[00:29] <Guest78206> hola que tal
[00:30] <Bashing-om> !es | Guest78206
[00:30] <Guest78206> hi there
[00:32] <ramon_> hi there
[00:33] <ramon__> hi
[00:33] <iheartlinux> Correct channel to inqure about unity/compiz?
[00:35] <ramon__> ./join #opers_help
[00:36] <Bashing-om> iheartlinux: Here is a good place to start .
[00:38] <dckx> OerHeks: hi, remember my issues with multitouch? this worked: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/TouchpadSupport
[00:38] <iheartlinux> trying to compile compiz 9.13.1, 9.13.0 compiles fine with same cmake compile options. Fails at 10% and a reference to compiz_timer
[00:38] <dckx> OerHeks: just setting the properties manually using xinput set-prop
[00:40] <Oderus> someone was helping me with a wifi issue earlier, are you still here?
[00:42] <Druid05> Hello
[00:44] <Oderus> i think it was janran or something like that?
[00:45] <themyth> anyone here have any experience with using Ubuntu via 'crouton'?
[00:45] <bazhang> Oderus, just ask here, no need for special helpers
[00:45] <Oderus> bazhang: oh I just wanted to thank the person
[00:46] <bazhang> Oderus, /msg memoserv help on sending them a memo
[00:46] <Druid05> How can i allow a user to login trough ssh / allow to sudo but deny access to physical console? ( So no lock or tricky 'shell' )
[00:46] <Oderus> bazhang: ty
[00:46] <bazhang> np
[00:58] <Oderus> hello. I get disconnected from the internet (but not the network) when i'm uploading any faster than 20kb/s on 5G or regular wireless. I have created at thread on the forums containing much information. if anyone has any ideas how i can fix this please check it out and let me know. thanks! https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?71631-Wifi-Blues
[00:59] <Photon> Hi
[00:59] <Photon> I'm trying to find solutions for error 404 forbidden
[00:59] <Photon> but it's failed
[01:00] <Didact69> can someone point me to a guide to do NAT on 16.04 using IPTABLES?  I'm not sure if I need to do a masquerade command or what
[01:00] <bazhang> Photon, what version of ubuntu
[01:00] <kk4ewt> Photon, do you own the website in question
[01:01] <kk4ewt> 404 on webservers is a permission issue
[01:01] <dckx> hi guys, quick question. I made a simple script that sets the properties of my touchpad. I would like that script to load each time I boot into Ubuntu. Where should I save that script? Also, I read I have to execute this command: chmod 755 script_name.sh. Do I have to provide the directory where the script is saved? I do not quite work how bash works with directories
[01:01] <Photon> I'm installing Ubuntu 14.4 on raspberries pi
[01:01] <PipeItToDevNull> dckx, What DE are you using?
[01:01] <Photon> Right now I'm trying to install GUI on raspberry
[01:02] <PipeItToDevNull> Photon, Why not stick with Pixel
[01:02] <dckx> PipeItToDevNull: Ubuntu 16.04.. is that what you were asking?
[01:02] <Photon> What's Pixel? never heard about it
[01:02] <PipeItToDevNull> dckx, Plain Ubuntu?
[01:03] <dckx> PipeItToDevNull: yes
[01:03] <PipeItToDevNull> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html
[01:03] <Photon> idk PipeItToDevNull
[01:03] <Photon> How can I fix this error 404?
[01:04] <kk4ewt> Photon,  is the website your ?
[01:04] <kk4ewt> yours
[01:04] <Photon> no terminal error
[01:04] <kk4ewt> 404 is a server issue
[01:04] <Photon> 403 sorry
[01:04] <kk4ewt> still
[01:04] <Photon> 403 forbidden
[01:05] <kk4ewt> what url are you going to
[01:05] <Photon> E: failed to fetch
[01:05] <kk4ewt> what url are you going to
[01:06] <Photon> http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/g/gigolo/giogolo_0.4.2-1_armhf.deb 403 Forbidden
[01:07] <Photon> I was writing sorry for late
[01:07] <Photon> I'm using tablet
[01:08] <bazhang> #ubuntu-arm Photon
[01:09] <Photon> yes raspberry pi 2
[01:10] <bazhang> Photon, thats a channel to ask in ^
[01:11] <bazhang> #ubuntu-arm  <---- Photon
[01:11] <Photon> Thanks bazhang
[01:11] <bazhang> welcome
[01:12] <Oderus> Photon: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20160226/+build/9087980/+files/gigolo_0.4.2-1_armhf.deb
[01:13] <Bashing-om> Photon: It is there : http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/g/gigolo/  but real old ! gigolo-dbg_0.4.2-1_arm64.deb  2014-01-10 05:53240K .
[01:13] <Photon> ok thanks Oderus
[01:13] <Oderus> Photon: you're welcome
[01:13] <arog> is it possible to change shutdown so it sshs into another computer and shuts it down first?
[01:15] <Oderus> hello. I get disconnected from the internet (but not the network) when i'm uploading any faster than 20kb/s on 5G or regular wireless. I have created at thread on the forums containing much information. if anyone has any ideas how i can fix this please check it out and let me know. thanks! https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?71631-Wifi-Blues    Going /away for a short time.
[01:16] <bryceml> arog: just replace the shutdown executable with a script and setup ssh keys.  I would keep a backup of the shutdown command so you can fix it if you need to.
[01:16] <neldogz> will this command remove all temporary files out of all folders recursively?
[01:17] <neldogz> rm -rf *~
[01:18] <wastrel> temporary files have ~ at the end of the filename?
[01:18] <neldogz> wastrel, yes
[01:18] <Photon> I found problem seems those links are filtered in my country, how can use proxy for bypassing this error
[01:19] <arog> bryceml:  where is the shutdown executable?
[01:19] <arog> ahhh i need to make my own shutdown
[01:19] <arog> damn
[01:21] <wastrel> neldogz: find . -type f -name "*~" -delete
[01:21] <wastrel> neldogz: it doesn't ask for confirmation
[01:22] <wastrel> neldogz: run it without -delete  first if you want to see what it will remove
[01:23] <neldogz> wastrel, thank you very much
[01:23] <neldogz> worked beautifully!
[01:29] <BlitzerHound> What was the name of the channel for gaming on ubuntu/linux?
[01:29] <BlitzerHound> Someone told me it yesterday and I don't remember.
[01:30] <leptone> where is can I find the necessary drivers to install on my XPS 8900 (fresh install of 16.04)?
[01:30] <bazhang> BlitzerHound, the ubuntu steam one?
[01:30] <BlitzerHound> I don't know... maybe?
[01:30] <OerHeks> dckx, thanks!
[01:30] <bazhang> #ubuntu-steam BlitzerHound
[01:30] <leptone> sorry for the noob question, I'm googling but not having much luck
[01:30] <BlitzerHound> I'll try that one, thanks.
[01:34] <Bashing-om> leptone: The kernel generally takes care of " necessary drivers " . What drivers are you in reference to ?
[01:34] <leptone> Bashing-om, well i think i need one for the WIFI for instance
[01:34] <leptone> currently I do not see the the option to add a wifi network
[01:35] <leptone> in settings > network
[01:35] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers list or directly sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[01:35] <leptone> OerHeks, but I'm not on the internet as idont have the wifi driver
[01:35] <Bashing-om> leptone: Maybe: what shows in the "Additinal Drivers" utility ? many times drivers for WIFI are proprietary :(
[01:36] <OerHeks> leptone, then use the wired internet
[01:36] <leptone> OerHeks, unfortunately i don't have access to wired internet at the moment
[01:37] <leptone> Bashing-om, additional drivers utility?
[01:37] <leptone> where do i find that?
[01:38] <OerHeks> type 'driver' in dash and the tools shows up .. but needs internet too
[01:38] <Bashing-om> leptone: Once  ya have internet - the Additional drivers is in a tab within software sources .
[01:39] <marty__> can some one tell me how to kill a process in the terminal?
[01:39] <wastrel> do you know the pid
[01:39] <wastrel> kill <pid>
[01:40] <leptone> so it says its not using the NVIDIA GM206 GeForce GTX 960 and its also not using the Broadcom Corp BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
[01:40] <leptone> so obviously i want to tell it to start using those?
[01:40] <OerHeks> leptone, yes, with wired networking enabled
[01:40] <OerHeks> so move your pc to a place with a wire
[01:41] <marty__> whats pid stand for?
[01:41] <seednode> process ID
[01:42] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/180336/how-to-find-the-process-id-pid-of-a-running-terminal-program
[01:42] <leptone> it wouldn't let me use those drivers bc it says they are proprietary
[01:44] <OerHeks> leptone, yes, they are not on the iso.
[01:45] <BlitzerHound> Are they having the same problems that I was having on the wireless thing? Because I finally solved that and the stuff I needed was on the ISO.
[01:49] <longus_catus> How do I connect to WDS with NetworkManager on my ubuntu installation?
[01:50] <plgnet> jello
[01:50] <wastrel> what's wds
[01:50] <checkers> test
[01:52] <longus_catus> WDS is a non-standard but commonly implemented way of allowing access points to connect to each other - extra data for mac address matching is transferred instead of lost
[01:53] <leptone> OerHeks, found a long cable :)
[01:53] <leptone> when i ran the autoinstall
[01:54] <longus_catus> ALso, something called 4addr is related somehow.  Anyway, how do you configure that with networkmanager?
[01:54] <leptone> it is asking me which default display manager i want to use
[01:54] <leptone> gdm3 or lighted
[01:54] <leptone> is one preferable over the other?
[01:55] <OerHeks> leptone, strange question after a fresh install
[01:55] <leptone> OerHeks, :/
[01:55] <leptone> yeah whys that?
[01:57] <marty__> ok yes i have the pid, but if it says operation not permitted, is that because i just cant or is there a way around?
[01:58] <wedgie> marty__: if your current user doesn't own the process you'll have to use sudo
[01:58] <wedgie> sudo kill <pid>
[01:59] <marty__> ok last question, if i kill these and something goes wrong will a computer restart reset these values?
[01:59] <bryceml> arog: run 'which shutdown', mine's at /sbin/shutdown
[01:59] <wedgie> really depends on what it is... What process are you trying to kill?
[01:59] <marty__> mostly network stuff
[01:59] <wedgie> marty__: but most probably, yes
[02:03] <chilli0> Hello :)
[02:04] <chilli0> Can anyone please help me with fstab entries for smb?
[02:04] <chilli0> when I use mount -t the folder mounts fine, but when I try to use fstab it fails
[02:04] <chilli0> error: mount error(115): Operation now in progress
[02:08] <BlitzerHound> Guys!
[02:08] <BlitzerHound> Fallout works!
[02:08] <BlitzerHound> :D
[02:10] <Dr-007> i installed denyhosts. but via my network i can not ssh into my server anymore. what should i configure to get back in? (i also enabled fw ubuntu, but this was accepting 22 already. i checked via fw status)
[02:12] <implite> :) Im glad i could help you BlitzerHound
[02:12] <BlitzerHound> Same. :3
[02:12] <BlitzerHound> I've been wanting to play this for sooo long
[02:12] <rdad> what's up with this bug and how long does it take to fix something in ubuntu land?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1666421
[02:13] <rdad> wow, that was cool ... and fast
[02:14] <rickety> im using my neighbors wifi for my computer, and something has been taking his signal it seemd mbps were still running high with nothing connected, we changed the password several times, his playstation system began to act funny and now my system is too, a lady up stairs got her phone time disapeard, can any one offer some insite on this?
[02:15] <rdad> try #networking
[02:15] <wedgie> make sure the wifi isn't running WEP or WPS
[02:16] <wedgie> and stop using your neighbor's wifi, you mooch :)
[02:17] <rickety> wep and wps are highly hackable, and i have explain this to him but would that account for problems for software/hardware connected to the signal?
[02:17] <kings> so i am running on corebird via twitter. so i just click the video, but it say need  gst-plugins-bad>=1.6 but i don't see 1.6 in Synatic
[02:17] <rickety> i pay half lol wedgie
[02:18] <wedgie> rickety: it could if some third party was on it and torrenting as hard as they could. But i thik rdad is right, this is a better topic for #networking as it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:18] <Bashing-om> !info gst-plugins-bad xenial
[02:19] <rickety> thanks wedgie, half the reason i brought it up here is im using ubuntu 16.04, why is my system acting funny?
[02:21] <wedgie> rickety: don't know. You're going to have to be a lot more specific about what "funny" means
[02:22] <Squarism> Are there apps that work like launcher - that slide from the edge of the screen on by pressing a key or moving mouse agains it?
[02:22] <BlitzerHound> So I had one other question. Whenever I go into something that's fullscreen, when I exit fullscreen I can't do anything. Everything is just stuck on whatever graphic was just showing and I can't click, power down properly, or switch to another program via alt+tab. Is that something I could possibly fix?
[02:22] <rickety> the internet i understand its not signal, things like the terminal wont open untill i reboot 2-3 times vlc and standard videos crashes often, today i had to restart 4 times just to get to the os
[02:23] <rickety> i know funny is general but ya know funny, its ubuntu, it really shouldnt right?
[02:24] <wedgie> rickety: well, kinda sounds like hardware. But to rule that out, boot off of a livecd/usb. If that works ok then it's probably your install. If that also acts funny, then i would suspect hardware
[02:25] <BlitzerHound> Is there a keyboard shortcut that's similar to ctrl+alt+del like windows has in case the system freezes?
[02:25] <mustmodify> I'm working on a hackathon. I have a linux AWS instance. I needed to resize the partition. Was 8GB now 100.
[02:25] <mustmodify> Can someone look this over and tell me whether I've `sudo parted` correctly?
[02:25] <mustmodify> Or if so, how to correct?
[02:25] <mustmodify> https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/e12d0f0af247e2e601cdfad90b9f2f0b
[02:27] <rickety> wedgie, ive tried live, it must be hardware then, ive had 2 drives ( fairly new ) done kuput fail on me, with-in the last 3 months, this must be something im doing wrong?
[02:27] <rickety> i guess that isnt ubuntu, can you direct me to further by chance?
[02:28] <wedgie> #hardware is a thing, i think
[02:28] <rickety> thanks
[02:28] <kenrin> ##hardware that is
[02:29] <NiteRaidah2> having some difficulties in figuring out how to boot a windows 10 iso file to my usb.  I've done some research on WinUSB/this fork https://github.com/slacka/WinUSB, is this valid?
[02:29] <mustmodify> if no one can help I'll just type `quit` and deal with whatever happens. But if someone's looking, please let me know and I'll wait. :P
[02:30] <cfhowlett> NiteRaidah2, booting usb is outside of the ubuntu support range.  ask ##windows
[02:31] <NiteRaidah2> righto.
[02:32] <Bashing-om> mustmodify: TBH, running away as hard as I can ! " Warning: Partition /dev/xvda1 is being used. "
[02:32] <kenrin> mustmodify: it looks like you deleted it and recreated it,  not resized anything
[02:38] <rickety> cfhowlett ive also tried doing simmilar things as usb booting, ive had success in doing so with linux only, i havnt tried windows, is what your saying is that windows is not usb bootable?
[02:39] <cfhowlett> rickety, I'm saying that this is the *ubuntu* support channel.  for windows support, ask ##windows.
[02:42] <Dr-007> yeah,. i deleted all my files and directories in /var/log to now understand that i shouldn't have done that
[02:42] <rickety> cf, ah ok, if i were to do a usb boot project for windows os, im using ubuntu, i have unetbootin but unetbootin for some reason does not like the windows iso or something, can you recomend another bootloader such as unetbootin, before i go to the windows page?
[02:42] <Dr-007> i thought they'd get created again on reboot
[02:42] <sanjovies> help please
[02:43] <sanjovies> my name is santiago and i have lubuntu 16.10
[02:43] <hggdh> Dr-007: yes,they should. unless you deleted /var/log as well
[02:44] <sanjovies> No sound from speakers but headphones work
[02:44] <sanjovies> help me
[02:44] <sanjovies> please
[02:45] <sanjovies> pleaseeeee
[02:45] <Dr-007> i'm having trouble starting mysql. apparmor="DENIED"
[02:45] <sanjovies> anyone
[02:47] <sanjovies> can you help me comunitty??
[02:47] <sanjovies> No sound from speakers but headphones work
[02:48] <sanjovies> hello?
[02:48] <Dr-007> did you try turning it on and off again?
[02:48] <sanjovies> thousaand of times
[02:48] <hggdh> please sanjovies: wait. Somebody will eventually know about what you are talking about (I don't)
[02:48] <Dr-007> hggdh, i just checked it out. most dirs were created. but apache i had to do manually. mysqld is still not working with me. apparmor is denying it to start
[02:49] <sanjovies> No sound from speakers but headphones work
[02:49] <Dr-007> check in dmesg if you recognize your soundcard and/or speakers
[02:49] <kenrin> I'd need way more information to even begin to suggest a fix sanjovies
[02:50] <kenrin> Like was it working before,  what sound card is it,  are you using pulseaudio,  alsa,  did you attempt to see if anything was muted in the options
[02:50] <hggdh> Dr-007: check what apparmor is complaining about
[02:52] <sanjovies> when i increase headsets volume in alsamixer speakers work, but every time i restart it reverses
[02:52] <sanjovies> its anonoying
[02:53] <Dr-007> what does apparmor do anyway?
[02:53] <sanjovies> AppArmor ("Application") is a Linux kernel  security module that allows the system administrator to restrict  programs' capabilities with per-program profiles. Profiles can allow  capabilities like network access, raw socket access, and the permission  to read, write, or execute files on matching paths.
[02:54] <sanjovies> Wikipedia
[02:54] <kenrin> Is it alsa or pulseaudio you are using ?   I know alsa has a Pre-Amp you can adjust to boost the volume in the config
[02:54] <sanjovies> alsa
[02:55] <sanjovies> i use alsa
[02:55] <kenrin> If it works after you adjust it until reboot...
[02:55] <usurp_> hi all
[02:56] <kenrin> "alsactl store" will save the settings
[02:56] <energizer> x
[02:57] <sanjovies> I'll try it now and think I had to reinstall ubuntu
[02:57] <acheron-a> sanjovies, it wouldn't hurt to delete everything in home/.config/pluse and reboot and then set you volumes from the system settings panel
[02:58] <sanjovies> ill be back in a few moments
[02:58] <acheron-a> pulse i mean on that dir
[03:03] <wastrel> it's cold in my land
[03:03] <kenrin> Well I'm out.  If the alsactl store doesn't work you'll need to specify where the file actually is.  I think under /var/lib/alsa/asound.state or ~/.config/asound.state
[03:03] <hggdh> wastrel: it will pass. Climate warming and all
[03:04] <underd0g> hello world
[03:06] <Didact69> greetings
[03:06] <usurp_> sup
[03:12] <CAPITANOOO> https://github.com/capitanooo/lollipoppe
[03:13] <lysa> SUS CHRIST
[03:14] <cfhowlett> lysa, channel topic is ubuntu support.  other topics belong in other channels, not here.  thank you.
[03:15] <lysa> Sorry!! was in the wrong chat
[03:17] <sanjovies> HELLO I come with bad news I delete the folder press and also execute the command with sudo, and there was no luck. When the headseths restart it returned to 0
[03:18] <sanjovies> For the new the problem is alsa resets its configuration * we want to avoid that
[03:19] <sanjovies> Hello???
[03:20] <sanjovies> 1789 persons and not one conected??
[03:20] <sanjovies> some one please
[03:21] <sanjovies> hello??
[03:21] <sanjovies> i have a problem ]
[03:22] <sanjovies> someone?
[03:22] <sanjovies> someoneeeeeeeeeeeeeee_
[03:22] <sanjovies> someoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[03:23] <sanjovies> someeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[03:23] <sanjovies> e
[03:23] <di0_> keep calm little padawan.
[03:23] <sanjovies> yes my master
[03:23] <sanjovies> can you help me di0 jedi?
[03:24] <PipeItToDevNull> Calm your self
[03:24] <sanjovies> I'm going to calm down when someone tells me if he's going to help me
[03:25] <sanjovies> please
[03:25] <cfhowlett> sanjovies, that's not the way it works ... calm down or you will be ignored
[03:25] <sanjovies> the problem is alsa resets its configuration * we want to avoid that *alsamixer
[03:25] <di0_> ask soon, instead of asking for help, padawan.
[03:27] <sanjovies> the problem is alsa resets its configuration * we want to avoid that *alsamixer
[03:28] <sanjovies> the speakers work with headseth volume
[03:28] <sanjovies> every time i restart my pc i have to increase hedseth volume
[03:28] <sanjovies> that is anoyying
[03:30] <sanjovies> thanks for ignoring
[03:30] <di0_> sanjovies: try alsactl store
[03:30] <sanjovies> I already tried it, it did not work
[03:31] <BlitzerHound> Is there a reason why my system would completely freeze up when I put youtube into fullscreen?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> BlitzerHound, many possibilities.
[03:31] <BlitzerHound> Like, it'll play the video, but then when I exit fullscreen, I can't do anything at all
[03:31] <sanjovies> blitzer how many ram do you have
[03:31] <sanjovies> __
[03:31] <sanjovies> ??
[03:31] <BlitzerHound> 990MB
[03:32] <sanjovies> what distro ??
[03:32] <sanjovies> and what version??
[03:32] <abatcha> i am using vlc for ubuntu , please tell me why does my mouse pointer disappear upon using vlc player
[03:32] <BlitzerHound> What is a distro?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> BlitzerHound, very minimal.  suggest you 1. consider a lighter ubuntu, e.g. lubuntu or xubuntu and 2. increase your ram
[03:33] <BlitzerHound> And I'm using version 16.10
[03:33] <mystified> need some help guys how to configure fstab to auto mount drives internal & external
[03:33] <BlitzerHound> I have another laptop, but I need a charger for it, so for now I just have to make this work.
[03:33] <sanjovies> in lubuntu you need at least 1 gb for yutube facebook drive etc
[03:34] <di0_> sanjovies: did you use sudo command?
[03:40] <abatcha> linux diastro is Linux distributiom software e.g Fedora, Redhat, Ubuntu, mint
[03:41] <BlitzerHound> How do I update video drivers?
[03:42] <cfhowlett> BlitzerHound, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[03:42] <BlitzerHound> Thanks
[03:42] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[03:42] <abatcha> sudo apt-get update
[03:43] <cfhowlett> apt is the replacement to apt-get, abatcha
[03:43] <ozcanesen> hello inside docker ubuntu xenial image, when i open file with nano, i see square charachter with question mark inside, so basically locale is not utf-8 (or maybe unicode), how can i fix that?
[03:44] <ozcanesen> locale shows POSIX to everything
[03:44] <ozcanesen> i tried locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
[03:45] <cfhowlett> no sudo, no locale ozcanesen ...
[03:46] <ozcanesen> cfhowlett, but i am root?
[03:46] <cfhowlett> you should not be root on an ubuntu system
[03:46] <cfhowlett> !root
[03:47] <abatcha> cfhowlett, yes it works
[03:47] <abatcha> i have problem with VirtualBox install on Ubuntu, Ubuntu is hosting windows10
[03:48] <abatcha> i cant access my usb and harddisk partion on windows 19
[03:49] <ozcanesen> cfhowlett, but this is a docker container of course i can be root, that is the all point of it
[03:50] <cfhowlett> I can't advise about docker as I have no experience, but sudo is the ubuntu default.  settings things up while you are root leads to unpredictable results.  and dockers respond to sudo, do they not?
[03:51] <cfhowlett> abatcha, edit your machine settings, specifically Ports > USB and Shared Folders
[03:53] <coder_> Hey
[03:54] <coder_> !
[03:55] <abatcha> cfhowlett but did not work
[03:56] <abatcha> cfhowlett i did edit machine settings but it did not work
[03:57] <leptone> i have windows installed on a SSD in a XPS 8900 and ubuntu installed on another SSD
[03:57] <leptone> the windows drive does show in Bios (whatever i boot into when i hold F12) or in Grub
[03:57] <leptone>  *legacy menu
[03:58] <leptone> if i select the windows drive in legacy boot "selected boot device failed."
[03:58] <leptone> this happens if i try to boot the ubuntu drive from legal as well
[03:58] <leptone> does anyone know whats going on here?
[03:58] <leptone> how can i get the windows drive to show as an option in UEFI Boot / Grub
[03:59] <rickety> i have a wifi chip in my computer and then i run a usb antenna, when i plug in an ethernet cable, why does my antenna signal disapear?
[04:07] <rdad> abatcha, your mouse is suppose to disappear if you don't move it while vlc is playing!
[04:12] <rickety> any one here ok with me running a couple basic irc commands using there name for practice??
[04:13] <cfhowlett> rickety, create your channel and do it there, please
[04:13] <rickety> oh ok i have more to learn thank you
[04:13] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[04:43] <leptone> I'm having trouble getting a dual boot ubuntu 16.04 / windows 10 system setup
[04:43] <leptone> i bought the computer and then installed ubuntu on the disk that was in it
[04:43] <leptone> i bought and installed another SSD and installed windows 10 on this disk
[04:44] <leptone> the problem is I can't boot into windows except from the install media
[05:00] <lucas-arg> i dont know why i was having problems with my touchpad
[05:00] <lucas-arg> it stoped working randomly
[05:02] <lucas-arg> in archlinux i had to install a package from aur called xf86-input-synaptics-led
[05:02] <lucas-arg> i dont see any package like that in ubuntu
[05:02] <lucas-arg> any solution to this problem??
[05:03] <lucas-arg> if there is any?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:15] <gogeta> greetings plebs
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: welcome, how can we help you?
[05:19] <gogeta> i be good
[05:24] <neutron_> Hi
[05:25] <neutron_> Can anyone tell me when can I expect the next LTS release?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> neutron_: 18.04
[05:25] <neutron_> When?
[05:25] <baizon> neutron_: 18.04
[05:25] <Ben64> ubuntu releases are yy.mm
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> neutron_: 18 04 :p
[05:26] <baizon> neutron_: LTS is every 2 years
[05:26] <neutron_> I am 12.04 is ending support
[05:26] <neutron_> and I cannot wait that long
[05:26] <Ben64> neutron_: yep, 12+5=17
[05:26] <hateball> neutron_: you can upgrade to 14.04 or 16.04
[05:26] <Ben64> you know there are two newer LTS than 12.04
[05:27] <neutron_> I have this heavy duty machine
[05:27] <mutante> neutron_: early 2018. every 2 years. https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[05:27] <neutron_> I cannot upgrade distro frequently
[05:27] <neutron_> I cannot risk breaking things
[05:27] <Ben64> neutron_: good thing you're on LTS then...
[05:27] <mutante> that's what LTS is for :)
[05:28] <neutron_> So, I can upgrade to 16.04. When does its support end?
[05:28] <mutante> neutron_: yea, it's really time to replace Precise. April 27
[05:28] <Ben64> 16+5=21
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !releasenotes | neutron_
[05:29] <neutron_> Is there any chance that 12.04 will be extended till April 2018 so that I can directly jump to 18.04?
[05:29] <mutante> not sure if you want to jump to that in one step or multiple steps though
[05:29] <Ben64> neutron_: no
[05:29] <mutante> usually i would just go one step at a time
[05:29] <neutron_> You sure that 12.04 support won't be extended?
[05:29] <gogeta> set your updater to lts only then let it do its thing
[05:29] <Ben64> neutron_: yes and you can't skip anyway
[05:29] <gogeta> no it whont
[05:30] <neutron_> 10.04 was extended by almost 2 years.
[05:30] <mutante> go to trusty (14.04) first
[05:30] <neutron_> I guess I will have to install 16.04
[05:30] <neutron_> 14.04?
[05:30] <neutron_> why?
[05:31] <Ben64> 12.04 can only upgrade to 14.04
[05:31] <neutron_> So, I have to upgrade to 14.04 and then go 16.04?
[05:31] <gogeta> yep then let it go to 16.04
[05:31] <Ben64> if you want 16.04 yes
[05:31] <mutante> because you might not want to have to adjust so many things at once. depends what services you are running. for example adjustments for Apache 2.2 -> 2.4 you need because of syntax changes
[05:31] <gogeta> i dunno what your trying not to brake
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> neutron_: and there is always clean install if you want...
[05:32] <neutron_> this is going to be a huge pain and a lot of downtime
[05:32] <neutron_> And I have only 30 days left.
[05:33] <mutante> how many servers?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> neutron_: next time dont wait too long?
[05:33] <gogeta> i dunno what your trying not to mess up
[05:33] <gogeta> yea should not let your systems fall that far behind
[05:34] <mutante> if you have a large cluster, cant you reinstall them one by one without much downtime by depooling one, reinstall, repool.. next server
[05:35] <neutron_> Thank you very much.
[05:35] <neutron_> I'll start my upgrade. Have a nice day, folks.
[05:37] <K-arch> bet ya that doesn't work 10.04 to 16.04 lol wow
[05:37] <gogeta> sys admins lol 10 years to upgrade and they wait till the last second
[05:39] <K-arch> uname -a  Linux unknown linux-2.1.102 #1 SMP Sun Mar 26 14:21:00 CEST 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:39] <gogeta> lol
[06:10] <geez[m]> Well my laptop started at 12.10 (I believe) and has been upgraded through every release since
[06:10] <geez[m]> I bet you can do that with 10.04 as well
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !who | geez[m]
[06:12] <geez[m]> !tab
[06:12] <K-arch> !tab
[06:13] <geez[m]> Got it thanks
[06:13] <K-arch> K-arch! Hi self.
 hi self
[06:16] <K-arch> hum irc
[06:25] <majnoon> this MAY be dumb question :: kk isp modem sets main ethernet to <IP_ADDRESS> is it ok to set other ethernet card to like <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> majnoon: try the ##networking channel mate
[06:28] <majnoon> asking every where :P :D
[06:28] <K-arch> majnoon! Should be OK , try and see if it works, you usually get about 30 IP addresses form a cable modem DHCP server
[06:33] <Prototip> majnoon: what is the other ethernet connected to.. you do not give much info.. in short.. it's fine
[06:40] <this_self> Hi guys! Need help to install ubuntu 16.04.2 to small laptop with EFI 32bit working on Intel Atom Z3735g
[06:41] <this_self> I found bootia32.efi file and put it on my USB flashdrive into /EFI/BOOT/ to have ability to run ubuntu from USB
[06:41] <this_self> but during installation I obtained a error that unable to install efi-32 to my drive...
[06:44] <K-arch> this_self! Did you boot the usb stick in uefi mode ?
[06:45] <this_self> Of course. Using rufus I have wrote ISO with ubuntu 16.04.2 amd64 in UEFI mode. My laptop see only USB with efi32 file
[06:46] <this_self> Right now I repeat installing ubuntu... and try to snap that error and put here for detailed description..
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> this_self: talk to EriC^^ he's our uefi wizard
[06:48] <this_self> :D Thanks guys! I'll try to write him:)
[06:48] <EriC^^> this_self: try to run the installer with "ubiquity -b" then manually install grub afterwards
[06:49] <ducasse> EriC^^: you ninja'd me! :-P
[06:50] <EriC^^> lol
[06:50] <ducasse> getting slow in my old age :)
[06:50] <this_self> EriC^^, thanks! I'll try it. Also I found that I need grub-efi-ia32 package.
[06:51] <EriC^^> this_self: yup, remember to chroot to the install first, then install that package
[06:52] <this_self> I thought that I need to install it before run ubiquity... Also I saw that after installing this package grub-common was reconfigured. I thought that it add support 32bit efi.... So thanks for this description. Now I'll try to run installer with -b parameter and install grub manually
[07:19] <lesshaste> is there an OS X channel on IRC?
[07:19] <akik> anybody know how i can set "don't show window contents while moving" in unity?
[07:19] <ducasse> !alis | lesshaste ask in #freenode next time
[07:19] <realies> does ubuntu ship with intel iris pro drivers?
[07:23] <ducasse> realies: pretty sure it does
[07:35] <fyan-2017-rava> hello
[07:35] <fyan-2017-rava> i am a new ubuntu
[07:35] <realies> ducasse, thanks, will try use it alongside the dedicated one
[07:36] <fyan-2017-rava> i using it for my studying
[07:36] <fyan-2017-rava> i am a IT student
[07:47] <javi404> any devs awake?
[07:47] <javi404> found a bug in ubuntu
[07:47] <javi404> 30mb/s read from SSD
[07:47] <javi404> Windows 500
[07:48] <javi404> Fedora 500
[07:48] <javi404> ubuntu 30
[07:48] <javi404> Linux ubuntu-ThinkPad-E460 4.8.0-45-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 24 11:46:39 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:52] <ducasse> javi404: you sure the partition(s) are not misaligned for some reason, for example?
[07:53] <javi404> ducasse
[07:53] <javi404> ducasse: going to link you to a post
[07:54] <javi404> ducasse: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/62fvr4/new_crucial_ssd_slow_but_only_in_ubuntu/dfn48cg/
[07:54] <javi404> ducasse: I have isolated it to ubuntu
[07:57] <javi404> ducasse: ?
[07:57] <javi404> it it time to just replace with fedora?
[07:57] <javi404> system doesn't seem slow but that is because i put in 16GB of ram
[07:57] <javi404> but 30MB/s is like USB disk performance
[07:58] <ducasse> try googling your disk model number + ubuntu, see if others report the same.
[07:59] <javi404> I checked firmware, it is up to date
[08:00] <javi404> ducasse: googled, nothing of note
[08:00] <javi404> CT525MX300SSD1
[08:00] <lorddoskias1> hello, i'd like to have dnsmasq started with the following configuration: dnsmasq --interface=br0 --bind-interfaces --dhcp-range=<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:00] <javi404> it's ubuntu or the kernel
[08:00] <javi404> pick one
[08:00] <lorddoskias1> where should i config that? in systemd or somewhere else
[08:01] <javi404> lorddoskias1: what are you trying to accomplish?
[08:01] <lorddoskias1> i have an internal  bridged network for my vm's and i want to have a dhcp server that services them so i don't have to config them manually when i spin them up
[08:02] <lorddoskias1> so i want to use it only on br0
[08:02] <javi404> bridge is not bridged to a real nic/lan?
[08:02] <lorddoskias1> nope
[08:02] <lorddoskias1> it's internal bridge only
[08:04] <javi404> i haven't used dnsmasq in a bit but you don't have to do anything in systemd except make sure the service is set to start
[08:04] <javi404> then have it listen on the ip on the bridge
[08:04] <javi404> assign an ip on the bridge interface if you haven't
[08:04] <lorddoskias1> i have
[08:04] <lorddoskias1> okay, i got it
[08:04] <lorddoskias1> thanks
[08:04] <javi404> np
[08:10] <blackflow> lorddoskias1: I was wondering, isn't that the default with libvirt? internal network and auto assigned IPs?
[08:10] <lorddoskias1> i don't use libvirt
[08:16] <blackflow> lorddoskias1: what do you use?
[08:16] <lorddoskias1> blackflow very long qemu-system-x86_64 command lines :D
[08:19] <blackflow> lorddoskias1: but that just uses libvirt, doesn't it? at any rate, you don't need to set up a bridge manually, the default for qemu is the same
[08:19] <lorddoskias1> default is SLIRP
[08:19] <blackflow> lorddoskias1: eg. -net nic, -net user
[08:21] <blackflow> hmm, indeed, slirp
[08:21] <refill> hi
[08:21] <refill> how do I use the linux desktop as a router?
[08:21] <refill> Is it possible?
[08:22] <javi404> refill: yes
[08:22] <Didact69> iptables
[08:22] <javi404> refill: google
[08:22] <refill> which aritcle
[08:22] <refill> Didact69: how
[08:23] <blackflow> refill: for example, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[08:23] <cpaelzer> javi404: on your slow disk I wonder if that might be some odd issue with how hdparm issues I/O and the kernel does default attribs of the device
[08:23] <cpaelzer> javi404: would you be open to try an mkfs of your choice (most basic ext4 would do) and run fio with /usr/share/doc/fio/examples/ssd-test.fio against it
[08:24] <cpaelzer> javi404: that already provides far more insight to latencies and such
[08:24] <javi404> cpaelzer: im open to testing things
[08:24] <cpaelzer> javi404: from there one can tune fio according to theories we come up and/or run blktrace along to see where things fail
[08:24] <javi404> cpaelzer: but high level question, why is it only in ubuntu i see this?
[08:24] <javi404> no prob on fedora or winblows
[08:25] <cpaelzer> javi404: it could be default attribs/features of the disks based on the kernel version
[08:25] <javi404> ah
[08:25] <javi404> i see
[08:25] <javi404> what can i see, tune live?
[08:25] <cpaelzer> javi404: do you test ubuntu from the live cd as well as the F25?
[08:25] <javi404> i installed ubuntu as a 2nd os before i noticed
[08:25] <javi404> but i can try the live cd and report back
[08:26] <javi404> live fedora cd no prob
[08:26] <cpaelzer> javi404: yeah, pastebin the full fio result or so
[08:26] <cpaelzer> javi404: from there we can try to think about it
[08:26] <javi404> cpaelzer:  i need to make space if i am roing to run mkfs
[08:27] <javi404> or blow the install away
[08:27] <javi404> or use gparted to shrink parts
[08:27] <javi404> is there an easier way?
[08:27] <javi404> there has to be something in /sys/ i can look at
[08:27] <cpaelzer> javi404: I might come up with a fio template that is read only and works on the device
[08:28] <cpaelzer> javi404: is the disk holding your ubuntu and windows in partitions each?
[08:28] <javi404> cpaelzer: yes, both
[08:28] <javi404> hdparm -tT confirms it is only in ubuntu that is installed where the problem is
[08:28] <javi404> fresh install from 2 days ago
[08:28] <javi404> 16.10
[08:28] <cpaelzer> javi404: well for the start you might just run fio vs /tmp then
[08:28] <cpaelzer> javi404: you have an FS
[08:29] <javi404> FS, file servers?
[08:29] <javi404> yes
[08:29] <cpaelzer> FS => filesystem
[08:29] <javi404> i have like 15TB available by NFS/CIFS if needed
[08:29] <cpaelzer> fine without it
[08:30] <cpaelzer> since your / is on the disk already you might just run ...
[08:30] <cpaelzer> mkdir -p /mount-point-of-ssd; fio /usr/share/doc/fio/examples/ssd-test.fio
[08:30] <cpaelzer> the first is the default path that template runs against
[08:30] <cpaelzer> feel free to modify
[08:30] <javi404> taking a look
[08:31] <javi404> i havent used fio befoe
[08:31] <javi404> before
[08:31] <cpaelzer> it is the de-facto disk I/O perf tool used by the kernel devs and most perf analysts
[08:31] <cpaelzer> there are specials for other occassions, but this is the most one-stop-for-all tool
[08:33] <javi404> cpaelzer: testing now
[08:34] <cpaelzer> I test on my older ssd as well so we can compare if needed
[08:34] <javi404> looks like it wants to write a 10GB file, its running.
[08:34] <cpaelzer> yes it lays out 10G and then does various read write patterns on it
[08:34] <javi404> yeah, i mean i get almost 500MB/s everywhere on ssd maxing out SATA
[08:34] <javi404> lets see how it runs
[08:34] <javi404> but i used dd to read files and it shits to 30MB/s
[08:35] <javi404> windows and fedora work ok
[08:35] <javi404> i think it is something in the kernel
[08:35] <javi404> we will see
[08:35] <cpaelzer> ack
[08:37] <cpaelzer> javi404: should look like that more or less then http://paste.ubuntu.com/24286786/
[08:38] <javi404> cpaelzer: going to run iotop as well to watch this file wrie
[08:38] <javi404> write* still going
[08:38] <cpaelzer> javi404: lets settle on one of the workloads first, the default is running 4 polarizing I/O patterns
[08:38] <javi404> k
[08:38] <cpaelzer> javi404: on the results we can settle on one to look into and then iotop/blktrace might become our friend
[08:41] <javi404> looks like it has about 3-4 min left
[08:41] <javi404> cpaelzer: ^
[08:41] <pchoo> Hi all, at work I use my laptop with two external monitors.  When I lock it, the monitors will go to sleep shortly after, however a few seconds after they go to sleep, they wake up again, and continue in this cycle.  Any idea how I can find out what is causing them to wake up?
[08:42] <ikevin> pchoo, does it append with the laptop screen when external monitor is unpluged?
[08:43] <pchoo> ikevin: gimme a sec, I'll check
[08:44] <pchoo> No, only with the external monitors
[08:44] <ikevin> are they connected over hdmi?
[08:44] <pchoo> One is HDMI, and the other is VGA
[08:44] <pchoo> I'll connect them one at a time and try
[08:44] <javi404> cpaelzer: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24286802/
[08:44] <javi404> got results
[08:44] <javi404> learning to read them
[08:44] <javi404> making a drink too
[08:44] <javi404> becuase its almost 5am
[08:44] <javi404> so fuck it
[08:45] <JuPaname> install faille
[08:45] <JuPaname> error grup
[08:45] <pchoo> Ok, it didn't happen when I had just the VGa monitor connected, I've just added the HDMI monitor
[08:45] <JuPaname> in UEFI 32bits
[08:45] <ikevin> pchoo, if you can, try to disable ecc on the hdmi monitor
[08:45] <pchoo> ikevin: ok, thanks, it just happened when I added the HDMI monitor, so it's definitely that one
[08:46] <ikevin> pchoo, maybe the monitor send a signal to the pc over hdmi
[08:46] <pchoo> ikevin: thanks, I'll look into that :)
[08:47] <ikevin> you welcome
[08:47] <cpaelzer> javi404: the good thing is that the most simple workload is already crappy slow - good since now you can debug from here
[08:48] <cpaelzer> javi404: I'd focus on seq-read then, as long as that isn't fast nothing will be and it is at 12 MB/s in your case
[08:48] <javi404> I don't even know where to start
[08:48] <javi404> cpaelzer: exactly
[08:48] <javi404> seq should be the fastest shit
[08:48] <javi404> this is not my first ubuntu bug
[08:49] <javi404> i should probably file a bug report
[08:49] <javi404> but im lazy
[08:49] <javi404> i guess i can file report, and just post links
[08:49] <javi404> we know it isn't hardware
[08:49] <javi404> has to be kernel and/or ubuntu
[08:52] <cpaelzer> javi404: ok you have a secondary latency peak
[08:52] <javi404> ?
[08:53] <cpaelzer> not yet sure what causes this, but that is what you/I/the bug report has to find out
[08:53] <cpaelzer> javi404: I'll guide you on the result data
[08:53] <cpaelzer> javi404: if you look at seq-read other than the averages it splits several latency stats
[08:54] <javi404> looking
[08:54] <cpaelzer> javi404: there you see that ~40% of your requests are relatively fast at 50-100 µsec that is not perfect but kind of ok
[08:54] <cpaelzer> javi404: then there is nothing for a while but then there is a second  spike with 49.20% of your requests taking ~4 ms
[08:54] <cpaelzer> javi404: that is what is slowing you down
[08:55] <javi404> cpaelzer: but why only in this os?
[08:55] <cpaelzer> since this is already direct+async I/O very likely a bug in the kernel version - you said you are running yakkety right?
[08:55] <blackflow> I wonder if that has a common problem with my issue of dd-ing to USB grinding the interactivity down to a halt
[08:56] <javi404> blackflow: could be
[08:56] <cpaelzer> blackflow: x86 is notoriously bad ad separating I/O from the rest of the workload
[08:56] <pchoo> ikevin: I disabled the source scanning on the monitor, i.e. set it to HDMI, and it prevented the monitors from waking up when they slept, but at the same time, when I manually work the computer, i.e. moved the mouse, the monitor did not come back on at all, and it was turned off in the display settings
[08:56] <blackflow> because Debian 9 on the very same machine doesn't have those issues
[08:56] <javi404> cpaelzer: let me check again kernel
[08:56] <cpaelzer> blackflow: you can throttle that I/O so that the IRQs are somewhat in shape and get off without issues
[08:56] <javi404> 4.8.0-45-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 24 11:46:39 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:57] <cpaelzer> blackflow: the same is true for so many - like background indexers filling up I/O
[08:57] <javi404> yes yakkety
[08:57] <blackflow> cpaelzer: yes, when I use nice -n 19 it's okay. But still, Debian on that same machine doesn't have those issues
[08:57] <butterfl1> ?
[08:57] <javi404> blackflow: seems like you are confirming the bug i found
[08:57] <cpaelzer> blackflow: sometimes that is the price of one requesting faster I/O, bug gets fixed and the fast I/O then kills interactivity
[08:57] <cpaelzer> blackflow: but I don't know your details - and unfortunately it is different every time
[08:58] <cpaelzer> javi404: ok that is the stock yakkety one
[08:58] <javi404> yep
[08:58] <javi404> like i said
[08:58] <javi404> clean install from 2 days ago
[08:58] <javi404> nothing custom
[08:58] <blackflow> cpaelzer: I see. but perhaps it's time to separate desktop from server kernels then? fast IRQ, low Hz for server, high Hz and interactivity for desktop? :)
[08:58] <cpaelzer> javi404: If we assume it is a kernel bug that is the first you'll be asked anyway - so could you try  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[08:59] <cpaelzer> javi404: I'd recommend trying 4.10 and 4.4.58
[08:59] <cpaelzer> with that data at hand you could un-lazify and do a bug report then
[09:00] <cpaelzer> just rerun the fio with those two extra kernels and report all three results in a kernel bug
[09:00] <javi404> cpaelzer: ill go with newest mainline kernel
[09:00] <javi404> but it is going to take me some time
[09:00] <cpaelzer> try sometihng that isn't rc level
[09:00] <javi404> little drunk at the moment
[09:00] <javi404> ok will do
[09:00] <blackflow> lol
[09:00] <javi404> blackflow: its 5am
[09:00] <javi404> and i have a drink in my hand fuck it
[09:01] <javi404> cpaelzer: thanks for your hep
[09:01] <javi404> help
[09:01] <javi404> ill go mainline kernel tomorrow morning
[09:01] <javi404> or in a few hours i mean
[09:02] <cpaelzer> javi404: if you want subscribe "paelzer" on launchpad once you report a bug
[09:02] <cpaelzer> always love perf issues as an old hobby
[09:02] <javi404> me too
[09:02] <javi404> im a hardware, kind of guy
[09:02] <cpaelzer> and when reporting mind https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Bugs
[09:02] <javi404> got it
[09:03] <cpaelzer> on that end blackflow as a totally non helpful hint, that I/O stalling would not happen on a mainframe, although to get an USB disk there needs a lot of code not legally released I think
[09:03] <cpaelzer> and might be too expensive
[09:04] <blackflow> cpaelzer: yearning for the glorious days of mainframes? :)
[09:05] <cpaelzer> it was nice, but then for thta price it is supposed to be right :-)
[09:05] <cpaelzer> and since I neither have a porsche nor a pool it seems some things are nice but too pricy for me
[09:06] <blackflow> :)
[09:11] <sun13zenith> hello everybody
[09:13] <Doow> Hi, I don't know if this is a problem in ssh, ubuntu or cygwin. Either way, the problem is that I use ssh in cygwin to connect to a number of different ubuntu servers. What they all have in common is that after a while of inactivitity they sometimes hang. No connection lost or anything. They just stops accepting input. I can't even abort the current connection.
[09:14] <blackflow> Doow: if you can't abort connection, it sounds like a problem on the client side
[09:16] <Doow> blackflow, you might be right. I might be trying to interrupt the 'wrong' way. I'm not sure what decides to close if I do e.g. ctrl+d.
[09:18] <blackflow> Doow: well, openssh client can abort by typing ~. and hitting enter
[09:18] <Doow> I'll try that the next time :)
[09:20] <blackflow> Doow: also there are timeout settings both on the server and client side like TCPKeepAlive and ClientAliveInterval (sshd only)
[09:21] <hunter> i am new to ubuntu
[09:21] <blackflow> Doow: and then sometimes it just happens, eps. if your IP changes
[09:21] <hunter> please introduce me some ref for terminal scirpting
[09:22] <blackflow> hunter: google for "bash", that's the default shell
[09:22] <Doow> blackflow, at least one thing I know doesn't happen (my ip has been the same since I got this computer)
[09:30] <ossan> こんばんは
[09:32] <ossan> 日本語しかできません。
[09:32] <blackflow> !jp
[09:33] <ossan>  /join #ubuntu-jp　　こんばんは
[09:34] <roody4u> anyone know of any rp chats?
[09:34] <blackflow> ossan: "/join #ubuntu-jp"
[09:34] <ossan> よくわからないので　失礼します。
[09:37] <JuPaname> ++++++
[10:17] <mbuf> Which version of Ubuntu was derived from Debian 6? How do I find that out?
[10:21] <lostblur> not sure if you were looking for a dialogue, but a simple google search revealed that ubuntu 10.04 was the earliest debian 6/squeeze equivalent.
[10:21] <mbuf> lostblur, thanks
[10:31] <nolics> hi
[10:32] <nolics> is there anybody?
[10:33] <Phloxx> probably
[10:34] <nolics> >_<
[10:42] <todd_> its not working
[10:46] <Taruk> Hi! Am trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 from a running system: ramdisk w/ busybox. How would I launch the netinstaller without rebooting?
[10:47] <Taruk> Ah, to answer myself: debootstrap
[10:49] <hanshenrik> `apt remove --purge postfix mail-stack-delivery -y 2>&1 | pastebinit`  gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/24287331/
[10:50] <hanshenrik> systemctl status dovecot.service 2>&1 | pastebinit   gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/24287333/
[10:51] <hanshenrik> how can i remove the postfix-mail-stack-delivery  package?
[10:51] <Taruk> Hans > mkdir -p /etc/dovecot; touch /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[10:51] <selckin> maybe reinstall dovocot so its config files returns
[10:51] <Taruk> And try again
[10:51] <selckin> or hack it like that
[10:52] <hanshenrik> haha, that mkdir/touch worked, thanks!
[10:52] <hanshenrik> apt remove --purge postfix mail-stack-delivery -y    worked now
[10:53] <Taruk> and thanks for the pastbinit, didn't know that one!
[10:53] <Taruk> you can also do `apt purge <pkg> |& pastebinit` as shorthand for purging & capturing both stdout/stderr to the pipe
[10:54] <hanshenrik> it sure comes in handy sometimes ^^  - but with the default settings, make sure not to post anything overly sensitive, like passwords/etc
[10:56] <hanshenrik> how is |&   different from 2>&1  ?
[10:58] <Guest46162> is this normal? https://puu.sh/v4nCM/247a4a4f40.png
[10:58] <yasma> hi
[10:59] <hanshenrik> Guest46162, idk, but it happens for me a lot on my debian9 with mariadb for some reason, when i reboot the system...  but again, i have no idea why
[10:59] <Guest46162> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my virtual machine and it's stuck here
[10:59] <hanshenrik> (coincidentally, its also a virtual machine, VMWare)
[10:59] <yasma> i want a commercial firewall for ubuntu.
[10:59] <Guest46162> i've been having way too much trouble trying to install ubuntu
[11:00] <yasma> get a link for download
[11:00] <AtuM> Hi
[11:00] <hanshenrik> yasma, norton antivirus with Wine? :p
[11:00] <hanshenrik> (joking)
[11:00] <Guest46162> got an error telling me “unable to find a medium containing a live file system”
[11:00] <yasma> whit wine?
[11:00] <yasma> no no
[11:00] <Guest46162> deleted the whole thing and now this again
[11:01] <yasma> no norton
[11:01] <Taruk> Hanshenrik, same, just shorter
[11:01] <yasma> firewall dear
[11:01] <yasma>  norton is antivirus
[11:01] <hanshenrik> gotcha
[11:01] <AtuM> I have a quick question.. when I'm removing old kernels from the system, an initrd image gets created for each kernel.. why is that??? https://pastebin.com/5QYk4QSL
[11:01] <hateball> yasma: any firewall on linux is iptables, there are various frontends to configure it tho, like !ufw
[11:02] <yasma> ok
[11:02] <AtuM> line 22
[11:03] <hateball> !firewall | yasma
[11:04] <yasma> therefore have not a firewall  trade
[11:04] <yasma> demo version?
[11:08] <Taruk> Yasma, you're talking gibberish
[11:10] <yasma> I'm sorry.no problem .bye
[11:13] <fxgfx> hi
[11:15] <Guest72751> ciao
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:15] <intriga_> hi
[11:20] <repozitor> last week i ask here how to dedicate a core to process!
[11:20] <repozitor> someone suggest to me cset command, or cpuset solution.
[11:21] <repozitor> now i see my process annoying by context switch.
[11:21] <intriga__> hello
[11:21] <repozitor> is there exist any solution in ubuntu to prevent context switch for special process?
[11:22] <repozitor> my process need to use exactly 100% of one core.
[11:22] <repozitor> my system has 4 core, the other cores will be available for scheduling.
[11:24] <blackflow> repozitor: only if you schedule all _other_ processes to other cores. You can pin a process to a core but that doesn't guarantee other processes won't use the core.
[11:25] <blackflow> repozitor: for such things the containers are helpful because you can then isolate process groups and set cpu/core affinity per container
[11:27] <repozitor> blackflow, your saying i should shield my special process to core X, and shield other processes to other core, right?
[11:29] <gardon> Hey
[11:29] <gardon> Just wanna ask something
[11:29] <gardon> Why do I always get lags when watching a video
[11:29] <gardon> I'm using Nvidia, btw
[11:30] <gardon> anyone?
[11:30] <AtuM> gardon: there are many things to consider..
[11:30] <gardon> Like?
[11:30] <gardon> And I had a guy told me to install primusrun and so I did
[11:31] <gardon> How do I use primusrun for video
[11:31] <AtuM> gardon: hardware, cpu usage, swapping, disk i/o, driver problems,,,
[11:31] <AtuM> gardon: you don't give much info and expact answers
[11:31] <AtuM> expect even ;)
[11:32] <gardon> Idk what infos to give that's why
[11:32] <gardon> I'm just watching a video and hace chromium run in background
[11:32] <gardon> My computer has i3 1.8Ghz 2x
[11:32] <blackflow> repozitor: exactly
[11:32] <gardon> Then Nvidia 620M
[11:32] <gardon> I'm using a laptop
[11:33] <AtuM> gardon: if you have a computer powerfull enough (good cpu, plenty ram, good video)... then it could be a driver issue or even a codec issue..
[11:33] <gardon> and have chromium*
[11:33] <gardon> It runs well on Windows
[11:33] <blackflow> repozitor: there _is_ cpuset.cpu_exclusive setting, check cpuset manpage for more info, but I'm not sure exactly how that works for existing processes
[11:33] <gardon> 4GB Ram
[11:34] <repozitor> blackflow, are you sure my context switch number for my realtime process will be without changing?
[11:34] <AtuM> nvidia support for linux is bad
[11:34] <repozitor> i have no idea about process container technogology
[11:34] <gardon> That's what I heard
[11:34] <AtuM> so.. for smooth video, use windows..
[11:34] <gardon> how about primusrun?
[11:35] <gardon> I though that was supposed to make things smooth
[11:35] <AtuM> gardon: I don't know anything about that..  try and see
[11:35] <AtuM> gardon: a pint of beer makes video smooth aswell ;)
[11:35] <gardon> Anyone knows how to use primusrun to run videos?
[11:35] <gardon> Nah, I'm done with any type of liquor
[11:36] <blackflow> repozitor: well, I don't know if that number includes CS for kernel-userspace switches, which are normal and can't be avoided
[11:36] <gardon> @atum maybe you can help me out
[11:36] <repozitor> blackflow, gathering new generated process id is hard for me!
[11:36] <gardon> the code for running firefox using primusrun is:
[11:36] <gardon> sudo primusrun firefox
[11:36] <gardon> Idk what's for video
[11:36] <blackflow> repozitor: as for cpu affinity settings, yes, properly set, they won't migrate to other cores
[11:36] <colas_> bjr
[11:37] <repozitor> blackflow, if other process won't migirate to Core X, can we say scheduling won't do context switch on my realtime process?
[11:37] <AtuM> primusrun offloads opengl to the gpu.. nice.. I haven't used it yet.. have also recently switched to amd.. not to say amd is all that better
[11:38] <repozitor> blackflow, i need to run a realtime process. it need exactly 100
[11:38] <gardon> Hmmm
[11:38] <repozitor> 100% of cpu, can i do that with kernel extension?
[11:38] <gardon> Plz help lol
[11:38] <gardon> Anyone
[11:38] <AtuM> gardon: you have windows, right? use that
[11:39] <gardon> I can't use Ubuntu for watching vids? :'(
[11:39] <gardon> @repozitor the videos application crashes (or lags) at some parts when watching video
[11:39] <blackflow> repozitor: I'm not sure that's possible without having the process run entirely in kernel, if I understand what you want correctly.
[11:40] <gardon> repozitor: so a guy from here (proxx_) said I should install primusrun and so I did
[11:40] <blackflow> gardon: maybe the same thing just name the video player instead firefox in that command? eg "primusrun vlc". I'm just assuming, I have on idea what primusrun does.
[11:40] <blackflow> *no
[11:40] <AtuM> GPU support is just bad for linux.. vendors keep things to themselves and offer only basic stuff to linux community.. I'm not a driver coder and have no influence on Nvidia, so... sorry
[11:40] <gardon> sudo primusrun videos
[11:40] <gardon> don't do anything
[11:40] <repozitor> gardon, what is your video resulotion?
[11:41] <gardon> Screen resolution for monitor?
[11:41] <gardon> 1366:768
[11:41] <gardon> and I'm just watching 360p vid or 480p
[11:42] <gardon> or 720p, I'm not really sure but it's definitely not 1080p.
[11:42] <repozitor> blackflow, what do you mean by run entirely in kernel?
[11:42] <repozitor> do you mean kernel space?
[11:42] <repozitor> you think kernel extension is process which is run in kernel space?
[11:42] <gardon> AtuM what video card is the best for linux?
[11:42] <AndroUser> Hello, is there a solution for the hang on reboot bug?
[11:43] <gardon> AtuM: I think I have to stick with Linux/Ubuntu because I'm tired of all the viruses you get when running windows.
[11:43] <blackflow> repozitor: realtime computing is something I have very little experience, so I can't give you adequate advice, except like I said, you can make a process run exclusively on a core with cpusets, however, you can't avoid CS between kernel and userspace. How exactly realtime processes work in that regard, I don't know.
[11:43] <AtuM> gardon: I have Intel on my notebook.. everything works smooth. I'm not a gamer though. I also have some cheap radeon card in my 8-core desktop.. everything runs fine..
[11:44] <gardon> This is intel + nvidia.
[11:44] <AtuM> can't answer what's best.. I'm not a hardware tester
[11:44] <gardon> Yup
[11:44] <gardon> Videos don't crash on your pc?
[11:44] <AtuM> gardon: never
[11:44] <gardon> Arrgh
[11:44] <repozitor> blackflow, ok thanks buddy
[11:44] <repozitor> i should try on your first idea!
[11:45] <blackflow> gardon: despite nvidia's bad support for linux compared to Windows, among the three (nvidia, amd, intel), nvidia has had least problems, in my 10+ year experience with it, so I'd always recommend nvidia for linux.
[11:45] <AtuM> try to disable nvidia part.. I used to have a similar problem.. that worked for me
[11:45] <gardon> Now I'm getting mixed idea about my video card.
[11:46] <gardon> I don't know what to do grrr
[11:46] <AtuM> gardon: or only enable nvidia gpu .. try not to switch between the two
[11:46] <gardon> Disabling the nvidia and then?
[11:46] <user__> нужна помощь
[11:46] <gardon> Both of them are activated on my computer
[11:46] <blackflow> no, just use nvidia like AtuM suggested
[11:46] <EriC^> !ru | user__
[11:46] <gardon> Alright I'm trying to disable intel
[11:46] <gardon> BRB
[11:46] <BluesKaj> AtuM, install nvidi-prime  and Bumblebee if you run Optimus hybrid graphics
[11:47] <BluesKaj> nvidia-prime
[11:47] <AtuM> gardon: I used to have some hybrid gpu intel+nvidia.. I coud set to force nvidia in bios
[11:47] <gardon> @Blueskaj I'm the guy that needs help lol
[11:47] <gardon> I have intel HD and nvidia gt 620m
[11:47] <gardon> Sooo, I have to install nvidia-prime and then bumblebee?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> AtuM, sorry , wrong nick ;-)
[11:49] <gardon> Sooo, I have to install nvidia-prime and then bumblebee?
[11:49] <gardon> What's the code if so
[11:49] <BluesKaj> gardon,  yes if your laptop uses Optimus
[11:50] <gardon> BluesKaj: What's the code for installing nvdia prime
[11:50] <AtuM> gardon: I don't have such hardware, so I can't tell if that would help. I just know that it might make your life easier if you choose to use only nvidia in the bios settings.
[11:51] <gardon> AtuM I can also do it in the additional drivers, rigtH?
[11:51] <AtuM> gardon: do what?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> gardon, did your laptop come with intel and nvidia, or ??
[11:52] <gardon_> I think the intel driver is messed up
[11:52] <gardon_> @Blueskaj, both
[11:52] <gardon_> In the additional drivers,
[11:52] <gardon_> the second part says Unknown: Unknown
[11:52] <gardon_> This device is using an alternate driver.
[11:53] <AndroUser> Hello, is there a solution for the hang on reboot bug?
[11:53] <gardon_> I chose Do not use this device in the Unknown Unknown AKA the Intel HD Graphics
[11:53] <AtuM> AndroUser: yeah.. poweroff :P
[11:54] <BluesKaj> gardon_,I asked if your laptop's graphics is called Optimus, do you knuw? , because we have to be sure
[11:54] <blackflow> AndroUser: what bug is that?
[11:54] <gardon_> Ohh, IDK
[11:54] <gardon_> How do I find tat out
[11:54] <gardon_> How do I determine that BluesKaj
[11:55] <EriC^> gardon_: sudo lshw -C video , maybe
[11:55] <BluesKaj> gardon_, it shuld be listed in the laptop manual in the specs
[11:56] <gardon_> I don't have the manual anymore.
[11:56] <gardon_> EriC^ here's the reply: https://paste.ee/p/0dRL4
[11:57] <AndroUser> It is s remote server and if i need to restart, it hangs on reboot, but also on power off. The server is located elsewhere, so i don't have physical accws to it, to press the power switch every timw
[11:57] <blackflow> AndroUser: your ssh connection hangs?
[11:58] <AndroUser> I ger the messsage reached target shutdown and then hug_task blocked for morw than 120 seconds, and this presists
[11:59] <ikevin> AndroUser, which task?
[12:00] <AtuM> AndroUser: just as a "first-aid workaround": # echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger     <- this command "crashes" and reboots the computer.. might want to run "sync" before using it to flush all cached data to disk
[12:00] <AndroUser> So it don't reboots. Hug task, i can provide a pictute i have taken last tine i neeydet to visit
[12:00] <BluesKaj> gardon_, certainly looks like Optimus, especially if it came equipped with 2 gpus
[12:00] <gardon_> AtuM: I'm trying the Nvidia alone thing.
[12:01] <gardon_> I click Do not use this device on the second driver.
[12:01] <gardon_> BluesKaj: What to do now
[12:01] <AtuM> gardon_: if "nvidia only" does not work for you.. optimus/bumblebee won't help either
[12:02] <AndroUser> Ill try this when i get to mc laptop
[12:02] <gardon_> The screen just turned blue in the video
[12:02] <gardon_> lmao
[12:02] <gardon_> Maybe it's the video application that has problem?
[12:04] <gardon_> I'm just gonna switch back to windows.
[12:04] <gardon_> I guess.
[12:05] <BluesKaj> gardon_, uour options are nvidia-prine and bumblebee installation if you wnat to use both gpus as intended... intel for light graphic loads and nvidia for the higher loads
[12:06] <BluesKaj> nvidia-prime , scuse my typos
[12:06] <gardon_> Is watching a video considered higher load
[12:06] <gardon_> 720p video
[12:06] <kbob> hello BluesKaj
[12:06] <BluesKaj> gardon_, yes
[12:07] <BluesKaj> hi kbob
[12:08] <gardon_> http://nlug.ml1.co.uk/2016/02/an-almost-authoritative-guide-to-nvidia-prime-and-bumblebee/5065
[12:08] <gardon_> Is this the tutorial BluesKaj
[12:09] <ouroumov__> gardon_, may be useful: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/nvidia-geforce-6200-graphics-problem-solved/12284
[12:15] <BluesKaj> gardon_, well, the Nottingham  group uses an unsupported method (ppa), and the next time  a new kernel is released and upgraded on your system that ppa won't upgrade and your system will break
[12:16] <AndroUser> Echo b > /proc/syrq-trigger crashes, and ssh tells no route to host, how can i orevent this state
[12:16] <AndroUser> Is there a ability to disable sysrw-trigger completely?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> ouroumov_, that url doesn't apply to Optimus
[12:17] <EriC^> AndroUser: dont you have access to the physical pc?
[12:18] <AndroUser> 30 more minutes, and then its a remote server
[12:19] <ikevin> AndroUser, halt --reboot -f
[12:20] <ikevin> AndroUser, or reboot -f
[12:22] <AtuM> AndroUser: of course it crashes.. i told you this was a "first aid" for reboot.. it crashes and reboots the machine.. when it boots up again you can logon.. it's a "crash-reboot"
[12:23] <BluesKaj> AtuM, wth is a crash-reboot?
[12:24] <AtuM> BluesKaj: it's a non-clean reboot :) services are still running while the system hard-reboots..
[12:25] <semitones> Yo I know about dmps set force off, but is there a way to turn off the monitor AND NOT TURN IT ON FOR KEYBRESSES? I want to type with the monitor off, and use a keyboard shortcut to turn the screen back on
[12:25] <AtuM> I mean they run just before the system crashes
[12:26] <AndroUser> My colleege is 20 min at the serves place, then i need to get there on mondey for solving it, evey time i need to get there i need much time to get an apointment
[12:26] <AtuM> semitones: turn off the monitor..
[12:27] <AndroUser> My college told me that echo b crashed the server and din't rebootet it
[12:27] <Dan9550> Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction for switching my HDMI output to RGB (0-255) with an AMD card?
[12:28] <AtuM> AndroUser: with sysrq it should boot back again.. this should not be needed for normal operation though.. if something is wrong with the whole system you should get there and fix it
[12:29] <semitones> AtuM, yes, how? It's a laptop
[12:29] <riccardo_> Hello
[12:29] <riccardo_> Do you think it is a good idea to release an Ubuntu rolling release version?
[12:29] <AtuM> semitones: oh man.. don't you have that shortkey for powering off the monitor?
[12:30] <AndroUser> Yes, i should, the rest of the system is working well, only reboot and shutdown cause a oroblem.i tryed man advices from google, but nothing helped, i need to fix it on monday, but i don't know how
[12:30] <semitones> I've got one for sending it to another display, but there's no one for turning it off. I was wondering if there was a terminal command I could bind to a global shortcut to turn it off and on
[12:31] <AtuM> AndroUser: start by checking the logs.. if a service is hanging and not stopping, you should find which one.. then debug to see why..
[12:31] <EriC^^> semitones: set the brightness to zero
[12:31] <AndroUser> Logs are clean, syslog, kern log
[12:32] <ioria> AndroUser, what is your machine  ? HP ?
[12:32] <AndroUser> Yes, hp
[12:32] <semitones> EriC^^, there's only so far the brightness will decrease using function keys. doesn't go to zero. Is there a 'set brightness to zero' terminal command I can investigate
[12:32] <ioria> AndroUser, are you fully updated ?
[12:32] <AndroUser> Yes
[12:32] <ioria> AndroUser, uname -r  ?
[12:32] <AtuM> AndroUser: are you using virtualization?
[12:33] <AndroUser> Ubuntu 16.04  and slso teied 16.10
[12:33] <AtuM> AndroUser: what software are you running on the server?
[12:33] <EriC^^> semitones: look into /sys/class/backlight
[12:33] <AndroUser> No virtualisation
[12:33] <ioria> AndroUser, uname -r  , please
[12:33] <EriC^^> semitones: echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/...../brightness
[12:34] <semitones> EriC^^, thanks
[12:34] <EriC^^> semitones: np
[12:35] <AtuM> EriC^^: I bet semitones is doing something shady on someone elses notebook ;)
[12:35] <AndroUser> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[12:35] <Dinosaurio> Hi
[12:35] <EriC^^> AtuM: nah, i think he has 2 screens and wants to turn one off
[12:35] <AndroUser> Tryed till 70-generic
[12:35] <semitones> AtuM, if only I were that sneaky. I just want to type something in freewrite style and not get distracted by typos
[12:35] <AtuM> EriC^^: lol
[12:36] <ioria> AndroUser,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:36] <AtuM> semitones: nice
[12:36] <Dinosaurio> I'm experiencing problems with the last kernel installed (4.4.0-71-generic), while the previous one works fine for me (4.4.0-70-generic). Looks like nvidia drivers won't start with (...).71 kernel. Can anybody tell me how to unistall it and to prevent Ubuntu from updating the kernel until a new version is released?
[12:36] <Dinosaurio> Thanks
[12:37] <ioria> Dinosaurio, how did you install nvidia drivers ?
[12:37] <Dinosaurio> ioria: Did it from the settings
[12:38] <ioria> Dinosaurio,  with the Additional Drivers gui  ?
[12:38] <AtuM> AndroUser: did you have problems with the 16.04's kernel??
[12:38] <AndroUser> With all kernels i have rryed
[12:39] <AtuM> AndroUser: perhaps it's something specific to hp. have you found anything hp specific?
[12:39] <AndroUser> Nothing
[12:40] <AtuM> AndroUser: have you installed hp's agents?
[12:40] <AndroUser> No
[12:40] <ioria> AndroUser,  you first need to update your system, then try kernel parameters in /etc/default/grub
[12:40] <AndroUser> Standard ubuntu 16.04 or 16.10 i tryed
[12:40] <semitones> EriC^^, it works, brilliant! Or, the opposite of brilliant!!!
[12:40] <AtuM> AndroUser: has this been a problem since clean installation?
[12:41] <AndroUser> Tryed all kernel parameters
[12:41] <AndroUser> Yes since clean install
[12:41] <ioria> AndroUser,  what parameters you tried ?
[12:42] <Dinosaurio> ioria: I have some important taks to do this week so I just prefer to have the older kernel installed. In about 2 weeks I'll have some free time and will be able to check what's the problem with the drivers ;P
[12:42] <AndroUser> There are  many bug reports an net, there is one post with all nernel parameters, acpi force
[12:42] <AtuM> AndroUser: it could be some driver issue.. have you installed any specific drivers for the raid controller?
[12:42] <ioria> Dinosaurio,  it's ok
[12:43] <AndroUser> It is a raid  and no specific driver installed
[12:43] <AtuM> AndroUser: perhaps you should do that then? have you checked if any specific driver exists for the controller?
[12:45] <AndroUser> No, it worked out of the box, expect reboot, so i din't cared about drivers
[12:45] <AtuM> AndroUser: I've had bad experience using a generic sas driver (i believe it was mvsas) on a controller that needed specific drivers.. It seemed fine for a while but in reality it was not
[12:46] <AndroUser> Ok, i will look for it on monday
[12:46] <AtuM> AndroUser: what controller is used?
[12:47] <AtuM> AndroUser: # lspci -k  (tells you what driver it uses too)
[12:47] <AndroUser> It is s hpe ml10 Gen9 E3-122225v5 8GB EU Svr/TV
[12:49] <Tatou> I just connected my gmail account to my ubuntu using the online accounts
[12:49] <Daishun> Hello. Can anyone help me fix my waste basket. I opened caja as root from the terminal and tried to delete a file. It didn't go to the wastebasket but is now gone anyway. The problem is that I can no longer send anything to the waste basket but only delete directly. I tried purging caja and using nemo instead but the result is the same.
[12:49] <AtuM> AndroUser: it that a controller type or a server type????
[12:49] <AndroUser> Server type
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Tatou
[12:50] <Tatou> But I have no google drive mounted?
[12:50] <AtuM> AndroUser: so you expect me to read the manual and find out? :)
[12:50] <Tatou> ubottu: ?
[12:51] <AndroUser> No
[12:52] <ioria> Daishun, check the permissions of ~/.local/share/Trash folder
[12:52] <AndroUser> Raid controler is raid bus controler:intel corporate Sata controler [ raid mode] (rev 3) subsystem intel corporate sata controler [  raid mode]
[12:53] <AndroUser> I wantet to give S detailed info as i can
[12:54] <workasdasd> hi
[12:55] <Daishun> ioria: you mean like:
[12:55] <Daishun> sudo ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash/
[12:55] <Daishun> total 8
[12:55] <Daishun> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Mar 31 13:10 files
[12:55] <Daishun> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Mar 31 13:10 info
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> workasdasd: welcome, how can we help?
[12:55] <zetheroo> Hi all - I installed Ubuntu Server 16.04 onto a freshly created VM (Proxmox) using the minimal Ubuntu ISO. I then installed gnome-session-flashback and xorg, but I cannot get the desktop env to start with 'sudo startx' and it doesn't start on bootup.
[12:55] <zetheroo> my xorg log is as follows http://paste.ubuntu.com/24287725/
[12:56] <ioria> Daishun, nope, it should be owned by you, not by root
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might be of more help
[12:56] <zetheroo> lotuspsychje: I just got told from them to ask in #ubuntu :D
[12:56] <zetheroo> (14:55:28) rbasak: zetheroo: server people don't know xorg. Try #ubuntu.
[12:56] <kbob> zetheroo:  server with gnome ?
[12:57] <zetheroo> kbob: yes - gnome-session-flashback to be exact
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> hmmm server guys forwarding server users to here, thats new
[12:58] <ioria>  i'am little tired today, can someone confirm this command for Daishun ?   sudo chown -R ~/.local/share/Trash
[12:58] <kbob> sudo startx, to start gnome u need something more like exec .....
[12:58] <zetheroo> where is it specified which desktop env to start on boot?
[12:58] <Daishun> I am looking at using chwon, not sure what to type
[12:58] <Daishun> chown*
[12:59] <ioria> Daishun    sudo chown  -R   $USER:$USER ~/.local/share/Trash
[12:59] <k1l_> zetheroo: install a *dm like gdm for gnome. then start gdm
[12:59] <k1l_> startx doesnt work on the big desktop environments
[12:59] <zetheroo> so gnome-session-flashback doesn't pull in a gdm?
[13:00] <k1l_> no
[13:00] <raub> If I wanted to make a iso off a USB drive that is Windows mountable, can't I just dd if=/dev/usb-device-name or should I do if=/dev/usb-device-partition
[13:01] <raub> i.e. /dev/sdg vs /dev/sdg1
[13:01] <zetheroo> k1l_: what gdm options are there? (or is there just the one lightdm ... if that's what its called ...)
[13:01] <Southern_Gentlem> raub depends what the format of the iso is
[13:02] <Daishun> I changed the owner. The error is gone but deleting a folder on my desktop is not showing in the wastebasket. I'll try a reboot and come back
[13:02] <Jackneillll> hey
[13:02] <raub> Southern_Gentlem: I am actually going th eother way: usb->iso
[13:03] <Southern_Gentlem> so yes if=/dev of=filename.iso
[13:03] <k1l_> zetheroo: gdm and lightdm are both dm. its called Display Manager
[13:03] <ah_> what's the canonical way to enable /tmp on tmpfs (on ubuntu 16.04)? I see tmp.mount is not shipped by default unlike Debian where you can just 'systemctl enable tmp.mount'.
[13:03] <raub> Southern_Gentlem: I did try that but when I fed it to a windows vm client as a disk, it would not mount.
[13:05] <Jackneillll> hey
[13:05] <Jackneillll> does ubuntu have selinux on a default desktop install?
[13:05] <zetheroo> k1l_: ok, installing lightdm
[13:05] <Jackneillll> enabled by default
[13:05] <Jackneillll> ?
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> !selinux | Jackneillll
[13:05] <Southern_Gentlem> yes
[13:05] <Southern_Gentlem> no
[13:06] <Jackneillll> thanks
[13:06] <raub> Jackneillll: afrikhaAIK it uses apparmor by default. But, selinux is a default package
[13:06] <raub> s/afrikhaAIK/AFAIK
[13:06] <raub> default package -> is in the default repo
[13:06] <Jackneillll> what is the reason behind it?
[13:06] <Jackneillll> using apparmor instead of selinux
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> !apparmor | Jackneillll
[13:07] <ah_> Jackneillll: the first thing people do on a system having selinux enabled by default is disable it.... it's just too hard to deal with.
[13:07] <Lupus> Hello guys.
[13:07] <Jackneillll> i see
[13:07] <Lupus> People can connect to my FTP server through the public IP address, but I can't, why?
[13:08] <Jackneillll> thanks
[13:08] <Lupus> Who can solve my problem?
[13:08] <CrazySane> Lupus: likely routing.
[13:08] <Lupus> What?
[13:08] <Southern_Gentlem> ah_, BS
[13:08] <CrazySane> Lupus: Is this at home, or on a business network?
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> Lupus: be carefull with ftp servers for security reasons
[13:08] <blackflow> ah_: which was the case back when selinux policies were broken, and that advice has been invalid, and is even more so today.
[13:08] <Lupus> My home.
[13:08] <Lupus> No problem. I use it for tests.
[13:09] <Lupus> It works for what I want to do.
[13:09] <CrazySane> Lupus: is the FTP server external directly, or using port forwarding?
[13:09] <raub> ah_: That sounds like Microsoft/Apple talk
[13:09] <Lupus> But I want to access it through ftp://public_ip like others.
[13:09] <Lupus> Port forwarding.
[13:09] <raub> Lupus: did you check your log files for clues?
[13:09] <Lupus> Yes.
[13:10] <Lupus> You mean vsftpd.log?
[13:10] <Lupus> Or something like that.
[13:10] <FinalX> ftp? in this day and age? why not chrooted sftp (over ssh)?
[13:11] <CrazySane> Lupus: why is it important to you to use the public address? It sounds like the port forwarding isn't working properly when it has to re-route from inside your network back into the network.
[13:11] <Daishun> @ioria I rebooted twice and the wastebasket is working as normal now with me as the owner but there is still a bug. When I click the wastebasket in caja then click another folder caja will crash.
[13:11] <Lupus> It works.
[13:11] <Lupus> Someone told me that I have to enable nat loopback.
[13:12] <CrazySane> Lupus: FinalX has a point tho, SFTP is just as easy to setup and WAY more secure.
[13:12] <Lupus> I have and sftp.
[13:12] <zetheroo> k1l_:  I now have a login screen. But when trying to login I get 'Failed to start session' in red text above the password input area
[13:12] <FinalX> FTP is a pain to maintain firewall-wise as well, for sftp it's just one tcp port.
[13:13] <k1l_> zetheroo: make sure the stuff in your users home belongs to your user and not root
[13:13] <zetheroo> 'journalctl -n -p err' shows me a bunch of this: Mar 31 15:07:33 orbit1604 lightdm[1344]: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet5.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet5.so: cannot
[13:13] <zetheroo> Mar 31 15:07:33 orbit1604 lightdm[1344]: PAM adding faulty module: pam_kwallet5.so
[13:13] <CrazySane> FinalX: truth.
[13:15] <zetheroo> k1l_: seems like it's mixed .. should any of it be owned by root? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24287878/
[13:15] <Daishun> @ioria Everything works fine with Nemo though. I guess I'll just purge caja and use Nemo instead unless you have some idea why caja is buggy like this?
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: if you find a bug, help the community and !bug your issue
[13:18] <k1l_> zetheroo: except .gvfs everything should be user:user
[13:19] <Daishun> I'll report it.
[13:19] <semitones> is this the preferred way to execute a script with sudo? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24287898/
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:19] <Daishun> mate 16.10
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: have you experienced same bahaviour on LTS version?
[13:20] <zetheroo> k1l_: ok, I fixed that but still get the same msg
[13:21] <Daishun> I've been using LM cinnamon for the last 4 years. I just installed mate today. I haven't used Ubuntu before
[13:21] <zetheroo> is this a clue? [+10.91s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Failed to find session configuration ubuntu
[13:21] <zetheroo> (from: /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log)
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: i suggest you test this on LTS first before you bug it, and compare with non-lts
[13:22] <Daishun> Ok, I'll see if I can reproduce the error on a live USB
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: great, tnx for testing
[13:22] <frib> when I connect to a bluetooth audio device youtube refuses to continue streaming -- what to do? thanks
[13:22] <blackflow> zetheroo: maybe it'd be better to reinstall but with ubuntu-desktop image, it's already nicely preconfigured
[13:23] <Daishun> Thanks for the help. Nemo works fine anyway for now
[13:23] <frib> actually when I Select the device in audio settings
[13:23] <k1l_> zetheroo: does the guest account work?
[13:23] <zetheroo> blackflow: I would, but I was hoping to get a lightweight install of Ubuntu without Unity
[13:23] <zetheroo> k1l_: no, same msg
[13:23] <blackflow> zetheroo: running what DE instead of it?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: another idea would be running caja from terminal, see what errors spitting out?
[13:24] <blackflow> zetheroo: and you can always change it after installation
[13:24] <zetheroo> blackflow: the one I installed here - gnome-session-flashback
[13:24] <zetheroo> I just thought it was possible to install a DE onto Ubuntu server :)
[13:25] <blackflow> zetheroo: technically it is
[13:25] <k1l_> i dont know if that metapackage pulls enough of the xorg stuff. does the Xorg.log tell something about issues?
[13:25] <Daishun> sudo caja
[13:25] <Daishun> ** Message: Initializing gksu extension...
[13:25] <Daishun> Initializing caja-open-terminal extension
[13:25] <Daishun> (caja:5286): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_parent_window: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[13:25] <Daishun> (caja:5286): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_parent: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[13:25] <Daishun> [1]+  Done                    caja
[13:25] <blackflow> zetheroo: I guess that particular DE is not well integrated/configured. Frankly, this was the first time I heard of it. Like MATE but gtk3
[13:26] <zetheroo> k1l_: no, but what about this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/792677/login-with-lightdm-fails
[13:26] <zetheroo> or is this just messy?
[13:26] <zetheroo> blackflow: yeah, probably right
[13:27] <Daishun> Running caja as non-root just closes without any error in the terminal
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: is this what you experience? https://github.com/mate-desktop/caja/issues/649
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> !info caja yakkety
[13:29] <Daishun> @lotuspsychje, yep it's the same bug XD
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: perhaps add your story to the existing bug?
[13:31] <TheOneMenzie> Daishun, lotuspsychje : It may be fixed in 1.18... What's the issue?
[13:32] <Daishun> @lotuspsychje, My bug is the same as the op
[13:32] <Daishun> Happens when navigating to Trash and then somewhere else
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: yeah i know, more bug affected users, more chance of solving
[13:32] <TheOneMenzie> What bug is it?
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> TheOneMenzie: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834943
[13:33] <frib> ahhh bluetooth stopped working totally out of the "blue" and stops youtube from streaming whenever I select it as the audio device
[13:33] <frib> please help! thanks
[13:33] <Daishun> I'm on version 1.16. I'll try updating to 1.18 from the ppa
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> oh bug is closed and solved
[13:34] <TheOneMenzie> Lotus
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> TheOneMenzie: yes?
[13:35] <TheOneMenzie> lotuspsychje: I see no indication the fix was released, not from the link you gave me
[13:35] <Daishun> how do I force caja 1.18 to install with apt-get?
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: its not recommended to mix package versions on ubuntu
[13:35] <Neepu> Hi. I'm having trouble with my USB devices being unresponsive, but still receive power through the cable (lightning can be adjusted on keyboard etc.). This also happened in Windows, so I'm wondering where i would find hardware logs to see if i can determine some cause?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> Daishun: i would test LTS
[13:36] <Daishun> Yeah, I'll try the LTS later
[13:36] <CrazySane> Neepu: When it's not detected, what does lsusb give you?
[13:36] <CrazySane> Neepu: is the device listed?
[13:36] <frib> please help fix bluetooth audio stopping youtube from streaming when selected as audio device
[13:37] <gugurang> gurugeek
[13:37] <Neepu> Yes all devices are listed
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> !backports | Daishun perhaps?
[13:37] <Neepu> CrazySane, when not detected you mean by not being responsibe right?
[13:37] <CrazySane> Neepu: Yea
[13:37] <CrazySane> Neepu: So the device is still listed, but not functional
[13:38] <Daishun> I did enable backports. I'll have a look at this later. I need to go for now. Thanks and bye.
[13:38] <Neepu> If thats the case, i'm having trouble to answer that. Due to my keyboard and mouse not working, would have to get SSH up and running..
[13:39] <CrazySane> Neepu: You can use an onscreen keyboard: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-osk.html
[13:40] <CrazySane> Also, dmesg will get you logs.
[13:40] <frib> bluetooth support in this OS has always been horrendous
[13:40] <CrazySane> !dmesg | Neepu
[13:43] <Southern_Gentlem> frib well bluetooth is horrendous
[13:43] <frib> Southern_Gentlem, well what other choice is there in the world
[13:43] <frib> if it works sometimes it can work all of the time
[13:43] <frib> logically
[13:44] <ubuntuzuzu> hello there
[13:44] <CrazySane> Southern_Gentlem: I haven't had any problems with my Bluetooth? I use bluetooth headphones over here.
[13:44] <frib> one release it works the next it breaks then it works again but you have to google for  8 hours to find the correct work around, then it breaks again
[13:44] <ubuntuzuzu> I'd like to know why the netboot on ubuntu 16.04 changed my naming interface to eno1 and when the system is up it changed again to em1?!
[13:44] <Southern_Gentlem> frib,  because things change especilly software
[13:45] <zetheroo> hmm ... I installed lubuntu-desktop and login work perfectly now ...
[13:45] <zetheroo> I guess I'll start with a fresh install and go with LXDE from the start :)
[13:46] <frib> Southern_Gentlem, this morning bluetooth was working fine, then firefox did an upgrade -- the only thing i can think of -- and now youtube won't stream
[13:46] <CrazySane> !pm | neeps
[13:46] <frib> *if* bluetooth audio is selected
[13:47] <frib> not to mention the "connect" button is always greyed out in the control center
[13:47] <CrazySane> frib: which bluetooth adapter do you have?
[13:48] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: em1 or en1?
[13:48] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: during netboot it's eno1 and after reboot it's em1
[13:48] <ubuntuzuzu> using grub2uefi
[13:48] <frib> CrazySane, intel N-2230
[13:49] <mustmodify> I'm in a hackathon. My dev machine has gotten wonked and I need help getting back to sanity. Someone on #postgres suggested I follow these instructions. I want to undo them. Can anyone help? http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt
[13:49] <mustmodify> I basically need to remove a repo from the apt sources
[13:49] <wildpenguin> has anybody here used Budgie DE?
[13:49] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: eno1 is predictable by systemd, but em1 afaik doesn't follow a default naming scheme. Do you have a link override in /etc/systemd/network/... ?
[13:49] <ubuntuzuzu> no any its a fresh install
[13:50] <CrazySane> frib: are you sure that's not a Wireless Adapter? (Or does that device have bluetooth built in too?) This is what I've found:
[13:50] <CrazySane> frib: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089512
[13:50] <frib> CrazySane, it has built in
[13:50] <samgoody> Hi all. I am trying to install Ubuntu 16 Desktop onto a computer already running Win 7
[13:50] <OerHeks> mustmodify, good luck .. hint: ppa-purge
[13:51] <neeps> Does this look like a HW issue? https://pastebin.com/CXpWRPZ9 related to my previous question about USB devices not being responsive
[13:51] <samgoody> I was told by the internets to make resize partyitions in Windows, so that I have a area unallocated at least 20GB
[13:51] <frib> CrazySane, https://ark.intel.com/products/66889/Intel-Centrino-Wireless-N-2230-Single-Band
[13:51] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: em1 followed a naming scheme under ubuntu 14.04 ..?
[13:51] <OerHeks> wildpenguin, / crazytux, when 17.04 comes out .. untill then, #ubuntu+1 you know the drill
[13:51] <samgoody> I did that, and am now trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows, but it says the unallocated space is unusable
[13:51] <frib> CrazySane, that thread is for the adapter not working? my adapter works. and bluetooth also worked fine until this morning
[13:52] <CrazySane> neeps: That looks fishy to me. Do you have another keyboard on hand to test for hardware failure?
[13:53] <samgoody> Some further seacrhing shows that the issue is becaause Win7 makes 4 partitions and that is the limit, but what is the workaround?
[13:53] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: btw, where are you looking up that name? what does "ip link show" say? can you pastebin?
[13:53] <samgoody> Or is it not possible to dual install Windows and Ubuntu
[13:53] <CrazySane> frib: I'm just pointing out that this hardware has had issues in the past.
[13:53] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: no, em1 is not a valid udev network interface name scheme
[13:53] <neeps> not really CrazySane
[13:54] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: in 14.04, wihtout systemd, it was the usual ethX. with systemd, the naming scheme follows a predictable scheme ruleset, where en* are ethernet devices
[13:54] <semitones> EriC^^, I got as far as getting the script (http://paste.ubuntu.com/24288033/) to run with sudo without a password, but I get a permission denied error still. Do you have any ideas why that's possible?
[13:54] <CrazySane> neeps: my Google results tell me differently. Many people seem to have had issues with this particular hardware.
[13:55] <frib> CrazySane, well all I Can say is I've been using it for years and after googling for hours, sometimes days, I always managed to make it work somehow
[13:55] <frib> so apparently the hardware works
[13:55] <semitones> /home/patrick/.local/bin/su.d/screenbool.sh: line 4: /sys/class/backlight/radeon_bl0/brightness: Permission denied
[13:55] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: ubuntu 16 : em1 renamed from eth0Â, where des it come from?
[13:55] <CrazySane> neeps: wrong tag, sorry.
[13:55] <frib> even this morning it did
[13:55] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: please pastebin the output of "ip link show"
[13:55] <EriC^^> semitones: the script isn't syntactically correct
[13:56] <samgoody> And if I ought to be asking in another channel, please direct me
[13:56] <EriC^^> semitones: ah nevermind
[13:56] <EriC^^> semitones: it is wrong though at the if part
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | samgoody
[13:56] <semitones> I thought that might be the case. Should it be something like "if echo ..."
[13:57] <EriC^^> semitones: if [ "$(cat /sys/class/backlight/radeon_bl0/brightness)" == "0" ]; then true;
[13:57] <k1l_> samgoody: if ubuntu already uses 4 primary partitions, there is no way you can make a 5th one. that doesnt work on msdos partitiontable
[13:57] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow:
[13:57] <ubuntuzuzu> http://fr.pastebin.ca/3789357
[13:58] <samgoody> There are four partitions listed asid from unusable
[13:58] <samgoody> sda1 - sda4
[13:59] <samgoody> I followed the instructions on that page, but got stuck at the install ubuntu part. Because of the number of partitions, presumably.
[13:59] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: did you upgrade to 16.04, or install fresh?
[13:59] <k1l_> samgoody: yes, some preinstalled windows do already use 4 partitions. because they dont care if the user wants to install another OS
[13:59] <OerHeks> samgoody, so .. remove 1, make that space extended, and you can create new logical partitions in that
[13:59] <samgoody> I read that there is something called logical partitions that I could setup, but it is beyond my experience
[14:00] <semitones> EriC^^, i feel very lucky that I didn't irrecoverably set the screen to zero with that = instead of ==
[14:00] <samgoody> Will removing 1 do in my install of Windows?
[14:00] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: and a better question, is that some kind of VM?
[14:00] <k1l_> samgoody: there is no way around the fact, that you need to delete one partition before you can make a extended partition and put the logical partitions for ubunut into that
[14:00] <lol768> I'm trying to install Ubuntu
[14:00] <samgoody> OK, and that should be done from within Windows?
[14:00] <EriC^^> semitones: if you want, there's xbacklight which can control the backlight
[14:00] <k1l_> samgoody: that means you need to get rid of the recovery partition or what else is installed on that disk
[14:00] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: that's physical system
[14:01] <ubuntuzuzu> ubuntuzuzu: fresh install via netboot
[14:01] <EriC^^> semitones: you can set it to a keyboard shortcut
[14:01]  * k1l_ needs to go afk.
[14:01] <lol768> Ubiquity is being uncooperative. "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 in Encrypted Volume (sdb1_crypt) at / failed"
[14:01] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a"
[14:02] <ubuntuzuzu> haha
[14:02] <semitones> EriC^^, I saw reference to that -- I'm not sure if it can set brightness = 0, but I'll give it a try. (I'm learning so much about bash scripting though!)
[14:02] <semitones> (or am I? :P)
[14:03] <ubuntuzuzu> man i'm not a lier
[14:03] <blackflow> ?
[14:03] <EriC^^> semitones: nah you are, bash scripting is fun and to the point and handy
[14:03] <ubuntuzuzu> http://fr.pastebin.ca/3789358
[14:03] <lol768> Given it's just supposed to have mkfs'd said partition itself I have no idea why it would fail to mount it
[14:04] <EriC^^> semitones: you can set it to 0 with xbacklight -set 0
[14:04] <EriC^^> semitones: you can probably write a script around that so it's like an on/off switch, just like you were doing, the nice part is that it doesn't need sudo for xbacklight
[14:05] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: well, sorry, I have no idea why you have em1 instead of, say, enpX, if that really is Ubuntu 16.04. em1 was mapping from before systemd, and it's possible the mapping was kept if you upgraded, but as you say you installed fresh, sorry, no idea.
[14:05] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: thank you a lot :)
[14:05] <fyan-2017-rava>  Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since T6 2017-03-31 20:38:23 ICT; 27min ag
[14:06] <fyan-2017-rava>      Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
[14:06] <fyan-2017-rava>   Process: 1364 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited, status=1/FAILU
[14:06] <CrazySane> !pastebin | fyan-2017-rava
[14:06] <OerHeks> ubuntuzuzu, " NICs that are embedded on the motherboard are identified by udev as em1, em2, etc."
[14:06] <fyan-2017-rava> i have a problem after install apache2
[14:06] <fyan-2017-rava> please help me
[14:06] <CrazySane> !ask | fyan-2017-rava
[14:07] <ubuntuzuzu> OerHeks: that make sense, but why netboot name them differently?
[14:07] <semitones> EriC^^, yeah that is nice. I ended up making a directory called ~/.local/bin/su.d/ to put scripts that need to run as root, chown and chmod them so root is the only one who can write, and add the scripts to visudo
[14:07] <frib> all of a sudden since this morning connecting and selecting bluetooth audio device prevents flash streaming -- please help thank you
[14:07] <blackflow> OerHeks: on 16.04?
[14:07] <OerHeks> ubuntuzuzu, i have no answer to that, sure the netboot image is 16.04 or up?
[14:07] <blackflow> OerHeks: systemd udev doesn't have em* names
[14:07] <EriC^^> semitones: nice, can you set the whole dir or you have to add the scripts one by one? i'm curious
[14:08] <ubuntuzuzu> OerHeks: yes it comes directly from archive.ubuntu.com xenial repository
[14:09] <EriC^^> semitones: also it's probably a good idea to chown the su.d dir so only root can delete the files
[14:09] <semitones> EriC^^, I don't know about sudoers well enough to tell you for sure. Everything i've read mentions adding scripts one by one
[14:09] <semitones> and I chowned the directory as well
[14:09] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: I have like a hundred physical system with em* default name so..
[14:10] <EriC^^> semitones: ok cool
[14:10] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: which would suggest some kind of override or remapping. You sure /etc/systemd/network/ is empty?
[14:10] <ubuntuzuzu> Yes it is i've checked it twice
[14:11] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: I'll just adapt my preseed build to rename the interface correctly ... that's ugly :(
[14:11] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: wait, preseed? so you _do_ have a custom config?
[14:11] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: btw, do you have ifnames=0 in the kernel line?
[14:11] <fyan-2017-rava> http://imgur.com/a/K9g3T
[14:12] <ubuntuzuzu> no blackflow no net.ifnames=0
[14:12] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: and  /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link  doesn't exist?
[14:12] <blackflow> ah yes, you said it was empty.... well, I'm out of ideas.
[14:12] <ubuntuzuzu> you mean during netboot?
[14:12] <CrazySane> !apache | fyan-2017-rava
[14:12] <blackflow> no, the installed system. the netboot's "enX" is valid systemd udev name
[14:14] <CrazySane> fyan-2017-rava: Check and verify nothing else is using the port?   sudo netstat -l|grep www
[14:14] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: I should try using BIOS legacy boot
[14:14] <ubuntuzuzu> that's maybe an UEFI issue
[14:16] <Manc3> :) hey
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> Manc3: welcome, how can we help you?
[14:17] <Manc3> just mooching ( browsing)
[14:17] <Manc3> ty
[14:17] <CrazySane> fyan-2017-rava: This link seems relevant to the error I see in your log: https://askubuntu.com/questions/811271/how-to-resolve-the-apache2-configtest-failed
[14:18] <frib> please help me troubleshoot selection of bluetooth audio device stopping flash videos from streaming as of this morning with intel n-2330 wifi/bt adapter
[14:18] <tomasm-> hey, i just installed 16.04 LTS on my HP laptop and the wifi was working during the USB install but now that i've rebooted, my wifi isn't showing up at all. i've shut networking on/off, wifi on/off, nothing. i've run service network-manager restart, but no dice
[14:19] <tomasm-> its a realtek 8188 wifi card, worked in 15.04 and 14.04
[14:19] <CrazySane> !patients | frib
[14:19] <frib> patience?
[14:19] <Manc3> install the correct firmware tom
[14:19] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: I'm curious to know if that was it
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: updated your system to 16.04.2?
[14:19] <CrazySane> !patience | frib
[14:19] <Manc3> google wifi adapter
[14:19] <CrazySane> I can't spell patience. XD
[14:19] <Manc3> awesome xD
[14:19] <tomasm-> Manc3, lol, "wifi adapter"?
[14:19] <frib> i googled as many things as I can possibly think of
[14:20] <tomasm-> lotuspsychje, it IS 16.04.2
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: sudo lshw -C network showing your driver= active?
[14:20] <Manc3> what ever he connects thru
[14:20] <tomasm-> the same wifi card worked in 15.04 and 14.04, so i hope it's not a driver issue
[14:20] <frib> it is so frustrating that every time I upgrade this OS I am forced to find a new way to fix this problem every time
[14:21] <frib> first it was having to do pactl load-module module-bluez5-discover
[14:21] <Tatou> Last time I upgraded from 16.04 to 16.10 my keyboard stopped working
[14:21] <Tatou> God damnit I hate linux drivers sometimes
[14:21] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: stay online i'm going to tell you ;)
[14:21] <CrazySane> frib: I understand your frustration, but at the moment I'm of the opinion that the root cause is slightly unsupported hardware.
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> Tatou: most cases LTS is the good stable choice
[14:21] <blackflow> ubuntuzuzu: k
[14:21] <frib> but now I get "Failure: Module initialization failed"
[14:22] <PipeItToDevNull> frib, You should relace your wifi card with a more compatible one =P
[14:22] <tomasm-> lotuspsychje, it's there, but says driver=rtl8188ee
[14:22] <Manc3> sudo apt-get remove MYGIRLFRIEND
[14:22] <Tatou> lotuspsychje: Yes. Is 17.04 LTS coming out sooon?
[14:22] <Manc3> ffs gotta go she is a tit
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: dmesg/syslog spitting anything usefull on that module?
[14:22] <frib> PipeItToDevNull, a long time ago I Specifically bought this one because it was the only one that my laptop supported as an internal bluetooth adapter
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !zesty | Tatou
[14:23] <Tatou> Sweet! What's new though?
[14:23]  * Tatou hasn't used ubuntu in a long while anyways
[14:23] <frib> and as I said it has worked consistently notwithstanding the annoying workarounds
[14:23] <tomasm-> lotuspsychje, "Power save off (module option)".... using firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188efw.bin ..... "rtlwifi: wireless switch is on"... "0000:01:00.0 wlo1: renamed from wlan0"
[14:23] <ubuntuzuzu> blackflow: Another 16.04 regression is the "Force UEFI" message during debian-installer
[14:24] <ubuntuzuzu> didn't exist on 14.04
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: hmm might be a realtek firmware issue
[14:24] <CrazySane> frib: But those workarounds appear to be required to make the adapter work because it's only partially supported.
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | tomasm-
[14:24] <tomasm-> lotuspsychje, but it worked on 15.04!
[14:24] <tomasm-> im trying to remember if i had to get firmware or not and install manually
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: or check realtek website for latest driver/firmwares
[14:25] <frib> CrazySane, I don't agree that people should have to go buy new hardware to make software that can work with it work
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: did you upgrade to 16.04 or clean install?
[14:25] <tomasm-> lotuspsychje, clean install, wiped the drive
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: ok, good
[14:27] <CrazySane> frib: that doesn't change the fact that you've always had to workaround the compatibility of the Bluetooth adapter in your system. Ubuntu didn't manufacture the hardware.
[14:27] <tomasm-> it worked fine on the setup usb stick though
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: hmm, thats weird
[14:28] <Scoop7> Q: 2017: Mega vs pCloud vs Copy vs BitCasa vs Dropbox ?
[14:28] <frib> CrazySane, actually this time it worked with a fresh Ubuntu desktop install
[14:28] <frib> but waited until this morning to break out of the blue
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: can you try different kernel versions on your wifi?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: just as a test
[14:29] <frib> also, if making a card work is a matter of e.g. simply runnning a 1-line command -- i don't see why it can't be supported more easily
[14:29] <OerHeks> Scoop7, such poll is beyond the scope of this channel
[14:29] <tomasm-> lotuspsychje, no idea how to do that
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: load into grub, and choose previous ubuntu version, choose a lower kernel as test
[14:29] <Scoop7> OerHeks: mm, why - they all support ubuntu OS (well dropbox does it poorly ...)
[14:30] <tomasm-> lotuspsychje, this is a fresh install i dont think there are other options
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: ah kk
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic | tomasm-
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> this is your kernel version atm tomasm- ?
[14:31] <CrazySane> frib: Have you checked your firmware version: https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking/000005511.html
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> this one
[14:31] <tomasm-> how do i get to grub, it just automatically boots
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: hold shift at boot
[14:32] <Scoop7> Anyone has any suggestions on cloud sync backups solutions for web dev dekstop/env ?
[14:32] <Scoop7> on ubuntu ofc....
[14:32] <CrazySane> tomasm-: Hold shift at boot
[14:32] <frib> CrazySane, you mean the version currently installed? not sure how to do that
[14:34] <CrazySane> frib: that link I referenced seems to give instructions
[14:34] <lol768> http://i.imgur.com/UtCVexe.jpg
[14:34]  * CrazySane ask
[14:34] <tomasm-> shift didnt work
[14:34]  * CrazySane afk
[14:34] <lol768> So does any part of the installer work, or is it just universally useless?
[14:34] <Scoop7> OerHeks: does this channel only deals with ubuntu installation scope?:))
[14:34] <CrazySane> tomasm-: sudo vim /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:34] <frib> CrazySane, it says my device is supported by iwlwifi
[14:36] <CrazySane> tomasm-: change your timeout, and turn off hidden.
[14:36] <tomasm-> ok weird, wifi works now
[14:36] <tomasm-> lol
[14:36] <CrazySane> tomasm-: then do a sudo update-grub
[14:36]  * CrazySane afk for a few
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: what did you do?
[14:37] <frib> how do I check the version of firmware currently installed for my wifi adapter?
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> frib: sudo lshw -C network
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> frib: behind driver= at bottom
[14:38] <tomasm-> lotuspsychje, only ran network-manager restart, then rebooted the computer a few times
[14:38] <OerHeks> Scoop7, yes, ubuntu support, not 'what is the best cloud storage'
[14:39] <frib> lotuspsychje, the installed firmware=version is the same as the one listed on intel website
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> frib: sorry was not following your original issue, re-ask in channel for more success of solving it
[14:41] <tomasm-> thanks guys
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: we dindt do anything :p
[14:42] <tomasm-> i would have given up if i didn't at least have somebody giving me suggestions. i just stumbled upon it working in the meantime =)
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: ok good luck mate
[14:44] <tomasm-> ok well once i disconnected it wont reconnect, no wireless shows up
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> tomasm-: perhaps consider a new !bug
[14:45] <tomasm-> insufficient privileges
[14:45] <tomasm-> i went to the login screen, "Failed to add/activate conncetion: (1) insufficient privileges"
[14:45] <Kobee>  Hello. I'm trying to forward my rsyslogd logs to another server. this part already works, but now I want to filter out the logs comming from haproxy, cause it's way too much log. I can't figure out how I can, I bet it has to do with my *.* @@mydomain:514;Format, but I cant figure out how I should tweak it. Any help over here ?
[14:46] <semitones> EriC^^, a-ha It works! thanks for your help :)
[14:46] <EriC^^> semitones: great, no problem :)
[14:46] <asdee12> a
[14:47] <asdee12> this is weird
[14:47] <asdee12> im sorry wrong channel ;)
[14:47] <tomasm-> oh well i'll deal with it later, i can go back to a network i've already been on but cant add a new network
[14:49] <harushimo> question on ssh
[14:50] <harushimo> is the config file for ssh? is it sshd_config or ssh_config? I see it as ssh_config. Am I missing something else?
[14:51] <blackflow> harushimo: ssh_config is for the client side and sshd_config for the sshd server side
[14:51] <harushimo> thank you
[14:51] <harushimo> i'm guessing I don't have the daemon installed. I have ssh
[14:51] <blackflow> harushimo: you can also use ~/.ssh/config for client side configs specific to the user
[14:51] <harushimo> I figured that much. Thank yo so much
[14:52] <harushimo> I appreciate the clarification
[14:52] <blackflow> harushimo: the deamon is part of openssh-server package
[14:53] <blackflow> (ot quip: FerengiLinux, where daemons are called daimons)
[14:53] <frib> my bluetooth audio device spontaneously stopped working as of this morning. please offer troubleshooting advice, thank you, sincerely
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> frib: ubuntu version, stopped working after update?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> frib: are you using blueman also?
[14:55] <frib> lotuspsychje, 16.04.2 LTS
[14:55] <frib> lotuspsychje, i was not until 5 minutes ago when I tried to install it hoping it would fix the problem
[14:55] <frib> (it didn't)
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> frib: can you test another kernel version as test?
[14:56] <frib> lotuspsychje, as for it happening "after update" the only update I'm aware of being done since this morning was a firefox update
[14:56] <frib> lotuspsychje, as in go to grub menu select a diff kernel?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> frib: indeed, and a small ubuntu base update
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> frib: yeah, could you try?
[14:56] <frib> lotuspsychje, can you remind me how to make grub menu appear?
[14:56] <frib> some file hidden option
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> frib: hold shift at boot
[14:57] <frib> lotuspsychje, that never works
[14:57] <Jackal08> Hi Everyone
[14:57] <Jackal08> Im uber noob... First time
[14:57] <frib> i need the grub options file with the TIMEOUT etc options
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> Jackal08: welcome, how can we help you?
[14:58] <Jackal08> Busy doing the official Linux Foundation intro course. Found this app. Testing it out. Is there maybe a list of topics and networks available somewhere?
[14:59] <frib> lotuspsychje, found it /etc/default/grub
[14:59] <frib> lotuspsychje, will try another kernel now
[15:00] <nacc> Jackal08: what app are you referring to? Do you mean an IRC client?
[15:00] <nacc> !alis | Jackal08
[15:00] <Jackal08> So I am using HexChat?
[15:00] <nacc> Jackal08: for lists of networks -- there are many
[15:00] <nacc> Jackal08: ok, that's an IRC client
[15:00] <Tatou> So it appears cron @reboot jobs don't run as the user
[15:01] <Tatou> How can I best mount using sshfs and start a ssh tunnel on startup?
[15:02] <nacc> Tatou: if they are in the user's crontab, i thinkthey should
[15:02] <Tatou> nacc: Does not appear to!
[15:02] <blackflow> Tatou: static mount in /etc/fstab, or perhaps use something like autofs. I think systemd units can do automounts as well, not sure
[15:03] <nacc> Tatou: how did you add the cronjob?
[15:03] <Tatou> nacc: @reboot sh ~/git/personal_linux_environment/scripts/mount-feral-completed.sh
[15:03] <Tatou> Here is an example. From the user's crontab
[15:04] <frib> lotuspsychje, changed to kernel 4.8.0-45 to 4.8.0-44 and problem persists
[15:04] <nacc> Tatou: @reboot is when crond starts, which might be before /home is mounted
[15:04] <nacc> Tatou: per the manpage
[15:04] <Tatou> nacc: Yes.. Is there an alternative?
[15:06] <Tatou> nacc: Ideally, I'd love to be able to do all this through scripting.. But I just need the ssh tunnel and the sshfs mounted
[15:07] <wildpenguin> can upgrading the kernel solve the issue of random freezes?
[15:08] <nacc> Tatou: looking
[15:08] <nacc> wildpenguin: sometimes, if the freeze aren't random but have been root-caused and fixed
[15:08] <wildpenguin> I have this kernel version  4.8.0-44-generic
[15:08] <Tatou> nacc: I see.. ~/.profile is the way to go apparently! I'll try that :)
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> frib: not sure mate, out of ideas, perhaps look into your logs?
[15:08] <frib> lotuspsychje, for example?
[15:08] <nacc> Tatou: there is a GUI -> start scripts on login
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> frib: anything related to bluetooth error can help right
[15:09] <nacc> Tatou: err, system -> preferences -> startup applications
[15:09] <Tatou> nacc: I've seen that, but meh.. gui.. It's a pain to source control that stuff
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> frib: or a tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with bluetooth a bit
[15:09] <wildpenguin> sometimes the os stops responding completely. I have ubuntu mate 16.04.2 installed on my new laptop.
[15:10] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[15:10] <frib> lotuspsychje, will try thx
[15:10] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic-lts-xenial xenial
[15:10] <nacc> !info linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[15:10] <nacc> !info linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xenial
[15:11] <frib> lotuspsychje, just shows that the device is successfully connected and input: 74:C2:46:11:96:13 as /devices/virtual/input/input17
[15:11] <nacc> wildpenguin: it would appear you are behind on the kernel regardless
[15:11] <nacc> wildpenguin: you shouldn't ignore kernel updates
[15:11] <wildpenguin> I update/upgrade the OS regularly.
[15:12] <wildpenguin> I use the commands sudo apt-get upgrade & update
[15:12] <frib> lotuspsychje, when I tried to change volume this came out: [pulseaudio] sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: sink is suspended.
[15:13] <blackflow> wildpenguin: you need "dist-upgrade" to bring in a new kernel
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> frib: related to your bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1608820
[15:13] <frib> lotuspsychje, i am on that page already! ;)
[15:13] <nacc> wildpenguin: i hope in the other order?
[15:13] <frib> lotuspsychje, but i dont understand if there is a workaround for ubuntu / how to :(
[15:14] <nacc> wildpenguin: and if on 16.04, use `sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade`
[15:14] <wildpenguin> blackflow, do you mean sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[15:14] <blackflow> wildpenguin: yea
[15:14] <wildpenguin> nacc, I am using 16.04.2
[15:14] <HankMoody> I'm sure you've all seen this in here a time or two, but from all the posts I've read and tried I can't figure it out... I log into my computer either the sound will be active and work perfectly for about 2 minutes 30 seconds, then it immediately kills and I can't hear it anymore. Sometimes it seems if I "alsa force-reload" immediately upon log in and not run any sound until everything fully loads it'll work fine. Sometimes I've got to keep
[15:14] <HankMoody> restarting and the sounds still cuts off or doesn't work at all upon login. I've gone over this article ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure - removing the .config/pulse folder, restarting and getting back into Unity it seemed that that had worked until I logged back in after restarting the machine to run the new kernel from the update yesterday... Sorry about being so verbose I'm just really frsutrated
[15:14] <blackflow> wildpenguin: if you did just "upgrade", then the package manager would warn you there's (kernel) upgrades it's omitting
[15:14] <nacc> wildpenguin: right, so use `apt`
[15:15] <wildpenguin> ok
[15:15] <macopython> Is it possible to check for Luks encryption programatically ?
[15:15] <frib> lotuspsychje, what should I do now?
[15:15] <blackflow> macopython: check what exactly?
[15:16] <frib> lotuspsychje, this is also after resume from suspend, whereas I am not suspending at all
[15:16] <macopython> blackflow: Check that particular drive is encrypted using LUKS.
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> frib: add your story to the existing bug
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> frib: will get you more chance of solving
[15:17] <frib> someone in that thread suggested it was the same as bug 1574324
[15:17] <frib> lotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1574324/comments/15
[15:18] <blackflow> macopython: blkid should say TYPE="crypto_LUKS" for luks container partitions
[15:19] <macopython> blackflow: Is it reliable to use in production grade software ?
[15:19] <blackflow> macopython: not sure I understand the question
[15:20] <macopython> blackflow: Is this method reliable enough for use in real world ?
[15:20] <frib> lotuspsychje, this is the exact description of what I have though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1608820
[15:20] <frib> what can I do?? especially if it was working fine this morning?? there must be some workaround
[15:21] <blackflow> macopython: yes. and looking at the cryptsetup manual, you can use the isLuks command too
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> frib: have you tried a pulseaudio restart also?
[15:22] <frib> lotuspsychje, wouldn't that happen on boot?
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> frib: just trying to widen your options to try
[15:23] <macopython> blackflow: Cool. Thanks :)
[15:23] <frib> lotuspsychje, thank you. but I wasn't sure if i understood your suggestion correctly
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> frib: that bug url also provides a ppa with a patch, perhaps also try?
[15:23] <frib> lotuspsychje, didn't see it
[15:23] <frib> but the last post says it is a continuation of that other bug
[15:24] <frib> ah ok in the 2nd to last post theres the ppa
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> frib: https://askubuntu.com/questions/689281/pulseaudio-can-not-load-bluetooth-module-15-10-16-04-16-10
[15:25] <frib> lotuspsychje, i already tried that
[15:25] <frib> but I realized I only get that error because those modules are already loaded
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> frib: not sure why xenial still suffers this on an updated system...
[15:25] <frib> if I use unload-module it unloads, then load-module doesn't produce an error
[15:26] <frib> lotuspsychje, sry idk what that means
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> frib: i mean your system is up to date, and you still have this bug they worked on so much
[15:26] <frib> lotuspsychje, well I already complained enough
[15:26] <frib> but i have to agree...
[15:27] <frib> for god's sake it was working this morning ...
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> frib: you sure your on latest right? make sure with sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:27] <frib> lotuspsychje, i just did a fresh install with the ubuntu iso 2 days ago max
[15:27] <frib> because i accidentally deleted my EFI partition and didn't know how to restore it
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> frib: alot of updates can happen in 2 days
[15:27] <frib> lotuspsychje, ...
[15:28] <frib> even before reinstalling my bt was working "fine"
[15:28] <tsglove> I am looking at this link, yet I can't figure out what would the *next* network card in an Ubuntu server be named. https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c#L20
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> frib: ok here's a new idea, test your blutooth in a liveusb 16.04.2
[15:28] <frib> lotuspsychje, i'm going to try this ppa first..
[15:28] <frib> no?
[15:28] <tsglove> This first is enp0s3      .... would the next card be    enp0s4    ???
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> frib: its your machine, you can do what you like
[15:28] <frib> lotuspsychje, which means?
[15:29] <frib> the ppa could create problems?
[15:29] <zb> ??
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> frib: means your choice
[15:29] <frib> oh
[15:29] <frib> well if it's worth a shot I will try it
[15:29] <frib> this guy says it worked for him
[15:29] <nacc> tsglove: it depends on the physical topology
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> frib: indeed
[15:29] <tsglove> nacc, this ubuntu server is a VM inside VirtualBox...
[15:29] <tsglove> I am not sure... what or how
[15:29] <nacc> tsglove: enp0s3 means bus 0 slot 3; enp0s4 would be bus 0 slot 4
[15:30] <frib> lotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1608820/comments/7
[15:30] <nacc> tsglove: right, so you control exactly what the 'physical' topology your VM sess is
[15:30] <frib> he says "use my version of pulse"
[15:30] <nacc> *sees
[15:30] <frib> that means?? sudo apt remove pulse?
[15:30] <frib> remove and reinstall "pulseaudio" pkg?
[15:31] <tsglove> nacc... I... I am at a loss.   How... or... how?
[15:31] <tsglove> I mean
[15:31] <tsglove> I just want that second network card to connect
[15:32] <nacc> tsglove: don't do anything and it will by default, presuming it's configured correctly in the host
[15:32] <nacc> tsglove: you have not actually said anything that is an issue, afaict
[15:32] <frib> how can I install pulseaudio from a ppa I just added instead of the official one?
[15:32] <nacc> tsglove: you pointed to a link into source (rather than the documentation of the feature?)...
[15:33] <tsglove> Well, in VirtualBox, I added the additional network card, and the server doesn't load it.
[15:33] <nacc> frib: if the ppa's version is later than the release version, it will automatically on `apt update; apt upgrade`. If not use `apt policy pulseaudio` and specify the version to install with `apt install pulseaudio=<version>`
[15:33] <nacc> tsglove: does your server show multiple network cards?
[15:34] <tsglove> no... only one if I run  ifconfig
[15:34] <tsglove> yet in virtualbox, I have added two
[15:34] <nacc> tsglove: e.g. in `ip a`
[15:34] <nacc> tsglove: what? if ifconfig shows it then your server *does* show multiple network cards...
[15:34] <frib> nacc, i don't know if the ppa's version is later or how to find out
[15:34] <nacc> tsglove: oh "only one", sorry misread
[15:34] <tsglove> nacc, ip a   does show two cards
[15:34] <nacc> frib: read the rest of what i wrote...
[15:34] <nacc> tsglove: so probably you haven't configured it properly
[15:34] <nacc> tsglove: are you using /etc/network/interfaces
[15:35] <nacc> tsglove: ?
[15:35] <frib> nacc i need to install this one  1:8.0-0ubuntu3.1~xenial9 500
[15:36] <frib> so apt install pulseaudio=?
[15:36] <tsglove> yes... just modified /etc/network/interfaces   nacc
[15:36] <tsglove> rebooting now
[15:36] <tsglove> nacc,  now it comes up in  ifconfig
[15:36] <nacc> tsglove: right.
[15:36] <tsglove> thank you!!  I am going to read   man ip    to learn what it is.
[15:36] <nacc> tsglove: nothing to do with naming
[15:36] <nacc> frib: yeah, with that version in there
[15:37] <frib> nacc, the whole 1:8.0...xenial9 ?
[15:37] <nacc> frib: yes
[15:38] <frib> nacc,  it won't do it because it says i have requested an impossible situation
[15:38] <nacc> frib: sometimes possible with PPAs that aren't maintained
[15:38] <frib> nacc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24288487/
[15:39] <nacc> frib: you will need to add libpulse0 to be from the same ppa (probably the same version)
[15:39] <nacc> frib: and maybe pulseaudio-module-x11 from the same ppa
[15:39] <frib> nacc, is it wrong that it says "but 1:8.0-0ubuntu3.2 is to be installed" ?
[15:39] <frib> when i intended 3.1
[15:39] <nacc> frib: no, read the output
[15:39] <nacc> frib: apt doens't know you want to use the ppa
[15:40] <nacc> frib: it onl knows what you told it
[15:40] <frib> nacc, i specified the version in the ppa though
[15:40] <nacc> frib: no
[15:40] <nacc> frib: you specified *one* package's version
[15:40] <nacc> frib: apt always prefers the latest version it can find, unless the package has different deps
[15:40] <frib> nacc, sorry I'm confused. i thought that was the whole point of specifying an earlier version
[15:41] <BluesKaj> frib, you have purge your current pulseaudio and pulseaudio utils in oder to use the ppa version, dur to conflicting configs etc
[15:41] <nacc> frib: yes, for *one* pacakge
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> hmm what i find weird, this bug is from 2016, says fix released and still persist on his system
[15:41] <nacc> frib: but you have to specify the version for dependencies too
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> doesnt make sense
[15:41] <nacc> lotuspsychje: true, does say fix releaseed in xenial
[15:41] <frib> BluesKaj, ok so I tried that and it still doesn't install
[15:42] <frib> i will try installing the libpulse0 from the ppa
[15:43] <nacc> frib: which PPA are you using?
[15:43] <frib> nacc, it's called "themuso"
[15:44] <cleisthenes> hello?
[15:44] <frib> nacc, i installed libpulse0, pulseaudio still wouldn't install, said I need pulseaudio-module-x11 so i tried to instal that from the same ppa, but wouldn't install
[15:44] <frib> saying i needed libpulse0 and pulseaudio as depends =S!
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> !ask | cleisthenes
[15:44] <nacc> frib: from what i can tell, the version in xenial already has the fix
[15:45] <nacc> frib: so not sensible to test the PPA
[15:45] <nacc> frib: but if you want, pastebin the command exactly
[15:45] <frib> nacc, ok
[15:45] <nacc> frib: and the exact output
[15:45] <cleisthenes> !patience
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> frib: wich kernel are you currently on?
[15:45] <frib> lotuspsychje, 4.8.0-44
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> nacc: that could be the mess this kernel?
[15:46] <frib> nacc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24288514/
[15:46] <frib> lotuspsychje, i changed kernel earlier as per your suggestion
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> frib: xenial kernel should be .71
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[15:46] <nacc> lotuspsychje: only for 4.4.
[15:47] <nacc> lotuspsychje: for 4.8 it's different
[15:47] <nacc> lotuspsychje: i think it's 4.8.0-45 now (per rmadison)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> actually anyone with hda-intel audio doesn't need pulseaudio unless they want to run multiple simultaneous audio sources, alsa suffices
[15:47] <Azulflame> I'm getting errors from aliases generating when the terminal starts (I assume from .bashrc aliases). What files / output do you need to help debug?
[15:47] <frib> should I switch back to 4.8.0-45?
[15:47] <acheron-a> 4.8.0-45 was out yesterday
[15:47] <nacc> frib: yes, you have to use *all* the options at the same time
[15:47] <nacc> frib: as in all 3 packages specified with version
[15:48] <frib> nacc, i specified the version each time, but you would have seen that in my cmd
[15:48] <frib> so maybe i'm not understanding correctly
[15:49] <rbansal1> Hello All, Just a query regarding dhcp server, it will be great if someone can help.
[15:50] <nacc> frib: not each time, all at once
[15:50] <nacc> frib: so you will have three packages with versions on the line
[15:50] <rbansal1> Is it possible to run the dhcpd on the secondary IP of the interface, I meant if I have added an IP to an interface using "ip" command, and the primary IP is some different IP. The subnet which I have configured in the dhcpd.conf file is for the secondary IP. Will the dhcpd run on the interface.
[15:50] <BluesKaj> rbansal1, more details please
[15:51] <BluesKaj> oops
[15:51] <rbansal1> In my case I don't see it runs, it throws an error saying no subnet is configured for the primary IP in the dhcpd.conf.
[15:51] <nacc> rbansal1: i believe you can tell dhcpd what interface to liste on
[15:51] <rbansal1> It is listening on eth0 interface.
[15:51] <nacc> rbansal1: if it throws an error ... it's not running
[15:51] <frib> nacc, ok i think i understand, i will try
[15:51] <hoovsec> happy Friday everyone
[15:52] <hoovsec> or $EndOfWorkWeekDay for those of you in timezones were it's not Friday
[15:52] <Azulflame> new terminal window: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24288523/  .bashrc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24288519/ suspect line 111. What's causing the alias errors?
[15:53] <scottjl> rbansal1: yes. don't worry about configuring the interface, configure the subnet. it will figure out where to serve it.
[15:53] <nacc> Azulflame: missing trailing ' on line 106
[15:53] <nacc> Azulflame: pretty obvious with the syntax highlighting...
[15:54] <nacc> Azulflame: also line 106 is gibberish :)
[15:54] <BluesKaj> rbansal1,  if yopu're on systemd the ethernet name is no longer eth0 , run ip adr to see the new assigned name
[15:54] <scottjl> rbansal1: if you're using isc-dhcpd that is. that's what i use and i have it serving multiple aliases on my nic.
[15:54] <BluesKaj> rbansal1, ip addr
[15:54] <Azulflame> I"m doing it in Nano, so no highlighting for me
[15:54] <jeffreylevesque_> trying to start `syslog-ng`, and getting "Execution of '/etc/init.d/syslog-ng start' returned 1: * Starting system logging syslog-ng"
[15:54] <nacc> Azulflame: you just pasted it
[15:54] <nacc> Azulflame: and the paste has highlighting...
[15:55] <jeffreylevesque_> do i have to configure anything specific?
[15:55] <Azulflame> to be honest, I didn't review the paste except to see that it all pasted
[15:55] <nacc> Azulflame: ok, was an fyi
[15:56] <Azulflame> and thanks for pointing out the rtv alias redundancy/error
[15:56] <frib> nacc, this will not be affected by changing back to kernel 45 right?
[15:58] <frib> nacc, in the end the full cmd was: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24288556/ and it installed everything
[15:58] <Azulflame> How would you set the .bashrc file to use BASH syntax highlighting in nano?
[15:58] <frib> i will try to reboot and see what happens
[15:58] <nacc> frib: no, it seems unrelated
[16:03] <frib> nacc, after reboot the system font has changed (?) and the PA module 'module-bluez5-discover' which I usually need to connect to my BT device is not and cannot be loaded
[16:04] <hoovsec> Time appropriate greetings, would any of you by chance have some time to discuss a touchpad issue I can't seem to find a workaround for?
[16:04] <frib> not sure what this all means
[16:04] <zzero1> How can I get a # prompt with a gpg passphrase ?
[16:04] <anddam> in System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Universal Access   I have Alt+Super+8 for "Turn zoom on or off", yet when I use the keys combination I have no effects
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> !ask | hoovsec
[16:04] <anddam> this is 16.04, what could be the issue?
[16:05] <hoovsec> ack on the asking to ask. hah. sorry, trying not to be rude.
[16:05] <Azulflame> hoovsec, what laptop are you using?
[16:05] <hoovsec> I have a Samsung NP-QX410-S02US that is registering my Elantech Touchpad and everything seems to work fine except for one particular thing that's actually causing me some trouble.
[16:05] <nacc> frib: i dont know, perhaps the ppa's pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is broken
[16:06] <hoovsec> It registered multitouch-scrolling when I try to left click
[16:06] <frib> nacc, what would you reccommend doing at this point?
[16:06] <Azulflame> is there something on the touchpad? Your palm, perhaps? or is the touchpad stuck?
[16:06] <nacc> frib: i would purge the ppa, as i said, i don't think it would fix it
[16:06] <hoovsec> I can literally keep one finger on my right hand on the touchpad and touch somewhere else on the touchpad and it'll scroll the page
[16:06] <nacc> !ppa-purge | frib
[16:06] <Azulflame> barring those, it's likely a driver issue
[16:07] <hoovsec> @Azulflame it's all been taken apart, cleaned, works fine if I don't touch when I click. I don't remember having this issue before, but it's been awhile since it ran a Linux distort. heh
[16:08] <hoovsec> distro*
[16:08] <anddam> in the Universal Access panel I don't see any voice related to "zoom", should I have one? am I missing some Unity control panel package?