[00:00] <kadiro> oh yes omg my fault
[00:00] <kadiro> i'm thinking sleep count for miliseconds
[00:00] <FrankFromHR> locate
[00:06] <kadiro> good night every body
[00:06] <Johnny_Linux> sleep 10.000
[00:06] <kadiro> loll Johnny_Linux th's :)
[00:06] <Johnny_Linux> nn
[00:07] <daftykins> tgm4883: but then he'll be back :(
[00:07] <daftykins> ;)
[00:14] <OneM_Industries> How do I set up raid 1 in ubuntu 14.04?
[00:15] <Bashing-om> !raid OneM_Industries
[00:16] <Bashing-om> raid | OneM_Industries
[00:17] <Bashing-om> !raid | OneM_Industries
[00:17] <OneM_Industries> Hm, this looks fun.
[00:18] <OneM_Industries> How hard do you think this will be? Could a beginner do it?
[00:18] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: bad idea :)
[00:18] <daftykins> especially if you intend to have the OS installed to the RAID volume
[00:19] <checkItOut> surgy sleep 30s
[00:19] <daftykins> i would say no no no no no
[00:19] <OneM_Industries> Bother.
[00:19] <OneM_Industries> Ok, I will just use this as a backup drive.
[00:21] <tgm4883> checkItOut: I think you're a bit behind
[00:22] <OneM_Industries> Oooh...I hate working on running boxes...
[00:22] <OneM_Industries> Especially when they are mine...
[00:25] <cliluw> How do I use "kill" to kill a bash job that I see in "jobs"?
[00:26] <surgy> yo
[00:27] <tgm4883> surgy: !
[00:27] <surgy> tgm4883, still didnt work even with delay
[00:27] <tgm4883> cliluw: kill <PID>
[00:27] <surgy> Unable to connect to X server
[00:27] <surgy> Unable to connect to X server
[00:27] <surgy> Unable to connect to X server
[00:27] <tgm4883> surgy: did you sleep for 30 seconds or 3000 seconds
[00:27] <surgy> tgm4883, but if i run the script from the terminal it works...
[00:27] <daftykins> surgy: please don't paste here in future.
[00:28] <teward> how can i refresh the ssh-agent and get it to recognize my ssh key and cache passcodes/etc
[00:28] <jamesd> cliluw: jobs -l   # get pid  then kill it
[00:28] <tgm4883> surgy: can you pastebin your script?
[00:28] <surgy> tgm4883, http://www.pasteall.org/60430
[00:28] <OneM_Industries> Odd, I cannot see the new drive.
[00:28] <OneM_Industries> I have run lsblk.
[00:28] <cliluw> jamesd: That should come in handy. Thank you.
[00:29] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: from what, a live session? "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[00:29] <tgm4883> surgy: you probably need to set display, something like "DISPLAY=:0"
[00:30] <OneM_Industries> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12066981/
[00:30] <surgy> tgm4883, i dont understand? i dont have to set a display when i run the script in a terminal
[00:30] <surgy> tgm4883, if i opened a terminal right now and ran the script it would run with 0 errors
[00:31] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: is the new one the 2TB /dev/sdc ? what do you want to do with it, mount it as backup then?
[00:31] <OneM_Industries> Yes.
[00:31] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: "sudo blkid | pastebinit"
[00:31] <surgy> tgm4883, can i make crontab actually run the script after 30 seconds? instead of running the script first or would that make a difference?
[00:31] <OneM_Industries> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12066986/
[00:31] <tgm4883> surgy: that wouldn't make a difference
[00:32] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: that doesn't look right...
[00:32] <daftykins> oh 'cause it's not partitioned
[00:32] <daftykins> <--- idiot
[00:32] <OneM_Industries> Oh....
[00:32] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: so use gparted to create an ext4 partition on it first
[00:32] <OneM_Industries> That would do it.
[00:32] <daftykins> :) we both had the same mistake
[00:33] <OneM_Industries> Thank you!
[00:33] <OneM_Industries> Also, oddly enough, this drive was cheaper at best buy than newegg.
[00:33] <OneM_Industries> By around $50.
[00:33] <reverser> wow
[00:33] <surgy> tgm4883, i dont understand why im getting these errors..... should i make the delay longer?
[00:34] <reverser> no u should not
[00:34] <tgm4883> surgy: how long does it take you to boot?
[00:34] <OneM_Industries> Gparted cannot see /dev/sdc
[00:34] <surgy> tgm4883, are we counting from grub? or from when the first "kubuntu" logo shows?
[00:34] <tgm4883> from grub
[00:34] <surgy> maybe 30 ish seconds
[00:35] <tgm4883> surgy: are you running Unity?
[00:36] <surgy> tgm4883, kde
[00:37] <surgy> tgm4883, kubuntu 14.04
[00:37] <tgm4883> surgy: how many users are on this system, just you?
[00:37] <surgy> tgm4883, just me and good ol sudo
[00:37] <boze> my sony tv has bad edid. the xorg log says DFP-1 contradicts itself. I exported an edid from a windows box and set up the lines in xorg.conf with the nvidia utility nvidia-xconfig --custom-edid, but it doesn't seem to register :/
[00:38] <OneM_Industries> Any ideas for the type of partition table I should use?
[00:38] <tgm4883> surgy: I still think you need to set DISPLAY. Do this, switch to TTY1 (ctrl+alt+F1), login and try to run the script. You can get back to graphical land by doing Ctrl+Alt+F7
[00:39] <Halfwit> boze: Try turning it off until you're into the graphical client. After that, turn the televinios on, and go into nvidia-settings (Leave it off during boot, I had this same malfunction occur)
[00:39] <Halfwit> boze: Television *
[00:40] <daftykins> boze: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why
[00:40] <boze> daftykins: thanks
[00:40] <LambdaComplex> Televinios. Sounds Italian.
[00:40] <boze> Halfwit: so, boot up with the tv off then turn it on?
[00:40] <Halfwit> It is electrically transported assorted wines, clearly.
[00:40] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: what kind of partition table do you think I should use?
[00:40] <Halfwit> boze: It can't hurt to try .
[00:41] <surgy> tgm4883, yeah i got the same error
[00:41] <tgm4883> surgy: ok, now add "export DISPLAY=:0" before the first xinput line and try again
[00:41] <surgy> tgm4883, i got the cannot conect to x server error in tty1
[00:41] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: msdos
[00:42] <daftykins> so MBR standard
[00:42] <OneM_Industries> Ok....seems pretty outdated..
[00:42] <surgy> tgm4883, is DISPLAY=:0 the correct screen ? i have two
[00:42] <LambdaComplex> OneM_Industries: Generally MBR if you're doing BIOS booting and GPT if you're doing UEFI
[00:42] <OneM_Industries> Nice nick.
[00:42] <OneM_Industries> HL1 reference?
[00:43] <Halfwit> LambdaComplex: ^
[00:43] <tgm4883> surgy: probably
[00:44] <LambdaComplex> OneM_Industries: Yep!
[00:44] <OneM_Industries> Still can't see the drive.
[00:44] <LambdaComplex> Most people guess I really like lambda calculus.
[00:45] <surgy> tgm4883, worked in tty1 gonna check in a real reboot brb
[00:46] <tats> Bashing-om, i'm back
[00:47] <Halfwit> LambdaComplex: Or Haskell.
[00:47] <OneM_Industries> Odd, I formatted the drive and put a partitioning table on it, and I still can't see it.
[00:47] <surgy> tgm4883, same error
[00:47] <Bashing-om> tats: L; here we go again then . show 'sudo apt-get install vlc ' .
[00:47] <tgm4883> dang it
[00:48] <surgy> tgm4883, worked in tty1 though
[00:48] <LambdaComplex> Halfwit: I try to make a nerdy reference and all I get is out-nerded.
[00:48] <tats> Bashing-om, here's the result of update + dist-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/S5Q4L3X4
[00:48] <tgm4883> surgy: out of curiosity, lets add the script to your startup applications in KDE, rather than cron
[00:48] <surgy> tgm4883, im gonna give it a 60 second delay along with the display thing
[00:48] <Bashing-om> tats: http://pastebin.com/S5Q4L3X4 .
[00:48] <tats> Bashing-om, install vlc yields same error as before
[00:49] <surgy> tgm4883, and if that doesnt work ill try startup applications
[00:49] <tgm4883> ok
[00:49] <Halfwit> boze: Any successes?
[00:49] <OneM_Industries> Got it!
[00:50] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: huzzah, so now just add it to /etc/fstab of course
[00:50] <OneM_Industries> Oh.
[00:50] <OneM_Industries> Fstab.d?
[00:51] <boze> Halfwit: naw :( I'm looking at the log. I see the line where it reads the xorg.conf it says Option "CustomEDID" "GPU-0.DFP-2:/etc/X11/sony_edid.txt" but there doesn't seem to be any rejection messages
[00:51] <boze> just kinda reads it and doesn't do anything with it
[00:51] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: no /etc/fstab
[00:51] <surgy> tgm4883, solved!
[00:51] <daftykins> when i types it, i means it :D
[00:51] <tgm4883> surgy: nice
[00:51] <OneM_Industries> Got it, what next?
[00:51] <surgy> tgm4883, thank you very very much!
[00:52] <surgy> tgm4883, for the record i gave it a 60 second delay. it usually takes me a few minutes to get all of my graphics programs open and chat at ref images anyways
[00:52] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: you created a mount point of /media/somethinghere and put that whole UUID entry into /etc/fstab already?
[00:53] <OneM_Industries> Uh.
[00:53] <OneM_Industries> First time doing this, so hold on.
[00:53] <daftykins> what did you mean by 'what next' then? what did you do with that file?
[00:53] <boze> There are some interesting bits about the HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges O_o
[00:54] <OneM_Industries> I opened the file, not sure what to do next.
[00:54] <boze> I like to think i'm capable at these things, but er ma gerd. this is a toughy
[00:54] <augusto> hi.  I
[00:55] <OneM_Industries> Ok, made a file in /media/, now for /etc/fstab
[00:55] <Bashing-om> tats: Not a good solution, but presently all I know to do is install the correct library and hope the system rebuilds .
[00:55] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: so you can see where your / and any other partitions get mounted? you need to cursor to the bottom of the file and add a new entry for the new disk. the beginning will read "UUID=blah" which you get from sudo blkid, then you fill out the rest. pastebinit /etc/fstab if you need a hand.
[00:55] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: folder, not file
[00:55] <OneM_Industries> Folder, I mean.
[00:55] <tats> Bashing-om, sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa=10.5.2-0ubuntu1
[00:55] <augusto> hi.  I'm trying to recover the grub bootloader. I did update-grub and after grub-install /dev/sda but doesn't work. Always I get the grub rescue bootloader
[00:56] <tats> Bashing-om, ?
[00:56] <Halfwit> boze: Is this via the HDMI port, or are you plugging in to a VGA?
[00:56] <Bashing-om> tats: Yeah. that looks like what I remember .
[00:56] <boze> Halfwit: it's HDMI
[00:56] <wileee> augusto, The sda install from a live?
[00:56]  * surgy spreads peanut butter on a squirrel
[00:57] <Halfwit> boze: Yeah. My Sony TV was older, but through either VGA or HDMI, I never did get satisfactory results.
[00:58] <augusto> wileee, I installed from a live. Now, I'm using from the /dev/gpt10
[00:58] <wileee> augusto, You install as legacy if a uefi windows model?
[00:58] <boze> Halfwit: mines older too :p I'm on windows 7 for tv purposes cause windows media center, but I they discontinued that software
[00:58] <augusto> uefi mode
[00:59] <boze> Halfwit: try'n to quit the windows habit completely
[00:59] <wileee> augusto, You don't put grub in the mbr on a uefi ubuntu install.
[00:59] <Halfwit> boze: I did so long ago. I'm now the resident tech expert to help others, though. You never really are free.
[01:00] <OneM_Industries> This look good, daftykins? UUID=51f9e54e-14d0-45b5-9128-0bb4fb6630f7 /media/william/HHDPART2  ext4
[01:00] <augusto> ok.  how can i put grub in the mbr ? -> update-grub -> grub-install /dev/sda ?
[01:00] <wileee> augusto, Hard to really tell what you have done. Start from the beginning with the install and what you've done, to the channel.
[01:00] <uno1> alguien  de  españa???
[01:01] <Halfwit> un poco
[01:01] <augusto> hehehe. I did it several times
[01:01] <tats> Bashing-om, what i don't get is that this will remove a lot of packages (including core ones like xserver-xorg) but it won't reinstall them. so should i take notes of the packages that will be removed in order to reinstall them after?
[01:01] <boze> Halfwit: do you think buying a new TV would help or is ubuntu as an HTPC a non-starter?
[01:01] <uno1> hola  Halfwit , te puedo  preguntar  algo???
[01:02] <wileee> !es | uno1
[01:02] <tgm4883> boze: lots of people use Ubuntu as a HTPC
[01:02] <boze> Halfwit: I anticipate headaches trying to use myth tv + xbmc
[01:02] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: show me the edited file in a pastebin @ http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:02] <Halfwit> boze: See, that's the thing though. XBMC through my Pi was flawless.
[01:03] <boze> Halfwit: specifically scheduled tv recording
[01:03] <Halfwit> boze: It's like you watch TheTex.
[01:03] <OneM_Industries> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12067220/
[01:03] <Halfwit> TheTek
[01:03] <uno1> gracias ,  :)   ubottu
[01:04] <boze> Halfwit: idk that one
[01:04] <Halfwit> boze: Just a YT channel.
[01:04] <Bashing-om> tats: Will be a good idea, just in case we can not get to the log files , to take notes .
[01:05] <tgm4883> boze: There is DVR software for Linux
[01:05] <boze> tgm4883: myth tv?
[01:05] <tgm4883> boze: yes
[01:05] <Halfwit> Read up.
[01:05] <boze> tgm4883:  thank you
[01:06] <boze> tgm4883: I have edid woes to resolve :(
[01:06] <tgm4883> boze: there's even a ubuntu distro for that (Mythbuntu)
[01:06] <tgm4883> boze: can you not ignore the edid and manually configure it all?
[01:07] <tats> Bashing-om, it's started. fingers crossed.
[01:07] <boze> tgm4883: I've been trying, not with much luck. I like to find the problem when I'm debugging instead of trial and error and i'm clueless here
[01:07] <boze> tgm4883: it's all greek
[01:07] <modnaR> Hi. Just a general question: pkill -fe *eggdrop* would kill all processes matching that name, correct?
[01:07] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: one sec
[01:08] <blendax> provided it's an exact match, yes
[01:08] <Halfwit> boze: With what I was saying before, there was no EDID configuring on my side. I simply open nvidia-settings, and profit.
[01:08] <augusto> join #debian
[01:08] <augusto> ops
[01:08] <augusto> hehe
[01:08] <blendax> or maybe i didn't know about using * in pkill :)
[01:09] <boze> Halfwit: maybe i should just get a new tv :P
[01:09] <blendax> i always did something like : for i in $(pgrep -f eggdrop); do kill $i; done
[01:09] <boze> i over paid though :( hard to part with it
[01:09] <modnaR> blendax: So, if in "ps x" I see something like "./eggdrop botnick.conf" and if I use pkill -fe *eggdrop* this will kill all processes matching the name *eggdrop*?
[01:09] <Halfwit> Cognitive dissonance
[01:09] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: i'd recommend changing that capital letter name and using something more conventional like this; http://paste.ubuntu.com/12067269/ - also note that ideally you tab between those values and not hit spaces like i did.
[01:09] <tats> Bashing-om, done.
[01:10] <blendax> i'm actually not sure if you can use wildcards w/ pkill..  checking the google
[01:10] <blendax> the above snippet i posted will definitely get everything with 'eggdrop' in it
[01:10] <modnaR> blendax: Cool, thank you.
[01:10] <blendax> np
[01:10] <OneM_Industries> Saved.
[01:11] <Halfwit> boze: For instance, my sony is well capable of 1080p. It isn't, however, capable of doing so via VGA.
[01:11] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: so make sure that mount point exists, "sudo mkdir /media/william/backup" then type "sudo mount -a" - it should complete without errors.
[01:12] <boze> Halfwit: I mean. I've been using this tv for years as an htpc in windows at 1080i. just no dice switching to ubuntu :(
[01:12] <daftykins> boze: you just need to actually work on it rather than go on about it in here :)
[01:13] <boze> daftykins: edid and modelines tinker tinker
[01:13] <boze> daftykins: i'll stop ranting, i've been at this for weeks though :p
[01:13] <daftykins> boze: i suspect your approach isn't quite right, or your modelines are bad. i've often heard of people taking an EDID from Windows and it failing to be useful
[01:14] <daftykins> try generating one from scratch
[01:14] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: you got a result on the above? i'd really like to dip out and get some food if so...
[01:14] <OneM_Industries> Yep, go ahead.
[01:14] <daftykins> cool, won't be long regardless
[01:15] <tats> Bashing-om, looks like it solved it? sudo apt-get install vlc --simulate: http://pastebin.com/fHGzqZUT
[01:15] <OneM_Industries> If I was keeping you from food, sorry!
[01:15] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: nah more i am keeping me from food :D once mounted check your permissions with "ls -al /media/william/ | pastebinit" and share the link here
[01:17] <OneM_Industries> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12067293/
[01:31] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok so to finish up, you need to change it so it's writeable by your user (i.e. your user can write to that path) "sudo chown -R william: /media/william/backup" (where 'william' is your username and 'backup' or 'backups' is the path you mounted it to, i can't tell from there
[01:32] <daftykins> )
[01:32] <surgy> hi
[01:32] <surgy> tgm4883, hello :)
[01:32] <OneM_Industries> Thank you so much!
[01:33] <OneM_Industries> It works!
[01:33] <surgy> tgm4883, now that kubuntu is running exactly the way i want it to I would like to make a disk image of exactly how i have everything set up. including drivers and all of my settings. :) how do i go about doing this?
[01:34] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: np :)
[01:34] <OneM_Industries> So, now to figure out how to schedule regular backups...
[01:34] <OneM_Industries> To the Google!
[01:35] <daftykins> !backup
[01:36] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:36] <Bashing-om> tats: Had to see what my dogs had treed. look'n at your http://pastebin.com/fHGzqZUT .
[01:36] <Halfwit> Bashing-om: Dinner?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> Halfwit: Not this time . What ever it was got away .
[01:39] <xxdkxx> OneM try using rsync
[01:39] <Bashing-om> tats: Hey, looks good to me .. pull the trigger and let the mayhem commence .
[01:41] <tats> Bashing-om, ok started install of vlc
[01:42] <tats> Bashing-om, i will also try to reinstall important packages that were uninstalled by our previous forced reinstall. i have made simulations to reinstall the stuff that was removed. some of them i couldn't reinstall but the crux of them should work. this simulation passes: http://pastebin.com/xi1FHncs
[01:44] <tats> Bashing-om, hurray!!! vlc is back and running! running install of http://pastebin.com/xi1FHncs
[01:45] <Bashing-om> !yay | tats
[01:46] <Bashing-om> tats: Once we are up .. turn on the PPAs ONE at a time, running 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade' before and after EACH one .
[01:47] <tats> Bashing-om, i think i *might* be more careful from now on concerning ppas...
[01:47] <tats> Bashing-om, are there some general advices (aside from "don't install ppas!!!")?
[01:49]  * {qwerty} ist away (-going offline- by ckras.com)
[01:49] <liu> qq,咋么用不了啊
[01:49] <Bashing-om> tats: Have a need, check the software repository 1st for an application, when you do install from a PPA check what is installed and look for conflicts. PPAs in and of it's self is a great thing IF you trust the source .
[01:51] <Bashing-om> tats: Might be a good thing now to look and see what the package manager considers prphaned ' sudo apt-get -s autoremove ' .
[01:51] <Bashing-om> orphaned *
[01:51] <tats> Bashing-om, good. it's still installing. i'll autoremove after.
[01:52] <Bashing-om> tats: Yeah, await that 'til we are sure the system is stable .
[01:52] <tats> Bashing-om, thanks a lot for your help by the way, i would never have done it without you :) and in the process learned a few things about the package system
[01:52] <tats> Bashing-om++
[01:52] <Ben64> autoremove can remove things you want though
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Ben64: tats ^^ yeah .. why it is the simulate, look before we pull that trigger .
[01:55] <tats> Bashing-om, ok reinstalling all those things will take time though, still waiting for it to finish. i will simulate autoremove then.
[01:55] <Bashing-om> tats: You can learn a lot about the system getting familiar with dpkg : https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites .
[01:56] <shovel_b1ss> how do i pirate games on linux
[01:56] <Ben64> shovel_b1ss: thats not allowed on this channel or this network
[01:56] <wileee> !pirate
[01:56] <Bashing-om> tats: After the current installs complete . Before else need to make sure the system is stable .
[02:01]  * {qwerty} ist away (-going offline- by ckras.com)
[02:03]  * {qwerty} ist away (-going offline- by ckras.com)
[02:04] <daftykins> {qwerty}: could you disable that away script in this channel please?
[02:15] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone.  question:  i recently installed ubuntu lts 14.04 on my laptop.  i was following some guide on 10 things you should do after installing ubuntu 14.04; and somehow my gnome-terminal got set at version 3.10.2... i'm pretty sure that this was not the version that came with 14.04; because i can't seem to set the background image of the terminal to something.  how do i get back the original gnome-terminal?
[02:16] <daftykins> !info gnome-terminal trusty
[02:16] <arooni-mobile> so my gnome-terminal is behind the times
[02:16] <daftykins> no ahead...
[02:16] <daftykins> 3.10 > 3.6
[02:16] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: "apt-cache policy gnome-terminal | pastebinit"
[02:17] <popey> arooni-mobile: sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal=3.6.2-0ubuntu1
[02:17] <popey> that'll force the version, but you'll get a newer next time you update if you have a ppa enabled (which daftykins' command will tell us)
[02:17] <daftykins> a late popey!
[02:17] <daftykins> travels? :)
[02:17] <popey> indeed
[02:18] <popey> hah
[02:18] <arooni-mobile> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12067630/
[02:18] <popey> purge dem ppas!
[02:19] <arooni-mobile>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/towolf/transparent-gnome-terminal/ubuntu/ trusty/main i386 Packages  ;; thats what i should elminiate
[02:19] <arooni-mobile> i gatehr
[02:19] <arooni-mobile> * gather
[02:20] <daftykins> so essentially that random site you followed had you did some nasty things to your lovely install
[02:20] <popey> hah
[02:20] <arooni-mobile> i'm not a perfect man
[02:21] <daftykins> arooni-mobile: you probably need some fear put into you about the dangers of PPAs :)
[02:21] <arooni-mobile> so i removed the offending ppas
[02:22] <arooni-mobile> so now i just sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-terminal ?
[02:22] <daftykins> you should really have kept them on and used...
[02:22] <daftykins> !ppapurge
[02:22] <arooni-mobile> well i'm trying to take initiative
[02:23] <arooni-mobile> so i removed them via software sources
[02:23] <arooni-mobile> so should i put them back and then purge them after?
[02:23] <daftykins> should work
[02:24] <wileee> using ppa's are like underwater cave diving, you always have a return rope
[02:25] <arooni-mobile> how do i get the ppa line;  if i have a URL http://ppa.launchpad.net/towolf/transparent-gnome-terminal/ubuntu/
[02:26] <daftykins> how did it have you add that one?
[02:26] <arooni-mobile> i guess i have to walk my steps back on this one
[02:26] <arooni-mobile> followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/605986/how-can-i-upgrade-gnome-terminal-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[02:26] <arooni-mobile> will now follow again so i can undo
[02:27] <daftykins> sounds good
[02:27] <arooni-mobile> if this is how gnome-temrinal progresses in the future, count me out;  i liked the background image feature
[02:27] <raytion> what are u talking about
[02:28] <daftykins> raytion: this is a support channel, for asking ubuntu support questions.
[02:29] <daftykins> either ask a question of your own, or chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <arooni-mobile> where do a list of ppas get written to ?  /etc/apt/sources.list doesnt seem to have all of them?
[02:32] <Ben64> inside sources.list.d/
[02:33] <raytion> other Folder
[02:33] <daftykins> though the ones in ^ are likely the ones you could remove with ppapurge
[02:33] <Bashing-om> arooni-mobile: A quicky ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[02:33] <arooni-mobile> oh suck;  the gnome-3-staging thing looks nasty to remove now
[02:35] <raytion> 1652~ so many people here.
[02:37] <arooni-mobile> drats : PPA to be removed: gnome3-team gnome3-staging / Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: gnome3-team gnome3-staging
[02:38] <arooni-mobile> so does that me i fubared my ubuntu install?
[02:39] <wileee> arooni-mobile, That ppa is a de upgrade of the gnome shell
[02:39] <arooni-mobile> i failed at life
[02:39] <wileee> unstable at that I believe
[02:40] <arooni-mobile> i didnt realize ppas were so nasty
[02:41] <arooni-mobile> i enabled it in software sources; ran a sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <arooni-mobile> and that doesnt seem to work
[02:42] <wileee> arooni-mobile, You have to know how to fix the issues they may make, none are really supported here, your on your own installing them.
[02:42] <arooni-mobile> well i will be way more careful
[02:44] <arooni-mobile> yay fixed it!  i'll be way more careful going forward of adding random ppas
[02:44] <wileee> arooni-mobile, Many are easy to deal with, however a full desktop upgrade is not a good idea, I have 8 or 10 I use always, simple small additions I can fix.
[02:44] <daftykins> sometimes it might be the only way to get something, but you have to bear in mind all must be removed before doing upgrades, for example
[02:44] <Bashing-om> arooni-mobile: Look on the bright side, breaking the system, you learn the system putting the pieces back together .
[02:44] <arooni-mobile> how is version 3.10 > 3.6?  i would think that 3.6 > 3.10
[02:45] <daftykins> ten is greater than six
[02:45] <arooni-mobile> ahhh
[02:45] <arooni-mobile> i thought it was version 3.1.0
[02:45] <wileee> darn algebra
[02:45] <daftykins> i tripped up on that kinda thing just the other day, it can be confusing
[02:45] <daftykins> well there'd be a period there . if it were :)
[02:46] <arooni-mobile> well thats confusing.  i think it should go 3.6,3.7,3.8,<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:46] <arooni-mobile> not a 3.10
[02:46] <daftykins> welcome to FOSS
[02:46] <arooni-mobile> well i have no idea why they ripped out the desktop background feature in gnome-terminal i liked it
[02:47] <arooni-mobile> i mean you can select an image for the background of your terminal.  i like having an image of stars from the Hubble telescope
[02:47] <arooni-mobile> seems like a regression to me
[02:47] <raytion> black is good
[02:47] <arooni-mobile> wouldnt you rather see stars?
[02:47] <arooni-mobile> if youre using the terminal all day
[02:47] <daftykins> that's more a chat topic from both of you really - #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:48] <arooni-mobile> k.  back to work; thanks folks
[02:48] <raytion> desktop background is stars
[02:49] <daftykins> raytion: either ask a support question or move on please.
[02:56] <arkore> can someone help me upgrade ubuntu 13.10?  apt-get update is throwing a ton of 404s for saucy security updates and backports repositories
[02:56] <Flannel> arkore: That's because 13.10 is EOL, so the repositories have been archived and moved.  Here's a link that'll tell you what you need to do to upgrade
[02:56] <Flannel> !eol | arkore
[02:56] <tats> Bashing-om, ok the install has completed.
[02:57] <raytion> change the sources.list
[02:57] <raytion> ?
[02:57] <tats> Bashing-om, what to do to keep safe before the autoremove?
[03:00] <stevecam> hey, can anyone tell me how well vt-D support is working on the most recent version of ubuntu?
[03:03] <Bashing-om> tats: If it were me, I would p;ay with the system insure all my devices work and all my aps function . Then reboot and repeat that all works . Once back up get redirect the output of autoremove -s to a file .. inspect the file to see what it will remove .
[03:03] <Bashing-om> play*
[03:05] <arkore> thx Flannel.
[03:05] <arkore> i've chosen to not upgrade, and do fresh install instead.  but, i dont know what safest way to do it without screwing up my dual boot setup.
[03:06] <wileee> arkore, What is the other install?
[03:06] <arkore> windows
[03:07] <wileee> arkore, Windows what and is it a UEFI?
[03:08] <arkore> windows 7 x64, and i dont think its UEFI.  its grub menu?
[03:08] <wileee> arkore, Can you pastebin sudo parted -l
[03:09] <owenharlow> join
[03:09] <owenharlow> hey guys
[03:09] <owenharlow> sup
[03:09] <daftykins> !ot
[03:09] <daftykins> owenharlow: hi, please see above ^
[03:09] <owenharlow> Hi
[03:09] <arkore> wileee, http://pastebin.com/JY09wj0m
[03:09] <artemmikheev> join
[03:09] <tats> Bashing-om, will do.
[03:10] <artemmikheev> hi
[03:10] <owenharlow> sup artem
[03:10] <artemmikheev> bruh
[03:10] <artemmikheev> sup feg
[03:10] <arooni-mobile> has anyone got radiotray working on ubuntu 14.04?  keep running into: lxml.etree.XMLSyntaxError: Start tag expected, '<' not found, line 1, column 1 ... when trying to install it;  i tried from the official reps and ppas
[03:11] <wileee> arkore, You can just boot the live and choose the something else option 'manual install' and use the partition you have, the ext 4
[03:12] <arkore> wileee, i see.  ok, thx.  :)
[03:12] <wileee> arkore, mount is /
[03:13] <wileee> arkore, I believe some just install over it, to save some settings, others here should confirm if this is wise, or a remake, of that partition in the gui is better
[03:13] <tats> Bashing-om, strangely enough thumbnails have disappeared from the dashboard for one thing
[03:15] <Bashing-om> tats: 'sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' package manager in a happy state ?
[03:16] <tats> Bashing-om, looks like it. it just says "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required" with a list of packages
[03:17] <Bashing-om> tats: K; I guess, bite on the bullet .. and reboot .
[03:17] <tats> Bashing-om, shutdown -r now
[03:20] <tats> Bashing-om, everything looks fine
[03:22] <Bashing-om> tats: K' sudo apt-get -s autoremove > ~/checkit ' . See what all will be removed .
[03:23] <tats> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/wwpV6Bby
[03:24] <Pinkamena_D> Looking to use an egpu, but support topics seem scarce, so I am guessing not much has been developed (understandably). Does anyoneknow a good location to kind of understand the way xorg works? I am a programmer but new to some X concepts.
[03:24] <daftykins> "egpu" ?
[03:25] <Bashing-om> tats: I see nothing that scares me . But looks like you will have to rebuild your development environment .
[03:25] <Pinkamena_D> graphics card on the peicx1 bus on a laptop.
[03:25] <tats> Bashing-om, that, i can deal with...
[03:25] <Bashing-om> tats: Pull the trigger .
[03:27] <Pinkamena_D> Currently, drivers are not the issue. I can always see the cards on lspci no matter the manufacturer. However the vard is not used.
[03:27] <Pinkamena_D> card*
[03:27] <daftykins> oh you mean an external card
[03:27] <Pinkamena_D> yes
[03:28] <daftykins> i think real world implementations of that are still very thin on the ground
[03:28] <daftykins> there was a Sony laptop a couple of years back with a proprietary (shock - Sony) interface, but essentially thunderbolt i think
[03:29] <Pinkamena_D> I think it should be possible to switch between cards. I can get one card working by installing drivers but this messes up the build in one.
[03:29] <Pinkamena_D> I just need to script something.
[03:29] <Pinkamena_D> usually I am pointed to manual modifications of xorg.conf
[03:30] <daftykins> i would think all you need to do is... yeah enter both PCI bus IDs and not use one
[03:31] <Pinkamena_D> I am just a noob at it, so I mess aroung adding stuff and usually just crash the desktop, which Is why I was looking for a good education example.
[03:31] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox. After accessing it via ssh with Putty I cannot login to its GUI anymore. After typing my user name . I enter my passwords, it clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA!
[03:32] <tats> Bashing-om, all good
[03:32] <daftykins> did you SSH in with putty and try running something like 'startx' ? :)
[03:32] <tats> thanks again Bashing-om
[03:32] <nimbiotics> yes
[03:32] <daftykins> hehe, nailed it
[03:32] <nimbiotics> hehehe
[03:32] <nimbiotics> any way to fix this
[03:32] <daftykins> nimbiotics: SSH in and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" - if there's anything in your home dir that's sensitive, edit it before sharing the link
[03:33] <Bashing-om> tats: Outstanding. We do good work .
[03:34] <nimbiotics> daftykins: working on it
[03:35] <tats> Bashing-om :)
[03:36] <nimbiotics> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12068312/
[03:37] <daftykins> nimbiotics: yep some stuff is owned by root now, as your user (so username@hostname in PuTTY there) run "sudo chown -R nimbiotics: /home/nimbiotics/"
[03:37] <daftykins> now login should work
[03:37] <Bashing-om> tats: :)) yeah, going to go smoke on that good job completed, and call it a night .
[03:37] <nimbiotics> daftykins: thanks
[03:38] <daftykins> np
[03:38] <daftykins> nimbiotics: also as you learnt the hard way, you can't launch GUI programs from say, a Windows host - unless you use something like cygwin or Xming
[03:39] <nimbiotics> daftykins: understood, thank you very  uch'
[03:39] <daftykins> :)
[03:40] <tats> Bashing-om, gonna drink to that. cheers.
[03:40] <Pinkamena_D> I am sad that I missed whatever this epic exchange was that you two had.
[03:40] <daftykins> you can always scroll up
[03:40] <Pinkamena_D> I joined like 15 mins ago.
[03:40] <Pinkamena_D> =P
[03:40] <daftykins> oh you mean the other two
[03:42] <tsimonq2> Hey, I was doing some research and I came across this Wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs. The release notes links are off, as 14.10 is now unsupported. I just want to continue with my research and I had my IRC client up, so I just wanted to tell someone else so they can fix it. Have a nice day! :)
[03:42] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: thank you. Thanks to your help, I know have a full backup of all my data in progress.
[03:43] <daftykins> yay \o/
[03:43] <OneM_Industries> And it is also acting as a disk exerciser.
[03:43] <somsip> !cookie | daftykins
[03:43] <OneM_Industries> Now if a drive fails, I will (hopefully) not loose anything.
[03:43] <daftykins> all these cookies are gonna get me fat
[03:43] <OneM_Industries> I even have auto backup set for every night.
[03:44] <daftykins> remember a backup is only a backup if you test it and it works :D
[03:44] <OneM_Industries> Yep.
[03:44] <OneM_Industries> I remember the 3 backup commandments.
[03:44] <nimbiotics> daftykins: I could login, but I get some errors and Unity does not seem to be working properly. Any way to fix this?
[03:45] <daftykins> nimbiotics: i can't see the errors from here
[03:45] <daftykins> tsimonq2: it's a wiki page so you could edit yourself too :)
[03:45] <OneM_Industries> #1: users lie when they say they have a backup.
[03:45] <OneM_Industries> #2: backup to at least two locations.
[03:45] <OneM_Industries> #3: Test those backups.
[03:45] <maxlee> what is even
[03:46] <tsimonq2> daftykins: I am too lazy right now :P it is 10:45PM and I just want to read...poor excuse but I just wanted to delegate :P
[03:46] <daftykins> we mostly get help seekers after the event ;)
[03:46] <OneM_Industries> Yep.
[03:46] <maxlee> what is going on
[03:46] <cfhowlett> and they want instant answers - HAH
[03:46] <maxlee> someone told me freenode is exploding
[03:46] <nimbiotics> daftykins: how can I see the messages?
[03:46] <cfhowlett> maxlee, this is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu questions
[03:47] <Pinkamena_D> lol
[03:47] <daftykins> nimbiotics: maybe log out and back in
[03:47] <maxlee> sorry
[03:47] <maxlee> wrong channel
[03:55] <jmadero> anyone use document viewer (pdf viewer)?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> jmadero, state the issue
[03:55] <jmadero> I get permission denied errors when I try to create a folder within the document viewer save as dialog
[03:56] <jmadero> I definitely have permissions - I can create folders no problem within nemo, nautilus, or even LibreOffice
[03:56] <cfhowlett> jmadero, who created the .pdf?
[03:56] <cfhowlett> you or someone else?  cause it COULD be locked.
[03:56] <jmadero> cfhowlett: I can save the pdf fine
[03:56] <jmadero> it's only when I click on the "create folder" button that I get issues
[03:57] <nimbiotics> daftykins: I did have to log in and out acouple of times, Im not getting any error messages, but Unity is not behaving properly. Yet I can use my machine. I'll try to fix those things some other time THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
[03:57] <cfhowlett> jmadero, got it.  just can't create a folder to put it in.
[03:57] <jmadero> exactly
[03:57] <cfhowlett> jmadero, don't know what to tell you other than WFM
[03:57] <jmadero> okay that's what I was hoping to get ;) just that it's my environment and not a bug
[03:57] <cfhowlett> jmadero, I'd suspect the environment.
[03:58] <jmadero> cfhowlett: weird thing is, happened for quite awhile, on several fresh installs
[03:58] <jmadero> only thing I keep is my home folder - so maybe the configuration folder....need to track it down
[03:58] <jmadero> oh - well that's interesting, I can create a folder within my home folder
[03:58] <jmadero> I just can't on my /data partition.....
[03:59] <daftykins> jmadero: ls -al /mount/point/you/can't/write/to/ | pastebinit
[03:59] <daftykins> probably not owned by you?
[04:00] <jmadero> daftykins: looks like I own it: drwxrwxr-x   8 joel joel           4096 Jun 16 22:11 Joel_Documents
[04:00] <jmadero> says I own it
[04:00] <jmadero> if I didn't own it, you'd think nemo and LibreOffice would toss out errors as well
[04:01] <jmadero> I'll be back - need to go pick up my wife
[04:06] <bov> Are there any Ubuntu focused trouble shooting guides for when the colormgr cannot detect any devices?
[04:13] <tsimonq2> It would be awesome if in the Ubuntu Fridge calendars, there was a calendar that had the Ubuntu Release Schedule put into it. Then I could get notifications from Google Calendar :P...can I make this happen or do I have to talk to someone?
[04:14] <jose> tsimonq2: I'm sorry about that, I must've missed on updating it. working on it now!
[04:14] <jose> (the word 'fridge' highlights me ;) )
[04:14] <tsimonq2> jose: For wily?
[04:14] <wileee> tsimonq2, Hmm, a change just for you when this info has a place?
[04:14] <jose> tsimonq2: yup!
[04:14] <jose> wileee: he is actually right. I'm a Fridge admin and I'm in charge of that calendar
[04:15] <jose> tsimonq2: would you please mind emailing me to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>so I don't miss it?
[04:16] <wileee> fine if you want to, just seems redundant, myself I never read it, I have maybe twice in 8 years
[04:16] <tsimonq2> jose I sent it
[04:16] <jose> tsimonq2: cool, thanks!
[04:18] <tsimonq2> wileee Well jeez, Google Calendar is a useful tool and it is not just for me, but it is for everyone else as well to enjoy. If the manager of the calendar is RIGHT HERE, then isn't it rude to say, "No, we don't need it"? http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[04:19] <tsimonq2> Just saying :P
[04:19] <wileee> thanks, needed a reason to practice eye rolling. ;)
[04:19] <jose> hehe, it's fine
[04:19] <jose> doesn't take much time so I'll tkae care of it today or tomorrow :)
[04:20] <jose> tsimonq2, wileee: hope you both have a great day!
[04:21] <tsimonq2> wileee: RUDE http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[04:21] <Maybejojo_> jose: can I get the Fridge releases emailed to me?
[04:21] <wileee> your harrasing me whom is rude
[04:22]  * cfhowlett closes the microwave door and sets the timer to "popcorn"
[04:22] <jose> Maybejojo_: unfortunately there's no way to get emailed. however, you can add the calendar to yours!
[04:22] <wileee> already in ignore, all done
[04:23] <Maybejojo_> jose: Yes thank you!
[04:23] <tsimonq2> Maybejojo_:  jose Yes you can!  It looks like the OS kills the process not-so-gracefully when you issue a shutdown from Unity
[04:25] <somsip> tac: prolly receiving a signal from the DE that it considers to be a dirty close. Check for bugs on upstream Chromium I would think
[04:26] <cfhowlett> tac, sorry, bad advice.  I brain farted and thought you meant Chrome OS
[04:26] <tac> And is there a distinction between Chrome and Chromium? Just judging by the name and icons, it makes me think it's a fork or a Ubutnu-specific (Linux-specific?) variant?
[04:27] <wileee> open source specific
[04:27] <somsip> tac: chromium is FOSS (AIUI) and chrome is google's branded fork
[04:27] <tac> Gotcha
[04:30] <LambdaComplex> tac: Although Chromium still has a ton of references to google ip addresses in its code
[04:31] <somsip> tac: solution for v39 but looks like its v44 now http://superuser.com/questions/873381/how-can-i-disable-the-chromium-didn-t-shut-down-correctly-message-when-my-brow
[04:35] <tac> This looks like it just forces Chromium to never report it having crashed.
[04:36] <tac> hmm
[04:36] <tac> I'll have to keep looking. Thanks for the help though.
[04:38] <somsip> tac: yep - unless code has changed since then it looks like it's very tight on what it considers to be a dirty close. Which makes sense, but might not be what every user wants
[04:41] <tac> It looks like one of the solutions I saw might do the trick, now that I realize the executable is named chromium-browser, not chrome
[04:41] <tac> which is to edit /etc/init/lightdm.conf
[04:41] <tac> I'm guessing that's just a place to put scripts that get run when interesting stuff happens to Unity?
[04:45] <tac> or not, gdi
[04:59] <emmanuel_erc> hello there everyone!
[04:59] <tac> sweet. I think I resolved it
[05:00] <emmanuel_erc> I am trying to do some data recovery and I am unsure if I was able to recover anything at all. Can I ask you guys some questions?
[05:00] <cfhowlett> !recovery | Emmanuel_Chanel
[05:01] <cfhowlett> emmanuel_erc, see above
[05:03] <emmanuel_erc> Oh, well I clone the affected partition onto another drive to try and restore the data.
[05:03] <emmanuel_erc> but I guess I could try that.
[05:34] <mieayam> !ubuntu
[05:37] <fcuk> Fcuku
[05:38] <Sorch> ...
[05:49] <selalun> I used to not have a life, and then I found Ubuntu.
[05:50] <Sorch> So, what does that mean?
[05:50] <wileee> #ubuntu-confessions
[05:50] <selalun> there are three aspects to it
[05:50] <selalun> first there is se la lou
[05:50] <cfhowlett> selalun, not here: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:51] <selalun> How do I secure my computer?
[05:51] <Ad1_RN> selalun: in linux operating systems you are safe ;]
[05:52] <Ad1_RN> you can configure your firewall anyway
[05:52] <cfhowlett> selalun, absolute security = no internet and NO ONE expect you ever has access to your computer
[05:53] <Ad1_RN> selalun: read about iptables ;)
[05:53] <selalun> Photons are captured around my proximity.
[05:54] <cfhowlett> selalun, that has nothing to do with this channel.  please stay on topic.
[05:54] <selalun> Does my hardware have to be secure?
[05:54] <hhh> Yup, you should have your keyboard and mouse locked tightly
[05:55] <hhh> And keep away of your computer
[05:55] <hhh> Or just stay away from this channel
[05:56] <Ad1_RN> hhh: ++
[05:56] <selalun> I'm sure there is overlap in engineering, with professions of Ubuntu programmers and things electrical, right?
[05:58] <selalun> clever increment
[05:58] <selalun> semantics
[05:58] <rodney77> hello, I'm trying to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10 on a beaglebone. it used ports.ubuntu.com but this version is at end-of-life and repos don't work anymore
[05:58] <cfhowlett> rodney77, BOTH are end of life.
[05:58] <Ad1_RN> selalun: yeah, turn off your computer, else the NSA will hack your motherboard xd
[05:58] <selalun> Too late for that
[05:59] <rodney77> cfhowlett, I know, but I'm trying to piggy back off 13.10 to get me up to 14.04
[05:59] <rodney77> my understanding is that I can't upgrade straight to 14.04
[05:59] <bazhang> take the chit chat elsewhere selalun
[05:59] <cfhowlett> rodney77, why not just install 14.04 directly?  (never used beaglebone)
[06:00] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | rodney77 this is the EOLUpgrade path
[06:00] <Ad1_RN> selalun: they are hacking by electrical wiring
[06:00] <bazhang> cut it out Ad1_RN
[06:01] <atralheaven_> I've never upgraded! I always install fresh, with a separate home partition settings of programs will be kept
[06:01] <rodney77> thanks cfhowlett. in these instructions, it says to use these repos in sources.list: old-releases.ubuntu.com rather than archive.ubuntu.com
[06:01] <cfhowlett> rodney77, that is correct.
[06:02] <atralheaven_> Hi guys, I'm looking for an IRC channel that I can ask my questions about bash scripting, do anyone know any channel?
[06:02] <Ad1_RN> atralheaven_: #bash
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !bash | atralheaven_ strangely enough ...
[06:02] <cfhowlett> #bash
[06:02] <rodney77> however, my beaglebone uses ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ [version] main universe multiverse
[06:02] <bazhang> #bash atralheaven_
[06:02] <cfhowlett> rodney77, can that not be changed??
[06:02] <atralheaven_> Thank you!
[06:02] <rodney77> well it can, cfhowlett, but I'm assuming ports is something very specific
[06:03] <rodney77> like it's ubuntu, ported to rasberry pi, or beaglebone, etc
[06:03] <rodney77> I don't know for sure, but my question is whether I can change this to old-releases without it breaking my installation
[06:03] <cfhowlett> rodney77, suggestion: backup your current /etc/apt/sources.list        edit the new list per the eoupgrade wiki and test.  if it fails, restore your backup sources.list
[06:04] <cfhowlett> rodney77, also: you should probably seek support from beaglebone community?
[06:04] <rodney77> ok thanks, cfhowlett. I guess my fear was that it would actually break my installation, but I'll give it a try
[06:04] <rodney77> thanks, I'll also ask the beaglebone community
[06:05] <atralheaven_> I have a problem with my laptop brightness control, it doesn't change anything, and brightness is a little lower than maximum, I've solved it before by adding something to grub config file, but now its broken again and I can't find that line anymore, maybe grub has been updated and it has changed. so what can I do to solve that?
[06:06] <sky__> hi
[06:06] <atralheaven_> I think it was this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" acpi_backlight=vendor
[06:07] <ubuntu> hi
[06:07] <Guest61104> hello
[06:08] <Guest61104> sup
[06:08] <sky__> hello world
[06:08] <Guest61104> hi
[06:08] <cfhowlett> Guest61104, this is ubuntu support.  your question is ???
[06:08] <wileee> atralheaven_, Did you do a release upgrade around this failure time?
[06:08] <hhh> Asl pls
[06:08] <atralheaven_> no
[06:08] <Guest61104> Fuck U HHH
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !ops | Guest61104
[06:09] <Flannel> Guest61104: Please mind your language in here, thanks.
[06:09] <wileee> one way to test a live
[06:10] <Flannel> cfhowlett: Please be a little more forgiving with new folks.  Thanks.
[06:10] <Guest61104> no
[06:10] <Guest61104> no
[06:10] <hhh> Guest61104: ure welcome.   Not the ops call.
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Flannel, OK
[06:12] <atralheaven_> the problem is that grub config file doesn't have this line anymore! it was for the past, and it worked that time
[06:12] <wileee> atralheaven_, Ah, modify it from here gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[06:12] <daftykins> atralheaven_: check the command still works by appending it to your kernel parameters for a one-time boot, hold left shift before the disk is about to read and add the parameter once.
[06:13] <daftykins> if it works, then you can edit the file as wileee says above ^
[06:13] <wileee> +1 one time boot
[06:13] <daftykins> wileee: ^5 :D
[06:13] <Sick_Lad> hi
[06:13] <wileee> better to be sure
[06:14] <atralheaven_> you mean grub command line?
[06:14] <Sick_Lad> hi
[06:14] <Sick_Lad> hi
[06:14] <Sick_Lad> hi
[06:14] <Sick_Lad> hi
[06:14] <Sick_Lad> hi
[06:14] <Sick_Lad> hi
[06:14] <daftykins> atralheaven_: not quite, the grub menu.
[06:14] <cfhowlett> Sick_Lad, greetings.  what's is your ubuntu support question
[06:15] <daftykins> Flannel: got another about to be re-enabled ^
[06:15] <daftykins> ah ty
[06:15] <atralheaven_> I will try and come back, thanks!
[06:23] <BeerLover> Hey guys, I installed python 2.7.10 from a ppa and it works.... the only thing is now idle-python2.7 is not getting installed
[06:24] <BeerLover> it gives the following error: ImportError: No module named _struct
[06:24] <BeerLover> can't install it
[06:24] <daftykins> contact your PPA maintainer.
[06:25] <atralheaven_> im back, it worked! I will add acpi_backlight=vendor to grub conf file to keep that change every time I boot
[06:25] <daftykins> atralheaven_: yay
[06:27] <BeerLover> its this ppa:  ppa:fkrull/deadsnakes
[06:28] <daftykins> yeah, PPAs aren't supported i'm afraid - so if you use one, you get support from its' maintainer now.
[06:29] <wafflejock> BeerLover: any reason you need that particular version? I have 2.7.6 with no PPA on 14.04
[06:31] <BeerLover> mostly security
[06:31] <BeerLover> have a project which needs python 2.7.9
[06:31] <BeerLover> but i upgraded it to 2.7.10
[06:32] <BeerLover> wafflejock, any remedy?
[06:33] <wafflejock> BeerLover: nope just wanted to make sure you weren't trying to hard :)
[06:33] <wafflejock> BeerLover: you'll have to reach out to the package maintainer or build from source I think
[06:33] <BeerLover> i tried building from source first
[06:33] <BeerLover> but it wasn't installing
[06:33] <BeerLover> so i used ppa
[06:33] <daftykins> so - contact the maintainer
[06:34] <wafflejock> BeerLover: you can get the build options that were used to build the latest version on Ubuntu that might be helpful so you know what flags were used, but otherwise as daftykins said
[06:34] <BeerLover> useless OS this ubuntu
[06:34] <BeerLover> still using 2.7.6
[06:34] <daftykins> what version are you using?
[06:34] <BeerLover> they should've provided the update
[06:35] <BeerLover> 14.04.2
[06:35] <daftykins> right, so that's not even up to date.
[06:35] <BeerLover> daftykins, why?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> BeerLover, eh?  current = 14.04.3   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:35] <wafflejock> BeerLover: 2.7.9 is in vivid http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/python
[06:35] <daftykins> BeerLover: typical attitude of someone not getting their way, blame the OS :)
[06:35] <wafflejock> that is a silly reaction really
[06:35] <BeerLover> sorry
[06:35] <BeerLover> i have 14.04.3
[06:35] <BeerLover> no upgrades available
[06:38] <wafflejock> BeerLover: if it's essential to have 2.7.9 you can upgrade to 15.04 but it's not an LTS release so you'll need to upgrade that till we get to 16.04 as newer versions are released (16.04 will be another LTS, 2016 April)
[06:39] <UserUser> this is a stupid question but is there anyway to remove the amazon services from ubuntu?
[06:40] <daftykins> yes, roughly a billion guides all over the internet
[06:40] <UserUser> =P
[06:40] <bazhang> !adlens
[06:40] <UserUser> any good hardening guide you could suggest?
[06:40] <bazhang> !apparmor | UserUser
[06:40] <wafflejock> UserUser: not a guide but lynis a nice tool to give you some info on what to fix
[06:41] <UserUser> and no, I have that set but still when running wireshark I see it outbound to a amazon server
[06:41] <bazhang> UserUser, check out selinux as well
[06:41] <UserUser> I kind of want to stick to ubuntu
[06:41] <daftykins> selinux is a component not a distro...
[06:41] <UserUser> sorry, im really new
[06:41] <bazhang> UserUser, selinux is used With ubuntu
[06:42] <bazhang> UserUser, apparmor and selinux are two things to get started on
[06:42] <BeerLover> wafflejock, how can i upgrade from 14.04 lts to 15.04 without loosing anything?
[06:42] <UserUser> ok, writing that down right now. anything else to read up on?
[06:43] <bazhang> UserUser, those will take a bit of time to read up on first
[06:43] <wafflejock> BeerLover: make a backup :) really though you can upgrade you just need to go into the software sources and enable upgrading to non lts... one sec I'm not using unity need to look it up
[06:44] <daftykins> UserUser: how to search for lens packages which provide search results, e.g. "apt-cache search lens" and then how to manipulate those packages to perhaps remove your paranoia with regard to playing with wireshark
[06:44] <wafflejock> BeerLover: see upgrade policy here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades
[06:44] <wafflejock> BeerLover: it should basically be in the updater in a tab that you can enable upgrading for normal releases not just LTS
[06:45] <dan2wik> I just set up a brand new server and install apache2 from apt-get and immediately got this error. I don't know how to fix it. http://apaste.info/DQo
[06:45] <daftykins> dan2wik: that's not likely, the configs ship fine out of the box. so look at line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf as it says for an error...
[06:47] <m0r0n> Hello. My laptop is having an issue where when I open from suspend, the welcome screen loads. If I log into a previous session the screen goes black. If I login to a guest session everything is fine. I'm using an nvidia card using ppa drivers and I'm in Xubuntu 14.04
[06:48] <daftykins> but only from suspend? all cold boots and logins are fine?
[06:48] <m0r0n> Yup
[06:48] <daftykins> which PPA? xorg-edgers?
[06:49] <m0r0n> One second. I'll look it up
[06:50] <dan2wik> daftykins: it looks like standard config
[06:50] <daftykins> dan2wik: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[06:50] <daftykins> see what version you're using, nvidia-###
[06:50] <dan2wik> wrong person
[06:50] <daftykins> oh yeah
[06:50] <daftykins> 8am and no sleep does that to a person
[06:51] <m0r0n> daftykins, I have both edgers and swat
[06:51] <dan2wik> daftykins: I feel like it might be an environment issue
[06:51] <daftykins> dan2wik: well your errors are pretty obvious, so either you have no experience with apache or you need to do some reading - or both :)
[06:51] <daftykins> environment? how?
[06:51] <dan2wik> it looks like the config is referencing something outside the config.
[06:51] <daftykins> m0r0n: ugh. well that's an immensely bad move in the first instance. what's your hardware? optimus laptop?
[06:52] <dan2wik> the error is gone now :\
[06:52] <m0r0n> daftykins, Quadro NVS3100M
[06:53] <daftykins> oy, so not even a standard card
[06:54] <daftykins> m0r0n: purge your drivers, purge your PPAs and get back to stock. then install one of the nvidia drivers on there, such as nvidia-346
[06:54] <daftykins> but check 'lspci' for whether this is an intel+nvidia hybrid setup
[06:55] <m0r0n> Okay I'll try. I have two laptops running so I'll let you know if I run into any hiccups
[06:55] <daftykins> i'm assuming you're on 14.04+
[06:55] <dan2wik> daftykins: turns out I was talking to apache wrong.
[06:56] <daftykins> dan2wik: how-so? you said it was the default config
[06:56] <daftykins> so you'd barely met apache!
[06:56] <x4w3> Good morning.
[06:56] <dan2wik> daftykins: I was using "sudo apache2 restart" instead of "sudo service apache2 restart"
[06:56] <daftykins> ah har
[06:58] <dan2wik> Now to start my adventures in apache2
[06:58] <daftykins> one of its' other faves is having an FQDN configured
[07:02] <atralheaven_> Is there any way to set backspace key behavior in file manager to act like windows file manager? and I think it should be set as default, I have a reason for it, when a user goes to a directory, lets say ~/Pictures and then goes to a subdirectory of it, like ~/Pictures/Wallpapers,  and then wants to come back to Pictures folder, backspace does it, and also when a user goes to completely different directory, and wants to comeback where he was before
[07:03] <idle48182> what is the difference between window managers?
[07:04] <somsip> idle48182: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers
[07:05] <UserUser> so have another question, on 12.04 I am useing system monitor and looking at my file system. It shows that I have 150gb free but only 132gb available.
[07:06] <UserUser> is there a reason why I have more free disk space vs what I can use?
[07:09] <m0r0n> daftykins, From what I can tell there's only one GPU, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069192/
[07:09] <m0r0n> How can I confirm I purged everything and I'm back to default?
[07:11] <dan2wik> UserUser: some of that free space is used for filesystem things like where files are located and their names.
[07:17] <circus> unity sucks
[07:17] <FATZOMBI> wot?
[07:17] <circus> unity desktop is so sloowww
[07:18] <FATZOMBI> works grt 4 me
[07:22] <FATZOMBI> hi
[07:22] <somsip> FATZOMBI: do you have a support question?
[07:27] <m0r0n> To " install one of the nvidia drivers on there, such as nvidia-346" does using the Additional Drivers tab in Software & Updates work?
[07:27] <daftykins> m0r0n: ideally i'd like to see an "lspci" first on a http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:27] <m0r0n> daftykins, From what I can tell there's only one GPU, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069192/
[07:28] <bazhang> m0r0n, did you ppa-purge the multiple PPA drivers for that single card
[07:28] <daftykins> m0r0n: yep looks clean, worth double checking what bazhang just asked though
[07:28] <m0r0n> bazhang, I removed them using the Software & Updates>Other Software (Remove button)
[07:29] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | m0r0n
[07:29] <daftykins> m0r0n: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[07:30] <m0r0n> daftykins, It's empty
[07:30] <daftykins> hmm, might be ok then - run a "sudo apt-get update" then "apt-cache policy nvidia-346" and ensure it's coming from the ubuntu repos
[07:33] <m0r0n> daftykins, Under additional drivers 340.76 is the latest and when I run that command using 340.76 it says it's coming from the ca.archives.ubuntu.xxxxxx
[07:33] <ObrienDave> canadian archive
[07:33] <m0r0n> Yup
[07:34] <daftykins> ok that'll do
[07:35] <m0r0n> Restarting and checking if the problem persists
[07:37] <m0r0n> Yup, still an issue
[07:37] <vinnyx> hi
[07:37] <daftykins> m0r0n: which ubuntu version again?
[07:38] <m0r0n> Xubuntu 14.04
[07:39] <m0r0n> Specifically 14.04.3 LTS
[07:39] <daftykins> hmm, odd you see no 346
[07:39] <daftykins> wonder if it's your odd card
[07:39] <daftykins> tried nouveau?
[07:39] <m0r0n> Yup. I tried all 5 options, same issue
[07:41] <m0r0n> My laptop with the same distro, NVS 5400M, is running 352.30 without a snag
[07:41] <m0r0n> The NVS 3100M is giving me problems
[07:41] <daftykins> guess it's a problem card
[07:42] <daftykins> does xfce even use lightdm o0
[07:42] <m0r0n> I believe so
[07:43] <m0r0n> Last time I used "startx" and told #Xubuntu the facepalmed and told me to use lightdm
[07:43] <daftykins> yeah, don't use startx ever :>
[07:44] <m0r0n> See the odd thing is, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/10de%3A0a6c/ , says it should be fine
[07:45] <daftykins> i don't believe in any of that
[07:47] <poutine> Thanks Obama
[07:49] <dupingping> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GNU_002fLinux.html
[07:49] <dupingping> It shows me, With linux GRUB uses 32-bit protocol. Some BIOS services like APM or EDD aren’t available with this protocol. In this case you need to use linux16
[07:49] <dupingping> why linux command does not support EDD?
[07:50] <daftykins> that'd be a good question for ##linux if it affects the kernel as a whole
[07:51] <zanzibizarre> Well if it isn't bazhang
[07:51] <zanzibizarre> Looky looky looky
[07:52] <Flannel> zanzibizarre: Please help keep this channel on-topic.  Thanks.
[07:52] <zanzibizarre> :-P
[07:54] <h80s> hi bazhang <3
[07:54] <zanzibizarre> :)
[07:57] <h80s> I just joined Ubunut, and I would like to install something. I want to surf the web and want to install firefox. How do I do that?
[07:58] <OerHeks> h80s, by not trolling :-D
[07:58] <zanzibizarre> Legit question
[07:58]  * badbodh slaps zanzibizarre h80s
[07:58] <badbodh> shoo
[07:58] <h80s> I don't get it. I don't know how to install firefox.
[07:58] <somsip> h80s: sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:58] <h80s> Do you do sudo pacman -S firefox?
[07:58] <somsip> h80s: that's for Arch.
[07:58] <OerHeks> ...
[07:58] <h80s> oh. thanks.
[07:58] <h80s> oh ok
[07:59] <zanzibizarre> Bodh, why must u hurt me
[07:59]  * badbodh slaps h82or8 with bigger trout
[07:59]  * zanzibizarre dances
[07:59] <somsip> !ops | silliness
[07:59] <ikonia> blacknred0: don't need that sort of thing please
[07:59] <somsip> ikonia: k
[07:59] <ikonia> somsip: not you
[07:59] <somsip> ikonia: I know - just ack'ing you were here
[07:59] <ikonia> ahh
[08:00] <holler_> hello, I am using docker and I did "apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get install -y python-psycopg2"
[08:00] <h80s> I did sudo apt-get install firefox, but it says says that it is already installed. How can I run it after that?
[08:00] <holler_> however it says it cant find a package candidate
[08:00] <somsip> !find psycop
[08:01] <holler_> is using apt-get clean somehow affecting my later apt-get install?
[08:01] <somsip> holler_: check the sources on the docker image maybe?
[08:02] <holler_> somsip: http://dpaste.com/0VSF91A
[08:02] <somsip> holler_: python 3.4 probably needs python3-psycopg2
[08:03] <somsip> holler_: not that it should really matter for apt-get but...
[08:03] <holler_> true
[08:05] <m0r0n> How can I search up what process turned lightdm off? I have an issue where users who are logged in (have a session) get a black screen after returning from a suspend. The login greeting page still comes up fine though
[08:06] <phpcoder> hello everybody i have a strange problem with my 15.04 ubuntu
[08:06] <zanzibizarre> phpcoder, cool name
[08:06] <daftykins> m0r0n: the greeter is still the lightdm session
[08:06] <phpcoder> sometime it lost my preferences for keyboards ....
[08:06] <phpcoder> *keyboard
[08:06] <phpcoder> i must do sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[08:06] <phpcoder> (use the default) and it works again
[08:06] <phpcoder> whY?!
[08:06] <FATZOMBI> whats the commandline for upgrading 14.04 to 14.10
[08:06] <phpcoder> zanzibizarre, :D
[08:06] <m0r0n> daftykins, Arghhhhhh. This is bugging me. It doesn't sound like a driver issue but something that Ubuntu is doing
[08:07] <zanzibizarre> phpcoders, first question from me is going to be. do you use vagrant?
[08:07] <somsip> FATZOMBI: 14.10 is no longer supported
[08:07] <daftykins> m0r0n: out of interest, create a new user - then repeat the test with it?
[08:07] <FATZOMBI> so how i am going to be upgraded to 15
[08:07] <FATZOMBI> ?
[08:08] <m0r0n> I'll try that. Also when I boot it goes to tty1 for about 2-3s then goes to tty7(with gui) not sure why
[08:08] <phpcoder> zanzibizarre, yes previously but not at the moment
[08:08] <daftykins> FATZOMBI: still do-able, but you'll have to go to 14.10 using old-releases
[08:08] <badbodh> FATZOMBI, apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:08] <phpcoder> but i still have it installed
[08:08] <somsip> FATZOMBI: upgrading from LTS to non-LTS might not be a good idea.
[08:08] <daftykins> m0r0n: just slow
[08:08] <FATZOMBI> hmm
[08:08] <h80s> so, after I mount my windows partition with sudo ntfs-3g, what is the compatibility between files since there are different line endings and what now?
[08:08] <badbodh> does 14.10 server work anymore ? if not FATZOMBI will need a fresh install
[08:09] <FATZOMBI> okay
[08:09] <FATZOMBI> ty
[08:09] <somsip> !14.10 | badbodh
[08:10] <m0r0n> daftykins, same thing
[08:10] <h80s> does cowsay come pre-installed with ubnutu?
[08:10] <daftykins> m0r0n: what about if you now switch to TTY1 then back to 7?
[08:10] <zanzibizarre> Mounting partitions, you animal you!
[08:11] <h80s> cowsay "people don't like to answer my questions"
[08:11] <zanzibizarre> That's because they're so damn complex
[08:11] <h80s> wat? lol
[08:12] <m0r0n> daftykins, no dice
[08:12] <jordie> 这里有说中文的吗？
  Thanks.
[08:16] <m0r0n> The worst part about this is the laptop with issues is my dads. I'm trying to push Linux on people, but he won't want to deal with having to log off on a laptop before a suspend
[08:16] <zanzibizarre> lol wtf
[08:16] <zanzibizarre> <3
[08:16] <cfhowlett> !ops | messi _echo profanity & trolling IP ban requested
[08:17] <daftykins> m0r0n: this is why we don't push things on others
[08:17] <daftykins> m0r0n: any BIOS updates available? that's all i've got.
[08:17] <m0r0n> ummm maybe. I'll take a look
[08:17] <Zombyrad> m0r0n, as I understand it, after waking from suspend, the screen stays blank?
[08:18] <badbodh> m0r0n, daftykins what's your story love ?
[08:18] <daftykins> badbodh: ask a support question or leave.
[08:18] <badbodh> some g-cards don't play well with suspend
[08:18] <Zombyrad> badbodh, my thoughts too
[08:18] <m0r0n> No I get the greeting, if I login to a user who has a session running the screen goes blank. However if it's a fresh session it will go in normally
[08:19] <h80s_> Can we please stop kicking people for nothing?  Thanks
[08:19] <Zombyrad> m0r0n, that's a curious one. Might be a lightdm and/or DE session bug
[08:20] <m0r0n> BIOS is up-to-date
[08:20] <badbodh> m0r0n, have you checked dmesg ?
[08:21] <badbodh> run "dmesg|pastebinit" in terminal. share link.
[08:21] <m0r0n> badbodh, not yet. What should I be looking for?
[08:21] <uh80s> what's this I hear. You guys going bananas?
[08:22] <m0r0n> Zombyrad, What's DE stand for?
[08:22] <m0r0n> What does*
[08:22] <daftykins> desktop environment
[08:22] <badbodh> m0r0n, just run the command, it will produce a pastebin link. share that link here, others will take a look
[08:22] <daftykins> i.e. xfce, KDE, unity...
[08:23] <Zombyrad> If you're running default ubuntu, it should be unity
[08:23] <m0r0n> Should I run it in TTy1 after the 'bug' occurs or will a fresh boot be fine
[08:23] <daftykins> has to be once it happened
[08:23] <daftykins> immediately
[08:24] <m0r0n> Here she is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069502/
[08:26] <daftykins> no clues to my eyes
[08:27] <m0r0n> Maybe I should install Ubuntu and see if that changes anything
[08:27] <badbodh> m0r0n, is your problem reproducible? suspend-resume fails everytime ?
[08:28] <Zombyrad> m0r0n, is the session still blanked? Could you switch to TTY1 and issue a 'killall gnome-screensaver' and see if that fixes the blank screen on tty7?
[08:28] <m0r0n> badbodh, suspend-resume-login(previously logged in)  --- 3rd step is where it fails
[08:28] <Zombyrad> Might be gnome-screensaver not clearing properly after session resume
[08:28] <m0r0n> and yes it's reproducible
[08:28] <daftykins> does xfce use gnome-screensaver o0
[08:28] <badbodh> m0r0n, so you do get a screen after resume ? that's one good news
[08:29] <Zombyrad> Ah. it's xfce, figured regular ubuntu
[08:29] <m0r0n> I get the greeting when I open my lid, enter my password, then it blanks
[08:29] <m0r0n> Zombyrad, I'll try that now
[08:29] <badbodh> i agree with zomby here. if you got any screensavers, disable/uninstall them. that'll clear the playing field a bit.
[08:29] <cfhowlett>  daftykins xfce does NOT use gnome screensaver
[08:30] <daftykins> cfhowlett: ah, that was my guess
[08:30] <daftykins> ty
[08:30] <badbodh> got xscreensavers ?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> in fact, the "default", xscreensaver, is known to conflict with lightlocker/lightdm and is recommended for deletion.
[08:30] <Zombyrad> m0r0n, are you running regular ubuntu or xubuntu? we're a bit unclear on what desktop environment you're using
 Xubuntu 14.04 <- Zombyrad
[08:31] <SpaghettiCat> Hello, dose anybody know why all Ubuntu releases have a minor version of either ".04" or ".10"?
[08:31] <daftykins> no we're not, it's above :P
[08:31] <Zombyrad> Ah, missed that
[08:31] <daftykins> SpaghettiCat: the month they release in
[08:31] <daftykins> April and October is when new things cometh - year.month = release
[08:31] <SpaghettiCat> Ah nice, so they keep a really tight schedule then
[08:31] <daftykins> yep
[08:32] <badbodh> [13:50] <daftykins> badbodh: ask a support question or leave. <~ not everyone is here to 'ask' support questions. some of us join late, it's convenient if you repeat your story in short. like what's the issue, ubuntu version and what have you tried.
[08:33] <daftykins> had a feeling the advice was pretty poor.
[08:34] <badbodh> ikonia, [14:05] * You have left channel #ubuntu (requested by ikonia (bye cholby)) ?? i don't get it.
[08:34] <Kali_Yuga> hello ubuntu guys is there a way to replace the "phonon-backend-gstreamer" with the "phonon-backend-vlc" in 14.04
[08:35] <ikonia> badbodh: typo, my fault, sorry
[08:35] <ikonia> badbodh: you got back before I managed to pm you - osrry
[08:35] <badbodh> grrr
[08:35] <ikonia> sorry
[08:35] <Kali_Yuga> cuz in some players my video is blue?
[08:35] <shingshang> anybody know if I can get a bootable ubuntu 15.04 USB image?
[08:35] <shingshang> i.e just copy files to the USB and boot 15.04 from it
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !kali | Kali_Yuga,
[08:36] <somsip> !persistent | shingshang
[08:36] <badbodh> Kali_Yuga, phonon just gives you audio.
[08:36] <daftykins> shingshang: you never copy files, you download the ISO then transfer the image to the flash drive.
[08:36] <Kali_Yuga> I have ubuntu
[08:36] <Kali_Yuga> well k ubuntu
[08:36] <daftykins> well i suppose you could copy if you're doing an EFI boot.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> kala, kali is not ubuntu and is not supported here.
[08:36] <zanzibizarre> hi
[08:36] <shingshang> daftykins, I see, so transfer the ISO image huh
[08:37] <shingshang> but that's the info what I need, thanks
[08:37] <Kali_Yuga> Kubuntu!! not Kali!
[08:37] <daftykins> shingshang: what's your host OS?
[08:37] <badbodh> Kali_Yuga, phonon just gives you audio. if you got sound issues, changing honon backend makes sense.
[08:37] <Kali_Yuga> I was reading something different???
[08:37] <shingshang> daftykins, ubuntu 14.04
[08:37] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: blue video, do you happen to use an nvidia card?
[08:37] <badbodh> your video problem is likely graphics problem.
[08:37] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: with the proprietary driver?
[08:38] <daftykins> shingshang: ok so you download the 15.04 ISO then you can use 'dd' in the terminal to throw the ISO on the drive
[08:38] <ObrienDave> or unetbootin, yumi, pendrivelinux
[08:38] <m0r0n> News! News! I have Light Locker (A screen saver type thing. Locks when the lid is closed). After disabling it, the laptop opens straight to where it was left off (no greeting). Everything is good there. Now I'll mess around with light lockers settings
[08:38] <Kali_Yuga> yes I have the nvidia driver installed
[08:38] <shingshang> daftykins, would the full instructions be somewhere in that LiveUsbPendrivePersistent wiki page?
[08:38] <daftykins> m0r0n: :)
[08:38] <Zombyrad> m0r0n, nice
[08:38] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: open nvidia-settings,  there is a setting for (x)video colour correction
[08:38] <daftykins> shingshang: don't know, that's to achieve something else.
[08:39] <Kali_Yuga> proprietary driver yes! it doesn't happen on vlc though!
[08:39] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: I don't have an nvidia machine at paw, but I know this problem. Hitting the  "reset hardware defaults" button there should help
[08:39] <Fuchs> Yes, because it only happens to players that use a specific video output method. VLC, per default, uses something else
[08:39] <Kali_Yuga> well i need the graphic driver for games you know...
[08:39] <Fuchs> Yes, and I didn't say you should not use it
[08:40] <Fuchs> please read what I say and do what I say. Unless you prefer to chat around instead of solving your problem. Fine with me, after all I am not the one having problems
[08:40] <Kali_Yuga> dont work very good on the out of the box driver ... forgot the name
[08:40] <m0r0n> So light-locker is the issue. Now I'll have to find that programs bugs or just find a new way to lock on suspend
[08:40] <Kali_Yuga> ok I look there
[08:41] <Zombyrad> you can remove light-locker and replace with gnome-screensaver (but that might pull in some gnome dependencies, anyone knows?)
[08:41] <daftykins> Zombyrad: bad move.
[08:41] <m0r0n> It looks like this is a common issue, their fix didn't work though. See http://xubuntu.org/news/laptop-users-fix-available-for-the-black-screen-on-unlock-bug/
[08:41] <Zombyrad> yeah, figured, but xscreensaver is even worse :P
[08:42] <Zombyrad> m0r0n, was browsing that bug report too
[08:42] <daftykins> using a screensaver at all...
[08:42] <Zombyrad> *I was
[08:42] <Kali_Yuga> I don't see coulour correction :(((
[08:42] <Zombyrad> i'ts not for screensaver, it's for the lock on suspend, for security
[08:42] <Kali_Yuga> colour*
[08:44] <badbodh> m0r0n, remove light locker as zomby suggested. no harm in trying xscreensaver once. it ain't pretty, but lock works.
[08:44] <Zombyrad> daftykins, and what's wrong with a screensaver? I know it's kind of redundant for today's screens, but if it just blanks or turns off the screen, there's no issue afaik?
[08:44] <badbodh> if it doesn';t work, you can always hatefully purge it.
[08:44] <arek> welcome
[08:44] <daftykins> screensavers have been stupid since their inception
[08:45] <daftykins> my favourite has always been the display power button
[08:45] <DalekSec> !info xscreensaver-bsod
[08:45] <Zombyrad> they were necessary for old CRT screens though, unless you turn it off every time :P
[08:45] <badbodh> bsod is probably included in default set
[08:46] <daftykins> yes, thus not necessary
[08:46] <daftykins> power button = screensaver :)
[08:46] <DalekSec> !info xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
[08:46] <Kali_Yuga> You are talking about the "NVIDIA X Server Settings" correct ?
[08:46] <Zombyrad> DalekSec, is that a screensaver that does what I think it does? :o
[08:46] <daftykins> !who | Kali_Yuga
[08:47] <DalekSec> Zombyrad: It doesn't give you a BSOD, but displays a set of 'em yeah.
[08:47] <badbodh> Kali_Yuga, just type in first few alphabets and press 'tab'
[08:47] <Zombyrad> Awesome, I need that now :D
[08:47] <DalekSec> Zombyrad: There's also a lcdscrub one, no idea if it actually does what it says on the can.
[08:47] <Kali_Yuga> ja sorry i ment Fuchs
[08:48] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: yes.
[08:48] <Kali_Yuga> you said Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: open nvidia-settings,  there is a setting for (x)video colour correction
[08:49] <Fuchs> or the likes, yes. As I pointed out, I don't have nvidia-settings at paw right now, as I am (unfortunately) sitting at an AMD machine
[08:49] <Fuchs> it doesn't have a terrible lot of settings, worst case you can just go through it. The button your are looking for is  "reset to (hardware) defaults", that should be findable. Try that. Solved the issue with blue coloured video for me.
[08:50] <Kali_Yuga> hmm cuz I sadly can't find a colour correction setting :(
[08:50] <Zombyrad> Kali_Yuga, let me boot up my laptop, it has nvidia, I'll give you directions
[08:51] <Kali_Yuga> Wow I would be unbelievable thankful
[08:51] <daftykins> or you could google
[08:51] <Kali_Yuga> i did
[08:51] <badbodh> Kali_Yuga, Fuchs how about control center> color > add profile . is that relevant ?
[08:52] <Fuchs> badbodh: no
[08:52] <badbodh> ok
[08:52] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: I can check for you in roughly 9 hours, but I guess until then you have found it ...
[08:53] <Zombyrad> Open the Nvidia X server settings app and go to X screen 0
[08:53] <Kali_Yuga> cuz blue inverted colours is sometimes annoying it doesn't happen on vlc... thats why I thought about the vlc-backend
[08:53] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=0&image=nvidia_8751_02_sml   this one and the one below.
[08:53] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: well, you can obviously switch to vlc-backend, but that will only affect players using phonon. For the rest you still want to fix it
[08:53] <michael_2015> hi
[08:54] <michael_2015> :clear
[08:54] <Kali_Yuga> Sorry i don't see that option in my driver settings :( it's probably different from card to card or driver to driver ??
[08:54] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: are you using the nvidia driver?   cat /proc/drivers/nvidia/version
[08:55] <Zombyrad> Kali_Yuga, might be... Can you find an option in the left hand pane that says DFP-0 (or similar, usually the brand name of the screen)? Should be under the GPU section
[08:56] <Kali_Yuga> wait I send you all a screen ok
[08:57] <ablest1980> how do i apt-get firefox?
[08:57] <ablest1980> sudo apt-get install firefox?
[08:57] <badbodh> Kali_Yuga, you get the same issue on all video players? how does youtube work ?
[08:57] <Kali_Yuga> http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=15707602
[08:58] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: that's interesting
[08:58] <daftykins> ablest1980: you most likely already have it.
[08:58] <ablest1980> ok
[08:58] <badbodh> ablest1980, yes. but if i recall firefox is pre-installed in ubuntu.
[08:58] <ablest1980> just checking ty
[08:58] <ablest1980> yes
[08:58] <Kali_Yuga> can you direct me from there?
[08:58] <daftykins> looks like an optimus setup
[08:58] <ablest1980> i have it
[08:58] <Kali_Yuga> there is nothing right
[08:58] <ablest1980> XD
[08:58] <daftykins> ablest1980: well holy-moly
[08:58] <ablest1980> lol
[08:59] <Fuchs> Kali_Yuga: that looks indeed like a bit missing, however, what ablest1980 wrote. You happen to have a notebook, with an intel card in it, too?
[08:59] <Zombyrad> Kali_Yuga, yeah, seems like the option where the color correction stuff should be isn't there
[08:59] <Fuchs> if yes: I think that one is responsible for the output, so maybe you have to check their settings
[08:59] <m0r0n> daftykins, badbodh , Zombyrad ty for your patients. I'll try to figure out a lock later today.  I've always had pure nvidia setups...
[09:02] <daftykins> not that i know of, Zombyrad
[09:02] <badbodh> you guys use 'inxi' ? gives a lot of info for troubleshooting
[09:02] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: "lspci | pastebinit" please
[09:02] <Kali_Yuga> do what ok 1 sec pls
[09:02] <daftykins> badbodh: built in tools are more useful.
[09:02] <Kali_Yuga> not installed wait
[09:02] <daftykins> often we're helping new users.
[09:03] <badbodh> inxi is just a frontend. try it sometime, it's in repos. mint channel guys use it a lot. graphics network audio all in one.
[09:04] <Kali_Yuga> ok i could have done that differently but ok here my system
[09:04] <Kali_Yuga> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069668/
[09:05] <Zombyrad> Yeah, that looks like it might be a Nvidia Optimus setup
[09:05] <Kali_Yuga> for what was that important??
[09:05] <x4w31> Kali_Yuga: lspci -k
[09:06] <x4w31> ups im late :)
[09:06] <Kali_Yuga> ya
[09:07] <Kali_Yuga> ok what is an Nvidia Optimus now??
[09:07] <daftykins> sure is, ivybridge and so forth
[09:07] <daftykins> intel+nvidia hybrid graphics setup
[09:07] <Zombyrad> Kali_Yuga, because in essence you have 2 video cards, an intel one and the nvidia one, crudely satted
[09:07] <Zombyrad> *stated
[09:07] <Kali_Yuga> I know i have both
[09:07] <Kali_Yuga> which means D:
[09:07] <Kali_Yuga> ?
[09:08] <Zombyrad> Can you try optirun <your media player> and play a video and check if the colors are wrong still?
[09:08] <Kali_Yuga> but i dont use the Intel one actually... it's a laptop by the way
[09:09] <Ice_Strike> VNC view is really slugish remotely accessing to Ubuntu.. How to improve the speed?
[09:09] <Kali_Yuga> i try what is opti something?
[09:10] <Kali_Yuga> i mean opti sound good right
[09:10] <wileee> optimus
[09:10] <daftykins> optirun isn't even necessarily the implementation on there o0
[09:10] <Kali_Yuga> optimal sound always good
[09:10] <x4w3> Ice_Strike: vnc server options?
[09:10] <daftykins> you're just making up words now :)
[09:10] <Ice_Strike> x4w3 I am using that it come with Ubuntu.
[09:11] <Ice_Strike> Desktop Sharing
[09:11] <Guest79797> ii evah  can't booting iso file to Pendrive
[09:11] <Guest79797> on version ubuntu 15.04 mate
[09:11] <Guest79797> please help me
[09:12] <Kali_Yuga> apt-get install bumblebee
[09:12] <Kali_Yuga> ??
[09:12] <daftykins> Guest79797: how did you make the drive?
[09:12] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: no.
[09:12] <Zombyrad> Eh, no, Kali_Yuga
[09:12] <daftykins> bumblebee is the old outdated method
[09:12] <Kali_Yuga> optirun
[09:12] <Kali_Yuga> The program 'optirun' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[09:12] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[09:12] <Kali_Yuga> sudo apt-get install bumblebee
[09:12] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: don't do it.
[09:12] <EriC^^> Kali_Yuga: listen to daftykins
[09:12] <Kali_Yuga> ok
[09:12] <Guest79797> i have pendrive with 16 gb
[09:13] <x4w3> Kali_Yuga: xtightvncviewer is faster for slow vnc connections
[09:13] <Guest79797> i open the creator and i can't put iso file
[09:13] <Guest79797> i think about rufus
[09:13] <daftykins> Guest79797: no need, use 'dd' from the terminal to put the ISO on the flash drive
[09:13] <Kali_Yuga> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12069732/
[09:13] <Guest79797> how i can install rufus?
[09:13] <eejhaykyaw> hey
[09:13] <Guest79797> who have a teamviewer?
[09:13] <Guest79797> please help me with this.
[09:13] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: hmm you have two conflicting nvidia drivers installed, interesting
[09:14] <x4w3> Ice_Strike: xtightvncviewer -compresslevel 9 yourremotepc
[09:14] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: also, "dpkg -l | grep bumble | pastebinit"
[09:14] <Guest79797> but i fucked up my ubuntu, please repair all of my version
[09:14] <Guest79797> i can't install packages because it's broken.
[09:14] <x4w3> Ice_Strike: compresslevel9 is low quality
[09:15] <Kali_Yuga> really games are working great!
[09:15] <Kali_Yuga> ??
[09:15] <daftykins> Guest79797: that language isn't appropriate here.
[09:15] <Kali_Yuga> dpkg -l | grep bumble | pastebinit
[09:15] <Kali_Yuga> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[09:15] <daftykins> Guest79797: 'dd' came with it, it won't need installing.
[09:16] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: good stuff, that's what we wanted to see.
[09:16] <Kali_Yuga> xD what?
[09:16] <Guest79797> i can't unrar files .rar, after open the wine I can't open file .exe
[09:16] <Guest79797> i can't play on metin2
[09:16] <daftykins> Guest79797: you're hopping between tasks, either you want to make up a flash drive or you don't
[09:16] <daftykins> don't start talking about wine
[09:16] <Kali_Yuga> get playonlinux Guest79797
[09:17] <Guest79797> Kali from poland?
[09:17] <Kali_Yuga> no us sorry
[09:18] <Kali_Yuga> ok daftykins what now? why are they conflicting?
[09:18] <Guest79797> I oppened port of server minecraft 25565 ? After I reset my PC and i can't join on my server.
[09:18] <jokowi-asu> Guest79797, could you restart your brain? It seems hot.
[09:18] <daftykins> Kali_Yuga: eh it's probably fine. no idea on your original issue, whatever it was - colours or what not
[09:19] <daftykins> Guest79797: like i said, either you want a bootable flash drive made up or not - asking the channel 5 questions at once is just going to get you ignore
[09:19] <Kali_Yuga> yes blue inverted colours in video xDD
[09:19] <daftykins> d
[09:20] <Guest79797> jokowi What do you mean?
[09:20] <dan2wik> is there a way to make a user's ~ their / as well?
[09:20] <EriC^^> dan2wik: you want cd ~ to be cd / ?
[09:20] <dan2wik> EriC^^: I want / to be ~
[09:21] <EriC^^> dan2wik: i think you want to chroot them to their home dir then
[09:21] <SeerKan> @dan2wik only with jailshell probably
[09:22] <dan2wik> EriC^^: if they do ls / , what will they see?
[09:22] <EriC^^> nothing, they can't access anything outside their home dir
[09:22] <dan2wik> but they can write to root?
[09:23] <Guest79797> x
[09:23] <EriC^^> no
[09:23] <kolaman> i have created an upstart job but it doens't respawn @ all
[09:24] <kolaman> here is the upstart script that i created (http://www.pastebin.ca/3102016) can someone please look into this what am i doing wrong
[09:24] <kolaman> whenever the process is killed it doesn't respawn @all
[09:24] <dan2wik> EriC^^: I mostly want this so that they can only modify files in their directory using winscp
[09:25] <EriC^^> dan2wik: you can easily have them just chroot to their home with sftp i think
[09:25] <dan2wik> yes, they will be using sftp
[09:25] <Kali_Yuga> well it's alright i have a workaround
[09:27] <dan2wik> EriC^^: I can find the relevant information on setting that up on google, thank you for your direction.
[09:28] <EriC^^> no problem
[09:42] <mehionline> Hello ! I'm computer engineering student in Iran and in my summer free times and weekends I'd like to contribute to open source projects, I don't know where to start and how? I really appreciate if any body guide me
[09:42] <OerHeks> !contribute
[09:42] <mehionline> especially contributing to ubuntu
[09:42] <OerHeks> :-)
[09:44] <haloha> Mehionline: can you code ware to launch nuclear missile in usa?
[09:44] <EriC^^> O.o ?
[09:44] <ghostinzshell> Does anyone experience dropping connections on Intel wireless adapters (e.g Intel 7625)?
[09:44] <mehionline> tnx for the links @ubottu
[09:44] <ghostinzshell> N only networks also don't seem to appear, only bgn networks.
[09:45] <evidex> mehionline: Probably the best way is to look at open source projects you currently use, and see where you could help improve/fix them
[09:45] <EriC^^> mehionline: there's a package called how-can-i-help which you can install and tells you which projects need what and how you can help with them
[09:45] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install how-can-i-help
[09:46] <evidex> EriC^^: Nice. Didn't know about that one.
[09:50] <mehionline> how-can-i-help command give the following error :
[09:50] <mehionline> /usr/bin/how-can-i-help:135:in `open': No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - /home/mehionline/.cache/how-can-i-help/how-can-i-help.json.gz (Errno::ENOENT)
[09:50] <mehionline> 	from /usr/bin/how-can-i-help:135:in `<main>'
[09:51] <Fuchs> my guess would be that he is missing a file!
[09:53] <mehionline> I think it just works for debian not ubuntu
[09:54] <daftykins> or maybe ubuntu needs help with the "how can i help" prog
[09:54] <daftykins> so meta
[09:59] <EriC^^> mehionline: it used to work fine
[09:59] <EriC^^> guess there's a bug in it
[09:59] <EriC^^> as daftykins said you can report the bug :)
[09:59] <mehionline> how can i report the bug? from launchpad?
[10:00] <x4w3> para quitar un X-server con desintalar el lightdm o gdm me vale?
[10:00] <OerHeks> mehionline, open terminal: ubuntu-bug how-can-i-help
[10:00] <k1l> !es | x4w3
[10:01] <x4w3> sorry i want to paste in other channel, translating it, how do i desactivate x-server in linux? uninstalling gdm or lightdm is enough?
[10:02] <EriC^^> x4w3: add text to the kernel line in /etc/default/grub, then sudo update-grub
[10:02] <k1l> x4w3: temporary deactivating? use text as boot parameter
[10:02] <x4w3> definitive k1l EriC^^
[10:10] <georgi> I'create encryption software and I can't to sell software.
[10:10] <sdfswelp> anybody know what might be causing the issue with addons or some dropdown menus  getting stuck at "Loading" (with firefox)
[10:10] <sdfswelp> georgi who is your target audience ?
[10:11] <sdfswelp> storage ? cloud business ?
[10:11] <georgi> storage
[10:11] <atralheaven_> are flash or java disabled?
[10:12] <georgi> no I'm create in c++
[10:12] <atralheaven_> how can mention someone here?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> atralheaven_  type two characters of someone's name, then hit tab
[10:13] <sdfswelp> thanks for the pointer it must be about either one
[10:14] <georgi> How I can sell please tell me?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> georgi  wrong channel, this is for ubuntu support
[10:15] <atralheaven_> sorry
[10:15] <georgi> ok
[10:15] <georgi> sorry
[10:15] <sdfswelp> sorry
[10:16] <atralheaven_> Im using pidgin, are you sure that it works here too? @MonkeyDust
[10:16] <atralheaven_> MonkeyDust:  just for testing, I try to mention you
[10:17] <atralheaven_> did it work?
[10:17] <x4w3> pidgin run properly.
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> atralheaven_  great, you did it
[10:18] <atralheaven_> MonkeyDust: thank you! its better to use mentions
[10:19] <atralheaven_> sdfswelp: check if firefox flash or java is disabled, it may cause problems like this
[10:19] <georgi_> k
[10:19] <georgi_> I'm create encryption software and How I can sell this software.
[10:20] <sdfswelp> atralheaven_: I just noticed Firefox started blocking java update 45
[10:21] <sdfswelp> any suggestions ? it seems its the latest ??
[10:21] <k1l> georgi_: that is not an ubuntu support issue. ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat
[10:22] <atralheaven_> sdfswelp: do you have any addons that might be blocking java?
[10:22] <sdfswelp> not really, just some themes
[10:23] <sdfswelp> ubuntu modifications and atralheaven_ atralheaven_ unity stuff
[10:23] <sdfswelp> oops sorry, tabspamd
[10:24] <atralheaven_> sdfswelp: they wont block java. may you explain more? or if its possible, give me the page link so I can check myself
[10:25] <sdfswelp> https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p964
[10:25] <OerHeks> sdfswelp, Firefox does block that old java indeed > https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p964
[10:27] <atralheaven_> "Java Plugin 8 update 45 (click-to-play), Linux has been blocked for your protection." I see that too
[10:27] <OerHeks> current is Java 8 Update 51
[10:27] <atralheaven_> maybe the addon has some problems
[10:27] <k1l> atralheaven_: sdfswelp do you have all the latest updates installed?
[10:28] <k1l> run: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[10:28] <sdfswelp> I was about to ask about that because I just did distro and update & upgrade all of them
[10:28] <atralheaven_> k1l: I think so, btw its not my probelm
[10:28] <sdfswelp> and it's still at this update ?
[10:29] <est31> hi, how can I see which packages changed on ubuntu wily 15.10?
[10:29] <k1l> sdfswelp: please run my command to make sure its at the latest state.
[10:29] <est31> I want to find out why the launchpad daily builds i maintain fail
[10:29] <daftykins> est31: it's not released yet so chat in #ubuntu+1 please
[10:29] <atralheaven_> it seems that this addon has some issues, and firefox has blocked it, maybe!
[10:29] <OerHeks> sdfswelp, you will not get java updates if you installed it manually. see the !java factoid
[10:29] <georgi> I'm create Encryption software and I want to sell software.
[10:29] <k1l> est31: nearly all packages changed. gcc5 etc pp. see the logs why its failing
[10:30] <OerHeks> atralheaven_, wrong, firefox blocks it as it is out of date.
[10:30] <k1l> georgi: i already told you that this is not a marketplace. so now you are muted in here
[10:30] <sdfswelp> allright.. could you help me fix this ? which package is preferred in ubuntu
[10:30] <est31> k1l, the issue is they worked, since today 10 AM
[10:30] <est31> 8:16 AM sorry
[10:31] <k1l> est31: doesnt launchpad builder provide a log or error message?
[10:31] <est31> yes
[10:31] <sdfswelp> default-jre ?
[10:31] <est31> i have a suspicion
[10:31] <est31> but I want to confirm i
[10:31] <est31> t
[10:31] <est31> for it i need a list of updated packages
[10:31] <k1l> est31: see packages.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <est31> e.g. which packages were updated since yesterday
[10:31] <k1l> est31: there is not "the list".
[10:32] <atralheaven_> guys if I had a idea/suggestion for ubuntu, where can I tell developers about it?
[10:32] <k1l> atralheaven_: ubuntu--devel-discuss mailinglist
[10:33] <sdfswelp> fkkk... now I remember I needed oracle java for something. How do I even change back
[10:33] <OerHeks> !java
[10:34] <sdfswelp> yes openjdk I assume will solve theproblem
[10:34] <sdfswelp> cheers
[10:37] <atralheaven_> I've never worked with mailing lists :| I should learn what it is and how can I use it, I can't spend much time for it, can I just tell someone who is in developers group about it?
[10:37] <daftykins> that's the way by the sounds :)
[10:37] <atralheaven_> just simple ideas to make ubuntu better
[10:39] <OerHeks> atralheaven_, that is how development works, not in an IRC channel, but typed out in a mailinglist.
[10:39] <k1l> !mailinglists
[10:40] <atralheaven_> thanks, you're right, I will check that out :)
[10:40] <OerHeks> think globally/timezones/not all developers are hanging in an IRC channel.
[10:44] <est31> well, minetest development happens mainly via irc
[10:44] <est31> some projects do it via irc, some do it via mailing lists.
[10:45] <est31> as long as it isnt walled garden like trello or so...
[10:50] <onicrom> hey all, anyone else having weird problems in 15.04?  in firefox the browser will reduce zoom to 30%, in chrome if i have multiple tabs and i try to use a anything but the first (far left) tab it 'scrolls' automatically back to the first. in menu systems in other things like skype it automatically starts scrolling
[10:51] <onicrom> i recently apt-get upgraded , wondering if anyone else has found thing
[10:51] <onicrom> *this
[10:51] <daftykins> sounds like something is rolling your mouse wheel
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:51] <daftykins> mornin'
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> onicrom  yes, sounds mouse related, not ubuntu related
[10:52] <onicrom> that makes sense but my scroll wheel is not free rolling
[10:52] <daftykins> right but things can go wrong
[10:53] <daftykins> unplug it and use the browsers with the keyboard, see what happens
[10:53] <daftykins> free option ^
[10:53] <onicrom> lol
[10:53] <daftykins> just for testing i mean, i'm deadly serious
[10:53] <onicrom> whats the non-free ?
[10:53] <onicrom> no i get it
[10:53] <est31> can I somehow see the build log for yesterday?
[10:54] <est31> launchpad
[10:54] <daftykins> est31: as i told you earlier, #ubuntu+1 is the place for wily talk.
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> onicrom  the non-free is Windows   (joke)
[10:54] <daftykins> it's not out thus this is the wrong channel
[10:55] <k1l> est31: try if someone in #launchpad   knowns
[10:56] <onicrom> well i think youre right about the mouse, unplugging it may have helped but its a bit harder to reproduce without it :)
[10:57] <onicrom> but yes it makes sense because i had the same problem in gnome-terminal with tabs too
[10:57]  * onicrom tips his had to MonkeyDust and daftykins
[10:57] <daftykins> onicrom: what happened?
[10:58] <onicrom> daftykins: nothing, which is good
[10:59] <daftykins> onicrom: as in the behaviour went away when you unplugged the mouse?
[11:00] <onicrom> daftykins: correct, but navigation is a bit slower so not entirely sure its reproducable
[11:00] <onicrom> without the mouse
[11:01] <NetworkingPro> hey everyone
[11:01] <NetworkingPro> What exactly is the dmesg log
[11:01] <NetworkingPro> ?
[11:01] <daftykins> kernel messages
[11:01] <daftykins> or daemon messages
[11:01] <daftykins> onicrom: for what it's worth i had an issue with my mouse wheel going up the page as much as it would go down when i rolled it just down... took it apart and cleaned it up, found lots of gunk - all solved :)
[11:02] <onicrom> NetworkingPro: man dmesg
[11:02] <NetworkingPro> daftykins: thx
[11:02] <NetworkingPro> onicrom: will do
[11:02] <onicrom> daftykins: funny thing i was just thinking ive had this mouse for 4yrs now and use it at least 10hrs a day 7 days a week. im sure thats the case :)
[11:02] <est31> k1l, thanks
[11:03] <onicrom> also i am a big fan of dmesg -T
[11:03] <onicrom> its about TTTTime that was added
[11:03] <daftykins> XD
[11:04] <onicrom> time for BACON and eggs
[11:04] <onicrom> *droool*
[11:04] <daftykins> one please
[11:05] <onicrom> surething
[11:05] <NetworkingPro> << Just had ham
[11:05] <NetworkingPro> was pretty tasty.
[11:06] <thalisson_> ##aws
[11:06] <root____6> jj
[11:15] <leeyaa> hello
[11:16] <leeyaa> trying to add a rule to network table with this: /sbin/ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/28 dev eth0 src <IP_ADDRESS>   table in
[11:16] <leeyaa> it returns invalid argument, any idea what am i doing wrong ?
[11:16]  * onicrom hands daftykins some bacon
[11:16] <leeyaa> i am pretty sure it used to work
[11:16] <onicrom> ive never gotten used to the ip route
[11:16] <onicrom> er ip command
[11:17] <onicrom> the src thing is throwing me off from that command
[11:17] <leeyaa> onicrom: what do you mean
[11:17] <onicrom> it looks wrong
[11:17] <Calvin_> fdaf
[11:17] <leeyaa> onicrom: basically i need those two routes https://bpaste.net/show/fda62730696a
[11:18] <abb0> i know this might sound stupid and if it does i apologize, but how stable is ubuntu mate?
[11:18] <abb0> was thinkin of giving it a shot, looks nice as heck
[11:18] <leeyaa> maybe skip the src ?
[11:18] <onicrom> yes
[11:18] <leeyaa> hm
[11:18] <leeyaa> again
[11:18] <leeyaa> something else is wrong
[11:18] <onicrom> i would use route
[11:19] <leeyaa> not sure how to add to table with just route
[11:19] <onicrom> route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/28 gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:19] <daftykins> ^
[11:19] <leeyaa> onicrom: i need both tables. using two isp uplinks
[11:20] <leeyaa> btw /sbin/ip route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0 src <IP_ADDRESS> works but i cant access the 115 ip from the outside
[11:20] <onicrom> leeyaa: ah
[11:27] <onicrom> that leads me to a problem i need to solve actually
[11:28] <onicrom> im going to have 3 different interfaces (8021q tagged) i have one set as default route, but i need to ensure that the traffic goes back out the same interface it come sin on
[11:28] <daftykins> possibly one for ##networking
[11:29] <leeyaa> daftykins: i was refered from #networking to #ubuntu :D
[11:29] <daftykins> right but you're not the person i'm talking to.
[11:31] <leeyaa> oh sorry
[11:32] <onicrom> leeyaa: what are you trying to do with your rule
[11:32] <asteriskATmarmuD>  I can't remember where to add a user to the gosa admins. any idea?
[11:33] <leeyaa> onicrom: to make the second upling available while im using default gw from first network upling
[11:33] <leeyaa> both are using eth0 as network interface
[11:33] <leeyaa> upling/uplink
[11:33] <onicrom> the
[11:33] <onicrom> 'src' is in the same subnet as your network
[11:34] <onicrom> by default it would route out eth0 if thats the case
[11:34] <leeyaa> onicrom: i used to have this but for some reason it stopped working # Make our box accessible on both interfaces # We must have the following lines in /etc/iproute2/rt_tables: # 20 bl # 21 in  #/sbin/ip route del table bl 2>/dev/null /sbin/ip route del table bl /sbin/ip route del table in #/sbin/ip route del table in 2>/dev/null  /sbin/ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/28 dev eth0 src <IP_ADDRESS> table bl /sbin/ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:34] <leeyaa> ah snap
[11:34] <leeyaa> i mean this https://bpaste.net/show/8235a2460421
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  better use a pastebin
[11:34] <leeyaa> MonkeyDust: yeah sorry
[11:34] <leeyaa> onicrom: this used to be working until reboot
[11:34] <MrPPS> eesh, upgraded from 14.10 -> 15.04, and since switching to systemd, userspace bootup time has increased to 3.5 minutes :/
[11:35] <tyy> Congratulation
[11:35] <leeyaa> MrPPS: welcome to systemd madness ;p
[11:35] <MrPPS> haha
[11:35] <daftykins> s/systemd/OS upgrade/
[11:36] <mcphail> MrPPS: that would seem abnormal
[11:36] <leeyaa> onicrom: any idea what i might be missing? :P
[11:36] <onicrom> leeyaa: ive never using multiple routing tables in linux so im trying to wrap my head around thing
[11:36] <onicrom> *this
[11:37] <MrPPS> daftykins: I only say systemd because systemd-analyze blame suggests it's the systemd-udev-settle that's the longest
[11:37] <MrPPS> and a lot of others have experienced the same thing related to systemd
[11:39] <tyy> Never know about systemd - still stuck with old ubuntu server 7.x
[11:39] <leeyaa> tyy: i has ubuntu 6, like 90 of em
[11:39] <tyy> Lol
[11:39] <onicrom> leeyaa: im googling and saw this syntax
[11:39] <onicrom> ip route add table local local <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0 proto kernel scope host src <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:40] <leeyaa> onicrom: what is src for
[11:40] <leeyaa> and after local that ip, gw ?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> gw is gateway
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> src is source
[11:40] <leeyaa> MonkeyDust: i mean what is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:41] <onicrom> leeyaa: i think <IP_ADDRESS> is where you put network
[11:41] <onicrom> and change scope from host to net
[11:41] <onicrom> ?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  are you not familiar with ip addresses?
[11:41] <onicrom>        SCOPE := [ host | link | global | NUMBER ]
[11:41] <onicrom> maybe not
[11:42] <leeyaa> sigh
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> leeyaa  surf to whatismyip.com and read  (don't show us, it's for you)
[11:45] <leeyaa> MonkeyDust: i have no idea what are you talking about
[11:46] <philip_> when installing ubuntu server is it good to use  lvm
[11:46] <daftykins> depends if you want to use LVM, i never do - it's black magic to me.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> philip_  with LVM, you can more easily add, remove, resize partitions ... there's a learning curve tho, i only know the basics
[11:50] <philip_> so its better to instal with lvm rather and just installing as root
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> philip_  but also explore 'linux containers' lxc
[11:50] <daftykins> it's only better if you know how and want to use it :P
[11:50] <philip_> which is more preferred
[11:51] <daftykins> read about it and then just pick one!
[11:51] <mobile3> -bash: a2enmod: command not found  ?? Please anyone help !
[11:51] <daftykins> i don't personally think it important to ever need to resize partitions post install
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> philip_  if you don't know what it is and what it's for, don't use it
[11:51] <TJ-> leeyaa: Although it ought not to matter, it is convention to specify the network by its base address, which is "<IP_ADDRESS>/28" instead of by one of the addresses within the CIDR as you have. It makes reading the tables easier
[11:51] <philip_> i have no idea about lxc
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> philip_  that's why i suggested to explore it... you have no idea about lvm either...
[11:52] <leeyaa> TJ-: ill note that
[11:52] <philip_> mostly wat i want to do is increase partition after adding additional harddisk when configured with RAID
[11:52] <TJ-> philip_: Using LVM is a good approach, especially if you reserve some space for future allocations instead of allocating all space immediately
[11:52] <leeyaa> btw im still scratching my head. i am reading this and it is supposed to work https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Two_Default_Gateways_on_One_System
[11:53] <leeyaa> however im still getting invalid argument
[11:53] <TJ-> leeyaa: does /var/log/kern.log give any clues?
[11:54] <leeyaa> TJ-: no thats all i get https://bpaste.net/show/f00cc09d640e
[11:54] <philip_> am actually configuring hardware RAID , and added additional harddisk but trying to increase size
[11:54] <TJ-> leeyaa: is there anything in those route tables alredy, when you issue the command? Also, what ip addresses are assigned to the interface at this point ("ip addr show dev eth0") ?
[11:55] <TJ-> philip_: TRUE hardware RAID, or fakeRAID?
[11:55] <leeyaa> TJ-: default routes should be in the tables and thease are the ips https://bpaste.net/show/87d2b5feb637
[11:55] <leeyaa> TJ-: this is what i had as a script and it used to work https://bpaste.net/show/8235a2460421
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> philip_  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[11:56] <leeyaa> im sure im missing something weird
[11:57] <philip_> what i want to do is, after adding additional harddisk i want it to take effect on the ubuntu server
[11:58] <daftykins> that will never be auto
[11:58] <philip_> by increasing the partition
[11:58] <daftykins> that's a really bad idea, one disk would die and you may lose everything
[12:01] <philip_> i have three harddisk(RAID 5 configured) added a new harddisk to increase the space which i have done.but now trying to increase the size on the ubuntu server using resize2fs but not workin
[12:01] <daftykins> RAID5 provided by what? Linux mdadm?
[12:02] <philip_> i configured hard ware RAID
[12:02] <daftykins> then this is nothing to do with the OS
[12:02] <daftykins> well, if you already increased the RAID volume properly and have all that done, just gparted could resize the partition
[12:03] <daftykins> (maybe)
[12:03] <daftykins> perhaps if you booted a live session of ubuntu desktop someone could help you assess the current situation
[12:03] <philip_> my problem is how to resize because it is an ubuntu server not GUI
[12:04] <daftykins> right but no matter what, you don't resize from the *running* system if it's not LVM
[12:04] <daftykins> so you need to boot a live session of desktop.
[12:04] <philip_> it is lvm
[12:04] <TJ-> philip_: does the OS report the new hardware RAID device size?
[12:04] <philip_> yes pls
[12:05] <philip_> its not the resizing am having little issue with
[12:06] <TJ-> philip_: how are you confirming the RAID device is now larger than it was - what command are you using, and what is its output ?
[12:07] <philip_> using fdisk
[12:10] <TJ-> philip_: right, so you have a larger disk, which has partitions on it, and in those partitions are file-systems. You can only use resize2fs the file-system, but to do that, the partition that contains the file-system needs to be enlarged first, *and* the kernel told to re-read the partition table, otherwise a reboot is required for the kernel to read the partition table again
[12:11] <philip_> i used resize2fs but its not taking effect even after resizing it
[12:14] <vjgty> excuse me!
[12:14] <daftykins> philip_: pro tip would be to actually provide some evidence of this situation and not just words
[12:14] <philip_> okay
[12:15] <vjgty> i am looking for help with ubuntu
[12:16] <foobarfoobarbar> hello
[12:16] <foobarfoobarbar> How do I do this in bash? git commit -m 'pass | smth | like | this'
[12:17] <vjgty> excuse me! could anyone show me how to contact help with ubuntu?
[12:17] <daftykins> !ask | vjgty
[12:19] <teward> vjgty: 'help' is ambiguous.  You should start by stating what your current problem is
[12:19] <teward> or what you really need.
[12:24] <vjgty> ok. my problem is that i am running Windows 10 and i downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and burned the ISO in the USB. after that I ran Wubi from the Windows explorer, and then restarted. I booted into the USB, but after a while, the login window appeared. I searched for help. I did everything I could. I entered the username 'ubuntu' and leave the password field blank. I also press Ctrl + Alt + F1 to create a new user name, and the problem still exists: there was a
[12:24] <k1l> dont use wubi
[12:25] <k1l> make a real install into own partitions. or if you want to test, then just boot the usb-live-system to test ubuntu.
[12:26] <vjgty> k1l: could you show me how to install ubuntu into my own partitions?
[12:27] <salikovpro> ololo?
[12:29] <onicrom> leeyaa: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[12:30] <vjgty> could anyone show me how to install ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS without using wubi?
[12:30] <leeyaa> onicrom: thats with two interfaces
[12:30] <leeyaa> im using one ;p
[12:30] <leeyaa> second interface is for local network only
[12:30] <vjgty> could anyone show me how to install ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS without using wubi?
[12:31] <Mathisen> vjgty, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <onicrom> leeyaa: add another :)
[12:32] <onicrom> leeyaa: vlan tags?
[12:32] <leeyaa> onicrom: im supposed to do it with one
[12:32] <leeyaa> and the funny part is it used to work
[12:32] <onicrom> can you use 8021q
[12:32] <leeyaa> 8021q ?
[12:32] <onicrom> eth0.100 would be an interface using vlan 100
[12:32] <onicrom> its a new 'device'
[12:33] <onicrom> but uses the same wire
[12:33] <vjgty> Mathisen: it is a mess now. there are both ubuntu and windows in my PC. and the boot with USB ended up with infinite circles of login screens
[12:33] <leeyaa> onicrom: how do you configure that
[12:33] <leeyaa> i used to do it on gentoo
[12:34] <leeyaa> no idea how to make eth0.something on ubuntu
[12:34] <onicrom> your switch needs to have the vlans setup
[12:34] <onicrom> apt-get install vlan
[12:34] <leeyaa> it doesnt ;p
[12:34] <leeyaa> so out of the question
[12:34] <onicrom> then edit /etc/network/interfaces and just define an interface eth0.###
[12:34] <Mathisen> vjgty, if you just want to have ubuntu on your machine just boot from a dvd then and choose " Wipe the drive " then everything will be gone as long as you dont have multiple drives
[12:34] <onicrom> well fix your switches :)
[12:35] <Mathisen> vjgty, beware EVERYTHING will be lost
[12:35] <leeyaa> onicrom: it used to work. i just need to find out whats wrong now
[12:35] <vjgty> Mathisen: But the only thing I have now is my USB, i do not have a dvd
[12:36] <Mathisen> vjgty, usb works fine
[12:36] <vjgty> Mathisen: I burned the ISO into it
[12:36] <Mathisen> vjgty, does not work like that... try this >> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[12:37] <k1l_> vjgty: do you want windows and ubunut on it or just ubuntu?
[12:38] <vjgty> Mathisen: can i install ubuntu on my hard drive using that tool?
[12:38] <Mathisen> vjgty, it will create a usb that you can boot from, so yes
[12:39] <vjgty> k1l: I want both windows and ubuntu
[12:39] <k1l_> vjgty: ok. what OS are you using right now?
[12:40] <vjgty> Mathisen :my USB has only 2GB
[12:40] <vjgty> Mathisen: is that a problem?
[12:40] <pi-> Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /brython_log.txt on this server.
[12:40] <vjgty> k1l: i am using Windows 10 OS
[12:40] <pi-> I've just done "sudo ln -s /home/pi/irclogs/freenode/#brython.log /home/pi/web/public_html/brython_log.txt" but http://pipad.org/brython_log.txt gives "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /brython_log.txt on this server."
[12:40] <k1l_> vjgty: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[12:41] <pi-> Sorry for the first line, IRC client bug
[12:41] <Mathisen> vjgty, 2 GB should be enough
[12:41] <k1l_> vjgty: see that howto. 2gb usb is fine.
[12:41] <pi-> Can anyone tell me why this fails?
[12:42] <vjgty> mathisen: can I use Rufus instead?
[12:43] <vjgty> Mathisen: can I use Rufus instead?
[12:43] <vjgty> k1l: can I use Rufus instead?
[12:43] <Mathisen> vjgty, use whatever you feel is best for you
[12:43] <Mathisen> vjgty, in the end its all the same
[12:44] <vjgty> Mathisen: well, the fact is that I tried rufus and it got stuck ;-)
[12:44] <Mathisen> vjgty, but do some reading first if you want to keep windows also so you dont go and delete the windows partition during the installtion
[12:44] <leeyaa> sigh
[12:45] <vjgty> Mathisen: thank you, I will try your method for the better
[12:45] <vjgty> k1l: Thank you so much
[12:45] <k1l_> vjgty: after you created the usb, shrink the windows partitions from inside windows to make space for the ubuntu installation.
[12:46] <vjgty> k1l: how to shrink it?
[12:46] <leeyaa> the damn second interface is working but i cant ping it
[12:46] <leeyaa> i had this
[12:46] <leeyaa> i hate this*
[12:46] <vjgty> k1l_ how to shrink it?
[12:48] <k1l_> vjgty: https://www.petri.com/shrink-system-partition-in-windows-7
[12:49] <vjgty> k1l_: thank you so much!
[12:50] <vjgty> bye guys!
[12:50] <TJ-> leeyaa: have you run tcpdump on the interface to see what is arriving?
[12:53] <leeyaa> TJ-: yeah iptables rules are messed up. ill figure it out
[12:54] <jabba_> does the time btrfs-convert need to covert an ext4-fs to btrfs depend on the amount of files or filesizes?
[12:55] <TJ-> jabba_: I would assume so, since I'd also asusme that unallocated blocks can be skipped over
[12:56] <jabba_> TJ-, you would assume it depends on size?
[12:57] <TJ-> jabba_: I would assume it depends on the number of allocated blocks in the source file-system... and the less free space in the source the more shuffling the conversion will have to do
[12:57] <jabba_> damn... i guess converting a 12TB device (1TB free) will take ages... :(
[13:00] <tyy> Lol
[13:04] <TJ-> jabba_:  hope you've got a good back-ups and UPS running :)
[13:04] <the_upgrade> What is a standard input stream?
[13:05] <k1l_> the_upgrade: in what context?
[13:05] <the_upgrade> I'm trying to understand how all these hyphenated commands work.
[13:05] <the_upgrade> e.g., -p
[13:06] <k1l_> the_upgrade: still need more context
[13:06] <the_upgrade> Well I read that the hyphen is a command to "use the standard  input stream"
[13:06] <Kartagis> the_upgrade: they are called parametres
[13:06] <the_upgrade> I dont understand what that means
[13:07] <k1l_> the_upgrade: "stream" got a lot of meanings in the IT. so if you cant even name the program/command where you read that word in the documentation i cant help you :/
[13:07] <Kartagis> the_upgrade: standard input stream is (I think) the parametre you feed the application from command line
[13:08] <TJ-> the_upgrade: every process initially is allocated 3 file-descriptors: 0 = stdin, 1 = stdout, 2 = stderr. stdin receives input (standard input)
[13:08] <TJ-> the_upgrade: if you pipe processes together with something like "echo hello | grep hello" the shell connects stdout of "echo" to stdin of "grep"
[13:09] <TJ-> the_upgrade: alternatively, some programs take "-" in place of a filename to indicate they should read from stdin rather than a file
[13:10] <the_upgrade> Ok, so for example, if I enter this into the terminal: mysql -u root -p
[13:11] <the_upgrade> What exactly am I doing?
[13:12] <TJ-> the_upgrade: the mysql client is receiving 3 arguments, denoted by "-u", "root", and "-p" ... it interprets them according to its own usage rules, which you can view for most commands using the "--help", "-h" options or using the manual with "man <command>" as in "man mysql"
[13:13] <TJ-> the_upgrade: according to "man mysql" ... "--user=user_name, -u user_name"
[13:13] <the_upgrade> TJ: Very helpful answers, thank you.
[13:13] <TJ-> the_upgrade: so there is a 'long' form "--user=" and a 'short' form "-u" that both mean the same thing, and expect the next argument in the list to be a user-name
[13:14] <TJ-> the_upgrade: we often use the 'long' form to make a command easy to read, and the 'short' form when we're fed up of typing!
[13:16] <the_upgrade> What are the double hyphens for? e.g. --help?
[13:17] <maniacoDpr> hi
[13:18] <TJ-> the_upgrade: notice in the man-age description of the options that all 'long' options are prefixed with "--" and 'short' options by "-"
[13:18] <k1l_> the_upgrade: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11376/what-does-double-dash-mean-also-known-as-bare-double-dash
[13:18] <TJ-> the_upgrade: that is the signal to the argument parser as to what type of argument to expect
[13:21] <Mathisen> wow.... this must be the lecture of the month
[13:21] <MoPac> Hi all. Since yesterday, I've been getting constant hangs/crashes in Firefox (after 40.0 update) on 15.04 x64.  I know it's likely an FF issue, but running it through gdb and getting traces has suggested that it has to do with something broken in threading / piping. I'm hoping someone here might have some technical insight that could help me understand better what's going on?
[13:21] <MoPac> See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193855
[13:21] <gartral> hey all, I have a problem, after a botched intall attempt of 15.04 in UEFI-mode I wiped out my install and re-installed, but there seems to be a residule artifact on my drive's /boot/efi as seen here Password entry required for 'Please enter passphrase for disk WDC_WD3003FZEX-00Z4SA0 (cryptswap1) on none!' (PID 5882).
[13:22] <gartral> hey all, I have a problem, after a botched intall attempt of 15.04 in UEFI-mode I wiped out my install and re-installed, but there seems to be a residule artifact on my drive's /boot/efi as seen here "Password entry required for 'Please enter passphrase for disk WDC_WD3003FZEX-00Z4SA0 (cryptswap1) on none!' (PID 5882)." (repost to fix punctuation)
[13:22] <cfhowlett> gartral, that's not uefi, that's from encryption
[13:23] <EriC^^> ^ +1
[13:23] <gartral> cfhowlett: well, whatever, how do i fix it?
[13:23] <EriC^^> start with your attitude
[13:24] <TJ-> MoPac: "Corrupted shared library list" ... does "ldd" show anything out of the ordinary?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> gartral, I assume you have encrypted the HDD?
[13:25] <gartral> cfhowlett: no, i haven't, only my home folder, which is why i assumed this was uefi-related
[13:25] <cfhowlett> gartral, I've found nothing but heartbreak with encryption, so I'm not the one to advise you.  sorry.
[13:26] <gartral> cfhowlett: also see http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot2015-08-1309-18-25.php
[13:26] <TJ-> gartral: the previous system created an (encrypted) swap partition... right now there probably isn't one defined but when the LUKS header for the swap partition is seen it triggers cryptsetup, which reads "/etc/crypttab" to find out how to unlock it, finds no reference to that partition, and asks you for a key
[13:26] <MoPac> TJ-: Not sure; is there an option I should run it with to check? I had done a bit of searching and was enlightened about the idea that it's probably a corrupted list of libraries rather than a list of corrupted libraries, but that's as far as I got ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30128220/finding-cause-of-corrupted-shared-library-error-qt5-c ). And I'm not sure if it's directly related or ot
[13:27] <gartral> TJ-: how might I rectify this?
[13:27] <TJ-> gartral: "sudo lsblk -f" might help identify which partition it is... then you can decide what is the best remedy - either zap the LUKS header, or ensure the new install uses the same partition and rewrites the key
[13:28] <czwolf> Hello, how could i add (XFCE) context command for the folder "Search for" for each directory I rightclick, including subdirectories (Thunar).
[13:29] <TJ-> MoPac: try "ldd -v /usr/lib/firefox/firefox"
[13:31] <gartral> TJ-: the error specifically says the drive, which is my internal hdd, on "none", also... "marking GPT swap partition /dev/sda3 as no-auto, so that the encrypted swap partition cryptswap1 will be used..."
[13:31] <MoPac> TJ-: Output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071009/
[13:32] <gartral> TJ-: how do i zap the luks header?
[13:35] <TJ-> gartral: OK, so /dev/sda3 was/is discovered. Can you pastebin "/etc/fstab" and "/etc/crypttab" (the latteronly if it doesn't contain anything sensitive you've put there)
[13:38] <czwolf> To be more specific - I want to execute a specific command in a given directory, the command will be gnome-search-tool. I want it to be run for a directory I right click in Thunar. I would like to get some context menu "Search for" there. Any ideas? Thank you.
[13:38] <gartral> TJ-: certainly! fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071054/ and crypttab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071059/
[13:39] <gartral> TJ-: oh.. now i see, my swap is still encrpyted >.< i guess the option in the installer "remove everything and install ubuntu" is slightly mis-leading
[13:40] <TJ-> gartral: it's slightly more subtle than that. swap is encrypted with a key created each time the system boots from /dev/random
[13:40] <vikram123> hey
[13:40] <gartral> TJ-: did you see my screenshot?
[13:41] <TJ-> gartral: in theory even after a reinstall this should work but..!  can you "pastebinit <(sudo lsblk -f)"
[13:41] <gartral> TJ-: you reminded me i need to install pastebinit
[13:42] <vikram123> gartral: hey
[13:42] <gartral> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071096/
[13:43] <PornPirate> hey everyone
[13:44] <PornPirate> So, I have a ruby process thats no closing files.. its spawning 100's of thousands of network files (lsof) very quickly.
[13:44] <PornPirate> Any idea how to troubleshoot that?
[13:44] <PornPirate> Im... lost
[13:44] <cfhowlett> PornPirate, ask #ruby
[13:45] <PornPirate> cfhowlett: nothing that I can do at the linux level to find out more?
[13:46] <TJ-> gartral: right, I *think* it's trying to unlock /dev/sdb5 ... we need to prove that is indeed  WDC_WD3003FZEX
[13:46] <TJ-> gartral: "pastebinit <(ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/  /dev/disk/by-uuid/ )"
[13:47] <TJ-> MoPac: That ldd output looks correct, and is identical to mine (also got FF40 here)
[13:47] <gartral> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071125/
[13:48] <MoPac> TJ-: Do you think my threading issue would be something worth asking devs of glibc about? I never know whether there's real involvement of that code since it's always referenced everywhere...
[13:49] <TJ-> MoPac: I think you'd need some string evidence of a bug to interest them; pthreads always gets the blame :)
[13:50] <TJ-> gartral: OK, so the issue is /dev/sda3 ... which according to 'lsblk' is a pure unencrypted swap, but apparently also may have a LUKS header. hang on whilst I test this
[13:50] <MoPac> TJ-: I gather than libpthreads is developed just as part of glibc, right? It's not a separate project?
[13:50] <gartral> TJ-: ty, take your time
[13:50] <Voziv> Anyone know why a zip file would refuse to extract on my ubuntu server using unzip, but when I download it to my windows machine I can extract it without a problem?
[13:51] <EriC^^> different compression maybe
[13:51] <TJ-> gartral: OK, can you show me "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sda3)"
[13:52] <gartral> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12071158/
[13:52] <TJ-> Voziv: run "file /path/to/file.zip" on it to see what zip version header the file has
[13:52] <maniacoDpr> Hi. anyb0dy knows why i can not update the kubuntu repository? (with sudo). it says server not found O.o thanks
[13:53] <k1l_> maniacoDpr: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"?
[13:53] <cfhowlett> maniacoDpr, what ubuntu number?
[13:53] <Voziv> EriC^^: I should fill in a bit more info, we have a windows server that pushes zip files to a linux server to transfer some files. Smaller zips extract fine (< 6gb most of the time), but we have had a 20gb zip and a 14gb zip fail now. And the latest is a 5gb zip which is odd since we had a 6gb zip succeeed.
[13:53] <Voziv> TJ-: b1489716-160f-4dc9-8d1e-c6c617004949.zip: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
[13:54] <TJ-> gartral: Yes, that confirms it. sda3 was originally encrypted and now isn't, but has the LUKS header. Do "sudo swapoff /dev/sda3" to begin with
[13:54] <gartral> TJ-: swap disabled
[13:54] <maniacoDpr> ops.I mean ubuntu not kubuntu. and  i am not right now in front of my computer... but its the 14.0
[13:55] <TJ-> Voziv: Well, unzip shouldn't have a problem with V2.0 so I'm not sure what is happening unless there's a password on 1 or more of the archive contents
[13:55] <EriC^^> maniacoDpr: 14.10 utopic or 14.04 trusty lts?
[13:55] <maniacoDpr> ok. i will ask again in a couple of hours :-) sorry
[13:55] <TJ-> gartral: OK ... now I have to think carefully :)
[13:56] <maniacoDpr> thx EriC^^
[13:56] <gartral> Voziv: can you install dtrx on the server and try using that?
[13:56] <Voziv> gartral: I used dtrx :), It uses "unzip -q <filename>"
[13:57] <BlackSky> Hello, I would like to know if y'all know of a modern terminal emulator that will be able to support Ctrl+backspace
[13:57] <Voziv> I just tried 7z e <filename> and it seems to be working which is great, but now I need to figure out why 7z can do it and unzip can't (or more specifically zip4j, as that's what's failing for us)
[13:58] <TJ-> Voziv: possibly it was created with 7z which uses an algorithm that isn't in unzip
[13:58] <Voziv> TJ-: It was created with zip4j, and other zips work fine which is what's baffling me
[13:58] <Federico> hi
[13:59] <TJ-> Voziv: On Windows, if 7z has been installed, it's DLL will likely be automatically triggered when that algorithm is found
[13:59] <TJ-> Voziv: really? Hmmm, no idea then!
[13:59] <Voziv> That said, I need to wait for this to fully extract
[13:59] <gartral> Voziv: what does unzip -Z -h on that file return?
[14:00] <protn> hey folks
[14:00] <protn> for some reason i cant add russian in Ibus preferences
[14:00] <protn> any ideas how to do it?
[14:01] <Voziv> gartral: https://gist.github.com/lrobert/f78cef9aacbf481fac5e
[14:02] <TJ-> gartral: still figuring it out... deciphering what /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks.functions:do_swap ()    does
[14:03] <evergreen> hi
[14:04] <gartral> TJ-: ahhhaha! you're ftp client wasn't in binary mode when you transferred that file.. either that or something else mangled the file
[14:05] <whytrytofly> anyone succesfully rinnin a pokerclient?
[14:05] <evergreen> my multimedia keys [play/pause-next-prv-mute-volUP-volDOWN] not work please help me.
[14:05] <whytrytofly> runnin
[14:05] <whytrytofly> evergreen distro?
[14:05] <gartral> TJ-: sorry
[14:05] <evergreen> whytrytofly, ubuntu 15.04
[14:05] <gartral> Voziv: ahhhaha! you're ftp client wasn't in binary mode when you transferred that file.. either that or something else mangled the file
[14:05] <TJ-> gartral: :D
[14:05] <Voziv> gartral: I assume that was meant for me. I don't get why 7z can still get through it though
[14:06] <gartral> Voziv: because 7z will attempt to auto-recover
[14:06] <Voziv> hmm
[14:06] <Voziv> I suppose I can checksum to see
[14:07] <TJ-> gartral: just to avoid any unnecessary hacking here, did this start happening after a reboot
[14:08] <evergreen> whytrytofly, i think after home director change to chmod 775 this keys not work
[14:08] <protn> managed
[14:08] <protn> :D
[14:08] <farciarz84> hi, I would like to extract all strings like  _TRL("Sample text") from my source files and convert them to -> Sample text. Any idea how?
[14:08] <gartral> TJ-: good question, and I can't rightly answer that as i've rebooted several times, however I CAN confirm it happens several times during an apt-get update/upgrade
[14:08] <TuquiTuqui> Hi. Is there an app that will allow me to upload text to pastebin quickly?
[14:09] <TuquiTuqui> (or some other similar site)
[14:09] <k1l_> !pastebinit | TuquiTuqui
[14:09] <evergreen> whytrytofly,  a time remove .config/dconf/user
[14:10] <evergreen> whytrytofly, but not true and work keys
[14:11] <evergreen> my multimedia keys [play/pause-next-prv-mute-volUP-volDOWN] not work please help me.
[14:12] <TuquiTuqui> does pastebinit only work with already created text files? can I not paste text into the terminal?
[14:12] <k1l_> TuquiTuqui: you can pipe to pastbinit
[14:12] <TJ-> gartral: Thing is, everything I've seen in your config is as it ought to be, so from boot the /dev/sa3 should be seen as a LUKS-encrypted partition by udev (which calls blkid to find out) which runs cryptsetup-udev which should create a new LUKS header using a new key from /dev/random, open it and put that device at /dev/mapper/cryptswap1, then do "mkswap /dev/mapper/cryptswap1" and "swapon /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"
[14:13] <Fuchs> TuquiTuqui:   foo | pastebinit     should paste the output of foo
[14:13] <TuquiTuqui> k1l_: how?
[14:13] <TuquiTuqui> oh ok let me try
[14:14] <TuquiTuqui> Didn't work. How do I use the "foo" part?
[14:15] <gartral> TJ-: if you want I'm fairly certain I can reliably walk you through the exact steps to reproduce it behavior
[14:15] <TuquiTuqui> do I type "foo [whole lot of text here] | pastebin -b http://pastebin.org?
[14:17] <auronandace> TuquiTuqui: pastebinit not pastebin
[14:17] <TJ-> gartral: I'm researching why the package set-up of ecryptfs-utils is reporting the 'no-auto' thing - I can't find anything in the ecryptfs-utils files that writes that message, which suggests it is triggering something in yet another package
[14:18] <TuquiTuqui> Typo. But I typed it well in terminal and got "sorry, you're trying to upload an empty file"
[14:18] <Fuchs> TuquiTuqui: ah, you want to _type_ text
[14:19] <gartral> TJ-: you want my swap's header to disect?
[14:19] <Fuchs> TuquiTuqui: echo "Whatever text foo bar bla" | pastebinit
[14:19] <Fuchs> TuquiTuqui: I thought you were trying to get the output of a program (I took foo as an example) to pastebin, that's a very common usecase
[14:19] <TuquiTuqui> Fuchs: what about the ouput of a terminal command?
[14:20] <TuquiTuqui> I mean, a terminal command that already finished
[14:20] <Fuchs> TuquiTuqui: well, technically you could copy & paste that command and use echo
[14:20] <TJ-> gartral: I don't think that will make a difference, unless there's something always overwriting  /dev/sda3 with a swap instead of using cryptswap1
[14:21] <OerHeks> TuquiTuqui, something like:   df -h | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:21] <ircmaxell> I'm debating installing on my 7,2 macbook air. Everything works great on liveusb except for suspend (crashes when opening lid). I've yet to find stability info for 7,2, so a bit worried, any experience with it?