[09:17] <dannym> yggdrasil: security = user ?
[09:17] <ROBOd> where could i get an updated kernel?
[09:18] <yggdrasil> jbzz yes
[09:18] <yggdrasil> should i pastebin my conf
[09:18] <eugman> is there any reason I should have 3 or more kernel images at any one time?
[09:18] <yggdrasil> i guese huh
[09:18] <Seveas> b_9, the persistance feature is not even a week old...
[09:18] <dannym> yggdrasil: did smbpasswd and added a real user ?
[09:18] <dannym> yggdrasil: did create a unix user for the windows user that connects?
[09:18] <jouni__m> ROBOd use synaptic and search for linux-image
[09:19] <yggdrasil> it just connected without asking for a user
[09:19] <Seveas> eugman, not really
[09:19] <eugman> So should I get rid of the oldest one?
[09:19] <ROBOd> jouni__m: i got the latest updates
[09:19] <jbzz> yggdrasil:  Is your setting    security = uesr?
[09:20] <jbzz> yggdrasil:  security = user     ?
[09:20] <yggdrasil> gonan check it right now
[09:20] <yggdrasil> security = user
[09:21] <dannym> yggdrasil: did you do smbpasswd -a and added a real user ?
[09:21] <yggdrasil> uh no
[09:21] <dannym> yggdrasil: not good ;)
[09:21] <yggdrasil> oh
[09:21] <yggdrasil> yea its gotten kind of messy at this point.
[09:21] <yggdrasil> how is it connecting in i wonder ?public=yes ?
[09:22] <dannym> yggdrasil: "guest ok" is probably "yes", which means, whenever anything at all goes wrong (like, server burning), it will just degrade client to guest-only and carry on
[09:22] <dannym> yggdrasil: turn it off ;)
[09:22] <yggdrasil> yes i will rignt now
[09:23] <j3di> anyone understand netatlak?
[09:23] <j3di> netatalk
[09:23] <djjason> How can I assign a name to my external drive so that it mounts as somename instead of "60GB Volume"
[09:23] <patcom> hello.. I'm running APACHE2 on ubuntu and some how my php sendmail doesn t work ???
[09:24] <patcom> I installed postfix
[09:24] <patcom> but maybe it is not good configured
[09:24] <patcom> some one have an idear
[09:24] <patcom> ?
[09:24] <yggdrasil> dannya guest ok is not on but i have map to guest = bad user ??
[09:24] <Seveas> patcom, does the attempt to send the mail appear in your postfix log?
[09:24] <dannym> patcom: try calling sendmail manually to see what it has to say
[09:24] <blekos> hello again
[09:25] <dannym> patcom: run sendmail -q to actually get it to send stuff out
[09:25] <blekos> could someone tell me how i can make a long command small? e.g instead of xxxxxxxxx 2 type a1
[09:25] <dannym> patcom: check /var/log/mail.log for errors
[09:26] <dannym> patcom: and, beware of procmail :)
[09:26] <meisam> when im writting the name of file wants to be compiled, is that case sensitive
[09:26] <meisam> ?
[09:26] <dannym> yggdrasil: hmmm
[09:26] <meisam> ing++
[09:26] <dannym> yggdrasil: put "map to guest = Never" instead
[09:26] <yggdrasil> ok
[09:27] <dannym> meisam: yes, anything in unix is case sensitive because it was written when cpu power was about zero and nobody has bothered fixing it since :)
[09:27] <secureboot> is there work going into replacing synaptic?  and if so, what's the name of the replacement?
[09:27] <dannym> meisam: (some users even have be conditioned to like case sensitiveness by now - weird)
[09:28] <czr> dannym, fixing it is not simple btw
[09:28] <VR^> hi all, what can i use to convert flac to mp3 ?
[09:28] <dannym> czr: I know because I tried
[09:28] <dannym> czr: ;)
[09:28] <czr> dannym, and putting locale-based policies into kernel is not a good idea :-)
[09:28] <meisam> the name is Unsaved Document 1 what is the command
[09:28] <meisam> ?
[09:28] <yggdrasil> dannym still no go
[09:28] <czr> dannym, I feel your pain :-)
[09:28] <Seveas> meisam, read that tutorial
[09:28] <thisplayer> are the forums down?
[09:28] <Seveas> this channel is for Ubuntu support, not beginner programming help
[09:29] <meisam> sorry seveas
[09:29] <meisam> allright
[09:29] <meisam> Damned me...!
[09:29] <meisam> bye
[09:30] <yggdrasil> its still connecting without asking for a pass
[09:30] <dannym> yggdrasil: is the client windows?
[09:30] <yggdrasil> yar
[09:30] <yggdrasil> tis
[09:30] <dannym> yggdrasil: that's normal, it just tells the password to everyone without asking the user for permission
[09:31] <majd> hey
[09:31] <majd> what's the best p2p program to use?
[09:31] <yggdrasil> well its a username that isnt in the list
[09:31] <dannym> yggdrasil: (it only asks you when the server won't accept it then)
[09:31] <yggdrasil> you know it should ask
[09:31] <dannym> yggdrasil: what windows version=?
[09:31] <yggdrasil> xp
[09:31] <dannym> home or pro ?
[09:31] <yggdrasil> hehe uh niether
[09:31] <yggdrasil> probobly pro
[09:31] <yggdrasil> its some hacked up version
[09:31] <dannym> yggdrasil: hmm, it should ask then...
[09:31] <yggdrasil> xp lite
[09:32] <yggdrasil> yea
[09:32] <yggdrasil> hmmm
[09:32] <dannym> yggdrasil: you could try re-logging in on the client
[09:32] <dannym> yggdrasil: (the whole session, not just the network thing)
[09:32] <yggdrasil> yea
[09:32] <dannym> (I have no idea what that's called on windows )
[09:32] <yggdrasil> let me see
[09:32] <yggdrasil> logo ff i think
[09:33] <jbzz> yggdrasil:  It should try to connect with the current user and password.  If it fails it should prompt the user for a different combination.
[09:33] <cheloo> why does mysql depends on postfix ?
[09:33] <cheloo> i run sudo apt-get install mysql-client mysql-server
[09:33] <majd> what's the best p2p program to use?
[09:33] <yggdrasil> dannym i got an old mac clone . its a starmax and i got linux up and runnin and im planning on making it just a network storage thing  so thats what im doing now
[09:33] <yggdrasil> brb
[09:33] <dannym> cheloo: probably a bug, or at least almost :)
[09:33] <cheloo> and The following extra packages will be installed:
[09:33] <cheloo>   mailx postfix
[09:33] <majd> amule sucks butt
[09:33] <majd> it's so slow
[09:33] <dannym> cheloo: (I'd report it)
[09:33] <thisplayer> is anybody else able to connect to the ubuntuforums..?
[09:33] <crimsun> cheloo: it generates mail, so it needs a mail delivery agent
[09:34] <slewis> are dapper and drake different ubuntu products or are they upgrades like osx tiger and jaguar
[09:34] <dannym> yggdrasil: I see :) ok :)
[09:34] <cheloo> crimsun whos  generates mail ? mysql ?
[09:34] <cheloo> crimsun its the fisr time i heard this man :))
[09:34] <crimsun> !dapper
[09:34] <ubotu> somebody said dapper was The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[09:34] <yggdrasil> im gonna pastebing my conf i think theres somethign elese here
[09:34] <dannym> crimsun: yeah, but why does it need a specific mail delivery agent ;)
[09:35] <cheloo> crimsun if i want to install mysql then it should only install mysql server not postfix
[09:35] <cheloo> dannym so what is it ?
[09:35] <yggdrasil> dannym loggin off and back on did it
[09:35] <yggdrasil> thanks
[09:35] <dannym> cheloo: bug
[09:35] <dannym> yggdrasil: nice :)
[09:35] <cheloo> such a shit
[09:35] <majd> what's the best p2p program to use?
[09:35] <yggdrasil> wierd though
[09:36] <slewis> iss dapper going to be the successor to breezer?
[09:36] <dannym> cheloo: maybe it shuts up when it finds any other mail delivery agent, try installing another first ?
[09:37] <yggdrasil> pretty awesome though i got that old mac junk firing on all 8 cylinders .... ssh web ftp and smb servers on it... using fluxbox for desktop.
[09:37] <crimsun> dannym: it doesn't.
[09:37] <crimsun> dannym: the only reason it pulls in postfix is because mailx, a dependency of mysql-server-5.0, lists postfix /first/ in the Depends alternates
[09:38] <yggdrasil> thanks guys  u to jbzz
[09:38] <crimsun> dannym: so yes, having another package that Provides mail-transport-agent meets that requirement
[09:38] <yggdrasil> whats a cmd in terminal to see how much space i have ?
[09:38] <_jason> yggdrasil: df
[09:38] <dannym> crimsun: ok :)
[09:38] <dannym> yggdrasil: df
[09:38] <yggdrasil> thanks i was doing du
[09:38] <yggdrasil> haha
[09:39] <yggdrasil> whatever the hell that was
[09:39] <meisam> dannym where should i go for beginner questions in ubuntu, not to make the  guys laugh at me, coz they think its the first time im even using the computer...
[09:39] <lotusleaf> how long have the forums been down today? baby jesus cries!
[09:39] <_jason> yggdrasil: man du
[09:39] <dannym> yggdrasil: how much space is used per folder :)
[09:39] <slewis> does an application like windows terminal services exist for ubuntu?
[09:39] <dannym> slewis: X ?
[09:39] <dannym> slewis: vnc ?
[09:39] <yggdrasil> hahh
[09:39] <yggdrasil> i love it
[09:39] <_jason> yggdrasil: or even faster 'whatis du'
[09:39] <yggdrasil> i loe it
[09:39] <dannym> slewis: www.ltsp.org ?
[09:39] <slewis> that is not cluncky and laggy
[09:40] <dannym> slewis: no idea then ;)
[09:40] <slewis> terminal services is very smooth, feels like you are working locally
[09:40] <jbzz> du
[09:40] <slewis> anything like in the linux world?
[09:40] <yggdrasil> so you could do like a grep du > 30000 ? to see any folder over 30 meg ?
[09:40] <yggdrasil> or how would that work
[09:41] <dannym> meisam: I don't know...
[09:41] <ui> i changed to kde but i still got the  gnome programs how do i delete them?
[09:41] <dannym> meisam: as for programming stuff, that is mostly not distribution specific so I'd say maybe #unix, #c, #linux, ?
[09:42] <meisam> here really people get mad when someone asks beginner questions here...
[09:42] <dannym> meisam: back in the old days I read Fidonet a lot ...
[09:42] <dannym> meisam: (now Usenet)
[09:42] <dannym> meisam: but that was 12 years ago :)
[09:42] <majd> what's the best p2p program to use?
[09:42] <meisam> how old r u? all right...thankssssss
[09:43] <meisam> atleast u r answreing back
[09:43] <DShepherd> majd, limewire is nice.. I dont know if its the best
[09:43] <meisam> thanks dannym
[09:43] <majd> DShepherd, i installed amule, but it's horrible
[09:43] <DShepherd> majd, ok
[09:43] <majd> limewire isn't available through synaptic :(
[09:44] <dannym> meisam: 24 :)
[09:44] <dannym> meisam: no problem
[09:44] <ui> i changed to kde but i still got the  gnome programs how do i delete them?
[09:44] <ui> :(
[09:44] <DShepherd> majd, check out the site
[09:45] <slewis> ltsp is a distribution. i gues ubuntu doesn't have a terminal services?
[09:45] <majd> i downloaded the version for "other" OS's....
[09:45] <gsnedders> how easy is it to get ubuntu running in 64-bit SMP on PPC?
[09:46] <dannym> ui: probably needs some heavy tinkering with scripts
[09:46] <yggdrasil> ui i would just go to synaptic and do a search for gnome
[09:46] <yggdrasil> and then uncheck the ones you dont want installed ones will be green.
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> What's the command for generating a list of all files in a directory recursively?
[09:47] <dannym> tonyyarusso: find
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Do I need to pass any options to it?
[09:48] <dannym> tonyyarusso: depends, usually you get all files and directories
[09:48] <dannym> tonyyarusso: just the files, find -type f
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Okay.
[09:49] <bipolar> Has anyone ever thought of making ubuntu's X server fall back to the vesa frame buffer driver if anything goes wrong?
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> dannym: All right, now expanding to that to a potential use, I have a bunch of music, and I want to be able to play it with mplayer, from command line.
[09:50] <majd> DShepherd, what java package do i need to run limewire?
[09:50] <majd> i downloaded the javacc package but it didn't do it
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Can I do something like mplayer -shuffle -playlist < find /music ?
[09:50] <kosmo> must go today 2 alienware laptops price 550 each including shippin case and wireless router, or 1 alienware desktop at 550 including shipping, monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse and of course the tower. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or yahoo at mcsltd2 if interested and want to buy
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> You just have to wonder about computers that "must go today"...Can you say STOLEN?
[09:52] <DShepherd> majd, you can get java from restricted formts
[09:52] <DShepherd> formats.
[09:52] <DShepherd> ubotu tell majd about restrictedformats
[09:52] <dannym> tonyyarusso: try find /music -type f |mplayer -shuffle -playlist /dev/stdin
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> dannym: What's /dev/stdin?
[09:53] <dannym> tonyyarusso: special file that is the same as the standard input of the process that opens it
[09:53] <dannym> tonyyarusso: weird workaround for apps that don't support "-" (maybe mplayer does though)
[09:54] <dannym> tonyyarusso: i.e. find /music -type f |mplayer -shuffle -playlist -
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Error while parsing playlist; empty playlist.
[09:54] <dannym> tonyyarusso: ok, then you need a tempfile :)
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> dannym: So I just need to do the two separately.
[09:54] <dannym> tonyyarusso: probably a bug in mplayer though (or at least not cute)
[09:54] <dannym> tonyyarusso: yeah
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> dannym: All right, I can do that.
[09:56] <ReverendNathan> Hey, I'm getting tired of Azureus of being such a resource hog. What are other good all-in-one torrent clients like it?
[09:56] <ReverendNathan> I'm trying KTorrent now...
[09:56] <yggdrasil> dannym you nkow whats strange now that i browse from my windows computer none of the other windows computers are showing up.... !!!
[09:56] <ReverendNathan> ...but this download isn't starting!
[09:56] <dukebody> i can't play midi sound files i followed ubuntu guides but i hear no sound what could it be?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Never mind.  It does work.  I had a typo.
[09:56] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Okay, can you explain what the - or /dev/stdin is doing, so I understand how to use it for the future?
[09:57] <ReverendNathan> I think the program (Timidi?) runs through terminal
[09:57] <dukebody> yes RemoteViewer i started it
[09:58] <ReverendNathan> I got Windows programs that use midi to work through wine, but never figured that out for linux.
[09:58] <majd> DShepherd, it says it can't find all the packages it said to get in the wiki :(
[09:58] <yggdrasil> ok anyway bbl
[09:58] <dukebody> me too ReverendNathan
[09:58] <dukebody> i needed to use a program like guitar pro
[09:59] <ReverendNathan> I used TabIt through wine, and it works pretty damn solid.
[09:59] <ReverendNathan> I don't know if you've used Tabit, but you can check out the trial
[09:59] <ReverendNathan> http://www.tabit.net/
[09:59] <kosmo> must go today 2 alienware laptops price 550 each including shippin case and wireless router, or 1 alienware desktop at 550 including shipping, monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse and of course the tower. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or yahoo at mcsltd2 if interested and want to buy
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> dannym: And why wouldn't my < work for that?  (Don't really understand those yet either.)
[09:59] <dannym> tonyyarusso: it is a placeholder where a filename is expected when you dont want to supply one
[10:00] <dannym> tonyyarusso: "<" reads from a file
[10:00] <dannym> tonyyarusso: ">" writes to a file
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> dannym: And that makes it use the file from the previous part before the pipe?
[10:00] <dannym> tonyyarusso: "|" connects two programs
[10:00] <dannym> tonyyarusso: programs that expect a filename can be given "-" to make it take the data from the other program anyways
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> dannym: So I probably could have flipped it around, and have it do the same thing.  i.e., use the - with <.
[10:01] <dannym> tonyyarusso: no, "<" and ">" are for writing/reading files
[10:01] <dannym> tonyyarusso: "|" is for inter process communication
[10:01] <La_PaRCa> hey guys. How can I connect to a wireless network thats not broadcasting its ssid?
[10:01] <dannym> tonyyarusso: so if you want them to talk to each other, use "|" ;)
[10:01] <millicent> Can anyone help me mount my cd drive.
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Got it.
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Going on five months, and still amused at how much can be done on command line.
[10:03] <millicent> Hello?
[10:03] <millicent> Sorry this is my first time using Xchat.
[10:03] <majd> hey guys
[10:03] <majd> i get this error:
[10:03] <majd> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[10:03] <dannym> millicent: hi... try mount /media/cdrom
[10:04] <majd> whenever itry to install j2re
[10:04] <majd> why is it/
[10:04] <majd> i have multiverse repos enabled
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> Hi millicent.
[10:04] <pkern> majd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormat
[10:04] <millicent> mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[10:04] <pkern> majd: It is not packaged
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> majd: 1.5 is only available packaged from PLF.
[10:05] <majd> should i try 1.4?
[10:05] <pkern> majd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 that is.
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> majd: Works fine for most.
[10:05] <pkern> majd: Well, it is reasonably easy to get a 1.5 package following the step-by-step instructions.
[10:05] <majd> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:05] <majd> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:05] <majd> is only available from another source
[10:05] <majd> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[10:05] <majd> oops
[10:05] <pkern> majd: Depends on what you do. Java 5 has many new features, but you'll lose backwards compatibility to 1.4 ;)
[10:05] <majd> sorry for 4 lines, thought it would paste in 2
[10:05] <majd> i just want to run limewire
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> millicent: hdd?  With the way things are named that would be your fourth hard disk.  Is that what you mean?  If not, try hda.
[10:06] <pkern> majd: Are you on amd64?
[10:06] <majd> no i'm on pentium 4
[10:06] <Stormx2> majd: Got universe and multiverse enabled?
[10:06] <majd> Stormx2, yeah, i believe so
[10:06] <millicent> I do believe there HDD and HDC
[10:07] <Stormx2> majd: Check ;-)
[10:07] <pkern> majd: Well, it's in multiverse then. Try apt-cache policy j2re1.4 -- If it isn't listed, the repositories are not enabled.
[10:07] <majd> i got to Settings > Repositeries
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> millicent: On what basis do you believe that?
[10:07] <pkern> majd: And you have to run apt-get update after you change the repositories.
[10:07] <decaf> majd: you can use "java-package". that package includes a script called "make-jpkg". use it to make packages from sun's jre.bin file
[10:07] <infoB> hi all! I have problem with configuring serial mouse to work with Gnome... What to do???
[10:07] <NaTeek> i'm looking for a synctool to sync my mobil and kontakt from kde. do you know one?
[10:07] <majd> apt-cache policy j2re1.4
[10:07] <Sh4d0x> eurhm does someone know a ubuntu program to burn images on cd  or dvd's?
[10:07] <majd> oops
[10:08] <majd> j2re1.4:
[10:08] <majd>   Installed: (none)
[10:08] <majd>   Candidate: (none)
[10:08] <majd>   Version table:
[10:08] <jbzz> millicent:  you are trying toi mount your cdrom ... correct?
[10:08] <Stormx2> majd: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <millicent> Disk Manager says they are
[10:08] <millicent> Yes I am.
[10:08] <wundbread> anyone know how to configure wpa_supplicant?  I get an error when running it on my ipw2200
[10:08] <majd> Stormx2, and look under?
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> jbzz, millicent: Okay, missed that.
[10:09] <majd> bash: etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory
[10:09] <jariep1_> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[10:09] <millicent> Disk Manager says they are
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> millicent: Mine's /dev/cdrom0
[10:09] <jbzz>  did you try the command       mount  /media/cdrom   as mentioned above?
[10:09] <millicent> Disk manager says my hardrive is hda and then my DVD burner is HDC and combo drive is HDD
[10:10] <jariep1_> can anybody reach ubuntuforums.org?
[10:10] <mwe> jariep1_: I can't connect at least
[10:10] <jariep1_> ok
[10:10] <Stormx2> jariep1_: seems so.
[10:10] <Knelix2> Are the Ubuntu forums down?
[10:10] <Stormx2> majd: no, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> millicent: But if you look in /dev, those don't exist?
[10:10] <millicent> hang on lemmie check
[10:10] <jariep1_> Knelix2 it seems so
[10:11] <majd> majd@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <majd> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[10:11] <Knelix2> Hmm. Darn. I wanted to check how to modift resolution/refresh rates again.
[10:11] <majd> w/o sudo i get premission denied
[10:11] <millicent> what am I looking for in the /dev?
[10:11] <jariep1_> i got a page load but it was really slow
[10:11] <mwe> majd: it's not a command
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> majd: You need to give it an editor to use.
[10:11] <jariep1_> then afterward it wouldn't work
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> majd: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> millicent: The device names it claims them to be.
[10:12] <Knelix2> Where is that X config file located?
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> Knelix2: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:12] <mikecrowe> Hi folks, my Breezy has some of it's X fonts screwed up.  All my GTK programs are looking weird.  Where's a good place to start to reinstall or reconfigure the fonts I have?  I've checked my xorg.conf and the font paths are right.
[10:13] <Stormx2> majd: You need an app to open it with. use gedit
[10:13] <Knelix2> tonyyarusso, thanks.
[10:13] <Yokalosh> what is the username and password that windows asks for when i try to access my network shares?
[10:13] <majd> Stormx2, ok, i opened it, now what?
[10:13] <jariep1_> anybody setup an email server with postfix and dyndns?
[10:13] <majd> i'm confused
[10:13] <Stormx2> !easysource
[10:13] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:13] <Stormx2> ^ use that
[10:13] <mwe> mikecrowe: gtk1 or gtk2?
[10:13] <jbzz> millicent:  can you try      ls  /hdc1    and see if you get a list of filenames?
[10:14] <mikecrowe> Specifically gtk1, but I haven't truly checked gtk2
[10:14] <millicent> im not sure... im kinda new at this, there are hda hda1 hda2 hda3 hda5
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> majd: The command you need to tell it is the text editor of your choice.  Could be gedit, nano, whatever.  Put that between sudo and the filepath.
[10:14] <jbzz> millicent:   that is      h d c   and then a figure 1 (one)
[10:14] <majd> yeah i did
[10:14] <majd> and i opened it
[10:14] <majd> but i don't know what to do in it :(
[10:14] <millicent> says unknow file or directory
[10:14] <mwe> mikecrowe: install gtk-theme-switch and run the 'switch' program and choose a font
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> millicent: The numbered parts of hda are partitions on that disk.
[10:14] <Stormx2> majd: Use easysource
[10:15] <Yokalosh> anyone? why does windows ask for a password to access my ubuntu network shares?
[10:15] <Stormx2> majd: That'll generate the text you need to put in there
[10:15] <millicent> ok
[10:15] <mwe> mikecrowe: you can't use ttf fonts though
[10:15] <mikecrowe> mwe: I did switch themes.  that doesn't change the fonts?
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> majd: See !sources and !easysource for instructions for that.
[10:15] <mwe> mikecrowe: click the + button to get to the fonts
[10:15] <Stormx2> !easysource
[10:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> majd: As well as !multisource
[10:15] <Stormx2> ^ That be what you need
[10:15] <Bizzeh> hey, i got ubuntu amd64 installed, but, it refuses to let me bring up X
[10:15] <jbzz> millicent:   those are partitions on your first hard drive     [hard drive]    [a]     [partition#]
[10:15] <Marlun> Whats the vi command for starting on a new document?
[10:16] <jcuse> I try to Edit my xorg.conf file and it says Im now the owner so I cant edit it, how do I login as the owner?
[10:16] <millicent> Ok I got that.
[10:16] <mwe> mikecrowe: with gtk1 you can only limit the pain. it looks ugly as it can't use ttf fonts
[10:16] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: It hasn't go an entry for multisource :P
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: Open it with sudo.
[10:16] <jbzz> millicent:   what type of disk do you have in yor cdrom drive?  Music?
[10:16] <jcuse> How?
[10:16] <millicent> Blank
[10:16] <timfrost> Marlun, if a file doesn't exist, it will be created by vi filename
[10:16] <Bizzeh> i get (EE) No devices detected. fatal error: no screens found
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: Whoops.  That would be multiverse, of course.  Really, I haven't completely lost it...yet.  ;)
[10:17] <Bizzeh> is there any text based web client that comes with default ubuntu?
[10:17] <mwe> Bizzeh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[10:17] <jbzz> millicent:   are you trying to burn a cdrom?
[10:17] <jcuse> tonyyarusso: how do I open it with sudo?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> Bizzeh: I don't know, but many are in the Ubuntu repos.
[10:18] <Marlun> timfrost: but I mean if I'm allready in vi.
[10:18] <Ocean^> okay when booting and its going through the list of things its setting up like Alsa, LVM, PCMCIA  for some reason my Network Fails...   How would I go about fixing this ?
[10:18] <Bizzeh> my gfx card is at PCI:5:0:0 (pci-e), is that any sort of problem?
[10:19] <jcuse> tonyyarusso: the document is blank when i open it sudo
[10:19] <millicent_> Sorry the power went out. :(
[10:19] <millicent_> Ok its a blank disk I have in my cd drive
[10:19] <jbzz> millicent:   hang tough
[10:19] <mikecrowe> mwe:  That fixed GTK.  Is there a similar application for QT?
[10:19] <Ocean^> Bizzeh, for text base webclient try "lynx"
[10:19] <b_9> Will someone point me to a link that will show me how to use ssh tunnelling to use my home computer web access to surf the web from work?
[10:19] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: tried, its not there
[10:19] <Ocean^> Bizzeh, apt-get install lynx
[10:19] <Bizzeh> its just took me a hour to get on irc cos the network wont route properly
[10:20] <timfrost> Marlun, :e newfile
[10:20] <millicent_> and its just now that my CD drives havent worked, they have been working fine up untill a day or so now.
[10:20] <Bizzeh> because its refusing to give me my usual ip
[10:20] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: Hmm. Maybe I should make a generator for the grub list ;-) For ubuntu stuff ;-)
[10:20] <Marlun> timfrost: thanks
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: You sure you don't have a typo in the filepath?  (And are using Xorg, not XFree86?)
[10:20] <jcuse> I got it now
[10:20] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: are you useing dhcp?  if so try useing static
[10:20] <jcuse> tonyyarusso: i got it thanks
[10:21] <visit0r> how come  libasound2 is still at version 1.0.9 for i386? anyone knows the reason for this?
[10:21] <visit0r> amd64 and powerpc already have 1.0.10...
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: For the grub list?  what do you mean?
[10:21] <MarcN> b_9: http://www.google.com/search?q=ssh+tunnel+corporate+pierce+firewalls
[10:21] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: Nevermind actually. There are apps for that
[10:21] <jbzz> millicent:  can you do anything with the drive?   listen to music, or anything at all?
[10:22] <Bizzeh> just tried reconfiguring X, still doesnt work
[10:22] <quad_> HELP: How do I view files with the nautilus file explorer, instead of the default one, as standard??
[10:22] <Ocean^> Bizzeh:  whats the problem ?
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: Like grub itself, no?
[10:22] <Ocean^> Bizzeh:  And what video card do you have ?
[10:22] <wundbread> wpa_supplicant on ipw2200 anyone?
[10:22] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: i cant remember how to set gateway and dns in linux
[10:22] <Bizzeh> pci-e radeon x700
[10:22] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: Wait, not that.
[10:22] <Ocean^> Bizzeh:  okay dns is /etc/resolv.conf
[10:22] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: i meant fstab
[10:23] <Ocean^> russ@Aqualung:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:23] <Ocean^> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:23] <Ocean^> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:23] <Ocean^> thats what mine looks like
[10:23] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: refuses to let me write to it
[10:23] <Bizzeh> even under sudo
[10:23] <Stormx2> letz h4x t3h IPz
[10:23] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: is ur hard drive mounted read-only ?
[10:23] <Stormx2> Bizzeh: What filesystem?
[10:23] <Bizzeh> sudo echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> /etc/resolv.conf doesnt work
[10:24] <Bizzeh> default ubuntu amd64 install
[10:24] <b_9> thanks MarcN
[10:24] <Bizzeh> so, ext3, and no
[10:24] <mwe> blekos: wrong command
[10:24] <Aeeee> lo all
[10:24] <mwe> Bizzeh: wrong command
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: Ah, makes much more sense now.  What is the name of the thing for that anyway?
[10:24] <Ocean^> bizzeh that wotn work
[10:24] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: Can't remember o.O
[10:25] <Bizzeh> how do i make ubuntu remember my wireless settings too
[10:25] <Stormx2> fstab is probably "Filesystem Table"
[10:25] <Bizzeh> like my essid and enc key
[10:25] <Stormx2> !wireless
[10:25] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:25] <Aeeee> has anyone had any luck getting latest ati proprietry fglrx driver working in breezy?
[10:25] <Stormx2> ;-)
[10:25] <mwe> Bizzeh: also <IP_ADDRESS> is probably not your nameserver
[10:25] <Ocean^> echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" > /etc/resolv.conf
[10:25] <Bizzeh> mwe: yes it is
[10:25] <mwe> Bizzeh: it's your gateway
[10:25] <Bizzeh> my router is my nameserver too
[10:25] <mwe> Bizzeh: different thing
[10:25] <Bizzeh> it forwards dns for me
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: Just installed it yesterday.  Increased my framerate tenfold.
[10:26] <mwe> Bizzeh: well in that case just enter the correct command
[10:26] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" > /tmp/resolv.conf   try that...
[10:26] <meisam> when i download sth from internet where can i see my download?
[10:26] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: that works fine
[10:26] <Ocean^> okay,  ur resolvf.conf should be fine
[10:26] <mwe> Bizzeh: echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>| sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: The one from the repos, not ati's site.
[10:27] <Bizzeh> how do i set my gateway then?
[10:27] <Ocean^> now try route -add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:27] <Aeeee> tonyyarusso, mine installs ok, then doesnt enable hardware acceration
[10:27] <mwe> Bizzeh: or just sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf then add it by hand
[10:27] <leku-> hi
[10:27] <taoscotch> i changed cdrom drives on my desktop and now the computer boots but it odesn't recognize the hard drive or the cdrom drive
[10:27] <Knelix> Ok, so I screwed up my xorg.config. Now how can I edit it in the terminal so I can get X back up?
[10:27] <Aeeee> i may need to downgrade then
[10:28] <Bizzeh> SIOCADDRT: File Exits << i get that after the add
[10:28] <mwe> Knelix: you made a backup first, of course, right?
[10:28] <leku-> i just installed kubuntu and everything is up and running fine, but I see Xorg hogging a lot of CPU, as well as firefox
[10:28] <leku-> my load average when I'm using firefox goes up to 1.99
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: Did you get through all of the steps of installation as outlined on the wiki, or just installing the package?
[10:28] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: hmm let me look up the command hold on.
[10:28] <Knelix> mwe: I did somewhere. But, I know the problem. I just need to edit it.
[10:29] <mwe> Knelix: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> What scale are load averages on anyway?
[10:29] <Knelix> mwe: Thanks. :-)
[10:29] <leku-> 1-100
[10:29] <Aeeee> followed wiki to create packages
[10:29] <leku-> i dunno
[10:29] <Ocean^> route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:29] <Ocean^> try that
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> leku-: Ah.
[10:29] <leku-> 0-100
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: Create packages?
[10:29] <Aeeee> it can create .debs
[10:29] <leku-> sucks that I just dropped gentoo for this
[10:29] <F43RY> hi all
[10:30] <taoscotch> anybody here know about hardware problems related to changing cdroms
[10:30] <leku-> my gentoo laptop was lightspeed..granted firefox sucked
[10:30] <Bizzeh> firefox sucks in general
[10:30] <Bizzeh> not just on gentoo
[10:30] <leku-> just doesn't make sense to me why I can't have a fast machine anymore
[10:30] <leku-> i know
[10:30] <leku-> it leaks memory on every box I put it on
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: You must have gotten the ones from the ATI site then, I assume?
[10:30] <leku-> too bad I don't have any choice but ot use it though
[10:30] <Aeeee> tonyyarusso, yes
[10:30] <leku-> god
[10:30] <leku-> maybe it's all this KDE crap I'm running
[10:31] <leku-> I guess before I just had fluxbox
[10:31] <Bizzeh> leku-: i was thinkin gentoo, since i got a amd64 x2 4200, i just still cant be bothered with all the compiling, its not so much the time it takes, its that it has to take that time
[10:31] <Marlun> I think I clicked CTRL+C while in vi, and it seemed to close down, but now when I try to open the file in vi again it says it's allready open, how can I get back to it?
[10:31] <taoscotch> need help bad with old AST Advantage 625 desktop
[10:31] <leku-> true true.. once it is done though
[10:31] <bobbyd> hi
[10:31] <ryanakca> hmmm... is it just me or are the ubuntuforums down?
[10:31] <leku-> i can't evne say for sure if i was faster because of gentoo or not
[10:31] <mwe> it's down
[10:31] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:31] <Ocean^> try that
[10:31] <leku-> thinking about it, i don't know if it mattered.. right now it seems slow probably because before I didn't run all this kde nonsense
[10:31] <bipolar> I really have trouble understanding it when people complain abou this and that being crap when I use it every day and never have any problems or performance issues with it. Maybe I'm just lucky.
[10:32] <bobbyd> is it possible to change the default drag and drop behaviour to move instead of copy (mainly in text editors) ?
[10:32] <F43RY> Can someone help me with this error I get from dmesg: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it know
[10:32] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: same error
[10:32] <leku-> the problem is now I kind of like this KDE business, it's just extremely unusable if it's not fast
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: How much farther ahead is that version number, and do you need it?
[10:32] <leku-> yeah my box isn't even doing anything right now
[10:32] <leku-> load avg 1.29
[10:32] <bobbyd> leku-, what speed is your machine?
[10:32] <Bizzeh> i need to get the ati drivers from their site
[10:32] <Bizzeh> but
[10:32] <Marlun> Found out that I stopped a job, if I write "jobs" I can see "[1] + Stopped vi file.cpp", but how do I start it again?
[10:32] <leku-> Xorg and xmms the culprits
[10:33] <bipolar> leku-: I used to use gnome on brezzy. When I switched to kde 3.5 is was night and day. Kde is so much faster at everything.
[10:33] <Bizzeh> i need a working web client first
[10:33] <leku-> ooh
[10:33] <leku-> well
[10:33] <soundray> F43RY, as long as your keys do what you want them to do, I wouldn't worry about this message.
[10:33] <leku-> my box is a pentium m 1300mhz according to /proc/cpuinfo
[10:33] <leku-> 1183.74 bogomips
[10:33] <leku-> but it also says it's only running at 598.110
[10:33] <Bizzeh> and apt-get wont let me get lynx
[10:33] <leku-> something clocked this thing down
[10:33] <leku-> w-t-f mate
[10:33] <timfrost> Marlun, fg
[10:34] <Bizzeh> sudo apt-get install lynx
[10:34] <Bizzeh> says i cant have it
[10:34] <leku-> is this linux, or something in my BIOS?
[10:34] <F43RY> keyboard is correctly configured. The errors come up only when I type arrows!!!
[10:34] <Marlun> timfrost: hehe thanks, what does it stand for? no man page about it.
[10:34] <mwe> Bizzeh: it says that. "You can't have lynx"?
[10:34] <F43RY> I tried unsuccessfully lots configurations
[10:35] <deg0ba> anyone know the keyword to install bitchx using apt-get?
[10:35] <timfrost> Marlun, you used bash job control (CTRL-Z).  fg = "bring to foreground"
[10:35] <bipolar> leku-: sounds like speedstep
[10:35] <soundray> F43RY, same here on my laptop. Apparently the keys send some code in addition to what is standard. But there isn't really a cause for concern.
[10:35] <leku-> how do I disiable?
[10:35] <soundray> F43RY, at least in my experience.
[10:35] <Marlun> timfrost: ah, ok :)
[10:35] <leku-> deg0ba: apt-cache search bitchx
[10:35] <bipolar> leku-: it will speed up when it needs too. you won't gain any performance
[10:35] <Bizzeh> mwe: lynx isnt there but it is refaired to by another package, lynx has no instalation candidates
[10:35] <leku-> forget that noise
[10:35] <leku-> I want to always have it clocked at the same speed
[10:36] <Sh4d0x> hi soundray :D, i heard you helped xeon out, thnx  xXx
[10:36] <mwe> Bizzeh: you need to check your sources.list and sudo apt-get update
[10:36] <bipolar> leku-: is this a laptop?
[10:36] <soundray> Sh4d0x, I'm not sure he was happy. I told him to upgrade to breezy.
[10:36] <leku-> ya
[10:36] <leku-> dell d600 latitude
[10:36] <bipolar> leku-: same as the one I'm typeing this on.
[10:37] <leku-> nice
[10:37] <leku-> they're popular..
[10:37] <tim_> i have a dpt raid scsi card, my raid tower is detected on the card on boot up and ubuntu has my card listed in the devices but when i go into gparted i do not see the drives in the tower not sure where to go from here
[10:37] <Bizzeh> mwe: where is sources.list
[10:37] <bipolar> leku-: don't turn it off. it increase the chance of overheating. it was designed to use speedstep.
[10:37] <mwe> Bizzeh: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <F43RY> According to You, would I let it be?
[10:37] <leku-> I don't really care if it overheats
[10:37] <Sh4d0x> soundray, uhu was no problem he had my ubuntu 5.1 disc, he could upgrade the packages from the disc
[10:37] <mwe> Bizzeh: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <leku-> someone will buy me a new one
[10:37] <leku-> see, this thing is running at 500mhz, i want a 1.3ghz machine
[10:37] <leku-> like I asked for
[10:38] <leku-> i'll figure it out tho
[10:38] <leku-> thanks
[10:38] <Bizzeh> there we go
[10:38] <Bizzeh> updating
[10:38] <bipolar> leku-: sorry. I'm not going to help you destory your laptop. It will run at 1.3 when you run an app. when idle, it drops the frequency.
[10:38] <Bizzeh> and were installing
[10:38] <mwe> Bizzeh: then sudo apt-get install lynx when it's done
[10:38] <soundray> leku-, Ubuntu has installed itself in a sensible way on your machine. It will run at 1300 if it needs to. Just leave it as it is.
[10:38] <leku-> google will help though
[10:38] <leku-> fuck that
[10:38] <leku-> i want it maxed out
[10:38] <bipolar> leku-: don't be stupid
[10:38] <jean> is angry drunken dwarves a good game?
[10:38] <leku-> i'm not stupid
[10:39] <mwe> Bizzeh: I think you should already have w3m though
[10:39] <leku-> i want ot be in control of my computer
[10:39] <leku-> I run Linux for a reason.
[10:39] <bipolar> leku-: you are actiing stupid, and not listening to people you know more about it then you. leave it alone.
[10:39] <Telemachus> leku:  it won't overheat...its designed to save your power and will extend processor life
[10:39] <leku-> like I said
[10:39] <jean> lets not call people stupid...k?
[10:39] <bobbyd> leku-, attach the CPU directly to your brain with electrodes, then you can tell it exactly what you want it to do!
[10:39] <leku-> I do not care about those factors
[10:39] <Mountainman> anyone else unable to goto ubuntuforums.org?
[10:40] <soundray> leku-, now, you said you won't take any advice, you say you will get your help from Google, so can you clear the channel for support requests please.
[10:40] <bobbyd> Mountainman, yes, I'm unable on moral grounds
[10:40] <leku-> god
[10:40] <mwe> Mountainman: yeah
[10:40] <leku-> you guys are kind of riddiculous
[10:40] <Bizzeh> i forgot how bad lynx was
[10:40] <Telemachus> leku: disable it in the bios then
[10:40] <bobbyd> Mountainman, the spelling is really bad.
[10:40] <leku-> if someone ocmes in here and asks for help on how to format a drive
[10:40] <tim_> anyone have a clue why gparted wont see my scsi drvies?
[10:40] <leku-> do you not tell them?
[10:40] <leku-> obviously, telemachus
[10:40] <Mountainman> heh
[10:40] <bobbyd> leku-, no way!
[10:40] <leku-> i just don't know why peop-le think they should tell me what is best for my computer
[10:40] <bobbyd> leku-, that would be dangerous
[10:40] <bipolar> Bizzeh: "links" is a bit better ;)
[10:40] <Telemachus> leku: then whats the problem?
[10:40] <jean> might we be kind supportive types here in the ubuntu community
[10:41] <armosfighter> !wine
[10:41] <Bizzeh> EVERY page i hit, it complains about no security cert
[10:41] <bipolar> leku-: you just said you don't care if it overheats becouse someone will buy you a new one.
[10:41] <leku-> yes
[10:41] <bipolar> leku-: your parrents?
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> Bizzeh: elinks is a bit better.
[10:41] <leku-> my parents?????
[10:41] <mwe> or w3m
[10:41] <leku-> your tax money, bro
[10:41] <Bizzeh> as long as i can grab these ati drivers, im gonna be happy
[10:41] <bipolar> leku-: thats what you sound like, sorry.
[10:41] <Bizzeh> soon as i get my gui, i know where i am
[10:42] <leku-> no that's how you have made me out to be in your mind
[10:42] <leku-> i don't care if my ocmputer blows up
[10:42] <leku-> i will buy a new one
[10:42] <bobbyd> leku-, you missed a comma there
[10:42] <Bizzeh> i want the xorg 6.x drivers from ati dont i?
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> leku-: All the more reason not to tell you if it's our money.
[10:42] <soundray> leku-, I have to agree with bipolar, you do sound immature.
[10:42] <ernst_> could anybody give me a help on playing mp3s on linux pls?
[10:42] <leku-> 8(
[10:42] <soundray> !tell ernst_ about mp3
[10:43] <jean> lets not call people names...
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> !tell ernst_ about mp3
[10:43] <bipolar> leku-: I suguest you go to google and figure it out yourself. the system is working at it's peek effency and you will only hurt it by changing it.
[10:43] <hopeowl> I have a problem that is hard for me to resolve
[10:43] <jean> we can hurt peoples feelings this way
[10:43] <Bizzeh> how do i force lynx to wget a .sh from a site instead of displaying it
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Quickdraw, eh?
[10:43] <mwe> hopeowl: yes?
[10:43] <leku-> I won't hurt anything mr PC doctor
[10:43] <bobbyd> jean, woulnd't that be confusing?
[10:43] <soundray> tonyyarusso, ay?
[10:43] <leku-> thx for your concern tho
[10:44] <bobbyd> jean, should we use numbers instead?
[10:44] <opnsrc> What's the default video / media player for Ubuntu?
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Beat me to the !tell
[10:44] <jean> bobbyd: say what?
[10:44] <soundray> tonyyarusso, :)
[10:44] <leku-> opnsrc: I recommend xmms and vlc
[10:44] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:44] <bobbyd> jean, well, if we don't call people names, what should we call them?
[10:44] <opnsrc> wasn't there something else that comes with it?
[10:44] <Mountainman> im having probs with an ubuntu install that wont recognize the usb optical mouse
[10:44] <Mountainman> is this a known prob?
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> opnsrc: Totem's default.
[10:44] <leku-> i use kubuntu and a lot of programs come with it
[10:44] <Marlun> Bizzeh: Can't you press "d"?
[10:44] <jean> bobbyd: no we should not insult people with numbers or names
[10:44] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> opnsrc: But I don't think many use it.
[10:45] <bobbyd> Mountainman, my logitech one works fine
[10:45] <opnsrc> that's the one
[10:45] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:45] <bipolar> opnsrc: the totem media player is the default for video. rythembox is default for audio.
[10:45] <jean> bobbyd: no violence either
[10:45] <Mountainman> hmm
[10:45] <bobbyd> jean, how would one insult someone with a number?
[10:45] <bobbyd> 12!
[10:45] <soundray> jean, looking back over the conversation, I can't see any traces of namecalling.
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> bobbyd: It's like the joke about the prisoners...
[10:45] <glacious> is it wise to have Ubuntu on logical partitions?
[10:46] <opnsrc> Is Totem Gstreamer or Totem Xine better?
[10:46] <glacious> will it slow it down or anything else to degrade the experience?
[10:46] <mwe> glacious: why not
[10:46] <bobbyd> soundray, someone mentioned that they thought someone was immature, but I don't knoe of anyone being called that...
[10:46] <mwe> glacious: it's fine
[10:46] <hopeowl> I have three monitor configured in my Xorg.cong using Xinerama extension. One video card has a DVI + VGA output that is controlling 2 monitors. The other card has just one monitor connected. While the contigous desktop works fine - the display of the monitor that is connected to the DVI output usually has colour distortion after running for a while.
[10:46] <glacious> mwe: excellent, thank you :)
[10:46] <mwe> glacious: it wont be slow
[10:46] <Bizzeh> argh
[10:46] <opnsrc> (which one plays the most codecs)?
[10:46] <Bizzeh> managed to get them going
[10:46] <bipolar> opnsrc: gstreamer is more stable and complete. the xine one can play more formats with the open packages.
[10:46] <gumpish> Would there be problems using a Breezy x86(32-bit) install DVD on an Athlon 64 system with an ATI X800 XT PCIe card? (The install seems to complete but X can't start.)
[10:46] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:46] <deg0ba> what is apt-cache search supposed to output?
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> opnsrc: Gstreamer will be better in Dapper, but it seems Totem Xine is good at the moment.
[10:47] <bobbyd> hopeowl, are you sure it's not the monitor?
[10:47] <Ocean^> anything special have to be done to use webcam under mercury for ubuntu ?  I got the defalt Mercury package installed...  says it finds all the libarys just fine, but wont detect the webcam
[10:47] <mwe> I can't get gstreamer to work in kde. seems to be a general problem
[10:47] <soundray> bobbyd, all I can remember was someone saying that they *sounded* immature, a statement that in my view was geared at calling the person to reason, not to denounce them.
[10:47] <bobbyd> gumpish, maybe it's a driver problem?
[10:47] <Ocean^> mind you firefox see's it just fine
[10:47] <jean> deg0ba: a list of package names "apt-cache search [keyword] "
[10:47] <Ng> you lot should be arguing about whatever you are arguing about in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> deg0ba: Any packages that match what you told it to look for, just their names and short description.
[10:47] <Ng> or you could shoosh ;)
[10:48] <bobbyd> soundray, "immature" would be a silly name for someone anyway, bob is much nicer, and easy to type!
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> Ng has a good point.
[10:48] <jean> deg0ba: apt-get update to update the apt cache
[10:48] <soundray> Ng, you are so right. I promise this will be my last line on the issue in this channel.
[10:48] <mwe> bobbyd: what do you think about alexander?
[10:48] <glacious> reiserfs still the perfered FS for a desktop/workstation?
[10:49] <glacious> and use ext3 for /tmp?
[10:49] <Ng> glacious: that depends who you ask, I prefer ext3
[10:49] <jahshua> duckblur: you here ?
[10:49] <ardchoille> Is ubuntuforums.org down at the moment?
[10:49] <ccc_> anyone using gxiso (the gtk app for xbox xiso ftp transfers)?
[10:49] <mwe> ardchoille: yes
[10:49] <hopeowl> I have narrowed it down to a Xorg problem or perhaps even a driver problem. I think this because no such distortion happens in a similarly configured WindowsXp enviornment. Other Unix desktops such as XFCE and KDE also suffer the distortion.
[10:49] <decaf> glacious: not for me, once it ate my squid cache
[10:49] <jean> im using reiser, dont know why though
[10:49] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:50] <glacious> decaf: gross.  maybe i'll go back to ext3 for this install
[10:50] <bobbyd> mwe, that's quite nice, but not as easy to type
[10:50] <ardchoille> mwe: thank  you
[10:50] <Bizzeh> ccc_: im new here, but i think its safe to say people dont support piracy in here
[10:50] <jean> does ext3 do hard drive checks at boot?
[10:50] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, I do
[10:50] <ccc_> Bizzeh: xisos doesn't necessarily mean piracy
[10:50] <Neurosis> Anyone know of a good chat client for linux other than IRC?
[10:50] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, I have a patch and a parrot
[10:50] <jean> like a scandisk
[10:51] <Bizzeh> ccc_: you have a modded xbox, that illegal as it is in most countrys now
[10:51] <Ng> Bizzeh: but it may not be illegal in his
[10:51] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, that's not true at all
[10:51] <mwe> xbox iso are illegal?
[10:51] <glacious> 2 GB for /tmp good? =)
[10:51] <mwe> didn't know that
[10:51] <jahshua> Neurosis: gaim,kopete ?
[10:51] <Ng> jean: only if it has been unmounted incorrectly
[10:51] <jean> am i wrong or does reiser not have to do fs hard dsisk checks at boot?
[10:51] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, it's actually completely legal to do a linux install now
[10:51] <Bizzeh> bobbyd: softmod
[10:51] <Neurosis> I mean like a new chat community?
[10:51] <Telemachus> Bizzeh...which countrries are they?
[10:51] <jean> after a crash
[10:52] <ccc_> Bizzeh: not in sweden where i am, so...
[10:52] <Ng> jean: you're talking about journalling, which massively reduces the amount of time required to recover from a crash. ext3 and reiser both do journalling
[10:52] <Bizzeh> you cant legaly hardmod consoles in the US or most of europe
[10:52] <hopeowl> Actually the colour distortion seems to only happen after the Xscreensaver runs
[10:52] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, did he mention hardware modification?
[10:52] <jean> Ng: i see
[10:52] <mwe> Bizzeh: well in denmark it's perfectly legal
[10:52] <Telemachus> Bizzeh, that isn't most countries
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> jean: Mine does it if something was logged as being bad, or unmounted incorrectly.  I also get a check after every 30 or so mounts.  See Ng's for journalling comments.
[10:52] <Bizzeh> Telemachus: its most countrys with electricity
[10:52] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, are you in the united states at the moment?
[10:52] <Bizzeh> no
[10:52] <Bizzeh> uk
[10:53] <Neurosis> Is there a paltalk sort of thing for linux?
[10:53] <Hawk|-> HI, how do i figure out in which runlevel i am?
[10:53] <ccc_> most countries with electricity = usa & western europe <- :D
[10:53] <mwe> Bizzeh: of course piracy is illeagal though
[10:53] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, that's pretty funny, did you do well in geography at school? :)
[10:53] <Bizzeh> there are 2 things that come as iso for the xbox, the dvd player that is a hacked ms dash, and games
[10:53] <Bizzeh> bobbyd: did i say western europe
[10:54] <mwe> Bizzeh: is it illegal to hard mod a console in the UK ?
[10:54] <Bizzeh> i said EUROPE
[10:54] <Bizzeh> yes
[10:54] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, and linux distrobutions...
[10:54] <Telemachus> Bizzeh:  There are 192 countries...all have electricity and only few have rules against modding consoles
[10:54] <Bizzeh> bobbyd: he wouldnt be using gxiso to put it on the xbox
[10:54] <poimen> bah I dont kwon why if you pay 140 to 300 dollars for a expox you can not modify it
[10:54] <soundray> Let's not call copying software piracy. Piracy is invading ships and stealing property.
[10:55] <bobbyd> soundray, and rape
[10:55] <soundray> Arrgh, offtopic again.
[10:55] <bobbyd> and murder
[10:55] <bobbyd> arrrrrrrrr
[10:55] <Ryan450> hey gang, downloaded an RPM file to install the java runtime enviorment plugin for mozilla.. problem is that it says the rpm: command not found.. any suggestions?
[10:55] <Bizzeh> i think im sat in the middle of a bunch of anti-ms zelouts
[10:55] <timfrost> !java
[10:55] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:55] <Ryan450> ty
[10:55] <mwe> poimen: just move to Denmark. It's legal here
[10:55] <ccc_> Bizzeh: listen, gxiso can both ftp transfer xiso files and unpack xiso files. there are lots of homebrew xiso files, and there is no law against unpacking those anywhere in the world.
[10:55] <poimen> lol
[10:55] <palimphread> hi
[10:55] <Telemachus> rpms are for Redhat and Suse linux
[10:55] <talisein> saying the phrase software piracy only helps the evil ones perpetuate the idea that such encrochments on our freedoms is okay
[10:56] <xored> how to show the current printer spool under ubuntu
[10:56] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, not calling copying software piracy has nothing to do with being a zealot. It's to do with not accepting someone elses connotations on a subject
[10:56] <Bizzeh> ccc_: 99% of homebrew comes as raaw files
[10:56] <Bizzeh> raw
[10:56] <ccc_> Bizzeh: yes, and your point is?
[10:56] <poimen> na mwe na I just have my own pc with linux scr*w the xbox , xbox is for playing games and playstation kick its as***
[10:56] <Bizzeh> i know, i am/was a dev on xbmc
[10:56] <Bizzeh> i know the scene
[10:56] <ccc_> ok?
[10:57] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, if your're happy to define your views through someone else's interpretation then just go ahead. Unless of course you really believe copying software is like piracy.
[10:57] <Telemachus> Ryan450: you need to install the the self extracting file from www.java.com
[10:57] <bobbyd> which is worrying in it's own way :)
[10:57] <jclinton> Does anyone know the "Debian Way" to switch compilers from 4.x to 3.x ??????
[10:57] <soundray> Bizzeh, not accepting someone elses diction makes me a zealot?
[10:57] <Rawplayer> MI
[10:58] <jago> hey does anybody know the minimum requirements for ubuntu?
[10:58] <Bizzeh> bobbyd: go buy a new kitchen, then ill come take it off you
[10:58] <Bizzeh> is that theft
[10:58] <soundray> jclinton, update-alternatives
[10:58] <Ng> jago: a few gb of disk and 128mb of ram is the only real minimum requirement
[10:58] <Seveas> Bizzeh, -ETOPIC
[10:58] <jago> thaks NG
[10:58] <ccc_> thanks for proving your point Bizzeh :D
[10:58] <jago>  but the processor?
[10:58] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, yes, obviously. Is it piracy? kitchen piracy?
[10:58] <Telemachus> jago: yep, depends on whether you need to run X
[10:59] <Seveas> bobbyd, -ETOPIC, go somewhere else with this discussion
[10:59] <Bizzeh> a pirate steals
[10:59] <jago> :S
[10:59] <Ng> jago: it'll run on an old 486 if you really want it to, the RAM is more important really
[10:59] <Seveas> Bizzeh, last warning
[10:59] <bobbyd> Seveas, ok
[10:59] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:59] <Seveas> hi aLeSD
[10:59] <jago> ng:if i got 96mb RAM?
[10:59] <jago> does it work?
[10:59] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[10:59] <Seveas> jago, that's not enough for Ubuntu, try Xubuntu or a non-GUI system
[10:59] <timfrost> jclinton, if you need 3,4, install it.  On breezy, 3.4 and 4.0 co-exist.  To use 3.4, type 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4', then run the configure scripts
[10:59] <aLeSD> has ubuntu somethink to set the frequency or the cpu... I have a laptop
[11:00] <aLeSD> ?
[11:00] <jago> :S
[11:00] <Seveas> aLeSD, yes, installed by default
[11:00] <fissy> hello, any gurus about? Is there a way of calculating where mkfs.ext3 would put backup superblocks given the default options and a physical disk size of 300GB?
[11:00] <Bizzeh> Seveas: fine, fuck it, everyone else is ok to speak their mind except the person who supports legality and not being a stuck up tight ass... paying for software is fair when someone put alot of money into making a good product..
[11:00] <jago> ok thanks
[11:00] <poimen> jago I got a 96 mb ram   , 450MHz amd    with 10gig working with xubuntu
[11:00] <rehpotsirhc> are the ubuntu forums down?
[11:00] <jago> :D
[11:00] <bobbyd> anyway, does anyone know how to change the default drag and drop behaviour in text editors? by default it copies text, but I'd like it to move it by default.
[11:00] <Stormx2> rehpotsirhc: they are.
[11:00] <poimen> ubuntu works but too slow
[11:00] <rehpotsirhc> k thanks, just making sure :D
[11:00] <jago> from where i got Xubuntu?
[11:00] <jago> poimen?
[11:00] <jclinton> soundray: no, that doesn't work... that lets you change from gcc to other types of compilers, not between versions of gcc
[11:00] <german> Hello everybody
[11:01] <poimen> well I just installed ubuntu and then I did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:01] <Seveas> jago, that's a 2-phase install: install Ubuntu with 'server' option and then install the xubuntu-desktop package
[11:01] <jago> :S
[11:01] <jago>  ok thx
[11:01] <soundray> jclinton, give me a minute
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> jclinton: Doesn't apt have a force version option somewhere?
[11:01] <german> I changed my icons to gartoon theme, and it's excellent, but i just don't like one icon, and i would like to change just that icon for another one
[11:02] <Ng> german: presumably you'd need to edit the theme
[11:02] <soundray> jclinton, you are right, but that feature enables you to use gcc-3.4 or gcc-3.3 instead of v.4 once you have them installed.
[11:02] <Seveas> german, that means browsing in /usr/share/icons and deleting/adding icons
[11:02] <jclinton> tonyyarusso: dunno about that; i have both 3.x and 4.x installed but i need to use 3.x for a program i am compiling
[11:02] <aLeSD> Seveas: how could I set it?
[11:02] <Seveas> aLeSD, Pentium M?
[11:02] <aLeSD> Seveas: yes
[11:03] <jclinton> soundray: i have them both installed but /etc/alternatives/cc points to /usr/bin/gcc
[11:03] <Ribs> jclinton: try CC=gcc-3.4
[11:03] <german> thanks!
[11:03] <Seveas> aLeSD, rightclick on the panel, select add to panel, select CPU frequency monitor
[11:03] <Ribs> along with your compile line
[11:03] <jclinton> Ribs: ok trying
[11:03] <talisein> jclinton, what does gcc point to? It should be a symbolic link to gcc-4.0
[11:03] <jclinton> talisein: yea it is
[11:03] <gabe> ...
[11:03] <german> thanks Seveas, thanks Ng
[11:03] <Seveas> aLeSD, that's just a monitor - setting the frequency is done automatically
[11:03] <aLeSD> Seveas: fine
[11:03] <talisein> jclinton, is there a gcc-3.4?
[11:03] <jclinton> talisein: yes
[11:04] <soundray> jclinton, and /usr/bin/gcc points to /etc/alternatives/gcc, which in turn points to either /usr/bin/gcc-3.3, /usr/bin/gcc-3.4, or something else. Get it?
[11:04] <Seveas> aLeSD, if you want to manually set it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[11:04] <Seveas> aLeSD, that turns the monitor in a controller ;)
[11:04] <jclinton> soundray: no, there's is no /etc/alternatives/gcc, /usr/bin/gcc points to gcc-4.0
[11:04] <talisein> jclinton, change where the symbolic link points to, but I don't know the "debian way" sorry :)
[11:04] <Seveas> soundray, gcc does not use the alternatices system :)
[11:05] <Dreamglider> i just got notified about a new kernel update, i installed it now when ever i open firefox i hear a loud scratch/krackle sound in my headphones/speakers anyone know what it's caused by?
[11:05] <Seveas> jclinton, export CC=gcc-3.4 should work for a single session of compiling, otherwise: sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[11:05] <soundray> Sorry jclinton
[11:05] <jclinton> Seveas: ok trying
[11:05] <talisein> Dreamglider, have you rebooted since the install?
[11:05] <Dreamglider> talisein, yes i have
[11:06] <Ryan450> hmm.. alright.. I've added the multiverse repository so that I can download the java-package.. but apparently its not there when I go to apt-get install java-package :S
[11:06] <jclinton> Seveas: didn't work; i'm trying to compile QEMU
[11:06] <armosfighter> when i enter wine dvdshrink32setup.exe in the terminal it doesnt work what am i doing wrong?
[11:06] <gabe> How the heck do I change the deafult name it logs me in in xChat?
[11:06] <jclinton> Seveas: it could be that the ./configure script is ignoring that env variable i guess
[11:06] <taoscotch> where do i ask questions related to hardware
[11:06] <armosfighter> i have the package on my desktop
[11:06] <armosfighter> its still a zip file
[11:06] <mwe> Seveas: I have to put a -n to ln as well to get it to overwrite links. ln -fns
[11:06] <soundray> jclinton, maybe the ln -sf tip will work then.
[11:07] <jclinton> ok, just wanted to avoid any permanent changes
[11:07] <jclinton> or anything that would be overwritten by a package install
[11:07] <soundray> jclinton, you can still change the configure script.
[11:07] <jclinton> k
[11:08] <Dreamglider> i have a 10 gb hdd here i want to install ubuntu on, how should i partion it ?
[11:08] <aLeSD> Seveas: very good tool. Thanks... I can chose the governor... I was searching it
[11:08] <talisein> Dreamglider, Try to boot back into your old kernel, just to verify that it is indeed the kernel that is the problem
[11:08] <Dreamglider> talisein, ok brb
[11:08] <aLeSD> Seveas: do u have a pentium-m too?
[11:08] <mwe> Dreamglider: I just have one big / partition
[11:08] <soundray> mwe, don't you hate that...
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider: Unless you need to dualboot, it can do it automatically for you.
[11:09] <mwe> soundray: no
[11:09] <mwe> soundray: why would I
[11:09] <akurashy> is there any good dvd player?
[11:09] <soundray> mwe, tonyyarusso, I mean people leaving when you're in the middle of answering their question.
[11:09] <Withdraw> im having trouble compiling my kernel, i get somekind of gcc-3.4: command not found error
[11:09] <aLeSD> I was searching for a kernel image optimizated for pentium-m. where I could find it?
[11:09] <Withdraw> http://pastebin.com/512126
[11:09] <taoscotch> where can i ask questions about hardware
[11:09] <Ng> aLeSD: install linux-686
[11:09] <Withdraw> anyone hava  solution
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Yeah, but there are worse things.
[11:10] <mwe> soundray: oh yeah. that's annoying
[11:10] <decaf> Withdraw: install gcc-3.4 :)
[11:10] <vassilis> once again the forums are unreachable
[11:10] <soundray> taoscotch, just ask -- you will get dispatched if it doesn't fit in here.
[11:10] <mwe> soundray: thought you asked if I hated having just one big / partition
[11:10] <Withdraw> decaf, i did apt-get install gcc but it says its up to date, how can i override that ?
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> mwe: I had one big / at first, but have since found that I want to be able to reinstall without losing certain things.
[11:10] <decaf> Withdraw: also take look at "kernel-package" to build kernels
[11:10] <mwe> tonyyarusso: yeah
[11:11] <Withdraw> "kernel-package is already the newest version.
[11:11] <Withdraw> "
[11:11] <soundray> mwe, that works surprisingly well. I'm still tempted to put in another disk and try out LVM...
[11:11] <decaf> Withdraw: default gcc is 4.0, there are other packages, gcc-3.3 gcc-3.4
[11:11] <Agiofws> ok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ?
[11:11] <glacious> meh, i keep getting the "error loading grub:   error 17".  I installed grub to /dev/sda6, set that partition bootable.  what can go wrong?
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> Are there console-based e-mail clients?  What would you recommend?
[11:11] <fissy> telnet
[11:11] <mwe> soundray: yeah
[11:11] <Agiofws> ?
[11:12] <gabe> How do I change login settings in xChat.. it just keeps logging me in to the channel and with the login name I don't want.
[11:12] <spacey> tonyyarusso, mutt
[11:12] <soundray> tonyyarusso, I use mutt
[11:12] <Agiofws> do i have to turn to debian ?
[11:12] <talisein> tonyyarusso, mutt all the way :)
[11:12] <decaf> Agiofws: system -> preferences -> removable drives...
[11:12] <Withdraw> decaf, kewl, thanks that fixed it (apt-get install gcc-3.4)
[11:12] <mwe> tonyyarusso: that's a good point
[11:12] <asparagui> i have a winxp box, i wanna add a hard drive and put ubuntu on that.
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> spacey, soundray, talisein: Sounds like we have a consensus!
[11:12] <Agiofws> decaf,  console  way
[11:12] <taoscotch> soundray : i was trying to install ubuntu on an old AST advantage 625 computer real slow, real old. i changed the cd rom and installed the one that had auto cd-boot thing. now when i turn on  the computer i dont see anything, my harddrive or my cdrom, only floppy works.
[11:12] <asparagui> is there a way to do that without reinstalling xp?
[11:12] <fissy> telnet :'(
[11:12] <Agiofws> ?
[11:12] <glacious> anyone know why grub won't load at boot?  /dev/sda6 is bootable, and thats where grub is.  /dev/sda6 is /boot.
[11:12] <soundray> tonyyarusso, to quote the developer: "This email client sucks less"...
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> asparagui: I don't know why you'd need to.
[11:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> asparagui: Yeah, just put the new HDD in and install ubuntu on it.
[11:13] <logan001101> hi guys, i have a tiny problem, my font stype of all my windows toolbar are very small, how can i make it bigger?
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Nice.
[11:13] <talisein> tonyyarusso, If you don't already know about it, google around and learn about procmail too.
[11:13] <mwe> tonyyarusso: last time I had to reinstall because I got promblems upgrading to breezy I just burned important stuff to a dvd-rw though
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Will do.
[11:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> asparagui: Ubuntu will install Grub, which lets you dual-boot, and it'll auto-detect and configure it for your WinXP installation.
[11:13] <asparagui> ja?
[11:13] <vassilis> anyone can help me why there is no sound in ubuntu?
[11:13] <Agiofws> ok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ? init.d ? or rc.X links ?
[11:13] <asparagui> super-coolness.
[11:14] <logan001101> any idea?
[11:14] <fissy> logan001101, click on System in the top left then go on preferences, then go on font
[11:14] <asparagui> k, i'll go set that up later.
[11:14] <vassilis> my sound card is (incorrectly) identified as Audigy LS
[11:14] <crimsun> Agiofws: System> Preferences> Removable Drives and Media
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> mwe: That's one way.  I've put a bunch of music on here now too, and can only burn CD, so that would be a lot of burning...
[11:14] <mwe> tonyyarusso: yeah
[11:14] <crimsun> vassilis: lspci -nv  -->pastebin
[11:14] <logan001101> fissy: im using xfce4
[11:14] <asparagui> thanks. ;-)
[11:14] <talisein> vassilis, what sound card do you have? :)
[11:14] <soundray> taoscotch, maybe you need to make settings in the BIOS setup?
[11:14] <vassilis> it's am omboard Realtek chip
[11:14] <fissy> logan001101, OIC, no idea. Ask in #xfce :)
[11:15] <Sh4d0x> can someone give me the name of a program to burn images, program should be working in ubuntu (duhh)
[11:15] <soundray> Sh4d0x, nautilus
[11:15] <talisein> hrm, whats the Ubuntu equivelant to alsaconfig?
[11:15] <logan001101> fissy: is #xfce in freenode ??
[11:15] <notgabe> WHat the heck? Why is xChat logging me in automatically and whay can't I change my login info? Serioulsy, no one using xChat here?... It wasn't doing this before.
[11:15] <logan001101> fissy: anyway, thanks for help
[11:15] <crimsun> vassilis: uh, that's a HUGE difference... please pastebin what I asked for, thanks.
[11:15] <Sh4d0x> soundray, thnx, from this day forward, you are my ubuntu god :D
[11:15] <crimsun> talisein: there is none
[11:15] <vassilis> little help here
[11:16] <glacious> can /boot be on a logical partition made bootable, for GRUB?
[11:16] <vassilis> what do you mean pastebin?(newbie)
[11:16] <crimsun> !tell vassilis about pastebin
[11:16] <Seveas> !tell vassilis about pastebin
[11:16] <soundray> crimson won this shootout.
[11:16] <taoscotch>  soundray : i tried bios setting in there, i cannot see the name of the hardrive or the cdrom, neither the new one nor the older one. and when i tried to go back to defaults, it says hardrive not installed
[11:16] <vassilis> ok thansk
[11:17] <Keyseir> I'm having a little problem... I installed win4lin and I was setting up a windows session. I can't do the installation with sudo because then the session wouldn't belong to the user (session can't be run as sudo), and it won't let me install without sudo because the user doesn't have the ability to change ownership and stuff during the installation. Any idea what I can do?
[11:17] <soundray> taoscotch, just to check: you replaced the CD-ROM drive with a different one?
[11:17] <Sh4d0x> soundray, hmm seems i cannot install it from the repositories *went googling
[11:17] <timfrost> spacey, the default nick and server are set at the TOP of the serverlist dialog box (Xchat->Server List)
[11:17] <yatesy> Keyseir: sudo -i
[11:17] <Keyseir> yatesy: thanks a bunch
[11:17] <picasso> nooooo! not another kernel update
[11:17] <soundray> Sh4d0x, nautilus is part of gnome. Just right-click an iso file and there's the option to write it to CD-R
[11:17] <picasso> now i gotta recompile my wifi drivers??
[11:18] <Agiofws> ok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ? init.d ? or rc.X links ?
[11:18] <tyler_> why is it that i install the fasttrack network plugin for giFT but seems i cannot get into that network?
[11:18] <taoscotch> soundray : yeah, i had another computer a newer one where the cd can boot directly so to save trouble i removed the older one and replaced it with a newer one
[11:18] <crimsun> Agiofws: I just told you
[11:18] <mwe> picasso: you have to recompile any custom added modules
[11:18] <picasso> Agiofws: try 'grep -r "mount -a" /etc/rc.d'
[11:18] <Agiofws> crimsun,  i DONT  USE A GUI OR GNOME oR KDE
[11:18] <picasso> hust kdiding
[11:18] <Sh4d0x> soundray oooooh, that explains much :D  :love: ubuntu :D
[11:18] <Keyseir> yatesy: how do I disable sudo -i ?
[11:19] <mwe> crimsun: what if you don't have gnome?
[11:19] <Knelix2> After I install a n app via Synaptic, how do I access it? How do I know where it is?
[11:19] <crimsun> Agiofws: then next time please specify you mean mounting of partitions, not devices, thanks.
[11:19] <picasso> mew, sux0rs, i dont remember what i had to do hehe
[11:19] <yatesy> Keyseir: disable?
[11:19] <bobbyd> hi
[11:19] <Keyseir> yatesy: turn it off.
[11:19] <yatesy> Keyseir: to exit out of it you mean?
[11:19] <Keyseir> yatesy: yes
[11:19] <picasso> ipw2200
[11:19] <soundray> taoscotch, depending on the internals of the AST, you may have to switch the drive to work as a slave with a jumper.
[11:19] <crimsun> mwe: communication problem
[11:19] <glacious> when GRUB is installed to your MBR, does the /boot partition still get used if thats where grub is?
[11:19] <bobbyd> what do i need to do to make the nvidia binary driver work again after I update the kernel?
[11:19] <yatesy> Keyseir: same as you would normally logout, exit :)
[11:19] <Stormx2> Hey everyone. Is there a nice music-making app for ubuntu, like renoise, reason, etc?
[11:19] <vassilis> crimsun: ok
[11:19] <Agiofws> crimsun,  it mounts  partitions automatically do you whch script is doing it ?
[11:20] <taoscotch> soundray, taking it out and putting it in again, won't do the trick right?
[11:20] <mwe> crimsun: I mean how do you turn off the auto mount if you don't have gnome
[11:20] <Keyseir> yatesy: ah. It's still saying it isn't owned by "this user", and when I try to run it with sudo -i still up, it says it can't be run as 'root'
[11:20] <crimsun> Agiofws: /what/ is being automatically mounted?
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> glacious: I believe so, as that's where all of the files it uses are.
[11:20] <Sh4d0x> soundray, i have to dissapoint you once more, there is no right mous click option called "burn to"
[11:20] <soundray> taoscotch, no.
[11:20] <glacious> tonyyarusso: ok, thank you.
[11:20] <Gori> Hi people ! Anybody have an idea when the ubuntuforums.org are up again ?
[11:20] <Keyseir> yatesy: It seems like it has to be installed as root but it can't be run as root and it has to be run by the user that installed it.
[11:20] <talisein> Agiofws, is the unwanted partition in your /etc/fstab?
[11:20] <soundray> taoscotch, you need to find the jumpers or switches. Google may help if you know the model name of your drive.
[11:20] <navarone> Stormx2, I don't know if this will suit your needs but google lmms and look for project on sourceforge.net I think it is a sequencer kinda prog
[11:21] <Keyseir> yatesy: what the heck..
[11:21] <Ov3R> hi
[11:21] <Ov3R> speake spanish?
[11:21] <Ov3R> :S
[11:21] <taoscotch> soundray : i m chatting with you from my laptop it has a cd-writer dvd etc. on it but no floppy and the other computer doesn't have internet connection, so how do i move files from here to there...
[11:21] <Agiofws> crimsun,  de/hdaX  and /dev/hdabX
[11:21] <soundray> Sh4d0x, "Write do Disc"? Second last?
[11:21] <Agiofws> talisein,  yes it is
[11:21] <bshumate> !es
[11:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:21] <crimsun> Agiofws: then you need to edit /etc/fstab and append 'noauto' to the options line(s)
[11:21] <talisein> Agiofws, in the options field for that partition add noauto :)
[11:22] <soundray> taoscotch, I thought we weren't at the stage where we worry about moving files...
[11:22] <navarone> Talisein isn't that a character from the Grey Mouser books?
[11:22] <Agiofws> crimsun,   thats not such a good  solution
[11:22] <Agiofws> what is automounting
[11:22] <taoscotch> soundray : i m sorry i thought resetting bios or jumpers and switches required moving files,
[11:23] <talisein> navarone, actually its a play on the world Taliesin, which i was first exposed to in Stephen Lawhead's King Arthur books
[11:23] <talisein> err, word, not world
[11:23] <mwe> how do you stop the system from mounting the cd when you put one in?
[11:23] <Sh4d0x> soundray, nope, my brothers laptop has (finally, it took 8 weeks) returned from repair, i'd like to put an anti virus on it but the bin/cue files are in my windows partion. could that be the problem why it's not working? :$
[11:23] <navarone> hmmm...looke familiar  at any rate...:)
[11:23] <soundray> taoscotch, no, this is a pure hardware procedure. You take out the CD drive again and see if it has switches or jumpers.
[11:23] <taoscotch> soundray : cool i will do that in a second
[11:24] <crimsun> Agiofws: /etc/rcS.d/S35mountall.sh is a symlink to /etc/init.d/mountall.sh, which contains a call to mount -a
[11:24] <crimsun> Agiofws: simply remove the -a
[11:24] <vassilis> crimsun: pastebin ok, any help?
[11:24] <crimsun> Agiofws: be aware that you're changing the semantics of the boot, though.
[11:24] <rambo3> pfffff . why does page like experts-exchange exist on google results
[11:24] <soundray> Sh4d0x, got you. I thought you were trying to write an ISO file to CD.
[11:24] <crimsun> Agiofws: it /really/ is a much better idea to place 'noauto' in /etc/fstab
[11:25] <Agiofws> crimsun,  ok done it in fstab
[11:25] <Agiofws> crimsun,  something else
[11:25] <crimsun> vassilis: sec
[11:25] <Keyseir> how does one get 'su' to work? I do su and type my password but it always says su: Authentication failure
[11:25] <bobbyd> Stormx2, ask in #lad (linux audio development_
[11:25] <rambo3> try sudo -i
[11:25] <Agiofws> crimsun,  le me reboot
[11:25] <Knelix2> After installing an app via Synaptic how do I access it? How do I know where it is?
[11:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Keyseir: root is disabled by default
[11:25] <timfrost> !tell Keyseir about root
[11:26] <Sh4d0x> soundray, an image, yes, could be an iso, but this program is bin/cue imaged (windows h ;))
[11:26] <soundray> Sh4d0x, in gnome, usually if you insert a blank CD in a drive, it'll open a window where you can drop files to write to it.
[11:26] <talisein> Agiofws, "noauto" prevents init scripts from mounting the partition at boot time, but still lets you mount it at any other time by only calling the target, e.g. "mount /mnt/backup"
[11:26] !lilo:*! Hi all. Prime time channel note. Freenode hosts an unofficial support channel ( ##xen ) for the Xen server virtualization project. It's a small but growing channel---if you'd like to help out, please stop by. Thanks! :)
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Knelix2: Sometimes it will add to the Gnome menu, sometimes just typing the program name in terminal runs it, sometime you have to use locate to figure out the command.
[11:26] <fiona> Are th fora down?
[11:26] <Keyseir> I hope root is enablable.
[11:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fiona: They seem to be.
[11:27] <gnudreamer> are there any security risks to being on irc?
[11:27] <Sh4d0x> soundray i'll try copy paste the bin/cue in the blank cd
[11:27] <crimsun> vassilis: I need lspci -v, too
[11:27] <soundray> Sh4d0x, no... in that case I suggest you look at k3b.
[11:27] <fiona> Thanks Pumpernickle
[11:27] <fissy> Keyseir, you just have to set a password for root (sudo passwd)
[11:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Keyseir: It is... just use sudo passwd root
[11:27] <Keyseir> OK
[11:27] <navarone> gnudreamer, only if you give someone personal info...or accept files thru dcc
[11:27] <gnudreamer> ty
[11:28] <talisein> gnudreamer, if you don't have "auto retrieve" or "auto get" enabled, irc is pretty safe. Obviously if you fetch executables from unknown sources, you can not trust them
[11:28] <soundray> Sh4d0x, k3b lists "* writing existing iso-images and cue/bin images to cd" as a feature.
[11:28] <gnudreamer> ty
[11:28] <fiona> I just seemed to have hosed my X server - upgraded to Xorg 7.0 and get now messages that X is not executable.  The lmms dependancies suck >.<
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> spacey, soundray, talisein: I should be able to configure Mutt to share mail directories with Thunderbird, so I can switch back and forth between them at will, right?
[11:30] <talisein> navarone, and the name of a welsh band. Also check out the connection between Frank Lloyd Wright and the world taliesin, its pretty interesting bit of americana
[11:30] <taoscotch> soundray : i looked in the back and i also searched the net for pictures of jumpers and switches etc. i found mine has some pins in set of twos and the last one the thrid one has a green colored plastic coating sorta thing on it.
[11:31] <rambo3> A sophisticated KDE cd burning application
[11:31] <rambo3>  . o we want $$$ for QT , ok no one is buying it lets make it free so we dont look like idiots
[11:31] <Stormx2> navarone: Everything there requires a newer version of a package that isn't in the repos
[11:31] <vassilis> 0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA0106
[11:31] <vassilis>                      MSI K8N Diamond MB [SB0438]  at 0xde00 irq 16
[11:31] <Okay> hi
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> Hi Okay.
[11:32] <talisein> tonyyarusso, Yes, if you use the "mbox" format. Thunderbird does not recognize the "Maildir" format. The the limitation to the "mbox" format it is safe for only one program to access your mail at a time
[11:32] <Okay> hi tonyyarusso
[11:32] <Sh4d0x> soundray, status: installings, seems to be a nice tool
[11:32] <crimsun> vassilis: that's not incorrect.
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Okay, that won't be a problem.
[11:32] <soundray> taoscotch, the green thing is a jumper. You need to find out whether it is configured as a master or slave at present. Once you know, toggle the state.
[11:32] <picasso> hey, for some reason when i mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/drivec, i can't get it to be readable by users. i tried using disk manager through gnome too, same result
[11:32] <vassilis> no it's not you're right, still...
[11:32] <picasso> how can i mount my NTFS volume so that users can read files?
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Looks like I have a wee bit of reading to do!
[11:32] <soundray> Sh4d0x, if only it didn't need all those KDE dependencies.
[11:33] <talisein> tonyyarusso, Yeah ^^ Mail is fun.
[11:33] <crimsun> vassilis: see my amendment at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7339
[11:33] <crimsun> vassilis: so now I need your amixer output
[11:33] <Okay> how can i hyde the version of ssh when a telnet sesion is opened plz?
[11:34] <theine> what's up with http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/
[11:34] <Keyseir> I'm trying to install something that requires a regular user to change premissions for files used for the installation. It can't be installed by the super user or root user because it's set up to only work for the user that installs it, and can't be used  by the su. How can I install like this?
[11:34] <soundray> tonyyarusso, I had bad experiences trying to access one mbox with more than one email program.
[11:34] <theine> ?
[11:34] <crimsun> Okay: you'd have to edit the openssh-server source and recompile it.
[11:34] <Sh4d0x> soundray, but there aren't that much differences between kde and gnome, or?
[11:34] <rambo3> move the window to the left on the screen so that you dont see the half of terminal , nad you wont see the version
[11:34] <picasso> anybody can help me mount ntfs partition so that i can access it w/ user acct?
[11:34] <j3di> picasso: if you make a seperate partition thats FAT32, your windows box could read and write to it as well as your linux users..:)
[11:34] <soundray> tonyyarusso, consider retrieving your mail twice, leaving it on the server the first time round.
[11:34] <vassilis> one step at a time
[11:35] <soundray> tonyyarusso, once for mutt, once for tbird.
[11:35] <picasso> j3di, not what i'm looking for..
[11:35] <Okay> crimsun, that sux
[11:35] <picasso> i want users to be able to read.
[11:35] <vassilis> crimsun: what should I do with the amendment?
[11:35] <timfrost> Keyseir, where in the filesystem is it trying to install?
[11:35] <picasso> not worried about r/w, and also not interested in using fat32
[11:35] <soundray> Sh4d0x, from a user's point of view, they differ in approach, but not in power.
[11:35] <crimsun> vassilis: I just let you know what I need next
[11:35] <vassilis> and how can I see the amixer uotput?
[11:35] <rambo3> picasso maby there is entry for fstab in ubuntu wiki
[11:35] <Keyseir> timfrost: /home/$user/
[11:35] <picasso> i just want to read my c: drive so that i can run IE w/ wine
[11:35] <crimsun> vassilis: type amixer in a terminal
[11:35] <fiona> Anyone else problems with Xorg 7.0 "not executable"?
[11:35] <j3di> picasso: then why are you using ntfs?
[11:35] <navarone> j3di are your windows partitions mounting?
[11:36] <soundray> Sh4d0x, if you have a gnome system, installing a single KDE program is fairly expensive in terms of disk space.
[11:36] <Keyseir> timfrost: I can install it anywhere if a different location will solve the problem, though
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> soundray: And you were trying to access it with the two programs but at separate times?
[11:36] <theine> Okay, what feature of openssh are you looking for?
[11:36] <picasso> j3di: fat32 is archaeic and terrible
[11:36] <soundray> tonyyarusso, yes.
[11:36] <j3di> mine are mounting perfectly yes..
[11:36] <picasso> plus, i dont want to modify my windows install, it's default from my laptop vendor
[11:36] <picasso> all iw ant to do is mount it read-only so that i can access dll's and exe's
[11:36] <picasso> for wine.
[11:36] <soundray> tonyyarusso, admittedly, it was mutt and evolution, when the latter was still in alpha.
[11:36] <vassilis> crimsun: pastebinned it!
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Hrm.  Okay, will keep that in mind.
[11:36] <timfrost> Keyseir, what does ls -ld /home/$user show?
[11:37] <j3di> i figure if you can read and write to it.. it cant be that terrible
[11:37] <tweek888> Hello, is there a guide to creating a .deb package for ubuntu?
[11:37] <rambo3> then you dont need linux , use windows
[11:37] <picasso> heh
[11:37] <navarone> picasso...can you paste your fstab contents in pastebin ?
[11:37] <Sh4d0x> soundray, ai, i'm running gnome, isn't there a usefull gnome version to create cd projects, since kde can handle more, mayB i should try kubuntu
[11:37] <picasso> navarone, it's not in fstab, im doing this manually
[11:37] <talisein> tonyyarusso, Take a look at the screenshots for slphyeed and slphyeed-claws. It recognizes the Maildir format and is pretty robust in other ways too
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> tweek888: If you find it, let me know.    Ubuntu ROCKS.
[11:37] <Keyseir> timfrost: drwxrwxrwx  79 andrew andrew 4096 2006-01-18 17:30 /home/andrew
[11:37] <picasso> perhaps you could point me to the proper fstab entry. trying to find now on wik
[11:37] <Agiofws> ok booting ubuntu does a fsck on every partition  and stops and asks me to continue control -D  or enter roots passwords  how do i stop this during boots ?
[11:37] <carl> noob to Ubuntu, everything works but my printer which the job queue says it recieves the job, appears to "print" it then job clears but no paper comes from the printer, any ideas, what other info might you need?
[11:37] <soundray> Sh4d0x, k3b will run okay in a gnome environment in my experience.
[11:37] <crimsun> vassilis: no wonder, you mixer levels are set to 0 [out of 100]
[11:37] <navarone> picasso then what command options are you using in mount?
[11:37] <tweek888> tonyyarusso, ok
[11:37] <Agiofws> ok booting ubuntu does a fsck on every partition  and stops and asks me to continue control -D  or enter roots passwords  how do i stop this during boot ?
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Okay.
[11:38] <picasso> no options
[11:38] <glacious> it even got the front play/pause/mute/vol +- to work AUTOMATICALLY in my laptop.
[11:38] <picasso> which options shall i use?
[11:38] <glacious> go Ubuntu! =)
[11:38] <taoscotch> soundray : i did change the cdrom to  slave but i did it with a pair or really small tongs, is that ok.
[11:38] <hen3rz> is ubuntu forums working for anyone?????
[11:38] <talisein> tonyyarusso, but I've never used it (I'm happy with just mutt), so I can't necessarily 'endorse' it ;)
[11:38] <soundray> Sh4d0x, the reservations I have are more of a theoretical point of view.
[11:38] <crimsun> vassilis: you need to increase 'Analog Front' (and possibly 'Analog Center/LFE', 'Analog Rear', and 'Analog Side' if you use surround)
[11:38] <navarone> !diskmounter
[11:38] <ubotu> diskmounter is probably to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[11:38] <soundray> taoscotch, absolutely.
[11:38] <picasso> gracioas
[11:38] <glacious> is the default Ubuntu user also a 'super user', because i can update, config stuff etc...
[11:38] <navarone> picasso try that url and see if it suits your purpose
[11:38] <soundray> taoscotch, I hope this was the right thing to do.
[11:38] <carl> hen3rx: forums down for me too
[11:38] <uber_spaced> my gaim stops during "screen name sent"
[11:38] <picasso> hrm no response from server D:
[11:38] <uber_spaced> is this a common issue with the default install from ubuntu?
[11:38] <soundray> taoscotch, I mean, I hope it works now.
[11:38] <hen3rz> carl. k thanks
[11:39] <vassilis> crimsun: how do i do this? from GNOME I can;t get it out of "mute"
[11:39] <Sh4d0x> soundray, aha, but as long as it works it's fine with me, and atm it's burning at 9.52 speed :D
[11:39] <talisein> glacious, by default, all administrative is done through "sudo"... thats why it asks for your password
[11:39] <Keyseir> timfrost: what does that tell you?
[11:39] <crimsun> vassilis: you can use alsamixer in the terminal
[11:39] <CrAzYoNi> Hello all
[11:39] <soundray> taoscotch, it could still be that your HD needs to be configured for the presence of a slave.
[11:40] <crimsun> vassilis: I have a meeting in less than 8 minutes, so I need to run
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Looks like that's solely GUI, no?  I actually quite like Thunderbird, I'm just investigating text-only apps pretty much for kicks.
[11:40] <CrAzYoNi> I tried to add some script into /etc/init.d though I can't run it even though I'm as root, how can I make a shell file to be act as script that can be run?
[11:40] <navarone> hmmm..yeah no response picasso...try again later
[11:40] <crimsun> vassilis: those instructions should fix "no audible sound"
[11:40] <taoscotch> soundray : atleast the computer booted this time and registered both the hardrive and cdrom
[11:40] <soundray> taoscotch, there is also a worst-case possibility that the HD and CD drives are completely incompatible. But the only way to find out is to try.
[11:40] <talisein> tonyyarusso, yes, a GUI--basically a thunderbird replacement, if you could stand switching.
[11:40] <Agiofws> how do i stop ubuntu asking me to press control-D to continue booting ?
[11:40] <vassilis> crimsun: thanks, i dont't know how to work alsamixer but i'll figure sth out
[11:40] <soundray> taoscotch, excellent, that is good news.
[11:40] <vassilis> thanks a lot
[11:40] <glacious> talisein: but with my 'normal' user created during install, i can install patches and updates...
[11:40] <navarone> ctrl-d?
[11:40] <timfrost> Keyseir, those permissions mean that the install should be able to create its files/directories in your home directory.  I assume you are running the install as the user.
[11:40] <taoscotch> soundray : i will be back in a second i want to put the boot disk before it reboots again
[11:41] <Telemachus> CrAzYoNi: chmod 777 <filename>
[11:41] <CrAzYoNi> thx
[11:41] <soundray> taoscotch, your CD will be on hdb (I reckon it was hdc while in the newer laptop).
[11:41] <Qalimas> Is there a way to change remote desktop settings through the use of terminal only?
[11:41] <Yango> what's the package for developing client sendmail apps?
[11:41] <crimsun> vassilis: left or right arrows to move between elements, up and down arrows to increase or decrease, 'm' to mute or unmute
[11:41] <Keyseir> timfrost: yes I am, let me pastebin the error message to you. maybe you can make sense of it.
[11:41] <Yango> i see nothing like sendmail-dev in apt-cache search
[11:41] <talisein> glacious, yes. "sudo" allows a normal user to use superuser abilities to execute a single command
[11:41] <vassilis> crimsun:thanks again
[11:41] <Agiofws> how do i stop ubuntu asking me to press control-D to continue booting ?
[11:41] <CrAzYoNi> Thanks a lot, what is the meanning of chmod 777?
[11:41] <vassilis> crimsun:have a nice meeting
[11:42] <vassilis> (whatever)
[11:42] <hen3rz> crayzyoni it set permissions for that file
[11:42] <talisein> Agiofws, Is it complaining that a partition is dirty, or what?
[11:42] <glacious> talisein: but i never even set a 'root' password, nor did i ever type the password to use sudo to perform the updates.
[11:42] <hen3rz> crayzyoni its the same as right lciking and selecting the permissions tab and selecting the boxes
[11:42] <Telemachus> CrAzYoNi: best to open a terminal and type 'man chmod'....that will explain it
[11:43] <carl> could I ask a hopefully quick will not print question?
[11:43] <glacious> what is the default root password in Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:43] <vassilis> crimsun:WORKS!
[11:43] <vassilis> bye
[11:43] <fiona> Found the problem : /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc refers to X but should refer to Xorg...
[11:43] <hen3rz> what IRC clients do u guys use?
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> !tell glacious about root
[11:43] <Agiofws> talisein,  maybe
[11:43] <CrAzYoNi> ok, thank you :-)
[11:43] <Agiofws> but how do i overcome this ?
[11:43] <Agiofws> delete it ?
[11:43] <talisein> glacious, there is no root password, sudo uses the user's own password. which is weird if you're used to the old way, true enough :)... I think that ubuntu "remembers" your sudo privledges for 5 minutes or so. i'm not sure
[11:43] <glacious> crimsun: wow.  no thank you? =)
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> hen3rz: Had been in XChat, right now I'm trying irssi.
[11:44] <glacious> talisein: yes, very weird :)
[11:44] <Qalimas> Is there a way to change remote desktop settings through the use of terminal only?
[11:44] <hen3rz> tonyyarusso, yeah im using xhcat
[11:44] <soundray> talisein, too short in any case.
[11:44] <hen3rz> tonyyarusso, just wondering what else was out there
[11:44] <NatureTM> hi, I love ubuntu, but I've been having some issues:the first is that when I boot into windows, nvidia drivers get messed up and xserver fails to load
[11:44] <Keyseir> timfrost: the problem seems like it may have disappeared, I'll have to get back to you.
[11:44] <glacious> just wondering how i install packages, remove stuff ,edit configs etc... without the root password.
[11:44] <akari> Hi, what su password for ubuntu???
[11:44] <taoscotch> soundray
[11:44] <soundray> taoscotch, hello
[11:45] <taoscotch> soundray : i got through the boot and root disk, will be back in a sec
[11:45] <talisein> Agiofws, I'd take the time to run e2fsck or reiserfsck or whatever on the drive that is complaining
[11:45] <NatureTM> noone's heard of my problem?
[11:45] <Telemachus> glacious: sudo -i will give you a root prompt in a terminal
[11:45] <soundray> taoscotch, that's great. I'm going to be away soon...
[11:45] <Agiofws> talisein,  i tried  it does not fix the problem
[11:45] <Agiofws> though
[11:45] <glacious> Telemachus: ahh, perfect :)  ty.
[11:45] <Agiofws> ist an old vfat partition
[11:46] <glacious> Telemachus: so you never use or set a root password in Ubuntu
[11:46] <diesel> NatureTM: your question does not make sense
[11:46] <soundray> NatureTM, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages.
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> glacious: But for most things, everything you named, you don't need a root terminal.
[11:46] <Agiofws> ?
[11:46] <timfrost> Keyseir, OK.  I am going off-line for a while.  Will check with you when I come back online.
[11:46] <NatureTM> thanks i needed the name of that log
[11:46] <diesel> NatureTM: when you boot into windows...your xserver fails?
[11:46] <Telemachus> glacious: there i no need...although you can if you like....but its not regarded as good practice
[11:46] <NatureTM> yes
[11:46] <Keyseir> timfrost: awesome, thanks.
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> glacious: Just prepend sudo to the commands (i.e. sudo apt-get install packagename, sudo rm filename, etc.)
[11:46] <glacious> tonyyarusso: i guess i'm just used to the old system.  to install any system-wide packages i always needed root
[11:46] <Agiofws> talisein, ?
[11:46] <NatureTM> but i can't see the output
[11:47] <talisein> Agiofws, I think there's an option you can add to your fstab that will tell it to not check the drive
[11:47] <Stormx2> alsa has died on me. how do I restart her?
[11:47] <soundray> NatureTM, do you mean the X window system?
[11:47] <NatureTM> screen is just black
[11:47] <talisein> Agiofws, I'm looking it up :)
[11:47] <navarone> NatureTM, then I think that means it is running normally...<s>
[11:47] <Agiofws> talisein,  ok
[11:47] <NatureTM> x server i think
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> glacious: Seems to be common with people who have been doing it for a while, from what I hear.
[11:47] <Agiofws> thanks though
[11:47] <glacious> tonyyarusso: guess things change :)  then so will i.  thank you.
[11:47] <hen3rz> ubuntuforums is back up :D
[11:47] <NatureTM> lol i must have miscommunicated
[11:47] <glacious> Telemachus: awesome.  thank you :)
[11:47] <NatureTM> lemme just check that log file
[11:47] <soundray> Stormx2, alsa is she now, that's poetic :) /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[11:48] <mwe> glacious: sudo runs stuff with root permissions. by default anyone in the admin group can use sudo for anything
[11:48] <czr> does anyone know any good replacement for esd?
[11:48] <manicka> hen3rz, not for me
[11:48] <Sh4d0x> i'm off for some sleep, cya all tomorrow  ... soundray thnx man for helping ... sleepwell  xXx
[11:48] <czr> good as in allows sample caching and network operation
[11:48] <AbZ> uh, yeah. Would anyone be willing ot help me out for a sec
[11:48] <akari> how do i use sodu ___
[11:48] <AbZ> Im such a noob
[11:48] <soundray> Sh4d0x, all the best.
[11:48] <Stormx2> /etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: Use the alsa-utils initscript instead.
[11:48] <Telemachus> tonyyarusso:  I've been a Unix/linux user for 12 years and find sudo very very strange.....I must confess that I use a root password
[11:48] <Syuusuke> sodu? or sudo?
[11:48] <diesel> AbZ: go ahead and ask
[11:48] <navarone> Stormx2, is Alsa blonde with a Swedish accent? lol
[11:48] <Stormx2> lmao
[11:49] <akari> sudo
[11:49] <tweek888> Syuusuke, it's sudo
[11:49] <hen3rz> manicka, it was working... the main page laoded now a sub forum wont load...
[11:49] <NatureTM> what's the other log file x server lets you see whenb it fails other than /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:49] <Syuusuke> yeah i know lol, just that the person typed out sodu and i was wondering if its sudo
[11:49] <soundray> Telemachus, I used Linux for *even longer* :) and I got used to sudo.
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> Telemachus: Well, I'm not going to be the one to argue with you, since you have 25 times my experience, but given what I've heard in hear before I'll let someone else do it. :)
[11:49] <AbZ> yeah, I m working on downloading aim and I have to log onto root
[11:49] <talisein> I use su with the understanding that I have to sleep in my own bed ;)
[11:49] <Syuusuke> akari, what about sudo?
[11:49] <AbZ> And I have no clue how
[11:50] <ompaul> Telemachus, I have have now had a unix or linux account for 11 years - emm sudo is more natural once you do it for a week :) advantage you are not sitting there doing rm without typing sudo unless your actually type rm :-)
[11:50] <taoscotch> soundray : thanxs to you i now(almost)  have debian 3.0 sarge on my very very old ast advantage 625 and i use the dell inspiron 5160 with ubuntu the latest edition. i have tried many different distros now and then, but the longest i have been with any distro is ubuntu(debianish kinda ) cool. thanks a lot again.
[11:50] <mwe> I've used linux for 75 years and I think sudo rocks
[11:50] <ompaul> Telemachus, with the sudo (not well explained)
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> So now we have a little contest going for who's been using Linux longest, eh?
[11:50] <Stormx2> uhg
[11:50] <Stormx2> so
[11:50] <Stormx2> restarting alsa didn't bring my sound back
[11:50] <ompaul> mwe, sudo was developed about 25 years ago :-)
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Now that one I find just a tad hard to believe....
[11:50] <Stormx2> *sigh* i wish ubuntu wouldn't do this
[11:51] <Stormx2> after a while the sound just cuts out and stops.
[11:51] <soundray> mwe, what kernel version was teleported to you back in time 75 years ago? :)
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Not to mention computers...
[11:51] <AbZ> ?
[11:51] <diesel> AbZ: In order to install in Linux you must be the root user...this is for security pruposes
[11:51] <navarone> sudo makes sense security wise on a multi user set up...an intruder would have to determine exactly which user can use sudo in order to compromise the system. More users makes it more difficult.
[11:51] <AbZ> okay
[11:51] <AbZ> and I do this how
[11:51] <talisein> Agiofws, the fstab entry for your drive doesn't have a 1 at the end of it does it?
[11:51] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, he was programming cards on a loom back then :)
[11:51] <diesel> AbZ: sudo!
[11:51] <AbZ> gah....
[11:51] <Syuusuke> sudo powah
[11:51] <Agiofws> talisein,  nope
[11:52] <diesel> !root
[11:52] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: I would have liked to see that.
[11:52] <navarone> Some mac os's used sudo I think as well
[11:52] <AbZ> sudo? hwo exactly do i do this? I just got this system a few days ago
[11:52] <Stormx2> AbZ: using sudo, you just put sudo before a command. Like "sudo gedit" instead of "gedit"
[11:52] <AbZ> ah
[11:52] <soundray> taoscotch, glad I could help. Good luck!
[11:52] <AbZ> alright then
[11:52] <diesel> AbZ: take a look at what ubotu just said
[11:52] <CalamityX> hello
[11:52] <BxL> !source-o-matic
[11:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:52] <Agiofws> talisein, /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ext3    defaults,noauto        0       2
[11:52] <Agiofws> /dev/hda4       /media/hda4     ext3    defaults,noauto        0       2
[11:52] <Agiofws> /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,noauto        0       0
[11:52] <Agiofws> /dev/hdb2       /media/hdb2     ext2    defaults,noauto        0       2
[11:52] <mwe> ompaul: sudo is really that old (25 years) I had no idea
[11:52] <Agiofws> i should put 0
[11:52] <Agiofws> i think
[11:52] <flhuillery> :)
[11:52] <glacious> is there a way to absolutely force the screen refresh rate?  because no matter what i do, i tries 85, and my monitor displays an error box constantly over the desktop.
[11:53] <tweek888> ummm
[11:53] <Telemachus> ompaul:  I'm a network admin and am very careful with what I'm doing.
[11:53] <talisein> Agiofws,  yeah, 0 should stop it. It still complains even though its set noauto??
[11:53] <fireonyx> anyone know of how to ignore certian updates?  have a newer kernel, and dont need the ones up now.
[11:53] <tweek888> what is the proper command to use ubotu?
[11:53] <CalamityX> what is the default root password after the install ?
[11:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fireonyx: You could use the 'lock version' feature in synaptic.
[11:53] <mwe> glacious: put in the correct values for HorizSync and VertRefresh in xorg.conf
[11:53] <ompaul> CalamityX, there is none, use sudo
[11:53] <soundray> Telemachus, you are a network admin! That makes you different, of course.
[11:53] <tweek888> CalamityX, it is yours
[11:53] <tweek888> meh
[11:53] <ompaul> !tell CalamityX about sudo
[11:53] <glacious> mwe: i've done that, from manufacturer specs
[11:53] <Syuusuke> what does sudo stand for btw?
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: and maybe play with modelines. there's an online generator
[11:54] <talisein> do as superuser
[11:54] <Syuusuke> oh ic, never knew that
[11:54] <glacious> mwe: nothing i do to xorg.conf shows any change in the menu in gnome, always shows 85hz, thats all
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: google modeline generator
[11:54] <glacious> mwe: also tried that generator :)
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: oh
[11:54] <glacious> mwe: i exhaust my options, then come here for help =(
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: yeah
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: well if modelines and sync/refresh options don't help I don't know
[11:55] <glacious> mwe: my monitor still works @ 85hz, it just sets itself to 60hz, and displays an error 100% of the time, but my Gnome desktop is behind it.
[11:55] <mwe> glacious: of course you're sure you configured it to actually use those modelines?
[11:55] <navarone> glacious google your monitor model and find horiz and vert freq...you can then put those in xorg and maybe allow more refresh rates
[11:55] <glacious> mwe: i put the line into the 'Monitor' section.  not sure what else to make it use them.
[11:55] <mwe> glacious: so the monitor itself is complaining?
[11:56] <navarone> glacious I will post my monitor portion of xorg for you to see
[11:56] <ompaul> Telemachus, well, maybe you are careful it helps you be more careful :-) sudo is like a drug, use it for a week and you will be addicted :)
[11:56] <glacious> mwe: yes.  card will only send 85hz.  monitor can only use 75 @ that rez.  so it throttles back, but displays a constant error message.
[11:56] <talisein> glacious, what video driver are you using?
[11:56] <mwe> glacious: can you paste xorg.conf at pastebin?
[11:56] <glacious> navarone: i'd apprediate that.  thank you.  and i have tried going to the website, got the rates.
[11:56] <AbZ> -_-
[11:56] <talisein> !pastebin
[11:56] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:57] <glacious> talisein: not sure? :)
[11:57] <AbZ> I got the basic concept
[11:57] <nerv4012> hi
[11:57] <AbZ> but....
[11:57] <unf> does anyone any internet service that let me sincronize a calendar with my ubuntu?
[11:57] <mwe> glacious: can you paste your xorg.conf at pastebin?
[11:57] <glacious> mwe: yes, i'll have to boot back into Ubuntu, just in it on my laptop now.
[11:57] <AbZ> I'm needing some help as far as the command line goes
[11:57] <talisein> glacious, I was only going to say if you were using the proprietary nvidia drivers (not installed by default) you could use the UseEdidFreqs option
[11:57] <unf> *does anyone know
[11:57] <ompaul> AbZ, put it _all_ on one line so people can follow your thinking easily
[11:58] <glacious> talisein: ahh.  no, it detects my Raedon 9000 as is, and it 'works'.
[11:58] <nerv4012> just a stupid question wich has nothing to do on that channel but, is this correct english : I will make an office/email/web purpose of it ?
[11:58] <mwe> glacious: you're not in linux now?
[11:58] <fireonyx> I take it the forums are down again?
[11:58] <nerv4012> can you say that? or is it not right?
[11:58] <glacious> mwe: booting into it...
[11:58] <talisein> nerv4012, not really, sorry ;)
[11:58] <mwe> ok
[11:58] <ki4ikl> has anyone in here set up a webserver through a wireless belkin router?
[11:58] <fissy> does anyone know about recovering data from a formatted ext3 filesys?
[11:58] <ves> anyone know of any decent backups scripts/utilities? something which would like weekly backup important directories and quietely ask you for a dvdrw or something every now and again?
[11:58] <AbZ> sorry. Im just needing help installing aim on this thing because I dont quite understand how to work the command prompt
[11:58] <ompaul> nerv4012, no, please take that to #ubuntu-topic
[11:59] <ompaul> AbZ, why not use Gaim which can do aim and so much more
[11:59] <nerv4012> ok do you know a discuss channel where i could ask?
[11:59] <nerv4012> sorry :/
[11:59] <ompaul> nerv4012, >> #ubuntu-offtopic<< sorry ~I left out the off
[11:59] <AbZ> I was using gaim but I coudlnt find out whether ti would let me use voice. I wanted to do that
[11:59] <ompaul> ahh