[08:49] <coz_> rav014,  and its not difficult to work with however it is not a live cd
[08:50] <KE1HA> ciphersson, have you tried it with PlayOnLinux ?
[08:50] <trollboy> is it possible to do wildcards in linux hostfile?
[08:50] <livingdaylight> hi! if I've installed sun-java do I need to remove open-java to ensure sun-java is utilized henceforth?
[08:50] <ciphersson> yep
[08:50] <coz_> rav014,  the advantage of the minimal is that it download what it needs from the internet and it is always up to date after the install
[08:50] <ciphersson> <64 bit 10.04 lts on i7  gtx 260
[08:50] <rav014> i think kde is much better than gnome
[08:51] <rav014> in terms of desktop
[08:51] <rav014> nice graphic
[08:51] <coz_> rav014,  well I disagree but thats my personal opinion but I do believe the kde netbook is much nicer :)
[08:51] <ciphersson> ty
[08:51] <rav014> coz, i try kubuntu
[08:52] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, If you still there, I've not found this PPA yet, but stil hunting fer it.
[08:53] <coz_> rav014,   ok if you try it with the minimal install cd    when you bet the "boot" prompt   ...just hit enter
[08:53] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Yeah, I'm still here - thanks a lot!
[08:54] <KE1HA> the CLI only server install rocks! .. fast and no fluff added at all.
[08:55] <KE1HA> Of course, not desktop / GUI .. but once you get used to CLI, it's a breeze to admin.
[08:56] <quietone> I can't get ocr to work and my son needs it now. tesseract errors is "check_legal_image_size:Error:Only 1,2,4,5,6,8 bpp are supported:16" which means nothing to me. anything else I can try?
[08:56] <er0th> quit
[08:56] <Kartagis> !lamp
[08:56] <bmoses> Any alternatives to Unetbootin? That are worth it, feature-wise?
[08:57] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: Did you ever get your answer?
[08:57] <livingdaylight> therealpsychx,
[08:58] <livingdaylight> therealpsychx, no
[08:58] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: I'm looking, because I am wondering the same thing.
[08:58] <livingdaylight> therealpsychx, do you know whether ubuntu automatically chooses sun-java over open-java if they are installed side by side?
[08:58] <livingdaylight> i see
[08:59] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: I'm not sure
[08:59] <KE1HA> quietone, not an exper on OCR  but here'a How-To: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR
[08:59] <livingdaylight> hi popey
[09:00] <livingdaylight> popey, do you know whether ubuntu automatically chooses sun-java over open-java if they are installed side by side?
[09:02] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: I just uninstalled my openjava. openjdk in synaptic
[09:02] <mikeru> hey, anyone know of a DCC fileserver for Xchat?
[09:02] <livingdaylight> therealpsychx, I'm the opposite, I@m removing my openjdk
[09:03] <therealpsychx> livingdaylight: Yeah, that's what I removed. Now I only have Sun-Java.
[09:03] <KE1HA> mikeru, http://www.socosoftware.com/FS.html
[09:05] <cipherz> hello, I recently upgraded the kernel of my ubuntu 10.04 lts, and booted for the first time with it this morning. Now when I boot I just see a cursor and nothing else. Tried booting a live cd and re-running grub without luck also disabled quiet and splash and ensured that timeout was long enough to make it possible to see grub .. nothing
[09:05] <cipherz> i realized that apparantly grub cannot do embedding, and it should be noted that grub is installed in an extended partition, because of the partition scheme that lenovo t400 provides
[09:07] <Guest41778> Ubuntu
[09:07] <Naznaz> hi
[09:08] <Guest41778> hi
[09:08] <m3lvin> Hi, I'm looking for a good cli web browser, I've tried lynx and elinks, anyone have any recomendations? I would prefer to have VIM style motions
[09:08] <pradeep> Naznaz, hi
[09:08] <Naznaz> i got a strange problem with my internet connection on lucid, can anyone help me?
[09:08] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Um...I don't suppose you can be slightly more descriptive?
[09:08] <pradeep> Guest4113, hi
[09:09] <tensorpudding> how does one get flash on amd64 now that adobe pulled the plug on the 64-bit version of 10.0?
[09:09] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, what do you want to know ?
[09:10] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Describe, in order, what exactly happened; what changed from the time it was working properly, how your disk layout is - simple things.
[09:10] <hego> are questions about maverick allowed here, or is there a separate channel?
[09:10] <chris_osx> tensorpudding: i have flash on ubuntu 64 bit 19
[09:10] <chris_osx> 10
[09:10] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, gimme a sec writing up the story + partition scheme in a pastebin
[09:11] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Roger
[09:11] <tensorpudding> chris_osx: the stories that i'm hearing is that it got pulled and you can't use it anymore.
[09:12] <chris_osx> tensorpudding: where did you read that?
[09:12] <tsdh> Hi. I want to install a PPA from launchpad, but I'm missing the add-apt-repository command.  Where do I get that from?
[09:12] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Are you typing: sudo add-apt-respository blah blah blah?
[09:12] <spartan07> thanks for all your help calling it a night and working on the multiple video cards tom.
[09:13] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: yes
[09:13] <hego> @ tsdh: you can add the ppa to software sources
[09:13] <spartan07> KE1HA, thank you for your time.
[09:14] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, The general command would be: sudo add-apt-repository (insert PPA here) => check that you're typing it correctly...
[09:14] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Jwe7X0Uf - sorry the partition table is not fdisk -l but I am in windows right now
[09:14] <cipherz> thought about re-running easybcd ( see pastebin)
[09:14] <cipherz> and thanks in advance for helping me :)
[09:15] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Yes, I type exactly that.  Maybe my server runs a too old ubuntu version.  I already did "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade".  How do I know the version I'm running?
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, I believe in this situation you're going to have to do the "Windows Boot Recovery" prior to doing the grub2 stuff...
[09:16] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, ''windows boot recovery'', just to make sure I understand you, ''re-run generation of windows boot menu'' ?
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Um... cat /etc/issue => will tell you the version
[09:17] <tensorpudding> chris_osx: sorry, my irc client crashed
[09:17] <tensorpudding> they pulled the linux 64-bit flash from their website, and the partner channel on the software channel doesn't stock it anymore
[09:17] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, When booting with the Win7 disk, you can do a recovery => I personally use a "Vista Recovery Disk" that I downloaded for assistance with that kinda crap...
[09:18] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, ahh I cannot do that :) if I do that my lenovo mbr is trashed..
[09:18] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, As well, once I'm done, I boot a liveCD, then mount/chroot the partitions, THEN re-run grub
[09:18] <cipherz> and windows 7 boots just fine :) and yeah thats what I did ;) followed instructions just had to add --force
[09:18] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Well, then you can try what I just said - boot to a liveCD, chroot, then re-run grub2 matey
[09:19] <tensorpudding> there has to be a 64-bit libflashplayer.so lying around somewhere...
[09:19] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Ok, it is "Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS".  All the PPA howtos are for Karmic or later.  How do I upgrade to a newer version? (I always thought dist-upgrade would do that...)
[09:19] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, I did that already :) doesnt help :/
[09:20] <randy_> tsdh: dist-upgrade just does an upgrade of kernel and stuff like that
[09:20] <randy_> tsdh: misleading, i know...
[09:20] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, purge, update, then dist-upgrade...
[09:21] <randy_> has 8.04 -> 10.04 even been tested?  that has got to wreak some serious havoc on a system ...
[09:22] <SwedeMike> randy_: er, yes, it's been heavily tested. LTS->LTS is definitely a supported upgrade path.
[09:22] <tensorpudding> the only supported upgrade paths are adjacent releases and LTS to LTS upgrades, aren't they?
[09:22] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Have you double-checked your /etc/default/grub and also your /etc/grub.d configs?
[09:22] <SwedeMike> tensorpudding: yes.
[09:22] <jasonwryan> randy_: worked like a charm on my mother-in-laws machine :)
[09:23] <tsdh> randy, YankDownUnder
[09:23] <randy_> jasonwryan: yeah... i make too many odd changes for a normal upgrade.  i always run into issues.
[09:23] <tsdh> randy, YankDownUnder: I guess I also have to fiddle in the sources.list.d/?
[09:23] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, ya might wanna double check yer sources to make SURE they're pointing to the right places...
[09:24] <jasonwryan> randy_: Hers is a pretty vanilla box: I keep it simple for her...
[09:24] <Lyannie> uii
[09:24] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, have to admit I havent browsed through /etc/grub.d but I have been through /etc/default/grub (mainly to disable splash,quiet and make sure i had a timeout) but did look it over
[09:25] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, gonna try and boot with my easybcd changes, if nothing else I'll be online from the livecd and able to do a better detailed description
[09:25] <cipherz> brb
[09:25] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, When you initially set this up - since you don't want to touch the Lenovo MBR, did you set it up to boot into linux through the Windows boot mangler, or through grub?
[09:26] <Naznaz> I hope somebody can help me so i'll outline my problem in short :)
[09:26] <tsdh> YankDownUnder, randy: Here are some good instructions: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[09:26] <therealpsychx> How should I go about mounting a .daa file?
[09:26] <Naznaz> I'm on WLAN at an 16 Mbit connection, and apt download speed is very good about ~1,8 Mb/s
[09:26] <tsdh> Thanks!
[09:27] <Naznaz> But browsing is insanely slow (Firefox and Opera), sites do either load very slowly or i just get an error
[09:27] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, In all reality, mate, I don't do upgrades. In the past, um, 18 years, I've done THREE. All went south. So I don't. I do clean installations. Workstations, servers, whatever.
[09:27] <Naznaz> also tracepath www.google.de aborts after the server of the ISP
[09:27] <ttmrichter> What's the trick to get GCC working on Ubuntu/Lucid 64-bit?  When I install build-essential I get a gcc that can't compile because the back-end assembler doesn't recognize the 64-bit registers.
[09:27] <Naznaz> What can i do? :)
[09:27] <randy_> Naznaz: have you tried using a different DNS server?
[09:27] <Naznaz> no, how?
[09:27] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: do sites load slowly or is there a long wait before they start loading and then they load quickly?
[09:27] <LinuxPhreak> I just had some wierd power searge and my computers turned off. On my Ubuntu Server when it restarted I get an command line that says (initramfs) how do I fix the problem
[09:28] <Naznaz> long wait before loading starts (if loading starts)
[09:28] <Naznaz> and sometimes a very fast error
[09:28] <randy_> Naznaz: SwedeMike it feels like to me that DNS isn't resolving like its supposed to
[09:28] <YankDownUnder> therealpsychx, I convert them to an ISO then mount 'em.
[09:28] <Naznaz> (but only in opera)
[09:28] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Well, the server is only a virtual image, so I don't have a change to do a clean install on my own.
[09:28] <tsdh>
[09:28] <tsdh>
[09:28] <tsdh>
[09:28] <tsdh>
[09:28] <FloodBot4> tsdh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <therealpsychx> YankDownUnder: What do you use to convert them?
[09:29] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: then you most likely have a dns problem, use wireshark or alike to track what's going on on the wire, if a DNS request is timeouting for instance.
[09:29] <randy_> Naznaz: you can test your DNS real quick by using the dig command (or nslookup)
[09:29] <randy_> Naznaz: for example... $ dig google.com
[09:29] <YankDownUnder> therealpsychx, AcetoneISO mate
[09:29] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: might be ipv6 related, look for AAAA request and answer in the DNS traffic.
[09:29] <therealpsychx> YankDownUnder: Thanks!
[09:30] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, so I have been using grub-legacy from easybcd since my original 10.04 lts install.. and its been working.. but i decided to try, just for the fun of it, if their grub2 worked
[09:30] <Naznaz> but if it's a dns-problem, shouldn't the same problem appear on windows?
[09:30] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, and the grub-legacy didnt .. but grub2 did.. hmm
[09:30] <LinuxPhreak> anyone know how to fix BusyBox error on Ubuntu 10.04
[09:30] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: not it's not a pure dns problem most likely, but dns might be one part.
[09:30] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, Mate, I've been sticking to grub2 - or lilo (for some of my client's boxen)
[09:31] <randy_> Naznaz: i concur.  IF your DNS responses take a long time (they should be almost immediate via the dig command) then we know where to start looking
[09:31] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Change the settings to ignore IPv6, restart the connection, see if that helps.
[09:31] <Naznaz> okay, I'll post the output of  dig. one moment
[09:31] <randy_> Naznaz: thats not necessary
[09:32] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, well I didnt really choose anything in the install, and as far as I know grub2 is default in ubuntu.. but didnt know that earlier.. (so used easybcd's legacy support .. without problems until last kernel upgrade hmm something else besides the kernel must have been installed :) )
[09:32] <Naznaz> okay, it seems to be fast :)
[09:32] <Naznaz> I'll try disabling ipv6, brb
[09:32] <randy_> Naznaz: did you try a website name you don't normally go to??
[09:32] <guido_> ubuntu.it
[09:32] <randy_> Naznaz: its possible you received a cached response...
[09:32] <Naznaz> no
[09:32] <Naznaz> oh ok
[09:33] <Naznaz> a website i never went to takes somewhat longer but is still fast
[09:33] <YankDownUnder> cipherz, I'd use what is packaged - which is grub2 by default - using the easybcd is fine and dandy, but I'd say you're going to have more ease by re-installing grub2 from the liveCD - doing the re-mount and chroot prior
[09:33] <Naznaz> ipv6 is already set to ignore
[09:33] <randy_> Naznaz: what kind of internet connection do you have?
[09:33] <Naznaz> ADSL
[09:33] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Add in another DNS server that's not in your country - like <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:34] <Naznaz> also very fast response
[09:34] <cipherz> YankDownUnder, I think I am really poor at expressing myself, because when I read your replies it doesnt make sense according to what I have done.. sorry :) one last time: I tried what you just did, without luck, changed my windows boot menu options and voila.. dont know how it worked before as grub2 always have been default in ubuntu 10.04 .. but thanks a lot for your time and have a nice day :)
[09:34] <therealpsychx> YankDownUnder: Do you ever have problems converting files with acetoneiso?
[09:34] <guido_> come faccio ad andare su ubuntu.it? grazie
[09:34] <SwedeMike> !it | guido_
[09:35] <YankDownUnder> therealpsychx, Not unless they're corrupted...
[09:35] <therealpsychx> YankDownUnder: Oh, ok. It told me something about losing the first layer or something like that. I'm still trying it.
[09:35] <chris_osx> is there a free replacement for the flashplugin?
[09:35] <randy_> Naznaz: and you say windows computers work fine..  hmm...
[09:36] <Naznaz> yes, my gf's laptop running vista is just fine
[09:36] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: you mentioned opera, do the different browsers behave differently?
[09:36] <pradeep> Naznaz, go format it n put ubuntu then maybe vm vista
[09:36] <pradeep> lol
[09:36] <therealpsychx> If I want to mount something, do I just cp it to the media directory that i have? ie: /media/iso
[09:36] <SwedeMike> therealpsychx: cp doesn't mount anything.
[09:37] <randy_> Naznaz: and you run wireless.  its possible that you're losing a lot of packets (errors) over the radio link.
[09:37] <YankDownUnder> therealpsychx, You should be able to mount it from wherever it's at - no need to copy it anywhere...
[09:37] <Naznaz> SwedeMike: opera sometimes immediately throws an error, while firefox takes some seconds and then starts loading
[09:37] <therealpsychx> sudo mount -o loop filename ?
[09:37] <Naznaz> i dunno, I'm sitting right next to the router
[09:37] <randy_> Naznaz: have you tried a wired connection to see if the problem goes away?
[09:37] <Naznaz> nope
[09:37] <SwedeMike> Naznaz: again, my advice is to use wireshark and look at what's going on on the wire.
[09:37] <Naznaz> okay thanks
[09:37] <Naznaz> I'll try wired first
[09:37] <Naznaz> brb
[09:38] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, You can also change the MTU to 1500 instead of "automatic" - I find that helps heaps.
[09:38] <SwedeMike> why do people hate actually looking what's going on at the packet layer?
[09:38] <pradeep> Naznaz, what does wireshark   do
[09:38] <Naznaz> ?
[09:38] <spaceghost_> why are my user folders (e.g. /home/me/downloads) absent in file choosing prompts yet present in normal navigation?
[09:38] <randy_> SwedeMike: its not that.  we are all not OSI professionals working on the linklayer on a daily basis
[09:38] <pradeep> does anyone know an appon ubuntu for bandwith management on a network
[09:39] <randy_> SwedeMike: unless you know what to look for, its all gibberish
[09:39] <ttmrichter> What's the trick to get GCC working on Ubuntu/Lucid 64-bit?  When I install build-essential I get a gcc that can't compile because the back-end assembler doesn't recognize the 64-bit registers.  Here's the output on a freshly-installed Ubuntu 10.4 system with build-essential installed: http://ideone.com/G8WUZ
[09:39] <hrhrhr_> morning
[09:39] <randy_> pradeep: bandwidth management has historically been a sticky/difficult subject in the linux community primarily due to a lack of documentation
[09:39] <hrhrhr_> am i right in thinking .bash_profile is executed at login?
[09:39] <hrhrhr_> and .bashrc upon 'su/sudo' ?
[09:39] <SwedeMike> randy_: but if you do, it's an excellent tool in finding out what's going on. I work as an network engineer and "server people" seem to hate to have to look at what's actually going on.
[09:40] <randy_> pradeep: truly, Linux has extremely powerful QoS tools, but no one knows how to use them ;)
[09:40] <hrhrhr_> i have aliases which don't work after sudoing
[09:40] <YankDownUnder> hrhrhr_, For bash, yes. the ~.profile is for your environment stuff
[09:40] <pradeep> RaNdy_ hmmm i c
[09:40] <SwedeMike> randy_: and it's not that hard, spend 20-30 minutes reading up on DNS and TCP and you will have a lot of use for it.
[09:40] <hrhrhr_> YankDownUnder: .bash_profile or .profile? does it matter/
[09:40] <YankDownUnder> hrhrhr_, If you describe what you're trying to accomplish, that may help
[09:41] <pradeep> RaNdY_ so who wrote them
[09:41] <randy_> SwedeMike: i never said that I haven't done that.  I'm just suggesting that it may not be necessary for Naznaz to do that if its a Driver issue as opposed to a network issue
[09:42] <randy_> pradeep: a magical individual by the name of Alexey N. Kuznetsov did a lot of the work (and I assume he takes a lot of the credit) even though a countless number of people had a hand in it...
[09:42] <N4zroth> <- Naznaz
[09:42] <hrhrhr_> YankDownUnder: i have basic aliases such as c=clear in my .bash_profile
[09:42] <hrhrhr_> when i sudo
[09:42] <hrhrhr_> i lose these
[09:42] <N4zroth> still the same problem with wired connection
[09:42] <N4zroth> and
[09:42] <N4zroth> when i input google.com instead of www.google.com in opera i immediately get a network error
[09:42] <FloodBot4> N4zroth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <YankDownUnder> hrhrhr_, Well, then the question has just been answered.
[09:44] <randy_> pradeep: there have been *some* tools written to make bandwidth management easier/manageable, but none of them are gui based (at least not in Ubuntu that i know of)...
[09:44] <randy_> pradeep: i found in my experience, though, that they weren't very good/extensible
[09:45] <Naznaz> brb switching to wireless again
[09:45] <jgcampbell300> Is it possible to get virus on Ubuntu 10.04?
[09:45] <YankDownUnder> randy_, pradeep  => Squid can be used.
[09:45] <jason_wt> currently i have a user who can run root takes by typing in their password when prompted, but i like to prevent them from running root tasks unless i enter an admins account password
[09:45] <jason_wt> can this be done?
[09:45] <pradeep> jgcampbell300, nope
[09:45] <YankDownUnder> jgcampbell300, Um...is this a joke?
[09:45] <coz_> jgcampbell300,  it is possible but very unlikely
[09:45] <jgcampbell300> I did not think so, but I have been having some trouble that I can not explain:(
[09:46] <pradeep> RaNdY_ so wat do u suggest i do
[09:46] <randy_> YankDownUnder: thats a yes and no problem that only can solve a *part* of a larger issue.  the root solution is at the tc level
[09:46] <bullgard4> jgcampbell300: Theoretically yes. Practically: no.
[09:46] <YankDownUnder> IN THEORY, there are like, um, what, 13 viruses for unix/bsd/linux => however, they cannot survive in the "wild"
[09:46] <coz_> jgcampbell300,   linux is overseen by many groups that watch out for and report on possible threats... for the desktop linux it is unlikely to happen for at least 5 years
[09:46] <jgcampbell300> I have not changed anything but now avi files that played fine before do not work
[09:46] <coz_> jgcampbell300,  if you are really concerend you can go to the BlackHat  security conference site and read on what they have reported etc
[09:47] <pradeep> randy_ am a network admin in a teaching hospital so many peeps download alot of thing where draggin n taking up all the bandwith u get
[09:47] <randy_> pradeep: honestly, if you intent to run a server in a router capacity, i would suggest running something more intended for that, like vyatta or zeroshell (not to bash on ubuntu, but, server is not equal to router)
[09:47] <YankDownUnder> jgcampbell300, Simple steps to figure this out. 1.) From the last time you were able to view them, what has been installed/changed/upgraded? 2.) Are you doing exactly what you did before to play them? 3.) Are you using a particular program to view them, or are you viewing them in your web browser?
[09:48] <pradeep> randy_ i have a cisco router 1800 series
[09:48] <YankDownUnder> pradeep, Um...have you thought about setting quotas on the user accounts?
[09:49] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: As you've foreseen, the upgrade didn't work: http://pastebin.ca/1909945
[09:49] <randy_> YankDownUnder, pradeep, i don't think that solves the problem of bandwidth usage compared to downloaded/temporary/streaming media
[09:49] <tsdh> It seems I have to update the kernel package and reboot.  How do I do that?
[09:49] <jgcampbell300> I have been a lot of stuff trying to figgure this one out ... it seems random ... a file will play and then one day it will quit ... but not all the files quit playing at the same time ... seems to happen to a few files at a time ... i did notice that when i opend up the info on the playing file i was seeing mp3 insted of avi
[09:50] <ttmrichter> What's the trick to get GCC working on Ubuntu/Lucid 64-bit?  When I install build-essential I get a gcc that can't compile because the back-end assembler doesn't recognize the 64-bit registers.  Here's the output on a freshly-installed Ubuntu 10.4 system with build-essential installed: http://ideone.com/G8WUZ
[09:50] <jgcampbell300> is there a way to update all the codex packages ?
[09:50] <c_korn42> hello. I wanted to install lucid yesterday and tried the daily build (alterate amd64). after clicking "install ubuntu" I got the error: "uncompress error -- system halted" is this a known problem ? I could reproduce it on my notebook. I created a bootable usb stick from the iso using Ubuntu's creator
[09:50] <pradeep> YankDownUnder, randy_ so what do you suggest ? some one told me about mikrotik
[09:50] <jgcampbell300> maybe something happend to them
[09:50] <randy_> Naznaz: well, we've proven that you don't have a wireless issue, and your DNS seems to be fine, and IPv6 is out
[09:51] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Well, time to do a fresh install - unless you want to waste more time by upgrading to like 8.10, then to 9.04, then 9.10 and finally to 10.04...(I hate wasting time...yet another reason why I like doing fresh installations)
[09:51] <Naznaz> yes :(
[09:51] <randy_> pradeep: yeah, i've looked at mikrotik before, but its pricy for what you get.  its cheaper just to build a bigger ATX server with fancy (lit. big) gig ethernet ports on the cheap
[09:52] <MauL^> I've set up a public&private key for ssh authentication between 2 ubuntu, one is mustafa@server1 the other is root@server2 ... when I do ssh root@server2 , it still asks me for password .... why ??
[09:52] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: As I've said, I cannot do a fresh install because that's only a virtual server I don't have physical access to.
[09:52] <cipherz> MauL^, try running ssh -vv or something to see whats going on :)
[09:52] <YankDownUnder> jgcampbell300, Have you tried VLC to play them?
[09:52] <PureSine> hello I want to install an update to transmission but it seems it is available through ppa (https://edge.launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/nightly/+packages) is there a simple way to update like synaptic ?
[09:52] <minjoo> how to install gcc 3.x on ubuntu 10.04?
[09:52] <cipherz> MauL^, could easily be some permission problems on the key ;)
[09:52] <randy_> pradeep: there really is no difference between building something big except size and power.  the proc. in the microtik won't compare with what you get in a real mobo
[09:53] <Guest72611> hi. could somebody help me with external monitor config?
[09:53] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Dunno what to say mate...I have physical access to my servers...
[09:53] <jgcampbell300> yes ... I always use VLC
[09:53] <Guest72611> whatever I choose in config always get out of range
[09:53] <randy_> pradeep: in the end, you still end up with a 'how do i do it' 'what os do i use' type of problem
[09:53] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Good for you. ;-)
[09:53] <YankDownUnder> jgcampbell300, Well, then you're possibly having codec issues...
[09:53] <pradeep> randy_ what do you suggest  seems you are a network admin
[09:54] <jgcampbell300> is there a command or something to reset/reinstall all the codec ?
[09:54] <gogeta1> YankDownUnder: vlc is your frend
[09:54] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Be nice to be able to create a new VM and just copy stuff over to it...
[09:54] <YankDownUnder> Dunno if VLC is my frend, but it's certainly my media player of choice.
[09:54] <gogeta1> YankDownUnder: you can enable usb and copy stuff
[09:55] <gogeta1> YankDownUnder: no codec issues then
[09:55] <YankDownUnder> Enable USB and copy stuff? Um...I think something got lost in the translation...
[09:55] <Guest72611> PureSine: just add pa repository and install with synaptic
[09:55] <randy_> pradeep: well, if you want something that won't fry your brain after weeks of studying LARTC (Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control), let me suggest zeroshell, they have tutorials and can at least get you really close to something that would really work right without a lot of tweaking miserably in the command line, i.e. http://www.zeroshell.net/eng/qos/
[09:56] <mikeru> HELLO
[09:56] <Naznaz> I also wonder why apt is so insanely fast and my browsers aren't :/
[09:56] <PureSine> Guest72611, where should I add it in synaptic ?
[09:56] <randy_> Naznaz: yes, thats a good question.
[09:57] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Have you made sure you turned off proxy auto-configuration in your web browser?
[09:57] <gogeta1> YankDownUnder: vms support usb so you can copy things using a usb device or you can make a samba share
[09:57] <gogeta1> or ftp etc
[09:57] <Guest72611> puresine: you can add with system | administration | software sources
[09:57] <Guest72611> PureSine: or in synaptic wait a second....
[09:57] <Naznaz> YankDownUnder, yes it's turned off
[09:58] <randy_> YankDownUnder, Naznaz good call.  let me also suggest, just to narrow things down, downloading a file on the command line using wget to see if there is some sort of gnome proxy thing borking things up.  I also suspect it might be network-manager
[09:58] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, If everything else works fast (or appears to) - have you tried more than one browser?
[09:58] <Guest72611> PureSine: Settings | repositories
[09:58] <Naznaz> YankDownUnder, I tried Opera and Firefox
[09:59] <Naznaz> randy_, I'll try wget
[09:59] <Guest72611> PureSine: Second tab: Another software ; click add.. button
[10:00] <Guest72611> PureSine: argh... but don't know what to put in. Moment...
[10:00] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[10:00] <Naznaz> randy_, when i do wget http://blahblah , resolving the address takes ages but download is fast
[10:00] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: That's exactly the procedure I did.
[10:00] <Naznaz> when i repeat this, resolving still takes ages
[10:00] <Guest72611> PureSine: ppa:transmissionbt/nightly put this
[10:01] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, I'll assume you've followed this TO THE "T" yeah?
[10:01] <pradeep> randy_ is that guide how to configure zeroshell besides wud ubuntu work
[10:01] <pradeep> ?
[10:01] <ttmrichter> What's the trick to get GCC working on Ubuntu/Lucid 64-bit?  When I install build-essential I get a gcc that can't compile because the back-end assembler doesn't recognize the 64-bit registers.  Here's the output on a freshly-installed Ubuntu 10.4 system with build-essential installed: http://ideone.com/G8WUZ
[10:01] <Guest72611> PureSine: or instead of clickuing run Terminal and type in: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:transmissionbt/nightly
[10:02] <yudi1> i am trying to backup a cd with drivers on it, I want to make a image file. I am using brasero and it defaults to a *.toc image file. is it alright to use a toc image. or should I choose iso
[10:02] <YankDownUnder> yudi1, ISO image is best suited.
[10:02] <PureSine> Guest72611, you mean I don't have to type full http address of the package ?
[10:03] <Guest72611> PureSine: no
[10:03] <Guest72611> PureSine: you have to add repo adress
[10:04] <Guest72611> PureSine: synaptic will get packages index and all the stuff it needs to instal package
[10:04] <randy_> pradeep: ah, that link was specifically for Zeroshell, just as an example of what *it* can do.  of course, Ubuntu *can* do it.  tc (as part of iproute2 package) is an integral part of the linux kernel in every distribution.  most people will never need/touch/learn the tc command and it is so rarely employed that very little has been written about it.  rarely do people need to do what you want to do.  regardless, it is incredibly p
[10:04] <PureSine> where should I add repo address ? in synaptic where you gave the address before ?
[10:04] <ttmrichter> Or is Ubuntu not intended to work with amd64 architectures?
[10:05] <yudi1> yank..., ok but why is it defaulting to .toc, I backed up a dvd and it used iso.
[10:05] <SwedeMike> ttmrichter: amd64 is definitely supported, been running it for years myself.
[10:05] <randy_> pradeep: unlike vyatta/Zeroshell, though, there isn't a fancy interface for configuring bandwidth management in ubuntu
[10:05] <ttmrichter> SwedeMike: can you explain http://ideone.com/G8WUZ?
[10:05] <PureSine> Guest72611,  where should I add repo address ? in synaptic where you gave the address before ?
[10:05] <YankDownUnder> yudi1, Not sure
[10:05] <ttmrichter> GCC's back-end is choking on the extended amd64 registers.
[10:05] <SwedeMike> ttmrichter: nope, let me try that on my machine.
[10:06] <Guest72611> PureSine: yes. Synaptic | Settings | repositories in that window select second tab (another software), press add.. buton at the bottom and put this ppa:transmissionbt/nightly. Done
[10:06] <yudi1> yank, no prob, using iso. will stick to what I know. thanks
[10:06] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Well, I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades, section "Upgrade from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS", subsection "Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)".
[10:06] <uLinux> Does somebody know long how it takes to erase an harddrive using DBAN's quick erase method? like 600GB
[10:06] <SwedeMike> ttmrichter: that compiles just fine on my 10.04 amd64 machine.
[10:06] <randy_> pradeep: here's a link to some (rather simple) scripts available in the repositories for bandwidth shaping: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/use-bandwidth-shapers-wondershaper-or-trickle-to-limit-internet-connection-speed.html
[10:06] <PureSine> Guest72611,   thanks I try that :)
[10:06] <ttmrichter> SwedeMike: So how would I go about diagnosing this?  I've reinstalled everything I could find related to development and get the same problem.
[10:07] <quietone> KE1HA, thx. I have been using that and I can't get any of the options to work
[10:07] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Have you ever been to this server - where the VM lives?
[10:07] <pradeep> randy_ been of great help... are you network admin
[10:07] <piszczekd> Co tu mam pisac ?
[10:07] <SwedeMike> ttmrichter: sorry, I don't know how to debug that.
[10:07] <stu_> hm
[10:07] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: Nope.  I don't even know where that is.
[10:07] <piszczekd> Dawo
[10:07] <strange> my apt-get is stuck because some stuff i tried to install has unmet dependencies it keeps telling me to run apt-get -f install to fix it
[10:07] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <FloodBot4> piszczekd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <piszczekd> s
[10:08] <strange> but that puts me in a loop
[10:08] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Um...and you're trying to do an upgrade on this machine?
[10:08] <strange> anyone have any suggestions?
[10:08] <randy_> pradeep: i ran a few ISP's in my day in the hot sun surrounded by commercial internet satellites funded with community cash... running on a budget, paying out the ** for bandwidth, baking in the hot hot hot hot sun... (enough about that ;))
[10:08] <yudi1> when ever I join a channel or start pidgin I get quite a few tab pop up, like from nickserv, frigg, etc, how to suppress them
[10:09] <jasonwryan> strange: have you run it with the force flag?   But I do have good backups of my data, so I could perform a fresh install and later copy my data back.
[10:10] <jgcampbell300> wow I think something has eaten some of my avi files
[10:10] <tsdh> YankDownUnder: The provider has a reinstall option on the web frontend.
[10:10] <yudi1> yank...,will try
[10:10] <YankDownUnder> tsdh, Mate, I'm used to thinking in another perspective - using linux servers to run MS in VM's - not the other way around...
[10:10] <uLinux> Has anyone used dban?
[10:11] <YankDownUnder> uLinux, As an antiperspirant?
[10:11] <uLinux> lol
[10:11] <strange> jasonwryan, http://pastebin.com/7QteZ68t
[10:12] <Guest72611> sobeody help me with monitor issue?
[10:12] <strange> i need a way to remove those packages i think so it doesnt want to isntall them anymore
[10:12] <YankDownUnder> uLinux, I'd just assume to format the drive a heap of times with different FS's, then zero out the disk
[10:12] <strange>   libglew1.5-dev: Depends: libgl1-mesa-dev or
[10:12] <strange>                            libgl-dev
[10:12] <strange>   libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libgl1-mesa-dev or
[10:12] <strange>                              libgl-dev
[10:12] <FloodBot4> strange: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:12] <strange> those
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> strange, apt-get autoremove && apt-get -f install && apt-get update => eh?
[10:13] <strange> YankDownUnder, trying.
[10:13] <randy_> Naznaz: did you do this to disable IPv6? http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/speed-up-your-internet-connection-in-ubuntu-linux/
[10:14] <strange> YankDownUnder: nope that just does the same bitches about dependencies
[10:14] <aurquiel> hi
[10:14] <jasonwryan> strange: manually remove (or move) libGL.so and retry?
[10:14] <strange> http://pastebin.com/hSgfKKnD
[10:14] <strange> jasonwryan, can you tell me how to manually do that or link me ?
[10:15] <jasonwryan> strange: sudo mv /usr/lib/libGL.so{,bak}
[10:15] <Naznaz> randy_, no i just disabled it in the interface options, trying your link now, thx
[10:15] <strange> jasonwryan, same problem still.
[10:16] <randy_> Naznaz: no wait, this one http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html that link was too old
[10:16] <YankDownUnder> strange, Um...have you tried to manually select the libmesa stuff and remove them?
[10:17] <strange> YankDownUnder, i've tried "apt-get remove lib-mesa(or whatever its called)
[10:17] <strange> and purge i've tried as well
[10:17] <Naznaz> randy_, okay, thanks
[10:17] <YankDownUnder> strange, This is strange, strange. HOWEVER, there are answers...
[10:18] <strange> for some reason it looks like its in a queue of some sorts becuase if i want to run an aptitude thing unrelated to those it still wants those first, where is this queue stored
[10:18] <strange> answers i like :)
[10:18] <jasonwryan> strange: flush the dpkg cache?
[10:19] <strange> jasonwryan, how?
[10:19] <Naznaz> if the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases file does not exist, does simply creating it suffice?
[10:19] <randy_> YankDownUnder: strange whenever i see references to libmesa a chill races down my spine from days of old ... when graphics drivers were unreliable and skinny elephants occasionally trampled all over my keyboard...
[10:20] <strange> nvidia drivers are decent these days but i installed something to disrupt the balance :x
[10:20] <YankDownUnder> randy_, Those were the days when I did mostly everything in the console - or just ran OLVWM and didn't worry about graphic
[10:20] <jasonwryan> strange: apt-get clear
[10:20] <strange> jasonwryan, that command doesnt exist
[10:20] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, I think you can get away with that.
[10:21] <jasonwryan> strange: whoops: that was helpful...
[10:21] <YankDownUnder> apt-get purge
[10:21] <randy_> Naznaz: ok ok ok, here we go! guaranteed for 10.04: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[10:21] <strange> apt-get purge i'ved tried same error
[10:21] <Quadrescence> Hello everyone I am having problems with amd64's gcc -----> http://codepad.org/H9FocBgN
[10:22] <YankDownUnder> strange, apt-get autoclean && apt-get check && apt-get update => ??
[10:22] <Naznaz> thanks! :)
[10:22] <strange> YankDownUnder, including => ?
[10:22] <YankDownUnder> strange, Don't be strange! Nah! Hehehehhee
[10:22] <Quadrescence> Does anyone know a solution? I am just beginning Coding in C,
[10:22] <strange> YankDownUnder, same error.
[10:23] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, Yes - the solution is use B
[10:23] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: Excuse me?
[10:23] <YankDownUnder> strange, Have you, just for giggles and grins, rebooted this machine?
[10:23] <strange> nope but lets do :)
[10:23] <Naznaz> yey I think you got it right! Disabling ipv6 in ff speeds things up A LOT, just trying to disable it in ubuntu and rebooting, thanks, brb
[10:23] <strange> http://pastebin.com/vdiJViXb
[10:23] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, You didn't finish the question, so I answered what you already typed.
[10:23] <strange> there you can see my wonderful failures
[10:24] <YankDownUnder> strange, They're not YOUR failures, mate...blame them on someone else.
[10:24] <strange> YankDownUnder, after reboot same problems
[10:24] <strange> back to the drawingboard :)
[10:25] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: The question should be quite obvious.
[10:25] <Quadrescence> "How do I fix my above problem?"
[10:25] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, Ah. Right. Clear as mud.
[10:26] <YankDownUnder> strange, Mate, what happens if you try to install something that you don't already have - using apt-get install - and then running apt-get update after that?
[10:26] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: Are you trolling? I pasted a C program, gcc output, my architecture, the program compiled, the command I did
[10:27] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, Mate, you're right. I must be trolling, and I must have the answer to your question because obviously each and every one of us in here is running 64bit bloody amd Ubuntu and we're all conspiring against you by not answering the bloody question.Phew.
[10:27] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: You know, if you do not have an answer, it would be better if you just remained quiet and not filled the channel with noise.
[10:27] <strange> YankDownUnder, sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dev_7.6.0-1ubuntu4_i386.deb
[10:27] <strange> i think that fixed it
[10:27] <doktoreas> hello everybody, anyone knows if is possible to use fbi inside an ssh session
[10:28] <YankDownUnder> Quadrescence, You're so right.
[10:28] <randy_> Quadrescence: this is a support channel for the Ubuntu Distribution of Linux/GNU Debian.  Most of us are not programmers and I suspect you may have better luck in either #gcc or ##C
[10:28] <strange> YES! it works, thanks for thinking with me guys
[10:28] <YankDownUnder> strange, Coolbeans. I'l quit flooding the freaking channel.
[10:28] <Quadrescence> randy_: This is on Ubuntu.
[10:28] <jasonwryan> strange: nice one!
[10:28] <Quadrescence> This is only a problem with Ubuntu.
[10:28] <Quadrescence> randy_: So the problem is on the Ubuntu side.
[10:28]  * YankDownUnder now knows why he doesn't employ or befriend programmers - or wanna-be programmers
[10:30] <Quadrescence> YankDownUnder: What?
[10:30] <linux_probe> woo, big channel
[10:30] <Naznaz> hi I'm back
[10:30] <Naznaz> it still doesn't work
[10:30] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Workin?
[10:30] <Naznaz> no
[10:30] <Naznaz> ff is fast
[10:30] <randy_> Naznaz: have you tried taht ipv6 test command? how is it going?
[10:30] <Naznaz> as i disabled ipv6 seperately
[10:30] <Naznaz> it outputs 1, so it should be disabled
[10:31] <yessir_turan> Quadrescence: There seems to be some problem with your assembler..
[10:31] <yessir_turan> Try this:
[10:31] <randy_> Naznaz: excellent!
[10:31] <yessir_turan> gcc -S hello.c
[10:31] <Naznaz> no
[10:31] <YankDownUnder> Naznaz, Have you tried, in gconf-editor: /system/http_proxy => check the settings (or delete them)
[10:31] <yessir_turan> and then copy the contents of hello.s into a pastebin and paste the link
[10:32] <Naznaz> YankDownUnder, thanks I'll try
[10:33] <metalgeek> Hi, Have been trying to network two ubuntu pcs for two days now and getting nowhere, Am nub so probably something simple that i don't know but i'm pulling my hair out, Please Help!
[10:33] <Quadrescence> yessir_turan: http://codepad.org/JENI1HIY
[10:33] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, Can you ping the one machine from the other?
[10:34] <Quadrescence> yessir_turan: There seems to be nothing unexpected in the output except that it's using 64-bit registers and as is having a hissy fit over them.
[10:34] <lemonade_> screen mess at booting
[10:34] <lemonade_> what to do?
[10:34] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, Graphics are mucked up when you're booting?
[10:35] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, yeah,sometimes
[10:35] <Naznaz> everything but ff (and apt) is still slowly resolving addresses
[10:35] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, But it does finally boot up nicely to the desktop, ya?
[10:36] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, no,I have to reboot
[10:36] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, Have you check to make sure you've got the correct drivers for your graphics card?
[10:36] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, No,
[10:36] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, Give that a shot firstly mate
[10:37] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, there not connected
[10:37] <yessir_turan> Quadrescence: Now try as test.s
[10:37] <yessir_turan> and post the output..
[10:37] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, I think so,I get the correct 1280X800 ,and 3d desktop
[10:37] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, Um...right...then I've misinterpreted your situation
[10:37] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, am trying to create a wireless adhoc network between netbook and desktop
[10:38] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, I cant even get the wireless up
[10:38] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, Intel card?
[10:38] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, ATI
[10:38] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, You might look through the settings in Network Manager to be sure
[10:38] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:38] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, you can edit the /etc/default/grub and check the framebuffer settings
[10:39] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, Ive tried everything that my limited experiece allows, :)
[10:39] <newbie> Ciao c'è qualcuno che parla italiano?
[10:39] <MaRk-I> !it | newbie
[10:40] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, It makes no sense to me. I can at least get my netbook to connect to my windows wireless network but then i can't ping the other machines either
[10:40] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, what's the correct setting?
[10:40] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=74869037
[10:40] <newbie> grazie vado =)
[10:40] <newbie> hi
[10:41] <Naznaz> yey
[10:41] <olav_> Is there anyone thats know some stuff about checking for viruses on Windows via a Live-CD? Trying to check another friends computer for viruses, but ClamTK seems to end up not responding after a while.
[10:41] <Naznaz> randy_, I disabled ipv6 in grub with http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-910.html and now my opera is fast, too =)
[10:41] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, You can check by running "sudo apt-get hwinfo" => then run "sudo hwinfo --framebuffer" => check the settings available to your graphics card, then add them as such "VGA=0x0347" or whatever...
[10:42] <Naznaz> now I only need to get grub-shell to compile ...
[10:42] <YankDownUnder> olav_, Use a terminal, and do: clamscan --remove --recursive --quiet
[10:43] <lemonade_> YankDownUnder, thank you first,I'm going to have a try
[10:43] <YankDownUnder> lemonade_, Coolbeans.
[10:44] <Naznaz> randy_, YankDownUnder (and everyone I forgot) thanks for your help :)
 So that is an automated non-interactive commando for Clam that checks all disks if a am correct? If thats the case great :) Does it take care of any viruses as well or is it some kind of option to this after the process is done?
[10:46] <olav_> YankDownUnder, booting up to try now. is it best to just do this without logging on do the graphical user interface?
[10:46] <ShapeShifter499> hi again
[10:48] <ShapeShifter499> I keep getting the "ugly" thumbnails of exe's instead of the better(imo) wine icon and little exe app icon in the corner
[10:48] <YankDownUnder> olav_, I've used the GUI, but run clamscan or f-prot in a terminal - so that I'm not draining resource on yet another GUI. Faster, too.
[10:49] <YankDownUnder> olav_, Sorry - didn't see the prev post - after you've mounted the drives (which are in /media) you run that command from the /media dir as root, and yes, it cleans up all the crap recursively and automagically with only a report at the end.
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> the exe thumbnail that looks like a windows "window" with the exe's native icon inside it, is what I've got now, I want the other one that is the wine icon with the exe's native icon in the corner, how do I do/get that?
[10:51] <olav_> YankDownUnder, Great, trying out now. Thanks a lot!
[10:51] <YankDownUnder> olav_, Just fyi mate, I generally use f-prot & clamav - run one then the other - just in case. AND make sure you update them prior to the scan mate
[10:54] <Amway> can we change ubuntu 10.04 startu logo ?
[10:54] <ShapeShifter499> brb
[10:55] <Amway> 9.10 startu logo was good, 10.04 got like a dos based game logo lol :D
[10:55] <om26er> Amway, you must be using the proprietary driver
[10:55] <YankDownUnder> Amway, You can look through the package manager and find more plymouth themes to boot to.
[10:56] <olav_> YankDownUnder, will do :)
[10:56] <Amway> proprietary driver ? how to check ?
[10:57]  * YankDownUnder thinks that you don't buy it from Amway firstly
[10:57] <om26er> Amway, did you install an drivers?
[10:57] <stetho> If I do an apt-get update or install I get a connection time out to archive.canonical.com. How can I tell if this server is actually down or if there's something else going on?
[10:57] <YankDownUnder> stetho, You can ping the server to check
[10:58] <Amway> drivers for what ?
[10:58] <schnux> stetho: behind proxy?
[10:58] <Amway> i just upgraded 9.10 to 10.04
[10:59] <stetho> Nope, not behind proxy and it responds to ping.
[10:59] <YankDownUnder> stetho, Could be traffic at this time of night/day...I get it sometimes when it's peaked in the US
[11:00] <schnux> stetho: telnet archive.canonical.com 80  ?
[11:00] <YankDownUnder> I need coffee.
[11:01] <stetho> Interesting - telnet returns a 301. I'm being redirected somewhere...
[11:03] <viric> Hello people.
[11:03] <olav_> YankDownUnder, could I just ask one final question before hitting enter? If any files are marked as infected, can it result in loss of personal data? It is not my computer and I believe the one who owns the computer have some stuff that will be missed. The most important are images though. I am not used to viruses and such :p
[11:03] <viric> Does anybody know, why ubuntu repository has the nvidia driver version 195.34, while the nvidia website has 295.35? Why that big difference in numbers?
[11:04] <kisuke> viric: afaik, it has to do with there being more revisions made for win thatn for *nix
[11:04] <metalgeek> ther day i blacklisted something on advice from a wireless webpage about setting up a ralink  rt2870. How can i undo this, i blacklisted 3 different drivers i think but it made no difference so i would like to undo to try again
[11:04] <ahaios> hello...does anyone know what is the command to saw the type of the router im connected on wireless?
[11:05] <viric> kisuke: I talk about the linux drivers specifically
[11:05] <jgcampbell300> well im pretty sure i just erased my grub loader
[11:05] <viric> kisuke: I need an ubuntu user to install 'the latest nvidia drivers', and what he can choose looks far from the latest
[11:06] <kisuke> did you go t the nivida site? and what do you need them for?
[11:06] <mrvn_> Is there a way for upstart jobs to say "stop be BEFORE stopping foo"?
[11:07] <jgcampbell300> could someone tell me how to reinstall grub with out reinstalling ubuntu ?
[11:07] <metalgeek> How do i un blacklist drivers?
[11:07] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, are you sure you need to reinstall it
[11:08] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, would updating it do
[11:08] <kisuke> ok how wouldi install a .DSC?
[11:08] <jgcampbell300> dont know really ... i was using tweak ubuntu or something like that and i erased something bad lol
[11:09] <jgcampbell300> guess i could try updating if i could get to a promp
[11:09] <jgcampbell300> prompt
[11:09] <kisuke> !dsc
[11:09] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, Do you not get terminal option at grub
[11:09] <kisuke> !source
[11:10] <jgcampbell300> nope ... i boot and get flashing thing at top left like it is stuck .. right after hardware check
[11:10] <jgcampbell300> hmm wonder if ssh has loaded
[11:10] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, use live cd to boot into vdesktop to get a terminal to update grub
[11:11] <MegaHerz> Hi all. My keyboard hangs every 2 seconds. Any ideas?
[11:11] <karma_police> i just reinstalled 10.04 and it boots to a grubrescue promt.... its not loading grub apparently
[11:11] <jgcampbell300> kk
[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> back
[11:11] <metalgeek> Can anyone help me with undoing blacklist
[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> and I fixed that exe thumbnail problem
[11:12] <jgcampbell300> will a ubuntu server 10.04 disk work i dont think i have any desk top disks here
[11:12] <karma_police> would a corupt install cause a "grubrescue" command prompt upon initial reboot?
[11:12] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, i believe so but am fairly new myself lol
[11:13] <jgcampbell300> kk brb
[11:13] <metalgeek> I have blacklisted 3 drivers that i want to un blacklist, how  to?
[11:14] <karma_police> would a corupt install cause a "grubrescue" command prompt upon initial reboot?
[11:15] <viric> kisuke: I went to the nvidia site, yes, to check the version.
[11:16] <metalgeek> Have asked same question 4 ties to no answer, am i doing something wrong (am newbie so don't understand)
[11:16] <viric> kisuke: I have to deploy some binaries in that system, and it will be easier for me if I could put my nvidia libGL binaries. But that requires that user to have the proper module in the kernel
[11:17] <jgcampbell300> wow its takeing forever to boot
[11:17] <kisuke> viric: why not just use the binarys off the nvida site?
[11:17] <jgcampbell300> i wonder witch is faster a usb hard drive or a internal sata
[11:17] <metalgeek> Hello?
[11:17] <ddavids> any idea what this means in wine? "Fialed FsUsbExService, No existing FsUsbExDevice". I get that evertime i start any program in wine...
[11:18] <iceroot> ddavids: #winehq is a better place for that i guess
[11:18] <jgcampbell300> sounds like it is looking for a usb drive that isnt there
[11:18] <jgcampbell300> ok im booted up
[11:18] <ddavids> iceroot: thanks
[11:19] <viric> kisuke: ubuntu is supposed to provide 'package management' :)
[11:19] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, ok so now open terminal and: sudo update-grub
[11:19] <jgcampbell300> k
[11:19] <kisuke> viric: it does, but it all tends to be older packages, because they have been proven stable.
[11:20] <viric> that was for debian. Also for ubuntu?
[11:20] <jgcampbell300> umm poop ... error cannont find device for /
[11:20] <viric> it has a package named "nvidia-current", that shows 195.34
[11:21] <hrhrhr_> Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS <--
[11:21] <hrhrhr_> what's the LTS stand for
[11:21] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, That dosnt sound good, but unfortunatly its as far as i know,
[11:21] <metalgeek> hrhrhr_, long term service
[11:22] <metalgeek> Can someone help mewith blacklist please
[11:22] <Mud> hrhrhr_ : 8.04 lts ftw :)
[11:23] <jgcampbell300> what did you blacklist
[11:23] <SwedeMike> metalgeek hrhrhr_ : long term support
[11:23] <hrhrhr_> cheers
[11:24] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, 3 drivers that were apparantly why my wireless dongle was not working
[11:24] <metalgeek> rt2870 driversto do with ralink
[11:25] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, i think that they were called something lik rt28000usb of something
[11:25] <metalgeek> IdleOne, Hello, i'm sorry to bother you but you have been really helpfull in the past, could you spare a minute?
[11:25] <jgcampbell300> whitelist
[11:26] <jgcampbell300> from what i read on google
[11:26] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, Something you can try is to connect the machine to ethernet, and do System => Administration => Hardware Drivers => check to see if any drivers for the dongle are found (of course, you have to have the dongle IN at the time)
[11:27] <Andreas05> paidia eimai arxarios sto ubuntu kai exw provlima. mporei na voithisei kaneis?
[11:27] <metalgeek> jgcampbell300, thanks, is there a way to see a list of my blacklists
[11:27] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, don't have ethernet
[11:27] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[11:28] <Andreas05> can someone help guys? ubuntu newbie here
[11:29] <om26er> !ask | Andreas05
[11:29] <jgcampbell300> not sure but i would think man whitelist would show you manual
[11:29] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, opened the file but can't see the drivers that i am looking for, dose this mean that they are not blacklisted at all?
[11:29] <jgcampbell300> hmm maybe the info you looking for is under /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[11:30] <jgcampbell300> im not the greatest with wifi tho but looks like a good place to look
[11:31] <YankDownUnder> metalgeek, How's about this - when you boot with the liveCD, does the wireless work?
[11:31] <phani1> Hi... I am running lucid and need help in configuring Ec1262 reliance data card... any help please....
[11:32] <metalgeek> YankDownUnder, hold the phone, i'll try, back in a min
[11:33] <hrhrhr_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[11:33] <ravma> hi mini tube is not working
[11:33] <hrhrhr_> which of those do i use for xeon (intel 64bit)
[11:34] <jpds> hrhrhr_: A server?
[11:34] <hrhrhr_> yeh
[11:34] <jpds> hrhrhr_: http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.4/ubuntu-8.04.4-server-amd64.iso
[11:34] <hrhrhr_> it lists it as 'amd64'
[11:34] <hrhrhr_> we run intel
[11:34] <jpds> hrhrhr_: "Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2)."
[11:34] <hrhrhr_> perhaps amd64 is not the most appropriate name?
[11:35] <jpds> hrhrhr_: No, but it's the historical one.
[11:35] <hrhrhr_> ok cheers
[11:35] <ravma> hello iam running ubuntu netmix  latest version of mini tube is not working insted it skiping
[11:35] <SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: it's the name used.
[11:36] <SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64#AMD64
[11:36] <monkey_dust> ravma, you're not the person whose minitube won't work - mine won't either, i did not try again to make it work
[11:36] <hrhrhr_> presumably it's now deprecated in 10*
[11:36] <monkey_dust> *not the first person
[11:37] <ravma> but i like mini tube
[11:37] <ravma> it streems well than in browser
[11:38] <jpds> hrhrhr_: 10.04? No.
[11:38] <hrhrhr_> it's still called amdblah?
[11:38] <hrhrhr_> lol
[11:38] <jpds> hrhrhr_: Yes.
[11:38] <SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: yes, because that's the correct name.
[11:38] <hrhrhr_> SwedeMike
[11:38] <YankDownUnder> They wanted to rename it to "Carrot64" but it didn't take off very well.
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> how is 'amd' the correct name for a distribution which applies to architecture extending beyond amd?
[11:39] <wgrant> hrhrhr_: AMD invented the architecture.
[11:39] <SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: do you thin kit's weird that amd emulated i386? so it's weird that it's called i386 ?
[11:39] <ravma> any one can make my minitube running
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> citation? :)
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> anyway
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> who cares
[11:39] <SwedeMike> 12:36 < SwedeMike> hrhrhr_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64#AMD64
[11:39] <red2kic> hrhrhr_ does.
[11:39] <hrhrhr_> is there a changelog for 8.04.04
[11:39] <Andreas05> I have a problem booting Ubuntu from Hard disk (old video drivers). Please Help?
[11:40] <jpds> hrhrhr_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/8.04.4
[11:40] <SwedeMike> it seems hrhrhr_ is not very grateful for the help he's getting.
[11:41] <aseoista> ciao
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> SwedeMike: my apologies
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> you are all right
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> The original specification was created by AMD, and has been implemented by AMD, Intel, VIA, and others.
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> now it makes perfect sense
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> i am very grateful to all :)
[11:41] <hrhrhr_> cheers jpds
[11:42] <wgrant> hrhrhr_: Other distributions and operating systems may use other names. Partly because Debian adopted the architecture quite early.
[11:42] <wgrant> hrhrhr_: And we inherited the name from Debian.
[11:42] <hrhrhr_> cool
[11:43] <YankDownUnder> I wonder, however, if we argue the point about naming conventions, if somehow it will all change by the end of the week? (This conversation has been going on for more than 18 years, BTW)
[11:43] <Andreas05> Newbie Help please :D I have a problem booting Ubuntu from Hard disk (old video drivers). I probably need to edit grub. Any Help?
[11:43] <SwedeMike> !details | Andreas05
[11:45] <Andreas05> Running ubuntu 10.04. Succesfully boot from usb using live i915.modeset=1  / cant boot from hard drive, I get blank screen
[11:45] <wgrant> Andreas05: That's interesting. i915.modeset=1 should be the default in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[11:46] <SwedeMike> Andreas05: have you tried invoking grub2 menu on boot?
[11:46] <YankDownUnder> wgrant, Been through this already... Andreas05 have you added this line in your /etc/default/grub config?
[11:46] <Andreas05> yes I did, but update-grub does not work
[11:47] <Andreas05> I get "error cannot find a device for"  is dev mounted"
[11:47] <jgcampbell300> lol i have same problem as Andreas05
[11:48] <Andreas05> I used this guide http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[11:49] <Andreas05> swedemike: How can invoke grub2 menu?
[11:49] <schnux> andreas: looks like in grub is just the wrong device generated ?
[11:49] <Andreas05> shnux: please explain a bit. I'm a complete newb
[11:50] <Andreas05> where is grub supposed to be? different partition?
[11:51] <YankDownUnder> Andreas05, Um...just reading through the page - did you also read through the comments that were left?
[11:52] <monkey_dust> !grub| Andreas05
[11:53] <schnux> andreas: please provide complete error message like "error cannot find a device fo
[11:53] <Andreas05> I should also tell that it's not a dual boot. I only have ubuntu installed
[11:53] <schnux> after doing grub-update
[11:53] <Kangarooo> whats this? used sudo apt-get update and on finish i got W: Failed to fetch http://lv.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[11:53] <Kangarooo> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:54] <SwedeMike> Kangarooo: "Hash Sum mismatch" means the file didn't checksum correctly.
[11:54] <schnux> kangaroo: just wait and try again
[11:54] <Andreas05> "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)"
[11:55] <Kangarooo> schnux: how this was created? server still dl updates?
[11:55] <Andreas05> that's what I get after running the command
[11:55] <schnux> andreas: from which environment are you doing update-grub ?
[11:55] <Andreas05> ubuntu live from usb
[11:56] <schnux> kangaroo: youre using lv - looks like temporary problem. did you wait some time and tried again?
[11:56] <mono_> the NSA knows it all!!!!!!! Google: ' remote neural monitoring'
[11:56] <astropirate> I was told that i could access a process's memory using the /prc/[PIC]/mem interface but when i open it in a text editor it's empty. and when i open it with using open() and read() it gives me the following errno error "No such process". Am i missing something here?
[11:56] <computer_> what packages do i need to install so pcsx emulator will run?
[11:56] <jgcampbell300> hmm maybe look under /media/ "big long number" /usr/sbin/grub-prob
[11:56] <YankDownUnder> Andreas05, Have you tried to chroot and update grub again?
[11:57] <Kangarooo> schnux: i got this error right now.. but i just changed to main ubuntu server and got 3 updates. so while this problem in lv server exist i cant get updates.
[11:57] <Andreas05> yank: how do I do that? lol
[11:57] <MauL^> I am trying to establish an sshfs auto mount between 2 ubuntus.. somehow, I see the directory mounted but I cannot dir in
[11:57] <schnux> andreas: in chroot: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[11:57] <P-Nuts> Which of mii-tool and ethtool is telling the truth here?  One says "negotiated 1000baseT-HD"; the other "Speed: 1000Mb/s", "Duplex: Full".  Obviously, I'd rather have it full-duplex if possible.  I've tried a couple of different cables.  Full command output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470211/
[11:58] <YankDownUnder> Andreas05, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[11:58] <schnux> andreas: sry, that you'll do _before_ chroot
[11:58] <Andreas05> schun what is chroot?
[11:58] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: I'd trust ethtool.
[11:59] <P-Nuts> SwedeMike: by the way, ethtool wasn't installed by default, whereas mii-tool was, why is that?
[11:59] <schnux> andreas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
[11:59] <YankDownUnder> P-Nuts, ethtool starts with "E" therefore more trustworthy. ;)
[12:00] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: I have no idea, but I do know that 1000BASE-HD is very rare, never seen it in real life.
[12:00] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/mii-tool-ethtool-different-output-better-option-than-either-500025/ says ethtool superseeds miitool
[12:01] <Andreas05> shnux what is the line I should type to do what you say?
[12:01] <schnux> andreas: mkdir /mnt/chroot; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc; chroot /mnt/chroot /bin/bash; update-grub ...
[12:02] <schnux> andreas: sry mistakes, again:
[12:02] <schnux> andreas: mkdir /mnt/chroot; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/chroot/dev; mount -t proc /proc /mnt/chroot/proc; chroot /mnt/chroot /bin/bash; update-grub ...
[12:02] <P-Nuts> SwedeMike: on another computer on the same switch (though it's running Debian Squeeze, not Ubuntu), both ethtool and mii-tool claim full-duplex
[12:03] <Andreas05> the semicolon mean new lines of commandes, right?
[12:03] <schnux> andreas: customize update-grub how you wanted to use it
[12:03] <schnux> yes
[12:03] <schnux> andreas: semicolons automatically seperate each commandos
[12:03] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: same hardware?
[12:04] <Andreas05> tried first line. cannot create directory...permission denied
[12:04] <dury> hi there channel :)
[12:05] <schnux> andreas: sudo
[12:05] <P-Nuts> SwedeMike: no, not even the same architecture
[12:05] <P-Nuts> but the same version of mii-tool apparently
[12:05] <schnux> andreas: sudo bevore every command except chroot
[12:05] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: did you even read the article I pasted to you?
[12:05] <smallfoot-> o
[12:06] <schnux> andreas: or you'll become root for simplicity
[12:06] <smallfoot-> where can i request new language ditionaries to be added to ubuntu?
[12:06] <dury> K3b doesn't recognise my devices burner...I would appreciate it if someone can drive to setup it properly, please
[12:06] <smallfoot-> ubuntu has no Elvish dictionaries
[12:06] <dury> sorry can drive me to setup it up correctly
[12:07] <P-Nuts> SwedeMike: yes, so you think it's just that mii-tool doesn't query certain hardware correctly, and ethtool is more likely to cope?
[12:07] <SwedeMike> dury: are you planning to mention what kind of burner you have?
[12:07] <YankDownUnder> smallfoot-, Yes, there are Elvish dictionaries.
[12:07] <linux36> the ubuntu in the VM can't PING network
[12:07] <SwedeMike> P-Nuts: as it states, they seem to work better with different hardware, none of them are perfect and works with everything.
[12:07] <linux36> who can slove it
[12:07] <smallfoot-> YankDownUnder, where?
[12:07] <dury> SwedeMike: what you mean
[12:08] <b43confused> hi
[12:08] <Andreas05> snhux: second line error mount: mount point /mnt/chroot/dev doesnot exist
[12:08] <schnux> linux36: ifconfig;lsmod;lspci;dmesg
[12:08] <YankDownUnder> smallfoot-, They take so long to research, test, verify and compile, that by the time the one's for 10.04 are ready, we'll be using 12.10
[12:08] <b43confused> can someone help me figure out how to set up my broadcom chip
[12:08] <b43confused> my wireless
[12:08] <SwedeMike> dury: do you expect anyone to be able to help you without even knowing what hardware you're using?
[12:08] <schnux> andreas: bevore mount points can be mounted, the directory must exist (mkdir)
[12:09] <smallfoot-> YankDownUnder, i was thinking of dictionaries for myspell or ispell that can be used for like Firefox, Office, etc
[12:09] <dury> SwedeMike: until now k3b was right.... but I don't know how did disconfigured it
[12:09] <YankDownUnder> b43confused, You should be able to - while connected via ethernet - check the Hardware Drivers - and the Broadcom drivers will be found and activated.
[12:09] <b43confused> i can't connect to the ethernet
[12:09] <b43confused> i only have wireless on my computer
[12:09] <b43confused> can i download
[12:09] <b43confused> something on my windows partition
[12:09] <b43confused> put it on a usb
[12:09] <b43confused> and use it on my 10.04
[12:10] <b43confused> ubuntu?
[12:10] <linux36> yes
[12:10] <ikonia> b43confused: what do you want to download?
[12:10] <b43confused> i want my broadcom wireless card (b43) to work on my linux ubuntu 10 partition
[12:10] <mrpinky> hi guys :D does anybody know the ALSA device name for the mixer (like selecting "mixer" as the input device on windows), or any way to find out?
[12:10] <b43confused> but i can't use ethernet
[12:10] <linux36> 8.10
[12:10] <b43confused> i have no access
[12:11] <ikonia> b43confused: ok, that's understandable, and should work
[12:11] <schnux> mrpinky: $ alsamixer ?  /dev/mixer ?
[12:11] <b43confused> ikonia:  what do i download?
[12:11] <b43confused> ikonia:  i doewnloaded b43-cutter
[12:12] <ikonia> b43confused: try not to press enter for every few words, type what you want to say, then press enter
[12:12] <b43confused> ikonia: but it is not making sense to me  (i am NOT a good sysadmin)
[12:12] <premchand> Hi... Can anyone help me on reliance EC1262 on lucid please.... i am unable to configure it
[12:12] <krishna> Can anyone help me
[12:12] <ikonia> !Broadcom
[12:12] <Wolphie> krishna, what's the problem?
[12:12] <ikonia> b43confused: checkout that link
[12:12] <monkey_dust> !ask| krishna
[12:13] <dury> SwedeMike: how do I know which burner I have... what's the command to type in terminal or maybe there is another way to know it
[12:13] <novato_br> how can I my video work? I can't access gui and firefox to access internet, I'm running ubuntu 10.04 under shell
[12:13] <krishna> Actually I want to change my default disply manager
[12:13] <b43confused> thanks for the help on the link but i can't run apt-get or wget or anything like this because i have no ethernet.  i have to install all files from a USB
[12:13] <ikonia> b43confused: download the packages manually, then install them
[12:13] <schnux> novato:br: what have you done that it does not work? anymore?
[12:14] <schnux> novato: installed drivers?
[12:14] <ikonia> b43confused: is there a reason you can't use the ethernet to resolve this ?
[12:14] <krishna> Wolphie are you there
[12:14] <schnux> krishna: where's the problem in changing the display manager ?
[12:14] <jgcampbell300> what was the command that shows you all your hdd's like hd0 etc
[12:14] <novato_br> schnux: i've tried to update videocard drivers
[12:15] <ikonia> jgcampbell300: do "sudo fdisk -l "
[12:15] <novato_br> and I've got this error
[12:15] <jgcampbell300> that is just showing me sda1
[12:15] <krishna> I have installed GDM I want to remove it
[12:15] <jrib> krishna: how did you install it?
[12:15] <mrpinky> schnux, thanks! :D
[12:15] <monkey_dust> !gdm| krishna
[12:15] <Wolphie> krishna, you want to completely remove GDM or do you mean you don't want to use it anymore?
[12:15] <novato_br> how can I reconfigure the video driver on shell?
[12:15] <krishna> using apt-get install gdm
[12:16] <jrib> !apt > krishna
[12:16] <jgcampbell300> sudo apt-get remove gdm
[12:16] <b43confused> okay.  i am going to try to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access advice for "NO Internet Access" install.  I may check back in with you all in five minutes though.  thanks to everyone for your help.  xoxoxoxoxoxoxox
[12:16] <krishna> ok
[12:18] <novato_br> !bot |install video card
[12:19] <krishna> How can I configure system sound in BT4
[12:20] <ikonia> KrisDouglas: backtrack is not supported here, it's in the channel #backtrack-linux
[12:20] <ikonia> oops
[12:20] <premchand> Hi... When i try to configure my USB card getting error Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
[12:20] <premchand>   any suggestions please....
[12:20] <ikonia> krishna backtrack is not supported here, it's in the channel #backtrack-linux
[12:20] <ikonia> premchand: what type of card is it
[12:20] <premchand> ikonia: its EC1262 Huwaei
[12:21] <ikonia> premchand: is that a network or broadband card ?
[12:21] <mrpinky> is there a way to use the currently-playing-system-audio as an input to gstreamer pipeline (linux)? i tried alsasrc device="/dev/mixer" but it fails trying to open /dev/mixer (no such file or directory)
[12:21] <mrpinky> sry wrong channel
[12:21] <KrisDouglas> ikonia, I never mentioned backtrack :P
[12:22] <KrisDouglas> ikonia, I just logged in xD
[12:22] <ikonia> KrisDouglas: typo
[12:22] <KrisDouglas> ikonia, no problem :)
[12:22] <glaucous> Anyone know of a good non-Gnome-based music player? Amarok is not working too well, failing with _some_ flac files and not able to play 96/24 files at all.
[12:23] <An_Ony_Moose> what's the boot splash screen program called again?
[12:23] <MaRk-I> premchand: try this:   http://freedomyug.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/how-to-configure-reliance-huawei-modem-with-ubuntu-10-4-lts-lucid-lynx/
[12:23] <Benhuard> premchand : did you have a look at http://freedomyug.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/how-to-configure-reliance-huawei-modem-with-ubuntu-10-4-lts-lucid-lynx/
[12:23] <astropirate> An_Ony_Moose: plymoth i think
[12:23] <astropirate> or something simillar
[12:24] <An_Ony_Moose> ah yes, that
[12:24] <An_Ony_Moose> 's it
[12:24] <An_Ony_Moose> thanks astropirate
[12:24] <astropirate> :-) np i know bcouse mine fails to start :-(
[12:24] <premchand> MaRk-I/Benhuard: that's the same link i have tried and getting error
[12:26] <premchand> Any other suggestions for me on configuring EC1262 WAN card please.....
[12:27] <astropirate> I was told that i could access a process's memory using the /prc/[PIC]/mem interface but when i open it in a text editor it's empty. and when i open it with using open() and read() it gives me the following errno error "No such process". Am i missing something here?
[12:28] <MauL^> is there a good GUI tool for configuring startup scripts in gnome @ ubuntu 10.04
[12:29] <Jinxed-> How difficult would it be to write your own driver for something?
[12:29] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, very if you do not own the hardware, why what do you need to make a driver for?
[12:29] <aguitel> MauL^, starupmanager
[12:31] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, I basically is a device that will do IP over ethernet, but it registers as a composite device I believe something like 4 serial and 1 ethernet
[12:31] <Jinxed-> sorry IP over USB not ethernet
[12:31] <dustball1> hello there. i want tu use my WhiteStar II dvb-stick with ubuntu. i run on ubunut 10.04, got the af9015 header for the kernel and got the firmware. still i dont know how to run it exactly
[12:31] <brijithmac> How can I enable seamless mode in virtualbox
[12:32] <An_Ony_Moose> how can you configure plymouth to use a different theme?
[12:32] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, you need to install the virtual box additions package, usually only works in windows from my experience
[12:32] <An_Ony_Moose> !plymouth
[12:32] <dustball1> noone can give me help with the dvb-thingy?
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> An_Ony_Moose: its doable.. i  just dont recall how/where  :) I normally just disable plymouth.
[12:32] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, I would most likely think that it is nearly impossible without schematics of the device itself.
[12:33] <computer_> what is a programm i can use to run windows on ubuntu...wine isnt working for me, i heard some talk bout vmware but not sure how to get it
[12:34] <kisuke> was there a netbook remix for 9.10?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> computer_:  go to the virtualbox homepage and read up on Virtualbox.  its easier to use then vmware
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !virtualbox | computer_
[12:34] <computer_> thanks
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> computer_:  wine can run specific windows apps.   how well it works.. depends on the app.
[12:34] <An_Ony_Moose> nvm I've found it out
[12:35] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: you mean,  linux as host machine one can not operate in seamless mode ?
[12:36] <computer_> ok i am installin virtual box package now :)
[12:36] <computer_> thanks dr willis
[12:36] <dury> how do I check if my burner it's connected rightly in ubuntu?
[12:36] <dustball1> once again: i have a dvb-usb stick and want it to run, but can't. whats wrong?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> dustball1:  could be it has no linux support.
[12:37] <bastiaen> Is there any software availeble to run an OS in a vmbox just like you could run linux inside windows?
[12:37] <dustball1> well it doesnt have from the start, but with ubuntu or at least kernel 2.6.28 it runs.. or should
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> dustball1:  You may want to check the forums for its exact brand/make/model and check the MythTV/Mythbuntu forums also
[12:37] <jgcampbell300> hmm there should be a special menu in ubuntu for me ... if grub dosnt run it should read "So you have trashed your OS again. Please click here."
[12:37] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, are there any tools to take a windows driver and convert it for use in ubuntu? Also if I had access to the schmatics, how difficult would it be
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> dustball1:  so what have you done to 'use' it so far?
[12:37] <brijithmac> Hi all, How can I enable seamless mode in virtualbox ? The seamless mode menu seems disabled ...
[12:38] <dustball1> its plugged in, i downloaded and installed the af9015-module and copied the firmware to /lib/firmware
[12:38] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, Even with the schematics i would imagine it would be a real pain, and the only thing i know of with windows drivers is NDIS and im pretty sure that it wouldnt be able to work off of it.
[12:39] <jgcampbell300> is it possable to make 5 diffrent types of hard drives show up as one HD in ubuntu ?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  via raid/lvm yes. I think its possible. but it can be a hassle.
[12:40] <kisuke> !netbook
[12:40] <schnux> campbell: of course - mount ...
[12:40] <computer_> hmm do i need to have a windows cd to use virtualbox?
[12:40] <schnux> campbel: LVM
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  you mean 5 'different' hard drives showing up as one large filesystem?   I cant think of 5 differnt types of hard drives. :)
[12:41] <jgcampbell300> cool ... that would be neat to strip all my my storage drives togather
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> computer_:  you install the guest OS inside virtual box.. its a 'virtual pc' - so you need some sort of OS to install into it.
[12:41] <jgcampbell300> ya i mean sizes most are WD
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  untill one dies.. and you lose data on all them.
[12:41] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, so basically the end product of the device is that it is doing IP over usb... there aren't any other device drivers that I might be able to use for it?
[12:41] <jgcampbell300> lol ... good point
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  you could just mount them all to a single 'Data' directory with each drive as a sub dir.
[12:41] <brijithmac> Hi all, How can I enable seamless mode in virtualbox ? The seamless mode menu seems disabled ... ?
[12:42] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, if you have googled around for any model numbers displayed on the device, and looked for alternative names, it's not looking promising.
[12:42] <jgcampbell300> ya that would work
[12:42] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, i mentioned before, you have to install guest additions
[12:42] <jgcampbell300> i was thinking of the speed increase at first tho but loss of data would suck
[12:42] <ascent__> how to connect on LAN in Lubuntu
[12:43] <ascent__> other pc has Win Xp
[12:43] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, you can do that through the mount menu if i recall, but as far as I am aware seamless mode is limited to some operating systems, which one are you using?
[12:43] <jgcampbell300> oh well just dreaming ... i crashed my grub and getting to sleepy to work on it lol
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !samba | ascent__
[12:43] <karim__> ubuntu's window border and controls disappear!
[12:43] <Raven__> #ubuntu.pl
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> karim__:  try alt-f2 and run 'metacity --replace'
[12:43] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: Lucid
[12:43] <computer_> hmm so i am basicaly runin linux, but using a windows OS for games!
[12:43] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: and the gust is windows xp
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> computer_:  games may not work very well in virtualbox.. it depends on the game.
[12:44] <computer_> ugh
[12:44] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, you just need to install guest additions
[12:44] <jgcampbell300> hmm does anyone know if adobe master collection will run under wine or would i have to go Vbox
[12:44] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: how to do that ?
[12:44] <bastiaen> It will run under wine
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | jgcampbell300
[12:45] <bastiaen> Well cs4 runs great for me atm
[12:45] <KrisDouglas> jgcampbell300, I would recommend using a virtual box, it is a pain in the ass to run it under wine, its almost un-usable
[12:45] <CrackGuy> I've just installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but the sound card doesn't seem to work.. can someone help me please..
[12:45] <KrisDouglas> that is using the latest version of wine from their GIT repository
[12:45] <dustball1> okay uhm... any good program that is dvb-compatible?
[12:45] <researcher1> i want to connect to my office pc which has ubuntu
[12:45] <jgcampbell300> ahh ... kk ... just wondered if anyone else had tryed it ... im so sick of running windows for work
[12:46] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, Devices menu, then click install guest additions
[12:46] <researcher1> kindly help me connect 2 my students aho r in office n Im at home pc
[12:46] <jgcampbell300> you could use Openssh
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> researcher1:  use ssh/scp/sshfs  if you want to access files.
[12:47] <CrackGuy> I've just installed fresh Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but the sound card doesn't seem to work.. can someone help me please..
[12:47] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas: its says. cannot find some file.. download from Internet
[12:47] <karim__> why don't the window border and the controls stay the way they are when I switch on again
[12:47] <researcher1> Dr Wilis how to do that my office pc dont have ssh installed
[12:47] <researcher1> but home pc has
[12:47] <mrvn> Anyone with upstart knowledge here? With "stop on ((starting rc and runlevel [!2345]) or runlevel [2345])" in foo why does rc no longer start?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> researcher1:  then you are proberly out of luck. Unless you installed some other service on the box.
[12:48] <brijithmac> KrisDouglas:where can I get this  VBoxGuestAdditions.iso
[12:48] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, one second, just need to close something
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> brijithmac:  the virtualbox menus could auto mount it/download the latest last time i tried virtualbox
[12:48] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, is there a way to see detected hardware from usb?
[12:48] <karim__> i don't like metacity. compiz looks and acts way better
[12:49] <backTrack4> lsusb
[12:49] <KrisDouglas> lsusb
[12:49] <tyler> .hu
[12:49] <backTrack4> krisCouglas ok he
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> brijithmac:  virtualbox guest os window menus -> devices -> install guest addations. and it will mount that iso to the guest os.
[12:50] <computer_> linux isnt very gamer friendly :(
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> karim__:  so use 'compiz --replace'  if compiz or metacity crashes you lose your title/decorations. You may want to install the fusion-icon tool. it can restart compiz if compiz crashes.
[12:50] <kisuke> computer_: no, game companys arent linux frendly
[12:50] <computer_> lol kisuke
[12:50] <KrisDouglas> computer_,  because nobody writes modern games for linux at the moment, Steam is soon going to change that, try using wine to run your games though, some of them work quite well
[12:50] <brijithmac>  Dr_Willis:when I clicked the menu it asked me to download the guest addition.iso
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> game Companies are often not 'gamer' friendly
[12:51] <kisuke> computer_: its true.
[12:51] <kisuke> Dr_Willis: that depends on the company.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> brijithmac:  it just auto mounted it here for me. Im using the Vbox from the download site. Not the OSE version from the repos
[12:51] <brijithmac>  Dr_Willis:oh I see..
[12:51] <mrpinky> a really great free linux RTS game (similar to total annihilation) sudo apt-get install spring-engine
[12:51] <brijithmac>  Dr_Willis:I am using OSE
[12:51] <KrisDouglas> brijithmac, yea, Dr_Willis is right, if you download the non open source version from the website, you will probably have more luck, its easy to install
[12:51] <Jinxed-> KrisDouglas, would it be possible to run something that wine or some virtualization tool that would allow me to run my hardware with the windows driver in some virtualization but still get the ip data back to ubuntu?
[12:51] <Amway> i want to play Prince of Persia :p
[12:52] <mrpinky> Ameth, install "dosbox"
[12:52] <CrackGuy> I've just installed fresh Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but the sound card driver doesn't seem to work.. can someone help me please..
[12:52] <jgcampbell300> did you guys ever figure out that grub problem someone was having earlier ?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> i get my games from -> http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/
[12:53] <KrisDouglas> Jinxed-, yes, possibly, if you install Virtualbox from virtualbox.org, install Windows, you should be able to load the device and use it as if it was on the PC. As for Wine I honestly don't know if it would work.
[12:53] <KrisDouglas> another linux game i find way to addictive is Sauerbraten (a very good FPS all things considered)
[12:53] <Dan_E> how do i edit the boot up grub menu I am using ubuntu 1004 and Kernel 2.6.32-24. I want to edit out 2.6.32-23 & 22.
[12:54] <KrisDouglas> and there is also Urban Terror, which makes for some quite good counter-strike style gameplay
[12:54] <KrisDouglas> Dan_E i am not certain, but you may be able to use synaptic to uninstall the unwanted kernels, then use update-grub
[12:54] <MaRk-I> !sound | CrackGuy
[12:55] <jgcampbell300> !grub
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Uninstalling kernels should automatically update grub.
[12:55] <raj1000> I didnt get any reply on bt channel
[12:56] <KrisDouglas> raj1000, what was the question?
[12:56] <Dan_E> I did that and didnt update grub so i am left with the menu that needs edited
[12:56] <manday> How can I get rid of the big fat icons in natulius? That's awfully annoying! The icons take up 10% of the space, even in list view and the text is so large that blind people could read it
[12:56] <raj1000> How shuld I configure sound on bt4
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> raj1000:  see the BT4 channel.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !bt4 | raj1000
[12:56] <KrisDouglas> manday, go to appearence settings, and change the fonts to size 8 or 9, it makes it much more readable
[12:56] <MaRk-I> krishna changing nicks wont help you either
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !backtrack | raj1000
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> raj1000:  or check their forums.
[12:57] <raj1000> Noone is there i dont get any reply
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> raj1000:  sounds like a good reason to not use 'bt4' then
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[12:58] <Dan_E> maybe i should reinstall them and update grub this time?
[12:58] <dustball1> okay... my dvb-stick is said to be outta the box, but it doesnt work...
[12:58] <chris_osx> raj1000: what is bt4???
[12:58] <PureSine> hi, does ubuntu has a default firewall ?
[12:59] <Takeasy> help! my desktop icons are disappeared, and cant right click on desktop
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> PureSine:  thers no default rules set.
[12:59] <bastiaen> bt4 = Backtrack4
[12:59] <KrisDouglas> !ufw PureSine
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> PureSine:  but the feature is there.
[12:59] <TiK> help I accidently removed the wireless panel and can't reinstall it *can't find it in the list)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | TiK
[12:59] <backTrack4> bastiaen yes
[12:59] <jgcampbell300> hey Dr ... i have 4 partitions on a drive and i am trying to find the one to install grub to ... two say linux one extended and one swap ... how do i figure out witch one is right
[12:59] <PureSine> how can I activate it then ?
[13:00] <chris_osx> bastiaen: what is that?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  you nromally install grub to the MBR of teh drive. Not a partition of the drive
[13:00] <TiK> henius
[13:00] <TiK> genuis, thanks
[13:00] <MaRk-I> !firewall | PureSine
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> jgcampbell300:  ie: install grub to /dev/sda   NOT /dev/sda1 sda2 or any other # just 'sda'
[13:00] <Takeasy> help! my desktop icons are disappeared, and cant right click on desktop
[13:00] <KrisDouglas> PureSine http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823741
[13:01] <jgcampbell300> ok thanks
[13:01] <tobiasz> newest kernel makes my Ubuntu load forever, it just stays at Ubuntu splashscreen, anyone got this problem too? I rarely can boot without problems on it
[13:01] <PureSine> ok thanks
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  sounds like nautilus crashed. try alt-f2 and run 'nautilus'
[13:02] <razz1> is there any way to make the sound output louder, my lappy sounds louder under windows but way less in ubuntu
[13:02] <manday> KrisDouglas: im concerned about the huge icons in front of the text
[13:02] <Takeasy> fail to load, Dr_Willis
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  did you try  just logging out/back in?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  or open up a terminal and try running nautilus and look for error messages
[13:03] <Takeasy> Dr_Willis: tried, same prob
[13:03] <Takeasy> will do
[13:03] <giovy> salve
[13:03] <giovy> Firefox mi si avvia solo da root? why?
[13:03] <Pici> !it | giovy
[13:04] <Takeasy> Dr_Willis: natualus not installed, should i install it?
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  Nautilus is the default file manager in Ubuntu...  i doubt if its not installed...
[13:04] <researcher1> how do I know if ubuntu OS is available in my native language
[13:04] <Takeasy> i use xubuntu
[13:04] <Hedron> I was wandering, is there a way to actually stop using sudo, kdesudo, gksudo for every single admin task in ubuntu?  I tried setting rootpw in sudoers, but for some tasks it continues to ask for user password instead root's one.
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Takeasy:  then i have no idea. I dont use xubuntu and i dont know how it handles the desktop icons. try #xubuntu perhaps
[13:04] <Mr> hello guys
[13:05] <slow-motion> hi
[13:05] <Takeasy> Dr_Willis: i got it, thx
[13:05] <Mr> had anybody tried qt
[13:05] <KrisDouglas> Hedron, sudo -i puts you in a permanent root shell for that session
[13:06] <Pengy> Hello!!!
[13:06] <Mr> almost drive me  crazy
[13:06] <KrisDouglas> Hedron, if you were to launch any apps from that shell they would be running as root, and work as root.
[13:06] <Hedron> No, you do not understand, I do not whant to use sudo. At all. I whant to use su.
[13:06] <computer_> gonna see if i can get GUildwars to work with wine, so far its working :)
[13:06] <Hedron> I whant to revoke all admin privileges from user
[13:06] <Mr> i use root
[13:06] <backTrack4> use root
[13:07] <Hedron> me too, but whant to
[13:07] <kryl> hi
[13:07] <Hedron> stop sudo from appearing in places like kpackagekit
[13:07] <Mr> ah, why not root?
[13:07] <backTrack4> heeeeeeee
[13:07] <Hedron> as I mentoined I set the rootpw in sudoers
[13:07] <razz1> is there any application to make the sound output louder
[13:07] <KrisDouglas> Hedron, "su -" does the same thing and puts you in an admin shell, the idea of running in an environment like that is security, you can do "sudo passwd root" and login as root, but you open yourself up to any person being able to do anyting with your pc
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> its best to learn to use the 'sudo' system.
[13:08] <Hedron> I know, I have enough experience with other linux systems, such as fedora, opensuse
[13:08] <daedaluz> I lost volume control icon from panel for no reason and it's not in applet selector. WTF?
[13:08] <Hedron> I whant to know how to stop sudo from usage
[13:08] <An_Ony_Moose> uninstall it?
[13:08] <KrisDouglas> Then in that case, you can login as root by using sudo passwd root
[13:08] <KrisDouglas> and then running the system as root
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  the one next to the mail is one of those new kind of applet. theres also the old gnome-volume-control-applet  you can run
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  did you remove that mail icon also?
[13:09] <Hedron> ok, tell me this - how using sudo to elevate ordinary user in ubuntu is diferent from run as under windows?
[13:09] <computer_> i installed ubuntu through wubi inside my windows xp;...is there any way to acess my windows xp files while i am in ubuntu?
[13:09] <Hedron> I whant to completely disable admin privileges for a user
[13:09] <MaRk-I> !root | Hedron
[13:10] <Hedron> I know sudo passwd or sudo su
[13:10] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: no it's still there
[13:10] <computer_> ROFL ubottu
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Hedron:  theres more to sudo that what most people realize  read up on it at --> http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/intro.html
[13:10] <Hedron> I have more than 7 years of unix/linux experience :-D
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  odd. it may of crashed.
[13:10] <An_Ony_Moose> computer_, ubottu is a bot
[13:10] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: I've tried restarting
[13:11] <Hedron> yes, but the way it is popping up arround every corner in ubuntu is annoing
[13:11] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: any idea what the process is called?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  Hmm. You could reset the panels
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[13:11] <tobiasz> newest kernel makes my Ubuntu load forever, it just stays at Ubuntu splashscreen, anyone got this problem too? I rarely can boot without problems on it
[13:11] <computer_> i love the matrix
[13:11] <computer_> and that was so awesome
[13:11] <Hedron> and I personally consider it to be major security flaw
[13:11] <Kartagis> I'm trying to connect to a windows machine via vinagre, and it says verification method is not supported. how come?
[13:11] <computer_> i am gonna put it on my facebook!
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  not really. I was just looking for it.. ive never noticed a way to close it or start it..
[13:11] <Hedron> or to say epic fail
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Hedron:  Sudo's been argued both ways in the forums.. and basically its how ubuntu works . so thats what this channel 'supports'
[13:11] <lostinspace_46> When compiling software, if you have an .sh file (for instance genfslist.sh) does not that file need to be executable?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> lostinspace_46:  if its not executable you need to do 'sh whatever.sh' then
[13:13] <matrix> hello guys
[13:13] <troopperi> computer_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=914358
[13:13] <computer_> k i will see
[13:13] <matrix> what do you think that s group parttion  ?
[13:13] <jgcampbell300> well maybe that installed grub back lol
[13:13] <geoff0110> anyone know why i virtualbox cant see my usb ports ?
[13:13] <computer_> thanks trooper
[13:13] <matrix> in my opinion ,i will use ext4
[13:13] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: I tried resetting, still not there. only network manager, bluetooth  and mail visible
[13:13] <daedaluz> Dr_Willis: volume controls work just fine under pulse, so it shouldn't be related to it
[13:13] <KrisDouglas> geoff0110, are you using the one from the repository
[13:14] <geoff0110> yes KrisDouglas
[13:14] <Mr> i use vritual box too
[13:14] <MaRk-I> geoff0110: virtualbox OSE you cant use USB on guest machines
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> daedaluz:  Try making a new user. and see if it shows up for them
[13:14] <backTrack4> how update kadu ??
[13:14] <jgcampbell300> ahhh crap
[13:14] <jgcampbell300> still got a blank screen
[13:14] <ABBADON> Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem with GRUB, is this the correct channel to ask?
[13:14] <lostinspace_46> Dr_Willis, I got the tarball for the program that allows you to "pretty up" the grub screen, and I am trying to compile it.  However, even the configure file isn't executable till I make it so.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> ABBADON:  we can always point you to some wiki/docs/guides
[13:14] <KrisDouglas> geoff0110, ahh, that done does not have USB support, you need to uninstall it and download the non-open source version from the website at http://virtualbox.org
[13:15] <KrisDouglas> geoff0110, it's just a deb file, and it won't delete your virtual machines
[13:15] <tobiasz> newest kernel makes my Ubuntu load forever, it just stays at Ubuntu splashscreen, anyone got this problem too? I rarely can boot without problems on it
[13:15] <geoff0110> ok sounds easy enough, apt-get remove virtualbox ?
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> thats right geoff0110
[13:16] <geoff0110> ok thanks KrisDouglas
[13:16] <ABBADON> Dr_Willis, Thank you, is there any reason why GRUB would stop at stage 1.5 when using a separate home partition on a USB hard drive?  Every time I have it plugged it, GRUB stops.
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> tobiasz, please don't repeat yourself, if you are not getting a response, it usually means nobody knows the solution to the problem
[13:17] <KrisDouglas> tobiasz, have you tried removing the new kernel with recovery mode and replacing it with the older one
[13:17] <jgcampbell300> is there a recovery program for grub ?
[13:17] <Hedron> You know, the combination "sudo su" is ridiculous enough, to make me whant to shoot the computer, obviously I will just continue using openSuSE, and I whanted to switch for using aptitude. But whatever.
[13:17] <geoff0110> KrisDouglas: one last question will apt-get remove delete my .Virtualbox folder ?
[13:18] <KrisDouglas> geoff0110, no, when you install the new virtualbox it should read that data, but, i would make a backup copy to be sure
[13:19] <tobiasz> KrisDouglas I've got the older one, I am just willing to let Ubuntu devs know about that issue
[13:19] <geoff0110> ok will do thanks
[13:19] <lostinspace_46> Dr_Willis, It does not seem like the program would compile if files that need to be executable, aren't.  Or am I missing something?  BTW, some of the .sh files are executable and some are not.  Might they get changed to executable when configure runs?
[13:19] <blip99> hi all, yesterday I did some resizing of partitions with gparted to give space out of some logical partitions to my main root primary partition. It completed but with some warnings, I can't figure out how serious those warnings are and whether I should recreate some partitions and reinstall Linux. Can you please take a look at lines 258, 433, 472: http://pastey.net/139012-2fac    ... do you think this is serious ?
[13:20] <tobiasz> KrisDouglas what should I do to report the problem to Ubuntu developers?
[13:20] <blip99> shall I reinstall Linux after recreating the partitions ?
[13:20] <lenovo> 没有中国到？
[13:20] <Misterio> blip99: It isn't necesary
[13:20] <MrSunshine> hmm, how do i make the grub menu wait for me to press a selection before continuing ?
[13:20] <Misterio> !english | lenovo
[13:20] <MaRk-I> !cn > lenovo
[13:20] <om26er> blip99, what do you mean by linux?
[13:21] <lostinspace_46> MrSunshine, hit any key
[13:21] <daedaluz> mystery of missing volume control applet remains
[13:21] <computer_> do not try to get your games to work with wine, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth...There is no gaming in linux. then you will see it is not the OS that games, but ur mind itself!
[13:22] <computer_> lol jk
[13:22] <lostinspace_46> MrSunshine, That is hit any key except enter
[13:22] <computer_> i got GW to work i think, so far its wroking!
[13:22] <computer_> !root
[13:22] <computer_> owned!
[13:22] <cutiyar> how to run windows program with virtual box ?
[13:23] <Kartagis> I'm trying to connect to a windows machine via vinagre, and it says verification method is not supported. how come?
[13:23] <tobiasz> cutiyar install windows in virtualbox :P
[13:23] <Kartagis> authentication*
[13:24] <cutiyar> tobiasz, now iam using ubuntu but i want running windows exe
[13:24] <tobiasz> cutiyar install wine 1.2 from repository
[13:24] <cutiyar> tobiasz, AND I KNOW ABOUT WINE
[13:24] <tobiasz> cutiyar what's the problem then? :P
[13:25] <cutiyar> tobiasz, wine does noy work eith all exe
[13:25] <tobiasz> cutiyar with most
[13:25] <Pici> cutiyar: What is your actual question?
[13:25] <marekw2143> hi, given one app installed via apt-get, how to upgrade that app?
[13:26] <tobiasz> cutiyar you need to know what components might be required to run certain applications, best source is wine's homepage
[13:26] <daedaluz> marekw2143: sud aptitude upgrade app-name
[13:26] <cutiyar> pici , i want running exe file type with virtual if its possible i dont want wine
[13:26] <daedaluz> marekw2143: sudo, not sud
[13:26] <Pici> cutiyar: virtualbox requries that you install Windows yourself within it.  You'll need Window's installation media and a license to do so.
[13:26] <abhijit> hello :)
[13:26] <marekw2143> daedaluz: ok, thanks
[13:26] <tobiasz> cutiyar always check here http://appdb.winehq.org/ there are rating, tweaks and solutions to get programs to work
[13:26] <computer_> cutiyar,  u need virtualbox-ose package, and then u need windows xp or w/e CD and install it on the virtual box!
[13:28] <cutiyar> computer_ how to install windows in virtual ?
[13:28] <marekw2143> daedaluz: aptitute upgrade didn't work, but apt-get upgrade worked
[13:28] <Misterio> marekw2143: it's aptitude, not aptitute
[13:29] <marekw2143> Misterio: sorry, I made typo on irc, in my system I used aptitude
[13:29] <bazhang> marekw2143, that wont upgrade individual apps unless new ones are available
[13:29] <Misterio> marekw2143: oh, okay
[13:29] <bazhang> marekw2143, ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[13:29] <marekw2143> bazhang: apt-get upgrade app-name told me that it would upgrade about 160 packages
[13:29] <marekw2143> bazhang: rolling release?
[13:30] <lolzhax> hello
[13:30] <Misterio> !hi | lolzhax
[13:30] <bazhang> marekw2143, that would not upgrade a single app that you wish, just give the latest of all available upgrades; if wine came out with a new version tomorrrow, it would not be available in apt-get upgrade in a similar time frame
[13:31] <lolzhax> I just installed Xubuntu 10.04. then my harddrive corrupted and I lost all my data and my windows 7
[13:31] <marekw2143> bazhang: is it for consistency reasons?
[13:31] <Misterio> bazhang: tell me if I am correct; ubuntu doesn't update app's versions, it just add patches. App's version upgrades will come in next ubuntu version
[13:31] <bazhang> marekw2143, stability for the most part
[13:32] <lolzhax> good thing I used my flash drive to install it or else I wouldn't have an OS right now lol
[13:32] <Asad2005> When i start dansguardian with tinyproxy and firehol i can not do sereach in firefox with yahoo or google it is giving Parsing Error: undefined entity. if i stop firehol it works please help
[13:32] <marekw2143> bazhang: but if in our example wine would worked, why don't let users upgrade to newest version of it?
[13:32] <backTrack4> bye
[13:32] <daedaluz> marekw2143: go to winehq.org, look around, upgrade to latest version
[13:32] <bazhang> marekw2143, its not the way ubuntu handles software updates/upgrades. simple.
[13:32] <Misterio> marekw2143: If you would like to upgrade use its repo
[13:33]  * YankDownUnder checks channel topic again
[13:33] <jakyo> info: who wanna free shell account plz join #netcorp , Thx..
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[13:33] <SmashedHammer> needs help with Lenovo G550 running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx. The issue is that my DVD rom no longer recognizes DVD movies. Tried VLC, no go, nor does 'MoviePlayer'.
[13:33] <FloodBot4> jakyo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:34] <MaRk-I> !libdvdcss | SmashedHammer
[13:34] <SmashedHammer> Movie player gives "Could not read from resource" error
[13:35] <andril> does Wine 1.2 still have the quirks  when you remove a app?
[13:35] <bazhang> andril, ask in #winehq
[13:35] <daedaluz> SmashedHammer: problem occured suddenly or after installation?
[13:35] <SmashedHammer> after install
[13:36] <daedaluz> !libdvdcss | SmashedHammer
[13:37] <SmashedHammer> daedaluz: forgive the ignorance, but what is meant by !libdvdcss
[13:37] <daedaluz> dunno
[13:37] <DiploCat> SmashedHammer, it makes ubottu say: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:38] <bazhang> SmashedHammer, it decrypts dvd copy protection
[13:38] <SmashedHammer> thanks
[13:39] <DiploCat> SmashedHammer, if it is a new install of Ubuntu, you need to run this from the command line:  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[13:40] <JulioNeto> Hi all
[13:41] <livingdaylight> hi, anyone know where the flashplugin for Chrome is found?
[13:41] <livingdaylight> flash keeps crashing on both chrome and ff, any ideas why this could be?
[13:42] <ResQue> livingdaylight: did it work before?
[13:42] <linxeh_> livingdaylight: because flash is rubbish
[13:42] <JulioNeto> livingdaylight, is anything crashing?
[13:42] <livingdaylight> JulioNeto, yes, a lot
[13:42] <ResQue> livingdaylight: are you on 32 or 64 bit and yes flash does suck, i realy hope HTML becomes the new standard and we get rid of flash
[13:42] <JulioNeto> livingdaylight, try to use another player... like gnash
[13:42] <livingdaylight> Researcher, it did when I had openjdk. I've removed and replaced with sun-java
[13:43] <JulioNeto> and see what happens livingdaylight
[13:43] <ResQue> html 5 has some great new features
[13:43] <SmashedHammer> DiploCat: Thank you that appears to have done it
[13:43] <abhijit> !flash | livingdaylight
[13:43] <fabio> ResQue: not supported yet
[13:43] <livingdaylight> where is flashplugin for Chrome found?
[13:43] <ResQue> !Restricted
[13:43] <fabio> livingdaylight: with chrome you can use html5
[13:44] <livingdaylight> I think sun-java is the best option, so I would like to try that as paltalk extreme was crashing before
[13:44] <fabio> but cpu usage is as high as the flash
[13:44] <ResQue> i hate ogg most player dont support it, although that might be getting better, i had loads of trobble when i first head of ogg
[13:44] <ResQue> heard
[13:44] <livingdaylight> fabio, chrome says there is no java, but i did install it for sure. Maybe I just need to restart it?
[13:44] <SmashedHammer> #exit
[13:44] <figure002> hello. does anyone know a good channel for help wich C programming in linux? I already know about the channel #C.
[13:44] <smallfoot-> ResQue, Ogg is a container for video and audio
[13:44] <fabio> livingdaylight: maybe
[13:45] <fabio> the way mp4 is
[13:45] <computer_> how do i force close a program? wine is always bein unresponsive!
[13:45] <smallfoot-> figure002, #c #linux #programming, maybe on other networks too such as EFnet, Undernet, DALnet, QuakeNet
[13:45] <smallfoot-> computer_, you can kill Wine with killall wine
[13:45] <fabio> computer_: kill wineserver
[13:46] <figure002> smallfoot-: thanks, i'll try there
[13:46] <computer_> so command in terminal is "killall wine" ?
[13:46] <smallfoot-> $ killall wine wineserver
[13:46] <ResQue> smallfoot-: yes i think you are right, ogg if defo the way farward, but although most players can play whats inside the ogg container they can not understand the container it self, i could be wrong i use VLC these days, and its been a while since i played one so it could be getting better
[13:46] <rapture> I'm getting a load of fake dead pixels, any ideas what could be causing them?
[13:46] <smallfoot-> ResQue, Ogg uses Vorbis for audio and Theora for video
[13:46] <rapture> they appear in screenshots too
[13:47] <rapture> running an NVIDIA card with 173 restricted drivers
[13:47] <smallfoot-> Researcher, VLC supports Ogg. Rhythmbox supports Vorbis audio.
[13:47] <ResQue> smallfoot-:  i thought you could put any format you like inside a container?
[13:47] <fabio> smallfoot-: what about ipod sony walkman creative zen?
[13:48] <smallfoot-> ResQue, Ogg can contain many formats, but most commonly used is Theora and Vorbis
[13:48] <ResQue> fabio: the ipod might support it, you can play ogg audio on the thing i think. its been a long time since i looked into this
[13:48] <ResQue> smallfoot-: i see :-D
[13:48] <computer_> i think i am starting to like this "ubuntu" !
[13:48] <ABBADON> Hi, is there a tool for editing GRUB's device.map or do I have to do so manually?
[13:48] <fabio> not my sony walkman
[13:48] <computer_> i would LOVE it if all my games worked :/
[13:49] <smallfoot-> fabio, iPod, Sony Walkman and Creative Zen supports MP3 but not free file formats, open standards and royalty-free standards such as Ogg, Vorbis, Theora
[13:49] <computer_> cause its FREE!! lol
[13:49] <DiploCat> sony walkman definitely supports cassette
[13:49] <smallfoot-> ResQue, iPod is done by Apple who are compatibility and interoperability. They hate open standards. They want to lock you in using proprietary file formats. Apple is a strong practicer of vendor lock-in.
[13:49] <smallfoot-> fabio, iPod is done by Apple who are compatibility and interoperability. They hate open standards. They want to lock you in using proprietary file formats. Apple is a strong practicer of vendor lock-in.
[13:49] <ResQue> smallfoot-: i think the ipod can play ogg audio, becuase you can use itunes to convert it
[13:50] <fabio> i know! ... just a little ot: sony walkman kicks ipod in the ass
[13:50] <Misterio> !ot
[13:50] <smallfoot-> fabio, which is why they have their own formats, Apple have Apple Audio Codec and Sony have ATRAC-#
[13:50] <smallfoot-> ATRAC-3
[13:50] <ResQue> fabio: get your cassettes out  haha
[13:50] <DiploCat> fabio, except I hate turning the tape over every 30 mins
[13:51] <smallfoot-> iPod is overhyped, its pretty, but thats it. its not well-known for its good audio quality
[13:51] <fabio> sony walkman is the best mp3/mp4 player around
[13:51] <smallfoot-> there are many portable media players which are better than iPod
[13:51] <computer_> UBUNTU!
[13:52] <smallfoot-> mp3 players are a dying breed now with advanced mobile phones which does MP3, MP4, WMA, and both audio and video
[13:52] <rapture> Any ideas about graphical corruption creating faux dead pixels?
[13:52] <fabio> finally ubuntu has a good mtp support
[13:52] <computer_> yeah smallfoot
[13:52]  * Misterio points #ubuntu-offtopic (fabio, smallfoot-, computer_)
[13:52] <smallfoot-> no idea why they created MTP
[13:52] <smallfoot-> probably just to mess with people
[13:52] <smallfoot-> and break shit lol
[13:52] <ResQue> smallfoot-: i agree and with the new google phones and android i think there is going to be  a lot more innovation coming out way
[13:53] <smallfoot-> ya
[13:53] <JulioNeto> Is there any easy way to change GDM screen resolution? I have only found xorg.conf optitions.
[13:53] <smallfoot-> 1+ GHz ARM processors. Those android phones do HD video and gaming like Quake 3, Unreal, etc
[13:53] <smallfoot-> JulioNeto, i think xorg.conf is the way to go
[13:54] <computer_> what is a good phoen i can get where i dont have to pay extra for internet and stuff?
[13:54] <smallfoot-> JulioNeto, though Xorg should auto-detect proper good native resolution
[13:54] <JulioNeto> smallfoot-, the proper native resolution is 800*600... but it is too low and my monitor can 1024*768 pretty well
[13:54] <abhijit> !ot | computer_
[13:55] <computer_> k
[13:55] <computer_> abhijit are u indian?  i am indian too!
[13:55] <lemonade_> 9 pm
[13:55] <smallfoot-> JulioNeto, you can edit xorg.conf
[13:55] <rapture> can we help you with something, computer_?
[13:56] <Misterio> computer_: Stop please. If you want chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel
[13:56] <computer_> ok sorry bye
[13:56] <fabio> JulioNeto: did u try System-> Preferencs -> MOnitor?
[13:56] <JulioNeto> fabio, yep... it changed the system resolution... but GDM is still using 800*600
[13:57] <JulioNeto> I don't understand why
[13:57] <fabio> gdm has its own config
[13:57] <researcher1> how do I know if ubuntu is available in my mother tongue
[13:58] <easyfit> hey, I'm having some diffculty finding where I can define which window manager to use by default if the user hasn't made a choice... I'm guessing it should be in the display manager, but I can't find it anywhere in either GDM or KDM
[13:58] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! What uid would I need to use to mount drives on startup? When I tried using nousid, I can
[13:58] <econdudeawesome> t rw to the drive
[13:58] <Misterio> researcher1: What's your mother language?
[13:58] <geemee> Hi folks. I have a test ubuntu desktop with dhcp3 server installed. Works fine however it does not start at computer startup. Any ideas where to specify this?
[13:59] <researcher1> my mother tongue MARATHI Indian
[13:59] <blip99> hi, can anyone help me with a gparted error ?
[13:59] <easyfit> geemee, I think you should have a look at the "service" command
[13:59] <ABBADON> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and I've just moved my /home partition to an external USB drive.  For some reason, whenever I have it plugged in, I can't boot the system - it just hangs at GRUB stage 1.5 and I have to hard reset the computer.  I did some searching and found that it's possible that GRUB has some sort of naming conflict, so I edited device.map and restarted, but no dice.  Is it...
[13:59] <ABBADON> ...possible GRUB is re-writing device.map during the boot process?
[13:59] <blip99> researcher1: you speak indian ?
[13:59] <easyfit> or maybe actually update-rc.d
[13:59] <researcher1> Misterio my mother tongue MARATHI Indian
[13:59] <Misterio> researcher1: pff, I don't know, try LiveCD and check if it is in that tongue
[13:59] <researcher1> I talk Indian
[13:59] <terry__> Can britannica encycylopaedia installed on ubuntu?
[14:00] <blip99> researcher1: I don't
[14:00] <pumpya15> hey
[14:00] <terry__> Can britannica encycylopaedia be installed on ubuntu?
[14:00] <pumpya15> i got a question
[14:00] <researcher1> blip99: Yes I talk Indian
[14:00] <monkey_dust_> !ask| pumpya15
[14:00] <blip99> researcher1: can you type indian ?
[14:00] <ksbalaji> any help with dpkg error? I lost ubuntu on upgrading.
[14:00] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! What uid would I need to use to mount drives on startup? When I tried using nousid, I can't write to the partitions (even with the rw option)
[14:00] <pumpya15> how can i open .exe files in backtrack-linux
[14:01] <terry__> Can britannica encycylopaedia be installed on ubuntu?
[14:01] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, try dpkg-reconfigure -a
[14:01] <geemee> easyfit: OK have a list of all services running. I presume the + is for at startup and the - is disabled?
[14:01] <ABBADON> pumpya15, I'm guessing you should probably use WINE for that.  Linux doesn't natively support .exe files.
[14:01] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, have you chowned the drives? in addition to permissions man chown (or chown yourname:yourname /thedrive
[14:01] <erUSUL> !wine | pumpya15 ask further questions in #backtrack-linux
[14:01] <blip99> in dee ya
[14:01] <terry__> Can britannica encycylopaedia 2010 be installed on ubuntu?
[14:01] <mrpinky> terry__, doubtful
[14:02] <easyfit> geemee, I'm not sure, sorry, I'm not that used to ubuntu, I was really just trying to point you in the right direction
[14:02] <terry__> Any encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:02] <mrpinky> terry__, you can try installing WINE, then try double-clicking the installer
[14:02] <mrpinky> terry__, wikipedia?
[14:02] <ksbalaji> monkey_dust_, yes I tried - as I told before. It says read only files... and quits
[14:02] <terry__> Encarta?
[14:02] <erUSUL> !appdb | terry__
[14:02] <mrpinky> terry__, are you from the past?
[14:02] <researcher1> bli  I can tye Indian
[14:02] <phpgeek> hai
[14:02] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky when I did that I got an operation not allowed error
[14:02] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, sudo chown
[14:02] <terry__> yes cant forget encarta
[14:03] <handjob> Hi all. I just installed dwm. What files I need to edit in order to add some applications on startup (of X)?
[14:03] <terry__> Any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?>
[14:04] <terry__> Any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:04] <erUSUL> handjob: ~/.Xsession ? ~/.xinitrc ?
[14:04] <monkey_dust_> terry__, you could wget the brittannica site
[14:04] <terry__> What?
[14:05] <terry__> Any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:05] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky I tried through sudo, and I tried as root
[14:05] <terry__> Any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:05] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky same error both times
[14:05] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, sorry i'm stuck :(
[14:05] <Quiet_guy> hi guys
[14:05] <handjob> erUSUL: My .xinitrc points at ". /etc/X11/Xsession". Can You show me how regular .Xsession should look like?
[14:06] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky its not too bad of a problem right now--just have to press "s" at startup to skip mount error. Would like to fix completely. What usid is root? I think perhaps adding that to options in fstab would fix it
[14:06] <handjob> erUSUL: or never mind I will google that out. Thank You.
[14:06] <terry__> Any using any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:06] <terry__> Any using any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:06] <econdudeawesome> terry__ try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474444
[14:06] <ksbalaji> monkey_dust_, what command can I use from the live cd (this is knoppix) to repair my installed ubuntu? any idea please?
[14:06] <erUSUL> handjob: no problem « man Xsession » exist.
[14:07] <bazhang> terry__, dont repeat so quickly
[14:07] <econdudeawesome> terry__ first link in a google search--Ubuntu + Google == Operating Marital Bliss
[14:07] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, root uid is normally 0, but i can be anything
[14:07] <handjob> erUSUL: Sometimes I just...Thx again.
[14:07] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky where would I check? "Users and Groups"
[14:07] <phanindra> hai
[14:07] <econdudeawesome> terry__ the Wikipedia download is not that large, and has less errors than britannica or encarta
[14:08] <terry__> thanks!
[14:08] <econdudeawesome> terry__ unless you have a desperate need to have an updated account of Lindsay Lohan's exploits. It's probably a protected page
[14:08] <chris_osx> terry__: are you sure you are looking for any offline encyclopaedia for ubuntu?
[14:08] <econdudeawesome> terry__ but if that's the case, you need the internet to stay current :-D
[14:08] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, try backing up your ubuntu, then remove and reinstall it and put your backed up files back
[14:08] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, cat /etc/passwd will list users and ids
[14:09] <econdudeawesome> mrpinky it's under the group id's too--0 is right for plain vanilla ubuntu install
[14:10] <monkey_dust_> econdudeawesome, i looove lindsyay lohan
[14:11] <ksbalaji> monkey_dust_, I was upgrading when powercut spoiled everything. Now, is it possible to reinstall an upgrade? I feel it only can be repaired.??
[14:11] <Quiet_guy> how do i join other servers with xchat?
[14:11] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, try to install the newer version, then
[14:11] <econdudeawesome> monkey_dust I don't, but I couldn't think of anybody else's name I'd heard in the news recently
[14:12] <Lantizia> Can anyone remember that project that lets you run the linux kernel as a service on windows?  And thus Ubuntu?
[14:12] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, upgrading the OS, or just some packages?
[14:12] <econdudeawesome> monkey_dust and singling out Obama gets old ;)
[14:12] <Lantizia> nevermind - already remembered
[14:12] <ksbalaji> I was upgrading from 8.04 to 9.10. Infact, I wanted to upgrade again to 10.4
[14:12] <monkey_dust_> !ot| Quiet_guy
[14:13] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: you could have done 8.04 --> 10.04 being both LTS this upgrade is supported
[14:13] <monkey_dust_> ksbalaji, then my advice is to install the newer version, after you backed up important documents
[14:13] <econdudeawesome> Anyone know how to add root to a user/group? I'd like to do something with both root and the main admin account without adding the main admin account to "root" group
[14:14] <abhijit> monkey_dust_, for any xchat question redirect users to channel #xchat
[14:14] <ksbalaji> Yeah. I was searching for that. But the upgrade app showed only 9.10 to upgrade.
[14:14] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: I suppose a repair upgrade could be doable, I never faced a power cut. Depending on your partitioning it could ba as "simple" as installing 10.04 directly instead of dealing with a broken upgrade, methinks.
[14:14] <monkey_dust_> didn't know that one, abhijit
[14:14] <artinstartin> hi, I used KleanSweep with sudo rights, only "useless thumbnails" function, and now kde has a problem. Can I fix the whole system from a usb stick somehow?
[14:14] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: root does not need to be on any group. and we do not support an enabled root account
[14:14] <econdudeawesome> Quiet_guy although it shows up in logs and people here longer than me don't like to give that kind of advice, in xchat "/connect <server>" works fine
[14:14] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL so not my question at all
[14:15] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL do you support editing fstab?
[14:15] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, performing that action as root will produce the same result as performing it from your user account with sudo
[14:15] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, You sound very reasonable. Unfortunately, I do not have a 10.04 installable dvd.
[14:15] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: yes
[14:16] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, there's also a gui tool in the system menu that wraps up the fstab editing for you :D
[14:16] <ABBADON> Can anyone help me with a booting issue?
[14:16] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, further, all upgrade for 9.10 was already done.  Awsome erUSUL. I am trying to get my partitions to mount in a writable way. Adding "rw" to fstab didn't work, chown gives an operation not allowed error. The only thing that works is setting the usid in fstab to my user account, but then at login I have to skip mounting. Can I add another usid to the fstab line?
[14:16] <mrpinky> econdudeawesome, system -> administration -> disk utility
[14:16] <omkar> hey guys
[14:17] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: ... Darn. Talk about misfortune! What's your box's status at the moment?
[14:17] <omkar> I am planning to install gnome 2.28.2 on kubuntu
[14:17] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: show us the fstab line that is giving problems. tell us what type of fileystem you are mounting
[14:17] <omkar> for some reason I have downloaded the tarball for gnome 2.28.2
[14:17] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL two of them:
[14:17] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, the downloads were over. unpacking done and midway configuring, dpkg failed.- pwr failed.
[14:17] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL: /dev/sdb1	/mount/storage-backup	ext4	auto,user,rw,uid=1000	0 0
[14:17] <econdudeawesome> /dev/sda1	/mount/storage		vfat	auto,user,rw,uid=1000	0 0
[14:17] <dave> e
[14:18] <omkar> n while configuring it said to install a  gnome-doc-utils >= 0.3.2
[14:18] <poncho> hi
[14:18] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: the first one is wrong. ext4 does not support uid option
[14:18] <omkar> test
[14:18] <deepk> Well behaving dual-boot Ubuntu 9.10 (with Windows Vista) suddenly stopped recognizing Keyboard. Windows Vista recognizes it. What might cause it?
[14:18] <giaco> hello
[14:18] <Jinxed-> What is a simple/good ftp server to use with Ubuntu?
[14:18] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, yeah. misfortune. I searched and found this knoppix livecd and am contacting using this! after 3 years of ubuntu!
[14:19] <giaco> I've just installed ubuntu netbook edition, I want to switch to italian language but it seems that the usual configuration panel is not working
[14:19] <poncho> i want to install google earth last time only the splash screen came up
[14:19] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL what do I need to do then to make it writable
[14:19] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: so put just "defaults,user" as options
[14:19] <giaco> It's still in english
[14:19] <poncho> should i try older version
[14:19] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL I'll give it a shot
[14:19] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: set up correct permissions
[14:19] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL how do I do that
[14:20] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: you either mount it in amount point where you can writte or you make dirs inside the filesystem where you can writte
[14:20] <erUSUL> !addingfs | econdudeawesome
[14:20] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, the only other livecd for ubuntu I have is an old gutsy.
[14:20] <erUSUL> !permissions | econdudeawesome
[14:20] <econdudeawesome> !permissions
[14:20] <econdudeawesome> !fstab
[14:20] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: the vfat paritrion does support uid i also recommend to put a liberal mask in it
[14:20] <erUSUL> !ntfs | econdudeawesome
[14:20] <Guest80079> I am trying to burn an iso image to a blank dvd in ubuntu desktop 10.04 64 bit. I right click on image file and choose: write to disk. But my blank dvd is not recognized, Message says: install a supported disk. It is a dvd-r 1-16x 4.7 g; can anyone help or tell me what I am doing wrong?
[14:21] <poncho> hmm
[14:21] <poncho> boring
[14:22] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: can you access your data? I would suggest backing it all to an USB stick, download the 10.04 iso, place it on an USB stick, boot from the USB stick, and then restore your data. From here it sounds like the best alternative for you at this time. I assume that you tried to boot your box and that it is in an unusable state.
[14:22] <ABBADON> Hi, I'm having a problem booting Ubuntu 10.04 after moving my /home partition to a USB hard drive - has anyone else had this issue?
[14:23] <econdudeawesome> erUSUL what does a liberal mask do
[14:23] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: umask=0000 makes all files in the partiton accessible by anyone
[14:23] <jrib> !ftpd | Jinxed-
[14:23] <razz1> is there anyway to make the sound output louder, my laptop speakers sound a bit louder in windows but really low under ubuntu. any way to make them louder
[14:23] <artinstartin> Is there a command to auto-fix the "registry" or a general system repair command?
[14:23] <erUSUL> econdudeawesome: uid guid umask and all that options are only supported by vfat
[14:24] <Guest80079> cmpsalvestrini: I am trying to burn an iso image to a blank dvd in ubuntu desktop 10.04 64 bit. I right click on image file and choose: write to disk. But my blank dvd is not recognized, Message says: install a supported disk. It is a dvd-r 1-16x 4.7 g; can anyone help or tell me what I am doing wrong?
[14:24] <jrib> artinstartin: ubuntu doesn't have a registry.  What problem are you experiencing?
[14:24]  * erUSUL thinks of gconf
[14:24] <econdudeawesome> I'll be back to test :-)
[14:25] <Zeus__> Hello! Am I going to have any problems if I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop keeping the partition of the Home folder of 10.04 untouched?
[14:25] <jrib> Zeus__: 10.10 is still being developed, so yes, probably
[14:25] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, though the upgrade failed, as a consolation, the recovery mode works for the previous kernel. Otherwise, the data partitioning etc seem to be intact in the hdd.
[14:25] <abhijit> !10.10 | Zeus__
[14:25] <bazhang> Zeus__, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:26] <Zeus__> thank you all!!
[14:26] <artinstartin> jrib: I was running KleanSweep in sudo and now there is a kde problem but everything work (just no internet) also on start up it says cannot mount home, when i wsant to start in recovery mode. then also when i boot, it says problems mounting home, press s for skip,
[14:26] <jrib> artinstartin: what is kleansweep?
[14:26] <ksbalaji> cmpsalvestrini, But, I am no good with linux commands. especially those related with upgrade repair work!
[14:26] <artinstartin> jrib: a tool to delete unused files, or dead links
[14:27] <jrib> artinstartin: you need to figure out why you can't mount home
[14:27] <bugs_bugger> hey guys. anybody know what to do? i had trouble uninstalling the ubuntuzilla thunderbird-build. postremoval-script had an error. fixed the related line in the script, uninstalled it. now, when i install the ubuntu build of thunderbird, its being showed in synaptict as installed, but i cant execute it (file not found) and apt-get in the terminal states, its currently not instaled
[14:27] <cmpsalvestrini> ksbalaji: have you tried the recovery mode? My solution is quite... radical, so to speak, so I'd like to keep it as a last resort in case everything else fails.
[14:27] <artinstartin> jrib: oh now
[14:27] <artinstartin> jrib: oh no
[14:28] <Ejdesgaard_> hi, i have compiled the latest kernel with yes '' | make oldconfig, rebooted and then tried to reinstall the ati driver for my HD3300... but i get the following: http://dpaste.org/Uxhw/
[14:28] <artinstartin> jrib: i have ubuntu on a usb stick, do you see any chance?