[16:53] <gambl0re> yes
[16:54] <nacc> gambl0re: no, it is not.
[16:54] <nacc> gambl0re: it starts with an option
[16:54] <nacc> gambl0re: try to run that from the terminal, on its own
[16:54] <gambl0re> sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort --buffer-size=10G | uniq -c | sort -n"
[16:54] <pavlos> gambl0re, find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort -n --buffer-size=10G | uniq -c
[16:54] <nacc> gambl0re: and why are you calling sort twice?
[16:54] <gambl0re> thats what i did
[16:55] <gambl0re> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/653096/how-to-free-inode-usage
[16:56] <Franco63> i'm very starting to use ubuntu...bored   with  windows ...  everything seem to be ok ..  just if  i try ro use tor browswer have same problems... a  windows appear > SIGNATURE VERIFICATION FAILED! YOU MIGHT BE UNDER ATTACK, OR THERE MIGHT BE A NETWORKING  PROBLEM... i don think have any netwqorkk problem because  i can use  crome normally...  sambody can help me?  ty
[16:56] <tizzja> hei
[16:56] <tizzja> ciao
[16:57] <tizzja> :)
[16:57] <Franco63> ciao !
[16:57] <tizzja> ops
[16:57] <gambl0re> Franco63, dont use linux
[16:57] <gambl0re> unless you've been using it since you were born
[16:57] <tizzja> wrong chat innit?!
[16:57] <Franco63> why not?
[16:57] <gambl0re> its too hard to learn
[16:58] <gambl0re> especially if you are used to windows
[16:58] <ducasse> gambl0re: don't say that
[16:58] <nacc> gambl0re: FUD. please don't spread that
[16:58] <Franco63> yes i used  windows for about 30  years
[16:58] <gambl0re> same with me
[16:58] <DJones> tizzja: No, this channel is support for Ubuntu only, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, or ##chat
[16:58] <nacc> gambl0re: you have not yet said what error you get with a valid command, if any
[16:58] <gambl0re> learning ubuntu is like learning a new language
[16:59] <z1haze_work> llutz: thank you - noted. So even if a user has the same group of the file owner, he cannot change the permissions? only the actual owner or root. I will remember that
[16:59] <tizzja> DJones I was called in another channel and I wrongly wrote her
[16:59] <tizzja> *here
[17:00] <llutz> z1haze_work: correct. group-members may do what the permission say (rwx) but not change permissions
[17:00] <Franco63> ops  sorry.. ty
[17:00] <DJones> tizzja: No problem
[17:00] <theparadoxer02> i am getting sa-compile error help me please !
[17:00] <ducasse> Franco63: just hang around, someone will help you
[17:01] <nacc> theparadoxer02: your user is not able to run `rm` or `chmod`?
[17:02] <ioria> Franco63, it's the same issue ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/881082/tor-installation-error-signature-verification-failed
[17:02] <theparadoxer02> nacc, i am not able to install anything
[17:02] <nacc> theparadoxer02: yes, i understand. Can you, e.g. `touch /tmp/foo; rm /tmp/foo` ?
[17:03] <theparadoxer02> the error i am getting is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078459/
[17:03] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: hey
[17:03] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, finally you came
[17:04] <nacc> theparadoxer02: the paste you provided earlier indicates your system is rather broken, but maybe EriC^^ has context
[17:04] <pavlos> gambl0re, you can move the uniq before the sort so the output is in Ascending order
[17:04] <theparadoxer02> due to this error i am not even able to upgrade!
[17:04] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try "dpkg -S /usr/bin/sa-compile" and see what it says
[17:04] <akis> hi all. i am wondering how can i check xfce4-weather-plugin version on my xubuntu 16.04.2 system and how can i update it?
[17:04] <gambl0re> pavlos, i got it working. thanks
[17:04] <Franco63> ty  ioria
[17:04] <pavlos> gambl0re, np
[17:04] <EriC^^> nacc: yeah he wanted to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 but it broke some packages for him
[17:04] <ioria> Franco63, ok ...
[17:04] <nacc> akis: `apt-cache policy xfce4-weather-plugin`
[17:05] <nacc> akis: and to update it, `apt update; apt full-upgrade`. If there are updates for it, that will insta it
[17:05] <nacc> *install
[17:05] <nacc> EriC^^: ah ok
[17:05] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, sa-compile: /usr/bin/sa-compile
[17:06] <haruko> Hello, Ubuntu 16.10 is working great on my Lenovo Yoga 710, except that the battery lasts just 3 hours (compared to more than 2-3x on Windows). What could be causing this? I suspect that either the CPU or the GPU are not idling correctly. Is there a way to measure the power consumption by hardware part? Like $ top. Btw, I'm booting with acpi=noirq
[17:06] <brimestone> hey guys... I've been using Ubuntu server since the early days.. and i was wondering if i could do the same Server stuffs on the desktop version? or is that recommended..
[17:06] <ducasse> haruko: try powertop and/or tlp
[17:07] <brimestone> be nice to have a GUI when you need it.
[17:08] <ducasse> brimestone: both have access to the same packages
[17:08] <EriC^^> !info sa-compile wily
[17:08] <brimestone> and stability?
[17:08] <ducasse> brimestone: the only difference is what is installed by default
[17:08] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: maybe reinstalling sa-compile will fix stuff
[17:09] <nacc> EriC^^: the specific errors from sa-compile are about rm and chmod, though? is that typical?
[17:09] <EriC^^> nacc: yeah i found a thread about somebody upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 and he got the same error, nothing about how to solve it though
[17:09] <brimestone> So, I have a recipe of packages.. I can essentially create my server on the Desktop version, yes?
[17:09] <nacc> EriC^^: hrm :/
[17:09] <nacc> brimestone: yes
[17:09] <EriC^^> i'm thinking maybe use dpkg to extract the deb, and manually copy the binary over or so
[17:10] <brimestone> and would you guys recommend it?
[17:10] <nacc> EriC^^: that is probably reasonable (as much as it can be)
[17:10] <akis> nacc: system respond that xfce4-weather-plugin is already the newest version (0.8.6-1) but 11 days ago there is a new one version. how can i update the existing version to the new one?
[17:10] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, i tried the "sudo apt-get remove sa-compile"
[17:10] <nacc> akis: where do you know there is a newer version?
[17:11] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try "apt-cache show sa-compile" and go to the line that has /ubuntu/main/something....deb and please paste it here
[17:11] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079173/
[17:11] <ducasse> akis: ubuntu packages aren't updated to later versions
[17:11] <akis> i was informed from here https://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/
[17:11] <brimestone> nacc, ducasse: you would guys recommend it?
[17:11] <nacc> akis: that's upstream, not hte packages
[17:11] <nacc> !latest | akis
[17:12] <kierqueen> how do i see th e version of a executable without pip --version but dpkg or apt, but I want to see it on the installed pakcage, not the one that is remote
[17:12] <kierqueen> local packages version coommand
[17:12] <nacc> kierqueen: an executable's version is usually `executable --version`
[17:12] <nacc> kierqueen: if you mean the package's version `apt-cache policy <pkgname>`
[17:12] <haruko> ducasse: according to powertop, idling doesn't seem to be the issue. Any ideas?
[17:13] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079178/
[17:13] <ducasse> brimestone: depends, it's ok for development or home use
[17:13] <akis> nacc: i understand this but developers informed me that newer version solves some problems. what do i have to do?
[17:13] <nacc> akis: build a version in a PPA? or ask them to? did you file a bug?
[17:14] <brimestone> so, for work/production that implies a No.
[17:14] <kierqueen> apt-cache is for locally installed? but there are several pip's one is in my virtualenv, and not in the /bin/pip nacc
[17:14] <nacc> kierqueen: apt-cache will show you both local and remote, if you used apt to install (generally)
[17:15] <ducasse> brimestone: a gui vastly increases the attack surface
[17:15] <nacc> kierqueen: packaging (dpkg or apt) can only know what is installed via itself, generally
[17:15] <nacc> kierqueen: what are you specifically trying to do?
[17:15] <brimestone> Enough said.. thanks Ducasse
[17:15] <kierqueen> nacc: kk
[17:16] <caene> I'm new to Ubuntu and I think I messesed up. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04. I messed around with the themes settings. Everything worked fine. I noticed I didn't have a "extension" option or shell-theme option in my gnome-tweak-tool. Being noob, I thought installing gnome-shell-extensions would solve something. After restart I can't even get into X.
[17:17] <akis> nacc: there is a warning on Installed version: 0.8.6-1 : Met.no LocationforecastLTS API states that this version of the webservice is deprecated, and the plugin needs to be	adapted to use a newer version, or it will stop working within	a few months.	Please file a bug on https://bugzilla.xfce.org if no one	else has done so yet. Also from some time ago (maybe 2 months) there is no update for sunrise and sunset time and under 'Astronomical Data' th
[17:17] <akis> ere is the notice that: 'Data not available, will use sane default values for night and day'.
[17:17] <caene> I removed/purged gnome-shell-extentions hoping it would solve something, it didn't.
[17:17] <returnthis> I am trying to run plantuml.jar (yes, I know) but openjdk aborts and dumps core.
[17:18] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: wb
[17:18] <theparadoxer02> yeah i am here
[17:19] <theparadoxer02> was rebooting my system
[17:19] <akis> nacc: but they announced that were fixed on newest version. So i am wondering how can i update to it if it is recommended it.
[17:19] <nacc> akis: ok, did you file a bug with ubuntu as well?
[17:19] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: something odd is going on, the package version you have is 3.4.1-3 instead of 3.4.1 which is the wily one, the other is the 16.04 one
[17:19] <theparadoxer02> oh!
[17:20] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: yeah i think the repos are mixed up
[17:20] <theparadoxer02> listen i tried installing curl
[17:20] <akis> nacc: you mena if i reported it?
[17:20] <akis> *mena
[17:20] <theparadoxer02> now the error coming is _
[17:20] <akis> *mean
[17:20] <EriC^^> what's spamassassin anyways? it's not required for dpkg is it? anyone know?
[17:21] <llutz> EriC^^: spamfilter software/daemon, email
[17:21] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079215/
[17:21] <EriC^^> llutz: ah, so dpkg works normally without it right?
[17:21] <llutz> EriC^^: sure
[17:22] <EriC^^> cool, thanks
[17:22] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try dpkg -P --force-all sa-compile
[17:22] <EriC^^> *sudo
[17:23] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, when i tried upgerading the upgation showed me that some of the files are not upagraded !
[17:23] <nacc> akis: yes, to ubuntu, not upstream
[17:23] <nacc> EriC^^: e-mail spam filtering on the server
[17:23] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try ps aux | grep dpkg and paste it
[17:23] <theparadoxer02> but when i click on about this computer it is showing version 16.10
[17:23] <EriC^^> nacc: aha
[17:23] <akis> nacc: no.
[17:24] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: 16.10? O.o
[17:24] <nacc> akis: then it is unlikely to get fixed in ubuntu
[17:24] <nacc> !bug | akis
[17:24] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[17:24] <theparadoxer02> sorry 16.04
[17:24] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, try ps aux | grep dpkg
[17:25] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, abhi      3241  0.0  0.0  14224   936 pts/1    S+   22:54   0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg
[17:25] <ducasse> akis: the xfce developers have a ppa with updated packages, but i know nothing about the stability of those.
[17:25] <ubby> hi
[17:25] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, type sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:26] <ubby> I find many outdated tutorials, some from the eth0 and init.d era
[17:26] <ubby> I ethernet interface with dhcp - but want to force using another DNS server.
[17:26] <ubby> *have
[17:26] <ubby> how can I do this in latest ubuntu lts?
[17:26] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done@
[17:26] <nacc> ubby: are you on a desktop?
[17:26] <ubby> nacc: VM on terminal
[17:26] <ubby> yes, desktop, you could call that
[17:27] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, ran the command "sudo dpkg -P --force-all sa-compile"
[17:27] <nacc> ubby: then use network manager
[17:27] <theparadoxer02> it executed proparly
[17:27] <ubby> nacc: I installed it - can I use from CLI?
[17:27] <ubby> service is also started for it
[17:27] <nacc> ubby: network-manager? nmcli
[17:28] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, i think try to install something and see how it goes
[17:28] <_bart> Hello, my script is run on both shutdown and startup, this is my configuration: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/36615fd6c3b602408c61d25b2882156d Any hints on what the problem is?
[17:28] <whoever_> hi all , aftor runing dist-update, i goot undesirable results, so how do i do a roll back
[17:29] <_bart> I want it to only run at startup
[17:29] <theparadoxer02> i ran sudo apt-get auto remove
[17:29] <ubby> nacc: nmcli shows connection, but none is ens33 :/
[17:29] <theparadoxer02> now its removing too many files
[17:29] <theparadoxer02> i fear ,my lappy wouldn't boot up after this
[17:30] <EriC^^> _bart: put it in a crontab as @reboot /path/to/script
[17:30] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok don't let it
[17:30] <whoever_> _bart: than add it to auto-star  under startup addp
[17:30] <nacc> ubby: does `ip a` show ens33?
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, on thing i am continously getting now is
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[17:31] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: can you paste what it said about removing stuff?
[17:31] <ubby> nacc: 2: ens33:  [...]
[17:31] <ubby> yes
[17:31] <ubby> but not in nmcli :O
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> okay
[17:31] <_bart> EriC^^: I can see how that could work, but it should work just using a symlink too right? run level 2, 3, 5 are not shutdown levels?
[17:31] <ubby> ubby: nmcli three wired connections
[17:32] <nacc> ubby: is NM managing that connection?
[17:32] <nacc> ubby: or are you using /etc/network/interfaces or something?
[17:32] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079261/
[17:32] <ubby> nacc: hm, I guess not? can I let it manage it?
[17:32] <ducasse> _bart: you could also put it in rc.local
[17:32] <ubby> nacc: I never used it until now
[17:32] <nacc> theparadoxer02: you can just delete that file, iirc
[17:32] <ubby> ubuntu minimal terminal for my dev stuff, so there is no desktop, gui or other things
[17:32] <nacc> theparadoxer02: and/or ignore the message, it's justa  warning
[17:32] <nacc> ubby: oh, i just asked if it was a desktop, and you said yes
[17:33] <ubby> nacc: do I need a full desktop GUI for this?
[17:33] <ubby> can I do this with nmcli, too?
[17:33] <steven> another one, how can I reconfigre (more like is there an ubuntu ish way to) reconfigure the OS to use stock kernels?
[17:33] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: aha
[17:33] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: installing curl did that?
[17:33] <nacc> steven: what kernel are you using that's not stock?
[17:33] <theparadoxer02> yeah it installed!
[17:33] <nacc> ubby: well, typically, NM is used with a desktop
[17:33] <ubby> I see
[17:33] <EriC^^> !info gstreamer xenial
[17:34] <nacc> ubby: if not, you can use /etc/network/interfaces
[17:34] <steven> I dont know, the server hsoting company ships with an ubuntu build and a custom kernel which sucks so I wanna install (and did install) the custom kernel
[17:34] <EriC^^> !info gstreamer1.0-clutter xenial
[17:34] <ubby> nacc: ah right, but the issue is that /etc/network/interfaces doesn't accept a dns server entry when the connection is dhcp.
[17:34] <_bart> ducasse: rc.local is a good idea, will do that. Is there also an easy option to run something only on shutting down?
[17:34] <EriC^^> !info gstreamer1.0-clutter wily
[17:34] <steven> eh the stock one ofc, now I gotta tell ubuntu to use that one instead of what ever custom stuff is installed nacc
[17:34] <steven> :)
[17:34] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: it seems to have removed some packages, they were 16.04 packages though
[17:35] <tfitts> this might not be specific to ubuntu but I'm wondering if there is a way to write a script that can start a program and enter commands in the program.  It's an old program and as far as I know doesn't have a way to pipe commands in like normal.
[17:35] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: are all the packages 16.04 right now?
[17:35] <nacc> tfitts: expect
[17:36] <nacc> steven: so reboot?
[17:36] <steven> I did :)
[17:36] <spooky_> hi, anyone of you use apt instead of apt-get ?
[17:36] <tfitts> i'll check it out.  thanks
[17:36] <nacc> spooky_: yes, of course
[17:36] <steven> I guess its some place hardcoded but I couldnt find it nacc
[17:37] <nacc> ubby: i think you can, tbh, but i don't know the incantation
[17:37] <nacc> steven: what do you mean?
[17:37] <nacc> steven: you rebooted and it didn't go to your kernel?
[17:38] <nacc> ubby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StaticDnsWithDhcp ?
[17:38] <steven> ops, someone get rid of invving, the guy pm
[17:38] <steven> s users asking political stuff
[17:38] <nicomachus> steven: please report it in #ubuntu-ops
[17:38] <spooky_> nacc: maybe you had similar situation like me. Well at work we use linux ofc, and ubuntu. When we tried update package lists on Ubunut 16.04 with apt update, nothing happens... well it updateds but apt didn't see new version. After apt-get update apt search shows newer version. Any ideas?
[17:39] <nacc> spooky_: doesn't make sense to me, apt and apt-get update the same file lists, afaik
[17:39] <nicomachus> yea that's spooky
[17:40] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: wb, so i was saying the packages it removed are16.04 ones
[17:40] <nacc> spooky_: we would need to see it in practice to debug, i think
[17:40] <EriC^^> :D
[17:40] <spooky_> nacc: yea its same command but still we tried few times apt update and nothing :D
[17:40] <akis> ducasse: actually the provide the new version 0.8.9 here: https://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/ .
[17:40] <nicomachus> spooky_: might be worth checking apt logs
[17:40] <steven> nacc: it adds -jb1 to the kernel (no idea what thats supposed to mean) so dunno. maybe they have a custom repo and just install custom stuff. its weird
[17:41] <spooky_> hmm well i will check it now one sec.
[17:41] <theparadoxer02> Eric^^ was rebooting
[17:41] <spooky_> i hope server is still online
[17:41] <theparadoxer02> tell me now !
[17:41] <ducasse> akis: that is a source tarball
[17:41] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: wb, so i was saying the packages it removed are16.04 ones
[17:42] <akis> ducasse: what does this mean?
[17:42] <nacc> akis: it is not for ubuntu directly
[17:42] <nacc> steven: sorry, not following
[17:42] <nacc> steven: you installed a new kernel, rebooted
[17:42] <nacc> steven: did you tell your server to boot to that kernel?
[17:42] <caene> I have my Xorg log uploaded. Does anyone have time to check it out and see what's making me not be able to start display manager at boot?
[17:43] <nicomachus> caene: can't hurt to link the paste here.
[17:43] <caene> No info in the log that is sensitive?
[17:43] <ducasse> akis: you want a .deb package
[17:43] <steven> I did, I did. and now its the latest kernel but has a suffix -jb1. I assume its their custom stuff cos I havent seen it before on any other server (that is, using uname -a)
[17:43] <nicomachus> caene: usually not in xorg
[17:43] <caene> alright :)
[17:43] <nacc> steven: -jb1 is not the Ubuntu kernel
[17:44] <steven> thats what I assumed
[17:44] <nacc> akis: as i have said a few times, file a bug with ubuntu and ask the ubuntu developers to provide a fix
[17:44] <theparadoxer02> Eric^^ was rebooting my system
[17:44] <steven> thats why I said its a custom one which I want to get rid of
[17:44] <theparadoxer02> what do i do!
[17:44] <ubby> nacc: wouldn't it be easier using the network manager? well, maybe it isn't
[17:44] <nacc> ubby: i mean, in theory, it's a one-line change
[17:44] <ubby> nacc: isn't that article outdated because it doesn't use the new ens33 thing?
[17:44] <nacc> ubby: ens33 is just a name
[17:45] <caene> My Xorg log, can't boot display manager. Stuck at terminal. https://transfer.sh/14vJW7/help5.txt
[17:45] <ubby> nacc: ok
[17:45] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, should i update ?
[17:45] <akis> ducasse: ok, i understand. there are some installation's details on this archive but does not regard to ubuntu distros?
[17:45] <steven> so I inastalled linux-image-virtual and rebooted nacc and now its the latest version of the kernwl with the jb1 suffix
[17:45] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: no don't do anything yet, and dont run any command if it asks to install/remove etc bunch of stuff
[17:45] <spooky_> nacc: /var/log/apt/term.log nothing show how it was updating
[17:45] <akis> ducasse: i found also this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin
[17:45] <nacc> steven: `apt-cache policy linux-image-virtual` please
[17:45] <steven> gonna check for custom repo
[17:45] <ducasse> akis: it will give you problems later. the xfce ppa i mentioned is your best option.
[17:46] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: first things first did it actually update fully or what, try cat /etc/issue and lsb_release -a
[17:46] <nacc> akis: yes, that's where you report the bug
[17:46] <EriC^^> does it say 16.04 in both, do you remember after you ran sudo do-release-upgrade the first time, did it download a bunch of stuff for a while and then installed them all?
[17:46] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ^
[17:46] <steven> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079327/
[17:47] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, No LSB modules are available.
[17:47] <nacc> steven: pastebin `ls -ahl /boot`
[17:47] <ubby> nacc: Hm, how can I find out what DNS servers are now used?
[17:47] <nacc> ubby: `cat /etc/resolv.conf` ?
[17:47] <akis> nacc: here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW
[17:47] <steven> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079330/
[17:47] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, for "cat/etc/issue" output is "Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l"
[17:48] <ubby> nacc: hm, not the DNS servers I specified in /etc/network/interfaces :(
[17:48] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: let's check the main package, try dpkg -l libc6
[17:48] <ubby> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:48] <EriC^^> which version is installed?
[17:48] <nacc> ubby: did you restart networking?
[17:48] <nacc> !bug | akis
[17:48] <nacc> akis: and yes
[17:48] <ubby> nacc: I restart again, maybe I rstarted it not correctly
[17:48] <nacc> steven: and `uname -a` ?
[17:48] <akis> ducasse: which is this ppa? and will it be updated with this new version?
[17:48] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079334/
[17:49] <ubby> nacc: still <IP_ADDRESS> :(
[17:49] <nacc> ubby: probably becuse of network manager
[17:49] <nacc> ubby: which means that it's running a dnsmasq on the localhost
[17:49] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, that's the 16.04 one
[17:49] <nacc> ubby: if you don't need network manager you can remove it again
[17:49] <akis> nacc: ok, thanks. No one reports this problem.
[17:49] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: so let's make the sources.list xenial again
[17:49] <ubby> nacc: yes, removed it :)
[17:49] <steven> nacc: Linux j93410.servers.jiffybox.net 4.4.27-x86_64-jb1 #1 SMP Thu Oct 27 13:51:17 CEST 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:49] <nacc> steven: taht is none of hte kernels in /boot
[17:49] <ducasse> akis: i don't know, but it is very likely. ask in #xubuntu for the development ppa, but as i said - i don't know how stable those packages are.
[17:50] <steven> nacc: I know :D
[17:50] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, how should i ?
[17:50] <nacc> steven: so you should look at the grub configuration
[17:50] <nacc> steven: /boot/grub/grub.cfg for the entry you chose to boot
[17:51] <nacc> steven: keep in mind, if you're using a hosting company, they can restrict you in any way they see fit
[17:51] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: run sudo sed -i 's/wily/xenial/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:51] <steven> its a vps
[17:51] <Bashing-om> caene: What is up that you still boot with 'nomodeset' when the nvidia driver apprears to be installed ?
[17:51] <steven> shouldnt be, but who knows.
[17:52] <nacc> steven: shouldn't be what?
[17:52] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done!
[17:52] <steven> shouldnt be resitrcted
[17:52] <nacc> !who | steven: as well, it's really hard to follow along if you don't highlight me directly :)
[17:52] <ubby> nacc: ok, I restarted resolvconf, force update, too - it is still <IP_ADDRESS>...
[17:52] <ubby> nacc: ifdown ens33; ifup ens33
[17:52] <ubby> no avail :(
[17:52] <akis> ducasse: ok, i understand. do you think that it is likely for ubuntu repos to include an update for this plug in at recent future?
[17:52] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, sudo apt-get update , then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:52] <nacc> ubby: see what's lisetning on <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[17:52] <ubby> it is a new ubuntu installation, nothing really exotic about it
[17:52] <steven> sure thing nacc
[17:53] <ubby> nacc: dnsmasq
[17:53] <nacc> akis: only if you file the bug!
[17:53] <ubby> hm, maybe because of virtualbox? but why should it change that? it doesn't make sense.
[17:53] <steven> anyway imma take a look at the grub conf, maybe they just did some weird config change I havent noticed. fanks for the time nacc
[17:53] <nacc> ubby: did you reboot after removing network manager?
[17:53] <akis> nacc: ok. thank you for advises.
[17:53] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done!
[17:53] <ubby> nacc: ok, I will reboot the whole damn thing - maybe this solves it. should take some minutes
[17:54] <nacc> ubby: well, just reboot the VM
[17:54] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:54] <ubby> nacc: I reboot the whole thing, yes
[17:54] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079350/
[17:55] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:56] <ubby> nacc: restarted the system, still <IP_ADDRESS> in resolv.conf
[17:57] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: that looks good
[17:57] <ioria> ubby, nmcli dev list eth0 | grep IP4
[17:58] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, i think everything is okay now!
[17:58] <EriC^^> wondering about those packages it removed, they're mostly libs
[17:58] <ioria> ubby, sorry, nmcli dev list <your interface> | grep IP4
[17:58] <chris32> Does AMD or Nvidia has better drivers on linux? I need an energy efficient card but if drivers of Nvidia aren't good I may choose an AMD one
[17:58] <theparadoxer02> thanks you so much , i can't tell you how helpful it was!
[17:58] <EriC^^> yeah seems good, there's one called libusbmuxd there, i think its for usb tethering
[17:59] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: no problem, sure thing
[18:01] <Bashing-om> chris32: Depends on what your immediate meeds are . In the furure AMD will be the way to go . AMD/ubuntu with growing pains presently .
[18:01] <steven> nacc: yeah the changed the boot process, I have to log into the web UI and tell em to not boot their kernel first, THEN they read my menu.lst file ( z1haze_work stupid eh?)
[18:02] <Bashing-om> camako: Paying attention ?
[18:02] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, was there the error at sa-compile ?
[18:02] <camako> to what?
[18:02] <theparadoxer02> or any other place ?
[18:02] <Bashing-om> camako: Sorry, I was not .. the OP left and you got highlighted :(
[18:03] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: yup in sa-compile
[18:03] <camako> no worries
[18:04] <chris32> Bashing-om, i'd like to ask you more questions but i'm worried it may sound commercial. may i pm you?
[18:04] <Bashing-om> chris32: Yeah .. go ahead with the PM .
[18:33] <caene> Which Firefox version on Ubuntu can use HTML5 player on Twitch? Because I'm trying out Firefox 51, and it's not working for me.
[18:34] <davidj> Anyone have thoughts on why 'esc' results in ubuntu systems returning from suspend better, whereas mouse clicks make it turn to crap?
[18:35] <davidj> (Whenever I use a mouse click, it almost seems as though lightdm/unity/whatever has to restart at least once)
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> hi
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> i need some help
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> i cant open a .deb file
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> it asks for the password
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> then never opens
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> please help
[18:46] <ducasse> davidj: are there any differences in dmesg when you resume with keypress vs mouse?
[18:46] <davidj> @ducasse Good idea! I'll try that the next time I see it.
[18:46] <ducasse> ljasdkdahsdhjas: it's probably trying to install it and waiting for your user password
[18:47] <davidj> ljasdkdahsdhjas: try using super-w to see if any windows popped up asking
[18:47] <davidj> I find it sometimes pops 'under' for me :/
[18:47] <ducasse> davidj: run 'dmesg -w', then suspend/resume and save the last output
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> whoops
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> internet crashed
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> sorry its not a deb
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> i already installed it
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> its just an app on my desktop
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> called vpnoneclick
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> i double click it
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> and it asks for password cuz it need admin privlages
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> so i put pass
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> then it never opens
[18:50] <ducasse> !enter | jgasgsghd
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> sorry
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> whats !enter
[18:51] <ducasse> jgasgsghd: just a trigger to make ubottu say that
[18:52] <jgasgsghd> so any fixes?
[18:55] <chris32> jgasgsghd, when you installed ubuntu you probably entered a password
[18:56] <k1l> jgasgsghd: use "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"
[18:57] <VileGent> k1l: it timed out
[18:57] <Kinu> Hi
[18:57] <Kinu> I need help
[18:58] <VileGent> Kinu: state your issue
[18:58] <Kinu> yesterday i installed lubuntu in my lappy and was able to use the bluetooth properly
[18:59] <VileGent> !lubuntu | Kinu
[18:59] <Kinu> but today when i tried to connect to my android phone my lappy was not detecting the devices
[18:59] <Kinu> Yes lubuntu
[19:00] <VileGent> and where did it tell you to go for support
[19:00] <Kinu> No it did  not tell me to goto any support
[19:00] <ducasse> !flavors | VileGent
[19:01] <VileGent> ducasse: sorry i had understood it the other way
[19:01] <Kinu> I though some one must have came across the same problem and must have fix the issue
[19:02] <Kinu> can some one help me out
[19:02] <Ro|3> Kinu: what's up?
[19:03] <Kinu> hi whats up
[19:03] <tgm4883> Kinu: people can only help you if they know the answer
[19:03] <Ro|3> I'm not "Mr. what's up" ;-)
[19:03] <Ro|3> I meant "how can I help you" :)
[19:03] <ducasse> !bluetooth | Kinu see if this helps
[19:03] <VileGent> Kinu:  is your bluetooth icon on, on your desktop and your laptop
[19:03] <Kinu> yes its there
[19:04] <Kinu> but when I try to make it visible to nearby devices it freezes
[19:05] <Kinu> yesterday it was working and today it started giving me the problem
[19:05] <ducasse> Kinu: does 'hcitool dev' return anything?
[19:06] <tgm4883> Kinu: what changed between yesterday and today?
[19:06] <k1l> Kinu: what does "rfkill list" show? please put to pastebin and link here
[19:06] <Kinu> it shows blank
[19:06] <Kinu> even with sudo
[19:06] <Ro|3> CU guys, have a great evening
[19:07] <Kinu> rfkill list
[19:07] <Kinu> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[19:07] <Kinu> 	Soft blocked: no
[19:07] <Kinu> 	Hard blocked: no
[19:07] <Kinu> 1: hci0: Bluetooth
[19:07] <Kinu> 	Soft blocked: no
[19:07] <Kinu> 	Hard blocked: no
[19:07] <ducasse> !pastebin | Kinu
[19:07] <k1l> Kinu: use paste.ubuntu.com and link it here
[19:08] <acresearch> people i need help, i have a USB stick that just stopped working, not appearing anywhere, what can i do? i do not need to recover any data just format it so i can use it properly
[19:08] <Kinu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079679/
[19:10] <ducasse> acresearch: 'lsblk' does not show it?
[19:11] <Kinu> can someone tell me where the problem lies
[19:12] <acresearch> ducasse: does not show
[19:12] <ducasse> acresearch: have you tried different ports?
[19:12] <acresearch> ducasse: yes
[19:12] <ducasse> acresearch: do other sticks work?
[19:13] <acresearch> ducasse: yes
[19:13] <acresearch> i have two of the same stick, one works, this one does not
[19:14] <ducasse> acresearch: remove the stick, open a terminal, run 'dmesg -w' and press enter to get a few blank lines. now insert the stick, any output?
[19:15] <acresearch> ducasse: no
[19:16] <ducasse> acresearch: then i would say it is dead.
[19:16] <acresearch> ducasse: how can it die? what did i do wrong? i use it for backup, so i barely used it less than 10 times, and always eject before taking it out. what did i do wrong?
[19:17] <acresearch> ducasse: when i hook it, a light comes out then goes away
[19:17] <jayjo> I run jupyterhub (a python data tool) on my machine each day. Can I set this up with ubuntu to run automatically when my machine runs, and to have a dedicated internal IP address so other machines can access on my network, or I can access if I VPN or ssh into the network? I will do the research to get this done, but what do I look for? Am I starting a daemon on launch? And restart on failures?
[19:17] <rodney77> hello, does anyone know how I can get my bluetooth keyboard to connect on boot? I'm running 14.04
[19:17] <ducasse> acresearch: don't think you necessarily did any wrong, some usb sticks simply can not take much and die quickly
[19:19] <A1Gard> hi dears
[19:19] <acresearch> ducasse: i have a lot of work data to back up, i try to keep double copies just for this issue, but it happens a lot, what can i do to save my backups???
[19:20] <ducasse> acresearch: the best place for backups is a disk imo, preferably a remote one if possible
[19:20] <acresearch> imo?
[19:20] <ducasse> acresearch: another option - several copies
[19:20] <ducasse> acresearch: in my opinion
[19:21] <acresearch> ducasse: i do keep several copies, but dam they still fail,,, my data is around 100GB so cloud backup is expensive,
[19:22] <ducasse> acresearch: you could look at a service like tarsnap or rsync.net
[19:23] <acresearch> ducasse: interesting, i did not know about them
[19:23] <ducasse> acresearch: iirc you can store terabytes there for a few dollars/month
[19:23] <Guest21150> hi i wanna to know how this work as i new to linux
[19:24] <ducasse> acresearch: never personally used them, but considering them myself
[19:25] <acresearch> thanks ducasse
[19:25] <ducasse> acresearch: np
[19:25] <johk> waddup pimps
[19:26] <johk> wadup
[19:28] <sebokie> hello
[19:28] <johk> sup
[19:28] <z1haze_work> where can i edit my $PATH ? i accidentally added something to it with export that i dont want in there
[19:28] <ducasse> z1haze_work: you added it in your shell or in a file?
[19:29] <z1haze_work> i just did export $PATH= ...
[19:29] <z1haze_work> i guess it was just the shell huh
[19:29] <sebokie> is it possible to reconstruct a RAID array if I lost the root filesystem where its configuration was stored?
[19:29] <ducasse> z1haze_work: so just do 'export PATH=whatever'
[19:29] <z1haze_work> i added something that i want to remove
[19:30] <z1haze_work> where is this actually stored
[19:30] <ducasse> z1haze_work: in the environment, so just set PATH to what it was before
[19:31] <z1haze_work> i dont know what it was before
[19:32] <ducasse> z1haze_work: 'echo $PATH', then just set it to what is left when you remove what you added
[19:32] <pavlos> z1haze_work, can you look at your previous commands and see what you modified PATH to? the default sits in .bashrc
[19:33] <z1haze_work> i li added something to $PATH i didnt replace it.
[19:33] <z1haze_work> i just want to remove a thing that was added
[19:34] <nacc> z1haze_work: just open a new terminal, then
[19:34] <z1haze_work> lol i didnt think this would be such a complex question.
[19:34] <z1haze_work> so is this not stored in a file somewhere?
[19:34] <nacc> z1haze_work: no
[19:34] <z1haze_work> its not persisted?
[19:34] <z1haze_work> ok thanks thats all i needed
[19:34] <nacc> z1haze_work: well, not if you didn't persist it
[19:35] <johk> waddup pimps
[19:35] <ostekake> Hello dear people! Any one know how I assign an IP-adresss to a iSCSI portal (only doing this to teach myself, this is NOT a production system)
[19:35] <nacc> ostekake: what do you mean specifically?
[19:35] <A1Gard> any one know about openvpn here?
[19:36] <ducasse> !ask | A1Gard
[19:36] <johk> can anybody see my messages :/
[19:36] <ducasse> johk: yes, we've seen you
[19:36] <johk> ugh
[19:36] <ostekake> nacc, I created a new portal using targetcli, then cd'ed into "portals" and wrote "create", but it creates it on a pre-defined IP adress. I want to set a costum
[19:37] <ostekake> nacc, https://hastebin.com/ferohosofe.hs <- the command I ran
[19:38] <nacc> ostekake: i mean, it can presuambly only use the IP of the server it's running on
[19:38] <Apachez> 2nd time I encountered an ubuntu installation where /etc/apt is missing
[19:38] <nacc> ostekake: i don't have targetcli installed, but i'd check `man targetcli` otehrwise
[19:38] <ostekake> nacc, yes I guess so, but I'm following a book I got at the library tellin me to put a specific IP there
[19:38] <Apachez> are there no easy way to restore the default structure and sources.list etc within /etc/apt ?
[19:38] <A1Gard> I cant connect openvpn server in Ubuntu but in windows is possible what is the reason ?
[19:38] <ostekake> I'll do that :)
[19:39] <nacc> ostekake: i've not used targetcli myself, i've used tgtadm/tgt-admin
[19:39] <nacc> ostekake: i'm guessing they are the same
[19:39] <nacc> ostekake: but either way, the portal definition is unrelated to what disks are defined (afaict)
[19:39] <nacc> ostekake: the portal is defined by the tgt server you are talking to
[19:41] <ostekake> hmm thanks, I'll look into it. reading the (very large) man now
[19:46] <pavlos> ostekake, seems the create command accepts an ip and port, ... /iscsi/iqn.20...
[19:46] <pavlos> 70c82fb
[19:46] <pavlos> portals/
[19:46] <pavlos> create <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:46] <pavlos> sorry
[19:46] <ostekake> yes it does pavlos, but it failed.
[19:47] <ostekake> pavlos, https://hastebin.com/hunavozade.pas
[19:47] <pavlos> ostekake, page 46, http://www.linux-iscsi.org/Doc/LIO%20Admin%20Manual.pdf
[19:47] <nacc> ostekake: right, is that an ip on your server?
[19:47] <nacc> ostekake: again, it can't make a portal appear on a route it can't find
[19:50] <ostekake> no it's not, but the task in the book says it HAS to be that IP-adress. I presume to teach me something, is it not possible?
[19:50] <ostekake> pavlos,
[19:50] <Dethfull> anyone using crond in androed?
[19:51] <ostekake> so I'll have to virtually create it inside of icsi or something?
[19:51] <nacc> ostekake: what? the book says it must be some specific IP address?
[19:51] <the_mx> Hi, I have msi gs40 6qe installed 16.10 updated. even installed prereleased updates but I can not use intel graphics it freeze on login. Thanks.
[19:51] <ostekake> yes nacc
[19:52] <ducasse> Dethfull: you mean android? if so, ask in #android...
[19:52] <nacc> ostekake: that doesn't really make sense. what book is this?
[19:52] <ostekake> it's in Norwegian "Linux systemadministrasjon, en introduksjon.". it's an intro book to learn linux sysadmin tasks
[19:53] <Dethfull> ducassen i am banned, because i disknow this word. is unix, i configured crond today, now i am using my tasker .
[19:53] <nacc> ostekake: does a previous chapter instruct you to create a local network?
[19:53] <Dethfull> ducasse i am banned, because i disknow this word. is unix, i configured crond today, now i am using my tasker .
[19:54] <ostekake> nacc, it's a later chapter it seems
[19:54] <ducasse> Dethfull: we don't support android here. you could try ##linux
[19:54] <nacc> ostekake: seems like an odd order
[19:54] <caene> Is there a noticable difference in performance while gaming, between proprietary and open source nvidia drivers? Thinking CSGO and normal games on Steam that are Linux native.
[19:54] <ostekake> maybe I should change book, but I'm 80% done with the task and really wanted to complete it
[19:55] <ducasse> ostekake: du kan også bruke #ubuntu-no for support på norsk :)
[19:55] <BlueLobster> butts
[19:55] <ostekake> got everything except the portal with correct ip up
[19:55] <ostekake> ducasse, sikkert flere som kan iscsi her tenkte jeg : )
[19:55] <Dethfull> ducasse , my crond is done. the freenode's #android, recused me banned me. i don't need them anymore.
[19:55] <backbox> hi guys
[19:56] <Dethfull> crond in androed is a mirror, identical than ubuntu. nothing changed.
[19:57] <nacc> ostekake: while the book might be useful, it helps in this case to think of what you're doing.  Unless that IP *means* something, it is nonsense for it to be the portal
[19:58] <ostekake> Fair enough, thanks for the help! I'll just say Ḯm done with the task, google showed me a new and better looking (and free!) book I can change too :)
[19:58] <ostekake> *to
[19:59] <nacc> ostekake: seems reasonable :)
[19:59] <johk> sup guys
[20:00] <ducasse> !ask | johk
[20:00] <ppedro> nubcakes
[20:05] <johk> can somebody help me my ubuntu crashes everytime when i run dis one command
[20:06] <johk> ?
[20:06] <raub> Have 16.04, installed the nvidia-367 package. I am now no longer able to setup both of my monitors as a single one. And xorg -configure tells me that "(EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:01:00.0: -19
[20:07] <genii> johk: If you copy the command you are running and the results of what happens when you run it, and put it into a pastebin, giving us the address of the pastebin, perhaps someone might look at it and give a suggestion
[20:07] <genii> !pastebin | johk
[20:10] <johk> ok so some body once told me to run this command http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080134/ to fix issue whit the networking protokol and its just making my pc lag like crazy shit
[20:10] <BlueLobster> goddammit
[20:10] <BlueLobster> BUTTS
[20:12] <ducasse> johk: that wouldn't fix any networking issue, and i strongly suspect you knew that...
[20:13] <zorin_> Hiii
[20:14] <zorin_> Anyone online ?
[20:14] <johk> yup
[20:14] <backbox> yes
[20:14] <stratocastornm> just got here
[20:14] <zorin_> Okay so I've been looking for a new distro
[20:14] <zorin_> Ive previously used Ubuntu but its just too ugly and buggy
[20:14] <genii> ducasse: Conceivably they didn't know it was a forkbomb, but I'm more inclined to suspect they're just trying to get someone in here to run it
[20:14] <zorin_> I dont particularly like unity
[20:15] <zorin_> So any recommendations ?
[20:15] <stratocastornm> xubuntu?
[20:15] <ioria> zorin_, gnome-shell
[20:15] <zorin_> I tried still too ugly.
[20:15] <zorin_> Currently Im using Zorin 12 Ultimate
[20:15] <stratocastornm> centOS?
[20:16] <k1l> zorin_: that taste polling better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:16] <zorin_> Im looking for a Ubuntu derivative
[20:16] <zorin_> an*
[20:17] <kusti85> don't go derivative, go straight debian
[20:17] <stratocastornm> I just got to say, set up dual boot last night ubuntu 16.04 windows 7, and man, its so easy compared to back in the day
[20:17] <xangua> ! Flavors | zorin_
[20:17] <k1l> zorin_: then choose mate, gnome-shell, kde, budgie, xfce,... its your choice. we cant help you on that on the technical side.
[20:18] <xangua> There's a new official Ubuntu flavor coming, don't remember the name
[20:18] <stratocastornm> On a more technical note, anyone here get folding at home running on ubuntu? I've got an odd python dependency problem
[20:18] <k1l> xangua: budgie is already a flavor
[20:18] <genii> xangua: Budgie maybe?
[20:18] <xangua> That is, yes
[20:19] <ducasse> k1l: not until 17.04, aiui
[20:19] <zorin_> Budgie doesnt a battery percentage indicator does it?
[20:19] <xangua> Budgie supports Ubuntu indicators
[20:20] <zorin_> I couldnt find the battery one
[20:20] <maja> quit
[20:23] <caimlas> hello, is there anyone here who might help me figure out what's breaking with systemd to, essentially, cause a VM system to be inoperable? I've got an up-to-date 16.04.2 VM. Several times today, I've "lost" resolvconf and the ability to connect; dmesg shows "systemd-journald[357]: Failed to create new runtime journal: No such file or directory" at/around the time of the issue occurring but I've not been able to find any logs as to what
[20:23] <caimlas> might actually be going on.
[20:26] <k1l> ducasse: you are right. it got granted flavor status but 17.04 is the first release iso.
[20:26] <ducasse> caimlas: you can enable persistent logging, look at this link, a bit down - http://askubuntu.com/questions/763638/no-more-boot-logging-since-16-04
[20:28] <Guest24425> Hey all! Does anybody have SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_ALERT and ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR in browsers for Linux Mint 18.1 x64 with latest updates?
[20:28] <arooni> is it bad practice to try to sudo su www-data ?  on ubuntu it looks like this results in an error because there is no login shell for www-data...
[20:28] <caimlas> ducasse, yeah, I was aware of that. Unfortunately, as you can see from the message I pasted, journald appears to be f*cking off. Any logs it might provide are unavailable...
[20:28] <ducasse> k1l: i vaguely recalled the announcement saying that :)
[20:28] <ducasse> !mint | Guest24425
[20:29] <akik_> arooni: you can tell su the shell to use with -s
[20:30] <ducasse> caimlas: my thinking was that if you enable persistent logging you might actually be able to read more info then you can now, as it will be stored on disk
[20:30] <ducasse> *than you can now
[20:31] <ducasse> caimlas: since now the logs are discarded when it dies...
[20:32] <caimlas> ducasse, yeah, perhaps. we'll see.
[20:32] <arooni> akik_: without giving it a login shell?
[20:33] <nacc> arooni: it's bad practice (afaict) to `sudo su` period
[20:33] <nacc> arooni: there are more correct ways to use flags to sudo
[20:34] <ducasse> caimlas: then when the system goes screwy, you can ask for the logs pertaining to resolvconf.service from the last hour, for example
[20:34] <Guest24425> Guys, is anybody have SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_ALERT and ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR errors in browsers with latest updates of Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:34] <Ben64> Guest24425: mint still  isn't supported here, don't try to be tricky
[20:34] <Guest24425> Chrome and Chroimum don't work. Firefox works, but sometimes it doesn't load resources due to the SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_ALERT error
[20:35] <Guest24425> Well, I don't trying. Looks like it is an error in libnss3
[20:36] <caimlas> ducasse, right, fair enough. I've somehow managed to avoid munging with systemd breakage all too much so far.
[20:36] <k1l> Guest24425: mint handles updates and security updates differently. so ask them.
[20:36] <Ben64> Guest24425: you're running mint. get support from the mint channel at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[20:37] <Guest24425> Thanks. Yes, I'm running mint and I've already contacted this channel
[20:37] <Guest24425> But looks like the error is not only in mint
[20:37] <Ben64> but _your_ error is in mint so it has no place here
[20:37] <Guest24425> Anyway, thanks for help
[20:38] <arooni> nacc: what should i be doing instead?
[20:38] <Guest24425> Ben64: the only reason I'm asking is because I want to know the error affects only me or someone else
[20:38] <ducasse> caimlas: you can also do 'journalctl -p 4 --since today' to see messages of priority 'warning' or higher. smaller number = higher priority. journalctl is actually very nice.
[20:38] <Ben64> Guest24425: either way that doesn't affect anything
[20:38] <nacc> arooni: what are you trying to do? i've often used `sudo -s -H`
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> i have encountered an issue while trying to upgrade to HWE stack, while on 14.04.5 x64 LTS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24070775/ then i did ' sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial_11.2.0-1ubuntu2~trusty1_amd64.deb ' successfully: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075194/ and then tried to do the HWE stack multiarch command again but this happend:
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075210/ ... so how do i go about fixing all this so i can get HWE?
[20:40] <deathSong> [ND],  A1Gard: Salam pori
[20:40] <deathSong> A1Gard: salam
[20:41] <arooni> nacc: edit some files within the web root directory that nginx is serving one of my sites from (wordpress).  i'm annoyed that as my ssh user i can't create/edit any files within this web root directory without sudo; and when i do; its not set to www-data so i have to do a sudo chown www-data:www-data -R each time i'm done
[20:41] <nacc> azizLIGHT: where did you get nvidia-358 from?
[20:41] <azizLIGHT> nacc: from semi official ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:41] <ubuntly> hi
[20:41] <Ben64> arooni: www-data doesn't need to own the files, it just needs to be able to read them
[20:42] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you might be best-served disabling nvidia during the update; but even so, 358 is now longer listed as current from that ppa
[20:42] <arooni> Ben64: nacc is there a way to guarantee every file i create with my ssh user gets group ownership of www-data ?
[20:43] <arooni> or do i have to basically run a sudo chown -R :www-data when i'm done
[20:43] <Ben64> arooni: unnecessary
[20:43] <Ben64> again, www-data only needs to be able to read the files
[20:43] <nacc> arooni: just change the permissions to be readable?
[20:43] <azizLIGHT> nacc: yes its now not listed in the ppa anymore, its old now (i had issues with newere ones so i resorted to using this old one)
[20:43] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i'm guessing that is an incompatible situtation -- using an old package with trying to run the latest package from the archives
[20:43] <Ben64> azizLIGHT: you gotta stop doing things manually
[20:44] <azizLIGHT> ?
[20:44] <Ben64> all of your problems are because you decided to do something weird
[20:44] <arooni> Ben64: nacc but i need to give it permisions somehow; and i dont want to give global +rx permissions to it; so shoudlnt i be oding it thru the group
[20:45] <Ben64> like hey i'm gonna remove xorg, or i'm gonna force install this package from hwe, and an outdated nvidia package from a ppa
[20:45] <Ben64> arooni: global read is fine
[20:45] <nacc> arooni: why does global read matter?
[20:45] <nacc> arooni: and you don't need to execute anything in php
[20:45] <nacc> arooni: it's an interpreted language
[20:45] <azizLIGHT> all im trying to do is have updated kernel and updated graphics
[20:45]  * nacc kind of feels if you don't understand that, then you shouldn't be running PHP code
[20:45] <azizLIGHT> i have to resort to ppa for that what can i do
[20:46] <Ben64> azizLIGHT: but you're not using the ppa
[20:47] <arooni> nacc: Ben64 ;; so nginx only needs read permissions ?
[20:47] <arooni> what about execute on the say upload directory
[20:47] <Ben64> every directory needs execute
[20:48] <nacc> but directories aren't being created/chagned, so that doesn't really matter here
[20:48] <azizLIGHT> nacc: so how should i go about disabling nvidia ?
[20:50] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i don't know, i would have suggested ppa-purge, since you're not technically using the ppa -- and then maybe re-adding it later
[20:51] <ducasse> azizLIGHT: right now, you should probably run 'apt-get -f install' to fix your dependencies, at least see what it wants to do
[21:01] <platzhirsch> I have a HP program running apparently, I have a small icon on the top bar and I don't know how to get rid of it
[21:01] <platzhirsch> any idea how to find out which process that is
[21:02] <k1l> platzhirsch: sounds like hplip? the printer driver?
[21:03] <mokka> Hello dear people! I'm doing a school assignment target towards teaching us linux/ubuntu. It wants me to create user accounts, and that is no problem. But it specifies to store their email address. I have no idea how to add the email adress to user accounts and google told me nothing, is there something easy I'm missing? :) (currently tried adduser and useradd)
[21:03] <platzhirsch> k1l: yes it is, but I uninstalled that
[21:05] <nacc> mokka: maybe look at `man chfn`
[21:05] <nacc> mokka: or `man usermod` and teh comment field
[21:05] <mokka> nacc, I already looked at it but it has no option for emailk
[21:06] <nacc> mokka: well, of course not, users don't need an e-mail address
[21:06] <mokka> hmm so I'll just need to make a new field
[21:06] <nacc> mokka: you can't, trivially, make a new field in, e.g., /etc/passwd
[21:06] <nacc> mokka: at least not without possibly breaking every program out there that assumes it can parse it as-is
[21:06] <ducasse> mokka: just use the 'other' field
[21:07] <nacc> ducasse: i was hoping they'd figure that out on their own :)
[21:07] <mokka> thanks
[21:07] <mokka> :)
[21:08] <ducasse> nacc: ;)
[21:10] <caene> What a joke. Netflix not working on Firefox natively?
[21:12] <jarlath> It works. But you need the right user agent. There's a soln. on askubuntu.
[21:12] <nacc> caene: you're blaming Ubuntu for a decision Netflix made?
[21:13] <caene> No?
[21:13] <nacc> caene: what is your support question, then?
[21:13] <nicomachus> caene: yea.. that's a DRM issue. Blame Netflix, not firefox or Ubuntu.
[21:15] <nicomachus> caene: AFAIK, if you want Netflix on Ubuntu you have to use Google Chrome.
[21:22] <caene> damn you guys are sensitive, never uttered a single word towards Ubuntu or Firefox.
[21:22] <caene> Angry little people will be angry little people, I guess. ;)
[21:23] <nicomachus> k bye
[21:23] <jarlath> ttp://askubuntu.com/questions/828286/now-that-i-have-firefox-49-or-higher-how-do-i-watch-netflix
[21:24] <jarlath> See the comment from Hi-Anger on user agent spoofing.
[21:25] <pavlos> ostekake, yes ...
[21:26] <pavlos> ostekake, was away for a couple of hours
[21:26] <BHSPiMonkey> Using Ubuntu 16.04 (standard flavor with Unity) and my screen never auto-locks, despite my "Brightness & Lock" settings having Lock "ON" and set to "Lock screen after: 1 minute"
[21:27] <BHSPiMonkey> What process/daemon is supposed to regulate screen auto-lock?
[21:30] <SemiNus> hi
[21:30] <SemiNus> I just experienced something weird.
[21:30] <smitty__> hello
[21:30] <SemiNus> my laptop (running Ubuntu 16.10) and my Tablet (Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.5) use the same internet connection
[21:31] <SemiNus> speedtest.net  tells me my laptop had a download speed on 1,5 - 3 Mbit  (I ran multiple tests)
[21:31] <SemiNus> and my tablet rocks it with 55 Mbit
[21:31] <SemiNus> what is going on?
[21:32] <chris32> SemiNus, maybe you don't have the best drivers
[21:32] <nicomachus> SemiNus: what type of wifi receiver does the laptop have?
[21:32] <nicomachus> if it's only 802.11b/g/n and the tablet is 802.11ac that could be the difference.
[21:32] <BHSPiMonkey> SemiNus: could be anything. The devices might not be using the same wifi spec (A/B/G/N/AC) or different bands (2.4GHz/5GHz)
[21:32] <SemiNus> nicomachus, I have no idea, there was one in the laptop already when I bought it
[21:33] <nicomachus> SemiNus: can you paste the output of 'sudo lshw -C network' to a pastebin and link here?
[21:33] <SemiNus> what steps do I need to undertake in order to find out more and check ti?
[21:33] <SemiNus> *it
[21:33] <SemiNus> nicomachus, ok! 1 moment pls!
[21:34] <SemiNus> nicomachus, https://dpaste.de/VKEh/raw
[21:34] <sk__> hi all, i got a configure: error: Missing required libcurl >= 7.15.2 but ii  libcurl3-gnutls:amd64
[21:35] <sk__> any ideas?
[21:35] <dannyLopez> Hi.
[21:35] <k1l> sk__: what ubuntu exactly?
[21:35] <llutz> sk__: you need the -dev package
[21:36] <nicomachus> SemiNus: ahhhhh... that pesky rtl8188 driver
[21:36] <ducasse> SemiNus: RTL8188EE - good luck with that :-/ that's a thoroughly bad chipset with an equally crap driver
[21:36] <sk__> k11 Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[21:37] <SemiNus> ;(
[21:37] <sk__> llutz, the -dev pack is installed: ii  libcurl4-openssl-dev:amd64
[21:37] <nicomachus> there's a fix for it... not sure if it works on 16.10 though
[21:37] <SemiNus> how can I find out what a good laptop is before I buy the next one?
[21:37] <SemiNus> I like toshiba sattelites
[21:38] <sk__> any good ideas for that?
[21:39] <k1l> sk__: can you show the complete errormessage on paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?
[21:39] <nacc> sk__: that -dev doesn't match the library you used earlier, fwiw; k1l's suggestion is a good one to help further
[21:39] <sk__> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080573/
[21:40] <nacc> sk__: you can look into the config.log (iirc) to see what exactly configure is runing to determine that
[21:40] <nacc> sk__: as it does find libcurl, but declares it unusable
[21:41] <sk__> nice tip
[21:42] <sk__> is seems something undefied on the function: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080580/
[21:42] <nacc> sk__: there should be more in the log after that
[21:42] <nacc> sk__: to be sure that's what it decides in 'no' :)
[21:42] <sk__> its endless he last line is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080580/
[21:42] <sk__> sorry
[21:42] <sk__> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[21:43] <sk__> this is the last line of the error log
[21:43] <nacc> sk__: yes, it's long, but need the whole thing
[21:43] <nacc> sk__: otherwise can't really help
[21:43] <sk__> give me a sec
[21:43] <sk__> i will paste it
[21:43] <nacc> pastebinit | sk__
[21:43] <k1l> sk__: "cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:44] <sk__> here it his the whole thing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080585/
[21:44] <dannyLopez> Anybody use Awesome WM?
[21:44] <SemiNus> nicomachus, will you give me any further advice, or did you leave me alone?
[21:45] <UUID00> is there a way to see the list of all installed iptables extensions?
[21:46] <sk__> nacc, k1l i really dont understand what's wrong, i thing to have not many skill for that.
[21:47] <nicomachus> SemiNus: I have the same driver on my laptop here. I picked up a wifi dongle from Panda that's just a USB and it works perfectly.
[21:47] <nacc> k1l: does it look like it's trying to use the static libcurl, but not requiring static pthread, etc?
[21:47] <nick321> hello guys. I am using official libreoffice ppa and got myself recently 5.3, but can't find notebook bar settings, can anyone confirm or confute?
[21:47] <nicomachus> SemiNus: and then I disabled the rtl8188 device
[21:47] <nacc> nick321: you should ask the PPA owner(s) probably?
[21:48] <nick321> it could be problem of my own, that's why I decided to ask here
[21:49] <sk__> nacc, im tring to compile the binary staticly
[21:49] <SemiNus> how can I disable my card?
[21:49] <pavlos> UUID00, iptables -L
[21:49] <k1l> sk__: libcurl4-gnutls-dev is installed?
[21:50] <nacc> sk__: is there a raeson it needs to be static?
[21:50] <sk__> i tried to install libcurl4-openssl-dev and even libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[21:50] <sk__> nacc, portability is the main reason
[21:50] <k1l> sk__: "tried"?
[21:50] <sk__> if you install libcurl4-gnutls-dev it uninstall ssl and viceversa
[21:51] <sk__> even with libcurl4-gnutls-dev the error is still Missing required libcurl >= 7.15.2
[21:51] <k1l> looks like cpuminer has a lot of issues with libcurl
[21:52] <sk__> seems so, i've read many things in that but i cant get handle this error understanding what he dont like... this is compiling option and not make.....
[21:52] <sk__> so the test should run correctly
[21:52] <illmatix> i'm stuck with a full /boot partition and usually we've just gone in and deleted the other images besides the first, previous and current ones. But this time i don't seem to have any of the linux-image files in this directory and apt just fails to do anything becuase of this
[21:53] <nacc> sk__: it needs to verify it can use libcurl statically and it can't
[21:53] <nacc> illmatix: ls /boot | pastebinit
[21:54] <nacc> illmatix: or c&p
[21:54] <sk__> nacc, you are suggesting me to leave the thing?
[21:55] <illmatix> @nacc http://pastebin.com/Ck1iQhG9
[21:55] <nacc> sk__: i don't know what you mean? i'm saying that you might not be able to build it statically
[21:55] <sk__> yes i mean that, thankyou! :)
[21:56] <nacc> illmatix: not sure what you mean? all those files come from linux-image* packages
[21:56] <nacc> illmatix: have you run `apt-get autoremove`?
[21:56] <illmatix> nacc hrm.. yeah i've tried that too but it fails from the looks of it
[21:56] <illmatix> @nacc http://pastebin.com/K6Lni3DT
[21:57] <illmatix> -f install also fails to do anything
[21:57] <nacc> illmatix: looks like you've messed up some packages
[21:57] <nacc> illmatix: manually, that is
[21:58] <illmatix> oh fun
[21:58] <nacc> illmatix: so you can probably remove linux-image-3.13.0-109-generic
[21:59] <nacc> illmatix: but i mean, there are other ways to fix it
[21:59] <nacc> illmatix: but let's start from the oldest
[21:59] <illmatix> do you have any resources for other ways to fix it?
[22:00] <k1l> illmatix: please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" a "uname -a" and a "ls -al /boot" in a pastebin
[22:00] <nacc> illmatix: do *not* reboot until we're fixed up, but `apt-get remove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-1{09,10}-generic; apt-get autoremove`
[22:00] <Bashing-om> nacc: illmatix :: " z-3.8.0-29-generic " before autoremove . so that it does not know how to deal with removing packages ??
[22:01] <nacc> Bashing-om: i think apt-get is stuck regardless of autreomve
[22:01] <nacc> Bashing-om: because of the broken pakages
[22:04] <illmatix> http://pastebin.com/KFhskEVt  Linux chad.dev 3.13.0-107-generic #154-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 20 09:57:27 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and http://pastebin.com/Ck1iQhG9
[22:04] <illmatix> pretty sure the machine has been rebooted 6 days ago
[22:06] <illmatix> @nacc that command didn't seem to do anything. Still says apt-get -f install to correct these
[22:06] <nacc> illmatix: can you patsebin the output of the command?
[22:07] <illmatix> @nacc http://pastebin.com/WwVvQK2w
[22:07] <k1l> illmatix: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-109-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-110-generic linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-100-generic"
[22:07] <Bashing-om> nacc: " iU  linux-image-generic-lts-raring  " no longer any support .. and now manually intervene to fix the package manager ??
[22:07] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah i think that's what k1l is suggesting
[22:08] <nacc> k1l: depending on the result, you might have to temporarily remove the meta-pacckage (linux-image-generic) adn then reinstall it
[22:09] <k1l> illmatix: and do run "sudo dpkg -r  linux-generic-lts-raring"
[22:09] <illmatix> k1l I got "dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-generic-lts-raring which isn't installed"
[22:10] <nacc> linux-image-generic-lts-raring
[22:10] <nacc> illmatix: -^
[22:10] <illmatix> ahh
[22:10] <k1l> illmatix: on what command did you get that?
[22:11] <k1l> i guessed you have the lts raring metapackage installed.
[22:14] <illmatix> damn, those commands still seem to fail. But i have to go help someone with something. I'll be back in a bit.
[22:15] <FoeHammered> How does one go about mounting or syncing (or whatever) a Dropbox or Google Drive folder so that a program here can use it?
[22:17] <k1l> !info nautilus-dropbox
[22:17] <k1l> FoeHammered: use this for integration into ubuntu
[22:19] <FoeHammered> Does it matter that I'm using Lubuntu, and nautilus isn't my folder manager thingy?
[22:19] <crendel> FoeHammered: what file manager are you using?
[22:19] <FoeHammered> PCManFM
[22:20] <crendel> FoeHammered: you can use gvfs-google to provide google drive integration. i believe gvfs plays well with pcmanfm
[22:20] <FoeHammered> Okay. Weirder question. How do I tell Google Drive I want to do that?
[22:21] <nacc> FoeHammered: you don't afaict, you'll set up a gvfs mount locally
[22:21] <FoeHammered> Wow. Weird.
[22:21] <nutzz> Is there any standard class for generating permutations?
[22:21] <crendel> FoeHammered: i've not used the gvfs-google package myself, but when you're authenticating with it, it should walk you through authentication
[22:21] <FoeHammered> Very neat.
[22:21] <nacc> nutzz: do you mean to ask in a programming channel?
[22:22] <crendel> FoeHammered: I use the drive package which is cli only and I had to add an api key
[22:22] <crendel> but it's quite straightforward
[22:22] <crendel> probably even moreso with gvfs :)
[22:22] <nutzz> nacc, sorry I thought I am in the java channel
[22:22] <nacc> nutzz: np :)
[22:23] <FoeHammered> Hrng. How do I use gvfs-google? I don't see any packages with that name in Synaptic, and apparently it's not already on my box, though a lot of other gvfs is.
[22:24] <noraatepernos> Can I format an ext4 partition to support ~2 billion inodes without it being a 2TB drive?  I believe the lowest byte ratio is 1024 bytes.  I know ext4 supports over 4 billion inodes.  I’m trying to get something that will allow resize2fs on digital ocean’s ssd block storage.
[22:24] <noraatepernos> Also considering just using btrfs
[22:25] <k1l> noraatepernos: you can set the inodes on creation of the partitions
[22:25] <crendel> FoeHammered: i think it's "gnome-online-accounts" on synaptic...
[22:25] <FoeHammered> Of course.
[22:25] <crendel> FoeHammered: you might need gnome-control-center for graphical configuration if that isn't already installed
[22:25] <FoeHammered> Hrm. I'm looking at gnome-online-accounts and not seeing gvfs-google.
[22:26] <crendel> FoeHammered: i believe it's contained in gnome-online-accounts :)
[22:27] <crendel> FoeHammered: apologies, i run arch now and am not totally familiar with the ubuntu repos anymore
[22:27] <FoeHammered> Understandable.
[22:27] <FoeHammered> How do I search for it?
[22:28] <FoeHammered> Oh my, seems like everybody's using Arch nowadays, judging from where I'm finding reference to this.
[22:28] <crendel> FoeHammered: follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/use-gnome-318-google-drive-integration.html
[22:28] <FoeHammered> Thanks!
[22:28] <crendel> FoeHammered: arch is pretty great :) and the wiki is an amazing resource even for users of other distros
[22:28] <Epx998> Getting "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[22:28] <Epx998> " on a fresh 14 and fresh 16 install - what causes this error?
[22:29] <crendel> FoeHammered: gotta be willing to destroy your life a few times though
[22:29] <FoeHammered> Damn. That's oldskool Linux style, right?
[22:30] <FoeHammered> Where you just get used to occasionally ****ing up and destroying everything, then start again?
[22:30] <crendel> 4sho
[22:31] <FoeHammered> Well, if I wanted to become a real proper Linux user, I'd definitely know where to begin, then.
[22:31] <FoeHammered> As is, I settled on Ubuntu because I grew up on Windows but had to make a change for the sake of assembling 64 bit systems. It hadn't yet become necessary or relevant, but I saw the writing on the wall, and didn't want to have to learn from scratch under pressure.
[22:32] <FoeHammered> Eventually moved to lubuntu because it seems to be as comfy as Ubuntu, not as confining as using Gnome, and at the time I started it still fit on a CD.
[22:32] <nacc> FoeHammered: ok, you've veered offtopic :)
[22:32] <FoeHammered> True.
[22:33] <k1l> FoeHammered: the focus from Lubuntu is old and slow hardware. so you miss a lot of services. like you saw now with dropbox and nautilus integration
[22:33] <FoeHammered> Yep. I like to think of it as a nice blank slate upon which I can build as I please.
[22:33] <FoeHammered> Apply my own bloat as I go. I even learn a few things!
[22:34] <k1l> have fun
[22:34] <FoeHammered> So far so good.
[22:34] <crendel> FoeHammered: admirable :)
[22:35] <FoeHammered> I figured, if it got to be too much for me, I could always go back to xubuntu or Ubuntu.
[22:36] <crendel> i think with linux, pushing yourself further and further past the comfort zone pays off in the long run as long as you have a good therapist.
[22:36] <crendel> :)
[22:36] <FoeHammered> What I really should do, though, is force myself to rely more on the command line for a while.
[22:37] <Epx998> Anyone familiar with ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer on a fresh install?
[22:37] <FoeHammered> Weird. gnome-control-center says it can't find gnome-online-accounts, but gnome-online-accounts seems to be installed.
[22:39] <nacc> Epx998: use `ssh -vvv` and see if maybe your key is being rejected?
[22:39] <crendel> Epx998: try verbose? -vvv
[22:39] <FoeHammered> In fact, all I've got is Language Support, Printers and Software & Updates.
[22:39] <Epx998> ill try
[22:40] <FoeHammered> Well, I opened it by other means, so whatever.
[22:40] <crendel> FoeHammered: oh, so you can add the google account now?
[22:41] <Aurorasaura> Would there be anyone here able to point me in the right direction? I have Ubuntu Server (no GUI) and have multiple hard disks I want to add. How would I go about making one big volume? (Like Windows "extended volume"?
[22:41] <FoeHammered> Seems so, except that for some reason I apparently don't accurately remember my password.
[22:41] <k1l> !lvm | Aurorasaura
[22:42] <k1l> Aurorasaura: or use zfs
[22:43] <Aurorasaura> I have tried that k1l but have a hard time finding a tutorial
[22:43]  * FoeHammered frowns, apparently learning things.
[22:44] <azizLIGHT> nacc: if i do sudo apt-get -f install, this is what it wants tme to do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080870/
[22:45] <k1l> Aurorasaura: details matter. "i tried to repair a car and its broken"
[22:45] <azizLIGHT> this is in reference to failed HWE upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075210/
[22:48] <FoeHammered> WOW! This is awesome.
[22:49] <FoeHammered> Okay, how do I symlink to my google-drive folder elsewhere so that I can use it as a place to put save games for a network game?
[22:52] <k1l> Aurorasaura: i suggest using zffs with a raidz1 or raidz2 (depends on the amount of hdds). ubuntu got native zfs support for data partitions now
[22:53] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS
[22:53] <Aurorasaura> thank you k1l
[22:55] <FoeHammered> gnome-online-accounts doesn't seem to have Dropbox as an option as it stands. Is there a fix for that?
[22:57] <k1l> dropbox doesnt work witht hat
[22:57] <FoeHammered> Aw.
[22:57] <FoeHammered> Well, Google should do, I guess.
[22:57] <crendel> FoeHammered: it doesn't work with gvfs, but some FMs have dropbox addons
[22:57] <crendel> FoeHammered: i know thunar does... not sure about pcmanfm
[22:57] <FoeHammered> Hrm. So I should consider looking up whether PCManFM has a Dropbox addon.
[22:58] <binary01> hi all, i am interested in upgrading to a new computer. Will it work to transfer my physical SSD to my new computer without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[22:58] <FoeHammered> Well, Thunar's was easy to find, that's for sure.
[23:00] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i would first get to a fully clean apt and then add the hwe
[23:01] <Xyphoid77> Does anybody know how to change the font color of the window borders? I am using Compiz with the gtk-window-decorator. I tried changing color in Appearance, dconf-editor, gtk-color-chooser and gnome-tweak-tool, but non of them can change the window title font color
 I am also using Windos-10-dark window border.
[23:02] <FoeHammered> Weird. I'm getting very inconsistent notions of whether mimeopen is installed. I'm'a restart.
[23:02] <azizLIGHT> nacc: and how do i do get a full clean apt
[23:03] <nacc> azizLIGHT: as you are doing now `apt-get -f install` etc
[23:06] <azizLIGHT> nacc: this is what it says for that command. should i press Y http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080870/
[23:06] <FoeHammered> Okay, at least now it's being consistent in not finding mimeinfo at all.
[23:07] <nacc> azizLIGHT: yes, i think so
[23:10] <FoeHammered> Son of a submariner, I have no gorram reading comprehension. Problem solved.
[23:10] <crendel> haha
[23:10] <crendel> happens :)
[23:11] <FoeHammered> Step 4: Open Dropbox from the system tray. It should now open in PCManFM. ... From what?
[23:11] <FoeHammered> How do I do that?
[23:11] <k1l> click on the icon in the panel?
[23:12] <FoeHammered> I don't see one.
[23:15] <azizLIGHT> nacc: hows this look now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24081112/
[23:15] <nacc> azizLIGHT: and if you run -f instll again, it says nothing to do?
[23:16] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you at this point must either run the most current nvidia driver (update to the latest using the PPA explicitly), or remove it altogether (ppa-purge)
[23:16] <azizLIGHT> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24081127/
[23:16] <azizLIGHT> i can do latest i suppose
[23:17] <azizLIGHT> i wanna keep 358 around in case something goes wrong though
[23:17] <azizLIGHT> will i still be able to downgrade to nvidia-358 if something goes wrong?
[23:17] <nacc> azizLIGHT: I don't think you can realistically maintain binary out of tree drivers (actually do they use dkms, I have no idea) and the hwe kernel, but i have no idea
[23:17] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you may want to ask someone more familiar with nvidia here before proceeding too much further
[23:18] <FoeHammered> Hrm. How do I interact with google-drive from the command line?
[23:18] <azizLIGHT> nacc: so id have to use noveau and 4.4?
[23:18] <FoeHammered> Since I can't seem to figure out how to make a symlink.
[23:18] <crendel> FoeHammered: did you get the dropbox icon working?
[23:18] <FoeHammered> Nope.
[23:18] <crendel> you might need to run it manually first from cli
[23:18] <crendel> `dropbox &'
[23:18] <FoeHammered> Oh.
[23:19] <FoeHammered> Annoyingly, it's suggesting nautilus-dropbox
[23:19] <crendel> you'll need to add it to your startp applications (should have an option in preferences to do it automatically)
[23:19] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i genuinely don't know -- i would suggest that using nouveau (which is in the 4.4 kernel aiui) and getting the hwe booted kernel first, is more relevant than a binary driver; but i have no idea what your use case is
[23:19] <crendel> hmm... if it didn't install dropbox as a dependency, you might need to install the dropbox package as well?
[23:20] <crendel> as far as google drive from command line, you could use the `drive` package, but i don't think that will play well with gvfs-google if you get it working
[23:20] <FoeHammered> Tempting to switch to Thunar just for this.
[23:20] <azizLIGHT> nacc: lets say i go to latest nvidia driver, then i run the hwe command?
[23:20] <FoeHammered> I seem to have gvfs-google working, yeah.
[23:20] <azizLIGHT> whats the next step
[23:20] <nacc> azizLIGHT: what do you mean? those are two steps
[23:21] <crendel> FoeHammered: give thunar a go! it's nice and similarly lightweight
[23:21] <azizLIGHT> i meant what are the steps. 1) go nvidia latest or ppa-purge and use nouveau 2) do hwe upgrade command. is that right?
[23:21] <FoeHammered> Is there anything I should know about how to go about that?
[23:21] <FoeHammered> 'Cause PCManFM might be a little too light for my tastes. I've struggled a bit with it.
[23:22] <crendel> FoeHammered: i think you can just grab it off synaptic and make it your default
[23:22] <crendel> FoeHammered: pretty straightforward. it also uses gvfs, so you should be able to use what you've done for drive already
[23:22] <crendel> FoeHammered: then I think there's a thunar-dropbox package out there
[23:23] <nacc> azizLIGHT: again, I am not an expert, i've not done it, but it does feel like you need to decide on 1) and do it, then do 2)
[23:23] <azizLIGHT> hmmm okay
[23:24] <FoeHammered> There is, in fact, a thunar-dropbox package.
[23:24] <crendel> FoeHammered: whoo!
[23:24] <FoeHammered> Yeah, it's one of the reasons I was quick to say "maaaaaybe Thunar is the ticket."
[23:25] <crendel> well, "FoeHammered", "hammer", mjölnir, Thor, "Thunar"
[23:25] <crendel> seems like a natural connection :)
[23:25]  * FoeHammered laughs.
[23:25] <FoeHammered> That said, FoeHammer is Glamdring, which is Tolkien, which is different.
[23:26] <crendel> hot damn
[23:26] <FoeHammered> Yeah, I use Glamdring primarily from my phone.
[23:26] <crendel> get out of this channel and into my life
[23:26]  * FoeHammered laughs.
[23:26] <FoeHammered> o/~ and into my car o/~
[23:27] <crendel> haha
[23:27] <zleap> hi does ubuntu one still exist
[23:34] <Aurorasaura> can multiple drives have the same mount point?
[23:35] <Zambzz> anyone help me please, tried switching to unity8 in 16.10 but now im stuck in a black screen, tried using startx but shows me no interface options, tried restarting lightdm but nothing, what doni need to type to revert bk to unity 7?
[23:37] <Epx998> hmm what the heck -> ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[23:37] <Epx998>  dont understand why this is happening all of a sudden on new installs
[23:37] <crendel> Epx998: did you do ssh -vvv?
[23:38] <crendel> Zambzz: does the blank screen happen before or after logging in with lighdm?
[23:38] <Zambzz> i have no login screen but then i think i put it to log me in automaticly
[23:39] <uRock> Installing ubuntu server and at the screen to select services, am I correct in thinking "virtual machine host" means being set for VMs to run within it?
[23:39] <Epx998> crendel: yeah -> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d5bacbe23a0fb9e71ef1733c1e68f8ac
[23:40] <crendel> Zambzz: what's in ~/.dmrc?
[23:41] <compdoc> uRock, yeah, using kvm
[23:41] <compdoc> qemu-kvm
[23:42] <uRock> compdoc, thanks
[23:42] <compdoc> and virsh
[23:42] <nacc> Epx998: did you look at the -vvv output as suggested earlier?
[23:43] <Epx998> naac: I did, if there is an obvious error in the gist i pasted, I am not seeing it.  never had this happen before.
[23:43] <nacc> Epx998: sorry, didn't see the gist earlier?
[23:43] <Zambzz> crendel, it says Session=unity8
[23:43] <Epx998> nacc: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d5bacbe23a0fb9e71ef1733c1e68f8ac
[23:43] <nacc> Epx998: i take it you're on a raspbian?
[23:44] <Epx998> maybe some firewall is happening
[23:44] <crendel> Zambzz: hm, if unity7 is still installed, try replacing it with unity7
[23:44] <crendel> Zambzz: if i were you I'd try to figure out why unity8 is hanging though. try checking the lightdm logs and ~/.xsession-errors
[23:45] <zleap> i think you disable the firewall by using sudo service ufw stop (but don't quote me on that
[23:45] <nacc> Epx998: i'm not sure, but i don't think that's ubuntu -- and it's hard to tell but i'd guess maybe a key mismatch?
[23:45] <Epx998> nacc: yes, but i've tried from different servers
[23:45] <zleap> if ytou disable the firewall and it works you know the firewall was possibly causing the issue
[23:46] <Epx998> nacc: I tried from a server thats never connected. hmm.
[23:46] <Bashing-om> Zambzz: A thought; at the login box session dropdowm, can you not choose unity7 ?
[23:46] <crendel> Epx998: are you trying to connect with identity files? what's the command you're issuing
[23:47] <Zambzz> Crendel, errors just keep repeating "unity8-dash main process (2968) killed by ABRT Signal
[23:47] <Epx998> nacc: no identify files are benig specified
[23:48] <nacc> Epx998: does the server indicate anything in its logs?
[23:48] <Zambzz> could it be my vpn client interfering as launches the pass window as sooon as i startup?
[23:50] <Zambzz> its not the best coded vpn client,msecure and works but could be better
[23:50] <Epx998> nacc: nothing that I can see, checking to see if something pops up
[23:51] <crendel> Zambzz: possibly... does that prompt actually pop up?
[23:52] <Zambzz> only when i type startx, overwise i can see anything due to black screen
[23:52] <Zambzz> cant*
[23:53] <azizLIGHT> when i do  ' dpkg -l | grep xedgers ' i see a bunch of packages with rc in the front: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24081254/ . if i dont want any xedgers stuff lingering on my system, what should i do? it seems like some of it is installed even though it says rc? heres apt-cache policy of those packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24081262/
[23:53] <Zambzz> btw changing the ~/.dmrc to unity 7 did nothing
[23:55] <nacc> !ppa-purge | azizLIGHT
[23:55] <azizLIGHT> nacc: i already have run ppa-purge on xorg-edgers
[23:56] <crendel> Zambzz: hm. you could try reinstalling lightdm and unity8 from apt-get
[23:56] <azizLIGHT> this is packages that have ubuntu repo versions but configs or something from xorg-edgers ppa lingering? im noit sure
[23:56] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you have other ppas than xorg-edgers
[23:56] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: While there is no built in way to remove all of your configuration information from your removed packages you can remove all configuration data from every removed package. To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, where The state is rc, the package is removed, but the config files are not removed.... - dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge - .
[23:56] <crendel> Zambzz: and removing ~/.cache might help (possibly try that before)
[23:56] <Epx998> nacc: I wonder if my preseed is wrong all of a sdden
[23:56] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: ma man
[23:57] <Epx998> nacc: its my dhcp server
[23:57] <nacc> Epx998: hrm
[23:58] <Epx998> nacc: I am testing dnsmasq/tftp for 14 and 16, new setup - when i disable dnsmsaq and reable the legacy dhcp, it works
[23:58] <Zambzz> whats then command to reinstall, im still beginnger when it comes to this stuff
[23:58] <Epx998> workmate wanted me to try a new dnsmasq.conf he wrote - day he left, that bastard.
[23:59] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: that did the trick. thanks


[20:41] <MAbeeTT> Hi! I would like to suggest epubs formats for output docs.
[20:42] <MAbeeTT> But first I'm commenting here, maybe there are some reasons for don't using it.
[20:42] <MAbeeTT> I see there is html and pdf formats for server guide doc.
[21:21] <MAbeeTT> https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1175350 done
[21:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1175350 in Ubuntu Server Guide "epub (or opensource ebook format needed)" [Undecided,New]
[21:27] <bkerensa> MAbeeTT: html is the open source version but I will suggest the epub bug to the server guide folks
[21:29] <MAbeeTT> I'm seeing .. #1157023
[21:32] <MAbeeTT> I can't mark as duplicated :(