[16:01] <dweez> Ram is not a requirement to run 64bit
[16:01] <sir_tyrion> recon69_lap, if I go to a speedtest site I get normal speeds, but if I open a new webpage, the speed is like 5 kb/s and it takes a while to load
[16:01] <dweez> 64bit just allows more memory addressing
[16:01] <Timewarper> dweez yeah but it needs more ram to run effectively
[16:01] <Timewarper> doesnt it?
[16:02] <dweez> nope
[16:02] <theadmin> dweez: What (s)he means is "64-bit is basically useless with <4 GB RAM"
[16:02] <recon69_lap> ok, it could be that web site, is it the same for all sir_tyrion:
[16:02] <Timewarper> dweez another question: lets say my system supports 64bit. If i install 64bit ubuntu will i have double the cpu speed than if i had  32bit ubuntu?
[16:02] <dweez> theadmin, I disagree with that statement too
[16:03] <dweez> Timewarper, not at all
[16:03] <theadmin> Timewarper: No, and that makes no sense
[16:03] <Timewarper> someone told me that you can do double the calculations in the same amount of time with 64bit
[16:03] <theadmin> Timewarper: Mostly it's just more RAM support and a couple new instructions
[16:03] <osse> I'm experimenting with bitmap fonts in gnome-terminal. I've managed to make a bitmap font in ~/.fonts be available through Edit -> Profile preferences. When I select it I'm still allowed to choose a font size? Does it matter? If so, what should I choose, given that bitmap font sizes usually are expressed as a x b, e.g. 6x13?
[16:03] <Timewarper> hence you do some things in half the time
[16:03] <ensi> how to get rid of package?
[16:03] <sir_tyrion> recon69_lap, it is sites like wikipedia.org, the graphics take a while to load
[16:03] <dweez> and more efficient use of the instructions
[16:04] <escott> Timewarper, no. some applications can perform better because there are more registers and some additional vector instructions
[16:04] <Timewarper> escott, does better come anywhere near double the performance?
[16:04] <dweez> Timewarper, I'm a gonna say no
[16:05] <Timewarper> ok then
[16:05] <escott> Timewarper, no
[16:05] <Timewarper> i just had the impression that 64bit enabled a 64bit computer to run 64bit apps crazy faster
[16:05] <dweez> this might help you with your dilema.  64bit hardware will support 32bit OS but not the other way around
[16:06] <escott> Timewarper, you cannot run a 64bit application on a non-64bit system
[16:06] <magicgerbil> hi
[16:06] <Timewarper> dweez yeah i know that.
[16:06] <republic> good evening everyone
[16:06] <Timewarper> escott, yeah i know.
[16:06] <dweez> ensi, read this thread and see if it helps ==> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947124
[16:06] <ensi> dweez: ok
[16:06] <dweez> Timewarper, and for the normal user, improvements from 64bit will probably not be noticed
[16:07] <recon69_lap> Timewarper: 64bit gives you more memory and more accurate floating point math, the newer multi core processor likely to give the main incress
[16:07] <dweez> Personally, if the hw supports 64bit, that's what I'm putting on it
[16:07] <dpb_> another thought to consider: 64-bit installs typically take up more room.
[16:07] <escott> Timewarper, if you are computing with 64 integers (which never happens outside of mathematics) then a 64bit processor could do that "twice as fast" as a 32bit processor
[16:07] <Timewarper> recon69_lap, does the floating point math, make calculations faster? thus enabling 64bit apps to do things faster?
[16:08] <Timewarper> escott, yes that what i meant
[16:08] <Timewarper> eor a 64bit processor with 32bit os
[16:08] <alexcheninfo> alexcheninfo
[16:08] <Timewarper> escott, i had the impression that when working with 64bit apps on 64bit system those apps run twice as fast from their 32bit counterparts
[16:09] <recon69_lap> Timewarper, yep, 3d apps benefit a lot from 64 bit
[16:09] <Timewarper> only 3d?
[16:10] <recon69_lap> Timewarper: anything that does a lot of floating point math,
[16:11] <dweez> Every app will see some performance increase (albeit most very minor) just because the 64bit OS is more efficient than most 32bit OS' but an app written for 64bit will see (should see) a very noticeable increase
[16:11] <oCean> Timewarper, dweez this channel is not for general discussion. If you want to continue, please choose #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[16:11] <dweez> although, outside of number-crunching as escott said, I doubt you'll see a 2:1 increase
[16:11] <escott> recon69_lap, i didnt think amd64 made any changes to the fpu at all
[16:11] <dweez> ok, sorry
[16:11] <sir_tyrion> I changed my resolv.conf to use google dns and it is much faster
[16:11] <oCean> dweez: no problem
[16:13] <recon69_lap> escott: at the most basic a 64bit machine can get 64bit int in one clock cycle, it takes 2 in a 32 system
[16:14] <Guest49119> hi all, i have a curious problem that's been going on for about a couple of months now and it's getting annoying. at random, these tiny windows will appear at login and cannot be closed except by xkill and clicking the window. once it's killed (say for instance, guake) it cannot be restarted. anybody have any ideas as to what this is or how to fix it?
[16:14] <escott> recon69_lap, you were saying the floating point was better. except for having more registers and the new vector ops, what has changed in the fpu?
[16:15] <Guest49119> http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_018-Cn2lGrfG.jpeg http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_020-M76RnPJp.jpeg http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_021-lq7pEKP7.jpeg
[16:15] <Guest49119> http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_022-bqZWQdI3.jpeg
[16:15] <dweez> I just had my ubuntu 11.10 reboot after I unlocked the screen.  Which of the files in /var/log/ would I look at to find the reason why?  I've also came back into work before to see that it has magically rebooted.
[16:15] <recon69_lap> escott, maybe faster would have been a better than saying 'better'
[16:16] <ensi> dweez: got it thanks
[16:16] <dweez> ensi, good deal
[16:16] <dweez> broken packages can be a pain
[16:16] <recon69_lap> dweez , dmesg
[16:17] <ensi> dweez: very much so
[16:17] <dweez> recon69_lap, thanks
[16:18] <ztane> is there a way to configure unity to show titlebars when maximized / is there any way to run old gnome easily in oneiric
[16:18] <recon69_lap> escott: not sure, but think that 64bit machines will give more accurate answers that the same calculation on a 32bit, so some apps have to be careful when coded that they account for the possibility
[16:18] <auronandace> !gnome2 | ztane
[16:19] <Gorkyman> added ubuntu 11.10 on usb stick... booting... error: cannot mount /dev/loop1 on /cow... any help? :)
[16:19] <ztane> !notunity
[16:19] <ztane> auronandace: thanks :D
[16:19] <auronandace> ztane: i'd recomend xfce instead
[16:20] <ztane> auronandace: not really needed, only vmware fusion on ubuntu does not like unity
[16:20] <escott> recon69_lap, a double is still a double. there arent any changes to what a floating point is or how it is calculated. i think the performance you see in 3d applications is related to the registers and the vector ops
[16:20] <Gorkyman> whats the best usb creator that wouldnt give me that error ?
[16:20] <ztane> maximized windows are missing the titlebar when in...
[16:21] <johnnyzero> How long does it take for the Ubuntu team or someone to respond to a bug?
[16:21] <dweez> Gorkyman, did you make the usb drive bootable first?
[16:21] <ztane> so called vmware "unity" mode
[16:21] <Gorkyman> dweez: yeah
[16:21] <auronandace> ztane: i've never used vmware (virtualbox is more my style, and i think unity works in vbox)
[16:22] <johnnyzero> I guess sometimes they don't respond to bugs and the bugs aren't fixable.
[16:22] <janith> Guys, I need a simple network traffic monitor on notification area.I had one in 10.10. I could't find it for 11.04
[16:23] <Gorkyman> ugh... can't boot from cd, can't boot from usb
[16:23] <Gorkyman> freaking great
[16:23] <ubuntunoob> hm
[16:23] <escott> Gorkyman, did you check the md5sums of your iso
[16:23] <Rangerboy> Gorkyman: set you boot device priority (CD/USB) before HDD
[16:24] <Gorkyman> Rangerboy: I did, same thing
[16:24] <johnnyzero> Would it help to include information about how the device that I have that doesn't work on Ubuntu will be recognized on a Fedora live boot?
[16:24] <Rangerboy> Gorkyman: have you tried Unetbootin?
[16:25] <johnnyzero> I already included information about how the device works on Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04. Basically some people told me I was pretty much out of luck until 12.04 as 12.04 aims to get rid of loads of bugs.
[16:25] <Gorkyman> escott: whats the correct checksum?
[16:25] <escott> !md5sum | Gorkyman
[16:25] <johnnyzero> hmm
[16:25] <johnnyzero> !bugs
[16:26] <johnnyzero> and thats exactly what I did and nobody responded
[16:26] <auronandace> johnnyzero: how long ago was this?
[16:26] <ztane> auronandace: the vmware fusion unity mode shows each linux window separately on os x desktop
[16:27] <Gorkyman> escott: checksum is ok
[16:27] <kinsk> i
[16:27] <kinsk> hi.
[16:27] <auronandace> ztane: virtualbox has something similar: seamless mode
[16:27] <ztane> hmm
[16:27] <johnnyzero> The bug was filed on November 5th
[16:27] <johnnyzero> Almost a month ago
[16:27] <Gorkyman> can I even run ubuntu64 on intel cpu?
[16:27] <johnnyzero> How long does it usually take?
[16:27] <llutz> Gorkyman: if it is 64bit capable, yes
[16:27] <deej1976> Gorkyman: If you have a 64bit chip
[16:28] <johnnyzero> Because if it takes 5 months 12.04 will be out anyways.
[16:28] <kinsk> I've tried to dual boot ubuntu with windows 7 64bit already installed but when I get to the install menu, ubuntu doesn't detect the windows installation and there is no "dual boot ubuntu with existing windows partition" option. It says something like "No operating system found" and shows my hdd as free space. Anyone had this issue ?
[16:28] <Gorkyman> of course... so next thing... Unetbootin... I think I used that one yeah
[16:29] <llutz> Gorkyman: for 11.10 just use "sudo cat ubuntu.iso >/dev/sdX" where /dev/sdX is your usb-thumbdrive
[16:29] <johnnyzero> Also auronandace it seems that since not everyone has this issue and only one other person did, it doesn't seem like this bug will likely be taken care of anytime soon
[16:29] <republic> gorkyman, maxim gorky?
[16:29] <escott> Gorkyman, both the cd and usb fail the loop mount?
[16:29] <Gorkyman> escott: no, with cs there is no ui configuration error
[16:29] <Gorkyman> cd*
[16:29] <Gorkyman> with usb: can not mount loop1
[16:29] <auronandace> johnnyzero: what was your bug by the way?
[16:30] <johnnyzero> auronandace, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/886449 its a bug in Alsa/pulseaudio
[16:30] <escott> !alternate | Gorkyman try the alternate installer
[16:30] <johnnyzero> The pulseaudio people claim it has nothing to do with them
[16:30] <johnnyzero> and that its all alsa
[16:31] <MeQuerSat> For the file /etc/network/interfaces, do I need a line like "iface wlan0 inet manual" to get wlan0 up ?
[16:31] <Gorkyman> escott: can I run the gui from alternate?
[16:32] <llutz> Gorkyman: you can't
[16:33] <Gorkyman> bah I never thought trying ubuntu will be a nightmare
[16:33] <ubuntunoob> unlucky :D
[16:34]  * dr_willis recalls the nightmares hes had with windows..
[16:34] <auronandace> johnnyzero: i see, sorry i can't help, my cam is builtin and works fine (t510) (that doesn't help you though)
[16:34] <shanky_lappy> i'm having troubles with firmware issues with my wifi adapter
[16:34] <escott> Gorkyman, these sound like burn errors so i would double check the md5sum of the disk that was actually burned
[16:34] <johnnyzero> Hmm would this be a good idea?  Maybe I should install Debian, compile Alsa from scratch as well as pulseaudio and then upgrade to Lubuntu? Would that be a solution?
[16:34] <Gorkyman> escott: I checked the iso, checksum is good...
[16:34] <dr_willis> Gorkyman:  when you install from the alternative cd.. you will have a full gui desktop. its just the installer thats text based
[16:35] <dr_willis> Gorkyman:  check the md5sum of the actual burnt cd also.
[16:35] <auronandace> johnnyzero: you don't upgrade debian to ubuntu
[16:35] <johnnyzero> oh
[16:35] <Gorkyman> dr_willis: usb doesnt work either
[16:35] <vishwas> After installing ubuntu I couldnt find my boot menu (Switching between different OS)
[16:35] <auronandace> johnnyzero: never mix repos
[16:35] <johnnyzero> Well I do have more bugs to report
[16:35] <johnnyzero> One is with Archive Manager
[16:35] <dr_willis> !dosentwork
[16:35] <root> ls
[16:35] <dr_willis> !doesntwork
[16:35] <johnnyzero> and the other is with when the system checks for errors
[16:36] <johnnyzero> Here is the problems
[16:36] <escott> Gorkyman, of what you downloaded or what you actually burned?
[16:36] <johnnyzero> When you open Archive Manager and touch a file, the cursor changes to a plus sign and everything freezes
[16:36] <Gorkyman> dr_willis: cannot mount /dev/loop1 on /cow.
[16:36] <johnnyzero> Also
[16:36] <johnnyzero> If you shut down the PC incorrectly, Ubuntu stops working.
[16:37] <johnnyzero> It doesn't see the /tmp directory
[16:37] <johnnyzero> upon startup
[16:37] <Gorkyman> escott: I checked the sum on the img that was burned... I can check the cd also though
[16:37] <johnnyzero> and it will crash every time it boots
[16:37] <Pici> johnnyzero: Please don't use enter as punctuation. 2) this channel is not a replacement for filing bugs
[16:37] <oCean> johnnyzero: are you aware that this is not the correct place to report bugs?
[16:37] <escott> Gorkyman, i would check the cd as well
[16:38] <dr_willis> cant say that ive seen that issue johnnyzero . I definatly shut this pc down incorrectly several times last night when the power went out.
[16:39] <janith> Guys, I need a simple traffic monitor
[16:39] <johnnyzero> Pici, in otherwords you could have just said you're going to zero in on my punctuation and not help
[16:39] <UnderSampled> this is interesting
[16:39] <dr_willis> janith:  like gkrellm or conky?
[16:39] <UnderSampled> I bet you didn't know that "ubuntu" was so synonymous with "linux"
[16:39] <UnderSampled> ubuntu, linux
[16:39] <Gorkyman> escott: checked. its good
[16:40] <UnderSampled> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+linux&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[16:40] <johnnyzero> oCean, I figured maybe someone in here would be able to help somewhat. But I guess not. Seems that if you have the misfortune of Ubuntu not working, people will say "Oh well, it works for me. Too bad for you."
[16:40] <ThinkT510> johnnyzero: using enter as punctuation makes things harder to follow in a busy channel
[16:41] <dr_willis> check existing bug reports. see if the issues have been reported by others. and any fix's are in the works.
[16:41] <oCean> johnnyzero: no, that's not what I meant. We have specific environment for bug reporting and handling. This channel focusses on tech assistence. A bug is something we cannot fix here
[16:41] <dr_willis> !bugs
[16:42] <johnnyzero> And what happens if Mark and his team doesn't care to fix the bug or even respond?
[16:42] <dr_willis> what happens if no one else can recreate your bug...
[16:43] <dr_willis> then again a fix may allready be  getting worked on..  check the bug reports and see.
[16:45] <johnnyzero> Some people said I should provide as much information as I can and test the Cam/Mic out on a good amount of Linux derivatives and report my findings in the bug report. Can't see how that will help though.
[16:46] <johnnyzero> Fedora and Ubuntu for example are different distributions. I can't see how providing information about it working on Fedora would help the Ubuntu team.
[16:46] <recon69_lap> anyone getting a blank window when opening software center
[16:46] <vishwas> HELP please. I cant go into windows After installing Ubuntu
[16:46] <recon69_lap> vishwas: sounds bad, did you partition your drive correctly
[16:47] <vishwas> I did it properly. I can see all those drives in Ubuntu
[16:47] <dr_willis> vishwas:  by go into iwndows.. you mean boot to windows? you see a windows entry on the grub menu? you see your windows drive in the file manager?
[16:47] <dr_willis> what happens when you do try to boot into windows.
[16:48] <vishwas> I see windows in grub menu. When i press enter on it, doesnt load.
[16:48] <dr_willis> what does it do exactly..
[16:48] <dr_willis> any animations/messages?
[16:48] <Gorkyman> ok so lets try booting from alternate... do I need any special instruction for getting into desktop ?
[16:49] <dr_willis> Gorkyman:  the alternative cd - boots straight to a text based installer.
[16:49] <recon69_lap> johnnyzero: it would show that the device already has working linux drivers and that the device itself works
[16:49] <dr_willis> Gorkyman:  you get to the desktop after  you install, then reboot the machine
[16:49] <vishwas> Gets stuck. Nothing happens
[16:49] <Gorkyman> dr_willis: do I need to install or can I run from usb ?
[16:49] <ThinkT510> recon69_lap: he left
[16:49] <dr_willis> Gorkyman:  the alterative installer DOES just an Install...
[16:49] <dr_willis> Gorkyman:  you can put it on cd, or usb and install from either i belive.
[16:50] <Gorkyman> dr_willis: ok... do I need to create a free partition on my disk for installation? :)
[16:50] <dr_willis> its good for problematic hardware, or low end systems
[16:50] <dr_willis> Gorkyman:  you can repartion beforhand, or let the installer do it.
[16:50] <dr_willis> I always repartion with a gparted live cd beforhand.
[16:51] <Gorkyman> I dont know how my hardware could be problematic... intel quadcore6600, nvidia 8800...
[16:52] <dr_willis> im not even sure what your original problem is/was Gorkyman .
[16:52] <Gorkyman> dr_willis: cannot mount /dev/loop1 on /cow.
[16:52] <Gorkyman> when booting it from usb
[16:52] <dr_willis> try some of the other tools at pendrivelinux to make the usb.
[16:52] <Gorkyman> and I used unetbootin
[16:52] <chrislabeard> Hi guys, I'm trying to do some backups using rsync is there a way to get around it asking for a password?
[16:52] <dr_willis> ive had usb drives not work  right with some machines. but do work with others..
[16:52] <chrislabeard> I'm trying to use automator to run it every hour
[16:53] <escott> chrislabeard, assuming you are using rsync over ssh you can set up an authorized_keys file
[16:53] <Gorkyman> dr_willis: how much space should I preserve across rebots when installing iso to usb?
[16:53] <chrislabeard> escott: I'm just using the standard way of setting it up locally
[16:53] <chrislabeard> escott: i'm not sure what its called but its not ssh
[16:54] <Guest97529> e tu
[16:54] <ddilinger> i was thinking about initializing my /etc directory as a git repository.  Anyone know where i might find a list of 'dynamic' files in /etc that will change on their own and shouldn't be stored?
[16:54] <Guest97529> anonymous
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[16:54] <FloodBot1> Guest97529: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <escott> chrislabeard, if it is local its not clear why it would be asking for a password
[16:55] <ddilinger> ld.so.cache i'm sure is one, there are likely more
[16:55] <Guest97529> puto
[16:55] <chrislabeard> escott: I set up a secrets file does it need that?
[16:55] <chrislabeard> escott: I just followed a tutorial but was unsure if I needed it
[16:55] <Guest97529> hacking chat pendejos
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[16:56] <FloodBot1> Guest97529: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <K3rmit> how do I enable options in my kernel config? ex. CONFIG_ATH_COMMON=m
[16:56] <escott> chrislabeard, can you send us the link to the tutorial you were following
[16:56] <chrislabeard> escott: yeah
[16:56] <llutz> chrislabeard: http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html
[16:57] <FloodBot1> Guest97529: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <dr_willis> Gorkyman:  if you are using a live usb setup to just install. you do not need to reserve any space for 'persistant storage'
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[16:57] <FloodBot1> Guest97529: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <UnderSampled> Vishwas: you'll have to give a little bit more information
[16:57] <auronandace> oCean: thanks
[16:59] <recon69_lap> anyone know why the software center would open as a empty window
[16:59] <vademecum> Got a big whack of updates to download. Problem is very slow diallup. Is it possible to generate a list of files I can download somewhere else where the connection is faster?
[16:59] <ThinkT510> recon69_lap: no idea, i prefer using synaptic
[17:00] <UnknownFrequency> Can anyone remember the name the application where you can select various OS distibutions and put them on a USB drive / CD?
[17:00] <ThinkT510> UnknownFrequency: unetbootin?
[17:00] <theadmin> UnknownFrequency: unetbootin?
[17:00] <theadmin> ThinkT510: lol
[17:00] <UnknownFrequency> yea... thanks!!
[17:01] <UnknownFrequency> spend ½ hand hour already.. god thing I have you guys :)
[17:01] <ThinkT510> theadmin: great mind think alike :)
[17:02] <blognewb> hi guys where did "cron" get its name from?
[17:02] <ThinkT510> blognewb: try wikipedia
[17:03] <theadmin> blognewb: Probably from the greek "ChRONos", meaning "time"?
[17:05] <l1nuxman> can someone help me follow this guide? I don't have some files they talk about like the usb_modedwitch ones and also I'm not sure how to enable the kernel options http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc
[17:05] <baeus> I am not able to get my ethernet connection to work when I use any non-default window manager/desktop environment. Does anyone know the problem or what I need to do. I tried to connect using dhcpcd with lxde.
[17:05] <FreeWilly> hey all, i have a webserver installed in my ubuntu server, called media tomb
[17:06] <FreeWilly> i wish to uninstall it
[17:06] <FreeWilly> anyone know how i can go about it?
[17:06] <llutz> FreeWilly: sudo apt-get purge mediatomb
[17:06] <chaospsychex> ^
[17:06] <llutz> !manual | FreeWilly
[17:07] <conntrack> Is anyone using vdsl?
[17:07] <ok_wait> hi all, i have a curious problem that's been going on for about a couple of months now and it's getting annoying. at random, these tiny windows will appear at login and cannot be closed except by xkill and clicking the window. once it's killed (say for instance, guake) it cannot be restarted unless i log out and back in. anybody have any ideas as to what this is or how to fix it?
[17:07] <llutz> !anyone | conntrack
[17:07] <FreeWilly> llutz: thanks
[17:07] <briancj> .
[17:08] <ok_wait> here are some screenshots   http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_022-bqZWQdI3.jpeg http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_018-Cn2lGrfG.jpeg http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_020-M76RnPJp.jpeg http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_021-lq7pEKP7.jpeg
[17:09] <BarkingFish> looks like some sort of widget from where I'm sitting, couldn't be certain though
[17:09] <conntrack> If I buy a vdsl modem can I use it with my existing firewall and will pppoe will work?
[17:09] <user82> Hi. is there any detailed page on how to use "ssh -X". i would be interested in detaching and re-attaching a gui program
[17:09] <ok_wait> but they're all different at each login
[17:09] <ok_wait> some logins don't have one too
[17:10] <BarkingFish> conntrack: That entirely depends on what your existing firewall is, and since we don't know your network or settings, it's kinda difficult to say whether anything will work
[17:10] <escott> user82, you have to run an xserver inside an instance of screen on the remote system. something like xnest
[17:11] <dr_willis> user82:  as far as i know. thats not possible. there used to be some X detatch/reatach trick/app years ago.. but it dident work well.. VNC or xnest, or freenx may work better for you
[17:11] <kantlivelong> can anyone here recommend a good vnc client w/o the stupid connection gui?
[17:11] <dr_willis> theres dozens of vnc servers and clients out there..
[17:11] <theadmin> kantlivelong: vncviewer?
[17:11] <dr_willis> some take command line options..
[17:11] <user82> ok thanks...
[17:11] <conntrack> I currently have an adsl modem and firewall. I want to use vdsl modem and the same firewall and wonder if it will work
[17:12] <kantlivelong> theadmin: anything better? vncviewer always seems slow
[17:12] <escott> !vnc | kantlivelong
[17:12] <kantlivelong> even for vnc i seems slow
[17:12] <conntrack> BarkingFish: I see what you are saying
[17:12] <theadmin> kantlivelong: Hm well I'm not into vnc... I mostly just use TeamViewer
[17:12] <llutz> conntrack: "firewall" is a concept so what is that you call "firewall"? an appliance, just some software, what?
[17:12] <kantlivelong> ach tbv
[17:12] <kantlivelong> tv*
[17:13] <conntrack> BarkingFish: An appliance
[17:13] <BarkingFish> conntrack: it physically depends on a whole lot of things - like what firewall, which vdsl modem you're getting, whether your network supports PPPOE, a lot of stuff makes a difference.
[17:13] <llutz> conntrack: why shouldn't it work? technically adsl/vdsl won't make a big difference, iirc
[17:14] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. Since installing 11.10 I haven't been able to use devede anymore; it just freezes after 1st pass w/o any warnings. Is there a known bug? TIA!
[17:14] <conntrack> BarkingFish: I think it will work
[17:14] <ok_wait> i will try a dist-upgrade. should i upgrade first?
[17:14] <conntrack> BarkingFish: There is limited information
[17:14] <BarkingFish> ok, well the best way to find out if it will work is to try it out. If it works, no problem :)
[17:14] <escott> !dvd | nimbiotics, you might want to try reinstalling libdvdcss. be sure to rerun the script in /var/lib/libdvdcss
[17:15] <conntrack> BarkingFish: If it doesn't I'm left with a load of expense :)
[17:15] <vafied> Xorg is eating all my cpu 98% mostly do you have any suggestions ?
[17:15] <vafied> ubuntu 11.10
[17:16] <conntrack> BarkingFish: I'm worried that pppoe need to be over a vlan
[17:16] <nimbiotics> escott; thx. will do
[17:16] <conntrack> BarkingFish: But I suppose that modem should handle that vlan side
[17:17] <luist> can anyone help me to make a debmirror (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror) im having problems making the gpg keys part. i dont have any of the files specified!
[17:18] <chaospsychex> anybody in here using an open-source BIOS on their system ?
[17:18] <escott> vafied, Xorg is drawing on behalf of some other program, its often flash player plugin that misbehaves
[17:18] <BarkingFish> !anybody | chaospsychex
[17:18] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: have you checked for simpler solutions, hard to know how to help with the info you give. maybe the card make model, the version of ubuntu you using and probably lots of other info
[17:19] <vafied> escott: thank you i just killed npviewer and all is better
[17:19] <UnknownFrequency> Does anyone know how I can create a bootable windows XP cd or usb? I have the original WinXp SP3 .iso file from the windows hopepage. I have tried all day
[17:19] <theadmin> UnknownFrequency: It's offtopic here, but I know. Please pm me
[17:19] <chaospsychex> BarkingFish: i asked the question, is anyone using an open-source BIOS
[17:20] <JackFolla> http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/
[17:20] <l1nuxman> recon69_lap, ubuntu 10.04.3 TL-WN821N Atheros USB.
[17:20] <escott> chaospsychex, thats not the point. if i said "yes" what would you say next?
[17:20] <ThinkT510> chaospsychex: and if someone says yes your next question (the real one) would be...
[17:21] <JackFolla> http://tinyurl.com/6lbj8vf
[17:22] <conntrack> BarkingFish: I guess since the modem I need supports annex A, B and C it works with ADSL so should be for VDSL
[17:22] <auronandace> JackFolla: wrong channel
[17:22] <JackFolla> Petion against the locked bios ms
[17:23] <WLU> Any problems with ubuntu 11.10 and displays. I cannot seem to properly mirror the screen on an external monitor from a laptop, lspci gives 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[17:23] <oCean> JackFolla: don't post that here, thanks
[17:23] <llutz> conntrack: and where is the ubuntu-related part of your story?
[17:23] <auronandace> JackFolla: this place is for help with ubuntu, nothing else
[17:23] <JackFolla> newwindos system block the bios
[17:23] <oCean> JackFolla: please take that discussion elsewhere
[17:23] <JackFolla> this it's the petition
[17:24] <conntrack> llutz: Shall I make one up?
[17:25] <nico_dio> hi
[17:25] <luist> help with this error on DEBSCRIPT please: http://pastie.org/2945001
[17:26] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: can you paste box the output of lsusb and lsmod
[17:27] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: with the usb card plugged in
[17:27] <l1nuxman> yea
[17:28] <nico_dio>     #ubuntu-fr
[17:28] <JackFolla> Microsoft will implement his system with secure boot to prevent the installation and loading at boot Mlawa
[17:28] <l1nuxman> recon69_lap, http://pastebin.com/DGHG7cTJ
[17:29] <oCean> JackFolla: that was your warning, don't continue
[17:30] <FreeWilly> could somone plz help me with my samba server not starting up
[17:30] <FreeWilly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/755140/
[17:30] <FreeWilly> that means jibberish to me im a noob
[17:30] <JackFolla> oCean I can explain something
[17:30] <oCean> JackFolla: no
[17:30] <JackFolla> why
[17:30] <oCean> JackFolla: this channel is for technical ubuntu support ONLY
[17:30] <JackFolla> in pvt
[17:31] <oCean> JackFolla: sure
[17:31] <KrisDouglas> FreeWilly, It means samba is already running.
[17:31] <KrisDouglas> FreeWilly, additionally, the configuration file seems botched.
[17:31] <escott> FreeWilly, there are a number of things going on here. there is a typo in your config file. you might want to look into using SWAT to generate the config. you also have a stale pid file in /var/run/samba/smbd.pid. you should check if smdb is running with ps aux | grep smdb and if it isn't remove that pid file. how are you starting and stopping the server?
[17:32] <escott> !samba | FreeWilly
[17:32] <FreeWilly> well yes when running it dont get am bsod
[17:33] <FreeWilly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/755142/
[17:33] <FreeWilly> my config file
[17:33] <KrisDouglas> FreeWilly, a BSoD is a windows error message.
[17:33] <FreeWilly> i know
[17:33] <FreeWilly> trying to make joke
[17:33] <FreeWilly> it failed
[17:33] <FreeWilly> is start with sudo smbd start/stop
[17:33] <FreeWilly> and stop
[17:34] <escott> !enter | FreeWilly
[17:34] <FreeWilly> running ps aux i can see smdb there
[17:34] <FreeWilly> only one line tho
[17:34] <CarlFK> FreeWilly: I think the: should be a /  interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>:8 <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[17:36] <CarlFK> FreeWilly: for starting/stopping, you should probably use "sudo service samba start" (I think samba.. kinda guessing)
[17:36] <escott> FreeWilly, when you ps aux | grep something you always see something because you see the "grep something" process. if you don't see a something process without grep then smbd is not running and you can likely safely remove that pid file
[17:36] <llutz> FreeWilly: and remove lines containing the dots, 342/343
[17:36] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: have you tried just creating the missing file 40-usb_modeswitch.rules.
[17:36] <l1nuxman> recon69_lap, I installed usb modeswitch and it created the file. I then added the code
[17:37] <l1nuxman> recon69_lap,  any suggestions based on my output?
[17:37] <luist> can anyone help me with this error on DEBSCRIPT please: http://pastie.org/2945001
[17:37] <l1nuxman> if nothing atm, I'm going to try and reboot...
[17:37] <luist> can anyone help me with this error on DEBMIRROR please: http://pastie.org/2945001
[17:37] <FreeWilly> CarlFK: the line interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>:8 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 then following bind interfaces only = true
[17:37] <leo145> hi.i have a HP laptop that have a ATI and Intel HD Graphic.i didn;t know i should use intel and i installed ati driver ans set ubuntu to use it.now ubuntu don't bootup after the ubuntu purple screen and i see a black screen.can anyone help me fix that?
[17:38] <FreeWilly> what u mean it should say
[17:38] <FreeWilly> thanks llutz
[17:38] <FreeWilly> thanks escott
[17:38] <KrisDouglas> luist, "gpgv: keyblock resource `/home/mirrorkeyring/trustedkeys.gpg': file open error"
[17:38] <KrisDouglas> luist, does that path exist?
[17:38] <CarlFK> FreeWilly: try  interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8 <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[17:38] <escott> luist, i think you need to wget http://cc.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg and add it to your mirror trusted keys keyring
[17:39] <recon69_lap>  l1nuxman: so you've completed that guide and it's not working
[17:39] <l1nuxman> I haven't done any kernel options like I see there though, don't know how
[17:39] <FreeWilly> i have that line
[17:39] <CarlFK> escott: something like this right? curl http://apt.wxwidgets.org/key.asc | sudo apt-key add -
[17:39] <leo145> no one helps me? my ubuntu doesn't boot
[17:39] <escott> luist, a better approach would be to check keyserver.ubuntu.com for the key 40976EAF437D05B5 otherwise you are trusting the website you are downloading from to confirm its own key
[17:39] <FreeWilly> just above bind intrerfaces only = true
[17:39] <l1nuxman> recon69_lap, ^
[17:40] <CarlFK> FreeWilly: it's different
[17:40] <written> how can i change the mirror used in /etc/apt/sources.list in ubuntu server from the command line? is there a tool?
[17:41] <FreeWilly> CarlFK: thanks silly me : instead of /
[17:41] <auronandace> written: nano to the rescue
[17:41] <leo145> :( ?
[17:41] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: :) , look like you have to compile the kernel, what fun
[17:42] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[17:42] <l1nuxman> recon69_lap, ...I"m gonna restart for fun
[17:42] <auronandace> leo145: switchable graphics are somewhat troublesome on linux (not well supported)
[17:42] <written> auronandace, only nano? no tool?
[17:43] <auronandace> written: not that i'm aware of
[17:43] <leo145> auronandace: i don;t want to switch.i only want to return my Xorg config back to use intel
[17:44] <escott> leo145, you should not have an Xorg.conf for intel
[17:45] <leo145> escott: my Xorg.conf configured to use ati (incorectly).so i see black screen while booting.how can i fix that?
[17:45] <rhizmoe> is there a better torrent client than transmission? transmission keeps hanging and being screwy.
[17:45] <escott> !nomodeset | leo145
[17:45] <auronandace> leo145: i think you'd need to disable the graphics card that you don't want to use in the bios
[17:45] <escott> leo145, once you can boot to text successfully with nomodeset you can remove the ati drivers, and remove any Xorg.conf that exists
[17:45] <urthmover> !xforcevesa | leo145
[17:46] <auronandace> rhizmoe: better is subjective, an alternative is deluge
[17:47] <leo145> can really login with only nomodeset option?
[17:47] <l1nuxman> recon69_lap, :( @ ubuntu
[17:48] <rhizmoe> auronandace: thanks, yeah, i should ask for "popular alternatives" :)
[17:49] <luist> escott: http://pastie.org/2945121  well i downloaded the Release.gpg and renamed as trustedkeys.gpg but i got another error now :T
[17:50] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: look like to get this working you going to have to download the kernel source, the build tools, put that film ware in the right place and build a custom kernel. quite a lot of work if you never did it before
[17:51] <l1nuxman> wow recon69_lap that sounds like too much...maybe if I found a linux distro that can make it work
[17:51] <escott> luist, thats incorrect you need to look at the gpg man page or the original tutorial you sent to learn how to use the gpg tools. the release.gpg is the key file, and is not the same format as the trustedkeys.gpg
[17:52] <luist> escott: well i couldnt find any solution there… how do i add 40976EAF437D05B5 to trusted keys
[17:53] <rhizmoe> jeez, what is up with both synaptic and ubuntu sw center not taking credentials, or not offering an error message upon failure, or otherwise not sudo'ing?
[17:53] <escott> luist, go to keyserver.ubuntu.com and search for that key. i think you need the asc file for that key
[17:54] <rhizmoe> extra shudder: how it asks for the password for "Administrator" ...better break out my MCSE for this one, maybe
[17:55] <FreeWilly> after stopping my samba coz still debugging when i run ps aux | grep smbd i get "willem    2196  0.0  0.0   7616   924 pts/0    S+   19:54   0:00 grep --color=auto smbd"
[17:55] <Metroshica> I'm trying to update my Ubunutu mirror I just installed, but when I run su - apt-mirror -c apt-mirror I get this error "apt-mirror: can't write to intermediate file (index-urls.0)"
[17:55] <FreeWilly> does this mean its still running?
[17:55] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: have a read of http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2010/07/14/how-to-compile-a-ubuntu-2-6-35-kernel-for-lucid/
[17:55] <media-server> having some issues with 10.04 and my Audigy 2 sound card... Did a fresh install and it doesn't seem to see the audigy. I disabled the onboard sound int he bios already but in the pulseaudio settings it still says "internal" Any help or links to docs are appreciated
[17:56] <escott> FreeWilly, no that. the command ps aux | grep smbd runs a command "grep --color=auto smbd" (the --color=auto was added by your bash aliases) and that command is what is appearing in your ps aux. if that is the only line then no other commands with smbd are running right now, so smbd in particular is not running
[17:57] <Metroshica> I'm trying to update my Ubunutu mirror I just installed, but when I run su - apt-mirror -c apt-mirror I get this error "apt-mirror: can't write to intermediate file (index-urls.0)". I've done a chown -R apt-mirror:apt-mirror on /var/spool/apt-mirror, where my mirror is located, but it didn't make a difference
[17:57] <FreeWilly> escott: thanks now i know what that means
[17:57] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: been a long time since i compiled a kernel, so cant be to sure whats required with ubuntu
[17:57] <escott> FreeWilly, its like sending someone into a room and asking him to report on the number of people in that room and he comes back and says "the only person in the room at that time was me"
[17:57] <FreeWilly> lol
[17:58] <luist> escott: no keys found :T
[17:59] <escott> luist, did you prefix with an x before the number
[17:59] <escott> luist x40976EAF437D05B5
[17:59] <escott> luist, or 0x40976EAF437D05B5 (that is a zero at the beginning)
[18:00] <luist> escott: ok it worked with 0x
[18:00] <luist> where do i copy its contents to
[18:00] <agentgasmask> Hi all. How can I auto-start the vino VNC server? I've done the obviouse in the the vino-preferences. Any hints?
[18:00] <agentgasmask> Oh, in Ubuntu 11.11
[18:01] <escott> luist, i believe you need to save the asc file, and then use the gpg import command listed in the tutorial you were looking at earlier to add it to your keyring. be sure to delete the current trusted keyring since you corrupted it
[18:01] <ghen> haiii.....
[18:01] <luist> escott: ok ill try
[18:02] <ghen> can i help u??
[18:02] <ghen> what's your name??
[18:03] <escott> agentgasmask, add it to your gnome-session-preferences
[18:03] <recon69_lap> l1nuxman: i would also consider how short life is and how inexpensive usb wireless dongles are
[18:06] <FreeWilly> escott: do u mind if i send u pvt message
[18:06] <FreeWilly> dont want to flood with this samba issue of mine
[18:07] <escott> FreeWilly, im not that familiar with samba, better to ask in channel
[18:08] <FreeWilly> guys i still persist with samba issue, my log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/755172/
[18:08] <FreeWilly> my samba conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/755170/
[18:08] <FreeWilly> my interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/755168/
[18:09] <Layke> If I'm trying to add a package, and it says I should ad this: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gearman-developers/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[18:09] <CarlFK> FreeWilly: there is #samba - no clue how active it is
[18:09] <Layke> What exactly is My ubuntu vrsion?
[18:09] <badstone> Anyone familiar with the patching of RTC8187 wireless cards ?
[18:09] <rhizmoe> oh good, chrome is at 101% cpu
[18:09] <cSquall> leave
[18:09] <Layke> cat /etc/issue
[18:09] <FreeWilly> ive just found samba channel thanks
[18:10] <CarlFK> lake: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gearman-developers
[18:10] <badstone> Gar.. I cannot find the aircrack-ng channel anywhere?#!$%?#
[18:10] <Layke> Thanks CarlFK,
[18:10] <Pici> !alis | badstone
[18:10] <badstone> ty
[18:11] <FreeWilly> sjoe CarlFK its quiet in there
[18:11] <CarlFK> Layke: actually that wasnt quite right.. its "
[18:11] <CarlFK> {apt-add-repository ppa:user/repository"
[18:11] <FreeWilly> thanks for ur help CarlFK and escott
[18:11] <brendan-`> hey does anyone know if there are any mirrors still hosting 9.10 repositories?  I don't have time to upgrade three servers that are all still running 9.10 and need to buy myself a few more weeks until i can do the upgrade
[18:11] <recon69_lap> i'm off , good luck l1nuxman
[18:12] <CarlFK> lake: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gearman-developers/ppa (I guess)
[18:12] <Jakr> How can I update Ubuntu?  Can I decide to only update recommended packages?
[18:12] <badstone> Anyone know where I could find some tech help regarding packet capture and injection support with wireless card rtc8187
[18:13] <aeon-ltd> badstone: for aircrack or other penetration testing #backtrack
[18:13] <ThinkT510> brendan-`: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[18:13] <badstone> TY sir =)
[18:14] <aeon-ltd> badstone: #aircrack-ng if specifically using aircrack, heh don't go crazy breaking wifi protection :).
[18:14] <ThinkT510> Jakr: use the update manager or just sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:15] <Jakr> ThinkT510, no use, there are errors and red text
[18:15] <badstone> I am really not doing anything malicious.. I don't even use what I get.. I just think it is crazy fun.
[18:15] <escott> badstone, its not appropriate for this channel
[18:15] <ThinkT510> Jakr: which says...
[18:16] <badstone> Right... Ok well I am gunna see what I can find around here .. Guys, have a great day =)
[18:16] <NeedSomeHelp> hello, anyone here know basic XSLT ?
[18:16] <brendan-`> ThinkT510: thanks, looking into that now
[18:16] <ubuntugrl> hi there! I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 but it keeps getting hung up on the boot, I can't get past "Verifying DMI pool data" :(
[18:17] <MeQuerSat> How can I make my wifi card accessible as AP and share internet?
[18:17] <ThinkT510> brendan-`: no worries, just glad you will be upgrading sometime
[18:18] <escott> MeQuerSat, not all cards can do this. first you need to see if iwconfig will let you put the device into master mode, and then look at !ics
[18:18] <brendan-`> haha, yeah as soon as i get a chance to get my head above water.   i'm aiming for around the holiday break (in the US) to take a few days to upgrade all the servers
[18:18] <MeQuerSat> escott: I know my wifi card can do it
[18:19] <MeQuerSat> Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR922X Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:20] <Jakr> ThinkT510, well this time it says software up to date.  But is my os up to date?
[18:20] <ThinkT510> Jakr: sounds like it
[18:22] <JusticeZero> First: Should I be alarmed that when I open dialogues and things on my unity system that the text has glitch characteristics for an instant before they resolve?
[18:23] <Jakr> ThinkT510, different question.  Can I change the settings so I do not have to type in my password everytime I want to do something like install something?  I am the only account user
[18:23] <ThinkT510> Jakr: you don't want to do that (security risk)
[18:24] <JusticeZero> Second: Why on earth can I not get Brasero to recognize a USB so I can burn lubuntu to try to get my other lappy working before this one suffers Unity-fueled doom?
[18:24] <escott> Jakr, and we won't tell you how to circumvent that
[18:25] <lovre> hi all. The application KGmailNotifier crashes and blocks when trying to close it. It gives the following error: glibc detected - corrupted double-linked list.... What is this, and can it be fix?
[18:25] <Jakr> escott, you assume that I will get clumsy and will install a virus
[18:25] <afat> which should I use?
[18:25] <afat> ubuntu or debain?
[18:25] <afat> debian
[18:25] <afat> which is best supported?
[18:25] <Pici> afat: This is #ubuntu, if you want unbias responses, try ##linux
[18:25] <szal> unbiased?  lol..
[18:25] <ThinkT510> Jakr: no, if you give your user full access anything your user runs also gets full access
[18:26] <meadhikari> is their any where u can ssh over a high power ubuntu machine and run a script just for a while?
[18:26] <brendan-`> Jakr, a quick google search will reveal how to use sudo with no passwd
[18:26] <escott> Jakr, it causes more trouble than its worth to circumvent it, and its channel policy not to give instructions on circumventing it
[18:26] <brendan-`> meadhikari: amazon ec2   or rackspace cloud servers
[18:26] <Jakr> I thought that ubuntu was uninfectable
[18:26] <escott> Jakr, those who know how to circumvent it are usually the ones who know the risks of doing so
[18:26] <meadhikari> brendan-`, i mean free :)
[18:27] <brendan-`> meadhikari: lol, didn't your momma ever teach you nothing in life is free? ;)
[18:27] <brendan-`> meadhikari: if you're only spinning up a server for a few minutes, ec2 and cloud servers are both actually really cheap
[18:27] <JusticeZero> Jakr, you don't want it to just OK whatever it thinks you asked for. What if you didn't ask to do it? What if some evilware asked to do it for evil reasons?
[18:27] <JusticeZero> anyways.. burning lubuntu to usb. is it possible to do? :p I'm not having luck with it..
[18:28] <JusticeZero> Jakr, that's because it does things like: ask you for your password every time it wants to make system changes.
[18:28] <brendan-`> i was just researching cloud servers this morning and they only charge like 15 cents an hour
[18:28] <Jakr> JusticeZero, is it possible to turn off password requests only for installations?
[18:28] <ThinkT510> JusticeZero: you don't "burn" to usb
[18:28] <jclbrt> only 15 cents an hour?
[18:28] <JusticeZero> Jakr, otherwise it's like saying "But why should we worry about people escaping from the prison if we open all the doors and send all the guards home? It's a high security installation, isn't it?"
[18:29] <Pici> !ot
[18:29] <meadhikari> brendan-`, I only wanted the output for this http://paste.ubuntu.com/755199/
[18:29] <jclbrt> thats like $110ish a month
[18:29] <meadhikari> brendan-`,  but it seems it will take ages from my pc
[18:29] <brendan-`> meadhikari: yes, yes it will
[18:29] <jclbrt> and yes justicezero you can put ubuntu on a flash drive
[18:29] <jclbrt> and even run it too
[18:29] <escott> Jakr, there are packages you could install that would make your system unbootable. once you have learned enough to know how to do what you are proposing you will know why you dont want to do it
[18:30] <Jakr> Pici, was that directed at me?
[18:30] <osse> Jakr, AFAIK you can configure sudo to let you execute 'apt-get' without prompting for a password. But I guess you would still be exposed in case you run a shell script that in turn runs 'apt-get'
[18:30] <ThinkT510> !usb | JusticeZero
[18:30] <Pici> Jakr: no
[18:30] <JusticeZero> ThinkT510 then how do I make a live boot from this? I've done it before but now i'm just lost for some reason
[18:30] <brendan-`> jclbrt: sorry, i got it wrong, it's actually 1.5 cents/hour
[18:30] <meadhikari> brendan-`, any ways i can get the output in this month :D
[18:30] <Phr3d13> What's the terminal command to reconfig nvidia drivers?
[18:30] <brendan-`> for their smallest server
[18:31] <jclbrt> that's pretty decent
[18:31] <jclbrt> i have a cloud at work tho :-)
[18:31] <JusticeZero> Anyhow, other question, should I be alarmed if i'm seeing graphics glitches in text for a brief instant in Unity stuff?
[18:31] <jclbrt> free  here
[18:32] <kla> Phr3d13: dpkg-reconfigure or maybe aptitude reinstall
[18:32] <brendan-`> meadhikari: looking at rackspace cloud servers, you can spin up a 16GB server for 96 cents/hr
[18:32] <brendan-`> surely a machine like that could process that code in under an hour
[18:32] <ThinkT510> take the cloud talk to offtopic
[18:32] <Pici> brendan-`, jclbrt: Do you mind moving the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, as #ubuntu is already rather busy with support requests.
[18:32] <brendan-`> orry
[18:32] <brendan-`> sorry
[18:32] <meadhikari> brendan-`, momma gave me no money
[18:33] <jclbrt> eek sheesh this channel has gotten stricter :-(
[18:33] <meadhikari> sorry guys
[18:33] <tonni> join #ubuntu-ru
[18:34] <ThinkT510> kla: just so you know aptitude isn't installed by default anymore
[18:34] <Phr3d13> I am trying to boot into ubuntu, but after grub all I get is a purple garbled mess, currently in alt+f1 terminal
[18:34] <kla> ThinkT510: really? shame imho. I wouldn't have noticed really since I just keep updating over older versions
[18:35] <Phr3d13> What do I do next? Nvidia card
[18:35] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | Phr3d13
[18:36] <kla> Phr3d13: by 'reconfigure the driver' what is it, in more specific terms, that you need to get accomplished?
[18:36] <Phr3d13> It used to boot though...
[18:36] <kla> Phr3d13: nvm
[18:38] <Origin1990> Does anyone know what would cause Ubuntu to say my wireless is disabled even after checking "enable wireless"? I'm using an Atheros card. Wireless worked last time I had the same version of Ubuntu on this laptop.
[18:39] <brendan-`> hey does anyone know how i would report an error on paste.ubuntu.com ??
[18:39] <brendan-`> i'm getting a mod_python error
[18:39] <brendan-`> actually, no even worse: DatabaseError: database disk image is malformed
[18:40] <john__> What's the easiest way to clone a hard disk so the ISO can be loaded in virtualbox/vmware?  I tried the dd approach, but it filled the entire drive making the iso and I don't have an external drive to do it with
[18:41] <brendan-`> john__: check out remastersys
[18:41] <Phr3d13> Ok, nomodeset got me in, but why did I have to do this, and will I always have to do this?
[18:41] <dani> como instalo wiithon
[18:42] <FreeWilly> could anyone with any previous knowledge or chat exp in #samba helpo to wake them up
[18:42] <escott> Phr3d13, you can add nomodeset to /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub
[18:42] <john__> brendan-`: darn, the system is fedora
[18:42] <Phr3d13> Ok, scratch that, hung on ubuntu loading screen with the progress balls
[18:42] <brendan-`> john__:  ahhhh, you're in the wrong chan then ;)
[18:43] <Guest78048> tengo linux mint, y en los repositorios no esta
[18:43] <escott> Phr3d13, hit the up arrow
[18:43] <escott> !mint | Guest78048
[18:43] <escott> !es | Guest78048
[18:43] <Phr3d13> ?
[18:43] <john__> yeah, but good luck with anyone helping in #fedora, I figured there was a standard tool for all distribs
[18:43] <Pici> john__: Then try ##linux, not #ubuntu
[18:43] <Guest78048> gracias
[18:43] <escott> Phr3d13, just do it, you will be able to see what it is doing
[18:43] <JusticeZero> ..... Is there any way to move the bar from the bottom of the screen in lubuntu?
[18:44] <themisfit> Anyone alive?
[18:44] <ThinkT510> JusticeZero: rightclick it
[18:44] <Phr3d13> No, it hung/froze, the balls didn't move
[18:44] <john__> I think mklivecd is what I want
[18:44] <themisfit> Nice.
[18:44] <escott> Phr3d13, try doing the nomodeset, but remove the "splash" and change that to "nosplash" hopefully you will see what it does before it hangs
[18:45] <kla> john__: can't you just genisoimage/mkisofs whatever data you need?
[18:45] <themisfit> Does anyone know the name of a Bluetooth dongle that is able to pair successfully with a mouse in Ubuntu 11.10?
[18:45] <escott> Phr3d13, you can also add "text" which will not load the gui, but hopefully get you to a working system
[18:45] <kla> john__: or do you need an actual bootable .iso file?
[18:47] <Phr3d13> What does the vt.handoff=7 do?
[18:47] <themisfit> Any recommendations?
[18:48] <escott> Phr3d13, it is saying what virtual terminal the gui should try and run on.
[18:48] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> having some issues with 10.04 and my Audigy 2 sound card... Did a fresh install and it doesn't seem to see the audigy. I disabled the onboard sound in the bios already but in the pulseaudio settings it still says "internal" Any help or links to docs are appreciated
[18:48] <Phr3d13> I used nosplash and it still froze
[18:49] <kla> Phr3d13: use 'single', see if it freezes
[18:49] <cristipiticul> hello
[18:49] <kla> Phr3d13: and remove silent
[18:49] <cristipiticul> is anybody here?
[18:49] <ThinkT510> cristipiticul: yes indeedy
[18:50] <cristipiticul> hello
[18:50] <cristipiticul> I'm having trouble starting Ubuntu
[18:50] <ThinkT510> cristipiticul: need help?
[18:50] <cristipiticul> I'm now running on Windows
[18:50] <cristipiticul> is this the right place to ask?
[18:50] <themisfit> Does anyone here use a Bluetooth dongle?
[18:51] <kla> cristipiticul: Yes. Please describe the problem.
[18:51] <cristipiticul> okay
[18:51] <cristipiticul> I don't know if this might help, but...
[18:51] <cristipiticul> yesterday it worked all fine
[18:51] <cristipiticul> today, when I first started it
[18:51] <cristipiticul> it seemed ok too
[18:51] <ThinkT510> themisfit: can't you use a wired mouse? never have to worry about batteries ever again
[18:51] <cristipiticul> but it took about 10-20 seconds to save a small text file
[18:52] <kla> cristipiticul: write as much information as possible in one line , also :)
[18:52] <ThinkT510> !enter | cristipiticul
[18:52] <Phr3d13> After ro there is "quiet splash vt.handoff=7"
[18:52] <themisfit> It's rechargeable. :P
[18:53] <escott> Phr3d13, you want noquiet nosplash single nomodeset or noquiet nosplash text nomodeset
[18:53] <c[_]> i have a bit of a problem with my usb dongle Ubuntu isnt picking the connection up
[18:53] <cristipiticul> okay, sorry. So ... let's get to the end... finally, hotkeys wouldn't work. ALT + TAB or shifting workspaces didn't work at all. When I put the mouse in the top of the screen, the buttons (X, maximize, minimize) didn't show up
[18:54] <Phr3d13> Should the vt.handoff stay?
[18:54] <cristipiticul> I pressed CTRL+ALT+DEL and it gave me an error. I didn't know what to do so I've restarted the pc from the PC button. After that, it got stuck before the login screen
[18:54] <escott> Phr3d13, i would leave it. but it shouldn't matter
[18:54] <themisfit> c[], Bluetooth?
[18:54] <c[_]> themisfit: usb
[18:54] <escott> cristipiticul, was the gui jerky?
[18:54] <themisfit> USB+Bluetooth or just USB?
[18:54] <c[_]> Huawei E5830
[18:55] <c[_]> just USB
[18:55] <cristipiticul> before, it showed me the purple screen (in the beginning, but after a period a black rectangle showed up with some colored lines), but nothing, even if I wait
[18:55] <themisfit> What's lsusb show?
[18:55] <cristipiticul> I don't know if this means "gui jerky"
[18:55] <c[_]> Bus 002 Device 007: ID 12d1:142d Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
[18:56] <cristipiticul> the second time I tried to start it, it showed me a black scrine with the white cursor( you know, the blinking white underscore)
[18:56] <escott> cristipiticul, so you are describing a number of issues from the initial boot to the point where you were interacting with gui (graphical programs). it would help us to know the first symptom of trouble
[18:56] <themisfit> What's the dongle dangle for?
[18:56] <c[_]> internet
[18:56] <escott> cristipiticul, so when you are booting what was the first thing that went wrong? the black rectangle on the plymouth screen (the purple screen)
[18:56] <themisfit> Are you familiar with ifconfig?
[18:57] <c[_]> no :(
[18:57] <themisfit> How about the UI?
[18:57] <doomviking> am I crazy, or is libmysql-ruby missing from natty
[18:57] <doomviking> or both
[18:58] <c[_]> yeah im use to it
[18:58] <jclbrt> stupid connection reset by peer....
[18:58] <themisfit> Does ifconfig list the interface?
[18:58] <cristipiticul> hmm... since I have Ubuntu 10.?? (I think)  it showed me that black rectangle on the screen with some colored lines for a short period of time. I don't know if this is a sympthom or not. Anyway, I didn't have any trouble regarding the running applications. It worked great
[18:58] <TImewarper> HEY
[18:58] <jclbrt> that is goin on my tombstone....  RIP... Connection Reset by Peer
[18:58] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[18:58] <kla> jclbrt: :)
[18:58] <cristipiticul> since today. Some of my friends on other IRC channel told me it could be because of the update I did yesterday
[18:58] <TImewarper> how can i blacklist a user sshd (stop that user from using ssh)
[18:59] <ndk> Hello, I haz NAMED dns server chewing resource, can it be killed? is it needed for apache or just for subdomains if i happens to have any??
[18:59] <escott> cristipiticul, what did you update? do you know?
[18:59] <blognewb> hi guys where did "cron" get its name from?
[18:59] <Zoohouse> Where would I go to report a package listed in synaptic that is out of date? The package I am speaking of is Anjuta if you are wondering.
[18:59] <jclbrt> Timewarper i believe there is a group for that
[18:59] <cristipiticul> it showed me the update manager and I pressed install all
[18:59] <cristipiticul> I have no idea what I've installed, sorry :D
[18:59] <Phr3d13> Ok, got to a terminal, no internet, how do I reconfig the drivers?
[18:59] <escott> cristipiticul, was it a big update or a little one?
[19:00] <cristipiticul> I think they were about 80 small updates. I don't know
[19:00] <escott> cristipiticul, ok. if you have a livecd or liveusb I would like you to boot that
[19:00] <kla> blognewb: greek for 'time' or something to that effect..
[19:00] <annath> I have a problem... I have an older machine I am trying to run ubuntu on, and so I did a fresh install of 11.10. It worked fine for a couple of weeks, but lately I have been having trouble with it. Every time I go to boot the machine, I see the machine boot and then it never gets to Ubuntu. It doesn't display anything. My monitor acts like there's no input. I am kind of at a loss. I know the video card works because I can se
[19:00] <annath> e the BIOS splash image come up, but aside from that I haven't a clue what to do
[19:00] <cristipiticul> that could be a problem...
[19:01] <escott> cristipiticul, you are in windows. can you make one?
[19:01] <c[_]> no :(
[19:01] <escott> !nomodeset | annath
[19:01] <jclbrt> Timewarper: I believe you can add to the ssh config a user or a group that is allowed to ssh in
[19:01] <jclbrt> i'd recommend a group
[19:01] <cristipiticul> I'm searching for it on my PC... I will tell you when I'm done
[19:01] <annath> I'll look into that, thanks
[19:01] <repozitor> how to connect mac to ubuntu using samba?
[19:01] <yuvateja> how to install cannon 2900 printer in ubuntu 10.04
[19:02] <jclbrt> and anyone you want to have the ssh permissions put in that group
[19:02] <jclbrt> I think you add something like AddUsers to the end of the ssh config file
[19:02] <jclbrt> and then watever user you want access
[19:02] <jclbrt> all else wont be able to
[19:02] <kla> !cups | yuvateja
[19:02] <Origin1990> Could someone tell me how to enable wireless in Ubuntu 11.04? The computer recognizes the wireless card is there, but the option to enable wireless is greyed out.
[19:03] <jclbrt> errrr AllowUsers not AddUsers
[19:03] <c[_]> anyone else then?
[19:03] <cristipiticul> escott, is the ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso good enough for usb boot?
[19:03] <escott> cristipiticul, sure thats fine
[19:03] <cristipiticul> ok
[19:03] <escott> cristipiticul, ideally one that matches the version you are running, but its not too particular
[19:03] <repozitor> is there eexist anyone to help me?
[19:03] <repozitor> exist*
[19:04] <MeQuerSat> escott, I thought it should be possible to share an internet connection in Linux
[19:04] <MeQuerSat> :(
[19:04] <escott> !ics | MeQuerSat
[19:04] <ThinkT510> repozitor: samba is for windows networking
[19:04] <repozitor> ThinkT510:just?
[19:04] <MeQuerSat> escott, Ive read that
[19:05] <MeQuerSat> doesnt work
[19:05] <ThinkT510> repozitor: why not use ssh?
[19:05] <escott> cristipiticul, i need to sign-off, but someone else can help you once you have the livecd working. let them know you that you are having booting problems after some smaller updates. they can take you through some debugging steps. i would recommend an fsck, and then pull your apt logs from the ubuntu partition to figure out what was updated
[19:05] <Zoohouse> blognewb, cron is short for crono which anything related to time. Example chronometer and etc. Hope that helps.
[19:05] <Phr3d13> How do I find out what nvidia package is installed?
[19:05] <yuvateja> kla: it shows like that " bash: !cups: event not found
[19:06] <yuvateja> '
[19:06] <cristipiticul> ok
[19:06] <repozitor> ThinkT510:i neeed to see and explore my file from mac to ubuntu
[19:06] <cristipiticul> I don't know what that means :D, but thank you for your help
[19:06] <ThinkT510> repozitor: why not use ssh?
[19:06] <escott> MeQuerSat, it should work, but its more complicated by your desire to run wireless on top of it. i would first get it working with an unencrypted wireless and then look into setting up a wpa server. i have no idea what package that would be
[19:06] <cristipiticul> I'll ask somebody else about it.
[19:06] <cristipiticul> have a nice day, escott
[19:06] <repozitor> ThinkT510: how to use it?
[19:06] <escott> cristipiticul, goodluck
[19:06] <ThinkT510> !ssh | repozitor
[19:06] <cristipiticul> thank you
[19:07] <cristipiticul> rebooting... found ubuntu 9.10 CD:D
[19:07] <c[_]> http://i.imgur.com/uorz4.jpg anyone know why i got that?
[19:07] <kla> yuvateja: umm, that's not exactly what I suggested. Reread the info about CUPS including the links :)
[19:07] <kla> !cups > yuvateja
[19:08] <lowsmoke> excuse me, but can anyone tell me how to type tilde sign?
[19:08] <repozitor> you say that if i use the ssh command I'm enable to explore and copy … file in the host and ...?
[19:08] <c[_]> shift and # lowsmoke
[19:08] <c[_]> ~
[19:08] <lowsmoke> thaks, ill try that
[19:08] <ThinkT510> lowsmoke: look at your keyboard: ~
[19:08] <lowsmoke> hm
[19:08] <Zoohouse> Phr3d13, can you run nvidia-smi in terminal?
[19:08] <repozitor> ubottu: ^ :D
[19:09] <Pici> repozitor: ubottu is a bot.
[19:09] <ThinkT510> !bot | repozitor
[19:09] <lowsmoke> i have this on my keyboard, but when i hit the key i get ¨
[19:09] <ania> tilde sign???  go to top aplications>accesories>character maps
[19:09] <Phr3d13> Command not found
[19:09] <lowsmoke> character maps eh? ok, thanks, ill check it out
[19:09] <Anomie211> I have a hard disk that is corrupt (showing as a 300MB CD Drive in windows lol), is there a tutorial guide out there on repairing it in 11.10 (the data isnt important aslong as I can  get it working again).
[19:10] <kla> Anomie211: that sounds pretty corrupt lol. Did you try things like fdisk?
[19:10] <brendan-`> Anomie211: why would you want to keep a disk that has gone corrupt?  chances are it's goign to happen again
[19:10] <Phr3d13> Tilde is shift + the key to the left of the number one
[19:11] <Anomie211> kla: nope not tried anything yet.
[19:11] <brendan-`> unless you know exactly what happened, or you did it yourself
[19:11] <c[_]> Phr3d13: depends on keyboard to me thats ¬
[19:11] <c[_]> layout*
[19:11] <Anomie211> brendan-`: didn't realise it made the probability higher, would like to get it working again though if I could to tide me over until I got a new one
[19:11] <kla> Anomie211: try fdisk and see if you can reset the partition table and get it working
[19:11] <Zoohouse> Phr3d13, I don't think it's installed.
[19:11] <Phr3d13> Weird
[19:12] <c[_]> how could irssi cause a kernel panic?
[19:12] <brendan-`> Anomie211: i would think if you didn't do anything software wise to corrupt it, it's probably hardware related and is going to happen again
[19:12] <ThinkT510> Phr3d13: on uk keyboard it is above the right shift key on the same key as #
[19:12] <JusticeZero> Anomie211 brendan-`: Yeah, if a drive has gone bad, there is usually some reason (and you probably never learn what it was) that might still be bouncing around in it.
[19:12] <cristipiticul> hello again
[19:12] <Anomie211> kla: How do I know which <disk> to use in fdisk, just use the bus from lsusb?
[19:13] <ChangJai168> hello, where can I get some help with vtigerCRM?
[19:13] <lowsmoke> does anyone with a danish, or norwegian keyboard know how to type a tilde sign?  this: ~
[19:13] <kla> Anomie211: usually it shows up on the kernel log, try 'dmesg
[19:13] <repozitor> ThinkT510: can you introduce to me a GUI app for connecting two sys to ech other?
[19:13] <repozitor> each*
[19:13] <Zoohouse> ChangJai168, What is it that you need help with?
[19:13] <Anomie211> kla: [ 3295.642192] end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0    -- is this it?
[19:14] <ThinkT510> repozitor: overkill easy: teamviewer
[19:14] <milen8204> Why I can`t modify the panel when I  alt+click on it ?
[19:14] <JusticeZero> lowsmoke usually if it isn't on the keyboard I just open a keymap application of some sort, find the symbol, copy and paste.
[19:14] <cristipiticul> can anybody help me please? I got a problem... Ubuntu stucks before login screen... someone here told me to use a live cd. I've entered ubuntu using the live CD. What should I do?
[19:14] <lowsmoke> JusticeZero: i see it on my keyboard
[19:14] <andyn> lowsmoke: on nordic keyboards press altgr and the button northwest of the enter key
[19:14] <lowsmoke> hm
[19:14] <lowsmoke> i dont have ALtGR
[19:14] <andyn> lowsmoke: and then spacebar, because it is a dead key
[19:14] <lowsmoke> oh, ho!
[19:14] <andyn> right alt then?
[19:14] <c[_]> i do
[19:15] <Zoohouse> cristipiticul, we need more detail to be able to help.
[19:15] <lowsmoke> ""¨
[19:15] <lowsmoke> ¨ ¨
[19:15] <ThinkT510> ~
[19:15] <lowsmoke> ¨
[19:15] <lowsmoke> ¨
[19:15] <l1nuxman> "You need kernel headers to compile compat-wireless. Ensure /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/ exists and points to the location where the kernel headers are installed. If you do not have them, read your distribution's documentation on getting help. " <- how do I do that?
[19:15] <lowsmoke> sorry..
[19:15] <FloodBot1> lowsmoke: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <andyn> try ctrl-alt-¨ then
[19:15] <kla> Anomie211: it could be. If linux is detecting it as an optical drive chances are you won't have much luck with fdisk
[19:15] <c[_]> lol
[19:15] <kla> Anomie211: usually it's something like sdb sdc sda etc...
[19:16] <c[_]> does anyone know why i got htis then http://i.imgur.com/uorz4.jpg
[19:16] <repozitor> ThinkT510: i have VMware and i want to shar my file on  the host and guest ubuntu, no on the inter net, did you understand my problem?
[19:16] <Anomie211> kla: ah, gutter. :(  markg@markg-HP-Compaq-dc7700-Small-Form-Factor:~$ fdisk [options] <sr1>
[19:16] <Anomie211> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[19:16] <_Neytiri_> how do i get my dual moniitor function back in 11.10
[19:16] <lowsmoke> JusticeZero: i thought i had it there..but still no luck
[19:17] <Phr3d13> How do I find out if I still have nvidia drivers installed?
[19:17] <ThinkT510> repozitor: you didn't tell me you were using vmware
[19:17] <kla> Anomie211: try 'fdisk /dev/sr1' (lol) but it should look something like /dev/sdb
[19:17] <repozitor> ThinkT510: ok excuse me :)
[19:17] <ThinkT510> repozitor: in virtualbox you mount a share, not sure in vmware
[19:17] <Zoohouse> Phr3d13, Did you originally installed it?
[19:18] <Anomie211> fdisk /dev/sr1 ////// You will not be able to write the partition table. /// fdisk: unable to read /dev/sr1: Input/output error
[19:18] <Zoohouse> Phr3d13, How did you originally installed it?**
[19:18] <lowsmoke> stupid microsoft entertainment 7000 wirelss keyboard, that cant type Tilde sign :P
[19:18] <_Neytiri_> how do i get my dual moniitor function back in 11.10? my video card supports it and i have the drivers installed
[19:18] <lowsmoke> hey, i just enabled dual monitor, its in settings...
[19:18] <Phr3d13> Yes, but its been a long time since iy messed up and I don't know how far I got trying to fix it
[19:18] <ThinkT510> lowsmoke: you might just be using the wrong keymap
[19:19] <repozitor> ok, can tell me that how to do this in the VritualBox?
[19:19] <repozitor> I'm unabale to mount it too in the Virtualbox
[19:19] <kla> lowsmoke: how can an entertainment keyboard not have the ~ key.. indispensable in bringing up many in-game consoles.. just saying :/
[19:19] <cristipiticul_> do you see what I'm writing?
[19:19] <c[_]> cristipiticul_: no why? :p
[19:19] <lowsmoke> this native irc client with ubuntu is very confusing...all text is in white :)
[19:19] <Phr3d13> Zoohouse: I think from a run file downloaded from nvidia
[19:19] <Zoohouse> _Neytiri_, if you have nvidia installed, try this: gksu nvidia-settings and then enable it.
[19:19] <ThinkT510> repozitor: it is fairly straightforward in the gui, just make sure you install the guest additions and you can set a share
[19:19] <c[_]> lowsmoke: mine is red white and grey :p
[19:20] <lowsmoke> kla: the keyboard has the tilde sign, but no altgr key, so i dunno how to type it :(
[19:20] <cristipiticul_> did you see what I wrote?
[19:20] <_Neytiri_> thanks
[19:20] <Phr3d13> No gui access
[19:20] <Zoohouse> Phr3d13, ah, open synaptic and download it form there.
[19:20] <c[_]> cristipiticul_: yes
[19:20] <apwbdjp> lowsmoke, Ctrl+Alt does the AltGr job
[19:20] <lowsmoke> oh, oh, <21
[19:20] <Phr3d13> No gui, no internet...
[19:20] <lowsmoke> im getting close now i think :)
[19:20] <apwbdjp> lowsmoke, some times..
[19:20] <repozitor> ThinkT510: i have VMware and VirtualBOx, can you say me that how to shar file in the VirtualBOx>
[19:20] <kla> lowsmoke: alt gr... linux can be configured to have it
[19:20] <repozitor> ?
[19:20] <gibbo83> scarface
[19:20] <cristipiticul_> it got stuck sometimes, Mozzila browser and other applications turned gray and saving a small text file took 5-10 seconds
[19:21] <repozitor> my host is:MAC OSX, and guest is UBUNTU
[19:21] <ThinkT510> repozitor: select the vm, open settings and go to shared folders
[19:21] <Phr3d13> Zoohouse: no gui no internet
[19:21] <lowsmoke> Ctrl+Alt+Tilde-sign does nothing.
[19:21] <repozitor> ThinkT510: done
[19:21] <Zoohouse> _Neytiri_, Try reading this, this is where I got the answer from: http://tinyurl.com/bvu57df
[19:21] <cristipiticul_> after some time, no shortcuts worked, ALT + TAB or CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT/RIGHT (shifting workspaces) did nothing
[19:22] <c[_]> lowsmoke: did you try shift+Tilde sign?
[19:22] <ThinkT510> repozitor: can you work it out from there?
[19:22] <kla> lowsmoke: try 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' ........
[19:22] <Phr3d13> ~   copy paste that :)
[19:22] <cristipiticul_> when I put the cursor on the top of the screen the buttons (X,minimize,maximize) didn't appear
[19:22] <lowsmoke> C: shift+tilde does this: ^
[19:22] <cristipiticul_> and CTRL+ALT+DEL gave me an error
[19:22] <rhizmoe> gdm crash from chrome. fantastic.
[19:22] <kla> lowsmoke: you'll find a page where to set a key to act as altGr
[19:22] <repozitor> i selected two file for sharing, but I'm unable to see this files in the ubuntu
[19:22] <c[_]> try shift+6
[19:22] <Timewarper> hey
[19:22] <repozitor> ThinkT510: ^
[19:22] <lowsmoke> kla: i might have to do that if i cant figure this out..
[19:23] <cristipiticul_> does anybody have any ideas?
[19:23] <Timewarper> i need to run xhost +localhost everytime i reboot, how can i make this command permanent?
[19:23] <ThinkT510> repozitor: you need to install guest additions in ubuntu for shared folders to work
[19:23] <Phr3d13> How do I find out if I have any nvidia packages installed?
[19:24] <lowsmoke> phr3d13: press command key, and write nvidia
[19:24] <JusticeZero> lowsmoke: phr is in a CLI shell.
[19:24] <lowsmoke> i should not be giving advice, since i installed ubuntu yesterday :P
[19:24] <Phr3d13> lowsmoke: no gui...
[19:24] <apwbdjp> Phr3d13, it would've been easy from synaptic, but since no gui.. aptitude?
[19:24] <kla> Phr3d13: dpkg --list | grep -i nvidia
[19:24] <repozitor> ThinkT510:i install it in the past
[19:25] <apwbdjp> kla, +1.
[19:25] <Phr3d13> Ty kla
[19:25] <Zoohouse> Phr3d13, run this: whereis nvidia
[19:25] <ThinkT510> repozitor: boot the vm
[19:25] <repozitor> ThinkT510: done
[19:25] <Zoohouse> Phase, what kla says is better.
[19:25] <alexisd> hello, I get a segmentation fault on Heroes of Newerth with Fedora 16 (64bit) and prop Nvidia 290.10
[19:25] <lowsmoke> ^*^"` ^^ ^
[19:25] <ThinkT510> repozitor: tada done
[19:25] <eliterequiem> hey guys, fun question. i cant for the life of me seem to get sane to recognize my UMAX Astra 610P scanner.
[19:25] <alexisd>  actually I get this message: warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite
[19:25] <alexisd>  Crash log saved as '/home/alex/.Heroes of Newerth/game/crash_<IP_ADDRESS>_03.log'
[19:25] <alexisd>  Segmentation fault
[19:25] <lowsmoke> ~
[19:26] <lowsmoke> ~
[19:26] <lowsmoke> ~
[19:26] <FloodBot1> lowsmoke: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <annath> ok so I am looking at this nomodeset stuff and I have one question. can I edit all of this from a LiveCD or something? I can't get grub to show up
[19:26] <c[_]> lowsmoke: have you tried
[19:26] <blognewb> hey guys once i partition the drive, i could no longer merge the pieces back? is that correct?
[19:26] <c[_]> guess you got it then :p
[19:26] <Zoohouse> _Neytiri_, did you get it fixed?
[19:26] <kla> lowsmoke: cheers
[19:26] <lowsmoke> now i can get back to terminal,
[19:26] <lowsmoke> :)
[19:27] <c[_]> what is ~ used for? lol
[19:27] <eliterequiem> anyone have experience making old parallel port scanners work?
[19:27] <kla> c[_]: home
[19:27] <Phr3d13> Ok, returns a few, nvidia-current is one
[19:27] <apwbdjp> c[_], home folder
[19:27] <c[_]> ah
[19:27] <Yo_ou_quoi> yo
[19:27] <JusticeZero> blognewb: You could delete the partitions and create a new one in the space they were
[19:27] <Zoohouse> c[_], ~/
[19:27] <Sylwanin> no Zoohouse it didnt work, it cashed something and now i cant interact with any windows
[19:27] <crazymutex> is there a file somewhere where one can blacklist packages so they don't appear in sources lists?
[19:27] <c[_]> mateusz: i know someone called that :o
[19:27] <cristipiticul> can anybody help me, please?
[19:27] <repozitor> ThinkT510: next step?
[19:28] <ThinkT510> repozitor: thats it, it should be mounted
[19:28] <mateusz> Hi. I just installed new # on my laptop and i cant configure th einternet. Ubuntu has got problem with my on/off function button, so i blocked it. I tried to found smth on the internet but i did not found solution.
[19:28] <repozitor> how to mount it manually?
[19:28] <Malamen> Hi there, I'm with a realy weird problem of missing disk space! Anybopdy please?
[19:28] <Zoohouse> _Neytiri_, Did you read the link I gave you?
[19:28] <blognewb> JusticeZero so you meant if i delete the win7 partition, i can merge that piece back to the remaining partitions which has my ubuntu?
[19:28] <ThinkT510> !mount | repozitor
[19:28] <_Neytiri_> didnt see it
[19:28] <JusticeZero> cristipiticul I don't know what to do there personally, just so you don't feel like everyone is ignoring you.. :p
[19:29] <JusticeZero> blognewb: Which side is it on?
[19:29] <ThinkT510> repozitor: checked under /media?
[19:29] <cristipiticul> thank you, JusticeZero  :D. So nobody has any ideas :(.
[19:29] <kla> mateusz: why can't you configure the internet and how does ubuntu exactly react the on/off function button (is this the wireless enable/disable button?)
[19:29] <cristipiticul> any idea *, sorry
[19:29] <Zoohouse> _Neytiri_, Try reading this: http://tinyurl.com/bvu57df
[19:29] <repozitor> ThinkT510: if the file doesn't appear automatically, I'm unable to see it?
[19:29] <Malamen> >>>>>>>>> Hi there, I'm with a realy weird problem of missing disk space! Anybopdy please?
[19:30] <blognewb> JusticeZero it is partitioned into 3, one for ubuntu, 1 fow win7 one for win7 recovery
[19:30] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> having some issues with 10.04 and my Audigy 2 sound card... Did a fresh install and it doesn't seem to see the audigy. I disabled the onboard sound in the bios already but in the pulseaudio settings it still says "internal" Any help or links to docs are appreciated
[19:30] <ThinkT510> repozitor: you say file.. don't you mean folder? you share directories with files in them
[19:30] <Pici> Malamen: Some details would help us in figuring out what the issue is.
[19:30] <Zoohouse> Malamen, You asked that a few seconds ago. Don't ask again so soon. Why don't you try giving us more details instead?
[19:30] <JusticeZero> blognewb: OK, so what, do you want to just get rid of the windows partition altogether?
[19:30] <repozitor> ThinkT510: i mean folder
[19:30] <repozitor> :D
[19:31] <mateusz> kla: If i push on/off nothing happens ( the wifi light is still off) its this button; After my changes ubuntu does not react on pushing this button the light was always on
[19:31] <projekt26> I created an ext4 file container with truecrypt 7.1 and now when I move my collections of videos and pictures in there it hangs my whole system (ubuntu 11.10).  Has anyone an idea how to fix that?
[19:31] <repozitor> i see in the media floppy and floppy1
[19:31] <Zoohouse> mateusz, you are on a laptop?
[19:31] <Phr3d13> What does the 'rc' before a package in a dpkg --list mean?
[19:31] <blognewb> JusticeZero yes
[19:31] <JusticeZero> blognewb: I assume it's in the order recovery;win7;ubuntu. (are there any partitions inside of that? I usually at least seperate out / and /home..)
[19:31] <kla> mateusz: have you tried pressing it with the 'Fn' key?
[19:31] <mateusz> Zoohouse: no but its near me
[19:31] <ThinkT510> repozitor: you sure you've installed guest additions?
[19:31] <repozitor> ThinkT510:yes
[19:31] <Pici> Phr3d13: the headers of that list explain what the columns mean.
[19:32] <ThinkT510> repozitor: what did you share out of interest?
[19:32] <blognewb> JusticeZero im not quite sure of that one :(
[19:32] <mateusz> kla: yes:)
[19:32] <blognewb> JusticeZero what's the case for either?
[19:32] <kla> blognewb: merging/resizing partitions is a technical and potentionally risky operation.
[19:32] <Phr3d13> No headers...
[19:32] <cristipiticul> hey, does anybody know how to do a "FSCK"?
[19:32] <Phr3d13> There's ii and rc
[19:32] <cristipiticul> from a live CD?
[19:32] <mateusz> kla: iwconfig says: eth0 nowireless extensions
[19:32] <Zoohouse> Phr3d13, RC usually means Release Candidate
[19:33] <JusticeZero> blognewb: If that order is the case, you can merge the windows and ubuntu partitions, but you'll lose the data in the ubuntu partition (unless something has been invented that i'm unaware of).
[19:33] <apwbdjp> Phr3d13, take a look at dpkg --list | less, I do have a header
[19:33] <ThinkT510> !fsck | cristipiticul
[19:33] <repozitor> ThinkT510: yes :)
[19:33] <ThinkT510> repozitor: you shared yes?
[19:33] <cristipiticul> okay, I will try those out
[19:33] <repozitor> ThinkT510: YES :)
[19:34] <Phr3d13> Does nvidia drivers have a reconfigure if something goes wrong command?
[19:34] <JusticeZero> blognewb: generally it's no big deal to fiddle with the back of a partition, but fiddling with the front tends to make everything in the partition blow up.
[19:34] <kla> mateusz: try installing and using 'rfkill'
[19:34] <ThinkT510> repozitor: are you saying it is working?
[19:35] <repozitor> no, it doesn't work :D
[19:35] <kla> mateusz: or urfkill (I haven't used that since I didn't have to)
[19:35] <Exxon> Phr3d13, only the default vesa drivers have ; before you do some thing to nvidia copy the xorg..and then..:))
[19:35] <Zoohouse> Phr3d13, run: man nvidia-xconfig
[19:36] <ThinkT510> repozitor: can you show me a screenshot of your shared folders settings screen for your vm?
[19:36] <repozitor> how?, you must get me email address :P
[19:36] <ThinkT510> !screenshot | repozitor
[19:37] <repozitor> ThinkT510:ok, plz w8
[19:37] <mateusz> kla: sudo apt-get install rfkill doesnot work. i also tried. I tried also witg repos: ~/config/openbox/autostart.sh and bash did not found file.
[19:38] <urthmover> xflock4 is kinda sweet
[19:38] <kla> mateusz: do you have the required firmware files for you wireless card installed?
[19:39] <JusticeZero> BAH! Lubuntu menu: "Run" ... that's IT? and all 'Run' does is move the panel back to the bottom?
[19:39] <Exxon> kla, if the modules are loaded you only have to pin it down, things will work fine.
[19:39] <cristipiticul> can you please tell me how to do a fsck manually on my ubuntu partition from the live CD?
[19:40] <ThinkT510> JusticeZero: what? you can move and change the panels all you like in lxde
[19:40] <mateusz> kla: i thing yes. It works . I did like: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up. But i probably have to do this every time i log. How to make it "up" permanently
[19:40] <Zoohouse> cristipiticul, which live CD are you using?
[19:40] <cristipiticul> ubuntu 9.0
[19:40] <cristipiticul> 9.10
[19:41] <JusticeZero> ThinkT510: I put it on top where i'm used to it. Then I went to open something. The only thing there was "Run", and all "Run" did was move the panel to the bottom of the screen where I just moved it from.
[19:41] <kla> mateusz: install wpasupplicant, dhclient and set up the interface through /etc/network/interfaces
[19:41] <JusticeZero> ThinkT510: sorry, correction - "Run" and "Log Out".
[19:42] <ThinkT510> JusticeZero: i don't follow sorry, you can put the panels anywhere and add/remove widgets to them (just like xfce), how did run put the panel back to the bottom?
[19:42] <kla> mateusz: configure it like any other interface except add things like wpa-ssid, wpa-psk etc..
[19:43] <cristipiticul> Deleted inode 264306 has zero dtime.  Fix<y>?
[19:43] <cristipiticul> what should I do here?
[19:43] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello all.  I'm trying to paste something into the /var/www folder in Ubuntu, but there is no option to paste, paste into folder, or otherwise.  Am I missing something? I'm logged in as an account that has administrative rights, but not root.
[19:43] <kla> cristipiticul: fix
[19:43] <cristipiticul> Directory inode 27698, block 0, offset 0: directory corrupted Salvage<y>?
[19:43] <c[_]> Cajun_Lan_Man: sudo chown yourname /var/www
[19:43] <JusticeZero> ThinkT510: Because that is the only thing that happenned when I selected it.
[19:43] <c[_]> worked for me
[19:43] <cristipiticul> ok.. I'll fix all, ok?
[19:44] <ThinkT510> JusticeZero: sorry, that doesn't make sense. run should bring up a dialog box asking you to input a command
[19:44] <JusticeZero> ThinkT510: grr. I guess i'll have to try xubuntu on it next.
[19:45] <ThinkT510> JusticeZero: xfce is my favourite
[19:45] <Zoohouse> cristipiticul, Found something that may help. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-boot-ubuntu-linux-rescue-mode/
[19:45] <JusticeZero> It's been nothing but problems since I tried other things.
[19:46] <kla> c[_]: Cajun_Lan_Man : best to set ownership to an admin group, chmod g=rwx and add yourself to the grp
[19:46] <ColourMan> I have a quick question, is there anyway to have ubuntu not stop the boot process if it finds that a hdd (usb) is not connected that has been listed on fstab?
[19:46] <cristipiticul> can you please give me that link again?
[19:46] <Zoohouse> cristipiticul, Found something that may help. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-boot-ubuntu-linux-rescue-mode/
[19:46] <cristipiticul> having troubles with this irc... /dev/sda7: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /dev/sda7: 232156/512064 files (0.4% non-contiguous), 1518781/2048256 blocks
[19:46] <Cajun_Lan_Man> got it.  Thanks all.
[19:47] <JusticeZero> I like xfce too, but i'd had high hopes of finding something else that would work.. and now THIS machine is acting odd.
[19:47] <kla> ColourMan: try adding 'noautho' the othe options in the fstab
[19:47] <kla> ColourMan: noauto - sorry
[19:47] <ColourMan> kla: will give that a shot, will that mean however I will have to mount after boot?
[19:48] <JusticeZero> I was 'trying out' Unity on this machine. I wanted to give it a decent chance. My conclusion is I love the dash and hate everything else.
[19:48] <kla> ColourMan: I believe so
[19:48] <ColourMan> kla: Ok thanks for that will give it a try now
[19:48] <JusticeZero> So I tried Bodhi on the other machine, since it was listed as a computer that was a successful install. But that ended up failing epically. So I tried putting lubuntu on it and I got that wierdness.
[19:49] <cristipiticul> Zoohouse: thank you, I will try to reboot and select "Recover a broken system"
[19:49] <kla> ColourMan: y/ welcome :)
[19:49] <Zoohouse> cristipiticul, awesome
[19:49] <accipter> sometimes when I am using my trackpad 5 orange circles appears on a window (center and four edges), but I can't interact with them and I can't find any information out about them. What do they do?
[19:49] <ThinkT510> JusticeZero: bodhi? that uses enlightenment? enlightenment has always been a mixed bag for me
[19:50] <ChangJai> hello
[19:50] <Zoohouse> ChangJai, hi
[19:50] <qmr_> How do I move close button and such back to the right?
[19:50] <JusticeZero> It worked perfectly on the usb, but on the hard drive it crashes E17 when you try logging in and thus, cannot get past login screen.
[19:50] <ThinkT510> !controls
[19:51] <Zoohouse> qmr_, what are you talking about? Need more details
[19:51] <three18ti__> is there an API for the notification bar?
[19:52] <qmr_> Zoohouse: ... you click a button to close your windows, right?  how do you put that back on the right side of the window
[19:52] <ThinkT510> !controls | qmr_
[19:53] <qmr_> wow, look at the brain on this one
[19:53] <milen8204> What should I do to can modify my panel on gnome 3.2.1 whit Alt+rightclick ?
[19:53] <repozitor> thinkt510:http://imagebin.org/186387
[19:53] <JusticeZero> anyhow I just need to make sure I have one good computer, and the one i'm on has graphical corruption briefly in menus that alarms the heck out of me, on top of the 'locks up when under battery power' thing
[19:53] <mateusz> kla: i rebooted and wlan0 up command does not work now
[19:53] <qmr_> The bot is not working.  So does anyone have a real answer?
[19:54] <_Neytiri_> is there a way to get the classic desktop back?
[19:54] <qmr_> _Neytiri_: change your session type when you login
[19:54] <_Neytiri_> where? i am running 11.10
[19:54] <qmr_> _Neytiri_: at the login screen
[19:54] <Exxon> mateusz, sudo if config wlan0 up
[19:55] <Exxon> mateusz, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:55] <ThinkT510> repozitor: and repozitor doesn't appear in /media/ or /mnt/ on the vm?
[19:55] <mateusz> Exxon: i did sudo
[19:55] <repozitor> yes
[19:55] <cristipiticul> Thank you, I got it working, Zoohouse
[19:55] <JusticeZero> _Neytiri_: Change the session type in the login screen (you can log out to get to that) but the old classic gnome desktop has been going away for various reasons, inspiring a lot of experimenting with other desktps by people.
[19:55] <ThinkT510> repozitor: and after you added the shared folder you restarted the vm?
[19:56] <Zoohouse> cristipiticul, awesome, glad it helped.
[19:56] <cristipiticul> thank you JusticeZero
[19:56] <Zoohouse> qmr_, read this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/532633
[19:56] <cristipiticul> :D
[19:56] <cristipiticul> have a nice day everybody ^_^
[19:56] <Exxon> mateusz, lspvi -v paste the out to pastebin
[19:57] <apwbdjp> Exxon, mateusz lspci you meant?
[19:57] <qmr_> Zoohouse: that is horrible and disgusting.  Why all this bs just to move controls?  Why is the thumbnail for the theme showing the controls on the right?
[19:57] <mateusz> Exxon: it works sry me noob. Can u help with make it always works? now i have to do like every log sudo ifconfig... i want it auto
[19:57] <UnknownFrequency> Hi... I'm trying to write a script that searches through .pdf's from a specific string. The problem is that it can't seem to search files with characters that needs to be escaped.. Any ideas?
[19:57] <UnknownFrequency> for i in $(find . -iname '*.pdf' -print) ; do echo "$i" ; pdftotext "$i" - | grep -in 'sitemap' ; done
[19:59] <Exxon> mateusz, i really have to know the module that have been loaded only you can tell me or paste the output
[20:00] <Malamen>  Hi there, I'm with a realy weird problem of missing disk space! Anybopdy please?
[20:00] <ThinkT510> Malamen: you'd better find it again
[20:00] <mkanyicy> UnknownFrequency, so it is not working?
[20:01] <FnorZ> UnknownFrequency, never seen this complicated 'find' construction. Maybe it works with "for i in *.pdf; do echo ..."
[20:02] <Zoohouse> Malamen, Do you mean that you deleted something really large and then when you check System Monitor, you don't see a change in free space?
[20:02] <apwbdjp> Malamen, you're gonna have to be more specific than "A weird problem of missing disk space". Come on, tell us what you do, and what you see.
[20:02] <Exxon> Malamen, simply delete the unwanted..free up the space there is nothing else can be done about it ; or plug in externeal copy it ; free it up
[20:03] <c[_]> erm ive lost the side bar and menu when i logged on
[20:03] <c[_]> all i have is my desktop and docky
[20:04] <mateusz> Exxon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/755311/
[20:04] <Exxon> c[_], alt +F2
[20:05] <c[_]> Exxon nothing
[20:05] <c[_]> oh :o
[20:05] <c[_]> ubuntu login
[20:05] <c[_]> o.O
[20:06] <Exxon> mateusz, sudo modprobe ath9k
[20:06] <kla> c[_]: you've been segfaulted :(
[20:06] <c[_]> ok it shows terminal
[20:06] <mateusz> Exxon: nothing. I am on crunchbang
[20:07] <riveram> I'm new to the linux world, but the more I use Ubuntu the more I like it.  I was just wondering, cuz I read an article that predicted this.  Do you guys think ubuntu is dying?  That even though it has the money and work being put into it that it does, it'll eventually fall.  Never becoming a mainstream alternative?
[20:07] <c[_]> segfalted? :(
[20:07] <Pici> riveram: This channel is for support only, if you want to discuss that, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:07] <Exxon> mateusz, crunchbang is arch distro..no command of ubuntu will work sorry
[20:07] <Resistance> !crunchbang | mateusz
[20:07] <jaimef> riveram: see trends.google.com
[20:08] <c[_]> !segfalted
[20:08] <riveram> k
[20:08] <c[_]> !segfaulted
[20:08] <Resistance> c[_], can we help you with anything?
[20:09] <c[_]> yeah when i log on i dont have the sidebar or the one at the top
[20:09] <Resistance> c[_], then wait for someone to assist you rather than trying to use the bot and failing./
[20:09] <apwbdjp> c[_], and then X suddenly crashes and you find yourself at login screen again?
[20:09] <Zoohouse> c[_], this might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault
[20:09] <xangua> Hello everyone, little question: does Overlay Scrollbar works also on Firefox in Oneiric Ocelot¿ using lucid now but i'll like to know ;)
[20:09] <JessD> Does anyone know how to move screenlets in gnome3?
[20:10] <c[_]> apwbdjp i rebooted and logged in like normal and it was like it
[20:11] <apwbdjp> c[_], and it's like it at every boot from then on?
[20:11] <xangua> JessD: tried pressing Alt and drag¿
[20:11] <JessD> xangua : Nope, doesn't work,and they aren't locked, either.
[20:12] <JessD> xangua : alt-move works on everything else though
[20:12] <ThinkT510> xangua: whats with the upside down ?'s
[20:12] <c[_]> aaah now i see why
[20:12] <xangua> JessD: locked¿ are you talking about Panel Indicators ¿
[20:12] <Exxon> mateusz, sorry my mistake its debian ..arch bang is sometimething else ; i don't use or been even familiar with debian
[20:12] <xangua> those are not 'screenlets' ;)
[20:13] <JessD> xangua Screenlets have a locked setting to keep you from moving them
[20:13] <Zoohouse> JessD, I don't know how to do it, but I did find this article that has a little dirty work around. It might help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/81184/cannot-move-screenlets-in-gnome-shell
[20:13] <c[_]> the box at the bottom was on user defined session and not Ubuntu classic
[20:13] <c[_]> :/ now its different
[20:14] <JessD> Zoohouse : worked, thank you.
[20:14] <Zoohouse> JessD, awesome, glad it worked
[20:15] <mateusz> Exxon: sorry fir my mistake but default my irc client makes me this ubuntu irc now i am on crunchbang. Thanks
[20:15] <Exxon> mateusz, debian guys can help you instead..simply don't tell them crunchbang..:))
[20:16] <Pici> Exxon: Please don't provide that kind of advice here.
[20:17] <landono> Does anyone know how to only get kernel source files when using apt-mirror?
[20:18] <akuarius> algum tuga?
[20:18] <akuarius> hi all
[20:18] <akuarius> boas
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> landono  apt-get zource?
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> landono  apt-get source?
[20:18] <akuarius> any one can tell me how can i robe a bank with ubuntu? lol
[20:19] <landono> no, I'm creating a local repository, and I want to mirror the fiels
[20:19] <akuarius> im a poor guy and i nedd some funds to buy a new car
[20:19] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all, I'm running the heliwm window manager and when I start an aterm, I get a BadWindow error. stracing it produces this: http://pastebin.com/mKRS1Wzn some strange thing about the C locales.. any idea what's going on?
[20:19] <landono> but I only want to get the standard packages, and the kernel source files, not the source files for the packages
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> akuarius  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <ThinkT510> akuarius: "robe a bank" haha, you want to clothe it in ubuntu?
[20:20]  * kla muffles a laughter
[20:20] <Exxon> akuarius, take the laptop /pc with you ..simple :))
[20:21] <landono> I'm creating a local ubuntu repository, does anyone know how to mirror only the kernel source files? I'm currently mirroring the standard packages, and I want the source files for the kernel only, not for the packages.
[20:21] <akuarius> yes robe a bank lol
[20:22] <Exxon> landono, what kernel are you trying to compile does it have version.. name
[20:22] <trism> landono: there is a separate linux-source package, so you shouldn't need to do anything special to get it (unless you wanted the source with the debian directory as well)
[20:22] <landono> to be honest, I'm not sure, we're running Ubunut 10.04 and I was asked to mirror the kernel sources that we use
[20:23] <resus> hi
[20:23] <resus> how do i see the grub2 menu so i know which default to set?
[20:23] <_Neytiri_> I am trying to get the classic desktop in 11.10 and where do i select that on the login?
[20:23] <resus> without rebooting and counting it of course
[20:24] <ThinkT510> _Neytiri_: select the right session
[20:24] <RoadsterGT> I am running firefox as another user (sudo -u john -H firefox) but i have no sound. It appears it cant connect to alsa. How can i fix that?
[20:24] <Exxon> landono, in 10.04 why will that be ..if only you are trying to something extraordinary..pls let us now about it
[20:24] <ThinkT510> !notunity | _Neytiri_
[20:25] <_Neytiri_> thanks
[20:25] <landono> Alright, to be honest I'm not sure which kernel sources we need, I'll talk to my co workers and find out real quick
[20:25] <Zoohouse> _Neytiri_, When you log in, before you put in your password, you can change your session.
[20:25] <akuarius> any gorgeous girl to skype? lets talk about love
[20:26] <Zoohouse> I think it's time for some one to go.
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> akuarius  please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of chat
[20:26] <ThinkT510> akuarius: take it elsewhere
[20:26] <Pici> MonkeyDust: no please do not join #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of chat
[20:26] <Exxon> landono, what kernel are you running aleast that you know...for g-sake
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Pici  you're right
[20:26] <Pici> !floodbots | uh990
[20:28] <landono> So I need to have the source files for 2.6.26
[20:28] <landono> It's for a university assignment, the students have to compile a custom kernel using the source files for 2.6.26
[20:28] <Zoohouse> landono, This might help once you find the kernel source you speak of. It describes how to set up a local repo mirror within your network which sounds like what you have been asked to do. http://www.packtpub.com/article/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-apt-cacher
[20:29] <landono> thanks zoohouse, I've been using that tutorial already, I have the repository mostly set up now, I just need to learn how to add the source files for 2.6.26
[20:30] <ThinkT510> landono: 2.6.26 is rather old, 10.04 is lts and uses 2.6.32
[20:30] <landono> actually you're correct, it is 2.6.32, I typed it in wrong
[20:30] <Exxon> landono, is it 2.6.26-3.9
[20:30] <MrPink> i installed ubuntu today-
[20:31] <landono> no, I was misinformed, it is 2.6.32
[20:31] <ThinkT510> !yay | MrPink
[20:31] <Zoohouse> ThinkT510, wow, you guys have bang msgs for a lot of things :D
[20:31] <trism> landono: then you should be fine, the linux-source package will have the tarball for 2.6.32 plus the ubuntu patches
[20:31] <nullucas> Hi, which applications can be considered safe in ubuntu because they are updated automatically for security fixes? For example, I have pidgin 2.6.6, but the lastest is 2.9... where can I discuss this, if this is not the right place? Thanks
[20:31] <akuarius> can i robe a bank with ubuntu?
[20:32] <akuarius> tell me plese i nedd some funds to by a new car
[20:32] <landono> in my repository, I got the packages, but I didn't get the sources, will I need the sources as well for the kernel?
[20:32] <inashdeen> hi, this may be a funny question, but seriously i need an answaer. if let say i put the backlight issue fix (ubuntu 11.04 and ubuntu 11.1) to a computer with no backlight problem, will that cause a problem???
[20:32] <ThinkT510> akuarius: stop that please
[20:32] <MrPink> after booting my computer only prints the word GRUB. but no menu is showing up nor ubuntu ... -.-
[20:32] <akuarius> ok
[20:32] <xangua> !latest | nullucas
[20:32] <RoadsterGT> I am running firefox as another user (sudo -u john -H firefox) but i have no sound. It appears it cant connect to alsa. How can i fix that?
[20:32] <Exxon> landono, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/                        good luck
[20:32] <arunce> anyone know how to configure the pidgin to start with some flags when i call it in the indicator plugin?
[20:32] <MrPink> any idea what's going on?
[20:32] <ThinkT510> Zoohouse: it helps to private message ubottu ;)
[20:33] <trism> landono: my point is that linux-source is a package containing source code, it is not a source package (package used to build the package), so you should have it
[20:33] <landono> ah ok perfect, so I should be good
[20:33] <landono> thanks a lot
[20:33] <resus> anyone know how to see the grub2 menu list without rebooting?
[20:34] <MrPink> i installed ubuntu today. after booting my computer it only prints the word GRUB. but no menu is showing up nor ubuntu ... -.- any idea what's going on?
[20:34] <ThinkT510> resus: you could look at your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:34] <resus> ThinkT510 it's not in there no os entries at all
[20:34] <akuarius> u need to download a new version of ubuntu
[20:35] <ThinkT510> resus: can you pastebin it?
[20:35] <resus> ThinkT510 i want to change the default os to boot in /etc/default/grub
[20:35] <OerHeks> resus do you use sudo to open that file ? else it would be empty ..
[20:35] <resus> OerHeks it's not empty
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> resus  try /etc/default/grub
[20:35] <Zoohouse> landono, Have you looked at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ ?
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> ah you know that
[20:36] <resus> are you guys telling me you have OS entries in your /etc/default/grub?
[20:36] <ThinkT510> resus: no, they are in grub.cfg
[20:37] <Zoohouse> MrPink, are you doing a dual boot?
[20:38] <K9> Hello everyone. I am using Acer Travelmate 4740 laptop running Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity. The scroll feature on my touchpad is not working. I found some solutions on the forum but they were for gnome. Please help.
[20:38] <resus> oh /boot/grub/grub.cfg i see menuentry blocks
[20:38] <MrPink> Zoohouse: nope. fresh install. i installed fedora earlier, had some problems too, starting it, but after a time it suddenly worked. then i decided that i want to install ubuntu - clean install. but yeah, no grub-menu ...
[20:39] <resus> that is so awkward to read
[20:39] <ThinkT510> K9: unity is built on top of gnome
[20:39] <resus> is there a tool that parses that so your brain doesn't break reading it?
[20:39] <resus> god what was wrong with menu.lst
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> Myrtti  http://www.linkedin.com/in/clowillaerts
[20:40] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all, I'm running the heliwm window manager and when I start an aterm, I get a BadWindow error. stracing it produces this: http://pastebin.com/mKRS1Wzn some strange thing about the C locales.. any idea what's going on?
[20:40] <ThinkT510> resus: you might need a new brain, or might be quicker for you to just restart and write the list down
[20:40] <Zoohouse> MrPink, do you have more than one hard drive installed on your system?
[20:40] <milen8204> how can I set copiz to default settings ?
[20:41] <MrPink> Zoohouse: yeah, there are two, same brand
[20:41] <resus> ThinkT510 i don't think i'm being unreasonable
[20:41] <mkanyicy> milen8204, compiz?
[20:41] <resus> thanks for the advice though
[20:41] <ThinkT510> resus: you think grub.cfg is complicated?
[20:41] <milen8204> CompizConfig ?
[20:41] <WLU> I cannot seem to mirror displays in ubuntu 11.10. the screen on the laptop is almost halved and the display on the external monitor has the wrong resolution. All is fine if IO do not mirror. Any help is greatly appreciated
[20:41] <Zoohouse> MrPink, did you install everything on the same drive?
[20:42] <MrPink> Zoohouse: yep, i also removed the drive (the cable) to check if theres a conflict ...
[20:43] <nullucas> Thanks, I'm wondering about security fixes, mainly. Which applications should I expect ubuntu to keep safe, and which shouldn't? I hope the stuff that uses the net are safe at least: pidgin, browser, xchat...
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> nullucas  what kind of threats do you have in mind?
[20:44] <ThinkT510> nullucas: if you use a supported version of ubuntu then you will get security updates
[20:44] <MrPink> Zoohouse: maybe its time to throw the hard-drive away - but strange that there are only problems with the mbr ...
[20:45] <MrPink> Zoohouse: is there some way to test the mbr for hard-drive-errors?
[20:46] <Pici> nullucas: All packages in main are definitely supported for ate least 18 months. And you'll be receiving security updates.
[20:46] <Zoohouse> MrPink, maybe but I don't know how.
[20:48] <ssta> if the HD is suspect, bin it and replace it.  HDs are cheap compared to losing the data on them
[20:49] <Zoohouse> MrPink, Here's how to fix your grub if the MBR is messed up. You can use your install CD as a live CD... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[20:49] <MrPink> Zoohouse: thx for that :D
[20:50] <Zoohouse> MrPink, no problem
[20:55] <arunce> anyone know how to configure the pidgin to start with some flags when I call it in the indicator plugin?
[20:56] <Zoohouse> arunce, try asking in #pidgin
[20:56] <arunce> Zoohouse: but my problem is with indicator plugin... pidgin is fine
[20:57] <trism> arunce: which flags? indicator-messages just invokes the .desktop file, so you could probably add your flags to the Exec line in /usr/share/applications/pidgin.desktop
[20:58] <apwbdjp> trism, clever
[20:59] <ale_> Hi, what is the package I need so as to have a system->preferences->sound -> hardware ??  - I currently only have system->preferences
[20:59] <ale_> this is lubuntu 11.04
[21:00] <xangua> ale_: right clic on the notification sound icon
[21:00] <arunce> trism: modified it, don't work. I had to remove the network manager, since them pidgin failt to find a network
[21:00] <arunce> fails
[21:00] <arunce> "pidgin -f &" works fine
[21:00] <ale_> thanks
[21:00] <ale_> :)
[21:01] <gzy> hi, i'm looking for a way to do a clean ubuntu install, without any bootable media apart from the harddrive itself, possible?
[21:01] <Zoohouse> gzy, like a network install?
[21:02] <gzy> (network is the way i originally installed ubuntu on this computer, and yes it would work, but i'm looking for other options)
[21:03] <trism> arunce: strange, I've never had a problem with pidgin failing because I wasn't using network-manager. but I don't see why: Exec=pidgin -f wouldn't work
[21:05] <uzr007> I luv ubuntu
[21:05] <Zoohouse> gzy, would a usb drive be out of the question?
[21:06] <Zoohouse> uzr007, and Ubuntu luv you
[21:06] <gzy> Zoohouse: i have a funny computer that only boots hdd and lan.
[21:06] <uzr007> Zoohouse :-)
[21:06] <ziyadb> Hi, how do I reload my video driver?
[21:07] <ziyadb> or just the GUI
[21:07] <ziyadb> how do I reload GNOME?
[21:07] <apwbdjp> gzy, you could do an install on another computer, and dd it into that hard drive
[21:08] <dr3mro> hello , looking for Todo app , time managment app .. with indicator support >> any help ?
[21:08] <gzy> Zoohouse: i found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Alternate_CD_Alternate_Method which looks promising, but looks a little complicated
[21:08] <Zoohouse> dr3mro, if you open synaptic and do a search for time management, you will find some with good descriptions.
[21:08] <apwbdjp> gzy, alternate CD still needs a CD
[21:09] <Si2100> Hi Guys, do you now if Steam is coming to linux / ubunt ?
[21:09] <Pici> Si2100: Ask Valve.
[21:10] <Zoohouse> gzy, you need to boot onto something to do it. If you have 2 hard drives maybe you can boot onto one and install on the other?
[21:10] <gzy> i would imagine it should be possible to startup the installer from ubuntu somehow, wipe the hdd and install, after a new mbr / boot loader is written the computer should be able to boot from it's own hdd
[21:10] <gzy> Zoohouse: would that work with 2 partitions?
[21:10] <xangua> no, but there is desura Si2100 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/desura%E2%80%99s-gem/
[21:11] <Zoohouse> gzy, not sure. Might be fun to google :)
[21:11] <JWFoxJr> Si2100: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Steam+for+Linux
[21:11] <apwbdjp> gzy, did you consider the installation on another machine?
[21:11] <annath> back again. So, I am still having trouble with Ubuntu booting to a blank screen. Nomodeset didn't work for me. :| Are there any other fixes for it?
[21:11] <gzy> Zoohouse: k, i'll look into it, just asked here in case there's a method i'm missing.
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> annath: which video chip do you use?
[21:11] <trism> arunce: oh, you may need to log out/back in after changing the file, because I don't know that indicator-messages watches the files for changes (so it may only parse them once on startup)
[21:12] <gzy> apwbdjp: but how do i move the contents the of the disk (while i'm booted into the old install? ) and won't unmatching hardware be a problem?
[21:12] <yosemite> Hello!
[21:13] <annath> the card is an nvidia geforce 9 series built by pny
[21:13] <gzy> (i did hear people install windows like that : move the hdd into a sane laptop, install windows, move drive back in and solve hardware problems)
[21:13] <apwbdjp> gzy, unlike windows, ubuntu can be moved to a completely different machine and still work without much troubles
[21:13] <annath> this motherboard unfortunately doesn't have onboard graphics
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> annath: try the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[21:13] <annath> ll
[21:13] <annath> kk*
[21:13] <yosemite> In ssh. How can I transfer files from device to computer?
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> yosemite  with scp
[21:14] <gzy> apwbdjp: i do have a fresh install of 11.10 on another laptop, could you give me some keywords to google as to how to move it onto the old comp?
[21:14] <_Neytiri_> !classic
[21:14] <Zoohouse> gzy, I'm guessing it's the same concept as using a USB drive to boot/install Ubuntu on the hard drive but using another drive instead....
[21:14] <_Neytiri_> !notunity
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> yosemite: use scp, nautilus can connect to sshfs
[21:15] <apwbdjp> gzy, that might be tricky from within the installation itself, can you take out that hard drive and plug it somewhere else?
[21:15] <tapout> hey guys, what is another option that is awesome other than unity?  Unity is not for me...  I've tried to like it, there is no way I can.
[21:15] <yosemite> Alright thanks guys
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> tapout: gnome-shell
[21:15] <diatomaceous> tapout: I'm having fun with gnome3
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> tapout: or install xfce4 and use xfce which feels and smells like gnome2
[21:16] <tapout> I'll do gnome-shell
[21:16] <annath> nouveau.blacklist=1 didn't work on it's own, I'll try it in combination with nomodeset and see what happens
[21:16] <samj190494> hey, how come i can't get to the ubuntu music store through rhythmbox anymore? there isn't the option in the sidebar and i can't find anything in the options
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> diatomaceous: unity is a shell for gnome3
[21:16] <tapout> gnome3 = unity, no?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> tapout: unity is a shell for gnome3
[21:16] <MeirD> Hello
[21:16] <Zoohouse> MeirD, hi
[21:16] <MeirD> I just installed ubuntu and I have microsoft webcam
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> samj190494  F9, sidepane
[21:16] <gzy> apwbdjp, Zoohouse: I was just after some convenience.. moving out the hdd is more tedious than doing a lan install. the only reason i don't want to do a lan install is i only have a tiny cable and the router tucked away. so i'd have to take the lap to the office and stay afterhours ...
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: if you run cheese, do you see yourself?
[21:17] <MeirD> connecting the usb to my laptop does nothing... how can ubuntu recognize it?
[21:17] <samj190494> MonkeyDust, i have the sidepane open and it isn't there
[21:17] <gzy> i was just hoping that there's some magical way to install ubuntu fresh from whithin itself.
[21:17] <MeirD> apt-get install cheese?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: its part of a default install but if it's not then run the command you gave (prepend with sudo)
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> samj190494  edit > plugins, you find it there?
[21:18] <MeirD> ok, trying
[21:18] <samj190494> MonkeyDust, there is an option for the magnetude and jamendo store but no ubuntu one
[21:19] <MeirD> I see myself
[21:19] <annath> no joy from nouveau.blacklist=1 :(
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: cool, its working then
[21:19] <Zoohouse> MeirD, yes, sudo apt-get install cheese
[21:19] <orzel> hello. during an update to oneiric through ssh, there was a conflict on a file (cupsd). I did 'suspend update to check file', but now  i dont know how to go back to the update. 'screen -r' doesn't work, but ps aux shows the process is still there: ├─oneiric(3416)───dpkg(25401)───bash(6071)
[21:19] <apwbdjp> gzy, I understand..
[21:19] <orzel> i can't go up with history to see if this was explained when suspending
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> annath: delete the: quiet splash       boot options, you can then watch the boot
[21:20] <orzel> i can ssh to port 1022, but this doesn't help neither
[21:20] <annath> k
[21:20] <Zoohouse> gzy, the laptop doesn't have a CD drive?
[21:20] <orzel> googling is of no help because 'suspend' raises all 'suspend to disk' questions, which is not the problem here
[21:20] <MeirD> good
[21:20] <MeirD> only problem
[21:20] <MeirD> is that the built in camera comes with mic
[21:20] <MeirD> and it does work
[21:20] <gzy> Zoohouse: it's a toshiba portege m200, only boot's from a couple of specific toshiba made cd drives. and network.
[21:21] <apwbdjp> orzel, tried fg?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> MeirD: ok then is the mic set as the input device in sound settings
[21:21] <orzel> apwbdjp:  yes, this was my first attempt : 'no job'
[21:21] <MeirD> ok, ill try that
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> orzel: try:  ubuntu suspend <model of system>
[21:21] <Zoohouse> MeirD, sudo apt-get install cheese.swiss can also be used if you have a web cam from Switzerland. ;)
[21:21] <orzel> apwbdjp: actually i had to kind of quit screen with 'x'
[21:21] <orzel> ActionParsnip: sorry??? there's no 'ubuntu' command
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> orzel: in your searches online....not terminal
[21:22] <Zoohouse> gzy, do you have ubuntu on the laptop now and you want to upgrade?
[21:22] <orzel> ActionParsnip: ah, k :)
[21:23] <orzel> ActionParsnip: but 'ubuntu suspend' will always show hardware suspend stuff, not 'update suspend'
[21:23] <gzy> Zoohouse: yeah, when win crashed and burned i installed ubuntu since linux was the only thing i actually could install on it (via lan), and ever since gutsy i've been upgrading.
[21:23] <orzel> and of course, the db is locked so i can't just start it again/over
[21:23] <gzy> i wanted to clean it up and do a fresh install, since i've finally got a new laptop.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> orzel: true but you want it for a particular system
[21:24] <rotor_> hi everyone
[21:24] <orzel> ActionParsnip: no, i dont care about hardware suspend
[21:24] <orzel> i have a process 'oneiric-dpkg-bash' i'd like to go back to
[21:24] <orzel> i'd like to resume my update
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> gzy: if you've been upgrading since gutsy it may be time for a clean install, shake off the old cobwebs and such :)
[21:25] <Zoohouse> gzy, seems like the options are lan install or lan upgrade... If you upgrade, here's a few tools that will help you clean up the system a bit: http://zfranciscus.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/great-tools-to-clean-your-ubuntu/
[21:25] <annath> I didn't see anything. :|
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | orzel
[21:25] <apwbdjp> orzel, at worst, you could kill the update, apt-get can resume without much danger, right?
[21:25] <newb> People, I'm with a problem here. My gnome 3.2 installation is broken on 11.10, but I discovered some minutes ago this: if I start gnome from lightdm I receive only my wallpaper, but if I start X with "startx /usr/bin/gnome-shell " sounds like all is working.
[21:25] <gzy> Zoohouse: thanks
[21:26] <orzel> ubottu:  no crash, i just choosed 'z' when aptitude was asking about a config file conflict. 'z' stands to 'suspend update to check the file. File is checked, but i dont know how to go back to the aptitude process that held the lock on db
[21:26] <annath> If I don't do anything to the boot parameters I see the ubuntu logo and then black... without quiet and splash but with nomodeset I see nothing at all. I'm going to try it again without quiet, splash, and nomodeset
[21:26] <orzel> ActionParsnip:  no crash, i just choosed 'z' when aptitude was asking about a config file conflict. 'z' stands to 'suspend update to check the file. File is checked, but i dont know how to go back to the aptitude process that held the lock on db
[21:26] <orzel> ActionParsnip: it's not 'broken', just 'hidden', if you prefer
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> orzel: but the packages are still locked by the process, if you run that it will kill it and free up the packages, then continue the install
[21:28] <annath> would vt.handoff=7 have anything to do with it?
[21:28] <LetterRip> Hi, the latest update of the pulseaudio seems to have messed up audio so now it seems really choppy
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> annath: try it
[21:28] <annath> I got nothing with quiet, splash and nomodeset removed
[21:28] <LetterRip> any way to revert it?
[21:29] <orzel> ActionParsnip: it clearly stated that it was just suspended and i could go back. It probably said how i have to do, but it's not on the screen anymore. I'd like to know this information : how to go back
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> annath: if you intend to only install ubuntu or are ok with partitioning, then you can use the alternate ISO and install in text mode
[21:29] <LetterRip> It is choppy even when there is very little load
[21:29] <shomon> Hi, what is the package I need so as to have a system->preferences->sound -> hardware ??  - I currently only have system->preferences - the reason is my audio is gone and videos until recently were playing double speed, after an update
[21:29] <guntbert> orzel: type         fg
[21:29] <annath> Well I already had it installed and set up from a clean install, I am thinking that I may have to do that though
[21:29] <arunce> trism: that's it. It's working now. Thank you.
[21:30] <annath> I don't have anything important here so I can format and rebuild if I need to
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> LetterRip: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse; rm ~/.pulse-cookie     wait a few seconds, then try sound apps
[21:30] <LetterRip> it seems that it might be the 'rewind' bug since it seems to repeat some chunks of audio
[21:30] <annath> I saw an ubuntu logo and then nothing that time
[21:30] <annath> I was also trying to run a virtual machine of windows as well
[21:30] <annath> but I guess I can do that on another machine
[21:31] <orzel> guntbert: everybody tells me so. fg doesn't work, there's no bg process. It says 'no task'
[21:31] <annath> I just don't know what I might've done to cause it to suddenly stop working because it was fine for a couple of weeks
[21:31] <annath> I don
[21:31] <annath> I don't *think* I change the video driver or anything like that
[21:31] <nelson777br> hello, is it possible to su to a sytem user ?
[21:31] <xo0t> hey, I just upgraded to 11.10 .. but I was wondering how I can go back to the old desktop look??
[21:32] <apwbdjp> nelson777br, yes, if you have his user password, then su username
[21:32] <guntbert> orzel: so you closed the session where you started it - just kill it like has been suggested
[21:32] <elgaton> !nounity | xo0t
[21:32] <austeregrim> anyone know what /home/.cache/checkbox.log is from? it ended up being 22gb in size
[21:32] <orzel> guntbert:  ok...
[21:32] <nelson777br> what is the default password for kernoops ?
[21:32] <elgaton> nelson777br: sudo -u username
[21:33] <orzel> guntbert: what about my config file (cupsd.conf) ? it doesn't ask me anymore..? it forgot about it?
[21:33] <Viking667> I've got a weird problem when trying to run synaptic on oneiric..
[21:33] <nelson777br> apwbdjp
[21:33] <apwbdjp> nelson777br, yes?
[21:34] <elgaton> Viking667: which is?
[21:34] <Viking667> I got this error:  E: The value 'natty' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[21:34] <guntbert> orzel: sorry, no idea, I only saw the last minutes
[21:34] <nelson777br> apwbdjp: I tried to su to kernoops, nobody and sync
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> Viking667  try disabling the natty resources
[21:34] <apwbdjp> nelson777br, are there actual user accounts?
[21:34] <Viking667> ahh, right. I didn't think of that. Thanks.
[21:34] <nelson777br> apwbdjp: kernoops has a password that I don't know,
[21:34] <apwbdjp> these*
[21:35] <nelson777br> apwbdjp: yes, I'm using ubuntu 11.10
[21:35] <orzel> guntbert: i was just updating, asked to see a file, and now i have to kill the update process and the file is not updated. This feels bad :-(
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> xo0t: if you install xfce4, you can use xfce and it will look and smell like Gnome2
[21:35] <newb> People, in what file I find the login manager system list to boot?
[21:35] <guntbert> orzel: just start the update process again
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> nelson777br: if you run:  sudo -i    you can then su to any username
[21:36] <guntbert> nelson777br: kernoops is not intended for login
[21:36] <nelson777br> guntbert: but it's possible to login to it ?
[21:36] <elgaton> Newb: Are you using KDE or GNOME?
[21:36] <guntbert> ActionParsnip: kernoops has /bin/false...
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> guntbert: dang
[21:36] <guntbert> nelson777br: no
[21:37] <guntbert> nelson777br: why do you want to?
[21:37] <FightOppression> Hi, since yesterday my external USB wireless adapter is not recognized anymore on Kububtu 11.10 64 bit. I don't know what I did. Anybody can help? Here is the output of the dmesg command and the lsusb: http://pastebin.com/6zxkd4Vu http://pastebin.com/VsZF7L59
[21:38] <qmr_> My audio is skipping
[21:38] <qmr_> in flash videos
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> newb: /etc/lightdm/users.conf
[21:38] <qmr_> in vlc
[21:38] <qmr_> in mplayer
[21:38] <FloodBot1> qmr_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <qmr_> wtf
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> qmr_: quit the ENTER hammering
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> qmr_: you can write long long inputs and it will not scroll the channel
[21:38] <qmr_> quit not telling me how to fix audio
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> qmr_: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[21:40] <nelson777br> let me tell you what I really want: my system is reporting different free disk space in baobab, df and gdmap. I have a 300gb disk and df reports 0 bytes of free disk space. Baobab reports that I'm only using 57gb of disk space, even when I used with sudo baobab. So I think there is a possibility of some user with system credential can be hidding some files from me. So I want to login as system to see if the results are different
[21:40] <nelson777br> also baobab and gdmap are reporting 15 gb free
[21:41] <guntbert> nelson777br: this is not windows, there is no such thing as a "system account", just use sudo
[21:41] <diatomaceous> guntbert: Uh.. root?
[21:41] <Viking667> hm. How do I change the default release, or what program do I use to change the resources?
[21:42] <nelson777br> I thought the kernel had a special credential, hasn't it ?
[21:42] <qmr_> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=33e347bed88beba42ad1c7316d2f3ed95167a8cf
[21:42] <diatomaceous> nelson777br: http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/05/how-to-login-as-root-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[21:42] <guntbert> diatomaceous: and what do you suppose would sudo give him?
[21:42] <Viking667> I've already looked at software sources in gnome-control-center, all natty sources are disabled.
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: resources inn what way?
[21:42] <diatomaceous> sudo is fine for one command at a time
[21:42] <ThinkT510> Viking667: default release? there are offspins: xubuntu kubuntu lubuntu... is that what you mean?
[21:42] <diatomaceous> but there most certainly is a system account, it's called root.. and you can become root by doing sudo su -
[21:42] <nelson777br> guntbert: I thought the kernel had a special credential, hasn't it ?
[21:43] <Viking667> ActionParsnip: I'm getting complaints from synaptic, saying that APT::Default-release is invalid
[21:43] <guntbert> diatomaceous: wrong, you can use sudo -i, if you really need it
[21:43] <Myrtti> diatomaceous: sudo su isn't a nice way of doing it
[21:43] <qmr_> ActionParsnip: if you're going to be a dear an fix this useless crap it would be great if you fixed my mic at the same time :P
[21:43] <guntbert> nelson777br: no
[21:43] <diatomaceous> isn't nice?
[21:43] <FightOppression> Anybody?
[21:43] <ThinkT510> !attitude | qmr_
[21:44] <Viking667> ActionParsnip: the error is:  E: The value 'natty' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[21:44] <Viking667> that's what I get for starting up Synaptic on oneiric.
[21:44] <annath> Is there anyway to disable everything but text or boot to a command line so I could boot to my existing install of Ubuntu at all? I can't seem to find anything that works
[21:44] <Viking667> I seem to have missed something.
[21:44] <nelson777br> any special reason for the free disk space are being reported with different value in Baobab, GDMap and bash's df  ?
[21:44] <ThinkT510> !text | annath
[21:44] <ssta> "sudo -i" and "sudo su -" are (amlost) equivalent.  The only real difference is what DISPLAY will be set to
[21:44] <annath> thanks
[21:44] <nelson777br> besides partions error I mean
[21:45] <newb> elgaton: Gnome 2.1
[21:45] <newb> elgaton: Gnome 3.2 *
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> qmr_: try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/755396/
[21:45] <guntbert> ssta: wrong, there are a lot of other shell variables set differently
[21:45] <qmr_> dammit why
[21:45] <qmr_> What's the problem?  It was working before
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  grep -R natty /etc/apt     please
[21:46] <elgaton> Newb: Then I can't help you at the moment since I use KDE/KDM... try searching in /usr/share or use Synaptic to look at the list of installed files for GDM, maybe the answer is there
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> qmr_: no idea, that is a rehashed command from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[21:46] <Viking667> all lines commented out, unless I missed one.
[21:46] <Viking667> I've got a lot of erm, stuff.
[21:46] <newb> elgaton: ok, thankyou anyway :)
[21:46] <ThinkT510> ActionParsnip: no offense but you shouldn't need a ppa to fix sound
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: it can help
[21:47] <annath> aha, it booted to text mode. I'm going to try removing any nvidia drivers and see what happens
[21:47] <ssta> guntbert: nothing that really matters
[21:47] <elgaton> newb: Not a problem :)
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: its also on the official documentation, so I use it
[21:47] <MrOpposite> Hi, what happend to the Karmic Koala repositories?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: check in software sources to make sure they all say oneiric
[21:47] <ThinkT510> !karmic | MrOpposite
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> MrOpposite: karmic is EOL
[21:47] <bosyi> hi. hi to know by idVendor and idProduct caracteristics of my bluetooth. i dont't know i have 2.0 or 3.0
[21:47] <MrOpposite> Oh
[21:47] <MrOpposite> To bad
[21:47] <Viking667> mmmm.
[21:47] <guntbert> ssta: not true in that generality, don't suggest it here please
[21:48] <MrOpposite> It was the latest release to have virtually full support for the intel GMA500 graphics
[21:48] <MrOpposite> or practically*
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> MrOpposite: karmic was the balls :(
[21:48] <nelson777br> there is any dirs not scanned by baobab when I run it with gksudo baobab ?
[21:49] <qmr_> ActionParsnip: that wants to install 259mB of stuff
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> qmr_: yikes, which packages?
[21:49] <ssta> guntbert: please explain to me what's so horrendously different, and what would break? http://paste.ubuntu.com/755403/
[21:50] <annath> okay so for future reference, purging the nvidia drivers did the trick
[21:50] <annath> thanks for all the help everyone!
[21:50] <annath> :D
[21:50] <qmr_> ActionParsnip: erhm... nevermind.  I just ran it again and now it's doing its thing.  ... must have been trying to upgrade before
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> qmr_: hehe
[21:51] <aa__> hello
[21:51] <qmr_> ActionParsnip: yea, still skipping
[21:51] <aa__> Someone can help me with enable ssh?
[21:51] <ChogyDan> anyone know where the dkms build logs are?  if they exist?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> MrOpposite: https://code.launchpad.net/~gma500/+archive/emgd-fix?field.series_filter=oneiric    seems to mention the video chip, not used it myself, could be useful