[03:51] <ellis> rabbil: same problem happened to me! Unfortunately I don't know the solution though, except to use Unity 2D for the time being
[03:51] <maulana> hai.....
[03:51] <OerHeks> !language | Stingray88
[03:51] <maulana> any body at this chanel, am need to know did ubuntu have recovery all configruation to default !!!!
[03:52] <rabbi1> ellis: was not using unity, was on gnome
[03:52] <Stingray88> It's pretty hard to keep it family friendly when ubuntu makes no sense what so ever
[03:52] <Philpass> anyone know how to resolve it ?
[03:52] <almoxarife> Stingray88: gadmin-samba ?????? is that what you had before?
[03:52] <Stingray88> almoxarife: server-config-samba
[03:52] <almoxarife> Stingray88: no such animal
[03:52] <Stingray88> yes there is
[03:53] <Stingray88> google it
[03:53] <bobbert> marconius: you would be best to back up data to external drive and re-install. upgrades do not fix problems. you're not alone, i am glad ubuntu comes out every six months because that's how long it takes me to wreck my install. is re-install possible for you?
[03:53] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I literally just installed server-config-samba like 15 minutes ago
[03:53] <ellis> soreau: glxinfo says - "OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series'
[03:53] <soreau> maulana: When you install ubuntu, everything is default
[03:53] <ellis> soreau: Seems in order, it's a ATI 5770.
[03:53] <douggle> is alsa and/or jack the only alternative to pulseaudio?
[03:53] <Philpass> the internet connection for my ubuntu 11 was fine until yesterday i type this to my terminal dskp - ppp..............and edit the pppconfig
[03:53] <soreau> ellis: So you have fglrx installed..
[03:54] <marconius> bobbert: yes, but I wanted to avoid it. I reinstalled already once two weeks ago. This is getting silly now. Should I just install 10.04 LTS to be sure that I have a more stable experience?
[03:54] <glitch-mod> Just upgraded my laptop at first the sound worked not it doesn't detect my sound card, please help.
[03:54] <almoxarife> Stingray88: the package is 'samba'
[03:55] <maulana> soreau, am have configuration anything but right know am have so many error on my ubuntu, and am need it back to default, couse right know am used ubuntu clasic that no good for me am love ubuntu nuty
[03:55] <Stingray88> almoxarife: no this is another package, I was saying the wrong thing
[03:55] <godzuki> Didn't X-Chat used to come as part of Ubuntu? Any reason it got pulled? I know it's old
[03:55] <Stingray88> almoxarife: system-config-samba
[03:55] <Stingray88> almoxarife: that is what I meant
[03:55] <ellis> soreau: Yes. The virtual-size-error I referred to was given by the 'Displays' menu with System Settings, both before and after I installed fglrx
[03:55] <soreau> maulana: Try reinstalling
[03:55] <soreau> ellis: Does it work with the default radeon driver?
[03:55] <maulana> soreau, that will make my data lost
[03:56] <almoxarife> Stingray88: that does exist
[03:56] <maulana> soreau, and what you mean reinstalling ?
[03:56] <rabbi1> hey, got it, just run compiz and from preference reset to default and then restart, but got to set on themes from scratch
[03:56] <ellis> soreau: It didn't when I first installed, that's why I resorted to Additional Drivers
[03:56] <soreau> maulana: Back it up from a live sesion first
[03:56] <Stingray88> almoxarife: exactly… and I used that to setup my samba shares a week ago on the same EXACT version of ubuntu
[03:56] <soreau> ellis: That seems strange..
[03:56] <Stingray88> almoxarife: now this week on the same software… it's not working
[03:56] <soreau> ellis: Maybe you can try asking in #radeon after removing fglrx
[03:57] <glitch-mod> It is being reported when I check 'lspci'
[03:57] <glitch-mod> Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[03:57] <maulana> sorry am soreau am not have ubuntu cd or iso of ubuntu, and my internet conection so slowly, am need reconfigrution that will the best choise
[03:57] <bobbert> marconius: not any more stable in my experience, pick an edition you like and don't monkey with system packages is the ticket. if it's a work machine put 10.04 on and keep that until it is out of support. my 11.04 has lasted a while. do you experiment with the system and packages?
[03:57] <glitch-mod> but no sound :(
[03:57] <maulana> or thebest ide for me soreau
[03:57] <ellis> soreau: That's what made me think it was a problem with 11.10, especially since rdk seemed to be having the exact problem. I think for the time being I will revert to 11.04 and see how things go. I appreciate your help, thanks
[03:57] <joshua__> Okay, I have a new question. When I ran the command to see if my system is capable of running Unity, this is the output.  Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/jgNWjkDT
[03:58] <soreau> maulana: Why did you break it?
[03:58] <romeo_> Stingray88: I see it in my package manager. I assume you've refreshed by clicking 'reload' or apt-get update?
[03:58] <soreau> ellis: rdk said it worked with the radeon driver.. he just had cursor corruption
[03:58] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I just purged it an reinstalled it
[03:59] <maulana> soreau, break what that mean
[03:59] <Stingray88> romeo: I just purged it and reinstalled
[03:59] <soreau> ellis: Typically open drivesr JustWork. Proprietary drivers often require configuration, especially in xorg.conf
[03:59] <Stingray88> romeo: but it doesn't matter… I've installed samba exactly as I did one week ago and it's not working at all
[03:59] <rabbi1> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-reset-gnome-panels-compiz.html
[03:59] <soreau> ellis: You may just need to add some mode lines, for example
[04:00] <ellis> soreau: Oh ok, well I will give it another shot later on, thanks again. For now, it's 5am and I have lectures at 9... Computers kill my sleeping pattern :)
[04:00] <spikebike> hrm, usb-creator-gtk seems to install a bootloader that assumes graphics.  Unfortunately ubuntu-server ISOs don't have graphics enabled.  Anyone know of a workaround to get ubuntu-server installable from an usb thumb drive?
[04:00] <soreau> ellis: You can try configuring it with xrandr though since fglrx supposedly supports it wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[04:01] <almoxarife> Stingray88: quite a while back I went thru the samba server install and config to just share folders with another machine, I never got the confs right, I found a link that told me to use the method I suggested, and my problems were solved, btw, the link insisted on everything that was samba had to go prior to the fix, I didn't do it as it stipulated and was still in the same situation you are in, my point is this, once I followed t
[04:01] <marconius> bobbert: I may experiment a little, but I don't know if what I installed are considered system packages: HPLIP, python image library, virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper ... that's about it... well apart from the python packages installed with pip adn easy-install into the virtualenvs. Nothing crazy.
[04:02] <ellis> soreau: that's given me some light bedtime reading :) Bye
[04:02] <arghx> spikebike: unetbootin
[04:02] <hase> hello, I am wondering if it is possible to share internet from my laptop which has wifi to my pc that does not through ethernet
[04:02] <iron> Guys, anyone can help me with this problem: "installing fglrx (post-release updates) fails" ?
[04:03] <arghx> !nat | hase
[04:03] <spikebike> arghx: ah, yeah guess I could do a netboot based install
[04:03] <bobbert> marconius: sometimes ubuntu just slips. i dont know why, but i find i have to re-install about every six months :(
[04:03] <intangir> is there a way to still get a window bar? i really miss the window/task bar thing?
[04:03] <Stingray88> almoxarife: Just one week ago… one week ago. Using the exact same software… I did sudo apt-get install samba, then sudo apt-get install system-config-samba… then I added the folders I wanted shared in that gui… and bam, it just worked. How does this all the sudden not work one week later?
[04:03] <hase> !nat
[04:03] <glitch-mod> How can I troubleshoot a sound issue?
[04:03] <spikebike> arghx: heh, ah, nevermind it's actually a project
[04:04] <marconius> bobbert: do you have a seperate home partition?
[04:04] <hase> uboto doesn't know anything about nat
[04:04] <arghx> hase: NAT/ip masquerading is what you want
[04:04] <Iron> Guys, anyone can help me with this problem: "installing fglrx (post-release updates) fails" ?
[04:04] <rnigam> hi I have a bunch of host os's and their guests all running on ubuntu 10.10 . I am primarily using open source Xen Hypervisor. I have been wondering if I should upgrade them all to 11.10 . Just wanted to check if there are any obvious hurdles or major changes that I might have to worry about.
[04:04] <Stingray88> almoxarife: this is pointless… I'm about ready to completely reinstall ubuntu and try again
[04:04] <Stingray88> almoxarife: even thought I just installed it a couple hours ago
[04:04] <avsu> glitch-mod: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[04:04] <dajhorn> Iron: Try to install it at a terminal prompt and pastebin the entire build transcript.  Also, don't repeat your question that quickly.
[04:05] <arghx> Iron: there is an error before that. and: how do you install drivers? with a file from amd.com?
[04:05] <glitch-mod> avsu, Thank you
[04:05] <Stingray88> This just makes no sense what so ever
[04:05] <nosbig> Stingray88: Was there an update to samba in the last week?  Was the configuration file changed?  Have you looked at the samba configuration files to ensure they show what you expect?
[04:05] <almoxarife> Stingray88: for the love of the saints, start synaptic from a terminal with 'gksu synaptic'
[04:06] <Iron> dajhorn, arghx : Sorry guys, I will pastebin the log file. Gimme a second...
[04:06] <joe040288> hi i just install 11.10 and the propritary drivers for nvidia but i cant seem to get compiz working
[04:06] <bobbert> marconius: no, on same partition as OS. would probably be a good idea though, now i think of it. once i did something to ubuntu and you went power button > shutdown and nothing happened. that was annoying.
[04:06] <arghx> Stingray88: what is your actual error message?
[04:07] <home> so ubuntu
[04:07] <hase> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/16 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE??? will that do what i want
[04:07] <home> is officially kinda crap
[04:07] <Stingray88> almoxarife: when I do it your way it's very long
[04:07] <home> 10.10 just broke
[04:07] <home> I am ditching ubuntu -.-
[04:07] <Philosoraptor> I have an external harddrive that won't let me write to it at all, says it is read only
[04:07] <dajhorn> rnigam: Xen is back in the Oneiric kernel.  Keep the old kernels intact if you upgrade.
[04:07] <home> tested 11.10
[04:07] <almoxarife> Stingray88: alrighty then. good luck
[04:07] <home> which is crap
[04:07] <arghx> hase: you said you want to use your wlan, not a ppp connection?
[04:08] <Benwalburn> how do i install the broadcom driver manually using the tar file from the broadcom website?
[04:08] <bobbert> home: if you gonna say that i recommend #rage
[04:08] <arghx> Philosoraptor: check if it's mounted read only (mount) or if the permissions don't allow your user to write
[04:08] <Stingray88> almoxarife: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running
[04:08] <Stingray88> almoxarife: that is the error
[04:08] <joe040288> Benwalburn, you probably have to use ndfswrapper
[04:08] <arghx> Benwalburn: broadcom.com has a howto/readme
[04:08] <romeo_> home: try LInux Mint. Based on Ubuntu, but some issues I was having seem to be fixed.
[04:09] <home> took a look at it
[04:09] <home> not impressed
[04:09] <romeo_> hmm. To each his own i guess.
[04:09] <Benwalburn> i didn't understand the readme :( i tried
[04:09] <home> might stop using Ubuntu for  a while
[04:09] <almoxarife> Stingray88: is smdt running?
[04:09] <arghx> !enter | home
[04:09] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I don't know
[04:09] <Iron> dajhorn, arghx : This is the jockey.log file it refers to... http://pastebin.com/D9QFtn81
[04:09] <home> go with Archlinux maybe. or even Gentoo
[04:09] <Iron> dajhorn, arghx : I am going to generate again the error
[04:09] <kylesum> i do recommend Arch highly, i have it on my desktop. ubuntu on the lappy.
[04:10] <histo> I use arch as well
[04:10] <romeo_> hey, if you can figure out Gentoo...
[04:10] <histo> romeo_: if you can use arch you can use gentoo no problem
[04:10] <joe040288> yea gentoo is a bit hmm weird
[04:10] <histo> I just got tired of emerging every damn thing
[04:10] <bobbert> home: go to #rage. noone here cares. this is not the place to moan about ubuntu. this is the place for ubuntu supptort.
[04:10] <Philosoraptor> arghx: /dev/sdb2 on /media/BHS type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[04:10] <rabbi1> i reset my compiz and gnome, now alt+tab is not working :( any help
[04:10] <home> bobbert
[04:10] <home> 11.10
[04:10] <spikebike> arghx: every install a server with unetbootin?  I was hoping to install ont a /dev/md0 which afaict the ubuntu-dessktop varients can't handle
[04:10] <home> I dont like UNITY
[04:10] <home> or GNOME
[04:10] <FloodBot1> home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <joe040288> then install kubuntu
[04:11] <determinology> OR windows
[04:11] <kuchiku> can anyone recommed me any dialer for adsl ?
[04:11] <home> Kubuntu eh hmm how is it
[04:11] <home> determinology, already got windows.
[04:11] <histo> kuchiku: pppoe
[04:11] <sianhulo> people, i heard that you can resize a ntfs partition with gparted without data loss
[04:11] <histo> !ppp | kuchiku
[04:11] <determinology> oh ok
[04:11] <rabbi1> home: kubuntu is KDE
[04:11] <Philosoraptor> arghx: i can't move things to it as sudo either
[04:11] <Edisto> damn this upgrade is going slow...
[04:11] <joe040288> altho i got tired of all the issues i kept having with kde so i switched to genome
[04:11] <sianhulo> is that true?
[04:11] <home> rabbi1, how is it?
[04:11] <arghx> spikebike: what has the program you use to create the install medium to do with what installer of ubunut you suse. you are confusing things badly
[04:11] <histo> kuchiku: network-manager should be able to handle your dsl connection also
[04:11] <home> compared to ubuntu
[04:11] <histo> !pppoe | kuchiku
[04:11] <determinology> I would pick gnome over unity tho
[04:12] <rabbi1> home: no idea, used long time back, check few screenshots
[04:12] <bobbert> home: are you asking for a distro recomendation?
[04:12] <dajhorn> sianhulo: Yes, it works.  gparted calls the ntfsresize program to do the actual work.
[04:12] <joe040288> altho i realllllllllyyyyyyy miss how easy kde was to customize
[04:12] <kylesum> does the old ubuntu classic trick still work in 11.10?
[04:12] <home> bobbert, sure.
[04:12] <rabbi1> i reset my compiz and gnome, now alt+tab is not working :( any help
[04:12] <glitch-mod> How do I find out the name of my sound module?
[04:12] <sianhulo> dajhorn, thank you very much
[04:12] <joe040288> kylesum, yes
[04:12] <histo> !dsl | kuchiku
[04:12] <Iron> dajhorn, arghx : this one has been generated after the error: http://pastebin.com/1dd6ndYR
[04:12] <kylesum> joe04288 thanks.
[04:12] <histo> what's with the bot tonight
[04:12] <dajhorn> sianhulo: Welcome.
[04:12] <joe040288> kylesum, np
[04:12] <spikebike> arghx: umm, how so?  Yes I want to create a usb thumb drive I can install ubuntu-server with
[04:12] <Stingray88> almoxarife: how do check if smbd is running
[04:13] <sianhulo> i have another question, my BIOS  does support usb boot, however it always give me error doing that way
[04:13] <almoxarife> Stingray88: with gnome system monitor
[04:13] <Edisto> hmmm.. i thought 11.10 was gonna look more like fedora or macos
[04:13] <joe040288> is there a way to enable the 3d effect for unity cause i cant seem to get it working
[04:13] <rabbi1> sianhulo: upgrade your bios
[04:13] <sianhulo> i 1 year ago(or so) asked here, and somebody told how to boot from my usb with grub, and IT WORKED, howeb
[04:13] <home> Edisto, it is becoming more macish
[04:13] <Iron> sianhulo, where do you create your installation stick?
[04:13] <Stingray88> almoxarife: it's not, how do I start it
[04:14] <bobbert> home: then just say that. gentoo is good if you're a technical user. kubuntu is not very good, and hard  to get used to. xubuntu is ok. try distrowatch.com has good reviews of lots of distros.
[04:14] <sianhulo> however, i lost that config
[04:14] <almoxarife> Stingray88: that's the thing, it should be running
[04:14] <OerHeks> Kubuntu is great, bobbert
[04:14] <sianhulo> Iron, i dunno, ubuntu make it itself and it works in another sistem
[04:14] <sianhulo> rabbi1, it is already...
[04:14] <Stingray88> almoxarife: if you have samba installed it should always be running?
[04:14] <simpleblue> i might give kubuntu a try
[04:14] <Edisto> it looks the same as 11.04 though =D just different icons
[04:14] <home> bobbert,  I personally might go gentoo or archlinux, but I like it as a media production desktop.
[04:14] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: speaking of upgrading bios. Do you know how I can upgrade bios for my hp envy 17 without a windows environment?
[04:14] <rabbi1> sianhulo: u trying to install ubuntu ?
[04:14] <almoxarife> Stingray88: I guess not in your case
[04:14] <sianhulo> i'm trying to update it
[04:15] <romeo_> sianhulo: whats the error you get?
[04:15] <joe040288> Edisto, most manufaters have a bios cd that you boot up
[04:15] <Iron> sianhulo, hummmm... you can try unetbootin and make sure you have it formatted in FAT32
[04:15] <Stingray88> almoxarife: how do I force it to start then
[04:15] <Philosoraptor> arghx: any ideas?
[04:15] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: never exp on hp. got to check their specific site for bios upgrade
[04:15] <sianhulo> i'm a mess with cds so i wanna update it through usb
[04:15] <nosbig> home: Another option to try if you want multimedia production with some stability...  Debian Wheezy/Testing with the Debian Multimedia repositories added...
[04:15] <rabbi1> sianhulo: then why you need bios ?
[04:15] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: yeah it says windows required. I tried a few things to know avail. Thanks anyways
[04:15] <sianhulo> Iron,  i've tried with that, with the default of ubuntu and at least 2 more
[04:16] <bobbert> oerheks: i like the interface, but dont like the one click to open thing and the widgets. i also think theme is outdated. i am not condoning or hating it i am merely stating what my experience is with it, that it confused me as a new user.
[04:16] <sianhulo> neither worked
[04:16] <bobbert> home: it?
[04:16] <kuchiku> how do i know i'm using kde or something else
[04:16] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: then install windows, upgrade bios then install ubuntu
[04:16] <sianhulo> romeo_, it only shows "boot error"(THE BIOS)
[04:16] <Iron> sianhulo, what kinf of error does it give?
[04:16] <Iron> kind*
[04:16] <dajhorn> Iron: The log says that the fglrx module was successfully compiled, but it seems like it didn't match the PCI identifier of the hardware.  What kind of ATI/AMD video card do you have in the computer?
[04:16] <sianhulo> Iron, shows output "boot error"
[04:17] <Stingray88> how do I force samba to start
[04:17] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: I don't want to loose my ubuntu install I got going. Doesn't windows want the whole hd.
[04:17] <Stingray88> does anyone know?
[04:17] <sianhulo> however, it works by grub, but i lost the configurtion
[04:17] <almoxarife> Stingray88: by undoing everything that may be samba related and then installing nautilus-share
[04:17] <Iron> dajhorn, I have a Mobility Radeon 5650 HD
[04:17] <sianhulo> somebody know how to add the option?
[04:17] <Philosoraptor> Any time i try to change permissions for this read only external harddrive, it says I can't because it is read only T_T
[04:17] <kylesum> has anyone installed nautilus-open-terminal on 11.10?
[04:17] <nosbig> Stingray88: service samba start?
[04:17] <romeo_> sianhulo: ah. i know a system of mine is a pain to boot off usb. It doesnt pick it up as a removable device, but as a harddrive. just a matter of changing the boot order of my harddrives. sound possible
[04:17] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I already tried doing purge on samba and system-config-samba but all of my configurations remain
[04:18] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: nothing, just goahead and do it. it's always better to have your bios upgraded once in 2 years
[04:18] <Stingray88> nosbig: unrecognized service… and yes, it's installed
[04:18] <bobbert> stingray88: /etc/init.d/samba restart. i think
[04:18] <sianhulo> romeo_, yep, mine tells that either, it's with my hardisk, however, that doesn't help
[04:18] <almoxarife> Stingray88: tell me when you are staring at synaptic
[04:19] <Stingray88> bobbert: no such file or directory
[04:19] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I am already
[04:19] <almoxarife> Stingray88: see search bar?
[04:19] <Iron> sianhulo, no clue... if you had tried another apps and it works on another systems...
[04:19] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes
[04:19] <almoxarife> Stingray88: type samba
[04:19] <rabbi1> solved all my display problems in 15 mins, great ! thanks to forum, #ubuntu and ubuntu
[04:19] <bobbert> stingray88: ouch. i cant remember it!  :'(
[04:19] <romeo_> sianhulo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB - that sound helpful?
[04:20] <Stingray88> almoxarife: ok
[04:20] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: so you are saying I can install windows without blowing up my ubuntu install?
[04:20] <rabbi1> romeo_: if his bios doesn't support usb then that is of no use
[04:20] <Grecoo> Hey, do you know how to start with gnome3 on 11.10?
[04:20] <Grecoo> i couldn't do it
[04:20] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: yes, you will just blowup the boot config file, that you can reset it later
[04:20] <almoxarife> Stingray88: what do you see installed? on left side click on installed
[04:21] <Iron> Grecoo, here it started the last logged in session....
[04:21] <Edisto> i thought gnome3 was what 11.10 was using....
[04:21] <arghx> zmbmartin: you can, but you will need to reinstall grub afterwards
[04:21] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: awesome I will work on that. Thanks
[04:21] <bobbert> grecoo: go to gnome.org and it will have install instruction for ubuntu.
[04:21] <joe040288> having trouble getting 3d effects working on 11.10 installed nvidia drivers and compiz settings manager but no matter what i change nothing works
[04:21] <Grecoo> ok, thanks
[04:21] <sianhulo> romeo_,  it seems, but i don't quite understand it xD, in fact, english isn't my primary language...
[04:21] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: before doing so, just keep the solution ready to recover your grub....
[04:21] <Iron> Grecoo, actually, you can install from the Software Center
[04:21] <joe040288> Edisto, no its using unity but u can use genome 3 with the ubuntu classic trick
[04:21] <itaylor57> !notunity +
[04:21] <nosbig> How have the upgrades gone?  Fairly smoothly?  Any major problems found so far?
[04:21] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: I can do that from a ubuntu live usb right?
[04:21] <arghx> joe040288: is GLX hardware assisted?
[04:22] <joe040288> arghx, no sure
[04:22] <arghx> joe040288: then find out
[04:22] <Grecoo> i thinked that it came by defect
[04:22] <arghx> zmbmartin: yes
[04:22] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: guess so. be prepared with all the situation..
[04:22] <zmbmartin> arghx: Thanks
[04:22] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: Thanks
[04:22] <Stingray88> almoxarife: samba, system-config-samba, samba-common, samba-common-bin, libwbclinet0, libpam-smbpass, python-smbc, smbclient, nautilus-share, libsmbclient, gnome-system-tools
[04:22] <paulnm> Hey, my searches haven't come up with anything.  Is there a way to make upgrade-manager download-only?
[04:23] <OerHeks> Stingray88, to check if samba is running > service smbd status
[04:23] <Philosoraptor> sooo arghx any ideas?
[04:23] <arghx> paulnm: apt-get can do that
[04:23] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: you won't loose anything other than grub, and depends on your FS/ Drive Structure... So i have no idea how is yours, need to understand your situation and you are the best person to judge that
[04:23] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: conclusion is can be done.
[04:23] <joe040288> arghx, no looks like its software assisted
[04:23] <arghx> Philosoraptor: need more info. error messages, permissions of files, etc
[04:23] <Stingray88> oerheks: warning: fake initctl called, doing nothing.
[04:23] <dajhorn> Iron: I'm looking for the supported hardware list of the latest Catalyst driver to check whether your GPU is supported.
[04:23] <arghx> joe040288: then your nvidia drives are not installed corretcly. however: how do you know it's software only?
[04:23] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: Yeah I will take all that into consideration.
[04:23] <Iron> dajhorn, ok, thanks
[04:24] <paulnm> arghx: yeah, but then I have to manually change the sources, then back again afterwards.  I was hoping upgrade-manager finally had that capability.
[04:24] <almoxarife> Stingray88: complete remove 'nautilus-share and samba'
[04:24] <Iron> dajhorn, as it is offered here in the drivers app, it should be...
[04:24] <Philosoraptor> arghx: mount paste: /dev/sdb2 on /media/BHS type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[04:24] <arghx> paulnm: no you don't have to change anything. updsate manager and apt-get use the same sources.lost
[04:24] <joe040288> arghx, i looked at the nvidia setting manager and i think its software assited but i cant tell for sure
[04:25] <Hdale85> do you think a dist upgrade will go smoothly going from ubuntu server 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS?
[04:25] <Philosoraptor> arghx: when i try moving anything to it it says "Error while copying to "BHS". The destination is read-only."
[04:25] <arghx> joe040288: you look in the wrong place. Xorg log or glxconfig is the place
[04:25] <paulnm> arghx: Oops, I meant when upgrading distro versions.
[04:25] <joe040288> arghx, ok
[04:25] <arghx> paulnm: same applies. what is your actual problem you want to solve?
[04:26] <Stingray88> almoxarife: OK, completely removed those
[04:26] <almoxarife> Stingray88: now what do you see?
[04:26] <Stingray88> almoxarife: that those packages aren't installed
[04:27] <arghx> Stingray88: and are they purged too or not?
[04:27] <Hdale85> really don't want to screw up my raid array upgrading lol
[04:27] <almoxarife> Stingray88: what is left showing in 'installed' with 'samba' in the search box
[04:27] <Asad2005> I have started liferea and it seems to have started minimized to tray, i dont see it now how do i see the application and change its prefrences to not attach itself to pannel
[04:27] <arghx> almoxarife: hint: dpkg -l |grep samba
[04:28] <paulnm> arghx: If update-manager doesn't have the option, then it doesn't really matter.  In the past, I've changed the sources to the new release, apt-get/aptitude downloaded updates, then put the sources back.  When actually running upgrade-manager later on, it still downloaded more files.
[04:28] <joe040288> arghx, in the xorg log file it says it loaded the glx module but it doesnt say if it is hardware or software assisted
[04:28] <almoxarife> arghx: please feel free to assist, I won't go terminal until i have to
[04:28] <arghx> paulnm: makes no sense. why only download? and why would you ever change back?
[04:28] <Stingray88> almoxarife: libpam-smbpass, libsmbclient, libwbclient0, samba-common, samba-common-bin, smbclient, gnome-system-tools, python-smbc
[04:29] <Iron> Do you guys know of any software that is as good as Picasa for quick image "enhancing" ?
[04:29] <arghx> luminae: he doesn't tell me the error so I cannot help. just wanted to point out a possible problem when you reinstall samba and still use the old config in which case the problem won't be solved)
[04:29] <Iron> I don't like Picasa having to use "wine" to run
[04:29] <almoxarife> Stingray88: complete remove samba-common, samba-common-bin, smbclient
[04:30] <dajhorn> Iron: Search the Ubuntu Forums for your part number.  The 8.881 release should be compatible with your hardware, but it can break during upgrades.  (ie: Upstream from AMD or downstream from Natty.)  Past that, you've got me stumped.
[04:30] <Asad2005> How do i start an application directly maximized from terminal
[04:30] <joe040288> arghx, and glxconfig doesnt seem to work
[04:30] <Iron> dajhorn, part number?
[04:31] <Stingray88> almoxarife: done
[04:31] <dajhorn> Iron: Radeon 5650
[04:31] <arghx> !doesn't work
[04:31] <Iron> dajhorn, ah, alrite! Thanks man for the effort
[04:31] <dajhorn> Iron: Np.
[04:31] <joe040288> arghx, running glxconfig from terminal says command cant be found
[04:31] <almoxarife> Stingray88: restart the damm thing :)
[04:32]  * PCdoc upgraded to ubuntu 11.10
[04:32] <Stingray88> almoxarife: restarting
[04:32] <mintsoup> firefox is doing weird things with text, for example wherever there is a word with 'fi', for example first, firefox displays the fi as A\, e.g. A\rst. Any ideas what would cause this?
[04:33] <Cygnia> Is there a default calendar application in Oneiric that integrates with the clock/calendar in the top bar?
[04:34] <Iron> dajhorn, if I go directly to the AMD's website and install the drivers from there, will it break my system?
[04:34] <Stingray88> almoxarife: OK it's restarted
[04:34] <ryankrizan> I just installed 11.10 on my Dell Inspiron E1505, and my network connection is very, very slow
[04:35] <ryankrizan> Could someone assist me in troubleshooting this?
[04:35] <almoxarife> Stingray88: go back into synaptic, check for anything in 'residual......'
[04:35] <dajhorn> Iron: Fully uninstall all of the Ubuntu fglrx packages before you try that.
[04:35] <Iron> dajhorn, right! Thanks
[04:35] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: i also noticed something similar :-s
[04:35] <sanduz2> how do i add more workspaces to unity
[04:35] <dajhorn> Iron: And remember to manually clean up the *.run file if you go back to the distro drivers.
[04:36] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, What kind of download rates can you get? I can't get anything over 4kbps
[04:36] <Iron> dajhorn, ha, now you got me ;P
[04:36] <Stingray88> almoxarife: where is residual
[04:36] <joe040288> ryankrizan, could be the ipv6 settings i noticed when i installed that they were set to auto dhpc to i set it to ignore
[04:36] <Iron> dajhorn, if I just deactivate through the Drivers app, will it do?
[04:36] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: i didnt check by downloading files, but browsing is some what slow
[04:36] <dajhorn> Iron: The drivers from AMD come in a dot-run file.   They conflict with the drivers that you can install from the Software Center (or Jockey).  You need to be careful not to mixmatch them.
[04:37] <crackhead> Omg can ANYONE help me get rt73usb to work?!?!
[04:37] <dajhorn> Iron: Deactivating is inadequate.  You need to `apt-get remove --purge` them.
[04:37] <elvis2_> is there a way to tell apache2 to load php 5.2 instead of php 5.3? i know a time back i had this option within my vps, all i had to do was change my php.ini or .htaccess
[04:37] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, I'm going to try setting the ipv6 settings to ignore, see where that gets me
[04:37] <Iron> dajhorn, right, gonna do some research on how to do it properly, thanks
[04:38] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: they shld be set to ignore .. mine is already ignored
[04:38] <dajhorn> Iron: Welcome.
[04:38] <sanduz2> can someone tell me how to add workspaces in oneiric please
[04:38] <Stingray88> almoxarife: do you mean software installed that is related to samba? or is there a way to organize by "residual"
[04:38] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, Set both wireless and wired to ignore. No change.
[04:38] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: how abt restarting modem/router ?
[04:38] <crackhead> I'm at my wit's end.. I've been reading the same bulletin board postings everywhere with NO solution.. Rt73usb.. If anyone can help or point me in the right direction, so appreciated
[04:39] <almoxarife> Stingray88: no, if its there its under installed, last option I think on right
[04:39] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, Not sure that would be the issue. The laptop I'm on now is a Dell 1545, and it's doing fine.
[04:39] <almoxarife> Stingray88: left I mean
[04:40] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: mine made a bit faster when restarted modem
[04:40] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, However, maybe it's having a fit with the 1505, might be worth rebooting.
[04:40] <ryankrizan> It's worth a shot. Back in 2 minutes.
[04:40] <Stingray88> almoxarife: the only thing on the left is categories for packages
[04:40] <PCdoc> oop!! electricity cut off
[04:40] <sanduz2> is there really no way to add workspaces in oneiric :|
[04:40] <PCdoc> cya laterz :(
[04:41] <Stingray88> almoxarife: do you mean the little green box?
[04:41] <almoxarife> little green box?
[04:41] <santiago> where i am?
[04:41] <zykotick9> sanduz2, try ccsm / General / Desktop Size tab (i haven't tried oneiric though)
[04:42] <Stingray88> almoxarife: http://i.imgur.com/bkds1.png little green box
[04:42] <davf> I can't install a gnome  shell theme on 11.10. tried webupd8 info but still won't allow me to choose a shell theme. Shell extensions doesn't show the option for themes
[04:43] <Iron> dajhorn, ok, I did: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:43] <randomusr> Anyone been able use their cam on Facebook?
[04:43] <Iron> dajhorn, now I am going to reboot
[04:43] <almoxarife> Stingray88: do you see 'status' down on the left side?
[04:43] <randomusr> Wine perhaps?
[04:44] <FSWolf> wow XD
[04:44] <FSWolf> big room
[04:44] <FSWolf> ok fast question here... i got a logitech orbital web cam and im tryin to get the tilt pan and zoom working any one else here had any luck with this ???
[04:44] <raeven> Probably a dumb question here... anyone running the new distro yet?
[04:45] <sanduz2> zykotick9, thanks a bunch that worked
[04:45] <optidude> man there is not a whole lotta chatting going on in  a lot of other channels
[04:45] <Stingray88> almoxarife: ah yes, there we go, so you want to know if anything is listed under Not Installed (residual config)?
[04:45] <optidude> this channel people are always chatting
[04:45] <almoxarife> Stingray88: yes
[04:45] <Adyeths> is there a way to make the fonts in the bar across the top of the screen in Oneiric antialiased and not look so ugly? Everywhere else looks great except there.
[04:45] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes there is from two things
[04:46] <crackhead> rt73usb ... anyone know why it's so fluctuating and slow with internet on 10.04, 10.10.. and virtually all 2.6 kernels???
[04:46] <almoxarife> Stingray88: both samba related?
[04:46] <Stingray88> almoxarife: indeed
[04:46] <almoxarife> Stingray88: get rid of both
[04:46] <randomusr> crackhead, because it's and RT and it's usb?
[04:47] <crackhead> meaning?
[04:47] <randomusr> crackhead, are you using the kernel driver?
[04:47] <almoxarife> Stingray88: stay in the 'status' mode from now on please
[04:47] <crackhead> I believe so, yes
[04:47] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I marked them both for complete removal, but the Apply button is grayed out
[04:47] <crackhead> randomusr: should I install the oneiric kernel?
[04:47] <almoxarife> Stingray88: it would, a bug, would you believe it? :)
[04:48] <FSWolf> i cant seem to find any thing that will let me control the tilt pan and zoom :( can u please pm on this ...
[04:48] <randomusr> crackhead, have you check for a madwifi driver, ndiswrapper, or proprietary driver?
[04:48] <Stingray88> almoxarife: is there another way to remove them
[04:48] <glitch-mod> I followed the sound guide to no avail, right after I finished upgrading it was working but after a reboot I get no sound
[04:48] <almoxarife> Stingray88: we need to install something for shits and giggles, pick something
[04:48] <crackhead> every post seems to advise against using madwifi, ndis
[04:48] <randomusr> crackhead, perhaps the compatwireless package?
[04:48] <crackhead> where/which should I try? I'm game to try ANYTHING at this point
[04:48] <TrueFX> a
[04:48] <Stingray88> almoxarife: hah… so it's that kind of a fix
[04:48] <crackhead> I believe it was installed?
[04:49] <crackhead> How can I check?
[04:49] <crackhead> what's the package name?
[04:49] <almoxarife> Stingray88: until the ubuntu gods fix it, yeah
[04:49] <sianhulo> somebody knows how to boot by my usb in grub?
[04:49] <crackhead> in synaptic it said the compat package was an empty module/package
[04:49] <randomusr> crackhead, then check for a proprietary driver
[04:49] <crackhead> check where?
[04:49] <almoxarife> Stingray88: don't install anything samba related!
[04:50] <randomusr> crackhead, hold please
[04:50] <crackhead> randomusr: what's the cle command to check if the correct compact package is installed?
[04:50] <crackhead> ok sure - holding
[04:50] <Stingray88> almoxarife: haha yes I figured… installing chromium, meant to try it sometime anyways
[04:50] <raeven> crackhead: what are you trying to use? (late to this discussion, but some experience...)
[04:50] <almoxarife> Stingray88: good choice
[04:51] <crackhead> raeven: I'm trying to get this freaking wifi card to work properly! since I switched (had to switch from wep to wpa) the rt73usb card is fluctuating and freaking slowwwwwwww!
[04:51] <randomusr> http://linuxwireless.org/
[04:51] <crackhead> seems tons of people have the same problem
[04:51] <crackhead> I've read numerous pages on that site
[04:51] <almoxarife> Stingray88: the residual config should have gone, with the install done, verify
[04:51] <crackhead> randomusr: what about that site/what page in specific are you referring?
[04:51] <Stingray88> almoxarife: will do in 30 seconds
[04:52] <raeven> Okay. What make and model of wifi card?
[04:52] <randomusr> crackhead, check the compatability page on aircrack-ng
[04:52] <randomusr> That should help
[04:52] <kylesum> what is this about emacs violating the GPL? has anyone heard that anywhere?
[04:52] <crackhead> what's aircrack
[04:52]  * phlak_user is pleased as punch - on chatzilla via 11.10 liveCD :)
[04:52] <rage> How do I access what was originally (in 10.04) Appearance Preferences -> Theme -> Customise -> Colours in 11.10?
[04:53] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: do you know if I could make or get a windows live cd and upgrade my bios from that?
[04:53] <crackhead> raeven: it's builtin on the mobo of my hp pavil desktop
[04:53] <phlak_user> is it me or does it seem faster?
[04:53] <raeven> Aircrack is a WEP/WPA cracking script.
[04:53] <randomusr> crackhead, what's the chipset?
[04:53] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: sorry, no idea
[04:53] <crackhead> randomusr: I'm not sure - where can I find it? iwconfig wlan0?
[04:53] <raeven> Built in... surprising there's not a driver built into the kernel...
[04:53] <randomusr> no
[04:53] <Stingray88> almoxarife: nothing under residual now
[04:54] <almoxarife> Stingray88: cool
[04:54] <Adyeths> is there a way to make the fonts in the bar across the top of the screen in Oneiric antialiased and not look so ugly? Everywhere else looks great except there.
[04:54] <randomusr> crackhead, lspci -vv
[04:54] <almoxarife> Stingray88: install nautilus-share
[04:54] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: i don't think windows gives you that kind of option like ubuntu, check out the new 7 and 8. if you have any with you.
[04:54] <raeven> ...What randomusr said.
[04:54] <randomusr> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers#compatibility
[04:55] <crackhead> realtek rtl8111/8168B, it seems.. kernel module r8169...?
[04:55] <raeven> My last HP used an Atmel chipset...I think.
[04:55] <phlak_user> rage: same place- just type appearance in the dash search bar and click on Appearance
[04:55] <Stingray88> almoxarife: done
[04:55] <raeven> You don't want to use rt73usb anyway... that's for dongles.
[04:56] <crackhead> raeven: I'm happy to follow your suggestions otherwise....
[04:56] <rage> phlak_user: Yes, I've made it that far
[04:56] <almoxarife> Stingray88: logout and back in
[04:56] <phlak_user> rage: colors are in the dropbox (that says wallpaper by default)
[04:56] <celltech> Is there anyway to purge my system of just unneeded and uncessecary junk?
[04:56] <randomusr> crackhead, download the driver here - http://homepages.tu-darmstadt.de/~p_larbig/wlan/
[04:57] <phlak_user> celltech: computer-janitor?
[04:57] <Stingray88> almoxarife: done
[04:57] <rage> phlak_user: I think thats the desktop colour
[04:57] <celltech> Something better than that
[04:57] <almoxarife> Stingray88: choose 'documents' from your home folder to share
[04:57] <celltech> like really drive out the trash programs and stuff
[04:57] <phlak_user> rage: hang on lemme check
[04:58] <Stingray88> almoxarife: wants me to install the service, let it?
[04:58] <almoxarife> Stingray88: yes
[04:58] <crackhead> randomusr: I'll try that one...
[04:59] <raeven> celltech: computer janitor's good, also try gtk-orphan
[04:59] <raeven> FSLint's another good one.
[04:59] <ryankrizan> Is anyone else having a problem with slow network connection with Ubuntu 11.10?
[04:59] <celltech> Cool. Yeah there's alot of things this system comes with that I'll never use in my life
[04:59] <celltech> making my instal WAY to big
[04:59] <almoxarife> raeven: janitor will tell you to delete packages in 'local'
[05:00] <crackhead> raeven: when I modprobe -r my rt73usb .. I get.. "all config files need .conf... ralink.." and ".conf... nvidia-kernel-nkc..." what's that mean??
[05:00] <phlak_user> rage: you're right! need to dig more
[05:00] <sianhulo> people, i have an pendrive that i wanna use to boot by grub
[05:00] <celltech> I installed a 120gb harddrive on this system. installed 11.04, and I have 60gb left? That means there way too much junk it came with
[05:00] <raeven> almoxarife: yes it will, but FSLint does it from the GUI (for those who prefer a happyclickyGUI)
[05:01] <rage> phlak_user: I know they can be changed, I've upgraded and it carried some of my colours through. They now clash horribly
[05:01] <Stingray88> almoxarife: http://i.imgur.com/lB1gC.png
[05:01] <sianhulo> it is /dev/sdf1, so it should be set root=(hd5,1) ?
[05:01] <phlak_user> rage: i need to research more now:)
[05:01] <phlak_user> rage: btw are you on unity or gnome3
[05:01] <mrguitar> join #dotnet
[05:01] <almoxarife> Stingray88: yes,  looks good
[05:02] <almoxarife> Stingray88: create share
[05:02] <Arcas> I need help with my sound. my system sees all my hardware but I still cant get any sound from my pc
[05:02] <rage> phlak_user: Either
[05:02] <Stingray88> almoxarife: i can't
[05:02] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i"
[05:02] <Arcas> I just installed 11.10
[05:02] <complexity> this is taking forever, any ideas?
[05:02] <rage> phlak_user: We'll got with unity in this case
[05:02] <raeven> crackhead: sounds like either some config files are either missing, or missing the .conf extension...
[05:02] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I get that error in the picture
[05:02] <phlak_user> rage: ok
[05:02] <ponit> somebody , I need to knowhow can I to made sound clearly...?
[05:03] <dageriv> When I ssh into a new box, I am asked if I want to trust the host which has provided RSA fingerprint. I also have the certificate for the server. How can I generate a fingerprint from the cert?
[05:03] <idovecer> ponit, what do you mean?
[05:03] <almoxarife> Stingray88: restart the machine
[05:03] <ponit> my sound can not get out
[05:03] <raeven> crackhead: stupid question - have you invoked the Great God Google?
[05:04] <SunTsu> sianhulo: isn't grub-probe the tool to find out reliably?
[05:04] <sianhulo> SunTsu, i don't know it
[05:05] <somsip> Arcas: run alsamixer and check if the channels are muted?
[05:06] <phlak_user> rage: this page asks us to install Gnome Tweak tool -> http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/08/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-10/
[05:06] <phlak_user> rage: lemme try that out
[05:06] <Stingray88> almoxarife: this is what I get after I've restarted http://i.imgur.com/ik4pq.png
[05:07] <raeven> crackhead: check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1363111
[05:07] <Flynsarmy> Rhythmbox on 11.10 has no 'status tray' plugin. I have rhythmbox-plugins installed. any ideas?
[05:07] <Arcas> I found it....I had to switch it to Digital stereo since I'm running audio through optical
[05:07] <Arcas> thanks though
[05:07] <crackhead> raeven: yeah, invoked google a million times..
[05:07] <crackhead> everytime i modprobe -r and reload the rt73 or any module, the keyboard starts flashing and freezing the whole system needs a reboot.. gah
[05:08] <raeven> Woah... haven't run into that one before!
[05:08] <crackhead> raeven: I'm going to try to get these enhanced rt73 compiled and installe.d. and see if that does anything.. though I don't think it will.. a lot of other people mentioned trying them, and not having any success...
[05:09] <raeven> crackhead: well, give it a try. The worst that could happen is thhat it still doesn't work.
[05:09] <rage> phlak_user: Doesn't look good
[05:09] <Adyeths> is there a way to make the fonts in the bar across the top of the screen in Oneiric antialiased and not look so ugly? Everywhere else looks great except there.
[05:09] <Flynsarmy> anyone know hot to use nouveau drivers on 11.10? i've installed nouveau-firmware but dont know how to turn it on
[05:10] <almoxarife> Stingray88: those two last errors I can't explain
[05:10] <raeven> crackhead: that warning you mentioned earlier means that the config files you referenced are simply missing the .conf extension.
[05:10] <raeven> Add that to all of them and try it again.
[05:11] <almoxarife> Stingray88: also you should have samba config in etc after the nautilus-share install
[05:12] <studentz> Hi there I upgrading to Oneric and I forgot my pass of phpmyadmin but i do remember my mysql pass any suggestion. Thanks
[05:13] <Adyeths> anyone know where I might be able to find an answer to my question?
[05:13] <Stingray88> almoxarife: sigh… I just don't get how things can get this messed up in one week
[05:13] <Stingray88> both being on fresh installs too
[05:13] <Stingray88> a week apart
[05:14] <raeven> Adyeths: I'll let you know as soon as my upgrade finishes downloading...
[05:14] <VampsDaBeast> anyone know of a package that converts mp3. wav, and other various formats to ogg?
[05:15] <VampsDaBeast> would need to convert multiple format, and mutliple files
[05:15] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, converting mp3 to ogg is a bad idea
[05:15] <crackhead> raeven: is there a way to turn off the internal wireless adapter? and use a usb dongle adapter I have and can plug in?
[05:16] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, is there a better way?
[05:16] <D_Russ> anyone having issues with 11.10 so far?
[05:16] <raeven> crackhead: if it shows up in ifconfig or iwconfig, then sudo ifconfig wlan0 down (assuming wlan0 is your onboard wifi card)
[05:16] <D_Russ> hardware incompatibility issues?
[05:16] <SunTsu> VampsDaBeast: ffmpeg could do the trick, but as zykotick9 says: trying to convert one lossy compression into another one is no good idea
[05:16] <raeven> D_Russ: like what?
[05:17] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, starting to get a little annoyed with alot of the linux media players locking up and freezing with my mediaplayers
[05:17] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, check out oggconvert if you wish.  SunTsu's ffmpeg suggestion is good as well
[05:17] <D_Russ> like anything, raeven
[05:17] <SunTsu> VampsDaBeast: you end up having worst of both worlds and a serious decrese in quality
[05:17] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i", this just freezes, I need some help
[05:17] <SunTsu> decrease even
[05:17] <D_Russ> trying to decide if i should go ahead and switch from 11.04 or wait a few weeks
[05:18] <VampsDaBeast> again i ask.. other then redownloading ALL 400gb of music.. is there a better way to convert them with out the decrease / loss?
[05:18] <raeven> D_Russ: just curious. Still waiting on my upgrade to download, looking to get a jump on problems that might crop up...
[05:18] <mindblown808> hmm
[05:18] <D_Russ> yep
[05:18] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, not possible.  lossy->lossy will decrease quality
[05:18] <D_Russ> me too
[05:18] <SunTsu> D_Russ: last time I decided to wait a couple of weeks had me end up still using Maverick ;)
[05:19] <FSWolf> hi im using ubuntu and i have a logitech orbital web cam but i  cant control the tilt pan and zoom functions has any one else  experenced this issue and perhaps found a solution can you pm  me please ?
[05:19] <D_Russ> for how long SunTsu?
[05:19] <glitch-mod> Anyone else having sound issues?
[05:19] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, is it possible to go from lossy to non-lossy to lossy without decrease?
[05:20] <VampsDaBeast> and how bad is the decrease?
[05:20] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, no - that's still lossy->lossy
[05:20] <FSWolf> glitch-mod: ya in the past try changing sound drivers
[05:20] <D_Russ> the torrent download is going VERY fast
[05:20] <glitch-mod> FSWolf, How can I do that?
[05:20] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, might not be noticeable - depends how picky you are
[05:21] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, WAV and FLAC -> Ogg is fine
[05:21] <chintan> hiiii
[05:21] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, well i'm not a music studio producer so for it to sound like Dolby isnt the goal
[05:21] <studentz> VampsDaBeast  sound converter
[05:21] <chintan> whats the diffrence between logical & primary partition ?
[05:22] <infinitux> I have no internet on my laptop now that I installed fresh 11.10 and I want to install ndiswrapper so my wifi card will work but it's not installed.
[05:22] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, i do have some wavs in my collection.. so those to ogg will give little decrease?
[05:22] <infinitux> where do I get the i386 deb?
[05:22] <chintan> does anyone know ?
[05:22] <nosbig> So...  I tried to run the upgrade using the official method via update manager.  I was able to click the initial upgrade button above the empty list of 11.04 updates.  I then received the message pointing me to release notes where I clicked upgrade.  I was asked for my password, and then the application exited.  I tried to run update-manager manually, and it tells me that I need to run a partial upgrade.  When I choose a partial upgrade,
[05:22] <nosbig> the tool exits and does nothing.
[05:23] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, well WAV file aren't lossy, so you will not lose anything "extra" - just what's suppose to be lost
[05:23] <nosbig> I looked at my sources.list, and the upgrade tool modified it to refer to oneiric, rather than natty.
[05:23] <nosbig> Any ideas>
[05:23] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, ok
[05:23] <tian> mangons
[05:24] <nosbig> Should I run aptitude dist-upgrade?  Should I update the system piece by piece, group by group?
[05:24] <studentz> chintan a HD can have only 4 primary partitions and a logical partition can have a big number of subpartitions
[05:24] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, maybe taking just a few mp3 files and copying them and converting to test would be a wise idea?
[05:24] <crackhead> raeven: what packages are needed to build/compile the enhanced rt73?
[05:24] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, for sure - you might be ok with the results (you might not be)?  Test to see.
[05:24] <chintan> here no one listen any question ..
[05:24] <raeven> crackhead: you should just need a compiler/linker, most likely gcc
[05:25] <chintan> ??????????????????
[05:25] <chintan> ??????????????
[05:25] <FloodBot1> chintan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:25] <chintan> ????????????????????
[05:25] <zykotick9> studentz, it's actually an extended partition - that can have multiple logical paritions in it.
[05:25] <chintan> why onone listen my question ?
[05:26] <raeven> crackhead: ...which you most likely already have. If not, find it in synaptic (or apt-get if you prefer the command line)
[05:26] <studentz> zykotick9 you are right. sorry :(
[05:26] <anon_user> chintan, you need to listen.  studentz andwered you
[05:26] <soreau> eir is a bot :P
[05:26] <anon_user> *answered
[05:26] <raeven> crackhead: Unless the source comes with its own Makefile.
[05:26] <chintan> whats the difference ?
[05:26] <crackhead> raeven: make keeps giving error 1.. failed to build?
[05:27] <chintan> when i choose logical & when i choose primary ?
[05:27] <yagoo> chintan, primary is only for windows.. linux doesnt care if its log/primary
[05:27] <studentz> chintan do you want dual boot?
[05:27] <sianhulo> people, how i do i add a line in grub to boot from my usb?
[05:27] <raeven> crackhead: um. give me a second on that one...
[05:27] <crackhead> source comes with its own makefile
[05:27] <studentz> chintan I mean Ubuntu and MS
[05:27] <chintan> yes i want dual boot
[05:28] <soreau> hm
[05:28] <fowl> where is grubs menu.lst
[05:28] <studentz> chintan or Do you want only Ubuntu?
[05:28] <fowl> i have no menu.lst in /boot/grub
[05:28] <yagoo> chintan, dosmbr-style partition tables uses these terms  -- GPT (more modern style) only uses Primary partitions
[05:28] <chintan> i make swap partition as primary
[05:28] <sianhulo> i have it this way http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707747/ (the usb is /dev/sdf1)
[05:28] <chintan> is it right ?
[05:28] <yagoo> chintan, linux doesnt care..
[05:28] <zykotick9> fowl, long gone - that's a grub-legacy only file.
[05:28] <soreau> I downloaded the 11.10 dvd via torrent. Is there an md5sum for the 1.5GB iso somewhere?
[05:28] <sianhulo> fowl, i think that's used with grub, i supose you have grub2
[05:28] <raeven> crackhead: let me get back to you in a few minutes: my upgrade just finished downloading!
[05:28] <yagoo> chintan, swap can be on a primary partition.. that's fine too.
[05:28] <zykotick9> fowl, see /etc/default/grub for most config options - after any changes run "sudo update-grub" to apply
[05:28] <chintan> then why that options are provided in linux installation ...
[05:28] <chintan> any reason ?
[05:29] <Shirakawasuna> I've never upgraded an ubuntu distribution (11.04 -> 11.10 today). Do I need to be worried about anything/check anything after the process completes?
[05:29] <otdel> Hi friends!
[05:29] <debsan> chintan, for you yo come here and ask :)
[05:29] <Shirakawasuna> I'm also excited to see that Unity's application lens now has built-in category filters. Soooooooo much better.
[05:29] <SunTsu> chintan: because linux allows you to do what you please. You have that choice so you are presented it
[05:29] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: Back. Up.
[05:29] <sianhulo> somebody knows what is bad with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707747/ (i wan t to boot my usb by grub, the usb is /dev/sdf1)
[05:29] <yagoo> chintan, it's the old dumb dosmbr-style partition table (if u try to make more than 4 partitions, u start using "logical" partitions after the third primary partition)
[05:30] <sianhulo> but still can't get it working :(
[05:30] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: In case you need to reinstall
[05:30] <chintan> ok
[05:30] <chintan> thanks
[05:30] <fowl> zykotick9: i only wish to back it up, im about to install windows on another partition and want to be ready for the destruction it causes
[05:30] <zykotick9> !grub | fowl
[05:30] <chintan> one another problem in 11.10
[05:30] <otdel> привет с России=)
[05:30] <fowl> ty
[05:31] <chintan> when i maximize any screen
[05:31] <Shirakawasuna> soreau: I alwasy backup. Is it common to need to reinstall?
[05:31] <chintan> docs still display left side
[05:31] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: Upgrades are sometimes problematic
[05:31] <chintan> any option for autohide ?
[05:31] <glitch-mod> what does sudo -s do
[05:32] <otdel> аля улю
[05:32] <Shirakawasuna> soreau: Is there anything I can do to prevent that? Any commands to check things after the process completes?
[05:32] <sianhulo> somebody knows about grub2?
[05:32] <yagoo> glitch-mod, -s is for sweetness
[05:32] <SunTsu> VampsDaBeast: btw. in case you are new to sound encoding: lossy means that information (that you probably won't hear anyway) is lost while encoding.
[05:32] <yagoo> sianhulo, grub2 is grub2..
[05:32] <yagoo> !ask
[05:33] <glitch-mod> yagoo, ಠ_ಠ
[05:33] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: If you haven't messed with your natty install too much it should work ok
[05:33] <sianhulo> yagoo, something that may be a little more useful xd
[05:33] <iron> I don't mean to be rude, but who was helping me with the ATI drivers issue? :P
[05:33] <SunTsu> VampsDaBeast: problem is: every lossy encoding has a different approach and notion of that, so when reencoding a file that already lost information it will lose even more, which gives you more and more loss and a decrease in quality
[05:33] <new2net> Do I have to piss blood to get ---ANY---- ubuntu version to install?   Installer crashed, bug reporter crashed, then even tho I'm on a live CD i get this message "hey want to upgrade so I can crash again and ruin your whole week"? Its like no, I'll just find a better OS
[05:33] <SunTsu> new2net: or maybe better hardware
[05:33] <yagoo> new2net, thats disgusting
[05:33] <sianhulo> because i'm trying to add a line to boot from my usb, but cannot get it working
[05:34] <chintan> how to hide doc when i maximize any panel ?
[05:34] <chintan> QUESTION = "how to hide doc when i maximize any panel ?"
[05:34] <sianhulo>  somebody knows what is bad with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707747/ (i wan t to boot my usb by grub, the usb is /dev/sdf1)
[05:34] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i";
[05:35] <complexity> dude, why is that freezing
[05:35] <yagoo> chintan, what's your mother language? you're not sounding clear
[05:35] <chintan> how to hide doc when i maximize any panel ?
[05:35] <chintan> hindi
[05:35] <SunTsu> new2net: I'd check back with memtest86 and an urologist
[05:35] <zykotick9> sianhulo, (untested) but you could try to just plug your bootable USB in and run "sudo update-grub" and see if it's auto-added?
[05:35] <yagoo> chintan, you really should um.. use the right words.. it is not possible to understand what you're asking
[05:36] <sianhulo> zykotick9, it's been added, and i can't see it in grub menu, the problem is that i can't boot it(the problem is not my usb because i used it to install ubuntu in another computer)
[05:36] <sianhulo> so the problem is my sintaxis, but i don't know where the error is
[05:36] <edogaa> HEy, how do I get hdmi audio working with the OSS drivers on radeon?
[05:37] <abhinav_singh> how do i switch back to unity from ubuntu classic in 11.04
[05:37] <edogaa> it seems hdmi audio for the r600-700 series works...
[05:37] <edogaa> from what i saw on the status matrix...but i can't figure out how
[05:37] <zykotick9> !classic | abhinav_singh reverse these directions
[05:37] <D_Russ> abhinav_singh, log out and look at the bottom
[05:38] <Reallycool> It would appear I broke my system's appearance settings, is there a way to reset them to defaults?
[05:38] <mongo> i'm actually liking xubuntu
[05:38] <yagoo> Reallycool, probably one of the default themes..
[05:38] <Mike9863> Are all my packages taking a long time to download because of the new release being downloaded by others?
[05:39] <coppro> Hi there. Oneiric removed the gnome power and volume tray applets. What equivalent does it have? I am not using Unity.
[05:39] <yagoo> Mike9863, maybe its a slow mirror.
[05:39] <Mike9863> yagoo: Well I'm getting speeds of about 10KB/s. Anything I can do?
[05:39] <SinnerNyx> i'm having an issue where I'm running a grep, and I want it to run in the background, so I press CTRL+Z. and it shows the grep job as "STOPPED". When I type bg though it still shows the job as STOPPED. I've also tried "bg 1" however this still shows the same job as stopped....
[05:39] <SinnerNyx> am I missing something?
[05:40] <yagoo> Mike9863, 10 kilobytes? that's even slower than a 28.8 modem for crying out loud
[05:40] <yagoo> Mike9863, it'll take a million years to download a meg at that rate..
[05:41] <Reallycool> yagoo: changing UI themes does nothing at all
[05:41] <phlak_user> rage: its in the universe repos
[05:41] <yagoo> SinnerNyx, try bg %1
[05:41] <Mike9863> yagoo: Yeah I don't know what's going on. I'm just using the Update Manager as I always do.
[05:41] <SinnerNyx> yagoo, same
[05:42] <yagoo> Reallycool,  u can probably copy a non-modified theme from /usr/share (not sure exactly).. and copy it back into your themes folder..
[05:42] <yagoo> SinnerNyx, u tried fg %1 ?
[05:42] <SinnerNyx> nope lemme give that a shot
[05:42] <yagoo> then change ttys
[05:43] <yagoo> and see if that process is still running
[05:44] <yagoo> Mike9863, i never use the gui tools for package management.. maybe there's a mirror select somewhere..
[05:44] <yagoo> lol
[05:44] <yagoo> anyone knows?
[05:45] <yagoo> (do tell Mike9863)
[05:45] <seven_> hey i need help, i just installed ubuntu 11.10, my keyboard lights wont turn on
[05:45] <yagoo> seven_, lol.. comeon that's not an emergency :p
[05:45] <yagoo> seven_, at least the keys work right? LOL
[05:45] <seven_> well im in the dark
[05:45] <edogaa> wow...why is kde so slow lol
[05:46] <seven_> i cant see my keyboard
[05:46] <yagoo> seven_, is the keyboard plugged in? :)
[05:46] <seven_> im on a laptop
[05:46] <SinnerNyx> yagoo fg %1 appears to work fine...
[05:46] <yagoo> SinnerNyx, good
[05:46] <seven_> asus g73s
[05:46] <seven_> it worked with 11.04
[05:46] <fadezero> hey guy how do i know if my firewall is on, im new to ubuntu
[05:46] <SinnerNyx> yagoo, but i need to run in the background...
[05:46] <yagoo> SinnerNyx, btw, if u'r using ssh.. u may want to look at screen (if ssh breaks a connection-- u can relog back in and use screen -RR)
[05:47] <zykotick9> !u | yagoo
[05:47] <yagoo> (screen is a multiplexer for text console-- allows to resume broken terminal connection)
[05:47] <SinnerNyx> yagoo, not ssh, regular command line in virtualbox guest
[05:47] <sianhulo> yeah, I know I'm becoming annoying, but... somebody knows what is bad with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707747/ (i wan t to boot my usb by grub, the usb is /dev/sdf1)
[05:47] <seven_> any experts in here :/
[05:47] <seven_> i dont wanna go back to windows
[05:48] <fadezero> can anyone help me with setting up my firewall in ubuntu
[05:48] <zykotick9> sianhulo, it's probably not sdf1 if you boot it - can you use UUID or labels instead? (i'm not sure, just making suggestion)
[05:48] <yagoo> sianhulo, looks like u have 6 harddrives
[05:48] <sianhulo> seven_, i don't know, that seems pretty strange to me
[05:48] <mint> hi guys, I just installed 11.10 over my mint 11 partition and when I try to boot I get sent to the grub rescue thing with "invalid arch independent elf magic"
[05:48] <mint> anyone know what that is about?
[05:48] <seven_> yeah me too sianhulo
[05:48] <mint> tried reinstalling grub from the live cd but it did not help
[05:48] <seven_> the hotkeys work
[05:48] <seven_> but the keyboard wont light up
[05:49] <sianhulo> zykotick9, i don't know how to use UUID
[05:49] <yagoo> seven_, what laptop is it?
[05:49] <yagoo> !uuid
[05:49] <zykotick9> sianhulo, well good luck, hopefully someone has a real answer for you.
[05:50] <yagoo> zykotick9, hfsplus implies OSX
[05:50] <fowl> seven_: hows the g73s? im on the precursor g73jw
[05:50] <gofazi> if i remove pulse audio should alsa auto work after a reboot or is there some setup to do?
[05:50] <sianhulo> no, i have been googling for a while, and i think there's no way you can use UUID
[05:50] <symaxian> Hm, in 11.10 the mouse is offset by a few hundred pixels when in expo on my system, dual monitors under AMD
[05:51] <yagoo> sianhulo, UUID is used in /etc/fstab and kernel bootlines
[05:51] <mariano> From time to time, I get these little orange circles with arrows around my windows and they make the window that I'm on shake or snap to a specific place. What are these things? I don't even know how I am activating this function.
[05:51] <seven_> i have
[05:51] <sianhulo> yagoo, but i mean to use grub2
[05:51] <seven_> ASUS G73
[05:51] <yagoo> sianhulo, grub.cfg <<< UUID for your kernel bootlines
[05:51] <zeelot-livecd> no one knows what my issue could be? sites seem to tell me to reinstall grub but it doesn't solve it for me
[05:51] <seven_> yagoo ASUS G73SW
[05:52] <sianhulo> yagoo, but i'm trying to boot from an usb, ky kernel configuration is all right
[05:52] <Datz> Hi, will there be a way to fall back to gnome 2 for future releases?
[05:52] <urlin2u> Datz, no
[05:52] <seven_> fowl its nice but trying to get my keyboard backlights to work
[05:52] <yagoo> sianhulo, to boot from usb. ur bios needs to support booting from usb
[05:52] <Datz> this saddens me
[05:52] <gofazi> if i remove pulse audio should alsa auto work after a reboot or is there some setup to do?
[05:53] <sianhulo> yagoo,  but it "doesn't" so i'm trying from grub, I AM sure that is is possible
[05:53] <urlin2u> Datz, gnome 2 is not supported by its own designers anymotre
[05:53] <Question> Hello. I got a question. Every time when i start my Laptop i have to choose what i want to start in bios. for example : 1. Ubuntu Normal 2. Ubuntu restoration etc etc... How can i set, that ubuntu normal always start?
[05:53] <yagoo> seven_, there's a link for the keyboard on this site http://www.linlap.com/wiki/asus+g73sw
[05:53] <seven_> everything is working except my key my keyboard back light
[05:53] <keyboardtalk> Why is there no authentication when booting into recovery mode? I am given root shell access with no password prompt
[05:54] <faryshta> Hello problems with broadcom here.
[05:54] <faryshta> Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
[05:54] <mariano> Is anyone else having a difficult time adjusting their laptop's display brightness?
[05:54] <seven_> there is no fix there yagoo
[05:54] <yagoo> seven_, checkout "Put this in your rc.local" from http://scottsautorepair.net/microsoft.sucks/G73SW.keyboard.lights.html
[05:54] <Datz> urlin2u: I don't know what the community is going to do without gnome2.. I can't stand unity or gnome shell.
[05:54] <yagoo> seven_, i said a link.. i just posted above..
[05:54] <faryshta> Does someone here know how to make a broadcom wifi work?
[05:54] <yagoo> seven_, geez..
[05:54] <urlin2u> !broadcom | faryshta
[05:54] <seven_> yes yagoo thats a fix for 11.04
[05:54] <seven_> it doesnt work for 11.10
[05:54] <glebihan> Datz, you can use gnome-fallback-session + gnome-panel
[05:54] <seven_> when i try it, ubuntu wont reboot
[05:55] <fade_> hey guys does the firewall automatically activates in ubuntu?
[05:55] <yagoo> seven_, if none of ur current kernels can support the backlit.. then probably u have to do your own compiling :/
[05:55] <Datz> glebihan: thanks. It's either that or have to go with debian for awhile. :-/
[05:56] <seven_> well
[05:56] <zykotick9> fade_, nope
[05:56] <seven_> there is one that works for 11.04
[05:56] <sianhulo> seven_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1752900
[05:56] <seven_> its just on the new one
[05:56] <urlin2u> Datz, personally  just adapted although I have multiple OS on my computer one has gnome 2.
[05:56] <urlin2u> I*
[05:56] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, that's better.. non password on recovery boot.. i dont see anything wrong with that
[05:56] <Question> Hey Gusys. When i start my Laptop. I got to choose everytime what i want to start. Like Ubuntu restoration , or Ubuntu Normal.. How can i set it off ?
[05:56] <gofazi> if i remove pulse audio should alsa auto work after a reboot or is there some setup to do?
[05:56] <phlak_user> rage: i installed gnome-tweak-tool but there still seems no option for colors though there is a host of other stuff
[05:57] <keyboardtalk> yagoo: isn't this a security hole? anyone can boot the computer into recovery and gain full access to the system
[05:57] <phlak_user> Question: set default time to 0
[05:57] <yagoo> Question, u set a default #, in the grub.cfg file ...
[05:57] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, dunno.. disable it then..
[05:57] <seven_> sianhulo thats for 11.04
[05:57] <Datz> urlin2u: yea, I can try to adapt as well. but gnome shell is more difficult to use... it's a step back
[05:57] <seven_> i have 11.10
[05:57] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, u can also set passwords to grub ..
[05:57] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, or simply set a password to the bios..
[05:57] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, to do anything you will have to use a password a cli does not= full control
[05:58] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, so a password is needed after the bios-boot test
[05:58] <mariano> From time to time, I get these little orange circles with arrows around my windows and they make the window that I'm on shake or snap to a specific place. What are these things? I don't even know how I am activating this function. Help.
[05:58] <Question> yagoo: where can i find this file ?
[05:58] <Datz> maybe KDE is the way to go
[05:58] <sianhulo> seven_ wont hurt to try
[05:58] <keyboardtalk> yagoo: I have a bios password, but other users may not
[05:58] <phlak_user> Question:  change this line in /etc/default/grub  GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 (to 0) and run update-grub2
[05:58] <yagoo> Question, /boot/grub/grub.cfg -- there should be a line near the beginning -- it may be "set default .." or "default" (default numbering starts from 0)
[05:58] <sianhulo> the problem is that i know if you can use an old kernel version...
[05:58] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: I was able to change the passwords for all users
[05:59] <urlin2u> mariano, get a screen shot if you can it sounds like a compiz setup.
[05:59] <zykotick9> Question, yagoo's suggestion is actually a poor one.  grub.cfg says "do not edit" for good reason, it's reset every time you update kernel/grub - use phlak_user's suggestion instead
[05:59] <symaxian> Wow, right after bootup there is a handful of regressions with expo and dual monitors on 11.10
[05:59] <mariano> ok i'll try it
[05:59] <yagoo> zykotick9, it's a simple fix..
[05:59] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, with a password change prompt right.
[05:59] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: yes
[05:59] <yagoo> zykotick9, i don't believe theres any permanent solution for setting a default for grub2.
[05:59] <gofazi> if i remove pulse audio should alsa auto work after a reboot or is there some setup to do?
[05:59] <yagoo> zykotick9, unless u have a better one.
[05:59] <yagoo> lol
[05:59] <zykotick9> yagoo, /etc/default/grub
[06:00] <yagoo> yah.
[06:00] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, same will work in a logged in regular session, your need to do some study bro.
[06:00] <yagoo> but update the kernels..
[06:00] <yagoo> boom.
[06:00] <faryshta> urlin2u: do you know where to get the drivers after I installed the bcwml-kernel-source package?
[06:00] <phlak_user> yagoo: nope
[06:00] <yagoo> numbering can change..
[06:00] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: You mean I can change any other user's password?
[06:01] <urlin2u> faryshta, not really i think the link says it all right, as far a s cards I have never had to do this, most seem served by the link.
[06:01] <faryshta> Where can I get the drivers for a broadcom?
[06:01] <faryshta> urlin2u: the links says that 'Aditional drivers' should work now but it doesn't.
[06:01] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, from a super user state yes.
[06:02] <urlin2u> faryshta, I can't really help beyond the link it is beyond my pay rate. :D
[06:02] <faryshta> Where can I get the drivers for a broadcom?
[06:02] <joshua__> Hey guys, I'm unable to get Ubuntu to boot with Unity.  Can anyone help?
[06:02] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: But the point is that you shouldn't be able to reach super user state without a password or some other authentication. Recovery mode just gives it to you
[06:02] <phlak_user> joshua__: what version, what error?
[06:02] <Lewoco__> How does Ubuntu's release numbering work? I just discovered 10.04 is newer than 10.10 ?
[06:03] <n1ko> no it isnt
[06:03] <n1ko> year.month
[06:03] <faryshta> Does someone owns a broadcom wifi here?
[06:03] <phlak_user> Lewoco__: it isnt; its LTS which means it has Long Term Support and hence is supported longer than the others
[06:03] <glitch-mod> My sound it still fubar, listed under sound --> hardware = blank
[06:03] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, you changed the password to get there it is part of the deal, if you want to lock out anybody else including yourself if you loose the password, you need a password protected bios
[06:03] <joshua__> Ubuntu 11.04.  There isn't really an error, so far.  From the moment I installed it, I've loaded into the very basic (gnome, I guess?) ui, instead of Unity.
[06:04] <phlak_user> joshua__: if you selected gnome (it would be unity), if you selected gnome-classic (its without)
[06:04] <faryshta> how can I make a broadcom wifi work?
[06:04] <phlak_user> joshua__: you can select the environment as soon as you enter your username
[06:04] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: What if my harddrive is placed into a different system?
[06:04] <s1> faryshta: hey , check it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:05] <glitch-mod> Hardware is detected, just successfully installed ati drivers from official binary but still no sound halp!
[06:05] <cousin_luigi> hello
[06:05] <joshua__> I'll show you a screencap of my desktop.  (left is Ubuntu, right is a vm)  It's too simple to be Unity, I think? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/screenshotbcar.png/
[06:05] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, you have to invetigate your own safety this is ubuntu support not what if I get hit in the head with a comet and the aliens steal my HD LOL.
[06:05] <cousin_luigi> gnome-shell keeps falling back into gnome-classic
[06:05] <cousin_luigi> any idea why?
[06:05] <mariano> urlin2u: where should I upload the picture to?
[06:06] <faryshta> s1 I did. It says that I should have the drivers with the 'aditional drivers' tool but I can't see them.
[06:06] <faryshta> how can I make a broadcom wifi work in 11.10?
[06:06] <abhijeet> hey guys. . I installed the ubuntu 11.10 and next time when I boot my unity got crashed and now I am only getting a white bar at the top... :(   How can i restore the unity?
[06:06] <urlin2u> mariano, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[06:07] <yagoo> faryshta, did u check the broadcom site?
[06:07] <joshua__> Is that what my desktop is supposed to look like?  I haven't told it to boot in classic mode, or anything.
[06:07] <glitch-mod> under my sound output menu it says
[06:07] <glitch-mod> 'dummy output'
[06:07] <yagoo> glitch-mod, lol
[06:07] <faryshta> yagoo: which one? I checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and didn't work.
[06:07]  * glitch-mod accidentally hit enter
[06:07] <phlak_user> joshua__: you're right; it looks like classic; can you check what de is selected for session when you enter your username at login (its at the bottom generally)
[06:07] <vlad> i tested ubuntu 11.10 last 12 hours. new ubuntu is great...fail
[06:07] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, I'm just joking with you, but a context with perspective is needed for this channel. There are other places to get super security answers
[06:07] <yagoo> glitch-mod, if that was anything but dummy output that was the one :)
[06:08] <s1> faryshta: then check if the driver is loadded.
[06:08] <glitch-mod> yagoo, There is nothing else to pick
[06:08] <joshua__> Hold on.  I may have to leave/restart to find out.  I'll pay attention this time, but I don't think it said...  Hold on.
[06:08] <Question> phlak_user: When i want to save it, they tell me i dont got the rights. ?!
[06:08] <mariano> urlin2u: The circles appear randomly when I'm using the touchpad. I don't know if I'm activating them by accident or what. Here is the link: http://imagebin.org/178922
[06:08] <yagoo> glitch-mod, see if soundcore is load (lsmod |grep -i sound)
[06:08] <xjjk> hello, I just installed the AMD64 version of oneiric; is there a way to turn off the multiarch stuff?
[06:08] <cousin_luigi> nevermind, managed with gnome-shell
[06:08] <faryshta> s1 how?
[06:08] <xjjk> it lists double packages in aptitude
[06:08] <phlak_user> Question:  did you use sudo before the edit command?
[06:08] <xjjk> I've no nead for any 32-bit packages
[06:08] <yagoo> faryshta, so what bcmXXX number is your chipset?
[06:09] <cousin_luigi> Is it possible to change the lightdm theme?
[06:09] <faryshta> yagoo: BCM5787M
[06:09] <Question> im right in the folder
[06:09] <yagoo> faryshta, that page is not for bcm5xxxx
[06:09] <phlak_user> mariano: those look like resize handles
[06:09] <yagoo> faryshta, use a bit of logic man
[06:09] <glitch-mod> yagoo, it returned a value so I guess its loaded
[06:09] <[deXter]> Hi all; unable to launch Unity 2D on my system. I select it from the login screen but it still starts the regular unity..
[06:09] <Question> Ah okay
[06:09] <Question> I try it again :D
[06:09] <urlin2u> mariano, hmm I have not seen those circles, have you messed with compiz?
[06:09] <zykotick9> xjjk, i highly doubt it - multiarch is in debian's wheezy/sid - and thus ubuntu
[06:09] <phlak_user> Question: ok
[06:10] <faryshta> yagoo: you are NOT helping.
[06:10] <xjjk> zykotick9: I don't see double-package listings in debian wheezy/sid
[06:10] <xjjk> I'm not sure what Ubuntu is doing
[06:10] <mariano> Nope, I just installed ubuntu 11.10. The only thing that I've done is to enable two finger scrolling.
[06:10] <glitch-mod> yagoo, its telling me I'm using snd-hda-intel
[06:10] <yagoo> glitch-mod, thats good news..
[06:10] <zykotick9> xjjk, lol - welcome to ubuntu ;)
[06:10] <mariano> urlin2u: I haven't touched anything else.
[06:11] <xjjk> zykotick9: heh, yeah…
[06:11] <yagoo> faryshta, look for bleeding code..
[06:11] <joshua__> Okay.  I'm back.  I'm trying to open the "Ubuntu" session.  Not ubuntu classic.
[06:11] <faryshta> does someone know how to make a broadcom wifi work on 11.10?
[06:11] <yagoo> faryshta, u may have to dig.. but u have to do the right digging.. BCM43xx is not for you
[06:11] <yagoo> (BCM43xx docs is not the right source)
[06:12] <faryshta> does someone know how to make a broadcom wifi work on 11.10?
[06:12] <yagoo> faryshta, chipsets are definite. Either it is a match or it isnt. If there's no match, then it WONT work
[06:12] <yagoo> ^^^^.
[06:12] <phlak_user> joshua__: if you get the launcher panel on the left; it might be an indication that its unity
[06:12] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: trying on mine now
[06:12] <srt42211> so i fuked my phone up
[06:12] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: good I hope yours get to work.
[06:12] <glitch-mod> yagoo, Think this could help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/873132
[06:13] <phlak_user> srt42211: with ubuntu?
[06:13] <Question> alright, doesnt work. Im directly in the folder etc / default / and open the file GRUB. right ?
[06:13] <srt42211> huh
[06:13] <joshua__> No, I don't.  I'm still looking at the same "classic" looking desktop.  I'm pretty sure I'm not in unity.  I have no advanced graphic options, and earlier when I ran the command in the terminal, I was returned "gnome" instead of "Ubuntu"
[06:13] <Operaist2> how do i check ubuntu's available disk size if i installed with wubi?
[06:13] <AsadR> is logwtmp for pptpd broken on Lucid?
[06:13] <yagoo> glitch-mod, absolutely try that.. often laptops with linux -- have this issue with the sound chipsets
[06:13] <urlin2u> mariano, not sure really all I could do is try searxches on google with various word prompts not sure where to start, seems like a compiz thing, as unity is a compiz plugin, but that is just a a theory.
[06:14] <urlin2u> searches*
[06:14] <zykotick9> Operaist2, "df -h" from a terminal should work
[06:14] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: installing firmware-b43-installer did the trick for me
[06:14] <glitch-mod> Thanks yagoo
[06:14] <joshua__> I have checked the Additional Drivers, and the driver for my graphics card says "This Driver is activated, but not currently in use."
[06:14] <mariano> urlin2u: Also, do you know if not being able to adjust my screen display might be a bug in ubuntu?
[06:14] <s1> faryshta: with modprobe , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Drivers
[06:14] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: when you run 'lspci | grep BCM 'on consolE what do you get?
[06:15] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: bcm4318
[06:15] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: thanks.
[06:15] <Question> sind hier auch deutsche helfer? ^^
[06:15] <phlak_user> Question: you have to open it with superuser privileges; if you insist on using the GUI; press alt+f2 and type gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[06:15] <mariano> urlin2u: I've seen a few people have this issue, but not sure if it is a bug. I'm fairly new to linux.
[06:15] <urlin2u> mariano, can you be more specific on what you mean by adjust screen display, do you mean resolution? Did you look in ,monitors?
[06:15] <Flannel> !de | Question
[06:15] <Operaist2> zykotick9: is it possible to increase the size allocated after i installed with wubi?
[06:16] <zykotick9> Operaist2, i wouldn't touch wubi (or a wubi question) with a 30 foot pole.  Good luck.
[06:16] <urlin2u> Operaist2, no is the answer.
[06:16] <mariano> Not resolution. I mean the actual brightness that one is usually able to change on a laptop display via the Fn + shortcut.
[06:16] <yagoo> Question, screw that.. it takes more steps.. just edit the grub.cfg file and add that little number.. yah the default# may change after a new kernel update.. so what.. u can change it back again later..
[06:16] <Question> okay
[06:16] <Question> p
[06:17] <zykotick9> yagoo, seriously - stop giving bad advice
[06:17] <Question> phlak_user: Done
[06:17] <Question> Restart and try ?
[06:17] <urlin2u> mariano, that seems to be a issue for some,I never care I just run it full brightness.
[06:17] <yagoo> zykotick9, at least explain to him how to do it.
[06:17] <phlak_user> Question: sure
[06:17] <yagoo> zykotick9, you're not being helpful.
[06:17] <AsadR> Why would logwtmp for pptpd not be working (not logging anything to wtmp) on 10.04 Lucid
[06:17] <phlak_user> yagoo: he would still need sudo wouldnt he? and you didnt tell him that
[06:17] <TehDGM> goodmorning this morning
[06:17] <edogaa> So, anyone here got hdmi audio working with their radeon card with OSS drivers
[06:17] <Question> i still got to type update-grub2 ?
[06:17] <yagoo> phlak_user, he's smarter than u think he is.
[06:18] <phlak_user> Question: yes, sudo update-grub2
[06:18] <mariano> urlin2u: thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me. :)
[06:18] <phlak_user> yagoo: support isnt about assumptions
[06:18] <urlin2u> mariano, no problem it can be a tough when you investigate a new OS, good luck. :D
[06:19] <zykotick9> phlak_user, if they edit the grub.cfg and run update-grub it is going to remove the changes they made...
[06:19] <Engonyr> How do I install GNOME 3.0 into Ubuntu? Will it break my Unity desktop? Will it install lots of extra applications?
[06:19] <yagoo> phlak_user, help him. he's asking about YOUR and zykotick9 method.
[06:19] <urlin2u> Engonyr, you on 11.10
[06:19] <phlak_user> zykotick9: i know that; i havent asked him to edit grub.cfg; he's editing /etc/default/grub
[06:19] <Engonyr> urlin2u: yes
[06:19] <Engonyr> i mean 3.2, sorry
[06:19] <yagoo> so go on and explain to him.. you didn't explain to him the WHOLE procedure.
[06:19] <urlin2u> Engonyr, it is set to run ubnity and gnome 3
[06:19] <phlak_user> yagoo: i did
[06:19] <glitch-mod> yagoo, added this 'options snd-hda-intel model=auto' to '/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf' but no dice, anything else I can try?
[06:20] <urlin2u> unity*
[06:20] <TehDGM> yea dont edit grub.cfg directly
[06:20] <zykotick9> phlak_user, sorry - thought they might have gotten sidetracked by yagoo's suggestion.
[06:20] <phlak_user> zykotick9: which is quite possible :)
[06:20] <Engonyr> urlin2u: so is GNOME 3 already installed? I've noticed components of it all over Unity, but is the actual desktop installed?
[06:20] <yagoo> glitch-mod, modinfo <*-intel> may list the other type of laptop models u can try..
[06:20] <yagoo> glitch-mod, the name of that hdasndintel module
[06:20] <phlak_user> Question: did you edit /etc/default/grub ?
[06:20] <Question> phlak_user: Alright, it works. Thanks !!
[06:20] <urlin2u> Engonyr, I think you have to install it fully my setup is from a install months ago
[06:20] <phlak_user> Question: phew!
[06:20] <Question> :D
[06:21] <Question> bye
[06:21] <yagoo> phlak_user, and it may change..
[06:21] <yagoo> lol
[06:21] <yagoo> Question, bye
[06:21] <glitch-mod> yagoo, snd-hda-intel
[06:21] <phlak_user> yagoo: chill dude
[06:21] <glitch-mod> yagoo, thats not what you were asking for right...
[06:22] <faryshta_> Does someone have a BCM5787M chipset?
[06:22] <yagoo> glitch-mod, as a regular user, u can try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0
[06:22] <Engonyr> urlin2u: Is "GNOME Shell" in the Ubuntu Software Center the right package?
[06:22] <yagoo> faryshta, u'r confusing me and others.. someone asked u what u get with dmesg|grep -i bcm and u said something with bcm4xxx... u're repeating this BCM5xxx number from where?
[06:22] <pangolin> !notunity | Engonyr
[06:22] <faryshta_> yagoo:  I never did.
[06:22]  * phlak_user is going to reboot into 11.04; enough playing with 11.10
[06:23] <roberto> Hello i will upgrade kubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 bat i have no upgrade option in my upgrademanger
[06:23] <urlin2u> Engonyr, should be, that is what I used originally, dfrom a command line I never use the software center
[06:23] <glitch-mod> yagoo, alsa-utils doesn't exist! could this be the answer to my problem :D
[06:23] <roberto> and apt-get dist-upgrade is not comming
[06:23] <Engonyr> pangolin: thanks
[06:23] <faryshta_> Does someone know how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:23] <Engonyr> urlin2u: Yeah, I know, I used to use apt-get and Synpatic too.. but I prefer the Ubuntu Software Center now.
[06:23] <urlin2u> roberto, you can't do that upgrade
[06:23] <glitch-mod> nvmd
[06:23] <edogaa> sigh gotta go see ya
[06:24] <joshua__> Can anyone help me try to get Unity working in my Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:24] <zykotick9> roberto, FYI by default LTS will only upgrade to another LTS - it can be changed, but i wouldn't know how
[06:24] <roberto> becorse? @urlin2u
[06:24] <Engonyr> urlin2u: anyway, thanks for the help. I'm off to log into GNOME 3. :)
[06:24] <urlin2u> Engonyr, cool
[06:24] <roberto> me PC is upgrade but my notbook not?
[06:24] <urlin2u> roberto, you can only go from long term to longterm, 11.10 is not a longterm.
[06:24] <pangolin> !upgrade | roberto
[06:25] <faryshta_> Does someone know how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:25] <glitch-mod> yagoo, only thing under /etc/init.d/alsa-  is 'store' and 'restore'
[06:25] <yagoo> faryshta_, lsmod|grep -i tg3
[06:25] <yagoo> glitch-mod, maybe it's one of those.. they may have changed the name (perhaps a wiki can give a hint on this)
[06:26] <tanath> i upgraded to 11.10 with gnome-session-fallback and decided to compare gnome-shell and unity so installed them. they don't show up at login screen though. O_o
[06:26] <faryshta_> Does someone know how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:26] <tanath> also, login screen is now ugly
[06:26] <Question> Alright. i got a another question :D I want to see all my systemdata clear. is there any possibility? programm ?
[06:27] <tanath> bright blue. wallpaper is gone
[06:27] <c_smith> Hey, being as libmp4v2  is deleted from Oneiric, what is an equivelant of it that is still in the repos?
[06:27] <urlin2u> tanath, what did you upgrade from Natty?
[06:27] <tanath> urlin2u, yep
[06:27] <yagoo> faryshta_, 2008 forums show people have been trying this.. it's at least 3 years that chipset was released.. it should be workable.. I even gave u a hint on the module name.
[06:27] <urlin2u> tanath, are you sure you got a clean upgrade, and what is the grapghic card?
[06:28] <faryshta_> Does someone know how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:28] <urlin2u> graphic*
[06:28] <faryshta_> yagoo: you are NOT helping.
[06:28] <yagoo> ^ that's spamming.
[06:28] <tanath> urlin2u, nope. i had to upgrade through aptitude actually
[06:28] <tanath> urlin2u, nvidia
[06:28] <joshua__> Hey, does anyone know of another channel that might be less busy where I could get some help with getting Unity working?
[06:28] <urlin2u> tanath, you need to reload the card graphics at the least.
[06:28] <urlin2u> driver*
[06:28] <yagoo> joshua__, #linux ?
[06:29] <urlin2u> tanath, the drivers don't follow a upgrade.
[06:29] <Question> yagoo: is there any program where i can see all my systemdata clearly ?
[06:29] <yagoo> joshua__, the busier the better..
[06:29] <tanath> urlin2u, i did run jockey and tried to switch to an apparently more updated driver. said it failed and to check log. log said it succeeded
[06:29] <yagoo> Question, ?
[06:29] <illmortal> so uh.. anyone know if there's a fix for Deluge after the 11.10 upgrade?
[06:29] <faryshta_> Anyone has a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:29] <yagoo> Question, u have to know what you're trying to fix.
[06:29] <tanath> urlin2u, far as i could tell at a glance anyway
[06:29]  * yagoo thinks faryshta_ has asked the same question at least 20 times in 4 minutes..
[06:30] <Question> I just want to see my systemdatas
[06:30] <joshua__> yagoo, except for the people who can't get help.  Lol
[06:30] <urlin2u> tanath, this is out of my general knowledge area, other then knowing about the reloads after a upgrade
[06:30] <faryshta_> yagoo can you stop talking to me?
[06:30] <tanath> urlin2u, anyway, why would unity & gnome-shell not add themselves to login screen?
[06:30] <roberto> thx danke :-)
[06:30] <Question> like everesthome for windows
[06:30] <illmortal> just do an sudo apt-get install gnome  and it'll be on the log in screen lis
[06:30] <illmortal> list*
[06:31] <illmortal> unity sucks... maybe good for touchpads and netbooks.. but definitely not for people on desktops.
[06:31] <ecolitan> hello, is it possible to make the do-release-upgrade script just calculate the packages and download them, then stop?
[06:31] <Engonyr> Well.. tried GNOME shell, did not like. To my surprise, I actually prefer Unity in 11.10.
[06:31] <pangolin> faryshta_: take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/156833 comment #9 and #10 may be helpful to you.
[06:31] <tanath> illmortal, i don't want evolution and all the rest. already installed gnome-shell
[06:31] <TehDGM> illmortal: +1
[06:32] <yagoo> pangolin, i tried telling them commands but they refuse to.. he doesnt know how to use console
[06:32] <faryshta_> pangolin: thanks I already tried.
[06:32] <ch3mi0n> Enlightenment ftw
[06:32] <tanath> illmortal, i was of that opinion last i used it. i'm trying to give it another chance. apparently it's improved
[06:32] <illmortal> anyone using Deluge after the upgrade to 11.10? Can't connect with it anymore.
[06:32] <faryshta_> yagoo: quit the harassment please.
[06:32] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, that still exists?
[06:32] <illmortal> tanath..  And my UI was completely broken on top of that thanks to the conflict between unity, compiz, and emerald
[06:34] <faryshta_> pangolin: when I run 'modprobe iwl3945' I get: 'WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx.conf: No such file or directory'
[06:34] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, i can live off ratpoison if u know what i mean :).. thought enlightment went extinct..
[06:34] <tanath> illmortal, just tested deluge. works great for me
[06:34] <dc5ala> any known issue with oneiric not updating screen properly? Like when typing etc.
[06:34] <ch3mi0n> yagoo, I don't know, actually...
[06:34] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, ratpoinson the light wm :)
[06:35] <pangolin> faryshta_: I'm sorry I don't know how to help. I found the link after searching a little and thought maybe it would be useful.
[06:35] <ch3mi0n> Never heard of that one
[06:35] <tanath> TehDGM, i'm very adaptable. still didn't like unity
[06:35] <tanath> i'm liking even less that i'm trying to give it another shot and ubuntu is failing
[06:35] <illmortal> hmm... when I open it. I get a Connection Manager pop up window (never had that before, I don't think). I select it, click, "Connect" and it does nothing, tanath.
[06:35] <faryshta_> pangolin: no problem. Thanks.
[06:35] <ch3mi0n> I think Unity has potential, it just needs to emulate gnome-do more
[06:35] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, i cant stand unity..
[06:35] <tanath> illmortal, sounds like another connection issue other than deluge. i got no such popup
[06:36] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, it's too tabletty
[06:36] <urlin2u> ch3mi0n, gnome-do that makes no sense.
[06:36] <tanath> lol
[06:36] <yagoo> tabltetydo gnome-doalike :p
[06:36] <tanath> gnome-do is bloody great
[06:36] <pangolin> ch3mi0n yagoo could you please take the non support convo elsewhere, $ubuntu-offtopic is a good place.
[06:36] <TehDGM> no the major issue with unity in my opinion is that if you want to do more then just browsing and text editing, it gets in your way rather then helping you. changing a simple configuration takes 5 clicks instead of 2 in regular gnome.
[06:36] <ch3mi0n> I personally run most programs fullscreen anyway, so Unity+maximize is awesome
[06:36] <Karwan> upgrading now :-) (dispite my misgivings about unity)
[06:36] <tanath> if only it didn't crash so much
[06:36]  * TehDGM mumbers something about maximum menu depths
[06:36] <pangolin> s/$/#/
[06:36] <ch3mi0n> urlin2u: ??
[06:36] <jiltdil> Is this speed ok , i am transfering it from my one partiton to other http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/screenshotxle.png/
[06:36] <illmortal> interesting... this time I clicked, "start daemon" and it pops up with an error, "deluge cannot find the deluged executable, it is likely that you forgot to install the deluged package or it's not in your PATH" lol.. I just finished re-installing it too.
[06:37] <ch3mi0n> pangolin: ok
[06:37] <jiltdil> using 64bit
[06:37] <cjs> So, when I moved from 11.04 to 11.10, fvwm over Gnome still works ok for me, but gnome-panel seems to ignore all my customized settings from earlier versions (presumably saved under .gconf). Any thoughts?
[06:37] <urlin2u> ch3mi0n, "I think Unity has potential, it just needs to emulate gnome-do more" gnome3-do is not even a dektop.
[06:37] <tanath> i like that 11.10 seems faster... now i just need it to _work_
[06:37] <ch3mi0n> urlin2u: didn't say it was
[06:38] <tanath> urlin2u, he's comparing gnome-do to the unity launcher
[06:38] <ch3mi0n> urlin2u: unity isn't a "desktop" either... I'm moving to #ubuntu-offtopic so people trying to get help aren't drowned out by our chat
[06:38] <tanath> or getting just about anything done in unity :P
[06:38] <urlin2u> synapse, and the cube, and docky make unity work nicely for me.
[06:39] <tanath> urlin2u, tried synapse and others, but they don't do everything gnome-do does, like pidgin contacts
[06:39] <dr_willis> cube and 'work' are rarely terms used together ;)
[06:39] <joshua__> So, anyone up for trying to get Unity to work?  Not that we've all established that it sucks?
[06:39] <frhodes> is there a bash command to switch users with gdm?
[06:39] <tanath> do like how synapse is lightweight though
[06:39] <ch3mi0n> Guess there's not actually anyone in that chan
[06:39] <joshua__> now*
[06:39] <jiltdil> dr_willis: +1
[06:39] <urlin2u> dr_willis, gotta know how to do it.
[06:39] <tanath> joshua__, me, lol. can't log in to it. not on list >_<
[06:39] <pangolin> ch3mi0n: of course there is, 242 users
[06:39] <dr_willis> frhodes:  you mean logout user 1 and login user 2
[06:40] <joshua__> Me too.   Same problem.
[06:40] <joshua__> I think it has something to do with the Nvidia Graphics card I have.
[06:40] <ch3mi0n> pangolin: bleh, empathy must be messing up then
[06:40] <tanath> ok, so why did nautilus forget my folder view settings on upgrade? >_<
[06:40] <faryshta> Does someone knows how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:40] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, unity is what makes ubuntu.. i dont see how its not a big part of ubuntu.
[06:41] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, but i just commented on it that i dont really use -- hence cant help u with it..
[06:41] <ch3mi0n> huh?
[06:41] <tanath> and where's the icons to switch views? >_<
[06:41] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, yup.. unity is a ubuntu-only project..
[06:41] <ch3mi0n> ....
[06:41] <ch3mi0n> Are you having a conversation with yourself by using my name?
[06:42] <tanath> why do they have to keep removing useful features from everything? >_<
[06:42] <yagoo> seems like you don't remember too well.
[06:42]  * yagoo likes the real geek stuff of ubuntu
[06:42] <ch3mi0n> When did I say unity wasn't a big part of ubu?
[06:42]  * jiltdil ubuntu seems that in some years it will like windows :P
[06:42] <yagoo> pfft
[06:43] <faryshta> Does someone knows how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:43] <ch3mi0n> They made it the default, what, with 10.04? 9.10?
[06:43] <dr_willis> windiws in a few years may be like unity
[06:43] <dr_willis> !bcm
[06:43] <urlin2u> faryshta, after you did the link voodoo did you logout or reboot?
[06:43] <faryshta> urlin2u: reboot
[06:43] <yagoo> ok.. im out this spammer is really getting to be annoying.
[06:43] <yagoo> gnite folks
[06:44] <tanath> anyone using compiz window previews and find they don't go away 'til you make them? >_<
[06:44] <tanath> so many things broken
[06:44] <ch3mi0n> Finally got empathy to cooperate and join #ubuntu-offtopic properly, moving conversation there
[06:44] <faryshta> urlin2u: the link wasn't useful. I still can't see the drivers on the 'aditional driver' featuer.
[06:45] <urlin2u> faryshta, is that a yes, the deal here is not to repeat yourself often for one, second to give details when you post, otherwise you will get ignored to be honest.
[06:45] <faryshta> urlin2u: what details you need?
[06:46] <tanath> so i had a theme i customized and loved. now on upgrade it's gone and appearance no longer has theme details
[06:46] <urlin2u> faryshta, I cant help you but here is what the bot says.
[06:46] <urlin2u> !details
[06:46] <dr_willis> tanath:  gnome3 does themes differently
[06:46] <faryshta> BCM5787M on ubuntu 11.10 isn't working.
[06:46] <cousin_luigi> Any idea how to change the lightdm theme?
[06:46] <urlin2u> !repeat | faryshta
[06:47] <faryshta> urlin2u: I gave the details you asked.
[06:47] <Engonyr> Joining into the Unity discussion..
[06:47] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi:  seen some docs about doing that online at the webupd8 blog site i belive
[06:47] <Engonyr> I find this version of Unity is _really_ polished
[06:47] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: ok
[06:47] <Engonyr> it hasn't crashed on me once
[06:47] <Engonyr> the Dash is awesome
[06:47] <zaapiel> unity sucks
[06:47] <urlin2u> faryshta, I CAN"T help you but others can read what the bot says for general posting, and reapeating.
[06:47] <zaapiel> dont praise it
[06:47] <jiltdil> dr_willis: please have a look is this speed good m transfering from one partition to another  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/screenshotxle.png/   using 64bit os 4g ram
[06:47] <zaapiel> they wont change it unless everyone compalins
[06:47] <Engonyr> zaapiel: that's your opinion. My opinion is that it rocks.
[06:47] <zaapiel> occupy #ubuntu till unity is dropped
[06:48] <glitch-mod> Can someone help with a sound issue?  http://imgur.com/Y9IMd
[06:48] <faryshta> You can't help me that is ok. Mind if I keep asking for OTHERS to help me?
[06:48] <faryshta> Thank you urlin2u
[06:48] <cousin_luigi> zaapiel: I've heard worse ideas.
[06:48] <tanath> dr_willis, i'm not sure i'm even in gnome 3. i can't bloody right click the panel anymore
[06:48] <truongan> i have a broblem with ubuntu-restricted-extras, can anyone help ?
[06:48] <Engonyr> i'll just join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:48] <tanath> can't move things with middle-click anymore either >_<
[06:48] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  the kind of hd and connection will matter more then the 64/32 bitness or ram size
[06:48] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: did it work with 11.04?
[06:48] <urlin2u> faryshta, within channel rules I am not trying to censor you but get you help by useing them.
[06:49] <zaapiel> http://i.imgur.com/76RkJ.png
[06:49] <jiltdil> dr_willis: hm its sata
[06:49] <joshua__> Can anyone tell me why I get this outcome when running this terminal command to test for the ability to run Unity? http://pastebin.com/vgcinuQa
[06:49] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: I don't know. I have a different chipset than you.
[06:49] <killown> When I did upgrade to 11.10 it does not install lightDM and alot other things that is necessary for the system, like the network manager... why the upgrade from update manager does not the right job?
[06:49] <tanath> gah, can someone just help me get gnome-shell and/or unity into the login screen so i can use one?
[06:49] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: I mean did your card work with the previous version of ubuntu?
[06:50] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  one hd to another sata or one partion to a 2nd partition?    no usb hds ?
[06:50] <tanath> zaapiel, made non-default is more reasonable
[06:50] <jiltdil> dr_willis: one partition to anotehr
[06:51] <urlin2u> tanath, until you get the nvidia card up and running you will not get those desktops I'm quite sure, they are 3d, although there is a 2d unity, not sure in 11.10 though
[06:51] <jiltdil> dr_willis: no usb hds
[06:51] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: yes but not out of the box. It worked pretty bad. I used the same steps as before with no results.
[06:51] <killown> Is there something like apt-get install ubuntu-base ?
[06:51] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  and you think your speeds are low or what exactly?
[06:51] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: ndiswrapper, by any chance?
[06:51] <faryshta> My BCM5787M  chipset on ubuntu 11.10 isn't working. Does someone know how to help?
[06:51] <tanath> urlin2u, i'm not even talking about getting them working necessarily. they're not even options at login right now. THAT'S the problem
[06:51] <c_smith> is there an equivellant of mpeg4v2 in Oneiric that I can use with GTKpod?
[06:51] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: that is my last resource.
[06:51] <jiltdil> dr_willis: Actaully sometimes i get almost of 100 so i think it might be some slow in this case
[06:52] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: what steps did you use in the past?
[06:52] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i";, why won't that go through
[06:52] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: The ndiswrapper site doesn't mention my chipset and its not a native driver.
[06:52] <complexity> please help
[06:52] <urlin2u> tanath, because the system is set to not load them there until they will work I believe, I think your trying to put the cart before the horse.
[06:52] <dr_willis> complexity:  why the "" marks
[06:53] <tanath> urlin2u, o_O
[06:53] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/3642171/wifi-en-fedora-_broadcom_-muy-facil.html
[06:53] <complexity> dr_willis, no idea someone recommended I use them
[06:53] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: replacing yum with apt of course.
[06:53] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: I am rebooting wish me luck.
[06:54] <cjs> God. I am so sick of getting fucked over by Gnome every time I upgrade Ubuntu.
[06:54] <dr_willis> complexity:  i think you may want to spend an hr learninf bash basics. earlier someone gave you a complex command to do all files in a dir. you just pasted part of their example
[06:54] <tanath> urlin2u, 2011-10-14 02:52:32,084 ERROR: xorg:fglrx_updates: get_alternative_by_name(fglrx-updates) returned nothing
[06:54] <urlin2u> !language | cjs
[06:54] <dr_willis> im glad i always do clean installs...
[06:54] <cjs> urlin2u: Sorry.
[06:54] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: not familiar with that, sorry
[06:54] <tanath> urlin2u, it was working before i tried jockey. now driver isn't loaded and i get that error in log
[06:54] <urlin2u> dr_willis, me to always.
[06:55] <tanath> urlin2u, but the entries weren't there before i poked jockey
[06:55]  * jiltdil always prefer to fresh install
[06:55] <urlin2u> tanath, I am not the person to ask for help it is outside of my pay rate.
[06:55] <tanath> lol
[06:56] <urlin2u> tanath, If I new card drivers I would help, but never have had to load one. :D
[06:56] <jiltdil> Is jockey issue fixed in 11.10?
[06:56] <s1> !gnome2
[06:56] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me with a BCM5787M chipset on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:56] <el_seano> !notunity
[06:56] <dr_willis> which issue. ;) of the dozens..
[06:56] <cjs> So how does one configure the unity-2d-panel?
[06:57] <urlin2u> cjs, as in?
[06:57] <cjs> Right-clicking on it doesn't seem to work. (Just like it doesn't work any more in gnome-panel, either.)
[06:57] <c_smith> so, anyone know an alternative to mpeg4v2 and mp4ip for GTKpod?
[06:57] <dr_willis> cjs the webupd8 blog site had an artical on tweaking unity2d
[06:57] <cjs> As in, putting it on the left side rather than the top, changing the colors, etc.
[06:57] <c_smith> being as those two were removed from the repos in Oneiric.
[06:58] <dr_willis> cj s short answer is - i dont think you can do all that any more
[06:58] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me with a BCM5787M chipset on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:59] <killown> How to change the icon theme of the ubuntu 11.10? there is no place to do that...
[06:59] <dr_willis> faryshta_:  you have checked the forums and askubuntu.com also?
[06:59] <dr_willis> killown:  theres a gnome tweak tool.
[06:59] <faryshta_> dr_willis: I checked the forums I didn't knew about ask ubuntu
[06:59] <urlin2u> cjs, you can put a docky on the left never used awn but it probably does as well.
[06:59] <illmortal> ah deluge issue was I had deluge-gtk lol :P
[07:00] <illmortal> had to uninstall deluge + deluge-gtk
[07:00] <cjs> urlin2u: I don't undertand what you just said.
[07:00] <cjs> dr_willis: Ouch!
[07:00] <cjs> urlin2u: Are you talking about alternative panel applications?
[07:00] <urlin2u> cjs, try looking on the web for docky and awn and ubuntu.
[07:00] <urlin2u> cjs, basically yes.
[07:00] <dr_willis> www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[07:01] <dr_willis> has a lot of must read configing info
[07:01] <cousin_luigi> ok, I'm almost done here
[07:01] <cousin_luigi> Does anyone know how to move the window buttons on the right side?
[07:01] <cousin_luigi> (on gnome-classic)
[07:02] <dr_willis> !controls
[07:02] <tanath> how do you increase mouse sensitivity at login? it moves unbearably slow
[07:02] <tanath> urlin2u, so, i reverted to the driver that works and still not showing gnome-shell or unity at login
[07:02] <cjs> urlin2u: Ah, I see. Those look a little, well, "flashy" to me. Basically, I do most launching etc. though FVWM, so I'm just looking mostly for a minimalistic home for the status panel. Do you have thoughts on what might be best for that?
[07:02] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: does that apply to gnome-classic as well?
[07:02] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me with a BCM5787M chipset on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:03] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi:  should.. try it and see..
[07:03] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: it doesn't
[07:03] <tanath> !ask | faryshta_
[07:03] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi:  in 11.04 or 11.10?
[07:03] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: but I remember I had managed to before reinstalling
[07:03] <nnfx> cousin_luigi, sudo -u user /usr/bin/gconftool-2 -s -t string /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[07:03] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: 11.10
[07:03] <faryshta_> tanath I asked a question.
[07:03] <urlin2u> cjs, hard to say really I use synapse mostly to bring up apps but my needs are pretty simple.
[07:04] <tanath> faryshta_, not a useful one
[07:04] <nnfx> cousin_luigi, where user is your login
[07:04] <dr_willis> theres a classic in 11.10?
[07:04] <faryshta_> tanath: again. What is a useful question here?
[07:04] <smw> dr_willis, gnome-panel I think
[07:04] <cousin_luigi> nnfx: trying
[07:04] <metellius> *sigh* Hash sum mismatch, BADSIG, Failed to fetch, bzip2 corruption etc (all related). My upgrade fails at the very first step because of issues download package lists. has anyone else had this? I've seen it on my home pc, and me an several others at work are also getting it
[07:04] <tanath> dr_willis, kinda. install gnome-session-fallback. it's what i'm using...
[07:04] <cjs> urlin2u: What is Synapse? It doesn't sound like anything listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synapse_(disambiguation)
[07:04] <smw> tanath, are any features missing?
[07:04] <dr_willis> thats gnomeshells/g3s failsafe  ;) not the same as classic in 11.04
[07:05] <cjs> My needs are extremely simple, too.
[07:05] <cousin_luigi> nnfx: thanks, it worked!:)
[07:05] <tanath> smw, it's 11.10. there's tons of stuff missing >_<
[07:05] <nnfx> cousin_luigi, ofc it did :)
[07:05] <nemon82papa> i was using beta, and now its all updated... Do i still have to install last release
[07:05] <tanath> dr_willis, well it still says classic at login
[07:05] <slothbag> hey all, is it possible to get synergy to work with lightdm in 11.10?  I only have remote keyboard & mouse to ubuntu box
[07:05] <andyn> just installed 11.10 on my lenovo e325, however, the machine can't boot from the hard disk. might it be related to EFI?
[07:05] <dr_willis> nemon82papa: no
[07:05] <urlin2u> cjs, synapse is similar to gnome-do http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/synapse-gnome-do-launcher-app-review-ubuntu/
[07:05] <smw> tanath, And this is why my laptop still runs 10.10 and my desktop runs 11.04 in classic mode
[07:05] <frooh> so I just upgraded and now when I log into X it shows a full screen nautalis, instead of like, a background and other stuff
[07:06] <frooh> no matter what login options I select that happens
[07:06] <smw> tanath, And I am looking at replacements for ubuntu :-\
[07:06] <cousin_luigi> the only things that remains to be fixed is the flashplugin
[07:06] <tanath> smw, indeed. i thought i'd give unity and gnome-shell a try and regretting it already. can't even get into them.
[07:06] <smw> tanath, are you upset you upgraded?
[07:06] <tanath> smw, yeah i looked around. i might be switching to mint
[07:06] <cousin_luigi> why does flashplugin-installer try to download nspluginwrapper and all that jazz even when it does exist a native 64 bit plugin?
[07:06] <smw> tanath, looking at pcbsd now :-). Mint is on the shortlist
[07:07] <tanath> smw, kind of, yes. i still wanna fix this stuff and give it a fair shake though before i ditch
[07:07] <metellius> cousin_luigi: probably because the native one hasn't made it into ubuntu yet
[07:07] <urlin2u> cousin_luigi, use flash aid the Firefox addon.
[07:07] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:07] <RP64> hey can anyone PM chat me for problems updating my flash i prefer PMs
[07:07] <cousin_luigi> metellius: odd, it's been out for a while now
[07:07] <smw> tanath, fair enough. Gnome-shell sucks too?
[07:07] <frooh> anyone know how I can get it to start vanilla gnome when I log in?
[07:07] <smw> !notunity > frooh
[07:07] <tanath> smw, not sure. i can't get that or unity to show at login screen. didn't have them installed when upgrading...
[07:08] <tanath> smw, so i can't log into them.. >_<
[07:08] <urlin2u> RP64, PM are discouraged as we all learn from each others help, use the FF addon flash aid and choose the latest or the beta.
[07:08] <smw> tanath, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[07:08] <tanath> smw, that's how i installed them. (only with aptitude)
[07:08] <dr_willis> or install ubuntu-desktop tanath
[07:08] <smw> tanath, reboot?
[07:08] <tanath> smw, but they're not in the list
[07:09] <RP64> urlin2u? flash aid? Oh I didn't know about that what I did was install the add on "flash 11" through firefox and the default was flash 10, it installed and ran flash 11 and 10 at the same time, if I disable 10 , 11 doesn't work, if I disable 11, 10 does work
[07:09] <tanath> dr_willis, oh hell no. that installs way too much crap i don't want
[07:09] <RP64> urlin2u: and there's no option to uninstall either
[07:09] <tanath> smw, more than once :P
[07:09] <dr_willis> tanath:  so what does show in the login screen?
[07:09] <urlin2u> RP64, flash aid will fix all that.
[07:09] <murlidhar> hello all . i have just upgraded my laptop to oneric and am not able to login into the desktop at all. only black screen comes after a while. no login screen.
[07:09] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:09] <cousin_luigi> urlin2u: it relies on flashplugin-nonfree, which is likewise tainted
[07:10] <RP64> urlin2u: I have a confession if I'm using Mint not regular Ubuntu will it work the same? lol
[07:10] <tanath> dr_willis, elementary, which i had installed and didn't care for but forgot to uninstall, gnome classic, and 'user defined option' or something
[07:10] <zaapiel> dont force your gpl down my throat
[07:10] <tanath> and i think failsafe or something
[07:10] <RP64> urlin2u:  it will i'm sure...yea it def should work
[07:10] <zaapiel> i dont care about software licenses and most users dont either
[07:10] <urlin2u> RP64, should you will have to try, not sure really.
[07:10] <costin> hi ppl!
[07:10] <smw> zaapiel, what are you talking about?
[07:10] <zaapiel> im just raging
[07:10] <killown> After the upgrade to 11.10 the sound no long works, do anyone help me?
[07:11] <smw> zaapiel, I hate GPL too. But not sure what that has to do with you :-P
[07:11] <zaapiel> BSD is the only true free license
[07:11] <zaapiel> do what you want with it
[07:11] <tanath> zaapiel, focus your rage appropriately. more likely to make a difference then. choose your battles, etc. good licenses benefit all
[07:11] <smw> zaapiel, I agree
[07:11] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:11] <smw> tanath, gpl must die :-P
[07:12] <zaapiel> gpl is a cancer
[07:12] <zaapiel> it taints all it touches
[07:12] <dr_willis> !gpl
[07:12] <tanath> smw, whyzat? promotes sharing and such...
[07:12] <zaapiel> it forces sharing
[07:12] <zaapiel> it doesnt promote it
[07:12] <dr_willis> getting ot...
[07:12] <tanath> that's a bad thing?
[07:12] <zaapiel> yes
[07:12] <smw> tanath, if you want, I can debate you in offtopic ;-)
[07:12] <tanath> smw, tempting, but it's after 3am here.
[07:12] <glitch-mod> I have no sound can someone please take a quick look at this output http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8730adfb36ba7e013f73e7db71948596b8f27229
[07:13] <smw> tanath, ah, east coast US?
[07:13] <tanath> smw, i really just wanna fix a prob or two
[07:13] <tanath> smw, canadian
[07:13] <smw> tanath, cool
[07:13] <tanath> apparently
[07:14] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:14] <tanath> *sigh* i give up for now. imma watch big bang theory and go to sleep :-/
[07:14] <tanath> nite all
[07:14] <mekwall> Hmm, repeating of key when held down stops working for me. I have to open keyboard settings and re-tick that setting for it to start working again. Any solution to this?
[07:15] <Geoffrey2> anyone know what happened to the Broadcom firmware cutter?  I can't find it anywhere in 11.10....
[07:15] <cjs> urlin2u: Ah, ok. So I'm not clear on whether gnome-panel is considered an "application launcher," and whether application launchers also hold the notificaiton area.
[07:16] <cjs> urlin2u: (I mean, notification area and so on.) So, where do you see, e.g., your sound and network icons? In your Synapse display?
[07:17] <somethinginteres> hi all, I have installed the latest VirtualBox on Ubuntu's newly released 11.10 by download the AMD64 Deb file. The progam is install and can be run from terminal with no problems but there doesn't appear to be icon for the program itself to start it without using the command line. There was an icon on 11.04. Any ideas?
[07:17] <urlin2u> cjs, in the classic gnome panel is a notification area, it is different then a application launcher except for what is running it will control.
[07:18] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:18] <minato> Hi all. Im running Empathy 2.30.3 in lucid. My contact list is now invisible (Using jitsy I see it ok, half the peolple on the list connected). Any one with this "bug"?
[07:18] <cjs> urlin2u: Err...I didn't quite understand that again.
[07:18] <cousin_luigi> faryshta_: do you remember what firmware you were using in the past?
[07:18] <d3vlin> Just upgraded to Oneiric, but after booting I get command prompt tty1 instead of X. According to Xorg.0.log it can't find nvidia module. When I start lightdm then manually all is fine. I guess nvidia module is not loaded yet when X fires... is there a solution to this?
[07:18] <faryshta_> cousin_luigi: kmod-wl
[07:18] <cousin_luigi> faryshta_: that's the module
[07:18] <faryshta_> cousin_luigi: I think.
[07:19] <cousin_luigi> any additional binary blob?
[07:19] <faryshta_> cousin_luigi: I am not sure. I installed the kmod-wl package.
[07:19] <glitch-mod> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8730adfb36ba7e013f73e7db71948596b8f27229  -- corrected
[07:19] <Edisto> hmmm... is eclipse and qt4 built into 11.10?
[07:19] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[07:20] <Edisto> nm brb rebooting to 11.10
[07:21] <Guest46533> damn, how can I have my old good destop ?, 11:10 default look way too much like mac
[07:23] <harshada1> hello guys
[07:23] <Kestion> hey
[07:23] <harshada1> hello guys
[07:23] <Kestion> hey again
[07:23] <costin> hi
[07:23] <Kestion> hey
[07:24] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:26] <Kestion> google is your friend
[07:26] <spartan7> I'm looking to virtualize a few servers. The hardware is a dual core 4 gig 2.2Ghz machine and would like to know the best software to do this under Ubuntu Server.
[07:26] <smw> spartan7, libvirt
[07:27] <zeerox> there is something really wrong with my ubuntu server, i setup dhcp for my switch > modem and setup net sharing for my windows clients, but for some reason it keeps disconnecting the modem and also sometimes the clients in windows (can still telnet to the box, just the net keeps dropping out) i set it up all with the how-tos on the ubuntu site
[07:27] <smw> spartan7, probably KVM
[07:27] <zeerox> at first it was working fine, but past few days its having probs havnt changed a thing
[07:27] <pratz> hey guys i can you please suggest me a good software to create DFD's ??
[07:28] <ashok_shetty> what is DFDs
[07:28] <smw> pratz, DIA
[07:28] <spartan7> smw, is kvm mostly commandline based?
[07:28] <smw> pratz, I also like the non-free Poseidon.
[07:29] <smw> spartan7, kvm is a technology in the kernel. You can use cli or gui
[07:29] <smw> spartan7, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[07:30] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:30] <smw> spartan7, the introduction is great
[07:30] <Edisto> wow.... i upgraded to 11.10 and now i can't even load into ubuntu. I get 4 solid orange dots and it stalls
[07:31] <spartan7> smw, I know. last time I tried kvm there was no gui and the cli was a bit hard. Thanks for the link I'll check it out. Isn't Xen in the kernal now as well?
[07:32] <smw> spartan7, isn't xen hypervisor not linux?
[07:32] <red> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65649/application-indicators-not-working-on-primary-monitor
[07:32] <red> halp :)
[07:32] <Guest46533> hey guys, how can I have old desktop configuration ? just installed ubuntu 11.10, really not a mac fan here
[07:33] <smw> spartan7, nm, xen is also there
[07:34] <zeerox> i setup dhcp for my switch > modem and setup net sharing for my windows clients, but for some reason it keeps disconnecting the other clients and sometimes the modem (can still telnet to the box, just the net keeps dropping out) i set it up all with the how-tos on the ubuntu site any suggestions?
[07:34] <zeerox> as u can see its disconnecting me random from here to
[07:34] <spartan7> smw, thank you for the link I think KVM will be perfect. the performance stats are excellent
[07:34] <Edisto> if you keep crashing at bootup is there anything to press down that bypass to terminal?
[07:35] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:35] <ffk27> how do i get the good old gnome 2 for ubuntu 11.10?
[07:35] <ffk27> gnome 2 was just perfrect for me
[07:35] <airtonix> ffk27: install it?
[07:35] <PurpleSmoke> ffk27 install gnome-shell
[07:35] <ffk27> i want the orginal lucid desktop
[07:35] <ffk27> thats not the same
[07:35] <smw> ffk27, I don't think gnome2 is available in oneric
[07:35] <PurpleSmoke> then login into classic gnome
[07:35] <ffk27> ye fuck ubuntu
[07:35] <smw> !notunity > ffk27
[07:36] <s1> Edisto: can you get to the GRUB menu!
[07:36] <s1> !gnome2
[07:36] <s1> !notunity
[07:36] <Da|Mummy> when ubuntu updates to new version, will i lose my current HOME folder and everything in it?
[07:36] <smw> Da|Mummy, no
[07:36] <SunTsu> Da|Mummy: only if you kill your box
[07:36] <ffk27> i better use 10.04 again
[07:37] <SunTsu> Da|Mummy: normally you won't, still I'd make backups of important stuff
[07:37] <smw> ffk27, 11.04 is not bad.
[07:37] <smw> ffk27, I run 10.10 on my laptop and 11.04 on desktop
[07:37] <SunTsu> ffk27: _10_.04? Seriously?
[07:37] <smw> ffk27, I am currently seeking an alternative distro to switch to when I have the time.
[07:37] <Guest46533> ffk27, you also have xfce or lxde no ? is it just desktop issue ?
[07:37] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:37] <airtonix> Guest46533: he's just looking for something to be mad at
[07:38] <smw> airtonix, you don't have to look hard
[07:38] <smw> airtonix, I am pissed.
[07:38] <airtonix> smw: neither do you
[07:38] <Guest46533> well I also not fan on new interface, don't found it interesting yet.
[07:39] <glitch-mod> Can anyone help me, I have  no sound;  Realtek ALC272X
[07:39] <airtonix> lighta: early days, the gnome3 interface is based on css and javascript so the tools to customise are available and familiar to a larger group of people than they were on gnome2
[07:40] <mroland> Anyone here get Ubantu to display properly on a Macbook Air 11inch yet?
[07:40] <mroland> Would be a great challange if anyone could get it to work :D
[07:41] <lighta> oh ? I should check that then airtonix that could be interessing, what I don't like it's the up panel. I used to have many app open and switch there, how can I do that now. also I don't see my cli shortcute anymore (yes alt+f2+xterm is too long)
[07:41] <s1> faryshta_: does the driver of that chipset shows up within " lshw -C network " .?
[07:42] <faryshta_> s1 don't know, let me send the outcome by PV
[07:43] <tapout> is unity forced on 11.10?  classic a no go now?
[07:43] <SunTsu> tapout: nope
[07:43] <airtonix> lighta: keyboard shortcuts lets you configure them
[07:43] <smw> !nounity > tapout
[07:44]  * s1 lag!
[07:45] <stephni> am currently upgrading how do i backup my data and installed apps?
[07:45] <PurpleSmoke> no
[07:45] <FluffNiggz> yay!
[07:45] <FluffNiggz> I have arrived
[07:45] <Engonyr> Does anyone know how to move the Workspace Switcher up in the Unity Bar?
[07:46] <Engonyr> As soon as I have too many apps open, I have to scroll to get to it
[07:46] <SunTsu> stephni: the way you want to.  After upgrading to 11.10 I'm unable to login from the GUI, though I can login form tty1 (Ctrl + Alt + F1)
[07:48] <blocky> if gnome shell is not starting on my virtual machine even when I select Gnome from session manager, is there a log file that says why gnome shell failed to start?
[07:48] <jussi> PoontangClan: lets try keep family friendly and ontopic please.
[07:49] <PoontangClan> I had the same issue
[07:49] <tapout> tkx
[07:49] <PoontangClan> when I upgraded from 10 to 11 with Intel GMA i845
[07:49] <viky> my works are stalled because of this..
[07:49] <PoontangClan> I ended up reinstallation fresh
[07:49] <viky> is there a way to recover this?
[07:49] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:49] <PoontangClan> and the gfx performance is HORRIBLE in ubuntu 11 with that chipset
[07:49] <PoontangClan> It was better in UBuntu 9
[07:50] <PoontangClan> they did something to butcher the driver
[07:50] <PoontangClan> unsure what
[07:50] <PoontangClan> makes opengl or anythign accelerated perform about half what it should be
[07:50] <viky> PoontangClan: I cant do that as I dont want to break my project flow
[07:50] <PoontangClan> well, we both know i845 is ancient
[07:50] <tapout> unity in 11.10 is actually *nice*.   I may use it.. actually.
[07:50] <jussi> viky: try creating a new user to see if it is your config that is the issue
[07:51] <jussi> PoontangClan: you arent being overly helpful.
[07:51] <davidvip> guys, what is Online Account for?
[07:51] <PoontangClan> btw cntrl atl backspace will force GDM to restart
[07:51] <PoontangClan> control alt f1 will drop u to a command prompt
[07:51] <viky> I'm able to login to the other account that I  already had
[07:52] <PoontangClan> why did u mute FluffNiggz?
[07:52] <jussi> viky: so it seems to be some sort of config issue - Im not so certain how to solve that.
[07:52] <viky> ok, anyway thanks jussi
[07:52] <jussi> !offtopic | PoontangClan
[07:52] <PoontangClan> im trying to be helpful there
[07:52] <intok> PoontangClan yeah, in 11.04 I have to use the VESA driver as the actual i845 drivers crash randomly every 2 mins-2 hours
[07:52] <PoontangClan> sharing what I have also experienced with that same chipset
[07:52] <PoontangClan> i think the opers of this channel are assholes IMHO, we can take our discussion elsewhere
[07:53] <pangolin> !language | PoontangClan
[07:56] <Noob> hy
[07:56] <Noob> some one can help me?
[07:56] <davidvip> hi all
[07:56] <Noob> hy ^^
[07:56] <davidvip> what is Online Account use for?
[07:56] <andyn> ahh, authority problems
[07:57] <lighta> davidvip, ubuntuone as I remenber
[07:57] <lighta> (backup)
[07:57] <Noob> so...
[07:58] <norbert_> hey folks, I upgraded to 11.10 and noticed the icons I had placed on the top bar have disappeared
[07:58] <norbert_> not a real problem because I can just move them back
[07:58] <Noob> ive got a great bug on my acount...
[07:58] <Companion> norbert_, perhaps using a sledgehammer for it
[07:58] <cutiyar> i upgraded to 11.10 , but do not boot after restart ask for network configuration.
[07:58] <Noob> ive updated 11.04 to 11.10...
[07:59] <Noob> and now my account is wichout unity
[07:59] <norbert_> lots of icons (the images) disappeared though, which is kind of annoying
[07:59] <Noob> and the guest is working well
[07:59] <calaveraFN> !plymouth
[07:59] <jussi> davidvip: online account is ubuntu one iirc
[08:00] <cutiyar> i upgraded to 11.10 , but do not boot after restart ask for network configuration.
[08:00] <Noob> great...
[08:00] <davidvip> that means to backup my data into ubuntu1? then why it needs Google account logins?
[08:00]  * Companion likes his rolling release :)
[08:01] <thefinn93> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gofUotkUfQ what would cause this?
[08:01] <Companion> reisio, thats naughty
[08:01] <reisio> Companion: is it?
[08:01] <Companion> reisio, why did you CTCP me? :)
[08:01] <Noob> \o\
[08:01] <reisio> Companion: so I could see the output
[08:01] <Noob>  /o/
[08:01] <Companion> reisio, of...
[08:02] <reisio> /ctcp reisio version
[08:02] <Companion> ah
[08:02] <reisio> mine is fake of course
[08:02] <reisio> but yours isn't :)
[08:02] <teresa_> What's the default calendar software in Ubuntu 11.10. The calendar in the clock menu seems to be broken...
[08:02] <Companion> reisio, I got  nothin to hide :)
[08:02] <zeerox> how can i get a file to display to say tty2 (eg syslog)?
[08:03] <reisio> mine doesn't actually hide anything, it's just sillier than reality :p
[08:03] <Noob> no body cares a noob
[08:03] <Noob> u.u
[08:03] <reisio> zeerox: tail -f /var/log/something ?
[08:03] <zeerox> thankyou reisio
[08:03] <Companion> reisio, I noticed
[08:03] <Noob> hello...
[08:03] <Companion> you simply added a custom version under CTCP replies :)