[00:25] <axisys> I have a samba share..i can access it in r/w mode .. is there a way to create a locked folder ?
[00:25] <axisys> i created the samba share in 10.04.02
[00:26] <axisys> and I access it from 10.10 or mac ppc .. no problem
[00:40] <SpamapS> axisys: what do you mean by "locked" ?
[00:48] <peedee> hi there..just wondering if anyone knows how to set the default region in an environment variable for ec2-api-tools? I'm in australia so I want to have all my instances in ap-southeast-1 but with all the command line tools like ec2-descirbe-instances for example, if you don't specify a region explicitly it assumes us-east-1
[00:51] <shadow42085> I am trying to setup a private mailserver after installation and configuration I get to testing and when I telnet into it and run ehlo mail.sitename.domain I dont see auth login and auth=login but I see verthing else any ideas?
[00:51] <shadow42085> everything**
[01:01] <jjohansen1> hggdh: did you get to testing a plain kvm instance?  Also can we test natty kernel on maverick
[01:09] <hggdh> jjohansen1: did not have time, with all the issues on the lucid kernel sru test
[01:09] <hggdh> jjohansen1: but will get back to it asap, this is also critical...
[01:09] <jjohansen1> hggdh: okay, just checking
[01:11] <shadow42085> anyone have a solution to my issue or do I need to clarify more
[01:16] <axisys> SpamapS: password protected
[01:38] <SpamapS> axisys: there are a few ways to do it. The simplest one is, on the server side, create an smbpasswd record for the users you want to have access with 'smbpasswd -a user' .. then add 'valid users = user' to the entry in smb.conf. If you're sharing via the GUI, I think you can just list the valid users there.
[03:10] <RoAkSoAx>  kirkland apparently, it seems/win 11
[03:10] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: apparently there's some issue with the virtinst python module as I can'
[03:11] <RoAkSoAx> can't get an Ubuntu instance to run
[03:11] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ?
[03:11] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: with cobbler/koan?
[03:12] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: virt-inst is kind of always broken, in my experience
[03:12] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: koan, uses virtinst python module to install VM's in the host
[03:12] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: this uses the HTTP repo created by cobbler
[03:12] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: the Fedora repo is recognized correctly as a repo
[03:13] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: you might poke soren about virtinst tomorrow; as I recall, I think he is/was a fan of virtinst (?) but I could be completely wrong about that one
[03:13] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah the Ubuntu repo is not recognized as one
[03:13] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland:
[03:13] <RoAkSoAx> issue similar to: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29476/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-http-in-virtual-manager
[03:14] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: and yes will poke him tomorrow to try to get this fixed by the end of the week
[03:14] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: cool
[03:17] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: powernap is getting more and more attention, so cool :)
[03:21] <twb> Grr, timeout(1) isn't part of ubuntu-minimal as at lucid
[03:21] <twb> Breaks my .profile
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to set up SpamAssassin with Postfix via Amavis-New per https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html .  I believe I have everything installed, but I do not have the X-Spam-* headers on my messages yet.
[08:15] <soren> kirkland, RoAkSoAx: I'm not particularly fond of virtinst. It was (and is, I think) a necessary evil. Wazzup?
[08:15] <nealmcb_> howdy soren :)
[08:16] <soren> nealmcb_: Hi! :)
[08:16] <soren> nealmcb_: Up late/early or in an unusual $TZ?
[08:17] <nealmcb_> up late, headed to DC tomorrow^H^H later today for IDtrust.  I'm doing the opposite of a gradual adjustment to the 2 hr shift
[08:17] <nealmcb_> but now time for bed....
[08:18] <soren> nealmcb_: Have fun :)
[08:18] <nealmcb_> having too much fun getting my system76 lemur fully installed and running better
[08:18] <nealmcb_> thanks - and thanks again for your wise words on kvm, xen and who-knows-what....
[08:19] <soren> Oh, thank *you* for the kind words ;)
[08:19] <slime_> hello all, i need to choose opensource groupware solution , any recommendation  for  good one that support calendar ?
[08:21] <soren> slime_: I've never used it myself, but I think citadel is what people tend to use.
[08:21] <slime_> thanks, soren
[09:06] <Zero_Dogg> EOL for 6.06 is marked as June this year, but has no date. That means June 1, right?
[09:10] <twb> That would be the safest assumption, I think
[09:10] <Zero_Dogg> yep, I figured as much, just wanted to doublecheck. Thanks :)
[09:30] <soren> Wow, Dapper EOL's? Time sure does fly.
[11:07] <Daviey> zul, Morning, can you check into https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/lxc/natty-201104041611/+merge/56200 please?
[11:50] <Kartagis> hi
[11:50] <Kartagis> may I ask how to create a virtual domain/user please?
[11:55] <zul> Daviey: if i have to :)
[11:56] <Daviey> zul, Just thought you might /want/ to :)
[11:57] <andygraybeal> mornning
[11:57] <Daviey> morning andygraybeal !
[11:58] <andygraybeal> :)
[12:06] <Kartagis> may I ask how to create a virtual domain/user please?
[12:41] <airtonix> Kartagis: your question doesn't make sense
[12:42] <Kartagis> airtonix: I'm trying to configure postfix to use virtual domain
[12:42] <Kartagis> I've got the related lines
[12:42] <Kartagis> I'm adding them
[12:42] <airtonix> Kartagis: what do you mean by "Virtual Domain" ?
[12:42] <Kartagis> but how to create virtual domain/user?
[12:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: I explained this to you
[12:43] <Kartagis> airtonix: non-unix accounts
[12:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: it depends how your mail server and imap server is setup
[12:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: eg: things like backend account storage
[12:43] <ikonia> what method you've setup for storing the usernames/passwords
[12:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: there are many guides on the net, some even include web front end guis
[12:43] <airtonix> kerberos/ldap etc etc
[12:44] <ikonia> exactly
[12:44] <ikonia> mysql is a popular choice, more so for web guis to manipulate
[12:44] <Kartagis> ikonia: I am trying to configure the mail server now
[12:44] <ikonia> ok - I understand that, but how you add the users depends on how you are setting it up
[12:45] <ikonia> there are many options, (lots of guides too)
[12:45] <Kartagis> ikonia: how I add the users? I don't know how to add non-unix accounts
[12:46] <ikonia> Kartagis: it depends on the method you are using for holding the accounts and passwords
[12:46] <ikonia> Kartagis: as I've said there are many options and many guides on how to setup these options, once you chose one, that is how you will add the users
[12:47] <Kartagis> ikonia: I think I'll go for the non-unix account approach
[12:47] <ikonia> you've said that
[12:47] <ikonia> there are MANY ways to store non-unix accounts,
[12:47] <ikonia> the method you chose dictates how you will add them
[12:49] <airtonix> i like to store my non-unix accounts in outlook express reply mails
[12:49] <airtonix> individually
[12:49] <ikonia> ha ha
[12:50] <ikonia> naughty response
[12:50] <airtonix> :<
[13:06] <awanti> i have edited some group policies on windows 7. now i want to deploy it on my every windows 7 pc during logon from smaba pdc (i want to execute this file "login script.cmd or .bat"........... But how i have to do it plz.
[13:19] <zul> morning
[13:32] <jamespage> hey zul o/
[13:32] <zul> hey jamespage how are you?
[13:32] <jamespage> fine thanks - and you?
[13:33] <zul> jamespage: good just trying to wake up
[14:19] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:22] <raphink> hi RoAkSoAx
[14:24] <RoAkSoAx> hi raphink
[14:27] <raphink> what's up RoAkSoAx ?
[14:36] <jdonnaruma> anyone have experience with installing imapproxy? attempting to start it at the end of the 'apt-get install imapproxy' fails every time
[14:39] <axisys> <IP_ADDRESS>:/export/arl_splunk /splunk nfs rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=<IP_ADDRESS>,mountvers=3,mountproto=tcp,addr=<IP_ADDRESS> 0 0
[14:39] <axisys> ^ cat /proc/mounts
[14:40] <axisys> how do I mount it ?
[14:40] <axisys> so it sticks a reboot?
[14:40] <pmatulis_> axisys: sticks a reboot?  what does that mean?
[14:40] <axisys> <IP_ADDRESS>:/export/arl_splunk /splunk nfs rw,relatime 0 0  <-- this should be enoung for fstab based on the /proc/mounts ?
[14:41] <axisys> pmatulis_: survives a reboot in other words
[14:42] <pmatulis_> axisys: with the mount command i guess (mount /splunk)
[14:43] <axisys> pmatulis_: the fstab entry looks kosher ?
[14:43] <axisys> <IP_ADDRESS>:/export/arl_splunk /splunk nfs rw,relatime 0 0
[14:44] <pmatulis_> axisys: looks overly complex, not sure.  try it
[14:44] <axisys> pmatulis_: stole it from /proc/mounts
[14:45] <pmatulis_> axisys: not supposed to
[14:45] <axisys> also rw,relatime,vers=4 will mount it as nfsv4 ?
[14:47] <axisys> the nfs server supports nfsv4 .. how do I mount it as nfsv4 share instead of default nfsv3 ?
[14:47] <Kartagis> how do I know if dovecot supports mysql?
[14:48] <pmatulis_> axisys: read the ubuntu server guide
[14:49] <zul> hggdh: can i use one of the test machines
[15:22] <robbiew> RoAkSoAx: hey...we have gfs and ocfs packages in main, right?
[15:22] <RoAkSoAx> robbiew: yes we do
[15:22] <Kartagis> can I ask a question about postfixadmin?
[15:23] <RoAkSoAx> robbiew: they have been there for ages now :)
[15:23] <robbiew> RoAkSoAx: sweet
[15:23] <robbiew> thnx
[15:23] <zul> hallyn: i think i fixed the lxc/libvirt/openstack issue
[15:24] <hallyn> what was it?
[15:51] <RoAkSoAx> ubunu/win 24
[15:51] <RoAkSoAx> ashhh
[15:56] <axisys> we are planning to setup a secure ubuntu server as proof of concept.. it might replace some of the old servers that we are using to access our netowork.. any suggestion of good security audit tool that reports what is not secure in the box.. i saw bastille does it. but it does not look updated since 2008
[16:11] <gagarine> hello I have a folder with permission like that:
[16:11] <gagarine> drwxrwsr-x 10 root www-pub  4096 Apr  5 15:02 htdocs
[16:12] <gagarine> but I can write in the folder altough I'm in the group www-pub
[16:12] <gagarine> any idea why?
[16:13] <gagarine> hooo nevermind...
[16:13] <gagarine> I need to logout, login
[16:13] <gagarine> ... i didn't know than group was loaded only on loging
[16:34] <zul> who is running the meeting today btw?
[16:55] <jamespage> zul: me
[16:55] <zul> ok good :)
[16:56] <zul> jamespage: i can never remember my attention span sucks
[16:56] <jamespage> zul: :-)
[16:58] <hggdh> hallyn: re. bug 746751 -- manually running KVM on the natty machine (under a maverick kernel) works; running under euca fails
[17:01] <hallyn> hggdh: ok, i think i'm going to focus on that one this afternoon.
[17:01] <hallyn> hggdh: you use a lot of bare metal - have you seen any libvirt crashes on startup?
[17:01] <hallyn> (there is a libpciaccess thread safety bug, with lots of dups, but hard to reproduce, not seemingly possible on my laptops)
[17:06] <hggdh> hallyn: I have not seen any crashes so far
[17:06] <hallyn> ok, thanks
[17:06] <hggdh> but I will keep an eye for it...
[17:16] <jjohansen> hggdh: any news?  /me has been off line
[17:16] <hggdh> jjohansen: yes. manually running a KVM image on the machine (natty-based, but running a maverick kernel) is working
[17:16] <hggdh> the KVM image is for lucid, BTW. I do not think I could create a more convoluted environment
[17:16] <jjohansen> hggdh: have you tried natty + natty kernel
[17:16] <jjohansen> :)
[17:16] <bdamos> hi, here: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/server/virtualisation, it says ubuntu can be configured with a low footprint, but i can't find much documentation on how to do this. does it just mean services can be disabled to reduce the footprint? or is it more to it then than?
[17:16] <bdamos> that*
[17:16] <hggdh> jjohansen: not yet... I am waiting for this test to end (I am running a kernel SRU test there, and it is working better than on my laptop)
[17:17] <hggdh> but this will be the next test, already in view ;-)
[17:17] <orudie> greetings. how can I get a list of everyone in 'sudo usermod -s /bin/false user' and 'sudo chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin username', and what is the difference between the two ?
[17:18] <gagarine> how do I inerhit owner from a parent directory? it's for /var/www because more than one user write files in this directroy
[17:18] <hggdh> orudie: nologin gives you an error message
[17:19] <gagarine> i made a group www-pub with write access and add user to this one
[17:19] <gagarine> www and content belong to root for the moment
[17:20] <orudie> hggdh, it doesn't
[17:20] <h4x0r_x4x0r> morning
[17:20] <orudie> sup
[17:20] <gagarine> drwxrwsr-x 10 root www-pub  4096 Apr  5 15:23 htdocs
[17:20] <h4x0r_x4x0r> I'm looking for C++ IDE working in cloud
[17:22] <h4x0r_x4x0r> anyone of you know this?
[17:26] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: zul SpamapS get me out of a doubt, in Debian/Ubuntu, if software X installs a floder in /var/run/<folder>, then on boot, is /var/run/<folder> removed, or should files under it be cleaned up?
[17:26] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: /var/run is cleared on every reboot
[17:26] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: it's a tmpfs in memory
[17:26] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: /var/tmp is static across boots
[17:28] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: "preserved" rather
[17:28] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: right, is this something in what we differ from other distros? (Cause talking to a suse developer and they insist that directories should not be removed, but just clear files under the directories)
[17:34] <RoAkSoAx> zul: yeah I'm aware of that. but the discussion came I had was with upstream because of bug #751344
[17:36] <RoAkSoAx> zul: on which, upstream makefile installs /var/run/resource-agents, and one of the upstream developers was saying that folders under /var/run/<folder>/* are not removed, but just cleared on boot
[17:36] <RoAkSoAx> zul: and I was saying that from my understanding, everything is cleared under /var/run on boot and that init scripts create folders (if necessary)
[17:37] <zul> RoakSoAx: thats right from my understanding as well
[17:40] <hallyn> hggdh: kvm by hand works, kvm through ecau fails - what about a hand-created libvirt kvm instance?
[17:41] <hallyn> (I'll try it out this afternoon if you haven't)
[17:41] <hggdh> hallyn: what would you need on this hand-crafted instance?
[17:42] <hallyn> nothing, just define a fresh backing file and hook it up to an iso to boot from, see if it works...
[17:42] <RoAkSoAx> zul: indeed! I guess this is an upstream error then
[17:43] <parkdriver> Is there anyone here with Webmin experience? I was wondering if there are any security/performance/etc issues that i should know of.
[17:43] <parkdriver> I'm planning to use it on a production server.
[17:44] <parkdriver> Of course doing everything with the command line is always the purest form of management but I guess I want to simplify things a bit without causing a lot of problems.
[17:45] <parkdriver> Alternatives to Webmin are of course welcome as well.
[17:46] <pmatulis_> !webmin | parkdriver
[17:47] <pmatulis_> !ebox | parkdriver
[17:47] <parkdriver> Good to hear in advance!
[17:48] <parkdriver> I tried eBox / Zentyal but the way it's designed just makes no sense
[17:49] <parkdriver> Configuring a single service is a pain because the configuration pages are spread all over the system. Not quite the minimalistic approach I was looking for.
[17:50] <parkdriver> Oh I see that Zentyal is essentially version 2 of eBox.
[18:01] <mok0_> parkdriver: on an Ubuntu server, all configuration files are in /etc/*
[18:01] <mok0_> not "spread all over the system"
[18:02] <parkdriver> with etc i meant 'et cetera'
[18:03] <parkdriver> and i was referring to the way that \Zentyal'
[18:03] <parkdriver> handles the configuration of services
[18:03] <parkdriver> which is quite counter intuitive, if you ask me
[18:09] <kuramanga> Hey guys, just wondering if any of you have experience getting current total disk space using Python? I've been poking around with using os.statvfs but can't get the numbers to match up and I'd rather not use subprocess to trigger df or fdisk calls.
[18:20] <mok0_> parkdriver: Sorry I misunderstood you
[18:21] <axisys> pmatulis_: ubuntu server guide https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html nfs client mount syntax for fstab does not look right
[18:21] <axisys> pmatulis_: example.hostname.com:/ubuntu /local/ubuntu nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
[18:21] <axisys> not all the columns are there
[18:21] <pmatulis_> axisys: what columns?
[18:22] <axisys> pmatulis_: these two columns are missing
[18:22] <axisys>  <dump>  <pass>
[18:22] <pmatulis_> axisys: you don't need them
[18:22] <axisys> <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>  not all these columns need to be populated?
[18:22] <axisys> pmatulis_: did not know that
[18:22] <axisys> pmatulis_: thanks
[18:23] <pmatulis_> axisys: yw
[18:35] <twopoint718> Under 10.10 server, I have noticed that until I make an outgoing network connection, I cannot (for example) ssh into it.  The same holds true for pinging, no response from the server until I first make some outgoing connection.  This is very weird and as far as I can tell I have checked obvious things (no firewall is present, ipconfig shows the correct public IP, correct routes, sshd is up and running at boot)
[18:38] <pmatulis_> twopoint718: switch issue?
[18:39] <twopoint718> pmatulis_: this is connected directly via ethernet to a wall jack.
[18:39] <twopoint718> I just did a test here, I pinged google from the server and then I was able to ssh into it from my desktop
[18:40] <twopoint718> Is there some kind of keepalive or "wakeup" that I need to configure for ssh?
[18:48] <patdk-wk> twopoint718, what is this *wall jack*
[18:48] <patdk-wk> wall jacks don't just work, they have to go somewhere
[18:48] <semiosis> twopoint718: ipconfig?
[18:48] <patdk-wk> semiosis, using windows?
[18:49] <twopoint718> semiosis: ifconfig shows a proper config.  And like I said, I *can* connect, but only if the server is the one initiating it.
[18:52] <twopoint718> patdk-lap: it's a big cisco switch, it has about 50 other things plugged in and so there'd be lots of people having trouble if it were the switch.
[18:53] <semiosis> twopoint718: does that switch do any NAT at all?
[18:53] <twopoint718> semiosis: no, this is a public-facing ip
[18:53] <patdk-wk> big cisco switchs tend to have arp issues
[18:53] <patdk-wk> do you keep changing arp or ports?
[18:53] <semiosis> twopoint718: it could still do NAT... but if it's not, then as patdk-wk suggests, sounds like ARP
[18:53] <patdk-wk> mac
[18:54] <patdk-wk> normally cisco switchs are set to ignore arp updates and to cache mac for like 4-8hours
[18:54] <patdk-wk> so most users never have an issue
[18:55] <semiosis> if you got back to the beginning state, where you could not ssh in, then you might tcpdump on the server and see if you're getting ARP queries when you try the failed SSH attempt
[18:56] <twopoint718> lemme tcpdump... thanks.
[18:58] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: are you still working on cobbler?
[18:59] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: not at the moment
[19:02] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: what can I help you with though?
[19:02] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: I was hoping you'd integrate an nqa-like preseed
[19:02] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: before GA
[19:03]  * RoyK just read on the zfs list about this guy that has stuffed 45 drives into the same raidz1 VDEV and now seems surprised it fails
[19:03] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah I just need to figure out what's wrong with virtinst which I'm gonna look again at later today
[19:04] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: k
[19:16] <RoAkSoAx> soren: ping
[19:27] <Lanta|N900> hey if i wanted to install ubuntu but select nothing on tasksel (i.e. base minimal system, not even "standard system utilities") then can i do that from a normal ubuntu disc or do i need the server disc?
[19:30] <twopoint718> semiosis, patdk-lap: thanks for all the help.  I've tracked it down (duh) to an ip conflict. "arping" showed two different MACs
[19:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: so this is what I get when trying to install the isntance with koan http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/589824/
[19:36] <semiosis> twopoint718: it's always the simple stuff... glad you figured it out :)
[19:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: it is definitely something wrong with virtinst that can't correctly determine if the ISO is an ubuntu ISO from an HTTP location
[19:39] <suigeneris> hello
[19:39] <suigeneris> I am reading this page: http://bliki.rimuhosting.com/space/knowledgebase/linux/mail/postfixadmin+on+debian+sarge and it says dovecot.conf should be added auth_userdb line. but when I restart, I get Unknown setting: auth_userdb. any thought would be appreciated
[20:29] <Roasted> how do I make dhcp3 auto start on an ubuntu server?
[20:29] <Roasted> I have it installed but it doesnt auto start when I fire up the box
[20:31] <semiosis> Roasted: update-rc.d?
[20:32] <patdk-wk> edit /etc/defaults/dhcp*
[20:32] <patdk-wk> you have to define the interfaces it should use, before it will start
[20:34] <zul> SpamapS: so what do you think of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/740777?
[20:37] <SpamapS> uvirtbot: hm
[20:37] <suigeneris> postfix/trivial-rewrite[30125]: warning: connect to mysql server localhost: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) <--- what's this error? the mysql server is running and the sock file is there
[20:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: alrighty!! Finally I got the ISO to launch with virtinst, which I had to patch... know will look into the nqa stuff
[20:39] <SharkOn> hey im trying to conf one of my pages to run apache on port 88, i have added NameVirtualhost *.88 and listen 88 to ports.conf, and my page is using virtualhost *:88 in sites-enabled, i have also opened port 88, but still not working, does anyone know if i have forgot smoething?
[20:41] <osmosis> what would cause a sudden drop in # of inode table size?
[20:54] <ivoks> zul: i doubt that's required
[21:03] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: NQA
[21:03] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ?
[21:03] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: working?
[21:03] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: not quite yet :( just failed when trying to retrieve some packages I think, but at least I got it to launch :)
[21:04] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: command:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/589873/ had to amnually change the preseed in cobbler_web and add the extra options
[21:14] <patdk-wk> osmosis, that is easy
[21:14] <patdk-wk> the kernel using that memory for something else :)
[21:23] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok, nqa seems to be working now  YaY \o/
[21:28] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: \o\  /o/  \o\  /o/
[21:31] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: i'll upload it to ppa in  a bit
[21:32] <david5345> I added a user using the normal useradd -m newuser && passwd newuser command, but auth.log says "Failed password for invalid user newuser... " Oddly enough I've tried two different user names, and I have done this about a 100 times before, why won't it work now ? grepping /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow show's the user has been created and ls /home shows the user's directory. Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[21:50] <phoenixsampras> does 10.04  has older packages than 10.10? for ie. ruby
[21:51] <Jayro> hello, could anyone help me get sound working on Ubuntu 10.10 server edition. I am using mp3blaster but when i try to play a song i get "failed to open sound device"
[21:52] <phoenixsampras> does 10.04  has older packages than 10.10? for ie. ruby
[21:53] <guntbert> Jayro: excuse me - sound and server ? how does that fit?
[21:53] <Jayro> jukebox with a http interface
[21:53] <phoenixsampras> does 10.04  has older packages than 10.10? for ie. ruby
[21:54] <guntbert> !info ruby
[21:54] <guntbert> !info ruby lucid
[21:54] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: obviously not ^^
[22:06] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: btw.. cobbler package keeps adding diffs automatically
[22:06] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: yeah, wassup with that?
[22:07] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland:no idea... one of the weirdness of quilt :)
[22:14] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: i think it's becauseof a left over from .pc dir
[22:19] <zul> RoAkSoAx: wha?
[22:20] <phoenixsampras> what is the last ruby package on 10.0.4 ?
[22:20] <RoAkSoAx> zul: get the source from cobbler
[22:21] <RoAkSoAx> zul: and you'll see that there's
[22:21] <guntbert> !info ruby lucid
[22:21] <RoAkSoAx> zul: and you'll see that there's debian-changes-2.1.0-0ubuntu4
[22:21] <RoAkSoAx> n debian/patches
[22:21] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: ^^
[22:22] <phoenixsampras> 4.2? but they are on 1.9
[22:22] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: who is?
[22:22] <phoenixsampras> ruby
[22:23] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: strange
[22:23] <Jayro> could someone please help me get sound working on ubuntu server
[22:24] <guntbert> phoenixsampras: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ruby/ please
[22:24] <guntbert> Jayro: excuse me - sound and server ? how does that fit?
[22:24] <Jayro> jukebox with a http interface
[22:24] <Jayro> guntbert, ^
[22:24] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: right, thats because you have differences between orig and your tree that aren't tracked in quilt
[22:25] <guntbert> Jayro: I don't get it - but nvm - it was only curiosity
[22:25] <raphink_> guntbert: we have a kernel expert in our team that loves to code sound support early in the boot process to make servers do a duck sound when they turn on ;-)
[22:25] <raphink_> apart from that, dunno ;-)
[22:25] <Jayro> guntbert, do you think you could help me get the sound working?
[22:26] <guntbert> Jayro: really - no - sorry
[22:27] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: yeah which shows that those changes shouldn't have appear in the first place. I think that the way to resolve is by quilt pop -a and then, rm -rf .pc and that should be it
[22:29] <Jayro> does anyone know of a way to test the sound so i can see if it is just mp3 blaster?
[22:32] <TeTeT> Jayro: maybe aplay some wav file?
[22:33] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: yeah. Not sure. You guys still trying to fix the "bug" of it not being as usable as you'd like? ;)
[22:33] <Jayro> TeTet, i ran speaker-test and got alsa errors :S
[22:34] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: nah.. it is usable now. I just fixed koan (and virt-inst) to install KVM instances, and if using kirkland's NQA preseed, then everything is automatic :)
[22:37] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: glad you fixed that "bug"
[22:37] <SpamapS> :)
[22:37] <TeTeT> Jayro: hmm, maybe the wrong model is used, do you have the lspci -vvnn output somewhere on pastebin or so?
[22:40] <Jayro> Tetet, give me a sec
[22:41] <Jayro> TeTeT, lspci -vvnn output gives me the help for lspci
[22:42] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #751959 in cobbler (universe) "koan cannot deploy Ubuntu iKVM instances" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751959
[22:42] <TeTeT> Jayro: huh? you sure you used only one '-'?
[22:43] <Jayro> lspci -vvnn output is exactly what i used
[22:43] <soren> RoAkSoAx: pong
[22:43] <RoAkSoAx> soren: do you maintain/care about virtinst?
[22:43] <TeTeT> Jayro: what's the output of lspci then?
[22:44] <soren> RoAkSoAx: Do I detect a trick question?
[22:44] <Jayro> TeTeT, it just gives me the help file
[22:44] <soren> RoAkSoAx: Why do you ask? :)
[22:45] <RoAkSoAx> soren: Installation from an HTTP source fails (I was testing with cobbler/koan). So I patched it, and just wondering if you cared enough/know about it enough, to give an opinion
[22:45] <soren> RoAkSoAx: Ah. No, not at all.
[22:45] <Jayro> TeTeT, http://pastebin.com/i9QCujnL
[22:50] <RoAkSoAx> soren: alright, thanks though
[22:52] <TeTeT> Jayro: hmm, which ubuntu version? 10.04?
[22:52] <Jayro> server 10.10
[22:53] <gagarine> How I understand we can set a umask on process but not on directory... So they are not way to set a default set of permission for child directory?
[22:55] <Jayro> TeTeT,
[22:55] <Jayro> ^
[22:56] <TeTeT> Jayro: still digging through google links. how does your alsa-base.conf look like?
[22:56] <Jayro> TeTeT, where is that lcoated?
[22:56] <Jayro> located*
[22:56] <TeTeT> Jayro: maybe this of help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:57] <TeTeT> Jayro: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:57] <TeTeT> Jayro: for example my soundcards line there has options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N model=toshiba
[22:58] <TeTeT> Jayro: as I use a toshiba laptop the card has some sort of special wiring
[22:58] <Jayro> yeah, ill pastebin my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:59] <TeTeT> Jayro: this page also contains relevant info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[23:00] <Jayro> ill look, but here is my alsa-base.conf
[23:00] <Jayro> http://pastebin.com/a9vTZRKy
[23:00] <Jayro> TeTeT, ^
[23:02] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok, so I just uploaded cobbler and virtinst to ubuntu-virt PPA
[23:02] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: please give it a test
[23:03] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: you;ll need to add the nqa seed at /var/lib/cobbler/kickstarts/
[23:03] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: and then modify the profile for the server ISO you'v;e imported with cobbler
[23:04] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: to reflect the changes in the kickstart (pointing the nqa seed) and add the kernel options (priority etc etc)
[23:04] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: you should be able to launch it with a command such as:
[23:04] <Jayro> TeTeT, hows it look? Im guessing i have to add a line but idk what it is
[23:04] <TeTeT> Jayro: this thread seems to suggest all is fine with your card on 10.10. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1666715 any chance to try the desktop cd / usb key for checking it?
[23:04] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: sudo koan --server=<IP_ADDRESS> --virt --profile=ubuntu-server-i386 --virt-bridge virbr0
[23:05] <TeTeT> Jayro: I would guess option snd-hda-intel model=<something>
[23:05] <TeTeT> Jayro: but I have no idea what something should be
[23:06] <Jayro> hmm.. maybe Nvidea?
[23:06] <TeTeT> Jayro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[23:06] <Jayro> thanks
[23:07] <TeTeT> Jayro: good luck, I need to logoff now, midnight here
[23:07] <Jayro> TeTeT, thanks cya
[23:12] <phoenixsampras> how to know what version is my ubuntu server?
[23:17] <zertyui> hello anyone there ?
[23:24] <adam_g>  /window 4
[23:49] <parkdriver> How can you configure SSH to block IP's on the basis of the number of times the IP tries to connect to the SSH service?
[23:52] <soren> parkdriver: You can't. Look at fail2ban instead.
[23:52] <parkdriver> soren: thanks i'll look into it
[23:53] <parkdriver> soren: does that work with ufw?


[21:43] <mgdm> jussi01: works now, ta
[21:43] <assilva> jussi01, fodasse
[21:43] <rysiek|pl> !es | assilva
[21:43] <ubotu> assilva: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:43] <jussi01> mgdm: :)
[21:43] <padey> installed it, didn't help :(
[21:43] <ax1s> nobody else has tried changing default webcam port with gutsy?
[21:44] <padey> yeah, I updated a couple of times now
[21:44] <jussi01> padey: is your system completely up to date?
[21:44] <ax1s> padey: run it from the console kopete --nofork
[21:44] <ax1s> padey: and see what it says when it quits
[21:44] <jussi01> padey I had the issue myself
[21:45] <ax1s> hw can i force the old version of kopete to install?
[21:45] <ax1s> older*
[21:45] <padey> kopete: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:
[21:45] <padey> klauncher said: Unknown protocol ''
[21:46] <ax1s> wacky
[21:46] <ax1s> and your sources.list have repos enabled, not just cdrm?
[21:47] <padey> yupp
[21:47] <jussi01> padey: got to adept - file - manage repositories - third tab (updates) make sure first 2 boxes are clicked
[21:48] <ax1s> i dunno man.. gutsy has broken just about evernthing for me
[21:48] <XBehave> how do i find out the ip of a computer on a local network?
[21:48] <XBehave> i can see its samba share in dolphin
[21:48] <padey> yupp, all of them are already ticked
[21:49] <jussi01> padey: ok, try updating from the terminal - sudo apt-get update
[21:49] <ax1s> XBehave: ifconfig in terminal
[21:49] <padey> done that to :D
[21:50] <jussi01> padey: do you now have the little package box on the taskbar?
[21:50] <jussi01> orange one
[21:50] <Dragnslcr> XBehave- you could try just pinging it
[21:51] <XBehave> Dragnslcr: pinging what? the name?
[21:51] <Dragnslcr> XBehave- yeah
[21:51] <benpicco_> hi, how to find out what caused a kernel panic?
[21:51] <padey> I only have kwallet that almost looks like a package :/ nothing else, except soundmixer
[21:52] <ax1s> 0.12.4 vs 0.12.7
[21:52] <rysiek|pl> padey: in konsole: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[21:53] <ax1s> how do i revert to the older version of kopete
[21:53] <XBehave> didnt work but thanks
[21:53] <jussi01> ax1s: grab the old deb, then sudo dpkg -i olddeb.deb
[21:55] <padey> hehe, that totally did stuff but still didn't help
[21:55] <ax1s> jussi01:  thx ..
[21:55] <jussi01> padey: you may need to log out and in / restart for it to take... I think it was one of the kio packages
[21:56] <padey> thanks, I'll do that :)
[21:57] <ax1s> how do i force the package not to upgrade
[21:57] <jussi01> ax1s: man apt-get
[21:58] <jussi01> ax1s: there is info in there abbout it
[21:59] <jussi01> !pin | ax1s
[21:59] <ubotu> ax1s: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[21:59] <Olof[M]> Hello. I have a problem. Kubuntu isn't installing updates correctly (which has led me to other problems)
[22:00] <jussi01> Olof[M]: what exactly does it tell you?
[22:00] <ax1s> pinning.. thx g
[22:00] <Olof[M]> it tells me the latest update is installed, but they're all outdated
[22:00] <ax1s> gonna see if the old version lets me change ports, before installing feisty again and checking that
[22:00] <ax1s> thx jussi
[22:00] <jussi01> Olof[M]: outdated? what do you mean?
[22:01] <Olof[M]> jussi01: I think it's called Package handler or similar?
[22:01] <jussi01> Olof[M]: adept?
[22:01] <Olof[M]> anyways, it tells me the latest update is installed
[22:02] <Olof[M]> amarok for an example
[22:02] <Olof[M]> It's at 1.4.3, even though 1.4.8 just was released.
[22:02] <jussi01> !info amarok
[22:02] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 9618 kB, installed size 31020 kB
[22:02] <jussi01> !info amarok feisty
[22:02] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.5-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 14853 kB, installed size 33992 kB
[22:03] <jussi01> Olof[M]: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[22:03] <Olof[M]> I am not sure, how can I see that?
[22:03] <jussi01> !version
[22:03] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[22:03] <Olof[M]> (it's not  my computer. but I'm forced to use it as for now)
[22:04] <Olof[M]> konsole said: No LSB modules are available.
[22:04] <jussi01> Olof[M]: ok, give me: uname -a
[22:04] <Olof[M]> Linux Gammal 2.6.17-12-generic #2 SMP Mon Jul 16 19:37:58 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:06] <Olof[M]> does that mean it hasn't been updated since july 16th?
[22:06] <jussi01> Olof[M]: that seems to be an older version of ubuntu
[22:06] <Olof[M]> older than what?
[22:06] <jussi01> Olof[M]: mine is: Linux jussi 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:07] <jussi01> !gutsy | Olof[M]
[22:07] <ubotu> Olof[M]: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[22:07] <Olof[M]> jussi01: installing this. does it mean I have to format? do I have to burn a boot-cd?
[22:07] <blekos> hi, i'd like an explanation on the following matter. I messed up me pc. I reinstalled Kubuntu [only the root, the home remained intact]. Then I copied from my external HD an old back to my pc. Finally I installed the backup on my pc (that is I tried to do a full restore from the linux on the linux)
[22:08] <jussi01> !upgrade | Olof[M]
[22:08] <Olof[M]> I'm not used to using linux at all.
[22:08] <ubotu> Olof[M]: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:08] <Hirvinen> Sounds like edgy. 2.6.17-12 I mean.
[22:08] <blekos> why dont I see any changes? Should the back up be on a different partition/ hd than the one doing restore?
[22:08] <jussi01> Hirvinen: yeah, I ws thinking that also
[22:08] <jussi01> !info amarok edgy
[22:08] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB
[22:08] <jussi01> yep, edgy
[22:09] <Hirvinen> It' the same as on my edgy box.
[22:09] <jussi01> Olof[M]: you need to upgrade through the versions one at a time, or back up and install all over again.
[22:10] <Olof[M]> jussi01: ok, but since I can't see what LSB I'm using, should I install from the first? 4.** whatever?
[22:10] <Olof[M]> LTS, not lbs.
[22:10] <jussi01> Olof[M]: no - you are on edgy
[22:10] <Olof[M]> ok
[22:10] <whodat> say I've downloaded kdelirc and mythbuntu-lirc-generator via adept manager.  How would i go about running on of these programs if they don't appear in my application menu?
[22:10] <jussi01> Olof[M]: I would recommend a clean install of gutsy if backing up is not a problem.
[22:11] <Olof[M]> backing up is a problem :(
[22:11] <jussi01> !install | Olof[M]
[22:11] <ubotu> Olof[M]: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:11] <Olof[M]> no external devices, only broken harddrives.
[22:11] <whodat> I'm missing a fundamental concept on how to run programs that don't add themselves to application menus
[22:11] <jussi01> Olof[M]: oh, ouch. well I dont recommend doing much with out backing up first
[22:12] <Olof[M]> :/
[22:12] <whodat> and don't "tell noobs" what commands to use inside a terminal
[22:12] <jussi01> Olof[M]: try turning on backports repository - it has some newer versions of programs
[22:12] <Olof[M]> !backports
[22:12] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[22:12] <Olof[M]> ok
[22:13] <jussi01> Olof[M]: in the package manager , go to the menu and choose manage repositories, then go to the updates tab and make sure they are all ticked
[22:13] <steff> Hello, somebody knows how to run a script automatically when coming out from hibernation?
[22:14] <blekos> could someone inform me if it is neccessary the file to restore a back up should be on a different partition than the one making the restore to?
[22:14] <jhutchins> !vmware
[22:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[22:15] <jussi01> ok, IM off to bed. night all!
[22:15] <jhutchins> blekos: No.
[22:15] <Olof[M]> I can't find any tabs in "manage repositories"
[22:15] <blekos> thnx
[22:16] <jhutchins> blekos: Simplest example is config files, you copy the file to config.bak, make a change, decide you don't like it, copy config.bak back to config.
[22:16] <nando> alguien habla español
[22:16] <jhutchins> !es blekos
[22:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es blekos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:16] <jhutchins> !es | blekos
[22:16] <ubotu> blekos: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:17] <blekos> well I had made a backup with simple backup but when I did a restore from terminal didnt see my old progrs etc
[22:17] <jhutchins> !easysources | Olof[M] See if this helps
[22:17] <ubotu> Olof[M] See if this helps: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[22:18] <Olof[M]> you've lost me though. am I still supposed to install the latest updates? (edgy to feisty to gutsy)
[22:18] <Olof[M]> or will that help me in some other way?
[22:19] <al-mestar> pls audio codec
[22:23] <romunov> al-mestar: to play mp3s or...?
[22:23] <al-mestar> yes
[22:24] <jpatrick> !mp3 | al-mestar
[22:24] <ubotu> al-mestar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:24] <jamster545> hello
[22:25] <jamster545> hello?
[22:26] <jpatrick> hi jamster545
[22:26] <jamster545> i just pgraded to gutsy and now GRUB shows 3 different ubuntu selections
[22:26] <jamster545> upgraded*
[22:27] <jpatrick> probably just different kernels
[22:28] <jamster545> yes but i am not quite sure which one to use. i had two before because i used the wrong button in adept and it gave me both of them as 7.04, but now all are 7.10 with different numbers after the version
[22:28] <romunov> jpatrick: thanks for the help with the mp3 issue :>
[22:28] <romunov> i was away
[22:29] <jpatrick> jamster545: the top one should be just fine
[22:29] <jpatrick> romunov: no problem
[22:30] <jamster545> jpatrick: i think one has 7.10.xx-12 one is 7.10.xx-16 and another is 7.10.xx-15 note the xx is the number ithat i dont remember
[22:30] <romunov> jamster545: search the ubuntu package manager?
[22:30] <jamster545> romunov: i have it installed already
[22:31] <jamster545> i just have 3 of them showing up in GRUB
[22:32] <romunov> ai, sorry, i'm not following 100% - ok then :)
[22:32] <jamster545> np
[22:33] <jpatrick> jamster545: the one I have is Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[22:33] <jpatrick> jamster545: make sure it's a linux-image package you've installed
[22:34] <jamster545> ok. should i use the one with the highest (7.10.xx-16) then?
[22:35] <jamster545> jpatrick: is that ok? and then i know there is a way, i cant remember how, to edit the GRUB menu and remove the others
[22:35] <jpatrick> jamster545: removing their packages
[22:35] <jpatrick> jamster545: I have a linux-image_<IP_ADDRESS>.21
[22:36] <jamster545> isnt their also a file i can open in Kate and kill it? jpatrick
[22:36] <jamster545> oops
[22:36] <messiah> hi, hello
[22:36] <artie> moin moin
[22:36] <jamster545> i meant remove the name from the list
[22:36] <messiah> can i use Skype at Kubuntun? i don't find anything at the PAcket manager
[22:37] <jamster545> messiah: try installing WINE anduse it to run Skype
[22:37] <artie> can I hide the programs in the menu but dont remove them?
[22:37] <jpatrick> messiah: just install the deb on their site
[22:37] <jpatrick> jamster545: kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:37] <messiah> !es
[22:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:37] <jamster545> tyvm
[22:38] <jamster545> brb while i try this
[22:38] <artie> can I hide the programms in the start menu but dont remove them?
[22:38] <jthom> Hi. glxconfig tells me "direct rending: No". Any ideas on how to make it say "Yes"? Kubuntu 7.10, using nvidia driver, installed via adept, not Envy.
[22:38] <gauss_> Does anyone here know how to use k3b to burn an audio CD so that there are no delays between tracks?
[22:38] <artie> can someone help me?
[22:39] <jthom> Oh, and not using compiz (not even installed)
[22:40] <jamster545> jpatrick: what is that paste thingy on the Ubuntu site so i can show you my menu.lst file?
[22:41] <romunov> artie: at the first glance, i can't find any option that would suit your need, sorry
[22:42] <jpatrick> !paste | jamster545
[22:42] <ubotu> jamster545: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:42] <jamster545> ty ubotu
[22:44] <jamster545> jpatrick: please tell me which one to keep. the pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49362/
[22:44] <jpatrick> jamster545: depends, what does 'uname -r' give
[22:45] <jpatrick> jamster545: that's the one you're using right now
[22:45] <jamster545> ummm i dont know. i think the one at the top of the menu.lst which i pasted for you (as a .txt file) is the right one but please look
[22:45] <jamster545> no it isnt
[22:45] <jamster545> i used the middle one
[22:46] <jamster545> i believe it is the one you said you used
[22:47] <jamster545> jpatrick: thanks for the help, i think i am using a slightly older kernel. 2.60.20-16 is the one i am using
[22:47] <jpatrick> jamster545: looks like it
[22:47] <jamster545> i will boot te 2.60.22-14 like you are using
[22:48] <jamster545> i have it
[22:54] <tolecnal> Hello there. I was wondering what package i kubuntu 7.10 was used for the the on screen gui for the multimedia buttons on my laptop/keyboard by default? I thought it might be lineak(d), but that isn't even installed. Thanks in advance
[22:56] <jthom> tolecnal: I haven't used linEAK but I do see it in the list of available software in Adept Manager.  Have you tried installing it?
[22:56] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: I use keytouch
[22:57] <artie> Can I hide the buttonsin the Apllication Menu?
[22:57] <sp1nn> I neeed help installing compiz fusion on my kubuntu can anyone help me?
[22:57] <tolecnal> jthom: the thing is, the special keys on keyboard works perfectly out of the box. I was just curious what package is used to intercept the keypresses. I used lineakd and klineakconfig under debian for the same purpose, but I see that this isn't used here
[22:57] <Linux_Galore> !ompiz
[22:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ompiz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <Linux_Galore> !compiz
[22:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:58] <artie> Can I hide the buttons in the Apllication Menu?
[22:58] <alesan> hi, do you have an idea how can I access a microsoft VPN??
[22:58] <alesan> so that I can join the network in the office.
[22:58] <artie> Can I hide the buttons in the Apllication Menu?
[22:58] <Linux_Galore> I would wait for Hardie and KDE 4's release before stuffing around with compiz
[22:58] <jthom> tolecnal: okay, I'm clueless then, I'll duck and let someone else have a go
[22:58] <artie> Can I hide the buttons in the Apllication Menu?
[22:58] <tolecnal> jthom: thanks anyway :)
[22:59] <sp1nn> thx
[22:59] <artie> Can I hide the buttons in the Apllication Menu?
[22:59] <tolecnal> artie: there is no need to endlessly repeat your question. if someone knows, they'll tell you
[23:00] <artie> Okay, thx
[23:00] <Linux_Galore> artie: what application menu
[23:00] <artie> the start menu
[23:02] <artie> k-menu
[23:02] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: hmmm, it's not keytouch either. it's something that installed by default in 7.10 that takes care of the multimedia buttons on this keyboard, and I'm curious as to which program it is. Not being keytocuh, nor lineak
[23:02] <Linux_Galore> artie: mouse over to the far left of the start menu then right click -> menu editor
[23:02] <artie> yes but then i just can remove them not hide
[23:02] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: that would be HAL
[23:03] <sp1nn> I have A problem wwhen i type this in ko sole sudo apt-get update it asks me for the password but it doesnt let me write it!!
[23:03] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: its just using defaults
[23:03] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: HAL does the GUI stuff too? *scratches his head*
[23:03] <sp1nn> I have A problem wwhen i type this in ko sole sudo apt-get update it asks me for the password but it doesnt let me write it!!
[23:03] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: no kde has all that built in
[23:04] <sp1nn> Linux_Galore: Do you know howw to solve it?
[23:04] <artie> galore... If i do this, i only can remove the entries, not hide.
[23:05] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: you can tamper with the settings in kcontrol  look in the Region and Accessibility section
[23:05] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: cause my real problem is this; as I said, it works. but whenever I use headphones, the volume isn't being adjusted seeing it uses the master volume instead of adjusting the PCM volume. I'd like to change that, but couldn't figure out where the settings where or what program controlled it
[23:06] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: kmix is for audio
[23:06] <sp1nn> I have A problem wwhen i type this in ko sole sudo apt-get update it asks me for the password but it doesnt let me write it!!
[23:07]  * jessy_james ciao a tutti
[23:07] <sp1nn> I have A problem when i type this in konsole "sudo apt-get update" it asks me for the password but it doesnt let me write it or paste it!!!!
[23:07] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: you should have the kmix icon in your system tray, works the same as the one in windows
[23:07] <sp1nn> any1
[23:07] <sp1nn> ¿
[23:07] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: yes, that I know. But seeing as I have special keys for adjusting this without opening a mixer window, it would be nice to have KDE adjust the PCM volume instead of the master volume. hence the reason I'm looking for the settings for the keys :)
[23:07] <noaXess> !ntfs
[23:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[23:08] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: media keys are not part of the audio setup,  I use keytouch to manage that
[23:10] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: I remember you saying that, but again, seeing as KDE apparently handles this itself out of the box, just not the way I want it when I have headphones connected, it would be nice to fix this by the appropiate settings. Sorry for being a real nit picker
[23:10] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: kde doesnt thats the problem
[23:10] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: its just using defaults
[23:11] <Linux_Galore> thats why you use keytouch that allows you to redefine the media keys
[23:11] <khelll> how shall i know if my laptop bluetooth is working?
[23:12] <Linux_Galore> !keytouch
[23:13] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[23:14] <ronnie_> hi all, any know where I can find a default install for (Snack) a program needed by (amsn), ?
[23:14] <tolecnal> hmmm, keytouch also adjusts the _master_ volume instead of the PCM volume.. i'm just as far :/
[23:14] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: anyway, thanks for your time and effort
[23:15] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: you can define what keytouch adjusts in it config file
[23:16] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: I'll just write two small bash scripts, that uses amixer and adjust the PCM volume instead of the master volume and have keytouch trigger those scripts respectivly on the key presses
[23:17] <markit_2> hi, I've installed flashplugin-nonfree, but if I visit youtube site with firefox, it complains that the plugin has not been installed... any idea?
[23:17] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: or use dcop ie dcop kmix Mixer0
[23:18] <markit_2> (btw, firefox 3.0beta1)
[23:18] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: dcop allows you command line access the kde apps
[23:18] <tolecnal> markit_2: the plugin version used when writing the installer script has changed after release, thus the MD5 checksum fails. you need to install it manually
[23:18] <Linux_Galore> s/the/to/
[23:19] <markit_2> fabolous :( any howto about it?
[23:19] <tolecnal> markit_2: wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[23:19] <tolecnal> markit_2: tar zxf install_flash_player_9_linux
[23:19] <markit_2> btw, I've kubuntu 8.04 and doing with aptitude install shows no error in the console
[23:19] <tolecnal> markit_2: cd install_flash_player_9
[23:20] <tolecnal> markit_2: sudo ./flashplayer_installer
[23:20] <tolecnal> markit_2: answer the questions, and done :)
[23:21] <markit_2> tolecnal: thanks a lot
[23:22] <tolecnal> the lib location btw is /usr/lib/firefox, not /usr/lib/mozilla
[23:22] <ronnie_> any here use amsn?, for kubuntu 7.10, is the Snack program needed in the software choices?
[23:22] <Linux_Galore> ronnie_: why dont you just use pidgin/gaim
[23:23] <ronnie_> I couldnt find a web cam option on it
[23:23] <Linux_Galore> lol @ webcams
[23:24] <markit_2> tolecnal: I've 3 furefox dir, lol.. firefox, furefix-3-0-3 and firefox-plugin... maybe the latter is better
[23:24] <Linux_Galore> I wonder if skype has the webcam stuff working yet
[23:24] <khelll> how shall i know if my laptop bluetooth is working?
[23:25] <markit_2> sorry, firefox-addon, so is wrong
[23:29] <tolecnal> hmmm, even when I define a custom keyboard with keytouch, KDE still takes priority
[23:29] <batis610> i intalled apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, mysql-server, and when i try to open a file with an index.php firefox asks to download....what's wrong?
[23:30] <ardchoille> batis610: Did you start the apache server?
[23:30] <ardchoille> !lamp
[23:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[23:31] <Thingus> So, I need a mencoder script that will convert all of my videos to standard Xvid/MP3 600xVAR, variable bitrate, NTSC.
[23:31] <Thingus> That way I can back everything up and it will work.
[23:31] <tolecnal> argh!
[23:33] <jamster545> hello
[23:34]  * jamster545 needs help saving and then exiting a file being edited in NANO through Konsole
[23:35] <Linux_Galore> Linux Apache MySQL Perl/PHP/Python
[23:35] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: I found an option under keytouch that makes it use PCM, but even applying that didn't work :/
[23:35] <batis610> ardchoille: yes
[23:35] <ardchoille> batis610: Restart firefox and try again
[23:35] <voonte> I just finished installing Kubuntu (Hardy) and it works great so far.
[23:36] <jamster545> helpz me
[23:36] <voonte> I have one question. Is the recommended way to install KDE4 (latest trunk) in Kubuntu as written on http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Kubuntu_and_Debian ?
[23:36]  * jamster545 needs to know how to save and exit a file he is editing in NANO through Konsole
[23:37] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: Im looking at dcop for kmix and there is no PCM option
[23:37] <batis610> ardchoille: no change
[23:37] <voonte> jamster545: Ctrl+X ?
[23:37] <jamster545> OH!
[23:37] <jamster545> voonte: TYVFM!!!!!
[23:38] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: type dcop kmix Mixer0  then hit [TAB] and you will see what I mean
[23:38] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: I'm thinking about keytouch, under preferences; you have an option there to change the mixer channel it's supposed to change/alter
[23:38] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: keytouch is just a front end to dcop really
[23:39] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: and yes, I can see that PCM isn't listed there.
[23:39] <ardchoille> batis610: There are testing and troubleshooting instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[23:41] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: but what really puzzles me, is the fact that when I specify keytouch to run a manual command, in this case; 'amixer -c 0 set PCM 2dB-' it doesn't even run when the key is pressed
[23:41] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: and this is on a keybourd which has manually been edited using 'keytouch-editor'
[23:42] <tung> Anyone know how to view flash in opera?
[23:42] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: you would believe that the command would be run, but it isn't
[23:42] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: and yes, the command has been tested manually from a console and has been found working
[23:42] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: seems like KDE still takes care of the buttons, and disregards keytouch
[23:42] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: and yes, keytouchd is running :)
[23:44] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: make sure keytouchd is running
[23:44] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: keytouch uses a daemon to capture the input
[23:44] <tolecnal> Linux_Galore: as I said, I made sure it was running :)
[23:45] <pros922> Question: For some reason I was banned from #ubuntu. Any way to find out why?
[23:46] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: I found you can use kcontrol to initiate dcop command via the keyboard, ie Regional & Access -> Input Actions
[23:47] <intelikey> pros922 /info channel  ?
[23:47] <intelikey> oh sorry.  may only work for staff
[23:47] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: use different keys to adjust the PCM setting
[23:48] <pros922> ty
[23:48] <intelikey> pros922 /j #ubuntu-opps  and ask ?
[23:48] <pros922> ty
[23:48] <Linux_Galore> tolecnal: ie ctrl Volume +   etc
[23:54] <LimCore>  how to pimp up my amd64/nvidia ubuntu 64bit with beryl/etc?
[23:55] <sourcemaker> !beryl
[23:55] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[23:56] <ardchoille> !comiz
[23:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comiz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:56] <ardchoille> Maybe I should have done !spell_checker, lol
[23:56] <ardchoille> !compiz
[23:56] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:59] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: is it a good idea... to change the value vm.swappiness=20 to vm.swappiness=5 in /etc/sysctl.conf? Have a read... that this will increase the performance of kubuntu?


[14:29] <jamespage> o/
[14:30] <sarnold> good morning
[14:32] <ddstreet> o/
[14:33] <doko> gi
[14:33] <doko> hi
[14:36] <doko> who's running the meeting?
[14:37] <doko> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
[14:37] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 16 14:37:16 2020 UTC.  The chair is doko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[14:37] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[14:37] <doko> cpaelzer, didrocks ?
[14:37] <doko> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:37] <cpaelzer> arr
[14:37] <cpaelzer> I'm here
[14:37] <cpaelzer> the new time isn't in my muscle memory yet
[14:38] <cpaelzer> sarnold: ddstreet: didrocks: doko: joeubuntu: jamespage - starting now ...
[14:38] <doko> I don't know about any open items from last week ...
[14:38] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
[14:38] <meetingology> cpaelzer: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
[14:38] <cpaelzer> I don't know of any old items either
[14:39] <doko> well, then go ahead chairing ...
[14:39] <cpaelzer> ah ok, np
[14:39] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[14:39] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:40] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:40] <cpaelzer> the non propsoed has no new content at all
[14:40] <cpaelzer> the proposed one has some things around libio-async-perl
[14:40] <cpaelzer> those I ahven't seen before
[14:40] <cpaelzer> doko: do you happen to know who of the +1 people looks at perl atm?
[14:41] <cpaelzer> I did a two weeks ago, but have lost who does so right now
[14:41] <cpaelzer> jamespage: kazoo and dependencies was on you IIRC - any updates on that fron since last time?
[14:41] <doko> sorry, no idea.
[14:42] <cpaelzer> the other new but is u-boot -> libubootenv
[14:42] <cpaelzer> sounds like a package split to me
[14:42] <jamespage> cpaelzer: lemme check
[14:42] <jamespage> I thought that had been done - might be stuck in proposed
[14:42] <doko> I'll look at the perl ones again
[14:42] <cpaelzer> ok, as long as it is with you we are ok
[14:42] <cpaelzer> thanks doko
[14:42] <cpaelzer> waveform: hey u-boot is from you
[14:43] <cpaelzer> waveform: is the new dependency to libubootenv known/expected?
[14:43] <cpaelzer> and if so who will work on MIR'ing it?
[14:43] <waveform> cpaelzer, ah - sorry, didn't realize that required a separate MIR. I can take that
[14:43] <cpaelzer> thanks waveform
[14:44] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[14:45] <cpaelzer> this will be quick - no unassigned ones (just jeepeney on security) and no update on the others
[14:45] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:45] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:45] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[14:45] <cpaelzer> any differnt comment/topic to discuss or task to assign?
[14:46] <jamespage> kazoo should come up for demotion now - minor oversight on the last upload
[14:46] <cpaelzer> perfect
[14:46] <jamespage> but nothing else from me
[14:46] <cpaelzer> thanks jamespage
[14:46] <didrocks> (oopss, sorry was in a meeting)
[14:46] <cpaelzer> np, we started late
[14:46] <didrocks> (my network dropped)
[14:46] <cpaelzer> anything to add before we close didrocks?
[14:47] <didrocks> if there was nothing assigned to me, nothing :)
[14:47] <cpaelzer> nothing assigned today
[14:47] <cpaelzer> you are good
[14:47] <didrocks> \o/
[14:47] <cpaelzer> counting out to 19 then
[14:47] <cpaelzer> 2
[14:47] <cpaelzer> 3
[14:47] <cpaelzer> 5
[14:47] <cpaelzer> 7
[14:47] <cpaelzer> 13
[14:47] <cpaelzer> 17
[14:47] <cpaelzer> 19
[14:47] <cpaelzer> done
[14:47] <sarnold> :D
[14:47] <cpaelzer> doko:  you have to end as you started it
[14:47] <didrocks> thx cpaelzer
[14:47] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[14:47] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[14:48] <doko> #endmeeting
[14:48] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 16 14:48:03 2020 UTC.
[14:48] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-06-16-14.37.moin.txt
[14:48] <cpaelzer> you've got the power
[14:48] <cpaelzer> thanks doko
[22:17] <Bashing-om> popey: Excuse me for an interruption. for Ubuntu News Letter can you confirm that the info from http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ remains valid ?


[01:13] <mhall119> oh the irony of haters getting hated on
[02:19] <jono> mhall119, hey
[02:29] <mhall119> hey
[02:29] <mhall119> sorry, was buried in the accomplishments code
[02:29] <mhall119> jono: ^^
[02:29] <mhall119> didn't notice the ping
[03:04] <jono> mhall119, np :-)
[03:04] <jono> I am back now
[03:05] <jono> about to make a video about how to create accomplishments
[03:22] <pangolin> jono: question about the accomplishments, is there or will there be a way for the application to know that you have already filed your first bug? or will it wait for the first bug filed since installation of the application?
[03:23] <jono> pangolin, no, it will know about previously achieved things
[03:23] <jono> so when you run it for the first time you will get a bunch of trophies
[03:23] <jono> for things you have already done
[03:23] <pangolin> cool.
[03:23] <jono> :-)
[03:23] <pangolin> watching the video now :)
[03:23] <jono> cool!
[03:23] <pangolin> most recent one that is
[03:23] <jono> :-)
[03:23] <akgraner> jono - ping me tomorrow when you have a few mins  - - I has info for you
[03:23] <akgraner> :-)
[03:24] <cjohnston> jono: we need a community web team accomplishment when you have 5 commits to either summit or LTP
[03:24] <mhall119> cjohnston: write one
[03:24] <cjohnston> I have a paper to write instead
[03:24] <pangolin> heh, I should have watched before asking. The video answers my question early on
[03:24]  * akgraner is finding my pillow now  - talk to you all tomorrow.
[03:25] <mhall119> cjohnston: stop being responsible
[03:25] <cjohnston> i know.. it sucks
[03:25] <mhall119> that's how we lost nigelb
[03:25] <cjohnston> and i only have 1 day left this week.. Work tomorrow, wednesday, thursday and friday
[03:25] <jono> cjohnston, aha
[03:25] <cjohnston> mhall119: lost who?
[03:25] <jono> the point is accomplishments are not about X number of contributions
[03:25] <jono> they can be abused
[03:25] <nigelb> haha
[03:26] <nigelb> mhall119: <3
[03:26] <cjohnston> jono: not every 5, after 5
[03:26] <jono> it should be more about "First commit" "First bug fix" "Joining the dev team" etc
[03:26] <mhall119> nigelb: :)
[03:26] <jono> cjohnston, that can still be abused
[03:26] <nigelb> mhall119: Have you seen this http://mathiasbynens.be/demo/css-without-html
[03:26] <jono> accomplishments are about new experiences
[03:26] <jono> cjohnston, or new roles
[03:26] <pangolin> mhall119: if you want to get nigelb back I know of a 100% fool proof way.
[03:26] <jono> so first commit, first fix, joining the team, first merge etc
[03:26] <jono> because each of those things requires quality work
[03:26] <mhall119> nigelb: I don't see anything
[03:27] <cjohnston> jono: I see abuse that way.. only requiring one thing to get an accomplishment.. same as joining LP teams
[03:27] <mhall119> pangolin: what's what?
[03:27] <pangolin> mhall119 jono HIRE HIM!
[03:27] <cjohnston> lol
[03:27] <jono> cjohnston, right, so accomplishments will be for teams that require approval
[03:27] <mhall119> pangolin: that's how they lost me :)
[03:27] <jono> as opposed to arbitrary joining
[03:27] <jono> and we are still going to need to figure out what are good and bad accomplishments
[03:27] <pangolin> mhall119: oh, never mind then
[03:27] <jono> I am personally wanting to steer away from the 10 of this 50 of that type things
[03:28] <cjohnston> I guess getting commit access to a community web project would be a good accomplishment
[03:28] <nigelb> mhall119: exactly. empty source with content.
[03:28] <cjohnston> I'm just not the give awards to all the players kinda guy.
[03:29] <mhall119> accomplishments aren't for winning, they're for doing
[03:30] <cjohnston> awards arent for winning anymore either
[03:30] <mhall119> this isn't political cjohnston
[03:31] <jono> cjohnston, totally commit access is cool
[03:32] <jono> trophies are more of a reflecting of things that people have done
[03:32] <jono> and a cool way to discover other things
[03:39] <jono> mhall119, just updated ubuntu-community-accomplishments btw if you were looking at it
[03:41] <jono> brb, recording my tutorial vid
[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[07:53] <benonsoftware> Hello dholbach
[07:53] <czajkowski> Aloha
[07:55] <dholbach> hey :)
[08:28] <dholbach> ciao Gwaihir
[08:29] <dholbach> Gwaihir, do you know who's organising the UGJ event in Italy?
[08:29] <dholbach> ah, ok - it's xdatap1
[08:29] <dholbach> need to have a chat with him :)
[08:29] <Gwaihir> guten morgen dholbach!
[08:29] <dholbach> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-it/1546/detail/
[08:29] <dholbach> come stai?
[08:29] <dholbach> cosa fai?
[08:30] <Gwaihir> everything good here, what about you?
[08:30] <jokerdino> hey community, where should i looking for bug patches?
[08:30] <Gwaihir> :)
[08:30] <Gwaihir> yeah, paolo is organizing that event, there will be also Andrea Grandi and Marco Trevisan
[08:30] <jokerdino> i have attempted at fixing bug 936403
[08:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 936403 in software-center "There is a typo in Ubuntu Software Center strings. (DVD drive)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936403
[08:30] <dholbach> Gwaihir, everything good here as well - I almost thought we'd approach spring soon, but today it started snowing again - and snowing lots
[08:31] <dholbach> Gwaihir, cool, I'll have a chat with them
[08:31] <dholbach> jokerdino, if you attach patches, subscribe the ubuntu-sponsors team to the bug
[08:32] <jokerdino> or is it reviewers?
[08:32] <dholbach> jokerdino, and if you patch the .pot file, try to find the other occurrence of the string in the source code too
[08:32] <dholbach> .pot files are auto-generated
[08:32] <jokerdino> oh ok.
[08:33] <dholbach> ie:    grep -r "connected.DVD" .
[08:34] <jokerdino> i am grepping it.
[08:34] <dholbach> ah, ../softwarecenter/hw.py:59
[08:36] <jussi> Bah, barcelona at this time is so expensive... anyone live there that would like  paying guest for a few days?
[08:37] <dholbach> couchsurfing?
[08:38] <jussi> yeah, had a look, most of the good places seem to be not there atm.. Ill look again thanks.
[08:49] <czajkowski> jussi: have a look on venere.com or hotels.com some very good cheap deals
[08:50] <jussi> czajkowski: ok
[08:50] <jussi> czajkowski: thanks - Id not heard of venere
[08:51] <czajkowski> use venere the whole time very cheap deals plus you can gain discount by singing up and earning rewards
[08:54] <bkerensa> http://wunderkit.uservoice.com/forums/142310-wunderkit/suggestions/2614596-release-a-wunderkit-app-for-ubuntu
[08:55] <jussi> what is wunderkit?
[08:56] <bkerensa> it is Wunderlist plus some other excellent tools to make life simpler
[08:56] <bkerensa> :D
[08:57] <bkerensa> Wunderlist is/was available in USC
[09:14] <jussi> czajkowski: just booked from venere! thanks a million!
[09:15] <czajkowski> np
[10:21] <bkerensa> dholbach: valorie of Ubuntu Women has been involved in GSoC
[10:21] <bkerensa> I believe she participated last year on behalf of KDE
[10:22] <dholbach> bkerensa, nice
[10:22] <dholbach> I hope some discussion on the list is going to happen and we see some who would be willing to take it on
[10:22] <jokerdino> hey dholbach, so i have edited the py file. what should i do next?
[10:23] <dholbach> jokerdino, generate a diff again and attach it
[10:23] <dholbach> and subscribe the 'ubuntu-sponsors' team
[10:23] <jokerdino> ok thanks!
[10:24] <dholbach> :)
[10:40] <jokerdino> dholbach: the wiki page about ubuntu-sponsors sounds like they review packages, not patches.
[10:41] <jokerdino> may be the ubuntu-reviewers? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers
[10:48] <jokerdino> i will be back after dinner.
[10:58] <dholbach> no no, it's the right team
[11:09] <jussi> sigh. sad the new sound theme is horrible :/
[11:09] <cjohnston> mornin
[11:09] <jussi> morning czajkowski
[11:09] <jussi> bah
[11:09] <jussi> cjohnston:
[11:09] <cjohnston> jussi:
[11:10] <jussi> sorry Laura :/
[11:10] <cjohnston> that was a nice picture you posted the other day with your wife and baby
[11:10] <czajkowski> next time I wont show you niace sites on the internet :p
[11:12] <jussi> cjohnston: thanks! yeah, I agree - was a good pic
[11:12] <jussi> czajkowski: :(
[11:12] <cjohnston> I didn't say good.. I mean.. it did have you in it :-)
[11:15] <jussi> aww :(
[11:19] <cjohnston> :-P
[11:20] <MrChrisDruif> O_O ;-)
[11:30] <dholbach> huats, let's blog about d-a-t soon :)
[11:33] <jussi> d-a-t?
[11:33] <dholbach> developer advisory team
[11:36] <jussi> oh. :)
[14:38] <jcastro> heya popey
[14:38] <jcastro> is the rc6 stuff in precise ootb?
[14:39] <nigelb> Morning jcastro!
[14:40] <jcastro> morning nigels!
[14:40] <nigelb> jcastro: Is there an official way to request a speaker from Canonical for an event?
[14:40] <jcastro> no clue
[14:40] <jcastro> Ask the person directly maybe?
[14:40] <nigelb> Hrm.
[14:41] <nigelb> There's a sysadmin event in India and I was wondering if someone from Canonical could talk about Juju.
[14:41] <nigelb> Not a sales person, but someone tech.
[14:41] <jcastro> we have koolhead17
[14:41] <jcastro> but he's quite young
[14:41] <nigelb> Aha, I know him.
[14:41] <nigelb> Same friends circle, etc.
[14:42] <nigelb> Also, only about 5 hours away  by train. I'll strong-arm him :D
[14:42] <popey> yes jcastro
[14:42] <popey> works great on my x220
[14:43] <czajkowski> nigelb: asking them directly has proven the best way tbh
[14:43] <jcastro> yes as in, it's on?
[14:43] <jcastro> man, my think went from like 21 watts to 11 watts after upgrades today
[14:43] <nigelb> czajkowski: Thanks :) Will do.
[14:43] <czajkowski> they'll know their availability best
[14:52] <popey> jcastro: yes, rc6 is on by default
[14:53] <cprofitt> popey: that is good to hear
[14:55] <popey> mine dropped to 8W
[14:55]  * mhall119 dist-upgrades and hopes for longer battery life
[14:56] <popey> DO IT!
[14:56] <mhall119> I AM!
[14:56] <popey> GOOD!
[14:56] <mhall119> I KNOW!
[14:58] <jcastro> popey: seriously I was at like 21 watts
[14:59] <jcastro> now I am on 11.
[14:59] <jcastro> man, more like 10.1!
[15:01] <mhall119> jcastro: so what you're saying is that it doesn't go all the way to 11?
[15:01] <jcastro> which is fine by me
[15:02]  * mhall119 is currently at ~20W
[15:11] <balloons> makes me wonder what the chromebook will be at. i think it was around 6 to 8
[15:13] <jcastro> Daviey: around?
[15:15] <Daviey> jcastro: yah
[15:16] <Pendulum> What's the character limit for UDS applications these days?
[15:17] <cjohnston> 2k iirc
[15:18] <jokerdino> #j #ubuntu-unity
[15:18] <jokerdino> oops sorry. my mistake.
[15:18] <cjohnston> Pendulum: 1k
[15:18] <cjohnston> sorry
[15:19] <Pendulum> cjohnston: it went back down?
[15:19] <Pendulum> (I thought it'd been increased a year ago)
[15:19] <cjohnston> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/summit/sponsor/models.py#L36
[15:19] <cjohnston> I thought it did as well..
[15:21] <Pendulum> :(
[15:21] <cjohnston> hrm.. Pendulum it may be 3k.. I'm not sure... forms.py is 3k.. give me a few
[15:21] <Pendulum> ta
[15:28] <nigelb> looks like cjohnston is going to have to fix that :D
[15:53] <jcastro> bah, meeting in 10?
[15:53] <jcastro> dholbach: is it me or didn't we just have a bunch of meetings?
[15:53] <dholbach> jcastro, demo day, irc meeting, hangout, ugj meeting
[15:53] <jcastro> ugh
[15:57] <snap-l> and a meeting to discuss the upcoming meetings. ;)
[15:58] <mhall119> and discussions about  having discussions
[15:59] <jono> howdy all
[15:59] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:00] <dholbach> jono, I think balloons should go first, if we don't want to listen to him under anesthetics
[16:00] <jono> haha
[16:00] <jono> ok, dholbach, jcastro, balloons, dpm, mhall119.....
[16:00] <jono> team meeting!
[16:01] <jono> #startmeeting
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[16:01] <jono> Good morning, afternoon, evening...Ubuntu fans!
[16:01] <jono> and today we present the round-tables of a beautiful group of people
[16:02] <jono> men with charm, capability and outright perfection
[16:02] <jono> ...and me :-)
[16:02] <dholbach> jcastro, does he mean us ^?
[16:02] <jono> lol
[16:02] <jono> alright, first up...
[16:02] <jono> the man...the legend...the tester...balloons!
[16:02] <dpm> \o/
[16:03] <jono> balloons, yoo hoo!
[16:03] <balloons> hehe.. i'll be quick here
[16:05] <balloons> last week for me involved prepping for global jam, checking out checkbox and doing more work on the call for testing process
[16:05] <balloons> in addition i started a critical applications list to target for testing and other purposes
[16:06] <balloons> finally we had unity 5.4 testing, lucid iso testing and several other testing initiatives going on for feature freeze
[16:06] <balloons> thanks much for all who tested and help test last week
[16:06] <jono> :-)
[16:07] <balloons> that's all from me
[16:07] <jono> thanks balloons
[16:07] <jono> any questions for balloons?
[16:08] <jono> alrighty
[16:08] <jono> next up...the man with the plan...dpm!
[16:08] <dpm> hey
[16:08] <balloons> if anyone has ideas on how to do manual testing or reach more people i'm always open
[16:08] <dholbach> balloons, good luck with the dentist :)
[16:08] <balloons> going in now.. gl
[16:09] <dpm> allright, have fun :)
[16:09] <jono> balloons, enjoy!
[16:09] <dpm> right, here I go...
[16:09] <dpm> - Translations meeting - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Meetings/2012-02-15
[16:09] <dpm> - Helped davidpitkin with code changes on developer.ubuntu.com to change the order of featured apps on the front page. Reviewed merge proposal, fixed it and tested it
[16:10] <dpm> - Set up a throwaway server on the cloud to test the developer.ubuntu.com changes on a live site
[16:10] <dpm> - Followed up with pleia2 on a Fridge post category for posts that go on the Planet, rather than everything being syndicated automatically. Thanks Lyz for setting that up!
[16:10] <dpm> - Worked with TLE to set up a server for the Ubuntu docs localizer tool he'S been working on. Demoed it to the Canonical Community folks on http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[16:10] <dpm> - Helped stgraber with Pastebinit translations: spreading the word out and enabling translations in Launchpad (using a feature which now allows universe translations in LP, previously only main packages were translatable)
[16:11] <dpm> - Sent Ubuntu Global Jam reminder to all Loco teams in Europe
[16:11] <dpm> - Helped dholbach a bit with developer stats by going through some upload entries output by his script - sorry I couldn't get through more :/
[16:11] <dholbach> dpm, no worries - thanks in any case for the help!
[16:11] <dholbach> big hugs :)
[16:11] <dpm> :)
[16:11] <dpm> so that was me
[16:12] <dpm> any questions?
[16:12] <jono> dpm, the Ubuntu docs localizer tool is awesome, you should screencast and blog it
[16:12] <jono> that was a cool demo on Fri
[16:13] <dpm> yeah, that's a good idea. I'll have a chat with TLE about it and see if I come up with a nice screencast
[16:13] <jono> cool
[16:13] <jono> any questions for dpm?
[16:13] <jono> next up...the man, the myth, the headphones...dholbach!
[16:14] <dholbach>  - Dev Stats: lots of work put into getting stats on track.
[16:14] <dholbach> (too much of it if you ask me :-))
[16:14] <dholbach>  - Sponsoring: set up March Patch Pilot schedule.
[16:14] <dholbach>  - Dev News: got another update out the door together with bkerensa - thanks again!
[16:14] <dholbach>  - Developer Advisory Team: blogged about it. I hope huats and I can welcome new contributors next week in our call.
[16:15] <dholbach>  - Outreach: got introduced to some developers in India by Bhavani Shankar. They are interested in joining - some followup discussions.
[16:15] <dholbach>  - UGJ: interviewed the Italian team about their event and blogged it.
[16:15] <dholbach>  - SoC: some follow-up, trying to help some interested candidates in becoming contacts for Ubuntu as a mentoring organisation.
[16:15] <dholbach>  - small bits and pieces.
[16:15] <dholbach> That's been it.
[16:15] <jono> dholbach, what is the current status of the dev stats?
[16:16] <jono> are we finally done now? ;-)
[16:16] <dholbach> not done, but in much better shape
[16:16] <dholbach> I'll give you the details later on
[16:16] <jono> dholbach, when will we be done?
[16:16] <dholbach> there's some statistics we recently talked about I still have to add and probably need an idea or two from you
[16:17] <dholbach> also there's a number (not too many) of people on the lists which very likely have never contributed
[16:17] <jono> so what kind of ETA are thinking?
[16:17] <dholbach> but I want to still review the cases to be sure
[16:17] <dholbach> (it won't change things much)
[16:17] <dholbach> most of it is already there
[16:18] <jono> ok, we can discuss it in our call
[16:18] <dholbach> let's talk in our call in 1h about how important you think the remaining bits and pieces are
[16:18] <dholbach> yes
[16:18] <jono> I want to nail down a completition data
[16:18] <jono> completion
[16:18] <jono> how has the response to the Advistory Team post been?
[16:18] <dholbach> some likes, but noone offered help yet
[16:18] <dholbach> or you mean the actual outreach huats and I did?
[16:19] <jono> I think we are going to need to be a bit more pro-active in finding volunteers
[16:19] <jono> I mean the post on planet
[16:19] <jono> I thought it was a cool post
[16:19] <dholbach> thanks
[16:19] <dholbach> huats will blog about it too this week
[16:19] <huats> jono: I will
[16:19] <huats> :)
[16:19] <dholbach> so let's see how much interest we get :)
[16:19] <jono> I think we are going to need to ping people directly and invite them to participate
[16:19] <jono> I suspect a general post will not encourage people enough to join
[16:19] <jono> huats, thanks for helping with this effort :-)
[16:19] <jono> it is such valuable work :-)
[16:20] <dholbach> also I'll mail the devel/motu list later on
[16:20] <jono> alrighty, any more questions for dholbach?
[16:20] <jono> next up...the Murdoch of the C-Team.....jcastro!
[16:21] <jcastro> hi!
[16:21] <jono> jcastro, btw, listening to Mariner
[16:21] <jono> it just came on as we moved to you :-)
[16:21] <jono> fate!
[16:21] <jcastro> heh
[16:21] <jcastro> ok so .... here we go
[16:21] <jcastro> it was a holiday last week
[16:21] <jcastro> err, yesterday
[16:21] <jcastro> so I am already behind:
[16:21] <jcastro> (from all that sitting on the beach)
[16:22] <jcastro> POSSCON charm school and talk are on, I'll be there with Marco.
[16:22] <mhall119> it was nice beach weather
[16:22] <jcastro> Some progress on the charm schools for LISA and OSCON
[16:23] <jcastro> work with Cezz on some marketing things for juju.
[16:23] <jcastro> but that's been mostly handed off to Nick BArcet, who volunteered to help
[16:23] <jcastro> so we'll have nice handouts and stuff for attendees
[16:23] <jcastro> I took over lp:juju/docs, I need to get that in shape in order to get some WIs out of the way
[16:23] <jcastro> unfortunately our docs story isn't looking so awesome right now
[16:24] <jcastro> TODO for this week:
[16:24] <mhall119> that seems to be the case everywhere
[16:24] <jcastro> https://trello.com/board/juju-growth/4ec1696da3f94bd2ea5b2b01
[16:24] <jcastro> as you can see I am totally screwed
[16:24] <jcastro> I am going to be in head-down-skating-hard mode all week.
[16:24] <jcastro> other than most of these tasks I owe mhall some TODOs for the community to do for juju tthings for UGJ
[16:24] <jcastro> and that's basically it.
[16:25] <jcastro> questions?
[16:25] <jcastro> oh, we have a juju webinar march 8, be there or be square
[16:25] <jcastro> look for it in your favorite issue of UWN!
[16:25] <jono> any questions for jcastro?
[16:25] <jcastro> (48 people already signed up!)
[16:25] <jcastro> oh, and some server team blog business which you'll see me blog about later
[16:26] <jcastro> but it's kind of a surprise. (mwahaah)
[16:26] <mhall119> blogging about a blog?
[16:26] <jcastro> >_>
[16:26] <jono> ok
[16:26] <jono> next up...a man no one would dare to criticize...mhall119!
[16:27] <jcastro> hah
[16:27] <mhall119> lol
[16:27] <mhall119> shorter list that usual this time
[16:27] <mhall119>  - Reached out to Asian loco teams, got a few responses and a couple of new events, need to follow up again with the rest
[16:27] <jono> "shorter list that usual this time" - code for "I didn't write me list up in time"
[16:27] <jono> :-)
[16:28]  * mhall119 never writes his list
[16:28] <jono> guys, you should all prepare your lists
[16:28] <mhall119>  - Created a bunch of bugs for Unity integration with upstreams
[16:28] <jono> the goal of these meetings is a comprehensive summary of your weeks
[16:28] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, dpm, balloons, mhall119 ^
[16:28]  * mhall119 goes through his GTG closed items
[16:29] <mhall119>  - Worked with the ARB to define lens/scope packing requirements
[16:29] <mhall119>  - Started a Quickly template for writing Singlet lenses (packing the template for 12.04 with didrocks quite literally as we speak)(
[16:30] <mhall119>  - Posted current list of UGJ target activities to the wiki (please add items your teams would like worked on so we can post it on LTP)
[16:30] <mhall119>  - Fixed bugs in LTP for participating events counter (waiting deployment)
[16:31] <mhall119>  - General Lens/Scope developer shepharding
[16:31] <mhall119> any questions for me?
[16:32] <dpm> oh, I don't have a question, but I do have an item I forgot, which might be interesting to mhall119 as well:
[16:32] <dpm> - Talked to xdatap1 about a Quickly Qml template he had been working on - he just finished a first version on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly/QtQuickApplication
[16:33] <dpm> so if anyone wants to try, give it a go!
[16:33] <jono> dpm, awesome
[16:33] <jcastro> oooh
[16:33] <jono> great to see the range of templates in quickly
[16:34] <jono> alrighty
[16:34] <jono> I am up next
[16:34] <jono> (Holiday yesterday, so shorter week)
[16:34] <jono>  * General:
[16:34] <jono>   - Burndown looking good, but needs more attention. Growth has flattened a little. Everyone: please review your items at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html
[16:34] <jono> if everyone could take a look at this this week, that would be great
[16:35] <jono> dpm, dholbach, balloons, mhall119, jcastro - also could you review all the work items for community members related to your blueprints and do a little nagging :-)
[16:35] <dholbach> yes
[16:35] <jono> thanks :-)
[16:35] <jono>  * Developers:
[16:35] <jono>   - Finalizing getting our metrics in shape. This week is all about the growth. :-)
[16:35] <mhall119> jono: since I wasn't on the team last UDS, which blueprints are mine?
[16:35] <jono>  * App Devs:
[16:35] <dpm> yes
[16:35] <jono> mhall119, oh, you and balloons don't need to
[16:35] <dholbach> mhall119, you can have some of mine
[16:35] <jono> lol
[16:36] <mhall119> :P
[16:36] <dholbach> :-P
[16:36] <jono>   - Technical Board meeting to discuss removing the dependency requirement for scopes/lenses in Exras. It is back with the ARB for discussion.
[16:36] <jono> we expect a response from the ARB on Friday
[16:36] <jono>   - Discussing app dev strat with David Pitkin, and requirements around marketing.
[16:36] <jono>  * QA:
[16:36] <cjohnston> mhall119: that means all of them
[16:36] <mhall119> quiet you
[16:36] <jono>   - Getting more the testing in place with Nick's on-demand testing.
[16:36] <jono>   - Standardizing around a manual testing UI for users and back end for developers.
[16:36] <jono>   - Fleshed out a testing vision for 12.10 in delivering tests to users of the development branch.
[16:37] <jono> ...in a nutshell...you have an app indicator that tells you current testing needed, clicking on one installs the PPA for you and loads up checkbox with a set of manual tests for you
[16:37] <jono> this is going to be a goal for 12.10
[16:37] <jono>  * Upstreams:
[16:37] <jono>   - Upstreams target list is looking finalized. Now to focus on the outreach this week.
[16:38] <jono> mhall119 is about to become a upstream machine :-)
[16:38] <jono>   - Discussed d.u.c updates for the education piece of the developer on-ramp. dpm and mhall119 are on it.
[16:38] <jono>  * Juju:
[16:38] <jono>   - Brainstorming and putting in place a series of outreach efforts. This week we are scoping these out.
[16:38] <jono>  * Global Jam:
[16:38] <jono>   - Growing further awareness.
[16:38] <jono>   - Strategic call to put in place further plans for the coming week.
[16:39] <jono> dpm, dholbach, balloons, mhall119, jcastro, bkerensa, czajkowski I forgot to send out the notes, will send them out soon
[16:39] <jono>   - Going to plan an event this week.
[16:39] <jono>  * Ubuntu Accomplishments:
[16:39] <jono>   - Spent a bunch of evenings and all weekend hacking. Having a good time. :-)
[16:39] <jono>   - Trophies are now signed, custom trophies are supported, and I fixed a bunch of bugs.
[16:40] <jono>   - Video demo at: http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/02/21/ubuntu-accomplishments-demo/
[16:40] <jono> I am hoping to kick out a call for testing this week
[16:40] <mhall119> jono: you can make that a UGJ item
[16:40] <jono> if you are on Precise and would like to test, mail me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:40] <jono> mhall119, totally :-)
[16:40] <jono>  * Other:
[16:40] <jono>   - More kernel testing for my weird wireless bug.
[16:40] <jono>   - Some further Precise testing: fresh install on my Accomplishments server to test...filed bugs.
[16:40] <jono>   - Finalized Mark Shuttlewoth keynote at OSCON.
[16:41] <jono>   - Some additional messaging plans around some Canonical work in other teams.
[16:41] <jono>   - Coordinating USC reviews with Joey from OMG.
[16:41] <jono> and that is about it
[16:41] <jono> any questions for me?
[16:42] <jcastro> is mariner still playing?
[16:42] <jcastro> it's a long song.
[16:42] <jono> haha
[16:42] <jono> nope
[16:42] <jono> now is Anata
[16:43] <jono> any topics for discussion?
[16:43] <jono> any general questions?
[16:43] <jono> alrighty then
[16:43] <jono> let's wrap it
[16:43] <jono> thanks everyone!
[16:43] <jono> #endmeeting
[16:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 21 16:43:59 2012 UTC.
[16:44] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-02-21-16.01.moin.txt
[16:44] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-02-21-16.01.html
[16:44] <snap-l> Gojira - Vacuity
[16:44] <jono> snap-l, :-)
[16:44] <snap-l> (via snakenet metal radio)
[16:44] <snap-l> Went to that from Tesla Summer Days
[16:44] <snap-l> talk about spectrum opposites
[16:54] <dholbach> dpm, I didn't realise https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/issue/561/configuration-option-store-translations-in was fixed
[16:55]  * dholbach must have missed a memo
[16:55] <dholbach> apparently it's in precise's version of sphinx
[16:55] <dpm> dholbach, \o/ - it would have been great if the bug tracker there would have sent a notification, at least :/
[16:56] <dpm> I hadn't seen it, either
[16:56] <dholbach> if I get a bit of time again I'll see what we can do about it
[16:56] <dholbach> and finally translate the packaging guide in a sensible way
[16:59] <dpm> cool
[17:00] <jono> dpm, all set?
[17:00] <dpm> jono, yep
[17:01] <jono> dpm, invite sent
[17:31] <jono> dholbach, G+ invite incoming
[17:31] <dholbach> yo yo
[17:38] <jono> dholbach, resent invite
[17:40] <jono> dholbach, you there?
[18:00] <dholbach_> alright my friends - see you tomorrow!
[18:01] <bodhizazen> 'lo M0hi
[18:24] <jcastro> bodhizazen: heya
[18:24] <jcastro> bodhizazen: did someone from the us west coast link up with Lamont for the forums upgrade?
[18:29] <bodhizazen> jcastro: It is in process, was looking for an update myself, was very busy last week.
[18:30] <jcastro> any idea who knows what's going on?
[18:30] <jcastro> technoviking: do you know?
[18:30] <bodhizazen> s-fox , posting a update to the FC mailing list (so I believe)
[18:32] <jcastro> k, holla at me if you need anything
[18:34] <jono> jcastro, ok one sec
[18:34] <bodhizazen> thanks jcastro
[18:36] <jono> jcastro, hangout sent
[18:36] <jcastro> joining
[19:00] <jcastro> technoviking: you have access, GO GO GO GO.
[19:00] <jono> balloons, mind if I push our meeting back by 30 - I need a break
[19:00] <jono> been an insane morning of calls, emails, and pings
[19:01] <balloons> jono, I don't have anything on the calendar for today.. but sure ;-)
[19:01] <jono> balloons, hmm you should have our call now
[19:01] <jono> let me check the invite
[19:01] <jono> ahh looks like you are not in my regular cal event
[19:01] <jono> I will add you so you can see when it moves
[19:01] <balloons> gotcha
[19:01] <balloons> yea.. obviously I figured you would move it
[19:01] <balloons> just didn't know when/where
[19:02] <jcastro> jono: so they called and asked me if I could move my appointment up, so I'll be sliding that up an hour
[19:02] <jono> jcastro, np
[19:05] <s-fox> o/
[19:16] <balloons> jono, so noon pst then for you?
[19:17] <jono> balloons, today I put us in for a call in 13mins
[19:17] <balloons> right.. lol.. let's confuse this a bit more.. are we speaking in 13 mins, or 45 mins?
[19:18] <balloons> i do see the scheduled time now
[19:18] <balloons> ohh. lemme guess
[19:18] <balloons> it was @ 11, and you moved it
[19:18] <balloons> I think i'm caught up now
[19:18] <jono> :-)
[19:18] <jono> 13mins
[19:25] <jcastro> mhall119: heh I love how the ubuntu android thing's voice calling thing totally has buttons on it
[19:25] <jcastro> even though we've said "no buttons on notifications" for about 3 years now, heh.
[19:28] <jono> jcastro, morphing windows dude
[19:28] <jono> they exist
[19:28] <jono> there was just never dev resources to finish them off
[19:28] <jcastro> yeah
[19:28] <jcastro> I just want them like ... now.
[19:31] <jono> balloons, invite sent
[19:32] <balloons> joining up
[19:32] <balloons> hmm
[19:33] <balloons> i'll brb.. rebooting
[19:33] <jono> np
[19:38] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, I :( when I saw that
[20:03] <jono> balloons, you there?
[20:04] <balloons> x blew up.. coming bacj
[20:04] <jono> cool
[20:26] <jono> mhall119, ready when you arew
[20:29] <mhall119> ready
[20:30] <jono> mhall119, sending the invite
[20:37] <jussi> what is going on?!??!!! o.O
[20:38] <jussi> Daniel Holbach  -  22:33  -  Public It looks like even I might get a smart phone at some stage... ;-)
[20:38] <jussi> :P