[06:06] <Trashcan> trust me more?
[06:06] <frank23> figment: kill 7715
[06:06] <bur[n] er> VNC == virtual network computing == remotely controlling a desktop
[06:06] <_native_> virtula network computing
[06:06] <Trashcan> i was just going to rm -rf /
[06:06] <nomasteryoda|w> lui, ask google
[06:07] <frank23> figment: and try to open again
[06:07] <Trashcan> tyler: ask someone who knows the answer :(
[06:07] <carpediem> wabble: not sure I follow, you mean when you click on VLC in "Add Programs"?
[06:07] <TylerDurden> uhh i thought u could help me
[06:07] <phiqtion> dougsko, that package isn't found. i need to update my souce list
[06:07] <figment> Yes that worked.
[06:07] <lui> oh ok
[06:07] <TylerDurden> bur[n] er, u wanna try?
[06:07] <figment> Thank you.  :)
[06:07] <bur[n] er> TylerDurden: sure... got vnc ready?
[06:07] <dougsko> phiqtion: it might be under universe
[06:07] <ThomasM> TylerDurden: I asked you a bit ago.  Is the drive still mounted at all?
[06:07] <Xenguy>  /igr TylerDurden
[06:07] <TylerDurden> uhh i think, i set password and allowed access
[06:07] <Trashcan> lol xeng
[06:08] <phiqtion> dougsko, there's nothing that says universe
[06:08] <TylerDurden> thomas i dont feel like explaining ti again
[06:08] <phiqtion> dougsko, it just says multimedia
[06:08] <_native_> you should tunnel vnc with ssh or use tightvnc
[06:08] <figment> I am going to check the other users, and hopefully I won't be back.
[06:08] <carpediem> "How I got owned" an autobiographical memior by TylerDurden
[06:08] <dougsko> phiqtion: hold on i gotta look at it
[06:09] <wabble> carpediem: err, they fixed it now i think :p
[06:09] <phiqtion> dougsko, ok
[06:09] <wabble> but now vlc wount play anything after an update here today so i did totem-xine
[06:09] <_native_> no shit! plain text vnc= owned.
[06:09] <dougsko> phiqtion: go to settings->repositories
[06:09] <Trashcan> lolololol @ carpediem
[06:09] <dougsko> phiqtion: and add the one that says universe
[06:10] <dougsko> phiqtion:then search for vlc
[06:10] <bur[n] er> anyone know if VINO can do reverse vnc??
[06:10] <_native_> im purely a ssh person no need for vnc.
[06:10] <_native_> yet.
[06:10] <carpediem> _native_: I tunnel vnc through ssh.
[06:10] <_native_> ;]
[06:10] <ThomasM> bur[n] er: You mean connect to a listener?
[06:10] <phiqtion> dougsko, none says universe
[06:10] <_native_> great.
[06:11] <bur[n] er> ThomasM: yes
[06:11] <bur[n] er> exactly
[06:11] <Hobbsee> ubuntu seems to be back up, including repositories
[06:11] <bur[n] er> i was hoping to help out TylerDurden
[06:11] <_native_> ;]
[06:11] <phiqtion> dougsko, everyone on that list are all already added
[06:11] <ThomasM> bur[n] er: Very doubtful.
[06:11] <bur[n] er> well crap
[06:11] <ThomasM> bur[n] er: He's inside a firewall?
[06:11] <bur[n] er> ThomasM: i dunno
[06:11] <bur[n] er> but to be sure, reverse vnc would be nice ;)
[06:12] <bur[n] er> then I don't have to worry about his side
[06:12] <bur[n] er> and only my side has to work
[06:12] <carpediem> _native_: how do you remote in without VNC?  X?
[06:12] <_native_> read firewalking a journey thru the enterprise by _native_
[06:12] <ThomasM> bur[n] er: Yep. Very, very handy.
[06:12] <warpforge> i recommend freenx
[06:12] <transgress> wouldn't vnc w/o x be like screen -x?
[06:12] <kevogod> carpediem, Use another protocol?
[06:13] <carpediem> transgress: well, I mean XDMCP
[06:13] <dougsko> phiqtion: there really should be a repository called universe, and you should be able to search for vlc, im really not sure why it wouldnt come up
[06:13] <Trashcan> hm
[06:13] <Trashcan> which vnc client do you guys use? :)
[06:13] <carpediem> transgress: you can get to an X session using XDMCP without VNC.
[06:13] <kevogod> Terminal Server Client
[06:14] <phiqtion> dougsko, okay found it. just i check mark everything or just universe and multiverse?
[06:14] <ThomasM> I'm fairly fond of TightVNC, especially with its added file transfer capabilities built into the UI.
[06:14] <_native_> i just ssh and have the server side sshd.conf setup to forward X
[06:14] <Trashcan> I have no idea how to do that native :)
[06:14] <carpediem> TightVNC on Linux, UltraVNC on Windows.
[06:14] <ThomasM> carpediem: What does Ultra do that Tight doesn't?
[06:14] <bur[n] er> keep it open ;)
[06:14] <bur[n] er> ultra has a nice full screen mode that works better than tight
[06:15] <dougsko> phiqtion: its probly not a great idea to get too much stuff from universe and multiverse unless you really need it because those programs are not supported
[06:15] <bur[n] er> although... neither of their fullscreen modes support hotkey passing
[06:15] <n0odl3> hi im starting to use cedega to enable me to install my tablet (pen and tablet) drive on linux
[06:15] <_native_> tightvnc is good there is a howto on getting stronger encryption with it. google
[06:15] <carpediem> ThomasM: the server installs a video driver, and when using a UltraVNC client to connect to an UltraVNC server, the performance is much, much better than normal VNC.
[06:15] <n0odl3> however i need to know how to get the "fglrx drivers for my video card
[06:15] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to obtain these?
[06:15] <ThomasM> carpediem: Free client, or does it require purchase?
[06:16] <transgress> n0odl3 check the wiki
[06:16] <Madpilot> !tell n0odl3 about ati
[06:16] <eyequeue> n0odl3:  sounds like ati: see the restricted repos
[06:16] <darius_> n0odl3: get xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:16] <dougsko> anything cleartext is never a good idea. ssh is really worth learning to use
[06:16] <kevogod> Cleartext makes everything easier
[06:16] <n0odl3> darius what is xorg-driver-fglrx?
[06:16] <carpediem> ThomasM: free...not sure of the license....free as in beer at least.
[06:16] <eyequeue> dooglus:  amen
[06:16] <kevogod> :P
[06:16] <tritium> n0odl3, read the wiki page on ATI
[06:16] <frank23> kevogod: for who?
[06:16] <transgress> there is more than just xorg-driver-fglrx ... you also need the restricted modules.  and you need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <_native_> i dont remember is ssh AES enabled?
[06:17] <kevogod> frank23, people
[06:17] <cafuego_> bicyclerepairpersonman strikes!
[06:17] <darius_> n0odl3: the driver
[06:17] <dougsko> plus tunnels are cool. surf the web in privacy at work :)
[06:17] <ThomasM> carpediem: Cool. Leaving my self a note to look into it.
[06:17] <_native_> ive always used blowfish.
[06:17] <transgress> anyone here use gizmo?
[06:17] <eyequeue> _native_:  256 192 and 512 aes cbc i believe are in the list of preferred
[06:17] <darius_> The latest build of X for Breezy has destroyed ATI config for so many systems
[06:18] <jaren> join #ubuntu-devel
[06:18] <jaren> :)
[06:18] <transgress> darius_ yeah it does, but a good dpkg-reconfigure will fix it... it broke the configs for those who config'd by hand or used fglrxconfig ... like me.
[06:18] <n0odl3> once i get these drivers my cedega wont freak out everytime i try to install something right?
[06:18] <eyequeue> _native_:  i was tweaking this last night on a new box amof
[06:18] <darius_> n0odl3: run fglrxconfig after the depencies are install
[06:18] <tritium> darius_, according to hwo?
[06:18] <tritium> who?
[06:18] <n0odl3> or in theory
[06:18] <cafuego_> darius_: ati purchasers deserve whatever they get ;-)
[06:18] <darius_> transgress: dpkg-reconfigure didn't fix mine
[06:18] <_native_> wireless phone + laptop + tools = fun
[06:19] <darius_> transgress: but fglrxconfig did fix it - nc6230
[06:19] <transgress> darius_ peculiar... did you just do the auto config with dpkg-reconfigure?
[06:20] <sector10> why is the default download desktop, shouldnt it be home/user?
[06:20] <transgress> darius_ or did you set up your monitor and stuff by hand?
[06:20] <LuVUnTu> got a simple question ... instead of the run application on the application pulldown there is an add application. how can i add run application back?
[06:20] <cafuego_> sector10: Why?
[06:20] <darius_> transgress: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:20] <cafuego_> sector10: ANy new users would get lost if that was the case ;-)
[06:20] <_native_> Ubuntu should include the Mcity-Milk-Chrome.tar.bz2 theme it looks so good on my laptop.
[06:20] <transgress> darius_ but when you ran that, did you set anything by hand or just let it auto probe?
[06:20] <n0odl3> will this stop cedega from creating "zombie" windows and malfunctions during installing a windows programs on linux computers?
[06:20] <darius_> transgress: auto-probe
[06:21] <eyequeue> LuVUnTu:  does alt-f2 help?
[06:21] <n0odl3> (the fglrx drivers)
[06:21] <transgress> darius_ that's why.  it doesn't do so well with that and the fglrx driver.
[06:21] <darius_> transgress: it appeared to find everything .. but it didn't work.
[06:21] <sector10> cafuego: is that the reason? its also firefox default makes sense i guess
[06:21] <Jenocin> ok almost there anyone know how to change the label on a vfat partition?
[06:21] <darius_> transgress: I didn't have fglrx installed initially
[06:21] <LuVUnTu> that's a great shortcut eyequeue thank u ... that'll do
[06:21] <transgress> n0odl3 that sounds more like a cedega problem... but i know you sure as hell wouldn't get games running well with cedega with the ati driver... fglrx would be needed.
[06:21] <cafuego_> sector10: I guess the reasoning is that people who don't ike it are advanced enough to change it.
[06:21] <darius_> transgress: I fresh-installed 5.10 RC .. which worked.  As soon as I updated the xorg .. it stopped working
[06:21] <sector10> cafuego: problem is if new users install kubuntu-desktop they might have then errors
[06:22] <n0odl3> does anyone use cedega?
[06:22] <n0odl3> i need to know how to use it
[06:22] <transgress> n0odl3 cedega has excellent support for their paying customers.
[06:22] <n0odl3> i see
[06:22] <sector10> cafuego: same goes if you create shortcut or launcher on desktop
[06:22] <LuVUnTu> one last question ... is there a text-base web browser for ubuntu that is already installed by default?
[06:22] <guru54> does gnome support bluetooth very well?
[06:22] <dougsko> n0odl3: point2play is a gui front end to cedega
[06:22] <transgress> LuVUnTu links2, lynx, w3m
[06:23] <EIGHTBALL> fresh install of breezy.. community maintained repositories unresponsive
[06:23] <Burgundavia> guru54, not as well as KDE, as much as it pains me to admit it
[06:23] <sector10> anybody use sytem: administration: disks to add windows partition?
[06:23] <n0odl3> yes i have point2play
[06:23] <eyequeue> LuVUnTu:  i dont think so, but sudo apt-get install lynx links elinks should help :)
[06:23] <n0odl3> what does gui frontend mean?
[06:23] <_native_> graphical user interface
[06:23] <dougsko> n0odl3: its a nice graphical way to use use cedega
[06:23] <spstarr> do we have xvidcap in breezy?
[06:23] <kevogod> n0odl3, It is a program that interfaces with a command line utility
[06:24] <transgress> jesus christ... someone should probably be reading more about linux...
[06:24] <spstarr> doesn't seem to be :(
[06:24] <Yetr2> n0odl3, it means that the user interface for the application is a graphical type interface
[06:24] <guru54> yea i am currently using mandriva and was going to try unbuntu and was wondering, i dont really need bluetooth but it was nice to sync some stuff with it but thanks Burgundavia
[06:24] <tritium> transgress, huh?
[06:24] <LuVUnTu> transgress:  i got w3m but not the others ... thanks for ur help too eyequeue
[06:24] <n0odl3> can cedega allow windows programs to run on linux?
[06:24] <Xorlev> Mostly games
[06:24] <dougsko> n0odl3: some
[06:24] <n0odl3> (like a certain cg program i like to use)
[06:24] <Xorlev> But not all programs.
[06:24] <n0odl3> i see
[06:24] <LuVUnTu> much oblige transgress
[06:24] <n0odl3> how about drivers?
[06:24] <transgress> n0odl3 it's more of a games thing... look into wine for others.
[06:24] <woodwizzle> is there anyway to see some sorta progress bar when using commands like cp or mv in a terminal?
[06:25] <n0odl3> i see
[06:25] <Xorlev> No it doesn't run drivers.
[06:25] <sector10> cafuego: what about system:administration: disks? if new users add windows here its trouble
[06:25] <transgress> n0odl3 why are you using linux?
[06:25] <Yetr2> n0odl3, cedega is geared mostly for gaming with windows games on a linux platform
[06:25] <dougsko> n0odl3: wine works too for some and its free
[06:25] <_native_> or really an API alot of commandline tools are considered APIs such as the wirelesstools collection.
[06:25] <n0odl3> isee
[06:25] <n0odl3>  thank you
[06:25] <kevogod> lol
[06:25] <Xorlev> Moron.
[06:25] <Yetr2> woodwizzle, not really, most you can do is -v
[06:25] <dougsko> lol
[06:25] <aalex> Question: The Debian formatting tool tells me that there is no partition table on my disk. Fine. My partitions are : /boot, swap, /, /home, FAT32
[06:25] <Xorlev> woodwizzle: Theres this nice bash script called bar that works like that...google it
[06:25] <Yetr2> aalex, are you looking at the correct disk?
[06:26] <woodwizzle> Yetr2: Thanks, thats not bad. Shoulda thought of that
[06:26] <sector10> cafuego: it defaults to mount point /home
[06:26] <aalex> Yetr2: what ? of course
[06:27] <bimberi> woodwizzle: both commands have a -v (for verbose) option
[06:27] <aalex> Yetr2: this is a blank disk
[06:27] <aalex> I am trying to create those partitions
[06:27] <Yetr2> oh....
[06:27] <aalex> there are lots of errors
[06:27] <duncanm> hmm, i'm trying to install eclipse on breezy
[06:28] <Trashcan> can you format a CD with ext3, and mount it as an hdd?
[06:28] <duncanm> i have "apt-get install eclipse-platform eclipse-rcp libswt3.1-gtk-java mozilla-browser libnspr4
[06:28] <duncanm> "
[06:28] <Trashcan> i doubt it, but that would be neat
[06:28] <mike> i just used synaptic to install scribus on ubuntu.....how do i start the program?
[06:28] <duncanm> and i end up with,   mozilla-browser: Depends: libnspr4 (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu05.04 is to be installed
[06:28] <nalioth> duncanm: you are using non official repos
[06:28] <kevogod> Trashcan, Uh, no
[06:28] <dougsko> mike: ./scribus
[06:29] <Trashcan> yeah kevo :p
[06:29] <Joxer> When you mount your disk you do it as root (sudo) but now i cant access my disk :( Any solutions
[06:29] <Yetr2> aalex, unless you are doing something like raid or LVM, you really don't need /boot as a seperate partition. Also, an IDE HDD can only have 4 primary partitions, you'll need to create 3 primary and 2 extended partitions
[06:29] <Yetr2> with what you currently want
[06:30] <mike> dougsko: thank you
[06:30] <dougsko> mike: yep, it also might be under one of the menus
[06:30] <duncanm> nalioth: i don't think so, i followed the instructions on BreezyUpgradeNotes
[06:30] <Joxer> anybody know ?
[06:31] <_native_> you cant create 2 extended partitions.
[06:31] <_native_> if you have 3 primary
[06:31] <woodwizzle> how do you do a search with apt-get
[06:31] <aalex> Yetr2: /, /home, swap, /music fat32 (extended), /stuff fat32 (extended) ?
[06:31] <duncanm> woodwizzle: apt-cache search <item>
[06:32] <n0odl3> does anyone here have a "Tablet"?
[06:32] <DavidLeeRoth> como estan ustedes hoy? How are you guys doing today?
[06:32] <dougsko> DavidLeeRoth: bien
[06:32] <Yetr2> aalex, are you planning on having windows read the partitions?
[06:32] <dougsko> y tu?
[06:32] <erick> guys
[06:33] <phiqtion> how can i download multimedia codecs in sypnatic?
[06:33] <DavidLeeRoth> I have a question.  I lost my root password but i got it back by chroot'ing into /bin/bash by logging in root on a ubuntu livecd.  I also forgot my Win2k password.  Does anyone have any tips for getting it back>
[06:33] <nalioth> duncanm: have you ever had non ubuntu repos in your sources.list?
[06:33] <aalex> Yetr2: yes, thats why some gonna be FAT32
[06:34] <tritium> Davey, chntpw
[06:34] <duncanm> nalioth: before, yeah
[06:34] <duncanm> nalioth: how do i purge those old entries, then
[06:34] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth, chntpw
[06:34] <erick> can i use gui in my ubuntu server mode
[06:34] <DavidLeeRoth> Estoy de buen humor ahorita porque dormi por 3 horas.
[06:34] <duncanm> nalioth: is it that i have an odd version of libnspr4 installed?
[06:34] <nalioth> duncanm: you put a # in front of the line in your sources.list
[06:34] <tritium> DavidLeeRoth, english here please.  Spanish in #ubuntu-es
[06:34] <nalioth> duncanm: most likely, yes
[06:35] <duncanm> nalioth: can i force it to install the one from the breezy repo?
[06:35] <nalioth> duncanm: if you wish
[06:35] <duncanm> nalioth: how do i do that?
[06:35] <n0odl3> does anyone here use a pen and mouse tablet?
[06:35] <Yetr2> aalex, I don't see what the problem is then
[06:35] <duncanm> apt-get -f install libnspr4?
[06:35] <n0odl3> or does anyone know what im talking about?
[06:36] <n0odl3> anyone?
[06:36] <tritium> duncanm, don't give a package name when you use -f
[06:36] <nalioth> duncanm: grab the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and "sudo dpkg --force-all filename.deb"  <<<<MAY KILL YOUR BOX
[06:36] <erick> nalioth how can i use gui on my ubuntu i install server mode
[06:36] <n0odl3> Anyone?
[06:36] <duncanm> hmm
[06:37] <tritium> erick, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (for gnome)
[06:37] <duncanm> or i can apt-get remove libnspr4 and reinstall
[06:37] <nalioth> erick: what desktop do you like?
[06:37] <_native_> erick use apt-get install gnome-core
[06:37] <nalioth> duncanm: that would be better
[06:37] <_native_> or yeah whatever desktop suits you
[06:37] <nalioth> erick: install the desktop you are familiar with
[06:37] <erick> what is the default desktop
[06:37] <tritium> gnome, erick
[06:37] <_native_> gnome is the best imo
[06:37] <Joxer> does anyone know how i can mount a ntfs disk, and get access to it, concidering the fact that you mount it as root ?
[06:38] <erick> tritium thanks
[06:38] <tritium> _native_, ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-core
[06:38] <erick> nalioth thanks
[06:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Joxer about ntfs
[06:38] <_native_> yeah if you want a lot of crap that wont ever be used or wont be used util the user knows what all those apps even are
[06:39] <cafuego_> _native_: I think that's up to erick to decide, not you.
[06:39] <_native_> uh yeah
[06:39] <aalex> Yetr : where do I set a partition to be extended, not primary ?
[06:40] <cafuego_> If you give the user a full set, theyc an always delete or ignore what they don't need. As opposed to asking for more software in here coz they can't find it.
[06:40] <aalex> (in the ubuntu installer)
[06:40] <erick> wherecafuego im just asking waht is the default desktop in ubuntu because this is my first time to use it
[06:41] <_native_> gnome is the default
[06:41] <eyequeue> erick:  ubuntu=gnome, kubuntu=kde, xubuntu=xfce, the later two being variants
[06:41] <nalioth> erick: install ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <Joxer> thanks nalioth :)
[06:42] <duncanm> heh, i didn't know xubuntu is for xfce
[06:42] <Razor-X> eyequeue: we have a xubuntu now?
[06:42] <nalioth> Joxer: np
[06:42] <tritium> yes, Razor-X
[06:42] <erick> nalioth thanks
[06:42] <nalioth> duncanm: xubuntu is new with breezy
[06:42] <Razor-X> we should have rubuntu
[06:42] <Razor-X> ratpoison :P
[06:42] <aalex> rox rocks
[06:42] <duncanm> some of the apps in xfce look nice
[06:42] <gurubie> What's the fastest way to set a group of multiple copied directory and files to my user permissions WITH ubuntu?
[06:42] <Razor-X> I'm finding it's excellent for minimalistic-ness
[06:42] <nalioth> gurubie: chmod
[06:42] <Razor-X> nalioth: hey, I coined that term :P
[06:42] <eyequeue> Razor-X:  i'm not sure of its official status, but i know there's been work on it for a while now
[06:43] <erick> guys thanks for response first i will look for the files where can i edit and put dns
[06:43] <kevogod> eubuntu could be confused with edubuntu
[06:43] <Razor-X> eyequeue: lemme look that up
[06:43] <Razor-X> kevogod: yeah, i've heard that before, that's why eubuntu was canned
[06:43] <Razor-X> at least, that name anyways
[06:43] <aalex> Well, now , guys. In the installer, how do i set a partition to be secondary, not primary partition, on a IDE disk ?
[06:43] <gurubie> Is there a GUI way for a new user (with password) to change multiple permissions?
[06:43] <kevogod> enubuntu
[06:43] <nalioth> gurubie: chmod
[06:44] <kevogod> enlubuntu
[06:44] <Razor-X> kevogod: but then, I proposed the name before edubuntu was made
[06:44] <_native_> rightclick -> properties-> permissons
[06:44] <gurubie> nalioth, I've previously not done chmod, where do I start?
[06:44] <starscalling> ok!
[06:44] <starscalling> how about learning about firewalls?
[06:44] <nalioth> gurubie: open a terminal and type "man chmod" or do as _native_ suggested
[06:44] <kevogod> Razor-X, You are good at selecting names
[06:45] <Razor-X> kevogod: :P
[06:45] <nalioth> starscalling: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[06:45] <_native_> u can highlight multiple directories or files and change all the highlighted file permissions
[06:46] <_native_> highlight= rightclick hold rightclick -> drag over files
[06:46] <eyequeue> gurubie:  chmod g+x file*.pl is an example that makes files exectuable for the group ... the man page is good
[06:47] <erick> where is the file where can i put my dns ip address
[06:47] <misterdiff> is there anyway that i can get a sample configuration of the ubuntu kernel?
[06:47] <misterdiff> so i can compile my own
[06:47] <eyequeue> erick:  are you looking for /etc/network/interfaces? (man 5 interfaces)
[06:47] <tritium> misterdiff, in /boot
[06:48] <bimberi> erick: /etc/resolv.conf
[06:48] <erick> misterdiff try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43065
[06:48] <tritium> misterdiff, if you do, I suggest you use ubuntu linux-source packages, and kernel-package
[06:48] <_native_> anyone used prelinking : preloading with gnome?
[06:49] <erick> eyequeue I already edit that file bimberi try to check that
[06:49] <eyequeue> erick:  what i said to set your ip, what bimberi said if you want to specify servers
[06:49] <davidleeroth> what was that app again? chntpasswd?
[06:49] <eyequeue> erick:  not positive your needs there
[06:50] <erick> eyqueue yeah I know I already edit that file
[06:50] <ngmlinux_> anybody know how to make a .zip file in ubuntu (yes specifically a .zip that can be uncompressed in windows not a gz or bz2)
[06:50] <_native_> man zip
[06:50] <erick> eyequeue how can I log as root
[06:50] <tritium> hey there ngmlinux_
[06:50] <eyequeue> ngmlinux_:  there's an app called ... zip :-)
[06:51] <davidleeroth> what was that app again? chntpasswd?
[06:51] <_native_> sudo passwd root -> set passwd -> enter -> fuss up your system good. ;]
[06:51] <bimberi> ngmlinux_: Apps -> Accessories -> Archive Manager
[06:51] <eyequeue> erick:  well, we usually sudo before a single command, but "sudo -s" will get you a root shell, if you want that
[06:52] <ngmlinux_> zip -r folder_to_be_zipped?
[06:52] <Madpilot> erick: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:52] <erick> but what password will i use
[06:52] <thewayofzen> when x.org and compositing is completely worked out its gonna rule  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/thewayofzen/xfcetrans.jpg
[06:52] <lui> people, can I make aMule look with a better interface?
[06:52] <ngmlinux_> does that sound right?
[06:52] <Madpilot> erick: with sudo, you use your own user pw
[06:52] <eyequeue> erick:  you use your own password when running sudo anything
[06:52] <thewayofzen> with dropshadows and trans xfce panel i dont mind the bit of slowdown i get.. but with transset on any window my box is useless.
[06:52] <erick> madpilot eyeque thanks i got it works
[06:53] <Davey> So, Breezy comes out tomorrow, if I update now, am I essentially getting the breezy release?
[06:53] <Razor-X> thewayofzen: ratpoison is cleaner than XFce :P
[06:53] <eyequeue> Davey:  if you have breezy in sources.list yes
[06:53] <erick> guys thanks it works
[06:53] <thewayofzen> Razor-X, not a fan are u?
[06:53] <Madpilot> thewayofzen: that's shiny... I might have to try Xubuntu!
[06:53] <Davey> eyequeue, so its *the* official 5.10 release there now? Its just not been announced?
[06:54] <tritium> no, Davey
[06:54] <lui> can I make aMule look with a better interface?
[06:54] <Davey> so bunches of fixes etc will be added tomorrow? :)
[06:54] <eyequeue> Davey:  nah, there's still a few hours for devels to upload paniced changes ;-)
[06:54] <Razor-X> lui: aMule has some skins
[06:54] <dougsko> any of you guys notice you have to right-click the desktop icon and choose eject to get your cd drawer to eject a cd?
[06:54] <davidleeroth> is there a way to change nt passwords from a linux host?
[06:54] <ngmlinux_> I think I got it, thanks team
[06:54] <erick> guys i will edit my apt source.list, can I uncomment all of the option to include on my repo
[06:54] <tritium> davidleeroth, I told yo how
[06:54] <jnoon> when i click a link in firefox to a stream.cgi (which in windows pops up media player), it asks me what i want to do with it... anyone know what i can do so RealPlayer or something will pop up?  i tried chosing open with RealPlayer but nothing happened
[06:54] <_native_> yeah  dougsko that is an annoyance
[06:54] <dougsko> like the button on the drive does work when there's a disk in
[06:55] <tritium> davidleeroth, use chntpw, like I suggested
[06:55] <lui> Razor-X, but I google on it ut can't find nothing
[06:55] <dougsko> im not too sure how to fix that either
[06:55] <lui> b
[06:55] <eyequeue> Davey:  btw, it's been a few apps every few hours for a while now, it's not a once-a-day major thing
[06:55] <_native_> me too doug though i have not even looked into fixxing it
[06:56] <dougsko> yeah i admit i havent really tried too hard
[06:56] <tritium> nalioth_zZz, no sleep for you!
[06:56] <lui> anyone have aMule with a skin?
[06:56] <davidleeroth> i use emule
[06:56] <nalioth_zZz> tritium: PPPpffffffftttttt
[06:56] <tritium> :)
[06:56] <_native_> it has to do with the userland software basically commadiering control of you drive
[06:56] <Davey> eyequeue, I guess what I'm getting at is, is Breezy x86 + ATI stable? :)
[06:57] <_native_> sort of
[06:57] <Davey> eyequeue, and how much is it going to break?
[06:57] <tritium> Davey, you're asking him to predict that?
[06:57] <davidleeroth> i am on breezy now and it seems fine
[06:57] <eyequeue> Davey:  i dont do ati here so cant speak to that but as for the rest
[06:57] <Davey> tritium, damn straight I am :
[06:57] <Davey> :)
[06:58] <_native_> no breakage yet for me Davey on a ati 9200 laptop card all features work smooth
[06:58] <Davey> cool
[06:58] <lui> davidleeroth, I can't install lmule, it always gives me a lot of errors when compiling, and that is the one I want, I just hate the aMule interface
[06:58] <eyequeue> Davey:  breezy is just about as close to perfect as its going to get, and only has that one more error scheduled, the one that deletes your system :)
[06:58] <Davey> I wonder if Dual Monitor support is any better
[06:58] <Licker> what was that command to edit a restricted DOC?
[06:58] <Davey> eyequeue, which is a fresh install error, right?
[06:59] <eyequeue> Davey:  i was joking that some last-minute error could technically be a disaster
[06:59] <_native_> !seen procrastination_nation
[06:59] <ubotu> _native_: i haven't seen 'procrastination_nation'
[07:00] <davidleeroth> lui, have you considered limewire?
[07:00] <eyequeue> Davey:  i'm personally on breezy for a while now, but put hoary on a new install a couple of days ago.  dont want a newbies first taste to be a bug
[07:01] <_native_> bugs are good.............for reporting. ;]
[07:01] <_native_> jk
[07:01] <_native_> i hate bad design + coding
[07:01] <_native_> = hell
[07:01] <concept10> Are the old kernels removed from the repositories after the new ones are released in breezy?
[07:01] <eyequeue> all these years later and she came to me *asking* for linux, can't blow it heh
[07:02] <lui> davidleeroth, yes but it haven't so many files like the ed2k network
[07:02] <concept10> anyone know that
[07:02] <eyequeue> the livecd was great for that btw, pop it in, ask if she could handle that on her own, then offer to make it faster and permanent, heh
[07:03] <_native_> girlZ are so helpless........... NOT!
[07:03] <cafuego_> auaoTouBu: Is it useful?
[07:03] <eyequeue> concept10:  i suppose you could browse the appropriate directory with firefox?  under /pool somewhere
[07:04] <Licker> what was that command to edit a restricted DOC?
[07:04] <cafuego_> Any ops awake?
[07:04] <tritium> what's up cafuego_ ?
[07:04] <phiqtion> how can i edit the grub?
[07:04] <cafuego_> tritium_ this silly random-nicked join spammer
[07:04] <_native_> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <cafuego_> tritium<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:04] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  you probable want /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:04] <phiqtion> eyeque, thanks
[07:05] <tritium> good call, cafuego_
[07:05] <alfie>  anybody have a backport mirror website with servers that are currently working?
[07:05] <cafuego_> %? what's that do?
[07:05] <tritium> quiet
[07:05] <_native_> is it .list now ? ..... no
[07:05] <concept10> I just miss having old, well working kernels around ... I like to keep a couple of the older ones around
[07:05] <cafuego_> Ah, neet :-)
[07:06] <erick> phiqtion try this file /usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg_grub.conf
[07:06] <eyequeue> concept10:  saved my butt more than once :)
[07:06] <tritium> :)
[07:06] <erick> im newbie in using debian but in redhat its on /etc/grub.conf and I guess thats the right file for debian
[07:07] <concept10> eyequeue, the old kernels are replaced in the repos when they are updated, they should keep a couple of versions in there
[07:07] <aurax> hi
[07:07] <aurax> can anyone tell me what the hack apt wants from me ?
[07:07] <aurax> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:07] <aurax> swat: Depends: samba (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed
[07:08] <tritium> aurax, looks like backports hell
[07:08] <cafuego_> aurax: run 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' first
[07:08] <aurax> did it
[07:08] <cafuego_> !info samba hoary
[07:08] <eyequeue> concept10:  yeah, i'm stuck running 2.6.12-6-686 here because 2.6.12-9-686 won't work here
[07:08] <ubotu> samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2300 kB, Installed size: 5956 kB
[07:08] <cafuego_> !info samba breezy
[07:08] <ubotu> samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2332 kB, Installed size: 5928 kB
[07:08] <_native_> do a apt-get clean && apt-get check && apt-get update
[07:08] <phrizer> I'm trying to run 'make menuconfig' to configure some kernel source, and i get this  "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses" though i do have ncurses installed.
[07:08] <phiqtion> i downloaded the breezy RC, tomorrow the official version will come out. do i have to reinstall it?
[07:08] <erick> am I right to edit grub just go to this file /usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg_grub.conf
[07:08] <cafuego_> aurax: Disable backports
[07:09] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no
[07:09] <aurax> hmm
[07:09] <aurax> k
[07:09] <cafuego_> erick: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:09] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  did you install that rc version?
[07:09] <tritium> phrizer, you need libncurses5-dev
[07:09] <_native_> u need thte dev ncurses
[07:09] <phrizer> Okei
[07:09] <_native_> damn!
[07:09] <aurax> allready disabled
[07:09] <_native_> lol
[07:09] <cafuego_> good call, tritium
[07:09] <tritium> :)
[07:09] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade, tomorrow
[07:09] <_native_> ;->
[07:09] <cafuego_> aurax: It is nevertheless trying to fetch from a backports repository
[07:09] <erick> cafuego ah k im sorry but grub.conf is in the /usr
[07:10] <_native_> wha?
[07:10] <_native_>  /usr
[07:10] <_native_> ?
[07:10] <aurax> hmm?
[07:10] <tritium> erick, cafuego_ would not lead you astray
[07:10] <_native_> sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:10] <cafuego_> erick, ... much
[07:11] <aurax> new kernel upgrade?
[07:11] <aurax> kewl
[07:11] <tga> tmpfs                 237M   13M  225M   6% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[07:11] <erick> k I know cafuego is right, i try this file Im sorry again
[07:11] <tga> what exactly does this do?
[07:11] <cafuego_> erick: The boot menu definitions are in /boot/grub/menu.lst - there isn't anything else that requires user editing.
[07:11] <cafuego_> tga: It indicates you should install an optimised kernel ;-)
[07:11] <lui> ok people how can I get  wxWidgets 2.6.2?
[07:12] <erick> cafuego not need to be edit? how can i secure my grub?
[07:12] <_native_> cvs madwifi + latest kernel + cvs wirelesstools = fun
[07:12] <cafuego_> erick: secure?
[07:12] <flankk> 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature' produces -267 C.. is this acutally Kelvin? (if you ignore the negativity..)
[07:12] <sextrip_m> bayot
[07:12] <tga> cafuego_, I never saw that before.. what does it do?
[07:12] <_native_> secure it in what way password protected?
[07:12] <erick> in redhat you should include password so that changing root password by running in single mode
[07:13] <frank23> flankk: no, that would be -6 degC if you do it your way
[07:13] <erick> is not permitted
[07:13] <asdx> breezy will feature initng?
[07:13] <LivingTarget> erick: there is a password section in my /boot/grub/menu.lst it's commented out so have a look at it
[07:13] <cafuego_> tga: it's a ramdisk. Not sure why it needs to be one.
[07:13] <aurax> so how can i get swat installed?
[07:13] <erick> ah k thanks LivingTarget
[07:13] <phiqtion> eyequeue, i did installed the rc version, why?
[07:14] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  tomorrow, running "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade" will grab the changes that happened in this past week
[07:14] <phiqtion> eyequeue, how much MB aprox. ?
[07:14] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no need to grab an entire cd image and all that again
[07:15] <phiqtion> eyequeue, how safe is that upgrade? isn't it better to grab the new cd image?
[07:15] <asdx> breezy will feature initng?
[07:15] <flankk> frank23, well.. what are you saying.  Do I have temp sensors or no?
[07:15] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  well, it would depend on how much you installed of course, but i'd say just a few minutes d/l here
[07:16] <cafuego_> erick: You can add a password option. use 'grub-md5-crypt' to generate a password. CHECK DOCS before you enabled this.
[07:16] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no ,that upgrade is very safe, it's something many of us do daily (and is how security upgrades are handled too)
[07:16] <flankk> frank23,  'critical (S5):  -264 C' .. so something's up.
[07:16] <erick> in ssh can i used different port instead of the default 22
[07:16] <erick> cafuego I will try that
[07:16] <cafuego_> flankk: The cpu is freezing, quickly run a kernel compile!
[07:16] <dougsko> flankk: gkrellm will show you your cpu temp without sensors (im not really sure how it does it, but it seems pretty accurate)
[07:16] <eyequeue> erick:  -p 2222 if you wanted that
[07:17] <Hackmo> hey, i'm using breezy and i'm having a problem with my webcam.  When I first updated to breezy my webcam worked fine (toucam pro2) but I updated my system a couple of days ago and now my webcam wont work
[07:17] <Hackmo> anyone got any idea what is wrong?
[07:17] <erick> its almost the same with redhat the main difference is the location of files
[07:17] <cafuego_> erick: /etc/ssh/sshd_config (add Port <portnumber> lines for each port you want it to listen on.
[07:17] <phiqtion> eyequeue, well, one thing though was, in the second install phase of ubuntu RC, everything it was downloading displayed this message: "error, wrong medium installed CD/Dvd" something similar to that, i cant remeber the exact message.
[07:17] <melvztechie> erick: hello, i just thought your used to Redhat or Fedora?
[07:17] <frank23> dougsko: it probably uses lm-sensors
[07:17] <dougsko> erick: you can change the port it runs on in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:17] <dougsko> frank23: what are those
[07:17] <erick> melv redhat 9 upto fedora 4
[07:18] <frank23> dougsko: just the program that reads the sensor outputs
[07:18] <dougsko> cool
[07:18] <erick> eyequeue how will I connect ssh ipaddress?
[07:18] <aurax> k welp i will install webmin-samba instead
[07:18] <aurax> bah
[07:18] <cafuego_> ssh ip -p port -l user
[07:18] <erick> k cafuego thanks
[07:18] <misterdiff> where can i get an ubuntu 64bit version with smp supported so i can use the live distro and actually boot?
[07:18] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  hmm, you're free to start over if you'd feel more comfortable of course, but i'd tend to trust what has been running well for a week myself :)  but i may also have more experience i guess
[07:19] <Hackmo> my webcam is also used a mic, the mic part seems to be working fine
[07:19] <phiqtion> eyeque, which version on u are?
[07:19] <phiqtion> are u on*
[07:19] <eyequeue> erick:  'ssh -p 2222 <IP_ADDRESS>'
[07:19] <frank23> misterdiff: the non smp version should work as well
[07:20] <jgrieves_> what up
[07:20] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  i have breezy on this laptop, and hory on a desktop
[07:20] <jgrieves_> alrighty I need an experienced GDM user :)
[07:20] <Joxer> Is there a mp3 player for linux that looks kinda like winamp ?
[07:20] <Babbage> Hello, I have some kind of problem with HAL/udev/hotplug somewhere I think - when I plug in my iRiver, it doesn't automatically get mounted any more.  What should I check?
[07:20] <eyequeue> hoary
[07:20] <phiqtion> eyeque, RC candidate?
[07:20] <jgrieves_> how can I restart X after initiating GDM
[07:20] <misterdiff> frank23, it doesn't
[07:20] <flankk> cafuego_,  I knew I should have consulted a professional before dipping my mobo in a pool of liquid nitrogen.
[07:20] <jgrieves_> per user
[07:20] <tritium> jgrieves_, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:21] <frank23> Joxer: beep-media-player looks like winamp
[07:21] <misterdiff> frank23, everytime i try it says it can't find a suitable kernel
[07:21] <jgrieves_> tritium i need ot specifcy specifc x extensions per user
[07:21] <Joxer> thanks frank23
[07:21] <jgrieves_> so if user X logs in , X starts with ____ extensiosn
[07:21] <jgrieves_> and if user Y logs in, X starts with ____ extensions
[07:21] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  um, the cd is called that, but i've been updating mine daily from the net, no cd at all (install was warty)
[07:21] <jgrieves_> gdm loads up Xorg
[07:21] <dougsko> flankk: wow, that sounds like fun
[07:22] <frank23> misterdiff: and you have a Athlon64 or Pentium 4-EMT64?
[07:22] <jgrieves_> and I edited the PreSession file to kick X and restart it based on a .xsession in the user directory
[07:22] <jgrieves_> but gdm doesn't like that
[07:22] <jgrieves_> one bi
[07:22] <phiqtion> eyeque, also, after breezy installed itself after all those errors. in the taskbar first thing that popped out was that there was 187 packages to update. i mean? i downloaded the latest version, why is it asking me to update every single package already installed? another weird thing was that i compared the version already installed and the version to be upgraded to. and they're exactly the same. any suggestions?
[07:22] <DjKritical> Does anyone know if there is a ubuntu package for edemu?
[07:22] <alfie> anybody have an hoary-backport server that works
[07:23] <flankk> dougsko, all
[07:23] <flankk> dougsko, all GKrellM does is monitor that file I'm having trouble with.
[07:23] <dougsko> flankk: oh ok, yeah i dont really know much about that
[07:23] <aurax> anyone here using samba?
[07:24] <erick> yup
[07:24] <erick> yes aurax
[07:24] <aurax> u got a tiny prob
[07:24] <aurax> i *
[07:24] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  some source packages do have a huge number of binary packages (gstreamer and xorg come to mind) and i know both have upgraded recently
[07:24] <frank23> alfie: backports is now with the official servers
[07:24] <aurax> i cannot see my box @ my network palces
[07:24] <aurax> places*
[07:24] <nalioth_zZz> alfie: all ubuntu servers are down atm
[07:24] <alfie> thanks frank used the official server but it is down
[07:25] <flankk> dougsko, all I know is that I'm 3 degrees centigrade from critical..  Dunno what muliplier to use to get the correct temp though.. or how to find out.
[07:25] <Babbage> when I plug in my USB disk, it doesn't automatically get mounted any more.  What should I check?
[07:25] <frank23> nalioth_zZz: I use the ca server and it works right now
[07:25] <alfie> nalioth:  will try tomorrow then
[07:25] <alfie> what is the ca server
[07:25] <nalioth_zZz> alfie: it doeant matter. it is all the same machine
[07:25] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  the number seems high, but it doesn't really surprise me i guess, considering that
[07:25] <frank23> alfie: canada   ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:25] <jgrieves_> tritium, you sitll with me?
[07:25] <alfie> i tried all from the backport project and official
[07:25] <erick> aurax what is your p[roblem in samba
[07:26] <alfie> frank23: will try
[07:26] <tritium> jgrieves_, no idea how to implement that
[07:26] <jgrieves_> haha yeah
[07:26] <phiqtion> eyeque, you recommend me to update all that?
[07:26] <Hackmo> anyone having any cam issues on breezy?
[07:26] <jgrieves_> I don't really understand why GDM is tripping up, except perhaps its relying on the PID
[07:26] <dougsko> flankk: yeah it's wierd it would display the temp at -200+ 'C', b/c it's obviously not celcius
[07:26] <flankk> Babbage, check your /etc/fstab.. that you have kernel support.. etc.
[07:26] <jgrieves_> of the Xorg its using
[07:27] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  yes, or wait a couple of days until the official release, if you have bandwidth issues there
[07:27] <erick> nalioth can i use openwebmail here in ubuntu? all of there packages are in rpm and source can this be possible
[07:27] <frank23> dougsko: -200 is not a realistic temp on any scale
[07:27] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  that way there will just be one d/l
[07:27] <nalioth_zZz> erick: if you see the pkgs, go for it
[07:27] <ce_imut> HEI
[07:27] <dougsko> frank23: lol i know
[07:27] <jgrieves_> anyone else reall experineced in GDM?
[07:27] <flankk> frank23, what does yours read so I can get a sense of what it should be.
[07:27] <jgrieves_> i'm sure its been done before, most likeyl with multiple monitors
[07:27] <karra> tyf67f8
[07:27] <alfie> frank23: still gettingW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:27] <ce_imut> HAI CEW
[07:27] <melvztechie> erick: r u from PH? ur using info.com.XX
[07:28] <dougsko> frank23: what command did you use to get it?
[07:28] <phiqtion> eyequeue, good suggestion. thanks
[07:28] <erick> can i use the rpm packages
[07:28] <karra> tsdrtrdughf
[07:28] <dougsko> erick: alien can convert rpm to deb
[07:28] <erick> melv yes im from phil y?
[07:28] <melvztechie> erick: you can get alien
[07:28] <Babbage> flankk> OK, well, I have no /dev/sdb, so there is no point worrying about /etc/fstab yet.   What is supposed to generate /dev/sdb?   udev?   hotplug?  Something else?
[07:28] <flankk> dougsko, perhaps it's subtracting an even 400 centigrade from the actual temperature?  Critical is -264C.. is that about right?
[07:28] <ce_imut> hai leh kenalan g'
[07:28] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no prob :)  a say wait a few days since the mirrors will be slow right after release too :)
[07:28] <DjKritical> Does anyone know if there is a ubuntu package for edemu?
[07:28] <erick> melvs dougs thanks
[07:28] <DjKritical> cdemu*
[07:28] <tga> ce_imut, hai s nu
[07:29] <erick> i will try that
[07:29] <melvztechie> i see, just doing the same thing ur doing now;)
[07:29] <cafuego_> flankk: lm-sensors issue?
[07:29] <dougsko> flankk: can your processor EVER be too cold?
[07:29] <Babbage> dougsko, yes
[07:29] <Greensky> does anyone know what the daemon that puts the update icon in the gnome panel is?
[07:29] <dougsko> huh
[07:29] <jgrieves_> update-notifier?
[07:29] <frank23> flankk: dougsko I cannot read the temp the way you did
[07:29] <phiqtion> eyequeue, true. so u think its better off for me to don't ever again download and burn a ubuntu cd unless SERIOUS problemas occur, and just keep updating?
[07:29] <flankk> Babbage, if you have kernel support.. it will call udev to make the device node, yes.. so check your kern.
[07:29] <jgrieves_> Greensky: ps -A | grep update-notifier
[07:29] <erick> any pinoy
[07:29] <Greensky> jgrieves : yeah that looks like that's it
[07:30] <jgrieves_> if you wanna kill it
[07:30] <Greensky> jgrieves_, yeah, just getting that setup in xfce
[07:30] <melvztechie> ahooooy!!!
[07:30] <Greensky> no, going to run it
[07:30] <Greensky> thanks :)
[07:30] <jgrieves_> gotcha
[07:30] <jgrieves_> haha
[07:30] <Greensky> :P
[07:30] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  right :)  but if you want the cd to go install on all your friends machines, get a fresh cd of course :)
[07:30] <Babbage> flankk, it's stock linux-image-2.6.10-5-386, what should I check?
[07:30] <cafuego_> Greensky: that should autorun if you have new package lists and there are updates.
[07:30] <flankk> cafuego_, unsupported BIOS more likely?
[07:30] <Greensky> although I just heard about xubuntu so maybe they'll integrate that into xfce now as an option
[07:30] <erick> melvz from where r u
[07:30] <ce_imut> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[07:30] <karra> ada apa
[07:30] <jgrieves_> ok, come on you GDM super users
[07:30] <Greensky> cafuego_, probably not in xfce though
[07:30] <melvztechie> BGO
[07:30] <melvztechie> u?
[07:31] <erick> what is BGO
[07:31] <Greensky> thanks jgrieves_ :)
[07:31] <DjKritical> Does anyone know of a gnome equivilent to daemon tools?
[07:31] <misterdiff> frank23, sorry. i have an amd64 x2 processor with integrated ati xpress 200. i can't get the damn thing to boot with the live or the install cd
[07:31] <erick> im from philippines
[07:31] <ce_imut> he kar
[07:31] <sayonara> hi folks
[07:31] <jgrieves_> Greensky: np
[07:31] <phiqtion> eyequeue, of course. are u busy? i can keep learning from u for 2 hours more if thats ok. lol
[07:31] <cafuego_> flankk: If it's ACPI yes. if lm-sensors, you'd need a proper config file (different chips needs different formulas to report the actual value)
[07:31] <misterdiff> frank23, tried the x86 version too but no luck
[07:31] <jgrieves_> DjKritical: BUM
[07:31] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  once breezy is out, you wont get updates any more, but i'd still run it every week or so to catch any security fixes
[07:31] <Babbage> flankk, how do I check if the kernel is invoking udev?
[07:31] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  heh
[07:31] <kikinova1> Hi. I use Breezy Badger, and I wonder if I may safely install KMail (my preferred GUI mail app) in a GNOME environment without wrecking my system or creating a general mess
[07:32] <melvztechie> erick: lungsod bato
[07:32] <jgrieves_> DjKritical: search snaptic BUM
[07:32] <flankk> cafuego_, well the documentation is terrible.. where would I find out more about this?
[07:32] <HedgeMage> kikinova1: yep, I have a couple of kde apps
[07:32] <jgrieves_> will install to System > Administration
[07:32] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: how do they show up?
[07:32] <cafuego_> flankk: lm-sensors uses /etc/sensors.conf - that should have annotated chip entries and formulas.
[07:32] <phiqtion> eyequeue: can i change the wallpaper color to a vertical gradient blue? (login wallpaper)
[07:32] <frank23> misterdiff: I don't think the x2 is supported by regular smp kernel
[07:32] <erick> melvz lungsod bato saan yan
[07:32] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: I mean? What's the result in graphical terms?
[07:32] <eyequeue> kikinova1:  i've never done it, but it sounds safe ... you'll just end up with more libraries on the system
[07:32] <frank23> misterdiff: I really don't know anything about this though
[07:33] <melvztechie> erick: hehehe hirap bah hulaan, d2 sa norte , baguio
[07:33] <cafuego_> frank23: The install cd wouldn't use an smp kernel anyway.
[07:33] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: what do the menu bar fonts look like?
[07:33] <flankk> cafuego_, I'm using ACPI, and the /proc/acpi interface..
[07:33] <melvztechie> erick: how about u? loc plz?
[07:33] <Aven> hi
[07:33] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  "probably" :)  i'm not a gui guy really though, so don't know how
[07:33] <nalioth_zZz> melvztechie: erick english in here please
[07:33] <Aven> what's a good FTP server?
[07:33] <cafuego_> flankk: Ok. ANy new bioses available for the mobo?
[07:33] <melvztechie> sorry guys
[07:33] <Aven> for ubuntu.. (of course)
[07:33] <kikinova1> Aven: vsftpd
[07:33] <cafuego_> Aven: ftp.planetmirror.com
[07:33] <Aven> thanks!
[07:33] <HedgeMage> kikinova1: normally, they're just a smidge slower starting up when on a slow machine because the kde junk isn't already running
[07:33] <cafuego_> oh :-)
[07:34] <flankk> cafuego_, not an option..
[07:34] <flankk> cafuego_, the one installed is fully upgraded though.
[07:34] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: but they look ok?
[07:34] <phiqtion> eyequeue: xine or mplayer. they're not in the repository correct?
[07:34] <cafuego_> flankk: Then I think you next best bet is to just ignore that readout.
[07:34] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: I prefer asking first cause I'm on dialup, and downloading qt and everything will take loooooooooong :o(
[07:34] <jgrieves_> anyone know how to make GDM load specific X sessions for users, rather than using the one setup (Xorg) at startup
[07:34] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell phiqtion about repositories
[07:35] <mahangu> i got mplayer installed
[07:35] <mahangu> but no sound
[07:35] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  i think universe for both
[07:35] <kikinova1> HedgeMage: anyway... thanks for your help
[07:35] <HedgeMage> kingemer: they look fine :)  no problem.
[07:35] <HedgeMage> :)
[07:36] <erick> melvz from baguio? what is the wheather?
[07:36] <n1xt3r_> woah
[07:36] <melvztechie> erick: are you still there? hows ur *box* now?
[07:36] <flankk> cafuego_, is it likely it's simply subtracting 400 centigrade?  so -267C becomes 67C ?
[07:36] <erick> hows the weather?
[07:36] <Aven> for vsftpd
[07:36] <ce_imut> kar dandi koen matita
[07:36] <Aven> I don't need any compiling or anything, right? :P
[07:36] <erick> melvz yes , 67% of installing gnome desktop
[07:37] <cafuego_> flankk: Probably no more likely than subtracting 273 or adding 42.
[07:37] <kYotiK> Everyone who is using Ubuntu or plans to use Ubuntu please read the Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy" User Reviews at:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php?product=607     its only 1 more day until Breezy is final, so these reviews help us all in the long run!!
[07:37] <jgrieves_> thanks for that.....
[07:37] <erick> melvz im from bulacan
[07:37] <phiqtion> eyequeue: i manually went in sypnantic and added universe and multiverse. but xine and mplayer still not there. with ur file, should i copy paste into my sources list?
[07:37] <mahangu> real audio opens in mplayer
[07:38] <Razor-X> wow, first Knife of Dreams, then Breezy
[07:38] <Razor-X> what an excellent month :)
[07:38] <flankk> cafuego_, the gnome hardware sensor monitor has a sensor value offset for a reason I think..
[07:38] <erick> melvz are u man or girl? and how old r u?
[07:38] <frank23> phiqtion: did you update in synaptic?
[07:38] <erick> and ofcourse what is ur work
[07:38] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  in synaptic, now hit "reload"
[07:38] <cafuego_> flankk: Yes, but unless you have a way to actually calibrate it, you're still just guessing :-)
[07:38] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  in apt-get it would be "update"
[07:38] <flankk> cafuego_, 400 _is_ more likely because all the temps are close, and 67 off 200..
[07:39] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ you dont' have any ideas for my issue do you?  if not im hitting the sack :)
[07:39] <jgrieves_> call it a night
[07:39] <tritium> erick, can you please take the chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:39] <misterdiff> frank23, yeah it is. i've got it working on a gentoo build now
[07:39] <nalioth_zZz> erick: melvztechie: what language do you speak?
[07:39] <mahangu>  but ther si sno sound
[07:39] <tritium> that's Tagalog
[07:39] <nalioth_zZz> !ph
[07:39] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[07:39] <Hendric> woah... 29updates today..
[07:39] <erick> tritium Im sorry
[07:39] <misterdiff> frank23, just would rather have ubuntu instead but i can't get that to boot
[07:39] <tritium> erick, no problem
[07:39] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: I wasn't paying attention, what is your issue?
[07:39] <jgrieves_> anyone know how to make GDM load specific X sessions for users, rather than using the one setup (Xorg) at startup
[07:39] <erick> nalioth tagalog
[07:40] <jgrieves_> and if user Y logs in, X starts with ____ extensions
[07:40] <nalioth_zZz> erick: tagalog in #ubuntu-ph
[07:40] <phiqtion> eyequeue: i did reload. you're file? does it have mplayer or xine listed when i search for them?
[07:40] <erick> but we can communicate using english
[07:40] <EPSONLX300> how can i share my printer to network?
[07:40] <jgrieves_> i tried klling Xorg in Presession
[07:40] <Hendric> erick, pre ayaw tagalog dire.. hehehe english only lolx
[07:40] <jgrieves_> and starting up another process
[07:40] <cafuego_> erick: Ja, als je hier bent kun je beter alleen engels gebruiken (of nederlands, als het cht moet!)
[07:40] <jgrieves_> but that killed it
[07:40] <EPSONLX300> walay bisdak dire?
[07:41] <Hendric> bisdak present
[07:41] <tritium> !tagalog
[07:41] <ubotu> well, tagalog is spoken in #ubuntu-ph
[07:41] <EPSONLX300> lol
[07:41] <jgrieves_> It looks like gdm, which makes sense, is connected to the Xorg is sets up to begin with
[07:41] <EPSONLX300> Hendric,  kabalo ka share sa network printer?
[07:41] <mahangu> nalioth_zZz, i got mplayer installed, but no sound
[07:41] <EPSONLX300> im using lx 300
[07:41] <jgrieves_> But I really need to load up sepereate Xsession files for specifc users, for extensions
[07:41] <mahangu> plays .rmfiles fine though
[07:41] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: You cna give each user a ~/.xsession file with whatever they need to run in that.
[07:41] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, sshh.. ayaw dire kasaban ta.. english only here
[07:41] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell mahangu about sound
[07:41] <jgrieves_> yep been there
[07:41] <erick> hendric yeah Im sorry
[07:41] <nalioth_zZz> good night
[07:41] <EPSONLX300> pvt nalang Hendric
[07:41] <erick> cafuego Im sorry
[07:41] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer-586_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb
[07:41] <jgrieves_> problem is GDM dosn't use the .xsession file
[07:42] <tritium> !tell EPSONLX300 about tagalog
[07:42] <jgrieves_> X is already laoaded by the time it hiits
[07:42] <jgrieves_> and its already told it to load gnome-session
[07:42] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: Yes it does, KDM doesn't :-)
[07:42] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: The trick is to (... let me check)
[07:42] <jgrieves_> BAH
[07:42] <jgrieves_> GDM is accessibile for disabled users, KDM was not, last time I checked
[07:42] <erick> cafuego what language you used
[07:42] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  apt-cache show mplayer-586
[07:42] <mojo_> hey ppl
[07:43] <mojo_> i just got new Tango theme
[07:43] <mojo_> it rocks on my breezy
[07:43] <cafuego_> erick: nederlands
[07:43] <jgrieves_> screenshot mojo?
[07:43] <mojo_> hold on sec mate
[07:43] <Hendric> mojo, vista inspired theme looked nice too
[07:43] <phiqtion> eyequeue: i386 not available?
[07:43] <mojo_> aw...
[07:43] <mojo_> no host
[07:43] <cafuego_> jgrieves_:  d'oh, now X has crashed on the test box
[07:43] <mojo_> hold o
[07:43] <mojo_> I find a free host
[07:43] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  apt-cache show mplayer-386, then :)
[07:43] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ lol i crashed mine quite a few times :)
[07:44] <tritium> note: *.ubuntu.com, launchpad.net going down again for emergency network maintenance. ETD is 10 mins.
[07:44] <jgrieves_> Hendric: vista + transparent windows?
[07:44] <Trashcan> mmmm
[07:44] <cafuego_> sudo killall -9 Xorg
[07:44] <Trashcan> blurred composites
[07:44] <cafuego_> *whee*
[07:44] <jgrieves_> LOL
[07:44] <mahangu> nalioth_zZz, sound works fine in xmms
[07:44] <Hendric> jgrieves_, yeah... plus the cool office icons for gnome
[07:44] <Trashcan> lol cafuego
[07:44] <otep> hello, how do i share a network printer?
[07:44] <jgrieves_> Hendric link?
[07:45] <Trashcan> theres a vista theme?
[07:45] <phiqtion> eyequeue: the dvd codecs listed in the ubuntu guide are not found. any known name by u?
[07:45] <eyequeue> tritium:  getting things all set before tomorrow's deluge? ;)
[07:45] <jgrieves_> and when I see the text in red, how are you guys doing that is that a PM or anything?
[07:45] <Hendric> vista theme -> gnome.org
[07:45] <jgrieves_> i haven't used irc very well
[07:45] <tritium> eyequeue, not me, but the devs are.
[07:45] <eyequeue> phiqtion:  no, sorry
[07:45] <Trashcan> jgrieves_ : the red happens if someone says your name
[07:45] <Hendric> need to eat... gudluck guys.
[07:45] <erick> Hendric thanks
[07:45] <jgrieves_> Trashcan comes in red?
[07:45] <erick> cafuego k,
[07:46] <Trashcan> yup jgrieves_
[07:46] <ckrueger> ok, i've got a serious problem
[07:46] <jgrieves_> thanks
[07:46] <ckrueger> has anyone ever set up software RAID on  ubuntu 5.10?
[07:46] <foxm> i'm new to linux. how would i go about installing airsnort?
[07:46] <cafuego_> ckrueger: Yep.
[07:46] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ glad i could help you kill ur X sessions
[07:46] <eyequeue> tritium:  i've noticed the mirrors slowing for days, tomorrow will be like a ddos probably :/  good in one sense though
[07:46] <ckrueger> cafuego_, ok, then riddle me this...  I set up a RAID1 array
[07:46] <jgrieves_> Vista no theme found
[07:46] <ckrueger> well, 3 really...  one for boot, one for root, and one for swap
[07:46] <cafuego_> foxm: Start synaptic (from the System -> Admin menu), find 'airsnort' and install it.
[07:46] <jgrieves_> what am I looking for to see this Vista theme
[07:46] <tritium> eyequeue, exciting times
[07:47] <ckrueger> i set up the partitions accordingly
[07:47] <Hendric> jgrieves_, getting the link wait
[07:47] <cafuego_> ckrueger: I never claimed the one I set up actually worked ;-)
[07:47] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ thanks for looking into this for me
[07:48] <foxm> cafuego: i searched for airsnort but there were no resurlts
[07:48] <Hendric> on a P-pro 200MHz with 64MB RAM... xfce is flying...
[07:48] <xynamax> i need help...i'm trying to install xlib6g and I cant find where to download the package
[07:48] <jgrieves_> Hendric awesome
[07:48] <ckrueger> is this because it's building it?
[07:49] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/universe/a/airsnort/airsnort_0.2.6-1_i386.deb
[07:49] <Hendric> but firefox is killing it.. so fired up opera..
[07:49] <DjKritical> when you do a modprobe, does that load the module into the kernal everytime you boot up?
[07:49] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell foxm about repositories
[07:49] <cafuego_> foxm: Then you need to go into Settings -> Repositories (in synaptic) and make sure 'universe' and 'multiverse' are enabled in the sections.
[07:49] <tritium> DjKritical, no.  For that, add the module name to /etc/modules
[07:49] <erick> nalioth sharing of printer possible with samba? if yes how?
[07:49] <eyequeue> foxm:  universe
[07:49] <Proteque> Hendric: yeah. opera is nicer to the system
[07:49] <cafuego_> !info airsnort
[07:49] <ubotu> airsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 180 kB
[07:49] <DjKritical> tritium, thats
[07:49] <Proteque> Hendric: and a better browser imho
[07:49] <DjKritical> tritium, thanks
[07:49] <tritium> np
[07:50] <xynamax> i need help...i'm trying to install xlib6g and I cant find where to download the package
[07:50] <ckrueger> does anyone know why setup would hang at the end after installing on a software RAID1 array saying "Running mdcfg..."?
[07:50] <cafuego_> foxm: Also, the wireless driver for your card needs to support monitor mode (not all do)
[07:50] <ckrueger> does it take a while to run in 2 200 gig drives?
[07:50] <Hendric> Proteque, but a headache with plugins.. just for flash.. took me 20 forums to get working
[07:50] <erick> Hendric I agree with Proteque and there is new features you can use the speak cmd
[07:50] <Proteque> Hendric: perhabs. I dont use flash
[07:50] <cafuego_> ckrueger: switch to alt-F2; start a shell, see what's running.
[07:50] <Proteque> Hendric: in my experience flash is only used for commersials and lame pages.
[07:51] <jgrieves_> lol
[07:51] <Madpilot> Hendric: I used the Flash file off Macromedia's site, and it installed easily
[07:51] <Madpilot> Hendric: with Opera on Ubuntu, that is
[07:51] <jgrieves_> dont forget the spank the monkey games!
[07:51] <Hendric> now i got opera with flash, mplayer (video streams), java.... but took me d whole day to get them working
[07:51] <erick> what is the meaning of lol?
[07:51] <ckrueger> cafuego_, the moment i did it, and was about to hit enter to activate the console, it switched to INIT6
[07:51] <Proteque> jgrieves_: how could I forget :D
[07:51] <ckrueger> i guess that means it was finishing?
[07:51] <Trashcan>  opera takes less resources?
[07:51] <cafuego_> ckrueger: <heh>
[07:51] <Hendric> Madpilot, doesn't for me.. segmentation fault after installing flash from macromedia
[07:51] <jas_> Can someone help me?
[07:51] <cafuego_> ckrueger: .. so its rebooting now.
[07:51] <hondje> I like Epiphany, great browser and real light
[07:52] <seethru> jas_: whats up?
[07:52] <ckrueger> cafuego_, yeah, that's what i t looks like...  now i get "error loading operating system"
[07:52] <Proteque> Trashcan: seems like it. never testet if it actually do though.
[07:52] <Madpilot> Hendric: Breezy or Hoary?
[07:52] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ not trying to bug you, but are you still working iwth me, or should I hit it tonight?
[07:52] <Trashcan> hmm
[07:52] <erick> Trashcan thats true unlike with firefox
[07:52] <cafuego_> ckrueger: woot, no bootlader.
[07:52] <Trashcan> cooool
[07:52] <Trashcan> this machine is sloooooowwwwwwwww
[07:52] <jas_> I am trying to install the Nvidia Linux graphics driver
[07:52] <Hendric> breezy Madpilot.
[07:52] <Trashcan> 900mhz p3
[07:52] <ckrueger> cafuego_, but at this point i can set up a bootloader on the software RAID, right?
[07:52] <tritium> !tell jas_ about nvidia
[07:52] <jgrieves_> Trashcan you ever read The Stnd?
[07:52] <Razor-X> Madpilot: there's absolutely nothing wrong with Opera anymore, you know
[07:52] <Trashcan> nosir
[07:52] <Razor-X> i'm surprised it hasn't become more of a staple, as of late
[07:52] <Proteque> Trashcan: 900mhz P3 is not that slow actually if you have enough mem.
[07:52] <cafuego_> jas_: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'
[07:53] <jgrieves_> Trashcan one of the characters is Trashcan man :)
[07:53] <Trashcan> half a gig... i just like to complain
[07:53] <Trashcan> lol jgrieves_
[07:53] <Proteque> Trashcan: hehe okay. well if it ease your pain.
[07:53] <Trashcan> Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:53] <Proteque> Trashcan: download package for ubuntu at opera.com
[07:53] <Trashcan> roger
[07:53] <Trashcan> thanks
[07:53] <Madpilot> Hendric: I'm still running Hoary, and Opera+Flash works great - I'm going to be very, very cautious about updating to Breezy, because I can't function without Opera
[07:53] <cafuego_> ckrueger: It should not have rebooted until installation was done (including a boot loader)
[07:54] <Hendric> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1088 <-- get this then this --> http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/534 <-- cool vista inspired.
[07:54] <Madpilot> !tell Trashcan about opera
[07:54] <ckrueger> cafuego_, i think it had, but i hear of problems booting off of a software RAID arra
[07:54] <ckrueger> y
[07:54] <Hendric> well opera is working great on my breezy...
[07:54] <foxm> thanks everyone
[07:54] <Trashcan> hey thanks madpilot
[07:54] <jas_> It says I need to turn off Xsession
[07:54] <Madpilot> Trashcan: np
[07:54] <cafuego_> ckrueger: Nah, with lilo that works just fine (I do it on multiple machines).
[07:54] <jgrieves_> cool
[07:55] <erick> hendric does sharing of printer possible with samba
[07:55] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ not trying to bug you, but are you still working iwth me, or should I hit it tonight?
[07:55] <Hendric> erick, of course
[07:55] <erick> how?
[07:55] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: Nah, my brain is fied and the test box isn't cooperating.
[07:55] <erick> im going to edit the smb.conf?
[07:55] <jgrieves_> ok, can you point me anywhere for tomrorow searching?
[07:55] <ckrueger> cafuego_, are the devices labeled "md0", "md1", etc?
[07:55] <Hendric> erick, yeah..
[07:55] <cafuego_> ckrueger: yep
[07:55] <EPSONLX300> erick do we have common probs  printer sharing?
[07:55] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ GDM's configuration doesn't really mention it
[07:56] <Hendric> smb.conf does it all to share printers or folders with specific security..
[07:56] <erick> yes
[07:56] <jgrieves_> but you sound pretty confident that it can be done ?
[07:56] <ckrueger> cafuego_, is there any kind of rescue environment on the ubuntu disc from which i can fix lilo?
[07:56] <EPSONLX300> i need to know howto share my LX 300+ shared to network pls help me
[07:56] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: basically, if you have a .xsession, it SHOULD read that. Previously it did that just fine on my machine.
[07:56] <Hendric> i better start eating.. before my parasites get mad.
[07:56] <jgrieves_> really? crud, just an .xsession in their directory
[07:56] <EPSONLX300> Hendric, where can i find smb.conf folder?
[07:56] <tga> EPSONLX300, use cups to get it working, then export it with samba
[07:56] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:56] <EPSONLX300> tga tell me how
[07:56] <cafuego_> ckrueger: You can boot the install cd, start a shell and do whatever needs doing.
[07:56] <jgrieves_> hmm well i'll give it a go tomororw :)
[07:57] <tga> EPSONLX300, can you print from linux?
[07:57] <EPSONLX300> next step Hendric to that
[07:57] <ckrueger> cafuego_, is there any way to have it set up lilo as default, or do i need to do a manual config?
[07:57] <cafuego_> ckrueger: You'll need to run mdadm etc by hand, but if you know the partitons you;'ll be fine.
[07:57] <EPSONLX300> tga yes of his own pc not in network
[07:57] <dougsko> ok guys, im off to bed, good luck with everything
[07:57] <jgrieves_> cafuego_ thanks, did you have to stop X, or just have your own .xsession file in ur home directory?
[07:57] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, first of all.. make sure that you can print locally...
[07:57] <EPSONLX300> yes it is printing locally
[07:57] <EPSONLX300> done
[07:58] <cafuego_> jgrieves_: With an .xsession in my homedir, it sues that. if none, it sues the system default (gnome).
[07:58] <gurubie> Does Breezy updated have a graphical GRUB menu or is it just text?
[07:58] <EPSONLX300> whats the next step to client Hendric
[07:58] <jgrieves_> cafuego_, noted, thanks
[07:58] <Hobbsee> gurubie: just text
[07:58] <jgrieves_> nigiht all
[07:58] <Hobbsee> gurubie: but you can always uncomment the colours section so it's made of pretty colours
[07:58] <jgrieves_> thanks for help
[07:58] <Trashcan> did anyone pull up that vista theme?
[07:59] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36189.html <-- helpful
[07:59] <spackest> so, dumb question, if I have a box that is 5.04 and another that is 5.10, if I copy the 5.10 sources.list to the 5.04 box and do apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade, will the 5.04 box become 5.10?
[07:59] <aftertaf> spackest:  yes
[07:59] <spackest> that kicks
[07:59] <gurubie> How do I install a graphical GRUB menu in Breezy?
[07:59] <Trashcan> ubotu: tell spackest about breezy
[07:59] <spackest> really?  wow
[07:59] <gogeta> lol
[07:59] <aftertaf> apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[08:00] <gogeta> hi all
[08:00] <Hendric> EPSONLX300, http://ubuntuguide.org/sample/smb.conf_sharepublicfoldersreadwritesecurityuser <-- helpful too...
[08:00] <spackest> really?  apt-get dist-upgrade will magically move me to 5.10?
[08:00] <gogeta> yep
[08:00] <spackest> I don't even need the sources dance?
[08:00] <aftertaf> gurubie:  you can install a grub splash package and then you say which png file you want as a backdrop
[08:00] <Hendric> spackest, amazing eh?
[08:00] <gogeta> apt-get dist-upgrade prety mutch updates any linux distro that uses apt
[08:00] <spackest> what a country!
[08:00] <Hobbsee> spackest: you do need the sources dance
[08:00] <aftertaf> spackest:  you can just change the word hoary in each line of sources to breezy ;)
[08:00] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell spackest about upgrade2breezy
[08:01] <aftertaf> hi Hobbsee :)
[08:01] <ckrueger> cfuego_, ok, i booted into expert mode and couldn't find any binaries that i could use...  no fdisk/cfdisk, no grub, no lilo
[08:01] <Hobbsee> hi aftertaf...this must be the time to go !start a desktop war again!
[08:01] <gogeta> breezy is 6.10 right
[08:01] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:01] <gurubie> Why would my grub menu be black/blank when no graphic file is specified?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> gogeta: no, 5.10
[08:01] <gogeta> oh
[08:01] <ckrueger> cfuego_, i'm thinking i'm just going to set it up on one drive and configure RAID1 in software later, would this work?
[08:01] <Trashcan> lol
[08:01] <ksmurf> has anyone complained about the screensaver locking and not accepting their password to unlock?
[08:01] <Hendric> 6.10 might be the pink panther.. breezy is 5.10
[08:02] <gurubie> aftertaf, That sounds cool.
[08:02] <aftertaf> !start a desktop war
[08:02] <ubotu> blackbox is much better than gnome!
[08:02] <aftertaf> like that?
[08:02] <aftertaf> lol pink panther
[08:02] <Hendric> lol blackbox is as fast as console
[08:03] <gogeta> why is one makked 6.10
[08:03] <aftertaf> gurubie:   grub-splashimages is the package.
[08:03] <gogeta> if your only in 5.10
[08:03] <aftertaf> gogeta:  there isnt one yet 6.10
[08:03] <ckrueger> cafuego_, ok, i booted into expert mode and couldn't find any binaries that i could use...  no fdisk/cfdisk, no grub, no lilo
[08:03] <ckrueger> cafuego_, i'm thinking i'm just going to set it up on one drive and configure RAID1 in software later, would this work?
[08:03] <Trashcan> viisssssssttaaaa theeemmmmee :p
[08:03] <gogeta> some ftp musta misnamed it
[08:04] <gogeta> oh well
[08:04] <ksmurf> when my laptop blanks I have to restart X because my password is not accepted
[08:04] <gogeta> downloading dvd iso
[08:04] <gogeta> ripping out fedora
[08:04] <cafuego_> ckrueger: No, you would need to ste up a single-disk raid1 now, then add a second raid partition to thats et later.
[08:04] <gurubie> aftertaf, That more than just pics?
[08:05] <aftertaf> gurubie:  compliant pics ;)
[08:05] <aftertaf> after you need to modify your grub conf
[08:05] <samu2> So is breezy coming out tomorrow?
[08:05] <ckrueger> cafuego_, ok, then in that case, i'd like to figure out a way to get this thing booting...  the expert mode and command prompt off the CD seems completely useless
[08:05] <Trashcan> supposedly yes samu2
[08:06] <yapyccky_> hello!
[08:06] <Trashcan> hi!
[08:06] <aftertaf> ksmurf:  odd. disable 'need password when quitting screensaver'
[08:06] <yapyccky_> guys, i get always this error message: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: BIOS handoff failed
[08:06] <yapyccky_> what does it means?
[08:06] <cafuego_> ckrueger: You need to have access to the mdadm command. Then manually set up md0/md1 using mdadm.
[08:06] <ckrueger> ok
[08:06] <cafuego_> ckrueger: Once that's done, you should be able to mount /dev/md0 and/or md1, then access the commands that were installed.
[08:07] <spackest> so, I guess I didn't really need to burn those 5.10 cds, huh? :)
[08:07] <Hendric> wait!!! i got the preview release then update ALL possible updates... today i got 29 more.. tomorrow i dunno.. if i do all this upgrade...am i equal to the stable release????
[08:07] <aftertaf> spackest:  yes you did, for your friends ;)
[08:07] <gogeta> you can use dist upgrade
[08:07] <aftertaf> Hendric:  yes
[08:07] <cafuego_> ckrueger: if it never got around to installing anything, just re-do the whole thing via the installer interface.
[08:07] <spackest> I plug for ubuntu
[08:07] <yapyccky_> can anyone help me?
[08:07] <aftertaf> plug away :)
[08:07] <spackest> used to plug for debian
[08:07] <Hendric> cool.. forget the ISO... i better wait for shipit..
[08:07] <aftertaf> ask yapyccky_ ...... :)
[08:07] <ckrueger> cafuego_, it did, but it's restricted to the files on the CD since i'm in the rescue environment
[08:07] <cafuego_> Ha. The ISO takes 1 hour. Shipit takes 2 months.
[08:08] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : i did :-) i said that i get everyday this error message during boottime : ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: BIOS handoff failed
[08:08] <spackest> that server (don't install hardly anything) option sold me on my first install
[08:08] <gogeta> 1hr what ftp you on
[08:08] <cafuego_> ckrueger: *nod* that's why you need to manually run mdadm, to set up the raid devices, so you can mount them.
[08:08] <gogeta> i can get dvd iso in under a hr
[08:08] <ckrueger> cafuego_, and there's no mdadm tool anywhere, in /sbin, /bin, /usr/sbin/, /usr/bin
[08:08] <aftertaf> oki yapyccky_ got scrolled away... ;)
[08:08] <erick> Im installing gnome-desktop and its freeze on 99% what is this
[08:08] <gurubie> I put "splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/ubuntu_usplash_grub.xpm.gz" in the "menu.lst" but still get all black at grub menu time. What's going on?
[08:08] <Hendric> cafuego_, i got the preview.. then i updated all packages.. then i burned the /var/cache/apt/archive... hehehe
[08:09] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  its your usb2.0 controller. Do you have any hardware connected to usb2 at boot time?
[08:09] <cafuego_> ckrueger: perhaps not extracted yet, switch to Alt-F2 and make sure you cna access the 'Partition Disk' menu and see partitions there.
[08:09] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : mouse
[08:09] <Hendric> the updates are breaking the SPCA5XX fix...
[08:10] <ksmurf> that's better
[08:10] <ckrueger> i switched to the console and typed "find / | grep mdadm"
[08:10] <ckrueger> and couldn't find anything
[08:10] <ksmurf> it still asked for a passwork but it let me in this time
[08:10] <aftertaf> gurubie:  i dont know..... try a different splash srceen.
[08:10] <jas_> I need some help again
[08:11] <aftertaf> some didnt work for me, one did so i kept it ;)
[08:11] <gurubie> Is this a conflict with Nvidia drivers?
[08:11] <cafuego_> ckrueger: Did tyou progress the install to the point where the partitioner is started? if not, those commands won't be available yet.
[08:11] <jas_> Umm kinda
[08:11] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : can it depends on my mouse? strange, cause it works pefecly...
[08:11] <jas_> When I rebooted my pc
[08:11] <ckrueger> ahh, i'm seeing how this works
[08:11] <ckrueger> i think i can figure out some stuff from here
[08:11] <jas_> Its all text like a different runlevel with other linux distros
[08:12] <ckrueger> i'm good with grub, suck with lilo
[08:12] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  yeah. werid. If all works ok, dont worry...... but maybe file a bug on bugzilla...
[08:12] <aftertaf> !bug
[08:12] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[08:12] <ckrueger> so as long as i can install grub i'm good
[08:12] <Trashcan> hmm
[08:12] <Trashcan> opera is neat
[08:12] <Trashcan> it's pretty with the gnome theme
[08:13] <Hendric> aftertaf, bout the synaptic error.. i was trying to address that 3 days ago..
[08:13] <aftertaf> Hendric:  which error??
[08:13] <duncanm> so eclipse works from the command line, but not from the gnome menu
[08:14] <sean13_> Hey all
[08:14] <Hendric> aftertaf, "cannot run /usr/bin/synaptic as root: child process terminated with 100 status" on every exit of synaptic...
[08:14] <erick> hi sean
[08:14] <jas_> Can anyone help me get it back so its GUI again I don't know how to get it back
[08:14] <aftertaf> Hendric:  you running with sudo? or in a root term?
[08:14] <Hendric> aftertaf, hope this is fixed on the final release... it happens on a fresh install
[08:14] <aftertaf> or from menu...?
[08:14] <aurax> anyone knows when using samba, when browsing i cannot see my box in 'my network places'
[08:15] <Hendric> aftertaf, normal user... clicked synaptic (menu) .. typed in the password... after quiting gets the error
[08:15] <Hackmo> I justu updated my laptop system and now my nets broke
[08:15] <Hackmo> I went into the networking manager but it doesn't list ath0
[08:15] <aftertaf> Hendric:  try sudo synatic in a terminal.....
[08:15] <aftertaf> +p
[08:15] <Hackmo> anyone got any idea?
[08:16] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  look in /etc/networking/interfaces... is there an eth0 declared?
[08:16] <Hendric> aftertaf, i did all that... it only happens when using the full path
[08:16] <aftertaf> odd as blue cheese Hendric .....
[08:16] <aftertaf> (which is quite odd, must admit)
[08:16] <jas_> Can anyone help me get Ubuntu fixed?
[08:16] <Hendric> aftertaf, i think i told you about this that its the USB thats causing it
[08:17] <esac_> i upgraded from hoary to breezy. I used to be able to SSH over the internet, now I can't (i can ssh locally however). Any ideas ?
[08:17] <yapyccky_> thx aftertaf, thx for your help
[08:17] <kvidell> /s 4
[08:17] <kvidell> er..
[08:18] <_native_> ?
[08:18] <aurax> erick your still around ?
[08:18] <Hackmo> aftertaf, /etc/networking/interfaces doesn't exist
[08:18] <aftertaf> Hendric:  usb? even odder...
[08:18] <_native_> really?
[08:18] <yapyccky_> i've another question for all chan
[08:18] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  odd too!
[08:19] <yapyccky_> im working on a asus laptop,3.2 ghz ht
[08:19] <kvidell> so drunk, hehe.. *takes a seat and stays quiet*
[08:19] <Hendric> aftertaf, tried it 15x now... install breezy with an unsupported USB device plugged in.. then you get that strange error...
[08:19] <Hackmo> aftertaf, it all worked fine up until a few minutes ago when I installed the latest updates
[08:19] <yapyccky_> i dunno why but ububtu, and linux in general, works more slowly than windows
[08:19] <phiqtion> how can i get my wireless WAP connection working and not WEP
[08:19] <jas_> I am missing S13gdm How do I get it back?
[08:19] <yapyccky_> there are any tricks to make it faster?
[08:19] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  try this::    sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:20] <Hendric> aftertaf, i tried 3 unsupported USB devices while installing... gives out the same error... supported devices doesn't thou.
[08:20] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  have you installed the kernel for your processor type?
[08:20] <gurubie> I'm guessing I need to use the "legacy" nvidia-glx package.
[08:20] <aftertaf> Hendric:  weird, you filed a bug?
[08:20] <aftertaf> gurubie:  depends on gfx card, what do u have?
[08:20] <Hackmo> aftertaf, doen that but it did not help
[08:20] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : im working on i386 kernel, another "maybe " problem is that my swap is just 120mb (my ram is 512mb)
[08:20] <Hendric> aftertaf, haven't, maybe they won't believe it.
[08:20] <jas_> I am missing S13gdm How do I get it back?  Or do I have to re-install??
[08:21] <eyequeue> update-rc.d
[08:21] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  strange that... i just updated and all is good. Is your eth0 static or dhcp?
[08:21] <cafuego_> jas_: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/gdm<TAB>'
[08:21] <Hackmo> aftertaf, there is a light on my wifi card that lights up every 5 seconds so the laptop must still see it
[08:22] <Hackmo> it's my ath0 and it's dhcp
[08:22] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  wifi?   ok.
[08:22] <yapyccky_> aftertaf may it be a problem?
[08:22] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  better to have a bit more swap. and get the kernel package for your kernel....
[08:22] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  linux-k7 / 686
[08:22] <phiqtion> how can i get my wireless WAP connection working and not WEP>
[08:22] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : i'll go in synaptic and try to install it
[08:23] <Hackmo> aftertaf, I just check on my hoary desktop and that doesn't have /etc/networking either ?
[08:23] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  cant help you with wifi, never ever set one up :/
[08:23] <yapyccky_> then i'll ask u how is possible to increase swap now with my distro up
[08:23] <aftertaf> /etc/network ...........   my bad
[08:23] <Christophe971> hi. Is there a list of packages wich is preinstalled on the Breezy Distribution ? Or a list of package wich is present on the install cd ? (i'd prefer this)
[08:23] <Hackmo> aftertaf, ah ok thanks anyway
[08:23] <_native_> im a wifi guy
[08:23] <jas_> It says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[08:24] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  cat /etc/network/interfaces
[08:24] <damo21> i know it involves iwconfig instead of ifconfig
[08:24] <damo21> :P
[08:24] <_native_> i suggest the book wi-foo. its very good.
[08:24] <eyequeue> Christophe971:  was there a file named manifest* on your mirror?
[08:24] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : why linux k7? if my laptop is P4
[08:24] <aftertaf> Hendric:  they will. or at least theyll contact you for more info.
[08:24] <Christophe971> eyequeue: i don't have mirror
[08:24] <cafuego_> jas_: did gdm... expand into an actual .deb filename when you pressed tab?
[08:24] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:   linux-k7 / 686 ... in your case, 686
[08:25] <phiqtion> Can i see any available wireless networks in range with Ubuntu?
[08:25] <kwilliams0> hey all...new to this.  Tried installing ubuntu 5.10 on my Toshiba Tecra laptop...it loads all right, and within 20 seconds shuts down.  Anyone here of this, or have ideas to troubleshoot?
[08:25] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : so, not linux-686-smp?
[08:25] <eyequeue> Christophe971:  let me find you a file then
[08:25] <Hackmo> aftertaf, interface is listed when I do an ls in /etc/network but it says it's not a directory
[08:25] <Christophe971> eyequeue: what are you searching for ?
[08:25] <Christophe971> i just searching for a list
[08:25] <Christophe971> what package are avaible on breezy install cd
[08:26] <jas_> no
[08:26] <jas_> It didn't cafuego
[08:26] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  smp is for multiprocessors. Do ou have 2 proc?
[08:26] <No1Viking> I have Breezy and am trying to view streaming videos in WMV or Realaudio. I have Mplayer and Realplayer installed, stil it does not work. Where can I find instructions?
[08:26] <yapyccky_> aftertaf : in xp i see 2 processors
[08:26] <Trashcan> if we're already running breezy, will we need to dist-upgrade tomorrow?
[08:26] <cafuego_> jas_: Ok. 'sudo apt-get install rcconf'; sudo rcconf. make sure gdm is on.
[08:27] <cafuego_> aftertaf: probably HT.
[08:27] <Hendric> aftertaf, does video ram matter for increasing speed??  e.g. 64MB and 128MB.. does it help increase gnome speed??
[08:27] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  its a file......     open with cat, just to see....
[08:27] <cafuego_> yapyccky_: Due to bugs, hyperthreading is disabled on SMP kernels.
[08:27] <Hackmo> aftertaf, yeah sorry i'm being a bit slow tonight
[08:27] <cafuego_> Hendric: No.
[08:27] <aftertaf> yapyccky_:  follow cafuego_ on this, much more an expert on linux in general that me anyway ;)
[08:27] <yapyccky_> ok aftertaf :-D
[08:27] <Licker> would whats the command to stop services?
[08:27] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  lol, me too.
[08:27] <Hendric> cafuego_, so i better increase RAM... and forget about the video card, right??
[08:28] <Hackmo> aftertaf, it has "auto ath0" at the end of the interfaces file
[08:28] <cafuego_> Licker: sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop
[08:28] <yapyccky_> so cafuego_ : -) what kernel should i install? sorry for such a questions...
[08:28] <cafuego_> Hendric: How much ram do you have?
[08:28] <eyequeue> Christophe971:  look at the appropriate list and manifest files for your platform near the bottom of http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[08:28] <phiqtion> Can i see any available wireless networks in range with Ubuntu?
[08:28] <HrdwrBob> phiqtion: it's in the drop down box in the network config
[08:28] <jas_> When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf
[08:28] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  rubbish idea i know, but has a reboot helped at all?
[08:28] <Hendric> 128MB + 256MB RAM on my server + 128MB video card
[08:29] <aftertaf> 128M video ram is more than enough.....
[08:29] <cafuego_> yapyccky_: If you insist of having HT (it's not really faster during normal use) you'll need to either wait until the bugs are resolved OR conpile yer own kernel.
[08:29] <aftertaf> imho
[08:29] <Hendric> if the video ram doesn't matter then i better pull it out and use the onboard...
[08:29] <cafuego_> Hendric: 384Mb should be fine for Gnome.
[08:29] <Hackmo> aftertaf, I tried a reboot but it didn't help
[08:29] <jas_> When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf
[08:29] <Christophe971> eyequeue: oh yesss i've avoided that , thanks :)
[08:29] <yapyccky_> cafuego_ : i dont need it if u tell me its not so important. so its enought for me linux-i686, right?
[08:30] <aftertaf> kwilliams0:  try checking the md5 checksum of the iso, eventually burn another CD. could also be a hardware pb. Hard to tell...
[08:30] <Hendric> well ok... for 384MB i feel sad for my swap space.. coz it doesn't swap anymore
[08:30] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  does dmesg show you anything?
[08:30] <Licker> cafuego_: is there a commmand to stop ALL services?
[08:30] <aftertaf> Licker:  shutdown -h now ?
[08:30] <damo21> i have 512MB
[08:31] <damo21> + 128MB video
[08:31] <flonejek> umm, I have a sapphire 9600 XT and it used to work with fglrx but after a breezy update I keep getting "Operation not permitted" from "sudo modprobe fglrx" and I've tried the official driver from atis site (make install) and that still gets the same error, is there something im missing?
[08:31] <yapyccky_> ok, i've installed...i'll reboot to check if it works good. thx alot for your patient :-)
[08:31] <kwilliams0> thanks aftertaf...I'll check the ISO now...Don't think it's hardware as I reformatted from Windows 2000 Pro (copied data to another machine) prior to installing.
[08:31] <Licker> after whats that command do?
[08:31] <yapyccky_> brb in few mins
[08:31] <flonejek> "sudo init 1" stops all services
[08:31] <aftertaf> Licker:  it shuts dow your linux :)
[08:31] <Licker> haha
[08:31] <aftertaf> with init1 you need root pw, no?
[08:31] <DrZeus> hi all.  Im trying to resize my HDD with partition magic for installing the ubuntu 5.10 preview.  Has anybody tried partition magic for making extra partitions?
[08:31] <Hackmo> aftertaf, nope dmesg shows nothing
[08:31] <flonejek> yah you do
[08:32] <Christophe971> ohhhh
[08:32] <aftertaf> Hackmo:  hmm... you need to find someone who can help you... i am as much in the dark on wifi as you were when you started with it... sorry :/
[08:32] <phiqtion> HrdwrBob: what drop down box?
[08:33] <Christophe971> don't tell me that gcc is already available  on the i386 breezy install cd ? :D
[08:33] <nnonix> Dr: The ubuntu installer will let you resize an existing partition and create one for the install. No need to use partition magic
[08:33] <Christophe971> ofmg
[08:33] <Hackmo> aftertaf, thanks for trying
[08:33] <flonejek> DrZeus: yah it works, but its easier if you shrink your win partition and just use the partition manager to create ubuntus partitions automatically
[08:33] <jas_> When I did the first line it says E: Coun't find package rcconf
[08:33] <DrZeus> nnonix-> i asked because I just have one partition with all the size used
[08:33] <flonejek> i think ubuntus part manager won't resize ntfs
[08:34] <DrZeus> and I cant split it or anything like that
[08:34] <DrZeus> doesnt let me
[08:34] <Slaj_R> i'm getting the "couldn't stat source package list file" error when starting synaptic.  I tried apt-get -f install, followed by apt-get update; but that doesn't work.
[08:34] <nnonix> DrZeus: Yep, you'll have an option early in the Ubuntu installation to resize an existing partition (make it smaller) and install Ubuntu in the freespace.
[08:34] <dell500> I need to update 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.4, but apt-get doesn't findi t
[08:34] <DrZeus> and Im kinda afraid of shrinking the partition because of losing my data
[08:34] <DrZeus> can that happen?
[08:34] <jas_> cafuego_ any ideas?
[08:34] <flonejek> if theres a power out it can
[08:35] <nnonix> DrZeus: ... meaning, the free space you create by making your existing partition smaller.
[08:35] <yapyccky> here I am, with 686 kernel
[08:35] <DrZeus> nnonix->doing that doesnt damage or do something to the actual data in the partition?
[08:35] <flonejek> if you can get your hands on hirens boot cd that has paragon partition manager which can resume shrinking after a power failure, but its harder to use than partition magic
[08:36] <jas_> Should I just reinstall my system and reinstall the Nvidia drivers?  I don't have anything else on there I'm worried about
[08:36] <nnonix> DrZeus: Yes, it can happen ... with any application, including Partition magic. All I can tell you is that I've done it and it works very nice.
[08:36] <aftertaf> Slaj_R:  check your sources.list against ubotu's message
[08:36] <DrZeus> pics, music, etc?
[08:36] <aftertaf> !tell Slaj_R about repos
[08:36] <Slaj_R> thanks
[08:36] <nnonix> DrZeus: If everything goes as it should, your existing partition will be made smaller and all your data will be intact.
[08:37] <DrZeus> ok, so in the ubuntu installer there is an option for shrinking the partition
[08:37] <flonejek> DrZeus: resizing just moves all your data to the start of the partition and then truncates the free space at the end from it so you can create other partitions
[08:38] <flonejek> DrZeus: yes, but I think it doesnt resize ntfs which is winXP's default
[08:38] <cycom> what the hell? why did VLC just turn into a macosx style interface that doesn't have any part that works?
[08:38] <cycom> I upgrade, and it dies.
[08:38] <flonejek> cycom: its the latest uild the wxvlc skin is broken
[08:38] <flonejek> it happened to me too
[08:38] <flonejek> use totem-xine for now
[08:38] <DrZeus> flonejek: moving the data can affect it?
[08:38] <thux> Hi, wonder why gnome-terminal goes totally blue time-to-time when using remote irssi?
[08:39] <No1Viking> I have Breezy and am trying to view streaming videos in WMV or Realaudio. I have Mplayer and Realplayer installed, stil it does not work. Where can I find solutions?
[08:39] <cycom> flonejek: Gee, thanks. :)
[08:39] <flonejek> DrZeus: nah it wont damage your data
[08:40] <Madpilot> No1Viking: have you used the Ubuntu wiki's RestrictedFormats info/
[08:40] <No1Viking> Madpilot, no
[08:40] <flonejek> No1Viking: you can just use totem-xine
[08:40] <aftertaf> thux:  BSOD emulator... hidden easter egg maybe? :)
[08:40] <No1Viking> Madpilot, will do that
[08:41] <thux> aftertaf: could be :)
[08:41] <woodwizzle> anyone here running knoppmyth?
[08:41] <kwilliams0> aftertaf...the MD5Sum checked out--it was a valid ISO.    I was able to check that the power setting read 87% prior to shutting down, but that's it.  Would you recommend I try the 5.04 version?
[08:41] <DrZeus> flonejek: i see.  Thnx
[08:42] <aftertaf> kwilliams0:  the 5.10 may not be 100% stable..... but maybe test on another PC, see if crash at same point?
[08:42] <esac_> anybody know a kde alternative to firestarter ?
[08:42] <Madpilot> !tell No1Viking about restricted
[08:42] <thux> esac_: guarddog?
[08:42] <jas_> Can anyone help me?
[08:42] <flonejek> !about restricted
[08:42] <ubotu> flonejek: I give up, what is it?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> !restricted
[08:42] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:43] <jas_> I need some help I need some help getting my /ect/rd2.d/S13gdm file back
[08:43] <flonejek> ubotu: what is what? ;P
[08:43] <ubotu> flonejek: what are you talking about?
[08:43] <kwilliams0> aftertaf--I have some coworkers who installed it fine...  The Toshiba Tecra 8100 was a little difficult even for windows 2000 (video driver), so while bummed, I'm not suprised.  I'll download the stable release and cross my fingers.
[08:43] <jas_> For some reason it is gone and I can't get it bakc
[08:43] <jas_> back^
[08:43] <aftertaf> kwilliams0:  ok. keep us informed ;)
[08:43] <flonejek> ubotu: was just playing with server commands
[08:43] <ubotu> flonejek: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:44] <aftertaf> flonejek:  type !bot
[08:44] <Madpilot> !tell flonejek about ubotu
[08:44] <aftertaf> ;)
[08:44] <flonejek> !bot
[08:44] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to flonejek? I think not.  Reply to trashcan? I think not. Bot, plot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[08:44] <Trashcan> silly :p
[08:45] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:45] <Christophe971> tsss :=
[08:45] <Christophe971> :)
[08:45] <flonejek> anyone else had problems with fglrx module not lodading?
[08:45] <shreevatsa> Can I get libavcodec2 from somewhere?
[08:45] <orko> i need to replace aacraid.ko in the hoary install cd, whats the best way to do that? (the one shipped is buggy with my raid controller)
[08:46] <Trashcan> what's your favorite download manager
[08:46] <Trashcan> ?
[08:46] <flonejek> Trashcan: uh downloader4x is nice
[08:46] <Trashcan> thanks
[08:48] <flonejek> orko: maybe wait till breezy comes out tommorow and get that instead?
[08:48] <fmasi> how do i set my super video output to whork for my tb i have an ati radeom mobility X700
[08:49] <adrian_> i would like to know something, i want to use autocad but i dont like to use it on windows, i would like to use it on linux os, somebody can help me please? is it possible?
[08:49] <orko> flonejek: is there any way to find out what version of a particular driver will be in it? (aacraid)
[08:49] <webdwarf> adrian_; id be interested in that too...
[08:50] <Trashcan> lol
[08:50] <adrian_> yes, there is a Qcad, but people say that its not as good as autocad, so i think i need to install windows in my another partition...
[08:50] <Trashcan> downloader 4x opens, makes a funny noise, and closes
[08:50] <Trashcan> :
[08:50] <Trashcan> :o
[08:50] <Trashcan> Segmentation fault
[08:51] <Trashcan> lolol
[08:51] <damnhil> Do people here speak Englsih?
[08:51] <Trashcan> yes..
[08:51] <damnhil>  How do I pronounce the name "Caroline"?
[08:51] <Trashcan> kare-oh-line
[08:51] <flonejek> Trashcan: sorry i cant help you there, im in Mac OS X atm
[08:52] <Trashcan> :p
[08:52] <cafuego_> damnhil: depends on the language
[08:52] <Trashcan> or if it helps
[08:52] <Trashcan> kare-oh-l-eye-n
[08:52] <adrian_> do you want to pronounce at spanish?
[08:52] <adrian_> carolina
[08:52] <damnhil> Trashcan, I see, the last part of Caroline pronounces like air"line"
[08:52] <Trashcan> right
[08:52] <fmasi> how do i set my super video output to whork for my tb i have an ati radeom mobility X700
[08:53] <izm99> hey all, anybody be able to help me with nvidia problems?
[08:53] <starscalling> INTNET="<IP_ADDRESS>/24"  <<<--- what does that designate?
[08:53] <orko> i might try the latest rc breezy. the last preview i tried kernel panic'd instnatly
[08:53] <Trashcan> a range
[08:53] <starscalling> im running a linksys over here
[08:53] <starscalling> lets say its default gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:53] <Trashcan> <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS> i think (get a second opinion)
[08:53] <cafuego_> starscalling: network address + mask. addresses <IP_ADDRESS> through <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:53] <starscalling> o
[08:53] <Trashcan> ok
[08:54] <bimberi> starscalling: that your network ranges from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:54] <cafuego_> starscalling: /24 is an alternative way of writing <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:54] <Trashcan> why is it 24?
[08:54] <cafuego_> Trashcan: 32bit, first 24 are 1, last 8 are 0. = <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:54] <bimberi> each number represents 8 bits - so 24 covers the first 3 numbers
[08:54] <Trashcan> gotcha
[08:54] <izm99> when I set the driver to "nvidia", the monitor changes mode when starting gdm, but nothing EVER shows up and I have to hard reboot.  any ideas?
[08:55] <Trashcan> right
[08:55] <cafuego_> Trashcan: apt-get install 'ipcalc' for hours of fun.
[08:55] <Trashcan> lol
[08:55] <flonejek> izm99: probably because youre loading glx?
[08:56] <izm99> flonejek, yes, that's in my modules.  I just followed the directions on the wiki...  I'll comment it out and see what happens.
[08:57] <starscalling> so i would use say eth0 instead of ppp0 b/c i dont use that modem/dsl thing?
[08:57] <flonejek> izm99: i could be wrong its been a while
[08:57] <flonejek> starscalling: ya
[08:57] <izm99> flonejek, I don't think that did anything. :(
[08:58] <flonejek> izm99: actually use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:59] <izm99> flonejek, ok, I'll try that... once it's done checking the filesystem...
[08:59] <starscalling> crap
[08:59] <starscalling> i couldnt find a good config example of porting for firehol !_!
[08:59] <flonejek> izm99: and see if it gets the right modules, i just checked, you should load glx and dri but not Glcore for 3d acceleration
[09:00] <syli725> hi, some questoins about apt-get. I am new to apt-get. I used yum before. 1, where do I download the latest repository? does apt need it? source.list is the repository?  2. i saw apt-cache search and apt-file search , which one is going to search my local files and which one is going to search online repository? if i want to know what packages available online.
[09:00] <starscalling> im in the middle of this sh-3.00# thing
[09:00] <izm99> flonejek, so only comment out glcore?
[09:00] <starscalling> how do i clear out what im doing and not i repeat NOT save changes?
[09:00] <starscalling> ill find something to deal with this tomorrow or osmething !_!
[09:00] <shreevatsa> What's the address of the marillat repository? I mean, which one should I use; I'm on Hoary
[09:00] <arkais> hi
[09:01] <flonejek> izm99: yeah, but thats not your problem I think youve probably got the res wrong, the dpkg-reconfigure autodetects it which might fix it
[09:02] <Orborde> Question: I have an AMD64 processor, but I used the i386 Ubuntu so I'd have a fun 32-bit OS, since 64-bit is kind of malsupported. SO. Should I switch my kernel from the default i386 to something else, such as the i686 or K7 ?
[09:02] <flonejek> syli725: sources.list is the list of repositories apt checks, apt-cache searches your files, apt-file i have no idea, I don't thjink you can search online repositories
[09:02] <flonejek> Orborde K7 should work
[09:03] <Orborde> flonejek: Would something else be a better choice, perhaps?
[09:03] <arkais> someone can recommend me a virtual machine for install on windows,
[09:03] <Cavallo> hi
[09:03] <Cavallo> how I can install deb package if I have it on disk ?
[09:03] <arkais> i needed becouse , i want install linux without unistall windows
[09:03] <Cavallo> apt-get ?
[09:03] <arkais> jeje
[09:03] <cafuego_> Cavallosudo dpkg-i foo.deb
[09:03] <flonejek> Orborde k8 if its there, k is the amd line of procs
[09:03] <flonejek> Cavallo use dpkg -i
[09:04] <flonejek> "sudo dpkg -i <pathname to package>
[09:04] <flonejek> "
[09:04] <syli725> flonejek, thanks for reply. but how can I search a file that I haven't installed. for example, I know there is a program called something like "blah", but the actual package name is "blahte".  if i run apt-get blah, it won't find the package, and tell me there is no package called "blah"
[09:04] <Orborde> flonejek: Is K8 the 640bit?
[09:04] <flonejek> arkais: try qemu
[09:04] <Orborde> flonejek: 640bit...wow, that'd be powerful.
[09:05] <flonejek> lol no i think its 64 bit its in the poackage description
[09:05] <Licker> E: gforge-db-postgresql: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1  <--anyone know what that means?
[09:05] <Orborde> flonejek: I should probably nab the K7 then, right?
[09:05] <flonejek> syli: apt-cache search blah will list all matches in the name and theres a few more commandline tags for searching descriptions, it searches stuff you haven't got installed, the list of packages available.
[09:06] <flonejek> orborde: ya
[09:06] <Miles> Hi all, i'm installing some server software that requires MySQL4.0.26 and doesn't support the latest MySQL - using apt-get will grab the latest version from the repository i presume. Is there a way for me to specify that it must pull a specific version or shud i just download MySQL from the official website?
[09:06] <DShepher1> 1 day left for breezy. you guys think we going to make it in timehe release
[09:06] <DShepher1> 1 day left for breezy. you guys think we going to make it in time for the  release
[09:06] <Orborde> DShepher1: Who cares? I have broadband. Update things willy-nilly for all I care.
[09:06] <flonejek> Miles: you can use force package version in synaptic
[09:06] <syli725> flonejek, can you just teach me a little bit more about apt-get? because for yum. i just do yum search packagename.  I have no idea what apt-get is going to do.  ok. apt-cache search the list. but that is on my local machine. right? what happened the repository just added the new package that is i want to install.
[09:07] <Orborde> Is it just me, or is Breezy's GNOME major faster?
[09:07] <Cavallo> where I can find on internet package list and some tutorials how to create package for ubuntu ?
[09:08] <Grinak> gnome is faster for sure
[09:08] <Orborde> Grinak: Rockin'
[09:08] <snausages> kde runs faster on my ibook
[09:08] <Miles> flonejek > oh? thats great. ty
[09:08] <izm99> flonejek, for entering the BusID, if it's an AGP card, do I enter AGP:0:01:00.0 ?  lspci returns 0000:01:00.0
[09:08] <erick> Guys help need help, Just finish installing the gnome-desktop, after that I start the gui and then it freeze, vertical colored line instead of the graphics
[09:09] <Burgundavia> Cavallo, join #ubuntu-motu and ask taht question
[09:09] <Miles> Video card spec Erick?
[09:09] <flonejek> syli725: "apt-get update" will update your cache with the package list from the server, then "apt-cache search <package>" will find similar stuff to that name, and "apt-get install <package>" will install it, apt-cache just reads the repository database you sync with the servers, apt-get manages the packages for installing and whatnot
[09:10] <flonejek> izm99: I dunno, did it detect anything in dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:10] <ernstp> should eclipse really depend om mozilla-browser?
[09:11] <izm99> flonejek, no.  there's no default value.
[09:11] <flonejek> ernstp: yeah, it renders using the mozilla gecko engine
[09:11] <flonejek> izm99: try the lspci value, i dont thing you need AGP there
[09:11] <izm99> flonejek, ok
[09:11] <Miles> Whats the lowest spec machine u guys hav got a full Ubuntu running on? I've managed a 133mhz P1 with 32mb ram.
[09:11] <Grinak> that reminds me I have to find a good distro for putting on my spare ibook
[09:12] <syli725> flonejek, thank you very much. just a few more questions. 1, where is .deb packages going to be? download to where? 2, can I just download without installing? 3, how to install or update ubuntu package if i download a package alone. in rpm, i just do rpm -Uvh. 4, are you saying that if the online repository has a new package called "blah", i didn't run apt-get update first. so if i do, apt-get install blah. It will tell me "error no s
[09:12] <syli725> uch package". right?
[09:12] <flonejek> Grinak: ubuntu works pretty damn well on ppc
[09:12] <lemics_> only for the stupid therm_adt746x module
[09:13] <erick> Miles I don't know Im using HPBrio p3 933mhz built-in video
[09:13] <Miles> and it only freezes when the GUI loads eh?
[09:14] <erick> yap Miles once I issue the cmd start x its freeze and decide to reboot
[09:14] <flonejek> syli725:1. i think in /var/apt or something, 2. yes, use the tag --download-only, 3. use dpkg -i <package> and you can convert rpms to debs with "alien <rpmpackage.rpm> and it will output in the dir your in <rpmpackage.deb> 4. yep thats right
[09:15] <gurubie> I guess this ubuntu thing will do. :) Now K7 works (load it with the meta package,) Grub gui works, usplash works, "Legacy" Nvidia works direct 3D. Who Hoo!
[09:15] <erick> after that i got this error General_font failed and *t_kernel_font: failed and then it freeze after checking the battery state, it said scheduler system No such file or Directory
[09:16] <Miles> i'd say it def. a driver compat problem for which i'm largely useless (i run linux as a server stuck in a cupboard and ssh to it)
[09:16] <syli725> flonejek, thank you very much. I am using fedora now. plan to install kubuntu tonight. btw, just one more question. how to update a package if i have .deb. i do dpkg -U ?
[09:16] <ernstp> flonejek, but things in breezy that use that engine get it from the firefox libs!
[09:16] <gurubie> ..oh and less I forget 802.11 WiFi with the K7 set too.
[09:16] <Miles> Eric > Hav u done a re-install?
[09:17] <erick> no
[09:17] <flonejek> ernstp: yeah true, epiphanys kinda old though
[09:17] <erick> should i reinstall it
[09:18] <flonejek> syli725: yeah dpkg -i will ask to upgrade if package exists, I think -U would do the same
[09:18] <Miles> Eric > tough to say, i'm still kinda new to ubuntu, esp. in the driver/graphics side of things... anyone got any thoughts on this?
[09:18] <GTroy_>  http://tinypic.com/ei2sf6.jpg
[09:18] <Hendric> Miles, im on a P1 200MHZ with 64MB... got a GUI.. xfce hehehehe.. faster than win95
[09:18] <GTroy_> go there!!
[09:18] <syli725> flonejek, thank you very very much. see you. :)
[09:18] <Miles> GTroy> running v5.04
[09:18] <flonejek> syli725: no probs
[09:18] <GTroy_> no, running 5.10
[09:19] <Miles> GTroy> ah lucky u, i must pull down 5.10 tonight -looks awesome.
[09:19] <Hendric> Anyone here knows how to speed up Openoffice?? it loads like hell... abiword with similar features is lightning fast..
[09:19] <GTroy_> yeah it's nice
[09:19] <Miles> GTroy: i havent tried full on a P1 133 yet... perhaps i'll tru
[09:19] <cafuego_> Hendric: Buy a faster machine.
[09:19] <NoUse> Hendric OpenOffice2 has fixed some of those problems
[09:20] <erick> Miles thanks
[09:20] <Miles> Hendric: sys specs?
[09:20] <Madpilot> Hendric: OO is just a big app...
[09:20] <flonejek> erick: umm sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will walk you through your graphics card setup
[09:20] <Miles> Eric> apologies i cant b of help.
[09:20] <Hendric> NoUse, im on the most updated OO in breezy
[09:20] <ahmad> when i use apt-get to install packages like mysql or php4-gd i get the following error:The following packages have unmet dependencies
[09:20] <Hendric> i use abiword thou... faster than win  wordpad
[09:20] <NoUse> Hendric what are your sys specs?
[09:20] <nnonix> Hendric: 2 seconds for writer to open here
[09:21] <flonejek> ahmad: try running "apt-get -f install"
[09:21] <Hendric> P1 200MHZ with 64MB RAM EDO... 4GB HD...
[09:21] <erick> flonejek, I wish I can log on command line but its freeze on detecting the battery state
[09:21] <NoUse> Hendric thats your problem
[09:21] <flonejek> erick: type ctrl-alt-f1 then do it from tty1
[09:21] <Miles> Hendric: well, the fact that it even runs shud make u feel happy/.
[09:21] <ahmad> same thing
[09:21] <Hendric> lolx.. why can't they make it as fast as abiword... if they have the same features to offer...
[09:22] <nnonix> Hendric: Ouch!
[09:22] <lorenzod> Hendric, why not just use Abiword then?
[09:22] <NoUse> Hendric abiword is a word processor, OO is a fulll suite
[09:22] <Miles> Hendric: Cos OO is like a hundred times bigger and more mem intensiv than Abi
[09:22] <Hendric> except for abi which doesn't have a more detailed printing options...like black only. color draft etc...
[09:22] <flonejek> ahmad: sounds like your repos are conflicting, um try "apt-get update" then "apt-get -f install"
[09:22] <erick> flonejek Im not sure it will works becasue after ubuntu check for the battery it freeze
[09:22] <lorenzod> Abiword is superior in almost every way..
[09:22] <nnonix> Hendric: If Abiword was MS Office compatible it wouldn't be so fast.
[09:22] <cafuego_> Hendric: Honestly, why did you even TRY OOo on that?
[09:22] <erick> can abiword support msoffice
[09:22] <flonejek> erick: i meant from the frozen gnome
[09:22] <cafuego_> Hendric: machines with less than 256MB of ram need not apply.
[09:23] <aftertaf> Parisi:  ctcp ping?
[09:23] <lorenzod> erick, it does
[09:23] <jsgotangco> abiword can open *.doc
[09:23] <flonejek> erick: ctrl-alt-f1 should switch you out of xserver
[09:23] <Miles> *Kicks stupid P1*
[09:23] <ahmad> i did apt-get update
[09:23] <cafuego_> Does abiword open .odt?
[09:23] <Hendric> if they're is an abiword plugin which will enable full printing options.. i will forget about OpenOffice.. and one more thing.. Abiword is MSoffice compatible too...
[09:23] <ahmad> not solved
[09:23] <Miles> *goes to find an old celeron box*
[09:23] <Trashcan> ooh
[09:24] <lorenzod> cafuego_ it should do with 2.4, but haven't tried it yet.
[09:24] <aftertaf> plug n panic
[09:24] <cafuego_> Hendric: Word != Office.
[09:24] <nnonix> Hendric: there's more to MSoffice compatibility than being able to open the file.
[09:24] <flonejek> hendric: you can choose full printing options from your printer properties pane
[09:24] <ahmad> i get this error The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:24] <ahmad>   php4-gd: Depends: libgd2-xpm (>= 2.0.33) but it is not installable
[09:24] <Hendric> flonejek, cannot set color options etc.. like OO offers...
[09:24] <cafuego_> OOo is a full suite, with app scripting and macro support etc. Not just a word processor like abiword is. Don't compare apples with pears.
[09:25] <flonejek> ahmad: its tricky but each time it says that you gotta try instaling that package i.e. apt-get install libgd2-xpm would be your first step
[09:25] <ssh_rdp> hey , is there any way to add custom frequencies to scaling_available_frequencies ?
[09:25] <cafuego_> Mind you, OOwriter 2still takes a whole three seconds to start <heh>
[09:25] <flonejek> until you get to the blocking package
[09:25] <Hendric> i don't need to fully comply with MS standards. and i just type documents.. nothing special
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> omw
[09:26] <erick> flonejek what do you think should I reinstall it and use the default or reinstall and stick with the server mode
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> i have nx8220
[09:26] <Hendric> :) abiword more printing options... anyone?
[09:26] <cafuego_> Hendric: The abiword or koffice or even vim is fine.
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> ubuntu installer on hoary doesnt run
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> when it runs screen goes blank
[09:26] <johnsie2> Is there a way to update all my packages without using  the gui?
[09:26] <CaiN_SA> any ideas ?
[09:26] <cafuego_> johnsie2: yep, sudo aptitude
[09:26] <flonejek> erick: a straight reinstall should be fine, have you got ubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:27] <johnsie2> thanks
[09:27] <Razor-X> cafuego_: I have to say, after using a minimalistic WM, things like OO become bearable
[09:27] <flonejek> johnsie2 or "sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade"
[09:27] <flonejek> johnsie2 or "sudo apt-get update && sudo dist-upgrade" i mena
[09:28] <erick> yes before actually im using it on my pc
[09:28] <ssh_rdp> in windows i can lower the cpu frequency downto 100mhz
[09:28] <ssh_rdp> but there is a 600mhz lower limit in ubuntu
[09:28] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: In windows, do you use proprietary vendor software to do so?
[09:28] <HrdwrBob> I think you will find that it may not really go to 100mhz
[09:29] <ssh_rdp> yes
[09:29] <flonejek> i must go to uni now, later
[09:29] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: Then I think the software is probably lying. 99.9% sure HrdwrBob is right. Modern cpus don't scale down that far.
[09:29] <ssh_rdp> it is in 140mhz in normal usage playing mp3s and screensaver
[09:29] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: What cpu do you have?
[09:29] <jas_> Can someone help me?
[09:30] <ssh_rdp> centrino 1.7
[09:30] <jas_> cafuego good your still here
[09:30] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: You canc ehck thich speeds that scales to on the intel website. I bet it won't say 100 or 140 MHz
[09:30] <ssh_rdp> ok
[09:31] <jas_> I rewrote the whole file S13gdm
[09:31] <jas_> From the copy I have here on my laptop
[09:31] <jas_> And it still won't load it back into GUI
[09:31] <Hendric> Gyach-E on ubuntu made my system perfect.. with SPCA5xx fix.. webcam and voice chat worked like a charm... :)
[09:31] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: More likely the windows software scales to 600 MHz, then notices only 15% cpu load and rounds that to 140 MHz.
[09:31] <delmonico> how can I view A/CNAME records of a domain in the console? i forgot the command :/
[09:31] <cafuego_> delmonico: dig?
[09:32] <ssh_rdp> no:D
[09:32] <jas_> cafuego you were helping me earlier
[09:32] <ssh_rdp> i am just checking the centrino specs
[09:32] <jas_> My internet went out
[09:32] <cafuego_> jas_: Just symlink S13gdm to ../gdm
[09:33] <cafuego_> jas_: Don't put an ACTUAL file there
[09:33] <Syruss> anyone care to help me whttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74299&highlight=shfs+unstable ?ith this:
[09:33] <Hendric> cafuego_, will the spca5xx driver be fixed on tomorrow's release??
[09:33] <jas_> Can you tell me full command I am a bit new to Linux
[09:33] <Syruss> with this i mean:
[09:33] <Syruss> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74299&highlight=shfs+unstable
[09:33] <Syruss> :)
[09:33] <Licker> has anyone tried installing CGI:IRC?
[09:33] <cafuego_> Syruss: Don't use shfs; it makes the kernel crash.
[09:33] <Syruss> yes
[09:33] <Jedrick> How to play .dat file on vlc?
[09:33] <delmonico> cafuego_: yeah thanks
[09:33] <Syruss> cafuego_: that's not really a solution is it? :)
[09:34] <cafuego_> Syruss: Contact the authors, tell them their software is buggy?
[09:34] <Syruss> cafuego_: it's not though
[09:34] <C-Keen> moin.
[09:34] <Syruss> I've used it for years on redhat and gentoo
[09:34] <Syruss> flawlessly
[09:34] <cafuego_> Syruss: it is. It reliably crashes the kernel here as well.
[09:34] <Syruss> heh
[09:34] <cafuego_> Syruss: ... and it won't unmount.
[09:34] <Syruss> yer, I have the same problems
[09:35] <jas_> Can you tell me full command I am a bit new to Linux
[09:35] <Syruss> hopefully it'll be ironed out by the first release
[09:35] <jas_> cafuego
[09:35] <Syruss> cafuego_: try loading a file in emacs over a gnome-vfs mount
[09:35] <Syruss> :/
[09:35] <cafuego_> Syruss: Your mistake there is this "emacs" thing ;-)
[09:35] <Syruss> rofl
[09:35] <Syruss> or vim then, heh
[09:35] <Hendric> jas_, open a terminal and press tab repeatedly.. then answer Yes
[09:36] <jas_> I can't open a terminal
[09:36] <cafuego_> Syruss: If I have ssh access, i just run vim remotely.
[09:36] <Syruss> and if you say to me nano/gedit, this conversation is over
[09:36] <Razor-X> cafuego_: there is an emacs, only, certain people went blind from ``Vi fever'' :P
[09:36] <C-Keen> Syruss: why don't you use emacs' build in capability to open files via ssh?
[09:36] <Syruss> C-Keen: shfs is really much easier that messing around on a per-application basis
[09:36] <Cavallo> does ATI dirvers for 7000 series card exists?
[09:36] <cafuego_> Syruss: I'd keep wella way from shfs until that's fixed, though.
[09:37] <C-Keen> what is this shfs anyway
[09:37] <Syruss> yer, or until someone figures out something
[09:37] <Syruss> :p
[09:37] <cafuego_> Cavallo: the open 'ati' driver fully supports that (or should,a nyway)
[09:37] <Hendric> jas_, then ctrl+alt+f1... login then do the tab thing...
[09:37] <Syruss> shfs is cool
[09:37] <Syruss> :)
[09:37] <Syruss> look it up on google.
[09:37] <Cavallo> cafuego_: where I can get it ?
[09:37] <Syruss> it's similar to 'connect to server' thing in gnome
[09:37] <aurax> samba is kewl
[09:37] <aurax> hehe
[09:37] <cafuego_> Cavallo: it's on the xorg-driver-ati package.
[09:37] <aurax> what will happend if ill broadcast on my external ethernet subnet ?
[09:37] <aurax> hehe
[09:37] <Razor-X> Syruss: so it's using an SSH connected drive as an FS?
[09:38] <aurax> damn i got like 300 boxes widely opend
[09:38] <Hendric> cafuego_, will the spca5xx driver be fixed on tomorrow's release??
[09:38] <aurax> yummy!
[09:38] <Syruss> yer Razor-X
[09:38] <cafuego_> C-Keen: shfs is a userspace fs that mounts remote dirs via ssh. Nice in theory, buggy as hell in practice.
[09:38] <Syruss> but it's unstable in badger
[09:38] <C-Keen> shfs does not seem like a good solution to the problem
[09:38] <cafuego_> Hendric: Maybe.
[09:38] <Razor-X> Syruss: why not just manage the file using SFTP?
[09:38] <C-Keen> I'd rather use sfs for this purpose.
[09:38] <Razor-X> or SCP, whatever floats your boat
[09:39] <Jedrick> How to play .dat file movie? coz it wont play on any of my movie player like totem mplayer and vlc
[09:39] <cafuego_> Razor-X: well, shfs is transparent when it works.
[09:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Hey all.
[09:39] <izm99> flonejek, I tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it did not work.  same problem.
[09:39] <Razor-X> cafuego_: yeah, but in this case, it doesen't :P
[09:39] <cafuego_> Razor-X: yah
[09:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Tell Crys_Ubu_PC about bootloader
[09:39] <Hendric> izm99, wats your problem?
[09:39] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Yeah, didn't think so.
[09:39] <No1Viking> Whatever I try with I can not get streaming to work in Breezy.
[09:39] <C-Keen> Jedrick: a .dat file could be everything. If you have reason to think it is taken from a vcd try a vcd player
[09:39] <cafuego_> Crys_Ubu_PC: /msg ubotu help
[09:39] <BLUE_ICE> Hendric, what is the compatible model of LX300? LX1050?
[09:40] <RippinEmDaily21> whatup
[09:40] <izm99> Hendric, when I enable "nvidia" driver, computure freezes when starting x (gdm)
[09:40] <cafuego_> a .DAT from VCD is just an mpeg. Name it to .mpg and off you go.
[09:40] <Hendric> BLUE_ICE, not sure.. but a trial and error wouldn't be harsh
[09:40] <xuniluser> what should i download to view video cds
[09:40] <BLUE_ICE> hmmmmmmmmm
[09:40] <Jedrick> C-Keen: how can i play it on my computer?
[09:40] <Hendric> izm99, nvidia-glx? or the nv driver of xserver?? what's your Vcard???
[09:40] <BLUE_ICE> i got really have troubles in sharing printer to a network
[09:40] <No1Viking> Whatever I try with I can not get streaming to work in Breezy. I want to look at streaming Windows Media Video but I have no luck. HELP!!
[09:41] <Licker> Question: How do I change a folders access level?
[09:41] <ricardo> someone can recommend me a virtual machine?
[09:41] <C-Keen> Jedrick: use mplayer / totem / whatever.... maybe rename it as cafuego_ said
[09:41] <izm99> Hendric, I followed directions on wiki to apt-get install nvidia-glx.  my card is nvidia ti 4200 128MB agp
[09:41] <Hendric> No1Viking, add the restricted repo.. then apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer
[09:41] <Syruss> Razor-X: shfs is totally different, it means I can have a whole server's FS at /mnt/someserver , which makes everything on it available locally to everything....very useful, for example, I can open up an mp3/video file directly from the server etc
[09:42] <cafuego_> Rename it, double-click it, hey presto.
[09:42] <Syruss> I've used it a lot, trust me, it's the best thing ever :)
[09:42] <Hendric> izm99, did you 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'??
[09:42] <dayzz> cafuego: I can't copy .dat from vcd, why?
[09:42] <aurax> anyone here tried open-xchange?
[09:42] <Ex-Cyber> how can I limit the rate at which synaptic or apt-get downloads packages?
[09:42] <Cavallo> cafuego_: how I should know if Im using correct ATI drivers ?
[09:42] <ssh_rdp> yes the supported minimum frequency for centrino is 600mhz
[09:42] <cafuego_> Syruss: Well actually, if it mapped UIDs properly it would be nice. Until such time it's more of a gimmick.
[09:43] <izm99> Hendric, that just changes the driver to "nvidia" doesn't it?  I've done it before, but I'll do it again.
[09:43] <cafuego_> Cavallo: grep ati /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:43] <cafuego_> ssh_rdp: Ok, so the windows software just lies :-)
[09:43] <cafuego_> dayzz: incompetence?
[09:43] <jas_> I'm in text only no gui I can't get to a terminal..
[09:43] <jas_> Sorry I'm such a pain in the butt I just don't wanna reinstall
[09:43] <Hendric> izm99, it'll use the nvidia official driver.. rather than the xserver nv
[09:44] <jas_> bah sorry
[09:44] <jas_> cafuego if you said the command could you give it to me again?
[09:44] <Syruss> cafuego_: yeah but you can specify a uid/gid which is good enough as I generally only want to access the shfs mount as a specific user/group
[09:44] <jas_> I lost connection to the internet again
[09:44] <z4k4ri4> Where can I get w32codecs? In which repository
[09:44] <Hendric> izm99, normally you will know if it worked when you see the NVIDIA logo on startup
[09:44] <Madpilot> !tell z4k4ri4 about w32codecs
[09:44] <Syruss> food for thought anyway
[09:44] <jas_> cafuego if you said the command could you give it to me again?
[09:44] <izm99> well, it freezes on startup... nothing gets displayed.  ^^
[09:44] <RippinEmDaily21> sorry
[09:45] <Syruss> there's actually a very small project out there that links the gnome-vfs stuff into the real fs, although it doesn't look 'proper' enough to use :p
[09:45] <RippinEmDaily21> is there any girls on this chat
[09:45] <RippinEmDaily21> or what is this
[09:46] <Hendric> jas_, maybe your card isn't compatible with the nvidia-glx driver... like my old Pine Nvidia TNT2... can't even run with xserver NV driver.. bug i guess
[09:46] <jas_> umm it has nothing to do with the driver..
[09:46] <basvg> 'lo all... what would be the recommended way of switching from hoary to breezy... editting /etc/apt/sources.list and doing a apt-get distupgrade, or download the CD And do a fresh install ?
[09:46] <jas_> Its because my S13gdm got deleted.
[09:47] <Jedrick> C-Keen: i can't rename it coz it's on a cd.. not save on my computer
[09:47] <Hendric> oopss wrong person jas_
[09:47] <Hendric> izm99, , maybe your card isn't compatible with the nvidia-glx driver... like my old Pine Nvidia TNT2... can't even run with xserver NV driver.. bug i guess
[09:47] <jas_> K was gonna say
[09:47] <C-Keen> Jedrick: well then use a vcd player like totem or kaffeine
[09:47] <Jedrick> ok
[09:47] <nnonix> basvg: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[09:47] <izm99> Hendric, so would i have to get binary from nvidia?
[09:48] <basvg> nnonix: thanks! <hmm, should've looked there in the first place>
[09:48] <aftertaf> izm99:  try the nvidia legacy package
[09:48] <nnonix> basvg: np, have fun.
[09:48] <eckhart> hi
[09:48] <Hendric> izm99, try the legacy package or read release notes... it fully supports your card
[09:49] <Hendric> izm99, as i told you.. there are supported chips that doesn't work at all. like the ones from Pine..
[09:49] <eckhart> how can i recreate an xorg.conf file the same way it is done at ubuntu installation?
[09:49] <Hendric> so i have to use VESA from xserver to make it run
[09:50] <basvg> nnonix: I Was just worried (I just checked the list of pacakages to be upgraded) by the amount of *new* packages that will be installed... Was a bit afraid that I'd end up with, for example, both OO and OO2
[09:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Is there an easy way to make ubuntu auto add my other installation of linux?
[09:50] <jas_> Hey
[09:50] <jas_> Hendric I figured it out!
[09:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> to grub I mean.
[09:50] <jas_> All I had to type was... REady for this!??
[09:50] <melvztechie> hello guys, do we have a driver for Epson LX-300 printer? or any other recommended driver for this printer
[09:50] <jas_> startx
[09:50] <Hendric> wat?
[09:50] <Hendric> lolx
[09:50] <jas_> Yeah..
[09:50] <Crys_Ubu_PC> jas_ Nice.
[09:51] <izm99> Hendric, aftertaf, thanks.  I'll look into the legacy package.
[09:51] <jas_> I don't know if it will reload the file
[09:51] <nnonix> basvg: no, it should upgrade 00 to 002
[09:51] <Hendric> you didn't mention you wanna start a GUI
[09:51] <aurax> anyone using some kind of gorupware?
[09:51] <jas_> Yeah I did.
[09:51] <jas_> All the way in the begining..
[09:51] <jas_> :P
[09:51] <Hendric> lolx.. i thought you were trying to list all the commands
[09:51] <basvg> nnonix: I'll just give it a shot. Thanks for the help
[09:51] <synd> Just installed Ubuntu Breezy. What repos should I add?
[09:51] <jas_> No...
[09:51] <Hendric> anyways.. lucky u
[09:51] <jas_> I accidently deleted S13gdm and I couldn't get it get back to GUI
[09:52] <looga> i tried xkill on a program but it won't die. how can i terminate it via cli?
[09:52] <nnonix> basvg: Just make sure you don't stop at dist-upgrade. Follow the entire article and do the ubuntu-base stuff as well.
[09:52] <jas_> Some stupid site said you could and when you rebooted it would come back....
[09:53] <Crys_Ubu_PC> Is there an easy way to make ubuntu auto add my other installation of linux?
[09:53] <basvg> nnonix: *nods* I will. It's good to see a new sources.list (rather than s/hoary/breezy/g )
[09:53] <Jedrick> How can i see video clips on my browser, coz i have no media player just like on windows
[09:53] <xuniluser> what should i download so totem player can view VCDs
[09:54] <aftertaf> Jedrick:  make sure you have the codes installe, and nautilus should previewx them for you
[09:54] <Jedrick> how will i know if i have the codes install and the nautilus?
[09:55] <dayzz> anyone know how to make repository on cd?
[09:55] <C-Keen> xuniluser: nothing. it does so by default if you chose open dVD/cd?
[09:55] <Hendric> oddly.. in the linuxworldmagazine's website.. there is a big AD about how better windows system servers are, than linux...
[09:55] <padmawan> xuniluser: use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[09:56] <johnsie2> is it ok to have programs running when you run apt-get update?
[09:56] <Orborde> So I set up Breezy, and things work, for the most part. But I still get the double-clock-speed/50% CPU at idle problem.
[09:56] <El_Che> johnsie2: yes
[09:56] <johnsie2> good :-)
[09:56] <Orborde> Any idea how to fix them?
[09:57] <Hendric> Orborde, why not try 686 kernel if you are on intel
[09:57] <Orborde> I switched from the AMD64 kernel to the i386 one to go 32-bit when I upgraded from Hoary.
[09:57] <Hendric> ah AMD..
[09:57] <Orborde> Hendric: I'm on AMD64
[09:57] <DjKritical> I honestly thought I'd never see the day I'd be playing games like GTA3 and CS:Source in Linux... Ubuntu rawks :D
[09:57] <jhank> hi guys - just wondering if there is a time plan, when breezy is released?
[09:58] <Orborde> Hendric: I then flipped on over to the K7 kernel, because it seemed more in line with my system.
[09:58] <DjKritical> jhank, breezy is already out!
[09:58] <jhank> aaaaah thanks
[09:58] <Hendric> Orborde, it think 386 would be better..
[09:58] <Jedrick> How can i see video clips on my browser, coz i have no media player just like on windows
[09:58] <DjKritical> Jedrick, Media Player plugin for FireFox
[09:58] <johnsie2> u played GTA3 on linux?
[09:58] <johnsie2> how?
[09:58] <Jedrick> DjKritical: where can i get that?
[09:58] <DjKritical> johnsie: cedega!
[09:59] <jhank> just RC isnt it?
[09:59] <Orborde> The no_timer_check thing doesn't appear to work. noapic/nolapic kills the 50%/double-clock problem, but it renders eth0 nonfunctional.
[09:59] <Hendric> Orborde,  haven't you tried the kernel for 64's??? its a different ISO
[09:59] <looga> where's the conventional/usual place to put a folder containing a program we got from the internet?
[09:59] <DjKritical> johnsie2, it costs money... but if you want a free version (like me) go get cvscedega
[09:59] <johnsie2> i already have wine... how did you install cedgea?
[09:59] <erick> does ubuntu support mp3 converter that can be used on cellphones
[09:59] <looga> i don't want to clutter home/looga directory
[10:00] <jhank> i mean the final release
[10:00] <Orborde> Hendric: I tried the AMD64 distro, but realized that nothing is actually compiled for 64-bit yet, such as Flash and things. And since I'm not running anything computationally intensive, I switched to 32-bit.
[10:00] <Hendric> i got cedega from a friend... + point2play
[10:00] <johnsie2> how did you get cvscedgea? is it in the repositiory?