[12:24] <Tonio_> mhb: is there a launchpad bug according to kdesktop ?
[12:25] <mhb> Tonio_: indeed, bug 78318
[12:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 78318 in kdebase "Screensaver unlock dialog ignores translation" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78318
[12:26] <Tonio_> mhb: okay nice
[12:27] <Tonio_> mhb: you can put fix-released, the packages are now built
[12:27] <mhb> Tonio_: great, thanks again
[12:28] <Tonio_> mhb: you're welcome :)
[01:05] <manchicken> MASSIVE amounts of updates since I last logged on.
[01:06] <allee> hmm, for digikam any prefered kubuntu e-mail address to use in maintainer instead of Ubuntu Core Developers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[01:06] <Tonio_> allee: put yours :)
[01:06] <allee> Tonio_: okay
[01:07] <allee> Tonio_: but I really dislike being forced to use @ubuntu.com and not @kubuntu.org ;)
[01:08] <Tonio_> allee: doesn't manage kubuntu.org ?
[01:08] <allee> However, if a particular package deserves a more specific contact,
[01:08] <allee> then it is encouraged to use a personal or team mailing list contact
[01:08] <allee> (however, it must be an @ubuntu.com address).
[01:09] <allee> ^^ so I assume yes I am
[01:09] <Tonio_> hehe, yes you are :)
[01:10] <ajmitch> allee: kubuntu.org should work fine
[01:10] <Tonio_> manchicken: yup lots of updates today...
[01:10] <Tonio_> allee: I fixed kdesktop translations :)
[01:10] <Tonio_> hi ajmitch
[01:10] <ajmitch> allee: dpkg-source just appears to be searching for the string 'ubuntu' in the Maintainer field
[01:10] <ajmitch> hello Tonio_
[01:11] <allee> Tonio_: what was reason?
[01:11] <allee> for the missed translations
[01:11] <Tonio_> allee: riddell patched kde not to load desktops mo files all the time
[01:12] <Tonio_> allee: the patch was "if catalog name contains desktop no not load" ;)
[01:12] <Tonio_> kdesktop.mo couldn't be loaded :)
[01:12] <Tonio_> and kio.mo too
[01:12] <allee> Tonio_: heh, how did you feel after you found it? ;)
[01:13] <Tonio_> allee: HAPPY !
[01:13] <allee> :)
[01:13] <Tonio_> allee: the point is that it was really hidden, since that patch idn't touch kdesktop at all...
[01:13] <Tonio_> I found it be chance in fact, after 2 days of incomprehension :)
[01:16] <mhb> yeah it was really hidden
[01:34] <allee> Please try: digikam 0.9.1~rc1 (for main) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4430    [need libkexiv2: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4421 is in new queue]
[01:34] <allee> I've forgotten to iconv -f 8859_1 -t utf8 README.Debian.  Fixed in alioth repo so will be in digikam 0.9.0 final pkg
[01:37] <manchicken> There seems to be a problem with the new debconf.
[01:38] <manchicken> I'm guessing /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104 (thought that's just the warning).
[01:38] <Hobbsee> oh?
[01:38] <manchicken> Yeah, it pops up a dialog saying that there's an invalid nice value.
[01:38] <manchicken> I wonder if that's because it's currently upgrading.
[01:39] <manchicken> I suppose I'll try an update again in a minute and see if it's still a problem.
[01:39] <manchicken> I'm a Perler, so if I see something I'll try to triage it.
[01:40] <manchicken> Yup.  Happened again.
[01:40] <Hobbsee> ah yes, there have been bugs reported about that, iirc
[01:42] <manchicken> Is there a workaround?
[01:43] <Hobbsee> dunno, to be honest
[01:43] <Hobbsee> havent been following
[01:43] <manchicken> That's cool.
[01:43] <manchicken> Makes me wish I'd stuck with feisty sometimes ^_^
[01:44] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:44] <manchicken> Yeah, I can't use adept_updater...
[01:44] <Hobbsee> why didnt you?
[01:44] <manchicken> err, edgy
[01:44] <Hobbsee> ahh
[02:11] <yuriy> strange. bug 48500 sounds like a media:/ patch bug, but it's on dapper
[02:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 48500 in kdebase "In Kubuntu Dapper KDE 3.5.3 - device icons disappearing" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/48500
[02:22] <manchicken> apt-get upgrade works where adept isn't.
[03:18] <ryanakca> dunno if it's already done, but if not, an idea for the future: an app that transfers settings between an old and new comp
[03:26] <manchicken> Gotta get my development environment back.
[03:28] <Jucato> manchicken: why? what happened?
[03:29] <manchicken> Way out of date.
[03:30] <manchicken> I haven't touched it in a while.
[03:30] <Jucato> oh :)
[03:30] <Jucato> at least you have a dev env.. :)
[03:31] <manchicken> It's pretty easy to set up a chroot.
[03:31] <Jucato> yeah, I'll get to that part soonish... :)
[03:33] <nixternal> oi oi
[03:34] <Jucato> moin nixternal
[03:36] <yuriy> ryanacka: i thought something like that is in for ubuntu feisty
[03:36] <yuriy> ryanacka: migration assistant or something like that?
[03:36] <nixternal> man, about 2 hours ago I took about 50 D C C attemps
[03:36] <nixternal> I am guessing a bot came in, grabbed a list of names and went to town
[03:37] <nixternal> so I try contacting freenode staff and, well just like a cashier at KMart, they were about useless
[03:38] <yuriy> i'm just making typos/spelling mistakes everywhere today
[03:38] <jdong> nixternal: paper or plastic?
[03:38] <jdong> nixternal: would you like your milk in a bag?
[03:38] <jdong> nixternal: how about your orange juice?
[03:39] <jdong> OMG at Krogers I had someone ask if I wanted milk in a bag... I said yes
[03:39] <jdong> and then he asked paper or plastic
[03:39] <jdong> I just stared blankly at him
[03:39] <nixternal> Krogers people, well I will leave that one alone
[03:39] <nixternal> thank god we don't have Kroger in Chicago
[03:39] <nixternal> when I stayed in hotlanta it seemed they packed milk with either bread or eggs
[03:41] <jdong> lol
[03:41] <jdong> I've had that happen to me at meijers
[03:41] <jdong> I just replied back 'you know, you usually scramble eggs WHILE you cook them.'
[03:42] <jdong> I'm a pretty sarcastic person :P
[03:42] <nixternal> jdong: wth do you live?
[03:42] <nixternal> I love meijers, especially since KDE fixed konqi so I can shop online again :)
[03:42] <jdong> Metro Detroit....
[03:42] <jdong> at least used to :)
[03:43] <nixternal> ahh, damn you are close :)
[03:43] <jdong> now I live overlooking an egg factory.
[03:43] <jdong> in Cambridge, MA
[03:43] <nixternal> ahhh
[03:43] <nixternal> met any of the old brahman clans out there?
[03:43] <jdong> not yet... :)
[03:44] <nixternal> brahmans are super cool. they act like they are in the UK and totally are't expected, especially around Boston
[03:44] <nixternal> no pahk the cah in the fwont yahd
[03:44] <jdong> lol
[03:45] <jdong> the boston accent is getting on my nerves though :D
[03:45] <jdong> I had to ask a MIT cop the other day for directions and I had to ask the poor guy to repeat himself like 4 times
[03:45] <jdong> and he was getting impatient near the end too :)
[03:45] <nixternal> haha
[03:45] <nixternal> wth are the "r"s
[03:46] <nixternal> my best bud lives in Brokton, and I make fun of him everytime he calls
[03:46] <yuriy> hey jdong were you at ubucon?
[03:46] <jdong> yuriy: nope :(
[03:46] <jdong> nixternal: lol :)
[03:46] <yuriy> ah. are you on the loco team?
[03:46] <jdong> no...
[03:46] <nixternal> anyone near Fort Wayne Indiana?
[03:46] <yuriy> j/w
[03:47] <ryanakca> Myrtle Beach, South Carolina? (or is it NC? )
[03:47] <nixternal> I have been asked to come back and do a set of Open source and community lectures at Perdue, but school is preventing me from doing so
[03:47] <manchicken> Okay, so with pbuilder, you build, then what?  Does it then make a .deb somewhere or do you use pbuilder to install?
[03:47] <ryanakca> it makes a .deb... then dpkg -i file.deb
[03:47] <nixternal> manchicken: want to go out to Perdue in Fort Wayne and talk Freedom?
[03:47] <nixternal> pbuilder-feisty build *.dsc
[03:47] <nixternal> it will make a .deb and put it in /var/cache/pbuilder/feisty/results
[03:48] <nixternal> if you setup your pbuilders the way the wiki shows
[03:48] <manchicken> Do I then just install that .deb?
[03:48] <ryanakca> yeah
[03:48] <nixternal> manchicken: you can yes
[03:48] <nixternal> that's what I do
[03:49] <ryanakca> hmm...
[03:49] <manchicken> nixternal: How much does that cost?  When is it?
[03:49] <manchicken> I'm moving and switching jobs here soon.
[03:50] <ryanakca> anybody a Hard Drive genius here? (I have a wonderful dilemma with this brand new comp I have)
[03:50] <ryanakca> jdong: lol
[03:50] <jdong> the first thing I'm gonna do when I visit home for spring break is hop into my SUV and floor it
[03:50] <jdong> in other words, get a few tickets
[03:50] <ryanakca> jdong: auto kaput ?
[03:50] <ryanakca> lol
[03:50] <ryanakca> jdong: sounds fun...
[03:51] <nixternal> manchicken: you decide when it is, and they will pay for your travel and 1 night if you would like
[03:51] <jdong> but apparently daddy wrecked my  5.7L grand cherokee :(
[03:51] <nixternal> Mon-Thu is best
[03:51] <jdong> spun out on snowy highway
[03:51] <jdong> "my" being used in the greedy possessive case.
[03:52] <ryanakca> jdong: ouch... lol
[03:52] <manchicken> nixternal: This mon-thu?
[03:52] <jdong> on the bright side now my insurance company is replacing the chasis! yay!
[03:53] <ryanakca> yay!
[03:56] <nixternal> manchicken: no, next week, 2 weeks, next month
[03:56] <nixternal> whenever you could do it
[03:57] <manchicken> Who is "they?"
[03:57] <nixternal> this professor is wanting an Ubuntu community type talk, "both on its own, and as an example of the creation of an open source community" quoting the professor
[03:57] <manchicken> And would "they" cover my wife as well?
[03:57] <nixternal> Perdue University
[03:57] <nixternal> manchicken: probably not
[03:59] <manchicken> I just switched jobs, I'll have to see if I can work it in.
[04:00] <manchicken> If they wanted to fly/whatever me out on Sunday, talk Monday, fly/whatever home that evening, I could do April 16th.
[04:01] <nixternal> hey, will someone tell the GNOME people that Freespire and Linspire will ship with KDE like they have since day 1 :)
[04:02] <manchicken> nixternal: They'll have to give a happy-fun disclaimer if I talk though.
[04:03] <manchicken> I think my views on Free software are a bit more radical than Canonical and Ubuntu in general.
[04:03] <manchicken> ^_^
[04:03] <Jucato> they definitely are :)
[04:04] <Jucato> aw... and I just got these clothes washed
[04:04] <manchicken> Sucks to be you.
[04:04] <Jucato> :D
[04:04] <manchicken> Though I'm a hypocrite like everybody else.  heh
[04:05] <Gerald> hey
[04:05] <manchicken> straw
[06:20] <fearl> Hello, I was directed here from #kubuntu ... where are kcontrol modules listing specs located? I have two GTK Styles and Fonts entries, I'd like to remove one....
[06:20] <fearl> I installed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt by mistake, and purged it, but its entry isn't gone
[09:47] <_StefanS_> mornings
[09:51] <Jucato> hi _StefanS_
[09:51] <Jucato> I've been meaning to ask you something, just forgot what...
[09:55] <_StefanS_> hey
[09:56] <_StefanS_> Jucato: you will eventually get your mind in gear I think
[09:56] <Jucato> eventually... I've been trying to for a week now :D
[10:48] <lucascle> Hi guys!
[10:49] <Tonio_> hi lucascle
[10:49] <lucascle> On your wiki page you said, you needed some programmers for various utilities. Could anybody specify some possibilities?
[10:56] <lucascle> hey?
[10:57] <lucascle> I would like to help in programming, but what type of programms does kubuntu need?
[10:59] <Riddell> lucascle: do you know python or c++?
[10:59] <lucascle> c++
[11:00] <Riddell> there's actually less stuff to do in c++
[11:00] <lucascle> and in phyton?
[11:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: updated kdenetwork for kopete variant activation
[11:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: currently upgrading kds
[11:01] <Tonio_> lucascle: I would suggest a kobby !
[11:01] <Tonio_> oups no not gobby.....
[11:01] <GNUro> Hello!
[11:01] <Tonio_> hi GNUro
[11:02] <Tonio_> Riddell: what is the gnome tool to install deb packages ?
[11:02] <Riddell> in python we havn't found anyone to do the qt port of onboard the on screen keyboard
[11:02] <Riddell> Tonio_: gdebi
[11:02] <GNUro> Hello Tonio_ :)
[11:02] <Tonio_> kdebi would be nice too ;)
[11:02] <Riddell> it's python too, would be cool to have a kde version, but please lets not call it kdebi
[11:02] <Tonio_> Riddell: aren't there apps like this already ?
[11:02] <Riddell> Tonio_: like what?
[11:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: yeah that was just to demonstrate ;)
[11:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: I've seen this already let me find...
[11:04] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=39416
[11:04] <Tonio_> klavier :)
[11:04] <Tonio_> clavier = french = keyboard
[11:04] <Tonio_> Riddell: UI can be improved, but the base is there :)
[11:05] <Riddell> you could say the same about onboard :)
[11:05] <Riddell> needs packaging but
[11:05] <Tonio_> Riddell: interested in a package ?
[11:06] <Riddell> sure
[11:06] <Tonio_> Riddell: will do in a moment, uploading kds first ;)
[11:06] <Tonio_> Riddell: we should patch the "windows" key ;)
[11:06] <Tonio_> that's ugly
[11:07] <Riddell> make it a kubuntu key
[11:07] <Tonio_> Riddell: sure
[11:08] <lucascle> so, what other applications are there?
[11:09] <lucascle> todo?
[11:12] <lucascle> btw: what is the launchpad name of kubuntu?
[11:14] <Tonio_> lucascle: pykde frontend for gdebi
[11:14] <lucascle> ok, i'll think over it.
[11:14] <lucascle> gdebi is in the package sources?
[11:15] <Tonio_> lucascle: sure
[11:15] <Tonio_> lucascle: it is an app to install .deb file manually with dependancies etc...
[11:15] <Riddell> there's no launchpad name for kubuntu, it's just the same as ubuntu
[11:17] <lucascle> ok I'll overwork that. @tonio_: I know gdebi.
[11:18] <Tonio_> lucascle: okay :)
[11:18] <lucascle> btw: SHould i do that for feisty or for edgy?
[11:19] <Riddell> lucascle: it can only be done for feisty, konsole doesn't have the necessary patches in edgy
[11:19] <lucascle> okay, then just for feisty
[11:19] <Riddell> the source is at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+branch/gdebi/ubuntu
[11:20] <lucascle> thaks!
[11:20] <Riddell> bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/gdebi/ubuntu
[11:24] <lucascle> bye!
[12:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: good news :) would be nice to have gdebi for kde :)
[12:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: just finished packaging klavier fyi
[12:46] <Riddell> Tonio_: throw it up on revu?
[12:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: testing the build first :)
[12:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll post you the revu URL when done
[01:17] <Riddell> highvoltage: it actually would be possible to get it into universe before the freeze, it's not hard to branch the seeds and make a new meta-package
[01:18] <highvoltage> Riddell: great!
[01:18] <Riddell> highvoltage: have you looked at the seeds before?
[01:19] <highvoltage> Riddell: not at the Kubuntu seeds, only at the Xubuntu and Edubuntu seeds so far
[01:19] <Riddell> highvoltage: I'd recommend doing a bzr branch on the edubuntu seed and taking out all the gnome stuff and replacing with kde
[01:20] <Riddell> then push to launchpad under the ubuntu-dev user
[01:20] <highvoltage> Riddell: ok, that sounds good, I'll make a note of it and take that approach.
[01:20] <highvoltage> ubuntu-dev user? would I have access to that?
[01:20] <Riddell> highvoltage: are you a MOTU?
[01:21] <highvoltage> Riddell: no, but it's probably time I go through the MOTU prosess, I've been too busy until recently and lately there's more and more stuff I want to get in
[01:22] <Riddell> well just push it as your user then
[01:22] <highvoltage> Riddell: I'm going to get started on this during the weekend, I'll ping this channel if I get stuck with kde-specific stuff. Are you usually around during weekends too?
[01:23] <Riddell> yes, I should be
[01:23] <highvoltage> cool, I have some people hovering around my desk asking for stuff, will talk about it again this weekend
[01:23] <highvoltage> Riddell: also, are you going to debconf this year?
[01:24] <Riddell> highvoltage: I'll be around
[02:41] <Tonio_> Riddell: kla
[02:41] <Tonio_> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4433
[02:41] <Tonio_> sorry ;)
[02:41] <Tonio_> Riddell: no kubuntu icon since it uses a kde icon by default in fact
[03:01] <manchicken> _StefanS_: You have that TT #?  I think your message washed up with the spam.
[03:01] <_StefanS_> manchicken: yes, two secs..
[03:01] <_StefanS_> CC916166515DK
[03:01] <_StefanS_> www.pannordic.com
[03:02] <manchicken> Danke.
[03:02] <_StefanS_> manchicken: I aint german ;) - I think it will be shipped with your regular post - not ups or anything the like
[03:02] <manchicken> _StefanS_: Sorry, but that's as close as I'll ever get to most of the native languages in Europe.
[03:02] <manchicken> So many languages.
[03:03] <_StefanS_> manchicken: is that FedEx ? - or is that privately held ?
[03:03] <_StefanS_> manchicken: 'Tak' means thanks :)
[03:03] <manchicken> Ah.
[03:03] <manchicken> Regular Post would be the "United States Postal Service."
[03:03] <manchicken> Ironically enough that's technically a private company.
[03:04] <manchicken> With more government subsidy than you can shake a stick at.
[03:04] <sebas> http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/k.png This is surely a little bit Magritte-style
[03:05] <manchicken> Okay, time to go sit in an 8 hour meeting.  So much meeting... so little beer.
[03:05] <manchicken> Later all.
[03:06] <manchicken> OOH!  Something fixed the logout screen.  Very nice.
[04:05] <Riddell> elcuco_: the kdesktop i18n bug should be fixed now
[04:05] <elcuco> stupid network on my stupid college....
[04:05] <Riddell> how random, someone just send me a 6MB e-mail thanking me for ubuntu and attaching this tune http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/sinhala-sri-lanka.mp3
[04:06] <elcuco> Riddell: what was the problem?
[04:06] <Riddell> elcuco: me
[04:07] <Riddell> a patch that stopped translation files named *desktop* being loaded properly
[04:07] <elcuco> yes, i read your blog. i am just corious to see the code :)
[04:08] <bddebian> Heya
[04:17] <Riddell> elcuco: if (mainCatalogue.contains("desktop") == 0) {
[04:46] <mhb> good afternoon
[04:48] <fdoving> hi mhb.
[04:48] <abattoir> hi mhb :)
[04:48] <Jucato> hi mhb ^_^
[04:48] <Jucato> (that's a variety of greetings)
[04:52] <mhb> well, it's better than nothing :o)
[04:53] <mhb> sometimes nobody finds the time to greet you and that's worse, I guess ... anyway, back to topic - what's cooking?
[04:54] <bddebian> Hi mhb, fdoving, abattoir, Jucato! ;-)
[04:54] <Jucato> hehe hi bddebian! :)
[04:54] <abattoir> hi bddebian :)
[04:54] <fdoving> hi bddebian.
[04:54] <Jucato> lol
[04:55] <mhb> good afternoon bddebian
[04:55] <Jucato> hm... can anyone confirm this on the Edgy Desktop CD: Step 6 of 6: when Ubiquity tells you where it will install GRUB, and what partitions will be formatted, the location where you can install GRUB (hd0) is a hyperlink. clicking on it will bring up a dialog box, asking you for a location to install GRUB to
[04:57] <Riddell> Jucato: in edgy yes
[04:57] <Jucato> ooh... so we've had that feature already and nobody (or almost nobody) knew about it? :O
[07:15] <rouzic> Hi
[07:17] <rouzic> Riddell: I have a problem of dependences on having installed the package kde-devel in Edgy
[07:19] <Riddell> rouzic: what's that?
[07:20] <rouzic> I have tried to install the package kde-devel in Edgy and it(he,she) me generates dependences with the packages kdebase-dev (> = 4:3.4.3)
[07:21] <Riddell> hmm, it's broken in feisty too
[07:22] <rouzic> There is some way of installing this metapaquete?
[07:22] <rouzic> package*
[07:22] <Riddell> rouzic: what are you trying to do?
[07:22] <Riddell> apt-get build-dep kdebase  will work just as well
[07:22] <rouzic> install the kde-devel package
[07:23] <Riddell> but why?
[07:24] <rouzic> Because I need to install it
[07:25] <Riddell> you don't ever /need/ to install a meta package
[07:26] <Riddell> as I say, apt-get build-dep kdebase  will do
[07:27] <rouzic> thanks Riddell
[07:33] <Riddell> ooh, just got my first apport bug report
[07:34] <nixternal> Riddell: what can I do to get an apport crash? :)
[07:35] <nixternal> that is for any app that isn't KDE based?
[07:35] <Riddell> nixternal: crash a non kde app (with latest adept-notifier running and apport-qt installed)
[07:35] <Riddell> yes
[07:35] <Riddell> bash
[07:35] <Riddell> kill -SEGV $$
[07:35] <Riddell> that does it
[07:35] <nixternal> ahh
[07:45] <nixternal> I just crashed firefox, and ran kill -SEGV pid, was I supposed to get anything else after that?
[07:48] <Riddell> it crashed then you ran kill or you ran kill to crash it?
[07:48] <Riddell> firefox may have its own crash handler, I'm not sure, what's in /var/crash ?
[07:49] <Riddell> ryanakca, Tm_T: kickban needed in #kubuntu
[07:49] <Riddell> nixternal: you an op there?
[07:49] <nixternal> nope
[07:49] <nixternal> Riddell: it crashed on its own
[07:50] <Riddell> then you don't need to crash it again :)
[07:50] <nixternal> nothing in /var/crash
[07:51] <Riddell> thanks fdoving
[07:51] <nixternal> let me try another app
[07:51] <fdoving> :)
[07:51] <nixternal> how do I get to become an OP over there and have fun like that :)
[07:53] <Riddell> nixternal: ask me
[07:54] <nixternal> ahh that easy :)
[07:54] <nixternal> hrmm, Gnome hearts used to crash, but I guess they fixed it
[07:54] <nixternal> now I am trying to crash everything
[07:54] <nixternal> lol
[07:55] <Riddell> just use kill
[07:55] <Riddell> -SEGV
[07:55] <nixternal> woohoo, cool!
[07:55] <Riddell> what happened?
[07:56] <nixternal> it crashed :)
[07:56] <Riddell> and...?
[07:56] <nixternal> went to lp to file a bug
[07:56] <nixternal> I didn't follow through though and report the bug
[07:56] <Riddell> apport popped up?
[07:56] <nixternal> yes
[07:56] <Riddell> groovy
[07:56] <nixternal> i did the send to devs
[07:56] <nixternal> but canceled out instead of sending a bogus report
[07:57] <nixternal> well Riddell, if more help is needed in #kubuntu I am willing to help out OP wise, I am on the op teams already
[08:00] <seele> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237
[08:00] <seele> ouch, hehe
[08:00] <nixternal> heh, he is having a rough week
[08:01] <Riddell> but there's no need for him to take it out on us
[08:03] <nixternal> Riddell: what did ESR take out on us? did I miss something?
[08:04] <Riddell> he switched to Ubuntu!  now he'll troll about us.  at least he hasn't switched to KDE
[08:05] <Riddell> Linus is bad enough :)
[08:05] <nixternal> haha
[08:05] <nixternal> true
[08:05] <nixternal> I love Linus though, he is persistant and humorous at the same time
[08:06] <nixternal> at least Linus is productive, I mean he patched metacity :)
[08:06] <marseillai_> who is ESR exactly! every one speaks about him but i've never heard anything about him before
[08:07] <nixternal> man, yesterday I was showing of Kubuntu Feisty running Beryl, and everyone in my class is like who, Vista and Mac killer. I wasn't expecting that from a bunch of myspace junkies
[08:07] <Riddell> someone who wrote something interesting once
[08:07] <nixternal> lol
[08:07] <nixternal> a long time ago
[08:07] <Riddell> marseillai_: author of the cathedral and the bazaar.  also one of the founders of the open sauce inititive
[08:08] <Riddell> seems himself as the business friendly RMS
[08:08] <marseillai_> oki! i thought i was a developper
[08:08] <marseillai_> *it
[08:08] <nixternal> wow, it was only 8 years ago he wrote revenge
[08:09] <marseillai_> so one more person on ubuntu! but him or someone else is exactly the same
[08:09] <nixternal> he is in love with himself no doubt
[08:09] <nixternal> Today I'm one of the half-dozen or so most influential people in that movement; in fact, a lot of people would put me among the top three, with Linus Torvalds and Richard M. Stallman
[08:10] <nixternal> oh wow, he is really full of himself. Riddell make sure you .*@his_domain* on the kubuntu-* lists :)
[08:10] <Riddell> he's also the worst possible stereotype of an American
[08:10] <marseillai_> lol
[08:10] <marseillai_> love this one Riddell ! :D
[08:12] <nixternal> haha Riddell, that is sadly so true
[08:12] <nixternal> Riddell: what we would call him here in America is "white trash"
[08:12] <nixternal> or at least that is what they called him at a UIC event years back during a talk he "tried" to give
[08:12] <Riddell> sounds a bit racist
[08:13] <manchicken> And he's a hypocrite for hire.
[08:13] <nixternal> haha yes
[08:13] <nixternal> manchicken: did you ever see him give a talk at UIC back about 5 or so years ago?
[08:13] <manchicken> Nope.
[08:13] <manchicken> I would be more likely to protest outside his talks.
[08:15] <nixternal> haha, Riddell "white trash" would be racist depending on where it came from I guess
[08:15] <nixternal> my motto is "I ain't white trash, but I ain't high class"  <- manchicken you hillbilly, what song did that come from?
[08:16] <manchicken> If I were from the "dirty south," I'd be offended to have ESR counted among my ranks.
[08:16] <manchicken> Sounds like Garth Brooks.  heh
[08:16] <nixternal> lol
[08:17] <nixternal> actually it is sawyer brown
[08:18] <manchicken> Ah.  I've never been a big country fan.
[08:18] <manchicken> My mom on the other hand...
[08:18] <nixternal> heh
[09:09] <Tm_T> Riddell: Sorry, I was talking about Linux in local communityhouse.
[09:13] <_StefanS_> hi there
[09:17] <_StefanS_> I just saw the new fglrx is out from amd... why the hell can't they figure out to add glx_from_pixmap so we can have composite enabled... jeeez
[09:18] <yuriy> they released a new driver wihout it?
[09:18] <_StefanS_> yuriy: yes... quite remarkable
[09:18] <fdoving> we don't want composite, we want text consoles. we're linux geeks.
[09:19] <_StefanS_> fdoving: yes,.. and pigs might eventually fly
[09:20] <_StefanS_> If I could rip out this ati card and get an nvidia I would have done that long time ago
[09:20] <fdoving> flying pigs with ati/amd stickers all over the place.
[09:20] <_StefanS_> fdoving: yessir.. shitting bricks all over the place
[09:21] <_StefanS_> fdoving: I'm just soo tired that they keep ignoring that, and dont keep up with competition
[09:21] <_StefanS_> enough about that.
[09:22] <fdoving> open drivers is a nice thing.
[09:22] <_StefanS_> Jucato: did you remember that question ?
[09:22] <Jucato> _StefanS_: hi!
[09:22] <Jucato> yes
[09:22] <_StefanS_> fdoving: well yes, but money talks
[09:22] <fdoving> buy old hardware. :)
[09:22] <_StefanS_> fdoving: well I might go back to my trusty old Texas instruments TI30  .. Its just not worth compiling on :D
[09:23] <_StefanS_> Jucato: shoot
[09:23] <fdoving> my ati mobility 9200 works well with the old free ati driver.
[09:23] <_StefanS_> fdoving: but also very slow.
[09:24] <fdoving> sure.
[09:24] <Jucato> _StefanS_: remember that my previous problem was that KDE can't see the widget Styles and windecos I compiled in /opt, but if I launch kcontrol from the command line, that kcontrol sees the style/windeco?
[09:24] <_StefanS_> fdoving: you might consider crayons with that.. just to accelerate it a bit
[09:24] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ah yep .. the path stuff
[09:24] <Jucato> that was solved by putting the path and kdedirs vars in .bash_profile right?
[09:24] <_StefanS_> Jucato: yep
[09:25] <Jucato> well, I thought that was solved... but not entirely hehehe
[09:25] <_StefanS_> Jucato: ow
[09:25] <fdoving> .bash_profile doesn't work well with kdm.
[09:25] <_StefanS_> Jucato: soo whats next ? :)
[09:25] <Jucato> it does see the styles and windecos. but it doesn't see the Konversation I compiled from SVN
[09:25] <fdoving> i'd use /etc/environment if it's a global thing.
[09:25] <_StefanS_> fdoving: well it isn't
[09:25] <Jucato> so when I launch konversation from the K Menu, or Alt+F2, it runs version 1.0.1
[09:26] <Jucato> but if I launch from Konsole or from Kommando, it runs the SVN version
[09:26] <fdoving> then .xsession is a option.
[09:26] <fdoving> Jucato: that's because .bash_profile isn't hte correct place, kdm doesn't read that. the bash started by konsole does.
[09:27] <fdoving> so kde started from kdm is not aware of the new settings you provided in .bash_profile.
[09:27] <Jucato> fdoving: where would be the proper place for user specific changes to PATH and KDEDIRS?
[09:27] <fdoving> Jucato: for a user specific change, i'd use ~/.xsession
[09:27] <Jucato> fdoving: although it seems to be aware of it because it now sees the styles and windecos I compiled
[09:29] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well it seems like fdoving know about that, than I do :)
[09:29] <ryanakca> Riddell: I don't have ops in any ubuntu channel except -classroom, sorry... doesn't mean I would deny them if someone offered them to me... : )
[09:29] <Jucato> I'm waiting for more input :)
[09:29] <fdoving> Jucato: 'pstree | more' will give you an idea of where the settings from ~/.bash_profile is read.
[09:30] <fdoving> Jucato: every bash instance reads that file. it -can- be sourced by other scripts too, i'm not 100% sure where, though.
[09:30] <Jucato> fdoving, _StefanS_: this "issue" has been bugging me for a long time now, since the KDE instructions on building KDE relies on these env vars. and according to some devs, it works properly in Mandriva and Gentoo...
[09:31] <fdoving> Jucato: can this be set system-wide?
[09:31] <fdoving> Jucato: i'd recommend /etc/environment
[09:31] <Jucato> fdoving: no, it shouldn't (referring to building KDE from SVN on another user
[09:32] <fdoving> ah.
[09:32] <Jucato> I know there's probably a Kubuntu way of building KDE (from SVN?) using some chroot blackmagic, but I'm bothered that this other way doesn't work
[09:33] <fdoving> i'd try
[09:33] <fdoving> ~/.xsession
[09:33] <Jucato> fdoving: ok, I'll look into that. thanks
[09:33] <fdoving> how do you set this in .bash_profile ?
[09:34] <Jucato> export PATH=/opt/bin:$PATH
[09:34] <Jucato> export KDEDIRS=/opt:$KDEDIRS
[09:34] <Jucato> actually, iirc, the KDE guides says to put those env vars in .bashrc
[09:35] <fdoving> i think you might consider using .bashrc for this.
[09:35] <Jucato> fdoving: yeah I did.well anyway, here's the complete view :)
[09:35] <fdoving> Jucato: did you try .bashrc ?
[09:36] <fdoving> .bash_profile is only read when bash is started as a login-shell.
[09:36] <Jucato> I compile KDE stuff (programs from SVN, styles, windecos) in /opt. when I put those 2 env vars in .bashrc,  KDE doesn't see the styles or windecos, or runs the correct Konvi version. but launching kcontrol or konvi from the command line does
[09:37] <Jucato> as per _StefanS_'s suggsetions, I move the env vars to .bash_profile. the styles and windecos now get detected. but KDE still launches the default installed version (1.0.1), unless I launch from Konsole or Kommando
[09:38] <_StefanS_> Jucato: have you tried modifying the order of the PATH entries ?
[09:38] <fdoving> Jucato: alt-f2 : xterm -e 'printenv|less'
[09:38] <_StefanS_> Jucato: maybe you should have /opt/kde/bin first
[09:39] <Jucato> _StefanS_: yes I do have it first
[09:39] <_StefanS_> Jucato: oka
[09:39] <_StefanS_> Jucato: I was just thinking
[09:40] <Jucato> fdoving: everything looks normal here
[09:40] <fdoving> probably just because that command is useless, xterm uses bash to do this.
[09:41] <Jucato> :)
[09:41] <Jucato> one day... one day, I'll figure this out...
[09:41] <Jucato> :(
[09:41] <Jucato> ok, I just smiled and frowned in a span of 0.5 secs...
[09:47] <fdoving> Jucato: i think kde uses 'sh' (dash) to execute it's commands.
[09:47] <fdoving> so .profile might work.
[09:48] <Jucato> ah
[09:48] <fdoving>      kdesktopshxtermdashpstree
[09:48] <fdoving> looks like that's what happens.
[09:48] <Jucato> hm... iirc someone mentioned that the dash/bash thing might be a cause
[09:49] <Jucato> fdoving: thanks! I'll look into that after going to bed :)
[09:49] <Jucato> 05:00 here and I haven't slept yet... for some reason...
[09:49] <fdoving> go to bed now!
[09:50] <Jucato> hehe
[09:50] <Jucato> would it be ok if I ping you sometime if this doesn't work?
[09:50] <fdoving> sure.
[09:50] <Jucato> thanks
[09:51] <Jucato> hm.. so basically, I remove the env vars from .bash_profile and put them in .profile? (just to test first)
[09:51] <fdoving> looks like the default /etc/profile defaults to read ~/.bashrc if it exists. so.. i don't understand why that didn't work for you.
[09:51] <fdoving> Jucato: yes.
[09:52] <Jucato> I'll try again. if .profile doesn't work, then .bashrc again...
[09:52] <Jucato> ok, heading for bed :)
[09:52] <fdoving> nite.
[09:53] <Jucato> or, good morning lol
[09:53] <Jucato> thanks fdoving. you too _StefanS_ :)
[09:53] <_StefanS_> no prob :)
[09:58] <fdoving> Jucato: see /usr/bin/startkde line ~165
[09:59] <fdoving> looks like you want your stuff in ~/.kde/env/env.sh or something.


[02:42] <unixabg> apw: On casper patch testing may I am assume that a stock wily-desktop.iso will be ok to test with?
[16:03] <apw> pthreat (N,BTFL), the key is built during the main kernel build process
[16:04] <apw> unixabg, should be against the versions in that yes
[20:00] <unixabg> apw: just to make sure I am not missing something simple, I am testing by extracting iso image
[20:01] <unixabg> then I create a partial squash that should be able to be stacked on top with live-partial-squashfs-updates
[20:02] <unixabg> then I generate a new iso and test the stacking. This is how I test on debian so I am assuming
[20:02] <unixabg> it ok to do with casper and ubuntu.
[20:05] <unixabg> Ah I just did a break=mount and I see that the casper needs to be in the initramfs. Ok that might
[20:05] <unixabg> explain alot.
[20:05] <unixabg> s/casper/modified casper/
[23:05] <apw> unixabg, yeah in initrd


[06:44] <gre-> heya
[06:45] <gre-> im searching every day, every night a fix to my issue..
[06:45] <gre-> can't find
[06:45] <gre-> when im playing at a game (minecraft for example) in fullscreen mode (f11), windows game become transparent and im forced to restart the game
[06:46] <gre-> i just wanted to know if this bug is known by the ubuntu community
[06:46] <gre-> im using ubuntu 14.04
[17:18] <hjd> Could someone please mark bug 1309387 as Triaged/High? Thanks :)
[17:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1309387 in gdebi (Ubuntu) "Gdebi not installing required dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1309387
[17:27] <penguin42> done


[11:56] <bdrung> micahg: around?
[13:46] <BUGabundo> o/
[17:48] <micahg> bdrung: now I am, what's up?
[17:50] <bdrung> micahg: you should write in your comment if you upload something to -proposed
[17:51] <micahg> bdrung: ok
[23:03] <BUGabundo> romium-browser/chromium-browser --type=plugin --plugin-path=/home/bugabundo/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so --lang=en-US --plugin-data-dir=/home/bugabundo/.config/chromium/Default --channel=2492.0x7f6bd8165238.534314402: ../../src/xcb_io.c:183: process_responses: Assertion `!(req && current_request && !(((long) (req->sequence) - (long) (current_request)) <= 0))' failed.
[23:03] <BUGabundo> love to see flash screw it


[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87436 in pciutils (main) "pciutils-dev possibly somewhat broken in feisty?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87436
[12:28] <ajmitch> bdmurray: ping
[12:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87437 in kde4libs (universe) "[apport]  klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in QString::isEmpty()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87437
[12:29] <bdmurray> ajmitch: pong
[12:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87438 in beagle (main) "[apport]  beagled crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87438
[12:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87439 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Gnome-power-manager to slow to power off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87439
[12:33] <ajmitch> bdmurray: sync requests, could you avoid confirming & subscribing ubuntu-archive, please?
[12:34] <bdmurray> ajmitch: I believe I did that once and now have a better understanding of the process.
[12:34] <ajmitch> since for non-MOTUs they need to be approved by a MOTU
[12:34] <ajmitch> ok
[12:34] <ajmitch> it came up yesterday with a bug :)
[12:34] <bdmurray> ajmitch: really? which bug?
[12:34] <ajmitch> it was filed about 10 days ago, let me look
[12:35] <ajmitch> bug 84857
[12:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 84857 in Ubuntu "Please sync gplcver 2.11a-3 (unstable) from Debian" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84857
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87440 in firefox (main) "Desktop freeze when right clicking on a flash with Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87440
[12:36] <bdmurray> ajmitch: yeah, that seems to be the one I goofed on
[12:37] <ajmitch> ok
[12:37] <ajmitch> some of this stuff could be better documented, I think
[12:38] <bdmurray> The SyncRequestProcess wiki page seems pretty clear, once you know about it. ;)
[12:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87441 in libsdl1.2 (main) "libsdl-dev has failed dependancies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87441
[12:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87442 in Ubuntu "Can't find PCMCIA controller in KinfoCenter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87442
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87443 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87443
[01:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87444 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87444
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87445 in python-defaults (main) "crash while converting avi using TOVID" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87445
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87446 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in XConnectionNumber()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87446
[01:20] <shawarma> I'm still not sure what to do about this bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/84658
[01:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 84658 in lighttpd "Some SSL requests fail with "write failed"" [Undecided,Needs info]
[01:20] <shawarma> Would it be OK to reject just because it's already fixed in Feisty?
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87447 in xsane (main) "XSane crashes [Samsung SCX-4216F is installed] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87447
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87448 in bughelper (main) "cleaning bug helper cache" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87448
[01:22] <bdmurray> shawarma: just a sec
[01:25] <bdmurray> shawarma: It won't fix the users issue, but on the other hand getting the package updated for edgy is unlikely.
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87449 in usplash (main) "[apport]  usplash crashed with SIGSEGV in rdw()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87449
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87450 in tinyerp-client (universe) "[apport]  tinyerp-client.py crashed with rpc_exception in rpc_exec_auth()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87450
[01:25] <shawarma> bdmurray: precisely
[01:26] <noppe> isn't that the plan of action at this point with edgy bugs that are fixed in feisty? Wait for feisty..
[01:29] <shawarma> noppe: Yes... So reject it?
[01:30] <noppe> shawarma: yah but also state that it is fixed in feisty and why it won't be included in edgy
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87451 in Ubuntu "Laptop sleep LED flashes after hibernation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87451
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87452 in kvm (universe) "[apport]  kvm crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87452
[01:32] <shawarma> noppe: do we have a standard text explaining why stuff won't be back-fixed in edgy?
[01:33] <noppe> no unfortunately not
[01:33] <noppe> at least not that I remember
[01:33] <noppe> we should probably draft one as we are going to be having a lot of those..
[01:33] <shawarma> noppe: Any suggestions then?
[01:33] <bdmurray> This might be of some assistance https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:33] <noppe> ahh yes we do
[01:33] <noppe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-db3dbd9f6807f984cf427c8c993ba67c2b61d4f3
[01:33] <bdmurray> "The Ubuntu team may apply important security fixes to 1.0.x, but any new features or non-security bugfixes won't be made available."
[01:33] <noppe> Thanks for the bug report. I'm closing it because the bug has been fixed in Feisty. It won't be fixed in 6.10 because the bug doesn't fit requirements for backporting. See <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports> for more information.
[01:33] <noppe> or the one above it for back porting
[01:34] <noppe> but are they even back porting at this point?
[01:34] <shawarma> noppe: Why wouldn't they be?
[01:35] <noppe> because edgy isn't long term support like dapper
[01:35] <noppe> but I might be wrong
[01:35] <shawarma> noppe: There is both an -updates and a -backports repo for edgy.
[01:36] <noppe> yah well the question is how long are they going to want to have developers dedicated to edgy when feisty replaces edgy?
[01:37] <shawarma> About 25 seconds, is my guess.
[01:37] <shawarma> There's really no reason for anyone to stick with Edgy when Feisty comes out.
[01:38] <noppe> right so why would they dedicate to back porting fixes to edgy if it is affecting 1 or 2 people?
[01:38] <noppe> they wouldn't
[01:40] <shawarma> noppe: There's still the 6 months from Edgy's release to Feisty's release.
[01:41] <shawarma> noppe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy-backports/
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87453 in beagle (main) "[apport]  beagled crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87453
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87454 in beryl-manager (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87454
[01:41] <noppe> shawarma: right but if the problem isn't affecting most of the edgy population IE a video driver bug it probably isn't going to get back ported
[01:42] <noppe> you can tell the person to submit a request to have it back ported but realistically I don't see that happening
[01:43] <shawarma> noppe: I actually think lighttpd is an excellent candidate for backporting.
[01:43] <shawarma> noppe: Quite a few issues have been fixed since Edgy's release.
[01:43] <Hobbsee> shawarma: all -updates stuff has to go thru the SRU process, but tends to take ~2 months
[01:44] <shawarma> Hobbsee: Yes, but -backports is a different story.
[01:44] <Hobbsee> so anything filed now is extremely unlikely to get fixed before feisty release
[01:44] <Hobbsee> true
[01:45] <shawarma> Anyhow, I've played the ball into the bug reporter's half of the playing field. I've rejected the bug  telling him that he can ask for it to be backported if he feels it's important enough.
[01:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87456 in bughelper (main) "bughelper -v -p firefox does not have expected results" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87456
[01:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87455 in nagios-images (universe) "No Ubuntu statusmap icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87455
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87459 in compiz (universe) "GL Desktop crashes on enabling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87459
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87461 in Ubuntu "Installer crashed after displaying the "Prepare mount points" dialog box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87461
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87463 in Ubuntu "distribution update fatal error - TypeError" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87463
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87464 in Ubuntu "quake 3 arena crashes since latest update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87464
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87465 in trophy (universe) "nearly unplayable (game speed?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87465
[03:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87466 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in wnck_workspace_get_width()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87466
[03:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87467 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kfontinst crashed with SIGSEGV in FT_Get_Postscript_Name()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87467
[03:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87468 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia module won't load if no xorg.conf is available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87468
[03:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87469 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in operator>>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87469
[03:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87470 in Ubuntu "Unhelpful "DCOP communications error (Konqueror)" on login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87470
[03:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87472 in Ubuntu "Using chmod 400 ~/.recently-used does not work for the .xbel file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87472
[03:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87473 in pam-keyring (universe) "libpam-keyring depends on gnome-session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87473
[03:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87474 in gramps (universe) "[apport]  gramps.py crashed with SIGSEGV in gnome_canvas_item_affine_absolute()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87474
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87475 in xorg (main) "x11-common fails to upgrade (Fiesty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87475
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87476 in gnome-panel (main) "crash on right click of Kopete chat window window list item" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87476
[03:37] <TheMuso> c
[03:41] <caravena> How to install all package *-dbgsym of my packages installed ?
[03:42] <caravena> My repositories ok, no problem
[03:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87477 in Ubuntu "Unusual Boot Messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87477
[04:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87478 in jack-audio-connection-kit (universe) "[apport]  jackd crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_cancel()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87478
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87479 in destar (universe) "[apport]  destar.py crashed with TypeError in file_input()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87479
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87462 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGSEGV in QPixmap::convertFromImage()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87462
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87480 in pype (universe) "[apport]  pype crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87480
[04:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87481 in php5 (main) "stream_get_wrappers broken in php5 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87481
[04:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87482 in mouseemu (universe) "mouseemu ctl+click for contextual menu does not work in some apps on MacBook Pro" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87482
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87485 in gedit (main) "[apport]  gedit crashed with SIGSEGV in gpa_node_get_path_value() " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87485
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87486 in compiz (universe) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87486
[06:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87487 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  baobab crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87487
[06:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87488 in Ubuntu "Login screen issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87488
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87489 in pypolicyd-spf (universe) "Processing to skip localhost for SPF checks does not work for IPv6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87489
[06:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87490 in w3m-el (universe) "please sync with Debian 1.4.4-3 package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87490
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87491 in xorg-server (main) "xnest doesn't process mouse movement events correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87491
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87492 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87492
[07:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87493 in python-pysqlite2 (main) "Conflicts with python-sqlite" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87493
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87494 in jokosher (universe) "Same menu accelerators for 'Edit' and 'Extensions'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87494
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87495 in Ubuntu "myheritage.com flash movie crashes clipboard functionality" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87495
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87496 in Ubuntu "Wrong resolution with an nvidia GeForce Go 7400" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87496
[09:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87500 in gnome-panel (main) "errrormessage popped up during ubuntu-update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87500
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87501 in Ubuntu "[feisty alpha 4]  unable to login through gdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87501
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87502 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  inconsistent keyboard icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87502
[10:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87503 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_foreach()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87503
[10:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87504 in rescue (main) "Rescue partitioner fails with RAID volumes active" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87504
[10:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87505 in grub (main) "GRUB auto-install doesn't stop to ask questions when it should" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87505
[10:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87506 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythfrontend freeze" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87506
[10:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87507 in beryl-manager (universe) "Beryl on dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87507
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87508 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed immediately after lauching " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87508
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87509 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-sound-properties crashed with SIGSEGV"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87509
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87511 in update-manager (main) "[feisty alpha 4 ]  garbled display in download status window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87511
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87512 in Ubuntu "kopete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87512
[10:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87510 in Ubuntu "kdelibs4c2a" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87510
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87514 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox doesn't transfer music or podcast files to 2GB black iPod nano" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87514
[11:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87516 in easytag (universe) "Crash while deleting multiple files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87516
[11:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87515 in cryptsetup (universe) "can not mount a crypt root readonly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87515
[11:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87517 in pouetchess (universe) "game crashes on 4th. move" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87517
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87519 in kdebase (main) "editing smb.conf via kcontrol adds wrong option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87519
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87520 in xorg-server (main) "fglrx x server crashes on video overlay initialization" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87520
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87521 in mythtv (multiverse) "proposed mythtv-database breaks config" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87521
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87522 in xorg (main) "nvidia-glx breaks xorg on GeForce Go 7400" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87522
[12:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87523 in compiz (universe) "Enabling compiz, no confirmation window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87523
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87524 in gcompris (main) "Gcompris crashed during play (Maze around level 5)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87524
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87526 in firefox (main) "Firefox dns problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87526
[01:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87527 in xsane (main) "feisty xsane Canon LIDE 20 broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87527
[01:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87528 in sonata (universe) "[apport]  sonata crashed with AttributeError in trayaction()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87528
[01:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87529 in xsane (main) "feisty xsane Lexmark X73 broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87529
[01:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87530 in Ubuntu "Can't install Feisty Fawn Herd 4, graphic card problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87530
[01:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87531 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Package not translateable in launchpad" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87531
[01:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87532 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Finnish translation for xkeyboard-config" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87532
[01:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87533 in gnome-applets (main) "workspace-switcher number of workspaces not working (dup-of: 83334)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87533
[01:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87535 in blender (universe) "Blender 2.43 is out! Please update!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87535
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87534 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org 2.1 splash in herd 4" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87534
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87536 in gtkpod (universe) "[feisty]  gtkpod fails to build with gpod 0.4.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87536
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87537 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes coming out of standby" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87537
[01:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87538 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-keyboard-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in g_list_foreach()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87538
[01:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87539 in python-qt4 (main) "Many examples from python-qt4-doc crashes." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87539
[01:55] <coNP> heya pochu
[01:55] <pochu> coNP: hello :)
[01:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87540 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in KInstance::dirs()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87540
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87541 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany crashed with http://www.forexdirectory.net/euro.html" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87541
[02:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87542 in kdebase (main) "troubles downloading pakages while auto-updating" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87542
[02:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87543 in dvdrip (multiverse) "DVDRip new release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87543
[02:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87545 in kubuntu-meta (main) "[feisty] Some accent-related keys don't work after latest Feisty upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87545
[02:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87544 in network-manager (main) "network manager does not detect network hardware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87544
[02:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87546 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87546
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87549 in Ubuntu "Herd4 startup screen artifacts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87549
[02:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87550 in firefox (main) "enable 'layout.word_select.stop_at_punctuation' in firefox build for feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87550
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87551 in dosfstools (main) "dosfsck crashes to copy/delete symbolic links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87551
[02:31] <pochu> sfllaw, bdmurray: what about update the topic and set up another Hug day?
[02:32] <pochu> hey dsas :)
[02:32] <dsas> hi pochu, how are things?
[02:32] <pochu> dsas: searching an sponsor for an upload :)
[02:32] <pochu> dsas: I can fix bugs, but I can't upload them hehe
[02:32] <pochu> :)
[02:32] <dsas> cool, what have you been working on?
[02:32] <pochu> dsas: gajim :)
[02:33] <pochu> bug 86318
[02:33] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86318 in gajim "[UVF Exception]  Please, update Gajim to 0.11.1" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86318
[02:33] <pochu> which also fix bug 80770
[02:33] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80770 in gajim "gajim reconnects when wifi returns even it it wasn't connected before" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80770
[02:34] <dsas> cool, nice work :)
[02:34] <pochu> dsas: I have an sponsor! :)
[02:34] <pochu> hehe
[02:34] <pochu> dsas: and what about you?
[02:34] <dsas> updating, the documentation for my wifi card.
[02:35] <pochu> dsas: :)
[02:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87553 in rhythmbox (main) "Listview Column Header Volume Icon Does Nothing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87553
[02:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87555 in firefox (main) "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87555
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87556 in ubiquity (main) "Crash at installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87556
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87557 in frozen-bubble (universe) "request to have -cb added to frozen bubble by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87557
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87558 in Ubuntu "nomachine nx dont work in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87558
[03:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, I want to search for a bug, but I don't know how the bar with buttons representing the current path is called in nautilus
[03:03] <stgraber> the "location bar"
[03:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ok thanks
[03:04] <stgraber> np
[03:05] <Le-Chuck_ITA> found the bug! thanks and bye all
[03:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87562 in monodevelop (universe) "Request Version 0.13" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87562
[03:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87561 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed while sitting idle" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87561
[03:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87564 in Ubuntu "Can't switch between keyboard layouts in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87564
[03:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87563 in geany (universe) "UVF exception: geany 0.10 -> 0.10.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87563
[03:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87565 in telepathy-gabble (universe) "[apport]  telepathy-gabble crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87565
[03:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87566 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus should show CD label for mounted iso image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87566
[03:26] <tokj> in which cases a bug report can be considered as wishlist and so not be rejected?
[03:27] <tokj> (maybe someday i will improve my english)
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87567 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox still uses old translation from Edgy in Feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87567
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87568 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87568
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87569 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGFPE in TagLib::Wav::Properties::readWavProperties()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87569
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87570 in gnome-applets (main) "Switching keyboard layout does not work properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87570
[03:50] <pochu> tokj: your english is fine :) About your question, I think when it's a feature request, but it does not mean a "changing defaults"
[03:50] <tokj> thank you pochu :)
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87571 in network-manager (main) "[apport]  NetworkManager crashed with signal 5 in main()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87571
[03:51] <pochu> tokj: but probably you should need to report the bug upstream, and create a watch in the ubuntu task :)
[03:53] <tokj> pochu: i.e.: this bug report has just been filed: https://launchpad.net/bugs/87566 . it is correct tu mark it as a wishlist?
[03:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87566 in nautilus "Nautilus should show CD label for mounted iso image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[03:54] <pochu> tokj: looking
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87572 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic simply crashed after login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87572
[03:58] <pochu> tokj: I'm not sure what he means... If I insert a cd, nautilus shows the cd name... however, he says he has mounted it in /media/feisty... why not mount it in /media/cdrom, as it's done by default?
[03:58] <pochu> tokj: anyway, yes, it's a wishlist, but it would be fine if you can confirm/unconfirm it ;)
[04:00] <tokj> pochu: he didn't mount a cd, but a iso. i think he would like to use that iso as a repo, but i'm not sure
[04:00] <pochu> tokj: oh, I understand it now :)
[04:01] <tokj> pochu: so, instead of /media/feisty that is the iso mount point, he would like to see "feisty" in example
[04:01] <pochu> tokj: yep, then that's a wishlist, which should be forwarded upstream (but it should be confirmed first)
[04:02] <pochu> tokj: do you have an iso image? and if so, can you confirm it?
[04:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87573 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes on launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87573
[04:02] <tokj> pochu: i haven't any iso image, sorry.
[04:03] <pochu> tokj: but you can mark the report as wishlist ;) and forward it upstream, hehe :)
[04:04] <tokj> pochu: i'm not in the QA team. the only thing i can do is changing the bug status and forward it to upstream
[04:04] <pochu> tokj: then I'll do it for you ;)
[04:04] <tokj> thanks pochu ;)
[04:04] <pochu> tokj: done
[04:05] <pochu> np :)
[04:05] <tokj> :)
[04:05] <tokj> i love this community :)
[04:06] <pochu> tokj: do you know how to create a bug watch?
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87574 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice Base Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87574
[04:06] <tokj> pochu: no. i'm not very expert
[04:07] <pochu> tokj: it's not difficult. In the left panel, click in "affects upstream", and in the url field, add the upstream url :)
[04:08] <tokj> ah ok
[04:08] <pochu> tokj: sorry, also affects distribution
[04:08] <pochu> :)
[04:09] <pochu> tokj: lol, I said it well the first time :) also affects upstream hehehe
[04:11] <tokj> pochu: yes, the second one is related to other distributions.
[04:11] <pochu> tokj: yep :)
[04:11] <tokj> pochu: anyway, i understand how to create a bug watch :)
[04:12] <pochu> tokj: that's fine :)
[04:13] <pochu> tokj: have you already joined the BugSquad?
[04:13] <pochu> tokj: I see you ;)
[04:14] <tokj> yes
[04:14] <tokj> in november or december, i don't remember exactly :P
[04:15] <pochu> tokj: and a launchpad beta tester :)
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87575 in pyyaml (universe) "Backport multiple upstream patches for pyyaml" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87575
[04:19] <tokj> pochu: it's not a big deal. just ask to join the team. there is a condition for joining that you have to accept and then you're approved :)
[04:20] <pochu> tokj: which condition? I would accept any condition except money hehe :)
[04:20] <tokj> lol ... no money :D
[04:21] <Hobbsee> that you wont post screenshots
[04:21] <tokj> exactly
[04:21] <dthacker> post screenshots to malone? to irc?
[04:21] <pochu> oh, that's an easy condition :)
[04:22] <pochu> of course I assume I should report bugs, right? But I already do that :)
[04:22] <pochu> hehe
[04:23] <tokj> obviosly feedbacks are appreciated
[04:24] <dthacker> bug squad has been very polite when I made triaging mistakes.  They are great at correcting you in a positive way.
[04:25] <pochu> dthacker: sure :)
[04:25] <pochu> now, I have to reboot, see you in a moment!
[04:26] <dthacker> happy rebooting
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87577 in ubiquity (main) "Ubutnu 7.04 - installer crash on step 7" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87577
[04:34] <pochu> hi guys :)
[04:34] <tokj> hi pochu :)
[04:46] <tokj> :ot: is the voting for community council members started or not yet? :sorry for the ot:
[04:49] <pochu> tokj: from the wiki: Voting starts on monday, feb 19 (if no technical issues delay this) and 3 out of these 5 people will join the community council.
[04:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87578 in vbetool (main) "vbetool crashes on return from suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87578
[04:52] <pochu> tokj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda (look down at Feb 13 items)
[04:53] <tokj> pochu: yes, i read it. but yesterday mdke (matthew east) told me that the voting isn't started yet
[04:54] <pochu> tokj: then I have no idea :) sorry
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87579 in readahead-list (main) "readahead should be skipped during resume from disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87579
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87580 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87580
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87581 in Ubuntu "7zip dosen't seem to do anything?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87581
[05:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87582 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-about-me crashed with SIGSEGV in g_io_channel_shutdown()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87582
[05:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87583 in kdegames (main) "Patience / Klondike autoplay plays wrong cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87583
[05:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87584 in metacity (main) "Gnome-panel launchers cause shared pgid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87584
[05:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87586 in gaim-galago (universe) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87586
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87587 in gnome-utils (main) "[apport]  gnome-system-log crashed with SIGSEGV in string_get_date_string()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87587
[05:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87588 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in gaim_gtk_buddy_icon_get_scale_size()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87588
[05:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87589 in gnome-screensaver (main) "[feisty]  No theme active" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87589
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87591 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox launches gnome-screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87591
[06:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87592 in gnome-phone-manager (universe) "gnome-phone-manager shoud depend on libopenobex1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87592
[06:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87593 in Ubuntu "Fiest 7.01 installation disk partition util broke" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87593
[06:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87594 in Ubuntu "firefox crashes after watching youtube videos" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87594
[06:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87595 in cups-pdf (universe) "Please sync cups-pdf (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87595
[06:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87596 in mkvtoolnix (universe) "mmg crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87596
[06:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87597 in Ubuntu "each printed page starts with line of 'garbage' (Laserjet 4+ over network)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87597
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87600 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-manager crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87600
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87598 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87598
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87599 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-qt crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in ui_present_crash()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87599
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87601 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-manager crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87601
[06:23] <tokj> 87600, 87601?
[06:23] <pochu> tokj: seem to be dups :)
[06:24] <tokj> yes, i'm reading them
[06:24] <tokj> exactly the same bug report
[06:26] <pochu> :)
[06:26] <cypher1> what is answers.launchpad.net ? is it something like a paid support ?
[06:26] <pochu> cypher1: it's support, but not paid
[06:26] <pochu> cypher1: community users :)
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87602 in lastfm (universe) "[apport]  lastfm crashed with SIGSEGV in audioCallback()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87602
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87603 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87603
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87604 in gnomebaker (universe) "gnomebaker should depend on icedax" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87604
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87605 in Ubuntu "touchpad not working after doing nothing for a while" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87605
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87606 in network-manager (main) "[apport]  nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87606
[06:26] <pochu> cypher1: this is the paid support: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[06:27] <cypher1> pochu, what is the difference between forums and that ?
[06:27] <pochu> cypher1: the forums are in ubuntuforums.org and that is in launchpad.net :)
[06:27] <pochu> hehe
[06:27] <cypher1> ok :)
[06:27] <cypher1> thanks
[06:27] <pochu> cypher1: not sure :) but sometimes, you can ask question there about launchpad, and things like that
[06:28] <cypher1> ok
[06:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87607 in Ubuntu "gnome-session-properties /Sessions tool/ doesn't allow to autostart programs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87607
[06:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87608 in Ubuntu "ATI 9600XT support with Samsung 192N" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87608
[06:46] <pochu> good bye bugsquad!
[06:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87609 in Ubuntu "[apport]  clothify.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87609
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87610 in firefox (main) "logs out while scrolling page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87610
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87611 in portmap (main) "portmap doesn't recognize <IP_ADDRESS> as local" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87611
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87614 in rezound (universe) "[apport]  rezound crashed with SIGSEGV in start_thread()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87614
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87615 in beagle (main) "Beagle search always warns that beagle is indexing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87615
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87616 in Ubuntu "kdevelop aborted on start of debug session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87616
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87612 in Ubuntu "Orca not shown under 'Applications' menu when active (dup-of: 87613)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87612
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87613 in gnome-orca (main) "Orca not shown under 'Applications' menu when active" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87613
[07:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87617 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu Feisty Herd 4 live CD hangs at boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87617
[07:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87618 in festival-gaim (universe) "Not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87618
[07:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87619 in control-center (main) "Control centre icon text not wrapped" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87619
[07:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87620 in mono (main) "[apport]  mono crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87620
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87621 in epiphany-browser (main) "Margins incorrect in printouts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87621
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87622 in kdebase (main) "k3b not installable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87622
[07:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87623 in gnome-btdownload (main) "[apport]  gnome-btdownload crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87623
[07:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87624 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87624
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87625 in metacity (main) "[whishlist]  Metacity should allow for automatically losing window/application data on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87625
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87626 in gaim (main) "Random Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87626
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87627 in bash (main) "Sh scripts always return a permission error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87627
[07:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87628 in gnome-applets (main) "[apport]  gnome-keyboard-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_list_foreach()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87628
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87629 in pymol (universe) "Please package new pymol version - 0.99rev8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87629
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87630 in pysol (universe) "Pysol fails to load on Feisty Fawn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87630
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87631 in gnome-system-tools (main) "Feisty Herd4/GNOME: Shutdown is "a trap" if unsaved documents." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87631
[07:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87632 in bug-buddy (main) "'System > Report a problem...' should collect bugs when offline to send later" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87632
[08:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87634 in kvm (universe) "KVM on AMD64 does not create group "kvm" (Feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87634
[08:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87636 in evolution (main) "[feisty]  Evolution crashed while sending a message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87636
[08:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87635 in Ubuntu "Compaq multiport W200 not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87635
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87637 in openoffice.org (main) "[apport]  soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87637
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87638 in apport (main) "Attempting to upload a crash report, apport failed with "HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87638
[08:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87639 in language-pack-gnome-pl-base (main) "wrong translation in Inkscape" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87639
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87640 in Ubuntu ""Add/Remove Applications" does not find Totem codecs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87640
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87641 in debconf (main) "[apport]  dpkg-preconfigure crashed with SIGSEGV in xcall_QGroupBox()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87641
[09:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87642 in ubiquity (main) "installation crashed at grub installation bit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87642
[09:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87643 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "fglrx in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-8-generic updated to version > 8.28.8 doesn't support old video cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87643
[09:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87644 in ghextris (universe) "Please sync ghextris (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87644
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87645 in evolution (main) "Evolution crashed without warning or being caught by the crash reporter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87645
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87646 in evolution (main) "Evolution crashed without warning or being caught by the crash reporter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87646
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87647 in ifmail (universe) "Please sync ifmail (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87647
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87648 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Regression from Edgy: Toshiba ACPI doesn't work on Portege M200" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87648
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87649 in Ubuntu "Bugs in beryl-core in ubuntu, white screen in beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87649
[09:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87652 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No sound in linux-image-2.6.20-8-powerpc G4 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87652
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87653 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87653
[10:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87654 in interchange (universe) "[UVF exception request]  interchange 5.4.2-1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87654
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87655 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "GNOME uses the phrase "click here"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87655
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87658 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87658
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87659 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87659
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87660 in gparted (main) "gparted - strange name of ext3 mount point" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87660
[10:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87657 in kolab-resource-handlers (universe) "Please sync kolab-resource-handlers (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87657
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87661 in xscreensaver (main) "[apport]  polytopes crashed with SIGILL in _mesa_x86_64_transform_points4_perspective()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87661
[10:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87662 in Ubuntu "Please sync libclass-trait-perl from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87662
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87664 in libwww-mechanize-ruby (universe) "Please sync libwww-mechanize-ruby (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87664
[10:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87663 in gnome-mount (main) "data track of enhanced cd not automatically mounted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87663
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87665 in sun-java6 "Beryl + Java Swing does not draw" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87665
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87666 in hplip (main) "Upgrade to hplip_1.7.1-1ubuntu2_i386.deb Feisty causes error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87666
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87667 in Ubuntu "[apport]  Message at each boot: gnome-volume-control (and others) crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87667
[11:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87651 in cinepaint (universe) "[apport]  sphere.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87651
[11:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87668 in mozilla (universe) "Mozilla crashes when not doing very much" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87668
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87650 in ubiquity (main) "The installer crashed" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87650
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87669 in firefox (main) "Crash when trying to open URL from adressfield or page" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87669
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87671 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt()" [High,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87671
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87672 in synaptic (main) "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV in pango_itemize_with_base_dir()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87672
[11:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87673 in nvu (universe) "[apport]  nvu-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87673
[11:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87674 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql-server amd64 user table innodb protection is greedy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87674
[11:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87675 in utf8-migration-tool (main) "Please sync utf8-migration-tool (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87675
[11:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87676 in filezilla (universe) "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87676
[11:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87677 in eboard (universe) "[apport]  eboard crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87677
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87678 in multi-gnome-terminal (universe) "Please sync multi-gnome-terminal (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87678
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87679 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87679
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87656 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87656
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87680 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim-url-handler crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87680
[11:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87682 in newpki-server (universe) "Please sync newpki-server (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87682
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87683 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes with no apparently reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87683
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87684 in amule (universe) "cpu 100%" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87684