[00:00] <iampoz> I have been messing around with trying to get these updates to work for a few days now
[00:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> It's also funny how debootstrap completely ignores you're missing the key, unless you notice the warning.
[00:00] <dimitry7> I erased it because I had no choise, apt-get nor aptitude worked
[00:00] <mathfreak> iampoz: I suppose that means you already ran sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, then?
[00:00] <iampoz> yes
[00:01] <mathfreak> iampoz: Okay. before we go on to check video drivers, can you tell me what happens when you press ctrl+alt+F7? Feel free to try ctrl+alt+F8/F6 as well
[00:01] <iampoz> although at the very end I get this: "[1]+  Stopped                 sudo apt-get update"
[00:01] <rtorres> buenas tardes
[00:02] <mathfreak> iampoz: That last line should be fine. It just tells you that it's done with what it was doing.
[00:02] <dimitry7> rtorres, buenas las tengas y mejor las pases
[00:03] <iampoz> ctrl alt f6 takes me to the screen with the command prompt asking to log in
[00:03] <iampoz> f7 and f8 does nothing
[00:04] <iampoz> I got back by sudo lightdm
[00:04] <dimitry7> rtorres, se espantó con el alb{ur
[00:04] <mathfreak> iampoz: What do you mean by getting back by sudo lightdm?
[00:05] <iampoz> back to the normal desktop or what I assumed to be called unity
[00:05] <SonikkuAmerica> iampoz: That's what it's called.
[00:05] <reisio> presumably he restarted lightdm
[00:05] <iampoz> yup, thats what I think i did
[00:05] <iampoz> f6 must stop lightdm
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> iampoz: ... F6 alone?
[00:06] <iampoz> sorry, ctrl alt f6
[00:06] <mathfreak> iampoz: Oh, no no. ctrl+alt+(function key) just brings you to another session (I forgot the exact vocabulary for it).
[00:06] <rtorres> alguien que sepa eliminar carpetas con error "Permission denied"
[00:06] <mathfreak> iampoz: It's handy when you want to use additional terminals when a graphical desktop isn't available.
[00:07] <user__> Is there an easy way to encrypt after installation of ubuntu 13.....
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> iampoz: See mathfreak 's comment. From there it's a service stop.
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> iam(and restart)
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> iampoz: ^ That.
[00:07] <iampoz> oh i see
[00:08] <vlt> !es | rtorres
[00:08] <mathfreak> iampoz: I have the feeling that it might be something with your mounts at boot that's preventing lightdm from starting. Hopefully, someone a bit more knowledgeable than I can confirm this.
[00:08] <vlt> rtorres: `sudo <comando>`
[00:08] <iampoz> right now unity is working... I have not performed the full update from the update manager, first it said 59 avaiable, the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade took it down to 16 available
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> user__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostInstallationEncryption
[00:09] <rtorres> vlt soy root
[00:09] <iampoz> I am already afraid that when I reboot it wont work... and I will have to restore back to an image I saved a few weeks ago
[00:09] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I installed chromium on my Ubuntu 12.04. It somehow activated some keyring password. Now everytime I login into my machine I have to enter that keyring password. What is it? and how can I disable it?
[00:09] <mathfreak> iampoz: One thing before we update, can we look at your /etc/fstab file?
[00:10] <rtorres> vlt:rm -Rf client1
[00:10] <rtorres> rm: cannot remove `client1/web1/tmp': Permission denied
[00:10] <vlt> rtorres: Are you on a virtual server? Or does root just no have the permission to <whatever you tried> with <maybe a file>?
[00:10] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: Probably the GNOME keyring. Did you set it to something different than your username and password?
[00:10] <rtorres> no a virtual server, im root in this machine
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: s/username and/<nothing>
[00:11] <vlt> rtorres: Is something else mounted into ...tmp?
[00:11] <iampoz> mathfreak: http://pastebin.com/MPcvUsUC
[00:11] <rtorres> is a dictory into /var/www
[00:12] <rtorres> directory
[00:13] <rtorres> the directory permissions is www-data www-data 4096 Aug  8 03:11 clients
[00:13] <mathfreak> iampoz: I'll honestly say that I have no idea what caused that /tmp mount issue at boot. You can update your system now.
[00:13] <mathfreak> iampoz: Feel free to ask others about the /tmp mount issue, though.
[00:14] <iampoz> well I will try rebooting, if it works then I will update the remaining 16 and hope it reboots after that
[00:14] <vlt> rtorres: What does `stat client1/web1/tmp` say?
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> rtorres: Ummm, those are not permissions. Try [ ls -la /var/www ] ]
[00:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Here's a good example: https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/
[00:14] <iampoz> if not then I will probobly be back sunday... I have to leave shortly... Thanks for your help mathfreak
[00:14] <rtorres> root@apolo:/var/www# stat clients/
[00:14] <rtorres>   File: `clients/'
[00:14] <rtorres>   Size: 4096      	Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   directory
[00:14] <rtorres> Device: ca01h/51713d	Inode: 2949723     Links: 3
[00:14] <rtorres> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx)  Uid: (   33/www-data)   Gid: (   33/www-data)
[00:15] <rtorres> Access: 2013-08-23 23:52:06.000000000 +0000
[00:15] <FloodBot1> rtorres: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <rtorres> Modify: 2013-08-08 03:11:02.000000000 +0000
[00:15] <rtorres> Change: 2013-08-23 23:51:40.000000000 +0000
[00:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> Arguably they link to the plain 'http' page for some reason I can't really grok.
[00:15] <c2tarun> SonikkuAmerica, hi, its my system password only, still I have to enter it everytime
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> rtorres: Please use the pastebin that ubottu mentioned.
[00:16] <rtorres> ok
[00:16] <rtorres> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6019725/
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: Hmmm... Open seahorse (Passwords and Keys)...
[00:17] <c2tarun> SonikkuAmerica, yeah, I can see "Passwords: login"
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> rtorres: Your permissions are 0777 (all read/write/list)
[00:18] <rtorres> Yes, but try deleting though, it gives me error
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: http://askubuntu.com/questions/867/how-can-i-stop-being-prompted-to-unlock-the-default-keyring-on-boot/224777#224777
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: Follow the instructions on that particular post.
[00:19] <c2tarun> SonikkuAmerica, ahh... great. thanks a lot
[00:20] <user__> Is there an easy way to encrypt after installation of ubuntu 13.....
[00:21] <rtorres> any idea?
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> c2tarun: BUT: Instead of leaving the login password blank, set it to the same password you use to log into the computer.
[00:21] <mathfreak> user__: What are you trying to encrypt? Just a single file?
[00:22] <user__> No, the entire drive.
[00:22] <vlt> rtorres: What about providing answers to questions first?
[00:23] <rtorres> sorry, did not understand the question
[00:23] <mathfreak> user__: I'm not sure how to encrypt the entire drive after installing Ubuntu. Sorry.
[00:24] <user__> mathfreak, thank you for responding,  I appreciate your time.
[00:24] <vlt> rtorres: What does `stat client1/web1/tmp` say?
[00:25] <mathfreak> user__: If the install is a fresh install, you can try re-installing the OS while ticking the checkbox for full disk encryption, though.
[00:25] <rtorres> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6019746/
[00:26] <user__> mathfreak, yes thank  you, that maybe what I will do.
[00:31] <vlt> rtorres: It’s a directory. Is it empty?
[00:32] <anonymous> help
[00:32] <Guest10763> okei
[00:32] <rtorres> yes, it empty
[00:33] <wiak> any way to trace bootup?
[00:33] <wiak> my ubuntu is slow to boot into system
[00:33] <wiak> :/
[00:41] <OerHeks> wiak, install bootchart
[00:41] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[00:43] <netlar> I have a printer set up already, but want to be able to scan with it too.  How can I add the printer as a scanner too?
[00:44] <PoolShark_> I'm having an issue with a RAID array. I can't mount it in /etc/fstab by UUID because for some reason linux is detecting a UUID from /dev/md0 that is not the correct one.. see here: http://pastebin.com/2EvxxULq
[00:44] <netlar> never mind, it works
[00:45] <PoolShark_> If I put the array's UUID in fstab I get a "serious error" with the array on startup and it falls to a shell... if I use the UUID reported by blkid I get a "no such array" message
[00:50] <rtorres> vlt any idea?
[00:52] <ke-esc> Hi all.. Just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my  Dell XPS12.. It has an interesting security feature- when I boot the computer, it starts up with the screen completely dimmed and I have to Fn+F5 to increase the brightness.. any way I can disable this "feature"?
[00:53] <daftykins> ke-esc: perhaps the first two links can help: https://www.google.com/search?q=dell%20xps12%20ubuntu%2013.04%20screen%20brightness%20off%20at%20boot&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&source=hp
[00:55] <daftykins> ke-esc: this bug specifically: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1177963
[00:55] <ke-esc> looking now, thanks
[00:56] <daftykins> ke-esc: post #9 suggests adding the boot parameter "acpi_backlight=vendor"
[00:58] <ke-esc> okay, lets give this a try. thank you daftykins
[00:59] <netlar> Are there any database programs similar to filemaker on linux?
[01:01] <bobapplepie> is KDE a lightweight DE?
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> bobapplepie: It's lighter than it was, but no.
[01:02] <bobapplepie> is it lighter than unity?
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> bobapplepie: No.
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> bobapplepie: Almost anything (but GNOME 3) is lighter than KDE.
[01:03] <bobapplepie> ok
[01:03] <reisio> I'd say they are of quite similar "weight"
[01:03] <reisio> GNOME/Unity and KDE
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> reisio: At this point I'd guess Unity is lighter than GNOME
[01:05] <LMessi10__> Hello everyone, I have a question. I have a not so new netbook, it is 1.6GHz and 2MB of RAM with HD of 140GB... it is currently with Windows XP, but I was thinking on switching to Linux. Do you guys think Xubuntu 13.04 will have a better performance on it? Or should I stick with XP or maybe a different version of Linux? Thanks,
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> LMessi10__: I hope not 2 MB O_o
[01:09] <daftykins> LMessi10__: Xubuntu should be quite a good move, maybe even one of the Linux Mint versions. you could definitely do with getting off XP since support ends in April.
[01:09] <LMessi10__> SonikkuAmerica, haha I meant 2GB haha
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> LMessi10__: Yeah, Xubuntu is good.
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins: FLAME TIME for mentioning the M-word. :)
[01:10] <Haggard> Hey guys, had a power outage here that took my systems down.  Enjoy Xubuntu! http://xubuntu.org
[01:15] <codepython777> does anyone know what vm does Pubuntu use?
[01:16] <perrshp> pubuntu?
[01:16] <daftykins> dread to think what that ubuntu variant is themed after...
[01:17] <codepython777> perrshp: I'm looking to run ubuntu on windows
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> codepython777: VBox? VMware? Other hypervisor?
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !vm | codepython777
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> SchrodingersScat: F19 much? :)
[01:20] <SchrodingersScat> SonikkuAmerica: huh?
[01:20] <rtorres> help, how to remove a directory that I have root access but it says permission denied
[01:20] <SonikkuAmerica> SchrodingersScat: Your nick is a portmanteau of the Fedora 19 codename
[01:25] <lapion> so can anyone tell me if the recent usb revelation by ms. Sarah Sharp ( very sharp indeed ) will change the policy of disabling hibernation by default?
[01:26] <codepython777> SonikkuAmerica: I need something that will run without installation. portable.
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> codepython777: Can you elaborate?
[01:27] <lapion> and if so if there will be an update to patch this for all affected versions?
[01:28] <White`Rabbit> coupons to buy for 0.4 instead of 0.5, that's a joke right?
[01:28] <travis_> Is there anyone that can help me with a raid issue? I accidentally formatted /dev/mapper/isw_cbdacacdde_Volume0p1. I can still see one of the partitions that was on the array but thats it
[01:29] <White`Rabbit> never got any coupons, bought at 1.05 and now get the awesome right to buy new ones for 0.4 instead of 0.5.. woaw... that surely reduces the average per chip :x
[01:29] <codepython777> SonikkuAmerica: I need to take it with me on a usb drive
[01:29] <White`Rabbit> 0.4 discount to get new ones at 0.1 would balance the average to 0.5!
[01:29] <lapion> travis_, what raid level?
[01:29] <travis_> Raid 10
[01:30] <travis_> "fakeraid"
[01:30] <travis_> I could access all of the partitions up until I rebooted the machine yesterday
[01:31] <lapion> depends if the raid synched the changes
[01:32] <travis_> I'm sure by now it has
[01:32] <travis_> This happened like a month ago
[01:32] <johnjohn101> i hope u had a backup.
[01:32] <travis_> I do
[01:32] <travis_> :P
[01:32] <travis_> Well, of the important stuff at least
[01:33] <travis_> Home partition will roll back a week at least
[01:33] <lapion> all you can do is use photorec to recover nameless files for anyy unbackupped files
[01:33] <travis_> but no biggy
[01:33] <travis_> hmm, at this point I think I'll just throw in the towel
[01:34] <travis_> I have backups :P
[01:34] <Extreminador> where can i edit the left click menu that pop's up in e17 desktop environment ?
[01:35] <lapion> much better whish i could say the same of my systems.. any backups are older then a year
[01:36] <SchrodingersScat> lapion: better get on top of that
[01:36] <travis_> Funny thing is, this happened when I bought my new 3TB drive
[01:36] <travis_> for backups
[01:36] <travis_> Gparted was being a dick when I went to format
[01:37] <travis_> and jump to my raid array
[01:37] <travis_> >,<
[01:37] <travis_> But luckily I made a full backup of my machine :D
[01:38] <travis_> Anyways, thanks!
[01:40] <travis_> One more thing, should I go with "fakeraid" again or use software raid :O
[01:43] <lapion> same difference
[01:44] <SoulRaven> hello
[01:44] <SoulRaven> plase help me with something
[01:44] <SoulRaven> i am try to restart the network services
[01:44] <samijam> This bug says a fix was released on May 1, but there's never been an update that includes it for 13.04.  Is there some way I can get this fix?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/883272
[01:44] <SoulRaven> but is not working
[01:45] <SoulRaven> i have tryed: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1629400643
[01:45] <SoulRaven> but is not working
[01:47] <dsnyders> doesn't linux have the sweep command?
[01:49] <OerHeks> SoulRaven, sudo service network-manager restart
[01:49] <Jordan_U> travis_: Definitely go with mdraid rather than FakeRAID>
[01:50] <travis_> Thats my plan :3
[01:50] <travis_> Just wanted to see if anyone was thinking the same :3
[01:50] <OerHeks> Sweep is an audio editor, you want to cleanup settings with uninstall --purge or cleanup your system with  a tool like bleachit ?
[01:53] <travis_> time to go kill a raid array
[01:53] <travis_> thanks again
[01:54] <dsnyders> Is there an equivalent to the sweep command (run a command in each subdirectory)?
[01:55] <elton_> can someone help me, i have a monitor that supports 1680by900 but ubuntu only detects it up to 1024x768 is this fixable?
[01:57] <daftykins> elton_: i'm pretty certain that resolution doesn't exist. maybe 1680x1050 or 1600x900
[01:58] <gooberluvr> Who can recommend a good gui interface for ubuntu server - I use webmin now.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: find's -exec can probably be made to do what you want. I've never heard of sweep before though, can you link to a man page for it?
[02:33] <wiak> ooh snap
[02:33] <wiak> <- messed up gpt/mbr
[02:33] <wiak> wreel
[02:33] <wiak> anyhow, its a laptop so nothing on it is useful
[02:33] <wiak> :P
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> !enter > wiak
[02:46] <pawan> hi
[02:46] <pawan> disk check on every boot
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> pawan, Have you stopped it everytime?
[02:53] <codepython777> is there a way to run ubuntu inside win 7 without installing? (portable version)
[02:53] <pawan> no
[02:54] <SchrodingersScat> codepython777: like a virtual machine?
[02:54] <holstein> codepython777: a live CD.. in virtualbox.. is not technically installed, and is "inside" virtualbox in windows
[02:54] <codepython777> SchrodingersScat: yes, without install
[02:55] <codepython777> holstein: vbox needs to be installed,right?
[02:55] <holstein> codepython777: just run the live CD in virtualization, and dont install it
[02:55] <SchrodingersScat> oh, like a portable version of vbox?
[02:55] <codepython777> give me a virtualization software for windows - that does not need install
[02:55] <holstein> codepython777: you'll need a virtualization platform to run virtulization, yes
[02:55] <codepython777> SchrodingersScat: There is one, that is unmaintained.
[02:55] <holstein> codepython777: give you?
[02:55] <holstein> codepython777: this is a volunteer channel for ubuntu.. i would ask the windows channel to see what they have to "give" you
[02:56] <codepython777> holstein: I was hoping someone needed portable ubuntu for windows here.
[02:56] <holstein> codepython777: a live CD is portable
[02:56] <SchrodingersScat> codepython777: I thought your problem was you needed a portable VM software within windows
[02:57] <codepython777> SchrodingersScat: indeed.
[02:57] <codepython777> SchrodingersScat: Something that is maintained and works
[02:57] <holstein> codepython777: whats the issue? no admin acces to a windows machine? can you boot a USB stick? or cd?
[02:57] <holstein> codepython777: ubuntu is maintained, and works..
[02:57] <SchrodingersScat> codepython777: not the same thing as a portable ubuntu, that's all I'm saying, sounds like your problem exists with windows
[02:57] <codepython777> holstein: cant boot these machines, and no admin access
[02:58] <holstein> codepython777: then, you need to address that.. *all* of these tools are freely available to you
[02:58] <holstein> codepython777: you'll need to have access to be able to use them..
[02:58] <chiques> has anyone installed clipgrab lately? Everything Google brings up has the same URL and it's not responding (404)
[02:59] <pawan> hi
[03:01] <reisio> chiques: I wonder how it compares to youtube-dl
[03:02] <SchrodingersScat> chiques: i also use youtube-dl, so unless youtube-dl happens to not work for the site you want, you should check it out.
[03:03] <chiques> SchrodingersScat, Thanks
[03:09] <outofsync> i have an old Pentium IV laptop and smplayer can play 720p videos but audio is 3 seconds ahead of video. How can i fix this issue? My OS is Trisquel 6 based on Ubuntu 12.04.
[03:09] <issuewithlivecd> hi, im having an issue with the ubuntu 13.04 livecd. On ubuntu, i get stuck in tty1 (and if i try and type startx I get an error saying no screens detected). My log file says VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range (then some other stuff) and a "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" error. Does anyone here know how to fix it, or will I forever be stuck on windows :(  btw the graphics card is a Radeon HD 8400
[03:09] <outofsync> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go] (rev a3)    I use the default nouveau drivers
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> outofsync, That OS is not supported here.
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> outofsync, Try #trisquel
[03:13] <outofsync> wilee-nilee, i did
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> outofsync, Cool, this channel does not support derivatives is all there is #linux if your registered
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> ##linux
[03:18] <pvl1> in a hybrid graphics system, do i have to use the i915 intel driver, cant i just tell it to use fglrx all the way? i installed propriety driver
[03:21] <holstein> pvl1: depends..
[03:23] <pvl1> holstein: on?
[03:24] <holstein> pvl1: chipsets.. driver support.. bios.. many many things.. what *actual* hardware you have.. if the vendor allows it to be controlled by linux
[03:24] <issuewithlivecd> hi, im having an issue with the ubuntu 13.04 livecd. I get stuck in tty1 (and if i try and type startx I get an error saying no screens detected). My log file says VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range (then some other stuff) and a "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" error. The graphics card is a Radeon HD 8400 graphics card (1366 x 768 resolution) . If you can help it would be very appreciated
[03:24] <holstein> issuewithlivecd: you mean, you switch to tty and cant swtich back?
[03:25] <pvl1> holstein: should i go back to trying to flgrx in the repos?
[03:26] <holstein> pvl1: i dont think anything in the repos is allowed to support it
[03:26] <issuewithlivecd> @holstein the ubuntu loading bar moves, and instead of loading the desktop environment (where you get the option between trying and installing) it just loads tty1. Switching to tty7/xwindow just gives me a black screen, and when I type startx in tty1 it gives me an error
[03:26] <rich_> hi
[03:26] <holstein> pvl1: i would look for other users doing what you want with the hardware you have
[03:26] <pvl1> holstein: well the root of my problem is the fact that im getting all buncha weird errors trying to use the propriety driver
[03:27] <holstein> pvl1: like?
[03:27] <pvl1> holstein: my problem started with the fact that my laptop would get hot even using gnome fallback without graphics
[03:27] <pvl1> so i figured i should change the driver
[03:27] <holstein> pvl1: getting hot is not "a buncha weird errors", though
[03:27] <reisio> show me a laptop that doesn't get hot and I'll show you a rich man
[03:27] <holstein> pvl1: you many want to revert back to that setup
[03:28] <pvl1> holstein:
[03:28] <holstein> !steam | pvl1
[03:29] <holstein> pvl1: ^ i link that because steam suggests a PPA for newer drivers
[03:29] <holstein> pvl1: ppas are not supported officially, however
[03:29] <pvl1> holstein: so after updating to the latest kernel, my last errors from dmesg state  that there is an error  with the driver
[03:29] <pvl1> hm
[03:29] <pvl1> ima look into this holstein thank you
[03:30] <n28714> ello?
[03:30] <n28714> someone private chat me? i need of assistance
[03:31] <SchrodingersScat> !ask > n28714
[03:31] <dw_> qwer
[03:31] <n28714> -_-
[03:31] <n28714> Someone private chat me?
[03:31] <pvl1> issuewithlivecd: id check the bios graphics settings perhaps?
[03:32] <WallFace> Hi, I just plugged in HDMI from computer to TV, and now my TV is my computer monitor, how do I get them to show the same thing?
[03:33] <WallFace> It shows different work stations and I can't get them to join the same
[03:33] <reisio> WallFace: what graphics/drivers?
[03:33] <WallFace> I don't think it matters?
[03:33] <WallFace> I'm not sure, i see my desktop, and I see the lefft with all the icons
[03:34] <WallFace> I just don't see what I'm looking at
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> WallFace: the display properties don't help you?
[03:35] <root_gnewsense_o> hi
[03:35] <WallFace> How do I get to them SchrodingersScat
[03:35] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: hiyo
[03:35] <root_gnewsense_o> I built the kernel for gnewsense, fast and sleek
[03:36] <n28714> i seem to have a problem on ubuntu 13.04, my network-manager is gone and going under system settings >Network gives me an error called "The system network serviced are not compatible with this version"
[03:36] <root_gnewsense_o>  but ONLY in recovery mode
[03:36] <n28714> i typed in a cmd and it vanished, i tried rebooting
[03:36] <root_gnewsense_o> how do I copy the to "live" boot ?
[03:36] <reisio> n28714: cmd? vanished?
[03:36] <root_gnewsense_o> I guess I was working in a RAM disk
[03:36] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: where is it now?
[03:37] <n28714> anyone mind helping?
[03:37] <reisio> you'll have to answer questions to get help
[03:37] <root_gnewsense_o> in a virtual machine on an xp host
[03:37] <n28714> -_- what questions?
[03:38] <n28714> well?
[03:38] <reisio> n28714: seven lines ago? :)
[03:39] <reisio> n28714: cmd? vanished?
[03:39] <root_gnewsense_o> ubuntu was no roblem at all
[03:39] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: and where's the system you want to copy it to?
[03:39] <n28714> ._.
[03:39] <root_gnewsense_o> I guess in a ram disk
[03:40] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: you want to modify a kernel for a live OS?
[03:40] <root_gnewsense_o> the normal boot does not have my kernel changes
[03:40] <n28714> :/
[03:40] <n28714> well no ones gonna help
[03:40] <WallFace> HA
[03:40] <WallFace> Nice
[03:40] <WallFace> got it working
[03:40] <root_gnewsense_o> gnewsense can boot in normal or "recovery" mode
[03:40] <caviezel> Whats up people!
[03:41] <reisio> wallzero: gj
[03:41] <reisio> wallzero: sorry, that guy leaves fast :p
[03:41] <reisio> caviezel: suppah
[03:41] <root_gnewsense_o> recovery mode I built in the changes I need, and with startx it works as I want
[03:41] <root_gnewsense_o> fully working
[03:41] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: okay where did you build the kernel? Where did you place it?
[03:42] <caviezel> Just chilling watching Jimmy Kimmel.
[03:42] <root_gnewsense_o> vboxadd createss the new kernel
[03:42] <root_gnewsense_o> but I asume in a ram disk
[03:42] <root_gnewsense_o> which is lost on reboot
[03:42] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: vboxadd?
[03:43] <root_gnewsense_o> virtual box build tool, i'm running XP as a host
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> caviezel, If you want to chat #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:44] <caviezel> Ok
[03:44] <caviezel> My bad.
[03:44] <root_gnewsense_o> I had to explicitly donload the kernel headers etc...
[03:44] <root_gnewsense_o> but it runs fine
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> caviezel, wasn't sure what you wanted just info
[03:44] <root_gnewsense_o> I guess this is a normal problem across flavous
[03:44] <root_gnewsense_o> of linux
[03:44] <n28714> Anyone help? - i seem to have a problem on ubuntu 13.04, my network-manager is gone and going under system settings >Network gives me an error called "The system network serviced are not compatible with this version"
[03:45] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: not really following you, but if you built something related to a kernel, it exists in a file system somewhere
[03:45] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: you need only copy it from there to where you want it
[03:45] <root_gnewsense_o> does ubuntu have recovery mode ?
[03:45] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: using scp would probably be simple, as would be using VirtualBox's guest additions to mount a share
[03:45] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: yes
[03:46] <root_gnewsense_o> yes I thought the whole point of recovery was to change the REAL system
[03:46] <reisio> you should still be accessing the "real" system in recovery mode
[03:46] <reisio> just less of it at once
[03:46] <root_gnewsense_o> VirtualBox's guest additions is what I want in the normal mode
[03:47] <uronu> good day! May I ask what is the best tools for file sharing?
[03:47] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: oh is that all?
[03:47] <root_gnewsense_o> it seems to forget all my work (because I am only modifying the RAM disk)
[03:47] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: http://wvarner.blogspot.com/2008/05/installing-virtualbox-guest-additions.html
[03:48] <root_gnewsense_o> I have installed it
[03:48] <root_gnewsense_o> and USED it
[03:48] <reisio> okay
[03:48] <root_gnewsense_o> in the RAM diisk
[03:48] <n28714> anyone gonna help me?
[03:48] <reisio> root_gnewsense_o: those instructions should work in the "real" environment
[03:48] <reisio> n28714: with what?
[03:48] <n28714> i seem to have a problem on ubuntu 13.04, my network-manager is gone and going under system settings >Network gives me an error called "The system network serviced are not compatible with this version"
[03:49] <n28714> priv chat
[03:49] <root_gnewsense_o> ok thanks I will check them out
[03:49] <reisio> n28714: what version of Ubuntu?
[03:56] <root_gnewsense_o> they would work in normal mode, IF I was in it
[03:56] <root_gnewsense_o> I cannot get into it, becuase my mouse and keyboard dont work in normal mode
[03:57] <root_gnewsense_o> if I could break into a terminal in "normal" mode that would be cool
[03:58] <root_gnewsense_o> can to stop ubunyu or gnewsense from running startx ?
[03:59] <holstein> !text
[03:59] <root_gnewsense_o> cool
[03:59] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: ^ .. though i would ask in a gnusense channel for that
[03:59] <root_gnewsense_o> I did not popular
[04:00] <root_gnewsense_o> i'm running ubuntu to chat here ;O)
[04:00] <root_gnewsense_o> oh I lie i'm running gnewsense in recovery mode !
[04:01] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[04:01] <root_gnewsense_o> so many OS's
[04:01] <root_gnewsense_o> thanks <holstein>
[04:02] <root_gnewsense_o> while I am here what is the opinion og ubuntu versus gnewsense ?
[04:03] <root_gnewsense_o> I found ubuntu slow and greedy
[04:04] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: this is the ubuntu support channel.. you are free to compare the 2.. ubuntu has other official versions, such as lubuntu, that are "lighter".. ubuntu is not intended to be light
[04:05] <holstein> !lubuntu
[04:05] <root_gnewsense_o> is gnewsense new ? I'm not biased, yet
[04:06] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: its just not supported here, friend..
[04:06] <root_gnewsense_o> not allow to chat about anyhing other ?
[04:06] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: you are mentioning an OS that is not supported, or discussed here. .you can try and instigate a discussion about it in the channel i suggested. otherwise, this is ubuntu support
[04:07] <root_gnewsense_o> I'm trying to decide
[04:07] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: correct.. please see the /topic and visit #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[04:07] <root_gnewsense_o> ok i'm not wanted ;O(
[04:07] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: that is *not* the case at all
[04:08] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: non-ubuntu support is not wanted here.. but, is freely welcome in the channel i suggested, and the /topic suggests officially
[04:09] <root_gnewsense_o> but there are no users there
[04:09] <developer> as a php developer what should i know about ubuntu
[04:09] <root_gnewsense_o> to chat or not to chat, that is the question
[04:09] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: then, you are in the incorrect channel
[04:09] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: #ubuntu-offtopic is busy, right now.. and you are not in it
[04:10] <root_gnewsense_o> there is the rub
[04:10] <root_gnewsense_o> it's all LINUX, I have never seen so much falvourism
[04:10] <root_gnewsense_o> get a grip
[04:11] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: ?
[04:11] <holstein> !guidelines | root_gnewsense_o
[04:11] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: i am welcoming you to the appropriate channel.. its in an effort to provide better support here.. you can do *exactly* what you want in the appropriate channel
[04:12] <root_gnewsense_o> even if there is no one there
[04:12] <root_gnewsense_o> cool
[04:12] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: you are not there
[04:12] <root_gnewsense_o> I am in there
[04:12] <anton02> how do u remove a package thats causing segfault on startup due to bad modules if u cant boot into linux
[04:12] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: no, you are not
[04:13] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: it is #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <root_gnewsense_o> #gnewsense AND gnewsense-dev
[04:13] <holstein> root_gnewsense_o: and i think you are in the incorrect channel.. it is quite busy and you are not there
[04:13] <anton02> gnewsense is a nuisance
[04:13] <anton02> how do u remove a package thats causing segfault on startup due to bad modules if u cant boot into linux
[04:13] <R0b0t1> What's default perms for /etc
[04:13] <holstein> anton02: that comment goes in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel as well.. and please dont repeat
[04:13] <R0b0t1> I accidentally
[04:14] <root_gnewsense_o> I thought off channel would be even worse than On channel
[04:14] <R0b0t1> Also, how do I chmod /etc if I can't sudo
[04:14] <anton02> robot: su
[04:15] <R0b0t1> I don't know root's pass
[04:15] <holstein> R0b0t1: recover it
[04:15] <R0b0t1> how?
[04:15] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[04:16] <root_gnewsense_o> i'll go there I seem to have upset you here, that was NOT my intent, thanks for your help anyway
[04:17] <anton02> how come when i enter recovery mode the root filesystem is read only. kind of defeats the purpose doesnt it
[04:17] <R0b0t1> alright thanks
[04:17] <holstein> anton02: whats the question? how to mount to write?
[04:17] <R0b0t1> holstein, what are the permissions for /etc?
[04:17] <holstein> anton02: mount -rw -o remount /
[04:18] <anton02> holstein: its already mounted
[04:18] <holstein> R0b0t1: what are you trying to do?
[04:18] <R0b0t1> fix it
[04:18] <anton02> oh i didnt see remount
[04:19] <XReaper> lolbuntu
[04:19] <anton02> R0b01: are u too lazy to reset the admin password?
[04:20] <holstein> anton02: i think R0b0t1 is going to fix it..
[04:20] <anton02> XReaper: lolarch
[04:20] <R0b0t1> anton02, I can't, because my permissions on /etc are wrong, which prevents me from sudoing, which prevents me from changing the permissions on /etc
[04:20] <R0b0t1> so
[04:20] <R0b0t1> you see my dilemma
[04:21] <holstein> R0b0t1: you recover the password with the link i gave..
[04:21] <anton02> how did etc permissions get changed
[04:21] <R0b0t1> yeah
[04:21] <R0b0t1> anton02: I accidentally
[04:21] <R0b0t1> now, pls sir, what are you permissions on /etc
[04:21] <R0b0t1> 755?
[04:21] <R0b0t1> yes 755
[04:22] <anton02> R0bot1: you could boot a live disk that gives you sudo permissions
[04:22] <holstein> R0b0t1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123341/what-are-the-standard-file-permissions-for-the-etc-directoryfile
[04:23] <KxTwo> Anyone rune ps3media server?
[04:23] <anton02> R0b0t1: its not like u can change them before u get root access anyways
[04:24] <anton02> is there an IRC channel for discussion of cracking WPA
[04:25] <holstein> !backtrack | anton02
[04:32] <momodi> hi, everyone
[04:33] <momodi> anyone here
[04:33] <muellisoft> yes
[04:33] <DuncanNZ> momodi: yeah, just ask your question
[04:33] <anton02> yes im here
[04:34] <lilcyber> hello
[04:36] <reisio> 'lo lilcyber
[04:36] <dylan> hello
[04:36] <lilcyber> What's up reisio?
[04:36] <DamianDarc> can anyone help me im having problems booting into ubuntu after a fresh install
[04:37] <DamianDarc> the system hangs on a black screen with a flashing white underscore
[04:37] <holstein> !nomodeset
[04:37] <DamianDarc> thanks ill let you know the results in a but
[04:38] <momodi> there always is a title bar on chromium, how can I make it disappear. I'm using Xubuntu 13.04.
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> momodi, I believe it is in the preferences
[04:39] <holstein> momodi: you can try right click on the window decoration and "use system title bar and borders".. or yeah, i think its in the menu somewhere too
[04:39] <apb1963_> Ubuntu Packages - For whatever reason, Ubuntu has stopped updating Kismet in their repositories.
[04:40] <DamianDarc> the thing about this is it seem to require me to get to the grub boot loader, my system won't even get to that
[04:40] <DamianDarc> it works fine on the live cd though
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, You using the shift key to show grub?
[04:40] <holstein> apb1963_: they dont just roll.. you get security updates.. i think firefox tries to roll now but thats it AFAIK..
[04:40] <momodi> I searched a lot about this, finally I found a software "maximus" can do this, but maximus do this on my all apps, I only want this works on chromium
[04:40] <apb1963_> roll?
[04:41] <holstein> momodi: you tried unticking the box?
[04:41] <DamianDarc> yes grub won't event load
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> rollimg release
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> rolling*
[04:41] <DamianDarc> im using 13.04
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, Have you modified grub and are you pressing that key as soon as you power on?
[04:41] <holstein> apb1963_: rolling releases just get new packages as they come and are released.. ubuntu is more of a frozen in time kind of thing
[04:42] <apb1963_> ok, that makes sense holstein
[04:42] <holstein> DamianDarc: i would test the hardware at that point.. did you get a live desktop to come up?
[04:42] <DamianDarc> I have not modified grub at all ys im pressing this key from when it turns on.  This is after a fresh install and there were no errors in the install
[04:42] <apb1963_> So is that why kismet isn't being updated?
[04:43] <holstein> apb1963_: thats what im suggesting that only security updates to that version will come in, as for all packages
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, Did you install with a usb, and is there more than one HD?
[04:43] <apb1963_> ok
[04:43] <holstein> apb1963_: folks add ppa's, which are unsupported officially, for newer packages
[04:43] <DamianDarc> there are 2 Hard drives, a sata an an IDE one I installe using a disk
[04:43] <apb1963_> ppa's?
[04:43] <holstein> !ppa | apb1963_
[04:44] <apb1963_> got it
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, Grub might be in the secondary HD's mbr, try boot either.
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> booting*
[04:45] <DamianDarc> alright give me a moment
[04:46] <DamianDarc> AHA! I booted from seond hard drive and it worked
[04:47] <apb1963_> so... is there a recommendation for a wireless package?  I don't have any particular objective in mind other than to see what's out on the airwaves I guess?  Make sure my card is working, learn a little maybe.  Nothing too intense, just some light spying I guess maybe?  One thing for sure, I'd like to see what my own router is putting out.
[04:47] <holstein> apb1963_: no
[04:47] <DamianDarc> Thank so much
[04:47] <reisio> lilcyber: playing with pipelight for netflix
[04:47] <apb1963_> ok
[04:47] <holstein> apb1963_: you can try something like backtrack or kali which are not supported here and ot
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> DamianDarc, Cool you can make sure that the drive it is on is the has grub is inn its mbr with sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  X is that HD's letter like sda or sdb .
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> just run a sudo update-grub afterward
[04:49] <apb1963_> I took a quick look at iwconfig and iwspy... said "hmm..."  and started poking around for info on the net.... TMI... nothing stuck out at me.
[04:49] <jorvis> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu with Gnome3 and things were working great until I had to deal with NetworkManager - When I click it and then choose "Network Settings" I wait and nothing happens at all.  Nothing ever comes up.  Is there a lot somewhere I should be checking?
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, This the gnome 3 version I forget the name or an additional desktop?
[04:51] <jorvis> wilee-nilee:  not sure of the distinction.  I just didn't like Unity and followed a tutorial to install gnome-shell instead
[04:52] <apb1963_> nah, those are penetration tools.. I guess I'm looking for more of a discovery tool
[04:52] <apb1963_> I want the discovery channel :)
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Not sure why its not showing the network settings, however the secondary desktop will use what you have done in the unity desktop for example a autologin to wifi,.
[04:52] <holstein> apb1963_: those tools will be at those resources as well, and ot and unsupported here
[04:52] <lilcyber> discovery channel is awesome
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Can I see that tutorial?
[04:53] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: Yeah, it's autoconnecting my wireless just fine.  I just need to set up VPN now
[04:53] <apb1963_> you mean discovery is included in the packages?
[04:53] <apb1963_> so what's supported?
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> lilcyber, #ubuntu-offtopic is your place
[04:54] <holstein> apb1963_: i mean, your desktop operating system is working as promised.. the tools you are looking for are at the sources i have suggested
[04:54] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome
[04:54] <SchrodingersScat>  apb1963_ what are you trying to do exactly?
[04:54] <lilcyber> alright thanks wilee-nilee
[04:54] <anton02> ehci-pci xhci-jcd causing seg fault. wat do
[04:54] <slixz85> anyone know of them troll fuckers?
[04:54] <slixz85> yeah you and you
[04:54] <slixz85> come to newly created #trollcombat
[04:55] <apb1963_> SchrodingersScat: See what's out there... see what my router is putting out on the airwaves.... and if anyone else is out there...
[04:56] <apb1963_> and see if my card is doing what it's supposed to be doing
[04:56] <holstein> apb1963_: and, none of that is a feature of ubuntu, so its OT here, and not supported, but, you should explore kali if interested
[04:56] <apb1963_> ok, thank you
[04:56] <holstein> apb1963_: you are online.. thats what the manufacterer said it would do
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Only problem is that is a ppa, officially not supported here, the gnome shell 3.6 is in the repos. If you need to remove it use ppapurge
[04:56] <apb1963_> I'm not using the wireless to get online
[04:57] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: that's scary at this point, I'm about to travel for a week and don't want to break everything right before I go.  Are there no logs for network manager I can check?
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Does not mean no one will help, I'm just not sure of the fix is all.
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, I tried the 3.8 a while back and found some problems, however 13.10 has it.
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> so there is a development in the repos fpr 13.10, not sure on it in 13.04 is all now jorvis
[04:59] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: Ok, thanks.  I'll keep hunting then
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, Cool
[05:01] <jorvis> wilee-nilee: Some logging seems to be found via this command, but nothing is written there when I try to open network settings: grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, you can navigate to it and just open it.
[05:03] <jorvis> Open what?
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> jorvis, /var/log/syslog
[05:04] <jorvis> Oh, I have no problem reading it from the commandline.  I see entries there, just nothing new when I reproduce the error
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> Doh I missed the networkmanager
[05:05] <caf4926> If I format a External USB HD to ext4, it's no longer writeable, how can I make it writeable to whatever device I connect it to?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> caf4926: it depends on what other Os/device you wanna branch it?
[05:06] <reisio> caf4926: you can either chown it, or change fstab
[05:06] <reisio> or both
[05:06] <caf4926> it's a portable HD and it will be used on multiple Linux machines
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> caf4926, http://askubuntu.com/questions/158735/how-to-set-permissions-so-that-i-can-read-and-write-to-another-partition
[05:07] <reisio> also you might want to put a little FAT or NTFS partition on it, so if it's plugged into a Windows box, Windows doesn't immediately ask the user if they want to format it
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> caf4926, check the others advice as well.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> will it be readable for mcs too like this?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> macs
[05:08] <reisio> well, neither Windows nor Mac OS support ext out of the box, AFAIK
[05:08] <caf4926> chown to everyone?
[05:08] <reisio> oh wait, Lion has native ext support
[05:08] <reisio> so just Windows won't
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:08] <caf4926> I don't use windows
[05:08] <reisio> but seriously, if you plug an ext drive into Windows, it will ask immediately if you want to FORMAT IT
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> reisio: how about other linux Os that doesnt use ext4?
[05:09] <reisio> so either keep an eye on your portable drives, or include at least one tiny partition that Windows understands
[05:09] <reisio> lotuspsychje: will assume it's ext2/3
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[05:09] <reisio> in which case it'll either mount normally, mount not quite so normally, or not at all :)
[05:09] <reisio> but probably the former
[05:11] <reisio> anyone on an ancient Linux box that can't get an ext4 FS to mount will know why, and how to fix it, though :)
[05:15] <caf4926> chmod 777 >path did it thanks wilee-nilee
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !yay | caf4926
[05:17] <caf4926> *I have done it before on another one but couldn't just remember
[05:17] <uronu> any advice of what tool will i use for file sharing on ubuntu 12.04?
[05:17] <caf4926> uronu: ubuntu one
[05:17] <reisio> uronu: what's your target audience?
[05:18] <Tantor> ls
[05:19] <uronu> ubuntu clients shared  directory on file server with user permission.
[05:19] <Tantor> Hello. I use ubuntu 12.04 and I am trying to install ledgersmb, however when I try to install it with apt-get I get this error: E: Unable to locate package ledgersmb
[05:19] <Tantor> Has ledgersmb been removed or so?
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> !info ledgersmb
[05:20] <Tantor> universe seems to be enabled as a package source
[05:20] <reisio> uronu: so local network only, or on the internet?
[05:21] <uronu> reisio: local network only
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> Tantor, All I see are debs on the web for it in 12.04, but just a quick glance
[05:22] <Tantor> Where did you find these?
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=12.04+ledgersmb&gbv=1&sei=qkIYUpTQMeS6iwL5i4H4CA
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> google fooie
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> any alternatives for hydrogen, (techno grooveboxes)?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !info lmms
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> oh lemme try that1
[05:30] <reisio> uronu: samba or nfs maybe, or just ssh/fs, or hell a web server is quite simple, or an ftp server
[05:31] <root_gnewsense_o> I raised a problem earlier, I fixed it on my own, the problem was a .xauth in boot if anyone was interested
[05:32] <dswhite85> has anyone here tested the new pipelight plugin to allow netflix to work in a browser like chrome/firefox?
[05:33] <yet-zero> join #python
[05:34] <Gerald> never heard of it. googling now
[05:40] <uronu> reisio: thanks.
[05:46] <home555> m
[05:48] <saki`> when you do something like wget http://lulz.com/blabla.zip
[05:48] <saki`> does it download to the current directory you're in
[05:48] <saki`> or what?
[05:49] <nowayride> Yes
[05:49] <IdleOne> yes
[05:49] <yet-zero> yes, current directory
[05:49] <yet-zero> you can man wget
[05:50] <saki`> oh right
[05:50] <saki`> thanks
[05:50] <saki`> also
[05:50] <saki`> actually nvm
[05:53] <yet-zero> anyone has good books about python socket programming?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> yet-zero: thats not really an ubuntu question mate
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> yet-zero: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:55] <yet-zero> OK, i know.
[05:55] <yet-zero> thx
[05:59] <scx> helo
[05:59] <scx> hello*
[05:59] <scx> how to disable team speak 3 client autostart at logon?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> scx: does't it show in your startup items?
[06:01] <scx> lotuspsychje: i checked all startup items and services
[06:01] <scx> there is no teamspeak entry
[06:02] <schmock> Hi @ all
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> scx: did you check your /home with enable hidden folders?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> scx: maybe config is over there
[06:03] <schmock> I have a little problem: I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my laptop in dual boot mode together with win 7. All worked fine. I updated 12.04 to 12.10 and after that, whenever I was launching ubuntu, it crashed shortly after it started loading ubuntu.
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !info teamspeak-client
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> scx: or man teamspeak?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> schmock: did you try update-grub ?
[06:05] <scx> lotuspsychje: yes: $ grep -E "ts.?client" ~/.*
[06:05] <nowayride> schmock what was the crash output? Ubuntu can be finicky on updates sometimes
[06:05] <nowayride> Or what stage did it crash
[06:05] <scx> lotuspsychje: i dont have man for teamspeak - i installed it from *.tar.* to /opt/
[06:05] <schmock> lotuspsychje: I am quite new to this, where can I access it? In advanced options for ubuntu in the boot selector screen?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> scx: are you on ubuntu server?
[06:07] <schmock> nowayride: I selected ubuntu in the bootloader, then the screen turned ubuntu violet and then there was some sort of graphically visible crash (about 5 secs in) and then everything was pitch black and nothing happening for quite a while.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> schmock: in terminal: sudo update-grub and reboot, if it crashes, try a recovery/failsafeX from grub
[06:08] <scx> ok, i found problem: there was symbolic link tsclient to team speak client and i have installed tsclient (terminal server client, not ts3client)
[06:09] <nowayride> schmock: This is server? When grub is starting hit a, it will bring you to an edit line, add nosplash and remove quiet if present, should show you boot sequence
[06:09] <scx> lotuspsychje: ^^
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !yay | scx
[06:09] <nowayride> It is nosplash and remove quiet right? That's off the top of my head and the servers I deal with don't use plymouth or whatever
[06:10] <scx> anyway, thanks for help
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: you mean nomodeset?
[06:10] <nowayride> Isn't that for X11?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: or removing 'quiet splash' to see text boot?
[06:10] <stobix> hi! Is there a way to make X spew out the (automagic) config it has right now? I'd like to make a base xorg.conf with the stuff it imagines I have, and build from there.
[06:10] <nowayride> Maybe that's it
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !text
[06:11] <nowayride> X -configure?
[06:13] <schmock> lotuspsyche: nowayride: It's for desktop (running on laptop). With my skills I think lotus' approach seems feasible to me. nowayride's approach just seems a little over the top for me... ;) Either way: thanks a lot!
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> schmok: good luck! mostly recovery from grub might work
[06:14] <nowayride> schmock: it's the same place, just different options but yeah try to get a picture of where it fails if you need to hit up the chat again, more specific errors = more chance we know what might be wrong
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> schmock: depending on what went wrong of course
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> schmock: and even a better idea, single install ubuntu on your laptop and loose windows once and for good :p
[06:16] <schmock> lotuspsychje: nowayride: Alright. I'll give it a shot. If I come back here, I hope I will be able to provide something more specific as the logic behind more details = higher chance of success is something I do understand. :)
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> schmock: good luck
[06:17] <schmock> lotuspsychje: I am not ready for that yet... ;) Also: so far I tried ubuntu only through wubi and it has been rather nervwrecking at times... And win 7 had proven to be a good security line to be able to do at least something with my laptop. :D
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> schmock: i really recommend making an ubuntu live usb with diskcreator
[06:19] <nowayride> schmock: also, 12.04 is pretty good bet for server BTW. If you need GUI stuff desktop is fine, but server 12.04 is LTS meaning it will be updated long after 12.10 and even 13.04 go out.
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> schmock: ubuntu will be far more stable then your win7 and more secure
[06:19] <nowayride> ^ Desktop for 12.10 and 13.04 and stuff
[06:20] <schmock> lotuspsychje: that's why I am still willing to give it another go :)
[06:20] <nowayride> lotuspsychje: Win 7 really isn't that bad on stability, well if you don't download crudware, but yeah schmock Ubuntu is nice and secure :)
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> schmock: and if you come back in chat here we will help you around
[06:20] <nowayride> You get loads more control over what your OS does too
[06:20] <schmock> nowayride: I just also have to be able to handle that.... ;)
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: we can discuss w7 in ot mate :p
[06:21] <nowayride> Hehe that's okay :P
[06:21] <am42> can anybody help out a noob with an fgrlx driver issue?
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> am42: what goes wrong for you mate?
[06:21] <schmock> nowayride: lotuspsychje: ok, I'll give it a try then! Thanks a lot for the quick and friendly help! Much appreciated! :)
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> schmock: anytime!
[06:22] <am42> lotus: getting unmet dependency errors in the terminal when i try to install
[06:22] <am42> with broken packages
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> am42: what ubuntu version?
[06:23] <am42> 12.04.3
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> am42: might be usefull if you could pastebin that for us
[06:25] <am42> lotus: pastebin.com/w71a4QnT
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> am42: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/193140/cannot-install-ati-amd-proprietary-fglrx-graphics-driver-systemerror
[06:41]  * Dr_Willis looks around..  'its dead Jim!'
[06:43] <nbubuntu> hi , I read the release note , but I still can't understand technically on it.What is Enablement Stack means ? I saw a new roll out of 12.04.3 release today
[06:44] <nbubuntu> May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel ?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack    This?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Updated kernel and stuff to support new hardware on 12.04.X from what im reading.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[06:49] <nbubuntu> Dr_Willis : which and what kind of new hardware needed it ? Since I plan to upgrade my pc
[06:49] <nbubuntu> Dr_Willis : It doesn't list down which hardware required for the release
[06:50] <caf4926> ssh over the net ? I have it working over the LAN, what might I need to do to enable it over the net?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | caf4926
[06:51] <nowayride> caf4926: if it's working over LAN and not internet, you probably need to set port forwarding on your router.
[06:52] <caf4926> nowayride: I figured. But how would I address the server
[06:53] <nowayride> How do you mean? You'd just access it from your WAN IP
[06:54] <caf4926> nowayride: let me clarify... I ask because I have a client who I visit for the first time on Monday and I want to get this clear in my head
[06:55] <caf4926> nowayride: I have a feeling it's going to matter that his ISP uses dynamic addresses
[06:56] <nowayride> His? No. The address you connect from doesn't matter, the address you connect to does
[06:56] <nowayride> The exception is if he has firewall rules for outbound traffic, but it's very unlikely he will be firewalling SSH to a server
[06:57] <caf4926> nowayride: His IP from his ISP is dynamic
[06:57] <nowayride> caf4926: you are connecting from a computer via ssh TO a server?
[06:57] <caf4926> on his server
[06:57] <caf4926> sorry
[06:58] <nowayride> Is his server what's on the dynamic address?
[06:58] <caf4926> nowayride: yes
[06:59] <nowayride> Okay so he's setting up a server on a dynamic address from his ISP, and wants people from other locations to connect to his dynamic IP from SSH?
[06:59] <caf4926> nowayride: :-) yes
[06:59] <nbubuntu> May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel 12.04.3 vs 12.04 ? which new hardware required the new kernel ?
[07:00] <nowayride> That's generally not a good idea for reliability, but one option is he could use something like dyndns to keep a record of his IP, but generally you can't always rely on a home connection
[07:00] <caf4926> nowayride: this is what I figured
[07:01] <caf4926> nowayride: As I understand it, he has data processing running on the machine and needs to access it
[07:01] <nowayride> Dyndns is his best bet though, if the odd outage is acceptible. It seems like ISP IPs don't change around as much as they use to (I've had an IP for half a year at a time on TWC)
[07:02] <nowayride> It's not a guarantee but as long as he has an internet connection dyndns should keep the IP record updated
[07:03] <caf4926> nowayride: I did wonder if the data could be stored in a cloud for access
[07:03] <expo987> how do I calibrate the color profile in ubuntu?
[07:04] <antii> hi
[07:04] <expo987> through the command line would be best
[07:05] <antii> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu 12.04. I can boot it up but i never get to the setup. I get the following messages in dmesg.. http://pastebin.com/62XcECsY
[07:07] <antii> gonna try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[07:10] <atomickitten> Might be the wrong place to ask this, but... whenever I try to run VLC, it won't load! I can click on it in the menu (I'm using MATE in case that's relevant), or I can try to click on a media file, but it still won't work... :( When I try to run it from the command line, it spits out a few lines of text then it says somthing at the end about a segmentation fault. Could that be the problem? Please help! D:
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581569
[07:13] <atomickitten> tried that, didn't work :/
[07:14] <ikonia> atomickitten: is there a mate package in the ubuntu repos ? I thought it was totally unsupported on ubuntu ?
[07:14] <ikonia> atomickitten: and a segfault is the problem for sure, but what's causing the segfault is the key
[07:14] <atomickitten> I had to add some extra repository thing
[07:14] <atomickitten> I kinda doubt it has to do with my DE because it won't run from the command line either. Could be wrong though. Assuming you guys know it better than I do...
[07:15] <ikonia> atomickitten: I suspect it's going to be that (as an easy explination) as VLC works fine with the supported desktop
[07:15] <ikonia> and as mate is pretty much a dead codebase that people are trying to keep a alive
[07:15] <ikonia> atomickitten: the command line.....just launches the gui
[07:15] <atomickitten> another relevant piece of info is that I've run it from MATE a bazillion times before, but it stopped. I have no idea what changed
[07:16] <atomickitten> well it didn't launch anything when I entered the vlc command
[07:17] <atomickitten> it just says...
[07:17] <ikonia> ...because it segfaults
[07:17] <atomickitten> VLC media player 2.0.8 Twoflower (revision 2.0.8a-0-g68cf50b) [0x1c2f108] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface. Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> !info vlc
[07:17] <Berengar> morning ^^
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: welcome, what can we do for you
[07:18] <atomickitten> so what command should I be entering to test it?
[07:18] <Berengar> so guys, question: my ubuntu (12.04) doesn't boot on kernels newer than 3.5.0-36 anymore. now i noticed that for those newer kernels there isn't an initrd image when i run sudo update-grub . could this have something to do with it?
[07:18] <ikonia> atomickitten have you tried cvlc which won't use any desktop interface
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: i think what ikonia says makes sense, vlc should work out of the box on ubuntu
[07:18] <ikonia> atomickitten: that way you can have at least a clue it's nothing to do with mate
[07:19] <atomickitten> I did try it, and it started some kind of other prompt
[07:19] <ikonia> atomickitten: ok, so you then have an idea that vlc is working - but the displaying of vlc isn't
[07:19] <atomickitten> I'm guessing there's some VLC commands I type in there or something.
[07:19] <atomickitten> sounds like it
[07:20] <ikonia> atomickitten: which suggests an issue with the "visual" or "desktop" component
[07:20] <ikonia> atomickitten: try it with a different DE and confirm it works/doesn't work there
[07:20] <atomickitten> but it worked on MATE before. It worked up until really recently, but I don't know what changed that could have caused this
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: anything in logs maybe?
[07:20] <ikonia> atomickitten: because mate is a dead codebase that no-one is developing for, it's possible that an update to vlc broke it's compatability with the legacy code of mate
[07:21] <ikonia> atomickitten: or a mate update, just had a bug/glitch in it, due to it being maintained by other people who may have made a mistake,
[07:21] <atomickitten> alrighty
[07:21] <nbubuntu> May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel 12.04.3 vs 12.04 ? which new hardware required the new kernel ?
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: try #mate for any other vlc issues
[07:21] <ikonia> eg: the function that is "gnome-2-support" the vlc developers may have dropped that function because gnome-2/mate is deae
[07:21] <ikonia> dead
[07:21] <ikonia> (just as an easy example)
[07:21] <atomickitten> I'll boot into the default Ubuntu environment
[07:21] <atomickitten> if that doesn't work, I'll be back
[07:22] <Berengar> :\
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: what actualy happens when trying to boot a higher kernel?
[07:23] <Berengar> lotuspsychje something like kernel panic, root fs not found
[07:24] <Berengar> when i look at the boot arguments for the newer kernels it just links to /dev/sda3, for the kernel that works it links to a UUID
[07:25] <twenty-three> hi guys, i have reinstalled ubuntu 13.04 a couple of weeks ago and i have this issue where the buttons to adjust brightness don't actually change the brightness of the screen, i am using a sony vaio laptop
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: using uefi?
[07:25] <convoi> i have a question about sound device on linux lite, should i ask here?
[07:25] <twenty-three> how do i fix this?
[07:26] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i don't know? this motherboard is 4 years old though, so i doubt it :D
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> convoi: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[07:27] <convoi> thank lotuspsychje, i found the solution in #linuxlite
[07:29] <kisuke> ok, running lubuntu raring, any clue why synaptic would randomly freeze?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/219563/cant-even-try-ubuntu-due-to-error-failure-reading-sector-0x5b500-from-hd1
[07:32] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i just tried to run update-initramfs and i get a cannot open script error even though the package (initramfs-tools) is installed, maybe that's the root of the problem? :o
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: not sure mate, maybe doublecheck your logs
[07:34] <atomickitten> Alright, I was unable to get the classic Ubuntu interface to work for some reason. Windows would show up, but they'd be without borders so I guess there's no window manager running. However, I tried it in LXDE and straight OpenBox and it still didn't run. I think it's safe to say it's not MATE's fault.
[07:34] <vipul_> Could any one help me out in knowing the difference between kernel programming and device driver programming?
[07:34] <ikonia> atomickitten: openbox is also not an ubuntu desktop
[07:35] <atomickitten> well, regardless, I'm pretty certain that's not the problem.
[07:35] <ikonia> atomickitten: no you're not certain at all
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> vipul_: maybe the dev guys might help you
[07:35] <atomickitten> This is something I know is possible because I've done it before. I'm not asking to do something that can't be done, I'm just asking how to fix it so it was the way it was before.
[07:35] <ikonia> atomickitten: mate brings in a set of libraries for the desktop to run, there is possabilities they are the problem/part of the problem
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !dev | vipul_
[07:35] <atomickitten> Okay, cool. BUT VLC worked fine with MATE until recently.
[07:36] <ikonia> atomickitten: as I told you that means nothing
[07:36] <atomickitten> how could it mean anything?
[07:36] <ikonia> it's useful to know it did work - but adds no value to the current issue
[07:36] <atomickitten> There's absolutely zero corellation
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: never heared a vlc segment fault on regular ubuntu before..
[07:36] <atomickitten> how many problems do you get on a daily basis that you've never encountered before?
[07:37] <ikonia> atomickitten: there is also a possibility that you have have a hardware problem, they are a common reason for sefgaults
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: try an ubuntu livecd and vlc
[07:37] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i just reinstalled the initramfs-tools package. created the initrd images for the newer kernels and ran update-grub. cross fingers, ima reboot ;o
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: good luck!
[07:37] <atomickitten> That's a thought
[07:38] <ikonia> atomickitten: or an update to the video card module / against your hardware is causing a display problem
[07:38] <atomickitten> hmm, strange. Rhythmbox won't load either.
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: no issues show in your /var/log/syslog.1?
[07:38] <ikonia> atomickitten: define "won't load"
[07:38] <ikonia> atomickitten: does it segfault ?
[07:39] <atomickitten> not sure yet, finding out
[07:39] <atomickitten> by "won't load" I mean, I click on the icon in the menu and nothing happens
[07:39] <atomickitten> "rhythmbox: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"
[07:39] <ikonia> 32bit.....
[07:40] <atomickitten> I'm using a 64bit system
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: maybe it stime to reinstall good ol ubuntu :p
[07:41] <ikonia> atomickitten: are you using nvidia modules by any chance ?
[07:41] <atomickitten> damn. Just did a reinstall last week
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> atomickitten: try 13.04 64bit and your vlc will work again
[07:42] <atomickitten> No, but now that you mention it, the one change I made recently was installing a driver for my graphics card. It's AMD.
[07:42] <atomickitten> and actually, this is probably pretty relevant because this does seem to coincide with the time VLC stopped working at all
[07:43] <ikonia> atomickitten would it be fair for me to guess you installed this direct from ati...rather than the ubuntu package manager ?
[07:43] <atomickitten> yes I did
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:43] <ikonia> I think I see the problem......
[07:43] <atomickitten> I was unaware you could do this through the package manager >.<
[07:43] <ikonia> !ati | worth reading atomickitten
[07:44] <ikonia> it's a little dated, but the concepts are still the same
[07:44] <atomickitten> Crap. I remember seeing that article months ago when I made my first Ubuntu install on this machine.
[07:44] <ikonia> I think we have a winner
[07:44] <atomickitten> I just did it the lazy way the second time
[07:44] <Berengar> lotuspsychje it worked :D
[07:45] <nbubuntu> May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel 12.04.3 vs 12.04 ? which new hardware required the new kernel ?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Berengar
[07:45] <atomickitten> I suppose I'd need to undo what I installed straight from AMD before I did anything there?
[07:45] <ikonia> atomickitten: and this is the restult of being a little sloppy, if you can try to use the official tools, official repos etc etc
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: and found it yourself!
[07:45] <nbubuntu> What's the difference between 12.04 vs 12.04.2 vs 12.04.3
[07:45] <atomickitten> To be fair, it's the way I was used to on Windows. Make a new install, go find the vendors sites and start downloading/installing shit.
[07:45] <ikonia> atomickitten: hand on heart, I'd clean install this (unless you have important data) and walk through everything you've done but making sure you use the correct processes to set your machine up properly.
[07:45] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i have a new problem though :D
[07:45] <backtrack> = =
[07:45] <ikonia> atomickitten: yeah, that approach will not work in ubuntu
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: spit it out :p
[07:46] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a way to add optional menu widgets to the lxpanel?
[07:46] <atomickitten> jesus, ANOTHER reinstall. Just so I can listen to Daft Punk. It's gonna be a long night. :P
[07:46] <ikonia> atomickitten: you don't have to do a new install
[07:46] <CountryfiedLinux> what's daft punk?
[07:46] <Berengar> lotuspsychje with the new kernel the network manager doesn't connect automatically to my home wlan anymore. it's not even showing up in the list, i have to use the manual "connect to hidden network" option
[07:46] <ikonia> atomickitten: I just think you'd be better off, anything you don't know how to setup, just ask rather than having a guess
[07:47] <ikonia> atomickitten: that way the end goal will be stable.
[07:47] <atomickitten> CountryfiedLinux: a musical group
[07:47] <CountryfiedLinux> I know who CM Punk is
[07:47] <atomickitten> Technically, I did ask. I asked google. Google gave me the AMD site with their drivers and I thought "Okay sweet. It's that easy!"
[07:47] <nbubuntu> ikonia : May I know what's the difference Enablement Stack on kernel 12.04.3 vs 12.04 ? which new hardware required the new kernel ?
[07:48] <ikonia> nbubuntu: check the release notes,
[07:48] <ikonia> atomickitten: google is not "asking" it's people storing information, it doesn't mean it's right, has experience, is relevent to your specific situation
[07:48] <ikonia> atomickitten: it's a good source of info, but shouldn't be followed blind
[07:48] <atomickitten> trtue
[07:48] <atomickitten> Well guys, I appreciate all your help. Lesson learned the hard way.
[07:49] <atomickitten> You might be seeing lots of me, considering how inept I am, apparently :P
[07:50] <kisuke> atomickitten: we all have to start somewhere.
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: your ssid changed to not broadcast?
[07:50] <atomickitten> take care
[07:50] <nbubuntu> ikonia : The release note doesn't list out which hardware to upgrade .Lets say haswell processor and new z87 Motherboard , which one should I install ?
[07:50] <Berengar> lotuspsychje i didn't change anything on the AP/router
[07:51] <ikonia> nbubuntu: what do you mean, "which one should I install"
[07:52] <nbubuntu> ikonia : 12.04 vs 12.04.2 vs 12.04.3
[07:52] <ikonia> nbubuntu: install the latest one available
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: maybe new wifi driver after update?
[07:52] <ikonia> nbubuntu: think of them as service packs
[07:52] <ikonia> (if that helps)
[07:52] <nbubuntu> ikonia : ok, then will download it thanks :)
[07:52] <msi> ку
[07:52] <CountryfiedLinux> I haven't had any freeze-ups since upgrading to 12.04.3
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Berengar: what wifi card chipset?
[07:52] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm using eOS
[07:53] <ikonia> eOS ??
[07:53] <CountryfiedLinux> Elementary OS Luna
[07:53] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: ok, so you know that's not supported in this channel right ?
[07:53] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, I didn't ask for support
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> oO
[07:53] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: no no, I'm just checking you know
[07:53] <Berengar> lotuspsychje lsusb says "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 07d1:3c0a D-Link System DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B2) [Ralink RT3072]"
[07:54] <msi> кто с россии
[07:54] <msi> есть такие/
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !ru | msi
[07:54] <argo> msi, I`am
[07:54] <nbubuntu> ikonia : btw , what's the different between cd and dvd version for 64bit ?
[07:54] <ikonia> nbubuntu: it's all DVD size now
[07:54] <kisuke> ok, running lubuntu raring, any clue why synaptic would randomly freeze after changing the state of a package, dmesg|tail shows nothing relevant
[07:55] <nbubuntu> ikonia : ok thanks , I saw wrongly 12.04
[07:55] <argo> msi, only englsih plz
[07:55] <msi> sory
[07:55] <expo987> could someone help me? My screen is really blue, how do I adjust the color profile?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | Berengar
[07:55] <msi> im from rusian
[07:55] <argo> msi, good for you
[07:57] <Berengar> well thanks, i'll check it out :)
[08:00] <nbubuntu> ikonia ; Thanks again , gtg will leave the download overnight :)
[08:00] <JohnC_> ho to move a Primary partition to Extended?
[08:00] <JohnC_> *how
[08:01] <JohnC_> ?
[08:01] <ikonia> JohnC_: you can't, you need to delete the partition and create it inside the extended containers
[08:01] <JohnC_> ikonia, so I need free space?
[08:01] <JohnC_> *unallocated
[08:02] <ikonia> you either need free space to make an extended partition, or an existing extended partition to place your new one in
[08:02] <JohnC_> ikonia, ok
[08:02] <argo> JohnC_, Boot disk with acronics or etc. can do it. Boot need shutdown os.
[08:02] <argo> *but
[08:03] <JohnC_> argo, ok
[08:04] <JohnC_> so how to move unallocated space in Extended partition?
[08:05] <auscompgeek> Hey guys. How would one go about making /usr/bin/python point to Python 3 without breaking things?
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> JohnC_, clone it with clonzilla, and delete the original make the new partitions and reload, you just change the partition number in the clone to the new one is all
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> you need and external or place for the clone is all
[08:07] <JohnC_> wilee-nilee, oh ok
[08:07] <stobix> hm. fglrx seems to break my radeon card whenever it is (automagically?) installed. Can I tell the package managers not to touch it in any way?
[08:08] <argo> JohnC_, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=moving-space-between-partitions
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> JohnC_, If you had the free space you could just copy paste it with gparted, but it sounds like thatis not an option.
[08:08] <argo> JohnC_, if u have GUI
[08:09] <JohnC_> wilee-nilee, yup, I dont have enough free space.
[08:09] <JohnC_> argo, ok.
[08:11] <stobix> Right now, some system seems to have installed fglrx for me again, which means that unless I remove it before restarting, I'm stuck with some "oops, we crashed your card" VESA driver.
[08:12] <Moseco> I have just installed Ubuntu 13.04 and when i restart after the installer finishes i get a message saying could not find bootable device, can anyone help with that?
[08:13] <nowayride> Moseco: did you select "install boot loader on /dev/sda" ?
[08:13] <wolffff> Moseco,  are there any external storage devices connected to your computer while trying to boot?
[08:13] <nowayride> Or Grub rather
[08:15] <Moseco> No, just the ssd i installed the os on
[08:15] <Moseco> I had an empty ssd and i installed through a cd and i just clicked next through it
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You have more than one HD?
[08:16] <Moseco> I had a hd for windows and i have an older hard drive that i reformated and installed ubuntu on
[08:16] <Moseco> When i installed ubuntu i had only the 1 hd connected
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, grub might have gone to the other HD's mbr, what windows release?
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> ah one connected
[08:17] <Moseco> I didnt have that drive connected at the time
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You install with a usb?
[08:17] <Moseco> I have an intel dx58so motherboard with the latest bios if that matters
[08:17] <Moseco> With a CD
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Ah uefi?
[08:18] <nKf> hi. are there any known problems with kernel 3.8.0-29 ? two different computers freeze from time to time since last update.
[08:18] <Moseco> I believe i have that set so it doesnt only use that
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, This a W8 dual boot?
[08:19] <Moseco> I have 2 HDs one for windows and a seperate for ubuntu, but i only had the ubuntu Hd connected during install
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Your missing that I'm trying to conform this uefi setup that comes with W8.
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> confirm
[08:19] <Moseco> I have W7
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, The point here is uefi, here is some specific install parameters is all.
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> has*
[08:21] <Moseco> Im not quite understanding you
[08:21] <Moseco> For UEFI boot, if im remember correctly i have the exclusive UEFI disabled
[08:22] <Moseco> Because i had a problem with windows 7 boot earlier
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Yes I can tell, if you have a uefi setup the installs are different for that. That is to some extent true on the disable, however all the manufacturers have there own little versions and it is not that simpe.
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> simple always.
[08:24] <Moseco> Ok
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, You might look here on this thread, and this mod is your best help in general on uefi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:24] <Moseco> Thanks
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, Sounds like you have read the uefi wiki already.
[08:24]  * lotuspsychje really hates dualboots
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> been doing it for years no biggie, I have 4 OS here.
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> :p
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> all mbr however
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> i rather like the power of a clean installed Os single hd
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> I need ms word for papers is all and got the student  discounts, so I use W8, not a bad OS really
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> sold my soul to ubuntu for years now :p
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> I started on ubuntu, and acquired MS with a computer install, so a bit backwards. ;)
[08:30] <long> hello
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> long: hi mate what can we do for you
[08:30] <long> hi
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> purchase not install
[08:30] <long>   someone??
[08:30] <cfhowlett> long, no one?
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> long: you can try asking a question first?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> !ask|long
[08:32] <peitao> hi
[08:32] <peitao> anyone?
[08:32] <cfhowlett> peitao, greetings
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !ask|peitao,
[08:32] <reisio> peitao: salutations
[08:32]  * cfhowlett ... senses minor league trolling
[08:33] <reisio> hey hey, a little humor never got a goat eaten :)
[08:33] <peitao> can you speak Chinese?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !cn|peitao,
[08:38] <kisuke> any one know the command for apt-get to downgrade a package?
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, You can install synaptic and do it and lock it if needed.
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> or purge and install the version needed for apt-get
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> from
[08:40] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: not an option i need to downgrade synaptic. im getting hit with the bug where synaptic will lock up after any given action
[08:40] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1178024 see comment 13
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, Purge it and install the version needed
[08:42] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: i think i may have just borked it, aparently lubuntu-desktop depends on synaptic. this will be interesting few minutes
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, It's in lubuntu stock yes, you have the option to yes or no on any apt commands, ou can get the deb of the one you need probably and just install that way
[08:44] <wilee-nilee> you*
[08:44] <matthias_> Slart: hey how are you?
[08:44] <expo987> i installed gnome color manager but it won't open... someone help?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> expo987: try to launch from terminal, see what it says
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, If the remove is removing packages you need copy and paste them from a list to a gedit to save the list, and reinstall them, without the synaptic
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> remove is*
[08:49] <wilee-nilee> expo987, You mentioned the  blue earlier, could it be a graphics driver?
[08:49] <expo987> wilee-nilee: Nah, it's fine, I'm just trying to adjust the color profile
[08:49] <expo987> it's a subtle thing
[08:50] <wilee-nilee> cool, not sure on opening the color manager never used it
[08:51] <expo987> wilee-nilee: it looks like the default adobe 'rgb' color profile
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> expo987, I thinks its called color in the menu
[08:52] <wilee-nilee> comes up in synapse here in 13.04
[08:52] <matthias_> i've got a problem with python, i've got a date: 2013-08-26 but how can i remove the '-' and make it to 20130826
[08:54] <matthias_> i've got a problem with python, i've got a date: 2013-08-26 but how can i remove the '-' and make it to 20130826
[08:56] <holyguyver> I am having trouble with my scanner & I want to see if it is a problem with the scanner or my libsane It has worked on all previous Ubuntu's until now
[08:57] <holyguyver> So can someone tell me how to turn on my scanner's lamp? I want to see if at least that is working.
[08:58] <holyguyver> ...Am I the only one in here?
[08:58] <reisio> holyguyver: what make/model?
[08:58] <reisio> no dude, the reisio doesn't sleep, let's be serious
[08:58] <cfhowlett> reisio, vampire?
[08:58] <holyguyver> reisio: Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 6300C
[08:59] <holyguyver> It has worked on every Ubuntu from Dapper Drake until the one before the current one.
[09:00] <reisio> holyguyver: using hplip?
[09:00] <holyguyver> reisio: yap
[09:00] <reisio> oh, really?
[09:00] <reisio> the hplip site says scanjet is libsane alone
[09:01] <holyguyver> reisio: What's your point?
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> he's a Zombie
[09:02] <holyguyver> A Vampire, get it right
[09:02] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: i got it just ended up installing lubuntu-desktop after i locked the version of synaptic.
[09:03] <wilee-nilee> kisuke, Cool I was a little worried I had forgotten the lubuntu or lxde, part I had seen you mention earlier
[09:04] <wutang> what's cracking homebois?
[09:04] <voltagex> hi, I'm getting a black screen after GRUB when trying to boot a liveUSB via UEFI
[09:04] <holyguyver> reisio: Yes I have HPlip installed, & yes I know Scanjet 6300C is 100% sane compliant, so what are you saying?
[09:05] <holyguyver> voltagex: UEFI! *vomits*
[09:05] <kisuke> wilee-nilee: yeah apt-get is adament that lubuntu needs synaptic for lubuntu-desktop, fourtunatly, most *nix systems will run with a nuked drive.
[09:05] <voltagex> holyguyver: when it works, I get 3 second boot times
[09:06] <wutang> what does nuked mean?
[09:06] <reisio> holyguyver: I was saying that hplip's website says it's nothing to do with hplip, that's all ;)
[09:06] <holyguyver> reisio: Well I have HPlip just in case :p
[09:06] <reisio> wutang: as if a nuclear bomb had been dropped upon them*
[09:06] <reisio> that is: they take a beating
[09:06] <wutang> that's quite a beating
[09:06] <reisio> good story about that here: http://justpasha.org/folk/rm.html
[09:07] <reisio> holyguyver: heh
[09:07] <kisuke> wutang: someone running rm with recursive and force switches on root.
[09:07] <holyguyver> voltagex: This computer has UEFI, never again! I hate it.
[09:07] <reisio> I think I actually bricked a scanner with sane once
[09:07] <kisuke> reisio: so its not "sane" any more is it?
[09:07] <holyguyver> reisio: I have done everything short of shaking this baby.
[09:08] <reisio> well this was many years ago, so it may well be saner now? :p
[09:08] <reisio> moments after bricking it I bothered to read the notice that the following if done incorrectly could brick it, so :p
[09:08] <holyguyver> reisio: I have tested it, the track still works, the scanner still slides, but no lamp turns on & it doesn't scan.
[09:09] <holyguyver> reisio: I even tried installing an older version of sane.
[09:09] <reisio> know how to do that?
[09:10] <holyguyver> reisio: so if you would please just tell me how to turn my lamp on?
[09:11] <holyguyver> I want to see if the lamp is burned out or something.
[09:11] <reisio> I wonder if sane even has a unified lamp toggle command
[09:11] <reisio> does hp-scan do anything? :p
[09:12] <holyguyver> reisio: xsane has a turn lamp off button, but I want to turn it on.
[09:12] <reisio> holyguyver: heheheh, the iony
[09:12] <reisio> irrrrony
[09:12] <wutang> I have a 300GB hard drive that's been running pretty much non-stop for 10 years
[09:12] <wutang> no problem
[09:12] <wutang> they don't make them like they used to haha
[09:12] <holyguyver> reisio: Unable to locate package hp-scan
[09:13] <nowayride> wutang: how would you know, there aren't any new drives that have been running for 10 years yet :P
[09:13] <wutang> hipsters don't use hard drive
[09:13] <wutang> they're too mainstream
[09:13] <holyguyver> wutang:  I have an 8 year old drive.
[09:13] <reisio> nowayride: unless...
[09:13] <reisio> wutang: dude, tell me what stock to invest in
[09:14] <wutang> non-Japanese Asian equities
[09:14] <reisio> heh
[09:14] <holyguyver> reisio: peas or even cattle if you are into livestock.
[09:15] <holyguyver> yokel couldn't take my joke
[09:15] <holyguyver> reisio: so any lamp button?
[09:16] <holyguyver> I need to rub the lamp! *Poof* What do you wish of me?
[09:16] <nowayride> Also... inb4 "#Ubuntu-offtopic" :P
[09:17] <holyguyver> Jekyll: I cannot Hyde how much I love Wildhorn's musical
[09:19] <reisio> holyguyver: what's the button text exactly?
[09:19] <reisio> maybe we can figure it out from the xsane source ;)
[09:19] <holyguyver> reisio: "Turn Off Lamp"
[09:20] <reisio> hmmm
[09:20] <reisio> s/h/hr/
[09:21] <reisio> string doesn't occur
[09:24] <reisio> but it does in the actual sane code :)
[09:26] <holyguyver> reisio: So what should I do?
[09:30] <reisio> probes 17...
[09:30] <holyguyver> reisio: ? What part of me are you probing?
[09:32] <reisio> I don't know if they have separate code just for a light test
[09:32] <reisio> I wonder if the hardware even knows how to do that on its own
[09:32] <reisio> what've you been running?
[09:33] <holyguyver> reisio: what do you mean?
[09:33] <reisio> oh you've been using xsane, not a command :)
[09:33] <holyguyver> reisio: Yes
[09:36] <alfreddba> am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS..i installed virt-manager and also installed centos 6.4...now from centos i cant not connect internet..pls guide me...
[09:37] <holyguyver> reisio: Nothing?
[09:38] <alfreddba> kvm centos not connecting internet pls guide me
[09:39] <reisio> holyguyver: you said you did an update and it stopped working?
[09:39] <cuack> Hello, do IPv4 packets with a wrong checksum get delivered to a socket?
[09:39] <reisio> alfreddba: what does CentOS say about lspci | grep -i net
[09:41] <reisio> holyguyver: try 'scanimage' on its own
[09:42] <Guoerkemer> yo
[09:42] <Guoerkemer> anybody there?
[09:42] <alfreddba> reisio: lspci command not found
[09:42] <cfhowlett> alfreddba, best to ask kvm or centos.
[09:43] <Guoerkemer> I'm looking to install Ubuntu, but I only have 21GB free on my C drive, how much storage does Ubuntu use to install and would it be possible to install it on an external hard drive?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> Guoerkemer, stock ubuntu runs about 6 or 7 gigs not counting data
[09:43] <b0x> it only requires ~6gb for install
[09:43] <cfhowlett> Guoerkemer, external install, but a PITA
[09:43] <b0x> think the setup says 5.7gb of free space
[09:44] <b0x> 20gb should be fine for dual boot
[09:44] <Guoerkemer> cfhowlett what's a PITA?
[09:44] <Guoerkemer> b0x When I turn my computer on, how do I choose which OS to run?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Guoerkemer, google it, amigo
[09:44] <Guoerkemer> Once Ubuntu is installed
[09:44] <mousy> Is there still a bricking problem on Samsung ultrabooks, if so, are there specific models affected?
[09:45] <holyguyver> reisio: the update was to the latest ubuntu, & i don't know how to use scanimage
[09:45] <cfhowlett> mousy, emergency kernel upgrade fixed it (allegedly) ...
[09:45] <reisio> holyguyver: just type 'scanimage' and hit enter, for starters
[09:45] <DJones> Guoerkemer: UBuntu installs a boot loader which appears first when you switch the computer on, it gives you a menu to choose which os to run, by default it'll wait about 10 seconds before booting into Ubuntu, although you can change that
[09:46] <Guoerkemer> Alright thanks, I might give it a go, although not really sure yet
[09:46] <holyguyver> reisio:  scanimage: no SANE devices found
[09:47] <reisio> insane ones? :p
[09:47] <reisio> holyguyver: scanimage -L ?
[09:47] <holyguyver> reisio: No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
[09:47] <holyguyver> check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
[09:47] <holyguyver> sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
[09:47] <holyguyver> which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
[09:48] <alfreddba> kvm not accessing network
[09:48] <reisio> holyguyver: well you could try that
[09:48] <reisio> holyguyver: what does dpkg -l | grep -i sane | grep -i hp say?
[09:49] <reisio> alfreddba: lspci might need root
[09:49] <alfreddba> reisio:
[09:49] <holyguyver> reisio: it is plugged in, xsane recognises it & when I click scan or preview the scanner moves on its track but the lamp does not turn on & it doesn't scan anything, & then xsane says there is a communication error
[09:49] <Guoerkemer> Any of you guys ever tried Tails OS?
[09:49] <reisio> holyguyver: what does dpkg -l | grep -i sane | grep -i hp say?
[09:50] <alfreddba> reisio: root only its says command not found..
[09:50] <reisio> Guoerkemer: probably someone has
[09:50] <reisio> alfreddba: lspci? Ew
[09:50] <holyguyver> reisio: dpkg -l | grep -i sane | grep -i hp ii  libsane-hpaio  3.13.3-1   i386 HP SANE backend for multi-function peripherals
[09:50] <linux|newb> Guoerkemer: no, but there was an article on stealth flavours in Linux Format last month... did you take a look?
[09:50] <alfreddba> reisio: cent os
[09:51] <alfreddba> reisio: centos
[09:51] <reisio> you said
[09:51] <holyguyver> GNU+Linux!
[09:52] <reisio> agreed
[09:52] <holyguyver> GNU is the best OS in the world!
[09:53] <reisio> hear hear
[09:53] <holyguyver> !GNU
[09:53] <linux|newb> lol
[09:53] <alfreddba> reisio:   02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[09:53] <reisio> alfreddba: where'd you get that?
[09:53] <alfreddba> reisio: local maschine
[09:54] <reisio> hrmm? Need it from the guest OS
[09:54] <reisio> you need to make sure you centos has the driver for the VM virtual network adapter
[09:54] <alfreddba> reisio: guestos command not found..
[09:54] <holyguyver> !Ubotu I love you!
[09:54] <reisio> I know, which is why it confused me when you pasted that :p
[09:55] <ljetibo> Hello, I need help in networking department for Ubuntu 10.4 run on Virtualbox is this the right place to ask this?
[09:55] <holyguyver> !Ubottu are you intelligent?
[09:55] <holyguyver> reisio: So what did that latest thing I gave you tell you?
[09:56] <holyguyver> I liked Ubottu better when he only had 1 t & when he knew what love was.
[09:57] <holyguyver> !love
[09:57] <ljetibo> well, I'm going to ask it anyway :D. http://askubuntu.com/questions/336354/virtualbox-suddenly-doesnt-connect-to-networks so it's basically as the links states, I've been having this problem for 2 days now
[09:57] <reisio> holyguyver: not much
[09:58] <ljetibo> I've also checked in the resolve.conf file and it was empty, if that information does you any good
[09:58] <reisio> resolv
[09:59] <holyguyver> reisio: sane recognises it & when I click scan or preview the scanner moves on its track but the lamp does not turn on & it doesn't scan anything, & then xsane says there is a communication error
[09:59] <reisio> nothing happens suddenly on a compute
[09:59] <ljetibo> yes, resolv.conf not resolve
[09:59] <reisio> computer*
[09:59] <reisio> unless your hardware has failed, which is rarely the case
[09:59] <holyguyver> reisio: so it does all of that while sane reports no sane devices
[09:59] <reisio> holyguyver: yeah, it could still be missing support and just fudging what it does do
[09:59] <reisio> maybe talk to #sane
[10:00] <reisio> and not to get too off track, but hardware supported by hplip... ♥
[10:01] <holyguyver> This is Insane!
[10:18] <tom_> hi
[10:19] <ljetibo> hi tom
[10:21] <manik> Does anybody know how to enlarge the Lubuntu Menu?
[10:22] <dubey> Hello
[10:22] <manik> hi
[10:23] <ljetibo> hi dubey
[10:23] <dubey> I am facing a strange issue with my EC2 instances. When i tried to login to the instance, it kind of freez for some time and after 2-3 min. it let it in.
[10:23] <dubey>  I tried -vv and found that shell stops at "debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768" stage
[10:24] <dubey> It is happening for some nodes but not all
[10:24] <linux|newb> dubey: can't help but out of interest, how's the hosting?
[10:25] <dubey> it is Amazon AWS
[10:25] <dubey> get this : debug2: channel 0: request window-change confirm 0
[10:25] <dubey> ubuntu@cloud:~$ debug2: client_check_window_change: changed
[10:26] <linux|newb> dubey: no... how is it, like do you find it good?
[10:26] <manik> hello?
[10:26] <dubey> for around 10-20 min to login or if login happens fast i can't even run "ls" command till 10-20
[10:27] <dubey> Yes
[10:27] <linux|newb> :-s
[10:30] <manik> Does anybody know how to enlarge the Lubuntu Menu?
[10:30] <bob666> hi ! I have setup a VM with raw access to hdd partitions in Win7. Now, from windows host I am trying to boot up the VM with ubuntu installer CD.
[10:31] <bob666> when the cd boots, it gets stuck with the text: "there is an unclean partition of windows (0,0). trying to fix..."
[10:32] <bob666> and gets stuck forever. its quite natural that win partition wud be unclean.
[10:32] <bob666> Can i not just skip the unclean check ?
[10:37] <ljetibo> bob666: can't you just use some tool to wipe the disc clean? You know completely format the partition you gave to VM
[10:37] <bob666> the cm has access to the entire hd. few partitions are rw and rest ro (windows partitions)
[10:38] <bob666> *vm
[10:38] <bob666> when the installer boots, it sees the entire hd. and tries to clean it.
[10:39] <linux|newb> bob666: there's something poetic about the vm 'cleaning' the windows
[10:40] <bob666> linux|newb: frankenstein's monster :P
[10:40] <bob666> ljetibo: when the installer boots, it sees the entire hd. and tries to clean it.
[10:41] <nbubuntu> hi I need help , how do I resize my column nautilus ?
[10:43] <gvo> nbubuntu: Can't you grab the line between columns (titles) and drag
[10:43] <nbubuntu> gvo : I can drag it to increase the column wide but not decrease
[10:44] <gvo> It probaby won't go smaller than the largest entry for that column, in some cases.
[10:45] <nbubuntu> gvo : nope , only 1 file was in it and the name was as short is "test"
[10:45] <gvo> What column are you trying to resize?
[10:46] <gvo> There is a minimum width, it appears to be just a bit bigger than the column title width.
[10:46] <nbubuntu> gvo : normal column
[10:46] <gvo> WHich normal column?
[10:47] <gvo> Name type date???
[10:47] <nbubuntu> gvo : Name only
[10:48] <gvo> Well, it does have a minimum size.
[10:48] <bob666> is it not possible to skip checking for unclean partitions while booting the installer ??
[10:48] <nbubuntu> gvo : no matter how I resize the date too , when I open back the folder it change back to default
[10:49] <nbubuntu> gvo : how to edit it ? I try gconf-editor but I can't find which directory to edit
[10:49] <gvo> Don't know.
[10:51] <nbubuntu> gvo : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1109450
[10:52] <gvo> file a bug report.
[10:52] <nbubuntu> gvo : brb restart pc
[10:59] <nbubuntu> gvo : where does those column setting save location?
[10:59] <efxlab> hey
[11:00] <efxlab>  ~/.bashrc are not created by default ?
[11:00] <phogg> efxlab: not necessarily
[11:01] <nowayride> efxlab: might be .profile, is it in /etc/skel to copy over?
[11:01] <efxlab> I would like add :  force_color_prompt=yes
[11:01] <efxlab> in 	 ~/.bashrc
[11:01] <efxlab> but it doesn't seem load
[11:01] <efxlab> I try .profile
[11:01] <phogg> efxlab: Where do you expect it to have an effect?
[11:02] <efxlab> http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/how-to-change-the-command-line-prompt-colour-in-the-ubuntulinux-terminal/
[11:02] <nickkontos> hello, ubuntu 13.04 here with gnome shell 3.8.3, after first restart, the shutdown option in alternative menu that I installed from gnome-shell-extensions is replaced with a log out and nothing I do will get shutdown back... Searched for this persistant log out button but...
[11:02] <efxlab> I would like to have a bit more color in bash
[11:04] <abrkn> in an upstart script where i use "setuid ubuntu" and "setgid ubuntu", why is $USER not set?
[11:05] <nbubuntu> gvo : where does those column setting save location?
[11:08] <tamiya> Can someone explain why Postfix (the MTA) is installed by default? I use Thunderbird/Zimbra as my mail client with Gmail. Would removing Postfix break anything? eg POP, SMTP?
[11:10] <linux|newb> I have an NFS share on ubuntu 12.04 server which I've added 192.168.1.* to permissable clients
[11:10] <tamiya> anyone?
[11:11] <linux|newb> however, from debian laptop where I have a 192...1 address one wlan0, on eth0 I have a 169 address
[11:11] <linux|newb> so when I try and mount nfs share
[11:11] <linux|newb> it tells me server is denying
[11:11] <linux|newb> best method to combat?
[11:12] <linux|newb> don't want to add 169...
[11:14] <nbubuntu> where does those column setting save location?
[11:20] <tanveer> hi all
[11:20] <tanveer> i copied files from xp into my ubuntu 12.04, now i cant find them, space is still occupied
[11:22] <tanveer> any body?
[11:23] <ljetibo> how did you copy them?
[11:23] <ljetibo> did you use a shared folder, or do you have guest additions installed and then drag and drop option enabled?
[11:24] <ljetibo> (I'm presuming here that you too have a VM)
[11:24] <tanveer> ljetibo, sorry it was external drive and i just copy paste
[11:26] <linux|newb> tanveer: pasted to where?
[11:26] <andrea1x2> Hello guys, are you interested in online betting? i have created this website for you http://bet40.site40.net/
[11:26] <ljetibo> well that's weird :D.... try copying something else (something small). Just copying from an usb device shouldn't be anyything problematic. You might have been careless and accidentaly pasted it to a folder you didn't see. You can try searching for it, but something tells me you already did.
[11:27] <tanveer> i pasted it in a drive which was mounted in W
[11:28] <linux|newb> tanveer: ls -l /locationYouPastedTo
[11:28] <linux|newb> tanveer: ls -al /locationYouPastedTo
[11:28] <tanveer> i did used ls -l command
[11:29] <linux|newb> tanveer: I misspoke - meant -al
[11:30] <tanveer> ok thanks
[11:30] <aguitel> how make more faster ubuntu ?
[11:32] <linux|newb> aguitel: xfce as opposed to Unity?
[11:32] <borsuk> hello
[11:33] <borsuk> I installed Ubuntu but I during instalation I did not find any option to encrypt the whole drive. Was it removed?
[11:33] <linux|newb> borsuk: still exists
[11:33] <borsuk> Is it hidden or sth?
[11:33] <linux|newb> not TMK
[11:33] <andrea1x2> are you interested in online betting?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> andrea1x2  wrong channel
[11:34] <linux|newb> borsuk: just install encfs after the fact
[11:34] <psy^> lol andrea1x2
[11:35] <DJones> andrea1x2: Thats not really a topic for the Ubuntu support channel
[11:35] <tanveer> linux|newb, it is not showing disappeared folders
[11:35] <linux|newb> tanveer: disappointing
[11:36] <linux|newb> tanveer: locate -name foo
[11:36] <linux|newb> tanveer: from dir
[11:36] <borsuk> @linux|newb Can I somehow return to DOS state of my machine and install Ubuntu again? Because AFAIK I need to download 500mb+ os-uninstaller
[11:36] <tanveer> ok i try
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  os uninstaller?
[11:37] <linux|newb> borsuk: 13.04?
[11:37] <max64> I have (HP compaq 6730s) laptop .. ite temperature gets about 80 degrees in less than 30 min .. sometimes it gets frozen .. how to reduce electricity consumption and make the laptop less heat?  thanks
[11:37] <borsuk> yes, I want to remove my Ubuntu 13.04 and install a new one
[11:37] <Kartagis> following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions, how can I find out what my options for output are? for ex., I have a HDMI output but xrandr --addmode HDMI said HDMI is invalid
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  use a live cd, run gparted, delete the ubuntu partition
[11:39] <borsuk> MonkeyDust I cannot - when I try to boot Ubuntu Live from USB, the old Ubuntu starts, don't know why
[11:39] <linux|newb> borsuk: then just insert live cd, choose install and then guided entire disk
[11:39] <linux|newb> borsuk: change boot device in cmos setup
[11:39] <borsuk> I did
[11:39] <borsuk> wait, CMOS setup?
[11:39] <borsuk> I changed in BIOS, is it not enough?
[11:40] <linux|newb> borsuk: in this instance, they're one in the same
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  because your BIOS has to 'boot from USB flash drive'
[11:40] <ljetibo> @max64: how old is the laptop. SOmetimes just taking it to get serviced helps because they vacuume it or blow the dust out with a compressor.
[11:41] <borsuk> MonkeyDust I set it in my BIOS, still old Ubuntu starts
[11:41] <borsuk> Could I break something when installing for the first time?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  then how would you install a new ubuntu?
[11:42] <max64> ljetibo .. it is 4 years old .. last time maintained was 2 years ago
[11:42] <borsuk> MonkeyDust I don't like the current one for several reasons - i.e. I forgot to ncrypt the whole drive
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  yes, but if you cant boot from USB, how did/will you install ubuntu?
[11:43] <borsuk> I want a fresh start :)
[11:43] <borsuk> It worked then
[11:43] <ljetibo> @max64: what I can basically tell you is that overheating is rarely caused by software and it's almost always hardwares fault.
[11:44] <borsuk> Now it can't
[11:44] <max64> ljeribo: is leaving laptop without maintainance may cause harms?
[11:45] <borsuk> help pls
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  how did you install ubuntu the first time?
[11:46] <ihre> My DIY NAS crashed this morning, and I could find the following in my logs: http://dpaste.com/1355022/ How can I identify the actual problem ?
[11:46] <borsuk> MonkeyDust I booted from USB, it worked then. Now it seems to be broken
[11:46] <ljetibo> max64: sometimes. Depends on how clean your room is, if you dust often if you have long hair (trust me on that one, I have long hair and everytime I take it to get cleaned ~once a year they pull out 15m of my hair out of it
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  what seems to be broken? the usb stick?
[11:47] <max64> :D
[11:47] <borsuk> MonkeyDust Can't really tell. When I try to boot it, the old Ubuntu starts
[11:48] <borsuk> MonkeyDust (and I set the BIOS to boot from USB)
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  first find out what goes wrong, then repair it
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  is the usb stick physically damaged?
[11:49] <borsuk> MonkeyDust :D yeah, but how can I check what is broken? The usb disk seems to be alright.
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> borsuk  disk or stick?
[11:50] <borsuk> MonkeyDust It seems like Ubuntu on USB "knows" that Ubuntu is already installed
[11:50] <borsuk> MonkeyDust stick
[11:51] <zizazi> have a friend with a "windows dead" computer (AMD Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53 GHz, 512 MB RAM) .... tried lubuntu which works ok in live mode but crashes during install... how to proceed?
[11:52] <lantizia> zizazi, we'd need more information on the crash - but remember the live cd doesn't need the hdd to work - so if the hdd is faulty that's why the live cd works but installing doesn't
[11:52] <ihre> zizazi: I had the same yesterday, went to install the 13.04 mini.iso, and installed ubuntu-desktop afterwards
[11:52] <lantizia> zizazi, and a possibility for why windows doesn't work now
[11:53] <zizazi> lantizia: windows works but is extremely slow
[11:53] <X-User> hello, I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor , better to download .deb file and install or adding a PPA and install via terminal?
[11:54] <zizazi> lantizia: crash with lubuntu does not allow me to get info after; i get message saying i will be able to report bla bla but no it doesnt happen, i can only force shutdown manually
[11:54] <nowayride> X-User: up to you, the PPA would keep it updated though
[11:54] <nowayride> But that's an extra PPA too (not that it matters much)
[11:54] <lantizia> zizazi, did the graphical install manage to appear or is this before that?
[11:55] <zizazi> yes graphical install ok
[11:55] <zizazi> ihre: thanks; that's maybe an idea for me to try
[11:56] <lantizia> i install my ubuntu every time using the mini.iso method - but i'm picky about what I want installed :)
[11:56] <X-User> nowayride, the last update for that software was in 2012-06-30 , so I don't think that the developer is still active.
[11:56] <lantizia> namely MATE :P
[11:56] <gordonjcp> zizazi: "crashes during install" isn't terribly helpful.  What *exactly* happens?
[11:56] <Xethron_> hello
[11:56] <nowayride> X-User: some software can go a few years without update, but yeah .deb wouldn't be a bad idea for stuff like that
[11:57] <zizazi> what are minimum requirements for mini iso? also what comes by default? gui?
[11:57] <Xethron_> my entire system just crashed
[11:57] <Xethron_> refuses to boot
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !mini | zizazi
[11:57] <Xethron_> boots into busybox
[11:58] <Xethron_> it seems to fail on mounting something
[11:58] <anonee> hello, how do i find out the currently set DNS server? I tried $ cat /etc/resolv.conf but it says it's dynamic set?
[11:58] <X-User> nowayride, ok, thanks.
[11:59] <zizazi> gordonjcp: install goes for some 10 minutes or so and then i get message that installer crashed and i will be able to generate report on exit... but in fact icant even exit... after waiting a lot i force shutdown manually
[11:59] <zizazi> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:59] <anonee> !DNS
[11:59] <X-User> Xethron_, what is the output while booting?
[12:00] <gordonjcp> zizazi: okay, but what is the actual error?
[12:01] <Xethron_> X-User: im on my tablet. so ill try rettype
[12:01] <zizazi> gordonjcp: installer crashed error... is that not possible? that's the message i get (though not in english)
[12:01] <Xethron_> X-User: the last error seems to be
[12:02] <zizazi> zizazi: my impression is something lighter than lubuntu will work
[12:02] <Xethron_> X-User: well, first mounting /root failed: Invalid argument
[12:02] <gordonjcp> zizazi: you should be able to to bring up a more detailed description
[12:03] <gordonjcp> zizazi: what's the spec of the machine you're installing on?
[12:03] <X-User> Xethron_, maybe you should try to add a keyboard with that.
[12:03] <zizazi> AMD Athlon XP 1800+ 1.53 GHz, 512 MB RAM
[12:03] <Xethron_> X-User: then /root/sys and /root/proc failed
[12:04] <zizazi> ubuntu mini is lighter than lubuntu as i understand
[12:04] <Xethron_> and lastly i got
[12:04] <zizazi> !mini
[12:05] <Xethron_> X-User: Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init.
[12:06] <Eagleman> Can you use multiple public keys on one user account to login without a password ( SSH ) ?
[12:06] <Xethron_> X-User: No init found. Try passing init= bootarg.
[12:06] <Xethron_> and then it loads busybox
[12:06] <zizazi> ok will go try with mini...
[12:07] <zizazi> gordonjcp: should i remain waiting for a msg from you?
[12:07] <james434> How do I check whether or not the mirror in my country is up-to-date?
[12:07] <Xethron_> X-User: got any ideas?
[12:08] <sylvain_> Hi, I'd like to know if latest ubuntu iso of 13.04 contains the kernel version which disable samsung_laptop module in EFI boot
[12:08] <X-User> Xethron_, like this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1606975
[12:11] <abrkn> i'm struggling with an upstart script. why does "exec sudo -u ubuntu bitcoind" not work (upstart log simply says ": command not found") when "echo `sudo -u ubuntu bitcoind`" works?
[12:14] <FireAndIce> Can anyone help me with this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/336619/not-able-to-login-through-gui-in-ubuntu-12-04
[12:14] <bekks> FireAndIce: Boot a live cd and run fsck -f
[12:14] <Eagleman> Can you use multiple public keys on one user account to login without a password ( SSH ) ?
[12:14] <ro9> which java tu use? Ubuntu 12.04 and Eclipse Juno
[12:15] <bekks> ro9: The one you want, basically.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:16] <FireAndIce> bekks, ok.. I'll try that..
[12:16] <FireAndIce> thanks.
[12:20] <ro9> currently java sun oracle 7 installed but keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/ytBv5DnX
[12:20] <nowayride> abrkn: I'm thinking exec is trying to execute "password:" as a command
[12:21] <ro9> should i use java from ubuntu repo
[12:23] <abrkn> nowayride: why would it do that? http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#exec does not imply it would do that
[12:24] <X-User> Xethron_, got any solutions?
[12:27] <X-User> Xethron_, maybe this one can help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:28] <Xethron_> X-User: wb
[12:28] <ro9> i have django 1.3.1 with easy_install. how to get 1.5
[12:28] <abrkn> nowayride: i think i figured it out
[12:28] <zykotick9> abrkn: is bitcoind in your root's PATH?  try using the full path to bitcoind instead.
[12:28] <X-User> Xethron_, ty
[12:29] <Xethron_> X-User: trying to boot an old ubuntu cd. will let you know once its booted
[12:29] <Xethron_> taking ages
[12:29] <eegore> I forgot the port number for cups
[12:30] <FastCode> 631
[12:30] <X-User> Xethron_, ok
[12:31] <X-User> Xethron_, always prefer USB stick.
[12:31] <airtonix> looking for a reminder about how I send pulseaudio across the network in 13.04
[12:31] <Xethron_> yeah. can see why
[12:32] <X-User> Xethron_, :D
[12:32] <Xethron_> just dont have anything to write an iso to usb right now :p
[12:33] <ro9> which java tu use? Ubuntu 12.04 and Eclipse Juno
[12:33] <ro9> currently java sun oracle 7 installed but keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/ytBv5DnX
[12:34] <X-User> Xethron_, so what are you using right now?
[12:34] <Xethron_> wow. lots has changes since ubuntu 8.10
[12:35] <X-User> Xethron_, 8.10 :O
[12:35] <Xethron_> oh dang. 8.10 doesnt support ext4
[12:35] <bekks> X-User: 8.10 isnt supported anymore ;)
[12:36] <bekks> X-User: I'dsuggest installing a clean 12.04
[12:36] <compdoc> time for a new OS
[12:36] <X-User> bekks, i know :)
[12:36] <bekks> X-User: Mistabbed, sorry ;)
[12:36] <X-User> bekks, it was to Xethron_
[12:36] <braddoro> i am trying to find out if my machine is 32 or 64 bit so I ran lscpu and I am not sure of what it is telling me, it says:    CPU op-mode(s):     32-bit, 64-bit  what does that mean?
[12:36] <X-User> or use 13.10 :P
[12:36] <Xethron_> im only using 8.10 to live boot
[12:37] <bekks> Xethron_: USe a recent live cd.
[12:37] <bekks> Xethron_: Not sth thats 5y old. ;)
[12:37] <X-User> bekks, 2008
[12:37] <Xethron_> dont have 11.10 on cd... its on my hdd which i cant access right now
[12:37] <bekks> X-User: 2013 - 5 = 2008 ...
[12:38] <bekks> Xethron_: Use 12.04
[12:38] <Xethron_> i dont have it :p
[12:38] <Xethron_> lol
[12:39] <eegore> I really really really hate brother printers
[12:39] <X-User> bekks, he is trying to get a system running anyhow fro now.
[12:39] <bekks> eegore: You dont hate them enough for not using them ;)
[12:39] <Xethron_> is there anyway to add support for ext4 in 8.10 live just to get a newer ubuntu iso?
[12:39] <X-User> bekks, *for
[12:39] <bekks> X-User: I know - but thats pretty pointless until now.
[12:39] <eegore> I niked my windows partiution and I inherited it
[12:39] <bekks> Xethron_: No. You have to use a newer live cd.
[12:40] <Xethron_> bekks, yes, but the newer live cd is on my hdd
[12:40] <eegore> windows was not an issue
[12:40] <eegore> linux is an issue
[12:40] <bekks> Xethron_: And you cant access it using your old llive cd. Thats the end of the story. Use a newer live cd.
[12:40] <X-User> bekks, dont you think that 13.04 is a better idea than 12.04 !
[12:41] <bekks> X-User: Nope. 12.04 is LTS, and he is actually trying to update his very old LTS.
[12:41] <Guest12114> hi
[12:41] <Daekdroom> 13.04 has a much shorter life than 12.04
[12:41] <eegore> they onlkky have i386 driver and the backended fix does not work from their site
[12:42] <Xethron_> sigh... so im screwed until i find another pc...
[12:42] <X-User> Xethron_, make a ext3 aprtition
[12:42] <eegore> I wish there was a driver I could compile natively
[12:42] <X-User> Xethron_, *partition
[12:43] <Xethron_> X-User: no, the iso is on my hdd,which is ext4
[12:43] <bekks> Xethron_: Just ask a neighbor to do you a favour.
[12:44] <X-User> Xethron_, you can even use wind0ws for os x to make a live usb
[12:44] <Xethron_> i doubt a neighbor uses linux. this is africa we're talking about. id be surprised if my neighbor has internet :p
[12:44] <X-User> bekks, in 2008 i was using debian
[12:44] <bekks> X-User: Me never did.
[12:45] <X-User> bekks, ok
[12:45] <Xethron_> X-User: yes, true, but i still need to access my hdd to get the iso
[12:45] <bekks> hi WinstonSmith
[12:45] <X-User> Xethron_, then you are stuck.
[12:46] <Eagleman> Can you use multiple public keys on one user account to login without a password ( SSH ) using different private keys?
[12:46] <WinstonSmith> bekks: greetings :D
[12:46] <X-User> Xethron_, what are you using right now?
[12:46] <Xethron_> lemme see if i have another live cd somewhere.meh
[12:46] <eegore> I may have to fork over for an "ugh" hp
[12:46] <Xethron_> my crashed os is 12.04 i think. the live cd is 8.10
[12:47] <jrib> Eagleman: sure
[12:48] <Eagleman> jrib, do i need to add different lines in authorized_keys2?
[12:48] <jrib> Eagleman: one line per public key
[12:48] <Eagleman> ow nice, didnt know that
[12:48] <Eagleman> thanks
[12:48] <Xethron_> oooooohh. i got xubuntu 12.04 on my windows partition
[12:49] <X-User> Xethron_, I thought Ubuntu is pretty famous in South Africa.
[12:49] <Xethron_> thats luck if i ever saw it
[12:49] <Xethron_> not amongst ordinary foaks no... programmers somewhat
[12:50] <X-User> Xethron_, are you using Dual Boot?
[12:50] <X-User> Xethron_, ok
[12:50] <eegore> this looks like a likely candidate
[12:50] <eegore> http://www.frys.com/product/6568323?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[12:51] <rigo88> Linux htpc 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:51] <Xethron_> jup. but only use windows for the occasional gaming
[12:51] <rigo88> i have this fresh install.
[12:51] <eegore> I no longer need windows for gaming
[12:51] <X-User> Xethron_, then make a Live USB with wond0ws
[12:51] <rigo88> is it safe to upgrade to 3.6.3 from here? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.6.3-quantal/
[12:52] <eegore> got everything to work in linux thanks to emulators
[12:52] <Xethron_> lemme try that yes
[12:53] <X-User> Xethron_, try this http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download to make a Live USB
[12:55] <X-User> ?
[12:55] <rigo88> if "Two series of kernel are officially available to 12.04.1 LTS. 3.2x-xxx and 3.5x-xxx"  than why is the 3.6.3 named quantal?
[12:55] <bekks> because it was shipped with quantal?
[12:56] <Xethron_> X-User: great. will get that quick
[12:57] <dklobucaric> helo all
[12:57] <X-User> Xethron_, ok
[12:59] <X-User> Xethron_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[12:59] <rigo88> than is it "safe" to use the 12.04 with 3.6.3?
[12:59] <bekks> rigo88: Officially, 12.04 does not ship with 3.6.3
[12:59] <mamed> hello guys . after a long time i installed 11.04 to my computer . 12.04 is ok but a bit slow and consumes so much cpu(fan makes noise even though i cleaned it) but i cannot update the repositories
[12:59] <bekks> rigo88: So it is your choice.
[12:59] <mamed> did 11.04 repositories changed
[12:59] <rigo88> just because i think that the tevii s471 is only "supported" (so it is only recognised well) with 3.6.3
[13:00] <bekks> mamed: 11.04 is unsupported due to EOL.
[13:00] <OerHeks> mamaed, 11.04 is EOL, repo's are down
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> mamed: what are your system specs?
[13:00] <mamed> bekks: i thought like that way . but i found that old-releases.ubuntu.com work but it didnot work for me
[13:00] <ralphy> mamaed: can you upgrade to 13.04? Ubuntu made alot of speed improvements to Unity in that release
[13:01] <rigo88> i ever used the 12.04 with 3.6.3 for only xbmc.
[13:01] <X-User> mamed, use 13.04
[13:01] <mamed> lotuspsychje: 32 bit asus laptop 2 gb ram
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> ralphy: true
[13:01] <bekks> rigo88: he would have to update to 11.10 first, which is unsupported too.
[13:01] <mamed> 13.04 i bet it will be muh more slower than 12.04
[13:01] <bekks> !eolupgrade | mamed
[13:01] <mamed> ubottu: i know eol
[13:01] <OerHeks> mamed wrong bet
[13:01] <rigo88> well i think since installing linux is not the most complicated thing in the world it would make sence to build a new clean system right? :)
[13:01] <ralphy> mamed: nope
[13:02] <mamed> ok guys why i escape from 12.04 is youtube issue i cannot watch youtube videos and this is not a flash problem
[13:02] <rigo88> meanwhile i get an em: possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8106e-1.fw while upgrading.
[13:02] <bekks> mamed: Then which problem is it?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> rigo88: a clean ubuntu would be nice indeed
[13:03] <rigo88> lotuspsychje: if i have problems, i always rebuild the system.. i like to mess with the stuff.. a hobby..
[13:03] <mamed> bekks: i installed debian 7.0 with xfce and without problem i was able to watch youtube vides
[13:03] <bekks> mamed: And why did you choose an unsupported version?
[13:03] <mamed> i usedto love it
[13:03] <mamed> also for orta theme
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> rigo88: rebuild, meaning clean installs every time?
[13:03] <bekks> mamed: So how does that prove it wasnt a flash issue?
[13:03] <mamed> i think gnome 3 has some internal heaviness also
[13:03] <ralphy> mamed: you have to tell us the specific problem that leads you to believe it is not a flash issue if you want help
[13:04] <rigo88> yep why not.. in fact i use linux only for xbmc and/or home server. the desktop pc runs w7
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> rigo88: same here aswell, always latest ubuntu clean install x64
[13:04] <mamed> ralphy: for example i was able to watch daily motion or any other video site but youtube
[13:04] <bekks> mamed: which does not prove it wasnt a flash issue.
[13:04] <mamed> so?
[13:04] <mamed> how about debian 7.0
[13:05] <bekks> mamed: We dont care about debian.
[13:05] <mamed> but ubuntu is debian based
[13:05] <rigo88> im stucked at 12.04 since it is a lts. but i read somewhere that there are conflicts with 13.10 & xbmc and/or with the ati driver...
[13:05] <bekks> mamed: Every car is based on Ford. Which doesnt make every car a Ford.
[13:05] <mamed> ok when was 13.04 released
[13:05] <bekks> mamed: 13.04 was released in April 2013.
[13:05] <mamed> i have been far away from lates versions of ubuntu
[13:06] <rigo88> thats a wrong metaphor i guess
[13:06] <mamed> hm in normal time
[13:06] <mamed> cool i will upgrade my sys then
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> !yay | mamed
[13:06] <mamed> wht are the improvements?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> !13.04
[13:07]  * mamed loves scripts:P
[13:07] <mamed> guys i want to as ksth
[13:07] <ralphy> mamed: good luck-I recommend installing chrome as that uses a newer version of flash
[13:07] <mamed> will canonical plan to change ubuntu into something like windows 8
[13:07] <X-User> ubottu, !raring | mamed
[13:08] <X-User> lotuspsychje, oh have not seen you already did.
[13:08] <mamed> i am a conservative computer user and i love menus button i did not like the idea of touch screens bla bla
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> mamed: dont put win and ubuntu in same line :p
[13:08] <mamed> lotuspsychje: yes i know but
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> X-User: no sweat mate we all here for the same
[13:08] <rigo88> do i have to install some special driver for intel hd graphics? (celeron 847 sandy)
[13:08] <mamed> this ubuntu app menu is a small step to something like this
[13:08] <mamed> i think in that way
[13:09] <X-User> lotuspsychje, :DE
[13:09] <ralphy> <lotuspsychje: kinda like saying beetlejuice 3 times
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ralphy: :p
[13:09] <mamed> ok one last thing how can i remove the app button in the unity interface
[13:09] <X-User> ralphy, :P
[13:09] <ralphy> mamed: app button?
[13:10] <X-User> mamed, what is app button?
[13:10] <mamed> hmm you know when you click it a new menu is open and you can search files see application bla bla
[13:10] <Gerald> riggo88: yes. you probably will to get all of the 3d and video decoding working
[13:10] <mamed> on the unity
[13:10] <mamed> at the top of unity
[13:10] <mamed> top left end
[13:10] <ralphy> mamed: oh... I don't think you can... you may want to try a different desktop
[13:10] <ralphy> mamed: desktop environment
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> mamed: you can autohide dash
[13:11] <mamed> well . i love unity i love global menu i love the dock on the left side
[13:11] <X-User> mamed, you can try XFCE or Cinnamon
[13:11] <mamed> xfce :( cinnamon is like win:(
[13:11] <X-User> mamed, KDE then.
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> mamed: and use docky at bottom example
[13:11] <mamed> too complex and have internal problems
[13:12] <mamed> hm mcan i change the pos of unity dock
[13:12] <mamed> in 13.04
[13:12] <bekks> mamed: Where do you get those wrong information from?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> mamed: yes
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | mamed
[13:12] <rigo88> maybe thisone? https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.2
[13:12] <mamed> cool this was impossible in 12.04
[13:12] <bekks> mamed: Can you even prove that KDE "have internal problem"?
[13:12] <mamed> bekks: i am tired of seeing kde has crashed bla bla
[13:12] <mjayk> mamed: no you cant
[13:12] <mamed> also it is a ram eater
[13:13] <mamed> qt is ok but kde:(
[13:13] <X-User> lotuspsychje, cairo-dock / glx dock is better that Docky IMHO
[13:13] <mjayk> mamed: its not a ram eater kde needs you to configure it
[13:13] <mjayk> mamed: if you dont then its bad
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> X-User: advantages?
[13:13] <mjayk> mamed: but if you know what you are doing it is one of the best
[13:13] <ralphy> mamed: ditto, I did not like kde 4
[13:13] <bekks> mamed: "bla bla" is no proof for anything. So stop spreading rumours please.
[13:13] <mamed> yes i know but as i said too complex. also i love global menu which does not exist in kde
[13:13] <mamed> in kde4 . in kde 3 i was
[13:13] <mjayk> mamed: like a search menu ?
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> mamed: bekks is right, you can only speak for your own experiences..
[13:14] <mamed> search menu?  i am talking about global menu . menu bar on the top like mac os
[13:14] <X-User> mamed, then try this DE http://www.enlightenment.org/?p=about/e17
[13:14] <mjayk> mamed: mamed yea thats something you need to configure in kde
[13:14] <mamed> ok . i will upgrade to 13.04 then if i come across any problem and cannot find any solution on the net i will come
[13:15] <mamed> do not get me wrong i dont want to offned anyone
[13:15] <mjayk> mamed: everything is possible you just need to configure it, i use unity but you can change very little
[13:15] <Extreminador> guys i have the "GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1" but after i install e17 desktop environment the grub is waiting 20 seconds to choice an option. Before the e17 installation this was fine... Is there any other file that i should see or any command that i should run ?
[13:15] <ralphy> mamed: dont forget to try google chrome to use a newer version of flash
[13:15] <mamed> why not fox
[13:16] <mjayk> Extreminador: thats very strange did you just install the de enviroment ? anyway try to update grub
[13:16] <braddoro> i am trying to find out if my machine is 32 or 64 bit so I ran lscpu and I am not sure of what it is telling me, it says:    CPU op-mode(s):     32-bit, 64-bit  what does that mean?
[13:16] <X-User> lotuspsychje, it looks much better, have a shut down button, hardware acceleration, themes, can add menus, lots of tweaks and many more
[13:16] <mjayk> Extreminador: grub2-update or something
[13:16] <Extreminador> mjayk, ahhh ok thanks will try that
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> X-User: cool, never tryed it
[13:16] <ralphy> mamed: complicated, adobe stopped releasing new versions of flash for everyone but chrome
[13:16] <X-User> lotuspsychje, give it a shot, its good.
[13:17] <mjayk> chrome is bad anyway
[13:17] <mamed> hm okay then
[13:17] <Gerald> braddoro: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:17] <ralphy> Hey, are there any Ubunu developers here?
[13:17] <mamed> maybe we wont see the flash anymore
[13:17] <mamed> html5 is on the way
[13:17] <ralphy> Ubuntu*
[13:17] <Extreminador> mjayk, but yehh i did install some other's programs like x-chat, firefox and a program to disable mouse-pad while a mouse is plug in
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> ralphy: you might wanna try the dev chat
[13:17] <Gerald> and if it says it supports 64 bit. then its a 64bit machine
[13:18] <ralphy> lotuspsychje: on freenode?
[13:18] <mjayk> ralphy: I believe so
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> forgot chan name
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> ralphy  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: tnx
[13:18] <mamed> it would be great if ubuntu create its own DE . with qt based . isaid qt based bec it has lots of functions to create a DE and also c++ is the development lang. which is my favorite c
[13:19] <mjayk> Extreminador: strange to be honest only thing i can think of to do is to run a grub update to make it refresh the cfg
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> !ot | mamed
[13:19] <ralphy> MonkeyDust: thx
[13:19] <mamed> sorry i forgot it again
[13:19] <Extreminador> mjayk, humm i don have any grub2-update
[13:19] <braddoro> Gerald, what am I looking for in that output?  I don't see anything that says 32 or 64 bits
[13:19] <Extreminador> mjayk, have allot of grub- commands but none say update
[13:20] <mamed> ok guys i am downloading the iso and then burn it to a dvd(OMG it is nearly 800 MB)
[13:20] <Extreminador> mjayk, maybe grub-mkrescue ?
[13:20] <mjayk> Extreminador: the command is update-grub2
[13:20] <mjayk> i beliebe
[13:21] <Extreminador> mjayk, ahh yehh that one i have thanks
[13:21] <Extreminador> brb going to reboot
[13:22] <rila> Hello Guys, can someone help me please with an issue in Ubuntu 13.04
[13:22] <ralphy> really quiet in dev chat, i'm a cs senior and i'm looking for a way to contribute to a large foss project
[13:22] <rila> Can i msg someone?
[13:22] <rila> for help
[13:22] <gordonjcp> ralphy: pick a project, find the bug list, start fixing bugs
[13:22] <rila> Its about drivers for graphic card
[13:22] <gordonjcp> rila: best to just ask in channel
[13:22] <rila> Well I have ati drivers installed on Ubuntu.
[13:22] <rila> Everything works
[13:23] <rila> But i want to use the OS also in VMware on Windows as Physicial Machine
[13:23] <Gerald> braddoro. if you see the lm flag. it's 64bit
[13:23] <bekks> rila: Then you cant use the native ATI drivers at all.
[13:23] <rila> But when i start the machine as physical machine i have black screen
[13:23] <rila> Which drivers should I use then?
[13:23] <rila> Radeon?
[13:23] <bekks> rila: No. VESA drivers.
[13:23] <Extreminador> mjayk, that worked thanks
[13:24] <rila> Are VESA the default drivers of ubuntu?
[13:24] <Gerald> grep flags /proc/cpuinfo
[13:25] <ralphy> rila: the virtual machine cuts off access to the graphics hardware-your getting a black screen because the os thinks it needs to use the radeon drivers
[13:26] <rila> Thanks
[13:26] <ralphy> rila: the VESA drivers are the default barebones that you need
[13:26] <rila> Now i can fix it
[13:26] <rila> Thanks guys
[13:26] <rila> Makes sense now lol
[13:26] <bekks> rila: Uninstall the ati drivers.
[13:26] <mjayk> Extreminador: good to hear
[13:27] <braddoro> Gerald, thank you I have  lm in the flags
[13:31] <asdfss> anyone here using myphpamin ?
[13:32] <asdfss> anyone happen to know who to import a csv into a single column table in mysql
[13:32] <bekks> Why?
[13:32] <bekks> asdfss: use "mysql" in a terminal.
[13:32] <aguitel> what twitter client is working under ubuntu ?
[13:32] <bekks> aguitel: firefox
[13:32] <asdfss> i got this file with countries listing and they are spereated by comman
[13:33] <tsongki> how to check for bad blocks in terminal
[13:33] <bekks> tsongki: Using "badblocks".
[13:33] <X-User_> bekks, :D LOL
[13:33] <asdfss> how to import them to a table ?
[13:34] <asdfss> i looks so damn simple yet the damn thing wont import
[13:34] <bekks> asdfss: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqlimport.html
[13:34] <asdfss> mtfker
[13:34] <bekks> !language | asdfss
[13:34] <tsongki> bekks, do i need to download gparted for that
[13:35] <aguitel> what twitter client is working under ubuntu ?
[13:35] <X-User_> ubottu, !rules | asdfss
[13:35] <tsongki> i mean are there any disk utility available for ubuntu
[13:36] <ryan123> Is anybody getting error, while booting into Ubuntu 13.04 - if, so is it because it's new
[13:36] <ryan123> *errors
[13:36] <ralphy> tsongki: besides gparted?
[13:36] <ralphy> ryan123: what error?
[13:37] <stobix> Hi. Can I block a package/driver from being automatically installed in Ubuntu?
[13:37] <stobix> (fglrx to be precise)
[13:37] <ryan123> Sorry, Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error
[13:38] <stobix> Ubuntu 13.04 seems to be one big internal error right now.
[13:38] <ralphy> ryan123: there should be a button in the bottom left that allows you to expand to give more information on it
[13:38] <ryan123> I've click "OK" now