[17:55] <Escherial> for instance, under "Distribution Updates", i have "enterprise search server based on Lucene - common files" and the same thing, but for "Tomcat integration"; i can't even check them to download them, but they're there in the list
[17:55] <wylde> !torrent | ScoutUk
[17:55] <DasEi> wylde: I guess the win sys contains no sensitive data, then try to enable windows sharing and just access this from ubuntu (aka networkprinter?)
[17:55] <ScoutUk> Thanks wylde
[17:55] <DasEi> wylde: for sure that can be found in vm's FAQ
[17:56] <cypher-neo> ScoutUk, Magnet links work like web links, you just right-click them and click Copy Link. Just make sure the software you use can support magnet links.
[17:56] <angels> join/ #ubuntu-beginners
[17:56] <DasEi> angels: /' ...
[17:56] <wylde> DasEi: the actual directory is on the ubuntu /home/directory of the user that runs the vm.
[17:57] <cypher-neo> wylde, You need to add FatRat to the !torrent list on ubottu. I find FatRat to be the best torrent program I've ever used!
[17:57] <angels> DasEi how does it go?
[17:57] <rsumi> hi i'm trying to update to ubuntu 12.04 from 11.10 but i keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/YQnayNab
[17:57] <hechu> hi, is there anybody interesting in a M$ office clone (deep compatible with M$) in Ubuntu Linux ? it is not open source, but free. produced by a Chinese company.
[17:57] <wylde> DasEi: I'm just trying to determine if mounting the /home partition on nbd will leave me open to data corruption rpoblems if nbd clients get un-intentionally disconnected.
[17:57] <DasEi> wylde: and you want to access this printer from other machines in your local network ? so just need a hole in the vm then, if host also is 'buntu
[17:59] <appi_uppi> when is ubuntu 12.04 LTS going to release ?
[17:59] <DasEi> wylde: can't tell, as I'm in other things right now, but why complicated ? network printing is secured from breachs, so all you need is to acces the printer from the vm-host
[17:59] <auronandace> 26th
[17:59] <angels> how do i join another channel?
[18:00] <DasEi> !precise
[18:00] <DasEi> angels: see above /j #ubuntu-beginners
[18:01] <wylde> DasEi: the windows vm has no access beyond the "shared" folder in VirtualBox. I understand what you're saying.  I just don't want to leave myself with problems if I go ahead and use the nbd server. ..I'll do some more searching, (I have no windows machines at all beyond the VM so I have no need for samba)
[18:01] <appi_uppi> hmm
[18:01] <silvia> ciao
[18:01] <silvia> !List
[18:01] <wylde> DasEi: thank you for your input though! :)
[18:01] <DasEi> wylde: which is used, vbox ?
[18:03] <wylde> DasEi: yep, and the windows VM is stripped out in a big way. The ONLY thing it does is watch the shared folder and print the files dropped into it. (client machines print directly to pdf and drop the files in the "print" folder)
[18:04] <DasEi> wylde: I'm pretty sure that sharing a printer is mentioned in the FAQs of vbox-homepage, else there is #vbox, and printersharing beetween ubumachines.. someone playing with ldap will know that :)
[18:04] <wylde> DasEi: right now I'm handlig that through the web server with a php script for uploading the pdf files.
[18:08] <eldereko_> is it possible to install ubuntu on a single file loop device?
[18:09] <DasEi> eldereko_: you can mount an iso by grub, yes
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> what's a single file loop device?
[18:10] <DasEi> !iso
[18:11] <eldereko_> DasEi: what im trying to do is a full install to a file on a windows partition, similar to wubi but without modifying the bootloader and being able to go through the normal installer
[18:11] <boutell> Trying to use add-apt-repository, I get this: ImportError: /opt/PostgresPlus/9.0SS/psqlODBC/lib/libk5crypto.so.3: symbol krb5int_labeled_open, version krb5support_0_MIT not defined in file libkrb5support.so.0 with link time reference
[18:12] <DasEi> !remastersys | eldereko_, but mind no modification after, it's like live-cd then
[18:12] <wylde> MonkeyDust: it's a file that contains an entire filesystem.  It's not ubuntu's problem. Never mind heh
[18:12] <DasEi> eldereko_: else use :
[18:12] <DasEi> !vm
[18:12] <hispeed88> where can I download the official iso file for kubuntu live cd? i just find the bittorrent file -> http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/11.10/release/ <- are they ok?
[18:13] <OerHeks> hispeed88, sure
[18:13] <DasEi> eldereko_: or a persistant usb-install, but that's not the filethingy you in first hand wanted
[18:13] <eldereko_> no i dont want it to be a live cd... essentially i want what wubi does but without modifying the mbr
[18:14] <DasEi> eldereko_: vm will be closest, then
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> eldereko_  there's and-linux
[18:14] <__Grabarz__> Hi there! I have a question about Qt library. Does anybody know if there are repository for Qt 4.8? This version was released some time ago but it is not applied to repo.
[18:14] <riex> Hello. I have just installed mysql on my ubuntu server, but when I am typing "mysql" and trying to connect to the mysql service, i got this error: "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" How do i fix that issue?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> eldereko_  this, but it is not supported here http://www.andlinux.org/
[18:16] <__Grabarz__> riex, did you try type:
[18:16] <__Grabarz__> mysql -u root -p
[18:16] <__Grabarz__> ?
[18:16] <mcb_> riex: use $mysql -p It will ask you for your password.
[18:16] <riex> __Grabarz__,: When i am using mysql -u root -p i can connect without problems.
[18:17] <riex> but if i log out again, and type "mysql"
[18:17] <riex> i got the same issue again.
[18:17] <DasEi> riex: can give you a german link, code is same, it's just to explain about a file setup , want it ?
[18:17] <lykwydchykyn> __Grabarz__: I believe the kubuntu ppas have it.  I am running, 4.8 on my machine, and I'm sure that's where I got it.
[18:17] <eldereko_> i dont want to run windows at all... but its a work computer so i cant re-partition and blow away windows
[18:17] <riex> Yes thank you
[18:18] <hispeed88> OerHeks hmm I have a 32 bit machine intel so i need: http://swtsrv.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu-dvd-release/11.10/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso <- for stable version? but there is no 700 MB CD?
[18:18] <ZenMaster> I now I asked this earlier. But I need to do name resolution vrs having an ip in a web browser on a local intranet.
[18:18] <ZenMaster> NMBD can handle that?
[18:18] <ZenMaster> To access a local corporate intranet website.
[18:18] <__Grabarz__> So I will try to search for it.
[18:18] <DasEi> http://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/15031/error-1045-28000.html ,riex
[18:18] <wylde> eldereko_: get yourself a portable usb drive to install to, and setup the bios to boot the usb drive?
[18:18] <MrWobz> is there a seperate irc for ubuntuserver  ?
[18:19] <Pici> MrWobz: Theres #ubuntu-server as well.
[18:19] <MrWobz> Pici thanks
[18:19] <DasEi> riex: mind mysql-pass is not rootpass, usually one sets it when installing mysql, but easy to re-set
[18:19] <tanerdogan> hi there, i just installed fubuntu. is there anyone can tell me how can i install LAMP?
[18:20] <OerHeks> hispeed88, is usually get the torrents from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ also 699 iso available.
[18:20] <eldereko_> wylde: thats an option, but i really wanted the installation contained in a virtual hard disk file on the windows drive... basically not possible?
[18:20] <DasEi> !pm | riex
[18:21] <obscurant1st> Is there anyone who could provide some info about connecting a hdmi monitor to my leptop with nvidia+intel cards? I mean with optimus technology.
[18:21] <angels> is there a way to turn off the joined and quit notifications in this room?
[18:21] <Atlantic777> angels: what irc client do you use?
[18:21] <K1rk|Work> angels: That would be a feature of your IRC client, not of the channel.
[18:21] <wylde> eldereko_: I doubt it, you'd have to install grub somewhere, ..I'm not familiar with wubi, I never used it. Can you choose where to put the bootloader with wubi? If so, do a wubi install and install grub to a usb pendrive and boot from that?
[18:21] <MrWobz> Hello I have a problem, hdparm -tT displays BOTH drives as running reaaaally slow, Ive switched raid controllers and now I dont know what to do
[18:22] <wylde> eldereko_: that wouldn't touch the windows bootloader at all that way.
[18:22] <DasEi> obscurant1st: the nvidia has hdmi, too ?
[18:22] <angels> Atlantic777 and K1rk|Work - freenode. It is web based and the only one I know. Is there a better one?
[18:23] <K1rk|Work> angels: There's a ton of IRC clients... I personally like xchat, konversation, and irssi.
[18:23] <Atlantic777> !xchat | angels
[18:23] <hispeed88> OerHeks so i just have to configure my torrent... :(
[18:23] <Atlantic777> angels: see xchat and irssi
[18:23] <rainerborene> I'm using irssi. Weechat is better?
[18:23] <Atlantic777> rainerborene: depends on the user. :)
[18:23] <DasEi> highspeed88: if you look around ubuntu.com, there's a bunch of mirrors, torrents, whatever
[18:24] <MrWobz> I like quassel
[18:24] <OerHeks> hispeed88, do you want a direct download kubuntu 11.10 699 mb ?
[18:24] <DasEi> torrent is nice for fault-correction, don't forget to hash :
[18:24] <DasEi> !md5sum
[18:24] <OerHeks> hispeed88, http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/oneiric/
[18:25] <hispeed88> yes OerHeks :) or ftp doesn't matter if possible otherwise i have to configure tomorrow 2 hours and restart my network ^^
[18:25] <obscurant1st> DasEi, how Can I know that? Is there any command? I mean my laptop has only one hdmi port!
[18:25] <MrWobz> or if you download the iso via ftp/http and use a download manager like downthemall it has built in md5 checks and much faster than torrent
[18:25] <eldereko_> wylde: wubi unfortunately doesnt give the option where to instal grub, it defaults to modify the windows bootloader... i would like to have grub installed on a thumbdrive to boot
[18:25] <rainerborene> Atlantic777: You're right. I will try both.
[18:25] <L3top_> Does anyone know what happened to Xorg -scanpci? Or if there is an alternative that produces the proper format for xorg.conf? I do not wish to convert hex to decimal and then format
[18:26] <DasEi> obscurant1st: well, possibly you swith in bios then, use the nvidia, get the offical displaymanager, should be easiest
[18:26] <guntbert> angels: in webchat click on the icon top left (with the arrow), select options, there you will find "hide...."
[18:26] <DasEi> L3top_: you can use /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log for modlines
[18:26] <codeslinger> when I install a new server with solar flare card (sec driver) the udev persistent rules are missing one of the two ports
[18:27] <L3top_> I just need the pci bus.
[18:27] <wylde> eldereko_: aww, that's shame... hmmm, gimme a sec.
[18:27] <rainerborene> y
[18:27] <obscurant1st> DasEi, there is no option for switching it in bios! :(
[18:27] <codeslinger> what is the most generic way to fix that? the ethernet port came up as rename2
[18:27] <hispeed88> OerHeks i'm now downloading :=)
[18:28] <L3top_> for dual gpu setups, I must specify the appropriate card, and getting it from lspci I have to split it up, convert it with bc, reformat it and get rid of numbers sometimes... and... I just want exactly what Xorg -scanpci used to do.
[18:29] <codeslinger> I know I can hack the 70-persistent-net.rules file but that is very specific
[18:29] <wylde> eldereko_: beyond wubi I can't think of any (easy) way to do what you want. For now the best I can suggest it running ubuntu as a guest OS in vbox, or using the eternal usb drive I suggested.
[18:29] <codeslinger> L3top_: so you use the gnu also for display, not just computation?
[18:29] <DasEi> obscurant1st: well, ask by telling which model you use on how to install nv-propitarydriver and see what the gui can do for you, sudo apt-get install hwinfo pastebinit && sudo hwinfo | pastebinit gives additional clues, I need a break now
[18:29] <L3top_> yes
[18:29] <L3top_> PCI:0:2:0 for instance
[18:29] <codeslinger> doesn't the nvidia-installer do the xconfig for you?
[18:30] <eldereko_> wylde: ok thanks man... i will have to go with the external usb option
[18:30] <L3top_> I do installs with nvidia, ati, intel, via
[18:30] <obscurant1st> DasEi, I have an optimus technology laptop and I have installed bumblebee.
[18:30] <L3top_> I am simply subverting the integrated if more than one gpu is present
[18:30] <wylde> eldereko_: I'm far from an expert, I'm not it isn't possible, I just don't know how you would go about it. :)
[18:30] <wylde> *not saying*
[18:31] <obscurant1st> DasEi, I will pastebin it in a few sec
[18:31]  * avatargz
[18:31] <L3top_> we generate our own xorg.conf from scratch
[18:31] <source> hi
[18:35] <daftykins> !precise
[18:35] <obscurant1st> This is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/938689/
[18:36] <tom95> I tried installing ubuntu12.04 and 11.10 multiple times on a dual booting machine with windows, but grub never starts. Instead windows always boots directly, no sign of grub. Do you have an idea what could have gone wrong?
[18:37] <L3top_> If you installed windows after linux, your MBR was overwritten by windows tom95
[18:37] <tom95> L3top_: no, windows was already installed
[18:38] <obscurant1st> L3top_, and how do we do that?
[18:38] <Guest88274> tom95, try installing Linux and in the partition phase select advanced and indicate the hard drive to install the grub
[18:38] <SnF00> I'm planning on running Ubuntu using virtualbox on my laptop that has 8gb of RAM and an i5-2540m, will this be alright or am I gonna have serious performance/battery issues?
[18:38] <tom95> Guest88274: I did
[18:38] <bazhang> SnF00, why so much ram for a vbox
[18:39] <L3top_> I have never encountered that. All I can assume is that grub was written to a non boot partition.
[18:39] <Guest88274> SnF00, I install Precise Pangolin in the same procesor but 4Gb RAM, and works like a charm, with graphic effects and everithing
[18:39] <SnF00> I don't think I'd dedicate all 8gb to the vbox
[18:40] <tom95> L3top_: I heard about those bios problem forbidding grub to boot and I have a graphicall bios... could it be caused by this?
[18:40] <bazhang> SnF00, ok, misunderstood you then
[18:40] <bazhang> SnF00, that vbox will run very well on such a system
[18:41] <SnF00> Okay, great. Thanks for the answers.
[18:41] <L3top_> As I said, I have never encountered it... but I tend to avoid dual booting in general... sorry tom95
[18:41] <tom95> L3top_: ok, thanks anyway
[18:41] <bazhang> SnF00, there is also a channel #vbox for much  more technical questions
[18:41] <tom95> L3top_: is there maybe a grub channel?
[18:41] <angels> guntbert ubottu - thanks
[18:42] <bazhang> tom95, there is
[18:42] <McMillan> hello
[18:42] <troubled> enthdegree: oh btw, got it working fine after installing xubuntu-desktop, my LVs in thunar that is. thanks again though :)
[18:42] <SnF00> Alright, I'll make sure to use that channel when I doubtlessly mess something up
[18:42] <angels> Atlantic777 and K1rk|Work - thanks I will try them after installing Linux to HD
[18:42] <bazhang> tom95, you can use alis to search for channel s on freenode by the way: /msg alis list *term* will return a list if they exist
[18:43] <guntbert> angels: you're welcome :-) but really consider using a "real" client - that was what ubottu (she is a bot :-)) sent you
[18:43] <bazhang> SnF00, asking here is ok too, but they are undoubtedly more knowledgeable on the finer points of virtualbox
[18:44] <angels> guntbert - she listed freenode? that's what I'm on
[18:44] <brun0l3z> Hey people, i am downloading teamviewer to help a friend who runs Win 7 and i am wondering how i could do it ;so that it will last like for 5 hours
[18:44] <angels> Why when I go thru the Linux installer, why is an error telling me I need to make a Root?
[18:44] <guntbert> !xchat | angels: no I was referring to
[18:45] <MrWobz> angels a root partiton is like a c drive for windows
[18:45] <ldiamond> In Oneric, how do I add stuff to the panel in Unity (like CPU usage applet, Memory usage applet, etc)?
[18:45] <brun0l3z>  Hey people, i am downloading teamviewer to help a friend who runs Win 7 and i am wondering how i could do it ;so that it will last like for 5 hours because the last time we did it it lasted for only 15  minutes
[18:45] <Guest48766> mint user here, sorry to bug you guys, but I'm having some trouble with xchat and connecting to the mint server
[18:46] <angels> MrWobz - I used GParted to create GPT table, then 400GB ext4 (out of total 1TB). Is there another step I'm missing?
[18:46] <ldiamond> Guest48766, the mint server is useless anyways.
[18:46] <DasEi> ldiamond: lm-sensors and sensores-applet
[18:46] <brun0l3z> any body please help
[18:47] <DasEi> sensors*
[18:47] <xissburg> why does sudo mv -f file1 blah/file1 won't work?
[18:47] <Guest48766> ldiamond, what do you mean?
[18:47] <Guest48766> what's an alternative?
[18:47] <ldiamond> DasEi, How do I add the sensor applet in Unity? I know how to do it with gnome panel, but unity is so not user-friendly
[18:47] <ldiamond> Guest48766, none that I know of.
[18:48] <MrWobz> angels how much ram do you have ? linux used to have 3 partitions a lot... one for storage (docs etc)  one for swap ( like windows pagefile) and one for os
[18:48] <DasEi> ldiamond: secon, I'll try , not using unity either, might take a coup of tea
[18:48] <Guest48766> ldiamond, thanks
[18:48] <MrWobz> angels if you have plently of ram then just make one root partition... all of your stuff will be stored in /home/username/here
[18:49] <ldiamond> DasEi, even in 12.04 w/ gnome-panel, I couldn't figure out how to add it...
[18:49] <ldiamond> I always wonder why they took off all these functionalities
[18:49] <angels> MrWobz - i am running 8GB. How do I create a root partition... from GParted or the Installer?
[18:50] <ldiamond> angels, the root partition is created during the install
[18:50] <DasEi> ldiamond: right-click on panel, add.. but must have run sensors-detect beorehand and added modules, just some minutes, vm booting up
[18:50] <LUEshi> echo
[18:50] <MrElendig> angels: seperate /home is strongly encuraged
[18:50] <MrElendig> encouraged*
[18:50] <codeslinger> After an installation of ubuntu it has both ports of the onboard nics correctly in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  but the dual port 10G solar flare card has only one of the two ports in it, and so the other one comes up as 'rename2'. I tried to fix it by removing that file and rebooting, and now they are all 4 in there but in the wrong order (onboard0, 10g0, onboard1, 10g1)
[18:50] <DasEi> pong LUEshi
[18:50] <ldiamond> angels, do what MrElendig said.
[18:51] <salmiak> Are there a way to make firefox ignore all redirects to a certain web address?  So all other redirects work, but when my stupid zyxelmodem pushes in its http://<IP_ADDRESS>/zCfgTryAgain.html (that kills the address I opened) it will just ignore it?
[18:51] <MrElendig> angels: less chance of losing all your data if something goes wrong, also much easier to handle reinstalls etc
[18:51] <ldiamond> that allows you to easily reinstall and keep all your home untouched
[18:51] <codeslinger> is there a way to predetermine at least the driver with /etc/modprobe.conf like we would in centos so that it comes out as onboard0, onboard1, 10g0, 10g1 being eth0,eth1,eth2 and eth3?
[18:51] <angels> ldiamond MrElendig - I am in the Installer. It won't let me go forward. Says missing root. Need to create one from Partition menu... I don't see one
[18:51] <MrElendig> salmiak: try setting your dns to your real dns instead of your router
[18:51] <ldiamond> angels, you have to select a partition and mark it as '/'
[18:51] <MrWobz> angels make a partition with /
[18:51] <codeslinger> or do I have to create script magic to add the missing one in there myself?
[18:51] <DasEi> ldiamond: or simply try what happens if you in gnome and then switch surface to unity
[18:52] <DasEi> install in gnome**
[18:52] <MrElendig> angels: what is your existing layout, and do you have data you want to keep on any of the partitions?
[18:52] <ldiamond> DasEi, can't right click on the panels in Unity, doesn't do anything for me
[18:52] <MrWobz> Hello I have a problem, hdparm -tT displays all my drives as running reaaaally slow, Ive switched raid controllers and now I dont know what to do..
[18:52] <MrWobz> as its still the same :-/
[18:52] <DasEi> ldiamond: log into gnome, I can sow you there, may that integrates in unity, too
[18:53] <ldiamond> DasEi, what do you mean?
[18:53] <ClientAlive> what is ubuntu server like? Does it have a full blown desktop environment or is it cli only?
[18:53] <DasEi> MrWobz: try other parameters of hdparm (carefull!) to see things like dma, modes, whatever
[18:53] <ldiamond> ClientAlive, CLI only
[18:53] <salmiak> MrElendig: how do I that? set the dns to something but still have the network settings on dhcp
[18:53] <ClientAlive> perfect
[18:53] <ldiamond> ClientAlive, you can install the desktop environment though
[18:54] <angels> MrElendig ldiamond - it is a blank 1TB. I formatted 400GB to ext4, which is sitting in the middle of the drive.  I need to mark the 400GB partition with / from which program?
[18:54] <ldiamond> ClientAlive, turns it into desktop :s
[18:54] <ClientAlive> I could install awesome window manager then eh?
[18:54] <troubled> hmm, my kde/qt apps all seem to have microscopic fonts now since upgrading to 11.10. i tried make it to the font config for kde, but it too unreadable to use. removing ~/.kde didn't help either. ideas?
[18:54] <DasEi> ldiamond: switch to classic gnome, install there and see if it occurs in unity, too then
[18:54] <troubled> i needs my k3b and friends! :)
[18:54] <ldiamond> DasEi, I'll give it a shot
[18:54] <MrElendig> angels: if it is totally blank then I suggests this:
[18:54] <ClientAlive> ldiamond: do you happen to know if it can install to efi?
[18:54] <ldiamond> DasEi, however that would be the most awful user interface....\
[18:54] <salmiak> salmiak: I'm using ubuntu10.04LTS btw
[18:55] <Guest48766> I'm trying to learn bash scripting and i'm trying to run a simple hello world, but I get no display. named the file .sh and ran as executable
[18:55] <MrElendig> angels: 100 mb /boot, 20gb /, 2xram swap and the rest for /home
[18:55] <ldiamond> ClientAlive, no idea
[18:55] <ClientAlive> ok
[18:55] <ClientAlive> thx man
[18:55] <MrElendig> angels: asuming you are not going to dualboot anything on that disk
[18:55] <DasEi> ldiamond: I like ubuntu and gdm in debian for me, too
[18:55] <MrWobz> I prefur classic gnome over unity... :-/ but then I prefur lxde over all so
[18:55] <MrElendig> angels: and use gpt :)
[18:55] <DasEi> ldiamond: lubuntu even
[18:55] <ldiamond> Guest48766, does your file start with #!/bin/bash ?
[18:55] <guntbert> Guest48766: ask in #bash please
[18:55] <Guest48766> ldiamond yeah
[18:56] <ldiamond> DasEi, my current install is from xubuntu, I didn't like so installed gnome.
[18:56] <Guest48766> guntbert, how do i get there
[18:56] <angels> MrElendig - I can dual boot 2 Linux (or Windows & Linux) at same time? I was told that's not possible
[18:56] <DasEi> ldiamond: same way for xubu as in gnome
[18:56] <guntbert> Guest48766: /join #bash
[18:56] <MrElendig> angels: you can have a menu to choose which to boot at start
[18:56] <MrElendig> angels: you can't really run both at the same time
[18:57] <angels> MrElendig - where am I supposed to put in those items you mentioned?
[18:57] <obiwan_> hi, please does anyone have a pci-e usb 3.0 card installed? i'm trying to find out why my pci-e isn't detected. it's weird because the leds of the usb sticks i attach to it flash like when they're being read, but the os doesn't recognize them. tried comparing lspci outputs before and after removing the card, and i get the same output.
[18:57] <MrElendig> angels: btw if you are going to install windows on the disk, do that first
[18:57] <Guest48766> guntbert, sry not fallowing noob
[18:57] <MrElendig> angels: and just leave some unpartitioned space to install ubuntu on
[18:57] <obiwan_> if anyone with a pci-e usb 3.0 card could paste me their lspci that would be of help thanks
[18:57] <Guest48766> guntbert, thanks i got it
[18:57] <DasEi> obiwan_: try hwinfo, finer grained, maybe gnome-devicemanager
[18:58] <obiwan_> kk thanks DasEi
[18:58] <angels> MrElendig - my only concern is a Windows trojan/rootkit crossing over to Linux on the drive... that is not possible is it, even if the Windows drive is mounted?
[18:58] <hispeed88> juppiii burning kubuntu :=) on cd
[18:58] <MrElendig> angels: a trojan written for windows would not run on gnu/linux
[18:58] <ClientAlive> Has anyone heard of running kvm on ubuntu server?
[18:58] <ProfessorBacon> hey what happened to the "about ubuntu" application?  i think i'm on the most recent (non-beta) version but i never both committing the version number to memory.  help?
[18:58] <MrElendig> ClientAlive: yes
[18:58] <DasEi> ClientAlive: in terms of what ?
[18:59] <ClientAlive> it's perfect!!  lol
[18:59] <ldiamond> DasEi, if I add in gnome classic it doesn't display in Unity.
[18:59] <ldiamond> DasEi, the Unity panel is 100% useless.
[18:59] <angels> MrElendig - so I should use GParted again to add an NFTS partition first?
[18:59] <DasEi> ldiamond: I'm overasked then, but others might know, I ask the goo-fu
[18:59] <MrElendig> angels: no
[18:59] <ClientAlive> I've had a lot of probs getting a minimal system on my new box. Been 2 mos fiddling around w/ the darn thing. I need a minimal host to run kvm and then run virt guests for everything
[19:00] <trism> ldiamond: there is indicator-multiload which you can use in unity (and gnome-panel with indicator-applet)
[19:00] <MrElendig> angels: if you are going to have windows on the same disk, just run the windows installer first, and just give it 100gb or whatever you need for apps+games
[19:00] <MrElendig> angels: leave the rest of the space as unpartitioned
[19:00] <MrWobz> ClientAlive I run a kvm + 12 guest setup
[19:00] <DasEi> ldiamond: does apt-cache search indicator-sensors gives an output ?
[19:01] <FKIRE02> hey there can anyone help me with my usb wireless adapter please? I'm running Backtrack 5, based on Natty I think and my adapter stopped working after putting it on monitor mode.. now I just see that lsusb sees it and rfkill as well. When trying ifconfig or iwconfig, it just blocks. I have the firmware and lsusb seems to be accurate about them. What could be the problem?
[19:01] <guntbert> !backtrack | FKIRE02
[19:01] <bazhang> FKIRE02, ask in backtrack support
[19:01] <ldiamond> DasEi, nop
[19:01] <angels> actually i already have Win7 installed on a separate 80GB drive, so I don't think I'll need to put it on this 1TB. I may want to compare Ubuntu, Kubuntu, & Fedora, though
[19:01] <bazhang> FKIRE02, /join #backtrack-linux
[19:02] <FKIRE02> oh thank you :)
[19:02] <Mathuin> I tried to join #wine to ask questions about wine.  Got booted immediately since it's invite-only.  Where should I go to ask a question about using Wine?
[19:02] <ldiamond> DasEi, I guess I'll wait for 12.04 to be released and try to get it working then.
[19:02] <DasEi> ldiamond: there is something around Hardware Sensors Indicator, ask again for one of the unity fans
[19:02] <Pici> Mathuin: their channel is #winehq
[19:02] <Mathuin> Thanks!
[19:02] <angels> I actually like Kubuntu better, but I want to be able to get paid support (Ubuntu, Red Hat) as a newbie
[19:03] <DasEi> angels: nice, but in first hand no need for it, there are plenty of help-sources
[19:03] <troubled> any ideas what package(s) might control or affect kde/qt fonts after upgrade to 11.10?
[19:04] <angels> it is hard explaining some things over chat. I need phone support
[19:05] <angels> for example, I still can't figure out the partitioning & installing. MrElendig - I am not sure how to create the 100 mb /boot, 20gb /, 2xram swap and the rest for /home
[19:05] <DasEi> angels:herb costs, phone me, rofl
[19:05] <paxman> angels, ubuntu is not a company to afford that sort of support... be realistic please. this is volunteer support only, people dont get paid
[19:05] <LjL> paxman: err?
[19:06] <Pici> paxman: Canonical does offer paid support contracts.
[19:06] <LjL> paxman: Canonical offers paid support for Ubuntu
[19:06] <DasEi> angels: if that is a concern, rather look for paid local edu, cheaper and more effective
[19:07] <angels> Has anyone tried the Canonical support? Do you have to call the UK?
[19:07] <angels> DasEi - you mean community college?
[19:07] <Pici> angels: You might have a local Linux User's Group that could provide support.
[19:07] <DasEi> angels: and the like, I'm located in germany, we have some kind of lower grade offers here
[19:08] <escott> angels, for such basic stuff as partitioning and installing paying canonical is rather silly. im sure they wouldnt refuse the money, but you should find a LUG and talk to them
[19:08] <hispeed88> i agree escott
[19:08] <hispeed88> i think i can do that without big problems i will see it tomorrow
[19:09] <pndemc> just installing ubuntu?
[19:09] <DasEi> Pici:  adult education center ,evening classes, but it gets ot
[19:09] <violinappren> angels: you get some books and do it the old fashioned way? works rather well
[19:11] <violinappren> angels: i think http://tldp.org/ was/is an invaluable resource for generations of gnu/linux aficionados
[19:12] <tiox0> Hey guys, I am using the UBuntu 12.04 final beta, and I am having difficulty getting a previously-working wireless dongle working. Has been something changed in the final beta, or is the final beta missing some things that enable this stuff to work?
[19:12] <troubled> violinappren: and sunsite.unc.edu! :)
[19:12] <MrElendig> angels: take a look at tldp and the ubuntu install guides
[19:12] <Pici> tiox0 : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[19:15] <MisterT> hello?
[19:15] <zk274> goodbye
[19:15] <pndemc> :O
[19:15] <MisterT> does anyone here have experience installing ubuntu on an ibook?
[19:15] <mzcl-mn> hello
[19:16] <pndemc> ibooks are PPC, are they not?
[19:16] <MisterT> yes
[19:16] <violinappren> pndemc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[19:16] <pndemc> I don't think it's possible then
[19:16] <MisterT> but when i boot from the CD i got from the website, it's like it can't find anything.  Let me reboot and type everything it says
[19:17] <violinappren> tiox0: pastebin the output of lsusb
[19:17] <violinappren> !pastebin | tiox0
[19:18] <pndemc> yeah, looks like you can only install ubuntu on intel macs
[19:18] <mzcl-mn> hello again
[19:19] <MrWobz> pndemc there isnt a ppc version of ubuntu. not to my knowledge
[19:19] <mzcl-mn> I was trying to see who were the users in this room
[19:19] <MisterT> well i got it @ this URL: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[19:19] <oCean> !ppc
[19:19] <oCean> !arm
[19:19] <mzcl-mn> does anyone know how to set that in empathy?
[19:20] <genii-around> Also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[19:21] <MisterT> !sparc
[19:21] <mzcl-mn> sorry
[19:21] <rainerborene> exit
[19:21] <mzcl-mn> i've got it now
[19:21] <MisterT> long time ago, i got these linux CDs marked that they were for sparc processors.  Just wondering what that is
[19:22] <mzcl-mn> this must be ackward
[19:22] <mzcl-mn> moving on
[19:22] <mzcl-mn> does anyone here use kate?
[19:22] <i7c> why does plugging in my webcam make pulseaudio freeze? :-/
[19:23] <mzcl-mn> I was at their channel just a second ago and no one could help me
[19:23] <datruth> How can I find what held packages I have, and any other packages that could be broken and remove them so I can upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[19:23] <MisterT> stdin: error 0
[19:23] <MisterT> stdin: error 0
[19:23] <MisterT> stdin: error 0
[19:23] <FloodBot1> MisterT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <MisterT> it says that first
[19:24] <tgm4883> Trying to setup some UFW firewall rules, I've currently got this http://pastebin.ca/2138401 but will ssh traffic even get to lines 6-16 with line 5 in there?
[19:24] <mzcl-mn> so...
[19:24] <MisterT> then it says /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: no medium found
[19:24] <mzcl-mn> hello???
[19:24] <mzcl-mn> ok
[19:24] <jack_^> what's the ubuntu beta channel?
[19:24] <Pici> jack_^: #ubuntu+1
[19:24] <Sidewinder> mzcl-mn, It works..
[19:24] <DasEi> jack_^: #ubuntu+1
[19:25] <jack_^> thanks Pici
[19:25] <MisterT> chroot: cannot execute 'mktemp': input/output error
[19:25] <DasEi> mzcl-mn: just ask the real question ?
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> excuse-me Sidewinder?
[19:25] <bazhang> !enter | MisterT
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> ok
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> i did
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> sorry
[19:25] <MisterT> cp: can't stat '/root/var/cache/debconf/config.dat': input/output error
[19:25] <mzcl-mn> i didn't
[19:26] <MisterT> i'm just saying what it's saying
[19:26] <Sidewinder> !enter
[19:26] <jack_^> !enter
[19:26] <jack_^> ubottu: you suck
[19:26] <Sidewinder> :)
[19:26] <jack_^> i hate that bot
[19:26] <mzcl-mn> I cannot reach the kate's menus from standard ALT+key combination
[19:26] <bazhang> MisterT, pastebin it, and ask a complete question all on one line
[19:26] <tgm4883> use pastebin for multiple lines
[19:26] <nursedad> cane some help me with duel booting ubuntu and win 7
[19:26] <mzcl-mn> does anyone else have the same issue?
[19:27] <DasEi> nursedad: sure, details ?
[19:27] <mzcl-mn> or had= :(
[19:27] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, sorry I don't use kate
[19:27] <DasEi> !dualboot | nursedad
[19:27] <mzcl-mn> no worries tgm4883
[19:27] <Sidewinder> nursedad, If you're new to ubuntu, this is a great site: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[19:27] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, have you tried #kubuntu
[19:27] <nursedad> ill look at both thank youy
[19:28] <mzcl-mn> tgm4883: not yet
[19:28] <Sidewinder> :)
[19:28] <DasEi> nursedad: if you have a specific question, just ask
[19:28] <mzcl-mn> still I am using kate at ubuntu tgm4883
[19:28] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, can you use alt+key in other apps?
[19:28] <mzcl-mn> and kwrite seems to be working well tgm4883
[19:29] <mzcl-mn> tgm4883: yes I can
[19:29] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, so if it's just kate that is having the issue, probably not something specific to gnome. You might try #kubuntu as they will more likely be kate users
[19:30] <datruth> oh well Ill just do a fresh install ;/
[19:30] <MisterT> it's all can't find or can't mount, or can't stat, or input/output error
[19:30] <mzcl-mn> maybe I should purge and reinstall tgm4883 and if that doesn't work out I'll get to #kubuntu too
[19:30] <MisterT> what does that mean?
[19:30] <tgm4883> mzcl-mn, yea could try that too
[19:31] <nursedad> very old information
[19:31] <mzcl-mn> tgm4883: thanks
[19:31] <tgm4883> yw
[19:31] <mzcl-mn> c u
[19:31] <viktor_> does anybody know a way to emulate a right mouse-click, with a touchpad and holding a button down?
[19:31] <guntbert> MisterT: if you want to show us some output please use a !pastebin
[19:31] <guntbert> !pastebin | MisterT
[19:32] <bazhang> MisterT, describe exactly what you are trying to accomplish as well.
[19:32] <MisterT> i can't get the output.  It goes too fast for me to type it into a text editor, and i can't take a screenshot
[19:32] <MisterT> to install ubuntu on this laptop
[19:32] <bazhang> !details | MisterT
[19:32] <crankharder> just installed lucid/server and it boots up to grub, and past that and then.... the monitor turns off, computer's still running, etc
[19:32] <nursedad> when you duel boot can you use the existing windows folders to strore data from both ubuntu and windows?
[19:33] <MisterT> 12.04 is the disk
[19:33] <bazhang> MisterT, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[19:33] <tgm4883> nursedad, kinda yes, kinda no
[19:34] <nursedad> tgm4883 van u explain?
[19:34] <tgm4883> you can access, read and write to ntfs partitions, but I wouldn't store programs and such on them. I'd just use it for accessing media
[19:34] <tgm4883> you won't be able to do any permissions on it either
[19:35] <tgm4883> so anyone that can access the partition can see everything
[19:36] <nursedad> tgm4883 so i could change the default documents in ubuntu to be the windows my documents
[19:36] <tgm4883> nursedad, you mean like a symlink?
[19:36] <violinappren>  nursedad yes
[19:37] <nursedad> tgm4883 no
[19:38] <tgm4883> nursedad, then I'm not sure what you mean
[19:38] <nursedad> violinappren do you have a link or something to direct me
[19:38] <violinappren> nursedad: just drag the folder to the "favorites" sidebar on left side of file manager, will show up in all file dialogs
[19:38] <nursedad> tgm4833 maybe i dont understand simlink
[19:39] <tgm4883> nursedad, it sounds like if you go to /home/USER/Documents you want it to show your My Documents folder on the NTFS partition
[19:39] <tgm4883> that is easily done with a symlink
[19:39] <nursedad> violinappren ok
[19:39] <tgm4883> should be easily done, I don't know if there is any symlink incompatibility with NTFS drives, but I doubt there is
[19:39] <guntbert> tgm4883: a symlink to a folder on ntfs?
[19:40] <tgm4883> guntbert, yea
[19:40] <nursedad> tgm4883 yep thats it
[19:40] <guntbert> tgm4883: I doubt it
[19:40] <tgm4883> guntbert, you doubt it would work, or you doubt there is an incompatibility?
[19:40] <violinappren> nursedad: having the folder in a specific place is meaningless, because you can access it easily from anywhere
[19:40] <guntbert> tgm4883: I doubt it will work
[19:41] <ubuntu> hey guy
[19:41] <tgm4883> guntbert, why?
[19:41] <ubuntu> plz help me
[19:41] <violinappren> no need to stipulate ~/Documents
[19:41] <ubuntu> i can not update my system
[19:41] <ubuntu> apt-get update
[19:41] <guntbert> tgm4883: but I don't really know - call it a "feeling" :-/
[19:41] <Pici> !details | ubuntu
[19:41] <ubuntu> connecting to repositry but process show 0%
[19:41] <nursedad> i just want to have one my docs/docs, one pictures flder etc.. for bothe installs folder for
[19:41] <hemicuda> Hi i need help
[19:41] <violinappren> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update
[19:42] <raubvogel> On op-panel, where are the passwords for voicemail defined? Are they the ones in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf?
[19:42] <tgm4883> guntbert, violinappren I see no reason it wouldn't work, but let me format my flash drive NTFS and verify
[19:42] <ubuntu> apt-get update 0% [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)] [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:42] <ubuntu> this is out put
[19:42] <hemicuda> ubuntu, i need help
[19:42] <tgm4883> ubuntu, what is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:42] <ubuntu> what help?
[19:42] <raubvogel> ubuntu, might want to consider using pastebin.com
[19:42] <DasEi> !ask | hemicuda
[19:42] <ubuntu> there not eeror
[19:42] <ubuntu> only this
[19:42] <violinappren> ubuntu: you may switch the mirror in Software Sources and try again
[19:42] <DasEi> ubuntu: fw in place ?
[19:42] <ubuntu> update process not ging furthure
[19:42] <hemicuda> how do i change the wallpaper of my log In screen
[19:43] <ubuntu> fi doesnot working at all
[19:43] <DasEi> ubuntu: can you ping google.com ?
[19:44] <tgm4883> guntbert, violinappren seems to work fine here
[19:44] <ubuntu> yes
[19:44] <ubuntu> my netowrk working fine
[19:44] <ubuntu> i can surf
[19:44] <ubuntu> hping
[19:44] <ubuntu> ping
[19:44] <ubuntu> evrything
[19:44] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <hemicuda> ping -e 3 www.google.com
[19:44] <DasEi> ubuntu: use synaptic to find fastest mirror, try again
[19:44] <guntbert> tgm4883: thx for testing
[19:44] <ubuntu> i want to upgrade my system
[19:44] <ubuntu> but not able to update
[19:44] <hemicuda> nslookup to find ip of google
[19:45] <ubuntu> synaptic packet manager also not able to
[19:45] <hemicuda> nslookup www.google.com
[19:45] <vitoit> ciao atutti
[19:45] <violinappren> ubuntu: open software center, then Edit > Software Sources, then choose a different mirror in "Download from:"
[19:45] <tgm4883> violinappren, you need to mount the NTFS drive permanently via fstab, then use a symlink such as "ln -s /path/to/ntfs/mydocuments/folder /home/USER/DIRNAME"
[19:45] <wylde> !enter | ubuntu
[19:45] <DasEi> ubuntu: what happens if you let it autoping available mirrors ?
[19:45] <guntbert> hemicuda: what is the matter?
[19:45] <hemicuda> how do i change my log in wallpaper
[19:46] <ubuntu> apt-get dist-upgrade E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:46] <tgm4883> violinappren, DIRNAME needs to not exist in your home directory before you do this
[19:46] <DasEi> ubuntu: so ? do it !
[19:46] <ubuntu> it give error
[19:46] <violinappren> ubuntu: then run this command as well to fix broken packages
[19:46] <DasEi> sudo dpkg --configure -a    ?
[19:46] <ubuntu> sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:46] <violinappren> tgm4883: that's interesting
[19:46] <ubuntu> i try to install posgresql
[19:46] <ubuntu> but it broken
[19:47] <joann> hi guys, I'm having problems with ubuntu, I can't mount anything, says not authorized. Any help with that? the account is administrator
[19:47] <tgm4883> joann, what command are you using to mount it?
[19:47] <escott> joann, only root can mount things not in fstab with mount. users in plugdev can mount things with udisks
[19:47] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall posgresql
[19:47] <joann> just plug and play, cd won't work or usb flash drive
[19:48] <ubuntu> ok i will try that
[19:48] <escott> joann, see if "groups" lists plugdev
[19:48] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall postgresql *
[19:48] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall posgresqlE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:48] <DasEi> !aptlock
[19:49] <DasEi> .. and make sure neither sw-center nor synaptic are open while fiddling terminal
[19:49] <joann> escott, yes it does and both of the account names are checked.
[19:49] <ubuntu> fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:49] <ubuntu> nothing open only terminal
[19:49] <ubuntu> fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...    here it hold not going futhure
[19:50] <miki> ciao
[19:50] <ubuntu> i try to install posgresql i guess something went wrong in that..i want to remove postgres sql..but i am not able to do
[19:50] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run   suggests ?
[19:50] <miki> !lista
[19:50] <violinappren> ubuntu:  dont interrupt it
[19:51] <ubuntu> ok
[19:51] <ubuntu> i run this command along with that apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run
[19:51] <joann> escott, what do I do from here?
[19:51] <escott> joann, not sure what you mean by checked "groups" is a command line program not a gui, but assuming you are in plugdev, try on the terminal udisks --mount /dev/sdX# where X# is the correct disk
[19:51] <ubuntu> any way if i can recover my whole system form live cd?
[19:52] <tgm4883> ubuntu, is your system encrypted?
[19:52] <ubuntu> no its not encrypted brother
[19:52] <DasEi> ubuntu:nah, ease down, there are several more possibilities
[19:52] <aaa801> Ok so my system is randomly rebooting, Any help ?
[19:52] <joann> escott, I'm in users and groups. I don't know anything about terminal.
[19:52] <ubuntu> aa801>>it problem in ur system
[19:52] <DasEi> aaa801: check /var/log/syslog  and dmesg>dmesgt.txt
[19:53] <tgm4883> then if you boot a livecd you should be able to see everything on the system
[19:53] <ubuntu> so what i do brothers? i can not format my pc coz i have 250 gb data
[19:53] <aaa801> seems to be alot of spam from eth0 on dmesg and the syslog
[19:54] <DasEi> ubuntu:again, calm downa little and try the steps given
[19:54] <tgm4883> ubuntu, did you put that data on a separate partition?
[19:54] <ubuntu> which one? dasei?
[19:54] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run   suggests ?
[19:54] <hypn0> ubuntu, how can you tell everyone here is male :-/
[19:54] <aaa801> i had previsusly set up my ipmi card on the same subnet as the network the pc is connected to
[19:54] <aaa801> could that be causing issues?
[19:54] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get remove postgres90 --dry-run E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:55] <tgm4883> hypn0, he uses the new Gender Over IP Protocol
[19:55] <aaa801> sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[19:55] <escott> !aptlock | ubuntu
[19:55] <austin182> what is the best software to put on a usb flashdrive to boot a linux distro?
[19:55] <aaa801> DasEi: ?
[19:55] <ubuntu> udo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       4570 f.... dpkg Kill process 4570 ? (y/N) y Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:56] <DasEi> ubuntu: N, but let it go
[19:56] <bazhang> austin182, try unetbootin or the others, you decide which is best
[19:56] <aaa801> DasEi: Found the error, dma status error, resetting chip
[19:56] <aaa801> over and over
[19:56] <ubuntu> it dont go furthure..even whole night it will be same
[19:56] <austin182> thanks for the help
[19:57] <DasEi> ubuntu:again, calm down a little and try the steps given
[19:57] <DasEi> ubuntu:repeat last command, choose N
[19:57] <ubuntu> i am tryin step seven sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       4570 f.... dpkg Kill process 4570 ? (y/N) y Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:58] <ubuntu> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[19:59] <aantoon> regarding 12.04 I have a new computer that has an Intel SSD. I have some questions about using Ubuntu with an SSD that I hope ubuntu developers can answer for me. I've researched online but do not know how best to proceed as there seems to be differing advice. I see it mentioned online that I should mount with DISCARD. But an article from OpenSUSE says DISCARD is not good to use.
[19:59] <aantoon>  http://opensuse.14.n6.nabble.com/SSD-detection-when-creating-first-time-fstab-td3313048.html
[19:59] <aantoon>  Here are my questions
[19:59] <aantoon>  1.) are there any issues I should be aware of if using ubuntu on an SSD? Is ubuntu primarily intended to be used on HDD and not recommended for SSD?
[19:59] <aantoon>  2.) do you recommend TRIM be used for SSD with ubuntu?
[19:59] <FloodBot1> aantoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <aantoon>  3.) If you do recommend TRIM be used, how should TRIM be setup? Automatic wiping, or manual wiping? FITRIM, FSTRIM, or DISCARD?
[19:59] <aaa801> *soo screwed atm*
[20:00] <DasEi> aantoon: ssd is generally well supported, can play with trim later
[20:00] <bazhang> aantoon, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04
[20:00] <DasEi> aaa801: man hdparm
[20:00] <aaa801> its not my hd
[20:00] <aaa801> ?
[20:00] <aaa801> its a bmc card thats causing hte issues i believe
[20:00] <aaa801> ipmi0
[20:01] <DasEi> aaa801: remove it, retry ?
[20:01] <ubuntu> ok daesi
[20:01] <ubuntu> i gues nothing ca do with that
[20:01] <aaa801> dasei, i kinda need it for remove monitering and offline access
[20:01] <aaa801> remote*
[20:01] <DasEi> ubuntu:does it just sit there ?
[20:01] <DasEi> does
[20:01] <ubuntu> yes
[20:02] <ubuntu> nothing going furthure
[20:02]  * aaa801 delves into the ipmi configuration menus to see wtf is uip
[20:02] <DasEi> ubuntu: ctrl+c
[20:02] <DasEi> ubuntu: repeat command choose N this time
[20:02] <ubuntu> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[20:02] <MisterT> figure it out
[20:02] <ubuntu> now y/n option not coming
[20:02] <DasEi> ubuntu: better sign
[20:03] <ubuntu> now it doesn't asking for y/n     sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up postgres90 (9.0.7-1) ...
[20:03] <DasEi> got it
[20:04] <joseph_> hi guys, something is seriously wrong with my mom's ubuntu computer. I can't mount any drives, or unlock anything (the password prompt won't show up)
[20:05] <joseph_> maybe a new virus? she is good at getting them
[20:05] <ubuntu> apt-get remove postgres90 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED:   postgres90 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 17 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory
[20:05] <Pici> !pastebin | ubuntu
[20:06] <bazhang> ubuntu you have a nother instance of apt running then or synaptic / software centre is being used
[20:06] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/938813/
[20:06] <bazhang> ubuntu, let them finish then try again
[20:06] <brontosaurusrex> is it possible to cross-compile things for win/os-x on some ubuntu box?
[20:06] <ubuntu> i close evrything
[20:06] <DasEi> ubuntu:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock && dpkg --configure -a
[20:06] <ubuntu> then again issue command still its same
[20:06] <bazhang> ubuntu, something is still running
[20:07] <ubuntu> not nothing running
[20:07] <donavan01> brontosaurusrex what are you trying to do exactly
[20:07] <ubuntu> ok now command succesfully works
[20:07] <bazhang> ubuntu, then you did not use sudo
[20:07] <DasEi> ubuntu: ;)
[20:07] <ubuntu> now commad succefully
[20:08] <ubuntu> ok now what i should do?
[20:08] <donavan01> anyone use dropbox and have issues with it not syncing in ubuntu
[20:08] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:08] <ubuntu> 0% [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)] [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:08] <winterpk> Does anyone know the best way to set up sftp for a user but restrict them from full shell access so they are jailed to a home directory?
[20:08] <ubuntu> not going furthure
[20:08] <ratcheer> brontosaurusrex: Depends on what you're making. Most things compiled on Mono will run on Windows.
[20:08] <brontosaurusrex> donavan01: compile https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/source.html with all the whistles
[20:09] <DasEi> ubuntu: give irt a second
[20:09] <brontosaurusrex> donavan01: cli version only
[20:09] <ubuntu> what do you mean brother?
[20:09] <DasEi> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:09] <ubuntu> this not going furthure . my problem is that my pc not connecting to repositry
[20:09] <bazhang> ubuntu, then change mirrors
[20:09] <aaa801> lovely
[20:10] <aaa801> now terminal isnt appearing in search bar
[20:10] <ubuntu> how to change mirror?
[20:10] <DasEi> ubuntu: ctrl+c, sudo synaptic
[20:10]  * aaa801 throws server out of window
[20:10] <bazhang> ubuntu, open up synaptic package manager and change there
[20:10]  * DasEi is happy to have found some free stuff
[20:11] <ubuntu> i am in synaptic where is option for change mirrors?
[20:11] <DasEi> ubuntu: software sources the balcon on the right midle, a rolldown menu
[20:12] <DasEi> other server > find best server
[20:12] <ubuntu> i went to setting then i replace main server to my country name
[20:12] <ubuntu> now saying testing download server
[20:12] <DasEi> just ping them, will take 10 min, to find best one
[20:12] <aaa801> mhm that seems to of clear3ed it up
[20:13] <ubuntu> it says not suitable servers was found :(
[20:13] <donavan01> brontosaurusrex are you trying to compile the program to but used one 3 different OS's  windows,mac,linux ... if so that would greatly depend on the source code.  if the source code is written in such a was so to be portable (as in able to be ported)  the your shouldnt have much issue but you may have to do the actual build inside of there respective environments unless you find an emulator... if this isnt what your talking ab
[20:13] <DasEi> ubuntu: seems there is something wierd with your network then
[20:13] <ubuntu> no brother i have 2 netconnection..usb broadband and also wifi
[20:14] <winterpk> Does anyone konw how to jail an sftp user?
[20:14] <ubuntu> i tested form both network ..same problem it not have issue with port block etc
[20:14] <DasEi> ubuntu: how do you connect ?for distupgrades always cabled
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> donavan01: right, so my best bet is probably a lion running virtual lion , so i can nuke that one ?
[20:16] <DasEi> jailtool and rssh are your friends
[20:16] <DasEi> !chroot | winterpk
[20:16] <donavan01> brontosaurusrex why would you virtualize the OS your already running (unless your trying to build from a sterile envornment there is no sense in that)?
[20:16] <DasEi> jailtool and rssh are your friends, winterpk
[20:17] <winterpk> ok, thanks guys.  I will look into both tools.
[20:17] <DasEi> ubuntu: well apt is fine again,  there is an issue with your network
[20:18] <hemicuda> ubuntu sucks
[20:18] <bazhang> hemicuda, wrong channel then
[20:19] <DasEi> ubuntu: could you pastebin /etc/resolv.conf   ,  /etc/apt/soiurces.list
[20:19] <Troller> hemicuda why are you here lol
[20:19] <Troller> also what distro you use?
[20:19] <hemicuda> i heard there is a new linux virus
[20:19] <bazhang> !ot | hemicuda
[20:21] <DasEi> ubuntu left, lil' less patience
[20:22] <okanbasoglu> hi
[20:23] <okanbasoglu> i know this is ubuntu channel but anyone used dnspython
[20:23] <okanbasoglu> im having a problem with it
[20:23] <okanbasoglu> its not reading my /etc/hosts file
[20:23] <Bolofo> Hello?
[20:23] <lukebrannon> I'm trying to rsync files between ubuntu 10.04 hosts using rsync 2.6.9 and I'm getting the "protocol version mismatch -- is your shell clean?" error.  googling the error, example after example says that if I run ssh host /bin/true > out.dat and come up w/ a zero length file I should be fine, but I'm getting just that and the error persists.  is there anything else to try?
[20:23] <Pici> okanbasoglu: #python would be a more appropriate place to ask./
[20:24] <okanbasoglu> Pici: i tried there but no luck
[20:25] <troubled> lukebrannon: curious, did you try using `-e ssh` for rsync instead of using rsync protocol?
[20:25] <troubled> otherwise, I haven't had to deal with mismatch myself, sorry
[20:25] <Pici> okanbasoglu: I'm there, and you aren't. You need to be registered and identified to join.
[20:27] <okanbasoglu> Pici: I am registered thanks for the tip
[20:27] <finnguy> I've been wondering this, finally will ask: why is my mouse always unstable in movement in ubuntu? is it because it's a really cheap logitech?
[20:27] <lukebrannon> troubled: this is the command I'm using: sudo -E rsync -PazSH --rsh='ssh --rsync-path 'sudo /usr/bin/rsync' /source <remoteHost>:/target
[20:27] <Pici> okanbasoglu: oh, you aren't identified now, :)
[20:27] <violinappren> finnguy: try adjusting acceleration or sensitivity, i use cheap mouses all the time
[20:28] <troubled> lukebrannon: hmm -E? always thought it was -e. sec whilst I open a terminal :)
[20:28] <troubled> oh nm, that was for sudo not rsync, my bad
[20:28] <lukebrannon> troubled: sorry should have left the -E part that's for sudo
[20:28] <tbrown> Am making a youtube video about zenwalk can anyone tell me some infomation on it
[20:28] <troubled> ya gotcha. trying to mentally digest your cli-fu :)
[20:29] <violinappren> !ot | tbrown
[20:29] <troubled> lukebrannon: maybe need some \' in there?
[20:29] <troubled> lukebrannon: otherwise, seems to me like it would get say 'ssh --rsync-path '
[20:30] <crankharder> just installed lucid/server and it boots up to grub, and past that and then.... the monitor turns off, computer's still running, etc
[20:30] <lukebrannon> troubled: sorry typo: rsync -PazSH --rsh='ssh' --rsync-path 'sudo /usr/bin/rsync' /source <remoteHost>:/target
[20:31] <crankharder> i can get to a root prompt from recovery mode, but that doesn't tell me much
[20:31] <HyperNerdV2> .list
[20:31] <HyperNerdV2> oops
[20:32] <violinappren> crankharder: check the next-to-last syslog?
[20:33] <troubled> lukebrannon: i usually start by simplifying things, like try get a basic rsync going first. im assuming there is a reason you need to sudo rsync? also, i cant say ive tried --rsh before. i use '-e ssh', like: rsync --delete -avz -e ssh /somedir/ root@some.box:/some/dest/
[20:33] <rallias> I'm following the guide found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN , but the "Machine A" is directly on the internet. How do I change what I do to deal with this fact?
[20:33] <lukasz_> LUKASZ
[20:33] <guntbert> crankharder: silly idea - does alt+left get you anywhere?
[20:33] <crankharder> violinappren: where's that?
[20:33] <lukebrannon> troubled: thank you I will give that a try
[20:34] <troubled> lukebrannon: just don't forget to sudofy it :)
[20:34] <violinappren> crankharder: /var/log/messages in lucid
[20:34] <troubled> and dont forget --dry-run! :)
[20:34] <troubled> esp. with --delete
[20:34] <crankharder> violinappren: sorry, oneiric
[20:34] <lukebrannon> thanks!
[20:35] <crankharder> no var/log/messages
[20:35] <troubled> lukebrannon: work?
[20:36] <violinappren> crankharder: then it's called syslog not messages
[20:37] <crankharder> violinappren: that only has the current boot tho?
[20:37] <crankharder> i can only get to that file in recovery mode
[20:37] <violinappren> crankharder: .n where n is a number
[20:37] <escott> troubled, what are you trying to do?
[20:37] <troubled> escott: not me, lukebrannon
[20:37] <violinappren> crankharder: for example syslog.1
[20:38] <tgm4883> Has anyone used knockd with UFW? I'd like to limit the subnets that can knock and open the SSH port
[20:39] <crankharder> guntbert: erm, yea, alt-left fixed it -- what's that doing?
[20:40] <escott> lukebrannon, why are you using --rsh='ssh' that doesn't make a lot of sense
[20:41] <troubled> escott: i think he's off trying -e ssh now :)
[20:41] <waeter> can anyone tell me why i have, or more importantly how to fix the fact that in my grub i'm only showing 3 recovery kernels and a windows partition? :(
[20:42] <guntbert> crankharder: it switches to the next "virtual terminal" - you can go on like that
[20:42] <escott> troubled, -e ssh or --rsh='ssh' is the default
[20:43] <Tasmania> hey elky.
[20:43] <troubled> escott: you know, that rings a bell. only since i recall it was rsync proto that was the one I always needed to specify
[20:43] <lukebrannon> escott: I trimmed out too much of the line, I"m sorry it should be: sudo -E rsync -PazSH --rsh='ssh -i /path/to/pem' --rsync-path 'sudo /usr/bin/rsync' /source <remoteHost>:/target
[20:44] <escott> lukebrannon, (a) remove the second sudo thats not necessary
[20:44] <troubled> his rsyncs are making my brain hurt, switch to scp man ;)
[20:45] <troubled> im guessing by "pem" he's dealing with PKI certs that need to be copied securely
[20:45] <troubled> which im guessing is why he has a second sudo
[20:45] <troubled> lukebrannon: the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>implies root, so no sudo needed
[20:45] <escott> lukebrannon, also /usr/bin should be in the path on any sane system so --rsync-path should not be necessary
[20:45] <troubled> although that also implies root logins allowed, in which case, I can see your issue
[20:46] <guntbert> !enter | troubled
[20:47] <escott> troubled, right... lukebrannon can you express to us what exactly it is you want to accomplish here?
[20:47] <troubled> guntbert: sorry, 15 year old habit ;)
[20:47] <plouffe> waeter, what is missing?
[20:48] <locadmin> hi
[20:48] <lukebrannon> troubled: no root login, escott: short story: i need to duplicate a directory structure (including files) from one server to another, i thought a cron'd rsync would be good for that
[20:48] <pingvin> hello
[20:48] <waeter> plouffe: everything lol. the only linux i can boot into is recovery mode
[20:48] <plouffe> waeter, you can run sudo update-grub and sudo grub-install /dev/sda (if /dev/sda is where your grub is)
[20:49] <escott> lukebrannon, but why does it have to be done as root?
[20:49] <waeter> plouffe: i did sudo update-grub and grub-install, but i didn't try grub-install /dev/sda..maybe that'll do the trick
[20:50] <Advocated> Hi there, how can i tell if a cronjob is running, or can i see  alist of current cronjobs some how?
[20:50] <plouffe> waeter, yes you need to specify the MBR location
[20:50] <DasEi> crankharder: full update/grade from init 1, reconfigure gdm btw. lightwm
[20:50] <troubled> lukebrannon: i think a limited group readable file/dir with no sudo/root would probably be better for the access on the remote machine (passwordless/unattended ssh keys after all)
[20:50] <pingvin> im kinda a noob for ubuntu but how can i change from unity to gnome 3?
[20:50] <lukebrannon> escott: i suppose it doesn't, but the files aren't owned by the user doing the transfer
[20:50] <locadmin> l
[20:50] <locadmin> exit
[20:50] <DasEi> crankharder: additional x is a good idea
[20:50] <locadmin> quit
[20:50] <locadmin> close
[20:50] <locadmin> finish?
[20:50] <FloodBot1> locadmin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <polishguy94> Hello! How can I make the system to leave some bandwidth while downloading software packages for other internet applications?
[20:50] <DasEi> locadmin:  /part
[20:51] <auronandace> !notunity | pingvin
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> pingvin  Unity is gnome3
[20:51] <troubled> lukebrannon: could always make an account in the same group as the files/dirs, and skip the remote sudo, no? forgive misunderstanding, i don't know your system control/access
[20:51] <escott> lukebrannon, so, put the commands in the crontab for that user. you won't be able to run any of this with sudo anyways
[20:52] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: not exactly, unity is a shell on top of gnome3
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> auronandace  yes, i typed enter too soon
[20:52] <waeter> plouffe: thanks a bunch, i'll give that a try asap :)
[20:52] <polishguy94> Does anyone have an answer to my question?
[20:52] <lukebrannon> escott: thanks for the suggestion, I will rethink what I'm doing, troubled thanks as well
[20:53] <troubled> lukebrannon: np, and gl
[20:55] <DasEi> polishguy94: http://www.mastershaper.org/index.php/Main_Page
[20:55] <Advocated> ive just done ps -e | grep cron  and its showing: 3707 ?        00:00:56 cron  how can i see what that is?
[20:55] <polishguy94> DasEi: thanks
[20:56] <escott> Advocated, its cron. what is your question. so you want to see whats in the crontab?
[20:56] <Advocated> escott, im wondering if its my cronjob running, i started one at 9pm, and want to see if its running or stopped :S
[20:57] <Hebram> polishguy94:  This is a few years old, but it might help.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20342
[20:57] <auronandace> Hebram: he left
[20:57] <Advocated> escott, is that cron as in the function of cron or a specific cron job?
[20:57] <escott> Advocated, if you have a job started by cron it should appear directly in your ps aux output, but you could check pstree
[20:58] <Advocated> escott, so ps aux | grep cron?
[20:58] <escott> Advocated, crond runs as root on my system with the name "cron"
[20:58] <Advocated> which only lists: root      3707  0.0  0.0   2140   596 ?        Ss   Feb02   0:56 /usr/sbin/cron
[20:58] <escott> Advocated, if your crontab lists /my/executable then ps aux | grep "/my/executable" should show your process
[20:59] <Advocated> and root      6478  0.0  0.0   2888   820 pts/1    S+   21:57   0:00 grep cron
[20:59] <troubled> Advocated: tried greppng your logs to see if/when it ran?
[20:59] <Advocated> so my cron should run a .php file, its not showing that
[20:59] <Advocated> troubled, what log?
[20:59] <troubled> syslog prolly
[20:59] <troubled> although it probably gets logged to a few diff spots
[21:00] <troubled> ie: grep CRON /var/log/syslog
[21:00] <escott> Advocated, then see if php is running
[21:01] <Advocated> troubled, syslog shows only  Apr 20 21:00:01 router /USR/SBIN/CRON[32375]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/php -c /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini /var/www/ed.php
[21:01] <MrWobz> is it possible to start ubuntu in recovery to write to a read only disk ?
[21:01] <escott> MrWobz, why is the disk read only?
[21:01] <troubled> Advocated: is ed.php the file you expected it to run?
[21:02] <Advocated> troubled, yeah but it should have sent loads of emails, it didnt, so i think it crashed or stopped or something, i just want to know if its died, or still runnning :S
[21:02] <MrWobz> escott ive had slow drives.. and dmesg has shown that [    4.701775] EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
[21:02] <escott> Advocated, if you have a file name "somescript.php" with #!/bin/php in the first line then you should look for /usr/bin/hp -c /path/to/somescript.php
[21:02] <MrWobz> then it says [    4.701775] EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
[21:02] <MrWobz> [    4.701781] EXT4-fs (sda1): write access will be enabled during recovery
[21:02] <MrWobz> [    4.722534] EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete
[21:02] <troubled> Advocated: looks like it ran. mail may have just been sent to root instead of your user though, dunno, depends on lots of things
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    4.701775] EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    4.701781] EXT4-fs (sda1): write access will be enabled during recovery
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    4.722534] EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    4.722692] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[21:03] <MrWobz> [    6.139917] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: discard,errors=remount-ro
[21:03] <FloodBot1> MrWobz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <sokak> Hwdy :3 Any ffmpeg dude round here?
[21:03] <escott> MrWobz, so you need to boot either the livecd or to recovery and run fsck on the device
[21:03] <Advocated> troubled, so its ran, but now not running now?
[21:03] <bazhang> sokak, whats the question
[21:03] <troubled> Advocated: if it were still running, you would see a php in the process list
[21:03] <escott> !fsck | MrWobz
[21:03] <Advocated> ah ok, perfect, thanks troubled and thankes escott
[21:04] <sokak> hey bazhang, im trying to demux some mkv to avi to be viewed on a home theater, but i cant manage to produce something with audio. The source has a double audio stream with subs.
[21:05] <kakashiSenpai> hey guys, do any of you know how to change ubuntu orange color to another one
[21:05] <bazhang> sokak, avi to m4v? mkv to m4v?
[21:05] <MrWobz> escott and ubottu   Is it because my drives are running in a recovery mode ? that hdparm is slow ? I only have access to the machine via ssh
[21:05] <bazhang> !themes | kakashiSenpai
[21:05] <sokak> bazhang,  mkv to avi sorry for not being clear
[21:06] <bazhang> sokak, not sure why you'd want that.
[21:06] <escott> MrWobz, MrWobz if the drive is read only just run sudo fsck /dev/sdX#
[21:06] <sokak> bazhang, cheap dvd player at my home ;) i want to see em without the computer
[21:06] <bazhang> sokak, whats the home theater player by the way
[21:06] <troubled> MrWobz: ubottu is a bot btw ;)
[21:07] <sokak> bazhang, a no name no brand cheap 20 bucks thing ^^ But can play avis, but refuses mkv
[21:07] <bazhang> sokak, why not use devede to make the avi into a dvd player readable disc
[21:07] <bazhang> sokak, can it play m4v
[21:07] <MrWobz> escott thanks, I read if I do a forcefsk on reboot ill need to type a password in before boot
[21:08] <sokak> bazhang, the point is that i would like to try to make a simple container change, trying to preserve the double audio (there is in fact an audio button on the remote, and i would like to see if works :))
[21:08] <kakashiSenpai> @bazhang I mean the color when you select something, the scroll bar color etc..
[21:08] <zykotick9> sokak: are you sure AVI can support multiple audio streams?
[21:08] <sokak> bazhang, i guess not, it has only opened avi files til now (yes, some with h.264)
[21:08] <Dr_Willis_Testin> devede converts and makes dvd video disk iso files. it dosent really play stuff. ;)
[21:08] <graft> hey, anyone know how to minimize a window from the command-line?
[21:08] <sokak> zykotick9, i want to try to see if works ;)
[21:09] <bazhang> sokak, ok, not sure about how ffmpeg woudl do that, I usually use handbrake for most of that, there may well be a ffmpeg channel for more expert opinions; /msg alis list **ffmpeg* should reveal any
[21:09] <Guest307> does anyone know if there's a way to create raid and lvm during an ubuntu server install? I mean, is it available during the installation?
[21:09] <jrib> graft: you can probably do so with wmctrl
[21:09] <sokak> bazhang, zykotick9, til now i managed to map the audio and video streams, i dont know how to "encode" subs
[21:09] <sokak> bazhang, thx for the info :)
[21:09] <Dr_Willis_Testin> Guest307:  I Think the anternative cd installer has that feature.
[21:10] <Dr_Willis_Testin> night all.
[21:10] <graft> jrib: nein, wmctrl has a way to add the 'hidden' state to a window, but that doesn't do anything
[21:11] <Guest307> Dr_Willis_Testin: is that an option on the server install disk or you talking about a completely different install source?
[21:11] <troubled> Guest307: he left, but it sounded like a different iso image
[21:12] <Guest307> It sounded like that to me too. troubled: I don't know what I have to do to get what I need. Seems like something missing every corner I turn.
[21:12] <bazhang> Guest307, the alternate cd
[21:12] <jrib> graft: I'd be pretty surprised if wmctrl couldn't minimize windows, are you sure?
[21:13] <bazhang> !alternate | Guest307
[21:13] <zykotick9> bazhang: is there actually a difference between alternate and serve ISOs re: lvm/raid?  Guest307
[21:13] <troubled> Guest307: no idea, i use debian on servers at home here, havent used ubuntu. but if your iso has the pv/vg/lv LVM tools and mdadm, you could do it by hand I guess
[21:13] <Guest307> I'm trying to do  server install, not live cd
[21:14] <bazhang> zykotick9, I've used alternate not server, so cant really answer there
[21:14] <auronandace> !raid | Guest307
[21:15] <Guest307> hmm. Ok, well I'll see what I can do. A guy would think that's possible, given it's a sever system/ software.
[21:15] <DrManhattan> how do I monitor lm-sensors - there's a command to simply run lm-sensors and refresh it every second or so
[21:15] <DrManhattan> I can't remember what it is though
[21:15] <Guest307> thx ubottu
[21:15] <zykotick9> !cookie | ubottu
[21:15] <troubled> zykotick9: :)
[21:15] <zykotick9> troubled: didn't work like i'd hoped ;)
[21:16] <jrib> graft: you might also try xdotool
[21:16] <angs> what is the shortcut to open the taskmanager to kill a task?
[21:17] <jrib> angs: there is no such shortcut by default
[21:17] <fl1bbl3> taskmanager?
[21:17] <fl1bbl3> whats that?
[21:18] <DrManhattan> how do I monitor lm-sensors - there's a command to simply run lm-sensors and refresh it every second or so
[21:18] <fl1bbl3> xdotool is great
[21:18] <troubled> DrManhattan: worst case: watch -n1 <somecommand>
[21:18] <DrManhattan> watch! thats it
[21:18] <DrManhattan> thank you
[21:18] <troubled> np
[21:18] <DasEi> angs: terminal, either top,htop or ps, find PID. stop that
[21:18] <graft> jrib: yeah, trying that now
[21:18] <DasEi> !pid
[21:18]  * DrManhattan hands troubled a delicious cup of starbucks
[21:18] <angs> what is the windows taskmanager equivalent of ubuntu?
[21:19]  * troubled om noms
[21:19] <DasEi> angs: terminal, either top,htop or ps, find PID. stop that
[21:19] <DasEi> angs: open a terminal ...
[21:19] <Enissay> I do need help with a bash script, anyone can give it a look please :)
[21:19] <plouffe> angs, system monitor
[21:19] <DasEi> angs: which app you wanto to stop ?
[21:19] <angs> qt SDK
[21:20] <DasEi> angs : ps -aux | grep sdk
[21:20] <angs> thanks a lot
[21:20] <DasEi> angs : waiit
[21:20] <DasEi> angs : now you see a number there, the PID
[21:20] <zykotick9> DasEi: fyi it's "ps aux" and you might want ".. grep -i sdk" in case it's SDK
[21:21] <fl1bbl3> oh xubuntu does actually have a taskmanager gui app
[21:21] <DasEi> angs : kill PidHere               , mind zykotick9
[21:21] <fl1bbl3> looks like shit and I can't help wondering how on earth would use it
[21:21] <troubled> fl1bbl3: ever tried "top"?
[21:22] <fl1bbl3> yes
[21:22] <bazhang> fl1bbl3, no cursing
[21:22] <DasEi> angs: another way to see processes are top and htop; sudo apt-get install htop && htop
[21:22]  * zykotick9 likes htop over htop
[21:22] <troubled> O_o
[21:22] <zykotick9> top for that 2nd one ;)
[21:22] <fl1bbl3> bazhang: apologies, but it really does :)
[21:22] <DasEi> angs: kill  terminates single PID's , killall their childprocesses, too
[21:22]  * troubled takes a look at htop
[21:23] <zykotick9> DasEi: killall also kills by name instead of PID
[21:23] <DasEi> man kill , man killall fore more options , angs
[21:23] <troubled> oh this one, ya pretty color top :)
[21:23] <DasEi> zykotick9: time to stop, gtting tired, true
[21:24] <zykotick9> troubled: i do turn off the thread stuff in htop - makes it more manageable IMO
[21:24] <Enissay> I do need help with a bash script, anyone can give it a look please coz it 's not working :( : http://pastebin.com/qYfjGBpT
[21:24] <troubled> zykotick9: needs a better color scheme imho ;)
[21:24] <ipnosi77> ciao
[21:24] <ipnosi77> !list
[21:26] <hemicuda> hello
[21:26] <zykotick9> troubled: the scrolling down the list is a feature top really lacks
[21:26] <DasEi> Enissay: wrong use of "", ask in #bash
[21:27] <kakashiSenpai> !theme
[21:28] <troubled> zykotick9: top -bn1 | less ;)
[21:29] <ipnosi77> ciao
[21:29] <ipnosi77> !list
[21:29] <zykotick9> troubled: or that... ;)
[21:29] <troubled> zykotick9: sorry, had to be a smartass, but ya it would be nice built in :)
[21:30] <zykotick9> troubled: that's no longer real time though
[21:30] <zykotick9> troubled: using top/htop to kill stuff is sometimes handy
[21:31] <Guest307> the regular server install cd has stuff in the partitioner to create raid and lvm - btw
[21:31] <troubled> zykotick9: ya definetly nice tools to be familiar with
[21:31]  * dlentz sometimes randomly uses htop to kill processes for fun
[21:31] <hemicuda> I have a coconut for a brain
[21:31]  * dlentz needs professional therapy
[21:32] <troubled> Guest307: good to know, thanks. so im guessing its not a problem to do it, just that you have to do it manually via menus instead of automatic partitioning or something?
[21:32] <Ammar_> hello
[21:33] <Ammar_> anyone there?
[21:33]  * fisix hello
[21:33] <Ammar_> is this thing working?
[21:33] <dlentz> Ammar_, yes
[21:33]  * fisix nothing works
[21:33] <Ammar_> great :D
[21:34] <zykotick9> Guest307: the text installers (server,alternative,mini) are a lot closer to d-i (debian installer) and typically support more hardware (expecially storage devices/schemes)...
[21:34] <Ammar_> I wanted to ask a question about installation of ubuntu
[21:34] <dlentz> Ammar_, ask away
[21:34] <Ammar_> I have a HP G62 laptop
[21:34] <Ammar_> I want to install ubuntu on it.
[21:34] <Ammar_> but not via wubi
[21:35] <Ammar_> instead I want to install it over my windows 7 partation
[21:35] <zykotick9> Ammar_: try to put your comments on one line.  I'm sending you !enter after this.
[21:35] <troubled> zykotick9: so the server install is generally a gui with less functionality than the text mode?
[21:35] <zykotick9> !enter > Ammar_
[21:35] <zykotick9> troubled: server -> gui... what?  it's all text, install and running ;)
[21:36] <Ammar_> oh sorry. leme type the entire thing.
[21:36] <zykotick9> troubled: GUIs on servers make NO sense to me ;)
[21:36] <troubled> zykotick9: oh, sorry I guess I misread. sounded like you were implying the server instead had a GUI installer version too (not GUI server itself)
[21:37] <dlentz> Ammar_, unless you're hurting for disk space, i'd suggest shrinking the Windows partition and keeping it (it could be useful if you have to send it in for repairs)
[21:37] <zykotick9> troubled: the non-gui installers support more filesystem/storage device options - was my point ;)
[21:37] <troubled> zykotick9: gotcha. sorry, im slow some days ;) that and I havent actually tried ubuntu server before, but thought about it and was curious
[21:39] <Ammar_> I have HP G62 laptop. it currently has windows 7 installed on it. It also has 4 partitions. C:\, HP_Tools, Recovery, System. I want to overwrite the partition C:\ where my windows is installed. The question here is, if I overwrite it, will I be able to restore windows from the recovery?
[21:40] <troubled> Ammar_: i did similar on a desktop with ubuntu and just blew away C. worked fine, and grub had menu item to start the "windows" partition which was the system recovery (which did run fine)
[21:40] <quackers> Ammar_, have you made recovery disc(s) just in case?
[21:40] <Ammar_> Oh and if I overwrite it, will my other partitions get effected?
[21:41] <Ammar_> yes I have a recovery disc
[21:41] <zykotick9> Ammar_: i can't help you - but want to point something out.  default ubuntu install requires 2 partitions (/ and swap) if you have 4 primary partitions (the limit in most cases) you have an issue.
[21:41] <quackers> always a good idea in case the recovery partition has a problem in the future
[21:41] <troubled> also might be good to make file iso's of those recovery disks too and save them on a hd
[21:41] <Ammar_> the HP came with 4 partitions.
[21:42] <OerHeks> Ammar_, then use all space, recovery disc can restore your windows as it came from factory
[21:42] <quackers> a lot of people in your position delete the HP Tools partition then shrink the C: drive in Windows then install Ubuntu in the resulting free space
[21:42] <quackers> in logical partitions
[21:43] <troubled> Ammar_: I think you only actually need the recovery partition, since it would restore the OS and the tools partition, but don't quote me since I havent actually tested
[21:43] <Ammar_> I actually made a system repair disc. is that the recovery disk?
[21:43] <troubled> Ammar_: my machine is an HP desktop too, if that means much
[21:43] <quackers> No!!! you need to make recovery dvd(s) too
[21:44] <quackers> there is usually a program on there that will do it. Verify the write too and make more than one set of discs
[21:44] <troubled> ya, they should specifically be called "recovery" and be like 2 - 4 dvd's depending on the age of the box (vista vs win7 for example)
[21:45] <Ammar_> my HP did not ship with any recovery disk.
[21:45] <jcdutton> I would just replace the HD, that way you don't have to worry about the windows stuff
[21:45] <quackers> a repair disc is only a couple hundred meg. A recovery set can be one or two dvd's
[21:45] <troubled> Ammar_: most dont ship with them these days it seems. sad really :(
[21:46] <quackers> that's why there is usually a program on there that will make them
[21:46] <share> !party
[21:46] <quackers> Possible in the recovery section
[21:46] <Ammar_> so after making a recovery disk, can I simply format the entire harddrive and install ubuntu?
[21:46] <share> !Precise
[21:47] <Ammar_> and if I want to restore windows, can I use that same disk?
[21:47] <troubled> Ammar_: pretty much ya. but i would back up those dvd's to files asap. dvd's have a way of dying when you need them :)
[21:47] <share> 26 April :)
[21:47] <Hebram> Ammar_:  You still have your personal data to worry about.   I usually make 2 sets of them - and always verify the data
[21:48] <troubled> par2 is great if you back them up to files as well. don't want a pesky bad sector to ruin your day!
[21:48] <Ammar_> alright I think I got it :D
[21:49] <Hebram> Definately verify.  The recovery disk maker that came with my Lenovo expires after you write one set.
[21:49] <troubled> Ammar_: one last thing; don't forget to actually test boot the dvds. and if you are gonna just wipe the drive, try a test recover
[21:50] <Ammar_> So all I need to do is create a recovery disk, make the entire backup of all my files, use ubuntu to clear my partitions and install it on my harddisk
[21:50] <balleyne> I'm sharing my 3G connection via Ubuntu's hotspot wifi thing as an ad-hoc wifi connection... is there a way for me to see a list of devices that are connected to me right now?
[21:50] <quackers> yep
[21:50] <troubled> Ammar_: and to test discs, backups and recovery process, but ya :)
[21:51] <delinquentme> I'm using "grep -r 'background' .css" to try and find the KW 'background' within .css files
[21:51] <delinquentme> what am i missing here?
[21:51] <Hebram> Ammar_: And be prepared to destroy your recovery disk after you love your transition to Linux.
[21:51] <balleyne> delinquentme, there's no file called ".css"
[21:51] <troubled> delinquentme: like: grep -R background *.css?
[21:51] <Ammar_> hehe :P
[21:51] <balleyne> delinquentme, you should give the directory as an argument if you want it to recurse through something with the -r, or even '*.css'
[21:51] <violinappren> balleyne: iwlist wlan0 peers
[21:52] <delinquentme> grep: *.css: No such file or directory
[21:52] <Ammar_> I also wanted to ask few more things such as
[21:52] <balleyne> delinquentme, are the CSS files in your current directory? Or are they in subdirectories?
[21:52] <delinquentme>  grep -r background *.css >> grep: *.css: No such file or directory
[21:52] <delinquentme> sub dirs
[21:52] <Ammar_> what is the difference between speed of wubi and the actual installed ubuntu
[21:52] <delinquentme> thats what i thought -r does?
[21:52] <troubled> well, unless it doesn't match the glob in the current dir
[21:53] <troubled> grep -r background *, would though, but would also match other stuff too
[21:53] <balleyne> delinquentme, -r recurses through subdirectories of the argument you gave it
[21:53] <balleyne> delinquentme, but you gave it "*.css"
[21:53] <troubled> or could try: find ./ -type f -name *.css -exec grep background "{}" \;
[21:53] <balleyne> delinquentme, unless "*.css" is the name of your directory, grep will not recurse through anything
[21:54] <violinappren> delinquentme:  find . -iname "*.css" |  grep -i "background"
[21:54] <balleyne> delinquentme, you want something like: grep -r 'background' css/
[21:54] <neco198> Hi alll, I have this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962238
[21:54] <balleyne> delinquentme, or grep -r 'background' public_html/
[21:54] <Ammar_> what is the difference between speed of wubi and the actual installed ubuntu
[21:54] <balleyne> delinquentme, where css/ or public_html is the name of the directory you want grep to recursively check
[21:54] <delinquentme> this is complex huh?
[21:54] <delinquentme> ill just feed it a dir thanks
[21:54] <troubled> depends :) just 1000 ways to do it hehe
[21:54] <violinappren> delinquentme: not if you use the right tool
[21:55] <delinquentme> well I'm sitting here needing to pipe things around to find something within a type of file?
[21:55] <violinappren> delinquentme: welcome to unix :)
[21:55] <troubled> :)
[21:55] <delinquentme> thats dumb
[21:56] <violinappren> delinquentme: dont use it
[21:56] <delinquentme> theres a search tool but from the little bit i used grep I really liked it .. super fast too
[21:56] <balleyne> delinquentme, you're using grep wrong. no need to pipe through find. just give grep a path that actually exists, and it'll recursively grep it
[21:56] <delinquentme> violinappren,  find . -iname "*.css" |  grep -i "background" << that gave me nada
[21:56] <troubled> delinquentme: you could do like you had too with globs that start with a dir that knowingly has css files too like: grep -r background ./{dira,dirb}/*.css
[21:56] <violinappren> delinquentme: what was the find command give without piping to grep?
[21:57] <troubled> if you were going to pipe find output to anything, you probably want to send it to something like xargs though
[21:57] <user82> hi i tried to install grub manually. are the commands "grub-install somedevice" and "update-grub" sufficient to make it bootable
[21:57] <delinquentme> violinappren, so the idea is use find to locate the CSS files
[21:58] <delinquentme> then pipe the files into grep to search?
[21:58] <delinquentme> balleyne, is there a way to recurse through every sub dir of the current dir to find "background" within a .css file?
[21:58] <fl1bbl3> you don't need to do that, just do a recursive grep from the ./ dir
[21:58] <troubled> delinquentme: just try this: find ./ -type f -name *.css -exec grep -Hi background "{}" \;
[21:59] <troubled> change -name to -iname, if you have some files as .CSS and .css (ie: mixed case)
[21:59] <hemicuda> I need help
[21:59] <delinquentme>  grep "background" -r ./ *.css
[21:59] <delinquentme> thatll do!
[21:59] <balleyne> delinquentme, `grep -r background .` will recurse through every sub dir of the current dir and return 'background within *any* file
[22:00] <troubled> poor guy hehe
[22:00] <neco198> Hi all, I need help for fix this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962238
[22:00] <delinquentme> balleyne, so yeah i was just looking for a way to structure the query .. so now I'ma just do  grep <keyword>  <opts> <dirs> <files>
[22:01] <balleyne> delinquentme, don't think that'll work... to use <dirs> and <files> at the end... grep will just go through those both as a list of paths, try to recursively search the first, then the second
[22:02] <delinquentme> balleyne, i like that solution :D
[22:02] <Hypnoz> does anyone know a simpler way to write this bash script? http://pastie.org/3825216
[22:02] <troubled> aww, does that mean balleyne gets the cookie? ;)
[22:03] <Hypnoz> I couldn't do for x in ${var}{1..2}; do
[22:03] <redragoonz> how do i get and external vga to work on 10.4?
[22:03] <balleyne> troubled, nomnomnom
[22:03] <redragoonz> how do i get and external vga to work on 10.4?
[22:03] <troubled> Hypnoz: why not just "for x in a b c; ...."?
[22:03] <redragoonz> when i restart it come up on the screen with the login but dissappears after
[22:04] <Hypnoz> I want a 1 and 2 of each
[22:04] <Hypnoz> so a b c should example to a1 a2 b1 b2 c1 c2
[22:04] <trism> Hypnoz: echo {a,b,c}{1,2}
[22:04] <Hypnoz> redragoonz: did you check "System > Administration > Monitors" >
[22:05] <troubled> trism: +1
[22:05] <Hypnoz> redragoonz: err I guess System > Preferences > Monitors
[22:05] <redragoonz> yes and when i log out it doesnt work
[22:06] <redragoonz> i get the login screen to come up on the external but then it goes out after i enter my pw
[22:06] <Hypnoz> trism: as echo it works, as for loop it doesn't
[22:06] <troubled> Hypnoz: i think the point is that you don't need the nested for loops, an echo will do
[22:07] <Hypnoz> well I want to do some actions on each server hostname in the for loop
[22:07] <Hypnoz> and there are two of each, for which I have a list of just the base without the 1 or 2
[22:08] <Hypnoz> so I want a for loop that goes through the list and expands it out with a <name>1 or <name>2 of each
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> Hypnoz  there may be a specific scripting channel for that
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> like #bash or #C
[22:10] <Hypnoz> MonkeyDust: ya I was gonna try #bash but this channel is always alive and kickin
[22:11] <fl1bbl3> MonkeyDust: or #homework ?
[22:11] <Hypnoz> I'm using ubuntu server so this is also technically ubuntu related :)
[22:11] <Hypnoz> this isn't #homework this is for #realwork
[22:12] <fl1bbl3> to what end?
[22:18] <dreamwave> guys.. is there a way to run some connections trough VPN and others NOT trough VPN (regular internet) ?
[22:18] <Benkinooby> hi, when playing music, the music get's jittery and laggy... /var/log/messages says "pulseaudio[7607]: ratelimit.c: 13 events suppressed" i was not able to find a solution .... i use ubuntu 10.04
[22:21] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, yes
[22:21] <dreamwave> ok.. how do I do that ?
[22:22] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, but i only know about some kind of "hard core way" - you'd have to mess around with iptables... are you familiar with that?
[22:23] <dreamwave> I know how to do it with code.. I need to run a software trough vpn and my browser .. not trough vpn
[22:23] <dreamwave> so, Benkinooby ..you have any ideas about that ?
[22:24] <joeoshawa> I am trying to upload pictures via usb from an htc android phone to ubuntu but there doesn't seem to be a way to transfer files from the phone to the card or to ubuntu directly can anyone help?
[22:24] <joeoshawa> it's android 2.3.5
[22:24] <espen___> exit
[22:25] <joeoshawa> if your trying to quit you forgot the /
[22:26] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, sorry, i was wrong... i tested my idea, but it did not work :( maybe i did something wrong though...
[22:26] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, but it is possible
[22:26] <joeoshawa> sorry its a zte phone
[22:26] <dreamwave> joeoshawa, doesnt the card get mounted when you connect it ?
[22:27] <joeoshawa> yes but i cannot transfer the pics to the card
[22:27] <dreamwave> Benkinooby, yes, in theory .. I'm looking for some kind of ready-to-go-software :)
[22:27] <joeoshawa> some are on the phone
[22:27] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, that was what i expected... that's why i tested it ;)
[22:27] <dreamwave> joeoshawa, you cant transfer the pics from the phone to the card ?
[22:27] <GEEGEEGEE> /msg nickserv identify hitlerWasRight321
[22:27] <dreamwave> GEEGEEGEE, good one
[22:27] <joeoshawa> no there must be a way but i can't find it
[22:28] <joeoshawa> GEEGEEGEE, i would do that in the freenode tab before joining so that doesn't happen
[22:28] <dreamwave> why dont you ask in #android.. seems like its a phone problem
[22:28] <joeoshawa> change your password
[22:29] <joeoshawa> thanks i will
[22:29] <dreamwave> thats not his real pass :D
[22:30] <joeoshawa> no such channel
[22:31] <^Mike> I created a directory in /var/run to hold some sockets and pidfiles for several daemons. After rebooting, the directory is gone - why?
[22:32] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, i just asked in #debian (they don't appreciate ubunutu guys to missuse their channel) and what you're looking for is called "policy routing"
[22:32] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, maybe you can go on with that key word
[22:32] <slikts_> why is oracle making it so difficult to use java?
[22:34] <Boohbah> ^Mike: /var/run is mounted as a tmpfs and is cleared on reboot
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> slikts  why don't you ask them instead of the ubuntu channel?
[22:36] <slikts_> why aren't there packages that download sun java at install time?
[22:36] <Boohbah> slikts_: i thought the idea was to make java easier to use with oracle rdbms and their app servers
[22:36] <Sach> Using Ubuntu 11.04. How do I set up autosave in Gimp 2.6.11?
[22:37] <slikts_> MonkeyDust: installing java is also related to debian, don't you think?
[22:37] <slikts_> MonkeyDust: sorry, related to ubuntu
[22:37] <^Mike> Boohbah: Is it created empty, or can I edit a skeleton somewhere?
[22:38] <Boohbah> ^Mike: i don't know
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> slikts_  http://lwn.net/Articles/472466/
[22:38] <Pessimist> !offtopic
[22:39] <slikts_> MonkeyDust: that doesn't answer my questions, though
[22:39] <Zaitzev> Hey folks.. I've installed vsftpd and was wondering how I can add mounted drives (/media/drives) to be shared. anyone?
[22:39] <edoceo> which packages have the files that are generally located in /etc/ldap/schema ?
[22:39] <slikts_> for instance, why can't java be downloaded at install time
[22:39] <edoceo> I need to re-create those files which have been lost
[22:39] <slikts_> like is done for flash
[22:40] <dreamwave> Benkinooby, thanks.. this looks like what I'm looking for
[22:41] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, have not found a nixe out-of-the-box solution jet :(
[22:42] <New0> hi everyone. i forgot the name of the device. all the adpter: screen, mouse, keyboroard, and a network cable connecting to it. and it's use an RDP kind of connection to connect a VM on the server. what the device's name?
[22:43] <Hebram> dreamweave: It is also known as a "split-tunnel".  You might include that in your searches.
[22:44] <dreamwave> thank you too
[22:44] <samurai> does anyone have a link to a procedure to get adium themes working with Empathy 3.4.1 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:45] <Benkinooby> dreamwave, split tunnel seems to be the better search term for your case
[22:46] <Sach> Using Ubuntu 11.04. How do I set up autosave in Gimp 2.6.11?
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> samurai  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:47] <dreamwave> that was intended for you, Sach
[22:47] <samurai> thanks MonkeyDust definitely give it a try
[22:47] <dreamwave> oh.. no it wasnt
[22:47] <dreamwave> sorry bout that
[22:48] <Sach> dreamwave, what was?
[22:48] <omwubnt> can anyone help me with where I could find a setting to specify how long it takes before my lcd dims to save battery life? I just got a new laptop and after only ~10 seconds of idle time the screen dims to nearly dark to save on battery. This means that if I want to read more than a sentance or two I need to keep moving the mouse just to ensure the screen doesn't go dark
[22:48] <dreamwave> Sach: http://www.gimptalk.com/index.php?/topic/43637-does-gimp-have-an-auto-save-option/
[22:49] <dreamwave> omwubnt, that depends on your graphics environment
[22:49] <dreamwave> kde/gnome or some other stuff..
[22:49] <dreamwave> or are you talking about the terminal
[22:50] <omwubnt> dreamweave: its the latest ubuntu 11.10 running unity
[22:50] <omwubnt> dreamwave*  sorry
[22:51] <dreamwave> omwubnt,  try the main button -> system settings -> screen
[22:52] <dreamwave> there it says "dim screen to save power"
[22:52] <Thete> You guys know by chance what day 12.04 final will be out next week?
[22:53] <wylde> Thete: 26th
[22:53] <Thete> Is it easy to update from beta 2 to final without reinstall?
[22:53] <DJones> !final | Thete
[22:54] <Thete> oh, sweet
[22:54] <dreamwave> and ... where can I see whats new in 12.04 ?
[22:54] <omwubnt> dreamwave: ah yes, not sure how i missed that. do you know if there is anywhere to adjust the time? it would be nice to have the feature, just 10seconds is a littel quick
[22:54] <dreamwave> omwubnt, dont know .. Im sorry
[22:54] <DrManhattan> I have to say I'm quite impressed with 12.04 so far
[22:55] <omwubnt> dreamwave, ok, thanks for the help
[22:55] <DrManhattan> dreamwave, if you try it out make sure to use the daily build version not the official beta if you have raid
[22:55] <dreamwave> i dont
[22:55] <dreamwave> how do I upgrade from 11.10 to the latest ?
[22:56] <DrManhattan> raid is a disaster on the official beta of 12.04 in every single version I could find, but raid worked fantastic with the daily build, it even picked up and installed on an nvraid hardware raid0
[22:56] <dreamwave> nah .. I'm using it on an old notebook
[22:56] <Logan_> DrManhattan, dreamwave: 12.04 discussion/support is in #ubuntu+1
[22:56] <dreamwave> k, I'll go ask
[22:57] <booi> how do you make the menu bar appear all the time instead of just hovering over in Unity?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> dreamwave  try do-release-upgrade
[23:00] <dreamwave> update-manager -d (as root)
[23:00] <dreamwave> :)
[23:00] <optikx> ubuntu rules!
[23:01] <yjacket> I just installed Ubuntu Server 11.10 on a pc , and ifconfig isn't showing any ethernet hardware devices... there is a cable plugged into it and it lights up, maybe a driver issue?
[23:01] <yjacket> **the computer has an ethernet port, but Ubuntu Server 11.10 doesn't seem to see it
[23:03] <troubled> yjacket: i'd probably see if ifconfig -a shows anything (implying it isn't active/configured), or if nothing there, maybe dmesg and syslog
[23:03] <yjacket> thanks troubled, let me try those
[23:03] <troubled> yjacket: no promises though. the fact that it isn't configured doesn't sound promising :)
[23:04] <optikx> how many drivers does ubuntu have for ethernet cards
[23:04] <optikx> built in
[23:05] <yjacket> troubled: I see it with the -a command
[23:05] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:06] <angs> suicide?
[23:06] <troubled> yjacket: well, if thats the case it sounds like its working fine, just not configured fully
[23:06] <optikx> epsilon
[23:07] <troubled> yjacket: unfortunately, I only know debian on server, which puts stuff in /etc/network/interfaces, so I can't say with certanty that ubuntu server uses the same file
[23:08] <ssta> it does
[23:08] <troubled> ssta: thanks, good to know
[23:08] <MilitoD> ciao a tutti
[23:08] <optikx> do you guys give ubuntu linux tutorials like quick references im new to linux
[23:08] <MilitoD> !list
[23:09] <troubled> yjacket: in that case, maybe "man interfaces" will help you
[23:09] <ssta> Ubuntu Desktop does too...but most people bypas that with the network applet thingy
[23:09] <optikx> whats the manpages command? how do i use it?
[23:09] <ssta> optikx: man <command>
[23:09] <yjacket> troubled: ok, ill try that,
[23:10] <ssta> optikx: manpages are most useful for reference.  Not reallhy for leaning the command to start with...at least until you're experienced at reading them
[23:10] <Hebram> optikx:  I wonder if your interface is up.  Try sudo ifconfig eth0 up.
[23:10] <troubled> ssta: ya true. personally i dont like that network app thingy. makes me feel lost when trying to tweak and diagnose things :)
[23:10] <optikx> hebram: Im have wifi internet its working fine
[23:11] <ssta> troubled: that's the eternal tradeoff between power and ease.  To make stuff easy, it is necessary to simplify and reduce power (usually)
[23:11] <Hebram> Im sorry.  I meant yjacket. 0-)
[23:11] <optikx> :)
[23:12] <troubled> ssta: no doubt :) nothing wrong with having things easy for the home users, but I do have days where I miss the "old way" of some things
[23:13] <yjacket> troubled: there are no entries for eth0, I guess I should probably add it to there :P
[23:13] <ssta> troubled: mostly the old way is still there behind the scenes
[23:13] <Hebram> yjacket:  What entries do you have?
[23:14] <yjacket> Hebram: just loopback "lo"
[23:14] <yjacket> Hebram let me list all of them, theres only like two
[23:14] <troubled> yjacket: hmm, did you not get asked network questions during install?
[23:15] <yjacket> troubled: I wasn't connected at the time when I was installing it... :/ I just got the chance to hook it up now
[23:16] <yjacket> "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" are all I see, I suppose I could try reinstalling?
[23:16] <troubled> yjacket: ahh. either way, simple enough to fix that. google should have hundreds of examples of the interface file. probably a good time to commit it to memory yourself though :)
[23:17] <yjacket> yep, thanks for identifying the problem troubled!
[23:18] <troubled> yjacket: no worries. good luck o/
[23:19] <agoodm> With the i915 is it possible to assign more video ram than the default 256M?
[23:20] <troubled> agoodm: just a guess, but you try looking in the bios?
[23:20] <agoodm> yes there isnt an option
[23:20] <agoodm> in windows its dynamically assigned afaik
[23:24] <robert0> brazilians here?
[23:26] <nursedad> would it be feasible to duel boot with win 7. using only a minimal amount of disk space for the ubuntu install and swap partitions then use the NTFS configuration tool to use the windows documents, pictures, video folders as the ubuntu stotage folders?
[23:32] <nursedad> would it be feasible to duel boot with win 7. using only a minimal amount of disk space for the ubuntu install and swap partitions then use the NTFS configuration tool to use the windows documents, pictures, video folders as the ubuntu stotage folders?
[23:34] <jrib> nursedad: sure, you could keep documents and media on your windows partition
[23:37] <nursedad> jrib are there any negatives to doing it this  way
[23:37] <jrib> nursedad: well there's some initial setup on your part (you'll want to setup some symlinks), but I can't think of any negative...
[23:37] <Solid07> be careful if you ever decide to reformat your windows partition.
[23:38] <jrib> nursedad: just make sure you use it only for documents and media.  You do NOT want to use it for your entire home
[23:38] <Solid07> i usually store all my doc's and media files on a separate hard-drive
[23:38] <Solid07> and have separate partitions for OS's
[23:39] <nursedad> jrib ah there it is you saying dont use it as home made me realize why it shouldnt do that
[23:41] <Busy> Hi, doing a clean install of 11.10 keeps failing on me using the live CD. It failed to a desktop environment and I'm poking around in /var/log/installer looking for clues. Any advice?
[23:41] <Busy> from debug - /root/.pangorc permission denied
[23:41] <nursedad> jrib so how big do you think I should make the /home partition?
[23:42] <Busy> also unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[23:44] <PSYDUCK> how do i install ubuntu?
[23:44] <jrib> !install | PSYDUCK
[23:44] <PSYDUCK> ok
[23:44] <jrib> nursedad: I imagine you could make it very small...
[23:46] <nursedad> jrib one more question. if i install the 12.4 beta can I update it as usual?
[23:46] <jrib> nursedad: yes, you can update as usual and end up with the final release when it is released
[23:47] <nursedad> jrib thank you for the help
[23:47] <jrib> nursedad: I think a gig is probably enough if you're keeping all the docs and media elsewhere
[23:48] <nursedad> jrib ok tks again
[23:48] <Busy> Is there anywhere other than /var/log/installer I should be looking for reasons the install failed?
[23:48] <jrib> Busy: did you checksum your install cd?
[23:48] <Busy> yes, it was fine
[23:49] <Busy> Also I experienced  the same problem trying to install XBMC on this box. It uses the same ubuntu installer
[23:49] <jrib> Busy: you could try the alternate install
[23:50] <Busy> Would that be the 11.10 version of ubuntu-12.04-beta2-alternate-i386.iso  ?
[23:51] <smrtz> hey, anyone have any expereince with luks?  I'm trying to follow this: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43665 and I could use some help, I'm on backtrack, but noones active on there channel...
[23:52] <bazhang> smrtz, be patient , thats where backtrack is supported
[23:53] <smrtz> bazhang: I've waited a about 6 min, but ok.
[23:53] <nursedad> smrtz why duel boot with backtrack im just wondering
[23:53] <smrtz> bazhang: it's just weird, comeing from a channel like this, were everyones talking, to that, it's a change.
[23:54] <smrtz> nursedad: actually, I normally run arch linux, but needed a debian base for school, so I figured I'd try backtrack because it can do everything ubuntu can, but comes with more hacking programs, and those might be fun to mess with when I'm in class...
[23:54] <Busy> ok, I found the right link for the alternate installer. I'll try that.
[23:54] <dax> hi
[23:55] <nursedad> lol
[23:55] <Davide> !list
[23:56] <glenford> where does apt-get source download to?
[23:56] <smrtz> nursedad: yeah, ubuntu's great for new users and pros, but I feel like the extra tools could be fun.
[23:56] <lucid> Does ubuntu have official themes?
[23:57] <dax> glenford: the current directory
[23:57] <glenford> dax: thanks
[23:58] <lucid> i am here for conferm that ubuntu have official site for themes?because i dont use third party themes
[23:59] <yakster> can somone please help me with a command syntax? I need to recursivly search and delete .AppleDouble from a network NAS. Every folder has this .AppleDouble in it… I need it recursivly gone..