[05:59] <tomaj> thomasamoht play neverwinter nights
[05:59] <bonbon> i don't seem to have synaptic on my comp :/
[05:59] <tomaj> thomasamoht it ams the leet
[05:59] <tomaj> lol bonbon
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> bonbon, are you using ubuntu ?
[06:00] <thomasamoht> lathropwells i tried that didn't work at all.
[06:00] <[linner] > bonbon of course you do
[06:00] <intelikey> bonbon me either.
[06:00] <tomaj> system > administrator > synaptic
[06:00] <german> [linner] , ewhat login are u using?? Gnome or KDE
[06:00] <tomaj> bonbon system > administrator > synaptic
[06:00] <dooglus> anyone know a website that will tell me the nearest place I can buy cigarettes at 6am?
[06:00] <[linner] > KDE
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> dooglus, ebay
[06:00] <thomasamoht> it wouldn't compile at all even with the chroot
[06:00] <bonbon> i found it, it was hiding :0
[06:00] <bonbon> i just used the terminal
[06:00] <tomaj> dooglus: iwanttodieyoung.com
[06:00] <thomasamoht> 7/11 ?
[06:00] <dooglus> tomaj: it's too late for that!
[06:00] <bonbon> tomaj, thanx
[06:00] <smerch> hi, is motif included in the ubuntu cd? thanks!
[06:00] <LathropWells> thomasamoht, - If you are new to linux subscribe to cedega for a bit. - it is easier to use and you can always go back to regular wine
[06:00] <[linner] > german:  then it loads the desktop, the panel, etc...
[06:01] <[linner] > german:  and then freezes
[06:01] <intelikey> dooglus google.com
[06:01] <psusi> 2 gigs copied
[06:01] <tomaj> dooglus: rushmydeath.com
[06:01] <Shadowpillar> why is the upgrade process trying to remove totem?
[06:01] <thomasamoht> i'll give cedega a try..
[06:01] <tomaj> dooglus do you have to be dificult lol
[06:01] <Shadowpillar> question
[06:01] <tkup> how does one submit a program for inclusion in the ubuntu distro?
[06:01] <thomasamoht> i'm not that new
[06:01] <Shadowpillar> what kernel does breezy use?
[06:01] <tomaj> thomasamoht it sucks
[06:01] <[linner] > german:  now it says KDE is up and running... but it's frozen
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> tkup, #ubuntu-devel
[06:01] <dooglus> tomaj: both domains are free...
[06:01] <tomaj> 2.6.12 shadowpillar
[06:01] <tkup> wickedpuppy, thanks
[06:01] <psusi> Shadowpillar, 2.6.12
[06:01] <[linner] > german:  this sucks major butt
[06:01] <thomasamoht> i used to run suse a while ago
[06:01] <tomaj> lol dooglus you should start a business
[06:02] <malv> where can I find out how to get my wireless chipset working with ubuntu
[06:02] <malv> its a usb rt2500
[06:02] <german> [linner] , what ubuntu 're u running 5.04??
[06:02] <dooglus> tomaj: I'm not sure it would be legal
[06:02] <tomaj> doglus: this is how great ideas start you know, bunch of geeks on irc making jokes
[06:02] <thomasamoht> ooooooooo usb wireless
[06:02] <thomasamoht> toughie
[06:02] <_Dez> Everytime i go to shutdown
[06:02] <_Dez> it logout of my user
[06:02] <_Dez> then goes to root
[06:02] <[linner] > german:  i don't know... i think so.... it's an older disc for sure
[06:02] <tomaj> dooglus you're only providing information about shops that sell ciggies at certain hours
[06:02] <tomaj> dooglus its only information
[06:02] <thomasamoht> yo can anybody explain to me why everytime i boot up, i need to reconfigure my network?
[06:02] <thomasamoht> lol
[06:03] <[linner] > german:  i just downloaded breezy but the thing is i don't know how to get the original ubuntu and now kubuntu off my system
[06:03] <dooglus> tomaj: oh, i see.  I was thinking I would be providing a more general "early death" service
[06:03] <Agrajag> can't you just upgrade from the CD?
[06:03] <Shadowpillar> what kernel does breezy use?
[06:03] <psusi> [linner] , just install breezy over them
[06:03] <thomasamoht> linner just partition the disks you installed them on
[06:03] <psusi> Shadowline, two people answered you already... 2.6.12
[06:03] <tomaj> dooglus: well that can be for members only you could start an assasination site
[06:03] <dooglus> tomaj: assisting the suicidal.  problem is, the only word-of-mouth advertising you get is from customers who you failed
[06:03] <intelikey> init 6  is  finishing without halt _Dez    but i have no clue why.
[06:03] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  I did... but i have multiple choices at the GRUB loader
[06:03] <tomaj> dooglus then also get assasinatemyself.com and link to it too
[06:03] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  it doesn't look like it deleted the previous version
[06:04] <_Dez> intelikey mine uses init 2
[06:04] <german> [linner] , thomasamoht is right, then format you disk
[06:04] <tomaj> dooglus: hahahahahaha you could force them to put you in their will
[06:04] <tomaj> and then tip the media of your own services
[06:04] <Shadowpillar> psusi: okay
[06:04] <Shadowpillar> psusi: and it's shadowpillar
[06:04] <opnsrcsft> hey all
[06:04] <psusi> ahh goody, tar copied 4.8 gigs for me
[06:04] <thomasamoht> linner, unless you have a partition on the disk you want to keep, completely nuke the disk, and it will write over grub
[06:04] <intelikey> not when you shut down _Dez
[06:04] <[linner] > german:  isn't that what it does automatically after it partitioins?
[06:04] <SPCcrow> what is a good program for watching Divx videos on ubuntu?
[06:04] <[linner] > partitions
[06:04] <opnsrcsft> wow, big channel
[06:04] <thomasamoht> SPCcrow get xine
[06:04] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  I do... i have windows on the other side that I use for work
[06:04] <thomasamoht> xine is the shit.
[06:04] <tomaj> dooglus: i can tell bob2 isnt here because he would have kicked us long ago for this convo
[06:04] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  so that has to stay
[06:04] <Shadowpillar> psusi: any reason why ubuntu keeps avoiding downloading it from cd?
[06:04] <psusi> it looks like it ignored my --exclude though
[06:04] <psusi> annoying...
[06:05] <_Dez> only cmd that works correctly is sudo reboot
[06:05] <thomasamoht> umm you could edit the grub config.
[06:05] <tomaj> dooglus: you could tip the media of your services then offer them free service as a thank you
[06:05] <jrsims> is there a way to make Gnome remember window positions?
[06:05] <dooglus> tomaj: not only bob2; any op I should think.
[06:05] <blank> yay I'm done installing everyone! I'm updating right now! :D
[06:05] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  i don't know how to do that... let me burn the new breezy iso and see if you can walk me through it
[06:05] <WBMJ> Ineed some help
[06:05] <[linner] > blank:  consider yourself lucky my friend
[06:05] <tomaj> dooglus: good point but ive only felt the wrath of bob2
[06:05] <LathropWells> xine, ogle,mplayer, xmms, and my favorite basic player VLC   videolan
[06:05] <blank> :) :) :)
[06:05] <german> [linner] , if you have a windows partition leave it, but format the partition fotr breezy
[06:05] <intelikey> _Dez did you try 'sudo /etc/init.d/halt ' ?
[06:06] <tomaj> speaking of which, does anyone know of a good color picking program that isnt gimp?
[06:06] <[linner] > german:  how do i do that?
[06:06] <thomasamoht> i dunno linner i usually just nuke all my partitions cause all my music/vids/files are backed up onto another computer
[06:06] <blank> I have a whole new HD now! I can install like...all these things! :D :D :D
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> [linner] , you didn't install the linux on ya computer ... did you ?
[06:06] <dooglus> tomaj: for picking colours off the screen like an eyedropper tool?
[06:06] <psusi> well, off I go to boot off the new ext2 partition and see how fast it is compared to resiserfs
[06:06] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  yeah i did...
[06:06] <tomaj> dooglus no just picking a color from the range and it giving me the hex of it for webdesigning
[06:06] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  on a second partition
[06:06] <blank> hey isn't there a window manager/theme that is run by OpenGL?
[06:06] <thomasamoht> ext3 you mean?
[06:06] <_Dez> still does to root shell intelikey
[06:06] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  yes
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> [linner] , you did ? then the process is still the same ...
[06:06] <thomasamoht> don't install the root onto an ext2.
[06:07] <tomaj> blank yes there is let me get the link
[06:07] <german> [linner] , you sould need a swap partition too (ask abput that, i have one, but don know in a laptop)
[06:07] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  what do you mean?
[06:07] <intelikey> thomasamoht and why not?
[06:07] <[linner] > german:  i had a swap partition
[06:07] <tomaj> well blank it uses the gpu only pretty much
[06:07] <[linner] > german:  actually still do
[06:07] <thomasamoht> because its not journalled
[06:07] <[linner] > thomasamoht:  huh?
[06:08] <tomaj> blank http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:M4e-wHfL0_8J:www.enlightenment.org/+enlightenment&hl=en
[06:08] <thomasamoht> if you shut it off wrong/power outage, there is no recovery method
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> [linner] , back up everything ... and install brezzy over the old linux .. and put back ya data .. simple
[06:08] <tomaj> blank enlightenment.org doesnt seem to work for me
[06:08] <tomaj> blank it's still in early stages though
[06:08] <thechitowncubs> my capture card seems to be supported by tvtime but I can't tell if its working properly, what can I look at to see log messages from it?
[06:08] <thechitowncubs> its an SAA7134 decoder
[06:08] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  back up everything?  on windows???  that partition shouldn't be touched so there should be any back up necessary
[06:08] <blank> tomaj: oh okay thanks :)
[06:08] <[linner] > wickedpuppy:  it's only the linux part that i've got a problem with... AGAIN!
[06:08] <intelikey> no but you probably don't want to recover the 49% of that file you were saving anyway.....
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> [linner] , then install breezy over the second partition ...
[06:09] <SPCcrow> does gmplayer do divx?
[06:09] <german> haha
[06:09] <LathropWells> thechitown - hi, - having a struggle with a saa7133 card here.
[06:09] <thomasamoht> all mplayer does divx
[06:09] <SPCcrow> cool
[06:09] <thomasamoht> but mplayer is messy
[06:09] <thomasamoht> xine is good trust me
[06:09] <thomasamoht> k or don't listen to me..
[06:09] <thomasamoht> :l
[06:09] <rabeldable> anyone know of a media player that will search through the internet for people streaming music?
[06:09] <dooglus> tomaj: what about "kcoloredit - a color palette editor and color picker for KDE" ?
[06:10] <thomasamoht> search the internet...
[06:10] <tomaj> thanx dooglus i'll try it
[06:10] <bonbon> rabeldable,  it's called live365.com
[06:10] <bonbon> internet radio dude :)
[06:10] <El-Presidente> hello, I have setup postfix with courier imap and pop3 however when I use an email client to send an email I get any email back saying it could not be delivered, however if I telnet to the smtp server on my server I can send mail.. any ideas?
[06:10] <[linner] > if this keeps up, i'm going to have to try suse
[06:10] <german> [linner] , there is an option to format the partition, then it should work (I installed my ubuntu 4 times)
[06:10] <dooglus> thomasamoht: messy?  what do you mean?
[06:10] <intelikey> yes i like kcoloredit.
[06:10] <thomasamoht> rabelable try shoutcast. its good.
[06:10] <rabeldable> linner... whats wrong?
[06:10] <[linner] > german:  i thought i chose that the lst time
[06:10] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, what have you found out?
[06:10] <thomasamoht> mplayer is dirty man.
[06:10] <rabeldable> shoutcast runs on linux?
[06:10] <[linner] > rabeldable:  more like what ISN'T wrong
[06:10] <rabeldable> hehe
[06:10] <bonbon> i've started using itunes in windows for subscribing to podcasts
[06:10] <thomasamoht> shoutcast runs in lots of music programs
[06:11] <rabeldable> oh I cc
[06:11] <[linner] > rabeldable:  kubuntu freezes everytime i login
[06:11] <thomasamoht> bonbon download iPodder
[06:11] <bonbon> oooh
[06:11] <thomasamoht> u'll like that.
[06:11] <bonbon> kk
[06:11] <blank> http://tyr_7be.tripod.com/ second picture, is that beagle running on ubuntu?
[06:11] <rabeldable> what kind of system is it linner?
[06:11] <bonbon> I am quite enamoured with itunes
[06:11] <[linner] > rabeldable:  i couldn't get ubuntu base to even get to a login point... so i tried to install kubuntu
[06:11] <thomasamoht> itunes is gay.
[06:11] <bonbon> is that one i can apt-get?
[06:11] <thomasamoht> amarok will manage ur ipod
[06:11] <bonbon> well, xmms doesn't work well
[06:12] <thomasamoht> bonbon. use amarok.
[06:12] <skalpel> can someone tell me the keyboard shortcut to change my screen resolution?
[06:12] <thomasamoht> :
[06:12] <thomasamoht> :)
[06:12] <bonbon> and I don't have an IPOD i have MuVo from Creative
[06:12] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs, - the module loads and i can configure different switches for it to load with but nothing plays
[06:12] <thomasamoht> OOOOOOOOOOOOOo bonbon
[06:12] <[linner] > rabeldable:  READY?  It's a Compaq v2000z with an AMD Turion 64, 2 GB Ram with a Broadcom WLAN and ATI 200M video card
[06:12] <thomasamoht> i have a creative zen micro
[06:12] <thomasamoht> :)
[06:12] <thomasamoht> download gnomad2
[06:12] <bonbon> kewl, I'm too poor atm
[06:12] <opnsrcsft> how do I change the default font size for Ubuntu?
[06:12] <opnsrcsft> I just installed it
[06:12] <thomasamoht> or the other one
[06:12] <intelikey> somebody said beep music player
[06:12] <bonbon> would like to try a zen micro
[06:12] <[linner] > rabeldable:  all the no-no's ... that one shouldn't have when trying to load linux
[06:12] <opnsrcsft> and it's way too small
[06:12] <thomasamoht> bon bon they are nice.
[06:13] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, what is the module, is it built in ubuntu?
[06:13] <rabeldable> what kind of monitor?
[06:13] <bonbon> I wish my video card supported resolutions highter than 1024
[06:13] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs, - i got the module from bytesex.com site
[06:13] <thomasamoht> lol!
[06:13] <[linner] > rabeldable:  it's a laptop... so it's a flat panel
[06:13] <rabeldable> i just got ubuntu to run on a new toshiba M65-S9065 laptop...
[06:13] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, alright
[06:13] <opnsrcsft> ????
[06:13] <opnsrcsft> 17 inch
[06:13] <LathropWells> binary
[06:13] <Myrtti> bonbon: your video card or your screen?
[06:13] <opnsrcsft> but everything is so small
[06:13] <opnsrcsft> How do i change it?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> are you running gnome?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> go to preferences
[06:14] <RedRose> if i want to delete a bunch of files from my system, would it be rm -rf /<here>*
[06:14] <bonbon> Myrtti,  I can't get is to run in a larger size
[06:14] <RedRose> ?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> then screen resolution
[06:14] <bonbon> the slider won't go past 1024
[06:14] <Myrtti> RedRose: NO!
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> uhm....
[06:14] <bonbon> it is a laptop though, 15-inch screen
[06:14] <skalpel> does anyone know the refresh rates for an ic power 19" flat screen monitor? i cannot find it anywhere on the net
[06:14] <rabeldable> linner:  try this link I wrote some documentation for what I had to do to get my laptop to work with Xorg.
[06:14] <RedRose> Myrtti:Lol, i ment here as in file
[06:14] <rabeldable> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=476609&postcount=112
[06:14] <RedRose> but what do you suggest?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> i'm runnint at 1280x1024
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> actually I found font
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> thanks
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> It's under system
[06:14] <opnsrcsft> thanks
[06:14] <Myrtti> be careful what ever you do
[06:14] <blank> can beagle run on ubuntu?
[06:14] <thomasamoht> o
[06:14] <thomasamoht> no prob
[06:14] <[linner] > rabeldable:  i'll try anything at this point... let me go take a look
[06:14] <thomasamoht> beagle..
[06:15] <Myrtti> brb
[06:15] <RedRose> Myrtti:Ok, I'll Admit it, I did that and it crashed, caught it, but not before it ate the init.d
[06:15] <opnsrcsft> There we go
[06:15] <opnsrcsft> Now I need to figure how to configure Xchat
[06:15] <bonbon> does anyone know a site that can tell me how to properly mount partitions?
[06:15] <thomasamoht> xchat doesn't take any configureing man
[06:15] <thomasamoht> :l
[06:15] <bonbon> like I made a big partition
[06:15] <Myrtti> RedRose: now what exactly are you trying to delete
[06:16] <bonbon> to share media files between windows and linux
[06:16] <skalpel> can someone tell me where 'vertrefresh' and horizsync' go in my xorg.conf file?
[06:16] <thomasamoht> bonbon
[06:16] <bonbon> and I don't remember how to mount
[06:16] <thomasamoht> join #mount
[06:16] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs - if you have any inspiration let me know. i am thinking an external tuner would have better reception and hauppage seems to be best supported.
[06:16] <bonbon> gracias
[06:16] <RedRose> libssh
[06:16] <german> skalpel, let me take a look
[06:16] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, alright.
[06:16] <thomasamoht> bonbon #mount
[06:16] <Myrtti> why?
[06:16] <thomasamoht> now
[06:16] <opnsrcsft> :(
[06:16] <opnsrcsft> So I can't increase font size on Xchat?
[06:16] <opnsrcsft> it has to stay small?
[06:16] <tomaj> dooglus that was exactly what i was looking for thanx heaps
[06:16] <[linner] > rabeldable:  very impressive
[06:16] <RedRose> cause there's a conflict in hydra, so i want to purge all the files, then reinstall it
[06:16] <Myrtti> don't do it that way
[06:17] <rabeldable> i took me all night with trying many different configs to get it to work
[06:17] <[linner] > rabeldable:  so... i'll try it again... i'll write over everything with breezy... have to burn the ISO... will you be on for a while?
[06:17] <RedRose> how would i delete files that are scattered all around like that?
[06:17] <rabeldable> but i'm using it now and it works great
[06:17] <intelikey> skalpel if you use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '  it will put them in the correct place
[06:17] <[linner] > rabeldable:  unfortunately, i don't have that luxury tonight... i have to work in the morning :(
[06:17] <Myrtti> I need more coffee...
[06:17] <rabeldable> probably not
[06:17] <[linner] > rabeldable:  what wlan do you have?
[06:17] <skalpel> intelikey: thank you
[06:17] <malv> well, had to hack one line in the source code, but I got the usb wireless driver to compile
[06:17] <RedRose> Myrtti:LOL
[06:17] <rabeldable> email me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:17] <malv> this is a great day for mankind
[06:17] <intelikey> skalpel np
[06:17] <RedRose> Myrtti:Do You know any way?
[06:18] <tomaj> rabeldable: are you that desperate to meet people?
[06:18] <[linner] > rabeldable:  you're a dear... thank you so much!
[06:18] <Myrtti> RedRose: yup, but that might result in dependency problems
[06:18] <[linner] > tomaj:  easy... he's helping me
[06:18] <tomaj> linner: humor
[06:18] <[linner] > tomaj:  is that what that was??? *grin*
[06:18] <opnsrcsft> uhm... no fonts on X-chat
[06:18] <blank> anyone know any good 'milky white' themes for gnome?\
[06:18] <rabeldable> oh yeah i'm a regular irc whore
[06:18] <RedRose> ok, what if it's not a file like that, but let's say a log file
[06:18] <[linner] > rabeldable:  heheheeh...
[06:18] <skalpel> how much is 256mb in kb?
[06:19] <RedRose> just in general how would i delete a bunch of files like that?
[06:19] <[linner] > by the way rabeldable... i called you dear because I'm a girl :)  so don't take offense :)
[06:19] <rabeldable> i don't know what type of wlan card I have, I think its intel but i have to check and i'm in the middle of some other things
[06:19] <blank> does beagle the search thing run on ubuntu, I mean, can it
[06:19] <Myrtti> well with logfiles you wouldn't do it with apt-get remove --purge <program>
[06:19] <RedRose> i know...
[06:19] <[linner] > rabeldable:  that's ok... mine is a big no-no linux card... broadcom :(
[06:19] <RedRose> i know about apt-get --purge...
[06:19] <rabeldable> no problem...
[06:19] <RedRose> but i am talking about if there wasn't apt
[06:19] <cnoles> I can't get o the net from ubuntu
[06:19] <shadowlands> greetings world, can anyone anwser a sound related question on ubuntu please?
[06:20] <rabeldable> it might work linux has came a long way its really good
[06:20] <cnoles> any ideas
[06:20] <Myrtti> try to be more precise with the path to the files that you are trying to delete
[06:20] <Myrtti> with rm -rf
[06:20] <dooglus> tomaj: did you see the colour selector in 'inkscape'?  that's quite nice too
[06:20] <german> skalpel, Section "Monitor"
[06:20] <german> 	Identifier	"SyncMaster"
[06:20] <german> 	Option		"DPMS"
[06:20] <german> 	VertRefresh 	50-160
[06:20] <german> 	HorizSync 	30-70
[06:20] <german> EndSection
[06:20] <RedRose> yeah, i'vve learned that
[06:20] <garyc> hello folks
[06:20] <Myrtti> thank you
[06:20] <_Dez> im running server shell how do i get it to load startx
[06:20] <_Dez> when it boots
[06:20] <Myrtti> try pastebin next time
[06:20] <RedRose> i'm reinstalling my system now
[06:20] <garyc> I am configuring my router
[06:20] <opnsrcsft> How do I make Ubuntu support a higher refresh rate
[06:20] <concept10> anyone experience 100% CPU spikes when browsing flash sites in firefox?
[06:20] <opnsrcsft> it only supports 60
[06:20] <Myrtti> ubotu, tell opnsrcsft about xorg
[06:21] <gord_> 100% cpu spiking isn't anything to be worried about
[06:21] <tomaj> dooglus: i dont use inkscape on linux
[06:21] <dooglus> tomaj: ok
[06:21] <Myrtti> <3 inkscape
[06:21] <german> sorry i can't help you [linner]
[06:21] <opnsrcsft> where do I get Xorg?
[06:21] <cnoles> can I get some networking help? I am unable to ping my router (or do much of any thing else  :{(}
[06:22] <tomaj> yeah inkscape is leet i just use in on windows because i have photoshop in windows
[06:22] <shadowlands> hey cnoles, whats the ip#
[06:22] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, HOLY SHIT
[06:22] <tomaj> opnsrcsft its on your computer already if you use ubuntu
[06:22] <cnoles> ip of?
[06:22] <dooglus> opnsrcsft: use 'apt-get' or 'synaptic' to get 'xserver-xorg'
[06:22] <cnoles> the router
[06:22] <garyc> german, I am configuring my router to do ftp port 20 - can you help
[06:22] <cnoles> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:22] <LathropWells> cnoles - what type of connection? what type of connection hardware?
[06:22] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, it f'ing works, i got my camera plugged in through composite
[06:22] <opnsrcsft> thanks
[06:22] <shadowlands> what you want pinged
[06:22] <intelikey> hmmm ub has my cdrom drive fubar'd ..... it wont eject and it wont mount...
[06:23] <cnoles> umm
[06:23] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs - Nice!
[06:23] <german> garyc, I'm sorry I can't but someone here must know
[06:23] <cnoles> 3c0m nic ...network everywhere router (linksys)
[06:23] <rabeldable> what kind of router garyc?
[06:23] <shadowlands> cnoles, you realise thet the 192 series is on your local network and not the www
[06:23] <cnoles> yes
[06:23] <[linner] > german:  no dear... it
[06:24] <[linner] > german:  it's fine... really... i've been having these problems since i was first introduced to Ubuntu
[06:24] <garyc> rabeldable, Linksys
[06:24] <DR_K13> lol inst
[06:24] <shadowlands> how many machines do you have on your lan?
[06:24] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs - did you find a helpful HowTo"?
[06:24] <cnoles> but I cannot even ping my network that is the problem. I am on our other computer right now
[06:24] <[linner] > german:  i was hoping that Breezy would fix it.... it hasn't I don't think.  We'll see... I'm burning a new ISO.  Thanks though!
[06:24] <rabeldable> are you trying to ftp to your router? or ftp through your router to some other system?
[06:24] <german> [linner] , keep trying
[06:25] <cnoles> 2
[06:25] <[linner] > german:  oh i will... i believe in the product... and I believe even more in the community!!! :)
[06:25] <cnoles> 2machines on my lan if that was to me
[06:25] <ale8one> hey, has anyone had problems with installing x86-64 dvd iso on dual boot? grub takes forever to boot and ubuntu never loads?
[06:25] <[linner] > german:  my goal is to get rid of windoze all together an run linux.... ubuntu specifically
[06:25] <nalioth> [linner] : howdy
[06:25] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, it worked out of the FRICKING BOX
[06:25] <intelikey> what kind of crap is this? E: Package bc has no installation candidate
[06:25] <thechitowncubs> this is sooooooooooooooo amazing
[06:25] <german> [linner] , yeah, is awesome, thats my goal to!!
[06:25] <blank> anyone know of a program that lets you convert AVI files to DVD format so you can watch them on a dvd player?
[06:26] <LathropWells> thechitowncubs - That is Outstanding! :)
[06:26] <crimsun> intelikey: it's in main
[06:26] <[linner] > nalioth:  hello honey! :)
[06:26] <[linner] > german:  i'm glad to hear it :)
[06:26] <[linner] > nalioth:  what's up dude? :)
[06:26] <german> [linner] , but i'm new to linux (used to run mandrake) so it will be a long journey
[06:27] <german> [linner] , hahahah
[06:27] <garyc> rabeldable, on the port forward page there are two boxes  "blank to blank" like it is a range.  I thought it was just port 20
[06:27] <intelikey> ah yeah and it's got my cd drive fubar'd so no main.....  mehh
[06:27] <[linner] > german:  I'm not used to anything linux... so we're in the journey together!
[06:27] <LathropWells> crimsun AND nalioth a lot of computer setup problems are going to be solved.
[06:27] <nalioth> LathropWells: whose computer?
[06:27] <LathropWells> Hi guys!
[06:27] <german> [linner] , excellent!!
[06:27] <[linner] > german:  :)
[06:27] <rabeldable> ftp is port 21
[06:28] <german> [linner] , cos i don'k know a lot of people here that ru Ubuntu...
[06:28] <skalpel_> can someone tell me what section 'vertrefresh' and 'horozsync' go under in my xorg.conf file?
[06:28] <[linner] > german:  where's "here"?
[06:28] <LathropWells> Can i nalioth "Audit" your professorial level class?
[06:28] <german> [linner] ,  here is Lima-Per!!
[06:28] <LathropWells> ;)
[06:28] <rabeldable> did you try the monitor section? skalpel_
[06:28] <intelikey> ah i finnally got atapi reset...
[06:28] <[linner] > german:  this is the best user group in the world... not exaggerating either... everyone here helps each other
[06:28] <garyc> cnoles, hey I just had to power my router and cable modem down then power up the modem wait then power up the router
[06:29] <[linner] > german:  oh wow!!!  I'm in the USA...
[06:29] <crimsun> skalpel_: Section "Monitor", as rabeldable said
[06:29] <german> [linner] , hope you know where Lima - Peru is
[06:29] <german> [linner] , hahhaa
[06:29] <[linner] > german:  Of course!  Though I don't do well with most geography... I do know where Lima is.
[06:29] <german> [linner] , where in Usa?
[06:29] <nalioth> LathropWells: i'm not following you, perhaps you could explain to me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:29] <garyc> cnoles, also I had to push the reset button on the router
[06:29] <cnoles> hmmm.. I am on the windows machinre here and I can see my puter on the dhcp client table
[06:29] <[linner] > german:  California....
[06:30] <cnoles> I did reset the router
[06:30] <LathropWells> nalioth - er - that was a weak try at humor - nvm - Glad you are here.
[06:30] <german> [linner] , it must be beatifull, have you evere traveled yto south america??
[06:30] <intelikey> how much differance in mawk and gawk ?
[06:31] <[linner] > german:  why don't you join #ubuntu-offtopic... we'll talk about it there... ok?
[06:31] <[linner] > german:  they like to stay on topic here
[06:31] <german> [linner] , ok
[06:31] <[linner] > :)
[06:31] <rabeldable> thanks linner
[06:31] <crimsun> intelikey: mawk tends to be smaller & faster
[06:31] <[linner] > rabeldable:  of course :)
[06:32] <intelikey> crimsun at the expence of some functionality ?
[06:32] <crimsun> intelikey: yes, due to compile-time configuration
[06:32] <cnoles> but trying to ping the ubunto box from this machine times out
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, THIS IS REALLY COOL
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> LathropWells, have you tried installing tvtime?
[06:32] <intelikey> cause i'v got a calculator i wrote in gawk but when it uses mawk it craps out on me...
[06:33] <rabeldable> it probably has something to do with the special characters intelikey
[06:33] <crimsun> intelikey: mawk doesn't support all the gnu extensions to 1003.2
[06:34] <Knelix2> Guys, -
[06:34] <skalpel_> how do i rename a file?
[06:34] <intelikey> yes that would probably be it.
[06:34] <dducko> skalpel, mv
[06:34] <nemik> so has anyone installed skype successfully?
[06:34] <nemik> i get an unmet dependency
[06:34] <rabeldable> you don't rename files in *nix you move them with mv
[06:34] <dducko> skalpel, mv currentname newname
[06:34] <intelikey> skalpel mv file newname
[06:35] <intelikey> rabeldable which in affect only renames them anyway....  :)
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> actually awk seems to have mawk , gawk , nawk .... sed has sed .... weird huh ?
[06:36] <Knelix2> Guys, I've got a small problem here. I am using an Nvidia GForce card with RCA video output... I want it to automatically mirror to the TV output, because I need to use the monitor for something else. Now all text at bootup and shutdown shows up fine on the TV, but at startup, right after all the text, in fact just at the NVIDIA logo, the TV output switches off. What is going on, and how could I remedy this?
[06:37] <DR_K13> bad tv?
[06:37] <Knelix2> DR_K13: I don't think so.
[06:38] <DR_K13> was a joke,  a bad one at that
[06:38] <skalpel_> does anyone happen to know the refresh rates for an ic power 19" flatscreen monitor?
[06:38] <rabeldable> intelikey: true... I suppose someone could setup an alias called rename that actually runs the mv command
[06:38] <Knelix2> It seems an odd coincidence that it stops outputting at the first graphic... oh, ha...
[06:39] <intelikey> funtion rename {mv $* }
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> rabeldable, and you run 'rename file' and the file disappeared ... then how ?
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> eh wait
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> there will be error then
[06:39] <Knelix2> Could this be a limitation of the NVIDIA driver, or what? Should I revert to another driver, or maybe modify driver settings?
[06:41] <intelikey> Knelix2 welcome to linux where you own your software not just rent a license to use it....
[06:41] <rabeldable> well hopefully if you only put one argument the output would be like this:
[06:41] <rabeldable> root@dlap:/tmp# mv file
[06:41] <rabeldable> mv: missing file argument
[06:41] <rabeldable> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[06:41] <Knelix2> intelikey: Heh, so I know.
[06:42] <blank> this happened when I opened an AVI file
[06:42] <Knelix2> But this one does not strike me as so tough of an issue, simply because it DOES output to the TV at startup.
[06:42] <blank> well, it said that I needed plugins
[06:42] <blank> anyone know what plugins i need to play avi files
[06:42] <wickedpuppy> blank, get vlc
[06:42] <blank> package name
[06:42] <blank> ?
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> vlc ?
[06:43] <blank> :)
[06:43] <deFrysk> vlc yes
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> blank, sudo apt-cache search vlc
[06:43] <deFrysk> !info vlc
[06:43] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> search there first ... or synaptic ...
[06:43] <intelikey> sudo to search ?????
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> no need sudo ?
[06:44] <LathropWells> Knelix - i really know very little about sending output to a TV only that the refresh rate has to be set perfectly or strange things happen. (possibly damaging your TV)
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> normally i use sudo for all apt-*
[06:44] <EdLin> wickedlester, apt-cache doesn't need sudo
[06:44] <deFrysk> wickedpuppy, no need sudo
[06:44] <intelikey> no not to search or show
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[06:44] <intelikey> only need sudo to install or remove
[06:45] <deFrysk> search is not an administrative task
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> hmms .. that means my fingers are good at typing sudo ... not good
[06:46] <derekS> does ubuntu come with a graphical cron wizard?
[06:47] <intelikey> one would certenly expect so
[06:47] <dirkson> Hey all. I'm trying to recompile my kernel and getting a funky error message my nvidia card. (Says it can't load the nvidia module, but I compiled the kernel with all the nvidia modules I could find) Could anyone help me out? :-/
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> there is kcron
[06:47] <dirkson> *error message with my nvidia
[06:47] <Knelix2> hmm.
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> also gcrontab
[06:48] <rabeldable> did you download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website?
[06:48] <Knelix2> Its seems to output fine in terminal mode. It's just X that doesn't show.
[06:48] <dirkson> Hmm....... No. Do I need to? *grin*
[06:48] <solidgroove> how long is ubuntu going to make me use nvidia 7667?
[06:48] <rabeldable> yeah they have an updated one on their webste
[06:48] <rabeldable> you need to download it and read the docs
[06:48] <derekS> wickedpuppy: thanks
[06:49] <rabeldable> nvidia has good linux support
[06:49] <dirkson> Ok. That might help. Any chance you know about how big it is? My internet connection will barf if I try to download anything over about 1 meg. (This is why I need to recompile)
[06:49] <EdLin> solidgroove, until you install the nvidia-legacy packages. :-)
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> np derekS
[06:49] <rabeldable> its like 1 - 5 MB
[06:49] <Knelix2> Newbie Question: I use the terminal, but usually in X. Toi run a new process I just open a new terminal window, but how can you run to processes in terminal mode?
[06:49] <rabeldable> small
[06:49] <solidgroove> EdLin, where can I get nvidia-legacy?
[06:49] <Knelix2> (console mode)
[06:49] <tsume> wow. I didn't realize qemu was faster than vmware for cases of using it for photoshop or photoimpact
[06:49] <tsume> vmware's redraw support just really sucks
[06:49] <rabeldable> nvidia has old stuff on the same site
[06:49] <Knelix2> *two proceses, that is
[06:50] <dirkson> Ok. Looks like I'll be booting into that other OS to download it. Drat. Thanks for the info guys!!
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, &
[06:50] <rabeldable> just go to their website and in the search put linux
[06:50] <EdLin> solidgroove, it's in the standard Ubuntu repositories.
[06:50] <tsume> dirkson: Microsoft Windows?
[06:50] <tsume> dirkson: ME? :D
[06:51] <dirkson> Tsume: Micro$ucks Windoze xp. It runs my internet card natively, and will download large files with it
[06:51] <Knelix2> so typing: sudo /home/Knelix/Desktop/gabe/FAH502-Linux.exe & /home/gabe/Desktop/Knelix/BOINC/run_client
[06:51] <Knelix2> Will run both those apps?
[06:51] <dirkson> I need to update to 2.6.13 at least to get good support for my card.
[06:51] <Knelix2> At the same time?
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, exe ?
[06:52] <EdLin> solidgroove, linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`-nvidia-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:52] <nalioth> Knelix2: one after the other, yes
[06:52] <Xenguy> exactly -- digital restrictions management
[06:52] <Xenguy> ww
[06:52] <intelikey> is there a way to alter the output format of dpkg -l  so that only the package name and not the descriptions are shown ?
[06:52] <nalioth> Knelix2: if your linux is smart enough to run .exe files
[06:52] <Knelix2> wikedpuppy: yes they name it that way, but it's really a UNIX executable.
[06:52] <derekS> does this crontab command make sense: wget -q -O /dev/null \ "some website"   t get it to dl some website
[06:52] <derekS> or load it
[06:52] <derekS> but not dl it
[06:52] <Knelix2> nalioth: It runs fine normally.
[06:52] <derekS> or is there a better way
[06:52] <dirkson> Tsume: Why d'ya' ask?
[06:53] <EdLin> intelikey, maybe you could pipe it through awk using {print $1} or something. (Been a while since I played with AWK)
[06:53] <Knelix2> OK.. to get out of x I press alt-control-F3, but to get back?
[06:53] <intelikey> yeah but it keeps cuting the package names at about 12 chars.
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, alt-crtrl-f7
[06:53] <EdLin> intelikey, sorry, I forgot about that...
[06:53] <intelikey> doesn't output the full name
[06:54] <skalpel> is it possible to change my screen resolution in xwindows without knowing my monitors refresh rates, like windows does?
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, f1-f6 are terminals... f7 is X
[06:54] <garyc> I think I got it.  Who has an ftp client to test my ftp server?
[06:54] <Knelix2> wickedpuppy: Ah, right, thanks.
[06:54] <dirkson> Anyway, time to reboot and download. Bye all, and thanks
[06:54] <Knelix2> Q: when the terminal tells you you have new mail, is that e-Mail or messages from the system?
[06:55] <garyc> I think I got it.  Who has an ftp client to test my ftp server?
[06:55] <Xenguy> Knelix2: both are email
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, can be both ??
[06:55] <intelikey> Knelix2 system usually when you login
[06:55] <Knelix2> hmm.
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, type mail ... and select the number of the mail you wanna read
[06:56] <Knelix2> hmm. ok
[06:56] <garyc> I just setup my router for port forwarding.  Who would like the test it for me?
[06:56] <rabeldable> i'll test
[06:57] <nalioth> Knelix2: that is system mail, usually, use mutt to see it
[06:57] <Zealot87> can someone give me the command that allows me to add resolutions
[06:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Zealot87 about fixres
[06:57] <Knelix2> nalioth, hmm.
[06:57] <garyc> I just setup my router for port forwarding.  Who would like the test my ftp server?
[06:57] <Zealot87> thanks nalioth
[06:57] <rabeldable> whats the IP?
[06:58] <Boobek> hi/udv
[06:58] <blank> wickedpuppy: I searched for vlc, now what
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> wha real root ... not r00t or anything
[06:58] <rabeldable> garyc: IP and 'll test
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> blank, install it and run avi with it
[06:58] <nalioth> garyc: please dont repeat such off topic stuff, we are not #troubleshoot or #test_hardware
[06:58] <garyc> rabeldable, <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:58] <rabeldable> it works
[06:59] <rabeldable> root@dlap:~# ftp <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:59] <rabeldable> Connected to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[06:59] <rabeldable> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (Debian) [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[06:59] <rabeldable> Name (<IP_ADDRESS>:root):
[06:59] <garyc> rabeldable, <IP_ADDRESS>  username=agora   password=agoramin
[06:59] <rabeldable> login works too
[06:59] <nalioth> rabeldable: please dont paste in here
[07:00] <garyc> rabeldable, thanks
[07:00] <DR_K13> Superkaramba////
[07:00] <rain`> Hi, I have two sticks of memory here, I was wondering how I could tell if they are non-ecc/ecc/unbuffered if I dont have a computer to put them in..
[07:00] <blank> can I also play mp3s with it?
[07:00] <blank> :D
[07:00] <Zealot87> ahh, i missed ubuntu, its been a while
[07:00] <rabeldable> no paste?  where are the rules at? so I don't have to be told what I can and can't do.
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> blank, i think yes ... no idea ... why you wanna play mp3 in movie player ?
[07:01] <DR_K13> lol internets
[07:01] <intelikey> hmmm i was thinking that mc had a mail reader quality about it..... but i don't seem to find it now.
[07:01] <Knelix2> So, wait... I can just use one terminal in say, F1 to run one app, and another in F2 to run another?
[07:02] <intelikey> yes you can
[07:02] <Knelix2> intelikey: Ha! Why didn't you say so-- that'll do just fine!!
[07:02] <nalioth> Knelix2: if you use 'gnu screen' you can run hundreds of terminal apps in f2, or f3
[07:02] <intelikey> and if you like you can enable the higher F# in /etc/inittab
[07:03] <blank> where can I get mplayer
[07:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blank about mplayer
[07:03] <erirlar> hi, how can i change the permision on a directory to my home user?
[07:03] <intelikey> apt-get install mplayer
[07:03] <Knelix2> nalioth: I don't want to complicate matters... This is just a temporary measure because I need the monitor for my main comp, shose CRT burned out.
[07:03] <intelikey> erirlar permission or ownership ?
[07:04] <erirlar> ownership
[07:04] <intelikey> chown username:usergroup inode
[07:04] <nalioth> Knelix2: screen isn't complicated
[07:04] <Knelix2> nalioth: But thank you for the info... It has been noted. :-)
[07:04] <intelikey> need sudoer permission if you don't already own it erirlar
[07:05] <blank> I have an AMD +2500, should I get mplayer-k6 or mplayer-586
[07:05] <HrdwrBoB> k6
[07:05] <intelikey> only thing that i like about screen it the scroll buffer...
[07:05] <theturtl> sudo passwd
[07:05] <theturtl> ;)
[07:06] <erirlar> intelikey, but how can i make it to be a ownership of erirlar?
[07:06] <blank> !ubotu tell me about ati binary drivers
[07:06] <blank> or not
[07:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blank about ati
[07:07] <intelikey> erirlar  ' sudo chown username:usergroup inode '  where the words username and usergroup  are "YOU" and inode is the file/directory name.....
[07:07] <blank> thanks nalioth
[07:07] <cyphase> why doesn't audacity play sound in ubuntu?
[07:07] <erirlar> intelikey, thanks :)
[07:07] <blank> hey, I cant find mplayer (so says synaptic), is there a repository I need? In the wiki it says multiverse, but I enabled each one I have
[07:08] <nalioth> blank: it's not "mplayer" it's mplayer-k6
[07:08] <blank> yes, I did that
[07:08] <blank> sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6
[07:09] <DR_K13> huh
[07:09] <kapputu> Hi
[07:09] <cowbud> so for submiting bugs do I go to bugzilla or launchpad?
[07:09] <kapputu> how do I set the workgroup name in Ubuntu?
[07:10] <varsebegdello> hey i just installed ubuntu server, how do i get fluxbox going, i've allready downloaded it
[07:10] <intelikey> is there a good menu-driven cli mail client ?
[07:10] <buckyuser> anyone home?
[07:10] <kapputu> normally this is not silent
[07:10] <blank> I'm trying to get mplayer...please help, the wiki is very vague
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> intelikey, pine or mutt ?
[07:10] <Knelix2> Q: And all terminals will continue to work even while in another terminal or in X?
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, if you put the command in background with & yes
[07:11] <varsebegdello> blank what have you done so far?
[07:11] <intelikey> varsebegdello use 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox '   and let dpkg install it for you.
[07:11] <nalioth> blank: use synaptic. search for 'mplayer'
[07:11] <varsebegdello> what about xdm?
[07:11] <intelikey> same
[07:11] <blank> I typed sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6
[07:12] <Knelix2> wickedpuppy: huh? hmm... I didn't do that
[07:12] <blank> I already did the addingrepositorieshowto, so all my repositories are enabled, unless it wants me to have custom ones
[07:12] <intelikey> varsebegdello if you use apt it keeps all the dependancies up to par and installs/configures things for you.
[07:12] <buckyuser> new to this here - trying to configure the network and getting a backend script error
[07:13] <varsebegdello> intelikey, i did that it installed, but i don't have gdm or anything like that, all i have is bare ubuntu, (i've also installed xserver-xorg
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, then go back to that terminal and see if its running ?? why you need f3 or f4 btw .. xterm or kterm not good enough ?
[07:13] <blank> somone please help me :( It seems as if I need an extra repository for mplayer
[07:13] <kapputu> how do I access my Windows network?
[07:13] <intelikey> so use startx and see if it works or not
[07:13] <kapputu> do I have to set my workgroup?
[07:13] <blank> kapputu: I'm not sure, but lookup samba
[07:13] <varsebegdello> blank, do you ahve a repostiory that said multiverse
[07:13] <Knelix2> wikedpuppy: But these are distributed computing projects, made to run in the background by default anyway. At least folding@home app seems to be working, acording to top.
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> blank, paste ya sources.list on the pastebin
[07:14] <blank> varsebegdello: Taht's the one I'm trying to add, can you help me?
[07:14] <blank> got a link to pastebin and the address to sources.list ?
[07:14] <varsebegdello> just a seck
[07:14] <blank> sorry, I'm a noob
[07:14] <Knelix2> wickedpuppy: Because I need to output to TV, and only the terminal will do this, not X.
[07:14] <dducko> !paste
[07:14] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, if default is background then fine :P
[07:14] <intelikey> !repos
[07:14] <wickedpuppy> blank, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:14] <blank> where can I find , thanks
[07:15] <blank> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4341
[07:15] <buckyuser> can someone answer a networking question?
[07:15] <dducko> ask away
[07:16] <rabeldable> i was thinking just open a direct chat with person that you paste to
[07:16] <Knelix2> wickedpuppy: OK :-) Just to know- you type the command and then & right after it to run it in the background, right?
[07:16] <blank> wickedpuppy and varsebegdello: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4341
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> Knelix2, yes ... but default behaviour is in bg then no need
[07:16] <thomasamoht> cheers bonbon
[07:16] <buckyuser> I am trying toadd a wireless card and I get a backend script error when I go to the network configuration utikity
[07:16] <bonbon> yaay, now i just have to get wine running
[07:16] <Knelix2> ok
[07:16] <bonbon> ty thomasamoht  :D
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> yes blank .. and no there is no extra repo
[07:16] <thomasamoht> night all
[07:17] <blank> wickedpuppy: but then how come I cant find mplayer :(
[07:17] <nalioth> blank: synaptic doesnt return any hits when you search for "mplayer" ?
[07:17] <blank> nope :(
[07:17] <intelikey> just turning on multiverse now.    what is the name of the automatic "uptodate" program in ub ?
[07:18] <jgraham> i'm getting an error with libxaa, this is a fresh install of 5.10 x86-64, and my x server is wanting a version greater than 1.2... any ideas why this is happening?
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> blank, you want extra repo or asking if you have extra repo ?
[07:18] <dducko> and blank watch your caps, should all be in lowwer case
[07:18] <blank> i get mga-vid-source package but that has nothing to do lol
[07:18] <dducko> Mplayer and mplayer are not the same thing
[07:18] <blank> dducko: what caps
[07:19] <intelikey> nalioth know the name of the program that runs automatic updates ?
[07:19] <blank> wickedpuppy: I'm asking if I need an extra repos to be able to get mplayer
[07:19] <dducko> shouldnt, i believe its in the main repos
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> blank, you got universe but no multiverse ...
[07:19] <ronnyzx> join pls on #cagayan
[07:19] <ronnyzx> join pls on #cagayan
[07:19] <ronnyzx> join pls on #cagayan
[07:19] <thechitowncubs> I need some help with audio
[07:19] <ronnyzx> join pls on #cagayan
[07:19] <tritium> ronnyzx, stop it
[07:19] <blank> wickedpuppy: THat's what I mean! how do I add multiverse
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> ....
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[07:19] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[07:19] <ronnyzx> y tirtium
[07:19] <ronnyzx> y tirtium
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> ...
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> bye bye ronnyzx
[07:20] <blueblood> whats wrong with this fsb-line
[07:20] <blueblood> /mysmbserver/blueblood	/media/share	smbfs	credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777	0	0
[07:20] <thechitowncubs> I have a capture card with audio out, and i put a dongle from that to my line in, i need some help with setting up the volume
[07:20] <dducko> Bye Bye ronnyzx
[07:20] <nalioth> intelikey: i'm not familaer with it no
[07:20] <rabeldable> !rules
[07:20] <blank> wickedpuppy: I know, I already read that :( but it doesnt talk about multiverse does it
[07:20] <ubotu> rabeldable: Not a clue
[07:20] <ronnyzx> noooooooooo
[07:20] <tritium> ronnyzx, because you're flooding the channel
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> !sources
[07:20] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:20] <ronnyzx> ah ok
[07:20] <intelikey> k
[07:20] <ronnyzx> im so sory titium
[07:20] <varsebegdello> blank, do you know how to add lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:20] <kapputu> how do I enable Windows networking in 5.10?
[07:20] <ronnyzx> im so sory titium
[07:20] <ronnyzx> im so sory titium
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> no wait .. ronnyzx you are spamming as well .. and flooding ...
[07:20] <tritium> ronnyzx, please do stop
[07:21] <dducko> Bye Bye ronnyzx
[07:21] <buckyuser> can someone answer a networking question?
[07:21] <x86i> buckyuser: Go ahead
[07:21] <linuxgeek2> yes tell me buckyuser I will try my best
[07:21] <linuxgeek2> ?
[07:21] <nalioth> buckyuser: if you ask a networking question
[07:21] <ronnyzx> yah
[07:21] <rabeldable> shoot bucky.....
[07:21] <ronnyzx> i wil
[07:21] <ronnyzx> i will
[07:21] <kapputu> how do I enable Windows networking in 5.10?
[07:21] <intelikey> ohhh my i'm lagging really bad now if i say something that doesnt seem to make sense " [Lag 22]   "
[07:21] <blank> varsebegdello: :( nope
[07:21] <buckyuser> trying to get a wireless card working and I get a backend script error when I try
[07:21] <x86i> kapputu: Install Samba
[07:21] <kapputu> it's installed
[07:22] <rabeldable> whats the error?
[07:22] <x86i> kapputu: So then your having issues? what are you trying to do
[07:22] <varsebegdello> blank you'll have to know how t use a console editing program
[07:22] <blank> I use gedit
[07:22] <kapputu> I'm trying to connect to my windows machine
[07:22] <x86i> blank: I recommend JOE, its a great console editor
[07:23] <varsebegdello> hey guys can blank open a file with gedit with sudo super powers?
[07:23] <kapputu> do I need to set the password for samba?
[07:23] <varsebegdello> i prefer vi
[07:23] <blank> varsebegdello: I already have :D
[07:23] <wickedpuppy> varsebegdello, try yourself ... sudo gedit
[07:23] <buckyuser> when I click on the Network settings  it says 'configuration cannot be loaded - there was an error running the backend script'
[07:23] <varsebegdello> ohh
[07:23] <blank> I'm not that stupid lol, I just dont know where to add the lines, can I add them anywhere?
[07:23] <varsebegdello> like i said i prefer vi
[07:23] <x86i> kapputu: Yeah, you need to make sure that Samaba is on the same workgroup as your windows box.
[07:23] <intelikey> yep
[07:24] <rabeldable> who are the bots on this thing?
[07:24] <concept10> is Flashplayer 8 avail for Linux?
[07:24] <x86i> concept10: Not to my knowledge.
[07:24] <wickedpuppy> rabeldable, on what thing ?
[07:24] <blank> what's the sources address again
[07:24] <blank> /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <varsebegdello> --- i'm running on a live cd and i don't want to open another term
[07:24] <wickedpuppy> blank, use tab
[07:24] <varsebegdello> yep
[07:25] <intelikey> well be back after the update....  and the lag is back to normal 2/3 seconds....
[07:25] <varsebegdello> blank listen to wickedpuppy
[07:25] <blank> kay
[07:25] <stevejesus> whats up guys i have a wierd samba problem
[07:25] <blank> can I add the repository apt lines anywhere in my sources.list?
[07:25] <x86i> stevejesus: Whats up?
[07:25] <blank> like, at the end?
[07:26] <varsebegdello> blank ?now do you have the deb httP://blah blah breezy multiverse location?
[07:26] <wickedpuppy> stevejesus, #samba would be more appropriate for ya
[07:26] <kapputu> I can see the windows machine but I cannot see it's contents
[07:26] <varsebegdello> yeah right at the end or in the middle anywhere
[07:26] <blank> no, I already said I dont lol, I need to add it myself
[07:26] <blank> I already have the three multiverse lines
[07:26] <blank> but do I just add them at the end?
[07:26] <kapputu> The folder contents could not be displayed
[07:26] <kapputu> ERROR:: The folder contents could not be displayed
[07:26] <stevejesus> x86i:  when i try and browse my network for some reason i cant see anything but my personal file server.  it prompts me for the password as soon as i open it.  i cant see any of the other machins
[07:26] <kapputu> This is the error I'm getting
[07:26] <x86i> sounds like something in windows
[07:26] <varsebegdello> yeah that will be fine, then run apt-get update and you should be golden
[07:27] <x86i> stevejesus: Is the Samba on the same work group?
[07:27] <blank> nothing about leaving an extra line blank at the end or any of that stuff right
[07:27] <stevejesus> x86i:  well, i cant see the apple machines either...
[07:27] <blank> how can I reload or update or whatever you said
[07:27] <blank> sudo apt-get update?
[07:27] <varsebegdello> stevejesus, check the work group thing
[07:27] <buckyuser> thanks for the help....oh wait....
[07:27] <varsebegdello> blank yes
[07:27] <stevejesus> x86i:  well, i only have one windows machine on my workgroup.  i cant see it either
[07:27] <blank> kay
[07:27] <blank> :D
[07:27] <x86i> stevejesus: That was directed to someone else. are you on the same workgroup
[07:27] <rabeldable> bucky: can you manually setup your interface by adding the appropriate values to the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[07:28] <stevejesus> x86i:  well, i only have one windows machine on my workgroup.  i cant see it either
[07:28] <rabeldable> oh well he left
[07:28] <blank> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:28] <blank> I got that at the end
[07:28] <kapputu> stevejesus, I was told to install Samba
[07:28] <blank> does that mean I entered the same line twiece
[07:28] <stevejesus> x86i:  but i should be able to see all workgroups right?  there are 2 of them
[07:28] <bonbon> oy
[07:28] <kapputu> I'm not able to see the shared folders
[07:28] <varsebegdello> blank, hmmmm
[07:28] <Niomi> xorg is using an incredible amount of resources.. right now it's using 916MB of my 1gig of ram.. what can I do?
[07:28] <x86i> stevejesus: Does the windows machine have anything shared? What sort of sharing is enabled? Simple File Sharing in windows?
[07:29] <stevejesus> kapputi:  samba is installed and functional.  i am able to mount nfs, smb and even afp machines so thats not the issue
[07:29] <kapputu> x86i, I'm not able to see my Windows shares either
[07:29] <varsebegdello> blank, past bin it again
[07:29] <kapputu> ERROR:: The folder contents could not be displayed
[07:29] <varsebegdello> -- your sources.list
[07:29] <kapputu> That was the error I got
[07:29] <blank> kay
[07:29] <x86i> kapputu: What kind of sharing is enabled in windows?
[07:29] <stevejesus> x86i:  yes the windows machine is shared.  i can see it from other windows machines and also 2 osx machines and even mount it in "dave" using mac os9
[07:30] <kapputu> x86i, how do I find out?
[07:30] <x86i> stevejesus: Goto Pastebin.org and paste me your samba config
[07:30] <stevejesus> x86i:  but i dont care so much about that machine.  i want to access my roomates windows shares.
[07:30] <ilba7r> I heared there were special ubuntu editions for some of HP notebooks anyone knows where can i find a link on that
[07:30] <stevejesus> x86i:  ok
[07:30] <blank> varsebegdello: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4342
[07:30] <linuxgeek2> !hi
[07:30] <ubotu> hi!
[07:30] <linuxgeek2> !bugger
[07:30] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: Wish i knew
[07:31] <x86i> kapputu: It sounds like something is wrong on the windows end. If you can see the folder, but not its contents.
[07:31] <kapputu> no I can't see the folder
[07:31] <kapputu> I can see the machine
[07:31] <kapputu> Windows is able to see my linux shares
[07:31] <blank> maaaan, I got an error with mplayer when I started it: "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[07:31] <x86i> kapputu: Paste me your samba config as well.
[07:31] <varsebegdello> blank i don't know
[07:31] <stevejesus> x86i:  what is the actually pastbin url.  that one takes me to some spyware junk lol
[07:32] <kapputu> x86i, where do I find it?
[07:32] <kapputu> /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[07:32] <stevejesus> x86i:  this time i will bookmark it:)
[07:32] <x86i> stevejesus: Its pastebin.com sorry
[07:32] <stevejesus> x86i:  thank you
[07:32] <x86i> kapputu: yes
[07:32] <kapputu> what's the url for paste bin?
[07:33] <kapputu> it's been a long time since I was here
[07:33] <x86i> kapputu: www.pastebin.com
[07:33] <varsebegdello> blank, ok ok i figured it out, you have sources open and apt-get update doesn't like that
[07:33] <stevejesus> x86i:  http://pastebin.com/425239
[07:34] <varsebegdello> how do i apt-get xubuntu?
[07:34] <stevejesus> what is xubuntu?
[07:34] <dooglus> varsebegdello: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu"
[07:34] <blank> varsebegdello: how do I fix it
[07:34] <varsebegdello> it is ubuntu with X
[07:34] <dooglus> stevejesus: xubuntu is to XFCE as kununtu is to KDE
[07:34] <tritium> stevejesus, ubuntu with xfce
[07:34] <varsebegdello> do you have gedit running?
[07:34] <varsebegdello> blan
[07:34] <stevejesus> i see
[07:35] <varsebegdello> blank,
[07:35] <kapputu> x86i, http://pastebin.com/425240
[07:35] <stevejesus> varsebegdello:  why dont you just apt-get XFCE?
[07:35] <blank> varsebegdello: I'll start it, yeah
[07:35] <varsebegdello> dooglus, should i be able to apt-get fluxbox
[07:35] <varsebegdello> no stiop it
[07:35] <x86i> stevejesus: Try to access the other machine  with smb://IP
[07:35] <varsebegdello> blank
[07:35] <crimsun> dooglus: (it's xubuntu-desktop)
[07:36] <blank> yes
[07:36] <dooglus> varsebegdello: you need to use 'sudo' before apt-get and 'install' after - but otherwise, sure, why not?
[07:36] <stevejesus> varsebegdello:  yes you can.  and enlightenment and many others.  some require that you uncomment universe and multiverse
[07:36] <dooglus> crimsun: the package it, yes.
[07:36] <varsebegdello> cool
[07:36] <dooglus> s/it/is/
[07:36] <varsebegdello> blank,
[07:36] <varsebegdello> umm
[07:36] <varsebegdello> sorr
[07:36] <varsebegdello> y
[07:37] <x86i> kapputu: Hrm, your config looks fine. you said it CAN see the other machine?
[07:37] <stevejesus> x86i:  from nautilus?  is there a way to show your path in nautilus?  like in konqueror?
[07:37] <dooglus> stevejesus: type control-l
[07:37] <kapputu> x86i, yes
[07:37] <blank> yeah varsebegdello
[07:37] <varsebegdello> save the edited sources.list and close it then run apt-get update agian     *sudo
[07:37] <bonbon> ok, how do i get a partition to show up as a drive on my desktop or places?
[07:37] <kapputu> x86i, also the windows machine can read my linux shares
[07:37] <stevejesus> dooglus:  command not found
[07:37] <bonbon> i tried the "disks" utility under "system" but when i reboot it says "failed to mount partitions"
[07:38] <stevejesus> dooglus:  what will that do?
[07:38] <dooglus> stevejesus: which one?
[07:38] <blank> varsebegdello, without changing sources.list at all? I opened it and havne't changed it
[07:38] <stevejesus> dooglus:  control -l
[07:38] <varsebegdello> you ahve to save it
[07:38] <varsebegdello> and exti
[07:38] <blank> yeah, it's saved
[07:38] <bonbon> i can manually mount it in disks when i boot, but it won't load automatically
[07:38] <varsebegdello> and not opend any more
[07:38] <dooglus> stevejesus: oh!  I mean hold the control key and type L which in nautilus.  it'll show the path.  you asked how to, right?
[07:38] <x86i> kapputu: Thats normal. I think its something in windows that isnt sharing it right. If your windows machine can access Ubuntu through samba, then its fine. Something is wrong with the windows share
[07:38] <stevejesus> dooglas:  haha thanks
[07:38] <blank> yeah, it works now, thanks bud :)
[07:38] <stevejesus> dooglus:  haha thanks
[07:39] <x86i> stevejesus: I dont know about nautilus. Try running it from the RUN menu
[07:39] <stevejesus> dooglus:  that was so handy.  thank you!
[07:39] <varsebegdello> blank is it working?
[07:39] <x86i> dooglus: Thanks lol
[07:39] <dooglus> stevejesus: I'm glad to help.
[07:39] <blank> yeah it's been working lol
[07:39] <blank> thanks bud
[07:40] <varsebegdello> you bet, i think i was helping you with mplayer couple days ago
[07:40] <kapputu> x86i, grrrrr I was connected to my office through vpn
[07:40] <stevejesus> x86i:  no  dice
[07:40] <varsebegdello> blank, get to know the command line interface, you'll love it
[07:40] <x86i> stevejesus: Error?
[07:41] <varsebegdello> so is mplayer working yet?
[07:41] <x86i> stevejesus: Are you sure samba is running?
[07:41] <stevejesus> x86i:  i tried smb://"insert ip here" and it wouldnt display contents.
[07:41] <Lord_Maynoth> HEy
[07:41] <blank> varsebegdello: thanks, I will :) yeah it's working, thanks bud!
[07:41] <varsebegdello> cool
[07:41] <stevejesus> x86i:  samba is running.  i aam sharing my homedir from here and i also have a mounted samba share
[07:41] <Lord_Maynoth> Does anyone know if it is possible to install the latest Open Office 2 (not beta)
[07:42] <dooglus> Lord_Maynoth: it is possible.
[07:42] <Lord_Maynoth> dooglus, how do i do it?
[07:42] <varsebegdello> Lord_Maynoth, i downlaoded the rpms from OO.o and ailend it
[07:42] <x86i> stevejesus: Try smbclient -L yourhostname
[07:42] <DR_K13> compile it
[07:42] <x86i> in console
[07:43] <Lord_Maynoth> is there a repo for ubuntu with the newest openofffice (non-beta)
[07:43] <dooglus> Lord_Maynoth: either download binaries and install, or download sources and build.  I'd go for binaries if I were you
[07:43] <varsebegdello> dooglus, Lord_Maynoth   it didn't quite work out for me
[07:43] <kapputu> x86i, I apologize for wasting your time
[07:43] <varsebegdello> dooglus, did you get it working?
[07:43] <varsebegdello> Ooo
[07:43] <stevejesus> x86i:  looks good.  shows all my machines info
[07:43] <Lord_Maynoth> thats way to much work for a guy who cant run the CLI
[07:43] <Lord_Maynoth> hehe
[07:43] <blank> I keep getting xml parser errors in firefox :(
[07:43] <dooglus> varsebegdello: I didn't try.  I much prefer gnumeric and abiword to openoffice.
[07:43] <x86i> stevejesus: Hrm... Sounds like something is up in gui
[07:44] <dooglus> varsebegdello: my PC is 'memory challenged' - OO.o is too big for me.
[07:44] <stevejesus> x86i:  well is there a way to browse shares via term?
[07:44] <Lord_Maynoth> is there a repo that has bleeding edge apps for ubuntu
[07:44] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[07:44] <kapputu> how do I access a printer that's connected to my Windows computer?
[07:45] <intelikey> yeah main
[07:45] <dooglus> Lord_Maynoth: there was supposed to be a "grumpy groundhog" repo for bleeding edge stuff, but I don't think it happened yet.
[07:45] <varsebegdello> i have some ooo -Base documents that i have't been able to find a database program, any sugestions?
[07:45] <x86i> stevejesus: One sec, looking into it
[07:45] <Lord_Maynoth> I just wish autopackage would take off... then you wouldn't have to wait 6 months for new versions...
[07:45] <vbgunz> hello everyone, I have a general question. Why are files being shared from XP have time stamps about 5 hours behind the real time on Ubuntu? I mean I just created a file on XP and shared it. I grabbed it with Ubuntu and the time stamp is about 5 hours behind... Why?
[07:45] <varsebegdello> ubuntu is pretty bleeding edge compared to some....
[07:46] <dooglus> vbgunz: do you live 5 hours east or west of grenwich?
[07:46] <vbgunz> dooglus: I have both OS set to eastern
[07:46] <varsebegdello> gnight guys
[07:47] <vbgunz> dooglus: How can I check to make sure  Ubuntu is eastern?
[07:47] <dooglus> eastern is GMT-0500?
[07:47] <vbgunz> yes I believe
[07:47] <intelikey> vbgunz hwclock and timezone settings....
[07:47] <dooglus> system->admin->time-and-date
[07:47] <x86i> stevejesus: Add these lines to your sambaconfig under global domain master = yes local master = yes preferred master = yes , all on a newline
[07:47] <vbgunz> intelikey: thank you
[07:47] <x86i> stevejesus: then restart samba
[07:48] <vbgunz> dooglus: I do havce America/New York set which is Eastern...
[07:48] <stevejesus> x86i:  ok ill give it a shit
[07:48] <x86i> stevejesus: LOL
[07:48] <stevejesus> x86i:  shot*  lol
[07:48] <DR_K13> kikilololol
[07:48] <stevejesus> x86i:  i is next to o ha   maybe i should use a dutch layout
[07:48] <x86i> kapputu: Did you get it working?
[07:49] <blank> for ati drivers, I do the sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, then restart or then do the echo thing and edit the xorg.conf and THEN restart
[07:49] <intelikey> X question.    in XFree86 there was a XF86_SVGA server is there an svga server in xorg ?
[07:50] <kapputu> x86i, yes the problem was I was connected to my office network through VPn
[07:50] <intelikey> i'm not seeing anything when i cache search for it....
[07:50] <stevejesus> x86i:  it shouldnt matter where i add it right?  just so long as its under global?
[07:50] <x86i> kapputu: Ah ok :)
[07:50] <x86i> stevejesus: Yeah, put them all together though, for testing purposes.
[07:50] <kapputu> x86i, I'm trying to add the printer connected to my Windows machine, do I need the driver?
[07:51] <dooglus> vbgunz: I don't know what's wrong then.  I don't have that problem.
[07:51] <x86i> kapputu: That I dont even know how to do. I think it works the same way. Not sure. check out http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[07:51] <vbgunz> dooglus: man, it's no big deal Vs a big annoyance...
[07:51] <dooglus> vbgunz: the clock is correct on both machines?
[07:51] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes both state 1:51AM right now
[07:52] <vbgunz> dooglus: one sec, I'll experiment on something
[07:52] <blank> guys im getting so pissed, I cant download anything in firefox cause I keep getting xml parsing errors
[07:53] <dooglus> vbgunz: check the timezone on the XP machine too
[07:53] <blank> I even get it when I go into preferences>privacy
[07:53] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes, I just shared something from another XP machine and the results are the same...
[07:53] <deFrysk> blank, pebkac ?
[07:53] <dooglus> vbgunz: and check /etc/timezone on ubuntu
[07:53] <blank> I get it on everything :'(
[07:53] <blank> pebkac?
[07:53] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[07:53] <blank> what's pebkac
[07:53] <deFrysk> blank, google for it
[07:53] <dooglus> blank: problem exists between keyboard and computer
[07:54] <vbgunz> dooglus: US/Eastern
[07:54] <dooglus> blank: or is it 'chair'?
[07:54] <deFrysk> chair
[07:54] <intelikey> pebcak = problem exists between chair and keyboard
[07:54] <german> need some help with an script, somebodu can help me??
[07:54] <dooglus> german: maybe
[07:55] <dooglus> german: may need a more detailed spec though
[07:55] <blank> no...comon it's something messed up, I cant surf cause I keep getting xml parsing errors
[07:55] <blank> I cant even go into my preferences
[07:55] <deFrysk> blank, what did you do to achieve this problem ?
[07:55] <dooglus> vbgunz: how are you accessing the XP share?
[07:55] <blank> maybe I should restart, since I haven't since I installed ubuntu, and I've updated since then
[07:55] <intelikey> also refered to as "administrative error"
[07:55] <german> its a sctript to know my piblic IP dooglus
[07:55] <vbgunz> dooglus: I swear this is a mystery... I do not know why the time of the file is 5 hours behind... It really makes no sense... Anybody have any ideas, clues or hints?
[07:55] <x86i> stevejesus: You might have to install a gui samba frontend. Look for JAGS in Synaptics.
[07:55] <vbgunz> dooglus: I am accessing like this > smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/Documents
[07:55] <blank> deFrysk: I dont know, I click a download link, etc., let me restart
[07:55] <blank> see what happens
[07:56] <vbgunz> dooglus: Through Nautilus...
[07:56] <german> dooglus, it uses wget to take the scriptr froma thw web
[07:56] <german> then i use cut to edit that
[07:56] <stevejesus> x86i:  alright im about to do an apt-get on JAGS.  dont really want to wait for synaptic to load.  never used it before either.  yeah, those lines didnt work, but!!  it didnt screw anything up!
[07:57] <[linner] > hey guys... how do i add multiverse and universe to my repository list?
[07:57] <dooglus> vbgunz: if you 'view as list' in nautilus, do you see wrong timestamps there?
[07:57] <dooglus> german: ok...  what URL?
[07:57] <x86i> stevejesus: I figured it wouldnt fix it, but it will help others see Ubuntu for sure. Try JAGS
[07:57] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes, list view is my preferred view... I'll check icons
[07:57] <x86i> stevejesus: We know Samba is working, since the cli list worked
[07:57] <german> i'll paste the script in #flood
[07:58] <stevejesus> x86i:  well i think ill remove it.  like i said, i can get to the ubuntu desktop from 3 different platforms in the house.
[07:58] <x86i> german: Paste it here www.pastebin.com
[07:58] <vbgunz> dooglus: oh, no, I cannot see time and icon view (list is no wonder preferred)
[07:58] <intelikey> cut to edit ?????    german echo $USER | cut -c3-4
[07:58] <vbgunz> dooglus: this is the modified time: Thu 10 Nov 2005 08:52:30 PM EST
[07:59] <german> i'ts just two lines, chek it at #flood
[07:59] <x86i> vbgunz: what file is this?
[08:00] <vbgunz> dooglus: XP reports modified time as "Today, November 11, 2005, 1:52:30 AM" and Ubuntu reports it as "Thu 10 Nov 2005 08:52:30 PM EST"
[08:00] <intelikey> `echo $USER | cut -c3-4` *
[08:01] <dooglus> german: try this: wget -O- -o/dev/null http://snurl.com/ipaddress
[08:01] <vbgunz> dooglus: this was just a regular text file: On XP, right-click > New > Text file... and checked it out on Ubuntu... It happens with executables and anything else... I have yet to find a file where time stamps sync correctly... All three machines are set to EST...
[08:02] <x86i> vbgunz: try to make a file in Ubuntu and see what windows says?
[08:02] <vbgunz> x86i: good idea
[08:02] <german> dooglus, my script is like that
[08:02] <vbgunz> I'll try that now
[08:02] <blank> hey guys how come I cant do 'sudo alien package'
[08:02] <blank> it says alien command not found
[08:02] <dooglus> vbgunz: I'm not understanding.  when you copy the file to ubuntu, the time is wrong, but what happens when you look at the 'list view' of the smb:/.../ in nautilus?
[08:02] <Victor-> join rencka psl-abcd
[08:02] <dooglus> german: that URL only prints the IP address - nothing more - so no 'cut' is needed
[08:02] <blank> how come I cant do sudo alien
[08:03] <dooglus> german: I just joined #flood.  paste your script there now?
[08:03] <kapputu> HP Deskjet 3930 is not supported
[08:03] <vbgunz> dooglus: the time is just wrong... I just tried what x86i recommended and Ubuntu created a file directly on the share 5 hours behind "Thu 10 Nov 2005 09:02:20 PM EST"
[08:03] <blank> guys, how can I install alien, so I can convert rpm packages to debian
[08:03] <vbgunz> dooglus: it should be "Fri 10 Nov 2005 02:02:20 PM EST"
[08:03] <x86i> vbgunz: And the time in ubuntu is correct?
[08:04] <stevejesus> x86i:  alright now im getting upset.
[08:04] <vbgunz> yes, the tray clock says: 02:04:08 AM
[08:04] <tritium> blank, sudo aptitude install alien.  Which rpms do you intend to convert?  Are there no ubuntu packages?
[08:04] <german> dooglus, my problem s that sometimes my Ip is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and other times it is xxx.xxx.xx.xx
[08:04] <stevejesus> x86i:  jags seems to only let you browse one workgroup at a time
[08:04] <stevejesus> x86i:  there ahas to be an easir way
[08:04] <intelikey> blank to install almost anything you want use "sudo apt-get install <package-name> "
[08:04] <blank> limewire (i dont want gtk-gnutella
[08:04] <x86i> stevejesus: Yes, but you can mount the drives
[08:04] <dooglus> vbgunz: try this:  mkdir /tmp/mount; sudo mount -t cifs -o password=,uid=1000 //<IP_ADDRESS>/Documents /tmp/mount
[08:05] <vbgunz> dooglus: date: Friday, November 11 2005 and time: 02:04:56 AM...
[08:05] <blank> intelikey: even rpms?
[08:05] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[08:05] <x86i> vbgunz: Goto console and type time
[08:05] <intelikey> blank first try apt and if there is no deb avalable then use the rpm package as a last resort
[08:05] <stevejesus> x86i:  yes, they will mount fine.  but it is a little cumbersome to mount everything via the command line.  granted my personal server mounts at boot, but everything else
[08:05] <FarrisG> Anyone here played Quake 4 under Ubuntu yet?
[08:06] <vbgunz> x86i: real 0m0.000s, user 0m0.000s, sys 0m0.000s,
[08:06] <stevejesus> FarrisG:  yes i have
[08:06] <vbgunz> dooglus: am doing that now
[08:06] <dooglus> vbgunz: then cd to /tmp/mount and check the dates there
[08:06] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[08:06] <blank> the sudo aptitude install alien thing didnt work
[08:06] <stevejesus> FarrisG:  and it is pityful.  of course my machine is slower than needed.
[08:06] <x86i> stevejesus: JAGS has an AutoMount feature
[08:06] <blank> it said it cant find it
[08:07] <german> i'm trying your command dooglus but nothing happens
[08:07] <blank> read this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21523) the post by Mike Basinger, it tells what I want to do but it doesnt work
[08:07] <tritium> !info alien
[08:07] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[08:07] <FarrisG> stevejesus: I feel the same way, but my hardware isn't THAT bad. P4 2GHz, 1GB PC3200, Radeon 9800Pro 128M
[08:07] <vbgunz> dooglus: wrong fs type
[08:07] <tritium> blank, it's available, as you can see
[08:07] <FarrisG> stevejesus: My Athlon64 machine is reinstalling right now, I hope it works a bit better
[08:08] <stevejesus> FarrisG:  thats almost identical to what i have!  i have a 2000+, 1gb, and 256mb 5600xt
[08:08] <x86i> FarrisG: My friend is currently playing Quake4 in Ubuntu
[08:08] <stevejesus> FarrisG:  i was unaware that they had a 64-bit build...
[08:08] <Chousuke> You guys have such monsters
[08:08] <blank> tritium: sorry but I dont understand
[08:08] <Chousuke> and then you call them slow?
[08:08] <vbgunz> dooglus: I think I created the /tmp/mount directory... I can CD in and when I tried "ls -a" all I got back was ". .."
[08:08] <Chousuke> ;P
[08:09] <x86i> I have 2800+ Barton, 4gb of PC3200 and a 9800PRO
[08:09] <vbgunz> dooglus: I might have to umount /tmp/mount huh?
[08:09] <FarrisG> stevejesus: I don't think there's a 64bit build of Quake. But I usually run 32bit OS on the athlon54 anyway
[08:09] <tritium> blank, alien is available for install.  You should be able to sudo apt-get install alien, unless you haven't ever run "sudo apt-get update" yet
[08:09] <intelikey> Kernel: Linux 2.8.4-22 | Distro: Boomerang Linux release 1.0 for i386 | CPU: intel 80486 @ 66 Mhz | Mem usage: 2/11.1 MB  (18%) | Swap usage: 0/0 (99%) | Disk usage(st3502): 84/124 MB (67%) | Uptime: 11 days 01 hours 09 mins 38 sec
[08:09] <vbgunz> dooglus: then sudo the command you gave me>?
[08:09] <Chousuke> x86i: What use do you have for 4 gb? :|
[08:09] <x86i> intelikey: Im sorry :(
[08:10] <Chousuke> intelikey:  \o/
[08:10] <solidgroove> 2.8 kernel?
[08:10] <blank> tritium: so I have to install alien?
[08:10] <highvoltage> 2.8!? where do i get that?
[08:10] <dducko> blank, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[08:10] <x86i> Chousuke: Nothing, I got the sticks for free.
[08:10] <tritium> blank, you're the one who said you wanted it
[08:10] <solidgroove> whats boomerang?
[08:10] <blank> oh, Sorry, I thought it was part of the command not something I had to install lol
[08:10] <x86i> Chousuke: I actually use them as ram drives. Thats where my swap is located.
[08:10] <dducko> No not really blank, I use that tutorial everytime i install it
[08:10] <ali_> hi i am trying to install ubuntu 5.10
[08:10] <stevejesus> x86i:  silly...  so jags didnt seem to be showing any machine graphically.  but i just looked behind it from the terminal it was launched from, and it lists al the shares in my network when i query
[08:10] <dducko> If you use the RPM yeah.. but you dont need it blank
[08:10] <ali_> it gets hang on my TravelMate laptop
[08:11] <ali_> on the line
[08:11] <FarrisG> My athlon64 only has 1GB in it as well. Could use one more gig. I'm just wondering if there will be a noticable hit since I'm using PATA drives in it instead of SATA/RAID0. Can't afford new drives right now, and I don't want to break the RAID on this system, as it's my fileserver
[08:11] <dooglus> vbgunz: I doubt /tmp/mount existed before you made it
[08:11] <ali_> loading cd-atapi module
[08:11] <vbgunz> dooglus: cannot create directory `/tmp/mount': File exists
[08:11] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  how do you like that verizon service?
[08:11] <Knelix> Guys, just as a note... x is displaying on my TV just fine.. apparently, I just had to start up with just the TV out connected.
[08:11] <rabeldable> ali_: is TravelMate a new or old laptop?
[08:11] <ali_> pentium 3
[08:11] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  i do technical support for those guys
[08:11] <dooglus> vbgunz: wrong fs type?  that's odd.  it's a windows share, right?
[08:11] <vbgunz> I tried to sudo umount /tmp/mount but:  /tmp/mount: not mounted
[08:11] <Knelix> Of course, it isn't very readable at all, but that's okay.
[08:11] <[linner] > rabeldable:  travelmate i think is an older laptop
[08:12] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes, NTFS
[08:12] <d^-_-^b> stevejesus, it suxxors in my locale.  I know that back in east, they have fiber opics lines
[08:12] <intelikey> ali is that booting from the install cd or what ?
[08:12] <LathropWells> knelix good to know. :)
[08:12] <d^-_-^b> stevejesus, but not here unforunately
[08:12] <d^-_-^b> =/
[08:12] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  fios baby
[08:12] <Knelix> :-)
[08:12] <x86i> stevejesus: Hrm... odd.. I'd head over to #samba ... Maybe you need an exorcist?
[08:12] <blank> oh okay
[08:12] <FarrisG> They just finished laying the fiber to my neighborhood this week
[08:12] <blank> yeah cuase somehow I think it didnt work with the rpm
[08:12] <vbgunz> dooglus: "sudo umount /tmp/mount" doesn't work... it seems I cannot umount it :9
[08:12] <ali_> intelikey, yes it is booting from install cd
[08:12] <FarrisG> supposedly it'll be a month or two before I can get service
[08:12] <ali_> but on this point
[08:12] <LathropWells> FarrisG - need a roomie??? - lol
[08:12] <ali_> it stops
[08:12] <[linner] > is everyone else having a problem wtih the repos
[08:12] <dooglus> vbgunz: it's not mounted
[08:12] <rabeldable> ali_: did you cycle through the alt-f2, alt-f3, alt-f4 keys to see any extra info on the screen?
[08:12] <dducko> nah Ubuntu is Debian so need .deb packages, blank
[08:13] <d^-_-^b> stevejesus, what's 'fios'?
[08:13] <tritium> hey there [linner] .  long time no see
[08:13] <ali_> rabeldable, no
[08:13] <[linner] > tritium:  my hero!!! :)  How the heck are you?
[08:13] <rabeldable> check it out
[08:13] <FarrisG> LathropWells: If my bro doesn't start paying his rent, I just might. :) Actually, my fiance would probably kill me if I took on another boarder
[08:13] <LathropWells> FarrisG - what is the news on price?
[08:13] <dducko> fiber optics d^-_-^b
[08:13] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  fios is the term for the fiber line your talking about.
[08:13] <dooglus> vbgunz: you can tell by typing "df /tmp/mount" - look at the "mounted on" field
[08:13] <blank> looks like I need java
[08:13] <blank> :(
[08:13] <rabeldable> alt-f2 through alt-f7
[08:13] <d^-_-^b> ooo
[08:13] <intelikey> ali_ try with expert mode and when it says detecting ....  unselect generic cdrom module
[08:13] <vbgunz> dooglus: oh ok I think your'e rightz1
[08:13] <LathropWells> how fast for how much $  ?
[08:13] <FarrisG> LathropWells: I think It's supposed to be 45 or 50 bucks for 8Mb/4Mb
[08:13] <x86i> stevejesus: Check this out http://imc.sourceforge.net/samba-console.html
[08:13] <dducko> Not bad
[08:14] <blank> I need java for limewire right?
[08:14] <stevejesus> d^-_-^b:  fios is the term for the fiber line your talking about.
[08:14] <ali_> intelikey, is it all ?
[08:14] <vbgunz> dooglus: Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on, /dev/hda2              9614148   5416448   3709324  60% /
[08:14] <dooglus> vbgunz: is there a password on the share
[08:14] <dducko> yeah..  its on the link i gave you blank
[08:14] <rabeldable> ali_: the thing is it might not be the cdrom, if you can boot from it it could be the next thing in the list trying to load
[08:14] <dooglus> vbgunz: that "mounted on /" shows that nothing is mounted on /tmp/mount
[08:14] <vbgunz> dooglus: no, both XP boxes have open shares...
[08:14] <LathropWells> FarrisG - That is outstanding! :)      (willing to sublet the front yard,backyard, roof, or basement so i can  setup a tent? - lol
[08:14] <FarrisG> LathropWells: The bitch is that I don't think they'll even consider doling out static addresses. Which blows
[08:14] <ali_> rabeldable, after taking the language and keyboard setting
[08:14] <blank> the package doesnt exist though
[08:14] <hs> hi *.*
[08:14] <dducko> or for the official one...
[08:14] <ali_> rabeldable, it looks for the option
[08:15] <intelikey> yeah it will ask that two times in the install process.   both times deslesct that and see if it cant install
[08:15] <dducko> !restricted
[08:15] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ; also see !javadebs (for sun-java debs) and !w32codecs
[08:15] <ali_> and at that stage it hangs
[08:15] <intelikey> ali_ ^
[08:15] <x86i> FarrisG: Who needs static addresses?  I got nothin' to hide
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey,  you will be around
[08:16] <intelikey> k
[08:16] <intelikey> for a while
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey, it is working over the desktop
[08:16] <x86i> FarrisG: That fast of a connection corrupts even the purest of souls... trust me. I was once pure.
[08:16] <FarrisG> LathropWells: YEah, I'm doing my own cooked up dyndns myself. It's just nearly impossible to really host anything without a static
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey, is expert mode difficult ?
[08:16] <vbgunz> x86i: what does this mean for time?: real    0m0.000s user    0m0.000s sys     0m0.000s
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey, i did server last time
[08:16] <blank> tell ubotu to tell me the sources.list or whatever of the repositories
[08:16] <blank> he told me once
[08:16] <dooglus> vbgunz: what if you   "mount -t cifs -o passwd= //<IP_ADDRESS>/documents /tmp/mount"   ?
[08:16] <intelikey> no just very aquainted with install errors.
[08:16] <ali_> intelikey, it seemed similar but ia m not sure about expert
[08:16] <vbgunz> dooglus: I will try
[08:16] <stevejesus> x86i:  interesting.  ill install that on the deb server in the living room.  i might find a practical use for it
[08:17] <vbgunz> dooglus: sudo first right?
[08:17] <FarrisG> HIttin' the hay y'all. G'night
[08:17] <intelikey> just read what it asks before you answer ali_ and you'll be fine.
[08:17] <x86i> stevejesus: I am at a loss for your problem. Samba is working, but not in Gnome. Check with #samba
[08:17] <ali_> intelikey, and if i dont know just select the default is it ?
[08:17] <vbgunz> dooglus: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/documents, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[08:18] <stevejesus> x86i:  will do
[08:18] <dducko> blank you can also  /msg ubotu whatever
[08:18] <intelikey> most of the time ali_
[08:18] <dducko> and he will respond to you
[08:18] <x86i> dducko: Can I ask him on a date?
[08:18] <dducko> Bottoms up.
[08:18] <dooglus> vbgunz: I don't need sudo - I can mount it as user.
[08:18] <x86i> !date
[08:18] <ubotu> x86i: I haven't a clue
[08:18] <frogzoo> !tell blank about repos
[08:19] <ali_> intelikey, are u using 5.10 ?
[08:19] <intelikey> tritium thanks but i'll pass, i'm on the vertual wagon.
[08:19] <LathropWells> virtualy drunk my wife won't mind... - lol
[08:19] <vbgunz> dooglus: mount: only root can do that...
[08:19] <dooglus> vbgunz: odd.
[08:19] <intelikey> ali_ 5.04
[08:19] <frogzoo> blank: ubotu is a bot :)
[08:19] <vbgunz> dooglus: does this happen to you?
[08:19] <dooglus> vbgunz: aah...  I have: mount is aliased to `sudo mount'
[08:19] <tritium> intelikey, well, good for you, heh
[08:19] <ali_> intelikey, what is the rite time to install it ? i mean 5.10 ?
[08:19] <x86i> He may be a bot, but hes a sexy bot.
[08:19] <ali_> is it a good idea to install it now? intelikey
[08:19] <blank> frogzoo: i know
[08:20] <intelikey> yes ali_
[08:20] <blank> man i cant get frickin java to install
[08:20] <blank> it says no such package
[08:20] <b0uncer> dudes, I can't login to Gnome after update :/
[08:20] <b0uncer> any help?
[08:20] <tritium> blank, read the java wiki page
[08:20] <x86i> blank: Its java-core I believe
[08:20] <intelikey> ali_ i'm on dialup so i'm always behind.
[08:20] <frogzoo> !java
[08:20] <marlun> Hello again everyone! I'm wondering, Ubuntu has Firefox 1.0.7 installed by default, if I want to upgrade to 1.5 RC2, what should I do, just download it and manually install it or somehow through the Package Manager?
[08:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[08:20] <vbgunz> dooglus: when I first set up the share I did Places > Connect to Server > server: 192* > share: Documents > name for connect: XP1
[08:20] <ali_> intelikey, oh ok
[08:21] <ali_> intelikey, but that is good version too
[08:21] <blank> !javadeb
[08:21] <ubotu> blank: I don't know
[08:21] <vbgunz> marlun: firefox rc2 is out or rc1?
[08:21] <blank> uh...kay
[08:21] <intelikey> yes
[08:21] <dooglus> vbgunz: you shouldn't need anything set up to do this mount.
[08:21] <blank> man :')
[08:21] <blank> i dont get it
[08:21] <dooglus> vbgunz: what if you replace 'cifs' with 'smbfs'?
[08:21] <frogzoo> blank: /msg ubotu help
[08:21] <vbgunz> dooglus: will try
[08:22] <marlun> vbgunz, rc2 is out
[08:22] <x86i> /msg ubotu will you give me the secret to life?
[08:22] <intelikey> dooglus can i ask what mount command yall are working on ?
[08:22] <frogzoo> ubotu: knows everything :)
[08:22] <ubotu> frogzoo: Syntax error in line 1
[08:22] <vbgunz> dooglus: same error regardless smbfs OR cifs...
[08:22] <frogzoo> :P - lol
[08:22] <marlun> vbgunz, nothing big, just some fixes to the automatic update system (atleast thats what the release notes say)
[08:22] <vbgunz> marlun: cool, thanks
[08:22] <dooglus> intelikey: mounting a windows share in ubuntu
[08:22] <dducko> blank #dzdsytems and Ill help you get java installed
[08:22] <kapputu> What do I do with a printer that does not show up in the list of supported printers in Linuxprinting.org??
[08:22] <intelikey> through samba i suppose
[08:22] <stevejesus> where is the guy trying to install xubuntu?  are you still here?  i am about to install it onto an old laptop.  i have links to the nesasary procedures
[08:22] <dooglus> intelikey: through smbfs
[08:22] <BioNik> hi, ho/redraw
[08:22] <vbgunz> marlun: I cannot wait for firefox 1.5 final to go on Ubuntu... its faster...
[08:23] <intelikey> k
[08:23] <rabeldable> kapputu:  if you have an HP printer usually you can select a printer close in the models
[08:23] <frogzoo> !xubuntu
[08:23] <ubotu> methinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[08:23] <vbgunz> dooglus: you think maybe ntfs might work
[08:23] <dooglus> intelikey: I just do this: "sudo mount -t cifs -o passwd= //server/Dokumenty /tmp/mount" - but it's not working for vbgunz
[08:23] <BioNik> hi, how to change locale away from utf-8
[08:23] <dooglus> vbgunz: I'm pretty sure it wouldn't
[08:23] <rabeldable> it may be the same for other printer types
[08:23] <LathropWells> vbgunz - opera is faster than firefox if speed is what you need.
[08:23] <kapputu> yeah it's a HP printer
[08:23] <rabeldable> what type?
[08:24] <marlun> vbgunz, np, could you help me out? I've downloaded the firefox-1.5rc2.tar.gz and it automaticly opened it in something called fileroller which seems to be like winrar for windows, should I just copy it over the old firefox folder?
[08:24] <kapputu> 3920 and 3940 are supported but not 3930
[08:24] <vbgunz> LathropWells: nah, I like Firefox.... :P
[08:24] <intelikey> mount point exist ?
[08:24] <kapputu> It's a HP Deskjet
[08:24] <rabeldable> try the 3940
[08:24] <kapputu> ok
[08:24] <stevejesus> yes opera IS suprisingly fast for being almost its own os lol.
[08:24] <dooglus> vbgunz: this is a remote machine you're trying to mount, right, not a local dual-booted windows partition?
[08:24] <tritium> kapputu, that should be supported
[08:24] <frogzoo> BioNik: right click clock @ top right hand corner - edit - time zone
[08:24] <b0uncer> please, anybody who has updated the latest Breezy updates, can you log into Gnome?
[08:24] <vbgunz> marlun check Ubuntu forums... walkthrough already there for firefox 1.5
[08:24] <LathropWells> stevejesus - lol
[08:24] <stevejesus> epiphany is also very zippy
[08:24] <dooglus> b0uncer: I can
[08:24] <rabeldable> or try 3900 if its there?
[08:24] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes, another machine sitting right next to me
[08:24] <b0uncer> dooglus: any idea why I can't (ICEauthority errors..) ?
[08:24] <marlun> vbgunz, oh, ok =) thanks
[08:25] <dooglus> b0uncer: when were the updates?
[08:25] <kapputu> hpijs?
[08:25] <vbgunz> it is an XP machine set to ESt and the time is currently correct
[08:25] <b0uncer> dooglus: yesterday evening
[08:25] <dooglus> b0uncer: what did they update?
[08:25] <b0uncer> I can only use console now
[08:25] <kapputu> nope 3900 ain't there
[08:25] <b0uncer> mm can't remember...where's the log..
[08:25] <marlun> vbgunz, which of the forums should I search in?
[08:25] <vbgunz> dooglus: correct, it is a networked machine running XP...
[08:26] <vbgunz> marlun I believe it is in the Ubuntu howto forums... search for firefox 1.5
[08:26] <vbgunz> marlun: the walkthrough works, I did it and had no problems!
[08:26] <b0uncer> dooglus: here's a short list.. (wait a sec)
[08:26] <dooglus> b0uncer: nautilus was updated I see
[08:26] <intelikey> dooglus i think you still get the error "only root can do that" when the mount point or the fs one doesn't exist.  i'd start there.   in trying to trubble shoot that one.
[08:26] <rabeldable> kapputu:  it probably does not matter since it might use the same driver anyways
[08:27] <rabeldable> pick 3920 or 3940
[08:27] <b0uncer> yea some libnautilus-extension1, librpm, libungif, nautilus-data, nautilus
[08:27] <Grug> Hey guys just checkin out ubuntu for first time
[08:27] <tritium> welcome, Grug
[08:27] <vbgunz> intelikey: I was trying to mount without sudo... thats the reason why I got the error... Then I simply sudo'ed in and was prompted with wrong f type, etc...
[08:27] <dooglus> intelikey: that's solved...  I was wondering why I could mount as user, whereas vbgunz needed to 'sudo' - it was because I have aliased 'mount' to 'sudo mount'.
[08:27] <kapputu> rabeldable, I added the printer using the lpadmin command as specified in the Debian linux > windows printing tutorial
[08:27] <frogzoo> Grug: any probs, just come back here :)
[08:27] <Grug> Eclipse didn't work out for me
[08:27] <Grug> :)
[08:27] <rabeldable> test page?
[08:27] <kapputu> when I try to enable it, I get an error that the printer name is not a shell built-in
[08:27] <b0uncer> dooglus: have you updated nautilus?
[08:28] <hs> kapputu: use gnome-cups-manager
[08:28] <dooglus> intelikey: the question is why does vbgunz see "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/documents, missing codepage or other [...] " when he tries to mount it?
[08:28] <rabeldable> is it a network printer, usb or parralel
[08:28] <dooglus> b0uncer: I have, yes.  I don't really ever use it though.
[08:28] <dooglus> b0uncer: it still works though, from the little I've used it today
[08:28] <kapputu> It's a network USB printer
[08:28] <Grug> Ubuntu is great so far for being free lol... I'm a windows guy and this is a bit difficult at first
[08:28] <b0uncer> dooglus: ok just checking..
[08:28] <vbgunz> dooglus and b0uncer I have Nautilus "2.12.1".
[08:28] <b0uncer> dooglus: how do I do the update through console?
[08:28] <intelikey> well i'd say wrong fs type is probably the cause....
[08:28] <b0uncer> I'm not that familiar with these debian-based things yet
[08:29] <stevejesus> well, time to see how well xubuntu fares on my old pii 450 lappy.
[08:29] <dooglus> "nautilus (2.12.1-0ubuntu1.1)" is the updated version
[08:29] <intelikey> kernel module ?
[08:29] <rabeldable> run the following command on your system:  lsmod | grep usb
[08:29] <dooglus> b0uncer: you type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:29] <vbgunz> dooglus: do I have an older version?
[08:29] <frogzoo> Grug: remember learning windows at first wasn't straight forward - and Linux is way more powerful
[08:29] <rabeldable> that will tell you if the usb kernel module is loaded
[08:29] <b0uncer> dooglus: ok just figured out a sec ago :D
[08:30] <b0uncer> though there's nothing to be updated
[08:30] <b0uncer> :/
[08:30] <dooglus> vbgunz: "apt-cache policy nautilus | grep Installed" will tell you what you've got
[08:30] <b0uncer> I wonder what went wrong yesterday
[08:30] <kapputu> rabeldable, but the printer is connected to a Windows machine
[08:30] <b0uncer> and how to fix that
[08:30] <kapputu> I can see that machine and even see the printer
[08:30] <kapputu> but when I send a job nothing gets printer
[08:30] <vbgunz> dooglus: Installed: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1
[08:30] <kapputu> I'm not even sure if the job is spooled
[08:30] <stevejesus> frogzoo:  i wouldnt say thats it smore powerful.  thats a pretty broad statement.  i do like the apps better.  i mean my 350 g3 running os9 is still the most powerful thing i have EVER seen lol
[08:31] <dooglus> vbgunz: that's old then, yes.  I see "Installed: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1.1"
[08:31] <Grug> Anybody installed ubuntu on a mac mini?
[08:31] <vbgunz> dooglus: I get prompts to update the system and I update whenever I get the chance... did Nautilus just update?
[08:31] <stevejesus> frogzoo:  its all in the eye of the beholder
[08:31] <b0uncer> dooglus: I've got that 1.1 too :/ any clue how I might fix this problem?
[08:32] <b0uncer> if it even is nautilus-related
[08:32] <hs> kapputu: are u using samba and cups?
[08:32] <frogzoo> stevejesus: most everything in LInux can be scripted, which isn't the case in windows - that's a lot of leverage right there
[08:32] <kapputu> hs, yes
[08:32] <Mars_^> Hi
[08:32] <dooglus> vbgunz: I got the update about 36 hours ago.
[08:32] <b0uncer> Mars_^: hi
[08:32] <Grug> i script in windows using wscript :)
[08:32] <Mars_^> How can i mount my wndows partition?
[08:32] <vbgunz> dooglus: will refresh repos and check
[08:33] <rabeldable> kapputu:  so , you have a windows box with a usb printer connected and you are trying to print from your linux box which must have samba running since you can see it.
[08:33] <dooglus> vbgunz: I got it at 20:12 on the 9th.  it's now 8:32 on the 11th
[08:33] <hs> kapputu: printer name?
[08:33] <frogzoo> stevejesus: #2 Linux gives you access to the source & the open source community - again, that's a lot more flexibility than windows
[08:33] <stevejesus> frogzoo:  not too be devils advocate but you can script in windows just as deep as you can in mac or linux
[08:33] <Grug> yeah
[08:33] <kapputu> rabeldable, yes
[08:33] <rabeldable> ok
[08:33] <kapputu> printer name is Vyasa
[08:33] <Grug> But hey, this is an ubuntu group :)
[08:33] <LathropWells> Mars_^, - check out this link
[08:33] <b0uncer> dooglus: if you have an idea for me, please /msg me...I'll be back in a few minutes
[08:34] <b0uncer> or anyone
[08:34] <LathropWells> !ntfs
[08:34] <b0uncer> ->
[08:34] <tritium> frogzoo, stevejesus:  please take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:34] <vbgunz> dooglus: my system is up to date :( I do have all repos enabled *except* for backports... I am on Breezy 5.10, with all imaginable updates applied :(
[08:34] <stevejesus> frogzoo:  dont get me wrong, linux is my main machine.  i use it for music production!  but still windows and others platforms are still plenty powerful.
[08:34] <Mars_^> lahgoon, Thanks
[08:34] <rabeldable> do you have an IP associated to that name on your system?
[08:34] <stevejesus> tritium: sry
[08:34] <dooglus> vbgunz: it didn't update nautilus though?
[08:34] <rabeldable> the IP of your windows box?
[08:34] <hs> kapputu: i am asking company and model name
[08:34] <Mars_^> LathropWells,  Thanks
[08:34] <Grug> anybody know how to get nicer fonts for Ubuntu?
[08:34] <vbgunz> dooglus: I am guessing not... :(
[08:34] <tritium> stevejesus, no worries at all, buddy
[08:34] <rabeldable> HP 3930
[08:34] <kapputu> hs, Deskjet 3930
[08:34] <vbgunz> I have a pretty buig list of repos and all are enabled except for backports...
[08:34] <frogzoo> !fonts
[08:34] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[08:34] <Grug> thanks
[08:35] <intelikey> nicer fonts ????
[08:35] <dooglus> vbgunz: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release*   ?
[08:35] <rabeldable> kapputu: its important to describe your setup in more detail cause this might be a samba problem
[08:35] <hs> have you installed cupsys try to configure it from Gnome-cups manager
[08:35] <vbgunz> 366ae3e5d784eb41ef0dd9fc5d23cb91  /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubunt u_dists_breezy-updates_Release
[08:35] <kapputu> rabeldable, I'm using Ubuntu 5.10
[08:35] <kapputu> Windows XP with USB printer
[08:36] <kapputu> I have installed Samba
[08:36] <vbgunz> dooglus: I pasted the results above ^
[08:36] <kapputu> and I can access Windows shares from my laptop and linux shares from my desktop
[08:36] <marlun> vbgunz, when, firefox 1.5 is released will I be able to update it through the Synaptic Package Manager then?
[08:36] <dooglus> vbgunz: only one line
[08:36] <dooglus> ?
[08:36] <kapputu> I used the Printing menu option in System/Admin
[08:36] <hs> Kapputu, have you installed cupsys try to configure it from Gnome-cups manager
[08:37] <vbgunz> dooglus: I never did the file thing... I instead *only* enabled repos from the interface... Should I go enable repos in the gfile itself?
[08:37] <kapputu> if I'm assuming that Printing -> Gnome Cups Manager, it saw my Desktop and also recognized the printer that is shared
[08:37] <vbgunz> marlun: Firefox has it;s own update feature... I currently downgraded and cant wait for it :)
[08:37] <kapputu> and then I was asked to identify the model and when installing chose the driver for 3940
[08:37] <dooglus> vbgunz: no, there's no need
[08:38] <kapputu> and then I tried to print a document which was sent to the printer but nothing happened
[08:38] <dooglus> vbgunz: but you should have both a Release and a Release.gpg in that directory
[08:38] <vbgunz> dooglus: maybe worth a try?
[08:38] <rabeldable> kapputu: do you have /etc/printcap file?
[08:38] <dooglus> vbgunz: did you copy my md5sum command fully?  there's a '*' at the end...
[08:38] <vbgunz> dooglus: yes
[08:38] <stevejesus> just got a notion...  in nautilus, when you right-click on an iso file and click write do disk...  is that actually gonna checksum it and make it bootable?  that would be alot handier than loading up k3b
[08:38] <vbgunz> dooglus: will try agin
[08:38] <kapputu> Printing: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR:  Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[08:38] <kapputu> I got this error now
[08:38] <kapputu> the print job was spooled but I didn't notice it
[08:39] <kapputu> and now I got the above error
[08:39] <daHippo> Hi
[08:39] <dooglus> vbgunz: the problem is with the us repository.  it's out of date.
[08:39] <vbgunz> dooglus: yup, the result is "366ae3e5d784eb41ef0dd9fc5d23cb91  /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release" and the original command was: md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_Release*
[08:39] <kapputu> rabeldable, I do not have a /etc/printcap file
[08:40] <dooglus> vbgunz: compare ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/ with ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/
[08:40] <vbgunz> dooglus: what repo is up to date
[08:40] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[08:40] <rabeldable> kapputu:  run the following command and send the output to me
[08:40] <dooglus> vbgunz: run "sudo sed -i 's/us[.] //g' /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:41] <vbgunz> dooglus: does running on i686 make a difference?
[08:41] <rabeldable> grep -i print /etc/samba/smb.cnf
[08:41] <dooglus> vbgunz: I doubt it
[08:41] <hs> kapputu, have you enabled file and printer sharing in windows?
[08:41] <rabeldable> good question hs
[08:41] <kapputu> hs, I don't remember where I should enable it
[08:41] <rabeldable> i think you can right click on the printer and share it
[08:41] <vbgunz> dooglus: nothing happened, back to prompt, check updates again?
[08:41] <kapputu> rabeldable, the printer is shared
[08:41] <B_166-ER-X> TiCpu,  :P
[08:41] <TiCpu> yep
[08:41] <hs> kapputu, it will be in your lancad proerties menu
[08:41] <daHippo> Hey y'all are you trying to connect to a windows printer from ubuntu?
[08:41] <dooglus> vbgunz: update and upgrade, yes
[08:42] <hs> kapputu, it will be in your lancard proerties menu
[08:42] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok
[08:42] <dooglus> vbgunz: and something happened - you just didn't see it
[08:42] <rabeldable> is it shared as the same name as your linux box expects
[08:42] <hs> s/proerties/proerties
[08:42] <vbgunz> dooglus: I did :"sudo sed -i 's/us[.] //g' /etc/apt/sources.list" about 3 times... is that a bad thing?
[08:42] <hs> s/proerties/properties
[08:42] <dooglus> vbgunz: no, it's fine
[08:42] <kapputu> yeah it is enabled
[08:42] <kapputu> I mean do I need to go and enable it anywhere
[08:43] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok checking for updates
[08:43] <kapputu> I wouldn't be able to access my windows folders if it were disabled right?
[08:43] <vbgunz> dooglus: what was that command? man how you know these things?
[08:43] <dooglus> vbgunz: each time you ran it, it deleted all "us." strings from your sources.list.  the 2nd and 3rd time it wouldn't have found any to delete
[08:43] <rabeldable> kapputu:  Here are some links
[08:43] <hs> kupputu: it should be enabled there and printer should be configured for sharing
[08:43] <rabeldable> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/samba.htm
[08:43] <frogzoo> vbgunz: sed outputs to standard out - the worst you'll get is gibberish on your screen
[08:43] <vbgunz> dooglus: I do have three updates, nautilus is one of them
[08:43] <rabeldable> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=110931
[08:44] <vbgunz> going for it
[08:44] <rabeldable> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Linux_Printing/Q_20716995.html
[08:44] <dooglus> vbgunz: sed is a stream editor.  -i means "edit in place".  s/from/to/ replaces the 'from' string with the 'to' string.  the 'g' on the end makes it global - so it will do more than one replacement per line
[08:44] <vbgunz> dooglus: hree updates are nautilus related
[08:44] <rabeldable> see if there is something in your config that you may have missed
[08:44] <intelikey> ali_ must have gotten his/her lappy to boot the install cd  :)
[08:44] <vbgunz> dooglus: really sweet
[08:45] <ali_> intelikey, no
[08:45] <vbgunz> dooglus: major thanks, I have to remember this.... this is powerful
[08:45] <dooglus> vbgunz: looks like ubuntu need to get themselves someone to manage their repositories better.  the us repo is 36 hours out of date at least
[08:45] <intelikey> ali_ still same error ?
[08:45] <ali_> intelikey, one question about cd module
[08:45] <vbgunz> dooglus: ok upgrade finished
[08:45] <intelikey> k
[08:45] <vbgunz> will check
[08:45] <dducko> heh.. i had the nautilus when i got up this morning
[08:45] <ali_> once i complete installation then how to upload that default module ? for cd ?
[08:45] <dducko> however long ago that was..
[08:45] <vbgunz> dooglus: nautilus: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1.1
[08:45] <ali_> intelikey, once i complete installation then how to upload that default module ? for cd ?
[08:45] <dducko> and now im going to bed
[08:46] <marlun> vbgunz, yeah I know but I looked at the walkthrough and it's not as easy for me as it sounds on the text, for example how to install mozilla-mplayer, I can't find it in the package manager, and also they say I need libstdc++5 but I've got 6, do I still need 5 or is 6 a later version?
[08:46] <dooglus> vbgunz: that's the one
[08:46] <dooglus> vbgunz: hopefully it will break GNOME for you - then you and b0uncer can have fun debugging it :)
[08:46] <vbgunz> dooglus: cool... marlun I never installed mplayer... just firefox
[08:46] <vbgunz> dooglus: :P
[08:46] <intelikey> ali_ if you get it to install without it you don't use it.    if the install cd can be used without that module then any cd should work without it....
[08:47] <marlun> vbgunz, oh, but what about the libstdc++5? :P
[08:47] <ali_> intelikey, k
[08:47] <vbgunz> dooglus: the one thing about Windows shares with XP is there SO slow to access if you don't access them for a while
[08:48] <vbgunz> marlun: I followed the tute a while ago, it worked perfect and let me test Firefox 1.5 for a bit... then I just downgraded... I can wait and don't wish to break Ubuntu or something :)
[08:48] <intelikey> ali_ if a certain module hangs your system you try to get the system to work without that module.   even deleting it from /lib/modules/blah... if need  :)
[08:48] <ali_> intelikey, k
[08:48] <vbgunz> dooglus: I upgraded Nautilus... should I log out or restart gdm? It doesn't seem to have fixed the time issue :(
[08:49] <marlun> vbgunz, so your waiting untill it's up in the Package Manager?
[08:49] <frogzoo> is there any good reason to upgrade firefox to 1.5rc2 ?
[08:49] <kapputu> thanks rabeldable
[08:49] <ali_> intelikey, where are u situated ?
[08:49] <intelikey> not all hardware is compatable with all drivers/modules   and thus sometimes they hang things.....
[08:49] <agro1986> question: nautilus in breezy defaults to browsing mode (not spatial mode). Is this a change in upstream gnome or just in ubuntu?
[08:49] <vbgunz> marlun: sure, its no big deal and doesn't intriduce features which are too die for or anything :)
[08:49] <ali_> intelikey, where are u located :D ?
[08:49] <intelikey> in an office chair in my shop  :)
[08:49] <ali_> what is ur work ?
[08:49] <marlun> vbgunz, yeah thats what I was asking before if it was going to add to their for easy update when 1.5 was released :)
[08:50] <hs> kupputu: this link will solve your problem
[08:50] <hs> kupputu: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS_Setup#Windows_to_Linux
[08:50] <hs> kuputu: all the best
[08:50] <marlun> vbgunz, excuse my horrible english :)
[08:50] <intelikey> ali_ general repairs.    what used to be called a "handy man"
[08:50] <ali_> intelikey, computer repairs ?
[08:50] <intelikey> some yes.
[08:51] <agro1986> question: nautilus in breezy defaults to browsing mode (not spatial mode). Is this a change in upstream gnome or just in ubuntu?
[08:51] <ali_> other ? intelikey
[08:51] <rabeldable> np
[08:51] <vbgunz> marlun: when the official 1.5 is released... if Ubuntu doesn't up to it in time I might go ahead and install otherwise waiting will be no big deal... The one really cool thing about the new Firefox is how popups and javascript windows can be forced into a tab instead which is really nice...
[08:51] <ali_> intelikey, do you repair laptop pc's ?
[08:51] <theturtl> anyone know of an app for synching ipod music, thats compatible with itunes db?
[08:51] <intelikey> auto computer bycycle furnature..... you name it. if it's broke i work on it.
[08:51] <nalioth> vbgunz: that has been standard on galeon for some time now
[08:51] <vbgunz> dooglus: did you break out on me? Should I log out, restart GDM or something? times are still wrong in the Windows share
[08:51] <frogzoo> !ipod
[08:51] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:51] <vbgunz> nalioth: is galeon a Linux only browser?
[08:52] <ali_> intelikey can you tell me how to repair the screen of laptop ?
[08:52] <marlun> vbgunz, yeah okey then I'll just hope they'll add it when it comes :)
[08:52] <vbgunz> I just switched to Linux about 60 days ago and Firefox sort of made me happy as I was using it on Windows before the switch
[08:52] <kapputu> hs, my problem is the other way round
[08:52] <nalioth> vbgunz: it is built for gnome (using gtk2)
[08:52] <ali_> intelikey, the screen is very dark but there is picture in the background how to repair it ?
[08:52] <hs> kuputu: it has other way also
[08:52] <frogzoo> ali_: turn up the brightness?
[08:53] <theturtl> hrmm. so itunes with crossover office huh
[08:53] <theturtl> :D
[08:53] <vbgunz> nalioth: thanks!
[08:53] <hs> ali_: screen or screen resolution?
[08:53] <ali_> lol
[08:53] <intelikey> ali_ no chance without close examination....    but some have a trim pot for the brightness ali_
[08:53] <vbgunz> dooglus: ran out on me? what about that child support?
[08:53] <ali_> no its the screen not the brightness problem
[08:53] <vbgunz> :P
[08:53] <ali_> intelikey, someone said check the light ?
[08:53] <ali_> intelikey,  is there any light on the LCD ?
[08:54] <ali_> intelikey, where is the light setting ?
[08:55] <pauldaoust> hey, folks... I have a Hula/Evolution question. (I tried the Hula channel, but it looks like North America is asleep!) does anyone know a good way to transfer messages from Evo to Hula?
[08:56] <vbgunz> dooglus: sorry, logged out
[08:56] <hs> !Hula
[08:56] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hs
[08:56] <pauldaoust> (I tried to just copy Evo's mailboxes to Hula's mail store directory, but it looks like the formats are different enough that all I got were two or three messages from each folder)
[08:56] <intelikey> ali_ you are asking me to make very brawd assumptions about your particular problem.  (not that i don't make that mistake sometimes)   but without having that machine here i have no idea what to tell ya.       google.com is your friend and  don't believe everything you read.
[08:56] <pauldaoust> hs: you using Boolean operators there, or you just really feel passionate about Hula?
[08:56] <b0uncer> damn how can I login to Gnome :<
[08:57] <intelikey> b0uncer from ?
[08:57] <pauldaoust> hs: ping...
[08:57] <b0uncer> intelikey: from what/where?
[08:58] <intelikey> console ? b0uncer
[08:58] <b0uncer> from my own pc through gdm
[08:58] <b0uncer> :/
[08:58] <b0uncer> I don't even get an error-msg
[08:58] <b0uncer> just a brown background and a mouse cursor
[08:58] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: sometimes I can rectify that by rebooting. There's probably a better way to do it, but I haven't discovered it.
[08:59] <intelikey> hmmm ah sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:59] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: I updated Gnome yesterday (nautilus stuff), and booted my pc this morning
[08:59] <b0uncer> so I ought to try rebooting?
[08:59] <b0uncer> hmm..
[08:59] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: hm. so that's what you came up with first thing?
[08:59] <b0uncer> is there a somekind of Gnome's "config" file in my home dir, that might cause this?
[09:00] <intelikey> and b0uncer 'rm ~/.*autrority '
[09:00] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: one question; I arrived in this conversation late. You get GDM, but it just won't start up your GNOME session once you log in, right?
[09:00] <JaNez> hi all
[09:00] <JaNez> how i can star the live cd?
[09:00] <b0uncer> intelikey: didn't help
[09:01] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: that's right
[09:01] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: try this: log in using the 'failsafe' session, which should bring up just a single terminal. then go sudo chown b0uncer.b0uncer ~/.ICEauthority (of course substituting your proper username for b0uncer)
[09:01] <intelikey> typo   .*authority      i had an extra r  sorry.
[09:01] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: first time I got "Your session lasted less than 10 seconds" -message, but afterwards nothing
[09:01] <rubik> one question, can i add debian sources list to my ubuntu sources list ??
[09:02] <pauldaoust> rubik: yes, but you might get some compatibility problems. Some people do it with success; some don't.
[09:02] <intelikey> rubik yep and it will wreck the whole install  :)
[09:02] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: yeah, that sounds really familiar. um, yeah, try the ~/.ICEauthority thingy.
[09:02] <rubik> lol really
[09:02] <rubik> ?
[09:02] <rubik> i dont find a lot of programs i used in my debian
[09:02] <JaNez> how i can star the live cd?
[09:02] <intelikey> rubik  !repos
[09:02] <pauldaoust> JaNez: just pop it in your CD drive and restart
[09:02] <rubik> enlightenment and a lot of more are not in ubuntu sources list
[09:02] <hs> JaNez, put to cdrom and boot
[09:02] <rubik> !repos
[09:02] <intelikey> !repos
[09:03] <pauldaoust> rubik: e16 is there... you probably want e17 though, right?
[09:03] <JaNez> hs i have benn booted
[09:03] <intelikey> lol   oops.
[09:03] <JaNez> what is the command?
[09:03] <rubik> rite
[09:03] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: then log out of your failsafe session (just type 'exit' in the xterm) and try to log in using the regular GNOME session.
[09:03] <JaNez> for type in the screen
[09:03] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: checked out, .ICEautority is owned by the user I'm trying to login with
[09:03] <b0uncer> already
[09:03] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: poop
[09:03] <JaNez> hs
[09:03] <rubik> i type apt-cache search enlightenment and it doesnt find nothing
[09:03] <hs> JaNez, you have DVD?
[09:03] <JaNez> c
[09:03] <JaNez> cd
[09:04] <hs> JaNez, what is it is saying able to boot?
[09:04] <trinidad> how do i change the size of the icons in the menubar
[09:04] <trinidad> ?
[09:04] <JaNez> the screen of ubuntu
[09:04] <JaNez> and say the option "press to install" :/
[09:04] <rubik> well tnz anyway
[09:04] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: hm, try going rm /tmp/*bouncer* (again substituting your proper username) and then try to log into a graphical session?
[09:05] <JaNez> omfg
[09:05] <JaNez> i have download the install version
[09:05] <JaNez> :/
[09:05] <Nitewalker> hello everyone i was hoping someone could help me ive used synaptic to do some updates for xine and ive also loaded up the w32codecs as well but im still unable to play avi of my brothers wedding im wondering if anyone knows how i can get it to work?
[09:05] <hs> JaNez, then go ahead it wil not ask for partition
[09:05] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: still didn't help :/
[09:05] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: poop poop poop
[09:06] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: I'm stumped; not sure what to suggest now. when you say you updated GNOME... have you just not done any updates for a while, or...?
[09:06] <hs> JaNez, are you sure it is live cd i guess it is installer cd
[09:07] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: last update before that was a week ago
[09:07] <b0uncer> next yesterday evening
[09:07] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: that's funny; I haven't seen any updates to GNOME lately.
[09:07] <b0uncer> yesterday evening everything worked just smoothly (though I didn't log out)
[09:07] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: nautilus updates
[09:07] <b0uncer> I meant
[09:07] <b0uncer> but that's part of Gnome
[09:08] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: guess I installed them without noticing what they were ^_^
[09:08] <b0uncer> I only wonder why other people have no problems even after they have updated the same pkgs as I have
[09:08] <b0uncer> I don't get it
[09:08] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: it's the perennial question.
[09:08] <pauldaoust> (unfortunately, from experience, Windows is no better)
[09:08] <B_166-ER-X> how do i start a service on breezy ?
[09:09] <pauldaoust> B_166-ER-X: if you're fond of the command line, all the service startup scripts are in /etc/init.d
[09:09] <pauldaoust> B_166-ER-X: otherwise, you can go System > Administration > Services to get a funky graphical one
[09:09] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[09:09] <pauldaoust> np
[09:09] <b0uncer> pauldaoust: I'll try rebooting (this is a situation where only magic can help, it seems) so I'll be back in a moment
[09:09] <intelikey> what xorg server modules are needed for minamal gui  freetype?  bitmap?    type1?  ????
[09:09] <b0uncer> -->
[09:09] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: good luck :)
[09:09] <intelikey> none ?
[09:10] <pauldaoust> intelikey: I'm intrigued; what are you attempting/
[09:10] <pauldaoust> ?
[09:10] <intelikey> make x work on this dinosore
[09:11] <pauldaoust> intelikey: gotcha. well, I'd say that... hmm, one sec.
[09:12] <hit3k> How do I define zones in shorewall config?
[09:12] <pauldaoust> intelikey: hum. I'd probably turn off GLX and GLcore... freetype is essential; I don't imagine bitmap uses much resources
[09:12] <vbgunz> anybody know how to get a list of streaming radio networks for Rhythmbox?
[09:12] <b0uncer> omg....the Windows Black Magic (aka reboot) helped!
[09:12] <b0uncer> I can't believe my eyes
[09:12] <b0uncer> first time in years when I have to reboot linux to get it working
[09:12] <intelikey> k  and type1 is probably needed too ?
[09:12] <b0uncer> duhh
[09:12] <vbgunz> b0uncer: what did rebooting help you with?
[09:12] <pauldaoust> vbgunz: search for 'shoutcast' on the 'Net... the Winamp website also has a good list of shoutcast stations
[09:13] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: congranulations!
[09:13] <b0uncer> vbgunz, I was unable to login to Gnome
[09:13] <vbgunz> ahh
[09:13] <pauldaoust> intelikey: biggest thing is to make sure composite is turned off, of course :)
[09:13] <LathropWells> vbgunz - no that is a toughie - streamtuner has a hundred or so for xmms
[09:13] <b0uncer> pauldaoust, thanks for all the tips :) hehe
[09:13] <pauldaoust> intelikey: you must have very, very cramped resources if you can't get X to run...
[09:13] <vbgunz> pauldaoust: I know about shoutcast... I meant a way to easily import a list of hundreds of stations or something...
[09:13] <pauldaoust> b0uncer: no problem; glad they helped.
[09:13] <pauldaoust> vbgunz: naw, sorry mate
[09:13] <siimo> anyone know if ooo 2.0 will be backported to breezy
[09:13] <vbgunz> pauldaoust: its cool
[09:15] <pauldaoust> siimo: probably. I mean, it already has the beta, or one of the release candidates, or somethng.
[09:15] <siimo> pauldaoust, yeah beta is in the cd
[09:16] <pauldaoust> siimo: Ubuntu doesn't do backports (well, at least there are no official backports) but upgrading 1.9.129 to 2.0 isn't so much a backport as an update.
[09:16] <dirkson> Say... I need to execute some commands to get my modem working, and it's really starting to get old to copy&paste 'em in at every startup. Can anyone take a look at 'em and tell me where they should go to log in at boot?
[09:16] <siimo> pauldaoust, hmmm what?
[09:16] <dooglus> dirkson: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:16] <dirkson> Really, that easy? Thanks a lot :D
[09:16] <siimo> pauldaoust, they do do official backports http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=47
[09:17] <dooglus> dirkson: :D
[09:17] <siimo> pauldaoust, its even on the official mirror look : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[09:17] <Nitewalker> does anyone know who to go about installing xine? im currently downloading xine-lib file at the moment and then i will be downloading xine-ui any help is greatly appriecated
[09:18] <dirkson> Dooglus: That is -seriously- going to save me some time and effort. Now just to apply the patch so that the internet works for more than 10 minutes >.<
[09:18] <pauldaoust> siimo: that's new... just a week or two ago I saw a notice that said they wouldn't be doing that :-S
[09:19] <pauldaoust> anyway, folks, the sandman is calling me. I gotta go sleep.
[09:19] <intelikey> my my this system is bloated.....   i can make my other distro (not to be spamming)  run kde and mozilla with only 300m of files installed this is already above 400m and only fluxbox ......
[09:19] <dooglus> dirkson: you've got a patch for that?
[09:20] <dirkson> Dooglus: Yah. It's not designed to go on my kernel, though, so I'm gonna have to try to jury-rig it.
[09:20] <dirkson> Dooglus: I was really hoping that updating to 2.6.14 would solve my issue, but it didn't. Helped a lot, but didn't solve, and brought in some issues of its own.
[09:21] <intelikey> ubangi engeneering ?
[09:22] <dirkson> Say, as long as I'm on here- When I boot my shiney new kernel, it pops up two memory errors, then sits for about two and a half minutes before recommencing boot. Anyone know where I could look to try to see what's going wrong?
[09:22] <dooglus> b0uncer: rebooting completely clears out /tmp - maybe that's why it helped...
[09:23] <dirkson> No guesses? :-/
[09:23] <[Chameleon] > try the memory test
[09:23] <[Chameleon] > maybe you have bad ram
[09:24] <b0uncer> dooglus, hmm...might be
[09:24] <b0uncer> dunno
[09:24] <b0uncer> though I booted my pc this morning, so /tmp had to be empty
[09:24] <marlun> is there a nice way of listening to internet radios that requires windows media?
[09:25] <b0uncer> which means the problem would have to have created itself in a few seconds
[09:25] <dirkson> Could be. That'd make me angry, but it could be. I know my cardbus has some issues with reporting memory oddly, though I'm not sure of the specifivs there
[09:25] <Nitewalker> does anyone know the command to unpack tarballs?
[09:25] <b0uncer> which doesn't sound like a stable system
[09:25] <b0uncer> NigelS, tar -xf
[09:25] <intelikey> dirkson 'dmesg'  might have some info on it.
[09:25] <b0uncer> Nitewalker, I mean
[09:25] <b0uncer> not nigels
[09:26] <b0uncer> tar -xf filename.tar or for gzipped, tar -xzf filename.tar.gz or for bzip2ed, tar -xjf filename.tar.bz2
[09:26] <dirkson> Ahhh, thank you : )
[09:26] <b0uncer> or you could even drop the "-" off and use tar xf instead
[09:27] <Nitewalker> thank you b0uncer
[09:27] <Cindy> how can i add user accounts to ldap?
[09:29] <mattfury> hi.
[09:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> how tight are the ports on a default ubuntu install?
[09:29] <mattfury> could an experienced debian user help me out with a fglrx problem?
[09:31] <rabeldable> anyone know which music players support shockwave streaming?
[09:31] <daHippo> hi
[09:32] <daHippo> ne1 here use opera?
[09:32] <dirkson> Hmm....... Looking in my dmseg, I find this: NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 13: 15:16 PDT 2005
[09:32] <dirkson> device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:32] <dirkson> device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[09:32] <dirkson> device-mapper: error adding target to table
[09:32] <dirkson>  - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?
[09:33] <gerbman> what's the fglrx problem?
[09:33] <rabeldable> dirkson: do you have a 64bit cpu?
[09:33] <mattfury> ?
[09:33] <mattfury> ohh sorry, installing <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:33] <mattfury> (kernel)
[09:34] <mattfury> can you help with another problem first?
[09:34] <dirkson> rabeldable: Amd64, yes
[09:34] <henk> comfigure fails on me because it says c++ cannot create executables. The configure.log says that it cannot find g++, c++ etc. It is right because in stead of g++ on my system i have g++-VERSION with a few different versions. Should i somehow telll me system which g++ to use ?
[09:34] <mattfury> gerbman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4344
[09:35] <mattfury> is the first kernel problem.
[09:35] <cdubya> ah, I think I may have accidentally added a host in the networking applet and now I have a sit0 entry in ifconfig....lo isn't answering anymore on <IP_ADDRESS> and I need to get rid of the sit0 and get lo back on <IP_ADDRESS>.....can someone help me out.....
[09:35] <dirkson> rabeldable: Yes, amd64. Why do you ask?
[09:36] <mattfury> this is the ati problem ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4345
[09:36] <mattfury> quake will work though :D
[09:36] <gerbman> really not sure about the kernel problem
[09:37] <daHippo> help?
[09:37] <daHippo> ne1 know opera?
[09:38] <Nitewalker> i dont sorry daHippo
[09:38] <raphink> which one? Carmen?
[09:38] <aeon17x> daHippo: proper English please.
[09:38] <raphink> Figaro?
[09:38] <daHippo> Oh, sorry.
[09:38] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: there are no listening ports on a default ubuntu install
[09:38] <mattfury> gerbman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4345
[09:39] <mustard5> !opera
[09:39] <dirkson> rabeldable: Yes, amd64. Why do you ask?
[09:39] <sexcopter8000m> daHippo, I don't know opera, but you really need to just ask a proper quesiton: explain what your exact problem/question is and what you've tried already
[09:39] <mustard5> ubuto: tell daHippo about opera
[09:39] <daHippo> Opera, as in the Web Browser Opera (www.opera.com)
[09:39] <vladuz976> anybody know a good program to genreate thumbnails?
[09:39] <dooglus> daHippo: you need to ask a question
[09:40] <daHippo> Ok
[09:40] <raphink> yes most of us know opera daHippo , now what's your problem?
[09:40] <mustard5> daHippo, download from the opera website
[09:40] <gerbman> i'm not sure, i installed the fglrx driver from package
[09:40] <dirkson>  - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?
[09:40] <dirkson> Hmm....... Looking in my dmseg, I find this: NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 13: 15:16 PDT 2005
[09:40] <dirkson> device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:40] <dooglus> vladuz976: imagemagick is good at making thumbnails, amongst other things
[09:40] <mattfury> im using the flavio driver ...
[09:40] <dirkson> device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[09:40] <dirkson> device-mapper: error adding target to table
[09:40] <dirkson>  - But the last two lines are repeated about fifty times. Anyone have any clues as to what's going on -there-?
[09:40] <daHippo> I've connected to a windows printer, through ubuntu, and can print from all my apps, but in opera, the printer doesnt show up
[09:41] <mustard5> heh
[09:41] <raphink> opera sux (hehe)
[09:41] <sexcopter8000m> dirkson, you're spamming. don't do it.
[09:41] <raphink> konqui powa :)
[09:41] <kapputu> rabeldable, I got the printer working, the problem was with the printer itself
[09:41] <raphink> daHippo: does the printer show up in qt apps, like konqueror ?
[09:41] <gerbman> henk, did you try installing the build-essential package
[09:41] <dirkson> Sorry. It's all part of one coherent message, there's just a lot of it.
[09:42] <dooglus> daHippo: I don't have a printer, and I don't use Opera, so I can't help you, other than to suggest that it might be a good idea to use free software - that way people have more of a chance to help you.
[09:42] <sexcopter8000m> dirkson, then use pastebin, don't paste messages here
[09:42] <daHippo> I don't have Konq, but it shows up in Firefox and prints fine from it
[09:42] <raphink> I'm asking about konqueror daHippo
[09:42] <raphink> not about firefox
[09:42] <daHippo> Opera is free (but not opensource)
[09:42] <dirkson> And may I remark how ironic I find it to be lectured on ettiquite by a fellow with a name such as yours : )
[09:43] <sexcopter8000m> dirkson, heh
[09:43] <kapputu> how do I edit sources.list to include extra repositories for Breezy?
[09:43] <daHippo> I didn't install konqueror
[09:44] <mustard5> kapputu sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list will open it in an editor....
[09:44] <mustard5> ubotu: tell kapputu about sources
[09:44] <raphink> how did you install opera daHippo ?
[09:44] <daHippo> synaptic
[09:44] <Nitewalker> once you have unpacked a tarball can u install it jst from the desktop or do u have to go to where its stored?
[09:44] <mustard5> kapputu, and ubotu has sent you links to sources information
[09:44] <Madpilot> daHippo: I run Opera all the time, and just tried printing - it went fine... maybe have a look in Opera's printing options to make sure it sees your printer?
[09:45] <raphink> Madpilot: that's the thing, his printers are not listed in Opera
[09:45] <henk> gerbman, ah that helped
[09:45] <raphink> I dn't have such a pb either. My printers all show in opera
[09:45] <daHippo> that box is empty - no printers show up like in other apps
[09:45] <gerbman> henk, cool
[09:45] <Madpilot> daHippo: what make/model of printer?
[09:45] <daHippo> HP Laserjet 3320