[15:47] <Jobo> Hi, ever since the latest update this weekend it has failed to detect my primary SIM card
[15:56] <Jobo> ehmm okay now it switched, finds primary and not seconday... oh well


[09:43] <mandel> morning all!
[09:44] <JamesTait> Happy Friday, folks! :-D
[10:34]  * mandel reboots
[11:13] <gatox> good morning!
[11:36] <mandel> gatox, morning!
[11:36] <mandel> gatox, how is everything going?
[11:36] <gatox> mandel, buenas
[11:37] <gatox> mandel, i hurt myself badly :P..... starting to look at the libunity-music branch to do the same for error preview
[11:37] <mandel> gatox, awesome, it is quite easy, you need to add a protocol calss and a view class
[11:37] <mandel> gatox, not terribly hard :)
[11:38] <gatox> mandel, yes..... i added the task in kanban for that...... once that is done..... i think i can declare error preview complete
[11:40] <mandel> gatox, awesome!!!
[11:40] <mandel> gatox, I'm a little block with the static cairo text, once we have that we can move to start proposing merges :)
[11:40] <gatox> mandel, oops :S ...
[11:41] <mandel> gatox, I'm getting help from THE nux guy :)
[11:41] <mandel> so we should get there
[11:41] <gatox> mandel, jejeje
[11:41] <gatox> mandel, i started to go to the gym on tuesday.... today i can't move my arm jejeej
[11:43] <mandel> lol
[12:17] <ralsina_> good morning!
[12:20] <gatox> ralsina_, hi
[12:27] <gatox> ok...... i need to go to the pharmacy...... my arm is killing me!!!!! brb
[12:51] <gatox> back
[12:53] <karni> Morni gs!
[12:53] <karni> lolz
[12:53] <karni> Mornings!
[12:54] <ralsina_> good morning karni!
[12:54] <karni> Morning ralsina_ o/
[13:02] <alecu> hello all!
[13:02] <newman> hello
[13:04] <newman> is there anyone?
[13:04] <davmor2> newman: hello
[13:05] <newman> @davmor how are you?
[13:06] <newman> I need to know, Is my files stored on Ubuntu One is secured from viruses?
[13:06] <mandel> newman, what exactly do you mean?
[13:07] <mandel> newman, would be nice if you give an example of what you are worried about
[13:08] <newman> Thanks mandel, actually I use Ubuntu One in windows also. So if I keep a virus affected file/folder on my ubuntu one folder, will it be uploaded to Ubuntu One server or not?
[13:08] <ralsina_> newman: yes
[13:09] <mandel> nessita, the file sync will sync all file in which ever form they are, so in general yes
[13:09] <newman> Okay. that's good
[13:09] <mandel> newman, ^
[13:09] <mandel> nessita, ignore me
[13:09] <nessita> mandel: done! :-)
[13:09] <mandel> :)
[13:10] <newman> but as far as I know every server user anti virus for the server security.
[13:10] <gatox> nessita, your should answer: always!
[13:10] <gatox> jeje
[13:10] <nessita> juaz
[13:10] <newman> so my curiosity is that why ubuntu one server will not check my files
[13:10] <newman> as it has a anti virus on its server.
[13:11] <newman> don't take it otherwise
[13:11] <newman> I'm a linux user just want to know about this.
[13:14] <mandel> newman, so.. you have files that are not being uploaded?
[13:14] <newman> Please help me anyone to clear my concept if there is any mistake.
[13:15] <newman> no all my files are being uploaded perfectly.
[13:16] <newman> My question is, will ubuntu one server allow a virus affected file on it's server.
[13:16] <mandel> newman, AFAIK yes, it will we do not do any check on your files...
[13:16] <newman> I see. Thanks for your help.
[13:17] <alecu> newman: it's not common at all for viruses to happen on Ubuntu, that's why there's no checking.
[13:18] <alecu> newman: my suggestion is that you always keep an up to date antivirus on your windows machine
[13:18] <newman> Yes. I also think like that.
[13:34] <ralsina_> mandel: http://ralsina.com.ar//galleries/london-paris-2012/2P1000197.JPG
[13:36]  * mandel looks
[13:36] <mandel> hehe
[13:50] <mandel> lunch time
[15:00] <davmor2> achuni my interwebs died
[15:01] <davmor2> beuno could you let achuni know please
[15:14] <beuno> davmor2, will do
[15:14] <davmor2> Ta phone is not fun for circ
[15:15] <davmor2> Irc grrrr
[17:02] <dobey> lunch, bbiab
[18:45] <karni> mvo: +1 on https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/software-center/fix-pygobject-deprecation-warnings/+merge/136712
[20:11] <alecu> ok, let's call this a week. Bye all!
[20:20] <karni> mmcc: +1 on https://code.launchpad.net/~mikemc/ubuntuone-client/find-proxy-tunnel-fix-1083832/+merge/136593
[20:20] <karni> Bye all!
[20:20] <fugue88> o/
[22:34] <dobey> later all


[20:18] <ciampix> hi all. Since I do not want to experiment with important repos...is there something like a bzr sandbox server? TIA
[20:18] <mgrandi> may i ask why you want a sandbox server?
[20:18] <mgrandi> using bzr on a server is literally the exact same as using it locally
[20:23] <mgrandi> slash what do you want to experiment exactly
[20:53] <jelmer> ciampix: ^


[00:16] <OpenSorce> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[00:16] <OpenSorce> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[00:16] <OpenSorce> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[00:16] <ubrl> OpenSorce: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[00:16] <OpenSorce> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[00:16] <ubrl> OpenSorce:. .., 别刷屏，超过6行 大段文字 请贴至paste.ubuntu.com +q 23s
[00:16] <OpenSorce> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[00:16] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[00:30] <siso_> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[00:30] <siso_> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[00:30] <siso_> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[00:30] <ubrl> siso_: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[00:30] <siso_> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[00:30] <ubrl> siso_:. .., 别刷屏，超过6行 大段文字 请贴至paste.ubuntu.com +q 23s
[00:30] <siso_> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[00:30] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[00:59] <Turska-29> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[00:59] <ubrl> Turska-29: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[00:59] <Turska-29> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[00:59] <Turska-29> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[00:59] <Turska-29> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[00:59] <Turska-29> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[00:59] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[02:21] <Thargoid> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[02:21] <ubrl> Thargoid: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[02:21] <Thargoid> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[02:21] <Guest22687> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[02:21] <Guest22687> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[02:21] <Guest22687> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[02:21] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[09:17] <tomek8> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[09:17] <tomek8> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[09:17] <ubrl> tomek8: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[09:18] <tomek8> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[09:18] <tomek8> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[09:18] <ubrl> tomek8:. .., 别刷屏，超过6行 大段文字 请贴至paste.ubuntu.com +q 23s
[09:18] <ubrl> 我的源码: http://github.com/sevk/kk-irc-bot/
[09:18] <tomek8> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[09:18] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[09:43] <exezin22> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[09:43] <ubrl> exezin22: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[09:43] <exezin22> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[09:43] <exezin22> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[09:43] <exezin22> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[09:43] <exezin22> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[09:43] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[10:07] <mobijubo27> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:07] <ubrl> mobijubo27: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[10:07] <mobijubo27> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[10:07] <mobijubo27> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[10:07] <mobijubo27> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[10:07] <mobijubo27> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[10:07] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[11:26] <jor9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[11:26] <ubrl> jor9: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[11:26] <jor9> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[11:26] <jor9> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[11:26] <jor9> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[11:26] <jor9> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[11:26] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[11:54] <sttone> anyone?
[13:42] <ddstreet5> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[13:42] <ddstreet5> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[13:42] <ubrl> ddstreet5: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[13:42] <ddstreet5> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[13:42] <ddstreet5> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[13:42] <ubrl> ddstreet5:. .., 别刷屏，超过6行 大段文字 请贴至paste.ubuntu.com +q 23s
[13:43] <ddstreet5> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[13:43] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Home | Matrix.org
[13:43] <ubrl> You're not a channel operator * need Op.
[18:27] <fxrh0> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[18:27] <ubrl> fxrh0: ⇪ Continued and persistent spambot attack and clarification - freenode
[18:27] <fxrh0> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[18:27] <fxrh0> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[18:27] <fxrh0> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
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[01:56] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:46] <marcoagpinto> Morning!
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> o/
[05:54] <marcoagpinto> ohhhhhhhhh
[05:55] <marcoagpinto> are you here 24/7/365?
[05:55] <marcoagpinto> :p
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> yeah sure :p
[06:25] <ducasse> good morning
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntucore
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> ogra: ^
[13:00] <ogra> 👍
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> ogra: !snap remained the same, as forum was linked on main site
[13:01] <ogra> k
[17:15] <transhumanist> hello what can I do for youi
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> you can start discussions about ubuntu here transhumanist
[17:15] <transhumanist> whats wrong with the official channel?
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> transhumanist: #ubuntu is for support issues
[17:16] <transhumanist> ah its no longer supported you mean
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> transhumanist: this is probably the topic you wanted to know more of? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-14.04-16.04-Ten-Years
[17:17] <transhumanist> ah I was wrong its 10 years ok
[17:17] <transhumanist> my bad
[17:18] <transhumanist> wait 2004 to 20014 it is still not in that support window. what gives?
[17:22] <transhumanist> ah so they are going to support it for ANOTHER 10 years, cool
[17:22] <transhumanist> thanks have a good day!
[17:31] <daftykins> i think that was a misunderstanding


[00:11] <EvanEdwards> Hey all, my 16.04 update stumbled, and I'm trying to repair.  Is the default display manager these days lightdm or sddm?
[00:12] <krytarik> EvanEdwards: SDDM.
[00:15] <EvanEdwards> krytarik: Thanks!  I guessed right.
[02:40] <Tazerb0t> hi all
[02:41] <Tazerb0t> been looking on forums for a possible fix for kubuntu wiping widget settings on boot
[02:41] <Tazerb0t> cant seem to find anything that works for m,e
[02:42] <Tazerb0t> any help would be greatly appreciated
[02:42] <Tazerb0t> its more then likely something really simple
[03:28]  * Zren takes this opportunity to backup ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
[06:07] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with Kubuntu 16.04, installed on a laptop. I tried configuring my wlan but my wlan-key isn't accepted (the laptop doesn't connect to the wlan). In my routers' config-window, the laptop is visible as not connected). Any ideas?
[06:12] <hateball> Mrokii: but you can see the SSID?
[06:13] <hateball> Mrokii: what chipset/driver is it? "lspci -k"
[07:27] <Mrokii> hateball: I found the solution. KWallet had asked me for a password even though I had never set one and my user-password didn't work. This had happened the first time I installed KDE as well, kind of weird. But after resetting the password I could actually enter my wlan-pw successfully.
[07:28] <hateball> Mrokii: :)
[07:33] <Mrokii> Okay... while I'm in the process of configuring plasma... Is there an up-to-date instruction to synchronise KOrganizer with google calendar? I only found quite old info that doesn't seem to help.
[07:34] <Mrokii> *sigh* As usual, as soon as I asked the question I found the solution, despite having looked for it before.
[07:37] <hateball> Mrokii: :D
[07:37] <hateball> Mrokii: That's how therapy works
[07:41] <Mrokii> But I must say I'm quite impressed with all the configuration-possibilities in KDE and built-in functionality, compared to Ubuntu/Unity. Guess I'll be switching to it on my main computer as well in the near future.
[07:59] <hateball> Mrokii: Yea there's very few things you cannot tweak to your liking. Which is overwhelming for some
[08:03] <Mrokii> For some maybe, but I grew more and more frustrated with less and less configuring-options in Ubuntu. As I like to tweak a system as much as possible, Kubuntu seems to suit me far better than Ubuntu/Unity.
[08:04] <hateball> I like to be *able* to if needed
[08:08] <Mrokii> Exactly.
[08:32] <Mrokii> Can somebody explain the difference between the "regular" Kubuntu edition and the "KDE Neon User Edition"? At first glance it looks to me as kind of the same product. Or am I missing something?
[08:49] <leumas> Mrokii: this should help, https://neon.kde.org/faq
[08:49] <leumas> I have been chking it out too
[08:53] <pozytywny> j /#hackerspace-pl
[09:41] <teo_icKs> Hi, I need to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 and I don't find how to make it... Can anyone help me?
[09:43] <ikonia> the upgrade option isn't offered until 16.04.1 is released
[09:43] <ikonia> 16.04 is for new releases, the upgrade path gets offered when it's matured to the first point release
[09:49] <teo_icKs> ahhh, ok. thanks, all we can do is wainting... :-) Bye
[10:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:12] <JonSmith> Good Afternoon
[13:13] <ikonia> hello again Andybrine
[14:19] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i have been gone from kubuntu for a while and i would like to ask you if things are somewhat better in terms of latest plasma with the desktop, whether kmail is still buggy when it comes to IMAP and generally handling emails, things like that. Can anybody share their experience?
[14:24] <andy123> naftilos76: No, things are worse IMO
[14:24] <andy123> I do not use kmail and cannot comment on it
[14:25] <andy123> there are frequent crashes of services in kubuntu 16.04
[14:25] <naftilos76> andy123, Seriously? They' ve saying that cannonical will drop support on kubuntu. Is it really happening?
[14:26] <andy123> afaik they already dropped support
[14:26] <naftilos76> That is sooo sad. So much for open software...
[14:26] <andy123> and some of the core Kubuntu developers left to other projects like KDE neon
[14:27] <andy123> This is just my own expierience, as a k/ubuntu user since 8.04
[14:29] <naftilos76> I was just looking at their page regarding 16.04 and they are still talking about basic stuff like browsing files, images and office files... Seems like kubuntu has been abandoned for good.
[14:30] <andy123> it isnt abandoned, but not in a good shape right now
[14:30] <naftilos76> Yep, i meant exactly that
[14:35] <andy123> Somebody here who knows how to turn off autobrightness?
[14:35] <andy123> already tried all available kde power settings
[14:36] <andy123> I have an intel HD4600 card
[15:02] <elezium> Just curious... is KDE backed by any company?
[15:19] <Smurphy> nope.
[15:19] <Smurphy> Or - Suse did in the past IMHO - if one can call that "Backing"...
[15:22] <elezium> Ok.  I remember Suse was using it.. the I wasn't sure about "backing" it either
[15:40] <abhishek__> hi guys!
[15:40] <abhishek__> Skype audio not working in 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/785338/skype-audio-not-working-in-16-04
[15:42] <abhishek__> Please help, trying since long to fix. :)
[15:47] <viewer|11100> Hey guys trying to install kubuntu on vm workstation getting unable to find medium containing a live file system?
[17:54] <srdjan> Hi. Some pixmaps / images seem to be missing from KMyMoney... any ideas what's happening with it?
[17:55] <srdjan> oh. wow. sorry. wrong channel. wow.
[18:17] <yuriy> пАРни еСТЬ пРО В МУЗЫкЕ СРЕди линУКСа?
[18:18] <ikonia> !ru | yuriy
[22:00] <abhishek> Have been stuck at this since long any solutions folks? http://askubuntu.com/q/785338/417607
[22:01] <abhishek> ^making microphone work in skype


[10:32] <froud> African Greetings
[05:30] <froud> Riddell: hi, kde-systemsettings now replaces kcontrol So far I have updated the outline for the kubuntu quick guide it's still WIP but you can see it here http://lnix.net/~froud/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[05:32] <froud> Some of the old text stil remains
[07:52] <mart> erm, could anyone with tetex-doc installed see if this works, please? kdvi /usr/share/doc/texmf/tetex/TETEXDOC.dvi.gz
[07:52] <mart> in breezy


[12:36] <mdeslaur> hallyn: hi! heads up, we hit a bug with some backported shadow patches, looks like it may affect the latest upstream version too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/1998169
[12:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu-security- Launchpad bug 1998169 in shadow (Ubuntu) "useradd command does not copy all of /etc/skel" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[12:37] <mdeslaur> we're reverting for now until we can investigate properly
[12:56] <mdeslaur> oh, it may be because it needs a newer glibc
[13:22] <mdeslaur> yeah, it's an issue with our backport and older glibc, sorry for the noise
[17:26] <grimmware> sdeziel: hey, so I'm currently playing around with installing a 5.19 kernel on Jammy - I notice that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-aws has 5.19 available but there's no linux-aws-edge package that I'm able to see in the repos, do you know if this is an oversight or just not released yet or ???
[17:28] <sdeziel> grimmware: those 5.19 kernels are build for 22.10 and 23.04, not 22.04 (yet)
[17:29] <grimmware> ack, it was my understanding that the linux-aws-edge would be a preview of those kernels for 22.04
[17:30] <sdeziel> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/linux-aws-edge, dunno if the same package will be made available for 22.04 eventually
[17:30] <sdeziel> FYI, I'm not part of the security team nor the kernel team
[17:30] <grimmware> oh sorry!
[17:31] <sdeziel> no worries, I'm just explaining why I know only little ;)
[17:37] <sbeattie> grimmware: the hwe backports from kinetic are just starting to happen; lunix-hwe-5.19 has just started to make its way in: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe-5.19 but linux-aws-5.19 has not been prepared yet.
[17:37] <sbeattie> grimmware: might be worth asking in @ubuntu-kernel what the timeline for that kernel is.
[17:38] <sbeattie> at least for the initial edge versions.
[17:38] <grimmware> sbeattie: ah that's really good to know! Yeah I'll pop in and ask!
[17:39] <sbeattie> typically, they become the primary (i.e. non-edge) kernels a few weeks before the next LTS point release.
[22:31] <amurray> good morning
[22:35] <sarnold> hey amurray :)
[22:35] <amurray> hey sarnold :)


[14:30] <Chex> hellos MagicFabster
[14:30] <MagicFab> Chex, cyphermox, IdleOne o/
[14:30] <MagicFab> sipherdee, :P
[14:30] <cyphermox> morning
[14:31] <IdleOne> MagicFab: Hey!
[15:11] <Chex> wasabi
[15:57] <IdleOne> MagicFab: open source trello?
[15:58] <IdleOne> do you know of any?
[16:05] <cyphermox> you're funny, I was looking at that earlier
[16:05] <cyphermox> didn't really find anythign that has a similar table form thingy
[16:08] <IdleOne> yeah, there doesn't seem to be anything that has the same look and feel
[16:08] <IdleOne> s/same/similar/
[16:20] <IdleOne> cyphermox: you should work on one and secretly put it in 13.04. Surprise!
[16:24] <cyphermox> no thanks ;)
[16:24] <cyphermox> I've already found enough small projects to secretly put in 13.04 ;)
[16:27] <IdleOne> you should put an IdleOne easter egg :)
[16:51] <MagicFab> IdleOne, real men only use email.
[16:52] <MagicFab> What's trello btw?
[18:27] <IdleOne> MagicFab: https://trello.com/tour
[18:28] <MagicFab> IdleOne, looks like the old gwibber :)
[18:29] <IdleOne> heh
[18:30]  * cyphermox preferred the old gwibber
[18:34] <MagicFab> IdleOne, maybe http://getontracks.org/ or http://www.activecollab.com/
[18:40] <IdleOne> http://getontracks.org/  Looks interesting
[18:40] <IdleOne> Thank you.
[18:43] <MagicFab> IdleOne, where did that come up?
[18:44] <IdleOne> jussi asked about an open alternative to trello and it got me interested


[03:27] <TheMuso> desrt: I was talking to Will last night, and we were talking about GTK and Mir. He said that you were doing something with chroots, thinking it was related to GTK mir testing. Is this the case? If so, what have you done to set things up? I want to try a11y stack with GTK under mir to see what breaks.
[03:28] <desrt> TheMuso: no.  unrelated.
[03:28] <desrt> i'm using chroots to build glib in various configurations for testing purposes
[03:35] <TheMuso> Ok no worries.
[03:38]  * duflu wonders if GTK+Mir behaves better since he tested it last many months ago
[06:16] <didrocks> morning
[06:21] <desrt> didrocks: hihi
[06:24] <pitti> Good morning
[06:26] <desrt> pitti: hey... i wanted to ask why you stopped doing jhbuild on canonistack
[06:26] <pitti> hey desrt
[06:26] <pitti> desrt: it was a lot of maintenance, and there was relatively little actual interest upstream
[06:27] <desrt> sounds about right
[06:27] <pitti> not really an explicit decision, it just decayed
[06:27] <desrt> did you ever consider making the build results available for download?
[06:28] <pitti> desrt: you mean not just the logs, but the actual built tree? we didn't back then, and didn't discuss it
[06:29] <pitti> if that's actually useful, it could be possible; but the builds should be reproducible fairly well
[06:29] <desrt> i did a lot of debianification work on jhbuild over the holidays
[06:29] <pitti> the thing that's usually less reproducible is test failures as they are sometimes sensitive to the environment (CPU speed, load, etc.)
[06:29] <desrt> with the goal of targetting schroot debootstraps
[06:29] <didrocks> hey desrt! guten morgen pitti
[06:29] <desrt> and producing .tar of the products, one-by-one
[06:30] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va ?
[06:30] <desrt> (which will also help facilitate parallel building)
[06:30] <didrocks> pitti: ça peut aller, et toi?
[06:30] <pitti> didrocks: mieux qu'hier, pas plus de fièvre
[06:31] <didrocks> pitti: content d'entendre ça :)
[06:31] <desrt> you guys use some strange encryption software
[06:34] <desrt> pitti: were you running in a vm?
[06:35] <pitti> desrt: yes, the current development series back then
[06:35] <pitti> i. e. minimal cloud image with the necessary build deps installed
[06:40] <desrt> hmm
[06:40] <desrt> you figure upstream would be more interested in test failures
[06:40] <desrt> i mean, this is linux
[06:40] <desrt> i guess it comes down to lack of time, as always :/
[06:53] <desrt> mvo: hello!
[06:53] <mvo> hey desrt! good morning and happy new year
[06:54] <desrt> same to you.  welcome back.
[06:57] <duflu> desrt: Did you change timezones?
[06:57] <duflu> Or just nocturnal
[06:57] <desrt> maybe :)
[06:57] <desrt> i've been working on a lot of interesting things lately
[06:57] <desrt> it's also been cold as hell out, so i've spent little time outside
[06:58] <desrt> both of these things tend to have a negative impact on a regular sleep schedule
[06:58] <duflu> desrt: Fair enough. Admittedly summer here makes it easier to not sleep during daylight hoursd
[07:12] <RAOF> Hah! And we have a fully working pollable-fd branch. desrt, you will soon be able to enjoy the marvel that is mir_connection_dispatch();
[07:12] <desrt> hells ya
[07:12] <RAOF> (For values of soon which require code review)
[07:45] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[07:50] <RAOF> desrt: Feel free to check out https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/eventloop-integration/+merge/245926
[08:15] <pitti> hey RAOF, bonjour seb128 !
[08:15] <seb128> hey pitti, happy friday! wie gehts?
[08:16] <pitti> seb128: viel besser, danke! und DIr?
[08:16] <seb128> pitti, gut, danke! ;-)
[08:16] <seb128> it's friday ;-)
[08:24] <willcooke> morning all
[08:25]  * willcooke -> schooll
[08:25] <willcooke> sigh
[08:25] <willcooke> typing
[08:29] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:30] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:54] <willcooke> This week has seemed long
[08:54] <willcooke> glad its Friday
[08:54] <darkxst> hey seb128 didrocks pitti
[08:54] <willcooke> :)
[08:56] <ochosi> larsu: not sure disabling menu-icons altogether is really such a nice option. that really sucks e.g. in gimp and in xubuntu there's no hud with which you can search the menus...
[08:57] <didrocks> evening darkxst
[08:57] <seb128> hey
[08:57] <darkxst> didrocks, a very wet evening here !
[08:57] <didrocks> willcooke: it's been a really weird one here due to the news TBH
[08:57] <darkxst> seb128, ok if I make a new gnome-session-wayland binary package?
[08:58] <willcooke> didrocks, yeah, that stuff was horrible
[08:58] <willcooke> is
[09:00] <seb128> darkxst, Debian did that?
[09:00] <darkxst> seb128, no, fedora did that, debian just put it in with the other session files
[09:00] <seb128> darkxst, I would prefer to do what Debian does, did you talk to them about doing that?
[09:00] <didrocks> willcooke: yeah, it's not over, there is are some hostages and gun shots that happened 45 minutes ago
[09:00] <seb128> why is it needed?
[09:01] <darkxst> its basically working now, but not really good enough to be installed by default
[09:01] <willcooke> didrocks, oh??  ****
[09:01]  * willcooke reads the news
[09:01] <darkxst> seb128, so people can try wayland
[09:01] <seb128> darkxst, they can't on Debian?
[09:01] <seb128> seems like something Debian might want as well
[09:01] <seb128> should be done there imhp
[09:01] <seb128> imho
[09:01] <darkxst> seb128, yes, they can on debian its installed by default
[09:02] <seb128> oh ok
[09:02] <darkxst> but I'm not convinced its that ready
[09:02] <seb128> well, fine to split to me
[09:02] <seb128> +1
[09:02] <seb128> thanks for the explanations
[09:02] <seb128> and yeah, I think it better be optional than installed by default
[09:03] <darkxst> seb128, yes that is exactly my thinking
[09:03] <darkxst> a broken "GNOME on wayland" session will just confuse people
[09:05] <Laney> yo
[09:05] <darkxst> hey Laney
[09:07] <Laney> hey darkxst
[09:07] <Laney> darkxst: I think you should talk to them first
[09:07] <Laney> happy friday
[09:07]  * Laney checks it actually is friday before getting too excited
[09:07] <Laney> looks so
[09:08] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:09] <Laney> hey seb128
[09:09] <Laney> how's it going
[09:09] <seb128> good, it's friday!
[09:09] <Laney> it is, I just verified
[09:11] <larsu> ochosi: it's what upstream wants...
[09:11] <larsu> ochosi: why go against the stream?
[09:11] <seb128> larsu, what does upstream want?
[09:12] <Noskcaj> I probably won't be able to respond to any emails from tomorrow till the 24th
[09:12] <ochosi> larsu: yeah i know. but it's not very accessible imo if you have large menus like that of gimp. it becomes a "wall of text"
[09:12] <ochosi> seb128: icons in menus
[09:12] <seb128> ah
[09:12] <Noskcaj> Just incase i have reviews that need work or MOTU application stuff
[09:12] <seb128> Noskcaj, hey, k
[09:13] <ochosi> seb128: there's a bug (at least i consider it that) in gtkaction that produces imagemenuitems even on menubars by default for gtkactions defined in .ui files
[09:14] <Laney> hey larsu
[09:14] <larsu> morning Laney!
[09:14] <darkxst> Laney, I will check, but they are in freeze now, and we already split all the sessions out in gnome-session compared to debian
[09:14] <ochosi> larsu: a probably even better example is the "open with..." submenu in the file-manager.
[09:15] <larsu> ochosi: that always has icons
[09:15] <larsu> not all icons were removed from menus
[09:15] <larsu> it's just that we don't put icons on _every_ menu item anymore
[09:16] <larsu> instead, only on ones which are "nouns" and have a visual representation in other parts of the system
[09:16] <larsu> such as: applications, users, drives, etc.
[09:16] <Laney> darkxst: I thought it was just providing an ubuntu-session package with the unity stuff
[09:16] <ochosi> yeah, i get that. but you suggested to disable menu-icons altogether yesterday (at least if i understood you correctly) with the global gtksetting
[09:17] <larsu> oh interesting!! according to this bug that mclasen pasted, this is my fault... https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742181
[09:17] <larsu> ochosi: ah sorry that's not what I meant. I suggested to disable the setting, which gets rid of "verb" icons in menu items
[09:18] <ochosi> larsu: hm, there's another? i thought there was only "MenuImages"
[09:19] <ochosi> oh
[09:19] <larsu> no, just the one
[09:19] <ochosi> so i wasn't the only one noticing
[09:19] <larsu> apparently not
[09:20] <ochosi> good good
[09:20] <ochosi> i don't see a comment by mclasen there but yeah, it looks like it's your fault :}
[09:21] <larsu> mclasen pointed me to the bug
[09:21] <larsu> on irc
[09:21] <ochosi> oh
[09:21] <ochosi> nice of him
[09:21] <ochosi> (and of you, to investigate!)
[09:22] <darkxst> Laney, the gnome session is also split
[09:22] <Laney> where?
[09:24] <ochosi> larsu: just out of curiosity, how would we have achieved what you descirbed earlier, only disabling specific icons?
[09:27] <darkxst> Laney, oh maybe not, maybe I am thinking of breakage caused by upstart user sessions
[09:29] <larsu> ochosi: icons from GMenuModel are always shown (the docs have an explanation of when to use icons). Otherwise there's the "always-show-image" property on GtkImageMenuItem
[09:29] <Laney> ah well this is still opt-in by being listed in /etc/upstart-xsessions
[09:29]  * Laney puzzles about the failed image builds
[09:30] <ochosi> larsu: right, so your suggestion was code, not a simple setting :) since xfce is still gtk2, it follows an older HIG
[09:31] <darkxst> Laney, or it was actually fallout from the ubuntu-session split dropping depends I guess
[09:31] <darkxst> but that was eons ago
[09:51] <seb128> willcooke, I'm just trying today's daily desktop-next image, it does boot correctly in windows mode
[09:52] <willcooke> seb128, sweet - thanks.  I must have had old information.
[09:52]  * willcooke throws away the PostIt Note
[09:57] <larsu> ochosi: no, my suggestion was to disable the setting, because I didn't think anyone upstream cares enough to fix this (gtkimagemenuitem is deprecated after all)
[09:57] <larsu> ochosi: now that I found out that I introduced this change, I might as well fix it ;)
[09:57] <ochosi> larsu: cool, thanks a lot for your help!
[10:12] <Laney> weird networking problems on my desktop today
[10:12] <Laney> blah
[10:14]  * Laney tries old kernel
[10:24] <Laney> hahaha
[10:24] <Laney> the network cable had slipped out a bit
[10:25] <Laney> why do those clip bits always break off?
[10:25] <Laney> and why was it working kind of sort of ...
[10:28] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, are you working on those bamf "loosing" icons since the gtk update, like the firefox one?
[10:28] <seb128> larsu, ^ do you know what's the status about that?
[10:30] <larsu> seb128: my last status was that Trevinho said he knows where to look and will look
[10:30] <seb128> larsu, good, thanks ;-)
[10:49] <Trevinho> seb128: not yet
[11:05] <Laney> pitti & jibel: Looks like sysvinit migrated despite floodlight failing
[11:05] <Laney> it was waiting on it
[11:05] <Laney> can we see why that happened?
[11:05] <pitti> Laney: floodlight's failure didn't look related to the new sysvinit
[11:05] <Laney> it wasn't
[11:06] <Laney> but nobody hinted it either
[11:06] <pitti> right, so I overrode it
[11:06] <Laney> you're doing that?
[11:06] <pitti> Laney: ah, I did that in the status files on britney
[11:06] <pitti> I can't update the ~ubuntu-release overrides
[11:07] <pitti> Laney: yeah, sometimes; mostly for gcc and similar, as otherwise they'd be stuck forever
[11:07] <pitti> but when someone asks or I spot something on excuses I also do it for other packages
[11:07] <pitti> +1 maintenance, if you will
[11:08] <Laney> perhaps you should get a proper hint file rather than using this trap door :)
[11:09] <xnox_unity_broke> So my unity is broken on my normal account, guest session works fine.
[11:09] <xnox_unity_broke> unity --reset is deprecated and does nothing
[11:10] <xnox_unity_broke> how can I reset my compiz/unity to be stock again? (failing that I'll be creating a new user account for myself....)
[11:10] <Laney> seb128 is good with debugging these things
[11:15] <pitti> xnox_unity_broke: backup .config/dconf/user for debugging, and then dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ ?
[11:15] <pitti> "dconf dump /org/compiz/" shows your custom settings
[11:15] <pitti> maybe something there is the obvious candidate
[11:16] <pitti> or /com/canonical/unity/
[11:16] <pitti> xnox_unity_broke: ^
[11:16] <pitti> happy bisecting!
[11:16] <xnox_unity_broke> hm...
[11:28] <xnox_no_unity> hm, so it says that opengl plugin fails to load in compiz.
[11:29] <xnox_no_unity> and i get XIO fatal IO error 11 resource temporary unavailable in compiz logs....
[11:34] <xnox> ok that was scary
[11:34] <xnox> combination of these: http://askubuntu.com/questions/454779/unity-will-not-boot-load-after-upgrade-from-13-10-to-14-04 made me able to start unity
[11:34] <xnox> and i'll go back to work and not logout ever now =)
[12:19] <happyaron> didrocks: mind revisit the fcitx MIR?
[12:21] <ochosi> larsu: another issue i encountered is the sound indicator not playing well with gtk3.14, the volume scale is broken (entirely for DND; sort of for click) and sometimes the indicator crashes altogether or doesn't show an icon
[12:22] <larsu> ochosi: thanks, known issue :)
[12:22] <ochosi> oh ok :)
[12:23] <larsu> I think someone opened a bug about it even
[12:26] <didrocks> happyaron: is it ready for a rereview then? great! :)
[12:26] <didrocks> happyaron: I'll have a look on Monday
[12:27] <happyaron> didrocks: yep, thx!
[12:30] <didrocks> yw ;)
[12:48] <seb128> xnox, how did you fix it?
[12:48] <seb128> Trevinho, what are you working on? just curious what comes before fixing vivid visible issues :-)
[12:49] <Trevinho> seb128: LIM stuff..
[12:50] <seb128> shrug
[14:17] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[14:18] <seb128> kenvandine, I've asked around about that string question from yesterday
[14:18] <kenvandine> hey seb128
[14:18] <seb128> kenvandine, launchpad shares strings between series of a same distribution, but ubuntu and ubuntu-rtm are different distributions
[14:18] <kenvandine> makes sense
[14:18] <kenvandine> but painful
[14:18] <seb128> kenvandine, cjwatson linked the package to the product, that should make the string shared
[14:19] <kenvandine> oh, great... so we're good now?
[14:19] <seb128> but I'm unsure what that means for the template
[14:19] <seb128> we should make sure it doesn't make it use the wrong template I guess
[14:19] <kenvandine> how do we do that?
[14:19] <seb128> shrug, I think it does
[14:20] <seb128> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/ has
[14:20] <seb128> " This source package is sharing translations with ubuntu-system-settings trunk series. "
[14:26] <seb128> pitti, was that cgmanager/ual/systemd email discussion on a list by any chance?  oh, and thanks for the summary  ;-)
[14:26] <pitti> seb128: no, between slangasek, hallyn, stgraber and me in private mail, I'm afraid
[14:27] <seb128> ok, no worry
[14:27] <seb128> I was more interested by the outcome anyway, so thanks for the summary ;-)
[14:28] <seb128> tedg, didrocks, willcooke, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgmanager/+bug/1400394/comments/9 might interest you on the unity8/ual/cgroups issue
[14:28] <pitti> seb128: I think hallyn was mostly concerned about political issues there, but we both agree that there should not be any serious technical problems
[14:31] <tedg> pitti, So then can we automatically start cgmanager if a Unity8 desktop is chosen?
[14:32] <didrocks> I'm still looking at what is cleaning my /tmp, I wonder if it wasn't cgmanager, but needs confirmation
[14:33] <pitti> tedg: yes
[14:34] <pitti> tedg: well, if we install the cgmanager package, initially
[14:34] <pitti> tedg: I'd rather make it dbus or socket activated, but that requires a bit of work (and is mostly just a boot time optimization)
[14:35] <tedg> pitti, We'd need it for U8 though, right? So it'd just be a dependency of u8?
[14:35] <pitti> tedg: or UAL, or whatever actually tries to talk to it, yes
[14:35] <pitti> (UAL, supposedly?)
[14:35] <tedg> Seems upstart?
[14:35] <tedg> UAL does as well.
[14:35] <pitti> why would upstart need it?
[14:35] <tedg> Upstart uses it to create cgroups.
[14:38] <pitti> tedg: oh interesting, I didn't know that; I thought it was UAL
[14:38] <tedg> No, no, I make Upstart do all the hard work :-)
[14:39] <pitti> tedg: so yes, then I suppose upstart-bin should grow at least a Recommends: cgmanager the
[14:39] <pitti> n
[14:39] <pitti> tedg: but aside from these details, I guess we're okay now?
[14:39] <tedg> K, so we can add a requires in UAL. Not sure if it should be the lib or binary, but sure.
[14:40] <tedg> I think so.
[14:40] <tedg> I might be an adventure :-)
[14:40] <pitti> stgraber might still have some objections, but I hope not too strong ones
[14:51] <willcooke> seb128, do you know if the U7 dash supports Orca at all?
[14:55] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: we should update trusty to 4.2.8, I just send you package link and details by email ...
[14:59] <seb128> willcooke, I don't know, it's not using gtk so not getting that for free, some of the u7 bits support screenreader I think
[15:00] <seb128> didrocks, Trevinho or bregma might know/remember better
[15:00] <willcooke> thx seb128
[15:00] <Trevinho> willcooke: the dash I don't think so
[15:00] <bregma> willcooke, I do not believe it does, not correctly any way
[15:00] <seb128> willcooke, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066157
[15:01] <Trevinho> willcooke: launcher does, so panel... although in a very limited way
[15:01] <seb128> willcooke, from that bug it looks like Luke was looking at it, maybe check with him next week
[15:01] <willcooke> yeah, good call. thx
[15:02] <seb128> that bug description suggests some bits work
[15:02] <bregma> I believe the fix required some Nux changes, and we sort of like to tiptoe around doing that
[15:02] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, thanks
[15:03] <bregma> might be better now that the StaticCairoText widget has matured a little more.....
[15:04] <didrocks> willcooke: themuso was supposed to handle it a couple of cycles ago
[15:04] <willcooke> I'll have a chat with him next week
[17:32] <Laney> tkamppeter: hi, I don't see cups-filters-ippusbxd in trusty, where is it?
[17:32] <Laney> or did you not mean to upload s-c-p including those changes?
[17:46] <willcooke> right, I'm outta here.  Hope you all have a relaxing weekend
[17:46] <willcooke> ta
[18:02] <Laney> me too, laters
[23:39] <tkamppeter> Laney, The package should go in with the SRU of cups-filters, I do not know whether I have donme all correctly I never have done a SRU introducing a new binary package before.
[23:40] <tkamppeter> Laney, I have also withdrawn the s-c-p package of this SRU earlier to do another more important SRU before (which is nearly done, it is already verified).
[23:41] <tkamppeter> Laney, I am also trying to get more feedback from the manufacturers, to see whether ippusbxd integration works corectly (I have no printer to test by myself).
[23:48] <Laney> tkamppeter: I don't see a corresponding upload of cups-filters though, that's the problem
[23:52] <tkamppeter> Laney, I have a message titled "[ubuntu/trusty-proposed] cups-filters 1.0.52-0ubuntu1.3 (Accepted)". This should mean that the package was uploaded and not rejected. No later message concerning this package.
[23:52] <tkamppeter> Laney, bug 1386241.
[23:53] <Laney> tkamppeter: That one was deleted upon your request: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/1.0.52-0ubuntu1.3/+publishinghistory
[23:56] <Laney> This situation is causing trusty images to fail to build, e.g. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/194383676/buildlog_ubuntu_trusty_i386_ubuntu_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ("system-config-printer-udev : Depends: cups-filters-ippusbxd but it is not installable")
[23:59] <tkamppeter> Laney, the SRU is of three parts, cups-filters, s-c-p, and cups, s-c-p pulls in cups-filters-ippusbxd. My intention was to withdraw all the three, to let the other s-c-p SRU go first. Or is it possible that the ippusbxd dependency has accidentally gotten into the other SRU?
[23:59] <Laney> I think you uploaded the new s-c-p SRU with the changes from the previous one to add ippusbxd support in it too.


[07:52] <andrejz> Hello! I noticed a minor typo in the docs for natty. There is one space too much before "Banshee manual" in ubuntu-docs-musicvideophotos, string 157
[08:11] <Atamira> you should email the documentation list just in case it gets missed in here
[08:12] <andrejz> ok i will
[21:36] <JCD> hi
[21:37] <head_victim> Good morning
[21:38] <JCD> I had a question about the new desktop guide for ubuntu?
[21:39] <head_victim> Ask away, I may or may not know but someone else might be able to chip in :)
[21:39] <JCD> ok :)
[21:39] <JCD> Is there a french translation available is it still in the works?
[21:40] <head_victim> In that case, can you link me to what you mean by desktop guide. It could be a number of things
[21:41] <JCD> this: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[21:42] <JCD> or when you start the help (yelp) app in ubuntu
[21:42] <head_victim> Hang on a tic I'll have a poke around for you
[21:44] <JCD> ok thanks
[21:45] <head_victim> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gnome-user-docs/+pots/gnome-user-docs-user-guide is where I was looking
[21:45] <head_victim> It seems to suggest that it's pretty well translated already
[21:47] <head_victim> I assume you have your locale and language set up right?
[21:47] <JCD> both to french
[21:49] <head_victim> I'm a bit stumped sorry, I don't recall anyone mentioning any issues. Maybe ask on the mailing list - details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam#Contact or just hag around until someone with more information than I do appears.
[21:49] <JCD> it should come up in french right? not in english if ubuntu is setup as french hmmmmm
[21:49] <JCD> ok
[21:50] <head_victim> The website will probably always show english but I would have thought the yelp would have been french.
[21:50] <head_victim> I'm a bit lacking in testing for that though as I only translate english derivatives.
[21:51] <JCD> this is for 11.04
[21:52] <JCD> is there a way I can pull the source text?
[21:53] <head_victim> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gnome-user-docs/+pots/gnome-user-docs-user-guide/fr/+translate has a link to download the translation but that gives you a PO or MO, don't know if that's useful to you or not
[21:56] <JCD> ok ill have a look
[21:57] <JCD> it must be a known issue i would gather since 11.04 is so recent
[21:58] <head_victim> You could try asking someone in ubuntu-fr to see if they know more.
[21:58] <head_victim> Either that or the mailing list :)
[22:04] <JCD> ok thanks ill stick around for a while if anyone has a definite answer :)
[22:05] <head_victim> Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance
[22:06] <JCD> thanks for your help :)


[09:46] <thorwil> marcushaslam: hi! sladen's and my mails from 14th? regarding http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2011/06/12/ubuntu-friendly-logo-4/
[20:17]  * stoerenungeheuer is back (gone 00:01:06)
[20:18]  * stoerenungeheuer is away: beschaeftigt/busy/away---leave-a-message
[20:46] <etneg> hi
[20:46] <etneg> does ubuntu need artists?
[20:46] <etneg> not digital
[20:46] <etneg> like sketch/concept guys
[21:00] <thorwil> etneg: hold on
[21:00] <thorwil> etneg: have a look at http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/06/graphics-ninjas-invited-to-help/
[21:02] <thorwil> etneg: i'm about to log off, Islington and vish are the best people to talk to in this matters
[21:02] <thorwil> etneg: and DanRabbit if you are interested in Elementary
[23:15] <coz_> all
[23:15] <coz_> hey all
[23:27] <etneg> thanks
[23:32] <etneg> ok
[23:32] <etneg> thats all graphic work though
[23:33] <etneg> DanRabbit: there?
[23:33] <DanRabbit> etneg: what's up?
[23:33] <etneg> oh thorwil said to talk to you
[23:33] <etneg> doyou guys need someone who can do art stuff on paper
[23:33] <etneg> ?
[23:33] <etneg> like for concepts,
[23:33] <etneg> sketches
[23:34] <etneg> cloud.ubuntu.com wants a graphic person
[23:34] <DanRabbit> etneg: hm I don't know about Ubuntu, but for elementary we were talking recently about designs for cool swag :D
[23:35] <etneg> whats elementary
[23:36] <etneg> i mean do you need concepts for it in pencil?
[23:37] <etneg> if so what sort of theme
[23:45] <etneg> so..
[23:47] <etneg> guess elementary wont need me:P
[23:47]  * etneg will see if ubuntu does
[23:54] <etneg> DanRabbit: so would you need pencil concepts?
[23:55] <DanRabbit> etneg: sorry I have a lot of conversations going on. elementary is the team of individuals who are working on the Pantheon desktop environment as well as elementary OS (and Ubuntu DE spin like Kubuntu or Xubuntu)
[23:56] <DanRabbit> etneg: you can check out our website here: www.elementaryos.org
[23:56] <etneg> i did
[23:56] <DanRabbit> any sort of designs would be appreciated :) We were just thinking of some merchandise concepts to support the developers.
[23:56] <etneg> but i didnt an idea of what designs
[23:56] <etneg> get *
[23:56] <etneg> do you have an example
[23:57] <DanRabbit> of merchandise? http://shop.canonical.com/
[23:58] <etneg> oh so you need ideas for merchandise?
[23:58] <etneg> but sketches?
[23:58] <DanRabbit> um I dunno, why not skteches? :p
[23:59] <etneg> that would be weird for just merchandise
[23:59] <etneg> :D
[23:59] <DanRabbit> I'm really not sure how else to apply sketch art, unfortunately
[23:59] <etneg> i mean 5 mins at the most to sketch?
[23:59] <etneg> well for instance for fedora i do the concepts and sketches for their wallpapers and banners
[23:59] <etneg> something along those lines
[23:59] <etneg> they basically turn sketch art to digital art