[17:37] <akgraner> Pics of Banners and table cover are on my facebook page I'll blog later on about it...I've started a conference box - and I'll pass it to holstein soon :-)
[18:12] <BugeyeD> akgraner: niiiiiice!
[18:13] <akgraner> :-)  Thank Canonical  All approved loco teams get a banner and table cover :-)
[18:13] <akgraner> we'll be all professional yet
[18:17] <BugeyeD> i can't believe you just said that.
[18:17] <BugeyeD> to me.
[18:20] <akgraner> :-)
[18:21] <akgraner> I meant to say we'll look all professional - but you know what I meant
[18:21] <akgraner> I hope anyway :-)
[18:29] <BugeyeD> if i smirk, does that kill the professional look?
[18:31] <akgraner> nah just adds to it
[18:39] <BugeyeD> ahh. i'll have to work on my professional-looking smirk then.
[18:44] <akgraner> hehe too funny


[03:29] <paradizelost> hey all, i'm trying to get x11vnc running on :0 through xinetd, any recommendations?
[03:30] <paradizelost> everything i'm finding wants me to install lightdm or gdm
[03:31] <paradizelost> !x11vnc
[03:41] <lickalott> Gents, trying to mount an NFS share from my ubuntu server to a windows 7 laptop.  Installed the M$ NFS client add-on but can't seem to get it to mount. Anyone have any experience with this?  google is failing me.
[03:44] <lickalott> btw: i get "Error connecting to NFS WMI provider" when trying to use the NFS interface that comes with MS
[04:22] <brianp1992> how do i use swat to config samba so i can share my /media/share as a windows share i can acess anywhere on my network
[04:55] <Portaljacker> hi, i need some help with apache and ftp
[04:55] <Portaljacker> i installed lamp using task-sel when root was my only user, now i have a user in the admin group and when i use ftp and navigate to /var/www i can't add files or change the permissions
[04:57] <ffunenga> root was your only user? are you using ubuntu server 12.04?
[04:57] <Portaljacker> yes
[04:58] <Portaljacker> i have a vps
[04:58] <Portaljacker> not only user
[04:58] <Portaljacker> it had the other default ones
[04:58] <Portaljacker> i made the user portaljacker and put it in the admin group pretty quickly
[04:59] <Portaljacker> had to create the admin group then enable sudo priviledges
[04:59] <Portaljacker> but i did it
[05:01] <ffunenga> have you tried adding portaljacker to the sudo group?
[05:01] <Portaljacker> it is
[05:01] <Portaljacker> i sudo often :P
[05:02] <Portaljacker> root seems to be the owner of www
[05:02] <KM0201> well, sudo'ing when not necessary is just as bad as running everything as root
[05:03] <Portaljacker> i know
[05:03] <Portaljacker> but when i go in on ftp i can't upload to the www folder
[05:03] <Portaljacker> which i sort of need to do to edit a website
[05:03] <Portaljacker> or even put one up
[05:04] <Portaljacker> i was told in #ubuntu that www-data becomes the owner when it runs and accesses www?
[05:04] <Portaljacker> does that mean i need to add the user i log in to ftp with into the www-data group?
[05:05] <ffunenga> I dont think thats the right way... how are the permissions in the "ls -l /var/www"
[05:07] <Portaljacker> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 237 Aug 24 02:40 index.html
[05:07] <Portaljacker> but i had to create that file with sudo
[05:07] <Portaljacker> no other way
[05:08] <ffunenga> actualy, I think I would try something like "chown -R portaljacker:portaljacker /var/www" and then from there give permissions to the group
[05:08] <Portaljacker> portaljacker@yuki:~$ ls -l /var | grep www drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Aug 24 03:24 www
[05:08] <Portaljacker> portaljacker@yuki:~$ ls -l /var | grep wwwdrwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Aug 24 03:24 www
[05:08] <Portaljacker> portaljacker@yuki:~$ ls -l /var | grep wwwdrwxr-xr-x2 root root  4096 Aug 24 03:24 www
[05:08] <Portaljacker> derp
[05:08] <Portaljacker> portaljacker@yuki:~$ ls -l /var | grep www drwxr-xr-x
[05:09] <Portaljacker> 2 root root  4096 Aug 24 03:24 www
[05:09] <Portaljacker> whoops
[05:09] <Portaljacker> the line split is after grep www
[05:13] <ffunenga> maybe something like: "chown -R portaljacker:admin /var/www ; chmod g+rxw /var/www"
[05:14] <Portaljacker> what does the first part do exactly? i know the second part sets the permissions of the group to rxw
[05:18] <ffunenga> the first part changes the owner and group of the directory . maybe you should try the second command, then try the ftp upload, then the first command
[05:20] <Portaljacker> the group in the second command is the group of the current user? or the owner of the directory?
[05:21] <Portaljacker> did the second command then logged in on ftp and could not create a directory
[05:22] <ffunenga> ok wait
[05:22] <ffunenga> now you have "ls -l /var/www" ->  drwxrwxr-x
[05:23] <Portaljacker> yes, shows that in the ftp client
[05:24] <Portaljacker> that command doesn't give that output
[05:24] <Portaljacker> it shows the permissions of the files in www
[05:24] <Portaljacker> but not of www
[05:24] <ffunenga> I'm not sure about this but, try "sudo useradd -G www-data portaljacker"
[05:24] <Portaljacker> that adds portaljacker to www-data?
[05:24] <ffunenga> yes, that adds your user to that group
[05:25] <ffunenga> wich is the group any webserver uses to access /var/www
[05:25] <Portaljacker> useradd: user 'portaljacker' already exists
[05:26] <Portaljacker> i think i'll just use webmin to add portaljacker to the group
[05:27] <Portaljacker> nope
[05:27] <Portaljacker> couldn't create the directory with ftp
[05:29] <Portaljacker> so now what?
[05:30] <ffunenga> maybe you should create a folder in your home folder
[05:31] <ffunenga> and tell apache to publish from folder
[05:31] <ffunenga> (that apache's config  is made at /etc/apache2/...)
[05:32] <ffunenga> btw, do not forget to reverse the permissions "chmod g-w /var/www"
[05:32] <Portaljacker> i guess i could just do that first part
[05:33] <Portaljacker> making my user the owner of the folder?
[05:34] <Portaljacker> or i could log into ftp as root, what's the worst that could...i can't finish that sentence without imagining my server as a pile of ashes
[05:34] <anotheruser> +1 for ffunenga solution
[05:34] <Portaljacker> ya but there should be a way for it to work from www
[05:34] <Portaljacker> that's how it's made to work in the first place
[05:35] <Portaljacker> i'm not the first to ever do this
[05:35] <Portaljacker> it's not exactly extraordinary to put your website in /var/www
[05:36] <anotheruser> i missed the beginning of the question, but as soon as you want to host several websites, for several users, better to put them in the home folder of said users
[05:36] <Portaljacker> which is why i'm wondering why it's so damned hard to upload a file into that folder via ftp
[05:37] <ffunenga> have you thought about using ssh?
[05:37] <Portaljacker> i do
[05:37] <anotheruser> sftp?
[05:37] <Portaljacker> this doesn't eliminate the root issue
[05:37] <Portaljacker> root owns that folder
[05:37] <Portaljacker> which is apparently good
[05:37] <anotheruser> if you just give the whole var/www folder to www-data, and log in as www-data, should work probably
[05:38] <Portaljacker> but that means i can't edit files without root access
[05:38] <Portaljacker> it should
[05:38] <Portaljacker> but i've heard that it's bad :P
[05:38] <Portaljacker> one sec
[05:38] <Portaljacker> http://serverfault.com/questions/69685/what-user-should-own-var-www-on-ubuntu-9-04-server
[05:39] <anotheruser> well
[05:39] <anotheruser> that's true
[05:39] <anotheruser> but then , you can just give the folder to *any* user you create
[05:39] <anotheruser> as long as it's not root, it won't be a security issue
[05:40] <Portaljacker> that answer says to make the owner root:newgroup
[05:40] <Portaljacker> and add the users that need access to that group
[05:41] <anotheruser> i still prefer ffunenga solution, anyway :p
[05:41] <Portaljacker> of making a whole different folder?
[05:41] <anotheruser> Portaljacker, if you make root::newgroup
[05:41] <anotheruser> you have to change permissions too
[05:42] <anotheruser> (what are the current permissions on your /var/www ?)
[05:42] <Portaljacker> 755
[05:42] <anotheruser> so of course you can't create anything as the group
[05:43] <anotheruser> (5 is rx, you need the write too)
[05:43] <Portaljacker> so only the direct owner can write unless it's 775
[05:43] <anotheruser> yes
[05:44] <Portaljacker> so i guess i should make portaljacker:admin the owner and get it over with :P
[05:44] <ffunenga> yes. "chmod 775 /var/www ; chown -R root:newgroup /var/www"
[05:44] <Portaljacker> though i guess there's no downside to 775 over 755?
[05:44] <anotheruser> it just means that the group can write
[05:45] <anotheruser> if you trust all the users in the group, no problem
[05:45] <Portaljacker> and if i limit the group to one user (+root of course) it's not much of an issue?
[05:45] <anotheruser> yes, no problem at all then
[05:45] <Portaljacker> ok
[05:45] <Portaljacker> well, now i can finally set up wordpress XD
[05:46] <Portaljacker> root is always in every group right?
[05:48] <ffunenga> no
[05:48] <Portaljacker> woot, blog subfolder successfully created!
[05:48] <Portaljacker> ?
[05:49] <ffunenga> check "id root"
[05:49] <ffunenga> nice ! :) lol
[05:49] <Portaljacker> so root is part of only root
[05:49] <Portaljacker> ?
[05:49] <Portaljacker> but then why can i say root:newgroup without adding root to the group?
[05:51] <anotheruser> btw, since you weretalking about the effects of potential security flaws
[05:51] <anotheruser> one additional advantage of using custom folders for your website is that an attacker can't predict the path of your files on the server
[05:52] <ffunenga> Good question... I guess the owner and the group of the files are independent. I'm checking that hypothesis now
[05:52] <anotheruser> i mean, if for some reason the attacker gets the possibility to read a file (as it happened to my server yesterday thanks to phpmyadmin)
[05:52] <anotheruser> then he just has to open /var/www/config.php or some other sensible file and it's over
[05:53] <Portaljacker> how did he get to the point of being able to see the file?
[05:53] <anotheruser> if the file is in /home/myuser132424/my_strange_var_www_folder/config.php, it's harder to get
[05:54] <anotheruser> well, 4 security flaws in phpmyadmin that aren't fixed in ubuntu 10.04 LTS package...
[05:56] <Portaljacker> lovely
[05:57] <Portaljacker> so he could see your filesystem?
[05:58] <Portaljacker> couldn't he just search your file tree at that point for config.php?
[05:59] <anotheruser> just search
[05:59] <anotheruser> he couldn't see the filesystem
[05:59] <anotheruser> it's actually funny to see in the logs all the files that he tried to read at random
[06:01] <Portaljacker> so he basically had to guess your filesystem
[06:01] <Portaljacker> lol
[06:01] <Portaljacker> i get the point
[06:02] <Portaljacker> i could always be crazy and make my www folder a git repo
[06:02] <Portaljacker> then i could just blow away the whole thing with a reclone
[06:04] <anotheruser> i'm not sure what exactly a git repo involves
[06:05] <Portaljacker> it saves all the changes you've made since the last commit
[06:05] <anotheruser> but don't do anything that leaves files such as CVS folder or .svn files in your website folder
[06:05] <Portaljacker> oh ya
[06:05] <Portaljacker> ....
[06:05] <Portaljacker> same idea
[06:05] <anotheruser> that would be a huge security issue :p
[06:05] <Portaljacker> it would
[06:05] <Portaljacker> but then again
[06:06] <Portaljacker> they need my rsa password to affect the remote repo
[06:06] <anotheruser> i don't know how it works for git, but for cvs i think, i once saw a website that could be hacked in a few seconds because of that....
[06:07] <Portaljacker> well apparently the .cvs and .svn folders hold passwords
[06:07] <Portaljacker> but in git i always set it to use an rsa key to authenticate
[06:08] <anotheruser> still i don't think it's a good idea
[06:08] <Portaljacker> probably not
[06:08] <anotheruser> use a git repo for your website, and then do a checkout or whatever to get the working copy of the website
[06:09] <Portaljacker> ya
[06:09] <Portaljacker> like have the reop elsewhere
[06:09] <Portaljacker> and copy it into www
[06:09] <Portaljacker> repo
[06:09] <Portaljacker> and just copy everything but the .git folder
[06:09] <Portaljacker> heck i could do it over ftp
[06:09] <Portaljacker> though it would be slower
[06:09] <anotheruser> yeah something like that
[06:10] <Portaljacker> anyway, it's a bit late and i'm getting tired
[06:10] <Portaljacker> i guess i'll be installing wordpress later :P
[06:11] <anotheruser> careful with wordpress too
[06:11] <anotheruser> especially custom themes etc.
[06:11] <anotheruser> keep it well up to date and only use trusted sources
[06:14] <Portaljacker> i intend to do so
[06:14] <Portaljacker> thanks
[08:02] <Stapper> Hi I have some Questions regarding NFS... I now use samba to share, but i only have *nix machines is it better to switch to NFS?
[08:23] <dax_roc> Morning all
[08:24] <dax_roc> What would cause an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 to become unresponsive, it continues to run just all tasks seem to freeze for about 30 - 40 seconds at times ?
[08:25] <dax_roc> It's not a hardware issue as it's the same symptoms on 3 different servers.
[09:12] <progre55> hi guys. I was doing and apt-get update on one of my servers, and getting "invoke-rc.d: initscript resolvconf, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing resolvconf (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[09:12] <progre55> doing a google search shows some bugs with the same errors, but a bit unrelated
[09:26] <eutheria> i think i need a quick and dirty imap server to send test emails to, which would you guys recommend to use?
[09:35]  * _ruben slaps uvirtbot
[09:36] <soren> Yikes!
[09:36] <soren> That's a lot of new bugs :)
[09:37] <_ruben> I propose we just ditch nova, it's bug-ridden apparently! :)
[09:37]  * soren admits the mail host backing uvirtbot may have had a couple of rough days and is catching up.
[09:47] <progre55> so guys, any advice with resolvconf, please? I'm getting getting "invoke-rc.d: initscript resolvconf, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing resolvconf (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" while doing an apt-get update
[09:50] <_ruben> i'm guessing apt-get upgrade instead of apt-get update?
[09:51] <progre55> oh yeah, upgrade
[09:52] <progre55> and now the packages resolvconf is marked as crashed, and doing "apt-get -f install" throws the same error
[09:53] <progre55> here http://pastie.org/4579589
[11:25] <woozly> guys, how to change language for console info and other?
[11:25] <woozly> Error messages, Info messages..
[11:28] <reisi> woozly: see LANG, LC_ALL etc variables, locale (1)
[11:28] <woozly> reisi: thank you!
[11:29] <reisi> woozly: also there are language-pack-* packages
[11:29] <woozly> reisi: great! Thank you man!
[11:44] <patdk-lap> I can't believe how many people install stuff from my ppa, then email complaints
[11:45] <xnox> patdk-lap: i named my ppa "Danger do not use" and the email spam dropped off
[11:46] <greppy> xnox: did usage drop off as well?
[11:46] <xnox> greppy: that is irrelevant, I'm not paying the bandwidth =)
[11:58] <woozly> guys, where iptables config? I need to add rule to it
[11:58] <woozly> :/
[11:59] <woozly> or it disabled by default?
[12:00] <patdk-lap> it doesn't exist by default
[12:00] <patdk-lap> ufw exists, but disabled
[12:01] <woozly> oh... okay thanks!
[13:09] <KrizTmarK> hello any1 familiar to vpn
[13:13] <rbasak> !anyone | KrizTmarK
[13:38] <KrizTmarK> does any1 know the folder which the kernel on ubuntu is stored
[13:40] <genii-around> KrizTmarK: Usually in /boot
[13:46] <banyantree> Hey Guys =)
[13:47] <banyantree> i want to set up an email server. i need to set the ptr entry
[13:47] <banyantree> mx entry is already set
[13:47] <banyantree> does anybody know how to do this?
[13:50] <aheu> I maybe totally wrong but banyantree is this what you need -https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto#Reverse_Zone_File
[13:50] <banyantree> thx i will read it now
[13:51] <banyantree> hope its the right thing =)
[14:16] <Daviey> zul: Hey, nova, keystone, horizon and glance are all in the -proposed queue.
[14:16] <Daviey> zul: All bugs have a Precise task against them
[14:17] <zul> okies cool
[14:24] <njin> Hallo, I've got a machine running maas, then i create another one, run the cd, select install maas, setting everythings till it present the window where specify manually the name or the address, and another entry with maas (ip ddress) , but whatever i choose it request the name for this server (if blank maas assign it) and when hit enter it send sigkill or sigter and system poweroff. is this a bug ??(quantal) or I get wrong ?
[14:51] <tinyhippo> I've configured and tested ActiveDirectory authentication for my Ubuntu server, however, when I attempt to use sudo -i for an account which only exists on the server, and not in activedirectory - I get a message warning me that my password was incorrect (presumably, it tried to Auth against AD first) and then I become root (presumably when it auths against /etc/passwd /etc/shadow - any idea how to avoid getting thie Wrong Password ...
[14:51] <tinyhippo> ... message?
[15:23] <ninjai> how can I disable syslog?
[16:18] <Daviey> SpamapS: Hey, are you alive for the day?
[16:32] <SpamapS> Daviey: I am , whats up?
[16:43] <Daviey> SpamapS: hey, would you be able to sru review a few packages? :)
[16:44] <Daviey> SpamapS: One gotcha.. please can you not post the spammy comment from sru-accept into each bug please?
[16:44] <SpamapS> Daviey: Sure. I think slangasek is on shift today, but I can look too. :)
[16:45] <SpamapS> Daviey: spammy? Its informative, and, luscious.
[16:45] <Daviey> SpamapS: and mostly offtopic :)
[16:45] <Daviey> Dear Reporter who reported an upstream bug, please test our ubuntu packages kkthnx
[16:46] <Daviey> Precise, nova - keystone - horizon - glance. :)
[16:47] <Daviey> SpamapS: bug 1041120 is the meta-bug
[16:54] <SpamapS> Daviey: the reference to the reporter is just because we aren't sure who else to ask :) The rest is fairly important as it identifies the way we expect the packages to be tested. And the script that does that also maeks sure bug tasks are set right and such.. dunno if I feel like seaparating those two
[16:55] <Daviey> SpamapS: i can happily set the bug taks if you prefer?
[16:55] <Daviey> SpamapS: I just don't want to hijack bug reports TOO much
[17:03] <hallyn> stgraber: for lxc-start -d, i'm trying to decide how far to go.  i'ts trivial to just wait for 'running' state or 5 second timeout
[17:03] <hallyn> but if it immediately fails, we could catch that with a starting->aborting->stopping->stopped transtion,
[17:04] <hallyn> except that it's possible that the daemonized task starts after the container has already done all of those
[17:04] <hallyn> unlikely, but possible
[17:04] <hallyn> but i don't want to introduce a new api to have the container task wait to start starting until the daemonized task is ready for it.
[17:05] <hallyn> i suppose i can just declare it nigh-upon-impossible to have the container hit all those states before the daemonized task checks, and only handle the other cases
[17:06] <SpamapS> Daviey: how is that hijacking?
[17:07] <SpamapS> Daviey: also our report specifically looks for the comment to know when responses have come in.
[17:09] <Daviey> SpamapS: ok, do as you need.  It was just a request.
[17:11] <SpamapS> Daviey: noted that the comments are considered "spammy hijacking". You are the first to bring that to my attention. :p
[17:15] <Daviey> SpamapS: well, i could see why an upstream project might be sensitive to lotta downstream comments.
[17:16] <Daviey> and the downstream having the audacity to ask the reporter to test it, even if tey don't give two hoots about Ubuntu
[17:17] <hallyn> stgraber: well, the simple 'wait for running or timeout' is in lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/quantal/lxc/lxc-start-d-wait
[17:17] <SpamapS> Daviey: thats a fair concern. Perhaps we can just leave off the "Dear reporter" one
[17:25] <Daviey> SpamapS: ok, thanks
[17:27] <hallyn> stgraber: hm, looks like my subsequent pushes went to ubuntu:lxc
[17:27] <SpamapS> Daviey: also it just ocurred to me that we're not doing full verification on at least nova. Right? We're just doing regression tests and the CI lab?
[17:32] <Daviey> SpamapS: a little more than that, but yes.. not complete coverage.  For example, in the last one.. we included fixes for SUSE that doesn't impact us.
[17:32] <Daviey> There was scope for regression, but this is exactly why we are so involved with the upstream stable tree, to avoid these issues.
[17:33] <Daviey> As a testament, the last time we did this.. It was regression free.
[17:33] <stgraber> hallyn: change looks reasonable (looked at ubuntu:lxc)
[17:33] <SpamapS> Daviey: I'm just thinking its not so important to set all the bug statuses and tags if we're really just going to track the one master bug's status
[17:33] <Daviey> SpamapS: Note, the whole idea of doing this at upstream, rather than at pure distro level.. is something we conceived for upstream.
[17:34] <SpamapS> Daviey: you're preaching to the choir you don't have to convince me. :) I'm just thinking about the logistics
[17:34] <Daviey> SpamapS: right.. I'd be much happier to just set it Fix Committed.
[17:34] <Daviey> (which i have tooling to do already, if that is easier for you)
[17:34] <SpamapS> Daviey: it also needs verification-needed to help us know when its ok to send to -updates
[17:34] <Daviey> SpamapS: right, i can do that aswell if you prefer
[17:49] <LoT> what's the latest kernel for Precise servers?
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> LoT: 3.2.0 as it will be for the next 6 years
[18:15] <LoT> Psi-Jack:  do patches for bugs get applied to the kernel over time?
[18:16] <Psi-Jack> Security fixes and bugs, yes, there are patchlevels to the kernel Ubuntu provides.
[18:16] <LoT> also, would the Quantal kernel (after its released "stable") work on Precise (if I were to backport it)
[18:16] <Psi-Jack> i don't use backported kernels, ever.
[18:43] <Daviey> SpamapS: any traction on those SRU's?
[18:45] <SpamapS> Daviey: I just now cleared my table to look at them :-/
[18:45] <SpamapS> Daviey: I assume that this is high enough priority that its worthy of jumping in front of all the other SRU's waiting?
[18:47] <SpamapS> Daviey: so how about I jus spam bug 1041120 for all of them?
[18:47] <Daviey> SpamapS: Well, there is a significant calling for this SRU.
[18:48] <Daviey> SpamapS: spamming that one meta bug would be better IMO :)
[18:48] <SpamapS> Thats the only one that really will control the packages' progression into -updates
[18:48] <Daviey> SpamapS: i will keep close eye on that, and the others.. just incase.
[18:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: where is the testing plan for these bugs?
[18:49] <g0bl1n> hi, I installed nginx-full then removed it and deleted the /etc/nginx directory. Now doing an apt-get install nginx-full won't put the default configuration files there. Any hint ?
[18:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: err, s/bugs/updates/ ?
[18:50] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: thats intentional
[18:50] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: dpkg consideres a removed config file as something the administrator likely wanted
[18:50] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: apt-get purge nginx-full
[18:50] <g0bl1n> SpamapS: ahh, let me try ;-)
[18:50] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: that will reset dpkg's tracking of the config files (and remove ALL data and configs)
[18:51] <g0bl1n> SpamapS: I was doing a remove and autoremove. Not enough, ok
[18:51] <Daviey> SpamapS: So.. We will be doing a full burn in a lab.  I will put out a call for testing on upstream mailing list, and we've also had at least one partner offer to help test aswell
[18:51] <Daviey> So.. more coverage than the previous SRU had.
[18:51] <SpamapS> Daviey: isn't that written down somewhere?
[18:52] <SpamapS> somewhere I can link to.. :P
[18:52] <Daviey> SpamapS: yes
[18:52] <Daviey> hmm
[18:52] <Daviey> that might an isue for this moment
[18:53] <SpamapS> poor users will just have to trust good ol' Daviey's word ;)
[18:53] <SpamapS> Well as long as the results are documented I don't mind.
[18:53] <Daviey> fools!
[18:53] <Daviey> adam_g: do you know where that doc is?
[19:02] <SpamapS> ugh
[19:02] <SpamapS> the SRU queuediff script nearly crashed my browser opening all the nova bugs
[19:04] <SpamapS> Daviey: accepted all. UNLEASHE THE HOUNDS
[19:06] <g0bl1n> SpamapS:
[19:06] <g0bl1n> SpamapS:  still getting errors after the purge
[19:06] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: you may need to purge *all* of the packages that own files in /etc/nginx .. 'dpkg -S /etc/nginx'
[19:06] <LoT> SpamapS:  was 12.04.1 released?
[19:06]  * LoT seems to have missed 3 days fo announce emails, so....
[19:07] <dormito> I have a question about configure ssl certs for  a samba/ldap setup on an ubuntu server, is this the correct channel to ask it?
[19:07] <g0bl1n> SpamapS:  ah, nginx-common appeared. Purged. Now retrying
[19:08] <g0bl1n> SpamapS: well done thankyou. Worked
[19:14] <Daviey> SpamapS: thanks!
[19:20]  * SpamapS sometimes wonders if dpkg's conffile handling is really worth it
[19:21] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: yes, 12.04.1 was released yesterday
[19:21] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: and your PHP SRU is awaiting approval
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  ah, wonderful.  Thanks.
[20:52] <Daviey> SpamapS: Houston, we have a problem
[20:52] <Daviey> SpamapS: nova FTBFS, due to a debuild problem.
[20:52] <adam_g> Daviey: i think i know what it is
[20:53] <adam_g> did the others build okay?
[20:56] <Daviey> adam_g: yes
[20:57] <Daviey> adam_g: missing HCnageLog.. I am assuming you did a sdist from a tar checkout, rather than git tree?
[20:58] <adam_g> Daviey: no, in fact i didn't use sdist
[20:58] <adam_g> Daviey: but yea, that would have been autogen'd
[21:00] <Daviey> adam_g: Oh, then that is the error
[21:00] <Daviey> How come you didn't sdist?
[21:03] <adam_g> Daviey: wasn't sure how zul was cutting the previous tarballs, and whether upstream has merged any of the newer magic into sdist that makes the endproduct something much different than what we were shipping at 12.04
[21:04] <Daviey> adam_g: Ah, ok
[21:05] <adam_g> Daviey: but actually, sdist'ing it doesn't produce a ChangeLog either it seems
[21:06] <Daviey> adam_g: from tar or git co?
[21:06] <adam_g> Daviey: git
[21:06] <Daviey> oo-er
[21:08] <adam_g> Daviey: oh jeez, nvm. it does have it. my bad
[21:09] <adam_g> Daviey: whats best? adjust packaging on the current upload to exlude it, or upload a new tarball for proposed
[21:10] <Daviey> I'd think uploading a new orig.  SpamapS, what do you think?
[21:13] <Daviey> adam_g: I'd like to squeeze one more commit in aswell.. if you don't mind :)
[21:52] <adam_g> Daviey: what commit?
[21:52] <adam_g> Daviey: that'd make it easier, current versioning scheme makes it hard to bump the version
[21:54] <Portaljacker> do i need to install phpmyadmin for my website? or is it enough to have webmin for my server?
[21:55] <Portaljacker> lamp stack and going to install wordpress
[21:56] <Portaljacker> i'm stuck at the part to make the mysql database for wordpress
[21:57] <Portaljacker> and the interface of webmin is not making it obvious how to set it up correctly
[21:59] <Daviey> adam_g: I just landed two upstream
[21:59] <Daviey> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11813/
[21:59] <Daviey> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11597/ <-- needed
[22:00] <adam_g> k
[22:06] <anotheruser> Portaljacker, don't install the 10.04 phpmyadmin anyway, it's full of holes
[22:06] <Portaljacker> ok then
[22:06] <Portaljacker> well i assumed i could set up the mysql database in the webmin mysql module
[22:07] <anotheruser> i don't know webmin... i've used phpmyadmin, and the mysql command line
[22:07] <anotheruser> if you really want phpmyadmin, at least install the last version, and change its default path (then you should be ok)
[22:07] <Portaljacker> command line can work
[22:08] <Portaljacker> is the comand line tool easy enough to setup a new database?
[22:08] <anotheruser> it's reasonable
[22:09] <anotheruser> basically, you just run a CREATE DATABASE command
[22:09] <anotheruser> if you want user rights management, it's a bit more tricky
[22:09] <anotheruser> (then you need to read about the "grant" commands
[22:11] <Portaljacker> apparently this is sufficient :P
[22:11] <Portaljacker> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-create-a-mysql-database-and-set-privileges-to-a-user
[22:11] <anotheruser> yeah that's good enough
[22:11] <Portaljacker> this line seems odd to me
[22:11] <Portaljacker> grant usage on *.* to amarokuser@localhost identified by 'amarokpasswd';
[22:12] <anotheruser> it means amazokuser can connect, from localhost, with that password
[22:12] <Portaljacker> oh, and he can only connect to a db he's assigned to
[22:13] <anotheruser> usage is the most basic privilege
[22:14] <anotheruser> so yeah he can do nothing with it
[22:15] <anotheruser> The USAGE privilege specifier stands for “no privileges.”
[22:15] <anotheruser> here :p
[22:18] <Portaljacker> thanks


[05:22] <Laibsch> wgrant: this is not about support but about a malfunction of LP
[05:22] <Laibsch> I assume it was some recent code change that triggered this
[05:23] <Laibsch> Furthermore, I suspect it may have to do with the renaming of PPAs
[05:37] <ScottK> Laibsch: This still isn't the right channel.  You want #launchpad.
[05:37] <ScottK> Until Launchpad is open sourced, by definition what you have is a support discussion.
[05:39] <Laibsch> ScottK: Well, I'm not sure that the people who could actually do the support (and who are responsible for the release of likely broken code) are in that channel. So, what's the use?
[05:40] <ScottK> Your odds are better there than here.
[05:40] <Laibsch> "just let us freely introduce regressions and don't bother our peace for sake of channel discipline?"
[05:40] <Laibsch> "just let us freely introduce regressions and don't bother our peace for sake of channel discipline"?
[05:47] <ScottK> No, it's not a question of channel discipline, its a question of you asking where your odds are better.


[00:09] <oojah> I've a package that's not quite in Debian (reviewed a few times and should just need to be uploaded, alas). If I get it into Ubuntu via revu for Natty and for Debian for Natty+1 then am I right that the Debian package will effectively override the existing Ubuntu one?
[00:10] <micahg> oojah: it can, you still have 2 months to get the package in Debian before feature freeze though
[00:12] <oojah> micahg: I thought the important one was debian import freeze, which was 12 minutes by my reckoning.
[00:13] <micahg> oojah: no, that's jsut the automatic import of packages, manual syncs of new packages can be requested until Feature Freeze
[00:13] <oojah> micahg: Ah, my misunderstanding then.
[00:14] <oojah> Are there any docs on the criteria needed for manual syncs?
[00:18] <micahg> oojah: before Feature Freeze there aren't any
[00:18] <oojah> micahg: Okey dokey.
[00:18] <micahg> oojah: you can use requestsync from ubuntu-dev-tolls
[00:18] <micahg> *ubuntu-dev-tools
[00:18] <oojah> That's a great relief all round!
[00:19]  * oojah nods
[00:25] <bdrung> micahg: ubuntu-dev-trolls :D
[00:25] <micahg> bdrung: I was thinking that too
[00:26] <oojah> Good job I didn't install that one by mistake...
[01:12] <mase_wk> I managed to get around my ant problem by setting the build tool to autoconf in debian/rules
[01:12] <ari-tczew> nice
[01:14] <mase_wk> however now when i run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot i get this error
[01:14] <mase_wk> dh_auto_configure: ./configure --build=x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --includedir=${prefix}/include --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --infodir=${prefix}/share/info --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --libexecdir=${prefix}/lib/timber --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-dependency-tracking failed to to execute: No such file or directory
[01:15] <mase_wk> i really don't want the build system to actually build anything
[01:15] <mase_wk> but it seems you can't use buildsystem=none
[01:34] <mase_wk> if i use pbuilder i get "make: dh: Command not found"
[01:34] <mase_wk> however dh is installed and i can call it
[04:27] <mase_wk> ok well i am quite happy with myself. I am sure it's far from perfect, (but lintian doesn't complain ). I now have  a branch in my git repo which has only the debian dir in it. So if anyone wants to make an ubuntu / debian package they can ( from the master branch ) do a git branch package; git merge debian; debuild -S -uc -us; cd ../; sudo pbuilder build timber_0.70.dsc
[04:27] <mase_wk> and come out with a package
[06:40] <cdbs> bdrung:
[06:40] <cdbs> bdrung: oops, sorry, typed that by mistake, was giong to do a whois instead
[10:13] <cdbs> bdrung: :o When did you become DD?
[10:14] <sebner> cdbs: yesterday ^_^
[10:14] <cdbs> bdrung: Congrats!
[10:15] <bdrung> cdbs: thanks
[10:16] <sagaci> is there a tool to use that will foster real-time collaboration on code
[10:16] <sagaci> almost like teamviewer, I guess
[10:19] <hakermania> Hey, anybody knows the use of debian/compat ?
[10:20] <hakermania> It contains debhelper's version?
[10:20] <geser> it tells which debhelper version all the dh_* should "use"
[10:34] <dapal> hakermania: man debhelper, search for "Debhelper compatibility levels"
[10:35] <hakermania> dabal, geser: Thx
[10:36] <dapal> congrats bdrung :)
[10:36] <dapal> welcome aboard :)
[10:36] <bdrung> dapal: thanks
[10:53] <hakermania> Can anybody check if this debian/copyright is correct (using DEP-5): http://paste.ubuntu.com/548773/  Thx :)
[11:04] <bdrung> hakermania: it's not up-to-date: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file&rev=152
[11:05] <bdrung> hakermania: and "Files:" is missing
[11:06] <bdrung> hakermania: you should have two sections. one "Files: *" and one "Files: debian/*"
[11:09] <hakermania> bdrung: Thank you.
[11:14] <hakermania> bdrung: How about now?
[11:14] <hakermania> http://paste.ubuntu.com/548784/
[11:14] <cdbs> bdrung: I am packaging a package which uses AGPL-3. Should I paste the whole license text to the thing?
[11:14] <cdbs> bdrung: I mean, in the License: para
[11:16] <tumbleweed> bdrung: if it isn't in common-licences, you have to
[11:16] <bdrung> cdbs: only the agpl-3 header.
[11:16] <tumbleweed> err cdbs
[11:16] <cdbs> tumbleweed: the whole license? :o
[11:16] <cdbs> bdrung: it ain't in common-licenses
[11:16] <tumbleweed> cdbs: the code has to be shipped with the whole licence available
[11:16] <bdrung> not good.
[11:17] <cdbs> tumbleweed: Can we write: Refer to the COPYING file in the source root directory
[11:17] <tumbleweed> cdbs: COPYING isn't distributed in th edeb
[11:17] <cdbs> of course not
[11:17] <tumbleweed> so you can't
[11:17] <cdbs> tumbleweed: adding the dots (.) in place of empty lines would be a headache for such a large license
[11:18] <tumbleweed> cdbs: that's why you use an editor with automation ability
[11:18] <tumbleweed> :%s/^ *$/ ./ would do the job in vim
[11:20] <cdbs> thanks
[11:21] <bdrung> how long does the apport retracer take to retrace a core dump?
[11:21] <cdbs> tumbleweed: and I use vim
[11:21] <cdbs> :)
[11:30] <hakermania> bdrung: Is it OK now? :S http://paste.ubuntu.com/548784/
[11:31] <tumbleweed> hakermania: I'd suggest simply https://sourceforge.net/projects/wall-changer/ for source, or you'll have to change it on every new upsstream version
[11:31] <tumbleweed> hakermania: you can drop the "You should have received a copy..." paragraphs
[11:32] <bdrung> hakermania: i forgot that you are both. so you can drop the second paragraph (Files: debian/*)
[11:35] <hakermania> now it must be OK :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/548796/
[11:36] <tumbleweed> LGTM
[11:39] <hakermania> Cool.
[11:44] <bdrung> i fail to configure my ~/.mailrc. can someone help me? i want to set the from mail address
[11:48] <tumbleweed> bdrung: set from=foo? (can't say I send much mail with mailx...)
[11:49] <tumbleweed> you may of course need to tweak your MTA to allow from address spoofing
[11:49] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i tried: set<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:49] <bdrung> but it didn't work
[11:53] <bdrung> tumbleweed: do you know how to tweak the MTA?
[11:55] <tumbleweed> bdrung: start by seeing if that's the issue, by using sendmail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:02] <ari-tczew> how long is Debian frozen?
[12:02] <tumbleweed> bdrung: on my system I need to use set smtp=localhost (i.e. use localhost instead of sendmail) to get the from address to be set. It looks like mail doesn't pass -f to sendmail
[12:02] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: until it's ready
[12:03] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: I mean when it's started
[12:03] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: it was announced during debconf, early august
[12:05] <bdrung> tumbleweed: set smtp=localhost doesn't work, too
[12:06] <tumbleweed> bdrung: presumably your mta then, which one?
[12:06] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: ok thanks
[12:07] <bdrung> tumbleweed: postfix
[12:07] <tumbleweed> hmm, postfix should respect from address coming from mynetworks
[12:09] <bdrung> and i didn't changed anything in postfix
[12:33] <hakermania> :)
[13:17] <hakermania> New upload for package wallch: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch
[13:54] <xteejx> Hi all, quick question: What is the chances that vim will be updated to at least 7.3.075 before Natty release? Re bug 137854
[14:00] <bdrung> xteejx: it depends. ask the debian maintainer to update the package (in unstable or experimental) and then let's merge it.
[14:01] <xteejx> bdrung: File an update request report?
[14:02] <bdrung> xteejx: yes. "Please update vim to version XY"
[14:02] <xteejx> bdrung: Cool thank you :)
[14:03] <bdrung> and you could say: it will fix LP xxxxxx and yyyyyy
[14:03] <xteejx> No probs :)
[14:21] <ari-tczew> do you know any good software for editing patches?
[14:23] <bdrung> ari-tczew: apply the patch, edit the patched files, refresh the patch
[14:24] <ari-tczew> I use geany for reviewing patches, but there is no option to remove changes
[14:24] <ari-tczew> bdrung: you didn't get me. MoM adds a lot of .pc files and I have to delete them for patch
[14:24] <ari-tczew> manually work taking a lot of time
[14:24] <ari-tczew> s/for/from
[14:25] <bdrung> ari-tczew: maybe use debdiff to regenerate the patch?
[14:27]  * hakermania uploaded another wallch package because his description was quite loud, like an advertisement. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch
[14:28] <ari-tczew> hakermania: you don't need to comment on revu that you've uploaded new source...
[14:28] <ari-tczew> we can guess that you've followed with our advices
[14:28] <ari-tczew> and you pushed fixed version
[14:28] <hakermania> ari-tczew: Confirmation :D
[14:29] <hakermania> ari-tczew: Reminding :D
[14:29] <ari-tczew> bdrung: good point.
[14:29] <ari-tczew> now looks better
[14:30] <ari-tczew> bdrung: there is a MoM bug. package includes patches, but MoM diff shows changes to files directly also :/
[14:31] <bdrung> ari-tczew: MoM should be fixed.
[14:31] <ari-tczew> bdrung: should :P
[14:44] <ari-tczew> bdrung: or would be nice to have a plugin for software like gedit - remove lines from xxx to yyy
[14:44] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i dunno if gedit is the right place for it.
[15:49] <lfaraone> bdrung: congrats, re @d.o. Welcome to the madhouse. :)
[15:57] <hakermania> How does everybody know that bdrung become a DD ?
[16:01] <bdrung> lfaraone: thanks.
[16:02] <bdrung> hakermania: today i wrote a blog post.
[16:05] <ari-tczew> bdrung: really? congrats then!
[16:06]  * ari-tczew is pleased when core-dev is also DD. cheers to bdrung and quadrispros
[16:11] <bdrung> ari-tczew: yes, really. ;) look: http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vlc/news/20101229T221850Z.html
[16:15] <ari-tczew> can I use another way like debian/rules instead adding 99 patch?
[16:15] <bdrung> ari-tczew: for what?
[16:16] <ari-tczew> bdrung: lxpanel
[16:16] <ari-tczew> 99 patch causing add patch debian-changes-*
[16:17] <ari-tczew> bdrung: does this case mean that you're going to do more for Debian than Ubuntu? :>
[16:18] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i will go on with my "debian first" approach.
[16:19] <bdrung> ari-tczew: instead of 99-autotools.patch you could use dh-autoreconf
[16:20] <ari-tczew> bdrung: what do you think, is it better way than 99 patch?
[16:20] <ari-tczew> 99 patch always has to be updated
[16:20] <bdrung> ari-tczew: if the packages uses dh, using dh-autoreconf may be simpler
[16:21] <ari-tczew> bdrung: lxpanel uses dg
[16:21] <ari-tczew> dh *
[16:21] <bdrung> ari-tczew: then try dh-autoreconf
[16:22] <ari-tczew> bdrung: should it be first or after override_dh_auto_configure: ?
[16:22] <ari-tczew> I guess that 1st
[16:23] <bdrung> ari-tczew: something like dh $@ --with dh_autoreconf should work
[16:24] <ari-tczew> bdrung: does this change add also changes in files like 99 patch?
[16:24] <bdrung> ari-tczew: it runs autoreconf and cleans up in the clean target
[16:24] <bdrung> ari-tczew: you should drop the 99 patch
[16:24] <ari-tczew> yep I know
[16:30] <ari-tczew> bdrung: guess that should also B-D on dh-autoreconf right?
[16:31] <bdrung> ari-tczew: yes
[16:32] <ari-tczew> bdrung: fail. http://paste.ubuntu.com/548869/
[16:32] <bdrung> ari-tczew: man dh-autoreconf
[16:35] <ari-tczew> bdrung: yeah, fixed ;)
[16:53] <sebner> bdrung: does that mean it won't work with dh8?
[16:53] <lfaraone> bdrung: yay for debian first! :)
[16:54] <bdrung> ari-tczew: no, it'll work with dh 8.
[16:55] <ari-tczew> bdrung: hm?
[16:55] <sebner> bdrung: man dh-autoreconf says dh --with autoreconf $@ where debhelper8 uses dh $@ --foo
[16:55] <bdrung> was for sebner:
[16:56] <bdrung> ari-tczew, sebner: use "dh $@ --with autoreconf"
[16:56] <ari-tczew> bdrung: but lxpanel suses dh7
[16:56] <ari-tczew> uses*
[16:57] <sebner> bdrung: the manpage should have a note about that imho
[16:57] <bdrung> ari-tczew: dh 7 allows both orders, but dh 8 will be more strict
[16:57] <ari-tczew> Can't exec "autopoint": No such file or directory at /usr/share/autoconf/Autom4te/FileUtils.pm line 345.
[16:58] <ari-tczew> autoreconf: failed to run autopoint: No such file or directory
[16:58] <bdrung> ari-tczew: autopoint installed?
[16:58] <ari-tczew> bdrung: in pbuilder?
[16:58] <ari-tczew> B-D autopoint you mean?
[16:58] <bdrung> ari-tczew: b-d?
[17:01] <sebner> bdrung: dh-autoreconf recommends autopoint though
[17:37] <fat0ss> hello, I am new to ubuntu
[17:37] <fat0ss> and try to follow the instruction given on Motu page
[17:39] <fat0ss> I Installed the all development tools. and installing the ubuntu development release
[17:39] <fat0ss> am I on right track ?
[17:41] <ari-tczew> fat0ss: why not?
[17:43] <fat0ss> ari-tczew, I am asking because ..it was so easy like a "piece of cake"
[17:43] <ari-tczew> fat0ss: now you can go ahead with development
[17:44] <fat0ss> ari-tczew, my connection speed is not so good.. I think it will take few hours to download the development release
[17:45] <ari-tczew> fat0ss: perhaps
[17:46] <tumbleweed> hmm, postfix should respect from address coming from mynetworks
[17:46] <tumbleweed> grr, exceuse that
[17:47] <fat0ss> ari-tczew, after installing developer release..I can go directly to bug fixing ?
[17:47] <ari-tczew> fat0ss: yes. already you can go with bug fixing.
[17:47] <ari-tczew> !SRU | fat0ss
[17:53] <ari-tczew> bdrung: is it possible that --with autoreconf creates debian-changes-* ?
[17:53] <ari-tczew> or is it my fault?
[17:58] <ari-tczew> what is wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/548881/
[18:15] <tumbleweed> bdrung: syncpackage-681693 is ready for some review
[18:30] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: can you help me?
[18:37] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: looks like you left out the part where the failure happened
[18:37] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: I added dh $@ --with autoreconf
[18:37] <ari-tczew> now configure couldn't go ahead
[18:50] <hakermania>  /ping
[18:50] <hakermania> :/
[18:55] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: I mean the error happened before the lines you posted, it starts with "exit 1"
[18:55] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: as usual with configure, look in config.log
[19:01] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: config.log in pbuildeR?
[19:01] <tumbleweed> yes
[19:02] <bdrung> tumbleweed: i want online unittest for this branch.
[19:03] <tumbleweed> bdrung: I'll bet. I can probably do some offline testing too
[19:10] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: where is config.log in pbuilder?
[19:11] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: in th edirectory it's building in. Set up a hook to open a shell if the build fails (there's an example hook that does that)
[19:11] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: is it on wiki?
[19:11] <tumbleweed> in the package
[19:14] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: enjoy (I'm going out)
[19:14] <ari-tczew> heh, thanks
[19:29] <ari-tczew> fu** it, I'm not going finish it until new year
[20:48] <c_korn> how can I allow a package to overwrite a file from anotherpackage so I do not get the error: <package> tries to overwrite <file> which has already been installed by package <package>
[20:49] <Bachstelze> c_korn: ad a diversion on the ol package's version of the file with dpkg-divert
[20:49] <Bachstelze> add* old*
[20:51] <c_korn> ah, this seems to be what I want
[20:51] <c_korn> now I have to execute this at packaging time somehow
[20:51] <c_korn> does it go to postinst ?
[20:53] <Bachstelze> c_korn: actually, you have to be careful that the old package still works after that file is renamed
[20:53] <Bachstelze> otherwise, just make your package conflict with it
[20:54] <c_korn> hm, I will describe my problem more clearly:
[20:57] <c_korn> it is the game urbanterror. is has a data package urbanterror-data which has its own tarball. and now there is the package urbanterror which contains the game's executable. but now there is a version of urbanterror which has an improved exe and I want to package it as urbanterror-optimized. this also includes some optimized game files which are in the urbanterror-data package. now I add a conflict to the urbanterror  package and I also want
[20:57] <c_korn> the package to allow to update some of the game content which has been installed by urbanterror-data
[21:01] <Bachstelze> hmm
[21:02] <Bachstelze> I would make urbanterror-optimized replace urbanterror, and add a diverison for the files in urbanterror-data that create a conflict
[21:02] <Bachstelze> presumably, urbanterror-optimized doesn't need the old files anymore
[21:11] <c_korn> yes, do I have to do this in postinst?
[21:11] <c_korn> or is there a special config file
[21:11] <c_korn> like package.links


[16:52] <Seeker`> either init.d, or putting the command in the session startup stuff, so it is started when you log in
[16:53] <superm1> depends on what user you want it running as
[16:53] <superm1> but actually now that i remember, look at /usr/share/mythbuntu/session.sh
[16:54] <superm1> there is irexec loading logic already
[16:54] <superm1> you just need to spit something into a file in ~/.lirc and include that file in ~/.lircrc
[17:24] <Josh__> hmm.
[17:27] <Josh__> I just replaced my user's ~/.lirc/mythtv and did a symbolic link to ~/.lircrc and ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[17:28] <Josh__> but yesterday, when I wiped out ~/.cache and ~/.config , irexec stopped working.
[17:30] <Josh__> either way, I threw an irexec command into /etc/rc.local, that should be sufficiant.
[17:41] <darthanubis> hipitihop, that is not how you go about doing it
[18:50] <gunni> Does someone know which tables to import from my backup only for channel settings?
[19:27] <MythBork> has anyone had a problem where they assign a static IP by putting it into /etc/network/interfaces, yet the IP keeps getting reset by dhcp? Can anyone tell me how to stop that?
[20:14] <gunni> mrand: Any other idea on https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythtv/+bug/439163 What can i check to find the bug? For me (as an amateur) it sounds like its no mythtv, but some other karmic problem.
[20:16] <mrand> I'm an amateur regarding lots of stuff, especially DVB.  You said liveTV doesn't work after you revived your channels... does Recording a show work?
[20:18] <mrand> thinking aloud here: there may be a second bug related to liveTV.  I just don't know.  Please open a new ticket on that and capture backend (and maybe frontend) verbose logs (including -v playback,channel and probably others)
[20:19] <mrand> I've gotta run... I'll comment more later, or maybe someone else can help ya!
[20:38] <gunni> i attached a backend log to the bugreport
[20:43] <ToeBee> hmm is today's CD bootable again? :)
[20:45] <superm1> ToeBee, seems to still be broke
[20:45] <superm1> i just filed a bug about it
[20:45] <ToeBee> :(
[20:45] <superm1> bug 448981
[20:45] <superm1> i think that's the root cause of the problems
[20:45] <superm1> mrand, ^
[20:47] <ToeBee> oh wow, yes you *just* filed a bug
[20:47] <ToeBee> "filed 6 minutes ago"
[20:48] <superm1> i verified it on the ubuntu media too, so hopefully it will get more traction
[20:49] <ToeBee> interesting
[21:12] <mishehu> what do I have to do to get mythbuntu to auto-mount remote filesystems?
[21:13] <mishehu> I put an entry in fstab for it
[21:13] <superm1> that's it i thought
[21:15] <phillip> Hey guys...before I toss my HVR-1600 or my Nvidia graphics card...how does one increase the vmalloc in 9.10?
[21:15] <mishehu> superm1: rakdanit:/work/smbshare/MultiMedia      /home/myth/MultiMedia   nfs     rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14
[21:15] <mishehu> doesn't automatically mount at start-up
[21:16] <mishehu> is there a param I need to through in there?
[21:16] <superm1> maybe auto?
[21:16] <superm1> dunno
[21:16] <mishehu> hmm I'll try that
[21:16] <superm1> is this a 9.10 box?
[21:16] <mishehu> 9.04
[21:16] <superm1> oh okay nvm then
[21:16] <superm1> phillip, has the behavior changed from 9.04?
[21:17] <mishehu> in all my many years of running linux distros, I've never actually set a remote fs to mount automatically.
[21:17] <mishehu> so it's most likely something wrong with me :-)
[21:17] <phillip> this is a fresh install
[21:17] <phillip> should I revert back to 9.04?
[21:17] <superm1> na
[21:18] <superm1> a quick google says to add it to your kernel command line
[21:18] <superm1> so /etc/default/grub
[21:18] <superm1> and then run update-grub
[21:19] <phillip> right, but everything I can find for adding it to my kernel doesn't work w/ 9.10
[21:20] <superm1> is it not showing up on /proc/cmdline, or just not working properly?
[21:20] <phillip> i'm honestly not sure
[21:21] <phillip> i'm still soaking behind the ears when it comes to linux
[21:21] <phillip> but i do know that 9.10 is running grub2 and not grub....so most of the grub commands that i've found done apply
[21:22] <superm1> okay so open /etc/default/grub in an editor
[21:23] <phillip> give me 2 secs
[21:23] <superm1> change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash ARGS" where ARGS is whatever you need to do for vmalloc stuff
[21:23] <superm1> and then run "sudo update-grub" and reboot
[21:24] <phillip> So it'd be args would be replaced w/ vmallocs=521MB
[21:25] <phillip> dang it...now i've lost video
[21:29] <superm1> ah too bad
[21:33] <phillip> so the change should be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash vmalloc=512mb"
[21:34] <superm1> sounds right
[21:34] <superm1> assuming that is the right fix for whatever your problem is
[21:35] <phillip> from what I've read, there is a reoccurring conflict between nVidia graphics cards and the HVR-1600
[21:35] <superm1> you sure that it's still relevant with the kernel in 9.10 tho?
[21:36] <phillip> it's the only thing I can figure out...the errors sound exactly the same
[22:00] <sbak> Hi, I installed mythtv earlier this year and got it working with Firewire. I since rebuilt my box and am trying to get it working again. I can't find the source for Plugreport and plugctl
[22:00] <sbak> can someone please link me?
[22:01] <sbak> of course i googled it, but all i get is fourm posts. no source
[22:24] <sbak> Nevermind. Its apart of the libiec61883-dev package. I didn't grab the -dev package
[23:27] <Josh__> is there a way to permanently disable compiz on my myth frontend?