[01:45] <Arguile> Has anyone else had any permissions issues with webcams on Karmic?
[01:45] <lstarnes> Victory444: likely
[01:45] <Andisu> lstarnes hahahaha i active boot recovery in bios and ubuntu start!
[01:45] <randal> stone1343, i did to with 9.04 but with 9.10 i dont think you can
[01:45] <SeaPhor> Whitor, and you have restricted extras enabled?
[01:45] <Ben64> Victory444: probably not but who cares
[01:45] <Andisu> huahuahuahua ty!
[01:45] <MiLLo> it's an old ibm thinkpad/pentium 3/900mhz/512mb ram if that makes a difference
[01:45] <mikechelen> DB42, idk, works fine for me, try the magnet link? magnet:?xt=urn:btih:IVXWYWLKDSXTW5AOWWKYFCLCLNFFEBBJ
[01:45] <stone1343> randal maybe so, i haven't tried yet
[01:46] <Whitor> SeaPhor, That must be it! where is that ?
[01:46] <Andisu> lstarnes one week trying, thinking the problem was in Ubuntu, and the problem was in BIOS
[01:46] <Andisu> huahuahuahuhua
[01:46] <mikechelen> MiLLo, it's here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[01:46] <Whitor> SeaPhor, wait ... It is enabled :(
[01:46] <kevin009> there were also 0 errors in dmesg
[01:46] <MiLLo> thanks mikechelen
[01:46] <johnboker> mickster04 this video issue is annoying
[01:47] <braintorch> I'm starting to think, that it'll be better to fall back to 9.04 :-|
[01:47] <Andisu> lstarnes but the time is wrong, here now is 23:48 o´clock and my notebook is 21:47
[01:47] <MiLLo> it's an ibm thinkpad/pentium 3/900mhz/512mb ram - is that capable of the latest ubuntu by the way - i coudln't find any system specs when I looked before
[01:47] <Ben64> Hey.. my friend has an Acer Aspire One, I'm trying to load Ubuntu UNR on it, tried 9.04 and 9.10, same error happens.. Wireless doesn't work unless I first "modprobe ath5k" .. What do I need to do to fix it?
[01:47] <johnboker> is there anyway to downgrade after upgrading ?
[01:47] <lstarnes> Andisu: which time zone are you in?
[01:47] <stone1343> randal you're right it doesn't seem possible
[01:47] <Lars_G> Is this still too hectic for help?
[01:47] <SeaPhor> Whitor, try this.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade sources.list
[01:47] <lstarnes> johnboker: downgrades are not supported
[01:47] <sweetandy> johnboker: no
[01:47] <mnaines> MiLLo: Karmic needs minimum 1GB of RAM and a 1GHz CPU
[01:47] <CavalierPrime> nope
[01:47] <johnboker> great..
[01:47] <stone1343> ben64 i'm on an AAO, no problems
[01:48] <daleharvey> I dont want to tempt fate but ive been running for about an hour now with no crashes!!
[01:48] <Roasted> guys - I have two 250gb drives that karmic is reading as "nvidia_raid_member" and I cannot mount them. In my old install with jaunty they mounted by fstab. But I cant mount them now. I cant even view the contents. wtf?
[01:48] <randal> stone1343, i like it but the thing i do not like is that you cant switch between them and when omething is maximized you cant see the window decoration
[01:48] <mickster04> randal, yeah there used to be "switch to dsktop mode" which karmic doesnt seem to have, so i assume it doesnt
[01:48] <Ben64> stone1343: what version? does the wireless light/switch work?
[01:48] <Whitor> SeaPhor, thanks, trying
[01:48] <mickster04> randal, u can ficx that with gconf editor
[01:48] <mikechelen> MiLLo, try Xubuntu, it uses the lightweight XFCE desktop manager
[01:48] <stone1343> ben64 karmic and yes the light works
[01:48] <randal> mickster04,  how do i do that
[01:48] <johnboker> i'll try a fresh install of 9.10 then just do another clean install of 9.04 if that doesnt work
[01:48] <Whitor> SeaPhor, nope, that didn't do it
[01:49] <Andisu> but i can´t choose screen resolution 1024x728
[01:49] <pronto> so i just updated from 8.10 to 9.04, how nessacary is it to reboot?
[01:49] <pronto> *blinks* also why did it remove mpd x.x
[01:49] <Ben64> stone1343: how did you install it? worked right out of the box? upgrade from 9.04?
[01:49] <mnaines> johnboker: I did a fresh install of 9.10 and never had problems
[01:49] <Black_Phantom> guys am freakin out, why my 9.10 cd wont boot on my Toshiba Satellite ????? am 100% sure its from ubuntu
[01:49] <johnboker> mnaines i did an upgrade and am having a lot of issues
[01:49] <heylala> Black_Phantom: try the alt cd as well
[01:49] <stone1343> ben64 live usb, 'run without changing system', connect to wireless, install
[01:50] <randal> mickster04,  is that in terminal or something
[01:50] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, will it boot on another computer ?
[01:50] <Black_Phantom> heylala I did
[01:50] <mnaines> johnboker: That is why I am not recommending the upgrade.  I always recommend a clean install.
[01:50] <daleharvey> what happened to ubuntus fancy screen?
[01:50] <Roasted> guys - I have two 250gb drives that karmic is reading as "nvidia_raid_member" and I cannot mount them. In my old install with jaunty they mounted by fstab. But I cant mount them now. I cant even view the contents. wtf?
[01:50] <stone1343> ben64 fresh install
[01:50] <Black_Phantom> Whitor yeah man
[01:50] <LiteHedded> can someone tell me why my screensaver doesn't display when i lock my screen?
[01:50] <mickster04> randal yeah
[01:50] <daleharvey> I quite liked that
[01:50] <andorin> Will the software in the "Software Center" that's marked as "not available in the current data" soon become available for download?
[01:50] <mickster04> randal pm me
[01:50] <SeaPhor> Whitor, look at System>Admin..>software sources,,, look at each tab
[01:50] <heylala> Black_Phantom: and your cd drive is at the top of your boot order yes?
[01:50] <johnboker> mnaines in 5 minutes i'll have the cd to install, i'll let you know how it goes
[01:50] <Ben64> well wth, i guess i need to try re-install
[01:50] <Damdempsel> Does anyone know how to install GDM themes in 9.10? Going to System->Administration->Login Screen doesn't seem to work.
[01:50] <juststopedforcou> Just installed 9.10 remix on Acer Apire One 751h. Its sooooo slow. Does anyone know what to do?
[01:51] <DB42> mikewhere do you get the magnet link from ?
[01:51] <mnaines> johnboker: It worked fine for me, so I do not think you will have any problems.
[01:51] <choronzon> !upgrade
[01:51] <braintorch> mnaines: and you aren't getting those annoying messages, when trying to logout/shutdown?
[01:51] <Black_Phantom> heylala I get to choose when I press F12 from which drive I want to boot from, I click CD/DVD but it doesnt detect while it does for other cds ( including other ubuntu versions )
[01:51] <ripps> Damdempsel: gdm was rewritten, it doesn't support theme changing yet
[01:51] <corden> where to find cd checksum of the iso?
[01:51] <Damdempsel> Ok, thanks.
[01:51] <mnaines> braintorch: No, I am not.
[01:51] <stone1343> ben64 unfortunately i'm not techie to help u debug it
[01:51] <netrat> wow the update servers are super slow with everyone upgrading to 9.10
[01:51] <darkham> are this ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64 karmic compatibles?
[01:51] <braintorch> mnaines: lucky
[01:51] <darkham> please help?
[01:51] <mnaines> braintorch: It is because I did a clean install
[01:52] <Hillshum> How do I make a USB stick with the 11.2 RC?
[01:52] <Ben64> stone1343: that's fine. good to know someone else with this netbook has it working
[01:52] <heylala> Black_Phantom: and it spins up and then doesn't boot?
[01:52] <Recursive> I'm upgrading to Karmic; in the process, it gave me a list of packages that are no longer supported. Some of these, like gcc 4.3, I'm guessing are due to newer versions' availability. Is that the case for all of them? Or is Canonical dropping support for major functionality?
[01:52] <mnaines> braintorch: If you watch the conversations in this room long enough, you will see why I recommend a clean install
[01:52] <Ben64> stone1343: btw, UNR or regular Ubuntu?
[01:52] <syk> i get this error when i try to update my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/304709/
[01:52] <Black_Phantom> heylala, yes then it switched to LAN booting then goes back to HDD
[01:52] <stone1343> ben64 working and loving it! UNR
[01:52] <sweetandy> Recursive: That would be evil. Gcc'll still be around.
[01:52] <Ben64> cool, thx for the info
[01:52] <Hillshum> Nevermind, wrong channel
[01:52] <stone1343> ben64 goodluck
[01:52] <dksoba88> in 9.10 is there a menu.lst?
[01:52] <heylala> Recursive: I just asked the same thing. I had one upgrade that borked my system. I'm taking a chance and doing it again
[01:52] <dooglus> Recursive: they're just all packages you no longer need.
[01:53] <Recursive> sweetandy, I know that, I'm wondering what's the meaning of all the other packages
[01:53] <SeaPhor> Whitor, did u run the update mgr after doing the upgrade of sources ?
[01:53] <Andorin> Will the software in the "Software Center" that's marked as "not available in the current data" soon become available for download?
[01:53] <braintorch> mnaines: i'm too. And when I upgraded from 9.04 to beta there wasn't those messages
[01:53] <Mike_lifeguard> netrat: who might have guessed!? use torrents!
[01:53] <dooglus> Recursive: they're stuff that 'apt-get autoremove' would remove if you ran it
[01:53] <Recursive> dooglus, OK thanks
[01:53] <Whitor> SeaPhor, yeah, thats where I looked, they are indeed enabled
[01:53] <mickster04> dksoba88, nmope
[01:53] <mickster04> dksoba88, nope
[01:53] <Pooky1> aight im bouncing good night or day guys and gals !
[01:53] <jayferd> Hey I think my request got buried.  Can somebody point me in the right direction? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304705/
[01:53] <dave_atl> just upgraded server to 9.10 - mysql5.1 caused a few problems but it is now up and running
[01:53] <mnaines> braintorch: Well, I haven't had any problems, but then again, I tend to leave my machine running all the time
[01:53] <LiteHedded> can someone tell me why my screensaver doesn't come on when i lock my screen?
[01:53] <darkham> are this ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64 karmic compatibles?
[01:53] <ProfOak> Is karmic running smoothly for anyone?
[01:53] <Whitor> SeaPhor, yes I did
[01:54] <corden> guys what's the official checksum of 9.10? just need to confirm my download tnx.
[01:54] <dooglus> ProfOak: not bad for me
[01:54] <dksoba88> mickster04, ic... any website you can recommend on modify the grub boot menu?
[01:54] <mickster04> ProfOak, yeah
[01:54] <mnaines> ProfOak: Its running seamlessly for me
[01:54] <dave_atl> ProfOak - working for m
[01:54] <swufty> netbook remix running smooth here on an acer aspire one
[01:54] <Black_Phantom> heylala any idea ?
[01:54] <SeaPhor> Whitor, look at System>Admin..>Hardware Drivers
[01:54] <stone1343> litehedded cuz locking the screen isn't the same as starting the screensaver
[01:54] <mickster04> dksoba88, the grub websote has loads of info regarding grub 2
[01:54] <dksoba88> mickster04, I found some 10_linux 00_header... etc files but they don't really seem to be intuitive
[01:54] <dooglus> corden: depends on the architecture and whether it's the desktop, netbook, etc. version
[01:54] <heylala> Black_Phantom: No actually. Try searching with your model number for any info.
[01:54] <Mike_lifeguard> corden: Can you not find them yourself? It really isn't that hard!
[01:54] <Whitor> SeaPhor, empty
[01:54] <ProfOak> Strange, it's giving me a bunch of gui glitches
[01:54] <LiteHedded> when i locked the screen in the past the screensaver would come on
[01:54] <TecnoBrat> Anyone know how to move the notifications (libnotify?) in 9.10?
[01:54] <stone1343> litehedded you need to wait for the screensave to come on
[01:55] <DB42> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=EolYj%1C%AF%3Bt%0E%B5%95%82%89b%5BJR%04%29 <-- why isn't this torrent working for me ? utorrent says it's an invalid file (ubuntu-9.10-dvd-amd64.iso) is there another link for that .torrent ?
[01:55] <Hillshum> Trying to start both vlc and Vbox gives me a bus error. Anyone know why?
[01:55] <corden> i been looking for it
[01:55] <mickster04> ProfOak, i am using an asus 900
[01:55] <SeaPhor> Whitor, so u have all updates...
[01:55] <Guest84455> does any one have a thinkpad here? using the ultranav to scroll ?
[01:55] <BuggerMe> i ain't even got no sound
[01:55] <c3l_> I just installed 9.10 and i accidentally klicked "skip" in the installation process. What was it that I skipped? :(
[01:55] <Whitor> SeaPhor, apparently
[01:55] <stone1343> litehedded logging out just puts up a login prompt
[01:55] <corden> ok ill look for it
[01:55] <FireCrotch> TecnoBrat: I believe here's a gconf key for it, and you can only move it left and right
[01:55] <jamieleshaw> Hello, any news on the Karmic compatinilty tester
[01:55] <Black_Phantom> heylala, do you I shall report it as a bug ? maybe they can give me a solution?
[01:55] <jayferd> anyone? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/304705/
[01:55] <LiteHedded> im not logging out
[01:55] <mikechelen> dksoba88, "startupmanager" package is helpful
[01:55] <Black_Phantom> think*
[01:55] <LiteHedded> i'm locking the screen
[01:55] <netrat> c3l_: probably the media test
[01:55] <SeaPhor> Whitor, so u have all updates...did the updates require a reboot? if so did you?
[01:55] <dooglus> c3l_: teh spellchekcer?
[01:56] <stone1343> litehedded what do you mean locking the screen then?
[01:56] <Mike_lifeguard> !torrent | DB42
[01:56] <TecnoBrat> FireCrotch: hmmm cause in 9.10 its lower than it was in 9.04, and kinda annoys me ....
[01:56] <LiteHedded> ctrl alt L
[01:56] <mnaines> SeaPhor: I didn't have to update 9.10 after I installed it
[01:56] <ashley__> anyone know a good window manager for running multiple displays?
[01:56] <Elias_> goodnight channel and especially, big thanks to Plugh for answering my XFree86 questions
[01:56] <dksoba88> mikechelen, thanks...
[01:56] <maggot_brain> !torrents
[01:56] <c3l_> netrat nothing important then?
[01:56] <ripps> darkham: don't install ati drivers from the manufacter, use the one's included in the repos or those in the ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ppa
[01:56] <Elias_> if you ever feel like a beer man give me a holler :)
[01:56] <Plugh> Night, Elias_
[01:56] <Whitor> SeaPhor, I'll try another just to be safe
[01:56] <c3l_> dooglus, would it be possible to run that part of the installation again? ;p
[01:56] <choronzon> I downloaded the alternate cd and I'm trying to upgrade using it, but it is downloading some stuff from the servers, wasn't it supposed not to do that?
[01:56] <netrat> c3l_: no probabaly not
[01:56] <Plugh> Sure thing (although I'm not a beer drinker)
[01:56] <stone1343> litehedded brb
[01:56] <FireCrotch> TecnoBrat: I could be wrong about being able to move it left to right only... but I'm pretty sure that its still a gconf key
[01:56] <LiteHedded> ok
[01:56] <jayferd> okay, i guess i'll go elsewhere...
[01:56] <dooglus> c3l_: I wuz jokeing.  you don't need to run it
[01:56] <Lint> can you recommend me some mediaplayer with music library?
[01:57] <dooglus> Lint: rhythmbox?
[01:57] <Lars_G> Hal is not detecting my lid close, and it did on 9.04 :( sigh
[01:57] <mickster04> anybody gettin odd battery alert and info problems?
[01:57] <johnboker> burning cd now, hopefully this time it'll work...
[01:57] <Lars_G> So it's probably a kernel change
[01:57] <Lint> dooglus, obviously not
[01:57] <maggot_brain> Lint: Decibel Audio Player is what I use
[01:57] <c3l_> dooglus, ah oke, ty=)
[01:57] <darkham> ripps
[01:57] <darkham> ok
[01:57] <johnboker> it's going to take forever getting it back to the way i had things.
[01:57] <dooglus> Lint: why not?  it's a mediaplayer with a music library
[01:57] <TecnoBrat> FireCrotch: I'll see what I can dig up
[01:58] <Black_Phantom> is there any other way of installing ubuntu rather than booting from the BIOS ?
[01:58] <Lint> dooglus, because it's junk and its developers are scumbags?
[01:58] <stone1343> litehedded dunno, i'm using netboot remix, lock screen doesn't do anything for me
[01:58] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, what do you mean?
[01:58] <dooglus> Lint: ah, right.  amaroK then?
[01:58] <LiteHedded> bummer
[01:58] <dksoba88> mikechelen, how can I remove items from the boot menu...?
[01:58] <Darckengel> Anyone available to help me on my Flash problem?
[01:58] <LiteHedded> stone1343: thanks anyway
[01:58] <Lint> I need something that works?
[01:58] <mnaines> For all those who want to check out a book on Ubuntu, I would recommend "The Official Ubuntu Book", written by top contributors to the Ubuntu project.  It covers Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, common problems and troubleshooting issues, command line stuff, and installation issues
[01:58] <Whitor> SeaPhor, Reboot was all it took. Thanks!
[01:58] <mickster04> Darckengel, yes
[01:58] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, like am seriously facing troubles regarding booting the 9.10 cd
[01:58] <dooglus> Lint: itunes?
[01:58] <stone1343> litehedded np sry
[01:58] <sabayonweb_48723> how do i upgrade to ubuntu studio ?
[01:58] <Roasted> I just installed karmic. My two backup drives, which are identical 250gb drives, are showing up as nvidia_raid_member when I run sudo blkid. I cant mount these drives. What happened to them??
[01:58] <netrat> dksoba88: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:58] <xdemo> hi, im about to install 64bit karmic, if i simply delete the current ubuntu partitions will my windows vista still be bootable within grub2?
[01:58] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, from the BIOS
[01:59] <SeaPhor> Whitor, so you're good ?
[01:59] <diofeher> heeeeey,  where's the menu.list file of grub? i don't found it
[01:59] <Andisu> how to i add a route for internet using gateway <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ?
[01:59] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, well u could try the usb? boot everything boots from the bios?
[01:59] <mikh37> hello
[01:59] <dksoba88> netrat, 9.10 doesn't have that
[01:59] <sweetandy> diofeher: /boot/grub/menu.1st
[01:59] <diofeher> heeeeey,  where's the menu.list file of grub? i don't found it in 9.10 karmic ://
[01:59] <Whitor> SeaPhor, Yep I'm good. thanks again
[01:59] <Black_Phantom> mickster04 yes
[01:59] <sabayonweb_48723> how do i upgrade to ubuntu studio from xfce edition ?
[01:59] <stone1343> sabayonweb_48723 just add the package in synaptic, i've done it before
[01:59] <SeaPhor> Whitor, no prob,,,
[01:59] <bpun> anybody here know about exfat and if ubuntu is working on something for it?
[01:59] <dooglus> rhythmbox works ok for me.  I've not met its deveopers, so can't say whether they're scumbags or not, but if the software's ok I don't really care.
[01:59] <Recursive> Is there any easy and supported way to upgrade to Karmic with Bittorrent other than torrenting the ISO and reinstalling?
[01:59] <Black_Phantom> mickster04 I think the problem will presist since its not detecting the data as bootable !
[01:59] <Andisu> how to i add a route for internet using gateway <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ?
[02:00] <diofeher> sweetandy: i know the path.. but this file doesn't exist here ://
[02:00] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, well theres a problem with ur disk?
[02:00] <Flannel> Recursive: torrent the alternate CD and upgrade
[02:00] <dooglus> Recursive: no.  if you're using bittorrent, you'll be downloading the whole ISO
[02:00] <netrat> Andisu: route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:00] <mikh37> I'm new in ubuntu and linux in general; I was trying to install vlc but then got an error while changing somethng in synaptic
[02:00] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, now I burned it 3 times and md5sum are perfect, and I tried the alternative cd but still the same problem
[02:00] <Lint> it's not ok, you cannot rename songs in the library
[02:00] <dooglus> Recursive: you could use the update-manager to upgrade your existing install, but it won't use bittorrent to do so
[02:00] <mikh37> can someone help me, please_
[02:00] <mikh37> ?
[02:00] <jiohdi> ok, what am I missing... 9.10 has no support for flash video, no support for flv and mp4 files?
[02:00] <CopyWriter> hey guys i'm downloading now, is 9.10 an lts release
[02:00] <lstarnes> ChogyDan: no
[02:00] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, you  could try a wubi install?
[02:00] <Ben64> CopyWriter: no
[02:00] <stone1343> copywriter no
[02:01] <lstarnes> ChogyDan: lts releases are ever 2 years (or 4 releases)
[02:01] <xdemo> does anyone know if i can reinstall ubuntu while keeping my vista partition? im switching from 32bit to 64bit karmic, and wondering if grub/grub2 will conflict
[02:01] <axisys> how do I install flash? i am using 64bit ubuntu desktop
[02:01] <Recursive> dooglus, are they going to support this at some point? It wants to download 1.6 GB of packages and the Ubuntu servers are soooo sloooow.
[02:01] <mickster04> have u tried booting whatever u have normally then inserting the disk
[02:01] <Whitor> mikh37, most likely, just ask your question
[02:01] <dooglus> Lint: I've not tried.  I've been able to rename the albums and artists of songs.  not tried editing the song names.
[02:01] <Roasted> I just installed karmic. My two backup drives, which are identical 250gb drives, are showing up as nvidia_raid_member when I run sudo blkid. I cant mount these drives. What happened to them??
[02:01] <lstarnes> ChogyDan: tentatively, the next LTS is 10.04
[02:01] <Ben64> next LTS is 10.04
[02:01] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, I need it as an OS, not a software inside Windows
[02:01] <ChogyDan> lstarnes: wrong person mate
[02:01] <lstarnes> ChogyDan: oops.
[02:01] <CopyWriter> oh... when is that going to be out
[02:01] <ChogyDan> :p
[02:01] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, its is bootable
[02:01] <dooglus> Recursive: go to 'software sources' and tell if to pick the 'best server'.  it'll find a non-ubuntu one that's faster.
[02:01] <qwyeth> CopyWriter, in 10/04 :D
[02:01] <lstarnes> CopyWriter: no, but 9.10 can be upgraded to 10.04
[02:01] <Ben64> 10.04 = 2010,04 = April, 2010
[02:01] <Black_Phantom> mickster04 it is, It booted successfully on my desktop, but it wont on my Toshiba Satellite
[02:01] <Edson`> How come when I put my flash drive in my PC while on Ubuntu, Ubuntu never reads it?
[02:02] <dooglus> Recursive: or just wait 24h and the ubuntu servers will be faster again
[02:02] <dooglus> today they seem to be slow for some reason.  perhaps planetary alignment or something, idk
[02:02] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, have u updated that bios ever?
[02:02] <Lint> amarok will take 219 MB, is that fscking joke? Please, name me just one player with working media library
[02:02] <bpun> Edson`, cuse you suck?
[02:02] <lstarnes> dooglus: there was a huge release
[02:02] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, I dont think so
[02:02] <CopyWriter> lol, now i understand the numbering scheme
[02:02] <Recursive> dooglus, thanks for the tip about "best server", that should help
[02:02] <dooglus> lstarnes: that's one theory
[02:02] <axisys> do I install flashplugin-installer or flashplugin-nonfree ?
[02:02] <axisys> !flash
[02:02] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, are you sure ur bios allows booting off a disk?
[02:02] <CopyWriter> thanks guys
[02:02] <lstarnes> axisys: try -nonfree
[02:02] <bpun> axisys, flash sucks
[02:02] <bpun> lol
[02:03] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, I think the problem is from ubuntu ?? since its booting every other cd including other ubuntu versions
[02:03] <jayrox> I need help installing 9.10 netbook remix...
[02:03] <axisys> lstarnes: thanks
[02:03] <qwyeth> axisys, flash worked fine in my upgrade but it failed after a clean install
[02:03] <egaudet> what package is the jar binary in?
[02:03] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, except 9.10
[02:03] <axisys> qwyeth: i am on 64 bit .. are you same too ?
[02:03] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, well if it has worked on the other pc...?
[02:03] <stone1343> jayrox what help, i'm running UNR
[02:03] <qwyeth> axisys, for that reason I'll be trying nonfree... tell me if it works for you
[02:03] <trism> axisys: flashplugin-nonfree just points to flashplugin-installer
[02:03] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, yes
[02:03] <Roasted> I just installed karmic. My two backup drives, which are identical 250gb drives, are showing up as nvidia_raid_member when I run sudo blkid. I cant mount these drives. What happened to them??
[02:03] <xdemo> how do i ensure my windows partition is still bootable after wiping my current 9.04 ubuntu partitions and installing karmic into them?
[02:03] <axisys> bpun: i need that to watch hulu
[02:03] <qwyeth> trism, axisys:  Ack, I meant froo
[02:03] <qwyeth> *free
[02:04] <qwyeth> wow typos are out tonight
[02:04] <Lint> can you recommend me some mediaplayer with music library, not sh*t like rhythmbox and amarok?
[02:04] <blah569> On the "Upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10" page, it says that I must be using 9.04 to upgrade.  However, I'm using 9.10 Alpha 2.  Are you able to update from Alpha 2?
[02:04] <qwyeth> axisys, no, I'm 32bit
[02:04] <mnaines> xdemo: Does the Windows partition have its own MBR?
[02:04] <jayrox> I need help installing it haha... how did you make a bootable USB? the download is an iso file right
[02:04] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, what im saying is that its niether the fisk nor the laptop:P so its a problem i cant fix:/
[02:04] <xdemo> mbr?
[02:04] <sabayonweb_48723> 9.10 has some serious regressions on older hardware
[02:04] <CopyWriter> hey guys, what'd be the difference between an lts release and one like today 9.10
[02:04] <xdemo> its on the same hard disk
[02:04] <ripps> !final | blah569
[02:04] <mnaines> xdemo: Master Boot Record
[02:04] <stone1343> jayrox, you using windows now?
[02:04] <CopyWriter> !lts
[02:04] <xdemo> im not sure
[02:04] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, thats whats driving me insane ;/
[02:04] <Edson`> How come when I put my flash drive in my PC while on Ubuntu, Ubuntu never reads it?
[02:04] <dooglus> egaudet: sun-java6-bin maybe?
[02:04] <mickster04> CopyWriter, long term support
[02:04] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, do u think updating the BIOS might help ?
[02:05] <jayrox> no i have 2 laptops. one is my mini 9 using 9.04 unr. the other is windows based
[02:05] <Recursive> CopyWriter, the idea behind LTS is that some people don't have the time/resources to upgrade their install every 6 months
[02:05] <egaudet> dooglus, nope
[02:05] <stone1343> jayrox i'm using ubuntu, i use USB Startup Disk Creator
[02:05] <CopyWriter> does it use the same software like in a stable branch
[02:05] <dooglus> egaudet: sun-java6-jdk then?
[02:05] <mickster04> Black_Phantom, maybe, but seeing as the most revent thing that worked was the cd id argue that the laptop is not playing fair
[02:05] <jayrox> how did u use it? please help
[02:05] <xdemo> well, if i copy my current grub section, for booting windows... if karmic doesnt find vista, can i just add the few lines to the grub config?
[02:05] <Recursive> CopyWriter, yeah, it's just that it will get out of date; upgrades will only improve stability and not add features
[02:05] <Black_Phantom> mickster04, true
[02:05] <Recursive> mostly
[02:05] <johnboker> mnaines The graphical install with the cd has the whitescreen problem i've been experiencing too
[02:06] <tianna> ok
[02:06] <CopyWriter> got it
[02:06] <CopyWriter> thanks guys
[02:06] <mnaines> xdemo: When people want to dual-boot, I recommend only plugging in one drive at a time when installing the operating systems.  Plug in one drive, install Windows, unplug that and plug in the second drive then install Ubuntu, then plug in the first drive.  This way, both of them will have their own master boot record.  Grub will see that and ask you which drive to boot into at startup.
[02:06] <qwyeth> I'm seriously looking forward to 10.04 LTS because so much progress has been made since '08
[02:06] <tianna> so i need help i am cconfused when trying to download adobe flash player
[02:06] <SJr> What should I do with this Warty Warthog machine?
[02:06] <lstarnes> tianna: are you using the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[02:06] <egaudet> sun-java6-jdk wants to install 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04, which errors.  I'm using 9.10
[02:06] <pasteeater> is it possible to choose a repository before or during installation?  i'm using the alternate disc.
[02:06] <CopyWriter> !restricted
[02:07] <lstarnes> SJr: backup and install a newer relkease
[02:07] <dooglus> tianna: just use synaptic to install package 'flashplugin-nonfree' ?
[02:07] <Recursive> Yay ~800 kb/s down from package server, thanks dooglus
[02:07] <lstarnes> *release
[02:07] <qwyeth> mnaines, couldn't you just switch the boot order in the bios before each install?
[02:07] <dooglus> Recursive: you're very welcome
[02:07] <jayrox> ok i think i found out what i was doing wrong thanx though
[02:07] <tianna> see thats the problem i dont kow whta that is
[02:07] <lstarnes> tianna: look in system > administration > synaptic package manager
[02:07] <tianna> where is synaptic first of all
[02:07] <dooglus> Recursive: that server may be a little behind the *.ubuntu.com ones, but it's worth it for the extra speed
[02:07] <mickster04> anybody getting odd battery alert and info problems?
[02:07] <mnaines> qwyeth: This way is better because you don't need to change the BIOS settings at all, and I do not recommend changing BIOS settings unless you know what you're doing.
[02:07] <lstarnes> tianna: search for flashplugin-nonfree
[02:07] <dooglus> tianna: in system > administration menu
[02:07] <Darckengel> I need assistance with flash as well.
[02:08] <lstarnes> tianna: right-click on it, mark for installation, then apply changes
[02:08] <dooglus> lstarnes: tianna can't find 'synaptic'
[02:08] <mnaines> qwyeth: Plus, this way, if one drive fails, you can still boot up and recover the data off the other drive
[02:08] <Darckengel> I know this sounds weird, but my friends and I play HabboHotel at our work... in out free time of course, and it's laggy for me on my Acer Aspire One.
[02:08] <qwyeth> mnaines, see, I'm the opposite; I would rather my users not be pulling around cables unless they knew what they were doing :D
[02:08] <tianna> i caznt its not in system
[02:08] <lstarnes> dooglus: I pointed to its exact location
[02:08] <lstarnes> dooglus: oh
[02:08] <Darckengel> Any suggestions?
[02:09] <mnaines> qwyeth: Hardware is a lot harder for a beginner user to mess up than firmware and software are
[02:09] <Darckengel> I've tried converting back to the F9 drivers, r48 and the other one.
[02:09] <dooglus> lstarnes: so I see - it's hard keeping up when it's scrolling this fast...
[02:09] <Darckengel> I'm current on SwiftFox which seems to make browsing easier, but no affect on Flash.
[02:09] <Roasted> QUESTION - I have 4 drives in my system. I did a manual partitioning. I set up my first 2 drives just fine. My 2nd two I left alone to deal with later. I DID NOT FORMAT THEM. The file system becamecorrupt, according to GParted. Why in the world did installing 9.10 corrupt the file system on 2 of my 4 drives when I didn't make any settings changeds to those drives?
[02:09] <tianna> what is /bin /sh
[02:10] <qwyeth> mnaines, it's also a lot less convenient when the user *does* mess it up
[02:10] <dooglus> tianna: /bin/sh is a command shell
[02:10] <lstarnes> tianna: /bin/sh is a shell or command line
[02:10] <tianna> ok it says it need this
[02:10] <xdemo> can i post screenshot links in here?
[02:10] <dooglus> tianna: but you shouldn't need to know that.  why do you ask?
[02:10] <Darckengel> Roasted : Are they setup on a RAID?
[02:10] <tianna> but what command
[02:10] <lstarnes> tianna: it should be part of an ubuntu install
[02:10] <tianna> it told me that
[02:10] <mnaines> qwyeth: Yes, but guys like me who are hardware gurus can help them so that doesn't happen
[02:10] <johnboker> about ready to just install windows 7
[02:10] <lstarnes> tianna: /bin/sh
[02:10] <dooglus> tianna: it's like the "DOS Prompt" (cmd.txt) thing on windows
[02:10] <tianna> it is for adobe install packages
[02:10] <tianna> yes i know
[02:10] <seth__> I'm having a weird issue: I am running ubuntu J on my home desktop computer.  I am the only user set up on the computer.  Earlier today, I tried to open a large pdf file (in adobe reader) on my relatively old computer.  This took a long time and slowed things down immensely.  I ended up having to restart the computer by turning off and on the power bar.  Here's where things get weird: now, after starting up, the syst
[02:10] <seth__> em runs fine.  After a few minutes though, the system slows down immensely.  When I try to restart properly, it asks me for my administrative password since it says 'another user is logged in' (even though I am the only user on the computer).  This happens each time I restart the computer.   Which confuses me because sudo blkid says nvidia-raid-member. I have no idea why....
[02:11] <mike999> I'm having an issue in trying to install ubuntu 9.10 as it says not enough room on /boot. I went into Synaptics and removed all the extra kernel headers anything I can do to increase space on /boot ?
[02:11] <tianna> where do i start?
[02:11] <mattwj2002> !slow
[02:11] <lstarnes> Darckengel: it works pretty well with the official linux version
[02:11] <mickster04> johnboker, its not as bad as vista
[02:11] <lstarnes> tianna: type that in a terminal
[02:11] <tianna> where though durlin
[02:11] <xdemo> http://i35.tinypic.com/4g24vo.png   /dev/sda3 is my current 9.04 , and i need to know, when i install karmic... can i just simply format sda3 to ext4 and install karmic in the empty space?
[02:11] <johnboker> mickster04 yeah, i have windows 7  at work and like it
[02:11] <Lint> why am I asked for password while opening my drives in Places bar?
[02:11] <lstarnes> tianna: applications > accessories > terminal
[02:12] <mnaines> xdemo: I did that and had no problems
[02:12] <Darckengel> Flash is epic slow for me, even though I've already tried all the work arounds and I'm running Xubuntu.
[02:12] <Lint> how can I swith it off?
[02:12] <Recursive> query ubotto
[02:12] <lstarnes> Lint: it might require root/superuser permissions
[02:12] <qwyeth> lstarnes, which version would that be?
[02:12] <mickster04> Lint, cos to mount them u have to have permission
[02:12] <xdemo> ok, so windows will automatically be detected on grub2?
[02:12] <lstarnes> qwyeth: which version of what?
[02:12] <seth__> Anyone able to help me?  This issue is really screwing me over right now
[02:12] <mickster04> xdemo, in theory
[02:12] <mnaines> xdemo: Um...Only if you dual-boot the way I told you earlier
[02:12] <xdemo> ok thankyou. but if it isnt, i can manually add a grub entry for it though?
[02:12] <tianna> so i type the sudo thing in here
[02:13] <lstarnes> tianna: in the teeminal window
[02:13] <lstarnes> *terminal
[02:13] <qwyeth> lstarnes, you mean flash works well in karmic?  mine works after an upgrade, but my clean install hasn't been so clean with flash
[02:13] <Lint> in Hardy I've been not asked for it. Why the hell it's broken now?
[02:13] <lstarnes> qwyeth: if you're asking which version of flash I am using, I am using adobe's official 32-bit build of flash 10 for linux through ndiswrapper
[02:13] <mnaines> xdemo: Yes, but I do not know anything about GRUB so I cannot help you with the entries
[02:13] <egaudet> Does anyone know how to get jar binary or other jar extraction in 9.10
[02:13] <lstarnes> Lint: what are you using now?
[02:13] <juststopedforcou> Acer AO751h is very slow. Just installed 9.10 remix. Anyone able to help?
[02:13] <Lint> karmic
[02:13] <comicinker> seth__: sounds strange
[02:13] <tianna> command not found
[02:13] <qwyeth> *blinks*
[02:13] <xrandr> ok, what could cause me to have to constantly reboot to get sound working? sometimes it works in the beginning, then just fails. Songbird says my gstreamer is missing a plugin. ideas on what that could be?
[02:13] <lstarnes> Lint: karmic isn't hardy, so expect things to be different
[02:13] <seth__> I know.  And I have an assignment due tomorrow so I really need my computer working
[02:14] <LinuX2half> I'm having trouble upgrading my ubuntu operating system
[02:14] <lstarnes> tianna: what command did you type in?
[02:14] <Lint> lstarnes, would you please stop trolling please?
[02:14] <tianna> sudo flashplugion-nonfree the one you gave me earlier word for word though
[02:14] <mnaines> LinuX2half: I would recommend doing a clean install, not an upgrade.  There are too many issues with upgrading.
[02:14] <LinuX2half> When the program is fetching packages the program closed saying that the upgrade can't be installed
[02:14] <lstarnes> Lint: that is not trolling
[02:14] <comicinker> seth__: do you have adobe reader still running?
[02:14] <Cyboth> hey guys, am I the only one experiencing problems with installing Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix? from the boot, I select Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, I see the ubuntu logo and then my screen goes black (I have an Aspire One)
[02:14] <Darckengel> juststopedforcho : Try Xubuntu.
[02:15] <LinuX2half> mnaines: clean install?
[02:15] <Darckengel> XFCE is way faster than GNOME, although less customizable.
[02:15] <seth__> doesn't look like it... unless it is being run by some 'other user'
[02:15] <hans_> Hy everibody!
[02:15] <lstarnes> Lint: does it look like the normal "run as admin" applet?
[02:15] <tianna> now it says it is not allowed to execute as a root on local host
[02:15] <Recursive> LinuX2half, that means making an install disk and reinstalling Ubuntu
[02:15] <mnaines> LinuX2half: Meaning delete 9.04, reformat into ext4 and install 9.10
[02:15] <dooglus> what's the fastest desktop environment?  xfce4?  fluxbox?  what?
[02:15] <comicinker> seth__: check with ps ax | grep acro
[02:15] <Deathvalley122> well the upgrade is nice but the sound driver sounds a bit crappy
[02:15] <Darckengel> XFCE4
[02:16] <Lint> it's called 'Authorization required' and it's asking for my user password
[02:16] <xdemo> i'd say fluxbox  dooglus
[02:16] <hans_> I have a strange problem, but maybe I'm just stupid...
[02:16] <Recursive> dooglus, there are many different DE's out there
[02:16] <dooglus> Recursive: I know, but which is fastest?
[02:16] <Recursive> all with varying speed's/usabilities
[02:16] <seth__> Sorry.  I'm a relative beginner.  What does that mean exactly/how do I do that
[02:16] <qwyeth> dooglus, fluxbox is very fast, but xmonad is probably faster
[02:16] <dooglus> Recursive: on a low RAM box
[02:16] <juststopedforcou> hans: go for it :)
[02:16] <tianna> how do i access my files through linux to get them from windows?
[02:16] <jjrev> dooglus: xfce, fluxbox, openbox, awesome, etc.
[02:16] <mnaines> I cannot answer any questions about DE speed because I have too much RAM on a quad-core machine to get an accurate measurement of speed
[02:16] <seme> is anyone else having issues downloading apps on 9.10?
[02:16] <xtsuname> is there a channel here that help people on logic questions?
[02:16] <mattwj2002> man the mirrors are slllooowww
[02:16] <LinuX2half> Delete 9.04? How do I even delete it?
[02:16] <seme> I don't know why but it appears that downloads are really slow
[02:16] <qwyeth> dooglus, when you get down to DEs that are that small and trim, you start giving up major features in favor of speed
[02:17] <Royall> come on, magic 2111
[02:17] <jjrev> seme: possibly the servers are busy with all the installs?
[02:17] <xtsuname> LinuX2half, sudo rm -rf /
[02:17] <LinuX2half> There will be no operating system
[02:17] <lstarnes> seme: the mirrors are being slow right not due to hundreds of users installing ubuntu 9.10
[02:17] <mnaines> LinuX2half: Download the 9.10 ISO then boot from the CD and install that way
[02:17] <lstarnes> !danger
[02:17] <xdemo> LinuX2half, use gparted in liveCD mode, if you want to keep existing partitions
[02:17] <comicinker> seth__: see pm
[02:17] <dooglus> qwyeth: I don't really want major features.  I just want to be able to run a web browser & emacs quickly
[02:17] <dooglus> qwyeth: and switch between them
[02:17] <tianna> ?
[02:17] <Cyboth> hey guys, am I the only one experiencing problems with installing Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix? from the boot, I select Install Ubuntu Netbook Remix, I see the ubuntu logo and then my screen goes black (I have an Aspire One)
[02:17] <tianna> no help
[02:18] <lstarnes> tianna: use sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:18] <lstarnes> tianna: you can use the ntfs-3g package to mount windows drives
[02:18] <tianna> ok i did it is not allowed on a root
[02:18] <dooglus> I wonder if anyone can tell me a way to get the photos off my Sony Erisson phone onto my ubuntu 9.10 laptop?
[02:18] <tianna> what does that mean
[02:18] <Recursive> dooglus, go with something like openbox or something like that
[02:18] <qwyeth> dooglus: fluxbox would suit your needs, but xfce would probably be more comfortable for a casual user.  Give xfce a shot.  also consider LXDE
[02:18] <lstarnes> tianna: what was the exact reply message?
[02:18] <anom01y> is there any way I can get gotomeeting to work in Linux ?
[02:18] <Recursive> dooglus, I personally like LXDE
[02:18] <anom01y> or is there an alternative ?
[02:18] <dooglus> my current method involves using WinXP to copy them onto a memory stick, then using the memory stick to move them here
[02:18] <dooglus> but that's obviously sub-optimal
[02:18] <tianna> not allowed to execute as a root local host local domain
[02:19] <Hillshum> dooglus: I'd take LXDE over XFCE
[02:19] <Recursive> dooglus, it's not completely barebones, it has the minimum features you expect without bloat
[02:19] <dooglus> I use XFCE atm
[02:19] <hans_> So: I have GPARTED installd on my machine, but I don't find it anywhere... Not at the Applications menu. Yes I'v checked the 'Edit menus', but nowhere... Is there something I do not notice? I'd really need to chop my partitions, because I have tot t
[02:19] <Morbrorfultjack> test
[02:19] <OmiKrOn> hi *
[02:19] <hans_> test encription in windows but dont have partittion
[02:19] <OmiKrOn> how to switch mirrors in apt?
[02:19] <dooglus> never heard of LXDE, but will give it a go
[02:19] <juststopedforcou> Cyboth I am having soooo much problems with 9.10 on AO5751h too. Try to load it and then start installation. That's what I did, cause my AO was freezing all the time.
[02:19] <hans_> and windows sins a while :_)
[02:19] <dooglus> OmiKrOn: use the 'software sources' tool
[02:19] <ChogyDan> hans_: it is under the Adminstration menu as Partition Editor
[02:20] <tianna> well thank you anyway darling i know it is probably frustrating,,
[02:20] <tianna> good night
[02:20] <ripps> hans_: restart gnome-panel and try looking again, I think it get put in system->administration
[02:20] <OmiKrOn> dooglus: how do I do that in text mode?
[02:20] <Lint> ok so what should I do to mount my own drives without password?
[02:20] <dooglus> OmiKrOn: in text mode I would just "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:20] <preecher> i was using enlightenment (e17) in u9.04--anyone kno if it will work in 9.10
[02:20] <hans_> ripps ::: doing now...
[02:21] <OmiKrOn> dooglus: ok so where can I find new mirrors?
[02:21] <lstarnes> Lint: which filesystems are being used on the drives?
[02:21] <CopyWriter> it's so incredible how much i'm able to multitask using ubuntu
[02:21] <LinuX2half> how do I upgrade using the terminal?
[02:21] <scratchme> Hi all.  I was reading about the Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) and I couldn't find if Windows VMs could be added to the system in any way.
[02:21] <ASrock> hey, im using ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 beta and when i try to use synaptic package manager to install progrms it can only get some packages but not others
[02:21] <rivercityransom> Guys I'm trying to recover data from a previous broken installation before formatting and installing karmic. It's telling me I do not have the permission to access the files.
[02:21] <Cyboth> juststopedforcou, tryed that even loading it won't work
[02:21] <Recursive> LinuX2half, man apt
[02:21] <Lint> lstarnes, fat16 and ntfs
[02:21] <rivercityransom> Using a live cd btw
[02:21] <CopyWriter> kinda take it for granted since i've not been using windows for a while
[02:21] <Recursive> LinuX2half, err, scratch that, try man aptitude
[02:21] <vingian> hello folks - trying ubuntu 9.10
[02:21] <dooglus> OmiKrOn: I'm not sure, but http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors is a good starting point maybe?
[02:21] <Recursive> or man apt-get
[02:21] <xal> Hi
[02:22] <vingian> and i just installed it on my laptop - and now whenever i boot into it - muy screen doesn't stop flickerin
[02:22] <juststopedforcou> Does anyone run 9.10 Remix on AO751h here? :)
[02:22] <xal> I just upgraded to 9.10. I'm having trouble with java. It crashes firefox with an error about rt.jar. I have searched and cannot find a solution.
[02:22] <mnaines> CopyWriter: I have been using Ubuntu since June and before that, I was a hard-core Windows user.  Ubuntu is so much faster and is easily capable of multitasking better than Windows
[02:22] <lstarnes> Lint: I forget which utility controls user access permissions
[02:22] <lstarnes> Lint: it might be something related to policykit
[02:22] <lstarnes> Lint: if you almost always have them mounted, consider adding them to /etc/fstab
[02:22] <CopyWriter> darn right
[02:23] <Black_Phantom> my laptop is detecting 9.10 as a blank cd !!
[02:23] <scratchme> mnaines, CopyWriter:  One thing I was looking for was nxserver or freenx server doing per application remoting, like VMWare unity, or seamlessRDP.
[02:23] <vingian> anyone have screen flickering with 9.10?
[02:23] <Niq2> hey does anyone else think that the Ubuntu Software Center is slow when installing packages?
[02:23] <mnaines> scratchme: What do you need it for?
[02:23] <lstarnes> Niq2: it is
[02:23] <DanaG> It does bug me that it asks me for password on eSATA drives.
[02:23] <vingian> Niq2: its probably just too many ppl upgrading
[02:24] <Niq2> ok, just making sure it's me
[02:24] <scratchme> mnaines, I want to run some apps on a different machine, but remote them to another one, without the standard "desktop" window.
[02:24] <mnaines> DanaG: You can change that
[02:24] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, Do any other CD's boot in this drive ?
[02:24] <Niq2> not me
[02:24] <LinuX2half> aptitude safe full upgrade?
[02:24] <lstarnes> Niq2: the mirrors are overloaded due to a lot of people upgrading
[02:24] <Niq2> well that's true
[02:24] <hans_> ChogyDan! It is there... Maybe a sleep would have beater result then partitioning at the moment. Thank you guys anyway! Good night to you all!
[02:24] <Black_Phantom> Whitor yes
[02:24] <lstarnes> Niq2: try again in a couple days
[02:24] <daleharvey> what happened to the fancy gnu screen ubuntu used to have?
[02:24] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, Have you checked recently ?
[02:24] <Niq2> well, I hope that's all it is then.
[02:24] <vingian> anyone?? screen flickering.????
[02:24] <daleharvey> like - http://junk.arandomurl.com/dev.png
[02:24] <Black_Phantom> Whitor checked that.. ?
[02:24] <xal2> I'm having trouble with java in 9.10. It crashes firefox everytime an applet starts. I am on x64
[02:24] <lstarnes> daleharvey: as in the terminal utility screen?
[02:24] <ripps> !details vingian
[02:25] <daleharvey> yeh
[02:25] <ripps> !details | vingian
[02:25] <dr3mro> me fix video aspect ratio on totem actors are tall
[02:25] <Wise-Guy> hi
[02:25] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, Have you checked that another CD will boot in the drive oyu are having troubles with ... ?
[02:25] <daleharvey> when I go into screen now its blank
[02:25] <Whitor> recently ...
[02:25] <dr3mro> plz help me fix video aspect ratio on totem actors are tall
[02:25] <DanaG> Take a look in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions
[02:25] <Statix138> Hello everyone
[02:25] <Black_Phantom> Whitor yes 50 seconds ago, it detected 8.10 and many other cds
[02:25] <Yos> what command can I type to see which programs are running ?
[02:25] <DanaG> there's a devicekit.disks thingy there.
[02:25] <dukz_> can i use the ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso to upgrade my system instead of the alternate cd?
[02:25] <lstarnes> Yos: ps ax
[02:25] <Yos> ty
[02:25] <Black_Phantom> Whitor its not even detecting it in Windows or Ubuntu
[02:25] <Madpilot> dukz_, don't think so, sorry.
[02:25] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, Ok... just checking,
[02:25] <dksoba88> dukz_, also want to know the answer to this
[02:25] <Flannel> dukz_: No, if you want to "upgrade" with the desktop CD you need to reinstall
[02:25] <lstarnes> dukz_: you can use that for a clean installation, but not an in-place upgrade
[02:26] <Rolcol> How'd the servers handle the traffic from 9.10?
[02:26] <lstarnes> Rolcol: the mirrors are being slow
[02:26] <dukz_> aw shucks... ok
[02:26] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, maybe it's a bad burn ... ?
[02:26] <vingian> Just installed 9.10 on my laptop - and now I can't boot into it because my screen flickers like crazy...
[02:26] <CopyWriter> i'm not that good at virtualization
[02:26] <Rolcol> Bittorrent is perfect for this.
[02:26] <Black_Phantom> Whitor, no I burned 3 times and checked the md5sum, and tried the alternative cd
[02:26] <CopyWriter> don't quite understandit got to dedicate some time to reading
[02:26] <dooglus> I wonder if anyone can tell me a way to get the photos off my Sony Erisson phone onto my ubuntu 9.10 laptop?
[02:26] <Black_Phantom> Whitor nothing worked :( i have been working on this since 5 hours
[02:26] <dooglus> my current method involves using WinXP to copy them onto a memory stick, then using the memory stick to move them here
[02:26] <dr3mro> can any one plz help me fix my fn keys
[02:26] <Yos> To see which programs are running right now ?
[02:26] <ukill> picasa dont work from the google repository for ubuntu ....mmmmm
[02:27] <scratchme> Rolcol, I downloaded 9.10 from University of Utah, and it was about 500KB/sec, which wasn't too bad overall.
[02:27] <Wise-Guy> i was running ubuntu 8.04 and tried to upgrade to 8.10 and accidentally installed the server version and can get only a command prompt, no gui, and want to know how i can install ubuntu desktop version 8.10 instead, with a command prompt
[02:27] <lstarnes> Yos: ps ax
[02:27] <Whitor> Black_Phantom, wow, sounds frustrating
[02:27] <Yos> hmm
[02:27] <Yos> ok
[02:27] <dksoba88> dukz_, I know...the in place upgrade didn't complete since I started it early this morning... (more than 12 hours) and to make it worse, I got disconnected from the internet which means I have to restart the whole damn thing
[02:27] <lstarnes> Yos: that will list all currently operating processes
[02:27] <lstarnes> Yos: for system load and process activity, use top or htop
[02:27] <ChogyDan> dksoba88: no, I don't think you will
[02:27] <dooglus> dksoba88: it should continue where it left off
[02:28] <Voss_> scratchme, if I could get 500kb/sec id be happy :)
[02:28] <yofel> dooglus: I can copy pictures from my nokia phone over bluetooth in ubuntu
[02:28] <dksoba88> dooglus and ChogyDan, thank goodness
[02:28] <ChogyDan> Wise-Guy: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <mnaines> Right now, I'm getting 500MB/sec download speeds, which is average, but still good for all the traffic on the mirrors
[02:28] <dksoba88> dooglus and ChogyDan, err... Ubuntu
[02:28] <scratchme> http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/karmic/
[02:28] <dooglus> yofel: this laptop doesn't have bluetooth - but I have a USB cable
[02:28] <Wise-Guy> ChogyDan, ok thnx
[02:28] <mnaines> 500KB/sec*
[02:28] <dukz_> dksoba88: I'm gonna download the alternate CD instead... I think it's going to be more stable then.
[02:28] <millstone> I cannot set my resolution to anything above 1280x1040? What's wrong?
[02:28] <dooglus> yofel: the phone (and memory stick) should appear as mass storage devices - but don't
[02:28] <Voss_> I have 1.2 dsl, which winds up being about 153k per second
[02:28] <dksoba88> dukz_, diff between alternate and regular?
[02:29] <mnaines> Voss_: I have 15MB/sec cable
[02:29] <vingian> according to the syslog its X server which is having issues
[02:29] <vingian> but I can't even log into through the virtual consoles
[02:29] <Flannel> dksoba88: As relevant to this discussion: You can upgrade from the alternate (but it's not a live CD)
[02:29] <vingian> coz even the virtual consoles flicker
[02:29] <comicinker> what does it mean to be logged in on pts/0 ?
[02:29] <dukz_> dksoba88: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading <--- it says you use it for in place upgrading
[02:29] <dksoba88> Flannel, what's the disadvantage to alternate?
[02:29] <scratchme> Voss_, ahh, well I have Cable and it's only supposed to be 7Mbit down, 1 up, but I seem to be getting 15/2 instead.
[02:29] <DanaG> one nice mirrir: mirrors.kernel.org
[02:29] <markITman> my upgrade to 9.10 does nothing
[02:29] <Voss_> mnaines, u mean 15mbps
[02:29] <xal2> I'm having trouble with java in 9.10. It crashes firefox everytime an applet starts. I am on x64
[02:29] <Flannel> dksoba88: It's not a LiveCD
[02:30] <Lint> are the some gui fstab editor?
[02:30] <mnaines> Voss_: Yes...15 down 1.5 up
[02:30]  * DanaG has only 5 megabits down, 0.5 up.
[02:30] <vingian> xal2: what version of java plugin do you have?
[02:30] <xal2> 6
[02:30] <Voss_> mnaines I get about 1.2 mbps, uverse when it comes out will have 24 mbps
[02:30] <Flannel> dksoba88: Also, installation takes slightly longer than the desktop CD, because it's gotta go through and use dpkg to install each package, instead of just copying stuff to your disk.  But that's not terribly important.
[02:30] <dukz_> my plan is to put the iso content into a usb, and detect the packages from there then do the in place upgrade...
[02:30] <vingian> xal2: how'd you install it?
[02:30] <xal2> through apt-get
[02:30] <DragonMinded> So i've just upgraded to 9.10 and the "authenticate" window refuses to show guest as an authenticatable login.  how do i explicitly allow it in say gdmsetup where it says in console "explititly ignoring guest"
[02:31] <scratchme> Voss_, not to get too off-topic, but I'd love to get fiber optic service at this location ;)
[02:31] <vingian> xal2: try the sun jvm :)
[02:31] <dooglus> !info pysdm | Lint
[02:31] <xal2> that's what i installed
[02:31] <jfeole> xal2- can either do a about:plugins in Firefox, or type java -version in a terminal
[02:31] <xal2> sun-java-plugin
[02:31] <xal2> sun-java6-plugin*
[02:31] <Voss_> scratchme, well fiber would increase Ubuntu download speeds...(staying on topic)
[02:32] <MBD123> Will erasing ubuntu 9.04 cause me to lose any files or data?
[02:32] <dksoba88> Flannel, does it still have to download packages?
[02:32] <mnaines> MBD123: Yes, it will.  I recommend backing up all your files to a flash drive or other external drive before installing 9.10
[02:32] <Yos> I need to kill the distribution upgrade; what is the name of the app that I have to use killall ?
[02:32] <scratchme> MBD123, doesn't erasing by definition require the file be "lost" ?
[02:32] <Flannel> dksoba88: the majority of the packages are on the CD itself, it only needs to download what it doesn't have
[02:33] <dksoba88> Flannel, ic...awesome
[02:33] <qaengineer> test
[02:33] <xrandr> hmm. lets see if it fixed itself :)
[02:33] <xal2> vingian, so i installed sun-java6-plugin. isn't that from sun?
[02:33] <dksoba88> Flannel, and thank you.
[02:33] <ChogyDan> xal2: yes, was it the only java you installed?
[02:33] <scratchme> Anyone know if UEC + Windows server images is possible?
[02:33] <xal2> yes
[02:34] <ChogyDan> xal2: try to make sure: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[02:34]  * xrandr is really starting to dislike ubuntu right now. Sound is not working :(
[02:34] <FFEMTcJ> Is anyone having problems trying to get 9.10 to dual boot, with win7 installed first?
[02:34] <xrandr> if i remove gstreamer, what happens?
[02:34] <mnaines> xrandr: I haven't had any problems
[02:34] <xal2> none listed
[02:35] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Does the Windows 7 partition have its own Master Boot Record?
[02:35] <ChogyDan> xrandr: have you tried gsreamer-properties?
[02:35] <rivercityransom> guys karmic is too fast for me. I can't keep up!
[02:35] <dksoba88> lol downloading 9.10-alternate w/torrent completely saturates my 10megabite connection...awesome
[02:35] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: Probably.. I installed it.. Booted, made sure it worked, then did 9.10.. Now it still only boots to Win.. No options at all
[02:36] <scratchme> dksoba88, Oh noes, the RIAA will bust you for sharing free software ;)
[02:36] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Can you boot into Windows with only the Windows 7 drive plugged in?
[02:36] <xrandr> ChogyDan: what would this accomplish for me?
[02:36] <slayton> I love karmic!
[02:36] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: its a laptop..
[02:36] <DanaG> 10 megabyte?
[02:36] <boomernang> Hi, using 9.10. How can I find information on ntfs partitions automatically mounted with the fresh install? There are no entries in /etc/fstab.
[02:37] <DanaG> 80 megabit?
[02:37] <dksoba88> scratchme, lmao... I'm always worried about stuff like that
[02:37] <rivercityransom> I'm on a live CD right now and it's even faster than my 9.04 HD installation.
[02:37] <DanaG> Where do you get such a godawful-fast connection?
[02:37] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: cant dc the second drive
[02:37] <slayton> I am sooo surprised by how fast 9.10 boots up
[02:37] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: So its two partitions on one drive?
[02:37] <slayton> its by far the best improvement I've seen since 7.04
[02:37] <DanaG> s/godawful/ungodly/
[02:37] <FFEMTcJ> Nope.. Two 80g drives
[02:37] <scratchme> DanaG, I have a co-located server that could probably get that if a server was near/in the datacenter.
[02:38] <scratchme> DanaG, but that wouldn't get the image to my house any faster.
[02:38] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Hmm...Well, you're going to run into problems if you cannot disconnect the drives before installing the operating systems
[02:38] <dksoba88> DanaG, 10 megaBIT... it'sa bout 1.25 megabytes/s. At UCSD I get about 12 megaBYTES/s... ridiculus. That was downloading an install file for AutoDesk Inventor...
[02:38] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: is that something new with grub2? never had a problem before
[02:38] <dr3mro> can any one help me fix video aspect ratio on totem after fresh install 9.10
[02:38] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: I always run into problems if I try to install multiple operating systems under a single master boot record
[02:39] <FFEMTcJ> ive never had a problem before.. but i dunno if grub2 has somethin to do with it?
[02:39] <dksoba88> scratchme, lol yea at school I transfer things from our cluster to my PC at 50 MBytes/s... when I need those files at home and I use my internet connection it seems soo slow
[02:40] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Could be.  I do not know much about GRUB and I do not dual-boot, so I cannot help much
[02:40] <ChogyDan> xrandr: did that help?  I lost connection
[02:40] <justin_> Hello - I'm on 9.10 Beta; how do I upgrade to 9.10 release *from the command line*?
[02:40] <xrandr> ChogyDan: nope. dont know what to do in there
[02:40] <ChogyDan> !final | justin_
[02:40] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me fix my boot process? It shows that dmraid is starting and .ck-history takes a long time. http://imagebin.org/69558 How do I stop dmraid from starting as I don't have raid
[02:40] <lstarnes> justin_: if your packages are up to date, then it should be the release version
[02:40] <justin_> ubottu: awesome, thanks
[02:41] <dr3mro> can any one help me fix video aspect ratio on totem after fresh install 9.10
[02:41] <formolQC> hi.  does anybody is able to update, upgrade or install applications with 9.10?  i'm not able to install anything (exept for the nvidia driver, it took 5 minutes to download)
[02:41] <mnaines> formolQC: I have not had any problems with 9.10
[02:41] <ChogyDan> xrandr: under sound > output, try out every setting till you hopefully get working sound
[02:41] <xrandr> ChogyDan: if i remove gstreamer, what happens?
[02:42] <gogeta> formolQC: use a diffrent mirror main ones will be overloaded
[02:42] <Lint> why the hell volume control app is not installed by default?
[02:42] <ChogyDan> xrandr: I think all the programs that use gstreamer for sound won't work?
[02:42] <MBD123> Is just backing up my main folder enough? Should I back up anything else?
[02:42] <Psinetic> I'm on ubuntu 9.04. Why does firefox not show the videos when they are put in fullscreen sometimes? I put it in fullscreen to watch a video, and end up having refresh the page, making me have to rebuff the entire video, which are sometimes movies >_> any ideas on why it's doing this?
[02:42] <xrandr> ChogyDan: autodetect aint doing crap for me
[02:43] <gogeta> formolQC: go to softwhere sources slect other then hit scan for best it will auto slect the fatest mirror
[02:43]  * mnaines can answer 9.10 install questions and 9.10 security questions, so don't hesitate to ask if you're having problems
[02:43] <formolQC> gogeta, i tryed 4 or 5 servers, all occuped
[02:43] <kankan_> how are you people finding karmic?
[02:43] <Silver_Swords> yaaaaaa 9.10 is very nice!  =)
[02:43] <Rothen> go to update manager
[02:43] <Rothen> it should be in there
[02:43] <gogeta> formolQC: use the scan feature
[02:43] <ChogyDan> xrandr: are you using gst-props?
[02:43] <Rothen> I cant install it though, it keeps stopping due to error
[02:43] <xrandr> ChogyDan: gstreamer-properties
[02:43] <gogeta> formolQC: it will ping threw like 400 diffrent servers
[02:44] <MBD123> I'm going to have karmic as soon as I back up these files, but I need to know if I should back up more than my main folder
[02:44] <ChogyDan> xrandr: ya, don't use autodetect, just try each plugin, and then try every device under each plugin
[02:44] <Rothen> I cant install because it says I don't ubuntu-minimal software source or something o_o
[02:45] <MatFarrel> attention please! please more seed if using torrent file to download ubuntu9.10.
[02:45] <xrandr> ok
[02:45] <formolQC> gogeta, I will retry now, maybe it will be okay, i tryed earlier today, to scan the server, and it stoped because it was too slow (but, in another way, it's normal, the server are working, and we don't pay for it....)
[02:45] <MatFarrel> more seed please.
[02:45] <MBD123> I know I'm not supposed to ask multiple times, but this can't wait
[02:45] <gogeta> formolQC: yea if it does that et it alone it only sems frozen
[02:46] <tech-mike> sombody - i need help, need to know the device name of a hard drive just plugged in (internal IDE)
[02:46] <mnaines> MBD123: Take this advice from a security expert:  ALWAYS back up the mission-critical data to an external drive
[02:46] <JediMaster> I've got a bunch of files on an ubuntu server I want to be able to access on my ubuntu desktop, I've already got them shared with samba, but there's no easy way to mount them and get access to them through programs (they don't see the mount points), should I set them up in my /etc/fstab or is there another way?
[02:46] <MBD123> Which files should I back up before switching to 9.10?
[02:46] <timClicks> how do I get new GPG keys for apt-get? just installed karmic via LiveUSB and am trying to update packages...
[02:46] <Rothen> tech-mike we cannot figure that for you, search the bios for boot devices
[02:46] <Mike_lifeguard> MBD123: All of them?
[02:46] <timClicks> receive the following error:
[02:46] <timClicks> "W: GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:47] <mnaines> MBD123: Please see my previous message:  Any mission-critical data or personal data should always be backed up on a regular basis
[02:47] <MBD123> Mnaines: oh, I didn't realize you said something. Sorry
[02:47] <Rothen> never!
[02:47] <Rothen> always take a risk
[02:47] <Rothen> its more fun that way
[02:47] <tech-mike> the bios wont tell me the linux/ubuntu device name "/dev/sda" "/dev/hdb" ???
[02:47] <MBD123> Mnaines: Mission-critical?
[02:47] <timClicks> MBD123: consider creating a separate partition with /home as a mountpoint
[02:47] <Rothen> hmn...
[02:47] <Rothen> I see what you mean
[02:47] <timClicks> MBD123: it makes installs much easier
[02:47] <mnaines> MBD123: Mission critical meaning data that you cannot go without
[02:48] <Rothen> where are you trying to find this out tech mike?
[02:48] <Psinetic> ok i need someone to SERIOUSLY help me now. Yesterday I was on for three hours trying to figure out why i couldn't install anything from command line or use the update manager. Turns out it's because for some reason the system wouldn't let go of the Tor proxy i set systemwide. Even though I went into Network Proxy and disabled it system wide, it STILL looks for it. Ebb found this link: http://burakdd.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/removing-proxy-server-fro
[02:48] <Psinetic> m-ubuntu-9-04/ which tells me to run this command: unset http_proxy. I ran it and it worked. Now the problem has started up again, and that command won't fix it...so what the??? o.0
[02:48] <nixiepixel> Hello, can someone please help me troubleshoot a Grub error 17 on installation of Karmic Koala? Full explanation here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305413
[02:48] <zenlunatic> whats with the MD5SUMS.gpg file?
[02:48] <MBD123> TimClicks: sorry, you lost me
[02:48] <Rothen> are you trying to find it on a cd installation or in ubuntu itself?
[02:48]  * Marfi is back to help
[02:48] <zatlite> hi, if I upgrade from 9.04 with ext3 file system to 9.10, will the file system change to ext4?
[02:48] <tech-mike> i dont know where - lspci doesnt help, the app hardware-info doesnt help....i need it so that with ntfsundelete i can tell it what device to scan
[02:48] <mnaines> Marfi: I can help with 9.10 install issues or 9.10 security issues
[02:48] <Psinetic> marfi, can u help me then? :D
[02:48] <Mike_lifeguard> zatlite: nobody knows what you're talking about. details!
[02:49] <Marfi> mnaines: Nope, I'm back on to help everyone here. =)
[02:49] <Marfi> tech-mike: What seems to be the problem?
[02:49] <timClicks> MBD123: have you used linux for long?
[02:49] <MatFarrel> attention please! please more seed if using torrent file to download ubuntu9.10. thank you.
[02:49] <Rothen> have you tried the gnome partition editor?
[02:49] <mnaines> Marfi: Great.  You can help people with the stuff I can't
[02:49] <trism> zatlite: no it won't, you need to do a clean install if you want ext4
[02:49] <t0rc> Repos being slow for anyone?
[02:49] <Rothen> it may help you in your quest
[02:49] <tech-mike> Marfi:  need to know where to look for device names
[02:49] <MrSchmo> anyone know how i can make my update sources list to 9.10? from the upgrade my source list still hold some things for 9.04 and i dont know whats new or old.
[02:49] <Marfi> tech-mike: It's in system > admin > devices, if I remember right
[02:49] <Psinetic> anyone have any idea why the system proxy simply WON'T go away and keeps blocking me from doing anything?
[02:49] <bigfootbuilt>  torc: I averaged 40kbps
[02:49] <pw> hey guys, how can i recover password from karmic ?
[02:49] <Rothen> I believe that will help you
[02:49] <zatlite> thanks trism
[02:49] <Marfi> tech-mike: Or lspci | grep <device>
[02:49] <MBD123> TimClick: no
[02:49] <Rothen> partition editor :D
[02:50] <ChogyDan> pw: the password for sudo'n?
[02:50] <tech-mike> Marfi:  ive tried lspci - i didnt see the device name though
[02:50] <Marfi> pw: Boot in single mode, and as root, passwd <user>
[02:50] <Marfi> tech-mike: What device are you looking for?
[02:50] <xrandr> ChogyDan: Ok, using custom, and ossink, it says another application is using the device. How can I check to see which app is using it?
[02:50] <Rothen> an IDE harddrive
[02:50] <Psinetic> anyone able to help me? o.0 :(
[02:50] <Mike_lifeguard> MatFarrel: Stop whining, there are plenty of seeds.
[02:50] <tech-mike> a newly added internal hard drive (ide)
[02:50] <Rothen> hes looking for a partition
[02:50] <vinoman> hi
[02:50] <timClicks> MBD123: okay. Basically you can split hard drives into partitions. Among other things, they allow your files to be semi-independent
[02:50] <pw> Marfi: does that work with karmic ?
[02:50] <Marfi> xrandr: ps aux | grep <applications>
[02:50] <zatlite> is the new speedy boot up times dependent on ext4 file system? or can you still get faster boot times when upgrading from ext3 Jaunty?
[02:50] <Rothen> so I said he should look in the gnome partition editor
[02:50] <pw> Marfi: i remember it not working with hardy
[02:51] <ChogyDan> xrandr: don't know.  That's what pulseaudio was supposed to solve
[02:51] <Marfi> pw: Yup, works with most versions of linux, and I don't see them disabling that any time soon
[02:51] <xrandr> lovely
[02:51]  * xrandr uninstalls pulseaudio and reinstalls
[02:51] <timClicks> MBD123: Your /home directory is where all of your personal files live (possibly the 'mission critical' ones)
[02:51] <ChogyDan> xrandr: nothing else works?
[02:51] <mnaines> zatlite: I do not think it is the file system so much as the read/write speeds of the hard drive itself
[02:51] <Marfi> zatlite: ext4 has a lot of new things. 9.10 is also a re-work. I would recommend re-installing instead of updating
[02:51] <xrandr> ChogyDan: nope
[02:51] <Mike_lifeguard> zatlite: best performance comes from ext4 filesystems created from nothing - ext3 upgraded to ext4 is 2nd best
[02:51] <pw> Marfi: i remember having to put in root passwd to run single user mode
[02:51] <pw> Marfi: i remember having to put in root passwd to run single user mode/recovery
[02:51] <MBD123> TimClick: Okay, but I don't think I have enough disk space
[02:51] <Marfi> pw: You shouldn't, not in recovery / single user mode
[02:51] <pw> Marfi: ok i will try. ty
[02:51] <Marfi> pw: Unless they changed it from 9.04 to 9.10
[02:51] <Marfi> pw: pn
[02:51] <mage__> pw: try a blank password?
[02:51] <Marfi> **np
[02:52] <Mike_lifeguard> zatlite: faster boot is a product of both using ext4 (which, even in jaunty, made a big difference) and using upstart (new in karmic)
[02:52] <tech-mike> Marfi:  ??
[02:52] <Psinetic> ANYONE?!??? :(
[02:52] <pw> i installed and somehow the damn pw didn't work :(
[02:52] <timClicks> MBD123: space itself shouldn't be too much of an issue
[02:52] <Rothen> I am having a lot of trouble upgrading from Hardy to Karmic
[02:52] <Ben64> !ask | Psinetic
[02:52] <Marfi> tech-mike: What are you looking for? Sorry, multitasking to help with the load. ^_^
[02:52] <Rothen> I keep on getting this error message
[02:52] <mage__> Psinetic: whats a system proxy
[02:52] <Rothen> After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' can not be found anymore.
[02:52] <Rothen> This indicates a serious error, please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bug report
[02:52] <Mike_lifeguard> Rothen: That's because doing so isn't supported.
[02:52] <Psinetic> Ben64 i've alrady asked the same stupid question four times
[02:52] <mnaines> Rothen: Do not upgrade.  There are too many issues with upgrading.   Yesterday I was on for three hours trying to figure out why i couldn't install anything from command line or use the update manager. Turns out it's because for some reason the system wouldn't let go of the Tor proxy i set systemwide. Even though I went into Network Proxy and disabled it system wide, it STILL looks for it. Ebb found this link: http://burakdd.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/removing-proxy-server-fro
[02:53] <vinoman> adios
[02:53] <FloodBot1> Rothen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <mnaines> MBD123: Considering 9.10 only needs about 5GB, yes
[02:53] <Psinetic> m-ubuntu-9-04/ which tells me to run this command: unset http_proxy. I ran it and it worked. Now the problem has started up again, and that command won't fix it...so what the??? o.0
[02:53] <CopyWriter> anyone got any screenshots
[02:53] <FloodBot1> Psinetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <blm14> anyone had problems with AMD64 and karmic koala?
[02:53] <vinoman> karmic is working fine.
[02:54] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: Stop repeating yourself.
[02:54] <Marfi> tech-mike: Got it. ;_
[02:54] <Rothen> sorry about that, I loved hardy so much that I use it now
[02:54] <blm14> I am upgrading an amd64 system from 9.04 to 9.10 and it's frozen - last line in the /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log is this "2009-10-29 21:31:39,457 WARNING no activity on terminal for 240 seconds (Configuring libpam0g)" and it's been stuck on that for like 2 hours. Any ideas?
[02:54] <Marfi> *;)
[02:54] <mage__> Psinetic: the proxy works via environment
[02:54] <timClicks> MBD123: ahh... the partitioning is really best done if you're working with a clean installation
[02:54] <t0rc> I'm having a hell of a time downloading the end files for freeglut
[02:54] <z3ro3x> I was running the 9.10 Release Candidate days before final release.  How come Update Manager hasn't told me there's a new upgrade available?
[02:54] <Psinetic> Mike_lifeguard, then someone answer the question >_> and Ben wanted to know the questoin, so i told him.  It won't speed up for a good week or 2
[02:55] <Marfi> z3ro3x: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:55] <Psinetic> mage__ i know how the proxy works, what i don't know is why it just won't turn off
[02:55] <ChogyDan> t0rc: try selecting a more local server in Software Sources
[02:55] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: Maybe you didn't notice that folks here are volunteers. Flooding the channel with the same question repeatedly is a guaranteed way to not get help.
[02:55] <mage__> Psinetic: tor proxy is localhost? do "set |grep localhost" in a console and then it'll show PROXY=localhost:923 or something similar, try unset PROXY and then try from that terminal
[02:55] <kankan_> anybody use intel here?
[02:55] <MBD123> Timclicks: thanks for your help, but I just got some 1 on 1 help. Turns out I only needed to back up the home folder. Thanks anyway :)
[02:55] <ubuntunewuser> ive tried unetbootin but it doesnt work with windows 7...! any other app?? to install kubuntu from usb pendrive??
[02:55] <Marfi> z3ro3x: If that doesn't kick it in...update-manager -d from terminal
[02:55] <mage__> kankan_: intel what?
[02:55] <kankan_> mb.
[02:55] <TheFunkbomb> I just upgraded to 9.10 and I have a few issues.   And unetbootin should work
[02:55] <blm14> WARNING no activity on terminal for 240 seconds (Configuring libpam0g) ... Anyone? :(
[02:55] <Mike_lifeguard> kankan_: Maybe it would be best to state your actual problem!
[02:55] <kankan_> graphics
[02:55] <hackmygibson> does anyone know why when you minimize windows in ubuntu 9.10 they dont show up on the bar at the bottom?
[02:55] <kankan_> compiz.desktop effect
[02:55] <KittyKis> hey, just got Karmic, quick questions: how do I enable timestamps and logging in Empathy?
[02:56] <linuxuz3r> is 9.10 stable
[02:56] <kohlrak> Ok guys, i'm not crazy. Random shutdown happened in karmic again.
[02:56] <Mike_lifeguard> hackmygibson: that'll be a bug, I think
[02:56] <Nevertaken9000> is there some sort of a tutorial or something someone can link me to for help with configuring xdaliclock? i'm having a hard time getting it how i want it, and i've seen some brilliant examples of it in use
[02:56] <millo87> hey guys - wrong channel, but the correct one seems dead - latest xubuntu, i'm at the install screen with the "boot options" and "Install Xubuntu" middle of the screen
[02:56] <Marfi> kohlrak: Check your hardware
[02:56] <timClicks> MBD123: am glad to hear you're on your way :)
[02:56] <millo87> where do i go from here?
[02:56] <ubuntunewuser> Marfi: the usb had ntfs file system and it gave me an error should i tried with fat32?
[02:56] <Mike_lifeguard> !xubuntu | millo87
[02:56] <Marfi> Nevertaken9000: man kdaliclock
[02:56] <Psinetic> Mike_lifeguard, well asking the question doesn't seem to get answers, so what do you expect me to do? just sit here and pray and hope that someone actually answers me? i understand what you're saying, i ask you to understand what i'm saying.
[02:56] <ubuntunewuser> !install ubuntu
[02:56] <Marfi> ubuntunewuser: You need to format it to fat32
[02:56] <linuxuz3r>  is 9.10 stable
[02:56] <DanaG> now... how long until the next +1 opens?  =þ
[02:56] <kohlrak> Marfi: we did this already. Hardware's fine. It shut down normally when i plugged it in and use the mouse, as if i went to shut down but i didn't. =p
[02:56] <Marfi> linuxuz3r: Yup
[02:56] <johnboker> back to 9.04 for me
[02:56] <ubuntunewuser> Marfi: thanks! and how can i recover grub2??
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: why are you going back
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> Marfi: ok
[02:57] <formolQC> ubuntunewuser, try http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  it will do everything alone
[02:57] <Marfi> kohlrak: Try to check your BIOS to see if there is anything funky for USB
[02:57] <Psinetic> mage__, it's still not working. i still get the same error
[02:57] <ubuntunewuser> Marfi: should i type, sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda?
[02:57] <johnboker> linuxuz3r 9.10 is having a lot of issues, i cant even boot now
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> did you install grub properly?
[02:57] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: That's because nobody so far knows how to help you. Deal with it. Again: people here are volunteers. Some of us, being human, don't know everything and therefore cannot help you. Unfortunately, all the ones who *do* know everything are bots and thus not terribly helpful.
[02:57] <Marfi> ubuntunewuser: Not sure how they did grub2. IT used to be....yea, that should do it. I would get the grubLive disk, though.
[02:57] <jedivulcan> I'm going to try 9.10 shortly
[02:57] <MatFarrel> attention please! please more seed (don't limit upload speed) if using torrent file to download Ubuntu9.10. It's call community. Thank you.
[02:57] <kohlrak> Marfi: check my bios how? Plus, i've been using ubuntu for a while, didn't start 'till karmic. I'd send a bug report, but i don't know how to reproduce it yet.
[02:57] <jedivulcan> It'll be a "sidegrade" for me
[02:57] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: did you installl grub properly
[02:58] <millo87> hey guys - wrong channel, but the correct one seems dead - latest xubuntu, i'm at the install screen with the "boot options" and "Install Xubuntu" middle of the screen - can someone tell me where to go from here?
[02:58] <johnboker> linuxuz3r i upgraded from 9.04 and after rebooting the screen is completely white, i decided to do a fresh install of 9.10 and the installer has a white screen too
[02:58] <hackmygibson> wait i figured out what it was when im minimizing the window it is being closed instead
[02:58] <Mike_lifeguard> millo87: Ask in #xubuntu please
[02:58] <fxhp> Is this normal during an upgrade?: http://pastebin.com/m4df1763d
[02:58] <Psinetic> Mike_lifeguard, thank you for your help.
[02:58] <Marfi> kohlrak: Could be something with the USB, usually f2 or delete when you boot up. May want to run a mentest, too
[02:58] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: thats odd
[02:58] <millo87> I did ask there mike, but the channel appears dead, no response for over 5 minutes now
[02:58] <johnboker> linuxuz3r grub is fine, the graphics driver has some major issues for me
[02:59] <SnakDoc> am i getting message about repo failing due to traffic ?
[02:59] <seme> is there any way to make apt use a different mirror?
[02:59] <Marfi> millo87: Click the "try xubuntu without modifying the hard drive" and there will be an install script on the desktop
[02:59] <johnboker> linuxuz3r https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/297245
[02:59] <kankan_> the intel graphics issue still persisits.
[02:59] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: oh
[02:59] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: what graphics card
[02:59] <mage__> Psinetic: so the proxy isn't an environment variable?
[02:59] <johnboker> intel i965
[02:59] <IdleOne> kankan_: the intel regretion is gone on my hardware
[02:59] <kohlrak> Marfi: USB? How? What did they add with karmic that could make the USB tell my computer to shut down normally? I'll run the memtest, though.... It's possible, but i find it very unlikely considering it happened the very next day after i installed karmic from jaunty.
[02:59] <kankan_> intel i845
[02:59] <IdleOne> regression*
[02:59] <Psinetic> mage__ it is, and it worked yesterday, but it's like everytime i cut it off it simply comes back on. I have no idea why it's not working now, it fixed it yesterday.
[03:00] <tyoc> people, which program can I use for edit docbook files?
[03:00] <kankan_> IdleOne:how?
[03:00] <hackmygibson> i've only found the one bug for me in 9.10   everything else seems fine
[03:00] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: do you also use compiz? I get crashes with any compiz effect after upgrading :\
[03:00] <linuxuz3r> johnboker: good luck with your problem
[03:00] <johnboker> i was looking forward to the update too, kinda disappointing
[03:00] <Marfi> kohlrak: If memory serves correctly, they switched from HAL to managing hardware to something else, don't remember what it was. That might be a place to start looking. ;)
[03:00] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: But seems more stable otherwise (ie the *system* is stable, even if compiz is broken)
[03:00] <IdleOne> kankan_: I upgraded and 3d effects are working. Mike_lifeguard yes compiz seems to be fine also
[03:00] <Psinetic> mage__ i would get you a pastebin of the error....but it keeps saying it's spam...>_>
[03:00] <fxhp> during upgrade? : http://pastebin.com/m4df1763d
[03:01] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: p.defau.lt is better
[03:01] <kankan_> what intel card do u use?
[03:01] <Marfi> Anyone who updated from 9.04 to 9.10....best way is to ALWAYS do a clean install. Less stuff breaks. This is from many errors on my part. Learn from my mistakes. Thank you. =)
[03:01] <seme> ha haa... I guess I'm  not the only one who is having software download slowness issues, http://mashable.com/2009/10/29/karmic-koala/
[03:01] <kohlrak> Marfi: Oh yeah, i heard about that. That's one of hte things they're looking for bugs the most for, i wish i could reproduce it for y'all, cause i know we're about to see this alot more.
[03:01] <IdleOne> kankan_: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[03:01] <Mike_lifeguard> Marfi: Yeah, it is now KMS (I think that's what it is called... kernel mode setting)
[03:01] <Psinetic> mage__ http://p.defau.lt/?DWNRGBUEoCaoxdD8cXYR2A
[03:01] <xrandr> ChogyDan: odd. i get sound in KOpete, but audio as in music or anything from the net is negative
[03:01] <kohlrak> Marfi: and to hat about updating, then there should be a better process for upgrading...
[03:02] <johnboker> kankan: intel i965 is the one im having issues with
[03:02] <kankan_> you did anything to enable 3d effects?
[03:02] <ChogyDan> xrandr: hmm, maybe it's a gstreamer bug
[03:02] <the_hoser> FINALLY I can watch Jon Stewart with firefox!!! ^_^
[03:02] <kohlrak> marfi: anyway, i'll go do a quick memtest. I'll be back, i doubt it'll find anything but i better do it anyway...
[03:02] <IdleOne> kankan_: go to System, Prefs , Appearance and click the 3d effects
[03:02] <MenZa> Any screen experts who can tell me how to kill a window straight from the window list (C-a ")?
[03:02] <xrandr> ChogyDan: can firefox and amarok/rhythmbox be configured to use something other than gstreamer?
[03:02] <IdleOne> kankan_: also install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:03]  * DanaG wonders if it's possible to get compiz to not speed up the GPU.
[03:03] <Nevertaken9000> this may be a stupid question, but if i try running "xdaliclock -root" nothing happens...how do i get xdaliclock to run without a window? i can get everything else about it to work but i want it to be stationary? what else do i have to do?
[03:03] <DanaG> Right now, compiz reduces battery life a lot.
[03:03] <ChogyDan> no idea
[03:03] <cdm10> DanaG: it doesn't speed up the GPU on mine until I DO something
[03:04] <Xgates> say anyone using VirtualBox for Ubuntu?
[03:04] <Mike_lifeguard> MenZa: What do you mean "the window list"?
[03:04] <FFEMTcJ> Xgates: yes,
[03:04] <ripps> xrandr: amarok can use xine, I think. But I'm pretty sure rhythmbox is stuck with gstreamer
[03:04] <FFEMTcJ> mnaines: I got it working... I had to reinstall grub2 via the livecd
[03:04] <mage__> Psinetic: is that from a console?
[03:04] <Psinetic> mage__ no that's from the update manager
[03:04] <mnaines> FFEMTcJ: Good job.  Sorry I could not help.
[03:04] <hackmygibson> this is reallllly homo, i have to load every program again and again if i have a maximized window infront of it
[03:05] <MenZa> Mike_lifeguard: If you're in screen, try C-a " - this'll give you a list of your active windows.
[03:05] <arunreddy> Hi All, Are there any issues upgrading to 9.10 from Update Manager.? Any one tried , thanks .
[03:05] <Psinetic> mage__ hmmmmm now THAT'S odd. running "sudo apt-get update" in terminal works fine. but it won't work in the update manager.
[03:05] <pelmen> guys, i need to copy some files from home folder using LIVECD, but i cannot acess it, because it says permission denied
[03:05] <Malignus> register t3mp0r4l<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:05] <Xgates> FFEMTcJ: this url ---> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-VirtualBox-USB-Support-111715.shtml says that when you look at the groups you'll find a group entry there called 'vboxusers' but I see none. I know I can just add the name, but I'm wondering does any VB pkg set this up?
[03:05] <IdleOne> arunreddy: just completed upgrade about 1 hour ago. all went fine.
[03:05] <mnaines> arunreddy: Upgrading from 9.04 WILL cause 9.10 to break.  It is best to do a clean install of 9.10
[03:06] <Mike_lifeguard> MenZa: cool, never knew about that
[03:06] <jumbers> While trying to sudo apt-get update, I'm getting this error: "A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:06] <MBD123> Installing 9.10!!!
[03:06] <IdleOne> arunreddy: but just because it worked for me does not mean it will for you :/
[03:06] <arunreddy> mnaines : Thanks
[03:06] <spO> the downloads are too slow, do any of you have a server that is located in the usa but is not public?
[03:06] <TheFunkbomb> Wasn't Shiretoko supposed to rebrand to Firefox3.5 with 9.10?
[03:06] <pelmen> anybody ?
[03:06] <spO> LETS make it a torrent file!
[03:07] <Brent> Does anybody have time to help me with a grub problem?
[03:07] <mage__> Psinetic: evironment variables are inherited and when you set it system wide it didn't get passed down to the updater applet
[03:07] <mnaines> TheFunkbomb: Shiretoko was the codename for Firefox 3.5
[03:07] <isola73dsh33p> i can't install 9.10 for Amd64 using alternate CD, what could be the problem?
[03:07] <TheFunkbomb> mnaines, I know that
[03:07] <pelmen> guys, i need to copy some files from home folder using LIVECD, but i cannot acess it, because it says permission denied
[03:07] <Mike_lifeguard> !torrents | spO
[03:07] <FireCrotch> !torrents | spO
[03:07] <Ben64> spO: use the torrent from ubuntu.com
[03:07] <spO> thanks
[03:07] <Marfi> Brent: What seems to be the problem? It's slightly hectic here, as you can tell
[03:07] <TheFunkbomb> mnaines, but mine is still called shiretoko
[03:07] <Psinetic> mage__ how do i pass it down then?
[03:07] <MatFarrel> attention please! please more seed (don't limit upload speed) if using torrent file to download Ubuntu9.10. It's call community. Thank you.
[03:07] <Brent> i can see that
[03:07] <mnaines> TheFunkbomb: To answer your question, firefox 3.5 is default in 9.10
[03:07] <Marfi> Brent: =)
[03:08] <TheFunkbomb> mnaines, mine is still called shiretoko
[03:08] <Mike_lifeguard> MatFarrel: Stop whining, not everyone has infinite bandwidth, and there are plenty of seeds.
[03:08] <calebH> happy release day!
[03:08] <Brent> i installed 9.1 just today on a hard drive by itself, i wanted to hook up an old drive with windows xp on it as a slave and grab a ton of files off of it that i want, but when i do, grub tells me its out of memory and cant load
[03:08] <Xgates> Marfi: slightly hetic, LOL, that's why I made another ubuntu channel so in time there will another place a bit more relaxed
[03:08] <Rabbitbunny> Mike_lifeguard: Don't be a bummer.
[03:08] <anarki2004> how do I determine the drive numbers for "/dev/sda1"? (i.e. hd0,3)
[03:08] <Marfi> Brent: Set the other HDD as master
[03:09] <Brent> the one with winxp on it?
[03:09] <Marfi> Brent: No, the ubuntu one.
[03:09] <CrocoJet> did someone get success with webcam using new ubuntu?
[03:09] <Marfi> Brent: Another idea would be to make the Ubuntu one on it's own IDE cable, then put the other on on the other
[03:09] <Brent> it is, or should be i guess
[03:09] <Xgates> FFEMTcJ: did you check that URL?
[03:09] <ChogyDan> CrocoJet: I have some success
[03:09] <Mike_lifeguard> anarki2004: sda1 is hd0,0 I think
[03:09] <Brent> its jumpered cable select and on the first ide thingy
[03:09] <CrocoJet> I am getting image "down to up"
[03:09] <Marfi> CrocoJet: I did see an application in the install manager for a webcam. Don't know if that would help
[03:10] <anarki2004> Mike_lifeguard: thats sort of what I thought, but wasn't sure
[03:10] <Marfi> Brent: If they are on the same cable, then the ubuntu HDD needs to be master
[03:10] <Rabbitbunny> CrocoJet: THere's normally a setting to flip the image vertically.
[03:10] <CrocoJet> what application ?
[03:10] <Ben64> MatFarrel: ok, now I'm seeding the torrent with 100mbit, stop complaining
[03:10] <Marfi> Brent: Another way is to plug the one up as master, don't plug in the windows, boot into ubuntu, then plug the other in
[03:10] <hans_> Hey people! Back after a restart. Run into the same annoying thing as after all boots. Data partition is not mounted by default. Is there a way to automount a partition? That would be really nice....
[03:10] <MatFarrel> Mike_lifeguard: I mean if people have fast bandwidth, please more upload and don't limited.
[03:10] <Brent> so i just need to jumper it master and i should be all set?
[03:10] <hackmygibson> ANYone else having a problem with windows closing when you minimize,   just curious
[03:10] <Marfi> Brent: Yup
[03:10] <Mike_lifeguard> anarki2004: You can probably tell what's what with ... somecommandiforget in grub
[03:10] <Ben64> MatFarrel: theres only 2 leechers anyway, doesn't matter, shush
[03:10] <kankan_> how to show my home folder and trash icon on desktop?
[03:11] <Brent> i can plug the xp HDD in say
[03:11] <Brent> right now?
[03:11] <anarki2004> Mike_lifeguard: still haven't really figured out grub
[03:11] <Asad2005> exit
[03:11] <kohlrak> so much for the memtest
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> MatFarrel: Yeah, I heard you, now stop whining, it is really annoying and totally useless.
[03:11] <Marfi> Brent: Yup. Don't hit anything on the mobo though
[03:11] <nixiepixel> So I guess I should try re-installing grub from a live cd?
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> anarki2004: nobody has
[03:11] <anarki2004> Mike_lifeguard: but I am trying to use it right now....
[03:11] <Ben64> upload rate:    4.9 kB/s \\\ <--- good thing I jumped on the torrent
[03:11] <Brent> what will happen? ubuntu will just all of a sudden see the drive and allow me to browse it?
[03:11] <Andysalina5> hello
[03:11] <Xcell> kankan_-  go to configuration editor and under apps/nautilus
[03:11] <MatFarrel> Ben64: don't close your torrent until 2 week.
[03:12] <Ben64> don't tell me when to close my torrent
[03:12] <Rabbitbunny> Mike_lifeguard: You need to go read the freenode policies. Telling him to stop 'whining' is not in the spirit of freenode or Ubuntu.
[03:12] <kohlrak> marfi, know specifically where i might look on launchpad for my error incase it's already reported?
[03:12] <Ben64> Rabbitbunny: it is in the spirit of the Governator
[03:12] <kankan_> where is configuration editor?
[03:12] <Marfi> kohlrak: I would start by looking for usb errors with KMS
[03:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Rabbitbunny: clearly you don't know what you're talking about :)
[03:12] <al1as> hello guys
[03:12] <ebtek220> why are you suppose to update jaunty before you get karmic? what are the ramifications if i skip this step
[03:12] <kohlrak> marfi: thanks
[03:12] <Marfi> Yarrrrr AliceMargatroid
[03:12] <Marfi> ** al1as
[03:12] <Xcell> kankan_-  go to sys/prefs/main menu  and check it
[03:13] <Mike_lifeguard> ebtek220: upgrading between versions is complicated enough already, I really recommend you don't test your luck
[03:13] <doc_brown> if you dual boot two different ubuntu releases, can you transfer files from one release to the other?
[03:13] <CrocoJet> strange ... at 9.04 was working pretty nice .. now I have bad quality image (webcam)
[03:13] <TheFunkbomb> anyone know how I can rebrand shiretoko into firefox 3.5 in 9.10?
[03:13] <Mike_lifeguard> doc_brown: Yes.
[03:13] <Andysalina5> hey
[03:13] <CrocoJet> I have samsung Pleomax
[03:13] <Andysalina5> should i upgrade to 9.10?
[03:13] <al1as> I got "Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted?". How can i fix it?
[03:13] <Xcell> kank IT WILL BE UNDER SYSTEM TOOLS
[03:13] <Andysalina5> im using 9.4
[03:13] <Marfi> Andysalina5: I recommend doing a clean install
[03:13] <Andysalina5> well
[03:13] <nixiepixel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBBl6HvdpM Re-installing Grub 2 would be similar to this, right?
[03:13] <snayth> Best place for Karmic i386 CDR download is ? ?
[03:13] <sweetandy> doc_brown: Some people have entirely separate Linux distros on the same computer with a shared /home partition, so yes
[03:13] <Andysalina5> i have important documents Marfi
[03:13] <Mike_lifeguard> !torrents | snayth
[03:13] <Xcell> check
[03:14] <Xgates> anyone running 9.10 on VirtualBox?
[03:14] <Andysalina5> VM ware fusion
[03:14] <Andysalina5> is what i use
[03:14] <xenogia> a quick question, how do i get into my boot menu like 9.04?
[03:14] <al1as> I got "Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted?". How can i fix it?
[03:14] <z3ro3x> Marfi: I tried all the commands you mentioned.  And all of them tell me every thing is up to date.  I would have thought that there would be some updates to download once the final release comes out to update the release candidate I've been running.
[03:14] <Xgates> I know VMware :)
[03:14] <Andysalina5> yeah
[03:14] <Andysalina5> its awesome
[03:15] <Andysalina5> i use mac
[03:15] <Andysalina5> but
[03:15] <endersyrinx> Starting to use 9.10. How can I change the button configuration on a Wacom stylus?
[03:15] <Rabbitbunny> Andysalina5: The enter key is not puncuation.
[03:15] <Andysalina5> ubuntu/xubuntu is much better
[03:15] <Xgates> well for free VirtualBox is pretty awesome :)
[03:15] <Deathvalley122> hello can anyone help to fix a sr0?
[03:15] <doc_brown> sweetandy, i have 8.10 and 8.04, and i want to install 9.10.  but there are 110 GB of files i need, and my external died.  So i dont want to lose all of that
[03:15] <Deathvalley122> me**
[03:15] <Marfi> z3ro3x: You may be up-to-date. They normally kick out updates a day earlier for RC'ers, so they can get ahead of the traffic
[03:15] <doc_brown> sweetandy, install 9.10 as in the one and only OS
[03:15] <Andysalina5> Rabbitbunny.  I dont like typing so many words quickly because i am bound to make mistakes
[03:15] <Andysalina5> that could be embarrassing
[03:15] <Marfi> Andysalina5: Not to mention, it's free
[03:16] <Andysalina5> hmm
[03:16] <Andysalina5> well the thing is
[03:16] <xenogia> anyone
[03:16] <TheCheeze> i just upgraded to karmic from jaunty and am having a linking problem. pidgin and x-chat will not open firefox. has anyone else had this problem?
[03:16] <Marfi> Andysalina5: And cheaper. And stable.
[03:16] <sweetandy> doc_brown: you probably have everything on one partition, mounted as /. If that's the case, then you'll have to find a way to transfer the files. Keeping a separate /home partition is useful for just this reason.
[03:16] <spO> if I install ubuntu 9.10 will it recognize and write over my old ubuntu partition, or do i have to install windows 7 again first?
[03:16] <Andysalina5> my internet maxes out at about 300 kb/s
[03:16] <Andysalina5> so i have to order a copy of the disk
[03:16] <Marfi> TheCheeze: Try alt + f2, then type "firefox". see if that works
[03:16] <sweetandy> doc_brown: that way, you can keep all your files without touching them between installation of different OSes.
[03:16] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I was hoping for some patches considering the issues I've been having with Rhythmbox and Miro.
[03:16] <trism> TheCheeze: check out System/Preferences/Preferred Applications and see what is listed
[03:17] <mnaines> Andysalina5: That happens to me and I'm on a 15 down 1.5 up connection.  That's normal because of all the traffic on the mirrors right now.
[03:17] <spO> and, 300 kb/s is fast enough and you could download it overnigth
[03:17] <sweetandy> doc_brown: That's a LOT of files.
[03:17] <bastidrazor> spO: you can tell it to overwrite the 9.04 install.
[03:17] <Mike_lifeguard> Andysalina5: Please try to keep your sentences on one line. You can even put more than one sentence on a single line. This helps everyone in the channel. As well, you should address who you're talking to, otherwise they could easily miss it.
[03:17] <boomernang> Hi. Fresh install of 9.10 and my ntfs partitions were mounted fine! installed my mp3 stuff and flash when i opened konqueror then restarted my system. Now ubuntu hasnt mounted by ntfs partitions? How can this happen? Only way to get them back is to edit /etc/fstab?
[03:17] <TheCheeze> trism, says firefox
[03:17] <Psinetic> since i can't use the update manager, does anyone know of a way to upgrade to karmic via command line?
[03:17] <fool_> the repos are dead
[03:17] <doc_brown> sweetandy, when i realized my external was dying, i quickly backed up to my laptop 250 gb
[03:17] <Marfi> boomernang: places > click on your HDD from there
[03:17] <fool_> :/
[03:17] <Andysalina5> I dont have a computer that i can use to download all night.  My dad thinks all torrents are viruses due to a bad experience with windows
[03:17] <Marfi> boomernang: Or edit your /etc/fstab
[03:17] <TheCheeze> Marfi, i can launch firefox from cmd and the launchers
[03:18] <kankan_> how to show my home folder and trash icon on desktop?
[03:18] <Mike_lifeguard> Psinetic: do-release-upgrade ?
[03:18] <Deathvalley122> can someone help me with a sr0 problem?
[03:18] <TheCheeze> Marfi, alt+f2 firefox launches it as well
[03:18] <Marfi> TheCheeze: But you can't launch from the other programs...? Should you be able to? *confused look*
[03:18] <thansen_> what's the 'correct' way to set my default cpu governer? it's performance right now but I want ondemand?
[03:18] <hackmygibson> dude it wasnt a bug  the windows list got deleted   thanks
[03:18] <sweetandy> doc_brown: if you have all of your files backed up, after the fresh install, you can mount the laptop in question as a network drive, probably via SSH if it's also linux.
[03:18] <Marfi> z3ro3x: Patches for what? Too many names. =)
[03:18] <al1as> any msi wind users here?
[03:18] <doc_brown> Andysalina5, ALL torrents ARE viruses.  especially linux torrents
[03:18] <Deathvalley122> Oct 29 20:18:32 deathvalley122-desktop kernel: [ 2703.471272] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
[03:18] <TheCheeze> yes, i should be able to lol. i was using 3.5.3 in jaunty with no problems, so i know it shouldnt be a browser upgrade issue
[03:18] <Andysalina5> lol i know but my dad isnt very technology educated
[03:19] <Andysalina5> so he uses macosx cause its super easy
[03:19] <trism> TheCheeze: maybe try setting preferred applications to custom and using firefox %s
[03:19] <RPG_Master> If I want to replace an apps Icon, where should I put my icon I made?
[03:19] <kankan_> how to show my home folder and trash icon on desktop?
[03:19] <Marfi> RPG_Master: Anywhere. It defaults to /usr/share/Icons though
[03:19] <Marfi> kankan_: sudo apt-get install gtweakui , go to system > prefferences > gtweakui-nautalus
[03:19] <Marfi> kankan_: And it will be there
[03:20] <RPG_Master> Marfi: But what do I name the file, so that it will replace the default icon everywhere?
[03:20] <Deathvalley122> anybody?
[03:20] <doc_brown> sweetandy, can i create a partition to store the files, and install karmic on a separate partition?
[03:20] <TheCheeze> trism- is currently firefox -new-tab "%s"
[03:20] <Marfi> RPG_Master: You should be able to click the launcher in the menu and edit it from there, and that should change it everywhere. You may need to go into appearence, though
[03:20] <cn> I have a new install of Desktop 9.10 and there is a problem with my package manager the message is "E: Type 'Reading' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <cn> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:20] <cn> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[03:20] <cn> E: _cache->open() failed, please report."
[03:20] <spO> are the rumors true that Microsoft intends on buying Ubuntu?
[03:20] <FloodBot1> cn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:20] <calebH> RPG_Master: you should probably save it some place in your home directory, and replace the current with a symlink to the new one
[03:20] <Andysalina5> So i want to buy an older P4 computer with about 2 gigs of ddr2 ram.  Its single core clocked at 3.4ghz.  Should i install ubu 9.10 or should i use xubuntu instead?
[03:21] <docgnome> So i got the nvidia-glx-96 driver working, but it crashes X
[03:21] <docgnome> this is what lspci reports the card as 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NVCrush11 [GeForce2 MX Integrated Graphics] (rev b1)
[03:21] <Marfi> cn: Did you edit your sources.list file?
[03:21] <calebH> RPG_Master: I do this for the pgadmin3 icon (UGLY)
[03:21] <ionstorm66> hello
[03:21] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, I run Ubuntu on a Celeron 630mHz and 512mb de RAM. I think you should try Ubuntu.
[03:21] <Marfi> Yar ionstorm66
[03:21] <Bhavesh2177> Hey is anybody know how to restrict  Control + mouse wheel up/down ?
[03:21] <DanaG> watch out when buying old stuff... make sure you don't pay more than you should.
[03:21] <ionstorm66> i did a fresh install of 9.10 on my lappy
[03:21] <Andysalina5> KurtKraut:  is it fast?
[03:21] <Marfi> KurtKraut: I feel sorry for you. /me hugs his celeron
[03:22] <ionstorm66> and my touch pad quit working
[03:22] <Marfi> Andysalina5: Nope. very slow
[03:22] <kankan_> Marfi:thanks a lot
[03:22]  * Andysalina5 kisses celeron
[03:22] <DanaG> Especially if you can get an equivalent new-ish-ish system for approximately similar price.
[03:22] <sweetandy> doc_brown: If the files are already on one partition, you'd need twice as much space as the files take up in order to create an extra partition that would not be touched in the reinstall. If you have the files backed up, check out Parted Magic LiveCD, but do some research to find out what you're doing.
[03:22] <Marfi> kankan_: Np. =)
[03:22] <RPG_Master> calebH: Yeah, I am making a replacement icon for gmountiso (BLEH!)
[03:22] <Andysalina5> im getting the computer for approx 99$
[03:22] <Andysalina5> its a steal
[03:22] <sweetandy> doc_brown: You may need to just do a wipe, but set it up right this time.
[03:22] <tyoc> an XML editor that support docbook?
[03:22] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, no, but it is not slow either. I can use OpenOffice perfectly. Only intensive flash websites are noticeably slow.
[03:22] <Bhavesh2177> any help reguarding  Control + mouse wheel up/down
[03:22] <Marfi> tyoc: I would say to try gedit or emacs
[03:22] <doc_brown> Great Scott!!
[03:23] <tyoc> mmm, ok
[03:23] <Andysalina5> ic KurtKraut.  Why dont you try xubuntu?
[03:23] <cn> I have a new install of 9.10, package manager is broken with the following message:
[03:23] <cn> E: Type 'Reading' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:23] <cn> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:23] <cn> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[03:23] <cn> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[03:23] <FloodBot1> cn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:23] <calebH> RPG_Master: if you want a suggestion, what I do is make a .icons directory in my home folder for all the various icons I like to use for specific purposes
[03:23] <ionstorm66> xorg on 9.1 stays at 90% cpu all the time
[03:23] <Marfi> cn: I already replied to that, and you never answered. Did you edit your sources.list?
[03:23] <cn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/304743/plain/
[03:23] <RPG_Master> calebH: Thanks for the suggestion :)
[03:23] <z3ro3x> I lost my connection, so I don't know if my last message made it, so sorry if this is a repeat message.  Marfi, In Rhythmbox music will be playing and randomly stops.  The program becomes non-responsive and I end up having to kill it.
[03:24] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, because Xubuntu wouldn't interfere in the worst performance scenario: intensive flash websites.
[03:24] <Marfi> z3ro3x: Did you update?
[03:24] <Deathvalley122> can anyone help me?
[03:24] <Andysalina5> I understand KurtKraut
[03:24] <Marfi> z3ro3x: From 9.04?
[03:24] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I most have a day or so ago.
[03:24] <Andysalina5> How much for your box KurtKraut?
[03:24] <RPG_Master> now where would the individual icons be located?
[03:24] <cn> I have a problem with 9.10, just installed it and after loading a few programs I got this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/304743/plain/
[03:24] <Marfi> z3ro3x: I would say to do a clean install and see if that gets it
[03:24] <Marfi> cn: Stop spamming your question. Did you or did you not edit your sources.list file?
[03:24] <daleharvey> anyone know how to set the dark theme on the new byobu (which was screen-profiles before)?
[03:24] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I ran a clean install with a burned 9.10 RC 64 bit disc.
[03:25] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, how much I paid for it? 500 USD (in Brazil). It is an Eee PC.
[03:25] <Andysalina5> wow
[03:25] <Marfi> z3ro3x: Did you install the restricted drivers for the mp3's and whatnot?
[03:25] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I was running the RC about a day or two after it came out.
[03:25] <Andysalina5> thats a lot of cash for a celeron.  How much do you want for it?
[03:25] <cn> Marfi, I was having a problem with the paste didn't mean to spam
[03:25] <docgnome> well... this sucks
[03:25] <docgnome> turns out my problem is a known bug
[03:25] <LinuX2half> how long does it take to upgrade Ubuntu?
[03:25] <trism> daleharvey: byobu-select-profile, took me a bit to find it after I upgraded too
[03:26] <cn> marfi I did edit it
[03:26] <anarki2004> I am getting the error "device not found" while trying to dual boot winxp with ubuntu karmic. I am currently booted from a live cd. I ran gparted and identified that the drive I want is /dev/sda/5. Inside of GRUB i used the "root" command and got Error 21: Selected disk does not exist. Anybody know whats going on?
[03:26] <KurtKraut> Andysalina5, eletronics are expensive in latin America, mainly in Brazil.
[03:26] <Marfi> cn: It's okay. But did you edit that file? If so, it loosk like you may have saved it wrong. I would nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list, and look around that line and see if you foobared it
[03:26] <Roasted> Question - After installing Karmic, my 2 backup drives are not mount-able. I have no idea why. sudo blkid says nvidia-raid-member. I NEED the data on these disks. I had two for backups, and both are yielding this. I just... I need the data on them. Period. D one. Over. What did Karmic do?
[03:26] <Andysalina5> Yeah KurtKraut.  I could get the same thing here for under 200$
[03:26] <Marfi> Roasted: apt-cache search raid, and there should be a raidutils to install
[03:26] <trism> daleharvey: you may need to install byobu-extras...not sure
[03:27] <Roasted> marfi - why? what happened? I never set them up as raid - wtf is karmic doing?
[03:27] <Marfi> Roasted: You just said it was in an nvidia-raid
[03:27] <daleharvey> I just found stuff to chuck in screenrc which copies it, cheers
[03:27] <z3ro3x> Marfi, Yes, as I always to.  I listen to a lot of music and watch tv shows and DVDs.  Rhythmbox, Miro and Totem play every thing at the first.  The issue I have is Rhythmbox and Miro will just randomly stop playing and the programs become none-responsive.  Totem seems to be the only one that doesn't do it.
[03:27] <Roasted> marfi - blkid says that. But I didnt do it. I never set these up as raid. Ever. But karmic sees them like that and I have no idea why.
[03:27] <spO> the notebook remix version does not have a amd64 version , only a 32 bit version?
[03:27] <mrc> whats the best prog to remote to vnc/windows from ubuntu?
[03:27] <mikeru> I'm having problems with my USB CD/DVD burner
[03:27] <Marfi> z3ro3x: It could be trying to access a file it cannot see. I would see if there is a bug report for it
[03:28] <z3ro3x> Marfi, Right now I'm using Totem to play my mp3's.
[03:28] <Marfi> Roasted: Try to mount them as the individual disk
[03:28] <Marfi> z3ro3x: But the random crashes?
[03:28] <Andysalina5> well, i came here to ask for someones opinion about upgrading to 9.10.  should i do it?
[03:28] <daleharvey> ok, last question, can I set my terminal to always open as byobu ?
[03:28] <matman1> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! << could this be cause i can't do apt-get update ?
[03:28] <Roasted> marfi - I have. No dice.
[03:28] <Roasted> marfi - sudo fdisk -l says /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 exist. Yet when I try to mount, it says the device doesn't exist.
[03:28] <LiteHedded> i turned on a blur effect with compiz and now my desktop is borked
[03:29] <LiteHedded> how can i revert back that setting?
[03:29] <mikeru> when I try burning an ISO, brasero stays at "Starting to record", and thinks the CD only has 12MB free
[03:29] <Marfi> Roasted: ls /dev/sdc*. What do you see?
[03:29] <k> does anyone know what USE vim-with-x flag is? how to set it?
[03:29] <CorE_> I was doing an upgrade from 9.04 -> 9.10 but the system overheated and shut off in the middle of the upgrade and now things are borked... after doing a chroot from the latest livecd, what can i do to try and fix the system
[03:29]  * mikeru wonders why doesn't it work...
[03:29] <Marfi> Roasted: And is it the only drives? It may be /dev/sda, too
[03:29] <lstarnes> KurtKraut: where do you see that?
[03:29] <Roasted> marfi - below with yellow text, highlighted in black, it just says /dev/sdc
[03:29] <TheCheeze> trism, any other ideas? :(
[03:29] <lstarnes> KurtKraut: sorry, wrong user
[03:29] <kevin___> does anyone know what USE vim-with-x flag is? how to set it?
[03:29] <lstarnes> k: where do you see that?
[03:29] <Marfi> Roasted: Try /dev/sd*
[03:30] <Marfi> Roasted: ls /dev/sd*
[03:30] <Roasted> marfi - Im sorry - what? /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 are my two 250gb backup drives.
[03:30] <lstarnes> kevin___: is that for gentoo?
[03:30] <matman1> k: are you thinking of gvim ?
[03:30] <Marfi> Roasted: Do you have any other drives, or are they your only ones?
[03:30] <axisys> my core 2 duo with ext3 running 32 bit jaunty took 17 secs to boot.. now same laptop with ext4 and 64 bit karmic take 1 min 6 secs.. is that normal?
[03:30] <kevin___> lstarnes, i see that when attempting to copy from vim in console to os clipboard
[03:30] <LiteHedded> how can i shut off compiz and reset the settings?
[03:30] <almoxarife> !vim
[03:30] <lstarnes> kevin___: you can likely ignore that
[03:30] <Roasted> marfi - I have 4 drives. 1 with vista/Ubuntu, one taht is 500gb, (dev sdb1) and sdc1 and sdd1 which are 250gb drives.
[03:30] <kevin___> matman1, no, vim -- im trying to copy to console using vim
[03:30] <Decessus> ugh. is there an official torrent for karmic?
[03:31] <Marfi> Roasted: Pull one of the 250's out, and boot like that. It won't see them as a raid then
[03:31] <kevin___> lstarnes, do you happen to know how to copy to clipboard using vim while in console?
[03:31] <z3ro3x> Marfi, The programs aren't technically crashing.  They just stop playing music after a while in spite of the fact if I restart Rhythmbox and start playing on the mp3 it froze on it plays fine for a while then locks up again after a minute or two.  The locks ups don't happen the moment I start playing music, they happen after a minute or two after hitting the play button.
[03:31] <Marfi> Roasted: What it may be doing is see that your motherboard supports raid.
[03:31] <d9500> LiteHedded: are you able to get to the gui (gnome/kde, etc) desktop at all? or does logging in drop your straight to terminal?
[03:31] <lstarnes> kevin___: you should be able to copy from it like any other terminal window
[03:31] <seme> christ.. is software center working for anyone... I've tried about 100 installs and nothing works
[03:31] <_atomic> sup?
[03:31] <LiteHedded> no it's black
[03:31] <Marfi> z3ro3x: I've also had it happen to me from a mal-formed ID3 tag
[03:31] <Roasted> marfi - funny you mention that, I thought I remember reading reviews on newegg from people being bummed that my mobo did NOT support it. But who knows.
[03:31] <LiteHedded> I'm in a terminal
[03:31] <lstarnes> kevin___: you may need the vim-full package
[03:31] <kevin___> lstarnes, "should" being the operative word
[03:31] <Roasted> marfi - thanks for your time brosef. I'm gona pull a 250 and see how it looks when I boot up after.
[03:32] <isola73dsh33p> hello guys, i've downloaded the alternate-ubuntu-amd64 iso from 9.10. But its seems couldn't work, telling me it's not the right architecture. But i'm using amd turion X2 64. What could be the cause of the problem and how to solve this?
[03:32] <lstarnes> kevin___: that works for me
[03:32] <z3ro3x> Marfi, mal-formed ID3 tag?
[03:32] <kevin___> lstarnes, hmmm let me get that
[03:32] <brocgiddens> #ubuntu-release-party
[03:32] <BlacKnight> I'm looking for a video encoder All-in-1, easy to use.... i need to reduce the size of some mp4 videos, anyone knows one please?
[03:32] <almoxarife> I use VLC for music and vid, no issues, never crashes
[03:32] <dr3mro> please help me fix my fn f5 f6 ubuntu 9,10 i cant change my volume
[03:32] <brocgiddens> how long before 9.10 hits repos? anyone know?
[03:32] <disappearedng> Hey is there a brightness key for desktop?
[03:32] <Marfi> z3ro3x: If you got it from another country, in my case...anime music, a japanese character in rythmbox could not work
[03:32] <LiteHedded> d9500: any ideas??
[03:32] <lstarnes> brocgiddens: it's already hit the repos
[03:32] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I used the Picard software from the music brainz site to do my tags.
[03:32] <kevin___> lstarnes, hopefully it won't overwrite my .vimrc :-/ ...didn't think about that before downloading ..but we'll c
[03:33] <lstarnes> brocgiddens: but the servers are heavily loaded
[03:33] <lstarnes> kevin___: it won't
[03:33] <_Ubantu_Dude_> Man stay out of #ubuntu-release-party
[03:33] <dr3mro> plz help me to fix aspect ratio of videos that was not here in jaunty
[03:33] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: Run --> md5sum ubuntu-silly-amd.iso
[03:33] <brocgiddens> lstarnes: thanks
[03:33] <matman1_> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! << could this be cause i can't do apt-get update ?
[03:33] <lstarnes> kevin___: to be safe, back it up first
[03:33] <Marfi> z3ro3x: Have any anime or foreign music?
[03:33] <_Ubantu_Dude_> hellow is on a real power trip in there
[03:33] <_Ubantu_Dude_> He gets all mad when I say Ubantu and Loonix
[03:33] <RenatoSilva> Just upgraded to Karmic. Can't remove en_GB in FF! Why? How?
[03:33] <d9500> LiteHedded: ok, so if it drops you straight into terminal, then removing compiz using aptitude might work.
[03:33] <lstarnes> Decessus: see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[03:34] <Lint> wow this junk came out yesterday and it already has 13 MB of updates, great!
[03:34] <_Ubantu_Dude_> O hey Hellow is in this channel
[03:34] <LiteHedded> d9500: would i need to remove the configuration as well?
[03:34] <z3ro3x> Marfi, I think I might.  I live in the states and I have some European music.  But this music was playing fine in 9.04.  What would have changed to mess it up now?
[03:34] <RenatoSilva> Just upgraded to Karmic. Can't remove en_GB in FF! Why? How?
[03:34] <_Ubantu_Dude_> Hellow, I am saying Loonix again
[03:34] <CorE_> ive tried doing dpkg --configure -a --abort-after=999999
[03:34] <CorE_> but i get a list of many many packages with dependancy problems
[03:34] <calebH> Decessus: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-i386.iso.torrent
[03:34] <calebH> Decessus: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[03:34] <calebH> Decepticon: ^ the second one has the list of other "official" torrents
[03:34] <trism> TheCheeze: did you try it with just firefox %s? someone else was having problems with rhythmbox where %s wouldn't get substituted unless it had whitespace around it
[03:34] <kevin___> lstarnes, is the vimrc on ubutnu typically stored  in /etc/vim or are there other locations? is there a master and user version of this file?
[03:34] <FloodBot1> calebH: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <calebH> er, Decessus... ^
[03:34] <_Ubantu_Dude_> O NOES
[03:34] <IdleOne> !ot | _Ubantu_Dude_
[03:34] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, done, but nothing appear. Btw, i'm new to ubuntu
[03:34] <brocgiddens> I have beta and have downloaded live cd iso...there anyway to update from there as opposed to having to do clean install?
[03:34] <RenatoSilva> how to remove an user from the login list?
[03:34] <Decessus> calebH, got it, ty
[03:34] <d9500> LiteHedded: you would need to do a full purge to get rid of the config files, I would think, if a particular plugin's configuration screwed up your desktop.
[03:35] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: without removing the user, you mean?
[03:35] <lstarnes> kevin___: ~/.vimrc for users, /usr/share/vim/vimrc for everyone
[03:35] <leaf-sheep> !md5sum | isola73dsh33p
[03:35] <tmm87> because its u(soft b)oontoo not ubahntu
[03:35] <leaf-sheep> isola73dsh33p: This is great way to find out if you actually downloaded a right ISO. :)
[03:35] <Hellow> Wtf?
[03:35] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: do you have another language installed in firefox?
[03:35] <TheCheeze> trism, tried that noo... no good
[03:35] <cdm10> tmm87: what's a soft b?
[03:35] <Hellow> Why did _Ubantu_Dude_ follow me here?
[03:35] <_Ubantu_Dude_> HI HELLOW
[03:35] <lstarnes> !ot > _Ubantu_Dude_
[03:35] <mikeru> @IdleOne: I doubt he/she cares. he's trolling in #ubuntu-release-party
[03:35] <dr3mro> does any one have issues with video aspect ratio in karmic and was able to fix it
[03:35] <isola73dsh33p> leaf-sheep, ok, thanks :)
[03:35] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: yes, en_US, pt_BR and pt_PT, trying to remove this last too
[03:35] <IdleOne> Hellow: he is trolling. ask an op to handle it please
[03:36] <cdm10> lstarnes: he's been trolling #u-r-p for a few hours
[03:36] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: not en_US, sorry
[03:36] <Hellow> mikeru, I banned him there, he comes and trolls here.
[03:36] <Hellow> !ops
[03:36] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: what happens when you try to remove them in firefox?
[03:36] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: yes, just remove from the login list
[03:36] <_Ubantu_Dude_> I hope its the op the klined my last 30 tor nodes a few months ago
[03:36] <kevin___> lstarnes, hmm..i've been editing /etc/vim/vimrc ..what is that? (it seems to work when i place new cmmds in there)
[03:36] <_Ubantu_Dude_> he was pretty pissy
[03:36] <notjoe7> my clock is all messed up
[03:36] <lstarnes> kevin___: that's another global vimrc
[03:36] <Marfi> from alcohol import Beer
[03:36] <notjoe7>  45 minuets off and i never touched it
[03:36] <Marfi> ops.beer(10000)
[03:36] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: I can't remove
[03:36] <matman1_> i'm not liking ubuntu :|
[03:37] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: remove button is doisabled!
[03:37] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: disabled!
[03:37] <cdm10> notjoe7: have you enabled NTP?
[03:37] <Hellow> Madpilot, <3
[03:37] <beruchtigte> ubuntu is good ,but my old pc is too slow ,so i removed gnome and installed the openbox
[03:37] <lstarnes> RenatoSilva: they might be installed system-wide instead of just for your user
[03:37] <Magnesium> matman1_: Why not?
[03:37] <Marfi> matman1_: Alright...and why not?
[03:37] <almoxarife> RenatoSilva: remove with synaptic
[03:37] <leaf-sheep> !away > ericm
[03:37] <matman1_> Magnesium: i can't even complete apt-get update it hangs :(
[03:37] <Royall> I'm stuck at 1885/2111 MB downloaded
[03:37] <Royall> for the update
[03:37] <RenatoSilva> the pidgin sounds are weird! sort of being played twice at the same time
[03:37] <notjoe7> cdm10, where abouts. i didnt see it in the panel widget
[03:37] <RenatoSilva> almoxarife: what's the package name
[03:37] <LiteHedded> i think i've reset compiz to defaults. how can i stop it and reload it?
[03:37] <digitrev> Is there anyone who can help me with a linking problem?
[03:37] <d9500> LiteHedded: if you're certain that it's compiz causig the problem, do an apt-cache search for "compiz" (no quotes) make a listing of the packages with compiz in the name, and then run sudo aptitude purge [list of packages you wrote down from the search]
[03:38] <mikeru> I dislike empathy so much : O
[03:38] <matman1_> is it cause of the new release and people updating ?
[03:38] <Roasted> marfi - you were right. pulled a 250 and I was able to mount the single 250. I put the 250 back in and its back to thinking its raid. wtf happened between jaunty and karmic? I made ZERO BIOS adjustments and I dont even think my BIOS supports raid. How can I zap it from ubuntu?
[03:38] <mikeru> I prefer pidgin
[03:38] <RenatoSilva> lstarnes: ok
[03:38] <Magnesium> matman1_: That's weird...is your internet working properly?
[03:38] <RenatoSilva> he pidgin sounds are weird! sort of being played twice at the same time
[03:38] <matman1_> Magnesium: yes
[03:38] <cdm10> notjoe7: that's because the panel widget REALLY sucks.  Go to System>Admin>Time and Date
[03:38] <notjoe7> all i can do i manually change the dead
[03:38] <matman1_> working great
[03:38] <almoxarife> RenatoSilva: should be same as you stated
[03:38] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: is this the sound design, or a bug?
[03:38] <notjoe7> cdm10, :-/
[03:38] <LiteHedded> it's definitely compiz. it was when i turned on a blur effect
[03:38] <Marfi> Roasted: Drives were the same, so that's hat it thought
[03:38] <Marfi> Gotta run, later!
[03:38] <bastidrazor> matman1_: actually, yes.
[03:38] <RenatoSilva> almoxarife: en_GB???
[03:38] <leaf-sheep> !away > M|ZzZz
[03:38] <matman1_> bastidrazor: are you sure ?
[03:38] <Shabalabadingda> Hello>
[03:39] <tmm87> cdm10: its an implosive consonant
[03:39] <Roasted> Question - does anybody know how I can prevent Ubuntu from thinking 2 of my identical drives are raid when they ARE NOT raid?
[03:39] <Guest35389> Hey, I just upgraded to the Karmic and can't seem to get my wireless working cos of the broadcom driver fix needed
[03:39] <cdm10> notjoe7: there's also a bug in Time and Date -- once you're in Time and Date and have it set to automatically sync with servers, make sure you add a working server like time-a.nist.gov (the default ones have nothing enabled)
[03:39] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: pidgin issue? seems a bug to me, happened after upgrading to karmic
[03:39] <Shabalabadingda> andy?
[03:39] <bastidrazor> matman1_: yes, it has been this way since the release. i'm having the same issues too.
[03:39] <notjoe7> it was set to sync
[03:39] <kevin___> lstarnes, "+"* seems to work for copying from console to console, but what if i wanted to copy from vim to say, gedit
[03:39] <Magnesium> matman1_: So when you run sudo apt-get update, how do you mean it hangs? Sometimes it takes a while the first time...
[03:39] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: oh. hmm -- try changing the sound method and seeing what happens
[03:39] <matman1_> and i keep getting >> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[03:39] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: method?
[03:39] <golbez_jones> www. apparently my HD has many bad sectors after upgrading to karmic.
[03:39] <almoxarife> RenatoSilva: firefox localization ?????
[03:39] <matman1_> ^ could that be cause i haven't completed apt-get update
[03:39] <Guest35389> but when I try plugging in to my router through etherner, i get connected but cant seem to even ping the gateway
[03:39] <Shabalabadingda> HELLO I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE!!!!!!!
[03:39] <Lint> how can I put logout/shutdown command in Application menu?
[03:40] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: yes, method :) in Preferences, in the Sound tab
[03:40] <matman1_> Magnesium: i get several ign and it is stuck at 97%
[03:40] <scott_ino2> Lint, remove the user switcher from the top right of the panel
[03:40] <matman1_> 98% now
[03:40] <matman1_> lol
[03:40] <scott_ino2> and it'll put it there automatically
[03:40] <snth> Using the alternate CD, I can have fully encrypted LVM disk. How Can I have my boot partition on a USB stick.   Run the "Software Sources" tool, select "Download from: Other" and then press "Select Best Server"
[03:40] <snth> Using the alternate CD, I can have fully encrypted LVM disk. How  Can I have my boot partition on a USB stick. So that the computer  won't boot unless from the USB, then it hands off to my internal  harddrive.
[03:40] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: er, try each one 'till it works :)
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: what is this?
[03:41] <notjoe7> ?
[03:41] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: okay, then stick with that :)
[03:41] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: what is what?
[03:41] <aaditya> what's the benefit of setting up LVM while installing ubuntu server?
[03:41] <matman1_> Magnesium: yeah it is a fresh install
[03:41] <Juzzy> aaditya: lvm is awesome
[03:41] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: why changing it maes it work, and what is exactly the 'method'
[03:41] <lstarnes> aaditya: lvm volumes can be more easily resized and moved around
[03:41] <brocgiddens> can I use an ISO of 9.10 live cd to update as opposed to doing a fresh install?
[03:41] <scott_ino2> aaditya, ability to shift volumes and resize them
[03:41] <cdm10> RenatoSilva: method is the sound system that Pidgin uses -- I guess one is buggy.
[03:41] <snth> aaditya: are you asking about the benefits of LVM? :)
[03:41] <titan_ark> can anyone suggest a solution to my problem?
[03:41] <lstarnes> brocgiddens: you will need the alternate cd for that
[03:41] <cdm10> brocgiddens: nope -- you can with the Alternate cd
[03:41] <brocgiddens> dang it
[03:41] <RenatoSilva> cdm10: ok
[03:41] <IdleOne> brocgiddens: use the Alternate cd to upgrade from cd
[03:41] <lstarnes> brocgiddens: or you could use the update manager
[03:41] <cdm10> lstarnes: damn. you got me.
[03:41] <notjoe7> cdm10, how long do i have to wait until the time automaticly adjusts>
[03:41] <c0l2e> will the old GDM splash / login screen compatible to 9.10 ??
[03:42]  * aaditya feels ignorant
[03:42] <mikechelen> snth, create usb startup disk and edit the fstab to mount the harddisk?
[03:42] <aaditya> !lvm | aaditya
[03:42] <brocgiddens> update manager isn't showing anything
[03:42] <cdm10> notjoe7: erm -- more bugginess -- go back to Manual, then hit the little "refresh" button. THEN switch back to Automatic :)
[03:42] <notjoe7> i dont have those
[03:42] <fluid> is there anything to do to go from beta to release?
[03:42] <leaf-sheep> !final | fluid
[03:42] <fluid> ty
[03:43] <snth> mikechelen: I thought about that. But what do I do while I am installing the distro itself on my harddisk when it asks for installing boot loader?
[03:43] <fluid> i figured as much, but i wanted to be sure. :)
[03:43] <snth> Is there a way I can skip this step?
[03:43] <Magnesium> matman1_: Hmmm...can you put up your /etc/apt/sources.list into a pastebin?
[03:43] <aaditya> ok, what does lvm cost?
[03:43] <trism> TheCheeze: I'm just not sure what the problem could be. If it were me, I might try adding a command for a different browser to see if it is a gnome problem or something with firefox