[00:23] <ThatsSoZiggy> Hey Everyone
[08:11] <cornjulio> hi all
[08:36] <cornjulio> can anyone tell me where program files are stored in ubuntu mate 18.04 need to find an ini file and edit it
[11:55] <newguy-1> Hi, I am fairly new to Linux and real new to chat. Thanks in advance for any help.
[11:56] <newguy-1> I have a dell pc and have bionic beaver installed and sometimes when I boot up the pc I do not have the internet. I reboot and it is available again... is there something I can do for this
[11:57] <newguy-1> Am I in the right place to ask this?
[11:58] <diogenes_> newguy-1, wifi/lan?
[11:58] <newguy-1> LAN
[11:58] <newguy-1> wired
[11:59] <diogenes_> how often does it happen?
[12:00] <newguy-1> I'd say an average of every other day. seems that once I have it when I shut down then get back on it's fine... usually at first boot in the morning
[12:01] <diogenes_> newguy-1, next time when it happens, try running in terminal: sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager
[12:01] <diogenes_> enter the password and hit enter
[12:02] <newguy-1> will try that. (copied the command)
[12:02] <diogenes_> ok
[12:02] <newguy-1> any idea what may cause it?
[12:03] <diogenes_> if that command will help to revive the internet, then it might be some configuration related, if the command doesn't help, then thre might be something on kernel level/driver related and so on.'
[12:03] <newguy-1> sorry, someone at the door got to go...  THANKS!!


[07:17] <Saviq> Good morning o/
[07:59] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq requested a review from wmww for [pull request #2879](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2879): Allow "attached" windows to be "restored" by drag gesture
[09:13] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq assigned  to [pull request #2745](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2745): snap,ci: migrate to 22.04 / `base: core22`
[09:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/ubuntu-frame-osk]** Saviq closed [pull request #48](https://github.com/MirServer/ubuntu-frame-osk/pull/48): snap: refresh dependencies
[09:17] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/ubuntu-frame-osk]** Saviq opened [pull request #53](https://github.com/MirServer/ubuntu-frame-osk/pull/53): snap: refresh squeekboard
[09:18] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq closed [issue #2863](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2863): Mir crashes when cyclic parent-child relationships created
[11:08] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq assigned  to [pull request #2856](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2856): cmake: modernize find_package and use imported targets
[16:02] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq closed [issue #2799](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2799): Occasional abort when exiting
[16:24] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq assigned wmww to [issue #2873](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2873): Mir crashing on `Failed to submit frame from EGLStream for display: Unknown error (0x3353)`
[16:41] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths opened [pull request #2880](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2880): Drop the dispmanx platform
[16:41] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[16:41] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Just admitting it: this is dead
[16:42] <Saviq> RAOF (he/they) not sure how far you're into this, but 👆
[16:56] <Saviq> Good night o/
[17:27] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2879](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2879): Allow "attached" windows to be "restored" by drag gesture


[03:56] <dupingping> hi everyone.
[03:56] <dupingping> How can i setup launchpad on my local server?
[09:15] <cjwatson> dupingping: https://dev.launchpad.net/Running - that's mainly for test instances though, if you plan to expose it to the world then you will want to talk over the details with us first since that's much harder to get right
[09:15] <dupingping> cjwatson: yes, let me try.


[11:03] <FoxHound01> is there someone who knows how to setup access control and authentication on the cgi-bin directory in apache2?
[11:13] <Kolan> the same way as setting up a access control for every webfolder in apache..
[11:15] <Kolan> Fox: this might help you out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-c353cd3c0a06dae032ab869150ffab7911ede57e
[11:38] <FoxHound01> where would ubuntu keep an Apache2 config file for SSL servers?
[11:39] <FoxHound01> because my htaccess works on http but not on https
[11:45] <infinity> Are you sure you're using apache2 for SSL, and not, say, a completely different webserver (like apache-ssl)?
[11:45] <infinity> That seems to be a common mistake.
[11:45] <infinity> If you never set up apache2 for SSL, you're probably not using it, since it's not configured for SSL out of the box (currently)
[11:57] <FoxHound01> i set it up for apache2
[11:59] <FoxHound01> wait
[11:59] <FoxHound01> i think so
[11:59] <FoxHound01> how would i set it up for apache2?
[11:59] <FoxHound01> because i only have apache2 installed, and can connect to my server using SSL
[12:00] <FoxHound01> hmm
[12:00] <FoxHound01> i have...
[12:00] <FoxHound01> wow
[12:01] <FoxHound01> im confuzed
[12:01] <FoxHound01> apache2-common, apache-common, apache-perl, apache-ssl
[12:01] <FoxHound01> packages installed
[12:01] <FoxHound01> but NOT "apache"
[12:01] <FoxHound01> so am i running apache 2 or apache 1.3?
[12:03] <infinity> Both.
[12:04] <infinity> Or, wait.
[12:04] <infinity> You don't have any "apache2-mpm-*" package installed at all?
[12:05] <infinity> Then you have two versoins of apache1.3 installed (apache-perl and apache-ssl)
[12:05] <infinity> And no apache2 at all.
[12:47] <FoxHound01> i got it all figured out
[12:48] <FoxHound01> apache1.3 was doing the ssl, while apache2 was doing the port 80 http
[12:48] <FoxHound01> lol, night
[12:53] <spike> I thought apache1.3 wasnt even available on dapper...
[12:53] <spike> maybe he was running breezy
[12:54] <infinity> It's still in universe.
[12:54] <spike> ah, I see
[12:54] <infinity> It'll take a long time to kill every apache1.3 installation in the world.
[12:57] <spike> speaking of, I while ago I sent an email, with patch attached, about some comments on apache2 defaults...
[12:57] <spike> never got a reply :/
[12:57] <spike> at least some comment like "you sux" would been appreciated :)
[12:58] <Toadstool> hi here
[12:58] <infinity> spike: Sent it to whom?
[12:58] <spike> because that's what I'm doing, so if the ideas are wrong I'd benefited from confrontation anyway
[12:58] <spike> infinity: to the server ml
[12:58] <infinity> Must have been before I got around to subscribing.
[12:58] <spike> benefit*
[12:59] <infinity> Erm, you seem confused.
[01:00] <spike> ok :)
[01:00] <infinity> mod_vhost has nothing to do with being able to see /doc/ ...
[01:00] <Toadstool> i'm trying to improve my wide-dhcpv6 package... what do you think the default configuration for the client should be? stateful conf or stateless one (only dns info for example), assuming the address is obtained using stateless autoconf?
[01:01] <infinity> In fact, mod_vhost really has nothing to do with anything except mass virtual hosting.
[01:02] <infinity> spike: Your first two points (about the misplacement of configuration for "/" and "NameVirtualHost") are well taken, though, and I'll probably move those around a bit for the 2.2.x package, but won't touch the established settings in the 2.0.x series.
[01:02] <infinity> spike: But, mod_vhost_alias has NOTHING to do with NameVirtualHost. :)
[01:03] <infinity> spike: Simple Name and IP virtual hosting works without any modules loaded.
[01:04] <spike> ah, doh!
[01:06] <infinity> Well, I'll admit that after adminstering apache sites for over a decade, and hacking directly on apache for about half that, I don't tend to really know where it may be "hard" or "confusing", because I know it inside out and backwards.
[01:07] <infinity> So suggestions (filed as wishlist bugs in either Debian or Ubuntu) on how to make things make more sense to first time users will be considered (though not always implemented, I'll admit)
[01:10] <Toadstool> no opinion about my question? too bad, i'll toss a coin ;)
[01:12] <spike> infinity: maybe I misunderstood you, but would you say that's the case for "/" and "NameVirtualHost" comments too? exepecially "/" imho looks more like a config design error than "things made easier for first time user". So I'd rather file / and NameVirtualhost as bugs, and /doc and default vhost as wishlist for "first time user". what do you think about that?
[01:12] <infinity> Toadstool: Not really, no.
[01:13] <spike> 's*
[01:13] <infinity> spike: The default vhost's DocumentRoot is set the way it is on purpose (including not having the RedirectMatch enabled by default, because it confused a lot of first time users), so please don't file that one again. :)
[01:14] <Toadstool> well i'll try to find an IPv6 guru ^^
[01:14] <Toadstool> thanks anyhow
[01:14] <infinity> spike: /doc/ works here, so I'd like to see why it's not workign for you.
[01:14] <infinity> spike: The misplacement of "/" and "NameVirtualHost" are on my TODO, and will be fixed in the 2.2.x SVN repo, so no point in filing them (no, I won't fix them the 2.0.x, because I don't feel the urge to upend people's expectations of hor the config works on a minor version bump)
[01:15] <infinity> ie: If people upgrade from 2.0.54 in breezy to 2.0.56 in dapper, I'd prefer not to surprise them too much with config changes.
[01:15] <spike> infinity: fine for me, tnx.
[01:15] <infinity> But when they go to 2.2.x in dapper+1, they should be expecting some major changes anyway, so that's the time to fix the more annoying oopses.


[00:33] <JontheEchidna> can I get some Intrepid X help here?
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> X doesn't start; it complains about not finding the dri2 moduel
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> even after I start with a clean xorg.conf
[00:34] <JontheEchidna> ...and removed nvidia-glx-96
[00:37] <JontheEchidna> bah
[00:37] <JontheEchidna> got /disco'd
[01:59] <RAOF> JontheEchidna: Yes, it complains about dri2; but that's harmless.
[01:59] <JontheEchidna> well, X wasn't starting :P
[01:59] <JontheEchidna> I ended up doing a fresh install
[01:59] <JontheEchidna> yay for /home on separate partitions
[02:00] <RAOF> So, that's your problem.  X won't start with nvidia-glx-96 or -78, because the driver doesn't work with Xserver 1.5
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> oh
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> well it didn't work after I uninstalled the driver and reconfig'd xserver
[02:13] <JontheEchidna> Man, the nv drivers are blazingly fast
[02:14] <RAOF> My sarcasm detector is uncalibrated for IRC.  That's sarcasm, right?
[02:14] <JontheEchidna> nope
[02:15] <JontheEchidna> everything feels more responsivd
[02:15] <JontheEchidna> *responsive
[02:15] <RAOF> Than the binary driver?  I find that hugly surprising.
[02:15] <RAOF> Or than vesa?
[02:15] <JontheEchidna> than nvidia-glx
[02:16] <JontheEchidna> maybe it's the fresh-installness effect
[02:16] <RAOF> So, I find that highly surprising.
[02:18] <RAOF> What card do you have?
[02:20] <JontheEchidna> GeForce 4 MX 440 (64 MB vram)
[02:21] <RAOF> Mmm.
[02:21] <RAOF> Love that Geforce 2 :)
[02:21] <JontheEchidna> yeah...
[02:21] <JontheEchidna> I have a VooDoo 2 in the basement
[02:21] <RAOF> You could also try !nouveau if you wanted more features and speed out of your 2d.
[02:21] <JontheEchidna> Inside a pentium 2
[02:22] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, nouveau might be worth a shot
[02:23] <JontheEchidna> but currently I'm upgrading from alpha 3 -> current ;-)
[02:23] <JontheEchidna> ...and getting 20 kB/s
[02:25] <jbroome_> i have a voodoo 5500 upstairs.  that thing is huge
[02:29] <lymeca> I have 2.6.26 and it won't boot because of the error PCI: Not using MMConfig
[02:29] <lymeca> So I have to use 2.6.24 from hardy
[05:02]  * No1Viking is away: BBL
[05:02] <RAOF> !away > No1Viking
[05:38] <sisto> !away
[09:50] <askand> Is it true that openjdk will be default in Intrepid?
[09:52] <RAOF> Yes, it already is so.
[09:54] <askand> RAOF: Ah, I see, but that is not the same as icedteajava?
[09:55] <RAOF> I dunno.  Icedtea was only ever meant to be temporary, IIUC.
[09:58] <askand> Apparently the IcedTea package in Ubuntu and Feodora has been renamed to OpenJDK
[09:59] <askand> Then I hope they fix the bug stopping people from logging in to the Swedish tax-agency
[11:37] <tanath> i'm having serious issues with the winbind package
[11:37] <tanath> can anyone help?
[11:37] <tanath> it's messed up, and now i can't upgrade or anything
[11:38] <tanath> http://pastebin.ca/1090748
[11:38] <G_009> i got an error status 2 about it. it is broken at the moment
[11:39] <tanath> quite
[11:39] <tanath> and it's preventing me from doing anything with other packages too
[11:40] <tanath> ie., upgrading
[11:40] <G_009> flash 10 got broken as well since friday's update
[11:41] <tanath> mine doesn't seem to be having too much trouble...
[11:41] <tanath> just a couple issues i noticed from the start after upgrading
[11:41] <tanath> white artifcats on black, and displaying underneath iframes in firefox & seamonkey, instead of over like it used to
[11:42] <tanath> no probs with the package itself though
[11:43] <tanath> any idea how to fix this winbind issue?
[11:43] <G_009> this is on my i386 test puter .. 64bit is bulletproof so far
[11:43] <tanath> i386 here too
[11:43] <G_009> nope
[11:43] <tanath> >.<
[12:09] <tanath> can't even forcefully remove the damned thing
[12:39] <fde> tanath: It tells you in the error what to do... in the postinst script, remove the ;; and try again
[12:39] <fde> tanath: wait, no... in the /etc/init.d/winbind script... 'status' section... do that
[12:40] <fde> tanath: only the one between the lines starting 'status_of_proc' and 'echo "Usage' though
[12:41] <fde> tanath: then apt-get -f install or whatever (apt-get upgrade again will do it too) and voila, no more issue.
[12:43] <G_009> are you saying update-manager is at fault and winbind is not broken then?
[12:44] <fde> G_009: No, that script has incorrect syntax, and the package manager can't correct it.
[12:44] <fde> G_009: That file is part of that package, so in essence, the package is indeed broken.
[12:44] <G_009> i c
[12:47] <fde> G_009: Of course, editing /etc/init.d/winbind then running update-manager again would also be another alternative way to "fix" the issue, proving that update-manager has nothing to do with it...
[12:49] <G_009> right
[12:51] <G_009> there are some daily updates i wanna check, but if the issue is still there i might give that workaround a go
[12:51] <G_009> effectively, there is a winbind update
[12:52]  * G_009 crosses fingers
[12:52] <fde> G_009: I'm entirely up-to-date currently, and the issue still persisted... although I'm not using the main servers, so maybe they haven't propagated yet
[12:55] <gnomefreak> you didnt read the topic before trying to upgrade?
[12:55] <G_009> "new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[12:56] <fde> gnomefreak: huh?
[12:56] <fde> G_009: still complaining about line 54?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> fde: intrepid is broken the error you are getting isnt update-manager but a package error
[12:57] <G_009> line 54 again
[12:57] <gnomefreak> and we do NOT recommend users upgrade at this time.  should explain it
[12:57] <fde> gnomefreak: I'm not getting the error, I fixed the issue already... and am trying to advise G_009 on how to fix it too.
[12:57] <G_009> gnomefreak: you're a little late in the convo
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ah ok well whom ever is getting it
[12:58] <gnomefreak> G_009: i cant sit here and watch all day i have 27 other channels to watch
[12:58] <fde> G_009: See above, remove the first ;; from the status stanza in /etc/init.d/winbind and try again.
[12:59] <fde> gnomefreak: then you shouldn't chime in with less than useful comments...
[13:00] <gnomefreak> fde: usefull comment == do not upgrade intrepid is broken  unuseful comment == upgrade it works for me
[13:00] <G_009> sure.. i'll try later though.. in reality am not really affected by winbind breakage..  cool to know a way around it nonetheless
[13:00] <fde> gnomefreak: If no one uses the devel branch, it will be released in a more buggy state... anyone should be able to use it provided they aren't in a production environment.
[13:00] <fde> gnomefreak: No one said "upgrade it works for me"
[13:01] <gnomefreak> fde: no that isnt true testing starting at beta 1 is for users to test alpha is not for users due to the ever changing apps
[13:01] <gnomefreak> fde: it was an example
[13:02] <G_009> i know you are not ill willed, gnomefreak .. but you are still off in your own context right now
[13:02] <fde> gnomefreak: meh... well I was advising someone of a relatively simple fix for an annoying issue... that he isn't fixing it now proves that maybe he shouldn't be using a devel branch... I have used sid and experimental since 2000 or so, I'm used to breakages
[13:02] <gnomefreak> G_009: your system isnt broken?
[13:03] <G_009> not quite.. just recently flash and this winbind issue..
[13:03] <gnomefreak> sid is nothing like our devel branch think of it more like experimental in debian
[13:03] <fde> gnomefreak: No, one package is broken, and I provided a simple fix... so it is his own decision that the system is still not fixed... this tells me he is intimidated by the fix, and thus shouldn't be using unstable systems.
[13:03] <fde> gnomefreak: uhh... I stated experimental
[13:03] <gnomefreak> fde: no alot are broken just one package that you use is broken
[13:04] <G_009> am not intimidated by the fix.. i just dont wanna do it now.. jeez..
[13:04] <gnomefreak> fde: i know but sid isnt like our devel branch was my point
[13:04]  * G_009 passes fde a shoe
[13:05] <fde> gnomefreak: I have encountered less breakage in Ubuntu's devel branch than in Sid over the years  :/
[13:05] <gnomefreak> if that error happened during upgrade to intrepid from hardy i wouldnt put it off or atleast run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:05] <fde> gnomefreak: that would do _nothing_
[13:05] <gnomefreak> fde: depends on what you use it for
[13:05] <gnomefreak> fde: yes that would configure all other packages
[13:06] <gnomefreak> that may have not been
[13:06] <gnomefreak> fde: normal every day upgrade no you are right but from hardy to intrepid other packages might not be configured due to failure
[13:06] <fde> gnomefreak: ugh, you're not getting it, and you're not being helpful at all... the error is as good as fixed, your assistance isn't required.
[13:06] <gnomefreak> dfon your system
[13:07] <gnomefreak> fde: on your system
[13:07] <gnomefreak> fde: his it is not
[13:07] <fde> gnomefreak: on _all_ systems, considering I told him the fix  >:|
[13:07] <gnomefreak> if kernel wasnt configured he wont beable to boot it
[13:07] <fde> gnomefreak: it's not like it would have removed older kernels though.
[13:07] <gnomefreak> fde: if he shuts it down without dbus kernel or others he might not beable to boot in regual mode
[13:08] <G_009> i didnt just upgrade to 8.10 i've been on it since alpha1.. relax
[13:08] <gnomefreak> hint easie rot run the command and not worry about why it wont boot later
[13:08] <fde> gnomefreak: lol, you're making a huge issue out of something _really_ simple... stop
[13:08] <gnomefreak> G_009: thats why i said if it was hardy to interpid upgrade
[13:08] <gnomefreak> fde: my comment was to G_009 not meant for you.
[13:09] <G_009> duly noted
[13:09] <fde> gnomefreak: he has already stated nothing else is wrong with his system.
[13:10] <fde> G_009: Please do the fix I told you so this can be dropped, thanks.... it'll take like 5 secs... it's at the bottom of the file
[13:10] <gnomefreak> fde: and your point? i was giving him helpful hints but you think i am wrong but i cant say i am since i know my devel cycle seeing as i well am a dev
[13:10] <fde> gnomefreak: So because I am not a MOTU or Core dev, I can't know it as well as you?
[13:11] <gnomefreak> fde: im not neither either but i package for ubuntu. that isnt my point. once i again i said if you upgraded from hardy to intrepid it should be fixed
[13:11]  * G_009 sits back to watch cat fight
[13:11] <gnomefreak> not meant for daily updates
[13:12] <fde> gnomefreak: At times, what you're saying is very valid, but this isn't one of them... it is a simple syntax error in a very basic script... no one has stated they upgraded to intrepid while the issue was applicable.
[13:13] <fde> gnomefreak: Currently, all you're doing is blowing something out of proportion.
[13:13] <gnomefreak> fde: seing as i didnt see the whole thing due to other things i have to have done this weeke3nd it was a very valid comment since i didnt see him say he was on intrepid for a while
[13:14] <gnomefreak> fde: you can stop anytime you like or i will stop it all together but you midunderstood what i said/meant and it wasnt to you anyway
[13:14] <fde> gnomefreak: So your ignorance to the topic at hand makes it ok to blow it out of proportion, especially seeing as though when you chimed in, on the same screen - not even requiring a scroll up - was the fix?
[13:14] <G_009> argumentatively i have to add that was not where the convo started either
[13:16] <gnomefreak> fde: im sorry you ffeel me giving him a hint was bad. but you really shouldnt have a problem with him running it since it cant hurt him. and yes you are right maybe he shouldnt be running it but he is
[13:16] <G_009> all is good, though .. am still typing which probably means am still logged in somewhere
[13:17] <gnomefreak> fde: oh and be careful with the words you throw around please
[13:17] <fde> gnomefreak: I'm saying telling him he shouldn't run intrepid, and giving him advise that wasn't applicable, wasn't necessary.
[13:17] <gnomefreak> i didnt say he shouldnt i said read topic and than gave the portion of the topic i meant
[13:18] <gnomefreak> read topic before upgrade
[13:19] <G_009> but i didnt upgrade.. i did a fresh install.. so i dont know.. maybe you're confusing me with someone else.. too many #rooms.. i know..
[13:19] <fde> gnomefreak: the topic provides scare tactics to avoid most from running intrepid... since warty, I have ran only the devel stuff with little issue. I agree many Ubuntu users shouldn't even consider it, but he has and his current issue is easily fixed.
[13:19] <gnomefreak> G_009: like i said since i couldnt/didnt read the full log i wasnt able to see that part and the command is valid either way just less breakage if you didnt upgrade from hardy when this happened
[13:20] <gnomefreak> fde: no it doesnt. you feel comfortable running it but others should be careful if they cant fix it
[13:21] <gnomefreak> it doesnt say dont upgrade it says we recommend that you dont
[13:21] <fde> gnomefreak: Exactly, but we can't change the fact that he is running it, as is the initial complainer... neither should be if they can't decipher a simple error, but it's not our say really.
[13:22] <gnomefreak> fde: i didnt say he shouldnt run it that was yoru comment but either way go ahead and help him if he wants it
[13:22] <fde> gnomefreak: I already had before you even stated anything...
[13:22] <fde> gnomefreak: which in lies my current real issue with you  :P
[13:22] <gnomefreak> fde: well i hope he can remember it than
[13:23] <gnomefreak> fde: my issue was he didnt fix it and since he didnt it can cause other packages from being configured
[13:23]  * gnomefreak didnt ask for a list of what upgrade he is doing
[13:23] <gnomefreak> i havent had updates today
[13:23] <gnomefreak> oh yes i did update-manager
[13:24] <fde> gnomefreak: then he should live and learn... maybe the resulting breakage will deter him from running devel stuff in the future... which I think you'll agree is probably for the best
[13:24] <G_009> look, i wasnt like "oh my gosh, please help!!"  .. i was just commenting on it and fde came along; we were just talking about it.. winbind breakage doesnt affect my 'productivity' whatsoever..  if you were under the impression i was screaming for help on this issue you're pretty much wrong
[13:24] <fde> gnomefreak: winbind's last 2 upgrades have had the same syntax error in the status stanza
[13:24] <gnomefreak> i do agree maybe he shouldnt but i dont know his knowledge of packages/files filesystems
[13:25] <G_009> you two already assumed i dont know nothing .. so
[13:25] <fde> G_009: I know, but the person I originally replied to was... you simply wanted clarification, but the issue was relatively simple, and you were unable to decipher it... and indeed guessed an issue that was entirely off base.
[13:25]  * gnomefreak doesnt use winbind
[13:25] <gnomefreak> G_009: neither of us said that
[13:26] <fde> gnomefreak: intrepid seems to turn it on by default... it is basically DNS for CIFS... so if you don't encounter windows boxes, you shouldn't need it...
[13:26] <fde> gnomefreak: in saying that, seeing ugly errors spurted out all over the screen bothers me, so I _have_ to find a fix... it's part of the fun I enjoy with Linux  :)
[13:26] <gnomefreak> fde: out of 7 pcs one runs winxp and thats only so i can help friends in the middle of night yelling it broke
[13:28] <fde> If I ran only stable branches, I'd probably wander back to Windows as Linux would become boring to me.
[13:29] <G_009> as a side note, i didnt encounter winbind issue on 64bit
[13:30] <fde> G_009: That's pretty strange, are the version numbers the same on both archs?
[13:31] <fde> gnomefreak: I only help Windows users if they pay me to do so... they're used to such things costing money  :)
[13:31] <G_009> yup.. just checked.. same version on both architectures
[13:32] <fde> Helping Linux users is my primary way of giving back though...
[13:32] <fde> G_009: cat /etc/init.d/winbind | tail -n10  ... throw that up on paste.ubuntu.com for me please
[13:33] <G_009> from ?
[13:33] <fde> G_009: the 64bit machine, sorry
[13:37] <G_009> http://pastebin.com/m6b221f4b
[13:39] <G_009> it is the exact same thing on both system too
[13:44] <fde> G_009: Very strange... hmm
[13:44] <G_009> yup
[13:45] <fde> G_009: For future reference though, state the users nick when replying... I had gone to a different channel awaiting your response...
[13:46] <fde> G_009: I have no idea though why one system would complain while the other doesn't... makes absolutely no sense
[13:46] <G_009> yah.. the wonders of computerization
[14:45] <GSMX> to use intrepid in vmware you'll have to disable the module snd_pcsp with modprobe -r snd_pcsp, but after every reboot, it loads the module again, how can i stop this?
[14:47] <Hobbsee> GSMX: blacklist it
[14:48] <Hobbsee> GSMX: see /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, iirc.
[14:48] <GSMX> thanks
[15:08] <Bodsda> hey guys. what alpha version is intrepid at?
[15:09] <zniavre1> 3?
[15:10] <Bodsda> sounds good, cheers zniavre1
[15:10] <zniavre1> closed too fast ...
[15:10] <Bodsda> hehe ;~)
[15:13] <fde> Hobbsee: Any idea why that module is being loaded now? It also through me on a normal desktop system... if there is a soundcard detected, it should always take priority over the pc speakers imo...
[15:14] <Hobbsee> yes, it's a bug.
[15:15] <fde> Hobbsee: hmm, ok... I had already fixed it the first time I was trying to figure out why my music wasn't coming from the speakers... heh... was just really strange
[16:19] <afflux> huh gnome/x ignores my nodeadkeys setting.
[16:20] <afflux> gnome most likely, since xev shows ^ immediatly
[16:22] <afflux> well, gnome-keyboard-properties refuses to set the "default layout", just ignores my clicks. I guess that's the cause.
[16:56] <afflux> humm, setting the "default layout" does not solve this issue. Starting a new plain X (xinit -display :1 -- -ac :1) did have the correct layout set. Any ideas?
[17:40] <askand> Is NM 0.7 in Intrepid?
[17:43] <zniavre1> 0.6.6 here
[17:44] <zniavre1> nm-applet?
[17:45] <zniavre1> same in fact
[17:46] <askand>  zniavre1: I see, thanks
[17:55] <cypherdelic> uh upgrading ibex since an hour or so, still not readz, just finished nvidia proprie
[17:56] <cypherdelic> now i applz the updates that wants certain packages to be uninstalled 588 new, 11 to be uninstalled
[17:56] <cypherdelic> how to fix my keyboard layout??
[17:56] <cypherdelic> its english z__
[17:57] <cypherdelic> i want it to be de_DE
[17:57] <cypherdelic> including GDM
[18:37] <tanath> fde: your winbind edit does not work
[18:37] <tanath> fde: and it's complaining about a ) not the ;;
[18:39] <tanath> G_009: did you manage to get winbind fixed?
[18:43] <tanath> anyone know how to fix the winbind package? i can't do anything until it's fixed
[18:58] <Hew> tanath: rm /etc/init.d/winbind
[18:58] <tanath> that does it?
[18:59] <tanath> sweet
[18:59] <Hew> did it for me :-)
[19:00] <tanath> Hew: that worked. thanks :)
[19:00] <Hew> tanath: no worries, glad I could help
[19:02] <cypherdelic> so here i am running with fully current ibex and got one issue: my keyboard has got keys for volume up and down and mute, after ibex they dont work anymore any ideas?
[19:04] <tanath> cypherdelic: mine stopped working too
[19:05] <tanath> even have a gnome media keys script. still don't work
[19:05] <tanath> i think it's the keyboard layout
[19:05] <tanath> a couple people were complaining earlier about kb layout not working right too
[19:05] <cypherdelic> hm i already fixed mine from us back to de in xorg.conf
[19:05] <cypherdelic> :(
[19:06] <cypherdelic> damn that was my best way to dontrol volume from my couch :D
[19:06] <tanath> haha
[19:07] <tanath> a number of things have stopped working since upgrading :P
[19:07] <tanath> my scroll wheel doesn't work right anymore either
[19:07] <cypherdelic> what else?
[19:07] <cypherdelic> tanath: bad, im a lucker cus emin eworks
[19:07] <tanath> at least the thumb buttons work in Fx
[19:08] <tanath> though not in nautilus/dolphin or anything else anymore
[19:08] <G_009> generic 105-key (intl) PC layout here.. volume keys work (desktop keyboard)
[19:08] <cypherdelic> i just miss keyboard volume buttons
[19:08] <tanath> i can scroll in a few gnome apps when the curser is right over the scroll bar, and sometimes it'll scroll horizontally...
[19:08] <tanath> heh, i miss my scroll wheel more :P
[19:08] <cypherdelic> G_009: how can i fix mine?
[19:10] <G_009> i dont know.. but thats the layout that i got and it works, maybe you should try it
[19:11] <cypherdelic> G i had that selected too so that is not causing problems
[19:11] <tanath> my 'default' is generic 104
[19:11] <tanath> i have an ms kb, but not one that seems to fit the given ms models. and i can't find out which it is anymore
[19:11] <tanath> can no longer find it on the site
[19:13] <tanath> i don't get why the kb shortcuts don't work though. it detects the keys in the kb shortcut applet, but then doesn't do anything when i press them
[19:13] <G_009> btw, i did rm /etc/init.d/winbind and it worked here too.. easier than "editing" anything
[19:13] <tanath> indeed
[19:15] <cypherdelic> G_009: can i safely execute that command too???
[19:16] <G_009> sure.. IF you are having the winbind bug
[19:16] <tanath> even if not, you could always reinstall winbind if it were a prob
[19:17] <cypherdelic> G_009: you didnt highlighted anyone, is this related to our keyboard shortcut bugs?
[19:17] <G_009> winbind is not a keyboard issue.. thats something else..
[19:18] <cypherdelic> G_009:  to who were you talking this rm winbind????
[19:18] <G_009> tanath and i had the same issue.. that fixed it
[19:19] <tanath> G_009: yeah, same here. saw your earlier comment too :)
[19:19] <G_009> that wasnt directed to you, cypherdelic
[19:19] <tanath> cypherdelic: winbind package was broken
[19:20] <cypherdelic> hm so you dont have a idea how we can fix our shortcut probs? i can press that keys in keyboard shutcuts too and they get detected
[19:21] <cypherdelic> tanath:
[19:21] <tanath> not sure
[20:19] <kane77> I wanted to test intrepid in virtualbox, but I always get kernel panic when booting from the cd.. (I downloaded images from the linux tracker)
[20:49] <cypherdelic> My Keyboard Shortcuts still doesnt work since upgraded to Ibex, any ideas?
[21:12] <afflux> kane77: that's a known issue
[21:12] <afflux> kane77: let me find the bug report
[21:13] <afflux> kane77: bug 246067
[21:40] <kane77> afflux, thanx.. I was getting desperate and downloaded more than 4 different iso's :D
[21:40] <afflux> hehe
[21:40] <kane77> it's not that fun with 60KB/s :)
[21:43] <kane77> afflux, hmm one advice in the bug page helped to make it boot.. but it's rather sluggish..
[21:44] <afflux> kane77: yes. It didn't work for me, iirc, but haven't tested that very extensive
[21:46] <kane77> actually it's not running, it freeze :(
[21:46] <kane77> guess I'll wait till it's fixed
[22:07] <krijali> Sry to bother everyone but I'm having Prevu problems and was directed here (although I'm using 8.04 at the moment). I used Apt-get to install it, and when I attempt 'sudo -E prevu-init' I get the following: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/prevu/builds/10290/. mount -t proc proc /proc (then says pbuilder: debootstrap failed). I can give more context if anyone would have a guess
[22:21] <krijali> anyone?
[22:27] <exco> Hi everybody
[22:28] <exco> do the ati (fglrx) drivers already work with the new Xserver?
[22:49] <JontheEchidna> RAOF: is your ppa the preferred way of getting nouveau?
[23:02] <cypherdelic> My Keyboard Shortcuts still doesnt work since upgraded to Ibex, any ideas?


[00:58] <EggSpurt> guys LAST TIME I install 20 my battery stopped charging and I had to sdend my laptop for repair, is there some bug or was this just a normal hardwares failure? HP did not specify the cause they just sent the laptop back
[00:58] <EggSpurt> does Ubuntu 20 break the firmwarez?
[01:20] <kinghat> is 20.04 supposed to be faster on older systems? I have a core 2 duo Dell laptop
[01:21] <kinghat> it struggles but might toss 20.04 on it and see if it does any better
[01:21] <kinghat> think I have neon on it currently
[01:29] <Bashing-om> kinghat: (x)ubuntu 20.04 does adbirably for me on this ole dual core Athlon system.
[01:30] <Bashing-om> *admire
[01:30] <kinghat> never used xubuntu
[01:31] <kinghat> stay away from stock?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> kinghat: Just say'n - For my mind set xfce for the DE works well.
[01:33] <kinghat> 👌 I'll give her a go
[01:34] <kinghat> what's xfce built on?
[01:36] <Bashing-om> kinghat: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce as the DE.
[01:41] <kinghat> i just meant what is it built on, Qt?
[01:42] <kinghat> anyways i think i was running the laptop OS off a usb stick vs the hdd inside it
[01:44] <Bashing-om> kinghat: Do not recall the build - running on a USB stick will be slow as the USB speed is that limiting factor.
[01:56] <kinghat> ew centrino 2 😂
[02:00] <kinghat> I think I was using the USB stick as the drive so the laptop didn't get so hot
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:19] <kinghat> o/
[02:19] <kinghat> it's got SATA.. wonder if I can replace this things HDD for small SSD
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> hey kinghat
[02:20] <kinghat> just installing xubunto 20 on this old af Dell laptop
[02:22] <kinghat> xubuntu
[02:26] <Bashing-om> kinghat: Well - I did replace my HDD with a SSD , got to enable AHCI, can  be a real trick to figure out how on old hardware.
[02:27] <kinghat> ya that's what SATA is currently set to in the BIOS. I had to get in there for a sec.
[02:31] <kinghat> should just pop in a x86 SOC in the cavity and figure out how to use the laptops screen and keyboard.
[02:31] <kinghat> there battery is already shot and I just run it off direct power
[02:34] <kinghat> the*
[02:36] <aliendude5300> Not sure if known bug, but Dash to Dock settings does not work on stock Ubuntu 12.04 installation. If you right click the "Show Applications",  click settings, it'll trigger an error indicating gnome-shell-extension-prefs is missing.
[02:38] <aliendude5300> 20.04** Not 12.04. I've been using Ubuntu for a long time, and must have gotten some wires crossed lol
[02:39] <aliendude5300> I am guessing gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock is the package a bug should be filed against?
[02:45] <kinghat> now I remember why I stopped with this laptop, the wifi died and failed to connect
[03:06] <kinghat> and I'm getting wifi through my phone's BT
[04:18] <EggSpurt> kinghat if you want fast look into Clear Linux
[04:19] <EggSpurt> actually i find Ubuntu, even full Kubuntu quite usable even on old systems
[04:19] <EggSpurt> if its 64 bit it'll go
[04:21] <kinghat> yeah it surprisingly is 64bit
[04:21] <kinghat> trying Ubuntu focal atm
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> psymin: awake?
[05:21] <psymin> lotuspsychje, yes
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> psymin: tell me how the fix worked out with that libpango?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> my apt is giving error too now
[05:22] <psymin> worked great
[05:22] <psymin> I downloaded two debs, did dpkg -i on them, and we're golden
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> how can i purge that manual minecraft deb?
[05:23] <psymin> apt remove minecraft-launcher
[05:23] <psymin> I think
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> tnx tat worked
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> apt going again :p
[05:25] <psymin> or apt --fix-broken install
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> tnx for updating that bug
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning pmjdebruijn
[07:31] <pmjdebruijn> hi folks, does anybody know whether there is an alternate installer ISO for 20.04 already?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> pmjdebruijn: currently the new server installer is being revamped
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> not tested myself, but this should be the new installer method: https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-20-04-server-installation
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> oh, _that's_ the installer I don't want
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> i see, maybe tomreyn or ducasse might know ^
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> the old debian installer simply did not need replacement really
[07:35] <pmjdebruijn> and there's installer customization we did, that we'd like to keep using
 i would also assume that http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/focal-server-amd64.iso (779MB) is debian-installer (which you could try) and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-live/current/focal-live-server-amd64.iso (911M) is subiquity (the 'new' default installer you have supposedly tried so far). both were built on march 29, 2020.
[07:36] <pmjdebruijn> aaaah
[07:38] <pmjdebruijn> also, I noticed removing cloud-init also removes the ubuntu-server metapackage, which seems a bit bizarre
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> im more the desktop guy, so dont know that one pmjdebruijn
[07:40] <pmjdebruijn> thanks for the hint to the isos!
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> credits to tomreyn :p
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> pmjdebruijn: there is also a current testing team for 20.04 available in #ubuntu-quality if you want to help/share bugs
[07:46] <pmjdebruijn> possibly, let do an install first
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> sure thing, good luck!
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !info konsole
[08:53] <luna_> hey
[09:08] <alkisg> libpango1.0-0 is now libpangox-1.0-0 so "anydesk" has dependency failures. Should I file a bug for the renamed package to "Provides:the-old-one", or should I just create a fake package to satisfy anydesk?
[09:09] <RikMills> alkisg: bug already exists and fix is currently in proposed pocket and hopefully migrating before the beta
[09:09] <alkisg> Great, thank you RikMills
[09:09] <RikMills> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pango1.0/+bug/1869716
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> welcome halvors
[10:20] <halvors> Ubuntu just uninstalled all the kernels, why did it do that?
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> halvors: can you pastebin what apt did exactly please?
[10:22] <halvors> I'm unsure when that happend.
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> halvors: lets see what gives: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[10:23] <halvors> no packages to install
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> uname -a ?
[10:25] <halvors> 5.4.0-18-generic, but that doesn't exist anymore.-
[10:25] <halvors> I did not reboot.
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> halvors: can you pastebin your dpkg log?
[10:30] <halvors> lotuspsychje: Seems the reason somehow is that i installed the latest kernel from the mainline kernel ppa. But that would not remove the 5.4 kernel right? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fHS8QqwkSJ/
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> halvors: try to reinstall current official kernel for 20.04, then sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade after to see what it does
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[10:33] <halvors> lotuspsychje: It says it is already installed, but update-grub does not list it.
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> halvors: was this a clean install 20.04 or upgrade?
[10:33] <halvors> it was clean
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> halvors: what about if you try to purge the current kernel, what does apt say then?
[10:35] <halvors> lotuspsychje: will try
[10:36] <halvors> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nPz3P8929z/
[10:37] <halvors> still no packages to install
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> how about sudo apt autoremove
[10:37] <halvors> nothing there either.
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> ok thats weird
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> nothing to install, nothing to purge..
[10:38] <halvors> But it did remove linux-modules-5.4.0-1002-oem earlier
[10:39] <halvors> Installing that package manually does nothing.
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> halvors: are your sources all enabled properly?
[10:39] <halvors> apt sources you mean?
[10:39] <halvors> yes
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> apt policy linux-image-generic ?
[10:44] <halvors> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Pt9qGXrVR3/
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> says its installed
[10:45] <luna_> RikMills: thanks for the information over Telegram
[10:45] <halvors> yes, question is why it's not being picked up by grub?
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> halvors: did you sudo update-grub correctly?
[10:47] <halvors> Yes. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PHWPcqkxN8/
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> weird it still picks one of your mainlines
[10:48] <halvors> yes
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> halvors: ah maybe it didnt install your headers n all?
[10:49] <halvors> the 5.4 kernel?
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> apt policy linux-headers-5.4.0-14-generic
[10:50] <halvors> that does not exist, but why did apt remove it?
[10:50] <halvors> it's just a clean install with mainline kernel installed on top of it.
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> halvors: that can happen sometimes with messing with mainline kernels, i also had that once
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> i had to reinstall source, image and headers couple of times till grub showed it
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> make sure you got all 3 for 5.4
[10:52] <halvors> linux-headers-5.4.0-18-generic is installed
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> linux-generic* linux-image-generic*
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> then sudo update-grub again
[10:58] <halvors> lotuspsychje: Think i'll just reinstall ubuntu and take a snapshot to easily rollback to installed state.
[10:58] <halvors> And then start experimenting
[10:59] <halvors> All the linux-generic, linux-headers and linux-image-generic is installed.
[10:59] <halvors> packages*
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> no dice?
[11:01] <halvors> lotuspsychje: dice?
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> halvors: i mean no luck with grub?
[11:03] <halvors> doesn't seem that way
[11:03] <halvors> one thing i noticed was it was only 1 kernel installed.
[11:03] <halvors> usually it's 2
[11:03] <halvors> but that is maybe just because of updates?
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> maybe some glitch by playing with mainline
[11:11] <halvors> lotuspsychje: thanks for help, will look more into it after fresh installed
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[11:35] <nael_n> When I select multiple images and/or videos and press enter, eog opens the images in as many windows, and totem opens only one video. In the previous release I used (18.04), the files were opened in a sort of gallery/playlist instead. Is the new behavior normal? Or is it a bug?
[11:35] <nael_n> (Either way it's inconvenient)
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: both tested, image viewer & vlc here, 2 windows jump open, no playlist
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> so seems like normal
[11:48] <luna_> is to afriad to reboot my PC with 20.04 as i am stuck in UK
[11:48] <luna_> kinda hard to ssh in to Swedish if the reboot fails
[11:51] <st-gourichon-f> Hi. On previous Ubuntu, on program crash I had option to see details, like https://tipsonubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/disable-error-report.jpg . Now no option appears, just cancel or report, like https://www.linuxbabe.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ubuntu-disable-error-reporting.png . Why? How can I get back the option? (Of course I searched the net, checked in /etc, did some dpkg-reconfigure -plow whoopsie
[11:51] <st-gourichon-f> apport apport-gtk, no progress). Thanks for any hint.
[11:51] <nael_n> lotuspschje: thanks for confirming. I meant is this new behavior a feature that the programmers willingly implemented? It's so inconvenient I'm surprised it's a thing
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: i never actually tested that on 18.04 so not sure
[11:54] <nael_n> k thx
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> st-gourichon-f: crashes goes to /var/crash
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> st-gourichon-f: then if you found a faulty package to bug, use ubuntu-bug packagename
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> st-gourichon-f: in systemsettings/diagnostics you can enable/disable manual/auto
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: lemme test that on my bionic box holdon
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: ok on bionic, pictures opened 2 windows, but in totem it added both video's in the same window, playing it behind each other
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: and totem on 20.04 only opens 1 video
[12:03] <nael_n> lotuspsychje: OK thanks. This change of behavior is a bit weird. I don't know what to think. I guess it's voluntary.
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: i guess its not logic, when selecting multiple vids it only opens one
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: if you file the bug, ill affect it
[12:06] <nael_n> If I remember correctly the whole playlist feature was removed from Totem wasn't it? Perhaps it's the reason
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: starting totem, you can add video's to the main screen, then play them
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> but even then, one would suspect selecting multiple from nautilus, would at least add them to the main screen?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> maybe its something they didnt think of?
[12:16] <nael_n> lotuspsychje: alright I finally found it: the issue has been present from before 18.04 contrary to what I erroneously remembered, and it's actually an upstream bug in Nautilus, that stems from Flatpak compatibility or something. So it's been here for years and it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon
[12:17] <nael_n> Launchpad bug 1730231 and upstream bug https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/117
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> !info nautilus bionic
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: whats weird, is on bionic pictures opened twice, but totem grouped my videos
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> so this bug depends on filetypes?
[12:21] <nael_n> Or on the application that is launched? Does VLC on Bionic also group your videos?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> lemme test that on bionic vlc
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: lol, vlc does something even weirder, opens 2 windows, plays 1 video and 1 empty black window with timeline
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> same on 20.04
[12:25] <nael_n> urghhh
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> this is ugly
[12:26] <nael_n> I don't know if it's worth reporting those differences in behavior just now. Perhaps best to wait for the upstream bug to be fixed, and then see what remains broken
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: i also found a similar bug with gnome-books, when clicking an epub it does not launch program
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> bug #1869667
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> works same as totem, you need to open program, then add your files local first, or place them in documents
[12:31] <nael_n> I can't confirm sorry, I never use ebooks
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> dont worry, was just to show the link between nautilus and the program is not really thinked about well
[12:34] <pmjdebruijn> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/server-installer-plans-for-20-04-lts/13631 anybody know if that's going to be true for the final 20.04 release
[12:36] <pmjdebruijn> d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe seems to be broken in the debian-installer version of the 20.04 isos
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> think that will be the idea yeah pmjdebruijn, but as always we will need to wait till final, to see wich features made it, and wich not
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> mostly around release times, a lot of news comes out features made, or being pushed till next release, 20.10 in our case
[12:38] <pmjdebruijn> any clue of the automation is already present in subiquity?
[12:38] <pmjdebruijn> if*
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> sorry havent tested it myself
[12:39] <pmjdebruijn> with automation the new crappy ui doesn't matter as much
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> in this stage, its a game of testing a lot of daily's to see new features, as things get worked on daily
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> pmjdebruijn: soon beta will come, more stable testing comes along
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> welcome TR1950X
[13:17] <TR1950X> what kernel version is 2020.04 gonna be on?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> see the schedule in the topic TR1950X
[13:20] <hggdh> TR1950X: 5.4
[13:34] <st-gourichon-f> lotuspsychje, I have seen the crashes in /var/crash.  In understand that if I can guess the package name from the file in /var/crash I can get the details. Thanks.
[14:35] <Histo> Is there a setting to get tilde to function normally in 20.04?  I can't type tilde in terminal or anywhere it's really annoying
[14:35] <Histo> Pressing tilde button does some weird focus thing and you can't do any input until pressing it again.
[14:36] <Histo> I'd like to be able to cd tilde in terminal again....
[14:41] <Histo> Anyone home?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Histo
[14:43] <Histo> Has anyone experienced this issue or shall I file a bug?
[14:53] <histo> Okay tried under a different user and the key types a backtick not a tilde by default so there is something specific to my user that is causing weird behavior of the itilde key
[15:03] <histo> Anyone on a US keyboard in 20.04 if you press the tilde key does it type a backtick or a tilde?
[15:05] <hggdh> tilde (US/International)
[15:06] <histo> Why would mine type a backtick by default?
[15:07] <hggdh> perhaps wrong layout?
[15:08] <histo> @hggdh do you know whwere to change the layout?
[15:09] <histo> @hggdh under region and language mine is set to English (US)
[15:11] <histo> Is there some other setting I should be looking for?  This is a default install on a lenovo
[15:11] <histo> laptop
[15:15] <histo> Both english (us) internation and english (us) type a backtick instead of a tilde. You have to press shfit + backtick to type a tidle
[15:18] <histo> Is that normal behavior for US keyboard?  I'm beginning to question my sanity?
[15:18] <psymin> yes `
[15:22] <histo> My gawd I'm losing my marbles````~~~~
[15:22] <histo> Thank you all
[16:47] <luna_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ this folder is not updated yet :(
[19:12] <CarlFK> what's a handy URL to tell someone to browse to to get them here using a browser based chat client?
[19:14] <CarlFK> I kinda remember wechat, I also remember something more ubuntu/canonical based
[19:15] <oerheks> let them register first with #freenode
[19:28] <CarlFK> using what client?
[19:28] <oerheks> weechat in terminal, hexchat in the desktop, tons of options
[19:29] <oerheks> weechat is like issi a pain to setup.
[19:34] <CarlFK> there are some js ones that are easy to get going with, that's what I am looking for
[19:35] <CarlFK> maybe weechat isn't one of them.  I might be thinking of kiwiirc.
[21:12] <halvors> Is Linux 5.5 planned for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS?
[21:17] <rfm> halvors, I don't know of "plans" but it's not there now and this is beta freeze, can't imagine they'd change kernels after beta.
[21:18] <halvors> ok thx
[23:33] <trippeh> man, this ice lake laptop is rough on 20.04


[01:04] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: https://www.amazon.com/BLU-R1-HD-Exclusive-Lockscreen/dp/B01H2E0J5M/ref=sr_tr_sr_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1467851047&sr=8-2&keywords=blu+r1+hd
[07:34] <javier4> is it normal that cortex-a53 is not a valid value for TARGET_CPU_VARIANT for Ubuntu-touch?
[07:53] <javier4> why inside bionic/libc/arch-arm64/ of ubuntu there's no cortex-a53 directory present in AOSP source for my device?
[09:08] <black_puppydog> mariogrip: for the the camera stopped working. not a dealbreaker for me, but are you aware of this?
[09:09] <black_puppydog> (on a hammerhead)
[09:09] <mariogrip> black_puppydog: yeah, the camera is still a bit unstable
[09:10] <mariogrip> bluetooth is also a bit unstable
[09:11] <black_puppydog> actually, the camera worked pretty fine for me before the big update. unstable, yes, but working. now it won't start any longer. Coming from android I would have tried "delete application data" or some such to reset it, is there sth similar on ubuntu?
[12:06] <handstied_> Hi everybody. The guys from #ubuntu-libertine send me over here. I am having trouble with the onscreen keyboard since I installed Libertine and created a container. The osk doesn't come up anymore, in any app I start.
[12:06] <handstied_> I posted a short question and description on askubuntu (http://askubuntu.com/questions/795897/ubuntu-touch-onscreen-keyboard-disappeared-meizu-mx4-pro)
[12:08] <handstied_> You can imagine, that my phone is not very smart any more. I can use the dialer for the phone and PIN entry... thats it. No other texting is possible. I really appreciate your help!
[12:12] <davmor2> handstied_: what happens if you reboot it
[12:13] <handstied_> reboot doesn't change anything
[12:17] <handstied_> I was thinking on reinstalling OTA-11... maybe whatever got kicked off by the installing libertine falls back in place... unfortunately I couldn't  find a manual on how to do it online.
[12:19] <matv1> handstied_ http://thinkonbytes.blogspot.nl/2016/06/how-to-install-older-ota-release-in.html
[12:26] <handstied_> matv1: thanks, that looks good. I will try that after work.
[13:13] <mhall119> oSoMoN: is there any pending fix for scrolling in the webbrowser-app?
[13:14] <dobey> mhall119: i'm not sure it's an issue in the browser itself
[13:14] <mhall119> half the time I start a wheel or 2-finger scroll, it bounces me all the way to the top of bottom of a page before starting to scroll
[13:14] <dobey> oh, as in, not on a phone?
[13:15] <mhall119> yeah, on the desktop
[13:15] <mhall119> I haven't experienced this with touch-scrolling
[13:16] <mhall119> it's like it has an incorrect memory of the last page location, and goes back to that before scrolling
[13:16] <dobey> oh. i thought you were talking about the common issue where trying to scroll will jump way down. i get the same issue in android too.
[13:17] <mhall119> so instead of code saying "Scroll down 10 lines from here" it says "Scroll down 10 lines from the last known location", thinking that "here" == "last known location" when they don't
[13:17] <dobey> but if there's some weirdness using a mouse on an x86 PC, i guess that's a different issue
[13:19] <davmor2> mhall119: it is because the travel rate is ramped up for touch scroll which unfortunately doesn't match mouse scroll there is an old bug for it but I can't remember the number off the top of my head
[13:21] <mhall119> davmor2: I don't think that's it
[13:21] <mhall119> it's not the speed, it jumps instantly to a different location and then scrolls at a normal pace
[13:24] <davmor2> mhall119: ah okay
[14:20] <ahoneybun> mhall119: heyo
[14:21] <mhall119> o/ ahoneybun
[14:21] <ahoneybun> this laptop would be almost perfect for convergence
[14:22] <ahoneybun> since it spins to be a tablet like thing lol
[14:23] <dobey> i wonder how well unity8 would work on my fujitsu
[14:23] <ahoneybun> it works better then I thought
[14:24] <dobey> i guess it wouldn't be so great on this machine, because poulsbo
[14:24] <ahoneybun> mhall119: so we don't have much space for wallpapers? So a click package is what we are going for?
[14:26] <mhall119> ahoneybun: no decision has been made yet, but that seems like the better option
[14:26] <ahoneybun> alright thanks
[14:26] <ahoneybun> another issue is the scaling
[14:27] <ahoneybun> going from a small screen like the N4 or BQ 4,5/5 to even 1080 destroys wallpapers
[14:27]  * ahoneybun continues to look for old games in his house
[14:29] <dobey> ?
[14:30] <dobey> what resolution is the actual wallpaper file? or is it a heavily dithered jpeg or something?
[14:30] <ahoneybun> well the N4 is like 1280x768
[14:31] <ahoneybun> going from that to 1080 makes it look bad
[14:31] <ahoneybun> not any software issue
[14:31] <dobey> i mean, the n5 is 1080p, and wallpaper on it looked fine to me
[14:32] <ahoneybun> well going from landscape to portrait or back and forth
[14:32] <ahoneybun> 1080x 1920 vs 1920x1080
[14:32] <dobey> oh it's rotating the background and scaling it?
[14:32] <dobey> that is certainly a software issue :)
[14:32] <ahoneybun> not sure if it rotates
[14:32] <ahoneybun> just says the size is the same just different angle
[14:33] <ahoneybun> if we can set one wallpaper for the lockscreen and one for the background in dock mode
[14:33] <ahoneybun> *Desktop Mode
[14:33] <ahoneybun> that would be ideal
[17:36] <mhall119> mariogrip: ping
[17:37] <mariogrip> mhall119: pong
[17:37] <mhall119> mariogrip: hey, something's gone bad with my phone
[17:38] <tsimonq2> mhall119: if you're on rc-proposed, check the landing team email for today
[17:38] <mhall119> I tried to install rev 10 using ubuntu-device-flash a couple days ago, but I can't boot into recovery anymore and the Ubuntu it boots into still says it's rev 4
[17:38] <tsimonq2> (it's messed up)
[17:38] <mhall119> I tried using fastboot to re-flash the boot image, but that doesn't help
[17:38] <mhall119> tsimonq2: is the problem related to the recovery img?
[17:39] <mariogrip> mhall119: have you tried flashing recovery?
[17:39] <tsimonq2> mhall119: dbus issues if I remember correctly, sorry
[17:39] <mhall119> no, I haven't gotten a new recovery img lately, so I wasn't sure if the old one would work
[17:39] <mhall119> my recovery.img is from Feb 15
[17:40] <mariogrip> mhall119: let me upload the new one to you, but the system image server should have the new one
[17:44] <Mister_Q> tsimonq2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1599163
[17:47] <mariogrip> mhall119: give me a minute to build it, i didn't have one that was built
[19:09] <mhall119> mariogrip: got it built yet?
[19:09] <mariogrip> mhall119: i'm struggling with some crashes, i updated the recovery since, but it crashes on FP2
[19:10] <mariogrip> sorry about that
[19:11] <mhall119> np, I can wait
[20:01] <mariogrip> mhall119: here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56653875/ubuntu/mhall/recovery-7.img
[20:05] <mariogrip> mhall119: it might not work, i had to rewrite some stuff, if it does not work i'll fix it until tomorrow
[20:07] <mariogrip> mhall119: i have to run, i'll be back in a bit
[20:30] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ping ping
[20:30] <ahoneybun> we need someone from the CC for the Membership Board
[21:06] <mhall119> ahoneybun: yo, am I to late?
[21:06] <ahoneybun> yea popey came out
[21:06] <mhall119> cool
[21:07] <ahoneybun> yep
[21:13] <mhall119> ahoneybun: try me on telegram next time, I don't get notifications from IRC
[21:49] <ahoneybun> mhall119: you rarely answer there as well ;p
[22:28] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: if there is any help, I nearly always answer :D :D
[22:34] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: it was about the Membership Board, needed a CC member to fill in if needed
[22:34] <ahoneybun> but thanks!
[22:35] <ahoneybun> I wanted to talk to you about the english on your ubport site lol
[22:35] <mariogrip> what English :P i don't speak that lol
[22:35] <ahoneybun> XD
[22:36] <ahoneybun> this guy is from Norway as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNENVZFHutQ
[22:36] <ahoneybun> mariogrip:
[22:37] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: it's a honey bunny :D
[22:37] <mariogrip> :P
[22:39] <mariogrip> I wonder what the people in that video was thinking, when there is a random rabbit playing guitar....
[22:41] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: what about the english? something i shoud edit?
[22:42] <mariogrip> btw: https://github.com/ubports/ubports.com
[22:42] <ahoneybun> I might just being a bit of a grammer nazi
[22:42] <ahoneybun> *grammar
[22:42] <ahoneybun> XD
[22:43] <mariogrip> :P
[22:43] <mariogrip> I like how you spelled that wrong, a bit ironic :P
[22:44] <ahoneybun> but I fixed it
[22:44] <ahoneybun> lol
[22:45] <ahoneybun> mm jade huh mariogrip?
[22:45] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: jup, well it's named pug now due to copyright thing
[22:46] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: so do I clone it or fork it then make changes?
[22:46] <mariogrip> you can fork it, then make changes on your local fork, then send a pull request
[22:47] <ahoneybun> cool
[22:47] <mariogrip> https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests/
[22:56] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: https://github.com/ubports/ubports.com/pull/2
[22:56] <ahoneybun> :)
[22:58] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: seems good :D
[22:59] <ahoneybun> sweet
[22:59] <ahoneybun> first github pull request
[23:00] <ahoneybun> and just got hit with the email about it :D
[23:03] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: already on the server :D auto updates the server :)
[23:05] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Thanks :D
[23:05] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: on the get involved page the report bug links to oneplus one
[23:05] <ahoneybun> any general link to use?
[23:05] <ahoneybun> np :)
[23:06] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: we have moved to lunchpad for bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubports-android
[23:06] <mariogrip> that's for all including oneplus one
[23:06] <ahoneybun> alright I'll use that
[23:06] <ahoneybun> on that page atm
[23:07] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: if you have time, could you add irc links to #ubports and #ubuntu-touch
[23:07] <mariogrip> on get-involved
[23:07] <ahoneybun> want to use kiwi for it?
[23:08] <ahoneybun> is this: http://github.com/ubports still good for the source or is that on LP too?
[23:09] <mariogrip> i was just think infomation where to find irc, i don't think we need embeded irc client. but if you want to add it sure. and yes we use github for all our sources still
[23:09] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: if you want to embed IRC: https://kiwiirc.com/embedding
[23:09] <ahoneybun> we use it on the Kubuntu website
[23:10] <mariogrip> yeah, sure :D
[23:10] <ahoneybun> it uses iframe
[23:10] <ahoneybun> if you don't want to embed it that's fine
[23:11] <ahoneybun> I can just link to Kiwi IRC site or something
[23:12] <mariogrip> no, same for me, iframe is fine :)
[23:14] <ahoneybun> pulled, let's see
[23:14] <ahoneybun> I can get something together if that does not work
[23:15] <ahoneybun> we have it on WordPress so not sure
[23:16]  * ahoneybun crosses fingers
[23:17] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: i made a comment, you cannot use html with jade
[23:17] <ahoneybun> mm alright
[23:18] <ahoneybun> that site just pulls the tag out
[23:19] <ahoneybun> iframe() and not <iframe></iframe>
[23:20] <ahoneybun> should that worik?
[23:20] <ahoneybun> *work
[23:20] <mariogrip> yes
[23:20] <mariogrip> jade works like that
[23:20] <ahoneybun> k fixing it
[23:21] <ahoneybun> that site is pretty bad
[23:21] <ahoneybun> cuts off long text
[23:21] <mariogrip> there is more html to jade sites, i just took the first one on google
[23:22] <ahoneybun> should I open a new pull?
[23:22] <mariogrip> nope, it adds automatically to the existing one
[23:23] <ahoneybun> cool
[23:23] <mariogrip> it worked https://ubports.com/get-involved
[23:23] <mariogrip> :D
[23:23] <ahoneybun> works!
[23:24] <UBport-use|5329> Hola!
[23:24] <UBport-use|5329> it's me
[23:24] <UBport-use|5329> Mario
[23:24] <UBport-use|35443> ahoneybun: ping :D
[23:24] <UBport-use|5329> mariogrip: pong
[23:24] <mariogrip> :P
[23:24] <ahoneybun> nice!
[23:25] <mariogrip> Also Thanks ahoneybun :D
[23:25] <ahoneybun> np :)
[23:25] <ahoneybun> nice to help out
[23:25] <mariogrip> I'll add a new page, a sponsor page
[23:26] <ahoneybun> for DigitalOcean?
[23:26] <ahoneybun> or more?
[23:26] <mariogrip> DigitalOcean and patreon
[23:27] <ahoneybun> oh nice
[23:27] <ahoneybun> https://github.com/ubports/ubports.com/graphs/contributors
[23:27] <ahoneybun> github does not know me XD
[23:27] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: they take a bit time to update, you will be there soon :D
[23:27] <ahoneybun> nice!
[23:28] <ahoneybun> I didn't do it for that but it does look cool
[23:28] <ahoneybun> will my fork get the new page?
[23:28] <ahoneybun> or how do I update that?
[23:29] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: https://help.github.com/articles/syncing-a-fork/
[23:30] <ahoneybun> mm since my changes are upstream already anyway
[23:30] <ahoneybun> no big deal with syncing
[23:32] <ahoneybun> I must be doing something wrong
[23:33] <ahoneybun> git fetch upstream does not work
[23:34] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: any idea?
[23:35] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: "Before you can sync your fork with an upstream repository, you must configure a remote that points to the upstream repository in Git."


[05:13] <luna> https://i.imgur.com/5DcpajU.png
[10:49] <jlj_> diddledan: yeah, been trying to parse all that's flying around on HN about that. :-/
[10:53] <zxm-pi_> what's it about?
[10:54] <jlj_> Freenode staff resigning; or planning to resign? I'm not sure. libera.chat is a thing now.
[11:02] <zxm-pi_> ah, thanks
[12:13] <daftykins> well, not yet :)


[00:19] <codebrainz> hi. sometimes, very rarely, when I resume my computer from sleep and the login box comes up (lightdm?) the mouse cursor is stuck in the middle of the screen and I can't use my computer. If I try and restart the lightdm service everything locks up. Upon rebooting, the USB mouse doesn't work and my screens are swapped which one is primary, then after about 30 seconds everything goes back to normal. Anyone know what's going on?
[00:44] <Wayward_Vagabond> Guys, my mystery power down was power outage
[00:45] <Wayward_Vagabond> the battery must've just had time to recharge itself before I booted up
[03:56] <xubuntu87d> thank you
[03:57] <xubuntu87d> exit
[11:59] <ewet> can I get Thunar to honor `LC_COLLATE=C` in Xubuntu 16.04.1 LTS?
[13:46] <bigman_> I have a problem trying to reset the date to 2014...
[13:47] <knome> it's 2016...
[13:52] <bigman_> I know, its because I usually use a windows partition to use a piece of software, which is cracked and to run the date needs to be in 2014, im running windows through virtualbox, but changing the date in ubuntu which is then passed to virtualbox, is not working...
[13:53] <bigman_> im in xubuntu, ive tried changing it in gui, no effect, command line with sudo date --set, not working either
[13:53] <knome> we will not help with illegal activities.
[13:53]  * pavlushka thinks its interesting
[13:53] <bigman_> changing the date isnt illegal
[13:54] <pavlushka> bigman_: are you a lawyer?
[13:54] <bigman_> no
[13:56] <bigman_> is that attempt at sarcasm?
[13:56] <pavlushka> bigman_: sorry, my bad.
[13:57] <bigman_> why would xubuntu not be letting me change the date?
[13:58] <bigman_> if i reboot and sudo date --set, it stays for about a minute and then gets updated to the real time...
[13:58] <knome> bigman_, i told you we will not help with illegal activites or help you get doing them.
[14:00] <bigman_> alright, ill find some help somewhere else
[14:06] <bigman_> is this place just for questions about operating system, because I have fcitx handeling my language input, and I set the hotkey for changing input methods but it just isnt working, I frequently change between four languages and i dont like having to click languages i want to use all the time...
[14:07] <bigman_> i would like it so that i just hit ctrl+space or something that will cycle through the languages, i set it through gui and through the .config/fcitx...
[14:13] <pavlushka> bigman_: I set my language switching combination to "left_alt+left_shift" and its perfectly working, I set it using gui keyboard options.
[14:14] <pavlushka> bigman_: দেথতে চান? :p
[14:15] <bigman_> in fcitx configuration? what script is that? some sub-script on hindi etc..?
[14:16] <pavlushka> bigman_: that is close, Its Bengali complex-script.
[14:17] <bigman_> in global config i have it set to enable the hotkey, but still not working...
[14:20] <bigman_> i can read a few sanskrit languages, the bengali script looks still to have common features
[14:20] <pavlushka> bigman_: you have to uncheck the "use system defaults" option first.
[14:21] <bigman_> where is that option?
[14:21]  * pavlushka is on imguring a screenshot
[14:23] <bigman_> how do i view that screenshot?
[14:26] <pavlushka> bigman_: here http://imgur.com/a/YdXkJ
[14:31] <bigman_> ah i see, I unchecked use system defaults, but I never installed keyboards using the 'keyboard' application, in 'language support' i set the keyboard input method system to fcitx, and then in fcitx installed the keyboard, because for my chinese the sogou interface is only on fcitx...
[14:47] <bigman_> @pavlushka, guest89318: I solved the problem, it seems as though the fcitx gui does not list all the available features that exist within the config file in .config/fcitx/config. I uncommented the lines IMSwitchKey=True, and IMSwitchHotkey=... and then restarted fcitx and it now works,
[14:48] <pavlushka> bigman_:  congratulations!!
[14:48] <bigman_> thanks for all the help that you could give, i solved the date change problem too. Now i need to go to sleep, up early tommrrow
[14:49] <pavlushka> lol sure
[14:49] <bigman_> 晚安 - wan-an - goodnight
[14:50] <pavlushka> bigman_: copy that, I'll paste it somewhere else :p
[20:46] <atello> Hello everyone
[20:56] <qrobot> Hello
[20:57] <qrobot> I'm using xubuntu 16.04.1 and for some weird reason, I'm not being notified for updates
[20:57] <qrobot> Has anyone encountered this?
[20:58] <qrobot> I don't know if it's a xubuntu problem or a ubuntu problem..
[20:58] <atello> which updates? system? software?
[20:59] <qrobot> I guess neither. In 15.10 there used to be an icon in the panel saying there are new updates to install, and now I don't see it anymore, even after 2 weeks
[21:00] <qrobot> if I go to the Store, then I can see I need to update few things
[21:00] <atello> I don't see that icon either, come to think of it
[21:00] <atello> Might be that the software updater service isn't running on boot?
[21:01] <atello> let me check, my startup settings are untouched
[21:01] <qrobot> only after visiting the "Store" I get a window with a notification to update the computer. But still nothing in the taskbar panel
[21:01] <atello> update notifier is enabled
[21:01] <atello> yeah same
[21:02] <qrobot> and even if the computer is working for hours I don't get a notification. Is that your situation as well?
[21:02] <atello> I haven't gotten a single notification in the panel since I installed last week. I know for a fact there have been updates (I run apt update/upgrade scripts every morning)
[21:02] <atello> Might just be a bug with the applet
[21:03] <qrobot> Hmmm
[21:04] <qrobot> it's a problem for people who are using xubuntu and aren't >= powerusers
[21:05] <atello> meaning "fix it yourself" types?
[21:05] <atello> I probably could, but I usually disable those notifications anyway, so it doesn't bother me.
[21:06] <atello> I have a cron task to take care of that, so whatever :)
[21:06] <qrobot> hehe
[21:06] <qrobot> Do you think it
[21:06] <qrobot> Do you think it's a xubuntu problem or a ubuntu one?
[21:07] <atello> probably xubuntu seeing as how that applet is an xfce4 applet. I don't recall if ubuntu itself uses the same software updater.
[21:07] <atello> It might be tied to that actually
[21:08] <atello> there doesn't seem to be settings for notifications from the software updater
[21:09] <atello> interesting, wonder if this has been reported already.
[21:09] <atello> If you're so inclined, go dig through the bug tracker
[21:17] <qrobot> Well, it seems no one is talking about this recent issue
[21:21] <qrobot> well, someone advised to reinstall update-notifier and update-notifier-common. I hope it works
[21:22] <atello> let us know if it works
[21:22] <qrobot> well, I'll try it and report tomorrow if it helped. I will go to sleep in the meanwhile. Thanks :)
[21:22] <atello> sure thing, have a good one
[22:31] <nolandda> Hello. I have gotten myself into a sticky situation upgrading from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS.
[22:33] <nolandda> I upgraded a parallels VM and I think something is awry with the fancy LUKS/cryptsetup splash screen.
[22:33] <nolandda> Because the graphical display doesn't come up.
[22:34] <nolandda> But if I switch to one of the virtual terminals I can see that the ramdisk envitonment is running and will take a login.
[22:35] <nolandda> But I don't have any logins I am aware of for that env.
[22:35] <nolandda> So how do I provide LUKS/cryptsetup with the passphrase?
[22:36] <nolandda> Or am I stuck extracting the disk image and shuffling it over to a machine where I can mount it?
[23:18] <MrRobot7> is Xubuntu 16.10 being developed/released along side the Ubuntu 16.10 releases?  I mean the Beta's and RC's etc
[23:19] <MrRobot7> i'm on 15.10, and would like to try out 16.10 on a non-prod desktop is why I ask
[23:22] <krytarik> MrRobot7: Yes - only Beta 2 and Final too though, otherwise Dailies.
[23:25] <MrRobot7> k, and Beta 2 is still a few weeks out correct?  I saw a roadmap indicating Sep 22
[23:27] <krytarik> Correct.
[23:28] <MrRobot7> k thx


[16:50] <snake-venom> Hi pavlushka
[16:51] <snake-venom> how are you doing ?
[16:51] <pavlushka> Hello
[16:51] <snake-venom> good to see you after long time
[16:51] <pavlushka> snake-venom: I'm doing fine, you?
[16:51] <snake-venom> i hope you are healthy and safe
[16:52] <snake-venom> i want to install GitExtensions but did not find any tutorial to install it on my ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS
[16:57] <snake-venom> :) busy pavlushka  or something else ?
[16:58] <pavlushka> snake-venom: trying to configure clamav to listen to tcp ports, so kinda
[17:00] <snake-venom> ok
[17:04] <pavlushka> snake-venom: give me 20-30 mins probably
[17:28] <pavlushka> snake-venom: ok, what's up?
[17:30] <pavlushka> snake-venom: how about this https://github.com/gitextensions/gitextensions/wiki/How-To:-run-Git-Extensions-on-Linux?
[17:30] <pavlushka> snake-venom: how about this https://github.com/gitextensions/gitextensions/wiki/How-To:-run-Git-Extensions-on-Linux ?


[00:45] <MinimalLak> I installed kubuntu onto a virtual worstation in vmware player, and im trying to install vmware tools; im at the point where the konsole is asking me for the location of the gcc program on my computer
[00:45] <MinimalLak> and I have no idea where to point it to
[00:47] <MinimalLak> what do I input into the console to solve this
[03:36] <apparle> hi guys
[03:36] <TheFakeazneD525> ohai mark
[03:37] <apparle> I see that screen dims automatically while watching youtube videos. Is there a way to fix this
[03:37] <apparle> automatically disable power management when flash videos are playing?
[03:43] <apparle> it happens on all the browsers, nothing specific about rekonq or firefox or chromium
[03:56] <robertbellarmine> How do you delete specific history from the bash? Say you want to delete #10-20, I know if I want to clear it I can just history -c but that deletes all of it.
[04:00] <apparle> is there a dbus interface to phonon, where I could check if any sound is playing?
[04:01] <robertbellarmine> How do you delete specific history from the bash? Say you want to delete #10-20, I know if I want to clear it I can just history -c but that deletes all of it.
[04:02] <robertbellarmine> Thanks
[04:54] <jussi> robertbellarmine: just go into the .bash_history file in your home dir and remove what you want?
[06:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:14] <TheFakeazneD525> ohai
[06:14] <lordievader> Hey TheFakeazneD525, how are you?
[06:22] <TheFakeazneD525> I'm good
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:13] <mparillo> MinimalLak: I am using VMware Player right now. For 14.04, I simply use the Easy Install without any problems, so I do not have to install VMware Tools. For 14.10, I have big problems with VMware tools, but I have found that sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools-desktop does everything I need. For Plasma-Next, nothing works for me.
[13:14] <mparillo> Answered Question for 14.10: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+question/251352
[13:14] <vbgunz> I'd like to do some fall cleaning on the pc. Trying to figure out what I've manually installed over the last pass couple years though isn't a cakewalk. I've found a couple solutions through Google but all of them return packages that I did not manually install. Is there a surefire way of only seeing what I've manually installed with apt-get?
[13:14] <mparillo> Bug Report for Plasma Next: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/1362631
[13:18] <vbgunz> is it possible that maybe when trying to look up manually installed apps that I am seeing dependencies of manually installed apps as manually installed when technically imho, they're really automatic?
[13:18] <vbgunz> I'm just not finding that perfect and absolute idea of seeing what I've explicitly asked to be installed
[13:18] <mparillo> MinimalLak: But if you really want to install VMware Tools manually, I have done it successfully (I think with NetRunner and Linux Mint). Basically, I just take all their defaults by hitting enter, and if I get in a loop (I forgot where), I simply say no.
[13:41] <vbgunz> anyone know Nvidia persistenced daemon constantly says failed on every bootup?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, which nvidia ?
[13:54] <vbgunz> I have a GTX 570
[13:54] <vbgunz> It's always failed on boot up and I'm beginning to think I just don't need it or maybe failed is harmless and over verbose
[13:56] <BluesKaj> sbivol, which driver ?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> oops vbgunz
[13:56] <vbgunz> It's all good, I'm using the blob and the driver is 331.38
[13:57] <BluesKaj> ok, then what do mean by daemon fail..what error?
[13:58] <vbgunz> If I cat /var/log/boot.log I always have this ->  * Starting NVIDIA Persistenced Daemon                                   [fail]
[13:59] <vbgunz> I've googled this and I never find anything that can explain it to me
[13:59] <vbgunz> I'm not sure if this should fail, if it's OK to fail, if maybe it's not failing at all
[14:00] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, do you see the nvidia logo for a few frames after grub?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> vbgunz: unless you have a nvidia card, I think it'll be fine
[14:01] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, he does
[14:01] <vbgunz> I don't see an Nvidia logo and yes I have an Nvidia card
[14:01] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[14:01] <shadeslayer> vbgunz: 2 cards? ( One discreet and One integrated )
[14:01] <vbgunz> I mean is this normal? I've never seen it succeed. if you have an nvidia card and cat your /var/log/boot.log do you have the same?
[14:02] <vbgunz> I have onboard graphics yes
[14:02] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[14:02] <shadeslayer> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/alt-nvidia-331-persistenced.1.html
[14:02] <shadeslayer> worth a read I think
[14:03] <vbgunz> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 570] [10de:1081] (rev a1) Subsystem: eVga.com. Corp. Device [3842:1570] Kernel driver in use: nvidia 01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 High Definition Audio Controller [10de:0e09] (rev a1)
[14:04] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, then if the silly daemon is erroring , but the card/driver still works then why fret about it?
[14:05] <vbgunz> I don't think I'm fretting but I am experiencing performance drops that shouldn't exist. trying to understand things better leads me to asking if this could be the cause or if it's normal, something to be concerned about or not
[14:06] <vbgunz> I was hoping maybe someone can say, oh that's totally normal, happens to everybody or oh that's bad, here's why you want to fix it :)
[14:06] <vbgunz> I'm just looking into it as I've found it going over my logs
[14:07] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, is that an onboard gpu?
[14:08] <vbgunz> I have 2 dvi, 1 hdmi plugged into my dedicated GTX 570. I'm not using onboard graphics at all
[14:09] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:10] <BluesKaj> there's some pretty fancy onboard gpus nowadays
[14:11] <vbgunz> hmm, I just for the first time ever and I've tried this before, enabled nvidia-persistence for everybody on the system
[14:14] <vbgunz> after reading pretty much the entire manual on it though I don't see how this will carry over through a reboot, I'm gonna try though as I've messed with other stuff trying to sort out my boot.log, brb
[14:18] <vbgunz> it carried over across a reboot
[14:26] <vbgunz> ok brb, trying to solve a bunch of issues with my boot.log
[16:11] <arthurfiggis> hello! i've been poking around on search engines trying to find a proper answer to this, but so far not much...i'm using ubuntu gnome currently and with that deja-dup for backups, it's integrated rather nicely into gnome so that you can right click pretty much anywhere and restore missing files...is there anything similar integrated into kubuntu/the kde desktop for ubuntu in general?
[18:12] <adam_00001> hello
[18:12] <lordievader> o/
[18:14] <soee> alo alo
[18:18] <bprompt> allo
[21:39] <PCEX> .
[21:42] <TheFakeazneD525> .
[23:47] <valorie> deja-dup doesn't seem to be a gnome product
[23:51] <TheFakeazneD525> its a ubuntu thing rite?