[00:03] <dscassel> Holla!
[00:04] <dscassel> Sadly, I need to do this from my phone. Hardware problems.
[00:05] <eightfold> howdy, i'm about to by my first laptop that i plan to run solely linux on.
[00:06] <eightfold> xubuntu or ubuntu is what i plan to install
[00:06] <eightfold> and this is the laptop https://shop.lenovo.com/ilind/IL/en/learn/products/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-edge/e135/index.html
[00:07] <arrrghhh2> Hey all.  I have 12.04 on a laptop, and acroread fails to launch from Firefox - I can launch acroread from cli, but when I open a PDF from Firefox, I get an error about the PATH.  When I run Firefox from command-line and open a PDF, I can see a permission denied error.
[00:07] <eightfold> however, it seems there are not so many linux reports on this machine. it has an AMD E-Series E-300 1.3 GHz cpu with AMD Radeon HD6310M graphics
[00:07] <eightfold> do you think it will rock ubuntu?
[00:07] <dr_willis> Radeon can be problematic..
[00:08] <arrrghhh2> eightfold: best way is using the livecd... but since you haven't bought it yet, and you MUST have linux - have you looked at system76?
[00:08] <dr_willis> but it could work fine.. it just depends on the exact chipset
[00:08] <eightfold> there's this: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201206-11151/
[00:08] <eightfold> but it doesn't share exactly the same cpu
[00:09] <eightfold> and gpu isn't mentioned
[00:10] <eightfold> arrrghhh2: no, i haven't. this comes so cheap right now so it's either buying this or buying nothing
[00:10] <eightfold> http://ubuntuforums.org/ seems to be down btw
[00:10] <arrrghhh2> eightfold: uhm... ok?
[00:11] <arrrghhh2> ubuntuforums.org is not down... use downforeveryone.com.
[00:12] <eightfold> arrrghhh2: should have checked before saying anything. well, rest of the intarwebs works here. except for http://ubuntuforums.org/
[00:12] <eightfold> might be some dns problem on my side
[00:12] <arrrghhh2> ok...
[00:12] <eightfold> might = must
[00:12] <arrrghhh2> anyhoo, I actually have a support question.
[00:12] <arrrghhh2> anyone have experience with acroread failing to launch from Firefox?
[00:13] <dwarder> hello
[00:13] <arrrghhh2> this thread summarizes my issues http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2034837
[00:14] <dwarder> i have a default vnc server installed - vino, i was wondering is it possible for a user to connect to another "display" so that it is not mirroring the main display?
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: I use chrome, its all built in :)
[00:16] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: this isn't my machine... I don't really have a choice of using another browser/pdf viewer.
[00:16] <arrrghhh2> this used to work great... i don't understand what changed... it seems permissions related, but I can't figure out why.
[00:17] <almoxarife> dwarder: believe so, but you have to serve up the other display, x11vnc something does it
[00:17] <ubuntu-studio> Hi friends, my ubuntu 12.10 install is crashing upon startup and I'm attempted to diangose the log files in the /var folder but they are blank, i can get to a command line booting from the installed OS or a live cd option... could anyone assist please?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: launch the browser from terminal, it may give clues in the output
[00:18] <almoxarife> acroread is a ram hog
[00:18] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: yup, done that... which is why i think it's permissions.  would you mind helping?
[00:18] <dr_willis> arrrghhh2:  if the terminal stuff gives no errors, next thing i  would do would be making a new user. and seeing if the issue affects them. and test in the guest account.
[00:18] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: tried that as well.  issue follows the new user account.
[00:18] <arrrghhh2> terminal gives an error, but i don't know where to go with it.
[00:19] <dr_willis> can you run acroread stand alone from the terminal?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: i have little expeience of both
[00:19] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: yup.  would you mind reading this thread?  it details my issue exactly.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12368401#post12368401
[00:19] <dwarder> almoxarife: so i won't be able to do this with vino,right? i'll have to install x11vnc?
[00:19] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: OK thanks anyways :)
[00:20] <almoxarife> dwarder: i dont know enough about vino to make decision either way
[00:21] <dr_willis> arrrghhh2:  where exactly is libBIB.so  could be the binary is looking for it in the current directory where it was called from
[00:21] <dr_willis> how did you install that acroread anyway? normally the package manager dosent put stuff in /opt/ i thought
[00:22] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: it's in /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/lib - and when I run acroread and look at lsof and grep for acro, it shows libBIB in use.
[00:22] <dwarder> almoxarife: ok got it installed and running
[00:22] <arrrghhh2> and whether i install from the partner repo or get it directly from Adobe, it always installs to /opt dr_willis ... not sure why
[00:22] <johnnyonflame> I need a little help cleaning my build environment
[00:22] <dwarder> almoxarife: so i guess i just need to connect to 5901
[00:22] <dwarder> almoxarife: as opposed to 5600
[00:22] <dwarder> almoxarife: right?
[00:23] <dr_willis> arrrghhh2:  you could alter the library search path to include /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/lib  perhaps..
[00:23] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: can you expand on that?  not sure how that works...
[00:23] <dr_willis> arrrghhh2:  look in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/
[00:23] <arrrghhh2> why would running acroread work, but running /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread doesn't?
[00:23] <arrrghhh2> OK
[00:23] <dr_willis> each file adds a path to the default lib path. try making one to add that acroread lib path
[00:24] <dr_willis> i would GUESS one being called from a diffrent direcory is causing it to look somewhere else for that lib.
[00:24] <almoxarife> dwarder: sounds like the right port, i found it opening multiple ports as i chose new displays, like i said, i dabbled with it just long enough to figure out that vnc'ing in from android was going to be a pain
[00:24] <dr_willis> i dont have acroread here at all. :) never seen a need to install it.
[00:24] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: do you have an example of how to add it?  i looked at all three .conf files in that folder, and it doesn't make a lot of sense...
[00:24] <arrrghhh2> ah ok... no worries.
[00:25] <dr_willis> arrrghhh2:  each file just contains a path..
[00:25] <dr_willis> cat libc.conf   # libc default configuration
[00:25] <dr_willis> /usr/local/lib
[00:25] <dr_willis> a comment. and a path. ;) about as simple as it gets
[00:25] <arrrghhh2> so just put the lib path?  OK
[00:25] <johnnyonflame> How can I clean up my build environment?
[00:25] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: too simple.  :P  do i need to restart any services?
[00:25] <johnnyonflame> It is all screwed up and wont compile properly anymore
[00:25] <almoxarife> dwarder: and anyway, what is wrong with a nice x-window via ssh?
[00:26] <dr_willis> arrrghhh2:  no idea.ive not had to mess with the lib paths in years. used to be you would run ldconfig
[00:26] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame, I like to make build dir and then from there I just cd <source>/build/rm *
[00:26] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: cool thx
[00:26] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame, what is lang ? got a branch ?
[00:26] <johnnyonflame> bobweaver, no, what I mean is
[00:26] <johnnyonflame> I installed some packages
[00:26] <johnnyonflame> and I cant compile stuff anymore
[00:26] <dr_willis> arrrghhh2:  of course used to be you had a single ld.so.conf file :) not a directory of files..
[00:26] <johnnyonflame> due to LOADS of random incompatibilities
[00:27] <johnnyonflame> I need to clean up everything and start from scratch
[00:27] <otend> if I were to reformat my hard drive, and my Ubuntu partition to be thrown back on the drive is not the first partition on the drive at this point, what would I need to do?
[00:27] <johnnyonflame> and right now a full reinstall is not an optopn
[00:27] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: hrm.  well I'll reboot this machine just to be sure.  brb.  it didn't make a difference so far.
[00:27] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  ok I c what is it that you are trying to compile? what libs are needed ect. is this cmake ? make ? ect
[00:28] <johnnyonflame> bobweaver, everything, I have sources that use cmake, ones that use make
[00:28] <johnnyonflame> etc
[00:28] <johnnyonflame> I need to remove all gcc stuff, etc
[00:28] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame, you use update-alternitives ?
[00:28] <johnnyonflame> I don't use it for quite a while
[00:29] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  if you are to just typ this into the computer sudo update-alternatives --config <TAB TAB TAB >
[00:29] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame, do you see the options that you can use like gcc ect
[00:29] <bobweaver> you can set what version{s} you would like to use
[00:30] <bobweaver> cmake clean up  CMakeList.txt
[00:30] <bobweaver> so that things match if you can not then fix the libs in the program ?
[00:30] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  ^^
[00:31] <johnnyonflame> bobweaver, I get 125 references hitting tab
[00:31] <DerpyDerp> I was wondering if anyone knows how to make the Computer desktop display (From Tweak Ubuntu) can look more like Disk Usage Analyzer for a GUI.
[00:32] <bobweaver> yeah there is 125 things that you can configure then johnnyonflame  there is also " update-alternatives --query "
[00:32] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  like "update-alternatives --query gcc "
[00:32] <johnnyonflame> there's no query here
[00:32] <johnnyonflame> oh there is sorry
[00:32] <arrrghhh2> dr_willis: no dice :(
[00:33] <johnnyonflame> uh, nothing on gcc
[00:33] <arrrghhh2> /usr/bin/acroread: 23: exec: /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: Permission denied
[00:33] <johnnyonflame> damn I think I'll end up having to do a clean install
[00:33] <johnnyonflame> :|
[00:33] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  you are sure that there is different versions ?
[00:33] <smacktalk1> anyone know how to get ntfs working on ubuntu?
[00:33] <DerpyDerp> I was wondering if anyone knows how to make the Computer desktop display (From Tweak Ubuntu) can look more like Disk Usage Analyzer for a GUI?
[00:33] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  sometimes it is best to use things like "testdrive "
[00:33] <arrrghhh2> smacktalk1: unless you're on some ancient version of Ubuntu, it should "just work"
[00:33] <bobweaver> !info testdrive | johnnyonflame
[00:33] <blackshirt> smacktalk1, ntfs was working greatly under linux
[00:34] <blackshirt> !ntfs-3g
[00:34] <johnnyonflame> yeah looks good
[00:34] <smacktalk1> thanks blackshirt!
[00:35] <blackshirt> good luck ...
[00:35] <johnnyonflame> /usr/bin/ld: ../../libs/video/targets/.libs/libQFx11.a(libQFx11_la-vid_x11.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlsym@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
[00:35] <johnnyonflame> I am getting all sorts of crap during linking processes
[00:35] <DerpyDerp> Anyone?
[00:35] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  got a branch ?
[00:35] <johnnyonflame> a... branch?
[00:35] <blackshirt> !ask | derpyderp
[00:36] <DerpyDerp> I did ask it blackshirt.
[00:36] <bobweaver> !info conky | DerpyDerp
[00:36] <bobweaver> !info Screenlets | DerpyDerp
[00:36] <bobweaver> er
[00:36] <johnnyonflame> bobweaver, you mean sources?
[00:36] <bobweaver> correct johnnyonflame
[00:36] <johnnyonflame> git clone --depth 1 git://git.quakeforge.net/gitroot/quake/quakeforge
[00:36] <bobweaver> like branchs of code on git launchoad google coide ect
[00:36] <DerpyDerp> !info sources | DerpyDerp
[00:37] <bobweaver> Oo ing
[00:37] <DerpyDerp> Not sure what johnnyonflame meant.
[00:37] <bobweaver> DerpyDerp,  look for screenlets in sidtware center
[00:37] <DerpyDerp> K.
[00:37] <bobweaver> DerpyDerp,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2079752
[00:37] <arrrghhh2> anyone have experience with acroread and firefox?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2034837
[00:37] <bobweaver> conky ^^
[00:37] <johnnyonflame> bobweaver, that is the command to clone the sources
[00:38] <bobweaver> !info quakeforge
[00:38] <bobweaver> Er
[00:38] <blackshirt> arrghhh2, why do you need acro read ... They have a bad reputation for linux
[00:39] <otend> to potentially reiterate the question from earlier while combining it with clarification: if I were to clear a hard drive aside from an Ubuntu partition at the end, what would I need to do to extend the Ubuntu partition backwards?
[00:39] <arrrghhh2> blackshirt: because the document viewer app doesn't let you modify forms... so if you have a PDF that is a form, you need acroread.
[00:39] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  that is a big project wonder if there is deb somewhere ?
[00:39] <johnnyonflame> bobweaver, I actually NEED to build this
[00:39] <ubuntu> Does any body here know how to install rar and unrar on ubuntu?
[00:40] <johnnyonflame> just having the deb in hands wouldn't help much here
[00:40] <crimsonmane> otend: boot from a live CD or live USB and use GPARTED to resize the partition. note: the drive must not be mounted, so do not open it in a file browser
[00:40] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  what is your Ubuntu version ?
[00:40] <arrrghhh2> Guest95371: sudo apt-get install rar
[00:40] <otend> would anything more need to be done if resizing backwards?
[00:40] <johnnyonflame> bobweaver, 12.04 iirc
[00:40] <Guest95371> arrrghhh2: thank man !
[00:40] <arrrghhh2> np
[00:40] <blackshirt> ubuntu, rar just a archive file format
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest95371: also install p7zip-rar p7zipfull unp unrar rar
[00:41] <bobweaver> johnnyonflame,  lets see compile errors plz in pastebin
[00:41] <arrrghhh2> oh right forgot about unrar
[00:41] <bobweaver> FULL errors
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: its also a command
[00:41] <arrrghhh2> derp
[00:41] <Guest95371> arrrghhh2: Im trying to install it on live cd but I cant it says couldnt find pakage
[00:41] <muji> hey, does anyone know why when i press the fn+lower brightness button, it only shows the screen darkning but it doesn't actually do it?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest95371: unp allows you to extract any achive type with one command, dead handy
[00:41] <johnnyonflame> bobweaver, there ain't much but /usr/bin/ld: ../../libs/video/targets/.libs/libQFx11.a(libQFx11_la-vid_x11.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlsym@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
[00:41] <arrrghhh2> Guest95371: why are you installing things on the livecd?  you can, but it won't persist
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> muji: what model system?
[00:41] <johnnyonflame> and /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
[00:42] <Guest95371> arrrghhh2: because I need to take some info from a server to fix it
[00:42] <muji> i have a vaio f series laptop
[00:42] <arrrghhh2> uhm... ok...
[00:42] <Guest95371> ActionParsnip: arrrghhh2 ActionParsnip  it says Package p7zip-rar is not available
[00:42] <arrrghhh2> Guest95371: what are you actually doing?  you can't use zip?
[00:43] <Guest95371> Im trying to install it in a live cd
[00:43] <muji> ActionParsnip: i have a vaio f series laptop, model vpcf23jfx/b
[00:43] <Guest95371> arrrghhh2: I can use it but I need to press in rar
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> !info  p7zip-rar
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest95371: enable the multiverse repo
[00:43] <arrrghhh2> Guest95371: so move it off the machine?  you haven't really described why you need rar
[00:44] <smacktalk1> maybe that's not what I need ...i'm trying to connect to a freenas cifs share...
[00:44] <arrrghhh2> smacktalk1: samba client is included in Ubuntu
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> muji: tried the boot option: acpi_backlight=video
[00:45] <Guest95371> ActionParsnip: arrrghhh2 Thank you guys I just got it
[00:46] <arrrghhh2> k
[00:46] <muji> ActionParsnip: where do i type that?
[00:48] <veryhappy> help guys... i messed up my kde, i tried to remove all the other stuff not needed for my graphics driver that was activated because i wanted to have the latest nvidia driver and now i have the latest nvidia driver running but i don't have window decorations anymore... all windows appear in the left upper edge of my kde what shall i do???
[00:48] <veryhappy> the install btw is a new fresh install from today
[00:48] <arrrghhh2> veryhappy: might have better luck in #kubuntu
[00:49] <veryhappy> ok thanks
[00:49] <arrrghhh2> np
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | muji
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Vert: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  kwin --replace
[00:50] <ericab> ho ho ho, haaaapy thanksgiving
[00:50] <muji> i don't see acpi_backlight on the site
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> muji: you won't but you add it in the same way, try reading between the lines
[00:50] <muji> i see, thanks
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> muji: there are LOTS of different boot options, you won't get them ALL on tyhe page, its not feasible
[00:51] <Vert> ActionParsnip: What?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Vert: wassup?
[00:52] <arrrghhh2> Vert: he meant to send that message to someone else
[00:52] <arrrghhh2> who left
[00:52] <Vert> You highlighted me?
[00:52] <Vert> Oh okay
[00:52] <arrrghhh2> :)
[00:56] <blackshirt> hello
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Vert: sorry, wrong target (tab fail) :)
[00:58] <arrrghhh2> so.. any suggestions?  acroread issues with Firefox?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: doesn't firefox have a list of apps to use when it gets files opened in it, and what apps to use
[00:59] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: I installed Chromium, and it just saves the PDF file...
[00:59] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: yep.  doesn't seem to matter how I tell it to use acroread, it always fails.
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: chromium doesn't have the inbuilt PDF reader, chrome does
[00:59] <Vert> It's k. I was just mildly confused. I've asked questions about kwin in the past so I was wondering if someone had checked their IRC after like 6 months or something. :p
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: what happens when you try to open a PDF?
[00:59] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: uhm... K.  I only saw Chromium in the repo
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: in firefox
[01:00] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: I get an error about how it's not in the path
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: yes, chrome isn't in the repos
[01:00] <arrrghhh2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2034837 ActionParsnip
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: how did you install acroread?
[01:00] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: i've tried directly from Adobe, and the Partner repo.
[01:01] <arrrghhh2> I prefer the Partner repo, but it doesn't seem like Adobe is providing any Linux updates... for anything...
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[01:01] <p0rk> does installing KVM with Ubunuta do anything different to the filesystem or grub than it does if you install without KVM?
[01:01] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: 1 sec.  it's 12.04
[01:01] <arrrghhh2> precise Linux my-laptop 3.2.0-32-generic-pae #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:54:23 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[01:01] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: ^^
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: what is the output of: ls -l /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread
[01:02] <brad_> do they make a distro just for black people?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> brad_: that is offtopic here
[01:02] <brad_> how so?
[01:02] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24525572 Mar 28  2012 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> brad_: its not an ubuntu support question
[01:03] <brad_> i have black cousins, and they dont like unity
[01:03] <p0rk> wtf would race have to do with distro?
[01:03] <arrrghhh2> p0rk: don't feed the trolls...
[01:03] <p0rk> i dont like unity either and im white
[01:03] <arrrghhh2> lol
[01:03] <arrrghhh2> ok, that was funny
[01:03] <p0rk> im not feeding him
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> brad_: then tell them to try a different desktop to Gnome. The colour of their skin is irrelevant
[01:03] <p0rk> he wants to say some dumb sh!t, i want him to substantiate that dumb sh!t with fact
[01:03] <brad_> you got me..
[01:03] <arrrghhh2> meh
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> brad_: got you how...
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: if you run: /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread   does it launch?
[01:04] <brad_> quantal 12.10 keeps downloading child porn to my desktop, is that a known issue?
[01:05] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: that's the strangest part - it does not.  if i run /usr/bin/acroread it runs, if i run /opt/Adobe/Reader9/bin/acroread, it runs.
[01:05] <brad_> 12.04 always downloaded latina shit... but it was mostly legal
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: have you told firefox to use the longer file name to run the reader?
[01:05] <brad_> what im getting now is just outrageous
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> !ops | brad_ bored now
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: cheers
[01:06] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: I've tried telling Firefox to run it from all three file locations... none work.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: if you install another PDF reader and tell firefox to use that, is it ok?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: hmm, i may have a sneaky workaround
[01:07] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: like document viewer?
[01:07] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: At this point, I don't really care so long as it works lol
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> http://www.geek.com/articles/news/this-is-what-firefoxs-built-in-pdf-reader-looks-like-20111027/
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: cd $HOME; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb; rm ./google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: try chrome
[01:10] <arrrghhh2> hrm.  I can see if he likes it...
[01:10] <p0rk> does installing KVM with Ubunuta do anything different to the filesystem or grub than it does if you install without KVM?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: worth a try, it can be removed :)
[01:13] <arrrghhh2> ActionParsnip: indeed.  I noticed that FF article is over a year old - that PDF viewer still isn't part of FF?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh2: no, it'll need adding. NOt sure if it works with newer versions
[01:14] <TeamColtra> Hey everyone, happy thanksgiving. I am trying to figure out why my laptop keeps going to a black screen on me… it happens usually when I am watching a video (XBMC or VLC) and assume it has something to do with my video card since my video card was having issues after I upgraded to Quantas (or whatever Q word)
[01:15] <TeamColtra> but I don't know where to start to find out what is happening and it seems nearly random
[01:15] <ubuntu-studio> can someone please help me restore my xorg file? im getting permissions issue and can't go to a different terminal
[01:15] <cakeboss> Hey all. I am wanting to make a shortcut to a file that requires super user permissions. How do I do that via terminal?
[01:16] <TeamColtra> ubuntu-studio sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: what video chip do you use?
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> cakeboss: sudo ln -s
[01:16] <cakeboss> tonyyarusso: thanks
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: you can make a script to run:  gksudo /path/to/command
[01:17] <TeamColtra> ActionParsnip Radion somethinger-other. How do I check the exact card? lspci or something?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: a simple symlink will still only run as user
[01:17] <zatan> ActionParsnip hi how can I set to allow to erveryone read permission on folder ?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: lspci | grep -i vga
[01:17] <cakeboss> ActionParsnip: Ill just whip something up in python then, I suppose
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> cakeboss: oh, wait - do you actually mean a shortcut to run something?
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> cakeboss: I may have misread.
[01:17] <cakeboss> tonyyarusso: yes
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> then yeah, what he said
[01:17] <cakeboss> tonyyarusso: I need to edit this file on a regular basis
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> what file?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> zatan: chmod a+r /path/to/folder     to apply to ALL subfiles and subfolders use:  chmod -R a+r /path/to/folder
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> Would it be more appropriate to add yourself to a group with write permission to it?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> cakeboss: its a 2 line bash script....
[01:18] <cakeboss> ActionParsnip: j
[01:18] <cakeboss> k*
[01:19] <dwarder> what to use instead of dreamweaver?
[01:19] <TeamColtra> ActionParsnip lspci | grep -i vga returns nothing (moves down to the next line in terminal)
[01:19] <zatan> ActionParsnip, nice thank u :)
[01:19] <ubuntu-studio> thank you teamcoltra bro
[01:19] <dwarder> on ubuntu
[01:19] <p0rk> twice in a row ive installed 12.04 fresh install and both times i get a corrupted fstab
[01:19] <dwarder> i.e. edid web pages
[01:19] <dwarder> edit
[01:19] <dwarder> web masters here?
[01:20] <TeamColtra> ActionParsnip but I just ran lspci and found it
[01:20] <bazhang> !html | dwarder
[01:20] <TeamColtra> ATI RS880 HDMI Audio [ Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:20] <dwarder> bazhang: which one should i try?
[01:21] <TeamColtra> dwarder there was one I think it was called genie or something and it was really good. Bluefish is nice but bloated.
[01:22] <TeamColtra> ActionParsnip Quantal
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> TeamColtra: The Xorg in Quantal hates Ati 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx GPUs. This PPA will help: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[01:22] <TeamColtra> I was so close with Quantas
[01:22] <dwarder> TeamColtra: the only feature i realy need is to show me a preview while i'm edit html, that is all i need i think
[01:22] <TeamColtra> :D
[01:22] <TeamColtra> dwarder hmm I don't know about that one, sorry
[01:22] <delac> is it possible to search files from gnome-shell on 12.10?
[01:23] <dwarder> hmm hoe do i enable long press?
[01:23] <dwarder> i.e. i press backspace for a long time and it starts to press itself fast
[01:23] <dwarder> or any key
[01:23] <dwarder> somehow i have it disabled
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> delac: in s a terminal, run:  sudo updatedb
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> delac: when it finishes, you can use the locate command to search for files, and fast
[01:25] <mds-> hello i have a question.. i ran out of blank cds and i want to install ubuntu from a dvd. can someone help me try to decide which iso to get either i386, or amd64 is a compaq presario laptop series vpcel
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> mds-: what CPU do you use and how much RAM do you have?
[01:25] <mds-> i have 4 GB
[01:25] <mds-> and is amd i believe
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> mds-: Its probably a 64bit CPU, use 64bit Ubuntu :)
[01:26] <mds-> amd e-450 apu
[01:26] <delac> ActionParsnip: does not seem to work. you sure there is nothing I should install? I'm talking about using the gnome-shell overview to find those files.
[01:26] <mds-> ActionParsnip can you give me the url to download the iso so i can burn it to a dvd.
[01:26] <mds-> does ubuntu has or have any dvd isos?
[01:27] <mds-> i'm downloading this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> mds-: yes
[01:27] <mds-> is it correct?
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> or at least has in the past
[01:28] <mds-> is that the right isO?
[01:28] <emman> Hi anybody has experience with zoneminder
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> mds-: looks fine, I use cdimage as well
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> mds-: as long as it passes MD5 test in the official site then source is moot
[01:28] <Ry`> Hi. I'm looking for the alternative download ISO for 12.10 but can't find it -anywhere-, can anyone assist?
[01:28] <DerpyDerp> Ok... the Conky solution and the Screenlets solution isn't what I wanted at all.
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Ry`: there isn't one
[01:28] <Ry`> ActionParsnip: Then I can't use ubuntu. Why isn't there one?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Ry`: you can use the mini iso if you want a text installer
[01:28] <mds-> ActionParsnip so it might be a bad image the one I'm downloading?
[01:29] <corvaxia> What is the best way to stream from my workstation (12.10) to my nexus 7?
[01:29] <Ry`> mini iso?
[01:29] <DerpyDerp> I want to be able to view all the volumes in Computer (on the desktop placed by Tweak Ubuntu) properly--space remaining, total space, VolID, etc.
[01:29] <DerpyDerp> Conky and Screenlets has nothing to do with this.
[01:30] <bazhang> DerpyDerp, gnome-shell has extensions for that
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Ry`: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Drops-Alternate-CDs-from-Ubuntu-12-10-289338.shtml
[01:30] <DerpyDerp> bazhang: Like?
[01:30] <Ry`> ActionParsnip: That doesn't help people with unsupported video cards
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Ry`: yes, it installs a very small subset of the OS (no gui) and you can install packages as you need from there. It installs using the web
[01:30] <bazhang> DerpyDerp, go check their webpage
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Ry`: the mini iso installs in text mode
[01:30] <Ry`> Where is the mini iso?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Ry`: did you try various boot options for fixing video issues?
[01:31] <DerpyDerp> bazhang: Keep in mind that I'm using the unity display as it is Ubuntu 12.10
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> !mini | Ry`
[01:31] <bazhang> DerpyDerp, then you'd want unity lenses
[01:31] <Ry`> Thanks, ubottu and ActionParsnip.
[01:31]  * DerpyDerp looks up unity lenses.
[01:31] <Ry`> We'll see if it gives me enough tools to do what I need.
[01:32] <bazhang> DerpyDerp, gnome-shell is available for 12.10; I have it installed
[01:32] <DerpyDerp> bazhang: Wouldn't gnome-shell conflict with unity? They can't be running simultaneously... can they?
[01:33] <bazhang> DerpyDerp, they are both shells, so need to run seperately
[01:33] <DerpyDerp> bazhang: Ya, I don't want to do that just for a nicer UI.
[01:34] <DerpyDerp> I'll look into this Unity Lenses that you mentioned.
[01:35] <ShaneO> Welcome FRodrigues! You have achieved a new peak of 1564 users for #ubuntu!
[01:36] <bazhang> ShaneO, ?
[01:36] <ShaneO> hmm sorry idk what triggered that
[01:37] <DerpyDerp> bazhang: Did you mean "Unity GITHub Lens" package?
[01:38] <FRodrigues> hi! How do I set permanent Environment Variables?
[01:39] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available   DerpyDerp
[01:43] <mds-> is 12.04 a good iso to install?
[01:43] <mds-> or i just get the other one... 12.10? instead?
[01:45] <TeamColtra> Okay new problem: ActionParsnip I installed that PPA you suggested, but now my laptop shows the purple screen when it boots (solid - no ubuntu logo) then blank screen. Ctrl+Alt F2/3/4/5 do not take me into terminal
[01:46] <TeamColtra> and I tried to boot into grub, and that also only shows a blank screen
[01:46] <DerpyDerp> Thanks bazhang, going to restart.
[01:51] <rion> can anyone help with mount/unmount issues?
[01:52] <ubuntu-studio> can someone please help me to restore my xorg from the live cd
[01:53] <rion> can anyone help with mount/unmount issues?
[01:53] <ubuntu-studio> ive read through guides but am having no luck
[01:53] <ubuntu-studio> my xorg is hosed and when i boot normally i can't get a terminal, please help a noob bros
[01:53] <mickster04> !anyway
[01:53] <mickster04> !anyone
[01:55] <rion> I am trying to mount my windows 7 partition in order to access my files in ubuntu. every time i try to do so i get an error message saying that the file system is in use. help?
[01:55] <gordonjcp> rion: post the error message *verbatim*
[01:55] <rion> okay give me one sec, thank you
[02:00] <rion> im not getting the same error message anymore, just long instructions on how to mount
[02:01] <rion> i looked in gparted and it says that its mounted in /host. i tried to unmount so i can remount in a different directory but i can't do so because "umount: /host: device is busy.
[02:01] <rion>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[02:01] <rion>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))"
[02:03] <gordonjcp> gparted is probably not what you want
[02:03] <gordonjcp> the error message tells you exactly why you can't unmount it, something is using a file in the mounted file system
[02:03] <bazhang> rion, is this a wubi install
[02:03] <gordonjcp> it could be even something as daft as your current directory is in the mounted file system
[02:04] <rion> yes it is a wubi install
[02:04] <gordonjcp> oh
[02:04] <gordonjcp> oh no idea, then
[02:04] <bazhang> that would explain it
[02:04] <gordonjcp> wubi is horrile
[02:04] <rion> " it could be even something as daft as your current directory is in the mounted file system" - how do i go about fixing that?
[02:04] <gordonjcp> *horrible
[02:04] <gordonjcp> rion: change directory
[02:04] <gordonjcp> if you mount something on /mnt
[02:05] <gordonjcp> and you do "cd /mnt" then it will say the filesystem is busy
[02:05] <gordonjcp> I mean, it *is* busy, it's just not necessarily what you'd expect
[02:05] <gordonjcp> you can't saw off the branch you're sitting on
[02:05] <gordonjcp> rion: also, wubi should be banned
[02:06] <rion> haha okay. well im very new to this and i just have a very basic understanding of the coding
[02:06] <gordonjcp> whoever came up with it needs to have their hands set on fire, and then be stuffed into a barrel of rusty screwdrivers and brake fluid and rolled down a steep hill
[02:06] <rion> i created /mnt/windows i just can't mount the partition there
[02:06] <gordonjcp> yeah, I'm not surprised
[02:06] <gordonjcp> wubi basically doesn't work
[02:06] <WeThePeople> is there a program that can search for a specific word in a dir. and through its files?
[02:07] <gordonjcp> WeThePeople: grep
[02:07] <WeThePeople> cool
[02:07] <WeThePeople> didnt know grep did that
[02:07] <gordonjcp> that's what grep does, GRab Regular expression and Print
[02:07] <rion> so can i just move the mountpoint? or are you suggesting i uninstall and boot from cd?
[02:08] <gordonjcp> the trivial use is "grep someword *" which will search for any instance of someword in all files in the current directory
[02:08] <WeThePeople> sweeeeeettt
[02:08] <WeThePeople> im gonna try it
[02:08] <gordonjcp> rion: oh, I just thought
[02:09] <gordonjcp> rion: you might not be able to mount the windows partition, because it's already mounted, because it contains the filesystem image for Linux
[02:09] <gordonjcp> rion: mounting the windows filesystem on top of a wubi filesystem will make it go all Inception on you
[02:09] <mariusz111111111> how to configure vpn connection ??
[02:09] <gordonjcp> nn all
[02:10] <rion> haha okay that would make a lot of sense. so basically i gotta start over?
[02:10] <almoxarife> the win file system is mounted on a wubi install
[02:11] <rion> it is mounted, i just can't see it in my file browser
[02:11] <almoxarife> and it is as dangerous to muck about it as it is within win
[02:12] <almoxarife> rion: in terminal , 'locate windows' , should point to a folder
[02:12] <WeThePeople> goedonjcp, it goes like this grep| words  <or>  grep | words  ??
[02:13] <WeThePeople> gordonjcp, ^^^
[02:13] <rion> @almoxarife okay now it just scrolled through a million lines of code
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> rion: run:  ln -s /host ~/Windows
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> rion: makes life easier
[02:13] <gordonjcp> WeThePeople: where are you getting the pipe from?
[02:14] <gordonjcp> WeThePeople: I don't know what you're trying to do
[02:14] <gordonjcp> also, it's 2:15am and I'm off to bed
[02:14] <almoxarife> rion: no code, locations maybe
[02:14] <rion> nothing happened
[02:14] <WeThePeople> gordonjcp, ok so i dont need the pipe
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> rion: you can now open your home folder in the file browser (called nautilus) and see the link.
[02:14] <gordonjcp> not unless you're sending the output of grep somewhere
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> rion: the command doesn't output anything
[02:14] <cakeboss> Hey guys. Does anyone know how I can install pygtk2 and pygtk2-libglade?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> rion: this mounting of the host NTFS partition (imho) is the ONLY good thing about wubi
[02:15] <rion> still can't see it
[02:15] <rion> sorry if im being really annoying about this hha
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> rion: so when you open your home folder, with Pictures, Downloads etc, you don't see a folder called 'Windows'?
[02:15] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: wubi is good, say it
[02:15] <WeThePeople> gordonjcp, i would like to find 'start main content columns' in all the files in a dir without having to look through them manually
[02:16] <rion> awwwwww sheeeit eureka
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: NEVER!
[02:16] <rion> thank you good sirs
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> rion: so you can see it.
[02:16] <thiebaude> lol
[02:17] <almoxarife> another satisfied customer,  i wonder if he knows he can trash win from the wubi side?
[02:17] <daftykins> WUBI loves to break things
[02:17] <daftykins> it should totally be abandoned
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: replace 'things' with 'itself'
[02:18] <almoxarife> wubi is good, wubi makes men out of windoz users
[02:18] <almoxarife> and women
[02:18] <daftykins> err no
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> its fine to test for maybe a week or so, but long term its garbage
[02:18] <cakeboss> Can anyone tell me why pygtk2 and pygtk2-libglade aren't showing up in the repositories?
[02:18] <daftykins> what it does is bring people in here with problems that are impossible to fix XD
[02:19] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip, agree
[02:19] <cakeboss> ?
[02:20] <Stanley00> !info pygtk2 | cakeboss
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: had a user a while back with 'import' data and no backup held in a wubi install
[02:21] <daftykins> lol
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: we got there, but god it took an age to get there
[02:21] <daftykins> so it was locked in a prison? :D
[02:22] <Stanley00> cakeboss: python-gtk2 (source: pygtk): Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set. In component main, is optional. Version 2.24.0-3 (quantal), package size 805 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[02:22] <daftykins> ugh, did you have to mount the image files in Windows, or vice versa?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: mount ntfs, loop mount wubi, alll explained via text.
[02:22] <daftykins> nasty
[02:22] <almoxarife> daftykins: i only found two issues that were particular to wubi/win, 1. losing grub after a kernel update (its fixable from the win side, stupid easy fix at that) 2. the file(partition) for ubutun turning into swiss cheese, not so easy, one has to repair the ntfs file sys first, and hope that did not cripple the wubi(ubuntu partition) :)
[02:22] <cakeboss> Stanley00: hm?
[02:22] <daftykins> user was obviously quite above average for the likes we get?
[02:23] <Stanley00> cakeboss: you can use python-gtk2, pygtk2 does not exist in ubuntu.
[02:23] <newzi> !upstart
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: slightly above but willing to try so terminal a-go-go
[02:23] <daftykins> almoxarife: i just don't see an advantage over resizing the NTFS
[02:23] <cakeboss> Stanley00: thanks
[02:23] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i salute your effort and success good sir :)
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: you'll get one at some point?
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> :)
[02:24] <daftykins> lmao
[02:24] <newzi> !upstart | daftykins
[02:24] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: once i hear WUBI i tend to imagine hanging myself in my mind
[02:24] <daftykins> then i do the IRC equivalent of hide
[02:25] <daftykins> !tcf | newzi
[02:25] <plustax> quick question. im on 12.10. How do I access my laptop specs section? Like processor speed and ram available etc etc similar to right clicking and properties on windows
[02:25] <daftykins> newzi: not sure why you referred to me there
[02:25] <FRodrigues> I'm trying to compile kdevplatform but it's giving me an error: QWebView: No such file or directory
[02:25] <newzi> daftykins: Sorry wrong button
[02:26] <red_raven> Quick question. I was upgrading to 12.04 on my laptop (dual boots win7) and I had to shut it down during the unpacking stage. When I go into Ubuntu now a lot of stuff is messed up, but I think I can still get to a terminal via a keyboard shortcut. I can also get to the recovery mode in GRUB. What's the best way to go about fixing this?
[02:26] <Ry`> is there a particular desktop that's above and beyond these days? I have a few options; edubuntu, ubuntu desktop, xubuntu, kubuntu...
[02:26] <daftykins> plustax: you can get a bit with a program called lshw-gtk
[02:26] <almoxarife> daftykins: not everyone understands 'create a partition'
[02:26] <plustax> daftykins, theres no other way to check whats in my computer natively?
[02:26] <kriskropd> Can someone help me? I have this Audio card inside an ubuntu 12.10 desktop. The audio doesn't work and on random boots when it does it only comes out the right stereo side - no this is not a simple "is your audio mute" problem
[02:26] <daftykins> almoxarife: that's probably why the installer just has an automagic option
[02:27] <kriskropd> the card is http://pastebin.com/Hm79Jync
[02:27] <Ry`> oh, and lubuntu
[02:27] <daftykins> plustax: that program kinda is native once it's installed via APT ;) there's an 'about ubuntu' one that says processor + RAM too. what are you *actually* wanting to know?
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[02:28] <daftykins> red_raven: try using APT to install 'ubuntu-desktop' that should finish the install off by pulling from network, possibly
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | red_raven try this
[02:29] <shooyaaa> I have the problm before,My case is I uninstalled the alsa driver,but after reinstall it works
[02:29] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/EYthMYPM
[02:29] <almoxarife> daftykins: in terminal, first install a small utility, 'sudo apt-get install alsa-mixer' , then run the util, 'alsamixer' , and look for anything showing 'mm', that would be 'mute' , you want to un-mute the 'outputs' see if that helps
[02:29] <digadvan> hello.. I need a DNS - Bind expert. I'm trying to setup a slave DNS server using Bind9. I have been unsuccessful in getting this to work. Any guidance would greatly appreciated.
[02:30] <daftykins> almoxarife: tab complete fail? :)
[02:30] <almoxarife> !alsamixer
[02:30] <red_raven> Daftykins: thx, I'll try it when I get time.
[02:30] <daftykins> red_raven: np, easiest might be to nuke and reinstall though :S
[02:30] <almoxarife> daftykins: what?
[02:31] <almoxarife> daftykins: got it
[02:31] <red_raven> I was thinking that to, but I need to be careful with my HDD b/c win7 is there to and I need it... A lot.
[02:32] <digadvan> hello.. I need a DNS - Bind expert. I'm trying to setup a slave DNS server using Bind9. I have been unsuccessful in getting this to work. Any guidance would greatly appreciated.
[02:32] <daftykins> !repeat | digadvan
[02:33] <daftykins> digadvan: it's pretty simple to get a basic config going. google some guides?
[02:34] <almoxarife> daftykins: that simple?
[02:34] <digadvan> I did google some guides. do the zone files get automatically replicated to slave server?
[02:34] <red_raven> Ubotto: not sure what that does. It sounds like you're talking about a server.
[02:35] <almoxarife> digadvan: there is a channel dedicated to bind on freenode, #bind
[02:35] <digadvan> thanks
[02:36] <topper4125> Anyone have an opinion on the best iPod software on Ubuntu?
[02:36] <almoxarife> i didnt find bind simple at all, bind lingo is pretty intimidating
[02:39] <j35t3r> neat, got BitchX rollimg  a PIC on a 2" matrix lcd. lol typing ascii hex is not fast
[02:43] <j35t3r>  /whois j35t3r
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> topper4125: buy a hammer, write ubuntu on it them smash the ipod
[02:43] <nikolam> every time I set up LAN (12.10) with fixed IPv4 address, I get wireless internet connection not working anymore
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> topper4125: i hear rhythmnbox and banshee can manage them some
[02:43] <nikolam> same on installed 12.10 and on live dvd 12.04
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: how did you set the IP?
[02:44] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, there is HAMMER File system, supporting snapshots, etc on DragonflyBSD, BTW
[02:44] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, in GUI
[02:44] <nikolam> edit connections
[02:45] <j35t3r> nice love bsd
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: with network manager>
[02:45] <nikolam> network connections
[02:46] <Roey> hey all, I have my SPDIF OUT channel connected to my stereo system.  Why is it that when my stereo is muted, the SPDIF channel automatically gets muted after a while?  It didn't used to do this (I am on Ubuntu 12.10, and this started after I upgraded from 12.04)
[02:48] <j35t3r> can somebody ctcp me with version. ported a mix of code anh hw.
[02:50] <kriskropd> Can someone help me? I have this Audio card inside an ubuntu 12.10 desktop. The audio doesn't work and on random boots when it does it only comes out the right stereo side - no this is not a simple "is your audio mute" problem (hhttp://pastebin.com/Hm79Jync
[02:50] <_cyber> ciao
[02:51] <ccc> hello
[02:51] <j35t3r> thx...got to put that on a device with http ;]
[02:51] <ccc> can someone reccomend a free PCAnywhere program i can download for Ubuntu
[02:51] <ccc> that also has a windows port
[02:51] <randomuser15> ccc like vnc?
[02:52] <ccc> i want to remotely connecto my ubuntu box from a windows 7
[02:52] <randomuser15> ya, you could use vnc
[02:52] <daftykins> ccc: VNS as randomuser15 says
[02:52] <daftykins> *VNC
[02:52] <kriskropd> ccc there is vnc, rdp, and nx - take your pick
[02:52] <almoxarife> kriskropd:  Capabilities: <access denied> <-- from your paste, user is not allowed access to it?
[02:52] <rocky> hi i am trying to rest my password i type passwd and it asks twice for password and i get error -passwd: authenication token manipilation error
[02:52] <rocky> can anyone help
[02:53] <kriskropd> almoxarife: how would i make sure user can access it?
[02:53] <almoxarife> ccc: 'teamviewer'
[02:53] <rocky> crimsonmane_ been super helpful
[02:53] <ccc> do you mean TightVNC?
[02:53] <randomuser15> ccc that would work 2
[02:53] <kriskropd> rocky: did you run 'sudo passwd username' ?
[02:54] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, do pipes go after and before grep??
[02:54] <rocky> i am at root@ubuntu
[02:54] <rocky> but i do not remember my root passwored
[02:54] <almoxarife> kriskropd: that output was from what command?
[02:54] <kriskropd> rocky: how? ubuntu has root disabled
[02:54] <randomuser15> sudo su?
[02:55] <kriskropd> almoxarife: lspci -v, i can run it again as super user
[02:55] <almoxarife> kriskropd: i am going to run it on this end, let me see if user gets the same result
[02:55] <kriskropd> almoxarife: there is also this mess of my setup if you want it http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5ecc85b72f9d7c71ca07f4be44f0563be5a39b59
[02:56] <kriskropd> almoxarife: Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 1
[02:56] <rocky> i trying reset password
[02:56] <ccc> what is the keyboard shortcut to pen a terminal
[02:56] <almoxarife> kriskropd: same response here, nevermind my comment
[02:56] <randomuser15> rocky reboot and goto recovery mode.
[02:56] <kriskropd> ccc ctrl+Alt+t
[02:57] <kriskropd> almoxarife: its oaky, it may be worth knowing
[02:57] <kriskropd> okay*
[02:57] <randomuser15> rocky from there pick root terminal?? or root shell?
[02:57] <timbishjr> hello. Newb here. How does this all work?
[02:57] <rocky> im at root@ubuntu
[02:58] <almoxarife> kriskropd: you have two audio cards?
[02:58] <randomuser15> rocky what happens when you passwd root?
[02:58] <rocky> i type passwd and it asks enter new UNix password
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> rocky: seting a root password isn't required or supported
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> rocky: just use the user you setup at install and use sudo, you'll have an easier time
[02:58] <rocky> well i do know how to change permissions as i forgot my root password
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> rocky: there isn't one
[02:59] <rocky> k will try
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> rocky: the account is disabled in a default install too
[02:59] <randomuser15> rocky did you set a password for root?
[02:59] <kriskropd> almoxarife: three technically, the mobo embeeded one burnt out or something awhile back, the ati 5700 hd radeon video card has hdmi out, and then i have that VIA pci sound card thats worked fine in windows and occasionally (very randomly) in linux
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> rocky: the sooner you forget root, the easier you will find tings
[02:59] <randomuser15> :)
[02:59] <rocky> k i rebootin the comp
[03:00] <j35t3r> rocky wh4t ver of MS u on
[03:00] <rocky> 12.10
[03:01] <ccc> do you guys now an alternate link for this sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[03:01] <ccc> it wont work
[03:01] <randomuser15> vnc is already installed.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> !info tightvncserver
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> ccc: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[03:02] <blocky> what package do I need to install to get windows file sharing working?
[03:02] <ccc> no
[03:02] <ccc> im running a fresh install
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> blocky: install samba
[03:02] <randomuser15> blocky samba
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> ccc: then that's why
[03:02] <blocky> its already installed
[03:02] <ccc> how do i run it
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> blocky: then use nautilus to share folders
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> ccc: use software centre
[03:03] <rocky> is there a way to tell who admin is
[03:03] <blocky> oh hmm i think it is working
[03:04] <blocky> im not seeing any files because nautilus mounts ntfs filesystems as root by default, doesn't it
[03:05] <Nice> hi
[03:05] <kriskropd> rocky: sudo cat /etc/group | grep sudo
[03:06] <almoxarife> kriskropd: install 'pavucontrol' run it, it allows for mutiple card control, thats how i used to manage the HTC with multiple cards
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> blocky: oh, sharing ntfs via samba gets messy
[03:06] <blocky> whats the best way to share it?
[03:07] <TheLordOfTime> not sharing NTFS first off.
[03:07] <almoxarife> blocky: share via 'sftp'
[03:07] <blocky> this is for streaming media
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> blocky: you can add the NTFS in /etc/fstab and set different mount options, may help
[03:08] <kriskropd> almoxarife: this is so weird, im playing a file in vlc with pavucontrol open, and its showing the meter under my sound card moving, its detecting audio output but its not outputting any audio :(
[03:08] <randomuser15> almoxarife that would require install ssh in windows :(
[03:08] <almoxarife> randomuser15: and?
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: is the system a laptop?
[03:08] <blocky> almoxarife: I'm trying to stream hd video to xbmc
[03:08] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: no, it's a custom built machine circa 2009
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: using normal speakers?
[03:09] <Evil_Eric> dosent the 32 bit edition come with pea already activated?
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels unmuted and cranked?
[03:09] <almoxarife> blocky: stream to xbmc? or from?
[03:09] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: normal as in 2 stream stereo, sure
[03:09] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: yes
[03:09] <JamesNZ> Evil_Eric: yes I think so.
[03:09] <Evil_Eric> thanks
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: has it worked under Linux before?
[03:10] <blocky> almoxarife: to
[03:10] <almoxarife> blocky: use ntfs then
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> blocky: if you add the mount option:  uid=1000   it may help but sharing NTFS is very messy
[03:10] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: it worked twice with both side outputting correctly, maybe a dozen times where only output would come through the right output on stereo, and then every other time: no
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: wait 10 seconds and reboot
[03:11] <almoxarife> blocky: xbmc is on the ubuntu?
[03:11] <blocky> no, xbmc is windows
[03:11] <kriskropd> ive done that before but im fine with a reboot on the machine
[03:11] <blocky> content is on linux
[03:12] <almoxarife> blocky: setup a ntfs server on the linux?
[03:12] <blocky> to play videos?
[03:12] <almoxarife> blocky: to server vid to xbmc on the win
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> blocky: does the USB device get used in Windows systems?
[03:13] <blocky> hmm?
[03:14] <zoneout83> <-- Still working on wireless card wusb100 I just compiled my own driver rt2870.dat I think is the file or at least I ran make on the directory I got from a DLink site and I don't know what to do from here.
[03:14] <edoedo> I am new
[03:14] <ccc_> how do I get an app that is jammed up in the Ubuntu Software center progress button out
[03:14] <almoxarife> blocky: seems to me that of you had an instance of xbmc on the ubuntu set to serve via upnp, then you could get same result, on the win side you would be looking for a upnp server
[03:15] <JamesNZ> ccc_: You mean stop the software center from finishing a job?
[03:15] <ccc_> i was installing wine and it got stuck on applyung changes
[03:16] <edoedo> I lost my Pidgin internet messenger , how do I find it?
[03:16] <ccc_> the install bar is stuck half way
[03:16] <JamesNZ> edoedo: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[03:16] <edoedo> What is sudo?
[03:16] <kriskropd> kay ive rebooted the machine, right now its doing the "only right side works" thing
[03:16] <JamesNZ> ccc_: Maybe try from terminal?
[03:16] <kriskropd> almoxarife: ActionParsnip  ^^
[03:16] <edoedo> I am new to Ubuntu and it seems doing better than windows 7
[03:17] <JamesNZ> edoedo: It's a command to run in the terminal, it gives you root priveleges for a particular job.
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: depends on needs ;)
[03:17] <almoxarife> kriskropd: could it be hardware related? tried using earbuds?
[03:17] <kriskropd> almoxarife: ActionParsnip  actually it smore like the left side is incredibly faint compared to the right
[03:17] <wyclif> Happy Thanksgiving everybody
[03:17] <kriskropd> almoxarife: actually i was curious of that, just now i tried a different set of headphones and its the same results
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: if you ALT+TAB do you get it?
[03:18] <edoedo> I found it , yay!!!
[03:18] <edoedo> Thanks folks!
[03:18] <timbishjr> How do you find cool channels and such?
[03:19] <almoxarife> timbishjr: this one not cool enough?
[03:19] <Evil_Eric> timbishjr type this /list
[03:19] <kriskropd> almoxarife: ActionParsnip weird, if i turn off stereo volume lock and individually adjust the stereo volumes, turning up the left volume just raises the right stereo volume
[03:19] <almoxarife> this /list
[03:19] <timbishjr> :D I guess I'm just looking for someone to walk me through this process. I'm not sure what all the terminology and such means.
[03:19] <almoxarife> ?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> !alis | timbishjr
[03:20] <almoxarife> kriskropd: you set to mono somehow?
[03:20] <edoedo> Can you tell me what should I learn or how should I learn more from Ubuntu?
[03:20] <kriskropd> almoxarife: i think thats what its doing, but its monoing to the right side and not spreading it to both output channels, or very very incredibly faintly to the left
[03:21] <timbishjr> so how do you find chat rooms based around, say, Glee or other such interests?
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: I'd just use th OS for now, get used to it a little
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> timbishjr: the alis command helps
[03:21] <kriskropd>  also, rebooting, i think i managed to crash pule audio somehow O.o
[03:21] <kriskropd> pulse*
[03:21] <almoxarife> timbishjr: this is not the place to ask
[03:21] <timbishjr> what is the place>
[03:21] <almoxarife> timbishjr: no idea
[03:21] <edoedo> To ActionParsnip: where can I learn more LInux words like ... gurb , glee or something that I have never seen it before.
[03:21] <timbishjr> alrighty then
[03:22] <JamesNZ> timbishjr: Google ;D
[03:22] <almoxarife> glee :)
[03:22] <xangua> linux glee¿ o_O
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: maybe in #glee
[03:22] <almoxarife> i am old, i can tell
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: not aware of any glee channels
[03:22] <edoedo> Okayh
[03:22] <edoedo> I mean okay
[03:23] <almoxarife> !help glee
[03:23] <edoedo> One more thing....
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: i'm the same. my girlfriend watches it
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: sup?
[03:23] <edoedo> I have hard time to connect or join Puppy Linux .... when reboot it then it won't do more when I returned it. Why is that?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: if you connect to irc.geekshed.net:6667 there is #glee there
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: type:   /join #puppylinux     and you will join the channel
[03:25] <edoedo> ActionParsnip: do you mean when I reboot then type it ?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: no need to reboot
[03:25] <edoedo> Okay Where do Go to /join #pupplylinux
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: where you just typed that, type the join command
[03:27] <timbishjr> msg list
[03:28] <edoedo> wow
[03:28] <edoedo> Thanks , ActionParsnip
[03:28] <kriskropd> almoxarife: ActionParsnip so i rebooted it again, and his time it doesnt pavucontrol doesnt even see my via sound card, it's replace it with "dummy"
[03:28] <edoedo> I think they are closed
[03:29] <edoedo> I will have to come back another time.
[03:29] <almoxarife> kriskropd: can you bypass audio output devices via bios?
[03:29] <kriskropd> almoxarife: maybe, ill see about that
[03:30] <davidmriverog> saludos todos los ubunteros
[03:32] <kriskropd> almoxarife: there is an option to re-assign pci1 and pci2 IRQ, but nothing directly about audio device priority :(
[03:34] <kriskropd> almoxarife: hm, im concerned about why its calling it a "dummy output" now :( i hope the sound card didn't JUST die
[03:35] <kriskropd> lspci -v still sees the card, but pavucontrol does not
[03:37] <ggenio> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/HiWellcome
[03:37] <chick3n> when i open fstab in nano it says converted from mac format
[03:37] <chick3n> why?
[03:37] <zoneout83> So I have this issue with my wireless nic, every time I download anything big it freezes up on me. Anyone?
[03:38] <kriskropd> almoxarife: yeah, it snot showing up at all in any gui sound control anymore, not even alsamixer, i think the card just died - which might explain the odd behavior but not why it died)
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: what wifi chip is it?
[03:41] <gilles> hello, Im trying to change my log in password on ubuntu 10.04, i went into about me in system..trying to change it, but when i hit apply it freezes and doesnt change anymore.. any other ideas please?
[03:41] <zoneout83> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1737:0070 Linksys WUSB100 v1 RangePlus Wireless Network Adapter [Ralink RT2870]
[03:41] <ggenio> dooma09: Hi, http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/HiWellcome
[03:41] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, up
[03:42] <kriskropd> almoxarife: i now its back -_- no audio though - this is what bothers me about linux, inconsistent drivers
[03:42] <zoneout83> modprobe -l
[03:42] <zoneout83> oops
[03:43] <kriskropd> gilles: can you run 'sudo passwd username' and change the password that way?
[03:43] <lollko> gn
[03:44] <gilles> kriskropd: the exact command please?
[03:44] <kriskropd> giles that is the exact command, replace username with the actual name of the account you are trying to change. ex. 'sudo passwd kriskropd'
[03:44] <kriskropd> gilles: *
[03:45] <gilles> i think i got it
[03:45] <lahwran> how do I tell what version of fglrx I have installed? and once I know, how would I go from there to the experimental drivers that steam needs to run?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: are you in Europe?
[03:46] <almoxarife> lahwran: has someone set the drivers up on a ppa?
[03:46] <lahwran> almoxarife: I don't know, which is why I'm asking
[03:46] <lahwran> google is bringing up news sites
[03:47] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, No I'm in the US, Ohio, near toledo if your interested
[03:47] <almoxarife> lahwran: so you would like to have someome research that for you?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: not finding any module options
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: Does it use rt2870sta module?
[03:48] <lahwran> I'd like someone who has already done it to share their existing findings with me, or I'd like someone who hasn't done it to help me do it since as I just said my attempt did not go as planned
[03:48] <zoneout83> I found a driver for an rt2870 but I'm not sure what to do with it
[03:48] <zoneout83> looks like it
[03:48] <chick3n> why would my files be in mac format on my server?
[03:48] <chick3n> its a brand new install of 12.04 server
[03:48] <zoneout83> I have gotten as far as downloading the firmware and making the driver
[03:49] <zoneout83> but make install seems to toss some errors? mayhap I shouldn't be doing make install
[03:49] <almoxarife> lahwran: i am willing to help, you google it though, tag the drivers to a ppa and give me the link
[03:49] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, sorry i keep forgetting to put your name in my replies I have 3 up
[03:49] <kriskropd> almoxarife: haha, so it turns out my card IS in fact producing audio when ive said it wasn't producing output, its just so incredibly low that i've max amplified the sound on alsamixer and boosted the output with a guitar amplifier XD
[03:50] <almoxarife> kriskropd: give it up, the card or worse is trashed
[03:51] <almoxarife> boosted via guitar amp :)
[03:51] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, did you see where I posted I have the problem of when I download stuff watch youtube or even try to update (which I did tediously) I get disconnected unless when it hangs i disconnect then reconnect?
[03:51] <kriskropd> almoxarife: yeah, i think its dieing, idk why ubuntu did it but this is what i imagine an IC dieing would be like
[03:51] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, right now it has the rt2800 driver in
[03:51] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, not sure where I got that info anymore though
[03:51] <almoxarife> kriskropd: i dont think linux killed kenny
[03:51] <timbishjr> hello
[03:52] <zoneout83> LOL @ almoxarife
[03:52] <kriskropd> almoxarife: maybe not, but it was alone in the forest with it when it happened
[03:52] <almoxarife> kriskropd: :)
[03:55] <almoxarife> kriskropd: you got a win install disk? xp?
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: let me have a sniff around
[03:55] <kriskropd> almoxarife: somewhere around here probably, id need to make a new partition to install it tho
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: did you blacklist rt2800pci ?
[03:56] <almoxarife> kriskropd: i was thinking more along the lines of vbox, but i dont know that sound would be created by the card, so nevermind that
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: actually try this
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: echo "options rt2800usb nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2800usb.conf > /dev/null
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: reboot to test
[03:58] <lahwran> almoxarife: so it looks like I have fglrx-updates installed, but I'm supposed to install fglrx-experimental-something
[03:58] <lahwran> almoxarife: I don't see that when I apt-cache search fglrx
[03:58] <kriskropd> almoxarife: ive already got at least 1 winxp and 1 win7 vbox, but idk how i would directly control the pci audio card through vbox
[03:58] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, I still her I was trying something I found.. let me show you see what you think
[03:58] <almoxarife> lahwran: where would the 'experimental' come from?
[03:58] <lahwran> almoxarife: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[03:58] <zoneout83> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Ralink_RT2870
[04:00] <almoxarife> lahwran: In 12.04, launch the Additional Hardware Drivers dialog from System Settings. In 12.10, launch Software Properties, then click on the Additional Drivers tab in the Software Sources menu. <-- did you follow those directions?
[04:00] <kriskropd> almoxarife: im actually giving up for now, thanks for your help though
[04:00] <lahwran> almoxarife: I did, and I only see fglrx and fglrx-updates
[04:01] <kriskropd> almoxarife: i'll probably try a dual boot windows and play with it a lil more, but my priority plan is to buy a new sound card
[04:01] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, what do I do to fix it if it doesn't work I'm on the said computer and this is my only connection right now lol
[04:01] <almoxarife> lahwran: Download the Steam Client. <-- did you do that part? it may be in the package?
[04:01] <FRodrigues> how can I set Environment variables automatically?
[04:02] <lahwran> almoxarife: do you intend to be helpful with this, or are you just going to insult me?
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> zoneout83: then delete the file the command makes and re-reboot
[04:02] <almoxarife> lahwran: the first, the latter insults me too
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> FRodrigues: you can set them in ~/.bashrc
[04:03] <almoxarife> lahwran: i dont know jack about steam or ati drivers, so its a matter of finding the 'experimental' drivers
[04:03] <FRodrigues> ActionParsnip, in the end?
[04:04] <lahwran> almoxarife: okay, look, this is what I did: I installed fglrx-updates, then downloaded steam and tf2. I tried to run it and it complained about the driver missing extensions. I happen to have already read about there being an experimental driver, so I assumed that the problem was that I need said experimental driver. however, I don't see it in the repos, despiet that the wiki page claims it should be in the 12.04 default repos
[04:04] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, I'm somewhat new which file the conf or the dev/null
[04:04] <zoneout83> ActionParsnip, new to linux that is
[04:06] <zoneout83> guess I'll be back worse case I have to go to a friends or move my entire compute to my bedroom next to my router until I fix it lol
[04:06] <edoedo> Hello, I have a question
[04:06] <zoneout83> edoedo, usually that's anoying just ask your question lol
[04:06] <almoxarife> !info fglrx-installer-experimental
[04:06] <edoedo> Whatever I put the program on it then how can I clean up my history?
[04:06] <lahwran> almoxarife: found it, it was in the partner repo
[04:06] <edoedo> SOrry zoneout83
[04:06] <DaemonicApathy> zoneout83: delete /etc/modprobe.d/rt2800usb.conf he means
[04:07] <edoedo> lol
[04:07] <zoneout83> DaemonicApathy, thanks, and edoedo I'm not an op but it's in the rules somewhere
[04:07] <DaemonicApathy> !ask
[04:07] <almoxarife> lahwran: :)
[04:08] <kriskropd> edoedo: do you mean your web browsing history or file browsing history or... ?
[04:08] <edoedo> Yes, Kriskropd
[04:08] <edoedo> browsing
[04:08] <redlance> Evening everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Americans.  I'm sure this is an easy one, but I can't figure out the right words to get an answer from Google.  On Ubuntu 12.04, how do I make it so that when I insert a video CD, it launches handbrake instead of movie player?
[04:08] <kriskropd> edoedo: edoedo in your web browser, hit these keys "ctrl+alt+del" and it will bring up your janitorial options
[04:09] <kriskropd> edoedo: im sry, ctrl+shift+del
[04:09] <kriskropd> dont hit ctrl+Alt+Delt :)
[04:09] <almoxarife> kriskropd: bad man
[04:09] <DaemonicApathy> redlance: System Settings > Details > Removable Media
[04:09] <kriskropd> honest mistake, im tired >_<
[04:09] <edoedo> Thanks
[04:11] <redlance> DaemonicApathy, Thanks!
[04:11] <DaemonicApathy> Any time, redlance.
[04:12] <red_raven> I botched an update and a lot of things are skewed up. How do I open terminal from within nautilus? I'm just looking for its executable so I can run apt-get install Ubuntu desktop and retry the update that way.
[04:12] <DaemonicApathy> red_raven: Ctrl+Alt+T no longer works?
[04:13] <kriskropd> red_raven: if that hotkey doesn't work, you can hit alt+f2 and type either 'gnome-terminal' or if you lack that program type 'xterm'
[04:13] <edoedo> Okay after I done my ctrl+shift+del then what?
[04:14] <DaemonicApathy> What is Alt+F2 by default?
[04:14] <red_raven> Unfortunately not.  Even the graphics for the login screen were pretty.....wrong.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> red_raven: just press CTRL+ALT+T and you get a terminal
[04:14] <kriskropd> edoedo: it should bring up a lil menu box with options to clean your history and cache and cookies or bookmarks and etc, select which ones you want to remove
[04:14] <DaemonicApathy> red_raven: create an executable text file that says "gnome-terminal" without quotes, if nothing else works.
[04:14] <edoedo> If I hit ... ctrl+shift+del then all the history is gone, correct?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: ALT+F2 opens dialogue similar to the the run dialogue in windows
[04:14] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: I think that only works in unity and gnome
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: in web browsers, yes
[04:15] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: the hotkey i meant
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: which shortcut?
[04:15] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, right...Unity...>_>
[04:15] <edoedo> just at one a time then it gone for good?
[04:15] <red_raven> What do I put as the file type?
[04:15] <FRodrigues> is there some program that allow me to do simple things like copy or open with sudo in nautillus?
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: yes it wil clean what you say
[04:15] <red_raven> Alt f2 isn't working.
[04:15] <edoedo> Okay one more --- where can I learn all the information about all those stuff like ctrl or del or alt or much more?
[04:16] <kriskropd> edoedo: some borwsers offer you to select how far back to erase, you can select everything or just the last hour or whatever
[04:16] <Th3Pun15h3r> no just run a terminal and sudo nautilus
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> FRodrigues: you can use nautilus scripts for that
[04:16] <edoedo> Okay
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> Th3Pun15h3r: gksudo for GUI apps
[04:16] <DaemonicApathy> red_raven: Right click, new text file, open, type "gnome-terminal" without quotes, right click, properties, permissions, execute as program checked, close properties, double click on file, run
[04:16] <edoedo> what about whole day?
[04:16] <kriskropd> edoedo: ehm, i learn my hotkeys slowly over a lot of time... i suppose you can google "hotkeys for 'program name'"
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: some browsers (like chrome/ium) have lengths of time you can delete)
[04:16] <jubei> guys how can I stop lightdm during graphical install
[04:16] <kriskropd> edoedo: if you hit ctrl+shift+del you will see all your options, it variesa ccording to browsers
[04:17] <DaemonicApathy> red_raven: I forgot "save and close" between typing gnome-terminal and right clicking.
[04:17] <kriskropd> varies*
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> FRodrigues: just run:  gksudo nautilus    and you'll be ok
[04:17] <jubei> i do "service lightdm stop" but it says already stopped, yet if I do ctrl-F7 lightDM is still running
[04:17] <edoedo> Okay thanks
[04:17] <FRodrigues> ok
[04:17] <jubei> Alt-F7 even
[04:17] <almoxarife> edoedo: kriskropd, then there is 'bleachbit' , does it all without all the guessing work
[04:17] <FRodrigues> ActionParsnip, ok thanks again!
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> FRodrigues: keeps its use to a minimum :)
[04:17] <FRodrigues> of course
[04:17] <kriskropd> red_raven: can you hit ctrl+alt+f2 ? that will send you to a runtime level, you can log in through here and run you upgrade like this if worse comes to worse
[04:17] <edoedo> bleachbit?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: its a temp file cleaner, like ccleaner in windows
[04:18] <almoxarife> edoedo: yes, a package that can be installed
[04:18] <kriskropd> edoedo: its an application available in aptitude
[04:18] <kriskropd> !bleachbit
[04:18] <edoedo> Oh okay
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: use it carefully, you may remove settings you want and avoid settings that say it will take a long time
[04:19] <kriskropd> *ubotto fails me*
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: you can make factoids if you wishj
[04:19] <edoedo> Okay, I am learning
[04:19] <almoxarife> kriskropd: it knows you killed the card
[04:19] <kriskropd> :(
[04:19] <DaemonicApathy> !info bleachbit | kriskropd
[04:19] <edoedo> the more I play with it the more I learn
[04:19] <edoedo> brb
[04:19] <kriskropd> ah, ty DaemonicApathy , wrong syntax
[04:19] <DaemonicApathy> np
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: you can suggest factoids and if they are deemed good, they will be add to ubottu's brain and she will reply with your text
[04:20] <almoxarife> !info fslint
[04:20] <DaemonicApathy> You can also message ubottu in private, to avoid spamming chat rooms too much.
[04:21] <almoxarife> DaemonicApathy: or hangout in #ubuntu-bot
[04:21] <lcabreza2> hi, need some help here. Why is it that i don't have /var/log/messages, user.log debug and other importan logs. I'm using 12.04?how do i fix this ? do i just create a file?
[04:22] <almoxarife> bots?
[04:22] <DaemonicApathy> almoxarife: That's new to me, thanks. :-)
[04:22] <almoxarife> #ubuntu-bots
[04:22] <lcabreza2> hi, need some help here. Why is it that i don't have /var/log/messages, user.log debug and other importan logs. I'm using 12.04?how do i fix this ? do i just create a file?
[04:23] <almoxarife> ice799: messages=syslog in ubuntu
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> lcabreza2:try /var/log/syslog
[04:24] <lcabreza2> lotuspsychje: i have that ? did they rename it to that instead of messages ?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> lcabreza2:all important logs are mostly in syslog..what excactly you want to find?
[04:25] <almoxarife> lcabreza2: no, its not renamed, its been syslog, opensuse uses 'messages' for one
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail | lcabreza2
[04:25] <kriskropd> almoxarife: RHEL uses /var/log/messages to though, so its probably more common than syslog
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> lcabreza2: try a colortail -f /var.log/syslog for logs in realtime
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> /var/log
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> handy little package
[04:27] <almoxarife> kriskropd: i would say the more common is the more used, what you want to bet that there are more ubuntu users these days than ?????
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !zeitgeist > lotuspsychje
[04:28] <kriskropd> almoxarife: lol thats my argument to the RHEL preachers
[04:28] <swex> hey anybody have permanent disk io?
[04:28] <swex> I've got jdb2 writing every couple seconds..
[04:29] <swex> that's terrible
[04:29] <red_raven> Ok I was able to make a text file but the terminal window is black so I can't see what I'm doing. It looks like I can open a text file as a terminal command instead of an executable. What command should I use exactly?
[04:29] <kriskropd> but RHEL is where the certs and professors teachnig nix are at, so you have more scholarly admins that think its /var/log/messages
[04:29] <swex> I don't find actual bug for this issue, I mean I found alot of threads with this problem but no solution...
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: users or systems ;)
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !info iotop | swex
[04:29] <lcabreza2> almoxarife|lotuspsychje : http://pastebin.houston.hp.com/pastebin.php?show=13499 this is what i use to have
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: you can be ubuntu certified....
[04:30] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: users i would say, but then it takes a sys to have a user
[04:30] <swex> !info iotop
[04:30] <swex> ))
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: you need LPI 101 and 102 first, but it is a thing
[04:30] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: i know you can, but im always seeing RHEL certs in the job descriptions, not ubuntu :/
[04:30] <red_raven> Sorry, the command I need is the one that will upgrade ubuntu to 12.04 therefore overwriting the current messed up version.
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: true but few admins work on many many servers
[04:30] <swex> lotuspsychje: so what? I used it to understand whos writing...
[04:30] <swex> I'd like to know how to fix that
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: both are good certs to have if you want to manage Linux boxes
[04:31] <kriskropd> no doubt :) ubuntu is the direction its all going afterall
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: the differences are subtle but need accommodating :)
[04:31] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: my point is that syslogs have more audience now, well, they have machines they are running on, not sure the audience has caught on
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: Wikipedia uses it on its servers
[04:31] <kriskropd> i tell all the RHEL students to learn ubuntu server in their spare time
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: why not both, or all 3 :D
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: I'd run a syslog server and have all servers log to that
[04:32] <lcabreza2> kriskropd: when you learn to convinient on a debian enviroment ..you will never look back on RHEL ..
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> !details | swex
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: or a few, for redundancy
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:tnx again for feedindicator, working flawless rss spams to my desktop :p
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: glad you like :)
[04:34] <swex> lotuspsychje: I've got problem with my disk io, ext4 journal writing something to disk every 3-5 seconds
[04:34] <swex> lotuspsychje: I'm using kubuntu 12.10
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> swex:ok, many google pages shows this problem holdon
[04:35] <swex> lotuspsychje: I know, I asked google before write here))
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> swex:can you tell us what HD brand (sata? raid? etc)
[04:35] <swex> lotuspsychje: but I didn't find any solution
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> swex: are there bugs reported?
[04:35] <kriskropd> swex jbd2? i see it too, writing every couple seconds
[04:36] <swex> ActionParsnip: I found bug like that, more than 100 people affected, but no solution
[04:36] <swex> and ubuntu version was 10.04
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> swex:what hd brand pls
[04:37] <swex> lotuspsychje: Model Family:     Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 Device Model:     ST3750330AS
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[04:37] <red_raven> I'll using the "fix broken packages" option in recovery mode revert a botched upgrade to its original state?
[04:38] <red_raven> *will. Stupid autocorrect.
[04:38] <swex> lotuspsychje: how can it help? thats file system problem
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> red_raven: there is a command list in the ubuntu docs
[04:38] <swex> lotuspsychje: there is nothing about HDD brand in that problem
[04:38] <lonely_leaf> what?
[04:39] <edoedo> What is gedit stand for?
[04:39]  * almoxarife see's writes every 3-5 seconds too, bet they would disappear if i disconnected from irc, better yet the whole of the internet
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: gnome-edit
[04:40] <edoedo> You mean same as notebook, ActionParsnip?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: or could be gnu-edit
[04:40] <lcabreza2> edoedo: gnome editor
[04:40]  * ActionParsnip prefers leafpad
[04:40] <marrero> !factoid
[04:41] <edoedo> leafpad , thanks brb
[04:41] <Aaron> susu
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> swex:im reading stuff about those drives best run on RAID, did you try installing ubuntu on another drive?
[04:42] <swex> lotuspsychje: no I didn't but partition I have problem is my /home/ not /..
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> swex:read this 'older' bug on jdb2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607560
[04:43] <swex> lotuspsychje: yep I was there
[04:46] <swex> lotuspsychje: so you see, no solution, only old Undecided BUG...
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> swex:im still reading, try ##hardware aswell with your question mate
[04:47] <rocsteady> Guys: Do you know how to swich to a different desktop environment in ubntu 12:10?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> swex:can you tell us how your hd is connected? sata, raid?
[04:48] <swex> lotuspsychje: thx for advice and share my problem
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> rocsteady:install another one
[04:48] <rocsteady> I did
[04:48] <swex> lotuspsychje: just plain sata
[04:48] <rocsteady> It used to be that you could then choose your de when you logged in
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> rocsteady:wich one?
[04:48] <rocsteady> When I was running 12.04
[04:49] <kriskropd> rocsteady: you still can select your DE from the lightdm in 12.10
[04:49] <rocsteady> xfce4
[04:49] <kriskropd> rocsteady: its the lil icon in top right of the box you put your password in
[04:50] <rocsteady> I don't want to bother my bf cause he's installing gentoo which is a lot harder than changing your de lol
[04:50] <rocsteady> Basically, I'm changing it cause I'm creating linux containers and my uptime went up really high
[04:50] <rocsteady> & so I'm thinking it is cause I'm running both unity and firefox with tons of tabs open from googling around a lot
[04:50] <rocsteady> okay let me log out and try again ty
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> swex:plz ask your question in ##hardware alot of interesting opinions
[04:51] <fspkwon> in 10.04 my skydome and the top part of the cube doesnt show png's
[04:51] <kriskropd> rocsteady: if you only installed 'xfce4' you'll find some stuff is missing probably, apt-get 'xubuntu-desktop' for the bigger package with xfce applications and such
[04:51] <fspkwon> compiz---
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> swex:you have bios set to IDE or AHCI?
[04:52] <XRS1> how do you put music on an ipod?
[04:53] <XRS1> im seeing it tell me to just drag and drop in the music player and thats not working
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !info libmobiledevice | XRS1
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> XRS1:note sure if its still used, but i managed to drag n drop to ipad with this http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[04:55] <xangua> XRS1: not the most friendly device...depends on what ubuntu version and iOS version are you using
[04:56] <XRS1> libimobiledevice3 is already the latest versioon  (Ubuntu Studio 12.10 & iPod Nano 6th Gen)
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> XRS1:what music player are you using?
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> !info gtkpod
[04:58] <XRS1> tried gtkpod and rhythmbox (maybe im just doing it wrong?)
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> XRS1:did you try this package?
[04:58] <XRS1> yes
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> XRS1:maybe banshee can handle it?
[04:59] <fspkwon> my favorite part of linux, an app for every function
[04:59] <XRS1> gtkpod and rhythmbox see the ipod and browse inside it just fine. got the music erased off it. now i just cant figure out how to put new music on
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> fspkwon: and even better, learning new cool packages every day :p
[05:00] <fspkwon> see if rockbox will work if its an old ipod
[05:00] <XRS1> its too new for rockbox
[05:00] <fspkwon> and- random water spill downs =p love compiz
[05:01] <fspkwon> i kiid you not , my water plugin RANDOMLY triggers and lines its way down the screen
[05:01] <shark> i don't think compiz is good
[05:01] <fspkwon> then goes away =p
[05:01] <fspkwon> its nice for me, i get my desktops looking pretty
[05:01] <XRS1> bits and peices are fine
[05:01] <fspkwon> especially with the window decorations and reflection
[05:01] <fspkwon> i have a red shadowy border with the reflection turned on
[05:02] <fspkwon> looks nice =p , ubuntu gets me on wifi here so its good
[05:02] <fspkwon> even better im using a iw2200bg which is shit anyway
[05:07] <aaron> hey i have a question... how do you setup your email that i have from ubuntu.com?
[05:07] <edoedo> seriously... what can the ' command' do for me?
[05:07] <Joelixny> Hello, I'm having this weird issue in Ubuntu where beeps won't work even after I've loaded the module pcspkr. The strange this is that if I open pavucontrol or pavumeter the beeps will work ~5 seconds after I've closed it.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> swex:read this1 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2050525
[05:08] <swex> lotuspsychje: what exactly? I don't use RAID
[05:09] <edoedo> What can the 'command' do for you?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> swex:are you sure your sata cables connected correclty?
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> edoedo: how do you mean?
[05:10] <XRS1> okay the directions were wrong. gtkpod is working
[05:10] <swex> lotuspsychje: no :) but who does?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !yay | XRS1
[05:11] <edoedo> You know like a blackboard to write it down what is this for ?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> swex: i would go test all things out, check bios for IDE to AHCI, check cables, set hd to external drive..try some stuff
[05:11] <edoedo> I mean ' Terminal
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !bash | edoedo
[05:11] <dj_segfault> Hi.  I'm trying to get printing from one Ubuntu box to another, and it seems to be blocked due to authentication.  It sees the printer but when I try to test print it asks for name/password, which I've given it.  I already set the printer up in CUPS and told it my user can print, and I used lpadmin -u allow:all, but it still prompts for username and password and won't print.    Yes.
[05:14] <edoedo> Oh boy I am not using this
[05:14] <edoedo> BUt I can made it
[05:14] <woody123> Hello
[05:14] <edoedo> what is !bash stand for?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:try the http cups page from the box you want to print send to the other box
[05:14] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: All apps print fine on the computer the printer is hooked up to
[05:14] <Joelixny>  !bash is a command to make the bot give help on bash to certain user, edoedo
[05:15] <Joelixny> erm.. whoops.
[05:15] <edoedo> pls forgive me if you don't understand my grammar because I am Deaf
[05:15] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: You mean localhost:631 on the machine without the printer?
[05:15] <woody123> I think I found a bug in wikipedia, anyone willing to investigate it with me?
[05:15] <fspkwon> well bash is the text console your using when you run apps that are text based
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:yes
[05:15] <edoedo> OKay
[05:15] <fspkwon> think of it as ,,, an os inside of an os
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:did you setup samba aswell?
[05:16] <Joelixny> Hello, I'm having this weird issue in Ubuntu where beeps won't work even after I've loaded the module pcspkr. The strange this is that if I open pavucontrol or pavumeter the beeps will work ~5 seconds after I've closed it.
[05:17] <shark> hello, I'm Bill Gates here
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:17] <woody123> can I have some money?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> stay ontopic guys
[05:17] <fspkwon> -harpoons shark-
[05:17] <fspkwon> yes everybody destroy shark!
[05:18] <fspkwon> thats on topic
[05:18] <jason> hello people
[05:19] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: When I try printing from cups on the second machine it still asks me for name/password and won't print
[05:19] <topper4125> edoedo, the terminal can be used to do everything you do in your graphical enviroment (copy, paste, move, delete files,execute programs, update/install software) but instead of point and click, you type in the command manually. there are also SEVERAL other commands that only work in/through the terminal
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:did you setup samba? (both machines have ubuntu on?)
[05:19] <Guest8983> samba?
[05:20] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: Yes both machines are Ubuntu.  No I didn
[05:20] <dj_segfault> didn't set up SAMBA, because I didn't think it was needed for this
[05:20] <Guest8983> well then it is not a big deal
[05:20] <Guest8983> ask that person who setup to remove it
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:what printer model?
[05:21] <topper4125> edoedo, once you get used to the terminal, its not as scary as it looks... but it is powerful, and it assumes you know what you are doing... (unforgiving in some cases if you make a mistake)
[05:21] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: I thought printing through CUPS was a completely separate protocol.  It's a Samsumg ML-2010 laser printer
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> !cups | dj_segfault
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> maybe some info on there
[05:23] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: OK.  But like I said the printer prints fine from the machine it's on.
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:are you root when trying to print to the other box?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:seems like theres samsung software available too
[05:24] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: No I'm not root at the time
[05:25] <rocsteady> kriskropd: Makes sense. When I first opened up terminal in xfce4,the commands I was typing in didn't show up.
[05:25] <rocsteady> I discovered that there is a bug filed on launchpad for it. I had to disable use colors from system theme.
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:try as root
[05:25]  * rocsteady is not sure if this is related or not.
[05:25] <Guest8983> what commands did you type in?
[05:25] <rocsteady> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/980710?comments=all
[05:25] <rocsteady> ops
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[05:26] <rocsteady> http://tinyurl.com/bqh9rcn --w/tinyurl
[05:28] <huzoubahce> hello everyone
[05:29] <Guest8983> PING!!
[05:30] <matt865> hi
[05:30] <Pad22> Need some help: 4 drive RAID-5... installed some updates today, after reboot it says I have a degraded array.  mdadm -D /dev/md0 lists one of my drives being "removed".  I checked all cables, OK.  I'm not sure what happened..... any ideas?
[05:30] <shvchk> Is there a way to create a per-user /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/typo?
[05:30] <Redeyyez> Intel board 856perl mobo p4 2.7 Ghz cpu supports hyperthreading. ubuntu installation freezes in the splash screen. Can't even install it.  Machine runs xp pro normally. How do i trouble shoot this ubuntu install splash screen freeze?
[05:30] <Pad22> SMART status says that two of my drives (including the one that is showing "removed") has bad sectors
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !test | Guest8983
[05:31] <causative> after upgrading to 12.04 Firefox no longer has a logo in the launcher
[05:31] <causative> why is that?
[05:31] <causative> instead of a Firefox logo it has a gray box with a question mark on it
[05:31] <huzoubahce> 的
[05:31] <matt865> mine too
[05:31] <Guest8983> the new version does not appear logos
[05:31] <Guest8983> it's fine
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> !cn | huzoubahce
[05:32] <Guest8983> as long as the software can still work
[05:32] <matt865> ah good good
[05:32] <causative> so it's a Firefox thing, to be fixed in a future Firefox update?
[05:32] <somsip> causative: guessing that the path to the icon file has changed.
[05:32] <dj_segfault> causative: That means it got installed into a different directory.  Sometimes rebooting fixes that, but you can also edit the menu option and find the new location.  It often has the version number in it
[05:33] <causative> how do I edit the menu option?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:did you try to rightmouse printer icon/properties and share printer?
[05:33] <WeThePeople> redeyyez, maybe a live cd
[05:34] <WeThePeople> redeyyez, are you dual booting?
[05:34] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: I'm actually running kubuntu so that might be a little different.  But I can *see* the printer from the second computer so it must be shared.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Pad22
[05:35] <shvchk> Sorry for asking again. Is there a way to create a per-user /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/typo?
[05:35] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: Just re-verified the printer is shared in the printer setting
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:odd indeed you cant print, maybe try gksudo your browser and try the cups page?
[05:36] <Guest8983> does your cups prompt you to login?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest8983:yes it does for him
[05:36] <Pad22> lotuspsychje: Is it OK to run a scan on bad sectors on a raid disk... or at least one that is removed from the array ... and when done, add it back into the array?  Will it be a different size after the bad sectors have been marked so that it won't fit back into the array?
[05:36] <dj_segfault> lotuspsychje: Why would who I'm running as on Machine 2 matter?  Besides it's prompting me for a username and password.
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Pad22: testdisk is to verify your had, it wont affect your array
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> hd
[05:39] <Jieirn> o/
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> dj_segfault:something like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/164111/cups-is-always-asking-for-password-when-printing-on-a-certain-printer
[05:40] <Jieirn> anyone familiar with whole-disk encryption?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !encryption | Jieirn
[05:41] <Guest8983> you can set passwords there
[05:42] <liberte> hello
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> hi
[05:43] <Guest8983> hi
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> someone succesfully removed zeitgeist yet on 12.10 without removing unity-desktop?
[05:44] <jud> bobweaver: in da house?
[05:46] <Guest8983> how?
[05:47] <Jieirn> lutuspsychje, Im looking for more... difficult applications of encryption than that. not private directoryies with encryption keys stored on non encrypted storage
[05:47] <Guest8983> well just create encryption key
[05:49] <Jieirn> not really how it works guest. Im trying to make a system boot to an encrypted root drive without a partion table that uses key files held in an encrypted partion on a thumbdrive, along with /boot and GRUB
[05:50] <Jieirn> but i cant get cryptroot to call for the passphrase to the crypted keys to open root
[05:50] <Jieirn> actually the cryptroot script file is empty
[05:51] <jud> just installed ubuntu 12.10 on an old computer, new drive. seems to be graphics issue which it had with Karmic but it's unusable now. how should i sought this out?
[05:51] <liberte> guys, do you know how I can make an infinite script on bash?
[05:51] <Jieirn> so, anyone who knows encryption, two-form authentication, or more about update-initramfs and its scripts?
[05:51] <liberte> wget url/archivo.ext
[05:51] <liberte> rm -rf archivo.ext
[05:52] <liberte> this is my script, i need make a bucle on this one
[05:52] <Guest8983> well i don't think so
[05:53] <Guest8983> i donnot think you need bucle for this
[05:53] <jud> just installed ubuntu 12.10 on an old computer, new drive. seems to be graphics issue which it had with Karmic but it's unusable now. how should i sought this out? It was suggested that this has something to do with nividia?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> jud:try lubuntu or xubuntu
[05:55] <jud> lotuspsychje: Ok, thanks, why those?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> jud:12.10 might be little too heavy for your old grafix card perhaps
[05:56] <Guest8983> after upgrade, for certain the manes of certain commmands will change
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> jud:did you try clean install 12.10?
[05:57] <Guest8983> try formatting the computer and install the OS again
[05:57] <jud> lotuspsychje: clean yep, wiped what was on there.
[05:59] <nicekiwi> how do I write the output of a command into a text file?
[05:59] <Rootyfault> sup all
[05:59] <nicekiwi> Rootyfault, hiya
[05:59] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, command > textfile
[05:59] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, chur
[05:59] <Guest8983> could be a fault in the keying in of commands in LXTerminal
[06:00] <Jieirn> how can one add modules to update-initramfs now?
[06:00] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, that created an empty document
[06:00] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, ... with the output of "command"
[06:01] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, try "ls > textfile"
[06:01] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, that worked
[06:01] <jud> lotuspsychje: so, would it be worth a punt on a new graphics card maybe? Thing is, the computer was new when I put Karmic on it and it had graphics problems then too, just not as bad.
[06:01] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, both worked
[06:01] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, they did not
[06:02] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, the file got created -> it worked
[06:02] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, question is if it's just the output (and which maybe)
[06:02] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, well put it this way. the file was created yet, but all the crap that spilled out into the terminal after the command was run did not make it into the file
[06:02] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, which command exactly?
[06:02] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, strace
[06:03] <Guest8983> the commands involving root, including sudo
[06:03] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, "strace steam > output.txt"
[06:04] <jud> OK, lubuntu or xubuntu?
[06:04] <Guest8983> nicekiwi what do you mean by that?
[06:04] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, that seems to put the output of "steam" not "strace .." into the file
[06:04] <nicekiwi> Guest8983, talking to someone
[06:04] <Guest8983> oooh
[06:04] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, ah.. ok :/
[06:05] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, probably because strace works more in the background.. no idea. maybe check "man strace"
[06:05] <tripelb> my old Max is my wifi hotspot never failing. Ubuntu 12.04 - NO. does not see it. wifi from phone.
[06:05] <tripelb> my old Macbook sees  my wifi hotspot never failing. Ubuntu 12.04 - NO. does not see it. wifi from phone.
[06:05] <rumpe1> nicekiwi, strace -ff ... -o ...
[06:06] <Guest8983> tripelb the problem can be with the wifi router installed on your pc
[06:06] <Guest8983> tripelb it can also be with the network card
[06:06] <tripelb> router on my PC??? Does not compute. It's the same PC. I booted from a live CD.
[06:07] <tripelb> It's the same PC. It's the same network card.
[06:07] <tripelb> Ubuntu does see the other WiFi hot spots in the neighborhood
[06:08] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, hmm.. kk
[06:09] <nicekiwi> rumpe1, strace -o <out_file> <prog_name> did the trick. Thanks :)
[06:10] <tripelb> I take  that back. it does not see as many as sox.  no twcable (hotspotname). But this 1 is right next to the computer in my hand.
[06:10] <Guest8983> what brand is the computer?
[06:10] <tripelb> I tried text to hidden network. That didn't work either.
[06:10] <tripelb>  as I said. It's a mac book.
[06:12] <tripelb> repeat -- my old Macbook sees  my wifi hotspot never failing. Ubuntu 12.04 - NO. does not see it. wifi from phone.
[06:12] <jud> Is nvidia a problem in general for ubuntu?
[06:13] <DaemonicApathy> jud: Linux in general, not just Ubuntu.
[06:13] <tripelb> I finally gave up on getting a USB flash drive to boot on ubuntu. So I burnt myself a liveCD then I checked it was perfect excellent and now is this I'm so disappointed
[06:14] <jud> Hmm, what's best for linux?
[06:14] <kj4> tripelb: hang in there
[06:16] <tripelb> I got the AMD+Mac ISO. too.  everything was going so well.
[06:16] <phunyguy_t430s> Jud, I have good luck with NVidia, except for not being able to use the built-in ubuntu app for managing displays
[06:16] <jud> what's the short cut for addressing people again?
[06:16] <phunyguy_t430s> Jud, also you wont get the right res on boot (its an X driver, but not fb driver)
[06:16] <Guest8983> tryusing the recovery disk (if possible), format the whole pc and re-install the OS again
[06:17] <FACT> TT
[06:17] <jud> It was a new Hard drive
[06:17] <FACT> S
[06:17] <Jieirn> Why is the answer re-install?
[06:17] <phunyguy_t430s> ooh the children are here!
[06:17] <tripelb> kj4 now what?
[06:18] <FACT> HW CAN I CONNECT MY YAHOO MESSENGER
[06:18] <Jieirn> hrm, capslock /= cruise control for cool
[06:18] <tripelb> reason I'm doing Ubuntu is that I can't get SASL on a Mac with Snow Leopard
[06:18] <jud> It's just for dad to surf the net so I'll give lubuntu a whirl
[06:19] <phunyguy_t430s> I keep getting import errors with Rhythmbox when using smb share as library... they are timeouts.
[06:19] <phunyguy_t430s> it times out, then forgets about it until the next app start.
[06:20] <jud> just thought that if nvidia had anything to do with it i might still have the same problem...??
[06:20] <tripelb> " thanks for the help". What I want to do is get freenode from my Mac using the phone hotspot. Is that so difficult?
[06:20] <tripelb> well I keep coming back presidential it works. I suppose I must go to sleep now.
[06:20] <tripelb> nn
[06:20] <Jieirn> tripleb, if your system sees the rest of the neighborhood
[06:21] <Jieirn> and not your phone, your phone may not be broadcasting a ssid
[06:21] <Guest8983> tripelb go use the ifconfig or netstat command to check your connections
[06:21] <matthewGA> Anyone know of a good writeup for using iPhone with Ubuntu? I know Amorak does/did support it, but not sure of any upgrade implications, etc.
[06:22] <Jieirn> in which case you either need to change setings on your phone or, manually set your wireless network on ubuntu
[06:22] <Guest8983> Jieirn maybe the wifi router does not have an SSID programmed on it yet
[06:22] <tripelb> s/ presidential/something else.  voice input shrug.    OK let me read your suggestion/school
[06:22] <Guest8983> Jieirn it is only when your network is not available in the list of visible networks
[06:23] <vucic1960> Hello i need a software for pdf documents to add one pdf doc to another and to move pages on it
[06:23] <tripelb> I can't fathom unity can I switch to GNOME do I get a terminal which way is up
[06:24] <Jieirn> Guest8983 you dont have to broadcast a ssid ever. its better if you dont actually, keeps people from seeing your wireless router or in his case, phone hotspot
[06:24] <tripelb> GOT ONE
[06:24] <Jieirn> tripelb unfortunately unity = GNOME 3
[06:24] <matthewGA> tripelb, control+alt+t or SuperKey+ type "terminal"
[06:24] <Guest8983> well it is true, but then the problem is that nobody will know that you actualy have a wirless network
[06:25] <Jieirn> das is the point guest
[06:25] <Jieirn> but if he can see the networks around him and not his phone then his phone isnt broadcasting an id to see
[06:26] <matthewGA> Unity isn't bad. Seems great, actually. Not crazy about the gmail integration thing, prefer Thunderbird is all.
[06:26] <matthewGA> and if you think Unity takes getting used to, go install Windows 8
[06:26] <Jieirn> Now, how about adding modules to that update-initramfs? i really need it to load specific modules
[06:27] <DaemonicApathy> vucic1960: PDF Editor might work for you.
[06:27] <Jieirn> windows 8 is a tablet gui on a desktop... that sucks
[06:28] <tripelb> I don't see where ifconfig would help me. I don't understand. ( yes I looked at info is Tim said ) I don't know the exact meaning of interface. And I see nothing useful and what it takes place. Can you help me understand it. Or understand what I want from it.
[06:29] <tripelb> yes I did look at info ifconfig
[06:29] <vucic1960> @DaemonicApathy i just check pdf editor dont see a function to import an pdf doc
[06:30] <tripelb> I'm pretty much the same thing for netstat. I know I'm not connected to 1. Why should I bother looking at when I'm connected too. I'm getting what I expect.
[06:31] <tripelb> I'm chasing my own tail. I need to sleep thank you very much
[06:31] <DaemonicApathy> vucic1960: Apologies if I'm mistaken. I may be thinking of a plugin for a different program. :-/
[06:31] <tripelb> I said love to you all and your mommys and your daddy is and your children on Thanksgiving day.
[06:34] <jyfl987> hi, is there any pdf viewer that run under tty or using curses-like library?
[06:36] <vucic1960> okay thanks DaemonicApathy will ask google :-)
[06:36] <memetic> There's a side bar in this ubuntu thingy that wiggles and jiggles if I'm in another desktop space and an application gets some notification.
[06:36] <memetic> How do I disable the annoying side bar slide out app wiggly-jiggy shit?
[06:36] <bazhang> memetic, no cursing here
[06:37] <jyfl987> why?
[06:37] <jyfl987> i use ubuntu at work and at home
[06:37] <jyfl987> and even our server use it
[06:37] <Guest19555> hello
[06:38] <matthewGA> jyfl987, I doubt there's a ncurses style PDF reader, seems too graphic based to render like that. Could be wrong.
[06:38] <Jieirn> jyf he was messig with you
[06:38] <Jieirn> lol
[06:39] <jyfl987> matthewGA: i have a reason for that
[06:39] <jyfl987> matthewGA: our boss walk around on the room, but luckily he seems not like a technical guy
[06:39] <matthewGA> jyfl987 I don't doubt your desire/need/reason, I just don't think that an app like that would be very reliable.
[06:40] <Odd-rationale> jyfl987: You can convert the pdf to text and view that from the command line.
[06:40] <jyfl987> Odd-rationale: cant it be convert to html?
[06:41] <Odd-rationale> jyfl987: yeah, probably
[06:41] <jyfl987> i tried to do some customizing for the pdf viewer like trying to change the font color
[06:41] <memetic> wiggly jiggly.
[06:41] <jyfl987> but failed
[06:41] <matthewGA> jyfl987 you would like to convert PDF to HTML? Now I am curious as to why
[06:41] <jyfl987> Odd-rationale: which tool could help me ?
[06:42] <Odd-rationale> jyfl987: pdftohtml
[06:43] <jyfl987> matthewGA: because there is html viewer on tty
[06:43] <jyfl987> matthewGA: w3m
[06:43] <jyfl987> Odd-rationale: ok
[06:43] <matthewGA> ah, true. w3m, links, lynx, etc...
[06:44] <jyfl987> and there is only format change from pdf to html, but when you change from pdf to text, it lost many other data like color , position
[06:44] <memetic> They actually call this 'wiggle time'
[06:45] <memetic> So, there's no way to disable unity urgent animations?
[06:47] <memetic> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers/Unity/Options
[06:47] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/138622/how-to-disable-all-unity-animations  memetic
[06:47] <bazhang> memetic, use ccsm
[06:47] <memetic> Apparently you can tweak the wiggle setting using Compiz.
[06:47] <bazhang> correct
[06:47] <memetic> That doesn't actually work, bazhang.
[06:47] <tada> Frustrated beyond words. tried to setup my hd tv in Ubuntu 12.10 with Nvidia settings mangr. Now My monitor is blank at startup and Tv has no desktop on it.. Xorg.conf is screwed. Tried Recovery mode. The only option that will work is dropping in to root logon.. Im screwed right?
[06:47] <bazhang> memetic, works here
[06:48] <memetic> You can use that URL you posted to set the wiggle to none?
[06:48] <memetic> Seems like on that page they recommend using compiz.
[06:49] <bazhang> memetic, in ccsm,disable, yes
[06:49] <Jieirn> memtic, ccsm is compiz
[06:50] <bazhang> compizconfig-settings-manager to be precise
[06:50] <memetic> Does Ubuntu support compiz?
[06:50] <bazhang> yes of course memetic
[06:50] <memetic> Really?  I thought that Compiz was being dropped.
[06:51] <bazhang> memetic, 12.04 is LTS.
[06:52] <ninp0> http://www.ted.com/talks/rachel_botsman_the_case_for_collaborative_consumption.html
[06:52] <memetic> Everything after 10.04 in Ubuntu has been a huge pain.
[06:52] <ninp0> oh and setfacl rocks.
[06:52] <bazhang> ninp0, wrong channel
[06:52] <ninp0> my bad
[06:52] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <memetic> I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely frustrated.
[06:52] <ninp0> sounds good thx :)
[06:53] <Otend> so, while expanding a partition backwards, I managed to be dropped back to the GRUB rescue console, with the error "ELF header smaller than expected"
[06:53] <memetic> Like, I've tried to give Unity a fair shot but it's extremely frustrating to get it all working with Compiz.
[06:53] <bazhang> memetic, everything is way too vague. narrow it down some
[06:53] <memetic> Unity and Compiz for example.
[06:53] <aum__> i do not have a serial port, though through "sudo setserial -g /dev/ttyS*" its showing /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4, what is the use and purpose of this ttyS0.
[06:54] <memetic> I have no idea how I got what I have now working.  My Nvidia card isn't supported or there are horrible problems when I try to use 3d desktop cube and (ctrl+alt+arrow keys), but that's more a problem with Nvidia but you wanted some specifics.
[06:54] <bazhang> memetic, what "horrible problems"
[06:54] <memetic> I'm extremely frustrated with what I had to do with 12.04 to get Compiz to work with Unity, and when I go to ccsm or whatever to disable the wiggle for notifications in the Unity side bar there, I see Compiz doesn't even have Unity enabled.
[06:55] <ninp0> /dev/ttyS0 is the first block device representative of a physical DB-9 port on your box
[06:55] <memetic> When you ctrl+alt+arrow key to move between desktops in 12.04 with some Nvidia cards it will lock the screen.
[06:55] <ninp0> i.e. serial communications.
[06:55] <memetic> There are some bug reports about that, but again it's more a problem with Nvidia.
[06:57] <Otend> so, yeah.  what should I do to repair GRUB?
[06:57] <aum__> ninp0, i know its a character device for serial communication , but i do not have it on my motherboard , so i just want to know why this device is there.
[07:01] <ninp0> possible you have an on-board serial breakout on your motherboard that may be used to push firmware to the motherboard's ICs during manufacture?
[07:01] <Maqs> hi #ubuntu. does anybody know a working solution for "GPU has fallen off the bus" X freezes? persistence mode, as suggested in about every google hit, does not work. nouveau does not fit my needs.
[07:01] <memetic> So, if I were to go from 12.04 to 12.10, would my Nvidia 550 TI work?  Or would I be stuck at a command line.
[07:01] <memetic> :|
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Otend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[07:03] <ninp0> @aum__ if it's a laptop it may also be a built-in cellular wifi card
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Otend: And hopefully you used a smart utility (like GParted) which left 1 MiB of unallocated space before the firt partition.
[07:04] <Otend> I indeed used gparted
[07:04] <Jordan_U> :)
[07:05] <Otend> (liveCD version, which has... rather poor sound interfacing.  as in, when shutting down, until the power is forcibly killed, it emits a loud screech at max volume)
[07:05] <mcstone> hello to all........
[07:05] <Otend> hello
[07:05] <mcstone> i'm newbie.....
[07:05] <binary_glitch> feeling like a stupid script kitty
[07:05] <mcstone> any girl's here..??
[07:06] <mcstone> I need girl.....
[07:06] <bazhang> wrong channel mcstone
[07:06] <mcstone> to party.
[07:06] <bazhang> mcstone, stop NOW
[07:06] <mcstone> where hannel..??
[07:06] <bazhang> mcstone, not this network
[07:06] <mcstone> can i found the girls.  I kicked her off her won network for like 3 hours with her new computer her doughter got her for thanksgiving... now I feel like $4!+  !!!
[07:20] <dcherniv> FACT, pidgin
[07:20] <FACT> s
[07:20] <dcherniv> c
[07:21] <binary_glitch> h
[07:21] <binary_glitch> o
[07:21] <binary_glitch> o
[07:21] <binary_glitch> l
[07:21] <FloodBot1> binary_glitch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <dcherniv> haha
[07:26] <dougbb> has anyone successfully installed/run vmware workstation 9 with ubuntu 12.10?
[07:26] <dougbb> I've found a patch on line that seems promising, but before I tear out my working 8.x install I was hoping for a success story. :)
[07:29] <binary_glitch> No, I use virtual box, sorry dougbb.
[07:29] <dougbb> np
[07:32] <vucic1960> Hello again found the right software for  split and merge pdf documents how can i compress the pdf document it has over 40 mb - because i need it for sending email as job application
[07:32] <Nom-> Hey guys... I've got an installer application, and i'm trying to wrap the resulting installed files up into a debian package.  Are there any tools besides checkinstall (which seems to break this installer) that will help me do this?
[07:32] <vucic1960> name of software pdfsam
[07:36] <zvacet> uname -r gives 3.5.0-18-generic can I install pae kernel?
[07:36] <dougbb> vucic1960: pdfsam does work pretty well for split and merge, but I've never found anything that can compress a pdf as well as acrobat
[07:37] <force> force
[07:37] <binary_glitch> glitch
[07:38] <force> ubuntu 12.10 internet connection is slow
[07:38] <force> how to retify
[07:38] <vucic1960> thx dougbb ... pdfmod works for compressing ?
[07:39] <dougbb> vucic1960: dunno, never tried it
[07:39] <Slart> vucic1960: many tools that split and join pdfs has some kind of switch to also compress the end result.. check the man page for the tool you're using.. I've never been able to do much with just compressing the pdf, it's almost always better to try to minimize the size of images and such before even creating the pdf
[07:41] <vucic1960> okay thanks ... thought there is any software like adobe acrobat for Ubuntu..
[07:41] <vucic1960> i will try @Slart
[07:41] <dcherniv> vucic1960, oh my... yes
[07:41] <bazhang> vucic1960, yes, acroread
[07:42] <bazhang> its in the partner repo vucic1960
[07:42] <bazhang> !partner | vucic1960
[07:42] <dougbb> bazhang: acroread != acrobat
[07:42] <dcherniv> acroread != acrobat
[07:42] <zvacet> I always use pae kernal and I know processor is capable to run it why don´t I have it installed
[07:42] <dougbb> I doubt acroread would help with compression, but it's worth a shot
[07:42] <kutu> Hello World!
[07:43] <kutu> I'm a Linux newbee and wanna be an expert
[07:43] <bazhang> !manual | kutu start here
[07:43] <matt865> as do i
[07:43] <bazhang> !rute | kutu and here
[07:44] <matt865> I want to make a movie with you guys
[07:44] <kutu> Thanks, guys
[07:44] <bazhang> matt865, linear video editor?
[07:45] <matt865> a porno
[07:45] <bazhang> matt865, stop it NOW
[07:45] <matt865> haha
[07:46] <kutu> Hey, can any of you guys know how to login as root in Ubuntu?
[07:47] <dougbb> kutu, what are you trying to accomplish by doing that?
[07:47] <g00053> guys , has anyone here moved thier webcache to ram ? I've found a few different methods of doing it and I'm unsure which is correct
[07:47] <bazhang> kutu, you dont
[07:47] <g00053> kutu, sudo su
[07:47] <Slart> kutu: root login isn't usually used in ubuntu.. sudo can do anything root related you need to do
[07:47] <bazhang> g00053, thats not correct
[07:47] <zvacet> kutu: sudo -i
[07:47] <Slart> !sudo | kutu
 you have to enable the root acount to log into a gui (desktop) as root
[07:47] <g00053> bazhang, it's not THAT wrong...
[07:48] <bazhang> binary_glitch, which is never necessary
[07:48] <bazhang> g00053, dont recommend it here
[07:48] <binary_glitch> it is advised against doing so
[07:49] <binary_glitch> I would just use the termnal, and yes I have found a rare necessity to gui into root thank you very much
[07:49] <bazhang> sudo -i then binary_glitch
[07:49] <kutu> I don't really want to login; I asked just because
[07:49] <kutu> I read it in a book
[07:49] <dougbb> kutu: ok, then follow the advice given ... don't do that
[07:49] <binary_glitch> su, sudo, sudo -i and gksudo did not work in that case.
[07:49] <god_is_dead> anyone help me with installing java in backtrack
[07:50] <kutu> and couldn't login by giving username as root
[07:50] <kutu> or sudo
[07:50] <bazhang> god_is_dead, try the backtrack support channel
[07:50] <g00053> whats the big deal anyway ?
[07:50] <god_is_dead> thank you
[07:50] <bazhang> #backtrack-linux god_is_dead
[07:51] <dougbb> ok, well, so far vmware 9.0.1 seems to be working well, in case anyone cares :)
[07:51] <zvacet> sorry everybody  because I was blind I´m using pae already
[07:52] <bazhang> dougbb, they have a channel here on freenode as well, if you were interested
[07:52] <binary_glitch> kutu just don't worry about it, it you want to expirment with it just to play, just know you'r likly to crash your system... but set it up in a persistant live usb and play like that or use virtual box... I can help you with either method, but that way you dont loose anything if you brake it.
[07:52] <bazhang> #vmware iirc
[07:52] <dougbb> zvacet: that's a great kind of problem to have :)
[07:53] <dougbb> bazhang: thanks ... they tend to focus on more general topics, whereas "keeping up with the latest kernel fun" is more of a linux'y topic
[07:53] <kutu> guys, where can I found linux kernel's source code?
[07:53] <lhavelund> kutu: http://kernel.org
[07:54] <zvacet> dougbb: yes I jusr read that pae is now named generic I didn´t know that
[07:54] <binary_glitch> kernel.org
[07:54] <binary_glitch> oh sorry
[07:54] <kutu> I mean in the "/" directory
[07:55] <dougbb> zvacet: what is the output of uname -a
[07:55] <dougbb> kutu: it isn't necessarily installed on your system
[07:55] <binary_glitch> kutu are you trying to edityour kernel?
[07:55] <god_is_dead> won't let me join channel #backtrack-linux
[07:56] <zvacet>  dougbb:3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 19 10:27:31 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[07:56] <kutu> no just wanna see it
[07:56] <ogny> karakedi: todoist kullanir misin?
[07:56] <binary_glitch> the source isn't usual given in a direcroty, it's already compiled...lol
[07:56] <ogny> so sorry
[07:57] <binary_glitch> oh well get it from http://kernel.org
[07:57] <dougbb> zvacet: ok, then you should be good to go :)
[07:57] <dougbb> zvacet: this page looks useful as well: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[07:57] <kutu> well is the Linux licence is given with the software
[07:58] <dougbb> zvacet: if your cpu is 64 bit you might also consider installing the 64 bit version of ubuntu, that would eliminate your PAE concerns :)
[07:58] <blackshirt> kutu, ??
[07:58] <tyteen4a03> hi, is there a dual boot Android and Ubuntu solution for Nexus 7 currently? Google is giving me mixed results
[07:58] <bazhang> kutu, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[07:58] <zvacet> dougbb: ubuntu make changes in naming kernel I read it  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[07:59] <dougbb> ok
[07:59] <kutu> I mean is the GNU Licence is given with Ubuntu
[07:59] <zvacet> dougbb : I have pae everything is ok
[07:59] <bazhang> kutu, lets take this chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:59] <binary_glitch> many linux licenses are given with the sofware verious packages on a given system, some are simply refered to, and you have to look them up... what specific software
[07:59] <force_> ubuntu internet connection is slow
[07:59] <blackshirt> kutu, gpl was applied to software
[07:59] <dougbb> kutu: sure, but the license only requires that you have access to the source, not that it is installed
[08:00] <zvacet> dougbb: and I don´t want to reinstall  :)
[08:00] <force_> blackshirt, ubuntu internet connection is slow how to retify
[08:01] <dougbb> zvacet: aw c'mon, re-installing is fun :)
[08:01] <blackshirt> force_, what connection are you using?
[08:01] <binary_glitch> "aw c'mon, re-installing is fun :)" right...lol
[08:02] <dougbb> I just finished rearranging everything so that I could actually use the hardware raid card that came with this system .... fun fun fun!
[08:02] <zvacet> dougbb: no it is not I reinstalled recently
[08:03] <binary_glitch> I miss the days when you got to choose each and every individual package that was nstalled during instalation
[08:03] <dougbb> zvacet: sorry, poor attempt at humor
[08:03] <kutu> I'm currently dual booting with win7[problem contd.]
[08:03] <dougbb> binary_glitch: I use ubuntu on purpose so that I don't have to do that :)
[08:03] <zvacet> dougbb: it is ok I have to reinstall after bad upgrade I´m crying for times with alternate Cd
[08:03] <dougbb> although I keep finding things to delete, which is always fun
[08:04] <kutu> but after using linux for some time want to purely shift to it.[prb. contd.]]
[08:04] <blackshirt> kutu, thats not a problem .. Dual, trial,qual, or multi boot was great
[08:04] <binary_glitch> aw, but don't you like dependency nightmares?
[08:04] <bazhang> !enter | kutu
[08:04] <zvacet> dougbb: try mini iso once and make it your custom ubuntu  ;)
[08:05] <bazhang> kutu, what is the actual question. all on ONE line
[08:05] <kutu> ubottu,bazhang:got it
[08:05] <blackgatonegro> I have a lenovo ideapad 2470, isnt there a linux /ubuntu video driver for it?
[08:06] <bazhang> blackgatonegro, whats the card
[08:06] <zvacet> kutu: thewre is nothing wrong with dual booting take some time to get used to ubuntu and then make decision
[08:06] <dougbb> kutu, it depends on what you're using windows for ... there are very good software packages that fulfill a lot of needs, and will allow you to use linux as  your primary desktop, but there are some things that only run in windows. If you need them, you have to boot windows, and that's ok ... use the right tool for the job
[08:06] <blackgatonegro> no clue, ubuntu does not find any private drivers for it....
[08:07] <blackgatonegro> there is also a bug with qhe sound controlers
[08:07] <dougbb> Personally I'm trying to get a windows VM working well enough in linux so that I don't have to dual-boot anymore, but I'm still a ways off from that goal
[08:08] <blackgatonegro> dougbb, tried play on linux?
[08:08] <dougbb> I'm spending more time in the business world lately, so there are some things I have to use windows for ... as good as libreoffice is, microsoft is better at making their file formats hard to use
[08:09] <dougbb> blackgatonegro: nope ... I have been using vmware workstation
[08:09] <blackshirt> !atheros
[08:09] <blackshirt> !atheros | force_
[08:09] <blackgatonegro> dougbb, play on linux is good if you only wanna use games
[08:09] <kutu> now problem is how to make my total HDD available to Ubuntu without losing my entire media type data[eg.pics,movies]and my Ubuntu installed softwares.
[08:10] <dougbb> blackgatonegro: I need office 2010
[08:10] <dougbb> kutu, you're actually better off with a partition for windows, a partition for data, and an extended partition for linux
[08:11] <dougbb> that way your data can be shared between the 2 operating systems
[08:11] <blackgatonegro> dougbb, play on linux also lets you use office I think, it also helps a lot installing directx and that, and is on ubuntu repos, give it a try.
[08:11] <dougbb> ubuntu handles NTFS partitions very well
[08:11] <dougbb> blackgatonegro: thank you for the suggestion :)
[08:12] <dougbb> guess he's going to go play a game :)
[08:14] <kutu> I wanna make only 2 partitions; 1 for Linux 2 for media. i dont need win7 anymore.
[08:14] <dougbb> kutu: why 2 for media?
[08:14] <kutu> then only 1
[08:16] <dougbb> kutu, in that case, you can have 1 partition for the linux / and /usr, 1 for swap, 1 for /var, and the rest for /home
[08:16] <dougbb> your data will go on /home
[08:16] <dougbb> I like to do about 10 G /, 150% * RAM for swap, 4 G for /var
[08:17] <kutu> please write the process
[08:17] <kutu> I have 500GB Hdd
[08:17] <kutu> +2GB RAM
[08:17] <dougbb> kutu, that's plenty big enough
[08:17] <dougbb> the installer CD will let you create and size the partitions
[08:17] <dougbb> just be sure to back up your data before you install :)
[08:18] <dougbb> since your HD is so large, you might want to go 15 G for /, but usually 10 is more than enough
[08:21] <binary_glitch> wanna walk him through encripting his /home file too? lol
[08:21] <dougbb> heh
[08:21] <kutu> the issue is on backing up. I have calculated that my used space [linux os+media]<=30GB.If I use a 40 GB HDD as backup then how can I backup media+Ubuntu
[08:21] <dougbb> well, I personally have my data on a separate partition, and I use truecrypt for encryption
[08:21] <dougbb> kutu: you don't have to back up the OS
[08:22] <dougbb> you just have to back up your data
[08:22] <kutu> but then the softwares installed will be gone too
[08:22] <dougbb> kutu: right, you're going to reinstall the OS after you repartition the drive
[08:22] <binary_glitch> I keep my data on a twin portable tara drives
[08:23] <binary_glitch> my internal is dedicated to os and apps
[08:23] <dougbb> kutu: you're going to want to do all of this with the installer CD
[08:23] <blackshirt> kutu, usually your software installed was downloaded first and resides on apt cache dir
 true
[08:24] <zvacet> kutu: if you want to save ntfs partition with just add it to fstab read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604251
[08:24] <mon> hello all
[08:24] <binary_glitch> him mon
[08:25] <blackshirt> binary_glitch, sure, apt was doing that until you clean cache
[08:25] <zvacet> kutu : you can use aptoncd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD
[08:25]  * dougbb just tried bleachbit for the first time today ... that was fun
[08:26] <mon> i'm writing because a thing I face a kernel bug in hardy 8.04
[08:26] <zvacet> dougbb:  did you delete something important  :)
[08:26] <mon> and want to know if someone have seen it before
[08:26] <binary_glitch> discribe it mon
[08:27] <dougbb> zvacet: heh, no
[08:27] <zvacet> dougbb : good  ;)
[08:27] <dougbb> I meant "fun" in the traditional sense
[08:27] <mon> We have a problem with puppet and certain kind of machines from our farm (+300), those with Supermicro X8SIE motherboard. Sometime when running puppet the machine crash, we loss access to it and logging through IPMI doesn't show anything in the console, the only thing we can do is a cold reboot. Then if we run puppet again, nothing happens. If we run puppet several days after it could be another crash or not, it is random. I debugged th
[08:27] <dougbb> deleted a whole bunch of old apt stuff, that's what made me think of it
[08:27] <zvacet> dougbb: I know what you mean
[08:28] <mon> I debugged the problem and get the conclusion the cause was running "facter", running it in a mpssh session caused 7 or 8 crashes in different machines.
[08:28] <kutu> so if I,1)make a bavkup of[apt cache+media];2)reinstall Ubuntu after suitable partitioning;3)copy paste apt cache -will my Ubuntu hold the same softs as before?
[08:29] <riqdiiz> where  can I  get mpeg encorder to play mp3 songs ?
[08:29] <kutu> that would be c in 'bavkup'
[08:29] <dougbb> kutu: depends .... anything you installed after installing the OS itself will have to be reinstalled
[08:30] <Aaron> riqdiiz, use totem or such
[08:30] <mon> kernel 2.6.24-28-server
[08:30] <mon> I took some straces on a crash
[08:31] <epic_> ridiiz use clementine
[08:31] <roger21> hi, i updated to 12.04 and transmission don't connect to https tracker anymore, is there something i should check?
[08:31] <zvacet> kutu : if you copy var/cache/apt/archives the you can install packages again
[08:31] <binary_glitch> if kutu where only around when a ton of software had to be compiled from tar balls... he wouln't feel so badabout having to reinstall his software... lol
[08:31] <epic_> roger21 : remove transmission and install qbittorent
[08:32] <dougbb> roger21: I second epic_'s suggestion :)
[08:32] <blackshirt> kutu, you can repack your installed packages with dpkg-repack and make a backup for it
[08:32] <riqdiiz> It requests to search for the codecs and when it does comes up with nothing.
[08:32] <zvacet> binary_glitch: depends if he use checkinstall  ;)
[08:32] <roger21> ok, won't do
[08:33] <epic_> riqdiiz : just install vlc or clementine that's it.
[08:33] <dougbb> riqdiiz: if you want to listen to mp3s you might need the "restricted extras" package
[08:33] <mon> facter use dmidecode, has someone experience something similar?
[08:34] <zvacet> riqdiiz: install ubuntu-restricted-extras for sure
[08:34] <kutu> thank you all for helping me to solve this problem!
[08:34] <mon> is any way to debug this kind of crashes?
[08:34] <eightfold> hi. i'm about to buy a laptop with radeon 6310m. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver says "These cards should work with Ubuntu Oneric/11.10".
[08:34] <eightfold> does that mean they work with 11.10 AND UP?
[08:34] <zvacet> kutu: than them if it work  :)
[08:35] <riqdiiz> where can I get them?
[08:35] <Guest49255> when installing the latest download, my current hd config has 100gb free space, if i select install along side it will use that and set up swap in that space as well??
[08:35] <epic_> riqdiiz: ubuntu software centre
[08:35] <zvacet> riqdiiz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:35] <Guest49255> thats...100 gb unallocated space..its not formatted yet
[08:36] <hall6> These are questions from Zonal Computing olympiad in India.
[08:36] <hall6> Question 1: http://pastebin.com/Sa6gRFuK
[08:36] <binary_glitch> still if he had to reinatall half his apps through apt-get in the command line, and compile the other half, a time or too before, using software center would b a cinch... I remember using lynx text browser, and trying towrap my head aroud wat a repository was... but then again I didn't have much computer experience either... I've only use linux my whole life...
[08:36] <hall6> Question 2:http://pastebin.com/TxTiGmaC
[08:37] <binary_glitch> that was @ <zvacet>
[08:37] <hall6> Does anyone know how do I evaluvate the input in question 1
[08:37] <dougbb> hall6: we won't help you do your homework, sorry :)
[08:38] <blackshirt> hall6, do it in your library :d :d :d
[08:38] <hall6> This isn't my homework. The olympiad ended weeks ago. I an still not able to solve them
[08:38] <epic_> dougbbb : rightly said'
[08:38] <XRS1> try #math
[08:39] <Guest49255> someone please, my hard drive has 100gb unallocated space, if i select install ubuntu alongside them will it use that space and also set up swap in that space..using the latest download from the site, lts
[08:39] <Guest49255> 64bit
[08:39] <epic_> Guestt49255:  along side what?
[08:39] <Guest49255> windows
[08:39] <XRS1> i have a hard time trusting the installer. i choose "something else" and set it up by hand (scroll down and make sure grub is going to the right drive)