[01:05] <Myrtti> nini folks
[01:06] <Seeker`> nini
[01:07] <Seeker`> have a good flight
[01:07] <Seeker`> hope you enjoy your time in England
[01:37] <Flannel> Hi temppy, how can we help you?
[01:38] <temppy> the LVM and raid factoids are messed up
[01:38] <ryanakca> Could someone please revert or update the following factoid, aptitude says: ``aptitude: unrecognized option '--disable-columns'''... I've searched the manpage, nothing about it....
[01:38] <ryanakca> !clone
[01:38] <temppy> Im trying to offer a fix, its coming shortly
[01:39] <Pici> !raid
[01:40] <temppy> and also, !LVM should probably just be an alias to !raid
[01:40] <temppy> I remove the "raid is" and the "wto"
[01:40] <Pici> !lvm
[01:41] <temppy> the first link of LVM doesn't work
[01:42] <temppy> anyway, thats all of it.  Good luck, and thanks
[01:42] <Pici> The first link for !raid is software raid, why is the second one 'for software raid' see 'fakeraid'
[03:32] <root_____> why am i redirrected to  ##unavailable   when i join #ubuntu ?
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Let me check
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Were you in here earlier today
[03:34] <root_____> me ?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes.  My thinking is that logging in as root user is your problem.
[03:36] <root_____> Jack_Sparrow so root@* is redirrected ?
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Log off/out and switch to non root user and you should be fine
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> There are so many bans on root that I am thinking that is the problem you are having.  Surfing as root user is not a good idea
[03:37] <nalioth> root_____: don't log in as root
[03:37] <root_____> Jack_Sparrow root is not superuser on this box.  but yeah, ok.
[03:37] <root_____> nalioth   see above ^
[03:37] <root_____> thanks for the info.
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> nalioth, I didnt see a specific ban on his ip, root was the only thing I thought could be his issue
[03:39] <nalioth> that is indeed, the issue
[03:39] <nalioth> extra comma there
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> later
[04:00] <nickrud> now nick nazis ;)
[04:27] <Flannel> Weeeeeeeeee
[04:42] <|_ocke> can i get unbanned from ubuntu ot please? it's been more than like 2 weeks i think
[04:43] <tritium> nickrud: did you just upgrade to 180?
[04:43] <nickrud> tritium, yes
[04:43] <tritium> let me know how it goes...
[04:46] <nickrud> success
[04:46] <tritium> excellent
[04:46] <tritium> Notice any improvement?
[04:47] <nickrud> a totally non-scientific evaluation is, moving windows seems smoother
[04:47] <tritium> Cool.  Perception is everything, at least sometimes.
[04:48] <tritium> ;)
[04:49] <nickrud> something I'm going to watch is firefox switching between tabs, there's been a one, two second lag switching between huge pages
[04:50] <tritium> Perhaps I'll also upgrade.
[04:50] <tritium> nickrud: so, what do you suppose was the reason for no auto-upgrade on that package?
[04:51] <nickrud> not totally sure, but if someone had a working 177 and 180 broke something, there would be an uprising
[04:52] <tritium> true
[04:52] <nickrud> gah. keep reaching for a cigarette
[04:52] <nickrud> *I
[04:52]  * genii steals nickrud's smokes and slips him a coffee instead
[04:53] <nickrud> too late for coffee; but I'll get a root beer. Thanks for the suggestion genii
[04:53] <genii> :)
[04:53] <nickrud> and nibble on some gorp
[04:53] <Flannel> How does one nibble on gorp?
[04:54] <Flannel> I mean, unless you're a hamster or something...
[04:54] <nickrud> take a peanut, bite a bit. Take a raisin, bite a bit. Take a m&m, bite a bit. repeat. I'm getting heavy enough already
[04:54]  * tritium sips eggnog with a Jan. 6 expiration date
[04:57] <tritium> No, really, I'm OK.  Thanks for your concern!
[04:57]  * genii cancels the order of Pepto-Bismol
[04:57] <tritium> :)
[04:58]  * nickrud was anticipating, ghoulishly, any repercussions and is disappointed
[04:58] <tritium> haha
[05:14] <Flannel> |_ocke: Please don't idle here (I know, its a forward)
[05:15] <|_ocke> i'm trying to find out if i can get unbanned..
[05:15] <|_ocke> nobody has answered yet
[05:15] <|_ocke> it's been a copule weeks and i havent heard anything
[05:21] <genii> |_ocke: The op who banned you is not currently here to review the ban. Try again in perhaps 8 hours
[05:22] <Flannel> |_ocke: Do you understand why you were banned?
[05:47] <|_ocke> yeah i do
[05:47] <|_ocke> my conversation was inappropriate
[05:48] <|_ocke> it's just hard for me to get here 8 hours from now as i will be at work from then for another long time
[05:52] <Flannel> |_ocke: Right, inappropriate conversation, and inappropriate language, etc.
[05:53] <Flannel> This isn't the first time we've discussed this with you either; which compounds the issue a little.
[05:54] <Flannel> However, I'm willing to go to bat for you if you don't make me look like a fool down the road for having faith in your ability to better yourself.
[05:55] <Flannel> (And we're also getting to the point where further bans will be calendar pages at a time, which is something you really don't want to happen)
[06:07]  * nickrud is glad he only uses daily desk calendars
[06:20] <genii> Well, time to sleep.
[07:15] <nickrud> !staff | apparently no ops for #kubuntu, can you help out?
[07:15] <nickrud> !ops
[07:16] <Flannel> I has no #k
[07:17] <nickrud> nor I. Wonder if they set up the emergency access in there
[07:17] <Flannel> This is sort of rediculous
[07:18] <nickrud> !staff | yo!
[07:18] <nickrud> !ops | yo!
[07:24] <nickrud> Flannel, where is everyone?
[07:25] <Flannel> nickrud: No idea.
[07:25] <Flannel> Maybe the entire world except CA exploded.
[07:27] <nickrud> hm.
[07:27] <Myrtti> moin
[07:27] <Myrtti> sorry, don't have powers in K
[07:27] <Myrtti> do you want me to sms jussi01 or Tm_T?
[07:28] <nickrud> no, the problem has parted
[07:28]  * mneptok undulates
[07:28] <Myrtti> OMG TODAY TO UK
[07:28] <nickrud> Myrtti, did you ever get your laptop?
[07:28] <Myrtti> nickrud: just getting dressed and going to get it
[07:28] <mneptok> At the moment of the taking our excitement is the same. We are the standard dangers of the fanning of the flame. Desire the hot before it cools. Effect? Ashamed to look away. Our confusion is a cousin of the panic of the brain.
[07:29] <tritium> Myrtti: what are you getting?
[07:29] <mneptok> All the less-men riot as the one who takes the blame for the erection at the hanging and the tearing off of heads. Stand enlisted at the burning. All our murders look the same. We are the thought and the display. The explanation and the side effect.
[07:29] <Myrtti> Dell D630
[07:29] <tritium> Cool!
[07:30]  * nickrud has doubts about copy/pasters
[07:30] <Myrtti> sadly I have to return my kickass Dell optiplex 755 away in return
[07:31] <mneptok> nickrud: if you can find the lyrics for Shriekback's "Despite Dense Weed" so i can just paste, I KISS YOU
[07:35] <nickrud> heh. mneptok you've just guaranteed I'll _never_ find those lyrics ;)
[07:40] <elkbuntu> what where?
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> Lame.  Unnecessary highlight.
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> So, who wants to update my resume for me?
[07:45] <nickrud> how much?
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> uh, the joy of doing it?
[07:46] <nickrud> #ubuntu gets all my free labor :)
[07:46] <Myrtti> tonyyarusso: I can give you my latex sources for my cv :-D
[07:46] <Myrtti> tonyyarusso: though...
[07:46] <Myrtti> IT'S ALL IN PINK
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> Myrtti: I don't even need to make it good - I just have to update it to submit for getting internship school credit for work I've already been asked to do.
[07:47] <tritium> LaTeX rocks!
[07:47] <Flannel> tritium: Yes indeed!
[07:47] <Myrtti> tritium: I'd rather do something else for a living tbh. I'm getting fed up with it
[07:48] <tritium> Myrtti: nothing else can typeset mathematics as beautifully.
[07:48] <Myrtti> on related news
[07:48] <nickrud> I've fiddled with latex ... oh, tritium stole my line
[07:48] <tritium> sorry, nickrud
[07:48] <Myrtti> http://maemo.org/maemo_release_documentation/maemo4.1.x/ <-- updated just before Christmas
[07:48] <nickrud> tritium, not the first time, not the last. But I will get you
[07:49]  * tritium hides in fear
[07:50] <tritium> Myrtti: I can understand it being frustrating sometimes, but I still love it.
[07:50]  * nickrud goes off to consult nalioth on best methods
[07:50] <Myrtti> tritium: yup, I don't use openoffice anymore
[07:50] <Myrtti> emacs love ♥
[07:51] <tritium> Good for you!
[07:52] <Myrtti> there should be an IRC bot that does timed reminders
[07:53] <Myrtti> my todo tasklist on tonight gets longer and longer
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> I think supybot has a todo plugin.
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> Not sure how it works.
[07:53] <Myrtti> graah, I've misplaced my hairbrush again
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> aroo?
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> Apparently my lack of an RSVP to an event was taken as a "Yes, I'll be there!".  And so now they have me doing part of the ceremony.  Lovely.
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> And I _just_ got the work schedule all pretty too...
[07:55] <Myrtti> on related news
[07:55] <Myrtti> http://identi.ca/notice/1839584 <-- made me happy
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> castro??
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> fun
[07:56] <Myrtti> tonyyarusso: http://identi.ca/notice/1839520
[07:56] <Myrtti> that is so ubercute and hip
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Know what else is cute?  My new tiny camera.
[08:30] <bazhang> |_ocke, please dont idle here.
 dude just msg me if you are banned i'll help  <--- in #kubuntu (perhaps a reference to ban evading)
[08:39] <bazhang> lgk> but is it worth the 5 seconds to get around the ban? no :D
[08:41] <bazhang> |_ocke, there is no plan to lift your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic any time soon. Please dont idle here.
[08:42] <Myrtti> isn't he banned there?
[08:42] <Myrtti> holycow I mean
[08:43] <bazhang> he changed his ident and was allowed back in afaik
[08:43] <ikonia> Myrtti: he sent me a pm wih "fuck you" and logged out of freenode
[08:43] <bazhang> whoa
[08:44] <ikonia> clearly he logged back in
[08:44] <Flannel> Nice.
 ikonia: i can guarantee you one thing
 you and all the other ops
[08:44] <bazhang> sounds like a threat
[08:44] <ikonia> !staff | holycow making threats
[08:44] <bazhang> jinx
[08:44] <ikonia> I've just got a pm
[08:44] <ikonia> 08:44 <holycow> if i ever meet you or any of the ubuntu ops, you will not be happy to see me
[08:44] <ikonia> 08:44 <holycow> that is a guarantee
[08:44] <elkbuntu> christel, this is where you do stuff, and i hug you in return
[08:45] <ikonia> the pair of them are trying to troll
[08:45] <elkbuntu> one thing we can be sure of, he's easily ban/reroutable
[08:45] <ikonia> just cutting them out of the channels as it;s obvious their intention
[08:45] <bazhang> watch them hit all other #u channels now
[08:45] <elkbuntu> !staff
[08:46] <lgk> ysomad ikonia?
[08:46] <lgk> ysoserious lmao
[08:46] <Myrtti> :-|
[08:46] <bazhang> lgk, stop now
[08:46] <ikonia> anytime your ready
[08:47] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, he still ditching braincells?
[08:47] <Myrtti> nope
[08:48] <Myrtti> and - you've got to see this
[08:48]  * Myrtti takes her camera
[08:48] <ikonia> getting a nice ammount of abuse in pm
[08:48] <ikonia> maybe time to head of to the doctors early this morning
[08:48] <bazhang> dont wait ikonia
[08:48] <ikonia> can't go yet - got to wait for appointment
[08:48] <bazhang> especially if you have a fever
[08:49] <ikonia> I went yesterday
[08:49] <ikonia> got to go back today
[08:49] <ikonia> got just ove an hour though
[08:49] <elkbuntu> bazhang, copy/paste a stack to my pm if you want on the record
[08:49] <ikonia> over
[08:49] <elkbuntu> er, ikonia^^
[08:49] <bazhang> major mis-tab :)
[08:49] <ikonia> elkbuntu: couldn't care less, it's obvious his intention
[08:49] <ikonia> just "douchebag" stuff like that
[08:49] <ikonia> tedious
[08:50] <ikonia> eagles is dangerous in #kubuntu
[08:50] <elkbuntu> yeah
[08:50] <ikonia> he is advising people of nonsense
[08:50] <bazhang> still?
[08:51] <bazhang> the make apt-build of everything?
[08:51] <elkbuntu> you are permitted to get rid of eagles at whim
[08:51] <elkbuntu> he does nothing but cause problems
[08:51] <ikonia> telling people to copmile google earth from source ????
[08:51] <ikonia> I thought it was a binary only ?
[08:52] <elkbuntu> yeah, and if he had the slightest clue he'd know that
[08:52] <ikonia> join #kubuntu
[08:52] <ikonia> sorry
[08:58] <Myrtti> http://flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3201258768/ :-D
[08:59] <bazhang> nice! :)
[09:12] <Myrtti> öhmöm, my tummy starts to ache
[09:12] <Myrtti> I guess I'm getting really nervous
[09:20] <topyli> Myrtti: don't like fying?
[09:20] <Myrtti> I don't mind it that much, atleast I don't have to change planes or travel by train or anything to Helsinki nor do I need that in UK
[09:21] <Myrtti> but it's just the anticipation
[09:21] <Myrtti> I can coax myself into being more and more nervous
[09:39] <ikonia> Dr's time - laters
[09:45]  * elkbuntu cuddles Myrtti
[09:48] <Myrtti> whee, partitioning done
[09:49] <christel> elkbuntu: sorry for delay (i overslept today!) -- holycow is gone now
[09:49] <adalhelm> okay here.
[09:49] <bazhang> what the heck
[09:50] <adalhelm> howdy.
[09:50] <Myrtti> merh
[09:50] <elkbuntu> banned from where? you were just in #ubuntu. are you breaking freenode policy by evading the ban?
[09:50] <adalhelm> no.
[09:50] <adalhelm> banned from offtopic.
[09:50] <adalhelm> for discussing xorg with someone.
[09:50] <adalhelm> I've waited a few days, I'd like it to be removed.
[09:50] <elkbuntu> @bansearch adalhelm
[09:50]  * Myrtti doesn't like this at all
[09:50] <elkbuntu> @btlogin
[09:51] <adalhelm> if you don't believe me, check logs.
[09:51] <elkbuntu> i am.
[09:51] <adalhelm> I was discussing the issues with the level of abstraction separating xorg and the kernel
[09:51] <adalhelm> and it'd be better to do a more integrated system.
[09:51] <adalhelm> that being said, I'm on Linux so clearly I don't hate it :P
[09:52] <adalhelm> IIRC, I wasn't given a warning either.
[09:52] <topyli> hmm
[09:52] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, you were given several warnings
[09:53] <bazhang> yet your way of getting attention is not conventional
[09:53] <elkbuntu> including someone explicitly saying 'your_nick, stop' and a kick.
[09:53] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: I stand corrected.
[09:53] <elkbuntu> from several individual operators
[09:53] <adalhelm> either way, I don't understand what's wrong with discussing the modern Linux desktop on...#ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:53] <bazhang> oh him
[09:53] <adalhelm> but I'll heed the warnings in future regardless.
[09:54] <elkbuntu> you also called the finnish language evil
[09:54] <bazhang> adalhelm, you were trolling.
[09:54] <adalhelm> that was intended to be humorous, you can't be serious.
[09:54] <bazhang> no it was not funny.
[09:54] <elkbuntu> twice
[09:54] <adalhelm> you really think calling #insert_language evil is anything but hysterical? the language is notoriously difficult for english speakers.
[09:54] <topyli> true about the language, but trolling is not nice
[09:54] <adalhelm> if you don't believe me, google "finnish language difficult english speakers"
[09:55] <bazhang> and calling ops in #u to get this resolved adalhelm ??
[09:55] <adalhelm> topyli: okay but how was I trolling?
[09:55] <adalhelm> bazhang: I didn't know i wasn't supposed to use it, relax!
[09:55] <bazhang> adalhelm, no need for me to relax
[09:55] <Myrtti> adalhelm: yet you knew to come here
[09:55] <adalhelm> you told me to.
[09:55] <bazhang> adalhelm, I am relaxed.
[09:55] <adalhelm> someone said to go to #ubuntu-ops
[09:55] <adalhelm> and then I did.
[09:55] <elkbuntu> right, so how i'm reading this log is: you insulted the finnish language twice. you then insulted the british. then discussed which out of britain and france has hotter women (very insulting to women in the channel)......
[09:55] <bazhang> adalhelm, dont do that again in #ubuntu
[09:55] <elkbuntu> then insulted the polish
[09:55] <Myrtti> adalhelm: ok, I looked at the timestamps and got confused
[09:56] <adalhelm> bazhang: I've been notified several times since I did it, thank you.
[09:56] <elkbuntu> then discussed windows 7 beta
[09:56] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: insulted? lol.
[09:56] <bazhang> adalhelm, or you will two bans for trolling.
[09:57] <bazhang> adalhelm, was someone else operating your computer at the time?
[09:57] <adalhelm> bazhang: I don't think so, unless my roommate learned how to use linux out of nowhere.
[09:58] <adalhelm> bazhang: would you like me to say yes so that I can get unb&?
[09:58] <elkbuntu> then you launched into calling various projects trash
[09:58] <bazhang> adalhelm, no
[09:58] <topyli> adalhelm: looks like you don't think you've done anything wrong. should that be taken to mean you will continue behaving just like before if unbanned?
[09:58] <bazhang> adalhelm, just to make sure it was you who was trolling.
[09:58] <adalhelm> topyli: I've already said I'll heed warnings in future regardless of my own gauging of things.
[09:59] <adalhelm> if you guys consider raising discussion subjects in that manner to be trolling, then I won't engage in it. plain and simple. That said, it's just plain irksome to remain banned when I'm willing to cooperate.
[10:00] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, it's not the raising of discussions. it's how you did it, and how insulting you were when you did it
[10:00] <bazhang> adalhelm, why the hurry to get back in there
[10:00] <adalhelm> I'll take your points on the technological errata but humorous commentary on the languages is just baffling.
[10:00] <adalhelm> bazhang: I used to know people there. I want to see if they're around.
[10:00] <topyli> warnings in general don't mean "let's discuss the rules." they mean "you will be removed soon"
[10:00] <adalhelm> topyli: I'm now aware of this.
[10:00] <bazhang> adalhelm, likely they are not.
[10:01] <adalhelm> bazhang: that's nice, but I'd like to see for myself.
[10:01] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, i'm not really sure how lining up a heap of languages/cultures and shooting them down in an international channel is humorous.
[10:01] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: "shooting them down" isn't an accurate way to frame that.
[10:01] <elkbuntu> no, it's quite accurate.
[10:01] <bazhang> this seems like trolling now.
[10:02] <adalhelm> it's a funny commentary on how absurd polish consonants look to english speakers. for pete's sake.
[10:02] <adalhelm> I'm not trolling, I'm not being inflammatory, I'm explaining my side of it.
[10:02] <adalhelm> I can't think it'd hurt to explain to why you guys why I didn't think I was doing any harm.
[10:02] <bazhang> there is no other side to being rude and insulting adalhelm
[10:02] <adalhelm> The better you understand why I thought I was being harmless, the better you'll understand why I'm willing to play by the rules.
[10:02] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, insulting poles in a channel where there are poles isnt inflammatory? i think you fail to understand the meaning of the word.
[10:03] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: I wasn't insulting poles. I was commenting on the difficulty of the pronunciation of their langauge from the point of view of an english speaker
[10:03] <adalhelm> example: "mandarin is hard to learn"
[10:03] <adalhelm> you know why it's hard? English speakers aren't used to a tonal language.
[10:03] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, which is something insulting to poles.
[10:03] <adalhelm> similarly: "polish lettering is incomprehensible to english speakers"
[10:03] <adalhelm> I highly doubt the poles care if their language is difficult for english speakers.
[10:04] <adalhelm> or that they have any hurt feelings concerning the matter.
[10:04] <adalhelm> I spent some missionary time with a CMA church in Poland. They thought it was great that their consonantation was cryptic to us.
[10:05] <bazhang> adalhelm, so by your account, what you did was harmless, and folks are over-reacting?
[10:05] <adalhelm> if you want to try to nail me down for trolling, the stuff about language isn't the point to take.
[10:05] <adalhelm> if you want to nail me down for trolling, the technical matters are far closer to the mark.
[10:05] <adalhelm> that's more reasonably described as trolling.
[10:05] <adalhelm> the linguistic commentary isn't even close.
[10:05] <bazhang> adalhelm, you were nailed already.
[10:05] <bazhang> adalhelm, thus the ban.
[10:05] <adalhelm> well, I'd call that the banhammer, but yes. We're discussing getting me unbanned.
[10:06] <adalhelm> I'm going to save both parties a lot of time right now
[10:06] <bazhang> adalhelm, then please answer my question above.
[10:06] <adalhelm> are you going to unban me now that I understand what I did wrong, and am willing to play by the rules, or will you leave it up?
[10:06] <bazhang> adalhelm, so by your account, what you did was harmless, and folks are over-reacting?
[10:06] <adalhelm> that's not how I would characterize it
[10:06] <adalhelm> I'd say both parties were at fault.
[10:06] <bazhang> then  please do so.
[10:07] <adalhelm> the linguistic parts are just nitpicking.
[10:07] <adalhelm> the technical parts are legitimate complaints.
[10:07] <adalhelm> I didn't heed the warnings either, not realizing that I wasn't allowed to discuss such matters.
[10:07] <adalhelm> that being said, I've already agreed to be more adept at heeding ops in future.
[10:07] <bazhang> adalhelm, judging by the silence descended here, I would say you wont be unbanned.
[10:07] <adalhelm> then I'll go over your heads. Ta ta.
[10:08] <bazhang> !idle | adalhelm
[10:08] <elkbuntu> i really really hate that 'i thought no means yes' attitude
[10:08] <topyli> i think the big issue is ignoring the warnings
[10:08] <topyli> perhaps the rest will follow
[10:08] <elkbuntu> topyli, i agree
[10:08] <topyli> (if that's fixed)
[10:09] <bazhang> adalhelm, please dont idle here.
[10:09] <adalhelm> I already said I would heed future warnings.
[10:09] <adalhelm> topyli: ^^
[10:10] <topyli> i might be willing to lift the ban based on that, if supported
[10:10] <elkbuntu> i'm not convinced
[10:11] <adalhelm> and I admitted fault on other matters as well.
[10:11] <adalhelm> it's not the mere fact of willingness to heed future warnings that is relevant to what I am saying here
[10:11] <Myrtti> topyli: are you, by any chance, have had any contact with Vinterbound?
[10:11] <adalhelm> topyli: it's that I genuinely didn't think I was doing wrong.
[10:11] <Myrtti> or something
[10:12] <topyli> Myrtti: doesn't right a bell immediately
[10:12] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, i feel sorry for people you know real life who say 'stop' only to have you continue
[10:12] <Myrtti> just entered -offtopic
[10:12] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: I don't need your pity.
[10:12] <topyli> adalhelm: no, the other problem is you think your past conduct was okay
[10:12] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: and I'd certainly you rather not be so rude as to suggest that you feel it for me.
[10:12] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, i'm not pitying you.
[10:13] <adalhelm> topyli: I didn't say it was okay. I said it was intended innocently
[10:13] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, you mgiht want to read what i actually wrote
[10:13] <adalhelm> the fact/consequence of what I did was clearly not okay.
[10:13] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: I'm the only subject under discussion. That's the only thing taht could be gleaned from that.
[10:13] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, look between the words 'for' and 'who'
[10:14] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: You could speak ill in general of the mentally ill or deficient, but in the presence of someone you believe to be mentally ill or deficient, it's clear in that case what your intent is.
[10:15] <adalhelm> but that is besides the point.
[10:15] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, no, it's not.
[10:15] <ikonia> adalhelm: 1.) you where warned ignored it multiple times  - just serve out the ban, 2.) arguing and being petty in here makes you look very bad and not ready to enter the channel, so just walk away, serve out the ban and come back with a a better outlook
[10:15] <adalhelm> topyli: like I said, my intent was innocent, but I understand where my actions were at fault. That is compounded by my willingness to heed warnings here on out.
[10:15] <adalhelm> ikonia: how long is the ban?
[10:15] <ikonia> adalhelm: your digging a hole - your have explained your intentions
[10:16] <ikonia> adalhelm: ask the guy who set it - I assume it's until you can show you can behave (your attitude in here does not show that)
[10:16] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, after the threat to 'go above our head', several days now.
[10:16] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: thank you ;)
[10:16] <ikonia> adalhelm: just clam down - stop being argumentative, and come back in a few days
[10:16] <ikonia> adalhelm: I'm sure things can be worked out
[10:17] <elkbuntu> adalhelm, feel free to try though. it'll be as successful as trying to convince a police officer to force someone let you into their house.
[10:17] <adalhelm> elkbuntu: I'm not commenting on that.
[10:17] <adalhelm> ikonia: hokay. wait it out. Gotcha. Thanks for the advice. Cheers! :D
[10:17] <adalhelm> toodles everyone, you've been sweethearts.
[10:17] <ikonia> adalhelm: great, thanks
[10:18] <ikonia> right laters gusy
[10:18] <ikonia> guys
[10:18] <elkbuntu> that is... the creepiest farewell from a troll in quite some time
[10:18] <bazhang> yep
[10:20] <christel> haha
[10:20] <Myrtti> anyway
[10:20] <christel> elkbuntu: hows the elections going?
[10:20] <Myrtti> again, I don't know what to do with all my stalkers
[10:20] <Myrtti> now that the issue of ASUS-tek is done
[10:21] <bazhang> vinterbound is martiini ?
[10:21] <christel> Myrtti! <3
[10:22] <Myrtti> bazhang: nope
[10:22] <bazhang> wow
[10:22] <Myrtti> vinterbound is from egypt
[10:22] <Myrtti> martiini is from estonia
[10:22] <Myrtti> I just told VB to back off
[10:22] <bazhang> and he listened?
[10:22] <Myrtti> "moi. Listen, I don't know why you're so fascinated with me, but I'd rather keep the 'friendship' we have on #ubuntu-offtopic, if even there."
[10:22] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, in PM?
[10:22] <Myrtti> "ok" was the response
[10:23] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: yes. He has a habit of greeting me in pm almost every time he joins -ot
[10:23] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, ok, i'll explain the 'why'.
[10:23] <Myrtti> I've usually just ignored it, but I'm getting fed up
[10:23] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: because I'm finnish female.
[10:23] <elkbuntu> look down to your lap. see those two bumps in the way.
[10:23] <Myrtti> he has a thing for Finland.
[10:23] <bazhang> adalhelm reminds me of the fellow who was going to do an audit on this channel
[10:23] <topyli> so far his input on -ot consists of a single "for teh win!" today
[10:23] <bazhang> hehe
[10:24] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, not necessarily a bad thing in itself
[10:24] <Myrtti> nope, but I just really dislike the fact he has decided to take me as his ... whatever
[10:24] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, yep
[10:24] <Myrtti> [12:24] <Vinterbound> well, why you don't wanna be friends
[10:24] <Myrtti> [12:24] <Vinterbound> i only like you cause you're cool
[10:24] <Myrtti> [12:24] <Vinterbound> i will shut up now, sorry
[10:24]  * Myrtti rolls her eyes
[10:24] <elkbuntu> that's the stabbystabby bit
[10:24]  * elkbuntu hugs Myrtti
[10:24] <Myrtti> I WONDER WHY...
[10:25] <Myrtti> I'm the stalker magnet
[10:25] <bazhang> proxy?
[10:25] <bazhang> stalking horse?
[10:25] <bazhang> err wrong word choice
[10:25] <elkbuntu> maybe if you jiggle them enough, he'll be hypnotised enough to tell him to forget how to IRC.
[10:26] <Myrtti> vinterbound checks what I've listened to in last.fm every week
[10:26] <Myrtti> I don't really understand his fascination with me
[10:27] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, i understand it. i do not approve of it.
[10:27] <topyli> if it's a finland thing, there are big, ugly finns around which surely define the country better
[10:28] <Myrtti> topyli: it's llike ASUStek v.2
[10:28] <elkbuntu> topyli, she's cute, blonde, female and geeky. it's not finland he's obsessed with, it's her, and he tries to impress her by complimenting finland
[10:28] <topyli> elkbuntu: exactly
[10:29] <bazhang> it iz tiny
[10:29] <Myrtti> I'll dye my hair black and start listening to norwegian church burning heavy metal music if that riddens me of these people
[10:30] <elkbuntu> hehe
[10:30] <christel> Myrtti: then you'll attract the likes of spb instead!
[10:31] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, just tell him topyli is your sister, and you're actually siamese twins joined at the little toe.
[10:31] <elkbuntu> christel, is it can be get rid of the creepy hoomins tiem yet?
[10:32] <christel> mm shall i frighten them a bit?
[10:33] <Myrtti> from #elsewhere
[10:34] <Myrtti> "I managed to make my own boss suspicious when I just collapsed in laughter when the news broadcast was advertised with 'Kursk still on the bottom of the ocean, news anchors Leena and Urpo"
[10:34] <bazhang> wow
[10:34] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, hahaha
[10:34] <bazhang> not even a denial
[10:35] <bazhang> 'how did you know'
[10:38] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, when was the last PM from him?
[10:38] <Myrtti> 28 minutes ago
[10:38] <Myrtti> I have them all logged
[10:40] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/105499/
[10:42] <elkbuntu> and for the record: http://pastebin.ca/1309950
[10:42] <elkbuntu> christel, see above. yes, please scare.
[10:43] <christel> thank you! i will glance in a couple of minutes (i just need to convince our ircd devs to completely change the behaviour of stuff, again!)
[10:43] <bazhang> haha
[11:05]  * elkbuntu wonders if they can completely change the behaviour of people too
[11:06] <Flannel> electro-shock therapy can do anything*
[11:06] <Flannel> (* for some values of anything)
[12:06] <amuro> hello?  how come i cant join #ubuntu?
[12:08] <Myrtti> @bansearch amuro
[12:09]  * Myrtti pokes bazhang
[12:09] <amuro> how to share files between 2 ubuntu computers on the same network?
[12:12] <Myrtti> hold on please, this is not the support channel
[12:15] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, it's kelvin911
[12:15] <Myrtti> was checking whois first
[12:16] <Myrtti> of the ip
[12:16] <elkbuntu> he enjoys calling bazhang a bastard in cantonese
[12:17] <Tm_T> idiots...
[12:17]  * Tm_T hugggls Myrtti
[12:17] <Myrtti> he's also making support questions at -ot
[12:17] <Tm_T> Myrtti: btw if ANYONE here in Finland makes trouble, you know I can help on that
[12:17] <Myrtti> Tm_T: and you know I've scared them enough not to even try
[12:17] <elkbuntu> !codeofconduct
[12:18] <elkbuntu> !guidelines
[12:18] <Tm_T> Myrtti: (:)
[12:18] <elkbuntu> amuro, see those links. read them.
[12:19] <Tm_T> Myrtti: btw if in those olgs there is something you like me to look at, if nothing else then atleast in education, please send 'em over
[12:24] <elkbuntu> amuro, look here. read the links above
[17:12] <jpds> bazhang: ^
[17:13] <bazhang> jpds, thanks :)
[17:14] <topyli> @btlogin
[17:15] <topyli> fine then :(
[17:15] <bazhang>  [it_croud] (n=Whatever@athedsl-4395185.home.otenet.gr): itjohn  sken??
[17:17] <boredandblogging> Pici: have you looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSJaunty/Report/Community
[17:17] <Pici> boredandblogging: I actually was just reading it.
[17:17] <boredandblogging> surprised at the lack of IRC notes
[17:18] <Pici> boredandblogging: As was I.  Do you know if the rest of the videos were ever uploaded to videos.u.c?
[17:18]  * Pici checks
[17:18] <jpds> No, there's some missing.
[17:18] <Pici> jpds: As in we'll never see them?
[17:19] <stdin> topyli: we need to get you registered with the bot if you want bantracker access
[17:19] <jpds> Or... I dunno where they are.
[17:20] <boredandblogging> Pici: asking Ng in #canonical-sysadmin
[17:20] <topyli> stdin: not sure if i want it. do i? i ban a few people on -ot, i can keep up with them
[17:20] <topyli> at least in theory
[17:21] <Pici> topyli: Its useful to see whether someone is a repeat offender.
[17:22] <stdin> and to see why someone is banned when they say "HELP! I can't get into <channel>, WHY OH WHY?!!1"
[17:22] <topyli> i guess it's a system carved to perfection for this purpose, perhaps i should want access
[17:23] <boredandblogging> Pici jpds ok, hope he gets them done one of these days
[17:26] <stdin> topyli: '/msg ubottu register topyli <password>' the password can be anything, you'll probably never use it
[17:26] <stdin> ooh, I should make the bot listen first
[17:26] <stdin> @supybot.defaultIgnore False
[17:26] <stdin> @config supybot.defaultIgnore False
[17:27] <topyli> stdin: okay, now to conquer my fear of new technology!
[17:27] <tritium> @btlogin
[17:28] <stdin> all you need to know is @login, @btlogin and @bansearch, those are the core tools
[17:28] <tritium> hmm...
[17:28] <topyli> i think chanserv.py even has aliases
[17:28] <stdin> @config supybot.defaultIgnore True
[17:28] <ikonia> did anyone else get a dcc chat/ping from it_croud
[17:29] <Pici> No. I didn't.
[17:29] <ikonia> I think it's sken - hence why he's singled me out
[17:29] <stdin> topyli: it has some, but not the features the bot has
[17:29] <topyli> @login
[17:29] <topyli> woo!
[17:29] <stdin> try @btlogin
[17:29] <tritium> @btlogin
[17:29] <topyli> @btlogin
[17:30] <stdin> tritium: have you done @login?
[17:30] <tritium> stdin: I wasn't aware you had to.  At least, I never did before.
[17:30] <tritium> @login
[17:30] <tritium> @btlogin
[17:30] <tritium> stdin: thanks!
[17:30] <topyli> ooh. irc2.0
[17:30] <stdin> tritium: it lets the bot know who you are
[17:31] <stdin> seeing as you can't /msg ubottu identify
[17:31] <tritium> stdin: thanks, I've not kept up with the latest developments
[17:31] <stdin> we got ubottu to ignore everyone by default several months ago ;)
[17:33] <tritium> I use "latest" loosely ;)
[17:43]  * jussi01 waves in greeting
[17:43] <Pici> Hi!
[17:43] <Pici> Get the cast off yet?
[17:48] <jussi01> Pici: yep!! :D
[17:48] <Pici> jussi01: Yay
[17:52] <genii> He'll be scaling Everest again in no time
[17:52] <topyli> jussi01: are you walking?
[17:52] <jussi01> topyli: kinda...
[17:53] <topyli> weak of course. does it hurt?
[17:56] <jussi01> yeah, muscle hurts. also, its possible that Ill still need an operation on the ACL
[18:04] <bazhang> 312 mb of ram? will ubuntu intrepid even load?
[18:04] <Pici> Yes.
[18:04] <Pici> !requirements
[18:04] <genii> Yes
[18:05] <bazhang> but slowly right?
[18:05] <Pici> Yes.
[18:05] <bazhang> arcsighter is saying its slow
[18:05] <ikonia> probably his video card setup if it's visually slow
[18:05] <genii> I even have an old p2 400 here with 128Mb running 8.10  KDE        altho needed alt install cd as well it uses swap like mad
[18:06] <bazhang> ahh proving a negative
[18:06] <bazhang> and do it now or I will downgrade!
[18:07] <genii> I wonder what combination of ram he has that adds up to 312, it seems an unusual number. PErhaps he has bad ram
[18:07] <bazhang> that is an odd number
[18:08] <bazhang> and he says the thread is at ubuntuforums.org
[18:08] <bazhang> :/
[18:08] <genii> Perhaps he has a 256 and a 64 stick
[18:09] <ikonia> 8 meg on board video = 312
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Gotta run, just found our best friend has Palsy Need to go provide a shoulder for her..
[18:29] <genii> Hm. Two separate hostmasks from Italy that just do !list   then leave immediately. I wonder if trying to gather name lists or so
[18:29] <bazhang> heh
[18:30] <bazhang> you're kidding right
[18:30] <bazhang> everyone from .it does !list
[18:30] <tritium> They need to intend ircfs.  I need grep, etc. on IRC.
[18:30] <tritium> s/intend/invent
[18:30] <bazhang> haha
[18:30] <bazhang> I would never leave my computer then
[18:30] <tritium> :)
[18:32] <nickrud> bazhang, I thought that was already the case :)
[18:33] <bazhang> nickrud, you found your 'c'!
[18:33] <genii> bazhang: Strange with the !list thing. I guess they have some other irc client that maybe uses this syntax then
[18:33] <bazhang> didnt know who that nikrud character was
[18:33] <nickrud> bazhang, I do that just for you :)
[18:33] <bazhang> @bansearch nikrud
[18:33] <bazhang> :)
[18:33] <jpds> tritium: There is an IRC client which works in filesystem mode.
[18:33]  * nickrud needs access to lie in wait for bazhang
[18:34] <bazhang> genii, could well be; ljl had a funny riff on that some time back aping the .it users habits
[18:34] <jpds> tritium: Oh yes, "ii".
[18:35] <Pici> Generally !list is for irc channels that have xdcc bots that serve files. Not that I would ever know anything about that.
[18:35] <bazhang> :0
[18:38] <tritium> jpds: no kidding?
[18:38] <jpds> !info ii
[18:38] <tritium> jpds: thanks, I'll have to check that out!
[18:38] <bazhang> yikes!
[18:38] <genii> Cool
[18:39] <tritium> It consists of <= 500 lines of code.  Nice...
[18:49] <Pici> jpds: Are you suggesting sudo -s over sudo -i now?
[18:50] <jpds> Pici: Damn, forgot, I usually use -s cos it uses my neat shell conf.
[19:21] <ScottK> I was wondering if I could get some help with adding a factoid to the bot for #ubuntu-motu?
[19:21] <Pici> sure
[19:21]  * Pici looks
[19:23] <Pici> ScottK: You can suggest yourself see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots#Using%20Ubotu
[19:23] <Pici> i.e: !foo is <reply> bar
[19:23] <ScottK> I'll try.  Thaks.
[19:26] <genii> I wonder if there's some way to make gtk apps insist on gksu/gksudo and refuse to run under just regular sudo. This would save a lot of grief
[19:29] <topyli> or make sudo refuse to run x apps
[19:30] <topyli> is there something common to all x apps? do they request display :0 something?
[19:30] <genii> topyli: Not sure. Maybe there's somethig in the ELF eader which is unique
[19:30] <genii> bleh typos
[19:31] <Pici> !support-#ubuntu-devel
[19:31] <genii> Pici: Hehe, OK
[19:31] <Pici> genii: Actually I'm just showing ScottK
[19:31] <topyli> still :)
[19:32] <Pici> genii: I didn't read your comment
[19:32] <ScottK> Pici: Way too long to type
[19:32]  * ScottK has never seen a developer use that one.
[19:32] <Pici> ScottK: You just need to type !support in #ubuntu-devel
[19:32] <ScottK> Ah
[19:33] <ScottK> OK.  Well mine was probably a bit to snarky anyway.
[19:33]  * ScottK will remember that.
[19:33] <ScottK> Thanks.
[19:33] <topyli> genii: we need a factoid like !development-#ubuntu-ops
[19:33] <Pici> ScottK: Its also setup for -motu
[19:33] <ScottK> Thanks
[19:34] <genii> Hmm
[19:35] <ScottK> Pici: Is it set for #kubuntu-devel too?
[19:35] <Pici> !support-#kubuntu-devel is <alias> devsupport
[19:35] <Pici> ScottK: It is now.
[19:36] <ScottK> Thanks.
[19:44] <bazhang> sken^^ ?
[19:59] <bazhang> it_croud, how may we help you
[20:01] <it_croud> nothing i just was banned out or something from a user at #ubuntu-gr
[20:01] <it_croud> maybe he did'n like my attidude
[20:01] <Pici> it_croud: We do not handle bans from loco channels here.  Please join #ubuntu-irc instead.
[20:02] <bazhang> it_croud, for #ubuntu-gr issues, please /join #ubuntu-irc
[20:02] <bazhang> jinx
[20:02] <it_croud> i have already
[20:03] <it_croud> but there is no problem because is not permanent
[20:03] <bazhang> it_croud, okay
[20:03] <bazhang> it_croud, please dont idle here.
[20:03] <it_croud> bazhang, : can i ask a question here?
[20:04] <Flannel> it_croud: Not a support question
[20:04] <bazhang> it_croud, you were banned from #ubuntu as well
[20:04] <bazhang> it_croud, do you have an alternate nick?
[20:04] <bazhang> it_croud, such as eleos2?
[20:05] <Pici> or sken?
[20:05] <it_croud> bazhang, : i just use this from within the irc client it is not registered
[20:05] <Pici> bunson: How can we help you today?
[20:05] <it_croud> bazhang, : i think i can make another one nickname pretty easy
[20:06] <bazhang> it_croud, so you do have another nick (eleos2 , sken etc)
[20:06] <bunson> im double checkin to make sure the port change saved before i ask
[20:06] <Pici> bunson: Can you try running the test in the other channel again please?
[20:06] <it_croud> bazhang, : no i just can use another nick it does not needs registrations etc...
[20:07] <it_croud> bazhang, : i don't own any nickname
[20:07] <bunson> when i do the test me thing it says it cant and i should come ask in here for a manual testing
[20:07] <bazhang> it_croud, but you have gone by those nicknames before, correct?
[20:07] <Pici> bunson: Try it again :)
[20:07] <it_croud> bazhang, : NO
[20:07] <Pici> bunson: I changed something
[20:08] <bunson> oh ok ty
[20:08] <bazhang> it_croud, well to be unbanned from #ubuntu-gr you should ask in #ubuntu-irc
[20:08] <it_croud> bazhang, : i just have to know how that guy banned me so easily
[20:08] <Pici> it_croud: We do not control #ubuntu-gr here
[20:08] <bazhang> it_croud, if that is all, please part this channel as the operator who banned is not around and wont be back for a good while
[20:09] <bazhang> it_croud, you are referring to the #ubuntu ban correct?
[20:09] <it_croud> bazhang, : yes correct
[20:10] <it_croud> bazhang, : i just hit the button of the client 2-3 times to find how it works but it stacked , damn gtk for a while
[20:11] <bazhang> it_croud, I will let the operator know you were here, if you could return later to discuss please
[20:11] <it_croud> bazhang, : so for a while for some random user i dcc ping anf dcc get user info  at him by mistake
[20:12] <it_croud> bazhang, : whatever thanks , i will be here later. yes
[20:12] <bazhang> it_croud, please dont idle here.
[20:13] <it_croud> bazhang, : please explain me what idle here means exactly does it means to stay connected without doing anythong certain?
[20:13] <ikonia> 19:56 <it_croud> fuck you mother fucker
[20:13] <ikonia> 19:56 <it_croud> fuck you mother fucker
[20:13] <ikonia> 19:56 <it_croud> fuck you mother fucker
[20:13] <it_croud> bazhang, : english is not my native languange
[20:13] <ikonia> oops
[20:13] <Pici> How pleaseant.
[20:13] <bazhang> whoa
[20:13] <it_croud> ikonia, :
[20:14] <ikonia> only meant to paste once
[20:14] <bazhang> it_croud, that is not okay
[20:14] <Pici> it_croud: ikonia was the operator that you were waiting for.
[20:14] <ikonia> it_croud: you where ban forwarded here because you where randomly ctcp pinging me, and dcc chat requesting me and refusing to respond to PM
[20:15] <ikonia> I could see you active but you refused to respond in channel or in pm until we spoke earlier
[20:15] <ikonia> that is why you where forwarded here
[20:15] <ikonia> I've not removed the ban due to your above PM "fuck you" comments
[20:15] <it_croud> ikonia, : hmmm what to say now?
[20:15] <ikonia> nothing really
[20:15] <ikonia> I caught you telling me lies also
[20:15] <bazhang> it_croud, nothing to say. just depart.
[20:15] <it_croud> ikonia, : i only know that you are really overreacting
[20:15] <ikonia> you said you did it once, then you admited you did it multiple times
[20:16] <ikonia> oh - am I
[20:16] <it_croud> ikonia : are you a lwayer or something
[20:16] <Pici> !guidelines | it_croud
[20:16] <ikonia> I think you telling me lies and your swearing abuse towards me suggests I'm not overreacting
[20:16] <ikonia> the band forward here was just to clarify why you where sending ctcp requests to people and not responding to why
[20:16] <ikonia> ban forward sorry
[20:17] <ikonia> the reason it stayed after you explained yourself was because I caught you telling lies, and your swearing
[20:17] <it_croud> ubuttu:Thanks because i was speaking with some lawyer or somehow
[20:18] <it_croud> ubottu, : i will go to read the quidelines
[20:18] <ikonia> just to clarify you are not banned from #ubuntu-gr - you are still active in there
[20:18] <bazhang> it_croud, you wont be unbanned in #ubuntu . please /part the channel.
 nothing i just was banned out or something from a user at #ubuntu-gr
[20:19] <bazhang> so that was not true.
[20:19] <ikonia> it_croud:/ channel apologies for the slow reponse to your query
[20:19] <it_croud> ikonia: One last thing and i am leaving
[20:19] <ikonia> 19:57 <it_croud> you are a bastard
[20:19] <ikonia> 19:57 <it_croud> to HELL
[20:19] <ikonia> just to be clear - it wasn't just one word
[20:19] <ikonia> 19:58 it_croud<EMAIL_ADDRESS>requested CTCP PING from ikonia:<PHONE_NUMBER>836751
[20:20] <ikonia> then you ping me again after I've asked you not to
[20:20] <ikonia> just to %100 clear to the channel
[20:20] <it_croud> ikonia,: you are the kind of man that tries to find out things with papers,lawyers ,logsetc
[20:20] <bazhang> it_croud, no
[20:20] <it_croud> ikonia, : i hate this way of acting me
[20:20] <ikonia> it_croud: good bye, I won't discuss this futher at this time
[20:20] <it_croud> bazhang, : YES
[20:20] <bazhang> it_croud, you are in the wrong here, 100%
[20:20] <it_croud> bazhang, : wake up
[20:21] <it_croud> bazhang, : no i am not
[20:21] <bazhang> it_croud, please part now
[20:21] <topyli> it_croud: please just go now
[20:21] <ikonia> it_croud: please leave the channel and come back in a few days if you wish to re-join #ubuntu
[20:21] <it_croud> bazhang, : i was just "[playing with my new install of XCchat!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:21] <bazhang> it_croud, that is not believable at this point.
[20:21] <ikonia> yes, you explained that, and I expalined that was not a problem in the end
[20:22] <ikonia> I explained what got you the ban kept in place
[20:22] <it_croud> bazhang, maybe not believalble by you here now nut me there yes
[20:22] <ikonia> it_croud: please leave the channel and come back in a few days if you wish to re-join #ubuntu
[20:22] <bazhang> bye it_croud
[20:22] <it_croud> bazhang, : it is true that i have no experience in IRCes
[20:22] <ikonia> it_croud: read the guidelines ubottu gave you they will help
[20:23] <bazhang> !coc | it_croud
[20:23] <bazhang> and read that too it_croud
[20:23] <it_croud> bazhang, : i just testing my new XChat client
[20:23] <ikonia> it_croud: ok - we understand that
[20:23] <ikonia> I explained that at the time - I understand that, it's not in question
[20:23] <it_croud> bazhang, : very restrictive stuff
[20:23] <bazhang> it_croud, no its not
[20:24] <ikonia> ok - this is going no-where, it_croud I'm trying to help you and explain things to you, but if you chose to continue to ignore them we can go no futher
[20:24] <bazhang> it_croud, there is never a reason to curse at someone like you did
[20:25] <ikonia> it_croud: please leave the channel and come back in a few days if you wish to re-join #ubuntu
[20:25] <it_croud> bazhang, :  yes but i thought is just "IRC fun" and i tested my new app
[20:25] <bazhang> it_croud, 'fun' NEVER involves swearing like you did.
[20:25] <it_croud> bazhang,: i have not  joined IRC channels since 2003
[20:25] <bazhang> it_croud, so please part now.
[20:26] <it_croud> bazhang, : how could i know so well
[20:26] <it_croud> bazhang, : i only entered second time in my life in ubuntu !!
[20:26] <stdin> swearing at someone was no more acceptable in 2003 than it is now
[20:26] <bazhang> read the guidelines and the code of conduct it_croud
[20:27] <bazhang> it_croud, understand them, then come back here.
[20:27] <Pici> I think we've taken this discussion as far as it should go today. it_croud Please review the documentation that you have been provided and then return in a day or two if you still wish to be unbanned.
[20:27] <bazhang> it_croud, arguing about it will only make the situation worse for you.
[20:27] <it_croud> bazhang, : why am i in any kind of court without my knowledge?
[20:28] <it_croud> bazhang, : i WILL read them ok don't worry
[20:29] <it_croud> bazhang, : just don't ban people so easily because of some pings or some dcc requests
[20:29] <it_croud> bazhang, : just don't ban people so easily because of some pings or some dcc requests
[20:29] <it_croud> bazhang, : just don't ban people so easily because of some pings or some dcc requests
[20:29] <it_croud> bazhang, : just don't ban people so easily because of some pings or some dcc requests
[20:29] <it_croud> bazhang, : just don't ban people so easily because of some pings or some dcc requests
[20:29] <it_croud> bazhang, : just don't ban people so easily because of some pings or some dcc requests
[20:29] <topyli> it_croud: wasting too much operator time here is not good. pointless arguments here can only make it longer. please part the channel
[20:29] <it_croud> BYE
[20:29] <bazhang> what the heck
[20:29] <bazhang> :/
[20:30] <bazhang> I suspect that he is working together with eleos2/sken/etc
[20:31] <ikonia> I thought that at first as it turns out he was only hittng me, but I don't think that now
[20:31] <topyli> successfully grabbed 30min of op time here
[20:31] <Pici> Yes.
[20:34] <nalioth> airlock all of them  :p
[20:40] <ikonia> he's ranting about it in #ubuntu-gr
[20:40] <bazhang> he said he was banned there
[20:40] <jussi01> and hes in -irc
[20:41] <bazhang> so sken does have a cousin after all
[20:41] <ikonia> bazhang: he's not
[20:41] <bazhang> err roommate
[20:41] <ikonia> nah, I don't think this is a "sken" thing just a silly chap
[20:42] <jussi01> ikonia: got a moment for pm?
[20:42] <ikonia> already there
[21:03] <CaptainMorgan> anyone want to take a look at #ubuntu ? Xae8koo isn't very nice and called not just me, but the rest of "lying ****s" when trying to assist him/her
[21:04] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: got it - dont worry
[21:04] <ikonia> thanks though
[21:04] <CaptainMorgan> thank you
[21:09] <jussi01> CaptainMorgan: anything else you need?
[21:10] <CaptainMorgan> jussi01, nope, why? should I leave?
[21:10] <jussi01> !idle | CaptainMorgan
[21:10] <CaptainMorgan> was just keeping the window open.. with no real reason other than convenience
[21:10] <CaptainMorgan> ah, Ic
[21:10] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[21:11] <bazhang> * [Xae8koo] (n=debian@unaffiliated/energy): debian User
[21:11] <Seeker`> bazhang: ?
[21:11] <ikonia> I remember him actually
[21:12] <ikonia> he's been in before
[21:12] <tritium> Oh yeah?
[21:12] <bazhang> really
[21:12] <tritium> Is he a repeat troll?
[21:13] <ikonia> yes, ages ago, he had asked a question in debian but not answered the question so got booted, then he came in here
[21:13] <bazhang> recividist
[21:13] <ikonia> ?
[21:13] <bazhang> repeat offender
[21:13] <ikonia> ah
[21:14] <ikonia> don't know him
[21:14] <tritium> He's probably not even on ubuntu.  I suspect he's running debian.
[21:14] <ikonia> he's not
[21:14] <ikonia> as I recall it's debian
[21:14] <tritium> That's my guess, based on /wii Xae8koo
[21:15] <ikonia> no dig deal, his hardware is neither ubuntu or debians issue
[21:16] <jussi01> ikonia: pm for a sec?
[21:18] <CaptainMorgan> what a fine start to a day... only trying to help and I get attacked... Xae8koo not only had channel issues, but had private issues with me too
[21:18] <tritium> CaptainMorgan: what did he say?>
[21:18] <CaptainMorgan> can I post it here? it's about ten lines..
[21:18] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: pastebin is easier
[21:19] <CaptainMorgan> http://pastebin.com/m1c9456e7
[21:20] <CaptainMorgan> not much, but I don't need it... nickrud you here? I tried /ignore but can you provide me the syntax?
[21:20] <CaptainMorgan> the channel spit it back but I'm still unclear...
[21:20] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan, /ignore nick should do the trick
[21:21] <CaptainMorgan> nickrud, doing simply that... returns "Usage: IGNORE <mask> <types..> <options..> .... etc as if I did it wrong... no?
[21:21] <tritium> I think I'll remove him.
[21:21] <Flannel> If you don't, I will
[21:21] <CaptainMorgan> thank you tritium
[21:21] <tritium> Sure, CaptainMorgan
[21:22] <tritium> I kicked.  :P
[22:06] <ikonia> Seeker`: I'll deal with the UK version for a few days
[22:06] <ikonia> emulators just aren't the same without the snes pad
[22:07] <ikonia> the sned pad is the best gaming pad ever
[22:28] <nickrud> gamers. sheesh.
[22:31] <Seeker`> nickrud. sheesh.
[22:31] <nickrud> Seeker`, shush ;)
[22:36] <Seeker`> you misspelled sheesh
[22:41] <nickrud> Seeker`, may be a us-ism, sheesh spelt like that is from Stan Lee of Marvel Comics. A powerful childhood memory :)
[22:41] <Seeker`> nickrud: I meant you typed "shush" instead of "sheesh"
[22:42] <nickrud> oh. gosh, I am dense today
[22:43] <nalioth> Seeker`: shush
[22:43] <Seeker`> nalioth: you too
[22:43] <nalioth> it's impolite to correct your elders
[22:43] <nalioth> 'shush' means 'shut yo mouf, chile!'
[22:44] <nickspoon> What do you have against Chile?
[23:31] <nickrud> aww, Jack_Sparrow
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> 5 minute time out for the kiddie
[23:31] <nickrud> :)


[00:00] <budder> my lubuntu installation failed so i am attempting xubuntu. anyway i can still try out the lxde?
[00:01] <knome> why did the installation fail?
[00:01] <knome> xubuntu and lubuntu use the same core, so it's possible that the xubuntu installation will fail as well
[00:01] <budder> after installation it just said installer has crashed
[00:02] <budder> i'm a first time linux user. i installed ubuntu but found it a little too heavy for my system so now i am attempting these flavors
[00:03] <budder> have to restart
[00:12] <budder> knome: i'm back
[00:12] <budder> it worked
[00:12] <budder> :)
[00:13] <knome> happy to hear
[00:13] <budder> BUT... i think i liked the lxde better :/
[00:14] <knome> you can install the lubuntu desktop experience by running 'sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop' in terminal (note that this does NOT remove the xubuntu-specific packages), then select lxde on login screen
[00:15] <budder> is there a write-up or tutorial on that somewhere?
[00:15] <knome> on what?
[00:16] <budder> installing the lxde
[00:16] <knome> i just told you how to do it
[00:16] <budder> and UNinstalling the xfce
[00:16] <budder> i know but i am new and want to learn what exactly that command does and how it does it. i just want to get a better understanding of everything
[00:17] <knome> the command installs the lubuntu-desktop metapackage and all of its dependencies - namely, lubuntu
[00:18] <bazhang> !metapackage | budder
[00:18] <bazhang> budder, please have a read of the ubuntu wiki, the ubuntu help pages, and the ubuntu manual
[00:18] <bazhang> !manual | budder
[00:19] <bazhang> !rute | budder
[00:20] <budder> bazhang: thank you. believe it or not, i have spent many hours on this recently
[00:20] <budder> reading through the documentation and help forums and wiki
[00:20] <bazhang> budder, there are many links to read and investigate there
[00:21] <budder> you know how in ubuntu you hold super and brings up the shortcut keys? is there an equivalent for xubuntu?
[00:21] <knome> not at the moment
[00:21] <bazhang> budder, 'how things work' is so broad as to be unanswerable on irc
[00:23] <budder> anybody have experience with the cursor jumping?
[00:23] <budder> i am typing and the cursos just jumps around on its own
[00:25] <budder> thnx for the help all
[02:35] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[02:35] <CountryfiedLinux> I notice the window decoration in Software looks a bit off.
[02:35] <CountryfiedLinux> Looks more like I'm using Adwaita in Gnome.
[07:15] <pirx> hi! whats the easiest way to make xfce show which workspace i am on?
[16:54] <JohanAR> I'm having problems booting Xubuntu 16.10 live usb. It shows some kind of icon at the bottom of the screen for a couple of seconds, then it changes to blinking cursor in top left corner and eventually the monitor turns off
[16:55] <JohanAR> Any ideas? I'm currently running 16.04
[16:56] <JohanAR> I've tried both mkusb and usb-creator-gtk btw.. If I mount the USB it looks like the regular stuff found an a Linux ISO
[17:07] <krytarik> !md5sum | JohanAR
[17:09] <JohanAR> checksum is ok.. but I just noticed that gparted claims the USB stick is 60GB, while it's actually only 16
[17:09] <JohanAR> going to try formatting and using unetbootin
[17:28] <JohanAR> Well, no luck.. This time I got grub when booting from USB, but regardless of which option I chose the monitor just shuts down after a few seconds
[17:33] <JohanAR> Anyone successfully booted Xubuntu 16.10 off USB? If so, which method did you use to put the ISO on the USB?
[17:34] <flocculant> JohanAR: the ridiculous size shown is a bug - can't remember offhand number - you could try changing the boot option to not use quiet splash, that might help narrow down where it hangs - at the human/kbd symbol press any key - then at the next menu F6 - then escape and you will have the cursor on the boot options - backspace and lose quiet splash - then choose try xubuntu (it looks like http://i.imgur.
[17:34] <flocculant> com/5BjhRS2.png )
[17:36] <JohanAR> didn't get that far.. nothing after human/kbd screen.. I have a GTX 970 which I think ought to work without fancy drivers
[17:38] <JohanAR> think I'll take a break from that and try again this weekend when I have more time
[17:39] <krytarik> !nomodeset | JohanAR
[17:41] <flocculant> krytarik: looks like gtx970 wants 375.26 but packages.u.c only shows to 367
[17:41] <flocculant> JohanAR: ^^
[17:42] <genii> !info nvidia-current
[17:44] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:44] <flocculant> So I would suspect boot with nomodeset - install, reboot - add ppa - get driver
[18:11] <JohanAR> ok, thanks
[21:01] <xavier11> alguien que me pueda ayudar
[21:01] <xavier11> ayudaaaa
[21:02] <krytarik> !es | xavier11
[21:02] <xavier11> ok
[21:04] <xavier11> amigo y tu no me puedes ayudar?