[01:52] <NedC> hello!
[01:54] <NedC> looking for some opinions. Tried to install a server distribution of Linux on an old windows box I had. can't isntall/use any packages (including gksudo). think the system is referencing the wrong partition?
[01:54] <NedC> (I can ping web sites)
[01:55] <hux_> How do I top up a vodafone mobile donge (K3770) as they don't support Linux yet
[05:27] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Ubuntu Accomplishments System Spec - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/25/ubuntu-accomplishments-system-spec/
[05:27] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Ubuntu Community Team Meeting Tomorrow - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/25/ubuntu-community-team-meeting-tomorrow/
[05:59] <Andres-kain> got 11.10! seems to work fine, i even have my desktop!
[07:52] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:53] <DJones> Morning MooDoo
[08:04] <bigcalm> Good porridge peeps :)
[08:06] <bigcalm> Wow
[08:06] <bigcalm> This is hot enough to rival a mcd's apple pie
[08:11] <JamesTait> Morning all! :)
[08:16] <AlanBell> morning
[08:17] <MooDoo> morning
[08:25] <daubers> Morning
[08:30] <oimon> i just discovered that windows servers cannot recover from a power outage because it requires a user interaction to click a box to tell it why the power went off!
[08:30] <DJones> oimon: We have the same thing at work
[08:30] <oimon> i'm staggered
[08:30] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[08:31] <DJones> Doesn't complete the boot process until you click the button for "Cleaner unplugged server, to plug in the hoover"
[08:31] <oimon> checked my list of VMs and all were showing alive, so wondered why my vmware backups didn't work
[08:31] <oimon> exactly
[08:31] <daubers> oimon: I love that box! Not one of the options for a reason is "Windows crashed", MS probably use it for their "uptime" statistics
[08:31] <oimon> luckily only 2 of my servers are running windows, otherwise, would be a very tedious life
[08:33] <MooDoo> just 1 windows server for me
[08:33]  * daubers has none \o/
[08:33] <daubers> though there is a creaky old xserve that falls over occasionally in the building still :(
[08:34] <oimon> ironically the win servers are for managing vmware linux boxes :-\
[08:34] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:35] <MooDoo> hello czajkowski
[08:35] <MooDoo> i use mine for backups and downloading :D
[08:35] <czajkowski> MooDoo: hows you ?
[08:36]  * daubers offers czajkowski a pistachio
[08:36] <MooDoo> czajkowski: very well thanks, tired as is expected, but ok
[08:36] <MooDoo> czajkowski: you ok?
[08:36] <czajkowski> yes bit sleepy woke at 2:30am
[08:36] <czajkowski> so kinda need a nap around now
[08:37] <MooDoo> czajkowski: want to come look after Rosie, she's awake at that time too :)
[08:39] <oimon> i woke up in the middle of the night yesterday, suddenly remembering that i'd turned the freezer off at 9pm so remove some ice build-up
[08:40] <MooDoo> oimon: ooops :)  much defrosted?
[08:40] <oimon> fortuantely was all fine, since the freezer was so full of food
[08:40] <oimon> 8hrs off and no issues
[08:41] <MooDoo> result
[08:41] <oimon> but ur never more awake than when you wake up suddenly thinking about something like that
[08:42] <shauno> non-maskable interupt ftw
[08:42] <oimon> caveman and sabre tooth tiger entering his cave, and oimon and his defrosting food..
[08:46]  * oimon has a day full of meetings :(
[09:54] <hoover> good morning all
[09:55] <dogmatic69> o/
[10:04] <Monsterwizard> Is there anyone here with life experience?
[10:05] <Monsterwizard> Who's been through it all, kind of thing?
[10:05] <dogmatic69> ?
[10:05] <davmor2> morning all
[10:06] <davmor2> MooDoo: you photographic hippy you
[10:06] <MooDoo> Monsterwizard: i'm 40 married with 2 kids, does that count?
[10:06] <dogmatic69> sup davmor2
[10:06] <davmor2> czajkowski: PROD!
[10:06] <Monsterwizard> Yes
[10:06] <MooDoo> davmor2: wut?
[10:06]  * czajkowski kicks davmor2
[10:06] <davmor2> MooDoo: wellll
[10:06] <Monsterwizard> my problem is, I'm afraid of failure
[10:07]  * davmor2 prods czajkowski ankle from the floor
[10:07] <MooDoo> Monsterwizard: then you're not going to get very far, we all fail from time to time
[10:07] <Monsterwizard> which has lead me to do nothing because I'm so scared to do it wrong
[10:07] <Monsterwizard> I agree :(
[10:07] <MooDoo> as long as you learn from your mistakes then you'll be fine.
[10:09] <Monsterwizard> For example, I'm doing a degree at the moment. Each time I open the text book I start shaking because I am scared I won't understand this
[10:09] <MooDoo> sounds like you need to relax and enjoy it a little more.
[10:10] <Monsterwizard> I wish I could
[10:10] <MooDoo> there are hundreds of things i don't understand, but i just tend to buckle down, concentrate and learn them, and if i can't then i ask for help......don't be scared to do that, there are always people around to help
[10:11] <MooDoo> remember even the most experienced people had to start somewhere
[10:11] <directhex> that sounds fairly extreme
[10:11] <MooDoo> what does?
 For example, I'm doing a degree at the moment. Each time I open the text book I start shaking because I am scared I won't understand this
[10:11] <MooDoo> ah yeah
[10:11] <MooDoo> to quote from the film the matrix "sounds like you need to just unplug man"
[10:12] <directhex> i personally feel uneasy about situations i can't steer. i dislike losing control to external forces
[10:12] <Monsterwizard> I know it's melodramatic but it seriously got to me now
[10:12] <MooDoo> directhex: but i bet you know how to work around them
[10:12] <bigcalm> directhex: try driving on a skid-pan
[10:12] <directhex> the key step is in realising that if you can't affect it, there is absolutely zero difference in outcome between you worrying about it, and not worrying about it
[10:12] <MooDoo> Monsterwizard: you've been at uni a couple of months [if i remember rightly] go talk to a uni councellor? if they have them
[10:13] <directhex> i.e. i could worry about rising interest rates, or not worry. i can't affect them, so "don't worry" is clearly the winner
[10:13] <Monsterwizard> Yeah I think you're right
[10:13] <MooDoo> hang on this is UNI, i though uni was a non stop party ;)
[10:13] <dogmatic69> directhex++
[10:14] <directhex> there's an old saying "don't sweat the small stuff". i think this is completely wrong. it's the *big* stuff you shouldn't sweat. the small stuff is what you can control. the big stuff happens off in some ivory tower someplace
[10:16] <Monsterwizard> I just want to learn to relax and not care
[10:17] <directhex> not caring isn't quite the goal. the goal is to go from worrying about things to dealing with things
[10:17] <bigcalm> Anti-depressants can help
[10:17] <dogmatic69> sometimes not worrying is worse, as things just pile up
[10:17] <directhex> some things in life just happen. you need to impassively work through life's randomness, or it can get to you
[10:18] <dogmatic69> a million small issues can really get you down
[10:18] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: failure is *always* an option
[10:18] <bigcalm> They help to control stress and allow me to prioritise things correctly
[10:18] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: most of the time it doesn't even matter
[10:18] <directhex> yeah, that's good advice
[10:18] <directhex> i'd steer clear of psychotropics personally. failing is a much better option
[10:18] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: you've usually got more than one shot at a thing
[10:19] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: unless you're landing a passenger jet with damaged hydraulics, then you pretty much have to nail it first time
[10:19] <directhex> lol
[10:19] <Monsterwizard> I've made myself believe that this degree is the only option for me to become a programmer and if I fail I cannot be one
[10:19] <Monsterwizard> ://
[10:19] <bigcalm> Monsterwizard: how old are you?
[10:20] <Monsterwizard> 19
[10:20] <dogmatic69> Monsterwizard: i dont have a degree and im a senior developer
[10:20] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: you don't need a degree to become a programmer
[10:20] <bigcalm> You have a lot of time ahead of you
[10:20] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: what's your degree in?
[10:20] <bigcalm> Monsterwizard: I'm a senior web dev and never made it to uni
[10:20] <Monsterwizard> COmputer Science
[10:21] <MooDoo> I don't have a degree at all
[10:21] <directhex> in most jobs, experience is more valuable than credentials. thankfully, these days, you can develop an impressive portfolio of experience without even having a job, thanks to FOSS
[10:21] <dogmatic69> Monsterwizard: you doing it at uni, or something like open uni/
[10:21] <Monsterwizard> This makes me feel better, but isn't it the case that then 'newer' generation needs a degree to be a programmer?
[10:21] <directhex> deploying django on your own website isn't any different to deploying it to some corp website
[10:21] <Monsterwizard> Yeah I'm doing CS at uni
[10:22] <bigcalm> MonsterKiller: every generation has been told the same thing
[10:22] <dogmatic69> MonsterKiller: you programmed before?
[10:22] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: no, not in the least
[10:22] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: get involved with an open-source project or two
[10:22] <bigcalm> MonsterKiller: the key really is experience. Live and breath computers from the age of 6 and you'll be just fine :)
[10:22] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: find something cool that you like playing with
[10:22] <directhex> Monsterwizard, what we want at our company is people who love code. credentials are secondary.
[10:23] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: do *not* do a Comp Sci degree, we already have enough "programmers" who spent four years using Haskell to develop a toy domain-specific language for solving Towers of Hanoi
[10:23] <Monsterwizard> lol
[10:23] <dogmatic69> :D
[10:23] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: study design instead
[10:23] <directhex> lol
[10:23] <Monsterwizard> But I won't be limited to what I did at Uni
[10:24] <gordonjcp> most open-source software sucks, because designers are expensive
[10:24] <directhex> study haberdashery, then get a job at valve making tf2 hats
[10:24] <gordonjcp> UI and UX design is crucial
[10:24] <gordonjcp> it costs a *fortune* to get a UX designer
[10:24] <bigcalm> directhex: haha, need a new hat eh?
[10:24] <Monsterwizard> So suppose I fail this degree or get a low grade
[10:24] <gordonjcp> even Canonical doesn't get it right
[10:25] <dogmatic69> MonsterKiller: rewrites of exams are cheap :P
[10:25] <Monsterwizard> but I kept contributing to open source, would I be able to get a job as a programmer?
[10:25] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: I do have a degree, but I'd earn more if I had a PSV licence
[10:25] <gordonjcp> it's never too late to drive buses
[10:25] <MooDoo> heheh
[10:25] <dogmatic69> Monsterwizard: i got a job due to my github profile, not even shown a CV
[10:26] <directhex> Monsterwizard, with a decent portfolio of FOSS work, you wouldn't even need the degree at all
[10:26]  * dogmatic69 does not have a CV per say
[10:26] <gordonjcp> dogmatic69: nice, what's your username on github?
[10:26] <dogmatic69> gordonjcp: take a guess
[10:26] <directhex> Monsterwizard, a degree says nothing about your skills as a programmer - but if people can inspect your work, they can go "whoa, this guy is good" or "man this guy sucks!" for themselves
[10:26] <Monsterwizard> How about big IT companies such as IBM and HP
[10:26] <dogmatic69> github.com/dogmatic69
[10:26] <Monsterwizard> I suppose they think it's essential
[10:26] <MooDoo> pmsl i remember doing a YTS at IBM :)
[10:26] <dogmatic69> YTS?
[10:27] <bigcalm> Youth Training Scheme
[10:27] <MooDoo> dogmatic69: i'm old.....youth training scheme
[10:27] <dogmatic69> ah
[10:27] <dogmatic69> hehe
[10:27] <gordonjcp> Monsterwizard: if I was hiring a programmer I'd want to see their work, and if they have some interesting projects on github then I'd definitely be more interested
[10:27] <davmor2> Lorry driving pays more
[10:27] <dogmatic69> all the people i interview have something on github, i would not call them in without it
[10:28] <gordonjcp> dogmatic69: you're into cakephp then?
[10:28] <bigcalm> When I applied for the job I'm in, I submitted sites I'd built along with my CV. My CV's work experience was all in manual labour...
[10:28] <dogmatic69> yep
[10:28] <dogmatic69> gordonjcp: yep
[10:28] <gordonjcp> oh, and arduino
[10:29] <bigcalm> I've found that CakePHP was the best framework to knock out a mostly working application in an afternoon
[10:29] <dogmatic69> gordonjcp: my hobby... programming arduino :P
[10:29] <directhex> Monsterwizard, the firewall for most companies is the recruiter. recruiters know nothing of any of the things being asked for, and cannot make any assessment of candidate quality. recruiters will ask for 5 years' experience on graduate jobs. recruiters will ask for 10 years' experience for a language which was created 4 years ago. recruiters will mail the guy who created RoR and ask if he has ruby experience.
[10:30] <gordonjcp> dogmatic69: why did you use a bunch of if...else instead of a switch statement for the autoranging?
[10:30] <directhex> Monsterwizard, any company with recruiters is a problem, no matter your qualifications and experience
[10:30] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: if you know the conventions you can build a working app with one cmd in terminal
[10:31] <bigcalm> I agree with directhex. You should be interviewed by somebody who will be doing the same work as you really
[10:31] <dogmatic69> gordonjcp: just bashed that together, spent maybe 10 hours on C code. coming from php its a bit of a shock to the system :/
[10:31] <gordonjcp> dogmatic69: also, why pin 13 for the backlight, and not say pin 9?
[10:31] <gordonjcp> sorry, not 9, 6
[10:32] <directhex> you want to be in an interview, and answer the "where do you want to be in 5 years" question by pointing to the senior developer and saying "i'll have his job"
[10:32] <gordonjcp> directhex: heh
[10:32] <dogmatic69> gordonjcp: there is a few updates ive not pushed yet. one of them was an abstracted 16x2 lcd lib i wrote
[10:32]  * gordonjcp finishes interviewing dogmatic69
[10:32] <dogmatic69> :D
[10:33] <bigcalm> directhex: in my case that was my boss. Which is actually where I am now really :S
[10:33]  * daubers has no degree and is more or less managing a programming team these days
[10:33] <davmor2> bigcalm: ditto-ish, I'd been driving Lorries for a living for 15 years and then had to stop, started testing stuff and it was that that got me the job
[10:33] <daubers> Only failed uni 2 and a bit year ago
[10:33] <gordonjcp> directhex: I had an interview once where one of the questions was "what kind of car would you have, and what kind of car would you like to have?"
[10:33] <gordonjcp> directhex: (at the time) well, I've got a Nissan Micra, and I'd like a slightly newer one with a five-speed gearbox
[10:33] <bigcalm> MonsterKiller: have we made you feel any better?
[10:33] <dogmatic69> nissan micra, ew
[10:34] <gordonjcp> "you wouldn't want a jag or a BMW like that?" (interviewer gestures at a car in the carpark)
[10:34] <dogmatic69> :P
[10:34] <daubers> gordonjcp: "only if you pay the fuel/tax costs"
[10:34] <gordonjcp> not really, I like my Micra. It's reliable and bits for it are cheap, and it gets about 45mpg
[10:34] <Monsterwizard> I do feel a bit better ,yes thank you
[10:34] <directhex> gordonjcp, "why would i need a car, when i've made enough to buy a luxury airship?"
[10:34] <gordonjcp> directhex: that too
[10:35] <daubers> I so wanted to buy Ark Royale when we where looking at new offices :(
[10:35] <gordonjcp> "what car would you get if you had £1 million?" was another one
[10:35] <daubers> Would have been immense parked in the canal
[10:35] <gordonjcp> I wouldn't
[10:35] <gordonjcp> I'd put new tyres and suspension spheres on the Citroen, and buy a plane
[10:37] <oimon> *error* hangcheck timer elapsed...GPU hung :(
[10:37] <gordonjcp> oimon: intel gpu?
[10:37] <NET||abuse> Hi guys, just installing a new desktop for work, fglrx doesn't seem to be wanting to install, lspci shows ATI RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450]
[10:37] <oimon> gordonjcp: yeah
[10:38] <gordonjcp> oimon: that seems to happen a lot
[10:38] <NET||abuse> error in /var/log/jockey.log     WARNING: /sys/module/fglrx_updates/drivers does not exist
[10:38] <NET||abuse> this is a fresh 11.10 install, was trying to just use the normal restricted drivers tool
[10:38] <oimon> intel driver isue it seems
[10:39] <oimon> ^ gordonjcp
[10:40] <oimon> wondering about using a newer driver, alhtough doesn't happen that often for me
[10:40] <oimon> when it does, it's bad..i lost a lot of work
[10:42] <gordonjcp> oimon: I see it in the logs on Arch
[10:42] <gordonjcp> oimon: I haven't been able to identify what causes it, and it seems to survive all the same
[10:42] <gordonjcp> possibly the WDT kicks the GPU back to life
[10:42] <oimon> gordonjcp: what version of intel driver you on?
[10:45] <davmor2> MooDoo: If you choose to sit on a chair of nails it will be a painful day dude,  go nick a comfy chair sans nails when no one is looking
[10:46] <MooDoo> davmor2: i like nails.
[10:58] <NET||abuse> hmm, seems i was choosing the fglrx (post release updates)    entry in the restricted driver manager
[10:58] <NET||abuse> got fglrx installed it seems,, but multihead display isn't working :(
[10:58] <NET||abuse> am i better off sticking with open Radeon driver?
[10:58] <NET||abuse> haven't dealt with an ATI card in quite a while
[11:02] <davmor2> NET||abuse: you might need to use the ATI catalyst software to configure multihead
[11:45] <NET||abuse> hahah, ok i've completely broken it, i purged away fglrx, now i can't get lightdm to restart
[11:45] <NET||abuse> ::)
[11:53] <NET||abuse> ok, so i restart the machine, i log in and now all i get is a blank desktop with file/edit/view/go/bookmarks/help menu, i think it's the nautilus menu,
[11:54] <NET||abuse> but not icons on the desktop, no menu on the left, super key does nothing..
[11:54] <NET||abuse> i can open nautilus and see folders.
[11:54] <NET||abuse> hehe, this is not fun
[11:59] <NET||abuse> just tried Unity 2d, same view, simple file edit etc.. menu bar
[11:59] <NET||abuse> ubuntu tries to continue working, get a notification popup.
[12:00] <NET||abuse> just i killed the rest of my setup, how do i reset the drivers?
[12:45] <gord> morning all
[12:46] <MooDoo> bit late there gord lol
[12:46] <gord> its morning here :P
[12:47] <MooDoo> where are you?
[12:48] <MooDoo> morning eh.....so US?
[12:48] <gord> yeah, preuds sprint thing
[12:49] <davmor2> gord: I get there tomorrow
[12:49] <davmor2> gord: did you go direct from Manchester by any chance?
[12:49] <gord> davmor2, yeah
[12:49] <gord> virgin atlantic
[12:50] <gord> the plane has usb ports in the seat so you can recharge stuff :)
[12:50] <davmor2> gord: that'll be the one :) Nice
[12:50] <MooDoo> gord: ah pre uds not preuds :)  no wonder i couldn't google it
[12:51] <NET||abuse> damnit,, had to re-install, unity was too messed up
[12:51] <davmor2> MooDoo: no it's a new electric car by toyota ;)
[12:51] <Laney> won't charge my laptop though :(
[12:52] <MooDoo> davmor2: ah that explains it
[12:52] <davmor2> gord: so did it have standar plugs too?
[12:53] <gord> davmor2, nah, just usb, get a lenovo X220, it has like 8 hours battery life ;)
[12:53] <davmor2> gord: yeah but the flight is like 10
[13:02] <MooDoo> are they ever going to do a uds that's not in the states again?
[13:05] <czajkowski> gord: I'll bring tea bags pg tips ?
[13:06] <MooDoo> you off over there as well czajkowski
[13:07] <Laney> MooDoo: every other one is not in the states
[13:07] <czajkowski> MooDoo: aye
[13:07] <czajkowski> gord: and if you're really good I'll bring you some jammy dodgers
[13:08]  * MooDoo really must go to at least one UDS
[13:12] <MooDoo> davmor2: when you see czajkowski at uds, give her a *prod* for me
[13:30] <livingdaylight> using libreoffice to make a pdf. So, question is indirectly related to libreoffice and even less directly ubuntu related - I hope that is forgiveable -  I would like to have an interactive feature, so that three are pictures in pdf that one can click on to get 'full' or bigger view. Can someone tell me if its possible using LibreOffice and if so how, or othrewise how?
[13:36] <sagaci> !seen Lord_Readman
[13:36] <lubotu3`> I have no seen command
[13:37] <davmor2> MooDoo: how about I make you insanely jealous by hugging czajkowski instead :P
[13:37] <czajkowski> eh
[13:37] <MooDoo> davmor2: that wouldn't make me jealous at all.....
[13:37] <czajkowski> no
[13:38] <MooDoo> davmor2: she's not that nice lol
[13:38] <davmor2> MooDoo: better still I'll sit behind her in the keynote and tie her hair to her chair :D
[13:38] <MooDoo> davmor2: that's more like it....
[13:59] <gordonjcp> okay, I'm stuck
[13:59] <gordonjcp> how do you resize windows in Unity?
[14:00] <popey> grab an edge and drag
[14:01] <gordonjcp> right, but if the bottom is off the screen?
[14:02] <gordonjcp> so far I've managed to work around it by moving it around the workspaces, clicking the workspace selector
[14:03] <gordonjcp> randomly clicking around until it eventually gets the general idea about switching workspaces, resize window, struggle with the workspace selector some more then move the resized window back into place
[14:03] <gordonjcp> but that seems a bit of a faff
[14:03] <daubers> gordonjcp: You can move the window up by holding alt + clicking anywhere in the window and dragging it up
[14:03] <gordonjcp> daubers: and alt-right-drag ought to resize it, but it pops up a context menu instead
[14:03] <davmor2> gordonjcp: so grab the title bar and move it up and then reduce it's size,  or alt+click and move the window and then alter the size, or just make it fullscreen
[14:04] <daubers> gordonjcp: I meant you can drag it up, and then grab the bottom
[14:04] <davmor2> gordonjcp: not alt+right alt+leftclick
[14:06] <gordonjcp> daubers: yeah, still more of a faff than it needs to be
[14:13] <hoover> cheers all
[14:25] <MooDoo> i see loco council nominations are coming up
[14:25] <popey> indeed they are
[14:26] <MooDoo> restanding popey ?
[14:26] <popey> no, i stepped down
[14:26] <bigcalm> Didn't we just have this?
[14:26] <popey> that was the Community Council
[14:26] <popey> (which I also stepped down from)
[14:26] <MooDoo> bigcalm: i though that, but it's different,
[14:26] <popey> and the EMEA RMB
[14:26] <MooDoo> popey: had enough, or just thought time for new blood?
[14:27] <popey> neither
[14:27] <popey> well, kinda the latter
[14:27] <MooDoo> ah ok
[14:27] <popey> i dont believe you should outstay your welcome on a board :D
[14:27] <popey> I also need to focus on other things
[14:27] <bigcalm> How long have you been on it?
[14:27] <popey> 2 years
[14:27] <bigcalm> Squatting
[14:29] <MooDoo> if people keep voting for you, you're obviously doing something right
[14:30] <MooDoo> no idea what mind ;)
[14:35] <daubers> MooDoo: He obviously pays the voters well :p
[14:35] <MooDoo> daubers: lol
[14:36] <davmor2> daubers: no he's just the only one anyone has heard of ;)
[14:36] <popey> :D
[14:36] <daubers> Or the majority of voters are elvis fans
[14:36] <MooDoo> davmor2: when you going for it?
[14:37] <davmor2> shank you fery much instantrimshot.com
[14:37] <davmor2> MooDoo: I'm too busy as it is I don't think I got time for that too :)
[14:37] <MooDoo> davmor2: aw go one, i want to make it obvious that i won't vote for you :p
[14:38] <gordonjcp> how do you get the grub menu up
[14:38] <MooDoo> hold down shift?
[14:38] <popey> shift
[14:38] <davmor2> MooDoo: When you standing so I can return the favour ;)
[14:38] <MooDoo> davmor2: i'm not an ubuntu member
[14:38] <gordonjcp> that doesn't seem to work
[14:38] <daubers> It's right shift I think
[14:39] <gordonjcp> I've held down shift all throughout the boot process, still doesn't show grub
[14:39] <gordonjcp> wtf
[14:39] <popey> it doesnt matter which shift
[14:39] <popey> grub 2 or grub legacy?
[14:39] <gordonjcp> no idea
[14:39] <popey> is it a standard install of ubuntu?
[14:39] <gordonjcp> whatever hideous misfeature it installs by default
[14:39] <popey> grub2
[14:40] <gordonjcp> nope, neither left nor right shift make a difference
[14:40] <MooDoo> davmor2: i don't think i'll ever be able to stand as i'll never be an ubuntu member
[14:43]  * daubers pondered becoming an ubuntu member.... but then did other things
[14:43] <bigcalm> !ping
[14:43] <lubotu3`> another contentless ping... sigh...
[14:43]  * bigcalm kicks Spotify
[14:43] <popey> MooDoo: correct! if you will never be a member, that removes you from being in certain positions
[14:44] <MooDoo> popey: yup, just can't ever see myself being in a position to get membership lol
[14:45] <davmor2> bigcalm: DAB radio and absolute 80's  ;)
[14:46] <bigcalm> davmor2: and I thought you were going to rick roll me
[14:46] <davmor2> lubotu3`: really needs to be call Marvin
[14:46] <lubotu3`> davmor2: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:46] <davmor2> bigcalm: no that's too easy muhahahahahaha
[14:46] <bigcalm> davmor2: I'm listening to 8bit dub ska
[14:47] <bigcalm> http://open.spotify.com/track/5y7sJWrVtjoJ1n2eg1JpOD
[14:50] <gordonjcp> so, can't stop it blanking the screen, can't make it suspend or resume, can't edit grub
[14:51] <gordonjcp> and it uses grub2 so the boot loader is effecively a "sealed unit" that can't be changed
[14:51] <gordonjcp> comedy
[14:55] <BigRedS> gordonjcp: install grub1?
[14:55] <gordonjcp> BigRedS: I booted back into Arch and stuck syslinux back in
[14:55] <BigRedS> I've overwritten grub '2' with 'grub-legacy' ina  few places
[14:55] <BigRedS> oh, or that
[14:55] <BigRedS> :)
[14:56] <gordonjcp> now I've got to the stage that nomodeset allows it to suspend, but it cannot resume
[14:56] <davmor2> gordonjcp: try waiting for the bios screen to stop and then repeatedly press the shift button
[14:56] <gordonjcp> davmor2: tried that
[14:56] <gordonjcp> so
[14:56] <gordonjcp> despite suspend/hibernate/resume being a solved problem on every other distro, Ubuntu still manages to make an arse of it
[14:56] <gordonjcp> how is it even possible to get this wrong?
[14:57] <BigRedS> I'm sure hibernate's not a solved problem on anything
[14:57] <BigRedS> it seems to be something that exists as an unnatainable goal to keep people busy
[14:58] <gordonjcp> it's fine on every other distro I've tried, on all the Intel chipset laptops and desktops I've tried
[14:58] <BigRedS> Oh. Debian on my X201 doesn't hibernate ver well
[14:58] <BigRedS> it comes out of it, but it takes about a week and a half
[15:05] <ali1234> lol syslinux
[15:07] <ali1234> later on i might install arch and then go troll in their irc channel
[15:09] <gordonjcp> ali1234: go to it and good luck, there are plenty Ubuntu trolls already so you'll need to bring something special
[15:10] <gordonjcp> ah, cool, hibernate has solved the problem
[15:10] <gordonjcp> excellent
[15:10] <gordonjcp> that's quite clever, by overwriting / it's kind of forced me to reinstall something else
[15:15] <daubers> STOP! Coffee time
[15:15] <daubers> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
[15:32] <Flashtek_> heya paul
[15:33] <zleap> hey
[15:33] <zleap> irc is easier then trying to read the facebook chat thing
[15:34] <Flashtek_> indeed it is..
[15:34] <zleap> what does fp mean ?
[15:34]  * Flashtek_ sighs
[15:35] <Flashtek_> http://www.freewayprojects.com/
[15:38] <zleap> Flashtek_, u there ?
[15:40] <Flashtek_> nope
[15:40] <Flashtek_> you ?
[15:41] <zleap> i am
[15:41] <zleap> ok will try and remember to mention you
[15:42] <zleap> u got any business cards ?
[15:45] <oimon> seen the USb typewriter? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu3g4ZBt3o0
[15:45] <Flashtek_> zleap, I have business cards, yes..
[15:46] <zleap> can i grab some next time i see you so i can help promote fp please ?
[15:46] <oimon> arduino project
[15:46] <Flashtek_> zleap, i will try to get some from Kevin..
[15:47] <zleap> ok cool
[15:47] <zleap> u going to the next lug meet in November
[15:47] <Flashtek_> unsure..
[15:47] <zleap> i think i am gonna bedown the rugby club so i will be around in Paignton not at the meet
[15:47] <Flashtek_> I will do my best to get there.. i've been damned busy recently though
[15:48] <zleap> ok np
[15:48] <zleap> well i can;t make it either i just hope people stay around
[15:48] <zleap> i think rob and roly went elsewhere last time then some else turned up later
[15:51] <Flashtek_> that's the risk you take if you move from the agreed locations..
[15:52] <zleap> we didn't
[15:52] <zleap> i just can't make it
[15:52] <zleap> they turned up and then no one else did,  (till later) so they went off to build computers or something
[15:52] <zleap> rather than sticking around for people to turn up
[15:54] <zleap> anyway back later
[15:55] <KrisDouglas> Hello, OT question, what was the free webapp for event attendance management Ubuntu used not long ago?
[15:55] <Laney> eventbrite?
[15:57] <AlanBell> free for free events
[15:58] <KrisDouglas> Spot on, thanks Laney
[15:58] <KrisDouglas> & AlanBell
[16:37] <jacobw> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b016ltm0
[16:40] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[16:40] <MartijnVdS> jacobw: cool, thanks.
[16:41] <davmor2> jacobw: it's a fantastic place if you have been I recommend it thoroughly
[16:41] <davmor2> ^ rest of the channel too
[16:43] <jacobw> i haven't yet been due to proximity
[16:43] <jacobw> however, i'm soon relocating to SE so i'll have no excuse not to visit :)
[16:46] <daubers> jacobw: We should do a group visit
[16:46] <MartijnVdS> Ubuntu-UK group visit?
[16:46] <daubers> indeedy
[16:46] <MartijnVdS> If announced in well advance... :)
[16:46] <MartijnVdS> well in*
[16:47] <indy_> hi folks!
[16:48] <MartijnVdS> daubers: "456 km, 6 hours 46 mins" (includes one ferry)
[16:48] <indy_> can someone help me out with Citrix client?
[16:48] <daubers> heh
[16:48]  * daubers vanishes to play squash
[16:49] <indy_> i need to know how to setup the SSL certificates
[16:49] <indy_> the command I used before no longer works for Firefox 7
[16:49] <jacobw> group visit sounds great
[17:01] <jacobw> i seem to have a problem with pidgin starting without any windows
[17:03] <jacobw> there's no problem after its killed and started again
[17:03] <jacobw> o/ Monsterwizard
[17:16] <jacobw> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15444405
[17:16] <jacobw> this is odd
[17:16] <MartijnVdS> Another reason to use two-factor authentication
[17:17] <jacobw> indeed
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> my isp/employer is adding support
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> (compatible with the Google authenticator app, which I was already using at home)
[17:20] <brobostigon> :)
[17:21] <jacobw> excellent
[17:22] <Venko> Anyone know of a tool/Greasemonkey script that can mass-delete Facebook wall entries? I've been using FB Purity but it only does recent activities (not old activities and not posts)
[17:23] <MartijnVdS> Venko: there's the "Delete account" button..
[17:24] <MartijnVdS> but that might be going too far ;)
[17:25] <Venko> MartijnVdS: Unfortunately it does seem so. I want to maintain it as a contact option for people.
[17:25] <Venko> I just want to purge all of this god damn stuff that's racked up over years
[17:29] <Venko> It looks like the only easy way is to delete my existing account and create a new one with a new e-mail address.
[17:30] <Venko> What a vile company
[17:30] <jacobw> the deletation process takes some time
[17:33] <Venko> There's a Firefox addon called iMacros and someone's written a script for it that will apparently automate clicking delete on each item for me
[17:34] <Venko> I'll let you guys know if it works :)
[17:49] <Venko> I couldn't get their script to work but the addon is excellent and allowed me to record a script to do it myself.
[18:04] <stevepdp> evening ubuntu-uk
[18:04] <jacobw> evening stevepdp
[18:39] <popey> evening all
[18:40] <stevepdp> hello popey
[18:40] <nymwar> hello world
[18:40] <mgdm> hi
[18:41] <nymwar> Does anyone know if anything about libpng has changed in 11.10?
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> nymwar: check /usr/share/doc/libpng12-0/changelog.Debian.gz
[18:44] <MartijnVdS> everything after "natty" is new for 11.10
[19:20] <AlanBell> evening all
[19:21] <brobostigon> evening AlanBell
[19:24] <BigRedS> g'morning!
[19:29] <christel> heya AlanBell, brobostigon, BigRedS :)
[19:29]  * brobostigon has two layer auth working, with google auth app, on his debian machine, :)
[19:29] <brobostigon> evening christel :)
[19:34] <AlanBell> o/ christel & brobostigon
[19:34] <brobostigon> o/ AlanBell
[19:44] <czajkowski> hawaii 5 0 time :D
[20:01] <AlanBell> wonder if time will win the rematch
[20:05] <brobostigon> bbc2, docu about bletchley.
[20:21]  * bigcalm tickles christel hello :)
[20:21] <christel> HEY BigRedS *snuggle*
[20:21] <christel> er, oops, bigcalm*
[20:21] <bigcalm> Awww, 3 in a snuggle?
[20:22] <bigcalm> How's it going hon?
[20:22] <christel> well.. if you don't mind..
[20:22] <christel> going well! :)
[20:22] <bigcalm> \o/
[20:23] <christel> yourself m'dear?
[20:24] <bigcalm> Working myself silly as always :)
[20:24] <bigcalm> Why do I do this?
[20:32]  * popey squeezed a Laney mention in
[20:35] <jacobw> this documentary is fascinating
[20:35] <MartijnVdS> this Bletchley Park thing makes me want to re-read Cryptonomicon :)
[20:47] <MartijnVdS> lots of good music too ;)
[20:47] <brobostigon> :)
[20:47] <brobostigon> yes.
[20:48] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: i managed to get the google auth pam module working here in debian unstable, as you talked about earlier.
[20:48]  * AlanBell has recorded if the sky+ thing did what I told it to do
[20:49] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: google auth? or OATH?
[20:49] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: google authenticator, which uses oauth, doesnt it?
[20:50] <MartijnVdS> yes
[20:50] <MartijnVdS> well oath, not oauth :)
[20:50] <brobostigon> yes.
[20:50] <brobostigon> oh.
[20:55] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: next thing, is to get it working, or something similer, on my vps. to add security.
[21:00]  * MartijnVdS liked that documentary
[21:01] <brobostigon> me too, yes.
[21:09] <Laney> popey: in what? (i love it when you squeeze me ;))
[21:13] <zleap> hello
[21:15] <jacobw> evening zleap
[21:15] <jacobw> have you ipp:// working?
[21:38] <zleap> hi jacobw
[21:39] <zleap> sorry was distracted
[21:39] <zleap> ipp not sure,
[21:40]  * zleap is off to play c&c generals
[21:40] <zleap> back later
[22:01] <popey> Laney: just blurted your name out at the end :D
[22:35] <kristian-aalborg> hi
[22:36] <kristian-aalborg> is there a "chat" variant of this chan? I have a non-computer related question to the Brits :)
[22:37] <Azelphur> OT is allowed hree
[22:37] <Azelphur> as long as it isn't crazy OT / inappropriate
[22:38] <kristian-aalborg> I'd say it's not... I'd just like to know if the current weather in London calls for a warm/rainproof jacket?
[22:38] <Azelphur> lol surely weather.com can answer that >.<
[22:40] <kristian-aalborg> Azelphur, yes... but stuff like that can be misleading
[22:40] <kristian-aalborg> damp, windy weather feels much colder
[22:40] <Azelphur> "Feels like xxC" :P
[22:40] <Azelphur> I'm quite a while away from London myself


[14:09] <guiverc_t> uwn:  sorry i got almost nothing done [today-sat] in my time,  I did try.
[14:24] <PaulW2U> guiverc_t: there's always tomorrow  :)


[00:00] <minimal> I just build a package of github main and 1 test is failing: test_get_status_systemd_failure
[00:00] <minimal> tests/unittests/cmd/test_status.py:144: AssertionError
[00:01] <minimal> >       assert details.running_status == status.RunningStatus.DONE
[00:01] <minimal> E       AssertionError: assert <RunningStatus.RUNNING: 'running'> == <RunningSta
[00:01] <minimal> tus.DONE: 'done'>
[00:13] <minimal> it obviously relates to #4864
[01:57] <catred> Running tox on tip of main I see all unit tests passing right now for me; I wonder if there's a race condition in the test?
[02:17] <minimal> @falcojr: ^^^
[02:19] <falcojr> Yeah, I saw that on a daily build failure but couldn't repro locally. Haven't had the time to dig deeper unfortunately. I should be able to get it fixed tomorrow
[02:20] <minimal> ok
[02:20] <falcojr> minimal: pastebin of a pip freeze could help
[02:20] <minimal> pip freeze?
[02:20] <falcojr> If it's related to a specific version
[02:21] <falcojr> Nm if using OS packages. If using virtualenv with python, "pip freeze" lists the versions of your dependencies
[02:21] <minimal> this is on Alpine so I'm using OS-supplied packages rather than via pip
[02:22] <falcojr> Gotcha, nevermind then
[02:23] <minimal> the last build I did was 6 days ago and the old things changed are (a) recent changes to cloud-init main and (b) OS updating pytest from 8.0.0 to 8.0.1
[02:23] <minimal> s/old/only/
[17:01] <minimal> ~falcojr: thanks for the fix. The issue makes sense as Alpine doesn't have systemd
[17:02] <falcojr> np, glad to get it fixed!


[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64255 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed on dell latitute c640" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64255
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64256 in totem (main) "5.1 sound on stereo soundcard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64256
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64257 in openoffice.org (main) "Crash when opening a .rtf file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64257
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64258 in gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (universe) "HR matroska playback very slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64258
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64259 in firefox (main) "RSS feed problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64259
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64260 in xen-3.0 (universe) "xen 3.0.3-RC1 doesn't boot in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64260
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64261 in araneida (universe) "missing package dependency on cl-split-sequence" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64261
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64262 in qt4-x11-kdecopy (universe) "libQtAssistantClient.so.1 missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64262
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64263 in gpixpod (universe) "incorrect python2.4-* dependencies" [High,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64263
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64264 in alacarte (main) "Editing the menu doesn't update correctly after changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64264
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64265 in adept (main) "Adept-installer (Add/Remove Programs) doesn't show all the program" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64265
[01:52] <gnomefreak> who is debian qa group?
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64266 in hal (main) "hald stat of nfs mounts hang up hal/prevents sleep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64266
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64267 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "doesn't work properly without 'noapic'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64267
[03:07] <bddebian> Boo
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64269 in human-icon-theme (main) "Gnome netstatus wifi bar too much padding (icons are square)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64269
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64271 in Ubuntu "dd segfaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64271
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64272 in linux-igd (universe) "installation fails, removal fails as well" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64272
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64273 in nicotine (universe) "Nicotine package should use new Nicotine+ name and icon in menu entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64273
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64274 in bash (main) "autocompletion for kaffeine does not include subtitles" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64274
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64275 in gst0.10-python (main) "post-install can't find pyversions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64275
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64276 in xorg (main) "Beryl crashes X on starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64276
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64277 in update-manager (main) "Fatal error upgrading Dapper to Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64277
[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64278 in xemacs21-packages (universe) "cc-mode broken in edgy xemacs-nomule" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64278
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64280 in Ubuntu "Boot delayed following message "Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x2"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64280
[07:35] <tepsipakki> whoa, 11 down, 2168 to go (bugs without sourcepackage)
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64281 in hotkey-setup (main) "[laptop regression]  Fn Keys in Sony Vaio SZ110 do not work in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64281
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64282 in firefox (main) "[edgy]  firefox crashes " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64282
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64283 in firefox (main) "crashed when I opened a particular page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64283
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64284 in mplayerplug-in (multiverse) "mozilla-mplayer has probelms playing back some Windows Media streams" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64284
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64285 in mythtv (multiverse) "Update to newer debian multimedia revision" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64285
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64286 in wacom-tools (main) "GNOME doesn't recognize right click with tablet pen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64286
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64287 in nautilus (main) "spatial nautilus should remember selected items" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64287
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64288 in gcc-defaults (main) "Gcc with optimization flags creates incorrect machine code." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64288
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64289 in nautilus (main) "right end + right key = next row" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64289
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64290 in acpi (main) "Special keys on Asus A8F problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64290
[09:41] <dholbach> good morning
[09:44] <gnomefreak> dholbach: good morning
[09:45] <gnomefreak> dholbach: i know its a bit early (atleast its before 4am here but who can i gub about python-gtk-1.2 in edgy?
[09:45] <dholbach> whats wrong with it?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> it doesnt install
[09:46] <gnomefreak> hobbsee = creator and debian qa = maintainer
[09:46] <dholbach> is there a bug open about it?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> let me get the bug
[09:46] <dholbach> that just means that hobbsee uploaded it
[09:46] <dholbach> assign it to motu
[09:47] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-gnome/+bug/60361
[09:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60361 in python-gnome "fails to install" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:48] <dholbach> oh
[09:48] <dholbach> that might be a python-{support,central} bug being already fixed
[09:48] <dholbach> maybe a rebuild helps
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64268 in maxdb-7.5.00 (universe) "please sync maxdb-7.5.00 <IP_ADDRESS>-5 from sid" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64268
[09:50] <gnomefreak> ok i assing it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:50] <dholbach> yeah
[09:50] <dholbach> that should be 'motu'
[09:50] <gnomefreak> ok there were  a few under motu
[09:51] <dholbach> yeah, you could say that :)
[09:52] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64291 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64291
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64292 in Ubuntu "Files appearing in home folder corexxxxx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64292
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64293 in mpd (universe) "Init: Unable to create /var/run/mpd/mpd.pid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64293
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64294 in language-selector (main) "Synthetic emboldening settings in zh_{CN,HK,SG,TW}" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64294
[10:13] <dholbach> hey seb128
[10:14] <seb128> hi dholbach
[10:14] <seb128> as quick as usual ;)
[10:14] <dholbach> ;-)
[10:15] <dholbach> slytherin is doing good work in the bluetooth team
[10:15] <dholbach> worked on some bugs, proposed doing a bluetooth test plan - to test after each new kernel or somtehing else that changed in the stack
[10:15] <dholbach> that's really cool
[10:16] <seb128> rock on!
[10:16] <seb128> excellent
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64297 in ubiquity (main) "I tried to install Ubuntu 6.06 LTS on VM Ware Player" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64297
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64295 in openoffice.org (main) "Can't paste a table inside another table in OOo Writer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64295
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64298 in usplash (main) "[edgy]  No feedback on forced root file system check" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64298
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64299 in shadow (main) "login does not accept @ (at)  and # (hash) characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64299
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64300 in hal (main) "Does not correctly identify Sandisk Sansa e270" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64300
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64301 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Unable to unlock screen when using ldap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64301
[11:02] <ajmitch> hm, ldap
[11:02] <ajmitch> hello Hobbsee
[11:03] <Hobbsee> hey ajmitch
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64303 in gnome-speech (main) "another bug or always the same" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64303
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64302 in bash (main) "bashdb ?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64302
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64304 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "ButtonReleased events for left mouse-button not being sent properly to X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64304
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64305 in gnome-panel (main) "Clock display drifts to the left" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64305
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64306 in evolution (main) "Evolution hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64306
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64308 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "ACPI works only if the video module is disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64308
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64307 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  Problems with latest upgrades and ldap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64307
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64309 in upgrade-system (universe) "when tried to do dist upgrade to edgy it failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64309
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64310 in beep-media-player (universe) "Crashes as soon as bmp-scrobbler plugin is selected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64310
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64311 in usplash (main) "No details in usplash - edgy 6.10 beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64311
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64312 in usplash (main) "usplash should be able to show bootup messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64312
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64313 in Ubuntu "APM suddenly suspends in Dapper, Edgy Beta [06.10.06] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64313
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64314 in banshee (universe) "Build-depends on "c-sharp-compiler" is wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64314
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64315 in evolution (main) "Shared calender items disapear" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64315
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64316 in evolution (main) "Appointment colors does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64316
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64317 in evolution (main) "Copying mail from imap / exchange to local mailbox looses data." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64317
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64318 in zsh (main) "zsh dumps core on tab expansion while accessing libnss-ldap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64318
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64319 in evolution (main) "Evolution 'hangs' when checking huge exchange mail." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64319
[12:50] <pschulz01> bugs, bugs, bugs
[12:50] <pschulz01> (that would be bug triage)
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64320 in Ubuntu "Clean Dapper Install inserts bad proxy line into apt.conf, breaks all forms of apt, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64320
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64321 in acpi-support (main) "Sony tx brightness keys doesn't work anymore in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64321
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64322 in mozilla-firefox (main) "Changing text size with the mouse wheel is not intuitive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64322
[01:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64323 in f-spot (main) "crashes at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64323
[01:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64324 in usplash (main) "usplash screen corrupted on old iBook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64324
[01:11] <ajmitch> not more f-spot bugs..
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64326 in beagle (main) "beagled-helper loads CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64326
[01:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64325 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror is slow when opening a directory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64325
[01:19] <pschulz01> ajmitch: How are you going with it all?
[01:20] <ajmitch> flat out
[01:20] <pschulz01> :-)
[01:20] <pschulz01> :-(
[01:20] <pschulz01> :-)
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64327 in upstart (main) "No console stdout when booting the LiveCD with "single"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64327
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64329 in gaim (main) "Gaim crash on deleting an account when it begin a connection  (edgy eft)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64329
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64330 in Ubuntu "Keyboard Layout Changes in Console " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64330
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64331 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "crashing xorg.  unstable behaviour" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64331
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64332 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Creative Live Notebook Pro 0x041e:0x4051 not supported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64332
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64333 in acpi (main) "Mouse cursor disappears after suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64333
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64334 in rt2500 (universe) "RaLink rt2500 wireless card not seeing networks in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64334
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64336 in Ubuntu "Edgy: Can't enter russian (cyrillic) letters in Java apps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64336
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64337 in evolution (main) "AddressBook doesn't save view-changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64337
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64339 in gnome-terminal (main) "Context menu has two uses for "c" key" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64339
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64340 in lopster (universe) "debian etch has got version 1.2.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64340
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64342 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Stops booting with "Error 18: selected cylinder exeeds maximum support by BIOS"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64342
[03:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64341 in at-spi (main) "bug in speech" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64341
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64343 in ggz-gtk-games (universe) "will not remove after install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64343
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64344 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "System clock loses time." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64344
[03:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64347 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Gnome Power Manager is failing to update both level of charge and un/plugged status" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64347
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64345 in debmirror (universe) "defaults are very debiany" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64345
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64346 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64346
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64348 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashes while searching for distribution to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64348
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64349 in apt (main) "apt-get/aptitude crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64349
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64350 in onboard (universe) "Segfault on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64350
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64351 in firefox (main) "Crash while inactive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64351
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64352 in zope2.8 (universe) "removal request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64352
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64353 in python2.3 (universe) "python2.3 removal requests" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64353
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64354 in ubiquity (main) "can't install edgy beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64354
[04:09] <bddebian> Boo
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64355 in alsa-utils (main) "Low volume on ICH3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64355
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64356 in alsa-utils (main) "Low volume on ICH3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64356
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64357 in firefox (main) "firefox crash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64357
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64358 in gaupol (universe) "Broken cell renderer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64358
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64359 in firefox (main) "firefox crash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64359
[04:22] <pradeep> ^ firefox always keeps crashing :/
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64361 in tcsh (main) "Word erase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64361
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64363 in uswsusp (universe) "Package new debian release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64363
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64364 in csh (universe) "History" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64364
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64365 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed for the 4th time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64365
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64366 in Ubuntu "sync requests to get rid of python2.3 build dependencies (new upstream versions)" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64366
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64367 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "Fonts are too dark in usplash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64367
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64368 in Ubuntu "sync requests to get rid of python2.3 build dependencies (no new upstream versions)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64368
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64369 in firefox (main) "drawing glitches in ff2b2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64369
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64371 in mono (main) "mono crashes while compiling f-spot from cvs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64371
[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64372 in loudmouth (universe) "Crashes when connecting to server that requires STARTTLS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64372
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64375 in xfmedia (main) "xfmedia freezes when attempting CD playback" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64375
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64376 in Ubuntu "Login screen presented repeatedly (Ubuntu Edgy as of Oct 6th)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64376
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64377 in gnome-applets (main) "Wireless interface will occasionally register as a wired LAN interface." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64377
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64378 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Cannot install Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64378
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64379 in base-installer (main) "Graphical installer not working with Matrox Parhelia cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64379
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64380 in fetchmail (main) "error running fetchmailconf for second time " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64380
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64381 in acpi-support (main) "interfaces not renamed (iftab) after resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64381
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64382 in libnotify (main) ""attach-icon" property doesn't exists" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64382
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64383 in file-roller (main) "File Roller doesn't read UDF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64383
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64384 in onboard (universe) "onboard.desktop points to icon that does not exist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64384
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64385 in ktorrent (main) "error in the french translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64385
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64389 in amarok (main) "Amarok french translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64389
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64387 in powersave (universe) "[Edgy]  powersaved and kpowersave ->issues under KDE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64387
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64388 in gdm (main) "Edgy GDM caps lock bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64388
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64390 in gdm (main) "Upgrade to Edgy results in gdm error w/ no theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64390
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64391 in katapult (main) "katapult and amarok" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64391
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64392 in geany (universe) "Crash saving file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64392
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64394 in kdebase (main) "sound preview in kde" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64394
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64395 in update-manager (main) "Update manager aborts on eclipse-platform-gcj when updating from Dapper to Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64395
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64396 in libnss-ldap (universe) "core dump for shells using ldap for passwd information" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64396
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64397 in ubiquity (main) "kubuntu instasller hangs when no internet connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64397
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64398 in cohoba (universe) "Sends wrong type to telepathy-gabble" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64398
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64399 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed when I'm streaming wma-video from www.yle.fi" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64399
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64400 in usplash (main) "Usplash doesn't show at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64400
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64401 in evolution (main) "Evolution developers take years to fix serious bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64401
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64402 in sbackup (universe) "Bugfix-only release 0.10.2 is available - please sync" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64402
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64403 in cricket (main) "Current values not available: Architecture x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi not supported yet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64403
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64404 in xmoto (universe) "Please sync xmoto 0.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian Sid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64404
[08:55] <carthik> awesome, both my dist-upgrades to edgy went rotten....
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64405 in Ubuntu "low transmit power on Broadcom BCM4318 wifi adapter - very low range" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64405
[08:56] <dholbach> carthik: what happened?
[08:58] <carthik> dholbach, the x-server isn't working, since I guess xserver-xorg-driver-* is now xserver-xorg-video-* (which i found out just now from #ubuntu+1) and usplash doesn't work, various issue with the new *-generic kernel etc....
[08:59] <dholbach> carthik: be sure to tell mvo to have that in the distupgrader (if he doesn't have that already)
[08:59] <dholbach> carthik: that stuff should get pulled in by ubnutu-desktop or something, though
[09:00] <carthik> dholbach,so I thought  - or at least there should be a few transitional packages. I will file bugs if neccessary :)
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64406 in kde-guidance (main) "guidance-power-manager: dcop problem message when starting in a terminal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64406
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64407 in totem (main) "Browsing, then quickly leaving myspace crashed the totem plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64407
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64408 in base-installer (main) "Status text on "Check CD for defects" installer page is poorly readable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64408
[09:17] <mvo> carthik: how did you upgrade? what method?
[09:18] <carthik> mvo apt, dist-upgrade
[09:20] <carthik> This was a few days back - I had let it run on two lab computers. Today I am dist-upgrading again, and the updates (not the xorg*) are downloading right now.
[09:21] <mvo> carthik: if it is a machine with X I would recommend using "update-manager  -c -d"
[09:22] <carthik> mvo, I guess I have to clean up now, though. I used apt-get on both. I'll remember what you said - Should I file a bug for the apt-get dist-upgrade not working, or is that something you already know?
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64409 in gnome-system-tools (main) "disks-admin no longer in Edgy?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64409
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64410 in kdepim (main) "Duplicate feeds created when dragging/dropping existing feeds." [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64410
[09:43] <orion2012> Is it "kosher" for non ubuntu members to attach (well formed) debdiffs to bugs instead of just patches?
[09:44] <matid> orion2012: Of course, that helps a lot
[09:44] <orion2012> matid: Should we leave the changelogs along?
[09:44] <orion2012> alone*
[09:45] <matid> orion2012: No, you should add a changelog entry and describe what you've changed there
[09:45] <orion2012> matid: ok, thank you
[09:45] <matid> orion2012: It'll be reused if it's well-written
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64411 in gdm (main) "[Edgy]  Suggestions about gdm login screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64411
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64413 in xen-3.0 (universe) "xen-utils-3.0 missing python packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64413
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64412 in Ubuntu "pt_PT instead of pt_BR" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64412
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64415 in gaim (main) "Gaim 2.0.0beta3.1 fonts are really tiny, and can't be changed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64415
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64416 in adept (main) "can not click on "ok" to agree on policies (for example Java)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64416
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64417 in evolution (main) "[Edgy]  Evolution no longer asks me for opening the keyring" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64417
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64418 in debian-installer (main) "Canadian keyboard defaulted for en_CA locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64418
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64419 in cups-pdf (universe) "Wrong file permissions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64419
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64420 in nautilus (main) "Freeze when accessing root" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64420
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64421 in Ubuntu "pt_PT instead of pt_BR - Help of commands" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64421
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64422 in adept (main) "adept doesn't start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64422
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64423 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "FTBFS in NFS module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64423
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64424 in gparted (main) "selector does not allow me to choose the other disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64424
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64425 in samba (main) "winbindd_privileged permission issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64425
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64426 in Ubuntu "Floppy devices in KDE not mounting or showing up correctly (USB?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64426
[10:31] <dholbach> good night
[10:32] <matid> dholbach: Good night, have a great weekend
[10:32] <dholbach> you too!
[10:32] <matid> Thanks, I'll try :)
[10:37] <gnomefreak> we have no intention of backporting OO.o 2.0.4 to dapper correct?
[10:39] <tepsipakki> gnomefreak: it isn't even out yet
[10:39] <gnomefreak> when it is released i mean
[10:40] <tepsipakki> there have been 2.0.3 uploads on dapper-proposed, so maybe 2.0.4 sometime
[10:41] <gnomefreak> it fixes an issue that 2.0.2 and 2.0.3 have but i think uploading a patch for the bug report would be better than closing it because its ok on edgy
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64428 in Ubuntu "Mouse cursor gone after hibernate/resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64428
[10:41] <gnomefreak> due to the LTS
[10:41] <tepsipakki> if you know the patch, then attach it to the bug and request a fix for dapper
[10:42] <gnomefreak> i dont know of one for it if i did i would but someone closed it because a dapper bug was fixed in edgy and my thought is dapper is lTS so closing a bug like that isnt gonna help people
[10:43] <gnomefreak> sorry if im not making sense its been a long day
[10:44] <tepsipakki> well by requesting a fix for it in dapper leaves it open. which bug?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> oh i dont remember ill look for it give me a few i have to tend to the dog real fast
[10:45] <tepsipakki> I've had 5-6h nights this week, so a weekend is most welcome ;)
[10:45] <tepsipakki> ajmitch: woo, libpam-krb5 2.4! :) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/pam-krb5/news.html
[10:46] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/60981
[10:47] <Ubugtu> OpenOffice.org bug 60981 in l10n "[DE] : Wrong description in Germanophon help for "Zuschneiden"" [Defect,Closed: fixed]
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ok brb tending to dog now
[10:47] <gnomefreak> thats not right
[10:47] <gnomefreak> bug 60981
[10:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60981 in openoffice.org "Openoffice on x86 crashes when "Finish" clicked in Wizard" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60981
[10:47] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm that was weird anyway its this one ^^
[10:48] <gnomefreak> brb
[10:48] <tepsipakki> hah :)
[10:49] <ajmitch> tepsipakki: yay
[10:49] <tepsipakki> ajmitch: it's not in debian yet, though
[10:49] <ajmitch> I know
[10:49] <ajmitch> and it says unreleased
[10:50] <tepsipakki> hmm, here it says pam-krb5 2.4 (2006-10-05) :)
[10:50] <ajmitch> hm
[10:50] <ajmitch> caching..
[10:50] <tepsipakki> I just refreshed the window
[10:53] <gnomefreak> k
[10:54] <tepsipakki> gnomefreak: are you sure that bug is also in dapper and not 2.0.4rc-material?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> tepsipakki: it was filied against OO.o 2.0.2 dapper was only version that had that version of OO.o
[10:55] <gnomefreak> 2.0.4rc we cant get to reproduce it
[10:55] <tepsipakki> "This is on Edgy, with openoffice.org 2.0.3-4ubuntu2"
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ack
[10:56] <tepsipakki> I don't have a dapper at hand, so can't test
[10:56] <gnomefreak> damn OO.o bugs sorry ill remoark it
[10:56] <gnomefreak> i have too many damn OO.o bugs
[10:56] <tepsipakki> hehe
[10:57] <tepsipakki> you've been too busy at triaging ;)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> very
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64429 in xfce4-fsguard-plugin (main) "xfce4-fsguard-plugin crashes when added to panel and then left-clicked" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64429
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64430 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Panic during suspend/hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64430
[11:16] <gnomefreak> will apport log freezes or just crashes?
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64431 in mesa (main) "audio output of SigmaTel* STAC9271 is too silent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64431
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64432 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64432
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64433 in Ubuntu "Use correct SATA driver for (some) MacPros" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64433
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64434 in gaim (main) "Gaim while connecting on disconnecting Dial-up Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64434
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64435 in human-icon-theme (main) "SVG emblems too large, requires a "Vacuum Defs" from Inkscape" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64435
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64437 in mediawiki (universe) "depency: requires php4, won't go with php5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64437
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64438 in amarok (main) "Mistake in amarok string" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64438
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64439 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "hibernate is unreliable on on Lenovo 3000 N100" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64439
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64440 in ekiga (main) "Mistakes in ekiga strings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64440
[12:02] <matid> Good night, BugSquad! :)