[07:07] <Tominator> ikonia: I think it'll be faster to compile the newer version myself won't it?
[07:07] <iammisc> it won;t allow me to remove all of them right?
[07:07] <bulmer> SanguineAnomaly: try the next one maybe? f2?
[07:07] <dimeotane> what I'm trying to figure out is what encryption or password protection that .zip offers in file roller when I set a password
[07:07] <SanguineAnomaly> bulmer, same
[07:07] <dimeotane> Winzip and PKzip are AES encryption
[07:07] <ikonia> Tominator: thats your call, just remember your in this position because YOU broke the dependency tree, so you're welcome to carry on that way
[07:07] <SanguineAnomaly> they're all black - at least they were, they're now all multicoloured :S
[07:08] <yell0w> iammisc, use synaptics, it gives you more visually on what you have installed / not installed and easier to pick out the one you don't want
[07:08] <iammisc> yeah i'm doing that
[07:08] <bulmer> SanguineAnomaly: umm cant recall, but maybe /etc/securetty have something you can look at
[07:08] <Tominator> ikonia: how could I have not done it?
[07:08] <SanguineAnomaly> bulmer, ok, thanks
[07:08] <yell0w> iammisc, 686 gives noticable difference in the feel of the system
[07:08] <yell0w> :)
[07:08] <juano__> OrangeOrange: sorry , let me check i was afk a sec
[07:08] <ikonia> Tominator: use the versions from the repo
[07:09] <OrangeOrange> juano__: dont worry, im kinda use to it..
[07:09] <ikonia> Tominator: package up the newer version against ubuntu deps
[07:09] <yell0w> iammisc, i just cleaned out my kernels and switch to 686 2 days ago, loved it
[07:09] <Eposhark> I'm trying to get my wireless to work, and I got a little closer. In installed ndiswrapper, and I found an .inf file which I loaded into ndisgtk, this is the output:
[07:09] <Eposhark> epo@epuntu:/media/data$ ndiswrapper -l
[07:09] <Eposhark> e100b325 : invalid driver!
[07:09] <Eposhark> netw39x5 : driver installed
[07:09] <Eposhark> netwlan : invalid driver!
[07:09] <Eposhark> w29n51 : driver installed
[07:09] <lordkeiden> will running avahi interfer with network manager?
[07:09] <juano__> OrangeOrange: mm weird though i dont see where the duplicate entry is
[07:09] <juano__> OrangeOrange: is this making apt crashing ?
[07:09] <Eposhark> So now it seems I have a working driver, what should I do next? iwconfig stills says there is nothing
[07:09] <jexdawg> in totem, i'm trying to play a .mov and i have sound, and when i move the screen around really fast i can see little parts of the video, but when i just let it sit there it isn't showing up. what gives?
[07:10] <Eposhark> "eth1      no wireless extensions.
[07:10] <Eposhark> "
[07:10] <OrangeOrange> juano__: wat?
[07:10] <yell0w> !w32codecs | jexdawg
[07:10] <ubotu> jexdawg: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:10] <OrangeOrange> juano__: well wen i do the apt get update.. it show me the error before i show u...
[07:10] <jexdawg> gracias yell0w
[07:10] <assasukasse> question: is there a way to make a driver compilated with a kernal to stay there even when i update kernel
[07:10] <yell0w> jexdawg, de nada
[07:10] <juano__> OrangeOrange: yeah but, i mean , can you still download with this error ? or is apt crashing ?
[07:10] <AmaroqWolf> jexdawg, if you've got the codecs installed that it needs, you might still need to mess with that player's settings.
[07:11] <bulmer> Eposhark: maybe you can try that ndiskgtk front end for ndiswrapper, dont know how much it would help
[07:11] <gaspipe1> hey all
[07:11] <bulmer> ndisgtk*
[07:11] <Eposhark> I loaded the driver using that :-)
[07:11] <OrangeOrange> ermm
[07:11] <Eposhark> But it's only used for loading a driver
[07:12] <OrangeOrange> juano__: it have hit , get... but it will stop with the error messsage.. so is it dl completely?
[07:12] <bulmer> Eposhark: nothing shows up on your /etc/networking/interfaces ..look at dmesg too
[07:12] <juano__> OrangeOrange: ok, it stops with that error message
[07:12] <juano__> OrangeOrange: apt-get stops with that error message
[07:13] <OrangeOrange> so apt-get stops ____________ the blank are the big error messages?
[07:14] <andre> hey guys
[07:14] <andre> I'm having a problem with the nvidia drivers... can anyone help me?
[07:14] <Yodude> hey how sdo i install a tar.gz package?
[07:14] <yell0w> !ask | andre
[07:14] <ubotu> andre: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:14] <cables> Yodude, extract it and see if there's a readme
[07:14] <juano__> OrangeOrange: mm, your sources.list seems fine though
[07:14] <ikonia> andre how can we help if you don't tell us the problem
[07:14] <dimeotane> how do I use dpkg to find out what version is installed of zip
[07:14] <nofxx> how to change the default new user model??? keyboard layout.. wallpaper...
[07:15] <ikonia> dimeotane: man dpkg
[07:15] <soundray> dimeotane: 'dpkg -l zip' (man dpkg helps, too)
[07:15] <cables> dimeotane, not sure how to use dpkg, but you could to "aptitude show <packagename>"
[07:15] <Jowi_n1> Yodude, either unpack it with "tar" or use "file-roller", which is a graphical front end
[07:15] <dimeotane> k thx
[07:15] <Jowi_n1> nofxx, /etc/skel contain all the default settings for new users
[07:15] <Yodude> but hey i have a primary question
[07:16] <Yodude> where should my apps be installed?
[07:16] <nofxx> Jowi_n1: there is nothing there....
[07:16] <Yodude> at / or /home
[07:16] <Yodude> ?
[07:16] <jexdawg> ermm.. what is command to edit sources.list with root access? sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:16] <cables> Yodude, /usr/bin usually
[07:16] <juano__> OrangeOrange: paste this : sudo ls -a /var/lib/apt/lists
[07:16] <Littlegator> does the mouse-3 button not work or something?
[07:16] <[BTF] Chm0d> my sound is kinda skipping and stuttering any suggestions?
[07:16] <cables> Yodude, you can check with the command: "whereis <programname>"
[07:16] <soundray> Yodude: what are you installing?
[07:16] <[BTF] Chm0d> its a fairly new ubuntu install
[07:17] <Littlegator> Is there any way to make mouse3 scroll like in windows? That's the one feature I miss >_>
[07:17] <Jowi_n1> Yodude, usually /usr/local or /opt is what I use myself
[07:17] <ikonia> Littlegator: wiki and forums
[07:17] <andre> soory brb
[07:18] <lordkeiden> will running avahi interfer with network manager?
[07:18] <Jowi_n1> nofxx, also see /etc/gnome/ for gnome specific defaults
[07:18] <soundray> lordkeiden: no, it shouldn't. Feisty will use both by default
[07:18] <Yodude> hey does anybody know why the repositories are slow at this time?
[07:18] <edex> Hey every body!  I have a question about Totem..
[07:18] <cables> Yodude, lots of updates maybe?
[07:18] <Yodude> in the morning i wa getting a good speed now i'm bvarely connecting
[07:19] <nofxx> Jowi_n1: been there too...only default applications there.... xD
[07:19] <AlexC_> edex: then ask it if you want help.
[07:19] <quaal> too all offended: my apologies.
[07:19] <Yodude> i'm not installing the updates for now i'm just downloading my nvidia driver
[07:19] <edex> when trying to play a dvd I get the message no URI handler implemented for 'dvd'    how can I implement this
[07:19] <_`XeOn_> i need help to mount my hard drive as persistent
[07:19] <cables> Yodude, but a lot of people probably are installing updates
[07:19] <Yodude> btw how can i update a single app?
[07:20] <Yodude> without re-downloading thw whole of it?
[07:20] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: how can we help if you don't ask a question!
[07:20] <ikonia> quaal: are you going to drop the attitude now ?
[07:20] <Jowi_n1> nofxx, /usr/share/gnome ?
[07:20] <ikonia> rather than just apply to a polite request ?
[07:20] <nanomad> hi all!
[07:20] <Nitro> Hello
[07:20] <OrangeOrange> juano__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5289/ sry was away
[07:20] <_`XeOn_> i need to mount my win32 partition
[07:20] <Nitro> Anyone that can tell me?
[07:20] <jexdawg> umm.. i got .mov to work but no luck on .wmv and .mpeg. crap.
[07:20] <AlexC_> !wmv | jexdawg
[07:20] <ubotu> jexdawg: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:20] <hanasaki> what package do you folks recommend for a VPN?  It has to work with windows clients as well as wireless and linux (maybe mac too)
[07:20] <cables> !ntfs | _`XeOn_
[07:20] <ubotu> _`XeOn_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:20] <pradeep> !ask | Nitro,
[07:20] <ubotu> Nitro,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:21] <quaal> ikonia, no apology was requested. i made the apology on my own accord. now get over it. thank you.
[07:21] <soundray> !fat32 | _`XeOn_
[07:21] <ubotu> _`XeOn_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:21] <juano__> OrangeOrange: maybe you got duplicated entries in there
[07:21] <nanomad> just installed feisty...is it normal that the close, hide and maximize buttons are at 3/4 of my window in the title bar?
[07:21] <Nitro> pradeep: I've already asked
[07:21] <drphx> Hello.  I'm trying to install 6.10 on a Sony Vaio laptop from the PCMCIA CD-ROM drive and installation is stopping at a BusyBox prompt with an error -- '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off' and then a '(initframfs)' prompt.  any suggestsions?
[07:21] <cables> nanomad, it's alpha...
[07:21] <OrangeOrange> juano__: do i edit that.. how do i edit that?
[07:21] <soundray> nanomad: no. Ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:21] <jexdawg> ty alexc
[07:21] <andre> ok guy I'm back
[07:21] <juano__> OrangeOrange: nope, its a dir
[07:21] <ikonia> quaal: ahhhh so your attitude still stinks. I meant are you going to be nice and just comply with my polite request of watching your language
[07:21] <nanomad> k
[07:21] <cables> nanomad, #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <AlexC_> nanomad: Feisty is in heavy development, expect breakages - if you want a stable system use Edgy or Dapper, and #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <ikonia> I didn't mean you'd been forced to apologies, but I just asked you politly to watch your language
[07:22] <andre> I'm having a problem with the Nvidia drivers from the restricted repo... when I reboot, they don't work anymore...
[07:22] <nanomad> AlexC_, no poblems....i came from debian sid
[07:22] <ikonia> andre define won't work
[07:22] <swanfl> need the entry in sources.list for amarok 1.4.5
[07:22] <AlexC_> ikonia: haha, I was just about to say the exact same thign!
[07:22] <pradeep> Nitro, sorry .. If you don't mind can you post it again?
[07:22] <duckx0r> how can I map a domain name to a specific IP address?
[07:23] <andre> ikonia by won't I mean X won't load and I have to switch to the "nv" driver
[07:23] <Yodude> cables: if i install my apps on /usr/local will evry user be able to open them?
[07:23] <AlexC_> !dns | duckx0r
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <ikonia> andre have you looked at the xorg logs  ?
[07:23] <Yodude> i want thm to be avaiulable for all
[07:23] <pradeep> oops, too late
[07:23] <andre> ikonia...
[07:23] <soundray> duckx0r: you can only map a hostname to an IP address
[07:23] <andre> ikonia... no
[07:23] <ikonia> duckx0r: you need a dns config
[07:23] <OrangeOrange> juano__: wat should i do then?
[07:23] <hotti> how to repair nvidia drivers after kernel-upgrade?
[07:23] <OrangeOrange> juano__: delete folders?
[07:23] <hotti> pls anyone
[07:23] <nofxx> Jowi_n1: damn.... nothing there too...... only folders
[07:23] <ikonia> andre I suggest you check the logs
[07:23] <HymnToLife> andre, there was a kernel upgrade recently, did you upgrade your restricted-modules as well ?
[07:23] <nanomad> duckdown, /etc/hosts ?
[07:23] <ikonia> while using nvidia - not nv
[07:24] <andre> ikonia... want me to nopaste.info them to you?
[07:24] <lordkeiden> soundray: thanks
[07:24] <andre> hymnToLife: I installed the drivers today
[07:24] <nofxx> Jowi_n1: and applications defaults...... jusst the keyboard I 'll be happy.....   set a default keybpoard for all new users
[07:24] <juano__> OrangeOrange: mm no, i was checking to see if you had duplicated files in there, but seems not
[07:24] <salotti> nofxx teste
[07:24] <duckx0r> ikonia, where do I get this DNS config from?
[07:24] <ikonia> andre no thanks, just look through the logs yourself and get a rough idea
[07:24] <juano__> OrangeOrange: let me see
[07:24] <juano__> OrangeOrange: sec
[07:24] <soundray> lordkeiden: did you find out what set your iptables the other day?
[07:24] <ikonia> duckx0r: your ISP normally hosts DNS
[07:24] <Yodude> does anybody know the best location to install apps?
[07:24] <andre> ikonia: where are the logs?
[07:24] <Yodude> i want them accesible by everyone
[07:24] <HymnToLife> Yodude, which apps ?
[07:25] <ikonia> andre /var/log/X.0.log
[07:25] <Yodude> like maybe thunderbird
[07:25] <ikonia> xorg.0.log
[07:25] <duckx0r> ikonia, yes I am using my ISPs DNS right now, but I want to override something because my domain hasn't propagated yet
[07:25] <Yodude> Google earth
[07:25] <yell0w> Yodude, make a separate partition for it ?
[07:25] <ikonia> duckx0r: you can't
[07:25] <duckx0r> ikonia, there's gotta be a way. you can do it in windows...
[07:25] <jexdawg> i have a microsoft wireless mouse + keyboard combo (and i'm using ubuntu... wtf?) and i'd like to install the drivers. i haven't even tried wine yet, so this isn't really a support issue, just an "is it possible?" issue. basically i'd like to use some of the keys and the scrollwheel on my keyboard and the back/forth buttons on my mouse. can wine do this?
[07:25] <AmaroqWolf> Yodude, in /etc ?
[07:25] <ikonia> duckx0r: no you can't
[07:25] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: please don't
[07:25] <duckx0r> ikonia, i've done it before.
[07:26] <yell0w> AmaroqWolf, /etc is just for configs files
[07:26] <untung> hello
[07:26] <Yodude> i was thinking in /Opt
[07:26] <HymnToLife> Yodude, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[07:26] <lordkeiden> soundray: yeah....i didnt know it, and still dont know how, but firehol got installed and was running. killed it and everything was fine! newbie mistake....
[07:26] <yommb> silly question perhaps, but can a scanner be shared via samba ?
[07:26] <ikonia> duckx0r: you can only use another dns service or use /etc/hosts
[07:26] <madar> anyone else dealing with  nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9742 after an upgrade?
[07:26] <ikonia> duckx0r: thats your only option
[07:26] <soundray> lordkeiden: well done
[07:26] <drphx> Hello.  I'm trying to install 6.10 on a Sony Vaio laptop from the PCMCIA CD-ROM drive and installation is stopping at a BusyBox prompt with an error -- '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off' and then a '(initframfs)' prompt.  any suggestsions?
[07:26] <untung> is that posible to encript the CD ROM data?
[07:26] <andre> ikonia: I'm no expert at reading this... I don't know what to tell you...
[07:26] <duckx0r> ikonia, yes /etc/hosts that's what i'm looking for
[07:27] <yell0w> Yodude, /opt is good, the ubuntu  firefox 2 instllation tutorial use /opt
[07:27] <AmaroqWolf> soundray, yell0w, where is a good place then? :P I've been wondering the same thing, because I'm curious about making a fun game demo I found into a .deb package.
[07:27] <HymnToLife> Yodude, unless I'm mistaken... do you want to install the Thunderbird build from mozilla.com ?
[07:27] <crazy_penguin> good night!
[07:27] <untung> i want to burn a cd data  and put encription so it can be read if it has key
[07:27] <juano__> OrangeOrange: mm i think i found a duplicated entry
[07:27] <Yodude> HymnToLife: yes
[07:27] <ikonia> andre look for lines starting with EE
[07:27] <OrangeOrange> juano__: cool
[07:27] <nofxx> How to change the default keyboard layout for new users????
[07:27] <juano__> try substituting your sources.list for this one
[07:27] <HymnToLife> Yodude, then /opt is the right place
[07:27] <juano__> OrangeOrange: sec
[07:27] <yell0w> Yodude, AmaroqWolf, /opt is good, but me personally i used a separate partition for things i install manually
[07:27] <ant1matter> anyone had success pairing with a bluetooth headset?
[07:28] <HymnToLife> and then symlink the executable to somewhere in your $PATH, usually /usr/local/bin
[07:28] <andre> ikonia: unable to load "nvidia"
[07:28] <ikonia> andre ok - so that normally means the nvidia kernel driver is missing or not loaded
[07:28] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: look, this is really unacceptable behaviour. If you don't know the proper answer to a question that someone is asking here, then DON'T ANSWER IT
[07:28] <andre> ikonia... but synaptic tells me otherwise
[07:29] <luis>  hola estoy haciendo un manual de ubuntu 6.10, el problema es que quiero capturar la barra de herramientas para mostrar lo que tiene el menu de aplicaciones y no puedo capturarla, las otras pantallas es facil pero esto me gano, alguien puede ayudar
[07:29] <soundray> !es | luis
[07:29] <ubotu> luis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:29] <ikonia> andre check the modules there
[07:29] <andre> ikonia: modules where?
[07:29] <luis> nadi sabe esto
[07:29] <jexdawg> how long did you guys use linux/ubuntu before you started to feel like it was your true OS and you were truly comfortable... maybe not an expert, but to the point where you were just... content with it?
[07:29] <ikonia> andre do an lsmod and see if nvidia is loaded
[07:30] <andre> ikonia: you'll have to give me the exact command :$... sorry
[07:30] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: alright. I assumed it was /etc because I looked there once and saw folders with names on them of all of the apps I had.
[07:30] <ikonia> I've just given you the exact command
[07:30] <ikonia> ls mod
[07:30] <ikonia> lsmod
[07:30] <Yodude> hey when i want to install thunderbird.tar.gz to /opt
[07:30] <ikonia> why do you want to use the tar file
[07:31] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: if someone had followed their advice, they could have wrecked their system to the point that it would have required a reinstallation.
[07:31] <shatrat> Yodude, why, it's in the repositories
[07:31] <soundray> s/their/your
[07:31] <Yodude> i get this message: You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/opt"
[07:31] <ikonia> Yodude: you don't have permission
[07:31] <mc44> Yodude: why dont you install it from the repositories?
[07:31] <ikonia> Yodude: why do you want to use the tar file  ?
[07:31] <andre> ikonia:  the only thing resembling nvidia in there is :sata_nv
[07:31] <Yodude> yes but i already download the tar.gz
[07:31] <shatrat> Yodude, well undownload it
[07:31] <juano__> OrangeOrange: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5290/
[07:31] <ikonia> andre ok - so "modprobe nvidia"
[07:31] <juano__> OrangeOrange: try that for your sources.list
[07:31] <unop> Yodude,  sudo that command
[07:31] <Yodude> because i already downloaded it and my connection is slow i don't want to download it again
[07:32] <shatrat> Yodude, sudo apt-get install thunderbird, or maybe mozilla-thunderbird
[07:32] <ikonia> Yodude: I would advise STRONGLY against doing that
[07:32] <Yodude> i'm extracting it using the graphical extractor
[07:32] <Yodude> not a command
[07:32] <juano__> OrangeOrange: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace the contents, then do sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <ikonia> Yodude: use apt
[07:32] <ikonia> please
[07:32] <juano__> OrangeOrange: i found the universe repo from the same dir repeated
[07:32] <andre> ikonia: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[07:32] <juano__> OrangeOrange: might work
[07:32] <unop> Yodude,  then launch the GUI extractor as superuser
[07:32] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: okay. I know better now, about the /etc thing anyway. I always try not to help someone unless I'm confidant that I know the answer, but I was wrong this time.
[07:32] <ikonia> andre ok - so nvidia is not installed
[07:32] <Yodude> unop: how do i lunch it as a superuser
[07:32] <andre> *sigh*
[07:33] <ikonia> Yodude: please please please - use apt
[07:33] <mc44> Yodude: look, you are likely to break things unless you use the version from the repository
[07:33] <Yodude> ( btw i won't download unbless from apt anymore i promise:))
[07:33] <vlt|home> Hello. When I connect to from ubuntu's UTF-8 shell via ssh to an ISO-8859-15 Debian there are some chars not displayed properly. What do I have to do on the client (or on the server) to avoid this?
[07:33] <andre> ikonia: ok let me uninstall what is installed and reinstall
[07:33] <robinQuivers> okay hmmm total linux newb here... looking for GRUB help i think. i managed to navigate the filesystem and found the grub menu.lst which im guessing is my boot load. i would like to make the DEFAULT windows xp instead of ubuntu. how?
[07:33] <towsonu2003> have stupid question: how do you see whether you have 3D working?
[07:33] <unop> Yodude,  well, what is the name of it?
[07:33] <ikonia> andre a wise choice
[07:33] <jexdawg> towsonu, glxinfo in terminal might tell you
[07:33] <unop> Yodude,  file-roller?
[07:33] <Yodude> file roller
[07:33] <Yodude> yes
[07:34] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: okay, I'm glad you didn't just fool around or mislead someone intentionally.
[07:34] <unop> Yodude,  ALT+F2 .. gksudo file-roller
[07:34] <shatrat> Yodude, btw, I just looked it up, the package you want is "mozilla-thunderbird"
[07:34] <andre> ikonia: ok reinstalled,  I'm now going to change my xorg.conf to say "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[07:34] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: Count the menu entries (start with 0) and change the "default 0" to XP's number.
[07:34] <AmaroqWolf> towsonu, glxinfo | grep direct
[07:34] <ikonia> andre don't forget to reboot
[07:34] <OrangeOrange> juano: replace how?
[07:34] <andre> ikonia: first or after?
[07:34] <ikonia> first
[07:34] <wiseelben> hi, sound is suddenly not working. I have no idea what caused it, most likely an update. Any ideas why?
[07:34] <robinQuivers> vlt|home: okay looking at that now...
[07:34] <mc44> Yodude: you will save far more time installing it from apt and downloading it again than you will if you compile it yourself
[07:34] <towsonu2003> AmaroqWolf, ah so direct rendering = 3d?
[07:35] <AmaroqWolf> I believe so
[07:35] <peace-keeper> lol
[07:35] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: When you count don't forget to include the section separators ;-)
[07:35] <Yodude> ?
[07:35] <AmaroqWolf> It's hardward acceleration anyway
[07:35] <AmaroqWolf> *hardware
[07:35] <towsonu2003> jexdawg, it says Tungsten Graphics although I have Ati Radeon Mobility 9000 with the open source drivers. is that normal?
[07:35] <unop> mc44,  i believe the package you download as a tar.gz from mozilla is a binary package
[07:35] <andre> ikonia: rebooting brb
[07:35] <Yodude> why should i compile?
[07:35] <Yodude> it already contains the folders and files of the installed version
[07:35] <Yodude> not code
[07:35] <mc44> unop: ah, sorry
[07:36] <funkja> is there a way to ignore an update so it won't notify me about it anymore but when the next update comes it will tell me?
[07:36] <unop> Yodude, yea, its a binary package
[07:36] <ikonia> Yodude: do NOT compile
[07:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> Hey guys good afternoon.  I have a problem with my sound.  For some reason its skipping when I play a movie or mp3.  Any suggestions?
[07:36] <POVaddct> damn marvell wlan cards
[07:36] <ikonia> Yodude: apt-get mozilla-thunderbird - its will do it all for you
[07:36] <bart_> Apache + WebDAV + Antivirus , does anyone have a sortlike setup ?
[07:36] <mc44> unop: but presumably the depedencies may well be broken
[07:36] <shatrat> Yodude, it still isnt as good as having a ubuntu specific package which will automatically recieve security updates
[07:36] <ikonia> bart_: why would you run antivirus with apache ?
[07:36] <Yodude> yes but i told you now my connection is barely 3KB so...
[07:36] <Yodude> i guess i'll wait till tomorrow
[07:36] <AmaroqWolf> towsunu2003, I believe direct renduring is 3D, but I'm not sure. I'm slightly new at this myself, but I think if you've got direct renduring enabled and your card is capable of 3D, it should work. :P
[07:37] <towsonu2003> thanks :)
[07:37] <robinQuivers> vlt|home: okay i didnt even see that default 0, i tried changing it to 3 but the file is read only and doesnt seem to want to save. i was doing this in the gui so when i right clicked it seems it belongs to root and i cant change it. i am unfamiliar with shell editing... can you point me to steps?
[07:37] <savvas> i have just updated to the new kernel.. and the x desktop won't load, something about the nvidia module, it found the screen, but the module doesn't work. any help?
[07:37] <unop> mc44,  well, he'll find out soon enough if thats the case :)
[07:37] <SanguineAnomaly> :X
[07:38] <SanguineAnomaly> silly comman
[07:38] <SanguineAnomaly> d
[07:38] <andre_> ikonia: I rebooted fine, I'm gonna switch to "nvidia" now
[07:38] <bart_> ikonia : because i want to scan file uploads and downloads that happen throught the webdav protocol
[07:38] <Thug-N-Me> how do i enable nautilus Microsoft Windows compatibility cD ?
[07:38] <Yodude> ok but hey guys you haven't answered a question:
[07:38] <ikonia> bart_: I see - thank you
[07:38] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: Open a shell, type "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[07:38] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: "sudo" means "do as root"
[07:38] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: "nano" is an editor.
[07:38] <Yodude> how can i update a single app ( like Firefox ) without downloading the whole of it again?
[07:38] <robinQuivers> k
[07:39] <wiseelben> AmaroqWolf, towsunu2003, direct rendering is not "3d." It gives applications to display 3d stuff faster because it allows aps to directly give data and commands to hardware (video card).
[07:39] <robinQuivers> opening up accessories > terminal
[07:39] <andre_> ikonia: I'll wait for your OK before I reboot
[07:39] <robinQuivers> ty ill follow your instructions and let you know.
[07:39] <peace-keeper> is nano more fashionable nowadays than vi ?
[07:39] <AmaroqWolf> wideelben: ah, thank you
[07:39] <ikonia> andre please do
[07:39] <Yodude> cuz i noticed that by selecting firefox only updates in update manager i got 8.9Mb!
[07:39] <boredandblogging> is nano like pico?
[07:39] <wiseelben> Yodude - you would have to download the whole app if you want to update
[07:40] <unop> boredandblogging,  very similar
[07:40] <Psy> hey guys, ubuntu has detected my wlan0 connection and shows the signal strength as very good but ti still says disconnected - any ideas?
[07:40] <boredandblogging> then nano sucks
[07:40] <wiseelben> peace-keeper - nano and vi are two totally different things
[07:40] <peace-keeper> no, they are both editors
[07:40] <savvas> the x desktop won't load after updating to the new kernel. anyone knows how to fix this?
[07:40] <robinQuivers> vlt|home: whats the command to save a file in nano.... ctrl^o = write out??
[07:40] <peace-keeper> i miss the times when that stupid "sudo" was not all around
[07:40] <Yodude> wiseelben: man why?! in windows it's just the added code
[07:41] <unop> boredandblogging,  errm, thats some conclusion you arrive at :) but no, pico is forked off from nano (i believe) and has more in terms of functionality
[07:41] <jpjacobs> savvas, you ccan try apting the right restricted modules, and nvidia-kernel. (use aptitude, it's nice)
[07:41] <ikonia> Yodude: thats because windows is 1 platform - linux is<PHONE_NUMBER> platforms
[07:42] <Yodude> dam
[07:42] <wiseelben> Yodude - no it's not. It total depends on the application. If the app (lets say firefox) allows you to update only part of it, then it is a featuire that the firefox developrs put in. I'm not sure if firefox has that feature though.
[07:42] <savvas> jpjacobs: do you know which restricted module is it? :\
[07:42] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: ctrl+o works or F2
[07:42] <robinQuivers> anyone... ive opened a file in nano in the shell. how do i save the changes... ctrl+0?
[07:42] <robinQuivers> okay ty vlt|home
[07:42] <Yodude> man i'm getting more and more walls between me and linux
[07:42] <Psy> is there a command to make a connection connect, my wlan and lan connection show as disconnected and are both enabled?
[07:42] <boredandblogging> unop, hah, actually, pico was very helpful when I was learning solaris and needed to edit files, but eventually I learned enough of vi to ditch it like a bad date
[07:42] <Yodude> my connection is too slow it's only 7KB per second download
[07:42] <jpjacobs> savvas, it's the one with the same version number as your kernel
[07:42] <soundray> unop: no, nano was written as a clone of pico because pico is non-free in the sense of free speech
[07:42] <peace-keeper> real men edit config files with ms word
[07:42] <Yodude> i can't download like 10MB everyday!
[07:42] <jbroome> wussy
[07:42] <savvas> jpjacobs: ok i'm going to try it
[07:43] <ikonia> Yodude: well that won't solve anything with downloading the binary - you still have to download the whole thing, and its not every day - its quite rare
[07:43] <unop> wiseelben, well, its like windows update -- you dont download the entire windows OS.. just bits of it at a time .. but then again, it depends on the particular firefox update
[07:43] <jexdawg> i've installed the w32 codecs and now, randomly, even my .movs won't play (along with everything else).. damn
[07:43] <eztk> did anyone find their Nvidia support died after the software update to ....10 ...11
[07:43] <robinQuivers> vlt|home:  okay good! thanks a ton that worked it seems. ill ultimately know on boot i suppose but yea. ty
[07:43] <mc44> jexdawg: try vlc or mplayer
[07:43] <peace-keeper> i have nvidia and its still working
[07:43] <eztk> it might work now though. helper-scripts seemed to download and install now
[07:43] <OrangeOrange> juano__: wat i replace?
[07:43] <unop> soundray,  ok, i stand corrected -- i know little about pico or nano
[07:43] <eztk> 'wb' module went missing
[07:44] <andre_> ikonia: I'm having the exact same darn probelm...
[07:44] <andre_> ikonia: so mad...
[07:44] <peace-keeper> amazingly i havent had any problems with ubuntu for >1 week
[07:44] <jexdawg> which do you recommend? and if i do, will i need totem, or should i uninstall it?
[07:44] <FantasticFoo> i need to lower the mouse pointer acceleration on my laptop trackpad, but i can't seem to figure out how
[07:44] <eztk> so i switched to older .i386 .10 kernel (dont know where that came from) in grub, and now nvidia works again
[07:44] <ikonia> andre ok - so modprove nvidia
[07:44] <eztk> must be a frustrating problems for newbie
[07:44] <mc44> jexdawg: you dont need to uninstall it. I would recommend vlc
[07:44] <andre_> ikonia: modprove nvidia no such command
[07:45] <xratex> hihi
[07:45] <ikonia> modprobe nvidia sorry
[07:45] <Yodude> ikonia: you know, if i had a decent connection, ubuntu would be like the ALL-GOD-CHOSEN-PERFECT operating system for me
[07:45] <FantasticFoo> the "mouse" preferences dialog can't seem to change acceleration
[07:45] <soundray> FantasticFoo: System-Preferences-Mouse-Motion
[07:45] <jexdawg> fantasticfoo ... simple, but - system -> preferences -> mouse
[07:45] <jexdawg> oh. nvm then.
[07:45] <amonkey_> how can i tell if i have vt or emt64? i can't find a good list/test
[07:45] <unop> boredandblogging,  seems pico is to nano as vi is to vim
[07:45] <ikonia> Yodude: thats part of the deal though
[07:45] <xratex> how was the command to see if my 3D driver is working?
[07:45] <andre_> ikonia: same thing
[07:45] <Yodude> on one side it make things SO easy with a good connection
[07:45] <ikonia> andre show me the error again please
[07:45] <ikonia> ahhhh wait hang on
[07:45] <soundray> Yodude: then why are you trying to wreck it by installing non-ubuntu packaged software?
[07:45] <boredandblogging> unop, good analogy, yo uare probably right
[07:45] <FantasticFoo> the mouse moves WAY too fast. i really need to slow it down
[07:45] <_chm0d_> i have skipping in my sound can anyone suggest a remedy?  I have searched the internet but really have found nothing.
[07:45] <ikonia> andre have you just done a kernel update
[07:45] <soundray> FantasticFoo: System-Preferences-Mouse-Motion
[07:45] <Yodude> on the other side it can make the OS suck
[07:45] <andre_> ikonia: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[07:46] <ikonia> Yodude: yup
[07:46] <jexdawg> fantasticfoo, did you go to the motion tab in mouse preferences? it has the Acceleration option right there and it works for me
[07:46] <Thug-N-Me> nautilus its crashing when i try to burn a dvd
[07:46] <andre_> ikonia: no.. I just now installed the driver.
[07:46] <dimeotane> FantasticFoo: have you changed your xorg.conf settings ?
[07:46] <andre_> Ikonia: if we can't fix this I'm gonna have to format, reinstall
[07:46] <ikonia> andre no, I mean have you recently moved to the .11 kernel
[07:46] <almi1> im sitting on ubuntu and using fluxbox and the resolution is 800x600, how do i change this?
[07:46] <ikonia> andre thats not going to help
[07:46] <dimeotane> or tried the system -->preferences-->mouse
[07:47] <andre_> ikonia: yes yesterday I moved to .11
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> jexdawg: on a laptop trackpad?
[07:47] <dimeotane> on my laptop i need to change the xorg.conf settings to get the trackpad to work
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> dimeotane: no i haven't
[07:47] <ikonia> andre ok - now we are getting somewhere
[07:47] <n1zzh> look in /lib/modules/ for the older kernel. I'd bet there is an earlier kernel mods directory, and that copying the .ko (as root) will make the driver work.
[07:47] <Thug-N-Me> no one able to help ? getting rid of the  icrosoft Windows compatibility  ?
[07:47] <dimeotane> the mouse settings only worked on the usb mouse
[07:47] <ikonia> andre swap back to .10 in the grub boot menu and I'll bet money it works
[07:47] <andre_> ikonia: I reinstalled yesterday, updated to .11 and installed driver today
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> dimeotane: what did you change/
[07:47] <unop> almi1, did you have another WM that had the right resolutions?
[07:47] <jexdawg> fantasticfoo, my bad. thought you were on a desktop. sorry.
[07:47] <andre_> ikonia: do the drivers not work for anyone in .11?
[07:47] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows how to get WPA with rt2500 and Knetworkmanager to work? It sees the network and all, but the dropdown menu doesn't show WPA
[07:47] <Littlegator> quick question: Can you resize icons, and if so, how?
[07:48] <almi1> unop: WM?
[07:48] <ikonia> andre I don't think they have been updated
[07:48] <radioaktivstorm> hello, anyone versed in the *highly descriptive* language of xp blue screen errors? my friends XP box returns a string of lovely numbers that have no discernable meaning (thank goodness for live CDs). if not, can someone direct me to a windows help irc channel? thanks
[07:48] <Yodude> i wish i had a better ISP
[07:48] <ikonia> Littlegator: wiki and forum
[07:48] <ikonia> Littlegator: and yes you can resize
[07:48] <andre_> ikonia... dang it.
[07:48] <unop> almi1,  window manager - gnome, kde, etc ?
[07:48] <mc44> radioaktivstorm: ##windows
[07:48] <Borat> Hey Guys, i updated my kernel to 2.7.11 or something like that, and now my beryl/xgl is not working, does anyone know how to fix it?
[07:48] <ikonia> Borat: nvidia card ?
[07:48] <Littlegator> ikonia: it's probably a hotkey that would take all of 7 seconds to type
[07:48] <ikonia> Littlegator:  no its not
[07:48] <radioaktivstorm> thanks, mc44
[07:48] <Borat> ikonia: No, ATI
[07:48] <FantasticFoo> dimeotane: do you remember what you had to edit in your xorg.conf?
[07:48] <ikonia> bu it does take about 10 seconds to do
[07:49] <almi1> i used gnome before flux but i just found out that it was 800x600
[07:49] <depinko> does anyone know some utility that can convert ogg theora to xvid? (or other video format?)
[07:49] <Littlegator> oh, so sorry, it's in the right click menu =.=
[07:49] <ikonia> Littlegator: if you had done research on some of the other questions - you'd get these questions answered in a quick 2 seconds response
[07:49] <unop> almi1,  you'll need to edit your xorg.conf and set the resolution there
[07:49] <unop> !fixres
[07:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:49] <ikonia> Littlegator: is it ?? I never saw that
[07:49] <unop> almi1,  ^^
[07:50] <Littlegator> ikonia: yes, right click > stretch icon
[07:50] <almi1> unop, xorg.conf says that i have support for a lot of resulotions
[07:50] <ikonia> Littlegator: right click on the icon ?
[07:50] <Littlegator> ikonia: yes
[07:50] <Thug-N-Me> no one able to help ? getting rid of the Microsoft Windows compatibility ?
[07:50] <ikonia> Littlegator: aahhhh thats only one icon - you can do it globally
[07:50] <tcpip> !ntfs-3g
[07:50] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:50] <Littlegator> ikonia: oh, well I wanted to resize only one
[07:51] <ikonia> thats perfect then
[07:51] <_chm0d_> grrrr why is ubuntu so finicky on sound
[07:51] <ikonia> didn't know you could do that
[07:51] <Littlegator> ikonia: but if I ever want to do it globally I'll look it up
[07:51] <almi1> unop, isn't there just a litte command to change this? :P
[07:51] <ikonia> Littlegator: good man
[07:51] <Psy> got my wireless connectiont o connect - status idle, but ti can;t ping or be pinged, any help would be apreciated :)
[07:51] <unop> almi1,  for the particular depth you want to use, , you need to set the mode you want to be the first in the list .. as xorg tests them in that order
[07:51] <AmaroqWolf> Littlegator, I think you can just edit the image in your pixmaps dir
[07:52] <styx2005> hi
[07:52] <robinQuivers> okay hmmmm bad. i just ran updates and now my panels and menus are not responding. luckily i had my chat window up here. how can i fix this?
[07:53] <andre_> ikonia: ok I'm on .10,  the drivers do work here...  when do you expect the drivers to be updated for .11?
[07:53] <Yodude> hey is anybody here from Lebanon? i have a question for him
[07:53] <bulmer> robinQuivers: maybe just wait longer..
[07:53] <unop> almi1,  say you use a depth of 24 -- change the Modes directive like this -  Modes     "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ....
[07:53] <Yodude> :)
[07:53] <ikonia> andre I wouldn't imagine it will be long
[07:53] <andre_> ikonia: ok tx
[07:53] <andre_> ikonia: appreciate the help
[07:53] <robinQuivers> bulmer: nothing is working. the computer is mentally silent and ready to do something
[07:53] <ikonia> andre no problem
[07:53] <robinQuivers> nothing is working = cpu and hard drive arent crunching
[07:54] <AmaroqWolf> Youdude, I'm not from lebanon, but I know someone online who is. xD They don't use linux though, if it's a linux question.
[07:54] <unop> Psy,  what can't be pinged?
[07:54] <MFen> anyone know how to make postfix forward based on domain?
[07:54] <AmaroqWolf> Youdude: and they're not online now either.
[07:54] <Psy> unop, the router
[07:54] <MFen> for example, i want<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to forward to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:54] <Thug-N-Me> no one able to help ? getting rid of the Microsoft Windows compatibility ?
[07:54] <almi1> unop, DefaultDepth	24 it says and on that section Modes		"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400"
[07:54] <unop> Psy,  has the wireless interface got an IP address
[07:54] <MFen> (yeah, i know about google apps .. i don't want a separate mailbox)
[07:55] <Thug-N-Me> no one able to help ? getting rid of the Microsoft Windows compatibility ?
[07:55] <robinQuivers> so yea this is definitely a problem. my panels and menus are still not responding. help?
[07:55] <Psy> yep
[07:55] <Psy> it can ping its self
[07:55] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: not when you spam the channel
[07:55] <MFen> note that i already know how to set up forwards.  i want a wildcard forward
[07:55] <Psy> hmm hangon - could it be it's tring to use the wired connection first? *disconnects lan cable
[07:55] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia looks like its the only way i can be seen
[07:55] <MFen><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:55] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: makes you look a fool
[07:55] <Psy> nope still nothing
[07:55] <_chm0d_> im just installing the updates to kernel .11 this ought to be interesting
[07:56] <unop> almi1, hmm, have a look in the wiki, common fixes exist there -- !fixres
[07:56] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia aint no matter ... the fucking Microsoft Windows compatibility its pissing me off
[07:56] <ikonia> language !
[07:56] <ikonia> makes you look even more of a fool
[07:56] <riotkittie> oh! my virgin ears. :o
[07:56] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia ohh stop it
[07:56] <robinQuivers> wow linux is great... ive already crashed it somehow. =-\
[07:56] <PwcrLinux> !language
[07:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:56] <ikonia> just show some respect
[07:56] <unop> Psy,  is the IP address static or via DHCP ?
[07:56] <ikonia> there is no need for bad language
[07:56] <Psy> static
[07:56] <almi1> unop, i'll that one a try, but it's not fluxbox i have to modify its xOrg right?
[07:56] <riotkittie> robinQuivers: err. how did you crash it?
[07:57] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia hell yeah ... you can ignore me if you dont like it .. end of story
[07:57] <robinQuivers> riotkittie: my panels and menus arent responding
[07:57] <robinQuivers> i only have this chat window up
[07:57] <robinQuivers> luckily.
[07:57] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: no, I mean the channel doesn't need to see the language
[07:57] <riotkittie> robinQuivers: ah. GNOME?
[07:57] <robinQuivers> this happened after i ran the updates... just installed ubuntu.
[07:57] <robinQuivers> i guess, yea? gnome isnt responding
[07:57] <unop> almi1,  do you start flux from GDM or using startx ?
[07:57] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia sometimes it does ;)
[07:57] <ikonia> no its doesn't
[07:57] <riotkittie> robinQuivers: if you hit ALT+ F2, can you get a run box?
[07:57] <robinQuivers> no
[07:58] <PwcrLinux> ops is watching for languages, they can banning on you..
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia who are you to tell me what the channel does and what not ?
[07:58] <almi1> unop, i dont know what GDM is but i sure don't use startx
[07:58] <soundray> Which package provides the Print dialog in gnome please?
[07:58] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: no problem, I'll just go and grab an op to ban you
[07:58] <robinQuivers> yea alt + f2 yields nothing
[07:58] <unop> Thug-N-Me,  this channel has kids and women come in too -- just be a little considerate .. it;s easier not to swear , everyone's happy that way
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia if that will make you happy go for it
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> unop fair enough
[07:59] <ikonia> it won't be all you had to say was "yup - sorry about the language"
[07:59] <dimeotane> is there any file archiving & compression formats in ubuntu which support passwords and encryption?  Zip does, but is only 96-bit ... quite insecure
[07:59] <riotkittie> robinQuivers: ok. do this. ALT + CTRL + F1   ... login, type killall gnome-panel   ... then alt+ctrl+f7 back to the desktop. OR restart X all together with ALT + CTRL + BKSPC
[07:59] <Psy> unop, it's static, subnet mask is correct
[07:59] <ikonia> you just had to show a little respect for the channels rules
[07:59] <unop> Psy,  ahh, but is the gateway correct tho?
[07:59] <juano__> Thug-N-Me: watch the language in here
[07:59] <Psy> could it be a routing problem, if the connection is showing as active?
[07:59] <robinQuivers> riotkittie: okay hmmm i hope i dont lose this chat window
[07:59] <Psy> yep, gateway is fine
[07:59] <davide> somebody know how to configure a dlink 650+ on ubuntu 6.06?
[07:59] <Psy> although
[08:00] <Psy> it's nto showing gateway under ifconfig
[08:00] <unop> Psy, ifconfig doesnt list it -- you need  route -n  for that
[08:00] <riotkittie> dlink 650?      what do you need to configure, davide ?
[08:00] <juano__> Psy: type route
[08:00] <Thug-N-Me> juano__ how many times have you seen me swearing  ?
[08:00] <juano__> Psy: you should add your router to the routing table
[08:00] <ikonia> once
[08:00] <davide> it doesn't work riotkittie
[08:00] <Psy> dest <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:00] <AmaroqWolf> tokj: lol, BUFH.
[08:01] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia i wasnt talking to you
[08:01] <ikonia> just responding
[08:01] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia no need to
[08:01] <robinQuivers> heh... okay i ran alt+ctrl+backspace and lots all my windows but now im back in and ubuntu informed me i needed to restart to make the updates work fully. thanks :)
[08:01] <unop> Psy,  and <IP_ADDRESS> is the address of your router, right?
[08:01] <Psy> yep
[08:01] <juano__> Thug-N-Me: i saw you swear just a minute ago, just be cool man, no need to swear in here
[08:01] <riotkittie> davide: is it a wireless card ?
[08:01] <unop> Psy,  can i ask why you arent using DHCP ?
[08:01] <Thug-N-Me> juano__ yeah no problem
[08:02] <Psy> too many other systems
[08:02] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: dude - thank you, thats all I wanted, just to see it was an oversite
[08:02] <davide> yes, but it seems it doesn't work. there is no light
[08:02] <Psy> need to keep the server on the same ip
[08:02] <alsa> need help reinstalling grub in rescue mode , from the live dvd installation
[08:02] <Psy> and the media centre
[08:02] <Psy> and the machines the media centre looks at for media
[08:02] <Psy> etc
[08:02] <unop> Psy,  eh? how many other systems ?
[08:02] <juano__> Thug-N-Me: thanks , its just a channel rule
[08:02] <pbureau> !enter | Psy
[08:02] <ubotu> Psy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:02] <Psy> the others are all windows
[08:02] <Thug-N-Me> no problem at all man
[08:03] <Psy> 13 other machines on the netowrk - they're working fine
[08:03] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: now lets sort out your windows compatability, do you want to explain the problem
[08:03] <Psy> sorry ubotu
[08:03] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia i would like to enable it
[08:03] <unop> Psy,  but if you configure the DHCP server right, you can ensure that the server always gets the same IP address .. and if its a server, its quite likely to relinquish the lease .. so i dont see that as much of an issue
[08:03] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: at what level ? disk access I assume ?
[08:03] <juano__> Psy: whats the IP of the machine with trouble ?
[08:03] <Psy> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:03] <pockito> hi... i changed my hw on my ubuntu box. but when restarting the graphic device is not recognized/detected.. how do i tell ubuntu to redetect my hw?
[08:03] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia what do you mean at what level ?
[08:04] <ikonia> pockito: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:04] <Psy> unop, i know it an be done - but my dad prefers it static - not much i can do there :)
[08:04] <pockito> ok. ill try that
[08:04] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: could you define what your want in terms of compatability
[08:04] <juano__> Psy: you should try in that machine a sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> ---> if this is the IP of the router
[08:04] <davide> there is any program I should use in order to configure the d-link 650+ wireless card?
[08:04] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: eg: access the disk, etc
[08:04] <unop> Psy,  anyway .. for the sakes of troubleshooting this .. try DHCP out.. you can always revert back if it's successful
[08:04] <riotkittie> davide: ok, i am super stupid when it comes to wireless. i have a 650 as well, and it did work out of teh box but i am merely tapping into other people's unsecured wireless. are you using a router or whatever ?
[08:04] <alsa> any one here can help regarding Grub reinstall in rescue mode
[08:04] <alsa> !grub
[08:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:04] <davide> yes
[08:05] <nalioth> !ohmy | Thug-N-Me
[08:05] <ubotu> Thug-N-Me: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:05] <davide> but I can't setup the wireless card
[08:05] <AmaroqWolf> alsa: sudo apt-get reinstall grub ? *chuckles*
[08:05] <Psy> juano__, i got SIACADDRT: File exists
[08:05] <juano__> Psy: also a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart to ensure changes are applying
[08:05] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia no clue what you are talking about .. i try to burn a dvd and i get the warning about the windows compatability not being able to write the disk and stuff
[08:05] <davide> I read it was automatic during the ubuntu installation but...
[08:05] <Psy> unop - that would involve taking the network down - not an option unfortunately :(
[08:05] <riotkittie> davide: you shouldnt need to set the card up.  in it listed when you type lspci ?
[08:05] <unop> Psy,  you dont need to add a new route -- as the same exists already
[08:05] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: ahhh ok. Totally different to what I was thinking
[08:06] <davide> I try now..
[08:06] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: could you get the exact error message for me please
[08:06] <AmaroqWolf> oh wait, *reads that link*
[08:06] <unop> Psy,  taking what network down ?? it's just re-enabling your wireless interface
[08:06] <juano__> Psy: ok, sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> default gw 10.0.061 dev eth0    -----> eth0 can vary actually , you give your device in that part
[08:06] <juano__> Psy: ok, sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> default gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0    -----> forgot the poing before 61
[08:06] <rodrigo> HI all
[08:07] <riotkittie> brb
[08:07] <unop> juano__, the route's already configured tho
[08:07] <davide> it says "02:00.0 Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface
[08:07] <davide> "
[08:07] <alsa> need help reinstalling grub in rescue mode , from the live dvd installation
[08:07] <juano__> unop: ok, sometimes that helps though , works for me
[08:07] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia not really because not i lost 2 blank dvd already trying to write the same files again i will lost another one
[08:08] <juano__> alsa:
[08:08] <juano__> alsa: sure
[08:08] <juano__> alsa: are you on livecd now ?
[08:08] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: ahhh, thats a drag. Its hard to work out whats its complaining about without the exact message. You may want to check the forums though and see if anything rings any bells
[08:08] <FantasticFoo> can anybody please help me get the motion preferences to affect my laptop trackpad?
[08:09] <Shaffox> how can i put a shortcut to a program ?
[08:09] <alsa> yeah
[08:09] <dabaR_> Shaffox: it is called a launcher
[08:09] <unop> juano__,  well, he cant ping the gw at <IP_ADDRESS>, so it's unlikely to be the default route
[08:09] <Littlegator> I'm having trouble customizing usplash and the ubuntu wiki/provided guide aren't helping
[08:09] <Audimage> I just installed Unreal Tournament 2004, and i cannot figure out how to execute it
[08:09] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia it tries to rename the files .. so that it can be readed in windows too ... like filnename.something!.  you get me all this dots and ! are not allowed in windows
[08:09] <grimboy> FantasticFoo,What model is your laptop?
[08:10] <Shaffox> dabaR_: where can i find it ?
[08:10] <juano__> unop: ahh, he on wifi ?
[08:10] <apecat> Audimage: where is it installed?
[08:10] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: have you tried using a different dvd burining application ?
[08:10] <dabaR_> Shaffox: right click on the desktop
[08:10] <unop> juano__,  yes
[08:10] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia no
[08:10] <Psy> that line just rought up a usage: thing
[08:10] <Audimage> apecat, i installed it into the default directory, i didn't pay any attention
[08:10] <grimboy> FantasticFoo, You might already have something under preferences> touchpad.
[08:10] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: inspiron 2200
[08:10] <davide> riotkittie, what I should do then?
[08:10] <Psy> identical to how you put it...
[08:10] <dabaR_> Shaffox: try to do what you think you should be able to do, and it will work.
[08:10] <juano__> unop: his device is ath0 then
[08:10] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: give another one a go
[08:10] <juano__> unop: or something like that
[08:10] <apecat> Audimage: you just need to locate the executable and launch it
[08:10] <juano__> unop: he try iwconfig ?
[08:10] <unop> juano__,  heh, how can you be sure? it could be anything
[08:10] <amonbish> sup
[08:10] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: naw, nothing like that
[08:11] <Audimage> apecat, i know...however, i can't find it
[08:11] <PwcrLinux> Oh boy, demuxer missing on xgine..
[08:11] <AmaroqWolf> audimage, if you installed it under wine, it'll be somewhere in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[08:11] <juano__> unop: well it mostly is the default, if thats the only card in the PC
[08:11] <dhorn> anyone have the time to quickly help me with drivers?
[08:11] <grimboy> FantasticFoo, Have you turned on the extra repos?
[08:11] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: yes.
[08:11] <apecat> Audimage: try using the command which unr ... and tab complete
[08:11] <Audimage> amaroqwolf, ut2004 runs natively in linux
[08:11] <AmaroqWolf> Audimage: oh. xD okay
[08:11] <ikonia> dhorn: drivers with what
[08:11] <unop> juano__,  well, he says the net-applet detects signal strength .. he hasnt done iwlist scan yet tho .. he should tho
[08:11] <EdgEy> hello, i'm using feisty and suddenly my ethernet has stopped working completely
[08:12] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: why?
[08:12] <grimboy> Fanskapet, apt-get install gsynaptics
[08:12] <juano__> unop: yes your right, he should do it
[08:12] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: ah. thankyou
[08:12] <Flannel> EdgEy: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[08:12] <unop> Psy, what does this return -- iwlist wlan0 scan
[08:12] <EdgEy> i can't access the internet (router) or ping any other machines on the network
[08:12] <amonbish> no
[08:12] <ikonia> EdgEy: fesity is unstable and underdevelopment
[08:12] <Psy> iwlist wlan0 ...?
[08:12] <AmaroqWolf> Audimage: If you know the names of any of the files in it's dir, you could just run a locate on that.
[08:12] <Psy> scan, ok
[08:12] <dhorn> ikonia: i installed unbuntu on my ibm r52 and the video card isn't able to go to the max supported resolution of 1400x1200
[08:12] <dhorn> ikonia: any suggestion?
[08:12] <unop> Psy,  replace wlan0 there with your wireless interface's
[08:12] <Psy> got cell 01 and cell 02
[08:12] <ikonia> dhorn: ati card?
[08:12] <AmaroqWolf> Audimage: sudo updatedb before running the locate though.
[08:12] <apecat> Audimage: as in try to write the biginning letters of the word unreal and see if you get anything with tabcomplete
[08:12] <Psy> one is my network - the other is one i dont know
[08:12] <apecat> in a term
[08:13] <Audimage> apecat, i tried and nothing showed up
[08:13] <LinTux> where can I get info on the next April release of Ubuntu
[08:13] <apecat> k
[08:13] <Psy> mine is wlan0 also
[08:13] <dhorn> ikonia: no, integrated intel, 915GM
[08:13] <ikonia> dhorn: really thats strange
[08:13] <dhorn> ikonia: it only lists one available resolution
[08:13] <gapagos> hi i need help when I boot in knoppix I get no video signal after knoppix starts to load the x window server
[08:14] <dhorn> ikonia: 1280X1024
[08:14] <ikonia> dhorn: what version of ubuntu
[08:14] <dhorn> 6.10
[08:14] <Audimage> i'll just try re-installing it
[08:14] <gapagos> i tried with default options and with fb1280x1024
[08:14] <ikonia> ahhh xorg 7.1.1
[08:14] <ikonia> dhorn: there have been a few problems with xorg 7.1.1 and the i810 driver
[08:14] <dhorn> ikonia: suggestions?
[08:14] <unop> Psy, ok .. how does iwlist fare with your wireless interface? can you show us the result .. use a !pastebin
[08:15] <ikonia> dhorn: check the info on the i810 driver's compatability
[08:15] <Psy> it's another machine unfortunately unop
[08:15] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: sensitivity makes no difference.
[08:15] <jrib> !feisty | LinTux
[08:15] <ubotu> LinTux: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:15] <Psy> ok trying to ping <IP_ADDRESS> and i now get a dest host unreachable from <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:15] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: I also have an i810. What are you having trouble with?
[08:15] <dhorn> ikonia: I'm relatively new to ubuntu and *nix, where would I find that info
[08:15] <ikonia> dhorn: www.x.org
[08:15] <Psy> iwlist found 2 networks from what i can see
[08:15] <gapagos> can anyone help me why I get no video in knoppix after the xwindow server starts to load or is this really ubuntu only?
[08:16] <ikonia> gapagos: this is ubuntu support - not knoppix
[08:16] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: I have the Intel 815GM integrated chipset and I can't get my resolution higher than 1280X1024
[08:16] <dhorn> ikonia: thanks
[08:16] <grimboy> FantasticFoo, No idea then. Do a search of the repos for other config programs and drivers or search the ubuntu wikis for your model.
[08:16] <gapagos> ikonia: would you know if there's a knoppix support chat room? I tried in forums I can't find my issue
[08:17] <davide> thanks riotkittie
[08:17] <apecat>  gapagos: /join #knoppix
[08:17] <ikonia> gapagos: #knoppix
[08:17] <Funtwo> hello can anyone reference me to a good repo for Edgy for use with media and other famous apps?
[08:17] <gapagos> thank you ikonia / apecat
[08:17] <EdgEy> is there anything i should try for getting ethernet to work, noone seems to be alive in #ubuntu+1
[08:17] <_`XeOn_> how do i make a mounted partition ntfs writtable?
[08:17] <EdgEy> _`XeOn_ look into ntfs-3g
[08:17] <ikonia> EdgEy: its alpha software - could be anything
[08:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> well i ran the updates everything seems to be ok so far :)
[08:18] <dabaR_> EdgEy: give it a raise.
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:18] <_`XeOn_> kk
[08:18] <EdgEy> though be aware there is a certain bit of risk in writing to ntfs
[08:18] <apecat> gapagos: if we do recommend any of those, you need to understand that those rpos aren't officially supported
[08:18] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: you there?
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:18] <EdgEy> ikonia, i know that, but where can i start? there's not much i can do at the moment, i'm stuck on feisty unless there is a backport of the newer nvidia drivers
[08:18] <Funtwo> yes i know
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:19] <apecat> sorry, that was to Funtwo
[08:19] <pbureau> buzz off josh
[08:19] <_`XeOn_> !ntfs-3g
[08:19] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:19] <ikonia> joss STOP
[08:19] <LinTux> Ubotu & jrib: Thanks
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jrib: thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <Jawshie> Hi guys :)
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> low and behold my i have no sound now LOL
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> sigh
[08:19] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: oh xD I figured you were thinking along the lines of getting direct draw enabled. I believe you can add more resolutions to the config by messing with x-server's config file. But I don't know about if that card has limits or anything like that, so don't hold me to what I say about that. But you can modify your config file with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Just leave all of the settings the way they are, and modify
[08:19] <AmaroqWolf> the one you need when you get to it. Once again, don't hold me to that. xD We're entering territory I'm not entirely familiar with.
[08:20] <gapagos> another question I have is.... I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS..... could I download Ubuntu 6.10 and install it separately, on another partition, and boot 6,06 OR 6.10?
[08:20] <EdgEy> gapagos yes
[08:20] <assasukasse> could someone tell me what is this error
[08:20] <assasukasse> make: execvp: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic/scripts/gcc-version.sh: denied [: 1: 0400: unexpected operator
[08:20] <Jawshie> Is there an upgerade path for 6.06-6.10?
[08:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> i just dont understand how sound can just quit and ubuntu now doesn't see my audio.  just dont understand
[08:20] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: thanks, I'm looking on x.org now and it looks like there's an issue with my chipset and the xorg driver
[08:20] <gapagos> I,m asking this question because I heard 6.10 is very buggy and i don't want to upgrade but I desesperately want to try Beryl's 3d world lol
[08:20] <Jawshie> upgrade*
[08:20] <Flannel> Jawshie: yep, just normal upgrade
[08:20] <dabaR> assasukasse: did you ask google?
[08:20] <ikonia> assasukasse: what are you trying to build - and why
[08:21] <pbureau> [BTF] Chm0d, checkdmesg or /etc/messages for more info. maybe it quit because of internal error
[08:21] <assasukasse> ikonia i am trying to build ugrab-winmodem with checkinstall
[08:21] <ompaul> Jawshie, yes - as long as you have not installed materials from repos outside of Ubuntu you should be okay
[08:21] <ompaul> !upgrade
[08:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> ill looky thx
[08:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:21] <Jawshie> is there like an apt-get repository thingy for a 3d enviroment?
[08:22] <Flannel> Jawshie: #ubuntu-effects for all that stuff (check the topic)
[08:22] <Jawshie> k thanks
[08:22] <ikonia> Jawshie: yes - search the wiki for beryl
[08:22] <juano__> does anyone know a good .avi to DVD image program _??
[08:22] <birdsixone> What command do I type to view what kernel I have?
[08:23] <Flannel> birdsixone: uname -r
[08:23] <ikonia> birdsixone: uname -a
[08:23] <Yodude> hey when i download stuff from the repository
[08:23] <ikonia> then you can see the arch too
[08:23] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: I know that when I use 1280x1024 on 24 bit color, my monitor gets funny staticky lines on it. I prefer to use 1024x768 anyway, so I've never tried what you're trying. If your graphics are running slow for games and graphic-intensive programs, I do know that that card only supports direct draw in 16 bit color.
[08:23] <JAGFin1> Anyone got experience with KDE Network Manager?
[08:23] <qeed> juano__, you want to make a dvd movie out of an avi?
[08:23] <Yodude> can i save the packages i downloaded on a disk or something?
[08:23] <ikonia> Yodude: its easer to just download and install
[08:23] <dabaR> !anyone > JAGFin1
[08:23] <juano__> qeed: yes
[08:23] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm it says nothing about it
[08:23] <Flannel> Yodude: sure, they're in /var/cache/apt
[08:24] <Yodude> so i can't?
[08:24] <hotsauce> how can i install a bare system without x on a server?
[08:24] <qeed> juano__, i use ffmpeg to encode the avi movie to mpeg
[08:24] <ikonia> Yodude:  you can - but why save them ?
[08:24] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: there's a package available for the 800 and 900 intel chipsets that corrects the resolution error.  I'm trying it now
[08:24] <ompaul> hotlug, download and install the server edition
[08:24] <Flannel> hotsauce: grab the alternate CD, or server CD.
[08:24] <qeed> dvdauthor can create the dvd structure to be burned to the dvd
[08:24] <dabaR> ikonia: they get saved autom..
[08:24] <Littlegator> arghhh
[08:24] <juano__> qeed: are these available in the repos ?
[08:24] <dumbalien> anyone help with hd troubles?
[08:24] <jumpkick> hi, if I do a `uname -m`, I get x86_64...  is there a command that will tell me the name of the packaging arch -> i.e. something to give me 'amd64'?
[08:24] <Yodude> i want to to save time so i can just add them next time
[08:24] <dabaR> !anyone > dumbalien
[08:24] <EdgEy> when i unplug/replug my ethernet cable /var/log/dmesg shows it
[08:24] <qeed> juano__, i think dvdauthor is, not sure about ffmpeg
[08:25] <EdgEy> yet i can't ping other machines
[08:25] <Yodude> c u
[08:25] <ikonia> jumpkick: your runnning amd64
[08:25] <Yodude> thnkx :)
[08:25] <EdgEy> hinking maybe dhcp is the problem ?
[08:25] <ikonia> thats what 86_64 is
[08:25] <juano__> qeed: can you guide me a bit with it ?
[08:25] <juano__> qeed: after i download dvdauthor
[08:25] <gapagos> hey guys, how easy / difficult is Genatoo compared to ubuntu?
[08:25] <dabaR> EdgEy: do you have a proper IP address?
[08:25] <assasukasse> any idea why i keep getting those errors?
[08:25] <juano__> qeed: i got ffmpeg installed yea from repos
[08:25] <Littlegator> I'm having trouble changing my usplash, the guide says to find the directory "usplash-theme-fingerprint.so" but that file doesn't exist
[08:25] <ikonia> gapagos: as differnet /easy/hard as you make it
[08:25] <EdgEy> dabaR it should be assigned by the router
[08:25] <dumbalien> after mounting on livecd it shows files
[08:25] <jumpkick> ikonia: I know, but I need to set amd64 in a makefile, if it's running on an amd64...  but I don't know how to get that from the OS
[08:25] <ikonia> assasukasse: because the package is not compatible with those headers
[08:26] <qeed> juano__, even though i said dvdauthor, i don't use it, since it's a bit complex for me to understand, i use windows to make dvd structure
[08:26] <ikonia> jumpkick: what makefile ?
[08:26] <juano__> qeed: ok dvdauthor is too
[08:26] <dabaR> EdgEy: run ifconfig in a terminal and see whether there is a proper IP address from the router.
[08:26] <assasukasse> ikonia sudo make install works
[08:26] <apecat> gapagos: kind of a bizarre question to ask here, but i'd say it's very diffficult. gentoo is a source based distribution
[08:26] <EdgEy> okay
[08:26] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: okay. Good luck with that. I have never had any use for large res's, so I don't need that. I am curiuos about what package it is though.
[08:26] <ikonia> assasukasse: no it doesn't, because make didn't work
[08:26] <jumpkick> ikonia: a project I'm working on
[08:26] <gapagos> hm, then I'll take for granted that Genatoo is too hard for me
[08:26] <jumpkick> it doesn't matter
[08:26] <qeed> juano__, the flags you need to make an avi to a dvd mpeg movie, is ffmpeg -i <avifile> -target ntsc-dvd(or pal-dvd) -ab 192 output.mpg
[08:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok what do you do when there is nothing in dmesg about my sound?  My sound for some reason just quit
[08:26] <jumpkick> I'll try to google it more
[08:26] <ikonia> jumpkick: if you just give me detail I can help you
[08:26] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: 915resolution is the name of the package
[08:27] <gapagos> if it wasn,t for the atomatix packacge, i probably wouldn't be using Ubuntu :-P
[08:27] <juano__> qeed: let me try it, sec
[08:27] <ompaul> !automatix
[08:27] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:27] <ikonia> gapagos: thats a bad package
[08:27] <Jawshie> Oh do I have to have the Edgy cd to upgrade to it from dapper or can i just use some miracle command line cute
[08:27] <Jawshie> cure
[08:27] <jumpkick> ikonia: I need the shell to return 'amd64' from a command, that's it
[08:27] <ompaul> gapagos, you can't upgrade if you have used that
[08:27] <EdgEy> dabaR - ifconfig shows nothing, ifconfig eth0 shows some info but no IP addresses
[08:27] <apecat> gapagos: gentoo is a very powerful and customizable tool, but do you have all the time, willingness to learn and.. patience it takes to get it running and keeping the system up to date? that's what you've got to ask yourself before you try gentoo on an important machine
[08:27] <ompaul> !nickspam _Chm0d_
[08:27] <dumbalien> hd shows in bios, not in windows, when i mount it on the livecd i can view folders once. after that it fails to open again
[08:27] <ikonia> jumpkick: thats amd64 isn't an arch though
[08:27] <ompaul> !nickspam | _Chm0d_
[08:27] <ubotu> _Chm0d_: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[08:27] <EdgEy> i can't copy/paste since it's on a different machine
[08:27] <tcpip> any similar app like squid??
[08:27] <_Chm0d_> it was a typo jesus
[08:27] <Flannel> Jawshie: sure you can it without a CD, yeah.  It's on that page.  with update manager, or changing your sources.list
[08:27] <gapagos> ikonia why is it a bad package? it worked like a charm for me
[08:27] <HymnToLife> Jawshie, if you have the CD; the best bet would be do to a fresh install
[08:28] <Flannel> !worksforme | gapagos
[08:28] <ubotu> gapagos: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:28] <gapagos> apecat yup I indeed do not have such a patience therefore it's not meant for me lol
[08:28] <jumpkick>  ikonia: *_i386.deb, *_amd64.deb
[08:28] <tcpip> !squid
[08:28] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[08:28] <jumpkick>  ikonia: nevermind
[08:28] <hotsauce> how asinine to tell someone not to change their nick in a channel
[08:28] <ikonia> jumpkick: thats just package names - not an arch
[08:28] <ikonia> jumpkick: I'm interested in helping
[08:28] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: You know what I find odd? Is that my card is listed on IBM's site as an i815, but xorg has it as an i810. I tried to set that config to make it i815, but that broke my x-server. xD I had to figure out how to edit files from a terminal to fix it.
[08:28] <Jawshie> Err is it worth upgrading to edgy?
[08:28] <ikonia> don't give up
[08:28] <juano__> qeed: ok its working
[08:29] <juano__> qeed: its encoding to mpg
[08:29] <ikonia> AmaroqWolf: i810 is the driver name package
[08:29] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: although... I might've mistaken i815 for the series of audio card I'm using.
[08:29] <assasukasse> ikonia how can i know which header is needed, i mean i am using those drivers and they do work, how come they still do if i changed kernel
[08:29] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: oh
[08:29] <juano__> qeed: after that, what do i need to do to make it playable in DVD players ?
[08:29] <jumpkick> ikonia: this is what I needed `dpkg --print-architecture`
[08:29] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: did you see what ikonia said?
[08:29] <qeed> juano__, dvdauthor does that part, but it's way to complex for me to use
[08:29] <jumpkick> now I'm good
[08:29] <ikonia> assasukasse: if you are using these drivers on ubuntu - why are you trying to rebuild
[08:29] <Jowi_n1> AmaroqWolf, i810 covers a whole range of chipsets
[08:29] <dumbalien> mounted hardrive showed files once!! (on livecd) know it denies access !!! any help ??
[08:29] <ikonia> jumpkick: ahhh I see
[08:29] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: so, it's not referencing the actual card, but rather a driver package?
[08:30] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: correct
[08:30] <qeed> juano__, i use this program called dvdauthor from pegasys inc in windows to do that
[08:30] <juano__> qeed: what do you use in windows ?
[08:30] <AmaroqWolf> Okay xD Now I know.
[08:30] <[mg] Zimmerman> nvidia kernel module differs from x module version -- any help folks?
[08:30] <qeed> look above
[08:30] <juano__> qeed: ok, ill try that in windows
[08:30] <assasukasse> ikonia i am gonna update to feisty
[08:30] <apecat> gapagos: well then there you go ;). but it *is* a healthy learning experience, and the documentation and the cummunity support is phenomenal. try it on a secondary machine first. another distro you might want to try to learn stuff is slackware. it's not source based, so it's quicker to install
[08:30] <assasukasse> and i want to try if they rebuild before i do
[08:30] <qeed> juano__, nero vision is good too
[08:30] <ikonia> assasukasse: thats different headers that are probably not supportd
[08:30] <juano__> qeed: i got Nero yea
[08:31] <gapagos> apecat staying too much on my pc is not a healthy experience, for me :-P but thanks for the heads up lol
[08:31] <apecat> gapagos: ;)
[08:31] <juano__> qeed: how much time aprox does it take to encode ?
[08:31] <[mg] Zimmerman> nvidia kernel module differs from x module version -- any help folks?
[08:31] <qeed> juano__, depends how long the movie is
[08:31] <juano__> qeed: its like a 2 hour movie
[08:31] <davee> [mg] Zimmerman: Edgy upgrade broke your nvidia support?
[08:32] <juano__> qeed: its Xvid
[08:32] <qeed> juano__, hmm, well 1.8 GHZ P4 here takes around 4 hours for one pass
[08:32] <assasukasse> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <HymnToLife> [mg] Zimmerman, there was a kernel update today, make sure you have the nvidia module matching the new kernel
[08:32] <juano__> qeed: ok
[08:32] <Wowbagger> Hey, I'm trying to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, but when I click 'Upgrade' I get this error message: "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server."
[08:33] <dumbalien> using livecd. How do i check my hd that i can not access?
[08:33] <juano__> qeed: it would be cool if a % showed up
[08:33] <davee> HymnToLife: The current state of Edgy's kernel, though, is that the kernel proper is newer than linux-restricted-modules
[08:33] <assasukasse> ikonia could you look at this
[08:33] <assasukasse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5299/
[08:33] <davee> HymnToLife: This breaks nvidia and others
[08:33] <yeniklasor> Feisty? Is it newest ubuntu?
[08:34] <bulmer> dumbalien: fdisk -l
[08:34] <unop> !feisty
[08:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <dumbalien> it shows up
[08:34] <EdgEy> is there a way to download the new package lists on one computer, to move to another that doesn't have internet
[08:34] <ompaul> yeniklasor, it is not stable
[08:34] <EdgEy> i need to check what updates are available and then copy hem from another computer to install
[08:34] <dumbalien> i have mounted it, and the files showed up once
[08:34] <yeniklasor> ok thanks
[08:34] <unop> yeniklasor,  it's not released yet -- so it can't be new -- but it will be soon
[08:34] <ikonia> assasukasse: look ok
[08:34] <leo_> is it just me or xchat-gnome from feisty segfault?
[08:34] <yeniklasor> April ;)
[08:34] <AmaroqWolf> I love how in a room full of people knowledgeable about ubuntu, there is no single 'awesome' user who knows everything about everything. There's so many things to know about it, that our knowledges are diverse and we can always help eachother, as the expert in one situation may find himself the inexperianced in another.
[08:35] <hotsauce> heh..ok
[08:35] <juano__> qeed: its going at a 4500.0/kbits/s and and growing
[08:35] <Wowbagger> Hey, I'm trying to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, but when I click 'Upgrade' I get this error message: "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server."
[08:35] <txdv> jeeez im sick of installing ruby and gems on ubuntu
[08:35] <assasukasse> ikonia does it request full kernel tree or just headers? it says tree
[08:35] <ikonia> just headers
[08:35] <Flannel> Wowbagger: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[08:35] <[mg] Zimmerman> Davee: when I the latest nvidia drivers attempt to install they can't pull down a kernel so they compile the oldest legacy one
[08:35] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  it's how everything in the world works, why would it be different in ubuntu? :)
[08:35] <[mg] Zimmerman> Davee: where would I go to get the newest nvidia module
[08:35] <HymnToLife> davee, I'll take your word for it, I'm runing exclusively custom kernels
[08:35] <Wowbagger> thx
[08:35] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: i consider myself an intermiate user who is too lazy to learn everything. that's why i stay with ubuntu and debian ;)
[08:36] <apecat> *intermediate
[08:36] <PwcrLinux> My DVD player still choppy, last checked on DMA still "on" on the hdc. and even demuxer missing
[08:36] <Tox> hi , cud u answer me why net indicator always shows that recieve incoming conection
[08:36] <qeed> juano__, fast cpu :)
[08:36] <Flannel> EdgEy: /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin, I believe those are the only files (Although, that doesnt mean it's right ;)
[08:36] <juano__> qeed: 3.0 GHZ
[08:37] <davee> HymnToLife: Yeah, I'm seeing remarkbly little info about this bug, because anyone with an nvidia card would have got breakage, simply by applying the automatic updates...
[08:37] <apecat> Tox: and you aren't receibing incoming connections?
[08:37] <juano__> qeed: :)
[08:37] <Psy> juano__, i managed to add that route to my routing table - still no ping reply though. any more ideas?
[08:37] <Tox> it recieving ....
[08:37] <_apelsinchoklad_> i cant get the internet-conection work on my old imac.. help me. I'm a linux begginer..
[08:37] <juano__> Psy: did you try a iwlist <dev> scan ?
[08:37] <juano__> Psy try a iwconfig
[08:37] <AmaroqWolf> unop: x3 yeah, but some things are moreso that way than others. Say, a programming language. It isn't so diverse as much as it is simply levels of knowledge. apecat: I consider myself an intermediate user too. But learning more on linux and fixing problems that arise is so fun. Much more interesting than windows. :P
[08:37] <HymnToLife> davee, this is really bad, I'm wondering why a distro as mature as Ubuntu still has this kind of problems
[08:38] <dumbalien> does fdisk -l show up mounted hardrives ????
[08:38] <davee> HymnToLife: *nods*
[08:38] <deLatz> Hi there, my wlan adapter isn't named as wlan0 but instead as eth1 ... gnome network manager doesn't recognise my wireless therefore....
[08:38] <Psy> iwlist wlan0 scan shows me two wireless networks
[08:38] <Tox> only incoming even if there's no conection is active i mean browser other stuff
[08:38] <davee> HymnToLife: Especially, seeing as the symptom is that X just doesn't start.
[08:38] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: yes, it's fun without getting too much like slackware or gentoo :)
[08:38] <Skuller> hey guys...is there any reason for me to switch from Dapper to Edgy?
[08:38] <apecat> not that there's anything wrong with those two distros
[08:38] <mabus> How do i take a package off of hold with dpkg
[08:38] <tcpip> can anyone help me configuring squid
[08:39] <coNP> mabus: I guess dpkg generally ignores holds
[08:39] <juano__> AmaroqWolf: yeah i agree, you learn a lot solving issues
[08:39] <apecat> Skuller: probably not if you need to ask us that question
[08:39] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: *chuckles* From what I hear, it'll be quite some time before I'm good enough to attempt to install gentoo.
[08:39] <Tox> i connected thru some kind of modem it get me cable tv and internet
[08:39] <Flannel> !pin | mabus
[08:39] <ubotu> mabus: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[08:39] <mindstate> is there anyway i can have k3b without having the entire kde desktop environment
[08:39] <HymnToLife> AmaroqWolf, Gentoo is imo less confusing than Slack
[08:40] <Flannel> mindstate: yes, of course.  You do however need the KDE libs.
[08:40] <AmaroqWolf> HymnToLife, wow. There's something worse than gentoo? xD
[08:40] <HymnToLife> especially now, when you don't have to compile everything anymore
[08:40] <hotsauce> slack is on its EOL
[08:40] <_apelsinchoklad_> help somone??
[08:40] <kritical> Skuller, I don't know the official reasons, however they're always upgrading the software between distribution releases... I'd advised upgrading after each major release.. don't wanna get left behind :P
[08:40] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: if you're able to follow documentation there's nothing wrong with trying. chanches are that you'll learn to love it
[08:40] <juano__> Psy: try iwconfig , what does that show ?
[08:40] <Skuller> apecat: will i benefit from the LTS of 6.06 in any way, bcoz that is the only thing that is holding me back from switchin to Edgy (who doesnt want to ave the newer thing?)
[08:40] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: :P I do have an extra computer I could try it on.
[08:40] <mindstate> Flannel: well i installed the whole KDE and when i tried to uninstall it still left a bunch of KDE software ..how can i get rid of it?
[08:40] <Skuller> kritical: thnx....i guess i shud switch then
[08:41] <Psy> juano__ bit rate, essid, frequency etc details for my wlan0 interface
[08:41] <apecat> Skuller: you benefit from it by not needing to upgrade to get security fixes anytime soon
[08:41] <apecat> that's the pooint with lts
[08:41] <HymnToLife> mindstate, psychocats.net has a page about it
[08:41] <juano__> Psy: mm ok
[08:41] <kritical> Skuller, some people have had issues upgrading to edgy, make sure you google it, there's a proper way to do it
[08:41] <HymnToLife> mindstate, next time, use aptitude to install such things :p
[08:41] <Flannel> !upgrade | Skuller, kritical
[08:41] <ubotu> Skuller, kritical: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:41] <juano__> Psy: did you give it an IP ?
[08:41] <mindstate> HymnToLife: i checked that i tried it..and it tried to uninstall a whole lot of stuff that i installed..that isnt kde related
[08:41] <Psy> yup
[08:41] <apecat> Skuller: if you are somebody who just wants it to work right away, why fix something that isn't broken.
[08:42] <_apelsinchoklad_> can someone help me?? ... the internet-connetction wont work on my old imac..
[08:42] <juano__> Psy: also, which netmask did you give it ? , by using class A you should be using <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <HymnToLife> mindstate, I guess you'll just have to manually remove everything you don't want then
[08:42] <Skuller> Flannel: sorry, stupid question but after you rote !upgrade, wich key did u use to put that vertical bar?
[08:42] <Psy> no its using <IP_ADDRESS> - don;t ask em why :)
[08:42] <Psy> thats what the network is set to
[08:42] <K-Rich> i wonder if there is an XDMCP client for windows
[08:42] <juano__> Psy: this is if you are configuring static IP, i suppose you have DHCP enabled on the router
[08:42] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: well you have nothing to loose. except for your time and social life :)
[08:42] <Flannel> Skuller: shift-\ on most keyboards
[08:42] <Psy> no, it's disabled
[08:42] <apecat> but that's the fun of it
[08:42] <mindstate> HymnToLife: thats the problem, i dont what some stuff is called
[08:43] <gilgeai> slt
[08:43] <Flannel> K-Rich: cygwin is probably your best bet
[08:43] <HymnToLife> mindstate, just let it be then, it can't hurt
[08:43] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: xD I've been told it'll take two weeks for an about average smart person to set it up.
[08:43] <Skuller> Flannel: |....nice...thanx
[08:43] <juano__> Psy: mm ok, usually a <IP_ADDRESS> is a 192.168.x.x C class IP
[08:43] <Psy> yeh i know - the network settigns are correct though
[08:43] <Psy> same as the ones im using ont his pc
[08:43] <mindstate> HymnToLife: it'd free up some space :)
[08:44] <juano__> Psy ok
[08:44] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: yes and no, depending how fast your machine can compile stuff, how much stuff that will break, how many first timer mistakes you do etc ;)
[08:44] <gilgeai> Oh excuse my i'm half English ,half French and i speak French ,I speak english and my english is very pool
[08:44] <juano__> Psy: mm try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:44] <juano__> Psy: that aint working right ?
[08:44] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: lol, I see. x3
[08:44] <PwcrLinux> i'll bbl
[08:44] <_apelsinchoklad_> can someone help me?? ... the internet-connetction wont work on my old imac..
[08:44] <HymnToLife> mindstate, you could always open synaptic and spot everything that starts with a k :p
[08:44] <Psy> nope, i get 'FROM <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=n dest host unreachab;e'
[08:44] <mindstate> HymnToLife: yes ill try that lol
[08:44] <mykhul> do you guys all tweak your machines to make the graphics and display stuff sweet and sexy?
[08:45] <gilgeai> oh
[08:45] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: keep in mind that gnome or kde takes something like 8 hours to compile on the athlon xp 2100/512 mb eam+ i'm writing this on
[08:45] <HymnToLife> mykhul, I sometimes do, when I'm bored :p
[08:45] <Simpleton> Hey, on all of the twinview guides it acts as if there is only one device
[08:45] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: whoa.
[08:45] <gilgeai> Do you speak French?
[08:45] <LjL> mykhul, that sounds more like a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:45] <LjL> !fr
[08:45] <ompaul> !fr
[08:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:45] <Simpleton> but on my xorg.conf nvidia's config created two videocard devices, one for each monitor
[08:45] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: what ghz is that?
[08:45] <midmood> Hi, i'm recompiling kernel aided by this guide http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/CompilazioneKernel
[08:45] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: 1.7
[08:46] <juano__> Psy: also one important thing, run sudo dhclient on that machine
[08:46] <_apelsinchoklad_> can someone help me?? ... the internet-connetction wont work on my old imac.. anyone?
[08:46] <EdgEy> hmm
[08:46] <midmood> something isn't working...  can you help me?
[08:46] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: I think my other machine is like, 1 ghz
[08:46] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: so when you try, you may want to stay with lightweight window managers and stuff like that
[08:46] <EdgEy> i am making progress now
[08:46] <EdgEy> i can ping my gateway but nothing past that
[08:46] <HymnToLife> midmood, and the problem is ?
[08:46] <midmood> ah ok
[08:46] <Psy> ok... its doing some stuff...
[08:46] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: my other computer couldn't even boot from the ubuntu CD. xD It would try to mount the filesystem when starting up, and it would get stuck like that.
[08:47] <midmood> HymnToLife, when typing this:  sudo dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.17-11.deb
[08:47] <Flannel> EdgEy: did you ask in #ubuntu+1?  It's a feisty problem, they probably have a concise answer on how to fix it
[08:47] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: well it's not all that tragic if you stay with a clean and minimal system. fluxbox, icewm etc are things people learn to love over time. these window managers are so unbloat that its hard to believe
[08:47] <bthornton> What's the name of ATI's new open-source drivers (open-source version of fglrx)?
[08:47] <midmood> i receive "no file found"
[08:47] <bthornton> "ati" or "radeon"?
[08:47] <_apelsinchoklad_> can someone help me?? ... the internet-connetction wont work on my old imac.
[08:47] <Xk2c> bye
[08:47] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: is it running ubuntu
[08:47] <juano__> Psy: try sudo dhclient3 wlan0  or sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:47] <HymnToLife> midmood, try to tab-complete : sudo dpkg -i linux<tab>
[08:47] <Jowi_n1> !find chcase
[08:47] <HymnToLife> surely you didn't compile a 2.6.17 kernel
[08:47] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: yess.
[08:47] <midmood> HymnToLife, ok, i try and back soon
[08:47] <ubotu> Package/file chcase does not exist in edgy
[08:48] <illriginal> What's a good program to make audio cds?
[08:48] <illriginal> from mp3s
[08:48] <EdgEy> Flannel, yeah, but i think it's nothing wrong with feisty and maybe something i just screwed up myself. there's not many people in the feisty channel, if i use ifconfig to set stuff up manually it's working
[08:48] <juano__> Psy: that could help, we have to enable the dhcp client on that machine if your connecting to a router running DHCP server
[08:48] <Simpleton> Does anyone have twinview working properly?
[08:48] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: how much ram does it have. the ubuntu live cd installer is for machines with 256 megabyte sof ram or more. use the alternate cd for machines with less ram. in fact, i always use the alternate cd. much faster to get the install going
[08:48] <HymnToLife> illriginal, k3b
[08:48] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: does it see the network card at all
[08:48] <bthornton> ubotu radeon
[08:48] <Psy> no it's not using dhcp
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <illriginal> k3b? ok
[08:48] <Psy> it's set up static
[08:48] <bthornton> ubotu ati
[08:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:48] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: I think it has half that ram.
[08:48] <juano__> Psy: oh ok
[08:48] <HymnToLife> illriginal, it needs an extra plugin to handle mp3, you'll fint it in Synaptic too
[08:48] <juano__> Psy: is it to <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:48] <midmood> HymnToLife, Maybe i did confusion, what dir am i supposed to do the command?
[08:49] <illriginal> when i download it, im sure it'll be like k3b plugin yes?
[08:49] <juano__> does iwconfig tell you that ip ?
[08:49] <juano__> Psy: or ifconfig ?
[08:49] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: then i think you won't get the full ddesktop live cd working becouse of the ram. if you want ubuntu on it, you might want xubuntu instead, xfce is leighter
[08:49] <HymnToLife> midmood, hmm actually, I think this was not the right thing or you
[08:49] <Psy> iwconfig doesn't show an ip, if config shows that yes
[08:49] <apecat> *lighter
[08:49] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: yeh.. its strange.. it works whith google if I go in to it whith my computer beside first.. but when I try other sites it wont work
[08:49] <HymnToLife> what do you want a custom kernel for ?
[08:49] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: so you can visit google, but no other sites ?
[08:50] <midmood> yes, I think so, But I'm trying anyway :-)
[08:50] <Psy> oh hang on a second - there is no ip's in ifconfig this time...
[08:50] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: I've always wondered what the difference is between ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu.
[08:50] <midmood> alone i can't, I suppose...
[08:50] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: but you could install ubuntu on it with the alternate installer, which has an easy to use menu driven interface
[08:50] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: yepp
[08:50] <HymnToLife> midmood, why do you think you need a custom kernel ?
[08:50] <juano__> Psy: try sudo ifconfig wlan0 down , then sudo ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up
[08:50] <ikonia> AmaroqWolf: and you never thought to check http://www.ubuntu.com to find out
[08:50] <midmood> cause i have to configure audio for my tvcard
[08:50] <juano__> Psy: i would be using <IP_ADDRESS> for <IP_ADDRESS> but anyway
[08:50] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: thats very strange, alls I can think of is that your dns isn't working and google is cached
[08:50] <midmood> and i need a custom module
[08:51] <HymnToLife> then just build that module
[08:51] <HymnToLife> not the whole kernel :p
[08:51] <Ellixis> Hi all, I have a Dapper Desktop installation CD... does it have a "server install" inside ?
[08:51] <juano__> Psy: since all of them are on <IP_ADDRESS> , just try that one
[08:51] <HymnToLife> Ellixis, no
[08:51] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: those are all the same thing, exept for the default deskto. kubuntu has a customized kde desktop, xubuntu has a customized xfce. you can try either of thsese by installing the packages xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu desktop
[08:51] <Tox> how to check out all active connections ?
[08:51] <apecat> *kubuntu-desktop
[08:51] <Ellixis> HymnToLife: damn it :( I can't install a server with it ?
[08:51] <heydabop> How do I [artition my hard drive in Ubuntu?
[08:51] <heydabop> partition*
[08:51] <Psy> ok it;s back up, it has a ip in ifconfig now
[08:51] <HymnToLife> Ellixis, no, you'll need a Server or Alternate CD
[08:51] <EdgEy> !partitioning
[08:51] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:51] <Psy> still no ping from <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:51] <apecat> Tox: the netstat command
[08:51] <ikonia> heydabop: gparted, fdisk
[08:52] <heydabop> Ok.
[08:52] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: some other sites also works if i go in to them with the computer beside that use os x..
[08:52] <apecat> Tox: you might want to check out the tool netwatch (which has to be run as root)
[08:52] <ompaul> Tox, netstat -an | less
[08:52] <Ellixis> HymnToLife: ok thanks, bye all
[08:52] <midmood> HymnToLife, I followed step by step all the istructions in the tutorial, but, as a newbie user, i moved between dirs whesn something went wrong... I just need to be put back in the right way :-)  please help me
[08:52] <Tox> tnx guys
[08:52] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: what do you mean "the computer beside" - is that a different computer or the same
[08:52] <Tox> as i wrote i have a big problem
[08:52] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: a different
[08:53] <apecat> Tox: you can install netwatch with the package netdiag
[08:53] <sylpheedClaws> Tox: yeah?
[08:53] <juano__> Psy: sudo ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> up
[08:53] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: so what has that got to do with your mac
[08:53] <midmood> HymnToLife, tried not bothering users with dummy questions, but now i need help
[08:53] <Tox> outgoing connection running
[08:53] <HymnToLife> midmood, I can't really help you with it, I always build my kernels with source from kernel.org, not with the Ubuntu packages
[08:53] <sylpheedClaws> I wasn't here when you said it
[08:53] <Tox> i cant find out why'
[08:53] <sylpheedClaws> so... what's the problem?
[08:53] <juano__> Psy: after that, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:54] <midmood> HymnToLife, ok... could be simply a wrong dir error, can you suggest me from which one I can type the command?
[08:54] <sylpheedClaws> mid: prob?
[08:54] <Tox> indicator shows outgpin bytes
[08:54] <bootsbradford> Where does ubuntu hide its root password?  My friend set his ubuntu system up and the only pass he had to [rovide was a user password.
[08:54] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: if I go in to a site on my mac with os x and then whith the computer whith ubuntu it works on that site..
[08:54] <HymnToLife> midmood, maybe /usr/src/linux ?
[08:54] <sylpheedClaws> midmood: what's the problem?
[08:54] <Tox> how to find out where it goin
[08:54] <apecat> bootsbradford: you can set the root password with sudo passwd root
[08:54] <midmood> sylpheedClaws, blocked in the middle of the recompilation of kernel
[08:54] <jrib> !root | bootsbradford
[08:55] <ubotu> bootsbradford: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:55] <ghostdog> ! pastbin
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <sharperguy> If i make a separate home partition, how big (% wise) should I make it compared with the rest of the drive?
[08:55] <Flannel> bootsbradford, ubuntu doesn't use the root account, and there's no reason to set one up.  It's disabled.
[08:55] <ghostdog> i need past..
[08:55] <sylpheedClaws> ...I don't have much kernel-compiling experience
[08:55] <midmood> hmm, it seems i don't have an /usr/src/linux
[08:55] <HymnToLife> midmood, are you getting my PMs ?
[08:55] <sylpheedClaws> ghostdog | ~pastebin
[08:55] <hjmills> hi - how do i unzip every zip file in a folder from the term? unzip * says they are all not matched
[08:55] <apecat> bootsbradford: if you really want the root account you can set it up, but in most situations using sudo is safer
[08:55] <sylpheedClaws> ghostdog | !pastebin
[08:55] <bootsbradford> Flannel - that's great until you unmount with a normal user account and then can't remount wiuthout su privileges
[08:55] <Psy> juano__, i get gw@ host name lookup faliure
[08:56] <Psy> *gw: host name lookup faliure
[08:56] <Flannel> bootsbradford: you use sudo.  not su.
[08:56] <bootsbradford> apecat: e.g. sudo mount /dev/blah asks for a password
[08:56] <Skuller> kritical: if i just format my ext3 partition and install Edgy on it, wudnt it be better than 'upgrading' my Dapper?
[08:56] <sylpheedClaws> !pastebin | ghostdog
[08:56] <ubotu> ghostdog: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:56] <Flannel> bootsbradford: it's asking for your user password
[08:56] <apecat> bootsbradford: that's your own password
[08:56] <HymnToLife> Skuller, it would definitely be better if you can afford it
[08:56] <bootsbradford> ah ok, thanks apecat, Flannel
[08:57] <juano__> Psy: ok, mm, well anyway, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:57] <Skuller> HymnToLife: hmm...thanx...i guess i'll go for that as soon as i am done downloading the edgy eft ISO on my 128kbps connection....
[08:57] <sylpheedClaws> your root pass is the pass of the first user
[08:57] <sylpheedClaws> on Ubuntu, you don't su, you sudo with your own pass
[08:57] <sylpheedClaws> it's safer that way
[08:57] <HymnToLife> sylpheedClaws, wrong, there is no root pass inUbuntu by default
[08:57] <Flannel> sharperguy: Really /home is where you put all your stuff.  It's best to think the opposite, figure out about how much space you need for everything else, then give /home the rest.  Since it'll be where you put all your random junk, that'll pile up
[08:57] <HymnToLife> don't confuse the user password and the root password
[08:58] <sylpheedClaws> no, I meant that on Ubuntu, the pass treated as the root pass is the user pass
[08:58] <Psy> juano__, host name look up faliure again doing that restart...
[08:58] <Littlegator> Is anyone familiar with changing the usplash?
[08:58] <EdgEy> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:zoiGI5Qko0cJ:linux.rice.edu/help/net-debug.html+debugging+ethernet+linux&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=31&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
[08:58] <sharperguy> Flannel, what do you suggest then?
[08:58] <ikonia> Littlegator: yup
[08:58] <apecat> sylpheedClaws: nope
[08:58] <HymnToLife> sylpheedClaws, it's not the same thing
[08:58] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: are you there? could you help me compile the latest alsa for hda intel?
[08:58] <juano__> Psy: are your other PCs set to similar IPS ?
[08:58] <Flannel> sharperguy: no, it's not. And if you create a second user with admin privledges, then the sudo password is that user's password as well.
[08:58] <EdgEy> can anyone who understands networking better give me a description of what <naddr> is in that link?
[08:58] <sylpheedClaws> ...the pass of the first user
[08:58] <Littlegator> ikonia: I've searched the wiki, forums, and the guide that is provided and I can't get this to work
[08:58] <Psy> yep
[08:59] <juano__> Psy: have you got them all on <IP_ADDRESS> net ?
[08:59] <HymnToLife> you can't use it to login as root or use su for example
[08:59] <Psy> yep
[08:59] <ikonia> Littlegator: whats the problem
[08:59] <Skuller> what is the difference between Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu?
[08:59] <juano__> Psy: what netmasks dot ehy use ? <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:59] <EdgEy> Skuller, window managers
[08:59] <sylpheedClaws> but the root password for sudo, not su
[08:59] <Psy> yep
[08:59] <assasukasse> ikonia what is this problem now?
[08:59] <assasukasse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5303/
[08:59] <Flannel> sharperguy: another way to do it is to use LVM, and then you don't need to worry about sizes ;)
[08:59] <HymnToLife> Skuller, the desktop environment they install by default
[08:59] <Flannel> sylpheedClaws: sudo doesn't use the root password, at all.
[08:59] <dcordes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5303/
[08:59] <sylpheedClaws> on other distros
[08:59] <Littlegator> ikonia: I'm not sure, it tells me to enter a line in the terminal but the terminal says the command usage is wrong
[08:59] <meshyf> Ok so I go to update Ubuntu and it gives me this "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " error message. So I go to the Terminal to do dpkg --configure -a like it says and it says I require super user privileges. So I go to install the Super User Terminal but it wont let me because of the error from before. What can I do to fix this?
[08:59] <sylpheedClaws> this is for people who aren't familiar wit hUbuntu's sudo system
[08:59] <HymnToLife> Ubuntu != other distros :p
[09:00] <hamit> trke bilen varm help
[09:00] <juano__> Psy: have you tried looking in the !wireless
[09:00] <bootsbradford> any ways to stop nautilus displaying mounted devices on the desktop automatically?  I can always get them by going into the file manager if I want
[09:00] <HymnToLife> sylpheedClaws, sudo is not Ubuntu's
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> mesh:
[09:00] <dcordes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5303/
[09:00] <dcordes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5303/
[09:00] <ikonia> Littlegator: whats the command
[09:00] <HymnToLife> it existed way before UBuntu was created
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> did you upgrade with the upgrade manager?
[09:00] <ikonia> assasukasse: looks like a header / kernel incompatability
[09:00] <juano__> !wireless | Psy
[09:00] <ubotu> Psy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:00] <Littlegator>  ikonia:  sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so
[09:00] <hamit> *trke bilen varm help
[09:00] <meshyf> Sylpheed: yeah
[09:00] <Psy> *looking
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> ...
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> weird
[09:00] <sharperguy> sylpheedClaws: not really, because if you type in su, then no password will let you in, because it s disabled
[09:00] <ikonia> Littlegator: that looks fine
[09:00] <unop> sylpheedClaws,  even on other distro's the default password sudo asks for is the user's not roots -- although it can be configured to ask for root's password
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> I've got that message by hacking the upgrade
[09:00] <corevette> how do you turn off "sticky keys" in ubuntu?
[09:01] <Littlegator> ikonia: it gives me the usage prompt, saying  {{--install needs <link> <name> <path> <priority>}}
[09:02] <unop> meshyf,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:02] <meshyf> unop: Thanks man. :D
[09:02] <assasukasse> ikonia please look here
[09:02] <assasukasse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5306/
[09:03] <unop> meshyf,  sudo = superuser do :)
[09:03] <meshyf> unop: oh lol I had no idea.
[09:03] <Psy> juano__, i have the mac address for the router under iwconfig - this means i can see it right?
[09:03] <infidel> anybody know anything about smart type phones?
[09:03] <chable> anyone knows whats the value of 256 in binary numbers
[09:03] <ikonia> assasukasse: ok
[09:03] <ikonia> ?
[09:03] <unop> meshyf,  now you do :)
[09:03] <cypherdelic> when will restricted kernel modules 2.6.17-50 be released?
[09:04] <cypherdelic> or will it ever be released.
[09:04] <assasukasse> ikonia why checkinstall doesnt work but sudo make install does?
[09:04] <Flannel> sharperguy: uh, depends on what you use your computer for, for instance, I have a larger /var, because I have my own web server and stuff.  But, personally (and this is more space than I'll ever need for these partitions): / - 512MB, /usr - 10GB, /var - 25GB (because I have user-ish stuff there), /tmp - 5GB and then /home - the rest (200GB), I was sloppy, because I have LVM running, so I can shift them around if I need, and I had a big d
[09:04] <Flannel> eh, that probably got cut off.
[09:04] <sylpheedClaws> 100000000
[09:04] <sylpheedClaws> chable
[09:04] <chable> cheers
[09:04] <midmood> HymnToLife, maybe i need to register my nick ...
[09:04] <sylpheedClaws> why?
[09:04] <ikonia> assasukasse: check install is a crappy way to work
[09:04] <sylpheedClaws> you'll probably be using hex mostly
[09:04] <ikonia> assasukasse: I never use it
[09:04] <midmood> it's the first time since longtime
[09:05] <juano__> Psy: mmm well thats a good sign
[09:05] <sylpheedClaws> (in which case, it'd be #100)
[09:05] <unop> chable,  1 0000 0000
[09:05] <juano__> Psy: but its weird that you cant ping it
[09:05] <assasukasse> ikonia i see :D its a pity that i've to reinstall always stuffs
[09:05] <chable> thank you
[09:05] <sylpheedClaws> why?
[09:05] <Psy> could it be that ubuntu is trying to route stuff to the wired port rather than the wireless?
[09:05] <HymnToLife> midmood, that's what I told you
[09:05] <juano__> Psy: sure its the router or your wlan0 mac address ?
[09:05] <EdgEy_> is there any way of recovering data from a partition deleted by gparted? it changed the operation queue automatically and i didn't read it
[09:05] <juano__> Psy: you have 2 network cards in that PC ?
[09:06] <midmood> HymnToLife, don't you read my responses?
[09:06] <dobbbob> how can i change the defaul power governor? my laptop boots with Performance, and i want it to be set to conservative
[09:06] <juano__> Psy: one wireless and one wired ?
[09:06] <dobbbob> i knowhow to change it after boot, but i want to set the defaults
[09:06] <corevette> where do i find repositories
[09:07] <unop> Psy,  it could happen if the wired connection has an IP address that has a default gateway as the same router
[09:07] <Locksmith> Hello
[09:07] <rohan> someone should offer ubuntu cd's with updated packages, much like fc respins. :(
[09:07] <Littlegator> ikonia: Do you have any idea why the usplash wouldn't be working?
[09:07] <rohan> especially so for kubuntu, since it has major upgrades like kde 3.5.6 and amarok 1.4.5
[09:08] <ikonia> Littlegator: nope, not without research
[09:08] <dettoaltrimenti> hellllo- if I download the Feisty live cd and install (I already have windows xp and kubuntu 6.10 on my laptop) will feisty show up in my boot menu automatically?
[09:08] <Locksmith> Well - another Linux convert here as of today..... just Borne again today!!!!
[09:08] <Locksmith> just loaded up ubuntu this morning
[09:08] <ikonia> dettoaltrimenti: if you have to ask that - you should not be using alpha software
[09:08] <cypherdelic> when will restricted kernel modules 2.6.17-50 be released?
[09:08] <HymnToLife> midmood, no, you'll need to be registered to send PMs
[09:08] <Flannel> rohan: 6.06.1 is exactly that.  But, if you want updated packages, use the alternate CD or the minimal CD, they'll download the latest from the web.
[09:08] <calvarez> hello, I just switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu. I also made Ubuntu my default laptop OS
[09:08] <whonicca> when is fiesty being released
[09:08] <rohan> Flannel: i was saying it in context to edgy :)
[09:08] <unop> rohan,  ubuntu tries to provide packages as current as can be afforded .. but stability comes first
[09:08] <stork> where can i get a screensaver that is an image slideshow?
[09:08] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:09] <EdgEy_> whonicca april
[09:09] <rohan> unop: i am just talking about updated cd's
[09:09] <Flannel> rohan: eh, the latter still applies ;)
[09:09] <tuskernini> Question, is wlan connection different (pc to pc) than normal wlan?
[09:09] <cypherdelic> or will it ever be released.
[09:09] <cypherdelic> when will restricted kernel modules 2.6.17-50 be released?
[09:09] <whonicca> another question, how often should u do kernel updates when available
[09:09] <SurfnKid> !RestrictedFormats
[09:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <walla> does anyone know how i edit certain aspects of my gtk 2.x theme
[09:09] <CyberCod> I'm having trouble using ktorrent in ubuntu (yes i know its for kde)
[09:09] <Locksmith> Any SUPER Ubuntu users able to help a newbie out with a screen resolution issue?
[09:10] <calach> tuskernini: what do you mean by normal wlan?
[09:10] <Lunar_Lamp> !screenresolution
[09:10] <unop> rohan, you mean CD's for packages already available in the repositories?
[09:10] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:10] <whonicca> whats the problem
[09:10] <whonicca> with ur screen resolution, not a super user but i can help maybe
[09:10] <juano__> Locksmith: whats the problem ?
[09:10] <rohan> unop: yes
[09:10] <tuskernini> calach, wlan from a more common router... ex. dlink...
[09:10] <Lunar_Lamp> !resolution | Locksmith
[09:10] <ubotu> Locksmith: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:11] <unop> rohan,  heh, arent you happy enough that they provide a free service? :) you're on the net, why not download the packages
[09:11] <amortvigil> hey the samba update from last week is broken could anyone help me fix it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5308/
[09:11] <Locksmith> Thanks, I loaded UBUNTU - newest version on my eurocom 5600p clevo with a radeon 7500 video card... and when i try to change the screen res, my resolutions are not listed
[09:11] <tuskernini> calach, we have a project in the city where you can log onto the city wlan but when I open network manager... it sees it as a little computer  and i can not connect..
[09:11] <calach> hmmm
[09:11] <juano__> Locksmith: they are probably not in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:12] <rohan> unop: that was just a request .. ofcourse i am grateful. and, it is pain to download packages in areas with slow internet, like me
[09:12] <Psy> unop, would it detect the channel automatically?
[09:12] <tuskernini> calach, not as my home wlan... and as the other wlans here in the complex
[09:12] <stork> how do i edit screen saver settings?
[09:12] <tuskernini> calach, if i create a wlan connection from my computer.. it also sees it as pc to pc..
[09:12] <calach> yeah
[09:13] <calach> well I mean, it is a computer to computer connection
[09:13] <Locksmith> ok so i tried editing the xorg.conf via the resolution howto and now when i open the screen resolution window now I get this error >>> Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/screen//0/resolution": Can't have two slashes (/) in a row
[09:13] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:13] <whonicca> how often should u do kernel updates when available
[09:13] <tuskernini> calach, and i can not connect to such a connection made by a friend from a mac eather... but he can connect to one I make?
[09:13] <mhiku> faad: error while loading shared libraries: libfaad.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory? how can i fix this?
[09:14] <unop> Psy,  well the fact that you can see the network when you scan suggests so .. but to be sure -- iwconfig
[09:14] <calach> that is most likely just a firewall setting on his end
[09:14] <walla> anyone know i can change just certain aspects of my gtk theme instead of changing the whole thing?
[09:14] <Flannel> whonicca: Well, the updates are bug/security fixes, but it's up to you to balance security vs downtime
[09:14] <juano__> Locksmith: i would try sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , this reconfigures xorg and you can select again the screen resolutions you want to have in it
[09:14] <tuxtoti> i installed apache2 and php using synaptic.... my acpache sever is running and i can see the default apache page ..... but it looks like it wont execute php scripts ...it just gives me a box.. asking where to save the php file (in firefox)...
[09:14] <whonicca> Flannel, i could care less about downtime
[09:14] <tuxtoti> what could be the problem?
[09:14] <whonicca> just wondering since theres like a new one every week
[09:14] <tuskernini> calach, any ideas? maby it needs something... verification? or being able to open a webpage?
[09:14] <Flannel> whonicca: then go ahead and update whenever theyre available
[09:14] <unop> rohan,  is there a reason you must have the latest and greatest?
[09:15] <juano__> Locksmith: before that you should sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[09:15] <Flannel> tuxtoti: you need to install libapache2-mod-php5
[09:15] <calach> tuskernini: you only have problems with ad hoc networks, not infrastructure right?
[09:15] <acastano> hi
[09:15] <unop> amortvigil,  what does this return --  ls -ld /etc/rc2.d/S91samba
[09:15] <rohan> unop: err.. i dont think you got me. i meant, cd's like the fedora respins, or 6.06.1, i.e. updated cd's with the latest packages in repo.
[09:15] <tuskernini> calach, yes with no key... have not tried to disable my home wlan key yet
[09:16] <Locksmith> THANKS JUANO_ I'll try those suggestions
[09:16] <calach> tuskernini wait your home wlan is operating as ad hoc?
[09:16] <unop> rohan,  yes, i got you -- but why must you have the latest version of KDE and whatnot, why dont the current packages cut it?
[09:16] <amortvigil> unop lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Dec  5 14:46 /etc/rc2.d/S91samba -> /samba
[09:16] <tuskernini> calach, no it has a key or am i not understanding you
[09:16] <rohan> unop: the current packages are the latest - 3.5.6. only, the cd is outdated
[09:16] <Skuller> HymnToLife: EdgEy: does my being a 17 yr old student mean that i wud be more happy with 'Edubuntu' rather than Ubuntu?....or if i am an Eye candy lover shud i go for Kubuntu?
[09:16] <Flannel> rohan: just grab the minimal CD, then you'll always have the most recent version.  always.
[09:17] <michi_> hello, does anyone own a ATI X1950 Pro?
[09:17] <calach> well ad hoc and infrastructure can all use keys
[09:17] <unop> amortvigil,  try this -- sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S91samba  -- and run that command again
[09:17] <commoner> does anyone know how to get BitchX to stop showing join/part & quit messages?
[09:17] <calach> but most home networks use infrastructure
[09:17] <rohan> Flannel: the download page lists only desktop and alternate. can you link me to the minimal cd's ?
[09:17] <SurfnKid> michi_: go to #ubuntu-effects or #beryl they  have info there
[09:17] <dxdemetriou> I have copied some files to external disk, and some others aren't there now but in lost&fount. can I restore them?
[09:17] <unop> rohan,  so the only reason you want the latest packages is because you think what you are running is outdated?
[09:17] <HymnToLife> Skuller, if you have the slightest common sense, you'll be happier with Kubuntu :p </troll>
[09:17] <tuskernini> calach, so i must have infrastructure... how can i find out? iwconfig?
[09:17] <Flannel> Skuller: no.  Edubuntu is geared more towards classroom settings (client-server teacher-student thing), if you like what edubuntu gives, install ubuntu then install the edubuntu themes/stuff
[09:17] <michi_> SufnKid: thx
[09:18] <calach> tuskernini connect to your router
[09:18] <Flannel> Skuller: classroom settings like teachers controlling students screens and stuff, not just 'educational' settings
[09:18] <AVN`> my down key doesn't work
[09:18] <whonicca> do i have to enable anything on the windows machines on my netowrk in order to open up there folders through nautilus with samba
[09:18] <Flannel> !minimal | rohan
[09:18] <ubotu> rohan: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:18] <SurfnKid> michi_: np
[09:18] <AVN`> how do I reset the keybindings?
[09:18] <calach> tuskernini: sorry i cant help you much I dunno
[09:18] <_apelsinchoklad_> nn hr som kan lite linux?? ... ja provade att installera linux (ubuntu) igr p min gammla imac 233mhz.. men ja kan inte f internet att funka... det funkar iaf p powermacen brevid med os x p.... det som r konsigast r att om man gr in p en sida p powermacen och sen p imacen s funkar det ibland p den sidan.
[09:18] <whonicca> i get an authentication required pop up, put in my login name and password and it still doesnt allow me to browse
[09:18] <amortvigil> unop its woring
[09:18] <tuskernini> calach,  thanks anyway...
[09:18] <rohan> unop: that, and because of the changes listed on http://kde.org/info/3.5.6.php
[09:18] <dxdemetriou> can I restore files from lost and found? The fsck.ext3 doesn't restore them
[09:19] <rohan> Flannel: that was exactly what i was looking for ! thanks :)
[09:19] <Kasparr> Hi. Can anyone tall me whats the best support for Beryl to run with my Radeon 9200? AIGLX or XGL?
[09:19] <Flannel> _apelsinchoklad_: english only.  But, if you want a lighter version of ubuntu, check out xubuntu
[09:19] <ompaul> !se
[09:19] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:19] <Flannel> Kasparr: #ubuntu-effects for beryl questions
[09:19] <leke> sup
[09:19] <timthelion> now that termcap-compat is completely depricated can one run emacs-cvs on ubuntu?
[09:19] <unop> amortvigil,  woring? whats that mean?
[09:19] <Nomad_O_North> What is the Linux equivilant of C:/Program Files?
[09:19] <Kasparr> Flannel: thanks
[09:19] <kitche> Kasparr: with ati binary drivers it's just xgl witht he open source drivers you can use aiglx
[09:20] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, there is non - we have an older and more sane way of looking at files
[09:20] <cables> Nomad_O_North, /usr/bin usually, for the actual app, ~ for settings
[09:20] <Skuller> Flannel: HymnToLife: so i dont reali have to use Edubuntu if i am a home desktop user i guess....the option now just comes down to between Ku and Ub....and considering wt Hymn said i guess i shud download and install Kubuntu right?
[09:20] <Flannel> Nomad_O_North: /usr/bin  http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg is a reasonable rundown (but not ubuntu specific)
[09:20] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, what are you trying to do?
[09:20] <cables> Nomad_O_North, you can do whereis appname to know
[09:20] <Zaggynl> !wifi
[09:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:20] <amortvigil> unop sorrie typo:P its all working
[09:20] <AVN`> Can anyone tell me how to fix gnome key bindings? mine got screwed up and I don't want to recusimize my gconf
[09:20] <timthelion> ompaul: I wouldn't go so far as to say more sane, I have never seen a sane destcription
[09:20] <Flannel> Skuller: you can actually have them both installed on the same system (on the same partition) and choose between DEs each time you login
[09:20] <babo> does anyone know how to convert an avi file to a flv file ? .... pls ... ??
[09:21] <unop> rohan,  man o man, why do you assume that it's best to have what's newest -- i bet you if you were sent a CD, the KDE you got would be obsolete :)
[09:21] <timthelion> AVN`: um, you could go to system preferences hotkeys
[09:21] <babo> I've tried mencoder, but it doesn't seem to be up to the job ... :-(
[09:21] <Flannel> unop: that's what the minimal CD solves, you only download the latest.
[09:21] <JessicaFL> Is it possible to run two XWindows at once?  Like, Ctrl+F7 for one and Ctrl+F8 for the other?  I have VMWare running but even maximized I don't have enough visual area to be comfortable in the guest OS.  If possible, any pointers on what I need to read up on?  Thanks!!!
[09:21] <rohan> unop: true, but kde 3.5.6 has its advantages :)
[09:21] <Skuller> Flannel: ohh...but i guess that would be unnecessary unless you can give me an advantage of using Ub rather than Ku
[09:21] <timthelion> ompaul: if you know of a good description of unix directory structure I'm interested
[09:21] <AVN`> timthelion: stuff like the down arrow, not like whats in hotkeys
[09:22] <Nomad_O_North> I'm going to perform a backup of all of the primary programs on my system. That is, all of the programs visible under Alacarte.
[09:22] <rohan> and other things, like kernel updates, bug fixes and security updates, that are usually part of edgy-updates, unop
[09:22] <Flannel> Skuller: theyre... comparable.  It's personal preference over merits, for KDE vs Gnome
[09:22] <timthelion> AVN`: what is wrong with the down arrow?
[09:22] <Amaranth> Nomad_O_North: why?
[09:22] <Amaranth> Nomad_O_North: those are easy to reinstall
[09:22] <kitche> timethelion: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ has everythign layed out well and is what most distros follow
[09:22] <AVN`> timthelion: it is not mapped to anything, a few other keys are broken also
[09:23] <Flannel> Skuller: HymnToLife was being silly when he said Kubuntu was better if you 'have the slightest common sense'
[09:23] <Nomad_O_North> Just to be safe, in case for some reason known only to bob an essential file goes missing.
[09:23] <HymnToLife> Skuller, it was a joke to say that I consider KDE to be way better than Gnome, but you could try them both if you want to make your own opinion about it
[09:23] <rohan> Skuller: it depends on your preference - whether you like KDE or gnome
[09:23] <ompaul> timthelion, http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_intro/sect_03_01.html scroll down that page a bit - Nomad_O_North you might find it interesting
[09:23] <coNP> ! flamewar
[09:23] <commoner> JessicaFL: i've done that before with two different users signed in at the same time.  I don't know how well it would work if it's the same user signed in twice.
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flamewar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <rohan> but I'd agree with HymnToLife , Skuller :)
[09:23] <coNP> oh, poor ubotu :)
[09:23] <HymnToLife> but if you like eye-candy, KDE is definitely the best bet
[09:23] <Skuller> Flannel: Does the personal preference come in even if i have not used Ub for more than 2 days?....i mean i dont think i wuf prefer one more than the other if i have just initiated myself in the Linux world a couple of dayz back
[09:24] <Nomad_O_North> That way I can just replace the file and go about my business.
[09:24] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:24] <Skuller> HymnToLife: that is arrite then.....but eye candy still goes to KDE aye?
[09:24] <commoner> JessicaFL, just go to system>quit and choose switch uses
[09:24] <HymnToLife> Skuller, that's exacly why I'm teling you to try them both
[09:24] <rohan> Skuller: all the more reason to try both - you can then just stick to what you like.
[09:24] <unop> rohan, it's not feasible to use CDs .. especially as the install ones are already given out free .. which is why you have the online repos .. now, if you spent a couple of hours everyday running update (even of 2kbps dialup) you'd have no problems
[09:24] <dm> exit
[09:24] <JessicaFL> commoner: I don't mind making another user.  Do I just run StartX as each user?  I don't mind reading a lot, but do you know a good place for info on this?
[09:24] <JessicaFL> commoner: ok (i'll wait until you're done of course :)
[09:24] <Flannel> Skuller: eh?  Theyre different.  Yeah, personal preference would make a difference, because you still know what you like ;)  Probably install both, try them each, then choose one (or don't, no issue leaving them both installed)
[09:25] <rohan> unop: true ..
[09:25] <illriginal> How come K3B cannot play mp3 files?... And will it convert the mp3s into audio format so that i can play it in a car stereo or in a CD player?
[09:25] <HymnToLife> Skuller, http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9/kdecompositech0.png
[09:25] <HymnToLife> here's some nice KDE eye-candy :p
[09:25] <Skuller> Flannel: rohan: HymnToLife: thanx....i guess i'll try both and then make up my mind....thnx for ur help
[09:25] <illriginal> How come K3B cannot play mp3 files?... And will it convert the mp3s into audio format so that i can play it in a car stereo or in a CD player?
[09:25] <Flannel> illriginal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3  you need to install k3b's mp3 codec,
[09:26] <HymnToLife> illriginal, I told you k3b needs an extra plugin to handle mp3, you'l find it in Synaptic
[09:26] <rohan> Skuller: yes, try both and stick to one you like .. np :)
[09:26] <illriginal> i did.
[09:26] <illriginal> I DID THAT.
[09:26] <unop> JessicaFL,  did you want to have two sessions running at the same time?
[09:26] <illriginal> the decoder.
[09:26] <commoner> JessicaFL, np ;)  If you're using GDM (for graphical login screen) you should be able to use switch user (instead of running startx from the console)
[09:26] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:26] <Flannel> illriginal: which one?  and which version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:26] <JessicaFL> commoner: oh! ok, I thought I had to do more than that
[09:27] <gapagos> hey when i tried to boot from the Ubuntu 6.10 installation CD it freeses about 20 secs after loading the kernel
[09:27] <Nomad_O_North> BTW, I also need to know how to back up my aplications menu...
[09:27] <Muzik83> illriginal: you probably need libk3b2-mp3
[09:27] <gapagos> i have 6.06 installed
[09:27] <mamonassassina> hi,is a .bin file "mountable"?
[09:27] <JessicaFL> commoner: then how do you switch between them? (or is it just doing switch user back and forth?)  can you do alt+f7,f8 ?
[09:27] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:27] <unop> JessicaFL,  you can have another session within your current one by running this command - gdmflexiserver -xnest
[09:27] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:27] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???