[00:00] <ActionParsnip> sure
[00:00] <MarkB1> anyone *building* 4.2.x for either Hardy or Intrepid?  curious....
[00:00] <MarkB1> KDE that is
[00:01] <MichaelXX2> whoever can get ops, you are aware that if you type /cs set #kubuntu guard on ChanServ will be here?
[00:01] <MichaelXX2> just curious
[00:02] <werdnum> MichaelXX2: why would they want ChanServ to be in here?
[00:02] <MichaelXX2> I dunno
[00:03] <haggus99> Can someone help me with a sound problem?
[00:04] <haggus99> It was working and now it has quit
[00:04] <werdnum> Not if you don't describe the actual problem.
[00:04] <haggus99> aplay -l shows the card
[00:05] <haggus99> I have been using a guide I found here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[00:06] <MarkB1> haggus99: thanks, great tip
[00:07] <haggus99> I have tired several times but I don't have any sound
[00:08] <haggus99> I checked alsamixer settings and they seem ok
[00:09] <haggus99> I'm using kubuntu 8.04 and it's a fresh install only about a week old
[00:10] <Ice_Phantom> Doers anyone have this file:  kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso  -- here?
[00:10] <Ice_Phantom> er..Does...sorry.
[00:10] <BluesKaj> haggus99, have checked the kmix settings ?
[00:10] <Sidd> Ice_Phantom: not me, using 8.04.1
[00:11] <Ice_Phantom> Sidd:  thanks.
[00:11] <haggus99> BluesKaj I checked the kmix settings they look alright
[00:12] <BluesKaj> Ice_Phantom, you can download it at http://www.kubuntu.org/
[00:13] <Sidd> BluesKaj: i think Ice_Phantom wants us to try something in case we have that version ...
[00:13] <Sidd> I might be wrong, though
[00:17] <BluesKaj> thought he was just having a prob DLing it , maybe a dcc would work better for him
[00:18] <billyd> I updated today and whatever it was seemed to kiss a lot of boo boo's that affected FireFox
[00:19] <Ice_Phantom> Exactly.
[00:19] <Ice_Phantom> I can do a resume if you guys had it here.
[00:19] <antiroach> why does nothing show up on the desktop when i specifically save stuff to it ? (kde 4.1)
[00:20] <Ice_Phantom> I keep getting dc'd from current connection and if you had it, it would take another 15m but I wouldn't have to start from scratch.  Sorry for the confusion.
[00:20] <Ice_Phantom> Any ideas/helping hands?
[00:22] <cuznt> anti it is in your files /home/desktop
[00:23] <antiroach> cuznt, yes
[00:24] <antiroach> /home/username/Desktop
[00:24] <cuznt> then if it is in that folder and not showing on the desktop itself it must for some reason be hidden
[00:25] <antiroach> yea
[00:25] <antiroach> i dont know why
[00:25] <cuznt> try changing the properties of the folder itself
[00:25] <antiroach> nah i dont want to mess with it
[00:25] <antiroach> theres probably something weird with the default kde 4.1 desktop
[00:39] <antiroach> is it possible to make like the pidgin chat windows blink in the taskbar in kde 4.1 (like it was possible in 3.6)?
[00:42] <Sidd> firefox3 does not play flash objects, keeps asking for plugin installation, and i have already installed flashplugin-nonfree, kubuntu-restricted-extras, ubuntu-restricted-extras, and "install_flash_player_10_linux.deb" as well to no avail .. any idea? (Kubuntu 8.04.1 KDE 3.5.9)
[00:43] <mister-tea> sidd
[00:43] <mister-tea> go to adobe and download the deb file
[00:43] <mister-tea> flash 10
[00:43] <Sidd> already done, it was the .deb file I already mentioned
[00:44] <mister-tea> are you on 8.10?
[00:44] <Sidd> mister-tea: 8.04.1, KDE 3.5.9
[00:45] <mister-tea> I/m on 8.04 I just did it 5 minutes ago and installed it with gdebi
[00:45] <qcjn> got an error while installing compiz-kde http://qcjn.pastebin.ca/1287263
[00:45] <mister-tea> tested it on you tube
[00:45] <mister-tea> 3.5.10 is available btw
[00:47] <mister-tea> Sidd: did you use gdebi?
[00:48] <Sidd> yyep, I just clicked on the .deb file, and gdebi started and installed it
[00:48] <Sidd> mister-tea: all dependencies are satisfied
[00:48] <mister-tea> are you you trying you tube?
[00:49] <Sidd> yes i tried several web pages that i know they have flash content .. .rigght now i'm retrying with the .deb file
[00:49] <mister-tea> tou also need java for you tube
[00:50] <mister-tea> 1JAVA
[00:50] <mister-tea> !java
[00:51] <mister-tea> Sidd: are you using firefox?
[00:51] <Sidd> mister-tea: version 3
[00:52] <mister-tea> and you have java?
[00:53] <mister-tea> Sidd: ?
[00:53] <Sidd> let me check but i remember i saw the jave license windows when installing the -restricted-extras packages
[00:54] <mister-tea> you might also have to confige your java settngs in ff3
[00:55] <mister-tea> by default I don't think ff will let java run scripts
[00:56] <Sidd> mister-tea: I have sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-plugin installed
[00:56] <mister-tea> ok then check your java settings in ff  I gotta run but I assure you thats all I did and mine works fine
[00:57] <Sidd> mister-tea: java is enabled on firefox3, both javascript and java ....
[00:58] <sebastian> anyone here running a eeepc?
[00:59] <geiseri> hey has anyone here had any experience with upstart in hardy?
[01:13] <dr_willis> !upstart
[01:13] <dr_willis> Ive skimmed its docs.. but not had to mess with it :) its worked too well
[01:13] <sebastian> hi
[01:14] <sebastian> im using a eee pc and everytime i start kubuntu it resets my display and says "running in low resolution"
[01:16] <dr_willis> I got an AcerAspireOne here Last week. :)
[01:22] <tuxwulf> Sorry guys but I just can't pull it with plasma....
[01:34] <robophred> could I get some help on fan control for most recent kub?
[01:34] <robophred> fan runs on full for about 5 seconds, shuts down for 2/3 of a second, then starts again and repeats
[01:34] <robophred> always does this, no matter tempature or processor usage
[01:34] <dr_willis> is this on a laptop?
[01:35] <robophred> yes, dell xps m1330
[01:35] <antiroach> how can i change the clock to a 12 hr instead of the 24 hr it currently is ?
[01:35] <dr_willis> I would check the ubuntu forums robophred  others may have similer issues and a fix.
[01:35] <dr_willis> I never did figure that out antiroach
[01:36] <robophred> google keeps failing to turn up anything relevant, I did find one page referencing some cpufreq_ module but no good info
[01:36] <antiroach> it used to be in the 'date&time' section in like kde 3.6
[01:36] <robophred> antiroach I did that once a while ago in 3.x, need to set it somewhere under kcontrol then restart x
[01:36] <antiroach> no more kcontrol in kde 4.x heh
[01:37] <dr_willis> i recall it being a 'time and date format' setting option.. and i always found it annoyin git defaulted to 24hr
[01:38] <antiroach> also how can i get double clicking to work 'slower' ? it now requires me to double click like a maniac to close a window. the 'double click threshold' in mouse settings doesnt do anything
[01:38] <robophred> found it for you antiroach
[01:38] <robophred> http://reclusivegeek.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/kde-4-digital-clock-widget/
[01:38] <dr_willis> Perhaps i want 24hr format in documents.. but a normal 12 hr am/pm clock on the panel..
[01:38] <robophred> ya, double clicking is under advanced tab in keyboard/mouse under system settings
[01:38] <robophred> just set that myself
[01:38] <antiroach> ah robophred nice
[01:39] <antiroach> ya now i gotta restart X heh
[01:40] <antiroach> now i got a hopefully easy one. how can i add like firefox and konsole icons to the bottom panel (by the k menu)
[01:41] <robophred> I dont think thats in yet, I saw a "launcher" widget in the todo list, I assume thats it
[01:41] <robophred> oh there it is
[01:41] <antiroach> it just gives a k menu ?
[01:41] <robophred> right click, add widgets, "application launcher"
[01:42] <robophred> theres app launcher, and app laucher menu
[01:42] <robophred> doh no
[01:42] <robophred> thats just the kicker thing
[01:42] <antiroach> yeah its 2 different version of kicker
[01:42] <robophred> huh, I assume its the same thing as whatever is creating the home folder icon on the default bar
[01:43] <robophred> cant figure out whats doign it
[01:43] <antiroach> i dont even have a home icon
[01:43] <antiroach> "quick access" ?
[01:43] <robophred> oh ya, thats whats on mine
[01:43] <robophred> I never actually clicked that folder, it just shows a menu of its contents
[01:43] <robophred> fairly nifty actually
[01:44] <antiroach> i tried dragging icons from the k menu onto the taskbar area with no dice
[01:44] <antiroach> yeah i like it
[01:44] <robophred> this might come with 4.1's "desktop icon" support, probably relying on the same thing
[01:44] <antiroach> dont know what that is
[01:45] <antiroach> also i cant see anything i put in /home/user/Desktop on the actual desktop.
[01:45] <robophred> drop icons onto the desktop like all other enviorments in existance
[01:45] <antiroach> kde 4.1 is such a step back from 3.x
[01:45] <robophred> i'm a sucker for shiney new things though
[01:45] <Psycho_Sonic> I have quick question regarding drivers
[01:45] <antiroach> i dont want shiny heh. i want functionality
[01:46] <antiroach> and dolphin still doesnt do tabs. awesome
[01:46] <antiroach> dolphin is so useless
[01:46] <Psycho_Sonic> i've never done anything linux before, and i'm reading the docs right now
[01:46] <Psycho_Sonic> one thing: I've always heard about needing to find drivers for my hardware
[01:46] <antiroach> dont install kubuntu 8.10 heh
[01:47] <antiroach> kubuntu is awesome with drivers
[01:47] <dr_willis> Ive rarely needed to 'find' drivers for hardware under linux.
[01:47] <Psycho_Sonic> wait, really?
[01:47] <antiroach> yep
[01:47] <Psycho_Sonic> it's mostly compatible with my stuff?
[01:47] <antiroach> everything just works
[01:47] <Psycho_Sonic> sweet
[01:47] <antiroach> should be
[01:47] <Psycho_Sonic> alrighty, that should be it
[01:47] <dr_willis> about the only driver 'stuff' i have to do - is install the proper video card 3d drivers. and perhaps isntall the firmware for the wireles card
[01:47] <antiroach> might have issues with wireless or bluetooth i guess
[01:47] <dr_willis> botht tasks take me about 4 min.
[01:47] <Psycho_Sonic> ok
[01:47] <antiroach> yeah nvidia has linux packages anyways
[01:47] <Psycho_Sonic> what do i do when searching for drivers?
[01:47] <Psycho_Sonic> ah
[01:47] <antiroach> you dont
[01:48] <antiroach> really have to
[01:48] <dr_willis> compared to the time and effort it takes me to get my nvidia card going under windows.. Linux is easier in many ways
[01:48] <robophred> yep, I run nvidia, works fine
[01:48] <Psycho_Sonic> ah
[01:48] <antiroach> if you find something that doesnt work just google for it
[01:48] <Psycho_Sonic> ok
[01:48] <antiroach> i have a crappy ati card heh
[01:48] <dr_willis> The hardware-manager tool thing should  let you isntall most extra drivers you may need
[01:48] <antiroach> the newest ati drivers dont even support it
[01:48] <Psycho_Sonic> just "linux driver <wireless card>?
[01:48] <robophred> google is laughing at my fan problem, keeps giving me fans as in people who like somthing
[01:48] <antiroach> Psycho_Sonic, sure
[01:48] <Psycho_Sonic> alright, thanks
[01:48] <Psycho_Sonic> all i needed to know for now
[01:48] <Psycho_Sonic> thank you
[01:48] <Psycho_Sonic> cya guys
[01:49] <robophred> I was very suprised how well linux took to my wireless-n prestandard card, even blinks the wireless light when running
[01:49] <robophred> woot!  found someone with my exact same computer and fan problem
[01:49] <robophred> hurrah forum!
[01:49] <antiroach> time to wrap some presents
[01:50] <antiroach> is there a way to get rid of that weird looking widet thing on the top right of the screen in kde4.1?
[01:50] <robophred> would be n
[01:50] <dr_willis> thats the cashew.. and yes . check kde-look.org
[01:50] <robophred> would be nice, but not sure
[01:51] <antiroach> lol cashew
[01:52] <antiroach> what am i looking for? i dont even see a search function
[01:52] <dr_willis> given kde4's use of other weird names.. im suprised its not the 'pasmadittronic-accessaffier'
[01:52] <antiroach> nm i see i t now
[01:52] <dr_willis> somehting like 'no more cashew' or whatever
[01:55] <antiroach> In kde4.1 (factory in Suse) do:
[01:55] <antiroach>
[01:55] <antiroach>  Desktop Settings -> Desktop Activity -> Type: -> Plain Desktop
[01:55] <antiroach>
[01:55] <antiroach> where the hell is that  ?
[01:56] <antiroach> thats supposed to remove the cashew
[01:59] <robophred> cant find that area either
[02:00] <antiroach> is there a way to make the task bar flash if theres activity in a window ? (specifically in pidgin)
[02:00] <antiroach> like if i receive a new message
[02:02] <dr_willis> kde4 is very much a work in progress. :)  its possible the notes/guides you see are for the latest releases
[02:02] <dthacker> !flash
[02:02] <antiroach> dr_willis, ya
[02:02] <antiroach> can i upgrade to 4.2 from within kubuntu
[02:02] <dr_willis> No idea. I dont mess with kde4 much.  I dont bother keeping up with the latest.
[02:03] <antiroach> yea
[02:03] <robophred> when did KDE 4.0 come out
[02:03] <antiroach> i had 7.10 but figured 8.10 should be better so i upgraded and its crap
[02:04] <robophred> ya you can upgrade, been looking over the instructions myself
[02:04] <robophred> link is on kubuntu.com
[02:06] <dthacker> hello, I upgraded Firefox over the weekend and now my favorite audio site (NPR) is looking for flash 10.  The flash plugin nonfree installs flash 9, and I've got it installed.  Recommendations for gettting Flash 10?
[02:07] <kurumin> alguem fala portugues?
[02:07] <szrhawaii> how do i fully upgrade to kubuntu 8.10 without downloading the iso
[02:07] <dr_willis> Upgraded how? lat i looked 8.10 used flash 10.
[02:08] <kurumin> he speak portuguise?
[02:08] <dthacker> dr_willis: perhaps I should say "updated"
[02:09] <dthacker> I'm on 7.10 and ff <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:10] <dr_willis> I would have say check the forums.. upgrading may ne the  best bet. but ive not used 7.10 in ages.
[02:10] <dr_willis> bbl
[02:11] <robophred> bah, does anyone else have issues with insane repeating of media keys?
[02:11] <robophred> I hit play, and it plays/pauses the music around 6-15 times
[02:11] <robophred> froze amarok several times
[02:12] <qcjn> how come there are different application from kde to gnome ?
[02:12] <robophred> probably related to the media  keys on this laptop are touch sensitive
[02:12] <robophred> qcjn, they use different libraries
[02:13] <qcjn> there are things tha i like better in kde
[02:13] <ilu> hi all. smb try to install kubuntu 8.10 on lenovo y530-1 laptop?
[02:13] <qcjn> like konkeror seems good
[02:14] <qcjn> but i can't seem to be able to install compiz in kde
[02:15] <szrhawaii> does anyone know if vmware works better for the new kde rather than the kde 3.5
[02:16] <szrhawaii> which compiz qcjn
[02:16] <szrhawaii> fusion or regualr
[02:16] <qcjn> fusion
[02:16] <szrhawaii> did you try your package manager
[02:17] <szrhawaii> sometimes terminal doesnt do it
[02:17] <qcjn> no, i ll try that right now, we'll i tryed sudo apt-get install compiz-kde
[02:17] <qcjn> ok
[02:17] <antiroach> Goan, hah rit
[02:18] <szrhawaii> yeah then click the fusion tray icon and it will let automatically give you the rest of the package you need to run it qcjn
[02:18] <[Relic]> anyone know what needs to be done to use the 64bit flash plugin from adobe?
[02:18] <szrhawaii> i meant click to install fusion tray icon
[02:19] <ilu> интересно, здесь русские есть?)
[02:19] <szrhawaii> have you downloaded the plugins from your manager or from sudo
[02:19] <szrhawaii> apt-get
[02:19] <szrhawaii> relic
[02:20] <[Relic]> the native 64bit one from adobe not the repository one
[02:20] <szrhawaii> oh
[02:20] <szrhawaii> sorry got nothing here
[02:20] <qcjn> wich one must i install compiz, compix-kde,compiz-fusion-bcop, etc
[02:20] <szrhawaii> do the fusion icon tray and it will automatically load the ones you need
[02:20] <[Relic]> szrhawaii, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[02:21] <qcjn> ok
[02:22] <[Relic]> only seems to be an .so file and no installer
[02:24] <qcjn> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[02:25] <qcjn> thats from desktop efects
[02:25] <Goan> Hi. I have just finished installing empathy and telepathy packages. I can now login to my gtalk account and can chat with my friends. How can I enable voice chat?
[02:26] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[02:26] <Psi-Jack> Kopete's not making sounds through my OSS.
[02:27] <werdnum> Goan: you don't need voice chat, you can just use telepathy
[02:27]  * werdnum hides.
[02:27] <szrhawaii_> Relic try this url it tells you how at the bottom http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes_64bit.html
[02:27] <Goan> me chases after werdnum
[02:27]  * Goan chases after werdnum
[02:27] <Goan> :)
[02:27] <antiroach> Goan, what is your major at RIT?
[02:27] <Goan> Finance
[02:27] <qcjn> szrhawaii: i've installed compiz icon, and there's no change
[02:28] <antiroach> boo!
[02:28] <Goan> nooooooooooooooooooooooo
[02:28] <antiroach> i graduated computer engineering
[02:28] <Goan> it's all going to be well
[02:28] <Goan> few of my friends got placed in Citi, last month
[02:28] <szrhawaii_> you have to go into the settings to change everything
[02:29] <antiroach> whats an app that will let me get pics off my camera
[02:29] <Goan> you can do that without any app
[02:29] <Goan> do you have a usb connector?
[02:29] <antiroach> yes
[02:29] <Goan> plug n play
[02:29] <antiroach> [10544.584021] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
[02:29] <antiroach> [10544.820737] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[02:29] <antiroach> where is it mounted?
[02:30] <szrhawaii_> go to kmenu>system>desktop effects turn it to the last available thing then go back and click the Compiz Fusion Icon in Kmenu>system>Compiz Fusion Icon
[02:30] <Goan> it's in media
[02:30] <qcjn> szrhawaii: look my post higher, upthere from desktop effects
[02:30] <Goan> under "/"
[02:30] <szrhawaii_> yeah once you click that it allows you to change the settings in fusion to work smoother
[02:30] <antiroach> not showing up
[02:30] <antiroach> weak
[02:31] <szrhawaii_> go to kmenu>system>compiz fusion icon
[02:31] <qcjn> szrhawaii: i can 't click on it
[02:31] <szrhawaii_> then it should show in your system tray
[02:31] <Goan> for my sony digicam, it's just a plug n play thingy
[02:31] <szrhawaii_> what cant you click
[02:31] <Goan> once after i connect it, i just go to media.. and the folder is there
[02:31] <szrhawaii_> is that option in your kmenu>system
[02:31] <antiroach> this camera is kinda old
[02:32] <antiroach> /media ?
[02:32] <Goan> yea
[02:32] <antiroach> yeah its not there. the kernel picks it up
[02:32] <Goan> hmm, do you see cdrom and local disk
[02:32] <antiroach> ill just get digikam i guess
[02:32] <antiroach> i see cdrom ya
[02:32] <antiroach> thats it
[02:32] <qcjn> szrhawaii: no
[02:32] <antiroach> not even local disks
[02:33] <Goan> lol yea, it's festive season too!
[02:33] <Goan> cheap deals on newegg
[02:33] <szrhawaii_> here download the files i downloaded in my package manager then you shouldnt have a problem finding anything
[02:33] <qcjn> szrhawaii: not even the tray icon, What i said is that i can't click on the last option in the desktop effects
[02:36] <qcjn> ok, i got the icon
[02:36] <qcjn> i didn't look hard enough, it was there ...excuse me
[02:36] <qcjn> szrhawaii: what i do next
[02:37] <szrhawaii_> you should be able to click it
[02:37] <szrhawaii_> dont right click just click
[02:38] <qcjn> szrhawaii: right click & ther's a couple of options
[02:38] <szrhawaii_> then go to the settings on the top
[02:38] <qcjn> ok
[02:38] <szrhawaii_> it should say settings manager
[02:38] <qcjn> ok opened the window
[02:38] <szrhawaii_> now depending on what you want to do you will have to change that
[02:39] <szrhawaii_> there should be a bunch of different things in there all icon status
[02:39]  * jmknsd has earned Achievement: playing Mario theme on his PC speaker.
[02:39] <qcjn> what i wan't is already checked
[02:39] <szrhawaii_> what did you want
[02:40] <qcjn> the cube
[02:40] <szrhawaii_> oh your gonna have to play with the bindings and also go to the other settings and add 4 desktops or 3 or it wont work
[02:40] <szrhawaii_> plus you need to turn on rotate
[02:41] <szrhawaii_> and reflection
[02:41] <qcjn> do i have to reload window manager or xwindow (ctrl or alt + backspace)
[02:41] <qcjn> ok
[02:41] <szrhawaii_> if you want i can tell you how step by step but click on my name and we can make this a private convo cause compiz is supposed to be discussed in another chat anyways
[02:43] <robophred> is there a way to only show programs from the task bar on the desktop they are on?
[02:49] <robophred> n/m found it
[02:49] <peeps_> can someone help me with this error?
[02:49] <peeps_> http://pastebin.com/m2d577d0a
[02:49] <killermach> hmm.. lately .. I have been getting "IsCallerPrivileged() failed" while trying to mount cdrom
[02:50] <killermach> I have a "UDF Volume" icon on my desktop.. and I get that error when I click it
[03:11] <macjason0607>  help http://paste.ubuntu.com/86005/
[03:14] <haggus99> well I fixed my sound problem with this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=962695
[03:15] <haggus99> I'm just confused as to why to it stopped working
[03:15] <haggus99> in the first place
[03:16] <geiseri> jumpin jebus on a pogo stick... you know xubuntu vs lxde vs kde-core on intrepid works out to about the same size and footprint :P
[03:17]  * geiseri is just going to make kdecore fit
[03:22] <blackarrow> hi, does anyone know why I can't install both librdf0-dev and libsvn-dev at the same time? (conflicting libdb requirements)
[03:38] <szrhawaii_> how do i force quit in terminal
[03:38] <szrhawaii_> what is the code for it
[03:45] <szrhawaii_> anyone what is the code to force quit an application using terminal
[03:56] <joao> #palmas
[03:56] <joao> # palmas
[03:58] <szrhawaii_> #vmware
[04:03] <geiseri> is there a reasonable explanation of why the kde core packages depend on gtk2?
[04:04] <radlipat> lol ur guess is as good as mine
[04:05]  * geiseri thinks the packagers have gone insane somehow
[04:05] <geiseri> no wonder kde core is bigger than it needs to be
[04:06] <eyestaples> sup guys, im here agian...First off I have to say thanks for supporting such a great OS. Im new to Linux and i havent had many problems. I ran into alittle trouble installing the WOTLK expansion for World of Warcraft. but now when i open it and log into the game my window is huge and off the screen. everytime i try to change res i crash. im sorry if this is a newbie question but i just got off work and im tired, LOL please if anyone
[04:06] <eyestaples> knows anything that could be causeing this i'd apreceate it. thanks.
[04:10] <qcjn> szrhawaii_: i'm back..i'm on gnome right now, i've reinstall compiz, simple-compiz, and the tray and it works...on gnome
[04:10]  * geiseri wonders how hard it is to have hal without 90% of gnome
[04:11] <eyestaples> is simple-compiz required for most stuff? i didnt install it.
[04:11] <szrhawaii_> thats good
[04:12] <szrhawaii_> no
[04:12] <szrhawaii_> simple compiz is the same as the desktop effects
[04:12] <eyestaples> <---me "no"?
[04:12] <szrhawaii_> yep
[04:12] <qcjn> eyestaples: i really don't know, i've installed it cause someone suggested it to me last time so i've reinstalled it again
[04:12] <eyestaples> ok thanks
[04:12] <szrhawaii_> just get the fusion tray icon
[04:12] <eyestaples> thanks, qcjn
[04:13] <qcjn> i did, bot under gnome, cause that's where i am now
[04:13] <szrhawaii_> you can always add it if you want the extra option
[04:13] <szrhawaii_> i have simple-ccsm
[04:13] <qcjn> but i've seen that there is one called compiz-kde in synaptic
[04:13] <eyestaples> anyone haveing WOW problems? i didnt "Fix" wine i just copied wow directory form another PC.
[04:13] <szrhawaii_> yep
[04:14] <szrhawaii_> you either pick the compiz-kde or compiz-gnome
[04:14] <szrhawaii_> or you can use both
[04:14] <eyestaples> i know i know, wow is gay. but i still want to finish my chars. LOL
[04:14] <eyestaples> KDE FTW!
[04:15] <qcjn> what's KDE FTW..the FTW i know ?
[04:15] <szrhawaii_> im not sure
[04:15] <qcjn> ok, anyway i ve chose compiz-gnome
[04:16] <szrhawaii_> yeah dont forget bcop
[04:16] <eyestaples> LOL it used to mean "Fuck the World" back in my day but young kids use FTW "For the Win"
[04:16] <szrhawaii_> i guess
[04:16] <qcjn> szrhawaii_: i didnT choose it ...what does it do ?
[04:17] <szrhawaii_> its an added feature on your settings with the fusion tray icon
[04:17] <szrhawaii_> i added all of the ones that helped make it so i can manipulate it to whatever i want
[04:17] <qcjn> szrhawaii_: can i use the tray icon under gnome ?
[04:17] <szrhawaii_> yeah
[04:17] <qcjn> first of all
[04:17] <qcjn> ok
[04:17] <szrhawaii_> you should be able to
[04:17] <qcjn> then i ll install it
[04:18] <qcjn> ok done
[04:19] <qcjn> ok i ve started the ico
[04:20] <reanimation> hi
[04:22] <qcjn> szrhawaii_: i wen't to see the binding, nad it is set like we said earlier , but now i can roretate the cube with ctrl + alt + right or left arrow
[04:22] <qcjn> reanimation: hi
[04:23] <qcjn> right edge button1
[04:24] <radlipat> problem machine locked up, restarted it, now xfce4 desktop comes up, looks fine, then immediately logs out after taking a _really long time_ to bring up the desktop. dmesg says xfce4-session segfaulted. I killing the session cache, same deal.
[04:24] <szrhawaii_> ok sounds good
[04:24] <radlipat> any ideas?
[04:25] <qcjn> anyway, works good under gnome...now i don't know about kde
[04:26] <szrhawaii_> in kde you just gotta do the same thing you did in gnome
[04:26] <szrhawaii_> but download the kde-compiz
[04:26] <szrhawaii_> if you want a list of what i got i can give it to you
[04:27] <qcjn> yep i'd like that
[04:27] <szrhawaii_> let me take a snapshot for you
[04:27] <qcjn> ok
[04:31] <szrhawaii_> qcjn i sent it to you via private im
[04:37] <tkstka> I was always told to do duel boot "Windows first and linux after"
[04:37] <tkstka> but now as I have linux nicely installed
[04:37] <tkstka> I dont want to start over
[04:37] <tkstka> so any ideas how to do dualboot
[04:42] <szrhawaii_> vmware
[04:42] <szrhawaii_> virtual machine
[04:42] <szrhawaii_> !virtual machine
[04:43] <szrhawaii_> !vmware
[04:43] <szrhawaii_> !KQemu
[04:53] <shad0w0fsin> hey everyone, I'm having a problem with the task bar widget, I accidentally closed it and added it again however each time I login I have to add it again, anyone know how to fix this?
[04:53] <shad0w0fsin> on kde 4.1 intrepid
[05:02] <szrhawaii_> !virtual box
[05:02] <szrhawaii_> !VirtualBox
[05:15] <hasan> what can i do to use babylon file for stardict
[05:21] <ubuntu_> hey everybody
[05:22] <ubuntu_> having a little trouble with an install here
[05:23] <ubuntu_> during boot-up, I get this error: 10.365722] request_module: runaway loop modprobe bin fmt-464c
[05:24] <ubuntu_> it repeats a few times and then the computer freezes
[06:11] <binskipy2u> hey guys, what is the command to save all your plasma settings?
[06:11] <binskipy2u> something with && in it
[06:13] <jmknsd> I need to pull something off of a windows box in annother LAN that I can ssh into a unix box, and ideas how to pull the document off the windows box?
[06:13] <binskipy2u> anyone know the command to save your plasma, plasmoid settings incase of a crash so when you reboot it all looks exactly like you set it up the first time?
[06:15] <jmknsd> I need to pull something off of a windows box in annother LAN that I can ssh into a unix box, and ideas how to pull the document off the windows box?
[06:15] <jmknsd> whoops
[06:23] <J-_> Where can I find a kid3 1.1 deb?
[06:23] <J-_> for hardy that is
[06:25] <binskipy2u> anyone know the command to save all your plasma, plasmoid, position settings of your desktop?
[06:25] <J-_> Or, actually, how can I force a deb to install?
[06:26] <binskipy2u> hold on J-
[06:27] <binskipy2u> here ya j
[06:27] <binskipy2u> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790&highlight=gyachi
[06:27] <binskipy2u> the first part shows you how to force install 32bit on a 64bit system
[06:27] <szrhawaii> anyone know about virtual box
[06:28] <szrhawaii> and what a bidirectional, guest to host, host to guest mean
[06:30] <J-_> binskipy2u: Thanks a lot. I shall see if this works. :)
[06:33] <nuvias> hey i've updated 8.04 to 8.10 and the theme has gone (now it looks like Ubuntu 8.04) :((( why?
[06:33] <szrhawaii> #virtualbox
[06:34] <nuvias> are there any backups in linux?
[06:37] <amrul> hi all
[06:43] <mm> hi
[06:43] <mm> im pretty new to ubuntu
[06:43] <mm> how does ubuntu differ from other linux versions?>
[06:43] <mm> in a nutshell?
[06:47] <szrhawaii> its a gnome version
[06:48] <szrhawaii> kubuntu is a kde version
[06:50] <binskipy2u> anyone know the command that you use , after you set up plasma/plasmoids kde4 like you want it, to save all the settings so if there's a crash, its the same as before?
[06:53] <mm> gnome, kubuntu ...?
[06:53] <mm> :(
[06:53] <amrul> my kde is broken
[06:53] <amrul> how to fix it????
[06:53] <amrul> help me please
[06:53] <amrul> :((
[06:54] <JP-sNL3> amrul: delete/rename the .kde directorie in your home dir, restart
[06:55] <amrul> ouw
[06:55] <amrul> thanks alot jp
[06:55] <amrul> oh...
[06:55] <amrul> can i ask again?
[06:55] <JP-sNL3> it's what i did yesterday to fix my broken kde4
[06:55] <JP-sNL3> ask again?
[06:55] <amrul> how to install john the ripper from shell??????
[06:56] <JP-sNL3> sorry, i don't know that
[06:56] <amrul> the john's file on the desktop
[06:56] <amrul> ouw
[07:05] <jalbert> I just reinbstalled Kubuntu Intrepid
[07:06] <jalbert> now I'm getting this annoying flicker on my screen every few seconds
[07:07] <jalbert> whgy is this screen flickering like this/
[07:07] <jalbert> ?
[07:08] <shad0w0fsin> hey everyone, I'm using the kde4.2 beta on kubuntu 8.10, 64-bit, does anyone know how to improve the appearence of gtk applications?
[07:11] <nksomething> very nice
[07:36] <preston> im new to kubuntu and kde 4, when i expand  a window i get some weird artifacting, bits and peices of screens i had up. Is this a known issue  or?
[07:37] <preston> also i had a bit of trouble with my power saving monitior settings ie getting them to work, known issue or am i missing something?
[08:13] <ImLiz> Hello room, I have a problem, while upgrading kubuntu 6.06 through konsole it got to a point where it asked me something about host.conf and gave me the option of Y/N/O/I/D
[08:14] <ImLiz> I chose D to see what's the difference and now I don't know how to get back to the install process!
[08:14] <ImLiz> upgrade process raher^
[08:15] <ImLiz> Anyone help???
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> leave it as it is
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> you want to keep yours
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> every time
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> does it say do you want to install the developers file?
[08:16] <ImLiz> yes it did say that
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> then say no to installing the developers file, you want yours
[08:18] <ImLiz> but my prob is that I pressed D and "enter", shows me wwhat's different between the two but I don't know how to get back to the main upgrade page in konsole
[08:18] <ImLiz> to choose "N"
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> press q maybe
[08:21] <ImLiz> omg, thank you so much ActionParsnip! :)  I'll be sure to remember that next time
[08:36] <dimgman> Hi
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> yo
[08:42] <silleme> -----need help with partition(s) and recommendation for my specific config.  anyone avail for assist???
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> silleme: sup
[08:45] <szrhawaii> !vmware
[08:45] <silleme> want to setup a 2 hd syst.  one w/ kubuntu and other with winxp
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> silleme: wassup
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> ok
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> install xp first
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> the dual boot will then be managed for you
[08:45] <silleme> ok...well  is re: linux hd...
[08:46] <silleme> 1st partition being /
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> ok
[08:46] <silleme> then swp
[08:46] <JediatNight> Hi
[08:46] <silleme> then a ft 32 for shared access betw linux and xp
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> silleme: well do you anticipate lots of apps to be installed or is it mainly for user data?
[08:46] <JediatNight> I'm running kubuntu and my lower panel is screwed up. How can i restore everythiing to default settings?
[08:47] <silleme> what's this i hear about rthe recommending of a partition for /home...
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> JediatNight: rename ~/.kde and relogon
[08:47] <silleme> is this useful or really necesary if have a shared xp/ linux partition
[08:47] <silleme> ?
[08:47] <silleme> a few apps for xp...
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> silleme: well if thei is a shared source for data, I'd use the largest drive for data and have the smallest drive containing both OSs
[08:48] <silleme> but the shared parttion on the primarily linux hd to carry data...
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> silleme: yes as all your data will be acessible by both systems
[08:48] <silleme> movies  :), appz, tv series d/l
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> fine
[08:48] <silleme>   recently have become a great fan of torrents.
[08:49] <silleme> so...
[08:49] <silleme> does a 3 partiton stup look the moost reasonable?  ext3, swp, fat32?
[08:50] <silleme> or is it advisable to also setup a 4th... for /home?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> silleme: id have a 4th for/home but have a symlink within ~/ to the mounted data partition
[08:51] <szrhawaii> actionparsnip do you prefer virtualbox or vmware
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> silleme: ~/ also contains settings for apps which will make the data drive look messy (unless youo make a subfolder for it ;))
[08:52] <silleme> because i am still very new to linux... (linux dufus) dont know much about these things... what is symlink??
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: i have no use for either, id recommend vmware for dual / quad core systems as Ive heard it makes them run smoother than virtualbox
[08:52] <szrhawaii> ok
[08:52] <szrhawaii> thanks
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> silleme: its like a shortcut in windows but makes the shortcutted folder appear like a TRUE folder
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> silleme: theres an implementation of it i windows but it takes 3rd party software
[08:54] <silleme> will definately setup /home partition.. i can see that getting messy as well.  what advantage to symlink... cant i just setup shared fat32 as a mounted partiton?
[08:55] <silleme> or for that matter.... does this fat32 partition even need to be mounted for it to be seen and accessed through linux?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> silleme: well your data partition will be mounted in /mediia or /mount
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> silleme: if you create symlinks in ~/ like ~/Pics ~/Music then when you click on them they will appear like folders in that location when they are not
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> silleme: in CLI you can also type: cd ~/Pics and it will seamlessly transport you, if you cd .. you will be back in ~/
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> silleme: i have what you are proposing but mine is on a remote server and mounted with smbmount
[08:59] <silleme> mmm. k... lots to learn  :)  ok.. getting a little too far ahead with the cli... is this like terminal use  (linux version of DOS ing?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> it can be, dos is massively limited compared to terminal / konsole
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> just take it slow and read the screen and read lots of webstuff
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> or ask in here
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> anyone know were I can get the 1.2.4 version of the radeonhd package
[09:04] <silleme> mmm. k .  I think that i will set up the dual systems.. but not necessarily as dual boot.  will boot either to xp or linux not thr bootlaoder (grub) but by utilizing f11 boot menu option (pre- grub).  don't really need the xp too often and will be using this pc primarily as linux syst.  have 3 other pcs with xp/ vista anyhow.
[09:04] <szrhawaii> what is the code to grab a file from the desktop in terminal
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: grab?
[09:05] <szrhawaii> well my file is on the desktop
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> silleme: well grub will give you the option of which boot instead, no need for f11
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: ok
[09:06] <silleme> re the linux - HD1 should these partitioons be primary.. or for linux is it best to make ext3 as primary, create extended partition and then 3 logical drives for swp, home. and shared fat 32?
[09:06] <szrhawaii> and i dont remember how to change the terminal to get the file from there instead of the home section
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> silleme: you can use ntfs-3g to mount ntfs read / writable. it has some limitations if files have weird permissions set on them
[09:07] <szrhawaii> nevermind got it
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: mv ~/Desktop/<filename> ~/
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: try not saving to desktop, save it ~/ instead
[09:07] <szrhawaii> yeah i just moved the file instead to the opening location
[09:08] <szrhawaii> it worked right away
[09:08] <szrhawaii> that way
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> cool
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> silleme: ntfs is proprietary so its a best effort as MS will NOT release how ntfs works
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> silleme: fat32 is natively readable by both but is less robust to failures
[09:10] <szrhawaii> man i wasnt feeling the 8.10 version but now that i gave it awhile i actually like it now
[09:11] <silleme> pretty intent on staying w fat 32 since friendly with both OSes I undestand tha tlinux has come a long way and that NTFs partitions may be more frinedly .. but nahhh..
[09:12] <silleme> so.. re: partitions... all as primary or as above.. one primary and 3 logical..?
[09:17] <szrhawaii> what is the terminal code to unmount my cd
[09:17] <szrhawaii> or eject it
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: sudo eject /dev/scd0
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> silleme: id have this:
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> silleme: smallest disk: Windows, /, /home
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> silleme: largest disk: Windows swap / temp partition, Linux swap, data
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> silleme: if you can move the pagefile to the other disk your windows system will run better
[09:23] <zorael> No KDE 4.2b2 yet, I see
[09:24] <chris062689> zorael: You can always use the Neon Repos.
[09:24] <Tm_T> zorael: it's not released yet
[09:24] <zorael> chris062689: Yeah, I'm running it parallell.
[09:24] <chris062689> zorael: they have the latest SVN version of KDE, which at this point essentially is KDE 4.2 beta 2
[09:24] <chris062689> It's pretty stable so far, only one plasma crash so far (but that was stupid of a drunk widget) :D
[09:24] <zorael> chris062689: What's the Neon channel?
[09:25] <zorael> I had some stupid issue with krunner not listening to keybinds >.<
[09:25] <chris062689> http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/06/project-neon-kde-nightly-builds.html
[09:25] <zorael> ..and KNetworkManager placing its tray icon in its own window
[09:25] <chris062689> This probably isn't supposed to be discussed on this channel though.
[09:26] <chris062689> Is there anyway to install Firefox in KDE without installing all the GNOME stuff that goes with it?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> chris062689: nope, its a dependancy
[09:28] <chris062689> Gah
[09:28] <chris062689> It installs freaking Synaptic as a dependency!!! T_T
[09:28] <chris062689> And GNOME-Keyring...
[09:28] <chris062689> *sighs*
[09:28] <chris062689> They need to have a QT port of Firefox.
[09:29] <Tm_T> chris062689: or use some other browser
[09:29] <vge> there is no alternative to synaptic even in kde ;)
[09:29] <chris062689> .... adept?
[09:29] <Tm_T> vge: there is wajig
[09:29] <chris062689> *shrugs*
[09:29] <vge> no no, lalala im not listening
[09:29] <chris062689> Opera is more QT dependent... right?
[09:29] <Tm_T> chris062689: no idea, I use Konqueror in every os
[09:30] <chris062689> Konqueror... improperly renders a lot of pages ;_;
[09:30] <Tm_T> with webkit too?
[09:30] <chris062689> hmm?
[09:30] <chris062689> I assume that's enabled as default?
[09:30] <Tm_T> no its not
[09:30] <chris062689> Ah!
[09:30] <chris062689> How? :x
[09:31] <Tm_T> actually I don't know if there's simple howto for it
[09:31] <chris062689> is it... painful? o_o;
[09:32] <anr78> I need an external diff viewer for kdesvn, and it seems kdiff3 is no longer in the repositories. Anyone got another recommendation?
[09:32] <Tm_T> chris062689: no
[09:33] <Tm_T> chris062689: install webkitkde
[09:33] <chris062689> That's all?
[09:34] <chris062689> Do I need to configure anything in Konqueror?
[09:34] <silleme> ActionParsnip:  i follow the logic of this setup... and guess should have been thinking alogn these lines.. aware of performance increase with xp re swap...  does linux behave in similar manner?
[09:34] <Tm_T> chris062689: select in Konqueror: "View -> View mode -> webkit"
[09:35] <chris062689> eh?  I don't see that option
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> silleme: yeah, put /swp on the other disk and if its needed it will go quick as both drives will be working
[09:36] <maliks> how do i install ubuntu's genome desktop besides my kubuntu?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> maliks: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> oops
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <chris062689> Tm_T: I don't see that option.
[09:37] <Tm_T> chris062689: perhaps you need to restart konqueror or something, I don't know
[09:38] <maliks> it says couldnt find the package
[09:38] <silleme> ActionParsnip:v will be doing clean instal of xp/linux system.... considering upgrade from present linux version feisty to new 8.10V... what's thisi new version like??  snapshots almost made it look like linux's version of a vista... am i wayyy off... any feedback re this upgrade??
[09:38] <maliks> oooh ok!!!!
[09:39] <zorael> Is there any way to make *fullscreened* windows cover panels? While having maximized behave normally.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> silleme: they are trying to oust xorg.conf newer kernel and apps
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> zorael: i think if you right click the panels theres an option
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> to say "be behiind windows"
[09:45] <chris062689> I think that's only in KDE 4.2
[09:46] <zorael> Right, this is the KDE 4.2b1 from the ppa. But if you select that option it's *always* behind other windows, as opposed to only behind fullscreen windows (like fullscreen media players/firefox/etc)
[09:46] <zorael> as KDE3 behaves, Gnome, etc :3
[09:46] <silleme> looking to temporarily revive my present linux box running feisty.  i set up a dual boot system following a dummy how-to guide a while ago - set up linux's swap as indicated.  However strongly believe SWP partition net even being utilized as / partition seems a bit top heavy and SWPfile allways appears empty.  Is there a gui access in linux (like windows) where swp can be assigned to a particular partition.  if no clean gui access in linux se
[09:48] <zorael> silleme: If it isn't swapping then it isn't swapping, perhaps your internal RAM is enough? 'free -m' in a terminal to see how much is being used
[09:52] <isaacj87> apparently, KDE 4.2 beta 2 has been released...http://kde.org/info/4.1.85.php#desktop
[09:52] <silleme> got enough ram .... 4 gigs.  as stated, does not look like swap file even being created as in windows.  fairly clumsy still w/ linux and don't know if linux even behaves as windows typically does...  creating a swap file despite how much memory the system has. just wondering as said above, my / seems bloated.  sorry for ignorance, but is "free -m" the complete command to enter?and will this indicate virtual mem, actual ram usage, both?
[09:53] <silleme> zorael:   ooops.  see a few lines above for question...
[09:54] <zorael> isaacj87: Cheers :>
[09:55] <isaacj87> zorael: I'd hold off...I'm sure JontheEchidna, apachelogger, and the rest of the ninjas will have the packages for us soon enough. The release annoucements not even on kde.org
[09:55] <zorael> isaacj87: Yeah, naturally, proves stuff is in motion though
[09:55] <isaacj87> zorael: yeah, it's exciting :)
[09:57] <zorael> silleme: Swap partitions (like everything else) are defined in /etc/fstab, so that's basically where you want to tinker. But as long as you have internal memory to spare you don't want it swapping anyway, so no need to _force_ it to
[09:58] <zorael> Heh, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2. "Sorry, you are not authorized to see this page"
[09:59] <zorael> (403, as opposed to 404)
[10:01] <hellsing> how long will kde 3.4 available?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> hellsing: if you can find source, forever
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> hellsing: you can compile kde 1.0 if you wish
[10:04] <hellsing> yes but there is no more update
[10:04] <PSiL0> anyone encountered a problem with amarok 1.4.10, where xine craps out and the only way to recover any sort of sound output is to restart your computer?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> hellsing: well their is but you'd update to kde 4.1
[10:05] <PSiL0> kde 4.1.3
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> PSiL0: i only go to 4.1
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> even if 4.1.5 came out i'd say 4.1
[10:05] <hellsing> i don't like kde4, it isn't as powerfull as kde 3.5
[10:06] <szrhawaii> ActionParsnip how do i edit as a root in the folders section
[10:06] <zorael> guidance-power-manager, that's the Power Manager tray icon, right?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: folders selection?
[10:06] <szrhawaii> on my kde 3.5 there was the option on dolphin to edit as root
[10:06] <szrhawaii> on this i cant find it
[10:07] <PSiL0> Action:  Well, that is nice to know, but it didn't exactly answer my question
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> PSiL0: ive not experienced that myself. i use amarok 1.4 but not seen that one
[10:11] <szrhawaii> Actionparsnip any clues about why my dolphin in the 8.10 doesnt have the root edit feature
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: i wouldnt open dolphin as root
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: but if you must, use: kdesudo dolphin
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> but tread carefully
[10:12] <PSiL0> ActionParsnip:  Thanks, that's all I needed to know.  Apparently, if another process uses the sound driver when amarok is about to, amarok throws a little shitfit and out pops that message, also ruining the use of the sound driver for other apps in the session
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> PSiL0: i use alsa if thats any consolation
[10:12] <szrhawaii> here im trying to get to a file that is in this location to run can you help me get the terminal code for it then /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall
[10:13] <PSiL0> szrhawaii:  I think there is a servicemenu add-on in kde-apps that adds in right click root context menus in dolphin
[10:13] <PSiL0> ActionParsnip, yeah, I was about to edit amarok's config file
[10:13] <szrhawaii> this works good i like the kdesudo
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: kdesudo for gui apps (like dolphin) sudo for cli apps (like apt-get)
[10:13] <szrhawaii> that option wasnt available PSIL0
[10:14] <szrhawaii> i like the kde sudo
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: try to minimise kdesudo dolphin use, its not really advised
[10:14] <PSiL0> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-102064.html
[10:14] <PSiL0> ActionParsnip: oh, the root actions, right
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> PSiL0: yeah. i dont like it but some seem to like it (fairly pointless imho)
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> PSiL0: looks like a common issue, maybe it'll get fixed in 2.0
[10:16] <PSiL0> ActionParsnip: I only use kdesudo dolphin when clearing out log files that fill up my /var/log partition due to an apparent kernel panic bug regarding intel wireless chips and WPA2
[10:16] <PSiL0> ActionParsnip:  Regarding amarok, there's always hope
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> amarok is lovely, its my main app + XUL remote control
[10:17] <PSiL0> ActionParsnip:  Yeah, it handles my 500gig collection with ease, especially after switching to mysql
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> i just want a phone with firefox so I can control hat my PC plays remotely
[10:19] <PSiL0> oohh, that would be nice
[10:19] <PSiL0> gotta go.. I have to get up in the morning.. adios
[10:19] <szrhawaii> PSiL0 do you know what the file is to download to get that utility for dolphin
[10:19] <cuznt> kdesudo dolphin ?
[10:20] <szrhawaii> also the stupid file still wont uninstall
[10:20] <sorset> hi, can i mount ntfs with konqueror in kde4?
[10:21] <sorset> like dolphin by clicking
[10:21] <JediatNight> Can we access a NTFS partition in kbuntu ? Does Dolphin allow it?
[10:22] <szrhawaii> i like the old dolphin better  why does this one not have some of the same options i had in 3.5 is there something i need to add on it
[10:22] <elirips> Hello. I guess it is easier to reinstall Kubuntu 8.04 instead of trying to downgrade vom 8.10 ?
[10:23] <szrhawaii> so how do i get rid of this program the uninstaller isnt working
 Can we access a NTFS partition in kbuntu ? Does Dolphin allow it? **i can
[10:24] <sorset> cuznt: yes, kubuntu since kubuntu 7.10
[10:24] <juanantonio> Hello, cuznt. It is perfectly possible
[10:24] <cuznt> i was answering JediatNight
[10:24] <JediatNight> cuznt: I cant access a ntfs partition with dolphin
[10:25] <JediatNight> can you suggest any reasons?
[10:25] <juanantonio> Ah, ok ;)
[10:25] <cuznt> try right clicking?
[10:25] <cuznt> maybe permissions
[10:25] <cuznt> chmod it
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> JediatNight: ntfs-3g
[10:25] <juanantonio> Last time I Could, it was because I exit Windows Hiberning and not Closing session
[10:25] <sorset> JediatNight: which version of u are using?
[10:26] <JediatNight> dolphin 4.1 on kde 4.1
[10:26] <JediatNight> dolphin 1.1
[10:26] <szrhawaii> how do i sudo uninstall
[10:26] <JediatNight> i could use dolphin to access  ntfs on a different distro earlier
[10:27] <sorset> JediatNight: can u see list of ntfs partitons in dolphin?
[10:27] <JediatNight> sorset: yeah
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: sudo apt-get --purge remove <app>
[10:27] <juanantonio> Jedi, which Windows version have you?
[10:27] <JediatNight> xp
[10:27] <sorset> JediatNight: try ntfs-3g
[10:28] <sorset> in force option
[10:28] <sorset> Example:  ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/win -o force
[10:28] <JediatNight> I wanted to load music into my Ipod and gtkpod isn't working well. i wanted to copy  them on the NTFS partition
[10:29] <sorset> mount with ntfs-3g and use gtkpod
[10:29] <sorset> !
[10:29] <juanantonio> No problem then. Do what sorset tells you, and remeber always to Exit session when you finish with XP, or you won't be able to access as it is in use
[10:29] <JediatNight> sorset: I'm in the ntfs partition , thanks
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> sudo mkdir /media/win && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/win -t ntfs3g
[10:29] <sorset> nice :) no problem
[10:31] <JediatNight> good night all
[10:32] <sorset> in there its afternoon ;)
[10:32] <sorset> :D
[10:33] <sorset> can i mount ntfs with konqueror in kde4?
[10:34] <sorset> like kde3, in graphical
[10:35] <juanantonio> Sorset, you have 8.10?
[10:35] <zorael> Does this python traceback make sense to anyone?http://paste.ubuntu.com/86961/
[10:35] <sorset> juanantonio: yes
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> sorset: i think theres an ntfs3g tool, i always use fstab raw
[10:37] <juanantonio> Sorset, Then I cannot tell you, I have 8.04 just working fine and with Nvidia driver hardly configured ;)
[10:37] <sorset> juanantonio: do you have kde4?
[10:37] <sorset> ActionParsnip: i want to mount after boot
[10:38] <sorset> fstab auto mounts in boot
[10:38] <juanantonio> No, 3.5, I mean, KDE included with 8.04
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> sorset: then fstab is for you
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | sorset
[10:40] <sorset> ok
[10:40] <sorset> thank u
[10:40] <sorset> bye all
[10:46] <drdozer> is glgears packaged for intrepid?
[10:46] <drdozer> I don't seem to be able to find it
[10:47] <zorael> drdozer: It's in the mesa-utils package, glxgears
[10:49] <drdozer> thanks
[10:49] <zorael> Again, does this python traceback make sense to anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/86961/
[10:55] <mikkem> hi
[10:56] <RurouniJones> zorael: Looks like a version mismatch
[11:08] <maliks> i installed ubuntu desktop on top of my kubuntu 8.10 and in the process i  changed the display manager from kdm  to  gdm, im not sure i like it all that much, how do i  change it back  to kdm?
[11:26] <CrazyKlompjes> I have a question: How do I find out both my gateway and dns addresses in Kubuntu?
[11:26] <CrazyKlompjes> ifconfig doesn't give me the info I need(at least when I press ifconfig in the terminal)
[11:27] <hellsing> network manager
[11:40] <kamerigo> hello
[11:40] <kamerigo> merry christmas
[11:40] <maliks> how do i get back the used space after unintalling the ubuntu desktop, i have now only kde4?
[11:41] <kamerigo> i got a problem with interfaces configuration
[11:42] <kamerigo> this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/87007/
[11:43] <desu> kamerigo: if you were editing the file and somehow the vim session was terminated improperly, the swap file is not deleted...
[11:43] <aldin> anyone has this kde style downloaded, cause i cant find it in source form anywhere, it is ex Linspire kde3 style, thanks in advance, link was  http://software.linspire.com/pool-src/los/los-linspireclear-style/los-linspireclear-style_1.11-<IP_ADDRESS>.linspire0.1.tar.gz
[11:43] <desu> kamerigo: if you want to recover the changes you'd made before the session was killed, press 'R'
[11:46] <kamerigo> desu: ok desu, but i'd like to change setting ...
[11:47] <kamerigo> so I press enter and this is what i got ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/87009/
[11:47] <desu> you can change the setting if you a) delete the swap file by pressing 'd', or 2) recover the swap file by pressing 'r', or 3) using some other editor
[11:47] <desu> okay.... so what'd you want to change?
[11:48] <desu> i assume you know how to use vim?
[11:48] <kamerigo> when i try to change setting after few tiping program seem to be foul
[11:48] <kamerigo> i use vi
[11:48] <desu> !vim
[11:48] <desu> hmm... there should be a basic vim tutorial somewhere on the internet....
[11:48] <kamerigo> yes is the same
[11:48] <kamerigo> vi
[11:48] <kamerigo> isn't the same?
[11:48] <desu> you have to press 'i' to start editing
[11:49] <kamerigo> sudo vi interfaces
[11:49] <desu> 'esc' to exit editing mode
[11:49] <kamerigo> yes i know
[11:49] <desu> ':wq' to save andexit
[11:49] <kamerigo> but when i try after few tiping it fell row with several repetition of my changes
[11:50] <kamerigo> ending to edit itìs impossible
[11:50] <kamerigo> another way?
[11:50] <kamerigo> or itìs the right way?
[11:51] <desu> kamerigo: do this instead:
[11:51] <desu> sudo kate interfaces
[11:52] <kamerigo> with kate?
[11:52] <desu> yeah
[11:52] <kamerigo> good
[11:53] <kamerigo> desu: kate: cannot connect to X server
[11:53] <kamerigo> i'm in root
[11:53] <desu> kamerigo: `DISPLAY=:0 sudo kate interfaces'
[11:53] <desu> are you running X?
[11:53] <kamerigo> may be yes ... how to check?
[11:54] <kamerigo> i'm in console
[11:54] <kamerigo> sorry but i'm a dummy
[11:54] <Salze> It isn't recommended to use sudo with GUI-software.
[11:55] <Salze> Use kdesudo instead.
[11:55] <desu> kamerigo: `sudo nano interfaces'
[11:56] <kamerigo> ok from shell i was been able to enter in kate...
[11:56] <kamerigo> i still got an error
[11:56] <kamerigo> but i'll try to change setting
[11:58] <kamerigo> i got this error in console http://paste.ubuntu.com/87013/
[11:59] <desu> kamerigo: ignore thsoe errors
[12:00] <kamerigo> yes ... but if i do cntr+c to close error in console kate close also
[12:00] <desu> ...
[12:00] <desu> don't ctrl+c kate. let it be.
[12:01] <kamerigo> ok
[12:01] <kamerigo> i'm checking
[12:01] <robin0800> http://www.kde.org/info/4.1.85.php#binary
[12:01] <kamerigo> desu: ok may be right.... i had to restart interfaces?
[12:02] <desu> i'm guessing that you're talking about networking interfaces based on what you'd pasted...
[12:02] <desu> you can do `sudo ifdown ethX' and `sudo ifup ethX'
[12:03] <desu> that should restart the networking interfaces
[12:03] <kamerigo> ok
[12:04] <kamerigo> desu: watch this .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/87016/
[12:05] <desu> replace 'X' with an actual number
[12:05] <kamerigo> ethX may be eth0
[12:05] <desu> yes
[12:05] <kamerigo> right
[12:05] <pepe__> hi!!does anyone speak Spanish?
[12:06] <kamerigo> desu: the same
[12:06] <kamerigo> desu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87017/
[12:07] <bentob0x> how is kde 4.2 beta 1?  Is it stable enough to use it?  Have the few MSN bugs and all been fixed or do we have to wait for beta2?
[12:07] <kamerigo> ignoring inteface?
[12:08] <Bou> !es
[12:08] <desu> kamerigo: hmm.... are you running knetworkmanager?
[12:08] <robin0800> http://www.kde.org/info/4.1.85.php#binary beta two is out today
[12:08] <kamerigo> how do you know? :-)
[12:08] <robin0800> the link sayes so
[12:09] <kamerigo> desu: strange think that when i restart Pc setting are often still back
[12:10] <desu> kamerigo: right-click on the globe on the botom-left corner and add a new connection
[12:10] <bentob0x> robin0800: I wonder if the few bugs ini 4.2 beta 1 were fixed for beta1 itself (and rolled out via adept) or if they are fixed in beta2
[12:12] <kamerigo> i have done add new profile ....
[12:13] <kamerigo> but i'm not sure
[12:13] <kamerigo> that it's the right way
[12:13] <robin0800> don't know link only has info download links broken at this time
[12:14] <kamerigo> desu: ok thank you buddy.... still your good effort again.... iìll check this and make you know
[12:14] <desu> k...
[12:15] <patricio> hi
[12:15] <eagles05> hi
[12:15] <patricio> na wie gehts
[12:15] <eagles05> patricio what language do you want
[12:16] <patricio> spain and cerman
[12:16] <eagles05> spanish and german
[12:16] <eagles05> !de | patricio
[12:16] <eagles05> !es | patricio
[12:17] <patricio> sie ciero un canel para ablar conn personas
[12:17] <CrazyKlompjes>  I have a question: How do I find out both my gateway and dns addresses in Kubuntu?
[12:18] <eagles05> patricio este canale hablar en ingles solomente en estos canales hablar en espanol por favor
[12:18] <CrazyKlompjes> !es
[12:18] <eagles05> CrazyKlompjes i know im explaining to patricio bout that channel
[12:19] <jan__> Czech republic?
[12:19] <eagles05> !cz | jan__
[12:19] <patricio> sollo puedeo aleman
[12:19] <eagles05> !de | patricio
[12:20] <patricio> hallo kann hir einer deutsch
[12:21] <eagles05> patricio click on one of those channels
[12:21] <eagles05> this channel speak in english only
[12:21] <patricio> bitte was
[12:21] <hellsing> english here, thanks
[12:21] <patricio> und deutsch
[12:21] <eagles05> hellsing im tryign to get him to go to the proper channel he doesnt
[12:22] <hellsing> i read it...
[12:22] <hellsing> kick power
[12:22] <eagles05> !de | patricio
[12:22] <eagles05> u got kick power or i get op in here
[12:22] <eagles05> !op
[12:22] <hellsing> i've got nothing ^^'
[12:22] <eagles05> i got an op
[12:22] <gnomefreak> ?
[12:22] <ikonia> what's the problem
[12:23] <eagles05> patricio isnt going to the appropriate channel
[12:23] <eagles05> either spanish or german
[12:23] <eagles05> tried explaining to him in spanish that this channel is english only then he asked for german channel and is now talking in german
[12:23] <gnomefreak> its german or dutch
[12:23] <ikonia> !de | patricio
[12:24] <ikonia> patricio: verstehen Sie?
[12:24] <patricio> jo
[12:24] <ikonia> danke
[12:25] <eagles05> thanks ikonia and gnomefreak sorry to bother you guys
[12:37] <jonny_> guten tag
[12:37] <eagles05> !de | jonny_
[12:38] <jonny_> ich habe probleme mit der Konfiguration des Samba servers: ich habe keine GUI für deren Einstellung unter KDE 4 gefunden
[12:38] <eagles05> !de | jonny_
[12:38] <eagles05> ikonia its happening again
[12:39] <eagles05> jonny_ see above
[12:40] <jonny_> can anyone help me finding an appropriate GUI for the samba server, that works under KDE 4?
[12:40] <ikonia> eagles05: you hit him with 2 !de's before he had chance to response
[12:40] <ikonia> respond
[12:41] <ikonia> jonny_: swat is common across all desktops and runs through a webbrowser
[12:41] <eagles05> ikonia ill be quiet and go back to my own business
[12:42] <jonny_> ok:
[12:42] <ikonia> eagles05: no, it's right to offer him the german channel, but he only said one german line and you hit him with 2 !de's and then alerted us that it was happening again, he only said one line and didn't know it was not approrpaite until he spoke
[12:44] <eagles05> he said 2 actually
[12:44] <eagles05> im not gonna argue on technicalities and take the channel offtopic
[12:44] <eagles05> hi dr_willis
[12:45] <dr_willis> Moo!
[12:46] <eagles05> how are things dr_willis
[12:47] <dr_willis> Cold here.
[12:48] <eagles05> same
[12:48] <eagles05> hop in off topic cuz im kinda taking the channel offtopic bro
[12:54] <jonny_> what do i need to do, to be able to use the file sharen via kcmshell4. When trying, it asks me for a password, but it does not accept my administration password
[13:02] <dr_willis> I just set up the users HOMES to all be shared.. :()
[13:06] <keres> is it possible to run kde4 on ubuntu 8.04?
[13:07] <eagles0513875> keres yes
[13:07] <eagles0513875> you can have both kde 3 and 4 running at the same time
[13:10] <bentob0x> ok I just upgraded to 4.2 beta 1 from 4.1.3
[13:10] <bentob0x> it's gorgeous
[13:10] <bentob0x> thx for the repos guys
[13:10] <eagles0513875> is there really a big difference from 4.1.3
[13:10] <bentob0x> yea, definitely
[13:10] <bentob0x> feels more polished
[13:10] <bentob0x> very nice looking
[13:10]  * dr_willis waits for service pack 1
[13:10] <dr_willis> :P
[13:11] <Greenery> will they port KDE 4.2 to backport for intrepid or it will only be available on the next Kubuntu 9.04?
[13:12] <dr_willis> I thught 4.2 was allready in backports
[13:12] <Greenery> that's on PPA
[13:12] <bentob0x> I believe the ninja packaging guys will do their ninja work as usual :)
[13:13] <Greenery> currently the backports has 4.1.3
[13:13] <bentob0x> when you zoom out of your desktop, how can you zoom back in?
[13:13] <dr_willis> winkey+mouse wheel?
[13:16] <bentob0x> no doesn't work
[13:16] <Greenery> isnt it somewhere in the cashew?
[13:17] <bentob0x> I clicked on the top right widget thing and selected zoom out, now I can't get back to that cashew thing
[13:17] <bentob0x> cashew seems zoomed out too
[13:17] <Greenery> i think u can click on it and it will show zoom in there
[13:18] <ngirard> Hi all. As you may know, Texlive 2008 packaging for ubuntu is far from beeing ready, and I need it TeXlive 2008. Therefore I'd like to remove all my old texlive packets, then install TeXlive 2008 by hand. Problem is, I'd like to keep kile installed, and kile depends from texlive. Is there a way of removing the texlive paquets while keeping kile ?
[13:18] <bentob0x> yes but it has dissapeared Greenery
[13:18] <Greenery> there should be shortcut key for that
[13:19] <deamoon> what is command to remove programs
[13:19] <deamoon> ?
[13:19] <bb__> Any news about 4.2 beta2? In the Kubuntu-RSS-Feed it was announced yesterday :)
[13:19] <eagles0513875> bb__ ask in #kde
[13:20] <deamoon> any 1
[13:20] <bb__> ok
[13:20] <deamoon> ?
[13:20] <atno> !lts
[13:20] <atno> i've installed kubuntu 8.10 can i change it to kubuntu 8.10 LTS?
[13:21] <deamoon> what is command line to remove program?
[13:21] <atno> apt-get remove program-name
[13:21] <deamoon> and another 1
[13:21] <deamoon> to remove fully
[13:22] <atno> apt-get --purge remove program-name
[13:22] <deamoon> oh ty
[13:22] <atno> np :)
[13:22] <dr_willis> note that --purge will NOT remove user settings
[13:22] <bentob0x> was there a fix for the msn protocol?
[13:23] <atno> are u sure dr_willis?
[13:24] <deamoon> who has nvidia
[13:25] <deamoon> cos i whant to upgrade and dont know whisc to buy and have less problem
[13:25] <deamoon> on linux
[13:25] <deamoon> any recomendations
[13:25] <deamoon> ?
[13:25] <dr_willis> atno,  yes.. If your user has settings in /home/bubba/.mozilla (fr example)   purging the firefox program will NOT and  If you think about SHOULD NOT touch stuff in the users homes.
[13:25] <dr_willis> :)
[13:26] <deamoon> has any 1 tryed frostwire p2p soft?
[13:33] <dr_willis> Lots of people have.
[13:33] <dr_willis> !frostwire
[13:33] <werdnum> Frostwire rox.
[13:33] <werdnum> frostwire++
[13:33] <dr_willis> Its worked very well for me in the past
[13:33] <deamoon> i installed it but it doesnt start
[13:33] <deamoon> y?
[13:34] <dr_willis> run it from a terminal and look for error messages
[13:34] <dr_willis> I would guess you need the SUN JAVA package...   thats a common issue
[13:34] <deamoon> if i knew how to run in terminal i would :D lol
[13:34] <dr_willis> type frostwire   perhaps?
[13:34] <deamoon> k
[13:34] <deamoon> ill try
[13:34] <dr_willis> Logical First Guess... :)
[13:35] <tkstka> ok my graphicworkspace seems to crash... it seems it loads two qt4 things and then screenfrozes.. Those came when I installed this cool desktop thing that shows your ram, cpu, etc. So how do I fix this when I cant only use console?
[13:36] <tkstka> I mean I can only use textbase
[13:36] <tkstka> op
[13:36] <SlimeyPete> tkstka: sudo apt-get remove name_of_package_with_cool_desktop_thing_in_it
[13:36] <tkstka> :C cant remember anymore is there a way to check that?
[13:37] <SlimeyPete> tkstka: you can use "apt-cache search <keyword>" or "aptitude" to search through the package databases
[13:37] <SlimeyPete> sorry, "aptitude search"
[13:38] <atno> can i update from 8.10 to 8.10 LTS?
[13:38] <ngirard> Hi again. How to list the dependancies of a given paquet p ?
[13:40] <SlimeyPete> atno: eh?
[13:40] <SlimeyPete> there isn't an 8.10 LTS
[13:41] <SlimeyPete> LTS just means "Long Term Support". It's just an extra name added to certain versions which will be supported for an extra-long time after release.
[13:42] <SlimeyPete> the last LTS version was 8.04
[13:43] <deamoon> how can i upgrade java
[13:43] <deamoon> ?
[13:43] <jcarrasco> with luck
[13:43] <deamoon> is there any command line to do that
[13:46] <bentob0x> there seem to be a serious performance boost with kde 4.2 beta 1, can anybody confirm this?
[13:46] <sofiane> hi how can i install mozilla firefox in my kubuntu
[13:46] <bentob0x> sofiane: in a console type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[13:46] <bentob0x> and that's it
[13:47] <atno> SlimeyPete: thanks :)
[13:49] <tkstka> so it seems that it isnt because of that program is there a way to stop all programs to popping up when you log on?
[13:49] <tkstka> because I really dont have time to do anything
[13:49] <laserkaktus> testing
[13:49] <laserkaktus> nice
[13:53] <tkstka> so is there a way to stop programs from oping up when I log in
[13:53] <tkstka> ?
[13:54] <tkstka> in yo my graphicworkspace
[13:54] <tkstka> or what do you call it
[13:54] <tkstka> :D
[13:57] <tkstka> quit
[14:07] <zeltak> hi guys
[14:08] <vge> hi five
[14:08] <zeltak> i have a really wierd problem..all my colors in every video player i try (smplayer,vlc, kaffeine etc..) are really off (all kinda blusih)
[14:08] <zeltak> any one know of this problem (using kubuntu intrepid 8.10 kde 4.2 (Beta))
[14:08] <Lynx_> Hi all! I just installed Kcron via apt-get, and it seemed to have worked as always, but now i can't find Kcron anywhere?
[14:09] <vge> Lynx_: try refreshing your menu items?
[14:09] <pronoy> how do i test whether my mic is working or not ?
[14:09] <Lynx_> vge: how do i do that? but apart from the menu, i can't even find the executable, looked in /usr/bin and /bin and /sbin
[14:10] <pronoy> !mic
[14:10] <vge> Lynx_: most easy way is to press mouse2 on kmenu icon, choose menu editor and press save
[14:11] <pronoy> hi can anyone help me ?? how do i check whether my mic is working or not ?
[14:11] <zeltak> hi abby, didnt know you used kubuntu :) whats up?
[14:11] <fale> someone is working on kde4.2b2?
[14:11] <Lynx_> vge: didn't work. but doing apt-get install kcron again sais it's already the newest version. it's not in /opt/ either. weird.
[14:12] <Lynx_> pronoy: you could install 'sound recorder' for example
[14:12] <vge> "locate kcron" will find the app, but usually they are systemwide commands
[14:12] <pronoy> Lynx_: does it comes preinstalled in kubuntu ?
[14:12] <Lynx_> pronoy: i don't think so
[14:14] <Lynx_> vge:  that just finds some kcron.mo in /usr/shared/locale-langpack/
[14:14] <vge> Lynx_: for me it's /usr/bin/kcron, so i suggest you try to reinstall it
[14:14] <Lynx_> vge: ok, will do
[14:15] <Lynx_> vge: same thing. the package must be broken somehow i guess.
[14:15] <pronoy> !krecord
[14:15] <pronoy> !krec
[14:16] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:17] <ivan_> qwer
[14:18] <ngirard> Hi all, I have a plain vanilla 105-key french keyboard. After migrating from 8.04 to 8.10, the "down" key generates a 116 (Multi_key) event. How can I fix this ?
[14:18] <vge> Lynx_: well, can't really help you above that, seems wierd
[14:18] <vge> Lynx_: but now i know a good program for editing these things, so i should thank you :D
[14:19] <Lynx_> vge: thanks to you, too :)
[14:19] <peabody> Hey, I'm trying to get bluetooth keyboard & mouse support, and I found this guide here: http://www.reviewlinux.com/forums/news/9974-howto-setup-bluetooth-keyboard-and-mouse-in-ubuntu.html
[14:20] <Lynx_> vge: found a forum post where someone has the same problem, the solution was to install kdeadmin which includes kcron, doesn't work for me though.
[14:20] <vge> k
[14:21] <peabody> but hcitool doesn't identify any devices, despite the fact both my keyboard and mouse are connected
[14:21] <peabody> so then I found this guide: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/498438.html
[14:22] <peabody> but I don't have the conf file or entries that they are saying to edit in my /etc/bluetooth
[14:23] <peabody> so I went to bluez.org and downloaded the source pack, but when I tried to configure it, it says configure: error: D-Bus library is required
[14:23] <peabody> Apparently, there's about a thousand DBUS libraries, and the bluez.org website doesn't appear to have any documentation
[14:24] <peabody> the faq is horrible
[14:27] <pronoy> is the issue of pulse audio corrected in intrepid ? becaue i still can't seem to use my mic
[14:30] <pronoy> how can i configure my mic ??
[14:33] <spartacuc> pls help me. how can I check apt-get list? sorry, my english is...
[14:34] <klaustreff> theres somethi wrong with the kubuntu music when i startup
[14:34] <klaustreff> :(
[14:34] <spartacuc> :(
[14:35] <pronoy> spartacuc: you want to check the repository list ?
[14:35] <spartacuc> yes
[14:36] <pronoy> spartacuc: you have adept installed ?
[14:36] <spartacuc> yes
[14:36] <markit> hi, any way to have 4.2beta as "regular" kde and not installed as separate "nightly"?
[14:37] <pronoy> spatacuc: go to adept...open up sources.......then sources list
[14:38] <pronoy> spartacuc: Edit Software Sources
[14:38] <pronoy> spartacuc: got it ?
[14:38] <spartacuc> ohhh.jeah. ty
[14:39] <markit> ops, topic :) thanks
[14:48] <fale> is there a #kubuntu-devel chan?
[14:48] <Tm_T> is
[14:52] <klaustreff> hey guys, how do install the mysql and sqlite databases?
[14:52] <peabody> does anyone use bluetooth?
[14:57] <thiago__> hey guys
[14:58] <klaustref> anyone help me install sqlite and mysql?
[14:59] <jon__> hi i just got an adsl modem. How do i set it up?
[14:59] <jon__> thx
[15:00] <jonny_> hello: can somebody help getting the samba server working on kubuntu 8.10?
[15:00] <klaustref> !mysql
[15:01] <jon__> !dsl
[15:02] <pronoy> OK PEOPLE listen up.... how to get the mic working on kubuntu ?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> alsamixer in the terminal , make sure the vol ctrl is tuned up to 70% and the box is unmuted 00 instead of an M
[15:04] <pronoy> BluesKaj: sorry i din't mean to ask.....i just discovered that it isn't the mic vol problem its actually the digital capture which has to be turned on !!
[15:04] <pronoy> :D
[15:05] <BluesKaj> is it working ok then ?
[15:05] <pronoy> BluesKaj: yah...full throttle ahead
[15:05] <BluesKaj> good
[15:06] <pronoy> oh yeah...one more thing...if you want a sound recorder for kubuntu...download audacity at soundforge.net
[15:06] <pronoy> its the best
[15:07] <Pici> audacity is in the repositories.
[15:08] <pronoy> yeah and its the best :)
[15:08] <pronoy> !sound recorder
[15:08] <Pici> !best
[15:08] <pronoy> Pici: ubottu should be updated on sound recorder
[15:08] <peabody> does anyone use bluetooth?
[15:08] <peabody> !bluetooth
[15:09] <pronoy> Pici: can we run dapper or gutsy apps on intrepid ?
[15:10] <peabody> hmm that faq doesn't help, already been through that
[15:10] <peabody> it's for an outdated bluetooth stack
[15:10] <Pici> pronoy: Why would you want to?
[15:10] <ed__> I can't find much information about what's running under kubuntu and I'm curious if it came with Pulse Audio or not...
[15:11] <pronoy> Pici: actually i need to burn a microcontroller using linux and kontrollerlab has only dapper and gutys versions
[15:11] <pronoy> Pici: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=177228&package_id=215807&release_id=577618
[15:12] <mellhen> hello@all.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !pulse audio | ed__
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !info pulse audio
[15:12] <BluesKaj> err
[15:13] <ed__> !info pulse intrepid
[15:14] <Pici> pronoy: Well, it *may* work, but you may be better off looking for an actively developed product.
[15:14] <Pici> !info avrdude
[15:14] <mellhen> i there a reason for the delayed schedule of KDE4.2 Beta 2 Release?
[15:15] <pronoy> Pici: sourceforge.net i guess has the latest...so they have stopped developing this further
[15:15] <pronoy> Pici: is there a problem to try the older versions on intrepid ? do they damage the os ?
[15:16] <Pici> pronoy: In most cases it should be fine, but it may just not install either.  Those are third party packages so I really can't say either way.
[15:20] <pronoy> Pici: uh stupid question but....is gutsy the later version or dapper ?
[15:20] <Pici> pronoy: gutsy
[15:21] <erov> it's alphabetically ordered
[15:22] <bazhang> warty?
[15:24] <kamerigo> how can i list my eth?
[15:24] <bazhang> ifconfig
[15:27] <kamerigo> bazhang: there's a way to list also usb
[15:27] <kamerigo> ?
[15:27] <bazhang> lsusb kamerigo for usb, lspci for pci
[15:28] <Bozze> Im a total noob with ubuntu and I need help with synaptic and getting a game. I you got some time to spare pls W me.
[15:28] <bazhang> Bozze, what game
[15:28] <kamerigo> bazhang: and if usb doesn't give any resoult?
[15:28] <Bozze> BZflag
[15:28] <kamerigo> empty
[15:28] <bazhang> kamerigo, lsusb is what you typed in the konsole and there was nothing there?
[15:29] <kamerigo> no
[15:29] <bazhang> Bozze, what version of kubuntu
[15:30] <bazhang> Bozze, please in channel and not via PM
[15:30] <Bozze> ok, sry
[15:30] <antoranz> Hi guys!
[15:30] <Bozze> ubuntu 8.10
[15:30] <antoranz> I'm having this problem with some altgr combinations on KDE
[15:30] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install bzflag  Bozze
[15:30] <antoranz> (latin american layout)
[15:31] <antoranz> the keyboard works well... and some altgr combinations do work: `
[15:31] <antoranz> that's one that does work
[15:31] <antoranz> but I cant get the "at"
[15:31] <antoranz> not from altgr+q or altgr+2
[15:31] <kamerigo> bazhang: no result with lsusb
[15:31] <antoranz> but it does work on the VTs
[15:32] <bazhang> kamerigo, what are you looking for? your computer has no usb of any type?
[15:32] <Bozze> ok, its installed now
[15:32] <Bozze> how do I start it?
[15:32] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me with changing the password for su
[15:32] <antoranz> altgr+q on konsole shows me a list of addresses defined in /etc/hosts
[15:33] <kamerigo> bazhang: no isn't this pc is another with several usb
[15:33] <bazhang> kamerigo, you didnt answer my question: what are you trying to do/looking for
[15:33] <kamerigo> bazhang: but it's old... and i suppose that it's architetture wasn't recognized
[15:33] <Bozze> bazhang: how do I start it?
[15:34] <kamerigo> looking for lost usb
[15:34] <bazhang> Bozze, check in the games section of your menu? no idea as I dont have it installed
[15:34] <bazhang> kamerigo, lost usb?
[15:34] <kamerigo> usb works perfectly with win98
[15:34] <Bozze> bazhang: I found it, ty
[15:35] <bazhang> kamerigo, this is virtualbox?
[15:35] <kamerigo> but with kubuntu 8.10 no
[15:35] <kamerigo> virtual box?
[15:35] <kamerigo> no is an installation
[15:35] <Guest56402> jjjjjj
[15:35] <kamerigo> windows completely removed
[15:35] <bazhang> kamerigo, well you still have not explained what you want to do.
[15:36] <bazhang> kamerigo, you are trying to get a usb wifi device working? or something other
[15:36] <kamerigo> bazhang: i cannot see usb in console ... then them do not works with usb key
[15:37] <bazhang> kamerigo, you have a usb hub attached? a printer? a usb flash key you wish to boot from? what is the end goal here (please specify)
[15:38] <kamerigo> bazhang: the end goal is to have an usb key attacched
[15:38] <iceland_> hi there i need some help on samba as i am new to linux
[15:39] <bazhang> kamerigo, to transfer data? to boot an os from? a flash key or a hdd?
[15:39] <kamerigo> bazhang: to transfert data
[15:39] <kamerigo> flash key
[15:42] <bazhang> !samba > iceland_
[15:46] <Guest56402> Yes,I can
[15:47] <jon__> hi im getting an error while using apt
[15:48] <jon__> E: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (21 Is a directory)
[15:48] <jon__> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[15:48] <Pici> jon__: Do you have any other package managers open? adept? synaptic? update-manager?
[15:49] <jon__> no
[15:49] <Pici> !aptfix | jon__
[15:49] <iceland_>  <ubottu> iceland_, please see my private message  THANK YOU!
[15:49] <richardson> holas que tal
[15:50] <Pici> !es | richardson
[15:51] <richardson> ok
[15:51]  * genii hands Pici a large coffee
[15:52] <jon__> Pici didnt work
[15:52] <jon__> Pici same error
[15:53] <pronoy> Pici: it worked :)
[15:53] <Pici> 1 for 2.
[15:53] <Pici> jon__: You ran both commands that ubottu gave you?
[15:54] <genii> Pici: The error seems to indicate the lockfile is a directory, which seems odd
[15:54] <jon__> Pici yes
[15:54] <jon__> Pici before i had got the following error
[15:55] <jon__> Pici http://pastebin.com/d6840a73b
[15:55] <jimms> hey, can anyone help me setup mysql and sqlite on my kubuntu? i need them working to run this other application.
[15:55] <jon__> Pici then i used mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[15:56] <Pici> jon__: Thats not supposed to be a directory.
[15:56] <Pici> genii: Nice find.
[15:56] <Pici> jon__: Please remove the directory, run ubottu's commands and try again.
[15:56] <jon__> Pici k
[15:57] <BluesKaj> jon__, this cmnd ?  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:58] <BluesKaj> jon_ afterwards running this helps get rid of unwanted dependencies ,sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:58] <Pici> Yes, thats what ubottu  said.
[15:59] <BluesKaj> ok ubottu is an intelligent bot , despite what ppl say :)
[16:00] <genii> jimms: If you install them through the package manager they will be set up with safe default values. You need msql client only or server?
[16:03] <jon__> Pici E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[16:04] <SiVA_> so are GTK apps just as slow on kde 3.* as they are on kde 4.1 ?
[16:04] <SiVA_> for me, this is a major pain point.
[16:07] <LjL> SiVA_, i don't use kde 4, but i can't see a reason why they'd be any slower or any faster
[16:07] <LjL> they don't use the KDE libraries to begin with
[16:07] <SiVA_> Firefox is very clunky, and gtk apps just don't look righ
[16:07] <SiVA_> right
[16:07] <cuznt> firefox 3?
[16:07] <jimms> genii: i dunno, i wanna run a program which will create a database to store data, so what do you think? im not too good with this stuff..
[16:09] <SiVA_> yea
[16:09] <SiVA_> thunderbird and other apps too
[16:12] <jon__> BluesKaj E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[16:13] <genii> jimms: Then mysql server will be required
[16:14] <jimms> allright, can you help me install it
[16:14] <jimms> can't find it in adept
[16:14] <genii> jimms: If you install package mysql-server it will also install the client
[16:14] <genii> !info mysql-server
[16:14] <jimms> what abt sqlite?
[16:15] <genii> jimms: If you have mysql why do you need the sqlite?
[16:15] <jimms> actually
[16:15] <jimms> i think i will install sqlite
[16:15] <jimms> 100mbs for mysql
[16:15] <genii> jimms: As you like.
[16:16] <jimms> you know the name of the package?
[16:16] <jimms> !sqlite
[16:16] <genii> jimms: Just   sqlite            is the packagename
[16:16] <jimms> brb
[16:16] <jimms> sorry
[16:17] <desu> jon__: `sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial'
[16:18] <olivier_> !fr
[16:19] <_dfaure> apt-file update says "Can't get http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Contents-amd64.gz", how do I update the apt-file database?
[16:23] <compaq_> is anybody there
[16:24] <BluesKaj> _dfaure, try this http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/partner/
[16:24] <BluesKaj> compaq_, look in the nicklist ...how many do you see ?
[16:25] <compaq_> !!!!! well woww
[16:25] <_dfaure> what's "partner"?
[16:26] <jon__> desu thx
[16:26] <BluesKaj> just check it out _dfaure
[16:27] <_dfaure> that can't be it, the Packages file only has 3 packages
[16:27] <_dfaure> I'm looking for the full apt-file database
[16:28] <_dfaure> ok, http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/ has much more stuff than archive.ubuntu.com....
[16:30] <_jabba> how do i save my session? i can't find it in desktop preferences. is it somewhere else?
[16:30] <_dfaure> kde session? logging out saves it
[16:31] <_dfaure> ah ok apt-file problem solved, I was just fooled by the one warning in its output, meanwhile it updated from all other sources just fine.
[16:31] <pronoy> how do i compile a c file using the gcc compiler in the terminal ?
[16:31] <_dfaure> pronoy: gcc foo.c -o foo
[16:31] <jon__> desu debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[16:31] <pronoy> _dfaure: foo being the name of the file ?
[16:31] <_jabba> _dfaure: unfortunately, the widgets keep getting re-started
[16:32] <_dfaure> pronoy: foo.c is the source code, foo is the resulting executable
[16:32] <_jabba> pronoy: are you trying to compile a piece of code or a program?
[16:32] <_jabba> i mean, a distribution of something or an individual file?
[16:32] <pronoy> _jabba: yes a microcontroller programme using gcc-avr
[16:32] <_jabba> ah
[16:32] <_jabba> then listen to _dfaure:)
[16:32]  * _jabba has gotta reboot for a rassin frassin update
[16:33] <_dfaure> what's avr?
[16:33] <pronoy> avr is a company which makes microcontroller chips
[16:33] <_dfaure> ah
[16:34] <pronoy> it has a seperate compiler gcc-avr.....now the problem is how to use it ?!?!?
[16:34]  * _dfaure can't find the 32 bit version of libgcc.a...
[16:34] <genii> Umm... gcc-avr foo.c etcetera?
[16:35] <genii> Although possibly you just use gcc then specify arch
[16:38] <jimms> genii: hey sorry im back
[16:38] <jimms> genii: the package name is simply sqlite?
[16:39] <genii> jimms: Yes
[16:39] <rtdfgrtg5r> guys,do you also experience problems with vista partitions?The access to them is blocked
[16:40] <jimms> it installed but the program i wanna run stil won't open
[16:40] <jimms> it shows its loading, appears on the taskbar but then closes
[16:40] <bazhang> rtdfgrtg5r, in a dual boot with kubuntu?
[16:40] <rtdfgrtg5r> yes
[16:40] <genii> jimms: It doesn't have some sort of gui interface
[16:40] <bazhang> rtdfgrtg5r, or is this a windows only issue
[16:40] <rtdfgrtg5r> dualboot
[16:40] <jimms> genii: no no
[16:40] <jimms> genii: i mean, i wanna run this program called krecipes
[16:41] <jimms> genii: and it requires mysql or sqlite
[16:41] <jimms> genii:  so i installed sqlite
[16:41] <jimms> genii: when i run krecipes, it shows its loading, appears on the taskbar then closes
[16:41] <jimms> genii: all it requires is sqlite though
[16:41] <rtdfgrtg5r> gotta checkout forums again
[16:42] <bazhang> rtdfgrtg5r, did you unclean shutdown of vista? is this via samba or otherwise
[16:42] <bazhang> what is the exact error you get rtdfgrtg5r
[16:43] <jimms> !grub2
[16:43] <genii> jimms: You installed krecipes from the package manager or from somewhere else?
[16:43] <jimms> konsole
[16:44] <jimms> sudo apt-get install krecipes
[16:44] <genii> OK
[16:44] <jimms> something wrong with it
[16:44] <jimms> coz i just removed it
[16:44] <jimms> and it still appears on my application search
[16:44] <jimms> wasnt completely remobed
[16:44] <jimms> removed
[16:44] <genii> jimms: Removing an app will not wipe out it's shortcuts etc that get put in individual user's dirs
[16:45] <jimms> oh
[16:45] <bazhang> rtdfgrtg5r, is the partition with vista mounted?
[16:45] <genii> jimms: You can safely delete whatever it left on your menu or desktop, etc
[16:46] <genii> jimms: Anyhow if you still wanted to try install of it, maybe use:  sudo apt-get install -f krecipes                    which should pull in whatever dependencies it may require
[16:47] <lup0> Hello, anyone know about some sort of graphical disk/mount control in kde4.1?
[16:48] <jimms> ok
[16:48] <jimms> genii: how do i delete old shortcuts though?
[16:48] <jimms> then i will install it
[16:49] <genii> jimms: Usually right-click on them ... delete
[16:49] <genii> jimms: Although in kde4 there may be some special method
[16:50] <jimms> genii: no delete option
[16:51] <genii> jimms: If you are reinstalling it anyhow, just leave them
[16:51] <jimms> k
[16:52] <BluesKaj> still trying to figure out why my linux shared folders aren't showing up on the windows networked pcs , my connected printer does
[16:52] <ngirard> Hi all, I have a plain vanilla 105-key french keyboard. After migrating from 8.04 to 8.10, the "down" key generates a 116 (Multi_key) event. How can I fix this ?
[16:54] <jimms> genii: can u take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87175/
[16:55] <jimms> genii:  i think its neither removing or installing it completely
[16:55] <AltinT> hello, is there any way to reset ALL the hotkeys to the way they were on default? (any hard code way, because through the system settings nothing changes)
[16:55] <genii> jimms: No, according to your paste it correctly removed then installed it
[16:56] <genii> jimms: The other things are just warnings, they do not mean much
[16:57] <jimms> genii: because it says: setting up.... but doesnt say done
[16:57] <genii> jimms: Let it go a while
[16:57] <jimms> genii: oh well, its still not opening
[17:05] <genii> jimms: ctrl-c to interrupt it.
[17:06] <genii> jimms: Then try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:06] <BluesKaj> what cmnd lists shared folders ?
[17:24] <knusperfrosch> apachelogger: PyQt4 isn't working anymore, don't know if this related to kde-4.1.80 packages: the sip module supports API v3.0 to v3.7 but the PyQt4.QtCore module requires API v3.8
[17:25] <apachelogger> knusperfrosch: please join #kubuntu-devel
[17:26] <knusperfrosch> apachelogger: then correct the 4.1.80 release announcement s/#kubuntu/#kubuntu-devel/ ;)
[17:27] <aryaman> does anyone knows about ACE library?
[17:28] <aryaman> or any library where u can do network programming in C++
[17:28] <Pici> aryaman: ##c++ is a better channel to ask in.
[17:29] <aryaman> thanks
[17:30] <aryaman> ok...any one how to set up webcam in Kopete?
[17:31] <aryaman> ok...any one how to set up webcam in Kopete?
[17:32] <aryaman> no one?
[17:34]  * jussi01 doesntuse kopete, but he remembers there is  a config dialogue in the settings
[17:36] <Salze> aryaman: I just worked here. Plug webcam in and in the settings dialog I could see that it worked.
[17:42] <theriam> hi
[17:42] <theriam> anybody there? :)
[17:43] <theriam> I have a problem login in my kubuntu dist (intrepid)
[17:44] <theriam> it says "The following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:
[17:44] <theriam> No write acces to '/home/inma/.ICEauthority'.
[17:44] <theriam> KDE is unable to start
[17:45] <JontheEchidna> chown -R inma:inma ~/
[17:45] <JontheEchidna> actually: sudo chown -R inma:inma ~/
[17:45] <theriam> And then another window saying "Could no start ksmserver. Check your installation"
[17:45] <theriam> ok, i'll try now.
[17:45] <theriam> thanx. :-)
[17:45] <theriam> and one harder...
[17:46] <theriam> That problem was in my notebook. In my PC i have a problem with xinerama
[17:46] <theriam> I have my monitor and a LCD TV
[17:46] <theriam> an nvidia card with 2 PCI
[17:47] <theriam> With Kubuntu 7.10 there was no problem. Both of them worked as separated screens with xinerama
[17:47] <AltinT> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=202033&package_id=284428 ... can someone tell me which of these files i need? i'm on ubuntu 8.04 (hardy)
[17:47] <theriam> when i upgraded to 8.04 i lost my TV
[17:48] <theriam> when i config then with nvidia-settings, it recongnize my TV, set it up right, but theres no image in my TV
[17:48] <JontheEchidna> hmm, I don't know much about multi-monitor stuff
[17:48] <JontheEchidna> :(
[17:48] <theriam> :p
[17:48] <theriam> ok, thanx
[17:50] <theriam> hummm... how do i do the character of the ñ?
[17:50] <theriam> i have an spanish keyboard
[17:50] <theriam> in windows i call the ascii characters with alt+number
[17:50] <theriam> that is alt+126
[17:50] <theriam> how do i do it in console?
[17:51] <theriam> i need to put this caracther in console: ~
[17:51] <theriam> any idea?
[17:52] <theriam> ok, got it. :)
[17:52] <blizzz> qt 4 designer does not start, i crashes with this output: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/570
[17:52] <blizzz> to delete .config/Trolltech.conf does not help
[17:52] <blizzz> to change theme ando/or color scheme does not either
[17:53] <blizzz> any idea?
[17:55] <PSiL0> whew!  I managed to get imgburn to run in wine
[17:55] <PSiL0> though starting it up is a little hit or miss
[17:59] <theriam> ok, it worked. Thanx john. :)
[18:18] <hyper_ch> huhu
[18:19] <AltinT> i have just installed codelite, but i can't run it through alt+f2 ... how can i run the app?
[18:22] <drif> is there a way to monitor which tcp ports (when using ssh tunneling) are being forwarded and where to? as root of course
[18:22]  * JontheEchidna doesn't see any package in ubuntu named codelite
[18:23] <AltinT> JontheEchidna: it's not a package
[18:24] <AltinT> JontheEchidna: http://codelite.org/LiteEditor/Download
[18:27] <Guest8239> H i All , can someone possibly help me ?
[18:27] <AltinT> ubottu
[18:27] <Guest8239> when I run some programs on my ubuntu system all the menus are empty
[18:28] <Guest8239> the butons are there but they are all blank...
[18:28] <Guest8239> like some fonts are missing or something ?!
[18:28] <JontheEchidna> nope, it's a driver problem
[18:29] <Guest8239> oh (ears concentrating...)
[18:29] <Guest8239> what kind of driver coud it be ?
[18:29] <JontheEchidna> https://launchpad.net/bugs/294076
[18:29] <JontheEchidna> graphics driver
[18:30] <JontheEchidna> this comment provides a workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/294076/comments/14
[18:31] <Guest8239> i just read a few lines and this lokks like exactly the info  i was looking for.
[18:32] <Guest8239> you are great !
[18:32] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome
[18:32] <Guest8239> I f I was a woman I would want a baby from you now ;-)
[18:34] <Guest87770> how do i make firefox insetead of konquerer the default browser for when i cilck i link in kopete? (or is this a system-wide setting?)
[18:36] <JontheEchidna> Guest87770: System Settings -> Default applications
[18:37] <kamerigo> hei buddy there's gimp2 for kubuntu?
[18:39] <kamerigo> i got only gimp but i've seen that there are also plugin for gimp2
[18:39] <JontheEchidna> gimp is gimp2
[18:39] <kamerigo> anybody knows?
[18:39] <kamerigo> really?
[18:40] <JontheEchidna> yes, it's version 2.6
[18:41] <kamerigo> azz ... thank you JontheEchidna
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> :)
[18:42] <rebecca> join #tg-beta
[18:44] <Guest87770> jon
[18:44] <Guest87770> jontheEchidna: thanks!
[18:44] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome :)
[18:45] <Guest87770> there is a REALLY tough linux problem i am working on (from the perspective of a n00b such as i) but i'm not sure it's good to abuse #kubuntu for it...
[18:48] <liar_> hi, i need help with knetworkmanager, the icon in the controlbar is green and knetworkmanager finds no wlan networks(adapter has been detected) what can i do? i was able to connect to my router per iwconfig ath0 essid <wlanname>, dhclient ath0, but i want the comfort of knetworkmanager
[18:51] <troyvit> anybody else see weird gray borders around firefox form elements after upgrading to ibex?
[18:51] <smitt> hi to all
[18:54] <Guest87770> troyvit: installed dirctly to ibex, am n00b, didn't know those weren't the norm (they do look ugly tho)
[18:55] <jedix> does the lightly have the wrong permissions on kcheckpass?
[18:56] <jedix> mine did anyways
[18:56] <jedix> had to +s to make it work
[18:58] <Guest87770> what does it mean "to +s"
[18:58] <Guest87770> ?
[18:59] <jedix> chmod +s /opt/kde-nightly/lib/kde4/libexec/kcheckpass
[19:00] <jedix> set user id/group id on execution
[19:00] <jedix> otherwise it won't accept the password
[19:03] <christ> good day
[19:03] <christ> i need some help to install an USB Wireless
[19:04] <Ch1ppy> Hey, does anyone know if the 4.2 beta 2 will have kopete's msn support fixed? Or are we still waiting on libmsn?
[19:04] <Pupeno> Hello.
[19:04] <Pupeno> Anyone using KPhotoAlbum?
[19:04] <firefox> hop
[19:04] <JontheEchidna> Ch1ppy: the beta2 packages for intrepid will have msn support
[19:04] <Ch1ppy> JontheEchidna: Awesome! Thanks :)
[19:05] <b0uncer> Hi. If there are any KDE 4.2 beta1 + nVidia users, I'd like to know how it works out -- are there still performance issues, or anything bigger for that matter?
[19:05] <Guest87770> jedix: what, is that a command that needs to be executed to eliminate the gray borders around firefox form elements?
[19:05] <Guest87770> 'cuz i get "chmod: cannot access `/opt/kde-nightly/lib/kde4/libexec/kcheckpass': No such file or directory" when i use it :)
[19:06] <christ> who can help me please? i have follow this http://pastebin.com/m3f2ac813   But in step 4 i get this error  http://pastebin.com/m2373ee74
[19:06] <untiled> hi, anyhone know how to solve this bug? ata3: SRST failed (errno=16) i tried to search on launchpad but there's no fix, so i'm unable to fix it?
[19:07] <jimms> genii: you still there?
[19:09] <troyvit> christ: I suck at compiling stuff, but this error from your pastebin:
[19:09] <troyvit> #
[19:09] <troyvit> /home/christ/Driver/Module/rtmp_main.c:2214: fatal error: opening dependency file /home/christ/Driver/Module/.rtmp_main.o.d: Permission denied
[19:09] <jimms> anyone help me get an application working?
[19:09] <jimms> krecipes
[19:09] <jimms> !krecipes
[19:09] <troyvit> says to me that you need to make sure your permissions are set up right
[19:10] <christ> troyvit: let me try in sudo
[19:10] <troyvit> yeah that might do it
[19:10] <christ> troyvit: http://pastebin.com/m406e9fba
[19:13] <dricou> bonjour, j'ai un petit souci avec un IDE depuis que je suis sur kubuntu
[19:14] <dricou> what's the french channel plz ?
[19:14] <dricou> (:s
[19:15] <troyvit> christ: it's gone beyond what little I know, but I did see this old doc for ubuntu 6.10:
[19:15] <troyvit> well nevermind
[19:17] <jimms> anyone help me get krecipes to work?
[19:18] <oobe> christ try this apt-get install install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[19:18] <troyvit> oobe: christ left but maybe there will be a second coming
[19:18] <oobe> lol
[19:18] <oobe> i didnt notice
[19:19] <oobe> it is xmas
[19:19] <oobe> if it were easter i would dare say he would be back for sure
[19:19] <AltinT> hey, how do i enable compiz in kubuntu? i have it installed, but i can't see all the fancy effects ...
[19:19] <troyvit> buahaha
[19:20] <antonio_> c'è un italiano qui dentro??
[19:21] <smitt> where kde41 installs after ./confi.. make & make install?
[19:22] <smitt> and can i delete tarfiles now?
[19:22] <jedix> smitt: /opt maybe?
[19:23] <genii> jimms: Work needed me, sort of back now. krecipes still not going?
[19:24] <oobe> AltinT, you can test it by typing compiz --replace in console
[19:25] <jimms> genii: hey man, allrite
[19:25] <jimms> genii: yup, not working
[19:26] <oobe> AltinT, compiz  --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp --loose-binding --indirect-rendering
[19:26] <oobe> sleep 2
[19:26] <oobe> emerald --replace &
[19:26] <oobe> put that in a script
[19:26] <Pupeno> Anyone using KPhotoAlbum?
[19:26] <oobe> Pupeno, im not
[19:28] <oobe> j #redhat
[19:29] <genii> jimms: After command:  apt-cache policy krecipes                is there a line with ***   (indicates some installed version)
[19:30] <erisdiscordia-ku> any sound experts around?
[19:30] <erisdiscordia-ku> cannot get sound working for the life of me
[19:30] <sepaht> hello
[19:30] <hyper_ch> erisdiscordia-ku: my onboard card just works (tm)
[19:30] <erisdiscordia-ku> if only, if only... :)
[19:31] <erisdiscordia-ku> amarok throws "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers" at me
[19:31] <erisdiscordia-ku> other gui apps with sound are just silently silent
[19:31] <hyper_ch> erisdiscordia-ku: check your phonon settings
[19:31] <erisdiscordia-ku> and aplay without options gives "ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:866:(snd1_pcm_direct_initialize_slave) snd_pcm_hw_params_any failed"
[19:32] <erisdiscordia-ku> "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1020:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to initialize slave"
[19:32] <hyper_ch> no clue
[19:33] <AltinT> oooob:e
[19:34] <jimms> genni
[19:34] <jimms> krecipes:
[19:34] <jimms>   Installed: (none)
[19:34] <jimms>   Candidate: 1.0~beta1-1.1ubuntu1
[19:34] <jimms>   Version table:
[19:34] <jimms>      1.0~beta1-1.1ubuntu1 0
[19:34] <jimms>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages
[19:34] <jimms>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[19:34] <genii> jimms: Please don't paste it all here!
[19:34] <hyper_ch> erisdiscordia-ku: http://www.spinics.net/lists/alsa-devel/msg12421.html
[19:34] <jimms> sorry but it wasnt much though
[19:34] <genii> jimms: So no *** means not installed
[19:35] <genii> jimms: Try again the install of it.
[19:35] <jimms> i uninistalled it
[19:35] <jimms> ok
[19:35] <genii> jimms: Did you use the --purge when uninstal last time?
[19:35] <erisdiscordia-ku> hyper_ch, saw that too, the person went on to just say "Found a miss configured compile option" in their next message though :(
[19:36] <erisdiscordia-ku> still, thanks
[19:36] <hyper_ch> erisdiscordia-ku: you're on 8.10?
[19:37] <jimms> genii:  no
[19:37] <Guest89914> oobe: something went wrong :p
[19:37] <manish_> my sleep and hybernate got disfunctional a few days ago ... i want to bring it back to life on my laptop (Acer Aspire).... plese help me with that
[19:37] <Guest89914> altin@altin-linux:~$ compiz  --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp --loose-binding --indirect-rendering
[19:37] <Guest89914> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[19:37] <Guest89914> Detected PCI ID for VGA: 03:00.0 0300: 10de:0421 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[19:37] <Guest89914> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
[19:37] <Guest89914> Checking for non power of two support: present.
[19:37] <Guest89914> Checking for Composite extension: present.
[19:37] <jimms> i just installed it again, and nothing
[19:37] <Guest89914> Comparing resolution (1680x1050) to maximum 3D texture size (8192): Passed.
[19:37] <Guest89914> Checking for nVidia: present.
[19:37] <Guest89914> Checking for FBConfig: present.
[19:37] <Guest89914> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[19:37] <erisdiscordia-ku> yes, installed fresh to it
[19:37] <Guest89914> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: Plugin 'core' already active
[19:37] <Guest89914> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: Plugin 'ccp' already active
[19:37] <Guest89914> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[19:37] <jimms> genii: how do i completely and totally uninstall it?
[19:37] <erisdiscordia-ku> problem also repros from live cd
[19:38] <manish_> my sleep and hybernate got disfunctional a few days ago ... i want to bring it back to life on my laptop (Acer Aspire).... plese help me with that
[19:39] <oobe> AltinT, my suggestion is you read up on compiz and xorg settings appropriate to your video card
[19:40] <manish_> oobe my sleep and hybernate got disfunctional a few days ago ... i want to bring it back to life on my laptop (Acer Aspire).... can you please help me with that
[19:40] <jimms> genii?
[19:41] <AltinT> oobe: isn't there any place where i can configure compiz: right now my top bar is gone (ie i can't colse windows or resize them)
[19:41] <AltinT> oobe: any idea how to at least get that part back? :p
[19:42] <genii> jimms: If it's currently installed:   sudo apt-get remove --purge krecipes
[19:43] <jimms> just did
[19:43] <genii> jimms: I may not respond for long periods, my work is busy here. But be assured I am around and paying attention :)
[19:44] <genii> jimms: I think you may want to do update this time before trying to to install it. Something may have changed which it requires. So:  sudo apt-get update         and then let this complete.
[19:44] <alfio> weeeeeeeeeee
[19:44] <alfio> ciao
[19:44] <DaSkreech> !bye
[19:44] <erisdiscordia-ku> hyper_ch: hmmm... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[19:45] <erisdiscordia-ku> i'll give you the credit for inspiring me to land here
[19:45] <erisdiscordia-ku> wish me luck
[19:46] <manish_> my sleep and hybernate got disfunctional a few days ago ... i want to bring it back to life on my laptop (Acer Aspire).... plese help me with that
[19:47] <jimms> genii: ok
[19:47] <hyper_ch> upps...
[19:47] <hyper_ch> I almost made a funny comment and realized this is a serious support channel
[19:47] <jimms> genii:  it said some files were not downloaded
[19:49] <genii> jimms: Can you use the pastebin please, and show us what it is saying?
[19:49] <genii> !pastebin | jimms
[19:49] <hyper_ch> !ru
[19:49] <jimms> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87279/
[19:50] <genii> jimms: You need to uncheck the cdrom entries in Adept (Add/Remove Programs)
[19:51] <moi> hi, when i'm in screensaver, i type my password and it doesn't work
[19:51] <moi> is it a bug ?
[19:52] <jimms> successful update
[19:52] <jimms> genii: went smooth
[19:54] <genii> jimms: OK. So try this time to install krecipes from in Add/Remove Programs instead of from command line
[19:54] <jimms> ok
[19:56] <jimms> genii: krecipes isnt found
[19:57] <jimms> genii: is there a way to increase the number of packages shown in adept
[19:57] <jimms> genii:  my adept doesnt show anything
[19:57] <jimms> genii: always have to rely on the konsole
[19:59] <mellhen>  is there a reason for the delayed schedule of KDE4.2 Beta 2 Release?
[19:59] <DaSkreech> jimms: 8.10 ?
[19:59] <jimms> yaa
[19:59] <mellhen> yep
[19:59] <DaSkreech> mellhen: KDE delayed the announcement so Kubuntu waits on the official announcement
[19:59] <DaSkreech> jimms: sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[20:00] <genii> jimms: Your adept doesn't show anything because you haven't disabled the cdroms as sources as I already told you
[20:01] <jimms> even when updating after disabling the cdrom sources
[20:01] <jimms> nothing
[20:01] <mellhen> DaSkreech: do you know, in how many hours it will release. I dont wanne wait the whole night, like this mornig. Or should i go to bed now?
[20:01] <jimms> now im doing what daskreech told me to
[20:01] <jimms> DaSkreech: whats that command for
[20:02] <genii> jimms: Hm. Can you please pastebin the contents of the file:  /etc/apt/sources.list           please. I suspect it is empty
[20:02] <jimms> sure
[20:02] <DaSkreech> mellhen: I'll try and find out
[20:02] <mellhen> DaSkreech: thx
[20:04] <isaacj87> JontheEchidna: Hey, I saw you've built kde 4.2 beta 2. I'm currently updating, is it okay to? I haven't seen a true release announcement.
[20:04] <jimms> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87288/
[20:06] <genii> jimms: Weird, looks fine
[20:07] <DaSkreech> mellhen: Go to bed
[20:08] <jimms> genii:  ya genni, no matches found
[20:08] <jimms> genii: should i update to kde 4.2?
[20:12] <DaSkreech> jimms: wrong question
[20:12] <genii> jimms: I doubt that will help anything much
[20:12] <mellhen> DaSkreech: k
[20:12] <mellhen> DaSkreech_ and thx again. we ll se tomorrow
[20:12] <DaSkreech> mellhen: Seems that it's out when it's out. No one has a direct time
[20:15] <mellhen> DaSkreech: The thing i do now unserstand is, that the packages were already available, and taken backe now. We are loosing time for bugreports and fixing now. It should be possible to get them before release! The thing is. THE RELEASE of BETA2 is important for piublic, but not for developers nor bugreporters
[20:15] <mellhen> now=not
[20:16] <DaSkreech> mellhen: Courtesy goes a very longway in the open source world
[20:17] <DaSkreech> mellhen: and that's the other way arond it's important for Developers and not for the public
[20:17] <jimms> i dunno, lot of people using it
[20:17] <jimms> maybe change things up would help
[20:18] <knowledgeispwr_> does anyone know if/when the kubuntu-experimental repository will upgrade to KDE 4.2 Beta 2?
[20:18] <mellhen> DaSkreech: ok ill try tomorrow
[20:18] <ubuntu_> Hey everyone. I normally use Ubuntu, but I was interested in starting to use Kubuntu. So I put the Live CD into my drive, and booted off of it. Everything seems to be working fine right now, and I am about to install it, HOWEVER, I can't seem to figure out how to connect my bluetooth mouse. Can someone guide me?
[20:18] <DaSkreech> knowledgeispwr_: As soon as KDE announces Beta 2 is out
[20:19] <DaSkreech> remu: Far as I know bluetooth was broken in Ibex you may need the Gnome client for that
[20:19] <knowledgeispwr_> DaSkreech, thanks
[20:19] <remu> DaSkreech: do you know how I may be able to do that?
[20:22] <DaSkreech> remu: Just apt-get install it
[20:22] <remu> DaSkreech: i understand that, but do you know what the package name is that I need to apt-get?
[20:23] <jimms> how do i completely remove krecipes from my system
[20:23] <jimms> and then install it again
[20:23] <DaSkreech> no sorry
[20:24] <remu> DaSkreech: no worries, I think I have found it.
[20:24] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get remove --purge krecipes && sudo apt-get install krecipes
[20:25] <kevin_> I have just installed hardy heron. I have no sound...after checking the jack, what is the first thing I should do?
[20:26] <jimms> strill nothing
[20:26] <DaSkreech> !sound
[20:26] <kevin_> amarok recognizes the file and is playing it. I just can't hear it
[20:27] <DaSkreech> kevin_: click the speaker click mixer then make sure everything is up and not muted
[20:27] <BluesKaj> !alsa
[20:27] <BluesKaj> hmmm
[20:29] <kevin_> master is up,pcm is up, front is up, surround is muted ass is LFE , center is muted  and slide is muted.
[20:29] <genii> jimms: When you see it installing, is it also installing krecipes-data and/or krecipes-doc       ?
[20:29] <kevin_> I have now unmuted everything and the sliders are over half way up
[20:29] <kevin_> still no sound
[20:29] <jimms> data
[20:31] <genii> jimms: Hm. It's a longshot but perhaps the deb file which is cahed ws not completely downloaded. After it is removed once more, do:  sudo apt-get clean               then after that try again the install of it
[20:32] <jimms> sudo apt-get clean?
[20:33] <kevin_> sound system is enabled. I will try the community links the ubotto gave me.
[20:33] <genii> jimms: There may also be an rc file in the ~/.kde/share/config   directory which has some values in it perhaps prior to when you installed sqlite for it to use, or so. You could delete the file there. It would be something like krecipsrc
[20:34] <genii> jimms: Yes: sudo apt-get clean                             this cleans out the deb files which get downloaded when you install something
[20:35] <genii> jimms: Once in a rare time the download gets broken but when the system next goes to install something it doesn't check file length to see if te whole thing exists, so it always fail to install properly. This is not common however
[20:36] <AltinT> is there some hotkey in kubuntu to show the desktop?
[20:36] <DaSkreech> alt+ctrl+D I think
[20:38] <AltinT> DaSkreech: that only works with compiz installed
[20:39] <jimms> did that
[20:39] <jimms> installed it
[20:39] <jimms> nothing
[20:39] <jimms> :(
[20:39] <DaSkreech> AltinT: Hmm There is a show desktop button and you can add in any hotkey in your resource file so you should be able to get that to work pretty easy
[20:41] <genii> jimms: Is it still locking up when it gets to "configuring" or so?
[20:41] <genii> Or possibly "updating database"
[20:42] <jimms> genii: i click, the little icon following the mouse (boucing up down) shows up, it appears on the taskbar and then the icon disapears, i try clicking it in the taskbar and it disapears
[20:43] <AltinT> DaSkreech: i thought kde4 didn't have a show desktop button? that would be even better :p
[20:43] <genii> jimms: This is when you are trying install from in Adept of it?
[20:43] <DaSkreech> AltinT: it's in the add widgets dialog just open it and filter on desktop
[20:44] <jimms> sudo apt-get install krecipes
[20:45] <genii> jimms: OK. Earlier you remarked when trying to install from that command it never finished but hung up at a certain point. Is it still doing this, or is it coming back to $ prompt?
[20:46] <jimms> it always has come back to $ prompt
[20:46] <jimms> the line before though
[20:46] <jimms> says this
[20:47] <jimms> Setting up krecipes (1.0~beta1-1.1ubuntu1) ...
[20:47] <jimms> which sounds like its not done
[20:48] <genii> jimms: Yes. Let it sit there on that for at least a couple minutes and see if it eventually times out, or what
[20:49] <jimms> never times out
[20:49] <jimms> just sits there
[20:49] <genii> jimms: So it goes "Setting up krecipes [whatever-ver]"   then comes back to $           ?
[20:49] <zer0o> hi guys how do i make the "weather" appea next to my date and time?
[20:50] <genii> jimms: If so then this is correct and it did finishe install without error
[20:50] <BluesKaj> drag it , zer0o
[20:50] <zer0o> ?
[20:50] <jimms> like you said
[20:50] <zer0o> BluesKaj: u mean... from out the window?
[20:51] <genii> jimms: Let me think a while on it
[20:51] <BluesKaj> zer0o, yes, make sure you open the add widgets icon first
[20:51] <jimms> genii: sure
[20:52] <zer0o> BluesKaj: alright now, jokes apart... how do i do?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> zer0o, are you on 8.10 first of all ?
[20:52] <zer0o> nope, im on 8.04 and run kde3
[20:53] <BluesKaj> zer0o, you should still be able to drag it into the panel from wherever
[20:53] <zer0o> i dont really get what ur saying
[20:54] <zer0o> give me an example
[20:54] <BluesKaj> just try it
[20:54] <genii> jimms: Does command:   ls ~/.kde/share/config/krecipe*                          say anything back or just return to $ ?
[20:54] <DaSkreech> awww
[20:54] <DaSkreech> http://web.mornfall.net/blog/farewell__44___adept.html
[20:55] <zer0o> BluesKaj: try what? could u precisely explain yourself?
[20:56] <jimms> thiago@tm-vaio:~$ ls ~/.kde/share/config/krecipe*
[20:56] <jimms> /home/thiago/.kde/share/config/krecipesrc
[20:56] <jimms> thats all it gives
[20:57] <PSiL0> DaSkreec: How is kpackageit?
[20:57] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: Or should we all just continue to use synaptic
[20:58] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: No clue about to find out
[20:58] <genii> jimms: rm ~/.kde/share/config/krecipe*
[20:59] <AltinT> DaSkreech: any idea what it's called? i can't find it anywhere? ...
[20:59] <jimms> that gives notihng
[20:59] <jimms> returns back to $
[20:59] <DaSkreech> AltinT: Show Desktop or show dashboard I forget which
[21:01] <genii> jimms: Good. When it does not say something, that is a good thing. It's when you give and a command and it groans then you worry :)
[21:01] <AltinT> DaSkreech: looks like there isn't one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753694
[21:02] <DaSkreech> AltinT: Serious? what version are you on?
[21:02] <DaSkreech> AltinT: Bah!! did you install the extra plasmoids package?
[21:02] <janek> test test
[21:02] <janek> it works ;-)
[21:04] <AltinT> DaSkreech: i'm on 4.1 ... and no, i don't think so ... can i get that in adept?
[21:04] <DaSkreech> Yes
[21:05] <AltinT> DaSkreech: ok i'll have a look :)
[21:05] <AltinT> DaSkreech: thanks!
[21:07] <AltinT> DaSkreech: i installed it, but can't see anything new ... should i maybe log in and out again?
[21:08] <DaSkreech> AltinT: kquitapp plasma ; plasma should work
[21:08] <AltinT> DaSkreech: shoudl i type that in terminal?
[21:09]  * erisdiscordia is looking for sound gurus or semi-gurus
[21:09] <horus_> nickname ..3++++0000000000000<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000....................................................................
[21:09] <horus_> 3.0322
[21:10] <Altin1> DaSkreech: i still don't see any new addons
[21:11] <DaSkreech> :-(
[21:12] <ubuntu_> Hello
[21:12] <formating> Hey is here someone?
[21:13] <Altin1> DaSkreech: working now :p
[21:13] <Altin1> thanks man!
[21:13] <DaSkreech> Altin1: What did you do?
[21:13] <Altin1> install another package with this description -> "This dummy package is provided for a smooth transition from kdeplasmoids to the new version, named kdeplasma-addons. It may safely be removed after installation."
[21:14] <Guildenstern> hm.. I have issues with firefox and Kubuntu 8.10
[21:14] <Guildenstern> firefox has seg faults
[21:14] <formating> is Kubuntu 8.10 working well on older Pc's?
[21:15] <Guildenstern> formating: how old?
[21:15] <formating> 21
[21:15] <Guildenstern> your PC?
[21:15] <formating> Im just searching for the right Linux for my Pc (im noob)
[21:16] <formating> I have 1,1 Ghz 32mb graphiccard and 512 mb ram
[21:16] <Altin1> man i love the ctrl+f8 hotkey in KDE4
[21:16] <DaSkreech> formating: 1.1 GHz what?
[21:16] <formating> cpu ^^
[21:16] <DaSkreech> Altin1: What's that do?
[21:16] <DaSkreech> formating: Duh :) which CPU?
[21:17] <formating> Amd ?
[21:18] <formating> I would prefer a nice working Linux Distri for beginner
[21:18] <Altin1> DaSkreech: it devides the screen over the open windows, you get a great view, and much easier to switch from window :)
[21:18] <formating> Im installing Kubunto 7.04 right now
[21:18] <DaSkreech> formating: You just described my computer
[21:18] <DaSkreech> Well I'm 1.2
[21:18] <DaSkreech> but close enough
[21:18] <formating> Hehe lol
[21:19] <DaSkreech> I can tell you I wouldn't mind more RAM but it works
[21:19] <formating> You have which Distri,  DaSkreech?
[21:20] <jimms> genii: i think im going off
[21:20] <DaSkreech> 8.10
[21:20] <DaSkreech> Kubunt
[21:20] <Guildenstern> i just can say with 1.6GHz and 1GB kde4 rocks already pretty well
[21:20] <jimms> genii: might leave it for another time
[21:20] <formating> Should i use Kubunto 8.10 too? i mean with my old Pc
[21:21] <DaSkreech> formating: I don't know. That's your choice
[21:22] <formating> Actually i wanted to ask if, it would run smooth on my Pc...
[21:23] <Psycho_Sonic> hi, I'm trying to burn the installation disc
[21:23] <Psycho_Sonic> and got a weird error
[21:23] <Psycho_Sonic> I'm using IMGBurn, burning at 4x
[21:23] <Psycho_Sonic> I got the iso from the kubuntu site
[21:23] <Psycho_Sonic> here's a pic
[21:24] <Psycho_Sonic> http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/Psycho_Sonic/wut2.png
[21:24] <Psycho_Sonic> says "failed to read from file: kubunut yadda yadda.iso"
[21:25] <Guildenstern> wow... now I know why firefox always crashes.. my /home partition is full
[21:25] <formating> lol
[21:25] <Psycho_Sonic> "reason:data error (cyclic redundancy check)"
[21:25] <Altin1>  how can i see if a particular application was installed or not?
[21:25] <Altin1> i can't find it through alt+f2
[21:25] <Psycho_Sonic> is it the file's problem, or the media?
[21:25] <Guildenstern> fu
[21:27] <Guildenstern> ls
[21:27] <formating> I liked Xubuntu, but i wasnt able to run any game on it...
[21:28] <Psycho_Sonic> um
[21:28] <Psycho_Sonic> anyone know anything about my problem?
[21:29] <formating> no sry
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> just wondering about the burning problem
[21:29] <OxDeadC0de> psycho_sonic whip out a cd-rw and try with that
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> ok
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> be back
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> brb
[21:29] <OxDeadC0de> psycho_sonic if it keeps doing that, probably bad d/l
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> ok
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> >
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> :/
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> well
[21:29] <Psycho_Sonic> my cd's are Nexxtech
[21:30] <Psycho_Sonic> i've never heard of them
[21:30] <Psycho_Sonic> >_>
[21:30] <formating> Does Kubuntu have Gnome or Kde or both?
[21:30] <OxDeadC0de> just kde formating
[21:30] <OxDeadC0de> but you can get gnome too..
[21:30] <formating> Damn i like the Gnome interface
[21:31] <Psycho_Sonic> Formating
[21:31] <Guildenstern> the you should use Ubuntu
[21:31] <Psycho_Sonic> that's the dif between Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[21:31] <OxDeadC0de> i prefer kde4's as long as it's not going slow (only goes slow with kwin for me, compiz fixes it)
[21:32] <formating> I guess Desktop wouldnt run well with 1,1 Ghz Cpu
[21:32] <formating> Desktop effects i mean!
[21:32] <erisdiscordia> what might be causing the pulseaudio applet to give me a series of 2 "connection failed invalid server" errors every time i try to access the volume manager?
[21:32] <OxDeadC0de> formating depends on the video card, some nvidias are buggy and have the same symptoms as mine, while a lot of intel cards are really fast with kde4
[21:32] <erisdiscordia> (with sound entirely failing to work)
[21:32] <Altin1> where can you activate and deactive kwin?
[21:33] <formating> I have Ati Radeon 7200 (32 mb ram)
[21:33] <OxDeadC0de> erisdiscordia your pulseaudio server crashed, open a terminal and try "pulseaudio &"
[21:34] <OxDeadC0de> altin1 since i have compiz-fusion installed I use fusion-icon to switch kwin and emerald
[21:34] <erisdiscordia> OxDeadC0de: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87333/
[21:34] <formating> So Ubuntu uses Gnome and Kubuntu Gnome? Which Desktop enviroment runs faster on older Pcs?
[21:34] <formating> I mean Kubuntu uses Kde
[21:35] <Guildenstern> yes and Xubnuntu uses XFCE
[21:35] <compilerwriter> formating Gnome and Kde are a bit resource intensive.  If you have an older box I would suggest xbuntu.
[21:35] <OxDeadC0de> erisdiscordia in a 10 second google search: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/223103
[21:35] <genii> formating: For older boxes Xubuntu is probably the best of your available *buntu flavours
[21:36] <erisdiscordia> OxDeadC0de: don'
[21:36] <erisdiscordia> t talk 10 second google searches with me, i've been googling for 4 days :)
[21:36] <erisdiscordia> not all this error though
[21:36] <Altin1> OxDeadC0de: i'll give that a try, but if i understand well ... kwin is slower? is kwin the default effects that kde4 has?
[21:36] <Guildenstern> has kde4 no auto-mounter for usb devices?
[21:37] <formating> But with Xubuntu im not able to use all my potential, even if its not much
[21:37] <OxDeadC0de> erosdoscordia what does syslog show when you reload alsa?
[21:37] <compilerwriter> formating I personally prefer kde to gnome.  I am running it on an older box but it had a lot of memory for its time.
[21:37] <OxDeadC0de> altin1: yes it's the default
[21:37] <genii> formating: Next least-reource hog then is Gnome (regular Ubuntu)
[21:38] <genii> formating: If your machine is extremely ancient you may want instead some linux that is specifically for this situation like Damn Small Linux  or PuppyLinux
[21:38] <erisdiscordia> OxDeadC0de: although i've been trying to learn as fast as i can and still remember something from past false starts, i've only been on linux for about 5 days
[21:39] <formating> I dont think i can handle some specialised Distri, cuz im extremly newb
[21:39] <erisdiscordia> so i don't know how to reload
[21:39] <genii> formating: I would suggest then to try first regular Ubuntu and see how it goes
[21:40] <Guildenstern> so what's wrong with xubuntu?
[21:40] <formating> Ok thx for the assist guys! Om Restartin my pc and stard downloadin Ubuntu 8.04
[21:40] <OxDeadC0de> "/etc/init.d/alsa force-reload" erisdiscordia
[21:43] <erisdiscordia> OxDeadC0de: here's the bash output for now
[21:43] <erisdiscordia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/87339/
[21:44] <erisdiscordia> i should note that i had to kind of violently install pulse-audio to get the applet to show up at all
[21:44] <erisdiscordia> as per a page noting problems with pulseaudio in hardy and intrepid
[21:45] <erisdiscordia> and should also note that sound has not worked for one minute since installation... doesn't work on a live cd either... 8.10
[21:45] <erisdiscordia> fine in xp
[21:47] <genii> erisdiscordia: Even though you are in /etc/init.d you are not running the file there. When you are issuing sudo alsa whatever   it's running the file alsa in likely /bin or wherever
[21:47] <genii> erisdiscordia: Try sudo ./alsa whatever
[21:48] <erisdiscordia> sudo ./alsa force-reload
[21:48] <OxDeadC0de> Erisdiscordia what sound card do you have specifically?
[21:48] <erisdiscordia> :D
[21:49] <erisdiscordia> hda-intel
[21:49] <erisdiscordia> OxDeadC0de: hda-intel
[21:49] <OxDeadC0de> erisdiscordia "dmesg | grep hda"
[21:52] <erisdiscordia> OxDeadC0de: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87344/
[21:53] <erisdiscordia> perhaps interesting that it mentions an ALC883, my device name ends in 888
[21:53] <gustavonarea> Hello
[21:54] <gustavonarea> Am I the only who can't open kmail or kontact after upgrading from KDE 4.2 Beta 1 to Beta 2?
[21:56] <DaSkreech> How did you upgrade?
[21:56] <JontheEchidna> gustavonarea: apt-cache policy libakonadiprivate1 plz
[21:57] <erisdiscordia> (genii: "sudo ./alsa force-reload" just gives me "sudo: ./alsa: command not found")
[21:57] <gustavonarea> JontheEchidna: http://paste.chrisarndt.de/paste/1a6d12fb05084a54b636da778ddd32a7
[21:58] <JontheEchidna> hmm, kmail works here
[21:58] <JontheEchidna> and that version of akonadi should be good
[21:58] <gustavonarea> DaSkreech: I just did `sudo apt-get update`, `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[21:59] <gustavonarea> JontheEchidna: this is what I get: http://paste.chrisarndt.de/paste/84313f44ee01453f83a9a9eff2d83520
[21:59] <genii> erisdiscordia: I think you might actually want there: sudo ./alsasound restart
[21:59] <OxDeadC0de> genii he's probably in his home folder ./ is no good
[22:00] <OxDeadC0de> directory* sry
[22:00] <JontheEchidna> gustavonarea: apt-cache policy soprano
[22:00] <erisdiscordia> OxDeadC0de, genii: prompt at the moment is erik@kzuk:/etc/init.d$
[22:00] <JontheEchidna> wait, nevermind
[22:00] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[22:00] <OxDeadC0de> oh k
[22:00]  * JontheEchidna doesn't know what could be wrong
[22:00] <gustavonarea> JontheEchidna: W: Unable to locate package soprano
[22:01] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[22:01] <DaSkreech> gustavonarea: The blazes? when did that happen I tried that 2 hours ago
[22:01] <JontheEchidna> nevermind about that one
[22:01] <gustavonarea> DaSkreech: I just upgraded. It's been less than 10 min
[22:02] <OxDeadC0de> gustavonarea lines 14-16 seem interesting to me from your paste
[22:02] <gustavonarea> Should I install the "soprano" package?
[22:03] <erisdiscordia> genii: sudo: ./alsasound: command not found :'(
[22:03] <OxDeadC0de> i don't know, all I know from that is it's a failed policy-kit transaction
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> gustavonarea: there isn't a soprano package, nevermind about that :P
[22:03] <gustavonarea> JontheEchidna: ah, ok :)
[22:05] <gustavonarea> Should I ask on #kde?
[22:05] <JontheEchidna> no, might be a kubuntu problem
[22:06] <OxDeadC0de> er sry not policy-kit but dbus ^^
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> I am not sure what the problem is, and I can't investigate since the launchpad website is down
[22:06]  * JontheEchidna thinks of something
[22:17] <ubuntu_> hello ppl
[22:18] <DaSkreech> !hi
[22:18] <ubuntu_> hey daskreech where u from
[22:20] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: The internet
[22:20] <ubuntu_> you know what i mean
[22:20] <ddfire> hi
[22:20] <ddfire> please help
[22:20] <jaegger> homeric powned
[22:21] <ddfire> my control's key have been exchanged for example i need to press rigth control  + t to open new tab
[22:21] <jussi01> !ot | ubuntu_
[22:22] <ngirard> Hi all, I have a plain vanilla 105-key french keyboard. After migrating from 8.04 to 8.10, the "down" key generates a 116 (Multi_key) event. How can I fix this ?
[22:22] <gustavonarea> Say I have a mess in my KDE4 packages in Intrepid... what would be the best way to "reset it all"? Please don't tell me "do a fresh install"...
[22:26] <ddfire> no one?????????????
[22:27] <compilerwriter> ddfire it can be fixed in keyboard settings.  I am trying to remember how to get to at moment.
[22:28] <DaSkreech> gustavonarea: dump KDE and reinstall
[22:29] <gustavonarea> DaSkreech: How? Is there a package that I can remove and then install again?
[22:30] <DaSkreech> gustavonarea: kdelibs5
[22:30] <DaSkreech> All of KDE depends on it . Remove that and pretty much all of KDE goes away
[22:30] <DaSkreech> Some packages KDE depends on remain but that's generally ok. Unless they are the ones giving problems :)
[22:30] <DaSkreech> In which case just remove them
[22:31] <gustavonarea> DaSkreech: OK, I'll log out to remove it... I'll be back once it's done...
[22:32]  * dr_willis wonders how  Gustavonarea broke kde that badly...
[22:32] <carlos> hello
[22:32] <Turbo> hello
[22:33] <DaSkreech> I don't think he did I just think he think he did
[22:33] <DaSkreech>  assuming gustavonarea is a he
[22:33] <derdui> Hi has anybody an idea, why under Intrepid my display is flimmering? but only when I use KD4.1 with gnome I have no problem
[22:34] <dr_willis> sounds like a Compositing quirk/issue if other Window managers are ok.
[22:34] <derdui> and what can i do, to solve that problem?
[22:35] <ddfire> derdui: video card?
[22:35] <derdui> its an intel, but i dont know the model
[22:36] <rniamo> hi, i read there was an update to kopete in kde 4.2 to have msn support, i don't see it, where is it ?
[22:36] <ddfire> derdui: update to the latest drivers
[22:36] <ddfire> derdui: and aplay the change to X11
[22:37] <derdui> ok, i have allready reinstalled kubuntu... but how to apply X11 ddfire
[22:38] <ddfire> derdui: install the latest drivers not kubuntu
[22:39] <derdui> ok, but where do i find the latest ones?
[22:41] <ddfire> derdui: intel site?
[22:42] <derdui> ah, oki:) now last question there was an order, to find out, the running hardware on a system... ddfire
[22:47] <keres> how do you configure konversation to minimize once you press the close button?
[22:47] <keres> minimize to the trey, i mean
[22:47] <keres> tray*
[22:48] <JontheEchidna> Settings -> Behavior -> General
[22:48] <JontheEchidna> tick "enable system tray"
[22:50] <keres> i don't have settings->behavior
[22:50] <JontheEchidna> I meant from the configure konversatoin dialog
[22:51] <keres> thank you :)
[22:51] <JontheEchidna> :)
[22:51] <rniamo> how could i have msn into kopete ?
[22:52] <zer0o> hi guys, trying to play alien arena without success, if launched from a terminal thats the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/87376/
[22:52] <zer0o> why can't i play it?
[22:58] <dr_willis> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:58] <dr_willis> I would guess you dont have the proper 3d drivers installed yet.
[22:59] <marcelo> hu guys
[22:59] <marcelo> maybe you can help me
[22:59] <marcelo> since I installed KDE 4.2 beta, using the kubuntu.org approach, some plasmoids stopped working
[23:00] <marcelo> I receive errors like this:
[23:00] <marcelo> Could not find requested component: showdesktop
[23:00] <marcelo> anybody has some tips about this problem ?