[00:16] <KGB-0> glib Simon McVittie 359908 * commented merge request !21 * https://deb.li/3HUEe
[06:59] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:20] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[08:40] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:41] <KGB-2> evince Sebastien Bacher 360028 * commented merge request !5 * https://deb.li/3VND0
[09:29] <seb128> goood morning IRC
[09:29] <duflu> Hi seb128
[10:35] <KGB-0> evince ubuntu/jammy 665c9fd Sebastien Bacher debian/ apparmor-profile changelog * Import Debian changes 42.3-0ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/3YjbU
[10:35] <KGB-0> evince ubuntu/jammy fa9e05a Andrej Shadura debian/apparmor-profile * Print dialog requires access to libproxy’s pxgsettings * https://deb.li/34ghn
[10:35] <KGB-0> evince ubuntu/jammy 2a999df Sebastien Bacher debian/changelog * releasing package evince version 42.3-0ubuntu3 * https://deb.li/ijE57
[11:09] <ogra> hrm ... after unlocking my laptop screen this morning all my indicators are duplicated ... on 22.04 ...
[11:14] <oSoMoN> that sounds like a known bug that ken_vandine was experiencing, and Tre_vinho was working on, IIRC
[11:20] <ogra> i heard about that bug before but no in context with jammy
[11:22] <ogra> *not
[13:03] <jbicha> good morning
[19:20] <KGB-2> tracker signed tags 0e76bda Jeremy Bicha upstream/3.4.2 * Upstream version 3.4.2 * https://deb.li/3jEhR
[19:20] <KGB-0> tracker upstream/latest a2f4691 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 67 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/jaZ7
[19:20] <KGB-0> tracker upstream/latest 22af7e7 Carlos Garnacho tests/core/describe/ (6 files) * tests: Make DESCRIBE tests use absolute IRIs * https://deb.li/3ZQod
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[01:15] <SpamapS> micahg: hey, what ever happened to xulrunner? I kind of lost track of mongo and javascript in general...
[01:16] <SpamapS> micahg: err, I meant libmozjs, not xulrunner
[01:17] <SpamapS> thinking and typing should usually be in sync
[01:17]  * SpamapS makes a note
[01:25] <micahg> SpamapS: so, libmozjs is libmozjs185 in ubuntu, I've meant to merge mongodb, will probably do it over vacation and patch it to use the system mozjs
[01:25] <micahg> they ship their own copy now of mozjs
[01:31] <SpamapS> micahg: yeah, thats the answer to all the worlds' problems now.. embed your own version
[01:31] <micahg> yep, that's what mozilla tells people
[01:32]  * micahg wishes Debian would ship mozjs instead of building it from xulrunner, but oh well
[01:39] <mbiebl> micahg: who is maintaining mozjs 1.8.5? What about security updates etc?
[01:39] <micahg> mbiebl: well, if there's a security update, I'll push it out, but we haven't seen any updates yet
[01:40] <mbiebl> I mean, who maintains mozjs upstream?
[01:41] <micahg> wes garland seemed to be doing a lot with it, idk if he's officially maintaining it or not
[01:42] <mbiebl> micahg: we've been discussing that some time ago on #debian-gnome, and there was the question about how security updates are handled for the mozjs branch
[01:42] <mbiebl> afaik it's based off FF4
[01:42] <micahg> was wondering myself recently
[01:43] <mbiebl> and you can't build FF against mozjs, so we'd have two (different) copies of libmozjs
[01:43] <micahg> well, debian still builds mozjs out of xulrunner
[01:43] <mbiebl> so we'd need to discuss that with the security team and the mozilla maintainers
[01:43] <mbiebl> micahg: yeah
[01:44] <micahg> well, Ubuntu is ok with Firefox having its own copies of things since it gets updated every 6 weeks or faster
[01:44] <mbiebl> well, actually it's build from src:iceweasel
[01:44] <mbiebl> not sure if that is what you meant
[01:45] <micahg> mbiebl: well, isn't xulrunner also built from src:iceweasel now?
[01:45] <mbiebl> seems to be
[08:19] <dholbach> good morning
[10:48] <dr3mro> hello .. I have an Idea for precise+1 : That is to rewrite all current Apps that in python like software center and others in Vala and create an ubuntu development environment that will ease the new developers to create projects for ubuntu .. windows got all the apps because it's easier to develop and maintain projects than in linux ..
[10:48] <dr3mro> we need to rewrite compiz for low memory usage  too so plain ubuntu install shouldn't use more than 300MB as windows 8 airms for 256 Mb only we should be prepaired
[10:48] <dr3mro> else we could write unity for mutter if it's difficult to make compiz rewrite as for now unity is great but memory hug and perormance is uncomparable for gnome shell
[10:50] <dr3mro> I am thinking of Glade + gedit + debugger + compiler + UI in Gtk+-3.0 for managing launchpad repository .. test the compilation before upload .. a form for proposing you app in ubuntu/debian  PPA  .. Documentations ..
[10:51] <dr3mro> ubuntu should adopt vala as the default programing language and invest in Vala as it's the future of ubuntu
[10:52] <who_me> what exactly is wrong with python ?
[10:52] <dr3mro> and OS with an integrated development with good documentations for both the OS and the Dev language is what ubuntu needs
[10:53] <who_me> python doesn't have good documentation ? :)
[10:53] <dr3mro> who_me, python is great but it is slower than vala and memory hug
[10:53] <dr3mro> who_me, no I meant vala has no good doumentations
[10:55] <dr3mro> who_me, imagine an integrated dev environment with glade + text editor + debugger + vala documentations + ubuntu documentations about all the infrastructures of ubuntu like how to message the kernel dbus and all that vage stuff for beginners ..
[10:55] <who_me> you mean "hog" probably" and it's not like the linux kernel is written in python, just some utilities. I'd rather have those be complete, easy to debug etc. then redisgn something for the new programing language that seems to be the "rage" of the day :)
[10:56] <who_me> redesign*
[10:56] <dr3mro> who_me, I love the pythonic way in development but after playing with vala for a few days and see the performance difference and low memory usage I am now a vala +1
[10:57] <brendand> i'd say things are more likely to move towards Qt
[10:57] <who_me> that's what I feel too :)
[10:58] <dr3mro> I think ubuntu should focus on the IDE thing and Document offline so new programmers don't have to google for things that very obvious if they are a developers for windows
[10:59] <dr3mro> brendand, Qt project is great but less free than Gtk and thats why its supported by nokia ..but ubuntu is Gtk ?
[10:59] <who_me> umm, developers for windows are part of the "Visual C, C++, Basic and etc" toolset and mindset, it's quite hard to recreate that on any other platfrom
[11:00] <who_me> it's up to them to use something like the QT SDK and try to target multiple platforms
[11:00] <dr3mro> who_me, what about making something for ubuntu like that ? it will make ubuntu tempting for new developers for linux
[11:01] <brendand> to be honest, it's naive to think the problem is around having the 'wrong' tools
[11:01] <brendand> anyway, what's the say the app development community is weak on Linux/Ubuntu?
[11:01] <brendand> games development, yes, but that's a whole different matter
[11:01] <brendand> and some commercial software
[11:02] <brendand> still a nice dev environment would be, well, nice :)
[11:02] <brendand> anway, this should all be discussed on #ubuntu-app-devel
[11:02] <dr3mro> My idea is a Documentation for both Ubuntu services like DBUS and other stuff with Vala and Gtk + and Gobject and ... + debugger + text editor + glade + a frontend for launchpad and an easy way to propose your app for ubuntu /debian repos ?
[11:02] <who_me> dr3mro: problem is like this, try to find a book about programming about C++ and I bet that 99% will make you use MS Visual studio... nothing on using some other IDEs
[11:02] <brendand> why Vala though?
[11:05] <dr3mro> brendand, vala performance and memory usage very smilar to C and easier to learn and write code in few hours like python and it has syntax similar to C# / Java so developers will find it very familiar and it has  a fork that uses the same compiler but syntax is pythonic  it's called `Genie`  ??
[11:09] <who_me> dr3mro: here's an idea, try to implement some of those ideas yourself, get enough followers and maybe you guys will get noticed.  A spin of Ubuntu with Vala based utilities...
[11:10] <dr3mro> who_me, pinguy OS did that already :)
[11:10] <dr3mro> who_me, gnome 3.0 is written mostly in VALA
[11:11] <who_me> gnome 3 is rubbish, not the best example of usage IMO :P
[11:11] <TiMiDo> can someone tell me if my wiki is ok https://wiki.ubuntu.com/aaronfarias
[11:11] <dr3mro> who_me, you mean gnome shell :) ..
[11:11] <TiMiDo> I'm going for membership ;)
[11:11] <who_me> no, I mean gnome 3 with mutter and extensions as a whole
[11:13] <dr3mro> who_me, I find it faster on my laptop that gnome 2 and stylish .. themes are in CSS and the problem is that it's immature and need a year or two before it matures
[11:13] <who_me> they did a rush release, with most of the functionality from the previous version left out and now we are supposed to "beta test" while they slowly fix things by version 3.6 :)
[11:13] <dr3mro> who_me, agree .. but it works not as gnome 2.x but not that bad
[11:14] <dr3mro> who_me, it's better in quality than kde 4.0 when it was released
[11:14] <who_me> that is why I keep my trusty LTS install and try to help kubuntu and kde iron out bugs :/
[11:15] <dr3mro> who_me, looks like you are preparing to go the KDE way soon ..
[11:15] <who_me> dr3mro: yeah, and what did the gnome guys learn from a poorly managed kde 4.0 release ? nothing.
[11:15] <who_me> they did the exact same thing
[11:16] <dr3mro> who_me, they delayed to release a year and more and you can't iron things out if it's now widely tested
[11:18] <who_me> dr3mro: KDE offers a tablet like interface, but they don't force it on me. They give me the classic desktop interface that I've known for a long time and can easily discover. Gnome 3 + shell just chnaged everything and it like "hey, this is how your desktop will look now. like it or else"
[11:19] <who_me> I tend to get moody when stuff is forced down my throat
[11:20] <dr3mro> who_me, you are right ..
[11:21] <who_me> so while G3 is like, look dudes, your workstation just became a tablet PC
[11:22] <who_me> KDE gives me the option to use my machine for what it actually is, be it tablet or workstation
[11:23] <who_me> I'm actualy old enough to remember how Gnome actually came to be, as an answer to the way Qt was licensed back in the days
[11:23] <who_me> KDE 2.x was beautifull in comparison to Gnome back then
[11:26] <who_me> http://www.visionfutur.com/img/histoire/gnome1-1.jpg  versus  http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/large/kde2final_4.jpg
[11:29] <mbiebl> micahg: urgh, the ubuntu mozjs package has different symbols files for each architecture
[11:37] <chrisccoulson> mbiebl, that's because the name mangling is different on each architecture :/
[11:38] <mbiebl> chrisccoulson: hasn't KDE the same problem?
[11:38] <chrisccoulson> mbiebl, yeah, i think so
[11:39] <mbiebl> I think they developed a solution for that
[11:39] <chrisccoulson> i'm sure i asked someone how they solved this problem, and this was the result
[11:39] <chrisccoulson> but that was a while ago
[11:39] <mbiebl> iirc MoDaX worked on that
[11:42] <mbiebl> chrisccoulson: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/kde4libs.git;a=tree;f=debian;hb=HEAD
[11:43] <mbiebl> seems they managed to have a single symbols file
[11:44] <chrisccoulson> interesting
[11:44] <chrisccoulson> i'll try and figure out how :)
[11:45] <doko> Riddell, ScottK: kdeplasma-addons and gwenview are the two real ARM build failures (double/float casts)
[11:59] <mcclurmc> hi all. does ubuntu allow multiple distributions to be specified in the debian/changelog?
[11:59] <mcclurmc> can I specify both oneiric and precise? or do I need to build two separate debs?
[12:01] <geser> mcclurmc: you need two source packages, one for each release
[12:01] <mcclurmc> okay, thanks geser
[12:27] <Riddell> mbiebl, chrisccoulson: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html is how we have one symbols file for all arches
[12:27] <Riddell> doko: ok
[12:40] <mbiebl> Riddell: where does pkgkde-getbuildlogs get the build logs from?
[12:41] <mbiebl> does that mean I need to upload -1 with broken symbols files, the run pkgkde-getbuildlogs and upload fixes symbols files in -2?
[13:11] <Riddell> mbiebl: ignore pkgkde-getbuildlogs it's debian only
[13:12] <Riddell> you can use locally compiled build logs or in buildds but only if there's only 1 library
[13:13] <Riddell> I usuae my on local build logs
[13:47] <doko> Riddell, libmygpo-qt needs a MIR (amarok)
[13:47] <doko> and, can amarok be built without OpenGL for armel/armhf?
[13:48] <doko> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/88144488/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armhf.amarok_2%3A2.5.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:07] <ScottK> lamont: Could you give ross a kick in the shins so we have some hope of powerpc catching up this year.
[14:09] <Riddell> doko: yeah I know, on my TODO
[14:09] <Riddell> (libmygpo-qt, amarok needing no GL on ARM is new to me but I can look at it too)
[14:33] <sabdfl> Daviey, ping
[14:35] <nigelb> He's supposed to be vacationing.
[14:40] <doko> Laney, we should introduce dedicated buildds for haskell :-p
[14:47]  * iulian nods.
[14:52] <doko> iulian, btw, are all the rebuilds needed, or could these a bit better organized to avoid some of the rebuilds?
[14:54] <cjwatson> doko: the current builds are mostly syncs of packages not previously in Ubuntu, not rebuilds
[14:55] <doko> cjwatson, yes, known. just fearing the follow-up of rebuilds
[14:56] <cjwatson> they aren't that bad except for the cases where they sit and hang for a day :-)
[14:56] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ghc.html is looking not particularly awful right now
[14:57] <doko> lets see this page after this round of uploads
[14:57] <zyga> hi
[14:57] <zyga> who is the best person to talk about u1db?
[14:57] <cjwatson> doko: syncs of new packages aren't going to make it worse
[14:58] <cjwatson> zyga: I'd start with aquarius
[14:58] <zyga> thanks
[14:58] <zyga> aww, away
[14:58]  * iulian will keep his eyes open.
[14:58] <cjwatson> lp/~sil
[14:58] <iulian> There will be a few rebuilds to deal with.
[15:34] <james_w> zyga, #u1db
[15:52] <mdeslaur> doko: I'll merge virt-manager (you TIL)
[15:53] <doko> mdeslaur, anything you want =)
[15:53] <mdeslaur> :)
[16:03] <zyga> james_w: thanks
[16:08] <roadmr> hey! is 32-bit Ubuntu installing the pae kernel by default now? is this a recent change or has it been like that for a while?
[16:08] <micahg> roadmr: recent
[16:09] <roadmr> micahg: thanks! I'm triaging a bug from someone installing on a VirtualBox (PAE is disabled by default) - so without that particular bit of information, his report was "ubuntu fails to boot"
[16:09] <micahg> and`: I think the extensions compatible by default landed in 10, not 9
[16:18] <and`> micahg: do we have a firefox 10 already?
[16:18] <micahg> and`: in firefox-next PPA soonish
[16:19] <and`> micahg: ah, I found this out right after installing firefox 9 on Debian sid
[16:20] <and`> micahg: and I got the confirmation that ffox asks for informations to addons.mozilla.org if the network is active
[16:20] <and`> micahg: so that you can enable the addon even if max_version is < than the installed ffox package
[16:21] <micahg> well, in 9 I thought that only works if you have the extension that overrides compatibility installed, unless glandium backported a patch
[16:23] <and`> micahg: I tested it out today, I upgraded iceweasel to version 9, all my addons got disabled, I switched them back to enabled on the addons interface and restarted iceweasel.
[16:23] <and`> micahg: result, all my addons are back and working again without touching install.rdf
[16:24] <and`> micahg: and I don't think glandium backported a patch for that according to what he told me on d-devel before.
[16:24] <and`> I couldn't find an official statement upstream so I don't know :)
[16:33] <Laney> doko: yeah sorry. feel free to score stuff down if you want.
[16:38] <micahg> could i please get an archive admin to copy thunderbird 3.1.16+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> to ubuntu/primary lucid from ubuntu-security-proposed?
[16:40] <micahg> doko: would you be able to do this? ^^
[16:41] <micahg> oops partial copied, that needs to go to lucid-security
[16:53]  * micahg wonders if it's too early for slangasek
[17:05] <micahg> Riddell: could you copy the above for me?
[17:07] <Riddell> micahg: let's see
[17:09] <Riddell> micahg: from ubuntu-security-proposed ppa lucid to ubuntu-security lucid?
[17:09] <Riddell> does it have the necessary QA and security team approval for that?
[17:10] <micahg> Riddell: thunderbird from ubuntu-security-proposed ppa lucid to ubuntu lucid-security, I am the security team and QA approval in this case :)
[17:10]  * micahg already copied maverick and natty, but lucid times out
[17:12] <Riddell> micahg: copy binaries too?
[17:12] <micahg> Riddell: please
[17:14] <Riddell> micahg:  copy-package.py -p ubuntu-security-proposed -s lucid --to-suite=lucid-security -b thunderbird ?
[17:15] <roadmr> SRU question this time: an package in -proposed had two verification failed bugs. What's the best way to handle that? remove those two fixes from the SRU and request another merge?
[17:17] <micahg> Riddell: not sure on the syntax, I just have an old guide on the Archive Admin page, but the from and to look right
[17:17] <ScottK> That or fix the fix so it works.
[17:19] <micahg> Riddell: according to that, it should be copy-package.py -b --ppa=ubuntu-security-proposed -s lucid --to-suite=lucid-security -e 3.1.16+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> thunderbird
[17:19] <roadmr> ScottK: for one of the bugs the fix is in the devel version, I just messed up while adding it to the SRU
[17:20] <roadmr> ScottK: but for the other one, the bug is still present in development, so we'd have to fix it there and then push that to the SRU again
[17:20] <ScottK> Right, so I'd drop that one and resubmit, I guess.
[17:20] <Riddell> micahg: done
[17:21] <roadmr> ScottK: ok, I'll do that then. Thanks!
[17:21] <micahg> Riddell: thank you much
[17:21] <micahg> slangasek: unping
[17:34] <slangasek> micahg: not too early, just to on-the-phoney, sorry :)
[17:36] <doko> ScottK, gwenview, see bug #907735
[17:36] <ScottK> doko: Already fixed.
[17:37] <doko> ScottK, please close it after verifying =)
[17:37] <ScottK> OK
[17:46] <doko> make[1]: Entering directory `/build/buildd/drush-4.5'
[17:46] <doko> sh: 1: wget: not found
[17:46] <doko> sh: 1: curl: not found
[17:46] <doko> people should hide things better ...
[17:46] <doko> gah, should be make[1]: Entering directory `/build/buildd/drush-4.5'
[17:46] <doko>  /build/buildd/drush-4.5/drush.php > /dev/null
[17:46] <doko> sh: 1: wget: not found
[17:46] <doko> sh: 1: curl: not found
[17:47] <cjwatson> I thought I fixed that
[17:47] <cjwatson> oh, no, there was a Debian bug about it
[17:48] <cjwatson> grr, it was working and then the Debian maintainer broke it again
[17:48] <cjwatson> missing build-dependency on php-console-table I believe
[18:09] <adam_g> is there any way to have a lp PPA build satisfy its Build Depends from within the PPA?
[18:13] <mdeslaur> adam_g: that should already be the case AFAIK, just make sure your build depends are finished building before uploading the other ones
[18:21] <adam_g> mdeslaur: ok, ill try again. thanks
[18:27] <ScottK> Nice.
[18:28] <ScottK> lamont: Ross fell over and can't get up again.  Is something up or just unlucky today?
[18:52] <doko> Riddell, ScottK: I think we need to improve the kde situation for build-deps/breaks
[18:52] <doko> e.g. kdenetwork fails with:
[18:53] <ScottK> doko: Soyuz just needs to implement the same BD unistallable condition Debian has and it'll be fine.
[18:53] <doko> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:53] <doko>  kde-sc-dev-latest : Breaks: kde-workspace-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu4.1 is to be installed
[18:53] <doko>                      Breaks: kdepimlibs5-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[18:53] <doko>                      Breaks: libkonq5-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[18:53] <doko> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:53] <doko> apt-get failed.
[18:53] <doko> and doesn't automatically retry
[18:53] <ScottK> Yep.  On Debian that would get a BD uninstallable state, not a failed build and would eventually work.
[18:54] <doko> if you know that, don't use it
[18:54] <doko> just adjust the version for the b-d's
[18:54] <doko> ScottK, is there a bug about this?
[18:54] <ScottK> So you want us to fork the KDE packages from Debian?
[18:54] <ScottK> I don't think that's going to happen.
[18:55] <doko> ScottK, no, contribute to it. these adjusted versions don't hurt debian
[18:55] <ScottK> No, the versions are correct.
[18:56] <ScottK> Once kde-workspace is built on armel, I'll retry it.  It'll be fine.
[18:56] <doko> ScottK, it's not about the retrying
[18:56] <doko> ScottK, is there a bug report open about this?
[18:56] <ScottK> Yes.
[18:57] <doko> which one?
[18:57] <ScottK> Let me see if I can find it.
[18:57] <ScottK> doko: Bug 527245
[18:58] <ScottK> AIUI, 'Low' in LP bug terms means they aren't going to do it.
[18:59] <doko> thanks for the pointer
[18:59] <micahg> it means it's not scheduled, opportunistic devs can fix I think
[18:59] <ScottK> Could be.
[19:00] <ScottK> doko: No problem.
[21:25] <adrian_berg> If you tinker with the kernel, you are then not able to upgrade to future ubuntu releases, correct?
[21:26] <adrian_berg> My boot time is pathetic, and this is a new laptop (4gb ram, dual core 2ghz processors), shouldn't be having these problems, so my only guess is that there's too much crap being loaded in the kernel
[21:31] <RAOF> adrian_berg: Have you done any measurements?  I don't think kernel load time (except, perhaps, initramfs load time) is going to be a large part of your boot time.
[21:43] <SpamapS> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/
[21:43] <SpamapS> adrian_berg: note the results there
[21:44] <SpamapS> kernel is quite tiny
[21:44] <SpamapS> plumbing is the pain point
[21:44] <SpamapS> udev, mounting, fsck'ing, etc
[21:44] <ScottK> Funny how when we forget to care about boot time it goes up.
[21:45] <SpamapS> its just like my waistline
[21:45] <SpamapS> the minute the diet is over, I gain 10lbs back. :)
[21:46] <SpamapS> I would be interested in the breakdown of what constitutes plumbing
[21:47] <ScottK> I guess you could run bootchart yourself.
[21:48] <SpamapS> no the bootcharts are linked there
[21:49] <SpamapS> looks like a lot of it is ureadahead
[21:49] <infinity> ScottK: That bug mostly misses the point (as does BD-Un in Debian) 99% of the time.  You can almost always express a BD-U state as a dep-wait, it just requires drilling down.
[21:49] <ScottK> infinity: Implementation detail.
[21:49] <infinity> ScottK: And I may well fix *that* in lp-buildd, rather than implementing another build state.
[21:49] <ScottK> That's fine.
[21:50] <ScottK> I don't care what you call it.
[21:50] <RAOF> SpamapS: Yeah, but time speant in ureadahead is (or should be) directly offset by time not spent at other points of the boot process.
[21:50] <ScottK> (and I agree, BD uninstallable is a sub catagory of depwait)
[21:51] <SpamapS> RAOF: the lucid ones hit 93MB/s w/ ureadahead
[21:51] <SpamapS> RAOF: and the more recent ones are down around 86MB/s
[21:51] <RAOF> :(
[21:51] <SpamapS> is it just as simple as the drivers being more careful and underperforming?
[21:52] <SpamapS> The numbers work out quite well % wise
[21:53]  * SpamapS decides to blame firmware
[21:57] <infinity> SpamapS: Blame Apple.  That's my default fallback for everything now.
[21:59] <psusi> SpamapS: you gotta pack the data with e2defrag ;)
[22:06] <zyga> hi, where can I find some canonical/ubuntu media packs
[22:06] <zyga> stuff like the ubuntu logo
[22:08] <jpds> zyga: http://design.canonical.com/brand/
[22:08] <zyga> jpds: thanks
[23:02] <hallyn> @pilot in
[23:37] <hallyn> jinkeys!  suddenly no aufs module?  must have happened with today's update?   huh...
[23:40] <RAOF> hallyn: That's been the case for some time; overlayfs (mostly) replaces it.
[23:42] <hallyn> i expected that one day, but figured schroot/sbuild would quietly dtrt when that happened :)
[23:50] <hallyn> here's hoping that sed -i 's/aufs/overlayfs/' * in /etc/schroot/chroot.d does the trick
[23:51] <hallyn> \o/


[10:42] <Jowi> daylighter, try setting up the framebuffer to one that suits your graphic  card better. see !framebuffer
[10:42] <scguy318> benjamin1254: pastebin the output of the error
[10:42] <daylighter> !framebuffer
[10:42] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[10:42] <Dr_willis> daylighter,  ive seen issues like that with the framebuffer device, and some X video drivers. sort of rare now a days. I'd disable the framebuffer in the grub configs  as a test.
[10:42] <benjamin1254> there is no error
[10:42] <jacob_> oh ok
[10:42] <benjamin1254> it just wont do anything at all
[10:43] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob_: You only need firestarter to open up something, else the defaults are fine.. Verify this using grc.com shields-up port scan
[10:43] <hype_> hi :)
[10:43] <daylighter> Dr_willis, thanks, it's really weird, it just recently started doing it, i used to tab over into a console and use elinks all the time
[10:43] <scguy318> benjamin1254: so what's the problem?
[10:43] <hype_> any idea why gutsy tribe6 wasnt released? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[10:43] <benjamin1254> benjamin1254@ashley-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get check
[10:43] <benjamin1254> benjamin1254@ashley-desktop:~$
[10:43] <benjamin1254> i get nothing
[10:43] <benjamin1254> see
[10:43] <davy> (if i'm right it is alsad )
[10:43] <Dr_willis> daylighter,  ive seen it a lot with different versions of the nvidia/ati/whatever drivers. sadly.
[10:43] <kitche> hype_, ask #ubuntu+1 but probably ebcause it's not ready
[10:43] <Dr_willis> daylighter,  older one worked.. new one dont.. next one does.. ect. :)
[10:43] <jacob_> Jack_Sparrow, very helpfull
[10:43] <n-iCe> scguy318 what do you think?
[10:44] <hype_> kitche , thanks
[10:44] <jacob_> scguy318 the same for you
[10:44] <scguy318> n-iCe: can you tell me what model your wireless device is? and do you have your Windows drivers?
[10:44] <Dr_willis> bbl ya all
[10:44] <kitche> hype_, or they are getting ready for beta
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob_: It isnt like windows where you need to pick a firewall and manage everything
[10:44] <scguy318> jacob_: ty, though I'm having trouble sifting through the sea of talk :)
[10:44] <tatters> tribe 6 is spoosed to be released on the 10th apperntly
[10:44] <scguy318> tatters: they're not releasing tribe 6, its a bug milestone I think
[10:44] <n-iCe> scguy318 I'm connected to my wireless drivers are ok, everything is ok , but it doesn't connect automatically i need to send again: sudo iwconfig eth0 essid NAME and the key, got it?
[10:44] <MatBoy> is there a default password set for root on a Ubuntu installation ?
[10:44] <n-iCe> How do i enable autoconfig, or something similar
[10:44] <MatBoy> it never asked for a root-password
[10:45] <scguy318> n-iCe: ohhhh, then just use nm-applet
[10:45] <Usrl> MatBoy: should be the same as your deefault usre account
[10:45] <parent> ok now I can't get in through recovery mode either, I get this: "Kernel panic - not syncing : Fatal exception in interupt". I get this on both 16 and 15
[10:45] <scguy318> n-iCe: or edit /etc/interfaces I think
[10:45] <tatters> well i thought it was a beta concentrating on bug fixes
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !root | MatBoy
[10:45] <ubotu> MatBoy: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:45] <n-iCe> scguy318 look
[10:45] <kitche> tatters, tribe6 is alpha beta will be out on the 27th
[10:45] <davy> thx guy bye
[10:45] <MatBoy> Jack_Sparrow, ok, so I will use SUDO from now on as user
[10:45] <scguy318> n-iCe: wut
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> MatBoy: Not a good idea
[10:46] <n-iCe> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36946/ it must be ok , i don't find somethign wrong
[10:46] <cyberjames> hi Zevs789
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> MatBoy: You only use it as needed...
[10:46] <n-iCe> are my /etc/network/intercfaces
[10:46] <MatBoy> Jack_Sparrow, how than ?
[10:46] <Skyfalcon866> will gusty gibbon have KDE4
[10:46] <tatters> hmm was told the tenth in ubuntu+1 and sure I read in the ubuntu site it was spossed to be acctually relaeased on the 5th, still had a lot updates last few days
[10:46] <Jack_Sparrow> MatBoy: also use gksudo to run gui apps as root
[10:46] <parent> How do I fix "Kernel panic - not syncing : Fatal exception in interupt" Error?
[10:47] <PriceChild> !gutsy
[10:47] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[10:47] <kitche> Skyfalcon866, maybe sicne tribe's have kde4
[10:47] <scguy318> n-iCe: what device is your wireless device? eth0?
[10:47] <Usrl> MatBoy: using sudo for day to day things is like using a drill when a screwdriver would suffice. It might be a little bit easier to not have to switch tools, but you've got a much higher chance of hurting yourself with the drill
[10:47] <clever> parent: what kernel version(uname -r)
[10:47] <n-iCe> scguy318 yeah
[10:47] <jacob_> Jack_Sparrow, i don't know how to use this site, how i'm i suppose to scan my ports?
[10:47] <Timbooooo> is it possable to view all wireless networks in the area?
[10:47] <uncle_grombor> What is compu fuzion?  Might be spelling it wrong.  I've been told that it comes packaged with GG.
[10:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob_: click on shields up and follow the prompts
[10:47] <n-iCe> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36947/ loook my iwconfig
[10:47] <kitche> !compiz-fusion | uncle_grombor
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <jacob_> Jack_Sparrow, can you try to walk me through it?
[10:47] <MatBoy> Usrl, ok, but I have to read about it than I guess.. if I need to install stuff, I normally did this as root
[10:47] <tatters> Timbooo: yes
[10:47] <nickrud> Timbooo: if you're not using ndiswrapper, kismet is nice
[10:48] <kitche> uncle_grombor, the new version of compiz and beryl merge
[10:48] <Usrl> MatBoy: some installs need root, some don't. Only use root when you have to
[10:48] <MatBoy> Usrl, ok, sounds normal indeed
[10:48] <Timbooooo> nickrud i dont know what those are... im trying to connect a laptop i just installed ubuntu on, to the internet
[10:48] <sexcopter> hi, is there a way to make torrent files open in utorrent (under wine) by default on double-clicking>
[10:48] <sexcopter> ?
[10:48] <MatBoy> Usrl, that was what I expected with Debian too... seems to be different there ;)
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> jacob_: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[10:49] <uncle_grombor> Nod, I've just read good and bad things about it on the forums.  Oh, I did the ln's and it said no such directory.
[10:49] <Skyfalcon866> does kubuntu get more attention than ubuntu or vice versa
[10:49] <nickrud> Timbooo: right click the network applet on the top bar, make sure wireless is enabled, and left clicking the same icon should show you the nets in the area
[10:49] <n-iCe> scguy318 Do you see something wrong?
[10:49] <sasa> dr_willis: ok, I am booted off of live cd. I have two unallocated partitions and two used partitions (one windows and one linux). I want to add those two unallocated partitions to windows and linux, respectively. I have gparted open. I do not see an option to unmount. If I select the windows of linux partitions, it does not let me increase their sizes. Can you please walk me through how I could increase windows and linux partitions?
[10:49] <Timbooooo> nickrud ok thanks
[10:49] <sasa> dr_willis: please note that unallocated space is at the end of the hard drive, if that could be an issue.
[10:50] <scguy318> n-iCe: not rly, i'm not wholly familiar with your problem, continue inquiring in here
[10:50] <davide> hi, iv'e got a second hdd installed in my ubuntu server (edgy), mounted to userfolder/storage - how can i unmount the hdd,  so i can safely remove it from the server?
[10:50] <scguy318> n-iCe: it looks just fine to me
[10:50] <Timbooooo> nickrud im not seeing any
[10:50] <tatters> I use to mess about cracking my wep with aircrack not used it for a few years tried it out again the other day and with airoscript its pratically automated
[10:50] <thomas1> Hello, Can anyone tell me is there a program to remotely control a windows desktop using the build in windows remote access software, or is something like VNC best to use?
[10:50] <nickrud> !wireless | Timbooo you might not have your wireless set up yet, this should get you set up
[10:50] <ubotu> Timbooo you might not have your wireless set up yet, this should get you set up: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:51] <Jack_Sparrow> tatters: Is that a script for linux or windows?
[10:51] <Timbooooo> nickrud thanks
[10:51] <tatters> think it works on both but used it on linux only becuase of packet injection
[10:51] <_MattB_> if i have a large collection of mp3s, is there a native program that will  download album art for me?
[10:51] <wolfwalker> !upgrade
[10:51] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:51] <astro76> thomas1, applications > internet > terminal server client, is an rdp client
[10:51] <nickrud> Timbooo: if you have problems with that page, ask for assistance as specifically as you can, you'll get better results here
[10:51] <usser> _MattB_: Amarok
[10:52] <_MattB_> thx, i look into that
[10:52] <usser> _MattB_: it has a build in cover downloader
[10:52] <bobbyyu> My network printer (Lexmark Z600) doesn't print anything; it shows "job-hold-until-specified"
[10:52] <usser> _MattB_: its the best although somewhat heavi audio player for linux
[10:52] <wolfwalker> Danka mein friend
[10:52] <wolfwalker> !botsnack
[10:52] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:52] <nickrud> _MattB_: rhythmbox does the same as well
[10:52] <thomas1> astro76, thanks will give it a try.
[10:53] <sasa> anhone: i have gparted open, right now, off of live cd. I have two partitions, one windows and one ubuntu. I also have a few gigabytes of unallocated space.  I had to remove a router from my network because the person that owns it is leaving, and I forgot what settings I had on my Edgy box to connect to PPPoE through the switch to the modem. Can someone at least hand me a link on where to look to fix this back to where it was?
[10:53] <_MattB_> will either of them allow me to run a command to download it, or does it just download when playing?
[10:53] <bobbyyu> Where can I go for Linux Printer help?
[10:53] <nickrud> Night_Owl: if you have the username and password, ppoeconf should set you up
[10:54] <uncle_grombor> bobbyu, what is the printer?
[10:54] <nickrud> Night_Owl: er pppoeconf
[10:54] <wolferine> where does sendmail errors log at?
[10:54] <bobbyyu> Lexmark Z600
[10:54] <wolferine> /var/log/messages ?
[10:54] <uncle_grombor> :-)
[10:54] <Jowi> Night_Owl, the old pppoe settings are in /etc/ppp/
[10:54] <uncle_grombor> give me a sec, I just installed that a week ago.
[10:54] <uncle_grombor> I'll find the site.
[10:54] <tatters> anyone know of a live cd that has partimage compiled WITH the login option, I tried system rescue cd and gparted live cd both have the NO  login option set when compiled
[10:55] <sasa> I have gparted open, right now, off of live cd. I have two partitions, one windows and one ubuntu. I also have a few gigabytes of unallocated space. Can someone please tell me steps of consuming the unallocated space to expand my windows and ubuntu partitions?
[10:55] <uncle_grombor> bobbyyu, go here http://finebushpeople.net/LexmarkZ600
[10:55] <Edward_Bear> gah
[10:55] <tatters> ubuntu partimaged is compiled with the login option so not compatable with rescue cd or gparted live cd
[10:56] <n-iCe> what is nm-applet ?
[10:56] <Edward_Bear> I hate 'software caused connection abort' messages :P
[10:56] <nickrud> network-manager applet, the one on the top panel
[10:56] <Edward_Bear> Did anyone post a response to Night_Owl?
[10:56] <n-iCe> scguy318 ? what is nm-applet ?
[10:57] <ubuntuoso> hello ppl. Does anyone know how to mount a livecd initrd?  Gunzip initrd and usual (googled) mount options simply don't work :\
[10:57] <Dylan_Winik> Hello all
[10:57] <Dylan_Winik> could someone possible help me out?
[10:57] <n-iCe> Dylan_Winik maybe asking :)
[10:58] <tatters> is there any plans in pipeline for ubuntu to have a system  imaging/snapshot /restore type feature
[10:58] <Jowi> Edward_Bear / Night_Owl , the old pppoe settings are in /etc/ppp/ (chap-secrets or pap-secrets) if that's what you're looking for...
[10:58] <uncle_grombor> Did some looking, I don't know if this will help the other person with the hard drive problem, but I'm going to try it for mine.  For the person who had the usb HD problem, go here.  http://www.mepis.org/node/10817?page=1
[10:58] <nickrud> n-iCe: look two lines before your last question ;)
[10:58] <Dylan_Winik> first time using linux, i have downloaded a torrent with .rar files which im trying to extract so i can watch it. I have installed rar and unrar but it doesnt seem to be working
[10:58] <Edward_Bear> Jowi: That might help.. let me see if I can find them..
[10:58] <bascule> rar x some.rar
[10:58] <scguy318> n-iCe: nm-applet is a GUI app that lets you automatically manage connections
[10:58] <parent> wich nvidia driver should I have for 7900GS?
[10:58] <nickrud> Dylan_Winik: you need to install rar-nonfree
[10:58] <scguy318> n-iCe: i think you said you were on a Terminal
[10:59] <n-iCe> nickrud ok can i installed if i'm on console ? is it graphical ?
[10:59] <scguy318> n-iCe: so hmmmm
[10:59] <parent> legacy, glx, or glx-new?
[10:59] <sasa> can anyone please tell me how can I expand ntfs partition by adding non-allocated space to it? Gparted doesn't let me expand the nfts partition.
[10:59] <Pelo> Dylan_Winik,  just right click the icon and select extract here
[10:59] <uncle_grombor> How do I install Lilo over grub?
[10:59] <nickrud> Edward_Bear: if you can't, try pppoeconf
[10:59] <n-iCe> yup i am scguy318, doesn't work with me right?
[10:59] <nickrud> n-iCe: yes, graphical
[10:59] <cjns3274> does ubuntu provide the GNU manuals?  Can't find them anywhere in debian
[10:59] <n-iCe> ok
[10:59] <Pelo> !lilo | uncle_grombor
[10:59] <ubotu> uncle_grombor: lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[10:59] <Jowi> Dylan_Winik, is it multiple rar archive?
[10:59] <Dylan_Winik> Jowi, ye
[10:59] <n-iCe> nickrud How do I install a lighter and nice desktop?
[10:59] <nickrud> cjns3274: good question
[10:59] <Dylan_Winik> Pelo, gives me an erro
[10:59] <scguy318> n-iCe: xubuntu-desktop?
[10:59] <Jowi> Dylan_Winik, you need "unrar" not the free version
[11:00] <uncle_grombor> I know, but I am having problems finding my DVD drive and I think this may fix it.
[11:00] <scguy318> cjns3274: man pages?
[11:00] <nickrud> n-iCe: try fluxbox , it's light and can be as pretty as you like
[11:00] <Dylan_Winik> Jowi, i did a apt-get install unrar
[11:00] <Pelo> Dylan_Winik,  if it is a fragmented archive fine the r00 file and extract that one
[11:00] <Edward_Bear> ah I remember using that.. that'll be much easier.. thanks Jowi
[11:00] <n-iCe> nickrud sudo apt-get isntall fluxbox ?
[11:00] <Jowi> !info unrar
[11:00] <cjns3274> nickrud: thanks :-)
[11:00] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[11:00] <Jowi> Dylan_Winik, so "unrar x file.rar" should do it.
[11:00] <HyperCity> for anyone that is itrested the config files of screenlets are on /home/~/.config/Screenlets/
[11:01] <Dylan_Winik> Jowi, it says the following:
[11:01] <Dylan_Winik> Extracting from mvs-hpoted-cd2.r10
[11:01] <Dylan_Winik> Cannot find volume mvs-hpoted-cd2.r11
[11:01] <Dylan_Winik> No files to extract
[11:01] <Dylan_Winik> and no .avi
[11:01] <nickrud> n-iCe: yes,
[11:01] <Pelo> Dylan_Winik,  it is possible that the archive is corrupted, specialy if you get errors after a while and not right from the start
[11:02] <nandemonai> Dylan_Winik, Sounds like your missing parts of a spanned archive.
[11:02] <n-iCe> nickrud ok, it will load a graphical desktop everytime that i reboot?
[11:02] <Jowi> Dylan_Winik, so mvs-hpoted-cd2.r11 is missing. as Pelo said.
[11:02] <Dylan_Winik> ok let me try something
[11:02] <Dylan_Winik> thanks alot guys
[11:02] <nickrud> cjns3274: it's the gnu documentation license thing,
[11:03] <nickrud> n-iCe: you should also install xdm or gdm if you want it to load the desktop on boot
[11:03] <tatters> how do
[11:03] <nickrud> n-iCe: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ has a lot of information about it
[11:03] <n-iCe> nickrud sudo apt-get install fluxbox; sudo apt-get install gdm , would be ok ?
[11:04] <sasa> hello. Can anyone tell me how can I expand ntfs partitions using gparted off of live cd?
[11:04] <Yuzzy> sasa: yes you can
[11:04] <nickrud> n-iCe: yes, in fact you can do them both at the same time: apt-get install fluxbox gdm fluxconf fbdesk    would be a good line to use
[11:05] <[Thom] > How do I get rid of this? grep: /usr/local/lib/python2.5/python2.5: Too many levels of symbolic links
[11:05] <Pelo> sasa,  just unmout it ,  then select the  resize /move from the right click menu ,  but you can only resize to the "right"   if the free space is on the left you need to move it first
[11:05] <tatters> anyone take snapshot or image of their systems,having trouble with live cds and ubuntus partimaged which is not compatible with 2 I tried so far IE system rescue cd and gparted
[11:05] <Usrl> [Thom] : You never happened to play FFXI, did you?
[11:05] <Yuzzy> I installed Xubuntu on a slave drive and it runs slower than my XP (on my master drive). Does the fact that it's running from a slave could be my problem?
[11:06] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/python2.5/python2.5
[11:06] <[Thom] > Usrl: No, sorry
[11:06] <sasa> Pelo: that is exactly my predicament: there is no space to drag to the right. I do have over 7 gigs of unallocated space. How can I move it so I can expand my nfgs partition?
[11:06] <tatters> is your slave on same channel as other drive or cd/dvd?
[11:06] <Usrl> [Thom] : alright, no problem. Just used to know someone by your name.
[11:06] <Yuzzy> tatter... on the same channel?
[11:06] <Pelo> sasa, take a screenshot of the gparted windows and uplaod it to imageshack so I can have a look
[11:06] <tatters> same ide cable etc
[11:07] <[Thom] > Usrl: What is FFXI ?
[11:07] <Usrl> [Thom] : MMORPG.
[11:07] <sasa> ok
[11:07] <[Thom] > Final Fantasy?
[11:07] <tatters> how is it physically attached
[11:07] <Yuzzy> tatter... yes
[11:07] <Usrl> [Thom] : Final Fantasy XI, yes.
[11:07] <shock> hi .... has any one here tried installing Ubuntu on an raid 0 configured alienware ??
[11:07] <Pelo> !raid | shock
[11:07] <ubotu> shock: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:07] <Yuzzy> tatter: Should I change it?
[11:07] <Pelo> shock,  I thnk that's what you need
[11:08] <parent> Ubuntu freezes at nvidia logo screen ( login screen won't come up ), how can I fix this?
[11:08] <tatters> ifit on same as cd/dvd I would make it first device
[11:08] <shock> I went through the link ... but am facing few problems
[11:08] <Skyfalcon866> who uses KDE
[11:08] <shock> do i have to format it completely .... or can i install in a second partition  ?
[11:08] <Usrl> parent: sounds like a video driver problem to me
[11:09] <Yuzzy> tatter... thanks... will check that immediatly....
[11:09] <Usrl> parent: have you tried checking your drivers?
[11:09] <Edward_Bear> Jowi: how do I figure out which file it might be between chap and pap? I can't apparently open them to tell the difference :/
[11:09] <[Thom] > What is the /usr/local/lib directory used for?
[11:09] <Yuzzy> How can I disable the screensaver in xubuntu?
[11:09] <shock> I have an XP/Vista on the laptop currently, Is there a possibility to install Ubuntu on another partition without formatting
[11:09] <Pelo> shock,  you can install on a second partiton,  if you select  manual partitioning when yo get to that step you can probably ( I've never done it in raid) specify new partitions for /home /swap /home
[11:09] <Jowi> Edward_Bear, "sudo cat /etc/ppp/chap-secrets" they should be identical.
[11:09] <Usrl> Yuzzy: screensaver stuff should be under your system preferences stuff
[11:09] <Pelo> Yuzzy,  set it to never ?
[11:10] <Yuzzy> pelo: But where?
[11:10] <slimjimmy> yuzzy: if you can go to where you configure the screensaver, there should be an option to enable/disable it
[11:10] <Pelo> shock, except for the raid part (which I donT' know about) you can rezise the nfts partition to make a new partition to install ubuntu on
[11:10] <jamster545> Jowi: are you still on?
[11:10] <Pelo> Yuzzy,  see Usrl 's comment
[11:10] <Jowi> jamster545, yeah. but getting tired. what's up?
[11:10] <urilockz> Posting here, wine-hq is dead.      I'm trying to get Fallout 2 working in wine, install worked fine but im getting trouble with 'Please insert the CD' I have tried adding scripts to nautilus and ACEtonel.
[11:10] <sasa> Pelo: http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotwf9.png] [IMG] http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/650/screenshotwf9.th.png
[11:11] <Yuzzy> Slimjimmy: I didn't set the screensaver. I don'T know where to launch the settings
[11:11] <Usrl> urilockz: the wine channel is #winehq -- not wine-hq
[11:11] <parent> usrl, i've tried a whole lot of stufff :o
[11:11] <shock> yeah I think its the RAID thats giving the trouble ..when trying to install it doesn't even recognize the harddrive
[11:11] <jamster545> Jowi: i got the graphical OS running but realized i didnt like the gnome environment. i downloaded KDE ut need to know how to run that instead
[11:11] <sasa> sorry
[11:11] <urilockz> oh...
[11:12] <nandemonai> Yuzzy, System -> Preferences -> Screensaver like the other guys said.
[11:12] <urilockz> thanks
[11:12] <shock> i mean the partitions ....it shows as a single partition .though there are 3 existing
[11:12] <sasa> Pelo: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/650/screenshotwf9.png
[11:12] <Jowi> jamster545, easiest way to install kde is to install the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[11:12] <Pelo> sasa,  hold on
[11:12] <MatBoy> guys, brb !! but.. ubuntu rocks !!
[11:12] <MatBoy> really :)
[11:12] <sasa> thank you, Pelo
[11:12] <Pelo> sasa,  thank you
[11:12] <PKdoR> ok I have 2 simple questions if any body can help I would A preciate it
[11:12] <PKdoR> 1]  Isthere a shhort cut "key stroke " to quickly switch usert with out logging of like the windows xp key stroke of "windows/Super key+L"?
[11:12] <jamster545> Jowi i have already installed the KDE environment but just need to execute it
[11:13] <Edward_Bear> Jowi: Barring the commented lines, there's a group of five lines with a commented heading that starts 'Users that cannot use PPP at all.'.. all say guest/master/etc  hostname     "*"   -
[11:13] <jamster545> is there a specific window manager i need?
[11:13] <phil212> hello
[11:13] <Edward_Bear> The username and password on both are correct though.
[11:13] <Jowi> jamster545, log out. select kde as session. log in. easy as that
[11:13] <Pelo> sasa,  which partition do you want to extend ?
[11:13] <usser> jamster545: yep log out
[11:13] <Edward_Bear> sorry, the extra lines are in pap.
[11:13] <jamster545> how do i select KDE as a session?
[11:13] <phil212> can anyone tell me how i can recive packets using this chat?
[11:13] <sasa> I want to equally split the unallocated space between the ntfs and ubuntu partitions
[11:14] <SeanTater> Can one multithreaded program using 2 totally independant threads occupy 2 cores simultaneously
[11:14] <Nutubuntu> jamster545, when you login, click "Sessions" before you key in your username and password
[11:14] <sasa> pelo: *please look up
[11:14] <bobbyyu> uncle_grombar: How do you add the printer?
[11:14] <Jowi> Edward_Bear, paste bin the files so I can have a look. can't promise it will tell me anything though.
[11:14] <jamster545> ok. i will try and if i need more help i wil log back on. sorry  when i it comes to ubuntu i am kinda newbish on most things
[11:14] <bobbyyu> Where do you find the driver files?
[11:15] <Jowi> Edward_Bear, or send it to me by private message if you don't want to post them.
[11:15] <uncle_grombor> bobbyyu:  Did you go to the site?  There should be a link to lexmark at the site I gave you.
[11:15] <PKdoR> is there a quick user switch "short-cut key" for ubuntu like "window key+L" on xp ?
[11:15] <bobbyyu> I did
[11:15] <uncle_grombor> You download the rpm and convert with alien
[11:15] <Pelo> sasa,  I'm not sure you can expand a  ntfs aprtition with gparted ( because gparted does not support formating ntfs' I know you don't want to format it but I think part of the expanding process might involve formating the new part) ,
[11:15] <phil212> can anyone tell me how to recive files on this chat please?
[11:15] <chrismurf> My USB keyboard works in BIOS and grub, but once Feisty boots I need to unplug and replug it before it works.  Any tips?
[11:15] <Edward_Bear> um.. not sure how I'd do that.. I'm using my XP box to chat since I can't seem to get an internet connection on Ubuntu atm :P
[11:15] <bobbyyu> I know, but when you add the printer, you need to select the driver
[11:15] <Phydoux> phil212, DCC
[11:16] <phil212> how do you use it?
[11:16] <Jowi> chrismurf, sounds like a kernel bug. try a different kernel and/or bug report it.
[11:16] <Jowi> !bug | chrismurf
[11:16] <ubotu> chrismurf: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:16] <uncle_grombor> give me a sec, have to check.  I got a different printer since then and I don't remember.  It should be in the list of drivers though.
[11:16] <routerguy> can anyone tell me how to get the ddclient from dyndns.com installed
[11:16] <Ninio> how can I log in as root in the terminal in ubuntu?
[11:17] <Nutubuntu> !root | Ninio
[11:17] <ubotu> Ninio: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:17] <Jowi> Ninio, "sudo -i"
[11:17] <chrismurf> Jowi, the Kernel complained about not getting some sort of ID on boot, but it's not in messages or dmesg
[11:17] <uncle_grombor> type sudo as the username and the password is root!
[11:17] <Ninio> 10x
[11:17] <Ninio> let me try
[11:17] <Pelo> sasa,  in any case ,  this would be the sequence of step you would have to do , 1st , resize the ext3 partition to add an extra 3.6 gig on it , 2nd,  move the ext3 partiton to the end of the hdd ( in the dialog lave the same totatl space and select 0 space after , or whatever it is ) ,  what is left of the free space will be between the ntfs and ext3 partiton,  then you resize the ntfs partition
[11:17] <Yamfox> I was wondering if ubuntu had complete tablet pc support
[11:17] <phil212> isnt there some type of code you can enter to recive a file like on MIRC?
[11:17] <Pelo> sasa,  just one quesiton ? what happened to your /swap ?
[11:17] <Ninio> 10x
[11:17] <bobbyyu> I dkpg the files, then what do I do?
[11:18] <Jowi> chrismurf, usb keyboards should "just work (tm)"
[11:18] <chrismurf> Jowi, I agree ;-)
[11:18] <Pelo> phil212,  when someone sends you a file you should get a dialog asking if you want to accept it and where you want to store it
[11:18] <chrismurf> Jowi, alright - will look into it
[11:18] <uncle_grombor> bobby, use Cups printer gui in system to add the printer.
[11:18] <phil212> ok :)
[11:18] <Jowi> chrismurf, try a different kernel version. you never know :)
[11:19] <bobbyyu> I know, but where can I find the device driver file?
[11:19] <phil212> is it as fast as software like limewire?
[11:19] <uncle_grombor> In the directory you downloaded it and extracted it.
[11:19] <slimjimmy> bobbyyu: what brand is the printer?
[11:19] <uncle_grombor> z600 lexmark
[11:19] <bobbyyu> Lexmark Z600
[11:19] <bobbyyu> So it's the .deb files right?
[11:19] <uncle_grombor> yes.
[11:19] <uncle_grombor> execute them.
[11:20] <bobbyyu> Sorry, how do I do that?
[11:20] <Timbooooo> how do i login as root in the terminal
[11:20] <uncle_grombor> try double clicking them
[11:20] <bobbyyu> OK
[11:20] <meoblast001> hi
[11:20] <PriceChild> !sudo | Timbooooo
[11:20] <ubotu> Timbooooo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:20] <scguy318> !root | Timboooooo
[11:20] <ubotu> Timboooooo: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:20] <slimjimmy> timbooo: you can do sudo su if you want to be root
[11:20] <uncle_grombor> if that dosen't work then use the terminal, go to them, type sudu ***.deb
[11:20] <Yamfox> I was wondering if ubuntu had complete tablet PC support
[11:20] <Jowi> Edward_Bear, sorry, didn't see your message. normally, either pap- or chap-secrets are used. not both of them. can't help much i'm afraid. and getting sleepy :)
[11:20] <scguy318> slimjimmy: or sudo -s
[11:21] <meoblast001> any explanation for why the booting of my Flash Drive Ubuntu is nothing but a blinking terminal cursor?
[11:21] <scguy318> Yamfox: not sure, you could test it out ;)
[11:21] <jamster545> okay Jowi i got it figured out
[11:21] <yurimxpxman> I just installed mldonkey, and there aren't any servers listed to connect to.. what should I add?
[11:21] <jamster545> thanks to everyone who helped
[11:22] <Edward_Bear> ok, will have to figure it out later.. thanks anyways, I gotta get a few hours' in right now too, and typing up the files manually :P
[11:22] <Timbooooo> im trying to install ndiswrapper and i get an error for make install
[11:22] <Xero> !wireless
[11:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:22] <Yamfox> scguy318:
[11:22] <Jowi> Edward_Bear, write up all the info that are in the files on a paper. then run pppoeconf to try to reconfigure the connection again. now it's bedtime
[11:22] <Yamfox> I will
[11:22] <Pelo> meoblast001, while you can install on a flsh drive I'm not sure it makes ubuntu portable , meaning you would hve to use it on the same computer all the time ( drivers and stuff) , do you think that might be the issue ?
[11:22] <jamster545> Jowi: thanks
[11:22] <Jowi> no probs jamster545
[11:22] <Xero> Timbooo, that was for me, not you. I'm having wireless problems and decided to contact the bnt first.
[11:22] <jamster545> i got KDE running
[11:22] <Xero> *bot
[11:22] <jamster545> bye
[11:22] <Xero> I dont know HOW I hit n
[11:24] <Pelo> ping ?
[11:24] <bobbyyu> uncle_grombar: Do I gunzip the device driver file as a last step?
[11:24] <osmosis> is universe enabled by default now ?
[11:25] <uncle_grombor> It should be unziped before you get the .sh file
[11:25] <scguy318> osmosis: in Feisty yes
[11:26] <uncle_grombor> Does anyone know where I may be able to go for device issues?  I've looked just about everywhere.
[11:26] <Timbooooo> i dont see how to get help on the wifi help page, i dont even know what is wrong and there are 100s of pages linked there..
[11:26] <osmosis> scguy318: okay, i just didnt remember hearing any announcements about that.
[11:27] <NarutoUz> hey folks, I'm in the process of reinstalling ubuntu to fix major errors. Because of important files I don't want to format the partion that my 'home' folders were stored on.
[11:27] <NarutoUz> can anyone think of a way of figuring out which one that is from the live CD?
[11:27] <uncle_grombor> /exit
[11:27] <NarutoUz> sizes are making guessing a little hrad.
[11:27] <jrib> NarutoUz: mount them and look inside?
[11:27] <Pelo> NarutoUz, did you make a seperate partition for your /home ?
[11:28] <NarutoUz> yep I did indeed (provided my memory is correct!)
[11:28] <pheze> Hi.. I would like to know how to make my console (ctrl+alt+f1) if Xserver is disabled.. looks good? it's like HUGE ugly fonts.. may I have a normal size?
[11:28] <Pelo> NarutoUz, like jrib says then,  just mount them and check them out
[11:29] <Timbooooo> im having internet problems with inspiron 1150, cant see wireless networks on new install of ubuntu
[11:29] <scguy318> Timboooooo: your wireless card detected properly?
[11:29] <Pelo> !wifi | Timbooooo
[11:29] <ubotu> Timbooooo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:29] <Timbooooo> scguy318 i dont know
[11:30] <Pelo> Timbooooo, also check out your model in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport see if there are knonw issues
[11:30] <jrib> pheze: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[11:30] <Jengerer> Can someone help me? I'm having trouble getting sound working on my Toshiba P105 laptop!
[11:31] <Pelo> Jengerer, all sound or are you getting some ?
[11:31] <[InFeRnAl] > hi
[11:31] <Jengerer> None at all.
[11:31] <Timbooooo> Pelo i found my laptop listed there but what does that tell me?
[11:31] <Gremzilla> Hello everyone, anyone know if i can install ubuntu on a secondry HDD then move it into a new PC (with no disk drives) and boot up like that?
[11:31] <[InFeRnAl] > anyone can help ...
[11:31] <Pelo> !sound | Jengerer start with this
[11:31] <ubotu> Jengerer start with this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:31] <judy> HELP Urgent can't get noerror option to work in dd (dd noerror if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hda
[11:31] <judy> won't work
[11:31] <amelie> i just draw something guys: http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=macpclinuxrn8.gif
[11:31] <amelie> tell me what u think
[11:31] <[InFeRnAl] > i have a problem whit my shutdown the hangs
[11:31] <judy> PLEASE HELP ME TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE
[11:32] <jrib> !caps | judy
[11:32] <ubotu> judy: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:32] <Bothered> Gremzilla: No, that's not a good idea
[11:32] <[InFeRnAl] > :( when i poweroff
[11:32] <jrib> !offtopic | amelie
[11:32] <ubotu> amelie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:32] <usser> Gremzilla: it'll most likely boot up, however be prepared to get your hands dirty
[11:32] <judy> I have to clone an NTFS drive with damaged sectors
[11:32] <scguy318> judy: shouldn't it be dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hda conv=noerror?
[11:32] <scguy318> could be wrong tho
[11:32] <judy> YAY
[11:32] <judy> thanks
[11:32] <judy> will try right now
[11:32] <Jengerer> Pelo, I tried that and it didn't work. I already tried installing ALSA, and that didn't help either.
[11:32] <Pelo> Timbooooo, check the comment ,see if they have anyting to say about your wifi connection , if you need to use any special proceedure etc,  if not, you can probably proceed wit the usualy way detailed in the wifi documentation
[11:32] <Gremzilla> thanks guys
[11:33] <scguy318> judy: im thinking conv=noerror,sync
[11:33] <scguy318> judy: thats what I've always been told
[11:33] <linuxbeast> !paste
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:33] <Pelo> Jengerer, are you sure you're  speakers are connected in the correct outlet and that they are powered on ?
[11:33] <Jengerer> I'm using a laptop, and the speakers are built in.
[11:33] <[InFeRnAl] > anyone can help? when i sudo poweroff my pc hangs and i need to push the power button
[11:33] <Pelo> Jengerer, no little mute button ?
[11:33] <Jengerer> They work fine on Windows XP.
[11:33] <Jengerer> No.
[11:33] <linuxbeast> i need some help please. this package will not remove. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36954/
[11:33] <Jengerer> :/
[11:34] <Pelo> Jengerer, ok  open a terminal ,  type alsamixer , make sure all the sliders are up and that none are muted
[11:34] <Pelo> linuxbeast, are you getting an error msg ?
[11:34] <Jengerer> I see three sections: Master, PCM and IEC958, the first two are full, but the last one has no bar at all.
[11:35] <[InFeRnAl] > anyone can help? when i sudo poweroff my pc hangs and i need to push the power button
[11:35] <Pelo> Jengerer, ok  ,  go in menu > system > admin > users , make sure you have permission to use sound
[11:35] <k1ngm0b> hello
[11:35] <Jengerer> Yes, there's a check beside Use Audio Devices
[11:36] <linuxbeast> Pelo, yes, look at the paste website please
[11:36] <Pelo> linuxbeast, I'm a bit busy atm , I don'T have time to check random links,  just tell me the error bit in the error msg
[11:37] <[InFeRnAl] > anyone can help? when i sudo poweroff my pc hangs and i need to push the power button to shutdown
[11:37] <baghyay> i wanna install gnewsense-artwok.deb in my ubuntu
[11:37] <Pelo> Jengerer, that's all I have for you , hardware isnT' realy thing, type   lspci in the terminal, make sure your audiocard is "recognised"
[11:37] <linuxbeast> Pelo, im trying to purge this package called nuauth. when i do that, i get the message Stopping nuauth: invoke-rc.d: initscript nuauth, action "stop" failed.
[11:37] <Pelo> [InFeRnAl] , try sudo shutdown
[11:37] <[InFeRnAl] > yeap
[11:37] <[InFeRnAl] > tha same
[11:38] <[InFeRnAl] > :(
[11:38] <judy> YAY Thanks
[11:38] <jamster545> okay i need help setting up an SSH server on Ubuntu Server Feisty running KDE
[11:38] <ipx> jamster545: sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:38] <scguy318> [InFeRnAl] : sudo shutdown -r now?
[11:38] <ipx> done :)
[11:38] <Pelo> linuxbeast, sudo /etc/init.d/nuauth stop , then try to rumove it again
[11:38] <[InFeRnAl] > ok
[11:38] <scguy318> * no
[11:38] <Yuzzy> I deleted my grub. How can I re-install the grub fropm the LiveCD?
[11:38] <jamster545> ok iput that
[11:38] <scguy318> InFeRnAl: shutdown -h now
[11:38] <linuxbeast> Pelo, i did that. its on the paste website.
[11:39] <Jengerer> Yeah, it's here. Intel Corporating 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02).
[11:39] <scguy318> Yuzzy: LiveCD theres a few steps, i use Super GRUB CD
[11:39] <Pelo> linuxbeast, try doing it from synaptic
[11:39] <chuy_max> how can I scan my disk for damaged clusters? (like scandisk in DOS)
[11:39] <[InFeRnAl] > sudo shutdown -r
[11:39] <[InFeRnAl] > shutdown: time expected
[11:39] <[InFeRnAl] > Try `shutdown --help' for more information.
[11:39] <linuxbeast> Pelo, same error
[11:39] <baghyay> how can i install the gnewsense-artwork in my ubuntu
[11:39] <baghyay> ??
[11:39] <Pelo> chuy_max,  fsck
[11:39] <Jengerer> I guess that this is goodbye to Ubuntu. :( No sound, no fun.
[11:39] <jamster545> okay now what do i do after i downloaded the ssh package?
[11:39] <Yuzzy> scguy: I got this... How can I use it to re-install the grub?
[11:39] <scguy318> chuy_max: fsck?
[11:39] <Pelo> linuxbeast, that's all I have
[11:39] <parent> Screen freezes at nvidia logo screen! How can I fix?
[11:40] <Pelo> linuxbeast, maybe you could try from the recovery mode
[11:40] <ipx> Jengerer: type asoundconf list, what do you get?
[11:40] <jamster545> ipx: now what? i installed the package
[11:40] <scguy318> Yuzzy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[11:40] <ipx> jamster545: just connect to the server using your local login and port 22
[11:40] <Jengerer> Names of available sound cards:
[11:40] <Jengerer> Intel
[11:40] <jamster545> how do i set up the server... i am making my computer a proxy
[11:40] <ipx> Jengerer: sudo asoundconf set-default-card Intel
[11:41] <NuCobra> Hello all, Is there a list of game that will run on Linux, or any one know if Never Winter Nights will?
[11:41] <Pelo> Jengerer, try looking up your model ( lappy and soundcrad) in the forum ,maybe trhere are speciial instrucitons
[11:41] <ipx> Jengerer: does it solve your problem?
[11:41] <scguy318> NuCobra: plenty of games in repos
[11:41] <ipx> Jengerer: if not, try a reboot
[11:41] <scguy318> NuCobra: lemme see about Neverwinter NIghts
[11:41] <chief> NuCobra: Neverwinter Nights has a native Linux client
[11:41] <Jengerer> Pelo, I tried that already, and its either that nobody has the same Lappy model, or they DO have the same, but they didn't resolve it.
[11:41] <jamster545> ipx: i am making an SSH server not connecting to one. i am turning my comp into a personal proxy
[11:41] <chief> NuCobra: http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html
[11:42] <NuCobra> chief, so if i install with wine it will run?
[11:42] <ipx> jamster545: the computer u installed "ssh" on now has a ssh-server.
[11:42] <NuCobra> ty
[11:42] <chief> NuCobra: don't need Wine
[11:42] <jamster545> i need to configure it
[11:42] <ipx> sec
[11:42] <chief> NuCobra: you do need a valid CD-key, however
[11:42] <scguy318> NuCobra: http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html
[11:42] <scguy318> chief: beat me :)
[11:42] <chief> ;-)
[11:42] <jamster545> ipx: how do i configure the options????
[11:42] <ipx> jamster545: sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:43] <jamster545> ok thx
[11:43] <Jengerer> IPX, I've tried that also, and it didn't seem to work.
[11:43] <enes> :(
[11:43] <ipx> Jengerer: ok :/
[11:43] <ipx> Jengerer: thats odd, cause it seems your drivers are already installed
[11:43] <enes> i use Kazehakase and i dont login :| why ?
[11:43] <Jengerer> Yeah, and I tried the drivers from ALSA already, too... :(
[11:44] <ipx> Jengerer: do not give up, make a thread on www.ubuntuforums.com
[11:44] <ipx> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[11:44] <Jengerer> I tried that, but it was just bumped to the next page without a reply.
[11:44] <wolferine> afternoon
[11:45] <ipx> hm?
[11:45] <niekie> Jengerer: you could always try Launchpad answers too.
[11:45] <ipx> link the thread you made
[11:45] <mike01> i just booted my install on a new motherboard...
[11:45] <mike01> how do i get it to redetect all my new hardware?
[11:45] <ipx> mike01: you should reinstall
[11:45] <mike01> don't want to
[11:45] <ipx> you should
[11:45] <wolferine> good luck then
[11:45] <Jengerer> ipx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546975
[11:45] <mike01> most of the stuff works
[11:45] <mike01> its just a few things
[11:46] <wolferine> mike01, like ?
[11:46] <mike01> like my video drivers beryl stuff is broken
[11:46] <mike01> and my mouse keys
[11:46] <mike01> i think i juts need to re-edit the conifgs
[11:46] <NuCobra> chief, big download, and looks like i have 3 new plastic-coated aluminum-reinforced W1nd0z3 brand coasters.
[11:46] <Kasuko> Can someone help with with fsck issues. Everytime or almost everytime my computer books it fails a fsck on /dev/sda3 but if I go into the live cd and run it it either fixes it or it doesnt even find a problem
[11:46] <wolferine> mike01, lspci | grep vga
[11:46] <ipx> Jengerer: wait a day or two, you've only had it up for 3 hours!
[11:46] <jamster545> i only know how to configure the ports... the other stuff confuses me
[11:46] <chief> NuCobra: yeah, someone at BioWare has a sense of humor :-)
[11:46] <Kasuko> boots**
[11:46] <Jengerer> ipx: Do people really check posts that are on the 2nd-5th page?
[11:46] <ipx> jamster545: what do you want to do?
[11:46] <mike01> no result
[11:46] <d4rkmonkey> Jengerer yes?
[11:47] <NuCobra> chief, ya :)
[11:47] <jamster545> set it up as a proxy, ipx
[11:47] <mike01> VGA
[11:47] <ipx> Jengerer: you should hope so! :)
[11:47] <ipx> jamster545: with ssh...?
[11:47] <jamster545> yes
[11:47] <mike01> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 Ultra/GeForce 6800 GT]  (rev a2)
[11:47] <ipx> jamster545: only ssh cant do it
[11:47] <nickrud> Jengerer: usually it's because the driver didn't recognize your model ; try adding     options snd_hda_intel model=conexant  in it's own file in /etc/modprobe.d
[11:47] <jamster545> yes it can
[11:47] <sleepster> is there a way to maximize a window across multiple monitors?
[11:47] <Jengerer> Okay, then. I guess I should just wait. Thanks for all the help, ipx.
[11:47] <jamster545> you can do it using PuTTY, ipx
[11:47] <sasa> hello. Does anyone know of expanding an NTFS partition using unallocated space when (booted off live cd of otherwise)?
[11:47] <wolferine> mike01, is the video working, just not beryl ?
[11:47] <ipx> jamster545: i think you mean that you want to stream the traffic through ssh? :o
[11:47] <mike01> wow it detected all the new intel pci drivers and stuff
[11:47] <mike01> was amd...
[11:47] <ipx> Jengerer: allright, i hope you get helped! :)
[11:47] <mike01> video works, just not beryl
[11:48] <mike01> and its not using nvidia drivers
[11:48] <jamster545> idk i just saw how to make a proxy using SSH
[11:48] <mike01> or it is but the dual display setup is broken
[11:48] <ipx> jamster545: ok.. :o
[11:48] <ipx> i might be wrong
[11:48] <wolferine> mike01, ask for that in #ubuntu-effects
[11:48] <jamster545> i just need to know what settings to change other than the port from 22 to 443
[11:48] <nickrud> Jengerer: http://alsa.opensrc.org/Hda has some other options
[11:49] <wolferine> mike01, what else isnt setup correctly ?
[11:49] <Jengerer> nickrud: In the file, the other options lines have dashes instead of underscores, do I put snd-hda-intel or what you wrote?
[11:49] <ipx> jamster545: u sure u dont have to install anything extra? :o
[11:49] <Ras420> hello, i recently bouught an apple powerbook g4 and would rather have ubuntu on it, but am curious if it would work with the built in wireless card and battery stuff, like amount of power remaining type of thing....does anyone know if it would be practial to put ubuntu on it or just use osx??
[11:49] <mike01> damn it remade my xorg file
[11:49] <mike01> so all the dual monitor stuff got deleted
[11:49] <nickrud> Jengerer: go with the underscore, I misstyped
[11:49] <jamster545> i just know that you have to use PuTTY on the remote machine accessing the server to set up a secure tunnel to it
[11:49] <mike01> glad it booted though
[11:49] <Jengerer> OKay, I'm going to try to restart. I'll be back fairly soon.
[11:50] <mike01> its using the vesa driver
[11:50] <jamster545> did u get that ipx?
[11:50] <meoblast001> uh oh
[11:50] <ipx> jamster545: yeah i read it.. but never heard about ssh being a proxy server before.. cant help u sorry :):)
[11:50] <meoblast001> nautilus is restricting me access to my own disk
[11:51] <meoblast001> what do i do?
[11:51] <ipx> meoblast001: sudo nautilus :D
[11:51] <jamster545> i dont need help on that aspect ipx. i just need to know what settings to change to make it accessible
[11:51] <sasa> hello. Can anyone please tell me how can I add all of my unallocated space to NTFS partition?
[11:51] <meoblast001> ipx: i did that (Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "disk-1".)
[11:51] <scguy318> jamster: accessible how?
[11:51] <ipx> jamster545: since i've never even heard of it, i have no idea what setting to change :)
[11:51] <nickrud> meoblast001: there are certain places that you don't have write access to, and be extremely careful with nautilus; use gksu or gksudo with it if you must
[11:51] <scguy318> jamster: i missed the past discussion
[11:52] <ipx> meoblast001: hm.. t_t
[11:52] <meoblast001> nickrud: i did that
[11:52] <Major_Marbles> Hi all! I have a questions about totem movie player... It wont play movies. How can i get it to play a dvd? It says i dont have the required plug-in to use it.
[11:52] <jamster545> i am setting up an SSH server as a proxy, tunneling with PuTTY, scguy318
[11:52] <ipx> meoblast001: but you can access it through the terminal?
[11:52] <meoblast001> ipx: ill try
[11:52] <piero_> jester-: tutto ok sono in wifi dal portatile
[11:52] <nickrud> meoblast001: does that disk-1 have thousands of files in a directory?
[11:52] <piero_> grazie per il supporto
[11:52] <scguy318> jamster545: so what do you require?
[11:52] <kRush> how do I change time/date/etc formats from us to german without changing the system language?
[11:53] <jamster545> i need to know what settings as far as IP and protocol and such on the SSH server to make it accessible
[11:53] <meoblast001> ipx: bash: cd: /media/disk-1/: Permission denied
[11:53] <sasa> can anyone help please? I am trying to find a way to add remaining unallocated space towards the NTFS partition. On Gparted, it doesn't let me expand the NTFS partition to include unpartitioned space.
[11:53] <bohemian1717> exit
[11:53] <meoblast001> nickrud: yes but i always used to be able to access it before
[11:53] <kRush> !locales
[11:53] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[11:53] <ipx> meoblast001: then its nothing wrong with nautilus, its some problem with the permissions
[11:53] <jamster545> did you get that scguy318?i forgot to put ur name in it
[11:53] <grtrew> Anyone know of some bug that restarts X when Google Earth is started?
[11:53] <nickrud> meoblast001: ls -ld /media/disk-1, what permissions does it have on it?
[11:54] <scguy318> jamster: in the client, you would put the public IP of the server and the port the SSH server is listening on
[11:54] <larson9999> i have citrix terminal server client on two feisty boxes here i use to connect to xp at work.  on one after i'm logged in to work alt+tab switches between the windows tabs but on the other it switches between the terminal server and my other linux windows.  anyone know why and what settings i set for this behavior?
[11:54] <scguy318> grtrew: have your restricted drivers installed?
[11:54] <jamster545> i dont know what settings to changeon the actual server other than the ports scguy318
[11:54] <meoblast001> nickrud: dr-x------ 1 root root 36864 2007-09-09 08:57 /media/disk-1
[11:54] <mike01> hmmm while nvidia driver works, now just need to get the resolution fixed
[11:54] <mike01> and get the 2nd monitor worknig
[11:55] <zcat[1] > !resolution
[11:55] <scguy318> jamster545: you don't need to change anything...?
[11:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:55] <jamster545> the config file for the SSH server says the ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:55] <NuCobra> chief, now lets see if i can install it right lol
[11:55] <Jengerer> IPX/Nickrud, it didn't work, but I think that it could be because I played around with the settings too much, 'cause now it gives me errors that weren't there before. I'm probably going to re-install Ubuntu.
[11:55] <dazrour> hi
[11:55] <nickrud> meoblast001: ok, only root can read it.
[11:55] <scguy318> jamster545: <IP_ADDRESS> = listen on all interfaces
[11:55] <ipx> Jengerer: sounds like a good idea, never give up! ;)
[11:55] <nickrud> Jengerer: try that http://alsa.opensrc.org/Hda page first
[11:56] <jamster545> ipx and scguy318 thanx for all the help. i will come back if i cant figure it out
[11:56] <NuCobra> chief, and can i get all the character files from my windows install?
[11:56] <scguy318> jamster: http://tiger.la.asu.edu/Quick_Ref/OpenSSH_quickref.pdf
[11:56] <meoblast001> nickrud: but i gksu nautilus and it didnt work
[11:56] <nickrud> meoblast001: chmod a+xr /media/disk-1
[11:56] <jamster545> ty scguy318
[11:57] <meoblast001> nickrud: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/disk-1': Read-only file system
[11:57] <dazrour>  i am testin gutsy and i have the x crashing on 3d gl problem
[11:57] <ipx> jamster545: :) good luck
[11:57] <zcat[1] > mount /media/disk-1 -o remount,umask=0 perhaps?
[11:57] <nickrud> meoblast001: is that an ntfs/fat disk?
[11:57] <meoblast001> nickrud: NTFS (worked in the past)
[11:57] <Jengerer> Nickrud, the second line has a part that says, "model=asus" should I replace that with "model=conexant"?
[11:57] <nickrud> meoblast001: see zcat[1]  above
[11:57] <zcat[1] > mount /media/disk-1 -o remount,rw might help
[11:57] <bruenig> meoblast001, needs to be mounted with ntfs-3g
[11:57] <Pingviller> so I'm trying to get guild wars to work with wine.. using this as reference: http://www.linuxlogin.com/games/guildwars.php          but how do I set up the registry keys at the bottom of the page? I can't find the direct3d registry with wine regedit
[11:58] <dazrour> i have read the bug it says that a xserver-xorg patch can be removed and it works
[11:58] <Ron__> hello
[11:58] <nickrud> Jengerer: look through those options, see which matches your hardware :)
[11:58] <zcat[1] > if it's ntfs yeah, don't try rw unless you're using ntfs-3g
[11:58] <dazrour> how do i remove a patch from xserver-xorg
[11:58] <zcat[1] > !ntfs
[11:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:58] <grtrew> In the past for my laptop, I have tried to enable nvidia drives without much luck, it would make my X all black, so I couldn't do anything?  I would usually reinstall.  is there a way to can roll back a driver if it happens again?
[11:58] <Ron__> how can i mount the ext3 partition to be bootable?
[11:58] <nickrud> Jengerer: pick one, of course
[11:58] <scguy318> Pingviller: what Wine version, what Guild Wars version?
[11:59] <Ron__> i use ubuntu 6.06 live cd
[11:59] <jplove71> Filezilla is a GUI FTP program, correct?
[11:59] <nickrud> jplove71: yes
[11:59] <jplove71> nickrud, ty  =)
[12:00] <dazrour> can anyone tell me how to rebuild xserver-xorg without a specific patch
[12:00] <PKdoR> how can i configure the extra buttons on my logitech mouse?
[12:00] <Jengerer> Nickrud, I think I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu before I try those options, because when I test the Playback options, most of them give me errors.
[12:00] <bruenig> !mouse
[12:00] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:00] <zcat[1] > grtrew: next time it happens, atrl-alt-F1, log in, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the line that reads 'driver nvidia' back to 'driver nv'
[12:00] <Ron__> does anyone know how to mount ext3 partition
[12:00] <scguy318> Pingviller: I think it's HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D, create if they dont exist
[12:00] <Pingviller> scguy318: 0.9.44 wine and guild wars.. well.. uhm
[12:01] <grtrew> thanks zcat
[12:01] <nickrud> Jengerer: reinstall is always an option, especially if you have a fast net for updates.
[12:01] <zcat[1] > Ron__: mkdir /media/disk ; mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk
[12:01] <meoblast001> nickrud: im confused its outputting too many long errors
[12:01] <Pingviller> scguy318: k k
[12:01] <Jengerer> Yeah, it takes me 5 minutes maximum to get the first set of updates, and just about the same for Wave 2.
[12:01] <nickrud> meoblast001: pastebin your /etc/fstab on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:02] <Jengerer> Nickrud, I'll see you later! Wish me luck!
[12:02] <Jengerer> Thanks for the help!
[12:02] <nickrud> Jengerer: luck!
[12:02] <Motorola572> hello
[12:02] <Ron__> zcat : i got message only root can do that
[12:02] <SkiGuy> is it possible to mount one folder on disk 1 inside a folder on disc 2?
[12:02] <nickrud> meoblast001: this is a pluggable external hard drive?
[12:02] <dazrour> can anyone tell me how to rebuild xserver-xorg without a specific patch
[12:02] <Motorola572> were do i go to find  help on beryl?
[12:02] <NuCobra> chief, you get my last Question?
[12:02] <nickrud> !effects | Motorola572
[12:02] <ubotu> Motorola572: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:03] <zcat[1] > Ron__: try using 'sudo' in front of those commands then
[12:03] <Motorola572> ok
[12:03] <Motorola572> thanks
[12:03] <zcat[1] > Ron__: sudo mkdir /media/disk ; sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk
[12:03] <meoblast001> nickrud: http://pastebin.ca/689197
[12:03] <nickrud> Motorola572: actually, #compiz-fusion would be better
[12:03] <Motorola572> ok
[12:04] <Pingviller> scguy318: gonna try again now then and see if it just breaks like last time :P