[05:14] <Spanglegluppet> i have a 1st gen nonjailbroken ipod touch running the 2.2 firmware, and i want to sync it with ubuntu 8.10. any way to do this?
[05:15] <rrplay> bangalibabu:  firefox generally can leak a bit
[05:15] <DasEI> !ipod | Spanglegluppet
[05:15] <rrplay> bangalibabu:  are you using gnome firefox and media players
[05:15] <dotblank> bangalibabu: 512 isn't much but keeping firefox open for long periods of time can use up much more memory
[05:15] <azlon> DasEI: hrmm... not sure what you mean? are you talking about the GUI for my audio settings or are you talking about the tooltip when i hover over my sound icon?
[05:15] <DasEI> azlon: alsa-gui
[05:16] <azlon> oh, hold on
[05:16] <bangalibabu> gnome firefox and vlc and mplayer
[05:16] <dotblank> azlon: have you tried aplay -L
[05:16] <jbu311> hi all, when I go to download 8.10 64 bit version, it automatically makes me download ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso ... is that right?  I don't have an AMD processor, I have an intel core 2 quad
[05:16] <rrplay> bangalibabu:  another 512 or 256 stick ill do wonders
[05:17] <azlon> dotblank: ok, that listed all kinds of sound devices, but not my bluetooth
[05:17] <dotblank> jbu311: Intel copied the architecture of amd64, so yes it will work
[05:17] <dotblank> azlon: try aplay -l
[05:17] <ryan-c> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6840964 < can anyone help me with my serial io card?
[05:17] <bangalibabu> i need to install more memory?
[05:17] <rrplay> bangalibabu:  or try xfce or openbox wms
[05:18] <Huufarted> bangalibabu, it's a good idea to install additional RAM, especially as cheap as it is nowadays.
[05:18] <azlon> dotblank: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
[05:18] <azlon>   Subdevices: 0/1
[05:18] <DasEI> bangalibabu: that works so, but is very unconvienent, other specs of that pc ?
[05:18] <azlon>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[05:19] <DasEI> azlon:open a terminal..
[05:19] <DasEI> azlon: sudo apt-get install pastebin
[05:19] <dotblank> bangalibabu: Increasing the amount of ram also increases the life of a HD by not creating virtual ram
[05:19] <DasEI> azlon: sudo apt-get install pastebinit  *sorry
[05:19] <Vantrax> bangalibabu, if your having issues with ubuntu running slow try xubuntu, its the same, but using XFCE which is designed for low powered computers
[05:20] <bangalibabu> intel celeron D
[05:20] <DasEI> azlon: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[05:20] <lakotajames> anyone here know how to set up the head tracking plugin for compiz?
[05:20] <DasEI> azlon: give url here
[05:20] <azlon> DasEI: ok, hold on
[05:21] <DasEI> bangalibabu: yes, that works, but you mussn't have to many apps running in the same time, also vm's won't work well, see top and htop, when system is laggy
[05:22] <DasEI> !conky
[05:22] <DasEI> conky is a system-monitoring tool, bangalibabu
[05:22] <Huufarted> !conky
[05:22] <Huufarted> dasei, is conky command line or GUI based?
[05:23] <DasEI> Huufarted: gui
[05:23] <Huufarted> dasei, thanks.  :)
[05:23] <tweak66> okay i'm back
[05:23] <dotblank> Huufarted: it kinda like a desklet but very detailed
[05:23] <bangalibabu> thank you all guys
[05:23] <Huufarted> lol toying with htop right now.  That's awesome.
[05:23] <tweak66> http://pastebin.com/m7259f1ee <---- this is almost everything i could think of. I ubdated ubuntu and now internet doesn't work. i had to boot to windows to get here. any help please?
[05:24] <marko_> can someone please tell me how i can make my desktop background into a slideshow?
[05:24] <DasEI> Huufarted: man nice could be from interest, also
[05:24] <vijay> dotblank : thank you ,my issue fixed now
[05:24] <tweak66> dotblank: http://pastebin.com/m7259f1ee
[05:24] <Huufarted> DasEI, yes nice is really awesome.  I use it quite a bit.
[05:24] <dotblank> tweak66: is this a static IP or dynamic?
[05:24] <tweak66> dotblank: dhcp
[05:25] <DasEI> marko_: right click > desk-bckgrnd > dia show
[05:25] <Huufarted> tweak66, what's your default route?  netstat -rn
[05:25] <rrplay> !feh
[05:25] <tweak66> huufarted: i would have to boot to linux to execute that command
[05:26] <cyban> how do I change the theme manager to compiz?
[05:26] <marko_> DasEI...huh? nothig like it
[05:26] <pipegeek> So, ever since I upgraded to intrepid two months ago, I've been having this problem where qt4 apps (and openoffice) have completely blank menus.  They open, but there's no text in them at all.  This only happens when gnome is running.
[05:26] <dotblank> Huufarted: or use route
[05:26] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hey guys
[05:26] <pipegeek> I've googled around a while, and other people have experienced this, but nobody seems to know what it is.  Any ideas?
[05:26] <Huufarted> tweak66, one thing that really sticks out about your pastebin is the 'operation not permitted' when you try and ping the router
[05:26] <pipegeek> very, *very* irritating
[05:26] <pipegeek> makes opera hard to use
[05:26] <ohletmeinnowjesu> does anyone know a dvd authoring tool that will burn .uif images?
[05:26] <tweak66> yes i know :( but it works when i boot to windows
[05:27] <Scunizi> pipegeek: check your theme. change it to the typical gnome ubuntu default and see if you have the same problem
[05:27] <pipegeek> Nuked .gnome, .gnome2, .gconf to no effect
[05:27] <pipegeek> Scunizi: did
[05:27] <MiniTommyBrez> START KEYLOGGER
[05:27] <DasEI> marko_: right click on desktop > appearance settings > background > type  > dia show
[05:28] <azlon> DasEI: http://pastebin.com/f776d66af
[05:28] <Huufarted> tweak66, we need to see your default route (gateway in windows-speak).  Boot to linux and type 'netstat -an' and give us the results, please.
[05:28] <Scunizi> pipegeek: did you try to create a new user and see if it happens there?
[05:28] <Huufarted> tweak66, but before you do, give me a minute.
[05:28] <dotblank> tweak66: before you do can you past the output of ipconfig /all
[05:28] <ohletmeinnowjesu> ^bump
[05:28] <marko_> iDASEI m using Ubuntu 8.10, the stuff u just mentioned doesnt seem to show up
[05:29] <tweak66> yes i can dotblank
[05:29] <Huufarted> tweak66, the command dotblank wants is typed in Windows, not Linux
[05:29] <pipegeek> Scunizi, Aha!  (yes, I did, it does)  It happens specifically when *compiz* is running
[05:29] <pipegeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=977745&highlight=openoffice+compiz+font&page=3
[05:29] <jonathon_> hey, i just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop
[05:29] <mejobloggs> i have ubuntu server, and installed ubuntu-desktop, but the desktop runs automatically when i turn the pc on. How can I set it so I have to manually start it?
[05:29] <pipegeek> :( I like my eye candy
[05:29] <jonathon_> ...and /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty
[05:29] <jonathon_> why would that be?
[05:30] <fr500_> mejobloggs: try BUM
[05:30] <Huufarted> dotblank, you thinking what I'm thinking?  No default route?
[05:30] <mejobloggs> fr500_: thanks
[05:30] <fr500_> mejobloggs: and well i guess there's a fancy way but i did chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:30] <DasEI> see line 108 and following, 150 of yor paste, azlon
[05:30] <jigp> hello how to upgrade skype?my skype is old 2. something
[05:31] <tweak66> dotblank:http://pastebin.ca/1353289
[05:31] <dotblank> Huufarted: but his windows box has one, unless he has a custom /etc/networking/interfaces it should pickup the route
[05:31] <DasEI> azlon: did you check the harware list for your model ?
[05:31] <jigp> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:31] <TruthTac1> ive got ubuntu 8.04 whats the best way to upgrade to 8.10
[05:31] <Huufarted> dotblank, yes but SHOULD is the key word.
[05:31] <DasEI> TruthTac1: fresh install
[05:31] <TruthTac1> thanks
[05:31] <azlon> DasEI: hold on
[05:31] <pipegeek> ugh.  Turns out it's something to do with the nvidia-glx-96 driver.  Sucks.
[05:32] <Huufarted> tweak66, please boot to Ubuntu and give us the results of 'netstat -rn'
[05:32] <TBotNik> DasEI: On VMW?  Let me get on that machine and I'll capture it.
[05:32] <mejobloggs> if i have no graphics card, will i still be able to vnc into ubuntu desktop?
[05:32] <tweak66> ok, i shall brb
[05:32] <Huufarted> thank you, tweak66
[05:32] <TBotNik> DasEI: Sorry had to step away a minute.
[05:32] <endial> Anyone know of a way to get IE on Ubuntu  I have wine with full updates
[05:32] <pipegeek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/297836
[05:32] <dotblank> tweak66: Huufarted it must be a routing issue, try posting the output of "route"
[05:32] <tweak66> just type route in cli?
[05:32] <DasEI> TBotNik: where are you at now ?
[05:32] <Huufarted> dotblank, he's already doing it
[05:32] <tweak66> o ok brnb
[05:33] <dotblank> Huufarted: tweak66 nvm
[05:33] <danbhfive> how does one hammer out harddisk errors?  ie, how do I "repair" badblocks, or determine that the drive is dieing, or I dunno
[05:33] <DasEI> !fsck
[05:33] <Huufarted> dotblank, the difference with 'netstat -rn' and 'route' is that netstat -rn won't try and reverse-lookup the names on the IPs.
[05:33] <dotblank> danbhfive: If your dmesg shows alot of IO errors it may indicate a failing drive
[05:33] <danbhfive> I've tried fsck -cc...  but it doesnt give much info
[05:34] <DasEI> danbhfive: also e2fsck
[05:34] <dotblank> Huufarted: usefull to know
[05:34] <danbhfive> DasEI: e2fsck is the fsck for ext*
[05:34] <DasEI> danbhfive: see man e2fsck, it's an extended fsck
[05:34] <danbhfive> dotblank: the problem that I'm having is that I will get lots of errors on one partition, but other partitions will be fine
[05:35] <Huufarted> dotblank:  try this: 'route' and then type 'netstat -r' and compare the results
[05:35] <DasEI> danbhfive: use un UNmounted partis only, f.e.: e2fsck -p /dev/whatever
[05:35] <Huufarted> dotblank:  and then try 'netstat -rn' and you'll see what I mean.  I prefer it without the names and instead just the IPs
[05:35] <dotblank> Huufarted: Its the same, is it an alias in bash?
[05:35] <CUBeR64> i have a question, my 8.10 livecd pops out when its at the loading bar :S
[05:36] <Huufarted> dotblank, not an alias, just a different command.  Identical results, though.  It's faster when it doesn't have to do a lookup, however.
[05:36] <DasEI> sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; danbhfive
[05:36] <dotblank> Huufarted: yes much
[05:37] <DasEI> CUBeR64: checked the media for defects ?
[05:37] <TBotNi1> DasEI: OK on U box now
[05:37] <dotblank> CUBeR64: during shutdown or startup
[05:37] <azlon> DasEI: what do you mean check the hardware list? i ran hciconfig -a and it gives me http://pastebin.com/m66aeb13
[05:37] <CUBeR64> startup
[05:37] <DasEI> !hardware | azlon
[05:37] <mikeypizano> i hate to be a noob but can someone walk me threw making a second hdd my /home?
[05:38] <CUBeR64> and no disc errors found
[05:38] <TBotNi1> DasEI: Downloaded every version of VMW from 1.00 to 1.8 but running 2.5
[05:38] <dotblank> DasEI: CUBeR64 perhaps you could start by copying the entire disk to memory
[05:38] <Huufarted> bah, hurry up tweak66.  :)  Getting sleepy, but don't want to leave him hanging.
[05:39] <w1> ad
[05:39] <default> often the /dev designations for some of my drives are changing from boot to boot... so my automounting in fstab isn't working..  what's going on?  how do I keep this from happening?
[05:39] <CUBeR64> dotblank: to ram? how
[05:39] <dieselsmoke> Huufarted: i think tweak needs a default gateway, route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> eth0
[05:39] <dotblank> Huufarted: its weird that his kernel update messed this up. He may have to pick an earlier kernel from the grub menu and version lock it
[05:40] <DasEI> TBotNi1:(ibex I assume) get the latest vmwareplayer from their website and install it
[05:40] <KDB9000> I need some help right away. My cat jumped up on my lap when I had my laptop in my lap and managed to press the shift and delete key followed by enter and deleted my timesheet excel document
[05:40] <Huufarted> dieselsmoke, I think so as well, but he's finding out right now.  Didn't want to have him add the gw until we were sure it was screwed up.
[05:40] <acegikmo> Ok, question: anyone using evolution to synch to google calendar?
[05:40] <nickrud> default, use UUID's for identifying partions in fstab rather than the /dev
[05:40] <KDB9000> is there any way I can recover it?
[05:40] <dieselsmoke> Huufarted: good thinking.
[05:40] <dotblank> CUBeR64: I am not familiar with all the boot options but I believe it is possible
[05:40] <wrektjet> if a particular piece of hardware isnt listed on the hardware list it doesnt necc mean it wont work rite?
[05:40] <mikeypizano> man why does gparted make my system crawl but on lived it never does
[05:40] <DasEI> TBotNi1 : (ibex)
[05:40] <Scunizi> acegikmo: I only have it working one direction.. down into my pc but not up to google.
[05:41] <CUBeR64> dotblank: k, ill give it a whirl, thanks
[05:41] <Huufarted> dieselsmoke, I work support for a company quite a bit and when you throw too much tech at people their head explodes and ugly things happen to servers.  :)
[05:41] <dieselsmoke> Huufarted: this is true.
[05:41] <acegikmo> I've got it going with evolution's new "google calendar" setting, but when I go offline it doesn't display anymore :(
[05:41] <error404notfound> anyone has idea what could be wrong : http://pastebin.com/m54f00ea8
[05:41] <TBotNi1> DasEI: Right now VMW is not working at all on U Box.  Time/Load Icon comes up for a while 2-3 mins, then goes away, but no session.
[05:42] <KDB9000> is there anyway to recover a document that has been deleted using shift+delete? I know it is perminate delete but I believe there are programs to recover perminately deleted files in windows, but i don't know for ubuntu
[05:42] <DasEI> TBotNi1: gcc installed ?
[05:42] <cyban> anyone able to tell me how to start Compiz when system starts?
[05:42] <nickrud> !undelete | KDB9000
[05:43] <DasEI> sudo apt-get install build-essential g++ g++-4.3 gcc gcc-4.3 libstdc++6-4.3-dev  , TBotNi1
[05:43] <Supermm> after you record on alien area , how do you play or get the list of demos /
[05:43] <Supermm> ?
[05:43] <danbhfive> Supermm: I think its just /play name
[05:44] <Supermm> danbhfive: just like Q3?
[05:44] <TBotNi1> DasEI: Been following 2 HOWTOs and have thread posted on my results at:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6822613#post6822613
[05:44] <cjae> how do you edit bug report again? I dont see the edit button
[05:44] <danbhfive> Supermm: isn't alien arena Quake3 based?
[05:45] <nickrud> DasEI, build-essential will pull all that other stuff as well
[05:45] <wrektjet> could s/o tell me what "Will hang loading "nvdia" using 177.82 drivers as Jan-2-2009 " means?
[05:45] <tweak66> dotblank:huufarted:http://pastebin.ca/1353303
[05:45] <Huufarted> tweak66! Whatcha got for us?
[05:45] <tweak66> :)
[05:45] <nickrud> wrektjet, it means don't use 177.82 drivers with whatever hangs ;)
[05:46] <Huufarted> slow site, give me a sec
[05:46] <CUBeR64> dotblank: issue solved, thank you :)
[05:46] <tweak66> np
[05:46] <DasEI> nickrud: good to know
[05:46] <wrektjet> hangs means freezes up?
[05:46] <Huufarted> tweak66, you are going to want to kill me.  I meant to have you type 'netstat -rn'
[05:46] <tweak66> hahaha
[05:46] <nihilist> high
[05:46] <Supermm> danbhfive yes
[05:46] <FaMott> !killall5
[05:46] <FaMott> huh.
[05:46] <tweak66> as long as u stick around it's ok
[05:46] <nihilist> i cannot run gadmin-proftpd segfault
[05:46] <DasEI> TBotNi1: you now that the player doesn't build vm's ?
[05:46] <Huufarted> tweak66, I am sticking around, but not for too much longer.  Get to it
[05:47] <dotblank> Huufarted: tweak66 lol perhaps route would have been better...
[05:47] <Huufarted> tweak66, you can blame me, though.  dotblank, we need to see the IPs, not the names, though.
[05:47] <tweak66> ok so type route?
[05:47] <cjae> how do I edit my bug report again don't see the button
[05:47] <Huufarted> tweak66:  route -n
[05:47] <Supermm> danbhfive: I tried /record apple, said it was recording.  Then I /quit and reopened it, and now it wont /play apple
[05:47] <dotblank> Huufarted: true
[05:47] <wrektjet> is there a more idiot-level ubuntu room?
[05:47] <tweak66> rount -n ok
[05:47] <Huufarted> tweak66, dotblank:  'route -n' and 'netstat -rn' are the same thing
[05:47] <cjae> found it
[05:47] <nickrud> wrektjet, this is it :) and I missed your earlier, hang usually means freeze
[05:48] <Huufarted> tweak66, route not rount
[05:48] <dotblank> tweak66: Huufarted If all else fails you could try selecting an older kernel from the grub menu
[05:48] <nickrud> !who wrektjet
[05:48] <Huufarted> go go go
[05:48] <nickrud> !who | wrektjet
[05:48] <DasEI> wrektjet: ubu is always smart, /list for channel list, #ubuntu-beginners, I think
[05:48] <tweak66> dotblank: i have.. :( all the way back to the first one
[05:48] <Huufarted> tweak66, go go go.  :)  It's late here
[05:48] <dotblank> tweak66: did compile your own drivers?
[05:48] <danbhfive> Supermm: I used to use /stop to stop the recording.  I kinda forget how I got it to play.  I thought it was just /play.  But thats all I remember.  Maybe /quit causes the recording to be discarded?
[05:48] <Huufarted> dotblank, wait.  one thing at a time bud.
[05:48] <TBotNi1> DasEI: Catch you on flip, off 2 bed. Have 6am wakeup.
[05:48] <DasEI> TBotNi1: did build essential help out ?
[05:49] <DasEI> TBotNi1: k, I'm making through, see ya
[05:49] <Huufarted> dotblank, we're going to make his head explode.  :)
[05:49] <pipegeek> For the record, 'option "RenderAccel" "false"' fixed the problem.  Don't mind the slight 2d rendering performance hit
[05:49] <dotblank> Huufarted: if the kernel doesn't matter maybe its something in modules-restricted?
[05:49] <pipegeek> it's a crappy card anyway
[05:49] <Huufarted> dotblank, I don't know.  That's out of my scope.
[05:49] <Supermm> danbhfive: perhaps.  I'll try stop.  I also notice the repo one isn't the latest one (as with most programs :-\ )
[05:50] <wrektjet> ok thanks everyone for the help tonight. i will hopefully succeed in my project to utilize linux.
[05:50] <dotblank> Huufarted: He may have to blacklist his current driver
[05:50] <Huufarted> dotblank, I'm a network guy and BASIC linux guy.  I know a little about a lot and a lot about a little, but not a lot about a lot.  :)
[05:50] <squarebracket> if i have two directories, is there a way to show the contents of both in a different folder? (like using links or something)
[05:50] <DasEI> Huufarted: dotblank : works the other way round too, like a remark like mine in a support channel :D
[05:50] <dotblank> Huufarted: studying for my CCNA
[05:51] <Huufarted> dotblank, kudos to you.  I've heard Cisco certs are tough stuff.
[05:52] <dotblank> Huufarted: It took a CCENT but I thought it was harder then it was almost got 100%, but subnets are huge in it
[05:52] <Supermm> danbhfive: that didn't work either.
[05:53] <dotblank> Huufarted: OSPF, MPLS, Frame-relay, cdp, VTP, and trunking might explode this channel :)
[05:57] <tweak66> huufarted:dotblank:http://pastebin.ca/1353308
[05:57] <Huufarted> tweak66, is <IP_ADDRESS> your router?
[05:57] <tweak66> huufarted:yes
[05:58] <dotblank> Huufarted: Whats an APICA address doing in there?
[05:58] <Huufarted> dotblank: I was wondering the same.  My wireless pulls that subnet when I screw up the connection encryption
[05:59] <dotblank> Huufarted: usually that address is only used if it can't find an address
[05:59] <Huufarted> dotblank, but mine's got it as well
[05:59] <dotblank> Huufarted: mine doesn't
[05:59] <Huufarted> dotblank, i have 2 NICs in mine, one does not have a connection.  That's probably why.
[05:59] <dotblank> Huufarted: wait yes I do
[05:59] <Huufarted> dotblank:  lol
[05:59] <cjae> what can I use to see if a specific app has memory leak?
[06:00] <dotblank> Huufarted: but that metric will make it never come into efect
[06:00] <Huufarted> dotblank, that's correct
[06:01] <dotblank> tweak66: do you have a firewall on that linux pc? or have you used iptables?
[06:01] <Huufarted> tweak66, I'm at a loss.  Your network settings themselves look good to go
[06:01] <tweak66> dotblank: nope
[06:01] <Huufarted> tweak66, dotblank, dieselsmoke, good night.  I'm out for tonight.  Tweak66, I apologize, but those are all of the ideas I have.
[06:01] <tweak66> thank you huu
[06:02] <dotblank> tweak66: do you have shorewal
[06:02] <tweak66> never heard of it dotblank
[06:02] <mkokotovich> Does anyone here know a lot about modprobe? Especially the process it uses to select which module to choose if there are two present?
[06:03] <tweak66> i really don't wanna try re-installing and get the same problem..
[06:03] <madhatter1> Hey everyone.. Sorry if this isnt allowed, but my friend is getting rid of a lot of servers in his datacenter and asked me to pass along the list to friends if they were interested.  http://maddhat.com/etc/forums/Server_Sale_March_2009.pdf   I was thinking of building a vmware lab with ubuntu distros running to test network security on one.. ive always wanted to try ubuntu on decent server equipment :-)
[06:03] <cjae> !leak
[06:03] <mkokotovich> I'm trying to use madwifi ath_pci, and modprobe keeps loading the kernel version, not my compiled one
[06:03] <Huufarted> !spam | madhatter1
[06:04] <dotblank> tweak66: hmm it must be iptables or somthing
[06:04] <tweak66> i don't know what those are lol
[06:04] <Cpudan80> anybody know how to set the mime type of a file?
[06:04] <StevenX> Hello, i would like to know how I can set up Ubuntu so that I can see my NTFS hard drive from boot-up. i can see it now only after I choose it in "Places," and then it is on for the entire time, but not before.
[06:05] <tweak66> dotblank: should i try and see if the ubuntu livecd boots and gives me internet access? i bet it does...
[06:05] <nickrud> !fstab | StevenX (you'd set it up in this file, so it mounts on boot)
[06:06] <niku> StevenX, the easiest way is to open up a file called the /etc/mtab and look for the line with the name of your ntfs drive. Copy this line and then paste it into the end of the /etc/fstab file. This will do it for you.
[06:06] <StevenX> niku, thank you very very much.
[06:06] <dotblank> tweak66: try running these commands "sudo iptables -F"
[06:06] <niku> np.
[06:07] <nickrud> StevenX, the only thing I'd say extra over niku is using the UUID instead of the /dev/<device> notation in the mount line
[06:07] <dotblank> tweak66: and h/o im building the next command
[06:07] <tweak66> dotblank: ok, i will brb
[06:07] <tweak66> o ok lol
[06:07] <boingboing> hello.
[06:07] <dft> !UUID|StevenX
[06:07] <StevenX> nickrud, and where would I be able to find the UUID?
[06:07] <dotblank> tweak66: wait
[06:07] <StevenX> hehe. thanks dft
[06:07] <nickrud> StevenX, see above :) and the fstab page has some info as well
[06:07] <dft> StevenX: nikrud is right about UUID'
[06:08] <dft> I use it with all my usb sticks
[06:08] <dft> much more reliable
[06:08] <kraut> moin
[06:08] <dotblank> tweak66: also run this 'sudo echo "auto eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp" > /etc/networking/interfaces'
[06:08] <nickrud> but I'm going to try to remember that mtab advice, a nice quick way to get a default line
[06:08] <gishaust> Is the a ubuntu that  I can install on my two gig flash drive so I can run ubuntu  in virtual environment so that I do have to restart my windows machine at school
[06:09] <dotblank> tweak66: also come back with output from lsmod
[06:09] <boingboing> I'm using an Acer Aspire 5570 laptop that runs on Intrepid. I've installed wifi-radar on it and I can now detect wireless networks. The problem is, while I can connect to the network, I can't visit websites. Please help me. Thanks a lot!
[06:09] <StevenX> ok. I found the mtab with the line i need to add to fstab: "/dev/sda1 /media/disk fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0"
[06:09] <nickrud> !usb | gishaust
[06:09] <StevenX> Now i will replace "/dev/sda1" with the UUID.
[06:09] <dotblank> tweak66: thats all
[06:09] <gishaust> thanks alot
[06:09] <tweak66> dotblank: so just type lsmod?
[06:10] <dotblank> tweak66: or lsmod > textfile.txt if you want to save it
[06:10] <tweak66> ok brb
[06:12] <StevenX> nickrud, when adding to fstab (no worries, already made a backup), should I add "F224B35424B31B15 /media/disk fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0"
[06:12] <StevenX> or should I add UUID=F224B35424B31B15 /media/disk fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[06:13] <nickrud> StevenX, (backspacing) second version
[06:13] <StevenX> nickrud, sorry, what?
[06:13] <nickrud> the second line you gave, with UUID=
[06:13] <StevenX> StevenX, oh, got it. Thanks. didn't get the (backspacing)
[06:13] <StevenX> right.
[06:13] <StevenX> thanks agian. gonna restart see if it works.
[06:14] <StevenX> much thanks everyone that helped!
[06:14] <nickrud> StevenX, no restart needed
[06:14] <nickrud> StevenX, unmount it, then run    sudo mount -a
[06:15] <Guest42490> if i use non propriatory drivers for radeon and compiz video flickers anyone know why
[06:15] <Flynsarmy> After a while of my laptop being turned on, some programs no longer have sound. how do i restart pulseaudio? I tried sudo killall pulseaudio then pulseaudio but i get 'Operation not permitted'. Same if i tried sudo pulseaudio
[06:16] <paul68> is there a program that allows me to check which ports on the network are open?
[06:16] <unr3a1> hey all
[06:16] <Flynsarmy> Sudo pulseaudio returns 'Failed to find original dlopen loader. This program is not intended to be run as root. Error opening PCM deivce - device or resource busy
[06:16] <unr3a1> how do I edit a gnome menu item to run as sudo?
[06:17] <dieselsmoke> paul68: in a terminal, netstat -tunap
[06:17] <unr3a1> like what do I put in the command properties of the menu item so that it promts me for a root password to run the app as root?
[06:17] <dotblank> unr3a1: instead of sudo use gksu
[06:17] <unr3a1> ah
[06:17] <unr3a1> ok
[06:18] <sebsebseb> Guest42490:  ATI or Nivdia?
[06:18] <dotblank> sebsebseb: nvidia
[06:19] <dotblank> sebsebseb: whoops thought if you were asking wich is better
[06:19] <unr3a1> dotblank: thank you
[06:19] <unr3a1> dotblank: that worked for me
[06:19] <paul68> dieselsmoke: thanks perhaps you can help me with the next question to my boss is using a proxy server and blocked all ports, I had to ask him to get access to port 8001 for example to use konversation is there a way that I could use this port to connect through ssh?
[06:19] <tweak66> dotblank: http://pastebin.ca/1353322
[06:20] <dieselsmoke> paul68: not without the admin changing the default ssh port.
[06:20] <dotblank> tweak66: you seem to be running some form of nat
[06:20] <TruthTac1> what do i open a bin file in linux with
[06:20] <tweak66> nat?
[06:21] <tweak66> dotblank: nat?
[06:21] <dotblank> tweak66: Network Address Translation, its what routers use to allow mult. IP addresses on one public IP
[06:21] <dotblank> tweak66: do you have any form network sharing enabled?
[06:22] <tweak66> dotblank: nope i do not. if i do network share, it's ftp
[06:22] <quibbler> TruthTac1: make it executable and double click it
[06:22] <dieselsmoke> TruthTac1: chmod 755 filename.bin, then ./filename.bin  -all from the terminal in the bin's directory.
[06:23] <TruthTac1> thanks
[06:23] <dotblank> tweak66: This seems to be a common problem for shorewal users. that program seems to install those modules that use nat
[06:23] <dieselsmoke> TruthTac1: quibbler's will work too.
[06:23] <tweak66> dotblank:  hm... so what do i do? lol,, i find it strange that windows will accept it and linux will not
[06:24] <dotblank> tweak66: ok
[06:24] <dotblank> tweak66: two commands
[06:25] <dotblank> tweak66: sudo apt-get remove shorewall (if it removes somthing then that was the problem)
[06:25] <Unirgy> is there an app that tracks cpu processes/windows over time and gives some kind of report of what was used?
[06:25] <dotblank> tweak66: 'sudo echo -e "auto eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp" > /etc/networking/interfaces' notice the "-e" forgot that last time
[06:25] <pl1> unirgy: top
[06:26] <Unirgy> pl1: that doesn't remember window title changes
[06:26] <pl1> oh..
[06:26] <Unirgy> i'm talking about something like procrastitracker
[06:26] <Unirgy> but it's for windows
[06:26] <dotblank> tweak66: if it removes shorewall then restart and it should all work
[06:27] <tweak66> dotblank: okay. i will do this. so this line just like that: sudo echo -e "auto eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp" > /etc/networking/interfaces
[06:27] <dotblank> tweak66: yes
[06:27] <tweak66> dotblank: thank you. brb
[06:28] <paul68> dieselsmoke: the default port of ssh is port 22, the goal here is to go to my free adress at dyndns and use port 8001 to get connected to my pc at home however It doesn.t allow me to do so?
[06:28] <NDS|Brandon> wow, nice big channel
[06:28] <dotblank> NDS|Brandon: yup
[06:28] <dft> jeezuz, huge update just released for hardy
[06:29] <dft> NDS|Brandon: that's what she said...hey O!
[06:29] <NDS|Brandon> Can anyone tell me of any compatibily issues with a Dell Optiplex GX270
[06:29] <NDS|Brandon> I have tried three Linux Distros
[06:29] <NDS|Brandon> But non have worked
[06:29] <dft> where have they failed?
[06:29] <squarebracket> ls | if [ -h ]; then echo $(what goes here); fi;
[06:29] <NDS|Brandon> As tehy are starting up to the desktop
[06:29] <H3l1c0pt3r> NDS|Brandon: the other distros arent as user friendly as ubuntu
[06:30] <dotblank> NDS|Brandon: odd i ws going to try that tomorrow, i got a livecd of fedora to work though
[06:30] <NDS|Brandon> It was Mint and Fedora
[06:30] <NDS|Brandon> and they froze at the same place
[06:30] <dft> You'll probably have more luck with this distro
[06:30] <NDS|Brandon> it was like Sector 34564 or something
[06:30] <dft> during installation?
[06:30] <NDS|Brandon> Ok, Ill try this one too.
[06:30]  * NDS|Brandon hopes
[06:30] <dotblank> NDS|Brandon: the problem i had with fedora is that it was setting the res to high and has some issues with the gfx card
[06:30] <NDS|Brandon> No
[06:30] <H3l1c0pt3r> hdd failure?
[06:31] <NDS|Brandon> as it was booting, past the splash screen, but before the desktop
[06:31] <nihilist> cool
[06:31] <NDS|Brandon> No
[06:31] <NDS|Brandon> Its a good HDD
[06:31] <nihilist> i fixed the proglem with bprftpdp
[06:31] <nihilist> gproftpd
[06:31] <NDS|Brandon> errr, newbs terms?
[06:31] <nihilist> the problem was the lazy packet watcher didnt update to the actual package from the writer of the software
[06:32] <NDS|Brandon> :| still not helping
[06:32]  * NDS|Brandon wishes PC's came preinstalled with Linux
[06:32] <dft> NDS|Brandon: all "pnp" settings in the bios are disabled?
[06:32] <dft> NDS|Brandon: they do
[06:32] <H3l1c0pt3r> NDS|Brandon: they do, go to www.dell.com
[06:32] <NDS|Brandon> I think so
[06:33] <dft> Acer Aspire ONe, and flavours of Dell hw as well
[06:33] <NDS|Brandon> H3l1c0pt3r: I meant I wish they all did
[06:33] <H3l1c0pt3r> NDS|Brandon: that would never happen, linux is free and computer companies get money to have windows pre installed
[06:33] <NDS|Brandon> Its so much better than Windows :|
[06:33] <NDS|Brandon> I am allowed to wish :D
[06:33] <H3l1c0pt3r> glad you feel that way
[06:34] <dotblank> NDS|Brandon: your best bet is netbooks
[06:34] <DigitalKiwi> my laptop came with ubuntu
[06:34] <dotblank> DigitalKiwi: system76?
[06:34] <NDS|Brandon> I am going to try Ubuntu and if that doesnt work, I will be back :)
[06:34] <DigitalKiwi> dell xps m1530
[06:35] <DigitalKiwi> but i deleted it and installed arch \o/
[06:35] <NDS|Brandon> Hmmm.... My HDD wouldnt need free space for the Live CD would it?
[06:35] <dotblank> NDS|Brandon: no, but needs ram
[06:35] <H3l1c0pt3r> NDS|Brandon: live cd runs off the cd, the rest is just ram
[06:35] <NDS|Brandon> 1.5 GB of it
[06:35] <NDS|Brandon> So that should work :|
[06:36] <H3l1c0pt3r> right
[06:36] <H3l1c0pt3r> default linux needs less resources than windows to run
[06:36] <NDS|Brandon> And it still goes faster ^-^
[06:36] <DigitalKiwi> H3l1c0pt3r: wut?
[06:37] <DigitalKiwi> maybe default ubuntu...
[06:37] <dotblank> XP compared to ubuntu is unbelievable. Ubuntu is sooo much faster
[06:37] <NDS|Brandon> Ubuntu asks for 256
[06:37] <NDS|Brandon> XP asks for like 512
[06:37] <tweak66> dotblank: http://pastebin.com/m57ce6218
[06:37] <dotblank> tweak66: how goes?
[06:37] <tweak66> not good lol
[06:37] <dotblank> tweak66: :(
[06:38] <bigjagolo> i have a new 4gb ram 220gb hd laptop
[06:38] <dotblank> tweak66: the linux live cd shold work though
[06:38] <bigjagolo> whats the recommended swap siz ?
[06:38] <NDS|Brandon> 512
[06:38] <NDS|Brandon> mb
[06:38] <Cyrano_De> anyone ever see an 8.10 install that would not let you change password?
[06:38] <bigjagolo> really? someone told me about 5gb
[06:38] <tweak66> hm.. yeah it should. i wonder what the issue is.. :(
[06:38] <DigitalKiwi> are you planning to suspsend to disk?
[06:38] <nihilist> just type passwd
[06:39] <nihilist> sudo passwd or something
[06:39] <bigjagolo> DigitalKiwi: meaning hybernate etc?
[06:39] <DigitalKiwi> not etc but yes hibernate
[06:39] <bigjagolo> DigitalKiwi: then yes
[06:39] <dotblank> tweak66: some software is messing this up, don't know what
[06:39] <tweak66> dotblank:hm.. yeah it should. i wonder what the issue is.. :(
[06:39] <DigitalKiwi> then make it something over 4 gig
[06:39] <bigjagolo> k,  lucky number 7?
[06:39] <tweak66> hm.. should i re-install?
[06:39] <bigjagolo> 7gb ok ?
[06:40] <DigitalKiwi> 4.2-4.5 or something
[06:40] <dotblank> tweak66: yes, but make sure it wrks in live
[06:40] <Cyrano_De> when I type passwd and type my current password it imediatly returns with password changed but does not change it
[06:40] <bigjagolo> ok thanks
[06:40] <otg> kikuikyuj
[06:40] <otg> hgfgfbvdghbgh
[06:40] <Cyrano_De> sudo passwd username does the same.
[06:40] <tweak66> oaky i will do... :(:( let u know how it turns out
[06:40] <bazhang> otg, english here
[06:40] <otg> 78
[06:40] <dotblank> tweak66: I hate having to reinstall linux.. its such a rare event for me now
[06:42] <Cyrano_De> so I need to change my password as it has expired everywhere but the system will not allow it.
[06:42] <Myrtti> bigjagolo: swap size should be the atleast the same as your ram, if you plan to hibernate your computer
[06:42] <ubuntugeek> how do I retreve my menus ...they have disappeared Alt+F2 does'nt work
[06:42] <dotblank> ubuntugeek: are you using compiz?
[06:43] <ubuntugeek> no
[06:43] <dotblank> ubuntugeek: try logging back in with ctl+backspace
[06:43] <mike> flicker video and compix
[06:43] <Myrtti> bigjagolo: my rule of thumb: swap is double the amount of RAM up until 2G RAM, >2GB as much as RAM
[06:43] <Johnn``> i have a question... i have ubuntu 8.04 installed with the GNOME desktop enviroment.. id like to know if i can install xfce as optional desktop envirment alongside gnome??
[06:43] <Cyrano_De> any ideas?
[06:43] <quibbler> NDS|Brandon: read this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/57454  and try the alternate iso cd from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[06:43] <Cyrano_De> john yes
[06:43] <Johnn``> how do i do this?
[06:44] <Johnn``> through apt-get?? aptitutde??
[06:44] <ubuntugeek> tried that didn't work either
[06:44] <Cyrano_De> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:44] <Johnn``> okay when i do this and its installed
[06:44] <Johnn``> how do i change between them?
[06:44] <dotblank> ubuntugeek: have you tried deleting your panal config files?
[06:44] <Matthias`> hey guys, can someone tell me the line to create a SSH socks5 tunnel on my dedicated server? (so i can use <IP_ADDRESS>:7777 as a socks5 ip/port on my own pc)
[06:44] <Cyrano_De> at the login screen there will be a session menu.
[06:45] <Cyrano_De> select xfce from that and login
[06:45] <Johnn``> okay
[06:45] <Johnn``> right now
[06:45] <Johnn``> i have the login screen disabled
[06:45] <Johnn``> will it still work or do i need to reenable it?
[06:45] <Cyrano_De> gdm will ask if you want to make it default or just this once.
[06:46] <Johnn``> oh okay
[06:46] <Johnn``> i bet it would be easier to just renable the login right?
[06:46] <Cyrano_De> you need to reenable it.
[06:46] <Johnn``> okay then
[06:46] <dotblank> ubuntugeek: try this rm -r ~/.gconf/apps/panel/*
[06:46] <Cyrano_De> generally speaking auto logins should be avoided
[06:47] <Matthias`> hey guys, can someone tell me the line to create a SSH socks5 tunnel on my dedicated server? (so i can use <IP_ADDRESS>:7777 as a socks5 ip/port on my own pc)
[06:47] <Johnn``> i kno but since im the only one using this i usually have it disabled
[06:47] <Johnn``> but i can see why its important
[06:47] <Johnn``> ty
[06:47] <quibbler> ubuntugeek: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41640
[06:47] <Cyrano_De> yw
[06:48] <Cyrano_De> ah well guess i will have to digg into pam.
[06:48] <dinesh372> ubuntu 8.10 came with tclx8.3 i want to install 8.4 version
[06:49] <dinesh372> ubuntu 8.10 came with tclx8.3 i want to install 8.4 version  how can i get 8.4 version
[06:49] <Cyrano_De> I may cheat and copy my /etc.shadow entry from another system this time around.
[06:49] <default> where does synaptic save the deb files?
[06:50] <ubuntugeek> i'll try that one later . I recovered main menu but it includes places and system
[06:53] <david__> why hello all
[06:53] <quibbler> default: /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:53] <default> thanks
[06:54] <david__> anyone mind answering a quick question for me?
[06:54] <quibbler> !ask | david__
[06:55] <david__> in my update manager it says i have 261 updates but when i go to update it updates about 2 of them and then stops
[06:56] <ericstewart> I'm attempting to build glibc 2.18.4. I'm getting the following error
[06:56] <ericstewart> http://paste.ubuntu.com/126586/
[06:56] <david__> then i get this message W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/perl/perl-base_5.10.0-11.1ubuntu2.2_i386.deb
[06:56] <ericstewart> using ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-libiconv
[06:57] <hechu> david__, maybe your repository is updating or something, try to change another one.
[06:58] <cjae> !recordradio
[06:58] <cjae> !info recordradio
[06:58] <cjae> &%$%^$^&
[06:59] <cjae> what else can I use to make amarok use streamripper?
[06:59] <ericstewart> I've build and installed libiconv twice and verified it exists in /usr/local/lib
[06:59] <akhil_> I want to write an application which saves any text that i receive on gnome-phone-manager. Is there any easy way to do it? Specifically i want to know how to extract text appearing on some windows.
[07:00] <IdentifyTarget> how can I use apt to install packages that have been updated but aren't in the repository?
[07:01] <quibbler> david__: maybe change your update server and try again
[07:01] <Nastya`> good day! Could you help me with 2-monitor's problem?  It output my presentation on full screen mode one half of slide in one monitor and another in secound. How can I output full screen mode only in one monitor?
[07:03] <dft> !AD
[07:03] <hechu> !source
[07:03] <dft> !Active Directory
[07:03] <dft> !ActiveDirectory
[07:04] <Seveas> !ad is <alias> activedirectory
[07:04] <mreynold> Hey all.  I've been running 8.04 for a while, using mdadm + USB attached drives (raid-1).  I fixed a prior issue with the USB drives not spinning up in time by adding rootdelay=30 to my boot params.  After recently upgrading (I added 2 new drives, created a new array) and rebooting, it seems like rootdelay isn't waiting the requisite 30 seconds like it used (also upgraded my kernel).
[07:05] <mreynold> Has rootdelay been deprecated or is there another work-around I should be using?
[07:05] <SaLiFa> hey guys i need some help
[07:07] <michael> Hello, does anyone know of a way to easily make a single pdf from a folder of 300+ jpegs?
[07:07] <SaLiFa> i just installed ubuntu 8.10 - but i used to have ubuntu 7.04 before(which isnt upgradeable) - so i formatted the harddrive and installed 8.10 - but the problem is that the bootmanager wasnt installed with the 8.10 installation - so i cant choose which os i want to boot up - i would like to use the vista boot manager which is why i didnt install the ubuntu boot manager - so now whenever i start my comp it says the boot manager doesnt
[07:07] <NDS|Brandon> Anyone have a website that lists the compatability?
[07:07] <bazhang> !hcl
[07:08] <NDS|Brandon> wow, only one OP
[07:08] <NDS|Brandon> and its a bot :D
[07:09] <DigitalKiwi> start doing stuff to get banned and see if your hypothesis stands true
[07:09] <Seveas> (it does not :))
[07:09] <SaLiFa> so.. can anyone help me out?
[07:09] <rww> NDS|Brandon: #ubuntu operators don't op themselves unless they're in the middle of doing op stuff. There are some here :)
[07:09] <Flannel> NDS|Brandon: That's freenode policy, by the way.
[07:10] <NDS|Brandon> oh
[07:10] <michael> SaLiFa what are the advantages of the vista boot manager vs grub?
[07:10]  * NDS|Brandon has been on quakenet to long
[07:10] <Seveas> SaLiFa, if you didn't install grub *anywhere*, you cannot boot ubuntu. The vista bootloader is only smart enough to start another bootloader, not a linux kernel
[07:10] <bohemian_> hello
[07:10] <bohemian_> i am installing the driver for my vga
[07:11] <bohemian_> but i get the ff error:  Error: cannot find header matching kernel version 2.6.27-11-generic
[07:11] <SaLiFa> i would just like one bootloder not 2 - so i didnt install grub - but... is there a way for me to install grub without having to completely reinstall ubuntu?
[07:11] <quibbler> !grub | SaLiFa
[07:11] <simplexio> SaLiFa: yes.
[07:11] <endial> Anyone in here play WoW on ubuntu by chance?
[07:11] <bohemian_> i use ubuntu 8.10 with the latest kernel upgrade installed
[07:11] <SaLiFa> okay so i need the live cd...
[07:12] <tarelerulz> I am working with dolphin the file manager and the one feature I liked about it was the tab feature  . It does not seem to have that anymore do any of you know how to get it back ?
[07:12] <kaushal> hi
[07:12] <bohemian_> what mus be the ptoblem with this error: Error: cannot find header matching kernel version 2.6.27-11-generic
[07:12] <kaushal> is there a way i can ping a particular request for half an hour
[07:12] <SaLiFa> i just downloaded the standard 8.10 installation cd - do i have to have the live cd to reinstall grub?
[07:12] <Seveas> bohemian_, the problem is that you're manually installing video drivers, which is only required in very rare cases
[07:12] <michael> I think you can install grub off the live cd without fully completing the install
[07:12] <michael> of ubuntu
[07:13] <quibbler> SaLiFa: yes
[07:13] <ArmedKing> What is the best replacement for VMware in buntu?
[07:13] <simplexio> SaLiFa: probably yes. you need a way to boot into linux
[07:13] <rww> ArmedKing: Virtualbox
[07:13] <NDS|Brandon> Micheal = MichealPW ?
[07:13] <SaLiFa> lool that sux - alright ill have to have my friend burn it - thx guys
[07:13] <ArmedKing> rww, thanks a lot for the quick response. I'll check it out right away
[07:14] <quibbler> !virtualbox
[07:14] <ZykoticK9> ArmedKing, be sure your getting VB 2.1
[07:14] <Seveas> ArmedKing, vmware :) (but yeah, virtualbox is decent too)
[07:14] <ArmedKing> Itś not for running Windows ;-) so i think Virtual box will do fine
[07:14] <bohemian_> Seveas: it's the only driver provided with the machine on linux option
[07:15] <ZykoticK9> ArmedKing, Windows (including 7) runs great in VB???
[07:15] <bohemian_> is this because the installer might be RPM package?
[07:15] <q0_0p> how do i get f7-f12 screens back
[07:15] <Seveas> bohemian_, ubuntu includes drivers for all video cards. Which card is it?
[07:15] <q0_0p> when pressing ctrl+alt f7
[07:15] <tarelerulz> armedking virtual box is great.  I would not recommend running yahoo messenger in it .  Voice will not work. It odn't fo me
[07:15] <LambdaGuy> Is there a trick to install Ubuntu on an Imac's USB external drive
[07:16] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: yeah it works quite well
[07:16] <ArmedKing> tarelerulz, Oke i will keep that in mind
[07:17] <bohemian_> Seveas: actually it's a Glaive POS, i need to install the agp driver properly so i can also install the touchscreen capability (w/c is also a problem as included driver are RPM packages only)
[07:19] <azlon> how can i make a file? i tried make and makefile
[07:19] <DVS01> touch
[07:19] <azlon> ah, thanks!
[07:19] <Rafase_282> Hello
[07:19] <Rafase_282> I'm having trouble installing some apps
[07:19] <grendal_prime> is there a touchpad control system like the macbook?
[07:19] <bohemian_> DVS01: you have an idea how to install touchkit on ubuntu?
[07:20] <Rafase_282> Failed to fetch http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/ucf/ucf_3.0011_all.deb  404 Not Found
[07:20] <Rafase_282> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:20] <DVS01> havent tried
[07:20] <grendal_prime> i forget what they call it
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, ArmedKing the only thing that VirtualBox is REALLY missing, is a way to start VMs on boot, right now there is no way to do it in the program and the only init.d scripts I have tried using have all had some sort of difficulty or another... hopefully in the next version.
[07:20] <Rafase_282> apt-get install tightvncserver
[07:20] <rww> Rafase_282: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:20] <endial_> anyone play wow on ubuntu by chance?
[07:20] <SaLiFa> hey guys using this website : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub : im trying to restore grub - but at step 4 - i keep getting error 15: file not found - after trying /boot and /grub - what other folders could it be in?
[07:20] <Rafase_282> i'm using debian lenny
[07:20] <Rafase_282> from my phone
[07:20] <rww> Rafase_282: ask in #debian then. This channel is only for Ubuntu tech support.
[07:21] <ArmedKing> ZykoticK9, Yeah to be honest that would be great because i am running 2 screens.
[07:21] <bazhang> Rafase_282, then go to #debian
[07:21] <grendal_prime> Rafase_282: what phone?
[07:22] <ericstewart> I'm trying to build and install glibc 2.18.4 on ubuntu server 8.10. During make I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/126586/
[07:22] <ZykoticK9> ArmedKing, oh you could start a VM easily enough on Login, it's on bootup that it's more challenging - if you wanted it to start when you log in you could simply add an appropriate shortcut into Preferences / Session
[07:22] <Rafase_282> HTC Dream
[07:22] <paranoid_ndroid> why doesn't GNOME support window tiling?
[07:23] <quibbler> SaLiFa: /boot/grub
[07:24] <ArmedKing> ZykoticK9, Awsome!
[07:24] <Jello> Can anyone give me some quick help on ubuntu hardy server, setting up vsftpd?  I can connect to the server and it performs the list command, but there are no directories listed. (sorry if this is stupid, I'm new)
[07:24] <grendal_prime> ZykoticK9:  I think you need to lookinto headless setup
[07:25] <ZykoticK9> grendal_prime, yes that is requirement #1 (i've got several headless working great), it's the #2 adding it to init.d that becomes more tricky
[07:26] <mejobloggs> I'm VNCing to ubuntu from Windows, and the vnc window is really small. How do I make it bigger? Is it dependent on the resolution of ubuntu desktop?
[07:27] <jigp> hello how to upgrade skype 2.0 to 3?
[07:27] <simplexio> mejobloggs: i think it depends desktop resolution, but attleast tighvnc for windows had option to resize and zoom
[07:29] <q0_0p> im connected through wifi right now; is there a way i can share my internet connection through my ethernet?
[07:29] <mejobloggs> hm ok, I tried following a tutorial of changing screen res, and it didnt work (not on vnc or the ubuntu screen)
[07:30] <ZykoticK9> jigp, i don't think skype 3 is available for linux yet...
[07:30] <user296> my usb mouse is not recognised when I plug it in during a session. However, if I reboot or logout & log back in it works fine. does anyone know how to get ubuntu to rescan hardware manually?
[07:31] <simplexio> user296: sessions as X session
[07:32] <user296> simplexio: sorry, I don't understand. Could you explain more?
[07:33] <simplexio> user296: when you are that GrafigalUserInterface also know as X windowin system
[07:34] <user296> simplexio: yes ... I have the graphical interface. Just no mouse support unless I restart the session
[07:34] <ary> ae
[07:36] <simplexio> user296: my best quess is that you can fix problem adding all relevant mouse setup data into xorg.conf, problem probably is that X scans hardware and configures it at start
[07:37] <azlon> i am setting up ZSNES and a WiiMote
[07:37] <hechu> !repostory
[07:37] <hechu> !repository
[07:37] <azlon> i have them working together now, but I would like to create a file that runs the command to connect my wiimote, then when it is found launch zsnes... is that somewhat easy to do?
[07:38] <reisi> any ideas on how to install somehow recent java 6 *headless* on ubuntu server 8.04?
[07:39] <user296> simplexio: thanks
[07:40] <ZykoticK9> azlon you could run something like "<command to run wiimote> && zsnes" this would wait until wiimote command ran successfully then run zsnes, just a suggestion...
[07:41] <azlon> ZykoticK9: thanks, ill give it a shot
[07:41] <quibbler> user296: read this is a forum: Ubuntu doesn't detect new USB drive automatically. I did a couple of 'lsusb' from terminal and normally your new USB mouse shows on the 2nd lsusb. If you see the mouse on lsusb output, you'll be able to use it.
[07:42] <tsrk> I have two machines.  When I try to SSH from one to the other, the login is incredibly slow (takes about 5 seconds for the password prompt to appear).  When I SSH to any other machine it works fine.  When I ssh to the server from any other machine it works fine.  This problem only occurs with this combination of client and server.  What on earth could be causing this?
[07:43] <Seveas> tsrk, reverse dns slowness/failure
[07:43] <azlon> ZykoticK9: that didnt quite work because the wiimote command is running the whole time i am using the wiimote
[07:44] <ZykoticK9> azlon, ummmm, that's a little more complicated -- not sure man, good luck
[07:44] <hechu> tsrk, refer to here may helpful: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050329185832952
[07:44] <tsrk> Seveas, that's what i was thinking but why would it not happen with other machines on the network then?
[07:44] <azlon> ZykoticK9: when the controller connects it returns "Ready"... im sure that is in the programs and no way to recognize when its ready
[07:44] <hechu> tsrk, it's related with reverse DNS.
[07:44] <azlon> its cool, thanks
[07:44] <Seveas> tsrk, they might not be caring about it or have the info cached
[07:45] <p1oooop> hi, I need some help with m4
[07:45] <tsrk> hechu, Seveas, also i forgot to note that this used to work fine (immediately connect)
[07:45] <p1oooop> anyone?
[07:45] <tsrk> and the configurations on all the machines should be identical (i've made no changes)
[07:46] <ZykoticK9> azlon, perhaps you could work a "sleep X" into it?  like "command to run wiimote> & sleep 10 && zsnes" just adjust the sleep amount to be however long it takes to get the Wiimote "Ready"
[07:46] <quibbler> p1oooop: more info?
[07:46] <azlon> ZykoticK9: thanks!
[07:46] <p1oooop> quibbler: well, I installed m4 so I can use flex, but when installing flex, it says m4 isn't installed
[07:47] <Seveas> tsrk, when you login on that machine and do 'host ip.from.connecting.box', does that give info quickly?
[07:47] <StyleSheep> halp! everytime i start gnome-appearance-settings my X crashes
[07:47] <Seveas> StyleSheep, it's a conspiracy to make everyones desktop look the same and be unchangable :)
[07:48] <StyleSheep> doesnt matter if i go to System->Settings->Appearance or rightclick the desktop->Change Wallpaper...
[07:48] <Seveas> StyleSheep, that'll be part 2 of the plan ;)
[07:48] <tsrk> Seveas, no, it's an internal ip
[07:48] <ilovewendydarlin> ???
[07:48] <StyleSheep> Seveas, *lol* i didnt want to change anything, it just started today with an old theme
[07:48] <Seveas> tsrk, then add it to /etc/hosts and see if that helps?
[07:49] <StyleSheep> Seveas,  and i wanted to change it back
[07:49] <p1oooop> quibbler: you there?
[07:49] <StyleSheep> didnt find anything useful on google...
[07:49] <Seveas> StyleSheep, as you might guess, I have no clue what's going on there. Maybe there's something useful in your Xorg.0.log?
[07:49] <tsrk> Seveas, ok, i'll try that, but why would it only effect this one combination?
[07:49] <quibbler> p1oooop: how are you installing
[07:50] <alan> I am having trouble running apps from Ubuntu
[07:50] <p1oooop> quibbler: I did...
[07:50] <p1oooop> quibbler: and I tested, passed all tests
[07:50] <Seveas> p1oooop, did you install manually or from packages?
[07:50] <p1oooop> packages
[07:50] <alan> this happened right after I copied some files from a remote PC which has basically the same setup into my home directory
[07:50] <p1oooop> I don't trust muself
[07:50] <p1oooop> *myself
[07:51] <alan> the problem is with running pretty much anything under gnome
[07:51] <Seveas> apt-get install flex should work then
[07:51] <oneeyedelf1> anyone know how to increase the bandwidht of ekiga? I have 20mbps upstream that is being wasted
[07:51] <p1oooop> K
[07:51]  * Seveas out --> work
[07:51] <p1oooop> I wil
[07:51] <alan> seems like I clobbered some X Windows or Gnome files in my home directory
[07:51] <StyleSheep> Seveas, AUDIT: Thu Mar  5 08:45:28 2009: 7636 X: client 4 rejected from local host ( uid=1000 gid=1000 pid=7658 )
[07:51] <jumbers> Does anybody know if there's a way to make the touchpad on a notebook multitouch like the new Macbooks?
[07:52] <alan> can anybody help with this?
[07:52] <p1oooop> nope, apt-get flex doesnt work
[07:52] <StyleSheep> Seveas, there are four of these rows on the end of the file
[07:52] <reisi> can anyone explain the openjdk6-jre package numbering? ubuntu version is 6b11; java -version reports 1.6.0_0-b11, what does that b11 stand for?
[07:53] <quibbler> p1oooop: what errors?
[07:53] <tsrk> Seveas, well, i gotta say, that worked wonders
[07:53] <tsrk> but why??? i don't get it :P
[07:53] <p1oooop> quibbler: it says m4 isn't installed
[07:54] <simplexio> alan: easiest way to "fix" it it is remove .gnome* dirs and restart X session. but beware that "resets" all gnome settings etc...
[07:54] <quibbler> p1oooop: apt-get install m4
[07:55] <marinemuseet> anyone knows if there is a program for Ubuntu that is similar to Adobe Bridge?
[07:55] <p1oooop> quibbler: its working, thanks
[07:55] <ninja1234> How do i know if i have to restart after doing sudo aptitude safe-upgrade?
[07:55] <quibbler> p1oooop: fine
[07:55] <p1oooop> quibbler: do you know how to get flex?
[07:56] <quibbler> p1oooop: from synaptic
[07:56] <simplexio> marinemuseet: what adobe brifge does
[07:56] <mwjones18> what the fuck is this?
[07:56] <unop> !language | mwjones18
[07:56] <unop> p1oooop, you shouldn't need to restart unless something asks you to.
[07:57] <mwjones18> well explain what the eff is going on then
[07:57] <p1oooop> unop: thanks... I guess...
[07:57] <StyleSheep> Seveas, do you have another idea where i could find any info?
[07:57] <alan> again, today I rsync'ed from a remote PC into my local PC (both running Ubuntu 8.10) and after that I couldn't launch any apps under Gnome
[07:57] <marinemuseet> simplexio: a picture viewer program, where you can sort your pictures after quality. A bit similar to Picasa, but I need something which is a bit more advanced
[07:58] <marinemuseet> a picture viewer program, where you can sort your pictures after quality. A bit similar to Picasa, but I need something which is a bit more advanced
[07:58] <p1oooop> anyone know how much RAM ubuntu x32 supports?
[07:58] <quibbler> ninja1234: you shouldn't need to restart unless something asks you to.
[07:58] <ninja1234> Adobe Bridge: photo management for professionals
[07:58] <mwjones18> Balls?  I get network access but no internet
[08:07] <mejobloggs> how can i stop ubuntu-desktop from autostarting? I want it to just start in console thing
[08:07] <luisferrer> server <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:07] <zhurai-tsuki> <luisferrer> server <IP_ADDRESS>  <-- /server, not "server"
[08:08] <jtaji> mejobloggs: sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[08:08] <alan> I guess I'll try to go find help elsewhere -- any suggestions?  I am still new to Ubuntu (but experienced with Linux)
[08:08] <alan> quit
[08:08] <ZykoticK9> mejobloggs, or perhaps "rc-update del xdm default" not sure about jtaji's command
[08:09] <mejobloggs> hmm ok. Someone suggested BUM but I can only seem to stop and start things from that
[08:09] <jtaji> ZykoticK9: there is no rc-update command, and gnome uses gdm
[08:09] <luisferrer> that is the way I use it but I have tried on this IRC because I use it to download
[08:09] <luisferrer> with MIRC
[08:10] <JoshuaRL> i need some help with kubuntu intrepid kde4.1.  im trying to decouple the dashboard from the desktop.  i cant figure out the first step.  where is the toolbox and how do i do that?  Im following this:  http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/09/howto-decoupling-dashboard-from-desktop.html
[08:10] <mejobloggs> jtaji: can you explain what the command doese? What's update-rc.d?
[08:10] <ZykoticK9> jtaji, my bad!  gentoo peaks through every once in a while, sorry mejobloggs
[08:10] <mejobloggs> all good :)
[08:11] <jtaji> mejobloggs: it removes the links in /etc/rc*.d/ to /etc/init.d/gdm to prevent it from auto starting
[08:11] <jtaji> mejobloggs: afterwards you can start it from console with /etc/init.d/gdm start, or use update-rc.d to re-add the symlinks
[08:13] <mejobloggs> mejobloggs@fatso:~$ sudo update-rc.d gdm remove -f
[08:13] <mejobloggs> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[08:13] <bullgard4> I have unstalled wget. Does curl provide a functionality beyound that of wget?
[08:13] <StyleSheep> anyone have an idea why my X crashes whenever i start gnome-appearance-settings?
[08:13] <jtaji> mejobloggs: oh yeah, use -f
[08:13] <mejobloggs> i tried
[08:13] <mejobloggs> put it in wrong place?
[08:13] <JoshuaRL> StyleSheep: have you tried it from the terminal?  if so, what was the error?
[08:14] <geirha> mejobloggs: yeah, put it between update-rc.d and gdm
[08:14] <jtaji> mejobloggs: yeah, it must come right after update-rc.d
[08:14] <mejobloggs> wicked, thanks guys
[08:14] <q0_0p> do i need a crossover cable to do internet sharing
[08:14] <q0_0p> im getting internet through wifi?
[08:14] <unop> q0_0p, yes if you connect one PC directly to another.
[08:15] <rotkeppchen> most ethernet adapters determine if the cable is crossover automatically ... so in most cases it won't matter
[08:15] <q0_0p> darn
[08:15] <geirha> q0_0p: either that or two regular cables and a hub/switch
[08:16] <q0_0p> ok
[08:16] <q0_0p> is this guide ok?
[08:16] <q0_0p> file:///home/pan/Documents/WEB/ubuntu-internet-sharing.html
[08:16] <q0_0p> sorry
[08:16] <q0_0p> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6060607#post6060607
[08:16] <unop> !ics
[08:17] <JoshuaRL> any ideas on kde dashboard decoupling?
[08:18] <Flynsarmy> I can set my ip to static wth wireless but not with ethernet. any ideas why? I get network access but no internet
[08:19] <davidcramer> bash: /tmp/pear/cache/imagick-2.2.2/build/shtool: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: P -- whats this mean?
[08:19] <mejobloggs> is there a gui where i can manage my hdd's? I have a hdd not showing in 'Computer'
[08:19] <Flynsarmy> mejobloggs, gparted
[08:20] <davidcramer> grr happens everywhere, can't install any of the imagick packages through pecl -- I installed pecl with aptitude.. any ideas?
[08:20] <unop> davidcramer, what does this give you?  cat -et /tmp/pear/cache/imagick-2.2.2/build/shtool | head -n 1
[08:20] <JoshuaRL> mejobloggs: also, NTFS config tool can help
[08:20] <davidcramer> its #!/bin/sh$
[08:20] <unop> davidcramer,  readlink -f /bin/sh
[08:21] <davidcramer> : /bin/dash
[08:22] <unop> davidcramer, right, so how where you trying to start the script? bash is complaining there.
[08:22] <davidcramer> if I run sh <that file> I get some "Invalid command line" which seems to be thrown by that script purposely
[08:22] <davidcramer> its running it with pecl install imagick
[08:22] <davidcramer> or just executing the script with ./
[08:23] <davidcramer> the only time it appears to work right is when i do sh <script>
[08:23] <davidcramer> but which sh shows /bin/sh
[08:23]  * davidcramer is completely lost
[08:23] <Myrtti> davidcramer: if your script doesn't have hashbang in the beginning, you need to define it before running it
[08:23] <Myrtti> davidcramer: which you are doing with running it with sh
[08:23] <davidcramer> http://www.pastethat.com/NzpEg
[08:24] <davidcramer> its not my script, and it does have that (see above)
[08:24] <NOTEBOOK> ㅎㅇㄹ
[08:24] <q0_0p> whats the difference between dhcp3-server and dhcp package?
[08:24] <SkyNetMaster> hi, can I pass a variable to alias?
[08:25] <unop> davidcramer, Error: invalid command line  sounds like you need to pass some arguments to the script
[08:25] <davidcramer> ya that ones obvious
[08:25] <davidcramer> but the reason i show that is because the other way of executing it has a diff result (the actual error)
[08:26] <unop> davidcramer,  ls -ld /tmp/pear/cache/imagick-2.2.2/build/shtool
[08:26] <davidcramer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-03-05 03:23 /tmp/pear/cache/imagick-2.2.2/bui
[08:27] <unop> SkyNetMaster, you can't - you'll have to use a function instead.
[08:27] <mandark> hello all
[08:27] <unop> davidcramer,  strange.   ls -ld /bin/dash
[08:28] <davidcramer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-09-28 18:18 /bin/dash
[08:28] <bullgard4> I have installed wget. Does curl provide a functionality beyound that of wget?
[08:28] <davidcramer> im not sure if the latest aptitude upgrade did it or what (I just ran that before attempting to update this)
[08:28] <SkyNetMaster> unop, thanks! so I basically have write bash functions?
[08:28] <davidcramer> bullgard4, they are different and provide different functionality
[08:29] <davidcramer> curl has a lot of advanced stuff, wget is pretty much designed specifically for retrieving files
[08:29] <MrSunshine_> why do i not see the nick list in xchat in ubuntu ? :/
[08:29] <darph_nuts> man this wireless is so noisy
[08:29] <unop> SkyNetMaster, right.  function foo() { echo "you passed $@"; }  foo one two three;
[08:30] <darph_nuts> conky shows 180kB/s... transmission reports around 65kB/s
[08:30] <davidcramer> im gonna reboot my server -- that always works to fix bugs on other OS ;)
[08:30] <unop> davidcramer, I don't see why there is a problem - maybe it's something you should ask in #bash
[08:30] <SkyNetMaster> unop, thank you
[08:30] <bullgard4> davidcramer: Synaptic: "curl is a client to get files from servers using any of the supported protocols HTTP, HTTPS, or FTP."
[08:31] <davidcramer> bullgard4, it can also POST to forms and do a lot more complex stuff
[08:31] <davidcramer> if you just wanna dl files just use wget
[08:31] <quibbler> bullgard4: look here: http://curl.haxx.se/docs/manual.html
[08:31] <davidcramer> ack i just realized how much crap i had running right after i hit enter on shutdown -r :)
[08:32] <mejobloggs> ok i just formated my hdd's as ext3, but they don't show up in 'Computer', how do i get them there?
[08:32] <xun911> hello, how can I turn of Compiz's window animation,shadow, etc... for certain programs, such as Photoshop CS2 running under wine?
[08:32] <ziroday> MrSunshine_: tried press ctrl+f7?
[08:32] <davidcramer> and that didnt solve it, too bad
[08:32] <ziroday> xun911: you would have to kill compiz, you can't turn it off for just one app
[08:34] <simplexio> mejobloggs: only non native hds appear there, ytou should define mount point to fstab for "new" partiotion and define default mount point
, i see. what about just "shadow" alone? I have used "!(title=mi_conky)" to disable my conky, can I just add to that?
[08:34] <bullgard4> quibbler: Thank you very much.
[08:34] <quibbler> bullgard4: you are welcome
[08:34] <bullgard4> davidcramer: ok.
[08:35] <ziroday> xun911: yes I guess, but I strongly doubt you will get any performance improvements. If you want to quickly turn compiz off and on you can use fusion-icon or you can write a wrapper so when you launch photoshop it kills compiz and when you close it restarts compiz
[08:36]  * StyleSheep got his theme back
[08:36] <dipeshmehta> hello, is anybody there to help me for LTS on ubuntu 8.04?
[08:36] <J4zen> Hi there, does anyone have Hi there
[08:36] <J4zen> Does anyone know how to use sed to replace a "case"  string
[08:36] <J4zen> sed "/#NEW_MOD_MARKER/s//\case('${moduleName}'):\\n\\t\\t\\t\\t\\t\\t\\$link = array('mod=${moduleName}','${menuName}');\\n\\t\\t\\t\\t\\tbreak\\n\\t\\t\\t\\t\\t#NEW_MOD_MARKER/g" $wwwDir/sysdata/classes/class.MainMenu.php > tmp
[08:36] <FloodBot2> J4zen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <J4zen> case isn't rendered in that expression
[08:36] <xun911> ziroday, ok i think i'll just elave it alone. just a thought because the windows are behaving a bit weird. thanks!
[08:37] <ziroday> xun911: no problem :)
[08:37] <eldenz> how do i install the nvidia driver that gives me the `nvidia' module?
[08:37] <ziroday> eldenz: using hardware manager?
[08:38] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: hardware drivers. just activate the suggested one
[08:38] <hechu> eldenz, use restricted driver.
[08:38] <jumbers> Does anybody know if there's a way to make the touchpad on a notebook multitouch like the new Macbooks?
[08:38] <eldenz> is there a way to do on console? i'm running fluxbox...
[08:38] <unop> J4zen, #sed
[08:39] <ziroday> eldenz: what version of ubuntu and what nvidia graphics card?
[08:39] <eldenz> 8.10, 9500gt
[08:39] <xun911> lately my laptop would just lose the ability to play sound every night when I leave it on. Does anyone how to restart it without rebooting?
[08:39] <ziroday> eldenz: gimme a sec
[08:39] <J4zen> thanks unop
[08:39] <ideka> whenever i compile the kernel using sudo make-kpkg --initr --append-to-version=-cust kernel_image kernel_headers, it recompiles the ENTIRE kernel. is there a way to make it so that it doesn't have to recompile all the object files?
[08:40] <ziroday> xun911: try restarting pulseaudio. I would find the pid with ps aux | grep pulseaudio and then do kill -9 <pid of pulseaudio> and then finally pulseaudio -D
[08:40] <xun911> or better, keep the sound working...
[08:40] <hechu> eldenz, here is some information maybe helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:40] <stradade> hi all
[08:40] <hechu> hi
[08:40] <core4> cintia
[08:40] <ziroday> eldenz: you want the nvidia-glx-177 package
[08:40] <quibbler> xun911: you could try: sudo killall pulseaudio; sleep 5; sudo alsa force-reload
[08:40] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: i think nvidia-glx-180 should be good.  but I haven't tried installing this way
[08:41] <xun911> ziroday & quibbler, cool. I'll try that tomorrow morning. I did try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-util restart" and that was useless...
[08:41] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: -180 doesn't exist in intrepid.
[08:42] <JoshuaRL> ziroday: it shows in apt-cache on mine
[08:42] <Certh> hi!
[08:42] <eldenz> ziroday, JoshuaRL, hechu, thanks :)
[08:42] <eldenz> ziroday, it does for me
[08:42] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: woops sorry, its in intrepid-updates :)
[08:42] <JoshuaRL> :p no prob ziroday
[08:42] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: if it doesnt get it, you'll want nvidia-settings too
[08:43] <eldenz> JoshuaRL, already got that :) was fiddling around yesterday with xinerama/twinview... thinking i already have the nvidia-glx installed but it looks like i haven't
[08:43] <xun911> ziroday, quibbler, is there any possible cause & fixes for this though? i would rather not restart the sound everyday if possible
[08:44] <styol> i've got a macbook air with a 10gig partition along with a swap partition with Ubuntu installed... after i installed it, it wanted to reboot, and now there appears to be no way to actually login to Ubuntu vs OSX... any ideas? holding down Option during boot only shows the main osx parition
[08:44] <ziroday> xun911: next time it happens try start totem from the console and play an audio file. Save any error messages that are printed out and we can help you more then :)
[08:44] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: cool.  it also works from CLI.  just look through man nvidia-settings if you want to look at it
[08:45] <xun911> ziroday, will do. thanks!
[08:45] <ziroday> xun911: it could be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/191027
[08:45] <tac_> hi all, wanna ask if there is a good software to draw schemes
[08:46] <tac_> thanks
[08:46] <ziroday> tac_: schemes?
[08:46] <eldenz> how do i restart the X server.. seems like exiting the WM, then login again does not do that...
[08:46] <ziroday> eldenz: from the terminal its sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[08:47] <tac_> ziroday: :) like this http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Architecture?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=gnome-keyring-architecture.png
[08:47] <xun911> ziroday, i don't know about totem but I when I tried to use last.fm, the error was something like "sound card is not detected" or something similar...
[08:47] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:47] <strange> anyone here have expierence with lirc?
[08:47] <ziroday> xun911: try run it from totem
[08:47] <ziroday> tac_: possibly in inkscape?
[08:47] <xun911> ziroday, OK
[08:47] <JoshuaRL> ziroday: i keep steppin on ya  :)
[08:48] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: heh, no worries. Better two people :)
[08:49] <tac_> ziroday: Got what you mean :) nice
[08:49] <eldenz> JoshuaRL, thanks, it doesn't seem to load the updated xorg.conf ... it still loads the xorg.conf.failsafe (i think)
[08:49] <eldenz> well, i'm gonna reboot
[08:49] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: wait
[08:50] <JoshuaRL> with the new xorg (hardy and after) xorg.conf is seriously depreciated.  7.3 and higher doesnt pay a whole lot of attention to it, autoconfigs instead
[08:50] <JoshuaRL> so you may not see any changes, and it may not use a different xorg even
[08:50] <eldenz> oooh... i was wondering why it's so empty :x
[08:51] <eldenz> will try to configure twinview through nvidia-settings then, as i have the module now (hopefully) :)
[08:51] <styol> anybody have experience with dual booting osx with ubuntu? for some reason grub didnt get installed or something cause im not able to boot to the ubuntu partition..
[08:51] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: hope it works
[08:52] <shabda> I have a ubuntu server where I have root access, shell only, I created a ndew user as root. How do I give it superuser priviledges?
[08:52] <shabda> new user I created using the adduser command
[08:53] <rww> shabda: sudo usermod -aG admin newUsernameGoesHere
[08:53] <rww> shabda: (i.e., add the user to the admin group)
[08:53] <shabda> rww: thanks :)
[08:54] <Xanax09> any one knows how to propper configure a vnc server ?
[08:54] <rww> !vnc | Xanax09: Have you seen this page? It has pretty good instructions
[08:54] <JoshuaRL> shabda: add to the /etc/sudoers file
[08:54] <shabda> rww: umm, I get a unknown group admin
[08:55] <JoshuaRL> styol: need help with that still?
[08:55] <styol> joshuaRL, yes indeedie
[08:56] <rww> shabda: heh, that's odd. You could add the user to the /etc/sudoers file, then. Use the "visudo" command (don't edit the sudoers file directly). There should be an entry in there already for root, just copy that (replacing "root" at the start of the line with the user's)
[08:56] <Certh1> hi
[08:56] <JoshuaRL> go to #ubuntuforums-beginners and ask a dude named LeAstrale.  he loves OSX and wants to help you :)
[08:56] <JoshuaRL> im in there too, and im a beginner team member
[08:56] <JoshuaRL> styol: ^^ that was for you
[08:57] <styol> JoshuaRL, 10 gig partition towards the beginning of the hard drive, 512 swap partition, ubuntu installed just fine, said lets reboot... reboot, boots into osx, like nothing ever happened... also i held down the option key during boot which gives you the options (normally) to boot from other partitions, drives, or network drives etc... and it wasnt there
[08:57] <shabda> rww: heh, I already edited the /etc/sudoers, but looks like it did the trick :)
[08:57] <styol> awesome
[08:57] <styol> thanks JoshuaRL
[08:57] <eldenz> anyone got a link to a howto dual monitor on 8.10?!
[08:57] <JoshuaRL> styol: im not much for OSX, but he'll help
[08:57] <styol> i appreciate the connection
[08:57] <eldenz> i'm getting crazy with the xorg.conf mess... all howtos using xorg.conf but the system ignores shit
[08:57] <JoshuaRL> styol: np
[08:57] <mejobloggs> I've put this in my fstab, but the hdd's aren't showing in 'Computer' even after a restart. I also tried sudo mount -a
[08:57] <mejobloggs> /dev/sda1	/mnt/filestore1	ext3	defaults	0	0
[08:57] <mejobloggs> /dev/sdc1	/mnt/backupstore1	ext3	defaults	0	0
[08:57] <nicolas_> ok
[08:57] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: have you tried using xinerama?
[08:58] <rww> !dual monitors | eldenz
[08:58] <rww> !ohmy | eldenz
[08:58] <simion314> how can i make a iso to be visible as a cd in wine? a setup program requiers cd2 and i mount it but it is not seen, i think it searches for /dev/cdrom
[08:58] <JoshuaRL> simion314: gmount-iso iirc
[08:59] <JoshuaRL> simion314: sorry, gmountiso
[08:59] <eldenz> ;)
[09:00] <simion314> JoshuaRL, i am using kde
[09:00] <JoshuaRL> simion314: so am i
[09:00] <simion314> it mustg be a command that makes same thing
[09:00] <eldenz> JoshuaRL, i'm kinda lost as i said. i'm not supposed to edit xorg.conf files but all tools/howtos seem to use it so bleh
[09:00] <eldenz> JoshuaRL, the 'xinerama' package is installed, though
[09:00] <rww> eldenz: Why are you not supposed to edit xorg?
[09:01] <JoshuaRL> eldenz: yeah, the syntax changed and xorg sometimes doesnt even listen right anyway.  id suggest you didnt
[09:01] <eldenz> 0950.18 <JoshuaRL> with the new xorg (hardy and after) xorg.conf is seriously depreciated.  7.3 and higher doesnt pay a whole lot of attention to it, autoconfigs instead
[09:01] <bullgard4> Um 10.10 Uhr gibt es im Deutschlandfunk eine Sendung zum Thema "Mobiles Internet" direkt von der c-bit.
[09:01] <eldenz> bullgard4, ok
[09:01] <ziroday> !de | bullgard4
[09:01] <rww> eldenz, JoshuaRL: That's not really true. xorg.conf isn't deprecated, and settings put into it override xorg's autodetection.
[09:02] <JoshuaRL> rww: the syntax is changed, so all the old howtos are hit and miss now.  and even then, 7.3+ pays more attention to its own autodetection
[09:03] <eldenz> JoshuaRL, well i have an xorg.conf base that i use on gentoo... so i guess gentoo comes probably with a newer xorg version i guess
[09:04] <rww> JoshuaRL: Heh. I added a bunch of stuff to my Device section the other day in Xorg 7.4. Worked fine for me. But yeah, the syntax of some stuff has changed over the years.
[09:04] <Slayer> How can i find out whether drivers for my devices are properly insralled?
[09:05] <Certh1> Hi!
[09:06] <JoshuaRL> hey Certh1
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:06] <Certh1> Is there anybody here?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Certh1: noone at all
[09:06] <JoshuaRL> ActionParsnip: you have an awesome name
[09:06] <Certh1> I've created a new repository
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaRL: its a harry hill joke
[09:06] <Certh1> You can test it right now !
[09:06] <JoshuaRL> oh, didnt get it. sorry. just a cool name to me.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> JoshuaRL: np man, thanks :D
[09:07] <JoshuaRL> Certh1: whats in it, why should i use it, where is it?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> Certh1: whats on it and where is it located?
[09:07] <Certh1> deb http://deboteka.hotbox.ru ubuntu/
[09:07] <Certh1> this is blog: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/deboteka/
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> i'll guess russia
[09:07] <rww> !ot | Certh1
[09:08] <JoshuaRL> Certh1: why should i use it and whats on it?
 see the blog
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Certh1: i wouldnt put webmin on there
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | Certh1
[09:09] <Vigo> Is webmin supported in Deb5?
[09:09] <JoshuaRL> Certh1: sorry, i dont speak russian
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Vigo: couldnt tell you but it doesnt tie in with debian/ubuntu
[09:10] <Certh1> ebox does not support pptp vpn
[09:10] <hector_2009> hello
 you can write in english
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> !hi | hector_2009
[09:11] <hector_2009> this stuff is nuts
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> how so?
[09:11] <Vigo> It is a bit of a learning curve, but at least you are free to learn it.
[09:11] <hector_2009> my friend just gave me my first copy of unbuntu
[09:12] <chazco> Hi.. im trying to downgrade to 7.10, can anyone suggest a reliable download server?
[09:12] <JoshuaRL> hector_2009: how you like it?
[09:12] <hector_2009> I have windows
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | chazco
[09:12] <hector_2009> Ill never go back
[09:12] <JoshuaRL> hector_2009: to linux, or windows?
[09:12] <hector_2009> I hate windows
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> hector_2009: back to windows or back to ubuntu?
[09:12] <Vigo> chazco: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[09:12] <chazco> ActionParsnip - Install it from scratch i mean... 8.04 and up dont support my wifi properly :(
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> i see
[09:12] <JoshuaRL> heh, that answers that
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> chazco: then download the iso and reinstall
[09:13] <Vigo> chazco: get a good one and check the MD5 , no matter what.
[09:14] <hector_2009> How do I turn off the joined message on this thing
[09:14]  * ActionParsnip wishes people would md5 check stuff
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> hector_2009: what client?
[09:15] <chazco> Vigo / ActionParsnip - I do check the MD5... and it often doesnt match - thats why i'm after a reliable download location...
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> chazco: the source isnt the thing thats not reliable
[09:15] <Vigo> chazco: The link I gave is the official Canonical site.
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> chazco: the data got mangled in transmission
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> chazco: its not that the file hosted is incorrect
[09:16] <Vigo> That can happen also
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> chazco: thats why MD5ing is so hugely critical
[09:17] <chazco> Vigo / ActionParsnip - Yep, agreed on all points. Just helps to eliminate the server from the possible problem areas
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> but unfortunately most morons just burn the iso without checking then moan they wasted a cd when the image they have is bad
[09:17] <JoshuaRL> ActionParsnip: HEY! ive done that myself :/
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> chazco: use the official sources or the official torrent
[09:17] <JoshuaRL> chazco: use the torrent if you feel comfortable.  it eases server load
[09:17] <mejobloggs> I've put this in my fstab, but the hdd's aren't showing in 'Computer' even after a restart. I also tried sudo mount -a. What am i doing wrong?
[09:18] <mejobloggs> /dev/sda1 /mnt/filestore1 ext3 defaults 0 0
[09:18] <mejobloggs> /dev/sdc1 /mnt/backupstore1 ext3 defaults 0 0
[09:18] <rww> mejobloggs: partitions in fstab aren't mounted automatically by default. you need to add "auto" to the options column for each partition for that (options column is the one after "ext3")
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> mejobloggs: do the folders you specified in fstab exist in /mnt?
[09:19] <knoppix> list
[09:19] <mejobloggs> yep folders exist
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> mejobloggs: re what rww said: change  defaults   to     auto,defaults
[09:20] <rww> or "defaults,auto".  Close it by pressing [Esc], then :, then q, then !, then [Enter].
[09:21] <mejobloggs> then sudo mount -a ?
[09:21] <joe__> oh ok, so how do i edit within visudo?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> joe__: is this some vi variant?
[09:22] <rww> joe__: then do "export EDITOR=nano" in the command-line, and try visudo again. It should open in a more sane editor.
[09:22] <joe__> nah man, esc wont close visudo
[09:22] <joe__> ah ok
[09:22] <jtaji> joe__: it's vi, but you could change it to using nano by selecting nano with: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[09:22] <osubuck> Hi, im unable to change my westinghouse lcd monitor to any other resolution but 640x480, the default and optimal is 1440x900
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> rww: nano is much nicer imho too
[09:22] <osubuck> doesn't matter which OS i choose, it still only defaults to that small resolution
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: have you installed vdeo drivers?
[09:22] <osubuck> yes
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: have you configured them?
[09:23] <osubuck> and they were installed successfully
[09:23] <rww> ActionParsnip: visudo lets you edit /etc/sudoers, and does checking before saving changes. It uses vi by default, or whatever the EDITOR variable (or is it some alternatives setting...) specifies.
[09:23] <osubuck> ActionParsnip: my monitor isn't being detected anymore
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> rww: oic
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: what video card do you use?
[09:23] <osubuck> it used to be detected.... is that a hardware problem?
[09:23] <joe__> nah man that wont work either
[09:23] <joe__> its driving me nuts
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> rww: thanks :)
[09:23] <osubuck> nvidia 173
[09:24] <joe__> i done: "export EDITOR=nano visudo" and nothing happend
[09:24] <osubuck> but like i said, it now defaults to that resolution no matter which distro it is
[09:24] <joe__> so i opend up visudo again, and i cant do anything lol
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: have you tried running sudo nvidia-xconfig   and restarting x
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: then run  gksudo nvidia-settings
[09:24] <osubuck> yup
[09:24] <mejobloggs> I did '/dev/sda1	/mnt/filestore1	ext3	auto,defaults	0	0' then 'sudo mount -a' and it didnt work
[09:24] <osubuck> doesn't detect my resolution
[09:24] <mejobloggs> also tried defaults,auto
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: can you pick something like 1024x768?
[09:24] <osubuck> no
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: what is the output of lspci | grep -i vga
[09:25] <osubuck> i need to sign into that computer
[09:25] <osubuck> so i'll brb on there, with the huge window open lol
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> you can run it via ssh if you want ;)
[09:26] <rww> joe__: sorry about that, I misremembered. Close out of visudo, do "sudo update-alternatives --config editor" and pick an editor you can use at the prompt (try nano).  Press [Esc], press :, press q, press !, press [Enter]
[09:28] <joe__> i did ffs
[09:29] <joe__> and it doesnt do anything
[09:29] <joe__> i press esc, then press :, then press w, or q, and nothing..
[09:29] <osubuck> ActionParsnip: Codename:	felicia
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> huh
[09:29] <joe__> stupid program is stupid tbh
[09:29] <osubuck> thats what that command says
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> !felicia
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: interesting, let me websearch
[09:29] <osubuck> this is linux mint
[09:30] <osubuck> not ubuntu
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> !mintsupport
[09:30] <osubuck> same thing happens on ubuntu
[09:30] <joe__> ok, :w says "wrote x amount of lines", yeah ok, but how do i actually edit it? omfg lol
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: in ubuntu i'd try the nvidia-glx-96 driver
[09:30] <OngaVezirKe> Hozsanna brotha'z
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> joe__: that output is telling you it wrote teh file to the disk
[09:31] <osubuck> well it used to work all the time with no problem, so i think its a hardware issue of some kind, could it be the cable?
[09:31] <joe__> one of these programs designed for 11 year olds so they can appear l33t in front of there mates or something
[09:31] <joe__> yeah but i cant actually edit it
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> osubuck: if you get any sort of display, the cable is fine
[09:31] <joe__> sure great it writes it ot the disk fine, but i want to at least be able to edit it
[09:31] <OngaVezirKe> I am hungarian, not tourist here
[09:31] <osubuck> perhaps a bios problem then? because no matter which distro i choose, i get the same problem now
[09:31] <jtaji> joe__: I gave you an update-alternatives command for changing that to an easier editor
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> joe__: what if you simply close the terminal
[09:32] <|Tommy|> ciaoo
[09:32] <rww> joe__: Please stop insulting software packages. They're not sentient enough to fight back, and you're just wasting your time.
[09:32] <|Tommy|> !list
[09:32] <OngaVezirKe> basszátok meg micsoda csapat
[09:32] <rww> !hu | OngaVezirKe
[09:32] <joe__> ok, so whats :e then? is that "let me edit" or what?
[09:32] <joe__> which one is edit lol
[09:32] <quibbler> joe__: a good begin is: man visudo
[09:33] <jtaji> joe__: learning vi is not for the impatient
[09:33] <joe__> so is it that hard just to bloody edit and save something? why?? lol
[09:34] <joe__> man visudo, garbage mate, i want to something simple here, not learn computer forensics
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> joe__: try websearching instead of wasting time ranting (ranting doesnt fix any issue)
[09:35] <eldenz> how do i circumvent that the x server is automatically started for the login screen? i just want a terminal upon boot
[09:35] <joe__> the only thing thats working is :wq
[09:35] <joe__> what a load of shit lol
[09:35] <jtaji> eldenz: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> oooh nice
[09:36] <quibbler> joe__: then you should not use visudo...you do it wrong and you can cause yourself all kinds of grief.
[09:36] <eldenz> jtaji, i don't get a console in the first place... seems my xorg.conf is fubar and both screens turn off as soon as xorg starts
[09:37] <eldenz> ubuntu is awesome... i feel like i'm using windows where the GUi stuff hinders all my problem debugging :)
[09:37] <Myrtti> eldenz: you could reboot to single user mode and disable the gdm there
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> eldenz: glad you like it
[09:37] <jussi01> eldenz: tried swithching to a tty? ctrl+alt+f3
[09:38] <eldenz> jussi01, <3
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> couldnt s/he add a menu.list option to only boot to command line mode
[09:38]  * ActionParsnip used to have one of those
[09:40] <B|ackPanther> I just download a file using the msdn client and the iso fiel has been downloaded to C:\temp but there is no such folder in my computer cause am running just ubuntu.How can i locate where the file is  ?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: you need to mount your windows partition
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: sudo fdisk -l will show you the partition names and file system
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g
[09:42] <jtaji> using wine B|ackPanther ?
[09:43] <B|ackPanther> jtaji,i want to install vista cause there are some programs from uni i cannot run in ubuntu.So the MSDN thing only saves the files in C: directory.
[09:44] <B|ackPanther> Am not using wine
[09:45] <toddoon> hi, in which files can i set booting process?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: linux doesnt have a C:  it has devices and mount points, if you downloaded a file in windows you need to mount your windows partition. If you used the msdn client via wine then the file will be in ~/.wine/drive_c/temp
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> !bum | toddoon
[09:46] <osubuck> ok im in ubuntu now ActionParsnip its still the same
[09:47] <osubuck> its detecting it as 4:3 rather than 16.9
[09:48] <osubuck> is there a command to prope for your monitor?
[09:48] <osubuck> probe
[09:49] <joerack> hey guys what linux program converts swf to gif?
[09:51] <broadcast> hi
[09:51] <william-1234> Hi
[09:52] <william-1234> I'm looking to have QuickSynergy auto-run at startup and connect to my local mac server
[09:52] <william-1234> At the moment it's running fine
[09:52] <william-1234> I have had a look at the synergy documentation
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> joerack: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=667010
[09:52] <quibbler> joerack: try swftools in synaptic also look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=667010
[09:52] <joerack> ty
[09:54] <william-1234> Any ideas?
[09:54] <sebsebseb> broadcast: hi
[09:54] <sebsebseb> got a question?
[09:54] <sebsebseb> !ask
[09:55] <william-1234> erm
[09:55] <william-1234> ?
[09:55] <william-1234> I did ask a question...
[09:56] <noo> ciao :)
[09:57] <rhythmsoup> Hi folks, i have two PCs, both running 8.04, one has kubuntu, one has ubuntu, in the KDE one, knetwork manager manages to connect to a friends wireless network just fine, in the Gnome based one network manager just wont connect. how can i find out the type of encryption used in knetwork manager for this wireless network?
[09:58] <quibbler> william-1234: system-preferences-sessions  add to startup
[09:58] <william-1234> Thanks, quibbler. What do I put for "command line"?
[09:59] <quibbler> william-1234: what ever the executable is for QuickSynergy
[09:59] <zash> quicksynergy
[09:59] <zash> in /usr/bin
[10:01] <william-1234> Great thanks
[10:01] <william-1234> I'll give that a shot
[10:01] <william-1234> Thing is, last time I opened it it has cleared the host I wanted to connect to
[10:01] <william-1234> server/hostname I{
[10:01] <william-1234> IP*
[10:01] <sleepy_cat> Any community where i can discuss about Encryption Decryption
[10:02] <sleepy_cat> AES standards etc
[10:02] <simplexio> sleepy_cat: why
[10:02] <sleepy_cat> i want to know about different algos
[10:03] <sleepy_cat> which i can use to safeguard my data
[10:03] <sleepy_cat> so want to discuss
[10:03] <sleepy_cat> is there a community
[10:04] <william-1234> Any ideas?
[10:05] <quibbler> sleepy_cat: maybe here?: http://forums.asp.net/t/1385690.aspx
[10:05] <abs> Hi
[10:05] <subchee> hello
[10:05] <styol> what is the channel for ubuntu beginners?
[10:05] <abs> How do i downgrade to the stable wine version, I am running the development release
[10:06] <Myrtti> styol: this is it
[10:06] <ikonia> abs: you dont
[10:06] <darXbuntu> hi
[10:06] <ikonia> abs: you need to re-install
[10:06] <darXbuntu> anyone here have prob with jaunty n nvidia graphic?
[10:06] <abs> My problem is IES4Linux isnt installing properly on the developmental release
[10:06] <ikonia> darXbuntu: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> abs: uninstall wine completely, remove the development versions repo then install the stable
[10:07] <darXbuntu> ok..thanx
[10:07] <ikonia> abs: contact the IE for linux developers as it's a.) a development release of ubuntu b.) a package that's not packaged by ubuntu
[10:07] <sleepy_cat> thanks quibbler
[10:07] <quibbler> sleepy_cat: you are welcome
[10:07] <sleepy_cat> it was quite informative.. but not exactly what i was looking for :)
[10:07] <rhythmsoup> Hi can anyone help with a question on the differences in knetwork manager and gnome network manager?
[10:08] <vanksi> how do i force verbose mode on every boot using grub? just by changing both of the 'quiet's to 'verbose' in menu.lst
[10:09] <rhythmsoup> It seems Knetwork manager offers WEP 40/104 bit nex and ASCII but Gnome network manager does not?
[10:09] <abs> thanks ActionParsnip , ikonia
[10:09] <buckethed> i am only able to boot if i remove the 2nd hard drive.  http://rafb.net/p/7anKk543.html  so i'm thinking it has something to do with that 7M space on my 2nd hard drive.  what can i do?
[10:10] <strebor> rhythmsoup: do you mean this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/269534
[10:10] <william-1234> It autostarted QuickSynergy but I would like it to auto-connect to my mac (on the local network). I am happy for it to run a process in the background rather than use QuickSynergy. Any ideas?
[10:12] <rhythmsoup> strebor: i dont think thats the same
[10:12] <rhythmsoup> my KDE based machine can connect to a friends network ok but my Gnome machine cannot, both machines are running 8.04
[10:13] <strebor> rhythmsoup: ok, nevermind then
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> rhythmsoup: are they using identical network cards?
[10:14] <darXbuntu> anyone here usig ubuntu as server?haw the perf?
[10:14] <darXbuntu> *how
[10:15] <rhythmsoup> ActionParsnip: no they are not
[10:15] <beli> darXbuntu: what other servers did you run before?
[10:15] <william-1234> Any ideas?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> rhythmsoup: then the comparison is moot between the DEs
[10:15] <rhythmsoup> ActionParsnip: ok i see, that makes sense, so its most likely the driver
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> rhythmsoup: it they had identical network hardware and one worked in gnome and the other didnt work in kde, then that is a good comparison
[10:16] <rhythmsoup> ActionParsnip: is there a good way to see what my network card would support?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> rhythmsoup: yep, you got it. run lspci and lsusb in the one thats bad and you can use the info to find out how to set it up
[10:17] <darXbuntu> before this i ran windows.but i think to switch to ubuntu,but in server enviroment,ubuntu is not so popular,not like fedora or redhat
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> rhythmsoup: also run ifconfig to see if it has an ip, if its using wired connection then make sure you have flashing data lights on the network sockets on the system and the interconnection device
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> darXbuntu: so what if its not "as popular" as redhat
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> darXbuntu: doesnt make it any better or worse
[10:18] <beli> darXbuntu: what are your needs? what services are you going to run on it? ...for how many ppl?
[10:18] <beli> darXbuntu: its a linux server....it scales like any other linux...remember: they are all distributions....its all linux
[10:18] <rhythmsoup> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[10:19] <com-5> And_
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> darXbuntu: linux wasnt this popular, say 10 years ago but it was still there and was still used by users
[10:19] <darXbuntu> ok.thanx.maybe i should switch tomorrow
[10:20] <beli> darXbuntu: it all depends on your needs....tell me how many ppl you want to server with what services....and on what hardware
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> darXbuntu: if windows suits your needs and you are happy with it then keep it, you could install ubuntu to a usb stick and give it a whirl, see what you think
[10:22] <darXbuntu> currently want to serv around 8k.for wireless hotspot.i just need firewall n wifidog.
[10:22] <darXbuntu> sumtimes windows crashes
[10:22] <darXbuntu> :(
[10:22] <Bhavik> Bhavik
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> darXbuntu: sometimes all OSes crash
[10:22] <jigp> hello guys
[10:22] <Bhavik> can i install and run the foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server ?
[10:23] <jigp> how to remove virtualbox ose? I want to isntall sunbox
[10:23] <Bhavik> can i install and run the foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server
[10:23] <beli> darXbuntu: if your hardware is supported i would use netbsd for that
[10:23] <Bhavik> can i install and run the foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> jigp: sudo apt-get --purge remove virtualbox-ose; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[10:23] <quibbler> jigp: from synaptic
[10:24] <jigp> it won't install xp
[10:24] <Bhavik> how am i install and run the Foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server ???
[10:24] <jigp> that's why I want to remove virtualbox ose
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> jigp: does the command i gave you work?
[10:25] <Bhavik> how am i install and run the Foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server ???
[10:25] <beli> darXbuntu: i prefere the firewall tools of bsd (pf). its better than netfilter in my eyes
[10:25] <simplexio> jigp: vbox-ose works fine with win guest here
[10:25] <jigp> ActionParsnip: not yet.because I installed the modules
[10:25] <jigp> simplexio how? im ubuntu 7.04 user gnome
[10:25] <Bhavik> how am i install and run the Foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server ???
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> jigp: the modules will be removed with autoremove
[10:26] <jigp> I use this tutorial http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog/show.dml/2855482
[10:26] <simplexio> jigp: well it worked on 7.04 too, now 8.10 and ok
[10:26] <jigp> but im stock
[10:26] <jigp> simplexio: how to install xp?
[10:26] <hippychick> !patience Bhavik
[10:26] <azlon> how can i make it so one of my desktop panels is not always on top
[10:26] <hippychick> ugg, i cant work the bot >.<
[10:26] <jigp> http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog/show.dml/2855482 simplexio this thing don't work
[10:26] <azlon> i want it pinned to the desktop or all the way in the background
[10:26] <Bhavik> OK...
[10:27] <jigp> simplexio I even add all the modules now.still don't work
[10:27] <simplexio> jigp: it not that hard if you follow manual
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> jigp: fine, just run the command i gave and it will remove
[10:27] <simplexio> jigp: do you mean that you dont get it work at all
[10:27] <quibbler> hippychick: !patience | Bhavik
[10:27] <jigp> simplexio : VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic
[10:27] <jigp> that
[10:27] <hippychick> quibbler, thanks :P
[10:28] <Bhavik> Sorry....
[10:28] <quibbler> hippychick: ;)
[10:28] <jigp> siplexio I even install all the modules
[10:28] <jigp> same thing
[10:28] <jigp> same error
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> jigp: sudo apt-get --purge remove virtualbox-ose; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[10:28] <simplexio> jigp: pastebin it
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !paste | jigp
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> jigp: pastebin the output in terminal from the command i gave you
[10:28] <jigp> ActionParsnip : okay later if no luck
[10:29] <plovs> vague question warning: lately i have a three seconds lag between applications i launch from my panel, after i have been running my login for a couple of hours? how to resolve?
[10:29] <jigp> simplexio ActionParsnip : http://pastebin.com/m73d12b6e
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> jigp: sure
[10:29] <Bhavik> Any one can help me for foxpro insallation in ubuntu ltsp srever...
[10:29] <jigp> simplexio ActionParsnip I even installed all the modules
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> jigp: its not installed right. Use this instead https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> jigp: are you a member of vbox and did you log of and on to make the membership active?
[10:30] <jigp> ActionParsnip: nope
[10:30] <jigp> ActionParsnip:  I want free..
[10:30] <BlackDex> Hello there
[10:31] <BlackDex> i have a sever with samba running
[10:31] <jigp> ActionParsnip:  so I will remove the virtualbox ose?
[10:31] <BlackDex> it has home folders per samba/unix login
[10:31] <Bhavik> how am i install and run the Foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server ???
[10:31] <BlackDex> If i login through a windows computer i see my home folder
[10:31] <BlackDex> but on Ubuntu i don't
[10:32] <Bhavik> how am i install and run the Foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server ???
[10:32] <BlackDex> how can i force a login when i do smb://server
[10:32] <jigp> ActionParsnip : I want to install xp pro. not ubuntu.
[10:32] <Bhavik> how am i install and run the Foxpro 2.6 in ubuntu ltsp server ???
[10:33] <rww> !repeat > Bhavik
[10:34] <spoonyFTS> blackdex: Have you tried doing a "File/Connect To Server " and choosing windows share in nautilus?
[10:34] <spoonyFTS> blackdex: you can specify other details in there, and use your local linux server name in there too
[10:34] <BlackDex> aha
[10:35] <BlackDex> that i never knew :$
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> jigp: are you installing vbox on ubuntu or windows
[10:35] <spoonyFTS> blackdex: Hope it helps :)
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> jigp: what OS is the host machine?
[10:35] <BlackDex> spoonyFTS: Can't fill in a password
[10:36] <jigp> ActionParsnip : im running ubuntu 8.04 gnome and I want to install xp pro in vbox ose but I have problem installing and that I gave tou the pastebiin
[10:36] <gluonman> I just wrote a C program in Ubuntu and I used g++ (name of program) -o (new name of program). But I named the executable of the original .c file the same as the original .c file. Now I can't view the code using cat, vim, or gedit. It's not readable by gedit. What do I do to see my code?
[10:36] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> jigp: well untill you can get virtualbox actually running, the OS of the guest system is the least of your worry
[10:37] <jigp> ActionParsnip and this is the problem
[10:37] <jigp> http://pastebin.com/m73d12b6e
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> jigp: you need to follow that guide to set up vbox first, then you can install whatever guest systems you like. The fact that it doesnt run means its not setup correctly, so you need to follow the guide I gave you to set it up correctly
[10:38] <spoonyFTS> blackdex: looking at it now.. It should prompt you if it requires one but I just tested and it automatically authenticates too. must be a way to specify something different. looking.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> gluonman: so you ran gcc code.c -o code.c  or something similar?
[10:40] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, yes
[10:40] <gluonman> unfortunately.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> gluonman: oh boy
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> gluonman: if yuo run ls -a you may see a similarly named file with a ~ on the end
[10:40] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, anyway to view that code again? I can't stand the idea of having to retype all of that.
[10:40] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, I'll try that.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> gluonman: not if you overwrote the code file with the outputted binary using the same name
[10:41] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, I hope I didn't.
[10:42] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, no hidden files. So there's no way to use the file I wrote and somehow see the code I wrote?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> gluonman: you can decompile the binary but the exact code wont come out
[10:42] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, if I can salvage some of it, filling it in won't be too hard.
[10:43] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, how do I decompile it?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> !decompile
[10:44] <foul_owl> Has anyone had the problem of having Nvidia drivers being installed, and apparently working, but no direct rendering?
[10:44] <spoonyFTS> blackdex: Ive seen a few references to nautilus having a bug to do with smb authentication
[10:44] <spoonyFTS> blackdex: status is confirmed so not sure if its still around the bug..
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> !info dcc
[10:45] <spoonyFTS> err status is unconfirmed i mean
[10:45] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, I think gdb is the way to do it.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gluonman: http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~cristina/dcc.html
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gluonman: there will be a few apps for it
[10:45] <spoonyFTS> blackdex: see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520551
[10:46] <spoonyFTS> blackdex: not sure if its the same issue
[10:46] <gluonman> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[10:47] <singleendedtriod> Hi guys, I need some noob help - I'm running Ubuntu 8.10, have privoxy and tor button, everything "says" tor enabled, using tor. My problem is, when I load the "am I using tor" website, it says I'm not.
[10:47] <BlackDex> spoonyFTS: thx.. il look at that
[10:49] <BlackDex> spoonyFTS: looks like the same prob
[10:50] <tess> hi every one whats the room for ubuntu on eee pcs
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> !eeepc
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> tess: installing ubuntu on anything help is here
[10:52] <tess> ok using eeepc 900hd and all runs perfect except the function wifi on off key
[10:52] <petraltt> can any body help me
[10:53] <tess> i used the eeebuntu version from eeebunutu.org and i beleive its ubuntu 8.10
[10:53] <corigo3> !install.sh
[10:53] <corigo3> !sh
[10:53] <roxlu> hi
[10:54] <roxlu> A couple of days ago I heard about a music server.. Does someone knows some popular applications/packages for ubuntu?
[10:54] <corigo3> I have a memory like a seive... I've extracted my tar.gz to a folder and now need to run the install.sh file... what is the command?
[10:55] <singleendedtriod> Any help for tor guys?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> corigo3: chmod +x ./install.sh; ./install.sh
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> corigo3: you need to be in the folder you extracted the files to
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> corigo3: if the script needs sudo, use it
[10:57] <Doble> Hi - can anyone give me a hand with pureftp set up ?
[10:58] <petraltt> can anyone tell me how ti install ubuntu on an external HDD
[10:58] <corigo3> ActionParsnip... but will actually execute the shell script?
[10:58] <corigo3> sorry missed the ";"
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> corigo3: yes, after you have ran that command it will run
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> corigo3: you can copy and paste to terminal, thats why i give the full command
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> and no word of thanks :(
[10:59] <_VIM_> haha
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> s/he's off my christmas card list
[11:00] <oCean_> :)
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> i hate ungrateful users
[11:01] <_VIM_> maybe that script borked his computer
[11:01] <foul_owl> can anyone help me get the nvidia drivers to work
[11:01] <glitsj16> roxlu: if you heard about Music Player Daemon (mpd), there's http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/MPD_INSTALL_USER_SERVICE_UBUNTU to install the daemon .. you'll need a client as well, gmpc (the same website) is just one of several options there (search in synaptic for mpd client to get more options).
[11:01] <roxlu> thanks a lot!
[11:03] <quibbler> Doble: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP
[11:04] <Riya_> is there any software similar to aircrack
[11:05] <suji> how to know the server name in ubuntu using terminal
[11:05] <simplexio> Riya_: kismet and aicrack-ng ? havent used but i have heard that those all usefull
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> foul_owl: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:05] <quibbler> Riya_: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528276
[11:06] <foul_owl> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> foul_owl: and what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[11:07] <foul_owl> intrepid
[11:07] <suji> anybody know how to know the server name in ubuntu using terminal command?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> foul_owl: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> foul_owl: restart x server with ctrl+alt+backspace and then log in again, then run gksudo nvidia-settings
[11:08] <Userisk> jaunty upgrade problem - many programs terminate immediately with "cannot connect to X server :0.0", does anyone have an idea?
[11:08] <_VIM_> Userisk: ask in #Ubuntu+
[11:08] <_VIM_> 1
[11:08] <Userisk> thanks
[11:08] <_VIM_> np
[11:09] <foul_owl> hardware drivers show that 180.23 is already installed and in use, but i get no direct rendering
[11:09] <cooldduuudde> hi. gparted shows only one of my two hard disks.
[11:09]  * Userisk hopes someone turns up oO
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> foul_owl: i have a similar card, it doesnt work with the 180 on mine but is great with 177
[11:09] <foul_owl> *180.29
[11:10] <foul_owl> ok, I'll give 177 a shot! thanks Parsnip, brb :)
[11:10] <NativeAngels> hello can anyone tell me when i do nslookup gw do i get non-authorotive answer: cant find gw:no answer
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: do yu have name servers defined in /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:16] <lllama> Anyone had any luck using explore2fs to get at a wubi disk?
[11:16] <chronic> bazhang, why r u being a coward?
[11:17] <jsanakonda> ?
[11:17] <ikonia> jsanakonda: what's up
[11:18] <jsanakonda> all good
[11:19] <NativeAngels> yes i do ActionParsnip
[11:20] <sleepy_cat> i have got three files.. two c files and one header file
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: can you ping them
[11:26] <jhonny> ragazzi
[11:26] <jhonny> ciao a tutti
[11:26] <jhonny> io ho un problema cn amule
[11:26] <bazhang> !it
[11:26] <jhonny> nn ho priorità ne fonti
[11:26] <q0_0p> i have internet connection through wifi; can ICS through my ethernet
[11:27] <foul_owl> hey, so it said it couldn't load the module "type1" and also there was a crash report saying that the package 177 couldn't be installed
[11:28] <TheSlayer> Why do i always get the "This nickname is registered" messages here?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !ics
[11:30] <glitsj16> TheSlayer: means someone else registered that nickname on irc.freenode.net ...
[11:30] <TheSlayer> glitsj16: I have already tried three of them. LegendaryDarkKnight (which was shortened to LegendaryDarkKni for some reason), Slayer, and TheSlayer
[11:30] <FaMott|Sleeps> !X
[11:31] <blip-> hi all,   I installed a package called matplotlib documentation from the hardy repos.  any idea where I can find the actual docs I just installed ?   thanks
[11:32] <glitsj16> TheSlayer: nothing much you can do except try another one you like that isn't allready registered i suppose
[11:32] <TheSlayer> glitsj16: Why should i? I can talk with this one as well xD
[11:32] <TheSlayer> Allright whatever. We got kinda offtopic.
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> blip-: try: man matplotlib
[11:33] <DJones> TheSlayer: It might be worth you joining the freenode admin channel #freenode and asking there about help registering a nickname that you want
[11:33] <blip-> ActionParsnip: there isn't a manpage for it.
[11:34] <TheSlayer> DJones: K, thanks. Will do later... Can u explain me when does the name change? I know that there are tons of these, and that 8.10 is Interpid Ibex
[11:34] <blip-> ActionParsnip: this is what i installed http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
[11:34] <blip-> *   http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> blip-: then the developers site should have some documentation, it is just a lib and not an app as such
[11:34] <NativeAngels> ActionParsnip i got unknown host when i did ping
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> blip-: http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/contents.html
[11:34] <blip-> ActionParsnip: hmm, yes they have docs online but the ubuntu version is quite a bit older so I'm not sure if it may be different
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: can you ping ip addresses? try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:35] <DJones> TheSlayer: Ubuntu gets updated every 6 months, the next version is due in April and will be 9.04 Jaunty Jakelope
[11:35] <blip-> on hardy i have 0.91
[11:35] <blip-> cur ver is 98
[11:35] <FaMott|Sleeps> !upgrade
[11:35] <TheSlayer> DJones: Do i have to update, or can i keep Interpid Ibex?
[11:36] <FaMott|Sleeps> Ubottu! UsefuL!
[11:36] <FaMott|Sleeps> ...
[11:36] <itai_michaelson> whats the name of the package with all the extra codecs and stuff - ubuntu-restricted-extras or something? (on interepid)
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> blip-: is 0.91 not working for you?
[11:36] <TheSlayer> ubottu is a robot, FaMott|Sleeps, giving him UsefuL! is same as trying to "man UsefuL!"
[11:38] <blip-> ActionParsnip: it is, but I mean the documentation on the website if for 0.98 so it will be different from 0.91.   I don't understand why the docs I installed are not on the machine.  shall I search for matplotlib in root ?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> blip-: you could try: sudo find / -name matplo*
[11:38] <DJones> TheSlayer: You don't have to update, you can stick with Intrepid, but that will stop getting security updates in April 2010, plus the 6 monthly updates normally include updated versions of software which will have been released since 8.10 eg open office 3 which isn't available by default, if you wanted to keep getting security updates, you'd need to upgrade by April 2010 anyway
[11:39] <NativeAngels> yes ActionParsnip
[11:39] <TheSlayer> DJones: OMG... I mean, i setup Interpid like i like it, and if i need to re-install the os, then i will lose all the settings
[11:40] <FaMott|Sleeps> is 9.04 the next LTS or?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: then your dns servers that you are using are not working
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: or are down
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: or dont exist
[11:40] <DJones> TheSlayer: YOu shouldn't lose your settings if you use the update procedure, its only when you do a fresh install that you'd normally lose things
[11:40] <damaltor> hi everybody, i wat to install xfce parallel to kde so i can choose before login. is it enough to just install the package xfce4? or do i have to configure something else?
[11:40] <TheSlayer> DJones: .... update procedure?
[11:41] <NativeAngels> but i have set up a binddns server on my linux box ActionParsnip
[11:41] <max82fr> Hi guys
[11:41] <TheSlayer> max82fr: Hello.
[11:41] <max82fr> I need help on getting rid of Ubuntu and re installing Windows instead
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> NativeAngels: it may be interfering
[11:41] <NativeAngels> as per this tutorial http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/11/07/how-to-setup-a-dns-server-in-ubuntu/
 Hi
can u help?
[11:41] <damaltor> max82fr: put your win disk in, and tell the setup to use whole hdd. thats it.
[11:42] <davygrvy> Hi, having problems with the alternate installer running in low memory mode.  I can boot the CD_ROM from floppy with SBM, but once the installer kernel loads it bombs on step 3 "detecting and mounting cd-rom" and asks me for a "driver floppy".  What's a driver floppy and how do I make it?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> max82fr: ##windows will help you reinstall, just delete the partitions of rlinux and you can reinstall on the drive
[11:42] <TheSlayer> max82fr: heh... Why don't u like the Ubuntu? Anyhow... Yeah. Besides, u will have to format the hard drive.
[11:42] <DJones> !upgrade | TheSlayer Have a look at the info in ubottu's database, that should help you
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> max82fr: make sure you backup any data on the partitions before you begin
  it wouldn t start from the cd
[11:42] <max82fr> been told I needed to install a bootloader or something before???
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> max82fr: check in bios to make sure cd is first boot device then internal hard drive
[11:43] <damaltor> max82fr: then you got some non-bootable disk from the net, or you misconfigured your startup sequence in bios. try pressing Esc or F12 while starting to choose the disc.
that s the thing. Ihave a Vaio laptop. Bios is protected by password, never given
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> max82fr: there may be a key you can press to select boot device
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> max82fr: like f13 or f11 like damaltor says
it says Entering Bios and then Password???
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> max82fr: either way its offtopic for here
[11:44] <IamSOG> um..
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> max82fr: try f11 or f12
[11:44] <damaltor> max82fr: no bootloader needed. if your disc is bootable, you can directly boot into.
 sorry, no one would help in windows room
[11:44] <max82fr> oki will try
[11:44] <damaltor> max82fr: tell it your password :P
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> !ot | max82fr
don t have it. never given
[11:45] <IamSOG> just take out the battery on the board will reset the password and everything in the BIOS...
[11:45] <simplexio> could we get ubottu to teach right way to address some one in irc ? that would be nice
[11:45] <max82fr> thanks guys and fuck off><ubottu>
[11:45] <bazhang> !who | simplexio
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> max82fr: boot the system and press F11 lots, if its no good, rebot and press F12 lots
[11:45] <max82fr> thanks
[11:45] <bazhang> max82fr, watch the language
[11:45] <max82fr> LOve ya
[11:46] <max82fr> bazhang> yes mum
[11:46] <damaltor> hi everybody, i want to install xfce parallel to kde so i can choose before login. is it enough to just install the package xfce4? or do i have to configure something else?
[11:46] <davygrvy> Hi, having problems with the alternate installer running in low memory mode.  I can boot the CD_ROM from floppy with SBM, but once the installer kernel loads it bombs on step 3 "detecting and mounting cd-rom" and asks me for a "driver floppy".  What's a driver floppy and how do I make it?
[11:46] <simplexio> bazhang: yeah, right. learn to read
[11:46] <simplexio> bazhang: sorry.. i need to learn read
[11:47] <magnetron> davygrvy→ what kind of floppy did you use to boot the alternate CD?
[11:47] <simplexio> isnt it a irc standart to use nickname: at start ? i have been using irssi so long that i cant  remember what mirc does
[11:47] <TheSlayer> Can anyone say which version actually is better? Ubuntu, Xubuntu, or Kubuntu?
[11:47] <dimebar> TheSlayer: entirely depends on whether you prefer GNOME, KDE or XFCE
[11:48] <simplexio> TheSlayer: only difference is desktop enviroment, xubuntu should be best for small computer
[11:48] <davygrvy> magnetron: dd if=/dev/cdrom0/install/sbm.img of=/dev/fd0
[11:48] <Anarhist> how can i get a list of all the installed packages. i want to reinstall ubuntu, but want to know what i will need to apt-get after that
[11:48] <damaltor> TheSlayer: Kubuntu is luxury. on cost of performance. Xubuntu is very fast, but no luxury at all. ubuntu is some mid-way thing, fast but nice. i like kubuntu best, but now am installing xubutu because of performance
[11:48] <Apolo> join #ubuntu-br
[11:49] <TheSlayer> ah..... then i will just keep the Ubuntu. Apolo, put the "/" before commands. (/join ubuntu-br)
[11:50] <deany> does the usb-creator app in 8.10 create a usb install with alternative style installer or the live style installer?
[11:50] <davygrvy> magnetron: I used the 'smart boot manager' image on the alternate install cd-rom
[11:52] <_sunny_v_666> hello!!!
[11:53] <Boohbah> !hi | _sunny_v_666
[11:53] <davygrvy> alternate installer trouble.  Step #3 "detecting and mounting cd-rom" bombs.  I booted the installer from CD-ROM by way of 'smart boot manager' on a floppy, but once kernel loads it can't detect how it got loaded
[11:54] <foul_owl> ActionParsnip: module "type1" could not be loaded
[11:55] <_sunny_v_666> guys... i have a confession to make.. i use Xp too sometimes... I m guilty!!! :(
[11:55] <davygrvy> at the "boot:" line, can add anything like a port address of where the CD-ROM is?
[11:55] <ikonia> _sunny_v_666: that is not a problem, nor anything to be ashamed of
[11:55] <_sunny_v_666> yaaaaaaaa
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> foul_owl: then you need to find the package with that module in, or compile it
[11:55] <ikonia> davygrvy: what do you want to do ?
[11:56] <_sunny_v_666> i think remote installation might solve the problem
[11:56] <davygrvy> ikaros, I want the installer to detect my CD-ROM
[11:56] <ikonia> davygrvy: ok - so the fact that it's booting shows it can see the CDROM  - it wouldn't boot if it couldn't see the cdrom
[11:57] <davygrvy> ikaros, not exactly true...  'smart boot manager' is kicking it off
[11:57] <ikonia> davygrvy: it doesn't matter - if the cd is "booting" it can see the cdrom
[11:57] <davygrvy> ikaros, SBM is used because the bios doesn't support booting off a cd-rom
[11:58] <ikonia> davygrvy: that's nothing to do with ubuntu as an OS - and how old is this motherboard that you can't boot from a cdrom ?
[11:58] <_sunny_v_666> The problem might be with your BIOS... Does your system even decect any CD when you try to watch movies or something?
[11:58] <foul_owl> the package nvidia-kernel-177-source is already installed though
[11:58] <davygrvy> ikaros, ok, then you tell me why the installer is bombing and asking me for a driver disc (floppy)
[11:58] <ikaros> try to highlight ikonia pleas davygrvy
[11:58] <ikaros> =)
[11:58] <davygrvy> hehe, sorry
[11:58] <ikaros> np
[11:58] <ikonia> davygrvy: are you sure it's asking you for a driver disk ??/
[11:58] <Certh> hi
[11:59] <foul_owl> i am guessing that some stage of the driver installation, the kernel module is supposed to be compiled?
[11:59] <Certh> please test my repo
[11:59] <ikonia> davygrvy: what is the exact error message and at what point
[11:59] <ikonia> foul_owl: it's all pre-compiled
[11:59] <ikonia> foul_owl: there is nothing to compile at install time
[11:59] <ikonia> Certh: you can test it yourself
[11:59] <davygrvy> ikonia: yes, i'm sure, that is exactly what the dialog says
[11:59] <_sunny_v_666> davygrvy, can u use VCDs or movie DVDs???
[11:59] <ikonia> davygrvy: at what point do you get that message
[12:00] <davygrvy> ikonia, step #3 "detecting and mounting cd-rom"
[12:00] <_sunny_v_666> you don't need to compile anything during installation
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: have you seen the genbuntu idea? It uses apt-build instead of apt-get to compile the system in, like gentoo
[12:00] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: not aware of it no
[12:00] <xdfz> Yop all, I have a problem, I can't install gtk2 themes =( it says me that gtk engine is not installed on my computer
[12:00] <ikonia> davygrvy: how old is this board?
[12:00] <foul_owl> what should i do now? the package is installed, it just seems like the kernel can't find the module for some reason
[12:00] <davygrvy> ikonia, about 1997
[12:01] <ikonia> davygrvy: and it can't boot from cdrom ?
[12:01] <davygrvy> ikonia, true
[12:01] <ikonia> davygrvy: that's not meant rude, it's just quite surprising
[12:01] <ikonia> foul_owl: what are you trying to do
[12:02] <davygrvy> ikonia, at the "boot:" line is there anything I can add like a port address for the cd-rom drive?
[12:02] <ikonia> davygrvy: reboot - and remove the "splash" screen from the installer so you can see what's going on.
[12:02] <yoky> Hi
[12:02] <ikonia> davygrvy: from that any errors before you get asked for a drive disk may give us a clue on how to fix it
[12:02] <yoky> tray thed
[12:02] <yoky> its 100%
[12:02] <ikonia> yoky: ?
[12:02] <foul_owl> ikonia: i am trying to install nvidia drivers
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> davygrvy: have you tried some bootoptions?
[12:02] <davygrvy> ikonia, this is the alternate installer, there is no gui
[12:02] <yoky> ferr
[12:02] <ikonia> davygrvy: the splash screen
[12:02] <ikonia> davygrvy: get verbose output
[12:02] <davygrvy> ikonia, no, what are my options?
[12:02] <ikonia> foul_owl: how ?
[12:03] <ikonia> davygrvy: isn't there an option to pass "nosplash" to the boot line ?
[12:03] <piloten1975> How do I transfert files between 2 ssh connections?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | davygrvy ikonia
[12:03] <jrib> piloten1975: you can use scp
[12:03] <_sunny_v_666> The problem might be with your BIOS... Does your system even decect any CD when you try to watch movies or something?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> piloten1975: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352119
[12:04] <foul_owl> ikonia: apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[12:04] <davygrvy> _sunny_v_666: cd only..  it can't play DVDs
[12:04] <foul_owl> also, with hardware drivers manager
[12:04] <_sunny_v_666> where can I get some good debian packages???
[12:04] <foul_owl> either works
[12:04] <foul_owl> *neither
[12:04] <ikonia> foul_owl: ok, is there a reason you're not using the hardware manager ?
[12:04] <jrib> _sunny_v_666: do you know about APT and Synaptic?
[12:04] <davygrvy> _sunny_v_666: I don;t think DVD existed yet in 1996
[12:04] <ikonia> foul_owl: the hardware manager "gui" I mean
[12:05] <ikonia> davygrvy: get the verbose output and lets see what it thinks of the cdrom
[12:05] <ikonia> davygrvy: maybe something we can do to help
[12:05] <travian_geek> how to grep a singel letter from a string? using echo and grep???
[12:05] <foul_owl> I tried using the gui, but it didn't enable the drivers
[12:05] <_sunny_v_666> sorry.. i didnt kno dat ur Cd player dates back to da 90s
[12:05] <_sunny_v_666> :)
[12:05] <jrib> travian_geek: echo STRING | grep SINGLE_LETTER   ?
[12:05] <foul_owl> it said the drivers were enabled (180) but i was getting no direct rendering
[12:05] <davygrvy> ikonia, laptop not in front of me, will have to wait till tomorrow
[12:05] <glitsj16> xdfz: running "sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines" from a terminal (without the quotes) will install the default gtk theme engines
[12:05] <ikonia> foul_owl: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file please into a pastebin
[12:05] <ikonia> davygrvy: no problem
[12:06] <foul_owl> i tried 177, but now the kernel moduel won't load
[12:06] <_sunny_v_666> ok...
[12:06] <ikonia> foul_owl: how do you know it won't load ?
[12:06] <piloten1975> how do I set a custom port on sftp?    sftp x.x.x.x:333 doesnt work...
[12:06] <RickX> is anyone having problems getting Nautilus to mount the Homes Samba share?
[12:06] <foul_owl> my xorg.conf was generated from nvidia-xconfig
[12:06] <ikonia> foul_owl: why ?
[12:06] <ikonia> foul_owl: why did you use nvidia-xconfig ?
[12:06] <foul_owl> error when x starts
[12:06] <travian_geek> jrib, yeah I tride that but i only whant to grep that singel letter and yor example dont
[12:06] <ikonia> foul_owl: what error when X starts ?
[12:06] <_sunny_v_666> see if you set you bios to boot from CD... REMEMBER 1ST PRIORITY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO CD
[12:07] <_sunny_v_666> 1997??? What is ur RAM?
[12:07] <jrib> travian_geek: then you don't mean you want to "grep", you mean something else.  Try with -o and see if that's what you want.  If it's not, then explain what you want
[12:07] <foul_owl> aren't you supposed to use nvidia-xconfig if you have an nvidia card? also, the error is : cannot load module "type1"
[12:07] <ikonia> foul_owl: ok - that's not a kernel module
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !caps | _sunny_v_666
[12:07] <mojo> how can i go about troubleshooting a long pause from when i select logout to when the logout dialog appears in gnome?  i have tried from the menu and from the 'button' on the panel, and many times there is this long pause of 30-50 seconds where i can't do anything
[12:07] <ikonia> foul_owl: please don't make statments that you aren't sure of, if you don't know say "I don't know" - that's not a kernel module
[12:07] <_sunny_v_666> Nobody is listening
[12:07] <xdfz> glitsj16: thanks
[12:08] <ikonia> _sunny_v_666: yes they are
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> _sunny_v_666: my systems from 1996 boot cd fine
[12:08] <mojo> oh, i am using hardy ubuntustudio variety
[12:08] <travian_geek> jrib, Okey the -o worked I think I should have read the man page better :P
[12:08] <jrib> travian_geek: it doesn't make sense to me why you want to use that though
[12:08] <_sunny_v_666> No, ActionParsnip.. i was actually talkin with davygrvy... sorry for da confusion
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> _sunny_v_666: k7 SlotA AMD 650Mhz w/ 128mb SDRAM, Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra 32Mb
[12:09] <foul_owl> sorry about that
[12:09] <foul_owl> what is this "type1" ?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> _sunny_v_666: if you use words like 'da' and 'dat' people are likely to take you less seriously
[12:09] <ikonia> foul_owl: xorg font as I recall
[12:10] <foul_owl> ok, let me paste my xorg.conf
[12:10] <_sunny_v_666> soory, dude... But I am talking literature here
[12:10] <ikonia> foul_owl: please use a pastebin
[12:11] <foul_owl> ikonia: http://rafb.net/p/yMhPCI97.html
[12:11] <foul_owl> thank you for your help btw!
[12:12] <ikonia> foul_owl: ok - so what is the problem you're actually having, that xorg file looks quite sane
[12:13] <mojo> i have another question; i am about to google it when firefox loads but how do i reset my default keyring password?  i finally decided to tell my mail notifier to remember it; i created a strong password, but i seem to have got it wrong and need to reset it.
[12:13] <foul_owl> when x trys to start, it starts in low video mode. it complains about not being able to load module "type1"
[12:13] <foul_owl> this is after disabling 180, and enabling 177
[12:14] <foul_owl> 180 i can't get direct rendering despite the driver supposedly being "active"
[12:14] <ikonia> foul_owl: forget direct rendering for the moment
[12:14] <ikonia> foul_owl: what video card do you have?
[12:14] <foul_owl> geforce 6600 gt
[12:15] <ikonia> foul_owl: ok - so has this ever worked ?
[12:15] <foul_owl> yes
[12:15] <foul_owl> 180 drivers worked for about three days
[12:15] <ikonia> foul_owl: then what happened ?
[12:16] <foul_owl> then direct rendering stopped working for no apparent reason
[12:16] <foul_owl> i have had this happen in the past too with other drivers
[12:16] <foul_owl> they work for a little while, then without warning direct rendering stops working
[12:17] <ikonia> foul_owl: ok - so what about the resoltion ?
[12:17] <ikonia> foul_owl: what happened to make that stop working
[12:18] <foul_owl> removing the 180 drivers and installing the 177
[12:18] <kam> re comment savoir si l'on est sous eddgy dapper ou feysty
[12:18] <kam> et cela correspond a quoi ?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> mojo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=457260
[12:18] <kam> ?