[07:45] <BluesKaj> not working at all now
[07:45] <eross> now to get some sort of opengl working in this vmware - ugghhh
[07:46] <soulrider> genii: im getting my IP automatically now
[07:46] <soulrider> and im still getting horrible pings
[07:46] <soulrider> genii: i can try going to windows on this box and pinging from there
[07:47] <genii> soulrider Soon i will have to leave to go do some chores. But I will return in about an hour after that
[07:48] <soulrider> ok
[07:48] <soulrider> im gonna download arch linux and try on VMWare int he meantime :P
[07:48] <genii> soulrider Have you ever gotten into the web interface of your router to look at it?
[07:49] <soulrider> yes
[07:49] <soulrider> but theres not much to configure
[07:49] <theNOTO> soulrider: haha, i am a bonehead
[07:49] <theNOTO> soulrider: thanks again
[07:49] <soulrider> lol, why theNOTO ?:P
[07:49] <genii> At minimum should be somethibng like either bridged mode or gateway/router mode
[07:50] <theNOTO> soulrider: talking to the bot
[07:51] <soulrider> ahh lol
[07:53] <genii> Your modem (not router) should be set to bridged mode. then the routerdoes the login part. If it needs mtu settings, for dsl connection use 1497. Then have it set for dhcp server on the lan. Then the clients just get set to auto always instead of using some pppoe client software. This is a better layout in may ways. Some isp only allow so many pppoe login for instance on a connection. also...
[07:53] <genii> ...many routers have port forwarding capability so you can selectively run things like a web server on port 80 to an internal lan ip and so on. also a measure of protection from portsniffing programs. they fall dead at the router
[07:55] <genii> OK, have to leave for a bit :) See you all in around an hour
[07:55] <genii> soulrider I'll see you then if yer still around
[07:55] <soulrider> see ya!
[07:55] <foxx> Would anyone be able to point me in teh direction of how to configure *Ubuntu to act as a gateway to another system plugged into it (like the Internet Connection Sharing bits of Windows XP)?
[07:56] <foxx> Would it be just like setting up a gateway/router and designating one of the network interfaces as incoming?
[07:56] <fritsch> foxx: your pc -> internet
[07:56] <soulrider> foxx: i havnt done anything like that in the past. If i had to do it right now id look int he forums
[07:56] <fritsch> foxx: other computer <-> cable to your pc
[07:56] <fritsch> foxx: after that just iptables and MASQUERADING
[07:57] <foxx> fritsch: You wouldn't know where I could find out about how to set up those two with Ubuntu would you?
[07:57] <fritsch> foxx: soulrider is probably right ... there are detailed howtos outside
[07:57] <fritsch> foxx: mmmh ask google *g* would be the same, i would do now
[07:57] <foxx> Thank you
[07:57] <foxx> Oh, how's Wireless support in Linux these days?
[07:58] <foxx> Haven't tried it in...well, a very long time
[07:58] <spitwise> just dandy
[07:58] <fritsch> foxx: depends on the hardware
[07:58] <fritsch> foxx: but with ndiswrapper many stuff is possible
[07:59] <foxx> To my knowledge the adapter I'm using (Belkin WiFi-G one of some variety) should be supported
[07:59] <foxx> Basically that system is working as the gateway for my X360 to connect to the rest of the network
[08:04] <PupenoR> Is it possible with find to get all files older than a certain date?
[08:05] <Gala> !paste
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:07] <unix_infidel> PupenoR: sure.
[08:07] <unix_infidel> the man pages outline it very well.
[08:07] <PupenoR> unix_infidel: I've read the man page and I can't figure it out. Can you help me?
[08:08] <PupenoR> oh, nevermind.
[08:08] <unix_infidel> :)
[08:09] <jott_> PupenoR: read the "TESTS" section.. namely "+n -n n" and atime/ctime/mtime
[08:09] <unix_infidel> even on windows i use the find binary.
[08:10] <hammer2> how ya manage respoatories
[08:10] <delusions> hi, i'm trying to setup a server for network booting, i found that a file located in ubuntu/install/netboot/pxelinux.0 needed for ubuntu, i cant find that file in kubuntu disc, what do i need to boot from kubunut
[08:10] <delusions> kubuntu*
[08:10] <hammer2> muilty verse?
[08:10] <just-this-time> !alternative
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <just-this-time> !alternatives
[08:10] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[08:11] <hammer2> !muiltyverse
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about muiltyverse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <hammer2> !muilty verse
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about muilty verse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <|Soul^shadow|> WTF
[08:11] <hammer2> ya wtf
[08:11] <|Soul^shadow|> stupid nickserv
[08:11] <n1x0r> !multiverse
[08:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:11] <hammer2> ty
[08:12] <n1x0r> np
[08:12] <eross> how do i install a .deb package?
[08:12] <delusions> dpkg -i package
[08:13] <|Soul^shadow|> How wouldI install Samba I d/l'd a new version I think I got repository, How do I install it
[08:13] <eross> ty
[08:16] <mray> hi i can't properly boot into my KDE anymore after an "apt-get install gnome-core" - any help is welcome!
[08:17] <|Soul^shadow|> dont use gnome it sucks
[08:17] <PupenoR> |Soul^shadow|: aptitude install samba, otherwise read the samba documentation (README, INSTALL) and be careful.
[08:17] <mray> i know!
[08:17] <fritsch> mray: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[08:17] <|Soul^shadow|> u cant run gnome & kde it causes errors & your pc to blow up :P
[08:17] <fritsch> mray: this reconfigures your login manager ...
[08:17] <mray> fritsch, sounds promising!
[08:18] <fritsch> mray: have a try
[08:18] <delusions> can someone tell me if theres netboot available in kubuntu disc 6.06
[08:18] <|Soul^shadow|> using aptitude but I d/led a new version & trying to add its repository
[08:18] <mray> i'll try that!!
[08:18] <fritsch> mray: after having done: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:18] <hammer2> anyine here use amsn?
[08:19] <hammer2> anyone use amsn here?im wondering how ya go about getting the updated version
[08:20] <hammer2> cant get it with apt when amsn is installed says update available
[08:21] <Tm_T> !away
[08:21] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[08:22] <|Soul^shadow|> great my reposotory effed up
[08:23] <Tm_T> crazy_penguin: Black5un|away: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:23] <anyu> hy all
[08:23] <Tm_T> anyu: Hi.
[08:23] <anyu> how can i get kde 3.5.6 on dapper?
[08:23] <|Soul^shadow|> how do I fix my apt-get?
[08:23] <Tm_T> anyu: kubuntu.org helps.
[08:23] <anyu> there is only for edgy
[08:23] <Tm_T> |Soul^shadow|: Depends how it's broken.
[08:24] <|Soul^shadow|> invalid reposotory error
[08:24] <Tm_T> anyu: Ah, Dapper, only way to get it is by compiling yourself.
[08:24] <|Soul^shadow|> tried manualy installing depository
[08:24] <anyu> why if dapper is long time supported?
[08:24] <anyu> or that means other?
[08:24] <Tm_T> |Soul^shadow|: Be more spesific.
[08:25] <|Soul^shadow|> Not found /home/soul-shadow/samba/samba-3.0.24/REVISED error line 1_1
[08:25] <|Soul^shadow|> invalid repository what else can I say
[08:25] <mray> fritsch: strange! suddenly i could login again (i couldn't even after several reboots!)
[08:25] <Tm_T> anyu: Dapper is meant to keep very stable, that means it can't contain all newest stuff. (or would need thousands of testers and coders I think)
[08:25] <Tm_T> |Soul^shadow|: Then fix that line, I can't read your sources.list ;(
[08:26] <tish> WQooooool
[08:26] <fritsch> mray: so it is fixed?
[08:26] <Tm_T> |Soul^shadow|: Use pastebin for example, I'll try to check it then.
[08:26] <tish> Hola
[08:26] <|Soul^shadow|> where is sources.list located?
[08:26] <anyu> Tm_T: okay, thanx...:/
[08:26] <|Soul^shadow|> what command to clean apt-get
[08:26] <Tm_T> anyu: Np.
[08:26] <slyfox> Is it possible to make messages in Kmail like a Conversation on Gmail or a thread or somehow group same topic messages together ?
[08:27] <mray> fritsch: i tried an "apt-get remove gnome-core" but how can i be sure that all associated gnome packages are really removed?
[08:27] <|Soul^shadow|> got it need to open as rot :P
[08:27] <mray> fritsch: i still got the GNOME option in my bootmanager
[08:27] <|Soul^shadow|> root*
[08:28] <rd__> Hiya. I've apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop on a dapper server. As it was freezing when I wanted to /etc/init.d/kdm stop, I've uninstalled it, however I still have the Kubuntu splash screen when booting (where it says "mounting root filesystem... ok" and so on...) How could I get rid of it ? :)
[08:28] <fritsch> mray: not so easy
[08:28] <|Soul^shadow|> try the comand ./kill Gnome DIE DIE DIE :P
[08:28] <fritsch> mray: dpkg -l |grep gnome
[08:28] <fritsch> mray: this gives you a list of installed gnome files
[08:28] <just-this-time> internet installing takes a lot even on broadband
[08:28] <rd__> I'd like the regular boot sequence back
[08:29] <fritsch> mray: be careful do not uninstall packages you need
[08:29] <just-this-time> we should copy our local mirror on every new release
[08:29] <just-this-time> is there !dvds??
[08:29] <just-this-time> !dvds
[08:29] <ScarFreewill1> is there a whats new for feisty?
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <ScarFreewill1> !dvd
[08:29] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:29] <just-this-time> !mirror
[08:29] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[08:30] <tish> algien habla espaol
[08:30] <mray> fritsch: a hard task. is it common that gnome packages are used in kubuntu?
[08:30] <just-this-time> come again ubotu
[08:30] <just-this-time> !mirror | just-this-time
[08:30] <fritsch> mray: some libs, yes or some programms, gtk libs ...
[08:31] <ScarFreewill1> !whatsnew
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whatsnew - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <|Soul^shadow|> I try not to use Gnome& kubuntu causes chaos & you have little gnomes runing around your pc casuing havoc
[08:31] <just-this-time> kounoupi #ubuntu-gr too
[08:31] <just-this-time> !gr
[08:31] <dwidmann> ScarFreewill1: one sec while I dig it up
[08:31] <|Soul^shadow|> :P
[08:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:31] <ScarFreewill1> dwidmann: k
[08:32] <mray> fritsch could you have a quick look at the list of packages and tell me if that is "common" ?
[08:32] <eross> i'm running edgy on vmware, but it can't see my 6150LE nvidia card
[08:32] <eross> is there something I need to do
[08:32] <fritsch> mray: nope ;-)
[08:32] <eross> I tried running the envy script and it says nvidia card not found
[08:32] <fritsch> mray: have to go, sorry
[08:32] <mray> about 38 packages?
[08:33] <mray> is that normal?
[08:33] <mray> fritsch: thank you anyway - you were a great help!
[08:33] <|Soul^shadow|> #1 reason I hate gnome, anyone see that stupid travolocity commertial with that roaming gnome??  Drunk while intoxicated :)
[08:34] <dwidmann> eross: when using vmware, the virtual machines don't get direct access to the  hardware
[08:35] <eross> dern
[08:35] <mray> does anybody know how many gnome files a "rather common" kubuntu install uses?
[08:35] <xenol> !backup
[08:35] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:36] <|Soul^shadow|> la la samba rukes la la XP blows
[08:36] <|Soul^shadow|> rules*
[08:36] <dwidmann> Basically, what Linux is seeing is basically an imaginary video device that Vmware lets it see eross
[08:36] <ScarFreewill1> i'm using edgy atm but i don't know how to get fps on glxgears and there is no --help parameter
[08:36] <dwidmann> glxgears -printfps I think
[08:36] <|Soul^shadow|> like my imagonary gnomes runing acros my screen?? P
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> ScarFreewill1: run strings `which glxgears`
[08:37] <tish> Hola algien habla espaol ???
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> ScarFreewill1: then you will find what your looking for (its something like -iacknowledgethistoolsisnotabenchmark)
[08:37] <|Soul^shadow|> no english here
[08:37] <tish> dios
[08:37] <tish> xD
[08:37] <|Soul^shadow|> !kubuntu-el
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-el - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <eross> ah ok
[08:38] <|Soul^shadow|> damn wrong one
[08:38] <dwidmann> -printfps should work too, doesn't take nearly as long to type either
[08:38] <ScarFreewill1> dwidmann: it does thx
[08:39] <|Soul^shadow|> whats the bot command for spanish kubuntu chan :P
[08:39] <tsdgeos> !es
[08:39] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:39] <jott_> dwidmann: but the result is literally the same :p
[08:39] <|Soul^shadow|> thx
[08:39] <|Soul^shadow|> I was cose I typed el :P
[08:39] <|Soul^shadow|> close*
[08:39] <tsdgeos> "espaol"
[08:39] <dwidmann> Yes, but i can never remember the exact phrase for the "I acknowledge this tool is not a benchmark" jott_
[08:40] <changeme> Hello
[08:40] <tish> tsdgeos  que passa nen
[08:40] <dwidmann> hi changeme
[08:40] <jott> dwidmann: with literally i mean "glxgears is not a benchmark" ;)
[08:40] <|Soul^shadow|> :)
[08:41] <|Soul^shadow|> I am NOT changing you :P
[08:41] <dwidmann> jott: of course it isn't.
[08:41] <dwidmann> |Soul^shadow|: too late, s/he/it left
[08:42] <|Soul^shadow|> :(
[08:42] <dwidmann> If it's of any comfort the frist thing I thought when i saw that nick was diapers too though
[08:42] <|Soul^shadow|> installing ll my crap for sharing this BETTER work now :p
[08:42] <just-this-time> w32codecs not in repos?
[08:43] <|Soul^shadow|> lol
[08:43] <|Soul^shadow|> doesnt w32 usualy stand for windows 32bit?
[08:43] <dwidmann> It does
[08:44] <dwidmann> !mulitverse | just-this-time
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mulitverse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <|Soul^shadow|> dude u want channel Microshaft or Winblows :P
[08:44] <dwidmann> !multiverse | just-this-time
[08:44] <ubotu> just-this-time: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:44] <tsdgeos> |Soul^shadow|: w32codecs is a package of non-free? windows 32 codecs that mplayer can use to play some multimedia files
[08:44] <just-this-time> chill pls
[08:45] <|Soul^shadow|> the irc server is irc.billgates.sux just-in-time :p
[08:45] <dwidmann> !microsoft
[08:45] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute.  Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:49] <dwidmann> |Soul^shadow|: go on youtube or something and look for steve ballmer videos. You'll see why he scares me.
[08:50] <|Soul^shadow|> heh I had actual conversations about a plausable way to build a light sabre :P
[08:50] <GioS^_^> !dvd
[08:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:50] <|Soul^shadow|> & these ppl are like me & we came up with formulas & types of materials to use to make it work :P
[08:51] <|Soul^shadow|> .!sanity check
[08:51] <dwidmann> http://youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc
[08:51] <|Soul^shadow|> tell me dwi How do you measure sanity & insanity?
[08:52] <|Soul^shadow|> .!sanity check failed
[08:52] <dwidmann> Very, very carefully
[08:53] <|Soul^shadow|> there alot of ppl that are locked up they call insane but there actually genous & scare are goverment...
[08:53] <tish> agien espaol??
[08:53] <|Soul^shadow|> genious*
[08:53] <tish> algien espaol
[08:53] <tsdgeos> !e
[08:53] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[08:53] <tsdgeos> !es
[08:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:53] <tsdgeos> tish: ^^^^^^^^
[08:53] <|Soul^shadow|> !kubuntu-es
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <just-this-time> !alien
[08:55] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:55] <just-this-time> is there a GUI based alien for RPM ?
[08:55] <|Soul^shadow|> dwi u would be amased on how many ppl hide there smarts because are goverment would use them for evil ways :(
[08:55] <|Soul^shadow|> yes just
[08:55] <just-this-time> alien dangerous ?
[08:55] <ubuntu> hiya
[08:55] <ubuntu> guys can you help me ?
[08:56] <|Soul^shadow|> yeah alien will try to probe   you in places you didnt know u had
[08:56] <xenol> write your problem
[08:56] <ubuntu> ok
[08:56] <just-this-time> ubuntu change you r/nick
[08:56] <ubuntu> u want to instal kuuntu
[08:56] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[08:56] <|Soul^shadow|> change ur nick
[08:56] <ubuntu> and i want to know if i descide i want to instal windows later will it still install?
[08:57] <just-this-time> ubuntu -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -- > enjoy !
[08:57] <just-this-time> ubuntu need to keep part of disk ( partition for that ) or squeeze with liveCD GPARTED
[08:57] <|Soul^shadow|> linux & ubuntu dont get along
[08:58] <|Soul^shadow|> gnome = evil
[08:58] <ubuntu> i dont unserstand lol
[08:58] <|Soul^shadow|> just redo os with kubuntu
[08:58] <|Soul^shadow|> linux  & windows wont work
[08:58] <|Soul^shadow|> I tried
[08:58] <ubuntu> hehe i had open suse working with windows
[08:58] <|Soul^shadow|> download kubuntu iso & make a cd
[08:59] <ubuntu> but it wouldnt pick up my wifi card
[08:59] <xenol> guys i got a problem
[08:59] <xenol> i just backuped my root
[08:59] <xenol> and the end file is big like 24.5 mb
[08:59] <xenol> is it possible?
[09:00] <|Soul^shadow|> that all 24.5 meg
[09:00] <|Soul^shadow|> whats the prob?
[09:00] <|Soul^shadow|> 24 1/2 meg nohing
[09:01] <|Soul^shadow|> nothing*
[09:01] <xenol> well the root is big like 3 gb and final backup.tgz is like 24.5 mb big
[09:01] <|Soul^shadow|> xenol you running on a 100 meg HD :P
[09:01] <ubuntu> whats better guys ? kubuntu or open suse ?
[09:01] <xenol> no :D
[09:01] <|Soul^shadow|> kubuntu
[09:01] <ubuntu> why is that ?
[09:01] <|Soul^shadow|> 24.5 mb small
[09:01] <xenol> ubuntu: i will ask u
[09:02] <dwidmann> ubuntu: that's subjective
[09:02] <xenol> wat is easier download rpm and and u dont know if that u downloaded is good or just type in terminal sudo apt-get install app name ?
[09:02] <ubuntu> sorry i just needed convincing , i used open suse and really like it but i just couldnt get my wifi card working , i like kubuntu very much to
[09:02] <|Soul^shadow|> ubuntu suse asI know is problamatic like a mac however kubuntu with all things properly installed runs liek a god
[09:02] <dwidmann> Go to this room and ask that, then go to #opensuse and ask that. Compare the results. I think you'll find these rooms to be somewhat biased
[09:02] <ubuntu> cant deside
[09:03] <just-this-time> debian package from command line ?
[09:03] <just-this-time> deside => decide ;-)
[09:03] <|Soul^shadow|> I hear suse too much like old mac :P
[09:03] <ubuntu> hehe thanks guys!
[09:03] <xenol> just-this-time:  ur right apt-get owns rpm :)
[09:03] <ubuntu> heya
[09:04] <ubuntu> wait what room am in in ? lol
[09:04] <|Soul^shadow|> aahahhhhh!
[09:04] <xenol> just-this-time:  is it possible that 3gb partiotions backup tgz is like 24.5 mb ? :D
[09:04] <xenol> big
[09:05] <|Soul^shadow|> u backup just /root or al of / ??
[09:06] <xenol> i backup whole / without /dev /home /lost+found /proc /sys
[09:06] <slyfox> Does anyone know how to remote control windows machine form Kubuntu ?
[09:07] <|Soul^shadow|> thats easy sly
[09:07] <|Soul^shadow|> u get access to a windows $c u can control it all
[09:07] <xenol> hm ?
[09:07] <just-this-time> nope xenol why asking that 3 gb stuff?
[09:07] <|Soul^shadow|> you can use cain & able for linux & have control fast
[09:08] <xenol> just-this-time:  i am asking cause i think that 24.5 mb gzipped tar made from 3gb is kinda weird dont u think?
[09:08] <xenol> well too small
[09:09] <xenol> naa it is 1gb now
[09:09] <slyfox> It really means nothing to me "u get access to a windows $c u can control it all" I am just a Linux noob tryon to conenct to my Windows box remotely
[09:09] <PupenoR> is the partition 3gb of size or 3gb of data?
[09:09] <xenol> 3gb of data
[09:09] <|Soul^shadow|> ooohh u gotta confgure samba
[09:09] <xenol> nvm stupid question it displays correct size now
[09:10] <|Soul^shadow|> then u can access winblows from linux not windows to linux yet, I am tryig to fix that now
[09:10] <just-this-time> xenol it took most prolly only home dir
[09:10] <just-this-time> chk it
[09:10] <xenol> i excluded home
[09:10] <PupenoR> xenol: then I would find it strange, really strange... unless there's a 3gb file of zeros and only zeros.
[09:10] <|Soul^shadow|> !stupid-meter xenol
[09:10] <|Soul^shadow|> :P
[09:10] <xenol> PupenoR:  only fresh install with updates
[09:10] <xenol> |Soul^shadow|:  :/
[09:10] <Satyr> anyone know much about raid?
[09:11] <|Soul^shadow|> yeah it kills bugs well
[09:11] <dwidmann> Satyr: yeah
[09:11] <dwidmann> not sure about "much", but "enough for me" anyway
[09:11] <Satyr> dwidmann: know how to get grub to work with it?
[09:11] <|Soul^shadow|> set ur raid controler as main
[09:11] <|Soul^shadow|> in bios settings
[09:12] <|Soul^shadow|> most likly its a bios settign thing
[09:12] <bronze> apt-cache search  fslint returns nothing for fslint. Who is responsible for this travesty?   :-)
[09:12] <dwidmann> Which sort of RAID? Hardware, multichannel disk controller + dmraid, or software RAID(mdadm)?
[09:12] <EspenBe> any java-experts here?  I try to install a program depending on java on my Edgy-box, but it fails to install and returns an error message: "Exception in thread main ....."
[09:12] <ubuntu> guys i am told that Kubuntu has trouble with dhcp connection on wifi , but i got told if you update it it fixes this problem , is this true ?
[09:12] <EspenBe> how can I solve this stuff?
[09:13] <|Soul^shadow|> no I dont drik coffe :P
[09:13] <|Soul^shadow|> drink*
[09:13] <xenol> ubuntu:  u have wifi connection?
[09:13] <ubuntu> yeah
[09:13] <dwidmann> EspenBe: which JVM are you using?
[09:13] <ubuntu> but it says connection failed
[09:13] <ubuntu> what jvm ?
[09:13] <ubuntu> i am a newbie lol
[09:13] <dampyr_D> ciao
[09:13] <xenol> java virtualization machine
[09:13] <xenol> !it
[09:13] <Satyr> dwidmann... good question... *thinks* on startup it comes up with nvidia RAID stripe etc...
[09:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:14] <EspenBe> dwidmann: Blackdown (j2re1.4)
[09:14] <ubuntu> ermm i dunno how do i find out ?
[09:14] <xenol> ubuntu: find out what
[09:14] <dwidmann> Satyr ... that would probably be the multichannel disk controller (aka FakeRaid, looks like hardware RAID but it isn't) + dmraid ...
[09:14] <ubuntu> i thought you were asking what jvm i am using ?
[09:14] <ubuntu> ooo i am confused hehe
[09:14] <xenol> ubuntu: i wasnt asking about it
[09:14] <xenol> :)
[09:14] <dwidmann> EspenBe: have you tried other JVMs or does it not work with them either?
[09:15] <xenol> ubuntu: i advise u one thing if u want to try opensuse and kubuntu try both as live cd
[09:15] <bronze> are 'deb' packages compatible with apt-get ?
[09:15] <dwidmann> EspenBe: keeping in mind things tend to be "made to work for" Sun's reference JVM
[09:15] <EspenBe> dwidmann: I tried Sun's version as well, but I got the same result...
[09:15] <xenol> and which u like more install it :)
[09:16] <Satyr> dwidmann: go fake raid! i like it as long as it has 300gb space XD. sadly, the annoying thing is that grub hates it like a hater and won't accept that it exists :(
[09:16] <EspenBe> dwidmann: I can try to uninstall the Blackdown-stuff, and then install the Sun-version
[09:16] <dwidmann> EspenBe: and you set the default JVM with update-alternatives, or no?
[09:16] <ubuntu> yeah i have tried open suse
[09:16] <ubuntu> and  i like kubuntu
[09:16] <ubuntu> but
[09:16] <ubuntu> i am worried
[09:16] <EspenBe> dwidmann: eh...how do I do that?
[09:16] <ubuntu> that it wont work with my wifi
[09:16] <dwidmann> Satyr: mind pastebinning your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[09:16] <xenol> hmm did u encounter any problem till now?
[09:16] <|Soul^shadow|> my pc at home ahs raid no probs
[09:16] <xenol> is http working?
[09:17] <ubuntu> no its not working
[09:17] <|Soul^shadow|> just check bios settings 7 make sure it see's the raid Hd as first boot
[09:17] <dwidmann> EspenBe: "sudo update-alternatives --config java" if I remember right
[09:17] <|Soul^shadow|> &*
[09:17] <ubuntu> the wifi manager searches for cionnections
[09:17] <ubuntu> finds my router
[09:17] <ubuntu> i put in my passcode
[09:17] <Satyr> dwidmann: aint gonna happen m afraid, i don't have one lawl. runnin from win, tried to get kubuntu a lil while ago but couldn't solve this problem
[09:17] <ubuntu> and it says @conection failed@
[09:17] <xenol> ubuntu:  well if ur wifi not working then why u r on IRC? =)
[09:17] <ubuntu> ethernet
[09:17] <|Soul^shadow|> try sudo apt-get fuck-bill-gates :P
[09:17] <xenol> ah
 raid on what?
[09:18] <xenol> |Soul^shadow|:  lol
[09:18] <dwidmann> Satyr: ah, that could be a problem, let me dig something up for you
[09:18] <|Soul^shadow|> my pc at home
[09:18] <Satyr> running kubuntu?
[09:18] <julien_> how can i do to go to ubuntu french server???
[09:18] <xenol> ubuntu:  no ideas then
[09:18] <Satyr> dwidmann: thanks :)
[09:18] <dwidmann> !fr
[09:18] <|Soul^shadow|> its a simple sis raid device !fr
[09:18] <julien_> yes
[09:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:18] <|Soul^shadow|> !fr
[09:18] <julien_> thank you
[09:18] <julien_> bye
[09:18] <|Soul^shadow|> np
[09:19] <EspenBe> dwidmann: I was given the option to choose which java I wanted.  Chose the "correct" one and re-run the installer for my program, but it did not have any effect...
[09:19] <ubuntu> aparently kubuntu has trouble with dchp connections
[09:19] <ubuntu> and that ubdating kubuntu fixes this
[09:20] <dwidmann> I think this is it Satyr: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FakeRaidEdgy
[09:20] <xenol> how can i update from alternate cd 6.10 my dapper plz?
[09:20] <|Soul^shadow|> really I got no prob runing off router myself just plugegd it in & it worked
[09:20] <ubuntu> oo not cable
[09:20] <ubuntu> i have wifi
[09:20] <|Soul^shadow|> dsl
[09:20] <ubuntu> wireless
[09:20] <ubuntu> yeah dsl
[09:20] <dwidmann> ubuntu: are you running 6.06 (dapper) or 6.10(edgy)?
[09:20] <ubuntu> ooo i dont know
[09:20] <|Soul^shadow|> but my home c cable works with livecd no prob
[09:20] <ubuntu> how do i find out ?
[09:21] <|Soul^shadow|> 6.10 edgy dont like dapper
[09:21] <dwidmann> EspenBe: odd, could just be a bug?
[09:21] <ubuntu> hmmm how do i find out ?
[09:21] <Stromberg`> hey Kubuntu 6.10 here - im missing the "deb" command - how can i get it?
[09:21] <|Soul^shadow|> could be ur pc has a brainfart
[09:21] <|Soul^shadow|> dont
[09:21] <dwidmann> ubuntu: "lsb_release -a" will tell you
[09:21] <|Soul^shadow|> deb on kubuntu bad drom what I hear
[09:21] <EspenBe> dwidmann: I found a lot of similar problems in different web-sites, but it seems to be a problem for many people...
[09:22] <Satyr> dwidmann: that's one tasty article lol. thanks a lot :D
[09:22] <Stromberg`> oh ok - how do i add new repositories then?
[09:22] <Stromberg`> just wanted to install that ntfs-3g stuff
[09:22] <|Soul^shadow|> use apt-get update
[09:22] <ubuntu> edgy ?
[09:22] <|Soul^shadow|> in konsole
[09:22] <ubuntu> thats the one
[09:22] <|Soul^shadow|> yes
[09:22] <ubuntu> is that the better one ?
[09:22] <dwidmann> Satyr: this reminds me of sweet, nostalgic memories of when my array corrupted ......
[09:22] <|Soul^shadow|> the only one :P
[09:22] <ubuntu> ooo lol
[09:23] <Stromberg`> apt-get update for adding repos?
[09:23] <ubuntu> well i read on a forum that you just have install updates then it will be ok
[09:23] <|Soul^shadow|> u could install synaptic but I hear it causes issues
[09:23] <ubuntu> oo another thing can i dual bot with windows and kubuntu ?
[09:23] <|Soul^shadow|> nope
[09:23] <dwidmann> ubuntu: the only thing newer than Edgy is Feisty, but it's still in alpha
[09:23] <dwidmann> ubuntu: you can
[09:23] <ubuntu> i cant dual boot :S
[09:23] <ubuntu> i can ?
[09:23] <|Soul^shadow|> neither can I
[09:24] <Stromberg`> i have dual boot here
[09:24] <Satyr> dwidmann: lmao i know perhaps how you felt, when i installed edgy (with the live CD and fakeraid xD) it broke the whole comp, windows too
[09:24] <|Soul^shadow|> 2 Hd's or 1?
[09:24] <Satyr> yeah, dual boots what im tryin tdo
[09:24] <Stromberg`> its just grub so you can ofcourse
[09:24] <Satyr> with 1 hd
[09:24] <ubuntu> 1 hd
[09:24] <|Soul^shadow|> im using 1 HD cant duel off suel partitions
[09:24] <Satyr> yshould be able to lawl
[09:24] <|Soul^shadow|> duel*
[09:24] <Stromberg`> 1 hd here too
[09:24] <ubuntu> but open suse did using grub
[09:24] <ubuntu> i have an external hard drive
[09:24] <ubuntu> could i install it there and duel boot
[09:25] <Stromberg`> yea sure wherever
[09:25] <|Soul^shadow|> well i tried installing wondows after kubuntu but wont give me a boot option
[09:25] <Stromberg`> oh that sucks
[09:25] <dwidmann> ubuntu: I've never tried it with an external, that could be trickier
[09:25] <Stromberg`> well it should work
[09:25] <Stromberg`> but you dont get it automatically
[09:25] <ubuntu> ooo ok then
[09:25] <Stromberg`> you have to configure grub yourself then
[09:26] <|Soul^shadow|> us lilo better then grub?
[09:26] <Stromberg`> its the same
[09:26] <ubuntu> i am worried that when i install kubuntu i cant overwrite is with windows if i dont liek it ?
[09:26] <Stromberg`> not much differences
[09:26] <|Soul^shadow|> used to use lilo on ubunu
[09:26] <DaSkreech> I need to search for a pattern at the start of a word and then put it at the end of the word. Any ideas?
[09:26] <pixelation> gosh it's been too long, I have a folder on my desktop for a pretty simple template, all the .jps and index and everything are just in there... how do I make Nvu realize where all the image files are?
[09:26] <|Soul^shadow|> mua ha ha
[09:27] <xenol> how can i upgrde my kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 using alternate cd?
[09:27] <dwidmann> !tab | |Soul^shadow|
[09:27] <ubotu> |Soul^shadow|: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:27] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[09:27] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:27] <dwidmann> !sed | DaSkreech
[09:27] <|Soul^shadow|> oooh
[09:27] <ubotu> DaSkreech: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:27] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: It's in Multiple files. How do I repipe them?
[09:28] <dwidmann> That's awful, ubotu doesn't want to tell us about sed :(
[09:28] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: not exactly sure.
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Yeah neither am I :)
[09:29] <|Soul^shadow|> ha haah satyr a aol l8mr
[09:29] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: The answer might lie with python, maybe.
[09:29] <xenol> DaSkreech: i have DLed cd so i dont want to DL upgrade from inet
[09:29] <|Soul^shadow|> me points at the aol monkey
[09:29] <Satyr> |Soul^shadow|: howd you know? xD
[09:29] <Stromberg`> |Soul^shadow|: synaptic worked thx
[09:29] <|Soul^shadow|> easy
[09:30] <|Soul^shadow|> irc commands
[09:30] <Satyr> lol
[09:30] <xenol> hmm some1 serious?
[09:30] <|Soul^shadow|> nah
[09:30] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Hmm I guess I could rub up a python script for a one time event :(
[09:31] <DaSkreech>  seems like such a waste if there is a command that can do it
[09:31] <|Soul^shadow|> aol has many open ports it sucks
[09:31] <|Soul^shadow|> aol= asholes online
[09:31] <DaSkreech> xenol: I know that it can be done. I am not sure if you have to do somethign special
[09:31] <DaSkreech> xenol: Oh!! I know
[09:31] <DaSkreech> add the CDrom to your sources :)
[09:32] <xenol> just
[09:32] <|Soul^shadow|> odd
[09:32] <xenol> well how ? :)
[09:32] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: keeping in mind python has nice Regex support
[09:32] <Frederick> folks wich is the packagem for gvim in kubuntu?
[09:32] <xenol> sudo apt-add /cdrom ?
[09:32] <|Soul^shadow|> u should see cdrom as soon as u put in  a cd
[09:32] <|Soul^shadow|> no
[09:32] <|Soul^shadow|> its a dev
[09:32] <|Soul^shadow|> put in a cd it hsould apear on ur desktop
[09:32] <DaSkreech> xenol: apt-cdrom I think
[09:33] <dwidmann> Frederick: apt-cache search vim | sort
[09:33] <mfranca> sexo
[09:34] <mray> Strange things are happening on my Kubuntu: after havin issues with Kubuntu & Gnome i finally can boot into KDE again, but now i just have Firefox 1.5 instead of my manually installed Firefox2.0!!! - can anybody give me  a hint what is going on?
[09:35] <xenol> DaSkreech: this safe way how to upgrade? i mean can smth be made wrong?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> I did it that one once. With Synaptic I'll admit (it was edubuntu) but it worked ok except for some network pacakages which i fixed
[09:35] <raeez> when 7.4 (feisty fawn) comes out... will i have to reformat and install that, or is their a distro upgrade or something?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> That was Hoary to breezy I think
[09:36] <DaSkreech> !upgrade > raeez
[09:36] <xenol> mray: u have dapper?
[09:36] <mray> yep, dapper
[09:36] <raeez> DaSkreech, wow cool
[09:36] <xenol> firefox 2.0 u can run
[09:36] <bronze> mray: 1.5 from 2?  suspect you have possible grunched of your system.  Perhaps time to re-install.
[09:36] <DaSkreech> raeez: Welcome to the awesomeness of Linux and Debian
[09:36] <xenol> but default for that distro is ff 1.5
[09:37] <xenol> raeez: welcome to the world of apt-get :p
[09:37] <mray> i know - but i manually apt-get removed the standard crappy ugly ff 1.5 and downloaded ff2 from mozilla.org
[09:37] <Frederick> dwidmann: didnt find it
[09:37] <bronze> !repositories
[09:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:38] <bronze> good bot!
[09:38] <julien_> how to go to UBUNTU.FR
[09:38] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[09:38] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:38] <julien_> please
[09:38] <DaSkreech> !fr
[09:38] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:38] <julien_> yes
[09:38] <just-this-time> born again with http://del.icio.us/tony_behar
[09:38] <DaSkreech> julien_: Click on the blue letters
[09:38] <julien_> thank you
[09:38] <dwidmann> Frederick: should be vim-gtk
[09:38] <Frederick> dwidmann: oh thanks
[09:39] <dwidmann> julien_:alternatively you can: /join #kubuntu-fr
[09:39] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: gone. too late
[09:39] <dwidmann> Ahah
[09:40] <Frederick> dwidmann: kvim sems unavaliable
[09:41] <dwidmann> Frederick: I know
[09:42] <xenol> DaSkreech:  for ubuntu it says gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"  for kubuntu i will type kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ?
[09:42] <just-this-time> mray in konsole locate firefox
[09:42] <DaSkreech> xenol: Where says what?
[09:42] <DaSkreech> I don't know of a /cdrom
[09:42] <mray> just-this-time: how?
[09:43] <DaSkreech> mray: burn :)
[09:43] <xenol> DaSkreech:  cz ubuntu wiki
[09:43] <xenol> upgrade from dapper to edgy
[09:43] <ubuntu_> someone
[09:43] <ubuntu_> can help me
[09:43] <DaSkreech> !ask
[09:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:43] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[09:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:43] <kkosmo> i have put a new harddisk to my motherboard
[09:43] <kkosmo> ok
[09:43] <raeez> help: I have recently installed beryl: And for a while it was working properly, then i installed superkaramba, restarted, and now i sit with 2 problems: When i press shit-backspace X sort of crashes and i am forced to restart it (very irritating while typing) and 2 when i log into kde I have to wait for a long time before my actual desktop loads (the taskbar loads but the desktop doesnt - it stays white) how can i fix these?
[09:44] <kkosmo> and now when i start the system
[09:44] <kkosmo> i get kernel panic error
[09:44] <xenol> DaSkreech:  so ?
[09:44] <kkosmo> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (9.0)
[09:44] <DaSkreech> xenol: Looking
[09:44] <kkosmo> something like this
[09:44] <xenol> DaSkreech:  brb getting smth to drink :p
[09:44] <DaSkreech> xenol: try it. If it doesn't work I had no idea what it was trying in the first place
[09:45] <dwidmann> kkosmo: maybe it rearranged the devices after you plugged it in, try changing things in grub
[09:45] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: I think your grub is messed up
[09:45] <kkosmo> how i can fix it
[09:45] <dwidmann> kkosmo: when you're at the grub menu, press 'e' (for edit)
[09:45] <kkosmo> i cant get into the system
[09:45] <steven_> what the code to see what wireless card she got
[09:46] <kkosmo> when i turned on the computer
[09:46] <kkosmo> this error
[09:46] <dwidmann> kkosmo, I know, that's why I said to do it at the menu
[09:46] <kkosmo> are coming
[09:46] <xenol> DaSkreech: wait i will paste what does sh says
[09:46] <kkosmo> and what i need
[09:46] <kkosmo> to change
[09:46] <kkosmo> in the grun
[09:46] <kkosmo> ?
[09:46] <dwidmann> You get the grub menu before it tries to load the kernel kkosmo
[09:46] <kkosmo> grub
[09:46] <dwidmann> Well, one sec kkosmo
[09:46] <xenol> !paste
[09:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <kkosmo> ok
[09:47] <xenol> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4620/
[09:47] <dwidmann> The "root" line will read something like "root (hd0,5)", try changing the 0 to a 1
[09:48] <kkosmo> ok
[09:48] <kkosmo> i try thanks
[09:48] <dwidmann> also, in the "kernel" line, there should be a part like "/dev/hda5", try changing that to "/dev/hdb5" or similar
[09:49] <dwidmann> I'm also relieved to have noticed that this problem won't exist anymore in Feisty thanks to the whole UUID thing.
[09:50] <raeez> help: I have recently installed beryl: And for a while it was working properly, then i installed superkaramba, restarted, and now i sit with 2 problems: When i press shit-backspace X sort of crashes and i am forced to restart it (very irritating while typing) and 2 when i log into kde I have to wait for a long time before my actual desktop loads (the taskbar loads but the desktop doesnt - it stays white) how can i fix these?
[09:50] <pixelation> does kscope let you do what you see is what you get?
[09:50] <steven_> what the code to see what wireless card you have??
[09:51] <dwidmann> raeez: the shift+backspace issue is an XGL issue
[09:51] <dwidmann> I forget the solution
[09:51] <dwidmann> steven: lspci?
[09:51] <DaSkreech> xenol: Do you have a /media/cdrom0?
[09:52] <raeez> dwidmann: do you know anything about losing your desktop (it loads up and stays white)
[09:52] <xenol> DaSkreech: ye
[09:52] <dwidmann> raeez: no, haven't heard of that one
[09:52] <DaSkreech> xenol: I think thats the /cdrom it's talking about
[09:52] <DaSkreech> And you do need kdesu
[09:53] <xenol> DaSkreech: if i try to execute script is says gksu command not found :(
[09:54] <xenol> !paste
[09:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:54] <DaSkreech> xenol: replace gksu with kdesu
[09:55] <xenol> DaSkreech: bash: gksu command not found
[09:55] <raeez> !autostart
[09:55] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:55] <raeez> can somebody clarify what ubotu just said now? I dont get the 'make a link' part because  i dont know how to
[09:55] <DaSkreech> xenol: You are running the script?
[09:55] <kkosmo> hi
[09:55] <xenol> DaSkreech:  ye
[09:55] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[09:55] <kkosmo> i change the root
[09:55] <kkosmo> in the grub
[09:55] <kkosmo> but its dont help
[09:55] <DaSkreech> xenol: Edit the script
[09:56] <DaSkreech> xenol: replace gksu with kdesu
[09:56] <xenol> DaSkreech: it is on cd
[09:56] <DaSkreech> A ubuntu cd?
[09:57] <xenol> DaSkreech: ih has to be kubuntu
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Whered you get it?
[09:57] <xenol> wait
[09:58] <DaSkreech> raeez: Alt+F2 -> kdesktop
[09:58] <dwidmann> raeez: ln -s /path/to/file /path/to/where/you/want/the/link
[09:58] <xenol> DaSkreech: i DLed it from kubuntu.com i386 alternate
[09:58] <xenol> DaSkreech: 6.10 ofc
[09:58] <DaSkreech> hmm
[09:59] <juano__> !beryl
[09:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:59] <arphetic> wow,
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> strange it doesn't mention it is a compiz fork
[10:00] <andre__> hey guys
[10:00] <raeez> but people say beryl is better than compiz? or am i just an ignorant fool?
[10:00] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[10:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:00] <andre__> I've got dual monitors and my second monitor can't get a resolution higher than 800x600...  has anyone encountered this before?
[10:01] <raeez> dwidmann: how do you use that command you just gave me (-s ...)
[10:01] <xenol> DaSkreech:  any ideas?
[10:02] <DaSkreech> xenol: not yet I know you can upgrade from the cd
[10:02] <raeez> !aquamarine
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aquamarine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <xenol> DaSkreech: and how if i put cd on sources.list ?
[10:03] <inteliwasp> !sound
[10:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:04] <DaSkreech> just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:04] <raeez> !link
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <DaSkreech> raeez: What are you trying to do?
[10:04] <kkosmo> somone can help me
[10:04] <raeez> DaSkreech: lol, i hate beeing a noob... Im trying to autoload beryl-manager at kde login
[10:05] <DaSkreech> ah
[10:05] <raeez> DaSkreech: any help?
[10:05] <DaSkreech> raeez: #ubuntu-effects is a much more efficent way to sort that out :)
[10:05] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Sup?
[10:05] <firecrotch> raeez: you just need a symlink to beryl-manager in ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:05] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:05] <kkosmo> its dont work
[10:05] <kkosmo> what exectly i need to change
[10:05] <kkosmo> you can tell me
[10:05] <kkosmo> ?
[10:06] <DaSkreech> What doesn't work?
[10:06] <raeez> firecrotch: how do i make a symbolic link, thats what im trying to figure out!
[10:06] <kkosmo> i tell you its show
[10:06] <kkosmo> the kernal panic
[10:06] <kkosmo> agein
[10:06] <xenol> plz how can i add cdrom to sources.list?
[10:06] <kkosmo> what i need to edit
[10:06] <DaSkreech> xenol: man apt-cdrom
[10:06] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: You put in a new hard drive?
[10:06] <raeez> !symlink
[10:06] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:06] <DaSkreech> !grub
[10:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <kkosmo> new hard drive
[10:06] <kkosmo> and new
[10:06] <firecrotch> raeez: ln -s filename linkname
[10:06] <kkosmo> memory card
[10:06] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: did you move the old hard drive?
[10:07] <kkosmo> no
[10:07] <kkosmo> why that error come
[10:07] <kkosmo> are you know
[10:07] <raeez> firecrotch: would linkname in my case be the Autostart folder?
[10:07] <arphetic> Adept wont load anymore :<
[10:07] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: It's trying to find your hard drive and can't find it I think
[10:07] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: do you have a Live CD?
[10:07] <kkosmo> but the linux
[10:07] <kkosmo> i am now on live cd
[10:07] <DaSkreech> arphetic: does it have an error?
[10:07] <kkosmo> but the linux
[10:07] <kkosmo> kernel
[10:07] <kkosmo> is in the old
[10:08] <kkosmo> hard drive
[10:08] <arphetic> nope
[10:08] <arphetic> brb
[10:08] <firecrotch> raeez: ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager
[10:08] <kkosmo> i think its becose the new memory that i put
[10:08] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Do you know the path to the old hard drive?
[10:08] <kkosmo> now becose the drive
[10:08] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: /dev/?
[10:08] <raeez> firecrotch: Thank you SO much..
[10:08] <kkosmo> /dev/hda1
[10:08] <xenol> DaSkreech:  well i type but nothing happens nothing is added
[10:08] <firecrotch> raeez: my pleasuse
[10:08] <kkosmo> yes but in the menu its that what showe
[10:08] <firecrotch> *r
[10:08] <firecrotch> I can't type today
[10:08] <raeez> lol
[10:08] <DaSkreech> xenol: did you read the man page?
[10:08] <kkosmo> i very very very eed help
[10:09] <xenol> DaSkreech: :)
[10:09] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: That's ok. can you paste the contents of /boot/grub/grub.conf to pastebin?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> !paste | kkosmo
[10:09] <ubotu> kkosmo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:09] <arphetic> Nothing happens tbh
[10:10] <kkosmo> ok
[10:10] <kkosmo> but my grub.conf
[10:10] <kkosmo> is now the grub.conf
[10:10] <kkosmo> of live cd
[10:10] <kkosmo> i cannt get into my grub.conf
[10:10] <kkosmo> on my harddisk
[10:11] <DaSkreech> arphetic: run it from the command line and see if it throws an error
[10:11] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Mount it
[10:11] <arphetic> erm
[10:11] <xenol> DaSkreech: i wont to add mount poitn but it says /media/cdrom unknown command :O
[10:11] <arphetic> sudo adept?
[10:11] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: mkdir dirname
[10:11] <raeez> What is the konsole command to delete a file
[10:11] <arphetic> then it works
[10:12] <DaSkreech> xenol: Hmm what happens when you put the CD in? Does it detect it as a Ubuntu CD?
[10:12] <firecrotch> raeez: rm
[10:12] <arphetic> thnQ :D
[10:12] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:12] <kkosmo> i can mount it
[10:12] <xenol> DaSkreech: no it is kubuntu
[10:12] <kkosmo> tell me
[10:12] <DaSkreech> raeez: rm
[10:12] <eisma> anyone here good with C++ so that they could help me?
[10:12] <firecrotch> raeez: be careful with that though :)
[10:12] <DaSkreech> xenol: sorry Kubuntu :)
[10:12] <ubuntu> Hey gus- I'm currently running K6.10 Live Cd. I can't use Qparted though :(
[10:12] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Where did you mount it?
[10:12] <kkosmo> now i am in the live cd
[10:12] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: alt+space -> QT -> Press enter
[10:13] <kkosmo> so its dont have mount point
[10:13] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Make one
[10:13] <raeez> thanks
[10:13] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Just make a directory and mount it to it
[10:13] <arphetic> btw, at 28% it errors,error on making changes, it says something with packets too
[10:14] <xenol> DaSkreech: i just want to know what to type to terminal sudo apt-cdrom isnt enough
[10:14] <DaSkreech> arphetic: What are you installing?
[10:14] <arphetic> I try several things, but here I try nmap
[10:14] <makuseru> does anyone know why a knoppix cd asks me for a password when i go into the settings?
[10:15] <DaSkreech> xenol: sudo apt-cdrom add
[10:15] <ubuntu> When I try to resize in Qparted I get "Filesystem Check failed! Totally 21020 cluster accounting mismatches"?
[10:15] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: mkdir <directoryname>
[10:15] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Let me know when you have done that
[10:18] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:18] <arphetic> DaSkreech: it happens on GCC too :S
[10:18] <kkosmo> but if i mount it in live cd
[10:18] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:18] <kkosmo> i make the dir
[10:18] <kkosmo> what next
[10:18] <kkosmo> ?
[10:19] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: sudo mount /dev/hda1 <directoryname>
[10:20] <xenol> DaSkreech: thx man only thing that sux is that 616 packages will be installed :/
[10:20] <kkosmo> !paste |kosmo
[10:20] <ubotu> kosmo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <arphetic> I think I found the problem
[10:21] <xenol> DaSkreech: should i disable all dapper sources?
[10:21] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:21] <arphetic> some other application is using the package thing, but I dont know which one
[10:21] <kkosmo> where the grub.conf
[10:21] <kkosmo> found/
[10:21] <kkosmo> ?
[10:21] <crazy_penguin> Good night to all!
[10:22] <DaSkreech> can you ls the directoryname?
[10:22] <kkosmo> /media/hda1
[10:22] <DaSkreech> arphetic: do you have another install going somewhere?
[10:22] <DaSkreech> can you ls /media/hda1 ?
[10:22] <kkosmo> bin  boot  cdrom  dev  etc  home  initrd  initrd.img  lib  lost+found  media  mnt  opt  proc  root  sbin  srv  sys  tmp  usr  var  vmlinuz
[10:23] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: ok /media/hda1/boot/grub/grub.conf
[10:23] <xenol> DaSkreech:  should i disable dapper sources?
[10:23] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:23] <kkosmo> i dont have
[10:23] <kkosmo> that file
[10:23] <|Soul^shadow|> fuck dell's
[10:23] <kkosmo> in this directory
[10:23] <DaSkreech> xenol: If you like not really necessary
[10:24] <DaSkreech> !language
[10:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:24] <|Soul^shadow|> !no
[10:24] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[10:24] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: do you have a /media/hda1/boot/grub ?
[10:24] <xenol> DaSkreech:  i have cd in my repo
[10:24] <kkosmo> yes
[10:24] <parkerw207> heya everyone i am now a linux convery lol
[10:24] <kkosmo> but only menu
[10:24] <kkosmo> file
[10:24] <parkerw207> convert*
[10:24] <DaSkreech> xenol: it will pull from the highest one that it can which is the CD
[10:24] <kkosmo> mybe its /media/hda2
[10:24] <kkosmo> i check it
[10:24] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: no
[10:25] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: menu.lst. Sorry :)
[10:25] <xenol> DaSkreech:  i have only cd repo active now and it says that 470 mb need to be dled
[10:25] <DaSkreech> xenol: I think it means from the CD
[10:25] <xenol> ah
[10:25] <|Soul^shadow|> wow, hope ur not using dialup Ha ha ha ha
[10:25] <|Soul^shadow|> it would take a year to D/l that :P
[10:26] <xenol> yeah it would
[10:26] <xenol> :)
[10:26] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:26] <parkerw207> gusy how do i put icons on my destop ?
[10:26] <kkosmo> how its that i not have
[10:26] <kkosmo> grub.conf
[10:26] <|Soul^shadow|> hell takes an hour to d/l 1 meg sometimes :P
[10:26] <kkosmo> in this directory
[10:26] <kkosmo> ?
[10:27] <|Soul^shadow|> the grub should be in ur /boot folder
[10:27] <parkerw207> i want to put links in
[10:27] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: I think that it is /media/hda1/etc/grub.conf
[10:27] <parkerw207> like you have in windows if you know what i mean
[10:27] <kkosmo> no to
[10:27] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:27] <kkosmo> no to
[10:27] <parkerw207> #suse
[10:28] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: No matter menu.lst is the file we need
[10:28] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:28] <firecrotch> parkerw207: You mean a shortcut that will open a specific website, or what?
[10:28] <kkosmo> ok
[10:28] <kkosmo> i paste you
[10:28] <kkosmo> the contest of the file
[10:28] <kkosmo> in paste bin
[10:28] <kkosmo> ?
[10:28] <parkerw207> know like a sort cut to my home files ?
[10:28] <DaSkreech> parkerw207: You mean a launcher
[10:28] <parkerw207> i copied them onto my desktop
[10:28] <kkosmo> its relly long
[10:28] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:28] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Yes. Give me the URL that it gives you
[10:28] <parkerw207> but i think it copied the whoe driectory lol
[10:28] <kkosmo> but its relly long
[10:28] <kkosmo> man
[10:29] <DaSkreech> parkerw207: What did you do?
[10:29] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: That's why we use pastebin :)
[10:29] <kkosmo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4626/
[10:29] <kkosmo> look
[10:29] <parkerw207> pastbin?
[10:29] <DaSkreech> pastebin
[10:29] <kkosmo> !pstebin
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pstebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <kkosmo> !pastebin
[10:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:30] <parkerw207> how do connect to another channel>
[10:30] <kkosmo> /join #channel
[10:30] <DaSkreech> !join
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <DaSkreech> Doh :)
[10:30] <ubuntu> When I try to resize in Qparted I get "Filesystem Check failed! Totally 21020 cluster accounting mismatches"?
[10:30] <parkerw207> thanks alot
[10:30] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:30] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Sounds like your hard drive needs some maintenance
[10:30] <kkosmo> you know what i need to do
[10:30] <kkosmo> plzzz
[10:31] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: You put in new RAM?
[10:31] <firecrotch> ubuntu, are you trying to resize an NTFS partition?
[10:31] <kkosmo> yes
[10:31] <ubuntu> Yes
[10:31] <|Soul^shadow|> ur HD Effed up buy another 1 :P
[10:31] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:31] <firecrotch> ubuntu: Did you defragment it first?
[10:31] <DaSkreech> !coc | |Soul^shadow|
[10:31] <ubotu> |Soul^shadow|: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:31] <kkosmo> DaSkreech: you can help me
[10:31] <ubuntu> No...
[10:31] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Did you take out old RAM?
[10:31] <kkosmo> DaSkreech: no
[10:31] <firecrotch> ubuntu: That's likely the problem
[10:32] <ubuntu> Ah
[10:32] <ubuntu> Thanks for the help
[10:32] <arphetic> You know what? ill try tomorrow again, with fresh inspiration
[10:32] <ubuntu> Ill check
[10:32] <|Soul^shadow|> Dascreech I been on all day only U cokplaining about my conduct
[10:32] <|Soul^shadow|> Ignored
[10:32] <A_Dufr3sne> join kubuntu-it
[10:32] <ubuntu> Any way I can do that from the Live CD without havign to go back to Windows?
[10:32] <DaSkreech> |Soul^shadow|: Regardless I'll ask you to read the page
[10:32] <xenol> anyone can tell me if lineage 2 is playable at wine if i run it through it?
[10:32] <|Soul^shadow|> [Ignore]  Added DaSkreech!* to your ignore list
[10:32] <kkosmo> xenol:
[10:33] <kkosmo> #winehq
[10:33] <firecrotch> xenol: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[10:33] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[10:33] <BluesKaj> ubuntu , burn the GParted live Cd for partition resizing and editing...it's the best IMHO
[10:33] <kkosmo> you know what i need to do for fix this problem
[10:33] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: I'm thining. It's some hardwaer cahnge that's freaking this out
[10:33] <DaSkreech> hardware change
[10:33] <firecrotch> ubuntu: I don't think you can, you'll need to be in windows
[10:33] <ubuntu> Ah, well thanks
[10:34] <kkosmo> so how i can fix it i can give you all the  information about this new ram
[10:34] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: that might help
[10:34] <kkosmo> its kingston 512mb ram 533mhz
[10:34] <DaSkreech> whats your old RAM?
[10:35] <kkosmo> my old ram working good
[10:35] <|Soul^shadow|> man i hate whiners
[10:35] <|Soul^shadow|> :P
[10:35] <|Soul^shadow|> afk again back to work :O
[10:37] <xenol> and one more question if i update dapper to edgy will my codecs, settings and other things need to be remade?
[10:37] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Waht kind of RAM is it?
[10:37] <kkosmo> ddr
[10:37] <DaSkreech> You may need to reinstall libxine-extracodecs
[10:37] <DaSkreech> the old RAM?
[10:37] <kkosmo> not
[10:37] <DaSkreech> If they have different sync settigns that could freak teh kernel
[10:37] <kkosmo> the old ram i dont know
[10:37] <xenol> also w32codecs DaSkreech?
[10:38] <DaSkreech> xenol: Probably should update w32codecs in nay case :)
[10:38] <kkosmo> but the old ram working very good before i put this new ram
[10:38] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Which RAM is larger the old or teh new?
[10:38] <kkosmo> new
[10:38] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: If they ahve different sync settigns it can freak the kernel
[10:38] <gnunez> hola
[10:38] <parkerw207> hey can i get some help , i installed all the updates but for some reason it says connection failed on my wifi
[10:38] <DaSkreech> Take out the old RAM and boot up and tell me if it freaks
[10:38] <kkosmo> so how i can change the setttings
[10:39] <kkosmo> ok
[10:39] <kkosmo> i try it
[10:39] <juliocbm> Hi people! Kubuntu is better, faster and more stable than opensuse? If yes, why?
[10:39] <firecrotch> parkerw207:  perhaps the settings for your network got lost
[10:40] <DaSkreech> juliocbm: as much as you play with it
[10:40] <DaSkreech> juliocbm: YMMV
[10:40] <steven_> what code can i put to get all the mp3 codecs?
[10:40] <parkerw207> i put the setting in again
[10:40] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[10:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:40] <juliocbm> DaSkreech: I don't understood... Can you be more clear?
[10:41] <DaSkreech> juliocbm: faster and more stable depends on your hardware
[10:41] <mray> help: i can't start firefox2 as user, only as root. i have no idea why it does not work!? :(
[10:42] <DaSkreech> Better is always a matter of opinion
[10:42] <mluser-work> anybody else have problems after a vmware-player install? It keeps trying to configure itself everytime I run aptitude
[10:42] <shabbir> YOOOo sup
[10:42] <Random_Transit> question, if i use LVM to merge partitions that already have data on them, will that data get wiped?
[10:42] <juliocbm> DaSkreech: I say about the system stability, after many upgrades and installation, in all computers
[10:42] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <Tm_T> |Soul^shadow|: Ping.
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <mray> Random_Transit: what is LVM?
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <Random_Transit> Logical Volume Manager
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <gnomefreak> shabbir: please stop repeatingh
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:43] <shabbir> does any one have game downloads for V. 2.81
[10:44] <Random_Transit> shabbir....FUCK OFF!!
[10:44] <mray> Random_Transit: I used a G-parted live-CD and it worked fine.
[10:44] <DaSkreech> !language | Random_Transit
[10:44] <BluesKaj> !op
[10:44] <ubotu> Random_Transit: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:44] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[10:44] <Random_Transit> sorry DaSkreech
[10:44] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: we are here
[10:44] <BluesKaj> good
[10:44] <Random_Transit> mray, i don't think you understand what i mean
[10:45] <parkerw207> i did what it says , it just says , connection failed
[10:46] <mray> has anybody an idea why running firefox2 does not work as a user?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> mray: try it with a --profilemanager
[10:47] <gnomefreak> try firefox --safe-mode it will run without plugins extentions ect..
[10:47] <gnomefreak> that way you will know if its firefox or an extention plugin
[10:48] <DaSkreech> Oh yeha good idea
[10:48] <Random_Transit> so does anyone know if i can merge partitions with LVM without losing the data currently on those partitions?
[10:50] <inteliwasp> i'm starting to hate roadrunner...
[10:51] <mray> gnomefreak: Great - now I could start it!
[10:51] <gnomefreak> mray: remove the extentions you havee
[10:52] <gnomefreak> they are causing it to crash before starting
[10:52] <mray> gnomefreak: they're all gone somehow :(
[10:52] <RickSeymour> Howdy ho there folks... if is say installed edgy.. can i then move onto fiesty? how easy is it to move between the two
[10:52] <gnomefreak> mray: only in safemode
[10:52] <DaSkreech> !upgrade | RickSeymour
[10:52] <ubotu> RickSeymour: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:52] <gnomefreak> mray: once you start it normally you will crash it again
[10:53] <RickSeymour> how cool is that :)
[10:53] <DaSkreech> RickSeymour: Pretty cool :)
[10:53] <ubuntu> DaSkreech:
[10:53] <kkosmo> its happan
[10:53] <BluesKaj> !Fiesty
[10:53] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:54] <kkosmo> agin
[10:54] <kkosmo> when i take out
[10:54] <kkosmo> the memory card
[10:54] <kkosmo> the old
[10:54] <kkosmo> its show kernel panic
[10:54] <kkosmo> agein
[10:54] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: Still freaking?
[10:54] <kkosmo> yes
[10:54] <DaSkreech> Ok I should have asked you to then swap it and only put in the Old memory :(
[10:54] <kkosmo> damn
[10:55] <Tm_T> |Soul^shadow|: Ping.
[10:55] <DaSkreech> so that we could rule that out
[10:55] <Random_Transit> !lvm
[10:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:55] <kkosmo> but i want that
[10:55] <kkosmo> memory
[10:55] <BluesKaj> kkosmo, don't space bar ...write your sentence
[10:55] <kkosmo> its dont the way to rule out the memory
[10:55] <Tm_T> |Soul^shadow|: Did you read CoC ?
[10:56] <|Soul^shadow|> I dont read coc im straight
[10:56] <|Soul^shadow|> coc is for women man
[10:56] <|Soul^shadow|> omg...
[10:56] <RickSeymour> well i think the time is right.......... Moving from Gentoo to Kubuntu ... all hail :)
[10:56] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: I think that we may be able to fix the memory but I want to know what is causing the problem
[10:57] <|Soul^shadow|> go for t rick, u will be happyer
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> and omg makes you sound like a female aol user
[10:57] <kkosmo> when i put this memory
[10:57] <kkosmo> in
[10:57] <genii> LOL
[10:57] <kkosmo> this problem come
[10:57] <RickSeymour> just watching a pirate movie type thing
[10:57] <aseigo> omg!
[10:57] <kkosmo> the problem is from the new memory i am sure very very sure about it
[10:58] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: You took it out and put in the old memory and it booted?
[10:58] <kkosmo> no all the system
[10:58] <kkosmo> working
[10:58] <kkosmo> good
[10:58] <genii> soulrider Any joy on the ping latency?
[10:58] <kkosmo> i buy this memory
[10:58] <kkosmo> put it in
[10:58] <inteliwasp> could someone point me to a guide on how to make a dvd movie with a menu?
[10:58] <kkosmo> and this error
[10:58] <kkosmo> come with this memory
[11:00] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: to confirm take out the new memory and put in the old one If it works then we know it's the memory
[11:00] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: do you have two computers?
[11:00] <kkosmo> no
[11:00] <kkosmo> 1
[11:00] <kkosmo> i am know that the memory
[11:00] <kkosmo> is make this problem
[11:00] <dwidmann> kkosmo: run memtest and see if it complains
[11:00] <kkosmo> becouse from when i am put it in this error will come
[11:00] <Tm_T> <3
[11:01] <DaSkreech> lol
[11:01] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[11:01] <Tm_T> I can feel my power!
[11:01] <DaSkreech> I'm confused as to why teh Live CD works though
[11:01] <kkosmo> i dont know
[11:01] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: as long as it doesn't stop us from feeling the community's power :)
[11:01] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: You mean MY power?
[11:02] <cpk1> aieee
[11:02] <dwidmann> netsplit indeed
[11:02] <inteliwasp> big netsplit...
[11:02] <dwidmann> irc.freenode.net it said
[11:02] <mray_> spammer ;)
[11:02] <DaSkreech> genii: for life!
[11:02] <genii> DaSkreech :)
[11:03] <kkosmo> DaSkreech:
[11:03] <DaSkreech> kkosmo: I'd prefer if we know for certain
[11:03] <dwidmann> certainty is good
[11:03] <DaSkreech>  If you have two computers then we can test the memory :)
[11:03] <DaSkreech> at worst when you are booting the live Cd it has a memory test on it
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> or just use memtest86
[11:05] <kkosmo> h3sp4wn:
[11:05] <kkosmo> how i use this memtest
[11:05] <A_Dufr3sne> anyone could help me? I have a problem with audio board
[11:05] <dwidmann> kkosmo, should be an option at boot
[11:05] <A_Dufr3sne> query me
[11:06] <dwidmann> oh, and kkosmo, did you work out your booting issue from before?
[11:06] <sebbar_> hi, my mom just complained to me on the phone that she had troubles using her paypal account on linux, I've never used paypal but has anybody ever heard of problems between linux/paypal?
[11:06] <kkosmo> i dont understand
[11:06] <A_Dufr3sne> or go to #soundblaster
[11:06] <kkosmo> what are you meaning
[11:07] <dwidmann> sebbar_: I only use it on rare occasion, but I didn't have any trouble with it.
[11:07] <sebbar_> dwidmann: pretty much what I thought, will have to take a closer look at the problem, tnx
[11:08] <genii> kkosmo All that memtest does is just exhaustively check your RAM. It is installed to the grub menu by default, so to run it just interrupt the grub loader with Esc key, then select it from the choices. If your ram is bad, a couple passes thru the test shows it
[11:08] <posingaspopular> On the live CD the first option is
[11:08] <posingaspopular> Install and run
[11:09] <posingaspopular> or something to the degree
[11:09] <posingaspopular> if you scroll down a bit on the options
[11:09] <posingaspopular> the memtest is.... 3rd from the bottom, i think?
[11:09] <parkerw207> how do install knetworkmanager ?
[11:09] <cpk1> sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager?
[11:11] <parkerw207> thank you very much
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> parkerw207: remember to comment everything out except lo from /etc/network/interfaces
[11:12] <mray_> what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get ?
[11:12] <DaSkreech> genii: I don't know if the RAM is bad
[11:12] <DaSkreech>  the default kernel just doesn't like it though
[11:12] <steven_> can someone please tell me what to type for getting the mp3 codecs?? i dont understand!! :( :(
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> there is a bad ram patch thing debian has
[11:12] <xenol> i have problem
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> if you do have bad ram you can still use it
[11:13] <DaSkreech> genii: I would assume that a live cd would be more likely to crash on bad ram than a normal boot
[11:13] <A_Dufr3sne> mray... I have wonderd too
[11:13] <parkerw207> will this do it all for me ?
[11:13] <parkerw207> ooo yeah
[11:13] <parkerw207> is there anything for wifi i can get off there ?
[11:13] <parkerw207> ooo this is knetworkmananger dont find my wifi
[11:13] <genii> DaSkreech: Could be some mixed types or else badly placed in the slots for dual-channel use or something similar
[11:14] <parkerw207> this is doing my head in
[11:14] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | steven_
[11:14] <ubotu> steven_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:14] <parkerw207> i dont know what you mean sorry
[11:14] <parkerw207> i am a newbie
[11:15] <steven_> :( i dont understand that!!:(
[11:15] <xenol> i added edgz eft alternate cd install to repo started apt-get upgrade and last 16 packages werent installed so i made x windows restart after then nothing booted so i booted alternate edgy cd and  installed system from scratch but when i wanted to boot  system from hDD only shell booted and when i typed sudo startx it said startx is unknown command
[11:15] <xenol> can anyone gimme ideas how to install edgy from alternate with x.org plz?
[11:16] <parkerw207> do you need to reboot to get updates to work ?
[11:16] <xenol> hmm it said some error that cant install last updates so i thought when i reboot x that it will help but didnt :/
[11:17] <NkZ> Greetings guys
[11:17] <mray_> parkerw207: mostly you don't need to reboot (like windows 98) ;)
[11:17] <xenol> is alternate cd supposed to install x windows?
[11:17] <DaSkreech> parkerw207: You only reboot for kernel upgrades
[11:18] <DaSkreech> xenol: Alternate installs whatever you want
[11:18] <NkZ> I just did "apt-get remove Konqueror" (Cuz I hate it) and Made the "Mistake" to do "apt-get autoremove". Now my window browser for KDE is gone. How can I solve that?
[11:18] <DaSkreech> xenol: it doesn't have to install xwindows
[11:18] <DaSkreech> xenol: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:18] <posingaspopular> mray: about your apt question. this blog might help http://blog.notsosoft.net/
[11:19] <yuriy> NkZ: window browser? as in window manager? or kicker?
[11:19] <xenol> DaSkreech: well but it didnt asked me wat to install
[11:19] <xenol> i only tagged software for kubuntu
[11:19] <xenol> DaSkreech: so i think x should be installed
[11:19] <NkZ> yuriy: Window Browser as nautilius for gnome
[11:19] <DaSkreech> xenol: if startx isn't installed I think it's safe to assume that X isn't ther
[11:19] <yuriy> NkZ: file manager?
[11:19] <DaSkreech> try jsut yping X
[11:19] <yuriy> NkZ: konqueror IS the file manager
[11:20] <xenol> DaSkreech: i tried to type startx and it was unknown command
[11:20] <xenol> so x isnt isntalled?
[11:20] <NkZ> Yuriy: File manager AND web browser?
[11:20] <DaSkreech> xenol: try X
[11:20] <yuriy> NkZ: yep
[11:20] <NkZ> Yuriy: Darn it LOL, Didn't know. I just hate It. ha ha ha ha
[11:20] <genii> Removing Konqueror is *not* a good idea
[11:21] <NkZ> Yuriy: apt-get install will solve the issue, right?
[11:21] <yuriy> NkZ: well that's just silly :P but if you want an alternate kde file manager, install dolphin
[11:21] <yuriy> !info dolphin edgy
[11:21] <NkZ> Yuriy: which is better?
[11:21] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[11:21] <genii> Since it doubles as the KDE equivelent of windoze File Explorer
[11:21] <aseigo> dolphin or kommander, depending on your leanings
[11:21] <NkZ> Which one you reccomend? Konq or Dolph?
[11:22] <yuriy> NkZ: matter of preference. since you don't like konqueror, you might like the other ones better
[11:22] <yuriy> i personally prefer konqueror
[11:22] <NkZ> Roger that. Then I will just go with the flow and apt-get konq again
[11:22] <genii> Does the new xfce manager work in KDE?
[11:22] <yuriy> but there's also krusader
[11:23] <yuriy> genii: any file manager will work in any DE, but won't fit in nicely and will load extra libraries
[11:23] <genii> thunar9?) I thuink is the name. I like how it handles in xfce
[11:23] <NkZ> I will just suck up Konqueror.
[11:23] <NkZ> How do I disable is as custom Web browser?
[11:24] <yuriy> NkZ: custom? you mean default?
[11:24] <NkZ> Yes.
[11:24] <bobleny> Hey, How do I install programs that are not in the repositorys?
[11:24] <yuriy> NkZ: in system settings there's a "default applications" icon
[11:24] <james___> can enny 1 help me my dvds wont play on here what do i need to download or set
[11:24] <NkZ> Could you please do a !startup on me please?
[11:24] <yuriy> NkZ: anyways if you don't like konqueror, give dolphin and krusader a try
[11:25] <NkZ> Yuriy: You convinced me when you said Konq had more features and such.
[11:25] <yuriy> bobleny: you usually have to compile them if you can't find a package or repository
[11:25] <genii> If the program exists in e deb package but just not in the default repos you have enabled, enable the new repository that it is in, then do an update and it should appear as something to install. Other apps need to be installed from source however, or from a proprietary package you download and execute to install. Depends on what it is
[11:26] <yuriy> bobleny: what in particular are you trying to install?
[11:26] <djwilcox> you need to install libdvdcss2 to watch dvds
[11:26] <yuriy> !dvd | james__
[11:26] <ubotu> james__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:26] <genii> OK time to leave for work. Back here in about 20 minutes
[11:27] <james___> my dvds play but no sound or pic
[11:27] <djwilcox> hi has anyone managed to get mt-daapd working with itunes 7
[11:27] <posingaspopular> james___: what do you mean they play without sound or pic?
[11:28] <james___> when i put my dvd in the drive its plays but it dont have enny sound or pic
[11:28] <djwilcox> im trying to set up a daap streamer using mt-daapd but it doesnt show up on my mac in itunes
[11:28] <yuriy> james__: what player?
[11:29] <james___> kaffinen
[11:29] <djwilcox> try using vlc for dvds
[11:29] <james___> ok i go look for it
[11:29] <posingaspopular> james___: VLC is very good for dvds. i have the same problem with kaffine
[11:29] <djwilcox> u can also stream dvds using vlc across your home network
[11:30] <james___> yes i use vlc for windows
[11:30] <djwilcox> managed to stream to a desktop and a laptop and the same time
[11:31] <djwilcox> you can also stream dvds wirelessly but if you are using a firewall open port 8080
[11:31] <bobleny> yuriy, I want to install TrueCrypt
[11:31] <mray> is there a GUI for truecrypt out there btw?
[11:31] <just-this-time> !mid
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <just-this-time> !midi
[11:32] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[11:32] <djwilcox> is it possible to install the darwin streaming server on linux
[11:32] <bobleny> Can you point me to a guide on how to compile it?
[11:32] <djwilcox> looking at way to stream video
[11:34] <djwilcox> anyone got any tips on setting up a media centre
[11:35] <djwilcox> cant get mt-daapd working and it only streams audio
[11:35] <ltmon> djwilcox: TV and video, or just music?
[11:35] <bobleny> ubotu rules!
[11:35] <djwilcox> everything ideally
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rules! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <ltmon> djwilcox: MythTV is probably the most complete package for that kind of thing... pretty heavyweight though
[11:36] <djwilcox> would like create a daap stream that shows up in itunes
[11:36] <bobleny> ubotu is one of the smartist machines around.
[11:36] <djwilcox> yer had a look at mythtv
[11:36] <soulrider> lol bobleny
[11:36] <soulrider> !botsnack
[11:36] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:36] <djwilcox> had a few problems trying to install
[11:36] <Stromberg> hi im having problems to find "Kile" (LaTeX frontend) with apt
[11:37] <djwilcox> think it looked like over kill as i dont have a tv card
[11:37] <Stromberg> anyone knows where to find it?
[11:37] <ltmon> djwilcox: did you use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV?
[11:37] <soulrider> Stromberg: you sure thats the correct package name ?
[11:37] <Stromberg> well thats how the program is callled
[11:37] <bobleny> I just trying to open a convo with ubotu
[11:37] <jott_> !kile
[11:37] <soulrider> uhm
[11:37] <ubotu> kile: KDE Integrated LaTeX Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.9.1-1 (edgy), package size 1807 kB, installed size 6876 kB
[11:37] <soulrider> i seem to have it
[11:37] <yuriy> bobleny: googling truecrypt ubuntu turns up some how-to's
[11:37] <Stromberg> weird
[11:37] <yuriy> bobleny: like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199367&highlight=truecrypt
[11:37] <Stromberg> 6.10 here
[11:38] <djwilcox> i had problems trying to set up the mysql database
[11:38] <soulrider> Stromberg: have you enabled universe ?
[11:38] <Stromberg> not by myself
[11:38] <djwilcox> trying to find some video audio streamer that will show up on a mac
[11:38] <soulrider> but its enabled right ?
[11:38] <Stromberg> using synaptic ill check it
[11:38] <Stromberg> no idea
[11:38] <soulrider> ok
[11:38] <soulrider> open a console
[11:39] <nazgul2> Adiosito
[11:39] <soulrider> !es
[11:39] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:39] <Stromberg> soulrider: when i want to activate universe it says: "Packages from this component are not supported"
[11:39] <soulrider> yes
[11:39] <ltmon> djwilcox: it's not just worth setting up a Samba share and playing your video straight over that?
[11:40] <soulrider> but that doesnt mean they are gonna break your computer
[11:40] <Stromberg> dont care about that?
[11:40] <Stromberg> hehe okie
[11:40] <soulrider> enable it, theres no risk at all
[11:40] <Stromberg> so support = i cant bother kubuntu dudes with it
[11:40] <djwilcox> samba meaning windows
[11:40] <soulrider> but its good that you ask
[11:40] <soulrider> right
[11:41] <ltmon> djwilcox: it's what windows uses, but was around long before windows, but Mac, Windows and Linux clients can all connect to it pretty easily
[11:41] <Stromberg> wheeee a whole shitload of new packages
[11:41] <Stromberg> soulrider: thx mate
[11:41] <djwilcox> yer all my drives are mac in hfs+
[11:41] <soulrider> lol Stromberg
[11:41] <djwilcox> so i use ssh to connect mac to linux
[11:41] <the_hammer> nayone have troubles installing sun-java?
[11:41] <ltmon> djwilcox: files system type doesn't matter with samba... set up a samba server on your linux box and share files over it
[11:42] <soulrider> the_hammer: are you using adept to install it ?
[11:42] <the_hammer> anyone*
[11:42] <Stromberg> i love this beryl xgl stuff btw
[11:42] <the_hammer> ya
[11:42] <Stromberg> fedora was so slow when using aiglx
[11:42] <the_hammer> and term to
[11:42] <Stromberg> xgl rules
[11:42] <soulrider> lol Stromberg
[11:42] <soulrider> the_hammer: i think theres a bug with adept
[11:42] <the_hammer> sounds like it
[11:42] <soulrider> the_hammer: do you know how to use the console to install a package ?
[11:42] <the_hammer> yup
[11:42] <the_hammer> apt-get install
[11:43] <soulrider> ok, youre gonna have to use the konsole then
[11:43] <soulrider> right
[11:43] <djwilcox> are there any streaming servers for linux
[11:43] <the_hammer> i tried that to same thing
[11:43] <soulrider> or aptitude install
[11:43] <soulrider> i prefer aptitude
[11:43] <soulrider> what error do you get ?
[11:43] <djwilcox> like the quicktime streaming server
[11:43] <the_hammer> how would i use that?
[11:43] <soulrider> aptitude? the same way as apt-get
[11:43] <the_hammer> well when its done i get a screen suppose to click ok
[11:44] <soulrider> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre probably (not sure if thats hte correct package)
[11:44] <soulrider> yes, you ahve to agree to a licence
[11:46] <hassan2a> salut otut le monde
[11:46] <ltmon> djwilcox: you could try videolan... http://www.videolan.org/, but I can't give you much more guidance than that, as i haven't used it myself
[11:46] <soulrider> hi hassan2a
[11:46] <soulrider> !fr
[11:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:46] <graf2ix> hassan2a: tes sur un chan anglais la XD
[11:47] <djwilcox> yer i have used vlc to stream dvds
[11:47] <djwilcox> just checking to see if i can install the quicktime streamer server
[11:47] <the_hammer> brb
[11:48] <ltmon> djwilcox: i doubt it, as it's produced by apple and they don't seem to do much (if any) linux software
[11:48] <djwilcox> they have a open source version the darwin streaming server
[11:49] <ltmon> djwilcox: what do you know, they do
[11:49] <djwilcox> just downloading the source now
[11:49] <ltmon> djwilcox: looks like some compiling etc. to set up
[11:50] <djwilcox> i have built the darwin streamer server on macs before
[11:51] <djwilcox> has anyone managed to get avahi working
[11:51] <DaSkreech> !startup
[11:51] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[11:51] <djwilcox> so that services on kubuntu show up on a mac
[11:51] <xenophile7x7> does anyone in here play the game Rappelz?
[11:52] <djwilcox> like daap streams and websites
[11:55] <just-this-time> fenix_: ?
[11:57] <FoXs> Zdravim. Povedlo se tu tady nekomu rozchodit SPDIF?
[11:57] <xenol> DaSkreech:  so i back edgz is installed
[11:58] <graft> yo, anyone got a kde/beryl/fglrx/xgl how-to handy?
[11:58] <xenol> but inet isnt working max resolution is 1024x768 no drivers installed
[11:59] <xenol> anyone can help me plz?
[11:59] <Tm_T> !xgl > graft
[11:59] <xenol> DaSkreech: u here?
[11:59] <dwidmann> graft, one sec
[11:59] <DaSkreech> xenol: for two minutes?
[12:00] <xenol> DaSkreech:  can u tell me few things plz?
[12:00] <jott_> hmm btw is there any reason why vlc has not been updated to 0.8.6a as older versions are vulnerable? (yes i know its in universe but anyway ;)
[12:00] <xenol> i wait
[12:01] <xenol> DaSkreech: ?
[12:01] <dwidmann> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[12:03] <DaSkreech> xenol: ask
[12:03] <dwidmann> jott:jott_: there is an updated version in "edgy-security:"
[12:03] <xenol> DaSkreech: so i installed edgy and kde is running :p
[12:04] <DaSkreech> xenol: cool :-) not a question but...
[12:04] <jott_> dwidmann: ah..ok
[12:04] <xenol> DaSkreech: prob is i have no drivers installed for my ati and cant change resolution to more than 1024x768 cause monitor aint defined it onlz sazs generic monitor
[12:04] <xenol> and also my i-net isnt working
[12:04] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[12:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:04] <dwidmann> jott: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[12:05] <jott_> dwidmann: yep thanks i wonder why i did not have them enabled ;p
[12:05] <xenol> DaSkreech: should i copy xorg.conf from livecd?
[12:05] <xenol> or at least the past with monitor?
[12:05] <dwidmann> erm, that line wasn't quite right, sorry, should have read edgy-security instead of just edgy
[12:06] <jott_> dwidmann: no problem i got it right...
[12:06] <jott_> already updated ;)
[12:07] <dwidmann> I envy your connection :(
[12:07] <xenol> DaSkreech: also my connection to inet aint configured
[12:09] <fairman> FTP server question: I tried to install vsftpd and i need to add some directories from my /home to /home/ftp, i tried it througt symlinks, but it do not works, how can i do it?
[12:10] <fairman> I do not want to move whole directory!
[12:11] <masand> :-)
[12:13] <Captain_Redbeard> Hey guys, I'm having some problems with amarok, it doesn't  build the collection database even though it's reporting that it is, I even left it sitting for 12 hours and nothing. it, however, doesn't report any errors. What could be wrong?
[12:13] <dwidmann> Captain_Redbeard: cancel it and try again
[12:13] <dwidmann> if it continues to fail, delete your ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok folder
[12:14] <Captain_Redbeard> dwidmann: done it
[12:14] <Captain_Redbeard> dwidmann: also reinstalled it, checked the permissions for everything and so forth
[12:14] <Captain_Redbeard> dwidmann: all it does is creating the tables, but it doesn't fill them with anything
[12:15] <bingodash> hello