[14:51] <meadhikari> ActionParsnip, actually the project is some jenkins stuff where they need to implement a vnc server where multiple user can connect to their own x-session
[14:51] <loa> ActionParsnip, can you please help me with pulse? how i can disable that file in right way?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest7623: if you press ALT+F2 and run: nm-applet , does it run ok?
[14:52] <meadhikari> ActionParsnip, is setting up a vnc server where multiple user can connect horrible idea?
[14:52] <astroduck> help? anyone?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Loa: my sound troubleshooting is poor. Never had an issue with it
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: imho its not very graceful
[14:52] <meadhikari> ActionParsnip, Thanks a lot for your time :)
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: surely the client systems have web browser functionality...?
[14:54] <loa> ActionParsnip, but i think you skilled in package managment under ubuntu, how do you think if pulseaudio package will be update, it will install again that file?
[14:54] <g_rmz> I have a problem installing Ubuntu, can someone help me please?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Loa: search http://packages.ubuntu.com if it is part of a package then it will be reinstated with updates, otherwise no :)
[14:55] <ashley01> anyone know of a channel in freenode where I can ask about sound/MIDI related problems
[14:55] <ashley01> unfortunately there is no one in #timidity
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: wont they have a web browser installed on their systems, to use that?
[14:56] <meadhikari> ActionParsnip, I am in a position where I can not question that but just implement it :(
[14:58] <ashley01> I FIXED IT!
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: I see, are there YouTube guides for it maybe?
[14:59] <rasteroid> i have two different bluetooth keyboards, one old and one new, and using trusty i get keys repeating even when i'm not using the keyboard. any thoughts?
[14:59] <ashley01> I FIXED BOTH OF THEM!
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ashley01: wtg!
[14:59] <ashley01> graphics problem was fixed by disabling vsync, music problem fixed by making a false->true change in a cfg file
[15:00] <Dylan> What was the server where people are able to upload pictures to show them to everyone here?
[15:01] <Dylan> I want to be able to show a picture to ask my question.
[15:02] <ashley01> an image file equivalent of paste.ubuntu.com (text file)?
[15:02] <ashley01> im not sure but would be interested myself
[15:02] <Dylan> I got help here before and someone told me to post images to a certain server in order to help me with my question.
[15:03] <Dylan> Oh well, I guess I can use my own server. Just a minute.
[15:03] <cfhowlett> imgur
[15:03] <Dylan> imgur! Thank you!
[15:03] <ashley01> oh i thought you meant something that requires no sign-in
[15:03] <ashley01> x)
[15:04] <Dylan> http://imgur.com/FeZWTI4
[15:04] <Dylan> I just upgraded to 14.04 and my "Run Program" program has a really small space to see my programs in. Anyone know how to fix that?
[15:04] <Dylan> "Run Application", excuse me.
[15:05] <g_rmz> my installation freeze everytime when the DVD image is loading, someome have the same problem?
[15:05] <eeee> Dylan: try to press the arrow on the left
[15:05] <Dylan> eeee: Made it worse
[15:06] <eeee> press it again
[15:06] <Dylan> same problem.
[15:06] <ashley01> it's a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1374945
[15:07] <Dylan> ashley: Thank you. Let's see if I can get it working here....
[15:08] <Dylan> ashley: When I use this patch, do I just run the .sh file?
[15:09] <Dylan> ashley: I apologize in advance, my Linux knowledge and understanding is like patchwork.
[15:09] <ashley01> same here, i know a few things here and there
[15:09] <Dylan> So should I just run the .sh file in the patch?
[15:09] <ashley01> hang on i'll check it myself
[15:10] <ashley01> is that the only file in there?
[15:10] <Dylan> No there's a ton of'em.
[15:10] <ashley01> check the README file
[15:11] <Dylan> http://imgur.com/pUjNtVO
[15:11] <ashley01> ye, your best bet is to check that README file because i dont have a clue
[15:12] <OerHeks> read the HACKING :-P
[15:13] <Dylan> Hm. The Readme says to open an INSTALL file, but I'm not seeing one.
[15:14] <Dylan> Oof, this is getting complicated.
[15:16] <Dylan> Alright, so the first thing it's tell me to do is run "./autogen.sh", and when I do in the terminal it's telling me to install gnome-common first.
[15:16] <Dylan> Am I going about this the wrong way or do I need gnome-common?
[15:18] <OerHeks> Normally i would say yes, install gnome-common but i have no idea what patch you are using
[15:18] <Dylan> This patch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1374945
[15:20] <OerHeks> ehm, for trusty it is applied in the proposed repo
[15:20] <Dylan> Repo means?
[15:20] <OerHeks> repository, open softwarecenter> top panel > edit > sources
[15:21] <OerHeks> oh forget that, that is for unity
[15:21] <Dylan> Yea I'm using Gnome. Could never get comfortable with Unity.
[15:21] <OerHeks> just open softwarecenter > etc > sources
[15:22] <OerHeks> and then 3th tab updates
[15:23] <namrata> Quit
[15:23] <Dylan> I'm there now.
[15:23] <Dylan> "Pre-released updates"?
[15:23] <cfhowlett> Dylan, = beta
[15:24] <Dylan> Right, but is that the one I want?
[15:24] <cfhowlett> Dylan, it's beta.  you break it, you fix it.
[15:24] <Dylan> Ick.
[15:25] <OerHeks> that is where that fix is applied, so up to you. also 14.10 is fixed
[15:25] <pthagnar> hello. is there a canonical way in ubuntu to run missed cron jobs / do them asynchronously a la https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/cron#Asynchronous_job_processing
[15:26] <Dylan> Is 14.10 released already?
[15:26] <cfhowlett> !isitout
[15:26] <Real_Zean> hello.
[15:27] <Real_Zean> I've a problem with ubuntu
[15:27] <pthagnar> [i.e. this should run at 00:01 every day but if the computer is switched off then, at the next opportunity]
[15:27] <Real_Zean> I've boutgh and chromebook
[15:27] <Real_Zean> totaly remove chromeos
[15:27] <Real_Zean> and install ubuntu
[15:28] <Real_Zean> Now all works well excepts my touchpad
[15:28] <Real_Zean> how fix it?
[15:28] <OerHeks> Real_Zean, what chromebook exactly?
[15:28] <kudo> Why ubuntu 14.04.1 is "no mountable file systems"?
[15:28] <Real_Zean> (I've Toshiba Chromebook cb35-a3120)
[15:28] <Real_Zean> the fisrt toshiba chromebook
[15:29] <demahum12> I'm trying to change default workspace. I have found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/410419/how-to-set-the-default-workspace Can anyone help me how to do these things from the first answer?
[15:30] <tsr> Zean, can you see the touchpad if you run  this in the terminal: cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[15:30] <Real_Zean> I've test many fix for the acer chromebookbut doesnt't work for me
[15:30] <Real_Zean> mmh
[15:31] <Real_Zean> many many things :D
[15:31] <Real_Zean> I copy on the paste
[15:31] <Surendil> `saiu11
[15:31] <Real_Zean> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8493487/
[15:33] <kudo> Why ubuntu 14.04.1 is "no mountable file systems"?
[15:33] <Real_Zean> my touchpad worked well with chromeos
[15:33] <Real_Zean> (I've removed because I don't like it)
[15:34] <Real_Zean> (I can't see Touchpad, Synaptics, or Mouse -> my touchpad isn't supported?)
[15:34] <cfhowlett> Real_Zean, I see no touchpad listed.  entirely possible it's unsupported
[15:34] <Real_Zean> on Archlinux there are a chromebook linux kernel
[15:35] <Real_Zean> not in ubuntu?
[15:35] <tsr> Ok, well you could try another mouse, if that works, it's probably an incompatibility with your hardware
[15:35] <Real_Zean> (worl well with another mouse)
[15:35] <Real_Zean> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=linux-chromebook for archlinux
[15:35] <OerHeks> Real_Zean, heh, it will work when kernel 3.17rc1 comes out ( in 14,10 i think) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1296534 see last comments
[15:35] <OerHeks> affects cb30 and cb35
[15:36] <Real_Zean> I've cb35
[15:36] <Real_Zean> so cool
[15:36] <Real_Zean> I migrate to 14.10 :D
[15:36] <cfhowlett> Real_Zean, wait for the release
[15:36] <OerHeks> 2 more weeks ...
[15:36] <Real_Zean> unstable? I know..
[15:36] <Real_Zean> :D
[15:38] <szx> hi guys, I'm running an upgrade to ubuntu 14.10 and it appears to be stuck at "Replacing config file ...", what should I do?
[15:39] <cfhowlett> szx, it's beta...unsupported here.  ask #ubuntu+1 *OR* wait for the release
[15:39] <OerHeks> szx, join #ubuntu+1 # for support untill release
[15:39] <szx> ok
[15:40] <phix> Why isn;'t webmin in repo for?  Is there something beter ?
[15:41] <ikonia>  phix we've been over the webmin thing 10,0000 times
[15:41] <cfhowlett> !webmin | phix
[15:41] <ikonia> phix: /join #debian
[15:41] <ikonia> oops
[15:41] <Acronymous> hi
[15:42] <Acronymous> ACRONYMOUS
[15:42] <demahum12> I'm trying to change default workspace. I have found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/410419/how-to-set-the-default-workspace Can anyone help me how to do these things from the first answer?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> Acronymous, ask your support question
[15:42] <phix> ikonia: I wasn't here when you went over it
[15:42] <phix> ikonia: I am here now so refresh me
[15:42] <ikonia> phix: you've been in this channel many times
[15:42] <ikonia> you're not new.
[15:43] <phix> ikonia: Correct, but this is the first time I have heard about webmin
[15:43] <phix> ikonia: Any similar tools available?  I want to allow clients to restart certian services if they hang (as they tend to do in Ubuntu)
[15:43] <ikonia> none that I would recommend
[15:43] <phix> (Asterisl for example)
[15:44] <phix> oh, should I use fastCGI and django?  of suPHP?
[15:44] <phix> of = or
[15:44] <ikonia> should you use ??
[15:44] <ikonia> this is for paying clients ??? you should have an idea of what YOU should use
[15:44] <ikonia> if you're putting clients on this stuff, you should not be randomly/blindly asking what to use
[15:48] <phix> ikonia: Well I used ot use webmin but apparantly that isn't supported any more
[15:49] <ikonia> correct
[15:49] <phix> so I am asking what the replacement is
[15:49] <ikonia> there isn't a direct replacement
[15:49] <ikonia> as the concept is falwed
[15:49] <ikonia> flawed
[15:49] <samthewildone> is there a way to disable the top left corner from opening the dashboard ?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> phix, webmin has been unsupported for ... 3 years I believe?  but the ##linux or #ubuntu-server channels would likely have some recommended alternatives
[15:49] <samthewildone> using UbuntuGnome
[15:50] <phix> No one in their right mind would pull a package and not offer a replacement, I mean when debian / ubuntu threw away exim they didn't stop providing a MTU, they replaced it with postfix
[15:50] <ikonia> phix: yes they would
[15:50] <ikonia> phix: people in their right mind would pull a broken product and not use a direct replacement if the concept is falwed
[15:51] <phix> ikonia: The concept is flawed??  allowing non-technically people the ability to restart services?
[15:51] <ikonia> phix: yes
[15:51] <ikonia> based on how wide the configurations of distros is
[15:51] <phix> ikonia: Have you tried to teach a 60 year old how to use SSH?
[15:51] <ikonia> and the rolling security
[15:51] <ikonia> phix: I'm not interested in that
[15:51] <ikonia> I'm interested in the reality of the product being a flaw, so it's dead
[15:52] <phix> ikonia: but 60 year olds still work for companies that have servers, would you rather they use Microsoft or Ubuntu?
[15:52] <ikonia> phix: I don't care what they use
[15:52] <ikonia> phix: they use what's best for them
[15:52] <phix> so you don't care about usability?
[15:52] <ikonia> phix: I suggest you focus on finding a solution for your problem
[15:52] <ikonia> phix: I didn't say that at all
[15:52] <cfhowlett> !focus
[15:53] <phix> The whole point of computers if to be an asset / a tool to humans, how can it be that if not everyone can use them?
[15:53] <ikonia> phix: don't disagree at all
[15:54] <phix> so what if webmin had it's issues, it was useful for low technical users, before pulling useful packages ubuntu should have a replacement before hand
[15:54] <ikonia> no they shouldn't
[15:54] <ikonia> if the concept is flawed -
[15:54] <ikonia> they pull an at risk product
[15:54] <phix> Useability is a falwed concept?
[15:54] <ikonia> or if a replacement does'nt exist
[15:54] <cfhowlett> phix, webmin was NOT an ubuntu product!  and alternatives exist.  ask #ubuntu-server or ##linux
[15:54] <ikonia> job done
[15:54] <phix> flawed*
[15:55] <ikonia> webmin is nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:55] <ikonia> I'm sure there are different clones of webmin, but if they are as bad, they won't get into the distro
[15:55] <phix> cfhowlett: I asked for alternatives and I got no response except going somewhere else, how is that helpful/
[15:55] <ikonia> phix: there are different options, just none I'd recommend, as they all are as bad as each other
[15:55] <phix> What is wrong with them?
[15:56] <learts> Hi guys! anyone here than can help me understand backportpackage, pbuild, PPA?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> phix, so you didn't even inquire of the other channels ...
[15:56] <phix> cfhowlett: I am going there now, but really this channel can handle it
[15:56] <ikonia> phix: search the repos for other options, there maybe one there you like (keep in mind the universe/multiverse and their support status)
[15:57] <phix> ikonia: ok
[15:57] <cfhowlett> learts, backport is a package that works really well in a later release, e.g. 14.10 and someone kindly works it up for earlier releases e.g. 14.04
[15:57] <phix> ikonia: You are being slightly helpful now
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !ppa > learts
[15:58] <cfhowlett> learts I've no idea about pbuild
[15:58] <LeartS> cfhowlett: I know that, I proposed a backport (using the command line tool of which I don't remember the name) and now I'm trying to build the backported package to test it.
[15:59] <cfhowlett> LeartS, then I misunderstood the question ... sorry
[16:00] <Carl_> What is the command to edit the ports "listening" on ubuntu 14.04?
[16:00] <ikonia> ufw ?
[16:00] <bastidrazor> ports only listen if a service is running on it
[16:01] <Carl_> I'm running a vncserver and need to have port 5900 listening. How would I do that?
[16:02] <EriC^^> Carl_: check the config files of the vncserver
[16:02] <ikonia> Carl_: use the ufw interface to open 5900 and when you start vnc server it will start to listen
[16:03] <EriC^^> Carl_: i think 5900 is the default port
[16:04] <mynaras> hello
[16:05] <mynaras> any ideas on how to set unity to use two X Screens?
[16:12] <mekhami> i'm having problems installing mysql, removing mysql, basically doing anything with apt-get causes the mysql config script to run even though it's not installed...
[16:13] <mekhami> errors like this: http://dpaste.com/1MHAEQJ
[16:14] <Boscop> how can i have a continuous cat, so see appended lines of a file as soon as they are appended by some process?
[16:15] <arrrghhh> hey guys.  I'd like to install a newer version of gnucash than available from the repo's - I built a .deb file, installed it... but an update knocked it back to the older version.  How can I get the package to 'stick' to the newer version?
[16:15] <tomatillo> Boscop: tail -f yourfile
[16:15] <Boscop> thx
[16:15] <tomatillo> np
[16:15] <d0lph1n98> mekhami: have you tried dpkg --configure mysql-server?
[16:16] <mekhami> error - dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:16] <azizLIGHT> how do i snap window left half of screen using keyboard shortcut like in windows you press win+left arrow key
[16:16] <ikonia> mekhami: do you have any PPA's confiugred or 3rd party packages installed
[16:17] <mekhami> http://dpaste.com/0P49JN8
[16:17] <rypervenche> mekhami: You may not be removing all of the packages that mysql installed, such as mysql-common and mysql-libs.
[16:17] <mekhami> ikonia, i don't really know
[16:17] <mekhami> ikonia, i'm sure i do for something or other
[16:18] <ikonia> mekhami: I suspect that's causing a conflict
[16:18] <ikonia> mekhami: I'd suggest apt-get purge mysql-server
[16:18] <mekhami> i tried that
[16:18] <ikonia> mekhami: then apt-get install mysql-server and pastebin the errors you get
[16:18] <mekhami> ikonia, when i do purge, it runs mysql-server's init script
[16:18] <ikonia> it should continue beyond that though
[16:19] <mekhami> it goes from removing mysql-server ... to setting up mysql-server ... to failed
[16:19] <ikonia> mekhami: please use a pastebin and show the output exactly from apt-get purge mysql-server
[16:21] <mekhami> http://dpaste.com/1S77G4G
[16:22] <ikonia> mekhami: lets tidy up, apt-get autoremove
[16:22] <mekhami> done
[16:23] <ikonia> mekhami: move /etc/init.d/mysql /etc/init.d/mysql.save
[16:23] <d0lph1n98> mekhami: sudo apt-get purge --remove mysql-server*
[16:23] <d0lph1n98> mekhami: do you stop the mysqld already?
[16:23] <d0lph1n98> mekhami: sudo service mysql stop
[16:23] <ikonia> mekhami: then apt-get purge mysql-server
[16:23] <ikonia> d0lph1n98: ?
[16:23] <d0lph1n98> mekhami: have you stop the mysql server?
[16:23] <ikonia> d0lph1n98: it's not confiugred
[16:24] <mekhami> doing apt-get purge --remove mysql-server* seemed to work
[16:25] <ikonia> mekhami: great
[16:25] <ckildegaard> How is everyone today?
[16:25] <mekhami> thanks for the help dudes.
[16:26] <d0lph1n98> mekhami: done
[16:26] <michele_> if i want to put an executable program (extracted from a tar) in the applications of ubuntu how to do?
[16:27] <yecril71pl> I cannot mark text in Launchpad
[16:27] <yecril71pl> I cannot paste text into Launchpad
[16:30] <BluesKaj> yecril71pl, are you a member?
[16:30] <yecril71pl> It depends how you define being a member.
[16:31] <yecril71pl> I have an account and I have accepted the community guidelines or whatever it is called.
[16:31] <BluesKaj> yecril71pl, got a launchpad acct? ...is that defined enough?
[16:31] <netlar> I am getting the occasational freeze when I boot. The keyboard or mouse will not respond and I have to just turn the machine off and start over. How can I check what the problem is?
[16:31]  * yecril71pl has a Launchpad account.
[16:32] <loa> is there way to run some commands after upgrade?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> you hsve to be logged in yecril71pl
[16:32] <loa> want remove one file which is in package which can be updated in future
[16:32] <yecril71pl> BluesKaj: I am logged in
[16:33] <BluesKaj> loa, depends on the file
[16:33] <loa> BluesKaj, /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf
[16:34] <BluesKaj> yecril71pl, try ctl+c  to copy, then ctl+v to paste
[16:34] <yecril71pl> BluesKaj: does not work
[16:34] <ckildegaard> netlar: Are these USB peripherals?
[16:35] <BluesKaj> loa, what do you want that file to do in the future?
[16:35] <netlar> ckildegaard: Just my wireless printer
[16:36] <BluesKaj> yecril71pl, where are you trying to paste, in the search field?
[16:36] <netlar> ckildegaard: But nothing connected via usb
[16:36] <mynaras> hello
[16:36] <yecril71pl> I cannot mark text in webapp-container
[16:36]  * yecril71pl trying to paste in the search field
[16:36] <ckildegaard> netlar: so are the keyboard and mouse connected by USB?
[16:37] <netlar> ckildegaard: No, they are connected with a wireless dongle from logitech
[16:38] <ckildegaard> Hmm...okay. But that dongle plugs in somewhere to give the wireless interface to your computer, right?
[16:38] <netlar> ckildegaard: Yes, sorry, it is plugged into a usb port
[16:39] <ckildegaard> netlar: Okay, first suggestion is to simply try another USB port when it happens. It's probably unlikely, but it could be an issue with that port.
[16:40] <ckildegaard> If it still doesn't work when you plug it in to a different port, you've eliminated that as an issue.
[16:40] <netlar> ckildegaard: It is funny, I was on 13.04 I had to use a utility called Solaar to get the wireless keyboard and mouse to work
[16:41] <netlar> ckildegaard: But when I installed 14.04 as a clean install, did not need that utility anymore, guess ubuntu/linux added sorry for that
[16:41] <netlar> support*
[16:42] <ckildegaard> netlar: Yeah, it's possible some drivers were updated or something like that.
[16:42] <netlar> ckildegaard: Well, I will try using different port next time it does this
[16:43] <ckildegaard> netlar: Yeah, sorry I don't have any better suggestions. Though that will be a good step to take to eliminate a hardware issue. You have to learn to be systematic about your troubleshooting :)
[16:43] <Basketball> hey anyone here good with rtcwake
[16:44] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  I'm logged into a remote machine via ssh and trying to push to a remote.  But when I try to push I get an auth error and it doesn't ask for my ssh key password.  How can I get it to prompt me for my key password?  Also, it works fine when I do it physically from that machine.
[16:44] <JokesOnYou77> Basketball, I've used it before a while ago, what's the issue?
[16:44] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: "push" ?
[16:44] <netlar> ckildegaard: I did a apt-get autoclean, autoremove and clean, that seemed to clear up the issue, but thought it may be coincidence
[16:45] <JokesOnYou77> Sorry, should have clarified.  Pushing to git.
[16:45] <Basketball> JokesOnYou77,  i have rtcwake set up in a cronjob so that it sleeps at midnight and is supposed to wake at 6 am
[16:45] <Basketball> it sleeps at midnight but never wakes up
[16:45] <ckildegaard> netlar: Yeah, could be coincidence, but I'd say just keep seeing how it goes.
[16:45] <Basketball> when i manually wake it the time on the top bar still says 12 am
[16:45] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: so that sounds like the git server is not configured for keys or your private key is not in the right place on your client
[16:45] <netlar> ckildegaard: ok, thanks
[16:46] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, but it works fine when I do the same thing from that machine in person (not ssh).  I think that gnome is caching my credentials somehow and that is conflicting with it
[16:47] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: I don't htink thats the case
[16:47] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: check the location of your private key - that would be my first check
[16:47] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: gnome uses gnome-keyring so it's possible it's not checking your key files in real time for the working session
[16:48] <loa> BluesKaj, it contains data that i don't like, it screw my own configuration in .asoundrc
[16:48] <quatrox> Basketball: I think you are running into the issue that the CLOCK_MONOTONIC stops while your computer is sleeping
[16:48] <JokesOnYou77> Basketball, What time does your bios have?  And is it in UTC?
[16:48] <Basketball> JokesOnYou77, how do i check
[16:48] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, I think that's what's happening.  And my keys are all in ~/.ssh/
[16:49] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: check the location, name and permissions of your public key
[16:50] <BluesKaj> loa, ok I haven't used .asoundrc for a few yrs
[16:50] <loa> BluesKaj, anyway it does not matter. i just need some help to get rid of that file.
[16:51] <loa> BluesKaj, what it is right way delete that file?
[16:51] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, my private key is in ~/.ssh and is owned by me and -rw  and my .pub is owned by me (both are also my group)  and is -rw and a+r
[16:51] <BluesKaj> loa rm -rf path to file
[16:51] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: private key should not be writeable
[16:51] <JokesOnYou77> not by owner?
[16:52] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: actually - it's fine, my mistake
[16:52] <JokesOnYou77> yeah
[16:52] <loa> BluesKaj, but what about upgrade? are not it appear again?
[16:52] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, I'm still thinking it's gnome.  Because I have no problem when I'm sitting at that machine
[16:52] <BluesKaj> loa, which ubuntu versionare you using?
[16:53] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: why do you think it's gnome ?
[16:53] <demahum12> I'm trying to change default workspace. I have found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/410419/how-to-set-the-default-workspace Can anyone help me how to do these things from the first answer?
[16:53] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: gnome has nothing to do with you on the ssh environment
[16:53] <loa> BluesKaj, ubuntu 14.04
[16:53] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, because the thing that changes between local use and ssh is access to gnome.  It works fine when I'm at that machine.
[16:53] <BluesKaj> ok is your audio chip an intel hda, loa ?
[16:53] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: who runs the git server you are trying to connect to ?
[16:54] <loa> BluesKaj, i can't get that thing. Producer is realtek i think.
[16:55] <axisys> esc key does not work on this new laptop running ubuntu trusty 64bit desktop.. so far did not find anything in google that addressed this issue.. any suggestion?
[16:55] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, well this one is github.  But again, it works fine when I do the exact same command when sitting at the machine in question.  To me, that implies that my environment is set up correctly or it wouldn't work at all
[16:55] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: I agree, but that doesn't suggest gnome is a "problem"
[16:55] <loa> BluesKaj, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.04-20%3A55%3A14.png
[16:55] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: it either auths on keys or it doesn't auth on keys
[16:55] <BluesKaj> run aplay -l in the terminal. loa
[16:55] <loa> BluesKaj, already done, lol.
[16:55] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: and as the only thing gnome can do is cache your key password, that has no impact on if the machine takes/rejects keys
[16:56] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, but can it auth on keys when I'm in a non-gui session (ssh)?
[16:56] <loa> BluesKaj, but why it do matter?
[16:56] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: it won't try to as you're not using the desktop
[16:56] <loa> BlueShark, i just don't like that autoinstalled file.
[16:56] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, I think the keyring may be preventing the key password prompt from showing up
[16:56] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: github doesn't care about your desktop, it just keys about valid key/password
[16:56] <yecril71pl> Bug #1377480
[16:56] <ikonia> doesn't care where it comes from
[16:57] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: that seems unlikley
[16:57] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, ok, but I'm not getting propted for a key password as I should be
[16:57] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: doesn't mean it's impossible
[16:57] <BlueShark> loa: Did you mean to highlight someone else?
[16:57] <BlueShark> Oh, yeah. You meant B l u e s K a j instead
[16:58] <BluesKaj> loa, why are you using .asoundrc ?
[16:59] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, the archwiki has a section that I think may address this, could you take a look with me and see if you think it applies here? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_Keyring#SSH_Keys
[16:59] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, Section: Gnome Keyring dialog and SSH
[16:59] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: that's interesting, be interesting to try it
[17:00] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: I don't think that's the problem however it would be interesting to know for sure
[17:01] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, I have a lead!  While in ssh, if I $ ssh-add -L  I get "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent."  Looks like a clue to me
[17:01] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: so it is trying to talk to the keyring daemon
[17:01] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: and that would make sense as that's not configured in the shell by default
[17:02] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, I think this is the smoking gun, so to speak.  I'm going to give the Arch wiki instructions a shot
[17:02] <ikonia> JokesOnYou77: certainly looks that way
[17:03] <yecril71pl> gdb is unable to attach to my process; what gives?
[17:03] <yecril71pl> /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope is 1; I do not know what it means
[17:04] <loa> BlueShark, sorry for that.
[17:04] <BlueShark> No worries :)
[17:04] <gndlp> hey if I want to use find to search starting at / and recurse all the directories looking for a file what would be the easiest syntax?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> loa by default ubuntu no longer uses .asoundrc afaik and any issues you have with your audio instead of guessing what the problem might be , just  tell us what is happening or not happening with your audio.
[17:04] <trism> yecril71pl: read /etc/sysctl.d/10-ptrace.conf
[17:04] <loa> BluesKaj, i have mixed setup alsa + pulseaudio using dmix, it works well except i need to remove that file.
[17:05] <loa> BluesKaj, i use such setup becouse of sound problems in wine. I want it to use alsa directly.
[17:05] <yecril71pl> So it happens I need to run the program under gdb myself.
[17:06] <loa> BluesKaj, and ubuntu can use .asoudrc i checked this.
[17:06] <alipoor90> Hi, how I can setup a pptp connection with iproute2?
[17:06] <loa> BluesKaj, you can check this file /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[17:07] <BluesKaj> ok loa , but i dunno much about audio in wine either , sorry .,..maybe someone else can help you\
[17:07] <_yesac> Hi, I am trying to get a panel applet to work with gnome-session-flashback. What version of gnome is included? gnome-panel -v doesn't return the expected output
[17:08] <loa> BluesKaj, =/ i am not talking about sound anymore. i just interest how i can protect my system from appearing that file again.
[17:09] <loa> BluesKaj, looks like i found another one, here it is /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/pulse.conf
[17:09] <volkov> Hey, yo!
[17:09] <alipoor90> Hi, how I can setup a pptp connection with iproute2?
[17:09] <tuca> salve
[17:10] <xangua> _yesac: gnome3
[17:10] <LeartS> _yesac: apt-cache show gnome-panel
[17:10] <volkov> How are you this evening?
[17:12] <_yesac> xangua and LeartS Thank you both
[17:12] <JokesOnYou77> ikonia, So I got it to work.  Unfortunately I have no idea if the archwiki fix helped becasue it looks like it's a problem with byobu/screen :P
[17:12] <_yesac> it's gnome 3.8
[17:13] <xangua> sounds like you are using a no supported/no security updates release _yesac
[17:13] <alessandro> Hi!
[17:15] <yecril71pl> Where is webapp-container-dbg?
[17:15] <_yesac> xangua, it's what comes with 14.04 desktop
[17:16] <xangua> ok then you are fine
[17:16] <skirlet> hey all does anyone know why i would be having an issue importing a .eps into inscape? i am losing all my color. i am importing a gold vector and it's importing black? thanks!
[17:17] <mguy> skirlet: http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=797
[17:18] <skirlet> thanks!
[17:20] <volkov> Hey, how re you feel this evening?
[17:21] <xangua> !ot | volkov
[17:26] <bmxscott1993> do any one know why when i install ubuntu on a sd card it work but when i install tails linux it do not as well kali linux do the same thing and says isolinux.bin missing or corrupt but not when i install ubuntu
[17:27] <cfhowlett> bmxscott1993, this is ubuntu support.  ubuntu works for so ... use it.  for tails, kali, etc, ask them for support as they are not supported in the ubuntu channel.
[17:27] <gndlp> "/alias hideadd eval set activity_hide_targets $activity_hide_targets $-"
[17:27] <gndlp> "/alias hideclear set -c activity_hide_targets"
[17:27] <gndlp> "/alias hidelevels.clear set -c activity_hide_level"
[17:27] <gndlp> "/alias hidelevels.set set activity_hide_level parts joins quits nicks modes"
[17:27] <gndlp> "/alias hidelist set activity_hide_targets"
[17:27] <bmxscott1993> ok thank for the heads up
[17:30] <trism> yecril71pl: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/w/webbrowser-app/
[17:30] <trism> yecril71pl: most symbols for packages which do not have -dbg packages in debian are on ddebs
[17:30] <stefan__> hi all, my ubuntu sound volume is way too loud. I can barely slide the volume till around 10% an it's already really loud. Ideally I want my max volume to be what my current 10%....something like fixing the dB gain from 0 to 100% to new values. Anybody know how I could do that?
[17:33] <flaburgan> hi
[17:33] <flaburgan> I need some help to install a printer
[17:34] <flaburgan> it's a Canon pixma MG3550
[17:34] <flaburgan> the printer is found and displayed with a green check
[17:34] <flaburgan> so it looks everything is fine
[17:34] <flaburgan> but when I try to print something, nothing happens
[17:35] <flaburgan> ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
[17:35] <flaburgan> I installed the drivers here: http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/InkJet/PIXMA_MG_series/PIXMA_MG3550.aspx?type=download&language=FR&os=Linux
[17:35] <flaburgan> but nothing changed
[17:35] <flaburgan> the scanner works with scangearmp
[17:36] <trism> stefan__: I have a pair of headphones like that, in pavucontrol I can control them separately and set them rather low, then just use the volume indicator as normal
[17:37] <stefan__> trism, ye I tried, but it's still too loud even at 5% or so.....no idea why but its REALLY loud :(
[17:38] <ct_> Hello
[17:38] <EriC^^> ct_: hello
[17:38] <ct_> sup
[17:38] <EriC^^> nm, u?
[17:38] <ct_> nm
[17:38] <ct_> ur using ubuntu ?
[17:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:39] <ct_> i didn't find alot of apps
[17:39] <EriC^^> ct_: did you enable the universe repository?
[17:40] <ct_> how to do that and no i didn't
[17:40] <EriC^^> dash > software & updates
[17:41] <ct_> ubuntu softwares sys ?
[17:41] <EriC^^> there's the universe repository, and the multiverse one (which has copyright restricted ones)
[17:41] <cfhowlett> and partners
[17:42] <ct_> in the universal acces ?
[17:42] <EriC^^> ct_: no go to the software center, press edit in the global menu, and then software sources
[17:42] <EriC^^> or open the dash and type software, and press on software & updates
[17:43] <ct_> i did updated the software
[17:43] <Cyber_Akuma> Does the latest Ubuntu ISO contain memtest86 or memtest86+?
[17:44] <ct_> u have tiemviewer ?
[17:44] <cfhowlett> Cyber_Akuma, it does
[17:44] <Cyber_Akuma> thanks
[17:44] <EriC^^> ct_: it has the software sources
[17:45] <ct_> do u have tiemviewer ?
[17:45] <EriC^^> no
[17:45] <ct_> so u can controll my computer and fix it
[17:45] <ct_> u can download it
[17:45] <nathanisak> hello world
[17:46] <krasnayarsk> I just found out about jfbterm. Has anyone here got experience with it? Will it run without X?
[17:46] <EriC^^> ct_: it's very easy to select the repos
[17:47] <ct_> I did updated the software
[17:47] <ct_> i just didn't find some apps
[17:47] <ZeroDivided> hi, I'm having trouble mounting a directory
[17:47] <EriC^^> ct_: that has the options concerning software and updates
[17:48] <ZeroDivided> Keep getting ane error mount.nfs mount point /mnt/server does not exist
[17:48] <EriC^^> ct_: which updates to check for, when to tell you about it etc.
[17:48] <ZeroDivided> but it is definently there
[17:48] <ct_> aaah yes !!
[17:48] <ct_> what are some Compilers in C programming
[17:48] <EriC^^> gcc
[17:48] <EriC^^> it should already be installed
[17:49] <EriC^^> type gcc --version in a terminal
[17:49] <EriC^^> ZeroDivided: what is the command you're using?
[17:49] <ct_> ok
[17:50] <ct_> thanks
[17:50] <EriC^^> no problem
[17:51] <ZeroDivided> sudo mount SERVER:/path/of/share /mnt/server
[17:51] <EriC^^> ZeroDivided: are you sure mount handles SERVER: ? shouldn't you be using sshfs or something?
[17:52] <ZeroDivided> Its actuall an IP address
[17:52] <ZeroDivided> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:52] <ZeroDivided> so mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/server /mnt/server
[17:52] <ZeroDivided> Its an nfs share on an Ubuntu VM
[17:53] <irrelephant> Hi all. I installed ubuntu-gnome 14.04.1 to a usb flash drive. Is it possible to enable this drive to boot on EFI systems as well as Legacy BIOS?
[17:53] <OerHeks> !uefi
[17:54] <EriC^^> irrelephant: just change the bios to efi or legacy
[17:54] <stefan__> Is it possible to set max pulse volume to something like -40dB instead of 0dB?
[17:54] <ZeroDivided> So tried adding this to my fstab
[17:54] <ZeroDivided> <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/stephen 	/mnt/server 	rw,hard,intr 	0	0
[17:54] <ZeroDivided> sudo mount -a
[17:54] <ZeroDivided> same error
[17:55] <ZeroDivided> mount: mount point /mnt/server does not exist
[17:55] <ct_> what are some  website to study C Programing with exercices etc ? plz
[17:55] <rypervenche> ZeroDivided: What version of nfs are you using? Also, what does "showmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>" show you?
[17:55] <rypervenche> ZeroDivided: And does the directory /mnt/server exist?
[17:56] <ZeroDivided> yes it exists
[17:56] <ct_> !op
[17:56] <ct_> !voice
[17:56] <IdleOne> ct_: yes?
[17:56] <ct_> just testing
[17:56] <ct_> what are some  website to study C Programing with exercices etc ? plz
[17:56] <rypervenche> ><
[17:56] <ZeroDivided> stephen@stephen-desktop:/mnt/server$ showmount -e <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:56] <ZeroDivided> Export list for <IP_ADDRESS>:
[17:56] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > ct_
[17:57] <ct_> ok
[17:57] <ZeroDivided> It shows /home/stephen
[17:57] <ZeroDivided> and /home
[17:57] <ZeroDivided> on the client
[17:57] <ct_> IdleOne are u human or a boot ?
[17:57] <rypervenche> ZeroDivided: Ok good, so it's exporting correctly. Can you show us the output of "stat /mnt/server" please?
[17:57] <IdleOne> ct_: last time I checked, half and half
[17:58]  * Zaitzev wears IdleOne on his left foot
[17:58] <ZeroDivided> rypervenche no such file or directory
[17:58] <Zaitzev> sorry, had to say it :)
[17:58] <ZeroDivided> ...
[17:58] <ct_> IdleOne ok :)
[17:58] <rypervenche> ZeroDivided: Then /mnt/server does not exist :)
[17:58] <ZeroDivided> pwd
[17:58] <ZeroDivided>  /mnt/server
[17:58] <anon99999> I have a computer that I accidentally formatted the partitions on, now I want to recover the partitions using an Ubuntu live usb, which commands should I run from bash?
[17:58] <rypervenche> ZeroDivided: You can still be in a directory that no longer exists.
[17:58] <rypervenche> ZeroDivided: type "cd; cd /mnt/server"
[17:58] <ZeroDivided> derp
[17:59] <ZeroDivided> thanks
[17:59] <ct_> Someone answer me : what are some  website to study C Programing with exercices etc ? plz
[17:59] <ct_> 6 dd
[17:59] <cfhowlett> ct_, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##c
[17:59] <rypervenche> ZeroDivided: Then "mkdir /mnt/server" then try the mount command again :)
[17:59] <EriC^^> ct_: i'll redirect you to ##c , but with a word of caution, tread carefully
[17:59] <ZeroDivided> ok its mounted
[17:59] <cryptodan> http://www.codecademy.com/
[17:59] <irrelephant> I need to make my ubuntu installation bootable on a UEFI-only machine as well as a Legacy BIOS-only machine. Any hints on what to look for / where to look to make this happen?
[17:59] <EriC^^> i once saw somebody get butchered for capitalizing Hey Guys!
[18:00] <ZeroDivided> i'm creatign directories on the server ... so thats working
[18:00] <ct_> EriC^^ idk the commands to join
[18:00] <ZeroDivided> I've got it now. Thanks!
[18:00] <IdleOne> ct_: http://www.cprogramming.com/ Keep in mind this channel is not a one stop shop for any and all support questions. We do Ubuntu support.
[18:00] <rypervenche> EriC^^: Ha! They are .....case-sensitive....
[18:00] <ct_> IdleOne Thank you
[18:00] <ct_> !list
[18:01] <razieliyo> hi
[18:01] <rypervenche> ZeroDivided: :)
[18:02] <razieliyo> xdg-open seems bugged somehow
[18:02] <razieliyo> it just doesn't work with anything
[18:02] <ct_> EriC^^ how to join rooms ? here
[18:02] <IdleOne> /join #room-name
[18:03] <razieliyo> does anyone know for a replacement for it?
[18:03] <ct_> should my name be registered ?
[18:04] <EriC^^> ct_: yeah, /nickserv register <password> <email>
[18:05] <ct_> my name is already registred :/
[18:06] <EriC^^> /nickserv info <nickname> will tell you if it's registered or not
[18:06] <JasonCX6843> ok i register this one :D :)
[18:09] <EriC^^> great
[18:11] <JasonCX6843> ;)
[18:24] <alipoor90> What is best file level backup solution? I heard tar has some limitations and may corrupt file names etc, do this is true?
[18:24] <pico1> it is curious. 1700 people  and nobody talks
[18:24] <pico1> :P
[18:25] <DJones> pico1: Why is that curious? Its a support channel, all that says is that people don't have support issues
[18:25] <rypervenche> alipoor90: I have had the best success with rsync.
[18:25] <cfhowlett> pico1, social channels exist.  this isn't one.
[18:25] <pico1> aaaa
[18:25] <pico1> sorry
[18:26] <rypervenche> alipoor90: rsync with hardlinks that is, so I can have two months worth of backups on my backup drives.
[18:27] <pico1> I was wrong channel
[18:27] <pico1> bye guys
[18:28] <demahum12> I'm trying to change default workspace. I have found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/410419/how-to-set-the-default-workspace Can anyone help me how to do these things from the first answer?
[18:28] <bmxscott1993> ok this is my problem i using ask ubuntu to help aswell this is the like to the problem i am having http://askubuntu.com/questions/532233/need-help-install-iso-to-a-sd-card-usb-work-with-ubuntu-but-not-kali-or-tails
[18:31] <cfhowlett> bmxscott1993, this is not the kali/tails support channel.  we don't support kail/tails.
[18:33] <bmxscott1993> i know but it about using ubuntu to mount the iso
[18:33] <bmxscott1993> as a live os
[18:37] <yecril71pl> What should I install to get /build/buildd/webbrowser-app-0.23+14.04.20140428/src/app/browserapplication.cpp
[18:37] <ikonia> yecril71pl: that path has no relevence to an ubuntu package
[18:37] <ikonia> yecril71pl: that's a C file
[18:37] <ikonia> from some 3rd party app
[18:37] <yecril71pl> What should I install to see source code under gdb?
[18:38] <demahum12> I'm trying to change default workspace. I have found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/410419/how-to-set-the-default-workspace Can anyone help me how to do these things from the first answer?
[18:38] <yecril71pl> The 3rd party app is actually webapp-container, from Ubuntu.
[18:38] <trism> yecril71pl: apt-get source webbrowser-app; then use the dir command in gdb to set the path
[18:38] <ubuntu-user-2498> how can I display a record of what the script utility recorded without all the extranious characters such that it's actually readable?
[18:38] <trism> yecril71pl: unfortunately our symbols don't include source so you have to fiddle around with dir usually
[18:39] <cfhowlett> yecril71pl, then it should be in ubuntu repos and searchable in packages
[18:40] <cfhowlett> !info webapp-container
[18:41] <EriC^^> demahum12: just use wmctrl to switch to the workspace, add it to ~/.profile
[18:41] <yecril71pl> trism: what is the right dir command to gdb?
[18:41] <demahum12> EriC^^, Woah... that's kind a too much to do from once. :D
[18:41] <yecril71pl> The path /build/buildd is absolute
[18:41] <demahum12> EriC^^, How do you mean, use wmctrl?
[18:43] <EriC^^> demahum12: wmctrl is a program that allows you to switch workspaces via the terminal
[18:44] <trism> yecril71pl: yes, that is the directory on the buildd, that doesn't help us, you need to download the source (however you want, with bzr or apt-get source webbrowser-app), then add the path to that source with dir
[18:44] <demahum12> EriC^^, so what exactly to do?
[18:44] <EriC^^> so lets say the command to switch to workspace 1 is wmctrl -o 1,1 , or something , add that line to ~/.profile
[18:44] <yecril71pl> trism: I have the source in $HOME
[18:45] <trism> yecril71pl: so if I downloaded the source to /home/trism/webbrowser-app then I would add: dir /home/trism/webbrowser-app/src/app
[18:45] <EriC^^> ( it will run after you login )
[18:45] <EriC^^> demahum12: sudo apt-get install wmctrl
[18:45] <trism> yecril71pl: although cwd is also searched so if you just cd to the directory with the source file it should work as well
[18:45] <demahum12> EriC^^, Done it.
[18:45] <EriC^^> ok now type man wmctrl
[18:45] <demahum12> EriC^^, then?
[18:45] <EriC^^> ( i dont have it installed so you'll have to put the command together )
[18:46] <yecril71pl> trism: thanks :-)
[18:46] <EriC^^> check the options
[18:46] <trism> yecril71pl: likewise if you rebuild the package, the path to the source will be correct in the binary so you shouldn't have to change anything
[18:46] <demahum12> EriC^^, which option do I look for?
[18:46] <EriC^^> changing the workspace
[18:47] <EriC^^> you can use "/" followed by a string to search the manual, press "n" to go to the next occurance
[18:47] <EriC^^> like /change
[18:49] <demahum12> EriC^^, I could not find worspace(s) in options. Search for workspace and workspaces gives no pattern found.
[18:49] <EriC^^> ok, hold on
[18:50] <EriC^^> how many workspaces do you have
[18:50] <demahum12> EriC^^, haha.. 25 .D
[18:50] <demahum12> :D
[18:50] <EriC^^> ok so that's 5x5 ?
[18:50] <demahum12> EriC^^, exactly.
[18:50] <EriC^^> which one do you want to go to?
[18:51] <demahum12> EriC^^, I want 13th to be default, the center.
[18:51] <EriC^^> try wmctrl -o 3,3
[18:52] <demahum12> EriC^^, strange. It moves me to the first one whatever I type after -o (3,3 or 6,6) the same.
[18:53] <DigiDemon> Weird...couldn't get connected via weechat
[18:53] <DigiDemon> Ok...wow do I need some help
[18:53] <DigiDemon> My production box died this morning
[18:53] <DigiDemon> It was 12.0
[18:53] <EriC^^> demahum12: ok, it says the window manager may ignore the request in the man page
[18:53] <DigiDemon> My dev box is 14
[18:53] <DigiDemon> And is now in use
[18:54] <DigiDemon> My biggest issue is postfix and dovecot
[18:54] <demahum12> EriC^^, that means that...?
[18:54] <DigiDemon> Postfix says the message got deliverd, but dovecot doesn't see any messages
[18:54] <EriC^^> demahum12: the syntax is wmctrl - o x,y (where x,y is the offset from the top left corner of the array of 5x5 )
[18:54] <DigiDemon> 12.0 it was running sweet
[18:54] <demahum12> EriC^^, I understand, but it doesn't work?
[18:54] <DigiDemon> After upgrade, no workie
[18:55] <EriC^^> demahum12: try wmctrl -d
[18:55] <EriC^^> that should list the desktops
[18:55] <demahum12> EriC^^, It does: 0  * DG: 6830x3840  VP: 1366,768  WA: 57,24 1309x744  N/A
[18:57] <guest1177a> Regarding ubuntu 14 and laptops - does acpi have anything to do with the mouse or keyboard on a laptop?
[18:58] <EriC^^> demahum12: you can use wmctrl -s <workspace name>
[18:58] <demahum12> EriC^^, and workspace name will be the number of it?
[18:58] <guest1177a> Or, better yet, can anyone list all the things in ubuntu 14 that would affect the mouse and keyboard on a laptop?
[18:59] <EriC^^> demahum12: it seems we got the syntax wrong
[18:59] <EriC^^> first it starts from 0,0 not 1,1
[18:59] <EriC^^> second it seems all wack
[18:59] <EriC^^> lol
[18:59] <demahum12> EriC^^, ok, that's not problem
[18:59] <EriC^^> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41093/is-there-a-command-to-go-a-specific-workspace
[19:00] <DigiDemon> Nothing eh?
[19:00] <demahum12> EriC^^, Hhahhahahhaa... it's definitely more than wack :D
[19:01] <EriC^^> lol :D
[19:01] <jalcine> EriC^^: starting from 0 is a common computer practice
[19:01] <EriC^^> jalcine: yeah i know but they said it's the offset from the top left
[19:01] <EriC^^> corner
[19:02] <EriC^^> jalcine: that's not what's wack about it, check the link if interested
[19:02] <jalcine> gotcha
[19:06] <EriC^^> demahum12: anyways
[19:06] <demahum12> EriC^^, hah
[19:06] <demahum12> EriC^^, I tried
[19:06] <demahum12> EriC^^, to do all these things
[19:06] <Mattias> In Ubuntu/Gnome settings -> network, when you create an openvpn connection and then turn it on, how can I do that if I'm not in gnome and use i3? How can I verify openvpn is running correctly in i3?
[19:06] <EriC^^> yours is 6830x3840
[19:06] <demahum12> EriC^^, to split both of these by 25
[19:06] <demahum12> EriC^^, and then to try
[19:06] <demahum12> EriC^^, but nothing again. It moves me to the first.
[19:07] <EriC^^> so that's 6830 / 5 = 1366 , 3840 / 5 = 768
[19:07] <demahum12> EriC^^, oh
[19:07] <demahum12> EriC^^, I tried 6830 / 25
[19:08] <demahum12> EriC^^, I'll try your version now.
[19:08] <EriC^^> you want wmctrl -o 2732,1536
[19:09] <demahum12> EriC^^, whoaaa... It works! :D
[19:09] <EriC^^> ok, add that line to ~/.profile
[19:10] <ashley01> Does anyone know how to set custom vsync options in CCC? I want to set Firefox to use vsync but I don't want OpenTTD to use it.
[19:11] <demahum12> EriC^^, Where exactly in this file?
[19:11] <demahum12> EriC^^, At the end?
[19:11] <EriC^^> yup
[19:12] <daftykins> ashley01: what solved your issue in the end?
[19:12] <demahum12> EriC^^, done it.
[19:12] <demahum12> EriC^^, to restart?
[19:12] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[19:12] <EriC^^> try to log out and log in
[19:12] <demahum12> EriC^^, without restarting?
[19:12] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:12] <ashley01> I turned off vsync in CCC for all applications and now I can run OpenTTD in a maximised window without performance issues (but not fullscreen)
[19:13] <ashley01> However I get some screen-tearing (if that is what it is called) in Firefox now when I scroll up/down.
[19:14] <ashley01> ..and the music issue I solved by editing one of OpenTTD's cfg files.
[19:14] <daftykins> hmm
[19:14] <daftykins> doesn't make sense for vsync to slow down a game, but there's AMD for you
[19:14] <ashley01> yup x)
[19:15] <demahum12> EriC^^, done it.
[19:15] <demahum12> EriC^^, Again on the first. :(
[19:16] <EriC^^> demahum12: try to add it to the startup applications
[19:16] <EriC^^> ( dash > startup )
[19:16] <demahum12> EriC^^, that would work. :D
[19:17] <demahum12> EriC^^, Done it. To restart or to just logout again?
[19:17] <EriC^^> just logout
[19:17] <ashley01> I might have fixed it now
[19:18] <ashley01> yep, looks fixed. CCC is weird
[19:18] <EriC^^> any luck?
[19:19] <demahum12> EriC^^, strange. The wokspace window showed on login, but nothing happened, I'm on my first again.
[19:19] <EriC^^> demahum12: yeah i tried the brightness for someone once and it would set then reset
[19:20] <EriC^^> that's why i suggested ~/.profile first
[19:20] <demahum12> EriC^^, any ideas why profile version doesn't work?
[19:20] <ashley01> when people say  ~/  do they mean /home ? I see that quite a lot.
[19:20] <EriC^^> demahum12: you could try to add a sleep to it
[19:20] <demahum12> EriC^^, maybe I've done it in a bad way.
[19:21] <demahum12> ashley01, this was to me? :D
[19:21] <ashley01> anyone really!
[19:21] <EriC^^> i've no idea why, i think startup should start after ~/.profile
[19:21] <trism> ashley01: ~ actually expands to /home/username in the shell, try typing: echo ~; in the terminal
[19:21] <EriC^^> demahum12: i dont think you've written it wrongly
[19:21] <EriC^^> demahum12: if it sets this resets then you've written it correctly
[19:21] <ashley01> oh i see now x)
[19:21] <daftykins> ashley01: ~ = /home/currentuser/
[19:21] <daftykins> oops too slow
[19:22] <EriC^^> demahum12: you could try to add a sleep before, like sleep 10 , then the command
[19:22] <EriC^^> demahum12: maybe it wouldn't be reset, and maybe the workspace program would have loaded
[19:22] <EriC^^> if it works, then you could fine tune it so it loads shortly after logging in
[19:22] <demahum12> EriC^^, haha... is this python? Do I need to import time? XD or just sleep 10?
[19:22] <EriC^^> hehe
[19:23] <EriC^^> no just sleep 10
[19:23] <ashley01> I just tested out the echo function by typing echo " and it has brought me to a > prompt
[19:23] <demahum12> EriC^^, I guess before this command? :D
[19:23] <EriC^^> yup
[19:23] <david38400> I need help please with Open Office. I am using ubuntu 14.04 and trying to do some calculations. I need to copy a format and reuse it but it doesnt let me copy. Any offers??
[19:24] <ashley01> I know I can exit by CTRL+C but I am wondering what that prompt is
[19:24] <demahum12> EriC^^, Done it. I will do the logout now.
[19:25] <demahum12> EriC^^, GOOD BLESS YOU! :D
[19:25] <demahum12> EriC^^, GOD*
[19:26] <demahum12> EriC^^, I'll just try to delete this sleep line just to convince myself that's it. :D
[19:26] <EriC^^> ok, give it a shot
[19:27] <Ray_7880> Why I can't download Links2?
[19:28] <EriC^^> !info links2
[19:28] <EriC^^> Ray_7880: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[19:28] <trism> ashley01: when you added the ", the shell expects you to finish it with another ", so it keeps reading until you finish it
[19:28] <demahum12> EriC^^, I've deleted all lines that we've added to .profile
[19:28] <trism> ashley01: if you want to echo a literal " you need to escape it: echo \"
[19:28] <ashley01> thanks, understood :D
[19:29] <demahum12> EriC^^, It's definitely this startup application.
[19:29] <Ray_7880> I'm new to linux so I don't have many things. Can you explain?
[19:29] <shroomduke> tinycore live cd boots but i can't see the gui , it works on one computer but not other
[19:29] <demahum12> EriC^^, I wonder why it didn't work the first time.
[19:29] <EriC^^> demahum12: startup worked? no sleep?
[19:30] <demahum12> EriC^^, startup worked for two times already and I've deleted all the lines I've added to .profile
[19:30] <EriC^^> cool
[19:30] <demahum12> EriC^^, haha..
[19:30] <EriC^^> i'm also curious about startup
[19:30] <demahum12> EriC^^, definitely...problem is solved. :D
[19:30] <EriC^^> yeah :)
[19:30] <demahum12> EriC^^, thanks, thanks a lot. :D
[19:30] <david38400> No help with the calculations guys???
[19:30] <EriC^^> no problem
[19:31] <demahum12> EriC^^, I'm going to add this solution to http://askubuntu.com/questions/410419/how-to-set-the-default-workspace :D
[19:31] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[19:31] <ubuntu-user-2498> can someone help get sound working.  seems my soudcard has disappeared.
[19:32] <shroomduke> what are you coppying to & from david384000
[19:32] <jatin> can I ask elementary OS here?
[19:33] <daftykins> !elementary | jatin
[19:34] <jatin> ya but no one is answering there
[19:34] <shroomduke> I feel your pain jatin
[19:34] <daftykins> sorry, doesn't change the rules.
[19:34] <DJones> jatin: Just be patient, we can't help with Elementary
[19:35] <shroomduke> rules is rules
[19:35] <jatin> okey, thanx
[19:37] <ashley01> !x
[19:38] <megaloden> Hey guys? I'm looking for device regarding partitioning resizing.
[19:39] <EriC^^> megaloden: gparted
[19:40] <yecril71pl> It seems webapp-container uses its own clipboard that it does not share
[19:40] <yecril71pl> and it cannot find text on the current page
[19:41] <john_doe_jr1> When using the dd command what does the bs (block size) option do?
[19:41] <yecril71pl> which makes me wonder why it is advertised as a replacement for sites viewed in a Web browser
[19:41] <yecril71pl> seems retarded
[19:43] <yecril71pl> Launchpad client prints a lot of stuff to the console when started in a console
[19:44] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: specify what block sizes to issue IO commands in, afaik
[19:44] <yecril71pl> it prints so much of it that it actually becomes irresponsive
[19:44] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: what does block size mean though?
[19:45] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: you understand that hard disks are block devices, yeah? they store data in 512byte or 4KB blocks
[19:46] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29#Block_size
[19:46] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: right…so if I say 'dd if=~/myfile.iso of=dev/disks1 bs=1' ….A block size of 1 means what?
[19:47] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: well that's a mistake, you're increasing overhead there. read my last link, it should be pretty obvious after that
[19:49] <MickeySoFine> HI All
[19:49] <daftykins> hello
[19:49] <MickeySoFine> I'm thinking of buying a new laptop with windows 8 pre-installed, can I install Ubuntu on it without any hassle?
[19:49] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: hey so you can use the dd command to write zeros to a file right?
[19:50] <soee> how can i preview open single fiel from zip ?
[19:50] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: to a file? what are you trying to achieve?
[19:50] <daftykins> MickeySoFine: it's not 100% guaranteed but if you look up the model online you might get some indication of what may not work
[19:51] <MickeySoFine> soee, open it in archive managers and right click to select a program to read it
[19:52] <MickeySoFine> daftykins, so what the general advice when buying? are there ways to get up to date hardware without win 8 installed?
[19:53] <daftykins> MickeySoFine: you could buy from one of the companies that sells Linux systems direct
[19:53] <pavlos> john_doe_jr, dd if=/dev/zero of=bob bs=1000 count=1
[19:53] <MickeySoFine> daftykins, any based in the UK?
[19:54] <daftykins> no idea
[19:54] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: well, here's my problem…I have a mac that has OS X Lion on it…it's a SSD…I downloaded the Mavericks Installer from the app store but when I attempt to install it can not find my SSD drive…it's a non-standard SSD…What I was going to do is create a Mavericks recovery partition  and boot to it to reinstall the software
[19:54] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: I was going to use the dd command to create a Mavericks recovery partition
[19:54] <ashley01> MickeySoFine: it is much more fun (and sometimes cheaper) to build your own system
[19:55] <ashley01> I built mine about 3 years ago and the only problem I had was 1 failed HDD
[19:55] <ashley01> oh, and it is a good learning experience too
[19:55] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: #1 that's not ubuntu support, #2 do you not have a USB flash drive?
[19:55] <MickeySoFine> ashley01, I dont fancy building a laptop :)
[19:55] <ashley01> you ALWAYS bump into problems and have to fix them
[19:55] <ashley01> oh a laptop, fair enough x)
[19:56] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: I realize this isn't mac room but mac room does not know how to use the dd command
[19:56] <daftykins> MickeySoFine: Dell might still do that XPS 13 developer edition thing with ubuntu
[19:56] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: yes I have a USB flash drive
[19:56] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: then why aren't you using disk utility to make it up as a Mavericks installer?
[19:57] <daftykins> the flash drive then becomes the mavericks recovery drive.
[19:57] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: I created the mavericks recovery drive using a USB but it does not recovery my SSD drive for some reason
[19:58] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: I can't install Mavericks if it does not show my SSD drive to install it do
[19:58] <john_doe_jr1> *to
[19:58] <daftykins> ok well that's an Apple support issue
[20:00] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: well, I'm out of warranty….what would be your opinion about why the external USB Mavericks installer doesn't show the USB drive?
[20:01] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: i don't own macs so i'm not sure, but as i said this is #ubuntu - totally off topic conversation for here i'm afraid.
[20:01] <Susning> Running 14.04 and Chrome 37... How do I get the GTK Theme to apply for Chrome as for other parts of the system?
[20:01] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: alright no problem
[20:02] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: maybe yours is an unsupported model that they dropped?
[20:02] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: that is what I'm a afraid of
[20:02] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: what model is it?
[20:02] <daftykins> "x,y"
[20:02] <daftykins> or year and month
[20:02] <Susning> Both Ubuntu and Chrome is 64-bit.
[20:03] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: 17-inch, Early 2011 MacBook Pro
[20:04] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: it's a really great laptop..and it has SSD…I just can not upgrade it to Mavericks…it annoying b/c I need to run Xcode and Xcode requires Mavericks
[20:04] <Bashing-om> john_doe_jr1: Maybe, is the Mac booting "fast start" such that the small SSD is actually a raid disk, and to use it conventionally the raid meta data needs to be removed ?? just a thought .
[20:04] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: boot the USB flash drive then run disk utility
[20:05] <trism> Susning: probably no easy way to do it, since chrome 35 gtk isn't rendering the widgets, chrome does it itself
[20:06] <wind0> any ideas why my system's fan would speed up significantly while running lubuntu desktop?  task manager shows xchat 1%, others commands pop up for 2-5% from time to time but nothing extreme... yet soon after boot the fan (slowly) begins to speed up and stops at approx 50% of the highest speed i've heard... WinXP does nothing similar (i'm trying to replace WinXP on this old XPS400)
[20:06] <Susning> trism: i was affraid of something like that. so there is'nt any alternative arround getting Chrome to look different?
[20:07] <daftykins> wind0: see if it's failing to speedstep the processor, is it intel?
[20:07] <daftykins> wind0: open a terminal and run: watch -n 0.1 `cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz'
[20:08] <john_doe_jr1> Bashing-om: how would I determine if my mac is booting fast start?
[20:08] <wind0> daftykins: yes intel, pentium D
[20:08] <wind0> will try the watch cmd
[20:08] <Bashing-om> john_doe_jr1: Out of my league - no direct experience with Mac - in years .
[20:08] <daftykins> wind0: you should be able to see whether the system lets the processor clock itself down or whether it remains running at top speed
[20:09] <New_Kali_User> anyone able to help with some setup issues im having in kali since its based on ubuntu now ?
[20:09] <New_Kali_User> 1st my audio sounds like crap all crackling in vlc but the system audio sounds fine
[20:09] <New_Kali_User> 2nd my wifi is connecting but slow as a snail in kali but fine in windows but cant seem to get online for nothing in kali with it
[20:09] <daftykins> we don't support kali
[20:09] <New_Kali_User> should the issues not be the same since its based off ubuntu
[20:09] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: would definitely be interested to know if disk utility from the USB boot session sees the SSD
[20:09] <daftykins> New_Kali_User: no, sorry
[20:10] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: well, I'm going to try it again…I'm going to reboot and then I'll let you know…be back in like 5 minutes
[20:10] <daftykins> New_Kali_User: #kali-linux is their channel
[20:10] <New_Kali_User> yea no one active right now so thought id try here
[20:10] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: can you not come online from another device whilst doing so?
[20:11] <daftykins> New_Kali_User: ok, you must stick to there and be patient then i'm afraid
[20:11] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: I have another computer but I'd have to find it …I'll try to find it
[20:11] <Susning> trism: I think I found what I need: http://frai7ty.deviantart.com/art/Numix-for-Chrome-362293134
[20:11] <New_Kali_User> yup yup no worries im googlin about using wicd just gotta get a offline package since i cant get my net working
[20:12] <wind0> daftykins: looks like cpu is remaining at full speed, two cpus at 2793.214 MHz
[20:12] <New_Kali_User> ok whats the best irc client for linux ? konversation ?
[20:13] <daftykins> wind0: that's definitely not good, pop back into Windows and grab cpu-z from cpuid.org(i think?) and compare what it idles down to
[20:13] <bubbasaures> New_Kali_User, How would one determine the best?
[20:13] <daftykins> there is no best, use what works.
[20:14] <New_Kali_User> lol true enough havent used linux in a long time so out of date
[20:14] <wind0> daftykins: maybe this helps explain why i'm having trouble keeping l/x/ubuntu running on this system but xp is ok
[20:14] <trism> Susning: excellent, hope it works
[20:15] <Susning> trism it did :)
[20:15] <Susning> trism at least knowing that the gtk-theme was not the solution pointed me in the right direction ;)
[20:16] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: alright..didn't show the SSD drive…I even did a diskutil -list ..
[20:16] <daftykins> wind0: john_doe_jr1 can you tell me what mac channel you were in, so we can take this somewhere more relevant?
[20:16] <daftykins> oops wind0 sorry for the fail highlight
[20:16] <wind0> np
[20:17] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: I was in #mac
[20:17] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: I'm logged into that channel at work so I can't get into the channel right now though
[20:17] <daftykins> wind0: i'd also compare from a TTY, with "sudo service lightdm stop" to rule out X
[20:18] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: ##mac yeah?
[20:18] <bprompt> New_Kali_User:     konversation, quassel, kvirc, iirsx, xchat, pick your poison, I prefer xchat
[20:19] <rizal> hello guys, i have problems when i try to remaster ubuntu 14.04 with chroot. the problems come when i build the iso image and then try in virtualbox, when i try the iso image, the login screen cannot show, the ubuntu stuck in plymount, thx :)
[20:20] <FreewheelinFrank> i want to delete archives in my boot directory, whats the command?
[20:20] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: you want to get rid of old kernels?
[20:20] <daftykins> FreewheelinFrank: 'archives' you mean older kernels?
[20:20] <rizal> i followed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:20] <FreewheelinFrank> yes
[20:20] <daftykins> EriC^^: your ticket (:
[20:20] <EriC^^> daftykins: :)
[20:20] <Wolf__> ubuntu is crzy
[20:20] <FreewheelinFrank> daftykins yes
[20:20] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[20:21] <EriC^^> and paste the result in paste.ubuntu.com
[20:21] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: pretty show this is the problem: http://www.wexoo.net/20131109/fixed-osx-mavericks-wont-recognise-intel-ssd
[20:21] <wind0> daftykins, I'll give the TTY test a try before switching back to XP.  is there a way to restart X and resume apps (xchat) that are running after stopping it ?
[20:22] <rizal> any body in here could help me?, please
[20:22] <daftykins> wind0: nah, upon stopping it all programs will force quit
[20:22] <wind0> ok
[20:22] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>done
[20:23] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: link please?
[20:23] <rizal> hello guys, i have problems when i try to remaster ubuntu 14.04 with chroot. the problems come when i build the iso image and then try in virtualbox, when i try the iso image, the login screen cannot show, the ubuntu stuck in plymount, thx :)
[20:23] <rizal> i followed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:23] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>http://paste.ubuntu.com/8495198/
[20:23] <rizal> any body in here could help me?, please
[20:23] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: and you have this intel SSD? you should be running latest firmware regardless, but as i said i would rather take this conversation somewhere else
[20:24] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: what exactly did you type?
[20:24] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: i think you missed the "|" between dpkg -l and grep
[20:24] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: I know..I wish I could get into the ##mac but it requires a registered user
[20:24] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>dpkg -l grep linux-image
[20:24] <EriC^^> type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[20:25] <bprompt> FreewheelinFrank:   don't forget the pipe, pun intended /me ducks
[20:25] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>http://paste.ubuntu.com/8495220/
[20:25] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: err, so auth with nickserv? :)
[20:26] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>ive had this problem for a while. \boot is only 200 MB
[20:26] <john_doe_jr1> daftykins: how do I do that?
[20:26] <daftykins> john_doe_jr1: join #freenode and ask there
[20:26] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: you typed type this time :P
[20:27] <DJones> !register | john_doe_jr1
[20:27] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: are you using pastebinit ?
[20:27] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>ah right looking for right key
[20:28] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>http://paste.ubuntu.com/8495232/
[20:29] <EriC^^> wow
[20:30] <EriC^^> just, wow.
[20:30] <Wind02> daftykins: no change in cpu freqs after stopx... alt+ctrl+f7 results in a black screen... is 'ps -a' enough to check if X is fully shutdown?
[20:30] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>Im running 4.14
[20:31] <daftykins> Wind02: it no longer being on F7 is plenty, obviously fire up again with "sudo service lightdm start"
[20:31] <daftykins> EriC^^: hehe that's a lorra kernels
[20:31] <FreewheelinFrank> daftykins>I'm collecting em
[20:31] <daftykins> FreewheelinFrank: gotta catch 'em all!
[20:31] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: type for i in 12 13 14 15 17 18 20 22 23 24; do sudo apt-get purge -y linux-image-3.11.0-$i-generic; done
[20:32] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: type for i in 30 31; do sudo apt-get purge -y linux-image-3.13.0-$i-generic; done
[20:32] <EriC^^> and send whoever invented the for loop in bash an email
[20:32] <EriC^^> :P
[20:33] <daftykins> i like that one, i think i'd have wildcard removed linux-image-3.11*
[20:33] <yecril71pl> Bug #1377513
[20:33] <EriC^^> daftykins: you can't in apt-get
[20:33] <daftykins> EriC^^: really? could've sworn i'd done it before
[20:33] <daftykins> i've got nothing to test that out with i don't think
[20:34] <hillary> Am missing icons in the top right corner of ubuntu 14.04 like shutdown icon
[20:34] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>kinda stuck, do I exist now?
[20:34] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>kinda stuck, do I exit now?
[20:35] <hillary> How do i enable them
[20:35] <EriC^^> what do you mean stuck
[20:35] <EriC^^> did you type for ....... done?
[20:35] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>probably typed wrong, i dont see my cursor, just the '>'
[20:36] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>yep
[20:37] <EriC^^> what's the exact command you typed?
[20:38] <Ben64> FreewheelinFrank: why not copy+paste?
[20:38] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>ok it seems to be executing now
[20:39] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>i didnt include 'done'
[20:39] <As4xk> Hi. I have a FreeBSD instance in qemu-kvm on Ubuntu 14.04. While resilvering a zpool disk in the FreeBSD one of the disks got an error (according to zpool status). I used smartctl in the host to test the drive, but it didn't find any errors. Can anyone help me understand the output from dmesg? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8495292/
[20:39] <hillary> again every time i bootup my ubuntu 14.04 i have to go ctrl+alt+f2 then run startx command in order for the desktop icons to show up. what am missing?
[20:39] <EriC^^> FreewheelinFrank: are you sure?
[20:40] <EriC^^> hillary: lightdm?
[20:40] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>the second one just started..hold on
[20:40] <OerHeks> hillary, really ? as 14.04 uses lightdm, it should be start lightdm
[20:40] <Ben64> hillary: you should never do startx, that can mess stuff up
[20:41] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>http://paste.ubuntu.com/8495319/
[20:41] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>list got shorter, will see if update will run
[20:42] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>130MB free wow
[20:43] <EriC^^> that's nothing
[20:43] <EriC^^> each one should free about 200 or so
[20:43] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>i was following old notes when I partitioned, and gave it only 200 MB.
[20:44] <EriC^^> type df -h
[20:44] <hillary> ok
[20:45] <hillary> so i do start lightdm?
[20:45] <FreewheelinFrank> Eric>its kinda messy...http://paste.ubuntu.com/8495338/
[20:45] <Ben64> hillary: it should start automatically
[20:45] <EriC^^> hillary: try to reinstall it, sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[20:47] <sheap> I'm running a preseed which installs a custom package that has an init script. when the package is installed it gives me this error: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/139225/
[20:48] <sheap> it's running "update-rc.d menuinit.sh start 2 . stop 0 6 ." and the start/stop are defined in the script itself
[20:48] <hillary> ok
[20:48] <sheap> just for some reason update-rc.d is ignoring my arguments I give it... whether it is from the package or from running everything manually
[20:51] <daftykins> sheap: is it a debian package as opposed to an ubuntu one?
[20:51] <sheap> daftykins: it's a package I made
[20:51] <bdonnahue1> can anyone help me install ardour. the software center does not have the install button for the package
[20:52] <hillary> how do iget missing right icons in ubuntu 14.04
[20:52] <daftykins> sheap: i was under the impression ubuntu doesn't use runlevels conventionally
[20:52] <daftykins> hillary: you've had suggestions given, try them
[20:52] <sheap> well it's still possible to use init scripts with upstart, it's just that update-rc.d is ignoring me
[20:52] <hillary> i mean the icon for shutting down volume  icon calender etc
[20:53] <OerHeks> bdonnahue1, sure it does
[20:53] <mgolisch> bdonnahue1: i think you have to pay for compiled/packaged versions
[20:53] <OerHeks> !info ardour
[20:53] <mgolisch> bdonnahue1: you can grab the sourcecode from their website though
[20:53] <OerHeks> bdonnahue1, enable universe repo if not enabled in softwaresources
[20:54] <bdonnahue1> OerHeks: thanks i see that source. ill try to figure out how to enable
[20:54] <morsnowski> bdonnahue1: there are two packages in my list one is dead but the other works great
[20:55] <bdonnahue1> which one worked?
[20:55] <morsnowski> the other one
[20:56] <bdonnahue1> lol
[20:56] <bdonnahue1> i ran add-apt-repository universe
[20:56] <Susning> This will sound quite anal but I have a question. In the left upper corner the name of the active application is shown, like for me now: "XChat IRC". If I move the mouse cursor over the menu I get options, XChat, View etc (depending on which program that is active). My question is: Can I change the distance between the application name and the menu options? Like in most cases the application name is overlapping the menu options whichs is no
[20:56] <Susning> t looking very good. Anyone knows?
[20:57] <bdonnahue1> and it sait the distribution component is already enables
[20:57] <bdonnahue1> but then in software center there is still no install button
[20:57] <mgolisch> probably because there is just a source package
[20:58] <morsnowski> on 14.04 there is a really nice install button for it
[20:59] <OerHeks> maybe you need to select the package first to see the install button
[21:00] <morsnowski> that you have to do for all packages
[21:01] <bdonnahue1> selecting the package does not help
[21:02] <morsnowski> did you click both packages?
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[21:04] <DeLorean> I'm trying to follow this wiki (http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Suspend_and_wake_in_Ubuntu) to allow my wireless keyboard to wake my sleeping laptop (Ubuntu 14.04). Everything shows as enabled under USB when I type "cat /proc/acpi/wakeup".  I'll try that first :)
[21:05] <daftykins> ashley01: best to just ignore it when the drama llama visits #ubuntu
[21:06] <ashley01> and why on earth are they advertising ps3 mods with 'free' games?
[21:06] <ashley01> very unusual spam
[21:06] <Sonderblade> where has all the packages for ubuntu 11.04 gone? my sources.list doesn't work at all anymore
[21:07] <morsnowski> Sonderblade: is that still supported?
[21:07] <mgolisch> probably moved to archive
[21:08] <Sonderblade> morsnowski: no, but i didn't except the package archives to disappear all of a sudden
[21:08] <mgolisch> they move stuff to archive.ubuntu.com
[21:08] <morsnowski> :) happened to me too
[21:08] <mgolisch> for unsupported versions
[21:08] <EriC^^> Sonderblade: mgolisch it moves to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[21:08] <Sonderblade> my sources are pointing at archive: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[21:09] <Sonderblade> nothing there
[21:09] <EriC^^> Sonderblade: type sudo sed -i -e 's/archive.ubuntu.com\|security.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:10] <mgolisch> oh
[21:10] <mgolisch> :)
[21:10] <EriC^^> Sonderblade: or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , and replace archive.ubuntu.com with old-releases.ubuntu.com
[21:11] <morsnowski> there seems to be some work going on in the archives
[21:11] <OerHeks> Sonderblade, not all over sudden.
[21:12] <OerHeks> Sonderblade, do you have not been watching your machine since oktober 2012?
[21:12] <Sonderblade> EriC^^: thanks
[21:12] <ashley01> I am wondering, when I play a game like OpenTTD, is it using Timidity to play the MIDI files? And if so, would that mean Timidity is at fault if MIDI files are not played correctly (e.g. instruments being missed out)?
[21:13] <OerHeks> the oldrelases trick does not make you safe. no bash update etc
[21:14] <OerHeks> ashley01, no timidity standard here.
[21:14] <Sonderblade> OerHeks: it's one of my vps servers, so even if i wanted to (which i absolutely does not!) i couldn't keep up with ubuntus release schedule
[21:15] <daftykins> Sonderblade: you've been briefed on running EOL releases, presumably? and how unwise it is?
[21:15] <OerHeks> Sonderblade, that does not explain "all over sudden"
[21:16] <EriC^^> daftykins: sorry for the late reply, just tried it, linux-image-3.11* would work, it would try to remove all the packages in the cache matching it, so it's ok for removing kernels, i think someone told me it didn't work for him once, i think what we did was linux-image-3.13.0*generic and that apt-get complains about
[21:16] <morsnowski> if you look into the archive folder you'll find a list of packages that are currently being moved
[21:16] <Sonderblade> daftykins: it's slowly dawning upon me that ubuntu is not a good server os
[21:16] <Sonderblade> daftykins: the ubuntu 11.04 image is the one offered by the hosting provider, it's not something i can control
[21:16] <daftykins> Sonderblade: no it's great, you just didn't pick an LTS release which is how it's meant to be done.
[21:17] <morsnowski> Sonderblade: then your provider might not be the best
[21:17]  * OerHeks would drop that provider
[21:17] <daftykins> Sonderblade: you need to use a long term support edition for it to last several years and not get stuck in upgrade hell all the time
[21:17] <daftykins> EriC^^: ah that makes sense, perhaps it can't pattern match when an ending is added. :) thanks for checking
[21:17] <ashley01> OerHeks: do you mean no talking about Timidity here? not sure what you meant
[21:18] <OerHeks> ashley01, just saying timidity is not installed standard
[21:18] <ashley01> it is for me (14.04)
[21:18] <ashley01> oh actually, i dont know if it is
[21:18] <ashley01> i just happen to have it without manually installing it
[21:18] <daftykins> !info timidity
[21:19] <daftykins> our survey says - no, optionally installed :)
[21:19] <ashley01> ah ok
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[21:23] <mehcookie> !troll | ubottu
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[21:23] <ashley01> i dont understand why he is advertising that
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[21:23] <daftykins> ashley01: like i said, acknowledging them fuels their actions
[21:24] <ashley01> oh sorry mate
[21:24] <mehcookie> !troll | bubbasaures
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[21:24] <mehcookie> !ops
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[21:24] <ashley01> what is he doing with my name?
[21:25] <EriC^^> heh, thanks mehcookie that's awesome that ubottu can say see above if you miss highlighting someone
[21:25] <EriC^^> !cookie | mehcookie
[21:25] <ashley01> !cookie daftykins
[21:25] <morsnowski> EriC^^: don't feed him after dark !
[21:25] <ashley01> !cookie | daftykins
[21:27] <daftykins> as it happens i have a packet of cookies right now too 8D
[21:27] <ashley01> why did I have to use '|' inbetween the command and name?
[21:28] <EriC^^> ashley01: it is a reference to piping a command in bash, it tells ubottu to direct the factoid to the nickname you give
[21:29] <ashley01> so I am telling the command to accept all arguments after the '|' ?
[21:29] <EriC^^> what? no
[21:30] <ashley01> is the cookie command defined as something like this: cookie(input_string)
[21:31] <EriC^^> it's more like an option here
[21:31] <ashley01> !cookie | daftykins EriC^^
[21:31] <ashley01> oh it accepted that as a whole string
[21:31]  * EriC^^ is liking you a bit
[21:31] <ashley01> !cookie | daftykins, EriC^^
[21:32] <ashley01> ah ok I see
[21:32] <EriC^^> so space parses it
[21:32] <EriC^^> the kicker is >
[21:32] <EriC^^> !cookie > ashley01
[21:32] <ashley01> oh nice :D
[21:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:32] <ashley01> !cookie | !ops
[21:33] <EriC^^> btw ubottu  has a nice "feature"
[21:33] <EriC^^> check this
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[21:33] <EriC^^> did you see anything?
[21:33] <ashley01> i see it x)
[21:33] <EriC^^> yeah, somebody should fix that :P
[21:34] <ashley01> !cookie > ubottu
[21:35] <ashley01> i remember ages ago in some irc chat room, cant remember which one: somebody made a bot that would output the first paragraph of a wikipedia page. So I edited a wikipedia page to contain a long string of capital letters (another bot kicked you out for typing in all caps) and got the bot kicked by another x)
[21:35] <EriC^^> hehe
[21:36] <EriC^^> ashley01: i was curious about getting ubottu to op someone
[21:36] <EriC^^> like you can get him to /msg nickserv
[21:36] <EriC^^> or chanserv
[21:36] <ashley01> does ubottu have admin privileges itself?
[21:36] <EriC^^> yeah he does
[21:37] <ashley01> that's a time bomb
[21:37] <ashley01> i dont know much about irc commands though so i am useless x)
[21:37] <phunyguy> she*
[21:38] <OerHeks> ashley01, no it is not. http://ubottu.com/
[21:38] <EriC^^> try this
[21:38] <Nickleback> HEy
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[21:38] <phunyguy> Can we stick to ubuntu support? ubottu questions can go in #ubuntu-irc
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[21:38] <EriC^^> !cookie | /msg chanserv op #ubuntu ashley01
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[21:38] <unopaste> Nickleback you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:38] <unopaste> Nickleback you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:39] <EriC^^> ah, ubottu actually wrote /msg
[21:39] <ashley01> it accepts everything after | as a whole string
[21:39] <ashley01> !cookie | "
[21:40] <Logan_> EriC^^: please stop trying to exploit the bot
[21:40] <phunyguy> OK, ashley01, and EriC^^ please stick to Ubuntu support, or take this conversation to #ubuntu-irc
[21:40] <ashley01> sorry, i will stop
[21:40] <phunyguy> and yes, please stop trying to exploit the bot
[21:41] <Logan_> you can play with the bot in #ubuntu-bots
[21:41] <ashley01> !cookie > phunyguy
[21:41] <phunyguy> ....
[21:41] <Logan_> ashley01: doing that doesn't help
[21:41] <ashley01> :P
[21:41] <samthewildone> is there a terminal command in which I can get some info on a file ?
[21:41] <ashley01> im just messing
[21:41] <ashley01> i'll stick to the rules
[21:41] <samthewildone> example, I have a image and want to know its resolution and size before I convert it.
[21:41] <EriC^^> samthewildone: file <filename> , or info <filename>
[21:42] <samthewildone> EriC^^, I did info but,
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[21:42] <ashley01> phunyguy: why did that person type "!ops ashley01"?
[21:43] <samthewildone> EriC^^, thanks, though info did something completely different.
[21:44] <phunyguy> there, that should hold off the spam for a bit.  If you don't have a registered nickname, please get one now, or you won't be able to rejoin until this is removed
[21:44] <phunyguy> !register
[21:44] <ashley01> phunyguy
[21:45] <ashley01> why did that person type !ops and then my name?
[21:45] <ikonia> ashley01: don't worry about it
[21:45] <ashley01> ok
[21:45] <phunyguy> ashley01: they are trolling.  Just ignore it.
[21:46] <daftykins> wierd thing is i kinda want a PS3 now :/
[21:47] <EriC^^> lol
[21:49] <morsnowski> mission accomplished then, how about telling the bot to kick everyone using "ps3"
[21:49] <phunyguy> we handled it.  Please move on.
[21:49] <morsnowski> k
[21:50] <daftykins> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PS3Compatibility
[21:50] <daftykins> hrmm
[21:50] <catalyst_> Has anyone experienced any trouble with the latest Nvidia drivers (340.46, not in repos)? Just wondering if its safe to install from nvidia
[21:50] <ashley01> you could install a linux distro on PS2 long ago and they even had software to emulate a global LAN
[21:51] <daftykins> !nvidia | catalyst_
[21:51] <ikonia> catalyst_: why would you use packages from outside the repo ?
[21:51] <daftykins> ah that wasn't really what i was hoping for, apologies
[21:51] <ilhami> Hey
[21:51] <ikonia> catalyst_: especially for something as criticl as your display
[21:51] <daftykins> hi
[21:51] <ilhami> anyone who can assist me improving the performance of my elementaryOS VM?
[21:51] <catalyst_> ikonia: they are more up-to-date
[21:51] <ikonia> catalyst_: in what way more up to date apart from a bigger version number
[21:52] <ikonia> ilhami: not this channel - sorry
[21:52] <OerHeks> nope ilhami elementary is not ubuntu.
[21:52] <ilhami> it is Ubuntu based :D
[21:52] <catalyst_> ikonia: Performance improvements
[21:52] <ikonia> !elementary > ilhami
[21:52] <ikonia> catalyst_: sorry, I don't believe that
[21:52] <OerHeks> ilhami, elementary has its own issues
[21:52] <ikonia> catalyst_: certainly not something you'll see with the named eye
[21:52] <ikonia> catalyst_: you'll then remove support from the package manager for you display, not something I'd recommend unless you are %101 confident with what you are doing
[21:55] <catalyst_> ikonia: This is why I was asking if it was safe
[21:55] <catalyst_> so thanks
[21:57] <catalyst_> Well then, what would be the diff. between the drivers-331-updates package as supposed to the regular one?
[21:58] <ikonia> catalyst_: this is why I asked you
[21:58] <ashley01> I'm wondering this as well because I use fglrx instead of fglrx-updates
[21:58] <ikonia> catalyst_: if you don't know the differences - why are you looking to upgrade them
[21:59] <catalyst_> Why are you being rude? Im just comming back to linux today from years of being away and just want to get things working
[21:59] <catalyst_> Ill ask elsewhere
[21:59] <ikonia> catalyst_: I'm not being rude
[21:59] <ikonia> catalyst_: I'm asking why you are looking to change/update software when you don't know the difference between the two products
[21:59] <ikonia> it's not an unreasonable question
[22:00] <ikonia> ask elsewhere though if you're not comfortable being asked a polite question
[22:00] <OerHeks> releasenotes are on the package page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/nvidia-331/331.38-0ubuntu7.1
[22:45] <monkers> hello, my nas is totally flaking out, the raid array isnt available and neither is the LVM array.  Getting a lot of nasty I/O errors on boot and on console (media errors).  Could someone help me determine which drives are bad and how to recover without borking everything?  I'm in over my head...  >_<
[22:46] <daftykins> monkers: sure, what ubuntu are you typing from?
[22:46] <monkers> ... --- ...
[22:47] <EriC^^> i think that's eol
[22:47] <monkers> im on my PC, its a win machine
[22:47] <daftykins> monkers: so the NAS is a PC that runs ubuntu...?
[22:47] <monkers> yes
[22:47] <monkers> its an intel board with a bunch of harddrives, a custom job
[22:48] <daftykins> is the OS on a separate disk, or part of the array?
[22:48] <monkers> Yah, the OS is on it's own drive.  then I have a raid array with 2 HD's.  and an LVM array with like... 4 harddrives i think.
[22:48] <daftykins> ok install smartmontools and pastebinit then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit" for each disk that's a RAID member
[22:48] <daftykins> and share the links here
[22:49] <monkers> ok bad news... whenever i try to apt-get or even touch something in my home dir, "cannot touch 'kitty':read-only file system"
[22:50] <monkers> (this was not a r/o file system before)
[22:50] <daftykins> ok boot live media of 12.04 or 14.04 and do as above.
[22:50] <monkers> ok like on a usb right?
[22:51] <daftykins> monkers: preferably, yeah
[22:51] <daftykins> DVD is just painful these days
[22:51] <monkers> for sure
[22:52] <ObrienDave> DVD-RW works much better for me. horrible luck with USB
[22:53] <daftykins> heh
[22:53] <monkers> i'm a dvd drive short anyway
[22:53] <ObrienDave> ah, say no more ;)
[22:54] <monkers> i hope its just the main drive thats mucked up :(
[22:54] <daftykins> the above should point out some aspects pretty easily
[22:55] <daftykins> are they in warranty?
[22:55] <monkers> ok, all the errors on the console are listed for 'ata3.00'
[22:55] <monkers> i doubt it
[22:55] <ObrienDave> well, off to work. good day all
[22:55] <monkers> see ya
[22:56] <daftykins> ObrienDave: take care
[22:56] <daftykins> doh
[22:56] <daftykins> monkers: ok, you could find out which /dev ata3 is from reading dmesg then
[22:56] <daftykins> once you get the live session up
[22:56] <monkers> ok
[22:56] <monkers> yah console is being overtaken by media error messages
[22:57] <daftykins> SSH in perhaps
[22:57] <docmur> I have three disks in an LVM configuration, they are stored as /dev/dm0 - 2.  I also have the physical partiions listed in /dev/ as sda, sdb and sdc.  I wanted to schedual a disk check with tune2fs for next reboot, should i assign the check to the logical volumes dm# or sd#?
[22:58] <monkers> daftykins - yesterday i could ping but not ssh, today after reboot no ping or ssh
[22:58] <ikonia> docmur: neither
[22:58] <ikonia> docmur: you check the LV's
[22:58] <ikonia> not the physical devices
[22:58] <daftykins> monkers: it'll be different from the live session though
[22:58] <monkers> ah ya
[22:59] <abcd> hi all, has someone used remmina + ssh ?
[22:59] <docmur> hmmm okay, how would I do that then, I think something is corrupt on one of the volumes
[22:59] <daftykins> !details | abcd
[22:59] <monkers> Anyone know if the lvm or raid partitions rely on anything on the main OS drive that could not be reconfigured manually?
[23:00] <abcd> I want to connect over vnc and ssh to a remote machine
[23:00] <TheBloke> Hi all. I'm running KUbuntu 14.10 64bit (upgraded from 14.04). I've installed the Android SDK, and added various packages via the SDK Manager. But I can't run some of the binaries, e.g. adb, fastboot. When I try to execute them, it just says 'file not found'. I ran 'file adb' and I see it's a 32bit binary - so I'm thinking I'm missing some kind of 32bit support package I need to run 32bit executables? I can't see anything
[23:00] <TheBloke> immediately suitable in Synaptic or Muon
[23:00] <ikonia> monkers: the partitions are on the disk/stored in the partition table
[23:00] <ikonia> monkers: as in on the physical devices
[23:00] <abcd> using x11vnc on remote machine and remmina as client
[23:00] <monkers> ikonia - ok cool
[23:01] <monkers> ok bios sees all the harddrives still
[23:02] <trism> TheBloke: yeah you'll need at least libc6:i386 or you get that weird file not found message
[23:03] <daftykins> monkers: just give me a highlight once you've got the pastebin URLs
[23:03] <monkers> ok
[23:04] <daftykins> abcd: remmina is an RDP client, there'd be no need for VNC...
[23:04] <daftykins> or does it do VNC too 0o
[23:04] <abcd> yep
[23:04] <daftykins> yeah so you want SSH tunneling
[23:05] <TheBloke> trism: Awesome, thank you!  Installing libc6:i386 changed 'file not found' to a missing libstdc++6 error, and installing that for i386 as well enabled me to run adb.  Thanks!
[23:06] <_unreal_> hello
[23:08] <_unreal_> I installed 14.04lts on an older system of mine to be used as a server. I have VNC setup on it. I'd like to make the system into a read only OS residing on a compact flash card. how would I go about doing that?
[23:09] <daftykins> _unreal_: that wouldn't be wise, it'll need updates.
[23:10] <_unreal_> I and planning on setting it up as an intranet only system
[23:10] <_unreal_> am
[23:11] <daftykins> _unreal_: even offline things need security updates. maybe consider using a stable release of debian that doesn't need updates so regularly
[23:15] <veryhappy> hey guys, how can it be that tinywm doesn't start when i logged in, xfwm4 is not listen in kde and crashes when i try to start it over my terminal and that i couldn't even click any command except "exit" in blackbox with something happening? the only thing that matters right now is that i get tinywm to run and i'd perhaps also impressed if xfwm4 would also be listed in kdm and run. help...
[23:15] <veryhappy> ...appreciated ;) thank you
[23:15] <Saw> hi, quick question: is there a way to make a window untouchable(by keyboard) ?
[23:20] <EriC^^> Saw: untouchable, as in always on top?
[23:21] <Saw> EriC^^ - kind of. I use vlc with always on top + always on visible workspace, but when moving to different workspace, it gets the focus. I don't want that.
[23:21] <Saw> I don't need it to ever get focus(keyboard focus, that is)
[23:22] <EriC^^> so remove the always on visible workspace
[23:22] <EriC^^> no?
[23:22] <Saw> EriC^^ - but then it won't be always on visible workspace.. I want it to be visible in every workspace..
[23:23] <EriC^^> i've no experience with using workspaces
[23:23] <Saw> :\
[23:23] <EriC^^> but alt+space will give you the minimize/always on top options
[23:23] <EriC^^> like alt + space + n will minimize
[23:24] <monkers> daftykins - i have it ready to run but not sure which /dev drives are the raid ones
[23:24] <daftykins> monkers: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[23:24] <daftykins> matched sizes, no?
[23:25] <monkers> thank you, got em, sdb1 and sdd1
[23:27] <ashley01> When I resize a window I am getting performance drops (in Unity), does anyone know what could be causing this?
[23:27] <monkers> daftykins - reading through the smartctrl outputs, i can tell that all drives appear to be in good health except my OS drive \o/
[23:28] <ashley01> It seems to only be with gedit
[23:28] <daftykins> monkers: and that comes up as ata3? 0o
[23:28] <ashley01> Terminal and XChat work fine
[23:28] <monkers> daftykins - yah that is ata3. i cant get apt-get install ssh-server to work on the 14. livecd
[23:28] <daftykins> it's openssh-server no?
[23:28] <daftykins> !info openssh-server
[23:28] <daftykins> yip
[23:30] <monkers> its saying "openssh-server : Depends: openssh-client (=1;6.6p1-2ubuntu1) but 1:6.6p1-2ubuntu2 is to be installed - You have held broken packages
[23:31] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install -f , maybe?
[23:32] <daftykins> seems a bit odd on a live session
[23:32] <_unreal_> daftykins, it only needs updates if its getting online
[23:32] <daftykins> _unreal_: that's rubbish
[23:32] <monkers> still barkin at me
[23:33] <_unreal_> rubbish you say
[23:34] <EriC^^> !info openssh-client
[23:34] <EriC^^> that's odd, i get ubuntu1 here
[23:34] <EriC^^> monkers: try to sudo apt-get update
[23:37] <_unreal_> wierd, ok file:///run/media/laptop/FOSS_EL/content0/detector/flash_passthru.html     I cant get this site to come up in firefox. and I have flash 11.2 installed
[23:37] <monkers> Eric^^ yah there it goes
[23:37] <ashley01> ah rhythmbox, forever crashing for making a playlist
[23:37] <Julie7> Hi! How do I force Firefox (or any software) to ONLY use my VPN connection in Ubuntu 14.04?
[23:40] <monkers> daftykins - ok got it - http://pastebin.com/CD5xSirj
[23:40] <daftykins> monkers: omw a maxtor
[23:41] <monkers> haha
[23:41] <daftykins> monkers: yep that thing is now a paperweight
[23:41] <monkers> ok
[23:41]  * monkers digs around for new harddrive
[23:44] <monkers> ok i found a 500gig... maybe overkill but it'll do.  :D
[23:44] <ashley01> When I resize Terminal: everything is smooth. When I resize gedit: it is not-so-smooth. Anyone know the reason why?
[23:45] <Julie7> Hi! How do I force Firefox (or any software) to ONLY use my VPN connection in Ubuntu 14.04?
[23:46] <monkers> julie7 - thats more a matter of routing, i would think
[23:46] <Julie7> monkers: Is that a hard thing to do?
[23:47] <daftykins> Julie7: did you disable your system changing the default gateway to the VPN endpoint?
[23:48] <Julie7> daftykins: I haven't made the switch, yet. I'm afraid to install Ubuntu as long as I don't know how to do this.
[23:48] <daftykins> Julie7: where are you testing from then?
[23:49] <Julie7> daftykins: I was hoping for a simple guide or something. I can't do any testing right now. :(
[23:49] <daftykins> Julie7: why not?
[23:49] <daftykins> you understand live sessions, yes?
[23:50] <daftykins> or installing beside windows
[23:50] <Julie7> Because I only have one computer, and that one is running Windows (throws up).
[23:50] <Julie7> daftykins: Yes, I know ABOUT doing it that way.
[23:51] <daftykins> so how come you don't test it that way?
[23:51] <monkers> Julie7 - is this somethin you are already doing in windows?
[23:51] <Julie7> daftykins: Because I was still hoping for a more simple way. I'm not a very technical person. :(
[23:52] <Julie7> daftykins: It feels as if I'm the first person that ever wants to do this.
[23:52] <Julie7> monkers: Yes!
[23:52] <Julie7> I know how to do it in Windows.
[23:52] <monkers> how do you do it in windows?
[23:52] <EriC^^> Julie7: this might be of help
[23:52] <daftykins> Julie7: no, and i don't mean any offence here, you just don't seem to understand how VPN connections work
[23:52] <EriC^^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171678
[23:53] <Julie7> monkers: My home network is private, my OpenVPN connection is public. I block the software in my firewall settings to only use my public network (OpenVPN).
[23:53] <Julie7> EriC^^: Thanks!
[23:53] <Julie7> daftykins: I guess not.
[23:53] <daftykins> hmm
[23:53] <daftykins> that is a very odd way of doing things
[23:54] <Julie7> daftykins: But it works! As soon as my OpenVPN connection gets disconnected, everything shuts down and refuse to respond.
[23:54] <daftykins> just because something works, doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea
[23:54] <Julie7> XD
[23:54] <Julie7> I know.
[23:54] <monkers> seems clever to me lol
[23:54] <daftykins> so you maintain your VPN session permanently, just for the occasional browser switch?
[23:54] <veryhappy> guys any ideas yet?
[23:54] <daftykins> i.e. you're connected to the VPN when you're not even using it?
[23:55] <monkers> Julie7 - do you want the whole network to stop if the VPN goes down?
[23:55] <monkers> like not just firefox
[23:55] <monkers> but other internet programs
[23:55] <Julie7> monkers: Yes, please.
[23:55] <Julie7> daftykins: I've routed all my programs to only use my OpenVPN connection. As soon as it disconnects, I can't connect to the Internet.
[23:55] <monkers> Julie7 could static route the default to the vpn gateway and remove the normal static out to the internet right?
[23:56] <Julie7> monkers: Uhm, I'm not sure. :o
[23:56] <daftykins> Julie7: the default behaviour of establishing a VPN connection with network-manager on Ubuntu is to direct all traffic via it. there will be no need to configure firefox
[23:57] <monkers> daftykins - so how does she prevent internet access if the VPN is not established?
[23:57] <Julie7> daftykins: But what happens if it disconnects while I'm browsing using Firefox and don't notice it? Will it just go back to my default connection?
[23:57] <daftykins> disable DNS
[23:57] <monkers> lol
[23:58] <daftykins> this is where your testing would come in handy ;)
[23:58] <Julie7> ;(
[23:58] <monkers> julie - what you need to do is configure a single route, to your VPN peer IP.  then have NO default route listed.  when the vpn is established, a default route will be added to the routing table, when it goes down, you will again only be able to route to/access the VPN peer IP (to re-establish your vpn)
[23:58] <daftykins> i'm sure if someone who uses VPNs on a regular basis is around, they can comment... but i personally don't. i'd do it via disabling local DNS though
[23:59] <monkers> so you need to find and delete your default route, and add a single route to your vpn host IP
[23:59] <EriC^^> i found this too, it mentions DNS as well
[23:59] <EriC^^> http://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/1axd7q/ubuntu_force_everything_through_vpn/
[23:59] <will_> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 and was hoping someone could help me out with a (should be simple) issue.  when logging in I set the default gui to gnome 3 instead of ubuntu.  after logging in I had on my top bar something I could click that had a bunch of options in it.  one being "big font" or something and it was turned on.  I turned it off just to see the effect and now I don't have thing I used to turn the "big font" off wi
[23:59] <daftykins> yay \o/
[23:59] <monkers> Remove the route for your default gateway.
[23:59] <monkers> Add a route to the remote ip of your vpn through the ip and interface that you previously used as default gateway