[06:57] <apb1963> On Windoze I'm able to select "stereo mix" to pipe music into a chat room... does anyone know the equivalent way to do that with ubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:58] <apb1963> I'm using amarok
[06:58] <wafflejock> 12.04 is the latest LTS (long term support) release 13.10 is brand new (october 2013) I'm running 13.04 but on my laptop so intel graphics
[06:58] <TheyTookErJobs> hah I have no idea how to do any of this waffle/deper ;) I assume put nomodeset=1 in the boot grub?
[06:58] <apb1963> to play music of the Net
[06:58] <reisio> apb1963: with jack, or some pulse extension/config
[06:58] <apb1963> reisio: hmm
[06:59] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: wafflejock might know more. I can't remember how to blacklist a module.
[06:59] <deper29> hold on, I'll find out
[06:59] <deper29> :P
[06:59] <apb1963> guess i'll go google jack... thank you
[07:00] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[07:00] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: should just be nodemodeset as an option no =
[07:00] <Erealz> daper you there?
[07:01] <sasuke> hi
[07:01] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm, I'll give it a go. I remember using the nomodeset was when getting a blank screen. Not freezing.
[07:01] <TheyTookErJobs> Hey sasuke
[07:01] <sasuke> hi
[07:01] <deper29> Erealz: here
[07:01] <Erealz> k
[07:01] <sasuke> this is cool
[07:02] <Erealz>  i think i screw the pooch on this one
[07:02] <deper29> Erealz: why?
[07:02] <xmetal> ah ha ...
[07:02] <Erealz> it giveing a public key error i think fuckt up the config file
[07:02] <Erealz> so
[07:02] <xmetal> !nomodeset
[07:03] <Erealz> i i just uninstall the service and reinstall and start again would that work
[07:03] <xmetal> i had to do that on one of my pc's with a modern distro
[07:03] <deper29> Erealz: no, no need to do that
[07:03] <Erealz> to get the original config file  i mean?
[07:03] <deper29> that wouldn't do it anyway
[07:03] <deper29> pastebin your config
[07:04] <Erealz> i commented publicatuthentication and still wtf!!!
[07:04] <Erealz> k
[07:04] <Erealz> hold
[07:04] <Erealz> wait
[07:04] <Erealz> how
[07:04] <Erealz> im on the console
[07:04] <Erealz> there no gui
[07:05] <deper29> Erealz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:06] <Erealz> deper29 listen i think ill do a reinstall
[07:06] <Erealz> i have nothing on the server
[07:06] <Erealz> anyways
[07:07] <Erealz> it it as simple as uncommented the port
[07:07] <sasuke> this is cool wow
[07:07] <Erealz> witch not for nothing i dont think will work cuz i can almost suar that it waslready uncommented
[07:08] <sasuke> lol
[07:09] <Erealz> daper ill try this last thing but iv never used itb4
[07:09] <sasuke> HI
[07:09] <Erealz> what is command line syntax?
[07:09] <abdullatif> 14.04 start alpha?
[07:10] <k1l_> abdullatif: that needs some time, still
[07:10] <alusion> my friend is having networking issues connecting to wifi
[07:10] <alusion> this is a tail from dmesg http://i.imgur.com/tpILina.png
[07:10] <sasuke> anyone wanna help me instal windows 7 ?
[07:10] <alusion> I already went through standard troubleshooting
[07:10] <k1l_> sasuke: ask in ##windows for windows support
[07:11] <Erealz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374845
[07:11] <alusion> and tried sudo rfkill unblock all
[07:11] <xmetal> uh
[07:11] <xmetal> wrong room
[07:11] <k1l_> abdullatif: alpha1 14.04 is scheduled for 19th december
[07:11] <xmetal>  /channel... whatever
[07:12] <Erealz> can some one please help me with my ssh config file
[07:12] <deper29> Erealz: you have password authentication disabled
[07:13] <deper29> if you want to login with a password, change no to yes
[07:13] <deper29> and restart ssh
[07:13] <Erealz> k hold let me check that
[07:14] <deper29> alusion: shouldn't it be wlan0?
[07:14] <alusion> yeah
[07:14] <alusion> but it's not
[07:14] <alusion> I sometimes get that error message too on my debian machine
[07:14] <deper29> strange. Correct drivers?
[07:14] <alusion> otheres have had issues with his particular thinkpad
[07:15] <alusion> im gunna find out about drivers tomorrow if i cant troubleshoot now
[07:15] <alusion> im troubleshooting over instant messaging and hes just on an iphone
[07:15] <deper29> alusion: that's strange. Usually thinkpad is pretty good. is it intel wireless?
[07:15] <alusion> Yes deper29
[07:15] <LuvLinuxOS> #start-ubuntu
[07:15] <alusion> it's intel wireless
[07:15] <alusion> ;_;
[07:16] <deper29> alusion: what is the card from lspci?
[07:16] <alusion> just type lspci?
[07:16] <deper29> alusion: 'lspci | grep -i network'
[07:16] <parad0xx_> Hi, I installed 12.04 today alongside my xp pro install, but ubuntu can't see my 2nd hard drive (internal), xp still can.  Any ideas?
[07:16] <ASHER1> hello i need please help about vnc log how i can see history if someone connect in my ubuntu from vnc?
[07:17] <Erealz> now it works
[07:17] <Erealz> yeiiiii
[07:17] <deper29> Erealz: I *strongly* recommend that you consider using ssh keys and disable password authentication though.
[07:17] <Erealz> i know iv herd
[07:17] <kingbeast_> what do you guys use to rip a dvd to avi with in Ubuntu?
[07:18] <Erealz> however iv never used them b4 dont know anyting about them
[07:18] <ASHER1> ?
[07:18] <deper29> Erealz: they are really easy to use. https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html#openssh-keys
[07:19] <xmetal> i think VLC can do it
[07:19] <reisio> kingbeast_: mplayer -dumpstream dvd:// -dumpfile foo
[07:19] <reisio> kingbeast_: and then transcode foo as desired
[07:19] <Erealz> dud that pastebinit app is cool
[07:19] <deper29> you generate a public and private key. Your public key goes on the client, and the private key stays on the server.
[07:19] <reisio> kingbeast_: that's only good for a feature film, though, for lots of small titles you'd want dvdbackup or dvdrip or something
[07:19] <Erealz> i just figured out the syntax simple i know but i just guessed it
[07:19] <ASHER1> someone please can help me about that?
[07:20] <Erealz> so proud of my self
[07:20] <Erealz> and thanks for the help pro
[07:20] <Erealz> i know it a small thing
[07:20] <Erealz> but
[07:20] <reisio> ASHER1: what's up?
[07:20] <Erealz> it very much apreciated
[07:21] <deper29> Erealz: no problem :)
[07:21] <ASHER1> good i need please help about VNC Viewer 4
[07:21] <ASHER1> hello i need please help about vnc log how i can see history if someone connect in my ubuntu from vnc?
[07:21] <ASHER1> how i can see from ubuntu log how its connect
[07:21] <ASHER1> like see ip
[07:21] <kingbeast_> nvr mnd I'll just use handbrake
[07:22] <deper29> parad0xx_: does it just not show up in nautilus?
[07:22] <reisio> ASHER1: if there's an extant log, it'd be in /var/log/, otherwise you might have to configure logging
[07:22] <ASHER1> ok
[07:23] <ASHER1> but i can see from there ip ?
[07:23] <parad0xx_> I'm sorry, what is nautilus?  I know very little about *nix
[07:23] <ASHER1> if someone inside to my system then i see information?
[07:23] <k1l_> parad0xx: its the file-manager
[07:23] <deper29> parad0xx_: nautilus is just the file manager.
[07:23] <parad0xx_> yes, I see nothing in the file manager
[07:24] <reisio> ASHER1: you can configure such a thing, sure
[07:24] <deper29> parad0xx_: can you pastebin 'fdisk -l'?
[07:24] <ASHER1> what configure? you can please explain to me what i need to do for i can see history how connect from VNC Viewer
[07:28] <ASHER1> someone please help to me i try to find help about look history connect from VNC Viewer  remote desktop someone maybe to know about this?
[07:30] <abd-allah> hey ! my ubuntu 12.04 LTS can't find my speakers or headphones as output devices so I've no control over sound settings. What to do?
[07:31] <abd-allah> help me. Pls................
[07:32] <limace255> abd-allah: try to install/launch alsamixer
[07:32] <limace255> good tool to see what is available, but quite clear
[07:33] <limace255> depending on what you use, pavucontrol is helpful too
[07:33] <abd-allah> limace255: how?
[07:34] <limace255> apt-get install alsamixer, or
[07:34] <limace255> aptitude install alsamixer, or
[07:34] <limace255> launch synaptic, or any package manager
[07:36] <Rooey> hey peeps! 12.04 here too, with gnome shell. been using scangearmp with canon 2160 printer. now trying to install it for a canon mp640. it's .deb installed with ubuntu software centre
[07:36] <Rooey> *scangearmp-mp640series_1.40-1_i386.deb
[07:37] <Rooey> i see lucid users had used getlibs
[07:40] <TheyTookErJobs> I really wish I could just get ubuntu installed so I can start learning to use it instead of fighting just getting it running :(
[07:41] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: the fight is the learning :)
[07:41] <deper29> what are you running into now?
[07:41] <TheyTookErJobs> Same thing, the install get's frozen choosing the timezone
[07:41]  * xmetal agrees with deper
[07:41] <xmetal> :)
[07:41] <nikolam> hi, why packages.ubuntu.com display package names in a form 'Package <packagename> details' . It is rather annoying not to se package name at the firs place in line
[07:42] <nikolam> I visually need a lot time to read them
[07:42] <TheyTookErJobs> I've wiped the drive, wiped the gpt and mbr, tried to have it automatically partition, manually partitioned, put nomodeset on turned on the achi flag
[07:42] <xmetal> sounds like a bad burn/download (whatever) or hardware problems on the PC your trying to install on
[07:42] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: does the install complete at least?
[07:42] <TheyTookErJobs> nope. I just used this same burn to install it on my laptop just fine
[07:43] <deper29> I feel like I had this problem when I started using ubuntu
[07:44] <xmetal> had issues with mint 15 here (had to use nomodeset on desktop) ... same PC here mint 14 was fine
[07:44] <xmetal> but nomodeset did help
[07:44] <TheyTookErJobs> When I log at the /var/log/installer/debug I get Error opening file for reading: Permission denied, three invalid socket 15's, and a ton of warnings for nvidia driver
[07:44] <xmetal> alotof the issues are "cross-distro" if yoiu ask me
[07:44] <TheyTookErJobs> no :(
[07:44] <TheyTookErJobs> I set nomodeset = same thing
[07:44] <abd-allah> my default sound settings is not working on my ubuntu 12.04 LTS.It does not find any output device. .HOw to fix it.???
[07:45] <xmetal> i have never seen that before
[07:46] <Rooey> abd-allah: using a sound card?
[07:46] <TheyTookErJobs> I've gotten to the point of making a craigslist add offering $20/hr to help install and configure everything. I have been trying for months now every single day.
[07:46] <abd-allah> Rooey: No . It's integrated with motherboard on PC.
[07:47] <TheyTookErJobs> It's either power issues or install issues or this or that hah
[07:47] <TheyTookErJobs> I really don't think linux works ;\\
[07:47] <Rooey> "for months now every single day" i don't think you work
[07:48] <TheyTookErJobs> I do. I have just spent all my time off after work on it
[07:48] <reisio> TheyTookErJobs: find a LUG
[07:48] <Rooey> hehe ok
[07:48] <TheyTookErJobs> which is why I am so fustrated by it :(
[07:49] <Rooey> i installed 10.10 i think next to xp. have been upgrading til 12.04 so far
[07:49] <ASHER1> someone please help to me i try to find help about look history connect from VNC Viewer  remote desktop someone maybe to know about this?
[07:50] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: pay someone $20/hr to fix it? that is unacceptable. Let's fix this
[07:50] <reisio> it's not really
[07:50] <reisio> someone was paid to install the OS his computer came with
[07:51] <ianmac1> deper29, That's the Linux spirit!
[07:51] <deper29> reisio: ^
[07:51] <deper29> this
[07:51] <TheyTookErJobs> it's true. I see something on the web about removing ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[07:51] <TheyTookErJobs> buttonctl
[07:51] <reisio> it can be both :)
[07:52] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: so it stops as soon as you get to choose the timezone?
[07:52] <TheyTookErJobs> Yes Sir.
[07:52] <reisio> ASHER1: ls ~/.vnc/*.log
[07:53] <ASHER1> thanls
[07:53] <reisio> ASHER1: oh that's probably errors
[07:53] <ASHER1> thanks
[07:54] <ASHER1> cannot access /root/.vnc/*.log: No such file or directory
[07:54] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: argh, I can't remember what I did to fix that. I remember having that issue with 11.10, but I just gave up on the install and went with 10.04 at the time
[07:55] <ASHER1> reisio
[07:55] <deper29> so I never really fixed it. I think it was hardware?
[07:55] <ASHER1> how i can go there?
[07:56] <reisio> ASHER1: /home/foo/.vnc/
[07:57] <ASHER1> :\ not work
[07:57] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: nomodeset didn't fix it?
[07:57] <ASHER1> ash: /home/asher/vnc/: No such file or directory
[07:57] <TheyTookErJobs> It's weird because it is not actually frozen. I can move the mouse and select different timezones but the screen will not go on
[07:57] <TheyTookErJobs> the curser is just rotating
[07:57] <TheyTookErJobs> nomodeset did not fix it
[07:58] <reisio> TheyTookErJobs: try the minimalcd
[07:58] <deper29> !minimal
[07:58] <deper29> yeah, that could be a solution actually
[07:59] <TheyTookErJobs> It's the same exact problem in this thread but no answer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1968722.html
[08:00] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56451/installer-hangs-get-stuck-at-where-are-you
[08:00] <deper29> does that work?
[08:00] <deper29> it seems too easy...
[08:01] <TheyTookErJobs> lol if this works....
[08:01] <TheyTookErJobs> one moment
[08:02] <TheyTookErJobs> gosh my desktop is so dusty
[08:02] <TheyTookErJobs> I need an aircompressor, can in a bottle is so expensive
[08:02] <frdmn> hello
[08:03] <TheyTookErJobs> Hi frdmn
[08:03] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: if you go to Costco they have aircans 6 for $20
[08:03] <deper29> not a bad price
[08:03] <TheyTookErJobs> I did notice that kubuntu is not choosing to make a swap are.a This might be b/c I have 24gigs of ram but.... I tried making one manually and same thing
[08:03] <TheyTookErJobs> Yeah.... I need to find someone with a costco card then hah
[08:03] <deper29> aircans double up as a spray bottle for a cat if they are up to no good too
[08:04] <TheyTookErJobs> no deper, same thing :( frozen on where are you
[08:04] <deper29> dammit
[08:04] <deper29> !language | deper29
[08:05] <deper29> :P
[08:05] <TheyTookErJobs> lol
[08:05] <ianmac1> maybe it just can't find you. are you hiding on purpose?
[08:05]  * ianmac1 runs
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> I am actually :'(
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> but kubuntu doesn't have to know that
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> it's just so weird. It installed so perfectly on my laptop
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> not so much on the desktop
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> How am I suppose to hack the planet if I can't get it installed hrm?
[08:07] <ianmac1> I'd be willing to bet it's a hardware issue
[08:07] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: I see another solution. Some people are switching their bios setting from ahci to raid. It installs, then they switch it back
[08:07] <deper29> seems like a nasty hack
[08:07] <deper29> but if it works
[08:07] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm, I did switch it from ahci to ide
[08:07] <TheyTookErJobs> but have not tried raid
[08:08] <Rooey> have u tried removing some of the 24gig ram?
[08:08] <frdmn> I have a problem while updating aptitude, yesterday I noticed I had a lot of packages to update so I updated the sources and issued an upgrade, this failed with the following error messages: http://hastebin.com/ritayecote
[08:09] <frdmn> its a productive customer system and I cant install any package right now
[08:09] <TheyTookErJobs> I am going to try the 13.10 installation. I thought that's what I've been using but just noticed it's 12.04 which I would prefer but...
[08:10] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs:
[08:10] <deper29> dammit
[08:10] <deper29> this is a good way to debug
[08:10] <TheyTookErJobs> It probably wouldn't hurt to do a memtest Rooey. I was getting several errors with Ubuntu 13.10. Not any with 12.04 though so I chalked it up to just being a beta
[08:11] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: boot up the kubuntu liveusb, click "try kubuntu"
[08:11] <TheyTookErJobs> erm, give me a minute deper. Memtest is running and I'm going to go make some tea :) Thank you so much for your help btw! I really REALLY appreciate it.  If it freezes, you should still be able to access terminal and get some logs :)
[08:13] <TheyTookErJobs> frdmn, I am afraid that's way out of my own ballpark :(
[08:13] <JOhnnyDepp> how can I fix it and make the full harddsik my /home folder?
[08:13] <TheyTookErJobs> I've been getting to the terminal by doing ctrl+alt+f2 and getting logs. That's how I got the permission denied error
[08:16] <TheyTookErJobs> J0hnny, just wanted to let you know I am not ignoring you. I am just a newbie myself
[08:16] <JOhnnyDepp> :(
[08:16] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: ahh, I see. I did not know you had logs :'(
[08:17] <TheyTookErJobs> 00:44:37] <TheyTookErJobs> When I log at the /var/log/installer/debug I get Error opening file for reading: Permission denied, three invalid socket 15's, and a ton of warnings for nvidia driver
[08:17] <TheyTookErJobs> log=tired for look
[08:17] <JOhnnyDepp> should i use ntfs for compatibility with windows, or is ext2/3/4 sooo much better?
[08:18] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: try the minimal cd then
[08:18] <deper29> I want to get linux working on your computre
[08:18] <jnhghy> J0hnnyDepp: I use ntfs and works as expected...
[08:18] <JOhnnyDepp> okk
[08:19] <TheyTookErJobs> I'll wait until I can get 13.10 on a usb stick but it's a 20 minute download sooo break time ;)
[08:19] <mee_> helff
[08:19] <TheyTookErJobs> ugh my cpu fan needs replaced and is cherping too. I'm about to shoot it
[08:19] <mee_> ;/whois mee_
[08:20] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: I don't know how much longer I can stay awake :/
[08:21] <deper29> I suppose if I get up and go download battlefield 4, I can stay awake as long as I want :D
[08:21] <TheyTookErJobs> No worries deper, I'll be back on tomorrow trying to figure it out again I'm sure :)
[08:21] <TheyTookErJobs> Atleast I made a big breakthough on my laptop today
[08:21] <TheyTookErJobs> installed kubuntu and the power options work! dim screen and battery reporting
[08:21] <deper29> nice :D
[08:21] <TheyTookErJobs> which I have been battling with ubuntu. Ubuntu was destroying my battery
[08:21] <deper29> I have dual battery
[08:22] <TheyTookErJobs> How the heck does that work?
[08:22] <deper29> but kde doesn't play properly with that sometimes :(
[08:22] <deper29> I have a second slice battery
[08:22] <deper29> attaches under the laptop
[08:22] <TheyTookErJobs> wow that's gotta make it heavy
[08:22] <siwica> I have just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo G700 machine with nvidia GPU. However I just get the text mode and can't start unity. When I run unity I get "WARNING: no DISPLAY variable set, setting it to :0". Running "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" gives "Error: unable to open display".
[08:22] <deper29> yeah, but it's a thinkpad, so it's already heavy kind of :P
[08:22] <siwica> Any hints on how to get a GUI?
[08:22] <deper29> and it's worth not having to plug the thing in ever
[08:23] <JOhnnyDepp> lol i have 2 car batteries duct taped to my netbook very portable
[08:23] <TheyTookErJobs> heh my laptop has 4 processors each with hypervisors so 8 cores plus sli so it drains battery like nothing
[08:23] <TheyTookErJobs> :P J0hnny
[08:23] <deper29> siwica: do you run 'sudo service lightdm start'?
[08:24] <siwica> deper29: what does it do?
[08:24] <deper29> siwica: it's how you start your desktop manager
[08:24] <TheyTookErJobs> heh with my PC I ordered 16gigs of ram from amazon and they sent me an entire box of 16gb sticks. I returned it but when I opened it I was like 'omg'
[08:24] <TheyTookErJobs> It was over 300gb of memory
[08:24] <pers3us> siwica: Is it a fresh install, or were you trying to play with Graphics Drivers
[08:24] <deper29> and that ^
[08:26] <siwica> pers3us: fresh install, although I did install nvidia-current and one other driver, none of them helped though
[08:26] <deper29> siwica: did you disable nouveau when you did that?
[08:26] <pers3us> siwica: So the desktop never came up?
[08:27] <siwica> pers3us: right! pressing STRG+ALT+F7 just gives a black screen with a black cursor
[08:27] <pers3us> deper29: When you install nvidia driver it automatically disables nouveau.
[08:28] <deper29> pers3us: does it? I'm out of the loop then. I thought you had to disable nouveau
[08:28] <pers3us> siwica: So you installed it using command line. hmm... This sounds like a problem with xorg.
[08:28] <pers3us> do one thing, kill Xorg. and use startx from tty1 and see what the error is
[08:28] <deper29> could you pastebin your xorg log?
[08:28] <siwica> pers3us: I installed it having a gui. (could only run it with nomodeset active)
[08:29] <TheyTookErJobs> What kind of video card siwica?
[08:29] <pers3us> nvidia
[08:29] <TheyTookErJobs> right, but which one? :)
[08:30] <TheyTookErJobs> the nomodeset will get you back to graphical. When I was running nvidia if I tried to install the newest drivers I got a blank black screen
[08:30] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: Its nothing fancy, an entry level gpu
[08:30] <siwica> I am running it using nomodeset right now
[08:30] <siwica> still no gui
[08:30] <deper29> siwica: can you pastebin your xorg log?
[08:31] <siwica> deper29: hm, i am quite new to linux, have to figure out, how to put it on a usb stick using the command line
[08:31] <deper29> siwica: ctrl + alt + f1 into tty1
[08:32] <deper29> 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[08:32] <TheyTookErJobs> siwica, also when you choose the other kernel does it do the same thing?
[08:32] <siwica> its not hooked up to the internet unfortunately. I am at uni right now and cant log in into vpn using the command line
[08:33] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: siwica: I guess your problem can be resolved if you try other drivers for nvidia
[08:33] <siwica> what does choosing the other kernel mean?
[08:33] <deper29> 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[08:33] <pers3us> your graphics card is GT720M
[08:33] <siwica> yes, graphic card is correct!
[08:33] <pers3us> siwica: IIRC, the compatible version of propriety driver is 314
[08:35] <pers3us> siwica: So a quick google search shows its version 319. I don't know if it is there in repository, check it out and install that. It should fix the ui problem
[08:35] <siwica> pers3us: i actually thought i had done this. any way to find out which driver is currently active?
[08:37] <pers3us> siwica: having wrong driver can cause the problem you are facing. And I am not sure how you can see currently installed nvidia driver, you can probably do dpkg --get-selections |grep nvidia and have a look there, but I am not sure
[08:38] <JOhnnyDepp> heeelp....   my /etc/hostname file is completely messed up, how should it look like normally?  starting first line with <IP_ADDRESS> localhost ???
[08:38] <TheyTookErJobs> deper, the 13.10 installer disk is being created right meow
[08:38] <TheyTookErJobs> If your still awake :)
[08:39] <pers3us> JOhnnyDepp: /etc/hostname or /etc/hosts
[08:39] <TheyTookErJobs> nah your hostname file should just be your machine name
[08:39] <TheyTookErJobs> atleast that's it on mine
[08:39] <pers3us> JOhnnyDepp: /etc/hostname should have machine name
[08:39] <TheyTookErJobs> ubuntu hostname is not the same as windows hosts :)
[08:39] <JOhnnyDepp> ah ok nothing else?
[08:40] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: I am for now :P
[08:40] <siwica> pers3us: ok, this shows nvidia-304 and nvidia-settings-304
[08:40] <pers3us> JOhnnyDepp: no
[08:40] <JOhnnyDepp> but i get error cannot resolve hostname when using sudo
[08:40] <siwica> pers3us: this is probably too old?
[08:40] <pers3us> siwica: Okay, so i guess this could be a problem. Again, I am not sure, just speculating.
[08:40]  * deper29 compiles a 3.12 kernel
[08:40] <JOhnnyDepp> can I delete hostname and restart to get it normal again?
[08:41] <siwica> pers3us: ok, thanks! I will try this when I am home.
[08:41] <pers3us> siwica: Uninstall all nvidia drivers and install the latest one, i guess, the latest one is 319 if not 319, then 325 or 310
[08:41] <siwica> pers3us: what would be the way to uninstall them?
[08:42] <pers3us> siwica: I had 310 it worked fine. To uninstall sudo apt-get remove <package>  doesn't that work?
[08:43] <st0rm> JOhnnyDepp: use the hostname command
[08:43] <pers3us> siwica: when you will run an install it will call update-alternative which should fix all other problems. (Again I am not sure :) )
[08:43] <parapan> hi fellows > how do I "identity" a specific ppa to add to the source code ???
[08:43] <TheyTookErJobs> ugh someday I'll grow up to compile my own kernel
[08:43] <siwica> pers3us: ok, thanks! I have a lecture right now, but ill try this when being home
[08:44] <pers3us> siwica: sure np! :)
[08:44] <TheyTookErJobs> pers3us, do you use ati?
[08:44] <siwica> pers3us: I hope the new driver will do the job. Have a good day!
[08:44] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: nah, two of my devices have intel, and one of them has nvidia
[08:45] <Oxymoron> Hi, I need to ask, does someone looking into system problem regarding wpa_supplicant, debService/config.dat and lightdm? Pretty important bugs which need to be fixed. I have send a lot of error reports, but nothing happens. My desktop freeze once in a while, wifi hangs and problem sometimes to install new packages with apt and debian handler.
[08:45] <Oxymoron> Problem occured after upgrading to 13.10 ....
[08:45] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm. When I was running ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop the nvidia 319 was crashing it. I had to downgrade it to get it to work. So many varients in linux hah
[08:46] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: Ya, same happened to me while running Arch. 319 has 3 or 4 versions though.
[08:46] <deper29> nvidia 331 just came out
[08:46] <deper29> supports 3.12 kernel
[08:46] <deper29> 331.20
[08:47] <TheyTookErJobs> How do you opt out of kernel updates if they are going to break things until drivers catch up?
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> Oxymoron, File bugs so you get an answer whether valid, your experiences maybe isolated to a borked upgrade.
[08:47] <pers3us> deper29: lol, they keep on updating these releases, not all of them are stable. I would rather stick with nouveau.
[08:47] <ASHER1> why i cant see log vnc?
[08:47] <ASHER1> i doing everything and i not see nothing
[08:47] <pers3us> Oxymoron: IIRC, (not from ubuntu dev team) there was a but related to wpa_supplicant, dunno what happened to it. Moreover, I don't think any devs are around atm.
[08:48] <deper29> pers3us: I'd totally do nouveau if they gave near the performance of nvidia proprietary
[08:48] <parapan> hi fellows > does someone upgraded to evolution 3.10.1 in ubuntu 12.04 LTS ????
[08:49] <pers3us> deper29: Well, if you play games, nouveau isn't your answer. You will have to tweak around with nvidia propriety. But for everything else, I never had problems with nouveau
[08:49] <pers3us> parapan: i use mutt. Sorry! :)
[08:49] <deper29> pers3us: I play games :P Even for extra effects nouveau didn't cut it
[08:49] <deper29> which is too bad
[08:49] <DarthDepa> Hi guys :) I've a problem with GRUB update on Ubuntu 13.10... On My HDD there are: Ubuntu 13.10, Debian 6.0.8, BackTrack 5R2 and Winzozz... When, on Ubuntu, a grub-update is needed, at restart I can't see "Ubuntu" on the menu... I have to re-install grub, from another OS (using chroot on Ubuntu partition)
[08:49] <pers3us> deper29: then you don't have a choice! :D
[08:50] <parapan> pers3us: I need evolution for it's EWS integration with Microsoft exchange ....
[08:50] <jimmy__> Hello, my ubuntu 12.04 can't connect to the vpn (pptpd) I just set up on our server. The windows pc of my collegue can. What could cause this.
[08:50] <jimmy__> ?
[08:50] <bexline> it is possible to play terraria on linux
[08:50] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, What is the os at the top of the grub menu?
[08:50] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: It may be Ubuntu... If Ubuntu isn't on GRUB menu, is BackTrack
[08:51] <deper29> pers3us: I know :(
[08:51] <pers3us> parapan: Thunderbird had that right? Exchange integration
[08:51] <DarthDepa> pers3us: with a plugin
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, Then backtrack has the grub in the mbr, you can change whatever one you want to control grub from its desktop.
[08:51] <TheyTookErJobs> Okay deper, let's see if 13.10 makes any difference
[08:51] <pers3us> deper29: Are you on this IRC often? This gets spammed of questions.
[08:52] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: but I run "grub2-install" on Ubuntu and get no errors
[08:52] <pers3us> parapan: as DarthDepa  said, using a plugin you can have the same functionality on Thunderbird. About your question, I have no idea.
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, it would be sudo grub-install /dev/sdX ; sudo update-grub the X is the HD
[08:53] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Did you do update-grub?
[08:53] <TheyTookErJobs> heh deper, the 13.10 kubuntu live-cd doesn't even boot....
[08:53] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: yes :)
[08:53] <TheyTookErJobs> freezes at the logo screen
[08:53] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Okay, that is weird.
[08:53] <parapan> pers3us: don't know about thunderbird ....I am addicited to evolution :D
[08:54] <pers3us> DarthDepa: what was the output of update-grub?
[08:54] <DarthDepa> pers3us: lol :) infact...
[08:55] <deper29> pers3us: lately I've been on here often. Why?
[08:55] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: does it make it to grub?!
[08:55] <pers3us> deper29: Don't you find it overwhelming
[08:55] <TheyTookErJobs> I am loading it with nomodeset
[08:55] <TheyTookErJobs> looks like it's loading atleast...
[08:56] <pers3us> deper29: This is my first few hours on this IRC. :D i am mostly on #go-nuts
[08:56] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: for example: yesterday I had some ubuntu updates... I run aptitude and installed them (one, is grub)... at reboot, I couldn't see Ubuntu... So, I run BackTrack to re-install Grub on Ubuntu and all works fine
[08:56] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: keep us posted :D
[08:56] <DarthDepa> pers3us: wait... I run it again, now...
[08:56] <parapan> what is the meaning of this waoring ? Installing this PPA on 13.04 (Raring) will switch your system to use logind instead of consolekit. ... ????
[08:56] <deper29> pers3us: I find this channel a bit overwhelming sometimes. I'm usually in #gentoo
[08:57] <pers3us> deper29: Wow, getoo user! :)
[08:57] <deper29> :)
[08:57] <deper29> I don't get the "wow" part though :P
[08:57] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: I have "update-grub" and "update-grub2"... Which is the correct one??
[08:57] <pers3us> deper29: I always wanted to try gentoo, but the learning curve and time held me back.
[08:58] <pers3us> update-grub
[08:58] <JOhnnyDepp> damnit, why does my stupid harddsik not mount, i enter this kube in fstab:    /dev/sdd1	/BigHDD	ntfs	defaults	0	0
[08:58] <deper29> pers3us: it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be
[08:58] <JOhnnyDepp> i mean line not kube wtf
[08:59] <s_faraday> hi all
[08:59] <pers3us> deper29: Okay then, some day I will definately try. :)
[08:59] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375218/
[08:59] <s_faraday> why this command cd simspark/trunk/spark
[08:59] <JOhnnyDepp> are these tabs or spaces in fstab?
[08:59] <s_faraday> tells me No such file or directory
[08:59] <s_faraday> this directory already exist
[08:59] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Well, i can't read the language but seeing the general response, it should work.
[09:00] <pers3us> try rebooting
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, YOu ned to read the grub commands for each linux install debian I believe is grub2 ubuntu is not but wint error. Honestly I think your a bit lost with grub controls.
[09:00] <hahmed> JOhnnyDepp: doesn't matter both tabs/spaces are accepted
[09:00] <JOhnnyDepp> should I write NTFS in caps?
[09:00] <deper29> pers3us: just took a bit of reading.  Requires regular maintenance though
[09:00] <JOhnnyDepp> something must be wrong
[09:00] <deper29> but that's why I like it
[09:00] <hahmed> JOhnnyDepp: ntfs is in lowercase
[09:00] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: anything?
[09:00] <TheyTookErJobs> nope
[09:01] <pers3us> deper29: Oh, what do you mean requires regular maintainence? I thought Gentoo was more like install and then forget, it will work perfect for rest of your life.
[09:01] <TheyTookErJobs> atleast with 12.04 I could get to the install. This one just freezes at the logo screen
[09:01] <Rooey> Synaptic Package Manager shows scangearmp-mp640series 1.40-1 as "installed". Have tried to launch via Terminal. any ideas?
[09:01] <TheyTookErJobs> mouse still moves though
[09:01] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: I really don't know... :(
[09:01] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: umm, try booting in verbose.
[09:01] <Guest59638> ;)
[09:02] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Did you restart? Your grub install looks fine to me.
[09:02] <deper29> pers3us: haha, I wish :P
[09:02] <TheyTookErJobs> what do these options mean acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nodmraid, nomodeset
[09:02] <TheyTookErJobs> should I just check them all and go into it? hah
[09:03] <pers3us> deper29: what is TheyTookErJobs trying to do?
[09:03] <TheyTookErJobs> Get Kubuntu to install on my PC
[09:03] <pers3us> Ah
[09:03] <DarthDepa> pers3us: I can't restart now... But I will check... The problem is that I runned this procedure a lot of time and always, when automated grub-update start, I lose Ubuntu... :(
[09:04] <pers3us> So what happens.
[09:04] <TheyTookErJobs> I have been trying every night for over a month to get a solid distribution to work.
[09:04] <pers3us> DarthDepa: you ran with grub-install and then update-grub before?
[09:04] <TheyTookErJobs> When I boot up with 13.10 now it loads the Kbuntu screen and the dots cycle on the bottom but nothing else
[09:04] <DarthDepa> pers3us: yes... always
[09:06] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Okay, when you are ready to reboot, do it again and paste both the outputs and /boot/grub/grub.cfg file.
[09:06] <acmiyaguchi> hey, I was wondering if I could install a package from a 13.10 repo selectively on my 12.04 lts system?
[09:06] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: That is why I said boot in verbose mode, and see what the error is
[09:06] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs:  Or where it is stuck
[09:06] <TheyTookErJobs> I mashed a bunch of buttons and got into an install...
[09:07] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: Oh, the Live CD is not booting?
[09:07] <TheyTookErJobs> right
[09:07] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: you didn't do the minimal, you went full ubuntu?
[09:07] <deper29> you'll likely get the same error
[09:08] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: Okay, did you use unetbootin to build the live cd?
[09:08] <pers3us> or dd?
[09:08] <st0rm> acmiyaguchi: the dependencies will probably be wrong
[09:08] <TheyTookErJobs> deper, I didn't see any options for a minimal with ku
[09:09] <poorlinuxnoog> is it allowed to mount harddisk like this (in home folder):      /dev/sdd1	~/BigHDD	ntfs	defaults	0	0
[09:09] <TheyTookErJobs> I used whatever poorlinuxnoog: startup boot disk is in ubuntu
[09:09] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: deper29 There isn't one in Ubuntu. In arch they have a package called kde-base
[09:09] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: either way, is the ubuntu one working?
[09:09] <poorlinuxnoog> talking to me TheyTookErJobs ??
[09:09] <deper29> pers3us: ubuntu has a minimal
[09:09] <pers3us> deper29: Really?
[09:09] <deper29> !minimal
[09:10] <futurestack> is there an IRC for the ubuntu forums specifically?
[09:10] <deper29> pers3us: if you use arch, gentoo is the same difficulty
[09:10] <pers3us> deper29: Oh, no. I am not talking about that. KDE minimal package installation. not the minimal disk
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> futurestack, #ubuntuforums
[09:10] <futurestack> danke
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> shane
[09:10] <deper29> pers3us: ahh, I see. I was talking minimal disk. He's having trouble installing
[09:10] <pers3us> deper29: Really. :O Why didn't I try it before then.
[09:11] <poorlinuxnoog> can i automount hdd in fstab too ~/hdd  ?
[09:11] <pers3us> deper29: Actually minimal disk will cause more problems for him.
[09:11] <pers3us> deper29:  A, he will have to download everything, B, he will have same problems as the full install, as they are pretty much the same.
[09:12] <pers3us> poorlinuxnoog: yes you can
[09:12] <s_faraday> hi
[09:12] <s_faraday> why I see this message? CMake Error: The source directory "/home/faraday/simpark/trunk" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.
[09:12] <s_faraday> Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
[09:12] <allu2> Hey, could someone point me on how to find if a certain bug is already reported?
[09:13] <pers3us> s_faraday: Shouldn't you be asking this to the developer.
[09:13] <deper29> pers3us: he won't have the same problems if we can at least get things installed.
[09:13] <pers3us> deper29: hmm...
[09:13] <pers3us> deper29: Where is he stuck?
[09:13] <allu2> when I log in Ubuntu 13.10 shows my default layout icon at the layout switcher (FI) but in reality the layout is still US till i go to the menu and select FI again
[09:13] <deper29> pers3us: it hangs when he has to choose his timezone
[09:14] <s_faraday> pers3us: what?
[09:14] <deper29> or, uh, TheyTookErJobs could be a female as well. Maybe I'm wrong when I say "he"
[09:14] <poorlinuxnoog> ok since im being ignored, i just tried it,   automounting to ~/HDD gives error during startup
[09:14] <TheyTookErJobs> I is a hes...
[09:14] <deper29> there we go
[09:14] <pers3us> s_faraday: you are trying to compile a package?  When I restart with the newest graphics driver, the OS wont start.  What can i type to save myself to boot in ?
[09:16] <bingo> ill have to write it down on paper
[09:17] <pers3us> s_faraday: I guess, you should ask the developer who created this package. I don't think we support compiling packages here. (But I am new, post your question again, may be someone will answer)
[09:17] <deper29> bingo: let me guess: nvidia?
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, I know nothing about uefi.
[09:17] <ball> hello
[09:17] <bingo> yes
[09:17] <tomboy64> s_faraday: does that svn have a web-frontend? can you give me the url?
[09:17] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: me too ahahahahah
[09:18] <pers3us> DarthDepa: What all os's you had?
[09:18] <allu2> bingo: on grub2 select the ubuntu you normally use, press e, search line with ro quiet and add behind it nomodeset noacpi and press ctrl+x
[09:18] <s_faraday> tomboy64: svn co https://svn.code.sf.net/p/simspark/svn/ simpark
[09:18] <DarthDepa> pers3us: what? :) Sorry... I didn't understand...
[09:18] <TheyTookErJobs> Now I am getting error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kubuntu" is owned by uid 999 instead of uid 0
[09:18] <deper29> bingo: when you boot, edit the grub line and add nomodeset
[09:18] <pers3us> i can see a backtrack, debian, ubuntu and windows7
[09:19] <DarthDepa> pers3us: yes... are all...
[09:19] <bingo> ty
[09:19] <pers3us> DarthDepa: They are all there in the menuentry, don't you see them in grub menu?
[09:19] <Matriks404> why Ubuntu still have outdated wine 1.4.1 ? lol
[09:19] <DarthDepa> pers3us: no, I see them in the grub's menu
[09:20] <DarthDepa> always...
[09:20] <pers3us> DarthDepa: So what is the problem again? What is not getting added?
[09:20] <DarthDepa> pers3us: Ubuntu :) The one that may have MBR :)
[09:20] <pers3us> DarthDepa: You aren't able to boot into one? or Ubuntu is not coming in the grub  menu?
[09:20] <deper29> s_faraday: where did you get the package?
[09:21] <DarthDepa> Ubuntu is not present on grub's menu
[09:21] <pers3us> DarthDepa: its there right, menuentry "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.6 (su /dev/sda8)"
[09:21] <DarthDepa> pers3us: no... /dev/sda8 is BackTrack
[09:22] <DarthDepa> pers3us: Ubuntu 13.10 is on /dev/sda6
[09:22] <s_faraday> deper29: svn co https://svn.code.sf.net/p/simspark/svn/ simpark
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: if you run:   sudo update-grub   do you see the entries added?
[09:22] <s_faraday> at Home/simspark
[09:22] <pers3us> DarthDepa: This is weird.
[09:22] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: yes :) But not Ubuntu 13.10
[09:22] <allu2> Matriks404: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=saucy
[09:22] <deper29> s_faraday: let me try this. You're just trying to compile, yes?
[09:23] <tomboy64> s_faraday: go into the subdirectories. you need to compile the components individually, it seems. start with spark. but unless you really are on an exotic configuration, i'd recommend using the provided packages.
[09:24] <s_faraday> deper29: yes
[09:24] <TheyTookErJobs> Going to try one more thing before going to bed. Burning it to a DVD
[09:24] <deper29> theas opposed to usb?
[09:24] <poorlinuxnoog> goshdarnit, now I mounted my  harddisk and it says permission denied when i want to copy to it
[09:24] <s_faraday> tomboy64: there is no package for ubuntu 13.04
[09:25] <s_faraday> they are for 12
[09:25] <pers3us> DarthDepa: I saw your update-grub again, I don't see /dev/sda6 on os-prober response.
[09:25] <TheyTookErJobs> yeah
[09:25] <DarthDepa> pers3us: infact :(
[09:25] <TheyTookErJobs> I need more ram on my laptop... 8gb is just not enough hah
[09:25] <TheyTookErJobs> give me MAX or give me death
[09:26] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Google around, for reasons why an OS is being picked up by os-prober
[09:26] <pers3us> DarthDepa: I will too.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> TheyTookErJobs: may as well, average RAM is cheap
[09:26] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: yeah, I got 16 geebees on my laptop. 10GB tmpfs...
[09:26] <deper29> lol
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> poorlinuxnoog: what file system is the partition?
[09:26] <TheyTookErJobs> I will Action, right after I build myself a treadmill desk
[09:26] <DarthDepa> pers3us: thanks .)
[09:26] <poorlinuxnoog> its ntfs ActionParsnip
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> poorlinuxnoog: is it USB based?
[09:27] <anurag> HIafcose
[09:27] <poorlinuxnoog> no its SATA
[09:27] <anurag> hi
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> poorlinuxnoog: is teh NTFS healthy? When did you last chkdsk it?
[09:27] <poorlinuxnoog> ActionParsnip: never cause i just bought it :D
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> poorlinuxnoog: I'd run a quick check in Windows, may help
[09:28] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Umm, after Installing ubuntu did you try to install grub from any other OSes
[09:28] <poorlinuxnoog> nah i'd rather risk it, not much time
[09:28] <pers3us> DarthDepa: You can do the same from Debian. Does that work?
[09:28] <ZeThomas> hello, I'm having trouble getting this whole optimus-thing going on my laptop (intel 4000 and geforce 740m); I installed bumblebee, and the nvidia drivers, but i get: primus: fatal: broken GLX on main X display
[09:29] <poorlinuxnoog> ActionParsnip: dont i have to do some linux permission stup in some remote hidden txt files?
[09:29] <deper29> ugh, kde takes so long to build and update. I'm going to bed to let it do its thing.
[09:29] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: best of luck on the install. I'll be back in twelve hours
[09:29] <DarthDepa> pers3us: Ubuntu is the last one that I installed... :( If I run "grub-install" from Debian, It works but I can't see Windows and Ubuntu 13.10
[09:30] <deper29> good night, all
[09:30] <TheyTookErJobs> thanks for your help deper. I haven't made up my mind if I am going to work or not but I will be on after work at the worse
[09:30] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: no problem! hopefully you can get it installed. if not, a fresh mind tomorrow might be best :)
[09:30] <pers3us> DarthDepa: This gets weirder and weirder, It actually doesn't depend on the order of your installation. If you run grub-install at any point, it will make menu entry for all the OSes
[09:31] <deper29> in the meantime, I'll hope I don't break my system upgrading
[09:31] <deper29> *updating
[09:32] <DarthDepa> pers3us: infact... Maybe something in Ubuntu 13.10 is wrong?
[09:32] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Doesn't look like.
[09:33] <pers3us> Can you give this thing a try. Bactrack installs grub for all oses except fro ubuntu right?
[09:33] <pers3us> So install grub on /dev/sda6 from ubuntu
[09:33] <pers3us> not /dev/sda
[09:33] <pers3us> then run update-grub in backtack, and see if this works.
[09:34] <pers3us> I faced a similar problem, long time back.
[09:34] <s_faraday> deper29: tomboy64 I fix it and could cmake
[09:34] <pers3us> DarthDepa: You got that?
[09:34] <s_faraday> but have this error
[09:34] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: if there's a simpark package for 12.04, get the source for the package and adapt it to compile on 13.10
[09:34] <s_faraday> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:
[09:35] <DarthDepa> pers3us: install grub on /dev/sda6?
[09:35] <pers3us> ya
[09:35] <cfhowlett> !grub
[09:35] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: I have that how can I adapt that?
[09:36] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: well, look up how to compile packages from source
[09:36] <DarthDepa> pers3us: but why run update-grub from BackTrack?
[09:36] <aeon-ltd>  /j bitcoin
[09:36] <DarthDepa> pers3us: I would use Ubuntu 13.10 GRUB
[09:36] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: I tryed that
[09:36] <aeon-ltd> sorry, added a space by mistake
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: tried:  sudo os-probe; sudo update-grub
[09:36] <s_faraday> it has so many errors and dependensy
[09:36] <s_faraday> :/
[09:36] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Whichever grub you are running at the moment, you should go to that distro and do an update
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: might be os-prober   (use TAB to autocomplete)
[09:36] <pers3us> after installing the grub on /dev/sad6
[09:37] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: "os-prober" find Windows, Backtrack, Debian but not Ubuntu 13.10 :(
[09:37] <pers3us> ActionParsnip: os-prober is actually part of grub-install isn't it
[09:37] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: yes, well, you need to install all the dependencies too
[09:38] <DarthDepa> pers3us: so I run "grub-install /dev/sda6" and "update-grub" on the same OS, in this case (Ubuntu 13.10)
[09:38] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Try what I said, It might work.
[09:38] <pers3us> DarthDepa: yes
[09:38] <pers3us> Then go to the OS which has grub right now, and run update-grub
[09:38] <DarthDepa> pers3us: Ok... :)
[09:40] <DarthDepa> pers3us: it tolds me that is not possible to proced because there are "blocklist"
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> pers3us: not 100% sure
[09:40] <pers3us> DarthDepa: umm, something is wrong somewhere! :(
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: could try grub-install from Ubuntu, use a chroot from Backtrack
[09:41] <pers3us> DarthDepa: I give up, sorry. I have to go now! ciao.
[09:41] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: and when I will on BackTrack?
[09:41] <DarthDepa> pers3us: thanks pers3us :) thanks a lot
[09:41] <DarthDepa> pers3us: have a nice day
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: thats not a question
[09:42] <poorlinuxnoob> if anyone knows rsync,   when i use the -h parameter it should give some text status output, but it doesn't why not??
[09:42] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: I will install grub from ubuntu and chroot on BackTrack... and after that? What I have to do when I will be inside BackTrack?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: Backtrack boots ok, right?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: boot to backtrack and chroot to the unbootable Ubuntu install, then run update-grub from there
[09:43] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: yes... I always do that... Fix my problem...
[09:44] <Hempathy> Hi all Virtual Box question
[09:45] <Hempathy> I've an official version of Win7 installed, plus same in VB, but it won't let me register VBversion, any ideas?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, sounds like a VB issue.  best ask them
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: what does "register VBversion" mean?
[09:47] <Hempathy> It claims it's not an official version on Windows when loaded in virtual box
[09:47] <t0by> Hello people. I've just installed Xubuntu 13.10, but hibernate is seemingly disabled from the guy out of the box (pm-hibernate works just fine). How do I reenable it? The various instructions I found around are for 12.04 and 13.04 and he wiki explicitly tells it won't work.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: have you registered windows and activated it online?
[09:47] <Hempathy> cfhowlett, cheers will do
[09:47] <parad0xx_> deper29: how do I pastebin?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> t0by: does the system have a make and model?
[09:48] <parad0xx_> sorry, got busy unexpectedly
[09:48] <parad0xx_> back now
[09:48] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, yeah on a dual boot, same version loaded on virtual box
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: but did you activate the virtualbox OS online?
[09:48] <Hempathy> not keen on using it at home, but useful to log onto work network
[09:49] <parad0xx_> fdisk -l shows nothing
[09:49] <parad0xx_> just returns a new prompt
[09:49] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, tried to but it asks if I've changed  / upgraded hardware... and I'm not keen on invalidating my hard install
[09:50] <DarthDepa> Thanks a lot to all of you :)
[09:50] <DarthDepa> I have to go :)
[09:50] <DarthDepa> Have a nice day :)
[09:50] <t0by> ActionParsnip: Thinkpad T61
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: maybe you cannot use the same license in a virtual system. I'd query it in ##windows
[09:50] <t0by> ActionParsnip: supported since forever, I think, and in fact pm-hibernate works just fine
[09:50] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, cheers will do
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: are you running windows as host and as guest?
[09:51] <makara> hi. I have an EC2 instance without DNS pointing to it. I want a memorable domain name. How can I set an alias for it?
[09:51] <fishcooker1> i have box behind the adsl modem how to remote it from internet?
[09:51] <fishcooker1> i have box behind the adsl modem how to remote it from internet?
[09:51] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, nah xfce host
[09:51] <t0by> fishcooker1: you need to set port forwarding on your modem. Refer to the modem's manual.
[09:51] <Hempathy> but I do boot into win7 when needed
[09:52] <makara> so instead of going "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I would go "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: i'd ask in ##windows regarding licensing. This is nothing to do with Ubuntu
[09:53] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, see if they're as helpful as here :) Thanks again
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: could always call microsoft, you are paying for support from them
[09:54] <makara> and without using external resolution like bit.ly or whatever. I need to ssh into this thing. Change in iptables?
[09:54] <parad0xx_> I installed ubuntu 12.04 today alongside xp pro, but in ubuntu I can't see my 2nd hard drive, xp still can see it.  fdisk -l returns nothing, how do I fix this?
[09:55] <parad0xx_> deper29 started to help me a few hours ago but I had to go quickly, sorry deper29
[09:55] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, true man, would you know if I'm allowed multiple installs on the same machine?
[09:56] <ljunggren> Hempathy, multiple installs at the same time?
[09:56] <t0by> Ah, seems like Hibernate in GUI is unsupported period due to change to logind.
[09:56] <Hempathy> ljunggren, yeah one hard install, other virtual Box... and I might have it on another personal laptop ;)
[09:56] <t0by> Stupid question: will hibernate in GUI EVER be fixed (I mean, is anybody working on it right now) or I should just wipe everything and install LTS?
[09:57] <Hempathy> ironic, you guys here are quicker answering mywin7 questions than the windows room :)
[09:57] <ljunggren> Hempathy, you want XP hard install .. then also in virtual box... in ubuntu?
[09:58] <excognac> t0by: i wish i could install lts xd
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: no idea matey. Ive completely missed Vista and Win7 so far, doing well
[09:58] <cfhowlett> t0by, if you NEED the latest/greatest shiny stuff and dont' mind a 9 month lifecycle then install the interim releases.  Otherwise LTS is the way to go.  IMO.
[09:58] <Hempathy> ljunggren, yeah win7 already both installed
[09:58] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, lucky you :)
[09:59] <Hempathy> I'll tackle it tomorrow, thanks for your time guys
[09:59] <zetheroo> is the trim feature for SSD's enabled by default in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:00] <StrangeNoises> no. add 'discard' to mount options in fstab after installation
[10:00] <minimec> zetheroo: Not at my knowledge. Add discard in /etc/fstab
[10:01] <zetheroo> ok
[10:01] <t0by> cfhowlett: thanks. No, I don't need the shiny stuff, I'm an ex-debian user. It's just that 13.10 is the thing pointed by the download link.
[10:01] <t0by> Oh, well, LTS fun tonight.
[10:01] <zetheroo> minimec: just checked my fstab file and discard was already there ...
[10:02] <minimec> zetheroo: Ok.
[10:02] <StrangeNoises> interesting
[10:02] <StrangeNoises> it didn't put it in by itself on my recent 13.10 install onto an ssd
[10:02] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375486/
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> yeah that's right; looks just like mine, except i had to put it in myself
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> wonder what the difference was so it knew
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> probably the model: a kingston v300 in my case
[10:03] <zetheroo> mine is corsair ... forget the model
[10:04] <cfhowlett> t0by, understood.  your choice but my stress level dropped to near zero once I adopted an LTS only policy.  Of course, I'm now getting a teeny bit antsy waiting for next 14.04
[10:04] <StrangeNoises> heh
[10:04] <StrangeNoises> some of us enjoy upgrading so much we do it months before the next release ;-)
[10:04] <StrangeNoises> desperate for some excitement in our lives i guess :-}
[10:04] <bingo> how can i change which OS default boots in LTS?
[10:05] <bingo> is there a GUI?
[10:05] <StrangeNoises> ubuntu versions get boring once they're actually out
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> bingo: do you dual boot Windows and Ubuntu and want Windows as default?
[10:05] <bingo> yes
[10:05] <bingo> yes please
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> bingo: let me get you the command
[10:05] <bingo> ty
[10:05] <bingo> cant seem to find the GUI in software center
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bingo: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bingo: why would you need a GUI?
[10:06] <bingo> cause i dont feel comfortable in terminal
[10:06] <bingo> and they used to offer one i guess, cant find it
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bingo: why not? I just gave you the EXACT command, so it's literally copying and pasting a command
[10:07] <bingo> ill do it
[10:07] <bingo> ty
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> bingo: why is that not 'comfortable'?
[10:07] <bingo> it is now :)
[10:07] <vsMS> I would like to install my 12.04 server based on LVM. I have two block devices /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. /dev/sda will only be used for /boot while /dev/sdb must be a complete pv without a partition. How is this possible?
[10:07] <zetheroo> I am waiting for the next LTS ;)
[10:07] <bingo> would you like to see what it spits out?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> bingo: i can imagine what it spits out
[10:07] <StrangeNoises> if you're going to use a linux or unix and you don't feel 'comfortable' at the commandline, you're going to miss out on so much
[10:08] <bingo> ActionParsnip, ty looks good
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> the number of the file dictates it's position in Grub, the Linux ones are number 10 so by putting it at 09, it will appear above the Linux entries
[10:08] <StrangeNoises> yes there's a bit of a steep learning curve, and yes, with modern linux/osx etc you can usually get by in other ways, but it's still worth the effort
[10:08] <bingo> i lso fixed my problem not being able to boot after using nvidia driver 319!
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> bingo: its extremely simple
[10:08] <bingo> ActionParsnip, yes, ty it worked. you are right it was simple
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> bingo: update-grub processes those files in order and so if you change the order, they appear at different points in the final grub file
[10:09] <quantumtonto> anyone have a clue as to why awesome wm is not available as a login option .. ubu 13.04 ?
[10:09] <bingo> StrangeNoises, i guess, i mean i use linux for a game thts all. the gamee gets better fps on linux
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> quantumtonto: sounds like abug, you could make the session file yourself
[10:10] <parad0xx_> shouldn't 2nd hd be sdb1? or something?  very new to this
[10:10] <quantumtonto> ActionPartnership ty .. any tuts may help me do that ?
[10:10] <quantumtonto> actionparsnip .. srry ty =D
[10:10] <yeyeman> any modular synth software for ubuntu? Or anything used for making generating synthezied sounds?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> yeyeman, dozenz
[10:11] <cfhowlett> yeyeman, several package sfor that.  more info in #ubuntustudio
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> quantumtonto: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2827    not dissimilar to this, just change the commands etc
[10:11] <quantumtonto> ActionParsnip ty will give it a go =D
[10:16] <undaunted> what
[10:16] <StrangeNoises> that
[10:18] <Solarnight> Hello
[10:18] <Solarnight> I'm new here
[10:19] <Solarnight> Well its been years since I've used this thing. Anyone willing to speed me up to the commands and rooms here?
[10:20] <ObrienDave> anything in particular?
[10:20] <Solarnight> just the room names and commands for now
[10:20] <Solarnight> i've been looking for this thing for 5 years now. I cam across it on youtube
[10:21] <DJones> !alis | Solarnight
[10:21] <minimec> Solarnight: Don't use '/part' and '/quit', unless ... ;)
[10:21] <Solarnight> Thank you
[10:24] <tomboy64> is it normal for ubuntu (precise) to install and start apache per default?
[10:28] <quantumtonto> ActionParsnip /usr/share/xsessions/awesome .. NoDisplay=true .. AHA !! =D
[10:29] <Solarnight> I feel like in all the wrong rooms lol.
[10:31] <Solarnight> I'll just say random stuff until someone decides to chat with me
[10:31] <DJones> Solarnight: What sort of channel were you looking for, this channel is just for Ubuntu support
[10:31] <Solarnight> nothing specific. I just wanna chat
[10:32] <ObrienDave> then try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:33] <keyfur> How do I install wacom tablet drivers on Ubuntu? I expected it to auto-recognize, but it hadn't.
[10:33] <quantumtonto> woo hoo im in awesome =D .. now i get to learn how to use it =D
[10:33] <DJones> Solarnight: Maybe try "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" Thats a general chat channel
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> quantumtonto: d'oh
[10:33] <cfhowlett> keyfur, there's a driver for that on edubuntu so it should be in software center repo's
[10:34] <quantumtonto> lol =D
[10:34] <quantumtonto> ty actionparsnip fot the direction =D
[10:34] <quantumtonto> for*
[10:34] <Solarnight> dankie
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> quantumtonto: no worries dude
[10:36] <keyfur> cfhowlett:  Thank you I'll give that a try.
[10:37] <cfhowlett> keyfur, best of luck
[10:44] <SDr>  hi there, http://pastebin.com/2Guq0Afb   is my /etc/init.d/nginx  file; however, upon reboot , it fails to bring nginx up
[10:44] <SDr> update-rc.d nginx defaults   says System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/nginx already exist.
[10:46] <keyfur> cfhowlett No dice. The libs and drivers were already installed. Also I see a "wacom.ko" under /lib/modules/3.8.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/input/tablet/
[10:47] <keyfur> Is that a driver? I'm not familiar with *.ko files
[10:47] <Danato> can anybody tell me whats the difference between installing kde-full and installing kde-desktop?
[10:48] <xyzwhatever> hey how can I turn on network recognition or something,     that tells other computers in the LAN to find me by my hostname instead of the IP ???
[10:48] <parad0xx_> how can I get ubuntu to see my 2nd hd?  dual booting with xp pro, which can still see it, but ubuntu can't, any ideas?
[10:48] <parad0xx_> just installed 12.04 yesterday
[10:48] <keyfur> In a virtualbox, I can pass the USB port to a Windows7 guest with no issues. So the device itself and usb port are functioning
[10:49] <cfhowlett> keyfur, I've not yet used wacom.  see the ubuntustudio forums for wacom and the #ubuntustudio irc channel
[10:49] <quentin_1> test
[10:49] <cfhowlett> quentin_1, fail
[10:49] <keyfur> cfhowlett ok, thank you
[10:49] <olf-folks> quentin_1, works
[10:50] <parad0xx_> fdisk -l shows nothing, just returns a new prompt
[10:50] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, use ' sudo fdisk -l  "
[10:50] <quentin_1> thx, it's my fist attempt to use it
[10:51] <qolund> hello
[10:51] <qolund> I'm running a live USB and am unable to update my grub
[10:52] <qolund> I just resized and moved my ubuntu partition (my unique OS)
[10:52] <excognac> hi all if java: not found, how do install java in kubuntu13.10
[10:52] <qolund> Is there a way to perhaps remove grub (since i don't need it) or update it from my live boot ?
[10:52] <parad0xx_> OerHeks: ok, that returned a bunch of stuff
[10:53] <parad0xx_> but I don't think my 2nd hd is showing up
[10:53] <parad0xx_> my c: drive, and a usb stick
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !java|excognac,
[10:53] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com and give the url here
[10:53] <iceroot_> excognac: sudo apt-get install openjdk-jre-7
[10:53] <excognac> iceroot_: ty
[10:55]  * qolund had xchat-gnome segfaulting :/
[10:58] <keyfur> Is there a way I can digitally inspect a USB device's model number, and then compare that to a currently installed driver? To see if the driver I have is appropriate?
[10:58] <olf-folks> dose ubuntu have a rolling development release?
[10:58] <cfhowlett> olf-folks, no.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !release
[10:59] <olf-folks> is it possible to hop off the LTS train?
[10:59] <minimec> keyfur: 'lsusb' in a terminal. Look for the number like this... 046d:c041 ...
[10:59] <OerHeks> keyfur, lsusb should give you enough details, look for the 8 digit hex number
[10:59] <cfhowlett> olf-folks, sure.  download the ISO you want, clean install.
[10:59] <parad0xx_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375719/
[11:00] <parad0xx_> OerHeks: there
[11:00] <olf-folks> blah
[11:01] <parad0xx_> booted back into xp, it sees both drives just fine
[11:01] <keyfur> Thank you minimec / OerHeks. Is it possible to compare that to a driver? I'm troubleshooting a USB device
[11:01] <parad0xx_> ubuntu can just see the boot drive + flash drives
[11:02] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, sda1 is your windows partition, so i guess you have used the 2nd windows partition to install ubuntu on
[11:02] <minimec> keyfur: With that number you can search the internet in combination with 'ubuntu' or 'linux' to get further information.
[11:03] <parad0xx_> yeah, I had no idea what I was doing, so not sure how I installed it
[11:03] <keyfur> minimec; copy. thank you for the help
[11:03] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, i am sorry to confirm this :-(
[11:03] <cfhowlett> keyfur, also see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wacom_Tablet
[11:04] <parad0xx_> so what did I do?
[11:04] <parad0xx_> no easy way to fix it?
[11:04] <parad0xx_> w/o losing data?
[11:05] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, no, i am afraid your data is gone
[11:05] <keyfur> cfhowlett: brilliant. I'm exploring both those now
[11:05] <parad0xx_> hmm..but xp still sees it
[11:05] <jcrom> howdy
[11:05] <parad0xx_> no way to fix it so ubuntu does too?
[11:06] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, "xp sees it"  did you check it by opening a file?
[11:06] <parad0xx_> no...but I saw all the folders
[11:06] <parad0xx_> didn't actually open a file, no
[11:06] <olf-folks> cfhowlett, what about sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[11:06] <parad0xx_> but the folders were there, isn't that evidence enough?
[11:07] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, xp is fooling you, i guess. try opening a file from within xp
[11:08] <parad0xx_> ok, bbiaf, let me boot in to xp
[11:08] <Ycarene> I'm running an Nvidia Geforce 210 with two monitors, HDMI for my primary and dvi for my secondary.  I'd like to use the HDMI monitor for when I switch to a text console but it seems that it only shows on the DVI monitor, is there a way to use the HDMI for the text console?
[11:09] <creek> OerHeks: I missed the start but did he have win on sda1 and data on sda2 and than install ubuntu on sda2 or something?
[11:09] <OerHeks> creek, yeah, something like that, and there is an cryptswap also
[11:09] <creek> oh :) nice..
[11:10] <creek> Ycarene: swith to text console?
[11:10] <jcrom> what do you all use for IRC? I am using the default Empathy messaging... I'd never heard of it before installing Ubuntu
[11:10] <Guest18080> I am new to Linux. I am using Ubuntu 12.04. My display resolution is stuck at 1024x768. But my Acer monitor supports higher resolutions. I have tried adding new resolutions through xrandr. "xrandr -q" shows: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[11:10] <Guest18080> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[11:10] <Guest18080> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[11:10] <Guest18080>    1024x768       61.0*
[11:10] <Guest18080>    800x600        61.0
[11:10] <Guest18080>    640x480        60.0
[11:10] <FloodBot1> Guest18080: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <Ycarene> creek using ctrl-alt-f1 thru f6
[11:11] <creek> Ycarene: ah tty... why do you want to use tty?
[11:12] <creek> Why not use a fullscreen terminal?
[11:12] <ola2> how to make a sh script wiht launching a terminal in background with command
[11:12] <ola2> sh script - open terminal in background with command
[11:12] <ola2> help
[11:13] <creek> ola usualy you can start apps with terminal -e appname...
[11:13] <Ycarene> creek - troubleshooting purposes, or if something breaks I'd like to type without craning my neck to look over at the other monitor.
[11:13] <creek> Ycarene: hehehe
[11:13] <Ycarene> creek - does it really matter why though?
[11:14] <Danato> i thought installing kde-full would automatically install me a kde desktop :/
[11:14] <creek> Ycarene: well is the dvi monitor somehow the first hardware monitor?
[11:14] <ola2> ubuntu make sh script to open terminal in background running a command
[11:14] <ola2> help
[11:14] <ola2> ??
[11:15] <Parad0xx> OerHeks: yup, xp sees everything on E: just fine
[11:15] <Parad0xx> in windows now
[11:15] <creek> Ycarene: well its easy to just open a terminal from X and use that. but if you try to fix some X error or other then thats a other matter..
[11:15] <geirha> ola2: gnome-terminal -x the_command &
[11:15] <Parad0xx> opened several files
[11:15] <creek> Parad0xx: than you did not install ubuntu on E:
[11:15] <minimec> Guest18080: Are you sure you use the appropriate driver for you GPU? Did you check 'additional drivers' in 'Software&updates'?
[11:15] <Ycarene> creek - I'm guessing, since that's what shows the bios startup.  In the past with older nvidia cards (using vga+dvi) I got the same thing on both monitors until the graphics driver loaded.
[11:15] <Parad0xx> creek: didnt know I had to :(
[11:15] <Parad0xx> assumed it would see all drives
[11:16] <geirha> ola2: For learning shell scripting with bash, see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[11:16] <marlo> trying to run 'apt-get install mc --fix-missing' and am getting 'Size mismatch' on .deb files and 'Unable to correct missing packages'
[11:16] <Parad0xx> no way to fix it...beyond reinstalling somehow?
[11:16] <creek> Parad0xx: Nu but you did not overwrite your data...
[11:16] <ola2> i did what u said
[11:16] <ola2> iots working fine
[11:16] <ola2> but a terminal opens
[11:16] <Parad0xx> just want to be able to access files on E: from within ubuntu
[11:16] <ola2> i dont want to see that
[11:16] <creek> Parad0xx: or maybe... I missed the start of what you tried to do..
[11:16] <Guest18080> I am new to Linux. I am using Ubuntu 12.04. My display resolution is stuck at 1024x768. But my Acer monitor supports higher resolutions. I have tried adding new resolutions through xrandr. "xrandr -q" shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375780/
[11:16] <ola2> means terminal invisible
[11:16] <geirha> ola2: You specifically said you wanted a terminal to open ...
[11:17] <ola2> ya
[11:17] <Parad0xx> creek:  I had xp pro on c:, c: was mainly just OS files, and E: used for data
[11:17] <ola2> what u said is working
[11:17] <Parad0xx> 2 drives
[11:17] <ola2> but i want terminal to be invisible
[11:17] <Parad0xx> physical
[11:17] <ola2> means just run that command
[11:17] <ola2> terminal should be invisible
[11:17] <geirha> ola2: so run the command without a terminal
[11:17] <Parad0xx> installed via iso/cd 12.04 yesterday
[11:17] <OerHeks> Parad0xx, odd your paste gives 1 hdd and 1 usb device only
[11:17] <ola2> ya like that
[11:17] <ObrienDave> jcrom a lot of people here use Xchat or HexChat
[11:17] <geirha> ola2: the_command &
[11:17] <ola2> if i run the command the terminal would stuck
[11:17] <Parad0xx> OerHeks: exactly
[11:18] <ola2> ok let me try
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ola2: what does the command do?
[11:18] <Parad0xx> for some reason ubuntu is only seeing the windows C: drive
[11:18] <creek> Parad0xx: and its not jsut two partitions on one drive?
[11:18] <OerHeks> Parad0xx, to enable ntfs partitions, install ntfs-3g ( i hope this works for you)
[11:18] <Parad0xx> no, there are 2 physical drives in the machine
[11:18] <ola2> thanx a lot problem solved with just &
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Parad0xx: is the other healthy?
[11:18] <OerHeks> creek i wonder too, his paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375719/
[11:18] <Parad0xx> should be
[11:19] <ola2> ActionParsnip : im opening python program
[11:19] <Parad0xx> opened several files just now
[11:19] <jatt> how can I get the capacity of my laptop's hard disk from the command line?
[11:19] <Parad0xx> have had no issues in xp with it
[11:19] <ola2> geirha : thank you very much
[11:19] <ola2> u saved my day
[11:19] <creek> Ycarene: Im not a nvida person.. so I cant help you with that...
[11:19] <creek> Parad0xx: what filesystem is it on E:?
[11:19] <Parad0xx> ntfs?
[11:19] <Parad0xx> I think
[11:20] <Parad0xx> both are
[11:20] <keyfur> Figured it out. My question earlier was how to install wacom drawing tablet drivers. I solved it by typing "lsusb" and googling the 8-digit hex. The "Pen & Touch" model I have is too new and not supported in ubuntu, yet. Confirmation: http://sourceforge.net/p/linuxwacom/mailman/message/31485674/
[11:20] <Ycarene> creek - ahh, well, not a big deal, just a peeve for me.
[11:20] <creek> Parad0xx: its probobly /dev/sdb1 or so...
[11:20] <Parad0xx> yup, both show as ntfs via my computer
[11:20] <creek> Ycarene: It must be possible. ;)
[11:20] <Parad0xx> 300 gb
[11:20] <ljunggren> anyone else cant get restricted drivers to show since 13.10?
[11:20] <Parad0xx> c: is 80
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Parad0xx: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see the partitions?
[11:21] <Parad0xx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375719/ was the result of that
[11:21] <Parad0xx> in xp now, both drives functioning normally
[11:21] <creek> I need to install me a webbrowser ^^
[11:22] <Parad0xx> from my little *nix know-how, I see my c: and a flash drive...but I could be wrong
[11:22] <minimec> Ycarene: If I remember well, disable the HDMI output once and only use the DVI one. Like that DVI is set as 'primary' monitor. Now you open the xrandr GUI and activate the HDMI output. Like that HDMI is set 'secondary' monitor. If you switch to console, the console should be shown on the 'primary' DVI output.
[11:22] <DJones> Parad0xx: Is your data drive not the one listed at the bottom /dev/sdb1<PHONE_NUMBER>      982404    b  W95 FAT32
[11:22] <Parad0xx> umm
[11:23] <Parad0xx> e: is 300 gb, with about 100 free
[11:23] <Parad0xx> would that be it?
[11:23] <Parad0xx> according to xp/my computer
[11:23] <creek> Parad0xx: try to mount /dev/sdb1 /media/somplace..
[11:23] <Parad0xx> how?
[11:23] <creek> and than look in to that ls /media/sameplace...
[11:24] <jcrom> going to be trying out bumblebee with my Nvidia switching graphics... wish me luck
[11:24] <Parad0xx> exact command creek?
[11:24] <creek> Parad0xx: Open terminal, type: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[11:24] <Parad0xx> ok
[11:24] <creek> Parad0xx: In same terminal type: ls /mnt
[11:24] <Parad0xx> booting back into ubuntu
[11:24] <creek> Parad0xx: look if you see the files...
[11:25] <auronandace> Parad0xx: if you are using a wubi install i highly recommend you do a normal install
[11:25] <Parad0xx> don't think it's wubi
[11:25] <Parad0xx> I burned an iso from a wubi install on another box...and used that
[11:26] <Parad0xx> booted up from the cd and installed that way on here
[11:26] <minimec> Ycarene: nvidia-settings, not xrandr ... ;)
[11:26] <Parad0xx> k, brb, rebooting back to ubuntu
[11:26] <ljunggren> anyone else cant get restricted drivers to show since 13.10?
[11:28] <minimec> ljunggren: It is possible that the restricted driver for your card has been removed due to incompatibility with the xserver used in 13.10
[11:28] <ljunggren> minimec, it it the same in my laptop with 13.10 not the same gpu
[11:29] <ljunggren> minimec, and i can install them in synaptics... its just software-properties-gtk that crashes while i search for them
[11:29] <minimec> ljunggren: ok. I cannot help you further then.
[11:30] <parad0xx> back
[11:30] <DJones> Parad0xx: Looking at it, the sdb1 looks too small to be your data drive
[11:30] <parad0xx> nope, sdb1 is the flash drive
[11:30] <parad0xx> heh gmta
[11:30] <creek> do you have a sdc?
[11:31] <minimec> ljunggren: Can you open the GPU configuration software of the card. I mean the installation of the package should do a default configuration, and the driver restricted driver would be used automatically.
[11:32] <creek> or maybe its a lod drive with a hda... i dont know if ubuntu still mapps hda
[11:32] <creek> lod/old
[11:32] <parad0xx> what's sdc?
[11:32] <sl1de> hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu to an USB stick so i could use that awesome system everywhere :) and thinks i have to be aware of?
[11:32] <sl1de> any*
[11:33] <creek> parad0xx: In linux, scsi and sata drives show up as devices in /dev/sdx* ie /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdc3 and so on...
[11:33] <parad0xx> do I? :)  no idea what I'm doing
[11:33] <minimec> sl1de: Verify to choose the correct MBR to install grub on...
[11:33] <parad0xx> how would I check?
[11:33] <creek> parad0xx: sd is driver type, a,b,c is the drive in order and the number is partition..
[11:33] <minimec> sl1de: No swap.
[11:34] <ljunggren> minimec, what? say that again i dont really got you
[11:34] <parad0xx> I also have a cd/dvd drive, if that matters
[11:34] <ljunggren> minimec, you mean amd catalyst control center?
[11:34] <parad0xx> I did that sudo fdisk -l
[11:34] <parad0xx> and pasted the output
[11:34] <sl1de> minimec: okay got that :)
[11:34] <olf-folks> i was do-dist-upgrade and i tryed the dragndrop feature in terminator and it went a way but it says apt is still running? what should i do now xD
[11:34] <ljunggren> Oh
[11:34] <ljunggren> Dont use terminator
[11:35] <creek> parad0xx: I dont have a webbrowser yet so I cant look at that yet...
[11:35] <parad0xx> o
[11:35] <parad0xx> what else can I try?
[11:35] <creek> parad0xx: if you typ ls /dev/ | grep sd*
[11:36] <creek> and ls /dev/ | grep hd*
[11:36] <minimec> ljunggren: If you installed the fglrx package, it should do an initial configuration I guess. Otherwise you would have to do a 'sudo aticonfig --initial' or something. And yes... Can you open the catalyst center? Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[11:36] <sl1de> minimec: is it just as easy as that? i always thought it would be a mindkilling process..
[11:36] <creek> you might be able to see what hardware drives there are...
[11:36] <olf-folks> is there a way to use tail or something to see what apt is doing and finnish my install?
[11:36] <parad0xx> I have sda, sda1,2,5,6
[11:37] <parad0xx> sdb, sdb1
[11:37] <SDr> so, I've added a new nginx.conf upstart job; and did an  initctl reload-configuration   ;however, no dice after restarting -it fails to come up automatically
[11:37] <parad0xx> no hd anything
[11:38] <minimec> sl1de: Well. Pay attention to choose the right installation device and the right MBR. That's all it takes. Your stick is seen as normal harddrive.
[11:38] <creek> parad0xx: So your first drive have 4 partitons and the 2nd have one and thats the sdcard/usb...
[11:38] <ljunggren> minimec, i do, but the problem im having is opening restricted drivers too se which is availble in "updates and drivers" .. i installed drivers from amd website but it would be nice to just enable whichever suits my needs
[11:38] <sl1de> minimec: Ah okay thats cool :) Thanks a lot!
[11:38] <parad0xx> so now what?
[11:39] <creek> so ubuntu only see the first drive, sda1 is windows? sda2 is? sda5 is linux maybe? and sda6 is swap?
[11:39] <creek> or where did you install ubuntu?
[11:39] <thunder1212> hi
[11:39] <cfhowlett> thunder1212, greetings
[11:39] <parad0xx> not sure, wherever it defaulted to want to
[11:39] <ljunggren> minimec, i suppose its not a issue since i can install whatever in synaptic anyway.. but still
[11:39] <minimec> ljunggren: There is only one restricted driver available for AMD/ATI. So I don't see the problem. If you don't want to use that one... 'sudo apt-get purge fglrx'...
[11:40] <parad0xx> there was some sort of slider thing...something about choose size of partition?
[11:40] <thunder1212> cfhowlett: should i install openjdk or oracle jdk ?
[11:40] <creek> parad0xx: if you type df -hT
[11:40] <parad0xx> pick like 50 for the left side, 30 for the right
[11:40] <creek> you can see where / is mounted
[11:40] <creek> and what device it is
[11:40] <cfhowlett> thunder1212, I installed openjdk for an adobe online app and it ran great
[11:40] <Hejkki> hi, is there a way to install ubuntu-gnome 13.10 i386 from cd without graphical interface
[11:40] <cfhowlett> thunder1212, of course, YMMV
[11:40] <Hejkki> install from command line
[11:41] <DJones> !minimal | Hejkki
[11:41] <parad0xx> is ext4
[11:41] <ljunggren> minimec, oh ok.. two actually.. the one installed from amd website and the one that comes with ubuntu installable.. i don't know
[11:41] <parad0xx> er, /
[11:41] <parad0xx> and is /sda5
[11:41] <thunder1212> cfhowlett: which is more advanced?
[11:41] <parad0xx> well, /dev/sda5
[11:41] <Hejkki> but minimal can install gnome straight from installation?
[11:41] <thunder1212> cfhowlett: is oracle java secure?
[11:42] <creek> parad0xx: so linux is sda5 and windows C: is sda1... whats sda2?
[11:42] <parad0xx> size 18 gig 3 used
[11:42] <cfhowlett> thunder1212, IDK, IDC, I just wanted it to work.  Ask someone smarter than I
[11:42] <DJones> Hejkki: You can also install 13.10 as normal but just boot up in text mode
[11:42] <DJones> !text | Hejkki
[11:42] <ljunggren> How can i know which version of CCC will be installed by fgrlx-updates? is it far behind from the one from AMD website? anyone?
[11:42] <thunder1212> cfhowlett: ok thanks!
[11:42] <parad0xx> that df line doesn't show sda2
[11:42] <creek> parad0xx: umount /mnt && mount /dev/sda2 /mnt && ls /mnt
[11:43] <Hejkki> i'm going to use the gnome but for some reason the ubuntu-gnome 13.10 installation cd will not start the graphical installation program
[11:43] <minimec> ljunggren: Having two version of fglrx might cause problems with the fglrx kernel module I guess.
[11:44] <ljunggren> minimec, well i don't have them installed at the same time.. im sorry i already got my answer thanks!
[11:44] <minimec> ljunggren: I would only use the one provided by ubuntu...
[11:44] <parad0xx>  /mnt is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[11:44] <minimec> ljunggren: ok.
[11:44] <parad0xx> wait, sudo in front of all that?
[11:44] <ljunggren> minimec, you would eh... must i completely remove the one from amd website?
[11:44] <DJones> Hejkki: Do you mean Gnome or the normal Unity interface, I'm not certain about Ubuntu-Gnome itself, but I would have thought it had a similar minimal install iso
[11:44] <creek> parad0xx: oh..
[11:44] <ljunggren> minimec, i want to use the one that came with ubuntu
[11:44] <ljunggren> even if its behind
[11:44] <Hejkki> DJones: not unity
[11:44] <DJones> parad0xx: sda2 is just the extended partition
[11:44] <creek> parad0xx: sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt && ls /mnt
[11:44] <minimec> ljunggren: I would remove the one of the website.
[11:45] <creek> ah
[11:45] <jamie42> I actually have a relevant question that you might be able to answer!!!
[11:45] <Hejkki> and dmesg says something like nouveau E[  PFIFO] ..... CACHE_ERROR - ch 2 [gnome-shell... and so on.....
[11:45] <creek> parad0xx: what DJones says..
[11:45] <DJones> parad0xx: sda2 is split into two partitions sda5 & sda6
[11:45] <Hejkki> in the installation
[11:45] <parad0xx> so wait, still do that command, but with sudo? or don't do it now
[11:45] <jamie42> there is some kind of command that gives the Ubuntu code name (ie lucid) and the version (ie 10.04)
[11:45] <jamie42> what is this command????
[11:45] <creek> parad0xx: so somehow your "E" drive is not at all
[11:46] <creek> parad0xx: Dont!
[11:46] <cfhowlett> jamie42, lsb_release -a
[11:46] <parad0xx> ok
[11:46] <chrys-studio> 'llo v'rybody
[11:46] <parad0xx> didn't
[11:46] <Mimmo> ciao
[11:46] <parad0xx> whew ;), well, did, but w/o sudo
[11:46] <creek> :P
[11:46] <parad0xx> so, don't think it did anything
[11:46] <chrys-studio> hello wimmo
[11:46] <Mimmo> !list
[11:46] <jamie42> cfhowlett: Thanks!  That's just what I wanted
[11:46] <creek> nop
[11:46] <DJones> Hejkki: I would assume that you can use the minimal iso to get a text based system, then install the gnome desktop fairly easily
[11:46] <parad0xx> yeah, E: doesn't appear to be seen at all
[11:46] <ljunggren> minimec, just uninstall by synaptics?
[11:46] <parad0xx> by ubuntu
[11:46] <Hejkki> DJones: ok
[11:46] <jamie42> cfhowlett: if you have any perl questions then please just ask
[11:47] <parad0xx> no clue why...what else can I try?
[11:47] <creek> parad0xx: so... is it some special kind of drive that the ubuntu kernel does not have drivers for?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> jamie42, thanks, none at the moment or foreseeable future
[11:47] <parad0xx> shouldn't be
[11:47] <chrys-studio> have connection troubles. i installed, connected, switch on ufw during install, reboot, and US refused my very same connection PW
[11:47] <jamie42> cfhowlett: I also do C / python / Scala / shell but perl is easiest :)
[11:47] <parad0xx> random 300 gb drive I got off ebay
[11:47] <jamie42> cfhowlett: NP :) thanks again
[11:47] <cfhowlett> jamie42, good to know
[11:47] <creek> parad0xx: and its connected how?
[11:47] <parad0xx> 2nd sata port on mobo?
[11:48] <chrys-studio> wifi working during install but not after
[11:48] <MarkDavis> Hi.
[11:48] <creek> than it sould be sdb..
[11:48] <chrys-studio> sdb, pls ?
[11:48] <matthias_arch> my cronjob runs a bash script which runs a python script. the python script does not get completely run. when i run the bash script from various paths there is no problem
[11:49] <creek> parad0xx: but that was the usb/sdcard?
[11:49] <parad0xx> right, odd, right? :)
[11:49] <chrys-studio> creek, sdb, , pls ?
[11:49] <somsip> matthias_arch: environmental variable problem?
[11:49] <MarkDavis> I have installed drivers for a Brother multifunctional device, but it doesn't work. Can somebody help me? I haven't installed those from Brother's repository but those from Ubuntu native packages.
[11:49] <creek> chrys-studio: I was talking to parad0xx ...
[11:49] <parad0xx> pissing me off, no idea why it won't see it
[11:49] <matthias_arch> my crontab -e line. */1 * * * * /mnt/hdd/stundenplan/bot.sh
[11:49] <chrys-studio> ok
[11:49] <parad0xx> ::sigh::
[11:49] <creek> try remove all usb and such and reboot?
[11:49] <parad0xx> ok
[11:49] <chrys-studio> creek : what u mean by sdb, pls
[11:50] <somsip> matthias_arch: you need to pastebin the script, and * * * * * is the same as */1 * * * *
[11:50] <creek> chrys-studio: sdb is a haddrive...
[11:50] <parad0xx> wait, do I have to umount anything?
[11:50] <matthias_arch> somsip: i think not, because when i type /mnt/hdd/stundenplan/bot.sh in the console it is executed fine
[11:50] <chrys-studio> ha, sdb 4 paradox, ok
[11:50] <chrys-studio> lol
[11:50] <creek> parad0xx: no
[11:50] <parad0xx> ok
[11:50] <matthias_arch> somsip: i modified it from 30 to 1 because of testing
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !who
[11:50] <creek> shutdown, unplugg boot...
[11:50] <matthias_arch> somsip: i can paste the sh script
[11:50] <somsip> matthias_arch: and it's running as your user, in your current shell. When run as a cronjob, this is not necessarily the same
[11:50] <parad0xx> brb, unpluggng usb drive, and rebooting
[11:51] <chrys-studio> any idea, creek ?
[11:51] <creek> chrys-studio: why wifi dont work?
[11:52] <creek> chrys-studio: why wifi dont work?
[11:52] <matthias_arch> somsip: http://pastebin.com/VVuuYsKd
[11:52] <Hejkki> brasero crashed, great
[11:53] <matthias_arch> somsip: if there is a environment variable error, how can i catch it?
[11:53] <somsip> matthias_arch: not sure why you don't just have 'python /mnt.hdd/..etc' in your crontab... But at what point does this fail?
[11:53] <parad0xx> k, done
[11:54] <creek> parad0xx: and now? only sda?
[11:54] <parad0xx> not showing up in nautilus yet
[11:54] <parad0xx> fdisk -l again?
[11:54] <parad0xx> sudo
[11:54] <cfhowlett> chrys-studio, plug in a hardwired network.  run the system>additional drivers tool    and that might install your wifi correctly
[11:54] <matthias_arch> somsip: at the beginning i had python ... The bot goes on 4 links, afterthat he does some calculations and then the execution stops
[11:54] <chrys-studio> creek : it catch networks but refused the same PW accepted during install process
[11:55] <creek> parad0xx: if you typ ls /dev/ | grep sd*
[11:55] <parad0xx> sda 1, 2, 5 and 6
[11:55] <parad0xx> o
[11:55] <chrys-studio> creek : wifi installed correctly, wifi fetects but refuse PW
[11:55] <geirha> matthias_arch: * * * * * python /mnt/hdd/stundenplan/bot.py >/tmp/botoutput 2>&1       # then wait for it to run once and see what output you got in /tmp/botoutput
[11:56] <creek> pw? so... you cant enter the password?
[11:56] <parad0xx> yeah, sda, and then 1,2,5,6
[11:56] <creek> parad0xx: well... sorry :P
[11:56] <somsip> matthias_arch: does your bot.py output any logging anywhere?....oh, as geirha has said, or something like that to catch output
[11:56] <parad0xx> o, when I boot..I get something about cryptswapper drive not ready or not present...
[11:56] <parad0xx> continue to wait, press s, or m for manual recovery
[11:56] <creek> parad0xx: Its probobly some harware or driver thing...
[11:56] <parad0xx> I think I picked to encrypt my home dir
[11:57] <geirha> matthias_arch: On a side note, don't run bash scripts with sh. sh != bash
[11:57] <DJones> parad0xx: Just a daft thought, you said the 2nd drive is connected to the 2nd sata port on the motherboard, is your first drive conected to the 1st sata port
[11:57] <creek> parad0xx: cryptoswap is the swap partition
[11:57] <matthias_arch> somsip: it logs the 4 links and then after the calculations. wait a second
[11:57] <parad0xx> DJones: I assume so, pretty sure
[11:57] <creek> DJones: thinking hardware... :)
[11:57] <parad0xx> came with 1 drive, I bought one off of ebay, and a sata cable
[11:57] <parad0xx> installed it
[11:57] <sl1de> parad0xx: what are you trying to do?
[11:58] <chrys-studio> crrek, sorry, deconected. did u get it ?
[11:58] <parad0xx> sl1de: ubuntu can't see my 2nd hard drive
[11:58] <creek> chrys-studio: pw? so... you cant enter the password?
[11:58] <parad0xx> xp sees both physical drives fine
[11:58] <creek> sl1de: his missing a harddrive..
[11:58] <parad0xx> ubuntu just sees the boot drive
[11:58] <creek> sl1de: it does not show up in /dev..
[11:58] <thunder1212> which is better (performance wise) oracle java or openjdk java?
[11:58] <matthias_arch> somsip: geirha: http://pastebin.com/cLSKn7zq
[11:59] <DJones> parad0xx: THe only reason I asked was in case the two drives were connected to two different sata pieces of hardware and the driver for the 2nd one wasn;t being detected, but if they're both running off the same sata card that shouldn't be the case
[11:59] <sl1de> creek: okay, that seems to be strange..
[11:59] <parad0xx> DJones: yeah, should be
[11:59] <geirha> matthias_arch: does it do setlocale(LC_ALL,"") ?
[12:00] <parad0xx> xp sees em both fine, I never installed any special drivers..not like it's some obscure drive
[12:00] <parad0xx> random 300 gb western digital I think
[12:00] <parad0xx> sata
[12:00] <matthias_arch> geirha: you mean in bot.py ? if so no
[12:01] <chrys-studio> ok, somebdy ? i connected internet during install, then switch on UFW, then reboot after install from hd, the founded out wifi works but refused the very same pw given during install that did connect to internet
[12:01] <parad0xx> so, I'm pretty much screwed? :)
[12:01] <geirha> matthias_arch: Then there's a bug in your python script, failing to convert unicode to str correctly
[12:01] <creek> thunder1212: no java ;)
[12:01] <parad0xx> might give up on ubuntu then, I need access to that drive
[12:01] <parad0xx> hmm
[12:01] <parad0xx> creek :(
[12:02] <matthias_arch> geirha: ok i haven't found it because the python script runs fine in terminal
[12:02] <DJones> parad0xx: Hopefully not, I'd say ask the question again in little while, somebody may join the channel between now and then that can help
[12:02] <parad0xx> wb creek
[12:02] <parad0xx> DJones: yeah, I posted on some web forum too
[12:02] <creek> wb?
[12:02] <parad0xx> welcome back
[12:02] <creek> ah
[12:02] <parad0xx> sorry
[12:03] <thunder12121> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java is this repo secure?
[12:03] <chrys-studio> some 1 can help me, pliz ?  somebdy ? i connected internet during install, then switch on UFW, then reboot after install from hd, the founded out wifi works but refused the very same pw given during install that did connect to internet
[12:03] <sl1de> chrys-studio: spamming wont solve your problem
[12:03] <cfhowlett> !patience|chrys-studio,
[12:03] <sl1de> chrys-studio: did u check your spelling?
[12:03] <chrys-studio> pw spelling ? yes
[12:04] <creek> chrys-studio: it can be any number of problems..
[12:04] <chrys-studio> switching on ufw during install , maybe ?
[12:04] <parad0xx> DJones: yeah, I will ask again in a bit
[12:04] <thunder12121> ?
[12:04] <parad0xx> thanks DJones and creek for trying
[12:04] <parad0xx> :)
[12:04] <thunder12121> is adding repos secure?
[12:05] <creek> thunder12121: if you trust the creator..yes
[12:05] <buu> parad0xx: Have you tried swapping which ports and cables the drives are plugged into? Along with trying different cables and drives entirely?
[12:05] <OerHeks> thunder12121, adding PPA's is at your own risk.
[12:05] <thunder12121> creek: how about this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[12:05] <chrys-studio> ok, i see, i reboot n reinstall w/out ufw switching on, i understand, tx 4 help
[12:05] <parad0xx> buu: no, I have not opened up the box and done anything
[12:06] <thunder12121> OerHeks: ok
[12:06] <buu> parad0xx: Does dmesg say anything?
[12:06] <parad0xx> go to a term prompt and type: dmesg
[12:06] <parad0xx> ?
[12:06] <buu> parad0xx: Just to verify, when in linux, you only see /dev/sda and no /dev/sd* anything else?
[12:06] <parad0xx> newbie here :)
[12:06] <thunder12121> OerHeks: it falls outside ubuntu right?
[12:06] <creek> yes
[12:06] <buu> parad0xx: Yes, it is a console command.
[12:06] <creek> parad0xx: yes
[12:06] <parad0xx> ok
[12:06] <creek> maybe sudo dmesg
[12:07] <parad0xx> wow
[12:07] <OerHeks> thunder12121, yes, we cannot give support, evenit is a well known ppa
[12:07] <parad0xx> lots of stuff that printed out
[12:07] <creek> parad0xx: and than maybe do a | grep for somethig ;)
[12:07] <thunder12121> OerHeks: is canonical partners ok?
[12:07] <sl1de> During my installation of Ubuntu i got a fatal error: Executing 'grub-install /dev/sdb' failed.   any piece of advice?
[12:07] <parad0xx> creek: ?
[12:08] <buu> parad0xx: If you can manage it, paste it all to a site, otherwise scan it for lines that involve the string 'dev' and 'sd'
[12:08] <OerHeks> thunder12121, any repository in softwarecenter is oke.
[12:08] <buu> parad0xx: dmesg | grep sd
[12:08] <cfhowlett> sl1de, more than 1 hdd?
[12:08] <thunder12121> OerHeks: is openjdk and oracle java the same?
[12:09] <parad0xx> ok, that was a lot less output ;)
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !openjdk
[12:09] <OerHeks> no, openJDK is the open source version for java.
[12:09] <osubuntu> who created openjdk anyways?
[12:09] <thunder12121> OerHeks: ok , which is more advanced?
[12:09] <creek> osubuntu: google it ;)
[12:09] <OerHeks> if a website demands to install oracle java, i leave it.
[12:10] <creek> osubuntu: its probobly on wikipedia too.
[12:10] <parad0xx> buu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6376010/
[12:10] <parad0xx> was the dmesg & gred sd
[12:10] <parad0xx> want the whole dmesg too?
[12:11] <buu> parad0xx: Welp. That's not terribly helpful. Sure, the whole *might* help a tad more.
[12:11] <parad0xx> k
[12:11] <buu> You're sure they're both sata drives?
[12:11] <thunder12121> OerHeks: i guess that majority websites require oracle java because i had to use a web site called cisco webex and it reqiured java and it wasnt working fine and kept crashing..
[12:12] <sl1de> cfhowlett:  i tried to install ubuntu to an USB Stick
[12:12] <parad0xx> yes
[12:12] <parad0xx> both sata
[12:12] <parad0xx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6376017/
[12:12] <creek> buu: is there a boot log in ubunt.. one that logs the hardware derection betofe dmesg?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> sl1de, okay ...
[12:12] <buu> creek: Uh, I don't think so...
[12:12] <sl1de> cfhowlett: i got some apple partitions, my ubuntu live stick (sdc) and  sdb which is the stick i want to install ubuntu on..
[12:13] <sl1de> cfhowlett:  sdb got 2 partitions, boot and root
[12:13] <cfhowlett> sl1de, right
[12:13] <ObrienDave> sl1de, what are you using to make the USB stick?
[12:13] <matthias_arch> geirha: Thanks for your support! ;) Working again now! I had to add this lines reload(sys)
[12:13] <matthias_arch> sys.setdefaultencoding("UTF-8")
[12:13] <matthias_arch> print sys.getdefaultencoding()
[12:13] <sl1de> ObrienDave: the live stick?
[12:13] <ObrienDave> yes
[12:13] <sl1de> i used dd
[12:13] <parad0xx> there
[12:14] <ObrienDave> sl1de, have you tried using unetbootin
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> creek: how would that happen? it could only really occur in BIOS
[12:15] <cfhowlett> sl1de, unetbootin ^^^
[12:15] <sl1de> ObrienDave: cfhowlett :  i guess my livestick works properly, because i used it to install ubuntu to another laptop which worked fine
[12:15] <parad0xx> buu: see anything unusual in there?
[12:16] <buu> parad0xx: This is a long shot but can you boot into windows and run fsck on your second hd?
[12:16] <ObrienDave> sl1de, but that is still a live system, different than INSTALLING to a USB stick
[12:17] <creek> parad0xx: you have a typical "i tried linux and it did not work" kind of error ;)
[12:17] <sl1de> ObrienDave: i know, thats why i tried following:  Booting from SDC (my live stick) on my laptop (sda)  and trying to INSTALL ubuntu to another stick (sdb)
[12:17] <parad0xx> creek: haha
[12:17] <parad0xx> yeah
[12:18] <parad0xx> was all excited when I finally decided to try it...now I'm scared ;)
[12:18] <DJones> parad0xx: Which Ubuntu version are you using
[12:18] <parad0xx> 12.04 lts
[12:18] <parad0xx> buu: I suppose
[12:19] <ObrienDave> sl1de, thinking *smell the smoke?*
[12:19] <buu> parad0xx: The other suggestions seem to involve changing to 'compatability mode' for your sata drives in the vios
[12:19] <buu> bios*
[12:20] <parad0xx> hmm
[12:20] <buu> "if you change at the BIOS the options of the SATA from "AHCI" to "COMPATIBILITY", the problem is solved"
[12:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:20] <parad0xx> hmm
[12:20] <parad0xx> ok, I will try that
[12:20] <sl1de> ObrienDave: installation went fine till it wanted to install grub.. i just choose  sdb as i would normally do it.. then i got some fatal error and the system kills itself :S
[12:20] <parad0xx> brb
[12:20] <parad0xx> rebooting
[12:21] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:21] <ObrienDave> sl1de, have you tried using the ISO and unetbootin to make the new USB stick?
[12:22] <sl1de> ObrienDave: so i could create a Portable USB stick with unetbooting?  (which i can work with, etc )
[12:23] <ObrienDave> yep, I have several
[12:23] <sl1de> ObrienDave: oh okay, thats nice.. didnt knew that. i Gonna give it a try :)
[12:24] <enchie>  Hey guys just wondering if someone could assist me in "installing" (not too sure what the process involves) a wireless network adapter on Lubuntu, cause the IRC over there seems to dead air (nooones replying)
[12:24] <enchie>  Its a DLINK DWA-510 wireless adapter, lspci shows the firmware to be RaLink Rt2561/RT61 and where it says Capabilities it states <access denied> anyone know where i move forward from here?
[12:26] <enchie> hello?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !patience|enchie,
[12:27] <enchie> lol just checking that people can actually see that im sending something
[12:29] <rneese> mornin
[12:29] <rneese> on ubuntu whay is the proper repo for firmware for wifi devices ?
[12:30] <bekks> rneese: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware :P
[12:32] <rneese> ok well on dbe it apt-get install firmware-(NAME)
[12:32] <rneese> so a little diff
[12:33] <ObrienDave> sl1de, better yet, burn ISO to DVD, boot DVD, use that to install to USB
[12:34] <sl1de> ObrienDave: That is nearly the same as what i just did
[12:34] <sl1de> ObrienDave:  but i used 2 usb sticks :D
[12:35] <ObrienDave> sorry, early morning here. tired :/
[12:35] <elisuccia> una spia al liceo
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !it|elisuccia,
[12:41] <jatt`> which is the fastest way to clone a home directory to an external SATA drive?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jatt`: copy it using nautilus, or rsync, or grsync
[12:44] <creek> channel died.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> !netsplit
[12:49] <Rootza> Hi there i run dual displayes on my AMD HD6670 using the catalyst software the laucher is on my descondary display and the option to slect where the laucnher goes is not in the display settings and i cant seem to find it in catalyst can anybody help?
[12:51] <creek> Rootza: sounds like your 2nd display is the first in ubuntu..
[12:51] <Rootza> seems that way
[12:51] <Rootza> any idea how to set it as my 2ed?
[12:52] <creek> well not sure.. but it can be as simpel as to change it in settings in ubuntu or in catalyst or you might have to rearrange the screens in Xorg?
[12:53] <Rootza> i did look in both catlyst and the ubuntu display settings for a way to do this but no luck
[12:53] <creek> xrandr?
[12:53] <Rootza> nope
[12:54] <creek> you cant change display 1 to 2?
[12:54] <Rootza> actually
[12:54] <Rootza> just checked on catalyst
[12:54] <Rootza> seems my screen 1 is screen 1 and my secondsary is 2
[12:54] <juanmi513> hi
[12:54] <enchie> Can anyone see this?
[12:54] <creek> Maybe the driver loads them in the other way..
[12:55] <creek> yes we can enchie
[12:55] <creek> or I can
[12:55] <thunder12121> hi can i disable suggestions from firefox to install gmail plugin , youtube plugin, facebook plugin etc?
[12:55] <Rootza> possibly so what would you sugest removing and reinstalling the driver?
[12:55] <creek> Rootza: no
[12:55] <Rootza> ok
[12:55] <enchie> thank god, is the lubuntu IRC down?
[12:55] <creek> Rootza: is it hdmi and dvi?
[12:56] <bekks> Rootza: This is not Windows, reinstalling software most likely doesnt fix a problem ;)
[12:56] <Rootza> main is vga (crap ikr) seconday is DVI
[12:56] <creek> DVI takes precense over vga..
[12:56] <bekks> Rootza: Why is VGA crap?
[12:56] <creek> DVI loads as first and vga as 2nd..
[12:56] <Rootza> because i have the option of HDMI :p
[12:56] <Rootza> but im just slightly lazy
[12:56] <bekks> creek: Thats not true :)
[12:56] <creek> Move your screens around ;)
[12:57] <enchie> Do I need to install drivers for a wireless pci adapter? I read somewhere they should already be in the kernel
[12:57] <iceroot_> bekks: vga is analog, dvi is (normally) digital
[12:57] <bekks> creek: The first adapter, most likely the internal one, takes precedence.
[12:57] <Rootza> lol
[12:57] <Rootza> but one is tiny
[12:57] <Rootza> other is masive
[12:57] <NCsaba> thunder12121: http://askubuntu.com/questions/214755/how-to-remove-unity-web-apps
[12:57] <bekks> iceroot_: I know that.
[12:57] <creek> bekks: yes true..
[12:57] <juanmi513> i have installed VM Virtual Box in a W7 PC. My first installation on VM is Ubuntu Studio 13. I was set VM (U-Studio profile) to share a folder, it's ok. The problem is that i don't found that folder into the Ubuntu filesystem. Somebody knows where can be? Thanks
[12:57] <Rootza> hence why its my main
[12:57] <Rootza> secondary is only for monitoring servers and a spare for other things
[12:57] <Rootza> as its tiny :p
[12:57] <bekks> juanmi513: You have to mount it.
[12:57] <juanmi513> thanks!
[12:57] <juanmi513> but.. how? xD
[12:58] <NCsaba> thunder12121: if you don't want to unuinstall just disable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/206710/how-do-i-disable-unity-webapps-notifications-from-popping-up-everytime-i-visit-a
[12:58] <creek> Rootza: I was thinking of some graphics card with dvi and vga...
[12:58] <Rootza> oh
[12:58] <creek> dvi takes precents in most cases..
[12:58] <bekks> juanmi513: Like this: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[12:58] <Rootza> mine has vga dvi and hdmi :p
[12:58] <thunder12121> NCsaba: thnx the disable one is the best..:)
[12:59] <enchie> Do I need to install drivers for a wireless pci adapter? I read somewhere they should already be in the kernel :/
[12:59] <juanmi513> thanks a lot bekks!
[12:59] <Rootza> so you sugest i stop being lazy and plug in my hdmi
[12:59] <Rootza> that should work correct?
[12:59] <bekks> enchie: Depends on your adapter.
[12:59] <NCsaba> enchie: I think that depends on your adapted
[12:59] <Rootza> or move the dvi to my main
[12:59] <bekks> !wifi | enchie
[12:59] <creek> Rootza: maybe.
[12:59] <Rootza> hmm
[12:59] <Rootza> 2 mins
[13:00] <enchie> ubottu, can you see anything I write in the lubuntu irc?
[13:00] <enchie> rofl
[13:00] <esde> i suspended my computer last night and this morning didn't get on it like I normally do, and now I'm at work with the computer still suspended and no access to it as a result. I have teamviewer installed but it's obviously not running right now :/ I do have remote access to a pc on the same lan, is there anyway I could send some packet to the suspended ubuntu box to make it "wake up'/
[13:00] <esde> wol is not configured
[13:00] <Rootza> ah.... actually i cant :/
[13:00] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm..didn't see anything for ahci/compat...but saw normal/legacy...tried legacy...no dice
[13:00] <NCsaba> juanmi513: try this https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15868
[13:01] <Rootza> creek any other ideas?
[13:01] <bekks> esde: Shutdown your computer, restart it.
[13:01] <creek> Rootza: man xrandr mayby?
[13:01] <Rootza> ok
[13:01] <bekks> NCsaba: He should read the official documentation first, since it even provides examples.
[13:01] <esde> bekks i cant. no ssh or remote access
[13:02] <Rootza> nothing
[13:02] <bekks> esde: Then you have to get physical access anyways.
[13:02] <bekks> esde: Without a chance to get onto the server, you cant solve a problem.
[13:02] <esde> ah. thats what i thought but figured id ask. thank you
[13:02] <NCsaba> bekks: right
[13:02] <creek> Rootza: archwiki has a nice article on this ;)
[13:03] <Rootza> ok :p
[13:03] <Rootza> *googles*
[13:03] <PaRaD0xxR> k, have to get some work done...I'll ask around in here later
[13:03] <PaRaD0xxR> ::sigh::
[13:03] <PaRaD0xxR> thanks for trying guys
[13:03] <CatKiller> esde: If "Wake On Lan" is enabled and you have a compatible NIC
[13:03] <CatKiller> esde: It might work
[13:04] <CatKiller> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[13:04] <bekks> CatKiller: The box didnt come up correctly. Not a WOL issue :)
[13:04] <esde> No it's not that it didn't come up properly. I didn't wake it before I left. So it's just sitting there suspended and asleep :(
[13:04] <CatKiller> I hadn't read "wol is not configured" sorry
[13:04] <esde> And my SO wont be home for like another 4 hours to wake up
[13:05] <DJones> PaRaD0xxR: Still the same issue with the 2nd drive?
[13:05] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah
[13:05] <PaRaD0xxR> in xp now
[13:05] <PaRaD0xxR> tried legacy mode, nothing
[13:05] <enchie> According to the docs my wifi card should be detected automotically on boot and the network should just connect with no addtional actions....that's not the case, also im on lubuntu (which their docs direct me to the ubunutu ones which have a completely different interface, i have no idea whats going on)
[13:06] <DJones> PaRaD0xxR:: I'm wondering whether the two drives are connected to different sata connections, the 2nd of which may not be supported in 12.04, it might be worth downloading 13.10 and putting it on a usb stick and just booting up with that in the try Ubuntu mode and seeing if that detects both disks.  As its the latest version, it may have a different/additional driver that lets it detect the other drive
[13:06] <PaRaD0xxR> hmmm
[13:06] <bekks> enchie: So which wifi chipset do you have, and did you configure it correctly?
[13:06] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, I guess I could try that
[13:06] <DJones> PaRaD0xxR: Thats about my last thought on the issue
[13:06] <PaRaD0xxR> it's just connected to another port on the motherboard, stock
[13:07] <PaRaD0xxR> but I will try 13.10 on a flash drive to check
[13:07] <PaRaD0xxR> sometime
[13:07] <PaRaD0xxR> thanks DJones for trying anyways ;)
[13:07] <esde> CatKiller, that worked :D
[13:07] <enchie> bekks, my chipset is RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B (an DLINK DWA 510), where would I configure it?
[13:08]  * esde adds to bag of tricks :)
[13:08] <bekks> enchie: By checking wether the driver is loaded, by setting up the connnection, etc.
[13:08] <bekks> enchie: I had the DWA510 myself, and threw it away after three days.
[13:08] <hayer> Will a service (that I wrote) which uses 30secs to startup get a timeout when booting?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> hayer: what would the timeout be caused by? what is it trying to do?
[13:10] <enchie> bekks, well when I lspci -v where it says Capabilities it states <access denied>. This isnt going to be doing any "heavy lifting" it's simply for my mom to go on facebook on a crappy 1mbps connection
[13:10] <creek> dfrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr[13:10] <creek> sorry, cat on keyboard..
[13:10] <bekks> enchie: Then check wether the driver is loaded, by setting up the connnection, etc.
[13:10] <PaRaD0xxR> creek: haha
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> hayer: services will continue to start even if the user has logged in etc, it doesnt give up because a user logged in, or the login prompt was presented before it completed
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[13:10] <hayer> ActionParsnip: Well, the service daemon uses about 30sec to start -- I thought the OS might kill it since it uses so long
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> hayer: as long as it is active, its fine. Just background the process so the boot doesn't hang
[13:11] <hayer> ActionParsnip: Ah, thats what I thought after reading the manpages, just had to be sure.
[13:11] <enchie> bekks, how do I go about that? lsmod?
[13:11] <bekks> enchie: Thats described in the link ubottu provided.
[13:12] <hayer> enchie: 1mbps connection? Well, if you really love your mum you should; a) Get her a better connection  b) Kill her
[13:13] <enchie> hayer, I live in South Africa, you gona come unmonopolise our telecoms industry for me?
[13:13] <hayer> pick one -- I went with A, now she is just watching netflix from 18:00 till she goes to bed.
[13:14] <hayer> enchie: sure. How much can you invest? I about 100bill dollars.
[13:14] <bekks> hayer: LOL. For that money, you get 5 wifi adapters.
[13:14] <enchie> hayer, some people arent over priviledged in this world please stop being trivial
[13:15] <hayer> enchie: So now I'm over priviledged? Since I work from 8 to 8.. bhrt.
[13:16] <enchie> hayer, not even going to respond anymore...
[13:16] <LjL> hayer: i'm not really seeing what may make you think your recent statements are appropriate for this channel
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !topic
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !ot
[13:22] <schnitzl> hi! :)   generel question: when setting up a server, is it recommended to make a new user for each service i want to run? e.g. i want to set up an irc bouncer, znc. so i create, lets say, a user called znc?
[13:23] <LjL> schnitzl: it tends to be a good idea i'd say, to the point a few service packages do it autoamtically when installed
[13:23] <LjL> schnitzl: though you may want to go even further with some services and run them in a sandbox, possibly
[13:24] <hayer> schnitzl: If you are going to run ZNC, get the latest stable from git. The one in package-repo is way too old
[13:24] <schnitzl> okay.
[13:24] <schnitzl> thx guys.
[13:25] <hellangel> hayer, the story of all packages in ubuntu :)
[13:25] <schnitzl> but...if i get the latest from git. do i have to compile it as user znc? i mean....i dont want to open ssh for user znc, but how to i compile as user znc and run it as user znc without opening ssh for user znc.
[13:26] <hellangel> schnitzl, connect however you want, "su znc"
[13:26] <schnitzl> okay. good. thats what i didnt get. then, later, i want to run znc via upstart
[13:27] <schnitzl> so. i create in /etc/init/znc.conf
[13:27] <schnitzl> is that all i have to do? cause right now its not working. :(( do i have to make chmod +x znc.conf ?
[13:27] <schnitzl> LjL: whats a good sandbox tool for console only?
[13:28] <hellangel> schnitzl, if you run ZNC as user ZNC, you might wanna put the config in your znc users home folder
[13:28] <schnitzl> exactly
[13:29] <LjL> schnitzl, a lightweight mechanism that's often used for console services is "chroot", which basically just involves a kernel mechanism to make your program see a specific directory as its entire filesystem
[13:29] <enchie> bekks, Im really lost, and new to this. the first step of the howto of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking and Im already a gonner, since im on lubuntu and the menu is completely different
[13:30] <schnitzl> LjL: yeeee. finally a understandable explaination of chroot. never understood whats this stuff for.
[13:30] <bekks> enchie: Did you check wether the driver isloaded and the interface is active?
[13:34] <schnitzl> hellangel: so. i create the user znc and config znc as user znc...then i put, to autostart, a script into /etc/init/znc.conf, right? is that all i have to do? cause right now its not working. :(( do i have to make chmod +x znc.conf ?
[13:36] <hellangel> schnitzl, you have to read a tutorial how to actually do it
[13:36] <hellangel> and not guess around ;)
[13:36] <hellangel> http://wiki.znc.in/Installation
[13:36] <FailDrain> is gtk 3.0 dev libraries installed on Ubuntu By default?
[13:36] <FailDrain> it's all very confusing
[13:36] <schnitzl> i tried to find some. the problem is, znc tuts just explain how to install it, but not from a point of view as a new special ZNC user in gerenal. :(
[13:37] <schnitzl> like the combination of new user + znc. i think its considered as basic knowledge...
[13:37] <hellangel> schnitzl, in general ZNC is _always_ run by a user named znc and all tutorials i have seen so far are suggesting to run it as another user
[13:38] <hellangel> if you install it as a package, the package will add the user znc etc
[13:38] <hellangel> also "ZNC is run by just executing znc under the dedicated znc user, at which stage it goes to background. It does not make an init.d service for itself nor does it need to be run in screen or something similar.
[13:38] <hellangel> "
[13:39] <schnitzl> ahhh. okay. means. if i just type "znc" in console as user schnitzl it executes znc as user znc? didnt know this is possible.
[13:42] <SirFunk_> so for some reason. Whenever I login after resuming from suspend, I stay logged in for about 15 seconds then it logs me back out and i have to login again. Any ideas what may cause this or how to fix it?
[13:43] <hellangel> schnitzl, read what i copypasted again ;)
[13:43] <hellangel> you dont run it as schnitzl, you run it as znc
[13:46] <schnitzl> not sure what it means..but thank you anyways :)
[13:47] <hellangel> schnitzl, probiers mal damit: http://irc-guide.de/wiki/Main/ZncInstallation
[13:47] <olf-folks> im trying out irssi, can any one hear me?
[13:47] <hellangel> olf-folks, no, but i read you just fine
[13:47] <schnitzl> danke
[13:47] <hellangel> schnitzl, gern
[13:47] <schnitzl> :)
[13:47] <olf-folks> hellangel: cool its working
[13:49] <docmur> does anyone know where to get a copy of the RT2870 driver?  I went to the webpage but there is link to the driver on the site
[13:52] <wicky> df -k
[13:52] <badass2> Yeah yeah
[13:52] <badass2> Hey all
[13:55] <docmur> had to leave for a second, back my question was where to find the rt2870 driver, the website for ra doens't have a link to it
[13:56] <A_J_> hello all. I'm suspecting my internet connection is disconnecting frequently. Can someone help me with a command to ping say google every minute and store these details into a text file with timestamps
[13:56] <vs8240> hi all
[13:56] <bekks> docmur: Did you follow the ubuntu docs for that driver?
[13:56] <ObrienDave> http://driverscollection.com/?H=RT2870&By=Ralink
[13:56] <docmur> the first step was to go and download the driver which wasn't available, unless I had the wrong doc
[13:57] <ObrienDave> that was easy
[13:57] <vs8240> I am having ubuntu 12.04 server installed as webserver and windows server 2008 installed as data server.
[13:58] <vs8240> I am having ubuntu 12.04 server installed as webserver and windows server 2008 installed as data server.Problem is when i call images from windows server in website. images does not appears in browser. while the both the servers are synchronized and shows the files and folders.
[14:00] <tester> can anyone help me with sed command
[14:01] <tester> join #gnome-shell
[14:01] <TauNeutrino> hey guys, the presentation worked out good, everything worked. But I need some reasons again why I use Ubuntu and why it's awesome. Any suggestions?
[14:02] <vs8240> I am having ubuntu 12.04 server installed as webserver and windows server 2008 installed as data server.Problem is when i call images from windows server in website. images does not appears in browser. while the both the servers are synchronized and shows the files and folders.  can anyone help
[14:02] <ObrienDave> FREE comes to mind ;)
[14:02] <elisuccia> xdcc send #
[14:02] <vs8240> I am having ubuntu 12.04 server installed as webserver and windows server 2008 installed as data server.Problem is when i call images from windows server in website. images does not appears in browser. while the both the servers are synchronized and shows the files and folders. can any one help
[14:02] <TauNeutrino> Ok but that's not so motivating
[14:03] <TauNeutrino> any other?
[14:03] <pbx> TauNeutrino - give context. who are you pitching?
[14:03] <ObrienDave> ok, how about you can do 98% of anything windows can do for FREE
[14:03] <TauNeutrino> pitching???
[14:04] <Danato> can i get some help on installing kde on my ubuntu?
[14:04] <TauNeutrino> Not sure what that means
[14:04]  * A_J_ looks for ActionParsnip
[14:04] <pbx> TauNeutrino - who are you trying to convince of ubuntu's awesomeness and why
[14:04] <Danato> i havent been very lucky with this channel lately
[14:05] <pbx> Danato - be more specific.  what did you try, what did you expect to happen, and what happened instead?
[14:05] <k1l_> Danato: install kubuntudesktop
[14:05] <k1l_> Danato: kubuntu-desktop
[14:06] <TauNeutrino> no wait, the presentation was good, but it was a bit slow(which was due to my poor laptop) and he said: What about useing windows? And I said "Good idead" just out of nervousity and stuff.  Ubuntu sometimes pisses me off, but I'm used to it, and sometimes I forget why I like it, sry for wall of text
[14:06] <gyre007> how can I create bridge on start ? I have the following in my /etc/network/interfaces but its not doing the job: https://gist.github.com/milosgajdos83/7354992
[14:06] <Danato> pbx: i installed kde-full which i thought it would include the desktop and it ddnt, so i installed kubuntu-desktop and still nothing
[14:06] <TauNeutrino> And not use windows where most stuff works out of the box
[14:06] <k1l_> Danato: now what? did you choose kubuntu on the login screen?
[14:07] <bool> someone willing to help me test something?
[14:07] <RandomTghts> hey can anyone help me install an nvidia driver
[14:07] <pbx> bool - don't ask to ask, just fire away with the details
[14:07] <Danato> k1l_: i ddnt check, give me a minute
[14:08] <bool> I want to see if my taskbar icon is as it should, I need a volunteer to send me some messages
[14:08] <bool> is flashing*
[14:09] <pizzasauce> how does alt+f2 launch applications? does it do it using symbolic links?
[14:10] <pbx> TauNeutrino - well, there's this.  top ten most destructive computer viruses (all windows based): http://goo.gl/bpC5Uc
[14:11] <geirha> pizzasauce: What do you mean?
[14:14] <pizzasauce> geirha: I need to launch chromium-browser with flags, so I created a global alias and modified chromium-browser.desktop. But the alt+f2 run application function just launches chromium-browser without flags. How does it do that?  I tried using the default file, but it didn't work.
[14:18] <geirha> pizzasauce: default file? if you want to run it via Alt+F2, you'll need a wrapper script. If you want to run it via a launcher, you just eidt chromium-browser.desktop
[14:19] <pizzasauce> geirha: chromium-browser has a default file in /etc/chromium-browser/ that let you add flags. but it didn't work for me.
[14:19] <jbwiv> guys, the time utility on 13.04 seems wonky. While the man page says options should come before the actual command you're typing, time refuses to recognize options and instead thinks they're the command you're trying to time. "$ time --help" yields "--help: command not found". Any ideas why this is or is it a bug I should report?
[14:20] <rigo88> hi. can you tell me what causes this at shutdown? https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/p240x240/1388128_10202155266062468_690962583_n.jpg?oh=c7bd8ad1ec5710409d2ac9742254d4f6&oe=527D91AF&__gda__=1383997930_9ca5d7ec1b697eef57e5a2892b68aada
[14:21] <cristian_c> Hi
[14:21] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[14:21] <OerHeks> rigo88, heat probably
[14:22] <rigo88> it comes only at this shutdown picture. and if i change to the "console" you know ctrl+alt+F1-F6
[14:23] <OerHeks> rigo88, those lines ?
[14:23] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[14:23] <rigo88> yop
[14:24] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[14:24] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[14:24] <OerHeks> rigo88, those lines could poit at a heat problem, or a bad videochip
[14:24] <OerHeks> c/point
[14:24] <royale1233> I'm switching to gnome shell. Unity is so buggy. Leaks memory all over the place.
[14:24] <rigo88> it cant in this case. what else can it be?
[14:25] <royale1233> Right now it's slower than win8!!!
[14:25] <usr13> royale1233: How about xfce?
[14:25] <den> asfdewdggfds
[14:25] <den> dsafdsf
[14:25] <lel> moin
[14:25] <usr13> royale1233: I doubt that.
[14:25] <edsffdsggfd> dsfgfdsg
[14:25] <rigo88> so it is definitely not heat or bad chip.
[14:25] <LjL> edsffdsggfd: please, don't flood
[14:25] <denpolsengmam> lel you little mutherfucker
[14:25] <LjL> !ops | denpolsengmam
[14:25] <lel> gz
[14:25] <denpolsengmam> i fucked your daughtetr
[14:26] <rigo88> any idea? or should i tell why it cant be heat/bad chip?
[14:26] <dem> hgfdshgfd
[14:26] <royale1233> usr13: Lemme try gnome shell first. usr13 , it is, compiz is taking up 75% of my ram.
[14:26] <yeehi> how do i launch the libre office database, Base?  Commonly found in ~?
[14:28] <royale1233> System freezes. Only way out is a hard reboot.
[14:28] <yeehi> Ah, Base isn't installed by default with a Libre-Office download. It can be installed from the software repositories...
[14:28] <Lockzi> I am reffering to .ssh .dropbox .subversion etc
[14:28] <usr13> Lockzi: file .directories  #See for yourself
[14:29] <usr13> royale1233: memtest
[14:29] <usr13> royale1233: (Test your RAM.)
[14:29] <Lockzi> usr13: What do you mean?
[14:29] <rigo88> so no chip/heat. then what?
[14:29] <OerHeks> Lockzi, those folders with a . usually have config files in it, and stuff you don't need to see
[14:29] <usr13> Lockzi: In a terminal, type   "file .directories"
[14:29] <Pici> Lockzi: Any file starting with a . are hidden from view when using the default ls flags.
[14:30] <usr13> Lockzi: ... and hit enter.
[14:30] <royale1233> usr13: My ram is fine. memtest too. Like I said, windows works fine. I'm pretty sure that it's due to unity failng to free up some buffers in compiz.
[14:30] <minimec> Lockzi: This are the folders with all the configurations of your personal session.
[14:30] <Lockzi> Ah! so the dot prefix hides it
[14:30] <tester> anyone helping me with sed command
[14:30] <tester> ?
[14:30] <Lockzi> I always use bash alias ls="ls -lah" so I always see those folders :)
[14:31] <Lockzi> Cheers guys
[14:31] <usr13> Lockzi: known_hosts and authorized_keys and other such useful files are kept in .ssh/
[14:31] <royale1233> Lockzi: they are usually used for storing config. More like user/appdata folders in windows.
[14:32] <Lockzi> Another question, in Ubuntu 13.04 when does the /tmp/ directory get cleaned?
[14:32] <usr13> Lockzi: The a swich will cause you to view hidden files and directories.
[14:32] <Lockzi> usr13: Yea, I know. That's why I have that bash alias. I just never realised that's what the dot prefix did... Hide the folder/files because of that alias :)
[14:33] <patb> Lockzi, as far as I know in all Debians, /tmp is cleared on reboot, and /var/tmp is NOT cleared on reboot
[14:33] <usr13> Lockzi: Yea, ditch the  a  switch and you won't be bothered by hidden directories.
[14:33] <Lockzi> patb: Isn't it the other way around?
[14:34] <Lockzi> Do all users have write permissions to /var/tmp? I need rTorrent to create a .sock file... And user level does not have access to /var/run
[14:34] <patb> I'm pretty sure......my /tmp is almost empty after a reboot (except on my Centos machines)
[14:35] <usr13> Lockzi: ls is your friend.  (Try the l  switch.)
[14:35] <pizzasauce> how do I remove applications from the alt+f2 run application program?
[14:35] <patb> /var/tmp is drwxrwxrwt on the Ubuntus I just checked (both 13.040
[14:35] <usr13> pizzasauce: You don't.
[14:35] <usr13> pizzasauce: ... and why would you?
[14:36] <Lockzi> patb: So is /var/tmp a good place for rTorrent to store the .socket?
[14:36] <patb> Lockzi, I usually create a subdirectory under /var/lib and put the socket in there....for example /var/lib/myTorrent
[14:37] <patb> Lockzi, and you'll need to widen the permissions on THAT folder
[14:37] <pizzasauce> usr13: well, I need to set it up so that chromium-browser goes through a proxy server. But alt+f2 just launches chromium-browser via PATH, i.e., I can't set the proxy flag.
[14:37] <Lockzi> patb: What octal permission would be suitable?
[14:37] <Lockzi> And should it be owned by root or the specific user?
[14:38] <patb> chmod 777 /var/lib/myTorrentFolder
[14:38] <Lockzi> I am having issues with that rTorrent is not able to create sockets - hence the question
[14:38] <patb> Lockzi, the folder that holds the socket needs to have rwx permissions, so that rTorrent can create the socket
[14:39] <Lockzi> patb: Yea, I gave it 777 :)
[14:39] <patb> Lockzi, if you can't get a /var/lib/myTorrent folder to work, go ahead with /var/tmp.....at least we KNOW that will work
[14:39] <usr13> pizzasauce: Alt-F2 by default will launch any application with any switches you desire.  (You type it in.)
[14:39]  * creek sits back, plays the banjo and read peoples problems..
[14:40] <Lockzi> So, I have created a user rtorrent. Can I just do mkdir /home/rtorrent to create the home folder for that user or would that mess it up?
[14:40] <tester> any shell experts here, who could help me?
[14:40] <usr13> tester: no
[14:41] <usr13> tester: ... just teasing.  Ask your question, (don't ask to ask).
[14:41] <TauNeutrino> ^^
[14:41] <patb> Lockzi, that should work; but if you created the user "rtorrent" using the Ubuntu gui, the /home/rtorrent directory probably exists already
[14:41] <TauNeutrino> What's the name of ubuntu chat??
[14:41] <tester> hi usr13
[14:41] <pizzasauce> usr13: yes, but the proxy server can be bypassed if you just type in without the flags, and this is not what I want.
[14:41] <TauNeutrino> chat channel
[14:41] <tester> i want to use sed command with variable in it
[14:41] <Lockzi> patb: I am using Ubuntu Server. I don't have x
[14:42] <Pici> TauNeutrino: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <TauNeutrino> thx
[14:42] <usr13> pizzasauce: What type of proxy are you using?
[14:42] <pizzasauce> usr13: privoxy
[14:42] <patb> Lockzi, ok, then make sure you "chown rtorrent:rtorrent /home/rtorrent"
[14:43] <whoever> hi all
[14:43] <usr13> pizzasauce: (We can not give you any specific advise unless you give us specific information about your network.)
[14:43] <usr13> pizzasauce: Using Alt-F2 is no different that doing it from a terminal.
[14:44] <pizzasauce> usr13: there is no network. the privoxy proxy server is installed on the same computer. the chromium-browser flag is --proxy-server=localhost:8118.
[14:44] <zhiyue> 呵呵
[14:44] <usr13> pizzasauce: Then that is what you would type into the run command.
[14:45] <usr13> pizzasauce: ...or you can create an alias for chromium
[14:45] <Guest29697> i have dual monitors and i have firefox with a youtube video playing on one monitor, but when i click on my second screen the video exits full screen, how can i prevnt that so that i can watch the video in full screen while working on the other screen
[14:45] <TauNeutrino> chromium O_o
[14:45] <usr13> pizzasauce: (or what ever browser you want to use)
[14:45] <usr13> pizzasauce: But not sure why you don't just use Firefox.
[14:46] <pizzasauce> usr13: yes, aliase works but only if you launch the browser in bash. The problem is if you try to launch it through alt+f2.
[14:47] <pizzasauce> usr13: if you try to launch through alt+f2, then alias is not used.
[14:47] <pbx> pizzasauce - write a wrapper script, as was suggested above.
[14:47] <pizzasauce> usr13: the application launches directly from PATH.
[14:48] <usr13> pizzasauce: then just apend  --proxy-server=localhost:8118
[14:48] <pizzasauce> pbx: how do i write a wrapper script for alt+f2?
[14:48] <limgeo13> hello everyone! i run sudo apt-get remove build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 and my entire apps and docs are gone. linux unbootable and files not present through livecd! any ideas for backup?
[14:49] <pbx> pizzasauce - "wrapper script" means that it is a script that runs chromium, but with your preferred flags. then launch that wrapper scipt with alt-f2
[14:49] <pizzasauce> usr13: append to a file, or just type it in the alt+f2 box?
[14:49] <usr13> pizzasauce: Just type it in
[14:50] <pizzasauce> pbx: how do i set it up so that alt+f2 would launch my script instead of the chromium-browser application?
[14:50] <pbx> pizzasauce - give your script its own, unique name
[14:50] <pbx> like 'pizzachromium' or whatever
[14:51] <pizzasauce> usr13: can't just type in - the user can just don't type the flag to bypass the proxy.
[14:51] <pizzasauce> pbx: yes, but if the user type chromimu-browser in the alt+f2 box, then would it just launch the browser w/o going through the proxy?
[14:51] <pbx> pizzasauce - wait, you're doing this to try to enforce a policy on the machine, not just as a conventience for yourself? that's a different question.