[11:49] <jasin> linux is not the most stable os but i still prefer it to windows.
[11:49] <jasin> windows is just crap.
[11:50] <Admiral_Chicago> jasin: linux has been a lot more stable for me than Windows
[11:50] <Admiral_Chicago> or at least that's my experience
[11:51] <jasin> admiral, dos is more stable then windows lol
[11:51] <digitalfreedom> one time in computer camp i fingered myself
[11:51] <digitalfreedom> hahahahaha
[11:51] <jasin> admiral, so that aint saying much
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yea.
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> the only times my system breaks is when I fiddle around with it too much
[11:52] <jasin> I would get swap space ussage after booting the system in windows.
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> and thats really my own fault
[11:52] <digitalfreedom> nobody likes jokes around jokes here?
[11:52] <jasin> I've never use swap space in linux.
[11:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i rarely use it too
[11:53] <Lynoure> I use it a lot, I like hibernation :)
[11:54] <jasin> linux is very good with memory management
[11:56] <jasin> windows is a freakin memory hog and the more you install the biger bottle neck you create.
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> !mount
[11:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:57] <jasin> I use partition magic myself.
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone guide me on mounting a ext3 partition on a liveCD
[11:58] <genii> bloat: win3.11=5 floppy disks win95=~100Mb win98=~400Mb XP=~1G
[11:58] <jasin> genii, i had 2 gigabytes in xp and it was slow as hell.
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago>   oh wait i know how to do it
[11:59] <jasin> genii, linux is super fast with 2 gigabytes.
[11:59] <genii> yup
[11:59] <genii> I have some p2400 here with 192Mb and 6G hd and they run dapper no problemmo
[11:59] <genii> p2-400Mhz to clarify
[11:59] <jasin> unlike with windows, i can specific in the kernel how much memory is in my system.
[11:59] <llutz> genii: first slackware i got = 50 3.5" floppy disks :(
[12:00] <genii> cpm/80=800K 5 1/4"
[12:01] <jasin> I used rehat, and fedora, for many years.  Now I use exclusivly a debian based distro; ubuntu is my favorite.
[12:01] <mc__> debian is the best
[12:02] <Linux_Galore> jasin: so windows uses 60mb+ of ram even though you dont even use office for that session
[12:02] <jasin> linux_galore, i use abiword, nothing else.
[12:02] <jasin> linux_galore, i wont use an office suite
[12:02] <Linux_Galore> jasin: you dont have to use office for it to suck up the ram, office pre loads when you boot
[12:03] <jasin> linux, not on my system it dont :)
[12:03] <Linux_Galore> jasin: unless you hack the registry is always pre loads
[12:03] <Linux_Galore> it*
[12:04] <genii> mc__ Well ubuntu is of debian heritage :) But for the hardcore I'd say pure debian is the way
[12:04] <Linux_Galore> jasin: OpenOffice has a pre loader too called oooqs, makes it open super fast when you click on a file
[12:04] <genii> jasin I think he's talking about M$ windoze
[12:04] <Linux_Galore> jasin: but unlike office , its optional
[12:05] <malc_> I installed nvidia drivers and graphics work fine (apart from videos).  But since then the keyboard shortcuts for Amarok don't work (ie WindowsKey + B for next song) can anyone help?
[12:05] <jasin> linux, I dont use open office
[12:05] <Linux_Galore> genii: lol, like one would bother running M$ office in Linux
[12:05] <genii> Xandros is working on that with CodeWeavers
[12:05] <Linux_Galore> jasin: so you never open a doc file
[12:06] <Linux_Galore> genii: Ive got codeweavers at work, office XP works fine with it under Linux
[12:06] <jasin> linux, yep i do, in abiword.
[12:07] <Linux_Galore> jasin: abiword it gtk and render like crap
[12:07] <Linux_Galore> is*
[12:07] <jasin> linux, yep i do, in abiword or on the windows machine.
[12:07] <jasin> abiword works fine for me.
[12:07] <mc__> genii: i think debian is still better for servers
[12:07] <mc__> genii: debian stable of course
[12:07] <Linux_Galore> jasin: gtk looks like rubbish in windows
[12:07] <jasin> no problems whatsoever
[12:08] <mc__> genii: and sid is nice for the bleeding edge guys
[12:08] <genii> mc__ for the hardcore serving I'm somewhat divided between freeBSD and Debian
[12:08] <jasin> thats fine, you use what you like.
[12:08] <mc__> genii: FreeBSD has jails,they really rock
[12:09] <genii> mc__ Right now at work we use a debian based machine with a bunch of virtual servers, some are FreeBSD
[12:09] <genii> previously we used sunos
[12:10] <genii> We are switching entirely to debian but we have legacy stuff that runs only on the old bsd boxen for now
[12:10] <Linux_Galore> genii: you would love Nexenta, Open Solaris with Ubuntu packages. even has apt-get
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> genii: Ive got Nexenta on a machine because I want to play with ZFS
[12:11] <genii> Isn't solaris10 free now ?
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> genii: opensolaris is
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> genii: solaris is the comercial arm
[12:12] <aspedia> I want to secure apache -site with htaccess. Im using htpasswd2- the file is created , apache is restarted but when I get the site then there is no auth. Apache is not executing .htaccess
[12:12] <aspedia> what is missing or wrong?
[12:12] <aspedia> can someon help?
[12:12] <genii> Yeah we got licences with our Sunfire boxes we never used. We ended up with amd64 debian
[12:13] <Linux_Galore> genii: why ??, just swap to OpenSolaris, Debian amd64 port is rubbish
[12:13] <genii> aspedia I suspect you need to set up an entry for it in apache2.conf (or equivelent)
[12:14] <jasin> linux_galore, dont like anything lol
[12:14] <jasin> linux_galore dont like anything lol
[12:14] <Linux_Galore> jasin: no, right tool for the right job
[12:14] <mc__> genii: what virtualisation are you using?
[12:14] <aspedia> what for an entry
[12:15] <genii> Some ppl are fussy :) Or perhaps "discerning" is more politically correct
[12:15] <aspedia> ?
[12:15] <jasin> genii, thats obvious hehe
[12:15] <jasin> linux_galore yeah sure, whatever.
[12:16] <Linux_Galore> jasin: Sun run solaris on there "enterprise servers" with AMD64 cpu's
[12:16] <genii> aspedia First you need to put that .htaccess file in the directory you are trying to protect. Then usually in the virtual servers or Aliases section of the apache conf files you make an entry which has an appropriate line to use the .htaccess file.
[12:16] <Linux_Galore> jasin: not if you want to risk you company on a few hackers from Debian who dont get paid, go for it
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> s/not/now/
[12:17] <genii> mc__ we are using Xen
[12:17] <jasin> bs, anything connected to an open network like the internet -- is hackable.
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> jasin: your missing the point, this isnt a security issue
[12:18] <mc__> genii: Xen is nice,but i prefer OpenVZ
[12:18] <genii> aspedia http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/htaccess.html
[12:19] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: What? Most ubuntu developers do not get paid either.
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: yes but many do
[12:19] <jasin> nothing connected to the internet is 100% secure.
[12:19] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: How many?
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: your answering my question for me
[12:19] <jasin> Nothing!
[12:20] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: I was under impression that just a handful.
[12:20] <genii> Yeah our X2100 came with opterons (165 I think)
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: and debian has fewer
[12:20] <crimsun> Linux_Galore: "many" is roughly a dozen.
[12:20] <heinkel_111> hello..i have a problem with almost all my kde applications, they seem to crash at shutdown with a SIGSEGV erorr message
[12:20] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: It's still ugly to imply that means using debian is dangerous
[12:20] <heinkel_111> i cannot figure out what is broken
[12:21] <heinkel_111> it is maybe some of my kde settings files which needs replacing?
[12:21] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: no but if Im a Solaris shop and my hardware is solaris freindly last thing I would do is swap to Debian
[12:21] <genii> heinkel You should run memtest
[12:21] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: s/debian/linux ?
[12:21] <heinkel_111> can i run that from konsole?
[12:21] <heinkel_111> genii?
[12:21] <jasin> its probably not his memory.
[12:22] <genii> segment faults are usually some mem prob
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: why would I swap from an OS with zero issues to a maybe has no issues OS
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: considering both are open source now
[12:23] <genii> heinkel No, not from konsole. You need to select it at boot time by hitting TAB key when grub starts. Then you choose it from there to boot up to. It will scan your ram to see if it has a problem.
[12:23] <jasin> Their  usually an Abnormal termination of some process
[12:24] <heinkel_111> thank you genii
[12:24] <genii> If the memory goes through 5 or 6 passes of memtest without problem then it is indicating software
[12:24] <heinkel_111> ok
[12:24] <heinkel_111> will run then
[12:24] <genii> if it does not pass memtes, replace your ram
[12:24] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: I could not find the OpenSolaris bug database on a quick googling, so I cannot verify it having zero issues. But oh well.
[12:24] <emiliano75> buongiorno a tutti
[12:25] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: were talking AMD64 Sun stuff, issues would be near and far on hardware
[12:25] <xpapiez> hi je tu nekdo?
[12:25] <xpapiez> Hi all, is anybody here?
[12:25] <emiliano75> i have a problem with kaffeine and video files..... video jump
[12:26] <emiliano75> how can resolve this problem?
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> emiliano75: use mplayer
[12:26] <jasin> Open solaris bugs: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=11
[12:26] <emiliano75> ok, i try... thanks :-)
[12:26] <Lynoure> Linux_Galore: Thank for keeping close track on it :)
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> emiliano75: I recompiled kaffeine to support mplayer as the engine
[12:27] <genii> heinkel If memtest passes your ram return here for other help
[12:27] <jasin> opensolaris-bugs Archives: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-bugs/
[12:27] <xpapiez> I have ntb and new system - it is ubuntu. I want to have ne kernel
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> emiliano75: when I get video play issues I just swap to the mplayer engine in kaffeine and it seems to fix it
[12:27] <xpapiez> the latest kernel has modules which i need to run DVB-T and my camera
[12:27] <xpapiez> is any there who is able to set up .config?
[12:28] <Linux_Galore> Lynoure: of course their will be bug in opensolaris its now having to sun on a mixed bag of hardware, in this case its Solaris spec hardware
[12:29] <Linux_Galore> run*
[12:29] <xpapiez> please help me
[12:30] <mindspin> xpapiez: waht do you want?
[12:30] <xpapiez> set up .config from the latest kernel
[12:31] <xpapiez> I really do not know what I need
[12:31] <mindspin> you want to compile your own ?
[12:31] <xpapiez> yes
[12:31] <mindspin> any reasons for it?
[12:32] <xpapiez> there is module for my DVB-T, camera
[12:32] <mindspin> ok
[12:32] <genii> xpapiez you do not need to recompile your kernel for that
[12:32] <mindspin> can't you load the mudeles?
[12:32] <mindspin> modules even
[12:33] <xpapiez> is not better to input it to kernel?
[12:33] <genii> xpapiez What is the file extension on the module you are trying to istall for your DVB-T,camera etc? .deb? .tar.gz or similar?
[12:33] <mindspin> not inmy view
[12:34] <xpapiez> it is in the latest qc-usb_tree
[12:35] <genii> xpapiez OK, but what I am trying to discover is whether you need to compile the module/driver from scratch or
[12:35] <Vladdy-> hmm..
[12:36] <genii> whether it is somehwere now on your system and you just need to insert the module
[12:36] <xpapiez> ok, I try to find out the module and insert it.
[12:37] <genii> do you have the exact name of this module/file??
[12:37] <xpapiez> I thought that is better to kompile a new kernel.
[12:37] <xpapiez> dvb_usb_dtt200u
[12:37] <genii> even if you have to compile a new module you will not have to recompile the kernel
[12:38] <xpapiez> v4l1_compat v4l2_common
[12:38] <genii> OK give me a minute to go find out about this module
[12:40] <genii> It is for a memory device. It seems you do not need to compile it
[12:41] <genii> to see if it is already on your system try modprobe -l dvb_usb_dtt200u
[12:42] <Hurley1> hi
[12:42] <xpapiez> no there is any result
[12:43] <genii> OK did you download this thing already?
[12:44] <xpapiez> yes
[12:44] <genii> xpapiez this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183297
[12:46] <xpapiez> thanks a lot
[12:46] <genii> xpapiez Have fun :)
[12:49] <kolo> hi
[12:50] <eilker> gconfd (maksim-5613): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0 //  any idea for this ? why gconf ? i use kde..
[01:05] <eilker> !gconf
[01:05] <ubotu> gconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[01:07] <VincentMX> what's the name for the 64bit kernel in edgy?
[01:07] <lealjr> ol sou novo em usar Kubuntu
[01:08] <VincentMX> !brazilian
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brazilian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <lealjr> gostaria de alguma dica de como fao para obter material para estudar esse so
[01:08] <VincentMX> !spanish
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <VincentMX> ###!
[01:09] <VincentMX> lealjr: espanol is in #kubuntu-es
[01:09] <VincentMX> brazilian is the same as spanish right?
[01:10] <js1990> how do i join channels, coz i dno ne channel names
[01:10] <marciomra> hi?
[01:11] <VincentMX> /join #channel
[01:11] <js1990> ??
[01:11] <marciomra> alguem fala portugues ai?
[01:11] <eilker> !br
[01:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:12] <VincentMX> it was that easy?
[01:12] <VincentMX> just the extension?
[01:12] <VincentMX> i thought you needed to type !brazialian
[01:12] <eilker> vincentmx: brazilian is different from spanish
[01:12] <VincentMX> ok
[01:31] <noobi> a
[01:31] <noobi> salut
[01:31] <k-osh> !fr
[01:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:31] <noobi> fr
[01:32] <noobi> !fr
[01:32] <k-osh> Je ne comprends pas. English here only.
[01:32] <noobi> ok
[01:32] <noobi> sorry
[01:32] <k-osh> No worries.
[01:33] <noobi> is there any fr
[01:33] <k-osh> !fr
[01:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:34] <k-osh> Join any of those two and you should find some french speaking people there.
[01:35] <ricanelite> who here is running Ubuntu Edgy on a Apple Machine?
[01:40] <ricanelite> Does anyone here run MacOnLinux?
[01:59] <sistemas> good mornig
[01:59] <sistemas> morning
[02:00] <sistemas> I'm woriking in a small webapp in Quanta Plus
[02:00] <sistemas> but this IDE colapse continously
[02:08] <B-Minus> im gonna install windows vista to use photoshop on my laptop, if my MBR will be overwriten, how can i repair it so i can see grub ?
[02:11] <Zamber> B-Minus consider using GIMPshop
[02:12] <B-Minus> i am but its not as good as photoshop
[02:12] <B-Minus> im using like 'more then standard tools'
[02:12] <B-Minus> i want multiple layer adjustements etc
[02:12] <B-Minus> not possible with gimp
[02:17] <Vladdy-> yay, w32.parite.b works under wine :D
[02:30] <arconis> fff
[02:30] <arconis> my firefox is getting fuck
[02:32] <blizzzek> could someone describe to me what "liable to get sued" means?
[02:34] <blizzzek> is it equal to "you may get charged" ?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> blizzzek: it means you can be sued
[02:35] <blizzzek> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[02:35] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:38] <shenmue> Hi, the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel cannot power off automatically?
[02:39] <Vladdy-> of course it can :O
[02:40] <shenmue> But when I shutdown my pc, I have to press the power button manually
[02:40] <xwolf-> i need to merge some free space to my ext3 partition. i looked through gparted and qtparted but none of them seems to have what i want. how can i do that?
[02:40] <DexterF> hi
[02:41] <shenmue> When I use i386 kernel, it can halt though
[02:42] <DexterF> friend of mine (linux knowledge = about apple user) runs kubuntu 6.06 on a machine behind a NAT-router. I'd like so see what's going on on her screen
[02:43] <DexterF> so - easiest way to have that secure? I thought about x11vnc, but that's unencrypted and requires a port fwd, right?
[02:44] <Vladdy-> err
[02:44] <Vladdy-> spying on people?
[02:45] <Vladdy-> best is openssh port forwarding + vnc :P
[02:45] <DexterF> ah, bad chioce of words on my part: no, *supporting* people
[02:46] <DexterF> I talked her into trying kub instead of windows so naturally I have to do some support work
[02:46] <Vladdy-> tightvnc is unsecure, but if you use openssh port forwarding, all data is sent encrypted
[02:46] <DexterF> well. which means I would need an account on her machine
[02:47] <Vladdy-> yep
[02:48] <DexterF> kub has no built in remote support capabilites, huh? should file a feature request for v7...
[02:48] <Vladdy-> well, kubuntu has some
[02:48] <Vladdy-> but it uses vnc
[02:48] <Vladdy-> krfb
[02:48] <DexterF> hmmm.
[02:50] <Vladdy-> but NAT is evil :-/
[02:51] <DexterF> requires port fw, too
[02:53] <Vladdy-> and by the way, port forwarding can work both ways
[02:53] <gan|y|med> hi
[02:53] <Vladdy-> if you have your ssh open, she can forward her port to you
[02:53] <gan|y|med> ok, you might call me "old-fashioned", but i really don't like some of the  improvements in edgy
[02:55] <gan|y|med> oh god, it keeps adding up...
[02:58] <gan|y|med> i have a problem with opera. after having upgraded from 8.x it seems that it does not interpret any css spacing/margins. any ideas what this could be? clearing the configs doesn't help...
[03:00] <olegfink> gan|y|med: switching to konqueror/fireofx?
[03:00] <gan|y|med> of course, THAT is a solution
[03:00] <olegfink> hehe
[03:00] <gan|y|med> would i ask for remedy then?
[03:01] <gan|y|med> ok, you had your fun. any SERIOUS suggestions?
[03:01] <shenmue> can konqueror use firefox extensions?
[03:01] <mc__> shenmue: nope
[03:01] <Vladdy-> only its plugins iirc
[03:02] <olegfink> gan|y|med: is that on linux only?
[03:02] <gan|y|med> yes
[03:02] <gan|y|med> windows works fine
[03:03] <gan|y|med> how is the program file for the ati control panel called (my link is broken)?
[03:09] <olegfink> gan|y|med: hmm maybe to try bugsearch on opera website?
[03:09] <gan|y|med> i'll try. though i was not very successful on google. thx anyway. strange error though...
[03:11] <ScottA> I'm still having a problem getting my wireless card working, and the documentation on Ubuntu is of no help to me. I have Kubuntu 6.10, and a Linksys PCI Wifi Adapter
[03:11] <olegfink> gan|y|med: can you detail it a bit ? I agree a bit strange :)
[03:11] <ScottA> can anyone help me?
[03:12] <gan|y|med> ok. when i use opera 8 web sites look what we may label normal. but in opera 9 everything is tightened up as if the margins and border tags are not considered at all (like cellspacing and -padding = 0)
[03:13] <ScottA> its with opera
[03:13] <gan|y|med> ScottA: just ask
[03:13] <ScottA> I remember something like this happened to me on my win machine
[03:13] <ScottA> ^
[03:13] <gan|y|med> how did you solve it?
 I'm still having a problem getting my wireless card working, and the documentation on Ubuntu is of no help to me. I have Kubuntu 6.10, and a Linksys PCI Wifi Adapter
[03:14] <ScottA> ganymed: hold on
[03:14] <rainer> hello, I am running edgy and have enabled main, restricted, universe and multiverse repositories with the edgy, edgy-updates and edgy-security archives. when I try to update/install new packages through aptitude, most of them fail. A debconf window pops up and says incorrect nice value, needs something between -20 and 19. the console error output is se of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm
[03:14] <rainer> line 104, <GEN3> line 4.
[03:15] <gan|y|med> rainer: is this an update?
[03:15] <rainer> any ideas? :) it worked fine until some time ago, that problem suddenly started appearing
[03:15] <rainer> no idea, it happens at "preconfiguring packages..."
[03:15] <B-Minus> im gonna install windows vista to use photoshop on my laptop, if my MBR will be overwriten, how can i repair it so i can see grub ?
[03:15] <gan|y|med> have you upgraded from dapper?
[03:15] <rainer> no, clean kubuntu edgy install from release iso
[03:16] <rainer> it worked until some time ago, that problem suddenly started appearing today (havn't upgraded packages for a week or so)
[03:16] <ScottA> ganymed: In Opera 9, try View > Fit To Window
[03:16] <gan|y|med> try to update your file cache and reinstall xorg (best from console if there is still one in edgy, couldn't open it so far)
[03:17] <gan|y|med> aaahhh, looks horrible
[03:17] <ScottA> still squished?
[03:17] <rainer> also what confused me, right after installing there was a package conflict (apt could solve but there was one). looked very strange to me :)
[03:17] <gan|y|med> yes, no distances between the elements at all, even with a clean config
[03:17] <sdlnxgk> Good Morning Everyone !!!  Have A Great Weekend !!!
[03:18] <gan|y|med> rainer: have you tried to reinstall xorg
[03:18] <gan|y|med> ?
[03:18] <ScottA> hmm. Is it like, all to one side in a narrow column?
[03:18] <rainer> no, but doing so now
[03:19] <rainer> gan|y|med: you are right, when I press "Cancel" in that debconf window all the xorg packages come up with the same failure so it's probably related to that (which sounds like I am not the first one having that problem :)
[03:21] <sdlnxgk> Anyone using mythtv??? where  can I find the best  card for kubuntu??
[03:21] <ScottA> Can anyone help me with my wifi problem anyways?
[03:22] <gan|y|med> rainer: do "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install xorg" (or whatever it is called). look at "apt-get help" to find the exact command for reinstalling as it has changed since i used it last time, i think
[03:22] <rainer> apt-get --reinstall install ;)
[03:22] <rainer> but same error
[03:23] <gan|y|med> ScottA: no, it is just sqeezed togehter
[03:23] <gan|y|med> th
[03:23] <gan|y|med> have you updated the repos?
[03:23] <ScottA> hmmm.
[03:23] <ScottA> try reinstalling it.
[03:23] <gan|y|med> hey, i am ot a noob :)
[03:24] <gan|y|med> n
[03:24] <ScottA> lol, srry.
[03:24] <dwb222> hey guys, i am having trouble with my dell inspiron 500m. it worked but not has a  very slow moving touchpad mouse after using some bad sources.list
[03:24] <dwb222> can anyone help?
[03:25] <ScottA> I suppose none of you have any idea how to get wifi working?!
[03:25] <Vladdy-> ScottA: depends, is the card found?
[03:25] <ScottA> no
[03:25] <Vladdy-> then you need to know what card you have..
[03:25] <ScottA> Linksys WMP54GS with SpeedBooster
[03:26] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:26] <Vladdy-> hmm,
[03:27] <Vladdy-> unless I'm mistaking, linux v<IP_ADDRESS> will work with it, need to extract firmware with fwcutter though
[03:27] <rainer> gan|y|med: I fixed it...I did dpkg-reconfigure debconf and changed it to ask questions in dialog interface, not KDE and no errors anymore..seems it's related to the Qt debconf interface :)
[03:28] <ScottA> I tried using fwcutter, but it kept saying 'couln't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter'
[03:28] <gan|y|med> sry, was busy
[03:28] <Vladdy-> it's in my repository
[03:29] <gan|y|med> ScottA: what is your wifi problem?
[03:29] <ScottA> I can't get my card to work.
[03:29] <Vladdy-> !sources
[03:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:29] <ScottA> hold on
[03:29] <gan|y|med> rainer: oh yes, that is the other possibility. sorry, it has been a long time since this error appeared on my debian box. but good to know
[03:30] <DrCub> hi ScottA
[03:30] <Vladdy-> ScottA: it's in universe
[03:30] <gan|y|med> are there kernel modules for your card?
[03:30] <ScottA> I already enable the universe repositories.
[03:30] <ScottA> hld
[03:30] <Vladdy-> did you run apt-get update then?
[03:31] <ScottA> ?
[03:31] <ScottA> hld
[03:32] <ScottA> I can't connect to the net, so nothing works. :(
[03:32] <Vladdy-> scotta: you have to use wired connection on that pc for now
[03:32] <sdlnxgk> I tired to get my wifi working but had lots of issues with win drivers for a linksys card
[03:32] <ScottA> It just gave me 'failed to fetch' for everything
[03:33] <ScottA> mm
[03:33] <ScottA> thx anyways
[03:33] <Vladdy-> because you need to do some stuff that requires network connection
[03:33] <sdlnxgk> there are web pages out there that say you can use ndiwrapper and windows driver to get it working but haven't yet
[03:33] <ScottA> right.
[03:34] <CyberAlan> couldn't he use like a thumb drive?
[03:34] <Vladdy-> yeah, can transfer files with that
[03:35] <ScottA> How can I use a thumb drive?
[03:35] <gan|y|med> ou can press F12 to open the "Quick preferences" menu. From this menu, try to experiment with the different "Identify as..." settings
[03:35] <gan|y|med> there is NO Identify as... anymore!
[03:36] <Vladdy-> ScottA: easiest is to download on other pc with internet
[03:36] <ScottA> right. where do I go about geting the files I need?
[03:40] <gan|y|med> ok, this browser is driving me crazy. why do they remove the identification option???
[03:41] <gan|y|med> it is not that they a "significant" market share
[03:41] <gan|y|med> have to go for a mom
[03:41] <B-Minus> ok
[03:42] <soulrider> !info gconf
[03:42] <ubotu> gconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[03:42] <B-Minus> i damaged my grub by installing windows vista, how can i repair it ?
[03:42] <soulrider> its not a good idea to put that in kubuntu right ?
[03:42] <soulrider> !grub
[03:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:42] <B-Minus> tnx
[03:43] <soulrider> B-Minus: i installed vista 2 days ago
[03:43] <soulrider> and i screwed it up too :P
[03:43] <BluesKaj> which Vista?
[03:43] <soulrider> RTM or something
[03:44] <soulrider> who craes
[03:44] <B-Minus> heh
[03:44] <soulrider> its not like im keeping it
[03:44] <B-Minus> i only need it for photoshop
[03:44] <soulrider> just wanted to give it a try
[03:44] <soulrider> yeah
[03:44] <soulrider> i need windows for that too
[03:44] <soulrider> but i heard ou can use it on wine
[03:44] <B-Minus> i tried but its not the same
[03:45] <B-Minus> and a little buggy
[03:45] <B-Minus> some things cant be used etc
[03:45] <soulrider> yeah, all apps look really ugly under wine too :P
[03:45] <soulrider> oh, really ?
[03:45] <B-Minus> ye
[03:45] <soulrider> its sdo annoying
[03:45] <soulrider> how vista pops up security warnings every 5 secs
[03:45] <B-Minus> hehe
[03:45] <soulrider> and asks you if you were the one that started something
[03:45] <B-Minus> you cracked it ?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> photoshop in XP works well enuff
[03:45] <soulrider> BluesKaj: i use it on XP
[03:46] <BluesKaj> right
[03:46] <B-Minus> i dont think there is anyhting in vista that cant be done in linux
[03:46] <B-Minus> but i really want photoshop :s
[03:46] <BluesKaj> tried vista RC a wheile back but it wasn't ready for Nero or Google earth or any out of the ordinary progs
[03:47] <B-Minus> gimp is good but it gets beaten by PS in many ways
[03:47] <soulrider> yeah
[03:47] <soulrider> i still cant use gimp preoperly
[03:47] <B-Minus> i can my made my christmas card with gimp :p
[03:48] <mc__> yeah gimp really needs improvements
[03:48] <soulrider> its a great app, but you need to re learn the interface
[03:48] <B-Minus> ye
[03:48] <soulrider> and if youre not a graphics designer, its kinda hard
[03:48] <B-Minus> i didnt try gimpshop yet
[03:48] <soulrider> plus
[03:48] <soulrider> i havnt seen many good tutorials
[03:48] <LjL> the GIMP needs improvements, yes. the 'rm' command can be used to patch it
[03:48] <B-Minus> idd
[03:49] <B-Minus> i have a 3 DVD tutorial for PS CS2 :p
[03:49] <mc__> i thinkd gimp's problem is not the user interface,which i prefer over ps
[03:49] <B-Minus> total training :p
[03:49] <soulrider> B-Minus: :O
[03:49] <mc__> gimp simply doesnt have all the nice features
[03:49] <B-Minus> + one other thing, when i print with gimp the quality seems to be really bad i dont know what am doing wrong
[03:50] <BluesKaj> photoshoplearning curve is pretty tough too
[03:50] <soulrider> i never print anything :P
[03:50] <B-Minus> i need to put the jpeg to a memstick and put the memstick in the printer and print lol
[03:51] <soulrider> maybe if you use PNG?
[03:51] <_Vladdy> B-Minus: sudo grub
[03:51] <_Vladdy> root (hd0,XX)
[03:51] <_Vladdy> setup (hd0) and grub is back :O
[03:51] <soulrider> it may not be 0 though
[03:51] <soulrider> do this
[03:52] <soulrider> find /boot/grub/stage1
[03:52] <soulrider> that will tell you
[03:55] <soulrider> !neatbeans
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about neatbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <verzonnen> !me
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <soulrider> does anyone know where ic an find good python tutorials ?
[03:58] <Zamber> soulrider look on google ;P
[03:59] <soulrider> ..
[03:59] <soulrider> maybe someoen was reading some tutorials
[03:59] <soulrider> and could suggest something
[03:59] <Zamber> eventualny install ecipse and download tuts for it
[03:59] <delight> soulrider maybe u are looking for netbeans not neatbeans :-)
[03:59] <soulrider> oh damn
[03:59] <soulrider> i allways make typ0s
[03:59] <soulrider> i use eclipse for everything
[04:00] <Zamber> ;)
[04:00] <delight> me 2
[04:00] <soulrider> just wanted to try netbeans
[04:00] <delight> i did .. but ..
[04:00] <delight> eclipse rocks
[04:00] <soulrider> lol, neatbeans sounds so dirty :P
[04:00] <Zamber> xD
[04:00] <soulrider> the visual editor for java in eclipse is terrible
[04:00] <soulrider> its way too slow
[04:01] <Zamber> well, sometimes
[04:01] <mc__> soulrider: thats a linux problem
[04:01] <Zamber> it depends on your hardware :P
[04:01] <soulrider> not sometimes, allways :P
[04:01] <soulrider> mc__: its even wors ein windows i think
[04:01] <mc__> soulrider: nope
[04:01] <soulrider> Zamber: i got a good computer
[04:01] <mc__> i've got an Athlon X2 4400+
[04:01] <mc__> with linux it runs still to slow
[04:02] <delight> soulrider: the one in netbeans is not better .. i hate that locked source
[04:02] <delight> it got that form file and everything
[04:02] <mc__> in school we got an Sempron 2700+,where it runs smooth
[04:02] <stamen> hi
[04:02] <stamen> I have a problem
[04:02] <delight> matisse is good ... but hey jdk6 is on the doorstep and you won't need matisse
[04:03] <stamen> I changed my PSU and now my kubuntu can't start the X server
[04:03] <stamen> it shows me only @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[04:03] <stamen> all over the screen
[04:03] <stamen> how to fix this
[04:03] <soulrider> =/
[04:03] <stamen> some ideas?
[04:03] <soulrider> i dont know, sorry
[04:04] <gan|y|med> ok, who the hell removed the consoles from the standard config. that is just gross
[04:04] <Zamber> stamen you can reconfigure xorg.conf with the wizard or by hand
[04:04] <FabienD> hi all. did anyone of you successfully run WSAD 5 ?
[04:04] <delight> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:05] <stamen> how to add DNS servers in linux?
[04:05] <Kiongku> hey anyone knows how to set monitor resolution to 96 dpi in xorg.conf?
[04:05] <_Vladdy> stamen: add them to /etc/resolv.conf
[04:05] <gan|y|med> resolv.conf
[04:06] <verzonnen> stamen: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[04:06] <_Vladdy> err
[04:06] <_Vladdy> One reply is enough!
[04:06] <verzonnen> damn lag
[04:06] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program that can put a console in my desktop, kind of how conky shows the stats
[04:07] <ubuntu_> hello
[04:07] <soulrider> hi ubuntu_
[04:07] <pierreth> hello soulrider
[04:07] <pierreth> i no longer see my desktop when i am booting
[04:08] <soulrider> what do you mean ?
[04:08] <pierreth> how can I fix it^
[04:08] <pierreth> I mean my machine start...
[04:08] <RadiantFire> does anyone know where the embedding group options for konqeuror are stored, like for graphics applications and text applications?
[04:08] <pierreth> but I don t see the login for kde
[04:08] <soulrider> oh
[04:08] <soulrider> uhm, i dont know
[04:08] <pierreth> i have a black screen instead
[04:08] <soulrider> have you tried doing jdeinit from a console ?
[04:09] <soulrider> thats what i would do
[04:09] <pierreth> no
[04:09] <pierreth> how can I do that?
[04:09] <soulrider> wel,, wheny ou boot, doesnt it show a console?
[04:09] <soulrider> saying
[04:09] <soulrider> login:
[04:09] <soulrider> you put your username, pass
[04:09] <pierreth> no
[04:09] <soulrider> oh
[04:10] <soulrider> is the screen just black ? =/
[04:10] <delight> pierreth what about ctrl+alt+f1
[04:10] <pierreth> delight: and then^
[04:10] <soulrider> and then your username
[04:10] <pierreth> it is booting normally
[04:10] <soulrider> pass
[04:10] <soulrider> and kde init
[04:10] <delight> and then loging and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:10] <soulrider> yeha, that too :P
[04:10] <pierreth> i did the last one
[04:10] <soulrider> i need to go take a shower
[04:10] <soulrider> bbl
[04:11] <pierreth> OK, I will try this
[04:11] <pierreth> thank you
[04:11] <DeadS0ul> anybody having trouble with kwallet in edgy?
[04:12] <delight> !MergedFB
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MergedFB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <DeadS0ul> for some werid reason kwallet never starts up when I log in, and it loses all my passwords whenever I restart X
[04:13] <Kiongku> anyone here knows how to modify xorg.conf?
[04:14] <verzonnen> DeadS0ul: I turned of kwallet and got the induvidua apps to store the passwords
[04:14] <stamen> !xserver
[04:14] <verzonnen> induvidual*
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <stamen> !x
[04:14] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:15] <stamen> !nvidia
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:16] <gan|y|med> ok, what is the sense of a navigation bar without having anything to navigate with? how is this an "improvement"? m$ couldn't have done it "better"...
[04:16] <DeadS0ul> verzonnen: I see
[04:18] <_Vladdy> !flash
[04:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:18] <verzonnen> DeadS0ul: I figured that if some one can hack this machine they can get all my passwords anyway
[04:18] <DeadS0ul> meh i'm not worried bout that
[04:19] <DeadS0ul> i just wanna get it working
[04:20] <verzonnen> DeadS0ul: well you can do what I did and disable kwallet
[04:22] <DeadS0ul> how do I do that?
[04:22] <_Vladdy> ah, that's why apt-get stopped working, it tried to download from an ipv6 address :O
[04:24] <DeadS0ul> i remember i had to remove the ipv6 module for my kubuntu box to get my networking working
[04:24] <Vladdy-> made a small script that sets up ipv6to4 tunnel
[04:25] <Vladdy-> works with tun6to4 <ipv4 address>
[04:25] <DeadS0ul> heh i just blacklisted the module
[04:25] <verzonnen> who uses ipv6 at home/work and why?
[04:25] <Vladdy-> just because I can :-)
[04:25] <DeadS0ul> no point criticizing man
[04:25] <Vladdy-> hehe
[04:26] <DeadS0ul> different ways of soloving problems
[04:26] <verzonnen> Vladdy-: good reason
[04:26] <Vladdy-> [16:25]  [Whois]  Vladdy- is n=maart@2002:9163:93b9:a:bad:cafe:dead:babe (maarten)
[04:26] <verzonnen> lol
[04:29] <verzonnen> I know what ipv6 is and why it is going to be used, just wondering why it's implemented on most linux versions already while almost  no one seems to be using it
[04:29] <verzonnen> I would love to see ipv6 implemented tomorrow though
[04:30] <Vladdy-> well
[04:30] <abionnnn> do the broadcom bluetooth dongle drivers come with ubuntu?
[04:30] <Vladdy-> easy to get it working :O
[04:31] <abionnnn> *kernel module
[04:31] <Vladdy-> if your provider supports it
[04:31] <abionnnn> Hmmm lemme check with Mr. Belkin :P
[04:31] <Vladdy-> try, ping <IP_ADDRESS> and pray for a reply
[04:32] <abionnnn> got a reply...
[04:32] <Vladdy-> create a shell script with the contents of http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/412
[04:33] <Vladdy-> then just do './script youripv4addr' and try to connect to ipv6.chat.freenode.net
[04:34] <Vladdy-> needs to be run with sudo
[04:34] <abionnnn> other than a cool hostname what advantage does it give you to tunnel through that? :P
[04:34] <Vladdy-> access all ipv6
[04:35] <verzonnen> ipv6 does encryption and i think that is kind of cool
[04:41] <verzonnen> ttl 255 ?
[04:42] <verzonnen> isn't that kind of high?
[04:42] <pierreth> hello, i still have the black screen problem
[04:43] <pierreth> when do I kdeinit...
[04:43] <pierreth> it says it has a problem with KUnique register
[04:43] <cathal> update manager doesnt start automaticly when i log in, cant find the program in system services, where can i set this program to start automaticly?
[04:43] <pierreth> cathal: yes
[04:44] <pierreth> cathal: put in your .kde/Autostart
[04:44] <pierreth> cathal: in your home folder
[04:44] <Zamber> cathal run sudo apt-get autoupdate
[04:45] <daseeb> hi! I want to create a .deb package from a tool I have written myself. Can you give me a link to some documenattion how to do this? All howtos I've found take debian sources and build a package out of them
[04:46] <pierreth> hello i am unable able to boot kde
[04:46] <Zamber> and?
[04:46] <daseeb> I also have no standard make files with my program because I don't use gcc
[04:47] <pierreth> Zamber: i can start my machine...
[04:47] <pierreth> Zamber: it boots my at the time to display the login window...
[04:47] <Zamber> you se your terminal, right?
[04:47] <cathal> Zamber: autoupdate package doesn't exist for me, is it a certain repository?
[04:48] <pierreth> Zamber: i have a black screen
[04:48] <Zamber> cahal it's a apt-get command
[04:48] <Zamber> sudo apt-get autoupdate
[04:48] <Zamber> it ubdates automaticaly packages that have newer versions
[04:48] <pierreth> Zamber: i am using kde by booting from the dvd
[04:49] <Zamber> cathal go to your xorg.0.log
[04:49] <Zamber> and search for (WW)
[04:50] <Zamber> its innn...
[04:50] <Zamber> /var/log/xorg.0.log
[04:50] <Zamber> ;)
[04:50] <Zamber> no xD
[04:50] <Zamber> no cathal
[04:51] <Zamber> pierreth
[04:51] <pierreth> Zamber: yes?
[04:51] <Zamber> paste your /var/log/xorg.0.log on phpfi.com
[04:52] <pierreth> Zamber: the /var/log of my hard drive?
[04:52] <Zamber> yep
[04:52] <pierreth> Zamber: OK I have to mount my disk
[04:52] <Zamber> of the drive where you have that not loading kde
[04:53] <rance> I seem to having trouble with the cd autoloader in kubuntu, mostly with audio cds but there are some strange things going on with data cds as well
[04:53] <rance> is there a troubleshooting page or something I missed when I googled for it
[04:55] <Zamber> rance chceck out this http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=101122002717168&w=2
[04:56] <Zamber> pierreth how it's going?
[04:56] <rance> thanks Zamber, will try it
[04:56] <pierreth> Zamber: i have just mounted my drive
[04:57] <gan|y|med> hello
[04:58] <gan|y|med> how can i revert that irrational behaviour of konqueror NOT to show ALL dirs in the dir tree?
[04:58] <abionnnn> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=26047 <--- what do these kernel messages mean? I'm trying to install a usb bluetooth dongle
[04:59] <Fragrag> Can someone help me play WMV files with VLC?
[05:00] <pierreth> Zamber: http://phpfi.com/183021
[05:00] <Zamber> abionnnn http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0404.0/1054.html
[05:00] <Fragrag> !wmv
[05:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:00] <pierreth> Zamber: sorry for the delay
[05:01] <Zamber> pierreth looking..
[05:02] <Zamber> pierreth looks like you've tryed to enable DRI in a rough way "(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable"
[05:03] <gan|y|med> can nobody tell me how to see ALL dirs in the dir tree again?
[05:03] <Zamber> show me your xorg.conf and say what graphic card you have ;)
[05:03] <pierreth> Zamber: i had a crash before
[05:03] <pierreth> Zamber: OK
[05:03] <Zamber> pierreth ypu managed to get DRI work?
[05:04] <pierreth> Zamber: Sorry I don t know what you are talking about :-)
[05:04] <Zamber> DRI = direct rendering infrastructure
[05:04] <Zamber> I gues you have a nvidia or ATI
[05:05] <Zamber> :P
[05:05] <mimmo> siete in tanti
[05:05] <pierreth> Zamber: http://phpfi.com/183022
[05:06] <pierreth> Zamber: I have old PIII from IBM
[05:08] <marcreichelt> hiho
[05:08] <Zamber> interesting
[05:08] <Zamber> could you give me the correct graph. card name?
[05:09] <marcreichelt> I installed the portscanner "knocker" to test my server for open ports
[05:09] <pierreth> Zamber: it an ibm 300PL
[05:09] <marcreichelt> but if I try to run the program an ugly error is returned
[05:09] <Alter-Ego> what is the finince app for kubuntu ?
[05:09] <pierreth> Zamber: i don t what graphic card it has
[05:10] <Zamber> Alter-Ego http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
[05:10] <Vladdy-> pierreth: use lspci to find out ;-)
[05:10] <pierreth> Vladdy-: OK
[05:11] <JoeJoe> hi
[05:11] <marcreichelt> see this shell output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36073/
[05:12] <JoeJoe> I have an idea for kununtu: why not add some more apps like the gimp, Koffice and some games?
[05:12] <pierreth> Zamber: http://phpfi.com/183025
[05:12] <HymnToLife> as if Kubuntu wasn't heavey enough aldready...
[05:12] <HymnToLife> heavy*
[05:12] <marcreichelt> the funny thing is: if I download the current version of knocker from the official homepage and compile and run that one, I get the same error
[05:13] <JoeJoe> what does that mean: heavy?
[05:13] <HymnToLife> means it install far too much stuff by default imho
[05:14] <JoeJoe> maybee add it on to the site, so it has  package part and make it easy for everyone?
[05:14] <pierreth> Zamber: does it help^
[05:15] <HymnToLife> packages fot GIMP and Koffice already exist
[05:15] <HymnToLife> and about 12,000 more
[05:15] <JoeJoe> i mean link them direct to the kubuntu site
[05:16] <HymnToLife> that's not the way things work here
[05:16] <HymnToLife> we use apt to install stuff
[05:16] <JoeJoe> oh right!
[05:17] <JoeJoe> bye
[05:17] <pierreth> Zamber: still here?
[05:17] <Zamber> eyp
[05:17] <Zamber> brb
[05:18] <pierreth> Zamber: so, do you have an idea?
[05:18] <marcreichelt> anyone that knows something about my problem with "knocker"?
[05:19] <Zamber> pierreth I'm looking for the driver that supports your card
[05:20] <pierreth> Zamber: yestherday everything was working on this computer
[05:20] <Zamber> what were you changing?
[05:20] <Zamber> hey!
[05:20] <Zamber> I have a idea ;)
[05:21] <Zamber> look into /etc/X11/ dir
[05:21] <Zamber> and look for files xorg.conf.SomeShitHere
[05:21] <Zamber> replace SomeShitHere with anything
[05:22] <Zamber> if you have more that one file like that
[05:22] <Zamber> take the one witch is the youngest
[05:22] <Zamber> and compare it with your xorg.conf
[05:23] <pierreth> Zamber: OK
[05:23] <silvia> ciao
[05:24] <silvia> entro qui per la prima volta
[05:24] <pierreth> Zamber: i have many of them
[05:24] <silvia> qualcuno pu aiutarmi
[05:24] <Zamber> pierreth that's normal
[05:24] <pierreth> Zamber: do you think i have a problem with this file or could it be somthing else^
[05:24] <Zamber> look on the latest one
[05:25] <Zamber> in 90% pf X errors it's a badly configured xorg
[05:25] <Zamber> pf -of
[05:26] <Zamber> I was installing my radeon 9200 for the lat week and had a couple of preakdowns like that ;)
[05:26] <Zamber> breakdowns*
[05:27] <pierreth> Zamber: what should i look in the file?
[05:27] <Zamber> any diffrences
[05:27] <Zamber> from the current one
[05:28] <weswh-> i installed azureus, and got the issue about the wrong version of java. so i installed the sun java 5, and set it in update-java-alternatives and in etc/jvm to the top. now when i start azureus, it loads, and i see the main window, and then it closes immediately. any ideas?
[05:28] <weswh-> !java
[05:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:29] <Zamber> !xorg
[05:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:29] <pierreth> Zamber: input device  stylus and cursor were removed
[05:29] <Zamber> ooh
[05:29] <Zamber> one sec
[05:30] <Zamber> got it ;)
[05:31] <weswh-> if i switch back to the gij for java, everything is fine (but the tracker gives an error about the wrong version of java..), when i switch to sun java, it just instantly crashes.
[05:31] <Zamber> ahh no
[05:31] <Zamber> were removed from witch one?
[05:32] <pierreth> Zamber: the actual xorg.conf has it, i have another file that does not
[05:32] <Zamber> post it on phpfi.com
[05:32] <hyper_ch> phpfi :)
[05:33] <Zamber> :)
[05:33] <cvasilak> hi, any tutorial on installing knetworkmanager? i have install it but how to configure it?
[05:33] <hyper_ch> it just lacks one thing: you can't alter stuff... however I like the search of it very much
[05:34] <pierreth> zamber: i will try the oldest one
[05:34] <Zamber> ok ;)
[05:34] <pierreth> Zamber: thank you
[05:34] <Zamber> no problerm :)
[05:34] <Zamber> xD
[05:34] <Zamber> typ0
[05:35] <cgetkey> good morning folks
[05:35] <bomber> how do i create a boot disk in kubuntu?
[05:36] <bomber> i need to reinstall grub after i reinstall windoze xp
[05:36] <Jucato> !grub | bomber
[05:36] <ubotu> bomber: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:36] <bomber> ty
[05:36] <vado> Salut
[05:37] <gan|y|med> i wanna install opera 8.54 which worked on dapper. however, dpkg does not install the opera binary. instead it puts a symlink to /bin/opera in /usb/bin, but, of course, there is no such file in /bin. any ideas?
[05:37] <weswh-> anyone have Azureus running with 6.1?
[05:38] <zorglu_> !opera
[05:38] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:43] <gan|y|med> ok, the server is down. and i do not want to install opera 9. it has to be 8.5x. it used to work, but it just doesn't install this damn binary...
[05:44] <gan|y|med> how do i access the files in a deb archive directly?
[05:44] <ubuntu_> !fr
[05:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:45] <zorglu_> !deb
[05:45] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[05:45] <zorglu_> hmm not a good one
[05:45] <gan|y|med> that is m$ style
[05:45] <cgetkey> anybody have any luck getting a dxg video camara to work
[05:46] <gan|y|med> what about kpackage? might this work?
[05:46] <Vladdy-> gan|y|med: just look there, it's html style ;-)
[05:46] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: it is unlikely you want to do that because of the high risk you to make something wrong. if you are sure you want to do it, man dpkg explain it all
[05:46] <gan|y|med> it is very likely i want to do this
[05:46] <Vladdy-> for example, http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[05:46] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: what about following the tutorial ? :)
[05:46] <Vladdy-> just go there :O
[05:46] <Vladdy-> ubuntu, pool
[05:46] <Vladdy-> and then your flavor
[05:46] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: cool, then 'man dpkg' will provide you the info you need
[05:47] <gan|y|med> at what stage of the install process do you think i am if i ask sth. like accessing a deb archive directly
[05:47] <weswh-> i seem to have some strange permission requirements even in my home dir. yesterday i was getting permission denied in firefox trying to save a file to a folder i created in my home dir (but i could save it to my desktop). now ktorrent is telling me "cannot open /home/wes/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/cache/01 Get Innocuous.mp3: Permission denied"
[05:47] <gan|y|med> look at my initial post
[05:47] <gan|y|med> i wanna install opera 8.54 which worked on dapper. however, dpkg does not install the opera binary. instead it puts a symlink to /bin/opera in /usb/bin, but, of course, there is no such file in /bin. any ideas?
[05:47] <weswh-> i mean, i assume ktorrent knows what it is doing - not sure why it needs that tmp folder but whatever - how can i give my apps outright access to my home dir?
[05:47] <weswh-> hidden or otherwise
[05:48] <gan|y|med> and is there any known issue with the security server?
[05:48] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: yep, i have one :) except if you know what you are doing, you should not messed up with raw stuff like dpkg internal :)
[05:48] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: but if you know what you are doing, you can mess with dpkg internal, people are doing it everyday
[05:49] <user_> hello everybody
[05:49] <user_> i am here...
[05:49] <Aravind> asddda
[05:49] <Aravind> ha ha ha
[05:49] <gan|y|med> so how do i "look" into a deb file. i just wanna extract the opera binary as it is not done be dpkg anymore
[05:49] <pierreth> Zamber: ?
[05:49] <zorglu_> weswh-: they have it by default
[05:50] <gan|y|med> would anybordy minde sending me a file?
[05:50] <Zamber> pierreth ?
[05:50] <ubuntu_> HI NOOBS
[05:50] <zorglu_> gan|y|med: told you already :) this is all in the "man dpkg" <- copy that in a terminal and read. you have a long ride to mke :)
[05:50] <pierreth> Zamber: it does not work :-)
[05:50] <Zamber> gan|y|med just unzip it xD
[05:50] <pierreth> Zamber: I think the problem is with KDE
[05:50] <weswh-> zorglu - what would you make of that error? (and the fact that in firefox i couldn't save to one of my dirs there, permission denied as well)
[05:50] <gan|y|med> libpng12-dev_1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[05:50] <gan|y|med> thx
[05:50] <gan|y|med> i'll try it
[05:51] <pierreth> Zamber: do you think I should try a reintall of kde?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> SO?
[05:51] <Zamber> pierreth did you try thelatest backup or the oldest?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> So?
[05:51] <ubuntu_> :)
[05:51] <pierreth> Zamber: The oldest
[05:51] <Zamber> reinstalling is not the point :P
[05:51] <zorglu_> weswh-: 1. describe what you do and 2. the error you see in clear details
[05:51] <ubuntu_> pierreth Loser :D
[05:51] <ubuntu_> pierreth Loser :D
[05:52] <cgetkey> has anyone have any luck getting a DXG movie camara to work?
[05:52] <ubuntu_> i have
[05:52] <ubuntu_> sO?
[05:52] <Zamber> pierreth use the youngest backup
[05:52] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: please behave
[05:52] <pierreth> Zamber: why the youngest?
[05:52] <ubuntu_> :D
[05:52] <weswh-> i seem to have some strange permission requirements even in my home dir. yesterday i was getting permission denied in firefox trying to save a file to a folder i created in my home dir (but i could save it to my desktop). now ktorrent is telling me "cannot open /home/wes/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/cache/01 Get Innocuous.mp3: Permission denied" when trying to seed a torrent
[05:52] <Zamber> coz it's the one that should work
[05:53] <Zamber> :P
[05:53] <aleksanteri> :D
[05:53] <zorglu_> weedar: ok do "ls -ld ~" in a terminal and give me the result
[05:53] <Zamber> btw say if something changes it's behavior
[05:53] <weswh-> i have examined the folder in question (.kde/share etc) and it seems that my user has permission. group or other permissions are forbidden. but i am the owner.
[05:53] <pierreth> Zamber: nothing has changed
[05:54] <weswh-> is it possible that ktorrent is running as something other than my user? (it was installed with the system)
[05:54] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok do "ls -ld ~" in a terminal and give me the result
[05:54] <zorglu_> weswh-: no ktorrent run as your normal users
[05:55] <weswh-> drwxr-xr-x 17 wes wes 4096 2006-12-09 11:24 /home/wes
[05:56] <pierreth> Zamber: i think i have a lock
[05:56] <Zamber> pierreth I have a idea ;)
[05:56] <Zamber> wait a sec
[05:56] <voicu> is there any other dc++ client beside valknut?
[05:56] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok this is the normal result. now do "touch /home/wes/blabla"
[05:56] <zorglu_> weswh-: and then "ls -l /hom/wes/blabla"
[05:56] <Vladdy-> abKdefKhijKlmnopqrstuvwKsyz :O
[05:56] <Zamber> run:
[05:57] <voicu> !dc++
[05:57] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[05:57] <zorglu_> voicu: not what you were looking for :)
[05:57] <Zamber> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
[05:57] <weswh-> -rw-r--r-- 1 wes wes 0 2006-12-09 11:56 /home/wes/blabla
[05:57] <Zamber> than
[05:57] <Zamber> in xorg.conf
[05:57] <zorglu_> voicu: i believe i saw a #linuxdc++
[05:57] <voicu> ok
[05:57] <voicu> i'll try to fin it
[05:57] <voicu> *find
[05:57] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok so you can create a file in you home dir
[05:58] <weswh-> right (i have done so)...let me see if i can recreate the problem in firefox. it was strange
[05:58] <zorglu_> weswh-: can you reproduce this 'touch/ls' in the directory up to the ktorrent one ?
[05:58] <weswh-> should i put it all the way in the final dir, or stop at .kde, /share?
[05:59] <zorglu_> weswh-: the point is to find the dir which cause the trouble
[05:59] <pierreth> Zamber: I think i have a lock
[05:59] <zorglu_> weswh-: it is somewhere between /home/wes and the .mp3
[05:59] <weswh-> right
[05:59] <Zamber> pierreth look on piv msg
[05:59] <weswh-> do you think the fact that .kde is hidden makes a difference or that should be cool?
[05:59] <pierreth> Zamber: i did
[06:00] <zorglu_> weswh-: no difference at all, the 'hidden' stuff is only for the user seeing it or not. not difference for the computer
[06:00] <pierreth> zamber: when i try to start kde, it says I has an error KUnique register or something like that
[06:00] <cgetkey> My daughter got on for Christmas and I'm trying to get it to work on linux
[06:00] <cgetkey> a DXG movie camara
[06:01] <abionnnn> Zamber: do you happen to know which ubuntu package has bluezfw?
[06:01] <pierreth> Zamber: do you think this could the problem^
[06:01] <Zamber> abionnnn nope
[06:01] <Zamber> google for it
[06:01] <Zamber> pierreth checking..
[06:01] <abionnnn> did, nothing. :p
[06:01] <abionnnn> apt-cache doesn't help either heh
[06:01] <Zamber> lol xD
[06:02] <zorglu_> cgetkey: you would have more chance on more specialized channel. google for 'linux studio'
[06:02] <abionnnn> perhaps its depreciated
[06:03] <cgetkey> it has software only for mac or microsoft but I run linux
[06:03] <cgetkey> but I'll try  an search for linux studio thx
[06:03] <aleksanteri> use wine then
[06:04] <cgetkey> Ahhhhh thx I'll try that
[06:04] <aleksanteri> sudo aptitude update
[06:04] <aleksanteri> sudo aptitude install wine
[06:04] <aleksanteri> put those in one at a time
[06:04] <cgetkey> forgot about wine
[06:04] <weswh-> zorglu - i found the problem. and...not so sure it's going to be easy to fix unfortunately.
[06:05] <zorglu_> weswh-: what is it
[06:05] <aleksanteri> cgetkey: ;)
[06:05] <zorglu_> !tab | weswh-
[06:05] <ubotu> weswh-: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:05] <weswh-> zorglu_: i was able to touch/ls all the way to the final directory...and all of the directories are owned by me etc.
[06:05] <aleksanteri> ubotu: :O
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about O - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <aleksanteri> :P
[06:05] <aleksanteri> lol
[06:05] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok
[06:05] <weswh-> zorglu_: in the final 'cache' dir, ktorrent puts links to the actual files on the filesystem - those links are root :(
[06:06] <cgetkey> gotta go thx for any and all help guys and gals
[06:06] <cgetkey> much appreciated
[06:06] <weswh-> zorglu_: not sure why ktorrent would do it that way, surely it's a problem for most users
[06:06] <zorglu_> weswh-: you can change the owner of a file by "chown wes.wes yourfilenamegoeshere"
[06:07] <weswh-> right, but that's not really a solution in the long run. if i have to manually change file permissions for whatever ktorrent is doing in the background.
[06:08] <weswh-> zorglu_: it gives me an option of where to store temportary files, but doesn't seem to have an option for "don't create any new files, just use what is on the fs"
[06:08] <ibert> hi! I had to change a NIC on a machine, and now eth0 isn't there anymore. With which dpkg-reconfigure can I set up the network again?
[06:08] <zorglu_> weswh-: it is not ktorrent or firefox changing the owner, it is somewhere in your local dont
[06:09] <zorglu_> weswh-: let me guess this fs is a window one ?
[06:09] <zorglu_> in your local dont=in your local conf
[06:09] <pierreth> Zamber: I will try what you said
[06:09] <weswh-> no, ext3. it's on the same drive as my system
[06:09] <Zamber> k ;)
[06:09] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok why is it owned by root ?
[06:10] <pierreth> Zamber: i hope it will work :-)
[06:10] <prophitinc> oi how do i install a tar.gz file?
[06:10] <weswh-> oh -  see what you mean. the link file will mirror the permissions of the file on the fs
[06:10] <Zamber> prophitinc what distro do you use?
[06:10] <prophitinc> kubuntu
[06:10] <weswh-> zorglu_: ok, let me see. because they were copied from another drive (also ext3) that i mounted
[06:11] <Zamber> so you can install things only with a .deb ext
[06:11] <Zamber> or manually install a C compiler
[06:11] <prophitinc> well the linux version of shock flash thingy
[06:11] <prophitinc> is in tar.gz
[06:11] <prophitinc> need it to play online rpg for the kids
[06:12] <Zamber> !compile
[06:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:12] <prophitinc> how do i do that?
[06:12] <Zamber> read the tips
[06:12] <weswh-> zorglu_: right you are, all of those files are owned by root. that explains a lot. the directorys i created while i was in kdesu konqueror, are owned by root. so are all of the files i copied over during that time. doh!
[06:12] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok :)
[06:13] <weswh-> zorglu_: i am pretty weak with cli at the moment, is there a quick command that will recursively set all of the permissions for every file in my home dir to my user?
[06:13] <weswh-> otherwise i have a lot of right clicking to do. heh
[06:13] <zorglu_> weswh-: chown -R wes.wes youbasedir
[06:13] <zorglu_> !right
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about right - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <zorglu_> !file
[06:13] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:14] <zorglu_> weswh-: the second link
[06:14] <weswh-> thanks!
[06:14] <Zamber> !kickerpager
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kickerpager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <Zamber> !kicker
[06:14] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[06:16] <weswh-> zorglu_: so i did, "sudo chown -R wes.wes /home/wes", it took the command, but doesn't seemed to have changed any permissions?
[06:16] <HymnToLife> weswh-, you should have done "wes:wes"
[06:17] <zorglu_> as HymnToLife said :)
[06:17] <zorglu_> well understandably i told you . twice :))))))))))
[06:18] <weswh-> zorglu_: ok, did that wes.wes thing mess anything up? :)
[06:18] <zorglu_> nope
[06:19] <HymnToLife> and even if it had, wes:wes would have sorted it
[06:20] <weswh-> hmm, i don't get it. it's not changing things. "sudo chown -R wes:wes /home/wes"
[06:20] <weswh-> all of the dirs and files that were root before, are still root
[06:24] <nagyv> is there any dcop call to ban/love/skip a track in amarok's last.fm player?
[06:28] <angasule> I can't add the RSS from english.aljazeera.net (it's on the left side), I don't know anything about RSS to tell if it's an akregator bug or the problem is in aljazeera's side, anyone that knows? :? it's a pain to check manually, like it's the 90's or something
[06:29] <weswh-> maybe sudo isn't powerful enough to change the permissions of the files that were made while using kdesu?
[06:30] <verzonnen> angasule: what is the url?
[06:30] <weswh-> when i try to do su - in console, it says authentication failure
[06:30] <verzonnen> weswh-: try sudo su -
[06:31] <angasule> verzonnen: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4D6139CD-6BB5-438A-8F33-96A7F25F40AF.htm?ArticleGuid=55ABE840-AC30-41D2-BDC9-06BBE2A36665
[06:31] <angasule> verzonnen: if you got to http://english.aljazeera.net the link is on the left in large, friendly letters
[06:32] <edulix> hi
[06:32] <verzonnen> angasule: that is not a valid rss link
[06:32] <edulix> I'm not seeing gtk apps with antialiased fonts
[06:32] <angasule> verzonnen: oh, ok :(
[06:32] <edulix> even though I have configured kcontrol to set it to Bitstream, or Sans Serif, or..
[06:32] <edulix> (i've tried many9
[06:33] <weswh-> verzonnen: that did appear to give me a clean root shell, thanks. but i still can't solve my problem. the other day i was messing around the kdesu konqueror, and ended up copying over all of the files from my old HD while in that mode. so they are all owned by root - and now won't play nice with my applications. all i am trying to do is change everything under /home/wes, (all folders and files) back to my user. with root access now in
[06:33] <weswh-> console, i did "chown -R wes:wes /home/wes", and it isn't changing the file permissions at all
[06:33] <verzonnen> angasule: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4D6139CD-6BB5-438A-8F33-96A7F25F40AF.htm?ArticleGuid=55ABE840-AC30-41D2-BDC9-06BBE2A36665
[06:34] <verzonnen> just add a new feed to akregator
[06:35] <verzonnen> weswh-: ok, try this "chown -R wes:wes /home/wes"
[06:35] <angasule> verzonnen: is that not the same link I mentioned?
[06:36] <verzonnen> angasule: yeah it is
[06:36] <verzonnen> angasule: my mistake
[06:36] <angasule> verzonnen: neat, it worked by manually adding it, what's the correct extension? .rss? then it'd work fine?
[06:37] <scode__> I'm a noob at linux. What's the command to move a file?
[06:37] <weedar> scode_: mv
[06:37] <scode__> thx
[06:39] <weswh-> verzonnen: that is what i did before. now this has gone from strange to scary. i opened up a kdesu konqueror session, and all of the sudden in that (as opposed to the regular konqueror) it is showing that the permissions have changed. so i go back to regular, and it's good now too. maybe it just took a while to update at the GUI level? but the one folder i was most concerned with in regular konqueror, is still showing owned by root. in
[06:39] <weswh-> kdesu, it is showing owned by wes
[06:39] <weswh-> is there a way i can examine the whole directory in konsole, and see anything that is not owned by wes?
[06:39] <weswh-> because i don't trust this GUI anymore :)
[06:40] <verzonnen> weswh-: try this as your regular user "id"
[06:42] <Vladdy-> !tv
[06:42] <Vladdy-> hmm
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <verzonnen> !AI
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Vladdy-> evil...
[06:45] <inetpro> !3G
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3G - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <verzonnen> sory hard to resist playing with bots.....
[06:52] <sredna> The videp players in kubuntu are fast becoming more and more broken
[06:52] <sredna> Now I can't view full screen video
[06:53] <sredna> Using libxine
[06:53] <sredna> Mplayer can, but does something really ugly
[06:53] <verzonnen> use mplayer
[06:53] <sredna> Mplayer fails loading a lot of the streams I want to open
[06:54] <sredna> It's ASF parser is broken
[06:54] <mc__> !keyboards
[06:54] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[06:54] <mc__> !multimedia_keyboards
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multimedia_keyboards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <sredna> Mplayer also appears to download at least the double amount of data compared to xine, with no difference in quality
[06:57] <aleksanteri> hey how to check if i am running a 64-bit version or not?
[06:59] <sredna> Hm, I found out something: If I have an other instance of kmplayer open with xine, it uses some different video driver, which does not permit full screen mode.
[07:00] <sredna> Even though that other player was stopped, and did play an audio stream.
[07:00] <sredna> There is yet some way for linux...
[07:04] <genjix2> well I have an oddity... installed default kubuntu and only mplayer works -> no kaffeine
[07:06] <genjix2> aha http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76111.html
[07:07] <Zappix> Hey, would Kubuntu run on a Pentium Tillamook /MMX (233Mhz)?
[07:07] <Zappix> Probably would being Gentoo can run on an i486 >>;
[07:08] <hyper_ch> Zappix: how much ram?
[07:08] <Skrot> KDE might be a little heavy for such a old computer :)
[07:09] <Zappix> 256MB
[07:09] <hyper_ch> Zappix: I'd rather try xubuntu instead of kubuntu
[07:09] <Zappix> Ah, okay. (Used to have an AMD thunderbird but my motherboard for it died)
[07:09] <hyper_ch> or install *buntu without any gui and get fluxbox or something like that
[07:09] <Zappix> Ah, okay, thanks.
[07:10] <hyper_ch> Zappix: well, there are a few lightweight desktops out there... you need just to test a bit :)
[07:10] <sumashod> hi
[07:10] <sumashod> :)
[07:10] <Zamber> xfce is nice
[07:11] <hyper_ch> I think on a pentium mmx 233 with 256 mb ram xfce shouldn't run to bad
[07:11] <hyper_ch> s/to /too
[07:11] <Zamber> fluxbox would run for sure
[07:11] <aleksanteri> anyone knows a fast way to get wine?
[07:12] <Zamber> go to a shop and say "wine please"
[07:12] <aleksanteri> ...
[07:12] <Zamber> ofc you have to be 18 :P
[07:12] <aleksanteri> i mean the program
[07:12] <Zamber> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:12] <aleksanteri> yeah
[07:12] <aleksanteri> but it doesn't install it
[07:12] <Zamber> so
[07:12] <Zamber> sudo apt-cache search wine
[07:13] <Zamber> and look wich one matches your criteria
[07:13] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: you're on edgy or dapper?
[07:13] <aleksanteri> dapper
[07:13] <aleksanteri> 6.06
[07:13] <Zamber> there's another way also
[07:13] <hyper_ch> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[07:13] <hyper_ch> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[07:13] <Zamber> google for automatix
[07:13] <hyper_ch> add that to your repos
[07:13] <LjL> !automatix
[07:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:13] <hyper_ch> and change "edgy" to "dapper"
[07:13] <Zappix> It'd be awesome if I could run a processor even though it was missing one of the pins.....
[07:14] <aleksanteri> lol
[07:14] <Zamber> xD
[07:14] <DennisTT> How can I find out what version of Kubuntu I'm using
[07:14] <Zamber> !WorksForMe
[07:14] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:14] <aleksanteri> "deb-src command not found" :|
[07:14] <Zappix> I have an AMD K6-II but one of the pins came off while I was trying to unbend one of them >.<;
[07:14] <Zamber> aleksanteri add it to ypu sources.list
[07:15] <Zamber> your
[07:15] <aleksanteri> how?
[07:15] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: open a terminal
[07:15] <aleksanteri> i have one open all the time :P
[07:15] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: enter there:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: copy there the two repos I posted above
[07:15] <Zamber> nano or kate
[07:15] <aleksanteri> ahh nano, :D
[07:15] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: replace edgy by dapper
[07:16] <aleksanteri> ok
[07:16] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: in nano --> press then ctrl-x (for exiting)... it will then ask you whether you want to save
[07:16] <aleksanteri> i have used nano before
[07:16] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: then enter in the terminal:   sudo apt-get update
[07:16] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: and finally:  sudo apt-get install wine
[07:17] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: then make some coffee and when you come back execute in the terminal:   winecfg
[07:17] <aleksanteri> :P
[07:17] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: the winecfg is necessary to create all that stuff like fake c_drive
[07:18] <aleksanteri> ok :P
[07:18] <aleksanteri> i have tried a wine program before
[07:18] <ubuntu_> plz why do i get "instalation crashed" after i want to install kubuntu 6.06.1 or 6.10?
[07:18] <aleksanteri> but it was a beta and didn't work :P
[07:18] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: not all programs work in wine
[07:18] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: winamp unfortunately works only half... :(
[07:18] <Zamber> aleksanteri for what do you need wine?
[07:18] <aleksanteri> well
[07:19] <Clone> plz someone help me
[07:19] <aleksanteri> i am a windows to linux switcher
[07:19] <hyper_ch> Clone: just ask...
[07:19] <aleksanteri> and want my windows apps :D
[07:19] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: I know how you feel :)
[07:19] <Zamber> aleksanteri me too
[07:19] <Clone> ok one sec i wil return
[07:19] <hyper_ch> aleksanteri: however I use vmware :)
[07:19] <Zamber> anyway look on synaptic packet manager
[07:20] <aleksanteri> ok
[07:20] <Zamber> and look for substitutes of your faivourite win apps
[07:20] <aleksanteri> well
[07:20] <aleksanteri> i am going to get the coffee now ;)
[07:20] <Zamber> synaptic or adept
[07:20] <Zamber> ;)
[07:21] <Zamber> VCL is better xD
[07:21] <Zamber> !xfce
[07:21] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:21] <billytwowilly> so if I get a "can't read superblock" error when I try to mount a windows share does that mean the hard drive is toast?
[07:21] <aleks|coffee> ;)
[07:21] <hyper_ch> Zamber: winamp has the media library with a few streams and one of those airs Star Gate season 9... :)
[07:21] <ironfroggy_LT> i have installed cupsys to a seperate box, but when i try to browse to (its ip):631, i get nothing. what reasons could there be?
[07:22] <Zamber> hyper_ch you can stream media through VCL also
[07:22] <Zamber> also form m3u
[07:22] <Clone> k so
[07:22] <Zamber> so there's no need to listhen that streams through winamp
[07:22] <Zamber> just get the stream addr
[07:23] <Clone> when i want to isntall kubuntu i choose everzthign needed but when it comes to create a partitions
[07:23] <ironfroggy_LT> any takers? i do, in fact, have access to the box in question.
[07:23] <Clone> it creates i press OK and then my monitor shut down and i ge no  signal message
[07:23] <Clone> then i turn it off and again on
[07:23] <Clone> and when i see desktop
[07:24] <Zamber> !gnome
[07:24] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:24] <Clone> it says formating drive E: to ext3
[07:24] <Clone> but nothing happens even after 5mins
[07:24] <Clone> so i pressed ESC and it said Installation crashed
[07:24] <Zamber> formatting takes some time in some cases
[07:24] <Clone> this happened to me with live cd of kubuntu 6.10
[07:24] <ubuntu_> !grub
[07:24] <Zamber> Clone run the liveCD
[07:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:24] <Clone> and live DVD of kubuntu 6.06.1
[07:25] <Clone> zamber i have livecd of 6.10
[07:25] <Zamber> run the GNOME partition manager
[07:25] <pierreth> Zamber: hello
[07:25] <Zamber> not the instal
[07:25] <Clone> and same thing happen
[07:25] <Zamber> hi pierreth
[07:25] <pierreth> Zamber: It seems that KDE was not installed
[07:25] <Zamber> :D
[07:25] <Zamber> don't say xD
[07:26] <Clone> so wat shoudl i do?
[07:26] <pierreth> Zamber: but it was installed yestherday
[07:26] <Zamber> run the livecd
[07:26] <Clone> i run kubuntu 6.10 live cd
[07:26] <Zamber> run the partition manager from it
[07:26] <Clone> and?
[07:26] <pierreth> Zamber: It was a problem since a reset
[07:26] <Zamber> manage to make a nice partition for ubuntu
[07:26] <hyper_ch> Zamber: well, I don't know the streaming urls :) that's the problem... and winamp lists them really nicely... lots of anime and some tv shows
[07:26] <Zamber> and make it
[07:26] <Zamber> not from the install
[07:26] <Clone> i dont want format disk i have pagefile from windows on it
[07:26] <Lam_> is there a terminal command i could use to flip the kde screensaver on and off?
[07:26] <Zamber> but from the partiton manager
[07:27] <Clone> i have 150 GB there
[07:27] <Clone> and want install it there :P
[07:27] <pierreth> Zamber: it was taking a very long to get out of the black screen
[07:27] <Clone> ya from partiotion manager
[07:27] <Clone> and then?
[07:27] <Zamber> Clone so make a partition
[07:27] <pierreth> Zamber: Normally, KDE is a lot faster
[07:27] <Clone> k so
[07:27] <Clone> i do partition
[07:27] <pierreth> Zamber: thank you
[07:27] <Clone> how much for swap
[07:28] <pierreth> Zamber: i will reboot again as a test
[07:28] <Zamber> k ;)
[07:28] <Clone> 150% of my RAM?
[07:28] <Zamber> Clone the swap should be about 3 times of your RAM
[07:28] <Clone> ok
[07:28] <Clone> so 3 GB
[07:28] <Zamber> 3 or 2
[07:28] <Clone> and /home part and /root part?
[07:29] <Zamber> I did evrything on a one partition
[07:29] <Zamber> not mentioning the swap
[07:29] <hyper_ch> clone: root part - depending on your overall diskspace - between 5-10gb...   /home --> the rest of your drive
[07:29] <Zamber> and it works fine ;P
[07:29] <Zamber> hyper_ch he wants to have his win stil lthere
[07:29] <Clone> zeah win there
[07:29] <Clone> yeah
[07:30] <hyper_ch> Zamber: you can do everything in one partition but it is recommended to create an own home partition :)
[07:30] <Clone> just want to install it correctly so i can use dual boot
[07:30] <Zamber> hyper_ch find the place where the playlists are kept and simply copy it somewhere
[07:31] <Clone> wait i reboot with livecd
[07:31] <Zamber> kk
[07:31] <ivoks> hi kubuntu users!
[07:31] <hyper_ch> Zamber: well that's one option but right now I run winamp in my vmware....
[07:32] <ivoks> help us create DVD for those who don't have internet access
[07:32] <ivoks> we need you to get packages list of most used packages
[07:32] <ivoks> if you are interested in helping your community, please visit http://www.ubuntu-hr.org/ningi/
[07:32] <ivoks> (no, this isn't spam :)
[07:33] <Zamber> ivoks if you don't have internet what's the point of running a internet based OS?
[07:33] <Zamber> yes it is xD
[07:33] <ivoks> Zamber: maybe you have, but no broadban
[07:33] <aleksanteri> back
[07:33] <ivoks> -d
[07:34] <weswh-> hmm, i installed the nvidia-glx driver...but didn't 'set it up' or anything. i noticed that amarok wasn't doing the cool 3d visualizations anymore, just the standard 2d ones. when i click through them i get a few blank screens
[07:34] <Zamber> ah, got it ;)
[07:34] <hyper_ch> Zamber: why do you say ubuntu is an internet based os?
[07:34] <claudio_> I need help please
[07:34] <aleksanteri> ok i c how wine works
[07:34] <weswh-> i went into system settings and told the graphics card to use "propiretary" drivers, it says it is now using 'nvidia' (before it was using 'nv') - how can i tell? just want to make sure it's doing everything it can
[07:34] <Zamber> coz evry linux system has it's power in the internet
[07:35] <Zamber> updates, new packages
[07:35] <Zamber> community
[07:35] <claudio_>  i'm new to linux and i want to install gcc?
[07:35] <claudio_> somebody can help me please?
[07:36] <Zappix> Anyone here know if a processor would work if one pin is missing? :P
[07:36] <Zamber> claudio witch version?
[07:36] <Zamber> 4.1 ?
[07:36] <claudio_> it doesnt mathers
[07:36] <Zamber> sudo apt-get install gcc-4.1
[07:36] <campbch> Zappix - try it, let us know :D
[07:36] <Zamber> from the terminal
[07:36] <Lehmytest> Zappix: a p4 did work with one pin less
[07:37] <ivoks> claudio_: apt-get install build-essential :)
[07:37] <campbch> depends which pin?
[07:37] <ivoks> claudio_: withouth ':)' part
[07:37] <Zappix> Lehmytest: seriously? >>
[07:37] <Zamber> xD
[07:37] <Hossie> yes the p4 of my friend did still work
[07:37] <Hossie> and still does
[07:37] <campbch> anyways, if i ususally  use wireless, and i want to use an ethernet connection, how do i tell it to do so?
[07:37] <claudio_> inpossible to find package
[07:37] <campbch> it detects it, has an internal ip and everything
[07:38] <campbch> but i cant connect if i disable wireless?
[07:38] <Zappix> ah..hmm...
[07:38] <Zappix> I have no idea if I want to risk trying though >>;
[07:38] <Zappix> if something goes wrong I'm screwed :D
[07:38] <campbch> it shouldnt break anything, its not like trying to jam something in where it doesnt go
[07:39] <Zamber> claudio_ for witch one?
[07:39] <Zappix> Heh I know someone who did that
[07:39] <campbch> its like not jamming something in where it's meant to go
[07:39] <Zappix> and in return killed his laptop XD
[07:39] <campbch> poor laptop
[07:39] <campbch> :\
[07:39] <Zamber> yeah
[07:39] <Zamber> RIP for him
[07:39] <campbch> ok, if i disable my wireless, how do i connect via ethernet?
[07:39] <campbch> !ethernet
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <campbch> !internet
[07:39] <Zamber> !internet
[07:39] <Zappix> !internet
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <Zamber> :D
[07:39] <Zappix> D:
[07:39] <notech> configure the wired interface
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <campbch> D:
[07:40] <Zappix> !YourMom
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about YourMom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <Vladdy-> !botabuse
[07:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[07:40] <campbch> !botsmack
[07:40] <Zappix> XD
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <Zamber> !Bot
[07:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:40] <Vladdy-> consider yourself warned..
[07:40] <LjL> stop please
[07:40] <ironfroggy_LT> anyone know what i need to do in order to get cups allow connections outside of localhost?
[07:41] <Zappix> I don't think this board has ports for fans though.....I have one you connect to ze cables of the power supply, but that's designed for 200Mhz, don't know if I should try it with 450
[07:41] <aleksanteri> btw has anyone got the code to install opengl? :D
[07:41] <Zappix> Aleksanteri: 42
[07:41] <claudio_> ivoks: whem i execute that yt asks me are you root and them return to the comand line
[07:41] <Zamber> aleksanteri google? :P
[07:42] <ivoks> claudio_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:42] <Zamber> opengl is a rough thing to configure xD
[07:43] <claudio_> ivoks:impossible to find build-essential packadge
[07:43] <Zappix> oh by the way: want to see the computer I'm using?
[07:43] <Zappix> http://dzone.d-padnetwork.com/site/files/Timalook_computer.jpg <-- XP
[07:43] <aleksanteri> wth is that?
[07:43] <ivoks> claudio_: that's k|edu|ubuntu, right?
[07:44] <claudio_> Kubuntu
[07:44] <Zappix> aleksanteri: My computer? :P
[07:44] <aleksanteri> lol
[07:44] <Zappix> It's genius
[07:44] <Zappix> Never felt like putting the motherboard and everything in my case
[07:44] <ivoks> claudio_: did you do sudo apt-get update?
[07:45] <claudio_> yup
[07:46] <inetpro> claudio_: did you update /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <claudio_> ivoks:no
[07:47] <ivoks> run it
[07:47] <Zamber> yeah ;]
[07:47] <Zamber> xgl/beryl works fine for me ;D
[07:47] <Zappix> uhh
[07:47] <Zappix> Might I have to tinker with my BIOS to get a fan working? >>;
[07:47] <Zappix> I have a port for a fan, but when I plug it in, it doesn't automatically turn on
[07:47] <pierreth> how do you change Konqueror so I need to double click to open a file?
[07:48] <aleksanteri> pierreth: i did it once...
[07:48] <aleksanteri> wait a sec
[07:48] <pierreth> aleksanteri: OK
[07:48] <max_> does anyone dual boot linux and win98?
[07:48] <BluesKaj> I did at one time
[07:48] <max_> where did you get win98 drivers? i cant find any
[07:48] <max_> only XP stuff
[07:49] <aleksanteri> pierreth: found it
[07:49] <BluesKaj> been a while
[07:49] <ironfroggy_LT> are there any scripts i can install to more easily configure cups to be used by my local network?
[07:49] <swami> anyone tryed the 2.6.19 kenel?
[07:49] <Zappix> Might I have to tinker with my BIOS to get a fan working? >>;
[07:49] <Zappix> I have a port for a fan, but when I plug it in, it doesn't automatically turn on
[07:49] <Zappix> =/
[07:49] <max_> BluesKaj: oh, ok
[07:49] <aleksanteri> pierreth: System settings -> mouse
[07:49] <swami> anyonre tryed the new 2.6.19 kenel?
[07:49] <ironfroggy_LT> i am trying to grok exactly what configuration i need to change how, but it seems a common thing to do, i thought there has to be something easier.
[07:49] <aleksanteri> and it's there
[07:50] <pierreth> aleksanteri: thank you
[07:50] <claudio_> ivoks: sorry my lack of knoledge but it is sudo apt-get update /etc/apt/sources.list or only update /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:50] <aleksanteri> np
[07:50] <ivoks> sudo apt-get update
[07:50] <swami>  anyone tryed the 2.6.19 kenel?
[07:51] <pierreth> aleksanteri: i have no mouse in system settings
[07:51] <BluesKaj> ! Feisty Herd
[07:51] <claudio_> ivoks:yes and next(sorry newbie)
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Feisty Herd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <ivoks> claudio_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:51] <BluesKaj> ! Feisty Herd 1
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Feisty Herd 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <Zamber> !eyecandy
[07:52] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:52] <aleksanteri> pierreth: oh
[07:52] <pierreth> aleksanteri: OK, I have it in kcontrol only
[07:52] <claudio_> ivoks:impossible to find build-essential packadge
[07:52] <ivoks> claudio_: why do you need gcc?
[07:52] <pierreth> aleksanteri: It is not my system settings
[07:53] <aleksanteri> w/e
[07:53] <claudio_> for programing
[07:53] <ivoks> claudio_: did you enable internet repositorys?
[07:53] <aleksanteri> i am running a finnish version and the translations aren't accurate sometimes :|
[07:53] <claudio_> whf is that
[07:53] <claudio_> i dont know
[07:53] <pierreth> i have a broken translation of kde, how can i fix?
[07:53] <aleksanteri> !changethemes
[07:53] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[07:54] <ivoks> ok... i don't use KDE
[07:54] <ivoks> could someome explain claudio_ how to enable internet repositories?
[07:54] <claudio_> lol
[07:54] <ivoks> no?
[07:54] <claudio_> thank you for your time :)
[07:55] <ivoks> claudio_: you need to enable ubuntu repositories
[07:55] <ivoks> claudio_: thousands of programs are there
[07:55] <ivoks> come on kubuntu community :)
[07:56] <inetpro> claudio_: You have Adept?
[07:56] <claudio_> ivoks: im ready to quit Kubuntu whitch other distribuition would you will be good for my
[07:56] <claudio_> yes
[07:56] <inetpro> K Menu->System->Adept (Package Manager)
[07:56] <ivoks> kubuntu is ok
[07:57] <claudio_> inetpor: and anext
[07:57] <inetpro> Select View->Manage Repositories  in the Adept package manager window
[07:58] <inetpro> To enable the Universe repository, find the repository line with the Universe Component, and right click the line and select Enable.
[07:58] <ivoks> inetpro: he needs main too :)
[07:58] <swami> nolimitsoya .....do u have sata hdd?
[07:58] <inetpro> Oops.. right
[07:59] <BluesKaj> those repos should be enabled by default
[07:59] <swami> nolimitsoya .....do u have sata hdd?
[08:01] <ivoks> BluesKaj: i'm not sure; if you install it offline
[08:02] <weswh-> ok, so i am really getting myself into trouble here. i am trying to get my system to work with the official nvida driver. i found a tutorial online and ran "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable", and got a warning about Xorg and MD5 and not being able to do it, or something
[08:02] <ironfroggy_LT> someone here has to have configured CUPS before, right?
[08:02] <ivoks> right
[08:03] <Clone> can someone tell me how can i install kubuntu on my HD so i can use it in dualboot win winxp?
[08:03] <claudio_> i dont know if my prob is that im runnig it on a virtual machine?!?!?!
[08:03] <weswh-> so i went into my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and looked to see if the driver was marked nv, or nvidia - it was marked nvidia. (i had already changed that in System Settings). anyways, i also noticed some stuff in there about 640x480 - which is the resolultion i am stuck in now after a reboot
[08:03] <weswh-> is there a way I can make the system regenerate a new optimal xorg config or something?
[08:03] <ivoks> claudio_: just install it :)
[08:03] <max_> Clone: partition off some space for Linux...install windows first, the install linux the the other partition
[08:04] <ivoks> claudio_: does your virtual machine has access to internet?
[08:04] <claudio_> yes im talking by it
[08:04] <weswh-> in System Settings now, it won't even let me drag the resolution up, in admin mode. it does see the correct hardware still though
[08:04] <claudio_> its vmware player
[08:04] <weswh-> is there an xorg configuration tool?
[08:05] <inetpro> claudio_: it shouldn't make a diff
[08:05] <claudio_> my native system is windows and them im running  Kubuntu on vmware player
[08:05] <Xenol> za,ber
[08:05] <Xenol> zamber
[08:05] <inetpro> claudio_: can you choose something else to install?
[08:05] <Xenol> i am on livecd
[08:06] <claudio_> something else?!??!like what
[08:07] <Dr_willis> Moo!?!?!?
[08:07] <inetpro> claudio_: what you get when you do sudo apt-get update
[08:07] <weswh-> what can i do to get back to 1280x1024, at least?
[08:07] <Moo> Dr_willis!
[08:07] <Dr_willis> cowsay | figlet
[08:07] <Xenol> plz someone
[08:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:07] <weswh-> do i need to manually edit the resolution references in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:07] <Xenol> i create partitions
[08:07] <claudio_> reading list of packadges...ready
[08:07] <Xenol> and then press isntall
[08:07] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  thats always an option.
[08:08] <Xenol> for root which is bets filesystem?
[08:08] <inetpro> claudio_: that all?
[08:08] <Xenol> REISERFS or ext?
[08:08] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  when in doubt - use ext3
[08:08] <claudio_> yes it all
[08:08] <Zamber> re
[08:08] <Zamber> had some problems with beryl :P
[08:08] <Xenol> Dr_willis how much for wat swap 3 GB root 20 GB and rest for home?
[08:09] <Dr_willis> 3gb of swap is a big huge. :)
[08:09] <Zamber> he has 1gb ram
[08:09] <weswh-> Dr_willis: what are the others? i am sure that my graphics card isn't working properly even though it says it is using the nvida driver and nvidia-glx is installed. like when i hit "logout", it takes it a few seconds to 'redraw' the screen with the gray color.
[08:09] <Xenol> so how much
[08:09] <Dr_willis> but it also depends on your actual ram.
[08:09] <Xenol> 1GB
[08:09] <ironfroggy_LT> so if people have obviously configured CUPS before, one might be right to assume they have an idea where docs can be found on opening CUPS up to a local network, right?
[08:09] <Skrot> 1-2gb swap is enough then
[08:09] <Dr_willis> i always put at least 512mb.. 2gb is proberly plenty.
[08:09] <Skrot> 3 is too much
[08:09] <Xenol> so 2GB
[08:09] <Xenol> ?
[08:09] <Skrot> yeah
[08:10] <Skrot> I've got 2GB ram and 4GB swap, never use more than 100MB of that swap :p
[08:10] <Skrot> wasted space :(
[08:10] <inetpro> claudio_: when you do 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' paste for us the lines that don't start with a hash (#)
[08:10] <Xenol> k got swap how much for root ? ;P
[08:10] <BluesKaj> Skrot, why so large swap
[08:10] <Dr_willis> right now i am using 128 out of 1.5 gb of ram.. no swap used at all
[08:10] <Skrot> Xenol: You usually just need a / and a swap. Set swap to 2*ram and / to rest
[08:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[08:11] <claudio_> wait i thing i get it
[08:11] <Skrot> BluesKaj: Think kubuntu install CD follows the old 2*ram=swap.
[08:11] <Xenol> Dr_willis for root 20 GB is enough?
[08:11] <Skrot> 20GB is more than enough for the system
[08:11] <BluesKaj> 1g should be plenty of swap ... thay old rule goes for smaller memory
[08:11] <Xenol> ok
[08:11] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  should be.. it have 1.75TB of drive space... so i dont worry about sizes much. :P
[08:12] <weswh-> Dr_willis: ok, i am really screwing myself now. I just ran 'sudo dexconf', and ended up with an xorg.conf file that is much smaller, and makes no mention of my specific graphics hardware etc.
[08:12] <Xenol> and wat is / partiotion? smth like /home?
[08:12] <Xenol> Dr_willis lol
[08:12] <alelurmopu> hi all
[08:12] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  dexconf? never heard of that one.
[08:12] <weswh-> surely there is a way to get it to reevaluate my system, like it did at install, and come up with an appropriate file?
[08:12] <claudio_> i forgot to do apply on adept(loll)
[08:12] <ivoks> :)
[08:12] <Bent> regarding cups: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631
[08:12] <Skrot> Xenol: / is the root. All the subfolders are on the same partition unless you create specific partitions for it (such as /home)
[08:12] <Dr_willis> dpkg-reconfigure xorg (or somthing like that)
[08:12] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[08:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:12] <weswh-> Dr_willis: it was mentioned in the xorg.conf file - said it was generated by dexconf, the Debian Xorg Configuration Tool
[08:12] <inetpro> you welcome
[08:13] <Skrot> Xenol: On desktop computers you seldom need to create more than just the root
[08:13] <inetpro> we all been there
[08:13] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  you got a nvidia or ati card?
[08:13] <alelurmopu> when I try to configure my key map in kcontrol i find that there aren't any Available Layouts
[08:13] <alelurmopu> How can I add them ?!
[08:13] <Xenol> skrot, so u suggest that i create / and home?
[08:13] <claudio_> Thank you all for the help!!!!!!!!:)
[08:13] <weswh-> Dr_willis: nvidia.
[08:13] <Skrot> Xenol: I'd just create /
[08:13] <ivoks> np
[08:13] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  nvidia has its own x config generation program as well.
[08:13] <weswh-> the whole reason i was messing with this was trying to use the nvidia driver.
[08:13] <weswh-> really?
[08:13] <Dr_willis> yes. :P
[08:13] <raphink> I suggest creating / and /home
[08:13] <Xenol> skrot, then i got 100+ GB free :/
[08:13] <Dr_willis> cofiguration of X is avery very.... interesting topic. :)
[08:14] <weswh-> Dr_willis: would that be avail to me if i installed nvidia-glx?
[08:14] <raphink> at least because it allows to reinstall without losing the docs
[08:14] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  the default xorg.conf the system made 'may' be backed up.. look in /etc/X11/
[08:14] <Zamber> how to disable gamma in the kde menu?
[08:14] <raphink> Xenol:
[08:14] <ivoks> raphink: hi!
[08:14] <Xenol> skot, is there any way to install GRUB somewhere else then to win disk MBR?
[08:14] <raphink> hi ivoks :)
[08:14] <raphink> how are you man?
[08:14] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  its rather simple to get the nvidia drivers installed these days.. about 4 lines on the shell. :)
[08:14] <Xenol> raphin , ya?
[08:14] <ivoks> great, you?
[08:15] <raphink> ivoks: I'm great :)
[08:15] <raphink> Xenol: I suggest you use / and /home
[08:15] <Xenol> i do it
[08:15] <weswh-> Dr_willis: well, the "sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable" command is what started my troubles, it seems
[08:15] <raphink> Xenol: so you can safely reinstall if you need, without touching your documents
[08:15] <Xenol> but i want to install GRUB somewhere else than to windows MBR
[08:15] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  and what 'troubles' are those...
[08:15] <raphink> Xenol: e.g. if you want ot install a clean feasty in a few months instead of dist-upgrading
[08:15] <weswh-> not sure if that is right or not, just something i found online
[08:15] <weswh-> Dr_willis: well, booting into 640x480 mainly :P
[08:16] <Xenol> possible to install it to lin disk?
[08:16] <claudio_> Gcc is runnig..... Cool ty again
[08:16] <weswh-> do you know of any good guides online dealing with the nvidia drivers and x configuration?
[08:16] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you can install grub most anywhere.. getting it to boot - is the harder part.
[08:16] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[08:16] <weswh-> i've been getting a lot of conflicting info on google
[08:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:16] <Skrot> Xenol: 100+GB free? Thought you said you only had 20?
[08:16] <Xenol> skrot, i will describe
[08:16] <Skrot> Xenol: If you've got 120-ish, just make everything /
[08:16] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  the official nvidia docs on their driver is well worth reading/printing out.
[08:17] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  the ubuntu wiki page on how to install them - needs reworked.
[08:17] <Skrot> Xenol: except the 2GB you make swap
[08:17] <Xenol> skrot, i have 135 GB free i want it like this 20 GB root 2 GB swap and home rest
[08:17] <Skrot> Xenol: okay, then you make 20GB /, 2GB swap and 113GB /home
[08:17] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  you may just need to run the KDE screen res configuration tool and slider the slider to the hither res. or it could be your system thinks your monitor cant do any higher
[08:17] <Xenol> skrot, and i am interested if it is possible somehow easily install GRUB somewhere else than MBR of win
[08:18] <BluesKaj> weswh-, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:18] <Dr_willis> Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device
[08:18] <inetpro> Xenol: I always make a spare partition to allow for installing a new version at a later stage
[08:19] <Xenol> skrot, and BTW root need to be primary but home need to be priamary?
[08:19] <Skrot> No idea about primary :)
[08:19] <Dr_willis> I always make all my partitions 'primary'
[08:19] <inetpro> then you can decide to work with the new or if you have trouble go back to old
[08:19] <Dr_willis> just easier to do it that way
[08:19] <weswh-> Dr_willis: at the present time, i can't raise the slider any higher
[08:19] <Xenol> intepro k i will leave 15 GB free
[08:20] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, he needs to be in admin mode
[08:20] <Xenol> skrot, so i make partitions and wat now
[08:20] <weswh-> Dr_willis: following these links, going to try the configure-enable again, last time it gave me issues
[08:20] <ironfroggy_LT> i found a cups doc that covers what im trying to do, but it mentions some 'linuxconf' utility that i cant find. what is that?
[08:20] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  on a new system - getting nvidia going is about a 2 min job for me.
[08:20] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  install 3 or 4 packages.. run that one command.. restartX.
[08:21] <campbch> could someone test <IP_ADDRESS> for me and tell me if it worked?
[08:21] <campbch> i dont have access to a computer outside the network
[08:21] <weswh-> Dr_willis: according to this it's only 1 package now. yeah, i will see if the command gives me the same error, hang on
[08:21] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  well that package has othe rdependencies. :P watch the messages - it proberly downloads 2 others.
[08:21] <Xenol> DR_willis in QTparted i have options like "begin of unallocated space" and "end of unallocated space" wat should i choose?
[08:22] <ironfroggy_LT> there is no way it makes sense for configuring CUPS to be this freaking hard to find out
[08:22] <campbch> is it working? anyone? :(
[08:22] <mc__> where  to get linuxconf?
[08:22] <ironfroggy_LT> mc__: i dunno, thats what i was asking
[08:22] <campbch> cups liked me, i guess... as long as the network is working, and i know what model the printer is for the driver, i've only had a problem when i first started
[08:23] <ironfroggy_LT> campbch: but how do you get cups to accept non-localhost connections?
[08:23] <ironfroggy_LT> such a simple thing and i cant get a shred of information on it
[08:23] <weswh-> Dr_willis: mind if i pm you the output i get from running that command?
[08:24] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  which command. :)
[08:24] <Xenol> skrot, so wat now if i made partitions?
[08:24] <mathiouzz> hi everyone
[08:25] <Xenol> skrot, well i have them in qtparted but how to create them?
[08:25] <Skrot> Xenol: I've never used qtparted
[08:25] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  yes.. it is detecting a  'changed' xorg.conf file.
[08:25] <weswh-> should i run the md5 command it asks about?
[08:25] <Skrot> Xenol: But usually you also need to format the partitions
[08:25] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  just check your xorg.conf and see if the Driver line. is set to 'nvidia' or 'nv'
[08:25] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  thats all that really needs to be changed.
[08:26] <Xenol> skrot, but when i use install icon on desktop i get isntallation crashed error dunno why it will make partitions but not format em
[08:26] <cloakable> Are there any PCMCIA bootdisks for Ubuntu?
[08:26] <Xenol> skrot. and in QTparted cant format those partitions cause they r only logical aint created yet and i am confused how to create em :/
[08:26] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:27] <weswh-> Dr_willis: none at all. the screen section is set to Generic Video Card, Generic Monitor, etc.
[08:27] <RawSewage> how do you use sox to batch convert a bunch of audio files
[08:27] <Zamber> beryl is funny :D
[08:27] <Zamber> when focused on one window it has more that 60fps
[08:27] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  do a ............   cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[08:27] <cloakable> !pcmcia
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <Zamber> changet to xchat it has 20 xD
[08:27] <Dr_willis>  Driver         "nvidia"
[08:27] <Dr_willis> is what i get..
[08:27] <Zamber> !beryl
[08:27] <Dr_willis> if its 'nv' you need to change it.
[08:27] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:27] <weswh-> its vesa, but i will check with cat
[08:28] <Xenol> skrot, partitions r made wat now? how to install kubuntu on disk and also GRUB?
[08:28] <weswh-> (this all got screwed up when i ran the dxconf tool..or whatever).
[08:28] <Dr_willis> Then theres your main issue. :) change vesa to nvidia and restart X and see if it takes off.
[08:28] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  OR see if theres a backup of your original X config.
[08:28] <Dr_willis> restore it.. then check its Driver Line.
[08:28] <mathiouzz> has someone already got problems with dvd burning under ubuntu ?
[08:29] <Xenol> dr_willis i have made partiotions with QTparted how can i install kubuntu and GRUB now plz?
[08:29] <mathiouzz> xenol just follow the installation script
[08:29] <mathiouzz> no ?
[08:29] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you realize that the installer can do that all for you.. :)
[08:29] <mathiouzz> yeah
[08:29] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  start the isntaller.. tell it where to mount / and /home to... and let it go..
[08:29] <mathiouzz> far better
[08:30] <thomas> hi
[08:30] <weswh-> do i need all of the special things the file had before (like specifically saying it was a Geforce FX5200 and all that), or can i just change the driver, and leave it all looking pretty bare?
[08:30] <Xenol> dr_willis i know but ppl said to use QTparted :}
[08:30] <mathiouzz> xenol then ok use qt parted but after make a standard install
[08:31] <thomas> is there anybody who can tell me briefly how to make my tv tuner work? I did that once before and I read the notes, but now I am not able to repeat it...
[08:31] <mathiouzz> and when it'll ask for the partitions to format and so one select the one you wish to be your root partition etc ..
[08:31] <Xenol> mathiouzz, GRUB will be installed automatically?
[08:31] <mathiouzz> sorry thomas don't know it
[08:31] <BluesKaj> GParted is much better and easier to use , but it has tobe downloaded and burned to cd , but works as alive cd ...I think it's the best so far :)
[08:31] <mathiouzz> course xenol
[08:32] <BluesKaj> thomas, which tv tuner?
[08:32] <thomas> blueskaj: there is a conexant CX23881 chip on it and the tuner hardware is a philips FM1216ME
[08:33] <Xenol> mathiouzz, which is home? /media?
[08:33] <thomas> blueskaj: I know I need the modules cx88xx and cx8800
[08:33] <BluesKaj> ok sounds like an ati wonder pro
[08:33] <mathiouzz> by default you only need 2 partitions : one root (/) and swap
[08:34] <Xenol> i want also home
[08:34] <BluesKaj> ok, what kind of video feed do you have thomas ?
[08:34] <mathiouzz> so make another partition with /home inside then ;)
[08:34] <Xenol> which mount point should i select for it?
[08:34] <mathiouzz> ./home
[08:34] <thomas> blueskaj: I want to use the antenna signal (if you mean that by video feed)
[08:34] <Xenol> dont  have it there :/
[08:34] <mathiouzz> pm xenol
[08:34] <Xenol> by default /media is set there
[08:35] <Xenol> mathiouzz, sec i need to register for PMs
[08:36] <BluesKaj> yes , thomas, ok here's a URL that will help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198703.
[08:36] <Dr_willis> Time to learn some linux fundamentals.. heh heh
[08:37] <thomas> blueskaj: thanks. I will check that and hopefully come back with a positiv result.
[08:37] <mathiouzz> l
[08:37] <mathiouzz> ok
[08:37] <weswh-> Dr_willis: i found a backup file (from before i even changed things in System Settings). it was set to nv, with all of the right resolutions. i changed that to nvidia. earlier i also tried commenting out the Wacom driver areas - and x wouldn't even start when I booted up. if i remove those again, and then at the bottom of the file..
[08:37] <BluesKaj> it worked for me ...i have the same chips and tuner , thomas
[08:38] <weswh-> where it says 'Server Layout', should i be ok?
[08:38] <weswh-> (i don't have anything wacom, and it's producing errors sometimes)
[08:38] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  dont worry about the wacom stuff.. its not a problem.. and trivial to fix. IF you reaize what all to coment out.  yes it has settings for wacom in the middle and bottom of the file
[08:38] <Xenol> mathiouzz?
[08:39] <weswh-> ok, i will leave it alone. do i need to restart my entire computer, or can i use that ctrl+alt+bckspc (i think?) to restart x?
[08:39] <weswh-> (if that will leave my irc session etc. in tact)
[08:39] <sinisterguy> is there any similar program to tomboy for kde?
[08:41] <Xenol> dr_willis one question when i selec from mount point i cant find there /home wat should i choose?
[08:41] <Xenol> dr_willis, nvm it seem i blind or drunk
[08:41] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  :)
[08:41] <Dr_willis> or both
[08:42] <Xenol> k when i set it should i tick reformat ?
[08:42] <weswh-> ok, back to a decent res now...but i am not seeing the 'nvidia splash screen' that everything mentions
[08:42] <weswh-> things definitely seem smoother though
[08:42] <inetpro> sinisterguy: have you used tomboy?
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> sinisterguy, knotes
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> weswh-, could you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:44] <mathiouzz> have someone already encountered errors during dvd burning ?
[08:44] <weswh-> Admiral_Chicago: sure. (also all of my visualizations in amarok are working now).
[08:44] <mathiouzz> like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36104/
[08:45] <mathiouzz> help me please
[08:45] <notech> weswh-: try, glxinfo | grep -i rendering
[08:45] <ironfroggy_LT> ok i think i have things configured so i can use CUPS throughout my network, but i cant configure it because its asking me to go to https://server-host-name:631/admin, which is redirecting to a google lucky search for "server host name" when it cant find it. what gives?
[08:45] <ironfroggy_LT> ping server-host-name does work
[08:45] <inetpro> knotes? Tomboy is a desktop note-taking application maybe that's where it's similar to knotes but then....
[08:45] <inetpro> lets you organise your notes
[08:45] <inetpro>  intelligently by allowing you to easily link ideas together with Wiki style interconnects.
[08:46] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: server-host-name is your hostname
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> i have a problem with my X settings, basically beryl borked my install and i'm stuck on GNOME
[08:46] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: i know that...
[08:46] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: what im saying, is why cant firefox find it when i can in fact ping it, ssh to it, etc.
[08:46] <BluesKaj> mathiouzz, K3b ?
[08:47] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: oh, sorry. this on the same box as the cups server?
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> inetpro, i'm not sure if you can do that in Knotes
[08:47] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: no, im setting CUPS on my server.
[08:47] <BluesKaj> beryl is a screwup for ATI cards...it's dangerous
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> tomboy works on KDE for the most part, just a few bugs
[08:47] <weswh-> Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36107/
[08:47] <inetpro> don't think so either
[08:48] <weswh-> notech: Direct Rendering: Yes
[08:48] <Admiral_Chicago> weswh-, give me a sec, I'm multi tasking
[08:48] <notech> weswh-: then 3D drivers are working
[08:49] <Xenol> dr_willis when i have in mount screen disk as hda 1 hda 2 it will mount them into linux?
[08:50] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  i dont have the installer memorized.. its not too hard to figure them out. You want one to be mounted as / and the other as /home
[08:50] <Xenol> yeah but not win disk which r HDA i gues
[08:51] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  this is when you have to learn how linux handles drives and what disks are what.. you just ran gparted.. you diodent notice which ones are what?
[08:51] <Xenol> then i should leave those as default set / and /home tick reformat and wait to install em and GRUB and then use kubuntu on HD?
[08:51] <ubuntu_> is there a way to detect a hdd after linux has booted up even if the hdd wasn't pluged in when the bios was detecting the hardware?
[08:51] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you plugged in an IDE drive while the ystem was powered up?
[08:51] <ironfroggy_LT> so how does my client find my server by hostname anyway?
[08:51] <ironfroggy_LT> because it seems to work some places but not others.
[08:52] <BluesKaj> Xenol, windows will be hda1,.if you are adding linux to a a new partition it will be hda2 or 3
[08:52] <Xenol> HDA= first psychical disk HDB=second psychical disk on HDA i have windows and on HDB one 100 GB
[08:52] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: seems odd if you can ping by host name
[08:52] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: i thought so too
[08:52] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: believe it has to do with the hosts file
[08:52] <ironfroggy_LT> ...
[08:52] <ironfroggy_LT> duh. i was in an ssh session on that box when i ran ping
[08:53] <notech> heh
[08:53] <ubuntu_> ya, it works in windows.  i've been told it damages the hdd, but in this case i've got no choice
[08:53] <weswh-> has anyone run Deluge (bittorrent client) on Edgy?
[08:53] <Dr_willis> never heard of it weswh-
[08:53] <Xenol> dr_willis i got smth like no root user WTF is that?
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> weswh-, i run Ktorrent.
[08:53] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  no idea.. i would guess you are trying to hard to do things that the instller should be making trivially easy.
[08:54] <weswh-> it's new, gtk based...but supposedly very good. yeah, i am running ktorrent also at the moment. i wish it had a "test connection" feature like azureus does
[08:54] <thomas> blueskaj: thx for the link. I can now get a picture with tvtimer, but still no sound...
[08:54] <weswh-> or i knew another way to test my incoming port connections
[08:54] <thomas> blueskaj: the mixer settings are not the reason
[08:54] <Dr_willis> wine utorrent.exe
[08:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:54] <zorglu_> weswh-: what is supposed to be very good in it ?
[08:54] <Xenol> dr_willis one question while i am installing should i be surfing and watching film or wait till installation is done?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  i never use the live cd installer.. i always use the alternative cd/installer... I doubt if web surfing will slow it down much
[08:55] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: have you heard they just sold the source to bittorrent inc and the original author will no mnore dev on it ?
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> weswh-, okay your X is okay, maybe the splash screen will appear when you reboot.
[08:55] <Dr_willis> anything else accessing the hd can slow it down
[08:55] <weswh-> zorglu_: well, i don't know much about it all. but i have heard that ktorrent isn't optimal for the speeds of the entire swarm, or something.
[08:55] <zorglu_> weswh-: ok
[08:55] <ubuntu_> i'm running a live cd on a laptop.  i forgot the bios pw, so the boot order is stuck at: floppy, hdd, cd.  so to boot from cd i have to remove the hdd, and now i want my live cd to see the hdd, but how?
[08:55] <BluesKaj> thomas, be sure to change the card: options cx88xx card=5" > cx88xx,  to: options cx88xx card=4" > cx88xx
[08:56] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: put in the hosts file the ip and host name of the box you want to access by hostname
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu_, sudo fdisk l-
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> then mount it
[08:56] <ironfroggy_LT> ubuntu_: so take out the battery and reset the bios
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> also, you could reset the bios PW by clearing the CMOS
[08:56] <ironfroggy_LT> notech: already got it, now that i realized my mistake. thanks.
[08:56] <ubuntu_> i've reset the bios, the pw won't reset
[08:56] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: ok :)
[08:57] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: phone your vendor and ask for the bypass
[08:57] <zorglu_> !netinstall | ubuntu_
[08:57] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:57] <ubuntu_> dell sucks and  this thing was out of warernty a long time ago
[08:58] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: the first link will give you way ot install ubuntu wihotut booting on cd
[08:58] <notech> it'll be a header that you jump differently, at least on Dell's i've seen
[08:58] <ubuntu_> who said nething about installing ubuntu?
[08:58] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: ok what do you wanna do ?
[08:59] <ubuntu_> i want to mount the hdd
[08:59] <ironfroggy_LT> ubuntu_: one option is to use a floppy bootloader
[08:59] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: ok plug it then
[08:59] <DennisTT> Why isn't Kubuntu letting me have a higher resolution than 853x6__
[08:59] <Dr_willis> DennisTT,  i would guess either the video card drivers are confused.. or need installed, or the montor settings are wrong.
[08:59] <zorglu_> DennisTT: a matter of driver/monitor configuration
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> !res
[08:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:00] <ubuntu_> where do i get a floppy bootloader? i've looked, the only thing i can find tells me how to get one from my hdd and put it on floppy
[09:00] <notech> DennisTT: verify the refresh rates in xorg.conf match your monitor specs
[09:00] <zorglu_> ubuntu_: the link i gave you will provide it
[09:00] <DennisTT> Thanks
[09:01] <notech> root: is not very wise to irc as root
[09:01] <coreymon77> is not very wise to do anything as root other than what needs to be done as root
[09:02] <ironfroggy_LT> where can i get the command lpadmin?
[09:02] <notech> better and more complete :)
[09:02] <zorglu_> !info lpadmin
[09:02] <ubotu> Package lpadmin does not exist in any distro I know
[09:02] <zorglu_> not there:)
[09:03] <ironfroggy_LT> now i know i can get it
[09:03] <Xenol> dr_willis last question GRUB will be isntaalled to HD0 which disk is that?
[09:03] <ironfroggy_LT> ive used it on two kubuntu boxes already
[09:03] <Fragrag> Why am I stuck on 'waiting for header' when I want to install something?
[09:03] <notech> ironfroggy_LT: not sure, but it should be one of the cups packages. might search for cups packages
[09:04] <ironfroggy_LT> i have it installed on another box, how can i find what package it comes from?
[09:04] <zorglu_> ironfroggy_LT:
[09:04] <zorglu_> $ dpkg -S /usr/sbin/lpadmin
[09:04] <zorglu_> cupsys-client: /usr/sbin/lpadmin
[09:04] <weswh-> i just plugged in a firewire hard drive (hfs) - it pulled it right up, but it says unmounted. i can see the contents in /media/System Drive/ - how can i tell what device it is to mount it? amarok seemed to think sda something?
[09:05] <ironfroggy_LT> thanks. i thought it should turn up in apt-cache search lpadmin
[09:05] <ironfroggy_LT> would be nice if my kind of printer (very common model) was supported out of the box. how i go about getting that done?
[09:05] <ironfroggy_LT> i dont want others to suffer as i have!
[09:05] <notech> weswh-:  dmesg should show it
[09:06] <zorglu_> ironfroggy_LT: i dont have any printer :)
[09:06] <ironfroggy_LT> zorglu_: get one already, its 2006!
[09:06] <zorglu_> yep and soon 2007!!!
[09:06] <zorglu_> just after that i heard 2008 :)
[09:06] <zorglu_> wow time flies by :)
[09:06] <ironfroggy_LT> dont it tho?
[09:07] <zorglu_> and they are hard to configure :) bla :)
[09:07] <ironfroggy_LT> hey you can get a networked printer-scanner-fax for under a 100 bucks. its time to buy.
[09:07] <Dreary> Hi, any Polish is here? =)
[09:07] <zorglu_> !pl
[09:07] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:07] <zorglu_> a lot there :)
[09:07] <inetpro> ironfroggy_LT: did you look at http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[09:07] <Zamber> hej ;)
[09:07] <weswh-> notech: as far as creating a new mount point (in /media) is that typically a root operation?
[09:07] <Dreary> siema / good to know :]
[09:07] <Xenol> who can help me with installation plz?
[09:07] <ironfroggy_LT> inetpro: yes
[09:07] <Zamber> zorglu_ polska? :P
[09:07] <weswh-> but when things are mounted, they are generally avail to users?
[09:08] <Dreary> So im goin to #ubuntu-pl
[09:08] <ironfroggy_LT> inetpro: but that isnt as helpful as just being able to use my printer out of the box.
[09:08] <Xenol> PLZ someone
[09:08] <Xenol> why i get this?
[09:08] <zorglu_> Zamber: well i know the !pl :) this is all i know :)
[09:08] <DennisTT> Thank you zorglu_
[09:08] <DennisTT> That seemed to fix it
[09:08] <notech> weswh-: root, sudo, whichever. it isn't writable to by a user
[09:08] <inetpro> ironfroggy_LT: i hear you... been there too
[09:08] <Zamber> !ru
[09:08] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:08] <Zamber> :D
[09:08] <zorglu_> DennisTT: cool :) event if i dont remember what i tol dyou :)
[09:09] <ironfroggy_LT> ok why is CUPS making me to go to https and not actually working? i can find the box now, but it wont connect via https, which i dont care if i dont use.
[09:09] <weswh-> notech: hmm, i was wrong - this is actually a mounted removable medium. the problem is the files i need are locked. this is an HFS drive, from a mac computer i had that died. similar file systems and all, any clue about that?
[09:09] <weswh-> taking the data from one machine to another like that, it isn't really 'protected' is it?
[09:10] <notech> weswh-: sorry, never dealt with HFS
[09:10] <ironfroggy_LT> can i make cups not care about https?
[09:10] <weswh-> notech: well, it seems to be a local issue. i go to a folder and it says "sorry, you don't have enough permissions to access this folder"
[09:12] <Xenol> Traceback (most recent call last):
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 166, in ?
[09:12] <Xenol>     main()
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 161, in main
[09:12] <ubuntu__> Hi! I have a problem installing kubuntu 6.10. After partitioning and copying all files the installer hangs at 99% "Downloading package lists".
[09:12] <Xenol>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 57, in install
[09:12] <notech> weswh-: then it was mounted for only root access
[09:12] <weswh-> ok, practical advice here - i had this problem before. in order to access the data on the drive, i have to go into kdesu konqueror - the only problem is that when i do this, and copy the files to my home directory, they all end up being owned by root, and i have to change the permissions.
[09:12] <Xenol>     ret = wizard.run()
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 336, in run
[09:12] <ubuntu__> Any help appreciated!
[09:12] <Xenol>     self.progress_loop()
[09:12] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 580, in progress_loop
[09:13] <weswh-> notech: ah, how can i 'remount' it for user access?
[09:13] <Xenol>     if dbfilter.run_command(auto_process=True) != 0:
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/filteredcommand.py", line 153, in run_command
[09:13] <Xenol>     self.start(auto_process=auto_process)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/filteredcommand.py", line 62, in start
[09:13] <Xenol>     self.db = DebconfCommunicator(PACKAGE, cloexec=True)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 125, in __init__
[09:13] <zorglu_> Xenol: i see the bug:)
[09:13] <Xenol>     write=self.dccomm.tochild)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 48, in __init__
[09:13] <Xenol>     self.setUp(title)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 51, in setUp
[09:13] <Xenol>     self.version = self.version(2)
[09:13] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 60, in <lambda>
[09:13] <notech> weswh-: i'm not on kubuntu at the moment but if its similar, mount it with the umask=0 option
[09:13] <Xenol>     lambda *args, **kw: self.command(command, *args, **kw))
[09:14] <Xenol>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 81, in command
[09:14] <Xenol>     status = int(status)
[09:14] <Xenol> ValueError: invalid literal for int():
[09:14] <Dr_willis> weswh-,  learning to do things with the shell.. is much safer then running konqueror as root
[09:14] <Xenol> why i get this
[09:14] <Xenol> when i want to isntall?
[09:14] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you realize that most people have you on ignore now.
[09:14] <zorglu_> Xenol: because you dont know how to use pastebin
[09:14] <ibert> Is there a tool like Grip for the command line? want to run it on a box without display.
[09:15] <junky> hello
[09:15] <ubuntu__> ibert: use cdparanoia
[09:15] <Dr_willis> ibert,  you could always use vnc, and have a remote desktop on it. there are command line ripper tools out. check freshmeat.net
[09:15] <junky> plz, someone can help me?? i'm new in kubuntu
[09:15] <Dr_willis> junky,  #1 - ask a question. Phrase it well...
[09:15] <junky> my sound don't work
[09:15] <thomas> BluesKaj: sorry for disturbing again. I check everything: the hardware (cables) the settings described in the link you gave me and the kmixer settings. I still do net get sound.
[09:15] <zorglu_> ibert: you can just ssh forwarding too, you would have k3b running on the non display box and you will use the nice gui
[09:16] <Dr_willis> junky,  and your sound card is a ?
[09:16] <junky> i try with drivers... but im new... and i do   a lot of time here
[09:16] <thomas> blueskaj: what I found out: when I change the volume slector in kdetv, nothing changes in kmixer. Is there any device I need to set?
[09:16] <Xenol> zorglu, so i wont be able to install kubuntu?
[09:16] <ibert> zorglu_: yeah I know. but this is machine without X its jast my LAMP
[09:16] <zorglu_> !sound | junky
[09:16] <ubotu> junky: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:16] <Xenol> i also tried 6.06.1 and same shit
[09:16] <Xenol> Dr_willis i know but none could helped me cause i get same bug everytime i wanted to install i got this bug was on IRC one week ago but no answer :(
[09:16] <junky> is integrate, abit nv8, realtek
[09:16] <zorglu_> ibert: ok
[09:16] <ibert> ubuntu__: thanks. I'll check
[09:16] <junky> oks
[09:16] <Xenol> zorglu can u help me?
[09:17] <zorglu_> Xenol: no :))
[09:17] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  sounds tome like the cd is either messed up. you got somthing really funky going on.
[09:17] <Xenol> dr_willis i newly burned this version destroyed one CD when i was lastly traing to install
[09:17] <Dr_willis> junky,  you may want to do some googling to see if that sound card/chipset is supported by ALSA at all.  also the Ubuntu wiki pages may help.
[09:17] <junky> i dont understand
[09:18] <junky> oks i serch if my sound card is supported...
[09:18] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you try using the alternative installer cd yet?
[09:18] <inetpro> how do I disable PrintScreen button from running ksnapshot
[09:19] <inetpro> don't know how many times i've pressed it by mistake
[09:19] <Xenol> dr_willis i have it downloaded but havent tried it yet i think i dont get graphic mode there and i am afraid i wont be able to install it :/
[09:19] <ubuntu__> Anyone an idea, why the installation might hang at 99% when "Downloading package lists"? I see connection attempts to a mirror003.isp.belgacom.be. Why did kubuntu chose that mirror? I never selected it.
[09:20] <Dr_willis> inetpro,  look under the 'keyboard shortcuts' control panel icon
[09:20] <inetpro> i don't find it thre
[09:20] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  you dont need graphical mode to install the system.. never have.
[09:20] <Xenol> dr_willis can i burn alternative CD version to dvd-rw?
[09:21] <junky> ?? i don't see if my sound card is compatible with alsa
[09:21] <inetpro> Dr_willis: ?
[09:21] <AMICOHacker> kmail
[09:22] <Dr_willis> inetpro,  im still trying to figure out how you 'accidently' hit that key. :)
[09:22] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  since its a cd.. no.
[09:22] <ironfroggy_LT> the cups web frontend is forcing me to use https at the end of the configuration process, but everytime it seems to lock cups up completely!
[09:22] <Xenol> dr_willis any ideas how could i install kubuntu without downlaoding new instllation burning new cd?
[09:22] <junky> someone know what i have to do,? i need to install drivers for my sound card?
[09:22] <inetpro> Dr_willis: my keyboard layout is really stupid - print screen is where insert should be
[09:22] <junky> is an integrated sound card
[09:23] <inetpro> everytime i press shift insert for copy
[09:23] <Dr_willis> Xenol,  not really.  the wiki docs may have some methods. ive never bothered.
[09:23] <ironfroggy_LT> there has to be a way to disable https for CUPS, any ideas?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy_LT,  the cups homepage/docs and the cups config files whold be the place to look
[09:23] <Fragrag> Why when installing programmes, am I stuck on 'waiting for headers'? Are the repositories down?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy_LT,  of course I like the cups web interface
[09:24] <ironfroggy_LT> Dr_willis: i like it too, but i just want to use http and not https
[09:27] <thomas> does anybody have an idea, why I can see the video in kdetv, but do not get the sound?
[09:27] <junky> plz someone can help me with sound ??? please
[09:27] <weswh-> whatever happened before when the system automounted the firewire drive, it didn't allow me to copy over any files. it said "the directory /whatever does not exist" (when i was browsing it, and actually playing some music off of it). so i want to remount it, and be able to access it as a normal user not root.
[09:27] <Xenol> dr_willis so wat should i do now?
[09:28] <Fragrag> Is the repository down? I did 'ping be.archive.ubuntu.com' in konsole and I don't get any answer