 privileges done
[17:27] <jphilips> irc to telegram bridge has been setup
 courtesy of me having the time/energy/knowledge to rapidly deploy ;)
 but yes, enjoy!
 and feel free to prod me on telegram (or teward on IRC), or email me via LP if something goes screwy :)
 *noted*
[17:31] <GunnarHj> jphilips: What does that mean? Will entries here be copied to Telegram and vice versa?
 yep
 everyone is now in one space and its all recorded by the irc bots as well
 same as the tester irc and telegram channels being bridged
[17:33] <GunnarHj> So that will give people a choice to use the preferred entry for participating in discussions. Sounds great. Thanks for doing that.
[17:35] <GunnarHj> jphilips: Btw, do you happen to know who is the operator if this IRC channel?
[17:35] <GunnarHj> s/if/of/
[17:36] <jphilips> GunnarHj: nope don't know
[17:36] <teward> not registered
[17:36] <teward> i can ask IRCC to claim it
[17:36] <teward> give someone ops
[17:36] <jphilips> the first person who got in would have given that privilege
[17:36] <jphilips> that would be great teward. thanks
[17:37] <GunnarHj> Thanks teward!
[17:37] <jphilips> the freenode topic was - #ubuntu-translators is: Welcome to the Ubuntu Translators channel! | List of Ubuntu Translation teams:  https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators | We use Launchpad Translations https://translations.launchpad.net |  Howtos, FAQ and Contact info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:38] <jphilips> i think it should likely be shortened
[17:40] <GunnarHj> jphilips: Maybe. I think the link to the teams is good to have, but unsure about the rest.
 https://github.com/ubuntu-turkiye-gonulluleri/rpi/blob/master/gpio.tr.md
 There is a community founded by me as volunteers in Turkey, and I translated this rpi article few minutes ago
[17:47] <jphilips> my suggestion: Welcome to Ubuntu Translators! | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations | Translation teams: https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators | Telegram: https://t.me/UbuntuTesters
[17:47] <jphilips> teward: can you set it?
[17:48] <teward> jphilips: E:NoOPS, Unit193's reestablishing the original ops list
[17:49] <jphilips> okay great
[17:49] <jphilips> GunnarHj: were you on that list?
[17:49] <GunnarHj> Nope.
[17:50] <jphilips> would be good to have you on it, as nobody else is in the channel
[17:50] <teward> the tricky evil part of that is IRCC is currently the only ones who can control that.
[17:51] <teward> topic set by Unit193 during initial setup
[17:55] <GunnarHj> teward: Any chance you can make this 'magic' happen also for #ubuntu-doc?
[17:56] <teward> oops the bot went WHEEEE
[17:56] <teward> *fixes*
 there we go
 yeah those two messages just sent at once
 lol
[17:57] <teward> GunnarHj: I can certainly try
[17:57] <GunnarHj> teward: TIA
[17:59] <teward> GunnarHj: was it an active channel?
[17:59] <teward> you can poke Unit193 directly BTW
[17:59] <teward> my magic is basically having Unit193 do their IRCC duty :)
[18:00] <GunnarHj> teward: I see. In which channel can I find Unit193?
[18:00] <teward> PM direct
[18:00] <teward> he's expecting a prod ;)
 I already asked him to make you OP GunnarHj
[18:01] <teward> also, #ubuntu-irc if you need to contact IRCC and IRC team :)
[18:01] <teward> GunnarHj: you're added as op both here and in -doc
[18:01] <teward> all glory to the IRCC!
[18:01] <teward> *goes to actually eat something since he's beyond hungry now*
[18:02] <GunnarHj> Thanks!
[18:02] <GunnarHj> * stuggling to understand what's happening *
[18:04] <ItzSwirlz> The extent of all I know is that the telegram group was shared in -quality telegram that seemed to be bridged so I just sorta joined here
[18:04] <ItzSwirlz> Also teward can you fix the title? It says Telegram is UbuntuTesters, iirc it should be t.me/UbuntuTranslators ?
[18:04] <teward> ItzSwirlz: E:NoAccess GunnarHj has access
[18:04] <ItzSwirlz> oh, oopsies
[18:04] <ItzSwirlz> GunnarHj: ping, fix telegram link in topic
[18:05] <ItzSwirlz> *grandfather clock in my brain starts going*
[18:05] <jphilips> guess i screwed up there :D
[18:05] <jphilips> should have been https://t.me/UbuntuTranslators
[18:06] <GunnarHj> ItzSwirlz: I'll try to find out how. ;)
[18:06] <ItzSwirlz> hold on ill give you the command if i know how to do it
[18:07] <ItzSwirlz> ./topic Welcome to Ubuntu Translators! | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations | Translation teams: https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators | Tekegram: https://t.me/UbuntuTranslators
[18:07] <ItzSwirlz> i believe this should be correct but I'm not an IRC smartie
 yep but without .
[18:08] <jphilips> presume without the dot at the beginning :D
[18:09] <GunnarHj> It told me I'm not a channel operator...
[18:10] <ItzSwirlz> oopsies, we'll get it fixed soon
[18:12] <GunnarHj> Congrats teward :)
[18:13] <teward> don't congrats me :P  just helping IRCC with getting certain bans in place
[18:13] <teward> it ain't perm ;)
[18:40] <GunnarHj> ItzSwirlz: Should be fixed now.
[18:43] <ItzSwirlz> it is, great8
 thanks for the help @ItzSwirlz
[18:43] <ItzSwirlz> yw


[00:00] <Flannel> This is all a gigantic circular reference at this point
[00:00] <Seeker`> "He was rushed by ambulance to a local medical centre, but his death was announced shortly afterwards."
[00:00] <Flannel> Like that wikipedia vandalism/self citation thing.
[00:01] <ikonia> well, bed time, the news has "drained" me ;)
[00:01] <Flannel> Heck, that title is even suspect: "Singer Michael Jackson 'is dead'"
[00:01] <Flannel> Why would you quote that if you had accurate reports?
[00:01] <Seeker`> BBC does that for all of their articles
[00:02] <ikonia> 23:59 -!- Kanappa<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [K-lined]
[00:02] <ikonia> fyi: I'll remove the ban
[00:02] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic Cornmuffin is Grenfell Traveler4
[00:04] <mc44> hello lovely operator friends!
[00:04] <Flannel> mc44: He was warned, I'm keeping an eye on him
[00:04] <bazhang> hi!
 eat shit and die like jackson k
[00:04] <Flannel> Er
[00:04] <mc44> he just pm'd me
[00:04] <Flannel> When did he say that?
[00:04] <Flannel> Ah
[00:06] <Flannel> mc44: Let us know if there's additional hostilities, thanks.
[00:06] <mc44> I won't be replying, so hopefully not ;p
[00:07] <Flannel> Right, we all hope not, but who knows.
[00:07] <mc44> It's ok, he'll probably not do anything for a few days until he gets banned again, for the 13th time
[00:07] <mc44> fun times!
[00:17] <tomaw> do we know what's doing that?
[00:17] <Flannel> Doing what?
[00:18] <tomaw> someone is dcc exploiting people in channels
[00:18] <tomaw> although he seems to have stopped
[00:38] <Flannel> ubottu: tell SeaPhor about away
[01:57] <bazhang> trolling in #k (joshua__)
[04:29] <Pici> I need to go relax, so I cannot watch #ubuntu now
[04:29] <tritium> Good evening.
[04:30] <Pici> We'll see ;)
[04:30] <Pici> goodnight
[04:30] <tritium> Good night, Pici.
[04:49] <tritium> Hi, Flannel.
[04:49] <Flannel> Howdy tritium
[04:50] <tritium> I flew through San Diego yesterday.
[04:50] <Flannel> connection at SAN? that's odd.
[04:51] <tritium> Yeah, no direct flights from ABQ to San Jose.  San Diego is one of the connections.
[04:51] <Flannel> Go figure.  What are you doing in SJ?
[04:51] <tritium> Business trip.
[04:51] <Flannel> OSCON and stuff aren't for a few weeks
[04:51] <Flannel> Ah
[05:03] <tritium> We need more ops for #ubuntu-us.
[05:06] <bazhang> whoa he was trolling there too?
[05:06] <tritium> yes
[06:22] <elky_work> been much celeb death trolling?
[06:23] <bazhang> minor, really
[06:23] <Tm_T> only one I have sen
[06:27] <Flannel> Howdy boredandblogging
[06:28] <boredandblogging> hi Flannel
[08:14] <jussi01> penisland... grant-a grow up... :/
[08:15] <Flannel> Sometimes I think we ought to have a "no talking for the sake of hearing yourself talk" clause.
[08:15] <Flannel> And that it'd solve a lot of our problems
[08:21] <jussi01> Flannel: haha
[08:33] <Flannel> Is Thursday night "lets be difficult because we can" night?
[08:50] <Myrtti> GUYS, can you take that discussion elsewhere? Flannel, ikonia?
[08:50] <ikonia> it's about to
[08:56] <topyli> Myrtti: nice touch
[08:57] <Flannel> Unfortunately, we can't !opsnack, since ubottu isn't +v
[08:57] <Flannel> eh, I suppose that can be fixed, but so much hassle.
[09:20] <Flannel> Hi ebel, how can we help you today?
[09:20] <ebel> I thought this might be for website ops.
[09:20] <ebel> Our (http://www.ubuntu-ie.org) website is down this morning.
[09:21]  * ebel was trying #ubuntu-loco, #ubuntu-ops :P
[09:21] <Flannel> Oh, hmm, I don't know where you'd go.  Try #ubuntu-locoteams
[09:21] <Flannel> and they'll likely know where to direct you
[09:21] <ebel> yeah think I'm making progress, thanks :)
[10:20] <jussi01> bollocks
[10:24] <bazhang> ?
[10:25] <bazhang> oh.
[10:33] <bazhang> who was the user who came in daily and said, 'another day, another epic Ubuntu fail'
[10:34] <Flannel> Referring to -bugs?
[10:34] <Flannel> Oh, no.
[10:34] <bazhang> #ubuntu Flannel
[10:35] <bazhang> joop12 seems to have replaced him, or is him
[10:35] <Flannel> Oh, he's in -bugs too
[10:35] <Flannel> !away > faildog
[10:35] <Myrtti> epic fail as a phrase isn't that uncommon
[10:35] <bazhang> Lim-somethine
[10:36] <bazhang> sure it's not, but entering that way was his signature
[10:37] <bazhang> Limcore
[10:38] <Flannel> I doubt its the same person
[10:45] <jussi01> meh
[10:46] <jussi01> who cares, if its a problem, we will deal with it, enough of the conspiracy theories...
[10:47] <jussi01> did I mention I hate ati?
[10:48] <bazhang> not a conspiracy theory, just pointing out his comments
[10:51] <jussi01> nah, you were suggesting that he was limcore, a known troll, that is the theory. lets stick to facts...
[10:51] <bazhang> pointing out the similarity, but whatever.
[11:12] <dikdik> sad news guys
[11:12] <dikdik> i learned today that the King of Pop has passed away :(
[11:13] <Myrtti> sad news, you're banned from #ubuntu
[11:13] <Myrtti> and if you were to enter that channel, that topic would be offtopic there
[11:14] <dikdik> where were you, myrtti, when you heard the terrible news?
[11:14] <Myrtti> dikdik: none of your business.
[11:14] <dikdik> did you see it on one of the screens in times square?
[11:14] <dikdik> were you standing on top of the eiffel tower with your lover?
[11:14] <Myrtti> dikdik: this is not a social channel
[11:15] <dikdik> perhaps you were relaxing on the beach, on a perfect summer day, when a loved one's tearful phone call conveyed the tragic news.
[11:15] <Myrtti> dikdik: go away
[11:16] <elky> seriously not in the mood for those morons.
[11:16] <elky> trolls with naughty idents.
[11:27] <ikonia> it's been a week of jerks to be honest
[11:27] <Mamarok> indeed
[11:31] <Flannel> On the flip side, we've had some good people as well.
[11:33] <ikonia> Flannel: yeah a few good ondes
[11:33] <ikonia> ones
[12:10] <bazhang> whoa an automatix request
[13:49] <Pici> I feel like setting up a trigger to autoban on lmgtfy links
[13:49] <Tm_T> do it, but don't blame me then (;)
[13:53] <Myrtti> Pici: you have my 100% support
[13:53] <bazhang> please do it.
[13:54] <Pici> I'll put it on hilight for now
[13:54] <bazhang> that drives me nuts
[13:57] <Pici> ugh, I just setup my hilight and a bunch of non-ubuntu channel windows have already hilighted me
[14:15] <ikonia> drubin: hi there
[14:15] <drubin> hi ikonia
[14:15] <ikonia> what's up ?
[14:15] <drubin> ikonia: Nothing just yet.
[14:16] <Myrtti> but....?
[14:16] <drubin> Is it ok to idle encase.
[14:16] <ikonia> in case of what ?
[14:16] <drubin> Ok enough is enough
[14:16] <drubin> just getting logs.
[14:16] <ikonia> ?
[14:16] <Myrtti> logs of what?
[14:16] <Pici> I'm confused.
[14:16] <Myrtti> !logs
[14:17] <drubin> wait.... is this the right channel to report abuse in an offical ubuntu channel
[14:17] <ikonia> drubin: sure yes
[14:17] <drubin> ikonia: Can you please please review #ubuntu-za
[14:17] <drubin> our opers are at work/afk
[14:17] <ikonia> ahhhh, #ubuntu-za is out of our control
[14:18] <ikonia> unless the CC / freenode staff can help
[14:18] <drubin> and chmj has been utterly disrespectful Vhata, a very helpful active memeber of our loco
[14:18] <drubin> not sure if is their place wither, unless swearing violate that
[14:18] <ikonia> no freenode or CC entries
[14:20] <drubin> ikonia: So what exactly is this channel for? Sorry little bit confused
[14:20] <ikonia> I've joined the channel, but without the operators being available there is no much we can do
[14:20] <ikonia> drubin: this is for the ubuntu main channels, no loco
[14:21] <drubin> ikonia: Thanks you don't have to join, if there isn't any thing you can/should do. I will wait to Highvoltage gets back from work...
[14:21] <ikonia> normally the loco guys hang out in #ubuntu-irc but yes, you'll need to catch the two operators for that channel
[14:23] <ikonia> drubin: if you join #ubuntu-irc rather than here you should catch them
[14:23] <drubin> ikonia: They are in there but afk :)
[14:23] <Pici> ikonia: Chances are if the ops are not active in the channel in question, they aren't going to be in -irc either.
[14:23] <drubin> yip
[14:23] <ikonia> Pici: true, but it's the proper place to contact them
[14:24] <drubin> still so confused the difference between #ubuntu-irc and -ops
[14:24]  * drubin leaves
[14:24] <Pici> drubin: #ubuntu-za does not have the Ubuntu IRC Council or freenode staff on its access list.   I told him you were an op and that no other op would do that.  I dont know what he wants or why, but apparently he is randomly messing people in channel trying to get them to do what he wants
[20:27] <nhandler> We might have an issue with wvdial in #ubuntu-motu.
[20:43] <ikonia> what's up ?
[20:43] <Pici> Sorry for not replying, but I've been watching.
[20:43] <ikonia> no need for apologies
[20:43] <ikonia> you're on it - it's cool
[20:48] <Pici> !yahoo
[20:49] <ikonia> don't put the bug in
[20:49] <ikonia> it links to all sorts of PPA fun
[21:15] <Pici> fyi. sun-flower in #freenode is the same as Guest21805 and svine. I really think that we shouldn't get involved though, he said he was banned from gentoo-chat and debian as well.
[21:15] <Pici> Pricey: ^
[21:15] <Pricey> I haven't looked it upt yet.
[21:16] <Pici> Pricey: I figured, just wanted to let you know that there was scrollback here to read.
[21:17] <Pici> I'm also going afk for a bit, so hopefully I won't be needed.
[21:18] <Pricey> @btlogin
[21:19] <ikonia> Pici: laters
[21:22] <Pricey> If someone can't change their nick, it means they're in a channel they can't send to most likely... going on the error svine originally reported.
[21:26] <Pricey> I do not see any reference to Ubuntu in this guy's ramblings?
[21:28] <Myrtti> Pricey: that's the thing. He rambled about non-Ubuntu issues in #ubuntu?
[21:29] <Pricey> We've had 3 ircc'ers weigh in on this.. he's not wasting any more of our time.
[21:29] <Pricey> I read logs.
[21:38] <Pricey> 20:37:38<EMAIL_ADDRESS>)] I think unix is good OS
[21:38] <Pricey> 20:38:03<EMAIL_ADDRESS>)] but you are doing everyone against people who want to use unix
[21:42] <Mamarok> !purekde
[21:42] <Mamarok> there is an error in that factoid link, they tell people to remove ubuntu-desktop to remove Gnome... that will never work, as it is a meta-package
[21:44] <Pricey> Tis a wiki.
[21:59] <Mamarok> yes, I know, but the instructions in this wiki are partly wrong, so
[22:28] <christel> elky: you nationalist you :(
[22:32] <tsimpson> Mamarok: aptitude will remove the packages
[22:33] <tsimpson> also: "That should show a large list of package to remove, just press y and enter to continue. If that doesn't remove all the Gnome packages then proceed to the manual removal section."
[22:34] <Mamarok> hm, I always thought that metapackages can be removed safely
[22:34] <tsimpson> with apt-get, yep
[22:34] <tsimpson> aptitude will remove unused packages
[22:35] <Mamarok> hm, I always thought aptitude to be safer than apt-get...
[22:36] <tsimpson> depends what you mean by "safer"
[22:36] <tsimpson> they are just different frontends to dpkg
[22:37] <Mamarok> well, I know it's a frontend of dpkg
[22:38] <Mamarok> but apt-get remove metapackage only removes the package, so it doesn't make sense to have different behaviour there, to me
[22:40] <tsimpson> basically aptitude will remove unused packages immediately, apt-get requires the autoremove command to do it
[22:40] <tsimpson> though it's probably configurable
[22:40] <Mamarok> hm, learned something new today :)
[22:40] <Mamarok> tsimpson: thx :)
[22:41] <tsimpson> :)


[00:03] <spiv> Odd_Bloke: I think so, yes
[05:13] <poolie> sight, downtime
[05:14] <poolie> is this really going to take 90m?
[05:17] <jamesh> I think 90 minutes is the downtime window
[05:17] <mthaddon> poolie, hoping it won't be that long
[05:18] <mthaddon> that's the worst case
[05:18] <poolie> jamesh, i think there is a spec for putting a warning at the top of all pages if there is impending downtime
[05:18] <jamesh> (i.e. if things aren't going to complete by then, the upgrade might be cancelled)
[05:18] <poolie> i really hope we can do that sometime
[05:18] <jamesh> poolie: there is some code to handle that already.
[05:18] <jamesh> mthaddon: did you use it? :)
[05:18] <mthaddon> poolie that already works (15 mins before shutdown)
[05:18] <mthaddon> jamesh, yep
[05:18] <poolie> that's not much warning!
[05:19] <poolie> well
[05:19] <poolie> for some things it might be enough
[05:19] <poolie> but i think 24h would be more appropriate
[05:24] <poolie> jamesh, what do you think?
[05:24] <jamesh> poolie: I guess so
[05:25] <jamesh> for a once-a-month operation a longer warning period seems appropriate
[07:31] <carlos> morning
[07:43] <Laibsch> Does launchpad support searching inside PPAs?
[07:43] <Laibsch> If so, how often the index updated?
[07:44] <Laibsch> I could not find the packages I provide
[07:58] <jamesh> Laibsch: there is a list of the packages in your PPA at https://launchpad.net/~USER/+archive
[07:58] <jamesh> or do you mean something else?
[07:59] <Laibsch> I would like to search for package X and find out which PPA I can get it from
[08:00] <Laibsch> So somebody looking for anki should find my ppa
[08:09] <jamesh> Laibsch: maybe file a bug report about it?  I don't think it is supported yet
[08:11] <Laibsch> jamesh: looks like it is possible: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/184433
[08:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184433 in launchpad "PPA search is case-sensitive" [Undecided,New]
[08:11] <Laibsch> Just not linked very well
[08:12] <Laibsch> no, that is different
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #185547 in launchpad "search for packages in PPAs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185547
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #185558 in malone "When displaying matching bugs in +filebug, display duplicates similar to how Google displays secondary matches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185558
[09:20] <mrevell> Howdy Launchpadders
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #185572 in rosetta "Translation export cache is not being used" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185572
[12:13] <markvandenborre> would it be appropriate to use launchpad for a project like a national chapter of openstreetmap?
[12:31] <kiko> markvandenborre, what sort of software does it produce?
[12:31] <markvandenborre> not software
[12:32] <markvandenborre> geodata
[12:32] <markvandenborre> free geodata
[12:32] <kiko> markvandenborre, how free?
[12:32] <markvandenborre> CC BY-SA
[12:32] <markvandenborre> openstreetmap.org
[12:33] <markvandenborre> just preparing for a meeting tonight
[12:34] <markvandenborre> bug tracker especially might provide helpful to us
[12:35] <markvandenborre> but I try to be a good citizen, won't even bother if you guys say you'd rather not have us use launchpad
[12:35] <kiko> markvandenborre, don't see a problem with it; the best person to check would be statik
[12:36] <markvandenborre> kiko: thx!
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #185604 in soyuz "Missing <uploader> tag in the lpnet configuration causing oops sending email" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185604
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #185606 in soyuz "PPAs with deletions are not automatically re-published" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185606
[12:42] <\sh> dear launchpadders ;) reading about bug #183495 and infinities idea...how does soyuz deal with packages which wants to build-dep on alien arch packages? e.g. a source package building on i386 is build-depending on a _sparc.deb?
[12:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 183495 in openbios-sparc "[FTBFS] openbios-sparc (1.0~alpha2+20070816-1) fails to build in hardy" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183495
[12:44]  * \sh hands out some crack pipes for soyuz hackers to answer this question ;)
[12:47] <psicus78> hello!
[12:47] <psicus78> I'v tried to compile glib2.0 2.15.3 for gutsy in using PPA, everything worked fine and I was able to install but now I have this weird situation:
[12:47] <psicus78> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53299/
[12:48] <psicus78>  and the update manager keeps asking me to update it!
[12:48] <psicus78>  ops, sorry about that
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <Hobbsee> persia: that's a launchpad bug.
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <Hobbsee> psicus78: you'll have to wait for launchpad to fix their bug - it's known
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <-- vorian has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <persia> Hobbsee: poor support for !Kung, or the key issue?
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <Hobbsee> persia: glibc probably has a predepend
[12:49] <Hobbsee> [23:48] <Hobbsee> persia: which makes it forever try to reinstall
[12:49]  * persia notes that the !Kung reference made more sense in context, and isn't actually meaningful here.
[12:56] <Hobbsee> cprov: presumably the fix for endlessly upgrading packages is not retroactive?
[12:57] <cprov> Hobbsee: no, it's not, I commented in the bug. It requires new uploads
[13:00] <Hobbsee> right
[13:48] <psicus78> hi
[13:48] <psicus78> I was wondering why binary and source packages still remain my PPA...
[13:49] <Laibsch> psicus78: Because the GPL requires that
[13:49] <psicus78> even if they do not appear in the list of packages anymore
[13:49] <Laibsch> (assuming you are providing gpl software)
[13:50] <psicus78> so what can I do if I want to rebuild them? new packages are rejected
[13:50] <psicus78> Do I have to change version number?
[13:51] <Hobbsee> yes
[13:52] <psicus78> about a month ago I built a lot of kernel packages and they have been deleted when I asked it...is there any reason?
[13:53] <Hobbsee> cprov: hey!  do we have delete now then?
[13:54] <Hobbsee> GASP!  WE DO!
[13:55] <Hobbsee> it works, too!
[13:55] <Hobbsee> cprov: well done!
[13:55]  * Hobbsee ponders blogging about it
[13:58] <kiko> T-5 launchpad meeting in #launchpad-meeting
[15:04]  * rjek idly wonders what the chances of getting an official Ubuntu derivitive called "Unbrowntoo" are.  Given people cite the brown as a negative, it'd remove the complaint :)
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #185668 in launchpad ""make clean" should remove lib/mailman" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185668
[17:05] <mtaylor_> ?bug 185668
[17:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185668 in launchpad ""make clean" should remove lib/mailman" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185668 - Assigned to Barry Warsaw (barry)
[18:17] <somerville32> I get OOPS-754EA115 when I attempt to edit milestones in my project
[18:17] <somerville32> I'm on edge
[18:17] <somerville32> Reproducible every time on every milestone I have
[18:19] <kiko> thanks somerville32, will look into it immediately. matsubara: ^^^
[18:20] <ubotu> New bug: #185706 in launchpad "OOPS in +editemails form if email address field is empty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185706
[18:20]  * matsubara checks. thanks somerville32
[18:22] <kiko> damn
[18:22] <matsubara> that will definitely need a RC
[18:28] <somerville32> Is it broken bad? lol
[18:30] <ubotu> New bug: #185709 in launchpad "Being bug contact for product should associate team/user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185709
[18:33] <superm1> woohoo, cleaning up space on PPAs :)
[18:40] <kiko> somerville32, yeah. a bummer.
[18:40] <somerville32> Is it only on edge?
[18:43] <kiko> somerville32, nope, it's live
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #185716 in launchpad "package versions portlet sorted oddly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185716
[19:08] <Ullner> How do you create another translation template? Using another name wiped out the old translation .pot.
[19:08] <kiko> Ullner, you upload a new one to your project -- you can have multiple templates active
[19:08] <Ullner> Well, we did that and the old .pot was overwritten.
[19:09] <kiko> Ullner, what project is this about?
[19:09] <Ullner> dcpluplus
[19:09] <Ullner> er, dcplusplus
[19:10] <Ullner> We had "dcpp-win32" as a template. Jacek (arnetheduck, which was here yesterday, too) uploaded "dcpp" and the "dcpp-win32" file was overwritten and the translations are gone it seems.
[19:25] <ubotu> New bug: #185731 in soyuz "Shared lockfile conflicts for poppy and process-upload" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185731
[19:30] <ubotu> New bug: #185732 in launchpad "+edit milestone page is broken when the date is set" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185732
[19:44] <lucas> hi
[19:45] <lucas> is there a way to mail all the members of a team?
[19:52] <svaksha> hi, was told to ask this here : i filed a bug and wanted to attach logs, unable to. So does LP have a file size limit to upload a log file ?
[19:52] <Treenaks> svaksha: 'forbidden' error?
[19:52] <svaksha> Treenaks: huh?
[19:53] <Treenaks> svaksha: I just got a "Forbidden" error when I tried to report a bug in Ubuntu (using apport)
[19:54] <ScottK> Treenaks: Was the bug against an Ubuntu package or your own/PPA package?
[19:54] <svaksha> Treenaks: well my page just keeps resolving endlessly
[19:54] <Treenaks> ScottK: I don't think I have ppa's enabled here.. let me see
[19:55] <Treenaks> ScottK: it's not coming from a ppa, according to apt-cache policy
[19:55] <Treenaks> ScottK: (it's gnome-mount)
[19:56] <Treenaks> (hardy version)
[19:57] <ScottK> OK.  Nevermind then.  Not taking apport bugs from versions not in the official Ubuntu repos is a feature.  Thought it might be that.
[19:57] <Treenaks> ScottK: then it should say that, and not 'Forbidden' imho :)
[19:57] <ScottK> I think in that case it explains itself, but it doesn't happen to me.
[20:00] <ubotu> New bug: #185735 in launchpad "Trying to report a bug (using apport in Ubuntu) gives 'Forbidden' error after entering a bug title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185735
[20:29] <arnetheduck> Hi, any rosetta maintainers around? I'm having a problem importing pot's and was hoping someone might know what's up...
[22:07] <Rinchen> updated next meeting, removed ppa notice, and questions = help :-D
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #185776 in launchpad "Active Milestones portlet does not check to see if milestones are active" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185776


[03:27] <alkisg> Chunkyz, virt-manager is a completelly different program than virtualbox
[10:37] <Chunkyz> I know........
[12:29] <lucas-arg> hey all... got one question
[12:29] <Chunkyz> lucas-arg: shoot the question. :-)
[12:29] <lucas-arg> when i install ndivia drivers gnome shows that its runnin with nvidia drivers
[12:29] <lucas-arg> but when i run glxgears it says its using intel instead
[12:30] <lucas-arg> so dont really know if ubuntu is really using nvidia or intel drivers
[12:33] <tarzeau> lsmod  would help? or dkms status?
[12:35] <lucas-arg> nvidia-smi query shows on demand
[12:36] <lucas-arg> its confusing
[12:37] <lucas-arg> ubuntu says nvidia drivers are installed
[12:37] <lucas-arg> but i dont see ubuntu using them
[12:49] <lucas-arg> me again
[12:49] <lucas-arg> im sure ubuntu is not using nvidia drivers
[12:50] <lucas-arg> even though it says they are installed gnome says nvidia is installed, software-center too, but nvidia drivers just donr run at all
[12:51] <lucas-arg> glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[12:51] <lucas-arg> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2)


[08:37] <lubmil> dzień
[11:41] <lubmil> http://i.imgur.com/e8MHOb6.png
[15:01] <Muhammad_Saad> Hola, everyone!
[15:02] <Muhammad_Saad> Is it possible to run a command as a user whose shell is set to /bin/false?
[15:48] <Strife> Hi
[17:10] <lubmil> !dk
[17:10] <ChanSeba> lubmil: smacznej kawy! :)


[01:51] <Ponch0> from 3.8 to "3.10"
[01:51] <roasted> hi
[01:51] <roasted> what?
[01:52] <Ponch0> oh someone asked earlier at some point, what I upgraded to from what, when i stated that my software updater wasn't working anymore
[01:52] <Ponch0> since the upgrade
[02:43] <bjsnider> dist-upgrade isn't what you probably think it is
[02:44] <bjsnider> it is necessary when you've got packages that have to be forced out by conflicts
[02:44] <bjsnider> upgrade may be enough in most cases
[03:00] <Ponch0> Nooooooo, last time I ran upgrade, it deleted gnome and just put in straight buntu
[03:25] <roasted> o.O
[03:30] <Ponch0> -_-
[03:33] <roasted> I have a question that I'd like to present with the utmost level of respect, but I am so dang curious I want to fire it out there.
[03:34] <roasted> If development for Gnome 3.10 started in May, how is it that 13.10 is still 3.8 bound? I understand that there's little time there, but one would think that 3.10 starting back in May would allow for a considerable amount of time to port things in place.
[03:37] <Ponch0> I saw an article that said something about it being seperate or something
[03:37] <roasted> I get the stability argument, but I just find it a little :/ to have a "new" distro out that needs a PPA to have the latest Gnome. This seems like it'll be something that travels with Ubuntu GNOME forever...
[03:38] <Ponch0> yeah ubuntu is fugly, they should just rename it and call it gnobuntu
[03:38] <Ponch0> and make it like a permanent thing
[03:39] <roasted> Ubuntu GNOME is a permanent thing
[03:39] <roasted> and Gubuntu got shot down, if I recall
[03:39] <roasted> not sure about Gnobuntu. Sounds awkward to verbally say it :P
[03:39] <roasted> the thing is, Ubuntu positioned its release day 1 month after each Gnome release, which worked in the 2.x days just fine.
[03:40] <roasted> But now, Ubuntu is not in the Gnome camp... this is Ubuntu GNOME's turf now... but in 3.x land, a month is not enough.
[03:40] <roasted> Which basically guarantees that each consecutive version of Ubuntu GNOME will effectively have one version older of Gnome than what's "current"
[03:40] <roasted> well, latest, I shoulds ay
[03:45] <Ponch0> I dunno sounds like politics. Preferential elevator stuff I rather not speculate on.
[03:46] <roasted> I hear you. It's just with the introduction of another PPA, it sounds like a lot to manage.
[03:47] <Ponch0> For sure.
[03:57] <darkxst> roasted, there is nothing we can do about release dates! We have to share the archive with Ubuntu
[03:58] <roasted> I thought that would be the case.
[03:58] <darkxst> and on the plus side saucy is rock solid, since the 3.8 packages had a good cycle to bake. end result is probably 100x more stable than it would have been with 3.10 in it.
[03:58] <roasted> I understand.
[03:59] <roasted> I'll give Saucy with 3.8 a solid run.
[03:59] <darkxst> and as for the PPA's they provide the foundation for Ubuntu+1
[03:59] <roasted> you mentioned that to get 3.10 in Saucy we'll definitely need 2 PPAs, correct?
[04:00] <darkxst> to get all of 3.10, atleast initially you will need both -next and staging
[04:02] <roasted> k, I'll keep it in mind
[04:02] <roasted> just begins to make my knees shake when I hear my DE will be housed under multiple PPAs :P
[04:05] <Ponch0> omg darkxst! the hero
[04:05] <roasted> the legend
[04:07] <Ponch0> darkxst, question sir: I upgraded to '3.10', software updater isn't working, how do I keep my system up to date from command line? is sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sufficient?
[04:08] <darkxst> Ponch0, yes sure dist-upgrade is fine, just make sure to always check if it wants to remove half you system (as it will sometimes, if there are broken dependencies)
[04:09] <Ponch0> :D haha I remember, ever since then it hasn't asked once if I wanted a partial, and i've been waiting and hoping that it does.
[04:14] <roasted> for what it's worth, your work, time, energy, and contributions are appreciated darkxst and team.
[04:14] <Ponch0> for sure, is there a po box i send the xmas gift to?
[04:14] <Ponch0> australian beer?
[04:15] <darkxst> thanks guy
[04:17] <darkxst> Ponch0, I can get australian beer down the street ;)
[04:19] <Ponch0> haha, I just saw the commercial for "Foster". I'm pretty sure you guys don't like/know about it, alot of the american stuff once it gets here gets watered down.
[04:19] <roasted> do any of you know the answer offhand.. if you're playing music in 3.8 and you right click rhythm box in the message tray, are there buttons for forward reverse pause?
[04:24] <Ponch0> I don't sorry
[04:27] <darkxst> "Fosters" is crap so we just export it!
[04:28] <ph_> darkxst, hey man you here?
[04:29] <ph_> darkxst, I just got done but still have the DPI problem and nautilus is 100% CPU utilisation when I open it
[04:31] <ph_> darkxst, ubuntu gnome 13.10, then updates restart, gnome3-next ppa, dist-upgrade reboot - nautilus problem detected at this point. gnome3 ppa + gnome3-staging ppa, dist-upgrade and reboot and install hexchat
[04:31] <Ponch0> How would one upgrade to 13.10, while already having and keeping gnome '3.10'?
[04:32] <ph_> the big font problem is at the login screen so not user related - so that should make it easier to resolve yeah?
[04:32] <ph_> darkxst, Any ideas on the nautilus issue either?
[04:33] <darkxst> ph_, nope sorry
[04:33] <ph_> Ponch0, I don't think you can do it
[04:33] <darkxst> just file bugs using ubuntu-bug for both issues
[04:33] <ph_> Ponch0, need to ppa-purge first before you upgrade to 13.10
[04:34] <ph_> darkxst, bugger!
[04:34] <Ponch0> thanks ph_
[04:34] <ph_> darkxst, I have the logs from the first reboot where the big fonts problem started do you want to have a quick look at those?
[04:34] <darkxst> ok
[04:34] <Ponch0> I have this pesky wifi problem since always that other users have with the card but seems to have been ignored because I guess not enough people complain, hoping it's fixed in 13.10
[04:35] <ph_> ponch0, normally I would recommend a clean build but not with the issues I am having :P
[04:35] <Ponch0> ph_, yeah i'm getting desperate ..
[04:37] <ph_> darkxst, http://pastebin.com/xmAUQ4Wf
[04:37] <ph_> the first few lines with date etc are from the dmesg after the first boot, there was aparmor error - i uninstalled apparmor, not fixed.
[04:38] <ph_> the errors from line 12 to 28 are from the last boot without staging of gnome-settings-daemon
[04:38] <ph_> from 29 down that is gnome-settings-daemon with gnome3-staging
[04:40] <darkxst> I don't see anything there that would be related to messed up fonts
[04:40] <ph_> darkxst, that's without logging in
[04:40] <ph_> ok I found this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaResolutionXorgConf
[04:40] <ph_> see DisplaySize and the text just before that
[04:41] <ph_> how it says that if the display size is detected incorrectly it can mess fonts and cursor size up
[04:41] <ph_> that's exactly what is happening with me and my monitor is detected as 7" but should be 55"
[04:42] <ph_> I tried created an xorg.conf with settings for 55" but it didn
[04:42] <ph_> ^didn't change the detected size in gnome-control-panel so I assume it's getting it somewhere else
[04:50] <ph_> darkxst, this is from /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/2rhcaLk4
[04:50] <ph_> darkxst, can you please grep your log for dpi and see what yours is getting set to?
[04:51] <darkxst> DPI set to (85, 86);
[04:51] <ph_> there you go - so that is the problem - it's picking up bad edid settings
[04:51] <ph_> darkxst, is your monitor at 1920x1080?
[04:51] <darkxst> what NVIDIA blob are you using?
[04:52] <darkxst> my monitors are 1280x1024
[04:52] <ph_> well I was just using nouveau - i just installed 319.49 and rebooted before i connected here to see if that made a difference
[04:53] <ph_> darkxst, what's a blob btw :P
[04:53] <darkxst> proprietry binary only drivers
[04:54] <ph_> cool - 64bit also. So I think it would be unlikely if nouveau is having the same issue that it's from the NVidia drivers
[04:54] <darkxst> ph_ anyway this is either a driver, X or monitor issue, you might have more luck getting help in #ubuntu-x
[04:56] <ph_> darkxst, ok i'll try there. What about the nautilus issue? It cam straight after upgrading to gnome3-next. Would it be possible for me to downgrade to the nautilus package from Saucy or that wouldn't be a good idea?
[04:58] <Ponch0> Here comes fresh install of Ubuntu-gnome!
[04:59] <Noskcaj> Why haven't the support and devel channels been split yet?
[04:59] <darkxst> ph_, nautilus is on staging, so no you won't be able to downgrade it.
[05:00] <ph_> ponch0 - good luck :) let me know if you have nautilus issues after upgrading to gnome3-next ppa
[05:00] <darkxst> do you get any errors if you run from a terminal
[05:00] <Ponch0> ph_: I should be back soon, if not my computer blew up :D
[05:01] <Ponch0> I have intel on this laptop, so we'll see how the reception is.
[05:01] <ph_> darkxst, no I don't now - so doing the ubuntu-gnome build made it less chatty with errors but is there a log perhaps that might have errors thrown by nautilus that wouldn't show on the console?
[05:01] <ph_> ponch0, cool :)
[05:02] <darkxst> ph_, run `G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all nautilus`
[05:02] <ph_> darkxst, wow this is funny I just ran nautilus from a terminal with sudo su - so as root and it runs fine without 100% cpu?!?
[05:03] <Noskcaj> Can someone fix the topic to say that beta 2 is the latest developement release?
[05:04] <ph_> darkxst, ok getting heaps of these running nautilus as a normal user (nautilus:7143): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly.
[05:05] <ph_> darkxst, and running as normal user is 100% CPU - so I think that would be the actual cause right there
[05:06] <ph_> darkxst, how can i fix that permission problem?
[05:07] <ph_> darkxst, isn't /run for writing pid's etc to?
[05:08] <ph_> darkxst, so fixing that with chmod will break on a reboot wouldn't it?
[05:08] <darkxst> probably
[05:08] <ph_> darkxst, these are the permissions set on this folder -rw-------
[05:08] <ph_> can you have a look at yours?
[05:09] <ph_> please
[05:09] <darkxst> do you own the file?
[05:09] <ph_> nope root does
[05:09] <darkxst> it should be owner:group 1000
[05:09] <darkxst> or whatever you username is
[05:10] <ph_> ok is the user/1000 folder correct or that should be user/username ?
[05:11] <darkxst> 1000 is correct
[05:11] <ph_> could it have something to do with my fstab mount options at all?
[05:11] <ph_> ok but it's getting the wrong permissions then - how the hell is that happening?
[05:11] <darkxst> run is not mounted by fstab
[05:12] <ph_> good point
[05:12] <darkxst> no idea sorry, not likely a gnome issue though, so file a bug and hopefully someone who knows will look into it
[05:12] <ph_> it's funny I own the folder user is sitting in but user it'sef is root
[05:13] <ph_> ^itself
[05:15] <ph_> darkxst, ok I worked it out - when i ran nautilus as sudo it created that file and then when i ran it as my user it didn't have permissions to it - but root shouldn't be creating stuff under /user/1000 in the first place yeah?
[05:17] <darkxst> sudo is not really root
[05:18] <ph_> sudo su it was - but that's the same?
[05:21] <ph_> darkxst, G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all nautilus running that as a user it doesn't throw errors - but it show it is successfully registerd at /org/gnome/SessionManager/Client18 but runs at 100% CPU. When running G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all nautilus under sudo su terminal it fails to register but doesn't run at 100% CPU. Could it be some issue with gnome session manager causing the problem?
[05:24] <darkxst> probably not
[05:24] <darkxst> do you have nautilus rendering desktop icons?
[05:25] <ph_> no i don't have gnome-tweak installed yet
[05:26] <ph_> maybe it could be screwed up user settings for nautilus - i will try creating a new user account and test
[05:26] <ph_> brb
[05:33] <Ponch0> ph_: No issues what so far, in fact all the issues I had prior to this (besides wifi) are now gone.
[05:34] <Ponch0> what so ever*
[05:34] <ph_> darkxst, yeah that's it man
[05:34] <Ponch0> ph_: No issues whats so ever, in fact all the issues I had prior to this (besides wifi) are now gone.
[05:35] <ph_> darkxst, created new user and nautilus issue disappeared. So something in my profile from moving from 3.8 to 3.10
[05:35] <ph_> darkxst, will have to migrate and test in new account. I'll let you know if I track down the cause
[05:35] <ph_> ponch0, nice one :)
[05:36] <ph_> ponch0, mine are superficial errors it seems so not so bad here either ;)
[05:36] <Ponch0> awesome!
[05:37] <ph_> ponch0, yeah ;) Although bluetooth isn't working for me as the last problem I'm having - are you seeing bluetooth icon in 3.10 ponch0?
[05:37] <Ponch0> ph_: yup, and disabled it as usual haha
[05:37] <ph_> ponch0, can you do a test for me also to see if you can crash gnome-shell?
[05:37] <Ponch0> sure thing.
[05:38] <ph_> go to activities, search terminal and run it. type sudo su and enter
[05:38] <darkxst> bluetooth icon in shell won't work yet
[05:38] <ph_> then nautilus
[05:38] <darkxst> but bluetooth itself should be fine
[05:38] <ph_> then flick your mouse up to the activities and see if it crashes gnome-shell
[05:39] <Ponch0> ph_ have been doing that since i logged in, i'm getting all my programs in place, no issues.
[05:39] <ph_> darkxst, yeah bluetooth is working but no icon - ok that's cool - not an issue then :)
[05:39] <darkxst> needs the new BlueZ, but that is a massive transition
[05:40] <ph_> so running nautilus as root from a terminal with sudo su running you can open activities without crashing?
[05:40] <Ponch0> ph_: no issues with terminal sudo su, and flicking activities I have no issue
[05:40] <ph_> can you try with gedit
[05:40] <Ponch0> run gedit from terminal? how do I get out of root?
[05:41] <ph_> no stay as root and run gedit
[05:41] <ph_> then try flicking to activities
[05:41] <darkxst> ph_, why would you want to do that!
[05:41] <ph_> darkxst, lol for editing grub
[05:42] <ph_> ponch0, you still here?
[05:42] <ph_> ponch0, did it crash your gnome-shell?
[05:43] <darkxst> ph_, use vi or something, its not generally a good idea to run GUI apps as root
[05:44] <ph_> darkxst, understood but it shouldn't kill gnome-shell like that
[05:45] <Ponch0> That did it! :D, once i flicked to activities after gedit opened, it crashed.
[05:46] <ph_> darkxst, i only do it for a few things - usually i have nautilus extensions install that run gksu and then the app I want which works without issue but before you install all that on a fresh build sudo gedit is what I have been used to and it kills the hell out of gnome-shell - you can't recover by ctrl+alt+f1 and stop gdm and restart it - you have to reboot your entire computer to recover
[05:46] <ph_> ponch0, ok that's great thanks for testing it - just remember not to do that and you won't kill gnome-shell
[05:47] <darkxst> it should never crash that hard!
[05:47] <ph_> darkxst, I'm going to log a bug - because yeah it shouldn't but it does
[05:48] <ph_> trust me I tried killing all gnome processes, X everything i could think of and restarting them all and logging in - nope no gnome-shell it throws heaps of errors in the logs - need to bounce my entire computer to fix it
[05:48] <ph_> darkxst, you try it and see if you can recover without rebooting your machine
[05:49] <ph_> needs to be sudo su from gnome-terminal then nautilus or gedit do it for me - but try gedit that does it without fail and on other pc's it seems according to ponch0
[05:50] <Ponch0> but I do have the bluetooth icon
[05:50] <ph_> lol - how'd you get that?
[05:50] <Ponch0> It was here after install.
[05:51] <ph_> ponch0 - have you upgraded to gnome3-next and gnome3-staging?
[05:51] <ph_> or just ubuuntu gnome 13.10
[05:51] <Ponch0> I'm on beta Ubuntu-GNOME
[05:51] <ph_> if it's just ubuntu gnome 13.10 then you are gnome-shell 3.8
[05:51] <Ponch0> 3.11.0-9-generic
[05:51] <ph_> that's why you have the icon
[05:51] <Ponch0> ooooh I see ok "GNOME Shell 3.8.4"
[05:51] <Ponch0> just ran version check,
[05:52] <ph_> to get gnome-shell 3.10 you need to add the gnome3-next ppa then apt-get distupgrade
[05:52] <Ponch0> That's why I have no issues :D
[05:52] <ph_> ^dist-upgrade
[05:52] <ph_> yeah that could be why no nautilus 100%
[05:52] <ph_> it's up to you if you want 3.10 or not
[05:53] <ph_> if you do then it's better to add gnome3-next ppa, dist-upgrade to that, then add gnome3 ppa and gnome3-staging ppa and do another dist-upgrade
[05:53] <Ponch0> No, haha I had that before this reinstall, heeeaps of issues
[05:53] <ph_> aaahhh ok
[05:53] <ph_> lol
[05:54] <ph_> yeah i am tempted to ghost back to my 13.10 with 3.8
[05:54] <ph_> buuuuut I like having the latest gnome-shell
[05:54] <ph_> so i'm gonna stick it out
[05:55] <ph_> darkxst, are you still here - did you try gedit to crash your g-s/
[05:55] <ph_> ?
[05:56] <ph_> just going afk for a bit - have a friend over to fix his comp
[05:56] <Ponch0> I did like 3.10 alot also
[06:07] <ph_> ponch0, sorry i pulled my plug out :P - yeah it's pretty stable if you follow the method above I said to upgrade - but get yourself a copy of clonezilla and put it on a USB then backup your ubuntu as is - it only takes about 5 minutes to do so. try it out and then your can recover if you don't think it's stable enough
[06:07] <ph_> or you can do it with jhbuild? darkxst can point u in the right direction for that
[06:10] <ph_> darkxst, hey man did you try to crash your gnome-shell the way i suggested yet?
[06:56] <Ponch0> Hey guys anyone know how I can get this cpu thing up and running like so here: http://vindsl.com/images/vindsl-desktop-28-apr-2013-1.png
[07:33] <darkxst> Ponch0, that is conky, but I have never used it
[07:34] <ricotz> better spend cpu-cycles on something useful ;P
[07:40] <Ponch0> thank you darkxst, I have figured it out, it doesn't look as nice as it does in pictures haha
[07:40] <Ponch0> lol ricotz, that's true
[07:51] <darkxst> Ponch0, there are like a million different conky themes!
[07:51] <darkxst> ricotz, mostly have gjs working except utf-8 tests are still broken
[07:53] <Ponch0> Haha I have found those.
[07:56] <Ponch0> Ok- going on main ubuntu channel to bother them haha
[07:58] <ricotz> darkxst, great!
[09:17] <Vorbis> hi
[09:17] <Vorbis> somebody here?
[09:17] <Vorbis> ubuntu gnome 13.10 is going to use xmir?
[09:19] <darkxst> Vorbis, no
[09:21] <Vorbis> great!!
[09:21] <Vorbis> I'll test it
[14:11] <ph_> darkxst, phew - what a nightmare man
[14:12] <Ponch0> ph_, how'd you work out?
[14:12] <ph_> darkxst, rolled back to next only. Sorted out the nautilus, but can't for the life of me see where the font problem is coming from. Logged a bug anyway, so hopefully someone will see it before the release date so it can get fixed
[14:12] <ph_> ponch0, staying with 3.10 but gnome3-next ppa only
[14:13] <Ponch0> Ah ok, I had a ton of issues but I didnt have a font issue?
[14:13] <Ponch0> personally when i was on 3.10
[14:13] <ph_> not going to staging - will just wait for full release of Ubuntu Gnome 13.10, and when gnome-shell 3.10 is fully released I'll install the both together
[14:14] <ph_> I'm ok on next 3.10 but staging gave me all sorts of grief unfortunately
[14:14] <Ponch0> That's what i'm doing at this point.
[14:15] <Ponch0> Just going to wait, need something semi-stable, this computer is where I work on most of my school java stuff
[14:15] <ph_> anyways I'm just recovering my software and settings etc still, it's a lot of work
[14:15] <Ponch0> I know, I find it easier to back up my files and do a fresh install lol
[14:16] <ph_> yeah this is my main PC - media everything pc hooked up to my tv (slash big ass monitor), so it needs to be stable
[14:17] <ph_> yeah that's what i do as well, but i don't like copying my old user folder, so I opt for rebuilding and reinstalling apps manually, and just copying config files in place
[14:17] <ph_> so it takes me about a day for a full build
[14:18] <ph_> but that's about the same with windows so I'm not complaining - but it's better to stay with something stable than screw around with rebuilding every couple of days :P
[14:19] <Ponch0> patience is a virtue lol I command you
[14:20] <ph_> yeah - mine runs thin at times like this when I dive back into ubuntu and happen to hit an unstable cycle
[14:21] <ph_> so your staying with g-s 3.8?
[14:22] <Ponch0> Yeah for now, i'm on 13.10 beta 2 and surprisingly it's been pretty stable so far.  I remember when I installed 13.04 beta because 12.10 wasn't working with my hardware.  That was a nightmare
[14:24] <Ponch0> so I'm going to stick with 13.10 gnome 3.8 for now.
[14:24] <ph_> I had a really nice build from upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 and it was rock solid. Then my SSD crashed and my only option was straight 12.10 when i got the drive back. I did that and jesus everything was screwed up - I have no idea why but it just wasn't the same as doing a dist-upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[14:26] <ph_> I was really plannig on sticking with that original 12.10 build i had for a while, but I had no choice once i got my drive back so I've been staying with the latest and greatest since then
[14:27] <ph_> that was g-s 3.2 or 3.4 I can't remember now it was a year and a half ago now
[14:27] <Ponch0> Yeah I understand, I had the pleasure of buying the laptop in december of last year with the new EFI boot "security" from Windows 8
[14:28] <ph_> I heard that stuffed up a lot of people's installs for a while there
[14:28] <Ponch0> WIPED it :) best decision ever
[14:28] <Ponch0> Oh it was a nightmare
[14:28] <ph_> my pc is uefi but before all that new shite came in
[14:29] <ph_> glad i didn't have to go through it
[14:30] <Ponch0> Yeah, I have a PC that I never use lol but I have a dual-boot set up, ordered it from one of those, custom built places and it
[14:30] <Ponch0> it's awesome cuz they really just leave it open for ya to do anything.
[14:31] <Ponch0> No issues, have an external HD with gnome on it and w8 on the original.
[14:31] <ph_> yeah that's the only way to go - I only build custom pc's myself - won't ever go back to branded
[14:31] <Ponch0> but really, windows 8 trying to lock me out of installing linux just caused me to make it completely useless to me and I since then prefer Linux.
[14:32] <ph_> yeah and it
[14:32] <ph_> ^it's all to showcase there 3 second boot stuff
[14:32] <Ponch0> lol is it? I didn't even know that.
[14:33] <Ponch0> Not only that, windows 8 is for tablets....
[14:33] <Ponch0> why do I want tiles on my desktop......
[14:33] <ph_> yeah all that uefi, secure boot, ultra fast mode bios crap was to try and keep it just for microsoft
[14:34] <ph_> i boot with ubuntu in 5 seconds
[14:34] <ph_> and that's not with the ultra fast boot stuff
[14:34] <ph_> it's just straight from an ssd
[14:34] <Ponch0> that's awesome.
[14:34] <ph_> now granted if you take bios load, and menu's etc it would be closer to 10 seconds
[14:35] <ph_> but that actual boot time of ubuntu is 5 seconds
[14:35] <Ponch0> that's really good.
[14:35] <ph_> microsoft's 3 second boot is from when you click the power button you have a desktop and can start working within 3 seconds
[14:36] <Ponch0> Right, personally it doesn't matter to me as long as it doesn't take over a minute lol
[14:36] <ph_> google you tube and you can see some in action - it's quite cool but it's only microsoft at this stage
[14:37] <ph_> 6.3 seconds is mine - just checked it in the logs
[14:37] <ph_> so that's not so bad
[14:38] <Ponch0> not bad at all, damnit my neighbors having sex again.
[14:38] <ph_> lol eeeewww
[14:39] <ph_> anyways on that note I'm just gonna finish sorting my machine out
[14:40] <Ponch0> np, good luck!
[14:40] <ph_> see ya round - i'm sure i'll be in and out of here getting stuff sorted
[14:40] <ph_> cheers you too
[16:09] <bjsnider> Ponch0, not enough insulation where you live?
[16:10] <bjsnider> there's a product called safe & sound, and also quietrock
[16:49] <lenzeor> Anyone there?
[16:49] <lenzeor> How do I upgrade from gnome 3.8 to 3.10?
[16:56] <lenzeor> Anyone there?
[16:56] <lenzeor> How do I upgrade from gnome 3.8 to 3.10?
[18:44] <roasted> man. evolution in saucy is crazy unstable
[18:44] <roasted> edit preferences of an ews account... instant crash majority of the time
[19:02] <bjsnider> good thing i use it not
[20:38] <steven_> working on a Linux OS--12.4.  Is there an upgrade?
 12.10 is that an upgrade for linux OS?
[22:38] <roasted> bjsnider: (delayed answer incoming) yeah, I hear you. It's just Evolution integrates rather nicely with Exchange. Nothing else on Linux, as far as I'm aware, will do that. I could always pull IMAP in, but then calendars, contacts, tasks, etc are left to the OWA on a browser. :/
[23:29] <roasted> It seems as if the gvfs bug that plagued earlier releases is still apparent in Ubuntu GNOME 13.10
[23:29] <roasted> I just tried to pull 1.5 GB from my samba file server.
[23:29] <roasted> It locked up at 916 MB. It's been sitting here, frozen, for 15 minutes now.
[23:52] <bjsnider> roasted, gdm session errors?
[23:53] <roasted> bjsnider: remind me... where are htey located?
[23:53] <roasted> ist hat xsession-errors?
[23:54] <roasted> xsession-errors does not show anything relevant. The last thing listed there is regarding Geppetto, which is something I used at the end of my shift @ work about 4 hours ago


[15:13] <h00k> So...is it in the plans to have events on loco.ubuntu.com RSS'd?
[15:13] <h00k> I see there's an ical
[15:14] <h00k> OH. Found it.
[15:17] <h00k> Are there any integration plans with the moinmoin wiki and loco.ubuntu.com?
[16:06] <mhall119> h00k: sort of
[16:07] <mhall119> it won't be a full wiki, but we're planning on allowing wiki markup in some of the large text fields, list descriptions
[22:01] <bkerensa> Paultag: I sent a little update to ML for you and others
[22:01] <paultag> bkerensa: thanks, man!
[23:12] <paultag> bkerensa: mail went through :)
[23:13] <bkerensa> Yeah :) I'm tidying it up into a post for Ubuntu-us.org


[12:02] <xav> mezoko: google is your friend
[12:02] <mezoko> xav, dude I've been googling
[12:04] <xav> sorry then, I remember having similar problems, and I remember finding quite some stuff about it. not 100% sure though
[12:04] <xav> anyway, I'm off. good luck
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60312 in Ubuntu "If repository server is offline, user get an "403:Forbidden" when trying to install" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60312
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60313 in ndiswrapper (main) "ndiswrapper in modprobe.d causes system to semi-hang during login" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60313
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60314 in csound (universe) "Segfault when using GEN01" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60314
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60315 in Ubuntu "Launching HTTP Cache Cleaner" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60315
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60316 in Ubuntu "edgy eft knot2 desktop cd hangs on or around xorg configuration" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60316
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60317 in sudo (main) "neither sudo gedit, nor gksudo gedit work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60317
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60318 in Ubuntu "Vim 7.0 should be backported for Dapper" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60318
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60319 in mythtv (multiverse) "please mythtv sync 0.20 from debian-multimedia" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60319
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60321 in Ubuntu "Suspend to Ram fails under 2.6.17" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60321
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60322 in hotkey-setup (main) "No events from Acer TravelMate 650 extra buttons" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60322
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60323 in linux-meta (main) "kernel crash on resume from S3 suspend" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60323
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60324 in geda (universe) "(ubuntu edgy)current geda version is about 8 months old" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60324
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60325 in gedit (main) "gedit crashes when 2nd instance opened under another login instance" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60325
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60326 in gst-plugins-base0.10 (main) "[edgy]  gstreamer, rhythmbox won't read files over smb" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60326
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60327 in gst-plugins-ugly-multiverse0.10 (multiverse) "gst-plugins-ugly-multiverse is present in universe as well as multiverse" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60327
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60328 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "Java license display is unresponsive" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60328
[01:51] <CarlFK> where do I post web site content problems ?
[01:51] <CarlFK> like the dl page for u-server ?
[01:51] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+filebug/+login
[01:52] <CarlFK> nice.  thnaks
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60329 in newt (main) "Whiptail "OK" dialog is unresponsive." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60329
[02:06] <bddebian> Boo
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60333 in koffice (main) "koffice installation problem in edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60333
[03:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60334 in Ubuntu "Mounted drive desktop link has non-sensical name." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60334
[03:22] <JoseStefan> would be nice to confirm the volume label for the fat32 partition ^^^
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60335 in ubiquity (main) "Crash when / < 2GB and click Forward several times in Prepare Mnt" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60335
[03:26] <CarlFK> daily alternate w/ preseed file just started asking "Detect keyboard layout?" and it does it before the preseed file is even loaded.
[03:26] <CarlFK> what pacakge should I pick for my report?
[04:10] <Rinchen> you guys will like this
[04:10] <Rinchen> I'm valgrinding the kino crash and it's crashing the memchecker
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60336 in Ubuntu "Can't set special key to "run a terminal" function" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60336
[04:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60337 in deskbar-applet (main) "Deskbar often causes gnome-panel to hang when loading" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60337
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60338 in base-installer (main) "alternate just started asking "Detect keyboard layout?"" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60338
[05:56] <carthik> Yo!
[05:58] <bddebian> Heya carthik
[05:59] <carthik> 'sup bddebian
[05:59] <CarlFK> somewhere on LP is a way to report web site issues...
[06:00] <bddebian> carthik: Not much, you?
[06:00] <carthik> hanging in here - school sucks me dry - same old story...
[06:00] <CarlFK> by the time I find it, I will have forgotten what I wanted to report
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60339 in Ubuntu "Fullscreen apps can't exit fullscreen mode" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60339
[06:01] <carthik> CarlFK, https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+filebug
[06:01] <CarlFK> how would I get there from lp.net?
[06:04] <CarlFK> click for 5 min, then ask here :)
[06:18] <bddebian> Gnight folks
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60341 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal window loses title" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60341
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60343 in usplash (main) "Usplash can't handle ReiserFS's journal replay" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60343
[07:57] <Kagou> good morning
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60344 in gnome-themes "High-Contrast Themes missing icons" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60344
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #58327 in xfce4-clipman-plugin (universe) "bug repport?" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58327
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60345 in gnome-themes (main) ""Add to Panel..." assumes and hard-codes font sizes" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60345
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60346 in cupsys (main) "Only top 2cm of every page is printed for some PDF files" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60346
[08:45] <dholbach> good morning
[08:49] <sfllaw> dholbach: Morning.
[08:49] <dholbach> heya sfllaw
[08:50] <dholbach> whoooo, changes to the EdgyReleaseParties wiki page
[08:51] <sfllaw> Yay.
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60349 in galternatives (universe) "Please review merge of galternatives" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60349
[09:07] <carthik> nice interview dholbach :)
[09:07] <dholbach> carthik: uhhhh, it's out now? :)
[09:07] <carthik> dholbach, http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/DanielHolbach/ :)
[09:08] <dholbach> thanks :-)
[09:09] <Burgundavia> carthik: have you been getting the -users bugs?
[09:09] <carthik> Burgundavia, yes
[09:09] <Burgundavia> excellent
[09:10] <carthik> Burgundavia, I had stopped by earlier to say thanks (for the -users bugs). Maybe you didn't get to read the message.
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60350 in upstart (main) "Shutdown wall message doesn't beep" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60350
[09:10] <Burgundavia> you may have tagged burgwork, in which case I will read it tomorrow
[09:10] <carthik> Oh, alright
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60351 in zope2.8 (universe) "Please sync zope2.8 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60351
[10:02] <BugMaN> hi
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60353 in nvu (universe) "Nvu's unofficial bug-fix release" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60353
[10:06] <dsas_> hi BugMaN
[10:09] <Burgundavia> dsas_: scary thought: Nvu is 2.5 million LOC
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60355 in gksu (main) "The fade to grey is really ugly (should be able to disable)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60355
[10:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60354 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60354
[10:13] <dsas_> Burgundavia: I imagine there's a whole load of mozilla code in there.
[10:15] <Burgundavia> dsas_: probably most of the tree
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60356 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60356
[10:17] <dsas_> Burgundavia: I think I read it's switching to xulrunner in the future though, which should make it seem a bit more manageable.
[10:18] <Burgundavia> yes
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60357 in console-setup (main) "Does not set the nasty new font" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60357
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60359 in Ubuntu "double  media on desktop" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60359
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60360 in adept (main) "(Kubuntu) Adept doesn't keep to the setting of the system variable LC_MESSAGES" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60360
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60361 in python-gnome (universe) "fails to install" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60361
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60363 in libgeda (universe) "Please sync libgeda 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60363
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60362 in Ubuntu "preseed partman loop " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60362
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60367 in geda-gattrib (universe) "Please sync geda-gattrib 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60367
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60365 in geda-doc (universe) "Please sync geda-doc 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60365
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60366 in geda-examples (universe) "Please sync geda-examples 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60366
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60368 in geda-gnetlist (universe) "Please sync geda-gnetlist 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60368
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60370 in enlightenment (universe) "Integration with Gnome panel is lacking" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60370
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60371 in geda-gsymcheck (universe) "Please sync geda-gsymcheck 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60371
[11:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60369 in geda-gschem (universe) "Please sync geda-gschem 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60369
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60372 in enlightenment (universe) "Gnome keyboard shortcuts don't work under enlightenment" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60372
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60373 in gnome-sudoku (universe) "Printing error with gnome-sudoku" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60373
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60374 in geda-symbols (universe) "Please sync geda-symbols 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60374
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60375 in geda-utils (universe) "Please sync geda-utils 20060906-1 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60375
[11:43] <dholbach> bugs bugs bugs bugs :)
[11:43] <dholbach> we only seem to get sync bugs :)
[11:44] <seb128> which is good ;)
[11:46] <ryanoc> is it still wednesday anywhere haha
[11:46] <ryanoc> it should be wednesday every day
[11:47] <ryanoc> wait... it is..
[11:47] <dholbach> :-)
[11:47] <dholbach> where?
[11:48] <ryanoc> in here :-)
[11:48] <ryanoc> i'd give u a hug, but I don't know the command, lol...
[11:52] <ryanoc> aha!
[11:52] <dholbach> :-)
[11:53] <ryanoc> lol @ "sometimes I cry at night because of it"
[11:53] <dholbach> hm?
[11:53] <ryanoc> bug #1 on UbuntuBugDay/BugsForExtraPoints
[11:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ubuntu-meta "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[11:54] <dholbach> :-)
[11:55] <ryanoc> hey can I apt-get upgrade to the working version of edgy
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60376 in evolution (main) "Folder names in sidebar have gratuitous text" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60376
[11:56] <dholbach> sure
[11:56] <dholbach> maybe update-manager can do that too
[11:56] <ryanoc> does it have a high chance of breaking my system?
[11:56] <ryanoc> i don't know what repos to add
[11:56] <dholbach> it's likely to break *something*
[11:56] <dholbach> might be something minor
[11:56] <dholbach> it's not as stable as dapper
[11:58] <ryanoc> I don't know if I should risk it... I'm relying on this install for an assignment at the moment
[11:58] <ryanoc> ...but I have faith in ubuntu.. :)
[11:58] <dholbach> hehe
[11:59] <ryanoc> when's the expected release date?
[11:59] <dholbach> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60377 in firefox (main) "Is unable to play audio streams as wrong default application" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60377
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60378 in gnome-panel (main) "Disk applet by default" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60378
[12:03] <ryanoc> ooo knot cd 3 today...
[12:03] <ryanoc> i don't know what that means but it sounds important
[12:04] <dholbach> new test cd
[12:05] <dholbach> you could try the live cd to see how it works for you
[12:05] <ryanoc> oh yeah
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60379 in Ubuntu "(Kubuntu) KDE system settings list of problems" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60379
[12:05] <ryanoc> except i have really limited bandwidth this month
[12:05] <ryanoc> they cap it in new zealand
[12:06] <dholbach> oh i see
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60381 in hw-detect (main) "no snd-powermac in /etc/modules on powerpc" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60381
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60380 in lyx (universe) "lyx uninstallable on Edgy (unmet dependencies)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60380
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60382 in edgy-wallpapers (main) "'Artwork preview' note is partially hidden behind bottom panel" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60382
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60383 in gtk+2.0 (main) "Missing Home and Desktop items in Places panel in "Save As..." dialog" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60383
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60387 in yelp (main) "Change the front page of Yelp to accommodate Ubuntu Docs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60387
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60388 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "e1000  EEPROM Checksum validity check should be disabled" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60388
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60389 in upstart (main) "Fails to start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60389
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60390 in ubiquity (main) "Bug in final" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60390
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60391 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "too many options in "Write speed"" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60391
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60393 in Ubuntu "Edgy - switching from X to a vc i get black screen" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60393
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60392 in mono (main) "Mono closed when running f-spot" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60392
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60394 in gnome-screensaver (main) "screensaver doesn't work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60394
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60395 in cdrom-checker (main) "ppc desktop CD-ROM checker hangs forever" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60395
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60396 in Ubuntu "Edgy amd 64bit shutdown soft lock" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60396
[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60397 in partman (main) "[powerpc]  automatic partitioner creates second boot partition" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60397
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60398 in openoffice.org (main) "Saving crashes openoffice.org" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60398
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60399 in python-formencode (universe) "[Merge]  python-formencode 0.5.1-4ubuntu1" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60399
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60400 in gtkterm (universe) "gtkterm segfaults on send hexadecimal data" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60400
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60404 in apoo (universe) "[Sync Request]  apoo 1.3-8 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60404
[03:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60401 in pytone (universe) "[Sync Request]  pytone 2.3.1-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60401
[03:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60405 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "No copy disc option" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60405
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60406 in synaptic (main) "APT proxy configuration" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60406
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60407 in evolution-exchange (main) "launching evolution +exchange backend takes long time" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60407
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60408 in ctypes (universe) "[Sync Request]  ctypes 1.0.0-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60408
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60409 in oem-config (main) "eternal hang after selecting keyboard" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60409
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60410 in oem-config (main) "language/location setting is confusing" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60410
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60411 in synaptic (main) "Add more mirrors to the "Software Sources" dialog" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60411
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60412 in Ubuntu "Typing mistake 'oficially'" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60412
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60414 in xchat-gnome (main) "Copying of links in topic not working" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60414
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60415 in debian-installer (main) "English keyboard on german install" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60415
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60416 in sysvinit (main) "sysvinit needs to stay around as a compat package because of essential" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60416
[05:03] <bddebian> Boo
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60419 in libetpan (universe) "[Sync Request]  libetpan 0.46-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60419
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60421 in openssh (main) "Problem negotiation GSSAPI with Solaris 10 sshd" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60421
[05:34] <dholbach> hey bddebian
[05:35] <bddebian> Heya dholbach
[05:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60422 in Ubuntu "Problem with fglrx in edgy." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60422
[05:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60424 in tango-icon-theme-common (main) "GTK default icons used in several places" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60424
[05:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60423 in rescue (main) "freeze after exiting rescue shell" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60423
[05:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60425 in debian-installer (main) "no usplash with i386-alternate CD and XFS" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60425
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60426 in launchpad-integration (main) "uses gnome prefs if kde and gnome are installed." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60426
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60427 in aptitude (main) ""aptitude changelog foo bar" crashes" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60427
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60428 in isdnutils (main) "rhythmbox blocks dialup" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60428
[06:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60429 in upstart (main) "Upstart lacks documentation" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60429
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60430 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "[edgy]  Installation failfs during automatic download" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60430
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60431 in amule (universe) "close aba automatic" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60431
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60432 in firefox (main) "Crash when pressing "Brows" buton" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60432
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60433 in linux-meta (main) "Binary Nvidia drivers not loaded after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.15-26-686 2.6.15-26.***47*** (USN-346-1) " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60433
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60435 in openoffice.org (main) "Crash when opening big .ppt file with audio document and pictures" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60435
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60434 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox doesn't notice changes in library" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60434
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60436 in dpkg (main) "--compare-versions doesn't parse control file syntax" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60436
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60437 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "/etc/init.d/mysql: line 100: /etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60437
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60438 in Ubuntu "Changing Screen Saver locks up entire system" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60438
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60439 in Ubuntu "iptables connlimit/iplimit not working" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60439
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60442 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Dual / Two Batteries, shutdown on empty expansion battery." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60442
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60443 in evolution (main) "Evolution losts the accounts settings across reboot" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60443
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60444 in at-spi (main) "dist-upgrade caused crash again" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60444
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60446 in Ubuntu "attempting to cp from one xfs partition to another results in kernel oops" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60446
[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60445 in Ubuntu "Dual FX4500 in SLI on an HP XW9300, not detected in any kernel for Dapper" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60445
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60447 in gnome-panel (main) "[edgy]  Workspace switcher: Maximized windows have one pixel gap" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60447
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60449 in Ubuntu "Adding a library to newly created ld.so.conf and re-running ldconfig does not make it visible" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60449
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60451 in coreutils (main) "dd SIGSEGV with LANG=cs_CZ.UTF-8" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60451
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60450 in freeglut (main) "freeglut3 not available in 32 bit version on Dapper64. Multiarch" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60450
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60452 in Ubuntu "Missing links in /usr/lib32 prevents multiarch compile in Dapper64" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60452
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60453 in human-gtk-theme (main) "Text on the selected row of an insensitive list is black" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60453
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60454 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "kernel version 2.6.15-26.47 incompatible with nvidia dirver -  X server fails to start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60454
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60455 in Ubuntu ""403: Forbidden" error while updating linux-image-2.6.15-26-686" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60455
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60448 in Ubuntu ".xsession_errors file grows out of control & saturates disk space" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60448
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60457 in kdemultimedia (main) "[Efty]  Dependency on obsolete dev-package" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60457
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60458 in human-gtk-theme (main) "Text on a progressbar is hard to read" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60458
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60459 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "some troubles with a network" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60459
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60461 in rt2500 (universe) "Failure to obtain IP with DHCP on Averatec laptop with rt2500" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60461
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60460 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "Displays static mounts two times" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60460
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60462 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "System doesn't boot" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60462
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60464 in amap (universe) "Fails configuration" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60464
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60465 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Diplay Starts in 640x480@60Hz" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60465
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60466 in firefox (main) "[enhancement]  upgrading firefox version available in Edgy Eft" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60466
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60468 in popularity-contest (main) "HTTP submission doesn't work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60468
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60470 in beagle (main) "Thumbnails of pictures in directories, with national characters in names, are not displayed." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60470
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60469 in apt (main) "Apt-get MAN page doesn't document autoremove feature." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60469
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60472 in xorg (main) "Spacebardoesnotworkafterupgradetoedgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60472
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60473 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer slowly starting because of AF_INET6" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60473
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60474 in xserver-xorg-driver-i810 (main) "1280x800 resolution won't work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60474