[12:16] <agent_bob> what's the url for universe on hoary ?
[12:16] <aemccoy> I don't have a default anymore though when I go to watch it it wants me to save it to my disk and I don't want to do that
[12:16] <aemccoy> I don't really delete stuff
[12:17] <aemccoy> but if I go to play with and browse I don't know where to find any of the media players
[12:17] <talios> crimsun, right - here goes - back soon all being well :)
[12:17] <aemccoy> I mean what file
[12:17] <aemccoy> where to look
[12:17] <ilba7r> aemccoy, sorry can not help you more you might ask your broth to set it up for you
[12:17] <miky> ilba7r, it says it's kde will it work in ubuntu?
[12:17] <aemccoy> yes
[12:17] <ilba7r> miky, yes
[12:18] <aemccoy> I will give up goood idea
[12:18] <miky> it's quite large
[12:18] <aemccoy> thank you for all of your help though
[12:18] <ilba7r> welcomed :)
[12:18] <agent_bob> sources.list hoary universe ?    anybody know the url or where to find it ?
[12:18] <ilba7r> !repos
[12:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:19] <ilba7r> agent_bob, follow ubotu link
[12:19] <agent_bob> ilba7r which one ?
[12:19] <Okys> hello all
[12:19] <ilba7r> agent_bob, the first one. also see easysource
[12:19] <ilba7r> !easysource
[12:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:19] <mobidirk> agent_bob change breezy or warthy in your /etc/apt/sources.list into hoary.
[12:20] <agent_bob> there is no breezy or warty in my sources list.
[12:20] <ilba7r> agent_bob, which distro are you usig then
[12:20] <mobidirk> Which version do you use?
[12:20] <agent_bob> hoary
[12:21] <ilba7r> agent_bob, and what you want to do to your source list
[12:21] <agent_bob> add universe/multiverse
[12:21] <mobidirk> Just a moment.
[12:22] <ilba7r> agent_bob, open the file using sudo and uncomment the lines or follow ubotu easysource
[12:22] <agent_bob> i see what you are saying tho.  i can use the breezy list and change breezy to hoary.
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, That's right.
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> Fergy, What's going on with you?
[12:22] <ilba7r> agent_bob, do you want to upgrade?
[12:22] <agent_bob> my sources.lst is blank.  that's why i was looking for one....
[12:23] <agent_bob> no
[12:23] <mobidirk> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[12:23] <mobidirk>  deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[12:23] <Ng> !sources
[12:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:23] <Ng> agent_bob: ^^
[12:24] <agent_bob> well it looks like i may get this installed by quiting time....  yes thanks.
[12:24] <ilba7r> agent_bob, use easy source it will generate it much easy for you
[12:24] <Okys> is there a common problem with getting wireless networks to happen?
[12:26] <aemccoy> thank all of you for you efforts goodnight
[12:26] <owner> i went back to the ubuntu 2.6.12 kernel
[12:26] <owner> 2.6.15 broke gnome
[12:27] <owner> dunno why
[12:27] <mobidirk> agent_bob It`s better to upgrade. Just wait until the Dapper Drake come`s out.
[12:27] <poopette> hello everybody, I need help
[12:27] <Ng> owner: you need to be a bit careful with custom kernels - there are some patches applied to the ubuntu ones that userspace will depend on
[12:27] <agent_bob> and why pray tell is it better to upgrade ?
[12:28] <Ng> owner: see the linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12 package for the ones that are applied for breezy, or the 2.6.15 equivalent if you're running dapper
[12:28] <poopette> could someone check this font on this webpage and say me if the font are ok ?
[12:28] <agent_bob> is the release i have not 'good'
[12:28] <Ng> agent_bob: they're all good, but they get better with every release :)
[12:28] <agent_bob> mobidirk ?
[12:28] <poopette> URL http://www.lannexe-restobar.be/03/index3.php
[12:28] <Abecedarian> dooglus:  Not sure if you're still here, but I wanted to thank you for telling me a little bit about kernel updates.  I hadn't been certain about whether they also installed other files, so knowing that modules might also be installed/updated is a good thing for me to be warned about!
[12:29] <ilba7r> agent_bob, if you do not care about having the latest gadget or eyecandy if your system work and you like it as is then no need to upgrade
[12:29] <mobidirk> agent_bob Hoary is allright, but some things are going better with breezy and so on
[12:30] <poopette> could someone check the 04font00 on this webpage and say me if the font are ok ?
[12:30] <poopette> URL http://www.lannexe-restobar.be/03/index3.php
[12:30] <poopette> sorry to be redundant...
[12:31] <Seveas> poopette, horribly offtopic, ask somewhere else...
[12:31] <ilba7r> on the other hand to upgrade to dapper you need to upgrade to breezy first than upgrade to dapper
[12:31] <poopette> ok so where ?
[12:31] <Seveas> dunno, but not in here
[12:31] <agent_bob> eye candy.  hehhe  console only!   and i doubt that there is any improvement for console only on dapper
[12:31] <poopette> ok sorry seveas
[12:32] <mjose> jslkfj
[12:32] <mjose> lkdjf
[12:32] <mjose> lskjdfkl
[12:32] <mjose> lkdjfld
[12:33] <talios> crimsun, and we're back....
[12:33] <crimsun> talios: in live cd or normal install?
[12:33] <poopette> please, where can I found a channel with webdevelopment as topic ?
[12:34] <Seveas> #html perhaps
[12:34] <olicat> anyone know how to test if $VARIABLE is equal to a certain string in bash?
[12:34] <talios> crimsun, normal install - e2fsck fixed up a shitload of dangling inodes and messed up shit :(
[12:34] <poopette> thanks!
[12:34] <Seveas> olicat, test $VARIABLE == "bla"
[12:34] <Ng> owner: if [ "$SOMEVAR" = "sometext" ]  ; then echo "they are the same; fi
[12:34] <crimsun> talios: ah.
[12:34] <Ng> s/owner/olicat/
[12:35] <olicat> cheers Seveas, Bg
[12:35] <olicat> Ng
[12:35] <agent_bob> olicat [ "$VARIABLE" == "bla" ]  && echo yes
[12:36] <talios> crimsun, still - it iterates in my mind thats its time to look at new hardware;p
[12:36] <taomaster> how do i update to the newest release?
[12:37] <bimberi> !breezy
[12:37] <taomaster> or just update the kernel
[12:37] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:37] <taomaster> ok thanx
[12:37] <bimberi> taomaster: np
[12:38] <talios> crimsun, hows dapper looking these days?  i've been meaning to check it out..
[12:38] <gnomefreak> broken :)
[12:38] <talios> heh
[12:39] <olicat> hmm, cant seem to get it working: if [ test $POSTGRES_VERSION == "postgresql-7.4.*" ] ; then echo "Hello World" ; fi  - that gives me 'too many arguments' error
[12:39] <[Kismet] > Hi All! Anyone know a context aware diff program?
[12:40] <Ng> olicat: 7.4.*? that's not going to work ;)
[12:40] <olicat> Ng, damn
[12:40] <Ng> olicat: also your syntax is a bit mixed up there
[12:40] <olicat> i need to check for any 7.4 version
[12:41] <penguinzdr> how can i create a shortcut to my home folder on my desktop?
[12:41] <olicat> penguinzdr, ln -s /home/username /home/username/Desktop
[12:41] <agent_bob> ln -s ../ home
[12:42] <agent_bob> Desktop will probably exist.
[12:42] <CarinArr> ../ ?
[12:43] <xored> how to change the standard shell for a user ?
[12:43] <agent_bob> yes that assumes that you are in the Desktop at the time.
[12:43] <agent_bob> usermod
[12:43] <hikenboot> how would i edit a .deb package?
[12:43] <olicat> Ng, ok i've got the syntax working now :) cheers
[12:43] <olicat> Ng, still can't get it to check for *'s tho
[12:44] <hikenboot> I get the following error  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.alias', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[12:44] <Ng> olicat: you could feed it through sed to cut off anything after postgres-7.4. so then you can just compare against that and don't need to care about the minor version
[12:44] <Jemt> Hi. Is it possible to create network profiles in Ubuntu? I use my laptop at school and when I'm home. I have tried the "Location" function under Networking, but that dosn't work. The settings are the same on all profiles.
[12:44] <crimsun> talios: check out Flight 3 live cd
[12:45] <penguinzdr> oic, there's a home icon option in gconf
[12:45] <talios> crimsun, i'm slowly torrenting it at work currently
[12:45] <talios> so will check that once its done :)
[12:45] <crimsun> talios: excellent :)
[12:45] <crimsun> talios: hey, if you have a sec, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:45] <talios> but right now I think I must head to bed - 00:46 here :)
[12:45] <orion_fr_24> going away to eat something i ll be back latter
[12:45] <orion_fr_24> see you all
[12:46] <talios> crimsun, i'm there...
[12:47] <ilba7r> Jemt, try network manager
[12:47] <ilba7r> !tell Jemt about networkmanager
[12:48] <highvoltage> hi. why would apt give me a message like this:
[12:48] <highvoltage> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/ttf-opensymbol_2.0.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb  Bad header line [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:48] <Jemt> ilba7r: Thanks, I'll check it out :)
[12:48] <spo0nman> Is there a place where I can get ubuntu posters?
[12:48] <owner> lol spo0n
[12:48] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ubuntu posters?
[12:48] <ilba7r> Jemt, ur welcomed :)
[12:48] <owner> trying to spread the word
[12:48] <spo0nman> Mark Shuttleworth is visiting so I thought we should get some ubuntu posters up ...
[12:49] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ohh ok.
[12:49] <spo0nman> owner: :-|
[12:51] <spo0nman> no posters at all?
[12:51] <anandaputra> hi all..
[12:51] <owner> http://www.lx-networks.de/sticker.php ubuntu stickers
[12:52] <owner> sp00n i found this
[12:52] <owner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[12:52] <anandaputra> i need to talk to canonical team which involve in Asia Business Tour.. where i could find them?
[12:52] <owner> that looks like what you want
[12:52] <Jemt> network-manager looks great - but if someone know of a manually network-switching tool (profile system), I would be very interested. I use my laptop for many purposes - ie support, LAN parties (organizer) etc. Would be great if I could add a new profil for each task.
[12:53] <grantashman> Hey guys, I'm looking for help in regards to permissions for my Mp3 player. I seem to have lost write permissions, for both mine and root account.
[12:53] <grantashman> In properties I get Text View: drwx------
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know of network profiles bugs will be fixed in Dapper?
[12:53] <spo0nman> owner: thanks.
[12:54] <s_spiff{AWAY}> guys any reccomendation as to which *box to use? Im using Openbox but since have no knowledge of XML, cant mess around with it... just downloaded flux box... will check it out what to do.
[12:54] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  so any suggestions befor i begin?
[12:54] <owner> np
[12:54] <grantashman> Is anyone able to help me, get back my write permissions, it's very important.
[12:54] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brb
[12:55] <Jemt> s_spiff{AWAY}: I can indeed recommend Fluxbox. Great WM - easy to customize - but you will probably need to do a little reading. Try google - don't have my links with me today :)
[12:55] <owner> grantashman chmod 666
[12:55] <grantashman> owner - followed by path to the drive?
[12:56] <grantashman> grant@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 666 /media/GRANT\ H300/
[12:56] <grantashman> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/GRANT H300/': Read-only file system
[12:56] <grantashman> grant@ubuntu:~$
[12:57] <grantashman> Doesn't this mean it is now a read-only file system?
[12:57] <owner> you have to sudo chmod 666
[12:57] <owner> or sudo chmod 777
[12:57] <grantashman> i did sudo chmod 666
[12:57] <owner> ok
[12:58] <s_spiff> back...tried fluxbox...freaked the crap outta me !
[12:58] <owner> you can also try chown -R user:user
[12:58] <owner> user being your username
[12:58] <grantashman> grant@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 777 /media/GRANT\ H300/
[12:58] <grantashman> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/GRANT H300/': Read-only file system
[12:58] <grantashman> grant@ubuntu:~$
[12:58] <CarinArr> s_spiff, why;)
[12:58] <grantashman> owner, says the same thing.
[12:58] <owner> grant is that an ntfs drive?
[12:58] <CarinArr> s_spiff, it doesn't look like much before you configure it the way you want it
[12:58] <s_spiff>  well how do u configure it?
[12:58] <owner> s_spiff, you have to setup the menus
[12:59] <s_spiff>  is there a way to blend it into gnome like openbox?
[12:59] <grantashman> FAT32, it has worked fine for over six months now.
[12:59] <CarinArr> s_spiff, have a look at fluxbox.org
[12:59] <CarinArr> s_spiff, there really isn't any point in using fluxbox if you want it to blend into gnome
[12:59] <grantashman> Doesn't seem to do anything?
[01:00] <CarinArr> fluxbox definitely isn't great if you're looking for stuff to come to you completely pre-configured;) i love it though
[01:00] <owner> grant you have to edit fstab
[01:00] <s_spiff> CarinArr, umm yeah.. can say so.. but atleast in the begining.. because.. i'm sure it'll take me some time to learn how to tweak it.. and hence befor i do learn, i was thinking if i could do that
[01:00] <owner> s_spiff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[01:00] <grantashman> Why? how did this happen suddenly?
[01:01] <owner> and http://nix-dev.dudcore.net/HOWTO/UbuntuFlux
[01:01] <owner> those are good guides
[01:01] <s_spiff> owner, thanks...
[01:01] <owner> grant you have to edit /etc/fstab
[01:01] <grantashman> I'm getting -r-r-r- as my permissions now :S
[01:02] <owner> because it is mounting it as read only
[01:02] <s_spiff> ok..any links for Openbox..except for the wiki?
[01:02] <owner> openbox is more minimalistic than fluxbox
[01:02] <owner> no taskbar
[01:03] <xored> how to change foreground/background in xterm ?
[01:03] <grantashman> Owner - there does not seem to be any mention of it in fstab?
[01:04] <owner> grant it should be something like this #
[01:04] <owner> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> Any ideas why it would take a long time to swith to a virtual terminal?  Ctrl-Alt-F2 has a few seconds lag before anything happens.  Coming back to 7 is fine though.
[01:04] <owner> in etc/fstab
[01:04] <s_spiff> hey CarinArr I checked out the fluxbox.org..the latest release for debian is .9.14 and ubuntu synaptic is offering .12... any way to upgrade?
[01:04] <grantashman> Yeah, I don't see any of that, only my 2 hdd, cdrom, proc and floppy
[01:05] <owner> grant you have to unmount that partition and remount it as read write
[01:06] <j2daosh> hey... is there a way to connect to 2 rooms on startup? like ubuntu and ubuntu-offtopic?
[01:06] <grantashman> how will I do that owner?
[01:06] <grantashman> mind if I pm you?
[01:06] <j2daosh> grantashman, sudo umount whatever
[01:06] <owner> ok
[01:07] <Decadent> is there a program or a plug in for xmms such as the library that winamp has in order to find easily media??
[01:07] <owner> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[01:07] <owner> check out section 5.2 grant
[01:08] <mtlife> why is my sound working for like 15 minutes, and then it just suddenly stops working
[01:08] <owner> you just have to find the name of your fat32 partition
[01:08] <owner> in the guide it is hda1
[01:08] <owner> but it could be any number
[01:09] <grantashman> owner, after this will I not be able to mount/unmount automatically and from the desktop icons?
[01:09] <owner> im sure you can grant
[01:09] <grantashman> ok thanks :)
[01:09] <owner> because i mounted an ntfs partition like that and it shows up on my desktop
[01:09] <grantashman> see what I can do.
[01:10] <j2daosh> i mounted my windows part on the desktop... mounted my windows network part on the desktop too..
[01:12] <mtlife> can i get some help here on sound trouble?
[01:12] <crimsun> mtlife: in ubuntu? sure.
[01:13] <mtlife> crimsun: when i boot, my sound works although quality is very bad.. much noise in the sound and the base is crispy.. and after it played a few sounds it just stops working
[01:14] <grantashman> owner, it appears as if my problem is solved.
[01:14] <grantashman> thankyou very much
[01:15] <owner> np
[01:15] <crimsun> mtlife: pastebin the output from the following commands: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[01:15] <grantashman> no wait, it still mounts again at /media/GRANT H300 with read only permissions.
[01:16] <owner> mtlife follow this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=happy+alsa
[01:16] <grantashman> how can I totally stop it mounting at this location and make a new location for it to mount?
[01:16] <owner> grant instead of /media/windows/
[01:16] <owner> you can make a new location
[01:16] <thx> hi guys =) Can you help me with playing mp3 music... (sorry for my bad eng, i'm from russia)
[01:16] <owner> and mount anywhere you like
[01:17] <ssam> !mp3
[01:17] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:17] <mtlife> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7252
[01:17] <grantashman> yes, but upon re-plugging in the device it mounts at it's old location with read only permissions and not my new location.
[01:17] <thx> thanks
[01:18] <herder_> hi, has anyone been able to install arla-modules on 5.10?
[01:19] <NiklasH_work> hi, has anyone been able to install arla on 5.10?
[01:20] <thx> another question... can i install packages for debian? Without downloading them from i-net by using Synaptic
[01:22] <TauReX> so I've started getting an error that my filesystem is read-only and can't do anything, can't login either
[01:22] <TauReX> does that mean my hdd is fried?
[01:22] <TauReX> or nearly fried :/
[01:27] <nbound> hmmm quiet tonight....
[01:28] <nbound> almost too quiet....
[01:28] <nbound> where is everyone?
[01:29] <PiedPiper> lol
[01:29] <nbound> lol?
[01:29] <nbound> i was gone for 2 secs and i miss something =/
[01:30] <mikul> is there any other good grafical dc++ clients exept for valknut?
[01:30] <olicat> is it possible to request user input from within a shell script?
[01:30] <nbound> OMG, a question, more.. more... - and i dont know the answer to any
[01:30] <nbound> =(
[01:31] <crimsun> mtlife: please decrease the levels of 'Master' and 'PCM' to below 80%
[01:31] <lockhead> olicat, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:32] <nbound> is it me or am i not receiving half the banter?
[01:32] <PiedPiper> lol
[01:33] <dutch> it's you !
[01:33] <PiedPiper> u dun c the caht nbound?
[01:33] <rambo3> Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it. Who makes these warnings in KDE?
[01:33] <PiedPiper> chat*
[01:33] <nbound> PiedPiper, yeah i see the chat, but this channel is slower than molasses tonight
[01:33] <nbound> which is weird
[01:33] <nbound> coz its usually full of noobs
[01:34] <dutch> i resent that !
[01:34] <crimsun> it's ok, james, I got your back
[01:34] <dutch> thanks daniel :)
[01:34] <nbound> rambo3, i dont need to be root or sudo to run it. ill just check anyway
[01:34] <crimsun> np :)
[01:34] <owner> i got the best sound quality by downloading and installing the latest drivers from the alsa site
[01:34] <Sp4rKy> hi
[01:34] <dutch> and qparted is a dangerous thing to turn loose on the unsuspecting :(
[01:34] <nbound> rambo3, heh yeah i do =(
[01:35] <Sp4rKy> i've an issue with my intel video card
[01:35] <Sp4rKy> the DirectRendering can't be loaded
[01:35] <nbound> dutch, is qparted == Gparted?
[01:35] <dutch> nbound: close enough to screw me up  :)
[01:35] <rambo3> well my point was in warning massage anyway. whats next terminal is a part of liberal media
[01:35] <Sp4rKy> and i've many errors messages like :drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[01:35] <nbound> dutch, didnt think so :p
[01:35] <dutch> I believe it's gparted or qtparted
[01:35] <piotrek> hello, i've got a question(problem) i need to use python-commandsplus, python-extattr, python-Observable, python-amarok, songanalysis - can U tell me what extra repositories i have to add?
[01:36] <nbound> Sp4rKy, get an ati or nvidia card =P
[01:36] <Sp4rKy> nbound, no, thx, it's a laptop dell inspiron 1150
[01:36] <nbound> piotrek, u can download source from a site and compile it
[01:36] <PiedPiper> get a decent laptop :p
[01:37] <nbound> Sp4rKy, thats gotta suck
[01:37] <nbound> Sp4rKy, afaik most of the video work in linux is done for nv/ati coz they are the most popular brands... maybe try drivers from intel if they supply them
[01:38] <owner> there are working intel drivers for linux
[01:38] <PiedPiper> ya, leap ahead !
[01:39] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i've reconfigure xserver-xorg with i810 driver and it seems to be ok, the drm module is loaded but i've the previous error and the direct rendering isn't loaded
[01:40] <nbound> Sp4rKy, the driver itself should automatically configure ur xorg, or there should be a guide, have you followed them or just changed driver name?
[01:40] <rambo3> anyway i have problem with making bootable dos partition in gparted. i ususaly make i fat partition where win 95 can be , but now do i need noot flag pr something that i can access when booting with floppy disk so i can change to C:\
[01:40] <Sp4rKy> nbound, how can i change the driver name ?
[01:40] <rambo3> noot =boot
[01:41] <PiedPiper> win95 rambo?
[01:41] <Sp4rKy> nbound, my card is a Intel 82852/855GM and the driver i810 should be good
[01:41] <rambo3> best operating system ever
[01:41] <nbound> Sp4rKy, theres a bit in the vid section called driver, lol, but u dont want to just changed that coz it will cause probs
[01:41] <PiedPiper> heh
[01:42] <nbound> Sp4rKy, u should follow the guide which came with ur driver
[01:42] <nbound> to anyone, does the nvtv package work with all nv cards and driver revisions?
[01:42] <Sp4rKy> nbound, where could i find it ?
[01:43] <nbound> Sp4rKy, intel site, or in the driver package youve dloaded
[01:44] <Sp4rKy> nbound, ok, i search it
[01:44] <nbound> Sp4rKy, you have dloaded the drivers from intel havent you?
[01:45] <Sp4rKy> notsteve, i've use the xserver-xorg-driver-i810 from packages
[01:45] <nbound> Sp4rKy, hmmm
[01:46] <katie_> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <nbound> Sp4rKy, ill check the intel site
[01:46] <Sp4rKy> nbound, do you think it exist another driver ?
[01:47] <nbound> Sp4rKy, i hope so... anyway one from intel will be better than that one, which should have been autodetected
[01:48] <Sp4rKy> i check ...
[01:48] <Eghie_Work> Does someone know, why debmirror is not downloading the "/dists/breezy/main/debian-installer" folder?
[01:49] <Eghie_Work> i use debmirror to mirror the ubuntu repository
[01:49] <Eghie_Work> only for breezy
[01:49] <Eghie_Work> and only for i386 arch
[01:50] <nbound> Sp4rKy, hmmm only rpms... and im not sure if something like that would still work with ubuntu after being changed to a deb
[01:51] <nbound> http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/linux/index.htm < Sp4rKy read that, from now on ur on ur own, ive lno experience with intel vid drivers for linux
[01:51] <mtlife> crimsun, owner: crimsun i set all the mixer settings to 80%... and owner, i followed your guide.. doesnt fix things.. tried to play a cd only the first 2 secs played and then the sound was gone once again
[01:51] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i've found source
[01:52] <owner> mtlife did you try killall esd in a terminal
[01:52] <owner> change audio output to alsa
[01:52] <owner> in your media players
[01:52] <mtlife> gonna try now
[01:52] <nbound> Sp4rKy, compile it and see if it works... if u dont know how, im not gonna teach you coz im way too tired, lol
[01:53] <nbound> Sp4rKy, if u cant get em goin eventually just use vesa its not THAT bad... just no OpenGL afaik
[01:53] <Sp4rKy> ok thx
[01:53] <Sp4rKy> i'll try
[01:55] <mtlife> hmm killall esd seems to be working
[01:55] <owner> ya
[01:55] <owner> esd hogs the sound output
[01:56] <mtlife> is there a fix for esd?
[01:56] <nbound> owner, use alsa or oss
[01:56] <owner> if you followed the guide i posted
[01:56] <owner> it should set esd not to spawn on startup
[01:56] <owner> but only when needed
[01:56] <mtlife> followed it.. so i still can use esd?
[01:56] <owner> yes
[01:56] <owner> but alsa is better
[01:57] <owner> you should be able to play multiple alsa streams at the same time
[01:57] <mtlife> yeah but alsa cant mix from more sources am i correct?
[01:57] <owner> yes it can
[01:57] <mtlife> :o didnt know that
[01:57] <mtlife> :)
[01:57] <owner> i can open up 5 different media players at the same time
[01:57] <owner> alsa mixes really well
[01:57] <nbound> heh with oss i can only listen to one thing at once =/
[01:58] <mchasard> could i get the adress to complete the source .list in order to get opera
[01:58] <owner> yeah oss doesnt mix well
[01:58] <mchasard> i didn't remember where to get it
[01:58] <nbound> but works best with wine from what ive tested
[01:58] <nbound> so thats why i use it
[01:58] <owner> a lot of games still use oss
[01:58] <mtlife> i can open 3 players then my sound starts to fail buffering :p (old pc's gotta love m)
[01:58] <owner> you can setup alsa oss emulation
[01:58] <nbound> hmmm
[01:58] <owner> apt-get install alsa-oss
[01:58] <owner> or something
[01:58] <nbound> yeah ive seen that package
[01:59] <nbound> does it actually work well though?
[01:59] <mtlife> and that adds oss compliance?
[01:59] <owner> it does
[01:59] <nbound> mtlife, yep
[01:59] <owner> but i had to load some modules otherwise i didnt have a /dev/dsp
[01:59] <nbound> hmmm alsa time =D
[01:59] <nbound> owner yeah thats my prob too
[02:00] <nbound> i dont have /dev/dsp
[02:00] <owner> nbound i had a link that fixed it perfectly
[02:00] <owner> let me look
[02:00] <mchasard> please which adress may i have to add to source .list
[02:00] <nbound> owner, thx
[02:00] <_jason> I use aoss with firefox (for flash sound) and if I close a flash window while something with sound is still playing it tends to hang firefox indefintely.  Could this be my alsa setup or is it just crappy flash code?
[02:00] <nbound> mchasard, to do what?
[02:00] <mchasard> to get opera
[02:00] <owner> nbound  modprobe snd-hda-intel;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[02:01] <owner> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=hda-intel
[02:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell mchasard about easysource
[02:01] <nbound> mchasard, just use one of the plentiful other browsers, opera isnt THAT good
[02:01] <mtlife> opera mouse gestures owns :)
[02:01] <owner> but i have an intel HDA, not sure about you nbound, but the other modules should work
[02:01] <lowman62> anyone in here ever use dban?
[02:01] <nbound> owner, nvidia sound here
[02:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell mchasard about opera
[02:02] <_jason> mchasard, I don't use opera but you'll want to read that info ubotu sent you
[02:02] <owner> nbound try this modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[02:02] <owner> see if it creates a dev/dsp
[02:02] <mchasard> this morning some guy gave me the adress and i get opera
[02:02] <mchasard> i forgot this adress
[02:02] <_jason> mchasard, check your priv msg
[02:02] <mtlife> owner; it says that alsa-oss is obsolete, or replaced by an other package
[02:02] <mchasard> so i know that theres a repository for opera
[02:03] <mtlife> do you know the name?
[02:03] <mchasard> but i have to add the good adress
[02:03] <_jason> mchasard, did you check your priv msg??
[02:03] <mchasard> yes
[02:03] <dutch> ubotu replies via PM ?
[02:03] <ubotu> dutch: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:03] <_jason> mchasard, and did you find the opera repo?
[02:03] <owner> thats weird mtlife
[02:03] <owner> it shows up in my synaptic
[02:04] <owner> did you do sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[02:04] <mtlife> yes
[02:04] <mchasard> no
[02:04] <mtlife> mayb i need another source or something
[02:05] <mtlife> package alsa-oss had no installation candidate
[02:05] <mtlife> or whatever
[02:05] <mtlife> has*
[02:06] <owner> try sudo apt-get update
[02:06] <owner> then try
[02:06] <owner> are you using breezy?
[02:06] <mtlife> did that, and then tried again.. same
[02:06] <mtlife> using 5.10, thats breezy right?
[02:06] <owner> yes
[02:06] <Sp4rKy> nbound, it seems to doesn't work
[02:07] <nbound> Sp4rKy, just use vesa drivers then
[02:07] <Sp4rKy> yes but it's not really good to game
[02:08] <nbound> Sp4rKy, try googling it i cant help much, hell ive never even used intel graphics
[02:08] <mtlife> owner where does alsa-oss show up in aptitude?
[02:08] <mtlife> let me check mine
[02:08] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i've found nothing with google
[02:09] <Sp4rKy> thx
[02:09] <owner> in synaptic i just did a search for alsa-oss
[02:09] <owner> its there
[02:09] <owner> sp4ky which intel video onboard do you have
[02:12] <cRd_x> hi there, got an error while compiling 'TekNap'. something with 'havetputs=..."
[02:12] <dodobrain> hi all
[02:12] <dodobrain> if i want to install kde on ubuntu, what do i have to do?
[02:13] <cRd_x> hrm
[02:13] <cRd_x> someone's awake?
[02:13] <cRd_x> :)
[02:13] <owner> sudo apt-get install kde
[02:13] <_jason> dodobrain, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <orion_fr_24> Hi I need proftpd expert
[02:13] <rixth> How can I find out where my CD writer is attached?
[02:13] <dopf> hi, someone experienced with 5.10 & sata2 - im unable to install
[02:13] <rixth> /dev/X?
[02:13] <cRd_x> lol
[02:13] <mtlife> doesnt show up in my aptitude
[02:14] <cRd_x> maybe a specialist there for a query?
[02:14] <mtlife> what are your links in your apt config?
[02:14] <cRd_x> ^^
[02:14] <orion_fr_24> anywone for proftpd issues ????
[02:14] <dodobrain> can i download the kubuntu-desktop files (debs) and have them locally on cdrom
[02:14] <dodobrain> i want to install it on a machine with no net connection
[02:14] <owner> mtlife i used http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:15] <owner> to generate my sources.list file
[02:15] <_jason> dodobrain, you may want to try asking in #kubuntu but I *think* you may be able to burn the kubuntu iso and use that as the source for the .deb's
[02:15] <cRd_x> could someone help me with this error please?
[02:15] <cRd_x> configure: line 5414: syntax error near unexpected token `then'
[02:15] <owner> ok crd
[02:16] <cRd_x> configure: line 5414: `       havetputs=1 if test "${ac_cv_header_term_h+set}" = set; then'
[02:16] <orion_fr_24> anywone for proftpd issues ????
[02:16] <cRd_x> --
[02:16] <cRd_x> thats all
[02:16] <owner> you are trying to compile something
[02:16] <_jason> cRd_x, are you writing this?
[02:16] <cRd_x> seems like a lib is missing
[02:16] <cRd_x> no
[02:16] <cRd_x> TekNap is a console-client for OpenNap
[02:16] <_jason> seems like a syntax error :P
[02:16] <cRd_x> lol
[02:16] <cRd_x> yes
[02:17] <cRd_x> but i think not really
[02:17] <dodobrain> _jason, ok, i'll ask there
[02:17] <owner> you have to configure, then make, then install
[02:17] <dopf> hi, someone experienced with 5.10 & sata2?
[02:17] <cRd_x> i've compiled the same on a debian-system
[02:17] <cRd_x> the same tar.gz ...
[02:17] <cRd_x> was debian sarge i386
[02:17] <cRd_x> this is a x64
[02:17] <orion_fr_24> CAN ANYBODY help me with proftpd
[02:17] <cRd_x> could this maybe the problem?
[02:18] <_jason> ubotu, tell orion_fr_24 about patience
[02:18] <cRd_x> i have no idea what is missing
[02:18] <_jason> cRd_x, what is it?  I'll try to compile it here on 386
[02:18] <owner> a lot of things arent compatible with x64
[02:19] <cRd_x> i have installed kubuntu as server
[02:19] <cRd_x> it's TekNap
[02:19] <cRd_x> i could upload it, if you don't find it for download
[02:19] <seejay> can anyone help me with a java applet development question? Its very simple
[02:19] <lowman62> Crx_x: you are possibly missing tput
[02:19] <cRd_x> thought i had installed it
[02:19] <lowman62> Crx_x: check for tput
[02:19] <cRd_x> root@groovebox:~# whereis tput
[02:19] <cRd_x> tput: /usr/bin/tput /usr/bin/X11/tput /usr/share/man/man1/tput.1.gz
[02:20] <cRd_x> seems to be installed
[02:20] <stagger> could you give me some very short instructions how to configure suid to allow normal user to halt the computer? I know, I am lame...
[02:20] <cRd_x> pP
[02:20] <cRd_x> oO
[02:20] <lowman62> Crx_x: it would seem to be
[02:21] <cRd_x> lowman62: that's strange ... it don't works anyway
[02:21] <mtlife> i think its a community package
[02:21] <cRd_x> hm?
[02:21] <mtlife> i didnt have community packages in my sources
[02:21] <mtlife> was talking to owner sorry ;)
[02:21] <lowman62> Crx_x: what is the name of the package you are trying to install again?
[02:21] <owner> does it show up now mtlife
[02:21] <owner> you might have to import the keys for some of those sources
[02:21] <owner> otherwise it errors on sudo apt-get update
[02:22] <mtlife> will look into that, it finds it now
[02:22] <stagger> could you give me some very short instructions how to configure suid to allow normal user to halt the computer? Please, please. please!!! If you don't want answer just say that I'm an asshole....
[02:23] <mtlife> didnt give any errors with installing
[02:23] <g1m> hello there
[02:23] <_jason> cRd_x, can't find the source, if you can't figure it out let me know where I can download it and I'll give it a try
[02:24] <_jason> cRd_x, never mind, found it at http://hedemarken.org/~jnbek/teknap.php, what version are you compiling?
[02:24] <g1m> i cant get my wlan ad-hoc to work, iwconfig and ifconfig looks good, but i cant ping the 2nd machine. also the network-admin says that there is no connection on wlan0. what can i do?
[02:24] <cRd_x> tried to give you the link in a query
[02:24] <cRd_x> *gg*
[02:24] <cRd_x> 1.4
[02:24] <_jason> cRd_x, you have to be registered
[02:25] <cRd_x> yes
[02:25] <cRd_x> read it
[02:25] <cRd_x> :]
[02:25] <cRd_x> later on ...
[02:25] <cRd_x> ^^
[02:25] <cRd_x> have uploaded it to http://ftp.crossaudio.fm/TekNap-1.4.tar.gz
[02:26] <lowman62> Crx_x: this says it is for bitchx..you have that installed as well as autoconf?
[02:26] <cRd_x> maybe it's a little security issue now with pasting the link
[02:26] <cRd_x> autoconf and BitchX are working
[02:26] <herder_> stagger, doesn't that work by default?
[02:26] <cRd_x> brb
[02:27] <lowman62> Crx_x: hmmm! dunno..hope you find your answer
[02:27] <stagger> no, I'm using Sarge
[02:27] <swistak> hey ppl, i have problem with firefox and middle mouse button
[02:28] <swistak> when i press it, it's acting strange, i suspect it's searching something in google
[02:28] <TCTCH> ---what is the best torrent-prog for ubuntu (gnome)?
[02:28] <swistak> with "feeling lucky" turned on
[02:28] <swistak> anyone know how to make it act like middle button in wondows ?
[02:28] <herder_> stagger, generally you just have to do chmod u+s /sbin/poweroff
[02:28] <stagger> herder_: is it possible to do that with simple command? Or maybe I have to do someting with that suid
[02:28] <swistak> so when i press it for example to open link in new tab, and i miss, i don't have to open page again ?
[02:28] <herder_> stagger, the command is poweroff
[02:29] <stagger> I made chmod u+x /sbin/halt and it doesn't helped
[02:29] <stagger> is it not the same??
[02:29] <herder_> stagger, u+x just lets root execute it, which doesn't help much... :)
[02:29] <mtlife> thx for helping owner :)
[02:29] <herder_> u+s sets the sticky bit on the user, which allows a normal user to run the command as root
[02:29] <obontu> hello, i'm new to ubuntu, i accdiently deleted my bottom bar, how do i bring it back?
[02:30] <stagger> herder_:  ooohh... I see... thank you very much for advice!!!! see you
[02:30] <owner> np
[02:30] <robin_> how can i use split screen in X?
[02:30] <herder_> np
[02:30] <obontu> how do i create a new bottom bar?
[02:30] <cRd_x> ree
[02:30] <cRd_x> sRy
[02:30] <cRd_x> :>
[02:30] <robin_> how can i use split screen in X?
[02:31] <cRd_x> _jason: have you tried to compile it?
[02:31] <gavcos> robin_, do you mean a split xterm?
[02:31] <_jason> obontu, right click on the top one and add new panel
[02:31] <_jason> cRd_x, yeah, I'm getting a different make error... looking into it
[02:31] <obontu> ah right
[02:31] <obontu> thanx
[02:31] <cRd_x> great
[02:32] <cRd_x> erm .. i meant: thank you!
[02:32] <cRd_x> errors are never great ....
[02:32] <alexandre> Hi guys! I have a new bluetooth mouse/keyboard set that I'm trying to use with Ubuntu. I read in the Breezy release notes that they're supposed to be supported right out of the box. I guess I'm stuck in the box because they don't work at all. Does anybody know how to make them work? Do I need to enabled something somewhere?
[02:35] <fr1ction> hi guys! which is the preferred mechanism in ubuntu to configure multiple network profiles (like, one for home/work/wireless each) with automatic detection which network you're in? apt-cache search (guessnet|divine|laptop-netconf|some-other-packages) to produce any hit.. I'm kind of stuck at this point!
[02:35] <fr1ction> don't produce a hit i mean
[02:36] <swistak> Anuyone have any expirience with working with two monitors ?
[02:37] <swistak> can you configure xwindow somehow that it'll work on two monitors, or mayby you can configure it so xwindow is on one, and console on other ?
[02:37] <_jason> cRd_x, ah ok, I get your error too when I downloaded you uploaded source.  Got a different one with the other source I downloaded...
[02:38] <alexandre> fr1ction: I believe the graphical network configuration tool, you can set up different network configurations and recall them at will.
[02:38] <idefix_> ok, what is free on linux and what is not?
[02:38] <swistak> i feel ignored
[02:38] <swistak> idefix_:  almost all is free
[02:39] <cRd_x> hrm
[02:39] <swistak> read license
[02:39] <idefix_> I can imagine that some fanatics start programming a good alternative OS, but at a certain point in time the must want some money for it, no?
[02:39] <tristan> idefix_ : real question is what do you need that is not free on linux...
[02:39] <cRd_x> _jason: found a solution?
[02:39] <_jason> cRd_x, I'm going to get rid of the line in a sec
[02:39] <cRd_x> i'm working on this since a view days and have noe idea anymore
[02:39] <cRd_x> -e
[02:39] <idefix_> what are they doing right now? are they transforiming all possible software which exists on windows to linux?
[02:40] <idefix_> my favorite CAD-program Vellum has no linux-version I think
[02:40] <cRd_x> i don't understand the problem ... this system has nearly the same config as my debian-server in the data-center
[02:40] <idefix_> tristan?
[02:40] <idefix_> swistak?
[02:40] <cRd_x> there it's no problem with compiling the same package
[02:40] <tristan> idefix_ : not transforming, building their own alternative programs
[02:41] <cRd_x> are there so big differences between debian and ubuntu?! ... maybe i could download the older debian-packgae and try to install this one
[02:41] <idefix_> so, it'd be an idea for me to program something Vellum-ish for linux?
[02:41] <pappan> is there a ubuntu forum that discusses live cds
[02:42] <idefix_> where can I find a list of cool linux programs?
[02:42] <_jason> cRd_x, http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=12949&mode=linearplus, at least your not alone...
[02:43] <gnudreamer> i have a dvd rom cd  which has several mpg files on it...my cd/dvdrom wont recognize the files. On my laptop however which has a dvdrom and runs xp it sees and plays the files perfectly, and help?
[02:43] <cRd_x> _jason: i know this link ^^
[02:43] <r`h> idefix_: http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/Projects/
[02:43] <_jason> cRd_x, haha yeah I thought you would
[02:43] <idefix_> thx
[02:43] <cRd_x> what is really funny: if i try to execute the bin, it also works not
[02:44] <cRd_x> never seen this before
[02:44] <cRd_x> :]
[02:44] <gnudreamer> the cd/dvd rom "sees" regular cds
[02:44] <dodobrain> cRd_x, what is that link _jason just posted?
[02:44] <dodobrain> looks like just regular install from source problems
[02:44] <idefix_> there is no CAD-category!!
[02:44] <albacker> does anybody know how to download all .txt from a directory using wget ? wget -r site.com/dir downloads everything in that dir, what about everything *.txt ? can someone help ?
[02:44] <cRd_x> it's another guy with the same problem that i hvae
[02:45] <cRd_x> have
[02:45] <_jason> dodobrain, yeah but he says it compiles fine in debian
[02:45] <cRd_x> yes, it does
[02:45] <gavcos> albacker, try the -A option
[02:45] <cRd_x> i have tested in on sarge - no problem ...
[02:45] <XeruX> the "noapic" and "noapictimer" kernel options are preventing my laptop from entering X at boot
[02:45] <dodobrain> cRd_x, you have a log of the build? paste on some site
[02:45] <albacker> gavcos, wget -A site.com/dir/*.txt ? how ?
[02:45] <XeruX> it goes black right before it's supposed to launch X
[02:45] <XeruX> Any reasons why ?
[02:45] <tristan> idefix_ : and this list is not complete. I see several program that I use on Linux for Science which are not listed
[02:45] <cRd_x> dodobrain: brb - later on!
[02:46] <gavcos> wget -r -l1 --no-parent -A.txt site.com/dir
[02:46] <idefix_> so for now, I'll have to do my CAD-work in OpenOffice draw?
[02:46] <albacker> gavcos, thanks
[02:47] <tristan> idefix_ : what is CAD?
[02:47] <idefix_> computer aided design
[02:47] <albacker> gavcos, it doesnt work tho'
[02:47] <tristan> idefix_
[02:47] <owner> there is gcad
[02:47] <owner> i mean Qcad
[02:47] <owner> lol
[02:48] <tristan> idefix_ : you can also use vector programs like inkscape
[02:48] <r`h> idefix_: If your favorite CAD program doesn't exist for Linux because the company doesn't make a port, there are plenty of options.
[02:48] <XeruX> I'm running Ubuntu Breezy badger 5.10,,, 32bit.. and everything's 2xspeed,, the clock, sound,, video.. everything. Thought noapictimer would work but it just makes my laptop go black when X is supposed to be started.
[02:48] <owner> try qcad
[02:48] <BooZee> I got a problem with my bootable (windows) partition (or something like that) - it restarting my computer every time I choose windows in the boot manager!!
[02:48] <owner> its free anyway
[02:49] <Jack-Ho> hey
[02:49] <Jack-Ho> i need help
[02:49] <gavcos> albacker, are you behind a firewall?
[02:49] <Jack-Ho> http://ilunix.org/ph?379
[02:49] <idefix_> r`h, like switching to another program?
[02:49] <albacker> gavcos, no
[02:50] <gnudreamer> i have a dvd rom cd  which has several mpg files on it...my cd/dvdrom wont recognize the files. On my laptop however which has a dvdrom and runs xp it sees and plays the files perfectly, and help?
[02:50] <gnudreamer> i have a dvd rom cd  which has several mpg files on it...my cd/dvdrom wont recognize the files. On my laptop however which has a dvdrom and runs xp it sees and plays the files perfectly, and help?
[02:50] <XeruX> YO!
[02:50] <albacker> i can download with -r option : but i download files i dont need : gana
[02:50] <albacker> gavcos * ^
[02:50] <albacker> sorry gana
[02:50] <tristan> gnudreamer : can you browse the dvd?
[02:50] <Jack-Ho> ?????
[02:50] <Jack-Ho> :L
[02:50] <gnudreamer> no
[02:51] <gnudreamer> i can only browse a regular cdrom
[02:51] <gnudreamer> cd-r
[02:51] <gavcos> albacker, are you sure you didn't put a space between the A and the .gif?
[02:51] <r`h> idefix_: Yep.
[02:51] <tzfardea> Hello, i have a problem when im trying to login my account
[02:51] <albacker> gavcos, no i didnt,
[02:51] <albacker> gavcos, anyway thanks;;
[02:51] <tzfardea> I get this error http://pastebin.com/509814
[02:52] <idefix_> r`h: but Vellum is one in a googolplex, there cannot be a better CAD-program!
[02:52] <tzfardea> I tried to search in google but i couldn't find any information in English
[02:52] <tristan> gnudreamer : so when you put your dvd, there is nothing in cdrom?
[02:52] <gnudreamer> correct
[02:52] <CactusWiZaRd> does aptitude contain any program for extracting rars?
[02:52] <Jack-Ho> CactusWiZaRd,  unrar
[02:52] <_jason> CactusWiZaRd, unrar-nonfree and unrar-free
[02:53] <tristan> gnudreamer : sorry, I don't know what you can do.... ^^'
[02:53] <CactusWiZaRd> in which category? Not Installed -> Utils?
[02:53] <dodobrain> _jason, theres an unrar_free ?
[02:53] <dodobrain> wheres this from?
[02:53] <r`h> idefix_: I've never used it. I *have* used blender3d and povray in years past, they were pretty fun. You're not going to be using this for work, are you?
[02:53] <_jason> dodobrain, yep, in universe
[02:53] <gnudreamer> me either.... it usedto work in ubuntu now it doesnt
[02:53] <dodobrain> no, i meant whereabouts is the project page
[02:53] <idefix_> some small assignment for some small company for 4 weeks
[02:53] <r`h> idefix_: Check this one out, it was open-sourced by the feds some time ago. http://sourceforge.net/projects/brlcad/
[02:54] <BooZee> i have problems with booting!
[02:54] <_jason> dodobrain, don't know, doesn't do the latest rar format though (3.0)
[02:54] <dodobrain> umm.. ok. considering most rar files are using the 3.x format :(
[02:55] <pje> hello
[02:55] <pje> :)
[02:55] <_jason> dodobrain, yeah
[02:55] <pje> which program is used for ftp on ubuntu?
[02:55] <CactusWiZaRd> hmm...
[02:55] <dodobrain> pje, ncftp, lftp, ftp, gftp, konqueror, nautilus, browser, etc. etc.
[02:56] <ompaul> pje, lots and is it server or client
[02:56] <idefix_> r`h: if I download the source do I have to compile it myself?
[02:56] <pje> nice k thx
[02:56] <gnomefreak> is anyone using FF1.5 on breezy?
[02:56] <ktogias_> pje, Try Locations -> Connect to Server (for client)
[02:56] <owner> i am gnome
[02:56] <_jason> gnomefreak, yes, don't you know about the anyone questions yet :P
[02:56] <ilba7r_away> gnomefreak,
[02:56] <ompaul> idefix_, only if you want to, in general there are packages and you don't have to do source
[02:57] <gnomefreak> owner: do you get a message saying firefox is in use
[02:57] <dodobrain> idefix_, unless you don;t want to have a binary. you don;t need to compile it ;)
[02:57] <gnomefreak> when you try to open another page?
[02:57] <owner> yes you cant run ff 1.07 and ff 1.5 at the same time
[02:57] <CactusWiZaRd> dobobrain: i found the unrar package, i'll give you the address as fast as i can, if u need it
[02:57] <idefix_> what is solaris?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> owner: im not running 1.0.7 i wouldnt think i am :(
[02:57] <owner> gnome do killall -9 firefox-bin
[02:57] <gnomefreak> idefix_: unix based OS
[02:57] <owner> in terminal
[02:58] <mtlife> i think i'm falling in love with ubuntu
[02:58] <idefix_> better fall in love with german waitresses
[02:58] <owner> lol idefix
[02:58] <mtlife> my gf is a dutch waitress ^^
[02:59] <dodobrain> hey, mtlife could be in a german restaurant right now!
[02:59] <dodobrain> :p
[02:59] <mtlife> :O
[02:59] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I had that same problem till I followed the instructs in the wiki
[02:59] <mtlife> thats where I am! now I know again
[03:00] <dodobrain> hehe..
[03:00] <gnomefreak> lowman62: i did follow them what part are you talking about :(
[03:00] <owner> gnome did you try the command i posted
[03:00] <gnomefreak> owner: yes
[03:00] <lowman62> gnomefreak: did you follow the part about touch?
[03:00] <owner> any good
[03:01] <gnomefreak> lowman62: yes but it said couldnt touch or something like that i will run it again
[03:01] <gnomefreak> owner: not sure yet :(
[03:01] <owner> or try sudo gnomefreak lowman62: yes but it said couldnt touch or something like that i will run it again
[03:01] <owner> oops
[03:01] <owner> or try sudo killall -9 firefox-bin
[03:01] <lowman62> gnomefreak: that is where the problem is
[03:02] <lowman62> gnomefreak: like owner said you will have to kill all instances of firefox
[03:03] <lowman62> gnomefreak: there is still a memory leak in firefox...don't know why they have not fixed it yet but I guess in time :P
[03:03] <r`h> idefix_: If you downloaded the source, you would most likely have to compile it yourself. Fortunately there are binaries available for several platforms.
[03:04] <gnomefreak> lowman62: ty it seemed to have fixed a few things :)
[03:04] <lowman62> gnomefreak: yw :)
[03:05] <gnomefreak> last time i ran the touch command it errored :( this time no error
[03:05] <pje> hmm
[03:05] <lowman62> gnomefreak: did you kill all instances this time?
[03:05] <Upayavira> I've just upgraded from Breezy to Hoary. So straightforward it was mildly worrying! Question: how do I confirm that the upgrade has taken place? System/About Ubuntu says "Welcome to Ubuntu Linux 5.04"
[03:05] <gnomefreak> lowman62: i did before a ran the touch command
[03:05] <pje> don't like to connect via locations > connect to serverserver
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: i would hope not :(
[03:06] <idefix_> r`h: so I download the ia32 and not the x86_64 because I have no AMD64 PC and I download tar.gz because I've never heard of tar.bz2 yet..
[03:06] <lowman62> gnomefreak: that is why it worked this time :P :)
[03:06] <pje> searched something like flash or smart
[03:06] <idefix_> ?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: did you upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[03:06] <jean__> Hi all
[03:06] <Upayavira> gnomefreak: yes
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ty lowman62 that explains alot :)
[03:06] <idefix_> r`h: ?
[03:06] <jean__> How do I install a Windows based program with .exe extension ?
[03:06] <Upayavira> gnomefreak: some things have clearly changed. Just not entirely sure what to look for!
[03:06] <lowman62> gnomefreak: yw :) ..i had that same problem big pain in the (_!_)
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ok as soon as i figure out how to scroll we will be in bisness
[03:07] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: what are you looking for?
[03:07] <jean__> installing my wifi connection
[03:07] <jean__> I have a .exe file that I need to install
[03:07] <Upayavira> gnomefreak: anything to prove that the upgrade happened! As I say, it was so straightforward I almost don't believe it!
[03:08] <idefix_> wat is tar.bz2? I search and they only tell me how to unpack it? is it better than tar.gz?
[03:08] <lowman62> jean__: i do believe you need to install ndiswrapper
[03:08] <ompaul> Upayavira, cat /etc/issue
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: go to system than about ubuntu
[03:08] <jean__> that's why I am trying to do
[03:08] <gnomefreak> you will be looking for 5.10
[03:08] <Upayavira> gnomefreak: still says hoary
[03:08] <jean__> but it directs me to some sort of *.exe file
[03:08] <ompaul> have you rebooted?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: type in terminal uname -a
[03:08] <Upayavira> yes
[03:08] <jean__> that I need to install first
[03:09] <Upayavira> Linux chandra 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Mon Oct 10 11:28:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:09] <idefix_> r`h: guess I have to find out something for myself
[03:09] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: what kernel and info does it give?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> :(
[03:09] <lowman62> jean__: I do believe it is looking for your driver for your wifi card :)
[03:09] <Upayavira> Hmm. Perhaps didn't upgrade my kernel.
[03:09] <jean__> yes
[03:09] <gnomefreak> thats hoarys kernel if i remember right
[03:09] <Upayavira> thought so.
[03:09] <ompaul> Upayavira, paste /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntu-linux.org
[03:09] <jean__> I have a Gateway 7326GZ
[03:10] <lowman62> jean__: do you have the driver on a disk?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: in terminal type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:10] <jean__> I downloaded it into a folder
[03:10] <jean__> that I've created
[03:10] <lowman62> jean__: point it to that folder where it exists then :P
[03:10] <Sh4d0x> hi
[03:11] <jean__> ok
[03:11] <lowman62> hi Sh4d0x
[03:11] <Upayavira> hmm. Paste just shows ubuntu website.
[03:11] <Sh4d0x> which was the command again to open repositories? sudo gedit ... :$
[03:11] <Sh4d0x> hi lowman62
[03:11] <jean__> lowman - then what do I do ?
[03:11] <ompaul> Upayavira, that is correct, copy and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list there
[03:12] <_jason> Sh4d0x, what ompaul said ^
[03:12] <Sh4d0x> _jason yap :D thnxx :d
[03:12] <dtamas> I have some problem with the wireless lan!
[03:12] <Sh4d0x> now i'll never forget ever again :D
[03:12] <Upayavira> Actually, I've just done dist-upgrade, and it has said 124 packages will be kept back.
[03:13] <jean__> lowman - are u there ?
[03:13] <lowman62> jean__: follow this in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[03:13] <matth> salut
[03:13] <Ng> Upayavira: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed and the upgrade should work a lot better
[03:14] <lowman62> jean__: was looking for solution for you to follow sorry
[03:14] <jean__> it's ok
[03:14] <Upayavira> Ng: did that. Will try again.
[03:14] <jean__> the problem is my wireless card
[03:14] <marvel> can ubuntu play windows media files, (wmv)?
[03:14] <jean__> is a Broadcom BCM4306
[03:14] <matth> is there any body speak french ??
[03:14] <jean__> there is not driver for it
[03:14] <lowman62> jean__: look at the bottom part about installing windows drivers if you already have ndiswrapper install correctly
[03:14] <jean__> oui matth
[03:14] <matth> hello every body
[03:14] <jean__> comment vas tu ?
[03:15] <matth> jean bien et toi
[03:15] <matth> merci de ta reponse francaise
[03:15] <ompaul> !fr
[03:15] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:15] <jean__> Yes I do
[03:15] <ilba7r> jean__, install ndiswrapper. Then install networkmanager
[03:15] <jean__> all I need is being able to
[03:15] <jean__> I did that already
[03:15] <matth> merci beaucoup ubotu et jean !!
[03:15] <idefix_> so you're saying that nobody uses linux for work?
[03:16] <jean__> Matth tu es nouveau egalement ?
[03:16] <dodobrain> idefix_, huh?
[03:16] <ocerpa> hi there
[03:16] <Royce> I need to remove the grub boot manager, please help
[03:16] <dodobrain> i use linux at and for work
[03:16] <Ng> idefix_: I'm at work right now using it :)
[03:16] <Gridblock> hey guys i need a quick answer. when i boot linux everytime i only get into the console. how do i get into the gui??
[03:16] <ocerpa> hi ogra (I'm raphink, hidden  behind another nick and vhost)
[03:16] <_jason> Gridblock, did you do an expert install?
[03:16] <deine> he
[03:16] <jean__> again to my first question
[03:16] <ogra> hey ocerpa
[03:16] <ocerpa> anyone knows how to set the microphone on gnome?
[03:17] <jean__> how do I unzip or execute this *.exe windows file ?
[03:17] <Upayavira> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop shows a host of packages that 'aren't going to be installed'. e.g. cupsys, xpdf. Trying to install them gives "depends: libc6 (>=2.3.4-1)
[03:17] <ocerpa> I use kde usuall and can't find how to do it on gnome
[03:17] <tristan> idefix_ : I am at work and I use ubuntu too
[03:17] <deine> Windows is the best program of the world
[03:17] <Gridblock> _jason, no just normal. ive gotten normaly into the os before but about 3 days ago it happend that i only got into console and not ui
[03:17] <pje> installed gftp now, how can i use it?
[03:17] <Ng> ocerpa: right click on the volume icon on the panel and you can open the full mixer
[03:17] <ilba7r> jean__, you are looking for wine. search the forums on how to use it
[03:17] <jean__> wine ?
[03:17] <Ng> Upayavira: ah, you will probably want to install ubuntu-desktop with the old sources.list first
[03:17] <ompaul> deine, wrong, so emm what would you like to do next
[03:17] <_jason> Gridblock, try: /etc/init.d/gdms start
[03:17] <jihong> hi,all
[03:17] <dodobrain> pje, run gftp from a terminal or from the menu
[03:17] <ilba7r> !wine
[03:18] <ocerpa> oh thanks much Ng ;)
[03:18] <Upayavira> Ng: thought so. Willdo
[03:18] <ocerpa> easy
[03:18] <ompaul> !+wine
[03:18] <ubotu> I guess wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[03:18] <ilba7r> !tell jean__ about wine
[03:18] <pje> how with menu?
[03:18] <s_spiff> !wine
[03:18] <pje> if i run it via terminal i can't close terminal right? :)
[03:18] <jean__> but yesterday I was able to type a command in terminal
[03:18] <dodobrain> pje, sure you can..
[03:18] <jean__> and execute a file
[03:18] <dodobrain> pje, $ gftp &
[03:18] <dodobrain> use the & to bg the task
[03:19] <jean__> today I don't remember what command I typed ?
[03:19] <deine>  I will buy tomorrow windows cause lynucs is bullshitt
[03:19] <Gridblock> _jason, ok but the first time i think i screwed up is when i took the ctrl+alt+backspace to do a quick reboot and someone told me to press ctrl+alt something
[03:19] <pje> bg?
[03:19] <ompaul> jean__, up arrow
[03:19] <Royce> Anybody know how to remove grub?
[03:19] <dodobrain> background
[03:19] <pje> kay
[03:19] <_jason> Gridblock, so now when you reboot it doesn't start?
[03:19] <ompaul> Royce, you will kill your box if you do that, what are you trying to achieve
[03:19] <Ng> Royce: if you want to go back to the windows bootloader you can boot your windows cd, go into the recovery console and run "fixmbr"
[03:19] <deine> Scheie man ihr knnt ja alle deutsch labern
[03:19] <idefix_> so if I do all my work in linux and send it to my boss who still uses windows, will he be able to read it?
[03:20] <Royce> NG, perfect thanks
[03:20] <ompaul> !tell Royce about grub
[03:20] <ompaul> Royce, that might help
[03:20] <Ng> idefix_: that depends what kind of work you do - if it's just office documents then openoffice can save in the MS Office 97/2000 formats
[03:20] <dodobrain> idefix_, depends on what the work is!
[03:20] <Gridblock> _jason, yes
[03:20] <pje> gftp and gftp bg has the same effect
[03:20] <pje> if i close terminal, gftp closes 2
[03:20] <_jason> Gridblock, strange, it shouldn't do that... I don't know offhand what's wrong
[03:20] <dodobrain> pje, gftp &
[03:21] <_jason> Gridblock, but it loaded fine when you ran that command right?
[03:21] <Upayavira> Still no luck. Reverted sources.list, did apt-get update, then tried to install ubuntu-desktop and still get dependency errors.
[03:21] <Gridblock> _jason, do you know the ctrl+alt something command for getting into ui after quick reboot?
[03:21] <pje> oh...
[03:21] <deine> LINUX is bullshit
[03:21] <pje> :)
[03:21] <Gridblock> havent done that yes
[03:21] <Gridblock> _jason, havent done that yet
[03:21] <deine> WINOWS is the best
[03:21] <dodobrain> pje, the '&' tells it to bg
[03:21] <Ng> deine: shut up
[03:21] <pje> yes
[03:21] <idefix_> ehm, there is no MS Office 97/2000 format under save as..
[03:21] <s_spiff> Gridblock, its ctrl+alt+F1,2,3, keys..till 7
[03:21] <_jason> Gridblock, ui is on 7
[03:21] <pje> :)
[03:21] <Ng> deine: it's wonderful that you prefer one over the other, but please do so silently ;)
[03:21] <Gridblock> deine, whatever you say :P
[03:21] <_jason> Gridblock, gui that is
[03:22] <s_spiff> the cli is on 1,2,3,4,5,6
[03:22] <idefix_> Ng?
[03:22] <s_spiff>  gui is on 7
[03:22] <r`h> Yes, Deine, one OS to rule them all. Everyone loves a zealot. Wait, no.
[03:22] <s_spiff> _jason, any idea why when i launch a program from the cli...terminal
[03:22] <Ng> idefix_: ?
[03:22] <Gridblock> _jason so thats how it works
[03:22] <s_spiff>  it closes when i close the terminal..
[03:22] <Upayavira> Ng: Still no luck. Reverted sources.list, did apt-get update, then tried to install ubuntu-desktop and still get dependency errors.
[03:22] <s_spiff> like pje said..
[03:22] <pje> still closes if i close terminal
[03:22] <idefix_> Ng: there is no MS Office 97/2000 format under save as with OpenOffice Draw
[03:22] <Ng> Upayavira: erk, have you installed any weird third party packages?
[03:23] <_jason> Gridblock, so if you reboot from ctrl+alt+f1 it loads you up back there? interesting, didn't know that
[03:23] <dodobrain> idefix_, it mainly depends on what your work is. if its to do 3d modelling and animation in a certain package then it might not be available for linux and you might end up using windows
[03:23] <dodobrain> it all depends on your work!
[03:23] <jean__> it looks like I've used unzip and the filename yesterday
[03:23] <ompaul> Upayavira, do this please paste the contents of your sources.list file into the paste bin
[03:23] <Gridblock> _jason, ill be back
[03:23] <Ng> idefix_: ah, it's possible that that part of openoffice doesn't support windows formats - I've never used that bit
[03:23] <jean__> and today it doesn't seem to work
[03:23] <Upayavira> ompaul: I can't find the pastebin!
[03:23] <ompaul> Upayavira, paste /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntu-linux.org
[03:23] <ompaul> that is a url
[03:24] <mah> hi
[03:24] <ompaul> 'lo
[03:24] <orion_fr_24> how can I give access to anonymous to a folder wich is outside of user's home folder
[03:24] <orion_fr_24> proftpd
[03:24] <dodobrain> orion_fr_24, the folks at #proftpd not awake? does the man page help ?
[03:25] <orion_fr_24> tryed man page
[03:25] <orion_fr_24> nothing
[03:25] <orion_fr_24> #proftpd all sleepy
[03:25] <dein>  wertw
[03:25] <dein> werg
[03:25] <dein> wg
[03:25] <dein> wg
[03:25] <pappan> woops
[03:25] <dein> wg
[03:26] <Ng> !ops
[03:26] <ubotu> Ops are annoying.
[03:26] <Ng> oh ffs
[03:26] <yatesy> laff
[03:26] <Ng> who runs ubotu anyway?
[03:26] <Ng> they should be seriously larted ;)
[03:26] <lowman62> orion_fr_24: read this http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/From_beginning_to_end_ProFTPD
[03:26] <Upayavira> ompaul: I pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7263
[03:26] <ompaul> Ng, he should not
[03:27] <_jason> nalioth, someone removed the !ops thing in ubotu
[03:27] <Rawplayer> RE
[03:27] <Ng> ompaul: should so, bloot is the worst bot engine evar ;)
[03:27] <Gridblock> _jason, it didn't work. gdms wasnt in init.d and gdms start didnt work
[03:27] <pappan> https://launchpad.net/projects/fatalnetwork click http://www.fatalnetwork.com shown in square brackets...lol
[03:27] <nalioth> _jason: i wonder who did that
[03:27] <Upayavira> ompaul/Ng: I just noticed a line at the top of the sources.list file that I suspect I didn't change from hoary->breezy when I first tried to upgrade.
[03:27] <pappan> is that a mistake.. lol
[03:27] <orion_fr_24> lowman62: thank you i ll give it a read
[03:28] <ryanpg> hi all, I'm currenly running dapper but... is there any benefit to installing/upgrading from the dapper flight 3 CD? seems like apt-get dist-upgrade should be equivalent...
[03:28] <Gridblock> _jason, it didn't work. gdms wasnt in init.d and gdms start didnt work
[03:28] <lowman62> orion_fr_24: yw :)
[03:28] <pappan> or is fatalnetwork.com h4x0r3d.. lol
[03:28] <_jason> Gridblock, you mean gdm?
[03:29] <koll> Hi
[03:29] <_jason> Gridblock, I may have made a type, /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:29] <Gridblock> _jason, didn't work that either
[03:30] <_jason> Gridblock, does it say command not found?
[03:30] <Gridblock> i think so
[03:30] <pje> hmm
[03:30] <scanwinder> when i install mozilla-plugin-vlc in ubuntu, it makes opera have a segmentation fault when i try to open it, anyone know if theres a way to fix that without removing mozilla-plugin-vlc?
[03:31] <pje> which program to make red eyes on photos go away?
[03:32] <ompaul> Upayavira, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7264
[03:32] <Gridblock> _jason, its command not found but gdm is there
[03:32] <_jacob> hello fellow ubuntuers
[03:32] <lowman62> pje: read this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#art
[03:32] <phimic> hello all
[03:33] <Gridblock> hey _jacob
[03:33] <_jacob> anyone on dapper getting locale errors
[03:33] <_jason> Gridblock, apt-get --reinstall install gdm
[03:33] <ompaul> Upayavira, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[03:33] <ompaul> Upayavira, then use the stuff in that url
[03:33] <Upayavira> ompaul/Ng: just did sed -i.bak "s/hoary/breezy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list (to be thorough)
[03:33] <_jacob> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[03:33] <phimic> i have a big prob installation ubuntu breezer on my aopen cube mz-915, the installation was ok but after reboot the system hangs on pci_hotplug
[03:33] <Upayavira> and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade now says 898 to be upgraded.
[03:34] <Upayavira> which is much more like it.
[03:34] <ompaul> Upayavira, okay, now sudp apt-get update
[03:34] <Gridblock> _jason, what now?
[03:34] <ompaul> Upayavira, okay your on your way
[03:34] <Upayavira> ompaul: :-) Thanks.
[03:34] <rseeber> hello
[03:34] <_jacob> anyone any ideas? locale, dapper?
[03:35] <_jacob> errors?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> _jacob: that is a known bug in dapper please go to bugzilla
[03:35] <gnomefreak> search for locales
[03:35] <Upayavira> ompaul: So the basic moral here is to do everything that the instructions say, not just part of it? :-P
[03:35] <_jacob> thanks gnomefreak will do
[03:35] <_jason> Gridblock, does it still fail?
[03:35] <ompaul> Upayavira, correct without the :P
[03:35] <rseeber> i was wondering if there was a program similar to the task manager in windows or at least like a gui for top from the command line
[03:35] <Gridblock> _jason, ill check, tnx man
[03:35] <gnomefreak> _jacob: also read /topic of the room
[03:36] <ompaul> !dapper
[03:36] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[03:36] <ompaul> hmm                                                                                ^^^^^^^^^
[03:36] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul i knew i saw it somewhere
[03:36] <_jacob> i know that
[03:36] <Ng> rseeber: gnome system monitor
[03:36] <Ng> rseeber: it's in Applications->System Tools
[03:36] <rseeber> Ng: thanks
[03:37] <rseeber> that's what i ws looking for
[03:37] <Gridblock> hey _jason, thanks man i think it works now :D
[03:37] <_jason> Gridblock, great
[03:38] <robin_> hi, i'
[03:38] <robin_> woopz
[03:39] <robin_> hi, i'd like to know how to use splitscreen in X without switching windowmanagers but still have the ability to use splitscreens, i'm on XFCE
[03:39] <Ng> splitscreen?
[03:39] <lowman62_away> .
[03:39] <Ng> resize the windows so they only take up half the screen? ;)
[03:40] <robin_> ... i mean without seeing other windows
[03:40] <robin_> and..
[03:40] <robin_> omfg, i'm dumb xD
[03:40] <lol> lol
[03:40] <lol> lolo
[03:40] <lol> lo
[03:40] <lol> lo
[03:40] <robin_> ...
[03:40] <lol> allahu akbar
[03:40] <_jacob> thanks guys, be healthy
[03:41] <Gridblock> _jason, so what is your expirience with linux?
[03:42] <_jason> Gridblock, join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:42] <Gridblock> _jason, ok
[03:43] <aggressor> hey can someone help me do lunch games(i have .wine)
[03:43] <robin_> hey, how to fix the problem that when a program changes resolution, the screen gets "weird"?, and with "weird" i mean LOTSA STRIPES :p
[03:43] <mindlace> aggressor: need more information to provide a meaningful answer
[03:44] <nalioth> robin_: ctrl-alt-bksp
[03:44] <nalioth> robin_: program or you changing resolution?
[03:44] <robin_> i mean so i can switch resolutions without the hassle
[03:44] <robin_> nalioth: the program, i'd like to play games
[03:44] <nalioth> robin_: i'd suggest changing resolutions before starting the game
[03:44] <robin_> but they're adjusted to 1204x768
[03:44] <robin_> hmm..
[03:44] <aggressor> mindlace, i cant get my games work, thats a point :d
[03:44] <robin_> k
[03:44] <robin_> and how to get radeon 9200 support? :p
[03:45] <aggressor> mindlace, if i download games for linux i use command in terminal (sh) but if install is done i gonna get many errors
[03:46] <lunatech> are there any ops around ?
[03:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell robin_ about ati
[03:46] <lunatech> i wanted to add something to the /topic
[03:46] <nalioth> lunatech: what do you need?
[03:46] <mindlace> aggressor: if it is a linux game you don't need .winerc
[03:46] <mindlace> aggressor: can you give an example of a game you are trying to run and the command you are executing to run it?
[03:47] <lunatech> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-non-tech/message/6040
[03:47] <lunatech> mark shuttleworth will be in our office
[03:47] <aggressor> mindlace, i have try GTA command : sh gta.x86.run
[03:47] <nalioth> lunatech: so what did you want in the /topic?
[03:48] <lunatech> yes
[03:48] <lunatech> oh
[03:48] <lunatech> just 'mark shuttleworth in bangalore, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-non-tech/message/6040"
[03:49] <mindlace> aggressor: and then it gives some kind of error?
[03:49] <nalioth> lunatech: run your idea past Seveas when he arrives
[03:49] <aggressor> mindlace, yes many
[03:50] <mindlace> Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste them all and I will look at them
[03:51] <aggressor> mindlace, cannot find a suitable display mode
[03:51] <Seveas> lunatech, mark shottleworth visits lots of places - adding his whereabouts in the topic will be relevant for at most 1 person at the time in here...
[03:51] <mindlace> aggressor: ok, so you don't have the right X configuration
[03:51] <ompaul> out of 624 atm
[03:51] <dusk> so i just ditched debian for nubuntu
[03:51] <mindlace> aggressor: what kind of video card?
[03:51] <ompaul> dusk, you could have had ubuntu :)
[03:51] <dusk> can i run it as an up-to-date desktop?
[03:51] <lunatech> Seveas: i see. actually he was going to be here for UbuntuBusinessTour .. so wanted to publicize the event
[03:52] <dusk> umm, well, convince me
[03:52] <aggressor> mindlace, this is my friends comp, this have 4mb
[03:52] <aggressor> mindlace, but for gta it must work
[03:52] <aggressor> mindlace, where i can check my comp stats
[03:53] <cello_rasp> oh hello - gnome is pretty screwed. root cant start it. aditinally user cant start becaus it cant cd into /home/$user
[03:53] <mindlace> aggressor: gta might still require some accelleration of some kind
[03:53] <Seveas> lunatech, Ubuntu business tour and jdubs 3bt are not really relevant for this channel since it's mainly a support channel
[03:53] <dusk> nubuntu looks more geared for the stuff i like to do.. what kind of functionality do I lose from nubuntu/ubuntu.  I am a student in infosec/security engineering
[03:53] <ompaul> dusk, using breezy - please note that unstable in ubuntu terms is more like experimental in debian - however the same bundle of packages move to stable over 6 months
[03:53] <lunatech> ok Seveas
[03:53] <cello_rasp> can anyone help me get gnome back>
[03:53] <mindlace> aggressor: I don't have an ubuntu desktop here, but I think it's in one of the top menus
[03:53] <dusk> ompaul: yea, that solid release schedule is what got me to switch in the first place
[03:54] <ompaul> dusk, here is one for you, I did not know there was an nubuntu
[03:54] <mindlace> cello_rasp: you don't seem to have your userdir mounted, or your userdir doesn't exist
[03:54] <dusk> oh, heh
[03:54] <ompaul> dusk,  I thought it was a typo
[03:54] <cello_rasp> ur.. it is. shush.
[03:54] <mindlace> cello_rasp: so you probably want to see what partitions are mounted (I like df -h )
[03:54] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, do ls -l /home/username
[03:54] <k0|1s> hi, i'm a windows xp user and i aim to install ubuntu, i've some questions in my mind, whom can i ask?
[03:54] <dusk> ompaul: nubuntu.org
[03:55] <dusk> k0|1s, whats up?
[03:55] <cheemstb> Hi Everyone
[03:55] <ompaul> dusk, I'm looking, interesting
[03:55] <ompaul> !anyone
[03:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:55] <cello_rasp> mindlace: /home is not a partition, so stop giving unhelpful advice based on your own random guesses. thanks.
[03:56] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: all permissinos are to user.
[03:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cello_rasp: I have a specific partition for /home :p
[03:56] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, does the user have read and execute permissions for that directory
[03:56] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, And what did you do to break it...
[03:57] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: yeah
[03:57] <tristan> k0|1s : anyone
[03:57] <k0|1s> what are the possible problems of installing ubuntu on a computer with xp?
[03:57] <aggressor> mindlace,  You DO NEED wine(x) to play the game!' that was in README
[03:57] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: i sudo ./installed something called gprename
[03:58] <nalioth> k0|1s: you might see how XP is less useful
[03:58] <tristan> k0|1s : I would say none. But if you want to have both Windows and Ubuntu, you should make partition of your HD
[03:58] <ScreaminIke> ...
[03:58] <ScreaminIke> can someone help me get my Audacity working?
[03:58] <k0|1s> how can i make partition? does ubuntu install make this for me
[03:58] <tristan> k0|1s : I would advise you to make one partition for Windows system files, one for Linux system files and one for your data
[03:58] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, What is the error message you get again?
[03:58] <nalioth> k0|1s: the installer can do this for you, yes.
[03:59] <ScreaminIke> i agree with tristan
[03:59] <ScreaminIke> and nalioth is right
[03:59] <ScreaminIke> (you can get a program to make windows support ext2/ext3)
[03:59] <tristan> And to have your data partition formated in fat32
[03:59] <SEJeff> k0|1s, Make sure to run defrag and chkdsk on your windows partition before installing ubuntu. I've seen the partition shrinking aspect of the ubuntu installer fail when the windows drive needed to be defragged
[03:59] <k0|1s> would it be more beneficial and effective to use a program like Partition Magic, or is it good enough to leave it to the arms of ubuntu install
[04:00] <SEJeff> k0|1s, good enough for the install. Probably easier also
[04:00] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: "starting gnome display manager.. [failed] " some other fails are kernel log daemon.. HP LPIS and deferred execution scheduler
[04:00] <k0|1s> Thanks
[04:00] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, Would you happen to get any crazy errors in /var/log/messages?
[04:01] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, and how comfortable are you with the command line?
[04:01] <dodobrain> SEJeff, err.. really? is the ubuntu partition manager easier to use than pqmagic ?
[04:01] <duzchip> Hi
[04:01] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: i can do basic stuff but dont ask me to do something on it without being explicit :|
[04:01] <nalioth> dodobrain: it is quite nice to work with (and totally free of charge)
[04:01] <SEJeff> dodobrain, You tell it to resize your partition... you tell it how big you want the partition to be. It does it for you. It's that simple
[04:02] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, ok. You know how virtual terminals work, right?
[04:02] <dodobrain> nalioth, i'm aware of its free nature. just noting that pqmagic is one of the easier partition managers around
[04:02] <nalioth> dodobrain: and also costs money. parted and its qt and gtk skinned frontends are just as effective
[04:02] <SEJeff> dodobrain, I would still say that yes, it's pretty easy to use the ubuntu partition manager to just resize partitions and install ubuntu
[04:02] <dodobrain> nalioth, is the ubuntu installer using gparted or qtparted?
[04:02] <SEJeff> dodobrain, just parted
[04:03] <Ng> neither
[04:03] <Ng> it's a text interface to libparted afaik
[04:03] <robin_> i have an idea..
[04:03] <robin_> a very good idea..
[04:03] <robin_> a mega-idea..
[04:03] <nalioth> dodobrain: the installer uses parted, iirc
[04:03] <robin_> and i'm making it right now ^_^
[04:03] <dodobrain> err.. i meant parted cos qtparted and gparted are the same thing!
[04:03] <ScreaminIke> can someone help me get my Audacity working?
[04:03] <SEJeff> dodobrain, not really. qtparted upstream development is pretty much dead. gparted upstream development is active. So if you have problems, you should use gparted
[04:04] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: i'm using vterms quite happily.
[04:04] <nalioth> dodobrain: you'll find in the *nix world that most times the console version of the program is far superior to any gui that drives it
[04:04] <dodobrain> nalioth, i'm well aware of that.
[04:04] <robin_> guys..
[04:04] <dodobrain> what i meant was 'ease of use' for (likely) beginners
[04:04] <robin_> i'm making a package manager
[04:04] <robin_> :)
[04:04] <robin_> a very good one xD
[04:04] <dodobrain> huh?
[04:04] <duzchip> Any swedish Ubuntuusers here?
[04:05] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, see if you see any strange errors in /var/log/messages. You could do sudo less /var/log/messages
[04:05] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: it gave a lot of errors from gconfd
[04:05] <robin_> yea if you use your brain.. why think you should create a whole new package manager, if you can just make a script that uses them all to have an all-distro package-manager script?
[04:05] <nalioth> dodobrain: either g- or qtparted are fine for beginners (high resemblance to PM)
[04:05] <robin_> a script that can even install from source
[04:05] <robin_> :)
[04:05] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, If you are getting an error that says you can't change into /home/$USER and the permissions are correct as you say, thats very odd
[04:05] <robin_> a script that is very small
[04:05] <robin_> just a simple perl script :)
[04:05] <dodobrain> nalioth, umm.. which is why i asked if the installer uses either of them :)
[04:06] <dodobrain> robin_, err.. ever looked at autopackage?
[04:06] <SEJeff> robin_, that is impossible. Package names across distros are different and sometimes conflict or nonexistant
[04:06] <robin_> ohh..
[04:06] <duzchip> SEJeff, nothing is impossible
[04:06] <robin_> well
[04:06] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: timed out, failed to open logfile, wont restore listeners. there are no gnome-related errors after that forced shutdown.
[04:06] <robin_> mine detects extensions
[04:06] <robin_> :)
[04:06] <robin_> i'm creating it right now :p
[04:06] <duzchip> but it is probably too much time for anyone to actually wanna make it
[04:06] <dodobrain> i don;t mean to discourage. but its better if you research into whats currectly available before you dig into coding
[04:07] <robin_> it's really damn simple to make :|
[04:07] <Ng> robin_: sounds like you're describing an ebuild
[04:07] <Seveas> and to take this horribly offtopic discussion elsewhere...
[04:07] <robin_> Ng: sorta ;)
[04:07] <nalioth> dodobrain: the installer uses 'partman' which calls parted
[04:07] <duzchip> robin_, it is? mind showing me some of the code you've written this far on it?
[04:07] <robin_> Ng: one that supports binaries, source, rpms, all things
[04:07] <robin_> duzchip: only some commetns and a usage thing
[04:07] <nalioth> robin_: please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:07] <SEJeff> robin_, extensions don't matter. Ubuntu, Mepis, Linspire, Xandros are all based on Debian. That doesn't mean packages from one will work at all on the other. They all use .deb
[04:07] <robin_> k :p
[04:08] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, ls -l /var/log/messages
[04:08] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, You've got something messed up alright
[04:09] <cello_rasp> ok.. if this problem is too complex could someone please tell me how to mount this usb flash drive as so to back up /home ?
[04:09] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[04:09] <mtlife> networking question: how do i get 2 nics working?
[04:09] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdrive
[04:10] <mtlife> when i activate one, it works.. but when i activate both of them i cant reach my box from outside
[04:10] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, sudo mv /home/$USER /media/usbdrive
[04:10] <ejofee> is there any way i can ensure a minimum bandwidth for my ssh tunnel, so that all trafic on the remote machine may leave my tunnel unaffected?
[04:10] <dodobrain> mtlife, its probably messing up the routing table
[04:10] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: would cp work also?
[04:11] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, Sorry, I'm really tired
[04:11] <mtlife> dodobrain how can i fix that
[04:11] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, cp -R
[04:11] <cello_rasp> thanks for not saying "hurrrr man mount" :))
[04:12] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, I really hate it when people do that. Thats why I got pissed at debian many years ago when first learning linux
[04:12] <cello_rasp> one could spend hours trolling like that and get away with it.
[04:12] <ScreaminIke> ... i really want some help running audacity
[04:13] <nalioth> ScreaminIke: tried #audacity ?
[04:13] <ScreaminIke> no one there
[04:13] <[dEvIL-bOY] > helloz
[04:13] <ScreaminIke> 'cept me
[04:13] <ScreaminIke> as soon as i run it... i get this "you won't be able to record or play audio"
[04:13] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, I'm not trolling. It turned me off of debian and I used gentoo/suse/redhat up until I tried out Ubuntu
[04:14] <ScreaminIke> andi'm thinkin "what's the friggin point?"
 I prefer 'du -h' for human readable output vs kb or bytes
[04:15] <duzchip> cello_rasp, how old are you?
[04:15] <cello_rasp> grep windoze LOLOll
[04:15] <cello_rasp> duzchip: old enough to recognise sarcasm
[04:16] <imc_> Anyone got Breezy running on an iBook?
[04:16] <looksaus> imc_, I had breezy, now I'm running Dapper
[04:16] <cello_rasp> thanks SEJeff.
[04:16] <imc_> looksaus, great. Did you get the airport working?
[04:16] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, np
[04:16] <looksaus> on dapper, yes, but there are some small annoyances
[04:17] <imc_> Oh? Shall we PM about it or can you talk  here?
[04:17] <looksaus> (that's to say, I got it to scanning the networks in the neighbourhood)
[04:17] <looksaus> unfortunately, I'm at work
[04:17] <duzchip> cello_rasp, i've just never seen a mature person ever answer a person asking a question with "u stupid nub!!" but okey, you are probably the best (hope you see recognise this sarcasm aswell)
[04:17] <tuxie> anyone here familiar with apt-build or apt-src? I'm trying to install kde 3.5.0 on ppc from the kubuntu source-packages but I'm having problems..
[04:17] <imc_> Gotchya, looksaus, but basically can you associate with and use WEP or WPA protected wifi hotspots?
[04:18] <Hentai^XP> ok
[04:18] <Hentai^XP> ohhh wrong area
[04:19] <tuxie> apt-src doesn't build dependencies even though I have APT::Src::BuildDeps "true"; in $HOME/.apt-src/config and apt-build refuse to see kde 3.5.0 and tries to build 3.4.2 instead..
[04:19] <ScreaminIke> why won't this command work... even when i'm root?
[04:19] <ScreaminIke> root@swarmCraft:/home/swarm# pwnzor the n00bz
[04:19] <ScreaminIke> bash: pwnzor: command not found
[04:19] <imc_> looksaus, just quickly: can you associate with and use WEP or WPA protected wifi hotspots? and any mouse / touchpad drama?
[04:19] <jblack> Hi. I'm looking for gobi. I thought it was in ubuntu, but I don't see it now
[04:20] <xmen> 1
[04:20] <cello_rasp> i think i love u ScreaminIke
[04:21] <ScreaminIke> :)
[04:21] <nalioth> ScreaminIke: please take those witticisms to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <ScreaminIke> sorry nalioth
[04:21] <ScreaminIke> i really do need help with audacity
[04:22] <nalioth> ScreaminIke: there was nobody in #audacity ?
[04:22] <ScreaminIke> nope
[04:24] <mtlife> i already got the problem
[04:24] <mtlife> i think one of my nics is broken
[04:25] <Guardian> hello
[04:25] <Guardian> i installed xubuntu on my laptop, how to gain suspend to ram and suspend to disk ?
[04:26] <cello_rasp> Guardian: is xubuntu another version of ubuntu>
[04:26] <Guardian> it's ubuntu + xfce
[04:26] <cello_rasp> i would also like to know this.. i have tried gnome-laptop-tools i think
[04:26] <Guardian> what's worrying me is that the xubuntu wiki tells to install xubuntu in server mode, then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <cello_rasp> niiiice
[04:26] <Guardian> i guess the whole process misses laptop stuff
[04:27] <chode_> is lynx included in a base ubuntu install?
[04:27] <|GaiJin|> What ftp-servers are folks using?
[04:28] <trappist> I like pure-ftpd
[04:28] <|GaiJin|> tried to set it up... but just get the message that it cant find the password file...
[04:28] <nalioth> chode_: it is not
[04:29] <obontu> hello, how do i create a shortcut of home on my desktop?
[04:29] <annemarie> Does anyone know how I can play mp3files in Ubuntu?
[04:29] <sweet_kate> hi
[04:29] <jasonr_> ubotu: tell annemarie about mp3
[04:29] <trappist> !tell annemarie about mp3
[04:29] <sweet_kate> amarok
[04:29] <chode_> nalioth: thx. i'll install it.
[04:29] <sweet_kate> annemarie:
[04:29] <annemarie> Ive installen it yesterday on my computer,
[04:30] <trappist> wow ubotu is cool
[04:30] <annemarie> ja?
[04:30] <sweet_kate> !no-ip
[04:30] <ubotu> sweet_kate: Are you smoking crack?
[04:30] <Katie^> trappist, until you actually want to do something constructive
[04:30] <sweet_kate> !noip
[04:30] <ubotu> sweet_kate: Syntax error in line 1
[04:30] <ScreaminIke> ubotu: tell screaminike about mp3
[04:30] <sweet_kate> annemarie:  frenc you'
[04:30] <obontu> please tell me how to create a shortcut of my home folder on my desktop
[04:30] <trappist> ScreaminIke: if you want to know, do /msg ubotu mp3
[04:30] <sweet_kate> annemarie:  french you'?
[04:31] <annemarie> I'm French??
[04:31] <mindlace> snort ... I love how cello_rasp tells me off for my advice and then has SEJeff giving him similar advice later
[04:31] <Jemt> Greetings
[04:31] <ktogias_> I have connected to my breezy pc a usb disk (ide2usb case). The disk is functioning, but after a couple of days with no reboot, i see duplicate/removed entries for my removable storage devices in Places -> Computer (eg. My cdrom drive is replaced by "CD-RW/DVD+R Drive (2)" that points to my cdrw device) and thus I am unable to access some of my removable media (in the particular case cdrom drive). Can anyone guess what fails and how could t be
[04:31] <ktogias_>  fixed/restarted without rebooting the OS?
[04:31] <Katie^> is there anyway i can move a folder with music in it from ubuntu to the windows partition?
[04:31] <sweet_kate> people how do i install a program downaloaded? it sayas to eun "make"
[04:31] <sweet_kate> i run but nothing!
[04:31] <sweet_kate> eun = run
[04:32] <matth> hello escuse me can you give me the french chanel because i lost it ? thnk you so much
[04:32] <sweet_kate> how do i make a file?
[04:32] <ompaul> Katie^, so you need to have a partition in the middle a "fat32" one is usually best
[04:32] <trappist> Katie^: if it's fat32, yes.  if it's ntfs, not really.
[04:32] <nalioth> sweet_kate: waht program is it?
[04:32] <trappist> matth: #ubuntu-fr
[04:32] <tristanmike> matth, #ubuntu-fr
[04:32] <mindlace> sweet_kate: try going into the directory and then do:
[04:32] <mindlace> ./configure
[04:32] <mindlace> make
[04:32] <mindlace> make install
[04:32] <matth> thx
[04:32] <mindlace> (might have to do
[04:32] <mindlace> sudo make install
[04:32] <Guardian> :(((
[04:32] <Guardian> just ran /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[04:33] <Guardian> it crashed badly
[04:33] <Guardian> never seen so strange things on the screen :D
[04:33] <lowman62_away> Katie^: do u have more than one computer or is this on a dual boot system?
[04:34] <lowman62> .
[04:34] <nalioth> mindlace: please don't give that advise, the program sweet_kate may be available to her
[04:34] <nalioth> sweet_kate: what program is it?
[04:34] <SEJeff> sweet_kate, apt-cache search programname
[04:34] <Katie^> dual boot
[04:35] <sweet_kate> no-ip updater client!
[04:35] <sweet_kate> downloaded from its site!
[04:35] <Katie^> but how do i do it/
[04:35] <ompaul> midsleep, do not paste or use enter if you want to put several commands back to back you can do this and it work on the command line >> ./configure&& make && make install &&  then if it fails all commands after it fail too, you can do this ./config ; make but if a step fails then it tries to do the rest this may not have a good outcome
[04:35] <lowman62> Katie^: then yes I would create a fat32 partition for both to access
[04:35] <nalioth> sweet_kate: what is the link to the site, please?
[04:35] <Katie^> how do i do that :( lol
[04:36] <sweet_kate> no-ip.com download section nalioth !
[04:36] <lowman62> Katie^: personally I use partitionmagic for windows...errmm! you have that?
[04:36] <intero> i have installed gnome-volume-manager but i still don't see usb pen appearing on my desktop. do i need to enable something?
[04:36] <trappist> sweet_kate: sudo apt-get install no-ip
[04:36] <Katie^> i could get it
[04:36] <Katie^> ive used it before but not well
[04:36] <Katie^> lol
[04:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sweet_kate about compile
[04:37] <nalioth> sweet_kate: check your private messages
[04:37] <trappist> there's a package, folks
[04:37] <kurt> how do you install mplayer on the 64 bit?
[04:37] <trappist> in universe
[04:37] <lowman62> Katie^: well the reason I say that is that it would be easier to do from the windows side of your system then just mount it from the ubuntu side
[04:38] <lowman62> Katie^: then you should be able to access your mp3's or whatever from bothsides
[04:38] <lowman62> ;)
[04:38] <Katie^> okay, there'll be a walkthrough wont thereo n google somewhere
[04:39] <Katie^> bbiab then
[04:39] <Jemt> Where can I change the path where Apache looks for HTML/PHP files ?
[04:39] <cello_rasp> is there an ubuntu install for i686?
[04:39] <Jemt> Can't seem to find it in apache2.conf
[04:40] <lowman62> Katie^: If you are going to use partitionmagic just use the resize widows partiton wizard and resize the windows partition and format it as fat32...you will see it is easy in partitionmagic
[04:40] <joesmith> i am trying to use a frontpage client with apache; believe I've loaded all of the frontpage extensions from the package manager, but frontpage client still claims the frontpage server extensions are not installed. any ideas?
[04:40] <mindlace> nalioth: she was asking about a download... i figure answering the question is the charitable thing
[04:40] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i delete an failed installation of Firefox 1.5?
[04:41] <mindlace> ompaul: good advice
[04:41] <cello_rasp> cant ubu handle NTFS? if so i whould use that than fat32... you are rather limited in path length and names in fat32
[04:41] <ompaul> mindlace, :-) I try
[04:41] <nalioth> mindlace: lots of new users in here are ignorant of universe and multiverse repositories. non official ubuntu pkgs can break ubuntu
[04:41] <mindlace> good point, nalioth
[04:41] <ubuntudvd32> I have installed epcam from source for creative webcam pd1001 but now having this error "epcam: Unknown symbol remap_page_range" any suggestion
[04:41] <ScreaminIke> can someone walk me through making a shell script that just echoes something to the screen... then setting up a command to execute that script?
[04:41] <lowman62> joesmith: read this http://www.e-gineer.com/v1/instructions/install-frontpage-extensions-for-apache-on-linux.htm
[04:42] <jojoried> can someone tell me how to log in as root?
[04:42] <mtlife> ok trouble:
[04:42] <mindlace> jojoreid: sudo su -
[04:42] <joesmith> lowman62: thanks. I'll look there
[04:42] <mtlife> i replaced a nic in my box, now it hangs when accessing the new nic
[04:42] <lowman62> joesmith: yw :)
[04:42] <jojoried> ok thanks
[04:42] <mtlife> i think it is because of a wrong module, but how do I let ubuntu know its a new nic?
[04:43] <kurt> how do you install mplayer on the 64 bit?
[04:44] <lowman62_away> .
[04:44] <pje> hi
[04:44] <pje> anyone has time to configure my **** skype? :)
[04:45] <Ng> kurt: enable universe and multiverse and it'll be available
[04:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jojoried about root
[04:45] <nalioth> mindlace: again, this is not advised in ubuntu
[04:45] <Jemt> Where can I change the path where apache looks for PHP files? Currently it is /var/www - but I wan't to change it to /media/hda2/pro
[04:45] <annemarie> when I try to install a gstreamer0.8-mad, an error appears
[04:45] <nalioth> mindlace: this is not debian, or redhat. ubuntu is 'different'
[04:45] <rwabel> I've 2 linuxes installed and on hda5 is GRUB installed. But I would like to have it on hda6, so I can remove partition hda5. What's the best way to move grub to hda6?
[04:45] <kurt> i have
[04:46] <Ng> Jemt: in /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf most likely
[04:46] <pje> skype :)
[04:46] <kurt> i've then tried apt-get update; apt-get mplayer
[04:46] <kurt> and nothing..
[04:46] <Jemt> Ng: Can't find it
[04:46] <ubuntudvd32> help needed installing webcam creative pd1001
[04:46] <Ng> Jemt: /etc/apache2/...etc?
[04:46] <annemarie> how to install gstreamer?
[04:46] <mwe> kurt: mplayer-386
[04:47] <kurt> i have 64 installed though..
[04:47] <mtlife> help me, ubuntu hangs when accessing eth0, but only when the network cable is plugged in
[04:47] <Ng> kurt: try apt-cache search mplayer
[04:47] <Ng> that'll show you the exact versions available
[04:47] <kurt> alright
[04:47] <yggdrasil_> good morning folks
[04:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell annemarie about multimedia
[04:48] <dooglus> annemarie: what error do you get?
[04:48] <annemarie> Translated:
[04:48] <Jemt> Ng: Can't find the file nor the line to modify
[04:48] <annemarie> He can't find the file,
[04:48] <annemarie> while
[04:48] <annemarie> it should exist
[04:48] <nalioth> annemarie: ubotu sent you some info to read
[04:48] <cello_rasp> are all my thunderbird settings and emails stored under /home/$user ?
[04:48] <nalioth> cello_rasp: yes.
[04:48] <Ng> Jemt: if you have apache installed it'll be in /etc/apache/ or /etc/apache2/ called httpd.conf
[04:49] <annemarie> yes, thankz
[04:49] <yggdrasil_> heylo nailoth how you doin today
[04:49] <Jemt> Ng: I can't find the line to modify!!
[04:49] <Ng> Jemt: DocumentRoot
[04:49] <Ng> search for that
[04:49] <dooglus> annemarie: you get an error when you run "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"?
[04:49] <Jemt> Thanks, Ng :)
[04:50] <dooglus> cello_rasp: I don't use thunderbird, so I'm not sure, but try ~/.mozilla/thunderbird/
[04:50] <sweet_kate> how do i see all my running processes?
[04:50] <dooglus> cello_rasp: that's a guess based on the fact that firefox stores its stuff in ~/.mozilla/firefox...
[04:50] <annemarie> dooglus: yes
[04:51] <dooglus> sweet_kate: just your processes?
[04:51] <sweet_kate> yes
[04:51] <sweet_kate> dooglus:
[04:51] <kitty_> Can someone please tell me what i need to go to to reformat an mp3 player
[04:51] <yggdrasil_> wich one is it kitty_
[04:51] <sweet_kate> dooglus: so?
[04:51] <annemarie> kitty_: Im try to do the same at the moment:P
[04:51] <dooglus> sweet_kate: you probably want to go to System>Administration>SystemMonitor
[04:51] <yggdrasil_> makefs ?
[04:51] <kitty_> Umm... what do you mean??? Its my mp3 player...?
[04:52] <dooglus> sweet_kate: unless you would prefer a non-gui answer?
[04:52] <sweet_kate> i want to show my running processes by shell
[04:52] <sweet_kate> yes dooglus
[04:52] <yggdrasil_> what model is it kitty_ ipod.. zen ...
[04:52] <dooglus> sweet_kate: I use "ps -Hfudooglus"
[04:52] <dooglus> sweet_kate: you probably need to change the name
[04:52] <kitty_> just a storage device... nothin fancy
[04:53] <yggdrasil_> is it mounted ?
[04:53] <rseeber> is there another unbuntu apt preository that has more up-to-date software? (ie firefox/thunderbird 1.5 - i know i can install them myself, but i was just wondering if i could get it through there)
[04:53] <inez> Hello, Ik can't find "paint" on Ubuntu. Can you help me?
[04:53] <kitty_> yer
[04:53] <yggdrasil_> just do a mount to see what file system its using
[04:53] <Ng> rseeber: nope
[04:53] <kitty_> hang on
[04:53] <rseeber> *repository
[04:53] <Jemt> Ng: Didn't work. DocumentRoot didn't exist. I added it but no difference
[04:53] <rseeber> ok
[04:53] <kitty_> it just says mp3player1
[04:53] <Jemt> Ng: And I have restarted Apache
[04:53] <Ng> Jemt: was it /etc/apache/ or apache2 in the end?
[04:54] <inez> I can't find paint on Ubuntu. Can somebody help me?
[04:54] <Jemt> apache2
[04:54] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ try sudo cfdisk
[04:54] <Jemt> Ng: Apache2
[04:54] <nalioth> inez: go to ##windows please
[04:54] <selinium> inez: the program you are looking for is GIMP
[04:54] <Jemt> Ng: I have installed Apache2 - obviously :)
[04:54] <Ng> Jemt: in that case it's probably in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[04:54] <inez> Selinium: Thanks
[04:54] <inez> bye bye
[04:54] <mindlace> nalioth: I understand that ubuntu doesn't have root enabled by default ... I should've said "sudo su", which is still sometimes necessary
[04:54] <cello_rasp> how do i unmount/eject a usb drive in terminal?
[04:55] <nalioth> mindlace: sudo -i is preferred
[04:55] <pje> am i the only one having problems with skype?
[04:55] <kitty_> now what an i meant to see...???? I thought it would be simple...
[04:55] <robin_> can someone give me a lightweight test deb package for ubuntu? i mean some little app
[04:55] <dooglus> cello_rasp: unmount with "umount /mount/point" and eject with eject?
[04:55] <robin_> cuz i'm making a package system script :0
[04:55] <robin_> :)
[04:55] <nalioth> robin_: in #ubuntu-offtopic we can help you
[04:55] <robin_> and it's kinda working :)
[04:55] <rseeber> b,nmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnmnnmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,                                                                                /msg nickserv register
[04:55] <robin_> i know
[04:55] <robin_> but they ain't answering
[04:56] <nalioth> robin_: i'm in several channels, have patience. your pkg script topic does not belong in here
[04:56] <robin_> k :p
[04:56] <Ng> robin_: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ it probably has loads of packages
[04:56] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ cfdisk is pretty simple\
[04:56] <cello_rasp> dooglus: not responding... argh
[04:56] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ did your drive show up there ?
[04:56] <dooglus> cello_rasp: ?
[04:57] <Jemt> Ng: Thanks alot :)
[04:57] <kitty_> yer my main drives but not the mp3 player
[04:57] <mindlace> nalioth: what's the difference? does that mean every subsequent command is logged?
[04:57] <yggdrasil_> crap and its mounted ?your sure ?
[04:57] <DarthDevilous> can anyone suggest a c++ IDE?
[04:57] <minntc> Is anyone aware of a way to assign a hotkey (Like Ctrl+Shift+F1, F2, etc.) to each virtual desktop, rather than Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right? (In Gnome 2.12)
[04:58] <nalioth> mindlace: sudo su is redundant and unnecessary, sudo -i gives you a command shell (superuser shell)
[04:58] <mindlace> ok, so it's a semantic difference
[04:58] <nalioth> DarthDevilous: kdevelop? eclipse with c++ plugin?
[04:58] <turbofisk> does ubuntu have in the box support for HFS+?
[04:58] <DarthDevilous> k thx
[04:58] <dooglus> mindlace: 'sudo' and 'su' both switch to the root user by default.  you don't need to use them both
[04:58] <nalioth> mindlace: the devs all say to use sudo -i
[04:58] <mindlace> "-i" vs "su" seems equivalent
[04:58] <nalioth> mindlace: i dont use command shells
[04:58] <Thorondor> hi everyone
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> LAWL
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> :)
[04:58] <mindlace> ok, well, now I know :)
[04:59] <kitty_> yer my main drives but not the mp3 player
[04:59] <Thorondor> what does the "wa" stand for in top in the cpu usage row?
[04:59] <mindlace> Thorondor: How much your machine is crying.
[04:59] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ hang on a sec i think try gparted
[04:59] <minntc> 'sudo su' and 'sudo su -' / 'sudo -i' are different though. you may not want a root login shell...X can play funny in that situation
[05:00] <Mapionetka> so you use linux, but you dont use the command line? rofl
[05:00] <yggdrasil_> uh sudo ofcourse
[05:00] <teleyinex> hi
[05:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hello peeps
[05:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > anyone knows about codecs
[05:00] <Thorondor> mindlace: that doesn't help me _that_ much.
[05:00] <teleyinex> some one uses an imac keyboard?
[05:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ubotu, codecs
[05:00] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:00] <kitty_> nice one!!
[05:00] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ you might have to install it.
[05:00] <mtlife> how can i change the module used by a nic? ubuntu uses 8139too but I need 8139cp
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu, tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about multimedia
[05:00] <yggdrasil_> jeezuz
[05:01] <turbofisk> does ubuntu support for HFS+ as default?
[05:01] <teleyinex> because I dont know if I can change two keys: alt-key and apple-key
[05:01] <mtlife``o> how can i change the module used by a nic? ubuntu uses 8139too but I need 8139cp
[05:02] <dooglus> mindlace: it's not just a semantic difference.  "sudo su" uses more memory than "sudo -i", and results in one extra process being run (the 'su')
[05:02] <teleyinex> they are in different places, comparing this keyboard and a pc keyboard
[05:02] <teleyinex> can i do something?
[05:03] <pmjdebruijn> hi folks
[05:03] <mindlace> Thorondor: sorry, it referrs to the percentage of your tasks that are active
[05:03] <pmjdebruijn> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bruijn9/temp/Screenshot-QEMU-boot-progress.png
[05:03] <dooglus> mindlace: it's kind of the same difference as the difference between running "ls" compared to "bash -c ls".  they both do 'the same', but the first is more efficient
[05:03] <mindlace> iirc
[05:03] <pmjdebruijn> what part of the CDROM boot process does that? isolinux? grub?
[05:04] <dooglus> Thorondor: it stands for "wait"
[05:04] <Thorondor> dooglus: like, waiting for harddisk to read something?
[05:05] <rod> could someone say my name? Im using a different irc client and i wanna lknow if i get notificated when someone says my name
[05:05] <rod> thanks : )
[05:05] <Thorondor> rod
[05:05] <mindlace> you're so hot, rod.
[05:06] <dooglus> Thorondor: I don't know what it means, just what it stands for :)  I guess it could well be to do with waiting for IO.
[05:06] <ubuntudvd32> Help install creative webcam pd1001 driver
[05:06] <Thorondor> dooglus: thanks, i'll try to find something on the web, what could cause a high %wa value...
[05:06] <rod> thank you guys
[05:07] <rod> especially you, mindlace
[05:07] <TCTCH> Any One Knows a site where are all feature Listed from dapper? mayBe With pics?
[05:07] <dooglus> Thorondor: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/05/msg00304.html says "wa typically has high values if the machine is waiting to IO to complete, doesn't have anything else to do".
[05:07] <Ng> TCTCH: that would be very premature at this point, dapper will be out in april, no doubt with lots of people putting up pics of it
[05:08] <idefix_> Ng: you still there? I'm installing this fed-cad-program but I have no configure script and the sh autogen.sh command yields sh: autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[05:08] <TCTCH> Ng: I mean just a "feature" page of dapper....or "what the new features are"....
[05:08] <TCTCH> Im shure something must exist
[05:09] <Ng> TCTCH: check the wiki
[05:09] <dooglus> TCTCH: it exists - just a moment
[05:09] <nalioth> idefix_: have you been to the website for install/build instructions?
[05:09] <mtlife> does ubuntu detect new hardware after setup?
[05:09] <idefix_> nalioth: no
[05:09] <nalioth> mtlife: you mean like when you plug in a mouse or an external hard drive?
[05:09] <idefix_> nalioth, but I'm reading the README-file right now
[05:09] <dooglus> TCTCH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3
[05:09] <nalioth> idefix_: cool idea.
[05:10] <TCTCH> dooglus: yeah...that's what I mean....thx dooglus
[05:10] <mtlife> nalioth: as in, i replaced a nic (realtek 8139b) for a new one (realtek 8139d) but now my system hangs when the cable is plugged in the new card
[05:10] <idefix_> and it says that if I don't have a configure script I'll need a relatively up-to-date version of the GNU Build System (autoconf, automake, & libtool) installed
[05:10] <mtlife> i'm wondering if the card is also broken or mayb its a module problem
[05:11] <WookieLuv0nMarz> wassup
[05:11] <idefix_> nalioth: the autogen.sh script will need to be run successfully in order to generate the configure script first
[05:11] <WookieLuv0nMarz> how can i register my nick?
[05:11] <nalioth> idefix_: do you have autoconf and all those installed?
[05:11] <nalioth> !register
[05:11] <ubotu> I guess register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[05:11] <WookieLuv0nMarz> !register
[05:12] <dooglus> TCTCH: see this, too: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-January/000048.html
[05:12] <idefix_> nalioth: sh autogen.sh
[05:12] <idefix_> sh: autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[05:12] <WookieLuv0nMarz> woops
[05:12] <dooglus> TCTCH: it has more news about the changes to the live cd and the install process
[05:12] <WookieLuv0nMarz> !register
[05:12] <ubotu> register is probably type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[05:12] <idefix_> nalioth, could it be that I'm in the wrong directory?
[05:12] <nalioth> idefix_: you need autoconf and automake1.7 at a minimum installed
[05:12] <nalioth> idefix_: that is also a possibility
[05:13] <WookieLuv0nMarz> ubuntu woes?
[05:13] <idefix_> is this stuff standardly installed?
[05:13] <WookieLuv0nMarz> what are you trying to install?
[05:13] <pje> crimsun *highlight*
[05:13] <nalioth> idefix_: no it is not. there are no developer tools by default in ubuntu
[05:13] <idefix_> brl-cad
[05:13] <WookieLuv0nMarz> like a cad program?
[05:13] <idefix_> yesss
[05:13] <WookieLuv0nMarz> use qcad or whatever
[05:13] <nalioth> idefix_: install 'build-essential autoconf automake1.7"
[05:14] <WookieLuv0nMarz> sudo aptitude install qcad
[05:14] <WookieLuv0nMarz> der
[05:14] <idefix_> so it is on the burnt ubuntu CD but not unpacked and/or installed yet..
[05:14] <mtlife> can someone please answer my question :)
[05:14] <WookieLuv0nMarz> open a terminal and fetch it from the network
[05:15] <nalioth> idefix_: build-essential is on the cd, but the auto things are online
[05:15] <WookieLuv0nMarz> what question
[05:15] <idefix_> don't you mean install "build-essential autoconf automake1.7" ?
[05:15] <nalioth> idefix_: sudo apt-get install
[05:15] <mtlife> WookieLuv0nMarz: does ubuntu detect if I replace one nic, for an other?
[05:15] <WookieLuv0nMarz> same thing
[05:15] <WookieLuv0nMarz> apt-gett aptitude synaptec all the samwe
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> i think so.
[05:16] <idefix_> nalioth: how do I know for sure that my PC won't crash tragically?
[05:16] <pje> can anyody help me to configure my skype plz :)
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> hotplug
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> try it
[05:16] <nalioth> idefix_: none of us can know the date our boxen will go up in flames
[05:16] <ITSa341> mtlife: It should as the two nics will have different mac addresses
[05:16] <SEJeff> !enter
[05:16] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> if you fail you will know at least
[05:16] <idefix_> I installed some program before, the apt-get install command has probably been executed already
[05:16] <TCTCH> dooglus: thx for the infos
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> well back up your astuff
[05:16] <pje> can anyody help me to configure my skype plz :)
[05:16] <benkong2> i have an install question. installing ubuntu on a laptop that has winxp and gentoo already partitions are hda1=winxp hda2=swap hda3=fat32part hda5=boot hda6=gentoo hda7=ubuntu hda8=home. Ubuntu is asking where to place grub and i already have grub installed. what can or should i choose?
[05:17] <WookieLuv0nMarz> and install ubuntu breezy or dapper
[05:17] <idefix_> nalioth?
[05:17] <mtlife> ITSa341: but what if the chipset is almost the same? because.. it now hangs when I'm trying to use the nic
[05:17] <WookieLuv0nMarz> grub goes on hda0
[05:17] <nalioth> idefix_: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[05:17] <benkong2> WookieLuv0nMarz; is that for me?
[05:17] <WookieLuv0nMarz> yup
[05:18] <ITSa341> mtlife  did you run <systems><administration><networking> and configure the new nic?
[05:18] <benkong2> WookieLuv0nMarz; it will overwrite my existing files correct?
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> hda1 or 0 whatever the first partition on the first drive is
[05:18] <KenThede> hi I wanted to know where to go to get ubuntu source code
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> the mbr i think yera
[05:18] <SEJeff> WookieLuv0nMarz, there is no such thing as hda0.
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> it should give you a list of os's to chose from
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> hda1 then
[05:18] <SEJeff> WookieLuv0nMarz, in grub format, it is (hd0,0)
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> ok kisten to jeff he has answers now
[05:18] <benkong2> it does i just did not want to overwrite the existing grub.conf
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> listen too
[05:19] <WookieLuv0nMarz> back it up
[05:19] <SEJeff> benkong2, back up /boot/grub/menu.lst from your gentoo install
[05:19] <mtlife> ITSa341: thats not really the problem, the nic is configured and my system wont hang as long it is not attached to a network cable.. but when i attach it, and try to acces internet.. it hangs (its the nic for internet)
[05:19] <benkong2> ok backing up......
[05:19] <SEJeff> benkong2, Actually, back up all of /boot
[05:19] <JonnyBlazeRS> can anyone tell me if its possible to install ubuntu thru the network on a laptop with no cdrom using boot floppies?
[05:19] <SEJeff> benkong2, then you will have to add the files back, and merge /boot/grub/menu.lst with the old one to make it work
[05:19] <KenThede> hello anyone listening to me I want to know where to go to get ubuntu source code
[05:19] <WookieLuv0nMarz> i would just swap nics and reinstall ubuntu if you had doubts.
[05:19] <ITSa341> mtlife  is it using dhcp or manual IPs?
[05:20] <mtlife> static
[05:20] <WookieLuv0nMarz> if your desktop has pcmcia support it should find the new pcmcia device every boot
[05:20] <SEJeff> KenThede, 'apt-get source gaim' will download the source for gaim
[05:20] <ITSa341> mtlife: and it hangs when you plug in the cable?
[05:20] <mtlife> ITSa341: yes
[05:21] <WookieLuv0nMarz> yea you have to configure the nic too. activate it and all
[05:21] <cello_rasp> how do i make a tar of my home directory?
[05:21] <WookieLuv0nMarz> dhcp and static and all that
[05:21] <mtlife> yes but an unconfigured nic shouldnt crash the system should it?
[05:21] <mtlife> and it is configured ;)
[05:21] <WookieLuv0nMarz> so is anyone here not having ubuntu problems?
[05:21] <WookieLuv0nMarz> (raise hand)
[05:21] <mtlife> hehe
[05:22] <WookieLuv0nMarz> so diable it then swap cards and re enable it
[05:22] <ITSa341> mtlife: You might try dhcp as your server may be holding that IP allocated for your old card. Every NIC has a unique mac address.
[05:22] <WookieLuv0nMarz> google it
[05:22] <intero> where can i search for ubuntu bugs? something like debian.bugs.org. i can't find the url...
[05:22] <mike_> Can anyone help me install realplayer and get it to work with firefox?
[05:22] <Ng> intero: launchpad.net
[05:22] <WookieLuv0nMarz> yes
[05:22] <mtlife> ITSa341: so just reconfigure it?
[05:22] <WookieLuv0nMarz> get realplayer and other codecs from the restricted formats ubuntu page
[05:23] <WookieLuv0nMarz> easy to follow directions there
[05:23] <intero> Ng: thanks
[05:23] <ITSa341> mtlife, reconfigure the new card and try it
[05:23] <ITSa341> nothing to lose
[05:23] <WookieLuv0nMarz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:24] <WookieLuv0nMarz> if you also install the codecs from the ubuntiguide.org page you should be able to play almost anything very well
[05:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell intero about malone
[05:24] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[05:24] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[05:24] <mike_> WookieLuv0nMarz, the apt-get is no good and dont work, I've downloaded this http://www.real.com/linux
[05:24] <nalioth> WookieLuv0nMarz: please don't advise that site
[05:24] <mike_> but i cant get it to work
[05:24] <WookieLuv0nMarz> no apt-get its a .deb download with install directions
[05:24] <intero> nalioth: thanks
[05:24] <WookieLuv0nMarz> realplayer 10 i think
[05:24] <JonnyBlazeRS> can anyone tell me if its possible to install ubuntu thru the network on a laptop with no cdrom using boot floppies?
[05:24] <mtlife> ITSa341: still hangs when i plug in the cable, even with dhcp
[05:24] <mike_> yes and it does not work
[05:24] <WookieLuv0nMarz> ok
[05:25] <WookieLuv0nMarz> my bad
[05:25] <mtlife> ITSa341: think the card is broken, thats the 2nd one today..
[05:25] <WookieLuv0nMarz> any other ubuntu chats?
[05:25] <mtlife> ITSa341: now gonna try a 3com card, if that one doesnt work either i will reinstall ubuntu :p
[05:25] <nalioth> WookieLuv0nMarz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:25] <ITSa341> mtlife:  good luck with it
[05:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mtlife about hardware
[05:25] <SEJeff> JonnyBlazeRS, You should be able to use the Debian netboot floppies to install from an ubuntu repository. I've never done that though
[05:27] <sweet_kate> please i need help with no-ip.com: i registered but when i try ***.no-ip.com i get my router config page(i have already set port forwarding to address <IP_ADDRESS> on port 80)! help!!
[05:27] <benkong2> brb rebooting thanks SEJeff ; and WookieLuvOnMarz
[05:28] <Keyseir> Which kernel version does breezy use?
[05:28] <SEJeff> Keyseir, 2.6.12 I believe
[05:28] <sweet_kate> i used this site http://www.canyouseeme.org/ to check if port 80 is open and it is!
[05:29] <SEJeff> Keyseir, dapper uses 2.6.15
[05:29] <mtlife> 2.6.12 :)
[05:29] <rseeber> is there graphical man pages?
[05:29] <rseeber> *are
[05:29] <p> has anyone managed to use gnome-bluetooth-manager to browse a mobile?
[05:30] <kjcole> Hi all. I want some help with deciding to report (or not report) a Dapper-esque bug.  I looked for a report on Malone, but didn't find it.  Am not certain if I introduced the problem myself (though I don't think so.)
[05:30] <dracflamloc> hey folks. can anyone help me out. my laptop when in the console, cuts off a bunch of lines at the bottom. its native res is 1280x768. anyone know how to fix this?
[05:30] <idefix_> nalioth: are you still in kubuntu-offtopic?
[05:30] <Keyseir> thx
[05:31] <idefix_> kkathman are you here?
[05:31] <Keyseir> Can anyone else confirm what kernel revision breezy uses or direct me to the appropriate place on the project site?
[05:32] <mustard5> sweet_kate, its a pretty specialised question..you might need to wait for the right person to come along that knows the answer
[05:32] <SEJeff> Keyseir, do you use breezy
[05:32] <Keyseir> Yep
[05:32] <SEJeff> mustard5, well ask it
[05:32] <scanwinder> im trying to compile vlc in ubuntu and im getting the following error: "ffmpeg.c:49:44: error: libpostproc/postprocess.h: No such file or directory" ....anyone know how to fix that?
[05:32] <SEJeff> Keyseir, uname -r
[05:32] <Keyseir> SEJeff Ah.
[05:33] <SEJeff> Keyseir, it will tell you 2.6.12 just like 2 people have already told you :)
[05:33] <nalioth> sweet_kate: if you are using ubutnu, having open ports is not a problem
[05:33] <mustard5> SEJeff, sweet_kate asked the question, not me :)
[05:33] <mtlife> ok.. the 3com card just works :p
[05:33] <kjcole> During bootup with 2.6.15-12-686, I see "udevd-event[2814] : run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit" and there it hangs...
[05:33] <SEJeff> mustard5, gotcha
[05:33] <mtlife> seems like my other cards are really broken, gonna test them in windows though :p
[05:33] <Keyseir> SEJeff, heh, thanks. Just wanted to be positive... rather important for some things. I appreciate the help.
[05:34] <SEJeff> sweet_kate, Ubuntu has a policy of 0 open ports in the default install. The reason ubuntu doesn' t have a firewall is because there are no open ports by default
[05:34] <sweet_kate> SEJeff: so i must open that port on linux, too?
[05:34] <SEJeff> sweet_kate, open up firefox and go to http://localhost:80.
[05:34] <SEJeff> sweet_kate, Well did you install apache
[05:35] <pje> crimsun *highlight*
[05:35] <sweet_kate> yes
[05:35] <bedi> how i execute automatix ?
[05:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bedi about automatix
[05:36] <abionnnn> anyone here experienced in upgrading the ATI firegl drivers?
[05:36] <rseeber> is there a gui for the man pages?
[05:36] <bedi> hum
[05:36] <bedi> ugh!
[05:36] <nicholaspaul> Oi. Anyone know of a Dapper channel?
[05:36] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: you are in it
[05:36] <C-O-L-T> which office suite for linux lets me to modify pdf files?
[05:36] <gimmulf_>   /join #ubuntu.se
[05:36] <gimmulf_> oops
[05:37] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul, if you don't know, you likely shouldn't be using dapper
[05:37] <SEJeff> rseeber, hit ALT F2 and type yelp
[05:37] <KenThede> hey check out www.computerken.4t.com
[05:37] <KenThede> hey check out www.computerken.4t.com
[05:37] <nicholaspaul> G thanks SEJeff
[05:37] <nicholaspaul> Thanks nalioth :)
[05:37] <Ng> C-O-L-T: no office suite on any platform lets you modify pdf files
[05:38] <Huh-Bubbles> Do I need to get in a private chat to ask for help, or am I allowed to ask in the channel?
[05:39] <C-O-L-T> Ng: for windows there is Adobe Acrobat Professional, I think that lets you to modify pdf
[05:39] <SEJeff> C-O-L-T, yes. Acrobat professional is proprietary and expensive.
[05:39] <Ng> C-O-L-T: it lets you make very simple modifications, but it is by no means an office suite. you should modify the original document and generate a new PDF
[05:40] <nalioth> Huh-Bubbles: this is the help chanel for ubuntu. ask away
[05:40] <ITSa341> Huh-Bubbles:  Just ask your question and be patient. There are more questions than people answering them.
[05:40] <nicholaspaul> Ng: C-O-L-T's right. Youre going to need a purchased app to modify pdf's. its worth it if you use the full extent of the pdf format.
[05:40] <Ng> nicholaspaul: I am fully aware of that, as I just explained to him ;)
[05:40] <Ng> I used to use acrobat professional at least weekly
[05:40] <mlehrer> is mythtv available in one of the standard sources?
[05:40] <nicholaspaul> excellent :) Ng. Just trying to help.
[05:41] <C-O-L-T> nicholaspaul: but I can not use Adobe Acrobat Professional on Ubuntu right?
[05:41] <mlehrer> i have universe & multiverse enabled, but apt-cache search can't find it
[05:41] <nicholaspaul> Ng. Pretty cool aint it?
[05:41] <Huh-Bubbles> I downloaded ubuntu, and I don't seem to have an image file.
[05:41] <Ng> nicholaspaul: no, I hate it ;)
[05:41] <nicholaspaul> no C-O-L-T. its only avail. for Win and OSX
[05:41] <nicholaspaul> Ng oh! I love it... but thats a difft topic.
[05:41] <rseeber> SEJeff: my F2 key doesn't work....that's the only one, is there another way?
[05:42] <SEJeff> rseeber, Open up a terminal and type yelp &
[05:42] <C-O-L-T> nicholaspaul: than what to do? Should I use windows :)
[05:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mlehrer about mythtv
[05:42] <nicholaspaul> C-O-L-T: pretty much.
[05:42] <rseeber> thanks
[05:42] <pje> can't anybody help my to make my lovely skype run?
[05:42] <harharhar> could someone helpme install skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb on my computer? i'm using ubuntu ver 5.10
[05:42] <ITSa341> will adobe acrobat professional run in Crossover Office?
[05:43] <nicholaspaul> ITSa341: no.
[05:43] <picasso> by default, does ubuntu have an outgoing smtp server?
[05:43] <ITSa341> bummer
[05:43] <rseeber> SEJeff: thanks
[05:43] <pje> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto @ harhar
[05:43] <SEJeff> rseeber, no prob
[05:43] <pje> but can't say that it works very good
[05:43] <picasso> echo test | mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>.. not getting there
[05:43] <nicholaspaul> ITSa341: as we were saying, Acrobat is a sep. app. that only runs on win and osx.  :(
[05:43] <picasso> and not seeing any traffic w/ ethereal
[05:44] <harharhar> tnx pje
[05:44] <ITSa341> nicholaspaul  so is MS office but I run it under Ubuntu with crossover office
[05:44] <ITSa341> MS Office 2003
[05:44] <SEJeff> picasso, sudo apt-get install postfix
[05:44] <nicholaspaul> ITSa341:  do you have a purch. copy of Acrobat?
[05:44] <picasso> sejeff: postfix seems installed. perhaps it's just not configured to ruN?
[05:44] <ITSa341> No, that is why I don't know if Adobe will load under crossover
[05:44] <picasso> this is a pretty new 5.10 install, definitely havent changed any mail settings
[05:45] <C-O-L-T> nicholaspaul: where can I get crossover office?
[05:45] <picasso> postfix seems to be running, also
[05:45] <ITSa341> nicholaspaul: I can tell you that AOL and MS Office work flawlessly for me under Crossover Office
[05:45] <milan_> How do I get java working in Opera?
[05:45] <SEJeff> picasso, I'm not sure if postfix is installed by default on breezy and I know it's not on dapper. Does dpkg -L postfix give you an error?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> !dapper
[05:45] <ubotu> well, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[05:45] <C-O-L-T> nicholaspaul: I am using Thinkfree Office which looks like ms office, it is 100% compatible with it, and really feels like ms office
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> hmm..
[05:46] <milan_> I created symobolic links to the relevant *.so java files, but still no luck
[05:46] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  Crossover Office should tell on their page which apps will run and some not listed still work
[05:46] <picasso> sejeff: postfix is running, just doesnt seem to be sending messages
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> heh - wanting to test out dapper on my new box. but cant find the url to download the cd.
[05:46] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[05:46] <dracflamloc> hey folks. can anyone help me out. my laptop when in the console, cuts off a bunch of lines at the bottom. its native res is 1280x768. anyone know how to fix this?
[05:47] <SEJeff> picasso, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix
[05:47] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T http://www.codeweavers.com/
[05:47] <picasso> ty
[05:47] <pje> no one here uses skype?
[05:47] <martii> pje: skype sux
[05:47] <martii> pje: hard to configure
[05:47] <nicholaspaul> ouch
[05:47] <SEJeff> Dr_Willis, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/dapper/flight-3/
[05:47] <pje> ^^
[05:47] <martii> pje: as it does not use Alsa
[05:48] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here using Dapper? I'm having wifi troubles. Anyone got Airport working with Flight 3?
[05:48] <martii> pje: they promise ALSA support this year
[05:48] <pje> i works fine for my 1st call
[05:48] <martii> pje: but when ?
[05:48] <pje> but then it doesn't work anymore...
[05:48] <martii> pje: that's bug
[05:48] <Xappe> skype with ALSA is in closed beta testing I think
[05:48] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=&company=Adobe&medal=&date_start%5B1%5D=1&date_start%5B2%5D=1&date_start%5B0%5D=2000&date_start%5B3%5D=0&date_start%5B4%5D=00&date_end%5B1%5D=1&date_end%5B2%5D=17&date_end%5B0%5D=2006&date_end%5B3%5D=10&date_end%5B4%5D=48&search=app
[05:49] <pje> well tell me how to fix this bug :)
[05:49] <EnsignRedshirt> I want to compile a program using the Lapack library, but when I try to install lapack3-dev, synaptic wants to install cpp-3.4 (among other things).  Is there any reason I shouldn't do this?  It won't mess up my current cpp, will it?  (I'm running breezy.)
[05:49] <SEJeff> ITSa341, use www.tinyurl.com for urls that long please
[05:49] <pje> unfixable?
[05:49] <pje> ^^
[05:49] <ITSa341> SEJeff  sorry
[05:49] <martii> pje: http://juljas.net/linux/skype/
[05:49] <martii> pje: read this should help
[05:49] <SEJeff> ITSa341, no prob
[05:49] <Ng> EnsignRedshirt: it's perfectly ok to have multiple versions installed
[05:49] <pje> gr8
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> thanks SEJeff  - time to do some trouble shooting :P
[05:49] <pje> thx
[05:49] <SEJeff> Dr_Willis, have fun
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> SEJeff,  :P gotta love spare machines to test things out on.
[05:50] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here using Dapper?
[05:50] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: thanks for the info, I will download it
[05:50] <NuB> NickServ password
[05:50] <Xappe> pje: skype_dsp_hijacker is a very nice workaround
[05:50] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  I use Crossover Office for many apps NOT listed at their site
[05:51] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: can I run programs which are installed on my windows partition
[05:51] <C-O-L-T> ?
[05:51] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T I am running AOL right now. C-O-L-T  I don't know. I have no windows partition
[05:51] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: ok I see, you just run LINUX?
[05:52] <ITSa341> Ubuntu only on this machine
[05:52] <harharhar> could someone helpme install scribus on my computer? i'm using ubuntu ver 5.10
[05:52] <dracflamloc> can anyone PLEASE help me? gnome freezes when it starts up i think because its trying to play the startup sound on my modem
[05:52] <SEJeff> harharhar, sudo apt-get install scribus
[05:52] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T I know DreamWeaver, and MS Office both run with Crossover Office
[05:53] <harharhar> tnx!
[05:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Ng: OK, thanks.  I went ahead and installed everything.  So far, so good.
[05:53] <Ng> :)
[05:53] <SEJeff> harharhar, Something like 19,000+ packages are in the Ubuntu repositories
[05:53] <picasso> ugh
[05:53] <bur[n] er> ITSa341: how bout outlook with an exchange account?
[05:53] <picasso> sejeff: i just want to send mail. this is a laptop, not a server, i'm dealing with
[05:54] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: are you using it legally?
[05:54] <ITSa341> bur[n] er: don't use Outlook so I have no idea
[05:54] <ITSa341> Yes
[05:54] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: strange question I know
[05:54] <bur[n] er> ITSa341: just curious... it's my one app for windows still
[05:54] <yggdrasil_> how do i ls and show hidden files ?
[05:54] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: I am just asking if I can find some c....cks for it
[05:54] <harharhar> SEJeff, m a newbie. sori.
[05:54] <EnsignRedshirt> yggdrasil: ls -a
[05:55] <yggdrasil_> cool
[05:55] <SEJeff> harharhar, thats ok. Go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[05:55] <SEJeff> harharhar, search for scribus
[05:55] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  I use no pirated software. I have coa's for WinXP and Office XP and 2003 but got tired of MS and virus and spyware etc etc
[05:55] <SEJeff> harharhar, Synaptic is a pretty graphical wrapper around apt-get
[05:55] <yorouichi> anyone got via-unchrome working on 64bit?
[05:56] <lockhead> can i set background color in emacs, from white to black?
[05:56] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: I see :)
[05:56] <harharhar> SEJeff, it cant find scribus
[05:56] <tuxie> anyone managed to make apt-build work on ppc? I only get "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" on all configure-scripts :(
[05:56] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  I am a MS OEM so I can buy their products cheap, just tired of the hassles and want to move UP
[05:57] <tuxie> apt-src works however
[05:57] <EnsignRedshirt> lockhead: You can practically run the universe from emacs, so I'm sure changing the color should be possible. :)
[05:57] <harharhar> SEJeff, tried apt-get but terminal replied: cant find package
[05:57] <lockhead> without learning lisp or something like that
[05:57] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: I am a home user, you know how much it costs that stupid ms office? I use open office which is far far better as far as I am concerned
[05:58] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  I use Open Office in our offices. We do have MS Office installed at out property management offices for Access since our reservation database is nased on it.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> I find Abiword does all i need. :P which is minimal i admit...
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:59] <EnsignRedshirt> lockhead: xemacs has command line options -fg and -bg for foreground and background colors.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> kids dont need OOo for a book report.  or small paper.
[05:59] <SEJeff> harharhar, Open up synaptic and to to Settings --> Repositories --> Add. Check community maintained and non-free or restricted
[05:59] <lockhead> thanks EnsignRedshirt