[03:01] <adventchild> tristanmike: so i should do....  im new to linux... dont know much at all
[03:01] <_jason> Cooner750: ok well what seems to be happening is that plf is correctly using the new location for the codecs but mplayer isn't seeing them.  This *should* fix you up: sudo rmdir /usr/lib/win32 && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/codecs /usr/lib/win32
[03:01] <tristanmike> adventchild: sure mplayer is great
[03:01] <BerryAllen> i dont know why i try to use that experimental distros :) back to my ond and good gentoo.
[03:02] <tristanmike> adventchild: just do this..."sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"  that will take care of it for you
[03:02] <kevin> well thanks all, going to call it a night, will try again tomorrow :)
[03:02] <tristanmike> good night kevin
[03:02] <adventchild> tristanmike: ty
[03:02] <tristanmike> adventchild: np
[03:03] <Nihil85> hi
[03:03] <Cooner750> how do I restart ESD
[03:03] <Cooner750> ?
[03:03] <Cooner750> It quit...
[03:03] <_jason> Cooner750: alt-f2, enter 'esd' I think
[03:04] <conn> hi, does anyone here have a Dell Inspiron 8000?
[03:04] <_jason> Cooner750: 8200, should be similar
[03:04] <_jason> conn: ^
[03:04] <Nihil85> i wanted to know how to insert an ASCII code with ubuntu... I tried to type [Alt] +152 (for ex.) but it doesn't work...
[03:04] <Cooner750> I do a test on ESD and nothing happens now. It appears to work but no sound
[03:04] <cello_rasp> how do i burn an audio dvd in ubuntu? dvds +cds are both iso9660 so its possible in theory
[03:05] <vladuz976> what distro does linus torvalds use?
[03:05] <_jason> Cooner750: do you have anything playing sound?
[03:05] <conn> _jason: I have a very specific prob, but just in case.. are your page up/down keys working?
[03:05] <_jason> conn: yes
[03:05] <conn> ok, thx
[03:05] <scorchsaber> vladuz976: Maybe Windows :P
[03:05] <Nihil85> can anyone help me?
[03:05] <Nihil85> i wanted to know how to insert an ASCII code with ubuntu... I tried to type [Alt] +152 (for ex.) but it doesn't work...
[03:05] <Cooner750> No. Mplayer was before it crashed and I had to Force Quit it. Should I reboot?
[03:05] <wvelez> Nihil85: gucharmap
[03:05] <vladuz976> scorchsaber: yeah and i am wondering if bill gates might be using linux
[03:05] <swalchy> can someone help?
[03:05] <_jason> Cooner750: that would be the quickest way probably, but we can fish around if you prefer
[03:05] <Cooner750> Well. I have to go. At least I know the video works now :)
[03:05] <swalchy> how do I install ndsiwrapper?
[03:05] <Nihil85> wvelez, what's gucharmap?
[03:06] <scorchsaber> vladuz976: :D
[03:06] <tristanmike> swalchy: "sudo apt-get install ndsiwrapper"  iirc
[03:06] <_jason> Cooner750: so that link fixed up the video?
[03:06] <wvelez> Nihil85: gucharmap...so you can use different characters...
[03:06] <scorchsaber> vladuz976: Always watch the competition, eh?
[03:06] <adventchild> tristanmike: how would i go about uninstalling all the other stuff i put on here? like totem-xine? and the codecs that i installed, do i still need them for mplayer?
[03:06] <Cooner750> Yea. thanks :)
[03:06] <Cooner750> I'll have to make note of those
[03:06] <vladuz976> scorchsaber: i guess. but i wouldn'
[03:06] <swalchy> do that in terminal do I mike?
[03:06] <Nihil85> wvelez, i will try to find the same in my language, thanks
[03:06] <_jason> Cooner750: more recent packages of mplayer should find that directory with no problem
[03:07] <vladuz976> scorchsaber: i wouldn't be surprised if he really played around with linux at home, for fun
[03:07] <scorchsaber> vladuz976: Somehow I doubt it, but maybe that'
[03:07] <wvelez> Nihil85: gucharmap is installed by default in breezy
[03:07] <scorchsaber> shoot
[03:07] <scorchsaber> maybe that's just me
[03:07] <kbrooks> benchmarks & performance: how benchmarks suck for gauging performance. http://kbrooks.ath.cx/?p=34
[03:08] <orbin> adventchild: i'd leave it if you ask me.  totem's actually pretty nice.  search the forum, there's proabbly one small audio codec you're missing.
[03:08] <Nihil85> wvelez, i can't find that gucharmap in my breezy
[03:08] <bimberi> Seveas: can I /msg you?
[03:08] <scott_> uh oh. do you have to be in the group sudo to sudo? what if you accidently got rid of all your groups (by not appending with usermod) and so now you can't sudo to add yourself back to the group?
[03:09] <hellz_hunter> hey how is it going?
[03:09] <Seveas> bimberi, sure
[03:09] <troy__> hi
[03:09] <_jason> scott_: admin is the group you want, reboot in recovery mode and 'adduser your_user admin'
[03:09] <nismo> What is a good program for gnome that can enhance its look, ive been to gnome-look.org but im looking for something like widget type... any ideas?
[03:09] <Seveas> scott_, you should *NOT* be in the sudo group
[03:09] <troy__> has anyone installed GLX?
[03:09] <adventchild> orbin: i will b/c i am getting an external hd enclosure tomorrow...   the problem is that i only have a 5gb hd on this laptop...  wanted to make some room...  but i guess i will leave it as is
[03:09] <troy__> has anyone installed XGL??? sorry
[03:09] <hellz_hunter> i know this isnt kubuntu, but i have a question about installation (since i believe they are both the same thing)
[03:09] <Seveas> !xgl
[03:10] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:10] <adventchild> orbin: ty
[03:10] <nismo> "{
[03:10] <sistemas2> hola
[03:10] <_jason> nismo: try gdesklets
[03:10] <hellz_hunter> has anyone had any troubles during installation where xwindows gets started and instead of running the necessary desktop environment, you get stuck with the grey test window with a mouse pointer in the middle?
[03:10] <nismo> were can i get that at?
[03:10] <nismo> like what site
[03:11] <orbin> hellz_hunter: that is X iirc
[03:11] <tristanmike> nismo: "sudo apt-get install gdesklets"
[03:11] <scorchsaber> hellz_hunter: Yes, but that was with another distro
[03:11] <_jason> !info gdesklets
[03:11] <ubotu> gdesklets: (Architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.35.2-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 404 kB, Installed size: 2260 kB
[03:11] <scorchsaber> hellz_hunter: I never fixed it
[03:11] <_jason> nismo: have you enabled the universe repository?
[03:11] <nismo> is there a site were i can see how it works or sn's of it?
[03:11] <Toma-> wow... whats with all the voices?
[03:11] <Seveas> Toma-, accident
[03:11] <tristanmike> nismo: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[03:11] <hellz_hunter> scorchsaber never fixed what?
[03:11] <Toma-> ouch :D
[03:11] <hellz_hunter> scorchsaber what distro i mean?
[03:12] <tristanmike> Toma-: undoing a mess from earlier
[03:12] <nismo> lemme cehck it out than i'll see if i wanna get it
[03:12] <Toma-> someone tip over the voice box? XD
[03:12] <adventchild> orbin, tristanmike: ty for your help...  all of a sudden totem is playing audio and vid...
[03:12] <Blarion> what are gdesklets?
[03:12] <scorchsaber> hellz_hunter: Slax. Slackware on live CD
[03:13] <_jason> !gdesklets
[03:13] <Blarion> Keep hearing about em
[03:13] <adventchild> orbin, tristanmike: o well
[03:13] <rsyncx> is there a way to install specific package version on ubuntu?
[03:13] <ubotu> from memory, gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[03:13] <Blarion> no idea
[03:13] <rsyncx> throught apt-get?
[03:13] <orbin> adventchild: lol, how's the quality?
[03:13] <skynet> How do I get permission to drag and drop a folder into the USR folder?
[03:13] <tristanmike> Blarion: little programs that run on your desktop and do neat things like display the weather or give you a "mac osx" style dock
[03:13] <Seveas> skynet, you shouldn't want that
[03:13] <_jason> skynet: what are you trying to do?
[03:13] <adventchild> orbin: better, but not up to par with the way it was with M$
[03:13] <anonobomber> does anyone know how I could implement python into the ubuntu installer so that I could run python scripts to suppliment the installation of it?
[03:13] <Blarion> sounds cool
[03:13] <hellz_hunter> scorchsaber i just left slackware, trying out kubuntu, but im getting that grey screen when it goes from installation to starting x
[03:13] <adventchild> orbin: much better tho...  ty
[03:13] <Blarion> kinda like widgets in mac os?
[03:14] <skynet> I downloaded a ZIP file that has files that need to go into the USR folder
[03:14] <adventchild> orbin: could barely see anything before...
[03:14] <swalchy> hoe do change to directories and stuff?
[03:14] <_jason> skynet: what are you trying to install?
[03:14] <swalchy> cd c:\ndiswrapper1.12 ?
[03:14] <skynet> SDL1.2.9
[03:14] <tristanmike> Blarion: similar, yes
[03:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell swalchy about cli
[03:15] <adventchild> !cli
[03:15] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[03:15] <skynet> _jason: SDL
[03:15] <orbin> skynet: sdl 1.2.7 is in the repos
[03:15] <adventchild> !sql
[03:15] <ubotu> adventchild: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:15] <scorchsaber> ubotu: And here was me thinking "Common Language Infrastructure". My mistake
[03:15] <ubotu> scorchsaber: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:16] <scorchsaber> eh--what?
[03:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell scorchsaber about yourself
[03:16] <skynet> orbin: Not quite sure what you mean, I'm somewhat new...
[03:16] <skynet> orbin: im on the repos menu now
[03:16] <Stealth_> Someone mind helping me fix my HP printer?
[03:17] <assfadf> !multiverse
[03:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:17] <IdleOne> !print
[03:17] <ubotu> print is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:17] <odin> I don't need to download anything to get dual-monitor display, I can just mod X11.config, right?
[03:17] <_jason> skynet: do you know about synaptic?
[03:17] <scorchsaber> Jesus Christ. Thats the second time I've fallen for a bot
[03:17] <adventchild> Stealth_: what seems to be the problem?
[03:17] <tristanmike> !language
[03:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:17] <_jason> scorchsaber: hehe
[03:17] <scorchsaber> I need to start talking to real people.....
[03:17] <skynet> _jason: Yes, should I just do a search in the synaptic screen?
[03:17] <conn> hi, I can't get the page up/down keys working on my laptop, xev isn't recognising them and the kernel log shows no messages when they're pressed, can someone suggest anything I can do to try to fix it?
[03:17] <tristanmike> scorchsaber: sometimes ubotu is the smartest one here :P
[03:17] <_jason> skynet: yes, search for libsdl
[03:17] <Stealth_> advent: all right, i had updated this machine to dapper, looks like it broke printing, reverted back to breezy, still not working...
[03:18] <adventchild> conn: i have the same problem, but i have a latitude CPTS
[03:18] <Stealth_> advent: it all seems fine, pritner detected in the Print Manager, but test page not working
[03:18] <scorchsaber> dude, I just read him saying stuff-I think he's helping people, but jesus, he's a bot!
[03:18] <scorchsaber> (or she)
[03:18] <odin> yes, let's be equal-opportunists for our bots!
[03:18] <adventchild> Stealth_: have you had problems with the printer before?
[03:18] <odin> be they bots or fembots
[03:19] <Stealth_> advent: and I had this thing working over the LAN b4, now its directly ocnnect and it STILl wont work
[03:19] <conn> adventchild: does every other key work fine?
[03:19] <scorchsaber> yes
[03:19] <rsyncx> hello? how do i install upgraded version of a package? is the way to specify specific advanced version of packge to be installed?
[03:19] <scorchsaber> indeed.
[03:19] <adventchild> conn: yup
[03:19] <_Marek_> i need to install mplayer for dapper drake, anyone can help?
[03:19] <adventchild> conn: well...
[03:19] <_Marek_> it's not available
[03:19] <IdleOne> scorchsaber, ubotu provides links to common and uncommon help ppl asks for so it is used alot to point ppl to the correct page :)
[03:19] <adventchild> conn: sometimes the i, j, and k keys dont work
[03:19] <scorchsaber> IdleOne...bleh
[03:19] <Stealth_> advent: no, after dapper or sumthin seems it got borked, used to be fine
[03:19] <clue> hi
[03:19] <adventchild> conn: maybe thats a keyboard problem tho...
[03:19] <TruckerMan> wheres that swalchy ?
[03:19] <_jason> _Marek_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[03:20] <TruckerMan> you there swalchy ?
[03:20] <adventchild> Stealth_: so it sees the printer and all, just wont print?
[03:20] <conn> adventchild: ok
[03:20] <Stealth_> advent: yes
[03:20] <odin> so does anybody know if all I need to do to get dual-monitor display is modify X11.config for 2 Screens/Monitors?
[03:20] <shrewduser> could i have an opinion: what is the best free native linux game?
[03:20] <orbin> rsyncx: apt-get install <package> gets the latest one, or you can do the upgrade thing via synaptic
[03:20] <IdleOne> scorchsaber, the reason ppl are pointed to the wiki pages is so they can learn/teach themself how to do things but if you get stuck you are more then welcome to ask in here :)
[03:20] <adventchild> Stealth_: have you tried printing a doc? or just a test page?
[03:20] <abuchbinder> Does anyone here know how to compile a single .c file into a kernel module? I have kernel headers; I just don't want to recompile the entire kernel. I found tutorials on compiling the whole kernel, but nothing about a single module.
[03:21] <tristanmike> shrewduser: what type of game? action, rpg, fps ? what?
[03:21] <orbin> shrewduser: frozen bubble is very popular
[03:21] <rsyncx> orbin, in current level of distro, how would i go forward, if i want to insall new packages.
[03:21] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: what module are you trying to compile?
[03:21] <rsyncx> orbin, i want o install newer version of some development tools, but i don't fancy upgrading whole distro
[03:21] <Stealth_> advent: test page, from gedit, from Ooo, nothing
[03:21] <odin> are there actually some good games for Linux?  I heard that Linux's gamescope was very limited
[03:21] <shrewduser> tristanmike: i'm into most genre's, really just wondering what's considered "best" regardless of genre
[03:21] <rsyncx> orbin, and getting all the rest of bugs with it.
[03:21] <adventchild> Stealth_: hm...
[03:21] <orbin> rsyncx: what tools specifically
[03:21] <Stealth_> odin: neverball is pretty cool! :D
[03:21] <tristanmike> shrewduser: I like America's army and Enemy Territory
[03:22] <shrewduser> ta
[03:22] <adventchild> Stealth_: does it start the job? like does the printer warm up?
[03:22] <tristanmike> shrewduser: also BoS is really good
[03:22] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: A modified version of xpad.c.
[03:22] <odin> out of curiousity, does anybody own a gp2x, the handheld that runs Linux?
[03:22] <orbin> rsyncx: most updates are for security reasons.  you could go w/ backports, but you risk breakage iirc
[03:22] <rsyncx> orbin, ruby
[03:22] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: The stock version treats the D-pad as axes, and I need it treated as buttons so I can play DDR.
[03:22] <rsyncx> orbin, won't backports upgrade my whole distro?
[03:22] <Stealth_> advent: nope, b4 it used to turn the printer on, make noise, print, now it just stays off
[03:22] <nalioth> rsyncx: they will not
[03:22] <stanna> azureus has been removed from ubuntu? or goes by a different name?
[03:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell stanna about azureus
[03:23] <shrewduser> tristenmike: BoS?
[03:23] <bill_wad> anyone want to help with a OmniBook 900 sound problem?
[03:23] <tristanmike> shrewduser: Battle of Survival
[03:23] <stanna> thanks dude
[03:23] <orbin> rsyncx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:23] <shrewduser> tristenmike: what genre?
[03:23] <adventchild> Stealth_: did you try turning the printer on manually? and does the printer have a test page button on itsself?
[03:23] <tristanmike> shrewduser: like starcraft
[03:23] <stanna> i forgot about the wiki :)
[03:23] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: gcc -o foo foo.c
[03:24] <shrewduser> tristenmike: starcraft esque quality?
[03:24] <odin> ooo, Real-Time Strategy
[03:24] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: No, it's a kernel module. That doesn't work. I get a whole heap of errors.
[03:24] <tristanmike> shrewduser: well it isn't developed by a multi million dollar coporation, if that's what you're asking...:P
[03:24] <orbin> rsyncx: what version of ruby are you after?
[03:24] <Stealth_> advent: just tried from ooo, turned it on manually, pressed a little button with an arrow on it, just flash orange upon press, still nothing...
[03:24] <shrewduser> tristenmike: gotchya, i'll go look at a screen grab :)
[03:24] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: you need to write a makefile for it
[03:25] <rsyncx> orbin, 1.8.4
[03:25] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: Is there a template Makefile somewhere?
[03:25] <adventchild> Stealth_: maybe try uninstalling the printer and install it again?  maybe that would work seeing as it worked before you did your update
[03:25] <sean> It seems that the people who are being denied the permission to talk all begin with the same letter
[03:26] <Stealth_> advent: i have multiple times, no go :(
[03:26] <orbin> rsyncx: well, 1.9 is in universe
[03:26] <sean> I know little about IRC - are those people simple bots with randomly generated names?
[03:26] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: look at some other module source's makefile, they're not much different from one another except for a couple paramaters
[03:26] <HedgeMage> sean: -v doesn't do anything, the chan isn't moderated.
[03:26] <adventchild> Stealth_: hm...  but the printer its self wont work either huh?
[03:26] <shrewduser> it would be really nice to have an open source CounterStrike clone....
[03:26] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: makefiles in the kernel source for driver modules would work
[03:26] <TheseAre> http://gentlenews.com/theshow/ Live in 5 minutes
[03:26] <swalchy> right
[03:26] <Stealth_> advent: waht i dont get is if i just cleanly installed breezy, why it still wont work, it must be a configuration file in the home partition, seeing as how ive kept that the whole way through
[03:26] <swalchy> I'm installing ndiswrapper
[03:26] <vinboy_> can I resize my partition without formatting it?
[03:26] <conn> where's the most convenient place to put startup scripts?
[03:26] <swalchy> now the instructions say to get intot he directory and run "make"
[03:27] <Stealth_> advent: no, printer still aint doin its job -.-
[03:27] <HedgeMage> sean: a newbie staffer (me) accidentally +v everyone and the chanops are fixing slowly so as not to re-spam
[03:27] <orbin> sean: they're just working their way thru the list
[03:27] <swalchy> but it then says
[03:27] <adventchild> Stealth_: do you have another box to hook it up to?
[03:27] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: Those makefiles in the kernel source are recursive makefiles; they're not complete in and of themselves.
[03:27] <amphi> HedgeMage: ;)
[03:27] <Stealth_> advent: is there a way to clear every printer related configuration off and reinstall it?
[03:27] <Xenguy> conn: they should go in /etc/init.d
[03:27] <swalchy> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-389/build
[03:27] <swalchy> ..what is that?
[03:27] <Stealth_> advent: yea...
[03:27] <swalchy> anyone?
[03:27] <amphi> swalchy: normally a symlink
[03:27] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: I also tried copying xpad.c into the kernel build directory and doing 'make xpad', but that failed as well. I don't want to have to build the entire kernel.
[03:27] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: thats okay, you'll have to provide the SUBDIRS paramater to make
[03:27] <swalchy> how do I correct it?
[03:27] <adventchild> Stealth_: to be honest, i dont know much about linux...  try hooking it to the other box...
[03:27] <sean> what is -/+v?
[03:28] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: Huh?
[03:28] <tristanmike> sean: take/give voice, the ability to speak
[03:28] <amphi> swalchy: it points to the kernel source tree
[03:28] <conn> Xenguy: I mean custom scripts, for example, just to add keys to xmodmap
[03:28] <bill_wad> no takers for debugging the sound on OB900?
[03:28] <ubuntu2> Hey is it possible to replace the kernal of an installation with only a live cd?
[03:28] <Stealth_> advent: ok, lemme go grab my laptop...
[03:28] <swalchy> right
[03:28] <insta> I'm having some problems with using Ubuntu as a server machine ... my other Ubuntu boxes are unable to mount an NFS share, saying RPC has timed out.  Where should I start looking?
[03:28] <swalchy> ..what's that mean? xD
[03:28] <adventchild> Stealth_: if it still doesnt work, possibly something fried the printer?
[03:28] <Xenguy> conn: using gnome?
[03:28] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: I'd help you out more but I'm really busy now
[03:28] <HedgeMage> sean: voice/devoice... it controls the ability to talk in moderated chans
[03:28] <conn> Xenguy: nope, kde
[03:29] <Xenguy> conn: dunno
[03:29] <sean> New to me!
[03:29] <swalchy> *cries*
[03:29] <swalchy> this is all so confusing!
[03:29] <Stealth_> advent: well, laptop doesnt have a parallel port :P but no, I know tihs printer is working fine, just not on this machine under Ubuntu
[03:29] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: No problem.
[03:29] <rsyncx> is there masking files in debian like in gentoo? lol
[03:29] <rsyncx> i am gentoo noob
[03:29] <amphi> swalchy: have you installed the kernel source package?
[03:29] <adventchild> Stealth_: hm...  do you have a seperate partition you can try to load another os in and try it?
[03:30] <swalchy> depends
[03:30] <orbin> rsyncx: did you get my last message?
[03:30] <swalchy> how would i do that?
[03:30] <insta> Anyone?
[03:30] <anonobomber> abuchbinder: iirc the makefile for megaraid sources from lsi would be a good example to work from
[03:30] <Stealth_> advent: this machine has Win2k on dualboot, ill go in there and try it, bb then
[03:30] <rsyncx> rsyncx, rails won't work with 1.9
[03:30] <abuchbinder> anonobomber: Thanks.
[03:30] <adventchild> Stealth_: other than that idk...  sry....  maybe someone else would be able to help more/
[03:30] <rsyncx> orbin, rails won't work with 1.9
[03:30] <adventchild> gl
[03:30] <swalchy> it in the synaptic thing amphi?
[03:31] <Stealth_> advent: np man, looking through the forums, this is for some really experienced cupsys user or sumthin! :D
[03:31] <rsyncx> orbin, is there way to install stuff, besides manually downloading package and doing dpkg install?
[03:31] <rsyncx> orbin, if you want specific version.
[03:31] <insta> I'm having some problems with using Ubuntu as a server machine ... my other Ubuntu boxes are unable to mount an NFS share, saying RPC has timed out.  Where should I start looking?
[03:32] <orbin> rsyncx: seems liek the best way to do it to me
[03:32] <adventchild> is there any way to make the visualization in rythembox do on the desktop as the background?
[03:32] <adventchild> go*
[03:32] <orbin> rsyncx: what are masking files?
[03:32] <swalchy> where's this Kernel source package?
[03:32] <DonL> Anybody know of a way of making the Xfce4 weather applet work in Gnome?
[03:33] <orbin> DonL: don't fancy gnome's applet?
[03:33] <DonL> orbin, yes, but it's sometime a couple days late, and I really like the Xfce one
[03:33] <tooleh> Hey guys
[03:33] <tooleh> Was wondering if I could get a little help
[03:33] <tooleh> (distro wont boot)
[03:33] <TruckerMan> swalchy did you try Synaptic?
[03:34] <tooleh> Uh hi?
[03:34] <rsyncx> orbin, masking in gentoo allows you to specify range of versions that is allowed to be installed on your machine.  you can override range of packages, even the ones to be released in the future for next level of distro.
[03:34] <swalchy> whatc architecture is Ubuntu built on?
[03:34] <adventchild> does anyone know if there is any way to make the visualization in rythembox go on the desktop as the background?
[03:34] <orbin> DonL: my guess is no
[03:34] <TruckerMan> Debian
[03:35] <rsyncx> orbin, often stuff available fast, but at your own risk :-)
[03:35] <DonL> Okay, orbin , thanks
[03:35] <Seveas> swalchy, what do you mean with architecture?
[03:35] <TruckerMan> Debian i though
[03:35] <swalchy> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/wireless-tools
[03:35] <TruckerMan> t
[03:35] <swalchy> I need to know which one to download
[03:35] <tooleh> Basically I copied my fonts from windows and then reconfigured my fonts. Now, x/any x application will not load. :( - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=892064#post892064
[03:35] <swalchy> ooh
[03:35] <swalchy> truckerman!
[03:35] <rsyncx> orbin, but I want to try something new, since gentoo been braking on me alot
[03:35] <adventchild> debian
[03:35] <TruckerMan> swalchy, just use symantec
[03:35] <swalchy> how did you install ndiswrapper? >.>
[03:35] <tooleh> :/
[03:35] <Seveas> swalchy, none - never use packages from debian on ubuntu
[03:35] <TruckerMan> hehe, i'm online with ubuntu
[03:35] <swalchy> tell me
[03:35] <tooleh> Can anyone see my messages?
[03:35] <orbin> DonL: actually, you can.  run xfce4-panel
[03:35] <TruckerMan> it was easy
[03:35] <swalchy> what's this kernel source package I need to install?
[03:35] <tristanmike> tooleh: I can
[03:35] <rsyncx> orbin, so naturally when you have a hammer everything else looks like a nail ;-)
[03:35] <adventchild> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper?
[03:36] <swalchy> tried that
[03:36] <swalchy> didn't like it
[03:36] <DonL> orbin, under gnome?
[03:36] <orbin> DonL: but that brings in the whole panel, not just the applet
[03:36] <tooleh> Cool. ETA on some help?
[03:36] <DonL> Ah. I see.
[03:36] <TruckerMan> errrr synamptic err whatever
[03:36] <Xenguy> !patience
[03:36] <adventchild> sudo aptitude ndiswrapper?
[03:36] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[03:36] <Seveas> tooleh, where does the booting stop?
[03:36] <tooleh> fair enough.
[03:36] <tooleh> ah, well it stops when it tries to load x
[03:36] <swalchy> is it this nfs-kernel-server thing I need to install?
[03:37] <tooleh> ie it starts loading it, I see the cursor, and it dies back to prompt
[03:37] <TruckerMan> swalchy, just use that wiki thing you directed me to
[03:37] <orbin> rsyncx: i think you can do something like "lock the version" via synaptic
[03:37] <tooleh> tries that a few times then tells me that I'm screwed.
[03:37] <swalchy> with the drivers on?
[03:37] <orbin> rsyncx: i don't know if it's as powerful as the gentoo method though
[03:37] <Seveas> tooleh, what does your xorg log say?
[03:37] <DonL> orbin, I'm torn. I love the beauty and simplicity of Xfce, and I like the functionality and maturity of Gnome
[03:37] <tooleh> I have no idea, how would I get it? (I'm on windows at the moment, cannot boot to ubuntu)
[03:38] <adventchild> does anyone know if there is any way to make the visualization in rythembox the desktop background?
[03:38] <swalchy> this is annoying
[03:38] <Seveas> tooleh, in the command line: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:38] <rsyncx> DonL, it looses my settings when i shut down with ctrl-alt-backspace every time
[03:38] <rsyncx> DonL, xfce
[03:38] <TruckerMan> i used the .deb packages for the gtk and the  util and used the command line to install them then used the gtk thing to config the card, use the list to find the best driver too
[03:38] <orbin> DonL: :)  i like xfce, but it looks horrible on screens that can't go higher than 1024x768 imo.  everything's too big.  gnome lets you shrink a lot of stuff down
[03:39] <TruckerMan> i gotta split, swalchy, either i got lucky or its realy dasier then youre making
[03:39] <ubuntu2> on a live cd what do I do to mount a harddrive?
[03:39] <DonL> rsyncx, It never does for me. I can pick and choose between the two, and never have a problem
[03:39] <tooleh> seveas: Shall I go boot to ubuntu now and write it down? (I have no way of getting the info back into windows direct)
[03:39] <orbin> adventchild: i'll put you out of your misery and say probably not
[03:39] <pulgoki> does debian have rss feeds on security alerts?
[03:39] <TruckerMan> or something but i gotta go, peace
[03:39] <adventchild> orbin: lol ty
[03:39] <tooleh> seveas: Shall I try open it in the live boot?
[03:40] <DonL> orbin, that's what I use... 1024 x 768
[03:40] <adventchild> orbin: that would be kind of cool....  i can in window$ :(
[03:40] <Seveas> tooleh, that would probably be the easiest
[03:40] <swalchy> huh? what
[03:40] <swalchy> ..damnit
[03:40] <tooleh> seveas: Ok, I'll be back in a bit - I'll try get IRC on the live distro
[03:40] <tooleh> :)
[03:41] <orbin> DonL: like i said, it's nice.  but i like to have a larger workspace area than what xfce gives
[03:41] <scorchsaber>  What IS voice, anyway?
[03:41] <ubuntu2> What do I do to mount a HD on a live cd?
[03:41] <adventchild> !tell scorchsaber about voice
[03:41] <Seveas> ubuntu2, system->admin->disks
[03:41] <DonL> orbin. Ah. I wish I could go bigger as well. A friend has a Mac with a 30 inch screen. It's awesome
[03:41] <adventchild> voice means you can talk i believe
[03:42] <ubuntu2> thanks
[03:42] <Seveas> !forget drxx
[03:42] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot drxx
[03:42] <Seveas> dabaR, please stop adding that
[03:42] <swalchy> time to break the forums
[03:42] <ubuntu2> Seveas, any chance you know if there's a way I can't sort of drop in a kernel to replace a broken  one?
[03:42] <orbin> scorchsaber: <HedgeMage> sean: voice/devoice... it controls the ability to talk in moderated chans
[03:42] <adventchild> !hugs for the room
[03:42] <adventchild> !hug
[03:42] <ubotu> ubotu gives adventchild a hug.  There, there, is that better?
[03:42] <DonL> haha
[03:43] <adventchild> kind of thanks ubotu
[03:43] <orbin> ubuntu2: waht FS is it formatted as?
[03:43] <scorchsaber> !****
[03:43] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scorchsaber
[03:43] <scorchsaber> damn
[03:43] <scorchsaber> didn't work
[03:43] <Seveas> !hug =~ s/ubotu/<action>/
[03:43] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[03:43] <ubuntu2> ext3 regular ubuntu install.
[03:44] <adventchild> Seveas: what did that do?
[03:44] <orbin> get a room if ayou want to play w/ it :) : /msg ubotu
[03:44] <ubuntu2> I tried reinstalling but leaving files intact but it gave me kernal choices of that was there.
[03:44] <scorchsaber> what's with all the voice removal?
[03:44] <cafuego_> !seveas =~ s/brain/donut/
[03:44] <ubotu> cafuego_: that doesn't contain 'brain'
[03:44] <Seveas> scorchsaber, we told you bedore already....
[03:45] <jaye> i was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a doc for making a patch?
[03:45] <Seveas> cafuego, hehe, ubotu's reply is surprisingly appropriate ;)
[03:45] <adventchild> !hug scorchsaber
[03:45] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[03:45] <cafuego_> Seveas: I wasn't going to say anything .. ;-)
[03:45] <prospero2005> Anyone know how I access Login Screen Setup
[03:45] <adventchild> lol
[03:45] <Seveas> prospero2005, system  admin  login screen
[03:46] <prospero2005> thank you
[03:46] <DonL> Must go. Thanks for the help.
[03:46] <BostonBubz> Does anyone know how to make the keyboard volume controls change the analog front rather than analog center???
[03:46] <adventchild> anyone have any neat ideas for a newbie in linux to do? (easy nifty stuff)
[03:46] <jaye> prospero2005: or gdmsetup as root
[03:46] <Seveas> adventchild, nautilus /usr/share/doc
[03:47] <Seveas> and browse around ;)
[03:47] <adventchild> ty
[03:47] <prospero2005> Actually,I'm using kubuntu
[03:47] <Howdy125> Will someone please send me an unaltered flight 6 source.list ...
[03:47] <prospero2005> Having a problem finding system->admin
[03:47] <Seveas> Howdy125, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6666
[03:47] <orbin> prospero2005: heh, you probably would
[03:48] <SysFail> whats that script for dapper thats like automatix??
[03:48] <ubuntu_rocks> easy ubuntu
[03:48] <tristanmike> !automatix
[03:48] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:48] <orbin> prospero2005: there's #kubuntu and #kde if no one answers in here
[03:48] <prospero2005> Essentially, I want to enable xdmcp
[03:48] <adventchild> whats better? frostwire or BT? ::iyo::
[03:48] <BostonBubz> anyone familiar with configuring a keyboard for alsamixer?
[03:48] <SysFail> says automatix wont work with dapper for some reason
[03:49] <adventchild> how do you do polls in rooms?
[03:49] <ubuntu_rocks> Sysfail: try easyubuntu
[03:49] <Seveas> SysFail, automatix is crap anyway
[03:49] <SysFail> ok
[03:49] <tristanmike> !easyubuntu
[03:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[03:49] <ubuntu2> So does anyone know if there is a way to replace the kernal of an existing ubunt installation via a livecd?
[03:49] <korben> newbie question, is it going to break things if I remove ubuntu-standard?
[03:49] <orbin> adventchild: this is primarily a support channel  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:49] <SysFail> thats the one
[03:49] <SysFail> thanks guys
[03:49] <Howdy125> ty Seveas
[03:49] <zezu> how do i pass lib dir to search for shared objects to gcc/g++ ?
[03:49] <Stealth870> advent: lol, guess what, I'm under a LiveCD of Warty and the printer works -.-
[03:50] <zezu> i'm getting an error in something i'm writing saying it can't find a .so file that is in /usr/local/lib/
[03:50] <Seveas> zezu, -L/path/to/libdir
[03:50] <amphi> ubuntu2: you could boot off the livecd, mount the hd / somewhere, chroot to it, and install a kernel
[03:50] <zezu> thx
[03:50] <orbin> korben: apt-cache show ubuntu-standard
[03:50] <orbin> korben: it talsk about removing it
[03:51] <orbin> korben: but it looks like just a metapackage
[03:51] <adventchild> Stealth870: so it would seem it might be a conflict or driver issue...  did you try to change the printers IRQ?
[03:51] <tooleh> Hi again!
[03:51] <Stealth870> advent: how would i go about doing that?
[03:51] <tooleh> I have my xorg log
[03:51] <zezu> Seveas, would that stop it from finding a shared lib ?
[03:52] <korben> orbin: yea thats why I don't get it. I'm planning on upgrading eventually, can I just reinstall it when I want to? I want to remove some of the packages that depend on it
[03:52] <zezu> or is that something different, b/c its not working, its finding the libs it needs to static link to but not the dynamic one
[03:52] <Seveas> zezu, no it will only find more ;)
[03:52] <zezu> err
[03:52] <adventchild> Stealth870: in linux i honestly have no clue...  i am a CSS in window$, first time linux user...  sry...
[03:52] <Cin> 'Lo.
[03:52] <Gabriel> Holas
[03:52] <zezu> i deff. woreded that one wrong
[03:52] <orbin> korben: yes, you can reinstall it
[03:52] <zezu> would it help finding a shared lib i should ask
[03:52] <adventchild> !IRQ
[03:52] <ubotu> adventchild: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:52] <orbin> korben: same as ubuntu-desktop i would assume
[03:52] <amphi> adventchild: you're a cascading style sheet???
[03:52] <Stealth870> advent: k
[03:52] <Gabriel> Espaol?
[03:53] <korben> orbin: ok thanks
[03:53] <Stealth870> lol amphi
[03:53] <Cin> Just thought I'd check out the chan, just installed Ubuntu -- good stuff. :)
[03:53] <adventchild> amphi: lol...  Computer Support Specialist
[03:53] <Stealth870> !printers
[03:53] <ubotu> somebody said printers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[03:53] <adventchild> amphi: well...  CSS in training...  im in school at the moment...  just about done tho...
[03:53] <orbin> ops: almost there!
[03:53] <ubuntu2> amphi, ok how do I install a kernel?
[03:53] <Gabriel> Hello Argentina
[03:54] <amphi> ubuntu2: apt-get install some_kernel - or build one from source?
[03:54] <orbin> !es
[03:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:54] <reaps> hey guys is 2048 cache better than 1024..????
[03:54] <_jason> reaps: it's how you use it that counts
[03:54] <zezu> i dont see why it won't find a dynamic file that is there ;|
[03:54] <stunit77> yes
[03:54] <amphi> reaps: on a processor? yeah
[03:55] <reaps> ok
[03:55] <stunit77> 2048 = 2 MB cache compared to 1MB
[03:55] <Cin> More cache means less retrieving of fresh datarixen.
[03:55] <Seveas> bye all, long past bedtime here
[03:55] <reaps> so 2048 on pentium M is better than 1024 ..rite..??
[03:55] <orbin> *round of applause*
[03:55] <amphi> n8 Seveas
[03:55] <amphi> reaps: indeed
[03:55] <stunit77> on any system
[03:55] <_jason> Seveas: heh well deserved after the -v * 700
[03:55] <reaps> ok..
[03:55] <stunit77> bigger that cache the better
[03:55] <reaps> thanks guys..
[03:56] <cafuego_> reaps: Well, it also depends on what you aim to do with the PC.
[03:56] <sgt-dyke> hello everyone ...
[03:56] <cafuego_> reaps: If all you do is run irc and aweb browser, you hardly need 2MB of cache.
[03:56] <reaps> cafuego laptp so just music and homework..
[03:56] <tooleh> Hey, can someone else help me with my font/x dieing problem now Seveas has gone.
[03:56] <tooleh> It is preventing my OS from loading.
[03:56] <tooleh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11493
[03:56] <tooleh> ^My x log
[03:56] <amphi> cafuego_: 2MB seems pretty standard on pemtium m these days
[03:56] <tooleh> Thanks!
[03:56] <reaps> DVD maybe..
[03:56] <cafuego_> reaps: A celeron will do, then ;-)
[03:56] <orbin> cafuego: heh, it's not the size, it's what you do with it right?
[03:56] <william> tonyyarusso, thanks for the help earlier, everything works fine now with my music
[03:57] <sgt-dyke> i want to know.... how to use... something plug on usb like my MP3 player
[03:57] <caminomaster> Hello
[03:57] <reaps> Celero...uughhh!
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> william: Wonderful.
[03:57] <cafuego_> reaps: Still, if the extra cache doesn't cost that much more, go for it.
[03:57] <bill_wad> any have a nm256 based sound card working?
[03:57] <sgt-dyke> should i mount something somewhere
[03:57] <adventchild> ::shudders:: celeron...  i have that on my laptop...
[03:57] <orbin> sgt-dyke: hopefully it automounts
[03:57] <william> tonyyarusso, i have another question tho...one of the drives it has on my desktop everytime i try to access it is says i don't have the permission to do so, why?
[03:57] <sgt-dyke> alright...
[03:57] <amphi> adventchild: does it have any l2 cache at all?
[03:58] <reaps> celeron suck major ass..!!  im all AMD guy..
[03:58] <adventchild> rather have an AMD, but ill settle for a P4
[03:58] <sgt-dyke> and where should i find it orbin ???
[03:58] <adventchild> amphi: dont think so....  its OLD
[03:58] <orbin> adventchild: nothing wrong w/ them if the box is just a workhorse
[03:58] <reaps> yep yep..
[03:58] <tooleh> Can anyone help me?
[03:58] <orbin> sgt-dyke: find what?  just plug it in
[03:58] <sgt-dyke> i know something work cause my mp3 is lighten ... but
[03:58] <adventchild> orbin: true, but mine is not...
[03:58] <tooleh> My problem is kinda serious...
[03:58] <cafuego_> just make sure you get 1GB ram.
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> william: ntfs perhaps?  /msg ubotu ntfs (I gotta go again...dang.)
[03:58] <stunit77> usually cp's are priced by theoretical speed in gigs and mostt secondly the FSB effects the price dramaticlly
[03:58] <adventchild> orbin: i am a die-hard gamer
[03:58] <sgt-dyke> yup orbin... the folder.... should be where
[03:58] <cafuego_> (or more)
[03:58] <reaps> definetly..
[03:58] <tooleh> :/
[03:58] <reaps> 1 gb RAM is must have..
[03:59] <IdleOne> tooleh, ask
[03:59] <reaps> my Home PC has 4 GB...1
[03:59] <tooleh> My X won't load since I installed a load of fonts.
[03:59] <tooleh> Here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11493
[03:59] <orbin> adventchild: ah, then you have an argument then :)
[03:59] <orbin> sgt-dyke: it should show up on your desktop
[03:59] <adventchild> reaps: if you are going for 1gb ram, get 2 512mb sticks
[03:59] <tooleh> no other programs loaded before I rebooted.
[03:59] <adventchild> orbin: yes i do
[03:59] <chris228> hi
[03:59] <reaps> yea that I know Advntchild..
[03:59] <sgt-dyke> nope sir... it' did not
[03:59] <orbin> tooleh: have you tried reconfigging X?
[03:59] <adventchild> reaps: lol..  alot of ppl dont tho...
[04:00] <orbin> s/X/xorg
[04:00] <Gau> That's not always possible; for example, my computer only has 1 DIMM slot
[04:00] <tooleh> orbin: I'm not sure what that is.
[04:00] <reaps> what is that called virtual memory rite..??
[04:00] <reaps> or dual
[04:00] <chris228> i have onboard and pci video, how do i make ubuntu use my pci instead of onboard?
[04:00] <tooleh> orbin: But it broke other programs.
[04:00] <Cin> The price difference between 1Gb and 2Gb says... "get 2Gb!"
[04:00] <orbin> tooleh: you don't have any errors, what happens exactly?
[04:00] <tooleh> orbin: Basically it starts loading, I see the cursor, then it dies back to the prompt (tries a few more times then gives up)
[04:00] <orbin> chris12349: there's aprobably a bios option to disable it
[04:01] <tooleh> orbin: it has a few warnings about fonts though, and that's what I think is causing it.
[04:01] <chris228> so if i disable on board in bios ubuntu ownt use it ?
[04:01] <adventchild> reaps: virtual memory is a section of your hd that old prgms in ram get put to when they are not used for a while
[04:01] <reaps> i gotta another laptop .. so im planning to run only Linux on that one..
[04:01] <reaps> no windows what so ever..
[04:01] <sgt-dyke> bah thanx anyways for the help
[04:01] <tooleh> orbin: I copied all my windows fonts to the font folder and reconfigged my fonts
[04:01] <orbin> tooleh: nope.  i and someone else have the same warnings, so it's not the issue i would think
[04:01] <abuchbinder> tritium: Do you have some free time?
[04:02] <tooleh> orbin: Okay. any ideas why it is dying then?
[04:02] <chris228> be back later
[04:02] <orbin> tooleh: are you comfortable w/ console?
[04:02] <reaps> im still kinda scared of the "terminal" lol
[04:02] <tooleh> orbin: Not amazingly, I've used it quite a bit though.
[04:02] <amphi> reaps: it's very pleasant once you get used to it
[04:02] <tooleh> orbin: I'm not aware of many of the shortcuts etc, and using IRC on it would be a mess
[04:03] <adventchild> reaps: i am a first time linux user and terminal is not that bad...  i kind of like it
[04:03] <orbin> tooleh: you just need to know how to revert to an old config file if i break things further, by doing a sudo cp.  think you can handle that?
[04:03] <orbin> s/cp/mv
[04:03] <Madpilot> When I'm doing an install that needs a /boot partition, should the bootable flag be on /boot or / ?
[04:03] <reaps> yea I really love it...but it scares me im gonna type something bad and KABOOM there is my PC
[04:03] <tooleh> orbin: I'm not quite sure, exactly what that would be. I'm using a live distro atm though - can I fix it from that?
[04:04] <amphi> Madpilot: linux doesn't care about the 'bootable' flag
[04:04] <adventchild> just make sure you only type something that you know about at first...
[04:04] <reaps> but as long as is not the root .. im good rite
[04:04] <orbin> tooleh: you're running live?
[04:04] <amphi> reaps: be careful with rm ;)
[04:04] <Madpilot> amphi, even though the partioner in Ubuntu's installer seems to?
[04:04] <tooleh> orbin: for now, so I could get my log file onto IRC :)
[04:04] <adventchild> reaps: depends...  you might have permissions set for your username....
[04:04] <tooleh> orbin: the damaged install is my hd one
[04:04] <amphi> Madpilot: I have no bootable flag set here
[04:05] <adventchild> reaps: check your permissions before messing around too much
[04:05] <reaps> yea ..I gotta read more on it..
[04:05] <Madpilot> reaps, w/o root privs (sudo) all you can do is delete your own stuff
[04:05] <abuchbinder> Can anyone else help me compile a single file into a kernel module without compiling the entire linux kernel?
[04:05] <Madpilot> reaps, which won't affect the system, but might affect you :P
[04:05] <sgt-dyke> orbin it's not working.... is there a way to mount it manually
[04:05] <amphi> Madpilot: it's a dos thing AFAIK
[04:05] <reaps> nice...that is nice to hear..MAdpilot
[04:05] <tooleh> orbin: So are we going to try this?
[04:06] <Madpilot> amphi, OK, thanks - my own install has never needed a /boot part. at all, so I'm entering new and uncharted territory :P
[04:06] <amphi> reaps: you could always add a 'clumsy' user for blundering ;)
[04:06] <orbin> tooleh: yep, you need to run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:06] <reaps> how amphi.??
[04:07] <tooleh> orbin: But I have to do that from the console on my actual install, right?
[04:07] <orbin> tooleh: go throught the tool and it will overwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf, making a backup in the process as xorg.conf.<timestamp> (or something like that)
[04:07] <orbin> tooleh: yes
[04:07] <adventchild> i have a cd that is for window$ that i need to run...  any ideas? (practice tests for my class)
[04:07] <orbin> tooleh: either boot into recovery mode, or wait for normal boot to dump you
[04:07] <tooleh> orbin: okay, I will go and do this now
[04:07] <NickGarvey> how would I change /home to be from /hdc1 to /hda1?
[04:08] <orbin> sgt-dyke: yep, you need to know where the device is though
[04:08] <tooleh> orbin: I'll be back in a minute, hopefully on my proper distro :)
[04:09] <sgt-dyke> bah.... damn it....     thanx orbin.... i'm gonna do that later....
[04:09] <chris228> hi, im having issues getting my screen resolution to 1024 x XXX, anyone know where i can get some help?
[04:09] <cornfed> How do I get around this problem:   python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.2-1) but 2.4.3-1 is to be installed
[04:09] <bill_wad> ubuntu under colinux - anyone done it?
[04:09] <orbin> chris12349: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:10] <_jason> cornfed: what causes that and have you been using any unofficial repositories?
[04:10] <chris228> thank you orbin
[04:10] <adventchild> i have a cd that is for window$ that i need to run under linux... (no more M$ on this comp) any ideas? (practice tests for my class)
[04:10] <amphi> Madpilot:why do you want a separate /boot partition ?
[04:10] <cornfed> jason:  I had debian repositories added in (don't remember why though)
[04:10] <_jason> adventchild: wine maybe, take a look at the contents and see how the tests are stored
[04:10] <orbin> adventchild: what are they? .exes?
[04:11] <adventchild> orbin: yes
[04:11] <adventchild> _jason: ill check that out ty
[04:11] <nick|work> install dapper from install cd or dist-upgrade from breezy?
[04:11] <chris228> how do i get the universe repository ? i need it for the 855resolution
[04:11] <_jason> adventchild: what version of python2.4 is installed now?
[04:11] <adventchild> _jason: 2.4.2
[04:11] <_jason> cornfed: what version of python2.4 is installed now?
[04:11] <nick|work> is there a difference between them?
[04:12] <orbin> ubotu: tell chris12349 about repos
[04:12] <adventchild> bbiam
[04:12] <cornfed> jason:  python version 2.4.3
[04:12] <_jason> cornfed: that's your problem, in ubuntu's repositories it's 2.4.2-1
[04:12] <orbin> chris12349: ubotu sent you a pm
[04:13] <chris228> not me
[04:13] <cornfed> _jason:  Is it possible to downgrade that?
[04:13] <wladston> Guys ... I want to understand something .... why isn't the universe and multiverse installed by default ??
[04:13] <chris228> true
[04:13] <orbin> whoops
[04:13] <chris228> yeah :)
[04:13] <orbin> chris228: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:13] <_jason> cornfed: only way I know is to remove it and install from ubuntu's repos but if you had debian repositories on there and upgraded stuff you may have done more damage
[04:13] <chris228> thanks again orbin
[04:13] <NickGarvey> wladston: because ubuntu doesn't supply support that if you buy support, and they are not entirely open source
[04:13] <wladston> hum ....
[04:13] <tristanmike> wladston: because they contain software that is not absolutely open source
[04:14] <nick|work> installing dapper from install cd or dist-upgrade from breezy??
[04:14] <orbin> chris228: no worries
[04:14] <bigmanalpha> Hey guys! Does anybody have the game Chromium installed?
[04:14] <wladston> sure ... but ... Why don't you guys at least make it clear on the "Add Applications" ?
[04:14] <_jason> nick|work: that's not really a question
[04:14] <NickGarvey> !easyubuntu
[04:14] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:14] <cornfed> _jason: Doh!  I didn't even try removing it.   Did that once on Gentoo and horked the whole deal.  Thanks jason
[04:15] <nick|work> _jason: i want to know which one is better?
[04:15] <wladston> so people can know they have some missing packs ..
[04:15] <_jason> cornfed: well I don't know if it's a good idea.  A lot of stuff probably depends on it
[04:15] <NickGarvey> eh I am not in a position to speak for the ubuntu developers heh
[04:15] <tristanmike> wladston: they start to get into legal waters, waters they would just as soon avoid
[04:16] <_jason> nick|work: if you dist-upgrade you get what current dapper looks like, if you use the cd you get a flight release and will then probably end up updating to what dapper is now.  people in #ubuntu+1 will probably no more than I do
[04:16] <_jason> s/no/know
[04:16] <wladston> I wanted to install gmail-notify and took a long time to figure out how to do it via apt-get . Like me, there are lots of users that don't know what do do after searching a packet and not finding it ...
[04:16] <wladston> Maybe not include by default, but a warning there should be useful ...
[04:16] <_jason> wladston: did you try finding it in synaptic?
[04:16] <NickGarvey> its all over google
[04:16] <nick|work> _jason: thanks
[04:17] <wladston> yeah  - all time "nothing found"
[04:17] <wladston> but now I installed via apt-get
[04:17] <_jason> wladston: if you found it in apt-get, it should be in synaptic
[04:17] <wladston> after enabling the repositories...
[04:17] <chris228> wow thanks orbin, i think i did it right
[04:17] <chris228> its downloading stuff
[04:17] <wladston> strange them ... O.o
[04:17] <orbin> wladston: well, there _is_ a section in sys>help>starter guide
[04:18] <orbin> chris228: goodo
[04:18] <wladston> ok .. wait a bit Orbin ...
[04:18] <iceman> where the heck do you put "theme steeing in kde?
[04:18] <iceman> theme settings
[04:18] <orbin> wladston: maybe they should show that on first bootup
[04:19] <orbin> wladston: you're right though.  i can see how new users could get a little lost
[04:19] <orbin> iceman: steeing?
[04:19] <orbin> ah, whoopes. nvm
[04:20] <wladston> Orbin : yeah, it's there ...
[04:20] <iceman> lolo
[04:20] <chris____> does DBO have another nickname?
[04:20] <orbin> iceman: there's always #kubuntu and #kde
[04:20] <user13> i want
[04:20] <user13> haave alot of firiend
[04:20] <user13> alot of friend
[04:20] <dbarnett> sorry to bug, can anyone help me get xorg-driver-fglrx uninstalled? getting a diversion error I'm not sure how to resolve
[04:20] <iceman> can not find where to install .. i tried kubuntu and go no where
[04:21] <adventchild> orbin: yes, the files on the disk are .exe's
[04:21] <wladston> Orbin : Even though, I think that a warning at the first open or when not finding a package at "search" using the "Add packages" would be useful to newcomers ...
[04:21] <chris____> can someone help me out making a public IP?
[04:21] <orbin> adventchild: what jason said.  wine is probably the best bet
[04:21] <wladston> Orbin : you agree ?
[04:21] <adventchild> sudo apt-get install wine?
[04:21] <orbin> wladston: absolutely
[04:22] <orbin> wladston: we're geeks though.  we're not meant to think about usability :P
[04:22] <wladston> Orbin : Great ! :) So, how can we put this on hands of developers, to add on the next release ?
[04:22] <eth0-noob> does anyone know how to change the port that bittorrent uses???
[04:22] <adventchild> _jason:  would the cmd to get wine be 'sudo apt-get install wine'?
[04:22] <eth0-noob> yes
[04:22] <IdleOne> adventchild, yes
[04:22] <_jason> adventchild: yes, that would be one way
[04:23] <adventchild> ok...  ty all
[04:23] <iceman> damit how to install themes in kde
[04:23] <orbin> wladston: i think there's a dev channel.  in any case, try the forum or mailing list
[04:23] <tritium> iceman: take it easy
[04:23] <wladston> I'm a newcomer to linux ... I'm impressed on how things got more user-friendly in Ubuntu!
[04:23] <adventchild> whats the diff b/t apt-get and aptitude?
[04:23] <IdleOne> iceman, ask in #kubuntu *enter curse word here*
[04:23] <wladston> A dev channel ? maybe #ubuntu-dev ?
[04:24] <bigmanalpha> Hey guys, if anybody has the game Chromium, can you help me install it?
[04:24] <orbin> wladston: possibly.  i never had the need to bug them
[04:24] <tritium> wladston: file a bug report in malone.  the dev channel is for developer coordination
[04:24] <adventchild> !games
[04:24] <ubotu> from memory, games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[04:24] <orbin> wladston: it's not #ubuntu-dev
[04:24] <wladston> tritium : googling for "malone" ...
[04:25] <orbin> _jason: is there a dev channel?  or a place where people can make suggestions?
[04:25] <IdleOne> bigmanalpha, sudo apt-get install chromium
[04:25] <chris228> hey now that 855 is installed , how do i select its mode ?
[04:25] <orbin> ah, nvm tritium answered it :)
[04:25] <orbin> chris228: wiki not helping?
[04:26] <orbin> adventchild: different apt tools
[04:26] <bigmanalpha> IdleOne...how do I find addresses like that? I always try to manually download the zips and stuff. How do i know if theres an apt-get for something?
[04:26] <adventchild> how do you go about disableing the 'root' acct? and thanks orbin
[04:26] <tritium> bigmanalpha: apt-cache search <search-term> is always useful, as is a synaptic search.
[04:26] <orbin> bigmanalpha: sys>admin>synaptic .. then use the search feature
[04:27] <tritium> adventchild: the root account is disabled by default
[04:27] <adventchild> tritium: i think i enabled it
[04:27] <adventchild> oops
[04:27] <chris228> anyone got 2 cents on how to set your video mode with 855resolution ?
[04:27] <orbin> heh, tritium is beating me to everything i'm about to say.  i'm gonna lurk for a while
[04:28] <tritium> adventchild: passwd -l can be used to lock a password
[04:28] <chris228> he hasnt beat you to my question yet :)
[04:28] <tritium> orbin: sorry ;)
[04:28] <orbin> chris228: the wiki tells you how
[04:28] <tritium> chris228: what's your question?
[04:28] <orbin> tritium: don't be :)
[04:28] <adventchild> so sudo root passwd -l?
[04:28] <bigmanalpha> thanks for the help!
[04:28] <tritium> adventchild: not quite.  sudo passwd root -l
[04:28] <tooleh> woooo
[04:29] <tooleh> !!!
[04:29] <ubotu> tooleh: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:29] <adventchild> almost
[04:29] <adventchild> lol
[04:29] <tooleh> I did it by rm *.fon
[04:29] <chris228> the wiki only told me how to get the pcackage in
[04:29] <tooleh> :D
[04:29] <tooleh> huzzah
[04:29] <tritium> adventchild: or sudo passwd -l root
[04:29] <chris228> and the recolution fix link doesnt tell you how to get the mode running
[04:29] <adventchild> tritium: ty
[04:30] <adventchild> tritium:  now how would you enable a logging file to check if someone is trying to hack your box?
[04:30] <gamma> any idea if using compiz would drain the battery faster on a laptop?
[04:30] <CodyDH> Are there any good guides to setting Ubuntu up as a mail server (SMTP and IMAP)?
[04:30] <wladston> tritium, orbit : here ! https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[04:30] <tritium> adventchild: there are various security packages you can install such as tripwire, etc.
[04:30] <wladston> where to report a bug, I'm going to fill it.
[04:30] <cin> What's the settings file to change what window manager starts when you startx? I'm used to .xinitrc on BSD. >.>
[04:30] <adventchild> tritium: ty again
[04:31] <chris228> nvm
[04:31] <tristanmike> wladston: launchpad.net
[04:31] <orbin> chris228: found it?
[04:31] <tritium> adventchild: apt-cache search intrusion
[04:31] <adventchild> kk
[04:31] <a_temp_dist> just started with linix, have the breezy live cd running now, where do i find a terminal window?
[04:31] <tritium> adventchild: ll mm nn oo
[04:32] <adventchild> :-( making fun of me huh? ;-)
[04:32] <tritium> adventchild: :)
[04:32] <orbin> a_temp_dist: apps->accessories
[04:32] <adventchild> tritium: its all good...  (in da hood)
[04:32] <cin> >.>
[04:32] <chenjf> a_temp_dist: applications->accessories->termnal
[04:32] <cin> <.<
[04:32] <a_temp_dist> thx
[04:33] <wastrel> trying to download my digital camera pictures - what program should i use?
[04:33] <cin> Chaps?
[04:33] <dbarnett> can anyone please help me resolve an apt dependency issue? I can't install my new graphics driver until I install my old, but I can't uninstall my old because one of it's deps is missing and I can't find a package for it anywhere
[04:33] <chenjf> wastrel: it should automaticlly download once you plugin you cam
[04:33] <wastrel> chenjf:  it doesn't
[04:34] <chenjf> wastrel: ok,try gthumb
[04:34] <orbin> dbarnett: pastebin the errors you're getting
[04:34] <tritium> dbarnett: uninstalling doesn't require that dependencies be met
[04:34] <adventchild> tritium: in tripwire, the mail config is to mail yourself the logon attemps i take it?
[04:34] <michel> how do i get music player to play mp3s
[04:34] <tritium> adventchild: don't know...I've not used it
[04:34] <adventchild> !tell michel about xine
[04:34] <wastrel> chenjf:  gthumb works thx
[04:34] <adventchild> !tell michel about mp3
[04:34] <bimberi> !tell michel about mp3
[04:34] <gamma> !mp3
[04:34] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:35] <tooleh> orbin: thanks for your time btw :)
[04:35] <michel> thank you
[04:35] <orbin> tooleh: no worries
[04:35] <adventchild> np
[04:35] <orbin> tooleh: did it fix it?
[04:36] <wastrel> mmm first digicam pxi
[04:36] <wastrel> pix, even
[04:37] <cafuego_> wastrel: f-spot is a really nice picture app.
[04:38] <wastrel> i'm just getting started taking pictures.
[04:38] <dbarnett> orbin, tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11494
[04:39] <wladston> guys, here is the bug # : #38112
[04:39] <wastrel> f-spot is throwing errors trying to download
[04:40] <tritium> dbarnett: you've tried installing both nvidia _and_ ati drivers?
[04:40] <dbarnett> I just switched cards
[04:40] <dbarnett> just installed an nvidia card since I've never been able to get accel working with my ati
[04:42] <arrick> hi guys
[04:42] <CodyDH> Are there any good guides to setting Ubuntu up as a mail server (SMTP and IMAP)?
[04:42] <chris____> arrick!?
[04:42] <adventchild> !smtp
[04:42] <ubotu> adventchild: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:42] <orbin> dbarnett: have you tried removing the fglrx drivers beforehand?
[04:42] <adventchild> hm
[04:42] <arrick> how do I start putty after it is installed, ran for the first time and closed, there is no icon anywhere for it?
[04:42] <carthik> Does anyone use streamtuner?
[04:42] <arrick> chris____, good evening
[04:42] <dbarnett> orbin: yes, I can't remove them
[04:42] <dbarnett> orbin: same error
[04:42] <arrick> morning orbin
[04:42] <chris____> arrick we need to finsh our project
[04:42] <wastrel> CodyDH:  if you find one, let me know
[04:42] <arrick> hahah
[04:43] <arrick> cant remember what it was chris____
[04:43] <arrick> whats up
[04:43] <wastrel> CodyDH:  there's a few posts in the forums, nothing really standout imho
[04:43] <orbin> arrick: afternoon
[04:43] <tritium> Nebular: having connection problems/
[04:43] <tritium> ?
[04:43] <chris____> arrick, public IP
[04:43] <CodyDH> wastrel: OK... I've never done it before, and I'm trying to figure out how.
[04:43] <wastrel> arrick:  did you install putty or puttyssh or something?
[04:43] <arrick> huh?
[04:43] <CodyDH> wastrel: There's a good one for Debian, but ATM I have FC5 installed on the 'box
[04:43] <orbin> dbarnett: how did you install the driver?
[04:44] <dbarnett> orbin: apparently very sloppily
[04:44] <wastrel> er s/puttyssh/puttyscp
[04:44] <arrick> I installed the putty ssh-telnet itself
[04:44] <cin> Hey, is KDE faster than GNOME?
[04:44] <dbarnett> orbin: I really don't remember. I had a lot of problems and installed and uninstalled several times, clearly I munged something up
[04:44] <arrick> chris____, you gotta refresh my webs man, I dont remember
[04:44] <cin> 'Cause I know XFCE is waaay faster. But it lacks some features that I know both KDE and GNOME provide.
[04:44] <arrick> wastrel, ^^
[04:44] <orbin> dbarnett: did you use the wiki page at all?
[04:45] <chris____> arrick i was the guy with a 2wire 1000hw and we were gunna make my IP public this was 2 ddays ago?
[04:45] <chris____> maybe 1?
[04:45] <arrick> oh yeah
[04:45] <dbarnett> orbin: there are a few different pages with different directions I tried them all
[04:45] <healot> cin, it's rather personal... and hardware requirements are fairly different from each desktop
[04:45] <chris____> arrick remember me?
[04:45] <arrick> I fogged out for a bit chris____ been a long 80 hours now working on this **)((server
[04:45] <arrick> yeah
[04:45] <orbin> dbarnett: recognise this one at all: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[04:45] <cin> healot, what about from your experience?
[04:46] <dbarnett> orbin: yes
[04:46] <healot> XFce is a minimalist, while KDE/GNOME are fully loaded
[04:46] <arrick> chris____, we were working on port forwarding right?
[04:46] <chris____> correct arrick
[04:46] <wastrel> arrick:  putty should Just Work.  double-click for happy goodness.
[04:46] <arrick> wastrel, I have nowhere to double click, dont know how to restart it
[04:46] <healot> cin, since my hardware are lovely piece, ALL of them give no problem to me :)
[04:47] <cin> healot, I suppose I'll just give KDE a shot. GNOME is fine, it's just that XFCE is sodding fast.
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> Hi everyone. I just install a tor, but can't get it start.
[04:47] <dbarnett> orbin: I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146014&highlight=xorg-driver-fglrx+uninstall I'm hesitant to try step for in dinxter's post but I might have to
[04:47] <cin> You can see it in the way stuff refreshes.
[04:47] <healot> i prefer KDE though... especially its Control Panel
[04:47] <deibis> alguien sabe como instalar detras de un proxy?
[04:47] <tritium> !es
[04:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:47] <cin> When you focus one window from another.
[04:47] <wastrel> arrick:  double-click the program file, where'd you install it to?
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> I type tor, and it says. Apr 05 10:47:15.015 [notice]  Tor v<IP_ADDRESS>. This is experimental software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity.
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> Apr 05 10:47:15.016 [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (1000). You must fix this to proceed.
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> Apr 05 10:47:15.016 [err]  options_act(): Couldn't access/create private data directory /var/lib/tor
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> Apr 05 10:47:15.016 [err]  init_from_config(): Acting on config options left us in a broken state. Dying.
[04:47] <arrick> dont know default I wil lfind it though
[04:47] <tritium> Aaronfromchina: stop pasting
[04:47] <Aaronfromchina> tritium, sorry.
[04:47] <healot> cin, XFce is meant for fast loading, but it is minimal in usage -)
[04:47] <chris____> arrick take your time, just let me know when your ready :)
[04:48] <arrick> ok
[04:48] <wladston> thanks guys .. The issue is fowarded. Whenever I notice something else I'll come back!
[04:48] <wladston> see ya!
[04:48] <healot> yo!
[04:48] <healot> !paste
[04:48] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:48] <healot> Aaronfromchina, by the way why you need "onion router" in the first place?
[04:48] <cin> healot, yeah, the only thing I need is desktop icons. And I wouldn't mind that groovy Dictionary desklet thing that GNOME has.
[04:48] <adventchild> how do you display the job id's for using the kill cmd?
[04:48] <orbin> dbarnett: have you tried the reintall method?
[04:48] <Aaronfromchina> wastrel, don't knwo where it is installed , I install it using snpatics ... manager.
[04:48] <dbarnett> orbin: on the fglrx driver? yes
[04:49] <healot> Aaronfromchina, there is a setuid switch for running Tor, just "man tor"...
[04:49] <dbarnett> orbin: can't reinstall because it's missing the mesa driver which I can't find anywhere
[04:49] <Aaronfromchina> healot, well, I tried to install tor for windows, it's quite straightforward, so I thought it should be easy on linux. :)
[04:49] <Aaronfromchina> healot, I'll have look. :) thanks.
[04:49] <healot> cin, GNOME is a good desktop for Python programming, ease up the binding :)
[04:50] <tritium> Aaronfromchina: you've not updated/upgraded.  I fixed that bug in tor myself and uploaded it to the repos.
[04:50] <healot> Aaronfromchina, you can dl the official onion router from Tor's site, which is preferable
[04:50] <orbin> dbarnett: i'm not too sure, sorry.
[04:50] <arrick> thanks wastrel
[04:50] <dbarnett> orbin: ok, thanks
[04:50] <tritium> healot: not preferable over official ubuntu packages
[04:50] <orbin> dbarnett: good luck
[04:50] <tooleh> Can you install debian packages in ubuntu (and how?)
[04:50] <chris____> arrick what channel were we in before?
[04:51] <dbarnett> orbin: I think I'll try editing the postrm and hope for the best! Thanks for your time
[04:51] <dbarnett> healot: why do you say gnome is good for python?
[04:51] <arrick> chris____, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <dbarnett> I love python, just curious
[04:51] <chris____> thanks arrick
[04:51] <Aaronfromchina> tritium, healot. OK. it's bug. see, I'll try again. Cheers, guys :)
[04:51] <healot> "[sudo]  dpkg -i  <package>", tooleh
[04:51] <arrick> but we can go to a different one tonight
[04:51] <tooleh> healot cheers
[04:51] <orbin> tooleh: depends e.g. w32codecs works for ubuntu.  but for the most part, ou should try and stick to the packages in the official repos
[04:51] <chris____> arrick ok :)
[04:51] <healot> dbarnett, the binding... it comes with ubuntu repos...
[04:52] <arrick> chris____, type /join #network
[04:52] <tooleh> orbin: the package in question is ubuntulooks :)
[04:52] <wastrel> ok i have to learn imagemagick now.
[04:52] <jadaz87> hello can anyone tell me the terminal command for the gnome file manager?
[04:52] <wastrel> jadams:  nautilus
[04:52] <bimberi> jadaz87: nautilus
[04:53] <wastrel> mmm tab complete fails me again.
[04:53] <healot> "nautilus"
[04:53] <tooleh> It says there were dependency problems
[04:54] <wastrel> hmm i found an error in a man page.
[04:54] <healot> Aaronfromchina, my work around is kinda simple, chown Tor's files to "admin" group... then "sudo tor"
[04:54] <Siph0n> anyone know what, "make: *** No rule to make target" means?
[04:54] <orbin> tooleh: what's ublooks?
[04:54] <healot> tooleh, expanded your repos yet?
[04:54] <jadaz87> did you do    ./config  ?
[04:54] <tritium> Aaronfromchina: are you running breezy or dapper?
[04:54] <tooleh> orbin: Apparently I need it for some gnome theme :S
[04:55] <tooleh> healot: I don't think so :S
[04:55] <healot> Breezy man pages are mostly OLD :)
[04:55] <arrick> hey IdleOne whats the command to pull soeones ip again?
[04:55] <Aaronfromchina> tritium, breey.
[04:55] <Siph0n> jadaz87, was that towards me?
[04:55] <tritium> healot: sudo invoke-rc.d tor restart
[04:55] <tooleh> And what do I do to get the w32codecs?
[04:55] <tristanmike> !w32codecs
[04:55] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:55] <tooleh> thanks
[04:56] <arrick> IdleOne, ruhere?
[04:56] <healot> really... one of the is the grep... some one even reported bug, well it turned out it was the man pages of "grep"
[04:56] <Suture> How do I reconfigure my X when I get a new graphics card
[04:56] <wastrel> Siph0n:  it means the makefile doesn't know the keyword you used.  what was the command?
[04:56] <tritium> Suture: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:56] <healot> tritium, i know... just to find out if changing the group works...
[04:56] <Suture> ty
[04:56] <tritium> healot: ok
[04:57] <arrick> who knows how to pull up the ip of someone through the channel?
[04:57] <healot> because running it's rc script might have a different permission...
[04:57] <Siph0n> wastrel, i msged u it, so i dont get off topic
[04:58] <liable> arrick: why?
[04:58] <wastrel> Siph0n:  that's the error - what command did you use
[04:58] <tooleh> Error: E: Couldn't find package totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[04:58] <healot> arrick, /whois ?
[04:58] <tooleh> why do I get that?
[04:58] <Siph0n> wastrel, sudo make
[04:58] <wastrel> Siph0n:  did you ./configure first?
[04:58] <orbin> tooleh: 'cos it ain't a valid package name
[04:58] <Siph0n> wastrel, no
[04:58] <tooleh> orbin: it's written on the ubuntu site?
[04:58] <arrick> I have to check and see if someone is on the same ip as two days ago
[04:58] <adventchild> what is the easiest doc format to read in linux?
[04:58] <wastrel> Siph0n:  look for a README or INSTALL file - that should contain instructions.  usually ./configure is required to generate a makefile.
[04:58] <arrick> and hes really a newbie
[04:59] <orbin> tooleh: url?
[04:59] <tristanmike> Siph0n: don't use "sudo" when you do make
[04:59] <wastrel> that too
[04:59] <engla> I need a command to type a key? How do I make a command that sends "F9" to the front window?
[04:59] <orbin> adventchild: plain text? :P
[04:59] <Siph0n> tristanmike, i get permission denied when i dont
[04:59] <adventchild> orbin: lol...  ty...  thought there was a specific format for linux...
[04:59] <tristanmike> Siph0n: where are you making the file ?
[05:00] <tyler> where or what can i go to tag all my mp3's with info.. like album/song name/artiste which will appear on the lcd of my mp3 player?
[05:00] <todd> hey question how do i install kde so when i login i can either login to kde or gnome?
[05:00] <Siph0n> in a sub directory of my home directory
[05:00] <orbin> adventchild: nope. we don't discriminate :)
[05:00] <tristanmike> todd: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:00] <adventchild> orbin: im glad...
[05:00] <todd> its d-loading the files now i got it from the packet manager
[05:00] <tristanmike> Siph0n: there should be no reason you get a permission denied for a make in your home folder
[05:00] <todd> kubuntu desktop?
[05:01] <arrick> I vote sudo aptitude install anything
[05:01] <tristanmike> todd: "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:01] <tristanmike> todd: with the dash -
[05:01] <adventchild> orbin: this is by far the most friendly place i have seen...  in other os's people will iggy you for being new to the os... :-(
[05:01] <BlueHeron> adventchild: iggy ?
[05:01] <arrick> hey tristanmike i was wondering which came out first, apt-get, or aptitude?
[05:01] <tritium> arrick: apt-get
[05:02] <adventchild> BlueHeron: ignore
[05:02] <tristanmike> arrick: what he said :P
[05:02] <tritium> aptitude improved upon it
[05:02] <BlueHeron> adventchild: i see
[05:02] <todd> yea its loading now, so when it finishes downloading i will be abel to login into either?
[05:02] <orbin> adventchild: that's good to hear
[05:02] <BlueHeron> i think apt-get is the bst
[05:02] <arrick> I was wondering, I love aptitude now that I made the mistake of installing without it and now I know why people swear by sptitude
[05:02] <tooleh> orbin: the url is http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[05:02] <tristanmike> yes, it will ask you whether you want to use GDM or KDM, basically, GDM is the gnome login, and KDM is the KDE login
[05:02] <arrick> aptitude
[05:03] <todd> great thanks alot man
[05:03] <orbin> arrick: i never got the hag of it
[05:03] <orbin> hang even :)
[05:03] <wsjunior> does anybody know a program to make a video of the desktop (beyond xvidcap)?
[05:03] <tristanmike> Siph0n: what are you compiling ?
[05:04] <adventchild> orbin: so how do i use wine to open the disk?
[05:04] <orbin> tooleh: i don't see any reference to "totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin"
[05:04] <orbin> whopose, yes i do
[05:04] <orbin> tooleh: that's for dapper.  are you ruing dapper?
[05:04] <arrick> ok, ive got me a private room, please DO NOT DISTURB hehe
[05:05] <orbin> s/ruing/running
[05:05] <arrick> just jokin
[05:05] <tooleh> orbin: No. What should I do to get firefox media player for Breezy?
[05:05] <tristanmike> tooleh: "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[05:05] <orbin> tooleh: mozilla-mplayer, as the wiki says
[05:06] <adventchild> i have installed wine, now i need to use it to open the files on this cdrom...  how do i go about doing that?
[05:06] <tooleh> tristanmike, orbin: thanks :)
[05:06] <Siph0n> tristanmike, trying to add the helicopter part to the buildroot, and then put it on my gumstix
[05:06] <Siph0n> tristanmike, http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pascal.brisset/chromicro/doc/chromicro.html the software is from there
[05:07] <tristanmike> Siph0n: ....your using make to do this ?
[05:07] <tooleh> E: Couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer
[05:07] <tooleh>  :/
[05:07] <tristanmike> !universe
[05:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:07] <adventchild> think i got it
[05:07] <orbin> tooleh: you need to enable multiverse, as the wiki says :)
[05:07] <adventchild> nvm
[05:08] <Siph0n> tristanmike, yup.. thats what it says to use
[05:08] <adventchild> YEY! it worked...
[05:08] <Siph0n> tristanmike, i had it almost working, well more than i have it now, and i changed something, and tryed to go back
[05:08] <Siph0n> and it doesnt work
[05:08] <tooleh> Gotcha, I forgot to enable the backports *blush*
[05:08] <orbin> tooleh: did you get your X issue fixed?
[05:08] <tooleh> orbin: Yup, by deleting all .fon fonts
[05:09] <orbin> not backports! just multiverse
[05:09] <adventchild> ...  keeps giving me an External exception 80000101 error
[05:09] <tooleh> orbin: it isn't seeing the TTFs though, should I do that?
[05:09] <tristanmike> Siph0n: that's freakin amazing, I'll probably be of no help to you, but I'll have my fingers crossed for that one, that's wicked
[05:09] <orbin> tooleh: so the freconfig didn't work?
[05:09] <tooleh> orbin: No, but removing .fon files did
[05:09] <orbin> tooleh: oh, ok
[05:09] <tooleh> orbin: what is wrong with backports?
[05:09] <tristanmike> Siph0n: you could try "make clean"
[05:10] <orbin> tooleh: i could be wrong, but they're kind of risky
[05:10] <tooleh> orbin: Eek. But it wouldnt find anything if I didn't have them enabled.
[05:10] <Siph0n> tristanmike, does make defconfig do like the same thing as configure?
[05:10] <walden> Hi. I get the following error when I start ubuntu.. it starts and works alright, but would like to know what this is about :[4295233.595000]  hdb: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00"
[05:10] <orbin> tooleh: backports is not multiverse/universe
[05:10] <tristanmike> Siph0n: not familiar with that command
[05:10] <adventchild> _jason: i am trying to use wine to install and run this cd, but it gives me an error when it trys to inst... am i doing something wrond?
[05:10] <adventchild> *wrong
[05:10] <saif> when trying to join a wireless point, the admin gave me passphrase, which should generate the 128 hex key, is there anyway to enter the passphrase and tell my system to use the first key generated?? or do i have to enter the key manually?
[05:11] <wastrel> any good programs for making pictures look better?  this one is a bit gray i'd like to brighten it up a little.
[05:11] <Siph0n> k, cause i see it says to do that first, then make... but then for the instructions to add a piece to the buildroot it says to just type make
[05:11] <walden> wastrel: gimp
[05:11] <orbin> tooleh: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[05:11] <adventchild> and now the program wont close.....
[05:11] <wastrel> walden:  gimp's nice and all but the UI is a bit challenging
[05:11] <Siph0n> tristanmike,  lol may have worked...
[05:12] <orbin> walden: hdb, HDD issues maybe?
[05:12] <orbin> wastrel: there's gimpshop
[05:12] <healot> GIMP.... wastrel
[05:12] <tristanmike> Siph0n: what, "make clean" or defconfigure ?
[05:12] <wastrel> orbin:  never used photoshop
[05:12] <walden> wastrel: hehe, ok.
[05:13] <zerokarmaleft> wastrel: f-spot has *very basic* phototouching
[05:13] <walden> orbin: well, i have one hard disk on the laptop.. hda which is 100G and a CD/DVD writer. which also seems to work fine when i burn...
[05:13] <saif> wastrel, challneing is fun1 :)
[05:13] <orbin> wastrel: i'm sure there's a few image viewers tha can do simple manip.
[05:13] <zerokarmaleft> wastrel: or you can flex command line muscle with imagemagick :)
[05:13] <Siph0n> defconfig
[05:14] <Siph0n> tristanmike, u know how to see whats in a jffs2 image file? cause thats what it makes and what im suppose to put on the gumstix
[05:14] <adventchild> i am trying to use wine to install and run this cd, but it gives me an error when it trys to install... am i doing something wrong?
[05:14] <Siph0n> so i can see if the helicopter part is on it :)
[05:14] <orbin> walden: not sure really, just a stab
[05:14] <orbin> any, g'luck
[05:14] <orbin> s/any/anyway
[05:15] <tristanmike> Siph0n: you are way outta my league, sorry :(
[05:15] <xDaSx> anyone feeling helpful
[05:15] <xDaSx> ??
[05:15] <mindmime> whats a good serial/terminal program for ubuntu? like terraterm.
[05:15] <Siph0n> tristanmike, actually i am really new, so im just way over my head lol
[05:15] <IdleOne> xDaSx, ask away
[05:15] <adventchild> !patience
[05:15] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[05:15] <tristanmike> Siph0n: that's the best way ;-)
[05:15] <mindmime> to connect to routers/switchs console etc. :)
[05:16] <tooleh> orbin: Now I cannot install mplayer, due to the libfaad2-0 and some other dependencies being unavailable :S
[05:16] <xDaSx> I am absolutely brand new to ubuntu, as in today
[05:16] <tristanmike> tooleh: post your sources.list on pastebin
[05:16] <IdleOne> xDaSx, welcome
[05:16] <adventchild> xDaSx: so am i...  whats the problem?
[05:16] <tristanmike> !tell tooleh about pastebin
[05:16] <xDaSx> I'm trying to get a wireless card workin
[05:16] <IdleOne> !wireless
[05:16] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:16] <akcom>  Is there anyway to recursively grep all the files in a directory/subdirectories?
[05:16] <tooleh> tristranmike: How do I make a sources.list
[05:17] <IdleOne> !easysource
[05:17] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:17] <arrick> how do you gain op status on a channel?
[05:17] <mindmime> !sources
[05:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:17] <tristanmike> tooleh: "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste that
[05:17] <walden> hey Dr_Willis .. can you tell me what this error is about?[4295233.595000]  hdb: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00.. appears in my dmesg.. and also when i start up.
[05:17] <adventchild> !channelop
[05:17] <IdleOne> arrick, join #arricks-place
[05:17] <ubotu> adventchild: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:17] <adventchild> lol
[05:17] <rlaager> The Intel 3945 chipset seems to be missing from that wireless list. I was going to ask about the ipw3945 driver and NetworkManager: Anyone know how to get that working?
[05:17] <a_temp_dist> is there a bash CVS client on the breezy liveCD?
[05:17] <a_temp_dist> and how to install it?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> walden,  could be some "SMART" drive change/monitoring issue.. google for that   'error code: 0x70 ' message
[05:18] <walden> Dr_Willis: okie.
[05:18] <cello_rasp> will compiz/xgl be ready for dapper?
[05:19] <zerokarmaleft> akcom: find [directory]  -exec `grep [expression] `
[05:19] <e4rlgrey> ok... i was on here yesterday and you guys were a lot of help... now i'm hoping you can help me out again
[05:19] <walden> Dr_Willis: ah. cd drive errors.. but it works fine while reading/writing. so i best ignore.
[05:19] <arrick> ok
[05:19] <arrick> thanks
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> walden,  theres a cd in the drive? :P
[05:19] <wastrel> akcom:  grep -R  ?
[05:19] <lwizardl> hi'
[05:19] <akcom> thank you
[05:20] <walden> Dr_Willis: heck no :) there's posts on the kernel mailing list, but i have no clue what they are talking about :D
[05:20] <zerokarmaleft> akcom: and you can use -name if you're looking through specific type of source files
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  - i doubt it will be xgl 100% ready for prime time for a few more months.  :) its a work in progress.. it works ok for many people now. not at all  for many others.
[05:20] <e4rlgrey> i installed ubuntu and everything worked out great... however... my second drive... which i use for storage... says that it's access path is /root... the owner is root... and I can't delete or change anything on it... how can i fix this?
[05:20] <arrick> hey IdleOne how did someone else get opstatus?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> e4rlgrey,  you told the isntaller to mount it as /root ?
[05:21] <healot> novell's evil genuis XGL
[05:21] <e4rlgrey> no
[05:21] <IdleOne> arrick, join #arricks-place
[05:21] <e4rlgrey> i didn't
[05:21] <arrick> I already did?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> e4rlgrey,  somthing must have..  :P  check your /etc/fstab - see if theres a  entry that mentions  /root
[05:21] <e4rlgrey> it was disabled when i installed ubuntu... and when i enabled it... it made the access path /root
[05:21] <lwizardl> anyone here know about setting up linux terminals ? I wanting to use ubuntu for the distro
[05:21] <walden> e4rlgrey: create a directory in the other disk, and make it accessible to the non-root user. use chown to give access to normal user.
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> disabled?
[05:22] <walden> .. that cant happen...
[05:22] <wastrel> yeah i can brighten with gimp but these color levels things and hue/saturation business i have no clue.
[05:22] <chicalinux> e vueltoooooooooo
[05:22] <chicalinux> ups sorry wrong chanel
[05:23] <e4rlgrey> walden:  ok... and what now?
[05:23] <walden> however, what did it mean?
[05:23] <tooleh> tristranmike: I can't start webboard :(
[05:23] <cello_rasp> Dr_Willis: I'm looking forward to see how ubuntu will promote it for both those with the hardware for xgl and for those without.. it would be a shame to promote the eyecandy when some can't get it at all
[05:24] <slavik> what up my linux loving hommies?
[05:24] <ariel> hey
[05:24] <tooleh> tristranmike: http://pastebin.com/641421
[05:24] <ariel> is there a channel where i could ask questions related to the kernel
[05:24] <healot> hommies :)
[05:24] <iceman> Anyone here program Super karamba ?
[05:24] <ariel> and more precisely acpi
[05:24] <slavik> anyone read rms speech?\
[05:24] <slavik> I am starting to dislike rms
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  yep. and so far it just seems to be eye candy. :P
[05:24] <walden> e4rlgrey: well, your /root should be in /, which should be on your first disk. edit your /etc/fstab, and give that new disk a different mount point. and change its ownership to a normal user. the command is chown -hR e4rlgrey /e4rlgreystore i think.
[05:25] <healot> slavik, you don't have to love Mr. Stallman
[05:25] <slavik> healot: I never "loved" him :P
[05:25] <slavik> anyone got a howto on configuring xmame/gxmame?
[05:26] <adventchild> !xmame
[05:26] <cello_rasp> Dr_Willis: well the window minaturisation, greyscaling on crash and window tiling are more useful than you think
[05:26] <ubotu> adventchild: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <Siph0n> tristanmike, lol nevermind... didnt work
[05:26] <tooleh> tristranmike: I'll be back tomorrow, it is 4:30 am I have just realised :(
[05:26] <adventchild> !gxmame
[05:26] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[05:26] <adventchild> eh
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  i tend to do every program full screen and just alt-tab around all day
[05:26] <adventchild> i tried
[05:26] <slavik> exactly
[05:26] <tooleh> tristranmike: thanks for the help <3
[05:26] <adventchild> google it?
[05:26] <slavik> adventchild: nothing
[05:27] <slavik> thing is that gxmame complains about non-found ini files, which aren't ther
[05:27] <adventchild> slavik: idk....  im new to linux sry...
[05:27] <slavik> and also, if I run gxmame with & after it, I lose my xsession
[05:27] <slavik> adventchild: don't worry about
[05:27] <slavik> s/with/without
[05:27] <zepmantra> hello could be the problem if my installation hangs at scanning cd-rom , i have a sata so i boot with :linux irqpoll ...
[05:28] <xDaSx> im in trouble with this wireless thing
[05:28] <cello_rasp> Dr_Willis: many don't, and i think ultimately the eyecandy is most useful in promoting linux to folk who only care about appearance.. ie most people using windows or osx ;)
[05:28] <adventchild> what vers of wine should i get from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/w/wi/wine?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  &#&@ with them. :P we got enough problems in this channel with them comming in... Lol.
[05:28] <Phunker> Where is the little ubuntu icon file that is shown on my Gnome applications menu stored?
[05:29] <iceman> Stupid ... wish this superkaramba desktop theme were complete ....
[05:29] <Phunker> I used to know where it was and what it was called but I forget...
[05:29] <_jason> Phunker: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:29] <notic> anyone here know how to configure postfix?
[05:29] <Phunker> _jason, thanks
[05:30] <_jason> ubotu: menulogo is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:30] <shrewduser> hi, i'm trying to upgrade my kernel to a newer version (wine issue) but i have no idea where to start....
[05:30] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[05:30] <cello_rasp> Dr_Willis: sadly, they are our future. better a moron has a stable and secure system than a crash-happy virus pig
[05:30] <xDaSx> anyone good with wireless cards and willing to work with a NOOB
[05:30] <xDaSx> ?
[05:31] <shrewduser>  i'm trying to upgrade my kernel to a newer version (wine issue) but i have no idea where to start....
[05:31] <adventchild> !wireless
[05:31] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:32] <shrewduser> can i update kernel from synaptic?
[05:32] <adventchild> xDaSx try 'sudo apt-get install Ndiswrapper'
[05:32] <paula_> can anyone tell me how i can join a new channel?
[05:32] <xDaSx> k
[05:32] <walden> shrewduser: i guess you can...
[05:32] <shrewduser> paula_: /join #channelname
[05:32] <adventchild> paula_: use /j #roomname
[05:32] <knownbad> paul_; /join #channel.
[05:32] <shrewduser> walden: this isn't the preffered method?
[05:32] <Phunker> _jason, whats the command to tell when a file was last modified?
[05:32] <knownbad> shrewduser; yes you surely can.
[05:32] <firewire> Removing gnome-terminal-data ...
[05:32] <firewire> /usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-terminal.schemas:5610: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding
[05:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody has a deb packaged version of Audacity1.3beta around? i can't compile it :(
[05:33] <vladuz976> hey, so is it sort of a waste of time nowadays to still learn C, when there is C++ and all the interpeded languages?
[05:33] <paula_> thanks
[05:33] <shrewduser> knownbad: how? do i search for "kernel" ?
[05:33] <_jason> Phunker: stat gives a lot of info, but what ls -l says is modification time I believe
[05:33] <walden> shrewduser: i dunno. many people tend to download the kernel release source and compile it with kernel package
[05:33] <Phunker> _jason, thanks
[05:33] <xDaSx> E: Couldn't find package Ndiswrapper
[05:33] <knownbad> shrewduser; yes, and you'll get list to choose from.
[05:33] <e4rlgrey> walden:  i don't seem to have this: /etc/fstab
[05:33] <slavik> vladuz976: C is very usefull
[05:33] <djk_> vladuz976: you do realize how idiotic that statemeant is don't you...
[05:33] <shrewduser> walden: this may be a bit beyond me....
[05:33] <slavik> OpenGL is still C ...
[05:33] <tristanmike> isn't it "ndiswrapper" ? no capital N
[05:33] <e4rlgrey> <<<< noob at ubuntu
[05:33] <walden> shrewduser: so just apt-get install it
[05:33] <xDaSx> adventchild: Couldn't find package Ndiswrapper
[05:34] <walden> e4rlgrey: open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:34] <shrewduser> knownbad: i can't seem to find a kernel beyond 2.6.12....
[05:34] <slavik> vladuz976: but then again, if you know C++, you can learn C easily
[05:34] <adventchild> xDaSx try ndiswrapper instead of Ndiswrapper
[05:34] <knownbad> shrewduser; try linux-image
[05:34] <vladuz976> djk_: i don't know much about it yet. i know linux is mostly written in C, and most ppl on campus here talk about c++, why, I don't know
[05:34] <knownbad> shrewduser; this will cut down browsing.
[05:34] <shrewduser> knownbad:ta
[05:35] <Zoo> hi all
[05:35] <sgt-dyke> hi everyone
[05:35] <runelind> I'm having trouble getting wpasupplicant to start at startup
[05:35] <knownbad> shrewduser; any resson to go beyond 2.6.12?
[05:35] <djk_> vladuz976: what do you study?
[05:35] <Zoo> testing with ubuntu dapper drake, 6, its all going quite well.. snes rocks :-) editing run level .. :)
[05:35] <healot>  should I say Linux kernel is made of 100% C?
[05:35] <vladuz976> slavik: how about the other way around?
[05:35] <shrewduser> knownbad: wine apparently....
[05:35] <vladuz976> djk_: physics
[05:35] <sgt-dyke> can someone told me how to mount an usb thing.... Mp3 player
[05:35] <shrewduser> knownbad: i have an issue which apparently is resolved with newer kernel..
[05:35] <runelind> I went to /etc/defaults/wpasupplicant and set enabled=1 and uncommented the correct option
[05:35] <e4rlgrey> walden:  it doesn't say anything about /root
[05:35] <Zoo> hi all, :)
[05:35] <shrewduser> knownbad: according to the nice people in #winehq....
[05:35] <vladuz976> djk_: i am not going to develop an OS, i just want some basic understanding
[05:36] <Zoo> hi vladuz976
[05:36] <xDaSx> adventchild: No luck same error
[05:36] <knownbad> shrewduser; you'll need to download seperately or add additional source.
[05:36] <walden> e4rlgrey: hm. then how is the other disk mounted? there should be some sort of entry for it in fstab, right?
[05:36] <healot> xDaSx, for a good start, why don;t you use "Synaptic"?
[05:36] <ubuntu> :P
[05:36] <ubuntu> ^_^
[05:36] <shrewduser> knownbad: perhaps i should abstain..... i'm not advanced enough....
[05:36] <ubuntu> rocks
[05:36] <ubuntu> :D
[05:36] <Zoo> :-)
[05:37] <adventchild> sgt-dyke: try mkdir /media/mp3/ mount /dev/*mp3*/ /media/mp3 where mp3 is what your mp3 player is called
[05:37] <xDaSx> healot: What does that do
[05:37] <knownbad> shrewduser; have you googled yet?
[05:37] <adventchild> xDaSx: try sudo aptitude ndiswrapper
[05:37] <e4rlgrey> walden:  yeah... the other disk says the mount point is /
[05:37] <knownbad> shrewduser; any known working version?
[05:37] <shrewduser> knownbad: i'm googleing around....
[05:37] <walden> e4rlgrey: can you paste your /etc/fstab in #flood?
[05:37] <shrewduser> knownbad: working version?
[05:37] <sgt-dyke> thanx adventchild... i'm gonna try that
[05:37] <e4rlgrey> ok
[05:38] <healot> xDaSx, it could format your partition on the fly :)
[05:38] <shrewduser> knownbad: perhaps i should wait for dapper.... surely dapper uses a more up to date kernel....
[05:38] <ariel> anyone familiar with acpi here? i'm having troubles with my fn keys
[05:38] <Zoo> sort of
[05:38] <cjones> what is amixer?
[05:38] <adventchild> !mizer
[05:38] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[05:38] <adventchild> !mixer
[05:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, adventchild
[05:38] <Zoo> advance control power interface, management, etc..
[05:39] <e4rlgrey> walden: it's there
[05:39] <Zoo> alot with.. i/o :P
[05:39] <healot> shrewduser, the best way is to get the latest source from kernel.org
[05:39] <walden> e4rlgrey: you have one hard disk on which ubuntu is installed, and 2 cd drives?
[05:39] <adventchild> i feel stupid...
[05:39] <Zoo> why
[05:39] <shrewduser> healot: i wouldn't know what i'm doing....
[05:39] <adventchild> idk...  cant get wine to run my cd...
[05:39] <Zoo> I'm testing out latest, all is well, I'm editing aot of things though :P
[05:39] <healot> and next install "kernel" package...
[05:39] <walden> e4rlgrey: the other hard disk is not existing in your /etc/fstab
[05:39] <Zoo> oh
[05:39] <xDaSx> adventchild: Unknown command "ndiswrapper" followed by full usage instructions
[05:39] <healot> !kernel
[05:39] <Zoo> you ever thought of, CodeWeavers, using there version instead or vmware?
[05:40] <adventchild> xDaSx: 1 sec
[05:40] <e4rlgrey> walden:  yeah i know... it's not there... but i can still access it from filesystem
[05:40] <Madpilot> shrewduser, the current (non-Dapper) kernel works fine - why wait for Dapper just for a higher kernel number?
[05:40] <walden> e4rlgrey: how? what did you mount the new hard disk as?
[05:40] <knownbad> shrewduser; working kernel version for you?
[05:40] <healot> xDaSx, it is "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper", dont forget the operation "install"
[05:40] <Zoo> yep
[05:40] <Zoo> drake runs great :D
[05:40] <cjones> could someone giev me some help on a new install
[05:40] <walden> e4rlgrey: the hard disk wont be there unless you mount it as something
[05:40] <adventchild> xDaSx:  sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper
[05:40] <shrewduser> you guys: are confusing me :D
[05:40] <Zoo> sure cjones
[05:40] <FadedSun> Is there a sane way to make gnome go bye-bye after installing kde?
[05:41] <Zoo> yes
[05:41] <BlueHeron> FadedSun: not really......
[05:41] <e4rlgrey> walden: and how do i do that?
[05:41] <Zoo> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <Zoo> :)
[05:41] <knownbad> Madeye; shrewduser was told newer kernel works for his particular problem.
[05:41] <BlueHeron> Zoo: that is a meta package and does nothing
[05:41] <Zoo> fluxbox, nice :)
[05:41] <shrewduser> apparently wine has an issue which is resolved by moving to a newer kernel... thats all i'm trying to do.....
[05:41] <walden> that will only remove themeta package...
[05:41] <BlueHeron> Zoo: it uninstallas nothing
[05:41] <knownbad> errrrr.
[05:41] <Zoo> ah
[05:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody has a deb packaged version of Audacity1.3beta around? i can't compile it :(
[05:41] <xDaSx> healot & adventchild: It worked
[05:41] <Zoo> well I like gnome, kde, and fluxbox.. o.o
[05:41] <knownbad> Madpilot; shrewduser was told newer kernel works for his particular problem.
[05:41] <walden> maybe, aptitude remove will work.
[05:41] <BlueHeron> kfce is ok
[05:41] <cjones> when i boot  in linux it goes right to a command line and when i boot to xp it goes to the splash screen and reboots
[05:41] <Madpilot> knownbad, ah, OK
[05:41] <walden> what is kfce?
[05:41] <Zoo> I run my fluxbox , when I dj alot, visulation kicks :)
[05:41] <BlueHeron> xfce*
[05:42] <walden> oh. hehe.
[05:42] <shrewduser> is there perhaps a repository with a newer kernel?
[05:42] <Zoo> yeah I know about, xfce
[05:42] <carthik> FadedSun, install and run debfoster
[05:42] <Zoo> don't run it though :-)
[05:42] <IdleOne> Tallia1Kubuntu, agi audacity
[05:42] <Madpilot> shrewduser, you could run the testing versions of Dapper
[05:42] <xDaSx> healot & adventchild: What next?
[05:42] <Zoo> hi BlueDevil ,
[05:42] <carthik> FadedSun, read the instruction for debfoster too
[05:42] <Zoo> BlueHeron,
[05:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> IdleOne: agi?
[05:42] <BlueHeron> Zoo: yes ?
[05:42] <BlueHeron> Zoo: :-)
[05:42] <Zoo> i said hi.. *
[05:42] <IdleOne> apt-get install
[05:42] <walden> e4rlgrey: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAdditionalHardDrive.html
[05:42] <knownbad> shrewduser; that's a good question...:)
[05:42] <Zoo> :-)
[05:42] <healot> xDaSx, wait and see the install to finish?
[05:42] <walden> e4rlgrey: check that out :)
[05:43] <healot> !ndiswrapper
[05:43] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:43] <xDaSx> healot it did
[05:43] <healot> or follow that.. xDaSx
[05:43] <shrewduser> madpilot: thats an option.... but i don't know how to upgrade, is it easy?
[05:43] <Zoo> well, I"m an IT engineer, so I work with Windows XP Pro, and hacking its shell, registry, I run a few cad software 3d modeling, and dj software, and on filetopia client, ubuntu my fun power toy :-)
[05:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> IdleOne: agi?
[05:43] <Madpilot> shrewduser, fairly easy, but not always flawless
[05:44] <Madpilot> !tell shrewduser about upgrade
[05:44] <Zoo> and Windows Vista, already tested 2 builds.. its not worth a dang piece of anyones time .. rock ubuntu all the way , protect yourself, and your system :-)
[05:44] <Zoo> I told my instructors, stick vista where the sun don't shine :-)
[05:44] <slavik> Zoo: where does the sun NOT shine?
[05:44] <Zoo> hi maddler
[05:44] <Zoo> Madpilot, *
[05:44] <mavric2001> whats ubuntu's official opinion on Automatix?
[05:44] <cjones> what causes ubuntu to boot to the command line
[05:44] <tristanmike> slavik: on the dark side of the moon
[05:44] <shrewduser> madpilot: thanks, i will try it out...
[05:44] <healot> Zoo, dude... fighting over software dont really worth a cent :)
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mavric2001,  DONT USE it. :P
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:45] <Madpilot> hi Zoo
[05:45] <Zoo> nope :-)
[05:45] <Joetheodd> slavik: The closet?
[05:45] <slavik> mavric2001: it can break things
[05:45] <Zoo> well, its the fact, they can't pay me enough to manage it for them , :-)
[05:45] <slavik> Joetheodd: what if you open the door?
[05:45] <Joetheodd> Yes everyone! Stick your vista disks in the closet!
[05:45] <mavric2001> i just used it , nothings broke, but im wondering about the sources
[05:45] <Joetheodd> !automatix
[05:45] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mavric2001,  heh - there used to be a very very heated thread on the forums about it.
[05:45] <adventchild> Madpilot: sorry about last night
[05:45] <e4rlgrey> walden:  I don't have to ad a new drive... it's already there... it's being recognized... i can read all the data on it... i just can't edit any of the data on it
[05:45] <Joetheodd> slavik: It'll come in at an angle. Tape it to the ceiling.
[05:45] <healot> I get paid to manage both worlds, Zoo :)
[05:45] <mavric2001> i found out about it on ubuntu's site
[05:45] <BlueHeron> e4rlgrey: is it ntfs ?
[05:45] <Zoo> yeah, I was going set automatix up for newbies, but its not worth it.. etc
[05:45] <slavik> what if you turn the building?
[05:45] <Madpilot> adventchild, what?
[05:45] <tristanmike> mavric2001: you found out about on the forums
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mavric2001,  best - is to learn how to install the stuff yourself.
[05:46] <Joetheodd> slavik: Then Vista will STILL suck. =p
[05:46] <e4rlgrey> BlueHeron: no... it's FAT
[05:46] <vince_> Dr_WIllis: HEY MAN I FIXED IT!
[05:46] <Zoo> hey all, I'm supporting ubuntu in my business, :-)
[05:46] <FlannelKing> mavric2001: if you want, use easyubuntu, not automatix
[05:46] <adventchild> Madpilot: the pm....  wasnt thinking
[05:46] <BlueHeron> e4rlgrey: did you try chmodding it to 777 ? or 666
[05:46] <vince_> Ohh my name is wrong
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> vince_,  Great... fixed what? :P
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:46] <Madpilot> adventchild, no problem, no harm done
[05:46] <tristanmike> !tell mavric2001 about easyubuntu
[05:46] <Zoo> people are actually glad, with me setting up, what I call the, A.I. Linux System
[05:46] <Zoo> :-)
[05:46] <mavric2001> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405&highlight=automatix
[05:46] <e4rlgrey> BlueHeron:  I don't even know what that means lol
[05:46] <walden> e4rlgrey: cant you use sudo to edit the data?
[05:46] <vince_> Dr_Willis: I just noticed my name is messed up.  I'm spazzz the guy who was having ther partition issues yesterday
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> I still think ya should not use easyubuntu - :P  learn how to do it! be a man!
[05:46] <adventchild> what is a reliable site to download wine? or terminal cmd?
[05:46] <tristanmike> mavric2001: things on the forums should be taken with a grain of salt
[05:47] <Zoo> well.. reading isn't all that hard
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !info wine
[05:47] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[05:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> IdleOne: agi?
[05:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> IdleOne: agi audacity?
[05:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody has a deb packaged version of Audacity1.3beta around? i can't compile it :(
[05:47] <mavric2001> i have learned how to do it, but automatix is really handy
[05:47] <slavik> Zoo: ubuntu doesn't have dependancy hell, like windows :P
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> adventchild,  its in the Universe repository.
[05:47] <Zoo> I'm using, VMware, and TEchSmith camtasia studio. to show users how to use linux etc, you can also use, xvidcap etc
[05:47] <tristanmike> !easyubuntu
[05:47] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[05:47] <Zoo> lol i know
[05:47] <adventchild> ty
[05:47] <tristanmike> mavric2001: ^^^^
[05:47] <Madpilot> !tell adventchild about wine
[05:47] <walden> e4rlgrey: and how are you reading the data on it? like if you are in the drive andlooking at the data, just type pwd there and tell us.
[05:47] <e4rlgrey> walden:  like i said, i'm a noob at ubuntu
[05:47] <walden> e4rlgrey: so am i!!
[05:47] <Zoo> its not even, 2010 yet :-)
[05:47] <slavik> e4rlgrey: what ya need hep with?
[05:47] <walden> :)
[05:47] <shrewduser> ok i'm doing a dist upgrade (exciting:) bbl
[05:47] <tristanmike> mavric2001: http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[05:48] <Zoo> hi slavik , we meet again :-)
[05:48] <slavik> yo
[05:48] <healot> e4rlgrey, new in Linux is a better general statement
[05:48] <slavik> Zoo: are you the one in the bronx?
[05:48] <Zoo> I was on a vacation, from my systems.. :-)
[05:48] <ltR20> Does anyone have quake 3 on linux?
[05:48] <slavik> Zoo: have you heard of US Tech Solutions?
[05:48] <e4rlgrey> healot: yeah... i guess that'd be right... dual booted with ubuntu before though... and had no problems
[05:48] <Zoo> nope
[05:48] <slavik> it's some kind of a consulting company
[05:48] <Zoo> sounds cool though
[05:48] <slavik> job fairs suck then
[05:48] <walden> e4rlgrey: just asking how do you access the files on it? how do you get to this new drive?
[05:48] <Zoo> i see, I also support this, CGi company,
[05:49] <slavik> I want to do game dev :D
[05:49] <slavik> or gov't
[05:49] <Zoo> its a Business Performance Consulting company, where I live, in my city
[05:49] <healot> ltR20, that still require the original WAD maps...
[05:49] <Zoo> i see
[05:49] <mavric2001> thanks for your opinions
[05:49] <Zoo> well, I thought NSA, but eh
[05:49] <e4rlgrey> walden:  i have to go to /root or view my drives and click "browse" to access the files on it
[05:49] <xDaSx> healot, how can I check to see if I installed Ndiswrapper correctly?
[05:49] <ltR20> what healot?
[05:49] <healot> iwconfig... xDaSx
[05:49] <walden> e4rlgrey: /root or just / ?
[05:49] <slavik> I'd go for Secret service but they keep you on a task force for like only 5 years
[05:49] <Zoo> do.. ifconfig
[05:50] <ltR20> healot, can i download quake 3 for free?
[05:50] <Zoo> you should.. hee. install drake lol
[05:50] <carthik> does anyone know of a new font viewer
[05:50] <e4rlgrey> walden: /root
[05:50] <adventchild> Madpilot: ty
[05:50] <healot> it will tell you if any of your ethernet has wireless extension...
[05:50] <carthik> gfontview doesn't quite cut it
[05:50] <walden> e4rlgrey: and what is this new drive called in /root?
[05:50] <Zoo> the network manager, is bad arse.. and plus, I love the developers that worked on, broadcom pci " :P
[05:50] <healot> ltR20, ubuntu has a free version of quake
[05:50] <healot> Quake 2... not quake 3
[05:50] <xDaSx> healot they say no wireless extension
[05:50] <tristanmike> healot: really ?
[05:50] <Zoo> thanks to the developers. and me not giving up... my Acer is bad arse :-) wireless never has been better :-)
[05:50] <Phunker> _jason, That wasn't the right path I'm afraid :(
[05:51] <slavik> Zoo: dapper?
[05:51] <healot> xDaSx, not even one?
[05:51] <Phunker> !menulogo
[05:51] <ubotu> methinks menulogo is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:51] <Zoo> I have alot of people, when at book stores and cafe, and college, hey, is that linux ? o.o.. :-)
[05:51] <e4rlgrey> walden: it's not called anything... the data's just there as if root IS the drive
[05:51] <_jason> Phunker: how come?
[05:51] <xDaSx> healot: lo no wireless extension
[05:51] <Phunker> _jason, I restarted X and it didn't change :/
[05:51] <Zoo> I say, yep, and they say, I only use windows.. :P
[05:51] <slavik> I can connect to all wep and open networks though
[05:51] <xDaSx> same for the other two
[05:51] <healot> package "quake2" Games (Multiverse)
[05:51] <Zoo> and I tell them, well I work with multiple systems. so
[05:51] <_jason> Phunker: 'locate distributor-logo.png', are you using a different theme maybe?
[05:51] <Zoo> hey slavik ,
[05:52] <walden> e4rlgrey: and is this disk a fat32, or linux or ntfs drive?
[05:52] <slavik> yes?
[05:52] <mavric2001> any known issues with spyware or trojans with automatix?
[05:52] <walden> e4rlgrey: the backup disk, i mean
[05:52] <Zoo> remember all that talk I did about DesktopBSd, and even the official came out.. meh to it .. meh
[05:52] <healot> xDaSx, how about the others? sure "lo" is a virtual interface, it doesn;t connect or have wireless extension
[05:52] <Zoo> ubuntu lights my fire  :-)
[05:52] <e4rlgrey> walden: fat32 is the disk i can only read but not edit
[05:52] <Zoo> I stick with what I know. debian base.... all the way :)
[05:52] <cjones> zoo what causes you to boot to the command line the only fail i get is amixer
[05:52] <Phunker> _jason, different theme yes, but that shouldnt change that logo, that logo doesnt get changed by themes
[05:52] <slavik> pcbsd?
[05:52] <lwizardl> what is this called ? I'm wanting to setup a backend server to serv as the main information host and have two or three terminals pulling the information and updating as needed. is that called terminal servers ?
[05:52] <xDaSx> healot: eth0 and sit0 also say "no wireless extension"
[05:52] <Zoo> thats not worth it either m8
[05:52] <slavik> it's nice, but I like debian based systems :D
[05:52] <Zoo> yep
[05:53] <_jason> Phunker: I believe some themes do, did the locate command turn up anything?
[05:53] <slavik> xDaSx: try wlan0?
[05:53] <_jason> Phunker: and you are using breezy?
[05:53] <healot> xDaSx, then still haven't configure your wifi card yet... did you followed the wiki?
[05:53] <FlannelKing> mavric2001: what's wrong with easyubuntu? it does the same thing. and is more safe.
[05:53] <walden> e4rlgrey: i still dont get it ... if it is a different disk, then it _should_ have an entry in /etc/fstab
[05:53] <Zoo> hey slavik ,
[05:53] <walden> e4rlgrey: unless of course if you mount it manually.
[05:53] <xDaSx> healot: I'm trying to but I'm kinda lost
[05:53] <mavric2001> nothing, ive already used automatix however just curious
[05:53] <Phunker> _jason, no Dapper, but I think I just found out the prob
[05:53] <_jason> Phunker: what's that?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> FlannelKing,  and it dont have a huge flamwar going on about it.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:53] <Phunker> It didn't copy or something
[05:53] <slavik> Zoo: yes?
[05:53] <healot> xDaSx, i'm lost with these text too :)
[05:53] <firewire> Why does dpkg continue with a commit even if it detects corruption?
[05:54] <firewire> resulting in corrupt packages being installed..
[05:54] <tristanmike> healot: how do i install a free quake for Ubuntu ?
[05:54] <slavik> firewire: I don't think it does
[05:54] <slavik> does it?
[05:54] <_jason> Phunker: you don't need to restart X, just do 'killall gnome-panel'
[05:54] <Phunker> _jason, /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png?
[05:54] <firewire> slavik: adept finishes the commit then marks the packages as "BROKEN (Installed"
[05:54] <Phunker> !menulogo
[05:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, menulogo is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[05:54] <vince_> Ok anyone mind a compleate newb question?   What is the linux equivelent of a "shortcut" in Linux?
[05:54] <slavik> does broken mean corrupted?
[05:54] <firewire> so now I have a box that's completely broken just because I tried to install gnome :(
[05:55] <walden> vince_: ln, softlink. man ln
[05:55] <healot> tristanmike, add "multiverse" to your repos, update, and search for package "quake2" and "quake2-data"
[05:55] <_jason> vince_: symlink
[05:55] <slavik> vince_: symbolic link
[05:55] <Zoo> I went to this Computer Deli place to buy ram for my  workstation, and ide cable etc, other things as well, and this geek guy was like,  Slackware, run level 3 what, and I was like, .... What do you want  a medal, I already know a bit about slackware, and that is uses compressed like system, etc.. whatever blah blah, and gentoo, but I like supporting ubuntu, its more simple to deal with, and is widely supported world wide, and my customers
[05:55] <Zoo>  seem to enjoy what I set up for them,
[05:55] <tristanmike> healot: it says I still need the data from the cd
[05:55] <e4rlgrey> walden:  all i know is that when i installed ubuntu it said the disk was "disabled" when i went to system/administration/disks I then enabled it and the access path became /root and it said the owner was root and all the files are in /root... and i can read it... copy data from it... but not delete anything on it
[05:55] <vince_> Ok.. How would I set one up?
[05:55] <firewire> slavik: I get errors like this when I try to deactivate: usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-terminal.schemas:5610: parser error : Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding !
[05:55] <walden> e4rlgrey: ah, ok
[05:55] <healot> tristanmike, yes... as I said before, you need the map data from the Original CD
[05:55] <_jason> vince_: ln -s /link/to /link/name
[05:55] <vince_> I need to create links in my home DIR to my music librarys and the like in my FAT32 partition
[05:55] <Zoo> people, and competition with distributions.. thats silly
[05:55] <tristanmike> healot: so it's not free....you must pay for the cd
[05:56] <vince_> _Jason: Ok so let me make sure i have this right hten
[05:56] <Zoo> I just laugh at them :-)
[05:56] <slavik> Zoo: have you read RMS speech?
[05:56] <healot> yup...
[05:56] <Zoo> next time I go back there to buy something, I am going be like, wearing an ubuntu Golf T :-)
[05:56] <vince_> ln -s /mnt/hda2/Music /home/vince/Music
[05:56] <healot> the Linux version is free, the maps are not... tristanmike
[05:56] <Zoo> ?
[05:56] <_jason> vince_: that will point /home/vince/Music to /mnt/hda2/Music
[05:56] <slavik> offtopic
[05:57] <vince_> _jason: Ok I think thats what I want
[05:57] <firewire> man this is annoying
[05:57] <vince_> Thanks!
[05:57] <walden> e4rlgrey: ok, open a terminal and type "sudo mkdir /media/backup"
[05:57] <Phunker> _jason, still no luck
[05:57] <xDaSx> healot: ok, I have to install utils to use ndiswrapper, do i need: hoary hedgehog, brezzy badger, or dapper drake, which, may i add, sounds ridiculous
[05:57] <Zoo> and hey slavik , I runnin skype , its awesome m8, I thought it was all bad on win, and my friends, don't even know about skype on linux, and I got alot of people involved using ubuntu, I feel that I have contributed in my ways :-)
[05:57] <healot> xDaSx, just choose uno :)
[05:57] <slavik> is there a util similar to spacemonger?
[05:57] <Phunker> And thats the only path that comes up under locate
[05:57] <tristanmike> healot: well what's the point then ? :P
[05:57] <slavik> Zoo: do !v2000z :P
[05:57] <xDaSx> healot: Hoary it is
[05:58] <e4rlgrey> walden: ok... done
[05:58] <Phunker> I wonder if Aiglx is effecting it or something :-/
[05:58] <walden> e4rlgrey: then goto System > administration > disks, and for this new disk that you added, change the access path to /media/backup and also note down what the "Device" it is
[05:58] <Zoo> o.o
[05:58] <Zoo> Zo.o
[05:58] <slavik> !v2000z
[05:58] <ubotu> v2000z is, like, The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z
[05:58] <Zoo> well I got my books to study, I don't wantt o yap too much :-)
[05:58] <firewire> is there a way to reinstall a package?
[05:58] <slavik> firewire: yes
[05:58] <healot> tristanmike, it's for the original users to try their linux version?
[05:58] <slavik> apt-get reinstall?
[05:58] <Zoo> ubotu, I'm not runnin breezy blah, :P
[05:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Zoo
[05:58] <_jason> firewire: sudo aptitude reinstall package
[05:58] <Zoo> nice to see ya though :P
[05:59] <slavik> or uninstall and then install again?
[05:59] <walden> slavik: i use a v4000 compaq and it has almost the same problems...
[05:59] <Zoo> <--- independant developer.. currently working with drake :-)
[05:59] <walden> like a weird error when i startup about the CD/DVD drive
[05:59] <slavik> walden: what kind of problems?
[05:59] <e4rlgrey> walden: ok... done
[05:59] <Phunker> _jason, anymore ideas?
[05:59] <Zoo> <--- also helps.. MIrcroSoft :-)
[05:59] <walden> slavik: dmesg filled with some error 0x70
[05:59] <slavik> for USB devices?
[06:00] <walden> e4rlgrey: in System > admin > disks, what is the "Device" for this disk?
[06:00] <e4rlgrey> walden: the access path doesn't remain /media/backup.... it changes right back to /root
[06:00] <_jason> Phunker: well in dapper it may have changed... but try renaming distributor-logo.png to distributor-logo.png.backup and killall gnome-panel and see if it changes to a gnome foot
[06:00] <Phunker> No it's the same
[06:00] <Phunker> I changed it before
[06:00] <Phunker> Then after a system update it broke
[06:00] <_jason> Phunker: did locate turn up anything?
[06:00] <walden> e4rlgrey: hm. what is against the "Device" at the top of the "partition properties"?
[06:00] <adventchild> Madpilot: i downloaded wine through the SPM... what dir would it be in?
[06:01] <walden> slavik: do you have the same laptop? the v2000z?
[06:01] <Siph0n> WAHOO!!! GOT IT TO WORK! :)
[06:01] <cin> :D
[06:01] <tkup> does anyone not see text in this flash demo: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/vtp_flash/? I can't!
[06:01] <slavik> yes
[06:01] <e4rlgrey> walden: /dev/hdb1
[06:01] <Zoo> hey slavik , forgot to tell ya
[06:01] <slavik> I wrote the wiki page for it
[06:01] <Zoo> before I watch movie, etc, and study
[06:01] <cin> Siph0n, ^5
[06:01] <healot> Siph0n, a good thing to remember, document your work around :)
[06:01] <slavik> for usb devices, I think you need to upgrade the kernel to the latest ...
[06:01] <Phunker> _jason, ya locate turned up that exact path
[06:02] <walden> slavik: ok. i just installed ubuntu on the v4000, about 2 days ago, so i dont qualify as experienced enough to write anything.. but still
[06:02] <healot> tkup, that's Flash 8 movies.... thus, the default Flash 7 or the GPL'ed Flash player cannot play those movies well
[06:02] <walden> slavik: latest kernel from where? my usb mouse works fine..
[06:02] <Zoo> this guy, like designed hotkey, was able to hit key, split his screen, be out of x, but still have his GUI on bottom lol.. split green deal, I'm pretty dam sure you could design virtual desktop that way as well lol
[06:02] <slavik> walden: same here :P
[06:02] <walden> slavik: haha. ok.
[06:02] <slavik> what about usb drive?
[06:02] <_jason> Phunker: don't know then, they must be doing something else in dapper
[06:02] <walden> slavik: let me plug in the ipod..
[06:02] <walden> hold on
[06:02] <slavik> my usb thumb drive wouldn't work
[06:02] <_jason> Phunker: download the code and start reading :)
[06:02] <Phunker> hehe
[06:03] <Zoo> btw slavik , snes works great, I'm working on , pcsxe2 etc.. ps2 for ubuntu, and render rates are awesome on drake :-)
[06:03] <Siph0n> healot, yea definatelly am gonna do that
[06:03] <slavik> then I updated the kernel and it works
[06:03] <Zoo> dapper draker.. 6 :-)
[06:03] <tkup> healot, shoot that sucks :(
[06:03] <slavik> Zoo: you are one of the devs of pcsx2?
[06:03] <Zoo> hee
[06:03] <Zoo> ;)
[06:03] <Siph0n> healot, expecially since I may have to present it to my teacher and redo everything
[06:03] <adventchild> _jason: i have installed wine using the SPM...  what would be the next step in using it to view/install my window$ based cd?
[06:03] <slavik> because I have problems with pcsx >.<
[06:03] <Zoo> independently speaking. :P
[06:04] <slavik> no analog joystick plugin ...
[06:04] <Zoo> ah
[06:04] <Zoo> o.o
[06:04] <healot> tkup, can't help much, got to use Windows version of Flash, Firefox or IE...
[06:04] <tristanmike> Siph0n: you should post it on the wiki
[06:04] <Zoo> o.o
[06:04] <_jason> adventchild: no idea, I've never used wine.  All I know is you do 'wine file.exe' and pray it works
[06:04] <adventchild> ty
[06:04] <Siph0n> tristanmike, lol its not done yet, but yea IF i ever get it working i will :)
[06:04] <slavik> walden: your ipod works?
[06:04] <Zoo> slavik, , get into usb, controllers
[06:05] <adventchild> _jason: if it is on cd, would the file be under '~/Desktop/*cdname*/filename.exe?
[06:05] <slavik> Zoo: I have one
[06:05] <slavik> a ps2 one
[06:05] <Zoo> ^_^
[06:05] <slavik> no plugin to use it though
[06:05] <Zoo> i see
[06:05] <Zoo> whats the model eh
[06:05] <slavik> epsxe has only digital built in ... so analog external doesn't work
[06:05] <walden> slavik: yup. nautilus opens up
[06:05] <Zoo> I"ll check into for you, I gettin ready watch movie, drink study
[06:05] <walden> slavik: and i can copy data from/to it
[06:05] <slavik> it's a ps2 compatible controller :P
[06:05] <slavik> hmm
[06:05] <_jason> adventchild: /media/cdrom0/filename.exe usually, try going in a terminal and navigating to the cd
[06:05] <Zoo> oh I see
[06:06] <slavik> walden: do you still have error 70 in dmesg?
[06:06] <Zoo> duh I was thinkin something else, your analog joy stick pads, control, don't work
[06:06] <Zoo> eh
[06:06] <walden> slavik: mine is Linux zaphod 2.6.15-19-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 20 16:46:02 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:06] <walden> slavik: yeah. wait. lemme show you the messg.
[06:06] <slavik> walden: pm it
[06:06] <_jason> adventchild: someone was saying earlier that nautilus lets you double click on exe's if you have installed wine, you can try that too
[06:06] <adventchild> tried it...
[06:06] <slavik> _jason: I can confirm that it works
[06:06] <_jason> adventchild: ha
[06:06] <Zoo> do.. wine exe
[06:06] <slavik> I suggest using terminal anyway
[06:06] <adventchild> ill try again tho
[06:07] <adventchild> ty
[06:07] <Zoo> ->  wine filename.exe
[06:07] <slavik> sometimes there are errors that close wine
[06:07] <walden> slavik: that message is like all over dmesg
[06:07] <sean__> ok so i have a dual boot system but in linux i can't write files to my windows mount, how can i change that
[06:07] <iceman> help what would cause a keyboard to need extreme log key presses to type
[06:07] <slavik> !v2000z
[06:07] <ubotu> v2000z is, like, totally, The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z
[06:07] <Zoo> you need to get into using, maybe CodeWeavers, or Vmware, you continue have problems, install vmware tools, but usually, you will be just fine with workstation 5 and above, installs sounds and uses your host as its power, :-)
[06:08] <iceman> damn type rate is ungodly slow
[06:08] <Zoo> emulating windows software on linux, is pesky,, only a majority will run kind of stable :-)
[06:08] <Zoo> so to speak
[06:08] <Siph0n> sean__, im pretty sure u cant write to NTFS
[06:08] <walden> slavik: and yeah.. there is a nice icon for the ipod on the desk :)
[06:08] <sean__> oh ok
[06:08] <adventchild> slavik: i keep getting an external exception error...  am i doing something wrong?
[06:08] <Siph0n> sean__, maybe FAT32, but im not too sure?
[06:08] <Zoo> sean,
[06:09] <slavik> adventchild: paste the entire error thing into a pm to me
[06:09] <slavik> or into pastebin
[06:09] <Zoo> you have to edit the configuration, to be able to write it to .. fat, etc but I'm not sure if you will be allowed to write to ntfs, because of its security...
[06:09] <slavik> walden, no clue ... I don't have that
[06:09] <walden> slavik: ok
[06:09] <slavik> walden, what does "uname -r" print out?
[06:09] <iceman> help
[06:09] <Zoo> i"M pretty dam sure you can't write to ntfs, unless you were to hack the ntfs file system :) and your shell in win to allow it :-)
[06:09] <healot> to be able to write on FAT32, just set the option "rw" or may want set the (dfu)mask properly
[06:09] <Madpilot> adventchild, sorry, was afk for a while there
[06:10] <walden> slavik:Linux zaphod 2.6.15-19-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 20 16:46:02 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:10] <walden> it should!!
[06:10] <slavik> walden: are you running dapper?
[06:10] <walden> slavik: yup
[06:10] <slavik> badger here ...
[06:10] <walden> slavik: oh.
[06:10] <walden> i just downloaded the 6.06 thing and installed it on monday.
[06:11] <slavik> oh
[06:11] <walden> :)
[06:11] <Zoo> slavik, just creat you a fat partition, and copy your win files there etc, but, eh, I use 80 GB lacie , and its crossover platforms, fat, etc, however, I have couple hard drives in my workstation.s o , I"m not worried, and I use, Acronis Disk Director Suite m8
[06:11] <slavik> submit it on launchpad
[06:11] <walden> works good.
[06:11] <Zoo> i meant sean*
[06:11] <walden> what is launchpad?
[06:11] <adventchild> slavik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11496
[06:11] <slavik> Zoo: 40gb only for ubuntu :)
[06:11] <adventchild> Madpilot: np
[06:11] <slavik> and an ftp server on my windows system :)
[06:11] <adventchild> adventchild, hehehe
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> Dreamglider, try this ... uninsert it ... type dmesg ... insert it and dmesg again see if anything is detected\
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> Dreamglider, try this ... uninsert it ... type dmesg ... insert it and dmesg again see if anything is detected\
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> 444+
[06:12] <slavik> adventchild: seems like that program is not liking something about it's environment
[06:12] <Zoo> slavik, its only got a 20 GB spot on my laptop, and I got a 60, gb seagate, and a 80 GB lacie, I am probably going be gettin.. sata, seagate, and a Asusl  board, but I still using my AMD Athlon xp 2600 , and my mach speed for my workstation :-)
[06:12] <adventchild> slavik: crap....  i need that prgm for school
[06:12] <Zoo> ASUS*
[06:12] <slavik> sempron 3000+ here :)
[06:12] <sgt-dyke> Hey it's me again... i want to know... could it be possible i have trouble with my jvc Mp3 player... beacause the memory is Vfat
[06:13] <iceman> how to fix keyboard rate
[06:13] <slavik> turns out it doesn't have 64bit:(
[06:13] <iceman> help
[06:13] <shrewduser> i'm doing a dist upgrade to dapper, do i have to worry about removing anything afterwards?
[06:13] <Zoo> guy said. Sata Seagate, smokes hell out of raptors, I told him, I don't even plan to use, WD< I use me Sea only :-)
[06:13] <adventchild> slavik: is there another prgm like wine that might work?
[06:13] <slavik> adventchild: did you run it through terminal?
[06:13] <adventchild> yup
[06:13] <slavik> paste the output in terminal if any
[06:13] <Zoo> adventchild,
[06:13] <slavik> adventchild: cedega ...
[06:13] <healot> slavik, did you actuall bought the 64bit version of Sempron?
[06:13] <Zoo> CodeWeavers CrossOver, or VMware, :-)
[06:14] <slavik> it was in a alptop
[06:14] <Zoo> and then theres win4 lin, but still.. Cedega is built on wine , etc.
[06:14] <Zoo> I know becuaes I have its latest lol
[06:14] <slavik> but turns out that it is not the later version of sempron
[06:14] <racter> ok this is really tragic but is there any way to undo 'rm' in ubuntu?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Does Beagle index Thunderbird?
[06:14] <shrewduser> cedega is built on pre GPL wine isn't it?
[06:14] <Madpilot> racter, not easily
[06:14] <Zoo> hee
[06:14] <slavik> shrewduser: no
[06:14] <Zoo> same technology. sore of.. CodeWeavers N alll :P
[06:15] <racter> Madpilot: it doesn't have to be easy, do you have any suggestions?
[06:15] <Zoo> want me send it too ya :D
[06:15] <adventchild> slavik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11497
[06:15] <slavik> cedega = compiled wine with tools if you buy cedega, can get the source fre though
[06:15] <Zoo> i even, converted rpm cedega, into a deb file :P
[06:15] <walden> did you do more than alien cedega*.rpm?