[00:35] <MTec007> is there a command to wake up the screen?
[00:44] <marybuntu> http://imagebin.org/62401 guys i'm a little afraid of restarting cause i got this error on update saying i had corrupted package archive linux headers can anyone counsel please
[00:47] <TheSheep> headers are needed for compiling things and such
[00:47] <TheSheep> say, did you ran out of disk space?
[00:48] <TheSheep> did you run*
[00:48] <marybuntu> um, what do you mean run*?
[00:50] <marybuntu> TheSheep, disk usage says i have 5.5 gb available
[00:51] <TheSheep> you only have one partition?
[00:51] <TheSheep> what does 'df -h' say?
[00:56] <marybuntu> TheSheep: sorry, had to let the dog out.
[00:57] <marybuntu> ok, so you want me to open term and type df -h  ?
[01:02] <marybuntu> TheSheep, http://pastebin.org/14791
[01:08] <marybuntu> you still with me? :)
[01:11] <marybuntu> mamas hollering at me to take the garbage out , she doesn't understand the potential gravity of the situation
[01:15] <marybuntu> ok, i back; it raind so hard here can't get the garbage can out to the road, the swail is as deep as a moat
[01:16] <marybuntu> TheSheep, can you help, i don't know if whole system will damage if i restart ... http://pastebin.org/14791
[01:22] <marybuntu> http://imagebin.org/62401 guys i'm a little afraid of restarting cause i got this error on update saying i had corrupted package archive linux headers can anyone counsel please
[01:22] <marybuntu> http://pastebin.org/14791
[01:25] <marybuntu> why would i get a corrupted file through the update manager anyways?  just error in transmission?  should i try to rerun the update mgr?
[01:29] <MTec007> is there a command to wake up the screen?
[01:30] <genii> If you interrupt an update in mid-download of a file it will still have /var/cache/apt/archives/filename.deb      but it will be corrupt
[01:30] <marybuntu> nope, reloaded update mgr, and reran, still have same error msg http://imagebin.org/62401
[01:31] <genii> marybuntu: For the reason I just described, rm whatever .deb file it's complaining about from the apt archives
[01:31] <marybuntu> genii, i never interrupted it
[01:31] <marybuntu> howto?
[01:33] <genii> marybuntu: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6.28*deb             then try the update again
[01:37] <marybuntu> k, lemme try, thx
[01:42] <marybuntu> genii, this is moms computer; could operations i was doing on my laptop in the other room on the same network have 'interrupted' the update?
[01:42] <genii> Quite possibly. All it takes if for the file not to have d/l right to make it this way
[01:43] <marybuntu> so i should in the future keep other boxes quiet during updates?
[01:44] <marybuntu> ya, ok, the update seems to have completed successfully now, no error messages ... thanks
[01:45] <marybuntu> live and learn
[01:45] <marybuntu> k, thanks guys gonna shut this old box down
[02:01] <MTec007> Does any body know if there is there a command to wake up the screen?
[02:05] <genii> MTec007: setterm -reset        ?
[02:06] <genii> (according to setterm manpage)
[02:13] <MTec007> ill try it next chance i get, thanks
[05:38] <dca> hi
[05:38] <unitheory> human life!
[05:38] <dca> I am not able to mount my fixeddrives
[05:38] <unitheory> error?
[05:38] <dca> how can i mount that in Xubuntu
[05:38] <dca> no.. not even getting any option
[05:39] <dca> whats the command
[05:39] <dca> if i use gnome i will get it mounted to /media/disk
[05:39] <dca> automatically
[05:40] <dca> but if i login to XFCE session then..cannot see disk folder in .media
[05:42] <unitheory> if you open up thunar, the file manager, does it display your disk on the left panel?
[05:43] <dca> no
[05:43] <dca> its not displaying!!
[05:44] <dca> :(
[05:44] <unitheory> well you can probably mount it manually
[05:45] <dca> how...
[05:45] <unitheory> sudo fdisk -l
[05:46] <dca> i am new to linux
[05:46] <unitheory> ok well it takes 3 commands.  one to figure out the name of your drive, one to make a mount point, and one to mount your drive to the mount point
[05:47] <dca> i figured out this command
[05:47] <dca> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/disk -o defaults,force,umask=0
[05:48] <dca> but its showing error folder disk not existing
[05:48] <dca> do i have to create the folder disk evrytime
[05:48] <unitheory> no, once is enough
[05:48] <unitheory> sudo mkdir /media/disk
[05:49] <dca> but i i would have to execute this command each and everytime i restart..?
[05:49] <dca> is it like that?
[05:49] <unitheory> no, you can add it to your fstab
[05:49] <dca> the above command?
[05:49] <unitheory> no
[05:50] <dca> please help.. :(
[05:50] <dca> i donno much
[05:50] <dca> i meant this command sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/disk -o defaults,force,umask=0
[05:51] <unitheory> i know
[05:51] <dca> :)
[05:51] <unitheory> are you sure /dev/sda2 is the name of the drive you want to mount?
[05:51] <dca> there are two drives.. this is my c drive
[05:51] <dca> one more is there
[05:52] <unitheory> ok, first open fstab:
[05:52] <unitheory> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:52] <unitheory> if you have gedit of course. it sounds like you installed xubuntu-desktop on an ubuntu install.
[05:52] <dca> done
[05:52] <dca> opened
[05:52] <unitheory> at the bottom add a line that looks like this:
[05:53] <dca> k
[05:53] <unitheory> /dev/sda2  /media/disk ntfs relatime,errors=remount-ro 0  1
[05:54] <dca> for sda3 also same command?
[05:55] <dca> different folder
[05:55] <dca> i guess :)
[05:55] <unitheory> for whicever drive(s) you are having trouble mounting
[05:55] <unitheory> whichever
[05:56] <unitheory> a clean xubuntu install shouldn't have any trouble auto-mounting drives.  when you install xubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu, it doesn't work as well
[05:57] <unitheory> don't delete anything that was already in that file
[05:58] <dca> okay
[05:58] <dca> done
[05:58] <dca> how to unmount the drives
[05:58] <unitheory> you need different mount points for each drive
[05:58] <dca> i created two folders disk and disk-1
[05:59] <dca> in /media
[05:59] <unitheory> in thunar, you can right-click on the drive and choose unmount.
[05:59] <unitheory> dca good job ;]
[05:59] <dca> hey!!!
[06:00] <unitheory> if for some reason you like using the command line you can sudo umount /media/disk
[06:00] <unitheory> (that's umount, not unmount)
[06:00] <dca> k.. in thunar i cnat see the drive options to choose unmount
[06:01] <dca> cant
[06:01] <dca> i will use the command
[06:01] <unitheory> of the left it should display the drives you mounted, yes?
[06:02] <dca> no..
[06:02] <dca> :)
[06:02] <unitheory> but they're mounted?
[06:02] <dca> no....i will restart
[06:02] <dca> and see
[06:02] <unitheory> didnt you manually mount them?
[06:03] <dca> i had mounted them manually to different points
[06:03] <dca> but cannot see that in thunar
[06:06] <dca> let me restart and check..
[06:06] <dca> will get back to u
[06:06] <unitheory> k
[06:06] <dca> THANKS A TON
[06:06] <unitheory> no problem
[06:06] <dca> Have a nice time... :-D
[06:06] <dca> i am just learning!!
[06:07] <unitheory> well mounting drives by hand is pretty advanced
[06:11] <dca> hi..unitheory
[06:11] <dca> it worked
[06:11] <dca> thanks
[06:11] <unitheory> great!
[06:11] <dca> but one small trouble.. i cant see the mounted drive on the side pane of thunar
[06:12] <dca> how can i add it there?
[06:12] <unitheory> are they in /media/ ?
[06:12] <dca> yes
[06:12] <unitheory> ok, so in media just drag disk and disk-1 to the left panel ;]
[06:13] <unitheory> that ought to bookmark them
[06:13] <dca> ooops!!!! that simple.. fool i am .. Thanks friend for ur help..
[06:14] <unitheory> you're very welcome!
[06:14] <dca> Xubuntu is simple and fast!!!
[06:14] <unitheory> i assure you that a clean xubuntu install has fewer problems
[06:15] <dca> hmm.. earlier i was using Ubuntu and yesterday only installed XFCE
[06:16] <unitheory> yeah what you have now is an ubuntu/xubuntu mix
[06:16] <unitheory> so it has some identity problems sometimes ;]
[06:16] <dca> yes..
[06:17] <dca> oho.. i havent come across any issues so far..
[06:17] <dca> but any tips.. i would like to cintinue with Xubuntu..
[06:17] <dca> i had some some windows lag in Gnome.. but here its fast..
[06:18] <dca> no lags
[06:18] <unitheory> i run xubuntu on my tablet pc
[06:19] <dca> cool .. whats tablet pc?
[06:20] <unitheory> it has a stylus/pen to control the mouse
[06:20] <dca> ya, got it.. wikipedia  :d
[06:20] <dca> anyways, thanks friend... !
[06:21] <unitheory> welcome!
[06:21] <dca> will trouble you if i face further issues ...hehe ... :-D
[06:21] <unitheory> i'm off to bed
[06:21] <unitheory> 1 in the morning here
[06:27] <miguelonnnnn> hi ! 8 here, beat this ! :P xd
[07:09] <PiousMinion> Hi, I got a fresh copy of xubuntu 9.04, and did a slow burn on some good optical media. The live environment seems to work fine except for the fact that d-clicking install logs me out and then back in.... and nothing more.
[07:09] <PiousMinion> Ideas anyone?
[07:11] <PiousMinion> I'm honestly just about fed up with uBUGtu and all its variants, but I thought I'd give the latest xubuntu a try on my mothers PC.  I just don't have any of these problems with debian, archlinux, gentoo, etc, but those aren't your parents/grandparents distros.  :/
[07:13] <Sysi> what's with debian?
[07:14] <Sysi> just make everything redy for them
[07:15] <PiousMinion> That may be what I divert to.  I was just hoping someone had some insight on why this isn't working.
[07:17] <Sysi> how much ram?
[07:17] <PiousMinion> 512
[07:18] <PiousMinion> Also, starting the install directly from the boot menu starts the installer until I select to manually partition.  At which point it dies, then logs back in and leaves me at the live desktop.
[07:34] <PiousMinion> ok, screw it.    At least it would have installed. heh
[07:56] <thejayjetson> haven't gotten anywhere with linux-can't do simple things like auto pair my bluetooth mouse-full screen the os-work on resolution-watch a youtube video-can anyone help with any of these?
[08:10] <thejayjetson> anyone actually availible?
[09:00] <premorphos> i have used linux/xubuntu for 8mounts now my system is gr8. iv lerned so much and now im back in this channel to help outers.
[09:02] <premorphos> i want to thank all of you who patiently helped and answerd my "noob" questions.
[09:02] <Eric_K> :)
[09:03] <Eric_K> #xubuntu-offtopic feels quite deserted tho
[09:03] <Sysi> there are offtopic for this too?
[09:03] <Eric_K> ye
[09:08] <Eric_K> this is the blog from where i got the xubuntu-offtopic chan info http://open.knome.fi/2009/09/03/fill-in-the-ubuntu-irc-channels/
[09:09] <premorphos> cool il check it out.
[09:16] <premorphos> one advice irssi is by far a superior irc client, and it fits so nicely in xubuntu,
[09:17] <Sysi> irssi is horrible
[09:17] <Sysi> xchat <3
[09:17] <Sysi> ewething ready
[09:17] <Sysi> *everything
[09:23] <psycho_oreos> problem with xchat is that you can't run it in CLI or through ssh sessions
[09:24] <Sysi> graphical ssh :)
[09:24] <psycho_oreos> in other words, if you updated video driver or something but xorg no longer fires up properly and you want to seek help on the irc, you're out of luck if you're forced to use xchat :P
[09:25] <Sysi> but yeah, irssi is only to shell
[09:25] <Sysi> dunno about weechat etc but irssi is most common
[09:25] <psycho_oreos> and then there's people who prefer lean-mean programs.. programs that run in CLI rather than GUI
[09:26] <psycho_oreos> I'll admit that irssi isn't great but fwiw, its very portable
[09:27] <psycho_oreos> more user friendly than the likes of bx imo
[09:27] <Sysi> irssi is good if you want to configure it yourself
[09:27] <psycho_oreos> I beg to differ, irssi is available in the repository
[09:36] <_Pete_> irssi successfully compiled & run on N900 \o/
[09:37] <Sysi> xchat is on repositories already <3
[09:37] <Sysi> but i use ssh
[09:52] <premorphos> its funny my laptop is the crapiest laptop ever. a sensor is broken so it limits the prossesor badly. so i run xubuntu and go for lightweght apps,, such as irssi. and it runs butifuly
[09:54] <premorphos> i made it my sparetime project making a computer with capacity as a pocketcalculator to run linux and work properly
[09:55] <premorphos> and now it does.. im done with it, gone get rid of it, but xubuntu made it possible
[10:07] <SiDi> pocketcalculator ? :p
[10:07] <SiDi> ouch
[10:09] <Sysi> i have n810, repos include TI emulator but i haven't tried it yet
[11:24] <jarnos> Why was keyboard shortcut for Xfce menu removed in Jaunty? Can't see it in Karmic either.
[12:06] <SiDi> jarnos: i didnt even notice there was such a shortcut :)
[12:06] <SiDi> it might have been forgotten due to the keyboard shortcut backend changes in jaunty, you might wanna file a bug
[12:07] <SiDi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/+filebug <- jarnos
[12:27] <SuperUser|David> hi. does anybody know his way with compiz?
[12:28] <SuperUser|David> i have a problem...
[12:29] <SuperUser|David> hello?
[12:30] <SuperUser|David> can anyone help me?
[12:32] <Sysi> i tried it
[12:33] <Sysi> didn't get it work with xfwm, emerald worked
[12:35] <jarnos> SiDi: ok
[12:36] <SuperUser|David> i have emerald and compiz installed, but somehow the compiz settings manager doesn't save any changes
[12:36] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: hello
[12:37] <SiDi> You should directly ask your question when you need some help
[12:37] <SiDi> This allows people to answer when they have a look at the channel
[12:37] <SiDi> What do you mean by doesn't save any changes ?
[12:37] <SiDi> Do you mean that compiz does work but it doesnt care about the settings changes or do you mean that after reboot, compiz doesnt run anymore ?
[12:38] <SuperUser|David> compiz runs perfectly fine, but the changes i make in ccsm are not saved. i cant change anything.
[12:39] <SiDi> You should have a .compiz folder, or a .config/compiz folder
[12:39] <SuperUser|David> where do i
[12:39] <SiDi> can you please check that you own this folder ?
[12:39] <SuperUser|David>  look?
[12:39] <SiDi> You can do that by typing "ls -l .compiz" in a terminal
[12:39] <SuperUser|David> ok, wait
[12:39] <SiDi> or "ls -l .config/compiz" (i forgot which one it is :p)
[12:40] <SiDi> (Did you ever run compiz with sudo ?)
[12:40] <SuperUser|David> drwx------ 2 d4r3c1 d4r3c1 4096 2009-09-04 13:19 session
[12:40] <SuperUser|David> i ran compiz with sudo, no change
[12:41] <SuperUser|David> .config/compiz does not exist
[12:42] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: i actually didnt want you to run it with sudo :)
[12:42] <SuperUser|David> well, i tried, no change. ^^
[12:43] <SiDi> i asked because it is a thing that you should never do (otherwise your config files would be stolen by the root account and you couldnt modify them anymore, which is the cause #1 of your problem :P)
[12:43] <SuperUser|David> ok
[12:43] <SiDi> What compiz packages did you install exactly ? And what xubuntu version do you use ?
[12:44] <SuperUser|David> xubuntu 9.04. and i followed this: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[12:45] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: i'll follow the same and try to reproduce the problem then
[12:45] <SuperUser|David> says there to install this: compiz-core compiz-plugins compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra emerald compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:45] <SuperUser|David> done it with the terminal
[12:46] <SuperUser|David> compiz works, i get a nice glassy window and some effects of compiz work. they must be the standard ones.
[12:46] <SuperUser|David> and i need to change them
[12:46] <SuperUser|David> i cant even import a proile
[12:46] <SuperUser|David> profile
[12:47] <SuperUser|David> SiDi: I have to go for now, but I'll be back in about an hour.
[12:47] <SiDi> While im installing all of that, may you please jump in #compiz and ask them ?
[12:47] <SiDi> okey, no worries
[12:47] <SiDi> jump in #compiz too when you're back
[12:47] <SuperUser|David> ok, thanks
[12:48] <SuperUser|David> see you later
[15:04] <DDT> Hi. I am new user xubuntu. I just installed it. Now I am doing update of system - but it is so slow. Only about 1000 bytes / second. Is it usual? Thx
[15:05] <TheSheep> it depends on yur internet connection, you can improve it by sing a mirror that is near you, instead of the global one
[15:05] <SiDi_> DDT: hello
[15:05] <DDT> my connection is faster
[15:05] <DDT> hi SiDi_
[15:06] <SiDi_> Can you please use an internet speed test from a website in your country to check your connection's speed ?
[15:06] <DDT> it was working fast - maybe first MB, then it slows down.
[15:06] <SiDi_> In which country do you live ?
[15:06] <DDT> slovakia.
[15:06] <SiDi_> Alright
[15:06] <DDT> is speed test inside the xubuntu?
[15:07] <SiDi_> may you please click on Applications -> System -> Sources of software ?
[15:07] <DDT> ok
[15:07] <SiDi_> You'll be asked your password, type it, and then a window will open
[15:07] <DDT> I am in.
[15:08] <SiDi_> On this window, you can choose which server to use for the updates
[15:08] <DDT> it is written "server for Slovakia"
[15:08] <DDT> I will try other.
[15:08] <SiDi_> Click on it, a list will open, click on other
[15:08] <SiDi_> there are 3 servers in your country
[15:08] <SiDi_> Maybe one of them will be more responsive :)
[15:09] <DDT> yes - but I let it find best server for me.
[15:09] <DDT> it is in progress now
[15:09] <SiDi_> Okey
[15:09] <DDT> But when I change server - it will applied immediatelly?
[15:09] <DDT> *apply
[15:10] <DDT> or I must stop update in progress
[15:10] <SiDi_> It will apply next time, I think
[15:11] <DDT> what will happen if I cancel update now?
[15:11] <DDT> Can I update it next time? No harm to system?
[15:11] <SiDi_> Well, if you cancel the download, it'll try to install the packages already downloaded, and then itll ask you later to download the other ones
[15:11] <SiDi_> (i think :p)
[15:11] <SiDi_> you can use http://www.detronics.sk/bandwidth/meter.php to check your network speed
[15:12] <DDT> lol but I am on other PC now :D it is on the other table :D
[15:12] <SiDi_> well, just type 'adsl speed test' in google.sk ;)
[15:12] <SiDi_> just make sure to test on a site from your country, it will be more accurate
[15:13] <SiDi_> (Why don't you use the xubuntu PC for IRC ? :p)
[15:13] <jiohdi> this morning I booted up to find no side/bottom panels, no network connection, but everything else working, help
[15:13] <DDT> I have it
[15:13] <DDT> speed was about 800 Kbit - but I was in the same time downloading - so it will be more speedy.
[15:13] <SiDi_> jiohdi: any update before ?
[15:14] <jiohdi> I rebooted to gnome still no network.... but gnome failsafe had network
[15:14] <jiohdi> sidi, not recently
[15:14] <DDT> SiDi_ as I said, I just installed Xubuntu. I dont know where is what - just learning now.
[15:15] <SiDi_> jiohdi: do you mean network applet ?
[15:15] <SiDi_> DDT: applications -> internet -> Xchat for IRC ;)
[15:15] <jiohdi> the network icon says disabled
[15:15] <DDT> Now I am on windows machine :)
[15:15] <jiohdi> when I open it, I dont find any way to enable
[15:15] <SiDi_> Or Applications -> internet -> pidgin (pidgin is for MSN/AIM/IRC/Jabber, etc)
[15:15] <DDT> thx SiDi_
[15:16] <SiDi_> jiohdi: does 'ps aux | grep -i network' return anything ?
[15:16] <jiohdi> or Konversation, which I like for IRC
[15:17] <jiohdi> I cannot check for a bit, in another room at work
[15:17] <DDT> jiohdi - first check if cable is connected. Look if lan card is working - it should be some green or red light.
[15:17] <DDT> jiohdi - at the back of computer of course.
[15:18] <DDT> ok, I must go.
[15:18] <DDT> thx for help SiDi_
[15:18] <DDT> bye :)
[15:21] <jiohdi> gnomefail safe had internet just fine
[15:21] <jiohdi> so that is not the problem
[15:21] <jiohdi> unless gnomes work by magic :)
[15:26] <jiohdi> no idea?
[15:32] <SiDi_> Not really :/
[15:32] <SiDi_> i use neither gnome nor network-manager
[15:32] <SiDi_> but i'd say something broke somewhere, if you have nm and xfce4-panel doing weird things at the same time
[15:38] <jiohdi> Brb, I will reboot and try a few things
[15:56] <jiohdi> the easiest way to fix seems to be just to make a new account
[16:03] <jiohdi> anyone still here?
[16:51] <karlzt> ==
[16:55] <jiohdi> is there a file that contains all the settings for panels like the icons on them etc?
[16:56] <jiohdi> I want to copy settings from one acct to another
[16:56] <jiohdi> is that possible?
[16:56] <SiDi> jiohdi: its possible
[16:56] <jiohdi> and...
[16:56] <SiDi> check the <yourhome>/.config/xfce4 folder
[16:57] <SiDi> there is the xfconf/ folder containing most of your XFCE settings, and there also is a folder for the panels' configuration and enabled plugins
[17:15] <Besogon> Hello. I did something with xfce4-panel in xfce4-terminal. And now xfce4-terminal starts up when I turn on xfce session. What's happend?
[17:18] <Besogon> Do no one know?
[17:25] <TheSheep> Besogon: you probably saved the teminal with session on logout
[17:25] <TheSheep> Besogon: remove the files in ~/.cache/session to clean that
[17:27] <Besogon> TheSheep, thanks
[17:29] <Besogon> TheSheep, I had thought about it but I didn't know how I can clean termnal story.
[18:40] <randomnick> hey there everyone
[18:40] <randomnick> I was linjked to this channel from here
[18:40] <randomnick> http://open.knome.fi/?p=103
[18:41] <randomnick> I think taht you guys should not just ASK for more help
[18:41] <randomnick> make a good product and people will flock to it
[18:41] <randomnick> ilke #ubuntu
[18:41] <randomnick> #ubuntu is the most popular channel on one of the most popualar networks
[18:43] <randomnick> this channel is unpopular because this distribution is unpopular
[18:44] <Sysi> ubuntu and xubuntu are same, xfce vs. gnnome is only difference
[18:44] <randomnick> no
[18:44] <randomnick> not true
[18:44] <randomnick> if they are all the same
[18:44] <Sysi> it is
[18:44] <randomnick> dude
[18:44] <randomnick> I've been running ubuntu since freshman year in high school
[18:44] <randomnick> I understand what you mean
[18:44] <Sysi> i think it's stupid to impress they different
[18:44] <randomnick> technically
[18:44] <randomnick> they shaer the same repos
[18:44] <randomnick> yes
[18:44] <randomnick> but that's not true
[18:45] <Sysi> anu other distro don'tdo that
[18:45] <randomnick> the ARE different products
[18:45] <randomnick> same distribution
[18:45] <randomnick> different branding, identity, purpose
[18:45] <randomnick> etc.
[18:45] <Sysi> but you can for exaple make ubuntu to xubuntu very easilu
[18:45] <Sysi> and same time it's still ubuntu :)
[18:45] <Sysi> it can be kubuntu too
[18:46] <randomnick> BUT
[18:46] <randomnick> kubuntu has kde going for it
[18:46] <randomnick> ubuntu has being the most tightly integrated and kick ass well developed smooth distro going for it
[18:46] <randomnick> and xubuntu
[18:46] <randomnick> xubuntu is just a shittier versino of ubuntu
[18:46] <randomnick> seriously
[18:46] <Sysi> i prefer xubu
[18:46] <randomnick> xubuntu needs vision
[18:46] <randomnick> it needs to be slimmed down
[18:46] <randomnick> faster
[18:47] <randomnick> crunchbang #! is popular
[18:47] <Sysi> i like xfce more that gnome
[18:47] <randomnick> because it's filling in the spots that xubuntu claims to offer
[18:47] <Sysi> fastness is not issue
[18:47] <randomnick> it runs on older hardware
[18:47] <randomnick> xfce runs like shit on older hardware
[18:47] <randomnick> Sysi: fastness is an issue
[18:47] <randomnick> go read digg!
[18:47] <randomnick> or slashdot!
[18:47] <Sysi> not for me
[18:47] <randomnick> search for xubu
[18:47] <randomnick> Sysi: read the popular opinion!
[18:47] <randomnick> xubuntu is unpopular
[18:47] <randomnick> it's slow
[18:47] <randomnick> it's shitty!
[18:48] <randomnick> xfce isn't a good enough reason
[18:48] <Sysi> xubuntu is ubuntu eith xfce
[18:48] <randomnick> people come to xubuntu because it's a faster lighter version of ubuntu
[18:48] <Sysi> *with
[18:48] <randomnick> even though it's just as slow and bloated
[18:48] <Sysi> it is
[18:48] <Sysi> a bit
[18:48] <Sysi> gnome don't work with 256 ram
[18:48] <Sysi> xfce does
[18:50] <Sysi> i still think marketing xubu and ubu and kubu as different is stupid, any other distro don't do it
[19:04] <sybariten> hey
[19:04] <sybariten> anyone know the first step to getting a decent sources.list ?
[19:05] <sybariten> running a live distro
[19:05] <jarnos> Sysi: they have different set of default applications
[19:05] <sybariten> apt keeps complaining
[19:05] <sybariten> cant install pretty much anything
[19:05] <sybariten> do i need to know if im on gutsy, etc ?
[19:06] <sybariten> feisty gutsy hardy etc
[19:07] <SuperUser|David> hello, SiDi, are you there?
[20:27] <nicklas_> are there any swedish xubuntu channel?
[20:31] <SiDi> nicklas_: there is a swedish ubuntu channel
[20:32] <nicklas_> SiDi: i know :-)
[20:32] <SiDi> that can also be used for xubuntu :) not even the biggest locos have a xubuntu local channel :/
[20:33] <_Pete_> local shop for local people :)
[20:58] <SuperUser|David> how do i auto-identify?
[21:10] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: hey
[21:10] <SiDi> So what was the solution ?
[21:11] <SiDi> (Applications -> System -> Login window should be the place where you can enable auto-login)
[21:14] <SuperUser|David> SiDi, hey, with auto login i meant on irc
[21:14] <SuperUser|David> SiDi, and the other problem was with xfce you need simple-cssm
[21:23] <plazmacrow> is there any way to force the use of a specific mode line while using kernel mode settings?
[21:24] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: so my theory was probably right ? What i find suspicious is that ccsm doesnt depend on gconf, so it should use files for settings & not gconf
[21:26] <SuperUser|David> SiDi, one other problem was that i had previously started ccsm with a sudo
[21:28] <SuperUser|David> SiDi, that is supposed to be bad, i was told.
[21:29] <SuperUser|David> SiDi, and with simple-ccsm you can start a new profile, with which you can then configure the other ccsm
[21:38] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: i see
[21:38] <SiDi> if you start it with sudo, it will execute it with your own home folder and settings, but as the root account
[21:39] <SiDi> so if you run an app with sudo, especially on first time, the risk is that the settings files are created with the root account
[21:39] <SiDi> and thus, belong to root instead of you
[21:39] <SiDi> and if a file belongs to someone else than you you're very likely to not be able to write changes to it :)
[21:40] <SuperUser|David> yep, know that now.
[21:40] <SuperUser|David> well, that was my first problem.
[21:40] <SuperUser|David> but before i used sudo, the problem was already there.
[21:41] <SuperUser|David> so in order to not have the problem at all you simply need to install simple-ccsm and then set the profile to "advanced"
[21:41] <SiDi> there must have been something wrong with your .compiz folder from the install :/
[21:42] <SuperUser|David> they even said i didnt have compiz running in the first place. but i was sure i did, cause i had some of the effects
[21:42] <SuperUser|David> well, it's been solved now
[21:46] <SuperUser|David> ok, i'm off now, speak soon
[22:56] <sybariten> lol@SiDi
[22:56] <sybariten> @2137
[23:04] <genii> xenoterracide__: sudo ifconfig <eth0/whatever> up
[23:04] <genii> Wrong channel, sorry
[23:41] <sybariten> ive installed xubuntu for eee on a USB stick, but i think its too old (gutsy) to be in the repositories.... somehow.
[23:42] <sybariten> Anyone know if theres a newver live ubuntu/xubuntu that works with eee?
[23:53] <durt> sybariten, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR


[01:42] <gamester> Will Unity 8 support Wayland programs?
[10:30] <gamester> Will Unity 8 support Wayland programs?


 I appreciate the generous offer though.
[01:52] <crimsun> nixternal: closer to just litres of water and a couple cups of coffee
[09:50] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3703 /trunk/validate.sh: another one for irc bot
[09:50] <bhuvan> wow it works!
[09:52] <mdke> nice job bhuvan
[09:52] <mdke> that's really cool
[09:52] <bhuvan> :)
[09:53] <bhuvan> only today i received semi-automated reply from micah
[09:53] <mdke> yeah, I got that too
[09:53] <mdke> I just forwarded it to you :)
[09:53] <mdke> nice
[09:53] <bhuvan> ok
[09:54] <bhuvan> they have an UI where we can forward these commit alerts to any channel: http://cia.navi.cx/account/
[09:56] <mdke> yeah
[10:22] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3704 generic/serverguide/C/ (8 files):
[10:22] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: * Delete package management section from server guide.
[10:22] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: * Include windows networking section in server guide.
[10:22] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: * Include the template for new sections listed in the specification.
[10:39] <bhuvan> mdke: i'd like to include a new status target in ubuntu/Makefile. right now it may include a target for server guide. shall i go ahead with the commit?
[10:45] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3705 generic/serverguide/C/ (6 files): correct the status of all chapters
[11:44] <xipietotec> is this also the channel for ubuntuguide.org?
[11:44] <popey> isn't ubuntuguide.org an unofficial guide?
[11:45] <xipietotec> is it? damn
[11:48] <xipietotec> okay, it might be a good idea to add something like this to the wiki then http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/EnableMultimediaKeys
[12:15] <popey> in gnome that exists already
[12:16] <popey> well, some of it
[12:34] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3706 generic/serverguide/C/ (package-management.xml serverguide.xml):
[12:34] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: As suggested by mdke restore package management in the stand-alone
[12:34] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: version of server guide.
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80390 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Firefox still reports Edgy" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80390
[03:31] <jsgotangco> heh come one, give us some slack on documentation, edgy is still current and we only got herd 2 hehehe
[03:37] <jsgotangco> well we had some real UI changes
[07:29] <mdke> popey: we're overflowing with logos ;)
[07:31] <somerville32> oh yeah?
[07:35] <popey> going to make a logo page
[07:35] <popey> so people can just upload them to that and others can comment
[07:35] <popey> sound good?
[07:36] <popey> and in english?
[07:36] <mdke> popey: why do we need a logo?
[07:37] <popey> gives people a way to feel like they are contributing :)
[07:37] <mdke> erm. that's not a reason
[07:37] <nixternal> hehe
[07:37] <popey> well, there is a logo on the videos at the moment
[07:37] <popey> but its the ubuntu-uk one
[07:37] <nixternal> mdke: i think it does need a logo truthfully
[07:37] <popey> we could replace that, but with what?
[07:37] <nixternal> the Ubuntu logo :)
[07:38] <popey> meh
[07:38] <popey> :)
[07:38] <nixternal> hehe
[07:38] <popey> fair point
[07:38] <mdke> the whole point of implementing the Ubuntu style for the website was to keep the style of the site similar to the other Ubuntu websites
[07:38] <nixternal> im sittin' in the computer lab at school bored out of my mind
[07:38] <mdke> I don't understand why a separate logo is required, and to be honest I think it is a bad idea
[07:38] <popey> would you like to say that on-list?
[07:38] <popey> so others dont waste their time?
[07:39] <mdke> well, I don't take the decisions
[07:39] <nixternal> no, let them waste their time, i like seeing what people can do, so when i need some artwork i can use them :)
[07:39] <mdke> was there some request for logos? I don't understand why everyone is producing them
[07:39] <popey> i asked for a replacement slide for front/back of videos
[07:39] <nixternal> mdke: the same reason everyone started creating logos for all of the marketing projects, which I still don't what it is
[07:40] <mdke> nixternal: that's called logoitis
[07:40] <nixternal> hehe
[07:40] <popey> thanks Dr Mdke
[07:40] <mdke> popey: that's totally different though, nothing to do with a logo, surely?
[07:40] <nixternal> you are a lawyer, not a doctor :)
[07:40] <popey> well, as i said, there is a logo on their at the moment
[07:40] <popey> some may have interpreted "new slide" as "replace logo"
[07:41] <mdke> popey: well, do you disagree that we should retain the style of the Ubuntu websites?
[07:41] <popey> brb
[07:41] <popey> baby in arms
[07:42] <popey> too long a discussion for one handed typing
[07:42] <popey> :)
[07:42] <nixternal> popey: that is no excuse :)
[07:42] <popey> :
[07:42] <nixternal> use your toes
[07:42] <nixternal> keyboards are ambidextrous
[08:02] <Burgwork> popey: in general, there is no need for a specific logo for a specific team, unless it is a loco team
[08:03] <popey> ok
[08:03] <Burgwork> especially given you are doing a help thing
[08:03] <Burgwork> which means you are going to have lots of new users, who are likely to be confused by a seperate logo
[08:03] <popey> would it be prudent for me to mail the list stating such?
[08:03] <mdke> I'm happy to do it
[08:03] <Burgwork> probably yes
[08:03] <mdke> but I want to make sure you feel the same way, this isn't something I want to push onto you
[08:03] <Burgwork> creating a logo seems to be one of the first things somebody wants to do
[08:03] <popey> i have to pop out to get diesel and some booze, if it isn't done by the time I get back I will do it
[08:03] <popey> to be honest I dont really care
[08:04] <popey> I just want people to..
[08:04] <popey> a) make screencasts
[08:04] <popey> b) watch screencasts
[08:04] <popey> c) ???
[08:04] <mdke> ok
[08:04] <popey> d) profit!
[08:04] <mdke> (done)
[08:04] <popey> ta
[10:03] <mdke> so, we're having a wiki weekend!
[10:03] <mdke> please read this page and add your inspirational thoughts to get people excited
[10:03] <mdke> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiTeam/WikiWeekend?action=show
[10:04] <mdke> kmandla of the forums is the brains behind it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341385
[10:04] <LaserJock> hmm, cool
[10:04] <LaserJock> can I get them to do the MOTU wiki? ;-)
[10:32] <mdke> seriously though, please improve that wiki page
[11:20] <MagicFab> mdke, I can't seem to find what happened to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiLicensing at last Community Council meeting
[11:21] <mdke> MagicFab: it was approved (see the bottom of the Community Council Agenda)
[11:21] <mdke> I'm happy to say :)
[11:22] <LaserJock> \o/
[11:22] <MagicFab> mdke, missed that... so... no word on the main wiki yet!
[11:23] <mdke> MagicFab: that's right. I will be implementing the documentation wiki ASAP
[11:23] <LaserJock> main wiki will be a beast
[11:23] <LaserJock> there is such a variety of content
[11:23] <mdke> I think so yeah
[11:24] <LaserJock> it's hard to treat is as a scratch board if you have to worry about licensing :/
[11:24] <MagicFab> mdke, linking to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/License I presume, which is very clear.
[11:24] <MagicFab> Excellent news! I was getting questions from possible contributors
[11:24] <MagicFab> And of course at support I needed to know how that could be reused
[11:25] <mdke> MagicFab: reused? you can just "use" it
[11:25] <MagicFab> mdke, I use them more than once :)
[11:25] <mdke> cool
[11:26] <mdke> MagicFab: do you have statistics about what are the most frequent support questions, out of interest? (I'm thinking more of personal users than businesses)
[11:26] <mdke> would be helpful for yelp
[11:27] <MagicFab> mdke, proprietary stuff comes to mind... along with media plugins and xorg
[11:27] <mdke> what sort of xorg?
[11:27] <LaserJock> like how to configure xorg?
[11:27] <MagicFab> proprietary = wifi drivers, graphic drivers, printer/scanner installs
[11:27] <MagicFab> LaserJock, no, like weird font problems
[11:28] <MagicFab> In general we get the most obscure things or the things that have so much docs that it's difficult to sort through all od it
[11:28] <mdke> no official statistics though?
[11:28] <MagicFab> mdke, not yet :) it'll come
[11:28] <mdke> cool
[11:29] <MagicFab> although it would be more interesting to gather stats from ALL marketplace listings offering support. Canonical is just a tiny portion of support for Ubuntu I guess
[11:29] <mdke> yeah, obviously it will have a different focus to free support too
[11:29] <mdke> getting feedback from you guys about documentation and how to improve would be great, and maybe even some contribution :)
[11:29] <MagicFab> web stats for doc.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com should be a good indicator
[11:30] <LaserJock> yeah, I find gathering statistics to be one of the most difficult parts of Linux/FLOSS
[11:30] <LaserJock> but maybe that's because I'm a scientist and like numbers and things like that
[11:30] <MagicFab> mdke, there is an internal "web self-service" portal where solutions are /will be posted for customers. Still unclear if those would be public / contributed back.
[11:31] <mdke> documentation?
[11:31] <mdke> shame on you for not contributing directly
[11:31] <mdke> or do they pay extra for that?
[11:40] <MagicFab> mdke, well, internally documented solutions are so specific to customer's and include private information
[11:41] <mdke> oh, if it's customer specific, obviously that's different
[11:41] <MagicFab> mdke, *I* am pushing for public disclosure, but I also needed to know that there was a precise licence in the official docs.
[11:41] <mdke> ah
[11:41] <MagicFab> My reasoning is, if I solve a customer problem and I improve the official docs as a result, it can't be held secret/restricted
[11:42] <mdke> careful about using the word "official" :)
[11:42] <mdke> it's a wiki, after all
[11:43] <MagicFab> mdke, that's another *huge* problem I think. Canonical will have to produce it's own "official", rubber-stamped, time-snapshotted docs derived from the CC licensed content
[11:43] <MagicFab> that of course is IMVHO :)
[11:47] <mdke> it doesn't have to, but there is nothing to stop it from using community documentation in support responses if it decides that the particular material is accurate. A rubber-stamped, time-snapshotted fork isn't required
[11:50] <mdke> MagicFab: you might be interested in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpWikiQualityAssurance thought
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> FirefoxNewVersion is apparently incorrect re: Dapper backport, according to jdong.  Changing unless someone knows otherwise.
[12:13] <mdke> yes, I heard the same


[21:41] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue 651 up for review and final edits: Attention is invited to the Ubuntu Cloud News section - move and summarize the article ?
[21:52] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Issue 651 up for review and final edits: Attention is invited to the Ubuntu Cloud News section - move and  summarize the article ?
[21:55] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I will try to look in a bit last night i just got back from a 2200 mile trip that I started thrusday morning
[21:58] <krytarik> Bashing-om: You are linking to the ML thread overview on the New Members items - please fix. >_<
[22:01] <krytarik> And regarding the Cloud News section, I believe it's supposed to only include items published from Ubuntu, so yeah that one will have to be moved or dropped.
[22:09] <Bashing-om> krytarik: As we have no source for Maik Adamietz acceptance - I do not know of a fix for the New Members links . Will see what I can come up with to move the Dell Hybrid Client article - else drop it.
[22:22] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Well, 1.) that's one out of three new members, and 2.) while we got a totally botched up mail for Maik in which even the links are broken, I don't think the point that it includes Maik's email address in the subject field poses a particular issue, because it's also all over his wiki page and LP profile, so I figure it's fine..
[22:28] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Ack on the ML - I fix accordingly :D
[22:28] <krytarik> Besides, even if a) that would be an issue, or b) any of the other new members would be missing a proper announcement, what would you gain from just linking to the ML's thread overview, which a) states said email address not only once but thrice, and b) wouldn't contain any missing mails either..
[22:52] <Bashing-om> UWN: ML links corrected - and dropped the Dell Hybrid Client article .


[01:03] <s-fox> Goodbye
[02:49] <philipballew> what would someone recommend to fix a hd partition that wont mount?
[02:50] <escott> philipballew, fsck
[02:50] <Duck_> My Ubuntu 11 desktop icon disappear, then reappear when I mouse over them. Anyone know what the issue is and how to fix it?
[02:59] <holstein> Duck_: just the 'desktop' icon?
[02:59] <escott> holstein, its a problem with his conky config
[03:30] <andrew_46>  /leave
[03:30] <andrew_46> oops
[04:11] <thewrath> hey all
[04:11] <thewrath> has anyone set up snorby with snort?
[05:41] <philipballew> has anyone here seen a way to make a loggin page where you accept terms and agreements before you can join a network. like at coffee shops.
[05:43] <philipballew> figure it wouldnt be hard with ubuntu
[06:00] <semitones> i think it has to do with DNS but I don't know anything about it, sorry :p
[06:01] <bioterror>  semitones captive portal
[06:05] <seidos> proxy server?
[09:59] <truepurple> Would someone please help me associate a icon with a file type?
[15:29] <DiegoTc> hi
[15:29] <DiegoTc> is there a way to know which were the updates I install??
[15:30] <holstein> DiegoTc: i usually check in synaptic
[15:31] <DiegoTc> in which part holstein?
[15:31] <DiegoTc> I don't see a link that says Installed Updates or similar
[15:31] <holstein> actually, to be more accurate... these days, i look *before* the updates go through :)
[15:32] <holstein> in synaptic... file - history
[15:32] <DiegoTc> holstein, and it is possible to remove them?
[15:33] <holstein> like a button that says 'downgrade, or undo the last update' ?
[15:33] <holstein> or remove the history?
[15:33] <DiegoTc> nop
[15:36] <holstein> http://hartmansblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-to-undo-and-update-in-ubuntu-lucid.html might be relavant :)
[15:37] <holstein> ideally, you would maybe go a little slower though, and try and sort out what package is problematic, and why... and try and properly report it
[15:52] <DiegoTc> thanks holstein
[15:52] <DiegoTc> the system is fine, but it gives me problem for building calligra :S
[15:55] <holstein> DiegoTc: i would probably look for a PPA
[15:56] <holstein> i would start researching what this PPA is for https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+ppa-packages
[15:56] <DiegoTc> holstein, yes but there are no packages for ubuntu 10.04
[15:57] <holstein> DiegoTc: theres probably a reason for that then
[15:57] <holstein> maybe something that is conflicting
[15:57] <DiegoTc> holstein, no calligra was until the year 2011 that began
[15:58] <DiegoTc> before it was koffice
[15:58] <DiegoTc> so I can still work with the koffice dependencies and calligra will run
[15:58] <DiegoTc> it was running until today on the morning that I update the system
[16:00] <holstein> DiegoTc: you might just want to give the PPA maintainer a minute to catch up then
[16:00] <holstein> maybe email and mention what updates you did, and the breakage
[16:00] <holstein> that PPA seems quite active
[16:07] <Nano2nd> how do you resize ubuntu's boot partition to install a windows OS?
[16:08] <Abhijit> you dnot need to resize /boot to install windows Nano2nd
[16:08] <Nano2nd> my boot partition is 294gb
[16:08] <Nano2nd> i thinks its my only option
[16:09] <Sidewinder1> Nano2nd, And if you install win, it will kill your GRUB.
[16:09] <Nano2nd> it says boot under flag
[16:09] <Nano2nd> hmm
[16:09] <Nano2nd> I would like to dual boot windows vista with ubuntu
[16:09] <Sidewinder1> Nano2nd, Then you'll have to repair GRUB.
[16:10] <Nano2nd> ok
[16:10] <Nano2nd> how can I do this
[16:12] <Sidewinder1> Nano2nd, Have a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:32] <geirha> So, 1. Boot the Ubuntu CD and use gparted to resize your Ubuntu partition. 2. Install Windows on the freed space. 3. Restore grub.
[16:34] <geirha> Another option is to just install windows in a virtual machine, but if you need to run heavy windows programs or games, you'll want a proper install.
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> geirha, He/she's gone.
[16:37] <geirha> Oh, so much for paying attention :)
[16:40] <Sidewinder1> Been there, done that. :D
[16:50] <yofel> DiegoTc, holstein: what's the problem? (that's my ppa)
[16:51] <yofel> or rather my ppa page
[16:51] <DiegoTc> yofel, I am using ubuntu 10.04 and I am building calligra, so there is no any ppa of calligra for ubuntu 10.04
[16:52] <DiegoTc> it was working fine until today on the morning that I installed some updates, and now I can't run calligra words
[16:52] <yofel> not that I know of, and project neon is only for the latest stable release and the devel releas
[16:52] <yofel> *release
[16:52] <DiegoTc> holstein, was telling me about that ppa
[16:55] <yofel> DiegoTc: if you're building calligra yourself, you might want to ask in #Calligra too, they should know more about what you need to build it
[16:56] <DiegoTc> yofel, yes I am there I am working (supposly) for the KDE Season
[16:56] <DiegoTc> but I have some (many problems buiding it :p )
[16:57] <yofel> heh
[22:16] <tigerplug292> evening :-)
[23:54] <froq> How is everyone doing!!!


[06:18] <czajkowski> Aloha
[06:32] <nigelb> Good Morning :)
[06:32] <nigelb> New Year's Eve \o/
[08:18] <kim0> Hello :)
[11:38] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[11:39] <duanedesign>  all
[11:39] <duanedesign> :P
[12:00] <duanedesign> some of the Mozilla Test Pilot surveys in FF4 are kinda interesting.
[12:10] <duanedesign> In Firefox I have 3691 bookmarks in 533 folders.
[12:11] <czajkowski> lordie!
[12:26] <duanedesign> yeah I think that is a tad excessive.
[12:27] <nisshh> duanedesign, far out, you net addict :)
[12:27] <nisshh> you must have half the internet bookmarked :)
[12:28] <nisshh> duanedesign, i have maybe 35 bookmarks :)
[12:31] <duanedesign> nisshh: when you get that many bookmarks and they are not well organized you end up defeating the point of a bookmark(speed, convenience).
[12:35]  * AlanBell has no bookmarks
[12:37] <duanedesign> :)
[13:05] <nisshh> duanedesign, yeah, lol :)
[13:15] <popey> I too have zero bookmarks
[15:19] <daker> LoL jcastro changed his name to George Castro O.o
[15:19] <jcastro> heh
[15:31] <evilvish> daker: jcastro's name is pronounced "Hor-hey" not 'George' , he hates it when people mis-pronounces it ;)
[15:32] <jcastro> Actually I go by "george"
[15:32] <kim0> Horhey hehe
[15:32] <daker> Khorkhey kim0 ;)
[15:33] <kim0> even more interesting
[15:51] <jcastro> popey: hey
[15:52] <jcastro> popey: we do it the same way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3503/best-way-to-cache-apt-downloads-on-a-lan/3507#3507
[15:54] <czajkowski> mc
[15:55] <czajkowski> jcastro: welcome back
[15:55] <jcastro> popey: can you "affects me" this please: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid-deb-proxy/+bug/545830
[15:55] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 545830 in squid-deb-proxy (Ubuntu) "403 error when using a non-cached repository (affects: 9) (dups: 1) (heat: 45)" [Low,Confirmed]
[15:55] <jcastro> hi czajkowski
[15:56] <czajkowski> jcastro: nice holiday ?
[15:56] <jcastro> I am still not back
[15:56] <jcastro> more like "hobby back"
[15:56] <jcastro> like "things I want to work on but never get time on" back
[15:56] <czajkowski> jcastro: more like you missed us !
[15:57] <jcastro> true dat
[15:57] <czajkowski> jcastro: aye makes sense
[15:57] <czajkowski> jcastro: first married Christmas wasn't it?
[15:57] <jcastro> yeah
[15:57] <czajkowski> nice :)
[16:00] <popey> okay George
[16:00] <popey> I mean Jorge
[16:00] <jcastro> Thank you, ALAN.
[16:00] <jcastro> Allon
[16:00] <jcastro> man that colin guy had a branch there since november
[16:01] <jcastro> I will poke mvo
[16:01] <popey> cool
[16:05] <jcastro> popey: do my instructions make sense? I did it on a clean system so ideally you would have avoided some problem
[16:05] <popey> yeah, it does
[16:05] <jcastro> but I think in general the upstart script for s-q-p needs an overview
[16:06] <czajkowski> jcastro: any plans for tonight ?
[16:06] <jcastro> yeah we are having some friends over
[16:06] <jcastro> I try to avoid NYE
[16:07] <czajkowski> likewise I used to work security for night clubs years ago, great money and go drinking afterwards at a house party
[16:07] <jcastro> heh
[16:07] <jcastro> "let's get drunk and party"
[16:07] <jcastro> that should be every day!
[16:07] <czajkowski> jcastro: it has been for the last 6 nights, I think my liver needs a day off
[16:07] <czajkowski> I'm thinking of a take away and movie!
[16:09] <jcastro> heh
[16:11] <czajkowski> can anyone see any spam sexbots using locoteams on the LD ?
[16:16] <jcastro> nope
[16:16] <jcastro> looks ok
[16:17] <czajkowski> aye same here, just wondered what effie was seeing I wasn't as he tweeted it
[16:18] <jcastro> maybe it scrolled off by now?
[16:20] <czajkowski> i see it now
[16:21] <czajkowski> refreshed the page. identi.ca spam
[16:24] <czajkowski> reported so when one of the LD gets a chance next week they may remove it https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/696037
[16:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696037 in loco-directory "Spam on main page of LD from identi.ca (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[16:25] <daker> czajkowski, yes
[16:26] <czajkowski> daker: hey there, it's not urgent but if those spam links can be removed it'd be great, not sure how easy that will be either.
[16:34] <daker> czajkowski, ok
[19:02] <jono> czajkowski, !!!
[19:03] <czajkowski> jono: ! your dad is rather funny!
[19:03] <jono> czajkowski, indeed :-)
[19:03] <jono> thanks so much for the contribution!
[19:03] <czajkowski> not at all! it's been on my to do list!
[19:04] <jono> czajkowski, you are a legend
[19:05] <jono> this really helps, a lot!
[19:05] <czajkowski> dude I'm going red shrup
[19:20] <jono> :)
[19:21] <czajkowski> jono: all settled into the new place?
[19:30] <jono> czajkowski, yes indeed :-)
[19:30] <jono> all is well here
[19:30] <jono> all good there
[19:30] <jono> ?
[19:30] <jono> you in Ireland?
[19:32] <czajkowski> jono: just got back to the UK today, had a nice break in ireland with the family for christmas
[19:44] <jono> czajkowski, nice :-)
[19:44] <jono> brb
[20:18] <jcastro> happy new year!
[20:29] <czajkowski> annoying in ireland just an hour in the plane from here I can't get the music I wanted from U1 music store :(
[20:29] <czajkowski> jcastro: what timezone are you in or just pre empting it
[20:29] <AlanBell> "just an hour" . . .
[20:29] <jcastro> EST
[20:29] <jcastro> I am preempting
[20:29] <czajkowski> AlanBell: 55 mins on the plane today :D
[20:38] <nisshh> jcastro, you seriously havent hit midnight yet? far out
[20:38] <jcastro> no  it's 3:37pm
[20:38] <nisshh> oh ok
[20:39] <nisshh> wait, any americans here at the moment?
[20:41] <duanedesign> o/
[20:42] <nisshh> duanedesign, you are?
[20:42] <duanedesign> yes
[20:42] <nisshh> duanedesign, here: http://identi.ca/notice/61350242
[20:42] <nisshh> :)
[20:43] <nisshh> its the only thing that australia does before america :)
[20:43] <duanedesign> :)
[20:56] <czajkowski> jono: you in the UK in 2011 ? Aq and I have a brain fart we're going to arrange a session/meet up that is not a techie conference meet up to catch up with friends and drink/eat/chat
[20:58] <nisshh> czajkowski, im sorry, but its a meetup if 3 techies go to it :)
[20:59] <nisshh> fail
[21:00] <nisshh> its a techie meetup if 3 techies go to it...
[21:00] <czajkowski> nisshh: not really. Just tired of meeting my mates always at conferences. We do talk about other things. so making a non techie meet up is the goal!
[21:00] <nisshh> czajkowski, i see :)
[21:00] <czajkowski> Ubuntu uk has an event in March, we're going to see a rugby match
[21:01] <czajkowski> well going to a pub and watching it, just something different to do that is also common to us
[21:02] <jono> czajkowski, yeah, I will be over in April hopefully
[21:02] <jono> czajkowski, I would love the idea of just organizing a "people who we like" meet-up
[21:03] <jono> czajkowski, let's call it "Beer And Fags 2011"
[21:03] <jono> :-)
[21:04] <czajkowski> jono: Aq and I are on it :D
[21:04] <czajkowski> jono: granted he was in the pub when he agreeded to do it, but we both firmed up on it
[21:05] <jono> czajkowski, nice!
[21:05] <czajkowski> twitter in a pub is a good thing don't you know :)
[21:06] <nisshh> twitter in a pub is asking for drunken tweeting :)
[21:06] <czajkowski> yes there have been some entertaining tweets this week from folks
[21:07]  * nisshh doesnt condone the use of twitter
[21:08] <czajkowski> I have had someone tell me my language was not CoC friendly on twitter
[21:08] <czajkowski> there was rugby and beer involved not sure what they expected really
[21:08] <nisshh> heh
[21:09] <nisshh> czajkowski, as a geek, i find identi.ca more suitable for me, no 13 year old girls telling us about how they just love justin beiber :)
[21:10] <czajkowski> I only barely keep an eye on identi/ca any more, it's spam central or else hard core debates that just aren't worth it anymore
[21:12] <nisshh> czajkowski, nah, you just copped the bad side of it, its really great, not much spam now
[21:12] <nisshh> no geeky holy wars either
[21:12] <czajkowski> nisshh: nope beg to differ :) but we'll agree to disagree
[21:13] <nisshh> czajkowski, fair enough :)
[21:18] <AlanBell> < jono> czajkowski, let's call it "Beer And Fags 2011" <- not yet gone American
[21:19] <AlanBell> sounds like a fine plan though
[21:25] <czajkowski> Anyone know what Harmony is about https://lists.canonical.com/mailman/listinfo/harmony
[21:25] <czajkowski> http://identi.ca/conversation/60718925#notice-61358669
[21:31] <duanedesign> czajkowski: harmony is that contributor agreement thing
[21:31] <duanedesign> " intended to assist organisations which use contribution agreements by providing standardised variable templates with clear and concise explanations"
[21:54] <AlanBell> Release Party
[21:54] <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2011plan
[21:54] <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2011plan
[21:54] <AlanBell> fail
[22:38] <czajkowski> Athbhliain faoi Mhaise Daoibh - Happy new year folks
[22:44] <duanedesign> o/
[22:44] <duanedesign> happy new year to all indeed
[22:55] <jcastro> \o/
[22:57] <czajkowski> part of my plan for new year is to post more stuff in Irish