[02:59] <mleger> somatt: I see yea I think they have set top boxes you can buy to stream
[02:59] <xunil> mleger: ya.. but the new windows 7 is pretty freakin sweet i must say......
[02:59] <somatt> mleger, yea but i wanna do it from my lappy toppy
[02:59] <ag0x> hey
[02:59] <mleger> somatt: we should start requesting linux support
[03:00] <azharcs_> xunil : http://pastie.org/467210
[03:00] <somatt> mleger thousands of others already have
[03:00] <somatt> mleger, they don't give a $h1t
[03:00] <mleger> xunil: I heard. are you on beta or rc?
[03:00] <xunil> mleger: still in beta.. havent gotten around to rc
[03:00] <tkt> Anyone know a good channel for just BSing?
[03:00] <LadyNikon> tkt: ubuntu.chat?
[03:00] <M25> tkt: not this one
[03:00] <ghindo> tkt: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:00] <ag0x> can someone tell me what are the dependencies for metagoofill please ?
[03:00] <cfedde> tkt: depents on the topic.
[03:00] <Chaorain> Is the dell insperon mini 9 a good Ubuntu platform?
[03:00] <cfedde> depends
[03:00] <PinguPingu> jp_sf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-exchange/+bug/209438
[03:00] <mleger> yea its only released to certain groups but may 5th definitely going to try this out
[03:01] <cfedde> #metalica
[03:01] <M25> Chaorain: yes! there's a website specifically devoted to using it as such
[03:01] <mleger> xunil: see my post about that was for u
[03:01] <tkt> M25, thats why i was asking, thanks for your fucking help
[03:01] <somatt> Chaorain, yes but the asus eeepc and msiwind are supposedly better
[03:01] <LadyNikon> ag0x: why not go into synaptic and click on it.  It will give you alist i believe
[03:01] <tkt> LadyNikon, thank you
[03:01] <ghindo> Chaorain: It should be - I think Ubuntu comes preinstalled on the Mini 9
[03:01] <tkt> ghindo, thank you
[03:01] <mleger> xunil: anyway kde finished reinstalling I'm going to try to login into a session see if it works. Thanks for your help!!!
[03:01] <ghindo> Can anybody help me get GRUB to recognize more than one OS please?
[03:01] <somatt> Chaorain, I would try the netbook remix it's pretty sweet on a 9" screen
[03:01] <azlon> there is a program to make a dock bar like in Mac OSX but I forget the name of it... can somebody throw a couple name out for me?
[03:01] <xunil> mleger: hope it works!
[03:02] <mleger> azlon: awn
[03:02] <xunil> azlon: check out gdesklets
[03:02] <somatt> can anyone help me to add something to my crontab
[03:02] <mleger> azlon: or cairodock
[03:02] <somatt> srsly crontab shouldn't be that difficult to edit, right?
[03:02] <ghindo> azlon: AWN, Gnome-Do...
[03:02] <azlon> mieger: that's it... awn, thanks
[03:02] <mleger> azlon: personally I like awn avant window manager. I think it runs smoother
[03:02] <saccarrep> azlon AWN is pretty nice
[03:02] <coleys> azlon: Awn here too!
[03:02] <Luigi> So, have there been any distro updates to fix the intel graphics problems yet?
[03:02] <xunil> azharcs_: what was the error you were getting?
[03:03] <M25> Gnome-do ftw, but it's not a dock really, it just happens to be able to look like one
[03:03] <azlon> !awn
[03:03] <saccarrep> is it the 3D thing?
[03:03] <azharcs_> xunil: Error 17: Cannot Mount Selected Partition
[03:03] <LadyNikon> ghindo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:03] <saccarrep> I use intel too
[03:03] <M25> fast user switching (logging as a second user while already logged in as one using the user-switch applet in the panel) causes compiz to be disabled for the second user, is this expected?
[03:03] <ghindo> LadyNikon: Thank you!
[03:03] <khensthoth> Luigi: Try enabling the proposed updates, see if that helps. No guarantee though.
[03:03] <ag0x> can someone tell me what are the dependencies for metagoofill on ubuntu please
[03:03] <LadyNikon> ghindo: google is your friend
[03:04] <xunil> azharcs_: did it start that right after you installed?
[03:04] <LadyNikon> ag0x: go into synaptic and try to install it.. it will tell you
[03:04] <somatt> can anyone help me to add something to my crontab
[03:04] <LadyNikon> somatt: no one can help you unless you give them a real question.. like what you want to do with it
[03:04] <tkt> somatt, google can probably help
[03:04] <Luigi> khensthoth: Do you mean the proposed workarounds, or some kind of actual fix?
[03:04] <xunil> azharcs_: o, and if you have multiple hard drives... i noticed that they need to be in the same order in your BIOS for them to appear the same on the hdd maps for grub
[03:04] <azharcs_> xunil: no, no. I had some problems booting after I formatted Windows, so I reinstalled grub and then I am getting this problem
[03:04] <jazzlamb> can anyone tell me if the sound card issue has been resolved for Asus M51 in v9.04
[03:04] <somatt> tkt i have already searched google for hour and nothing is very helpful
[03:05] <wolter> hi
[03:05] <M25> somatt: one sec, got a page for ya
[03:05] <coleys> Check my Connky =D http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotfur.png
[03:05] <khensthoth> Luigi: workaround I think.
[03:05] <ag0x> it doesn t exist on synaptic
[03:05] <wolter> is ext4 now flawless?
[03:05] <somatt> M25 thank you
[03:05] <jeffreyf1> kind of off topic - any one know of a PHP/MySQL CRM + HelpDesk/Ticketing system with possibly ERP
[03:05] <xunil> azharcs_: where did u point the partition/kernal to?
[03:05] <behappy> how to put a string in the top of files ?.
[03:05] <jazzlamb> sorry for the non-sequitor question
[03:05] <azharcs_> xunil: How do i do that in BIOS
[03:05] <tkt> somatt, not even this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[03:05] <somatt> ladynikon I'm trying to get screen and rtorrent to run as my user at startup.  I have tried using crontab -e by adding the line "@reboot /usr/bin/screen /usr/bin/rtorrent" but this had no effect.  Do I need to add myself to the /etc/cron.allow file?  Am I going in the right direction?  Does anyone have any ideas?
[03:05] <somatt> no not that
[03:05] <LadyNikon> ag0x: have you tried http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:05] <Chaorain> M25, what is the site?
[03:06] <cfedde> jeffreyf1: that seems upside down. there are some ERP that happen to have ticketing.
[03:06] <azlon> I don't see any deb files for AWN in 9.04. will a 8.10 deb work just as well?
[03:06] <xunil> azharcs_: depending on your motherboard.. some times its the boot order, and sometimes it is an actuall "hard drive" option
[03:06] <somatt> tkt I've read that and it doesn't help since the questions i'm asking are referencing that page.
[03:06] <somatt> tkt I'm trying to get screen and rtorrent to run as my user at startup.  I have tried using crontab -e by adding the line "@reboot /usr/bin/screen /usr/bin/rtorrent" but this had no effect.  Do I need to add myself to the /etc/cron.allow file?  Am I going in the right direction?  Does anyone have any ideas?
[03:06] <M25> somatt, Chaorain: here's a way to do it with setting an alarm as an example, it helped me: http://www.federicopistono.org/Set_up_an_MP3_OGG_Alarm_Clock_Using_Linux
[03:06] <powertool08> Anybody here use snort on a small network? I put a hub between my modem and router but its not seeing any of my lan traffic.
[03:06] <coleys> :)
[03:06] <azharcs_> xunil : I didn't point it anywhere, I just reinstalled grub and I am getting this error. If you need any conf files let me know.
[03:07] <ag0x> Sorry, your search gave no results
[03:07] <ag0x> it doesn t exist on
[03:07] <LadyNikon> ag0x: sounds like something your going to have to install yourself
[03:07] <ag0x> ive tryed thats why i am asking
[03:07] <LadyNikon> if its not found anywhere.
[03:07] <xunil> azharcs_; you have to tell it where the kernal image is.... eg: kernel	/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2
[03:07] <jeffreyf1> cfedde: I know.  small startup for computer service....want to keep track of my customers, their service tickets (stuff they call me for) as well as keep track of my income....possibly ERP isn't the app, maybe accounting
[03:07] <somatt> m25 thanks that's the most helpful thing I've seen
[03:08] <LadyNikon> ag0x: right but your asking in this channel which is for ubuntu .. maybe try the ubuntu forums if you dont find anyone who knows the package here
[03:08] <azharcs_> xunil: how do i know it and change the menu.lst
[03:08] <LadyNikon> ag0x: or maybe if that program has an irc channel
[03:08] <genii> jeffreyf1: I set up before an app called PHProjekt for this, I would recommend it again to anyone.
[03:08] <ag0x> thanks for your attention ladynikon
[03:08] <Chaorain> !laptop
[03:08] <xunil> it would be in the /boot/grub
[03:09] <xunil> but the only way (that i know of) to mount a linux partiion is with another linux system
[03:09] <syntax\> what is -rwx------ in numbers?
[03:09] <xunil> azharch_ the other way would be to boot into a repair console off the live disk and edit it that way
[03:10] <wolter> is ext4 still dangerous to use?
[03:10] <twolane> syntax\: 700
[03:10] <Severian> syntax\, 700
[03:10] <syntax\> thanks,..
[03:10] <GreatBigBubble> anyone know about apache server setting up?
[03:10] <wolter> GreatBigBubble, there is documentation out there... use google
[03:10] <khensthoth> wolter: I would discourage using it. Had several kernel panics.
[03:10] <azharcs_> xunil: I am already using live disk, what kind of changes should i make now.
[03:11] <wolter> khensthoth, uh ok, thanks/
[03:11] <jazzlamb> thanks for the laptop links
[03:11] <wolter> but with the prerelease or with the final one?
[03:11] <lhcs> Is anybody having troulble upgrading form 8.10 to 9.04? Last night I tried and now my system won't come up. I get a login screen but after that just a arrow and a blank screen. Any ideas on where to go from here?
[03:11] <jp_sf> wolter: a gun is dangerous a filesystem not sure,, experimental flag has been removed since end of last year
[03:11] <Luigi> Would I need to get rid of the integrated GPU to install a new card? The other ones go in through PCI, right?
[03:11] <advance> Hey is there a way to send a NET-SEND type command to another linux box on the same network without installing software on one of the machines?v
[03:11] <Severian> lhcs, I did that last night on a system and it is fine.
[03:11] <sebsebseb> wolter: hi
[03:12] <xunil> azharch_: i cant remember exactally how to do it from there... but i know theres info online about it... i had to do it a while back when an install went bad
[03:12] <GreatBigBubble> wolter: yeah, but its a port foward issue i think.  when i can see my file tree fine under my local ip, but when i use my static it won't work.  i'm quite sure i have my ports foward correctly seeing as i have used apache before on this amchine
[03:12] <wolter> jp_sf, well, it may  be experimental no more, but it is still capable of corrupting your files. At least it was a week ago
[03:12] <ticked> this is crazy, there has to be a decent tutorial to tell you how to get madwifi working on ubuntu, so i can use my atheros AR5008X
[03:12] <khensthoth> wolter:Ubuntu 9.04 final. I reinstalled my system to be ext3 and problem solved.
[03:12] <wolter> hey sebsebseb
[03:12] <Chaorain> !laptop
[03:12] <azharcs_> xunil: oh...ok, will check it out. Thanks.
[03:12] <cfedde> jeffreyf1: have you looked at openerp for example?
[03:12] <lhcs> I upgraded my wifes unit before mine and everything went fine.
[03:12] <sebsebseb> wolter: you were asking about Ext4?
[03:12] <wolter> khensthoth, ah ok, thanks.
[03:12] <xunil> azharch_: hope tht helped
[03:12] <wolter> sebsebseb, yep.
[03:12] <Severian> Luigi, most systems with integrated vide let you turn it off in the BIOS.  The card that plugs in will depend on your motherboard.  PCI, AGP, or PCI-E
[03:12] <wolter> sebsebseb, what do you know about it?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> wolter: Ext4 is good except for 3 issues
[03:13] <sebsebseb> wolter: I haven't clean installed yet, but yeah it seems Ext4 is all good except for three minor issues mentioned in the 9.04 release notes
[03:13] <jp_sf> wolter: ext4 is a fork of ext3 to add more feature, performance wise I'm very happy with it
[03:13] <Luigi> Which graphics cards are most Ubuntu-friendly? Is there a particular brand whose new cards will usually work well here?
[03:13] <coleys_> conky ftw http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotzgf.png
[03:13] <xunil> Luigi: nvidia
[03:13] <vluser> can anyone help me with this? http://nopaste.com/p/azgvmL2Pm
[03:13] <jaek> anyone know of any applet that will show libnotify messages when new files get created in a folder?
[03:13] <cast> Luigi: intel perhaps
[03:14] <vluser> trying to install turboprint
[03:14] <vluser> but it wants that
[03:14] <xunil> Luigi: you can just run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new and your good to go!
[03:14] <vluser> There is no package gtk
[03:14] <casey> how do you change to ext4?
[03:14] <jeffreyf1> Thanks cfedde and genii....
[03:14] <Severian> Luigi, it is driven by the graphics chip, not the brand.  Generally anything that is not too new will work.
[03:14] <onats2> is there anyway i can connect vpn's using gnome's network-manager via command line?
[03:14] <xunil> Luigi: but it should have intel drivers by defaulst as cast suggested
[03:14] <vluser> anybody?
[03:15] <cast> are nvidia-glx-new closed source?
[03:15] <khensthoth> cast:Yes.
[03:15] <jeffreyf1> I think OpenERP is the ticket.
[03:15] <xunil> vluser: did you try installing it?
[03:15] <voss> I dont trust ext4 yet.
[03:15] <vluser> xunil, yes
[03:15] <xunil> cast: i believe so.... but they work
[03:15] <vluser> I looked in apt
[03:15] <Luigi> xunil: Yes, I'm using Intel here, but I'm about two steps from buying a card: I so badly wish I could be one of the cool kids with their Compiz  and their stable computers.
[03:15] <vluser> there is no package gtk
[03:15] <wolter> jp_sf, you have had no problems with it/
[03:15] <wolter> ?
[03:15] <cast> then perhaps, if we are to try to create a free operating system, we shouldn't suggest hardware on the assumption that they will use non-free software
[03:15] <sebsebseb> coleys_: nice screenshot
[03:15] <genii> jeffreyf1: If you just need ticket-only, OTRS2 is an available package in repos
[03:16] <coleys_> Thanks =D
[03:16] <voss> luigi, Nvidia 9 series generally work fine. Im using nvidia 9800 with very few problems. Ive also tried 9400 gt which seems to be okay too
[03:16] <Severian> Luigi, I use Compiz on integrated video.  It does not take a very advanced video card.
[03:16] <vluser> the install instructions say to install libgtk1.2
[03:16] <vluser> so I did,
[03:16] <vluser> but still complains about that
[03:16] <sebsebseb> coleys_: how did you do that?
[03:16] <jp_sf> wolter, I use it on one machine serving files, it works well I never encounter the zero-lenght file problem everybody is talkking about
[03:16] <coleys_> sebsebseb: The Sidebar im assuming?
[03:16] <Luigi> Severian: It rarely works with mine. Can you play videos as well?
[03:16] <sebsebseb> coleys_: yeah
[03:17] <coleys_> coleys_: it's called conky it's in the repositories.
[03:17] <n2diy> If I set up a dual boot win/ubuntu box, is there a way to prevent the win users from infecting the system?
[03:17] <Severian> Luigi, any nvideo from the GeForce 4 Ti4200 and newer is fine.  It does not need an expensive card.
[03:17] <coleys_> lol... I just quoted to me
[03:17] <coleys_> wahah.
[03:17] <coleys_> sebsebseb: conky =P
[03:17] <sebsebseb> coleys_: kubuntu logo  as part of your gnome theme?
[03:17] <genii> jeffreyf1: You can see an OTRS demo here: http://otrs.org/demo/   to see if it's what you have in mind
[03:17] <sebsebseb> !info conky
[03:17] <coleys_> cast: gnome logo in xubuntu =P
[03:17] <Severian> Luigi,  I play videos just fine
[03:17] <wolter> jp_sf, well, I am not willing to take the risk anyway =D
[03:18] <hacim> i've got my jaunty laptop hooked up to an external LCD, the laptop LCD display is not the right size and I can't seem to get it to adjust to the right one
[03:18] <coleys_> Ahhh, irssi is failing =p
[03:18] <wolter> I just fixed my computer from kernel panics like a couple of months ago
[03:18] <coleys_> sebsebseb: gnome logo in xubuntu.
[03:18] <Chaorain> What happened to Ubuntbot?
[03:18] <wolter> it was the damn wireless driver..
[03:18] <sebsebseb> wolter: risk with Ext4?  what risk as long as you got your data backed up, like your meant to do anyway
[03:18] <Severian> Luigi, what chipset is on your motherboard.  And, what CPU?
[03:18] <wolter> Chaorain, ubottu ?
[03:18] <glitsj16> vluser: if you are building something manually, try installing the -dev version(s) of the mentioned package(s)
[03:18] <wolter> !hi | Chaorain
[03:18] <mercutio22> who's having kernel panics?
[03:18] <somatt> m25 that didn't do it
[03:18] <voss> The question isnt whether you use closed source drivers or open source drivers, its whether you use closed source drivers with an open source O/S or stick with a closed source O/S because you cant get your video card working on the open source O/S
[03:18] <Chaorain> yea
[03:18] <jp_sf> wolter: I'm aware of the fsync delay but never experienced it, never had a spinup hard drive but there are not 5000rpm
[03:18] <somatt> tkt I'm trying to get screen and rtorrent to run as my user at startup.  I have tried using crontab -e by adding the line "@reboot /usr/bin/screen /usr/bin/rtorrent" but this had no effect.  Do I need to add myself to the /etc/cron.allow file?  Am I going in the right direction?  Does anyone have any ideas?
[03:18] <jeffreyf1> genii: Thanks
[03:18] <sebsebseb> coleys_: oh you themeed xubuntu,  not even sure how to do that,  haven't used xubuntu that much
[03:18] <Chaorain> !laptop
[03:18] <kornejo> hello
[03:19] <Luigi> Severian: G965, and Core 2 Duo @ 1.86 GHz
[03:19] <coleys_> sebsebseb: Yeah I prefer lightweight, But I also use emerald + compiz soo... =p
[03:19] <Luigi> Both are Intel, of course
[03:19] <kornejo> if i upgrade from 8.10 i will lose my files right?
[03:19] <wolter> how disgusting--a soft ball of ear wax just rolled down my ear...
[03:19] <ieatnoobs> Help... My Ubuntu 8.10 Bluetooth stopped working.
[03:19] <ieatnoobs> wolter: D:
[03:19] <Wavesonics> hello fello ubuntuers :)
[03:19] <voss> wolter thank you for sharing ;-)
[03:19] <khensthoth> komejo:not really. It depends.
[03:19] <sebsebseb> coleys_: ha ha yeah IRSSI is nice and light waight.  and that's avant window manager at the bottom I assume?  apparntlly  Caioro dock is better
[03:19] <coleys_> Wavesonics: Ahoooyy.
[03:19] <Luigi> wolter: Umm, OK then. Welcome to IRC?
[03:20] <kornejo> depends on what?
[03:20] <wolter> voss, whenever you want people, whenever...
[03:20] <sebsebseb> !ot | wolter
[03:20] <coleys_> sebsebseb: Yeah, with glass theme
[03:20] <sebsebseb> wolter: it's not a ears channel :d
[03:20] <somatt> I'm trying to get screen and rtorrent to run as my user at startup.  I used crontab -e by adding the line "@reboot /usr/bin/screen /usr/bin/rtorrent".  As root I've added my username to the /etc/cron.allow.  It still will not start up at boot.
[03:20] <ieatnoobs> Help... My Ubuntu 8.10 Bluetooth stopped working.
[03:20] <khensthoth> komejo: Are you reinstalling or just upgrading through the Update Manager?
[03:20] <Wavesonics> I want to have my user directory 700 so it's private from people CDing to it and poking around, but i still want my public_html accessible by www-data
[03:20] <wolter> sebsebseb, well, a bit of a change don't harm nobody
[03:20] <mercutio22> Should I worry about these gnome-session errors on my daemon.log file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/163928/
[03:20] <Severian> Luigi, Your system should be plenty fast in video and CPU.  Maybe the highest resolutions could be a problem.  I stay at 1280 by 1024 or smaller.  What resolution are you using for playback?
[03:20] <kornejo> i havent doing anything yet but ill try to upgrade from upgrade manager
[03:21] <Wavesonics> but if I make my /home/myUser mhmod 700, then my public_html isn't accessible to www-data
[03:21] <sebsebseb> coleys_: I haven't themed xubuntu before
[03:21] <Wavesonics> *chmod
[03:21] <ieatnoobs> Help... My Ubuntu 8.10 Bluetooth stopped working. What's the problem? What do I do?
[03:21] <Noble> Having problem installing wordpress. Apache seems to be blocking it, getting not found erros. apache2.conf = http://pastebin.com/m5248f103
[03:21] <khensthoth> komejo: If you are just upgrading from the Update Manager, then you shouldn't lose your files.
[03:21] <somatt> I'm trying to get screen and rtorrent to run as my user at startup.  I used crontab -e by adding the line "@reboot /usr/bin/screen /usr/bin/rtorrent".  As root I've added my username to the /etc/cron.allow.  It still will not start up at boot.
[03:21] <sebsebseb> coleys_: now that I seen  Xubuntu can look  quite a lot nicer than the default Xubuntu, well it's something I might try and do, if I knew how to install themes into it
[03:21] <sebsebseb> coleys_: on Gnome at the moment :)
[03:21] <coleys_> sebsebseb: Pretty simple, less gui... but if you know where to put gtk themes and icons and such you'll be good.
[03:21] <xangua1> ieatnoobs: agg stop repeating
[03:21] <glitsj16> somatt: you might need a ";" between both commands i believe
[03:21] <Luigi> Severian: Mine is 1440x900 currently
[03:21] <coleys_> sebsebseb: If you needed any assistance with that, feel free to ask =)
[03:22] <Luigi> I'm using 8.04 btw
[03:22] <somatt> glitsj16, will try and let you know in about 1 minute
[03:22] <sebsebseb> coleys_: sure remind  me where to put themes
[03:22] <n2diy> sebsebseb: try the #xubuntu channel.
[03:22] <Mion> sebsebseb: gnome-look.org, grab the theme you want, extract to ~/.themes, ???, profit!
[03:22] <kornejo> ohh ok i just wannted to know if i would have to create a backup
[03:22] <coleys_> sebsebseb: ~/.themes ... ~/.icons
[03:22] <kornejo> tanku very much
[03:22] <sebsebseb> coleys_: ok
[03:22] <coleys_> sebsebseb: Those are the home folder places to put themes, and icons
[03:22] <wolter> Luigi, how come?
[03:22] <khensthoth> komejo: Well, it's always good to have a backup just in case.
[03:22] <ieatnoobs> xanua: Nobody answered lol
[03:22] <sebsebseb> coleys_: yeah I know about home :)
[03:22] <Huufarted> Need help with a shutdown hanging.  Anybody able to take a look at this pastebin for the results of 'pastebin' and 'lspci -vvnn'?
[03:22] <khensthoth> komejo: /home stores all your Data and configurations.
[03:22] <Huufarted> http://pastebin.com/d2363720d
[03:23] <coleys_> ~/ = /home/user/ btw if you didn't know
[03:23] <kornejo> ye i will created just tyo be sure
[03:23] <Huufarted> oops, for the results of 'dmesg'
[03:23] <Severian> Luigi, I have one of those I use at times.  It does OK, too.  My processor on that one is an AMD, not an Intel.  But, it is about the same speed.  What problems do you have?
[03:23] <kornejo> ohh nice i dint know that
[03:23] <Wavesonics> any 1 sure how to lock down user directories so users can view other users home directory, but peoples public_html will still be accessible to www-data?
[03:23] <PinguPingu> is there a development channel for evolution ?
[03:23] <ieatnoobs> Why is it that whenever I boot ubuntu I have to hold down any key to make the progress bar move?
[03:24] <Mion> PinguPingu: /q alis help
[03:24] <xunil> Luigi: currently im running a 8800 GT from Nvidia.. and it runs perfict
[03:24] <Ingrid> ieatnoobs, bad bios, most likely
[03:24] <PinguPingu> Mion, ?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> coleys: ok thanks
[03:24] <ieatnoobs> Ingrid: How do I fix that?
[03:25] <coleys> Hmm.. I just realized that ubuntu only recognizes 3.80 Gigs of Ram.. When Im supposed to have like 4024 =p
[03:25] <Mion> PinguPingu: alis is a nice little bot here on freenode, that can list and search channels for you
[03:25] <coleys> sebsebseb: Yeah np
[03:25] <Mion> PinguPingu: so, you could to /q alis list #evolution*
[03:25] <Huufarted> coleys, 32 bit ubuntu recognized 3.75.  64 bit recognizes more
[03:25] <coleys> Huufarted: Im using 64 bit though =/
[03:25] <Mion> and get a list of all channels with that as part of the name
[03:26] <Bobbe> hey
[03:26] <xangua1> coleys: google> ubuntu 4 gigas ram
[03:26] <Bobbe> anyone here tried a zte modem on ubuntu?
[03:26] <coleys> xangua1: Okay, thanks.
[03:27] <PinguPingu> Mion, that doesnt seem to help, q :Unknown command
[03:27] <hacim> hrm, my jaunty is really... jumpy
[03:27] <Huufarted> My 8.10 is hanging during shutdown.  Anybody able to give me a hand figuring out why?   Any tips?
[03:29] <Mion> ieatnoobs: tell me that the day you can run it in screen/tmux, and it gets a better scripting api
[03:29] <coleys> hacim: DMA meaning?
[03:29] <Mion> :p
[03:30] <PinguPingu> Mion, that doesnt seem to help either
[03:30] <xunil> hacim: or ATI: "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" then "aticonfig" or for nvidia "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new nvidia-settings" then "sudo nvidia-settings"
[03:30] <Roasted> Does anybody know if I can adjust Banshee to sort the artist name by the filename/folder instead of the ID tag?
[03:30] <ieatnoobs> Mion: Lol. Well. For free Ubuntu/Windows IRC client, it's nifty.
[03:30] <Mion> PinguPingu: /msg then
[03:30] <glitsj16> coleys: any chance of a paste of your conkyrc ? been ages since i looked at conky but your screenshot made me realize i could do with some eye-candy here
[03:30] <coleys> glitsj16: Yeah sure.
[03:30] <hacim> coleys: the drive setting, that you would normally turn on/off with hdparm
[03:30] <coleys> whats ubutu's pastebin?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> !pastebin
[03:32] <coleys> glitsj16: http://paste.ubuntu.com/163933/ enjoy
[03:32] <glitsj16> coleys: cheers man, appreciated :)
[03:32] <somatt> glitsj16, that didn't work
[03:32] <khensthoth> coleys: Does conky use a lot of RAM?
[03:32] <coleys> glitsj16: You might have to change the interfaces, if you dont use wireless, or your wireless interface is named differently... if you need a hand feel free to ask.
[03:32] <coleys> khensthoth: Nope
[03:32] <glitsj16> somatt: quite the experiment to get that @reboot to work it seems
[03:33] <n2diy> If I set up a dual boot win/ubuntu box, is there a way to prevent the win users from infecting the system?
[03:33] <somatt> glitsj16, it is listed in the ubuntu documentation, there's no reason it shouldn't work
[03:33] <somatt> glitsj16, it's quite frustrating at this point
[03:33] <sebsebseb> n2diy: well
[03:33] <khensthoth> coleys: For one like yours, how much RAM is conky using? Thanks.
[03:33] <glitsj16> coleys: yes i'll use it as a framework and fill in those blanks, lord knows i have plenty of those
[03:33] <ieatnoobs> n2diy: If you get an answer, that'd be useful for me too.
[03:33] <sebsebseb> n2diy: they woudn't be able to access Ubuntu's partiton by default anyway
[03:33] <hacim> xunil: looks like this macbook pro has an intel graphics card
[03:33] <sebsebseb> n2diy: you did mean a proper Windows dual boot didn't you?  not  wubi
[03:33]  * somatt opens a tall can and lights up a fatty in order to not punch computer :P
[03:34] <sebsebseb> n2diy: partitions :)  wubi  :(
[03:34] <xangua1> n2diy: install a good antivirus and a lot og secure programs
[03:34] <glitsj16> somatt: yes when i saw you mention the @reboot option i read the man, briefly, was unaware of an option like that
[03:34] <Bobbe> wubi? what's that?
[03:34] <coleys> 0.74 % of my CPU, and 0.11% of MEM
[03:34] <khensthoth> !wubi
[03:34] <sebsebseb> xangua1: heh I know how to run  Windows with anti virus and such not needed, but  I am not doing Windows suppourt here :d
[03:34] <coleys> khensthoth: 0.74 % of my CPU, and 0.11% of MEM
[03:34] <Bobbe> fat partition?
[03:34] <n2diy> sebsebseb: yes, but an mbr virus will effect both partitions.
[03:34] <ieatnoobs> n2diy: Windoze can't read to an ext3 naturally. So you're safe.
[03:34] <khensthoth> coleys: Thanks.
[03:34] <somatt> glitsj16, it has to be run as me though so i can reattach at will upon login
[03:34] <Roasted> Does anybody know if I can adjust Banshee to sort the artist name by the filename/folder instead of the ID tag?
[03:34] <Luig1> Ok, so { sudo aptitude dist-upgrade } will take me from 8.04 to 9.04, right? Is there any way to reverse that in case, uhhh, I decide to?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> n2diy: why not put Windows inside a virtual machine inside Ubuntu? fine for everything except like 3D games
[03:35] <somatt> glitsj16, but i want it to run at bootup incase of power outage etc
[03:35] <Severian> Generally no, Luigi
[03:35] <khensthoth> Luig1: Other than reinstalling, I doubt so.
[03:35] <glitsj16> somatt: a nice old-skool oneliner script in your autostart folder won't cut it ?
[03:35] <n2diy> sebsebseb: that is the suggestion I was looking for, have a link to a howto or something?
[03:35] <ieatnoobs> My Bluetooth died. How do I repair it?
[03:35] <sebsebseb> n2diy: in fact I would rather not suppourt Windows these days, unless people are  dual booting with a better OS, or  running  Windows in a virtual machine, inside a better OS
[03:35] <xunil> hacim: idk what it is for intel... everything i have is nvidia or ati...
[03:35] <somatt> glitsj16, it needs to be done on boot though
[03:35] <ieatnoobs> n2diy: google virtualbox.
[03:36] <xangua1> sebsebseb: i just wanna to remember you that in dual boot because of the windows users the grub can be deleted or something
[03:36] <coleys> glitsj16: Also you might have to use a user script if you want it to run at startup, it tends to load before the panal and overlaps it, so I sleep it for 10 seconds to let the panel load.
[03:36] <hacim> xunil: i dont think it needs special proprietary drivers
[03:36] <somatt> glitsj16, it needs to be done on boot AND be run as me though
[03:36] <sebsebseb> xangua1: the Windows CD would overwrite Grub sure, but otherwise no
[03:36] <n2diy> sebsebseb: roger, tnk
[03:36] <ieatnoobs> xangua1: What?
[03:36] <somatt> glitsj16, can that be done with autostart folder i don't know much about that
[03:37] <xunil> hacim: o yeah... i do have one with intell.. and i didn't have to do anything... that computer is using an old 7.04 distro tho
[03:37] <glitsj16> coleys: thanks for the tips
[03:37] <sebsebseb> xangua1: who is using that computer? and what are  they using it for?
[03:37] <vluser> guys... I have aproblem here
[03:37] <coleys> !question | vluser
[03:37] <sebsebseb> vluser: ok what is it?
[03:37] <vluser> xtpsetup is looking for libgtk1.2.so.0
[03:37] <vluser> the file is there
[03:37] <ieatnoobs> Asking to ask is asking for axing.
[03:37] <vluser> it's a link to another file
[03:38] <vluser> but it staill says no file or dir
[03:38] <ieatnoobs> Do a symbolic link?
[03:38] <somatt> glitsj16, are you talking about rc.local?
[03:38] <vluser> it's already there
[03:38] <xunil> ieatnoobs: nice way of phrasing that :)
[03:38] <ieatnoobs> xunil: Thank you lol
[03:38] <sebsebseb> n2diy: your going to run Windows inside Ubuntu yes?
[03:38] <xunil> ieatnoobs:lol
[03:39] <Roasted> Does an ybody know anything about Banshee whatsoever?
[03:39] <sebsebseb> Roasted: sure
[03:39] <vluser> any ideas?
[03:39] <sebsebseb> Roasted: and I am using right now whilst listening to music :)
[03:39] <glitsj16> somatt: that or just a .desktop file like those in your ~/config/autostart folder
[03:39] <n2diy> sebsebseb: yes, so Ubuntu would be the master OS of the system, right?
[03:39] <sebsebseb> Roasted: and that music submittting to last.fm
[03:39] <xunil> Roasted: i know i  preferred Rhythembox over it
[03:39] <sebsebseb> n2diy: yep
[03:39] <ieatnoobs> What's the best music player, would you guys say? Amarok?
[03:39] <pizzledizzle> what is the difference between /usr/include and /usr/local/include
[03:39] <sebsebseb> ieatnoobs: nope
[03:39] <sebsebseb> ieatnoobs: Banshee
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> !best | ieatnoobs
[03:39] <cast> mplayer!
[03:39] <xunil> ieatnoobs: www.pandora.com :D
[03:39] <zhanx> i prefer rythmbox
[03:40] <Roasted> Amarok used to be good.  Just get Banshee.
[03:40] <ieatnoobs> Banshee? okay.
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> Roasted: i'd agree... rythmbox is ok though
[03:40] <coleys> Is banshee really that good?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> zhanx: I used Rythombox when Banshee sucked, but that's been quite a while now, when Banshee has been great
[03:40] <xunil> I just use pandora radio
[03:40] <n2diy> xunil: pandora rocks, and rolls! :)
[03:40] <xangua1> Roasted: why sucks ¿¿
[03:40] <mkasson> anyone know if there's an easy way to use bonjour (i.e. to access a share on a mac) in ubuntu?
[03:40] <Roasted> Banshee users - Is there any way at all I can control my playlist WITHOUT the ID tags? A LOT of my music has no ID tags and I don't wnat to have to redo the ID tags, however I spetn a lot of time making maticulus re-naming to the individual files.
[03:40] <xunil> n2diy: ya it does!
[03:40] <coleys> Pandora is fail for canadians =(
[03:40] <ieatnoobs> Jesus! Banshee is a 34 MB download!
[03:40] <zhanx> sebsebseb hows it do with large music lib's?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> ieatnoobs: maybe if it's including mono
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> ieatnoobs: unless you're on metered service, or dial up, who cares?
[03:40] <xunil> then what do you suggest coleys?
[03:41] <sebsebseb> zhanx: I got a lot of music here no problems
[03:41] <ieatnoobs> IndyGunFreak: I am on metered service.
[03:41] <sebsebseb> zhanx: only problem I got with banshee was when my home folder filled up
[03:41] <Bobbe> "We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S."
[03:41] <coleys> xunil: Music player daemon, or exaile =p
[03:41] <somatt> glitsj16, i don't understand what that means
[03:41] <Bobbe> Ouch
[03:41] <zhanx> sebsebseb define alot i got over 500 gig
[03:41] <sebsebseb> zhanx: then the database got currupted, but otherwise it's great
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> ieatnoobs: then i would use what came w/ the install if you don't want to pay more.. rythmbox is fine
[03:41] <n2diy> xunil: how do you stop the movie scripts, that screws everything up here?
[03:41] <vluser> goddang it
[03:41] <xunil> coleys: for streaming radio.....
[03:41] <ieatnoobs> Oh, it's getting freepats. Is there a way to get it and tell it to not DL freepats?
[03:41] <Roasted> xangual - Amarok2, from what I understand, locks out all other audio besides Amarok... so if I go to youtube to listen to a video quick, if amarok is running, I hear no audio. Ive tried to find a setting for this and I couldnt. Plus they stripped a lot more settings. So many people are pissed off over it.
[03:41] <sebsebseb> zhanx: ok not that much.  I got like 10GB worth
[03:41] <sebsebseb> zhanx: 5 days or so worth
[03:41] <xunil> coleys: iv tried shoutcast stuff.. but don't really like some of the stuff
[03:41] <somatt> glitsj16, is it a symlink in my autostart folder? and will that make it start at boot not login
[03:42] <zhanx> k i'll stick with rythm just in case
[03:42] <ieatnoobs> Oh, it's getting freepats. Is there a way to get it and tell it to not DL freepats?
[03:42] <sebsebseb> zhanx: nah
[03:42] <coleys> xunil: ohhh lol.. I mean fail as in.. Canadians can't use pandora radio... cause of restrictions =(
[03:42] <sebsebseb> zhanx: Banshee :)
[03:42] <sebsebseb> zhanx: Banshee will work great trust me!
[03:42] <zhanx> d/l it right now to check it out..
[03:42] <mrgksser> How can i verify that i have the 64bit ubuntu installed?
[03:42] <xunil> coleys: oooo lol ok..... that makes more sense
[03:42] <Roasted> sebsebseb - any idea, since you seem to be a heavy banshee user?
[03:42] <ieatnoobs> How do I apt-get install without downloading one of the packages?
[03:42] <glitsj16> somatt: it's not a symlink no, look at it as a script that is autostarted each time you login
[03:42] <coleys> sebsebseb: Is banshee heavy on resources?
[03:42] <sebsebseb> coleys: no
[03:43] <Luig1> I can't upgrade directly from 8.04 to 9.04? It only points me to 8.10...
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> i've not used banshee in a while, it looks pretty slick.
[03:43] <coleys> sebsebseb: Gotta give it a try now =p
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Roasted: id tags you mean in  the mp3's?
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> Luig1: thats correct..
[03:43] <vluser> guys... vluser@vluser-desktop:~$ sudo xtpsetup
[03:43] <vluser> xtpsetup: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or direct
[03:43] <xunil> ieatnoobs: you can probably point to a package on the CD... idk exactally how tho
[03:43] <ieatnoobs> xunil: Is freepats on the 8.10 CD?
[03:43] <Roasted> sebsebseb - yeah. Banshee organizes my music by ID tag and a lot of my music doesnt have ID tags... I just want it to import my music "as is"... the way its already organized in my home folder
[03:43] <sebsebseb> coleys: your on  8.10 or 9.04,  8.04 and people get a rubbish version of Banshee
[03:43] <vluser> vluser@vluser-desktop:~$ ls -al /usr/lib| grep libgtk
[03:43] <vluser> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root       19 2009-05-03 13:08 libgtk-1.2.so.0 -> libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1
[03:43] <vluser> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  1493656 2008-01-05 13:43 libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1
[03:43] <Luig1> IndyGunFreak: does that mean I'll need to upgrade twice tonight?
[03:43] <somatt> glitsj16, well i need it to start when i boot up not when i log in, it should be already on and started when i log in
[03:43] <xunil> ieatnoobs: but then you can probably download on a seperate and use gdebi package installer
[03:43] <coleys> sebsebseb: Yeah 9.04
[03:44] <vluser> how can it not see the library... it's there!
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> Luig1: yes.. might be easier to just clean install 9.04.. cuz i bet that will take a while.
[03:44] <vluser> any ideas?
[03:44] <coleys> glitsj16: khensthoth If you two get conky setup show me your screenies =!
[03:44] <Luig1> IndyGunFreak: What do you mean by clean install?
[03:44] <ieatnoobs> I hate HughesNet. With a fiert passion.
[03:44] <ieatnoobs> fiery*
[03:44] <hotdog> !jabber
[03:44] <xunil> ieatnoobs: idk
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> Luig1: ..? i mean clean install... do a clean install of 9.04
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Roasted: don't know
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> Luig1: don't upgrade..
[03:45] <glitsj16> coleys: deal ... could take a while lol, i'm planning on upgrading to jaunty first
[03:45] <coleys> Clean installs ftw
[03:45] <crdlb> vluser: run ldd on the xtpsetup binary
[03:45] <khensthoth> coleys: I set it up long long ago (when I first started using Ubuntu), and I got bored with it.  Hmm... That would mean fixing my menus and everything all over, right?
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> Luig1: it would be like having a totally new OS, yes.
[03:45] <sebsebseb> coleys: yep  espeasilly when a few issues from 9.04 alpha6 still,  still not been bothered to do it yet though for various reasons.
[03:46] <khensthoth> Luig1: Do you have a separate partitions for / and /home?
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> zhanx: well, not everything on the disk.. just your Linux install, you don't have to mess w/ Windows stuff.
[03:46] <coleys> glitsj16: Okay, well ill be in this channel so when you see me pokee me =p
[03:46] <vluser> crdlb, http://nopaste.com/p/aP3gVfCMt
[03:46] <coleys> glitsj16: And try fresh install =D
[03:46] <Luig1> khensthoth: If that is not a default feature for 8.04, then no...
[03:46] <xunil> IndyGunFreak: if you make a seperate partition for your /home then you can tell the next install to use that partition and it saves all your preferences and what nto... you just need to format the / partition and bam... "clean" install
[03:46] <zhanx> IndyGunFreak yea, sorry didnt clearify that far and lugi1 just back up your home
[03:46] <glitsj16> coleys: sure thing ... on both subjects :)
[03:46] <sebsebseb> coleys:   does this computer go Ext4 or not this week (in this time soon, next week for most of you)  when I get rid of this and put 9.04 final on hummmm.  I am looking forward to Ext4
[03:46] <crdlb> vluser: sudo ldconfig
[03:47] <khensthoth> Luig1: In that case, I'd suggest you backup all your files in your /home, download Ubuntu 9.04 CD, Install over it, and put all your /home files back.
[03:47] <sebsebseb> coleys: time zone in my brackets
[03:47] <ieatnoobs> Is ext4 niftier than ext3?
[03:47] <ieatnoobs> What's the difference?
[03:47] <glitsj16> although the live cd worked without a hitch, probably the safer bet indeed
[03:47] <sebsebseb> ieatnoobs: 3 issues in the release notes, which won't effect a clean install :)
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> xunil: i've never put home on a separate partition.. i just have a separate huge partition, thats where i put all my movies, music, etc, etc.. then my actual "linux partition".. is 30gigs.. XP is 30gigs, and the other partition is like 400.. and both XP and Ubuntu can access the media on that partition
[03:47] <sebsebseb> ieatnoobs: disk checking is much quicker, and  it's meant to be better with bigger files
[03:47] <ieatnoobs> sebsebseb: ?
[03:47] <ieatnoobs> sebsebseb: Oh.
[03:47] <Luig1> khensthoth: Including preferences files?
[03:48] <Luig1> khensthoth: What are the advantages of that over upgrading twice?
[03:48] <swordead> hi
[03:48] <vluser> crdlb, same error
[03:48] <sebsebseb> ieatnoobs: the 9.04 release notes has 3 Ext4 issues that can be solved and worked around etc.  and they woudn't apply to a clean install
[03:48] <vluser> can't find the lib
[03:48] <khensthoth> Luigi: By preferences file you mean all those .config and .whatever? If so then yes.
[03:48] <xunil> IndyGunFreak: then just back up your entire /home folder to a DVD or something.. then reload after install.... you probably will want to keep the same username however
[03:48] <swordead> what error?
[03:48] <khensthoth> Luig1: Well, save time and download bandwitdh.
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> xunil: most of my configurations on software, is pretty easy.. so i just have a "configuration file".. where i record any configuration changes i make to software.. it takes me about 10min to setup all the software i want/
[03:49] <syntax\> how can i apply the changes if i already changed the icons under applications (games internet etc), i can't seem to make it take its effect
[03:49] <eross> i have music stored on my fileserver I want to stream somehow to my play machine, without setting up CIFS.. is there a way to do that?
[03:49] <lmartin92> where can I get x86_64-pc-elf-objdump
[03:49]  * cast wonders if ext4 is the most boring new file system ever released
[03:49] <swordead> who is hacker?
[03:49] <sebsebseb> cast: why?
[03:49] <eross> ext4 can handle up to the terrabytes right?
[03:49] <swordead> how may people are here?
[03:49] <sebsebseb> swordead: everyone that programs opensource/freesoftware!  hack the code for a opensource/freesoftware program, as in edit the code
[03:49] <zhanx> ext3 can handle my tb fine right now
[03:50] <sebsebseb> eross: I assume so
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> swordead: well, the userlist says 1455
[03:50] <swordead> sure
[03:50] <brodymcd>  hi all - could someone please help me? I have a dell inspiron laptop with a broadcom wireless card. wireless WAS fine - since my upgrade to 9.04, wireless is SUPER buggy... even tried live cd of 8.10, it's buggy... don't know what to do
[03:50] <swordead> woo tht a lot of peobl
[03:50] <ieatnoobs> How do I get the list of parameters for a command?
[03:50] <swordead> what is nmap?
[03:50] <cast> eross: well ext3 so i should hope so.
[03:50] <smithsr93> Hello,
[03:50] <vluser> somebody help!
[03:50] <smithsr93> Is anyone having install issues with ASRock motherboard with 9.04 X64?  AMD X4 9950 system keeps locking  up on install, also tried 32 bit version.
[03:50] <sebsebseb> swordead: media have it wrong,  they aren't called hackers the bad guys, they are called crackers or blackhats,   and a serurity reasherser is a white hat
[03:50] <cast> ext3 can*
[03:50] <swordead> hello
[03:50] <khensthoth> ieatnoobs: Isn't it --help?
[03:50] <n2diy> ieatnoobs: man command name
[03:51] <swordead> that right
[03:51] <Luigi> would { cc -arv /home/luigi /media/disk } copy everything in my home directory directly to the disk? (I'm asking if I wrote that command right)
[03:51] <mercutio22> Gnome os taking about 46 seconds to login. Isn't that too much, what can I do to find out whats taking so long to load?
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> smithsr93: well what are your install issues?
[03:51] <xunil> man woman
[03:51] <zhanx> swordead, i hack hardware all the time cause i dont like what it does
[03:51] <swordead> somebody know nmap?
[03:51] <xunil> it doesnt work
[03:51] <ieatnoobs> Go it
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> mercutio22: on 9.04?
[03:51] <ieatnoobs> got it*
[03:51] <xangua1> mercutio22: from the login screen to gnome ¿¿
[03:51] <xunil> i wish i knew more nmap... its a sweat program
[03:51] <mercutio22> IndyGunFreak> yeah.
[03:51] <khensthoth> Luigi: You mean cp?
[03:51] <smithsr93> clean install locks up during install of files
[03:52] <Luigi> khensthoth: yeah cp
[03:52] <mercutio22> xangua1> something is wrong right?
[03:52] <smithsr93> tried 32 and 64 bit versions EXT3 and EXT4 no go
[03:52] <swordead> you can scane the port and know the operating sistem
[03:52] <xangua1> jum......
[03:52] <xunil> smithsr93: check the cd's intergerty or try re-downloading the iso... iv ran ito that isses a few times
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> smithsr93: try the alternate install CD... the machines i've had that choke on the live CD, always work w/ the alt. install
[03:52] <marksman> why does it seem specific flash sites shoot my processer usage to 100%?  Sites like speedtest.net, before a test is even run
[03:52] <ieatnoobs> Sadly, I can't afford any ethical hacker certification or anything so there's no way for me to learn.
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> smithsr93: also.. burn the ISO's SLOW...
[03:52] <khensthoth> Luigi: Then yup, you are probably right. Someone else can confirm though.
[03:52] <tkt> I don't even dl the live cd's anymore
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> !alternate | smithsr93
[03:52] <tkt> they always mess up on me
[03:52] <smithsr93> I will try alt install
[03:53] <swordead> there is certifications of hackers?
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> smithsr93: its pretty easy
[03:53] <lmartin92> nvm
[03:53] <jp_sf> swordead: join #nmap
[03:53] <swordead> there are centifications of hackers?
[03:53] <xunil> sworded: CEH Certefied Ethecal Hacker
[03:53] <smithsr93> Thanks, going through withdrawal symptoms with out ubuntu
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:53] <Windoh> do the effects shown in settings > desktop > effects come from compiz and kwin?  a lot of the effects shown in ccsm seem to be in the effects list in settings too
[03:53] <sebsebseb> smithsr93: did you use Ext4?
[03:53] <xunil> lol, know how that goes
[03:53] <Luigi> khensthoth: :D I remember that command vividly. My installation broke once and I had to do that from LiveCD onto a freshly purchased portable hard disk...
[03:54] <swordead> somebody kno?w nessus
[03:54] <syntax\> anyone? how can i apply the changes if i already changed the icons under applications (games internet etc), i can't seem to make it take its effect
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> certified ethical hacker.. if that doesn't sound like an oxymoron
[03:54] <smithsr93> yes, crashed on install Fedora Core 10 and Mandriva 2009 install ok
[03:54] <tkt> IndyGunFreak, haha forsure
[03:54] <xunil> Windoh: ya, you can do a synaptic search and get the full config program for it
[03:54] <sebsebseb> smithsr93: you did 9.04 with Ext4?
[03:54] <jp_sf> swordead: are you listing all http://sectools.org/ ?
[03:54] <khensthoth> Luigi: That's good. You can confirm by typing cp --help and see the list of parameters too.
[03:54] <swordead> yes
[03:54] <cast> sebsebseb: it's just an upgrade of ext3, which was rather boring. using XFS mostly myself, the addition of extents doesn't make me go "omg WOW". ZFS came out before ext4, btrfs will come out after, now those are exciting :)
[03:55] <eseven73> can someone please look at my ProFTPd config and tell me why I can connect using userftp account but not anonymous? http://paste.ubuntu.com/163915
[03:55] <swordead> well, bye thank for all
[03:55] <jp_sf> swordead: might take a while here is a ubuntu forum you have a question about it ?
[03:55] <swordead> no bye
[03:55] <tuxwulf> When I try to install the new Ubuntu, nothing happens. Of the startup menu, after the language, the only choice that does anything is Test Memory. What can I do to get Ubuntu on my laptop?
[03:55] <sebsebseb> cast: which is the best file system?  to anyone:  and no I don't want !best   and  bostbot can't answer this question anyway
[03:55] <Windoh> i had the "explode" effect working.  i uninstalled emerald and now it is not working anymore.  i reinstalled emerald but when i type "emerald --replace" the terminal never returns to the shell prompt and the theme never changes.
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> tuxwulf: try reburning the iso.. SLOW...
[03:56] <ieatnoobs> !best
[03:56] <sebsebseb> ieatnoobs: I said no need for that
[03:56] <brywilharris> ext4
[03:56] <coleys> Strangeeeee... My computer doesn't let me use all my RAM. It recognizes there is 4gigs via 'sudo lshw -C memory' but it only is allowing me 3.8 gigs =/
[03:56] <ieatnoobs> sebsebseb: :P
[03:56] <tuxwulf> IndyGunFreak: Owkay... Already did thta a few times but I suppose I can try again.
[03:56] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: ext3 is most common and usually works best.  I think ext4 may be better
[03:56] <cast> sebsebseb: the one that suits your needs best.
[03:56] <xangua1> coleys: google> ubuntu 4 gigas ram
[03:56] <sebsebseb> cast: yeah I heard this  XFS is meant to be good, and that   btrfs is like Ext4 version two
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> tuxwulf: wel if you've tried that several times, then thats unlikelyu the issue.
[03:56] <n2diy> tuxwulf: might be a bad CD burn, do you end up with an rmfs prompt, or something like that?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> cast: right, but how would I know which one that is?  and I just do pretty standard computer usage at the moment
[03:56] <hacim> hrm, jaunty has been nothing but trouble for me :(
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> tuxwulf: i'd try the alternate install..
[03:57] <vluser> somebody help me
[03:57] <mercutio22> IndyGunFreak> it seems alsa is complaining of a lack of something called a PCM named pulse. I removed pulseaudio - I dont wannit. Might that be it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/163939/.
[03:57] <sebsebseb> cast: plus some geek stuff :d
[03:57] <ahhhh> ok so heres a retarded question, how do i delete other partions and combine them so that theres only one partition
[03:57] <vluser> th8is ting can't find a library
[03:57] <vluser> and I know it's there
[03:57] <ieatnoobs> Man. Ubuntu really tries to force freepats down my throat.
[03:57] <coleys> xangua1: That's What I did, didn't really find results though =/
[03:57] <sebsebseb> cast: ,but that would still be standard computer usage
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> mercutio22: quite possible..
[03:57] <mercutio22> and that might be preventing smooth gnome login
[03:57] <khensthoth> ahhhh: Use Gparted
[03:57] <cast> sebsebseb: you'd look up benchmarks, read opinions of experts,
[03:57] <tuxwulf> n2diy: Nope. The menu appears and is .. always there. It stays there...
[03:57] <sebsebseb> cast: Ext4 I guess then
[03:57] <mercutio22> IndyGunFreak> So alsa depends on pulseaudio now?
[03:58] <hacim> why doesn't my keyboard work when I boot the installer?
[03:58] <mercutio22> that would suck
[03:58] <n2diy> tuxwulf: which menu? can you run memtest86?
[03:58] <coleys> !fr | jean-claude
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> mercutio22: that i don't know.. i don't think so.. but pluse is way better now than it was.. even i use it.
[03:58] <Dracofodder> is there a place I can search for programs not in the main install repositories?  Want to install blender 3d, but don't see it in the application->add/remove lists.  I can compile, but would rather just install a binary if possible.
[03:58] <ieatnoobs> What font does Vista use?
[03:58] <Severian> Dracofodder, google
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> !info blender
[03:58] <nom4d> knnopix std anybody?
[03:59] <hacim> awesome, i rebooted my jaunty install and now grub doesn't work
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !windows |  ieatnoobs
[03:59] <cast> sebsebseb: presumably you're just ignoring my advice, but that's ok.
[03:59] <sebsebseb> cast: well
[03:59] <mercutio22> IndyGunFreak> I was having kernel panics triggered by pulseaudio. I had to remove it. Its bad piece of software. It breaks audio for three ubuntu generations
[03:59] <sebsebseb> cast: I don't know enough about file systems
[03:59] <xangua1> Dracofodder: where it says SHOW change it to All aviabke
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> Dracofodder: you must be missing some repositories or something, because blender is in my repositories
[03:59] <mercutio22> I am sick of pulseaudio
[03:59] <cast> sebsebseb: wikipedia, is neat. so is google.
[03:59] <tkt> Dracofodder, Mine too
[03:59] <Dracofodder> tried that, didn't show it.   will try again..
[03:59] <sebsebseb> cast: and   benchmarking a  home computer from  March 2007 now, seems a little  silly
[03:59] <cast> sebsebseb: why?
[03:59] <Severian> mercutio22, I use pulseaudio all the time and really like it.  It hangs sometimes, but less often than it used to.
[04:00] <cast> sebsebseb: has ext3 and reiserfs and xfs changed a lot since then?
[04:00] <cast> sebsebseb: have we moved from spinning disks to SSD?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> cast: nope
[04:00] <hacim> when I boot the install CD, what other logins are there, besides the ubuntu one?
[04:00] <mercutio22> Severian> it should never hang, that crappy crap.
[04:00] <Wavesonics> anyone interested in telling me what they think of this mini-article i jsut wrote about Ubuntu privacy? http://darkrockstudios.com/public/dotplan.php
[04:00] <Windoh> when i run "emerald" from the command line, should something appear on the gui?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> cast: you think I should benchmark my home computer?  what would you use for that?
[04:00] <lozada-sama> back again guys xD
[04:00] <hacim> new and improved
[04:00] <nom4d> Alguém instalou o aoss?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> !es
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> Dracofodder: did you find it?
[04:00] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: I would use sar
[04:00] <hacim> !pt
[04:00] <usser> sebsebseb, phoronix
[04:01] <sebsebseb> ok both of those are Live CD's I assume
[04:01] <Dracofodder> IndyGunFreak: dang,  thanks... its there now..  I must have done something way wrong earlier this evening
[04:01] <cast> sebsebseb: well, it is the thing that will give you results most important to you.
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> Dracofodder: lol, it happens
[04:01] <sebsebseb> I thought people tend to benchmark a computer when it is rather new, and then again later on
[04:02] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: not at all benchmark are always important for some critical applications hardware and so
[04:02] <cast> sebsebseb: uh...what?
[04:02] <lozada-sama> does someone know how a software to convert mp3 to mp4 ??
[04:02] <cast> lozada-sama: what is mp4
[04:02] <tkt> lozada-sama, isnt mp4 video?
[04:02] <lozada-sama> the mac format of the music files
[04:02] <sebsebseb> cast: bechmark performance testing over time
[04:02] <sebsebseb> cast: test again to see if hardware has got worse etc yeah?
[04:02] <tkt> lozada-sama, i think your thining m4a
[04:02] <lozada-sama> oh sorry xD
[04:03] <usser> lozada-sama, or aac
[04:03] <sebsebseb> cast: did bechmarking in a networking class, that was it
[04:03] <optimarcusprime> Hey all, I just tried to get Pretty Emacs installed (according to http://peadrop.com/blog/2007/01/06/pretty-emacs/), and everything went smoothly until I tried to load emacs and I get this message: "No fonts match `Monospace-12'" Any idea how to remedy this?
[04:03] <sebsebseb> cast: wait  we learnt about it, but never did it properly if I remember correctly
[04:03] <cast> sebsebseb: for normal HW, unless it's defective why would it get any slower? [notable exception: SSD]
[04:03] <eseven73> optimarcusprime, emacs is an OS really, you're better off with VI/VIM
[04:03] <Severian> Wavesonics, not very informative. You should spell check it.  It has several opinions.  I say it is not informative, because you don't explain why you say these things must be done.
[04:04] <tkt> lozada-sama, i not sure there is an app in the repos but a google search might fond something
[04:04] <user__> user
[04:04] <user__> buidinh
[04:04] <sebsebseb> jp_sf  usser  cast    ok well sure  I can try those programs,  I like trying stuff I haven't used before anyway
[04:04] <hacim> arg, I can't boot!
[04:04] <lozada-sama> ive been doing it for hours i came to the irs cause i reached a dead end
[04:04] <hacim> i just get "GRUB"
[04:04] <optimarcusprime> ...
[04:04] <xangua1> lozada-sama: jus install 'ubuntu restricted extras' if you are using Gnome
[04:04] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: with sar I like to use ksar for some graphical output
[04:05] <tkt> lozada-sama, oh, sorry i wasn't much help =/
[04:05] <lozada-sama> hi xangua1
[04:05] <lozada-sama> already did
[04:05] <eseven73> can someone please look at my ProFTPd config and tell me why I can connect using userftp account but not anonymous? http://paste.ubuntu.com/163915
[04:05] <xangua1> jum...and what video player are you using lozada-sama ¿
[04:05] <sebsebseb> jp_sf: ok thanks
[04:06] <lozada-sama> oh sorry i misspelled later it was how to convert mp3 to m4a
[04:06] <ieatnoobs> Can I get cleartype in Ubuntu?
[04:06] <Roasted> So, I just exited out of Banshee after doing 2 hours of arranging my music library the way I wanted and went back in... turns out Banshee didn't save any of my settings despite m hitting save after every single change I made. Can anybody tell me why banshee is so popular if it does stuff like this?
[04:06] <cbkid> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0 (r8169): transmit timed out
[04:06] <tuxwulf> n2diy: Pardon me, I was called away. The memtest is the only menu choice that changes the screen. Install and try Ubuntu choices, I do see the CD's LED light and blink, which stops after about a minute, but never does anything
[04:06] <tkt> lozada-sama, i have never used it but i think ffmpeg is what your looking for
[04:06] <john> hello
[04:06] <sebsebseb> cast: are file systems really that important for home computing?   I mean pretty much any Linux file system  that is an option for Ubuntu would do the trick, for most home users, woudn't it?
[04:07] <tkt> john, hello
[04:07] <lozada-sama> i downloaded that to put amarok to play mp3
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Why is Ext3 the default for most distros?
[04:07] <n2diy> tuxwulf: sounds like a bad CD burn, I have a ton of memtest86 disks here, due to bad burns.
[04:07] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: most common
[04:07] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: because it is
[04:07] <cast> sebsebseb: guess it depends how important your files are.
[04:07] <sebsebseb> jp_sf: sure, but why?
[04:07] <desmond> sebsebseb: its most supported
[04:08] <cbkid> hello ervryone is somebody use the r8169?
[04:08] <Severian> sebastien, I think they are important.  Any are usable in a pinch.  It depends on what is important to you.  I usually use JFS or XFS.  I never use ext3 or ext4
[04:08] <tuxwulf> n2diy: Ok, trying alternate and slow burn
[04:08] <n2diy> tuxwulf: GL
[04:08] <sebsebseb> Severian: why JFS or  XFS?
[04:08] <cast> i get annoyed with slow rm -fr operations personally
[04:08] <aspoor> thats what i'm sayin
[04:08] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: because it works ok, stable have recovery is default on Debian XFS is better for bigger files ...
[04:09] <tuxwulf> n2diy: What's GL?
[04:09] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: ext3 is ext2 with journaling that's a good reason too
[04:09] <n2diy> tuxwulf: GL, is good luck! :)
[04:09] <sebsebseb> jp_sf: yeah and Ext4 is  Ext3 with some add ons?
[04:10] <Roasted> So, I just exited out of Banshee after doing 2 hours of arranging my music library the way I wanted and went back in... turns out Banshee didn't save any of my settings despite m hitting save after every single change I made. Can anybody tell me why banshee is so popular if it does stuff like this?
[04:10] <tuxwulf> n2diy: Ah! Thanks! Also for the replies!
[04:10] <Severian> There is not a quick answer.  I have read and studied the technical details of all the major filesystems.  JFS and XFS seem the best designed.  I was rooting for Reiser4, which was really promising, but it seems to have fallen apart.  The Btrfs is promising and I expect to be using it soon.
[04:10] <n2diy> tuxwulf: GL
[04:10] <sebsebseb> Roasted: join #ubuntu-bots and ask:    what is the best music player
[04:10] <Huufarted> Anybody know why 'shutdown now' immediately reboots my PC into the recovery menu instead of just shutting down like it did previously?
[04:11] <Daewoo> exit
[04:11] <eseven73> Reiser4 would have been nice if the maker of it didn't go to prison
[04:11] <sebsebseb> Roasted: then you can get an idea for how popular Banshee really is with Ubuntu users
[04:11] <pr0nstradamus> the maker of Reiser went to prison?
[04:11] <Severian> sebsebseb, that last post was for you.  I did not put your name on it.
[04:11] <pr0nstradamus> lol.
[04:11] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: somehow yes a lot of articles are out there now ince last novemeber on ext3
[04:11] <n2diy> Huufarted: shutdown -h now?
[04:11] <Roasted> sebsebseb - why is banshee being a beeyotch to control though? I just want it to look at my music as is - like amarok did................
[04:11] <sebsebseb> eseven73: yeah I  heard good things about reiser4 from someone as well, but I would not use murderfs for that very reason
[04:11] <Roasted> iI hate this ID tag sorting BS
[04:12] <Roasted> 2 hours of creating and savings tags to have banshee not save them? LOL?
[04:12] <Huufarted> n2diy, unless an alias magically changed, I've always used 'shutdown now' and now it sends me to the recovery menu but doesn't actually shut my PC off.  It's like it's defaulting to the -r argument
[04:12] <disappearedng> hey my sound crashed anyway to restore sound w/o restarting my ubuntu
[04:12] <tkt> disappearedng, alsa?
[04:12] <BoyGeorge42> does anyone know how to manage hard drive partions in Ubuntu
[04:12] <Severian> eseven73, the problem is not that he went to prison.  It is that he is a murderer.
[04:12] <BoyGeorge42>  ?
[04:12] <eseven73> reiser4 creator murdered his ex wife http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser
[04:12] <disappearedng> tkt I think so
[04:13] <tkt> disappearedng, try running alsaconf as root, thats what i do and im on debian so it should work
[04:13] <n2diy> Huufarted: I've never run shutdown without a switch, so I don't know?
[04:13] <eseven73> Severian, I know that what I was refering to
[04:13] <Severian> BoyGeorge42, Your question is too general.  What to you mean manage?
[04:13] <jp_sf> eseven73: yeah he was chroot to jail
[04:13] <Huufarted> n2diy, thanks
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Severian: it may be a silly reason to choose a file system really for a clean install, but  as I was testing  9.04,   Ext4 was the talk and all that.   so  now I want to get rid of this   install I was testing with, whic has some minor issues left from Alpha6, and  put 9.04 final on and  do Ext4
[04:13] <disappearedng> tkt command not found
[04:13] <ieatnoobs> FFFUUU
[04:13] <ieatnoobs> How do I find a pid/
[04:13] <d41> i just upgraded to kubuntu 9.04, and it updated amarok to amarok 2... but now my system sound level does not affect amarok's sound level... how can i fix this, it's annoying to open up amarok everytime i want to change the volume... thanks...
[04:13] <lstarnes> IndyGunFreak: pgrep name-of-process
[04:13] <tkt> disappearedng, try installing it maybe, sudo apt-get install alsaconf
[04:14] <lstarnes> IndyGunFreak: oops, ignore that
[04:14] <xangua1> d41: do you use KDE ¿¿
[04:14] <disappearedng> how do I know if I am alsa in the first place
[04:14] <eseven73> pidof firefox for example will tell you pid #
[04:14] <ericdb> My laptop has trouble if I suspend while my home NTFS share is mounted, then wake up somewhere else.  How can I umount it automatically whenever I suspend?  Or is there a better solution?
[04:14] <d41> xangua1: yes i use kde
[04:14] <tkt> disappearedng, look in your sound settings.
[04:14] <eseven73> can someone please look at my ProFTPd config and tell me why I can connect using userftp account but not anonymous? http://paste.ubuntu.com/163915
[04:14] <BoyGeorge42> anyone ?
[04:15] <khensthoth> BoyGeorge42: What do you want to do exactly to your partitions?
[04:15] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: don't worry a lot of good things are happening: tux3, btrfs, hammer, and I'm not talking of zfs in user space
[04:15] <Severian> sebsebseb, I try out filesystems.  There is nothing silly about your trying ext4.  Put it on a system, and use it for a while.  But, don't trust it with anything you only have one copy of.  It is too easy to corrupt.
[04:15] <tkt> BoyGeorge42, try gparted
[04:15] <BoyGeorge42> well i wanted to clean install this ubuntu and basically get rid of the vista stuff
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Severian: why is it so easy to corrupt?
[04:16] <xangua1> d41: tell amarok to use xine
[04:16] <khensthoth> BoyGeorge42: Take tkt's advice. Install Gparted and manage them.
[04:16] <sebsebseb> jp_sf: tux3 and hammer not talked of those,  and  zfs  not for end users why?
[04:16] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: it commits changes to the disk less frequently to improve performance
[04:16] <sebsebseb> jp_sf: talked of those?  I meant heard of those
[04:16] <BoyGeorge42> thanks iĺl look  for it right meow
[04:16] <khensthoth> BoyGeorge42: Sometimes you can't delete mounted partitions. In that case, boot into a LiveCD of Ubuntu or PartedMagic, and do it from there.
[04:17] <jp_sf> sebsebseb: no I didn't say zfs is not for end user there is a license problem, but nevermind I'm not a big fan of zfs
[04:17] <tkt> BoyGeorge42, gparted also has a live cd
[04:17] <BoyGeorge42> ok good to go, tanks
[04:17] <sebsebseb> lstarnes:  well it seems the powercut or whatever  and dataloss issue, got fixed, which is the main thing for me, since I like to just turn my computer off on the power button untill it goes off :d
[04:17] <BoyGeorge42> thanks*
[04:17] <FloridaGuy> what kind of educational things does edubuntu have...im trying to find some software that will let me look up medical things easyer then the internet
[04:18] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: Edubuntu is for  young children and their schools really
[04:18] <Severian> sebsebseb, google for that to find details.  There are multiple failure modes, which may get patched over time.  One has to do with writes that are cached at the time of a power failure.  The filesystem comes back up corrupt.  Loosing writes is one thing.  Corrupting the filesystem is much worse.
[04:18] <FloridaGuy> sebsebseb, ok thanks
[04:18] <valde> ola
[04:19] <d41> xangua1: how do i tell amarok to use xine? i don't see anything in the configure amarok window
[04:19] <`Ned> hello, I'm on ubuntu 9.04 and I have a cd-rw/dvd-rom drive. ever since I upgraded from 8.10, I haven't been able to use the dvd-drive because it won't mount
[04:19] <tkt> d41, shoud me in the engine tab of amarok config
[04:19] <sebsebseb> Severian: well if it won't let me boot into it loads
[04:19] <sebsebseb> Severian: I can always get rid of Ext4 and do something else
[04:19] <xangua1> d41: in the kde panel contro, i don't realy know, i am a gnome user
[04:20] <sebsebseb> Severian: it's time for me to move on from Ext3
[04:20] <RedSocrates> `Ned: How are you attempting to mount the drive?
[04:20] <tkt> Is ext3 obsolete?
[04:20] <eseven73> no
[04:20] <eseven73> it's not
[04:20] <RedSocrates> tkt: Certainly not
[04:20] <jp_sf> tkt: no
[04:20] <tkt> Ok =D
[04:20] <`Ned> RedSocrates, I click on 'mount volume'
[04:20] <PhotoJim> tkt:  ext2 isn't obsolete yet.
[04:20] <sebsebseb> Severian: Ext3 is slow  disk checking,  I heard Ext4 has much faster disk checking,  and  every now and again my Ext3 partitions have needed to be fixed
[04:20] <RedSocrates> `Ned: And what happens?
[04:20] <tkt> PhotoJim, haha ok
[04:21] <eseven73> you can tweak that disk checking for ext3
[04:21] <eseven73> it's on the forums
[04:21] <javb> Hi, i have a VirtualBox Windows XP running on my ubuntu.. trying to access my Ubuntu file system with the net use command, sharing the /home/ folder.. it says not route to network... i have internet though, any help?
[04:21] <d41> xangua1: all i see is general, collection, internet services, playback and onscreen display
[04:21] <Severian> sebsebseb, the failure modes of ext4 are not common.  For testing, it is fine.  I would just be careful about keeping any data just there.  That's all.
[04:21] <`Ned> RedSocrates, then it says 'unable to mount volume. can't mount file'
[04:21] <sebsebseb> Severian: yeah I already knew there were possible dataloss issues, so  i'll just have stuff  somewhere else to
[04:22] <ieatnoobs> http://i44.tinypic.com/10wnsxc.png Look at the address bar and search bar. What's the font doing? Why is it all bulky?
[04:22] <Severian> javb, You may not have networking setup right on the guest machine.
[04:22] <javb> Severian, i have internet.
[04:22] <javb> In the virtual machine
[04:22] <Severian> javb, what version of Virtualbox?
[04:22] <javb> Severian 2.1.4
[04:23] <sebsebseb> tkt: Ext3 is fine for most  Linux users,  just  us  people that have been using  Linux for years,  want to try different file systems and such
[04:23] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Have you tried to mount it from commandline?
[04:23] <Severian> And, on the setup page for the guest machine, look at networking.  What type did you setup?
[04:23] <tkt> sebsebseb, what is the advantage of ext4, and isn't it still under development?
[04:23] <Severian> javb, And, on the setup page for the guest machine, look at networking.  What type did you setup?
[04:23] <sebsebseb> tkt: faster  disk checking,  better with bigger files, and I think that's about it really
[04:24] <tkt> sebsebseb, i see, thank you
[04:24] <`Ned> RedSocrates, yes, someone else here tried to help me with that and I tried to mount from command line and it didn't work
[04:24] <sebsebseb> tkt: plus someone just said  faster disk checking can be done with Ext3 as well
[04:24] <eseven73> it can be tweaked yep
[04:24] <M25> when switching to another user without logging out (using the user-switch pannel applet) compiz is disabled for the second user, even if they have compiz enabled when loggin in by themselves.  Is this supposed to happen or is it just me?
[04:24] <Severian> javb, that is, what is in the field labelled   Attached to
[04:25] <tkt> sebsebseb, i deal with files 5gb and larger on a regular basis.  Would i advantage by using ext4?
[04:25] <d41> so how can i tell amarok to use xine?
[04:25] <javb> Severian, Host interface
[04:25] <zhurai> O_o weird... question: how do you make the NTFS volume stop automounting? (apparently it automounts now, and I dont' want it to........)       I checked fstab, and it's not on there
[04:25] <sebsebseb> so realy it's best to recommend  people that are pretty new to Ubuntu a year or less, that they just use Ext3?
[04:25] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Hm.. Unfortunately I don't use GNOME, so I don't know exactly what to do there.  I don't want to make you try the commandline all over again...
[04:25] <hacim> how can I trash a partition in the installer?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> uh  GNU/Linux as a whole not just Ubuntu, above
[04:26] <Severian> javb, that is what it should be.  So, can you ping the machine with the samba share?
[04:26] <`Ned> RedSocrates, I forgot the exact command I used....I only recall the part about 'cdrom0' or something like that
[04:26] <khensthoth> hacim: Which step of the installer are you at right now?
[04:26] <Severian> sebsebseb, I always recommend JFS as the default choice.
[04:26] <javb> Severian... samba share? THe folder in the host machine has to be SHARED besides adding it to the shared label in VB ?
[04:26] <sebsebseb> Severian: why?
[04:26] <RedSocrates> `Ned: How many cd drives do you have?
[04:27] <sebsebseb> tkt: yes and no
[04:27] <r3c0n> hi guys. im trying to install nx free server on 9.04.. i was able to find a repo, but cant seem to find it's gpg and that's causing me to be a little concerned about security. could someone advice?
[04:27] <tkt> sebsebseb, lol, i will look into id =D
[04:27] <`Ned> RedSocrates, I downgraded to 8.10 and I got it to work again, then I upgraded to 9.04 again and it's not working again
[04:27] <`Ned> RedSocrates, just one
[04:27] <sebsebseb> tkt:  Ext4  is not 100% stable yet, there are 3 issues mentioend in the release notes etc
[04:27] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Can you put your /etc/fstab file in a pastebin for me to look at?
[04:27] <sebsebseb> tkt: well the Grub issue is probably really Grub's fault
[04:27] <sebsebseb> tkt: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
[04:27] <tkt> sebsebseb,  so yes, but i should wait for a better release
[04:28] <ieatnoobs> Is there a firefox 3 default theme for Ubuntu?
[04:28] <sebsebseb> tkt: better release uhmmmmm
[04:28] <Severian> sebsebseb, I told you before that I studied the filesystems.  ext3 is basically a hack.  JFS and XFS are well thought out filesystems.
[04:28] <`Ned> RedSocrates, ok, but I forgot how to do that...do I just type /etc/fstab in the terminal?
[04:28] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Also, can you confirm that cdrom0 shows up under /dev?  (Just do "ls /dev/cdrom0".)  I guess I'm gonna give you at least one command line command :)
[04:28] <sebsebseb> Severian: and  Ext4 is just Ext3 with some changes?
[04:28] <yuka_> after upgrading i can't see wireless networks. iwconfig doesn't show ath0 interface anymore. any ideas>
[04:28] <yuka_> ?
[04:28] <khensthoth> 'Ned: cat /etc/fstab
[04:28] <tkt> sebsebseb, idk....  i don't know anything about how filesystems are developed
[04:29] <Severian> javb,  I may not understand what you are trying to do. I thought you were trying to connect to a samba share, but evidently not.  Can you tell me again?
[04:29] <sebsebseb> tkt:  if you set up the partitions your self  no newbie guided install
[04:29] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Either opening it in an editor (e.g. "gedit /etc/fstab" or "nano /etc/fstab") will work, or you can just do what khensthoth just said
[04:29] <sebsebseb> tkt: if you do it yourself quite a few file systems you can choose from
[04:29] <hacim> khensthoth: i'm at the partitioning step... i'm trying to install on a macbook pro, with osX dualboot
[04:30] <tkt> sebsebseb, well is it just ubuntu that is doing using ext4? becuase i use debian but i hang out here because the debian channel sucks
[04:30] <spawnery> hi house
[04:30] <spawnery> any body in?
[04:30] <sebsebseb> Severian: ok well  another time  I guess I  try out  JFS and XFS,  or at least one of them.   if  I try  differnet file systemes in vm's would I get the advantages?
[04:30] <khensthoth> hacim: Let me invoke my memory. Did you select manually specify the partitions to install? Was that step over already?
[04:30] <spawnery> i need to chart to some one right naw
[04:30] <kash> my initrd isn't creating /dev/sda* even though the module for the SATA chip is loaded :/
[04:31] <sebsebseb> tkt: nope  Fedora 11 which is currently in development will have  Ext4  as an option or mabye even the default
[04:31] <tkt> sebsebseb, i see
[04:31] <javb> Severian, i need to access a folder in the host mchine, from a virtual machine.. does that folder need to be shared using samba?
[04:31] <spawnery> i can not install microsoft ward in my computer system
[04:31] <RedSocrates> tkt: I'm using ext4 right now on ArchLinux
[04:31] <tkt> RedSocrates, any issues?
[04:31] <kash> spawnery: MS Warden?
[04:31] <spawnery> i need some one to tell me what the problem is pls
[04:31] <RedSocrates> tkt: Not so far, but it's only been a few days :)
[04:32] <Severian> sebsebseb, JFS is the safest to recommend.  XFS is a well tested system, but I believe there is an intermittent bug if you use it for the root filesystem and boot with GRUB.
[04:32] <tkt> RedSocrates, i see lol
[04:32] <sebsebseb> spawnery: hi
[04:32] <khensthoth> hacim: If you did that already you can go to the next step, select a partition and click delete. That will delete that partition.
[04:32] <spawnery> yea
[04:32] <sebsebseb> spawnery: ok
[04:32] <panfist> this may sound dumb, but how do you set your nickname in irssi?
[04:32] <panfist> how do you set your default nickname
[04:32] <sebsebseb> spawnery: first of all yes it is possible, but there are a few good alternatives
[04:32] <hacim> khensthoth: i'm trying to erase my existing install and reinstall, so I am at the "Prepare disk space" step
[04:32] <spawnery> pls tell me
[04:32] <sebsebseb> spawnery: rather new to Ubuntu/Linux ?
[04:32] <tkt> spawnery, use openoffice, it rocks.  openoffice.org
[04:32] <`Ned> RedSocrates, http://pastebin.com/md2351d6
[04:33] <Severian> javb,  It needs to be shared with samba, or nfs or some network filesystem.  The guest can't see the drives directly on the host.
[04:33] <spawnery> my dvd rom reeds my microsft cd but can not minstall it why?
[04:33] <shldbestdy> If I want to install ubuntu onto Sony Vaio VGN-FS550  do I just use the desktop CD or is there a laptop version of ubuntu?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> spawnery: Abiword is like a clone of Microsoft Word, but without the rubbish,  this also however means it lacks certain  advanced Word features, that like hardly anyone uses
[04:33] <maxwave3> panfist: i prefer to set it in ~/.irssi/config
[04:33] <sebsebseb> spawnery: like a clone of Word 2003 or 2000 yeah
[04:33] <`Ned> RedSocrates, I will try the ls thing...hold on
[04:33] <RedSocrates> `Ned: k
[04:34] <Vulture_> real quick, when you update to 9.04 via the button in the update manager, what do you lose? I was fairly certain all your files and things stuck around, but with the transfer to ext4(?) I wasn't sure everything stayed secure
[04:34] <sebsebseb> spawnery: Open Office is a good alternative to  Microsoft Office, but there is also KOffice
[04:34] <M25> panfist: /nick NewName
[04:34] <sebsebseb> spawnery: Ubuntu comes with Open Office by default
[04:34] <khensthoth> hacim: Select your existing partition of Linux, format it to whatever filesystem you want, mount it to / or /home and remember to tick Format Partition. That's about all I can recall.
[04:34] <spawnery> what do you want me to do
[04:34] <tkt> has anyone ever gotten bored and watched "ls -alR /" in there terminal?
[04:34] <xangua1> Vulture_: update will no change format partition
[04:34] <spawnery> how do i solve this problem?
[04:34] <Severian> javb, VirtualBox includes their own tool.  They call them shared folders.  You could look at that, but I prefer the more generic solution of setting up a samba share.
[04:34] <sebsebseb> spawnery: are you brand new to Ubuntu/Linux?
[04:35] <spawnery> yea
[04:35] <M25> tkt: why?
[04:35] <tkt> M25, because i just did....  was wondering if i am that much of a loser or if others have
[04:35] <sebsebseb> spawnery: ok  quite a few ways  software can be installed into Ubuntu,  but  the most quickest and best would the command line the terminal
[04:35] <tkt> M25, didn't finish though....
[04:35] <sebsebseb> spawnery: applications > assessories > terminal
[04:36] <spawnery> ?
[04:36] <sebsebseb> spawnery: you can  do a lot of stuff in  Ubuntu  graphicalley, but  also with commands
[04:36] <khensthoth> hacim: Okay I found an online screenshot of the installler at the step you are at. Are you still having problem?
[04:36] <Vulture_> xangual: so the format won't change and all my files will be fine? How do switch to ext4 and can I keep my files if I do? (it's not a problem to back up all my stuff to a portable harddrive, I'm just curious if I have to)
[04:36] <sebsebseb> spawnery: commands are very powerful and  save a lot of time, if you know how to use them :)
[04:36] <M25> tkt: I've tried it, it's just that this channel's crowded enough with chat about problems, you'd probably have more luck with conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:37] <sebsebseb> spawnery: sudo apt-get install  abiword   once you got the terminal  put your password in and hit enter.  that will download and install abiword for you
[04:37] <sebsebseb> spawnery: then you can open  the program from the menu,  or  by  typing abiword and hitting enter in the terminal
[04:37] <`Ned> RedSocrates, I typed 'ls /dev/cdrom0' and I got '/dev/cdrom0 ls: cannot access /dev/cdrom0: No such file or directory'
[04:37] <spawnery> sebsebseb i mean i need to install microsoft ward in my computer but the problem i dont no
[04:38]  * sebsebseb thinks spawnery might really be a troll
[04:38] <shldbestdy> When ever somone has time,  To install ubuntu on Sony Vaio VGN-FS550 laptop as, fresh install and only OS.  do I use the netbook remix?
[04:38] <sebsebseb> spawnery: it's called Microsoft Word
[04:38] <Acedip> i tried what is in the forum to stop http cache cleaner http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241926
[04:38] <Omar87> Every time I check for updates I get this message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/163952/
[04:38] <Ademan> hey guys, X is still running but I've got a black screen.  (dgen seems to have forced it into a mode that doesn't work, or something like that)  is there any way that I can either: restart X without killing/losing my X applications, or try and get X to output things again without restarting it?
[04:38] <wolter> hahaha
[04:38] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Okay, well that explains why the command line thing you tried didn't work
[04:38] <wolter> microsoft ward..
[04:38] <M25> shldbestdy: what size is the screen, in inches and in pixels?
[04:38] <sebsebseb> wolter: yeah I thought all along that this person was a troll
[04:38] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Does "ls /dev/scd0" show you something?
[04:39] <spawnery> yea i no
[04:39] <sebsebseb> wolter:  and calling it  microsoft ward twice
[04:39] <khensthoth> shldbestdy: Why not use the Ubuntu instead of the Netbook Remix?
[04:39] <Acedip> but it doesnt seem to have stopped it and i still can see http cache cleaner been launched every now and then..
[04:39] <sebsebseb> wolter: really does make   us think they are troll
[04:39] <spawnery> but i can not install it in my computer system
[04:39] <wolter> lol
[04:39] <wolter> lets not make it awkward for him
[04:39] <spawnery> it can not install
[04:39] <Acedip> how can i stop it and what exactly does it do ?
[04:39] <wolter> sorry spawnery
[04:39] <schnickelfritz> Hello. I have a problem connected to a wireless router (Actionet MI424-WR provided by Verizon). My laptop Dell Inspiron 1525 with Ubuntu preinstalled detects the signal but it showa the connecting icon but never actually connects. I disabled WEP and secutiry but to no avail. Any ideas?
[04:39] <sebsebseb> wolter: I told him how to do it via command line
[04:39] <wolter> it just sounded (read?) a little funny
[04:39] <sebsebseb> wolter: I mean how to get Abiword
[04:39] <shldbestdy> i think its 15.1 inch or something,  this is my GFs older laptop the HD "suppsedly" died
[04:39] <wolter> because you see, a ward is something else.
[04:40] <khensthoth> 15.4" http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-FS550-Laptop-Pentium-Processor/dp/B00079F7KW
[04:40] <shldbestdy> i think it just lost its recovery section and cna be fresh installed
[04:40] <sebsebseb> spawnery: Ubuntu is not Windows, as a result you should try alternative programs first,    if your a troll or not heh
[04:40] <Omar87> Every time I check for updates I get this message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/163952/
[04:40] <`Ned> RedSocrates, I get '/dev/scd0'
[04:40] <sebsebseb> spawnery: using Windows programs should be a last resort
[04:40] <shldbestdy> ysony wanted her to pay $300  to find out
[04:40] <wolter> spawnery, like a guardian
[04:40] <shldbestdy> so she went and bought  a new one for $700
[04:40] <spawnery> ok
[04:40] <wolter> spawnery, so you want word?
[04:40] <Roasted> Banshee users - any way I can have Banshee looks at my files "as is" like Exaile and Amarok do instead of looking at the ID tags to sort my stuff?
[04:40] <spawnery> how do i go pls sebsebseb tell me
[04:40] <sebsebseb> spawnery: what is the program called?
[04:41] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Can you also do a "ls /media/cdrom0" and make sure that shows up?
[04:41] <wolter> spawnery, you just have to install wine (latest/development version) and install it like you would on windows
[04:41] <sebsebseb> wolter: stop
[04:41] <wolter> sebsebseb, what?
[04:41] <sebsebseb> wolter: native first, wine next,  virtual machine last
[04:41] <wolter> sebsebseb, i'm helping him..
[04:41] <spawnery> wolter yea
[04:41] <sebsebseb> wolter: if the native stuff is good enough :)
[04:41] <sebsebseb> wolter: if not word
[04:41] <wolter> abiword?
[04:41] <wolter> sorry, but that's a failure.
[04:41] <sebsebseb> wolter: yep I suggested he installed abiword, and told him how
[04:41] <sebsebseb> wolter: I know what you think about these softwares :d
[04:41] <panfist> testing, can anyone say my name please thansk
[04:42] <sebsebseb> wolter: ,but no abiword is not a failure, plus he has oepn office by defualt
[04:42] <M25> panfist: ping
[04:42] <panfist> s/thansk/thanks/
[04:42] <genii> MS Word is abysmal under Wine if you get it to work at all
[04:42] <Omar87> I personally can't seem to believe that there people out there who actually use Banshee..
[04:42] <sebsebseb> spawnery: that topbar/pannel  click applications   then go to office and you should have open office
[04:42] <Xcell> I cheated this weekend:  I went and tried Debian / mint / fluxbox / xfce / to name a few..I must say..(Ubuntu kicked all their buts hands down)...Thanks Ubuntu for a (Great) operating system that (works).
[04:42] <sebsebseb> Omar87: yeah why not?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> Omar87: it's great
[04:42] <M25> Omar87: um... I do, it's epic, what version are you saying isn't?
[04:42] <shadow98> how can i backup my server so i can easily restore it....im getting ready to install postfix mail server and just go everything else working good..so before i go and screw something up...i want to make a backup that is easy to restore
[04:42] <panfist> what didnt you like about debian
[04:42] <schnickelfritz> Hello. I have a problem connecting to a wireless router (Actionet MI424-WR provided by Verizon). My laptop Dell Inspiron 1525 with Ubuntu preinstalled detects the signal but it showa the connecting icon but never actually connects. I disabled WEP and secutiry but to no avail. Any ideas?
[04:42] <shadow98> how can i make this happen easily
[04:42] <shldbestdy> ok, 15.4 inch screen, not sure on pixel,  should I just install ubuntu desktop?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> Omar87: it used to suck  the 8.04 version will suck, but  8.10 etc have good version
[04:42] <Omar87> sebsebseb: It's bloated, imho.
[04:43] <khensthoth> schnickelfritz: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:43] <wolter> sebsebseb, open office is good enough
[04:43] <M25> shldbestdy: if it's 15.4, regular is good
[04:43] <bobstro> Xcell:  that's quite a mix there
[04:43] <`Ned> RedSocrates, I typed 'ls /media/cdrom0' and I got 'ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0/VIDEO_TS: Permission denied VIDEO_TS'...then I tried adding 'sudo' and I got 'VIDEO_TS'.
[04:43] <schnickelfritz> Hardy Heron
[04:43] <wolter> sebsebseb, though its a mess with styling
[04:43] <sebsebseb> spawnery: can you get open office opended?
[04:43] <shldbestdy> Thanks!
[04:43] <M25> Omar87: if that's bloated, what do you think isn't?
[04:43] <spawnery> were do i see the application
[04:43] <wolter> sebsebseb, abiword is just... not that usable
[04:43] <ciberglo> hello there, could anyone give me a trick to read pdf documents without being tired in few time?
[04:43] <spawnery> were do i get it pls?
[04:43] <MrKeuner> hi, ati 9.4 does not have support for my card radeon x300, therefore ubuntu updates warns me that i won;t have ati support in jaunty. Is that true, or can i use ati driver version 9.3 for example(which supports x300)
[04:43] <Omar87> M25: Songbird is the best.
[04:43] <sebsebseb> spawnery: open from the assessories menu
[04:44] <spawnery> no were do i find it
[04:44] <wolter> sebsebseb, if you want to save an abw into doc while editing it you have to do some magic, or it will name it with %20 where spaces go.
[04:44] <sebsebseb> wolter: have you even used Koffice :)
[04:44] <wolter> for example...
[04:44] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Uh... Hm.  Do you have any idea what VIDEO_TS is?  It might help if you also show me a pastebin of the output of "mount"
[04:44] <wolter> sebsebseb, yes..
[04:44] <spawnery> then?
[04:44] <Omar87> Every time I check for updates I get this message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/163952/
[04:44] <khensthoth> schnickelfritz: Can you previously connect to the internet at all or this is a new laptop?
[04:44] <Xcell> bobstro-    I was talked into it by a Debian uer... so i gve 6 sytems their fair shake....none stood the tet..Ubuntu won Evry time.
[04:44] <sebsebseb> spawnery: go to the office one
[04:44] <wolter> sebsebseb, what i like about it is that it only has like 4 styles
[04:44] <`Ned> RedSocrates, I have a dvd in the drive right now...don't know if that's the reason why
[04:44] <sebsebseb> spawnery: and then open  open office
[04:44] <wolter> so its not a mess, like openoffice
[04:44] <M25> Omar87: ...you're kidding me... have you seen songbird's ram usage?  it's about 200MB on my system, banshee runs using 30MB... maybe just me but that's a huge difference
[04:44] <ciberglo> could anyone give me a trick to read pdf documents without being tired in few time?
[04:44] <RedSocrates> `Ned: That's what I'm thinking.  Hence why I need to see the output of your "mount" command
[04:44] <spawnery> it's not in the assesries
[04:44] <wolter> sebsebseb, does he come from windows?
[04:45] <M25> spawnery: it's under office
[04:45] <`Ned> RedSocrates, do you want me to remove the dvd and try again?
[04:45] <bobstro> ciberglo:  what do you mean tired?
[04:45] <RedSocrates> `Ned: In a moment, but first can you show me the output of "mount"?
[04:45] <sebsebseb> wolter: I guess so, or they are just  a troll
[04:45] <spawnery> i mean i have not been able to install it in my computer
[04:45] <Omar87> M25: Okay, Exaile rocks too. And don't tell me it's a RAM eater because it's not.
[04:45] <spawnery> that is the problem
[04:45] <schnickelfritz> Yes, I was able to connect perfectly from other wireless routers on campus and at home.
[04:45] <sebsebseb> spawnery: you need the menu
[04:45] <wolter> sebsebseb, they who?
[04:45] <Severian> shadow98, the easiest way is to take a snapshot of the virtual machine the server is running in.  That does require that your server be in a VM.
[04:45] <sebsebseb> wolter: not sure if spawney is a troll
[04:45] <sebsebseb> or not
[04:45] <wolter> sebsebseb, ah, i don't think so..
[04:45] <wolter> spawnery, are you a troll?
[04:46] <M25> Omar87: exaile's great, I just prefer banshee because it works better with how I manage my music.  I used exaile for months before banshee got awesome
[04:46] <drschupp1> lol, because trolls are incapable of lying
[04:46] <drschupp1> we all know this
[04:46] <sebsebseb> drschupp1: heh yeah indeed
[04:46] <wolter> hahaha
[04:46] <Lucas156> how do you get a list of the rooms for a certain server
[04:46] <Urik> Hi. Guys, I need your help a second. I'm trying to make a shell script. Let's say that the first argument is "26/10/1988"
[04:46] <spawnery> ?
[04:46] <Lucas156> ?
[04:46] <shadow98> Severian, well this is on a physical machine...what is best way there
[04:46] <sebsebseb> honestly  I think most people can find the menu
[04:46] <wolter> drschupp1, that's why i asked him directly
[04:46] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: means small letters, a window without organization, i mean: does exists an app that shows up 2 pages in fullscreen, using the most fill page they could, and facilies the reading work?
[04:46] <Omar87> M25: Audacious is great too.
[04:46] <khensthoth> schnickelfritz: In that case, the problem is more likely to be one with your router/internet connection isn't it?
[04:46] <wolter> drschupp1, so he wouldn't lie.
[04:46] <sebsebseb> spawnery: do you know what a programs menu is?
[04:46] <Urik> is there any way of putting the 26 on a variable?
[04:46] <Urik> like a cut for variables?
[04:46] <schnickelfritz> Yes
[04:46] <spawnery> nop
[04:46] <drschupp1> wolter: brilliant!
[04:46] <schnickelfritz> I think the router is somehow not compatible with Ubuntu
[04:47] <spawnery> pls tell me
[04:47] <wolter> bye guys.. going to do some WARCRAFT.. III, not the World of...
[04:47] <Severian> shadow98, dd is probably easist.
[04:47] <sebsebseb> spawnery: do you know what Windows is?
[04:47] <spawnery> yea
[04:47] <schnickelfritz> However, my laptop does detect the signal!
[04:47] <Omar87> Every time I check for updates I get this message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/163952/
[04:47] <bobstro> ciberglo:  everything you're describing i see in document viewer. are you running gnome?
[04:47] <sebsebseb> spawnery: ok at the top you have a menu
[04:47] <wolter> sebsebseb, come on.. what if he is not?
[04:47] <M25> Omar87: I never got audacious to work well with my library, not sure why.  If you want unbloated media players, seriously stick with rhythmbox, it does very well
[04:47] <sebsebseb> spawnery: press  assessories
[04:47] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: yeap
[04:47] <sebsebseb> spawnery: go to office
[04:47] <schnickelfritz> I changed the router settings so it would broadcast the SSID (/)
[04:47] <sebsebseb> spawnery: open
[04:47] <sebsebseb> spawnery: open office
[04:47] <bobstro> ciberglo:  so... there's your answer, no?
[04:47] <schnickelfritz> (?)
[04:47] <wolter> spawnery, don't let this sebtard treat you as a... tard..
[04:47] <Severian> shadearg, but, dd takes a while for a big disk.
[04:47] <bobstro> ciberglo:  unless you mean something else by "reading"?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> wolter: calling me a tard ha ha
[04:48] <sebsebseb> wolter: your loyal to me, and you know it to :D
[04:48] <drschupp1> i'm most concerned about spawnery's difficulty with menus in the context of him being on IRC...
[04:48] <Omar87> M25: Yeah, but I personally believe Songbird does it for me. :)
[04:48] <khensthoth> schnickelfritz: Is there a filter on your router to explicitly allow computers to connect?
[04:48] <Stanlin> Help, ho wto install Tuxonice?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> drschupp1: good point
[04:48] <drschupp1> this isn't the simplest place to get to
[04:48] <Stanlin> !tuxonice
[04:48] <spawnery> ?
[04:48] <Stanlin> what is the name of the last ubuntu? jaunty?
[04:48] <schnickelfritz> A filter?
[04:49] <jken146> Stanlin: yep
[04:49] <sebsebseb> spawnery: your not even on Ubuntu
[04:49] <sebsebseb> spawnery: your on Opera on Windows
[04:49] <milo> yes jaunty
[04:49] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: but would be great to find an app that takes a document, put 2 pages in 1, go to full screen, fit the page zooing it the most it could without erasing letters, and all automatically. does document viewer do it?
[04:49] <sebsebseb> spawnery: troll!
[04:49] <sebsebseb> !troll |  spawnery
[04:49] <schnickelfritz> I disabled WEP and made it an open hot spot but that doesn't work either
[04:49] <spawnery> yea
[04:49] <drschupp1> trollz? on the interwebs?
[04:49] <Omar87> M25: all I need in one sing place, my music, lyrics.. etc.
[04:49] <wolter> sebsebseb, yeah.. i know it
[04:49] <M25> Omar87: use what you like man, that's the freedom of FOSS :)  also, I looked up your apt problem, looks like you need to fix your RSA keys, I have a script to do that somewhere I think
[04:49] <bobstro> ciberglo:  F11 puts you in full-screen mode. you can zoom to 100% and get 2-up display if your screen is big enough.
[04:49] <khensthoth> schnickelfritz: Most router has a feature to limit who can and cannot connect to the router. Maybe you are excluded from this filter.
[04:49] <jken146> sebsebseb: You're allmost trolling yourself there; please stop baiting
[04:50] <khensthoth> schnickelfritz: Were you able to connect to this router previously?
[04:50] <spawnery> ?
[04:50] <schnickelfritz> no
[04:50] <Omar87> M25: Thanks man.
[04:50] <sebsebseb> jken146:     two trolls in a row hummm  two nights in a row
[04:50] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: ok. i'll try that, but still wanting an app that fits (intelligent) 2 pages in a full screen better arranged, but thanks too much bobstro
[04:50] <schnickelfritz> What's the technical name of the filter so I can look for it
[04:50] <ciberglo> see'ya
[04:50] <khensthoth> schnickelfritz: Some call it MAC Filter.
[04:50] <bobstro> ciberglo:  they are side-by-side. what could be better arranged than like a book?
[04:50] <`Ned> RedSocrates, ok I typed 'mount' and I got this: http://pastebin.com/m4f4e8e73
[04:51] <bobstro> ciberglo:  you can get better than 100% size on a 22 inch monitor.
[04:51] <schnickelfritz> I made sure not to require MAC authentication
[04:51] <Stanlin> !suspend2
[04:51] <`Ned> RedSocrates, oh yeah, I removed the dvd by the way
[04:51] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: i know, but i'm on a notebook
[04:51] <yuka_> iwconfig doesn't show ath0 interface anymore. any ideas?
[04:51] <regeya> !apparmor
[04:51] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Did you remove the dvd before typing the "mount" command?
[04:51] <M25> Omar87: found the script, I'll pastebin it for ya, do you know how to use chmod, sudo, and such to make it runnable and work?
[04:51] <schnickelfritz> I suspect it has to do with broadcasting me an IP address ...the DHCP thing
[04:51] <bobstro> ciberglo:  well... you're on a small screen!
[04:51] <ciberglo> yeap, 15'
[04:51] <`Ned> RedSocrates, yes
[04:51] <bobstro> ciberglo:  two-up display will have to be small size, of course.
[04:51] <khensthoth> schnickelfritz: Use an Ethernet Cable to connect to the router. Does it work?
[04:52] <bobstro> ciberglo:  just read them one-up, not two-up.
[04:52] <Omar87> M25: Yeah, I use them all the time. :)
[04:52] <schnickelfritz> I am using the ethernet cable to communicate here now
[04:52] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: yeap, like a book, and could be more: take a page, and if it doesn't fit 100% of height, than up the height of that page, and if the second page can be arranged in width, do that
[04:52] <RedSocrates> `Ned: D'oh, didn't want you to do that.  Put the dvd back in and then show me the output of the mount command
[04:52] <bobstro> ciberglo:  or do you want auto-scroll like that?
[04:52] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: you know what i mean?
[04:52] <M25> http://paste2.org/p/197414
[04:52] <schnickelfritz> I just want to be able to connect wirelessly and not be hooked to this room
[04:52] <`Ned> RedSocrates, oops sorry....ok I'll do that
[04:52] <bobstro> ciberglo:  i think you want "continuous" display
[04:52] <RedSocrates> `Ned: k, no prob
[04:52] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: no, auto scroll is not the point, but for someone would be great
[04:53] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: yeah, maybe is that
[04:53] <M25> Omar87: http://paste2.org/p/197414
[04:53] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: an auto-arrange function to facilite the lecture
[04:53] <Stanlin> Help!! HOW to install tuxonice?
[04:53]  * M25 always forgets to tag pastebins with names :p
[04:53] <ciberglo> bobstro,in a 2-page-fullscreen mode
[04:53] <spawnery> i need smtp any body to help me?
[04:53] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: hehe
[04:53] <bobstro> ciberglo:  what do you mean auto-arrange? they're books.
[04:53] <M25> Stanlin: Add/Remove programs, in your menu on the top left, search for it, check the box, hit apply
[04:54] <bobstro> ciberglo:  most of the problem you seem to have is display size, not the reader software.
[04:54] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: i'm talking about editable text, and i mean: thats cause i'm not usa, i'm from brazil, poor english, let me think here
[04:54] <spawnery> i need shell can any body help me/
[04:54] <bobstro> ciberglo:  oh, a PDF EDITOR is something else entirely. i've yet to find one that really worked well.
[04:54] <spawnery> i need cpanel can any body help me?
[04:55] <M25> anybody want to call ops on spawnery?
[04:55] <bobstro> spawnery:  yes.
[04:55] <jken146> ciberglo: You could try pdfedit
[04:55] <Stanlin> m25 nothing there
[04:55] <`Ned> RedSocrates, http://pastebin.com/m5e389d88
[04:55] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: i mean: if a get 1 page at full screen, and see blank-spaces at left and rigt sides, and at top and bottom sides, it means that that text could be more "arranged" to show more text in that space. and i talked about pdf for an example, my really problema right now is with .odt, but i'm globalizing the problem
[04:55] <spawnery> bobstro pls what do you have for me?
[04:55] <bobstro> spawnery:  all of it
[04:56] <spawnery> ok
[04:56] <sebsebseb> M25: you can if you want  just type in  !ops |  spawnery
[04:56] <regeya> shucks, I'd be interested in a pdf editor as well.  I usually only work with PDFs at work, and there I have Acrobat ;-)
[04:56] <bobstro> ciberglo:  just zoom in more... at least that will fill the left and right sides.
[04:56] <spawnery> !ops
[04:56] <M25> Stanlin: oh, select All Available Applications next to Show at the top
[04:56] <drschupp1> wait... people are still listening to spawnery?
[04:56] <zChris> who?
[04:57] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: ok. you answered my question. today doesn't have a program that automatically do what i'm wanting, with intelligent, to facilite and arrange good-well texts for lecture
[04:57] <Stanlin> m25, nothing yet
[04:57] <bobstro> drschupp1:  poorly written scripts need to be debugged.
[04:57] <spawnery> bobstro pls can you send me any of them?
[04:57] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: thks again. bye guy
[04:57] <bobstro> spawnery:  ok, what is your address?
[04:57] <bobstro> ciberglo:  good luck!
[04:57] <Flannel> spawnery: please cease causing trouble.  Thanks.
[04:57] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: thks
[04:57] <jken146> ciberglo: In open office writer, have you tried View > Zoom > Optimal?
[04:57] <spawnery><EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:57] <ealzate> Hi any good tutorial about bash programming?
[04:58] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Okay.  That shows that it's automounting.  Can you remind me what you're doing in GNOME to access it, and what error it's giving you?
[04:58] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: oh, just 1 thing, do you have a tip about irc's software, a good well?
[04:58] <spawnery> you got that?
[04:58] <jken146> !bash
[04:58] <M25> Stanlin: I don't have it either, where did you hear about it?
[04:58] <ciberglo> [jken146]: well, not yet, will try, but still thinking it won't do what i want, haha, but thks, will try
[04:58] <bobstro> spawnery:  your street address. it's a big box.
[04:58] <Stanlin> M25: http://www.tuxonice.net/
[04:58] <spawnery> i dont have that
[04:59] <spawnery> can't you send it online to me?
[04:59] <bobstro> ciberglo:  i use xchat, but i'm just lazy
[04:59] <snowrichard> no street address? you live in a po box?
[04:59] <bobstro> spawnery:  it's hard to fit the box
[04:59] <bobstro> spawnery:  what's your phone number. we should talk about this.
[04:59] <M25> Stanlin: oh, ubuntu already has a hibernate function, click on the power buton in the upper right corner of your screen, select hibernate
[04:59] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: ok, thks
[04:59] <jken146> !ot
[04:59] <spawnery> you wanna call me?
[05:00] <Stanlin> M25: doesnt work, it fails and crash my laptop
[05:00] <bobstro> spawnery:  we all want to call you, yes.
[05:00] <Flannel> Alright guys, enough with the offtopic.
[05:00] <M25> Stanlin: tuxonice won't work any better, as far as I've heard.  what model laptop?  I used to have the same issue
[05:00] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: oh, do you know a program that parses WUBI installation to a particioned installation, without loosing personalized data i've already made in my ubuntu wubi installation?
[05:00] <Omar87> M25: Executed the script, but the problem is still there.
[05:00] <jken146> !ot | bobstro, spawnery
[05:00] <`Ned> RedSocrates, since the cd/dvd drive icon does not automatically show up in 'Places' when I upgrade to 9.04, I access it by Places > Computer > CD-RW/DVD-ROM Drive, then I click on 'Moun Volume', then it says 'Unable to mount location. Can't mount file.'
[05:00] <spawnery> can you call my computer?
[05:00] <spawnery> i have mic to listen
[05:01] <M25> with sudo I assume?
[05:01] <Omar87> M25: Yes
[05:01] <bobstro> ciberglo:  upgrade?
[05:01] <M25> Omar87: weird, what server are you trying to pull from?
[05:01] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: what?
[05:01] <zChris> does ubuntu automaticly recognize that you have a External monitor connected to it and the internal monitor closed when you are starting it ?
[05:01] <bobstro> ciberglo:  you can upgrade the old installation.
[05:01] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: but how? i'm already using 9.04
[05:01] <sebsebseb> Flannel: about time
[05:02] <Brando753> guys i keep getting this tracker error popping up, what should i do? http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8703/trackererror.png
[05:02] <Flannel> sebsebseb: He was only a problem because people kept talking to hi,
[05:02] <spawnery>  ok
[05:02] <jken146> Brando753: Have you tried reindexing?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> Flannel: I guess so, and he is back
[05:02] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Let's talk in private messages, I'm going to paste a few commands and such
[05:02] <bobstro> ciberglo:  i don't understand what you mean, sorry.
[05:02] <`Ned> RedSocrates, ok
[05:03] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: you know about ubuntu wubi installation?
[05:03] <Brando753> I hit reindex all content, cancel, and ok it just keeps popping up the same box right after i click
[05:03] <bobstro> ciberglo:  yes, run it on my laptop now.
[05:03] <Stanlin> M25: WTH it works
[05:03] <bobstro> ciberglo:  i upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 recently.
[05:03] <Stanlin> M25: amazing
[05:03] <M25> Stanlin: you're welcome I guess?  :)
[05:03] <M25> Stanlin: don't know what I did
[05:04] <ciberglo> bobstor, ok, installed from another operacional system, and works like: install a 15GB (or another) file, that represents all the disk., and is emulated, than you reboot your machine, they shows at mbr, but you can desinstall it from windows (for example)
[05:04] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: see up
[05:04] <Brando753> any idea on why i keep getting this tracker error?
[05:04] <Stanlin> M25: thank you, now im going to setup all the hardware, and see if i dont crash anymore
[05:04] <spawnery> dada?
[05:04] <spawnery> wada?
[05:04] <jken146> Brando753: No
[05:04] <Brando753> ;(
[05:04] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: now, i installed it like that, and want to moves to a particioned hd, but without loosing my data (i have a beautiful and great ubuntu right now), you know how can i do that?
[05:05] <bobstro> ciberglo:  yes, you can un-install it easily. it's just a file used by loopback for mounting.
[05:05] <bobstro> OH!
[05:05] <bobstro> ciberglo:  i gotcha
[05:05] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: so, could you help?
[05:05] <bobstro> ciberglo:  new install is on same system, or another one?
[05:05] <Flannel> spawnery: How can we help you today?
[05:05] <XPS_M1330> how can I know what process is using an USB disk
[05:05] <jken146> Brando753: If you don't use tracker at all, I'd disable it if I were you, but only if you don't need it
[05:05] <Brando753> what does it even do?
[05:05] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: type bob and press tab  to auto complete :)
[05:06] <jken146> Brando753: It indexes your files for faster searching
[05:06] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: new install is on same system? what? i have windows and ubuntu installed from that, now i want to moves ubuntu to a particioned hd (still my hd, but particioned one)
[05:06] <jken146> Brando753: Useful if you use deskbar search or gnome-do a lot; otherwise it's pretty much just a drain on resources
[05:06] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: yeap, but bob[tab] shows another person, i tryed that, and still believes my irc soff is a she*t
[05:06] <M25> jken146, Brando753 you might want to tell him about Locate, I ditched tracker for that quite a while ago
[05:06] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: yeah you use the mouse to select the correct one
[05:07] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: man, i have so many ideas, if i'd a better programmer, i'd create that, would be famous
[05:07] <bobstro> ciberglo:  well, a lot of ways. easiest might be to install ubuntu to new partition, then mount old loopback. or just copy your home directory (including hidden files) while running wubi, then copy back from new system.
[05:07] <MrKeuner> hi, ati 9.4 does not have support for my card radeon x300, therefore ubuntu update-manager warns me that i won't have 3d support in jaunty. Is that true, or can i use fglrx driver version 9.3 for example(which supports x300)
[05:07] <jken146> !locate
[05:07] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: wubi is only good for trying
[05:07] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: partition your hard disk for real :)
[05:07] <Stanlin> !nvidia
[05:07] <smadge> when i attempt to install ubuntu, i get the following error: "input/output error when writing to /dev/sda" and install aborts
[05:07] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: but my installed softwares, and etc., they would not be backed up
[05:07] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: wubi not that good for long term Ubuntu usage
[05:08] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: i know, and want to do that with my already ubuntu backed up, know how?
[05:08] <bobstro> ciberglo:  make a dump of the install packages. argh... i've forgotten the steps, but have done it often with debian installs.
[05:08] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: no and it's not recommended to try to do such things with a wubi install
[05:08] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: cause i just compiled a new kernel more powerfull, personalized gnome, installed programs, don't want to loose them
[05:08] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: just get any data backed up, and start over with a proper parttioend install
[05:08] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: ok, will search about that, thks dude
[05:08] <bobstro> ciberglo:  dpkg --get-selections on old, save that to file, then dpkg --set-selections.
[05:09] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: well doing certain things twice or more is a good way to make, sure you know how to do it
[05:09] <bobstro> ciberglo:  then apt-get dselect-upgrade
[05:09] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: and what's wrong with the kernel in ubuntu repo?
[05:09] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: thks, will try that
[05:09] <jken146> ciberglo: You can also copy .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives/ to your new install to save having to download them twice
[05:09] <bobstro> ciberglo:  like i said, LOTS of ways to do it.
[05:09] <oublic> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu. I have an issue with sound. I have sound at the login screen/when i'm logging in, but once i'm in an account, I no longer have sound. Any suggestions would be welcome
[05:10] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: well, some things
[05:10] <Brando753> also, I have been getting a anoying partial upgrade that keeps popping up during log in or in the middle of a session http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6721/partialupgrade.png no matter how many times i hit partial upgrade it keeps popping up later
[05:10] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: such as?
[05:10] <bobstro> jken146:  i'm just not sure about details of mounting the loopback off an ntfs partition to do that. otherwise, he could copy home directory same way.
[05:10] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: i still didn't fell like this new ubuntu is fast enough
[05:10] <bobstro> jken146:  should work fine, but hard to explain :)
[05:10] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: so use another file system to make it faster
[05:10] <bobstro> ciberglo:  boots nice and fast now!
[05:10] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: fill* ?
[05:10] <drschupp1> oublic: have you opened up sound control?
[05:10] <bobstro> ciberglo:  wubi will be slower
[05:10] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: also a wubi install  won't work as well as a real partitioned one
[05:11] <smadge> when i attempt to install ubuntu, i get the following error: "input/output error when writing to /dev/sda" and install aborts. Is this a hardware issue or else?
[05:11] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: well, at your installation, cause mine at wubi is powerless
[05:11] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: yeap, but i noticed that that would be just a small lost
[05:11] <oublic> drschupp1: yes, i've messed with sound control and made sure that every possible volume control is maxed, still no volume
[05:11] <ciberglo> at speed
[05:11] <jken146> bobstro: I know almost nothing about wubi, sorry
[05:11] <minazo> Anyone ever try disabling their Touchpad on their laptop? Looks like synclient and/or syndaemon will do it but haven't found the right resource yet to disbale under Xubuntu. I never use it so turning it off for good would be great.
[05:11] <M25> smadge: sounds to me like hardware, can you try installing on a different drive?
[05:12] <bobstro> ciberglo:  it works. i will eventually re-partition, but i got a new laptop drive and the entire thing gets replaced next week. i much prefer giving ubuntu it's own partition!
[05:12] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: sebsebseb, do you ever noticed about omnislash kernel?
[05:12] <Brando753> also, I have been getting a anoying partial upgrade that keeps popping up during log in or in the middle of a session http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6721/partialupgrade.png no matter how many times i hit partial upgrade it keeps popping up later
[05:12] <bobstro> jken146:  it uses a loopback filesystem on the ntfs partition. so you can mount the ntfs, and then presumably the loopback off that.
[05:12] <BlinkyToon> ref WUBI .. I could not get 9.04 to install at all with WUBI this time
[05:12] <smadge> M25: i have a single internal ssd drive
[05:12] <jken146> minazo: How about turning it off in the BIOS?
[05:12] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: yeap, its a nice idea, i will do that soonly
[05:12] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: you ever know about omnislash kernel?
[05:12] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: use  Ext4 or  JFS or somethign like that when you partition
[05:13] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: ok, will try that
[05:13] <BlinkyToon> now going for a dualboot solution with Win XP pro
[05:13] <bobstro> mine *was* dual-boot until the drive got killed.
[05:13] <zChris> does ubuntu automaticly recognize that you have a External monitor connected to it and the internal monitor closed when you are starting it ?
[05:13] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: just keep any data you want to be sure not to lose backed up elsewhere if your going Ext4.  and Ext3 is the default
[05:13] <Brando753> Guys, I have been getting a anoying partial upgrade that keeps popping up during log in or in the middle of a session http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6721/partialupgrade.png no matter how many times i hit partial upgrade it keeps popping up later
[05:13] <ciberglo> well guys, thks too much, but its 1am here in brazil, and tomorrow i have test, so, thks too much and see'ya
[05:13] <jken146> zChris: Try it and find out?
[05:13] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: ok, wil try, thks man
[05:14] <zChris> jken146: i rather not since my internal monitor is broken atm
[05:14] <bobstro> ciberglo:  good luck. again.
[05:14] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: that kernel sounds like something I might have heard of
[05:14] <ciberglo> [bobstro]: thks, bye man
[05:14] <M25> smadge: does the drive currently have anything on it
[05:14] <M25> ?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> ciberglo: ,but  9.04's kernel is good
[05:14] <jken146> zChris: If your internal monitor is broken then what have you got to lose?
[05:14] <fikr> HI, I'm upgrading Ubuntu to 9.04, how to pause updating and continue the next time?
[05:14] <zChris> jken146: that i cant boot it into windows
[05:14] <sebsebseb> fikr: you can't
[05:15] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: so much patched, optimized, prefer's that one, but will give another try to this 9.04's kernel, but will recompile it too, haha
[05:15] <jken146> zChris: I don't see how it could prevent you from doing that
[05:15] <ciberglo> [sebsebseb]: bye man
[05:15] <zChris> jken146: how would i know what to do if i dont see anything
[05:16] <Brando753> Guys, I have been getting a anoying partial upgrade that keeps popping up during log in or in the middle of a session http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6721/partialupgrade.png no matter how many times i hit partial upgrade it keeps popping up later, what can i do???
[05:16] <fikr> sebsebseb: is there any alternative way?
[05:16] <jken146> zChris: In theory, it should work, because of the way xorg now configures itself. But the only sure way to find out with any particular set of hardware is to try it
[05:16] <sebsebseb> fikr: no and just let it install
[05:16] <zChris> jken146: okey i think i pass this time
[05:16] <pace_t_zulu> is there a python-tlslite package available in the repos? i can't seem to find one
[05:16] <sebsebseb> fikr: cancancalling an install will make the partition go bad, or you will have to start over from scratch
[05:16] <sebsebseb> fikr: Ubuntu is quick to install
[05:16] <jken146> zChris: When you turn your computer on with an external screen attached, do you see anything?
[05:16] <minazo> jken146: didn't think about that I might be able to disable it via the BIOS...it's worth a try. Thanks.
[05:16] <sebsebseb> fikr: you don't pause the install of operating systems half way through
[05:17] <zChris> jken146: no, it only show video when im at the login section in Win Vista
[05:17] <fikr> sebsebseb: I mean downloading, downloading is too slow
[05:17] <sebsebseb> fikr: you can get from another mirror
[05:17] <sebsebseb> fikr: md5sum the ISO before  burning by the way
[05:17] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[05:17] <jken146> zChris: But what about the motherboard messages, BIOS etc?
[05:17] <sebsebseb> fikr: get from a mirror that is near to where you live
[05:17] <jken146> zChris: and GRUB? Do you see GRUB?
[05:18] <zChris> jken146: nope, its showing on the internal monitor which is broken
[05:18] <ieatnoobs> Is there a way to increase the amount of space between the beginning of a window title and the edge of the screen?
[05:18] <Omar87> M25: About the server, I'm not sure. How can I find out?
[05:18] <bobstro> fikr:  or bittorrent perhaps?
[05:18] <fikr> sebsebseb: now is step1 "Preparing to upgrade", how to set to another mirror?
[05:18] <M25> Omar87: in Software Sources, first tab, next to Download From: what's selected?
[05:18] <pace_t_zulu> is there a python-tlslite package available in the repos? i can't seem to find one
[05:18] <sebsebseb> fikr: oh an upgrade not  clean install
[05:18] <ieatnoobs> How do I get the Orb screenlet to work?
[05:18] <Severian> ieatnoobs, Move the window down
[05:19] <bobstro> fikr:  oh, the packages you mean?
[05:19] <Omar87> M25: Main server.
[05:19] <ieatnoobs> Severian: On the left side
[05:19] <jken146> zChris: Oh I see.  In that case, I believe there's nothing you can do with certainty.  Sorry
[05:19] <fikr> bobstro: downloading the upgrade
[05:19] <Severian> ieatnoobs, move it to the right
[05:19] <fikr> sebsebseb: ???
[05:19] <M25> Omar87: if you're in the U.S., try selecting Server For United States, made everything faster for me
[05:20] <bobstro> fikr:  gotcha.
[05:20] <ieatnoobs> Severian: When it's maximized
[05:20] <Severian> pace_t_zulu, What python module are you trying to get?
[05:20] <bobstro> can you upgrade off a cd? i never tried.
[05:20] <ieatnoobs> Bobstro: Yup
[05:20] <Omar87> M25: No, not in the U.S., I'm in the middle east. Jordan to be specific.
[05:20] <jken146> M25, Omar87 : The main server is on the Isle of Man IIRC
[05:20] <hacim> arrrrgh, i cannot get ubuntu to work on a macbook pro
[05:20] <pace_t_zulu> Severian python-tlslite
[05:20] <ieatnoobs> hacim: Ditch the Mac.
[05:21] <hacim> ieatnoobs: ok, done, now what
[05:21] <khensthoth> Omar87: There's a tool to automatically select the fastest server. Select Other Server, Best Server I think
[05:21] <ieatnoobs> hacim: Install it..? What's the problem
[05:21] <jken146> Omar87: You will almost certainly see a big difference by choosing a local mirror.  There is even a button to click in Software Sources that finds the fastest server for you
[05:21] <Sagaci> how can i make gthumb the default image viewer for image files
[05:21] <Severian> ieatnoobs, I never maximize windows.  I just tried it and the answer is No, you can't increase the space, as fas as I know.
[05:22] <hacim> ieatnoobs: i install, reboot, then only get "GRUB" and nothing else. I've reinstalled grub, but to no avail
[05:22] <ieatnoobs> Hacim: Can you use GRUB?
[05:22] <ieatnoobs> Severian: Damn. Can you append a space before every window title?
[05:22] <jken146> Sagaci: It's in the properties box for that file
[05:22] <hacim> ieatnoobs: no, I only get GRUB printed in the upper left corner, and nothing else
[05:23] <Severian> pace_t_zulu, You got that package name from somewhere.  Put that out of your mind for a moment.  What Python module do you want?  In your Python program, you are going to import something.  What is that name?
[05:23] <M25> ieatnoobs: it depends on your metacity theme actually
[05:23] <ieatnoobs> Hacim: Sounds like a problem in GRUB.
[05:23] <ieatnoobs> m25: I'm using Compiz
[05:23] <M25> ieatnoobs: are you using emerald?  if not, then your metacity theme is still applying
[05:23] <hacim> ieatnoobs: i know that
[05:24] <ieatnoobs> M25: I am using emerald
[05:24] <ieatnoobs> hacim: Boot off a live CD and reinstall GRUB
[05:24] <Severian> ieatnoobs, probably.  Try that in the menu editor to start the program.
[05:24] <ieatnoobs> Severian: Try what in Menu editor?
[05:24] <M25> ieatnoobs: there's a emerald theme editor somewhere in synaptic that'll let you mess with it and make it look like anything you like
[05:24] <ieatnoobs> M25: Hmm
[05:24] <Severian> The one for ubuntu.
[05:24] <Severian> ieatnoobs,  The one for ubuntu.
[05:25] <ieatnoobs> Severian: Where do I find it? What's the package
[05:25] <Severian> ieatnoobs, System/Preferences/Main Menu
[05:25] <hacim> ieatnoobs: i already did that
[05:26] <ieatnoobs> Hacim: You reinstalled GRUB?
[05:26] <nathan_406> did 9.04 fix the dug that kills the laptop battery
[05:26] <hacim> ieatnoobs: yes
[05:26] <ieatnoobs> I'm in main menu, what now?
[05:26] <ieatnoobs> Sevarian: What do I do in main menu?
[05:27] <Severian> ieatnoobs, Look for the program you want to change the title of.  Try changing the title.  I have not tried that myself, but it is likely to be there.
[05:27] <ieatnoobs> Sevarian: I want to change every single window title
[05:27] <ieatnoobs> m25: Where is that?
[05:28] <`Ned> RedSocrates got my dvd drive working again! yay!
[05:28] <ieatnoobs> M25: Where would I find stuff like that?
[05:28] <RedSocrates> :D
[05:28] <RedSocrates> Took us a while
[05:28] <M25> ieatnoobs: one sec, I'll see if it's in Add/Remove programs
[05:28] <ieatnoobs> M25: Thanks
[05:28] <khensthoth> RedSocrates: So what's the problem actually?
[05:28] <RedSocrates> Has anyone else heard/seen anything about a bug in Jaunty regarding the mounting of CDs/DVDs?
[05:29] <Severian> ieatnoobs, good luck.  I think I would try one or two to see if it gives you the effect you want first.
[05:29] <nathan_406> I would like to know if ubuntu 9.04 fix the dug that kills the laptop battery
[05:29] <M25> ieatnoobs: go to System->Administration->Synaptic in your menu
[05:29] <RedSocrates> khensthoth: For some reason his drive wouldn't mount when the options in /etc/fstab were "udf,iso9660"; he had to switch it around to "iso9660,udf"
[05:29] <Roque2> RedSocrates I ahve nto yet had that problem
[05:29] <harovali> usser: i've concluded my notebook lacks bluetooth
[05:29] <Roque2> wow typing bad this morning
[05:29] <ieatnoobs> Lol
[05:29] <RedSocrates> I've heard this is a bug, but can't currently find anything about it
[05:29] <ieatnoobs> I juts heard someone say
[05:29] <RedSocrates> Would like to report it or confirm it
[05:29] <khensthoth> RedSocrates: And switching fixed it?
[05:29] <M25> ieatnoobs: synaptic is the more advanced version of Add/Remove, lets you install/uninstall less common and more advanced stuff
[05:30] <RedSocrates> khensthoth: Right
[05:30] <ieatnoobs> "It says thirteen thousand kilobytes, not thirteen megabytes!" *Sigh.*
[05:30] <ieatnoobs> M25: Okay. What's the package?
[05:30] <RedSocrates> khensthoth: As I say, I've heard of this being a bug, but can't currently find anything about it
[05:30] <`Ned> RedSocrates, all I know is the first time I mentioned this problem in here, another person said he was having the same problem with jaunty...and just like me, he had no problem with the cd drive, just the dvd drive
[05:30] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Interesting.  Yeah, I'm looking to see if I can find anything
[05:30] <M25> ieatnoobs: not sure, searching
[05:30] <ieatnoobs> M25: Kay.
[05:31] <harovali> is it possible to turn my cell phone into a modem for my notebook (through a data cable , not bluetooth) ?
[05:31] <RedSocrates> `Ned: In any case, things should be fine for you now, as long as you use ISO disks, which are pretty much standard.  If you ever end up with a UDF disk, for now you'll apparently have to switch the "iso9660,udf" options back around
[05:31] <`Ned> RedSocrates, yes, I tried googling for it too and couldn't find anything either
[05:31] <jon__> some webpage content (either flash or java) is not working properly, need help
[05:31] <RedSocrates> `Ned: So you might want to make a note of what we needed to change in case that problem comes up
[05:31] <Brando753> Guys, I have been getting a anoying partial upgrade that keeps popping up during log in or in the middle of a session http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6721/partialupgrade.png no matter how many times i hit partial upgrade it keeps popping up later, what can i do???
[05:31] <RedSocrates> `Ned: Thanks for following along with the experimentation. :) Glad we got it working
[05:31] <ieatnoobs> http://www.scribd.com/doc/28415/Why-I-fired-by-secretary-today
[05:32] <`Ned> RedSocrates, yes I will. again, thanks so much!
[05:32] <RedSocrates> `Ned: You're welcome.  Enjoy!
[05:32] <Severian> harovali, Yes.  I have seen people do that at our Linux group.
[05:32] <jon__> how do i tell if something is flash or java on a webpage?
[05:32] <Severian> harovali, Don't ask me how.  But, you asked if it was possible.
[05:32] <jon__> in firefox
[05:33] <khensthoth> jon_: right click.
[05:33] <harovali> Severian: thanks
[05:33] <harovali> Severian: by data cable right ?
[05:34] <jon__> right clicking does not give any hint, unless it is neither
[05:34] <Severian> harovali, Yes, by data cable.  Maybe I should add that the ability to do this varies from phone to phone, I am sure.
[05:34] <khensthoth> jon_:Then it's probably neither.
[05:34] <jon__> i am having a problem with web content, various websites, same problem, applets load initial screen, but after reloading it freezes
[05:34] <Wolf23> Help please! i am trying to install vmware workstation and it shows me a message that canoot be intalled when kvm enabled,anyone thanx
[05:34] <jon__> firefox does not freeze, but the applet stops changing
[05:35] <khensthoth> jon_:What website is it?
[05:35] <ieatnoobs> Anyone want to help me figure out why Bluetooth isn't working?
[05:35] <harovali> Severian: yes , thanks again
[05:35] <C-S-B> jon__: check the page source]
[05:35] <jon__> i had this with hulu, a few others, and the one i am trying to use now is http://www.viainfo.net/BusService/InteractiveMap.aspx
[05:35] <panfist> can anyone recommend an irssi guide for noobs
[05:36] <M25> panfist: /join #irssi
[05:36] <wolter> what can I do? now my mouse only works randomly when i plug it int..
[05:36] <M25> panfist: then ask away :)
[05:36] <wolter> in**
[05:36] <jon__> it loads, but when i click check box next to show stops, it shows a loading sign, then freezes
[05:36] <ieatnoobs> Bluetooth is dyyyiiiinnngg
[05:36] <wolter> but it works sometimes.. and it is detected by lsusb
[05:37] <umpop> anyone have word on the dmraid issue in 2.6.28?
[05:37] <Severian> wolter, My best guess would be a dying mouse.  But, it could be the USB port.
[05:37] <carpediem> jon__: that's purely Javascript, has no applet involved.
[05:37] <jon__> oh, but does it work for you, if you check bus stops?
[05:38] <wolter> Severian, nah.. its a new computer. Besides, it started happening since the night I upgraded to jaunty,
[05:38] <carpediem> jon__: I have the same problem, I think its either a) poorly coded, or b) not working in Firefox
[05:38] <carpediem> jon__: sec, I'll try it in webkit, see if its any better
[05:38] <Wolf23> Helpers i have installed windows xp and linux,and now when i do restart or maybe coz i have upgrade to 9.04 i cant see windows xp just ubuntu,anyone plz ?
[05:38] <wolter> Oop...