[16:28] <JakesDen> i like mate desktop environment more
[16:28] <ubuntu166> it tells me : "245 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them."
[16:28] <pr3c0g> BluesKaj, I'll try that
[16:28] <codfection_> run ^ : sudo apt-get install all
[16:28] <xangua> JakesDen: are you saying that the overheat is normal in both windows and Linux?
[16:29] <ubuntu166> cannot find package "all"
[16:29] <JakesDen> ubuntu-mate.org
[16:29] <codfection_> unity is official by ubuntu.
[16:29] <ducasse> ubuntu166: 'sudo apt full-upgrade'
[16:29] <JakesDen> the laptop overheats on both
[16:29] <codfection_> run ^ : sudo apt-get full-install
[16:29] <xangua> codfection_: Ubuntu mate is part of the official Ubuntu family
[16:30] <ubuntu166> oh man, why is this so complicated.. but it seems to be "hard at work" now.
[16:30] <codfection_> xangua, I heard ubuntu unity is more supported by the rest
[16:30] <xangua> ubuntu166: it's just codfection_ giving bad advice
[16:30] <ubuntu166> the "full-upgrade" line worked
[16:31] <codfection_> cooll
[16:31] <BluesKaj> codfection_:  check your commands before posting them please
[16:31] <codfection_> sorry I dont use ubuntu mate
[16:31] <ducasse> ubuntu166: you probably should reboot afterwards, that was a lot of upgrades.
[16:31] <BluesKaj> doesn't matter the ubuntu commabds worjk for all flavours
[16:31] <ducasse> codfection_: apt-get install all wouldn't work anywhere
[16:32] <ubuntu166> ducasse: why isn't it's being done automatically by the OS/software update?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> commands even
[16:32] <ubuntu166> ducasse: why do I need to write a line of code to do it manually?..
[16:32] <JakesDen> i forgot to update in a while so now i have 258 updates to do
[16:32] <codfection_> coz its not OS X
[16:32] <codfection_> its linux I guess
[16:32] <ducasse> ubuntu166: the update manager should ask you, check it's settings
[16:33] <codfection_> Linus torvalds didnt want linux to be user friendly
[16:33] <xangua> codfection_: please stop
[16:34] <JakesDen> brb
[16:34] <codfection_> xangua, I am serious
[16:34] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: If it is going bad.
[16:34] <ducasse> codfection_: chat goes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:34] <codfection_> I saw his interview
[16:34] <codfection_> alright
[16:35] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: what ?
[16:35] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Writing it, sorry haha
[16:35] <ZeekHuge> okay :)
[16:36] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I would check whether changing the resolution while it is still connected to something else, to see if it fixes it (without disconnecting the monitor)
[16:36] <BluesKaj> codfection_:  linus just looks after the kernel , he seldom uses a browser or a desktop
[16:36] <codfection_> ducasse, dont mind but I see everyone here talking offtopic mostly
[16:36] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: If it does, go back to the old resolution. If it is still having conniptions, something else is at play which I am unsure of.
[16:37] <rahul_kummi> into which directory should i generally extract the .tar.gz files to install an application.
[16:37] <Admin___> so, I installed xen in ubuntu, grub detects and runs xen, when it then prompts to run ubuntu, does it run virtualized, how can i find out?
[16:37] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: It might be a driver issue, but I don't know how drivers for external monitors work (I know with normal monitors).
[16:37] <bobby__> hi guys
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: ahh .. okay, I even switched from lightdm to gdm, though I think it must not be the problem, but this was an accepted ans.
[16:38] <bobby__> i really want to contribute to open source project, but i feel i can't contribute.Please help me, give me some advice.Thank you !
[16:38] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Actually, you could do that. Check using lspci -k, that should tell you the driver the monitor is using.
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> its intel
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> oh okay
[16:38] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, a fresh empty folder in your /home/ will do fine
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> sorry that i986
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> I blv
[16:39] <ZeekHuge> let me checl
[16:39] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: This is starting to get into my "I need to Google" area haha
[16:39] <akik> Admin___: try xm info or xl info. if that returns info on dom0, you're running xen
[16:39] <OerHeks> !contribute
[16:40] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: its i915
[16:40] <ZeekHuge> but
[16:40] <rahul_kummi> guys can someone help
[16:40] <Admin___> akik, you mean running xen hypervisor in ubuntu host or running ubuntu as a guest on xen?
[16:40] <rahul_kummi> but when i ina
[16:40] <akik> Admin___: your question was "how to know if i'm running xen?"
[16:41] <ubuntu857> Sorry, the full upgrade of apt-get did not work. I can't still locate package called "encryptfs-utils".
[16:41] <rahul_kummi> OerHeks, but when i install using apt-get where would the file be extracted
[16:41] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17217814/
[16:41] <Admin___> akik, I mean if ubuntu is running virtualized in xen
[16:41] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: what about that second VGA thing ?
[16:41] <ducasse> rahul_kummi: apt-file list packagename
[16:42] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, ohhh .. apt get installs the files in the place they need to be, no other action required
[16:42] <akik> Admin___: when you boot your xen hypervisor, you'll end up in xen's dom0. then when you create additional xen vms, they're domU
[16:42] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, after install, the program is ready
 Thank you
[16:42] <ZeekHuge> and terminal_crawler : http://paste.ubuntu.com/17217875/
[16:43] <Admin___> akik, when I run xen in grub, I just get a black screen with option to run ubuntu or ubuntu.efi. this is the only ubuntu on the system, where I installed xen from
[16:44] <akik> Admin___: yes, the ubuntu installation on top which you installed xen hypervisor is still ubuntu
[16:44] <rahul_kummi> what is the /opt/ directory earmarked for?
[16:45] <ducasse> rahul_kummi: 'optional'
[16:45] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, /opt/ is for third-party applications that don't rely on any dependencies outside that folder
[16:45] <bernardo> is there any way to play a specific musical note using aplay?
[16:46] <ubuntu857> can anyone help? I can't still find the package "ecryptfs-utils "
[16:46] <Admin___> akik, I'm guessing if/when I install VM's using whichever tool, they will also show alongside ubuntu, so when I run xen from grub and then choose ubuntu, does ubuntu run virtualized on top of xen?
[16:46] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: And you said it was a Lenovo laptop, right?
[16:46] <pr3c0g> BluesKaj, I installed that package and rebooted
[16:46] <ubuntu857> when I'm using apt-get install..
[16:47] <oaulakh> why my microphone not working on ubuntu it's working just fine on windows but not on ubuntu
[16:47] <akik> Admin___: the ubuntu installation that you see boot on your hardware is called xen dom0
[16:47] <codfection> go
[16:47] <akik> Admin___: i suggest you go read some docs about it
[16:47] <ducasse> ubuntu857: try 'apt update'
[16:47] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: yeah .. lenovo thinkpad T430
[16:47] <pr3c0g> I would like to have a way to control bass, surround, and the other stuff sound blaster cinema 2 had (http://i.imgur.com/225XvAv.png)
[16:48] <pr3c0g> It's currently the only thing bothering me on Ubuntu / Linux
[16:48] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Tried it now, same result.
[16:48] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I can't see a Dell laptop in that list.
[16:48] <coolstar-pc> what's a good hex editor that works well in KDE?
[16:48] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: It is currently working, correct?
[16:48] <ubuntu857> ducasse: I'm trying to run the line "sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils cryptsetup"
[16:49] <ubuntu857> ducasse: So I can encrypt my home folder
[16:49] <coolstar-pc> I can't seem to find oketa in the ubuntu repos :/
[16:49] <coolstar-pc> (I'm on kubuntu 16.04)
[16:49] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: The monitor is a Dell monitor
[16:49] <ZeekHuge> and yes working correctly
[16:50] <ZeekHuge> for now atleast
[16:50] <ducasse> ubuntu857: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere
[16:50] <na_> Hello! I installed Ubuntu but it not run :( Help please!
[16:51] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I can see there is another controller there, the Nvidia graphics card.
[16:51] <coolstar-pc> ah, found it. was mispelling okteta as oketa
[16:51] <coolstar-pc> that's why it wasn't finding it -_-
[16:51] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: If you disconnect the monitor, do any of those lines dissappear?
[16:51] <na_> H E L P P L E A S E ! ! !
[16:51] <rahul_kummi> what are the purposes of /etc/ and /opt/ directories?
[16:51] <ducasse> na_: calm down!
[16:51] <na_> Whats partitions need create?
[16:52] <na_> Partitions by manual
[16:52] <ubuntu857> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/raw/PgZdv40N
[16:52] <OerHeks> !partitioning | na_
[16:52] <tgm4883> na_: minimally, the root partition /
[16:53] <ducasse> rahul_kummi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[16:53] <tgm4883> rahul_kummi: run 'man hier'
[16:53] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: when monitor is not connected http://paste.ubuntu.com/17218329/
[16:53] <na_> I use LVM
[16:53] <Admin___> akik, I have, according to the image dom0 is virtualized http://wiki.xen.org/mediawiki/images/0/09/Xen_arch1.png
[16:53] <na_> I need /boot and / only!?
[16:53] <rahul_kummi> thank you tgm4883 andd ducasse
[16:53] <thauan> oi
[16:54] <akik> Admin___: "Dom0 is the initial domain started by the Xen hypervisor on boot. Dom0 is an abbrevation of "Domain 0" (sometimes written as "domain zero" or the "host domain"). Dom0 is a privileged domain that starts first and manages the DomU unprivileged domains."
[16:54] <ducasse> ubuntu857: will cryptsetup alone install?
[16:54] <ubuntu857> lets see.
[16:54] <BluesKaj> pr3c0g:  if you check alsamixer again you should see a seto f volume ctrls that you can navigate with the arrow keys. the updown arrow kwys are used for turning the volumes up or down and certain options on or off , any volumes that have MM in the box are muted and the automute is enabled by default , best to disable it with the doen arrow.
[16:54] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: I connected it back, and its still working ! :(
[16:55] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Weird.
[16:55] <na_> What partitions Ubuntu create by automatic?
[16:55] <terminal_crawler> I looked at the pastebins, they are identical.
[16:55] <akik> Admin___: "The Xen hypervisor is not usable without Dom0. This is essentially the "host" operating system (or a "service console", if you prefer). As a result, Dom0 runs the Xen management toolstack, and has special privileges, like being able to access the hardware directly."
[16:55] <ubuntu857> ducasse: yes I think it did install
[16:55] <BluesKaj> pr3c0g:  to unmute use the M key
[16:56] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I noticed that no kernel drivers are being loaded for the NVIDIA controller.
[16:56] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: That might be related.
[16:56] <ducasse> ubuntu857: now try ecryptfs-utils by itself
[16:56] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: See if this helps you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/393848/external-monitor-display-on-thinkpad-w520-with-12-04
[16:56] <na_> HEY&
[16:56] <ZeekHuge> I intentionally didi that setting so as to avoid over heating.
[16:56] <ubuntu857> ducasse: unable to locate package
[16:56] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: ^
[16:56] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Ah okay.
[16:57] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: That may or may not be causing the monitor problem though, if the Intel chip can't handle it.
[16:57] <na_> faggots
[16:57] <Admin___> akik, does that mean I always have to boot dom0 before booting the other VM's?
[16:57] <ducasse> ubuntu857: there must be something wrong with your mirror, try another one and run apt update again before you try to install
[16:58] <ducasse> na_: language!
[16:58] <ubuntu857> ducasse: do i change a mirror in the system settings?
[16:58] <akik> Admin___: yes. please read the docs :)
[16:58] <ducasse> ubuntu857: 'software & updates', i think
[17:00] <ubuntu857> ducasse: tried to change to a different mirror, same result
[17:00] <ubuntu857> ducasse : plus ran apt update before trying to install
[17:00] <ubuntu857> ducasse : and after changing the mirror
[17:01] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Must fly. Best of luck and hopefully chat to you tomorrow.
[17:01] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: okay . Thank you :) sure
[17:01] <ducasse> ubuntu857: make sure you type ecryptfs-utils again, don't use the history.
[17:02] <JasonSome> hi!!
[17:03] <JasonSome> a question: why do I have a /etc/cron.d/jffnms file even though I have never installed jffnms (from what I remember at least!)? Is it installed by default on Ubuntu 16.04?
[17:03] <ubuntu857> ducasse: I did what you said, but it's the same result.
[17:03] <ubuntu857> ducasse: even when I manually retyped it again.
[17:03] <ubuntu857> ok wait
[17:03] <ubuntu857> damn
[17:03] <ubuntu857> I found a typo
[17:04] <Bashing-om> !info jffnms
[17:04] <ubuntu857> oh god
[17:04] <ducasse> ubuntu857: ah. :)
[17:04] <ubuntu857> I typed "encrypt-fs" instead of "ecrypt-fs". What a mistake just waiting to happen. what is "ecrypt" anwyays?!
[17:05] <JasonSome> can I view whether it was installed some time and removed another time?
[17:05] <NoobFan> Hi,, is is it possible to resize the disk in ubuntu
[17:05] <ducasse> ubuntu857: it's just a name. there is also something called encfs.
[17:06] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Basically, I tried to encrypt my entire HDD at installation, BUT I'm installing on external HDD, so the option of erasing everything and installing with the default settings was probably not good since it would install on the main HDD and not on the external HDD by default
[17:06] <Bashing-om> JasonSome: The log file /var/log/dpkg may give some hints .
[17:06] <ducasse> ubuntu857: you could have used manual partitioning.
[17:07] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Then I picked "encrypt my home folder" at the ubuntu setup. And when I did that the setup took 10x longer than usual, and afterwards said it failed to install
[17:07] <JasonSome> Bashing-om: That file is soooo big. How can I search it for a string without opening it?
[17:07] <\9> NoobFan: you'll need to use a live session for that. you can't resize the partition currently being used
[17:07] <JasonSome> (I mean without opening it in gedit)
[17:07] <ubuntu857> ducasse: I can use manual parittioning for installing plain-text ubuntu, but how can I force it to encrypt everything on the extternal HDD?
[17:08] <ubuntu857> ducasse: I'm using manual partioning already in order to install it on the HDD
[17:08] <ubuntu857> on the external HDD
[17:08] <ducasse> ubuntu857: i know you can use the server installer, not that familiar with the desktop installer. but now you can just run ecryptfs-migrate-home
[17:09] <ducasse> ubuntu857: but read the man page first!
[17:09] <OerHeks> " to encrypt everything " will be an option during install ubuntu857
[17:09] <ubuntu857> OerHeks: No it wasn't an option when I did the manual partioning..
[17:09] <ducasse> OerHeks: yes, but on an alternative drive?
[17:09] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Is it problematic that I used "apt-get full-upgrade" ? did viruses get inserted this way?
[17:09] <ducasse> ubuntu857: no.
[17:10] <ubuntu857> ducasse : how can viruses can get hold of ubuntu then - from where?
[17:10] <ubuntu857> ducasse: When I installed ubuntu it asked if I allow to install third party software to enable wireless and MP3 and etc. I refused since I thought maybe there is virus in one of these third parties..
[17:11] <Bashing-om> JasonSome: When one does ' apt-cache depends jffnms ' and apt-cache rdepends jffnms ' one sees that a likely candidate is php and.or mysql . Does that help ?
[17:11] <OerHeks> installing on an ext hdd .. be carefull to select the ext hdd for grub bootloader
[17:12] <ducasse> ubuntu857: that's not a problem with packages from the repos.
[17:12] <OerHeks> when something foes other than planned, it must be a ubuntu-virus
[17:12] <ubuntu857> ducasse: By packages, do you mean "third party software" such as wireless drivers and MP3 codecs?
[17:13] <Matumaros> Hi, I need some help installing the newest Ubuntu, I have multiple issues
[17:13] <ducasse> ubuntu857: even those, yes. as long as they are in the ubuntu repos they should be clean.
[17:13] <JasonSome> ubuntu-virus? such things exist???
[17:14] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Thanks for all your help, but I have a nagging feeling it won't be the last time I will need help in this evening.
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> a virus? exciting! source?
[17:14] <Bashing-om> !virus | JasonSome
[17:14] <ducasse> ubuntu857: you are welcome, but i'll be logging off soon :)
[17:14] <OerHeks> JasonSome, sure, addictive users got it.
[17:16] <oaulakh> why my microphone not working on ubuntu it's working just fine on windows but not on ubuntu
[17:16] <chicken> where can I find the online install? i can only use CD-ROM.
[17:17] <OerHeks> chicken, the mini iso fits on cd, it is a netinstaller ( wired network required)
[17:17] <OerHeks> !mini
[17:18] <chicken> OerHeks: hmm so no WIFI?
[17:18] <chicken> so I'm better off getting DVDs and do that right?
[17:18] <OerHeks> chicken, indeed, as there is no 'live environment' to install so
[17:18] <chicken> ok
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> chicken  wifi needs to be configured, cable does not (and it is faster and more stable)
[17:19] <nedstark> oaulakh, try using pulse audio volume control, pavucontrol, to change the mic source
[17:19] <OerHeks> chicken, or USB stick?
[17:19] <chicken> i do have a USB stick yeah
[17:19] <esiodos> hola buenas tardes
[17:19] <esiodos> que tal
[17:19] <esiodos> a todos
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:19] <Bashing-om> chicken: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/xenial/ . Not for the faint at heart to do a minimal install . And correct. all that you have is a wired connection .
[17:21] <Matumaros> I have a 1TB HDD and a 16GB SSD, can I install it so 38 MB are used for efi (/dev/sdb1), the rest of the 16 GB for root on /dev/sdb2 (ext4) and on the HDD 8522 MB for swap and the rest for /home?
[17:21] <codfection> Anonymous
[17:22] <codfection> Matumaros, why dont u select auto select to let ubuntu select for ya.
[17:22] <oaulakh> nedstark, pavucontrol not exist
[17:22] <Matumaros> codefection: because it totally ignores the SSD
[17:22] <EriC^^_> Matumaros: yes, you can
[17:22] <Matumaros> *codfection, sorry for mispelling
[17:22] <EriC^^_> Matumaros: choose Something else in the installer, and manually partition
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> codfection  don't say 'u' and 'ya', use proper English
[17:23] <Matumaros> EriC^^_ thanks
[17:23] <OerHeks> Matumaros, is this a 1Tb hdd/16gb ssd duplo drive? where the 16gb supposed to be a cache?
[17:23] <codfection> MonkeyDust, is that a rule?
[17:23] <hid|ninja> MonkeyDust: shakespear used u
[17:23] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: The system had Windows originally (still) and the SSD is a raid device to assist in "fast startup " of Windows ?
[17:23] <Matumaros> OerHeks: I don't remember what they were supposed to do, I just thought it's a good idea to install the system on it
[17:24] <codfection> Perhaps focusing on solutions rather than few mis spells would fulfill purpose of this support irc.
[17:25] <nedstark> oaulakh, you could install it and see if it works, i've usually had better luck with pavucontrol than other apps
[17:26] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: The system had Windows7, then I upgraded it to 8, then installed Debian and now tried several times to install Ubuntu
[17:26] <Matumaros> My computer is a Acer Aspire G3620
[17:27] <codfection> Matumaros, was it utilizing the 16 gb ssd on debian?
[17:28] <Matumaros> codfection: I don't think so, Debian offered an advanced option that the Ubuntu install doesn't
[17:29] <codfection> did you see an option of 16 gb ssd there?
[17:29] <Matumaros> like a "set it up with /home, /tmp, /usr or something like that
[17:30] <oaulakh> nedstark, package not found
[17:30] <Matumaros> codfection: I didn't format it on my own, I let the installer do it. Originally I thought I had two HDD's of the same size which were 1 TB in total
[17:30] <codfection> so do the same for ubuntu
[17:30] <Matumaros> Can I put all the partitions on Primary?
[17:30] <codfection> just out of curiosity, why u wanna switch from debian to ubuntu?
[17:30] <codfection> yup. you can
[17:31] <Matumaros> codfection: It didn't work too well on the computer and I want to install newer software (which the Debian community doesn't seem to understand)
[17:31] <codfection> well, ubuntu is based on debiam
[17:31] <codfection> debian*
[17:32] <codfection> so versions are pretty much similar/same
[17:32] <codfection> !latest
[17:32] <nedstark> oaulakh, there's a link to it on this page, you should be able to install it from software center https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/pavucontrol/
[17:32] <Matumaros> codfection: yeah I know, as far as I understand (maybe I'm wrong) is that there are more frequent releases of Ubuntu and the "noob" amount is bigger, so ideal for me :P
[17:33] <codfection> !reading
[17:33] <Matumaros> Back to the formatting: Both root (/) and home (/home) need to be ext4, right?
[17:34] <codfection> !google
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Matumaros:  yes
[17:34] <codfection> !version
[17:34] <Matumaros> Hey BluesKaj, didn't you help me last time?
[17:34] <ducasse> Matumaros: not at all, you can use any supported fs.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Matumaros:  well, I tried ;-)
[17:35] <Guy1524> guys, the game Rust, which is a unity game, runs faster on my windows installation.  And this happens with many games.  What things are causing this games to run faster on windows.  I have an nvidia GTX 960 with proprietary drivers, and from what i have heard they are really up to par w/ the windows ones.  And if it is OpenGL, why is openGL slower than directX?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> ducasse:  let's not go there
[17:35] <ducasse> BluesKaj: :)
[17:35] <Guy1524> *Direct3D
[17:35] <codfection> Guy1524, which laptop is that
[17:36] <Matumaros> Device for boot loader installation should be the efi one, right?
[17:36] <Matumaros> or /dev/sdb (which is the SSD)?
[17:36] <ducasse> Matumaros: efi system partition on an uefi system.
[17:37] <Guy1524> codfection: its a desktop with an evga gtx 960
[17:38] <codfection> I know very less users of linux on desktop
[17:38] <codfection> cant help you there, sorry.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> less =few
[17:38] <codfection> BluesKaj, english is not my native language. but yea thanks for correcting me
[17:39] <Guy1524> im not asking for help specifically with my machine, I just would like to know why game generally always seem to perform better on windows
[17:39] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: EriC^^_ is our guru of booting . I will defer to his advise in this situation . However, what returns from the live installer "sudo wipefs /dev/sda". Note that you should not just trust me that that command is safe (even though it is), you should run "man wipefs" and confirm for yourself that the command will just list all visible filesystems (and in this case, RAID metadata) .
[17:39] <BluesKaj> cod too many users confuse less and few , i have fewer dollars but less money
[17:39] <codfection> Guy1524, my guess would be that linux/gnu is not a mainstream OS for gamers.
[17:39] <BluesKaj> codfection: ^
[17:40] <codfection> BluesKaj, thanks. will remember:)
[17:40] <tgm4883> Guy1524: sounds like the game isn't optimized for linux
[17:41] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: I don't understand what you mean, sorry :(
[17:41] <codfection> Matumaros, thats why I love linux. lots of technical stuff opens up
[17:42] <jkhl> Is it possible to save the state of processes to reload on reboot in Ubuntu/Mint? I'm about to try this way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30931/how-do-i-make-a-program-auto-start-every-time-i-log-in , just wondering if anyone had success with another way.
[17:42] <ducasse> Matumaros: the bootloader goes on the efi partition if the system boots in uefi mode.
[17:42] <codfection> !simple
[17:42] <codfection> !simplicity
[17:43] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: In installing ubuntu .. IF the SSD has raid meta data on it as an aid to Windows .. the desktop installer does not have the tools available to cope with raid .
[17:43] <codfection> !life
[17:43] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'm not sure it does, it has uefi, but I might have disabled that when installing debian, the issue is that I don't get back into that BIOS menu anymore :(
[17:43] <tgm4883> codfection: can you not play with the bot in the channel
[17:44] <codfection> tgm4883, how to find the list of !?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> codfection:  don't clutter the chat bot infor that isn't required by anyone
[17:44] <tgm4883> codfection: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[17:44] <jkhl> I mean it's possible but is there a working feature for that?
[17:44] <codfection> BluesKaj, sorry I am pretty new to this irc stuff
[17:44] <codfection> thanks
[17:44] <ducasse> Matumaros: in that case it most likely is, and you can set a variable to access the menu on the next boot from ubuntu.
[17:45] <Matumaros> After installing Ubuntu for the last times I always got the message "Please insert bootable device" or something like that
[17:46] <Matumaros> usually I got into BIOS by pressing F2, but that doesn't work
[17:46] <Matumaros> now I'm entering by pressing del, but that menu looks very different than the other one
[17:46] <Matumaros> Installation is done, I'm restarting now
[17:47] <bernardo> how can I make ubuntu say stuff
[17:48] <Matumaros> Alright, now I'm getting the message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[17:48] <Matumaros> I tried the help on this website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:49] <Velveeta_Chef> UEFI secure boot still on?
[17:49] <Matumaros> I created a bootable CD (because I don't have a USB stick that I could use right now and I have masses of CD's) but it's not booting from that
[17:49] <Tin_man> bernardo, try this link
[17:49] <Tin_man> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/espeak-gui/
[17:49] <Matumaros> Velveeta_Chef: highly unlikely, I disabled secure boot with Debian
[17:49] <Matumaros> How can I get back into the BIOS menu?
[17:50] <Velveeta_Chef> what platform?
[17:50] <ioria> bernardo, orca
[17:50] <Velveeta_Chef> for Dell it's usually F2
[17:50] <Matumaros> Velveeta_Chef: it's a Acer Aspire G3620
[17:50] <Matumaros> it is F2 for as well, but it doesn't work
[17:50] <Matumaros> it worked before
[17:50] <Matumaros> now only the del key works, but that is a different menu
[17:51] <tgm4883> Matumaros: it's worth noting that if F2 worked before then it should still work. Installing Ubuntu doesn't affect that
[17:52] <Matumaros> tgm4883: well, but it doesn't
[17:52] <Velveeta_Chef> When I was installing Ubuntu on my Dell laptop I noticed sometimes hitting F2 during a reboot wouldn't work, I would need to do a shut down, wait a few seconds, and then power up
[17:52] <tgm4883> Matumaros: well ok, but there's nothing Ubuntu could do to stop that from working
[17:52] <Matumaros> Velveeta_Chef: I rebooted a million times by now, over the course of a week or so
[17:52] <hexafraction> Hello all, I currently have a non-working Ubuntu installation mounted on a Ubuntu VM in /media/{user}/{uuid}, and I need to somehow find the list of PCI devices and their bus IDs on the physical machine. Is there any log file where that info may have gotten dumped?
[17:53] <ducasse> hexafraction: dmesg or kern.log, maybe?
[17:53] <hexafraction> ducasse, I'm looking now. Thanks
[17:54] <glass> anyone running ubuntu-mate 16.10?
[17:54] <ducasse> glass: #ubuntu+1
[17:54] <glass> nice thanks ducasse
[17:55] <Matumaros> Can somebody help me fix it booting rather than showing the message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"?
[17:55] <Matumaros> I don't know what to do, I'm so frustrated by this :(
[17:56] <bernardo> how can I giggle ubuntu?
[17:56] <ducasse> Matumaros: you might have turned on csm, so that you need to  install in legacy mode.
[17:56] <bernardo> is there any way to abort a child with ubuntu?
[17:56] <tgm4883> bernardo: completely off topic
[17:57] <ducasse> Matumaros: you can boot a live image and see if /sys/var/efivars exists
[17:57] <hexafraction> ducasse, took a bit of grepping but I found exactly what I need. Thank you so much.
[17:57] <bernardo> Matumaros: I suppose you could always try MD5 hashing the whole thing
[17:58] <ducasse> hexafraction: np.
[17:59] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'll try that
[17:59] <Guest58574> curious 1) what pid is kernel modules at  2) can you uses gdb to attach to a kernel module or do you need kgdb a kernel level debugger for that
[17:59] <ducasse> Matumaros: /sys/firmware/efivars, sorry.
[18:00] <ducasse> Matumaros: /sys/firmware/efi/efivars - dang :)
[18:01] <Matumaros> ducasse: are you done yet? :P
[18:01] <Matumaros> it takes a while to boot
[18:01] <ducasse> Matumaros: if you get 'no such file or directory' you are in legacy mode. if it exists and contains entries you are in uefi mode.
[18:03] <Matumaros> ducasse: as soon as it's done loading, right now I just have a black screen, but my computer is working on something
[18:04] <ducasse> Matumaros: select 'try ubuntu' instead of 'install' if you are booting the installer.
[18:04] <Matumaros> ducasse: I did, it just took a while
[18:05] <bst1> I just made an upgrade from ubuntu 15.10 to ubuntu 16.04. and i got this error secure boot violation after which i disabled secure boot, but now I get the eroor drm intel_pipe_config_compare *error*mismacth in ips_enabled. kindly help
[18:06] <Matumaros> ducasse: I am in efivars now, so it exists
[18:06] <Matumaros> there are lots of files in there
[18:07] <bst1> I just made an upgrade from ubuntu 15.10 to ubuntu 16.04. and i got this error secure boot violation after which i disabled secure boot, but now I get the eroor drm intel_pipe_config_compare *error*mismacth in ips_enabled. kindly help.
[18:08] <Matumaros> ducasse: what now?
[18:09] <ducasse> Matumaros: ok, then you are definitely in uefi mode. in that case you should just install and make sure your firmware has the right boot device set.
[18:09] <Matumaros> ducasse: I already installed, I had selected the partition for efi
[18:10] <Matumaros> to boot
[18:10] <ducasse> Matumaros: then check the boot device in the firmware.
[18:11] <Matumaros> ducasse: how do I do that?
[18:11] <ducasse> Matumaros: in the 'bios'.
[18:11] <Matumaros> ducasse: you mean the bios that I can't reach :)
[18:11] <ducasse> Matumaros: egg-sactly ;)
[18:12] <Matumaros> ducasse: so how do I do that? :P
[18:12] <Guest58574> well i tried debugging a .ko file objdump tells me its a recognizable elf binary but gdb test.ko  gives me error
[18:12] <Guest58574> cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[18:12] <ducasse> Matumaros: no clue. i would call acer (it was acer, right?) support or email them.
[18:13] <Matumaros> ducasse: I suspect that it would allow me into BIOS after that message is gone
[18:13] <ducasse> Matumaros: there is supposed to be an efi variable you can set to re-enable this, but i can't remember what it's called.
[18:15] <Guest58574> i chmod 777 of the .ko file so its not permissions i don't think why is it not recognizing the format. maybe you cann't gdb .ko's but if you insmod then can you attach to them for debugging? Gdb allowed me to set break points at init_module but when i run it all hell breaks loses
[18:16] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'll look if I can find something on google, I'm not really thrilled to call a support...
[18:16] <Guest58574> maybe the only way is thru insmod and there is no way with out a kernel debugger to attach to it . Don't know anybody
[18:18] <ducasse> Matumaros: try emailing them.
[18:20] <Matumaros> ducasse: if you scroll down to acer in this article: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/enter-bios-computer/ then you can see that F2 and del are apparently the same
[18:21] <Matumaros> it also shows that F10 might reset it, should I try that?
[18:22] <ducasse> Matumaros: i can't answer that, not familiar with acer.
[18:23] <Matumaros> ducasse: oh wait, maybe I can check for the boot device, where would that usually be?
[18:23] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: Siopervisory password apply ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322306&highlight=Acer+Aspire+boot .
[18:23] <foormea> hi. can anyone think of a way to activate virtualisation in bios/uefi with no access to a screen? is there a way to write bios/uefi settings from linux with uefi/hybrid efi mobos?
[18:24] <ducasse> foormea: does the system have ipmi?
[18:25] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: I'm not sure if that applies to my issue, because I don't just see a black screen
[18:25] <foormea> not sure what that is, let me read up on it
[18:25] <ducasse> foormea: remote bios access, among other things.
[18:25] <Matumaros> ducasse: did you mean that I should check from which device it boots first?
[18:26] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: Post #3 in the above link .. maybe ?
[18:26] <ducasse> Matumaros: yes, see which device the bios tries to boot from and set it to wherever you installed.
[18:27] <foormea> ducasse, pretty sure i don't have ipmi
[18:28] <ducasse> foormea: then you need a screen.
[18:28] <foormea> :/
[18:28] <foormea> ok ty
[18:29] <Aeacus> o/
[18:29] <Matumaros> ducasse: I just changed some things around and was able to select where to boot from when started
[18:30] <Aeacus> I'm getting an error "error while loading shared library ../libldap_r-2.4.so.2: invalid ELF header" when trying to run kodi; any ideas?
[18:30] <Matumaros> ducasse: the only thing I was able to select was "UEFI: SanDisk SSD P4 16GB"
[18:30] <dracconi> Xorg (nVidia drivers) crashes after install 331 :(
[18:30] <Aeacus> Usually I don't even get an image at all and have to ssh in
[18:30] <Matumaros> after which I get the same message again
[18:30] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: I'm not sure, I don't want to play around with it too much if there is an easier solution
[18:31] <ducasse> Matumaros: then the efi partition needs to be on that disk.
[18:31] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: As you are booting to the EFI partition you now have a different issue .
[18:32] <ducasse> Matumaros: you can use efibootmgr to point the firmware to wherever the efi partition and bootloader is.
[18:32] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: what do you mean?
[18:33] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: Prior .. could not boot at all .. now you at least get to the point of looking for the boot code .
[18:33] <TheSinding> Hi guys, I have a couple of questions, I have just now installed ubuntu server with encrypted lvm, how do I add the rest of my drives to this encrypted lvm, so the become encrypted aswell
[18:33] <TheSinding> I know its something to do with VG and PV
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> TheSinding  there's also #ubuntu-server
[18:33] <ducasse> TheSinding: first encrypt them, then setup lvm on top of that.
[18:33] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: I don't see how I'm any further, I just enabled Boot Menu and disabled Quiet Boot, to see what happens
[18:34] <Gallomimia> TheSinding: to encrypt a drive, first you must erase it.
[18:34] <dracconi> guys, anyone have solution to blank screen after installing nvidia-331 on hybrid card (14.04)?
[18:34] <Gallomimia> so, copy the data somewhere else, or set up an encrypted drive and copy it to there, then scrub the old drive
[18:34] <Matumaros> ducasse: how do I do that?
[18:34] <TheSinding> But do i have to enter the passpharse for each drive, when i want to open it? or is it gonna be opened with the main drive then ?
[18:35] <foormea> isn't it safe to set up lvm and just encrypt a /home partition ?
[18:35] <ducasse> Matumaros: the installer should do it for you automatically, if it gets it wrong you need to do it manually. i would try to reinstall now that it boots properly.
[18:36] <Matumaros> BTW, Boot Priority Order is [Remavable Device], [CD&DVD], [Hard Disk: UEFI: SanD...] and [LAN], I also tried to switch them around
[18:36] <ducasse> Matumaros: i don't have time to help you with efibootmgr, logging off soon, so you would need to read the documentation.
[18:36] <Matumaros> ducasse: nothing has changed, it still is exactly the same as before
[18:37] <ducasse> Matumaros: i thought you said you set it to ssd?
[18:37] <Matumaros> ducasse, Bashing-om: btw, I don't mean to be rude, I'm just very frustrated :/
[18:37] <ducasse> Matumaros: np.
[18:37] <Matumaros> ducasse: no, that was the option of what I could select to boot
[18:39] <Matumaros> ducasse: so what you are saying that I should get efibootmgr on a CD? and then boot that and install it?
[18:39] <ducasse> Matumaros: ok. in that case read this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#efibootmgr - you might want to look at the rest of the page also.
[18:39] <ducasse> Matumaros: efibootmgr comes with ubuntu.
[18:39] <Matumaros> ducasse: oh, phew :)
[18:40] <Matumaros> thanks, I will read it
[18:40] <Matumaros> thanks so much for your help
[18:40] <ducasse> Matumaros: if you can pastebin the output of 'sudo efibootmgr -v' i can take a quick look.
[18:41] <Matumaros> ducasse: that is the next issue...I don't have working internet, I have a USB WiFi adapter which doesn't work out of the box
[18:41] <Fiki> Can somebody recommend some good PDF software and scanning software, it's the area I feel I really can't find comparable software to say windows :P
[18:41] <Matumaros> ducasse: also, presumably I should do these things in the live version?
[18:42] <ducasse> Matumaros: live version, yes. basically what you want to do is create an efi entry that points to where grub is installed.
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Fiki  easyscan and xsane are popular
[18:43] <Matumaros> ducasse: you really have faith in me to do that alone? :P
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Fiki  make that 'simple scan', not easyscan
[18:44] <ducasse> Matumaros: if you read the documentation _carefully_ you should be fine :) hang on, i'll give you an example.
[18:44] <Matumaros> ducasse: that is exactly the issue, my attention span when reading is very small :P
[18:47] <ducasse> Matumaros: "efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 1 -l '\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi'" - where /dev/sda is the disk where the efi partition is, -p 1 means it is the first partition.
[18:47] <ducasse> Matumaros: that's really all there is to it.
[18:48] <Fiki> MonkeyDust, nvm just found VueScan exists for linux!
[18:48] <Matumaros> ducasse: oh :) how does it count the partitions?
[18:48] <ducasse> Matumaros: the way linux does. /dev/sda3 would be '-d /dev/sda -p 3'
[18:49] <dracconi> guys, anyone have solution to blank screen after installing nvidia-331 on hybrid card (14.04)? I need to make this working...
[18:49] <Matumaros> I see, so for me it would probably be  "efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 1 -l '\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi'"
[18:49] <Matumaros> @ducasse
[18:50] <ducasse> Matumaros: i'd guess so, yes. you can check with lsblk.
[18:52] <Bashing-om> dracconi: How do you know that the 331 version is correct for your card(s) ?
[18:52] <dracconi> Bashing-om: I read that. I have nVidia GF 645M + Intel HD
[18:54] <dracconi> Bashing-om: but ubuntu use (when i install 331) 340
[18:54] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Pastebin ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ' and I will match the driver for the reported hardware .
[18:54] <Matumaros> ducasse: that outputs "BootCurrent; 0004", "Timeout: 2seconds", "BootOrder: 0005, 0004, 0003, 0001, 0000, 0002", "Boot0000 Windows Boot Manager", "Boot0001* debian", "Boot0002 ubuntu", "Boot0003* UEFI: SanDisk SSD P4 16GB", "Boot0004* UEFI: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH82N" and "Boot0005* Linux"
[18:55] <dracconi> Bashing-om: http://hastebin.com/alijeneqif.css
[18:57] <ducasse> Matumaros: 'sudo efibootmgr -n 0002'
[18:57] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Nope .. Nvidia recommends the 361 version : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us . So next is what have you done that must be undone in order to install the driver ?
[18:57] <Matumaros> ducasse: I shut down again :/
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> Fiki  i was going to advise vuescan too, but forgot the name
[18:57] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'm restarting live mode now
[18:57] <dracconi> Bashing-om: you think it will work?
[18:58] <ducasse> Matumaros: also, 'sudo efibootmgr -a 0002'. run those two commands, reboot, and you should be in ubuntu.
[18:58] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'm not religious, but I pray :D
[18:59] <Bashing-om> Well .., nothing like matching the proper driver to the hardware .. be aware that 14.04 does not have that driver in the repo . If you choose to go this route . will require our trusted PPA for the 361 version driver .
[18:59] <Matumaros> ducasse: it doesn't matter that I restarted, right?
[19:00] <Chris55> I can't connect to the Internet with a fresh install of 16.04 desktop.  Can anyone help me?
[19:00] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Sorry ^^ .
[19:01] <ducasse> Matumaros: no, just run both commands when the system is back up.
[19:02] <ducasse> Matumaros: on my system i will get a menu of which os to boot (except i only have ubuntu :) if i press f8 while booting, yours should have something similar as it's part of the uefi specs.
[19:02] <Bashing-om> dracconi: For your added consideration; what returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[19:03] <dracconi> Bashing-om: i will say sth - 304 not working ;p
[19:04] <dracconi> Bashing-om: nvidia-304
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-340-updates
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-355
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-304-updates
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-340
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-358
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-352
[19:04] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Uh Huh .. I can believe that .. old driver .. new hardware .
[19:04] <Matumaros> ducasse: ok, on the second command it says "You must specify a boot entry to activate (see the -b option"
[19:05] <ducasse> Matumaros: '-b 0002 -a'
[19:05] <ioria> !info nvidia-358
[19:05] <Bashing-om> dracconi: So, back to : what have you done that we must  now undone to install a current driver ?
[19:06] <Matumaros> ducasse: ok, I'm restarting
[19:06] <dracconi> Bashing-om: actually i tried to install some drivers, but actually... Every driver worked till the reboot.
[19:06] <Matumaros> ducasse: didn't work :(
[19:06] <dracconi> Bashing-om: here you have full http://hastebin.com/itogahemis.hs
[19:07] <ducasse> Matumaros: what happens when you reboot?
[19:07] <Matumaros> ducasse: the exact same thing as before
[19:07] <Matumaros> ducasse: "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[19:07] <ioria> dracconi, can you paste apt-cache policy nvidia-358 ?
[19:08] <dracconi> ioria: http://hastebin.com/yahepoxaro.sm
[19:08] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Ubderstandable .. as what is loaded will be what is .. until the reboot .// OK to get just a glimmer of the situation . what returns in a pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[19:08] <mib_mib> hi all - i have some servers rented in a datacenter running ubuntu 14.04 and running a mysql server - when i run cat  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor -> powersave ; is this recommended to run powersave at all if i dont pay for power? will it extend any life of the cpu or otherwise?
[19:09] <dracconi> Bashing-om: http://hastebin.com/uyijakotog.vhdl
[19:09] <mib_mib> or should i switch this to performance mode?
[19:09] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Look'n at th last .. and in the list of available drivers is cutting edge drivers from "some" PPA .. we will need to know that source .
[19:09] <ducasse> Matumaros: ok, sorry. i'm not really sure what to suggest then, as i've really got to go. i would guess there is something wrong either in the bios setup or in how ubuntu is installed.
[19:10] <Matumaros> ducasse: thanks anyway :)
[19:10] <ducasse> Matumaros: probably the latter.
[19:10] <dracconi> Bashing-om: i think its from graphic-drivers ppa
[19:10] <Matumaros> ducasse: I will try to reinstall as it is recommended
[19:10] <ducasse> Matumaros: sorry i couldn't get it working, but things are getting kind of busy here :)
[19:10] <dracconi> Bashing-om: installed by nvidia-current
[19:11] <Matumaros> ducasse: don't worry, I appreciate that you took so much time for me :)
[19:11] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Presently you do have a driver conflict . OK sources .. what returns ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[19:12] <ducasse> Matumaros: you're welcome :) you might want to try installing from the server image, i feel it gives better control, and you get a log on virtual console number 4.
[19:12] <dracconi> Bashing-om: long list... http://hastebin.com/ojuvewaruq.coffee
[19:12] <Bashing-om> dracconi: K .. be back shortly .. reading .
[19:16] <ioria> dracconi, have you tried the drivers suggested by ubuntu-drivers list before adding ppa ?
[19:16] <dracconi> ioria: to be honest, i didnt know that - i'm new in linux
[19:17] <alanclark5> hi channel
[19:17] <ioria> dracconi, well, before adding a ppa , you first try them (in dash you type Additional drivers)
[19:18] <dracconi> ioria: so you suggest to install 361?
[19:19] <OerHeks> dracconi, so you actually run elementary-os :-D
[19:19] <Chris55> I need help with Internet connection.  Fresh install of 16.04 desktop does not work.  I can ping the network card but not the router or <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:19] <ioria> dracconi, your list has been altered by the ppa
[19:19] <dracconi> OerHeks: nope, this is just desktop
[19:19] <dracconi> ioria: simplier please?
[19:20] <ioria> dracconi, if you install 352, for example, you'll get it form ppa , not from the ubuntu repo
[19:20] <ioria> *from
[19:20] <dracconi> ioria: ok...
[19:21] <des_consolado> Hey I just installed python-pip and pip -V shows it's version 1.5.6 from python 2.7 :( is pip for python 3 not on the repositories?
[19:21] <Bashing-om> dracconi: PK. now .. with that many PPAs .. there is a 40 GPG limit .. how many keys do you have ' ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d | wc -l ' . Then we return to cleanup .
[19:22] <dracconi> Bashing-om: 32
[19:23] <des_consolado> oh it's python3-pip, got it
[19:24] <Bashing-om> dracconi: K, a bit of room there . Now what are you running .. as elemetary is not supported here .. there are difference we can not adjust to . show ' lsb_release -a ' .
[19:24] <dracconi> Bashing-om: it shows eOS, but its only the desktop :(
[19:25] <dracconi> Bashing-om: is this possible to make eOS ubuntu, which is my os?
[19:25] <Bashing-om> ioria: IRT dracconi and elemetary; what say you ? Should we proceed in this ?
[19:26] <ioria> Bashing-om, you're on top of me
[19:29] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Well ,, it is ubuntu repo, so I guess we can proceed . Let's try ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ; sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt install nvidia-361 nvidia-prime ; sudo shutdown -r now ' . See what results when you come back up .
[19:30] <dracconi> Bashing-om: i want to ask one think before i proceed - is deleting xorg.conf harmless
[19:31] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Required .. and it may be corrupt .. and will not match the new driver .. A new file "should" be created upon the driver install .
[19:31] <ioria> dracconi, you can back up it instead of delete  mv it
[19:31] <dracconi> ioria: sooo...
[19:31] <dracconi> Bashing-om: what i have to do when it crash?
[19:32] <ioria> dracconi, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back
[19:32] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Positive think'n .. not going to crash .. if it does .. we boot to terminal ( no GUI ) and find out why .
[19:33] <ioria> dracconi, if you set in there some custom configs... if not, no worries
[19:33] <dracconi> Bashing-om: and another question - will it be solved in 30 mins?
[19:34] <dracconi> Bashing-om: i need to do these cmds in tty?
[19:34] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Best ask the driver Gods that one .. who knows til we try and see what results " and then !
[19:34] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to run a local instance of MySQL and PHPMyAdmin, but I get this error when I do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin`: " mysql: [Warning] mysql: Empty value for 'port' specified. Will throw an error in future versions ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) ."  Any tips?
[19:34] <BlueProtoman> On Ubuntu 16.04, that is
[19:34] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Yes .. in terminal ( ctl+alt+F1 ) will suffice for this exercise .
[19:40] <dracconi> Bashing-om: and another question how to remove eOS desktop?
[19:40] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, maybe mysql has died? sudo service mysqld start
[19:40] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[19:41] <Bashing-om> dracconi: I pass on removing a DE .. Others will have to advise .
[19:41] <OerHeks> but with that many ppa's .. good luck mister
[19:41] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: `Failed to start mysqld.service: Unit mysqld.service not found.`
[19:41] <dracconi> Bashing-om: what?
[19:41] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: I didn't use any PPAs to install this (or are you talking to someone else)
[19:42] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, that was for dracconi
[19:42] <BlueProtoman> Derp, sorry
[19:42] <Bashing-om> dracconi: I can not advise on a good reliable means to remove a Desktop Environmnet (Eos) .
[19:42] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, no clue , you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[19:43] <dracconi> Bashing-om: so i need to reinstall
[19:43] <dracconi> ?
[19:44] <ioria> dracconi, you installed elementary from ppa ? so use ppa-purge to remove it
[19:44] <dracconi> ioria: umm it not working (nothing is removed)
[19:45] <dracconi> ioria: but the eOS de is avaible lol
[19:45] <Bashing-om> dracconi: "need" no .. If this is ubuntu .. it is always fixable . But removing a DE .. well .. I am not comfortable advising one how to .
[19:45] <OerHeks> adding a PPA is no problem, removing one from many can give vary results
[19:45] <dracconi> Bashing-om: and one more question - when i have ubuntu on two partitions ext4 (1 mounted on / and 1 on /home) how can i reinstall ubuntu harmless?
[19:48] <ioria> dracconi,  However you can use Synaptic to remove it
[19:48] <Dandels> So I'm not exactly very experienced with the peculiarities of ubuntu, but see no reason why removing a desktop environment would make anything break. Even removing your display manager should simply just make you boot to a tty
[19:48] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to run a local instance of MySQL and PHPMyAdmin on Ubuntu 16.04, but when I go to `localhost/phpmyadmin` I get an HTTP 500.  Plain old `localhost` is the default apache2 page for Ubuntu, as expected.  Any tips?
[19:49] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Well ,, if multi DE's were not a factor, one just chooses NOT to format /home in the re-install .. now I just do not think I would . But your system, your effort . Me I would do a clean fresh install ; and install once more the softwares I do want .
[19:51] <Mina_> No run no one OS. Help please!
[19:51] <Bashing-om> !help | Mina_
[19:52] <Dandels> Mina_, hmm? That's not a complete question.
[19:52] <Mina_> mbr gpt crashed?
[19:54] <monty_hall> I'd like to launch a script when I unlock my workstation
[19:54] <monty_hall> how to do this?
[19:55] <dracconi> monty_hall: Startup applications
[19:56] <dracconi> Bashing-om: ok, running this command
[19:56] <monty_hall> so if I've logged in, locked it, walked away and then unlocked it it will launch startup everytime?  I thought startup application only happened on login.
[19:56] <monty_hall> it's crucial it's unlock.
[19:56] <monty_hall> though I'll take startup for the time being.
[19:56] <monty_hall> think my coworker is logging into my workstation when I walk away
[19:57] <monty_hall> going to snap a photo w/ webcam when workstation is unlocked.
[19:57] <monty_hall> sure I can change the password but I want to nail this b*tch
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> monty_hall  it's dbus related ... http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28181/run-script-on-screen-lock-unlock
[19:58] <Mina_> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda  This command no will crash my date?
[19:58] <Mina_> data
[19:59] <monty_hall> thanks
[20:03] <Bashing-om> Mina_: That ^ depends .. on the type of partitioning .. and IF /root is on that 1st hard drive .
[20:03] <Mina_> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[20:04] <Mina_> I use gpt
[20:04] <k1l_> Mina_: i dont understand what your issue is and what you are trying to do on what setup
[20:04] <Bashing-om> Mina_: Target partiton containing /root not mounted ?
[20:05] <EriC^^> Mina_: what's your issue?
[20:05] <Dandels> He said something about gpt, mbr and no os booting
[20:05] <Dandels> Just guessing he has a broken dual boot
[20:06] <Mina_> No one OS no run
[20:06] <EriC^^> Mina_: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:06] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[20:06] <k1l_> Mina_: there is #ubuntu-ru if you want to use your native language
[20:07] <Mina_> here need guru
[20:07] <k1l_> !details | Mina_
[20:07] <Mina_> link?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Mina_: EriC^^ is that guru . atend well to his advise .
[20:08] <alanclark5> i had a network issue, did anybody see my curl question?
[20:08] <rahtgaz> Hello all. I used the live version of Ubuntu 16.04 to test it out and noticed that the python versions shipping with it were 2.7.11+ and 3.5.1+. What dopes the plus sign mean?
[20:09] <Mina_>  I installed Windows - no run Installed Ubuntu - no run
[20:09] <Bashing-om> alanclark5: Nope, do not see it in " lastlog " .
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> Mina_  if windows won't run, and ubuntu won't run, it may be hardware related
[20:10] <Mina_> just gpt/mbr
[20:10] <EriC^^> Mina_: can you boot a live usb of ubuntu on it?
[20:10] <Mina_> dd default mbr image use?
[20:11] <Mina_> im here
[20:11] <Mina_> i see data
[20:11] <Mina_> I see all partitions all work
[20:11] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com
[20:11] <alanclark5> oh, thanks. here it goes again. i know what curl does but how does it work when the command is called to fetch a website over http, and what it does on the server side (assuming is an ubuntu server).
[20:11] <bprompt> EriC^^:     since she's crossposting at another channel, Mina_  said, she's got a GPT 1tb hdd in a BIOS firmware machine, something went south with it, she has windows( dunno what version ) and ubuntu in it, neither OS work, already explained to her to do a full reinstall and make the hdd MBR table instead, and before wiping, to save any files she needed
[20:11] <EriC^^> in a terminal
[20:11] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:11] <Mina_> This is nc from the netcat-openbsd package. An alternative nc is available in the netcat-traditional package. usage: nc [-46bCDdhjklnrStUuvZz] [-I length] [-i interval] [-O length] 	  [-P proxy_username] [-p source_port] [-q seconds] [-s source] 	  [-T toskeyword] [-V rtable] [-w timeout] [-X proxy_protocol] 	  [-x proxy_address[:port]] [destination] [port]
[20:11] <Dandels> I suppose the same applies for ubuntu?: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dual_boot_with_Windows#Windows_UEFI_vs_BIOS_limitations
[20:12] <Mina_> 16.04 live
[20:12] <SchrodingersScat> alanclark5: what do you mean 'how does it work'?  It sends the request and the server responds, curl displays things based on the flags you give it
[20:12] <lerner> im going to test the newest kernel (4.7 rc1) to check if a bug keeps bugging, my architecture is 64 bits, im aiming for the generic, but here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc1-yakkety/ there are 2 amd64.deb generics... do I need them both? one is 1MB the other 56MB
[20:13] <EriC^^> Mina_: sorry, there was a typo
[20:14] <EriC^^> Mina_: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:14] <k1l_> lerner: you need headers and image
[20:14] <Mina_> http://termbin.com/e7nb
[20:15] <EriC^^> Mina_: type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[20:16] <EriC^^> does it show efivars?
[20:16] <Mina_> ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory
[20:16] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, so the live usb is booted in legacy mode
[20:17] <EriC^^> Mina_: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[20:17] <EriC^^> then ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:17] <Mina_> UEFI i think
[20:17] <Mina_> ok
[20:17] <monty_hall> how do I disable apache service at startup
[20:17] <EriC^^> Mina_: nope, it's in legacy mode right now (the live usb)
[20:18] <EriC^^> monty_hall: which ubuntu?
[20:18] <Mina_> ok
[20:18] <monty_hall> 14.04
[20:18] <EriC^^> monty_hall: update-rc.d -f disable apache2
[20:18] <EriC^^> monty_hall: * update-rc.d -f apache2 disable
[20:19] <Mina_> Eric^^
[20:20] <EriC^^> Mina_: ?
[20:20] <Mina_> So?
[20:20] <Mina_> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[20:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:21] <EriC^^> then ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:21] <Mina_> http://termbin.com/th4p
[20:22] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, looks like windows was installed in uefi mode, ubuntu was installed in legacy mode
[20:22] <lerner> .......
[20:22] <monty_hall> can't seem to mount ext fat drive in ubuntu 14
[20:23] <monty_hall> is there some package that I need to install
[20:23] <monty_hall> this is for a thumb drive
[20:23] <monty_hall> extfs
[20:23] <Mina_> And?
[20:23] <EriC^^> Mina_: enable uefi in the bios, disable csm legacy support, mess around with any ahci settings, you should be able to get windows to boot
[20:24] <lerner> i installed the new kernel 4.7 as instructed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds and errors where encountered: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/nvidia/gm204/gr/gpccs_inst.bin for module nouveau , how bad is that? I dont use nvidia drivers, but the fallback linux graphica card drivers...
[20:24] <EriC^^> Mina_: then boot the ubuntu live usb in uefi mode (try ls /sys/firmware/efi to make sure it's booted in uefi mode) then install it
[20:24] <Mina_> There UEFI + Legacy and UEFI
[20:24] <PrincessCoderDas> Hi
[20:24] <EriC^^> Mina_: choose uefi alone
[20:24] <Dandels> hi PrincessCoderDas
[20:24] <PrincessCoderDas> What is the subject we are talking about?
[20:24] <Mina_> ok
[20:24] <PrincessCoderDas> Hi Dandels
[20:24] <Dandels> Just random people with different issues
[20:24] <PrincessCoderDas> Okay xD
[20:25] <PrincessCoderDas> Currently coding but i thought it may be nice to chat sometimes instead of sitting the whole day in my house lol
[20:25] <Dandels> lerner, probably not a problem. You'll know if things don't work, but the warning message doesn't mean anything is necessarily wrong
[20:25] <\9> just because you chat doesn't mean you aren't spending the whole day in your house
[20:25] <tgm4883> PrincessCoderDas: this is the support channel. If you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:26] <PrincessCoderDas> I know but still. Okay thanks tgm dude.
[20:28] <monty_hall> 14.04  doesn't have exfat-fuse or exfat-utils
[20:28] <lerner> ok, the experimental kernel 4.7 appears if I execute dpkg -l | grep linux-image: linux-image-4.7.0-040700rc1-generic , but there are no extras (linux-image-extras)... do I need them to test this new kernel?
[20:28] <monty_hall> has this been removed?
[20:28] <k1l_> lerner: they are testkernels. dont expect full service
[20:29] <bluejeans> hi
[20:29] <monty_hall> nvm
[20:29] <monty_hall> I was adding a "t"
[20:29] <monty_hall> :P
[20:31] <Simooon> Hi I can't get my graphics card working does anyone have any ideas? I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and have a Gorrce GTX 780M, and my computer works fine (but slowly, think it is just using the intel graphix) with the nouveauy driver installed, but every time I install an nvidia driver, it just goes black when I start up. It makes the normal sound, and I can type my password and enter the desktop environment, where my computer closes down if I press th
[20:31] <Simooon> e turn off button, but everything is black. If I enter an other tty I get the expected commandline and can uninstall the nvidia driver, and everytjing works like normal after a restart. Any insight will be greatly appreciated.
[20:31] <lerner> ok k1l_ aaaaaaaaaargh
[20:32] <lerner> I need to uninstall the linux-image-extra, what will happen if I do that?
[20:32] <lerner> will something break?
[20:32] <k1l_> lerner: and as i said already: you need kernel image and headers deb
[20:32] <lerner> no k1l_ im somehere else now...
[20:32] <lerner> kernel in use right now has extras , which I need to uninstall
[20:32] <k1l_> lerner: no. that is very important if you want to use closed source drivers like the nvidia one
[20:33] <k1l_> lerner: why that?
[20:33] <vevais> Oy
[20:33] <lerner> if one is using select proprietary or out-of-tree modules (ex. vitualbox, nvidia, fglrx, bcmwl, etc.) unless there is an extra package available for the version you are testing, you will need to uninstall the module first, in order to test the mainline kernel.
[20:33] <lerner> taken from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds
[20:33] <dbz2k> how do I update my header files in /usr/local/include/
[20:33] <alanclark5> sorry i had issues again @SchrodingersScat  so does it open a socket to port 80, send a http get request or something like that? I am trying to replicate its functioning for a programming project
[20:34] <lerner> there is no extras for 4.7, so I have to uninstall the extras for <IP_ADDRESS> (in use right now)
[20:34] <k1l_> lerner: did or did you not install the headers.deb matching your testing kernel?
[20:35] <Bashing-om> Simooon: What driver(s) is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? Does it match the hardware ?? (361 + )
[20:35] <PsynoKhi0> hi, if I attempt to dualboot 2 versions of in uefi mode on the same GPT formatted hard drive, provided I mount the same partition as /boot/efi on both, are they going to take turns handling GRUB after bootloader updates?
[20:35] <lerner> k1l_, I donwloaded headers AND image for 4.7 in 64 bits architecture, but there are no extras for 4.7...
[20:35] <PsynoKhi0> 2 versions of ubuntu*
[20:35] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: simply no
[20:36] <lerner> I downloaded whats available k1l_ , the generic ones, but there are no extras...
[20:36] <lerner> I installed it with sudo dpkg -i *.deb from the directory in which I downloaded both headers and image
[20:36] <k1l_> lerner: yes, there are no extras. doesnt matter.
[20:37] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: simply no, one will handle grub, or simply no, don't dual boot?
[20:37] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: one will handle the grub config and then you wont be able to boot to the other one
[20:37] <lerner> k1l_, I want to avoid problems when booting if I dont delete the extras for 4.4 (actual kernel), so, do I nuke the extras for <IP_ADDRESS> or not?
[20:37] <Simooon> Bashing-om, nvidia-304, nvidia-current, nvidia-opencl-icd-304, which as far as I can tell is what I need
[20:37] <PsynoKhi0> oh
[20:38] <k1l_> lerner: if it doesnt boot just go back to the older kernel in grub.
[20:38] <lerner> k1l_, I access GRUB pressinf f2, correct?
[20:38] <k1l_> lerner: its a testing kernel. i bet you plan to stay on that, which is definetly the wrong way
[20:38] <lerner> pressing
[20:38] <k1l_> no, esc
[20:38] <k1l_> no, left shift
[20:38] <lerner> no, I want to test with it
[20:39] <Bashing-om> Simooon: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us . Says the 361 version driver for the stated card .
[20:39] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: so it has to be another distro?
[20:39] <lerner> ill boot as soon as this south park episode ends
[20:40] <Mina_> EriC^^: ?
[20:40] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: no
[20:40] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: that wont work either for the same reason
[20:40] <EriC^^> yes?
[20:40] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: if you have 2 distros you actually end up with 3 grub installs....
[20:40] <Mina_> There no Windows in List
[20:41] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: you basically doing chain loading. So the main grub is used to select which other grub to load which is then controlled by each install
[20:41] <EriC^^> Mina_: are you in the live usb now in uefi mode?
[20:41] <Mina_> And if enable UEFI + Legacy then Name of the hd in list but it not run
[20:41] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: but why anyone would need multiple instals on a single machine i do not know ;)
[20:41] <Mina_> YEs
[20:42] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[20:42] <Mina_> Now only UEFI enabled
[20:42] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: here's my reason: gallium nine and padoka
[20:42] <Mina_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /sys/firmware/efi config_table  esrt              fw_vendor  runtime-map  vars efivars       fw_platform_size  runtime    systab
[20:42] <EriC^^> Mina_: which windows are you trying to install?
[20:42] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[20:42] <Simooon> Bashing-om, pretty sure I tried that one as well but I honestly cant keep count anymore, will try that one (possibly again) and return to tell what happend.
[20:42] <Mina_> i not trying I installed 100%
[20:42] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: and a thrid install to keep up with rpm-based distros :)
[20:43] <Mina_> w 8
[20:43] <EriC^^> Mina_: trying to boot :p
[20:43] <PsynoKhi0> maybe a forth for Arch...
[20:43] <Bashing-om> Simooon: What releae are you on ? As that drivr is not available in the 14.04 repo .
[20:43] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: you realize you can run most things inside a virtualmachine or inside docker or another type of jail?
[20:43] <Mina_> I have it
[20:43] <Simooon> 16.,04
[20:43] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:43] <Simooon> Bashing-om, 16.04
[20:43] <Mina_> no run
[20:44] <Simooon> Bashing-om, there is a newer version as well, I defenately tried that one, and that did not work.
[20:44] <Mina_> http://termbin.com/ihht
[20:45] <Simooon> Bashing-om, okay it is installed, will restart brb
[20:45] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: can I use different GPU drivers/modules for my AMD card w/o jumping through PCI passthroughs that way though :P
[20:45] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, windows isn't in the efi list
[20:46] <EriC^^> Mina_: try to reinstall windows with uefi only set
[20:46] <EriC^^> then ubuntu
[20:46] <Mina_> ok
[20:46] <Bashing-om> Simooon: K.. good to go .. purge what you have and rm the present /etc/X11/xorg.conf file . Might see what the sytem chooses to install ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' and be done with it :)
[20:46] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: well you could by using a different kernel at boot time or by unloading / loading the gpu drivers ;)
[20:48] <lizard_> hi
[20:48] <PsynoKhi0> hmmm
[20:49] <Simooon> Bashing-om, nope same as all the other tries, loginscreen is completely black, though it seems to be there, just not rendered somehow.
[20:50] <Simooon> Bashing-om, any other ideas? :-)
[20:50] <Danielh90> I really want to switch to ubuntu but I'm afraid too.
[20:50] <Bashing-om> Simooon: Boot the guest session and GUI is good ?
[20:50] <Simooon> how do I do that?
[20:50] <Simooon> Bashing-om, how do I do that?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> Simooon: Ar the login screen I expect there to be an option to choose "guest" .
[20:52] <Simooon> Bashing-om, Oh, but by that point everything is already black, I just see the grub menu, and then the ubuntu with some dots underneath, and then everything is just black, but the sound for the login screen is there.
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Simooon: If the GUI is good in other sessions .. indicates a problem in the configs of your session .
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Simooon: Have you pruged the old drivers prior to installing another ? what have we ' dpkg -l | grep -l nvidia ' ?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> purged*
[20:54] <OerHeks> maybe nomodeset helps
[20:54] <Danielh90> Should I move to ubuntu desktop or keep with windows 10?
[20:54] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[20:55] <Simooon> Bashing-om, well when it does not work I purge the nvidia drivers, and then when I get it back again, the 304 versions have apeared again.
[20:56] <Simooon> I could try purging that one before I install another, but as far as I can tell, it does that automatically? Not sure if I tried that yet though.
[20:56] <Simooon> Bashing-om,  (sorry forgot to ping ) I could try purging that one before I install another, but as far as I can tell, it does that automatically? Not sure if I tried that yet though.
[20:59] <IREALLYambatman> Hey guys.. has anyone figured out how to move buttons to the right of windows for 16.04?
[21:00] <xangua> IREALLYambatman: in unity, you don't
[21:00] <IREALLYambatman> No one has patched unity?
[21:00] <tgm4883> I'll play, what's to patch? It's not broken
[21:01] <IREALLYambatman> What is 'second' best.. Should I switch to Gnome?
[21:01] <Bashing-om> Simooon: What I have found to be a best practice ' sudo apt purge nvidia '. Then see what the system installs ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[21:02] <Dandels> What does "move buttons to the right of windows" mean? Move the panel to the right?
[21:02] <IREALLYambatman> "So until someone can produce a suitable patch for the Unity source code, and I would personally welcome such a patch, we are stuck with buttons to the left."
[21:02] <Simooon> Bashing-om, okay will try that in half an hour, got a skype call :-) but thanks for the sugestions :-)
[21:02] <IREALLYambatman> Like the minimize close fullscreen buttons
[21:02] <tgm4883> IREALLYambatman: there used to be a theme to do it IIRC
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Simooon: OH . remove the old /etc/X11/Xorg.conf . A new one should be made .
[21:02] <IREALLYambatman> tgm4883, I thought that wasn't able to be done anymore
[21:03] <tgm4883> IREALLYambatman: possibly not, IDK, I like the buttons on the left
[21:03] <Simooon> Bashing-om, will do that as well
[21:03] <IREALLYambatman> Sorry guys I know I'm asking REALLY REALLY newby questions.. I used to run debian back in the days and am trying to relearn everything
[21:04] <xangua> IREALLYambatman: the patch is: use another desktop environment; and if you like customize your desktop you won't like gnome that much either
[21:04] <IREALLYambatman> xangua, I just want it to FEEL like a windows gui, I tried installing a windows theme, didn't do much. What would you recommend?
[21:05] <xangua> IREALLYambatman: xfce and KDE are pretty much still the same and allow the user to customize it
[21:05] <k1l_> IREALLYambatman: look at xubuntu, lubuntu or ubuntu mate.
[21:05] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:    I use LXDE which is openbox-based, and in openbox, the buttons atop of the window are configurable, to the left or right, and you can rearrange them, if you want the close button first, middle, wherever, hmmm the same is true for Kwin kde windows manager btw, those buttons are also customizable for kwin
[21:05] <xangua> KDE looks kinda like windows 10 if that's what you mean
[21:06] <IREALLYambatman> Is it easier to just install KDE or reinstall all of kubuntu?
[21:06] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:    there's an LXDE-qt,  same as lxde, just a bit fancier, same, uses openbox customization and settings
[21:06] <OerHeks> the only feel-like-windows is windows.
[21:06] <Shibe> how can I search ubuntu repositories online?
[21:06] <Shibe> ubuntu 16 ones
[21:07] <k1l_> Shibe: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Shibe: ' apt-cache search <term> ' .
[21:07] <k1l_> IREALLYambatman: you can install the desktop meta packages
[21:07] <Shibe> Bashing-om: I'd do that but i'm searching a package for 16.04 even though I'm on 14
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Shibe: Then as k1l_ advises ^ ,
[21:08] <Shibe> yeah thanks I found the package I was looking for
[21:08] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: I'll investigate that option, thanks
[21:09] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:     depends on what you have, if you can reinstall, I'd do so, I installed kubuntu on an ssd in about 8mins
[21:10] <IREALLYambatman> bprompt, >.< ok. I kinda already installed a lot of stuff here, didn't want to re-install everything
[21:10] <k1l_> IREALLYambatman: as i said: you can install the desktop metapackages
[21:10] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:   then install kubuntu-desktop package
[21:10] <IREALLYambatman> k1l_, looking for the package name now
[21:11] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:     lxde or lxde-qt are openbox-based, and the window buttons are customizable as well, as aforementioned, lxde-qt is just a bit fancier
[21:11] <k1l_> there are xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, (i dont know the mate one of my head). i dont really find kde to be windows lookalike.
[21:12] <cage> Hey guys, is there a easy way adjusting mouse acceleration on ubuntu? I did some research and most ended up with etc/X11/xorg.conf stuff, which seems doesnt get generated on default anyway ( actually tried tweaking it with some guide and ended up with more troubles )
[21:13] <cage> not on the ubuntu pc now, but for later reference would be appreciated
[21:16] <bprompt> cage:    xinput, or using xset -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration   <--- you could do it in xorg.conf or add it to $HOME/.bashrc I'd think
[21:19] <cage> yea, i've come a cross that link but i had trouble with the xorg.conf part of it
[21:20] <bprompt> cage:    then maybe do it wtih xset, in a script, and have .bashrc run it
[21:21] <cage> yea that looks like something i could manage ^^
[21:30] <Cursarion> hi
[21:30] <Cursarion> I just installed Lubuntu
[21:30] <Cursarion> there doesn't seem to be a root account?
[21:32] <bprompt> Cursarion:     but  you do have your regular user account, right?
[21:32] <OerHeks> !sudo
[21:33] <Mina_> EriC^^?
[21:33] <EriC^^> Mina_: yes?
[21:33] <EriC^^> any luck?
[21:33] <k1l_> Cursarion: ubuntu doesnt use the root account, it uses sudo. see the bots message
[21:33] <Mina_> Windows copy files and reboot and not run from the hard drive
[21:34] <Mina_> Windows installation...
[21:34] <Cursarion> ah
[21:34] <Cursarion> well, sudo is alright then
[21:34] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, try setting it to legacy only
[21:34] <Mina_> I have gpt Legacy work woth MBR
[21:35] <Mina_> with
[21:35] <Cursarion> I have a SSD, how's things regarding those nowadays? Should I check mount options or something?
[21:35] <Bashing-om> !trim | Cursarion
[21:36] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type sudo fdisk /dev/sdX
[21:36] <Mina_> If I boot UEFI then i not see in boot list my hard drive, but I see it in Legacy
[21:36] <EriC^^> press "o" to make a fresh mbr, then press "w" to write
[21:36] <bprompt> Cursarion:    in case you need to do a "su" session, you can always do a "sudo su", and that works, just like in any "su" session, don't forget to exit, and keep in mind that you're rooted... according to cannonical folks, is an welcome security extra, that should help many folks from messing something up inadvertentely, reason why is kinda tucked in "sudo" or much rather have folks use "sudo" most of the time
[21:37] <EriC^^> then use sudo fixparts /dev/sdX to remove the remaining gpt from it
[21:37] <Mina_> And my data?
[21:37] <Mina_> All will be removed?
[21:37] <EriC^^> yes
[21:38] <Mina_> NOOO
[21:38] <Mina_> hey?
[21:38] <EriC^^> ok
[21:38] <EriC^^> can you back it up somewhere until you've done the conversion?
[21:39] <bprompt> Cursarion:   nothing special per se, for ssd's, just another storage drive, is all
[21:39] <Mina_> no
[21:39] <Cursarion> Bashing-om: hmm, so, a scheduled trim is enabled by default then? How's it implemented, I checked crontab and it's empty
[21:39] <Mina_> I not made conversions
[21:39] <EriC^^> Mina_: are you in ubuntu live usb with uefi only?
[21:39] <Cursarion> bprompt: yeah, sudo's neat, but I've generally used su a lot too
[21:40] <Mina_> I just install first Linux and remove then second...
[21:40] <Mina_> Yes
[21:40] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 quickly
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Cursarion: Sorry, That is all I am aware of .. that it is supported .. in the kernel ?
[21:40] <bprompt> Cursarion:    I do both, used to do quite a few "su" in SuSE, but also used sudo, so...I use both, depending on the need
[21:40] <Mina_> Use netcat. nc: getaddrinfo: Servname not supported for ai_socktype
[21:41] <EriC^^> Mina_: try again
[21:41] <Mina_> Use netcat. nc: getaddrinfo: Servname not supported for ai_socktype
[21:41] <bprompt> hehe
[21:41] <bprompt> Mina_:    I don't think he meant you to enter "quickly" at the end btw =)
[21:42] <EriC^^> Mina_: try sudo blkid | grep fat
[21:42] <EriC^^> does it sat /dev/sda2 at the start? just 1 line
[21:42] <EriC^^> *say
[21:43] <Mina_> i cant post here
[21:43] <EriC^^> just see the start of it
[21:43] <lol> hi
[21:43] <EriC^^> if it says /dev/sda2 or something else
[21:43] <Mina_> 2 lines
[21:43] <lol> who is here??
[21:44] <lol_> hi
[21:44] <EriC^^> Mina_: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:44] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[21:44] <Erige> I can find any straight answer, I would like to use unity on my 2-1 one when I use touch screen, and XFCE when I am in desktop mode. I currently have Xubuntu installed, would I run into any problems installing ubuntu-desktop,
[21:45] <Mina_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l | pastebinit Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[21:47] <EriC^^> Mina_: was one of the 2 lines before /dev/sda2?
[21:47] <Mina_> no
[21:47] <EriC^^> what were they
[21:47] <Mina_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l | pastebinit Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes. KeyboardInterrupt caught. ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[21:47] <Mina_> nothing
[21:47] <Mina_> it not work
[21:47] <EriC^^> no i mean with sudo blkid | grep fat
[21:48] <Mina_> how to post?
[21:48] <EriC^^> sudo blkid | grep fat | pastebinit
[21:49] <Mina_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17232569/
[21:49] <Cursarion> Bashing-om: mkay
[21:49] <Cursarion> how should I install new software?
[21:49] <Cursarion> synaptic+
[21:49] <Cursarion> ?
[21:49] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, try sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 2 -d /dev/sda
[21:50] <k1l_> Cursarion: any packagemanager you like. most in here use "apt" on terminal or the softwarecenter in GUI
[21:50] <Mina_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 2 -d /dev/sda  | pastebinit ** Warning ** : Boot0000 has same label Windows http://paste.ubuntu.com/17232626/
[21:51] <EriC^^> Mina_: btw, whatever you do (in case this doesn't work), dont convert gpt to mbr using gdisk, i tried it today and it ruined my hdd and the data even
[21:51] <EriC^^> (the transformation gpt to mbr option in gdisk)
[21:51] <EriC^^> Mina_: try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:52] <Mina_> I many times convert mbr to gpt and gpt to mbr for windows 8 and 7
[21:52] <Mina_> gdisk
[21:52] <EriC^^> Mina_: with the data there?
[21:52] <Mina_> yes of cose and all work many time
[21:53] <EriC^^> Mina_: i've tried it before and i think it has worked, but today i tried it and the disk's partitions were gone, it said disk no label, i recreated them using old pastes but when i mounted the stuff the data wasn't there
[21:53] <mr-k> hi everyone,
[21:53] <EriC^^> i wouldn't recommend it obviously
[21:53] <Mina_> http://termbin.com/drr8
[21:53] <mr-k> what engine uses ubuntu phone for hybrid apps?
[21:54] <mr-k> webkit -> blink? gecko?
[21:54] <Mina_> ok
[21:54] <EriC^^> Mina_: it looks like windows is already in the efi list
[21:55] <EriC^^> Mina_: did you try to disable/enable secure boot?
[21:55] <Mina_> UEFI only
[21:55] <Mina_> no
[21:55] <Mina_> and where it?
[21:55] <EriC^^> under uefi
[21:55] <EriC^^> boot options, maybe under security
[21:56] <bprompt> mr-k:    I'd think webkit, one may note blink is just a webkit for, but I don't think it's gecko, I know android uses webkit
[21:56] <Mina_> I not found it in BIOS
[21:56] <bprompt> s/for/fork/
[21:56] <EriC^^> Mina_: which laptop?
[21:57] <Mina_> http://images.anandtech.com/doci/8394/MSI%20Z97GP%20BIOS%2021%20-%20Boot.jpg
[21:57] <mr-k> android uses webkit, yes. the thing with ubuntu is they always release the distro with firefox pre-installed
[21:57] <Mina_> but i have h97 model
[21:58] <mr-k> and I think that, the default engine in ubuntu browser is gecko.
[21:58] <Cursarion> k1l_: okay, thanks... lubuntu software center seems bit buggy :| but seems to work
[21:58] <mr-k> so, i'm a bit worried about that
[21:58] <k1l_> mr-k: the ubuntu browser is a chromium thing
[21:58] <Cursarion> I wonder if I should get any drivers or so, the fan is going crazy
[21:58] <bprompt> mr-k:     well, hmmmm I know kubuntu uses webkit, though it comes with firefox installed
[21:58] <mr-k> it's chromium? since when?
[21:58] <Cursarion> and I'm running nothing at all
[21:59] <EriC^^> Mina_: it should be somewhere, maybe security
[21:59] <mr-k> tried in 14.04 and was still gecko, so glad if they switched tho
[21:59] <mr-k> bah.. gecko is a great engine. it is. webkit feels more native somehow.
[22:00] <Mina_> i go to BIOS
[22:04] <Mina__> I not see in BIOS security boot option
[22:05] <Mina__> EriC?
[22:05] <Mina__> And dd reading sectors?
[22:05] <Mina__> first and last 1 Mb
[22:07] <cbfmc> hey people
[22:07] <Danielh90> Should I switch to ubuntu for my main driver? os
[22:07] <cbfmc> can anyone help out with minitube?
[22:07] <bprompt> Danielh90:    that's more of a question for you, not us :)
[22:08] <Bashing-om> Danielh90: Use the tools that suit you best .. all things considered .
[22:09] <bprompt> cbfmc:    I don't use it myself, so, though I'd say, IIRC SMplayer has a youtube plugin
[22:09] <Danielh90> bprompt, Bashing-om Ubuntu and windows can do the same thing for me :) I have been on windows for many years and would like a change
[22:10] <k1l_> Danielh90: since you ask here: move to ubuntu :)
[22:10] <Danielh90> Would you guys recommend ubuntu?
[22:10] <OerHeks> cbfmc, didn't you ask this yesterday too ?
[22:10] <Mina__> EriC^^: ?
[22:10] <bprompt> Danielh90:     well, may well be, but that's a decision that belongs to you, not us though :)
[22:10] <Danielh90> k1l_, will do Thanks
[22:10] <OerHeks> cbfmc, old bug ( 12.10 ) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minitube/+bug/1061092  no way to play, use an other youtbe app
[22:11] <OerHeks> cbfmc, and the project is dead on github :-)
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Danielh90: So, make up  desktop live mediums . and see what you like . In the "try ubuntu" mode will not effect the present instaled OS .
[22:11] <bprompt> Danielh90:     I would recommend Cramps medicine, tis good, now, if you are not female and get cramps.. then they won't do much for you though, though it may work great for females with cramps, so.... it's a decision that you have to make
[22:13] <bprompt> Danielh90:    I mean, ask  a snake oil salesman if he would recommend snake oil, what do you think he's going to say?
[22:13] <Cursarion> umm... the fan is going even faster, despite I'm not running anything
[22:13] <Cursarion> how do I know if I need some drivers or something?
[22:14] <bprompt> Cursarion:    for kubuntu you mean?
[22:15] <Cursarion> lubuntu, but yeah
[22:15] <Cursarion> I'm a bit concerned about whether my hardware is properly supported or not
[22:15] <k1l_> Cursarion: open system-properties-gtk and see the drivers tab
[22:15] <bekks> Cursarion: More like you should clean your fan and heatpipe :)
[22:15] <bprompt> Cursarion:    nope, you mean you clean-installed Lubuntu ?
[22:16] <Cursarion> bekks: it's a brand new computer with AMD FX-8370
[22:16] <hello-zero> is there a way to stop a specific package (in this case nginx) being upgraded when i do apt-get upgrade ?
[22:16] <Cursarion> bprompt: well, I made a USB stick with the image and installed it
[22:16] <EriC^^> Mina__: is there a boot menu for uefi you can access while the pc boots?
[22:16] <bekks> Cursarion: Maybe the fan is undersized.
[22:17] <Cursarion> after that I installed the updates that it found
[22:17] <IREALLYambatman> What is the right apt-get install package for KDE?
[22:17] <Cursarion> k1l_: I don't have that
[22:17] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <Cursarion> bekks: well, it's possible
[22:18] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, thanks
[22:18] <bprompt> Cursarion:     well, bear in mind that Lubuntu tis just Ubuntu using LXDE as desktop and windows manager, the drivers are still the same as any Ubuntu's
[22:18] <Cursarion> well, yeah, but would Ubuntu have all the optimal drivers at this point?
[22:19] <bprompt> Cursarion:    I mean, you may have changed the blinds, you didn't change the house though, so.. the house is still uses the same drivers as before
[22:19] <Cursarion> yes, but I have never used Ubuntu on my own computer before, and not especially on this one
[22:20] <Cursarion> so I wouldn't really know
[22:20] <IREALLYambatman> KDE is prompting me to chose a default display manager... SDDM or lightDM.. which should I go for?
[22:20] <Cursarion> the software & updates tool checked for propietary drivers and it found Unknown that isn't working
[22:20] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: lightdm
[22:21] <Cursarion> it offers amd64-microcode driver though
[22:21] <Cursarion> I'll install that and see what happens
[22:21] <bprompt> Cursarion:     well, if you want to check hardware drivers and such.... you can always make -> sudo lshw  <--- a call
[22:21] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, thanks.
[22:21] <bprompt> Cursarion:    and/or "lspci" and "lsusb"
[22:21] <Cursarion> at installation I opted out from the propietary software thingie
[22:22] <Cursarion> how do I know if something's missing?
[22:23] <IREALLYambatman> I got on screen warnings about error's and terminal gve me the error.. Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:23] <IREALLYambatman>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[22:23] <IREALLYambatman>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kaccounts-providers_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[22:23] <IREALLYambatman> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:23] <bekks> !pastebin | IREALLYambatman
[22:24] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Please patebin the entire output, not just a few lines.
[22:24] <nicomachus> IREALLYambatman: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[22:27] <IREALLYambatman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17233895/
[22:27] <Cursarion> bprompt? are there any obvious clues to see if something might be missing?
[22:27] <IREALLYambatman> That gave me errors too.
[22:27] <IREALLYambatman> should I logout and try switching to KDE?
[22:28] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Why didnt you run the command I gave you earlier?
[22:28] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, ? I did?
[22:28] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Where, in that almost 6000 lineS?
[22:28] <Cursarion> and dunno, the case doesn't feel very warm
[22:28] <Cursarion> nor the air coming out from the fan
[22:29] <Cursarion> a panel applet shows a temperature of 60
[22:29] <bekks> Cursarion: And the heatpipe is hot.
[22:29] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, lol. You told me not to leave anything out :P
[22:29] <IREALLYambatman> ill repaste
[22:29] <Cursarion> no idea what scale it uses
[22:29] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Celsius scale.
[22:30] <Cursarion> mkay
[22:30] <ronin-> hi, will this kind of init script work in the latest ubuntu version: https://gist.github.com/naholyr/4275302#file-service-sh
[22:31] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234022/
[22:31] <bekks> ronin-: How about just trying it? :)
[22:31] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, what is Celsuis scale?
[22:31] <ronin-> bekks: i have xubuntu 14.04 still :(
[22:32] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Try removing all account-plugin-* packages.
[22:33] <IREALLYambatman> So sudo apt-get remove account-plugin-*?
[22:33] <ronin-> i just heard that this kind of things have changed recently in ubuntu, but i hope it works
[22:33] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Yes.
[22:35] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234147/
[22:35] <Cursarion> bekks: any idea about the unknown device that's reported as not working? As in, is there a way to find out what device it is, and possibly make it work?
[22:35] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Did you do what line 68 suggests?
[22:36] <bekks> Cursarion: Try looking at sudo lspci -k and sudo lsusb
[22:37] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, didn't seem to fix it.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234220/
[22:38] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/618389/trying-to-overwrite-usr-share-accounts-services-google-im-service-which-is
[22:38] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, when I originally installed the KDE package I accidentally typed sudo sudo apt-get install kde-desktop, could that be the issue?
[22:38] <Cursarion> bekks: neither of those report any unknowns
[22:38] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: No.
[22:38] <bekks> Cursarion: Of course they dont. :D
[22:39] <Cursarion> hardinfo actually reports opengl renderer as unknown
[22:39] <bekks> Cursarion: But the give you the list of devices found - now you have to compare that list with the specs of the all components in your computer.
[22:39] <bekks> Cursarion: Which points to your opt-out of proprietary drivers earlier.
[22:40] <Cursarion> didn't that refer to software packaged by Canonical partners?
[22:40] <Cursarion> I'll go enable that now
[22:40] <Cursarion> and C library and default C compiler are unknowns too, but that hardly has anything to do with amd
[22:47] <Cursarion> enabling it didn't actually help, yet at least
[22:47] <Cursarion> but now I have a warning box about System program problem detected
[22:54] <Ancoor> Hi, Im here because my shorewall not start automaclty after my last upgrade
[22:56] <jagunco> this is a test
[22:57] <Ancoor> noone here?
[22:57] <jagunco> i'm here
[22:57] <bigLanky> I have mounted a network drive using this command: mount -t cifs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWD //<IP_ADDRESS>/media/tv /SOME/PLACE
[22:57] <bigLanky> so on my box, I now have a mounted drive on /SOME/PLACE... I need to unmount that
[22:58] <bigLanky> I am using: umount /SOME/PLACE and I get message that it is not mounted
[22:59] <bigLanky> now it worked, that was weird
[23:00] <jagunco> good
[23:01] <jagunco> i'm noob with freenode, so why i can't send messages to some channels?
[23:02] <k1l_> jagunco: some channels need registration due to troll abuse. see the channels topic, that should explain it.
[23:02] <bprompt> jagunco:   channel is probably in +r mode, meaning, only registered nicknames can send post, eveyone else, can read-only
[23:02] <jagunco> i understand, thank you both
[23:03] <jagunco> is there a way to list channel's modes?
[23:04] <bprompt> jagunco:   as  far as the abuse part, not sure I share that, some ops simply opt that mode, for their own reasons, sometimes not well founded though
[23:05] <bprompt> jagunco:    I think you can do a /who #CHANNELNAME
[23:05] <k1l_> no. channel modes are seen with "/mode #channelname"
[23:05] <k1l_> but i bet most topics should clear that bit already.
[23:06] <jagunco> "/mode #channelName" did not show anything for #vim channel :p
[23:06] <Ancoor> anyone has any idea why my shorewall not restarting after reboot?
[23:06] <k1l_> jagunco: look into the server window of your irc client
[23:07] <k1l_> Ancoor: shorewall is just a frontend to iptables. so you mean iptables is not running?
[23:07] <jagunco> k1l_, bingo!
[23:07] <jagunco> thanx :)
[23:08] <Ancoor> K1l_: It's running since when I start shorewall it's instant start of my rules.... :-)
[23:10] <jagunco> if i start another irc client with another nickname, will i be able to speak to myself to do some tests?
[23:11] <k1l_> yes
[23:11] <jagunco> cool
[23:11] <Ancoor> K1L_: Yes, iptables is running, im commincating with my server with ssh... no problem.
[23:12] <wenzel62> hi !
[23:13] <wenzel62> i installed a custom kernel on ubuntu 16.04, and i can't boot on it, the system hangs on grub loading the kernel
[23:15] <Ancoor> Shorewall is not longer supported?
[23:16] <bprompt> !shorewall | Ancoor
[23:16] <jagunco> wenzel62: how did you get this kernel?
[23:17] <wenzel62> jagunco: i cloned linux on github
[23:17] <wenzel62> i did make oldddefconfig, make , make modules, make modules_install, make install
[23:17] <OerHeks> wenzel62, unsupported, use the mainline kernels
[23:17] <OerHeks> !mainline
[23:17] <k1l_> wenzel62: ubuntu uses a lot of patches in its kernels.
[23:18] <wenzel62> but i'm working on an older version of the kernel
[23:18] <wenzel62> 4.0.0-rc3
[23:18] <wenzel62> is this why it doesn't boot ?
[23:18] <goudkov> i had something really weird just happen on one server. ubuntu 14.04, on Xeon(R) CPU E5-2430, kernel 4.2.0. all of the sudden, cpuinfo was showing 160-200 MHz (yep, that's right), and the server was non-responsive. with 10+ load average where normally it's 0.50 with this workload. rebooting didn't help at first. then, it all went back to normal. have no idea what happened or how to stop it from happening again. help. really,help. i'm scared :)
[23:18] <Ancoor> I usded shorewall since 1990.... really?
[23:19] <goudkov> could be something with intel_pstate, but that's default driver for this cpu in this kernel.
[23:19] <jagunco> does someone here works for canonnical? i want to work remotely from home to contribute to free software, how can i start? is it possible?
[23:20] <Guest84724> Hello All... a question for you... I loaded ubuntu on an acer AspireONe a while back... when I went to use it recently, It said an update was available...but it didn't take  I had already deleted my windows xp... and so now I get a grub rescue... I tried to do a flash drive and cd install but nothing works... any suggestions?
[23:20] <OerHeks> Ancoor, on what ubuntu version?
[23:20] <Ancoor> DerHeks... mandriva
[23:21] <OerHeks> oh
[23:21] <k1l_> jagunco: canonical has job offers from time to time. see their announcements. for partizipation in ubuntu see !contribute
[23:21] <Ancoor> I guess I need to learn new thing again
[23:23] <jagunco> k1l_: i'm too newbie for the recent offers, i started programming 'bout 2-3 years ago, but now i know better the OO programming paradigm. I don't know how I can get paid working with free software
[23:24] <jagunco> !contribute
[23:24] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shorewall/+bug/1571972
[23:24] <OerHeks> for 16.04 that is ..
[23:25] <OerHeks> nice discussion https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=773392
[23:32] <lubber> Ahoy. In my 14.04 Lubuntu install the kernel -88 seems to be missing almost all drivers, including network. Luckily I could reboot to -86 which runs fine. Can I somehow reconfigure the -88 kernel or so?
[23:38] <lubber> My HD was full during automatic upgrading so I did an apt-get autoremove before the problem occurred by booting to the new kernel for the 1st time, if that helps
[23:39] <k1l_> lubber: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[23:40] <cbfmc> can anyone help me out getting minitube to work on 14.04?
[23:40] <OerHeks> cbfmc, unlikely
[23:40] <OerHeks> cbfmc, old bug ( 12.10 ) still valid  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minitube/+bug/1061092  no way to play, use an other youtbe app
[23:41] <jagunco> is it a good practice to backup or configure as a separate partition the /var/cache/apt/archives directory to avoid downloading all the packages i need again?
[23:42] <bprompt> cbfmc:     IIRC Smplayer has a youtube plugin, if that helps
[23:44] <bprompt> cbfmc:    check the repositories for smplayer and "smtube"
[23:45] <lubber> Thanks k1l_. It says "Unpacking linux-generic (<IP_ADDRESS>.94) over (<IP_ADDRESS>.92) ...", but I guess I will not lose the working -86 kernel?
[23:46] <lubber> Ah grub found the -86 too, so I hope its ok
[23:49] <SamF> What's the generally agreed upon to be the best "IRC" client for Ubuntu?  I'm using Polari and it's okay but a bit too "bare bones".
[23:49] <SamF> *agreed upon to be the "best" IRC
[23:49] <OerHeks> jagunco, you could back them up, sure, see apt-clone http://askubuntu.com/a/486634
[23:49] <k1l_> there is no best. some use hexchat, some use weechat, some use irssi....
[23:50] <K350> SamF: Are you looking for a text.based  client or one wiht a GUI?
[23:50] <SamF> By text based do you mean that it runs in the terminal?
[23:50] <Smashcat> Hi, I have ubuntu 14.04.4 on a server, but for some reason the pam service doesn't work with dovecot (failing authentication even though details are correct). Anyone know if there's a known issue with it? Is it possible to bypass pam some way?
[23:51] <K350> SamF: Yes
[23:51]  * OerHeks wants a cartoon-ish irc client
[23:51] <Smashcat> Or, are there any better alternatives to dovecot as an imap server?
[23:52] <hello-zero> even though i installed openssl 1.02h and libssl-dev 1.0.2h-1+deb.sury.org~trusty+1 when i build nginx and run it it still says openssl 1.01f - anyone have any ideas what could be going on?
[23:52] <jagunco> OerHeks, great answer, thankyou :)
[23:55] <SamF> I'll try out a few.
[23:55] <Cursarion> irssi <3
[23:56] <SamF> Now, if I find one I like and get rid of Polari with sudo apt-get purge polari
[23:56] <SamF> that will axe the program and all related files that are not in the home directory.
[23:56] <lubber> Thanks again k1l_, the -88 kernel works fine now too.
[23:57] <SamF> is there any way to find any files it may have created in my home directory?
[23:57] <k1l_> SamF: all files that were created during install. not in your home.
[23:57] <SamF> I did ls -a ~/
[23:57] <SamF> and a lot of stuff printed to the screen.
[23:57] <k1l_> SamF: the files in your home are created on first run. so apt cant know what there is.
[23:58] <SamF> I know.
[23:58] <SamF> But is there an automated way to find them?
[23:58] <k1l_> no
[23:59] <SamF> So if you try a lot of programs how do you keep from accumuluating a bunch of useless config files in your home directory?
[23:59] <k1l_> remove that config files afterwards.
[23:59] <k1l_> if you dont bother to find them, why bother for them at all?


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[00:57] <cjwatson> evand: can you deal with the partman-target merge? all the rest of partman is done now