[08:32] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[08:32] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Ofcourse you will have to modify it a bit.
[08:32] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: You may have to that is...
[08:33] <stdin> pollyo: don't you need the umask setting in there?
[08:34] <ElusiveCreature> I think "defaults" sets the umask to 0000
[08:35] <xushi> does kubuntu's forum support fall under ubuntu in lq.org ?
[08:35] <pollyo> stdin: I couldn't tell you.  I got the line from the website that discussed NTFS-3g itself.
[08:36] <stdin> xushi: no, lq is a different site, there are ubuntuforums.org and kubuntuforums.org
[08:36] <pollyo> stdin: Seemed easy enough and worked (for me).
[08:36] <xushi> ta
[08:36] <xushi> hmm, kubuntuforums.org looks fake
[08:37] <pollyo> How can I tell if compiz is working?
[08:37] <pollyo> I think it was called compiz.
[08:37] <pollyo> !compiz
[08:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:37] <xushi> !forum
[08:37] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:37] <pollyo> Yes
[08:38] <stdin> xushi: huh, well there was a kubuntu one, seems it's no more
[08:38] <ElusiveCreature> you know the funny thing?  I only installed Ubuntu because I started trying to install linux on my PS3 so I could give cell coding a go
[08:38] <xushi> i need to ask a long-ish question regarding kubuntu use in my company.. Should i ask it in ubuntuforums.org ?
[08:39] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Linux support on PS3 makes the system look like they really overrated it.  Especially since they lock out alot of the hardware.
[08:39] <stdin> xushi: you can ask on the forum, or on the mailinglist
[08:40] <ElusiveCreature> I know....but I can understand why they had to do it. I imagine nVidia would have a lot of problems with allowing publicaly available source for the drivers
[08:40] <stdin> xushi: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users (for the Kubuntu one)
[08:41] <xushi> ugh, i **hate** mailing lists.. it's so unorganised and clutters my inbox
[08:41] <Hobbsee> xushi: what's the question?
[08:41] <xushi> well, i'll start here then,
[08:41] <ElusiveCreature> but you can write a fairly decent software renderer with a basic programmable pipeline if you use 2 or 3 SPU's
[08:41] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: I imagine the real cause was to keep people from purchasing it to actually use linux on it.  Seeing that Sony takes a big loss on each unit.  They need to sell software that they get licensing fees for to run on it.
[08:41] <xushi> basically good news. our company is convinced to switch all their desktop OS from windows to linux. Kubuntu was chosen for the desktop OS. I just need to make sure how to set it up as an office OS rather than a desktop OS. Mainly:
[08:42] <xushi> attach the 15 machines to a domain. Allow for the user's accounts to be created and managed from ONE server instead of on the individual machines
[08:42] <ElusiveCreature> I dunno...with only 256 MB of RAM, it's not an attractive linux box
[08:43] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: That is what I have on here. <grin>
[08:43] <xushi> these user accoutns are limited (not root), and user X can login with her account from any computer, not just one. (as long as she's not logged in another place)
[08:43] <xushi> etc.
[08:43] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: The PS3 even has a faster CPU then my machine. <grin>
[08:43] <wolferine> xushi, this isnt windows anymore
[08:43] <wolferine> :)
[08:44] <ElusiveCreature> heh....define "faster"
[08:44] <xushi> wolferine: i've heard i could do the above witn samba. And anyway, like i said, we're looking for a windows alternative
[08:44] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Good question.  I do not even recall what I have on this machine.  I know it is a P3
[08:44] <ElusiveCreature> so I have to restart after installing ntfs-3g?
[08:44] <xushi> and such features are a must. I'm assuming linux, a network-os (compared to windows since its early stages) can do all of this.
[08:45] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: I do not recall having to restart.
[08:45] <wolferine> xushi like I said, your thinking inside a windows box
[08:45] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Did you make the changes to your fstab?
[08:45] <wolferine> just a matter of how much you really want to learn
[08:45] <stdin> xushi: I know there are ways of doing that, but I don't know enough about how to do it (because I've never had to), but you'll get more responce on the forums and (especially) the mailing list
[08:46] <xushi> wolferine: help me to think inside a linux box then.  I'm a linux user for over 8 years. This company comes to me and wants this X Y and Z. I have to figure out something like it or an alternative
[08:46] <ElusiveCreature> yeah, I changed the fs type and re-mounted the filesystem as root
[08:46] <xushi> I'll try the mailing list then
[08:46] <wolferine> the forums will let you know more specifically what you can do
[08:47] <stdin> xushi: you can also try asking on the main ubuntu-users mailinglist too, as the setup should be the same for both
[08:47] <wolferine> and there are lots of guides, just google around a bit, im sure you will find any answers you have
[08:47] <ElusiveCreature> the line I changed looks like this
[08:47] <ElusiveCreature> /dev/sdb1	/media/data	ntfs-3g ro,nls=utf8,umask=0000 0 0
[08:48] <stdin> ElusiveCreature: you don't want the "ro", do you?
[08:48] <ElusiveCreature> oh...wait... ro = read-only, right?
[08:48] <stdin> yeah
[08:49] <stdin> rw = read-write
[08:49] <stdin> and add "auto" to have it automounted at boot
[08:50] <Absorto> hello! I've setup a custom kernel in grub. I want this kernel to load init 3, so I appended a "3" to my kernel line. But ubuntu boots to init 2 all the same. Help!
[08:50] <ElusiveCreature> hmm....still can't write to the drive
[08:51] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Do you only want root to write to it?
[08:51] <philfo> ok, I've got another problem.  this one I created.  I was in system settings, in the disk & filesystems category & trying to get my other hd's to mount on startup. now all I have is a "lost & found" file in /media that I don't have permission to access.
[08:51] <philfo> some help would be great.
[08:52] <hawk_> !diskmount
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diskmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <hawk_> !diskmounter
[08:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:52] <stdin> philfo: you seem to have mounted a ext2/3 fs over /media  (i.e., not in a directory UNDER /media)
[08:52] <philfo> whoops.
[08:52] <philfo> how do I undo this?
[08:52] <stdin> philfo: sudo umount /media
[08:53] <ElusiveCreature> pollyo: no...I want to be able to write to it too....
[08:53] <ElusiveCreature> I have a lot of data that I'd like to be able to modify
[08:53] <stdin> ElusiveCreature: what are the permissions on /media/data ? (run ls -l /media/data)
[08:54] <philfo> cr*p, command not found
[08:54] <ElusiveCreature> the data permissions are drwxrwxrwx
[08:54] <hawk_> philof try pmount
[08:54] <ElusiveCreature> but it says the owner is root
[08:54] <philfo> yowza.
[08:55] <philfo> now where?
[08:55] <ricky> does anyone know the package's name that make a nice transparent toolbar with icons?
[08:55] <philfo> it's in the system settings utility
[08:55] <stdin> ElusiveCreature: it's ok for it to be owned by root, as long as it is writable to all
[08:55] <ElusiveCreature> ok
[08:55] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Mine is also Owned and Grouped to Root
[08:56] <stdin> ElusiveCreature: what error do you get while trying to write to it?
[08:56] <ElusiveCreature> oh...here's something interesting...
[08:56] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: I do have Create and Delete files access though.
[08:56] <ElusiveCreature> I can make a dir at the terminal, but I can't make a dir in the gnome file manager
[08:56] <philfo> hawk_: now what am I doing with this?
[08:57] <stdin> ElusiveCreature: eww, gnome :P what's the error it gives ?
[08:57] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Let me try it in gnome.  I just installed gnome the other day and I'm playing in it now.
[08:57] <hawk_> did it umount media
[08:57] <ElusiveCreature> it doesn't give an error....it just blanks out the Create Folder menu option
[08:57] <philfo> pmount was just a manual it looked like
[08:57] <ricky> does anyone know the package's name that make a nice transparent menu with icons in the desktop?
[08:57] <philfo> didn't unmount anything
[08:57] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Hmmm...
[08:58] <stdin> ElusiveCreature: I'd say try logging out and back in, sometimes the GUI apps need to reload the permissions settings to work
[08:58] <hawk_> !berly
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <hawk_> !beryl
[08:58] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:58] <hawk_> pmount media/ type this in
[08:58] <pollyo> !compiz
[08:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:58] <ElusiveCreature> and hey....this is the first time I've used a *nix environment for 10 years....you'll have to excuse me if I stick with the default gui ;)
[08:59] <hawk_> lol i realy dont think it is worth the work to get a gui better the kde a flux working on my box lol
[08:59] <pollyo> ElusiveCreature: Did you install Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[09:00] <philfo> hawk_:
[09:00] <philfo> mount: /dev/hda3 already mounted or /media busy
[09:00] <philfo> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda3 is already mounted on /media
[09:00] <ElusiveCreature> oh...ubuntu desktop
[09:00] <ElusiveCreature> umm...wrong channel :p
[09:01] <hawk_> ok type in umount media/
[09:01] <stdin> philfo: sudo umount /dev/hda3 (make sure you type 'umount' not 'unmount')
[09:01] <hawk_> thank you stdin
[09:01] <ElusiveCreature> going to log out to see if gnome will let me write to the drive
[09:02] <hawk_> stdin wouldnt umount media do the same thing
[09:02] <philfo> lets hope because I already did it
[09:02] <philfo> now I mount media again, correct?
[09:03] <stdin> hawk_: yeah, but just in case more than 1 thing is mounted on /media, specifying the device may be better
[09:03] <philfo> stdin: I owe you.  thanks.
[09:03] <hawk_> stdin ok that sounds right
[09:03] <stdin> philfo: change where hda3 gets mounted first, so it's not on /media, but somewhere in /media
[09:03] <philfo> I'm still trying to get used to this file system.
[09:04] <hawk_> philfo this is as far as i can go i dont know anymore then that
[09:04] <philfo> make another folder in media for hda3?
[09:04] <stdin> philfo: yeah
[09:04] <philfo> any particular name?
[09:04] <hawk_> no
[09:04] <stdin> philfo: anything you want to call it is fine
[09:05] <hawk_> stdin how long have you been using linux for
[09:05] <stdin> hawk_: about 11 years now
[09:05] <stdin> hawk_: since I was 10 :P
[09:05] <hawk_> stdin wow that cool
[09:05] <ElusiveCreature> right.....I can write to the fs now...
[09:06] <hawk_> stdin so that means you where using slakware when it was new lol
[09:06] <ElusiveCreature> thanks for the help guys
[09:06] <ElusiveCreature> I spent an AGE last night cratching me head over this
[09:06] <ElusiveCreature> * scratching
[09:07] <hawk_> stdin cant philfo use diskmounter know and it will mount everything for him
[09:07] <hawk_> lElusiveCreatur: we all do it from time to time
[09:08] <philfo> I have two directories I want to mount in /media.  just create two separate folders, one for each?
[09:08] <stdin> hawk_: he still needs to know the right settings for it
[09:08] <stdin> philfo: yeah
[09:08] <philfo> ok cool.
[09:08] <stdin> philfo: for each thing you want to mount, just have a different directory for each
[09:08] <hawk_> ElusiveCreature:  we all need help from time to time
[09:08] <philfo> I don't want to use a GUI when I can LEARN how to do it with commands.
[09:09] <philfo> I was way too spoiled by Windoze and I'm paying for it now, but it's getting slowly better.
[09:09] <hawk_> philfo: that is very true
[09:09] <stdin> philfo: once you get used to it, the command line is so much faster, and more powerful than any GUI tool
[09:09] <philfo> I just learned a valuable lesson.
[09:10] <hawk_> philfo: hey would you like a pdf on some linux basics
[09:10] <philfo> I like using command lines, I just need to learn them.
[09:10] <ElusiveCreature> right....now I can install linux on my ps3.....but first. I've been told I have to go to the bakery
[09:11] <bill__k> hawk_: i'll take a pdf
[09:11] <hawk_> philfo: it is an old slakware book but it covers all the basic bash functions
[09:11] <bill__k> easier than carrying around a dead tree
[09:11] <philfo> sure.  I was thinking about getting linux for dummies, but was sure that there must be something out on the intarweb
[09:11] <bill__k> stdin: same
[09:11] <bill__k> on each computer
[09:11] <philfo> now what is this "bash"?
[09:11] <stdin> !bash
[09:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:11] <bill__k> born again shell
[09:11] <hawk_> ok i will get the link up
[09:11] <philfo> I'm learning to keep a terminal open all the time
[09:12] <hawk_> it is the command line you are useing
[09:12] <philfo> does bash stand for anything?  acronym?
[09:12] <bill__k> born again shell
[09:12] <bill__k> b a sh
[09:12] <philfo> thanks
[09:12] <bill__k> sure
[09:12] <stdin> philfo: in windoes there is only 1 shell, the DOS shell, in linux there are many. eash specialise in different things. Bash is the most popular and (imo) the easiest to use
[09:13] <philfo> cool, cool
[09:13] <Betzefer> any 1 needs help ?
[09:13] <bill__k> anyone know how to make my usb optical mouse go slower than the lowest setting systemsettings allows?
[09:13] <philfo> float test the mouse.
[09:13] <hawk_> i do but you but it is all mentall
[09:14] <bill__k> ?
[09:14] <crazyrobot> the fish shell is nice.  but very, very, very slow.
[09:14] <philfo> sorry, it's an old saying we used in the Navy when we wanted something to conform to specs it wasn't made for
[09:15] <philfo> we'd "float test" it & then one with correct spec magically showed up.
[09:15] <ElusiveCreature> as in "we commit this thing to the sea"
[09:15] <bill__k> hah
[09:15] <philfo> yes.
[09:15] <philfo> and it's wonderful taking out some agression that way.
[09:16] <bill__k> lol
[09:16] <bill__k> so, how do I slow down my mouse?
[09:16] <philfo> is it optical?
[09:17] <pollyo> BBL
[09:18] <philfo> ok, I'm getting a bit frustrated with Wine.
[09:18] <hawk_> ftp://ftp.slackbook.org/pub/slackbook/slackbook-2.0.pdf
[09:18] <bill__k> philfo: yes it is
[09:18] <bill__k> it's a razer diamondback
[09:18] <hawk_> there you all go it is a great book it is about slakware but all the same stuff for most linux
[09:18] <philfo> I try to open it, then about 30 seconds later, it just closes
[09:18] <bill__k> hawk_: thanks
[09:19] <philfo> thanks hawk
[09:19] <hawk_> bill__k: np
[09:19] <crazyrobot> does anyone know where the "console" options are?  F1-F6 console?
[09:19] <hawk_> philfo:np
[09:19] <hawk_> whats the internet for information
[09:19] <bob__> anyone get this apt error? "Unable to parse package file"
[09:20] <bill__k> what package file?
[09:20] <bob__> archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[09:20] <hawk_> digital infomation= no hiding things
[09:20] <philfo> so, is this problem with Wine a setting or is it buggy?
[09:20] <bob__> get 926 of em when I 'aptitude upgrade'
[09:20] <hawk_> whats going on with wine
[09:21] <bob__> not using it
[09:21] <bob__> it might be installed
[09:21] <hakanceng> arkadalar herkes yabanc dildemi konuuyor burda trke kullanc yokmu kubuntu yu kullanan  yardmc olacak sanrm buras yardmlama sitesi deil
[09:21] <bob__> nope no wine installed
[09:21] <philfo> I try to open it, the pointer thingy bounces for a while then it just closes
[09:21] <hawk_> anyone know anything about vmware workstation
[09:22] <sonoftheclayr> is it possible to use different windows instead of tabs in konversation?
[09:22] <cs178_> hawk_: besides how to use it, no
[09:23] <hawk_> dam
[09:23] <cs178_> got a problem with it?
[09:23] <hawk_> it crashed on me for some resion today and now it wont load
[09:23] <stdin> !tr | hakanceng
[09:23] <ubotu> hakanceng: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:24] <stdin> hawk_: try running it from the command line to see what errors come up
[09:24] <hawk_> i was installing windows and it was trying to find drivers for the video card
[09:25] <cs178_> hawk_: or maybe a problem with a virtual pc inside that loads automatically
[09:25] <bill__k> i'm having a hard time finding info on how to slow down my usb razer diamondback mouse.  all the sliders are left (in keyboard & mouse prefs)
[09:25] <hawk_> i cant run anything right now i am encodeing a dvd so if my pc crash i will lose all of my work
[09:26] <philfo> I typed in wine in konsole & just got a 3 line list
[09:26] <hawk_> have you configered wine yet
[09:26] <philfo> no
[09:26] <philfo> how too that?
[09:26] <hawk_> type in winecfg
[09:26] <philfo> how to DO that, sorry
[09:26] <philfo> thanks again
[09:27] <hawk_> i am a big wine fan did lots of testing with it
[09:27] <hawk_> and windows virus
[09:27] <philfo> "warning 3d driver claims to not suppost visual 0x4b"
[09:28] <philfo> support, still can't spell tonight
[09:28] <hawk_> philfo np
[09:28] <philfo> anything up with that warning that keeps coming up?
[09:29] <philfo> I think I'm going to buy a new graphics card.  this ATI has been nothing but a headache for 5 days
[09:29] <hawk_> what is the graphics card
[09:29] <sinkorswim> I switched from gnome to kde by installing the kubuntu-desktop package but now it's taking > 30 secs for my browser to resolve hostnames
[09:29] <hawk_> and did you type in winecfg by it self
[09:29] <philfo> what is the best or most stable version of vindoze for wine to emulate?
[09:29] <philfo> yes I did
[09:30] <sinkorswim> it was the same connecting to freenode, it took much longer than usual
[09:30] <stdin> philfo: probably 2000 (or 98)
[09:30] <philfo> 2000 is the default, I'll just use that one.
[09:31] <hawk_> it will not run in wine
[09:31] <stdin> sinkorswim: try disabling IPv6
[09:31] <stdin> !ipv6
[09:31] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:31] <hawk_> sorry wrong thing
[09:31] <philfo> i'm setting it up to calibrate my monitor color profile.  I'd assume that I have to tell my profiler that I'm using win2000 as well then?
[09:31] <bott> i need help locating a flash player for kubuntu 6.10 (fully upgraded) amd64 arch
[09:31] <hawk_> i would say xp is the best becouse every thing know days runs in xp
[09:32] <hawk_> and there are more dlls and emultion of xp the 2000 becouse xp is more populer
[09:32] <philfo> gotcha. so perhaps xp is better?
[09:32] <hawk_> lol
[09:33] <philfo> ha ha ha ha
[09:33] <philfo> I can throw my HD out the window & wine would be emulating Vista then.
[09:34] <Chemicalvamp> i still cannot BELIEVE http://www.google.com/tisp/install.html is REAL...
[09:34] <hawk_> oh yes, be carefull of what you run in wine i did a paper few months ago on virus affection linux through wine and i did some testing and the out come is not good
[09:36] <hawk_> wow thats funny is a hack
[09:36] <Chemicalvamp> click the link to soo how google can tun your crapper into free internet
[09:37] <Chemicalvamp> anybody know of a place to find a flash player for kubuntu 6.10 (upgraded) with amd64 arch??
[09:37] <hawk_> !flashpayer
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashpayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <hawk_> !flashplayer
[09:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:38] <philfo> wine is STILL closing itself after a long period of not starting.
[09:38] <philfo> this is not cool
[09:39] <hawk_> no things not work are hardly cool
[09:39] <hawk_> lol
[09:40] <philfo> is there some other thing I'm missing?
[09:40] <stdin> Chemicalvamp: flash doesn't work on amd64 (blame adobe), but you can follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:40] <philfo> it's just sitting for a bit then closing.
[09:40] <philfo> how do I run wine with a command line?
[09:41] <hawk_> see if your problem matches any of these have fun http://bugs.winehq.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Bug+Number
[09:41] <stdin> philfo: what do you mean?
[09:42] <philfo> when I type in "wine" in konsole, i get a little menu of stuff, no opening app
[09:42] <hawk_> nvm, what are you trying to run
[09:43] <stdin> philfo: you start an app wilth "wine app.exe"
[09:43] <hawk_> ok go into a directory where there is a windows exe and type in wine app.exe
[09:43] <hawk_> thank you stdin
[09:43] <philfo> ah, so I have to have the application already installed...
[09:43] <hawk_> yes
[09:44] <philfo> well maybe I should have read instructions.
[09:44] <stdin> philfo: or "wine C:\\Program\ Files\\My\ App\\app.exe"
[09:44] <ledemente> Anyone know a MySpace channel?
[09:44] <philfo> *sheepish*
[09:44] <philfo> gotcha.
[09:44] <Chemicalvamp> ok i found the flash player stuff on adept in multiverse.. but if i request install, it says (break) install... any ideas?
[09:44] <stdin> philfo: or "wine "C:\Program File\App\app.exe" ":p
[09:44] <hawk_> stdin: once agin you beat me to the chase
[09:44] <philfo> I thought we opened inside wine.
[09:45] <philfo> thanks, thanks.  this has been the most educational linux chat so far for me.
[09:45] <stdin> philfo: you can use "winebrowser", which is like windows "explorer"
[09:45] <hawk_> philfo i think thats how it use to be but not anymore
[09:45] <philfo> I screwed some stuff up, then I fixed it.  and I learned WHY
[09:45] <philfo> well, it's almost 4am so i'm off to bed.
[09:45] <hawk_> lol
[09:46] <philfo> more wine tomorrow
[09:46] <hawk_> philfo nice meeting you bye
[09:46] <philfo> thanks all.
[09:46] <Chemicalvamp> i heard wine blows, and virtualbox is way better
[09:46] <hawk_> they are two diffrent things
[09:46] <philfo> I don't care as long as I get my monitor calibrated.
[09:46] <stdin> Chemicalvamp: Wine Is Not an Emulator (WINE)
[09:46] <Chemicalvamp> i dk the differnce im a noob, whats (break) install mean in adept
[09:47] <hawk_> it means that the file is not working right now on the server
[09:48] <Chemicalvamp> no (flash player) like gnash klash will instal normaly.. what to do
[09:48] <hawk_> Chemicalvamp: VB you have to install windows and run windows total seppret from linux but with wine adds a lay of emulation to linux so that program can run in linux
[09:48] <Chemicalvamp> and thas what !flashplayer says
[09:49] <Chemicalvamp> hawk: ok i see
[09:49] <hawk_> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOX
[09:49] <hawk_> there is flash downlaod it and install it by hand
[09:49] <Chemicalvamp> works on amd64?
[09:49] <hawk_> i dont know
[09:50] <hawk_> stdin dos flashwork on amd64
[09:50] <stdin> hawk_: short answer is no
[09:50] <hawk_> Chemicalvamp: nop it dos not work
[09:50] <stdin> hawk_: you can do it, but you need to install the 32bit version of firefox
[09:50] <stdin> Chemicalvamp: ^^
[09:51] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:51] <Chemicalvamp> ok english and links? hehe
[09:51] <stdin> link is there ^
[09:51] <Chemicalvamp> schweet
[09:51] <hawk_> stdin:thanks i had no idea
[09:52] <hawk_> stdin: so what you do when your not helping noobs like me
[09:52] <stdin> there really is no point for a desktop user to install the 64bit version of Linux
[09:52] <stdin> hawk_: work my backside off :p
[09:52] <hawk_> lol
[09:53] <hawk_> encoding takes so long
[09:54] <Chemicalvamp> is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13334/ a problem?
[09:54] <Chemicalvamp> <-- amd64 laptop
[09:55] <hawk_> i dont know this one
[09:55] <Chemicalvamp> *cries
[09:55] <hawk_> ask stdin
[09:56] <hawk_> stdin: help
[09:56] <Chemicalvamp> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13334/ is this gonna work?
[09:56] <stdin> Chemicalvamp: just leave out the ia32-libs-gtk package, seems that ia32-libs replaces it now
[09:56] <Chemicalvamp> cool
[09:57] <hawk_> dos photoshop run in linux yet
[09:57] <stdin> hawk_: no
[09:57] <hawk_> how about wine
[09:57] <stdin> hawk_: maybe*
[09:57] <hawk_> nvm i will loke it up
[09:57] <stdin> hawk_: never tried, I just use the gimp
[09:58] <hawk_> is gimp as good as photoshop
[09:59] <stdin> hawk_: no, not quite, but it has most of the features of it. just not some of the more advanced ones
[09:59] <hawk_> cool ok
[10:02] <hawk_> got to love TrueCrypt
[10:02] <double> salut ya des francais ?
[10:03] <stdin> !fr | double
[10:03] <ubotu> double: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:03] <double> oki thx :)
[10:03] <double> bye bye :)
[10:04] <hawk_> dos shockwave work in linux yet
[10:05] <stdin> hawk_: nope, adobe won't release it for linux
[10:05] <hawk_> dam
[10:06] <hawk_> did you here about adobes apolo program
[10:06] <stdin> huh? no
[10:07] <hawk_> well it is a cross platform framwork for the internet
[10:07] <hawk_> like jave but internet based
[10:08] <Danker> On which day new ubuntu will be released?
[10:08] <stdin> !fesity
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <stdin> !feisty
[10:08] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released at 0:00 UTC on April, 1
[10:08] <hawk_> java
[10:08] <stdin> helps if you spell it
[10:08] <hawk_> lol
[10:09] <hawk_> so do you have feisty running
[10:10] <stdin> yeah, have since work started on ti
[10:10] <stdin> *it
[10:10] <hawk_> do you like it
[10:10] <stdin> yeah, there has been some progress :)
[10:10] <stdin> seems faster too
[10:10] <hawk_> cool
[10:10] <Martin_> hi, can somebody help? Seven11 is d-lined and he don't know why. Any chance to get him in again?
[10:11] <hawk_> i cant wait for kde 4
[10:11] <stdin> hawk_: it's going to be a while for that, but yeah, me either :P
[10:11] <stdin> Martin_: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[10:12] <hawk_> so have the solved the problem with beryl and NV drivers
[10:12] <Martin_> thanks
[10:12] <tmbg> sigh. I am RUINED. I got even youtube flash movies working :(
[10:13] <stdin> hawk_: what problem is that?
[10:13] <tmbg> now I'm doomed to waste tons of time. this link was what did it for me. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:13] <hawk_> the border where missing on all the windows
[10:13] <stdin> tmbg: you need flash 9 for youtube
[10:14] <stdin> hawk_: that with "nv" or "nvidia" driver?
[10:14] <tmbg> yes. I have the 32 bit firefox with a 32 bit flash9 plugin (the proprietary one) on a 64 bit machine.
[10:14] <hawk_> stdin: yes
[10:14] <stdin> hawk_: no :p which one
[10:14] <hawk_> nvidia
[10:15] <stdin> hawk_: well the nvidia driver in feisty is version 9755, and that one has aiglx built in, so it should work better
[10:15] <hawk_> stdin the last time i tryed using beryl i lost all my borders for my windows and could not do any thing
[10:16] <stdin> hawk_: sounds like beryl didn't start then
[10:16] <Chemicalvamp> how do i install a tar.gz
[10:16] <CarinArr> anyone using beryl in feisty around?
[10:17] <stdin> !tar.gz | Chemicalvamp
[10:17] <ubotu> Chemicalvamp: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:17] <stdin> CarinArr: better place to ask in #ubuntu+1 the feisty support channel
[10:17] <Chemicalvamp> i have it extracted, how do install it?
[10:18] <hawk_> is there a .pl file in there
[10:18] <stdin> Chemicalvamp: depends what it is, it's like asking "how do I install a .zip file" in windows
[10:18] <CarinArr> stdin: i already did, without much result, so thought i'd ask here as i know some people around here are also using feisty
[10:19] <Chemicalvamp> pango-1.16.1.tar.gz extracted to pango-1.16.1, how would i install it from there
[10:19] <stdin> CarinArr: I haven't tried beryl in a while, last time I did was during the Xorg upgrade to v7.2 and it wasn't nice :P but it's supposed to work now
[10:19] <stdin> Chemicalvamp: why are you trying to install that??
[10:19] <CarinArr> it worked fantastically til two days ago, with the new kde updates and stuff it now crashes x
[10:20] <CarinArr> ;)
[10:20] <Chemicalvamp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:20] <Chemicalvamp> i dont know what i am doing >.<
[10:20] <Chemicalvamp> trying to follow a how-to
[10:20] <CarinArr> Chemicalvamp: there'll probably be a readme or install file in that archive that you unzipped
[10:21] <stdin> Chemicalvamp: and where on that page does it say to download the pango source ?
[10:22] <Chemicalvamp> Next we must setup some minor font details for the environment. Create the environment variable file for pango32 and open it for editing:
[10:22] <stdin> Chemicalvamp: yes, I see that, but I don't see the part "now we must download and compile pango source"
[10:23] <noob> :)
[10:23] <noob> that answer that one?
[10:24] <stdin> where it says: "gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc" just do "kdesu kate /etc/pango32/pangorc"
[10:24] <stdin> and I'll edit that guide to say that
[10:25] <slipknot> IDENTIFY bonny1
[10:25] <stdin> slipknot: new password time :P
[10:26] <chemicalvamp> lol
[10:26] <chemicalvamp> ok soo it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13336/ a whole bunch of times
[10:27] <stdin> chemicalvamp: that's nothing to worry about, ignore it
[10:28] <slipknot> ?
[10:28] <chemicalvamp> bonny1 thats what hehe
[10:28] <stdin> [09:25]  <slipknot> IDENTIFY bonny1
[10:29] <slipknot> lol i'm new
[10:29] <chemicalvamp> ok so do that, and paste the script, and continue the how-to?
[10:29] <chemicalvamp> u need to do /msh nickserver identify
[10:29] <chemicalvamp> ./msg even!
[10:29] <slipknot> i have 1 problem i cant register in #ubuntu-it
[10:31] <stdin> chemicalvamp: reload the page, I added the Kubuntu commands
[10:31] <slipknot> Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[10:31] <chemicalvamp> u da man
[10:31] <slipknot> i can't register in that server
[10:32] <stdin> slipknot: you type "/msg nickserv IDENTIFY (Your Password)"
[10:32] <slipknot> i have type more and more this command...
[10:32] <stdin> slipknot: if you don't have a pasword setup, then register with freenode
[10:32] <stdin> !register
[10:32] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:34] <chemicalvamp> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13337/
[10:34] <stdin> chemicalvamp: did you use kdesu ?
[10:34] <chemicalvamp> yeah i copy and pasted it
[10:35] <stdin> chemicalvamp: hmm, try again, it should work
[10:36] <chemicalvamp> same
[10:37] <stdin> chemicalvamp: try doing this first "sudo mkdir -p /etc/pango32/"
[10:39] <chemicalvamp> worked :)
[10:40] <chemicalvamp> kdesu kate /usr/local/bin/firefox32 & (did not open kate..
[10:41] <chemicalvamp> soo close to done.. hmm
[10:42] <stdin> chemicalvamp: is kate still open?
[10:43] <chemicalvamp> no
[10:43] <chemicalvamp> if it is, i dont see it
[10:43] <stdin> chemicalvamp: try "sudo killall kate" then try "kdesu kate /usr/local/bin/firefox32 &" again
[10:44] <chemicalvamp> kate: no process killed
[10:44] <chemicalvamp> BUT it did work
[10:44] <chemicalvamp> spoke too soon i guess hehe
[10:45] <stdin> chemicalvamp: do you have universe enabled ?
[10:45] <chemicalvamp> yes
[10:45] <stdin> chemicalvamp: ia32-libs-gtk should be in there
[10:45] <chemicalvamp> it is required?
[10:46] <stdin> chemicalvamp: I think it is for pango
[10:46] <chemicalvamp> will i need it for this?
[10:46] <stdin> yeah, firefox needs pango
[10:47] <chemicalvamp> >.< havent installed firefox yet lol
[10:48] <chemicalvamp> so i extracted the tar to folder, what command do i run on it?
[10:49] <chemicalvamp> or firefox.bin?
[10:50] <stdin> no, firefox is installed, you don't need to run an installer or anything
[10:50] <chemicalvamp> dont see it in my internet folder
[10:51] <stdin> chemicalvamp: doesn't matter, you can add that later
[10:51] <chemicalvamp> k
[10:51] <chemicalvamp> so just firefox32 &?
[10:52] <stdin> chemicalvamp: yeah, but you need ia32-libs-gtk apparently
[10:52] <chemicalvamp> dl it already 75%
[10:52] <stdin> chemicalvamp: so it's installing ?
[10:52] <chemicalvamp> yup
[10:52] <stdin> just wait for that the
[10:53] <chemicalvamp> done
[10:54] <chemicalvamp> how do i make a shortcut of firefox32 & and do i need the firefox.tar or extracted foler anymore?
[10:55] <stdin> chemicalvamp: you don't need that tar file anymore, and to make a link to it, just right click the KMenu and choose Menu Editor, you can then put a shortcut in internet
[10:58] <chemicalvamp> stdin: your forgettin im a newbie, how would i do that.. im in menu editor internet folder
[10:58] <chemicalvamp> nvm
[10:59] <chemicalvamp> i think i understand
[10:59] <stdin> chemicalvamp: file -> New item
[11:00] <chemicalvamp> work path necissary?
[11:00] <stdin> chemicalvamp: no
[11:02] <chemicalvamp> tested it and the flash movie has an icon and says to click it to download plugin
[11:03] <stdin> chemicalvamp: did you do Step 3 yet?
[11:03] <chemicalvamp> ack i forgot that
[11:05] <chemicalvamp> stdin: sparc or x86?
[11:05] <stdin> chemicalvamp: x86
[11:08] <Goliath23> hi
[11:08] <stdin> !hi
[11:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:08] <Goliath23> it seems my dnsmasq is broken. since the last upgraded packages in feisty
[11:09] <stdin> Goliath23: for feisty support/questions use #ubuntu+1
[11:09] <Goliath23> I used wireshark to see if the pc receives a dhcp request (and it does on eth2, which is configured to be an interface dnsmasq listens on)
[11:09] <Goliath23> oh, okay
[11:13] <jay> greetings
[11:13] <senwei_> does anyone know the apt-get problem?
[11:13] <stdin> what apt-get problem?
[11:17] <sinkorswim> does anyone know how I can get back the "save view settings per forlder" option under Settings in konqueror?
[11:18] <chemicalvamp> stdin: i have the jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin but chmod +x jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin says chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[11:18] <dennis_> senwei_ apt-get instead of aptitude?
[11:19] <stdin> chemicalvamp: where did you download it to?
[11:19] <chemicalvamp> edsktop
[11:20] <chemicalvamp> cant open terminalon it
[11:20] <stdin> chemicalvamp: then " chmod +x Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin"
[11:20] <senwei_> dennis_   like this:Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[11:21] <dennis_> senwei_ never heard of it sry
[11:22] <chemicalvamp> great, man eula's are kind of painfull in terminal
[11:22] <stdin> senwei_: wild guess, make sure you haven't run out of disk space
[11:22] <stdin> chemicalvamp: use the space bar to skip a page at a time
[11:23] <senwei_> stdinof course,it isn't  the problem
[11:24] <chemicalvamp> sudo mv ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10 /usr/local/java32 says mv: cannot stat `/home/bott/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10': No such file or directory
[11:24] <bill__k> stdin: cpp programmer?
[11:24] <stdin> bill__k: heh, I'm only just learning python so, no :p
[11:24] <enry> hi
[11:25] <sonoftheclayr> hey enry
[11:25] <stdin> chemicalvamp: use the right filename "jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin" and I'll fix the guide (again)
[11:26] <chemicalvamp> glad im helping you help others xD
[11:26] <manu_> i've here an aiptek webcam, i have seen in the net that it should work with spca5xx well, and that this driver is allready in edgy included, now my question is how to "enable" the cam and see a image, lsusb shows the camera
[11:26] <PLC> Hi'
[11:26] <stdin> chemicalvamp: what does "ls /home/bott/Desktop/jre*" show?
[11:28] <tarelerulz> how do you mount iso?
[11:28] <stdin> !iso | tarelerulz
[11:28] <ubotu> tarelerulz: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:28] <tarelerulz> I was downloading movie that is why I asked
[11:29] <tarelerulz> it is in iso format so I wanted to mount is and watch the movie
[11:29] <chemicalvamp> stdin: ls: /home/bott/Desktop/jre*: No such file or directory
[11:30] <PLC> I'm french , i try to write ....
[11:30] <PLC> :p
[11:30] <stdin> !fr
[11:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:30] <stdin> chemicalvamp: did you run the "~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin" command ?
[11:31] <PLC> thanks :)
[11:31] <chemicalvamp> stdin: no, i didnt see it needed to be done
[11:31] <stdin> chemicalvamp: well that's what was wrong then :p
[11:32] <chemicalvamp> changing guide again?
[11:32] <stdin> yep :P
[11:32] <chemicalvamp> well i think it will be perfect after all this xD
[11:33] <tarelerulz> don't you need mount point for the iso
[11:33] <chemicalvamp> stdin: usr/local/firefox32/plugins/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin ?
[11:34] <chemicalvamp> or is it too late?
[11:34] <adydas> you know when u insert a digital camera, and it asks what to do and you select open in new window and tick dont ask me this again, how do you change what you selected aka get it to ask you again...
[11:34] <stdin> tarelerulz: "sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> " <-- see the "<mountpouint>" ?
[11:35] <tarelerulz> sorry
[11:35] <chemicalvamp> err i mean /usr/local/java32/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin
[11:35] <stdin> chemicalvamp: ahh, move it back :P "sudo mv /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin ~/Desktop"
[11:36] <adydas> anyone?
[11:37] <chemicalvamp> sudo mv /usr/local/java32/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin ~/Desktop
[11:37] <carl_> hi
[11:37] <chemicalvamp> well that didnt work either
[11:38] <lonely> whoa
[11:39] <stdin> chemicalvamp: huh, what does "ls  /usr/local/java32/" show?
[11:39] <chemicalvamp> ls: /usr/local/java32/: Not a directory
[11:40] <leiar> I can't get recording audio to work not in audacity nor in xvidcap. Anybody?
[11:41] <carl_> I tried to connect my Samsung z400 to kubuntu, using usb cable. My sister's Sony Ericsson K610i instantly came up as a usb flash-device, but my phone does not. The drivers that start are "drivers/usb/serial/visor.c: USB HandSpring Visor / Palm OS driver", but I cannot find my phone anywhere
[11:41] <carl_> any ideas?
[11:42] <chemicalvamp> "ls /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/" shows libflashplayer.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so  libnullplugin.so
[11:42] <stdin> chemicalvamp: where did you move jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin to?
[11:43] <dbglt> hey guys, I'm trying to setup my laptop with an external monitor: I want the external monitor to activate when it is plugged into the laptop (and the laptop screen to turn off an external monitor is plugged in), and vice versa
[11:43] <dbglt> any idea how to do this?
[11:43] <dbglt> (automatically change screens and screen resolution)
[11:43] <leiar> any experts on audio in kubuntu, I'm not able to record my voice
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> stdin: wait i did chmod +x jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin then ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin then sudo mv ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin /usr/local/java32
[11:45] <stdin> chemicalvamp: ahh, try "sudo mv /usr/local/java32 ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin"
[11:46] <chemicalvamp> there we go
[11:46] <chemicalvamp> now ~/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin ?
[11:47] <stdin> yep
[11:47] <hansen> hi. how mature is compiz etc. supposed to be by now (edgy) ?
[11:47] <chemicalvamp> hey wait i did do this didnt i? i remember already doing this eual
[11:47] <hansen> I run compiz + kde-window-decorator and I do get wobbly transparent windows and all, but it doesn't seem to be totally stable
[11:47] <chemicalvamp> eula*
[11:47] <tarelerulz>  Well mounting the iso of movie is easy find out what audio tracks are english haha
[11:48] <stdin> hansen: not very, it's still quite new and it all depends on your hardware and package versions
[11:48] <stdin> chemicalvamp: when it's done, you should have a new folder on the desktop
[11:48] <chemicalvamp> replace jre1.5.0_10/bin/java? [y] es, [n] o, [A] ll, [N] one, [r] ename:
[11:48] <hansen> it locked up on me a few times, and for some reason the connect dialog in konversation is totally dead with compiz -- other apps seem to work OK
[11:49] <stdin> chemicalvamp: try A
[11:49] <chemicalvamp> done
[11:49] <hansen> dist is edgy/amd64 and gfx is nvidia quadro fx 3500
[11:50] <hansen> moving windows around etc. is very snappy, but performance when resizing windows is bad
[11:50] <hansen> with newest nvidia drivers of course
[11:53] <hugeta> how to intall dual boot in one hardddisk
[11:53] <hugeta> i have already ubuntu system on my notebook
[11:54] <chemicalvamp> stdin: no folder, all i have is jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin and RealPlayer10GOLD.bin (was continuing the guide)
[11:54] <stdin> chemicalvamp: do: find ~ -type d -iname "jre*"
[11:56] <tarelerulz> I understand how you mount iso so you can look in it ,but How would you mount is so your system see it as dvd or cd ?
[11:56] <chemicalvamp> stdin: i just got a >
[11:57] <stdin> chemicalvamp: make sure you put both the quotes in, press Ctrl-C to get back to the prompt
[11:58] <stdin> tarelerulz: I'd use VLC to just read the iso file directly and play it
[11:58] <stdin> !vlc
[11:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:58] <stdin> !info vlc
[11:58] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[11:58] <chemicalvamp> stdin: /home/bott/jre1.5.0_10
[11:58] <stdin> chemicalvamp: hmm, ok. well then replace "~/Desktop/jre1.5.0_10" with "~/jre1.5.0_10"
[11:58] <tarelerulz> thanks stdin
[11:59] <chemicalvamp> how do i kill kaffeine? i put in an audio cd and its not workin
[11:59] <hnsn> stdin: hi
[11:59] <stdin> chemicalvamp: you can press Ctrl-Alt-Esc and click on the window
[11:59] <stdin> hnsn: hi
[12:00] <chemicalvamp> there is no window
[12:01] <stdin> chemicalvamp: ok then, "killall kaffeine" in konsole
[12:02] <chemicalvamp> stdin: replace "~/Desktop/jre1.5.0_10" with "~/jre1.5.0_10" shows replace "~/Desktop/jre1.5.0_10" with "~/jre1.5.0_10"
[12:02] <chemicalvamp> err
[12:02] <chemicalvamp> bash: replace: command not found
[12:02] <tarelerulz> when you say play the iso directly you mean look inside it and play teh vob or do see it as dvd
[12:03] <leiar> I am not able to record voice in audacity neither in xvideocap
[12:03] <root__> pls I have a problem... I mount my Windows partition, and now, I cant access it neither from linux, nor from windows... I cant run chdisk tools on it :(
[12:03] <stdin> chemicalvamp: no, I meant type ~/jre1.5.0_10 instead of ~/Desktop/jre1.5.0_10 with the mv command
[12:03] <stdin> tarelerulz: no, you just tell it to play the ISO file, without mounting it
[12:04] <chemicalvamp> stdin: ohhh so sudo mv ~/jre-1_5_0_10 /usr/local/java32
[12:04] <stdin> chemicalvamp: yeah
[12:06] <stdin> chemicalvamp: fixed the guide again :P
[12:06] <chemicalvamp> stdin: sudo mv ~/jre1.5.0_10 /usr/local/java32 (if you needed to put it in the guide)
[12:06] <stdin> done, and done :P
[12:07] <chemicalvamp> xD so is it all fixed and ready? or do i need to repeat everything from that point
[12:07] <stdin> no
[12:07] <chemicalvamp> what about jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i586.bin
[12:07] <stdin> delete it if you want
[12:08] <root__> pls.... help me :(
[12:09] <chemicalvamp> stdin: just so you know "sudo mv ~/jre-1_5_0_10 /usr/local/java32" didnt work, sudo mv ~/jre1.5.0_10 /usr/local/java32 did though
[12:10] <stdin> chemicalvamp: huh? did you use quotes the 1st time?
[12:10] <chemicalvamp> nope
[12:10] <chemicalvamp> was quoting the guide
[12:10] <dazza_> hi, my ps2 keyboard doesn't work in the edgy installer. is this a common issue?
[12:10] <tmbg_> he took out the dash
[12:11] <stdin> ahh
[12:11] <chemicalvamp> the folder name is jre1.5.0_10 not jre-1_5_0_10
[12:12] <tmbg_> dazza_, a guy earlier had that issue, changed something in his bios to fix it
[12:12] <dazza_> tmbg_: ok thanks, i'll try that...
[12:12] <leiar> I am not able to record voice. Anybody who can help me, pls
[12:12] <stdin> chemicalvamp: if you're installing RealPlayer too, refresh for those fixes
[12:13] <chemicalvamp> k ^.^
[12:14] <stdin> ooh, just noticed the time, I gotta go to work (yes, work on a SUNDAY!!!)
[12:14] <leiar> j/ #audio
[12:14] <stdin> chemicalvamp: you should be ok now
[12:14] <tarelerulz> Thanks for telling me about vlc
[12:15] <chemicalvamp> lemme test it on youtube
[12:15] <stdin> vlc is a great app, even tho it's GTK
[12:15] <leiar> I don't know what vlc is. SHould I?
[12:15] <stdin> !info vlc
[12:15] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[12:15] <chemicalvamp> stdin: Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player.
[12:16] <chemicalvamp> do i need to reboot or anything like that?
[12:16] <tarelerulz> Now all I need to get down how to play all the sub formats and I am good
[12:16] <stdin> chemicalvamp: no, shouldn't have to
[12:16] <leiar> I use mplayer. What is a streamer?
[12:18] <mrigns> leiar: u can stream media over the network
[12:18] <dazza_> tmbg_: i changed a setting but there was no effect, I don't suppose you remember what this person changed?
[12:19] <tarelerulz> that I must say is hot  streaming media . I do it all the time I have one computer that download it and I play it on the other
[12:23] <dazza_> Admiral_Chicago: sorry, bad drag'n'drop
[12:26] <von> hi.. i've got 1 internal sound card and 1 external sound card.. how do i make kubuntu to default my sounds from the external one?
[12:26] <von> seems like its onyl playing sound from the internal sound card port
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[12:27] <von> 02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> I am helping a buddy setting up kubuntu...
[12:27] <von> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 04)
[12:27] <von> these 2
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> We are just pondering about the partitioning strategy
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> especially about swap, he's got 1.5 GB physical RAM, does he need swap at all? Mine hardly gets used (that is on Gentoo though)
[12:28] <von> !swap
[12:28] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[12:28] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: unlikely.  could be helpful, though
[12:28] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: i'd say, go with a gig of swap or so. more if he intends to use hibernation.
[12:29] <von> hi.. i've got 1 internal sound card and 1 external sound card.. how do i make kubuntu to default my sounds from the external sound card?
[12:29] <von> i mean
[12:29] <von> pci sound card instead of the on board sound card
[12:29] <MilhousePunkRock> is it a myth that using swap makes the system slower if you have enough physical ram, since HDD is much slower that RAM?
[12:29] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: yes. it is.
[12:30] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: OK. So if he wants to hibernate to swap, that would be physical RAM plus video RAM plus a little on top?
[12:30] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: or.. it depends. you can adjust the kernels swappiness with the numbers in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[12:31] <eilker> !raid
[12:31] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:31] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: i've read somewhere that 1.5 times the size of ram is good for hibernation, i can't confirm that though since i don't use hibernation.
[12:31] <waylandbill> von: change the device listed in the arts configuration dialog (system settings or kcontrol)
[12:32] <von> i'm in there but
[12:32] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: I do, on my laptop, IIRC my swap there is twice my ram
[12:33] <von> select the audio device = autodetect, oos, nas, enlighten sound daemon etc
[12:33] <von> don't have my devices
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> but the video ram gets written there too, IIRC
[12:33] <waylandbill> von: that's the audio driver, not the device
[12:33] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: ok. i'm not up2date on how it works. sounds like you are :)
[12:33] <von> oh there's a Override device location
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> von: I guess you will need to change the order of the soundcards in alsaconfig
[12:33] <waylandbill> von: override
[12:33] <von> but it requires me to fill in the field
[12:34] <von> so i put /dev/audio2 ?
[12:34] <waylandbill> von: /dev/dsp1
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: So, he's got 1.5 gig of ram and a 128 MB video card, so 2 GB should be good enough
[12:34] <von> root@von:~# ls /dev/dsp -l
[12:34] <von> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-04-01 23:39 /dev/dsp
[12:34] <von> i only have 1 dsp
[12:35] <von> but i got 3 mixers
[12:35] <von> and 2 audios
[12:35] <von> weird?
[12:35] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: i'd think so, yes.
[12:35] <von> mixer mixer1 mixer 2 audio audio2 and dsp only
[12:35] <von> sorry i got dsp2
[12:36] <waylandbill> that would've been ls -l /dev/dsp*  :-)
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> what about the old school partitioning strategy of: let's say 1 GB for /boot (though that is huge already), about 30 GB for / (should be more than big enough too, right?) and the rest for /home ??
[12:37] <von> i don't have dsp1 .. only dsp and dsp2
[12:37] <Vincent_k> I have 10GB /  and 1,5GB for swap (1GB ram) and the rest for /home
[12:38] <waylandbill> von: that's ok. put dsp2
[12:38] <waylandbill> since the default is dsp, my super powers of deduction say dsp2. :-)
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> so a seperate /boot is old-fashioned, Vincent_k? Including uber geekness with unmounting after boot...
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> What could the maximum size of / be, assuming you really install a lot of stuff?
[12:41] <Vincent_k> I think it might be unessesary
[12:42] <Vincent_k> but I'm no expert
[12:42] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: without home on there? 20GB could be super plenty for / space.
[12:42] <Vincent_k> I've always used this setup though (linux user for aprox 6 yrs)
[12:43] <von> it doesn't work
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: Thanks, that sounds like a plan... So we'll not use a seperate /boot
[12:43] <Vincent_k> Ive never even been close to run out of space with 10GB for / running kde
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> 2 GB swap, 20 GB / and rest /home
[12:43] <von> could it be audio2?
[12:44] <waylandbill> von: maybe. don't know
[12:44] <waylandbill> is that a symbolic link to dsp2 though?
[12:44] <von> something is starnge.. i just can't hear anything
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> mrigns: Oh, a seperate /var, that's a first
[12:45] <waylandbill> von: guess it isn't a symbolic link... can't hurt to try I guess
[12:45] <mrigns> MilhousePunkRock: its usefull though
[12:46] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: unix servers tended to always have seperate /var. Usually on another drive.
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> mrigns: It sure sounds so, but is it something a complete newbie would need?
[12:46] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: nah
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> And why is noone recommending the seperate /boot? ;-)
[12:47] <von> but is it correct to put inside the override?
[12:47] <von> hm
[12:47] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: /boot was to get around bios limitations.
[12:47] <von> ahh i guess i'll just disable it from the bios
[12:47] <Vincent_k> When I ran gentoo I had separate /boot witch where unmounted after boot
[12:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Anything he has to take care of considering he will install kubuntu on a physically seperate drive to his Windows, which he wants to dual boot with?
[12:47] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: generally speaking it's not needed in most cases now.
[12:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Vincent_k: Exactly that... /me is running Gentoo on this machine, they still recommend it...
[12:48] <von> what's the command in terminal to test the /dev/audio ? i remembered its like random or something
[12:48] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: / and /home is sufficient and is what I use.
[12:48] <von> how to type in and play something
[12:49] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: IIRC I dont even have a seperate / on my kubuntu...
[12:49] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: you don't need to. I did it in case I need to wipe the / clean and install again and not lose my /home data
[12:50] <MilhousePunkRock> most of my data is on a seperate partition I share with gentoo and which gets mounted to ~/data
[12:51] <MilhousePunkRock> At least that was the plan, I think I never finished it...
[12:53] <MilhousePunkRock> He is partitioning now, I will check back if any further questions appear. BTW, I recommended to go for the Feisty Beta already, since it works fine for me, shouldn't be a problem, right?
[12:53] <Ind[y] > Hello. How can I set "sudo" to prompt for the root password?
[12:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Ind[y] : You have a user root?
[12:53] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: i was running it, but ksynaptic was not working, so went back to edgy. I hate the touch pad and usually have it disabled.
[12:54] <filemover> im just compiling the newest ktorrent from source becuase it has better download rates and im getting linking errors for the Xlibs and for Qt im just wondering if anyone knows the default locations for these libs and headers and what flags to pass to configure. It would seem that i already have Xlibs and qt installed
[12:54] <Ind[y] > MilhousePunkRock: yes
[12:54] <waylandbill> Ind[y] : the point of sudo is to eliminate needing to use a root password.
[12:54] <Ind[y] > waylandbill: OK. I want to do it though. How can I?
[12:54] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: Luckily I run Kubuntu on an older ThinkPad, only a trackpoint there... My buddy is setting up a desktop anyway
[12:54] <waylandbill> Ind[y] : you'd use su
[12:54] <SSJ_GZ> filemover: You need the -dev packages for each of Qt and X installed.
[12:54] <waylandbill> not sudo
[12:54] <waylandbill> !root
[12:54] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:55] <filemover> great
[12:55] <filemover> thnks
[12:55] <filemover> i think ive got em
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Ind[y] : "sudo su -"
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> makes you login as root
[12:55] <filemover> i installed kdevelop and got Qt along with it
[12:55] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: yeah. feisty beta is okay.
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Or rather remain super user until you log out
[12:55] <waylandbill> just su
[12:56] <SSJ_GZ> filemover: sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent should do the trick.
[12:56] <filemover> and i installed all the x.org dev stuff as well
[12:56] <waylandbill> no sudo before it.  su or su -
[12:56] <filemover> ok
[12:56] <filemover> but its not the version i want
[12:56] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: See, I never use that... ;-)
[12:57] <filemover> the one in the repositries is great but theyve just inproved the latest one out of sight
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: By the way, I swore to myself to wait at least until the RC since the Edgy beta gave me so many problems... But I just couldn't...
[12:57] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: nor do I. Enabling root is a security risk and sudo works just fine.
[12:57] <filemover> the download limmits are way up there and steady not like b4
[12:57] <SSJ_GZ> filemover: That just grabs the dependencies necessary for building ktorrent.   Generally, these don't change much between releases.
[12:57] <filemover> ok
[12:57] <filemover> gotcha
[12:58] <filemover> thnx
[12:58] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: it's like a new toy. Just can't wait. :-)
[12:58] <SSJ_GZ> filemover: np =)
[12:58] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: I guess that's why the ability to su is pretty undocumented...
[12:59] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: On top of that, some stuff does not really work for me yet. But I've got two weeks off now and fixing all that will be a pleasant thing to do... :-D
[01:00] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: two weeks off. that's too nice.
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> It's not really off, I still have to write the journals for the past few classes (/me is a student of biology)
[01:02] <waylandbill> I write windows software
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Who forced you to? ;-)
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> j/k, I am pretty sure you could hardly make a living from writing FOSS
[01:03] <von> !nivida
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nivida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <von> !nividia
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nividia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <von> !nvidia
[01:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:03] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: wrote windows software long before I used linux.
[01:04] <MilhousePunkRock> i wish i could code at all, computional biology seems to be "the thing" for a geeky biologist...
[01:04] <sorush20> !fiesty
[01:04] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released at 0:00 UTC on April, 1
[01:05] <Filthpig> I wanna live, I wanna live to see your body beat
[01:06] <MilhousePunkRock> How can it be released if the RC isn't even out? Or the kernel not being frozen yet? April fool's day, huh?
[01:06] <smile> hi everybody
[01:07] <smile> how to make a voice chat with kopete ?
[01:07] <busfahrer> Excuse me, how do I switch the 'startup' logo between ubuntu and kubuntu? (kdm/gdm)?
[01:07] <MilhousePunkRock> smile: Jabber Jingle aka Google Talk?
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> busfahrer: The bootsplash? I think you could edit your grub.conf accordingly...
[01:09] <fdoving> busfahrer: in a terminal 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so'
[01:09] <c1|freaky> busfahrer: do you mean switching between kdm and gdm or the usplash?
[01:09] <MilhousePunkRock> busfahrer: Sorry, it's called menu.lst here
[01:09] <busfahrer> fdoving: There was also another command involved besides that
[01:09] <c1|freaky> dpkg-reconfigure gdm and then choose kdm
[01:09] <c1|freaky> i think
[01:09] <c1|freaky> or something like that
[01:10] <c1|freaky> it will ask which one of both u want to use
[01:10] <smile> MilhousePunkRock: what is jabber jingle ?
[01:10] <busfahrer> thanks guys
[01:10] <MilhousePunkRock> busfahrer: There is no good reason why you would need two login managers though
[01:10] <MilhousePunkRock> MilhousePunkRock: What kind of voice chat were you referring to in the first place?
[01:11] <smile> MilhousePunkRock: i want speak with msn user by mic
[01:11] <MilhousePunkRock> smile: Hmm... Did you ask in #kopete if that is possible at all?
[01:12] <smile> MilhousePunkRock: i didnt found a option for voice talk .. i found the cam but not the mic
[01:13] <smile> MilhousePunkRock: is this possible with aMSN  or Gaim ?
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> smile: A quote fromt the KDE forum: "Kopete does not support voice conversation via MSN. Only voice conversation via GoogleTalk is supported right now. "
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> smile: That was july 2006 though, no idea if anything has changed
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> smile: You are probably best off asking in #kopete
[01:14] <smile> MilhousePunkRock: googletalk can speak with msn user ?
[01:14] <smile> MilhousePunkRock: what do u mean ?
[01:14] <Deepo> Hi
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> smile: No, google talk can talk with google talk
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> smile: join the channel #kopete and ask there
[01:15] <smile> MilhousePunkRock: how can i connect to this channel ?
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> just click on #kopete
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> or type "/j #kopete"
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> without the quotes
[01:16] <smile> MilhousePunkRock: thx i did it :-)
[01:16] <MilhousePunkRock> smile: yw
[01:16] <Deepo> How can I update my kubuntu to feity ?
[01:16] <Deepo> feisty ?
[01:16] <smile> Deepo: yes is ur ku is edge
[01:16] <Alda-> check the kubuntu homepage
[01:16] <MilhousePunkRock> deepo: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[01:17] <Deepo> ok
[01:17] <MilhousePunkRock> deepo: alternatively: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:17] <smile> Deepo: just click " sudo apt-get upgrade "
[01:17] <ruschi> Can anyone confirm missing tty if changing from sysv-init to upstart?
[01:17] <smile> Deepo: oh .yes ..as MilhousePunkRock said :-)
[01:17] <Deepo> ok, thanks
[01:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Deepo: It might take a while though, don't dare to abort it, it left me with an unbootable system
[01:18] <ruschi> I changed form sysV init to upstart now there are no getty spawned - already installed console-setup
[01:19] <fdoving> ruschi: do you have 'system-services' installed ?
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> btw, Deepo, what you asked for is even in the channel topic.. ;-)
[01:21] <ruschi> fdoving: no it was not installed - should I post a bugreport ? IMHO this is an essential thing and should be installed by depencency of ubuntu-base
[01:21] <sorush20> anyone here using fiesty
[01:22] <MilhousePunkRock> sorush20: No, but Feisty. :-P The right place to ask questions about it is #ubuntu+1 though
[01:23] <fdoving> ruschi: ubuntu-minimal already depends on it. no need.
[01:23] <fdoving> sorush20: yes. i use feisty.
[01:24] <tux> hi
[01:24] <ruschi> fdoving: strange I upgraded from dapper to edgy and now to feisty - I never had ubuntu-minimal installed
[01:25] <ruschi> obviously it is not needed - no dependants of ubuntu-minimal
[01:25] <tux> does one of you know wich packages i need to install for KDE, just KDE-core?
[01:26] <Deepo> or if you have KDE 3.5.6 Edgy packages installed add this one for i386:
[01:26] <Deepo> what does that mean ?
[01:26] <Deepo> I have edgy
[01:26] <fdoving> ruschi: what app did you use when upgrading? apt-get?
[01:26] <ruschi> yes
[01:27] <ruschi> apt-get distupgrade
[01:27] <busfahrer> Excuse me, how do I get konqueror to thumbnail movie files? (instead of icons)
[01:27] <ruschi> fdoving: is apt-get distupgrade replaced by something else?
[01:28] <fdoving> ruschi: then that's what failed. you should use aptitude, as apt-get doesn't install recommends. upstart recommends system-services, aptitude and the rest will install recommends by default. but you are allowed to manually remove them afterwards.
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Deepo: Did you update your KDE in between? If you, you are on KDE 3.5.6, if not, 3.5.5.
[01:29] <Deepo> ah ok
[01:29] <Deepo> im 3.5.5
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Deepo: Just click Help --> About KDE in any K-app to find out
[01:30] <fdoving> ruschi: you can also pass --install-recommends as an option to apt-get, if you want.
[01:30] <fdoving> or --with-recommends.. maybe.
[01:31] <ruschi> fdoving: thanks
[01:31] <ruschi> maybe going down for reboot
[01:32] <sinkorswim> sorry for the basic question, but what's the kubuntu equivalent of a windows ctrl+click?
[01:33] <von> help
[01:33] <von> i put a cd in, and it alwwtys say its empty
[01:33] <von> why
[01:34] <fdoving> sinkorswim: what does ctrl+click do in windows?
[01:34] <sinkorswim> fdoving: it lets u select multiple items
[01:35] <sinkorswim> in a file explorer
[01:35] <busfahrer> Excuse me, how do I get konqueror to thumbnail movie files? (instead of icons)
[01:35] <von> why does it auto mount it?
[01:35] <fdoving> sinkorswim: that works for me in konqueror. too.
[01:35] <sinkorswim> shift+click selects items which are next to each other, ctrl+click lets u select items from anywhere in the current view
[01:35] <von> and say no media
[01:35] <von> whywhywhy
[01:36] <sinkorswim> fdoving: strange... not working for me
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> sinkorswim: Standard kde behaviour is one-click-execution. Just hold crtl and drag a little square over each object you want to select
[01:36] <ruschi> fdoving: no it didn't help - at boottime I now get a message "/etc/event.d/tty1: unknown stanza"
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> ruschi: I have that too, once you solve it, let me know how...
[01:37] <MilhousePunkRock> not for tty1 though, iirc
[01:37] <MilhousePunkRock> working, sinkorswim?
[01:38] <intelikey> von  does it automount ?
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> INTELIKEY
[01:38] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock :)
[01:38] <von> it does automount
[01:38] <sinkorswim> MilhousePunkRock: no. I've been messing with all kinds of settings tho. lemme reboot and try again
[01:38] <von> ok
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Evangelism count: +1
[01:38] <von> i tried to type it manually mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[01:38] <von> and it worked
[01:39] <ruschi> milhousepunkrock: I got a strang line - seems like a typo: "/sbin/getty 38400 tty1exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1" - see no space between tty1 and exec
[01:39] <intelikey> von does 'mount '  show it mounted ?
[01:39] <von> but the automount makes me can't see the files
[01:39] <MilhousePunkRock> ruschi: TBH, I did not look into it yet, things change too fast on Feisty, so I wait until the final release to straighten everything out
[01:39] <von> before i manually type mount /xxxxx , i can't see on mount
[01:39] <fdoving> ruschi: what does /etc/event.d/tty1 look like?
[01:40] <von> after i typed it can.. how can i change the way kunbuntu mount?
[01:40] <intelikey> von then it's not "mounted"   you can dubble check with  'cat /proc/mounts '
[01:40] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey, von: Sounds like a kioslave thing to me
[01:41] <ruschi> fdoving: "start on runlevel 2 .......\n  respawn \n /sbin/getty 38400 tty1exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1"
[01:41] <intelikey> von that's the reason i asked.  you are not seeing a mount you are seeing a kiosocket
[01:41] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock prezactly.
[01:41] <ruschi> sorry - gotta go
[01:41] <fdoving> ruschi: i'll paste mine online. hang on.
[01:41] <von> how do i retify that?
[01:41] <ruschi> ok
[01:41] <ruschi> where is the pastbin?
[01:41] <apokryphos> ruschi: /msg ubotu pastebin
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> http://pastebin.ca
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> for example
[01:42] <von> its a frseh installation, i didn't mess with the settings
[01:42] <intelikey> von idk.  i'm not a gui/kde/'pointy clicky thingy'  guy,
[01:42] <fdoving> ruschi: http://qtnode.net/pastebin/2613
[01:42] <von> idk?
[01:42] <MilhousePunkRock> von: The first time you ever inserted a media, did a little window come up?
[01:42] <fdoving> ruschi: that's the syntax, change tty1 to tty2, tty3 and so on for the rest of the ttys.
[01:42] <intelikey> von if fdoving is not too busy he might know.
[01:42] <beta> another stupid question most probably: i want to reinstall windows, how do i fix the bootloader afterwards (wrote it in the mbr simply)?
[01:42] <knubbe> hi, im gonna re-install my kubuntu laptop. any recommendations with stuff to backup before? except my home-folder that is..
[01:42] <ruschi> ok - Thanks alot
[01:42] <ruschi> gotta go
[01:43] <intelikey> von idk= i don't know
[01:43] <von> no, i know the little window that suppose to ask me how i want to do with the cd would pop out..but it didn't pop out.. instead, an icon is on my desktop automatically
[01:43] <von> that says cdrom0
[01:43] <fdoving> i'll be back in 10 mins.
[01:43] <beta> as i dont know anything about grub config yet i would prefer to just backup my current config then write it back...if possible anyhow
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> beta: The grub configuration is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:44] <von> oic
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Just copy that to a secure location
[01:44] <beta> thx
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> beta: I think you need to run update-grub after win installation, IIRC windows overwrites the mbr
[01:44] <beta> MilhousePunkRock: then after the windows reinstall, how do i put the grub backup back into the mbr?
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> not 100% sure though
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> update-grub, but someone needs to confirm that
[01:45] <beta> MilhousePunkRock: yup i read to do that via a live-cd but that doenst put my backup grub config in the mbr i assume
[01:45] <von> now i have to sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom everytime i put in a cd
[01:45] <Tm_T> !feisty
[01:45] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released at 0:00 UTC on April, 1
[01:46] <MilhousePunkRock> beta: most likely not, just copy it back then
[01:47] <beta> MilhousePunkRock:  ah wait...im dull again....just do update-grub to rewrite a generic grub config than put the backed up configboot/grub/menu.ls
[01:47] <beta> ?
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> beta: Now that I properly read what you wrote... Exactly, the menu.lst does not reside in the mbr, but grub itself
[01:48] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[01:48] <intelikey> von you probably wont like it,  but what i would do is write a script and put in a handy spot to do    [ ! `cat ~/.cd` = 1 ]  && eject && echo 1 > ~/.cd    <new line> [ `cat ~/.cd` = 1 ]  && mount <cd_mountpoint> && : > ~/.cd               then disable the desktop setting to display device icons on the desktop.    and make sure the fstab was set to allow users to mount it....    but that's just me.
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> beta: So you put grub back into place by update-grub and then copy back the original menu.lst
[01:49] <usamahashimi> i am looking for some replacements of programs of gnome in kde, like gnuplot, gv?
[01:49] <intelikey> inturpreting <new line>  and  <cd_mountpoint>   of course
[01:50] <MilhousePunkRock> A general question: Why is the grub.conf called menu.lst in Kubuntu?
[01:50] <beta> MilhousePunkRock: right...thats where i was confused.....assuming the grb config was the grub loader itself...
[01:50] <busfahrer> Is there any way to disable the Tooltips that appear when you hover over window titles in the taskbar? (i.e. the large ones, not the small yellow tooltips)
[01:51] <beta> MilhousePunkRock: thx got it now
[01:51] <MilhousePunkRock> busfahrer: Most likely yes, in KControl somewhere... I am not in Kubuntu right now, so I cant check
[01:53] <usamahashimi> is there any clone for kde of package gnuplot and gv?
[01:54] <beta> is it possible to make the navi bar in konq remembering its settings (size, displayed items)?
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> usamahashimi: You can use GTK programs in KDE too
[01:54] <usamahashimi> MilhousePunkRock: yes, i know but i will prefer the kde's one
[01:55] <intelikey> von you never said anything about that, does that mean you are considering it ?   </shocked if so>
[01:55] <beta> i looked through the manuals but couldnt find it mentioned....but i cant really believe it aint possible
[01:55] <usamahashimi> Is there any site which can tell the names of similar packages of gnome and kde?
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> usamahashimi: If you know the purpose, google can probably help... like "qt plotting application" or alike
[01:56] <usamahashimi> MilhousePunkRock: lemme check
[01:57] <von> ?
[01:57] <holastickboy> asamahashimi: u could try kde-apps.org and search there for an alternative
[01:57] <intelikey> beta with a point and click methood prolly not.  but i'm sure it can be done, maybe in ~/.kde/aplications/ something...   but it may not be easy.
[01:57] <cs178_> busfahrer: do you speak german? cause i have a german kubuntu and it might be a bit difficult to translate...
[01:57] <usamahashimi> holastickboy: thats a good idea,
[01:58] <holastickboy> does anyone here run world of warcraft on linux here?
[01:59] <beta> intelikey: ok, thx...at least its possible. if way beyound my current possibilities most probably :)
[01:59] <beta> if = also
[01:59] <beta> although
[01:59] <beta> sheesh...
[01:59] <beta> ;)
[01:59] <intelikey> :)
[02:00] <busfahrer> cs178_: I figured it out, thanks :-)
[02:00] <usamahashimi> holastickboy: i find some packages, like kst and labplot but how do i know that which is standard for kde?
[02:01] <holastickboy> usamahashimi: as far as I know, if those programs are on that site, they have been made using the QT library, which is basically the foundation of kde.
[02:01] <joao> hello
[02:01] <holastickboy> usamahashimi: u can always download it and try, wont hurt
[02:02] <holastickboy> joao: hi there
[02:02] <fdoving> beta: update-grub just updates menu.lst, it does not re-write the mbr with grub.
[02:02] <joao> its may first time here
[02:03] <fdoving> beta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:03] <holastickboy> joao: same here mate, been on for like 2mins :D
[02:03] <Jisao> welcome, jo
[02:03] <joao> ...abd new in ubuntu
[02:03] <usamahashimi> holastickboy: i find one, kmatplot and its also in repos
[02:03] <holastickboy> joao: its a good distro
[02:03] <fdoving> von: hi, what was your problem again? - cd mounting?
[02:03] <akrus> hello everyone, i have problems with DVD disk :(
[02:03] <holastickboy> usamahashimi: nice :D
[02:03] <beta> fdoving: oh thx for pointing that out....saved me from an afternoon of headaches most certainly!
[02:04] <intelikey> grub-install /dev/<your_hd>
[02:04] <von> hey it worked after i rebooted
[02:04] <just-this-time> !sound
[02:04] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:04] <holastickboy> akrus: whats ur problem, u can't play dvd movies?
[02:04] <von> thanks
[02:04] <akrus> it mounts ok, but some files are unreadable and i'm getting '[431966.324000]  Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 2107397' in dmesg
[02:04] <joao> ice distro and many people to help (us and them)
[02:04] <akrus> with different block numbers :(
[02:04] <akrus> when copying to HDD
[02:04] <intelikey> beta grub-install /dev/<your_hd>  <<< to rewrite the MBR
[02:04] <holastickboy> arkrus: sounds to me like ur disk is corrupt, what does everyone else think?
[02:04] <fdoving> akrus: is the disk fine? scratches or anything?
[02:05] <beta> basically a good link was all im looking for....sometimes i still struggle to google a good manual...even if its just basic stuff hm
[02:05] <Jisao> does cp -ax preserve the ownership and permissions of the files?
[02:05] <akrus> fdoving: lemme check :)
[02:05] <beta> intelikey: : thx, noted
[02:05] <akrus> looks like nothing... lemme clean it :D
[02:05] <atidem> hello!
[02:05] <akrus> someone left fingerprints here lol
[02:05] <Jisao> HI atidem
[02:06] <holastickboy> akrus: does it work on other computers or os?
[02:06] <akrus> well
[02:06] <akrus> last time it was windows
[02:06] <akrus> worked well
[02:06] <akrus> but it was so long ago
[02:07] <holastickboy> akrus: well im outta ideas :D
[02:07] <akrus> okay retrying :)
[02:07] <akrus> lol working
[02:07] <akrus> thankies :D
[02:07] <holastickboy> akrus: lol, i didnt do much :D
[02:08] <akrus> :)
[02:08] <holastickboy> Does anyone have a nice Linux community website they go to regularly?  I'm looking for a site with a forum and stuff
[02:08] <intelikey> akrus i don't know what disk you are refering to   but you might consider that some pressed disks the actual write is on the back side and if you scratch that you ruin the disk.    a clean/slick face on the disk does not always mean it's not scratched.
[02:08] <akrus> intelikey: yeah i know, just i thought it's like 1Gb+ SD Card problem x)
[02:08] <intelikey> k
[02:09] <intelikey> !forums | holastickboy have you looked on ubuntu
[02:09] <ubotu> holastickboy have you looked on ubuntu: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[02:09] <Alda-> Hi there, I'm messing around with some settings, and found the "Translucency"-setting in window behaviour ... however, when I activate it nothing happens .... do I have to restart X or something like that or is it broken? :)
[02:11] <intelikey> holastickboy i'm not sending you there.... wouldn't send someone some place i don't go... just asked if you had checked it.
[02:11] <beta> is there an easy way to make all windows remember its sizings and positions? is kcontrol>behaviour for it?
[02:12] <intelikey> Alda- did you "apply" the changes ?
[02:12] <Alda-> yupp
[02:12] <intelikey> beta check in  kcontrol
[02:12] <holastickboy> intelikey: thanks for that mate.  I was thinking of something a little smaller, more of a tight nit community.
[02:12] <Alda-> allthough, I'm not really sure what should happen ... but arent the windows supposed to get transparent? :)
[02:12] <beta> hm, i applied firefox size fullsize there but it didnt do anything...i just notice that it works now
[02:13] <beta> intelikey: possible it is only applied after a reboot?
[02:13] <intelikey> holastickboy mmmm  google  "local lugs"    maybe
[02:13] <beta> otherwise my windows just behave strange
[02:13] <holastickboy> intelikey: will do, good idea
[02:13] <intelikey> beta this is not M$ we don't reboot for things like that
[02:14] <beta> intelikey: crap.....then i got another strange behaving on my list which i got to sort :(
[02:14] <intelikey> beta a restart of x or of kde (both equal in most cases)    yes   reboot no.
[02:15] <beta> i just noticed some apps start up in the background though theres no window loaded that has focus stealing prevention or anything
[02:15] <beta> intelikey: ok, will try to apply settings then restart kde....hope that will explain it
[02:17] <intelikey> kde = the tinkerers dream, the configurers paradice, the "but i want it to just work 'ers "  worst nightmare ....
[02:18] <holastickboy> nothing like having a nice space to cater to ur every tinkering needs though
[02:18] <holastickboy> thats what i love about linux
[02:18] <holastickboy> MYSPACE
[02:18] <Alda> The transluency required a X-restart it seems, not it works :)
[02:18] <intelikey> and i would ask "but if you want it to 'just work', why aren't you on windows?"   </monolog>
[02:19] <fdoving> intelikey: because it just works sometimes, then it breaks :)
[02:19] <intelikey> fdoving lol
[02:19] <intelikey> :)
[02:19] <holastickboy> lol
[02:20] <beta> it would be a relief for the linux world but i wont switch back sry ;)
[02:20] <intelikey> i still like the one...  Q, what do linux users do ?
[02:20] <intelikey> A, they install software.
[02:20] <holastickboy> lol
[02:20] <holastickboy> its true
[02:21] <holastickboy> its like a hobby
[02:21] <intelikey> wouldn't be funny if it wasn't true.
[02:21] <holastickboy> lol, yeah
[02:21] <CVirus> Amarok suddenly stopped playing mp3s as if it has no support for them .. wtf ?!
[02:22] <CVirus> anybody ?
[02:22] <holastickboy> any error messages?
[02:22] <intelikey> i'm glad someone pointed out that   wtf = what's that for    cause i thought people were cursing in shorthand .....
[02:23] <beta> even as a noob i can see how you can be pulled into installing configuring evrything to your needs....but it has to be said that KDe out of the box as a working environment is still centurys ahead of windows
[02:23] <holastickboy> yeah
[02:24] <intelikey> beta hmmmm   ok.  now it's been said.   :)
[02:24] <beta> never used a mac....and even with all the little hurdles im still amazed by kde
[02:24] <beta> intelikey: hehe ;p
[02:24] <holastickboy> i have a mac
[02:24] <holastickboy> its too dumbed down
[02:24] <holastickboy> almost no customisation at all
[02:24] <holastickboy> apart from wallpaper...
[02:24] <intelikey> holastickboy gnome'ish ?
[02:25] <holastickboy> no... even  worse
[02:25] <CVirus> holastickboy: no suitable demux pludin
[02:25] <CVirus> plugin*
[02:25] <intelikey> well i take that back.   gnome is not that bad,  it's just not as easily customizable as kde.
[02:25] <holastickboy> yeah
[02:26] <beta> i seriously wanted to buy a mac....but im so tempted now to use only linux and free software from now on
[02:26] <holastickboy> CVirus: im not an expert, but try typing that error message into google and see what happens
[02:26] <CVirus> holastickboy: that's the error messege the appears when libxine-extracodecs is NOT installed
[02:26] <CVirus> but I have the package installed ever since I started using Kubuntu
[02:26] <intelikey> CVirus Q,  does it fail on all mp3's now or only mp3's of some types ?
[02:27] <CVirus> all mp3s
[02:27] <holastickboy> CVirus: yeah, what about after a system restart
[02:27] <CVirus> holastickboy: system restart ?
[02:27] <CVirus> LOL
[02:27] <CVirus> how would a reboot fix things !
[02:28] <holastickboy> CVirus: well, if it is a temporary crash on AmaroK then it might
[02:28] <intelikey> CVirus update anything lately ?     /var/log/dpkg.log  maybe
[02:28] <CVirus> intelikey: nuthing related
[02:29] <intelikey> holastickboy M$ mentality ?
[02:29] <intelikey> this one window looks a little bit different than normal.   i think i'll reboot....
[02:29] <CVirus> hehe
[02:30] <intelikey> oh i lost my internet connection i need to reboot
[02:30] <CVirus> brb
[02:30] <intelikey> wait the mouse is "jerky" i need to reboot
[02:30] <holastickboy> this morning i tried using adept, but everytime i tried to launch it, it just hung there and did nothing.  I tried killing the process and apt lock just incase that would help, but it didnt.  So i just turned it off, came on this afternoon and it works
[02:30] <just-this-time> cloned installation silent on HD Audioo intel
[02:31] <just-this-time> how do I make java work on konqueror
[02:32] <fdoving> !java
[02:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:32] <intelikey> holastickboy i didn't say you couldn't change anything by rebooting.  i just pointed out that it's not needed.
[02:32] <just-this-time> how do I make java work on konqueror, so that paste.ubunut-nl.org works  on konqueror and wont blame me for spamming
[02:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[02:33] <holastickboy> intelikey: i dont reboot all the time, infact, I hate doing it cause it wastes my time
[02:33] <just-this-time> ok
[02:33] <intelikey> just-this-time paste.ubuntu-nl.org hasn't worked for me this year.   try  pastebin.ca or us or gb  or.....
[02:33] <just-this-time> k intelikey
[02:38] <just-this-time> what could be an easy quick and simple test for java in konqueror. pls link
[02:39] <just-this-time> sun-java6-jre installed already
[02:39] <just-this-time> q
[02:39] <CVirus> intelikey: holastickboy: deleting my ~/.xine solved the issue
[02:40] <holastickboy> CVirus: weird how it just happened though
[02:40] <holastickboy> CVirus: glad it worked out though
[02:40] <CVirus> no idea
[02:40] <intelikey> noted.
[02:41] <CVirus> :-)
[02:47] <angasule> !repositories
[02:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:50] <kraut> moin
[02:51] <mrigns> !de | kraut
[02:51] <ubotu> kraut: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:51] <kraut> mrigns: i know, so were is the problem?
[02:51] <mrigns> ka, dachte wsstest es nicht, wegen dem "moin"
[02:52] <mrigns> nicht bse gemeint
[02:52] <kraut> mrigns: ah, ok
[02:52] <kraut> mrigns: i just used it as an amsg.
[02:53] <kraut> and some kind of internatiolization of moin ;)
[02:53] <kraut> it works pretty well ;)
[02:53] <os2mac> Having a very interesting problem with network manager in fiesty.
[02:54] <os2mac> it's not seeing any wireless networks but I can manually connect just fine
[02:54] <os2mac> and even after I am connected and talking (like I am now) networkmanager still doesn't see the network
[02:54] <mrigns> os2mac: for feisry use #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <os2mac> or #Kubuntu+1?
[02:55] <ubinsp> Hello everybody
[02:56] <ubinsp> Who is using kmail here?
[02:59] <BluesKaj> ubinsp, I do, what's up ?
[03:00] <intelikey>  /bin/sh: /bin/sh: cannot execute binary file
[03:00] <intelikey> ?
[03:01] <ubinsp> BluesKaj: excuse me, I was warming my tea
 Who is using kmail here?   <BluesKaj> ubinsp, I do, what's up ?   <ubinsp> BluesKaj: excuse me, I was warming my tea
[03:01] <BluesKaj> np, brb...gonna get a coffee
[03:04] <ubinsp> BluesKaj: so my problem is : On a mail server, I can get my mails with imap protocol in digest or cram MD5, But with pop protocol I can't. But I am sure that server support pop protocol with digest or cram MD5 auth, because I succeed to get them with these method with thunderbird. So, what is the problem in kmail with auth digest or cram or APOP auth in pop protocol?
[03:06] <BluesKaj> dunno, ubinsp I just use pop, which is quite straightforward to setup, but I'm not sure that one can configure all those options to work simultaneously.
[03:09] <ubinsp> BluesKaj: Yes, of course, I use on of them, not all at the same moment
[03:09] <ubinsp> one*
[03:11] <BluesKaj> I get mail from my ISP, I don't bother trying to channel my webmail to kmail
[03:12] <sorush20> hi
[03:12] <sorush20> I just get an upgrade tool crash ..
[03:12] <sorush20> how do I recover it..
[03:12] <ubinsp> I think Digest-MD5 is the best, but my server says, in pop protocol, that digest-md5 auth is not known by him, but when I do a telnet on it, it's written that digest-md5 auth is OK.
[03:12] <BluesKaj> I can't get thunderbird to links to open my browser so I dropped it...it's the only reason I use kmail
[03:12] <ubinsp> So I think there is a bug in kmail
[03:12] <intelikey> why am i getting an error out of this ?      ps -A x | grep -s "$PPID" | grep -q "-bash" && echo 0 || echo 1
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ubinsp , sorry but I'm not familiar with digest-md5 ... intelikey?
[03:14] <ubinsp> BluesKaj: I can use cram-md5, it is not a problem
[03:15] <ubinsp> but the result is the same : an error message
[03:15] <BluesKaj> never even heard of it before
[03:15] <intelikey> ok it's the shell removing the quotes
[03:15] <ubinsp> One moment, I have an answer on french channel
[03:17] <BluesKaj> intelikey , what is ubinsp talking about, cram-md5 mail protocol ?
[03:17] <sorush20> my dpkg is locked by another proces how do I find out what it is and kill it all ?
[03:18] <BluesKaj> sorush20, 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:19] <BluesKaj> or you have adept or synaptic still open , sorush20
[03:19] <intelikey> BluesKaj idk.   imap and pop is all i'm familear with.
[03:19] <BluesKaj> yeah, totally greek to me , intelikey
[03:20] <ubinsp> BluesKaj: cram-md5 or digest-md5 is a mean to exchange login with the server to be sure that the client is the good person, without sending the password in clear text
[03:20] <ubinsp> it's only authentification
[03:21] <ubinsp> You can use it on pop or imap as well
[03:21] <jmichaelx> has anyone else experienced a major problem upgrading to kubuntu feisty beta? i upgraded by changing 'edgy' to 'feisty' in all instances in my sources.list, and doing a dist-upgrade. everything appeared to work, but when i reboot, i wind up getting 'busybox' and no bash. would anyone know whether or not there is still a hope of salvaging this system?
[03:21] <elitehacker> hey i am having problems with my KONSOLE* i am typing in su* to open up a java.bin file on my pc but when i do it asks for a password and it says authentication failed when i type in my pass word correctly
[03:22] <intelikey> how do you pronounce   breath  ?
[03:22] <intelikey> elitehacker that's because you don't have a root password.
[03:22] <elitehacker> ohhh
[03:23] <elitehacker> but i have a password when i log in?
[03:23] <elitehacker> or is it a system pass?
[03:23] <intelikey> elitehacker yeah that's your password not root's
[03:23] <elitehacker> ohh so how do i make my self one?
[03:23] <intelikey> why do you want to ?
[03:23] <elitehacker> to install java
[03:23] <elitehacker> to get frostwire to work
[03:24] <intelikey> you don't need a root password for that
[03:24] <elitehacker> it ask's for one in the java instructions
[03:24] <intelikey> !java
[03:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:24] <clemyeats> elitehacker: you can run things as root by prefixing your commands with "sudo"
[03:24] <intelikey> !frostwire
[03:24] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:24] <intelikey> !sudo > elitehacker
[03:24] <gugu^> please help to configure server for a little network
[03:25] <elitehacker> wow!!! to many links and helpful tips!!!
[03:25] <clemyeats> elitehacker: if you need to log in as root (you rarely do but anyway) you need to assign root a password with "sudo passwd root" then log in as root with "su -".. or even without knowing root's password: "sudo su -"
[03:25] <intelikey> and that's all for me.     later folks.
[03:25] <elitehacker> i will try the java/ubuntu fourm link
[03:25] <elitehacker> ohhh kinda like a windows administrator to the whole pc?
[03:26] <intelikey> clemyeats that's still not needed.   sudo -i  and you have made your self root.
[03:26] <clemyeats> intelikey: ah well, then even better :)
[03:26] <intelikey> i mean after all in ubuntu  you are root jr.  just grow up....  :)
[03:27] <elitehacker> so how to i sign in as ROOT?
[03:27] <elitehacker> i only made one user
[03:27] <clemyeats> elitehacker: graphically ??
[03:27] <elitehacker> whats that mean>?
[03:27] <clemyeats> elitehacker: you mean how do you log in as root in the graphical environment, or how do you run stuff as root.. ?
[03:28] <elitehacker> yeah
[03:28] <clemyeats> elitehacker: yeah what ? :)
[03:28] <elitehacker> so do i sign in as ROOT and run the java.bin file in terminal?
[03:28] <clemyeats> elitehacker: you just run the bin file as root..
[03:28] <elitehacker> how thou i tried but i need a root pass
[03:28] <clemyeats> elitehacker: sudo ./java.bin
[03:28] <elitehacker> alrite
[03:29] <elitehacker> 1 sec
[03:30] <elitehacker> it says no such directory or name?
[03:30] <elitehacker> when i type sudo ./fre-1-5....... .bin?
[03:30] <elitehacker> i have the file loacted on my desktop
[03:31] <archangel_> I dont know what happend, one minute I can play DVD's the next I cant
[03:31] <archangel_> codecs are installed
[03:31] <archangel_> whats the deal?
[03:34] <jmichaelx> has anyone else experienced a major problem upgrading to kubuntu feisty beta? i upgraded by changing 'edgy' to 'feisty' in all instances in my sources.list, and doing a dist-upgrade. everything appeared to work, but when i reboot, i wind up getting 'busybox' and no bash. would anyone know whether or not there is still a hope of salvaging this system?
[03:35] <elitehacker> HELP i tried installing well downloading java trew terminal and tyhis is what it says
[03:35] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[03:35] <elitehacker> Password:
[03:35] <elitehacker> Sorry, try again.
[03:35] <elitehacker> Password:
[03:35] <elitehacker> Reading package lists... Done
[03:35] <elitehacker> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:35] <elitehacker> Package sun-java5-bin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:35] <elitehacker> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:35] <elitehacker> is only available from another source
[03:35] <elitehacker> E: Package sun-java5-bin has no installation candidate
[03:35] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$
[03:35] <elitehacker> sorry
[03:35] <elitehacker> i didnt mean to press that button to make it all my typing
[03:35] <mrigns> !paste | elitehacker
[03:35] <ubotu> elitehacker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:36] <elitehacker> yeah i know but i hit the wrong one
[03:36] <elitehacker> wow thats a huge flood
[03:37] <Tm_T> elitehacker: hmm, how about java6 ?
[03:38] <elitehacker> i have instructions
[03:38] <hardlife> missy07
[03:38] <elitehacker> wait i am installing 5.1?
[03:38] <elitehacker> is there a 6?
[03:38] <Tm_T> yes
[03:38] <Tm_T> elitehacker: "apt-cache search sun-java"
[03:38] <archangel_> I tried upgrading also (but from dapper to edgy) and it looked like it worked, however it says I still have Dapper
[03:38] <elitehacker> whats that?
[03:38] <archangel_> not sure why
[03:38] <elitehacker> apt-?
[03:38] <elitehacker> do i type that in terminal
[03:39] <Tm_T> elitehacker: apt-cache is command that does fiddle with your package database, this particular command series search package that does match with search pattern
[03:39] <elitehacker> when i type tat it tells me about frost wire?
[03:39] <Tm_T> it uses java
[03:39] <elitehacker> yeah thats why i need to install it
[03:39] <elitehacker> soi can run frost wire
[03:39] <sinkorswim> I switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, now I'm getting "connection timed out; no servers could be reached" when I try "host -t mx" on ANY domain
[03:40] <elitehacker> i have this link but idk if it will work or be usefull to me?
[03:40] <elitehacker> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[03:40] <elitehacker> my pc is kubuntu 6.06 x86 but this one is a x68?
[03:40] <elitehacker> is there a typo?
[03:41] <asdasd> the recent upgrades broke vmware.. whats the best way to fix this
[03:41] <mrigns> wow a x68. how did you manage to install kubuntu on a NASA Shuttle Landing Facility???
[03:42] <elitehacker> i dont understand?
[03:42] <zulik> wellcome all
[03:42] <elitehacker> ios that a good pc or old?
[03:42] <pauljw> reinstall vmware, asdasd
[03:42] <mrigns> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X68
[03:42] <Filip^> I need MythTV 0.19 because the protocol is different from 0.20. How do I install older versions on ubuntu?
[03:42] <BluesKaj> !mythtv
[03:42] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[03:43] <just-this-time> 1http://pastebin.ca/419598
[03:43] <just-this-time> http://pastebin.ca/419598
[03:43] <just-this-time> wine issue http://pastebin.ca/419598
[03:43] <mrigns> elitehacker: 386 486 586 686 = x68
[03:44] <just-this-time> sorry re-pasting
[03:44] <mrigns> x = placeholder
[03:44] <asdasd> pauljw: install it over the top of the old one?
[03:44] <elitehacker> um i typed this in termianal apt- get java6.bin and it sayed error and 13 permissions denied and it sayed are u root so i typed in yes and a whole bunch of Y's went down the screen
[03:45] <Filip^> mrigns: (surely you mean x86)
[03:45] <pauljw> yes, it will most likely remove itself and reinstall, but it compiles to the kernel and when you upgraded it needs to do it again.
[03:45] <mrigns> mrigns:  err yes
[03:45] <mrigns> Filip^: yes
[03:46] <elitehacker> what interface am i using
[03:46] <elitehacker> i just got java to work but it asks me
[03:46] <elitehacker> am i using KDE or Gnome?
[03:46] <archangel_> I'm looking for a really good first person shooter
[03:46] <archangel_> is there any in adept?
[03:46] <elitehacker> HELP
[03:47] <pauljw> elitehacker: are you using kubuntu?  it's KDE
[03:47] <sinkorswim> I switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, now I'm getting "connection timed out; no servers could be reached" when I try "host -t mx" on ANY domain
[03:47] <archangel_> elitehacker: dude do you have a blue square at the bottem left of your screen?
[03:47] <elitehacker> yeah i typed this in
[03:47] <elitehacker> sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[03:48] <elitehacker> what is that it sayed i need it for java in order to get it
[03:48] <zulik> elitehacker:  yu have repo?
[03:48] <elitehacker>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure debcon
[03:48] <jack_> hi, is there a dictionary that i could use offline ?
[03:48] <elitehacker> ? what that is?
[03:48] <pollyo> !frostwire
[03:48] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:48] <jack_> elitehacker:
[03:48] <elitehacker> i dont need that
[03:48] <jack_> you mean me?
[03:49] <pollyo> Anyone here use frostwire?
[03:49] <elitehacker> i wish i cabn
[03:49] <elitehacker> can*
[03:49] <pollyo> elitehacker: Why can't you?
[03:49] <elitehacker> but i dont think java nor terminal like's me
[03:49] <elitehacker> cuz i need java installed
[03:49] <elitehacker> but insted its taking me 2days now
[03:49] <pollyo> elitehacker: Why not just install it?
[03:49] <elitehacker> i "kant"
[03:50] <elitehacker> i dont think kubuntu will let me i need a root? w.e that is
[03:50] <LjL> jack_: you could install the dictd server on your own machine, and then use any dict client
[03:50] <LjL> !info dict-gcide
[03:50] <elitehacker> once i find the root pass then it shoudl work?
[03:50] <ubotu> dict-gcide: A Comprehensive English Dictionary. In component main, is optional. Version 0.48-4.1 (edgy), package size 14769 kB, installed size 17152 kB
[03:50] <LjL> root pass?
[03:50] <LjL> !root
[03:50] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:51] <elitehacker> k i tihkn this is the last link i am clicking on
[03:51] <just-this-time> !alternatives
[03:51] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[03:51] <pauljw> elitehacker: you do not need root, use sudo.  what you really need is to do your homework and read up on using this os.  it's not windows.
[03:51] <pollyo> elitehacker: Why do you need a root password?
[03:51] <pollyo> elitehacker: Just sudo command and then type in your password.
[03:52] <ubinsp> bye
[03:52] <pollyo> elitehacker: I've been using kubuntu for two - three weeks and I was able to install it in minutes.
[03:52] <pauljw> :)
[03:52] <pollyo> I'm only having trouble closing Frostwire.  It appears to stay open.
[03:52] <Filip^> What's happening is that he's typing stuff into the terminal, which tells him he needs root privileges. Someone needs to give him step-by-step instructions on installing Java
[03:53] <Filip^> elitehacker: feisty or edgy?
[03:53] <Filip^> 6.10 or 7.04
[03:53] <elitehacker> what
[03:53] <pollyo> Flip^: Doesn't adept have an installation for Java?  That is what I used to install Java.
[03:53] <elitehacker> yes i do use sudo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:54] <elitehacker> but when itype in the java file it says no directory
[03:54] <jack_> LjL: thats cool, do i need to enable the dict server in the firewall settings then?
[03:54] <LjL> jack_: i don't think so, since you will be using it locally
[03:54] <LjL> unless the firewall is quite stupid
[03:55] <Filip^> pollyo: I don't know, I just switched to Kubuntu two weeks ago. But my point is that he doesn't want to know about sudo or anyhting else. He wants to have java installed
[03:55] <soulrider_> pauljw: we went through this with him yesterday
[03:55] <jack_> LjL: so i just install dict-gcide and choose any dict and it should work? sounds so easy
[03:55] <elitehacker> i need frost wire to work
[03:55] <pauljw> soulrider_: I saw some of that exchange.  :(
[03:55] <soulrider_> pauljw: he isnt interested in reading anything at all.
[03:55] <pauljw> soulrider_: frustrating
[03:55] <soulrider_> indeed
[03:55] <LjL> jack_: no wait, dict-gcide *is* the dictionary (an english-english dictionary), while dictd is the actual server
[03:55] <pollyo> elitehacker: Did you install the java though adept?
[03:56] <elitehacker> frost wire_frusturrating
[03:56] <elitehacker> whast adept?
[03:56] <pollyo> elitehacker: Are you using kubuntu?
[03:56] <elitehacker> theres like 2 names for each progra,
[03:56] <elitehacker> yes
[03:56] <soulrider_> pollyo: i gave him several links to understand package management, but he wont read anything at all
[03:56] <elitehacker> i did
[03:56] <LjL> jack_: then to use it, you can use kdict (i think it's included by default)
[03:56] <elitehacker> i use sudo NOTHING WORKS
[03:56] <jack_> LjL:  i just found that out in synaptic, just missing the dict-gcide, server is already installed for some reason
[03:57] <elitehacker> all i need is java to run but instead i have to alter like files and stuff
[03:57] <pollyo> elitehacker: Click the "K" in the lowerleft and click "System" then click "Adept Manager"
[03:57] <jack_> LjL: no its not would you choose kdict overdict-gcide? or the same?
[03:57] <elitehacker> i know its just like winrar but this on wont open up .bin files
[03:57] <elitehacker> so theres no point
[03:58] <pollyo> elitehacker: Ok.  No point.  You've saved me time.
[03:58] <LjL> jack_, they're three different things, you need all three. dictd is the server, kdict is the GUI client for KDE, and dict-gcide is the actual dictionary data
[03:58] <jack_> ok, cool
[03:58] <elitehacker> it says java is installed
[03:58] <elitehacker> but it yet it wont run frostwire
[03:58] <jack_> LjL: thanks
[03:59] <soulrider_> !beryl
[03:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:59] <Filip^> elitehacker: Press the Kmenu button in the left-bottom corner of your screen. The button is probably blue. From "System" choose "Manage packages (Adept manager)". Type "Frostwire", confirm by pressing "Apply updates". Where does this not work?
[04:00] <elitehacker> theres no files
[04:00] <Filip^> after you type "frostwire", or before?
[04:00] <elitehacker> no
[04:00] <Filip^> to that question, you can either answer "after" or "before", not "no"
[04:01] <elitehacker> idk
[04:01] <Filip^> what don't you know?
[04:01] <elitehacker> omg nvm
[04:01] <elitehacker> i never typed it before
[04:02] <Filip^> what does "nvm" mean?
[04:02] <elitehacker> is there another p2p sharing that is .EXE!!!!!!! and doesnt use java
[04:02] <elitehacker> cant i run .exe in kubuntu?
[04:02] <pollyo> elitehacker: HAve you used adept to install anything?
[04:02] <Filip^> elitehacker: are you trying to run .exe's on linux?
[04:02] <elitehacker> nope
[04:02] <BluesKaj> frostwire sucks anyway
[04:02] <elitehacker> i used terminal to install frostwire
[04:03] <elitehacker> no its a .deb someone told me only those work
[04:03] <pollyo> elitehacker: You said it didn't install.
[04:03] <Filip^> you've never used adept manager?
[04:03] <elitehacker> yeah not on adept
[04:03] <pollyo> elitehacker: If you would take five minutes to look at adept you would be able to install quite a bit of software without trouble.
[04:03] <elitehacker> when i type in adpet nothinh comes up but when i do it int terminal it does come up as verifying java then a link comes up ww.java.com
[04:04] <Filip^> what type of things do you write in adept?
[04:04] <pollyo> elitehacker: No one suggested you type adept in a terminal.  Several people suggested you click the K in the lower corner of your screen.
[04:04] <danny500> HELLO!
[04:04] <elitehacker> but if i use adept will it install java from another soucre?
[04:05] <danny500> God, it's been forever since I've been here lol :)
[04:05] <pollyo> elitehacker: How did you come about getting that screen name?
[04:05] <elitehacker> i use windws
[04:05] <jack_> LjL: how do i need to configure the server in the kdict settings for offline use?
[04:05] <pauljw> lol
[04:05] <LjL> jack_: i think so, put "localhost" instead of the current server you have
[04:05] <elitehacker> now i can use windows like an exprt that partly the reason why i cant use linux
[04:05] <elitehacker> i have linux on my xbox but yet when it comes to pc ?
[04:06] <pollyo> elitehacker: Ok.  Goodday.
[04:06] <Filip^> elitehacker: yes, if you use adept, adept will handle all the additional programs frostwire requires
[04:06] <danny500> elitehacker
[04:06] <danny500> what your problem?
[04:06] <pollyo> Anyone know how to close frostwire?
[04:06] <elitehacker> yeah but is it like limewire if i search up java.bin or w.e it wil install
[04:06] <pollyo> When I attempt to close it the window simply minimizes.
[04:06] <jmichaelx> has anyone else experienced a major problem upgrading to kubuntu feisty beta? i upgraded by changing 'edgy' to 'feisty' in all instances in my sources.list, and doing a dist-upgrade. everything appeared to work, but when i reboot, i wind up getting 'busybox' and no bash. would anyone know whether or not there is still a hope of salvaging this system?
[04:06] <elitehacker> or its serching only installed programs in adept?
[04:06] <danny500> go to the Sun Java website lol
[04:07] <Filip^> pollyo: I didn't have that problem just now, but I suppose you could always "killall frostwire" in a terminal
[04:07] <elitehacker> hey if u dont know about my problem dont bother helping unless u hear everything i type WAY up there cuz u guys give me links i already know
[04:07] <pollyo> Filip^: I do not even see a Frostwire running.
[04:07] <jmichaelx> pollyo: sometimes frostwire will not close.... it does more often if you cancel all of your downloads.... you may try just using limewire instead
[04:07] <elitehacker> the only person helping is pollyo
[04:07] <Filip^> elitehacker: no, all available programs. Really, read some more about adept
[04:07] <danny500> i asked you what your problem was, don't get snippy with me
[04:08] <jack_> LjL:  ok, trying if it works offline now, c u tomoro maybe thanks again
[04:08] <Filip^> pollyo: you did "ps aux |grep frostwire" and nothing showed up?
[04:09] <pollyo> Yes!
[04:09] <elitehacker> so i get java.bin file rite the self extracting one now how do i open it up with adept when it wont seld extrat it self in terminal with out a root pass even when i put in sudo ./
[04:09] <pollyo> jmichaelx: I had to cancel some downloads and it closed.
[04:10] <Filip^> pollyo: so why do you have any reason to think it's still running? Is there a tray icon or something?
[04:10] <Filip^> elitehacker: please, just open adept manager (manage packages) from your start menu
[04:11] <pollyo> Filip^: Everytime I clocked close or clicked on the X to close the program it would simply minimize to the bar.
[04:11] <elitehacker> i dont understand that
[04:11] <Jonty> Can OOo spreadsheet do fill down?
[04:11] <pollyo> Filip^: After I canceled some downloads that didn't complete it closed without difficulty.
[04:12] <pollyo> Filip^: Does frostwire generally show as Frostwire in the processtable?
[04:13] <Filip^> pollyo: There's always the "xkill" command. Type it in a terminal, and click the forstwire window
[04:13] <FuGiTiVo> **----//----** http://www.colonessantafe.com.ar/php/modules.php?name=chat
[04:13] <elitehacker> wow kubuntu's virtual desktop thing looks very very very fimilar
[04:13] <Filip^> pollyo: I must admit I'd never heard of frostwire before today. I just installed to find out what "elitehacker"'s problems were
[04:13] <pollyo> Filip^: Oh...Thanks.  That will be useful.
[04:14] <Jonty> pollyo: Probably as java
[04:14] <Filip^> pollyo: It's a great command. In fact, there's a key-combo that does the same. Of course I forgot which one.
[04:14] <elitehacker> then what are my probs?
[04:14] <Jonty> pollyo: Use something like ps aux to find out what command was run (like java frostwire.jar or whatever)
[04:14] <elitehacker> Filip^: then whats my problems? when i need to install java not frostwire?
[04:15] <elitehacker> can u read?
[04:15] <Filip^> elitehacker: Did you start the adept manager already?
[04:15] <pollyo> elitehacker: You can install these thing using adept (for the most part)
[04:15] <elitehacker> yes i had it running like 3hours now
[04:15] <pollyo> elitehacker: Adept will install many programs for you.
[04:15] <elitehacker> so ure telling me I CAN USE adept to run JAVA.BIN FILES EH?
[04:15] <sinkorswim> I'm getting connection timeouts on "host -t mx" for ANY domain. does anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:15] <Filip^> elitehacker: when you start adept, do you see a long list of available packages?
[04:16] <elitehacker> i dont need adpet i need terminal to install java
[04:16] <pollyo> elitehacker: You can use Adept to install the Sun Java software packages.
[04:16] <blue|palm>  how do i fix usb devices not being recognised?
[04:16] <Filip^> elitehacker: NO, you NEED ADEPT TO INSTALL FROSTWIRE
[04:16] <elitehacker> i have tried nothing works?
[04:16] <archangel_> everytime I try to play a dvd with kafeine, I get a signal 11
[04:16] <elitehacker> it doesnt open up .bin files
[04:16] <Filip^> elitehacker: No, it doesn't, it helps you install frostwire the Kubuntu way
[04:17] <elitehacker> i DONT HAVE FROST WIRE THANKS
[04:17] <elitehacker> i DONT NEED IT RITE NOW
[04:17] <Filip^> elitehacker: you then run it by typing frostwire in a terminal, or by choosing frostwire from the menu
[04:17] <elitehacker> omg i need java no point getting frost wire when it needs java
[04:17] <Filip^> elitehacker: I'm lost. You want to install frostwire, right?
[04:17] <jmichaelx> what is the path to grub in kubuntu?
[04:17] <elitehacker> NO JAVA
[04:17] <elitehacker> java
[04:18] <elitehacker> Jah,,, EEE veee EH
[04:18] <pollyo> Is Frostwire in Adept?  Doesn't Adept also install dependent packages as well?
[04:18] <Filip^> it's in /boot/grub. It's mounted by default
[04:18] <jmichaelx> Filip^: ty
[04:18] <binks> pollyo: yes
[04:18] <Filip^> elitehacker: why do you need java?
[04:18] <pollyo> If Elitehacker selects Frostwire from the Adept list doesn't it also install Java runtime?
[04:18] <blue|palm> USB DEVICES DONT WORK
[04:18] <Filip^> pollyo: yes
[04:18] <elitehacker> omg why do i need java
[04:18] <elitehacker> lol
[04:19] <elitehacker> funnyest thing all day
[04:19] <blue|palm> sorry for shouting... but does ANYONE know what to do if usb devices no longer work...
[04:19] <elitehacker> GET NEW USB PORTS
[04:19] <pollyo> elitehacker: Is frostwire written in java?
[04:19] <Filip^> blue|palm: sorry...
[04:19] <blue|palm> :(
[04:19] <elitehacker> yes
[04:19] <binks> blue|palm: lsusb
[04:19] <Filip^> elitehacker: so when you install frostwire, you get java for free!
[04:19] <blue|palm> binks: what do you mean?
[04:19] <elitehacker> thats why i need java and not frostwire i dont care about limewire rip offd
[04:20] <elitehacker> NO JAVA
[04:20] <elitehacker> when i have it installed it wont run
[04:20] <blue|palm> binks: I ran it, and they show up
[04:20] <binks> what do u get from lsusb | blue|palm
[04:20] <elitehacker> it needs java
[04:20] <binks> so usb is ok what
[04:20] <Filip^> elitehacker: did you install frostwire using adept, because then you get java for free
[04:20] <blue|palm> binks: but the flash drives dont...
[04:20] <blue|palm> binks: or external hdd's
[04:20] <elitehacker> no i used terminal like the last person was trying to help me with
[04:20] <binks> pastebin lsusb
[04:21] <Filip^> elitehacker: if you're on edgy, you could also try automatix
[04:21] <elitehacker> no dont have that
[04:21] <Filip^> elitehacker: I understand, but you could install that
[04:21] <pollyo> elitehacker: Does Adept say you have frostwire installed?
[04:21] <elitehacker> alli need is javawhy is it not installng all i need is a root pass
[04:21] <Filip^> elitehacker: root password is the same password you use when logging in
[04:22] <elitehacker> no frostwire but yet terminal says i do ??? what happend
[04:22] <elitehacker> no its not
[04:22] <elitehacker> diff. pass
[04:22] <Filip^> elitehacker: on kubuntu, it is
[04:22] <elitehacker> nope
[04:22] <Filip^> elitehacker: because of the way kubuntu makes use of sudo
[04:22] <pauljw> yes it is, use sudo and your login password when prompted elitehacker
[04:22] <elitehacker> i did why do u thnk i am hear rite now
[04:22] <elitehacker> it says in the link u guys gave me
[04:23] <elitehacker> if i don run sudo u need root pass DIFFRENT from userpass
[04:23] <Filip^> elitehacker: frankly, I'm not sure why you're here anymore. What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[04:23] <Filip^> elitehacker: unless you used something like "sudo passwd", the root pass is the same as your userpass.
[04:23] <pollyo> elitehacker: When adept asks for the root password you enter your login name.
[04:24] <Filip^> pollyo: (well, not his name, his pass)
[04:24] <masterk> hi I need help installing a windows driver
[04:24] <pollyo> Thank you.
[04:24] <pollyo> elitehacker: You enter your password.
[04:24] <elitehacker> k all i need is java screw adept i cant use it to install java it says i need terminal
[04:24] <Filip^> elitehacker: what do you need java for?
[04:24] <masterk> after I install the driver and modprobe ndiswrapper it still doesn't detect the wifi card in the wifi manager
[04:24] <blue|palm> Does anybody know where the automount for usb storage media setting is?
[04:25] <pollyo> elitehacker: If you want java then you WILL use java.
[04:25] <masterk> but it says the hardware is present in ndiswrapper
[04:25] <Daisuke_Ido> masterk: depmod?
[04:25] <pollyo> elitehacker: You will use Adept that is...
[04:25] <pollyo> No sleep is it showing?
[04:25] <Filip^> elitehacker: When I installed frostwire just now, I automatically got java to come with it. Maybe your program also auto-installs java. If you use adept, of course
[04:25] <elitehacker> now i type in ./JRE-1_5_0_1.....bin and it says  enter root pass type in my user pass sorry access deniend i try it with sudo./jre_1_5_0 it says no such file
[04:25] <elitehacker> k tell me the frostwire install?
[04:26] <blue|palm> is there any virtual iso mounting software for ubuntu ?
[04:26] <Daisuke_Ido> elitehacker: because you forgot _1
[04:26] <Filip^> place a space between sudo and ./jre
[04:26] <masterk> Daisuke_Ido: what's that?
[04:26] <Filip^> elitehacker: and remeber: linux is case-sensitive
[04:26] <elitehacker> i no how to spell it correctly FILIP
[04:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and if that's the frostwire install i'm thinking of, it's from automatix, which is the devil
[04:26] <elitehacker> i am just giving ex.
[04:26] <pollyo> elitehacker: Try this type sudo ./JRE-1_5_0_1....
[04:26] <elitehacker> i did
[04:26] <elitehacker> nothing no file
[04:26] <elitehacker> tell me the frostwire install
[04:26] <elitehacker> i have the file already
[04:27] <elitehacker> so now i am opening it up in adept
[04:27] <Filip^> so when you type ls, the file is in the present directory?
[04:27] <pollyo> brb
[04:27] <Daisuke_Ido> wth?  you HAVE the file, why would you open it in adept?
[04:28] <elitehacker> k i opened frostwire.deb in adpet it asks for pass i type in now the program is not opeing up
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> of course it isn't.
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> dpkg -i <deb file>
[04:29] <elitehacker> syntax error
[04:29] <elitehacker> when i type in dpkg -i <deb file>
[04:29] <elitehacker> lol
[04:29] <LjL> syntax error?
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> did you put the name of the deb file in there instead of <deb file>?
[04:29] <elitehacker> yes
[04:30] <LjL> what error precisely?
[04:30] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: Can you paste *exactly* what you typed here for us?
[04:31] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$ dpkg -i <deb file>
[04:31] <elitehacker> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[04:31] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$ dpkg -i <frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb>
[04:31] <elitehacker> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[04:31] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$
[04:31] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: Get rid of the < and the >
[04:31] <elitehacker> see the first one is with out the file name rite
[04:31] <elitehacker> the second isnt
[04:31] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: Also, use sudo
[04:32] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: sudo dpkg -i frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[04:32] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$ dpkg -i frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[04:32] <elitehacker> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:32] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$
[04:32] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$ dpkg -i frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[04:32] <elitehacker> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:32] <elitehacker> elitehacker@monster:~$
[04:32] <pauljw> sorry folks, can't take any more of this.  bbl.  :)
[04:32] <elitehacker> sorry
[04:33] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: Use sudo, like I said above :)
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> elitehacker: use sudo
[04:33] <elitehacker> how sudo ./
[04:33] <elitehacker> is that what i type
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo dpkg -i frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[04:33] <Filip^> elitehacker: I still think you need to use adept. The click-by-click instructions are above. If you want to do it the terminal way, type "sudo dpkg -i frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb"
[04:33] <elitehacker> k now it works
[04:33] <pollyo> blu|palm: How about kiso?
[04:33] <elitehacker> reading database
[04:34] <elitehacker> now its unpaking replacemaent frostwire
[04:34] <elitehacker> now that it says setup frostwire and shows the line of my username@pc name : its done?
[04:35] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: Hopefully :)
[04:35] <elitehacker> k now i go into adept
[04:35] <elitehacker> k my biggest problem was not using sudo
[04:36] <elitehacker> k i went to open up adept and it closed
[04:36] <Filip^> elitehacker: adept is used for installing programs. Since you just installed, you don't need it anymore
[04:37] <elitehacker> wait it says frostwire is installed rite now waht about the java?
[04:37] <Filip^> elitehacker: If the install was succesful, you just need to type frostwire at a terminal
[04:37] <elitehacker> k
[04:37] <pollyo> elitehacker: Try typing "frostwire"
[04:37] <elitehacker> OPPS doesnt look like i have java
[04:38] <elitehacker> same thing it sayed before
[04:38] <kai> whats the name of the cd burning Software I need to get?
[04:38] <Filip^> kai: k3b?
[04:38] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: What happens if you just type java and press enter?
[04:38] <elitehacker> i still need java i ? what ppl are saying about they already comes with it
[04:38] <kai> the the cd  burnung software?
[04:38] <kai> I didn't know the name of it
[04:39] <pollyo> elitehacker: You have trouble listening friend.
[04:39] <elitehacker> to exucute jar file" something about invoke class
[04:39] <elitehacker> i just typed it
[04:39] <pollyo> elitehacker: People have been telling you if you use Adept to install software it will install required packages.
[04:39] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: What about "which java"
[04:40] <elitehacker> so why did u tell me to type in sudo deb file> in terminal then if i can use it in adept wich i cant cuz i wont open .deb files lmao
[04:40] <elitehacker> its installed in adept?
[04:40] <pollyo> elitehacker: Because you continued to insist on using the terminal after several people suggested you use Adept.
[04:40] <elitehacker> why dont i have java?
[04:40] <kai> what about mpr encoder
[04:40] <kai> ...is it abcd?
[04:40] <elitehacker> u sayed TYPE IN SUDO <DEBFILE>
[04:41] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: Type "which java" (without the quotes) and tell us what it says, please.
[04:41] <elitehacker> i cant open .deb files in adept
[04:41] <elitehacker> to invoke CLASS.main, or
[04:41] <elitehacker>        gij -jar [OPTION]  ... JARFILE [
[04:42] <elitehacker> so
[04:43] <elitehacker> java?
[04:43] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: Are you sured you typed "which" before java?
[04:44] <Filip^> elitehacker: perhaps you should understand that, for installing software in kubuntu, you do not need to download it first. That's what adept does for you. So adept doesn't need to open a deb file for you, it will download it's own files.
[04:44] <elitehacker> ohh
[04:44] <elitehacker> command not found
[04:44] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: Ok, try "whereis java"
[04:45] <elitehacker> in terminal
[04:45] <elitehacker> command not found
[04:45] <Filip^> elitehacker:  don't type " "
[04:45] <Filip^> elitehacker: which java
[04:46] <elitehacker> i knwo
[04:46] <elitehacker> it says command not found
[04:46] <Filip^> elitehacker: what happens if you just type "which"
[04:47] <elitehacker> wait i typed in which lol not wich and cam up usr/bin/java
[04:47] <Filip^> elitehacker: yes, I figured as much
[04:47] <Filip^> elitehacker: so java is installed then
[04:47] <elitehacker> lol somone sayed wich
[04:48] <elitehacker> yeah but it wont run frostwire
[04:48] <elitehacker> its got java 1.5
[04:48] <Filip^> elitehacker: I really appreciate that you try something different from windows, but you should really read up on using Adept. It will handle all of these problems for you.
[04:48] <elitehacker> i type in frost wire in termial and it says unable to locatelava
[04:49] <HymnToLife[] > !frostwire | elitehacker
[04:49] <ubotu> elitehacker: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:49] <elitehacker> i have frostwire installed what where u guys smokeing when u sayed it will install java for me?
[04:49] <pollyo> elitehacker: Try it without the space.
[04:49] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: You already have java installed.
[04:49] <pollyo> elitehacker: One word.
[04:49] <elitehacker> no
[04:50] <pollyo> elitehacker: "frostwire" not "frost wire"
[04:50] <elitehacker> wel tech. i do but i need java
[04:50] <elitehacker> like 6
[04:50] <elitehacker> i did put frostwire
[04:50] <elitehacker> OPPS UNABLE TO LOCATE JAVA
[04:50] <Filip^> pollyo: I tried that. it's not his problem, as the error message is "unable to locate java"
[04:50] <elitehacker> yes
[04:50] <elitehacker> thank u
[04:50] <HymnToLife[] > elitehacker, see the link ubotu gave you
[04:50] <elitehacker> i need to upgrade JRE1.5
[04:51] <elitehacker> its already installed
[04:51] <Filip^> elitehacker: try " sudo apt-get install frostwire" and see if that'll give you the correct java version
[04:51] <elitehacker> i need java
[04:52] <elitehacker> now my password is incorrect
[04:52] <Filip^> elitehacker: try again, you probably just made a typo
[04:52] <elitehacker> frostwire is already the newest ver.
[04:52] <elitehacker> i have it installed but no java
[04:53] <elitehacker> cant i update this kubuntu so i has already java on it?
[04:53] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: You already have java.  I'm not sure if it's a recent enough version, though.
[04:53] <elitehacker> no its JRE1.5
[04:54] <elitehacker> the default java that the kubuntu comes with
[04:54] <Filip^> elitehacker: "> frostwire is already the newest ver." Is this what the command says?
[04:54] <elitehacker> yes
[04:54] <HymnToLife[] > SSJ_GZ, how can you tell he already has Java ?
[04:55] <pollyo> SSJ_GZ: I 1.6 works with it... Suitable java verson found java = 1.6.0
[04:55] <SSJ_GZ> HymnToLife[] : Because "which java" returns /usr/bin/java
[04:55] <elitehacker> all i need is java which brings me back all the way to the top of this chat
[04:56] <pollyo> SSJ_GZ: Can elitehacker type apt-get install sun-java5*
[04:57] <Filip^> elitehacker: Yes, we understood, but adept would've given you the correct java version. It just did for me
[04:57] <elitehacker> nope 13 permissions denied
[04:57] <Filip^> elitehacker: sudo apt-get install sun-java5*
[04:57] <SSJ_GZ> pollyo: You forgot the sudo
[04:57] <elitehacker> when i type in adept
[04:57] <elitehacker> no ididnt
[04:57] <pollyo> Filip^SSJ_GZ: Yes
[04:58] <elitehacker> couldnt find package
[04:58] <pollyo> elitehacker: In terminal try "sudo apt-get install sun-java5*
[04:58] <soulrider> damn, he is still trying ot get it installed? =/
[04:58] <elitehacker> i did no package
[04:59] <elitehacker> yeah
[04:59] <elitehacker> they tell me 8diff things
[04:59] <soulrider> well
[04:59] <soulrider> if you had read the links i gave you
[04:59] <elitehacker> COUNLDNT FIND PACKAGE
[04:59] <soulrider> youl would have gotten it installed already
[04:59] <elitehacker> no
[04:59] <elitehacker> cuz it doesnt work
[04:59] <elitehacker> no java works on my pc idk why
[05:00] <elitehacker> its cuz i use windows prb
[05:00] <SSJ_GZ> How come frostwire isn't in the repos, anyway? It's Free Software, isn't it?
[05:00] <soulrider> uhm..... no
[05:01] <Filip^> SSJ_GZ: It is, I just installed it just to see what kind of problems come up. Actually, none came up
[05:01] <elitehacker> so i tryed adpet get sun java5 and that didnt work
[05:01] <Filip^> SSJ_GZ: Although it may be in the uni or multi
[05:01] <elitehacker> does x-link kai work on linux?
[05:01] <elitehacker> never mind that would be a headache to install x-link
[05:02] <SSJ_GZ> Filip^: Odd - I have all the repos enabled, and apt-cache search frostwire turns up nothing.
[05:02] <SSJ_GZ> Filip^: I'm using Dapper, though.
[05:02] <Filip^> SSJ_GZ: I'm using feisty
[05:02] <elitehacker> so i have a jre-.bin file but yet cant open it up
[05:02] <Filip^> SSJ_GZ: Sorry, I meant to say Edgy
[05:02] <SSJ_GZ> Filip^: Maybe that's why, then.
[05:03] <SSJ_GZ> Filip^: Heh
[05:03] <elitehacker> how do i install .bin files?
[05:03] <elitehacker> terminal it wont use it it says no file or directory
[05:04] <SSJ_GZ> elitehacker: What is the result of "ls *.bin"?
[05:04] <elitehacker> whats that?
[05:04] <elitehacker> i type in sudo ./