[06:33] <sig> is it in the grub menu thing?
[06:33] <trappist> sig: I use reiserfs for most things
[06:33] <imrabti> i used rmmod ide_cd to desactivate it
[06:33] <sig> ok, I'll try that
[06:33] <Amaranth> sig: yeah
[06:33] <Amaranth> sig: it'll take a long time
[06:33] <dallows> dooglus: I will have gcc-3.3 after build-essential too ?
[06:33] <sig> thats ok
[06:33] <imrabti> but when i restart my computer it still there
[06:33] <sig> I'm backing up this laptop now just in case it crashes
[06:34] <s0n1cm0n13y> anyone?
[06:34] <dooglus> dallows: if you want gcc-3.3, install package 'gcc-3.3'.  build-essential won't remove it.
[06:34] <Amaranth> sig: Good idea. Bad RAM can mess up a HD just as bad as the HD itself dying
[06:34] <Hal9000> i need help configuring my TV tuner card!
[06:34] <Hal9000> 0000:01:08.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133 Audio+video broadcast decoder (rev d0)
[06:34] <Amaranth> sig: except one is fixable without buying a new HD :)
[06:34] <sig> Amaranth: ok so if memtest says all is good then we can assume it is the HD?
[06:34] <_jason> coNP, I don't know.  I just did it yesterday and ran configure, make, checkinstall almost straight through without problems.  Just needed a dependency here and there.
[06:34] <Hal9000> it's an Asus MyCinema 7133 Dual, but it doesn't work :(
[06:35] <coNP> _jason: thx, I try to google it
[06:35] <_jason> coNP, did you use any oprtions in configure?
[06:35] <imrabti> please help
[06:35] <dallows> dooglus: alright.. I have installed gcc-3.3 (apt-get install gcc-3.3) and now Im going to install build essential.. ;-)
[06:35] <Amaranth> sig: yeah
[06:35] <sig> Amaranth: ok cool
[06:35] <sig> I guess if it's the HD I'll get a SMART drive
[06:36] <Amaranth> sig: The HD is more likely though, the warranty on them is only a year for a reason.
[06:36] <Amaranth> sig: HDs either die right after that or last for years, it seems
[06:36] <thegladiator> so hows the dapper release ?
[06:36] <sig> Amaranth: yeah, heh
[06:36] <shadox> thegladiator, hi there :D
[06:36] <Hal9000> i think im going to upgrade to dapper, if my tv card doesnt work :(
[06:36] <sig> although I saw a seagate 160gig yesterday for 98 bucks
[06:36] <sig> so things have got cheaper
[06:37] <thegladiator> shadox, hi there . hows the temp in belgium ? ;d
[06:37] <thegladiator> shadox, did you ship ur free cd's by th way ?
[06:37] <the_mr_bong_show> ok now i got more questions like can i take my bookmarks from windows 2 firefox in Ubuntu coz i got my bookmarks on a cd
[06:37] <shadox> thegladiator, inside the house it's pretty good :D yup i ship them, they will arrive within a month or 2 :)
[06:37] <tonyayo> thnx for the help guys, i got the packages i was looking for, everyting worked once i spelled ubuntu correctly ( not unbuntu )
[06:37] <thegladiator> hows the dapper release anyone ? any reviews ? any betterment over the breeeeeeeezy ?
[06:38] <thegladiator> cool
[06:38] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, just copy the bookmarks.html file to your profile folder
[06:38] <thegladiator> and right now are u on 5.4 ?
[06:38] <thegladiator> ubuntu is an Afriacn word
[06:38] <gnomefreak> with just the plain ./configure will install everything?
[06:38] <nalioth> gnomefreak: yes, no tweaking necessary
[06:38] <lukus001> I have an asus sli-deluxe motherboard, but the rear and center audio socket dont work - is there some sort of driver that'll get them to work - realtek 8 channel audio built into the mobo..?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> ok ty nalioth
[06:39] <shadox> thegladiator, now i know why i had to go trough 451 updates :D i was on 5.04 and had a sourcelist for 5.1, but everything runs fine since i installed 5.1 :D
[06:39] <the_mr_bong_show> and why is it when i got a cd in my rom i can eject it by the butten but by right clicking then eject
[06:39] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, just  a doubt is it "geenome" or nome ? with 'g' silent ?
[06:39] <djp> can totem movie player playback .iso or .img files?
[06:39] <gnomefreak> g=silent
[06:40] <arnducky> djp no
[06:40] <thegladiator> thanks
[06:40] <arnducky> You need to burn them first
[06:40] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: in *nix, the drives are locked for use. until you tell the software you are done, the hardware button(s) are disabled
[06:40] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:40] <djp> arnducky, ok, thanks.
[06:40] <bo> :|
[06:40] <thegladiator> shadox, and howz it ? 5.4 ? buggy ?
[06:40] <_jason> gnomefreak, I thought you pronounced the g gah-nome
[06:41] <arnducky> (for the iso you could mount them with isofs too, then read them like any normal drive)
[06:41] <nalioth> _jason: enunciation and elocution in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:41] <Ng> _jason: correct
[06:41] <sig> gee
[06:41] <sig> gee'nome
[06:41] <shadox> thegladiator, not 5.4 but 5.04 the hoary one :)
[06:41] <Stormx2> I need macromedia shockwave methinks. That same as flash?
[06:41] <nalioth> sig: #ubuntu-offtopic please with the language lessons
[06:41] <_jason> Stormx2, doesn't exist for linux
[06:41] <arnducky> the_mr_bong_show, you canDISABLE the autolocking though if you want
[06:42] <thegladiator> shadox, are you doing anthropology research ? try to keep abreast with latest :) 5.04 is pretty old
[06:42] <thegladiator> shadox, still do you find it buggy ?
[06:42] <arnducky> I use powertweak to do all that kinda stuff on my Debian box -- kubuntu might ahve a control center applet though
[06:43] <shadox> thegladiator,  no it's pretty fine, some changes, but not that much, not buggy at all (but h that's my oppinion) :D
[06:43] <bigman2> is there a way to write to ntf via linux ? im sure there is but how ?
[06:43] <arnducky> Stormx2, no mm-shockwave and flash are two separate programs by the same publisher
[06:43] <thegladiator> k
[06:43] <sig> guh-NOME"
[06:43] <sig> ok
[06:44] <sig> :)
[06:44] <lukus001> Is there some sort of audio driver i have to install to get my center and rear outputs to work?
[06:44] <shadox> thegladiotar, i installed it becaus the life version of 5.1 wouldn't work in my notebook, the 5.04 i got original (shipped one from a friend) and that one worked, so i thought why not installing 5.04 :)
[06:44] <nalioth> sig: there is a discussion right now in #ubuntu-offtopic on this
[06:44] <karlan> anyone having problems with connecting to MSN with Gaim?
[06:44] <sig> nalioth: ok
[06:44] <sig> no biggy
[06:44] <shadox> karlan, yup
[06:44] <arnducky> lukus001, crimsun is your best bet for Linux sound system help
[06:45] <arnducky> he's lurking in herer RN
[06:45] <gabis> where to get program Alien?
[06:45] <karlan> shadox, ok, webmessenger does work thou. and several of my friends using windows is on msn right now
[06:45] <gabis> its about Skype installing
[06:45] <bigman2> is there a way to write to ntf via linux ? im sure there is but how ?
[06:45] <_jason> !info alien
[06:45] <sig> nalioth: do you know if there is a current ubuntu iso with all the bug fixes/updates on it? Or do I have to get the old iso and then update/upgrade ?
[06:45] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[06:45] <lukus001> arnducky, crimsun? is that a person, place or file? lol
[06:45] <shadox> karlan, ueuhm speaking of an linux gaim problem? sounds strange
[06:45] <_jason> gabis, it's in the repositories
[06:45] <nalioth> sig: you'll need to install and upgrade
[06:46] <sorush20> guys my kernel boot hangs at after that battery checking status in Kubiuntu
[06:46] <Amaranth> bigman2: You need Captive NTFS
[06:46] <sig> nalioth: crappy
[06:46] <sorush20> could someone help please?
[06:46] <Amaranth> bigman2: You won't find anything for it in the repos though
[06:46] <karlan> shadox, yeah, or just gaim. my windows-friends (:p) are using MSN messenger
[06:46] <karlan> seems strange, the connection is interrupted when sending the cookie
[06:46] <bigman2> Amaranth, where can i find it then
[06:46] <shadox> karlan, and did you tried the web messenger?
[06:47] <karlan> shadox, yeah, that worked
[06:47] <karlan> but there are some compabilityissues when using linux
[06:47] <Amaranth> bigman2: I dunno. Google should find something though.
[06:47] <karlan> hey, now it works :P
[06:47] <arnducky> bigman2, look at http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[06:47] <shadox> karlan, sounds like a gaim error ind
[06:47] <mamoru> hello
[06:48] <karlan> yeah, but it worked now. self-fixing problem ;D
[06:48] <shadox> karlan, does it stops connecting by sending a cookie?
[06:48] <jasonjdp> my onboard audio didnt get set up correctly during ubuntu install.  i dont hear any sound. i dont think the system recognizes it.  its CMI8738/C3DX on a A7V333 mobo.  how do i go about fixing this? i found linux audio drivers for my onboard audio, but the install info is bad
[06:48] <arnducky> There are two options for writing to NTFS under Linux, but one of them is commercial and somewhat pricey.
[06:48] <bigman2> Amaranth,  how do i convert rpm to debian
[06:48] <mamoru> can someone help me with the following:
[06:48] <shedi> bigman2, alien
[06:48] <mamoru>  startdelphi
[06:48] <mamoru> /usr/local/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[06:48] <a457rt> :|
[06:48] <Amaranth> !tell bigman about info alien
[06:48] <bigman2> shedi, whats the command
[06:49] <bo> :|
[06:49] <arnducky> lukus001, /me points at the 650 name nick list
[06:50] <mula`> can you name me a good fax tool?
[06:50] <bigman2> Amaranth, it didnt tell me
 :|
[06:51] <shadox> noirequus, what is the command to change your nickname :$
[06:51] <Amaranth> bigman2: sudo apt-get install alien
[06:51] <Amaranth> bigman2: then sudo alien <file name>.rpm
[06:51] <bigman2> Amaranth, i have alien
[06:51] <_jason> Shadowline, /nick
[06:51] <Amaranth> bigman2: then sudo dpkg -i <file name>.deb
[06:51] <_jason> shadox, /nick
[06:52] <shadox> like that?
[06:52] <lukus001> arnducky, how do you send personal messages on here then ..lol
[06:52] <bigman2> Amaranth,  i did alien filename.rpm test.deb
[06:52] <bo> my readng
[06:52] <_jason> shadox, /nick mycoolnew nickname
[06:52] <shadox> euhm, didn't work :(
[06:52] <Amaranth> lukus001: /msg <nick> <message>
[06:52] <mycoolnew> ahaaaa :D
[06:52] <arnducky> lukus001, you can't unless you register your nickname and login
[06:53] <lukus001> ty both of you
[06:53] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i take my Favorites from xp to firefox on ubuntu
[06:53] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, I told you already
[06:53] <the_mr_bong_show> i got the Favorites folder on cd
[06:53] <arnducky> otherwise the IRC commands are /MSG /QUERY /NOTICE and /DCC CHAT
[06:53] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, is it from firefox?
[06:53] <the_mr_bong_show> i know but where is the profile
[06:53] <the_mr_bong_show> it from ie
[06:54] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, /.mozilla/firefox/profiles/*.default i think
[06:54] <Shadowline> shadowx: the correct way to change your nick is /nick <name>
[06:54] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, well the ie ones are just links.  It works differently in firefox.  Firefox just has a file called bookmarks.html with all of the links inside.
[06:54] <_freelove> whats the command to set a root password?
[06:54] <Stormx2> I have to go onto windows :O
[06:55] <shadox> Shadowline: thnQ :)

[06:55] <Shadowline> shadox: np
[06:55] <bigman2> Amaranth, how do i run this captive ntfs ?
[06:55] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, there may be a way to import them but I don't know
[06:55] <the_mr_bong_show> ok thinks
[06:55] <Amaranth> bigman2: I have no idea, I've never used it.
[06:55] <the_mr_bong_show> thanks
[06:55] <a457rt> :|
[06:56] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_Import_IE_Bookmarks#From_Internet_Explorer
[06:56] <jasonjdp> ive got onboard audio on my a7v333 mobo but it didnt get set up right with ubuntu install.  i found linux drivers, but the install doesnt seem to apply correctly for ubuntu.  has anybody had similar problems?
[06:56] <dallows> hm
[06:56] <dallows> checking for mysql-devel... no
[06:56] <dallows> configure: error: "install mysql-devel or somewhere it's called mysql-dev"
[06:57] <dallows> what can I do with it ?
[06:57] <Amaranth> !find mysql-dev
[06:57] <dallows> Can't find that package, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture.
[06:57] <dallows> :-/
[06:57] <manchine> in which file can i set LC_ALL?
[06:57] <Amaranth> ubotu: is broken or something
[06:57] <ubotu> Amaranth: Syntax error in line 1
[06:57] <a457rt> :|
[06:58] <Amaranth> dallows: apt-cache search mysql | grep '-dev'
[06:58] <dallows> Amaranth: thx ;-)
[06:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'mysql-dev' returned no results.
[06:58] <manchine> dpkg-reconfigure locales does not set LC_ALL... weired
[06:59] <dallows> grep: unknown directories method
[06:59] <dallows> :-/
[06:59] <dallows> :-(
[06:59] <Amaranth> dallows: oops
[06:59] <Amaranth> dallows: apt-cache search mysql
[06:59] <Amaranth> dallows: you'll have to find it in the list yourself, i guess
[06:59] <Amaranth> manchine: you need to use the language selector in gnome
[06:59] <_freelove> how to set root password?
[06:59] <Amaranth> manchine: it's either under system->preferences or system->administration
[06:59] <manchine> sudo passwd root
[07:00] <a457rt> mr. bo
[07:00] <Amaranth> !tell _freelove about sudo
[07:00] <Amaranth> manchine: naughty
[07:00] <yggdrasil> hello guys
[07:00] <bigman2> Amaranth, is there any other way it was nice to reccomend that but it has 0 documentation on how to use it
[07:00] <yggdrasil> is the the right place for old world ppc ubuntu talk ?
[07:00] <Amaranth> bigman2: that's the only way
[07:00] <_freelove> Amaranth: i know all that......i need to set root passwd for my bro.......cant make him a sudoer!!
[07:01] <a457rt> jaguar34
[07:01] <trappist> _freelove: why not?
[07:01] <Amaranth> _freelove: then sudo passwd root
[07:01] <nickrud> _freelove, adduser <brother> admin
[07:01] <susana_> hi
[07:01] <OdeLon2> Hi, I am using ubuntu 5.1 as a host system for LFS... however, I am at a stage where I require root shell access (not sudo) - any ideas?
[07:01] <nickrud> _freelove, that'll give him sudoer rights
[07:01] <susana_> I have one problem with my w2k fat partition
[07:01] <karlan> to install Java Runtime Enviroment in Firefox 1.5 in ubuntu, how could i do that in the best way?
[07:01] <dallows> I found only libwww-dev :-(
[07:01] <calamari> hi
[07:01] <susana_> from gnome when I enter in this partion and I try to delete something I dont get the option in the pop-up menu
[07:01] <susana_> why?
[07:02] <calamari> OdeLon2: is "sudo su" adequate?
[07:02] <_freelove> trappist: if i make him sudoer he will wreak havoc on my system!
[07:02] <nickrud> calamari, sudo -i is better
[07:02] <yggdrasil> ive got ubuntu running on a starmax ppc and im having some issues with xwindows , anyone here familiar with that ?
[07:02] <trappist> _freelove: but he won't if he's root?
[07:02] <OdeLon2> calamari: If that loggs me in as root, then yes.
[07:02] <calamari> nickrud: do you mean sudo -s ?
[07:02] <trappist> _freelove: at least with sudo you can give him root access only to certain commands
[07:03] <Sh4d0x> huh :s i cannot register my nickname :s
[07:03] <Amaranth> _freelove: He won't be able to use sudo unless you specifically enable it.
[07:03] <Amaranth> _freelove: So just make him a regular account.
[07:03] <toresbe> I live life on the edge etcetera!!
[07:03] <manchine> susana_, grab a fresh j2se binary, install it and symlink the plugin to the proper FF dir
[07:03] <Amaranth> _freelove: No need for root
[07:03] <nickrud> calamari, well, sudo -s is equiv to su , and sudo -i to su - (if I remember right)
[07:03] <calamari> nickrud: cool.. that's nice to know :)
[07:04] <yggdrasil> or how about xwindows with a mach 64 vt ?
[07:04] <nickrud> calamari, and, sudo -i is better ;P
[07:04] <toresbe> mach64? Isn't that... very very old?
[07:04] <calamari> hehe
[07:04] <_freelove> Amaranth: look.....my bro has a non-sudo account.....he knows his passwd....now often i want to do things while STILL being in his account...how to do this??
[07:05] <toresbe> _freelove: you can su to yourself then sudo?
[07:05] <Amaranth> _freelove: you could just flip to a terminal and login as you to do root things
[07:05] <calamari> I can't remember how to review the boot messages.. ready to write it down this time :)
[07:05] <Amaranth> calamari: dmesg
[07:05] <Sh4d0x> noobish question but can anyone tell me how to register my nickname :$
[07:05] <calamari> Amaranth: thank you :)
[07:05] <Amaranth> Sh4d0x: /msg chanserv register <password>
[07:05] <_freelove> toresbe: problem solved....tvon from #kubuntu just told me the solution:)
[07:06] <Sh4d0x> amaranth, thnx you rule :D
[07:06] <toresbe> mmk
[07:06] <yggdrasil> toresbe this whole thing is very old its an old mac clone
[07:06] <yggdrasil> ive got everything going on it
[07:06] <yggdrasil> x is runing but it looks like crap
[07:06] <djbentrem> how can i get sound to work with games as well as with system event sounds?
[07:06] <toresbe> yggdrasil: X doesn't go too far on the Mach64
[07:06] <yggdrasil> hmmm
[07:06] <totos> :|
[07:06] <toresbe> IIRC its max res is 800x600 at 16 colours
[07:06] <yggdrasil> sad
[07:07] <toresbe> and 640x480 at 256
[07:07] <yggdrasil> funny that macos made it work
[07:07] <jaguar34> :|
[07:07] <yggdrasil> at 800 x 6000 and like 32
[07:07] <yggdrasil> or at least 24
[07:08] <yggdrasil> just not sure how its gonna react to trying to put another vid card in . this box is kinda neet it has apple keyboard stuff and ps2 keyboard/mouse ide drive
[07:08] <OdeLon2> Thanks guys, 'sudo su' did the trick
[07:08] <yggdrasil> ive been tweaking on it for 2 weeks
[07:08] <eobanb> yggdrasil, yeah i have some stuff like that
[07:08] <eobanb> clones with ps/2 ports
[07:08] <yggdrasil> yea
[07:08] <yggdrasil> so i should just work on getting another vid card in then
[07:08] <calamari> yggdrasil: pretty sure that the old macos have a lot of straight asm code in them :)
[07:09] <yggdrasil> menuetos
[07:09] <yggdrasil> hhe
[07:09] <eobanb> you said it was a motorola starmax?
[07:09] <yggdrasil> yep
[07:09] <calamari> afaik, so did windows 3.1
[07:09] <eobanb> yeah i have no idea if video cards for that would need a mac firmware or what
[07:10] <eobanb> i dont think mac os had a lot of asm, as far as i know almost all of it was written in pascal
[07:11] <rtsai> Can I use "testing" or "unstable" or something in my ubuntu /etc/apt/sources.list like with plain debian? Or do I always have to keep updating it for hoary/breezy/dapper?
[07:11] <calamari> I guess dmesg doesn't show everything.. I saw an alsa error about my cd mixer name.. that's important to me because I can't hear my CD's play right now :)
[07:11] <calamari> can I have all boot error messages redirect to a file?
[07:11] <eobanb> rtsai, i guess you could think of dapper as like sid
[07:12] <rtsai> eobanb: for sid I can use "unstable". Can I do the same with the ubuntu repositories? (e.g., is there a similar alias system in place)
[07:12] <eobanb> rtsai, yes it works exactly the same way.
[07:12] <nubbe> does Backports work for amd64?
[07:12] <GoRi||a>  ok, im running ubantu, and need to get kernel source code..but cant find package for 2.6.12-9-386, what do i do?
[07:12] <rtsai> ah, thanks.
[07:12] <eobanb> rtsai, i'd say you're probably going to find dapper less usable than debian sid though
[07:12] <rtsai> eobanb: so you don't recommend jumping from breezy to dapper right now?
[07:13] <eobanb> rtsai, no i would stick with breezy for now unless you really need some more cutting-edge stuff
[07:13] <nubbe> GoRi||a, maybe u haven't enabled the src repos?
[07:13] <eobanb> rtsai, even breezy is generally more up to date than debian unstable
[07:14] <GoRi||a> the problem is that i need kernel src to compile my wireless card module, and i need the src
[07:14] <rtsai> eobanb: ok, thanks. Any idea if firefox-1.5 will go into breezy?
[07:14] <GoRi||a> no internet
[07:14] <eobanb> rtsai, yes, there's a page on the ubuntu wiki about firefox 1.5
[07:14] <yggdrasil> is there some irc for just ppc ubuntu chat ? ?
[07:14] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: you need kernel headers, and it's on the cd
[07:14] <GoRi||a> i have kernel headers
[07:14] <rtsai> eobanb: thanks!
[07:14] <robotgeek> yggdrasil: yes, we do ppc here :)
[07:14] <GoRi||a> installed them
[07:14] <GoRi||a> but..
[07:14] <GoRi||a> is that the same as kernel source/
[07:15] <yggdrasil> robotgeek im just working on an oldworld mac
[07:15] <GoRi||a> ?
[07:15] <yggdrasil> and i have a problem
[07:15] <eobanb> yggdrasil, does everything basically work?
[07:15] <GoRi||a> and do i need to do an ln -s linux
[07:15] <eobanb> problem..
[07:15] <yggdrasil> everything s working great
[07:15] <eobanb> except?  :)
[07:15] <yggdrasil> except video output is like scrambled
[07:15] <yggdrasil> really gross
[07:15] <eobanb> you mean when you start x?
[07:15] <yggdrasil> yea
[07:15] <GoRi||a> like...make a symbolic link from /usr/src/[headerfolder]  to /usr/src/linux?
[07:15] <LunisTarballds> yggdrasil: old mac, and you are an OLD linux distro too! ;-)
[07:15] <yggdrasil> and i ve reconfiged it a ton of time
[07:16] <eobanb> i'd probably do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg..
[07:16] <eobanb> ah.
[07:16] <jvives> hey guys!!! how can I read directly from a serial por in ubuntu? Like "cat /proc/ttyS0" in debian.
[07:16] <yggdrasil> linus im on hoary
[07:16] <nubbe> GoRi||a, I don't know, but I do know that there are source repos and all r not enabled by default
[07:16] <eobanb> yggdrasil, i'd try fbdev for the driver
[07:16] <yggdrasil> eobanb i did that
[07:16] <nubbe> GoRi||a, a search on ubuntuforum is always good..
[07:16] <eobanb> and it STILL didnt work?
[07:16] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: are you trying to recompile?
[07:16] <yggdrasil> sam thing
[07:16] <eobanb> yggdrasil, but mac os works?
[07:16] <GoRi||a> im trying to compile a wireless usb driver module
[07:16] <yggdrasil> yep
[07:16] <LunisTarballds> yggdrasil: no, i meant your nick! it is the name of a defunct linux distribution from back in the day... ;-)
[07:16] <eobanb> and the framebuffer console works?
[07:16] <yggdrasil> mac os works well
[07:16] <korhalf> where do i find the cURL library>
[07:16] <GoRi||a> and it says i need kernel sourcecode
[07:16] <yggdrasil> ahh linux yes
[07:16] <GoRi||a> before i compile it
[07:17] <korhalf> im trying to apt-cache search it
[07:17] <yggdrasil> linus even
[07:17] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: no, you don't need the source code
[07:17] <GoRi||a> when i do a "make", it fails
[07:17] <yggdrasil> its finding it as a mach64 vt 264 vt
[07:17] <yggdrasil> but like i cant even be sure thats whats on board
[07:17] <yggdrasil> u know its like a mac
[07:17] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: which usb device?
[07:17] <yggdrasil> wonder whats under the cover
[07:17] <yggdrasil> if i can read the chip
[07:17] <eobanb> open and find out
[07:17] <GoRi||a> its a 802.11b/g usb adapter, ill get the model/driver
[07:17] <LunisTarballds> yggdrasil: which mac do you have?
[07:18] <eobanb> yggdrasil, which starmax is it
[07:18] <yggdrasil> linus starmax 3000/180
[07:18] <yggdrasil> tanzania board
[07:18] <LunisTarballds> yggdrasil: oy...mac clone...got it.
[07:18] <ubuntu> hello all
[07:18] <GoRi||a> i have a trendnet usb wireless adapter, and am trying to compile the zd1211 driver for it
[07:18] <eobanb> yggdrasil, does it have both an apple video port and VGA on it?
[07:18] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: hmm, easy doable
[07:19] <yggdrasil> eobanb no just vga
[07:19] <GoRi||a> robotgeek how
[07:19] <yggdrasil> i see the ati chip
[07:19] <eobanb> ati?
[07:19] <eobanb> hm.
[07:19] <ubuntu> anyone could just answer me a question about the ubuntu full version (not the live version) installation?
[07:19] <eobanb> yggdrasil, how would you describe it as 'scrambled'
[07:19] <eobanb> ubuntu, sure, what's the question?
[07:19] <GoRi||a> should i just do a make, then make install on it?
[07:19] <padraig> hello - any suggestions for anywhere else to look for information about solving gnome-cups-manager/cups/printing problem ?
[07:20] <self_> hi all
[07:20] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: i think the driver is in breezy, why don't you try to plug it in?
[07:20] <eobanb> padraig, there should be a page on the wiki about troubleshooting printing
[07:20] <GoRi||a> i did
[07:20] <self_> is serpentine as good as K3b?
[07:20] <ubuntu> when im installing, when i have to choose the HD for partition... i choose one and he says that this operation will erase all data of the discS....
[07:20] <yggdrasil> eobanb ok well when it gois into 24 bit mode i have like sections of the screen wehre its 2 mice
[07:20] <yggdrasil> an other sections where it goes into one mouse
[07:20] <GoRi||a> what should happen when i plug it in?
[07:20] <yggdrasil> uh cursor
[07:20] <ubuntu> should it be the both hds or just the one wich i choose?
[07:20] <eobanb> 24-bit mode? you mean 24-bit colour? what about like 16-bit colour
[07:20] <padraig> thans eobanb - I'll have a look
[07:20] <yggdrasil> ati 264v2
[07:20] <GoRi||a> i look in the device manager applet, and it shows up
[07:20] <GoRi||a> but the indicator light doesnt turn on
[07:20] <yggdrasil> eobanb they are mostly all the same
[07:21] <GoRi||a> is there a wireless card applet in ubuntu?
[07:21] <yggdrasil> even 4 bit is totaly  wierd
[07:21] <yggdrasil> 8 bit is the only one that syncs close
[07:21] <yggdrasil> and its colors are not 8 bit they are like
[07:21] <ubuntu> i think no
[07:21] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:21] <GoRi||a> k
[07:22] <yggdrasil> i oculd maybe take a photo of it
[07:22] <yoav> hey all
[07:22] <ubuntu> when im installing, when i have to choose the HD for partition... i choose one and he says that this operation will erase all data of the discS....
[07:22] <korhalf> Where do I find the cURL library
[07:22] <korhalf> I need it for Sugarcrma
[07:22] <korhalf> nd the people in Sugarcrm are idle
[07:23] <eobanb> yggdrasil, a photo would be great :)
[07:23] <yoav> got some installation problems, anybody free to give it a whif?
[07:23] <yggdrasil> ill do it
[07:23] <yggdrasil> giem a few
[07:23] <yggdrasil> im throwing that chip into the googler
[07:23] <karlan> is there any good programs to view media on a webpage? i always getting an error from totem
[07:23] <korhalf> what package is the cURL library
[07:23] <korhalf> karlan install the mplayer plugin for mozilla
[07:23] <karlan> korhalf, ok, thx
[07:23] <self_> gnomefreek...hello
[07:23] <korhalf> i got the php4-curl module
[07:24] <korhalf> but it didnt make a difference
[07:24] <gnomefreak_away> hi self_   bbl everyone
[07:24] <self_> where are you from?
[07:24] <self_> country
[07:24] <self_> <<is curious
[07:25] <korhalf> self_, offtopic
[07:25] <korhalf> What package is the cURL library?
[07:25] <karlan> korhalf, what is the exact name on apt-get ?
[07:25] <karlan> cant find it
[07:25] <korhalf> karlan, mozilla-mplayer
[07:25] <korhalf> lol
[07:25] <karlan> :P
[07:25] <korhalf> make sure you have mplayer installed
[07:25] <self_> ?...sorry just curious
[07:25] <korhalf> and the w32 codecs for those stupid wmvs and wmas
[07:25] <karlan> strange that i couldnt find it when searching for mplayer :O
[07:25] <GoRi||a> my wireless adapter isnt listed under supported by ubuntu, and it doesnt show up in iwconfig, even when plugged in
[07:26] <korhalf> okay well im curious as to where to find the damn cURL library package
[07:26] <korhalf> god forbid
[07:26] <Urthmover> freeNX  is anyone using it on breezy?
[07:26] <vilcimoraes> oi
[07:26] <karlan> korhalf, nope, cant fint it still
[07:26] <korhalf> karlan, you could always pipe it to grep
[07:26] <yoav> hey, can anyone help me out with installation
[07:26] <_jason> Urthmover, yes
[07:26] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: please place lspci -v into the pastebin
[07:26] <Urthmover> I can't seem to find docs that actually work
[07:26] <korhalf> karlan, make sure u have universe for apt
[07:26] <karlan> korhalf, you lost me there :p
[07:26] <Urthmover> well jason
[07:26] <vilcimoraes> teste
[07:26] <GoRi||a> ok
[07:26] <korhalf> karlan, go to synpatic
[07:26] <Urthmover> so I added a working deb to my sources....
[07:26] <self_> ok...wireless cards in ubuntu
[07:27] <karlan> korhalf, yeah, im there
[07:27] <Urthmover> how do I get the right compiler?
[07:27] <korhalf> karlan, you have to enable multiverse
[07:27] <vilcimoraes> alguem
[07:27] <korhalf> do you know what i mean?
[07:27] <korhalf> !nonfreeformat
[07:27] <ubotu> korhalf: What?
[07:27] <self_> how do you use them?
[07:27] <korhalf> !mplayer
[07:27] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:27] <korhalf> !wmv
[07:27] <_jason> korhalf, 'apt-cache search --names-only libcurl' ?
[07:27] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:27] <naddar> hi all,
[07:28] <naddar> anyone can help me
[07:28] <RWG> yoav
[07:28] <naddar> why ubuntu diddent ask root password
[07:28] <robotgeek> naddar: sure, ask away
[07:28] <karlan> korhalf, where do i do that? i am using the swedish version, and cant find anything similar to multiverse
[07:28] <korhalf> naddar,
[07:28] <naddar> how can i set it
[07:28] <korhalf> !root
[07:28] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell naddar about sudo
[07:28] <yoav> hey RWG
[07:28] <_jason> we should just ask sudo to the topic
[07:28] <_jason> add even
[07:28] <robotgeek> yeah
[07:28] <naddar> damn in irssi i forget to scroll between pages
[07:28] <korhalf> karlan, i forgot hwo to do it
[07:28] <naddar> crtl shift?
[07:29] <robotgeek> naddar: page up
[07:29] <korhalf> karlan, and i cant seem to open synaptic
[07:29] <karlan> korhalf, okay :\
[07:29] <self_> the sudo command...does it let you use the cammand as root?
[07:29] <korhalf> karlan, yea sorry man, go to settings or something, and change the sources to be multiverse
[07:29] <self_> command even
[07:29] <karlan> will do :9
[07:29] <korhalf> karlan, honestly thats all i can tell you, or i can paste you my sources.list
[07:29] <karlan> will try, even :)
[07:29] <korhalf> karlan, yeh ill do that
[07:29] <jsz> yes
[07:29] <naddar> i get a pm message but i can't go to tab 4 how
[07:29] <jsz> superuser do
[07:29] <_jason> !sudo
[07:29] <naddar> ok alt :)
[07:30] <jsz> BUT, if you REALLY need to set a root password, open a root terminal and type passwd
[07:30] <yoav> HELP anyone?
[07:30] <jsz> yoav, whats the problem?
[07:30] <_jason> yoav, with?
[07:30] <UncleD> What would cause this error? rndc: connect failed: connection refused when I try to run /etc/init.d/bind9 reload
[07:31] <naddar> ok just sudo is the new command if i understand good?
[07:31] <korhalf> karlan, pm
[07:31] <UncleD> noddar, yea
[07:31] <naddar> ok, thanks
[07:31] <_jason> naddar, right, if you want to 'echo hi' with sudo you do: 'sudo echo hi'
[07:31] <karlan> korhalf, :)
[07:31] <korhalf> karlan, :D
[07:31] <robotgeek> _jsz: you don't really need to be root, why do you think you need root?
[07:31] <yoav> thanks jsz. i have installation problems. after the stage where i input my user name the installation get stuck on "setting primary installation repository". i managed to get to the shell terminal, but i dont know how to go on from there
[07:32] <self_> do all of you use ubuntu?
[07:32] <coNP> of course not :)
[07:32] <Kyral> yes
[07:32] <Kyral> I do at least
[07:32] <yoav> _jason, scroll up, see if you know this problem
[07:32] <Kyral> well I more like use "MetaUbuntu"
[07:32] <Urthmover> umm considering this IS the ubuntu channel  I'm guess most
[07:32] <plasmoduck> yoav, is that for the apt sources?
[07:32] <Kyral> In that my system is a mismash from all over the Repos
[07:32] <self_> l have tried a lot of linux distros...normaly suse
[07:32] <yoav> plasmoduck, i think its the next screen
[07:32] <naddar> so base-config is also gone?
[07:33] <_jason> yoav, what's the problem?
[07:33] <naddar> robotgeek: if i type base-config i get error also premision denied
[07:33] <plasmoduck> _jason, he has already said, scroll up.
[07:33] <robotgeek> naddar: sudo base-config
[07:34] <plasmoduck> yoav, so it updates sources?
[07:34] <karlan> korhalf, found it, thx alot :)
[07:34] <self_> tried knoppix... but you do not gain anything over DSL...i now use ubuntu
[07:34] <vroem> Hi. If I want to setup a desktop with an apache server, what advantages will I get when I use ubuntu-server?
[07:34] <_jason> yoav, lol I didn't see that, I scrolled too much and found you saying 'installation problem', thanks plasmoduck :)
[07:34] <vroem> Is is worth it?
[07:34] <naddar> robotgeek:  ok i got it thanks.
[07:34] <plasmoduck> vroem, Ubuntu server mode is just console, it has no window manager
[07:34] <yoav> plasmoduck, _jason, jsz, last time i tried to install i exited installation before the stage it gets stuck right before putting in a password, then it rebooted went into a another installation phase and it worked fine, but not perfect, so i tried to do it right this time but it get stuck on "setting primamry installation repository"
[07:35] <yggdrasil> eobanb you know what else  is kind of wierd ...is that im using bootx1.3 and at home (im at awork) i was getting all the dmesg screen like as it was booting and i cant seem to get it ehre so i have no vterminals. ive tried clickign the no video driver box but it wont do it
[07:35] <plasmoduck> thus, it is more lightweight and resource friendly
[07:35] <naddar> anyone got negative experience with ubuntu 64 bits?
[07:35] <seth_k|lappy> robotgeek, Ubuntu CC Meeting at 20:00 UTC ;)
[07:35] <eobanb> yggdrasil, well that sucks.
[07:35] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: dec 20th, hmm...that's close
[07:35] <yggdrasil> strange huh what version of bootx should i be on ?
[07:36] <plasmoduck> yoav, so it just hangs there?
[07:36] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: damn, i think it's today :)
[07:36] <seth_k|lappy> robotgeek, um, that's today sir, in an hour and a half
[07:36] <jan_> !java
[07:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:36] <yoav> plasmoduck, yea, stuck on 255
[07:36] <yoav> 35%
[07:36] <dewdude> well...time to work on this box some more
[07:36] <yoav> 25% lol
[07:36] <JDahl> naddar, I had to compile a few things on my own, but not because of Ubuntu, rather because 64bit development is lagging behind 32bit
[07:36] <robotgeek> seth_k|lappy: hmm, crazy. i might actually be away.
[07:36] <karlan> korhalf, doesnt seem to work thou :\
[07:36] <vroem> plasmoduck, thanks, good to know :-)
[07:36] <plasmoduck> and you have left it for like 30 minutes?
[07:36] <JDahl> naddar, but in general I am quite happy with 64bit Ubuntu
[07:37] <plasmoduck> vroem, I use Ubuntu server on my server
[07:37] <naddar> JDahl:  thanks
[07:37] <plasmoduck> and Debian on my workstation
[07:37] <naddar> damn my screen
[07:37] <plasmoduck> NetBSD for work
[07:37] <korhalf> karlan, why not?
[07:37] <naddar> can't i change settings in base-config for my monitor
[07:37] <korhalf> karlan, did you install mplayer first like i told you to
[07:37] <yoav> plasmoduck, i did ctrl alt f2, but i dont really know how to work from there
[07:37] <naddar> or do i have to edit it in xorg.conf?
[07:37] <karlan> korhalf, yeah, synaptic added that automaticly
[07:37] <karlan> hold on
[07:37] <karlan> will try different approach :p
[07:38] <plasmoduck> yoav, I sergest install in server mode
[07:38] <karlan> ubuntu is really great btw :)
[07:38] <GoRi||a> ok, i cant get you the output of lspci right now, but i can tell you that the wireless adapter doesnt show up in it..but...when i look in the device manager, it does show up, but as "unknown device"
[07:39] <plasmoduck> then "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment (#) the lines for the other sources
[07:39] <robotgeek> GoRi||a: hm,m i gotta run away now, sorry
[07:39] <jan_> hi, is java installed as default on breezy? when i need the runtime enviroment (f.eks for firefox) will "apt-get install j2re1.4" do the trick?
[07:39] <GoRi||a> its ok
[07:39] <yggdrasil> is bootx 1.1.3 standard for mac os 9.1
[07:39] <yggdrasil> or .2 or so
[07:39] <korhalf> karlan, i know :)
[07:39] <plasmoduck> then "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade" then "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[07:39] <vroem> plasmoduck, well I'm sure it does a fine job. But I need a server with a desktop and a vnc server.
[07:39] <Shado-x> euhm guy's can someone connect to msn with gaim?
[07:39] <plasmoduck> yoav, what window manager do you like?
[07:40] <yoav> plasmoduck, my computer(and linux) knowledge is very basic, i'm not sure i'll handle it if its command line. i allready managed installing before by cheating a little bit, but i think it got me some trouble
[07:40] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, the MSN servers are down
[07:40] <karlan> korhalf, well, when i manually try to start mplayer, the player wont appear
[07:40] <plasmoduck> vroem, just add the packages you need
[07:40] <karlan> nothing happens
[07:40] <plasmoduck> ^^^
[07:40] <plasmoduck> yoav, why do you need a desktop for a server?
[07:40] <plasmoduck> just use ssh
[07:40] <GoRi||a> ok, i have a wireless 802.11b/g usb adapter, model TEW-424UB, and i need to compile the driver (zd1211). It says i need the kernel source code, but i cant find it anywhere
[07:40] <yoav> plasmoduck, i'm not sure what you're asking, but i guess gnome is the only one i used
[07:40] <GoRi||a> 2.6.12-9-386
[07:41] <_jason> karlan, did you setup mplayer to use esd?
[07:41] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, they were down all morning, they just came back up this moment.
[07:41] <yoav> plasmoduck, i'm a noob, i'm no pro, i dont know how to work from a terminal to weel yet
[07:41] <selinium> arnducky, Are you about?
[07:41] <vroem> I'm very skilled in ssh and screen but I need to use a remote desktop for certain applications
[07:41] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, hmm strange it seems that webmessenger works :s
[07:41] <plasmoduck> yoav, you might want to check out blackbox, it's pretty nice
[07:41] <GoRi||a> i have the headers installed (those were on the ubuntu disc)
[07:41] <jordo23> Does anyone know if when installing a gigabit ethernet adapter if you have to do anything to get it to go gigabit, or will it automatically detect the fastest speed?
[07:42] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, nope still no connection
[07:42] <plasmoduck> yoav, do what I said, reboot the box and install in server mode, it's a custom install and I will help you step by step
[07:42] <yoav> plasmoduck, thats a linux os? i thought ubuntu is good for linux noobs
[07:42] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, I kept getting a "msn servers are not available at this time" until about 2 minutes ago.
[07:42] <plasmoduck> yoav, it's alot easy for things not to go wrong
[07:42] <letoto> Can someone give me an irc handle or email address of a human sysadmin of the ubuntu systems?
[07:42] <naddar> can anyone help me please
[07:42] <karlan> _jason, i didnt setup anything.didnt get any setupscreen either. the packages i installed trough synaptics: mozilla-mplayer, mplayer-586, mplayer-686
[07:42] <plasmoduck> yoav, no, blackbox is a window manager
[07:42] <yggdrasil> ok cool i change d the macos res to 640 480 256 and i got my boot stuff back in or der
[07:42] <seth_k|lappy> letoto, that'd be elmo
[07:42] <naddar> i have a medion md30399pj monitor and i like to have the settings for it
[07:42] <letoto> whois elmo
[07:43] <naddar> but notting go's to surf on the net
[07:43] <letoto> *** elmo is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(James Troup)
[07:43] <jordo23> lol
[07:43] <plasmoduck> blackbox, fluxbox, gnome, kde, window maker, lightstep, xfce, icewm ect ect
[07:43] <_jason> ubotu, tell karlan about mplayer
[07:43] <letoto> seth_k: that elmo?
[07:43] <GoRi||a> ok, lemme rephrase. where can i get the kernel source code for breezybadger????
[07:43] <plasmoduck> take you're pick
[07:43] <_jason> karlan, what exactly are you running?
[07:43] <seth_k|lappy> letoto, yes
[07:43] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, hmm you could have right, i'm getting closer to a connection
[07:43] <brizio> hi everybody!!
[07:43] <seth_k|lappy> letoto, he's SUPER busy though, so only bug him if you have a really good reason
[07:43] <plasmoduck> you can install more then one and change which one you use at any time with great ease.
[07:43] <vroem> yoav, mac os x is for noobs too, but it's also heaven for programmers
[07:43] <brizio> some1 can help me?!
[07:43] <yoav> plasmoduck, so i'm not sure what a window manager is, and how it realtes to my problem
[07:43] <naddar> hmmm i reinstall it :)
[07:43] <naddar> laters
[07:44] <misfit_toy> hmm, starting yesterday my mouse demands a second click to select anything, a file, an icon, anything anywhere, on breezy, nothing has been installed lately either.
[07:44] <plasmoduck> yoav, a window manager is the gui, what you use the mouse in an view images
[07:44] <jazzido> Hello everyone...I'm having a weird problem with emacs? On startups
[07:44] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, nope can't connect
[07:44] <plasmoduck> do what I said, reboot, install in server mode
[07:44] <jazzido> oops
[07:44] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, I'm on
[07:44] <plasmoduck> and talk to me here
[07:44] <yoav> vroem, i'm just trying to get it to work at the moment
[07:44] <jazzido> Hello everyone...I'm having a weird problem with emacs? On startup it says "Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct"
[07:44] <jazzido> so
[07:44] <Ophiocus> is there anything like a voice to pc command software?
[07:44] <jan_> how do one change the owner of a file?
[07:45] <Kyral> chown
[07:45] <karlan> _jason, a pentium 4
[07:45] <jasonjdp> my onboard audio doesnt work.  both oss and ALSA say they support it though.  why didnt ubuntu set it up right? can i fix that fact that ubuntu doenst appear to see my onboard audio?
[07:45] <Shado-x> misfit_toy: it fails by "sending cookie"
[07:45] <_jason> karlan, i meant what command
[07:45] <karlan> :P
[07:45] <jazzido> Seems my xorg.conf got messed up. Any suggestion?
[07:45] <djm62> Ophiocus: sphinx is a basic one...IBM had some software, but I doubt you could get it to work on a modern distro, even if you could find a copy
[07:45] <_jason> karlan, and do you get any ouput from it
[07:45] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, that's what mine was doing for the last 4 hours
[07:45] <brizio> someone can tell me how to use wine?
[07:45] <jono> hi all
[07:45] <yoav> plasmoduck, i thought thats the gnome/kde. can you in a side chat with me? i'll be running between 2 machines and i wont be able to follow the lines here
[07:45] <jono>  is there a way to get a specific card to use a specific module, so the dvb card uses tveeprom and pvr-350 card uses the tveeprom-ivtv module?
[07:45] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, restart gaim
[07:45] <djm62> jasonjdp: is it muted? (in hardware or software)
[07:46] <plasmoduck> brizio, don't use wine
[07:46] <karlan> _jason, i used the built in Synaptics, marked the packages for installation, applied, and the packages installed. nothing else happend after that
[07:46] <GoRi||a> anybody?? where can i find kernel source code for breezy badger???
[07:46] <plasmoduck> there is you're answer.
[07:46] <Shado-x> misfit_toy, ok, woooow i'm on  thnxxx
[07:46] <karlan> the mplayer icon is displayed in the program menu
[07:46] <misfit_toy> Shado-x, np
[07:46] <_jason> karlan, so what's wrong
[07:46] <jasonjdp> doesnt show up anywhere.  ubuntu thinks there are no sound cards... (well, its onboard audio, but still...)
[07:46] <brizio> ok
[07:46] <karlan> _jason, i cant start the program, nothing happens when i press it :)
[07:46] <djm62> brizio: from the shell, type "wine windowsprogram.exe"
[07:47] <_jason> karlan, try 'gmplayer' in a  terminal and see if you get any clues
[07:47] <plasmoduck> yoav, sure, come to #ausphreak
[07:47] <hooooyt> :|
[07:47] <djm62> :(
[07:47] <karlan> _jason, segmentationerror (translated from swedish)
[07:48] <_jason> karlan, try mplayer /path/to/videofile
[07:49] <self_> <<is just reading ...and learning
[07:50] <jasonjdp> if ubuntu didnt and doesnt see my onboard audio, but oss and ALSA both support it, how do i fix it?
[07:50] <karlan> _jason, same errormsg
[07:50] <Urthmover> maybe put in an AOL disk ...that fixes everything
[07:51] <djm62> carol vorderman is going nowhere near my computer
[07:51] <self_> lol.....AOL
[07:51] <_jason> karlan, get rid of 586 and try the 386 package
[07:51] <karlan> _jason, ok, will do :)
[07:51] <djm62> jasonjdp: when you go to Applications->Sound and Video->Volume control, there's no card, and no option in the menu to change card?
[07:52] <Shado-x> omg darkwater is kinda freaky :s
[07:52] <Ue2> anyone know how can i play counter strike?
[07:52] <jasonjdp> correct djm62
[07:52] <djm62> jasonjdp: what card is it?
[07:52] <yggdrasil> gonna try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now that the video seems stableiszed in text terminal
[07:52] <Urthmover> I use a mouse and keyboard Ue2
[07:52] <self_> Gnomefreek?
[07:52] <_> Ue2: try cvscedega
[07:52] <karlan> _jason, same error again :C
[07:52] <selinium> jasonjdp, you could try installing bum    sudo apt-get install bum  and make sure that alsa is the start up protocol. Then reboot and try again
[07:53] <Urthmover> I think CS has linux source Ue2
[07:53] <_jason> karlan, okay, you use esd right?
[07:53] <jasonjdp> a7v333 onboard audio.  i checked the bios and i dont have it turned off.  its  C-Media CMI8738
[07:53] <selinium> jasonjdp, Boot Up Manager
[07:53] <self_> does serpentine have all the functions of K3b?
[07:53] <karlan> _jason, not sure, 1 sec
[07:53] <Ue2> Urthmover, steam have linux source u mean?
[07:53] <UncleD> What would cause this error? rndc: connect failed: connection refused when I try to run /etc/init.d/bind9 reload
[07:53] <sled> hi
[07:54] <karlan> _jason, cant find anything about esd
[07:54] <Urthmover> lol
[07:54] <_jason> karlan, actually, just do 'mplayer -ao null /path/to/videofile'
[07:55] <karlan> _jason, same old, same old
[07:55] <karlan> :C
[07:55] <_jason> karlan, what if you just type 'mplayer' grr what's going on
[07:55] <karlan> _jason, again, segmentationerror
[07:55] <misfit_toy> hmm, starting yesterday my mouse demands a second click to select anything, a file, an icon, anything anywhere, on breezy, nothing has been installed lately either.
[07:56] <_jason> karlan, okay let me search the forums
[07:56] <kemik> where would a network connection be "mounted" ? (using sftp and "connect to server" ? )
[07:56] <karlan> _jason, ok =)
[07:56] <kemik> mounted as in the mountpoint in my local FS...
[07:56] <djm62> kemik: I don't think it would be
[07:56] <djm62> kemik: it's not done at the kernel level
[07:57] <djm62> kemik: it will be in your Places menu (as you probably know)
[07:57] <kemik> djm62:  yeah i can find it there... but id like to accss it thru /media/remotemount
[07:57] <viller> where can one download ubuntu's source-code?
[07:58] <_jason> karlan, lol i see a lot of threads with the same error but no solutions yet
[07:58] <djm62> kemik: I don't recall seeing a mainstream project to do that that way :-/
[07:58] <kemik> hurghgg
[07:58] <kemik> djm62:  so i cant access it thru a terminalwindow ?
[07:59] <karlan> _jason, that doesnt sound good :\
[07:59] <viller> where can one download ubuntu's source-code?
[07:59] <JFlash> hi
[07:59] <djm62> kemik: you can use scp as a one-liner to move things from local to remote and back
[07:59] <viller> hi
[07:59] <Shado-x> karlan, are your sources correct? using the correct version?
[07:59] <djm62> kemik: if you have ssh-keys enabled, it's pretty damn seamless
[07:59] <JFlash> hi guys. i just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to tweak it's interface
[07:59] <_jason> karlan, people are saying to remove the nvidia drivers but that makes no sense since I run mplayer fine with it
[08:00] <kemik> mmh.. but . oh well
[08:00] <kemik> nvm then ty
[08:00] <benplaut> can someone pastebin me a dapper sources.list? the installation kept failing at that step, so i skipped it
[08:00] <hardbop200> JFlash:  what do you need to do?
[08:00] <JFlash> but i'm very confused by the new namings and concepts i bump into
[08:00] <Shado-x> karlan, got the same mistake yesterday cuz i was using sources for 5.1 and i was running 5.04
[08:00] <GoRi||a> okok...which package gives me my kernel source?? linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6_0.62ubuntu2.tar.gz or linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12.orig.tar.gz
[08:00] <karlan> _jason, i tried to install the nvidia drivers this morning, but it wasnt successfull
[08:00] <hardbop200> that's understandable
[08:00] <GoRi||a> all i need is kernel source
[08:00] <rosen> _jason, I did aswell but today I switched to another driver and now my nexuiz is actually playable !
[08:00] <JFlash> i'd like to know if i'm running metacity or not
[08:00] <JFlash> cz i'm looking at linuxshot.org
[08:00] <Ave_> hey, i just tried to install ubuntu and it gets stuck in booting the kernel stage, any info why this happens?
[08:01] <hardbop200> JFlash:  you probably are; you might try ps ax |grep metacity to see for sure
[08:01] <karlan> Shado-x, i am using 5.1 as far as i know
[08:01] <Shado-x> karlan, using the correct sources?
[08:01] <JFlash> and i see there are categories like metacityh an fvmn and i dont know what am i running or what i can install / switch to
[08:01] <_jason> karlan, did you upgrade or fresh install?
[08:01] <karlan> _jason, nvidia drivers?
[08:01] <djm62> kemik: you want something like http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/30 I think
[08:01] <_jason> karlan, ubuntu
[08:01] <benplaut> anyone here on dapper?
[08:01] <djm62> kemik: but it looks like hassle
[08:01] <karlan> _jason, fresh
[08:01] <dewdude> i'm thinking about swapping my ATI card for the much better supported Nvidia...is there anything i should change in my xorg aside taking the ATI driver off so when i reboot, things don't totally b0rk out on me?
[08:01] <hardbop200> JFlash - you are running gnome as a desktop, metacity is the window manager
[08:02] <hardbop200> probably ;)
[08:03] <_jason> karlan, maybe you can try to install the drivers first and go again
[08:03] <viller> where can one download ubuntu's sourcecode?
[08:03] <Ave_> hey, i just tried to install ubuntu and it gets stuck in booting the kernel stage, any info why this happens?
[08:03] <self_> viller you mean the iso?
[08:03] <misfit_toy> !source
[08:03] <ubotu> from memory, source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.
[08:03] <karlan> _jason, okay, that sounds like a good idea. apart from my total failure with installing the nvidia drivers :D
[08:03] <_jason> karlan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:03] <misfit_toy> !kernel-headers
[08:03] <karlan> _jason, yeah,followed that one
[08:03] <ubotu> misfit_toy: I give up, what is it?
[08:03] <viller> self_ I don't know if it contains the source code
[08:03] <JFlash> hardbop200: where do i type that ? terminal?
[08:03] <karlan> but didnt get the nvidia logo to appear
[08:03] <JFlash> do i have the option to switch to fvwm as my windows manager?
[08:03] <_jason> karlan, what went wrong?
[08:04] <mrkoje> karlan,  if you are having trouble I think you could try easybreezy
[08:04] <mrkoje> ubotu tell karlan about easybreezy
[08:04] <misfit_toy> !kernel-source
[08:04] <ubotu> misfit_toy: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:04] <self_> ah i see...
[08:05] <misfit_toy> hmm, starting yesterday my mouse demands a second click to select anything, a file, an icon, anything anywhere, on breezy, nothing has been installed lately either.
[08:05] <karlan> _jason, first off, i tried the newer driver, and nothing happend. same old graphics etc. then i tried the legacy (having a geforce 3) and then the xserver failed, so i had to use the backup. tried the newer one again, and nothing happend there either
[08:05] <navarone> JFlash, if you have the window manager installed you can select it when you log in...click session and choose the one you want to use
[08:05] <karlan> thx mrkoje
[08:05] <hardbop200> JFlash, yes, type that in a terminal.  If it doesn't work, try putting sudo in front of it, but be careful with that!
[08:05] <Yawgmoth> e aew!
[08:05] <hardbop200> :)
[08:05] <SQlvpapir> oh yeah i am going to have the expirience of ubuntu within a hour or something :)
[08:05] <_jason> karlan, you did 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[08:06] <twosticks> hey all, looking for some help with apache2/mod_perl/cpan on breezy
[08:06] <self_> viller try here..http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-14756.html
[08:06] <GoRi||a> wow...
[08:06] <JFlash> also, i keep getting drawing errors in breeze badger, like straight lines that show up across the screen in various directions. is this expected in breeze badger?
[08:06] <GoRi||a> i ask the same question
[08:06] <GoRi||a> and no one answered
[08:06] <karlan> _jason,  yepp, followed the guide exactly
[08:06] <Yawgmoth> como instalo uma placa d som?estou comeando usar linux..
[08:07] <aquarius> I've just upgraded a machine to Breezy using the CD (it's not connected to the net). Gnumeric is not installed. When I try and install Gnumeric it says that it will remove gdm and nautilus! That's not good. Why's it doing that?
[08:07] <Eraamion> Evening.
[08:07] <djm62> !es
[08:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:07] <dewdude> maybe it has to get rid of them to update gnymeric
[08:08] <dewdude> gnumeric
[08:08] <_jason> karlan grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:08] <karlan> driver "nvidia"
[08:08] <aquarius> So if I install gnumeric and it removes gdm and nautilus, I'll then be able to reinstall gdm and nautilus?
[08:08] <karlan> i setup that ony myself after the third attempt :)
[08:08] <naddar> ok nice ubuntu works fine now :)
[08:09] <navarone> kalran what card do you have?
[08:09] <karlan> from nv -> nvidia
[08:09] <karlan> navarone, geforce 3 ti 200/300 something
[08:09] <navarone> karlan* ^
[08:09] <spudse> hello, what is wrong in this query --> sqlite_query($db, "INSERT INTO links VALUES ('$value[fix] ','$value[org] ')"); ?
[08:09] <yggdrasil> eobanb ok making some sence of it now
[08:09] <spudse> it gives me "Warning:  sqlite_query() expects parameter 1 to be resource, string given in (...) "
[08:09] <navarone> karlan do you just install drivers or has something gone wrong since installing?
[08:10] <spudse> sry wrong channel
[08:10] <self_> viller?
[08:10] <djm62> it's impolite and has no context
[08:10] <viller> self_?
[08:10] <karlan> navarone, what do you mean? i did the installationprocess from the wiki at ubuntu
[08:10] <Talisker>  how do I check the size of a directory and all of it contains?
[08:10] <e2k> um, what did I just do with sudo mv /usr/local/man /usr/local/man.backup ? did i make a directory a file? :S
[08:10] <self_> try here...http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-14756.html
[08:10] <karlan> e2k, you moved the directory if i am right
[08:11] <navarone> karlan I will paste my video section from xorg.conf at pastebin and you can take a look...I have a Asus Geforce 3 v8200...brb
[08:11] <self_> some people are asking the same question
[08:11] <_> does msn work?
[08:11] <yggdrasil> eobanb basicly macos defaulted the prebootx screen resoultion to 1024 and it was screwing it up after i lanched
[08:11] <self_> you may get a link
[08:11] <karlan> navarone, that would be great :) thx
[08:11] <Delvien> is gaim 2.0  available via Apt-get ??
[08:11] <_jason> Delvien, no
[08:11] <_> Delvien: yes
[08:11] <VersusGod> the compile and install for gaim was quick and easy
[08:11] <_> i thought it was in backport
[08:11] <naddar> is there a good server where i can find w32codecs mplayer ect
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell naddar about mplayer
[08:12] <eobanb> yggdrasil, ah i see
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell naddar about w32codecs
[08:12] <_jason> karlan, I don't know then, try again later when different people are on
[08:12] <Delvien> which is it ?
[08:12] <yggdrasil> eobanb and x and this card wont go over 8 bit depth
[08:12] <_jason> Delvien, it's not
[08:13] <karlan> _jason, ok, thx for the help anyway =)
[08:13] <e2k> karlan, ls -la gives lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    9 2005-12-09 18:06 man.backup -> share/man
[08:13] <e2k> and there's no share/man :O
[08:13] <karlan> e2k, did you type sudo mv /usr/local/man /usr/local/man.backup ?
[08:13] <e2k> karlan, yup
[08:14] <karlan> try to revert the command. sudo mv /usr/local/man.backup /usr/local/man
[08:14] <karlan> im not really sure, but that is what i would do :)
[08:14] <navarone> karlan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5961 <-- mind you it may not be exactly the settings you require...but may give you a clue
[08:14] <karlan> navarone, thx =)
[08:14] <Delvien> ugh my CDrom drive isnt automounting, what is the command to mount the cd?
[08:16] <e2k> karlan, I did that, but now the symlink just moved inside man :S
[08:16] <naddar> before i knew a server marilat or something, does it works in ubuntu also
[08:16] <navarone> Delvien go to System/Admin/Device Manager and find your drive...then click Advanced in the drives properies and make sure automount is set to true
[08:16] <karlan> e2k, ok, then i have no clue. kinda new at this to :)
[08:16] <benplaut> aaaahhhhh
[08:16] <karlan> navarone, i have done some changes, will just restart x
[08:16] <karlan> brb
[08:16] <e2k> I wonder what i did :>
[08:16] <MonsieurBon> is musicbrainz already included in ubuntu somewhere?
[08:16] <benplaut> feals so good to be on the bleeding edge again :)
[08:17] <benplaut> i'd forgotten what it's like :)
[08:17] <GoRi||a> ok, i think im really close to gettin it...ive got a wireless card in my laptop, and just installed the driver, and activated it(modprobe) but it still dooesnt show up under ifconfig -a or iwconfig
[08:17] <GoRi||a> helppp!!!
[08:17] <GoRi||a> whatd i do wrong??
[08:18] <_> in ubuntu?;
[08:18] <naddar> in apt-cache i dont find any of mplayer :(
[08:18] <Delvien> navarone i dont have "Device manager " in there, i just recently switched back from KDE after a long time, and KDE had messed with my menus, is there a way to run it from terminal?
[08:18] <_> naddar: include multiver and universe repos
[08:18] <selinium> nadder:   apt-cache search mplayer
[08:18] <navarone> Delvien...I do not use kde so i don't know the menus...but I am sure there is as imilar menu item in kde...poke around
[08:19] <naddar> selinium:  i did
[08:19] <Delvien> navarone no no im in gnome right now,
[08:19] <_> naddar: goto synaptics and include multiver and universe repositories
[08:19] <naddar> thats why i asked if anyone have a good source where i can add it to my sources.list
[08:19] <selinium> And you got nothing?
[08:19] <MonsieurBon> do the new ati binary drivers support software suspend?
[08:20] <_> naddar: mplayer is in the repository
[08:20] <selinium> naddar: Have you got standard repos?
[08:20] <_> Package Versions: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy) / 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20051205-0ubuntu7 (dapper)
[08:20] <naddar> selinium: hmmm how i check that
[08:20] <_> Description: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
 Ubuntu Package mplayer (graphics) [08:20] <selinium> naddar: have you changed    /etc/apt/sources.list     before?
[08:21] <naddar> yeah on debian,
[08:21] <Delvien> Anyone know how to run "DEVICE MANAGER" from terminal?
[08:21] <naddar> manualy i can do it
[08:21] <selinium> naddar: pm?
[08:21] <pm> yes?
[08:21] <_> naddar: are u running KDE or gnome?
[08:21] <pm> :)
[08:21] <naddar> gnome
[08:21] <selinium> there is always one! :)
[08:21] <JFlash> i'm trying to install Beep Media Player. i have downloaded a .deb  file, but my system wont open it. what should I do?
[08:21] <aquarius> delvien: hal-device-manager, I think
[08:21] <selinium> naddar, ok for a prvate message...
[08:21] <_> naddar: go open "Synaptics Package Manager"
[08:22] <naddar> selinium: yeah
[08:22] <djm62> JFlash: from a terminal, sudo dpkg -i bmp... (whatever the filename is)
[08:22] <Delvien> aquarius ah thanks
[08:22] <aquarius> JFlash: you can install Beep from Synaptic Package Manager if you'd prefer to do it that way.
[08:22] <Delvien> navarone ah my automount feature was uninstalled for some reason
[08:22] <djm62> JFlash: on a higher level, why have you downloaded a .deb file? couldn't you get it from the package manager?
[08:23] <JFlash> thanks boys but .... i dont have a clue what package manager is . lol
[08:23] <navarone> delvien try "hal-device-manager"
[08:23] <JFlash> i just dropped into the linux world :(
[08:23] <djm62> JFlash: not necessarily boys ;) System->Administration->Add Packages
[08:24] <djm62> JFlash: is designed so you never have to know what a .deb is, nor how to install one
[08:24] <karlan> navarone, are you there?
[08:24] <navarone> karlan?
[08:24] <karlan> that didnt go well at all :)
[08:24] <JFlash> ok let me try that
[08:24] <navarone> what did you change?
[08:24] <selinium> _ he is running 64bit, thats why!
[08:24] <djm62> JFlash: beg pardon, System->Administration->Add Applications
[08:25] <karlan> navarone, i could have sweared that i had a agp-card, so i added the agpline. the x crashed, and i had to alter it back, and use "NV" instead now.
[08:25] <SirKillalot> do you know a tool like frontpage for linux?
[08:25] <olipaul> hi all. i'm struggling with getting my wirless network card to connect to my router.
[08:25] <Kyral> Frontpage is evil
[08:25] <aquarius> SirKillalot: Nvu
[08:25] <SirKillalot> Kyral, that's why I ask if you know something elese
[08:25] <SirKillalot> -e
[08:25] <yggdrasil> here it is gents
[08:25] <yggdrasil> got it up and in here
[08:25] <olipaul> i can scan and see the essid name, but when i use the network gui to connect to it, there's no connection
[08:25] <yggdrasil> starmax 3000/180
[08:25] <navarone> karlan...if you put in the PCI thingy you may get errors cos your card may be in different slot in computer
[08:25] <padraig> is there any particular log that will help me diagnose a problem with cups not running?
[08:26] <olipaul> any ideas on configuring ubuntu for wireless?
[08:26] <Kyral> SirKillalot: Sorry its my attitude towards WYSIWYG editiors, but I have heard that Nvu puts out clean code
[08:26] <karlan> navarone, yeah, but it is a agp-card. but it says something about a pci-slot?
[08:26] <trappist> olipaul: try running dhclient
[08:26] <self_> ah ... i have problems with wireless
[08:26] <Papageno> Why won't amaroK install? It has no problems getting other packages from the repositories. About amaroK , though, it keeps saying it can't find some package or whatnot.
[08:26] <karlan> navarone, BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[08:27] <navarone> navarone...yeah mine is agp as well...but it says pci slot...I think that is normal...however the slots specified in my xorg.conf may not be accurate for your card and it's slot
[08:27] <karlan> navarone, yeah, but i didnt alter that one
[08:28] <navarone> karlan ok
[08:28] <navarone> karlan what errors are you getting?
[08:28] <karlan> navarone, do you have the link to the pastebin again?
[08:28] <navarone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5961
[08:28] <karlan> navarone, i didnt get any errors, just a screen with upper black, and the lower screen was white
[08:28] <flodine> does anyone use xset fot there fonts
[08:28] <karlan> quite nice actually, sort of a future screensaver ;D
[08:29] <navarone> karlan have you specified refresh and resolution rates?
[08:29] <flodine> does anyone use xset for there fonts
[08:29] <karlan> navarone, hold on, will paste my xorg
[08:29] <karlan> navarone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5962
[08:30] <karlan> not much for options there :)
[08:31] <flodine> can some one tell does storing your font in .font work
[08:32] <navarone> karlan...in xorg.conf the section "Module" are "Glcore" and "glx" uncommented?
[08:32] <navarone> karlan> uncommented = no "#"
[08:33] <karlan> navarone, nope, not uncommented
[08:33] <navarone> karlan so they have # in front?
[08:33] <karlan> oh, no # in front :)
[08:33] <navarone> hmm
[08:33] <djm62> flodine: yes it does
[08:34] <flodine> ok djm62 will i have to use xset
[08:34] <djm62> flodine: go to font:/// in nautilus to see the fonts in .font
[08:34] <self_> anyone running Dapper Drake?
[08:34] <navarone> well...the "nv" should be "nvidia" but changing that gives problems?
[08:34] <djm62> flodine: what, on a high level, are you trying to achieve?
[08:34] <JFlash> djm62, are you still there?
[08:34] <djm62> JFlash: yes
[08:35] <JFlash> i added it to synaptic but ...
[08:35] <djm62> JFlash: and applied changes?
[08:35] <JFlash> i think it will install the latest unstable version?  :(
[08:35] <djm62> JFlash: not on breezy it won't
[08:35] <JFlash> there are several versions in the repository, how do i pick witch one it will isntall?
[08:36] <flodine> djm62 just wondering if i add artwiz font to the .font folder do i have to use xset fp+
[08:36] <JFlash> it says 0.12.9 + cvs
[08:36] <djm62> flodine: not for gnome stuff
[08:36] <self_> <<is running Breezy..wondered if dapper is stable?
[08:36] <padraig> ok, I am missing two files that cups needs to talk to (/etc/cups/printers.conf and /etc/cups/classes.conf ) (or so /var/log/cups/error_log tells me) any suggestions?
[08:36] <karlan> navarone, it worked before, but when i changed it back, i got the black/white screen. will try again, hold on
[08:36] <flodine> djm62 to set them for a terminal
[08:36] <trappist> self_: by definition, no
[08:36] <robotgeek> self_: no
[08:37] <JFlash> djm62,  is that the version you are using?
[08:37] <self_> ah so no point in upgrade then
[08:37] <soundray> djm62, on a high level, what do you have to do to use artwiz fonts in Gnome, apart from installing xfonts-artwiz?
[08:37] <robotgeek> self_: not yet, unless you want to help fix bugs
[08:37] <karlan> navarone, im gona get online with my laptop so i dont have to quit irc everytime to restart x etc. 2 secs
[08:37] <self_> k
[08:38] <djm62> JFlash: I like rhythmbox myself...but the version in synaptic has been quality controlled and will be safe to install, if you're using a supported distro
[08:38] <navarone> karlan did you install drivers according to wiki?
[08:38] <djm62> flodine: if you're using gnome-terminal, put the fonts into .font and all will be well
[08:38] <karlan> navarone, yepp
[08:39] <flodine> thxs
[08:39] <djm62> soundray: I'd /think/ that installing xfonts-artwiz would make them available to gnome too, possibly after a login/logout
[08:39] <JFlash> djm62, thank you!
[08:39] <karlan> navarone, didnt work first time, so i tried the legacy, and that went really wrong, so i got back to the newer one
[08:39] <navarone> karlan ddid you install restricted modules for your arch?
[08:39] <karlan> navarone, now you lost me
[08:39] <soundray> djm62, 'New login' under Applications-System should work, too, shouldn't it?
[08:39] <djm62> JFlash: the package management stuff is really nice, unless you have particularly specialist needs you should never need to download a .deb
[08:40] <djm62> soundray: ummm, probably :)
[08:40] <soundray> djm62, since it starts a new X server on a separate vt...
[08:40] <karlan> navarone, i just followed the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:40] <JFlash> djm62, indeed. it's hot!
[08:40] <navarone> karlan the wiki has a part about restricted modules...right after the part about searching for nvidia in synaptic
[08:40] <djm62> soundray: quicker for you to try it than for me to find out ;)
[08:40] <soundray> djm62, but it doesn't. Not for me, and not for flodine, if I understand his problem.
[08:40] <soundray> djm62, yeah, I've tried several times.
[08:41] <navarone> karlan yeah thats what i am looking at
[08:41] <djm62> soundray: so why did you ask :(
[08:41] <karlan> navarone, yeah that one :)
[08:41] <soundray> djm62, I need some encouragement before I file a bug against xfonts-artwiz.
[08:41] <karlan> i installed the wrong first time, but i changed it to 686
[08:41] <djm62> ah...
[08:41] <JFlash> i find the default ubuntu text font to big, i'd like to have smaller menu and control fonts in my screen. is that easy to change?
[08:42] <karlan> reading after 9 hours of working night isnt always the easiest :)
[08:42] <soundray> djm62, hope that's okay -- sorry if it's not.
[08:42] <JFlash> i messed around with the "themes" dialog and it's quite poor, wont let you change font sizes :(
[08:42] <navarone> karaln...search nvidia againa nd make sure you uninstall legacy drivers if you previously installed them...I would doa  complete removal if they are present
[08:42] <djm62> soundray: of course...just slightly baffled
[08:42] <karlan> navarone, ok, will try
[08:42] <karlan> 2 secs
[08:42] <djm62> JFlash: System->Preferences->Font
[08:43] <navarone> karlan could be some kinda config issue...<shrug>
[08:43] <djm62> JFlash: because people's taste in eyecandy doesn't correlate well with eyesight ;)
[08:43] <karlan> navarone, is there anything i have to do with the line 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' ?
[08:43] <karlan> disable it?
[08:44] <Opinie> what does a daemon meen?
[08:44] <djm62> soundray: is there anything on the wiki about that?
[08:44] <navarone> karlan I don't think so...but ti has been a while since I went thru driver install...not sure what you may be expected to do
[08:45] <djm62> Opinie: Disk And Execution Monitor, literally.  A programme which runs all the time and requires no direct user interaction
[08:45] <karlan> navarone, hold on, will change irc-client
[08:45] <navarone> karaln search for restricted modules and make sure they are installed
[08:45] <djm62> *program
[08:45] <soundray> djm62, checking
[08:45] <karlan_> :)
[08:45] <Opinie> djm62: eeh... ok...
[08:46] <JFlash> JFlash, yea, lol.  but i do use very large text when i'm reading in firefox. for menus and controls i'ts not really that much a problem , cz you might know that ppl really reads shapes and images, not actually letters ;)
[08:46] <navarone> karlan what does "Lmnar" mean?
[08:46] <djm62> Opinie: I wasn't sure what level you were asking at ;)
[08:46] <karlan> navarone leaving in swedish :)
[08:46] <pm> is it really the easiest distro in the world?
[08:46] <Opinie> djm62: so it just monitors what's happening?
[08:46] <karlan> different charset :)
[08:46] <navarone> ok...thought it was "Later"
[08:47] <karlan> an A with 2 dots over it :)
[08:47] <Opinie> djm62: yeah I'm not sure either...
[08:47] <karlan> navarone "connection to xserver lost"
[08:47] <karlan> 1 sec
[08:47] <karlan> doing a complete reboot
[08:47] <nadia007> I'm trying to setup a ubuntu network server with ubuntu clients.  What do I have to do with ubuntu server to manager login users and account permission etc?
[08:48] <Jemt> Greetings. I'm looking for a special screensaver for my system. It's a Matrix screen saver that display images within the code - difficult to explain. Does anyone know that? I already got GLMatrix and XMatrix - don't think it is one of these though
[08:48] <navarone> karlan yeah you may need reboot in order for modules to load
[08:48] <pm> IS UBUNTU THE EASIEST DISTRO???!!!
[08:48] <djm62> Opinie: originally that was what they did.  now any useful background process tends to be called a daemon... webserver processes, cleanup processes.  the "janitors" rather than the front-of-house staff like browsers, editors and games
[08:48] <bz0b> pm: Just might be
[08:48] <SQlvpapir> thanks for your help everybody got it worked out now.
[08:48] <rackerz> pm, there's lots. it's one of the most easiest i've ever used.
[08:48] <nadia007> pm, it's all a matter of opinion, but if you're asking me... I'd say yup!
[08:48] <rackerz> agreed.
[08:48] <Ue2> are any steam linux version?
[08:49] <pm> Many people say it's the easiest one
[08:49] <Opinie> djm62: ok thanks a lot I think I actually understand... lol... ;-)
[08:49] <karlan> oh so slow computer :>
[08:49] <Shado-x> shadox lives :D
[08:49] <pm> which one's the hardest, then?
[08:50] <rackerz> Ue2 I think there's a beta. Not out yet though, check www.steampowered.com (go to the forums)
[08:50] <karlan> its quite fun to tamper with the whole trial and error concept :) gives you a good overlook of the system
[08:50] <Ue2> thanks rackerz
[08:50] <djm62> Opinie: if you're looking at process lists, the daemons tend to have "d" at the end of the program name, and are best left alone unless you know what you're doing
[08:50] <nadia007> pm, slackware I found a bit tough... all command line... you master that, you can handle anything!
[08:50] <djm62> pm: linux from scratch
[08:50] <karlan> navarone ok, so now i am following the guide again
[08:50] <karlan> 2 secs
[08:50] <pm> what about gentoo?
[08:51] <navarone> pm...it is quite easy if you have some experience using text editors in config files...adn that is not hard to pick up any way...most probs relate to vidcardx and mouse/keyboard from my experience
[08:51] <twosticks> okay, i seriously need some help with apache2 & mod_perl2
[08:51] <soundray> djm62, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto essentially says that once installed via synaptic, fonts should be accessible. It mentions that you may have to restart the program where you want to use the font, but nothing about X needing restarting.
[08:51] <navarone> pm...no idea about gentoo
[08:52] <Opinie> djm62: No I just started thinking "what a h*** does a daemon meen? O_o"
[08:52] <karlan> navarone when i mark nvidia-glx for installation, it automaticlly marks the 386 module for installation to
[08:52] <karlan> why?
[08:52] <Ue2> rackerz, where is it?
[08:52] <Ue2> i didnt find it
[08:52] <pm> how long have you been using ubuntu?
[08:53] <twosticks> can anyone tell me how to configure apache2/mod_perl2 to produce core dumps?
[08:53] <djm62> soundray: you are on breezy? can you tell me an artwiz fontname off the top of your head?
[08:53] <navarone> karlan are you running anythign other than 386 kernel?
[08:54] <plasmoduck> pm, try OpenVMS
[08:54] <karlan> navarone pentium 4 is 686 right?
[08:54] <plasmoduck> my OS of choice for VAX and Alphas
[08:54] <Ue2> are any steam linux version?
[08:54] <soundray> djm62, anorexic :)
[08:54] <navarone> karlan yes...but do you have the 686 kernel installed?
[08:54] <pm> what is it?
[08:54] <karlan> navarone not sure :)
[08:54] <plasmoduck> NetBSD for x86
[08:55] <nadia007> does ubuntu have it's own version of active directory like win to authenticate users?
[08:55] <plasmoduck> pm, or be a man and run Plan 9
[08:55] <navarone> karlan you may need to update kernel...search for linux-686
[08:55] <soundray> djm62, erm, sorry, that one isn't in artwiz. aqui, drift, edges...
[08:55] <karlan> i thaught that it wasnt possible to run a different kernel than the one for a specific cpu?
[08:55] <karlan> ok
[08:55] <djm62> soundray: Astron Boy?
[08:55] <Ue2> are any steam linux version?
[08:56] <rackerz> just a sec
[08:56] <rackerz> i'll get the link
[08:56] <korhalf> Ue2, im pretty sure you can wine it
[08:56] <soundray> djm62, no, not that one. anorexia is what I meant above.
[08:56] <korhalf> Ue2, steam, as in cs:s and all that?
[08:56] <pm> Plan 9????]
[08:56] <rackerz> yep as in them
[08:56] <Ue2> i want to play counter striek yes
[08:56] <navarone> karlan yes...but restricted modules will only run for the kernel you ar eusing...that is why it wants 386 modules no doubt...are you given a choice or 386 or 686 kernel to boot when you start in grub?
[08:57] <djm62> soundray: well, I have xfonts-artwiz and it isn't available in my gnome apps (I just assumed any funky fonts were artwiz)
[08:57] <karlan> navarone hmm, not sure. i installed the 686 now. reboot?
[08:57] <toresbe> plasmoduck: Ew. A VAX needs 4.2BSD.
[08:57] <Jemt> Does anyone know a screensaver which simulates the console from The Matrix? I know that there exists a screensaver which displays images within the matrix code. I Just can't seem to find it any where. Please help :)
[08:57] <navarone> karaln...if you just installed 686 make sure restricted modules 686 are done as well
[08:57] <rackerz> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/
[08:57] <rackerz> There are the Steam forums
[08:57] <karlan> yeah, that was installed to
[08:57] <toresbe> uh, 4.4BSD*
[08:57] <djm62> soundray: low-priority bug in need of a workaround and fix next update, you think?
[08:57] <karlan> and the common thingie :)
[08:57] <plasmoduck> toresbe, no way! VMS for life!
[08:58] <korhalf> karlan, everything working ? :)
[08:58] <navarone> karlan...okay...reboot and when grub menu comes up select the 686 one...if all goes well you can use synaptic to uninstall 386 kernel to save space if it's an issue
[08:58] <karlan> navarone i have been booting the 386 kernel :S
[08:58] <soundray> djm62, sounds right. Unless other xfonts-* packages exhibit that behaviour, which I will check before I file anything.
[08:58] <plasmoduck> Digital Unix
[08:58] <plasmoduck> HP-UX
[08:58] <karlan> navarone can i assume that the problem lies there? :)
[08:59] <naddar> anyone knows where i can find good am-64 bits soft
[08:59] <navarone> korhalf, karlan is trying to get nvidia to paly ball...I was thinking it may be restricted modules for different arch's installed
[08:59] <rackerz> Sorry to interrupt, but has anyone gotten Gaim working in Kubuntu?
[08:59] <seth_k|lappy> rackerz, sure, wfm
[08:59] <rackerz> wfm?
[08:59] <navarone> karlan...to be honest I dunno...but I did three kernel upgrades and now use k7
[08:59] <karlan> korhalf oh, didnt see you :) using standard mirc now, so now highlights :)
[09:00] <plasmoduck> !tell rackerz about search
[09:00] <navarone> kalran...if you are using windows...dl Icechat...better than mirc
[09:00] <karlan> korhalf working on the nvidia problem still :) se if it is working now that i am booting the right kernel ;D
[09:01] <UncleD> What would cause this error? rndc: connect failed: connection refused when I try to run /etc/init.d/bind9 reload
[09:01] <karlan> navarone nah, this is just temporary. on my laptop now, using x-chat as standard :)
[09:01] <plasmoduck> rackerz, if you want to talk, talk in #ausphreak
[09:01] <plasmoduck> please don't dcc chat me
[09:02] <rackerz> Sorry, i meant to say has anyone gotten the Gaim beta to work yet.
[09:02] <rackerz> I can't seem to get it working, it wont launch
[09:02] <naddar> anyone have a url with software for me  :)
[09:02] <navarone> naddar...tucows...<s>
[09:02] <plasmoduck> rackerz, read the log file.
[09:03] <plasmoduck> naddar, software for what?
[09:03] <rackerz> where would i find it?
[09:03] <rackerz> in my home folder?
[09:03] <plasmoduck> rackerz, /var/log/
[09:03] <karlan> brb
[09:03] <naddar> plasmoduck: i'm looking for a server or http with ubuntu 64bits software
[09:03] <rackerz> hmmmmm people have have been telling me the wrong things
[09:03] <cdubya> what's a good midi player?
[09:04] <karlan_> navarone, i got this errormsg when typing this command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:04] <karlan_> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[09:04] <karlan_> changing manually?
[09:04] <plasmoduck> naddar, so you want a webserver?
[09:04] <plasmoduck> !tell naddar about search
[09:04] <karlan_> brb again :)
[09:04] <plasmoduck> sudo apt-get install apache
[09:05] <naddar> no i like to find the mplayer-amd64 bits deb file
[09:05] <naddar> to install it :( but i dont find any sources to add it in my sources.list
[09:05] <DonVincenzo> why can I read this http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php while my version of amarok is still 1.3.1 ?
[09:05] <karlan_> navarone, still no nvidia logo :\
[09:05] <DonVincenzo> and my packages "up to date
[09:07] <Shado-x> h guys i'm off for a while, as designer (making a site for audi) i got a lot of work.
[09:07] <plasmoduck> naddar, apt-cache search mplayer
[09:07] <Shado-x> goodnight everybody & grtz from belgium (k)
[09:09] <karlan_> navarone, still there?
[09:09] <navarone> karlan...go to terminal and try glxgears...see if it runs
[09:10] <gothmog_1-50> hallo zusammen!
[09:10] <karlan_> navarone, yeah, it works
[09:10] <navarone> karlan...try glxgears -printfps and see how high a frame rate you get
[09:11] <Ue2> are any steam linux version?
[09:11] <rackerz> Ask in the steamforums
[09:11] <rackerz> arcor-ip.net has Quit iRC ("Verlassend")
[09:11] <rackerz> [8:11pm]  <Ue2> are any
[09:11] <rackerz> ? Ignore that
[09:11] <navarone> kalran...you are using breezy right?
[09:11] <karlan_> navarone, 9893 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1978.312 FPS
[09:11] <karlan_> navarone, yeah
[09:12] <navarone> karlan what exactly is the prob with drivers?
[09:13] <naddar> how can i install a downloaded .deb fike
[09:13] <naddar> how can i install a downloaded .deb file
[09:13] <navarone> nadar dpkg -i <name of file>.deb
[09:13] <karlan_> navarone, first off, i cant change the refresh rate on the screen (supports 85 hz at this resolution) and the graphics in ex. screensavers etc are very poor.
[09:13] <b166> if i wan to find some file
[09:13] <b166> what its the command in terminal?
[09:13] <karlan_> not that i care about the screensavers, but it could be good to have the right drivers
[09:14] <riley> guys anyone know why I am not allowed to edit my wiki home page....  I am a new user, is there some lockout period?
[09:14] <naddar> navarone: thans
[09:14] <padraig> ok, I am missing two files that cups needs to talk to (/etc/cups/printers.conf and /etc/cups/classes.conf ) (or so /var/log/cups/error_log tells me) any suggestions?
[09:14] <riley> (for the ubuntu developer site)
[09:14] <navarone> karaln...paste your full xorg in pastebin
[09:14] <navarone> naddar you need to be in directory file is in to run in terminal
[09:14] <karlan_> navarone, ok hold on
[09:15] <naddar> navarone:  it tells me its holded by another proces
[09:15] <navarone> karaln> I have a section that specifies refresha nd resolution...I will see if it diff from yours
[09:15] <karlan_> navarone, url to pastebin? :)
[09:15] <karlan_> navarone, found it :)
[09:15] <navarone> !pastebin
[09:15] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:15] <cdubya> anyone know the midi plugin package name for beep media player?.
[09:16] <karlan_> navarone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5965
[09:16] <naddar> navarone: from netherlands?
[09:16] <navarone> naddar...do you have two terminals open or otherwise using the file somewhere else?
[09:16] <navarone> naddar no...Canada
[09:17] <naddar> damn, slang1 there is no 64bits version for it :(
[09:18] <Knowerrors> Whats the ubuntu off topic irc?
[09:18] <naddar> navarone: mplayer-amd64: Needs: slang1 (> 1.4.9dbs-4)
[09:19] <navarone> karaln...what kinda monitor you using?
[09:19] <navarone> naddar sry...notr using 64bit proc
[09:19] <karlan_> navarone, fujitsu siemens scaleo c994 19"
[09:19] <naddar> ok :(
[09:19] <naddar> anyone using 64bits version?
[09:20] <yggdrasil> hey guys i feel retarded but can i ask for some help getting fluxbox going on this ppc distro ?
[09:20] <navarone> karlan...do you have user manual for monitor?
[09:20] <rackerz> can anybody confirm the forums are abit slow at the moment?
[09:21] <yggdrasil>  Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed just lookes like a dependecnie issue how can i do a no dep ?
[09:21] <karlan_> navarone, nope, i dont :\
[09:21] <trappist> yggdrasil: it's not pretending to depend on that package.  it needs it.
[09:21] <naddar> is there a version for flux 64bits?
[09:22] <Danielle-> hi, does anyone here use Opera?
[09:22] <trappist> Danielle-: probably
[09:22] <JFlash> i just installed Beet Media Player using the synap.. package manager but it wont play my mp3 files. it loads them but playback wont start. what am i doing wrong?
[09:22] <riley> anyone know why I cant create a new wiki page on ubuntu's website
[09:22] <karlan_> navarone, w8, i found the manual at the manufactorors homepage
[09:22] <Danielle-> can you help me clear all cookies?
[09:22] <karlan_> :)
[09:22] <trappist> !tell JFlash about mp3
[09:23] <karlan_> navarone, nope, that was a dead end :\
[09:23] <karlan_> "No manuals are available at present."
[09:23] <trappist> riley: you need to get an account
[09:23] <riley> i have an account
[09:23] <riley> i am logged in
[09:24] <JFlash> !tell
[09:24] <yggdrasil> trappist i cant seem to find that pkg anywhere to dl ...
[09:24] <rockin_stan>  <----mal afk
[09:24] <yggdrasil> sorry im kinda of a newb when it comes to this part of it.. i made ubuntu work on a starmax 3000/180 so im not feeling too bad
[09:25] <JFlash> trappist, thank you
[09:25] <Danielle-> i went to tools>preferences>cookies and cleared everything but when i go to pages i've already been to they're highlighted like i have cookies somewhere pages i haven't been too are highlighted a different colour
[09:25] <trappist> yggdrasil: have you tried 'sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ?
[09:26] <trappist> Danielle-: that sounds like cache, not cookies
[09:26] <benplaut> can someone give me one good reason why the bitstream fonts aren't default?
[09:26] <Danielle-> OK i'll it thanks
[09:27] <trappist> Danielle-: tools->delete private data
[09:28] <yggdrasil> trappist Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package
[09:28] <Danielle-> Wow, it worked. thanks trappist :)
[09:28] <yggdrasil> :(
[09:29] <trappist> yggdrasil: and where did you get fluxbox? did you try sudo apt-get install fluxbox?
[09:29] <JaZyLNX> okay guys i have a 200gb drive on /dev/sda1 i want to format it, and conver it from fat32 -> ext3 how do i do it?
[09:29] <yggdrasil> trappist yea i did
[09:29] <yggdrasil> it was a package that um
[09:30] <yggdrasil> i downloaded i guesseim probobly gonna have to compile it huh
[09:30] <p_al> hi i have some problem with the keyboard. Iam not able to use norwegian keyboard. i have added norwegian in the keyboard layout but iam not able to use special characters
[09:30] <trappist> yggdrasil: you downloaded it, or you did apt-get install?
[09:30] <yggdrasil> no apt-get for fluxbox here
[09:30] <yggdrasil> i downloaded it a .deb
[09:30] <wookie_boy> --- gulp --- just installed ubuntu for my very first linux box.. got one question on video resolution
[09:31] <theblue> yggdrasil: You need to enable universe.
[09:31] <yggdrasil> ahhh thanks
[09:31] <navarone> karlan_, try this in monitor section http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5966  I found the horizontal and vertical limits for the mo9nitor...the lower values are what is on mine...the higher ones are your maximum...put that in and restart x
[09:31] <cdubya> can anyone tell me where to find the package names for midi plugins for beep-media-player or suggest a good alternative to playing midi files?
[09:31] <karlan_> navarone, thx =)
[09:32] <wookie_boy> basically it wont let me go above 800 even though it shows my ati rage card..
[09:32] <navarone> karlan_,  lemme know how it works
[09:32] <trappist> yggdrasil: you're generally going to have bad luck downloading .debs.  they're usually going to be binary-incompatible and/or have unresolvable dependency issues if they're not for your specific distro/version
[09:32] <wookie_boy> do I need to sacrifice a chicken?
[09:32] <karlan_> navarone, yeah, brb :)
[09:32] <mantrax> Hi!
[09:32] <wookie_boy> hi!
[09:32] <mantrax> Alguien habla castellano?
[09:33] <mantrax> I'm a newbie in Ubuntu
[09:33] <_jason> !es
[09:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:33] <trappist> wookie_boy: what driver are you using
[09:33] <remi> hi all
[09:33] <wookie_boy> don't know
[09:33] <mantrax> Thanx
[09:33] <trappist> wookie_boy: try 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx'
[09:34] <wookie_boy> k will do
[09:34] <mr3vil> hi everybody
[09:34] <korhalf> hello
[09:34] <mr3vil> <- new to ubuntu
[09:34] <trappist> wookie_boy: and change 'ati' to 'fglrx' in the device section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <korhalf> <- okay
[09:34] <wookie_boy> fglrx.. got it
[09:34] <Dublines> need help uninstalling kubuntu
[09:35] <theblue> Dublines: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <trappist> theblue: that won't do anything useful
[09:35] <theblue> Oh?
[09:35] <korhalf> that doesnt do it
[09:35] <korhalf> the programs still stay
[09:35] <trappist> it's a meta-package.  it won't remove any real packages.
[09:35] <jenda> Is a BJ Color printer better than a Laser Corol for quality?
[09:35] <korhalf> exactly
[09:35] <karlan_> navarone, you are aware of that you are just a pure simple god? :D
[09:35] <korhalf> BJ color printer you say?
[09:35] <korhalf> lol
[09:36] <_jason> Dublines, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[09:36] <karlan_> worked like a charm :-)
[09:36] <navarone> karaln...shhh...don't let it get around...all that humbling and worship gets me down
[09:36] <karlan_> thx alot :D
[09:36] <_oP> hello all, i have problems since clean install ubuntu breezy, situation is that i can set up my xmms player to output oss, esd (have deactivated system sounds) alsa ans so on..
[09:36] <karlan_> navarone, hehe :P
[09:36] <trappist> dustin_: try 'sudo apt-get remove kwin'.  enough of kde depends on kwin that it should get most of it.
[09:36] <navarone> karlan no prob
[09:36] <p_al> never mind i fixed it
[09:36] <Dublines> have never used linux before, obviously not very straight forward
[09:36] <p_al> bye
[09:36] <cdubya> jenda, depends on who you ask.....heh
[09:36] <mr3vil> anybody any important advices before i start using Kubuntu!?
[09:37] <mr3vil> like important programs, or "must-haves"!?
[09:37] <korhalf> mr3vil, don't use it.
[09:37] <korhalf> use Gnome
[09:37] <karlan_> no more sore eyes for me :) yay :p
[09:37] <mr3vil> why?
[09:37] <trappist> mr3vil: depends on what you do
[09:37] <korhalf> karlan_, what was the problem? refresh rate?
[09:37] <_jason> karlan_, what turned out to be the problem?
[09:37] <navarone> korhalf, yeah
[09:37] <karlan_> korhalf, yeah
[09:37] <korhalf> pfft
[09:37] <karlan_> :)
[09:37] <mr3vil> trappist. just usual apps like office, music, dvd
[09:37] <_oP> if i try to run games like quake and wolfenstein et with xmms playing i get device bussy under hoary i could use artsdsp -m to avoide this problem now i get Received signal 11, exiting...
[09:37] <mr3vil> nothing really special
[09:37] <jhenn> How can I share out my internet connection through ethernet because this computer doesn't use ethernet it uses wireless
[09:37] <korhalf> modeline in xorg.conf?
[09:37] <karlan_> navarone, but is the driver installed properly now?
[09:38] <trappist> mr3vil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:38] <mr3vil> a little php-programming
[09:38] <korhalf> mr3vil, stick with Gnome man, it has all the same stuff, but less bloated in my opinion
[09:38] <navarone> karlan more than likely always was
[09:38] <Dublines> Problem with Kubuntu picking up usb creative muvo and netopia broadband
[09:38] <cdubya> jenda, the laser color printer's I've seen print continuous tone, so I tend to like them better.....
[09:38] <mr3vil> what is faster!? gnome / kde?
[09:38] <trappist> korhalf: some people prefer kde.
[09:38] <dallows> Where can I find grub.conf ?
[09:38] <jenda> cdubya: good enough thanks
[09:38] <mr3vil> i don't really know the difference
[09:38] <korhalf> yeh my RCA Lyra is picked up as a mass storage usb device in windows, i wonder what itd be like in linux
[09:38] <korhalf> trappist, perhaps,
[09:38] <karlan_> navarone, okay, so it just was the settings for the screen?
[09:39] <korhalf> mr3vil, in that case use gnome
[09:39] <karlan_> i didnt se any nvidialogo at restart thou
[09:39] <navarone> korhalf...I find trying to use the dpkg reconfigure xserver thingy can mess up mouse and kb when trying to fix resolution isssue...so I just edit the monitor section manually
[09:39] <dallows> Where can I find grub.conf ? plz.. know someone ?
[09:39] <mr3vil> korhalf  is it easier?
[09:39] <cdubya> jenda, np
[09:39] <korhalf> navarone, yeah thats whati mean, you can edit the modeline in xorg.conf no?
[09:39] <karlan_> well, now thats not a problem anymore, the biggest problem was the refreshrate :)
[09:39] <mr3vil> or why are you recommending gnome!?
[09:39] <korhalf> mr3vil, in my opinion, it's not only easier, but more supported, and is easier, but i said that already
[09:39] <korhalf> i actually recommend fluxbox
[09:40] <korhalf> but considering you're new, just go with gnome
[09:40] <navarone> korhalf...yeah  simple 29-??? and 47-??? for vertical and horiz limits
[09:40] <mr3vil> ok ok
[09:40] <trappist> dallows: you probably don't have one.  why do you want it?
[09:40] <korhalf> navarone, i keep my monitor manuals :P
[09:40] <_oP> can someone help me please
[09:40] <mr3vil> thanks for the hinds ... i'll get gnomed then! ;)
[09:40] <korhalf> navarone, i forget the name of the utility, but it can find the refresh rates for vertical and horiz automatically
[09:40] <_jason> _oP, we can try if you ask a question
[09:40] <korhalf> it actually outputs a modeline for you, to just copy and paste in
[09:40] <navarone> korhalf...I just threw mine out after having them for four years and then needed to set resolution...lol
[09:41] <korhalf> navarone, yeah lol, i found my monitor that im using in the trash
[09:41] <karlan_> navarone, where do i edit the grub boot list? want to remove the 386 etc.
[09:41] <korhalf> navarone, it's garbage, literally
[09:41] <karlan_> have almost 10 lines now :)
[09:41] <_oP> @_jason cant use artsdsp -m option anymore since i installed breezy
[09:41] <korhalf> karlan_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:41] <karlan_> thx
[09:41] <navarone> korhalf...it is some kind or modprobe you use to find monitor limits capabilities
[09:41] <_oP> sounds run fine but i need to run xmms and the game at same time
[09:41] <dallows> trappist: cause I need to edit it ;-)
[09:41] <_jason> _oP, no idea, I don't use arts
[09:41] <korhalf> _oP, this is probably because the game uses OSS
[09:42] <korhalf> i have the same problem with wolf ET
[09:42] <navarone> karlan...you can use synpatic to remove old kernels and update grub as well
[09:42] <korhalf> i can either have my music, and have no sound in game, or i can have no music and sound in game
[09:42] <trappist> dallows: are you sure you're not looking for menu.lst?
[09:42] <_oP> strange, as i still was using hoary it all worked with arts
[09:42] <_oP> ...
[09:42] <occy> Does anyone think doing rmmod psmouse would cause any instability problems?
[09:42] <Dublines> Trappist, I did a clean install onto a ibm Thinkpad 600e. No floppy drive. Need to return to windows 98, for the next couple of weeks, any suggestions re: uninstall or running windows with linux
[09:43] <navarone> occy, are you using a psmouse?
[09:43] <korhalf> navarone, i was about to ask that lol
[09:43] <occy> navarone, well, I think my touchpad does
[09:43] <_oP> @_jason what sound server do u use?
[09:43] <korhalf> _oP, i dont know then
[09:43] <occy> I keep hitting it and want to turn off my touchpad
[09:43] <_jason> _oP, alsa
[09:43] <korhalf> _oP, use alsa
[09:43] <benplaut> [dapper]  do you think i'll break my system beyond hope of repair if i use Xorg packages from debian experimental?
[09:43] <navarone> occy, if you are using a psmouse you should let it load
[09:43] <occy> heh
[09:44] <_oP> can u play, like xmms and run like vlc with sound at the same time..?
[09:44] <occy> HP_Owner4444, heh
[09:44] <korhalf> _oP, you can do anything :)
[09:44] <navarone> occy, sorry...not posh enuff for a laptop me
[09:44] <trappist> Dublines: installing windows 98 onto a machine with linux already on it is going to be very, very tricky.  you'll need to destroy the linux partition(s) first.
[09:44] <korhalf> _oP, thats how good ALSA is
[09:44] <occy> navarone, np
[09:44] <_oP> hmm not working here
[09:44] <_oP> :(
[09:44] <h4x> im new to linux, and im having trouble with updating my firefox. Its currently version 1.0.57. I downloaded the upaded to 1.5 .tar.gz what now?
[09:44] <occy> HP_Owner4444, I've got a dv4150us laptop myself :)
[09:44] <korhalf> h4x, don't bother with it.
[09:44] <_oP> i have a onboard soundcard from abit an7
[09:45] <navarone> trappist...he can use gparted to make the fat32 partition for 98...<?>
[09:45] <_oP> maybe it does not support mixing
[09:45] <_oP> ?
[09:45] <korhalf> i think it was in the motd at one point to not ask how to isntall the new firefox
[09:45] <benplaut> i'm going to take that silence as a yes, it'll hose it, and this guy is nuts to even consider it :P
[09:45] <nicholaspaul> h4x 0 yes bother! There are instructions on the site - lemme see if i can find them again
[09:45] <h4x> thank you. for your help
[09:45] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, what's the point? theres nothing great about the new one
[09:45] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, i think it just uses more resources
[09:45] <cmatheson_> navarone: yes, you could use parted
[09:45] <cdubya> does anyone here know about enabling midi playback on ubuntu?
[09:45] <korhalf> use Opera for god sakes, or dillo
[09:46] <Jemt> Greetings. Why is MatrixView no longer included in XScreenSaver ?
[09:46] <korhalf> cdubya, i jus tuse windows + reason
[09:46] <navarone> dillo...that one always makes me laff
[09:46] <Jemt> And how can I install it ?
[09:46] <korhalf> cdubya, i have a midi - usb converter, and i think its picked up but
[09:46] <h4x> one thing that i didnt like about firefox is the lack of plugins already installed
[09:46] <korhalf> navarone, dillo, dildo
[09:46] <navarone> lol
[09:46] <h4x> dillo?
[09:46] <nicholaspaul> korhalf - h4x wants to install it. You just going to deny access?!!!
[09:46] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, of course
[09:46] <navarone> korhalf...I had a ton of "mount" jokes at the ready
[09:46] <korhalf> if it's not in the repository, theres a good reason for it.
[09:46] <nicholaspaul> - and thats your opinion anyhow.
[09:46] <teroedni> hmm i find  ff1.5 to bee good
[09:46] <_oP> i looked up ubuntu forums also posted my problems but noone can help me, is this a bug?
[09:46] <h4x> i agree with nicholaspaul, but i do have an open mind to browser suggestions
[09:46] <korhalf> navarone, make love
[09:47] <Dublines> Trappist, is there a way to remove ubuntu and then install from Window 98 cd?
[09:47] <DewDude> well
[09:47] <DewDude> this is lovely
[09:47] <korhalf> h4x, dude honestly, opera is 10x faster
[09:47] <cmatheson_> Dublines: just use fdisk to delete your linux partitions
[09:47] <topyli> h4x: dillo is a very small and light browser that is strictly for html. no plugins, no java, no nothing
[09:47] <cdubya> korhalf, I just want to be able to play midis.....
[09:47] <navarone> Dublines...do you not want to keep ubuntu?
[09:47] <korhalf> Dublines, i recommend the sudo rm -rf / method
[09:47] <dallows> trappist: yea.. ure right.. thx ;-)
[09:47] <korhalf> cdubya, yeh i dont know
[09:47] <nicholaspaul> h4x. use whatever browser you want!!!!
[09:47] <nicholaspaul> h4x - http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.html#install
[09:48] <cdubya> kmid keeps telling me it can't initialize the sequencer
[09:48] <nicholaspaul> jeez....
[09:48] <h4x> it formats the html right? or is it raw output. topyli
[09:48] <korhalf> cdubya, that has nothing to do with midi, it has to do with the sequencer in the program
[09:48] <james_> how do I register with freenode for a nick?
[09:48] <trappist> Dublines: you'll need to boot to a linux livecd or rescue cd to destroy the ubuntu filesystems.  then you should be able to install windows.
[09:48] <Dublines> Thanks for that
[09:48] <korhalf> h4x, if you're concerned about dillo not formatting pages correclty and not supporting java and all that, use Opera
[09:48] <trappist> james_: /msg chanserv register <password>
[09:48] <nicholaspaul> james_, try googling for 'register irc'
[09:48] <navarone> james_,  /msg nickserv register password < ---registers current nick with password you provide
[09:49] <trappist> err yeah nickserv
[09:49] <korhalf> Dublines, destroying linux partitions makes the baby Jesus cry
[09:49] <james_> okay say I want a different nick than what I have now?
[09:49] <h4x> i'll try opera
[09:49] <trappist> james_: /nick newnick
[09:49] <topyli> h4x: it shows html all right, formatted and laid out like any graphical browser. but that's all it does. it's very fast :)
[09:49] <navarone> james_, change nick and then register it
[09:49] <cdubya> korhalf, I know, but I don't know how to fix it because I don't mess with the sound system much since it just works. :)
[09:49] <korhalf>  /msg korhalf register password <-- registers your password with the network and sends you hax for Counter Strike
[09:49] <nicholaspaul> h4x yea opera is pretty cool. i have it only for testing.
[09:50] <james_> okay thank you trappist :)
[09:50] <h4x> can i have some links to opera or dillo
[09:50] <navarone> One of the best features of opera is the note taking
[09:50] <jenda> And what about foto printing? Laser or ink?
[09:50] <occy> http://www.vincel.org/146789.html
[09:50] <occy> hmm
[09:50] <h4x> I'll google them. thanks for the help
[09:50] <_oP> here the situation alsa world fine also oss, but i need a soundserver that works under breezy, because i guess my hardware does not support mixing multiple audio sources,
[09:50] <occy> Why isn't there one?
[09:51] <korhalf> for those of you who were here when i was trying to choose ahostname
[09:51] <korhalf> its final
[09:51] <korhalf> chris@veela$:
[09:51] <_oP> arts will not run with quake or enemy territory anymore
[09:51] <_oP> ??
[09:51] <topyli> h4x: try opera.com and dillo.org. or try to make a better guess :)
[09:51] <korhalf> veela rolls off the tongue easy, and it isnt complex to pronounce
[09:51] <lowman> <--much better
[09:51] <lowman> :)
[09:51] <h4x> :)
[09:51] <jenda> cdubya: any idea about foto printing?
[09:51] <cdubya> jenda, some of the nicer inkjets don't do too bad on good photo paper, but it's the continuous tone that I like.....
[09:51] <korhalf> and is also better than linuxbox
[09:52] <cdubya> jenda, I've got a client that uses a nice wide format Epson that does a fantastic job.....
[09:52] <Dublines> trappist, have the grub> prompt. What is the command to unintall?
[09:52] <jhenn> How can I share out my internet connection through ethernet because this computer doesn't use ethernet it uses wireless
[09:52] <cdubya> jenda, it's a 6-color inkjet if memory serves, and the output is nice.
[09:52] <cdubya> jenda, but I still think the color lasers are sharper with the imaging......
[09:53] <nicholaspaul> jhenn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[09:53] <h4x> topyli, which package do i download. gnu-darin, rpms, netbsd?
[09:53] <_oP> ------- sound initialization -------
[09:53] <_oP> Received signal 11, exiting...
[09:53] <_oP>  ahhhhhhhhhhh
[09:53] <nicholaspaul> Googling will save people a lot of time in IRC..............
[09:53] <robotgeek> _oP: don't paste here
[09:53] <korhalf> robotgeek, it's only two lines, not a big deal
[09:53] <arnducky> nicholaspaul, where's the fun in that?
[09:53] <arnducky> ;-)
[09:53] <topyli> h4x: i haven't seen opera for ages, but i'
[09:53] <korhalf> i think if it's more than 3-4 you should use pastebin
[09:53] <navarone> I google so much I have googly eyes
[09:53] <nicholaspaul> yea, i guess learning sucks.
[09:53] <topyli> d look for debian packages
[09:54] <trappist> Dublines: grub doesn't uninstall.
[09:54] <jhenn> nicholaspaul: how do you get a "root terminal"?
[09:54] <korhalf> topyli, nicholaspaul, and whoever else
[09:54] <korhalf> on operas site, they have support for ubuntu
[09:54] <korhalf> no need for debian packages, even though they're probably the same thing
[09:54] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, thats nice.
[09:54] <robotgeek> korhalf: i tht he wasgoin to paste more :)
[09:54] <nicholaspaul> jhenn, in Gnome its in one of the main menus.
[09:54] <h4x> topyli debian it is...
[09:54] <korhalf> robotgeek, oh
[09:54] <korhalf> h4x, (sigh)
[09:55] <cdubya> gah, anyone have any idea why kmid keeps telling me it can't use /dev/sequencer because it's already in use and how do I fix it?
[09:55] <topyli> h4x: looking at the download page, they seem to have ubuntu packages. how about those?
[09:55] <korhalf> http://opera.com/download/
[09:55] <jhenn> nicholaspaul: i don't see it
[09:55] <korhalf> you can choose Ubuntu from the drop down menu
[09:55] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, i wasnt bashing Opera, you can stop evangelizing the choir! Just that h4x wanted to install FF1.5.
[09:55] <korhalf> topyli, thank you!
[09:55] <nicholaspaul> jhenn, what do you want to do?
[09:55] <navarone> jhenn, if it isn't in application menu right click Applications and Edit Menus to add it
[09:55] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, wtf are you talking about? i was showing him that theres ubuntu packages
[09:55] <nicholaspaul> korhalf. Chill.
[09:56] <ciner> hello , how can i delete password stting in the Wallet ?
[09:56] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, you chill, and stop jumping to conclusions.
[09:56] <Jemt> GRR. Wha's wrrong with the rss-glx package? It is supposed to include the screensaver MatrixView - but is isn't there. How can I install it manually ?
[09:56] <navarone> jhennn...in edit menus...it is in Sytem tools...just check it so it shows up in menu
[09:56] <nicholaspaul> korhalf. was that "I know what you are, what am I ?!"
[09:56] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, man, im dropping it
[09:57] <nicholaspaul> korhalf,  i just disapprove of questioning why people want apps. I'm just trying to help.
[09:57] <ubuntu> Hey guys, I'm booted into the Ubuntu Breezy livecd but am having problems accessing my usb drive. Can someone help?
[09:57] <nicholaspaul> pathetic.
[09:57] <SweetestSavage> Excuse me, can anyone tell me how I can possibly change my accounts privileges? Sometimes I like to open up text files to edit them in GEdit, but unfortunately I can't because I don't have enough permission. I'm just wondering so I don't have to do it through the terminal all the time.
[09:57] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, no you're trolling
[09:57] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, that helps no one.
[09:57] <ubuntu> My drive isn't being recognized it seems (no indication in "dmesg")
[09:57] <nicholaspaul> jhenn,  just type 'sudo' in a regular terminal
[09:57] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, as root you can change the mode of the file
[09:57] <nicholaspaul> korhalf.. i have no bridge...
[09:57] <SweetestSavage> korhalf, I know.. but.. I mean in the GUI
[09:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell SweetestSavage about sudo
[09:57] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, ie. sudo chmod 655 foo.txt
[09:58] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, uh, i dont use gui, a whole lot
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> That'll change the permissions in the GUI?
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> I know
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> I'm new to Linux
[09:58] <ciner> SweetestSavage > Try   " sudo gedit /myfile "
[09:58] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, right click on the file, and go to properties
[09:58] <navarone> SweetestSavage, I find using sudo in terminal keeps me out of trouble personally...not root access file broswers open to foreget about...<s>
[09:58] <nicholaspaul> hi SweetestSavage
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> Hello
[09:58] <ubuntu> misfit_toy, yo
[09:58] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, if you want to use linux efficiently, learn the terminal, thats what 80 percent of linux is about
[09:58] <khermans> is there some sort of automation tool for clicking windows and tnetring data for Linux?
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> navarone, it's a possible security risk to give myself root privileges in GUI?
[09:58] <jenda> cdubya: OK, thx... my bro wanted to know - and I wanted to show him how WE obtain info :)
[09:58] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, the windows in you wants the GUI, you gotta just forget it
[09:58] <JFlash> how do i get to my .bmpx folder using the file browser?
[09:58] <JFlash> i can only get there using the terminal
[09:58] <SweetestSavage> Haha, you're right korhalf.
[09:59] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, ooo yes, definitely use sudo. I got into BIG trouble logging in as root.
[09:59] <ubuntu> Anyone?
[09:59] <khermans> Swedish_Chef, of course!
[09:59] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, probably not, but you can accidently delete important things and not even know it
[09:59] <_jason> JFlash, ctrl-H
[09:59] <navarone> SweetestSavage, I imagine it could be if you leave session opena nd then go doing things will-nilly
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> Okay, well, thanks =)
[09:59] <nicholaspaul> exactly as korhalf said.
[09:59] <khermans> navarone, running complex code as root is never a good idea
[09:59] <VooDoo> JFlaash,: show hidden files CTRL-H
[09:59] <dustin_> I am new to linux and need some help installing the java plugin for firefox if anyone can help it would be appreciated
[09:59] <korhalf> that is, if you forget which file browser is the root one.
[09:59] <_oP> okay guess noone can help me, but i will not give up! I will not be tempted to fall down on m*s level and buy a new soundcard
[09:59] <cdubya> jenda, np. Good luck!
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> I'm learning the terminal, just it's a little bit tough since i completely uninstalled windows and I'm only using Linux now. But, I know I'll learn to love it more than the GUI.
[09:59] <navarone> khermans, what complex code?
[09:59] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, good
[10:00] <khermans> dustin_, follow the wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:00] <_jason> JFlash, files that begin with a '.' are hidden.  ctrl-H will tell nautilus to show hidden files.
[10:00] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, thats the best way to learn :) just open up the shell and mess around, move files around, pipe stuff to Grep, learn to use it efficiently
[10:00] <SweetestSavage> Oh yeah, is there any keyboard shortcut to open up the terminal?
[10:00] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, try googling for an index of Linux commands. Open a terminal and cruise around. Just be careful not to delete anything, but you know, thats common sense;)
[10:00] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, save the mouse some wear and tear, plus it's faster thru the terminal with tab completion, at least to me
[10:00] <DewDude> has anyone gotten monkeys audio to work on gstreamer OR beep media player?
[10:00] <_jason> SweetestSavage, yeah mess around, just don't mess around with sudo :)
[10:00] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, depending on your gdm you can set your own up .
[10:00] <SweetestSavage> Okay. Thanks guys =)
[10:01] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, try right clicking in the panel and adding to it
[10:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell SweetestSavage about cli
[10:01] <nicholaspaul> am i helping SweetestSavage ?
[10:01] <korhalf> !cli
[10:01] <ubotu> I heard cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:01] <JaZyLNX> i need help getting the permissions set on a drive i have /dev/sda1 mounted fine but root owns it when i do a chmod 777 user or chown user (user= i want to be owner)  it does nothing how can i write on this drive and take ownership thanks
[10:01] <SweetestSavage> Aye, you are. Some of this stuff is really hard to figure out on your own
[10:01] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, /etc/fstab
[10:01] <navarone> SweetestSavage, if you are using p2p client try searching for "linux*.pdf" and you should find some good references
[10:01] <JaZyLNX> /dev/sda1       /media/Drive2     auto    rw,noauto  0       0
[10:01] <JaZyLNX> what is in fstab
[10:01] <navarone> I got a good Linuc command reference that way
[10:01] <SweetestSavage> Okay, well that's good then =) Linux makes sense more and more everyday, haha.
[10:02] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, here let me show you what my line is, for my windows drive
[10:02] <navarone> Linux*
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, yup, i had to figure out it all on my own. Just switching directories etc. is easy enough.
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> and if it doesnt let you do something in the terminal , DONT DO IT!! :-)
[10:02] <Xamusk> I'm having a problem trying to get xdmcp working: I enable xdmcp in the server's gdm.conf, but when I run X -query <ip> :1 it gives me the gray screen with X cursor (and no gdm), but when I run X -indirect <ip> :1 it gives me a list of servers available and when I click the server, it runs ok, with gdm
[10:02] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, ah i forgot, thats my other computer, and im lazy
[10:02] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, for options add user to the list
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> - but then i guess I'm trolling.
[10:02] <SweetestSavage> nicholaspaul, I usually do learn on my own, but Linux really takes the cake. I've been a DOS/Windows user for all my time, and trying to figure out commands and stuff without much reference was too difficult for me
[10:02] <korhalf> rw,user,noauto
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> Cool SweetestSavage
[10:02] <korhalf> JaZyLNX, put auto if you want it to mount every time you start
[10:03] <navarone> Sweetest...the "man" command in terminal can show you usage for most commands as well
[10:03] <ubuntu> can anyone read this?
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> but thats how i got to fig all this out. Just one thing at a time SweetestSavage
[10:03] <lowman> I remember when I first started in linux I would get the standard reply when I asked for help and that was ...RTFM :P```
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> ubuntu no. I cant read a thing
[10:03] <JFlash> _jason,  i have show hidden files checked
[10:03] <ubuntu> nicholaspaul, good
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> :D
[10:03] <JFlash> _jason, but i dont know where to start
[10:03] <korhalf> navarone, i hate "man", when i was a nub, the pages were complex, and hard to understand
[10:03] <korhalf> use google if you're stuck
[10:03] <ubuntu> so can anyone help me with the usb drive issue?
[10:03] <SweetestSavage> Yep =) Linux is a really exciting OS, plus with 64-bit possibilities I can run server software and heavy-memory programs with ease compared to windows
[10:03] <_jason> JFlash, how do you get to it in a terminal?
[10:03] <JFlash> _jason,  in the terminal i just do ./bmp
[10:03] <h4x> *scratches dillo_0.8.5-4_i386.deb off the list**
[10:03] <JFlash> .bmpx
[10:03] <SweetestSavage> Oh, what's the command to return your LAN IP address?
[10:04] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, and connectivity is a joy :D
[10:04] <navarone> korhalf...I have Linux desktop reference from my mandrake days
[10:04] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, ifconfig
[10:04] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thanks
[10:04] <_jason> JFlash, then it should be in your home directory
[10:04] <lowman> wookie ifconfig
[10:04] <korhalf> navarone, mandrake? whew, i was fortunate to stay away from that distro
[10:04] <JaZyLNX> okay added user
[10:04] <Jemt> How can I make firefox, thunderbird and Eterm take arguments under Preferred Applications? When I click a link, Firefox 1.5 starts but dosn't display the website. The same is the case with Eterm.  I want to install win98 on a smaller partition you see
[10:05] <JFlash> _jason, it worked. thank you so much!!
[10:05] <h4x> i think the gnu-darwin project link is down. For my dillo download. If im dl'ing the right package
[10:05] <_jason> JFlash, np
[10:05] <navarone> sonare...gpartted...but back up data first...and defrag windows
[10:05] <lucasvo> who is managing ubotu?
[10:05] <korhalf> ppl still run win98?
[10:06] <cmatheson_> navarone: sonare : don't bother defragging it's not necessary w/ gparted
[10:06] <korhalf> !ubotu
[10:06] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:06] <h4x> cuase im still lost. I see NO ubuntu package. just debian, darwin, RPMS, slackware,betbsd
[10:06] <navarone> cmatheson...better safe than sorry
[10:06] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, try http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/ and let me know if this helps
[10:06] <sonare> navaron: will i need to run fixGrub (or whatever) after a win98 install?
[10:06] <cmatheson_> navarone: it's not going to help you it's just going to waste time
[10:06] <dooglus> _oP: use "sudo lsof /dev/dsp"
[10:06] <vr^> can archive manager extract ISO files?
[10:06] <_oP> @dooglus yes, then i get no output
[10:07] <SweetestSavage> Ooh, wow, a lot of commands. Yes, that helps, thanks very much =)
[10:07] <dooglus> _oP: that means no process is using /dev/dsp then
[10:07] <cmatheson_> vr^: if not just do 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 some.iso /mnt'
[10:07] <lucasvo> korhalf: I need to talk to the owner, there isn't any nick on the wiki page
[10:07] <navarone> sonare...I would make a linux boot disk to get grub back installed in mbr afterwards if you need
[10:07] <dooglus> _oP: try it again while playing some music
[10:07] <_oP> why is there no sound in quake 3 then?
[10:07] <korhalf> lucasvo, what?
[10:07] <_oP> i am
[10:07] <_oP> playing music
[10:07] <vr^> cmatheson_: thanks
[10:07] <_oP> with arts
[10:07] <nicholaspaul> SweetestSavage, you're welcome. I'm glad to be of help!!!!!!!
[10:07] <korhalf> lucasvo, the guy who wrote the bot? maybe Seveas
[10:07] <_oP> xmms and arts output plugin
[10:07] <nicholaspaul> cos i wouldnt want to be trolling and not help anyone..
[10:08] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, dont start.
[10:08] <nicholaspaul> :-)
[10:08] <nicholaspaul> dont jump to conclusions. :-)
[10:08] <Agedec> Hey, how do i play .wmv movies?
[10:08] <nicholaspaul> Agedec try Xine.
[10:08] <SweetestSavage> =)
[10:08] <cmatheson_> Agedec: i like to use mplayer
[10:09] <concept10> how do I complety uninstall KDE or the kubuntu-desktop?  kcontrol is screwing with my gnome themes
[10:09] <korhalf> mplayer plays anything
[10:09] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: do you know about "man -k"?  if you "man -k network" it will show you a list of commands related to networking
[10:09] <Agedec> ok
[10:09] <Agedec> thanks
[10:09] <nicholaspaul> oh wait...I used Xine for AVI i'm not sure if it plays wmv
[10:09] <korhalf> concept10, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[10:09] <SweetestSavage> Ah, yes I do know about the manual command =)
[10:09] <cmatheson_> concept10: use the program you installed kubuntu-desktop to remove (purge) it
[10:09] <hoooyt> register 1234569<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:09] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, it does if you have the w32 codecs in the right path
[10:09] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, you'll likely need the right codecs
[10:09] <Agedec> codecs?
[10:09] <nicholaspaul> exactly, korhalf
[10:10] <navarone> Okay I am off for a bit...cya alll
[10:10] <korhalf> Agedec, indeed.
[10:10] <korhalf> Agedec, go to mplayerhq.com
[10:10] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, the 'drivers' for playing difft video types.
[10:10] <korhalf> Agedec, get the essential package at least, and then follow the directions on where to extract
[10:10] <h4x> i'll check back here later, when i can get some help
[10:10] <h4x> bye
[10:10] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, Do you have a copy of Windows?
[10:10] <Agedec> no i dont
[10:10] <h4x> i'll stick with my firefox 88bc version
[10:10] <Agedec> my dad does tho
[10:10] <Agedec> does that count :D
[10:10] <Agedec> lol
[10:10] <korhalf> Agedec, you can always wine windows media player
[10:10] <concept10> cmatheson_, that doesnt work - do you mean purge it?  that only uninstalls the meta-package (kubuntu-desktop) not the dependencies
[10:11] <nicholaspaul> Agedec - thats prob good enough yea. Just for the license agreement that allows you to use w32codecs.
[10:11] <cmatheson_> concept10: did you use aptitude?
[10:11] <nicholaspaul> - somethign like that.
[10:11] <korhalf> Agedec, but wmv files play better on mplayer then they do on native wmplayer on windows
[10:11] <_oP> ------- sound initialization -------  Received signal 11, exiting...
[10:11] <concept10> korhalf, will that screw with opera?
[10:11] <_oP> ahhhh
[10:11] <Hal9000> hi!
[10:11] <lowman> SweetestSavage: you can also hit any letter on the keyboard then press tab and it will show you every command that starts with that letter. Then, use ...$> whatis <command-name> to find out what it is. :)
[10:11] <korhalf> concept10, im not sure, i just know you get rid of all the kde crap that uses the qt libs..
[10:11] <nicholaspaul> Hal9000, morning/evening
[10:11] <concept10> cmatheson_, lemme try with aptitude
[10:11] <Hal9000> does the 2.6.15 kernel source package already include the .config file used to compile the packaged images?
[10:11] <korhalf> concept10, i dont think it will, you can grep the dependancy list and see if opera will be removed by accident
[10:12] <_oP> someone know how i start or if quake 3 will start with jack sound server?
[10:12] <Hal9000> in other words, i want to use the 2.6.15 kernel in breezy, whats the best way to do this :)
[10:12] <cmatheson_> concept10: it probably won't work unless you installed w/ aptitude
[10:12] <concept10> korhalf, im not sure, but I think opera depends on that
[10:12] <Agedec> what one do i download, and can somone walk me through building it --never done it before
[10:12] <Hal9000> the image package complains about dependencies, i could install the source package though
[10:12] <wookie_boy> anyone got a sec for a complete non groker?  I can't get my screen res above 800x 600 someone told me to edit my xorg.conf file from ati to something.... any ideas?
[10:12] <Madeye> guys, I'm using my laptop at home lan and wlan, and office lan and wlan, and cafes wlan, I need a better network manager to switch easily? DNS stuck with gnome network manager, and the HEX for wlan stuck so I have to write down DNS for all places same for HEX's
[10:12] <korhalf> chris@plexis:~$ whatis that
[10:12] <korhalf> that: nothing appropriate.
[10:12] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: no, but if you install the binary then you can copy it from /boot/config-2.....
[10:13] <_jason> Agedec, just get the w32codecs
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thanks lowman
[10:13] <_jason> ubotu, tell Agedec about w32codecs
[10:13] <nicholaspaul> wookie_boy, sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick
[10:13] <lowman> yw :)
[10:13] <korhalf> hey h4x...0r
[10:13] <nicholaspaul> wookie_boy, hit SPACE to select extra resolutions
[10:14] <wookie_boy> k Ill try it
[10:14] <h4x> hey korhalf
[10:14] <nicholaspaul> wookie_boy, cool.
[10:14] <Jemt> I need a program that can record what is happening on my screen. Actually I want it to record a running screensaver. Is that possible?
[10:14] <concept10> korhalf, ah yes, that removes alot, thanx
[10:14] <korhalf> concept10, no problem
[10:15] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: how can i install the binary then? without all those complaints for broken dependencies?
[10:15] <korhalf> YES after 4 hours of Co op here
[10:15] <korhalf> i cant wait to get home
[10:15] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: what broken dependencies?
[10:15] <nicholaspaul> Jemt, I've looked into that. I would try googling - its too complex a question for IRC. From what i found out its more than just apt-get'ing an app!
[10:15] <korhalf> i installed a bug tracking CRM program called vTiger and it took so damn long to configure Mysql apache and PHP together
[10:15] <concept10> Even though I have a decent setup, I want to optimize my system.  Get rid of this cruft and daemons I dont need
[10:15] <Jemt> nicholaspaul: Ok. Thanks
[10:15] <korhalf> sugarcrm is trash, doesnt even have reporting tools
[10:16] <wookie_boy> nicholadpaul: dpl-reconfigure: command not found
[10:16] <nicholaspaul> Jemt,  I know i say 'GOOGLE" alot, but honestly its youre best bet.
[10:16] <nicholaspaul> wookie_boy, thats dpkg, not dpl
[10:16] <korhalf> concept10, yeh just check the services that start up by default on boot, System>administration>services
[10:16] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: i have breezy, but want the 2.6.15 kernel from badger as it supports my tv card...
[10:16] <Hal9000> it doesnt work on 2.6.12 unfortuantelly :(
[10:16] <korhalf> concept10, uncheck the ones you don't need, as long as you know what they do
[10:16] <wookie_boy> gotcha...
[10:16] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: have you tried installing the package? does it depend on stuff you don't have?
[10:16] <korhalf> h4ck3r, and h4x
[10:17] <_oP> why?` ahh haha damn
[10:17] <h4x> good day
[10:17] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: even if you can't install it you should be able to download it, extract it, and then pull the config-????? file out of it
[10:17] <h4ck3r> Hey guys, I have a problem with ubuntu I install gstreamer but when I try and log back in it gets stuck at just a brown screen (I install it so I can have mp3 support)
[10:18] <korhalf> how does gstreamer break X?
[10:18] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: ok, how do i extract it?
[10:18] <h4ck3r> it doesn't break
[10:18] <_jason> h4ck3r, only after installing gstreamer? that's all you did and it worked before?
[10:18] <h4ck3r> it
[10:18] <korhalf> zion_, zion i, true and livin
[10:18] <nicholaspaul> raphink - I'm the last one to tell someone which app to use, but I've had better luck with XChat than with Konversation
[10:18] <h4ck3r> gstreamer just is making it so that I can't log in
[10:18] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: dpkg -x? i'm not completely sure... check out man dpkg
[10:18] <h4ck3r> x is working fine
[10:19] <h4ck3r> I think
[10:19] <korhalf> h4ck3r, how do you know if you don't even have a display?
[10:19] <korhalf> h4ck3r, can you press ctrl + alt + f2 to get to a terminal at least
[10:19] <korhalf> h4ck3r, check if gdm is running
[10:19] <raphink> nicholaspaul: are you sure you're talking to me?
[10:19] <nicholaspaul> Hal9000: heres a risky proposition.. have you considered upgrading to Dapper? (and yes I know how wobbly it is>
[10:20] <nicholaspaul> raphink - didnt you just logout because Konversation quit?
[10:20] <mcphail> Jemt: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[10:20] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: unless you're developing dapper i wouldn't recommend upgrading at this point
[10:20] <corresponder> ole
[10:20] <h4ck3r> I can get to the login screen fine it fails after I type in my username and password (it fails to login it just changes to a brown screen like the one just before the little window pops up with the icons telling you what is starting up
[10:20] <korhalf> you guys cant wait till april or something?
[10:20] <nicholaspaul> Hal9000, I'm running Dapper on PPC and it seems to be ok, altho i'm not using it everyday.
[10:21] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, not for PPC wifi, no.
[10:21] <korhalf> h4ck3r, i see.
[10:21] <_oP> just tried to start quake 3 with artsdsp -m with out xmms running same error
[10:21] <raphink> nicholaspaul: so what?
[10:21] <cmatheson_> h4ck3r: check you ~/.xsession-errors (and change your nick name it's a pain to type mwahaha)
[10:21] <Hal9000> nicholaspaul: never, breezy works fine i dont wanne mess too much :)
[10:21] <korhalf> yeh it is
[10:21] <h4ck3r> oh ok
[10:21] <nicholaspaul> raphink - I'm just recommending XChat over Konversation, thats all. No worries :-)
[10:21] <korhalf> i have to stretch over to the 4
[10:21] <raphink> if you're on gnome sure nicholaspaul
[10:21] <nicholaspaul> Hal9000. Oh ok.
[10:21] <korhalf> nicholaspaul, im recommending irssi over all, even though im using xchat right now :(
[10:21] <nicholaspaul> raphink I'm on Fluxbox.
[10:21] <h4ck3r> how do I change it
[10:22] <raphink> nicholaspaul: good for you, I'm on KDE
[10:22] <korhalf> h4ck3r, you type /nick newname
[10:22] <h4ck3r> thanx
[10:22] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, Yea i've heard people recommend irssi.  I couldnt get on with it tho.  Thats nice. I use KDE too.
[10:23] <argoth> has anyone else had this problem I have had it on 2 computers that did exactly the same thing
[10:23] <raphink> nicholaspaul: when there's an Xchat based on Qt I'll use it
[10:23] <raphink> maybe
[10:23] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, when desktops are cheaper than hardware that makes a lot of sense :)
[10:23] <SweetestSavage> Anyone know of a good FTP client for GNOME?
[10:23] <raphink> but I like konversation
[10:23] <raphink> I've used xchat for years
[10:23] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: time make-kpkg kernel_image, correct?
[10:23] <raphink> but I prefer konversation
[10:23] <raphink> that's it