[00:20] <aaron__> Hi, does anyone know a good ISP?
[00:20] <aaron__> I am looking for one that allows servers.
[00:20] <aaron__> I currently am with WOW (wide open west)
[00:22] <aaron__> I looked at comcast but they are expensive and won't tell you the total amount unless you place an order.
[00:38] <wizardslovak> can i connect external hard drive to ubuntu server and use it as NAS?
[00:38] <wizardslovak> i am running web server and email server on it already
[00:39] <wizardslovak> will it be able to run all those aplications?
[00:39] <wizardslovak> or samba?
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> wizardslovak, yes
[01:03] <wizardslovak> so i plugged external hard drive but server doesnt see it
[01:05] <Mick27> anyone knows a way to automate fdisk in one line ? I would like to erase all old partition, create a new one with the entire disk and set it as 8e (lvm)
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> wizardslovak, 'doesnt see it'?
[01:14] <wizardslovak> yes
[01:14] <wizardslovak> i see only disk OS is installed on
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> what does "see" mean?
[01:36] <twb> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent of RHCE?
[01:36]  * twb finds https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[01:45] <twb> Seems that's training for desktop users, not admins.
[01:48] <ajmitch> I believe there's certification
[01:48] <ajmitch> based on the ILP exams
[01:48] <ajmitch> sigh
[01:48] <ajmitch> LPI exams
[01:49] <ajmitch> http://www.ubuntu.com/training/certificationcourses
[01:56] <twb> Thanks.
[01:56] <twb> The trick was to search for "ubuntu certification" instead of "ubuntu training".
[01:57] <wizardslovak> damn $2500
[01:57] <wizardslovak> can i just take test without class?
[01:57] <ajmitch> no idea
[01:58] <wizardslovak> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=481&osCsid=97ca5543b693aeaca13d933713db193d
[02:02] <twb> wizardslovak: surely that *is* just the test
[02:03] <twb> I would expect the study materials to be cheap (or even free of charge), and the final test to be expensive.
[02:05] <wizardslovak> twb: same here , i would rather go for test lol
[02:07] <wizardslovak> i am just checking amazon for some good ubuntu server book
[02:07] <wizardslovak> what do you say??
[02:08] <twb> Hopefully someone in here has cowritten one and can recommend it!
[02:08] <wizardslovak> http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Ubuntu-Server-Administration-Professional/dp/1590599233
[02:08] <wizardslovak> i have that official ubuntu book but they cover server quickly
[02:08] <twb> wizardslovak: look for one that specifically mentions U199 or whatever the code thingy is
[02:10] <wizardslovak> well right now i just want to get better with ubuntu , then ill look for test
[02:10]  * ajmitch doesn't expect the test to be overly easy
[02:11] <wizardslovak> http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Administration-Network-Professionals-Library/dp/0071598928/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242695433&sr=1-5
[02:11] <wizardslovak> or this
[02:11] <wizardslovak> http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-8-Server-Administration-Reference/dp/098177783X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242695433&sr=1-3
[02:16] <twb> Man, amazon's site is fugly if you're using w3m.
[02:16] <wizardslovak> is there better site for books?? well no really
[02:18] <twb> I don't know; I generally only read public domain and copyleft material.
[02:18] <wizardslovak> well
[02:18] <wizardslovak> i prefer chat tho
[02:18] <wizardslovak> best way to learn
[02:18] <wizardslovak> but when i am on road to work i prefer read paper books
[02:18] <twb> Searching amazon for "ubuntu 199" gets three items, all being Michael Jang's UCP Study Guide.
[02:19] <twb> uvirtbot: shut up
[02:19] <twb> Bah.  If tell fsbot to shut up, it apologizes.
[02:20] <ajmitch> uvirtbot is not that smart
[02:20] <twb> Ha!
[02:20] <twb> If freenode had its shit together, it'd provide a unified infobot for all channels.
[02:26] <wizardslovak> soo
[02:26] <wizardslovak> http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-8-Server-Administration-Reference/dp/098177783X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242695433&sr=1-3
[02:26] <wizardslovak> ill takr this
[03:38] <thewrathjr> whats on the agenda for tomorrow?
[03:39] <wizardslovak> what subject?
[03:40] <thewrathjr> i was just wondering what would be discussed tomorrow
[03:40] <ajmitch> if you're referring to the weekly meeting, the next one won't be until the 2nd
[03:40] <wizardslovak> w/e u have problem with
[03:40] <wizardslovak> weekly meeting??
[03:40] <wizardslovak> where?
[03:40] <thewrathjr> ajmitch why not tomorrow
[03:40] <thewrathjr> on the schedule its tomorrow
[03:40] <ajmitch> thewrathjr: because of people travelling, UDS, etc
[03:40] <thewrathjr> oho k
[03:41] <thewrathjr> thats fine
[03:41] <thewrathjr> ajmitch what time is the meetings usually EDT?
[03:41] <ajmitch> wizardslovak: in #ubuntu-meeting
[03:41] <ajmitch> thewrathjr: no idea, I only know it's 15:00 UTC
[03:42] <ajmitch> I presume that's about 8:00 EDT
[03:42] <ajmitch> but I don't live in that timezone
[03:43] <wizardslovak> damn i didnt know that there are meetings
[03:43] <ajmitch> wizardslovak: it's just to plan out development
[03:46] <thewrathjr> ajmitch: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=2&year=2009&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
[03:46] <thewrathjr> 11am
[03:46] <ajmitch> ok
[03:47] <ajmitch> I was thinking PDT
[03:47]  * ajmitch lives in NZST, so conversion to UTC is easy
[03:47] <thewrathjr> ah
[04:00] <wizardslovak> ok so
[04:01] <wizardslovak> i found why my email server doesnt send nor receive emails
[04:01] <wizardslovak> failed sasl autherization
[04:01] <wizardslovak> what should i do? can anyone helpme to fix i t?
[04:01] <wizardslovak> postfix and dovecot + squirrelmail
[04:02] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Look in your logs and give us the exact error.  Also pastebin the output of postconf -n
[04:04] <wizardslovak> postconf http://pastebin.com/m158b1e2f
[04:04] <wizardslovak> mail.err http://pastebin.com/m1391d2bf
[04:09] <wizardslovak> error i am getting when sending email is "message not sent.Server replied"
[04:12] <wizardslovak> so anyone?
[04:13]  * ScottK looks
[04:14] <wizardslovak> ScottK:  thx
[04:16] <ScottK> wizardslovak: deliver(root) is dovecot telling you it doesn't know where to send mail for postmaster.
[04:17] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Which release are you running?
[04:18] <wizardslovak> i dont really know how to chceck it
[04:18] <ajmitch> but you know which cd you installed from
[04:18] <ajmitch> weren't you running 9.04, and using dovecot-postfix?
[04:19] <ScottK> wizardslovak: What does less /etc/lsb-release tell you?
[04:19] <wizardslovak> yes i upgraded from 8.04 so i had to install postfix-dovecot
[04:20] <wizardslovak> ubuntu 9.04
[04:20] <wizardslovak> i got imap so i can use squirrelmail
[04:22] <wizardslovak> so problem will be in dovecot-postfic.conf
[04:24] <ScottK> wizardslovak: You edited /etc/postfix/main.cf, didn't you?
[04:24] <wizardslovak> yes
[04:27] <ScottK> Why did you change smtpd_recipient_restrictions?
[04:27] <wizardslovak> i didnt change that
[04:28] <wizardslovak> it was there
[04:28] <wizardslovak> is something wrong with it
[04:28] <ScottK> You have smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination
[04:28] <wizardslovak> yes
[04:29] <ScottK> dovecot-postfix installs smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, reject_unauth_pipelining, permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination
[04:29] <wizardslovak> so i chould put those
[04:29] <wizardslovak> let me do it
[04:31] <wizardslovak> ok i changed it to those you sent me
[04:31] <ScottK> That's not directly related to your problem at hand, but those are better.
[04:31] <wizardslovak> yes
[04:32] <ScottK> Can you pastebin /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[04:32] <ScottK> I use cyrus-sasl for SASL, so I may not be able to help you with this part, but let's have a look.
[04:32] <wizardslovak> how should i copy all conf for pastebin?
[04:33] <wizardslovak> btw dovecot.conf wont help you that much
[04:33] <ScottK> It wont?
[04:33] <wizardslovak> dovecot-postfic.conf is the one which will dovecot use
[04:33] <ScottK> Where's the dovecot sasl stuff then?
[04:33] <ScottK> OK.  I'll take that one.
[04:33] <ScottK> Install the package pastebinit
[04:34] <ScottK> Then do:
[04:34] <ScottK> pastebinit $FILENAME and give me the url it gives back\
[04:35] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/f357c4df8
[04:46] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Line 860 is the one I was looking for.  You do have sasl mechanisms defined.
[04:46] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Look in /var/log/mail.log and get the entire transaction around one of those sasl errors
[04:48] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m5dde9574
[04:49] <wizardslovak> btw how can i go to line 860 quickly?
[04:51] <ScottK> vim $FILENAME +860 does it for me, but then I use vim.
[04:51] <wizardslovak> u mean mechanisms = plain login
[04:52] <ScottK> Yep
[04:52] <ScottK> The complaint in the error was that there weren't any mechanism defined.  There are.
[04:53] <wizardslovak> hmm maybe mine are wrong or something
[04:54] <ScottK> That's why I want the rest of the log entries around the error to see what else is going on
[04:56] <wizardslovak> mail.log or mail.err?
[04:57] <ScottK> mail.log
[04:57] <wizardslovak> it wont pastebin
[04:58] <ScottK> Not the entire file
[04:58] <ScottK> Find the entry from mail.err (one of them) and get as many lines as you can before that
[04:59] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m795d92bd here is tail of mail.log
[05:01] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m15b08974 tail from mail.err
[05:02] <ScottK> wizardslovak: I need the bits around 23:30:40 server1 postfix/smtpd[24058]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
[05:02] <ScottK> Submit a correction or amendment below (click here to make a fresh posting)
[05:02] <ScottK> Oops
[05:03] <wizardslovak> how to get those bits?
[05:03] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Your snippet ends at May 14 22:33:00
[05:03] <wizardslovak> i know
[05:03] <ScottK> That's not the end of the file.
[05:04] <ScottK> I can't help you further without the log and I'm really up to explaining how to get it.
[05:04] <ScottK> If you get it, feel free to ping me.
[05:05] <wizardslovak> hmmm
[05:05] <wizardslovak> can i use cyrus sasl?
[05:05] <ScottK> It's harder to set up
[05:05] <ScottK> I only use it out of ineertia
[05:06] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m62b3c1ab
[05:07] <wizardslovak> i think this will help the most http://pastebin.com/mce5e11f
[05:07] <ScottK> looking
[05:08] <ScottK> Now we're getting somewhere
[05:08] <wizardslovak> it says connect to private/dovecot-auth failed.no such file directory
[05:08] <wizardslovak> means i am missing folder
[05:09] <ScottK> In 8.10 it was different
[05:09] <ScottK> In /etc/postfix/main.cf try smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth-client, postfix restart, and then see what happens
[05:11] <wizardslovak> i have it there already
[05:12] <ScottK> Which?  auth-client or dovecot-auth?
[05:12] <wizardslovak> ooo i got dovecot-auth
[05:14] <wizardslovak> ok still doesnt work
[05:15] <ScottK> OK.  Same error (look in mail.log)?
[05:15] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m2b555149
[05:19] <Doonz> sorry guys have a lame question but im stumped. my server (i just upgraded to 9.04) i cant seem to access the internet from it
[05:19] <Doonz> locally im fine (on the lan)
[05:20] <wizardslovak> did you assign ip and open 80 for it?
[05:21] <Doonz> i mean just to update like apt-get and stuff
[05:21] <wizardslovak> so you cant apt-get install anything??
[05:21] <Doonz> i cant ping any internet adresses from the box itself
[05:22] <ScottK> wizardslovak: What does postconf  |grep queue_directory produce?
[05:22] <wizardslovak> ScottK: queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
[05:22] <ScottK> wizardslovak: OK. That's what it should be.
[05:23] <ScottK> wizardslovak: How about ls -l /var/spool/postfix
[05:23] <ScottK> Pastebin that please.
[05:24] <Doonz> wizardslovak: any chance it installed a firewall?
[05:24] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m60d34031
[05:24] <ScottK> Doonz: Ubuntu Server does not activate the included firewall.
[05:24] <Doonz> hmm
[05:24] <Doonz> im confused
[05:24] <wizardslovak> Doonz: try sudo ufw status numbered
[05:25] <ScottK> wizardslovak: ls -l /var/spool/postfix/private
[05:25] <Doonz> wizardslovak: status inactive
[05:25] <ScottK> So no firewall.
[05:25] <wizardslovak> Doonz: so no you dont have firewall
[05:26] <Doonz> ok
[05:26] <wizardslovak> damn couple weeks ago i didnt know nothing about ubuntu and now i know something heheh
[05:26] <Doonz> im completely stumped
[05:26] <ScottK> Doonz: It worked fine in 8.10?
[05:27] <wizardslovak> ScottK: http://pastebin.com/m69cbdfb7
[05:27] <Doonz> ScottK: yep
[05:27] <Doonz> im confused
[05:27] <wizardslovak> try ping server ip
[05:28] <wizardslovak> does router have port 80 open for server?
[05:28] <Doonz> im connect remotely through ssh into the headless server
[05:28] <Doonz> but im only on the local lan
[05:28] <ScottK> Doonz: You can connect to it on the local lan?
[05:28] <Doonz> i am
[05:28] <ScottK> wizardslovak: So you problem is that dovecot isn't listening there.
[05:29] <ScottK> you/your
[05:29] <wizardslovak> did you config static ip on server?
[05:29] <Doonz> yep
[05:29] <ScottK> wizardslovak: His server has an IP, he couldn't ssh to it if it didn't.
[05:29] <ScottK> Doonz: So you problem is from your server outbound?
[05:29] <wizardslovak> ScottK: how can i fix it then?
[05:30] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Now we get to the part where I say "Dunno.  I don't use dovecot."
[05:30] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Look for ivoks around tomorrow and ask him.
[05:30] <wizardslovak> ivoks?
[05:30] <wizardslovak> ok
[05:30] <Doonz> ScottK: yes
[05:30] <ScottK> Yes, he's they guy that wrote dovecot-postfix script.
[05:31] <ScottK> Doonz: Can you ping your router?
[05:31] <wizardslovak> ScottK:  do you have his email?
[05:31] <Doonz> ScottK: think i got it
[05:31] <Doonz> thanx alter
[05:31] <ScottK> wizardslovak: He lives in Croatia, he'll be sleeping right now.  He's usually here during his day.
[05:31] <wizardslovak> hmm i know i want to leave im message tho
[05:32] <Doonz> ive got other wierd things happening
[05:32] <ScottK> wizardslovak: I don't have it, but that's enough information to find it in Launchpad.
[05:32] <wizardslovak> Doonz:  ??
[05:32] <wizardslovak> ScottK: launchpad?
[05:33] <Doonz> cant assign manual ip, webmin isnt able to installl mdadm module
[05:33] <ScottK> wizardslovak: launchpad.net, the Ubuntu bug tracker.
[05:33] <ScottK> Doonz: We don't support webmin, so I can't help you there.
[05:33] <Doonz> Yeah i kno
[05:36] <wizardslovak> hmmm
[05:36] <wizardslovak> ScottK: where are you from tho
[05:37] <ScottK> I live outside Baltimore, MD, USA
[05:37] <wizardslovak> and you still dont sleep
[05:37] <ScottK> Nah.   Sleep is for the weak.
[05:37] <wizardslovak> yeap
[05:38] <wizardslovak> i never been on launchpad and it says my email is registered
[05:39] <ScottK> That's the Ubuntu bug tracker and lots more.   If you're going to use Ubuntu, you probably want to register
[05:42] <wizardslovak> ScottK: i wrote him email
[05:42] <ScottK> OK
[05:44] <wizardslovak> i did include tail from mail.warn
[05:44] <wizardslovak> so hopefully he will answer
[05:44] <wizardslovak> ScottK: if i am not that big headache for you i would like to ask more questions
[05:45] <ScottK> You can ask.  No promises on answers.
[05:45] <wizardslovak> i connected external hard drive to server but server doesnt see it "df -h"
[05:45] <wizardslovak> can i set it up for samba?
[05:45] <ScottK> I know zip about Samba
[05:46] <wizardslovak> zip mean nothing?
[05:46] <ScottK> Yep
[05:46] <wizardslovak> ok well nothing so far
[05:46] <wizardslovak> what about NAS?
[05:47] <ScottK> Nope.  In server terms I'm pretty much a mail server guy
[05:48] <wizardslovak> sysadmin?
[05:50] <ScottK> That underlies all of it, so sure.
[05:50] <wizardslovak> hehe
[05:50] <wizardslovak> i ordered couple books so cant wait to read them
[05:50] <ScottK> Professionally I'm a system engineer, but I also know a bit about running systems.
[05:51] <wizardslovak> apache2 , mysql,ubuntu server
[05:51] <wizardslovak> whats system engineer? A+??
[05:52] <kgoetz> whats A+?
[05:53] <wizardslovak> kgoetz: http://certification.comptia.org/a/
[06:00] <kgoetz> hm
[06:02] <twb> wizardslovak: you can be employed and have a title without any certification.
[06:02] <wizardslovak> twb: really? usually they ask for those
[06:02] <wizardslovak> at least here in NY
[06:03] <twb> Norway?
[06:03] <ScottK> New York
[06:03] <wizardslovak> lol
[06:03] <ScottK> I'm old and crusty enough to tell them where they can put their certifications.
[06:03] <wizardslovak> heheh
[06:03] <twb> ScottK: ever get your sleeve caught in a disk drive?
[06:04] <wizardslovak> i always wanted to learn ubuntu server and couple weeks ago i say i gotta do it before i will be too old hehe
[06:04] <ScottK> No, but I did drop a deck of punch cards I'd failed to number.
[06:04] <wizardslovak> only think i did for servers were power circuits
[06:04] <twb> ScottK: that's why you draw a diagonal line down them
[06:04] <wizardslovak> and i did hate that IT dumbass
[06:05] <ScottK> twb: Yeah, well one learns after.
[06:06] <wizardslovak> funny think ubuntu was much easier then windows
[06:07] <ScottK> Of course
[06:10] <twb> It depends if you like using a mouse, or like adding 500 users in twenty minutes
[06:22] <ajmitch> twb: don't remind me of days gone by when I got to help with administering NT domains at a school
[06:23] <twb> Ah, well, it's all LDAP now...
[08:02] <sluimers> hello there
[08:03] <sluimers> Hi, I've got problems trying to setup a mail server. My e-mails seem to end up in /var/mail/vmail. They should go to /home/vmail/user.
[08:03] <sluimers> /home/vmail/mydomainname/user
[08:04] <sluimers> I use postfix 2.5.5 and courier 0.60,.
[08:31] <Tuxist> hi
[08:54] <cef> Just been playing with kvm/libvirt and python-vm-builder, I can't see how the system would shut down any running vm's when you issue a reboot. I can't see anything that could do it in the init.d scripts. Any ideas?
[09:06] <twb> No.
[09:06] <twb> No.
[10:42] <a_ok> should i install linux-server or stick with the -generic kernel?
[13:12] <ddoom_> I tried to setup a software raid 5 with lvm on it, installed fine and grub ran but I got an error: device-mapper: table 252:0 raid45: unknown target type - after the error it drops to BusyBox - ubuntu server 9.04 amd64
[13:26] <tadeu_> guys, i installed ubuntu server and "gnome-desktop-environment" package. Do you know what are the language packages ? I'd like PT_BR language
[13:27] <tadeu_> my shell is in PT_BR, just gnome isn't
[13:42] <dguitar> Why don't u just use Ubuntu desktop?
[13:45] <ScottK> tadeu_: Gnome is off topic for the server channel in any case.
[13:46] <gaveen> ddoom_, better try to install with a /boot partition outside the lvm configuration. Just a small /boot with something like 50MB would do
[13:46] <ddoom_> pretty sure thats what i did
[13:55] <juxta> I just added a new drive to a raid 5 array and reshaped the array to fill the extra space. Now i'm trying to resize the filesystem to use the extraspace using resize2fs, but it says 'nothing to do' and doesn't see the extra space.
[14:08] <nickoe> Hi
[14:09] <nickoe> I got a IBM eServer xSeries, how do I install Ubuntu on it?
[14:33] <Jeeves_> surf to http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[14:33] <Jeeves_> Download and burn the iso of your choice
[14:33] <Jeeves_> install Ubuntu
[14:43] <a_ok> Jeeves_: if i recall properly you where good with mysql
[14:43] <Jeeves_> a_ok: I doubt that :)
[14:44] <a_ok> Jeeves_: hmmm glad databases are usually more releiable than my memory
[14:46] <Jeeves_> a_ok: :)
[14:47] <a_ok> Jeeves_: i did a realease upgrade on one of my servers now all the sudden my starting relay-bin log is gone...
[14:51] <Jeeves_> a_ok: That's too bad. But I'm really no mysql guru :)
[14:52] <a_ok> Jeeves_: yeah figured that
[14:54] <a_ok> Jeeves_: I think i have it fixed
[15:34] <Pres-Gas> Hey, if /usr/local is expoted wiht nfs and root_squash to a client, can a file that is setuid and owned by root on the share be acted on or does root_squash only act when, say root on the client tries to rm the same file on the share?
[15:35] <Pres-Gas> I don't think the man page for exports is clear on this.
[15:39] <greenfly> Pres-Gas: from my understanding, root_squash prevents root on the client from being root
[15:39] <stickystyle> root_squash acts whenever the effective uid is 0
[15:39] <greenfly> but doesn't affect root on the server
[15:40] <Pres-Gas> So, gentlefolk, if there is a file that needs to be setuid and owned by root to work on the share (/usr/local/bin for example), it should work properly?
[15:41] <Pres-Gas> Cos that was my interpretation from the man pages...but really wanted to fact-check myself
[15:41] <Pres-Gas> ...if I wanted to remove it as root from the client, I would get denied, right?
[15:42] <stickystyle> Pres-Gas:  No, it will not work.  if the file is 700 root:root on the NFS server and a client has it mounted, and the client trys to execute it as their local root it will not work
[15:43] <Pres-Gas> I have someone who is attempting to share the juniper networks ssl-vpn "Network Connect" client and it seems to work with my testing, though stickystyle.
[15:43] <Pres-Gas> Hmmmm....
[15:44] <stickystyle> Well, to be honest....I'm not 100% on what would happen with a setuid file...
[15:45] <Pres-Gas> Gerr...no one is.  I guess it is time to play some more.  ;)
[15:46] <greenfly> Pres-Gas: it's possible that it will work in that root_squash ignores when the client claims it is uid 0
[15:46] <Pres-Gas> nfsd bases its access control to files on the server machine on the uid
[15:47] <Pres-Gas>         and gid provided in each NFS RPC request.
[15:47] <Pres-Gas> ...from the man page....
[15:47] <greenfly> but yeah, I'm not quite sure what it would do if a non-root user on the client executed that setuid file that's on the server
[15:48] <Pres-Gas> So, I would interpret that as the mapping is only on the server side...the client should still see it as owned by root and can act on it (reading the file/executing) no problem...
[15:50] <Pres-Gas> Hey, I have some vms set up...going to try and act on, then remove some files...bear with me.
[15:50] <Pres-Gas> I did not really want to manipulate them...but sounds like we should all find out eh?
[15:51] <stickystyle> Yeah, your hypothesis sounds correct.  Lets all watch and find out :)
[15:51]  * Pres-Gas is futzing about with his vm's now...please hold...
[15:52]  * Pres-Gas turns on the muzak
[15:55] <beawesomeinstead> does anyone know if $5000/month for 100MBit/s is ok?
[15:56] <Jeeves_> beawesomeinstead: Ehm, it's a bit much :)
[15:56] <Jeeves_> beawesomeinstead: Depending on where you live
[15:59] <beawesomeinstead> Jeeves_: europe. they told me this also includes 2U spot for a server. i could negotiate this, and wonder how much 100Mbps usually cost?
[15:59] <beawesomeinstead> (400W max)
[16:01] <Pres-Gas> Okay, the setuid worked and I cannot delete it from the client as root.
[16:01] <Jeeves_> beawesomeinstead: Can you do 100mbit/s all the time?
[16:01] <Jeeves_> beawesomeinstead: Also, europe is kinda big :)
[16:01] <beawesomeinstead> Jeeves_: unmetered
[16:02] <stickystyle> Pres-Gas:  Cool.  Good to know for sure.
[16:02] <Pres-Gas> So, once you execute a file, and the client sees the file as setuid and owned by root, the CLIENT acts as if it is local...no rpc calls to the server except for reading really...
[16:02] <Jeeves_> beawesomeinstead: We ask EUR 2000 for 100mbit, or so
[16:03] <Pres-Gas> It is when you are making a write/remove type rpc call to the server when the SERVER maps root to nobody...then the server reports back to the client Permission Denied.
[16:03] <Pres-Gas> I feel better now....and this is logged somewhere so others may know as well.
[16:57] <oruwork> hi, can someone recommend a web based task management program to schedule tasks and deadlines for a small organization?
[17:02] <genii> oruwork: phprojekt is not bad
[17:07] <stanman1> hi, am trying to install 8.04 LTS on a proliant DL140 G3, but the installer can't find the nic's, can i just continue with installing and then add the nics later?
[17:15] <joe-mac> hey is anyone here that is knowledgable on network preseeding? I have other preseeds working but this one is failing at install but parses on the build server with debconf-set-selections -c <file>. I need to know what steps to take to get some debug logs out of this. i've done it before but i can't recallf or the life of me and didn't easily find it on the google.
[17:16] <joe-mac> heading to lunch, if anyone feels like they want to help, feel free to just say my name in your message, will respond when i get back, thanks
[17:17] <tchough> does anyone know what the preferred method of launching a process as a certain user from an init script is?
[17:18] <tchough> i'm guess it's not "su -" because that requires a system user's shell to be something other than /bin/false
[17:20] <stanman1> how do i get embedded nics to go up?
[17:24] <jmedina> stanman1: what you mean with "embedded nics"?
[17:26] <genii> tchough: man start-stop-daemon        Then also take a look at /etc/init.d/skeleton
[17:28] <tchough> genii: unfortunately, start-stop-daemon won't work for me... the program i'm trying to run barfs when start-stop-daemon tries to background it... is there another alternative?
[17:29] <tchough> genii: su would fit the bill, but it barfs because the system user's shell is /bin/false, which i'd rather not change
[17:30] <genii> Odd. postfix for instance has no valid shell yet start-stop-daemon can use it
[17:32] <genii> tchough: You could use the script in rc.local and from there the su part for specific user. If no shell for a user, specify something like: su -c "bash whatever/command" username
[17:33] <genii> jmedina: He has dual Broadcom 5721 nic on a Proliant DL140 G3
[17:34] <jmedina> genii: and what is the problem?
[17:34] <tchough> genii: no luck with su -c... i think su will only pass arguments directly to the user's shell
[17:34] <jmedina> stanman1: what is the problem?
[17:36] <tchough> genii: ah, i got it... su -s /bin/sh -c whoami user does it for me... thanks for your help!
[17:36] <genii> tchough: np
[18:05] <al_paun> Hi everybody. Can you please guide me to install a usb modem on ubuntu server?
[18:06] <al_paun> I plan to make it work as a fax modem.
[18:24] <al_paun> Can you please guide me to install a usb modem on ubuntu? I plan to make it work as a fax modem.
[18:28]  * jmedina never required to use modem in linux in 8 years
[18:29] <al_paun> I intend to use as a fax modem
[18:29] <al_paun> fax server
[18:29] <al_paun> hylafax
[18:30] <jmedina> al_paun: which model?
[18:30] <jmedina> is detected when you plug it in?
[18:30] <jmedina> dmesg output
[18:30] <al_paun> i don't have ubuntu desktop
[18:30] <jmedina> ?
[18:30] <al_paun> it's only comand line ubuntu
[18:31] <al_paun> i mean without xwindows
[18:31] <jmedina> well connect it and see dmesg output
[18:31] <jmedina> firt check if is detected
[18:31] <jmedina> al_paun: is it listed in lspci?
[18:31] <jmedina> could you pastebin its output: dmesg and lspci
[18:32] <al_paun> i got no dmesg message
[18:33] <al_paun> i got a message in kern.log
[18:34] <jmedina> probably you dont have usb support loaded or your usb modem is not supported
[18:35] <al_paun> I'll paste what is in kern.log
[18:35] <al_paun> new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[18:35] <al_paun> usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[18:37] <jmedina> al_paun: use pastebin
[18:38] <al_paun> Ok, I'll use but it was only two lines :)
[18:38] <al_paun> sorry
[18:40] <stickystyle> al_paun:  After you plugged it in, did you check to see if you got any new /dev/tty* devices?  It may just work.
[18:40] <al_paun> no
[18:41] <al_paun> i didn't check
[18:42] <al_paun> i have ttyS0
[18:42] <al_paun> which was rewriten
[18:42] <al_paun> i think this one is using
[18:43] <stickystyle> Do you have a serial port on this machine?  if so, ttyS0 is probably the serial port and not the usb modem
[18:43] <al_paun> no I don't
[18:43] <al_paun> it's a new computer
[18:43] <al_paun> only usb ports
[18:43] <al_paun> i even don't have paralel port
[18:44] <al_paun> no paralel and no serial port
[18:44] <al_paun> and the modify date of ttyS0 was changed today 20 minutes ago when I pluged in the modem
[18:45] <al_paun> so I think this one is
[18:45] <jmedina> al_paun: try lsusb
[18:46] <al_paun> what should i search for
[18:46] <al_paun> I have a list of 8 usb bus
[18:46] <stickystyle> try connecting to it with screen then.  $screen /dev/ttyS0 9600
[18:46] <al_paun> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 190d:0001
[18:46] <stickystyle> send "AT" and see if it comes back with "OK"
[18:47] <al_paun> this one is different than 0000:0000
[18:48] <al_paun> just a second (installing screen)
[18:50] <al_paun> when i open screen it's just a blank window with no posibility to enter anything
[18:51] <stickystyle> Then I'm guessing that /dev/ttyS0 is not your modem. It was worth a shot.
[18:52] <al_paun> hmm
[18:52] <al_paun> thanks anyway
[18:53] <jmedina> al_paun: you dont show requiered output from lspci, lsusb or full output from dmesg, it is hard to guess
[18:57] <al_paun> in dmesg i get no message
[18:57] <al_paun> where is lspci output?
[18:58] <al_paun> i can send you lsusb output via pastebin
[18:59] <al_paun> also lspci output
[18:59] <al_paun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/175836/
[19:02] <al_paun> the modem specifications sais that is AT  command compatible
[19:04] <al_paun> its a ITU-T V.92/V.90 modem
[19:11] <slestak> hey guys.  I am using this  last -n 500 | grep still | sort |  awk '{ print $1; }' | uniq -c | uniq -d  to find users logged in more than once.  It is returning me the username, but I would like the result of id for each of the returned results.
[19:12] <slestak> nevermind, works in linux, fails wher im running it (aix)
[19:19] <Lichte> My company just brought our web app over to 8.10 server from suse enterprise 10, and the web app keeps timing out users;  I've used the same settings for apache, and the web app doesn't time out on  the suse box;  any ideas ???
[19:22] <Lichte> BTW: the web app is written in php
[19:29] <genii> Lichte: Possibly the "max_execution_time ="         variable in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[19:32] <Lichte> genii, I've cranked that up I think....I'll look at it again
[19:35] <Lichte> genii, it's *WAY* higher than the max setting on the suse box
[19:37] <genii> Lichte: There is also a socket timeout value which may require setting.
[19:38] <Lichte> genii, yeah, I've set those too
[19:39] <Lichte> the only size difference between the two boxes is the garbage collection time
[19:39] <Lichte> for session garbage collection
[19:41] <genii> Maybe their session becomes invalid before the script finishes
[19:44] <Doonz> hey uys, my server just locked up on me and had to be manually reboot. what log could i look at to see what caused the lock up?
[19:45] <Lichte> genii, ok, I've cranked up the gc time to match the suse box.....hope that does it!
[20:03] <genii> Interesting. Looks like some probing for "/bin/msgimport" going on in this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175877/
[20:05] <genii> Looks related: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=5659
[20:12] <FFForever> i never set the mysql password, how can i set it now?
[20:19] <genii> FFForever: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/resetting-permissions.html           oldie but goodie
[20:20] <FFForever> genii, there is just no way to bring up the password option?, right now the password is blank and the mysqladmin won't accept it =(
[20:29] <genii> FFForever: don't use the "-p" then
[20:38] <Doonz> Does anyone here know of a way to get vmware remote consoles to work through a proxy?
[22:50] <Iceman_B1SSH> how do I upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[23:06] <yeason> ircd-ratbox... any thoughts opinions? I'm trying to find a good irc server daemon, preferably one that works with a services daemon such as atheme-services...
[23:11] <Doonz> Hey guys im running the new 9.04 server edition. The server become unresponsive. I cant ssh into it or anything. When i look at the monitor is got a bunch of info but i cant type anything
[23:12] <Doonz> im able to ping the server from my windows box bu thats about it
[23:12] <yeason> I'm having similar issues with another system... I wish I could tell you what the problem is
[23:12] <yeason> another system as in not server...
[23:13] <Doonz> im so confused
[23:14] <Doonz> the only fix i can do is to reboot the bloody thing but thats not a solution
[23:14] <Doonz> thats a windows fix
[23:15] <yeason> yea... some of the symptoms include you can connect through ssh, it prompts for u/n and p/w but never gives you a prompt or an error, randomly locks up and nothing will work except ping and the reset switch?
[23:15] <Doonz> except for i cant connect through ssh now
[23:15] <yeason> =/
[23:15] <yeason> lol, if you find a solution let me know...
[23:21] <phaidros> hm, is there an out of the box solution to give users access to certain init scripts?
[23:21] <phaidros> Doonz: server should be LTS ;)
[23:26] <Doonz> it is
[23:29] <phaidros> ??? 00:11 < Doonz> Hey guys im running the new 9.04 server edition.
[23:29] <phaidros> 9.04 is LTS ?
[23:29]  * phaidros didn't realize that ..
[23:29] <phaidros> so, seems alot of upgrading is necessarry :(
[23:30] <Doonz> i though t9.04 is lts and 9.10 is the other
[23:30] <phaidros> LTS .. Long Term Support .. 9.04 *and* 9.10 ?
[23:31] <stickystyle> LTS is currently 6.06 and 8.04
[23:31] <phaidros> nope, all I read was from Mark referring to 10.10 as next LTS ..
[23:31] <phaidros> stickystyle: thanks! *phew*
[23:31] <Doonz> ahh shit
[23:31] <phaidros> he was writing the other day, that postponing to 10.10 would help synchronising work with debian guys
[23:31] <phaidros> Doonz: ;)
[23:31] <phaidros> downgrade
[23:32] <Doonz> oh well lts version has a busted version of mdadm in it so yeah
[23:32] <Doonz> 8.04*
[23:32] <phaidros> 8.04 has well running mdadm, for me at least ..
[23:32] <Doonz> dont screw up a grow operation
[23:32] <Doonz> cause you will have to downgrade to 2.6.4
[23:33] <phaidros> ok, good to know
[23:34] <Doonz> yeah
[23:34] <Doonz> not fun... not sure how that big time mess made it through