[09:48] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:48] <keith-> i can't believe this
[09:49] <keith-> i kept trying to type my password
[09:49] <oO[NOVA] Oo> don824chan: did you first install the driver into ndiswrapper using ndiswrapper -i driver.inf ?
[09:49] <Belutz> AndieB: look what ubotu just said
[09:49] <ompaul> poningru, it is in  breezy/main Packages
[09:49] <keith-> and it kept saying it failed
[09:49] <keith-> to the screensaver that is
[09:49] <ksmurf> was that better ompaul?
[09:49] <keith-> so i dropped to a shell that was already logged in...
[09:49] <poningru> ompaul: thanks man
[09:49] <ompaul> bulletino, could you ask a question that is specific
[09:49] <keith-> killed gnome-screensaver
[09:49] <don824chan> oO[NOVA] Oo I think I did, because it said "bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it"
[09:49] <ompaul> ksmurf,  was what better? sorry  missed it :-/
[09:49] <odatubuntu> i have a program that depends on libqt3c102-mt anyone know what i need to install to make this work because the current version is just libqt3-mt
[09:49] <poningru> AndieB: turn on backports
[09:49] <keith-> got back in gnome... only to see gnome had caps-lock on, but somehow console didn't
[09:50] <poningru> !tell AndieB about backports
[09:50] <oO[NOVA] Oo> don824chan: okay you have to see this post first: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22049.html
[09:50] <ksmurf> sorry.... Could someone tell me how to add terminal in gnome 2.12 (Breezy) back to my right click content menu Please>>>> ompaul
[09:50] <oO[NOVA] Oo> don824chan: if http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22049.html don't work, check back here
[09:50] <dv_> hello
[09:50] <poningru> don824chan: hold on I will be right with you
[09:50] <khermans> Anyone know how to set the Microsoft Exchange server in Novell Evolution 2.x ??  I can't seem to speicufy the server address
[09:50] <waterbaby999> well....ubuntu recognises my wireless card which is one step better than fedora .. but its not powered up .. anyone care to help?
[09:50] <don824chan> poningru: thanks
[09:50] <dv_> i have a slight problem with the QTDIR variable
[09:50] <bulletino> ompaul: when i'm trying to open sources.list to change a few things, i can't change it :S
[09:50] <don824chan> oO[NOVA] Oo thanks as well
[09:50] <bulletino> i'm doing this in console
[09:50] <poningru> AndieB: let me know if that works or not
[09:50] <khermans> bulletino, do it as root
[09:50] <dv_> its not defined by default, so when I want to develop something with Qt I have to define it
[09:50] <AndieB> Wow... now much to get in touch with... I'll add that what you wrote poningru!
[09:51] <adamh> ksmurf: Install the nautilus-open-terminal package :)
[09:51] <bulletino> sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[09:51] <odatubuntu> waterbaby999 do a search on ubuntu for networking they have a package there
[09:51] <dv_> where can I enter the variable so that it is always defined on startup?
[09:51] <khermans> Anyone use Novell Evolution?
[09:51] <adamh> ksmurf: or something like that
[09:51] <PShivers> Belutz: where is the paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[09:51] <ksmurf> adamh thanks
[09:51] <bulletino> when i'm doing that i get a venster empty
[09:51] <adamh> khermans: Is that == Ximian Evolution?
[09:51] <ompaul> ksmurf, :) okay right click on the panel you want and add to panel or run smeg to add it to the primary one with the following properties name Terminal command line  gnome-terminal
[09:51] <Belutz> PShivers: open it with your web browser
[09:51] <khermans> Ximian is 1.x
[09:51] <waterbaby999> "do a search on ubuntu" ... clarify?
[09:51] <dv_> I thought abotu /etc/profile/ but will that do?
[09:51] <draug_n> ok.. now i've gotten the server to accept print jobs from networked clients. but the print jobs just sit there in the queue and don't get printed. printing a test page (directly from the printer) works. funny thing is, it worked just 15 minutes ago :( any ideas?
[09:51] <khermans> adamh, Novell bought Ximian
[09:51] <ompaul> bulletino, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:51] <odatubuntu> waterbaby999: go to ubuntu's home page
[09:52] <waterbaby999> kk
[09:52] <waterbaby999> its just updating atm :)
[09:52] <adamh> khermans: Yeah, but I thought it still called itself Ximian Evolution :)
[09:52] <ompaul> PShivers, it is in netherlands
[09:52] <khermans> adamh, well do you know how to set the exchange server address?
[09:53] <ompaul> waterbaby999, can you keep it all to one line - very busy and in here atm you might notice :)
[09:53] <mata_svada> I have a serious problem: I can't boot my ubuntu-system anymore.
[09:53] <adamh> khermans: No, never used it with Exchange
[09:53] <PShivers> right
[09:53] <adamh> khermans: You have to install the evolution-exchange-somethingorother package...
[09:53] <waterbaby999> yup ok no problemo :)
[09:53] <mata_svada> it says that it can'T load certain stuff
[09:53] <PShivers> Belutz ompaul: and then I copy the text I find?
[09:53] <poningru> don824chan: hmm
[09:53] <mata_svada> would be nice if someone could help me...
[09:54] <khermans> adamh, i have the connector installed
[09:54] <ompaul> PShivers, yeap,
[09:54] <poningru> don824chan: so what exactly did you do?
[09:54] <adamh> khermans: Sorry, no idea then
[09:54] <PShivers> Belutz ompaul: and then?
[09:54] <odatubuntu> i have a program that depends on libqt3c102-mt anyone know what i need to install to make this work because the current version is just libqt3-mt
[09:54] <eamonn> mata_svada, can you give some more details? Are you running Hoary? What are the messages?
[09:54] <Belutz> PShivers: paste the url in here
[09:54] <bulletino> ompaul: thanks ! it's finaly works normal :P
[09:54] <PShivers> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2304
[09:54] <ompaul> PShivers, please, it is instinctive - you do it you tell people the url they talk with you and so on - kind of like a help channel :)
[09:55] <setite> how do i remove a package with dpkg
[09:55] <don824chan> poningru: lemme see
[09:55] <ompaul> setite, which package do yo uwant to remove?
[09:55] <don824chan> poningru: you know I'm not entirely sure
[09:55] <setite> linux-wlan-ng... i forced it and now i want to remove it
[09:55] <ompaul> setite, and given your skills why not do it with symaptic
[09:55] <eamonn> setite, dpkg -r
[09:55] <mata_svada> I'm running 5.04 and the messages are that i cant load gdm, /sbin/klogd , postgresql
[09:56] <Belutz> PShivers: not that, you copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste it into that pastebin
[09:56] <mata_svada> actually, its not running anymore ;-)
[09:56] <setite> ompaul: it doenst show up in synaptic
[09:56] <PShivers> Belutz: I have done that
[09:56] <mata_svada> and when I try to log in the konsole, it says that cd /home/mata (my username) doesn't work
[09:56] <don824chan> damnit
[09:56] <setite> is only use synaptic when i have to anyway... console is faster
[09:56] <PShivers> Belutz: and that's one of the results
[09:56] <don824chan> poningru: I kept on saying "sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf" and it doesn't seem to be working
[09:57] <adamh> WOO-HOO! I've brought my computer up from a failed-boot-dropping-to-busybox-terminal to a full-blown router, without rebooting :P
[09:57] <don824chan> poningru: then all of a sudden it says its already installed
[09:57] <eamonn> setite, then use apt-get from the console. Or aptitude.
[09:57] <adamh> Now I can Google for how to fix it :P
[09:57] <don824chan> poningru: and when I try to remove it to install it again it says it isn't installed
[09:57] <Belutz> PShivers: you didn;t paste the content of menu.lst file
[09:57] <mata_svada> right now I'm running a live cd.
[09:57] <PShivers> Belutz: I pasted /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:57] <poningru> don824chan: hmm ic
[09:58] <AndieB> I'm back!
[09:58] <Doom27> hey its me again my problem isn't fixed
[09:58] <AndieB> Hmmm....
[09:58] <Belutz> PShivers: could you paste it again?
[09:58] <don824chan> poningru: i'll show you what i mean in #flood
[09:58] <get_VoIP_here> .
[09:58] <PShivers> Belutz: /boot/grub/menu.lst... have pasted again
[09:59] <mata_svada> hmmm... anyone any ideas??
[09:59] <spacey> anyone got gajim working with gpg?
[09:59] <AndieB> poningru: No OpenOffice 2 in my Package Manager!
[09:59] <eamonn> mata_svada, try hitting escape when the grub messages start and starting in safe mode. Then type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[09:59] <ompaul> mata_svada, that is because the home dir of a live CD is ubuntu - your trying to get into the home dir of a real user - so you have to mount the hard drives if they have not mounted already - check the desktop for partitions - then click on the right one and away you go
[09:59] <Belutz> PShivers: i didn't see it in the paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:59] <PShivers> Belutz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/search
[09:59] <PShivers> the results
[09:59] <don824chan> WAIT
[09:59] <don824chan> poningru: I just got it
[09:59] <eamonn> mata_svada, I didn't realize you were running a livecd.
[09:59] <mata_svada> ompaul it's when I try to login when I boot from my hd
[10:00] <poningru> AndieB: did you add the backports and the multiverse?
 <Bluefox> ubuntu  <---I don't know wht the hell I read that as, but it wasn't good
[10:00] <mata_svada> no, just now, becaus my hd-install doenst work, obviously...
 GSGold: ubuntu means orgy
[10:00] <odatubuntu> i have a program that depends on libqt3c102-mt anyone know what i need to install to make this work because the current version is just libqt3-mt
[10:00] <adamh> What do I have to do to make a change to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules take effect?
[10:00] <Belutz> PShivers: i'm confuse
[10:00] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: that's obsolete in Breezy, IIRC
[10:00] <ompaul> mata_svada, not obvious from info you have given us sorry :) now easier to understand
[10:00] <poningru> AndieB: go to synaptic
[10:00] <poningru> and see what repositories you have installed
[10:01] <mata_svada> no prob, thanks for your help...
[10:01] <PShivers> Belutz: ok, you telled me to paste "/boot/grub/menu.lst" right?
[10:01] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: it's replaced by the one you referenced, I think. One sec, I'll check for sure.
[10:01] <kzin> ppc question. got a new ibook -- suspend-to-ram no longer does. used to work with the old ibook, on both breezy and hoary+2.6.12
[10:01] <AndieB> poningru: Yes, I added the line exactly as ubotu posted to me...
[10:01] <kzin> or is there a more suitable channel?
[10:01] <ompaul> mata_svada, what do you want to do?
[10:01] <Belutz> PShivers: yes, paste the content of menu.lst file into the pastebin
[10:01] <poningru> AndieB: but do you have the mulitverse installed as well?
[10:01] <AndieB> poningru: You wrote something like !tell and my nick... but I didn't get that one (newbie to XChat tooo).
[10:01] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: thanx and if so what do i need to do in order to install qjoypad
[10:01] <mata_svada> so I'm going to reboot and if it doesn't work, I'll be back
[10:01] <odatubuntu> ?
[10:01] <poningru> oh
[10:01] <ompaul> mata_svada, stop
[10:01] <eamonn> ompaul, I think he just wants to boot succesfully :)
[10:01] <AndieB> poningru: How can I tell? :D
[10:01] <sktrdie> hello
[10:01] <mata_svada> ???
[10:01] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: wait, are you on breezy you say?
[10:02] <sktrdie> has anyone of u got vlc in Breezzy?
[10:02] <poningru> AndieB: hehe that is an ubotu command
[10:02] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: yea
[10:02] <poningru> basically telling ubotu help you
[10:02] <ompaul> mata_svada, record any error exactly are you getting when it boots
[10:02] <ompaul> mata_svada, record any error exactly when you try to log in
[10:02] <el_ramiro> hi, can someone help me, I'm having issues installing my NIC
[10:02] <Belutz> PShivers: when you open that paste.ubuntulinux.nl, type yout nickname, and paste the content of menu.lst into the text area below it and click send
[10:02] <mata_svada> ok...
[10:02] <AndieB> poningru: Hehe oki.. something new everyday (or some days MANY new things! Wonderful!)
[10:02] <ompaul> mata_svada, also try to log into a terminal CTRL + ALT + F1
[10:02] <Alpha_Cluster> How do i know what my root password is? It never asked for it
[10:03] <ompaul> !tell Alpha_Cluster about root
[10:03] <AndieB> poningru: How do I see if multiverse is installed or configured or "whatever" ?
[10:03] <dylan_> how do i get totem to play embedded videos on web pages?
[10:03] <mata_svada> ompaul, ok, so I'm rebooting.
[10:03] <sktrdie> has anyone of u got vlc working in Breezzy?
[10:03] <igno^> I need help to configure my ubuntu server as router anyone wanna help? :D
[10:03] <ompaul> mata_svada, okay
[10:03] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: yes, libqt-mt replaces it. Not sure what you need for that app, it should probably say
[10:03] <Belutz> wew it's already 3 am
[10:03] <PShivers> Belutz: done
[10:03] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: probably say what?
[10:04] <el_ramiro> I have a similiar issue as igno, Im trying to set up my ubuntu as proxy
[10:04] <dylan_> is there a way to get totem to play embedded videos on web pages at all?
[10:04] <PShivers> Belutz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2310
[10:04] <mwr1515> I'm new to Breezy, can anyone recommend a good P2P file sharing program?
[10:04] <dylan_> mwr1515, gtk-gnutella
[10:04] <Belutz> Pshivers: yes i can see it now :)
[10:04] <AndieB> Hmm...
[10:05] <Belutz> PShivers: wait
[10:05] <mwr1515> Thanks, can i find gtk-gnutella in Synaptic?
[10:05] <AndieB> Waow... I gotta go to bed now... I really need to get up early!
[10:05] <geneo93> nicotine is good p2p
[10:05] <dylan_> mwr1515, yes
[10:05] <AndieB> poningru: I thank you very much for your time and effort to try and help me out!!
[10:05] <crimsun> mwr1515: yes
[10:05] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: what dependencies it has. Are you compiling?
[10:05] <AndieB> poningru: I hope to find you here some more, when I get into trouble! :D
[10:05] <mwr1515> awesome, thanks guys
[10:05] <AndieB> Bye bye everyone!
[10:06] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: it was a .deb package but i guess i can compile
[10:06] <Belutz> PShivers: may i private message you?
[10:06] <PShivers> Belutz: yes
[10:06] <dylan_> how do i play embedded movies on web pages?
[10:06] <dv_> does ubuntu use FAM?
[10:06] <ompaul> odatubuntu, have you tried to add enough repositories so you can access the full set of 17k + applications?
[10:06] <poningru> AndieB: sorry I couldnt be of more help
[10:07] <thoreauputic> dv_: gamin I believe (similar)
[10:07] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: and it doesn't install? Does it not say its dependencies? It should
[10:07] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: if it doesn't it's broken (it should).
[10:07] <m0biu5> anyone familiar with notepad++?
[10:07] <AndieB> poningru: You have done very MUCH for me!! I'm thankful! If you get any other ideas WHY I don't get OpenOffice 2 in my Synaptic, you can always mail me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:07] <AndieB> Good night everyone!
[10:08] <sktrdie> has anyone got vlc working in Breezzy?
[10:08] <Belutz> hmm
[10:08] <odatubuntu> ompaul: i have ubuntu's standard and universe repositories open
[10:08] <aircooledmadness> yea,  apt-get worked perfectly
[10:08] <dylan_> can somebody help me get to play embedded videos on web pages?
[10:08] <apokryphos> sktrdie: always been fine here
[10:08] <ompaul> odatubuntu, what package are you trying to install
[10:08] <feugan3333> Is there a way to use apt to list the files contained in a package that is not yet installed?
[10:09] <ompaul> !tell dylan_ about restricted
[10:09] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: component.h:6:25: error: qstringlist.h: No such file or directory
[10:09] <odatubuntu> component.h:7:25: error: qtextstream.h: No such file or directory
[10:09] <odatubuntu> component.h:8:21: error: qregexp.h: No such file or directory
[10:09] <odatubuntu> component.h:11:21: error: qobject.h: No such file or directory
[10:09] <odatubuntu> sorry
[10:09] <odatubuntu> damn
[10:09] <Belutz> PShivers: are you using 1 or 2 hdd ?
[10:09] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: you need the apt-file utility
[10:09] <odatubuntu> ompaul: qjoypad
[10:09] <ompaul> odatubuntu, gues you know
[10:09] <PShivers> Belutz: I am using 2 HDD's
[10:09] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: could you pastebin the full output?
[10:09] <odatubuntu> ompaul: yea but i can't find anything like that in the repositories
[10:09] <sktrdie> apokryphos: when I try apt-get install vlc under Breezy it says that it has unmet depndency, maybe some broken packages
[10:09] <Belutz> PShivers: could you join #ubuntu-offtopic it's more quiet in there
[10:10] <odatubuntu> pastbin?  did that once but forget how
[10:10] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[10:10] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:10] <eamonn> hi all, is anyone using Skype on breezy? Does it take much longer than normal to start up?
[10:10] <apokryphos> sktrdie: can you pastebin the full output?
[10:10] <ompaul> eamonn, a lifetime or two yeap
[10:10] <apokryphos> eamonn: nope; long as ever.
[10:10] <sktrdie> apokryphos: sure a sec
[10:11] <ompaul> odatubuntu, can't be of more use to you, it might be in backports - but if you use them be _careful_ they are evil and can eat you alive :)
[10:11] <poningru> brb
[10:11] <poningru> sorry wrong channel
[10:11] <Seveas> finally....
[10:11] <Seveas> repository back up :)
[10:11] <apokryphos> woo
[10:11] <sktrdie> !paste
[10:11] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:11] <ompaul> Seveas,  where
[10:12] <eamonn> apokryphos, are you using KDE or gnome? I wonder if there is a dependency I don't have. I'm using Gnome and the start up time as increased dramatically when I dist-upgraded to breezy a week or so ago.
[10:12] <aircooledmadness> yea,  i needed backports to get VLC in Breezy.  Just open them up,  get vlc,  then shut them down again
[10:12] <Seveas> ompaul, "the usual" :)
[10:12] <apokryphos> eamonn: KDE, but it shouldn't necessarily matter. Let me have a look at the output, and we'll see.
[10:12] <apokryphos> aircooledmadness: vlc is in the normal repos, for breezy.
[10:13] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2311
[10:13] <Seveas> ompaul, cheers, thanks mate!
[10:13] <aircooledmadness> ok
[10:13] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: erm, this is in the compile?
[10:13] <ompaul> thoreauputic, offtopic
[10:13] <dylan_> when i play embedded videos with totem-xine, there is no sound.  what do i do?
[10:13] <Alpha_Cluster> i keep getting an error when i try and ./configure for xmms it gives me an error saying glib isnt right
[10:13] <sktrdie> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2312
[10:13] <eamonn> apokryphos, the only message displayed on startup is "Xlib:  extension "XInputExtension" missing on display ":1.0".
[10:13] <eamonn> "
[10:13] <adamh> /quit/quit
[10:13] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: its a make command
[10:14] <SlicerDicer-> errm does anybody have problems with Mplayer and AMD64?
[10:14] <Seveas> Alpha_Cluster, don't compile xmms
[10:14] <ninjafish> I wish someone would make a distro called workonmylaptopbuntu
[10:14] <Seveas> get it from the repositories
[10:14] <Alpha_Cluster> how?
[10:14] <Mez> ninjafish: what laptop?
[10:14] <apokryphos> sktrdie: you're going to have to work through those dependencies and see why each doesn't install. Likely, you'll need to remove old/replace others.
[10:14] <fooboy> #dumbquestions
[10:14] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: what error does the .deb give though?
[10:15] <dylan_> when i play embedded videos with totem-xine, there is no sound.  what do i do?
[10:15] <rambo3> debian works fine on my laptop, with much older kernel
[10:15] <el_ramiro> after I installed the module to srtup my NIC, what should I do?
[10:15] <Seveas> Alpha_Cluster, apt-get install xmms
[10:15] <ninjafish> HP zv5000. so far i have the wireless card working and the trackpad but the USB ports are not as easy.
[10:16] <dylan_> Seveas, when i play embedded videos with totem-xine, there is no sound.  what do i do?
[10:16] <apokryphos> eamonn: skype doesn't actually work fully for me anymore, unfortunately. Sound problems.
[10:16] <Seveas> dylan_, turn on your sound...
[10:16] <apokryphos> eamonn: mind you, the Klik Skype worked better for me than the debian repository pack
[10:16] <dylan_> Seveas, its all the way up
[10:16] <ninjafish> Also it seems to overheat and switch off a lot (due to P4)
[10:16] <Alpha_Cluster> but they dont have a ap-get at there site for dl where can i get it in that form?
[10:16] <Seveas> totem-xine sucks with wmv
[10:16] <dylan_> Seveas, im trying to play quicktime
[10:16] <blk> i'm running breezy and i'm having a hard time getting my de_CH keyboard running correctly, xorg.conf and gnome are both configured to it but the layout is always en_US until i type "setxkbkeys ch" or simply "setxkbkeys" into a console.. anybody?
[10:16] <Seveas> same difference
[10:16] <sktrdie> apokryphos: mmm
[10:16] <Seveas> better use mplayerplugin
[10:16] <dylan_> Seveas, you dont have a solution?
[10:17] <sktrdie> apokryphos: let metry
[10:17] <Seveas> the latest breezy mplayerplugin is nice
[10:17] <dylan_> Seveas, i dont like mplayer
[10:17] <Seveas> try the latest, you'll like it again :)
[10:17] <BiSK-8> hello
[10:17] <ompaul> dylan_, sometimes there is great freedom in having no choice
[10:17] <eamonn> apokryphos, thanks anyway. It's working for me, just very slow at starting up. It's not a huge deal. I have plenty of disk space, so maybe I'll give kubuntu-desktop a shot some time. (I'm on the Gnome side of that religious war, but I'm flexible...)
[10:17] <dylan_> Seveas, can i get it via apt-get?
[10:17] <Seveas> yeah
[10:17] <Seveas> mozilla-mplayer
[10:17] <nathanel> blk: did you go through 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[10:17] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: non sure how I shoule be using the apt-file utility. My problem starts with not being able to install a perl module: Term-Readline-gnu. perl Makefile.PL reports : Could not find neither libtermcap.a, libncurses.a, or libcurses. So I'm trying to file out which package contains these files.
[10:17] <apokryphos> eamonn: just that one command ;-). It's worth trying, definitely :)
[10:18] <ompaul> eamonn, watch your back if you cross that divide ;-)
[10:18] <Seveas> but you'll have to move the totem plugin files out of the way
[10:18] <dylan_> Seveas, how?
[10:18] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: qjoypad depends on libqt3c102-mt
[10:18] <dylan_> Seveas, and why does mplayer always install xmms with it?  i hate xmms
[10:18] <odatubuntu> that is the error
[10:18] <blk> nathanel: do i need to after a fresh install, i reinstalled when colony3 was released
[10:19] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: nothing else?
[10:19] <ompaul> apokryphos, I did say that months ago on some mailing list
[10:19] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: if so, then add the force depends option
[10:19] <ninjafish> anyone know of a commercial (or legal) DVD app for linux like linDVD but available for end users?
[10:19] <eamonn> ompaul, I might even give vi a try! Might as well do two religious wars...
[10:19] <apokryphos> ompaul: you tried it as of late? Working practically seamlessly; very nice. :)
[10:19] <nathanel> blk: usually not, but it's worth a try...
[10:19] <blk> nathanel: ok i'll try it
[10:20] <ompaul> apokryphos, with the unionfs cheat on kanotix
[10:20] <rambo3> allways funny http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4811/snapshot38cf.png
[10:20] <LoVeLyPeRVeRT> hi all
[10:20] <apokryphos> ompaul: 'tis available for Ubuntu now too, though :D
[10:20] <BiSK-8> is there any program 4 ubuntu for code decyphering that can decypher easy text like decypher this:  itimei  i=u t=b i=u m=n b=e i=u so the decyphered text wold be ubuntu..... so i want a program that can decypher codes of that type
[10:20] <ompaul> apokryphos, its nice - we do need one on this side of the channel
[10:20] <ompaul> apokryphos,  the gnome side
[10:20] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: how do i do that?
[10:20] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: use sed
[10:20] <LoVeLyPeRVeRT> i need to know if i can update ubuntu hoary 5.04 to 5.10
[10:20] <Seveas> dylan_, mv /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem* /some/backup/place
[10:20] <apokryphos> ompaul: yup
[10:20] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: man dpkg
[10:21] <nathanel> LoVeLyPeRVeRT: yes, that's possible
[10:21] <ompaul> LoVeLyPeRVeRT, you can, it might break, backup your data
[10:21] <BiSK-8> apokyphos, is it a good program?
[10:21] <dylan_> Seveas, even with the mplayer plugin there is no sound
[10:21] <LoVeLyPeRVeRT> can wisper me please, how repository can i use to upgrade ubuntu from 5.04 to 5.10?
[10:21] <blk> nathanel: xserver-xorg is only a dummy-package but i've got xserver-xorg-core i'm gonna try reconf'ing
[10:21] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: of course, you can just use a normal text editor; even gedit should be able to do that.
[10:21] <skreet> Okay I'm using a 20" widescreen at 1680x1050 on nvidia driver, and it keeps setting my monitor to 1680x525 (half of 1050) and I dont know why, any ideas?
[10:21] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell LoVeLyPeRVeRT about upgrade2breezy
[10:22] <botbuilder> anyway, I've created a 64 mb ext2 partition mounted on boot.  Should I make it bootable?
[10:22] <BiSK-8> apokryphos im not getting it
[10:22] <setite> skreet: dell 2005fpw
[10:22] <Seveas> dylan_, in that case maybe the sound track is corrupted/encrypted...
[10:22] <BiSK-8> apokryphos i want something automatic
[10:22] <botbuilder> then I've got a 1024mb swap partition
[10:22] <thoreauputic> !find libtermcap.a
[10:22] <eamonn> LoVeLyPeRVeRT, make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed (or kubuntu-desktop): apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Then change all instances of Hoary to Breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" Repeat the second command until it completes successfully.
[10:22] <LoVeLyPeRVeRT> thanks all
[10:22] <dylan_> Seveas, for everything on the internet?
[10:22] <skreet> setite: No, Acer AL2032W, similar though.
[10:22] <Seveas> dylan_, hmmm
[10:22] <Seveas> sounds odd..
[10:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libtermcap.a' (2 shown): (/usr/lib64/libtermcap.a) in libs/amd64-libs-dev ;; (/usr/lib/libtermcap.a) in libdevel/libncurses5-dev.
[10:22] <Seveas> ao=esd (in mplayer.conf)
[10:22] <botbuilder> and a 45 GB reiserfs partition
[10:22] <setite> skreet: im not sure why... my monitor works fine automatically with 1680x1050....
[10:22] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: so how would i right that in the console?
[10:22] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: like i incert all the letters 2 decypher and it tries all the combos
[10:22] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: well, what do you mean? Whatever program you have you'd pretty much *have* to tell it first all the things to alter, so it can decypher them
[10:22] <botbuilder> do i need to make something 'bootable'?
[10:22] <botbuilder> holy shit
[10:22] <botbuilder> its imposible to ask a question lol!
[10:23] <skreet> setite: Theres an issue with the first run of the acers where the EDID is completely incorrect and does not report 1680x1050 - my manual modelines arn't working though.
[10:23] <BiSK-8> botbuilder, just ask
[10:23] <botbuilder> I have
[10:23] <botbuilder> i just like spreading it out
[10:23] <mata_svada> ompaul, I'm back
[10:23] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: hm
[10:23] <skreet> botbuilder: Bootable? No, all partitioning is done automatically.
[10:23] <ompaul> mata_svada, and how did it go?
[10:23] <botbuilder> uhm
[10:23] <setite> yea i could never work manual modelines on mine... so its not detecting them... check the forum for your monitor
[10:23] <mata_svada> the errors are written down here http://www.ubuntuusers.de/viewtopic.php?p=80857#80857
[10:23] <botbuilder> well I dont want it to fuckup skreet
[10:23] <botbuilder> so im doing it manual
[10:23] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: did you check the man page? ;-)
[10:23] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: dpkg -i --force-depends <pack>
[10:23] <skreet> setite: Apparently I'm the only person in the world who owns this monitor and has attempted to run linux on it.
[10:24] <ompaul> !tell botbuilder about conduct
[10:24] <botbuilder> i had to delete an old fedora core partition and stuffs
[10:24] <mata_svada> ompaul, It's in german, but you should be able to read the code
[10:24] <skreet> botbuilder: You're more likely to fuck it up than automatic install will.
[10:24] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: looks like you might need the  libraries for libncurses5-dev ?
[10:24] <dylan_> Seveas, where do i find mplayer.conf?  i did a search and it doesnt exist
[10:24] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: something like a brut forcer, but on letters and numbers, not on websites
[10:24] <BiSK-8> bryte*
[10:24] <botbuilder> skreet - dunno
[10:24] <BiSK-8> brute*
[10:24] <BiSK-8> grr
[10:24] <BiSK-8> :D
[10:24] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: thanks
[10:24] <nathanel> blk: umh, no. xserver-xorg is the correct package in breezy
[10:25] <mata_svada> by the way, it happened when I compiled mplayer
[10:25] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: one sec
[10:25] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: correct you are.
[10:25] <nathanel> blk: what version of xorg do you have?
[10:25] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: you can use !find for ubotu to find stuff like that BTW
[10:25] <skreet> setite: Any idea what forum might be able to help me?
[10:25] <ompaul> eamonn, u catch that - it ain'w what either of us tought
[10:25] <BiSK-8> ok
[10:25] <setite> the ubuntu forum .. or linux-questions
[10:25] <blk> nathanel: xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-core and all kind of packages i don't need/want
[10:25] <eamonn> ompaul, I have no idea...
[10:26] <blk> nathanel: 6.8.2-67
[10:26] <skreet> setite: I guess I'll give it a shot, man I know I had this working on my old 6800GT AGP, but now I have a 6600GT PCI-e and no go.
[10:26] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `libqt3c102-mt'
[10:26] <dylan_> Seveas, do you know the answer to this problem?
[10:26] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: Clever irc bot
[10:26] <Seveas> dylan_, /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[10:27] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: gah; it's being silly. You could try just installing the hoary libqt3c102-mt manually then
[10:27] <blk> nathanel: xserver's been modularised for that purpose -> i don't need any kind of weird input-device-drivers or drivers for other graphic-chips
[10:27] <dylan_> Seveas, ive changed the value...lets see if it works
[10:27] <eamonn> mata_svada, I'm afraid that's a bit over my head. How new is this installation? Can you save the data in /home and try to reinstall?
[10:27] <botbuilder> ok, I've got one 64mb boot ext2 partition, a 1GB swap partition, and a 45GB reserfs partition, all on another guy's recommendation.  Should I make one of these 'bootable' - ie the lightning bolt?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: he only knows what he gets told ;) Although cafuego has added some nice search functions
[10:27] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: no easy way to do it, that's for sure. I wouldn't want to whip up a script now :/
[10:28] <botbuilder> And, is this a good idea for a setup?
[10:28] <ssnet> hi
[10:28] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: not added, actually, just configured :P. Blootbot's come with that.
[10:28] <dylan_> Seveas, nothing
[10:28] <ssnet> i am new to linux and ubuntu
[10:28] <apokryphos> *Blootbots
[10:28] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: on win i had a program that was so easy 2 use, now im looking 4 something similar
[10:28] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: where would i find it?
[10:28] <Belutz> ssnet: so am I :)
[10:28] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: thanks for the correction ;-)
[10:28] <dylan_> Seveas, must i reboot or something to make the changes work?
[10:28] <ssnet> i just want to know how to mount my hard drives that i have installed windows on them
[10:28] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: packages.ubuntu.com =)
[10:29] <thoreauputic> !tell ssnet about mountwindows
[10:29] <Belutz> !tell ssnet about windowsdrives
[10:29] <Echelon-H> Do you know of an emule client which supports hebrew?
[10:29] <Belutz> :D
[10:29] <botbuilder> ok, I've got one 64mb boot ext2 partition, a 1GB swap partition, and a 45GB reserfs partition, all on another guy's recommendation.  Should I make one of these 'bootable' - ie the lightning bolt?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: sorry - what was that again?
[10:29] <setite> how do i chmod a folder
[10:30] <exzar> Hey
[10:30] <botbuilder> thoreauputic - I'm installing ubuntu
[10:30] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: you on i386?
[10:30] <mwr1515> ssnet: do you need to mount your hard drives?
[10:30] <Belutz> setite: chmod xxx foldername
[10:30] <setite> xxx
[10:30] <setite> ok
[10:30] <Belutz> setite: change the xxx :D
[10:30] <odatubuntu> apokrypos: yea
[10:30] <setite> ok then that doesnt help
[10:31] <setite> i tried a+x and no good
[10:31] <exzar> I need helt with my MP3 at my Ubuntu.. I just started with Linux all is working fine atm but my MP3 wont play:( Xmms wont work ... any one can help me ?.. plz msg....
[10:31] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt-x11-free/libqt3c102-mt_3.3.3-7ubuntu3_i386.deb
[10:31] <Belutz> setite: hmmm, try using sudo chmod ?
[10:31] <ompaul> mata_svada,  you have well broken it, I think what you should do is burn off your home directory onto a new CD, and then try booting into rescue mode and trying to remove the software that broke the installed system, there is something that you can do to remove this stuff like make uninstall -- not an expert in this but that may help
[10:32] <botbuilder> Not trying to be rude - the code of conduct etc but jeez this channel is crowded.. It'd be nice if it could be split into 2 or 3 like #python
[10:32] <setite> uh huh
[10:32] <eric_> hello all
[10:32] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: will that affect  the other libqt3-mt  ??
[10:32] <eric_> my first time with linux
[10:32] <ompaul> eamonn, that afik should do the trick but not an expert on it .. can help
[10:32] <setite> botbuilder: good luck twith that
[10:32] <apokryphos> botbuilder: it's not always this loud, and it is already split in fact in some way :)
[10:32] <botbuilder> thanks...
[10:32] <nathanel> blk: yes, but the xserver-xorg still provides the configuration infrastructure for the server; if you don't want to configure everything manually you need that package
[10:32] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: don't go to #debian or #gentoo if you think this is crowded :)
[10:32] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: nothing unrecoverable
[10:33] <eamonn> ompaul, I bow before a superior. I wish him luck.
[10:33] <poningru> whats up eric_
[10:33] <botbuilder> thor - hehe
[10:33] <poningru> guys if you have a question just ask it
[10:33] <eric_> not much
[10:33] <ompaul> eamonn, who?>
[10:33] <poningru> don linger
[10:33] <botbuilder> ok, I've got one 64mb boot ext2 partition, a 1GB swap partition, and a 45GB reserfs partition, all on another guy's recommendation.  Should I make one of these 'bootable' - ie the lightning bolt?
[10:33] <poningru> dont*
[10:33] <setite> botbuilder: youll get used to it... its not that bad ive seen infinitely worse
[10:33] <botbuilder> 3rd time ive pasted that ;)
[10:33] <apokryphos> botbuilder: there's #kubuntu #ubuntu #edubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic etc
[10:33] <eric_> any one know how to make a Wifi card work with linux
[10:33] <botbuilder> apok - thats good
[10:33] <jae> Well, got Ubuntu going.
[10:33] <poningru> eric_: what wifi card?
[10:33] <eamonn> eric_, what wifi card?
[10:34] <jae> Think I should install the Debian version of MacOnLinux or just grab the source and compile?
[10:34] <poningru> !tell eric_ about wifi
[10:34] <thoreauputic> eric_: could you be abit more vague?
[10:34] <eric_> I have one built into my notebook
[10:34] <exzar> Is there anyone that can help me with that mp3 problem ? msg me
[10:34] <aircooledmadness> join #ununtu-offtopic
[10:34] <eric_> bare with me please
[10:34] <nathanel> blk: do you have xlibs-data installed?
[10:34] <eric_> I believ it is a broadcom
[10:34] <ompaul> !tell eric_ about ndiswrapper
[10:34] <eric_> where do I go in linux to find out
[10:34] <poningru> eric_: do you have the installer for the thing?
[10:34] <poningru> .inf file
[10:35] <eric_> no
[10:35] <poningru> how did it work in windows?
[10:35] <eric_> the driver came with the note book on an install dvd
[10:35] <botbuilder> oh what the hell
[10:35] <botbuilder> I'll just guess
[10:35] <setite> poningru: how else do they work in windows
[10:35] <Seveas> thoreauputic, show-off ;)
[10:35] <botbuilder> and make a random partition bootable -_-
[10:35] <thoreauputic> ah well that works.. nice
[10:36] <apokryphos> heh
[10:36] <poningru> setite: *shrug*
[10:36] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hah - I was testing an alias :P
[10:36] <Seveas> :)
[10:36] <dv_> hmm how can I see if the correct DMA modes for my dvd-rom drive are set?
[10:36] <Seveas>  /kick #ubuntu thoreauputic Testing a kick...
[10:36] <waterbaby999> just reading up, are you having trouble with a broadcom wireless chipset? if so I'm about to tackle mine using this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[10:36] <apokryphos> Hm, reminds me, I should make an alias for +q
[10:36] <dv_> I experience some stuttering when playing a DVD
[10:36] <Seveas> broadcoms are evil
[10:36] <Seveas> for some theey work, for some not
[10:36] <poningru> !tell dv_ about dma
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Seveas: OK OK - I promise to be humble ;)
[10:37] <waterbaby999> broadcom = irritating
[10:37] <guerby> hi, with ubuntu 2.10 in server mode is ssh-server enabled by default? (wasn't in 5.04)
[10:37] <Seveas> There is no ubuntu 2.10
[10:37] <setite> broadcom = evil and will ONLY work with ndiswrapper...
[10:37] <ssnet> thanks for the help
[10:37] <Seveas> if you mean 5.10: then still no
[10:38] <setite> the bcm5 soemthing driver on the dvd ... use that
[10:38] <eric_> is there a place in linux that will give me a list of connected hardware
[10:38] <setite> !hcl
[10:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, setite
[10:38] <setite> grrr... no hcl on ubotu
[10:38] <poningru> ubotu: you teh suck
[10:38] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:38] <Blissex> eric_: a few places is more like it.
[10:38] <Seveas> eric_, lshw / lshal / lcpci / lsusb
[10:38] <eric_> okay
[10:38] <Agrajag> lspci, not lcpci
[10:38] <Seveas> true :)
[10:39] <setite> ok how do i chown a folder so that i completely own it..
[10:39] <guerby> setite, ooops 5.10 :)
[10:39] <mindphasr> Any known problems with automounting flash cards? They seem to mount but i cant get them to show up in the "Computer" window like they used to..?
[10:39] <setite> i sudo chmod a+x /foo to no avail
[10:39] <guerby> Seveas, ok, any reason for that setting?
[10:39] <Seveas> yes
[10:40] <dv_> cool! DVDs are playing well now.
[10:40] <setite> no reasons.. there are no reasons in linux
[10:40] <Seveas> installing an ssh server is not always needed
[10:40] <setite> all of it is voodoo malarchy
[10:40] <guerby> Seveas, for a _server_ mode install?
[10:40] <Seveas> granted for servers it is usually useful, but 'server' mode is misnamed
[10:40] <blk> nathanel: that may have been a good tip, xlibs-data wasn't installed
[10:40] <thoreauputic> setite: hah :D
[10:41] <setite> thoreauputic: can you tell me how to own the folder... so i can get my wifi.. i found out why it doesnt work but i need to be able to download files to teh folder
[10:41] <guerby> Seveas, server mode is not for server?
[10:41] <eamonn> eric_, if your card isn't recognized on startup, you might have to use ndiswrapper (I do, and it works fine). Here's a thread on the forums that describes how to use it: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2649.html
[10:41] <mata_svada_> ompaul, did you read the error discription??
[10:42] <Seveas> guerby, 'server' installs only ubuntu-base, so ubuntu without fluffy desktop things
[10:42] <thoreauputic> setite: why do you actually need to chown / chmod ?
[10:42] <setite> eric_: if its a broadcom YOU HAVE TO USE NDISWRAPPER.. the drivers are closed as hell and there will NEVER be a linux driver
[10:42] <setite> thoreauputic: chown.. haha i was chmodding
[10:42] <guerby> Seveas, yes, exactly what is needed for servers in rack for example
[10:42] <Seveas> guerby, true :)
[10:42] <ompaul> mata_svada, scroll back 11 minutes to get my answer
[10:42] <guerby> Seveas, anyway I'll file a request to canonical for that
[10:42] <Seveas> guerby, it will not be changed
[10:43] <thoreauputic> setite:   voodoo a+x /path/to/malarchy ;P
[10:43] <Seveas> desktop systems install ubuntu-base too and on desktop systems an ssh server is against the ubuntu policy
[10:43] <setite> yea chowning isnt working.. gah
[10:43] <mata_svada> ompaul, could you please post it again?
[10:43] <guerby> Seveas, at least I'll get a reason why "server" mode doesn't install ssh-server
[10:43] <setite> nvm
[10:43] <Seveas> the reason is what I just said
[10:44] <Seveas> desktop systems install ubuntu-base too and on desktop systems an ssh server is against the ubuntu policy
[10:44] <odatubuntu> apokryphos:  i have it installed now so can i uninstall that libqt library and replace it with the newer one?
[10:44] <ompaul> mata_svada,  you have well broken it, I think what you should do is burn off your home directory onto a new CD, and then try booting into rescue mode and trying to remove the software that broke the installed system, there is something that you can do to remove this stuff like make uninstall -- not an expert in this but that may help
[10:44] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: yah
[10:44] <thoreauputic> setite: do you need to own evrything in the directory? chmod -R you:you
[10:44] <bulletino> Is there somebody from the netherlands ?
[10:44] <Seveas> bulletino, ja
[10:44] <Seveas> !nl
[10:44] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[10:45] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: chown, no?
[10:45] <setite> yea i got it... chown USER foo.. i forgot that....
[10:45] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: aargh - yes f course - brain lapse
[10:45] <setite> there was nothing oto own in the directory
[10:45] <robertj> has anyone here been following UbuntuExpress closely?
[10:45] <setite> because i couldnt put anything ther...
[10:45] <bulletino> oke dan :P
[10:45] <setite> all better now
[10:45] <thoreauputic> setite: sorry apokryphos is right
[10:45] <bulletino> dan ben ik toch niet de enigste :)
[10:46] <setite> thoreauputic: yup... i noticed the mistake :)
[10:46] <thoreauputic> setite: OK :)
[10:46] <Seveas> bulletino, er zijn er genoeg :) Maar hier praten we engels. Als je liever Nederlands praat, kom dan naar #ubuntu-nl
[10:46] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: k thanx a lot man i appreciate it :)
[10:46] <thoreauputic> setite: all that voodoo affected my brain ;-)
[10:47] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: no worries; good to hear it working. :)
[10:48] <odatubuntu> apokryphos:  hmmm if i try to remove and replace then it wants to remove qjoypad too
[10:48] <odatubuntu> :(
[10:49] <robertj> btw, anyone here have any of the golf shirts from cafepress? Are they comfortable?
[10:49] <setite> ok this tutorial is screwy
[10:49] <setite> http://lists.linux-wlan.com/pipermail/linux-wlan-devel/2004-September/003002.html
[10:49] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: ok, nevermind; you can just leave it.
[10:49] <setite> everythign is error
[10:49] <setite> ing
[10:49] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: as long as you keep the other packages installed.
[10:50] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: well when i installed libqt3 whatever  it uninstalled a ton of stuff that was dependant on the other
[10:51] <Hikaru79> Is it possible to mount an .iso image?
[10:51] <nightswim> yes
[10:51] <Hikaru79> Without burning it.
[10:51] <Hikaru79> nightswim, how? Just as a regular fs?
[10:51] <setite> thoreauputic: do you mind looking at that for any apparent flaws?
[10:51] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: the libqt3c102-mt removed other things?
[10:51] <regeya> wheee
[10:52] <odatubuntu> apokryphos, yea it removed about 5 things
[10:52] <thoreauputic> setite: looking - but I'm no expert I fear :)
[10:52] <setite> yes but your no idiot lik eme
[10:52] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: if you try to reinstall libqt3 now does it try to remove the qjoypad?
[10:53] <odatubuntu> apokryphos, yea
[10:53] <thoreauputic> setite: umm - how far did you get without errors?
[10:53] <setite> not far at all
[10:53] <thoreauputic> setite: quite a few lines to execute there...
[10:54] <setite> second step 2
[10:54] <setite> the tar
[10:54] <setite> even though i have that file in the folder
[10:54] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: hm, ok, annoying. If you can't compile at all from source, then only other real thing you can do is stay put (see if you get problems in the future), or modify the deb to change the dependencies
[10:54] <thoreauputic> setite: and what was the error?
[10:54] <setite> hold on something is screwy
[10:54] <setite> i think my chown didnt work right
[10:55] <setite> ls is not showing the files i know are there... ok lemme try something
[10:55] <gerarcone> how can i do to set the dimensions of the terminal window permanently?
[10:55] <Belutz> i'm off to bed guys
[10:56] <setite> also i see that his tutorial has a different ending for the patch... so i think the forum added the .obj
[10:56] <setite> nite Belutz
[10:56] <gerarcone> now i should resize it every time!
[10:56] <Belutz> nite setite :)
[10:57] <moonchilde> Hello, I have a Dell Inspiron 5100 that I just installed Ubuntu on, and I am trying to get the <Fn> F8 LCD/CRT keyboard switch to work and I am out of ideas.  I've trolled the web & forums to no avail.   Help would be appreciated! :)
[10:57] <setite> thoreauputic: please go to #flood
[10:58] <thoreauputic> setite: why not use the pastebin?
[10:58] <setite> dont lkike it.. and your already there... is see the problem though
[10:59] <setite> the guy forgot a -
[10:59] <setite> whats gzip do
[10:59] <ompaul> setite, the down side of #flood is that people do not have a single point of refence
[10:59] <setite> zip the file
[11:00] <setite> ompaul: indeed.. but for simple things i prefer flood.. if its real long.. or something i really want a log of... i use pastebin
[11:01] <red_blood> question: i have a device /dev/ttyLTM0, that is my winmodem device, its is created automatically at the boot, but my user haven't permissions to use it, then i do chmod a+rwx /dev/ttyLTM0... how i do that the permissions change automatically at the boot? (sorry for my english)
[11:02] <vlasto> hi guys
[11:02] <setite> ok thoreauputic new hangup
[11:02] <setite> suffix ifnored on step 3
[11:02] <setite> s/ifnored/ignored
[11:03] <inza> lo i have a little problem, i have xp installed and have a part of my HD free for linux, so I let ubuntu chose and make the partitions. But it gives an error if ubunti is installing. It says: "unable to install the selected kernel". Could someone help me??
[11:03] <setite> the file is a .patch.obj.. i renamed it to that of the tutorial... no avail
[11:03] <Daedalus> what is sequencer? i'm trying to run mma or pmidi and it can't work because i dont have /dev/sequencer.
[11:05] <thoreauputic> setite:  gzip -d linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1pre21-x86_64.patch.bz2  <-- why would he be using gzip to unzip a bz2 ? I don't follow that
[11:05] <Seveas> hehehe
[11:05] <botbuilder> ok
[11:05] <eric_> okay sorry to bother again I need help installing a driver and I know little about linux
[11:05] <Seveas> bzip2 -d would work better :)
[11:05] <botbuilder> I've gotten ubuntu to boot and everything
[11:06] <apokryphos> or even tar
[11:06] <botbuilder> now xwindows throws a fit
[11:06] <nathanel> Daedalus: /dev/sequencer the device node to access the midi hardware on your soundchard
[11:06] <jtan325> is there a music player that has search functionality, similiar to itunes/winamp?
[11:06] <Seveas> tar would do nothing :)
[11:06] <botbuilder> how do i start xwindows..
[11:06] <botbuilder> lol
[11:06] <Daedalus> nathanel, and if i dont have one?
[11:06] <Daedalus> nathanel, btw, are you from israel?
[11:06] <Seveas> botbuilder, did you install with server or expert option?
[11:07] <apokryphos> Seveas: whoop, only saw the very last suffix there
[11:07] <nathanel> Daedalus: no
[11:07] <ganjaben> salut
[11:07] <setite> thoreauputic: yea i see that is the problem... i dunno.. .hes stupid perhaps?
[11:07] <setite> but hes on to something... so imma work through his flawed tutorial
[11:07] <ganjaben> a chaque foix que vous me voyez ici, c'est windows qui plante exag ^^
[11:08] <thoreauputic> bunzip2 ?
[11:08] <setite> whats gzip -d anyway
[11:08] <Seveas> ganjaben, english please
[11:08] <ganjaben> sorry i go in french lol
[11:08] <thoreauputic> setite: equivalent to gunzip
[11:08] <setite> well doesnt tar work for bz2
[11:08] <Madpilot> ganjaben: try #ubuntu-fr
[11:08] <Seveas> setite, no
[11:08] <Seveas> tar works for tar
[11:08] <thoreauputic> setite: it isn't a tar file
[11:08] <Seveas> optionally for tar.gz and tar.bz2
[11:08] <Seveas> but not for patch.bz2 :)
[11:08] <setite> thoreauputic: whey does line 2 use tar on a bz2
[11:09] <setite> oh ok
[11:09] <ompaul> difference is 15 mins arrrr
[11:09] <setite> so what do i need to use... bunzip2?
[11:09] <Seveas> Sun Sep 18 21:09:18 UTC 2005
[11:09] <nathanel> Daedalus: if you have no supported midi hardware you could try some software emulation like timidity. if you have a midi capable soundcard you are very likely just missing a driver for it
[11:09] <Seveas> ompaul,  :)
[11:09] <thoreauputic> setite: tar xvjf if it's a tar.bz2
[11:09] <Logtime> i've installed pftp how can launch it???
[11:09] <red_blood> question: i have a device /dev/ttyLTM0, that is my winmodem device, its is created automatically at the boot, but my user haven't permissions to use it, then i do chmod a+rwx /dev/ttyLTM0... how i do that the permissions change automatically at the boot? (sorry for my english)..
[11:09] <setite> i dotn wknow ahwat it is
[11:09] <Logtime> i've installed pftp how can launch it???
[11:09] <ompaul> Seveas, mailing list 2.6 kernel something
[11:09] <setite> the file is a patch.obj
[11:09] <joakim> How can I stream .pls files? Which player? I tried XMMS, and it aint really working :)
[11:09] <setite> ark opens it as a .bz2
[11:10] <robertj> nathanel: how many hardware cards don't do midi these days?
[11:10] <mindframe> how do i add a binary to my users path?
[11:10] <Logtime> i've installed pftp how can launch it???
[11:10] <robertj> nathanel: including on-board
[11:10] <thoreauputic> setite:  run  'file" on it
[11:10] <Seveas> joakim: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[11:10] <Seveas> Logtime: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[11:10] <setite> file?
[11:10] <setite> ok
[11:10] <thoreauputic> setite:  like  file foo  ( tells you what it actually is)
[11:11] <Logtime> oookkk
[11:11] <mindframe> Logtime, maybe type pftd in a terminal ?
[11:11] <nadroj> hi all, i have no sound. alsamixer is unmuted and turned up, and sound card is recognized and said to be running.  what could be causing the problem?
[11:11] <joakim> Seveas, I can play normal .mp3 files with XMMS, but I can't seem to get XMMS to stream files. Did I misunderstand your instruction or was it the other way round? :)
[11:11] <mindframe> *ptfp
[11:11] <setite> linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1pre21-x86_64.patch.obj: bzip2 compressed data, block size = 900k
[11:11] <Seveas> joakim, discard my instruction then
[11:11] <thoreauputic> setite: there you go
[11:11] <eric_> could someone direct me to some good newbie reading material so I can figure out how to install a driver??
[11:11] <Seveas> .pls is a playlist, try one of the streams from that list
[11:11] <Creart> a question; Is it possible to use multiple monitors with ubuntu?
[11:11] <setite> ok well what do i use with it
[11:11] <setite> ok nvm imma use ark
[11:12] <apokryphos> eric_: the wiki is always great
[11:12] <slack7384> Creart: You should be able to, if your vid card supports it ;-)
[11:12] <thoreauputic> setite:  bunzip2 normally
[11:12] <Seveas> setite, bzip2 -d linux-blabla.patch.bz2 | patch -p0
[11:12] <eric_> wikipedia??
[11:12] <Seveas> eric_, wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <eric_> okay
[11:12] <eric_> gotya
[11:12] <Echelon-H> how can i get /dev/sequencer?
[11:12] <Logtime> help?
[11:12] <Creart>  slack7384: it does... but i can't find the menu...
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I assume bzip2 -d is equivalent to bunzip2 ?
[11:13] <Madpilot> does anyone know where Enemy Territory stores it's .desktop file?
[11:13] <Logtime> Anyone use pftp???
[11:13] <Seveas> thoreauputic, I assume the same :)
[11:13] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[11:13] <setite> damnit ark keeps freezing up my pc when i attempt to extract the file
[11:13] <Echelon-H> how can i get /dev/sequencer?
[11:13] <waterbaby999> im getting a whole load of errors with trying to apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils .. anyone able to help?  Dependency problems possibly
[11:13] <RMeist> hi *,
[11:13] <setite> what do i use for bz2 that is not .tar.bz2
[11:13] <Seveas> waterbaby999, paste the entire load on the pastebin
[11:13] <apokryphos> waterbaby999: pastebin the problems then produce the url here
[11:13] <Seveas> setite, bzip2 -d
[11:14] <waterbaby999> its on another machine
[11:14] <waterbaby999> gimme a sec
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: you probably need to modprobe some modules ( snd_seq  or something similar )
[11:14] <RMeist> q: does ubuntu's apt-get work with debian sites?
[11:14] <Echelon-H> modprobe?
[11:14] <Seveas> RMeist, yes, but you should NOT mix ubuntu and debian
[11:14] <apokryphos> RMeist: you should generally use it
[11:14] <apokryphos> *shouldn't
[11:15] <thoreauputic> setite: we already told you that, old boy ^^^
[11:15] <Seveas> RMeist, almost all that's in debian is in Ubuntu, what do you want to grab from debian?
[11:15] <Logtime> i've installed pftp how can launch it???
[11:15] <Seveas> Logtime: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[11:15] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2316
[11:15] <RMeist> Seveas: I'd like to apt-get eterm but its not in my downloaded package list, so nothing deb specific
[11:15] <Echelon-H> thoreauputic, what's modprobe and the snd_seq?
[11:15] <apokryphos> RMeist: it's in the repos
[11:16] <Seveas> RMeist, there's an UBuntu package for eterm
[11:16] <Seveas> !info eterm
[11:16] <ubotu> eterm: (Enlightened Terminal Emulator), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.2-8 (hoary), Packaged size: 427 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB
[11:16] <apokryphos> RMeist: make sure you enable the Universe repo
[11:16] <Seveas> !repos
[11:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: modules are "drivers" in  your kernel - modprobe activates them (more or less)
[11:16] <setite> nah you said bunzip2
[11:16] <Logtime> Seveas, oooookkkkkkkkkkk
[11:16] <RMeist> apokryphos: let me modify my source.list
[11:16] <setite> and i didnt know the -d either
[11:16] <Echelon-H> thoreauputic, and the snd_seq is a driver ipresume?
[11:16] <Echelon-H> how am i supopsed to get it?
[11:16] <apokryphos> Logtime: please don't be annoying; it's common courtesey to not flood :)
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: if you are trying to get midi working I can get you a few links...
[11:17] <Echelon-H> thoreauputic, i'd be more than happy.
[11:17] <joakim> Seveas, thanks, I got it working with another radio stream.
[11:17] <Logtime> apokryphos,  oooookkkkk
[11:17] <camil> huzeirkr
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: OK - this is an ugly URL from my bookmarks :)
[11:18] <thoreauputic> http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/0/c4b39482154feb03ca256f8100150ad9?OpenDocument
[11:18] <mindframe> Logtime: google.com
[11:18] <Psyche-> hello there
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: ^^^^
[11:18] <Psyche-> i'm trying to make a kernel upgrade
[11:18] <RMeist> apokryphos: its set to universe:S
[11:18] <Echelon-H> thoreauputic, hehe, thx. ill check it out
[11:18] <Psyche-> so i did 'apt-get install linux-image-2.6.11-1-k7'
[11:18] <Seveas> Psyche-, BAD idea
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: also http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8736.html
[11:18] <apokryphos> RMeist: sorry?
[11:18] <Psyche-> system boots ok, but it freezes when starting gnome
[11:18] <Seveas> the 2.6.11 packages are known to be broken and unsupported
[11:18] <Seveas> downgrade to 2.6.10
[11:19] <Psyche-> Seveas, how do I uninstall it?
[11:19] <Seveas> Psyche-, reboot and choose the 2.6.10 kernel
[11:19] <RMeist> Seveas: my repo is set to universe, apt-get however doesn't recognize eterm
[11:19] <setite> woot config successful.. maybe this will work
[11:19] <Psyche-> yeah, did that already
[11:19] <RMeist> apokryphos: my repo is set to universe, apt-get however doesn't recognize eterm
[11:19] <RMeist> Seveas: sorry
[11:19] <Psyche-> but i want o remove that package too
[11:19] <Seveas> RMeist, there is no such thing as 'set to universe'
[11:19] <apokryphos> RMeist: did you check the link provided?
[11:19] <Psyche-> and free some space
[11:19] <setite> ahhhH!!H!H!H!H!
[11:19] <setite> still erroring
[11:19] <setite> ok screw this... windows...
[11:19] <Seveas> Psyche-, remove all linux-2.6.11 packages with synaptic
[11:20] <apokryphos> RMeist: once the line wiht universe is uncommented, sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude install eterm
[11:20] <RMeist> apokryphos: yes,
[11:20] <Seveas> RMeist, paste your sources.list on the pastebin
[11:20] <Psyche-> ok, guess i should follow the instructions about compiling a new kernel at wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <RMeist> ok:)
[11:20] <Seveas> Psyche-, no, you should stick to ubuntu-provided kernels
[11:20] <fortnox> Hey guys
[11:20] <Seveas> why do you want to upgrade?
[11:20] <Psyche-> Seveas, for the sound to work
[11:20] <mindframe> ompaul, how should i go about enabling java since sun wont let ubuntu distribute a package?
[11:20] <Seveas> Psyche-, then you'd better completely upgrade to Breezy
[11:20] <Psyche-> Seveas, in debian it works fine after a kernel update
[11:21] <ompaul> Seveas, are those packages back?
[11:21] <Psyche-> hmm, but Breezy is not final, afaik
[11:21] <Seveas> ompaul, yah :)
[11:21] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2316 <-- problem with trying to install ndiswrapper if anyone's able to help :)
[11:21] <Seveas> Psyche-, no, but it's in good shape
[11:21] <Psyche-> but i can't find packages like smarty, phpmyadmin, gnomad2 in breezy
[11:21] <Psyche-> is it safe to use 5.04 repositories too ?
[11:21] <ompaul> mindframe, lets just say do it the way you were going to they have been restorted the interenet is a strange and wonderful thing
[11:22] <Seveas> waterbaby999, dpkg -P console-data
[11:22] <blk> nathanel: thanks for your help it kinda worked..
[11:22] <ompaul> mindframe, that might be internet
[11:22] <Seveas> waterbaby999, aptitude install ubuntu-minimal
[11:22] <waterbaby999> errors from that
[11:22] <mindframe> hah
[11:22] <bamama> how to install kernel source in ubuntu?
[11:22] <Seveas> bamama, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[11:22] <waterbaby999> errors from second as well .. will paste
[11:22] <ompaul> mindframe, working yet?
[11:23] <mindframe> ompaul, still cant see the package.  do i need to add a hoary-backport source?
[11:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> can anyone offer me any advice getting my sound working after changing kernels.  it stops working whenever i change kernels, and then i have to muck with it for hours for it to suddenly work for no apparent reason.
[11:23] <ompaul> mindframe, apt-get update
[11:23] <Seveas> Psyche-, phpmyadmin is in breezy too
[11:23] <Seveas> look better
[11:23] <blk> nathanel: now i just can't access Alt-Gr keys because it's an apple keyboard and the mapping of the key to mode_Switch doesn't seem to work as it once did..
[11:23] <mindframe> did.
[11:23] <ompaul> mindframe, sudp apt-get update
[11:23] <ompaul> mindframe, sudo apt-get update <<<<<<<<<< correct version
[11:23] <p8ntballer> hey how do i login to root
[11:23] <p8ntballer> ??
[11:23] <p8ntballer> it never gave me a password
[11:23] <Seveas> p8ntballer, not
[11:23] <ompaul> !tell p8ntballer about root
[11:23] <Seveas> you should not need that
[11:24] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2317
[11:24] <p8ntballer> i need to get permission to my var/www folder
[11:24] <ompaul> p8ntballer, bot messaged url  will tell you everything you need
[11:24] <p8ntballer> for my apache server
[11:24] <mindframe> ompaul, still not showing up when i apt-cache search sun-j2re1.5
[11:24] <inza> type 'su'
[11:24] <RMeist> *, tnx :)
[11:24] <Seveas> p8ntballer, sudo chmod *whatever you want*
[11:24] <Seveas> mindframe, mind if I send you a private message?
[11:24] <mindframe> go ahead.
[11:24] <blk> could someone please tell my to what your Alt-Gr key is mapped in xev (e.g. left ctrl is Control_L)?
[11:25] <bamama> how to open NTFS partition in ubuntu?
[11:25] <ttrocal> Hello, I just tried to dist-upgrade to the Breezy preview from Hoary, but a system instability problem that's been plaguing me restarted the X-server halfway through and killed synaptic.  Now all the packages are in limbo, and I can't even get the x-server to start.  dpkg --configure -a yields the error 'Processing was halted because there were too many errors.'  How can I get the dist-upgrade restarted?
[11:25] <fortnox> hey could anyone help me out with this problem I have?
[11:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> fortnox you'll have to ask the question first.
[11:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> then we'll know
[11:25] <blk> ttrocal: try apt-get -f install
[11:25] <Draal> noob question ~ When installing programs, is it possible to pick a default directory to install to that is on another partition? Also, is it possible to load settings/program files to another partition?
[11:25] <Seveas> Draal, no/no
[11:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can't get sound working, although the light comes on on my spdif connection, and xmms shows eq bars as if it's playing.
[11:26] <ttrocal> blk: It stops with an error saying that Gnumeric needs to be reinstalled but it can't find the archive.
[11:26] <fortnox> well when i do a "fglrxinfo" i get - Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:26] <fortnox>  - although i do not use xfree and its not installed
[11:26] <Draal> Seveas ~ Why not? I don't feel comfortable having my files/programs on the same partition as my OS
[11:26] <Madpilot> omp: I know that feeling... ;)
[11:26] <Seveas> Draal, you're too windows-minded
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Draal: the files have to go in the right places as dicated by the package management etc - you don't screw around with it
[11:26] <Seveas> don't worry about such things
[11:26] <Madpilot> ompaul: meh... I know the burn-the-PC feeling... (blasted tab-complete...)
[11:27] <Echelon-H> what is the alsa package in sudo apt-get install?
[11:27] <Draal> Seveas, so what happens if I need to reinstall the OS/
[11:27] <erUSUL> well, my first question here... i have problems mounting a partition. it have always mounted it without problems but now
[11:27] <Draal> ?
[11:27] <erUSUL> (i use it from time to time so i do not know when exactly it began to fail) it is imposible. Is vfat and mount always return
[11:27] <erUSUL> that the device is already mounted or that the mount point is busy. *Any clue?*
[11:27] <RMeist> Seveas: pasted on pastebin
[11:27] <blk> ttrocal: maybe dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gnumeric* followd by an apt-get -f install
[11:27] <pluffsy> hello
[11:27] <Draal> Seveas, or how do I create a single directory for me to backup?
[11:27] <ompaul> Draal, put them in places and invent something new - it may have a Linux Kernel but it will not be Ubuntu or any linux that anyone else will ever work on :)
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Draal: you don't need to reinstall the OS - this is linux
[11:28] <blk> can someone please start xev and tell me to what Alt-Gr is bound?
[11:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> Seveas a lot of the programs you have, ARE your OS.
[11:28] <pluffsy> can I somehow tell a harddrive to erm I'm not sure what it's called. stop spinning, sleep or whatever.
[11:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> err.. Draal
[11:28] <oO[NOVA] Oo> question: weird thing with USB external harddisk casing. i plug it in, absolutely nothing happens (that i can see). is there anything i can do to find some more debug info on usb devices or get some help on this?
[11:28] <Seveas> Draal, you probably only want to backup /etc and /home
[11:28] <ompaul> blk, run xev and see for yourself
[11:28] <eventualbuddha> i'm having a problem installing freetds: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VeWz7H95.html
[11:28] <pluffsy> right now it takes quite some time of not using my disk until it spins down
[11:28] <Hoxzer> what could be the problem if my floppy can't read like anything and in windows it is reading well
[11:28] <eventualbuddha> any ideas?
[11:28] <RMeist> oO[NOVA] Oo: dmesg?
[11:28] <tristanmike> Draal, why exactly do you feel uncomfortable having your programs on the same drive?
[11:28] <erUSUL> for the record knoppix mount it without problems
[11:28] <Seveas> RMeist, that sources.list is fubar
[11:28] <oO[NOVA] Oo> RMeist: i'll google on that and see if i can find something
[11:29] <RMeist> Seveas: :S
[11:29] <ompaul> Draal, as Seveas siad with any web if you do that
[11:29] <Seveas> RMeist, use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 as sources.list
[11:29] <blk> ompaul: i've got an apple keyboard here and i'm trying to get a standard pc105 keyboard out of it
[11:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> could anyone give me even the most modest help getting my sound working?
[11:29] <Draal> Tristanmike; reinstalling the os and having one place to look for to backup my files
[11:29] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2317 <-- the errors i got when doing what was suggested in response to my previous comment .. not sure if anyone saw me paste the link earlier ... rather busy today ;)
[11:29] <ttrocal> blk: That returned errors, but I went ahead and tried to -f install again anyway and it seems to be working now.  Thanks, I'll wait untill it's done with that, now...
[11:29] <Seveas> Draal, again you're too windows minded
[11:29] <ompaul> blk, then maybe I'll tell ya hang on
[11:29] <Seveas> reinstalling is not needed on linux
[11:29] <Draal> Seveas ~ Linux is not fool proof
[11:29] <Seveas> true
[11:29] <Gnonthgol> BROKEN_LADDER: what card?
[11:29] <_Logtime> hi
[11:29] <blk> ompaul: that'd be very kind!
[11:30] <eventualbuddha> anyone know anything about freetds?
[11:30] <Seveas> but the windows approach between separating os and programs is foolish (where would you draw the line?)
[11:30] <thoreauputic> Draal: of course, but it is normally fixable after the fool is finished ;P
[11:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> Gnonthgol ICH5 onboard audio.  Realtek chipset.
[11:30] <tristanmike> Draal, I think it's more of a case of getting use to the way Linux does things, and how you back up your files with it
[11:30] <Seveas> backing up /home (where you store personal data) and /etc (configuration) is enough
[11:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> Gnonthgol i think it uses ac97
[11:31] <Draal> Tristanmike ~ alright.. Then I guess what I am asking, is there a way to simplify the backup proccess?
[11:31] <kevor> how do i put kerneloption CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y ??
[11:31] <tristanmike> Draal, see Seveas comment just above
[11:31] <blk> kevor: nano -w /usr/src/linux/.config
[11:32] <kevor> that requeres a recompile of the kernel?
[11:32] <Seveas> Draal, simple backup: tar zcvf /tmp/backup.tar.gz /home /etc
[11:32] <Seveas> kevor, yes
[11:32] <kevor> hmm
[11:32] <kevor> is that riscy Seveas
[11:32] <Seveas> kevor, yes
[11:32] <Seveas> it is if you don't know what you are doing
[11:32] <tristanmike> honest
[11:32] <Alec`> Q: does ubuntu have option not to overwrite MBR during install?
[11:32] <RMeist> Seveas: I thank you
[11:32] <Draal> Thanks "cough"
[11:32] <Seveas> and enabling CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL without kernel knowledge is VERY risky
[11:32] <kevor> is there another way to get on a VPN network with ubuntu?
[11:33] <p8ntballer> i cant get permissions to my www/var folder
[11:33] <Seveas> kevor, openvpn, vpnc ...
[11:33] <krak> Hello
[11:33] <p8ntballer> how do i do that?
[11:33] <kevor> tried vpnc, but that really blows :)
[11:33] <Seveas> p8ntballer, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www
[11:33] <Draal> Seveas ~ Will that cover all personal files and program settings?
[11:33] <Seveas> yes
[11:33] <Gnonthgol> Seveas: Is emu10k1 in the kernel? what versions?
[11:33] <krak> is here any good person which knows little of bash scripting??
[11:33] <ompaul> blk, paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:33] <Seveas> Gnonthgol, it is there, don't know which version
[11:34] <Seveas> krak, #bash
[11:34] <geneo93> depends on which kernel
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Draal: your settings are mostly in dot files (hidden files in linux) in your /home/you directory
[11:34] <Seveas> or ask your specific question
[11:34] <krak> yes bash
[11:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> okay, i can get sound through my analog output, just not my spdif.
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Draal: more general settings are mostly in /etc
[11:34] <blk> ompaul: thanks a lot
[11:34] <krak> ok
[11:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> and now the digital is working. too.
[11:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> dammit
[11:35] <Alec`> Q: does Ubuntu have option not to overwrite MBR during installation?
[11:35] <ompaul> Draal, and the os does not rely on the file extention to make it executable its just not windows :)
[11:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> this just makes no sense!!  i spent hours trying to get my audio working, then it just works suddenly for no FU&**ing reason!!!
[11:35] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2317 <-- the errors i got when doing what was suggested in response to my previous comment .. not sure if anyone saw me paste the link earlier but would appreciate some help if ya have time :)
[11:35] <slack7384> Alec: I think so, but it is an advanced option ;-)
[11:35] <Draal> Ompaul ~ Seems to be my mistake
[11:36] <Draal> Is it possible to define /etc as another partition then?
[11:36] <Seveas> waterbaby999, dpkg -P --force-depends console-data
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Draal: no, /etc/is part of / (root)
[11:36] <Seveas> Draal, that's agains filesystem standards
[11:36] <blk> ompaul: it's even working :)
[11:36] <Seveas> (which means: it may be technically possible, but it will break things)
[11:36] <Draal> Okay.. Thank you
[11:36] <Seveas> putting /home on a different partition is common practice though :)
[11:37] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, it works for a reason,  something you did between the last time you tested it and now, up arrow can show shell commands, and language is something we can do without
[11:37] <Gnonthgol> Seveas: well, my SB Live! worked in Warthy but not in Hoary. I have met others facing the same problem eaven in Breazy
[11:37] <Draal> Ah.. Alright
[11:37] <Alec`> slack7384: i am advanced enough, managed to install debian and mepis so my NT loader was intact. Now I heard Ubuntu is very user-friendly and afraid it will overwrite MBR by default. Now where can I tweak that?
[11:37] <waterbaby999> ok Seveas, i did that ... it did some stuff
[11:37] <waterbaby999> shall i try again?
[11:37] <ompaul> blk, why am I not surprised :)
[11:37] <Seveas> waterbaby999, paste the output on the bin
[11:37] <waterbaby999> oklies
[11:37] <thoreauputic> Draal: usually you would have a / partition, a swap partiton and a /home partition (although that's not necessary either)
[11:37] <ompaul> Draal, you can do this
[11:38] <Seveas> waterbaby999, good!
[11:38] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2320
[11:38] <slack7384> Alec`: There should be a CD-boot cheat code that allows you to install GRUB on an floppy
[11:38] <Draal> Ompaul ~ I have Ubuntu installed now along with Gentoo
[11:38] <Seveas> suso apt-get install console-data
[11:38] <Draal> Switching to debian once the discs come in
[11:38] <Draal> Thank you all very much
[11:39] <waterbaby999> was that @ me Seveas?
[11:39] <Seveas> waterbaby999, yes, but it has a typo :)
[11:39] <Seveas> apt-get install console-data
[11:39] <waterbaby999> i was wondering
[11:39] <ompaul> Draal, partition the disk with one partition for /boot another for /bin another for / and another for /home - BUT they all must exist and you do this configuration at install time the only thing that ubuntu and gentoo can safely share are the swap file and personal data that is not related to configuration of mail web browsers as this changes over time
[11:39] <waterbaby999> in my noob state i actually guessed that :P
[11:39] <Alec`> slack7384: floppy is not an option unfortunately. I want grub to be in /boot directory
[11:39] <Gnonthgol> Seveas: can you tell me what difrence there is to the sound drivers in warty and the other?
[11:39] <thoreauputic> ompaul: he left :)
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul no, there's no pattern or rhyme or reason to it.  i do different things every time, and it suddenly "just works"
[11:40] <waterbaby999> Seveas: you want me to paste _all that_ into pastebin? :o
[11:40] <ompaul> thoreauputic, such a nice waste of time
[11:40] <Seveas> waterbaby999, does it output a lot?
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul i even restore a saved copy of the config, and that doesn't fix it.
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> and this happens every time i change my kernel, no matter what.
[11:40] <Seveas> Gnonthgol, ESD
[11:40] <slack7384> Alec`: There should be a cheat for that too.
[11:40] <waterbaby999> Seveas: erm, you could say that :P
[11:40] <persia> Could someone help with with my X keyboard configuration?  I have a Japanese keyboard.  When I set XkbLayout to "jp", the '] ' key does't work, and when I set it to "jp106", the '_' key doesn't work.  Any suggestions?
[11:40] <Seveas> waterbaby999, try to paste it all
[11:41] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, there is some reason, it is just beyond you - why the [many stars in place of words]  are you replacing your kernel
[11:41] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yes, there's some kind of correlation between the windows minded and sudden departures - maybe the reboot reflex?
[11:41] <Seveas> or at least the first 20 lines
[11:41] <waterbaby999> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2321
[11:41] <Turicas> hello all...how i can watch .wmv movies in ubuntu?
[11:41] <red_blood> question: i have a device /dev/ttyLTM0, that is my winmodem device, its is created automatically at the boot, but my user haven't permissions to use it, then i do chmod a+rwx /dev/ttyLTM0... how i do that the permissions change automatically at the boot? (sorry for my english)..
[11:41] <Seveas> waterbaby999, congratz
[11:41] <ompaul> thoreauputic, no doubt but you are right
[11:41] <Seveas> problem is solved :)
[11:41] <Turicas> red_blood, what do you speak ? portuguese?
[11:42] <waterbaby999> groovy beans ... we shall see :)
[11:42] <red_blood> spanish
[11:42] <Seveas> groovy beans.... omg :)
[11:42] <waterbaby999> wahoo
[11:42] <slack7384> Alec`: When Ubuntu asks you if you want to install grub in the mbr say no and type in /dev/hda# (The # is the number of you root partions in my case hda3).
[11:42] <waterbaby999> yah sorry .. im allowed, im a rare breed known as a female :P
[11:42] <Seveas> I've never eaten groovy beans :)
[11:42] <ompaul> Seveas, well there is the phrase - cool beans
[11:42] <waterbaby999> cool beans hot gravy :P
[11:42] <waterbaby999> but i say groovy beans :P
[11:42] <[LethAL] > !tell Turicas about restrictedformats
[11:43] <waterbaby999> now to poke me wifi card into existance
[11:43] <Alec`> slack7384: that wouldbe great. in my case it'd be sda3 then. You sure it asks for that during installation?
[11:43] <persia> red_blood: The easiest way to do that is probably to add your user to the group that has permissions.  If you really want to change the default permissions, take a look at /etc/udev/persmissions.d/
[11:43] <slack7384> Alec`: It should ask where to install GRUB if you say no to installing on the MBR.
[11:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> sure there's a "reason" ompaul.  there's always a reason.  but it's nothing consistent that fixes it.  it has to be related to some type of bug, because there's no consistency to it.
[11:44] <red_blood> thanks persia
[11:44] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, why do you change your kernel?
[11:44] <Alec`> slack7384: then I will proceed to installation without worrying. Thank you
[11:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul in this case, it wasn't working, so i connected the regular line in, not the spdif, and it worked.  i switched back over to the digital line, and wham! it worked
[11:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul upgrades.
[11:44] <slack7384> Alec`: No problem
[11:44] <Hoxzer> just cause im not talking dont mean I'm not listeninggg
[11:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul in this case 2.6.blah-5 instead of 2.6.blah
[11:45] <Hoxzer> you know I love youuu baabyyy try to understaaand
[11:45] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, try having a look in alsamixer - just curious what soundcard?
[11:45] <xerxas_> why debian isn't using dmix ?
[11:45] <Hoxzer> I a maaan on the missiooon
[11:45] <Hoxzer> maybeeeee its magic maaybeee its a chemical reaction :)
[11:45] <xerxas_> s/debian/ubuntu
[11:45] <waterbaby999> woooooooot i think it wooooooooooooooooorks
[11:45] <persia> xerxas_: For Hoary, there are instructions to use dmix in /usr/share/doc/libasound2/examples.  For Breezy, dmix is on by default.
[11:46] <Hoxzer> Waterbaby: are you a girl or a women?
[11:46] <mushroomblue> so, uh.
[11:46] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, hoary / breezy and kernel?
[11:46] <mushroomblue> what's the command to start applications at boot?
[11:46] <waterbaby999> Hoxzer: Depends who is asking :P
[11:46] <xerxas_> persia, i'm on breezy and didn't even noticed i'm using dmix
[11:46] <tristanmike> where would we be without awesome peeps like Seveas and thoreauputic?
[11:46] <mushroomblue> I know the gentoo one, but not ubuntu. :)
[11:46] <Seveas> mushroomblue, there is none
[11:46] <Seveas> you need to add the application to the boot or login script
[11:46] <mushroomblue> wtf
[11:46] <Seveas> tristanmike, at rock bottom :)
[11:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> 2.6.10-34.5 hoary..i thought breezy wasn't out yet.
[11:47] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: probably outside enjoying the sunshine ;)
[11:47] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, it is in testing
[11:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> Card: Intel ICH5
[11:47] <BROKEN_LADDER>  Chip: Realtek ALC650F
[11:47] <bamama> can somebody tell me where I can download "linux-source-2.6.10" package? (link
[11:47] <tristanmike> still staring at the Install Splash Screen wondering if I should press return :)
[11:47] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, it is in test mode - there are a lot of changes every day
[11:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> bamama you could use apt-get i believe
[11:47] <persia> bamana: sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.10 should work.
[11:48] <ttrocal> Alright, thanks to blk's suggestion I think I've finished the apt-get upgrade, but there are four packages that are still broken by dependancy problems (postfix, mutt, lsb-core, and mailx).  I figure one of those must be important, because the X server crashes on startup.  What to do now?
[11:48] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, why don't you download the 'live cd' from the daily run and try it cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:48] <CarlFK> im back on my dialup kick.  is NetworkMagic spozed to do anything with modems?
[11:48] <bamama> BROKEN_LADDER: i tried apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 but it couldn't find the package
[11:48] <Seveas> ttrocal, can you paste the error you get when trying to upgrade these packages
[11:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul there is a vague chance that my old receiver just wasn't playing the signal, but the coincidence with kernel changes makes that seem less likely to be the culprit.
[11:48] <Seveas> ttrocal, also: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <Seveas> that might help with x situations
[11:49] <ttrocal> Seveas: No, because I'm on a different computer than I'm upgrading.  I could type them out if necessary.  I'll try that reconfigure command.
[11:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul why not just upgrade to it?
[11:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> if i wanted to help test it.
[11:49] <thoreauputic> bamama: then your sources are broken - it's in main
[11:49] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, because if it does not work you are not going to be the bunny of happines
[11:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> can't i always just downgrade if i don't like it?
[11:50] <bamama> is there something like karamba for gnome?
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> you mean not boot?
[11:50] <thoreauputic> !info  linux-source-2.6.10
[11:50] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.10: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-34 (hoary), Packaged size: 36633 kB, Installed size: 36756 kB
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul how much different is it?  isn't it just lots of new programs?
[11:50] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, in a word, to be brief, and without much of a do the answer is, emmm no!
[11:50] <CarlFK> BROKEN_LADDER - you can't just downgrade
[11:50] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, that was about the downgrade
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> right.
[11:50] <pluffsy> hello
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> if breezy isn't substantially different i'm happy to wait for it.
[11:51] <ompaul> it has different sound stuff going on which is why I suggested you try the live CD
[11:51] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER,  but no matter your call
[11:52] <pluffsy> I can't get right click emulation to work on my mac. I've used xev to get the keycode for the command key (115) and tried setting both button2 and button3 in /etc/sysctl.conf to 115 but it seems to have no affect (I've restarted between changes)
[11:52] <pluffsy> any ideas?
[11:52] <pluffsy> very frustrating without right click
[11:52] <thoreauputic> bamama: gdesklets (something like karamba) if you enjoy misusing resources ;)
[11:53] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: right click is F12 on ppc
[11:54] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, yeah I know. but it's not very comfortable that's why I tried changing it to keycode 115. but now I just get no working right click.
[11:54] <lonewolff> ooh! thats very handy, didn't know about that one
[11:54] <ttrocal> Seveas: I reconfigured xorg, but now when starting x I get the error "Xsession: unable to srtart X session-no "~/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, no terminal emulators found"
[11:54] <Seveas> ttrocal, sounds like a bigger problem there
[11:54] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: I see - I don't know then - I usually just plug in a tiny USB mouse and use that anyway
[11:55] <Seveas> How did you try to start it?
[11:55] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, right... I don't have any two buttons mouses at all :/
[11:55] <ttrocal> Seveas: "sudo startx"
[11:55] <Seveas> ttrocal, woah bad idea
[11:56] <ttrocal> Seveas: I would use "sudo kdm", but I get the error "sudo: kdm: command not found"
[11:56] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: my 3 button USB mouse with scroll wheel cost less than $15 au
[11:56] <Seveas> either startx or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start should work
[11:56] <sorush20> guys I'm trying to read a CDRW written on a XP .. I keep getting stalled on the GUI copying dialogue but in the terminal with the cp command I get input/output error.. however the image files are copied to a certain extent but not fully.. they are bmp. When I take a look at the result only half of the image has been read and coppied.. can somone help..
[11:57] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, that wasn't much. still would be nice to have the emulation for now :/
[11:58] <ttrocal> Seveas: Alright, I tried the kdm script in init.d, but nothing happens.  No errors or response of any kind.
[11:58] <Seveas> but it goes back to the terminal?
[11:58] <ttrocal> Seveas: Yes, it doesn't seem to attempt to start x at all, no flicker or anything.
[11:58] <Seveas> try <alt><F7>
[11:59] <ttrocal> Seveas: Nothing
[11:59] <char1iecha1k> ok heres a question which is better for linux atheros or intel 11g wireless chipset? so far i have determined that intel is cheaper and they both do WPA but what about linux compatibility?


[10:12] <cpaelzer> jfh: xnox: hey have you seen this on artful: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25871628/ ?
[10:12] <cpaelzer> I'm on a rather old kernel 4.11 in Artful, so I reboot now
[10:12] <cpaelzer> it might all be solved for ages but I wanted to ask to be sure
[10:12] <xnox> cpaelzer, not sure. Is this lpar, z/vm, or kvm?
[10:12] <cpaelzer> usually I remember ASCE differences with KVM, but this seems to pop up every now and then without a guest running
[10:12] <cpaelzer> in lpar
[10:13] <xnox> cpaelzer, are crypto CPACF (?!) instructions enabled in the HMC? and yeah 4.11 is not supported, so do check if you can reproduce with final kernels (4.13?)
[10:13] <cpaelzer> I'll keep the dmesg up after the reboot is complete and IFF it shows again with the most recent kernel I'll file a bug
[10:13] <cpaelzer> xnox: as you see I'm already on repro with 4.13
[10:13] <cpaelzer> :-)
[10:14] <cpaelzer> why would cpacf matter in this case, but well I can check
[10:15] <jfh> cpaelzer: well, there are customer w/o CPACF (even if not many), so that should not be required ...
[10:16] <cpaelzer> I'm on the default with both cpacf checkboxes set
[10:17] <cpaelzer> the error is on a wrong ASCE which I only would connect with KVM - remember the old home/secondary setting
[10:17] <cpaelzer> but as I said no guests required
[10:17] <jfh> ^but didn't saw that so far - tried CDK on s390x on a artful machine last week which is causing heavy load and didn't came across this so far ...
[10:19] <cpaelzer> I have another one on 4.13.0-16-generic without this issue
[10:20] <jfh> cpaelzer: which LPAR are you using?
[10:20] <cpaelzer> so lets assume it was just the too old kernel for now
[10:20] <cpaelzer> s1lp5
[10:26] <jfh> cpaelzer: settings look good ... (anyway, if you want to check if the system is really able to use CPACF just install libica-utils and run icainfo - but looks like 4.13 is fine anyway ...)
[10:27] <cpaelzer> I never asked about cpacf, just referred to xnox question
[10:27] <cpaelzer> but thanks for the double check jfh
[10:28] <cpaelzer> and in any case this dmesg entry might still look known to e.g. hca - any known issue Heiko?
[10:57] <hca> cpaelzer: that looks like a branch into nowhere-land ... if you would happen to know what was mapped at 0x3ff817064e0 then that might give you an idea
[10:58] <hca> but this doesn't have to do anything with cpacf and/or kvm
[10:59] <cpaelzer> hca: I don't know what was around that addr
[10:59] <cpaelzer> hca: thanks for confirming my thoughts on what is not related
[10:59] <cpaelzer> hca: if it happens again I'll look at the addr
[10:59] <cpaelzer> hca: always gpr14 to look at?
[11:00] <cpaelzer> need to find my old docs what usually is in 14
[11:01] <hca> is this included in your kernel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1708399
[11:01] <hca> ?
[11:03] <cpaelzer> yes that would have been in
[11:03] <cpaelzer> on the kernel I had
[11:04] <cpaelzer> I really think this was just an too-old-non-released-kernel issue, don't spend too much cycles on it if it is not "ah that is Foo"
[12:09] <hca> cpaelzer: gpr14 contains the return address if a function gets called
[12:56] <cpaelzer> I found my  old s390x ELF spec pdf in the meantime
[12:56] <cpaelzer> thanks


[13:19] <dandrader> bregma, ping
[13:20] <bregma> pong-ng-g
[13:20] <bregma> dandrader, your SRU was accepted
[13:21] <dandrader> bregma,  yep. do you have a device with a touchscreen running ubuntu? :)
[13:22] <bregma> I do... it's not toally up-to-date (and won't be for at least a few hours)
[13:22] <bregma> the archive servers seem a little overwhelmed this morning for some reason
[14:15] <dandrader> my status report: Continuing the work on a new port of Unity gestures code to use Geis v2 with accept() and reject()
[14:16] <dandrader> bregma, tvoss: stand up meeting
[14:16] <bregma> playing with fancier test case harnesses
[14:20] <bregma> I guess that's done, then
[14:25] <tvoss> restoring my harddisk, cursing the new chromium gr infrastructure
[14:28] <Satoris> Fighting crappy Internet, preparing for sprint, combing through Arsenal.
[14:35] <bregma> tvoss and Satoris, could you copy me on your weekly status reports?  I'm writing the summary report this week in Chase's absence.
[14:36] <Satoris> My previous line pretty much summarizes my weekly report.  Of course.
[14:38] <bregma> hey, _all_ my work is crappy, not just my bugs
[14:38] <Satoris> I focus my crappiness with laser precision on bugs.
[14:39] <Satoris> Especially the ones I file on other projects.
[14:39] <bregma> mmm, the smell of laser-heated bugs, their chitinous carapaces popping like popcorn.....
[14:40] <Satoris> Smells like victory.
[14:41] <bregma> and slightly like burning hair
[14:41] <Satoris> Well, there's that.
[14:43] <Satoris> I have tomorrow off, so see you on Monday.
[15:37] <drostie> Anyone tried kubuntu-active yet?
[15:39] <drostie> it's supposed to have a KDE optimized for touch, just came out.
[15:42] <cnd> bregma, dandrader: the utouch-geis sru should have contained all the bug fixes to date
[15:43] <cnd> srus take a couple weeks to process, so we can't just fix one bug in each sru
[15:44] <bregma> I didn't realize there were more bug fixes available
[15:44] <cnd> bregma, there are like 5
[15:44] <cnd> bug 985916
[15:44] <bregma> I know I have one in the queue, but it's not done yet
[15:44] <cnd> bug 986215
[15:44] <cnd> bug 813819
[15:45] <dandrader> cnd, so what should be done now?
[15:45] <cnd> and then the one that was uploaded, bug 984069
[15:45] <bregma> I will make sure these get in with the next SRU
[15:45] <cnd> I would rather get them fixed in this sru
[15:45] <cnd> can we ask someone on #ubuntu-devel for help?
[15:46] <cnd> it shouldn't be a problem to supersede one sru with another
[15:46] <cnd> particularly because without bug 985916, unity window move gestures don't work right
[15:47] <bregma> with this many bugfixes would it not be better to just do a new upstream release?
[15:47] <cnd> bregma, probably
[15:47] <cnd> as long as the upstream release only contains the fixes
[15:47] <cnd> I think one or two items have been committed that are not strictly bug fixes
[15:47] <bregma> I'll have to check that
[15:47] <cnd> so we will need to consider branching
[15:48] <cnd> thanks bregma, dandrader
[15:48] <bregma> yes, back to my branching process discussion point I've been meaning to finish writing up so we can discuss it next week
[17:15] <bregma> man, it's nice to be playing with C++ again