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[22:35] <Bashing-om> guiverc: This development sneal up on you too ? https://9to5linux.com/lubuntu-devs-announce-the-lubuntu-backports-ppa-with-latest-lxqt-desktop-releases
[22:35] <Bashing-om> sneak*
[22:38] <guiverc> not really (I'm 'testing' it on a x201; though only via normal usage) & I hope you'd see it
[22:39] <guiverc> Simon (tsimonq2) has been mentoring a new team-member (not yet official Lubuntu member) Aaron (arraybolt3) who's been super-busy on it; Simon too of course
[22:40] <Unit193> Just saw an upload of his to Debian.
[22:40] <guiverc> Yeah, I hope to have a 'modern' LXQt there too soon (fewer delta/diffs to our local)
[22:41] <guiverc> We (Lubuntu) got down to a single dev (Dan/kc2bez), I hoped Aaron would up number to 2 devs...  (we increased number by re-adding Simon/tsimonq2 & Thomas/teward both of whom are being Core-devs had write access anyway)
[22:42] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Looks like arraybolt3 has jumped onboard Ubuntu flat foited and both feet first :D
[22:42] <teward> guiverc: fun fact, even if i'm not listed in the lubuntu devs i've always had upload privs ;)
[22:42] <teward> Bashing-om: they did, but they're doing well so far
[22:43] <guiverc> yeah I knew that teward ; sorry I forgot you were in this room otherwise I'd have fudged your tewarrd ref...
[22:43] <teward> ;)
[22:43] <teward> *is everywhere*
[22:43] <teward> *is nowhere*
[22:43] <teward> *laughs evilly*
[22:43] <guiverc> :)
[22:43] <Bashing-om> teward: No wonder - with such good mentorship :D
[22:44] <teward> Bashing-om: true, Simon's been good getting Aaron up to par with the lxqt stuff and helping with the debian side of it too
[22:44] <guiverc> (Aaron will become a Lubuntu member... once we reached the 'sustained' requirement)
[22:44] <teward> (this said, Simon also added me to upload for the stack because likely if aaron doesn't get DM any time soon Simon and I would be sponsoring/uploading)
[22:44] <teward> (to Debian)
[22:44] <teward> (*salts his keyboard*)
[22:45] <teward> (unrelated, i'm also only passively paying attention - my pfSense firewall took a hard-as-hell flop and went "F YOU!" this morning, so i've been rebuilding my network all day >.<)
[22:45] <Bashing-om> Planet: On a different subject - Any takes on why the Planet has not seen any action since 17Jul ?
[22:45] <guiverc> Yippeee
[22:45] <teward> Bashing-om: s/Jul/Jun/ ?
[22:46] <teward> or did you timewarp here from the future :P
[22:46] <guiverc> Nope, I was going to re-confirm that then RT/raise ticket, but I keep not-doing-it as not my highest priority  (noticed maybe 2 weeks back..)
[22:47] <Bashing-om> teward: Ouch yeah - since June ! No idea where my mind set to Jul from :(
[22:47] <guiverc> I can't recall how we've got it fixed before (I think we've had issues twice), but I believe I recall a RT/ticket was used once to get someone wiht access; then again planet is open to just members too I recall
[22:48] <teward> i would also keep in mind IS has been burdened chaotically with the following:
[22:48] <teward> (1) major infra move for archives
[22:48] <teward> (2) post-hack-incident response on multiple Canonical hosted WP sites/blogs
[22:48] <guiverc> yeah ; not really news; they're often heavily-loaded anyway
[22:48] <teward> (3) infra related chaos across the board
[22:49] <guiverc> Bashing-om, we firstly need to check https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main/annotate/head:/config.ini   (line 113 link still works!) - I can do it, not now though
[22:53] <guiverc> Bashing-om, looks to me via content of fridge.ubuntu.com/category/planet/feed/atom/ issue is on fridge; I'll need to login there & check for any misconfiguration; but if I can't see/change anything it'll be IS RT/ticket; but I gotta check wp first
[22:55] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Glad that you have the know how :D
[22:58] <guiverc> not really; to me WP really means wordperfect that this keyboard has a guide to still attached; it's not helpful with ubuntu's wp (wordpress)
[22:59] <guiverc> I'll look & hope I see something, if unsure it's 'help' ticket etc.


[00:35] <Nairolf_> Hi, my computer has suddently switched off. I had enough battery. I don't understand why he did that. Do you know how I could know what's happen, please ?
[01:31] <nomic> nairolf - it maybe overheated - you can tell what your temperature  settings of your processor is by typing   sudo apt-get instsll lm-sensors
[01:31] <nomic> then typing "sensors"
[01:32] <nomic> system shuts down automatically, without warning, if the temperature meets criticality
[01:32] <nomic> Nairolf
[02:48] <attlasbot> Can anyone tell me how to get my trackpad working in xubuntu 15.40
[02:48] <attlasbot> Can anyone tell me how to get my trackpad working in xubuntu 15.04?
[03:09] <nomic> maybe try asking in #ubuntu attlasbot
[03:09] <nomic> this is less busy
[03:09] <nomic> things are generally the same
[03:24] <Christopher-Were> Hey guys, I have an emergency here. I have a USB that insists on mounting as read-only on xubuntu 15.05. Any ideas on what to do?
[03:26] <Christopher-Were> Please I need help as soon as possible.
[04:45] <cntr> when i click on the title screen and move my mouse, the window drags along with the mouse, even if i didn't hold down the mouse button. what can i do to turn this off?
[04:45] <cntr> *title bar
[04:45] <cntr> of a window
[04:46] <holstein> sounds like maybe the mouse it malfucitioning? i would look at the hardware, just because, that was happening to me
[04:47] <holstein> where, i would actually "activate" the move, accidentally, with some hardware with a trick button that was failing
[04:47] <cntr> holstein: i've checked, it's not a problem with the mouse
[04:47] <holstein> cntr: cool.. how did you check? are you up to date with upgrades? can you login as the guest accunt and replicate it?
[04:48] <cntr> i used another mouse, yes i'm up to date, no i haven't checked with the guest account
[04:49] <cntr> when the window drags with the mouse, i need to click again to make it undrag, so it seems like a xubuntu problem
[04:52] <holstein> !bug | cntr
[04:53] <holstein> cntr: you can start a bug, and try and get someone else to confirm the issue.. i havent enountered it personally here.. what operating system are you using?
[04:53] <cntr> ...xubuntu.
[04:53] <cntr> the latest one
[04:54] <holstein> cntr: so, you are using xubuntu 15.04? then?
[04:54] <holstein> cntr: the key will be to share with a volunteer, and see if anyone can replicate it
[04:54] <holstein> if its a xubuntu issue, it will be something that we can replicate
[04:55] <holstein> could also be a xubuntu on your specific hardware issue..
[09:14] <|zer0|> hey all I have an issue, I have been removing a few unwanted apps from xubuntu and I have noticed a couple of links associated to software I removed have no icon and I cant remove them from the menu using the menu editor tool, any idea how to remove these non functional entries in xfce menu?
[09:20] <BrotherMaggot> for instance?
[09:22] <|zer0|> Removed packet Tracer 6.1.1 and updated to 6.2, had created a launcher icon in menu now sice I have removed Packet Tracer 6.1.1 the menu entry is there (no icon) and does not show up in the menu editor
[09:23] <|zer0|> Tried reboot, command "update-menus" installing other software via software centre to see if it will refresh the menu but no luck.
[09:27] <|zer0|> Also tried recreating a new launcher but it literally creates a new launcher beside the old and does not overwrite, like the menu doesnt know its there.
[09:28] <cfhowlett> |zer0|, you could delete the xfwm menu file from your /user.  it'll then recreate from default
[09:33] <|zer0|> cfhowlett, is that located usr/share/xfwm4?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> |zer0|, no it should be in your /home      do not muck about with the /usr/share/xfwm4
[09:33] <cfhowlett> looking for specific file now
[09:35] <BrotherMaggot> .config/menus/xfce-applications.menu   ?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> BrotherMaggot, I don't have that one for some reason ...
[09:36] <freiform> Hi.
[09:37] <BrotherMaggot> i'm 15.04.  what version are y'all?
[09:37] <|zer0|> 14.04
[09:37] <cfhowlett> BrotherMaggot, 14.04
[09:37]  * BrotherMaggot bows out
[09:38] <freiform> How can i tell lighdm on which screen to put the login window? I tried setting 'display-setup-script=xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --primary' in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-xubuntu.conf , but it doesn't take.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> |zer0|, I looked for xfwm and lacarte .hidden folders.  no joy.  there is a nuclear option.  delete ./xfwm and everything resets to factory fresh for that user.
[09:42] <|zer0|> does that just default the entire gui? what repercussions are there?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> |zer0|, all your settings and configurations will be wiped out
[09:47] <|zer0|> cfhowlett> there a specific command for that?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> |zer0|, rm /home/|zer0|/.config/xfce4
[09:49] <cfhowlett> then logout/login and you'll see first login configuration
[09:50] <cfhowlett> note: there IS a menu configuration file somewhere, but darned if I can find it
[09:51] <|zer0|> will see what happens now
 well it worked in defaulting the gui but the non functions entries are still in the menu  :)
[09:53] <cfhowlett> seriously?  dang.  Now I'm going to be obsessed with locating the menu .config
[09:54] <|zer0|> well at least I get to remodel my gui.. change is as good as a holiday!
[09:55] <brainwash> probably inside .local/share/
[09:55] <cfhowlett> brainwash, will look again
[10:17] <dodeluser> does anyone know how to set username & hostname in a remastered xubuntu? I read about this, but this does not work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization   (I changed and edited "casper.conf" in initrd.lz)
[10:40] <DazPetty> right now I really hate
[10:40] <DazPetty> linux
[10:40] <DazPetty> I mean ffs
[10:40] <DazPetty> everytime you install something
[10:41] <DazPetty> it seperates it into a million pieces and throws it accross your harddrive
[10:41] <brainwash> !ot
[10:41] <DazPetty> at least in windows you can just delete the directory, reinstall it and everything is fine, 99.9% of the time
[10:41] <DazPetty> well I have a problem that is on topic
[10:41] <DazPetty> because mysql has screwed my comp
[10:41] <cfhowlett> DazPetty, ranting is off-topic
[10:41] <cfhowlett> always
[10:42] <DazPetty> well stupidly installed mysql twice
[10:42] <DazPetty> once through apt-get a
[10:42] <DazPetty> and then through tasksel installing the lamp server
[10:43] <DazPetty> and it seemed no matter what I did I couldn't kill the damn mysql server
[10:43] <DazPetty> so I rm'ed all the mysql folders i could find
[11:40] <|zer0|> Anybody know how to delete a .desktop file from usr/share/applications which has spaces, this folder has permissions and need to delete as root?  I cannot do this from terminal as it wont recognise that it is a single file.
[11:47] <|zer0|> Dont worry, figured it out  :)
[12:35] <d00mster> Hi everybody! I am having video trouble on my Lenovo x01 using Xubuntu 15.04. I have a Intel HD 4000 GPU. I experience tearing and a rather slow performance for multimedia stuff suach as games.
[12:36] <d00mster> I tried to disable compositing under "Window manager tweaks" as suggested in some forum posts. Unfortuantely it didn't resolve my problem. Could somebody please point me in the right direction?
[12:37] <d00mster> oops I meant "Lenovo x201"
[12:40] <brainwash> d00mster: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics#Tear-free_video
[12:40] <jimieb> hi i have a xubuntu problem...
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !ask | jimieb
[12:42] <d00mster> Thank you, brainwash.
[12:42] <brainwash> d00mster: games can be demanding. is the performance in 15.04 worse than in previous releases? or do you have any comparison results?
[12:44] <jimieb> sorry! but i got it to work now :)
[12:44] <jimieb> thx anyway :D
[12:44] <d00mster> no I do not have any comparison results, it just "feels" slower. If I remember correctly the previous Xubuntu version I tested (Trusty Tahr) used a different video driver for my Laptop "Ironlake". Now acording to lshw it uses "Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller"
[12:45] <brainwash> d00mster: it a newer version of the same driver, also a newer kernel
[12:47] <d00mster> so it should work nicer.
[12:47] <brainwash> ideally yes
[12:48] <d00mster> I just wonder there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf atm. Is it ok to just put a new file there?
[12:48] <brainwash> yes, you have to create it manually
[12:48] <d00mster> and just paste the lines given in archwiki and it will work?
[12:48] <brainwash> yes
[12:49] <d00mster> Wow, okay... so no need to crate an xorg conf file first?
[12:49] <d00mster> +create
[12:49] <brainwash> no
[12:53] <d00mster> alright. I stheer anything else I need to configure after I created the file?
[12:54] <d00mster> (This gpu business for linux is rather confusing)
[12:54] <brainwash> no
[12:55] <sorinello> Hello. Can someone tell me how can I find out what sets a specified environment variable ?
[12:55] <d00mster> awesome! Thank you, brainwash. You saved my day
[12:56] <d00mster> have a nice day and all
[12:56] <brainwash> sorinello: it may be helpful if you tell us which environment variable
[13:02] <blb1234> I can has xubuntu-core packets list?
[13:03] <brainwash> blb1234: http://sprunge.us/eCaC
[13:05] <blb1234> brainwash: thanks
[13:44] <wotfloatsyourint> hello
[13:45] <wotfloatsyourint> I am suffering a problem when trying to run update-manager -d
[13:47] <wotfloatsyourint> http://pastebin.com/9D5JD7zH output
[15:54] <wotfloatsyourint> :\
[15:54] <wotfloatsyourint> I am suffering a problem when trying to run update-manager -d
[15:54] <wotfloatsyourint> http://pastebin.com/9D5JD7zH output
[16:03] <drc> wotfloatsyourint: If you don't get an answer here (and it looks that way), I'd try #ubuntu...it looks like it's not a strickly xubuntu problem, and there are more eyes in that channel.
[18:16] <carrera> Greetings!  :-)
[18:16] <carrera> I installed Xubuntu 15.04 a few days ago and I love it!
[18:21] <carrera> Except the Workspace Switcher started acting weird
[18:22] <carrera> suddenly it doesn't want to let me configure the number of rows and workspaces!
[18:23] <carrera> I removed it from the panel and added it back again, logged out and back in again, I even rebooted my laptop but the problem persists
[18:24] <carrera> Has anyone else ran into this problem?
[18:26] <carrera> I managed to configure is with various number of desktops and rows
[18:26] <carrera> I finally set it to 9 desktops in 3 rows and it kept the settings even after reboots
[18:27] <carrera> I added xubuntu-restricted-extras a couple of days ago.  I wonder if that has any thing to do with it?
[19:10] <wotfloatsyourint> I am suffering a problem when trying to run update-manager -d
[19:10] <wotfloatsyourint> http://pastebin.com/9D5JD7zH output
[19:10] <wotfloatsyourint> I am running 14.10 trying to upgrade to 15.04
[19:11] <Unit193> Don't use -d
[19:11] <wotfloatsyourint> ok
[19:12] <wotfloatsyourint> @Unit193 -- same output, same error without the -d arg
[19:14] <drc> wotfloatsyourint: Did you try #ubuntu like I suggested earlier?
[19:14] <genii> wotfloatsyourint: What happens if you try instead: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:15] <wotfloatsyourint> Drc, i did not see your message, i will try
[19:15] <wotfloatsyourint> genii, same output
[19:15] <genii> Hm
[19:15] <Unit193> I'd check sources.d for weirdness.
[19:16] <drc> wotfloatsyourint: Not that folks here won't help (if they have any idea), but it looks like not a xubuntu exclusive issue and #ubuntu has more eyes.
[19:16] <wotfloatsyourint> alright, thank drc
[19:17] <wotfloatsyourint> Thank you Unit193
[19:17] <Unit193> Sure.
[20:36] <xubuntu412> test
[20:37] <ochosi> test
[20:37] <genii> xubuntu412: Yes, we see what you type :)
[20:38] <elfy> I can't
[20:38] <ochosi> test, 1, 2, 3. mic check.
[20:39] <elfy> genii: we have carte blance - if XPL can offtopic :p
[20:39]  * ochosi whispers "carte blanche..."
[20:39]  * elfy is rubbish at whispering
[20:40]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:40]  * elfy ponders theft
[20:40] <ochosi> :D


[00:09] <pleia2> http://twitter.com/#!/XubuntuLinux
[00:09] <pleia2> well, there is nothing on it
[00:09] <pleia2> but it now exists
[00:09] <pleia2> I figure we just tweet the blog posts there
[00:09] <knome> hihi
[00:09] <knome> great
[00:09] <knome> btw..
[00:10] <knome> looking at the right sidebar in twitter
[00:10] <knome> the logo looks a bit ugly? ;)
[00:10] <knome> no rounded (transparent) corners? ;)
[00:10] <pleia2> hrm, mouse does not squish well
[00:10] <knome> no, the mouse looks okay
[00:10] <knome> it's the corners that eeks mee
[00:11] <pleia2> ah, maybe transparent png will work better then
[00:11]  * pleia2 experiments
[00:11] <knome> mmh
[00:11] <knome> not completely transparent, the mouse should be white :)
[00:12] <pleia2> ok, there
[00:12] <knome> yeah, great
[01:27] <knome> pleia2, for some reason, it appears that the xubuntu twitter icon is back to non-transparent :|
[01:40] <knome> pleia2, now it looks transparent again.
[02:34] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/brainstorm-20111207-01-rays.png
[02:45] <knome> jono, where in irc can i contact the cd-image team, or anybody that knows about maybe-ubiquity?
[02:50] <pleia2> knome: shiny
[02:50] <pleia2> but not tall enough?
[02:50] <knome> that's exported from svg
[02:51]  * pleia2 nods
[02:51] <knome> my idea is to create a wallpaper that spans both my monitors
[02:51] <knome> so the normal user would basically see the right-hand side only
[02:55] <jono> knome, not sure, you might want to mail ubuntu-devel or ask in #ubuntu-devel
[02:56] <knome> ok.
[14:56] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:57] <charlie-tca> Testing today, manual install or guided resize
[14:57] <charlie-tca> well, manual partitioning or guided resize
[14:58] <madnick> Did i386 desktop
[14:58] <madnick> It works
[14:58] <charlie-tca> Update the iso tracker?
[14:58] <madnick> About to test alt
[14:58] <madnick> oh, i perhaps should hehe
[14:58] <madnick> i will
[14:59] <charlie-tca> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/qatracker/milestones/204/builds
[14:59] <charlie-tca> Thanks for running those!
[15:00] <ochosi> btw, if you're testing xubuntu-stuff it'd be nice if you could test greybird again
[15:00] <ochosi> i rewrote big parts of the gtk3-theme
[15:00] <madnick> where is the repo?
[15:00] <ochosi> i think it should work fine, but i don't have a full gnome3 environment here, so it might be that i don't see some widgets that are broekn
[15:00] <ochosi> https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird
[15:01] <madnick> thanks
[15:01] <ochosi> np
[15:01] <madnick> ill try it on the image im installing now
[15:01] <charlie-tca> I can test it, but I am still running Xubuntu 11.10 here. Can add the themes to precise in a test setup, though
[15:01] <ochosi> you don't have to use git if you don't want, you can also dl a tarball from github
[15:01] <ochosi> ok, well even 11.10 is fine
[15:01] <ochosi> anything really :)
[15:01] <ochosi> thanks for testing!
[15:03] <charlie-tca> downloading now
[15:03] <charlie-tca> you are very welcome
[17:46] <charlie-tca> Anyone able to install using the 64bit images today?
[17:47] <charlie-tca> madnick, you need to update the daily tracker for your tests, please.
[17:52] <madnick> charlie-tca: irl poked me (fridge stopped working, had to go and get fuses) will do it now, the install is done I see
[17:53] <charlie-tca> Did we do the same tests? I had to run some, since there were none in the tracker yet
[17:54] <charlie-tca> OH! sorry. misread that line. Did you get the refrigerator fixed?
[17:54] <madnick> Yes, but all my food is ruined :(
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Ouch!
[17:54] <charlie-tca> That doesn't help anything :(
[17:54] <madnick> Btw, today is the first time I login to the tracker, it says: Warning: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ does not look like a trustworthy URL.
[17:55] <madnick> Ill just login :P
[17:57] <madnick> charlie-tca: btw, the desktop one today, said i was not connected to internet.
[17:57] <madnick> But Im not sure its a bug
[17:57] <madnick> Or if the DNS was not updated
[17:57] <charlie-tca> weird
[17:57] <charlie-tca> mine connected
[17:57] <charlie-tca> I don't remember if the URL gave me that message or not. If it did, I must have added an exception to firefox
[17:59] <madnick> Well, its the same url I got from the release channel, so i will trust it
[18:00] <madnick> ok i filled in all things i've tested so far, will continue to poke around a bit
[18:01] <charlie-tca> Thanks for doing that. I am sorry to hear about the food, though.
[18:02] <madnick> The worst part about it, is that I have stocked up on some nice caribou :(
[18:02] <madnick> Can't eat that now
[18:03] <charlie-tca> Oh, man!
[18:03] <charlie-tca> I really think that is good eating, too
[18:04] <madnick> I will make sure to change my fuses from 6amp to 10amp, but I am not allowed to do it, change the panel, because im technically not a certified electrician, even tho I worked alot with eletricity/eletronics, last time i changed some stuff they got pretty mad :P
[18:05] <charlie-tca> I know that one, too. I been yelled at by some mighty fine electricians for doing stuff like that.
[18:06] <madnick> yup, it is quite frustrating :P
[18:09] <madnick> knome: since I'm sorta done with the greeter things, where shall i put it? launchpad?
[18:09] <madnick> (this includes the settings interface)
[18:36] <charlie-tca> Will have to wait until tomorrow to see if Alternate 64 will work
[19:08] <charlie-tca> GridCube: good afternoon, sir
[19:09] <GridCube> good afternoon mister charlie-tca
[19:09] <GridCube> how are you in this nice day?
[19:09] <charlie-tca> Testing is going daily again. You were correct about the daily tracker.
[19:09] <GridCube> :) great!
[19:10] <charlie-tca> I am fine, finger is healing nicely
[19:10] <GridCube> i've done just a few tests lately, like 2
[19:10] <GridCube> :) good to hear that
[19:11] <scott-work> charlie-tca: what happened to your finger?  nothing too bad i hope
[19:11] <charlie-tca> I cut it, doc put 4 stitches in it
[19:11] <charlie-tca> I bleed well
[19:13] <GridCube> :o
[19:13] <GridCube> well its good now
[19:14] <GridCube> so charlie-tca, you can get some nice reports of tests?
[19:14] <GridCube> like charts and things
[19:14] <charlie-tca> Not that I can find yet
[19:14] <GridCube> thats what madnick and I where working on next :P superb charts for tests
[19:14] <charlie-tca> So far, all I get is the results on the tracker. I can't seem to get reports to work
[19:15] <GridCube> :) oh well it will come i guess
[19:15] <GridCube> its still better than the google spreadsheet
[19:15] <charlie-tca> You think? I hope so. It doesn't help much when all you can see is today's results
[19:15] <GridCube> true that
[19:15] <charlie-tca> I don't get to see if it failed even yesterday
[19:16] <GridCube> i think that, data is there, report system should be there too
[19:16] <charlie-tca> I agree. Maybe that is still in-work, though
[19:17] <charlie-tca> We can now have more than one entry for each test, per person. If I test both VBox and hardware, I can make two entries for it.
[19:18] <GridCube> :) yes
[19:19] <GridCube> and in theory you will be able to load presets of test machines, so you cansay... "i did x test with y specs"
[19:20] <GridCube> also bug reports reported there would send a message to the reported bug with the user specs, testcase and build number
[19:20] <GridCube> but that was particularly hard to do as far as i understand
[19:22] <charlie-tca> I don't know where you put your test machine information
[19:24] <GridCube> its not enabled yet
[19:24] <GridCube> it should be on the user configuration panel
[19:25] <GridCube> stgraber said it would be implemented but he didnt knew when
[19:26] <charlie-tca> All Xubuntu 64bit images fail to install today
[19:58] <knome> GridCube, remember that you have until the end of next week to write and finish the specification for discussion about the media players :)
[19:59] <GridCube> yes
[19:59] <GridCube> bad weeks, finals and such
[20:00] <knome> well yeah. still
[20:00] <GridCube> i could simply drop all of it, its a matter of tastes, and sudo apt-get its just a few strikes away, tho i still think gmusicbrowser its like the worst of all posible options
[20:01] <knome> GridCube, i do encourage writing the specification though.
[20:02] <GridCube> ok
[20:02] <GridCube> will try to get it done
[20:02] <knome> thanks
[20:02] <GridCube> :)
[20:03] <knome> it's not so strict, we can wait a bit longer, but the general idea is to have the specs written, so we have time to discuss and implement too
[20:03] <GridCube> ok
[20:05] <knome> the ultimate deadline is something around the end of the year, but as most of us have several items, discussind and dealing incomplete specs might drag a bit
[20:06] <GridCube> :)
[20:06] <GridCube> talking about issues
[20:06] <knome> mm?
[20:06] <GridCube> i've send a message to the guy that did the kbdleds thing, he never answered
[20:27] <knome> try again
[20:27] <knome> things don't always come easy
[20:35] <Unit193> I'd say the GDoc was better, I could actually enter stuff in that...
[20:44] <pleia2> charlie-tca: thanks, since the doc he linked was just a draft I wasn't sure if "3 or 5" was a placeholder or an actual choice we had :)
[20:45] <charlie-tca> Choice, I don't think anyone touched the draft since it was drawn up at UDS
[20:45] <pleia2> that's good
[20:45] <charlie-tca> :)
[21:06] <pleia2> http://www.thevarguy.com/2011/12/07/open-source-heartbreak-learning-to-love-again-with-xfce4/
[21:18] <baizon> nice to hear :)


[07:47] <astraljava> It would be nice if people could file bugs about such. How nice is it now trying to dig out the information afterwards?
[16:55] <chemistree> dumb question: does ubuntu studio  support web browsing as well as any other distro?
[16:56] <chemistree> such as firefox.... or is there some other linux based browser that will work under ubuntu studio?
[16:56] <astraljava> chemistree: I don't know whether we specifically support it. The browsers just work, unless there are problems with networking, of course.
[16:57] <chemistree> ... by "support it" do you mean web browsing on ubuntu studio is looked down upon?
[16:57] <astraljava> chemistree: Firefox is by default, as it is with Xubuntu. We're basing heavily on Xubuntu nowadays.
[16:57] <astraljava> chemistree: Not by any means.
[16:57] <chemistree> oh i see
[16:58] <chemistree> astraljava: are you running ubuntu studio right now?
[16:58] <chemistree> as we talk
[16:58] <astraljava> Yep.
[16:58] <chemistree> sweet,
[17:00] <chemistree> I have a netbook, 2gb ram, that should support ubuntu studio fine... right? as well as using say, inkscape, or Ardour 2 (one at a time of course)
[17:00] <chemistree> ?
[17:00]  * chemistree is flaunting ignorance
[17:01] <astraljava> chemistree: If any other ubuntu runs on it fine, then it shouldn't be a problem for Studio either.
[17:02] <chemistree> right on
[17:03] <chemistree> astraljava: why do you use Ubuntu studio?
[17:03] <chemistree> ... are you one of the programers of the distro?
[17:03] <astraljava> chemistree: I'm one of the contributors, yes.
[17:04] <astraljava> I use it because I try to record my own stuff with it.
[17:04] <chemistree> like audio?
[17:04] <astraljava> Yep.
[17:05] <chemistree> if so, would you mind linking me to some examples of your work?
[17:05] <chemistree> I could do the same to some of my stuff too, if you like (although it is in primitive stages of production...)
[17:06] <astraljava> I don't have anything up at the moment.
[17:07] <chemistree> oh ok... well soundcloud is a good place if you ever want to put audio clips online...
[17:07] <astraljava> Yeah, I'll look around when I'm ready to publish anything.
[17:10] <chemistree> http://www.foldplop.com/
[17:10] <chemistree> this individual has some interesting music. reminds me of Shpongle. a little more mellow overall
[17:11] <astraljava> Right. I'm a little more into the heavier side, actually.
[17:11] <chemistree> ?? such as...
[17:12] <astraljava> You can take a look at my last.fm page: http://last.fm/user/astraljava
[17:12] <chemistree> k
[17:14] <holstein> theres nothing about ubuntustudio you would really want/need on a netbook
[17:14] <holstein> though it wont hurt anything either
[17:15] <holstein> i run JACK on an early mininote HP 2133
[17:15] <chemistree> I see, we have some musical overlaps: dreamTheater, porcupine tree, andymCkee
[17:15] <chemistree> what is JACK?
[17:15] <holstein> i use a firewire express card
[17:15] <holstein> i wouldnt, and dont edit the audio on the netbook
[17:15] <holstein> the internal sound card will be a bottleneck just like it will for any other device
[17:15] <chemistree> hmmm, thnks for your views
[17:16] <holstein> chemistree: for audio, if you dont need JACK, you really dont need ubuntustudio
[17:16] <holstein> you can always just add what you want to normal ubuntu
[17:16] <holstein> ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[17:16] <holstein> just customized
[17:16] <chemistree> holstein: so ubuntu would be the way to go...
[17:16] <holstein> chemistree: thats up to you and your needs
[17:17] <chemistree> ubuntu studio is just visually taylored towards editing audio and images?
[17:17] <holstein> im just stating facts right now, so you can make an informed decision
[17:17] <chemistree> nice
[17:17] <holstein> chemistree: its not so much visually
[17:17] <holstein> its different packages
[17:17] <holstein> its more packages, but not just that either
[17:18] <chemistree> well i just want to write code, upload my audio recordings and do minor edits/mix, create simple images and surf web
[17:18] <chemistree> lol
[17:18] <holstein> yup, thats stuff *any* linux can do, and both ubuntu and ubuntustudio will do those tasks very well
[17:18] <chemistree> kinda a lot, but I think if I limit myself to one major app at a time the the netbook should handle fine
[17:19] <holstein> and you are welcome to come here and ask questions regardless of what you decide
[17:19] <chemistree> nice... i guess I just need to see for myself which distro I like better...
[17:20] <chemistree> I kinda want to start with ubuntu studio, but only for aesthetic reasons, I guess
[17:20] <holstein> http://holstein.bandcamp.com/track/breath
[17:20] <holstein> chemistree: ubuntustudio 11.10 is actually pretty asthetically neutral
[17:20] <holstein> we had just went to XFCE
[17:20] <holstein> and have no real themeing in place
[17:21] <holstein> i personally am running ubuntu 10.04 on my studio machine with kxstudio PPA's added
[17:21] <holstein> i mostly run the LTS releases, though i install and test the others when time allows
[17:21] <chemistree> astraljava: more into heavy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mU05RmIKJI&feature=related
[17:22] <chemistree> djent
[17:22] <astraljava> Nice.
[17:22] <astraljava> Reminds a little of TesseracT.
[17:23] <astraljava> Which reminds me I need to rip that CD to the music library.
[17:24] <chemistree> astraljava: also see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVCpfTtHzzo
[17:24] <chemistree> =]
[17:24] <chemistree> I like your solo cello holstein
[17:24] <holstein> chemistree: thanks... its actually bass
[17:24] <chemistree> or is it double bass?
[17:25] <holstein> FOSS from beginning to end :)
[17:25] <chemistree> I think you would really appreciate: Christopher Roberts "Trio for deep voices"
[17:25] <chemistree> is that you playing the bass?
[17:25] <holstein> yup
[17:26] <chemistree> yeah, check out Christopher Roberts album, on Cold Blue records...
[17:26] <astraljava> Quite a Killswitch Engage feel to this one, very cool.
[17:26] <chemistree> FOSS?
[17:26] <astraljava> Free / Open Source Software.
[17:27] <ADD_nauseam> sup m8s
[17:27] <chemistree> yeah the bass player is a SLAP MACHINE!!!!
[17:27] <ADD_nauseam> whats a slap machine?
[17:27] <holstein> chemistree: that was recorded and produced in ubuntustudio
[17:28] <chemistree> ADD_nauseam: SLAP MACHINE: one who slaps the shit out of his electric bass.
[17:28] <chemistree> see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVCpfTtHzzo
[17:28] <ADD_nauseam> i get it :)
[17:28] <chemistree> heh
[17:29] <chemistree> anyway
[17:29] <chemistree> holstein: so "breath" was done in ubuntu studio?
[17:30] <chemistree> what program did you use for production?
[17:30] <holstein> chemistree: that particular project, 'living' was... from start to finish
[17:30] <holstein> chemistree: i tracked in ardour, and mixed there as well using JAMin during export for mastering
[17:30] <holstein> not much mixing envolved though
[17:31] <holstein> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/spork12 is a project i mised in ubuntustudio
[17:31] <holstein> but it was tracked at the club in protools? i think it was PT
[17:31] <ADD_nauseam> a friend of mine tells me reall linux producers use AVlinux
[17:32] <holstein> ADD_nauseam: AVLinux runs great live
[17:32] <holstein> its based on an older version of debian, so you get older packages
[17:32] <holstein> not a deal breaker
[17:32] <ADD_nauseam> even better
[17:32] <holstein> its a great project, and the dev is very cool
[17:33] <holstein> i like the combo of ubuntustudio+KXstudio ppa's
[17:34] <holstein> TBH, it really doent matter
[17:34] <holstein> JACK is JACK, and ardour is ardour
[17:34] <holstein> the tools are open and common to all distros really
[17:34] <chemistree> I like the sound of this jazz... brass is smooth here.
[17:34] <holstein> its more about what you are comfortable with
[17:34] <holstein> chemistree: yeah, a few of those guys moved here recently
[17:35] <holstein> they are on tour a lot, but when they are around we play out as much as possible
[17:35] <chemistree> you on east coast?
[17:35] <holstein> northcarolina
[17:36] <holstein> i gotta run though... welcome to the channel chemistree & ADD_nauseam
[17:36] <ADD_nauseam> im on the west coast of EU :)
[17:36] <chemistree> thnks
[17:36] <holstein> if its too slow in here try #opensourcemusicians
[17:36] <chemistree> does ubuntu studio come with audio and graphics apps?
[17:36] <chemistree> such as ardour and gimp and inscape?
[17:37] <ADD_nauseam> i used to use satanic ubuntu
[17:37] <chemistree> inkscape**
[17:37] <ADD_nauseam> but its seems its been discontinued
[17:37] <chemistree> what do you use now?
[17:37] <ADD_nauseam> windows7
[17:37] <chemistree> are you looking to switch to linux distro?
[17:38] <chemistree> or dual boot?
[17:38] <ADD_nauseam> i have fedora
[17:38] <ADD_nauseam> but its sucks
[17:38] <ADD_nauseam> ive never seen a comecial backed distro so bad
[17:39] <ADD_nauseam> maybe its just gnome 3
[17:40] <ADD_nauseam> i ad to install kde on top of it but now i get suplicated apps in the menus and what not
[17:40] <ADD_nauseam> kde 4 also sucks
[18:08] <falktx_> kde4 does not suck if you how to handle it
[18:08] <falktx_> kde4 is a beast yes, but we can control it
[18:15] <chemistree> does ubuntu studio come with ardour2, Gimp, and inkscape installed?
[18:25] <astraljava> Yes it does.
[18:30] <ADD_nauseam> kde3 was alot better if you dont mind the bugs
[18:33] <astraljava> I never liked it much. It always looked a little outdated, even several years before the switch to KDE4.
[18:57] <chemistree> astarljava: ubuntu studio is geared towards visual and audio arts in that all the programs come preinstalled?
[18:57] <chemistree> astarljava:
[18:57] <chemistree> astraljava: double typo
[18:58] <rlameiro> well, not all
[18:59] <rlameiro> as far as the last releases, you have an optiont to select packages with a set of software
[18:59] <rlameiro> Video, audio, graphics
[18:59] <rlameiro> depending on your preference
[19:01] <astraljava> chemistree: Almost correct. We're wanting to choose the "best apps" by default. But your definition may vary, obviously.
[19:01] <astraljava> Everything _can_ be installed later, of course.
[19:03] <chemistree> so is that all that sets Ustudio apart from Ubuntu? relevent apps are chosen for the user?
[19:04] <astraljava> Pretty much. Some themeing and small tweaks, like back in the day we would have -rt kernel instead of -generic etc.
[19:04] <holstein> chemistree: think of it less like 'ubuntustudio is preinstalled with x'
[19:05] <holstein> its really just customized ubuntu
[19:05] <chemistree> is there a text editor?
[19:05] <chemistree> ah
[19:05] <astraljava> holstein: Same thing, really.
[19:05] <holstein> based on what can be included due to licenses
[19:05] <holstein> and what the dev team chooses to install, and include
[19:06] <holstein> astraljava: pretty much the same idea
[19:06] <holstein> chemistree: we are going to something called 'workflows'
[19:06] <holstein> you would get the packages installed to do podcasting for example by just clicking that icon or whatever
[19:07] <holstein> chemistree: what is going to set ubuntustudio ubuntu apart is the community
[19:08] <holstein> ubuntustudio & ubuntu ^
[19:09] <holstein> chemistree: there are lots of text editors available in the repositories, which are the same ones as main ubuntu
[19:12] <chemistree> so community sets them apart... ubuntu seems to have a much larger community
[19:12] <chemistree> more users
[19:12] <astraljava> chemistree: Yes, that you must understand, Ubuntu Studio is based on Ubuntu, uses the same repositories and thus has everything accessible as the other *buntus do.
[19:12] <astraljava> chemistree: However, our user base is much more limited.
[19:13] <chemistree> user base? meaning people you can talk to who are using Ustudio?
[19:15] <chemistree> Ubuntu studio .org home page is just so damn appealing though!
[19:15] <chemistree> :]
[19:16] <holstein> chemistree: go for it.. you literally dont have to decide now
[19:16] <holstein> you can install it, and revert to *any* other buntu
[19:16] <holstein> or install main ubuntu and upgrade
[19:16] <holstein> or switch to xubuntu... or run lubuntu and add some of the ubuntustudio packages
[19:19] <chemistree> lots of options... so in about a week I will be installing a linux distro on my netbook, So I suppose then I will be looking for some support on installing and running linux
[19:19] <chemistree> first timer here installing a distro
[19:20] <astraljava> You can always ask here, and on #ubuntu, for help.
[19:20] <chemistree> yeah, that will probably happen
[19:20] <chemistree> thnks
[19:20] <chemistree> :)
[19:21] <chemistree> Until next time
[19:21] <chemistree> i'm out
[19:21] <holstein> heres 2 tips...
[19:21] <chemistree> ok
[19:21] <holstein> run it live *before* you install
[19:21] <chemistree> hmm
[19:21] <holstein> and ask *before* you click and break something ;)
[19:21] <holstein> if at all possible
[19:22] <chemistree> ok I'll be careful
[19:22] <holstein> the ubuntustudio iso is not a live iso as of now, but i still think it is worth the effort to run main ubuntu live or xubuntu to see how the hardware support is
[19:22] <holstein> then, you can install ubuntustudio as you please, and confidently
[19:22] <holstein> either knowing everything will just work, or having an idea of how to get support
[19:22] <chemistree> I will have to look into how to run ubuntu live. thanks for the heads up.
[19:23] <holstein> chemistree: when you make the normal ubuntu cd, or xubuntu, its an option when you boot the cd
[19:23] <holstein> "run live without any changes"
[19:23] <chemistree> oh
[19:23] <chemistree> what about if I just download ubuntu and run it from harddrive?
[19:24] <holstein> you can literally do whatever you want
[19:24] <holstein> but thats not trivial
[19:24] <holstein> you can do a wubi install inside windows... i did for a while on my studio machine years ago
[19:24] <holstein> its not ideal
[19:25] <holstein> ideal is to dual boot, or just install linux on the entire drive
[19:25] <chemistree> well, how would I get ubutu on a disk without downloading first? yeah, dual boot is what I want
[19:25] <holstein> chemistree: with FOSS and linux, its not so much "can" you do it... its more about how, and if you want to go through the trouble
[19:25] <holstein> in theory, its all open, and anything is possible
[19:26] <holstein> but there are hardware limitations and things that are just not practical
[19:26] <holstein> 20:23 < chemistree> what about if I just download ubuntu and run it from harddrive?
[19:26] <holstein> ^^ to me, that means you download the image, and click and run ubuntu
[19:26] <holstein> that can only happen (easily) with wubi
[19:27] <holstein> or virtualizing linux
[19:28] <chemistree> so the alternative to wubi is to download -> burn to disk -> run live from disk
[19:28] <holstein> chemistree: ubuntustudio can not be run live
[19:29] <chemistree> yeah, but Ubuntu can
[19:29] <holstein> you can run the normal ubuntu (and most of the other ones) live from CD or USB or whatever
[19:29] <chemistree> ok
[19:30] <chemistree> so I can just download ubuntu (normal) to my 2 gig jump drive, and run it live from that? sounds like a good place to start
[19:31] <holstein> chemistree: yup.. thats a great way to 'kick the tires'.. that or xubuntu since ubuntustudio is XFCE as well
[19:31] <astraljava> chemistree: You will have to use USB stick creator, or unetbootin to make it bootable, though.
[19:31] <holstein> yeah, or you can dd copy them now
[19:32] <astraljava> Oh okay, yeah.
[19:32] <holstein> astraljava: 11.10? and above?
[19:33] <astraljava> holstein: I forget which one was the breaker, but after a certain release you had to use the same or later release with USB creator. unetbootin should work for all.
[19:33] <astraljava> holstein: Never used dd, but I figure it should work just fine.
[19:33] <chemistree> holstein: "dd copy them now"?
[19:37] <astraljava> Well, at last I feel pride for sharing the nationality with a dude: http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=608395
[19:37] <holstein> astraljava: i tested it whever it was
[19:37] <holstein> worked great :)
[19:37] <astraljava> Good to know.
[19:38] <holstein> chemistree: you can... that'll give you a bootable USB stick
[19:38] <holstein> its not trivial.. dd is also known as "disk destroyer"
[19:41] <astraljava> Heheh.
[19:48] <chemistree> "its not trivial" meaning: it IS of importance. so  the USB stick creator method will side step the 'non-trivial' "disk destroyer" route?
[19:49] <holstein> chemistree: i mean its not something you want to take lightly
[19:49] <holstein> if you say 'sudo dd erase all my important data from my actual hard drive'... it will
[19:50] <chemistree> downloading onto a jump drive and running live from that is much much more trivial then...
[19:50] <chemistree> sounds like that is the safest possible action to take
[19:51] <holstein> chemistree: you should back up everything
[19:51] <holstein> and no how to revert
[19:51] <holstein> thats the safest possible action
[19:51] <holstein> then, you literally cant break anything


[18:20] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:15] <ajmitch> morning
[20:21] <chilts> morning
[20:22] <mwhudson> morning


[11:45] <steffenstrobel> and you must have sound-system enabled!
[11:45] <steffenstrobel> no artsd no artsdsp!
[11:45] <theD3viL> what audio device i must choise ?
[11:45] <theD3viL> alsa, esd oss .. ?
[11:46] <theD3viL> matej@ubuntu:~/TeamSpeak2RC2$ artsdsp TeamSpeak
[11:46] <theD3viL> /usr/bin/artsdsp: line 108: exec: TeamSpeak: not found
[11:46] <gdh> you have to give the full path
[11:46] <gdh> 'which TeamSpeak'
[11:46] <gdh> assuming it's spelt /exactly/ like that
[11:46] <gdh> and not 'teamspeak' etc.
[11:47] <steffenstrobel> theD3viL: if you use artsdsp to open a programm you can use nearly any sound output
[11:47] <steffenstrobel> in that programm
[11:47] <theD3viL> uuuuuuuu
[11:47] <theD3viL> thnx :D
[11:47] <theD3viL> it works yeah
[11:47] <steffenstrobel> great! :)
[11:48] <theD3viL> and now i must everytime when i want to start teamspeak write this ?
[11:48] <gdh> TeamSpeak is that thing so you can tell your friends when you're about to 'frag their ass' etc. ?
[11:49] <theD3viL> yes :)
[11:49] <gdh> the marvels of technology...
[11:49] <steffenstrobel> yes, but you can change your shortcut: rightclick on the k button in your taskbar and select k menu editor
[11:49] <steffenstrobel> now you can edit the command to open teamspeak!
[11:50] <theD3viL> k menu editor.. ? i cant find it
[11:51] <steffenstrobel> what options do you get when you rightklick on the k?
[11:51] <theD3viL> hm... steffenstrobel can i use artsdsp for everything? system sound... all programs .. ?
[11:52] <steffenstrobel> theD3viL: look here http://docs.kde.org/en/3.4/kdemultimedia/artsbuilder/artsdsp.html
[11:52] <theD3viL> k
[11:52] <theD3viL> open, open with, propraties, ...
[11:52] <steffenstrobel> i mean the button to open you "startmenu"
[11:53] <theD3viL> aha ;))
[11:53] <steffenstrobel> :)
[11:53] <steffenstrobel> arsdsp emulates a soundcard for programs that have no arts support
[11:53] <theD3viL> aha...
[11:54] <theD3viL> so i cant use it for default sound system.. now i have alsa
[11:54] <steffenstrobel> so your soundserver is artsd and the other programms that have no arts support can use artsd over the artsdsp emulation
[11:54] <Pupeno> ubuntu and kubunto share the same repositories of software, right ? so for matters like packaging gcc I could as well ask on ubuntu-related channels ?
[11:54] <steffenstrobel> Pupeno: yes
[11:55] <steffenstrobel> Pupeno: this channel is for kde specific questions
[11:55] <Pupeno> Thank you.
[11:55] <steffenstrobel> :)
[11:55] <steffenstrobel> theD3viL: have you found teamspeak in the k menu editor?
[11:56] <theD3viL> so i can use artsd for default sound system
[11:56] <theD3viL> yes i have... now what ?
[11:56] <steffenstrobel> look at the command
[11:56] <theD3viL> yes..
[11:56] <steffenstrobel> there is probably: teamspeak
[11:56] <theD3viL> no..
[11:56] <steffenstrobel> or?
[11:56] <steffenstrobel> what
[11:56] <theD3viL> /home/matej/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak
[11:56] <steffenstrobel> ok
[11:57] <steffenstrobel> now edit it to: artsdsp /home/matej/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak
[11:57] <theD3viL> k
[11:57] <steffenstrobel> and click on the save button in the menu
[11:58] <steffenstrobel> and if you now open teamspeak it shoud use artsdsp!
[11:58] <theD3viL> hm.. i save it... and computer updating system info... and when i look again its without arstdsp
 so i can use artsd for default sound system <- ?
[11:59] <steffenstrobel> theD3viL: artsd is your default soundsystem, you use artsdsp to make other programs with no artasd support use artsd
[11:59] <steffenstrobel> is it now clear?
[12:00] <theD3viL> so i can write in /etc/libao.conf default driver artsd ?
[12:01] <steffenstrobel> try it :9
[12:01] <theD3viL> k :)


[03:50] <thomi> lifeless: any ideas off the top of your head how I can abort a test suite being run from within a test case? It's an unusual request I realise. It seems I'd need to override RunTest to provde that sort of functionality?
[03:57] <lifeless> you need to call result.stop()
[03:57] <lifeless> you can use stack inspection to get the result object
[03:57] <lifeless> see some of the (heinous :P) code in testresources for an example of doing that
[19:32] <chilts> morning
[19:55] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:26] <chilts> yay, two pieces of chocolate on my desk this morning
[20:26] <chilts> it's a mystery
[20:27] <ibeardslee> probably meant for me .. can you wander over and drop them off?
[20:28] <chilts> yeah, no worries
[20:29] <chilts> I'll try and regurgitate them for you
[20:29] <chilts> still interested? :)
[20:29] <chilts> ibeardslee: so what are you wearing today?
[20:29] <ibeardslee> let them solidify again .. remove the carrots etc first.
[20:30] <chilts> ewwww
[20:31] <ajmitch> morning
[20:43] <snail> so I'm writing a blog post about a new feature, testing all my links immediately before hitting 'publish' only to find that the feature has been reverted...
[20:46] <ibeardslee> bugger
[20:49] <ibeardslee> on the plus side .. you checked before you published.
[21:01] <chilts> snail: new feature in what?
[21:11] <hads> morning
[21:31] <snail> chilts: something completely un-ubuntu related, as it happens: http://search.victoria.ac.nz/
[21:32] <snail> it's a google-in-a-box
[21:51] <chilts> which search backend are you using?
[21:51] <chilts> looks cool
[22:33] <snail> chilts: it's a google-in-a-box: a google-yellow coloured physical box in our machine room
[22:44] <kcj> Morning.
[22:54] <chilts> oh right, I thought you were saying it was "like google-in-a-box" but it's the real thing
[22:54] <chilts> bright yellow I guess
[22:56] <snail> chilts: I've got to say that it appears that the google brand name has let the in-house people achieve things which would have been organisationally impossible otherwise
[22:57] <chilts> that's almost quite sad
[22:57] <chilts> but good they were able to get it done
[22:57] <chilts> costs a pretty packet though doesn't it?
[22:58] <thumper> I've seen the google search appliances before :)
[22:58] <thumper> not cheap
[23:07] <ojwb> it seems you're mostly paying for the name
[23:26] <chilts> ojwb: you could have done it for them! :)
[23:46] <ojwb> chilts: they have a few people with search expertise already I think
[23:47] <ojwb> they just don't throw much of it at the appliance...


[08:44] <dpm> hey danilos, do you know if intltool supports generic xml files, such as http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gwibber-committers/gwibber/trunk/view/head:/data/gwibber.application ?
[08:45] <dpm> We'd like to extract the <description> tag strings from that file for the 12.10 Online Accounts dialog
[08:45] <danilos> dpm, only if "_" are prepended to tags
[08:45] <dpm> danilos, to both the opening and closing tags? I'm trying this and it seems to ignore the file
[08:46] <dpm> as in <_description>Integrate your feed data</_description>
[08:46]  * dpm tries other combinations
[08:46] <danilos> dpm, yes, to both; you might need to specify --type=gettext/xml to intltool-extract
[08:46] <dpm> ah, good point
[08:46]  * dpm tries
[08:47] <dpm> I can specify it on POTFILES.in as well, I guess
[08:48] <danilos> dpm, yeah, using [gettext/xml] on the beginning of the line
[08:58] <dpm> danilos, hm, that didn't seem to work, intltool-update does not create a POT file and complains that there were no translatable strings. Do these look ok to you? I'm trying to see if I've missed something obvious -> POTFILES.in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpm/+junk/testintl/view/head:/po/POTFILES.in and the XML file: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpm/+junk/testintl/view/head:/data/gwibber.application.in
[09:00] <dpm> ah, intltool-extract --type="gettext/xml" ../data/gwibber.application.in works, but not if the type is specified in POTFILES.in
[09:04] <dpm> ok, got it: wrong syntax in POTFILES.in - it should be [type: gettext/xml]data/gwibber.application.in
[09:36] <dpm> in any case, for those interested, this concerns bug 1052375
[09:45] <danilos> dpm, sorry for the wrong syntax :)
[09:46] <dpm> danilos, no worries, was not difficult to figure out. I knew you were just testing me :P
[09:46] <danilos> dpm, exactly :D


[03:34] <skaet> knome, and others helping with Alpha 1,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Alpha1/Xubuntu is a prefilled template with the common portions filled in if you want to use it.   If not,  please just let me know the link of where you are keeping the release notes, so it can be used for the announcement.
[14:30] <skellat> I believe there may be a meeting scheduled for today.  Since I'm currently using a jury-rigged lash up of phone and laptop since my home is going through the 2nd power outage in 72 hours I'm not going to be attending.  I won't be able to keep this link up all that long and the power company has given no ETA for power restoration.


[08:43] <jamespage> if there is an AA about - https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ceph introduced a new binary only promotion to main for libpmemobj1 across three archs (pmdk source package already in main)
[08:44] <sil2100> o/
[14:44] <bdmurray> dbungert: I've rerun the curl test now that we have a new vip-manager
[14:44] <dbungert> bdmurray: I saw that, we can finally clear that one out!
[14:44] <dbungert> I'm working on getting the patch to upstream also
[14:55] <smoser> if i missed the 7 day warning zone on "your membership is about to expire" (motu).... how do i go about asking for extended grace?
[14:58] <bdmurray> probably talk to somebody on the dmb
[21:08] <rbasak> mapreri: note that my alias @ubuntu.com isn't rbasak; it's racb or robie.basak. So I'm not party to the RT. If someone replies to me thinking I'll get it and I'm needed to help, please let me know. Otherwise I'll leave it alone.
[21:11] <mapreri> rbasak: that's so inconvenient :3  ACK, i'll try to remember for the future
[21:13] <mapreri> Sep  8 17:08:45 savidlin postfix/smtp[32753]: 177AEA1E3B<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=mx.canonical.com[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25, delay=0.33, delays=0.06/0.02/0.23/0.02, dsn=2.0
[21:13] <mapreri> .0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 64AB41A2ACB)
[21:13] <mapreri> rbasak: it was happily accepted though, is there somebody else behind that address? (?)
[21:13] <mapreri> (and I didn't get any bounce back)
[21:31] <rbasak> mapreri: hmm. How did I get your email in the first place then, in order to tell you that's not my alias? :-)
[21:31] <rbasak> Maybe it does go to me. I'm not sure how!
[21:32] <rbasak> I had assumed you had copied in a ML or something and that's how I saw it, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
[21:32] <rbasak> I have no idea why that alias works.
[21:32] <rbasak> It might be by accident because that's my Unix username on some of Canonical's systems or something.
[21:34] <rbasak> And sorry for the pain about this. Turns out @ubuntu.com aliases are supposed to map to Launchpad usernames and my Launchpad username predates my involvement as a Canonical employee / Ubuntu developer and Launchpad IDs can't be renamed without removing PPAs first.
[21:34] <rbasak> And now someone else has taken rbasak on Launchpad, so it doesn't seem worth sorting out now.
[21:40] <Unit193> You could simply /nick to the other. :>


[14:42] <mup> Bug #1976516 opened: maas-run-scripts report-results fails with `No script returned` <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 3.1:Triaged> <MAAS 3.2:Triaged> <MAAS 3.3:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1976516>
[21:18] <mup> Bug # changed: 1967899, 1975477, 1976194, 1976375
[21:33] <mup> Bug # opened: 1967899, 1975477, 1976194, 1976375
[21:36] <mup> Bug # changed: 1967899, 1975477, 1976194, 1976375


[10:08] <josh_> some one help me out with some thing
[10:08] <josh_> i am trying to install some thing for obs
[10:15] <Grutsch> hello
[10:16] <Grutsch> i guess
[11:29] <Grutsch> hello
[11:29] <Grutsch> can some one help me yet
[11:29] <Grutsch> just wondering
[11:31] <diogenes_Vx15> !ask | Grutsch
[11:36] <Grutsch> ok
[11:37] <Grutsch> i am tryin to install an obs plugin called ndi and i cant get it installed
[11:40] <diogenes_Vx15> Grutsch, what OBS version?
[11:40] <Grutsch> 30
[11:41] <Grutsch> heres where it takes me for the run time. https://github.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/blob/master/CI/libndi-get.sh
[11:43] <Grutsch> do i sh in terminal the file their or do i sh the file?
[11:43] <Grutsch> and how do i get the file
[11:43] <Grutsch> sorry i am new to this stuff
[11:48] <diogenes_Vx15> Grutsch, you need to dowload that file libndi-get.sh
[11:49] <diogenes_Vx15> make it executable: chmod +x libndi-get.sh
[11:49] <diogenes_Vx15> then run it like this: ./libndi-get.sh
[11:51] <Grutsch> ok
[11:55] <Grutsch> hey i ran it
[11:55] <Grutsch> but obs still says no run time found
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 /libndi@IrcsomeBot
 Download https://github.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/releases/download/4.13.0/obs-ndi-4.13.0-x86_64-linux-gnu.deb and type in terminal
 cd downloads && sudo dpkg -i obs-ndi-4.13.0-x86_64-linux-gnu.deb (re @IrcsomeBot: <Grutsch> heres where it takes me for the run time. https://github.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/blob/master/CI/libndi-get.sh)
 Download https://github.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/releases/download/4.13.0/obs-ndi-4.13.0-x86_64-linux-gnu.deb and type in terminal
 cd Downloads && sudo dpkg -i obs-ndi-4.13.0-x86_64-linux-gnu.deb (re @IrcsomeBot: <Grutsch> heres where it takes me for the run time. https://github.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/blob/master/CI/libndi-get.sh)
 Download https://github.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/releases/download/4.13.0/obs-ndi-4.13.0-x86_64-linux-gnu.deb and type in terminal
 cd Downloads && sudo dpkg -i obs-ndi-4.13.0-x86_64-linux-gnu.deb (re @IrcsomeBot: <Grutsch> heres where it takes me for the run time. https://github.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/blob/master/CI/libndi-get.sh)
 And then
 `bash
 curl -o- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/master/CI/libndi-get.sh | bash
 And then
 curl -o- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/obs-ndi/obs-ndi/master/CI/libndi-get.sh | bash
[18:06] <user|34> Minimum hardware to install


[01:58] <Guest28423> just installed 10.10 server... nova in the repos. nice
[01:59] <flaccid> nova?
[01:59] <Guest28423> openstack
[01:59] <flaccid> oh right cool
[01:59] <Guest28423> looks it 4 sure
[17:18] <mathiaz> smoser: hi!
[17:18] <smoser> yo
[17:18] <mathiaz> smoser: where is the list of the latest ami available?
[17:18] <mathiaz> smoser: I mean programatically accessible
[17:19] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/query
[17:21] <mathiaz> smoser: thanks!
[18:05] <mathiaz> smoser: what's the name of the ssh script that watches the syslog of a new instance for the fingerprint and then logs in?
[18:16] <smoser> uec-run-instances maybe ?
[18:16] <smoser> mathiaz, ^ (in cloud-utils). SpamapS wrote/heavily revised most of it
[20:38] <CharlieSu> All, I'm using an ELB to goto my webserver.. my webserver has an apache frontend which proxies requests to HAProxy, but It doesn't look like the X-Forward-For headers are being sent correctly.. They come in the the private IP for the ELB..   X-Forwarded-For: <IP_ADDRESS>   any ideas?
[22:00] <flaccid> charlieS: not technically an ubuntu-cloud question, see answer in #aws