[05:59] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, ping
[06:45] <soee> correct me if i wrong but inside system settings -> interface style i should have oxygen style available ?
[07:15] <soee> i can't run systemsettings
[07:15] <soee> got this message in terminal: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[07:15] <soee> any idea what can be wrong ?
[07:21] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1119097] plasmoidviewer binary missing from package @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119097 (by juancarlospaco)
[07:23] <shadeslayer> mmm
[07:34] <soee> what would be the command to complatly reinstall kde* stuff basicly full desktop
[07:34] <soee> as there is no oxygen style for windows, systemsettings do not work
[07:37] <soee> if i try to remove kubuntu-desktop shouldnt it remove also kde related packages ?
[08:23] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1119097] plasmoidviewer binary missing from package @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119097 (by juancarlospaco)
[08:33] <yofel_> soee: completely removing kde should work by removing libkdecore5
[08:33] <shadeslayer> why does kubotu keep echo'ing that bug
[08:35] <yofel_> soee: what release are you on?
[08:36] <shadeslayer> btw netrunner people report issues with kmahjongg
[08:36] <shadeslayer> on quantal
[08:36] <shadeslayer> any reports like that in Kubuntu?
[08:36] <soee> yofel, quantal, i had to remove .config and .kde to make oxygen them work here on my work machine
[08:36] <yofel> wth
[08:36] <soee> but i cant sun systemsettings on my user  account
[08:36] <Riddell> shadeslayer: not heard of any, what sort of issue?
[08:37] <shadeslayer> http://forums.netrunner-os.com/showthread.php?tid=736&pid=1058#pid1058
[08:37] <shadeslayer> is what I was linked to
[08:37] <shadeslayer> I'm still downloading the ISO
[08:37] <shadeslayer> and then have to upgrade @_@
[08:37] <yofel> shadeslayer: haven't heard of any issues with kmahjongg. But soee is the 2nd person I know that has oxygen issue
[08:37] <yofel> s
[08:37] <shadeslayer> I hate release days
[08:37] <shadeslayer> broken configs ftw
[08:38] <shadeslayer> http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2013-February/023921.html
[08:38] <shadeslayer> maybe that's what's causing issues?
[08:39] <yofel> fun
[08:39] <shadeslayer> Adityab: ^ Potentially cause of your bug
[08:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I /think/ it might be because something was not published and the user ran apt-get update a bit too soon
[08:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that forum doesn't mention kmahjongg
[08:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: they're installing from kubuntu-ppa/backports onto quantal presumably?
[08:48] <shadeslayer> the kubuntu-ppa/backports repo is enabled for Netrunner by default afaik
[08:51] <Riddell> yeah, so we need to be careful to double check what goes in there, netrunner users are not the sort who will take kindly to being used as guinea pigs
[08:51] <shadeslayer> true, nor will Kubuntu users
[08:51] <Riddell> but I'm not sure what can be changed, it was checked and the probably was probably just archive scew during copying
[08:51] <Riddell> the problem
[08:51] <shadeslayer> yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well
[08:52] <shadeslayer> I just need to confirm
[08:54] <smartboyhw> Hey Riddell
[08:54] <Riddell> morning smartboyhw
[08:55] <smartboyhw> Riddell, good now I will copy the calligra backport from the experimental PPA to backports PPA
[08:55] <smartboyhw> The build finished 11 min ago
[08:56] <smartboyhw> damn the amd64 build didn't start  (LOL)
[08:56] <smartboyhw> At least i386 worked
[08:56] <Riddell> smartboyhw: yeah need to wait for amd64
[08:56] <Riddell> smartboyhw: also did you install it and run it?
[08:57] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you mean in Raring or Precise ?
[08:57] <Riddell> smartboyhw: well either but you're working on precise just now
[08:59] <Riddell> powerpc is sitll holding back the universe in raring :(
[08:59] <smartboyhw> Riddell, what? Even calligra in raring was completed....
[09:00] <smartboyhw> And moved to raring-release
[09:00] <Riddell> smartboyhw: just because it compiles doesn't mean it installs and just cos it installs doesn't mean it runs
[09:00] <Riddell> that all needs tested
[09:01] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I know. Will be testing it
[09:01] <smartboyhw> Well at least installing works
[09:02] <smartboyhw> Yes it works!!!!
[09:03] <Riddell> what does?
[09:04] <smartboyhw> works and flow
[09:04] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you've got a precise install to run it on?
[09:04] <smartboyhw> Riddell, testing on raring now. Will get a precise install to test
[09:05] <Riddell> smartboyhw: oh cools
[09:05] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you can install to a chroot and run it from there with a little magic
[09:05] <Riddell> you can also run it from an ec2 over vnc
[09:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, at the same time I could test a 12.04.2 live image!
[09:06] <Riddell> oh yes you could
[09:06] <Riddell> that would be most handy
[09:06] <smartboyhw> That's my plan
[09:17] <smartboyhw> signing off:P
[09:26] <Riddell> welcome back smartboyhw :)
[09:26] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yeah. Sorry I had to reboot. Now resuming the download of the precise imag
[09:26] <smartboyhw> *image
[09:27] <smartboyhw> Phew, the 4-day calligra work is going to an end:P
[09:27] <Riddell> until their next release :)
[09:28] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yeah (LOL0(
[09:30] <smartboyhw> Phew it flew fast , 93% download
[09:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: get the powerpc build rescored
[09:31] <shadeslayer> or maybe you can rescore it yourself?
[09:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I don't think I can do that
[09:31] <Riddell> I'm not elite enough
[09:31] <shadeslayer> :D
[09:31] <shadeslayer> #launchpad then
[09:32] <shadeslayer> but
[09:32] <shadeslayer> hm sec
[09:32] <shadeslayer> 1.268 is done
[09:32] <shadeslayer> for powerpc as well
[09:32] <Riddell> what is 1.268?
[09:33] <shadeslayer> wasn't kubuntu-meta holding back everything?
[09:33] <shadeslayer> and now it's kde-workspace
[09:34] <Riddell> yeah I fixed kubuntu-meta
[09:34] <Riddell> and I fixed kde-workspace except it's still held back on powerpc
[09:34] <shadeslayer> right
[09:34] <Riddell> but there's a few more that are waiting for rebuilds on !powerpc
[09:36] <Riddell> hmm there's a new calligra-transitional from debian that needs investigated
[09:37] <smartboyhw> calligra-transitional!?
[09:39] <Riddell> yeah
[09:39] <Riddell> a bunch of dummy packages
[09:39] <Riddell> need to work out if we already have those or what
[09:41] <smartboyhw> Riddell, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra-transitional/+index
[09:42] <Riddell> yes, that's the one
[09:42] <Riddell> it should probably just be deleted
[09:42] <shadeslayer> hmm
[09:42] <shadeslayer> from what I recall
[09:42] <shadeslayer> we have koffice transitional packages in calligra itself
[09:43] <shadeslayer> or atleast we had them
[09:43] <shadeslayer> or sth
[09:43] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-veromix needs removal and blacklisting as well
[09:43] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I think we *had( them
[09:43] <smartboyhw> It doesn't exist now
[09:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can you file a bug for that and ping me to process?
[09:43] <shadeslayer> according to apachelogger, it's useless, and takes up memory and does not work on raring
[09:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: for Veromix?
[09:44] <shadeslayer> or for Calligra?
[09:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: plasma-widget-veromix
[09:44] <shadeslayer> roger
[09:45] <shadeslayer> oh wait
[09:45] <shadeslayer> there's a 0.18.3
[09:45] <shadeslayer> maybe that works
[09:45] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, want me to package?
[09:46] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: check if it can be sync'd ( seems likely ) and then check if it works in raring
[09:46] <shadeslayer> with python3
[09:46] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, good
[09:47] <shadeslayer> seems like it might just work with Python 3
[09:48] <smartboyhw> yeah
[09:49] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, actually it IS synced already
[09:49] <shadeslayer> errr
[09:49] <shadeslayer> oh right
[09:49] <shadeslayer> wrong pacakge
[09:49] <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/veromix
[09:50] <shadeslayer> it's called veromix
[09:50] <shadeslayer> right
[09:50] <shadeslayer> doesn't work though
[09:53] <shadeslayer> wot
[09:53] <shadeslayer> libnepomukquery-perl_4.10.0-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb: deb contents timestamp check failed: E:read, still have 1297 to read but none left
[09:54] <Riddell> mm, that doesn't sound good
[09:58] <shadeslayer> okay, kmajhong-data is problematic
[09:58] <shadeslayer> super hard to copy this error over VNC
[09:59] <shadeslayer> grrr
[09:59] <Riddell> launch a brower in the vnc session and pastebin it?
[10:00] <shadeslayer> yeah
[10:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kdegames-mahjongg-data ?
[10:03] <shadeslayer> no, just kmahjongg-data
[10:04] <Riddell> N: Unable to locate package kmahjongg-data
[10:04] <lordievader> Is the job of a Kubuntu Tester to find bugs on unreleased versions of Kubuntu, or is there more to the job?
[10:04] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/667298/
[10:05] <shadeslayer> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kmahjongg-data_4%3a4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):
[10:05] <shadeslayer>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/kmahjongg/layouts/Vi.desktop', which is also in package kmahjongg 4:4.9.3-0ubuntu0.1
[10:05] <shadeslayer> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[10:05] <shadeslayer> !info kmahjongg-data quantal
[10:05] <shadeslayer> O_O
[10:05] <Riddell> hum, so new in 4.10
[10:05] <Riddell> and overlapping files
[10:05] <Riddell> damn, why didn't we spot this?
[10:06] <shadeslayer> probably because none of us had kmajhongg installed?
[10:07] <Riddell> I did test upgrades of kde-full but maybe not on quantal or something
[10:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are you fixing it or should I?
[10:11] <shadeslayer> or maybe one of our new ninjas ;)
[10:13] <Riddell> I'm still diagnosing it and I need to have a shower cos I can't fix packages while smelly
[10:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: so go ahead else I'll get it when I'm clean
[10:18] <jussi> Riddell: youll never be as clean as when you went to sauna :D
[10:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: seems like kmajhongg-data just needs a breaks/replaces on kmajhongg
[10:26] <jussi> shadeslayer: got time for a quick PM?
[10:27] <shadeslayer> sure
[10:29] <apachelogger> what a busy day :@
[10:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: user-manager will have to wait till tomorrow it appears
[10:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sure
[10:30] <shadeslayer> well .. not sure when the file got moved
[10:30] <shadeslayer> so I guess it'll have to be versioned as 4.10-0ubuntu1
[10:39] <jussi> kubotu: shadeslayer ++
[10:39] <shadeslayer> :D
[10:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep I confirm that's an issue, are you onto it or shall I look at it?
[10:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: almost done actually, feel free to fix for Quantal/Precise
[10:48] <shadeslayer> I'm uploading for raring
[10:48] <Riddell> jussi: there's nothing like standing naked in a nordic forest to get you clean
[10:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: just a replace/breaks old kmahjongg ?
[10:48] <shadeslayer> yep
[10:48] <Riddell> ok I'll do the backports
[10:48] <jussi> Riddell: :D its even better when you can go jump in the snow for a bit...
[10:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/667322/
[10:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm
[10:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: 4:4.10-0ubuntu2 should be 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu2 no?
[10:50] <shadeslayer> @_@
[10:50] <shadeslayer> dat 0
[10:50] <shadeslayer> will fix
[10:50]  * Riddell learns a new indian swear word
[10:51] <shadeslayer> :P
[10:51] <shadeslayer> clearly I've not had enough coffee
[10:51] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/667328/
[10:51] <shadeslayer> better?
[10:53] <shadeslayer> maybe also change that ubuntu3
[10:54] <Riddell> I would yes
[10:55] <shadeslayer> yeah, done, and wth, kmahjongg already built on amd64 and i386
[10:55] <shadeslayer> that was fast
[11:08] <Riddell> uploaded to precise and quantal
[11:08] <shadeslayer> thx :)
[11:12]  * shadeslayer is sad that our upgrade process still sucks
[11:13]  * shadeslayer needs to write a script that automagically tests upgrades
[11:13] <shadeslayer> automate _ALL_ the things
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:15] <lordievader> There seems to be bug with the Desktop Effects Settings utility in 13.04, if I want to report a bug should this be to the systemsetting package or the kwin package?
[11:18] <Riddell> hi lordievader
[11:18] <Riddell> lordievader: yeah that's kwin
[11:18] <Riddell> lordievader: you asked about testing too?
[11:18] <mgraesslin> no it's not - we don't have bugs
[11:18] <lordievader> Riddell: Thank you.
[11:18] <Riddell> lordievader: ok it it's kwin it's your imagination :)
[11:19] <mgraesslin> :-D
[11:19] <Riddell> lordievader: we need testers for new candidate kubuntu release images, but also for new and updated packages
[11:20] <Riddell> lordievader: want to be added to the !testers call?
[11:20] <yofel> kde bug 314662
[11:20] <Riddell> lordievader: we'll have double image testing next week, alpha 2 and 12.04.2
[11:20] <lordievader> Riddell: Yes, sounds nice.
[11:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: this upgrade has been fun
[11:20] <Riddell> !testers
[11:20] <yofel> shadeslayer: "upgrade" ?
[11:20] <shadeslayer> hehe
[11:20] <Riddell> ubottu: no testers is help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan
[11:21] <Riddell> ubottu: no testers is help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader
[11:21] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[11:21] <yofel> :D
[11:21] <lordievader> The kwin bug I seem to have is that keyboard shortcuts made in the Desktop Effects settings are not saved.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> ok ,ok  :)
[11:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: clearly ubottu is rebelling
[11:21] <BluesKaj> enoufg
[11:21] <Riddell> shadeslayer: he needs to be told of his place
[11:21] <soee> Riddell, 13.04 images ?
[11:22] <Riddell> soee: not yet but next week
[11:22] <Riddell> alpha 2
[11:22] <soee> so you calling testers for? :)
[11:23] <BluesKaj> oxygen style isn't missing here , just upgraded
[11:24] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: please comment on kde bug 314662
[11:29] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1119312] Desktop Effects keyboard shortcuts not saved @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119312 (by lordievader)
[11:30] <Riddell> soee: just to add lordievader to the call for now
[11:31] <BluesKaj> interrupted my morning coffee
[11:31] <Riddell> oh now now this is no welcome to give to lordievader
[11:31] <BluesKaj> ok ,reported my findings at  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314662
[11:32] <jussi> !testers | Riddell
[11:32] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: did you upgrade from 4.9.5 ?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> no shadeslayer , not directly , upgraded from 4.9.98
[11:33] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: you might want to mention that :)
[11:33] <Riddell> jussi: now you disturbed everyone's morning coffee
[11:33] <shadeslayer> because there seem to be issues when upgrading from 4.9.5 to 4.10
[11:33] <BluesKaj> too late already posted it
[11:34] <jussi> Riddell: oh well, I probably should have sent it to your PM
[11:34] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: post another comment? :P
[11:37] <lordievader> Have to say the new default wallpaper looks really sweet!
[11:39] <Riddell> hey, there's your test images!
[11:39] <Riddell> !testers
[11:39] <soee> ah wallpaper, i would like to see nice looking plymounth or whatever it is called before i die :)
[11:42] <BluesKaj> ok posted my experience with upgrading to 4.10
[11:42] <jussi> soee: lol, never happens
[11:42] <BluesKaj> altho i have a differnt bug
[11:43] <shadeslayer> make one
[11:43] <Riddell> BluesKaj: posted where?
[11:43] <BluesKaj> haven't posted it yet , Riddell ..been trying to solve it
[11:44] <jussi> Riddell:  it might be nice to use something like "!testers | please test XXXXXXX" removing the need to either read back or ask what needs testing
[11:45] <BluesKaj> user management crashes with the orphaned modules error/popup dialog
[11:45] <Riddell> !testers | please test Precise 12.04.2 images
[11:45] <Riddell> I don't think anyone will be having their morning coffee today
[11:45] <BluesKaj> well , I'm at home so , definitely am
[11:45] <jussi> Riddell: I would hope most of them have had it... or if not, there is a scene similar to the coffee scenes in "top gun" :P
[11:46] <soee> it ias already 12.45 how can i think about morning coffee ;)  anyway i dont drink coffee
[11:47] <BluesKaj> it's 6;47 AM , here , I shoul d go back to bed
[11:48] <lordievader> Maybe a stupid question, but where can I get the Precise 12.04.2 image?
[11:49] <Riddell> lordievader: iso.qa.ubuntu.com should have the links
[11:49] <Riddell> lordievader: and don't worry about asking stupid questions, they're usually not stupid
[11:49] <lordievader> Riddell: Thank you :)
[11:50] <lordievader> Riddell: The idea is to test the live cd right? Or also an install of the live-cd?
[11:51] <Riddell> lordievader: yep live and install
[11:51] <Riddell> various ways of installing too
[11:51] <Riddell> the test cases should be listed on iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <lordievader> Riddell: Ah yes, I saw after I asked you.
[11:52] <yofel> hm, talking about userconfig
[11:53] <yofel> ScottK: I get http://paste.kde.org/667400 even with python 3.3 in raring. PyKDE bug?
[11:54] <yofel> the broken part is the return value of ki18n
[11:54] <yofel> or it's ki18n crashing. As "aboutdata.addAuthor(ki18n("Sebastian Kügler".encode('UTF-8')), ki18n("Developer"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"http://vizZzion.org")" works fine
[11:56] <Riddell> you'd have thought python 3 would put an end to that nonsense
[11:57] <yofel> well. As long as you use python string it works fine. But removing the ki18n call gives this: http://paste.kde.org/667406
[11:58] <yofel> so this is really mostly pykde's fault
[11:59] <BluesKaj> ok , my bug has already been reported 67 times , no need for further duplication . bug #247830
[12:00] <yofel> kde bug 247830
[12:00] <yofel> hm. I don't get a crash. But that the module doesn't work is known
[12:01] <yofel> if someone wants to try the quick-and-dirty py3 port of userconfig it's here: lp:~yofel/+junk/userconfig-kde4-python3
[12:02] <yofel> it doesn't quite work though
[12:04] <BluesKaj> yofel, my situation has the use rmanagement dialog error about orphaned  KCM  modules and userconfig/userconfig.py
[12:05] <yofel> BluesKaj: yeah, that's about what you should see
[12:05] <yofel> it's trying to call the python3 version of userconfig - which doesn't exist
[12:05] <BluesKaj> so no point in reporting it further
[12:07] <yofel> BluesKaj: what should work is simply running "kdesudo python /usr/share/kde4/apps/userconfig/userconfig.py" in krunner. Ignore the crash on exit. (I hope that doesn't affect the functionality)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> yofel, no difference , same error on user management
[12:10] <yofel> hm
[12:11] <BluesKaj> not that i need it atm , guess i could always add a user or group in the terminal
[12:17] <BluesKaj> actually I'm quite happy with the way 13.04 is running so far
[12:28] <yofel> yay
[12:28] <yofel> after removing QVariant's lp:~yofel/+junk/userconfig-kde4-python3 is kinda usable
[12:38] <yofel> well, not really, but it starts at least
[12:40] <Guest14715> Plasmate 1.0-beta is out. Will this be packaged for Kubuntu Backports/beta?
[12:40] <yofel> beta sounds reasonable
[12:41] <Guest14715> I asked about a plasmate package some weeks ago and was told as long as there is no official release it would not be packaged. W00t now it finally happened :-)
[12:42] <Guest14715> http://terietor.gr/2013/02/08/plasmate-1-0-beta1-is-out/
[12:42] <shadeslayer> yes
[12:42] <Riddell> Guest14715: great
[12:42] <shadeslayer> indeed
[12:42] <Riddell> Guest14715: want to learn packaging? :)
[12:43] <Guest14715> Riddell: Thanks, but no.  Seriously, I cant thank you enough for this awesomeness that is gwenview
[13:10] <agateau> jussi: hey, thanks :)
[13:11] <jussi> agateau: I use it lots :)
[13:11] <jussi> agateau: one thing that would be awesome, is if someone integrated gwenview and skanlite together
[13:11] <agateau> jussi: there is a kipi plugin for skanlite, though I don't use it
[13:12] <jussi> oh? wow, Ill have to try it
[13:13] <smartboyhw> Riddell, OK....
[13:13] <smartboyhw> Will download an 12.04.2 amd64 ISO
[13:17] <smartboyhw> Just found something interesting: The release date for Ubuntu 12.04.2 is on valentine's day!!!?!?!?
[13:20] <Riddell> so we have to make it something people will love
[13:20] <smartboyhw> lol
[13:22] <jussi> hehe
[13:23] <jussi> agateau: where would one find that plugin? seems Im not having any on this install...
[13:23] <agateau> you need the kipi-plugins package
[13:23] <agateau> then it should be in "plugins > import"
[13:24] <jussi> installing now, thanks
[13:25] <smartboyhw> Riddell, does that mean we have to test 13.04 Alpha 1 and 12.04.2 LTS at the same period?
[13:25] <Riddell> smartboyhw: yep
[13:25] <smartboyhw> Grrrr
[13:28] <jussi> agateau: looks great, thanks!
[14:01] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I am testing the amd64 image
[14:01] <Riddell> smartboyhw: groovy
[14:01] <smartboyhw> Riddell, groovy?
[14:01] <Riddell> very
[14:01] <smartboyhw> It might be a good chance to finally test if calligra works on Precise
[14:01] <Riddell> yeah good idea
[14:02] <lordievader> Riddell: I'm testing the 12.04.2 amd64 image too, saw a bug, checking now if I can reproduce it.
[14:06] <lordievader> Yes, reproduced. The installer crashed on the manual partitioning if the installer is started from the "Try Kubuntu" option.
[14:07] <shadeslayer> backtrace plz
[14:08] <Riddell> erk
[14:08] <Riddell> lordievader: file a bug please and attach /var/log/syslog and /var/log/installer/*
[14:09] <lordievader> Riddell: Will do.
[14:10] <lordievader> Riddell: On bugs.kde.org or on launchpad?
[14:11] <smartboyhw> lordievader, launchpad
[14:11] <Riddell> lordievader: on launchpad against ubiquity
[14:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: <skfin> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu says "Download the Kubuntu installer to create your own installation CD."
[14:18] <skfin> Oh :)
[14:19] <shadeslayer> oh you're here as well :D
[14:19] <Riddell> sorry am about to run off for the afternoon
[14:20] <skfin> For few years now :P
[14:20] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[14:20] <smartboyhw> :D
[14:20] <shadeslayer> I've never seen you say a single sentence here :P
[14:20] <skfin> Lol
[14:21] <jussi> silent finnish type... :P
[14:22]  * jussi huigs skfin
[14:22] <shadeslayer> the most dangerous type
[14:22] <skfin> perhaps
[14:23]  * skfin doesn't know about "huiging" but hugs jussi
[14:23] <shadeslayer> jussi: <d_ed> 0.6 isn't that far away
 end of March
[14:23] <jussi> pesh
[14:23] <jussi> thats ages :P?
[14:24] <shadeslayer> you clearly live in an alternate universe
[14:25] <jussi> why yes, yes I do! :P
[14:57] <yofel> hm, the last qt4 upload has multiarch issues it seems
[15:02] <yofel> ah no, i386 is just completely lagging behind
[15:03] <yofel> s/lagging behind/stuck in NEW/
[15:03] <kubotu> yofel meant: "ah no, i386 is just completely stuck in NEW"
[15:48] <afiestas> user-manager should be ready to be packaged
[15:48] <afiestas> still it does not create/remove users but edit works well :)
[15:48] <afiestas> create/delete should come shortly
[15:48] <shadeslayer> afiestas: apachelogger packaged it
[15:48] <shadeslayer> but forgot to push it
[15:48] <shadeslayer> he said he'll do it tomorrow
[15:49] <afiestas> shadeslayer: it is in kde:user-manager now
[15:49] <shadeslayer> afiestas: awesome
[15:49] <shadeslayer> the import will need to be fixed though
[15:56] <shadeslayer> huzzah, more stuff I can upload
[16:02] <tazz> lol for a second their i read raring as raging.
[16:02] <tazz>  oxygen-fonts to kubuntu is raging
[16:05] <smartboyhw> LOL
[16:09] <shadeslayer> turns out you also read in as is
[16:32] <Evpok> Since I updated to raring Wednesday, my touchpad is behaving as per the default config instead f my own and  the "Touchpad" kcm module won't load. Anyone else has this kind of issues?
[16:32] <shadeslayer> synaptiks is broken
[16:33] <shadeslayer> Evpok: you want to run synaptiks from krunner or a terminal
[16:33] <shadeslayer> and then keep it running
[16:33] <shadeslayer> let me rephrase part of that sentence, the synaptiks kcm accessed via systemsettings is broken
[16:34] <Evpok> Oh, sweet, thanks you
[16:39] <Evpok> something else: the keyboard layout loading is behaving strangely. I use a custom /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr. It used to be loaded a startup before raring. Now at startup, the default fr symbol file is used instead. When I `setxkbmap fr -variant oss`, my custom file comes back, but it blocks the keyboard layout applet in the system tray.
[16:41] <shadeslayer> hmm ... possibly #ubuntu-x would know more
[16:46] <Evpok> shadeslayer: Okay, thanks, I'll ask there. I wondered if it could be related to xcb
[16:46] <shadeslayer> no idea :)
[16:48] <seaLne> is kubuntu.org website known to be "Site off-line"?
[16:49] <shadeslayer> works for me
[16:49] <seaLne> working again now
[16:50] <seaLne> wonder if someone was just doing drupal admin stuff
[20:33] <ovidiu-florin> hello world, in the latest mail on the kubuntu-deve mail list Testers are required for 12.04.2 , I went to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/254/builds and started downloading Kubuntu Desktop i386. What exactly should I test? I want to help.
[20:34] <ovidiu-florin> this page oppened up http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/254/builds/37154/testcases I logged in
[20:34] <ovidiu-florin> I'll try to install this in Virtual Box
[20:34] <ovidiu-florin> since I don't have any spare hardware at hand
[20:34] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: Each of those has a test case/procedure that goes with it.  That's what we need tested.
[20:34] <ScottK> Virtual box testing is fine.
[20:35] <ScottK> Thanks for showing up to help.
[20:35] <ovidiu-florin> I've been using Kubuntu for quite a while now..
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> at leas I could help by testing new stuff :D
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> I went for the install (entire disk), It seems to work (not finished yet) only a bit slow, probabily due to the low specs I gave to the VM
[20:53] <ovidiu-florin> is this website done using drupal?
[20:53] <ovidiu-florin> it look's like it is
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> what are the minimum requirements for Kubuntu 12.04?
[21:07] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^?
[21:08] <ScottK> It will run in 1GB of ram, but slowly.  I'm not sure what the actual minimum is.
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> finished the installation, rebooting, now
[21:13] <ovidiu-florin> there's a problem on http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopWhole on action 9 step 2. the arrows exist only in ubuntu, not in kubuntu
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> and it should be "sides" instead of "side"
[21:14] <afiestas> Anybody with webcam and Quantal can execute the following command: http://paste.kde.org/  ?
[21:14] <afiestas> if it works (you are able to see something) restart it a few times
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> afiestas: blank link
[21:15] <ovidiu-florin> afiestas: submit your paste, then send the url
[21:15] <afiestas> ups
[21:15] <afiestas> http://paste.kde.org/667832/
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> ScottK: the installation has finished, everything is ok. Only one quoestion: I did not boot into live cd and then install, I started the installation directly. Is that an issue?
[21:17] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: No.  There's only one test case that requires live install.
[21:17] <ScottK> Figure out which of the test cases matches the way you installed it and then verify the system works.
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> I follwed the "Installation (entire disk)" but I haven't started exactly as mentioned in http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopWhole
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> I did not boot into a live session
[21:20] <ovidiu-florin> should I reinstall and do it like that?
[21:22] <ovidiu-florin> ScottK: ^
[21:23] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: There is a separate test case for running the live session.  What I would do is run the live session test and then take credit for both.  I don't think you need to redo that one.
[21:26] <ovidiu-florin> ScottK: There is only one entire disk case. in the test case information of that case it specifies that the installation must be started from the live session (this is tipical in Ubuntu from what I remember, not in Kubuntu). I did not boot into the live session and then started the install. I started the install directly. is this an issue? can I submit my report like this?
[21:27] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: As long as you also make sure the live session works, I think it's fine.
[21:27] <ovidiu-florin> ScottK: in that case I'll redo the install
[21:28] <ScottK> Up to you, but I think it's overkill.
[21:28] <ScottK> Better you spend the time on one of the other test cases, IMO.  Maybe after they are all done, come back to that one.
[21:28] <ovidiu-florin> well this one worked
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> I'll test the live disk now and see idf the installer starts
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> but will not perform the reinstall
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> and then continue testing the live session
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> I gave it more RAM, for better performance
[21:33] <ovidiu-florin> ScottK: Hardware profile?
[21:34] <ScottK> I usually leave that blank.
[21:34] <ScottK> It's only relevant if you find some hardware specific bug.
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> aha, ok
[21:35] <ovidiu-florin> yeeeeey, I did something usefull today :D
[21:36] <ScottK> ISO testing is something we definitely need more help with, so it is much appreciated.
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> the live session does not heve the folder widget by default ?
[21:37] <ovidiu-florin> what changed?
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> ScottK: the autoresize option does not exist
[21:39] <ScottK> What options do you have?
[21:39] <ovidiu-florin> full disk and manual
[21:39] <ovidiu-florin> is that because there is no free space?
[21:40] <ScottK> Possibly.
[21:40] <ovidiu-florin> the previous installation was full disk
[21:40] <ovidiu-florin> is this a bug?
[21:40] <ovidiu-florin> or a feature?
[21:40] <ScottK> How much hd space did you allow for the vm?
[21:40] <ovidiu-florin> 8GB
[21:41] <ovidiu-florin> and the Kubuntu installer says that the HDD has 8.6GB
[21:41] <ScottK> That should be enough for it to show up.
[21:41] <ScottK> You didn't do full disk encryption did you?
[21:41] <ovidiu-florin> is there such an option in the 12.04 installer?
[21:42] <ovidiu-florin> I thought that was introduced onli in 12.10
[21:42] <ovidiu-florin> only*
[21:48] <ovidiu-florin> where can I search through the kubuntu bugs?
[21:51] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: You're right.  That was in 12.10.
[21:51] <ovidiu-florin> I need to specify a bug number with this issue
[21:51] <ovidiu-florin> The resize option is not available. On the 8GB Virtual HDD there is an Kubuntu 12.04 installed with a 1.1GB swap partition at the end and the rest a 7.5GB ext4 partition.
[21:52] <ScottK> Ah.
[21:52] <ScottK> The 7.5 may not be quite enough.
[21:52] <ScottK> Can you make it a 10GB HD and try again?  I think the installer wants 4.
[21:53] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[21:53] <ScottK> Kubuntu bugs on in Launchpad the same a Ubuntu ones.
[21:53] <ovidiu-florin> but it uses a different installer
[22:00] <ScottK> No.
[22:01] <ScottK> Different frontend, but all the non-U/I parts are the same.
[22:01] <ovidiu-florin> this is going to take longer than expected, I have to go now.
[22:01] <ovidiu-florin> thank you ScottK
[22:01] <ScottK> See you later.
[22:01] <ScottK> Thanks for testing.