[11:28] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: BTW I am running ubuntu 13.04 64 bit, with the latest updates
[11:28] <chris80> ehhh, do you have some games in mind you want to play on your pc?
[11:29] <cptcel23> ikonia, any idea how to configure xorg.conf to use it? (preferably not manually!)
[11:29] <cptcel23> also any idea why the normal process doesn't just work since it's supported etc?
[11:30] <ikonia> cptcel23: it looks like your card isn't identifying properly - which could be why the normal process isn't working
[11:30] <ikonia> cptcel23: the webpage I gave you earlier explains how to create the xorg.conf
[11:30] <ehhh> chris80: not really, just thought i'd try out some of the stuff from the software center, and am also going to try to run some old games (windows xp era most likely) newer stuff i can get working untill they stop releasing games but i still have a huge library of unplayed games and am going to upgrade the hdd for the 360 as big as i can, i've been looking at various from WD black series optionally if it's worth it WD Velociraptor
[11:32] <ehhh> emulation is having real progress lately on the 360 especially ps1 has just released an amazing emulator that finally seems they're not just giving up on :)
[11:32] <ikonia> ehhh: this is really nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:32] <cptcel23> ikonia, i really have to boot into recovery mode root shell to do this? lol
[11:33] <ikonia> cptcel23: probably the cleanest way to do it
[11:33] <ehhh> ikonia: yeah i go ot easily but we're still talking about ubuntu :P
[11:33] <ikonia> cptcel23: there are other ways, but following the process seems logical
[11:33] <ikonia> ehhh: no - there is nothing to do with ubuntu in this conversation
[11:34] <argoneus> okay
[11:34] <ehhh> ikonia: then try reading the first line of the latest long post
[11:34] <argoneus> mumpitze1: it doesn't freeze
[11:34] <argoneus> it just locks up for 3 minutes or so
[11:34] <ikonia> ehhh: again nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: if you make a new firefox profile (keep the standing one), is it ok there?
[11:34] <auronandace> ehhh: this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[11:35] <cptcel23> ikonia, ok.. brb
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: try in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[11:35] <columb> histo. Skype freezed. I killed it. Started again... and sound works at regular speed.
[11:35] <mumpitze1> argoneus: I don't know enough of ubuntu upstart to tell you how :(
[11:35] <argoneus> ;_;
[11:35] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: will try now
[11:35] <mumpitze1> argoneus: ask here in channel, e.h. ikonia might know
[11:35] <ehhh> well now you're just being ridiculous, do i need to highlight it for you ? it was about what games i would try to run on ubuntu and i just explained that i basically have my gaming needs covered :/
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: if its the same, try a different browser
[11:35] <bazhang> ehhh, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic Please
[11:35] <mumpitze1> basically you want the echo command as soon as /sys/ is available and as long as possible before anything else access video, e.g. no Xorg should be loaded
[11:36] <ikonia> ehhh: right, so it's nothing to do with ubuntu,
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: if its ok as the new profile in the same browser then you have isolated the issue
[11:36] <kingbeast> alright children, don't make me put the stools in the corner and put you in time out
[11:36] <ikonia> ehhh: if you have support needs/questions, then great, here is the right space.
[11:36] <bazhang> kingbeast, stop that
[11:36] <kingbeast> bazhang stop what
[11:37] <bazhang> kingbeast, the nonsense. take it elsewhere
[11:37] <chris80> ehhh, with that demands i would look for a passive cold gpu without a fan if the rest or setup is currently near silent.
[11:37] <ehhh> well now you're just trolling :/ let me break it down. . "it was about what games i would try to run on ubuntu" "what games i would try to run on ubuntu" "try to run on ubuntu" "run on ubuntu" "ubuntu" get it? ;)
[11:37] <kingbeast> bazhang, or else?
[11:37] <ikonia> ehhh: no-one is trolling, please stick to support issues here.
[11:37] <auronandace> ehhh: just talking about ubuntu is not on-topic here, only ubuntu support issues are
[11:37] <ikonia> kingbeast: please let it go, I think the conversation is over and it's back to support.
[11:37] <ehhh> alright i catch the drift
[11:38] <ikonia> ehhh: thanks
[11:38] <axizz> bazhang????
[11:38] <ehhh> chris80: the pc is basically silent unless it's having a hard time with something but in the end I won't be hearing it as i plan to have stereo speakers hooked up near the placement of it
[11:39] <axizz> wind steam
[11:39] <ehhh> that will probably deafen the computer 90%
[11:40] <argoneus> mumpitze1: well I think I fixed it
[11:40] <argoneus> I blacklisted the radeon in modprobe
[11:40] <argoneus> duh
[11:40] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: where do you go for a new profile? and BTW it keep refreshing in chromium too
[11:40] <ehhh> chris80: do you have any opinion whether i should be looking at nvidia or amd?
[11:41] <mumpitze1> argoneus: you sure that does stop the radeon suck power too?
[11:41] <argoneus> mumpitze1: that's a good question
[11:41] <argoneus> I'll monitor the temperatures
[11:41] <chris80> ehhh, for linux driver support i'd currently stick with nvidia.
[11:42] <axizz> M
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: you can run:   firefox -p     I believe, or simply rename the firefox config folder
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: maybe Yahoo are having issues
[11:42] <argoneus> mumpitze1: guess not
[11:42] <argoneus> argh
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: Nvidia all the way :)
[11:43] <mumpitze1> argoneus: do you still get a vgaswitcheroo file when it's blacklisted?
[11:43] <argoneus> mumpitze1: nope
[11:43] <mumpitze1> :(
[11:43] <kingbeast> AMD and Nvidia both are stepping up their game in the driver department for linux, if you want a card that works, do your research and stop being lazy, make sure it works before you buy it
[11:43] <SwashBuckla> any ideas on how I integrate my program I've made into SysV so it starts at boot?
[11:43] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: no, I have logged on to yahoo with gnome-ubuntu and centos with out any problems
[11:44] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: well sysv is dead on ubuntu
[11:44] <auronandace> !upstart | SwashBuckla
[11:44] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: so you need to look at moving them to upstart of systemd in the longer term depending on how things pan out
[11:44] <SwashBuckla> sorry I meant upstart
[11:45] <SwashBuckla> !upstart
[11:45] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: if you've written upstart jobs, you should be able to drop them in
[11:45] <argoneus> mumpitze1: well
[11:45] <SwashBuckla> I have a start-stop-daemon
[11:45] <argoneus> I think I might have done it now
[11:45] <argoneus> I blacklisted radeon, and added "modprobe radeon" to rc.local and then turned it off
[11:45] <argoneus> with the echo
[11:45] <SwashBuckla> ikonia: I want to get this daemon running at boot
[11:45] <mumpitze1> heh
[11:46] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: ok, so install your upstart jobs
[11:46] <argoneus> mumpitze1: temperatures are going down and it -seems- to wor
[11:46] <argoneus> I'll reboot a few times
[11:48] <cptcel23> ikonia, didn't work - X -configure failed with can't create lockfile
[11:48] <SwashBuckla> ikonia: it looks like this involves creating a job configuration file
[11:48] <axizz> argoneus: how blacklstd radeon
[11:48] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: yes, you said you had created upstart jobs, so I assume you have done this
[11:48] <ikonia> cptcel23: lock file ? if this is in the recovery mode just remove the lock file as there should be no other X session running
[11:48] <ikonia> cptcel23: there is no X session running right ?
[11:48] <auronandace> !blacklist | axizz
[11:49] <SwashBuckla> ikonia: no I have created a start-stop-daemon .sh file. This is all I have created.
[11:49] <cptcel23> ikonia, there wasn't - i've booted normally now
[11:49] <ikonia> cptcel23: ok, so when you where in recovery mode, you couldn't run the X -configure command ?
[11:49] <ikonia> SwashBuckla: ok, so you need to create an upstart job for this
[11:49] <cptcel23> ikonia, correct
[11:49] <ikonia> cptcel23: that seems very od
[11:49] <cptcel23> (and good multitasking ;) )
[11:49] <ikonia> odd even
[11:50] <argoneus> mumpitze1: 3 reboots and so far no freeze or slow boot/shutdown
[11:50] <ikonia> cptcel23: ahhh, I've never seen Xorg complain about a lock file before, but it looks like it creates a lock file in /tmp
[11:50] <ikonia> cptcel23: http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages
[11:50] <ikonia> cptcel23: in all my years I never new that, so clear down /tmp and try again (in my opinion)
[11:50] <ikonia> knew that even
[11:51] <cptcel23> ikonia, not sure if you saw something different on that page, but if you were looking at the 'server is already active for display 0' error - that's not the one I got
[11:52] <ikonia> cptcel23: search for "lock"
[11:52] <cptcel23> ikonia, that's what i did, and it doesn't mention the exact error i got anywhere
[11:52] <ikonia> cptcel23: no it doesn't but apply logic
[11:53] <ikonia> cptcel23: your error message was "can't get exclusive access on lock file"
[11:53] <ikonia> cptcel23: or something like that
[11:53] <cptcel23> ikonia, for starters, it didn't say remove the file and try again, or I would have, it said 'can't create it', not that one already exists
[11:53] <ikonia> cptcel23: this error shows you where the lock file is, so removing it will allow your process to get lock on it
[11:53] <cptcel23> i'll give it a go
[11:53] <cptcel23> brb
[11:55] <bleb> What's the standard way to search for packages in the repos? I'm looking to install CGAL and I find myself googleing "cgal ubuntu package" to find out the name of the package. There must be a slicker way?
[11:55] <bazhang> bleb, apt-cache search
[11:56] <adem_> hi
[11:56] <auronandace> !find cgal | bleb
[11:56] <cptcel23> ikonia, didn't work - no lockfile existed already
[11:57] <bleb> Thanks bazhang
[11:57] <cptcel23> i suspect root shell boots into a read only filesystem
[11:57] <cptcel23> ^^ ikonia sorry
[11:58] <adem_> hi guys you are ashwholes
[11:58] <adem_> hi guys you are ash wholes
[11:58] <adem_> hi guys you are ash wholes
[11:58] <bazhang> adem_, wrong channel
[11:58] <adem_> hi guys you are ash wholes
[11:58] <FloodBot1> adem_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <argoneus> mumpitze1: nevermind, it froze up again
[11:59] <argoneus> :|
[12:00] <argoneus> god damn
[12:00] <jony_easyrider> with firefox 22 TabGroups has stopped working, please help!
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> cptcel23: mount -o remont,rw /
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> cptcel23: will mount it read/write
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: report a bug
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: or use a decent browser :)
[12:01] <SwashBuckla> ikonia: so ok I've created my upstart job config file now. What do I do next?
[12:02] <SwashBuckla> (how do I install my upstart job?)
[12:03] <jony_easyrider> for me Firefox is the best
[12:03] <jony_easyrider> so I want to resolve this issue
[12:03] <cptcel23> ActionParsnip, surely there is a way to switch x drivers without dropping to root shell in recovery mode and remounting / as rw..?!
[12:03] <jony_easyrider> Firefox can be downgraded?
[12:05] <somsip_> jony_easyrider: uninstall the current version, then pin and old version
[12:06] <somsip_> ~pinning | jony_easyrider
[12:06] <somsip_> !pinning | jony_easyrider
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> jony_easyrider  you can easily move and group tabs in firefox
[12:06] <mumpitze1> jony_easyrider: you sure it's not just a simple versioning conflict?
[12:11] <jony_easyrider> I use windows too. I use the same firefox profile on both OS. The ver. of the Firefox is the same and in windows it works ok the TabGroups addon
[12:11] <jony_easyrider> mumpitze1, how can I check it?
[12:14] <mumpitze1> jony_easyrider: I suggest asking a firefox or mozilla channel. not really a ubuntu problem.
[12:14] <cptcel23> anyone know if there's a graphical or cli 'driver chooser' for x in ubuntu?
[12:16] <omniapro> hi guys anyone know how could I set anonymous my connection
[12:17] <DJones> !tor | omniapro
[12:17] <omniapro> I have to use also vidalia with Tor or can i install just tor?
[12:18] <papabur> brb
[12:18] <DJones> omniapro: Can't answer that, I've never used Tor
[12:19] <Greylocks> omniapro yes you need to run both to be secure
[12:20] <axizz> how can i intregate both
[12:20] <Greylocks> learn more here: https://www.torproject.org/index.html.en
[12:21] <axizz> what about generatin password field vadalia>settings
[12:23] <jony_easyrider> how can I install an older version of Firefox?
[12:24] <myalkboy> Hello
[12:26] <myalkboy> Anyone tried to install Ubuntu on Nexus 4
[12:29] <DJones> myalkboy: It might be worth asking that in #ubuntu-touch
[12:30] <myalkboy> DJones: I ask there another question
[12:32] <drupod> hello guys
[12:32] <cfhowlett> drupod, greetings
[12:33] <cptcel23> anyone know how to check which driver x is using?
[12:34] <drupod> can som1 help me with my ubuntu 12.10 gnome remix, i can't adjust screen resolution on my netbook
[12:35] <auronandace> cptcel23: lsmod will show you what is loaded
[12:35] <nb-ben_w> does anyone know when ubuntu phone comes out?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> !phone | nb-ben_w
[12:36] <nb-ben_w> thank you
[12:37] <omniapro> I've installed tor, vidalia and polipo but now when i'm going to open vidalia there's an error message:
[12:37] <drupod> hello guys weh can i find monitor settings on ubuntu 12.10 remix?
[12:37] <omniapro> Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to make sure you specified the correct name and location for the executable Tor.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !touch
[12:39] <gkaklas> omniapro, Does "sudo service tor restart" do anything?
[12:41] <omniapro> i've tried to do "sudo service tor restart but there's the same problem!
[12:44] <Ari-Yang> how do I remove old kernel versions I don't need anymore?
[12:44] <Ari-Yang> what's better, doing it via terminal or Ubuntu Tweak?
[12:44] <auronandace> Ari-Yang: i find it easier with synaptic
[12:45] <linuxmonkey> hey guys whats the command to send a factoid to someone else in a pm?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> linuxmonkey, !factoid>username
[12:45] <auronandace> !pm > linuxmonkey
[12:45] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, do dpkg -l | grep linux-image to identify the old kernel images.. and then proceed to sudo apt-get purge those you don't want
[12:46] <linuxmonkey> ty
[12:46] <BluesKaj_> Ari-Yang, sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-25-* (example)
[12:46] <gkaklas> omniapro, I think that normally tor should be installed in /usr/sbin/tor. Maybe if "whereis tor" shows something else you can fill the correct path in vidalia settings, in the general tab.
[12:46] <Ari-Yang> auronandace, ah I see. ezra-s wait, one by one O__o surely there's a faster way to remove all but the one I'm using
[12:46] <allucinato77> !list
[12:46] <qursk> how am  i gonna install counter strike 1.6 to ubuntu 13.04
[12:46] <cornell> Good morning... I wish to find those packages that I've installed on my Ubuntu machine, as opposed to those that are part of the original install.  I know I can use dpkg to list installed packages, but how do I discriminate between those that Ubuntu installed and those that I installed?
[12:46] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, it takes you 1 minute to do it with terminal like this
[12:47] <Ari-Yang> oh, and does synaptic automatically gun grub-update ?
[12:47] <Ari-Yang> ^ auronandace
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Ari-Yang, fear not the terminal.  sudo grub-update and done ...
[12:47] <omniapro> gkaklas, this is the result ofwhereis tor:     tor: /usr/sbin/tor  /etc/tor  /usr/share/tor  /usr/share/man/man8/tor.8.gz
[12:48] <auronandace> Ari-Yang: yes it will
[12:48] <gkaklas> Ari-Yang, in synaptic you can search for "linux-headers" and "linux-headers" and then purge the ones you don't need anymore
[12:51] <qursk> guys counter strike 1.6 installing in ubuntu 13.04
[12:51] <qursk> i cant
[12:51] <qursk> steam wont work actually cant see cs in steam so thats why cant install it from steam
[12:52] <cfhowlett> qursk, sounds like a steam issue then ... start your troubleshooting there
[12:52] <ss_haze> [filter_transform.so] critical: cannot open input file not_stabilized.mp4.trf!
[12:52] <qursk> but i can find all other games listed expect counter strike
[12:53] <adamk> qursk: Still sounds like a steam issue :-)
[12:53] <qursk> :)))
[12:53] <qursk> ok guys thanks i ll give it a try
[12:54] <qursk> at least how am i gonna run the troubleshoot cause im new in linux thanks
[12:54] <smallmouse> just moved to 13.04 top menu disappears on multiple workspace when i move to another workspace
[12:54] <smallmouse> on classic menu no effects  feels like a windows upgrade
[12:54] <smallmouse> something that worked fine no longer works
[12:56] <gkaklas> omniapro, what is the executable that vidalia is trying tor run?  I've seen it on the lxde desktop, the xfce desktop and the gnome desktop. (Thought maybe it was because I was using XFCE)...
[12:58] <hylian> if i log out and then log back in it is gone.
[12:59] <swagat> I have a weird issue with my ubuntu 12.04. I am unable to play 720p videos. I have a dual boot with windows and those videos work fine on windows. These are local files I am talking about.
[12:59] <wilee-nilee> hylian, Any other left out info like a black screen, that is not much info.
[12:59] <swagat> I am using vlc to play them. Still the same.
[13:00] <smallmouse> swagat: install restricted extras software centre first
[13:00] <cfhowlett> swagat, ONLY the 720 videos are failing
[13:00] <cornell> Can anyone tell me how to alter the order of os's offered by grub at boot?
[13:00] <swagat> restricted extras installed already.
[13:00] <gkaklas> swagat, what's the filetype?
[13:00] <k3n4n> i have ubuntu studio 13.04 and on firefox browser i can not run youtube videos. but in facebook and other video web sites can run webvideos
[13:00] <cornell> On Ubuntu 12.04
[13:00] <TJ-> cornell: the order is controlled by the scripts in /etc/grub.d/
[13:00] <ehhh> i'm looking at graphics cards from nvidia geforce 6xx models, do all nvidia cards use the same drivers in ubuntu?
[13:01] <hylian> wilee-nilee: actually, no. It's just blinking cursors, one about 3 inches to the right of the other. there are also "ghosts" on the screen when I open a window.
[13:01] <smallmouse> k3n4n: have you installed restricted extras
[13:01] <cfhowlett> k3n4n, so NOT local videos, youtube streams ... I'd suspect a flash issue.
[13:01] <k3n4n> i dont know... my other 2 pc'c can't run too
[13:01] <hylian> swagat: do you have ubuntu-restricted-addon installed as well?
[13:02] <swagat> @gkaklas, Those are mkv format
[13:02] <ehhh> that's the only thing scaring me about a gpu upgrade is the drivers
[13:02] <wilee-nilee> hylian, Have you looked in additional drivers, identifying the graphics card is helpful.
[13:02] <swagat> Yes
[13:02] <gkaklas> swagat, what about 720p in e.g. avi?
[13:02] <adamk> ehhh: All modern nvidia GPUs can use the same proprietary driver.
[13:03] <swagat> @hylian yes i have them restricted extras installed. @gkaklas, not sure about avi. need to test
[13:03] <smallmouse> swagat: if you are on 64 bit install flashlugin installer
[13:03] <swagat> Yes I am on 64 bit.
[13:03] <hylian> wilee-nilee: I have. I have the suggested driver installed. This problem goes away if I log out and back in, and It's not always there. It only shows up about 1 in 6 times i boot.
[13:03] <auronandace> ehhh: probably best to avoid anything too new and too old
[13:03] <jony_easyrider> anyone knows a working tab grouping addon for Firefox?
[13:03] <smallmouse> swagat: have you installed flashlpugin installer you need this for 64bit
[13:04] <Ari-Yang> swagat, these are videos that you have on your machine's hardrive, yes?
[13:04] <smallmouse> swagat: software centre
[13:04] <swagat> @smallmouse, will check it. @Ari-Yang - yes
[13:04] <Ari-Yang> swagat, I recommend mplayer/mplayer2/mpv over VLC
[13:04] <swagat> same issues with mplayer
[13:04] <Ari-Yang> and what driver are you using swagat? open source or proprietary?
[13:05] <hylian> swagat: I didn't say the extras, I said the addons. ubuntu-restricted-addon
[13:05] <swagat> i have intel x4500 graphics only. It is a dell 1545 lappy
[13:05] <TJ-> hylian: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues; it sounds like a GPU memory corruption or communications issue
[13:05] <swagat> @hylian, is that available in software center.
[13:05] <ehhh> i was recommended that i won't need a really expensive one so i'm looking at the 6xx series, though he said that is should look for fluid cooled ones (i think, passive cooling over a fan), i've found one that looks compelling specifically the "ASUS GEFORCE GT 620 1GB DDR3 PCI-E VGA/DVI/HDMI" it's relatively cheap though it has fan cooling
[13:05] <Ari-Yang> swagat, go to system settings "Additional Drivers" or go to software sources and go to the "additional drivers" tab
[13:05] <hylian> TJ-: thanks, will do.
[13:06] <wilee-nilee> hylian, Not sure really, others might have some ideas, if you can name the card and driver you are using, more info the better.
[13:06] <omniapro> hi guys anyone know how could I set anonymous my connection
[13:06] <swagat> I am not getting anything new in the additional drivers.
[13:07] <omniapro> sorry for the last message anyway i've tried chmod but nothing
[13:07] <omniapro> same error again
[13:07] <Ari-Yang> swagat, well if you know you didn't install any drivers yourself... you're most likely running open source radeon driver...
[13:07] <hylian> wilee-nilee: thanks for trying to help me! :)
[13:07] <wilee-nilee> sure ;)
[13:08] <ehhh> will the fan generate a lot of noise ? it's specifically so i can get hdmi or dvi instead of vga, media center pc for music and videos
[13:08] <hylian> swagat: it probably is, I don't use the software center. I just sudo apt-get install. But I would assume it's in their under some name.
[13:08] <saiarcot895> omniapro: are you unable to launch tor through vidalia?
[13:09] <hylian> TJ-: here's my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804684/. I will dig through it myself, but if your up to it, a second pair of eyes coldn't hurt.
[13:09] <ikonia> ehhh: read the spec on the card you plan to buy, it should tell you the fan noise, other people can't know how loud a fan will be to your perception
[13:09] <cornell> Thanks TJ-, could you be more explicit?   I've found 90-linux_proxy, with a couple lines about ubuntu, and 90_os-prober_proxy,  with lines about mint and windows 7.  But when grub offers the list, it's mint, ubuntu, windows.  Not the order indicated by the scripts.
[13:09] <swagat> @hylian ubuntu-restricted-addon is already installed
[13:10] <ehhh> ikonia: the computer itself i dont know if you recall but it will be stored in midst two speakers and music is almost always playing so i'm pretty sure i'd turn a deaf ear to it, though i guess the fan noise is stated in db, what would be a reasonable amount for reference?
[13:11] <ikonia> ehhh: again - thats up to you to work out, "how loud is a fan" is not an ubuntu problem
[13:11] <auronandace> ehhh: sounds like a question for ##hardware rather than #ubuntu
[13:11] <TJ-> cornell: Those scripts don't sound like Ubuntu-installed versions; which release of Ubuntu is it? It sounds as if you've got an interaction with Mint going on there
[13:12] <Ari-Yang> swagat, can you elaborate on "being unable to play 720p videos"?
[13:12] <Ari-Yang> like what do you get when you try?
[13:12] <ehhh> i'll give a peep in #hardware
[13:12] <cornell> Well, the machine started with Windows 7, I added Ubuntu 12.04, and just this week added mint.
[13:12] <ikonia> ehhh: ##hardware - not #hardware
[13:12] <swagat> Well the video lags and I hear audio
[13:12] <saiarcot895> ehhh: according to a website, a refrigerator is 40dB and a conversation is 60 dB
[13:12] <ehhh> #hardware took me to ##hardware :P
[13:13] <swagat> @Ari-Yang, How do I install video drivers for my intel 4500?
[13:13] <ikonia> swagat: they should already be installed
[13:13] <cornell> TJ-: does that indicate that mint "reworked" the grub.  Meaning I should be asking in a mint room instead of ubuntu?
[13:13] <ehhh> well if a fridge is around 40db i'd really think i should stay below atleast 25 . . i'll figure
[13:13] <joncam> So -- odd question.  I have a laptop with an occasional secondary monitor; I have the standard Unity 2x2 virtual desktop arrangement.  Is there any way to break the external monitor off of that, and have 2x2 only on one screen, and the other screen just one "static" display/workspace?  Not finding GUI settings to manage this, nor the right google terms
[13:13] <TJ-> hylian: I'd expect faults to show up with the prefix (EE) (for error) but I don't see anything. This may sound silly, but have you simply opened up the PC and re-seated the graphics card. I've seen those symptoms in the past when the edge connector end furthest from the rear of the case has lifted a millimeter or so with heat expansion/contraction and general vibration.
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> swagat, if you don't see anything in additional drivers, then most likely, there aren't any for that card
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> swagat, and tbh the open source driver is better than the proprietary
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> anyways
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> please elaborate
[13:14] <Ari-Yang> what is the 720p video like when you try to play it?
[13:14] <k3n4n> i have ubuntu studio 13.04 and on firefox browser i can not run youtube videos. but in facebook and other video web sites can run webvideos
[13:15] <TJ-> cornell: It does - but which ever OS it is, the scripts in /etc/grub.d/ are executed in name order, which is why the names start with numbers (easier to sort numbers), so to change the order in the grub menu rename those scripts with numbers in the order you want
[13:15] <ikonia> k3n4n: there will be limits to youtube as flash plugin compatabiliy moves away from linux
[13:15] <ezra-s> swagat, try the intel drivers site -> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[13:15] <ikonia> k3n4n: I'd suggest checking the html5 youtube website
[13:15] <hylian> TJ-: well, first of all, this is a cheap laptop. but second of all, a simple log out and log in solves this, so I am assuming something is happening too early or too late. and this only happens one in 6 boots.
[13:15] <swagat> @Ari-Yang, The video lags a lot and I head unsync audio. When I try to seek, it wakes it worse
[13:15] <ikonia> swagat: you do not need additional intel drivers, they are already part of xorg
[13:16] <swagat> cool
[13:16] <cornell> Thanks TJ-, but most seem to be... setup kind of things... themes and images and stuff.  The two I mentioned are the only that mention os's.
[13:16] <ezra-s> Google Chrome has and updated flash version in it, it is offtopic to #ubuntu though
[13:16] <StaticWIN> I really screwed my openldap up is there a way to wipe it so its like I just installed it?
[13:16] <swagat> Just for reference guys:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/312784/720p-video-lags-on-ubuntu-12-04
[13:16] <TJ-> hylian: I'm suspecting 'heat'. When the GPU is reset maybe it clears the issue. Have you searched for indications that the model of laptop is affecting by GPU overheating? E.g. the Dell XPS m1530 has many issues there
[13:17] <omniapro> saiarcot895 yes vidalia gives me an error message like there:  Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to make sure you specified the correct name and location for the executable Tor.
[13:17] <k3n4n> ikonia> k3n4n: I'd suggest checking the html5 youtube website: -> HOW?
[13:17] <Ari-Yang> (ikonia, he was referring to proprietary.) swagat you might be missing some stuff.... I say you download and install mpv (an active up-to-date fork of mplayer/mplayer2) https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build
[13:17] <saiarcot895> omniapro: And you're using the tor and vidalia package from ubuntu?
[13:17] <Ari-Yang> scroll down
[13:18] <Ari-Yang> there are installation instructions for ubuntu
[13:18] <TJ-> cornell: Read the scripts; they're not too hard to understand. Also, refer to /boot/grub/grub.cfg, read it, each script in /etc/grub.d/ inserts content into that file, and if I recall correctly, it prefixes the content it adds with a comment "# ..." with the script's name so you know which script is responsible
[13:18] <omniapro> saiarcot895 yes i've installed them from terminal
[13:18] <StaticWIN> anyone ? =\
[13:18] <Ari-Yang> swagat, after you git clone, there will be a mpv-build in your home directory, cd into and first get the required dependencies
[13:18] <gkaklas> swagat, i recently had problems with my intel card. I just upgraded my kernel to its newest version and installed "linux-firmware-nonfree".
[13:18] <ikonia> StaticWIN: saying "anyone" randomly is pointless
[13:19] <TJ-> StaticWIN: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package-name>"
[13:19] <StaticWIN> ty TJ
[13:19] <TJ-> StaticWIN: or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package-name>"
[13:19] <saiarcot895> omniapro: Did you add the line "/usr/sbin/tor Ux," to vidalia's apparmor profile?
[13:19] <Ari-Yang> swagat, run sudo apt-get install git automake
[13:19] <swagat> Will try the fix guys and update you. Need a couple of hours to test.
[13:21] <omniapro> saiarcot895, do you mean in settings>general?
[13:21] <saiarcot895> no
[13:21] <hylian> TJ-: actually, as cheap as this thing was, ($260 bucks), it's not prone to heat issues. And windows never has an issue, even when running a solid vid game. Even 12.04 32 bit has no issue. It's only when I have 12.04 64bit installed that i get this.
[13:21] <k3n4n> ikonia: my browser dont open youtube html5
[13:21] <saiarcot895> omniapro: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vidalia/+bug/680192/comments/9
[13:21] <ikonia> k3n4n: what ?
[13:22] <LogiM> hi, qmail seems to have broken overnight (due to a failed plesk update from what i can tell) - can anyone here with experience of qmail help me identify the problem? i'm thinking if i can find what the plesk update broke i can just fix that directly?
[13:22] <ikonia> LogiM: errr is this a hosted vm ?
[13:22] <TJ-> hylian: Ahhh! good info then
[13:22] <k3n4n> you say i must try youtube html5 for watching videos?!
[13:22] <ikonia> k3n4n: right, so have you tried the youtube html5 site ?
[13:23] <hylian> TJ-: i forgot to mention, kde-workbase does not cause this issue. But I can't stomache kde, so... :)
[13:23] <saiarcot895> omniapro: You can probably add that line in /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.bin.vidalia instead of the main apparmor profile
[13:23] <ezra-s> LogiM, that's offtopic here
[13:23] <omniapro> saiarcot895 ok, I'm trying to do it!
[13:23] <k3n4n> ikonia: yes, but my browser cant open it
[13:23] <TJ-> hylian: Hmmm... compiz issue maybe?
[13:24] <ikonia> k3n4n: how are you trying to visit it ?
[13:24] <hylian> TJ-: well, if and when it happens again, I'll screen shoot it and bug it at launchpad. Thanks for the help.
[13:24] <Ari-Yang> when I remove an old kernel, everything related to that kernel is removed too right? like if I remove the kernel image if 3.5.0-17, the headers for it of the same version as that kernel (3.5.0-17) will be removed as well,yes?
[13:24] <marianne> Running 12.04 - question on uptime. I remember when it was a once a month thing to restart my 'puter, now it seems to be a once a week thing. How is everybody else looking in regards to uptime?
[13:24] <k3n4n> http://www.youtube.com/html5?hl=tr&gl=TR
[13:24] <hylian> TJ-: hmm, i'll have to check that, thanks TJ.
[13:24] <ikonia> k3n4n: did you click "join the html5 trial" ?
[13:25] <k3n4n> ok, now i try it
[13:26] <gkaklas> k3n4n, do other flash websites work?
[13:26] <Ari-Yang>  09:26:11 up 2 days, 11:20,  3 users,  load average: 0.15, 0.18, 0.16
[13:26] <ikonia> Ari-Yang: ?
[13:26] <TJ-> marianne: usually it is kernel updates that require restarts
[13:27] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, no, headers go separately in different packages, dpkg -l | grep linux-header
[13:27] <marianne> TJ: i did do an update this morning. yeah, I'm one of those that just clicks update all, so maybe that was it
[13:27] <k3n4n> gkaklas: yes
[13:27] <k3n4n> ikonia: yes i have now click on it
[13:28] <cornell> TJ-, the thing I'm not understanding is the ordering of it.  Reading the scripts, it seems that Ubuntu is handled first, then Windows, then Mint, but when the list is offered, Mint is first, then Ubuntu and then Windows.  I also note that there seems to be two pair of scripts of interest, 10-linux-proxy and 14-os-prober_proxy, followed by 90-linux-proxy and 90-os-prober_proxy.  Both pairs seem to be doing the same thing.  Could that be the problem, the redun
[13:28] <ikonia> k3n4n: come on !!! how do you expect to visit the html5 if you've not clicked on the "join html5" button
[13:28] <yossarianuk> what is the best way of doing SSD + RAID + TRIM at present? For Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:28] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, ah I see
[13:28] <omniapro> saiarcot895, in the post that you linked me, there's written that I have to add that line to that file, i have to add it in a specific position?
[13:28] <ikonia> yossarianuk: a true hardware controller,
[13:29] <ikonia> yossarianuk: no other way is wise
[13:29] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, so to remove an old kernel I have to purge the image and the header, correct?
[13:29] <TJ-> cornell: That may depend on *which* OS you last ran "sudo update-grub" from - if it was Mint, then I'd expect it to list it's entries first
[13:29] <saiarcot895> omniapro: no, anywhere
[13:29] <saiarcot895> omniapro: scratch that, within the braces
[13:29] <TJ-> cornell: but if Ubuntu, then /etc/grub.d/10_linux would get in there first
[13:30] <yossarianuk> ikonia: we have HP Smart Array RAID cards - they do not support TRIM..
[13:30] <k3n4n> ikonia: i have do it
[13:30] <papabur> python: can't open file 'skeinforge/skeinforge_application/skeinforge_utilities/skeinforge_craft.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[13:31] <ikonia> yossarianuk: yes, trim is a problem, but that's not going to change
[13:31] <cornell> Seems reasonably TJ-, that Mint would be first, I just want to change the order, Ubuntu's my primary, Mint, I'm checking out, and Windows is for the other half.
[13:31] <yossarianuk> ikonia: so should I just use no TRIM?
[13:31] <yossarianuk> and HWRAID
[13:31] <|Anthony|> i need to setup a cron script to transfer files (copy then delete) from a remote server to my local machine. I use ssh with RSA keys but i do have a passphrase. How can i accomplish this transfer via cron?
[13:31] <ikonia> yossarianuk: well, you certainly don't want to use software raid, especially for mirroring SSD's
[13:32] <TJ-> cornell: Presumably Mint and Ubuntu don't share their /etc/ directory so you'll have 2 separate installations to cope with. Get it right in one and only allow grub updates from that one
[13:32] <ehhh> ok i'm wondering one thing (if this is hardware related i can't send messages in ##hardware for some reason) i want to check the temperatures of my computer to determine whether it's safe to leave it running all the time or if i should occasionally switch it off, does anyone know how to check and what temperatures it should be running at before raising an eye? the side lid is off so it should be properly cooled anyway i think
[13:32] <PashaPasta> |Anthony|: that can be done with scp or sftp and spawn an expect to handle the passphrase
[13:33] <auronandace> !register | ehhh
[13:33] <ikonia> ehhh: this is for ##hardware
[13:33] <ikonia> ehhh: you need to register your account on freenode to use ##hardware
[13:33] <TJ-> !lm_sensors|ehhh
[13:34] <ehhh> can i change my nick later if i want to?
[13:34] <TJ-> !lmsensors|TJ-
[13:34] <|Anthony|> PashaPasta: "and spawn an expect to handle the passphrase" What does that mean?
[13:34] <PashaPasta> |Anthony|: or you could just remove the passphrase from your RSA key and script it out that way
[13:34] <ikonia> ehhh: #freenode can explain how the system works
[13:34] <TJ-> !lmsensors > ehhh
[13:34] <saiarcot895> !sensors
[13:34] <auronandace> ehhh: the point of registering a nick is so that its yours to use
[13:34] <cornell> TJ-.. of course.  Two different etc's.   mmmm, but when the machine first boots...  grub has to point to one.  Mint was last, so the boot process is set to point to Mint's... and I'm looking at Ubuntu's, and that's why things are screwy.  I need to boot into Mint and look at Mint's /boot and /etc.
[13:35] <Ari-Yang> I just found out about linux image extra, I'll remove that as well as the image and the headers
[13:35] <ehhh> thanks :)
[13:35] <PashaPasta> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26480/how-to-auto-type-password-for-scp-or-sftp-to-automate-it or http://www.thinkplexx.com/learn/howto/security/ssl/remove-passphrase-password-from-private-rsa-key
[13:35] <PashaPasta> up to you
[13:35] <|Anthony|> ah
[13:35] <cornell> I don't know if that solves my problem, TJ-, but it certainly indicates I'm looking for the solution in the wrong place.
[13:36] <cornell> Thanks much TJ-
[13:36] <TJ-> cornell: No, when the system boots the BIOS bootstraps GRUB which mounts the /boot/ file-system which contains /boot/grub/, which reads /boot/grub/grub.cfg and shows the menu. It doesn't know about a file-system that contains /etc/ until an OS is started and a root file-system mounted, unless /boot/ is part of one or other of the root file-systems
[13:36] <cornell> mmmm
[13:36] <cornell> Both os's use the same /boot?
[13:36] <TJ-> cornell: I'm so used to always installing /boot/ to a separate file-system I can't remember if Ubuntu does that by default nowadays!
[13:37] <LogiM> ikonia: yes
[13:37] <TJ-> cornell: One boot-loader, usually one /boot/ file-system, multiple root file-systems for each OS
[13:37] <cornell> Up to this week, I've only used two os's, Windows and Ubuntu... first time trying three.
[13:37] <ikonia> LogiM: you should talk to your hosting provider then as most of these are modified ubuntu builds - rather than standard
[13:38] <TJ-> When you get past three, its time for Xen virtual machine hypervisor!
[13:38] <LogiM> ikonia: tried that - finding out that they are pretty crapping - they're saying that basically it's self-managed so they're not interested
[13:39] <LogiM> it's running plesk 9.x
[13:39] <ikonia> LogiM: that can't be the case, as it's been updated,
[13:39] <ehhh> ok it's not above 25 degrees celcius so i'm guessing i'm safe
[13:39] <ikonia> LogiM: plesk is not part of ubuntu
[13:39] <cornell> TJ-, does that mean that you'd have multiple partitions, one, well two, for Windows, another for /boot, that both linuxes use, then another for the rest of Ubuntu and another for the rest of Mint?
[13:39] <LogiM> ikonia: I was just pointing out which custom build it is
[13:40] <AutumnSt> please
[13:40] <AutumnSt> please help
[13:40] <ikonia> LogiM: not really something this channel support, and plesk is not a custom build, it's just a managment front end
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !details|AutumnSt,
[13:40] <auronandace> cornell: if you are using the same /boot for muint and ubuntu expect something to break
[13:40] <AutumnSt> yeah, thanks, I was getting there
[13:40] <AutumnSt> I'm on 13.04 + chrome, and my youtube videos aren't working right
[13:40] <AutumnSt> they're running slightly fast
[13:40] <cornell> Speaking of which, TJ-, could I have one paritition for /home and mount it for Mint and Ubuntu?
[13:40] <AutumnSt> like 5%
[13:41] <TJ-> Well, I generally have 4 primary partitions: 1=/boot/ (512MB)  2=swap/hibernate (8GB) 3=Windows, 4=LVM
[13:41] <LogiM> ikonia: i'm thinking it should be possible to check how qmail is broke though, right?
[13:41] <gordonjcp> cornell: that will mostly work
[13:41] <TJ-> cornell: Yes, you could
[13:41] <ikonia> LogiM: qmail can only be run one way - check the life with qmail guide
[13:41] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, yes, correct
[13:41] <cornell> For what it's worth, I'll eventually get back to two.  I just want to check out Mint, and see if I prefer it.
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> AutumnSt  try chromium, maybe it's better and it's in the repos https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[13:41] <TJ-> cornell: I use LVM LVs so I can move, resize, snapshot and everything else very easily later on
[13:41] <PashaPasta> mint is great
[13:42] <AutumnSt> MonkeyDust, from my understanding, chromium doesn't exist
[13:42] <AutumnSt> last time I went to grab it, all the chromium download links went to google chrome's official page
[13:42] <saiarcot895> AutumnSt: chromium is the open-source version of chrome
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> AutumnSt  true, it's chromium-browser
[13:42] <cfhowlett> AutumnSt, ??? chromium-browser works just fine and it's in the software center
[13:42] <cornell> Yeah, I really should get into LVM's, TJ-.
[13:42] <LogiM> ikonia: ok, but before i set out on this path, i just wanted to check - it's a reasonable approach right? i'm not wasting my time am i?
[13:42] <cornell> Thanks all.
[13:43] <cornell> Time for me to run.
[13:43] <cornell> TTFN
[13:43] <ikonia> LogiM: something is broken....and you think working out why its broken may be a waste of time ?
[13:43] <LogiM> ikonia: :) fair enough
[13:44] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, looks like the headers for the version I'm purging isn't even installed. I just ran dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep 3.5.0-17 | awk -F' ' '{ print $2 }'
[13:44] <Ari-Yang>  and only image and image-extra is related. synaptic only says those 2 are installed as well and the headers aren't too, so that's good :T
[13:44] <omniapro> saiarcot895, in settings>advanced in vidalia at control tor what i've to put?
[13:45] <saiarcot895> omniapro: by default,it uses ControlSocket, and the config file and data directory should be somewhere in /etc and /var
[13:45] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, I'm sure you can be as precise with no errors with dpkg -l | grep linux-header
[13:45] <Xseven> Hey. I have a really annoying issue: on occasion, Firefox or other apps like Gimp, use up all my RAM and my box freezes completely. Is it possible to configure the OS to automatically execute `killall firefox` when remaining RAM is less than, say 100MB?
[13:45] <saiarcot895> omniapro: If you click Ok, are you getting an error saying that the ControlSocket doesn't exist?
[13:45] <omniapro> no
[13:46] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, yeah, even dpkg -l | grep linux-header doesn't list headers for kernel 3.5.0-17
[13:46] <jrib>  Xseven what should happen when you run out of memory is that a process gets killed
[13:46] <Ari-Yang> I guess it was just removed then *shrugs*
[13:46] <saiarcot895> omniapro: You're not getting an error? In that case, try starting Tor
[13:46] <yossarianuk> ikonia: thanks for the info
[13:46] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, I guess over a period of time of updating kernel, old headers are removed?
[13:46] <PashaPasta> Xseven: sounds like you have a leak somewhere
[13:46] <Xseven> jrib, right
[13:47] <Galaxor> If I'm looking to install ubuntu over a serial console, do I need the Alternate CD?
[13:48] <omniapro> wait cause i've tried to "sudo restart vidalia" so the config file is in /var/run/tor/control and now there's the error saying controlsocket doesn't exist
[13:49] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, I believe the behaviour has changed recently, earlier old kernels and headers were not removed, but I believe they are now...
[13:50] <Xseven> PashaPasta, I do see Firefox using more and more RAM as I use more and more websites.. maybe it's leaking, dunno, but if I could kill it when I run out of RAM, then this issue would be resolved for me.
[13:50] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, right.
[13:50] <Xseven> As it reopens tabs from last time, and on restart uses less ram. I just got my whole box knocked down by vising Google Analytics page :/
[13:51] <PashaPasta> Xseven: you could try using ulimit to limit the amount of RAM firefox is using
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> Galaxor  better ask in #ubuntu-server -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[13:52] <TJ-> Galaxor: you can use Alternate, or the minimal (net-boot) if there's ethernet connectivity too. You'd have to add options to the kernel's command-line as soon as the installer starts of course
[13:52] <saiarcot895> omniapro: try closing out Vidalia, do "sudo service restart tor", and then open Vidalia
[13:52] <saiarcot895> omniapro: I mean fully closing Vidalia
[13:53] <Xseven> PashaPasta, I'll give that a try. Thanks.
[13:53] <Galaxor> TJ-: You mean, when I boot up, I'll have to add stuff on the grub command line before booting?
[13:54] <Galaxor> TJ-: Does grub work over the serial console?
[13:54] <omniapro> ok there's no error about control socket now
[13:54] <omniapro> but there's even the error: Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to make sure you specified the correct name and location for the executable Tor.
[13:54] <TJ-> Galaxor: I believe so, I don't recall seeing anything there by default - it'd need grub set-up to use a serial console, and the kernel console=ttyS0 etc
[13:54] <saiarcot895> omniapro: after you start tor through terminal? Hmmm
[13:54] <lolyou> loooo
[13:55] <omniapro> yes i'm gonna crazy!! even the same error i've tried about everything
[13:56] <TJ-> Galaxor: Does the motherboard BIOS support serial console ?
[13:56] <Galaxor> TJ-: Hm.  I'm trying to install ubuntu in a virtualbox vm, and I only have ssh access to the host machine (not physical access)
[13:56] <Galaxor> TJ-: motherboard bios = virtualbox.
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, success, removed selected old kernels :3
[13:57] <TJ-> Galaxor: OK, well, you can access the console via the VM. Never used VirtualBox; I use QEMU/KVM, libvirt and Xen extensively though
[13:57] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, about time...
[13:57] <saiarcot895> omniapro: Can you open your Home folder, show hidden files (ctrl-h to do this), and scroll down till you see .tor and/or .vidalia?
[13:57] <TJ-> Galaxor: And as you're starting a VM I assume you can also 'edit' the boot ISO image so that GRUB and the kernel know to use the serial console
[13:57] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, lol xD (I was multi-tasking :b)
[13:58] <Ari-Yang> thanks for telling me those list commands
[13:58] <saiarcot895> omniapro: wait, when you first installed tor, did you add yourself to the debian-tor group?
[13:58] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, one has to look a compromise between fashionable and practical, sometimes the ideal way of doing things or finding about it is not practical in a timely fashion, the answer I gave you fills the gap in one minute.. yet you spent... 30 minutes seeking for alternatives
[13:59] <ezra-s> Ari-Yang, in any case, congrats ;)
[13:59] <Galaxor> TJ-: Hm.  I suppose I could edit the iso.  I was hoping that the alternate install already had grub configured to work over the serial console, though.  That way I don't have to figure out how to do it.
[13:59] <omniapro> well I can see both the folder but no i didn't add myself to debian.tor group
[13:59] <bmxscott1993> #MakeUseOf
[14:00] <saiarcot895> omniapro: That would be at least half of the problem
[14:00] <TJ-> Galaxor: What I did - for PXE boots on my network - is explode the ISO into directories precisely so I could add serial console entries for testing
[14:00] <saiarcot895> omniapro: run "sudo usermod <userName> -a -G debian-tor
[14:00] <Ari-Yang> ezra-s, but it took me 5min. to find an alternative (found some kernel removing scripts), and it took me 1min to remove the kernel I wanted to remove. My multi-tasking had nothing to do with me searching for alternatives, was reading articles >__>
[14:00] <TJ-> Galaxor: You can mostly work from this in regrds to GRUB  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[14:01] <Ari-Yang> but yeah, thanks again :>
[14:01] <Galaxor> TJ-: Thanks.
[14:03] <omniapro> ok i do it now?
[14:03] <saiarcot895> omniapro: Yes, try starting Tor from "sudo service restart tor", and then open Vidalia
[14:04] <TJ-> saiarcot895: omniapro That should be "sudo service tor restart"
[14:04] <saiarcot895> TJ-: thanks, my bad
[14:04] <omniapro> yes i know that command but again same error
[14:05] <TJ-> omniapro: When in doubt, check the logs in /var/log/ - First thing I do when an issue occurs is look to see which log file(s) were updated last, with "ls -latr /var/log/"
[14:07] <omniapro> -rw-r-----  1 syslog            adm    50469 giu 27 16:06 auth.log
[14:07] <omniapro> -rw-r-----  1 syslog            adm   281901 giu 27 16:06 syslog
[14:07] <omniapro> -rw-r-----  1 syslog            adm   161437 giu 27 16:06 kern.log
[14:07] <omniapro> last 3 logs file updated
[14:09] <saiarcot895> omniapro: from what I can tell, tor stores its logs in /var/log/tor/log
[14:10] <saiarcot895> omniapro: try tail /var/log/tor/log, and paste the output to pastebin
[14:13] <k3n4n> i can not play flash videos, what can i do? i have ubuntu studio13.04 and firefox
[14:15] <linuxmania> Hi i need help regarding compiz tool
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> k3n4n: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[14:16] <linuxmania> when i use Compiz my minimizing and cross Bar Disappear
[14:16] <k3n4n> No LSB modules are available.
[14:16] <k3n4n> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[14:16] <k3n4n> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[14:16] <k3n4n> Release:	12.04
[14:16] <k3n4n> Codename:	precise
[14:16] <k3n4n> Linux K3n4n-Vostro-1015 3.2.0-48-lowlatency #50-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Sat Jun 8 16:00:47 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:16] <FloodBot1> k3n4n: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <linuxmania> No help :(
[14:18] <k3n4n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804837/
[14:20] <adamk> k3n4n: In your browser, does 'about:plugins' in the location bar show the flash plugin?
[14:20] <yossarianuk> k3n4n: try 'sudo apt-get install lsb-base lsb-release'
[14:20] <dhci> When I run sensors I see that my NB and SB temperatures (north bridge and south bridge) have gone beyond the high threshold, approaching about 54 deg C -- also my power supply seems to have risen in temperature too, where as before a 750w supply felt like the system was lightly loading it now it seems like it is doing more work. is the motherboard shot?
[14:22] <jmagder> Anyone here running bumblebee with an external monitor? :)
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> jmagder, You need to state the actual problem for help.
[14:23] <jmagder> wilee-nilee: Ok, no problem.  Here it goes.
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[14:23] <Pici> dhci: That might be a better question for ##hardware
[14:24] <jmagder> I'm running bumblebee on a W520. Almost everything works.  Yay!
[14:24] <jmagder> The problem is that I want my external monitor to be my 'primary' desktop.
[14:24] <jmagder> I've been running: xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary --auto --output VIRTUAL --mode 1920x1080 --right-of LVDS1
[14:24] <jmagder> to turn on the external monitor.
[14:25] <jmagder> The --primary switch doesn't seem to do anything however.  I figure I'm doing something wrong.
[14:29] <linuxmania> helloo any one can Help me here regarding Compiz
[14:29] <reisio> nope, but some people could
[14:29] <linuxmania> and those some ppl are ??
[14:29] <wilee-nilee> !ask > Linux38025
[14:29] <wilee-nilee> !ask > linuxmania
[14:30] <linuxmania> wilee my Compiz disappears my Minimizing and maximizing bar
[14:31] <wilee-nilee> linuxmania, Tell the channel not me, I was just pointing out stating the problem for the channel is the norm. ;)
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> linuxmania: on top of each window?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> linuxmania: its called a 'Window decorator'
[14:31] <linuxmania> Yes on every window
[14:32] <xinyu> hi all
[14:33] <linuxmania> problem is still there after i checked The Decorator
[14:34] <reisio> xinyu: hi
[14:36] <linuxmania> where are the Red dudes O_O
[14:36] <reisio> ->
[14:38] <roSievers> Hi, I accidentally pulled the plug on my running backup (Déjà Dup), now it complains about (translated from german): “critical error: The Manifest in the backend does not match the local one. Either ...” - How do I tell déjà dup it to fix the backend?
[14:39] <roSievers> To be precise, starting a new backup leads to this error
[14:39] <Ari-Yang> is it possible to set specific frequency for the gpu instead of using the power_profile ("low","mid","high","auto","default") in /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile ?
[14:39] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:39] <Ari-Yang> I'm currently set to "mid" but I have a light lag on some webpages..
[14:40] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:40] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:40] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibitedi cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:40] <FloodBot1> ghar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:40] <ghar> i cannot format my usb drive. it says daemon is inhibited
[14:40] <wilee-nilee> welcome to ignore ghar
[14:40] <ghar> thanks wilee
[14:40] <Ari-Yang> !tmi
[14:41] <wilee-nilee> you to
[14:41] <ghar> does anybody know the issue... i tried with disk utility and even with gpated
[14:41] <ghar> *gparted
[14:42] <ghar> but cannot delete partition and cannot format the drive
[14:42] <ghar> it says daemon is inhibited...
[14:42] <ghar> anyone help...
[14:42] <Ari-Yang> ghar, be patient, if someone knows and offers his/her help, you will get it.
[14:43] <PashaPasta> ghar: sudo killall udisks   run that in terminal and you should be good go
[14:44] <laseind> un distro o programa bueno para rastreat contraseñas wifi??
[14:44] <reisio> ghar: or maybe just open your file manager and make sure it's not mounted
[14:44] <laseind> que funcione...?
[14:44] <reisio> laseind: #ubuntu-es
[14:44] <ghar> tnx pashapasta
[14:44] <reisio> laseind: networkmanager
[14:44] <Ari-Yang> oh, I should mention my current MHz of my gpu (at least I think it's my gpu) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=dDYmh4Xk
[14:44] <PashaPasta> laseind: wicd
[14:45] <caelan> Hello!
[14:45] <Ari-Yang> that the power_profiler being set to mid)
[14:45] <laseind> para sacarle la contraseña a mi vecino=?
[14:45] <ikonia> Ari-Yang: who are you telling this informaiton to and why ?
[14:45] <PashaPasta> en ingles?
[14:45] <Pici> !es | laseind
[14:45] <reisio> laseind: oh, heheh
[14:45] <reisio> laseind: I doubt that's allowed here :p
[14:45] <Ari-Yang> ikonia, just throwing it out there, I asked a question earlier: "is it possible to set specific frequency for the gpu instead of using the power_profile ("low","mid","high","auto","default") in /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile?"
[14:45] <laseind> ok thanks..
[14:46] <Ari-Yang> ikonia, my question got lost in the chat >__>
[14:46] <caelan> I'm having a problem with ALSA right now. I have an Asus Xonar DG sound card, and I just cannot get the front panel ports to work. I have checked everywhere online for a solution, but I have come to no solution. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks!
[14:46] <laseind> i need a distro to hack wifi, that works!!!
[14:46] <PashaPasta> laseind: what you are looking for is aircrack-ng but you should only use that for testing your own wifi of course ;)
[14:46] <ikonia> laseind: you need to not ask in here
[14:46] <laseind> thanks......
[14:46] <PashaPasta> use Kali linux
[14:46] <xx> how do i know which network card i have?
[14:46] <xx> does nayone have a command line?
[14:47] <caelan> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 BTW.
[14:47] <laseind> iw config
[14:47] <ikonia> that won't show you your card model
[14:47] <auronandace> xx: lspci
[14:48] <caelan> And if this is any help, I hear a slight pop when I select to correct device to use in the "Sound" section in "Settings". That leads me to believe something is happening. But no sound is coming from any source.
[14:48] <reisio> xx: sudo lspci | grep -i net
[14:49] <xx> thanks auronandace and reisio <3
[14:49] <TJ-> xx: "lspci -nn | egrep -i '(ether|net|wireless)'"
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> xx: sudo lshw -C network
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ^ easier
[14:50] <reisio> xx: lspci should suffice :p
[14:50] <xx> lol i got it guys
[14:50] <xx> thanks a lot <3
[14:51] <caelan> Can anybody help with my problem? Thanks in advance.
[14:51] <reisio> caelan: nope, but some people can...
[14:51] <reisio> ...if you say what it is
[14:51] <caelan> I have already... "I'm having a problem with ALSA right now. I have an Asus Xonar DG sound card, and I just cannot get the front panel ports to work. I have checked everywhere online for a solution, but I have come to no solution. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks!"
[14:51] <caelan> "And if this is any help, I hear a slight pop when I select to correct device to use in the "Sound" section in "Settings". That leads me to believe something is happening. But no sound is coming from any source."
[14:52] <caelan> And I am using Ubuntu 13.04
[14:52] <reisio> caelan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[14:52] <reisio> caelan: try different model values until it works
[14:52] <TJ-> caelan: Do the ports physically work?
[14:52] <reisio> caelan: ahem, assuming it uses that driver, that is :)
[14:52] <caelan> reisio: OK, I'll give it a go. So basically, you are saying to try a different driver?
[14:53] <reisio> caelan: no I'm saying if your box uses that particular audio driver, read that page and try different model values
[14:53] <caelan> TJ: yes, the ports work fine on Windows.
[14:53] <TJ-> caelan: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/919809
[14:54] <caelan> reisio: I'll give it a go.
[14:54] <caelan> ubottu: OK, So that means they haven't fixed it?
[14:54] <caelan> OK.
[14:55] <reisio> caelan: not exactly, it means nobody aware of that bug who has potentially figured out how to fix it has said how :p
[14:57] <caelan> Really? It's been over a year, and they haven't fixed it?
[14:57] <reisio> caelan: is that so surprising?
[14:57] <ezra-s> lol
[14:57] <reisio> nobody is paying these people
[14:58] <reisio> and there are probably superior cards that already just work
[14:58] <reisio> if you want to complain to someone, complain to the xonar people, whoever they are
[14:58] <reisio> or just take your lumps and choose hardware more wisely next time :)
[15:04] <caelan> That was no queue to have a go at me. I was not moaning about them. I understand fully, and I appreciate that these people do this for free. But I've just seen bugs like this fixed much faster.
[15:05] <caelan> reisio: ^
[15:05] <reisio> just saying
[15:06] <reisio> bugs get fixed by people who are affected by them who are willing to do the work
[15:07] <xx> how do i enable proprietary drivers?
[15:08] <reisio> xx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers
[15:09] <TJ-> caelan: If you check the Alsa web-site you'll see that the developer of the snd-oxygen driver (Clemens Ladisch) for the C-Media CMI8788 APU sound chipset, has a ToDo that hasn't been updated since April 2012. That indicates he has moved on to other interests.
[15:10] <caelan> TJ-: OK, Thanks. for the info.
[15:10] <xx> reisio: i meant network drivers
[15:12] <adamk> xx: What makes you think you there is a proprietary driver availalbe?  If there were one packaged for Ubuntu, you should have been told of it's availability.
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> xx, go to "Additional Drivers" tab in software sources (or search for the option, not sure if you're on 12.04 or greater) and see if you see a wifi driver
[15:15] <Ari-Yang> if you don't see any, then there isn't any I guess...
[15:16] <TJ-> caelan: This is the latest ALSA driver history I can find:  http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=history;f=sound/pci/oxygen/xonar_dg.c;h=77acd790ea4796b94c779fd72c1a8be861c4aa9e;hb=HEAD
[15:17] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hi, I'm getting some strange output when running "apt-cache show kde-runtime | grep -i version"... It shows that I have 4 versions of kde... the output: http://pastebin.com/TiNQG9Kp
[15:18] <Safa_[A_boy]> I removed the Kubuntu ppa from my sources...  but it still like this :(
[15:18] <Safa_[A_boy]> any idea?
[15:18] <holstein> Safa_[A_boy]: kubuntu testing ppa?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: did you use ppa-purge to remove it?
[15:18] <Safa_[A_boy]> I want to have 4.8 only
[15:19] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, last time, yes
[15:19] <irreverant> Is Blackbuntu any good?
[15:19] <Safa_[A_boy]> holstein, The kubuntu ppa, I don't know :|
[15:20]  * Safa_[A_boy] gone for a while
[15:20] <holstein> irreverant: i dont know what it is, but "good" is a matter of opinion, and only official derivitives are supported here.. id see if they have a live CD
[15:20] <irreverant> holstein: http://www.blackbuntu.com/
[15:21] <holstein> irreverant: sure.. and that, again, is not supported here.. feel free and link that in the offtopic channel
[15:21] <irreverant> holstein: ok.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: its also not supported here
[15:24] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there any google talk application for ubutnu?
[15:24] <irreverant> ActionParsnip: I realize that, i was trying to find a version of Ubuntu that is a good network penetration tool.
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: see what it comes with, see if it suits your needs
[15:24] <TJ-> Safa_[A_boy]: Try "apt-cache policy kde-runtime" and you'll see the explanation
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: http://www.ubuntututorials.com/install-google-talk-ubuntu-12-04/
[15:25] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Does it work for ubuntu 13.04?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w1NHTthcjg
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: can't imagine its massively different
[15:25] <SwashBuckla> hi there. I'm puzzled as to why my upstart job isn't sending an email on shutdown
[15:25] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: not something I use
[15:26] <TJ-> SwashBuckla: The mail server has already been stopped?
[15:26] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Isn't it a good thing?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: no idea. I have no need for it
[15:30] <wincide> hola, alguien sabria decirme como copiar archivos con extension xxx que estan distribuidos en una estructura de directorios , de manera recursiva en otro directorio ? Estoy probando cp -Rav  *.xxx /almacen/  pero solo me copia el primero, y hay muchos
[15:31] <chaotix> heyy...   anyone know how you type to talk to the other players in OPENARENA?
[15:31] <DJones> !es | wincide
[15:31] <chaotix> what button needsw to be pushed before one can type in openarena?
[15:31] <irreverant> I can translate for wincide
[15:31] <irreverant> Hola Wincide:
[15:31] <wincide> all right
[15:31] <wincide> sorry
[15:32] <irreverant> oh maybe he speaks english
[15:32] <wincide> im trying to copy recursively a type of files into another directory , just filtering by extension, but only first one is copied
[15:32] <irreverant> he's asking if someone knows how to copy ....
[15:32] <irreverant> ^
[15:33] <wincide> im trying cp -Rav  *.xxx /almacen/  where in my pwd are lot of subdirectories and name.xxx files ,
[15:35] <wincide> irreverant, thanks, actually im trying to copy recursively an exclusive type of files with a defined extension, lets imagine xxx files , so im using cp -R -a -v *.xxx /target_dir/
[15:36] <Josh____> Hello sirs
[15:36] <SpyClub> @wincide have you tried using the find command find -iname "*.xxx" -exec cp {} /target_dir/ ?
[15:37] <SpyClub> wincide: or even rsync to maintain the directory heirachy?
[15:37] <reisio> Josh____: hi
[15:38] <wincide> rsync is a right choice .. i think is something related with the * xD .. even ls -R *.xxx | wc -l to count these files is not working
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> grsync is a nice gui to rsyc if you have a desktop OS
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> but learning rsync is useful
[15:40] <reisio> all that GUI code, all that potential to introduce bugs
[15:41] <SpyClub> wincide: checkout http://serverfault.com/questions/150269/complex-includes-excludes-with-rsync
[15:41] <lolyou> lo
[15:42] <SpyClub> wincide: and --dry-run is useful if the files are large
[15:44] <Jellyg00se> Hi there! I've just got my lappy and the fn key is enabled by default (my f12 button turns on/off my wireless rather than using the f12 key) any tips on how I can reverse this would be appreciated :)
[15:44] <wincide> im trying  rsync -var *.vsd /almacen/MapasRed/ but doesnt work , anyway im checking manuals
[15:45] <vlt> wincide: -r is part of -a
[15:45] <vlt> wincide: But it should work anyway.
[15:45] <vlt> wincide: What do you expect and what happens instead?
[15:46] <SpyClub> wincide: rsync -av --filter='+ *.vsd' /sourcedir/ /targetdir/
[15:47] <SpyClub> wincide: not sure if that will work...
[15:47] <wincide> i expect a copy , and not an error  :) rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1070) [sender=3.0.9]
[15:47] <litropy> Hi, all. My wifi card is borking. I'm trying very hard to figure out what's going on. Is there another, more detailed log I can look at other than syslog?
[15:49] <SpyClub> wincide: just tested, command works fine on my machine
[15:49] <litropy> Or is syslog the most verbose?
[15:50] <wincide> SpyClub,  lets try ;)
[15:50] <Wang_Dickman> CAN I SELL UBUNTU LOCALLY? I SOLD 6 COPIES AND MADE 360$
[15:50] <SpyClub> wincide: just realised it copied everything, oops, i'll try again :(
[15:50] <Wang_Dickman> CAN I SELL UBUNTU LOCALLY? I SOLD 6 COPIES AND MADE 360$
[15:51] <wincide> not working
[15:51] <irreverant> I think that's againt the GNU licensing
[15:51] <Wang_Dickman> CAN I SELL UBUNTU LOCALLY? I SOLD 6 COPIES AND MADE 360$
[15:51] <wincide> this is copying everything , not only *.vsd :)
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Wang_Dickman: kill the caps
[15:52] <Wang_Dickman> CAPS DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG BITCH
[15:52] <jbroome> Wang_Dickman: enough please
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !caps | wan
[15:52] <jbroome> see, told you. :)
[15:52] <Teh_Bucket> accidentily updated from 10.04 to 12.04, switched the desktop to gnome classic as best as i could, and now navigation commands like alt-tab and workspace switching don't work at all.
[15:53] <jbroome> ActionParsnip: had the tab complete pulled out from under you. :)
[15:53] <irreverant> Wang_Dickman: you want help, please be considerate. you can get your question answered just be respectful
[15:53] <Teh_Bucket> any ideas? the only thing i found was to restart a few times, which didn't change anything
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> jbroome: yeah, HP 6570b keyvoard is a bit crappy
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Bucket: are you using compiz as the WM?
[15:53] <Teh_Bucket> i have compiz running, yes
[15:54] <SpyClub> wincide: finally got it...
[15:54] <Teh_Bucket> not exactly sure how that works though..
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Bucket: then set the ALT+Tab stuff in ccsm
[15:54] <SpyClub> wincide: rsync -av --include '*/' --include '*.bmp' --exclude '*' source/ destination/
[15:54] <Teh_Bucket> k
[15:54] <SpyClub> wincide: you need to tell it to include directories and the specific extension, exclude all other files
[15:55] <Teh_Bucket> aha! ActionParsnip thank you very much.
[15:55] <wincide> thanks :)
[15:55] <SpyClub> wincide: your welcome :)
[15:56] <Safa_[A_boy]> TJ-, :)
[15:56] <Safa_[A_boy]> 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04~ppa1 0
[15:56] <Safa_[A_boy]>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:58] <pratz> Hello guys
[15:58] <pratz> I have a .avi file but it does not play with vlc nor with smplayer
[15:58] <pratz> I have even installed ubuntu extra packages
[15:59] <pratz> Do I need to restart the machine after installing the ubuntu extra's ?
[15:59] <SpyClub> pratz: have you tried installing "sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-52"
[15:59] <SpyClub> pratz: you should not need to reboot
[16:00] <pratz> SpyClub: here is the text file with the video https://dpaste.de/L9O8T/
[16:01] <wincide> SpyClub, it works! its a sh*tty backup i have to make , thanks a lot
[16:01] <pratz> SpyClub: libavcodec-extra-53 - this is already installed
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> pratz: you will need to close the media players, thats all
[16:01] <SpyClub> pratz: I don't think I did anything, but no problem :P
[16:02] <pratz> ActionParsnip: sorry, not working still
[16:02] <das> Hi. Anyone aware of patches to simplify the output of make ? I'm talking color/indent
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> pratz: what messages or such like do you see
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> prasimply sayin 'doesn't work' doesnt help anyone
[16:03] <SpyClub> pratz: I trpically pass things into a more linux friendly format with FFmpeg...
[16:05] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! Two users use Xorg. A local and a XDMCP. NTFS unities are mounted for user. Exclusive.
[16:05] <AlexandreMBM> Can I make another mount point for the user two?
[16:09] <shankstaBytes> would my system be faster if i loaded my kernel as a ram disk?
[16:10] <yofun> hello  i am runnig ubuntu 13.04 and i want to edit my /etc/resolv.conf to have public root servers ( http://inaic.com/index.php?p=public-internet-access ) but i noticed the file says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN" So how do i edit the file?
[16:11] <SpyClub> youfun: checkout http://askubuntu.com/questions/239169/how-to-edit-etc-resolv-conf-on-ubuntu-12-04
[16:11] <chersen> hey all
[16:11] <SpyClub> yofun: I believe 13.04 does it in the same way was 12.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/239169/how-to-edit-etc-resolv-conf-on-ubuntu-12-04
[16:11] <Martinjo84> What shall i call my shop, selling preinstall ubuntu machine? :D
[16:12] <yofun> SpyClub:  thanks for the link. will look into it
[16:12] <ooshlablu> hey all, I'm looking for help with a strangeish problem with preseed
[16:13] <SpyClub> yofun: let me know if it works
[16:13] <yofun> k
[16:13] <chersen> can anyone help me with setting up my email? i know how to configure it in outlook but im a bit of a noob to linux...
[16:13] <ooshlablu> basically, everything works fine, unless I provision a machine that has some disks that were formerly part of a raid set
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> yofun: add to the bottom of /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:14] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  theres nothing in it :P other then the warning not to edit by hand
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> yofun: that file is usd to generate the header in /etc/resolv.conf so if you add nameserver lines in the head file, it will always be added and supercede dhcp given dns servers
[16:14] <yofun> ah ok
[16:14] <rypervenche> chersen: Sure. Where do you have your email service?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> yofun: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[16:14] <ooshlablu> meaning that most of the disks are new and like 2 were part of a raid set. Basically the installer freaks out when trying to build a new one, and creates a weird md127
[16:14] <rypervenche> chersen: gmail? yahoo? etc.
[16:14] <TJ-> ooshlablu: You probably need to zero the metadata block(s). What did the disks have on them previously?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> yofun: its a hack but it works well
[16:15] <chersen> exchange
[16:15] <yofun> lol what did that do?
[16:15] <ooshlablu> Tj: is there a way to tell preseed to blow away the disks regardless of what was on them?
[16:15] <yofun> oh
[16:15] <chersen> im at my company and this is the only thing holding me back from using linux all the time
[16:15] <yofun> it added <IP_ADDRESS> to the file
[16:16] <rypervenche> chersen: I understand. My company does the same thing. Luckily, they provide us with IMAP and SMTP access to the exchange mail server, so I can use my personal mail client.
[16:16] <yofun> ActionParsnip:  restart networking service or?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> yofun: yes, now each time you reboot, that will be aded to the resolv.conf file as well as the header you see
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> yofun: you can manually write to /etc/resolv.conf now if you like, same difference
[16:16] <rypervenche> chersen: If you can find out if there are SMTP and IMAP services running, you can run thunderbird or claws-mail or something else. Otherwise I believe thunderbird can support exchange....I think?
[16:16] <chersen> ah ok. yea im not sure what we are using, but i know how it's configured in outlook but can't seem to translate that into kmail/thunderbird/evolution
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> yofun: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[16:17] <rypervenche> chersen: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smbit/connect-the-thunderbird-email-client-to-your-exchange-server/1130
[16:17] <chersen> yea i was trying to figure that out bc that would probably help :P lol
[16:17] <chersen> oh cool thanks!
[16:18] <rypervenche> chersen: I personally refuse to use the exchagne protocol. I use IMAP and SMTP that is provided. You will need to ask your work about that if you plan on doing the same.
[16:18] <chersen> ok. should i just ask if they can enable that or something?
[16:18] <chersen> (thanks for the help. still trying to figure everything out)
[16:19] <ooshlablu> Tj: yeah, zeroing out the metadata works. I'm wondering if there is some way to make the installed do it before it gets to partitioning. I'm looking to create a system where users can choose from multiple configs and get their machines 'automagically', and those configs can range from lvm to md raid, to a flat fs with a bunch of spare disks.
[16:19] <ooshlablu> installer*
[16:19] <rypervenche> chersen: You can ask them if they have IMAP and SMTP enabled, and if not if they can enable it for you.
[16:19] <chersen> ah gotcha
[16:20] <columb> How do I test server connection speed? I can't test 100mb/s with my home ~10mb/s internets.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> columb: downlod a large file off it using wget is one way
[16:20] <columb> ActionParsnip from where I can download it?
[16:21] <chersen> alright ill work on it for a bit. thanks rypervenche! ^^
[16:21] <TJ-> ooshlablu: I'd say a script to pre-clear the disks that does "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/$DISK"
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> columb: the web somewhere, download the ubuntu insall DVD, plent of time to hit full speed
[16:21] <rypervenche> chersen: My work didn't advertise the IMAP/SMTP addresses, but they already existed after asking around a bit.
[16:23] <chersen> oh ok. yea maybe it's already there...i was trying to use imap/smtp settings when setting up the account (different variations on our domain/server names) but nothing seemed to work
[16:23] <ogulmus> test
[16:24] <DylanCl> Is anybody here good with FFMPEG/Avconv? (for streaming)
[16:27] <ooshlablu> Tj; I think I found what I was looking for: preseed/early_command
[16:27] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, I recommend you just state your problem
[16:27] <ogulmus>  #ubuntu-tr
[16:28] <tharkun> Good $(date +%p) I need to install the openldap ubuntu package on a debian server. It is obvious that downloading the .deb package is by no means recomended. The sane course of action is to download the source package of ubuntu and compile it under debian. First question What would be the best way to download the source package?
[16:28] <DylanCl> Ari-Yang: I can't really state my problem. You have to look at it in order to know what the problem is and I can only do that by streaming
[16:29] <TJ-> ooshlablu: You'll need to ensure mdadm and all its dependencies are installed, unless you do something clever with 'dd'
[16:29] <blizzow> I have a wireless client that keeps bouncing to different wireless access points in my wifi network.  It won't stay associated with the nearest access point.  Is there a way I can configure the network manager to access only particular access points?
[16:29] <zero2XIII> DylanCl: Try and describe your problem?
[16:29] <BAMbanda> How can I tell if my system is Linux x86_64 or Linux i686?
[16:29] <zero2XIII> BAMbanda: uname -a
[16:30] <BAMbanda> thanks
[16:30] <DylanCl> zero2XIII: Well, while playing a game (minecraft) the quality is terrible and it keeps rolling back
[16:30] <TJ-> ooshlablu: You might find "d-i partman/early_command" a more appropriate hook
[16:30] <zero2XIII> DylanCl: do you have any type of graphical drivers installed?
[16:31] <ooshlablu> TJ: yeah, was just gonna do with dd and see how that works, I know its included in the initramfs we use for PXE. Yeah, might try that one
[16:31] <DylanCl> zero2XIII: I think so...if I don't, how can i play games? :P
[16:31] <TJ-> ooshlablu: You'd need to know where the metadata superblocks are, though, that's the thorny bit
[16:32] <khorchani> hi
[16:32] <TJ-> ooshlablu: Which is why I think doing it as soon as the disks enter the spare pool is a better approach
[16:33] <zero2XIII> DylanCl: well, ubuntu do come with opensource drivers, I meant did you install proprietary drivers? What graphics card are you using
[16:33] <ooshlablu> Tj; yeah, I could probably just run mkfs.ext2 on all the disks just to make sure they're clear. the Preseed works fine with anything other than md raid or lvm
[16:33] <DylanCl> Intel® Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
[16:33] <yofun> what is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, what ubuntu version are you on?
[16:34] <DylanCl> 13.04
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, go to Additional Drivers tab under software sources
[16:34] <zero2XIII> yofun: that is the Google DNS server's IP adress
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> and see if there are any proprietary drivers there
[16:34] <yofun> ah
[16:34] <sb7597> yofun: Google public DNS?
[16:35] <yofun> does ubuntu run its own local nameserver or something?
[16:35] <zero2XIII> yofun: the other one I know of is <IP_ADDRESS>, and yes sb7597 the public dns servers
[16:35] <yofun> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:35] <yofun> does that mean ubuntu runs it own nameserver too?
[16:36] <DylanCl> Where can I find Software Sources
[16:36] <yofun> zero2XIII:  so if i add <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> i should be able to access internet2?
[16:36] <darkhelmet> first time ubuntu user
[16:36] <darkhelmet> i'm on 12.04
[16:36] <Ari-Yang> ....dylancl it's a /section/ in system settings. just search for it
[16:36] <darkhelmet> trying to get the right click open in terminal action going
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> or if you're on Unity DylanCl, you can hit the dash board and search for software soruces there
[16:37] <darkhelmet> i've downloaded the natulis open thing
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> s/soruces/sources
[16:37] <darkhelmet> still can't get it
[16:37] <zero2XIII> yofun: yes, if you add them as DNS servers, but first try and access this: http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:37] <DylanCl> Ari-Yang: no software sources :/
[16:37] <yofun> zero2XIII:  that ip works. it goes to google
[16:38] <zero2XIII> yofun: awesome, then yes, just add <IP_ADDRESS> primary and <IP_ADDRESS> secondary as DNS servers and it should work
[16:38] <yofun> zero2XIII:  add them to /etc/resolv.conf as nameservers or?
[16:38] <yofun> thats what i been reading
[16:38] <zero2XIII> yofun: so you are not sure how to do that?
[16:39] <yofun> nope could you explain or give me a wiki link?
[16:39] <nonickname> hi all ubuntu users
[16:39] <Kleber> hi
[16:39] <khorchani> hi
[16:39] <yofun> zero2XIII:  nope could you explain or give me a wiki link?
[16:39] <zero2XIII> yofun: please use my name in your messages so it is highlighted :). And sure, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:39] <nonickname> hello :]
[16:39] <hadifarnoud> how can I bulk add iptables rules? rule is the same just IP is different
[16:40] <yofun> zero2XIII:  13.04
[16:41] <zero2XIII> yofun: oka open up a terminal and type: "sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf"
[16:41] <yofun> zero2XIII:  yep im already there ;P
[16:41] <yofun> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> search att.net
[16:41] <blazemore> Something is causing a bell in the terminal every time there's any message in any channel
[16:41] <zero2XIII> yofun: simply add a line "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[16:42] <yofun> is what i have right now
[16:42] <blazemore> wc
[16:42] <heartless> wc
[16:42] <emigdio> Good Day o/, I am new to Linux, installed the latest version of ubuntu, installed NetBeans to start programing a voila, the designer is stuck in Loading in the main Form any way to fix this?
[16:42] <yofun> zero2XIII:  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> search att.net   is what i have right now
[16:42] <zero2XIII> yofun: they need to be underneath each other
[16:42] <HelloWorld321> I'm tying the example from the wget manual, but in the case of my target website, the login is an email address, so would there be any escaping needed for the --post-data paramters?
[16:42] <HelloWorld321> wget --save-cookies cookies.txt --post-data<EMAIL_ADDRESS>http://server.com/auth.php
[16:42] <yofun> zero2XIII:  they are. kvIRC sends it as one line
[16:42] <digs> So, my vsftp tls, fully encrypted log in's were working fine yesterday. Today, they don't.
[16:42] <digs> I can't figure out whats wrong.
[16:43] <zero2XIII> yofun: Oh oka, and you still do not have internet?
[16:43] <Kleber> I'm a dummie in Linux
[16:43] <digs> I get...  SSL3_GET_RECORD wrong version number
[16:43] <yofun> zero2XIII:  http://inaic.com/index.php?p=public-internet-access test gives me a error
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, then just google "additional drivers" in 13.04
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[16:44] <zero2XIII> yofun: give me a sec
[16:44] <yofun> DylanCl:  i belive its under settings in software and updates
[16:45] <DylanCl> No proprietary drivers are in use.
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, do you see any listed?
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> if you don't, then there aren't any
[16:46] <DylanCl> Nope, none are listed
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> (for your card)
[16:46] <zero2XIII> yofun: that is something completely different, they are basically a DNS, so you need to add their IP adress to the list
[16:46] <zero2XIII> yofun: http://inaic.com/index.php?p=linux-upgrade
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> yeah DylanCl, you're stuck with open source ones it looks like. fear not http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?81666-AMD-Has-Massive-Radeon-Patch-Set-Power-Management!#post338568
[16:47] <DylanCl> I don't have an AMD card tho
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> ah
[16:47] <yofun> so zero2XIII copy and paste step 2? (making a backup of the old file of course)
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, type lspci | grep VGA in terminal
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> what do you get?
[16:48] <yofun> step 3*
[16:48] <DylanCl> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[16:48] <zero2XIII> yofun: yes, and then adding (or changing <IP_ADDRESS> to) <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:49] <zero2XIII> yofun: step 3 is an example output of a resolv.conf file
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, you can google proprietary drivers for that card to see if there are available. Just be careful though, you could risk breaking something; good luck.
[16:51] <usuario_> hay alguien ahi
[16:51] <DJones> !es | usuario_
[16:51] <usuario_> necesito ayuda
[16:52] <usuario_> thankyou
[16:52] <yofun> zero2XIII:  i erased the whole file and added nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> and im still not able to access the internet2
[16:52] <yofun> dont i need to restart a service?
[16:53] <explodes> I have a hardware raid controller, but on that system I am running ubuntu server 13.04, what utilities can I use to bypass the hardware raid controller to manually check the health of each disk?
[16:54] <zero2XIII> yofun: Not as far as I know.. But you can try: restart networking
[16:54] <marawan2> #blender
[16:54] <zero2XIII> yofun: or just log out and back in
[16:55] <StaticWIN> !en | usuario_
[16:56] <ggz> hi
[16:56] <marawan2> clear
[16:56] <marawan2> cls

[16:56] <FloodBot1> marawan2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <Pici> marawan2: /clear
[16:57] <ggz> regularly, firefox seem to loose internet connection, others applications works fine, i need to restart firefox or switch "offline mode" on then off and everything works again, do you know how to solve this ? i have ubuntu 12.04, firefox 21
[16:59] <marianne> 12.04 using VLC and getting an encryption error when trying to play a  regular DVD
[17:00] <zero2XIII> marianne: try installing libdvdcss2
[17:00] <marawan2> Which browser do you guys recommend for lubuntu distro
[17:00] <zero2XIII> marianne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:00] <marawan2> google chrome, chromium or firfox?
[17:00] <Haruki> marawan2, epiphany maybe?
[17:01] <Haruki> marawan2, firefox of the ones you mentioned...
[17:02] <yellabs-r2> end of life support for windows Xp , the chance for ubuntu to make it big ?
[17:02] <Haruki> yell what do you mean??
[17:03] <Jellyg00se> Hello there, I have an issue where banshee closes 5 seconds after it boots up, everything seems fine but it just closes
[17:03] <yofun> lol zero2XIII service networking restart messed up TTY7 for somereason so i switched ttys and logged into root then rebooted
[17:03] <Jellyg00se> is there a log I can check or any idea where I would start please?
[17:03] <Haruki> How can I save all the files from my Rhythmbox in a folder?
[17:03] <x56_> ubuntu + samsung laptop = bad, battery drop
[17:03] <zero2XIII> yofun: wow, weird hahaha.. Not sure why that happened.. But is it working now?
[17:04] <yellabs-r2> Haruki , i guess all your music in in a directory ..
[17:04] <superdo> hi
[17:04] <superdo> how to install novel moonlight on ubuntu?
[17:04] <zero2XIII> yofun: I have no experience with this "internet2" idea.. Just use Tor on the ocasion to access some *.onions
[17:04] <yofun> no zero2XIII becasue /etc/resolv.conf restores its self. ...hold on im going to add it to the header file then restart
[17:04] <superdo> opening the downloaded file forces Firefox to save it..
[17:05] <Haruki> yellabs-r2, yes, but i want to save all the songs from a playlist in a single folder... it should be trivial to write a command for it but i don't know any scripting ..
[17:05] <ed8> hi, I added a script to my PATH, but when I run it with 'sudo', I got a 'command not found' message
[17:05] <ed8> do I need to put a link in /sbin?
[17:05] <marawan2> Haruki: what is  epiphany
[17:06] <Haruki> marahin, it's a browser
[17:06] <Haruki> marawan2, apt-get install epiphany
[17:06] <marawan2> Haruki: please tell me more about it
[17:06] <marawan2> Haruki: why u see it is better
[17:06] <yellabs-r2> Haruki , for your question : http://askubuntu.com/questions/43643/how-can-i-export-all-the-mp3s-from-a-playlist-in-banshee
[17:07] <zero2XIII> yofun:
[17:07] <yellabs-r2> read and see if that works
[17:07] <Haruki> yellabs-r2, thanks... your google skills are remarkable
[17:07] <zero2XIII> yofun: you might need to add it differently
[17:07] <yofun> zero2XIII:  how so?
[17:07] <zero2XIII> yofun: QUOTE:  The ifup(8) program can be used to configure network interfaces accord‐
[17:07] <zero2XIII>        ing to settings in /etc/network/interfaces(5).  To make ifup push name‐
[17:07] <zero2XIII>        server information to resolvconf when it configures an  interface,  add
[17:07] <zero2XIII>        dns- lines to the relevant iface stanza in /etc/network/interfaces.  To
[17:07] <zero2XIII>        add nameserver addresses add a line beginning with dns-nameservers.
[17:07] <Guest54399> hey guys. On 12.04, when I enable automatic login (GDM 3.0.4), my system will no longer boot past the splash screen. It doesn't crash to console, it just hangs on "starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon". Any tips?
[17:07] <FloodBot1> zero2XIII: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <zero2XIII> awg why did that just happened... meh...
[17:08] <yofun> supercom32:  sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-core moonlight-plugin-mozilla try that ( http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-and-run-silverlight-in-linux/2010/10/02)
[17:09] <yofun> zero2XIII: link to that quote?
[17:09] <yofun> zero2XIII:  and where?
[17:09] <zero2XIII> yofun: man resolvconf
[17:09] <yofun> ah ok
[17:09] <jfddkfnm> anyone knows cuda??
[17:09] <yofun> ops..
[17:09] <OerHeks> superdo, yofun, that silverlight url is old, silverlight ot better moonlight is discontinued
[17:10] <yellabs-r2> Guest54399 : you must have done something before that : installed an new gdm ?
[17:10] <yellabs-r2> !cuda
[17:10] <superdo> OerHeks, solved meantime thanks
[17:10] <zero2XIII> yofun: it is the man page of resolvconf
[17:10] <yofun> zero2XIII:  i know :P
[17:10] <yellabs-r2> cuda are the nvidia drivers
[17:10] <jfddkfnm> yes NVIDIA CUDA
[17:10] <superdo> now I have error installing codec .. error
[17:10] <zero2XIII> yofun: haha sorry just saying
[17:10] <yofun> OerHeks:  moonlight is discontinued?
[17:11] <jfddkfnm> i want to program NVIDIA jetson dev kit...
[17:11] <yellabs-r2> hello OerHeks, alles goed ?
[17:11] <yellabs-r2> :)
[17:11] <yofun> zero2XIII: im not a complete noob :P
[17:11] <yofun> zero2XIII:  lol i run a VPS with ircd and such so.. :P
[17:11] <yofun> zero2XIII: one of my current issues is postfix/dovecot....its a pain
[17:11] <OerHeks> hi yellabs-r2 great, how are you ?
[17:11] <zero2XIII> yofun: Never said you were, just though you might have misunderstood my message
[17:12] <OerHeks> yofun, see the download date "Last Updated: Apr 12, 2011"
[17:12] <yellabs-r2> fine, thanks
[17:12] <SolarisBoy> versus sendmail/qpopper sheesh thats a walk in the park
[17:12] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: not to my knowledge. It's a fresh install, it boots fine if I toggle the flag back
[17:12] <yellabs-r2> protomouse ; just wondering, how can you put it back when it does noot boot but hangs ?
[17:13] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: through the console ;)
[17:13] <yellabs-r2> i see ok..
[17:14] <yellabs-r2> protomouse, i guess best to remove and reinstall gdm ?  apt-get wise
[17:14] <yellabs-r2> did you try that ?
[17:15] <marawan2> #blender
[17:15] <yofun> zero2XIII:  sorry :)
[17:16] <armans> Ubuntu on Chromebook 5 550 = Bliss :D
[17:16] <zero2XIII> yofun: no worries.. Try adding the DNS through the GUI network manager... maybe that'll work.. It works on my system doing it as I said above, not sure why I would need it though, but it works on mine....
[17:17] <yellabs-r2> protomouse : fresh install not upgrade ?
[17:17] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: fresh install. trying your suggestion.
[17:19] <xnp70> I wonder how GeoIP is installed in ubuntu, the package: php5-geoip installs the .so library but not the PHP files :S
[17:19] <xnp70> any body knows ?
[17:19] <xnp70> is that a bug in that package ?
[17:20] <protomouse> same issue. It's no biggie, I can leave autologin disabled. I'd just like to learn what's going on. ;)
[17:21] <yellabs-r2> protomouse, i have no clue, you could try to update , maybe that would help..
[17:21] <yellabs-r2> strange issue
[17:21] <tharkun> What are the current repos of ubuntu?
[17:22] <yofun> zero2XIII:  what GUI?
[17:22] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: indeed it is. I'm already on the tip of updates. Oh well, for another time I guess.
[17:22] <zero2XIII> yofun: the network manager, or are you on a headless system?
[17:22] <yofun> no :P im on a laptop desktop version
[17:23] <yofun> zero2XIII:  but i dont see in the network manager where to add it (if im at the right place ...i have no idea)
[17:23] <yellabs-r2> protomouse, yeah, or replace GDM with an other manager, but i would not do that i think..
[17:23] <tharkun> yofun: What is wrong with n-m?
[17:24] <yofun> tharkun:  what is n-m?
[17:24] <tharkun> n-m ~ network-manager
[17:24] <yellabs-r2> protomouse, wich version did you install ?
[17:24] <yellabs-r2> of ubuntu
[17:25] <yofun> tharkun:  thats not a command is it?
[17:25] <zero2XIII> yofun: let me try and get you to the same place: "gome-nettool" in terminal, under devices, select your networking interface from the drop down list
[17:25] <zero2XIII> yofun: then click on configure
[17:25] <protomouse> yellabs-r2: 12.04
[17:25] <yofun> command not found ;p hold on let me instal
[17:26] <mrtAkdeniz> hi guys
[17:26] <mrtAkdeniz> is that help channel?
[17:26] <yofun> mrtAkdeniz:  yes this is the help channel for ubuntu
[17:27] <mrtAkdeniz> yofun, I have a problem with my Ubuntu Gnome 13.04, may I ask?
[17:27] <yofun> mrtAkdeniz:  ask and you may get an answer
[17:27] <yofun> mrtAkdeniz:  please dont ask to ask :P
[17:27] <zero2XIII> tharkun: I wanted to use nettool later but sure, yofun open network manager with "nm-connection-editor
[17:27] <mrtAkdeniz> I  have a toshiba laptop. It has amd radeon 7670m
[17:28] <mrtAkdeniz> i just installed ubuntu gnome 13.04 but my max.resolution is 1280x1024
[17:28] <yofun> zero2XIII:  i opened gnome-nettool
[17:28] <yofun> zero2XIII:  just installed it
[17:28] <yellabs-r2> protomouse,  see if i can find an other option, one moment
[17:28] <mrtAkdeniz> And on details option, my graphics are vesa:thames
[17:28] <zero2XIII> yofun: oka under device, select your device and click on configure
[17:29] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:29] <yofun> zero2XIII:  im guessing it would be the wireless device?
[17:29] <zero2XIII> yofun: whatever you are using to connect to the internet
[17:29] <yellabs-r2> protomouse,  reading this one on an simular problem : http://askubuntu.com/questions/130265/ubuntu-12-04-hangs-on-login
[17:29] <yofun> zero2XIII:  okay next?
[17:29] <rrad> exit
[17:30] <zero2XIII> yofun: oka the connection you are currently using for internet access, select it and click on edit
[17:31] <yofun> zero2XIII:  next?
[17:31] <zero2XIII> yofun: go to the "IPv4 settings" tab and see the "DNS servers" text box?
[17:31] <yofun> zero2XIII:  yes i see it
[17:31] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, here are my logs http://tny.cz/2340eb48
[17:32] <mrtAkdeniz> pastebin is not accessable on my country
[17:32] <zero2XIII> yofun: add the IP in there, hit on save and you are done.. Should do it for you
[17:32] <yofun> zero2XIII:  k
[17:32] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: Why are you passing 'nomodeset' to the kernel?  This is not how Ubuntu comes by default.
[17:32] <zero2XIII> yofun: I have to run, Ill be back in a bit if that did not work
[17:33] <yofun> zero2XIII: like this? http://screencloud.net/v/qhm0
[17:33] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, because of my graphic card, I cannot install without nomodeset adamk
[17:33] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, If I not choose this option, there is only a blue screen, on system stucks on it...
[17:34] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: Well you can't use the open source radeon drivers with nomodeset.  Your options are to either get KMS working, or using the proprietary fglrx driver.
[17:34] <mrtAkdeniz> Which one is better Xorg drivers or fglrx drivers?  adamk
[17:34] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: Did you try booting without 'nomodeset' but trying to force a resolution with the 'video=XRESxYRES' option?
[17:35] <yellabs-r2> got to go , good luck ..
[17:35] <yellabs-r2> :)
[17:35] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: They both have their advantages. Personally, I try not to use propietary drivers if at all possible.
[17:35] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, Could you please wait for a while when I'm trying to reboot system with nomodeset?
[17:36] <adamk> mrtAkdeniz: I can try.  I can't make any promises that I'll be around later.
[17:36] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, thank you a lot :)
[17:37] <tharkun> What is the current ubuntu version?
[17:38] <DJones> tharkun: 13.04
[17:38] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, thanks a lot bro
[17:38] <OerHeks> tharkun, 12.04 LTS and 13.04
[17:38] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, I just deleted nomodeset option from GRUB and now my resolution is 1366x768 which I want :)
[17:39] <mrtAkdeniz> adamk, Is there any option to edit grub permanently? I don't want edit grub on every boot?
[17:39] <tharkun> Would an /etc/apt/sources.list line would look like this deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ 13.04 main restricted
[17:40] <reisio> mrtAkdeniz: yup
[17:40] <mrtAkdeniz> reisio, How can I do?
[17:40] <reisio> mrtAkdeniz: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 for the custom file
[17:40] <mrtAkdeniz> reisio, Thanks :)
[17:40] <fionaMaid> I am trying to upgrade my Ubuntu,but it won't accept any of my passwords.  Is there a password I don't know about?
[17:41] <reisio> fionaMaid: boot a live OS, chroot, run sudo passwd usernameofchoice
[17:41] <reisio> fionaMaid: though potentially your passwords aren't working because the software for utilizing them is broken :D
[17:42] <fionaMaid> I tried logging in as root, no problem.  When I run update manager, I don't get the option to upgrade.
[17:42] <dr_Exntrk> hey ppl..
[17:43] <zero2XIII> yofun: yes like that
[17:44] <dr_Exntrk> today i tried ubuntu directly from USB i.e. just tried without install.. but in tat mode i m not able to open any partitions on my HDD.. Well i wanted to knw if this was NORMAL
[17:45] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: what version of ubuntu exhibited this behaviour?
[17:45] <dr_Exntrk> 12.10
[17:46] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: I have had that happen yes, needed root privledges (or sudo) to mount partitions not owned by "ubuntu" user
 ok. but will this problem still persist if i install ubuntu.. and is this problem also there in ubuntu 13??
[17:49] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: it is not a "problem" persay, and no it should not be there with install. Remember, a live system is designed to not do anything that might effect the host computer, thus some permissions are slightly different than that of a full install
[17:49] <OerHeks> dr_Exntrk, how many primairy partitions do you have? 4 is max
[17:49] <a1> всем привет
[17:50] <DJones> !ru | a1
[17:50] <mrtAkdeniz> My wireless mouse is not working on Ubuntu Gnome 13.04
[17:51] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: U are just AWESOME!!! U just answered all my problems in just a few words.. and one more thing, if i am replace win7 with ubuntu during install wil i loose data in all partitions or only in the partition where win 7 was installed??
[17:52] <mrtAkdeniz> It was not working on Mint too, but If I start Xserver as root by writing su then startx, It was working
[17:53] <dr_Exntrk> OerHeks: Yes i knw. But 5 is max not 4. Only on MBR, on GPT formatted hard-drives its completely different :)
[17:53] <Kartagis> surprising to see another Turkish person talk in #ubuntu :)
[17:53] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: It all depends on where your data is stored, but yes, if you chose the partition with win7 on for the installation, that partition will be formated. May I recommend going over to the ubuntu forums and open a thread there for guidance if you want to do a more advance install such as keeping your file intact etc.. Just to be safe
[17:54] <mrtAkdeniz> I think something on normal user is ignoring Ubuntu to install wireless mouse drivers
[17:54] <mrtAkdeniz> Can it be?
[17:56] <Draxelis> Google keep shortcut icon is blurry on desktop when created via chromium
[17:56] <Kartagis> mrtAkdeniz: did you try Software & Updates, Additional Drivers tab?
[17:56] <Draxelis> anyone aware of any fix?
[17:57] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: Ok so lets say i hav 2 partitions c: and d:, if I try to replace win7 which is on c:, then all data on c: will be wiped whereas the data on d: will remain intact. Right?
[17:58] <orogor> join /ubuntu-server
[17:58] <angel> i need help my ubuntu studio can get wifi connection
[17:58] <Takagami> angel: I am assuming you mean "can't" get a connection...
[17:59] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: yes, if you set it up like that during install. Just remember that *unix systems have a different drive lay out than that of windows.
[17:59] <angel> i know but i let it install alone
[17:59] <angel> yes i can get any wifi connection
[18:00] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: you have a root (/) partition instead of a c:\ drive. Inside which diferent things can happen and be mounted. It is somewhat more complicated that windows since you can go REALLY advance in setting up directory structures with drives mounted in different locations.
[18:01] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, I'm tryin
[18:01] <angel> but i can get some line
[18:02] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, There is no driver except graphics
[18:03] <angel> can someone help please?
[18:03] <ogulmus> yes
[18:03] <angel> thanks
[18:03] <Kartagis> mrtAkdeniz: try apt-get upgrade, that might get its driver
[18:04] <Kartagis> mrtAkdeniz: or better yet, google its model+linux+driver
[18:04] <angel> thanks i donn't know ubuntu studio i'm new one
[18:04] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: Ok i get somewhat get that. Well what i am trying to do is replace windows with ubuntu, then copy the data on the rest of the partitions to a ext-HDD. All i want is the data on other partitions to remain intact. I dont mind loosing data on c:. I just want to knw if there will be any complications
[18:05] <angel> apt .get upgrade do not find order
[18:06] <angel> that's tell me that
[18:06] <hero_biz> hi guys
[18:06] <angel> hi
[18:06] <hero_biz> a question
[18:06] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: Well, backup the data on the other drive first, if you can, just to be save. There is no guarantee that there will not be any complications, rather be safe. However if you manually set the partitions, there should not be any issues. Just make sure you install to the correct drive and not format the other drive, all should be well.
[18:06] <angel> i need help ubuntu studio can't connect with any wifi network
[18:06] <hero_biz> i have a server and i only can get ubuntu 10.04 LTS on it
[18:07] <hero_biz> i wana upgrade my server to 12.04 LTS
[18:07] <hero_biz> i find a few steps on web
[18:07] <hero_biz> but it failed
[18:07] <hero_biz> steps was this:
[18:07] <angel> don't upgrade 12.04 to 13 fuction too bad install for fresh
[18:08] <vignesh> Hey
[18:08] <angel> hey
[18:08] <ikonia> angel: it is fine to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04
[18:08] <hero_biz> i wana go from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS
[18:08] <angel> not for me
[18:08] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: Ok but what do u mean by "manually setting partitions". During ubuntu install u mean??
[18:08] <Draxelis> anyway to fix blurry "google keep" icon on ubuntu?
[18:08] <angel> i owrk to bad upgrade
[18:08] <hero_biz> 10.04 LTS a little is old
[18:08] <ikonia> angel: right, not for you - so don't dell people to not do it, as many others have worked fine
[18:08] <vignesh> I need some help to troubeshoot my wireless problem. I run Ubuntu 13.04 32bit and have a TP Link TL-WN821N card using ndiswrapper
[18:08] <angel> ok sorry
[18:08] <ikonia> hero_biz: still waiting to hear the problem
[18:09] <Kalen> hey everyone
[18:09] <hero_biz> i usd this steps
[18:09] <hero_biz> sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:09] <Kalen> how many people have had problems with UEFI installs alongside Windows???
[18:09] <hero_biz> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[18:09] <angel> i have ubuntu studio , but i can't connect to wifi
[18:09] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, there is no driver about this mouse...
[18:09] <hero_biz> Edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=lts
[18:09] <vignesh> After some time the connection drops. I need to take out the usb card and plug it back in. How do I solve this?
[18:09] <hero_biz> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:09] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: yes you will see when you start the installation, at some point you will need to define where to install ubuntu to, this is the crucial step for making sure you install to the correct partition, "automatically partition drives" are the default option I believe, and this will almost certainly format all the drives...
[18:09] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, as I said, something on normal user is ignoring its driver
[18:09] <ikonia> hero_biz: there is the problem
[18:09] <ikonia> hero_biz: -d
[18:09] <ikonia> hero_biz: why did you use -d
[18:10] <angel> i have ubuntu studio 13.04
[18:10] <hero_biz> instruction had it..O.O
[18:10] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, and is System Upgrade and apt-get upgrade same thing? Because I upgraded system 5 min. ago
[18:10] <ikonia> hero_biz: which instruction
[18:10] <ikonia> hero_biz: where
[18:10] <hero_biz> not very expert here
[18:10] <hero_biz> askubunto.com
[18:10] <angel> ok
[18:10] <ikonia> hero_biz: please show me the link
[18:10] <hero_biz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/154223/cant-upgrade-ubuntu-server-from-10-04-lts-to-12-04-lts
[18:11] <Kartagis> mrtAkdeniz: I think
[18:11] <hero_biz> i should not use -d?
[18:11] <silmarils> hello
[18:11] <dr_Exntrk> zero2XIII: That would be all zero2XIII. Thanks Loads. I m sorry if i was any trouble, i am just a new user. *cheers*
[18:11] <ikonia> hero_biz: yes, and as you can see someone corrects it bellow that post
[18:11] <angel> you need to updat 10,o4 to 11.0 or installl fresh
[18:11] <zero2XIII> dr_Exntrk: no trouble at all :) we are here to help others as we were once helped. Be good and good luck
[18:11] <ikonia> once again askubuntu blindly gives rubbish information
[18:11] <mrtAkdeniz> Kartagis, Thanks for your helps.
[18:11] <ikonia> angel: who are you talking to
[18:11] <Kartagis> sure
[18:12] <occ> i copied a folder from an sd card to 2 computers with ubuntu, for some reason on one of them a lock appears on the folder icon, and ls -l shows "root root" on that folder..... i chmod 755 that folder but it had no effect. what do i need to do to remove the lock/root?
[18:12] <mrtAkdeniz> I need to wait anyone else to answer my question
[18:12] <angel> someone can help me
[18:12] <ikonia> occ: change the ownership to someone who can read it
[18:12] <zero2XIII> occ: did you "sudo chmod 755" the folder?
[18:12] <hero_biz> ikonia
[18:12] <occ> yes i did sudo chmod 755
[18:12] <zero2XIII> occ: sudo chmod -R 755 sorry
[18:12] <angel> bye
[18:12] <occ> ill try that thanks
[18:12] <hero_biz> is it secure to upgrade through SSH?
[18:13] <ikonia> hero_biz: yes
[18:13] <zero2XIII> occ: Cool :)
[18:13] <hero_biz> ok,ty
[18:13] <hero_biz> and good luck for me... :P
[18:14] <occ> sudo chmod -R 755 folderName  , also seems to have no effect
[18:14] <ikonia> occ: change the owner to someone who can read it as I told you earlier
[18:15] <ikonia> occ: make sure it's on a file system that supports permissions, eg: not NTFS/VFAT
[18:15] <occ> ikonia how do i change the owner? yes i am sure the filesystem supports it
[18:15] <ikonia> occ: what file system is it
[18:15] <occ> ext i think
[18:15] <ikonia> occ: no, not "I think" exactly what file system is it
[18:16] <occ> let me see if i can find out
[18:16] <hero_biz> failed again.. :(
[18:16] <zero2XIII> occ: try the command: "sudo chmod -Rv $(whoami):$(whoami)" and see if there are any errors, if so, what?
[18:16] <ikonia> occ: do not do what zero2XIII said
[18:16] <ikonia> zero2XIII: that is just a nonsense command
[18:17] <zero2XIII> ikonia: why is that nonsense if I might ask? it just asks for a verbose output?
[18:17] <ikonia> occ: please get the file system as I instructed rather than typing in random nonsense commands
[18:17] <ikonia> zero2XIII: chmod doesn't support usernames,
[18:17] <hero_biz> ikonia
[18:17] <hero_biz> i got this error in upgrade
[18:17] <hero_biz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805479/
[18:18] <zero2XIII> ikonia: awg shoot yes i was thinking chown, my mistake
[18:18] <occ> /dev/sda2 is ext4, i think thats my main disk
[18:18] <silmarils> hello, I'm quite new with ubuntu and server configuration in general. My server is running on 10.04 and php 5.3.2 is installed, but I would like to install the latest stable version of php which is 5.5. I found a PPA for 5.5 on launchpad, but I don't know if it will update my current version or only install php 5.5 besides 5.3.2 . Can someone explain me how it works ? Thanks for your help
[18:18] <ikonia> occ: what do you mean "you think" - check
[18:18] <ikonia> hero_biz: do you have PPA's installed
[18:18] <ikonia> hero_biz: also you may have broken it using -d as that will try to upgrade to a development version
[18:19] <ikonia> silmarils: why do you want to upgrade from 5.3.2 to 5.5
[18:19] <occ> yes i am certain it is ext4..... and i just reinstalled ubuntu over a previous ubuntu installation which supported permissions... and i am quite sure it said ext4 during installation
[18:19] <ikonia> occ: ok, so chown the file / directory to someone other than root, eg your user
[18:19] <hero_biz> what is PPA ikonia?
[18:20] <occ> ok ill try chown
[18:20] <ikonia> hero_biz: if you don't know, you're not using one, it's basically a 3rd party software repo
[18:20] <hero_biz> oh,then no,becaue this was fresh installed an hour ago
[18:20] <hero_biz> :P
[18:21] <occ> ohh i think i know what happend..... the folder was created via my script(mkdir folder).... and i ran that script with "sudo scriptName"
[18:21] <hero_biz> any idea how to repair that problem caused by -d?
[18:21] <silmarils> ikonia, because I need to use symfony2 and it requires at least, php 5.3.8 or newer, and 5.5 is apparently the newest
[18:21] <ikonia> hero_biz: you need to fix the broken packages
[18:21] <hero_biz> <.< i guess a lot problems for me,isn't it?
[18:21] <ikonia> silmarils: then I'd strongly advise you upgrade the instance to an ubuntu version that supports the php version you want
[18:21] <ikonia> silmarils: rather than use a PPA
[18:22] <hero_biz> or is there a command that do it?
[18:22] <ikonia> hero_biz: no
[18:22] <hero_biz> <.<
[18:22] <ikonia> hero_biz: you have to manually do it
[18:22] <hero_biz> damn
[18:24] <silmarils> ikonia, do you know where I can check which version of ubuntu supports which version of php ?
[18:24] <ikonia> silmarils: check the repos for the version, I'd suspect 12.04 to be ok and it's LTS
[18:24] <hero_biz> hmmm
[18:24] <silmarils> ikonia, thank you a lot !
[18:24] <ikonia> !info php precise
[18:25] <ikonia> !info php
[18:25] <ikonia> !info php5
[18:25] <ikonia> !info php5 precise
[18:25] <ikonia> silmarils: there you go 5.3.10 in 12.04
[18:25] <silmarils> ikonia, and do you think there is a risk if I update from 10.04 to 12.04 ? I mean, do you think I might lose files, or things won't work … this kind of stuff ? I only use it as a web server, I only installed apache, mysql and this kind of stuff
[18:26] <ikonia> silmarils: all standard official ubuntu packages, you should have no problems, backups are always wise though
[18:26] <hero_biz> lol
[18:26] <silmarils> ok ..
[18:26] <hero_biz> and don't use -d... :P
[18:26] <ikonia> hero_biz: few things are more annoying than random "lol" in the channel
[18:26] <silmarils> ikonia, well, thank you very very much for your help :)
[18:26] <ikonia> !upgrade | silmarils
[18:28] <hero_biz> i guess i need a few days so i could reinstall my server again...then try upgrading
[18:28] <ikonia> why don't you just install the version you want
[18:28] <hero_biz> i can only reinstall once a week free of charge... :(
[18:28] <ikonia> rather than an old version and upgrade
[18:28] <ikonia> hero_biz: is your server up and running now ?
[18:28] <hero_biz> my vps only comes with 10.04 LTS option for os
[18:28] <hero_biz> yea
[18:28] <hero_biz> did not go down
[18:29] <hero_biz> luckily
[18:29] <ikonia> hero_biz: ok please show me the output of "uname -a" this is very imporant
[18:29] <hero_biz> Linux lvps91-250-114-216.dedicated.hosteurope.de 2.6.18-028stab101.1 #1 SMP Sun Jun 24 19:50:48 MSD 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:29] <ikonia> hero_biz: ok - you cannot upgrade
[18:29] <hero_biz> damn :(
[18:29] <ikonia> hero_biz: this is a modified version of ubuntu running in a redhat based host platform
[18:30] <ikonia> hero_biz: you would need to get your hosting provider to give you an image based on the version you want
[18:30] <hero_biz> hm...
[18:30] <hero_biz> i switched from centos to ubunto just because i thought i can upgrade it.. :(
[18:30] <ikonia> hero_biz: your hosting provider is sloppy/poor - they have you locked.
[18:31] <hero_biz> their support and stabality is GREAT
[18:31] <ikonia> hero_biz: clearly not,
[18:31] <hero_biz> but os that they provide is old
[18:31] <ikonia> hero_biz: it is also a bastardiszed build, running a redhat kernel
[18:31] <hero_biz> debian 6,ubuntu 10.04 centos 6
[18:31] <flattyre> hi
[18:33] <atem_> hello friends is there any way to list only directories in konqueror??
[18:34] <jrib> atem_: I don't know, but you can usually display the directories first, and then the files later (though I don't know if you can do that in konqueror)
[18:34] <hero_biz> hmm
[18:35] <hero_biz> is it possible to install gcc 4.6+ on ubuntu 10.04?
[18:35] <atem_> well yea i can, is only i wondering
[18:35] <atem_> some of you use pv??
[18:35] <ikonia> hero_biz: not safel
[18:35] <ikonia> safely
[18:35] <hero_biz> :s
[18:36] <hero_biz> i guess i need to ignore lastest version mkvmerge....
[18:36] <atem_> pv is a god pipe viewer its useful with tar to compress and decompress
[18:37] <hero_biz> somehow working with yum was easier than apt for me
[18:44] <leonardo_> hi, how do I play shoutcast .pls in rhytmbox? thank you
[18:44] <silmarils> ikonia, in fact, because of my hosting service, it's a pain in the ass to upgrade the OS …
[18:44] <ikonia> silmarils: then you'll have more problems using a PPA
[18:45] <silmarils> ikonia, why?
[18:46] <ikonia> silmarils: because it will pull in / require new packages for dependencies the same as an upgade
[18:46] <ikonia> it will just offer a bigger risk than an upgrade
[18:46] <silmarils> ikonia, ok… it seems I am stucked
[18:51] <silmarils> ikonia, even if I use only php 5.4
[18:51] <silmarils> ?
[18:51] <ikonia> silmarils: yes
[18:52] <silmarils> ikonia, :(
[18:53] <SpyClub> I am using hexchat and it keeps crashing when I click on "list of channels" under ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, anyone got any ideas?
[19:00] <SaxX> hi all
[19:00] <atem_> hi saxx
[19:00] <SaxX> i have just downloaded burp 1.5
[19:00] <SaxX> hi atem_
[19:00] <caryhartline> There doesn't seem to be a PyQt5 package on Launchpad.  Is there a reason or has no one gotten around to uploading it?
[19:01] <SaxX> and when i am trying to run it i just have this message but no interface
[19:01] <SaxX> Proxy service started on <IP_ADDRESS>:8080
[19:01] <SaxX> have you ever encounter this problem under ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:02] <Wally2> hy guis
[19:02] <Wally2> ops hy guys
[19:02] <reisio> hy Wally2
[19:02] <genii> caryhartline: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1130784
[19:02] <Spr1ng> What's the general consensus on storing .ppk files within Dropbox?
[19:03] <reisio> Spr1ng: does there need to be a consensus about it?
[19:03] <cgtdk> Spr1ng: That's a private key file, right?
[19:03] <Spr1ng> cgtdk: Yep
[19:03] <cgtdk> Spr1ng: Then don't do it
[19:03] <cgtdk> unless you encrypt it
[19:03] <Spr1ng> Ye was thinking about that
[19:04] <Spr1ng> my certs all require passwords too
[19:05] <caryhartline> Ugh those Launchpad bug comments were painful to read. "Qt 5 is for bleeding-edgers, which most likely have ported their apps to python3..."
[19:05] <reisio> weee python
[19:06] <cortexman> does anyone know how to create a virtual soundcard ?
[19:06] <cortexman> i.e., on a virtual machine in the cloud
[19:06] <reisio> cortexman: ?
[19:06] <cortexman> i know how to create a loopback - pactl load-module module-loopback. however..still need virtual input/output devices.
[19:07] <mantovani> cortexman: http://bit.ly/11QrhDG
[19:07] <cortexman> mantovani: kill yourself.
[19:07] <mantovani> cortexman: ?
[19:08] <caryhartline> mantovani you're not being helpful
[19:08] <mantovani> cortexman: your answer is there
[19:08] <mantovani> why not ?
[19:08] <mantovani> the answer is there
[19:08] <DJones> !google | mantovani
[19:08] <mantovani> do you have mental problems ?
[19:08] <mantovani> oh ok
[19:09] <cortexman> mantovani: I am in this chat room because there are 1750 people here, and one of them might have *personally setup up a virtual input / output audio device on ubuntu*
[19:09] <cortexman> google is irrelevant. that's not why i am here.
[19:09] <cortexman> google will often give you a dozen potential solutions, and perhaps none of them actually work.
[19:10] <DJones> cortexman: Ignore them, they're gone from the channel
[19:10] <caryhartline> Anyways, what is the insistence on trying to compatible with Qt4 and Python 2 when Ubuntu plans to totally ditch those in half a year?
[19:10] <batmite> Hello :)
[19:10] <MathCubes> Can anyone help me?
[19:11] <caryhartline> MathCubes what's your problem?
[19:11] <MathCubes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcDQOvjaMo'
[19:11] <MathCubes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcDQOvjaMo
[19:11] <FloodBot1> MathCubes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <MathCubes> that
[19:11] <MathCubes> but hard to put it in text
[19:12] <ikonia> MathCubes: you'll need to log a bug for that
[19:12] <ikonia> MathCubes: it looks like it's just a glitch with the side bar and positioning
[19:12] <MathCubes> it look like .... bug with the batch file... How do i fix that?
[19:12] <reisio> no point uploading 720p if it's going to be so low quality :p
[19:12] <ikonia> batch file ?
[19:13] <reisio> MathCubes: they're probably compiz bugs
[19:13] <MathCubes> Dodge windows
[19:13] <ikonia> MathCubes: what batch file, that video shows you moving windows around and them not snapping
[19:13] <ikonia> MathCubes: you'll need to log a bug for that as it looks like a minor issue to do with the side bar blocking auto snap
[19:13] <MathCubes> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/how-to-get-unity-launcher-window-dodge.html
[19:13] <schleppy> I have an ubuntu vm on my osx box (vmware fusion) and I am trying to track down how to fix an issue with DNS over split-tunnel vpn.  We use non-standard tlds for vpn accessible resources.  It seems that because it is non-standard my client (ubuntu 12.04) is trying to use my local resolver.  What I wan to know is if this is something I can fix in ubuntu itself or if it is a vmware problem.
[19:14] <schleppy> I can access vpn resources by IP without issues, but name resolution is not routing through tunnel.
[19:14] <reisio> fun listening to you breathe :p
[19:14] <tinti> have anyone used iptables condition?
[19:14] <reisio> tinti: some ones have yes
[19:15] <tinti> little help?
[19:15] <newb_> Hey can someone help me with something?
[19:15] <newb_> regarding understanding EFI
[19:15] <tinti> I am dont know how to enable it on iptables
[19:15] <newb_> I am trying to triple boot linux/win/osx on a macbook air
[19:15] <cortexman> the answer to my question, which was essentially "how do I create a virtual audio card on linux, and how do I set up a virtual audio loopback on that card?" is as follows: pactl load-module module-loopback; sudo /sbin/modprobe snd-dummy
[19:16] <newb_> however when I install the ubuntu install it says it isn't bootable
[19:16] <newb_> how exactly does EFI work
[19:16] <reisio> poorly? :)
[19:17] <newb_> is it a sep partition that needs to have basically bootable images that it can use to boot to whatever partition you select?
[19:17] <genii> With smoke and mirrors
[19:17] <reisio> newb_: it's a boot loader alternative, basically
[19:17] <newb_> wow thanks guys
[19:17] <reisio> newb_: and there are multiple ways to come at it
[19:17] <MathCubes> no one is helping me :(
[19:17] <newb_> imformative lol
[19:18] <ikonia> MathCubes: what help do you want ?
[19:18] <reisio> MathCubes: helping you fix software bugs?
[19:18] <newb_> reisio okay such as?
[19:18] <MathCubes> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/how-to-get-unity-launcher-window-dodge.html
[19:18] <MathCubes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcDQOvjaMo
[19:18] <FloodBot1> MathCubes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <ikonia> MathCubes: yes, you'll need to log a bug for that
[19:18] <reisio> newb_: you can boot images directly via UEFI, you can ignore it and have GRUB do it
[19:19] <schleppy> anyone have a suggestion or comment for my issue?
[19:19] <newb_> uefi being what exactly? a industry standard bootable image?
[19:19] <occ> i have a strange problem, the command "cp -p ~/.Xdefaults ~/myOtherFolder" works fine, except if i run that command as sudo, i get the error "sudo: unable to resolve host *myComputerName" i only get this error on this particular file, and also on this particular computer, i have just installed ubuntu on both my computers and running identical operations on my other computer with no problem.... it seems to be a bug with this fi
[19:19] <occ> le? and something to do with my computerName/host?
[19:19] <newb_> that allows you to choose what to boot .. so like Grub?
[19:19] <reisio> newb_: not it's like a bios alternative
[19:19] <reisio> s/not/no/
[19:19] <ikonia> occ: sudo won't work as you've messed your hostname/sudo config
[19:20] <reisio> it's what loads what loads the OS
[19:20] <ikonia> occ: it's nothing to do with the cp command, if you run "sudo apt-get update" for example, you'll see the same error
[19:20] <reisio> (not a typo)
[19:20] <BayesianBanana> hello
[19:20] <occ> ill test that now...
[19:20] <reisio> hi BayesianBanana
[19:21] <newb_> it then passes off to grub for OS selection?
[19:21] <houman> hi, I have no longer the folder mail under /etc/ how do i get it back please?  I have installed sendmail and still no folder is there
[19:21] <reisio> newb_: that's one mode of operation, yes
[19:21] <newb_> okay so how would I get it to work with this stupid macbook
[19:22] <newb_> I tried software grub like ... called rEFI and the newer one
[19:22] <occ> ikonia, sudo apt-get update, i just ran and it worked fine, no errors.... my computer name on this machine is userName-XXXXXX (and i get the error sudo unable to resolve host userName-XXXXXX).......... my other computername is userName-MS-N014 (no errors on this computer)
[19:22] <SuperLag> Well. That was a learning experience. Time to quit effing around with other distros, and keep production on Ubuntu. Tried Arch on my laptop last night... kept ~ intact. Couldn't get packages needed to connected to a customer VPN. Needless to say, back on *buntu, and productive... in all of about 15 minutes. *sigh* #whenwillieverlearn
[19:22] <newb_> From what I am getting it doesn't see the partition as EFI and therefore doesn't allow me to select it to boot
[19:23] <explodes> Hello. How do I adduser w/ an encrypted home directory?
[19:23] <Magicarp> Since 13.10 will use Mir, how will I go about using the binary blob driver for my AMD card?
[19:23] <ikonia> occ: how does it work fine when you just told me it errors
[19:23] <ikonia> occ: could you please try to be clear
[19:23] <ikonia> Magicarp: will it really use mir.....
[19:24] <occ> sorry. the command "sudo apt-get update" worked without errors.... the only error i got was with the command "sudo cp -p ~/.Xdefaults ~/myotherfolder"
[19:24] <ikonia> occ: are you running both as the same use
[19:24] <occ> yes
[19:24] <BayesianBanana> I have a quick question if anyone can answer. I wrote a backup script to tar several folders and want to send them to a network drive. The network drive is on my domain (but located about 200 mi away) but I have it mounted using cifs. Would it be better to move the file just using mv or rsync? I guess what I'm asking is rsync appropriate to use when moving files to a mounted drive.
[19:24] <ikonia> occ: please run "sudo apt-get update" - confirm that works, then straight away run the cp command with sudo and confirm the error is still there
[19:24] <occ> ok...
[19:24] <reisio> newb_: you can probably use refit, or just the EFI controls; personally I'd use GRUB
[19:24] <newb_> resio?
[19:25] <ikonia> BayesianBanana: you won't see a huge difference to be honest
[19:25] <newb_> can I just use grub for boot selection?
[19:25] <ikonia> BayesianBanana: if you want to keep it synced...then you'll benifit from a differential tool such as rsync
[19:25] <Magicarp> ikonia From what I read, since 14.04 is an LTS they want to start getting it testest ASAP and so it's gonna be default in saucy.
[19:25] <newb_> only for windows and linux not the osx correct? does grub support efi?
[19:25] <newb_> partitions
[19:25] <ikonia> Magicarp: they plan to ship it...but use it...I'd be very suprised,
[19:25] <occ> yes i have confirmed that. just did it again......sudo apt-get update, no errors, and sudo cp... right after gave me an error
[19:26] <ikonia> occ: ok, that's very odd,
[19:26] <reisio> newb_: you can use grub with macbooks last I checked, yes
[19:26] <ikonia> occ: can you pastebin the following commands please.
[19:26] <occ> i think it has to do with my computername... this time during ubuntu installation i just left it at the default computername... where as before i set my own one
[19:26] <occ> ok...
[19:26] <ikonia> occ: "uname -a", then "id" then sudo touch ~/testfile
[19:26] <silmarils> ikonia, sorry to annoy you again, do you know a good solution to perform a backup ?
[19:27] <ikonia> occ: put the output of all them in a pastebin please.
[19:27] <ikonia> silmarils: depends what you're trying to back up
[19:27] <newb_> okay can you explain what is different from the new EFI ?
[19:27] <occ> ok. will take a moment... need to find my pastebin login details
[19:27] <ikonia> silmarils: can I have a little more info
[19:27] <reisio> newb_: hrmm?
[19:28] <newb_> reisio > rather can you explain what the differences is in EFI from the old partitions?
[19:28] <silmarils> ikonia, I want to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS, I want to backup my actual 10.04 in case of there is a problem
[19:28] <reisio> newb_: EFI hasn't anything much to do with partitions
[19:28] <reisio> newb_: do you mean GPT?
[19:28] <ikonia> silmarils: so you want to backup the whole OS rather than just parts of the data
[19:28] <silmarils> indeed
[19:28] <ikonia> silmarils: look at something like clonezilla to put it to an external source as an image
[19:29] <newb_> reisio > Thats what I was looking for
[19:29] <newb_> :)
[19:29] <newb_> yes gpt ... doesn't efi replace that?
[19:29] <reisio> newb_: no
[19:29] <silmarils> ikonia, ok, I will take a look, thank you very much :)
[19:29] <newb_> or uefi?.. Uefi is just a standard right?
[19:29] <reisio> newb_: might promote it, actually
[19:29] <reisio> newb_: uefi is the new efi, yes
[19:29] <wheatthin> uefi replaces bios
[19:30] <newb_> so how do I edit it and show it what is bootable or not?
[19:30] <reisio> uefi is an alternative to bios
[19:30] <reisio> it isn't (remotely) universally preferred, so it's not really what I'd call a replacement
[19:30] <newb_> some manufactors make ones that resemble the old style bios but are actually running uefi correct?
[19:31] <occ> here is the pastebin....actually it seems to be happening with other files too..... http://pastebin.com/wGn3m8my
[19:31] <reisio> newb_: I haven't dealt with it personally, so you'll have to do a little research, but
[19:31] <reisio> newb_: there are likely many explicit tutorials on your specific model of laptop with Ubuntu
[19:31] <wheatthin> reisio, well if your motherboard didn't come with bios, and came with uefi, then it really isn't an alternative
[19:31] <reisio> newb_: possibly, but I doubt it
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | newb_ start here
[19:31] <reisio> what most people get out of uefi is that it can have big silly graphics
[19:31] <reisio> and... basically nothing else :p
[19:31] <thurstylark> why is bind taking port 53 even though apt-get purge bind turns up nothing?
[19:31] <ServicesLuto> Alguém fala português?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[19:32] <ServicesLuto> Thanks.
[19:32] <wheatthin> big graphics, raid, boot options, thermal control, fan speed control etc
[19:32] <reisio> wheatthin: you're suggesting that for a mobo that never had a bios, but has uefi, that uefi _replaced_ it? :p
[19:32] <Pici> thurstylark: because 'bind' isn't the name of the package. bind9 is the package installed with the dns-server task.
[19:33] <occ> ikonia here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/wGn3m8my
[19:33] <newb_> thanks guys :)
[19:33] <thurstylark> Pici: That would be the problem.
[19:33] <ikonia> occ: is your hostname actually xxxxx
[19:33] <wheatthin> memory and cpu speed control blah blah blah
[19:33] <thurstylark> Pici: Thanks
[19:33] <newb_> didn't bios deal with raid boot options thermal control fan speed just fine... why did they change it?
[19:33] <ikonia> wheatthin: what ?