[06:46] <Jucato> Xaero_Vincent: doesn't the Power manager appear in your system tray?
[06:47] <Xaero_Vincent> nope.. but Im running from the live-cd.. could that make a difference?
[06:47] <Jucato> Xaero_Vincent: hold on...
[06:47] <waspy> xsacha:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29505/
[06:47] <xsacha> grr how do i do a plus sign for ubotu?
[06:47] <felixjet> anyone can tell me how to enable xmms remote control for superkaramba?
[06:47] <tearran> !Multiverse
[06:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:48] <waspy> !botsnack
[06:48] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:48] <xsacha> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_200 ?
[06:49] <xsacha> waspy: a radeon 8500 right?
[06:49] <waspy> yep
[06:49] <macconline> Jucato: sun java fine, but azureus not
[06:49] <waspy> nothing is ever normal with me...
[06:49] <Jucato> macconline: what do you mean by "not"?
[06:50] <Xaero_Vincent> did you find anything Jucato?
[06:50] <Jucato> Xaero_Vincent: no.. :(
[06:50] <waspy> ktorent is nice
[06:50] <macconline> jucato azureus not install, pack crash
[06:50] <Jucato> but I know it's there, if kde-guidance-powermanager is installed
[06:50] <Jucato> macconline: sudo apt-get install azureus
[06:51] <waspy> azureus dosn't work as well in linux compared to windows...
[06:51] <moj0rising> does anyone know if I can set up SATA raid with kubuntu without a raid card -- just using the built in controller?
[06:51] <xsacha> hmm you have fglrx, using mesa libs and trying to run aiglx waspy? :S
[06:51] <macconline> jucato:   azureus: Depend: libswt3.1-gtk-java but not will install
[06:51] <waspy> xsacha:  !?!?!
[06:51] <xsacha> using fglrx driver
[06:52] <waspy> xsacha:  oh god...
[06:52] <xsacha> what?
[06:52] <Jucato> macconline: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[06:52] <macconline> jucato: yes
[06:52] <waspy> xsacha:  there is never a normal moment with me, that's what i mean...
[06:52] <xsacha> waspy :fglrx cant do aiglx.. and you wont get direct rendering using mesa
[06:53] <Xaero_Vincent> aiglx doesnt work with ATI cards right now IIRC
[06:53] <xsacha> you want to use fglrx or open source driver?
[06:53] <waspy> xsacha:  i know but i did not write it
[06:53] <xsacha> aiglx works with ati cards, but only with open source driver :)
[06:53] <Xaero_Vincent> thats probably coming in the next major Fglrx driver
[06:53] <xsacha> waspy: for kubuntu, default xorg.conf uses "ati" driver, not sure how you got fglrx?
[06:53] <xsacha> installed it?
[06:53] <waspy> i just installed fglrx
[06:53] <xsacha> o and aticonfig --initial ?
[06:54] <waspy> yep
[06:54] <Jucato> macconline: hm.. that's strange. it installs here correctly
[06:54] <waspy> and the Xv thing
[06:54] <xsacha> Xv thing?
[06:54] <xsacha> oh extension.. k
[06:54] <waspy> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[06:54] <MrBrizz> you can intall ATI ives in linux in one han an take a ump in the other and see which one fills up faster
[06:54] <MrBrizz> holy missing character.... :(
[06:54] <waspy> LOL
[06:54] <macconline> jucato: yes, i never installed azureus for apt
[06:55] <macconline> jucato: i install for automatix1, but i formated and don't find automatix.deb
[06:55] <xsacha> waspy disable AIGLX in ServerLayout in xorg.conf
[06:56] <MrBrizz> !automatix
[06:56] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[06:56] <macconline> jucato: way apt only automatix2 y don't have azureus =S
[06:56] <Jucato> macconline: automatix sometimes has a tendency to break things, but if you really want to use it, you might have to go to #automatix for help
[06:56] <waspy> xsacha:  no aiglx in server layout
[06:56] <macconline> ok, in this server?
[06:56] <xsacha> yeah put in: Option "AIGLX" "Disable"
[06:57] <xsacha> oh hmmm in Section "ServerFlags"
[06:57] <Jucato> macconline: yes
[06:57] <waspy> now you tell me...
[06:57] <xsacha> will have to create it
[06:58] <xsacha> :P just cut and paste it
[06:58] <Xaero_Vincent> well it looks as if kde-quidance-powermanager only works with laptops. as the error message tells me..
[06:58] <macconline> jucato: thanks per you time...... sorry.
[06:58] <james_xxx> Sysinfo for 'slax': Linux 2.6.16 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20GHz at 2200 MHz (4407 bogomips), HD: 0/0GB, RAM: 492/501MB, 118 proc's, 33.9min up
[06:59] <xsacha> Sysinfo for 'xena': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: AMDAthlon643000+ at 2002 MHz (4009 bogomips), , RAM: 490/497MB, 101 proc's, 1.11d up
[06:59] <rawrness> woot dvd iso for edgy
[06:59] <rawrness> bitorent.........
[07:00] <xsacha> what's a good movie?
[07:00] <rawrness> oh well it will just take around 10 days
[07:00] <rawrness> xsacha:  Boondock Saints
[07:01] <xsacha> mm 4gb dvd
[07:01] <Emess> whoa no kaffeine, i click it and hte icon bounces and then jsut disappears :S
[07:01] <waspy> xsacha:  here is my curent config:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29507/
[07:01] <xsacha> try it from konsole emess, what's error?
[07:01] <rawrness> XD theres a live cd for xbox
[07:02] <waspy> xsacha:  just make the change and mark it and i'll write it
[07:02] <intelikey> Emess yea i always hated that bouncing icon thingy....
[07:02] <Emess> no error, it just thinks for a sec and then a new line appears waiting a command
[07:02] <intelikey> in konsole run it and see what error mess
[07:03] <Emess> no error message, a new line jsut comes up as if id pressed enter andnothing else
[07:03] <xsacha> waspy: one you pasted doesnt have the aiglx change?
[07:03] <rawrness> woot it torrent picked up to 3kb a sec :P
[07:04] <rawrness> oh 6 now
[07:04] <intelikey> Emess i don't have it so i don't even know if --verbose  or -v   will work.
[07:04] <intelikey> possably -d  for debugging output
[07:05] <waspy> xsacha:  no i did nt know where to put it
[07:05] <xsacha> --verbose does work on kaffeine intelikey :D
[07:05] <noiesmo> intelikey, the fsck on the floppy didnt do much thanks anyway
[07:05] <rawrness> support kubuntu download the dvd image from bittorent http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/dvd/
[07:05] <Emess> no idea, vlc works tho :S
[07:05] <intelikey> noiesmo ok did you recover that data yet ?
[07:05] <xsacha> waspy: Section "ServerFlags"  <new line> Option "AIGLX" "off" <new line> EndSection         put this anywhere as long as it is not inside another section
[07:06] <xsacha> Emess: kaffeine --verbose
[07:06] <noiesmo> intelikey, I got some of the photos off the disc but there were a couple that wouldnt copy there pcx files
[07:07] <Xaero_Vincent> i'll just get KPowersave.. which is supposibly in Universe
[07:07] <waspy> and for some reason the dri module wont uncomment!!!
[07:08] <tearran> !info java firefox
[07:08] <xsacha> press Del on the hash?
[07:08] <Emess> xsacha: nothing happened
[07:09] <intelikey> noiesmo if it's phisical damage on the disk there really isn't much that can be done.  part of the data is no longer there.    but if you got "most"   then doing a  dd if=/dev/fd0 of=file.img ; mount -o loop file.img ./some/place      probably wont help much either.
[07:09] <xsacha> Emess: does kaffeine -v show you the version?
[07:09] <tearran> !java firefox
[07:10] <Xaero_Vincent> Kubuntu 6.10 looks much nicer than when I tried 5.10 (last).. the control center is very orginized.. although it lacks some tools.. additional GUI utilities can be found in the repositories.
[07:10] <Xaero_Vincent> maybe I'll switch from SUSE in the next few days.. Live CD is very quick too :)
[07:10] <Emess> xsacha:
[07:11] <Emess> Qt: 3.3.6
[07:11] <Emess> KDE: 3.5.5
[07:11] <Emess> Kaffeine Player: 0.8.2
[07:12] <intelikey> hmmm 0.8  kaffeine is still bata ?
[07:12] <noiesmo> intelikey, cheers i'll try the dd and mount it, I used dd to make some pxe images the other day didnt think of that thanks
[07:12] <xsacha> hmm, no idea
[07:12] <xsacha> it should atleast give one debug message when you use --verbose
[07:12] <waspy> xsacha:  still no joy
[07:13] <xsacha> waspy: try moving xorg.conf to a temporary file, then creating a new one
[07:13] <intelikey> noiesmo it will stop at an io error so if it's phisical damage it may not gain anything.
[07:14] <laervian> hi everybody
[07:14] <mw46> ;-)
[07:14] <xsacha> waspy: after you move the xorg.conf file.. aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv --initial
[07:14] <noiesmo> intelikey, ok  the images that didnt copy over did have i/o errors as it was coping them so well see, if it works it works the teacher's not overly worried
[07:14] <laervian> quick help: it seems that my CPU works only at a THIRD OF ITS POWER!!!
[07:14] <waspy> xsacha:  what is the command to make a new xorg file?
[07:14] <xsacha> waspy: like i said above :)
[07:14] <Emess> nope, nothing for verbose
[07:15] <intelikey> noiesmo tre bon chance
[07:15] <laervian> does anyone know how to check why it is so and solve the problem=
[07:16] <mw46> laervian: do you have a bit more info?
[07:16] <laervian> my laptop almost crashes opening a pdf and a powerpoint together...it should not :(
[07:16] <Emess> mmm frostwire doesnt load either
[07:16] <intelikey> waspy sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:16] <laervian> mw46: what kind could you use?
[07:16] <mw46> what hardware? what OS? versions? symptoms?
[07:17] <xsacha> and how much % cpu usage? and is using the most?
[07:17] <seishinbyou> Well, the new Power Manager with 6.10 keeps my CPU at 1/3 of the max speed unless something processor intensive makes use of it
[07:17] <intelikey> laervian cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:17] <seishinbyou> Is this similar to what is happening with you?
[07:17] <intelikey> but how to fix.....   ?
[07:17] <laervian> mw46: hardware, intel centrino 1.8 ghz on an IBM thinkpad R50e. OS: kubuntu 6.10
[07:17] <waspy> oh nice, the reconfigure screen is all messed up
[07:17] <laervian> seishibyou: yes
[07:18] <xsacha> my comp scales processor for me, dont need software for it :)
[07:18] <laervian> I have already checked cat proc etc., that is how I know it is underworking
[07:18] <laervian> mine stops dead with a pdf and a powerpoint
[07:18] <laervian> it does NOT speed up
[07:18] <xsacha> ? did you look at top laervian?
[07:19] <seishinbyou> Odd... however, just a sec...
[07:19] <waspy> i'm giving up for the night... night all!
[07:19] <mw46> night.
[07:19] <laervian> xsacha: I do not know how to check the % - just used cat proc/cpuinfo
[07:19] <laervian> night waspy
[07:19] <seishinbyou> sudo powernowd -help
[07:19] <xsacha> and what did cpuinfo tell you that's important? the cpu mhz?
[07:19] <mw46> laervian: try the top command in a terminal/konsole window.
[07:20] <seishinbyou> Use the parameters it lists to control the speed of your CPU
[07:20] <intelikey> seishinbyou sudo  and -help ???
[07:20] <cihad> hi
[07:20] <xsacha> sudo powernowd -u 100

[07:21] <cihad> how to ?
[07:21] <laervian> http://www.unita.it/hp.asp
[07:21] <laervian> nope
[07:21] <seishinbyou> sorry about that, I just wanted to run it and it warned me about not being the uberuser
[07:21] <cihad> change xsever default locale
[07:21] <laervian> powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens
[07:21] <laervian> powernowd: Found 1 scalable unit:  -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit
[07:21] <laervian> powernowd:   cpu0: 600Mhz - 1800Mhz (7 steps)
[07:21] <shinobi2> anyone got wireless working on edgy?
[07:21] <laervian> yeah
[07:22] <xsacha> laervian: what's max clock on processor? 1.8ghz?
[07:22] <laervian> (to shinobi)
[07:22] <laervian> xsamcha: yes
[07:22] <shinobi2> laervian: how? i have wifi 801 error
[07:22] <laervian> xsacha: problem is, it does NOT go upper than 600 Mhz it seems. It almost crashes but does not speed now
[07:23] <intelikey> that minumum is 6x my cpu
[07:23] <seishinbyou> Hmm, would "sudo powernowd -u 100 -l 100" work, or is that just silly?
[07:23] <laervian> shinobi: I just used the normal package...I did not have to tweak. I use wifi-radar and kwavecontrol - do not think they can be useful however if you have a driver problem
[07:23] <laervian> seishinbyou: no idea
[07:23] <duane> anyone know how to install flash in opera and konqueror?
[07:23] <duane> i downloaded the new flash
[07:23] <xsacha> it would work but.. lol it'd always run at full
[07:23] <duane> but i dont know what to do with it
[07:24] <laervian> follow the readme...?
[07:24] <seishinbyou> Maybe that is what he wants, though?
[07:24] <shinobi2> laervian: you installed these packages after the full ubuntu installed? did you get the 801 error before you fix it?
[07:24] <duane> laervian: the readme doesnt say how to install it really
[07:24] <laervian> shinobi: never got any error
[07:24] <laervian> duane: let me check mine
[07:25] <shinobi2> laervian: which wcard you have? i have atheos
[07:25] <laervian> shinobi: I have a thinkpad ibm...not sure on the card
[07:25] <laervian> shinobi: surely not an atheos though
[07:26] <ccherrett> any idea how to add a usb mouse in kubuntu?
[07:26] <intelikey> i wouldn't buy atheos just on general principal
[07:26] <mw46> why?
[07:26] <momal> just plug in in ccherrett should work with problem
[07:26] <shinobi2> laervian: 6.06 works out of the box and don't know why it screwed up on 6.10
[07:26] <xsacha> i am using a usb mouse.. worked out of box
[07:26] <ccherrett> momal: it did not
[07:26] <ccherrett> rats
[07:26] <laervian> shinobi2: I do not know sorry :(
[07:27] <momal> strange... try another usb port?
[07:27] <laervian> seishinbyou: it does not recognize the command
[07:28] <seishinbyou> Here is a test for you that worked for me on my laptop.  Open the Desktop (System Settings, and select an OpenGL screensaver (anything processor intensive)
[07:28] <seishinbyou> Like...oh, what is up now
[07:28] <seishinbyou> Hufo's Tunnel
[07:28] <laervian> ?
[07:28] <seishinbyou> Then, hover the mouse over the Power Manager
[07:28] <seishinbyou> Is it showing it running at 100%
[07:28] <laervian> wait a sec
[07:29] <seishinbyou> Mine runs at 600MHz for most tasks and shoots up when needed for graphical orgasmic pleasure
[07:29] <laervian> well if it is a test for seeing if the cpu goes up to 100% (seemingly) with what it should not
[07:30] <laervian> I have the little applet system control
[07:30] <xsacha> how does a screensaver hit 100% cpu? wouldnt that be bad :S
[07:30] <shinobi2> laervian: that's ok
[07:30] <laervian> and when I open a pdf it leaps to 100%
[07:30] <seishinbyou> Screensaver = toys.  People like frilly, gaudy toys
[07:30] <laervian> same with thunderbird
[07:30] <Jucato> !flash 9 | duane
[07:30] <ubotu> duane: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[07:30] <intelikey> xsacha it is bad.
[07:31] <laervian> that is why I saw something was definitely wrong :(
[07:31] <xsacha> screensaver is neither saving the screen or the cpu?
[07:31] <Jucato> !flash 9 > duane
[07:31] <seishinbyou> It isn't saving anything really, and some of them even burn in the screen (the static image ones...though that was more of a problem with Windows and the custom screensavers of a still image)
[07:32] <intelikey> true screen saver == blank
[07:32] <xsacha> burn in the screen? plasma?
[07:32] <seishinbyou> I'm referring to old CRT monitors
[07:32] <laervian> seishinbyou: any other suggestion
[07:32] <laervian> ?
[07:32] <mw46> that was a long time ago on CRT's;-)
[07:32] <xsacha> oh ok
[07:32] <seishinbyou> Well, if powernowd isn't doing anything, I'm not sure what to suggest; it scales fine on this CPU...maybe do a google search?
[07:33] <seishinbyou> CRTs are still in use in some places, of course
[07:33] <xsacha> or dont use powernowd :) stop scaling? :)
[07:33] <laervian> xsacha: how could I do that?
[07:33] <xsacha> i asumme you'd just remove it from startup
[07:33] <laervian> xsacha: how?
[07:34] <intelikey> seishinbyou lots of them
[07:34] <xsacha> system settings->advanced->service manager
[07:34] <xsacha> is it in there?
[07:34] <xsacha> o wait, it'd be before then.. hmm
[07:35] <intelikey> update-rc.d
[07:35] <xsacha> system settings->advanced->system services ?
[07:35] <cpk2> the "player" thing that myspace uses seems to have broken for me =\
[07:35] <mw46> good night;-)
[07:36] <laervian> ok now
[07:36] <laervian> ?
[07:36] <xsacha> you see powernowd in the list? multiuser mode(2)
[07:36] <laervian> no
[07:36] <xsacha> well, it should be.. that's where it is for me :)
[07:37] <intelikey> maybe why it's not working......
[07:37] <laervian> wait yes wrong menu
[07:37] <xsacha> it'll appear at all run levels
[07:37] <laervian> ok, it is bound to be activated at the startup but it is not active
[07:37] <xsacha> ok when you get to system services, get into administrator mode and then untick Start during boot
[07:37] <xsacha> it's "not running" ?
[07:38] <intelikey> point.
[07:38] <laervian> xsacha: yes
[07:38] <xsacha> did you kill it before?
[07:38] <laervian> no
[07:38] <xsacha> mm try running it and see if pdfs work now
[07:39] <laervian> sudo powernowd?
[07:39] <xsacha> yeah
[07:39] <xsacha> i think start
[07:39] <xsacha> sudo powernowd start ?
[07:39] <intelikey> no  sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd start
[07:40] <laervian> ok
[07:40] <intelikey> or restart
[07:40] <xsacha> is it running now?
[07:40] <laervian> no *_*
[07:41] <intelikey> if it crashed 's/start/restart/' may be needed.
[07:41] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd restart
[07:42] <laervian> ok I am doing it but...
[07:42] <intelikey> incase that was too cryptically...........
[07:42] <laervian> in the sys setting window it still tells me it is NOT active
[07:42] <laervian> whatever I try
[07:43] <laervian> or the window does not detect it or there is something shutting it down
[07:43] <intelikey> could be the window not updating....  but not likely
[07:43] <laervian> yeah my fear
[07:43] <laervian> any ideas?
[07:43] <laervian> it seems it not being active is my problem *_*
[07:43] <xsacha> where do you see this not active thing? :S
[07:44] <xsacha> should be in System Services right?
[07:44] <xsacha> when you click on powernowd it has Start, Stop and Restart button there
[07:44] <laervian> yeah I have tried it also from there
[07:45] <xsacha> does it show running and then go not running again?
[07:45] <laervian> yes
[07:45] <xsacha> mm powernowd crashing..
[07:46] <intelikey> cat /var/log/powernowd         i think it has it's own log... might check
[07:46] <xsacha> well if you want, can disable it at boot..  it might show Start during boot unticked -- it is ticked on a different runlevel
[07:46] <felixjet> where is the fonts directory?
[07:46] <xsacha> where did you specify it in xorg.conf felixjet?
[07:46] <intelikey> felixjet which one ?
[07:46] <felixjet> dunno, where the fonts are allocated :s
[07:47] <xsacha> check where X looks for them by checking xorg.conf
[07:47] <felixjet> k
[07:47] <laervian> nope, no log
[07:47] <intelikey> /usr/share/*
[07:47] <xsacha> it'll be in Files section
[07:47] <simon__> hm edgy doesnt like nvidia-glx?
[07:47] <intelikey> laervian check the sys log
[07:48] <xsacha> it's probably /usr/share/fonts/X11
[07:48] <intelikey> laervian also   'dmesg '   might reveal something about it.
[07:48] <laervian> intelikey: just sudo dmesg in the konsole?
[07:49] <xsacha> well you'll want to grep for important stuff, it's huge dmesg
[07:49] <intelikey> no sudo  but yes type  dmesg
[07:49] <laervian> ok done - and the syslog confirmed it stopped
[07:49] <intelikey> laervian what reason ?
[07:49] <laervian> no reason
[07:49] <xsacha> [   42.689571]  powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects
[07:50] <intelikey> laervian is that a prepackaged kernel ?
[07:51] <laervian> intelikey: what do you mean?
[07:51] <intelikey> !bug
[07:51] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:51] <intelikey> and jucato thinks of me....
[07:51] <Jucato> O_O
[07:52] <intelikey> laervian you should think about first looking for that problem and if not found report it.   ^
[07:53] <intelikey> :)
[07:53] <xsacha> so many damn bugs on linux :P
[07:54] <laervian> xsacha: this is a serious one, my machine runs at a one third of its power
[07:54] <Jucato> !flash 9 > duane
[07:54] <laervian> *_*
[07:54] <laervian> I just wonder how it can sustain all of kubuntu still
[07:54] <laervian> it is a miracle it is not crashing every second
[07:56] <laervian> any command to constrain the cpu to go at full potency NOW?
[07:56] <laervian> just to check it is indeed this the problem
[07:56] <bejoy> Hello
[07:57] <bejoy> What is a diference between kubutnu CD and DVD edition?
[07:57] <intelikey> laervian yes you can disable powernowd so it is not started at boot and reboot....
[07:58] <intelikey> bejoy several thousand megs of data
[07:58] <Jucato> duane: which part doesn't work?
[07:58] <bejoy> inc|freaky, Does it contain extra software?
[07:58] <thyko> whats that command for installing gcc?
[07:58] <thyko> apt-get install development-base?
[07:59] <intelikey> thyko sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:59] <cps1966> apt-get install build-essential
[07:59] <duane> jucato: when i add the repos to sources.list then do a apt-get update i get an error:
[07:59] <duane> W: GPG error: http://seveas.imbrandon.com edgy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[07:59] <duane> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:59] <Jucato> duane: you didn't follow the instructions. there are instructions there to download and add a GPG key
[08:00] <intelikey> bejoy assuming you meant that for me.   yes but nothing that's not in the repos.
[08:00] <intelikey> !repos | bejoy
[08:00] <ubotu> bejoy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:01] <duane> Jucato: i dont see the instructions on adding any keys
[08:01] <intelikey> duane also W; != E;     warning not equal error
[08:01] <duane> ohhhhhhh
[08:01] <duane> nevermind
[08:01] <duane> it's in another link
[08:03] <duane> Jucato i do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree i get the following msgs
[08:03] <duane> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[08:03] <duane> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[08:03] <duane> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:03] <duane>   flashplugin-nonfree: Depends: gsfonts-x11 but it is not going to be installed
[08:03] <duane> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:04] <thyko> intelikey, cps1966: thanks yall
[08:04] <Jucato> duane: did you updated first right?
[08:04] <duane> yes
[08:04] <intelikey> np
[08:06] <Jucato> duane: hm.. try removing the older flashplugin-nonfree, then install it again
[08:06] <Jucato> duane: er duane
[08:06] <intelikey> heh and try the -f
[08:06] <duane> how do I remove it? im not too familiar with apt
[08:06] <Jucato> duane: are you on edgy or dapper?
[08:06] <duane> edgy
[08:07] <Jucato> duane: did you change the dapper-seveas to edgy-seveas?
[08:07] <duane> yep
[08:07] <Jucato> duane: hm... that's strange. anyway "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:07] <Jucato> duane: then after that, try to install flashplugin-nonfree again
[08:08] <duane> ok i think it's installing now
[08:08] <duane> yeah it installed. is there anyhting i still need to do?
[08:08] <intelikey> apt-get remove/install/check/clean/autoclean/update/dist-upgrade      man apt-get
[08:08] <intelikey> man man
[08:09] <intelikey> man intro
[08:09] <intelikey> man woman
[08:09] <Jucato> duane: "Scan for new plugins" in Konqueror
[08:09] <intelikey> E; no manual page found for woman
[08:09] <Jucato> lol
[08:09] <intelikey> :)
[08:09] <draik> JUCATO
[08:10] <Jucato> yoh draik!!
[08:10] <draik> Long day at work, long story short... I FINALLY have a supervisor I can admire. He's got intelligence!
[08:10] <duane> yep still wont work for konq
[08:10] <duane> nspluginviewer crashed with signal 11
[08:10] <duane> that's what happens
[08:11] <duane> pretty weird
[08:11] <Jucato> hm...
[08:11] <duane> guess i'll just uninstall and roll with flash 7 for now
[08:11] <Jucato> draik: wow you have work now :)
[08:11] <draik> yup
[08:11] <Jucato> duane: probably.. too bad. worked for me though
[08:11] <draik> was going to be 7 months this friday
[08:11] <thyko> configure error: cant find X includes :(
[08:11] <duane> yeah pretty weird
[08:11] <thyko> which package has those?
[08:11] <Jucato> thyko: xorg-dev
[08:13] <intelikey> hmmm why is mozilla-mail running  "fuser /dev/dsp" ???
[08:14] <draik> What's the quickest way to obtain the 6.10 DVD?
[08:14] <draik> torrent taking too long
[08:14] <Jucato> torrent :P
[08:14] <cpk2> ftp?
[08:14] <draik> torrent taking too long
[08:15] <draik> how long would it take for ftp?
[08:15] <seishinbyou> depends, how fast is your connection?
[08:15] <draik> Cable
[08:15] <Jucato> depends on the traffic, too
[08:16] <seishinbyou> Depends on quite a few factors, actually; you probably won't know until you start downloading
[08:16] <Jucato> :P
[08:16] <seishinbyou> and then just divide the size by your rate
[08:16] <Jucato> depends on seishinbyou sanity too
[08:16] <fildo> meep meep
[08:16] <seishinbyou> Yeah, but I'm just a torrent guy anyways
[08:16] <draik> seishinbyou: Did you ever come to the conclusion about the 12 year old applicant?
[08:17] <seishinbyou> draik> My boss told me to give up on him as we had a rush of applicants anyways
[08:17] <seishinbyou> Thank goodness for Skype.  Saves on those long distance phone calls
[08:17] <seishinbyou> the cost, that is
[08:17] <fildo> lol
[08:18] <laervian> seishinbyou: can you make it work?
[08:18] <laervian> my audio output is cr***y at the very least
[08:18] <Jucato> on Windows probably?
[08:18] <fildo> Jucato: trader
[08:18] <Jucato> fildo: nah. doing this for studying.
[08:18] <fildo> fc good
[08:18] <laervian> on windows it is fine, in linux terrible
[08:18] <fildo> i just moved off it
[08:18] <fildo> to here .. ha
[08:19] <laervian> also I cannot make skype.exe function...output device not detected
[08:19] <seishinbyou> I actually was using a winbox for the Skype interview.  I got it working under Linux, but the audio was choppy and my webcam wasn't recognized
[08:19] <laervian> (with wine that is...but I am not even able to install iexplorer after all :( )
[08:19] <fildo> laervian: ur sound dud
[08:19] <fildo> laervian: ur sound dude
[08:19] <Jucato> fildo: coz it came free with the Linux Bible 2005 edition. don't want it to go to waste :)
[08:19] <seishinbyou> Mind you, this webcam was purchased from a convenience store
[08:19] <laervian> seishinbyou: exactly MY problems!
[08:19] <fildo> they have a bible!
[08:19] <draik> too bad CD is available through everything else and DVD is only on torrents
[08:20] <laervian> fildo: what do you mean?
[08:20] <fildo> cause u have no output
[08:20] <Jucato> fildo: well there's also a Red Hat Linux Bible :P
[08:20] <fildo> deps on what sound u have setup
[08:20] <draik> cpk2, where???
[08:20] <seishinbyou> hmm, maybe I'll download the DVD torrent and just host it for others from my home PC later
[08:20] <cpk2> kubuntu.org
[08:20] <seishinbyou> Why not, the connection is fast enough
[08:20] <fildo> n skype will not run in full duplex mode
[08:21] <fildo> bible to me used to be called bob
[08:21] <fildo> back of book
[08:21] <fildo> well that wat 3unit maths, n about 7yrs ago
[08:22] <cpk2> draik: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/6.06.1/release.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.iso
[08:23] <fildo> thats dapper ?
[08:23] <Lynoure> fildo: yes
[08:23] <laervian> ok, I guess nobody can answer my doubts :( thanks yall in any case :)
[08:23] <fildo> yer
[08:23] <fildo> i run edgy
[08:23] <fildo> im a lil impressed
[08:24] <fildo> but not on the upgrade
[08:24] <fildo> so buggy
[08:24] <cpk2> oh damn that is dapper dvd
[08:24] <cpk2> hrmm did i get the wrong iso...
[08:24] <fildo> what you after?
[08:25] <yintelike> cpk2 not if you want dapper you didn't
[08:25] <cpk2> draik: maybe i didnt get an edgy dvd after all, but i dont have the iso physically with me so I cant check right now =X
[08:25] <draik> it is for the DVD
[08:25] <draik> it would take me 16 hours
[08:25] <draik> I don't have that kind of time ATM
[08:26] <cpk2> draik: thats the dapper dvd though =O
[08:26] <draik> whoops
[08:26] <draik> so it is
[08:26] <thyko> Jucato: gracias
[08:26] <draik> I meant edgy
[08:26] <thyko> which package has qt3 headers and libraries?
[08:27] <Healot> !info ibqt3-mt-dev
[08:27] <ubotu> Package ibqt3-mt-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[08:27] <Healot> !find libqt3-mt
[08:27] <ubotu> Found: libqt3-mt, libqt3-mt-dev, libqt3-mt-mysql, libqt3-mt-odbc, libqt3-mt-psql (and 1 others)
[08:28] <Jucato> wow! and 1 *others*
[08:28] <yintelike> hmmm odd starting mozilla-mail runs fuser /dev/dsp   but just sits there......  like a hung process   i deleted fuser and mozilla-mail starts like it should...    i'm kinda wondering about /bin/fuser why would it hang ?
[08:28] <Healot> max 5 listings
[08:29] <xsacha> !find lib
[08:29] <ubotu> Found: apt, apt-utils, binutils-dev, cgilib, cracklib-runtime (and 5890 others)
[08:29] <xsacha> lol
[08:29] <thyko> !find pcap
[08:29] <ubotu> Found: libpcap-dev, libpcap0.7, libpcap0.7-dev, libpcap0.8, libpcap0.8-dev (and 8 others)
[08:29] <thyko> hihii
[08:29] <duane> i have an external usb soundcard, how do I get KDE to output sounds to the external soundcard instead of the internal one?
[08:30] <kraut> moin
[08:32] <seishinbyou> Hrmf, maybe Kubuntu 6.10 DVD is only available via bittorrent right now
[08:33] <intelikey> hmmm odd it's kernel related.
[08:34] <intelikey> sorry if anyone answered me eariler i was so engorsed in the fuser issue that i reset the modem and also rebooted while testing....   short answer is the error is not reproducable with the prepackaged kernel
[08:36] <intelikey> thus fuser expects something that i didn't build into my kernel
[08:36] <intelikey> and yes i do realize that it would be hard for you to care any less   ;/
[08:37] <test> How do I set the locale variable?
[08:37] <intelikey> blah='something
[08:37] <intelikey> blah='something'
[08:38] <intelikey> VERIABLE='this is a test, this is only a test'  ; echo $VERIABLE
[08:40] <intelikey> VERIABLE=''    or    unset VERIABLE     clears it.
[08:40] <intelikey> we try by default to use caps for ver names and lower case for commands...
[08:41] <firebird619> I have Ubuntu Edgy Eft installed. I have Beryl installed on GNOME. I installed KDE tonight and would like to get Beryl working on it as well. Could someone help me out?
[08:42] <Jucato> firebird619: probably in #ubuntu-xgl?
[08:42] <Lynoure> intelikey: what's a veriable?
[08:42] <Jucato> #ubuntu-xgl
[08:42] <firebird619> Jucato: Ok, Thank You.
[08:42] <Lynoure> intelikey: something that need verifying?
[08:42] <intelikey> pfft i've been talking to my self all evening.
[08:42] <intelikey> Lynoure no.
[08:42] <Lynoure> :)
[08:43] <intelikey> run the test i showed....
[08:43] <Lynoure> intelikey: dict didn't help either...
[08:44] <intelikey> VERIABLE='this is a test, this is only a test!'  ; echo "$VERIABLE $VERIABLE $VERIABLE $VERIABLE"
[08:44] <Lynoure> I know the test eches the VERIABLE
[08:45] <Lynoure> But never mind, I'll stick to varibles myself.
[08:45] <seishinbyou> Or variables, even
[08:45] <Lynoure> seishinbyou: typoables, certainly
[08:46] <intelikey> where are they useful ?    in loop statements for one.   example; Q=1 ;until [ $Q = 20 ]  ;do echo $Q ; Q=$(($Q + 1)) ;done
[08:46] <Lynoure> intelikey: you mean veriables as in verchar? =)
[08:47] <firebird619> How do I get something to start when KDE starts, for example beryl-manager
[08:47] <Lynoure> (Sorry, could not resist)
[08:47] <Jucato> firebird619: in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:47] <intelikey> no
[08:47] <seishinbyou> ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:47] <firebird619> Jucato: Great, thanks.
[08:47] <intelikey> firebird619 link it ^ there
[08:48] <intelikey> link it or script it there
[08:49] <duane> i have an external usb soundcard, how do I get KDE to output sounds to the external soundcard instead of the internal one?
[08:49] <firebird619> intelikey: Do I use Link to Application?
[08:49] <intelikey> ln -s /usr/bin/app-name ~/.kde/Autostart/something
[08:49] <cpk2> anyone here use myspace? the player thing that plays music on myspace seems to be broken for me =\ and I would like to fix it
[08:50] <intelikey> probably not.
[08:50] <intelikey> @ firebird619
[08:50] <intelikey> firebird619 that don't sound like the proper process for that.  that sounds more like setting up a mime type.
[08:51] <firebird619> intelikey: I tried Link to Application. I am restarting now, will see if it works.
[08:54] <thyko> !kde header
[08:54] <reon> How do you run an application from the terminal so it returns the terminal to you when the app is started ???
[08:54] <thyko> !headers
[08:54] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[08:54] <seishinbyou> (application name) &
[08:54] <livingdaylight> In Ubuntu we can install a gmail notifier in ADD/Remove programs. Kubuntus version doesn't have it?
[08:55] <livingdaylight> Also Konqueror doesn't have extensions and add-ons available like FireFox?
[08:55] <Jucato> livingdaylight: Kubuntu and Ubuntu share the same repos, so Kubuntu will have it too
[08:55] <thyko> !kde headers
[08:55] <livingdaylight> Jucato: hi :D
[08:56] <livingdaylight> Jucato: well...you know ADD/Remove Programs you helped me find yesterday? In Ubuntu it is vast and extensive; much more so than Kubuntu from what i can tell
[08:56] <pa> Hello, I bought an IDE DVD burner, along with an external usb enclosure.  In windows XP everything works fine (i have a laptop, hence why it's external), under linux, in dmesg, i get that the device runs at low speed instead
[08:56] <pa> of usb 2.0 speed... why's that?
[08:57] <livingdaylight> Jucato: In Ubuntu we get a gmail notifier that sits in the taskbar i don't see it in Kubuntu here, - but maybe you're right and it is in the repositorires - will search in synaptic now
[08:57] <pa> in device manager, i can see that everything is hooked up to standard ohci... when it should be ehci..
[08:57] <Jucato> livingdaylight: the problem is if it's meant to work on GNOME only (gnome-panel). but if it's a system tray app, it might work on KDE too
[09:00] <pa> anyone?
[09:02] <pa> is there a way to change on the fly the ohci module that runs my usb port for the ehci module instead?
[09:03] <firebird619> intelikey: As you assumed, that Link to Application was not right. The command you gave me, can I use any name at the end where you put something?
[09:04] <Jucato> firebird619: you can drag and drop the beryl-manager file to ~/.kde/Autostart folder and select "Link here" in the popup box that appears
[09:05] <firebird619> Jucato: Ok, Thanks. Are you familiar with Beryl? One question I had about it was I see in so many screenshots, etc. that the cube is zoomed out and the user can spin it manually and so forth. How do I set that up?
[09:06] <Jucato> firebird619: sorry, no
[09:06] <livingdaylight> Jucato: found several options in repositories
[09:07] <firebird619> Jucato: Ok, thanks.
[09:07] <Jucato> livingdaylight: looks like gmail-notify would work in both GNOME and KDE, since it's written in python
[09:10] <intelikey> firebird619 yessir
[09:12] <cpk2> how exactly is "virt" calculated when you do top?
[09:12] <firebird619> intelikey: Ok, thats what I thought so I ran that command. I am having so much trouble with Ubuntu right now, for example, the KDE Panel disappears on startup, all I see is wallpaper, and before that the Window borders were disappearing. What is causing these problems. I had similar problems in Gnome where the window borders were flickering.
[09:12] <_d> has anyone successfully turned off the password/screen lock after hibernating edgy?
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> rawr
[09:13] <intelikey> what command did you run ?
[09:13] <intelikey> firebird619 ?
[09:15] <firebird619> intellikey: ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/Beryl. These problems were happening without Beryl running, at least in KDE anyway.
[09:15] <livingdaylight> Jucato: mail notification looks awesome
[09:15] <intelikey> ok  but i think you may want to start beryl-manager before kde..... not sure....
[09:15] <firebird619> intellikey: I have also been having problems with Ubuntu starting all together. I had done a clean install of Edgy, but that didn't fix anything. Could my problems be hardware related?
[09:16] <Jucato> livingdaylight: hehehe. sorry wouldn't know. I just use KMail :)
[09:16] <livingdaylight> Jucato: multi mail notifier including gmail and pop3 accounts
[09:16] <intelikey> k i have to go...
[09:16] <livingdaylight> Jucato: how does kmail notify you? or do you keep it constantly open?
[09:16] <Jucato> livingdaylight: it's running in the background. notifies me through the system tray :)
[09:17] <livingdaylight> Jucato: maybe i didn't know how to set it up properly, but although i ticked for kmail to check mail every few minutes i was never notified until i manually went and checked
[09:18] <Jucato> livingdaylight: oh? that's strange
[09:18] <livingdaylight> Jucato: but this client is great - does multi email accounts simultaneously - useful if one has more than one email account
[09:18] <livingdaylight> Jucato: yes, i thought so too :)
[09:20] <cpk2> what client is great?
[09:20] <Jucato> kmail :P
[09:20] <cpk2> heh, seconded
[09:21] <Jucato> lol. I thought you were going to say that Evolution was greater :)
[09:21] <cpk2> i remember trying to use evolution once
[09:21] <cpk2> many many moons ago
[09:22] <livingdaylight> LOL
[09:22] <livingdaylight> cpk2: and you gave up?
[09:22] <Jucato> I like that fact that I can launch KMail separately from Kontact if I want to
[09:23] <Jucato> I also didn't like Evo's UI very much...
[09:23] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i was referring to the client that notifies of mail. Mail Notifier i just found in Repositories. Multi mail notifier - great tool!
[09:23] <Jucato> reminded me too much of Outlook express
[09:23] <cpk2> gkrellm notifies
[09:23] <Jucato> livingdaylight: gmail-notifier is *not* a mail client :)
[09:24] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i know but it is a client? :s
[09:24] <Jucato> nope
[09:24] <Jucato> it's just a notifier. plain and simple :)
[09:24] <livingdaylight> Jucato: also evolution has tools that don't work. Like newsgroups just don't open in evolution
[09:24] <cpk2> gkrellm is a multimail notifier
[09:24] <Jucato> newsgroups? do those still exist?
[09:25] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i didn't see that in repos,
[09:25] <livingdaylight> Jucato: lol, yes, they do
[09:25] <cpk2> !info gkrellm
[09:25] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[09:25] <david_> hi people
[09:25] <cpk2> its actually a system monitor
[09:25] <cpk2> and happens to have a multi mail notifier =P
[09:25] <Jucato> aaah! gkrellm!!!
[09:26] <Jucato> so that's how it was spelled...
[09:26] <livingdaylight> cpk2: oh...better than my mail notifier than?
[09:26] <david_> can you help me?A i have kubuntu linux and I cant install programs
[09:26] <livingdaylight> david_: lol, whats up?
[09:26] <cpk2> livingdaylight: I have no idea what your mail notifier is =)
[09:26] <livingdaylight> david_: i mean why not?
[09:27] <Jucato> cpk2: he's using gmail-notifier, afaik
[09:27] <cpk2> well never used it heh
[09:27] <cpk2> but I am testing to see if gkrellm will work with my gmail account
[09:27] <livingdaylight> Jucato: no just mail notification which included gmail
[09:27] <cpk2> gkrellm also does local mail
[09:27] <Jucato> ah
[09:28] <cpk2> i mean hey kmail integrates into other kde crap
[09:28] <Jucato> correction!
[09:28] <Jucato> kde krap
[09:28] <cpk2> david_: what are you trying to install buddy?
[09:28] <cpk2> haha
[09:29] <cpk2> my apologies
[09:29] <Jucato> ok enough -offtopic... help out david_!!!
[09:29] <david_> it write : The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[09:29] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i asked david_ too but he don't respond
[09:30] <dognews> hi
[09:30] <Jucato> david_: what did you do before this started happening?
[09:30] <livingdaylight> hi, dognews, What's new?
[09:30] <Jucato> lol! e-mail monologue :P
[09:31] <Jucato> livingdaylight: system monitor, they say much better than lm-sensors
[09:31] <livingdaylight> cpk2: check Mail Notification
[09:31] <david_> I install linux and I want to install some programs but it is impossible
[09:31] <solemnwarning-lt> !edgy
[09:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[09:32] <livingdaylight> david_: people are trying to help you...but you have to help them help you, ok :)
[09:32] <david_> livingdaylight: ok :)
[09:33] <Jucato> going away for a while... take care! :P
[09:33] <livingdaylight> Jucato: laters :D
[09:33] <cpk2> hah gkrellm works with gmail!
[09:34] <cpk2> later Jucato
[09:34] <livingdaylight> cpk2
[09:34] <livingdaylight> cpk2: cool! i've just installed it myself
[09:34] <cpk2> well my gmail account using kmail
[09:35] <livingdaylight> cpk2: huh?
[09:35] <cpk2> david_: so did you do apt-setup and then apt-get update in a terminal
[09:35] <cpk2> livingdaylight: gkrellm can open your mailclient for you too
[09:35] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i get that, but the bit you said about gmail being able to use Kmail?
[09:35] <dognews> what programm can I use for recording mp3 (not wav) files using microphone input? (there is a great programm for win with the name "mp3directcut" - but I can't find something like that for linux)
[09:36] <livingdaylight> cpk2: that was a bit of  a bombshell... :p
[09:36] <cpk2> livingdaylight: my gmail account
[09:36] <cpk2> dognews: why not record and wave and go to mp3? (or better yet flac?)
[09:36] <cpk2> which i access via kmail
[09:37] <livingdaylight> cpk2: ah...yes, that makes sense
[09:37] <livingdaylight> cpk2: i used to do that in Opera
[09:37] <livingdaylight> cpk2: a bit too much hassle setting up thogh
[09:37] <cpk2> the gmail web access page is kinda awkward
[09:38] <Werdna> whoa, the new kubuntu is A+
[09:38] <cpk2> and setting up kmail to access your gmail account is *simple*
[09:38] <dognews> cpk2: 1. takes a lot of space 2. a lot of time for reencoding ... it's just easier and faster recording mp3 and then splitting ist directly with e.g. mp3splt ;)
[09:39] <david_> cpk2: thanks, I was try it before,but it doesn't help
[09:39] <cpk2> I am assuming krec doesnt do mp3
[09:40] <livingdaylight> Werdna: yea...just keeps getting better right? :p
[09:40] <Werdna> :-)
[09:40] <Werdna> I'm a bit annoyed though, it broked my ndiswrapper
[09:40] <livingdaylight> Kubuntu You Rock!
[09:40] <Werdna> where do the "kernel build files" live?
[09:41] <livingdaylight> *gulp*
[09:41] <livingdaylight> david_: you there still?
[09:41] <cpk2> or krecord
[09:42] <david_> livingdaylight yes, I ' m there
[09:42] <livingdaylight> david_: so, what's happening?
[09:42] <Werdna> ah, kernel-build
[09:42] <david_> livingdaylight: I cant install
[09:42] <dognews> cpk2: nope, doesn't seem to :(
[09:42] <livingdaylight> david_: so, you've just installed kubuntu?
[09:43] <david_> livingdaylight : yes
[09:43] <livingdaylight> david_: and you've not installed anything on your fresh install ever?
[09:44] <david_> livingdaylight: no programs
[09:44] <livingdaylight> david_: no, nothing or no programs?
[09:44] <dognews> cpk2: krecord either
[09:44] <david_> livingdaylight: nothing
[09:44] <cpk2> well there is an app that splits wav into tracks =P
[09:45] <livingdaylight> david_: ok, and how have you tried to, and what have you tried to install?
[09:46] <livingdaylight> david_: i need you to be more responsive than you're being if i'm gonna try
[09:46] <david_> livingdaylight: I click on K-menu and click on Add/remove programs then I input root password and then it say :
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[09:46] <david_> [09:31]  <david_> I install linux and I want to install some programs but it is impossible
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[09:46] <david_> [09:31]  <solemnwarning-lt> !edgy
[09:46] <david_> [09:31]  <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see
[09:47] <anatema> hi all
[09:47] <cpk2> well thats odd it certainly shouldnt output the irc channel
[09:47] <cpk2> =)
[09:47] <david_> please wait
[09:47] <david_> and then it say The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[09:48] <livingdaylight> david_: ok, and that doesn't help, i hear
[09:48] <livingdaylight> david_: close all that, and try using Adept. Have you tried Adept?
[09:49] <david_> adept? what is it?
[09:50] <felixjet> what happen if i do a make install without do "make" before?
[09:50] <felixjet> xD
[09:50] <cpk2> or how about following the instructions it gives and doing apt-setup?
[09:50] <livingdaylight> cpk2: he tried that
[09:50] <livingdaylight> cpk2: apparently ;)
[09:50] <cpk2> oh i just read the log more carefully =P
[09:51] <cpk2> what did apt-setup say?
[09:51] <livingdaylight> david_: Adept is the gui [graphical utility interface]  front end of APT. You find it in Applications/System
[09:51] <david_> cpk2: command not found
[09:52] <Kiongku> !adept
[09:52] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:52] <livingdaylight> Kiongku: lol, that's how you do it :D
[09:53] <Kiongku> ?
[09:53] <david_> livingdaylight: it say the same sentences The APT Database....
[09:53] <cpk2> apt-setup is part of the live cd installer
[09:53] <Furesho> can kubuntu read windows icons?
[09:54] <livingdaylight> david_: are you in the live cd? or have you made an installation?
[09:54] <Kiongku> windows icons?
[09:55] <david_> livingdaylight: I have made installation on HDD
[09:55] <Furesho> yeah.
[09:55] <Furesho> .ico files
[09:55] <cpk2> david_: and you are booting from the HDD right?
[09:56] <david_> cpk2: yes
[09:56] <livingdaylight> david_: ok, ok...geez...i'm only a noob myself. I really don't knw what to suggest. People like cpk2 know much more than i do. I'd say reinstall.
[09:56] <cpk2> nonsense
[09:56] <cpk2> reinstall is never an option!
[09:56] <Kiongku> !icoutils
[09:56] <ubotu> icoutils: Create and extract MS Windows icons and cursors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.25.0-1 (edgy), package size 62 kB, installed size 172 kB
[09:56] <cpk2> unless you are lazy =)
[09:56] <livingdaylight> david_: what system have you got?
[09:56] <Kiongku> Furesho: might be u need that package but no idea
[09:56] <Emess> wierd, kafeine still wont open
[09:57] <cpk2> david_: when you do apt-get update what does it say?
[09:57] <livingdaylight> cpk2: sometimes its got to be an option :>
[09:57] <david_> livingdaylight: kubuntu 6.06
[09:57] <Furesho> kthx
[09:57] <cpk2> livingdaylight: yah, if like i said, you are lazy it's an option =P
[09:57] <livingdaylight> david_: did you add repositories?
[09:58] <david_> cpk2: it installed some pacakges from internet buti it doesnt help
[09:58] <cpk2> david_: update doesnt install anything
[09:58] <Electrolyte> Today I should hopefully be getting a 6800 GT to test in Kubuntu :)
[09:58] <cpk2> david_: it didnt give you any errors?
[09:58] <Electrolyte> Getting rid of my X850XT :)
[09:58] <david_> livingdaylight: what is it?
[09:58] <dognews> is there a programm which I can use for doing something like: "record-wav-from-mic | lame - bla.mp3"
[09:59] <livingdaylight> cpk2: david_ has installed dapper - wondering if he's added edgy repos from the guide
[09:59] <livingdaylight> david_: lol, if you're asking then you obviously havn't. If you had you'd know
[09:59] <livingdaylight> !repos
[09:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:59] <david_> cpk2: no,no errors
[10:00] <livingdaylight> david_: repositories are internet based locations where programs are stored. They are graded in mainly 4 categories
[10:00] <cpk2> david_: ok so do sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:01] <Jucato> actually, 4 compenents per repository... and there are 4 repositories (8, if you include the source repositories...) :)
[10:02] <livingdaylight> Jucato: ahh..thx for claryifying :D
[10:03] <GnarusLeo> Hi ... I was just wondering if its possible to change the Device Icons automaticly generated for each device by KDE?
[10:03] <MetaMorfoziS> if i, with mkdev.sh can't get a noname notebook's sensors values, where the hell the acpi knows? because that switches the fans, or not?
[10:03] <livingdaylight> cpk2: that is what i was wondering
[10:03] <cpk2> upgrade is taking an awfully long time
[10:03] <livingdaylight> cpk2: he's looking for terminal
[10:04] <cpk2> livingdaylight: eh?
[10:04] <livingdaylight> cpk2: what?
[10:04] <cpk2> [01:07]  <livingdaylight> cpk2: he's looking for terminal ???
[10:05] <livingdaylight> cpk2: yea, to punch in sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:05] <cpk2> doesnt take that long to find konsole does it?
[10:05] <livingdaylight> david_: kooohoooooo....have you don't sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:05] <Jucato> *cough*done*cough*&
[10:05] <livingdaylight> cpk2: no, lol, it was a joke
[10:06] <cpk2> david_: ping
[10:06] <david_> livingdaylight: I try it,it still works,and install something from internet
[10:06] <Kiongku> Jucato to the rescue!!
[10:06] <Jucato> why would I go to the rescue? I'm quite comfy here thank you :)
[10:06] <livingdaylight> david_: it still works?
[10:06] <cpk2> david_: upgrade will install stuff from the interent
[10:06] <cpk2> the internet as well
[10:06] <pielgrzym> ok, I've got a HUGE problem
[10:07] <Kiongku> Jucato the lazy hero!
[10:07] <pielgrzym> system boot up
[10:07] <pielgrzym> but nothing seems to work
[10:07] <Jucato> Kiongku: nah. just "the lazy..."
[10:07] <Kiongku> hahaha
[10:07] <livingdaylight> Kiongku: Jucato will swoop down to the rescue when all else have failed :)
[10:07] <pielgrzym> each bash command results with 'command not found" (though kde is running)
[10:07] <Kiongku> livingdaylight: u mean he'll run away when all else have failed
[10:07] <pielgrzym> the same goes for kde apps - I get 'service damaged' message
[10:08] <pielgrzym> pls help people
[10:08] <livingdaylight> Kiongku: hahaha
[10:08] <Kiongku> service damaged?
[10:08] <pielgrzym> Kiongku: yes
[10:08] <pielgrzym> for example:
[10:08] <pielgrzym> Service '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop' is
[10:08] <pielgrzym> damaged
[10:08] <Jucato> O_O
[10:09] <pielgrzym> it's a CLEAN install
[10:09] <pielgrzym> It happens usualy at firs boot
[10:09] <pielgrzym> first
[10:09] <pielgrzym> next boot is ok
[10:09] <root> hola
[10:09] <pielgrzym> could it be related to initng?
[10:09] <cpk2> i say give it a firm talking to
[10:09] <livingdaylight> pielgrzym: well thank God for that at least
[10:09] <Kiongku> hmm
[10:09] <livingdaylight> root: hola!
[10:09] <livingdaylight> !es
[10:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:09] <root> como configurar ltsp en kubuntu
[10:09] <Kiongku> pielgrzym: rather is ur hdd good?.. seems like data corruption o.O?
[10:09] <root> por favor
[10:10] <pielgrzym> livingdaylight: cool, but I want to kill a random edgy developer for this shit :[
[10:10] <pielgrzym> Kiongku: hhd's are fine :(
[10:10] <livingdaylight> pielgrzym: lol :)
[10:10] <Kiongku> hmm
[10:10] <Jucato> hm...
[10:10] <pielgrzym> cpu usage is constant 75% though I don't do nothing
[10:10] <livingdaylight> pielgrzym: does it even have to be an Edgy developer?
[10:11] <Kiongku> kill the cd..
[10:11] <livingdaylight> Jucato 's interest is being stirred...
[10:11] <pielgrzym> can't check whats using cpu because nor top neither other commands work
[10:11] <Jucato> not really
[10:11] <Jucato> livingdaylight: quite the reverse
[10:11] <Kiongku> did u try /usr/bin/top?
[10:11] <livingdaylight> hehe
[10:11] <pielgrzym> bash: /usr/bin/top: Input/output error
[10:12] <Kiongku> hmm
[10:12] <Kiongku> mine shows top
[10:12] <pielgrzym> I can browse the disk
[10:12] <Jucato> pielgrzym: did anything out of the ordinary happened during your installation?
[10:12] <Mike2k6> Hello all, im currently a windows users who has just downloaded kubuntu, and ive heard how complex it can be to install linux compared to windows, i have chosen kubuntu and was wondering if anyone could prep me for anything i may run into while installing kubuntu that is not newbie friendly. :)
[10:12] <Kiongku> something wrong with ur I/O devices..
[10:12] <cpk2> is there anything in /usr/bin/?
[10:12] <pielgrzym> but lss doesn't seem to work (IO error)
[10:12] <pielgrzym> Jucato: nope
[10:12] <cpk2> Mike2k6: its incredibly easy =)
[10:12] <pielgrzym> cpk2: there is - next time I boot everything will be fine
[10:12] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: installing linux is very easy now.. only if u want to configure it a lot then it gets tricky
[10:13] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: have you heard that?
[10:13] <Mike2k6> heard what?
[10:13] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: how easy is windows to install?
[10:13] <Jucato> pielgrzym: that is really strange then, as this is the first time I've heard of such an issue...
[10:13] <Mike2k6> very easy, put the cd in, direct bios to boot to cd and thats it.
[10:13] <cpk2> Mike2k6: actually I would rate kubuntu being easier and faster to install than windows
[10:13] <Mike2k6> hit the r key and c eky
[10:13] <pielgrzym> Jucato: what really drives me mad is that noone can reproduce it and thus no dev wants to investigate :(((
[10:13] <Kiongku> agreed.. windows is so slow
[10:13] <Mike2k6> well i was informed that i would have to install partitions
[10:14] <Mike2k6> im fed up with all the spyware and viruses i keep getting on windows with just normal usage.
[10:14] <Jucato> pielgrzym: not enough reason to want to kill a dev, though :(
[10:14] <pielgrzym> I'm pretty sure it's due to initng or whatever this is called
[10:14] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: welcome to Kubuntu - good choice :) you will find it as easy then if not easier - plunk your cd in tray and away you go
[10:14] <cpk2> Mike2k6: are you planning on keeping windows?
[10:14] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: ya u need to make partitions but the installer helps u with it
[10:14] <Mike2k6> cp hell no
[10:14] <Mike2k6> lol
[10:14] <Mike2k6> i only got bootleg versions anyways, its probably what karma intended
[10:14] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: nice.. then do a clean format and the installer handles the remaining
[10:14] <cpk2> Mike2k6: then you dont need to worry about partitions
[10:15] <pielgrzym> funny thing is that the apps ran by kde (apps remembered in a session) work :) thats why I can IRC now :)
[10:15] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: lol, then don't worry about partitions, kill windows. you can select installer to partition automatically
[10:15] <cpk2> Mike2k6: if you arent saving any partitions then the installer will do the work for you
[10:15] <Mike2k6> i figure i can use wine for any windows apps i absolutely have to run
[10:15] <pielgrzym> there's even more
[10:15] <pielgrzym> if I go to tty1
[10:15] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: but be warned wine not guaranteed to run al windows programs
[10:15] <pielgrzym> I CAN'T LOGIN
[10:15] <pielgrzym> so it's for sure not kde fault
[10:15] <Mike2k6> kion: well of course not, linux is always in development somehow :-
[10:16] <Mike2k6> thank god there is free windows alternatives such as kubuntu
[10:16] <Kiongku> pielgrzym: ur linux is missing something relaly important then.. did u check cd for defects before starting?
[10:16] <Mike2k6> how long would you say it takes to install kubuntu?
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: do you use windows professionally?
[10:16] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: 30 mins at most?
[10:16] <Vipercat> totally new to linux so please excuse stupid questions but what the difference between a tar and a rpm file ?
[10:16] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: what modem are u using though.. ethernet?
[10:16] <Mike2k6> yeah yeah rj 45
[10:17] <pielgrzym> Kiongku: of course :) after destroying my dapper with dist-upgrade I was very, very causious
[10:17] <livingdaylight> perfect
[10:17] <Mike2k6> i already downloaded it
[10:17] <Kiongku> a tar is a compressed file while rpm is the package for red hate distros
[10:17] <pielgrzym> cautious
[10:17] <MistaED> Mike2k6: my cdrom was slow on this machine and it took 45 minutes, but on faster machines it has been 20-30 mins on average
[10:17] <Mike2k6> i was using knoppix the other day just to test linux out when someone reccomended kubuntu
[10:17] <Kiongku> *red hat
[10:17] <Kiongku> rj 45 = dial up?
[10:17] <pielgrzym> ok, guys I'm doing a reboot and hopefully everything will be ok :(
[10:17] <Mike2k6> rj 45 is another word for an ethernet port
[10:17] <Mike2k6> rj 11 is the phone jack
[10:17] <Mike2k6> its a motherboard term
[10:17] <Kiongku> oh sorry not used to ethernet things a lot though
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: like i said Kubuntu is a good choice. But there are other arguably even friendlier to window users, distros out there
[10:17] <Vipercat> whats a red hat distro and how do i know which one to use
[10:18] <Mike2k6> living: i plan to use it first to get used to it and then convert my friends and family, cause windows is suckin nowdays, i got a perfectly good computer with 1gb ram etc and it runs slower than a donkey
[10:18] <Kiongku> Vipercat: ur currently using the kubuntu distro if ur here.. red hat is just another linux distribution
[10:18] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: do you already know what window apps you want to run? like i asked is it for personal or business too?
[10:18] <MistaED> ubuntu/kubuntu is easy but it doesn't dumb anything down to be a windows clone like other easier distros strive to do
[10:19] <Mike2k6> living: oh just personal apps i guess, however i plan to start a business one day
[10:19] <livingdaylight> MistaED: i agree, but for some a linux window clone may be preferable
[10:19] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: dude, then its perfect
[10:19] <Mike2k6> living: like xandros lol
[10:20] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: go have a test drive with the cd
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: lol, you know already :p Linspire too
[10:20] <Mike2k6> kion: tested knoppix live cd last night
[10:20] <Mike2k6> well ill be back in around 20-30 mins then, or not, ill let ya know how it goes
[10:20] <david_> THANK YOU ALL ESPECIALLY LIVINGDAYLIGHT AND CPK2, it run and I can install programs
[10:20] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: now test kubuntu :P and i u like it just start the conversion right away and we talk about fine tunings later..
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: what Kiongku means is test with teh kubuntu live cd and when you feel ready just click 'Installer'
[10:21] <livingdaylight> david_: Kool, what happened?
[10:21] <Kiongku> His pc was enlightened by the power of livingdaylight and cpk2
[10:21] <Mike2k6> living: oh? does the cd have a formatting program on it like the windows xp cd? cause waiting for your comp to format using dos takes FOREVER and a day
[10:21] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: oh, and see you on the other side shortly :)
[10:21] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: is has its own format program with the installer
[10:21] <david_> livingdaylight: I try sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:22] <Mike2k6> AMEN KIONGKU!
[10:22] <Mike2k6> lol
[10:22] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: think the format is quite fast and stratight forward
[10:22] <Mike2k6> ciao my new friends! lol
[10:22] <Mike2k6> 1 thing tho.
[10:22] <Mike2k6> eff windows.
[10:22] <Kiongku> well i just upgrade to egy 2 days ago.. crashed yesterday and reinstalled and already set up XD
[10:22] <Kiongku> i still dunt know what the heck kdesu went into
[10:23] <livingdaylight> Kiongku: did kedsu cause you trouble?
[10:23] <Kiongku> livingdaylight: yup like.. not working
[10:23] <Kiongku> what does cpk means?
[10:23] <livingdaylight> woah...cpk1 soon you will just be cpk?
[10:23] <pielgrzym> now everything is fine
[10:24] <Kiongku> Captain Power Kool
[10:24] <pielgrzym> what part of system is responsible for running applications?
[10:24] <livingdaylight> Kiongku: i also experienced trouble with kdesu ..... i think [was yesterday afterall]
[10:24] <Kiongku> hahah
[10:24] <Kiongku> pielgrzym: running? kde programs?
[10:25] <cpk1> livingdaylight: i finally got cpk1 to be dropped =D
[10:25] <Vipercat> what file type do i need to download to installa program onto kubuntu and what do i use to install it ?
[10:25] <pielgrzym> Kiongku: running all programs, services etc. something very close to kernel? a kernel? :)
[10:25] <cpk1> livingdaylight: and no, i like cpk1 more than cpk =)
[10:25] <Kiongku> Vipercat: look for adept
[10:25] <Kiongku> !adept
[10:25] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:25] <pielgrzym> I'm making a bug report and have to choose a package :)
[10:26] <Kiongku> pielgrzym: i'm not so technical as that.. i only know that i need a terminal and i just call them XD..
[10:26] <duane> how the hell can i make kde save sessions on logout and reload previous session on logout?
[10:26] <duane> i cant find the option anymore
[10:26] <Kiongku> duane: press alt+F2 then type kcontrol and go look
[10:27] <eilker> !lamp
[10:27] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:27] <Kiongku> bleh.. not puttin a server..
[10:28] <Kiongku> LOl the client and the user left
[10:28] <Kiongku> now missing only server
[10:30] <eilker> !apache > eilker
[10:31] <Kiongku> !apache > Kiongku
[10:35] <eeos> has anyone been able to use microsoft internet explorer on kubuntu using wine?
[10:36] <xsacha> yes
[10:36] <Jucato> eeos: ies4linux
[10:36] <xsacha> i dunno about ie7
[10:36] <eeos> xsacha can you give me some hints
[10:36] <xsacha> the distro shouldnt really matter eeos
[10:36] <eeos> xsacha I need ie 6 something
[10:37] <eeos> xsacha I was used to mandriva, was quite quick to configure
[10:37] <dudemeister> i have a question about upgrading to edge. i have some hand-compiled programs and an alternative window manager installed. when i do the upgrade will it all be kept?
[10:37] <eeos> xsacha having problem with kubuntu
[10:37] <xsacha> what's problem?
[10:37] <Jucato> eeos: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[10:37] <eeos> Jucato thanks
[10:37] <eeos> xsacha installed wine, cannot find winecfg
[10:38] <livingdaylight> Wine is just something i drink - never install
[10:38] <xsacha> oh, just type in: winecfg ?
[10:38] <Jucato> eeos: Alt+F2, "winecfg"
[10:38] <Jucato> *but*
[10:38] <eeos> Jucato thanks for the link!
[10:39] <eeos> Jucato xsacha  followed documentation, winecfg is not on the system :(
[10:39] <Jucato> if you press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", there's a Wine Configuration GUI in the Administration group
[10:39] <livingdaylight> Wondering: Do folks in Kubuntu use Konqueror for browsing or immediately install Firefox?
[10:39] <xsacha> if you installed it, it should have gone to /usr/bin/winecfg
[10:39] <cpk1> I'm using konq
[10:39] <cpk1> they seem the same to me
[10:39] <xsacha> eeos: what method of installation? did you use the debs for 0.9.24?
[10:39] <eeos> xsacha it is not there, cannot find it with whereis
[10:39] <Jucato> cpk1: it would be useful if you're trying to develop for cross-browser compatibility
[10:40] <livingdaylight> cpk1: they look quite different things. Yes, of course they are browser clients.
[10:40] <eeos> xsacha I used the recommended repository on winehq
[10:40] <xsacha> argh, why not use the kubuntu one?
[10:40] <Jucato> eeos: you're on Dapper, I presume?
[10:40] <livingdaylight> cpk1: And Konqueror doesn't have all the add-ons /Extensions available, ami right?
[10:40] <eeos> Jucato yes
[10:40] <cpk1> xsacha: because the wine in the default repos is *old*
[10:40] <xsacha> is it only on edgy?
[10:40] <cpk1> livingdaylight: such as what?
[10:40] <xsacha> i got 0.9.23 deb last week
[10:41] <Jucato> xsacha: no. but the winehq repo is only for Dapper
[10:41] <livingdaylight> cpk1: well, FF comes with hundreds of extensions and themes, dictionaries mail notifiers etc etc...
[10:41] <Jucato> eeos: that would be strange, since winecfg comes with wine automatically
[10:41] <eeos> Jucato xsacha could it e that I am using kubuntu for amd64?
[10:41] <Jucato> oh!
[10:41] <Jucato> yes of course
[10:41] <xsacha> i am also using amd64 kubuntu
[10:42] <xsacha> but use 32-bit wine still, run it with linux32
[10:42] <Jucato> I though wine only works on 32bit?
[10:42] <cpk1> livingdaylight: the only thing that I used in FF was adblock and konq has one already
[10:42] <wedgeV> livingdaylight: thats why i use firefox now again, i'm used to some of those extension
[10:42] <Jucato> ah there
[10:42] <eeos> xsacha COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE 32 BIT THING?
[10:42] <Jucato> livingdaylight: just a matter of personal preference. even though Fx has hundreds of extensions, I have no need of any of them. so extensions are not a convincing factor for *me* :)
[10:43] <eeos> xsacha sorry for uppercae
[10:43] <livingdaylight> Jucato: naturally, yes...
[10:43] <xsacha> do you have linux32? there's only a 32-bit version and it iwll install as 32-bit, so no need to worry.. just need linux32 (and the libs) to run it
[10:43] <cpk1> Jucato: ditto
[10:43] <Kiongku> kopete + msn = bad combo
[10:43] <xsacha> it doesnt change the fact that you dont have winecfg -- and you need it :P
[10:43] <cpk1> although I have a bit of a browser problem right now...
[10:43] <Jucato> now, Google services, on the other hand, is a *big* convincing factor for me to use Fx *sometimes*
[10:43] <cpk1> google services?
[10:44] <xsacha> ajax...
[10:44] <Jucato> cpk1: google products
[10:44] <wedgeV> they work fine in konqueror for me
[10:44] <eeos> xsacha how do I force installtion of wine 32 bit?
[10:44] <Jucato> Reader, Blogger, Docs & Spreadsheets, Calendar, Page Creator
[10:44] <xsacha> wine will *only* install as 32-bit,
[10:44] <Jucato> Notebook, Picasa Web
[10:44] <eeos> xsacha do I downloa dpackages and then install, or do I create a chroot?
[10:44] <Jucato> only Gmail works perfectly
[10:44] <xsacha> eeos: it's just a normal install..
[10:45] <xsacha> did you do a howto?
[10:45] <xsacha> you might need --force-architecture ?
[10:45] <cpk1> you use gmail in your browser?
[10:45] <cpk1> pretty sure you need a chroot
[10:45] <Jucato> cpk1: only to "mark as read" the e-mails
[10:45] <xsacha> no
[10:45] <cpk1> Jucato: I have 300 unread if I open gmail in a browser =)
[10:46] <Jucato> cpk1: hehe.. that's why
[10:46] <cpk1> Jucato: and i think there is an option to mark them as read when you get them via pop3
[10:46] <Jucato> and it's extremely hard to mark them all! :)
[10:46] <Jucato> cpk1: no. POP3 doesn't do that afaik
[10:46] <xsacha> try this eeos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557
[10:46] <eeos> xsacha sorry, I do not know about the --force-architecture. could you please axplain.
[10:46] <Jucato> it only deletes from the server once downloaded
[10:46] <xsacha> sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i wine_0.9.23~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[10:46] <felixjet> where is the option to create that button in the titlebars to collapse the window
[10:46] <xsacha> this is exact line i used
[10:47] <Jucato> felixjet: you mean shading windows?
[10:47] <xsacha> it works on edgy too, i used the dapper one on edgy :P
[10:48] <felixjet> Jucato:  its a button at the left of toolbar, that when u press it, the whole window "hide" in the tool bar, and click again and it expand
[10:48] <felixjet> do you understand?
[10:49] <xsacha> sounds like shade
[10:49] <felixjet> i dunno how is tech name
[10:49] <xsacha> double click the titlebar
[10:49] <duane> how can i get kde to save and reload previous session at startup?
[10:49] <Jucato> toolbar or the window titlebar?
[10:49] <duane> i cant find the option
[10:49] <felixjet> titlebar
[10:49] <xsacha> (unless, like me you changed double click to maximise :))
[10:49] <duane> there was a session thing in control center in dapper
[10:49] <Jucato> duane: Edgy?
[10:49] <felixjet> it maximize xsacha :(
[10:50] <Jucato> duane: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[10:50] <xsacha> you changed it too? :)
[10:50] <felixjet> wait, can i paste here a url with an image?
[10:50] <Jucato> felixjet: yes
[10:50] <duane> 5hqnkw
[10:50] <duane> thankks
[10:50] <xsacha> felxijet: we know what you mean
[10:50] <xsacha> felixjet: just what do you want to do?
[10:50] <felixjet> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre2/13969-2.jpg
[10:50] <xsacha> felixjet: do you want to change it? it's in system settings->desktop->window behaviour
[10:51] <Jucato> xsacha: I think he wants the button
[10:51] <xsacha> ohh
[10:51] <Jucato> felixjet: do you want the button on your title bar?
[10:51] <felixjet> the icons to expand/collapse window
[10:51] <felixjet> yaya
[10:51] <felixjet> im looking in window behaviour but nothing related
[10:52] <Jucato> felixjet: System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations -> Buttons tab -> check "Use custom titlebar button positions" and drag and drop to your heart's content
[10:53] <felixjet> omg
[10:53] <felixjet> i was looking at the other button tab
[10:53] <Jucato> ??
[10:53] <xsacha> :)
[10:53] <felixjet> the one inside window behaviour
[10:53] <xsacha> can just drag shade up
[10:53] <felixjet> thanks !
[10:54] <felixjet> i love that powerfull button hah
[10:55] <xsacha> it definately shouldnt be on double click as default
[10:55] <xsacha> maybe they wanna save space
[10:55] <felixjet> i got maximize as default when i installed kubuntu
[10:55] <xsacha> :S
[10:57] <Kiongku> Qemu?
[10:57] <Jucato> yeah
[10:57] <Jucato> didn't want to use VMWare this time, as it installs and sets up stuff that don't get removed when uninstalled...
[10:57] <xsacha> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:57] <Kiongku> duh
[10:58] <Jucato> xsacha: yeah I'm actually staring at that right now
[10:58] <Jucato> maybe something with the FC 3 installer lol
[10:58] <xsacha> is there any emulator doing video acceleration you know of?
[10:58] <duane> damn im kinda pissed i cant get beryl to work :(
[10:59] <Jucato> xsacha: virtually impossible for now...
[10:59] <duane> at least my external soundcard works tho
[10:59] <xsacha> :(
[10:59] <Jucato> VMWare is working on something like that though, but beta is only available on VMWare Workstation
[11:00] <xsacha> i was hoping virtual pc 2007 would do it.. but it just turned out to be identical to virtual pc 2004 :( with some non-video acceleration
[11:00] <Jucato> virtual pc.. never heard of them...
[11:00] <wedge_> duane: what external soundcard do you have?
[11:00] <xsacha> they even left the copyright 2003 and "virtual pc 2004" on virtual pc 2007 lol
[11:00] <eeos> xsacha thanks for the link you sent me, I am studyying it!
[11:00] <duane> wedge_: audiotrak maya44usb
[11:00] <Jucato> lol
[11:01] <xsacha> i guess they dont care about VPC anymore as its free now
[11:03] <wedge_> duane: is recording working too?
[11:03] <duane> wedge_: havent tried to record
[11:03] <duane> i do i all my recording in xp
[11:03] <wedge_> ah, ok
[11:04] <eeos> xsacha i hope it works well on 6.06, I am scared about upgrading to 6.10 because I performed many modification, compilations on the system
[11:04] <xsacha> :P
[11:04] <Kiongku> !beryl
[11:04] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[11:05] <Jucato> lol I think I know where I went wrong...
[11:05] <xsacha> about recording.. for some reason my sound recorder isnt getting much input... i have mic on 100% and when i speak into it i hear this little tiny voice in background
[11:06] <xsacha> the input level shows it hit max
[11:06] <xsacha> in KRecord
[11:07] <xsacha> hmm another thing i notice... input level starts at -100 dB and goes up to 0 :S
[11:07] <Kiongku> !compiz
[11:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:07] <Kiongku> thats the 3d desktop?
[11:08] <Jucato> next week, prepping myself to try out... Beryl!! :)
[11:08] <Jucato> Kiongku: the one with the cube, yes
[11:08] <Jucato> but there's an app called 3D Desktop, too. nothing to do with it
[11:08] <xsacha> beryl is fork of it (compiz) with improved eye candy :)
[11:08] <Jucato> yep yep
[11:08] <Jucato> more updated too
[11:08] <Kiongku> bleh.. i like the eye cnady of e
[11:09] <xsacha> that's called eye candy? :S
[11:09] <Jucato> bleh
[11:09] <Kiongku> *candy..  not goign to mess with 3d yet
[11:09] <xsacha> :P
[11:09] <Jucato> :)
[11:09] <Jucato> xsacha: well, since I'm on edgy, and perfectly confident with my install... time to dive in! :)
[11:09] <Jucato> this is the time to be edgy and go over the edge!!
[11:09] <Kiongku> i already dived in e :P but no one followed..
[11:10] <[H5N1] > Lucky you
[11:10] <[H5N1] > I can't install edgy.
[11:10] <xsacha> Jucato: from edgy i just installed beryl+emerald and then type in "beryl" -- working straight off :)
[11:10] <luca_b> I am using a production machine on edgy, currently.
[11:10] <[H5N1] > No root filsystem bug for me
[11:10] <xsacha> the open source drivers + aiglx just worked out of box
[11:10] <Mike2k6> Guess who's back, back agai lol
[11:10] <[H5N1] > :/
[11:10] <Jucato> luca_b: whoa! brave soul :)
[11:10] <Mike2k6> hrm
[11:11] <xsacha> wouldnt run beryl on that luca_b .. i've had 2 completely random X restarts related to beryl so far this week
[11:12] <artefact2> hi all
[11:12] <Mike2k6> hi
[11:12] <artefact2> how do i install macromedia flash for Konqueror ? :D
[11:12] <Jucato> !flash | artefact2
[11:12] <ubotu> artefact2: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:12] <Mike2k6> anyone notice that the web browsing on kubuntu is a little slower than xp?
[11:12] <xsacha> nup
[11:12] <Jucato> Mike2k6: you were running on a Live CD. everything will be slower
[11:12] <artefact2> Jucato > thx :)
[11:12] <Mike2k6> i "was" lol
[11:12] <Mike2k6> i just got done installing it
[11:12] <Mike2k6> only took 15 mins :-)
[11:13] <Jucato> ah
[11:13] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: hahaha told u
[11:13] <Mike2k6> now i got nothing but kubuntu on here "-p
[11:13] <Mike2k6> it was soo ez..... ezier than xp actually.
[11:13] <Jucato> Mike2k6: well, didn't notice if it was slower or not.
[11:13] <Mike2k6> and cool cause you can still browse the web n stuff while you install it lol
[11:13] <Jucato> Mike2k6: it could be some IPv6 thingy...
[11:14] <Jucato> yeah that's cool. you could even chat while installing
[11:14] <Mike2k6> could be someone downloading porn on the network too lol
[11:14] <xsacha> lol
[11:14] <Jucato> lol
[11:14] <luca_b> Jucato: I don't use fancy xgl beryl stuff though
[11:14] <Mike2k6> nahhh, that never happens
[11:14] <Mike2k6> speaking of downloading porn, is there a p2p client like limewire i can get?
[11:14] <Jucato> but browsing/chatting while installing will really make things slow
[11:14] <Mike2k6> for mp3 purposes of course
[11:14] <Mike2k6> lol
[11:14] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: hmm that harder to say
[11:14] <xsacha> Mike2k6: frostwire would be same as limewire, but there are other apps
[11:15] <cpk1> Mike2k6: you can use frostwire but bit torrent is much better
[11:15] <Mike2k6> whats reccomended?
[11:15] <cpk1> use a bit torrent client
[11:15] <xsacha> hard to recommend one, too many :P
[11:15] <Jucato> frostwire is a bit of a trouble right now...
[11:15] <Mike2k6> bah humbug
[11:15] <xsacha> i only use what i use because im too lazy to checkout alternatives
[11:15] <Jucato> wouldn't recommend it right now :)
[11:15] <cpk1> Mike2k6: are you familiar with bit torrent?
[11:15] <Mike2k6> cpk: yeah, i had bitlord and bitcomet for a bit
[11:15] <artefact2> Jucato > it works, thx ^^
[11:16] <xsacha> KTorrent comes with kubuntu
[11:16] <cpk1> and azureus is pretty nice too
[11:16] <Mike2k6> whats a good one for linux? this should be interesting seeing as how i never have installed an app on linux before
[11:16] <duane> calc dmix
[11:16] <Jucato> artefact2: no problem
[11:16] <Mike2k6> i heard about azureus being cool
[11:16] <bioticpro> Anyone here use KMLdonkey? (I need config help)
[11:16] <cpk1> ktorrent should already be installed
[11:16] <Jucato> Mike2k6: KTorrent, a bittorrent client, is installed by default already
[11:16] <Mike2k6> lets check it out :-p
[11:16] <cpk1> Mike2k6: are you using edgy or dapper?
[11:16] <Mike2k6> edgy
[11:17] <cpk1> ok good that means if you want to use azureus it will actually work =)
[11:17] <Mike2k6> amen brother
[11:18] <cpk1> I am guessing that dapper wont be getting as many updates to multiverse and universe
[11:18] <Mike2k6> bahh humbug im going to download azureus
[11:19] <Jucato> ??
[11:19] <Mike2k6> should i download azureus from source forge or what?
[11:19] <xsacha> !azureus | Mike2k6
[11:19] <ubotu> Mike2k6: azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[11:20] <xsacha> !info azureus
[11:20] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[11:20] <luca_b> Mike2k6: it is a matter of preference, personally I *wouldn't* use azureus unless you need some of its functionality
[11:20] <xsacha> it's in adept Mike2k6
[11:20] <Mike2k6> well i just want the limewire like experience where you select "audio" and search for your stuff
[11:20] <Jucato> because Azureus uses Java, which, depending on your system, might slow things a bit...
[11:20] <cpk1> at least using azureus will get him to set up the sun java =P
[11:20] <cpk1> Mike2k6: no bit torrent client is like that
[11:20] <Mike2k6> well im on a p4 2.0ghz, 1gb corsair ddr400, and 100gb ata 133 hdd
[11:21] <xsacha> he wants a network client gnutella/openft
[11:21] <Mike2k6> 128mb geforce mx4000 ddr vid card
[11:21] <Mike2k6> yeah a gnutella port or something
[11:21] <zurciu> hello everybody:)
[11:21] <xsacha> this: http://rocbo.lautre.net/spip/IMG/png/frostwire-small.png
[11:21] <Mike2k6> well im not looking for jail time either if you know what i mean
[11:22] <zurciu> have just installed linux :D
[11:22] <xsacha> this is frostwire Mike2k6: http://www.cybersource.us/images/screenshots/frostwire.jpg
[11:22] <Mike2k6> yeah thats exactly what im lookin for
[11:22] <Mike2k6> however the roomer is they are in trouble yeah?
[11:22] <xsacha> they are? :S
[11:22] <Mike2k6> isnt that what cpk said?
[11:23] <Mike2k6> nahh not cpk
[11:23] <Mike2k6> [04:15]  <Jucato> frostwire is a bit of a trouble right now...
[11:24] <Jucato> afaik, there's a problem with the Frostwire script in Edgy
[11:24] <Mike2k6> wouldnt hurt to try it out
[11:24] <xsacha> !frostwire | Mike2k6
[11:24] <ubotu> Mike2k6: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:24] <cpk1> IMO bit torrent is far supperior to any gnutella type protocol
[11:25] <cpk1> remove a p from there
[11:25] <Mike2k6> depends, bit torrent requires the use of a web browser of some sort.
[11:25] <Mike2k6> having to wait for load times of web pages can suck
[11:25] <cpk1> huh?
[11:25] <xsacha> for searching for torrents he means
[11:25] <cpk1> you still have to wait for a search no matter what
[11:25] <Mike2k6> dont you have to use like a website such as torrentspy?
[11:25] <Jucato> Mike2k6: KTorrent has an embedded browser :)
[11:26] <xsacha> but still have to search :P
[11:26] <cpk1> yes... but either way you are still using a search
[11:26] <cpk1> which you need to wait for
[11:26] <Mike2k6> i guess its just self pref
[11:26] <xsacha> suckers who dont have KTelepathy yet
[11:26] <Mike2k6> its just every time i tried to get a file on torrents in the past it would just download at like 20kb/s and no faster, no matter what file i was trying to get even with 100000seeders or w/e it claimed
[11:27] <cpk1> well it could have been user error =)
[11:27] <Mike2k6> most likely
[11:27] <xsacha> i find it hard to find seeds
[11:27] <Mike2k6> amen xsacha
[11:27] <xsacha> i downloaded this movie @ 800KB/s...
[11:28] <xsacha> at 97%, i lost all seeds
[11:28] <xsacha> almost 2 days later, it's still at 97%
[11:28] <Mike2k6> cause you werent sharing!
[11:28] <xsacha> naah i was sharing
[11:28] <Mike2k6> The file http://www.peercommons.com/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[11:28] <xsacha> there's 30 leechers and 0 seeders right now,..
[11:28] <cpk1> Mike2k6: use apt-get
[11:28] <cpk1> or adept
[11:29] <Mike2k6> as easy as its put...... i dont get what your saying
[11:29] <Mike2k6> lol
[11:29] <Mike2k6> its like telling me to get into my farrari..... but i never seen it before
[11:29] <cpk1> Mike2k6: open a terminal (konsole)
[11:29] <cpk1> !info frostwire
[11:29] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[11:29] <cpk1> oh hrmm
[11:29] <xsacha> Mike2k6: check your driveway, your apt-get(ferrarri) is waiting
[11:30] <cpk1> well apparently frostwire isnt in the repos
[11:30] <xsacha> it isnt :(
[11:30] <Mike2k6> lol @ xsacha, they got a tar and a zip i can downloaded besides the .deb
[11:30] <xsacha> just need the .deb
[11:30] <Mike2k6> ok i got a console open, do i type apt-get link
[11:31] <cpk1> Mike2k6: download the .deb
[11:31] <Jucato> no debs. just scripts that might not run because of the switch from BASH to DASH
[11:31] <cpk1> Mike2k6: it wont be AS easy because you actually need to download the deb
[11:31] <Mike2k6> ok so frostwire is a no go, in other words
[11:32] <cpk1> Jucato: .debs might fail because of DASH?
[11:32] <xsacha> im sure there's people running kubuntu right now who have never used anything buy adept :)
[11:32] <xsacha> but
[11:32] <Jucato> cpk1: I said "script"
[11:32] <Mike2k6> meow meow meow meow.....
[11:33] <Mike2k6> lol
[11:33] <cpk1> Mike2k6: no frostwire is fine, download the .deb from frostwire.com
[11:34] <Mike2k6> so rightclick and click save as?
[11:34] <Mike2k6> and save it as something.deb?
[11:34] <Mike2k6> cause just clicking the link strait opens up kate, and tells me its a binary file and saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[11:34] <xsacha> should just need left click, then save as
[11:34] <xsacha> oh.. kate.. evil
[11:35] <Mike2k6>  nod
[11:35] <cpk1> Mike2k6: i noticed, so yeah right click and save as =)
[11:35] <xsacha> ok, right click, save as
[11:35] <Mike2k6> so name it something.deb?
[11:35] <Mike2k6> right, cause the default input is download.php
[11:35] <xsacha> oh.. :S
[11:35] <Mike2k6> and i dont think thats what im aiming for
[11:35] <xsacha> huh?
[11:35] <Jucato> just rename it as .deb and it will be fine I think
[11:35] <Mike2k6> we shall see!
[11:35] <Jucato> can you give me the link so I can confirm?
[11:36] <cpk1> doesnt really matter as long as you rename to .deb
[11:36] <Sharketor> hello all
[11:36] <sparr> so...  dash vs bash vs sh.  opinions?
[11:36] <Jucato> afaik, that's true :)
[11:36] <Jucato> sparr: sh is bash
[11:36] <cpk1> Jucato: kget is dumb and likes to name everything download.php
[11:36] <Jucato> or rather, a symlink (I thnk)
[11:36] <xsacha> dash to your nearest dash and bash it up
[11:36] <Jucato> cpk1: not always... I think it has something to do with webpages too
[11:36] <Sharketor> why konsole and konversation start automatically on boot?????
[11:37] <xsacha> cause they are in startup
[11:37] <cpk1> downtown area shuttle? why would i want to beat that up?
[11:37] <Kiongku> no lol
[11:37] <Kiongku> bcoz of session
[11:37] <Kiongku> probably was left open when last logged in
[11:37] <Jucato> Sharketor: you left them open when you logged out
[11:37] <cpk1> you logged out when they were open?
[11:37] <Kiongku> Jucato: was saying that
[11:37] <cpk1> Mike2k6: you get the .deb downloaded?
[11:38] <Jucato> yeah
[11:38] <Mike2k6> ok this is confusing me, the link is to a php page right, however it has one of those damn php commands in the url ?=http:/blah/file.deb
[11:38] <Sharketor> I don'e know, maybe it is so
[11:38] <Mike2k6> so i cant access the link to the deb
[11:38] <Sharketor> :)
[11:38] <skylermoon> Hi! :)
[11:38] <sparr> Jucato: that depends on what version of ubuntu you run.  or which packages you install.  both bash and dash can provide /bin/sh
[11:38] <Mike2k6> i input the link http://www.peercommons.com/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb into the konqueror browser and it opens it up into the browser.
[11:38] <Mike2k6> which is ghey....
[11:38] <skylermoon> So this is the first time I have actually installed kubuntu
[11:38] <Sharketor> xsacha: how can I see what is in startup???
[11:39] <xsacha> it's not in startup :P
[11:39] <Jucato> Mike2k6: why would you put it in the browser?
[11:39] <xsacha> but startup is in systemsetting->advanced
[11:39] <Mike2k6> where else am i gonna put it?
[11:39] <cpk1> Mike2k6: http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://mirror1.peercommons.net/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb just do save as
[11:39] <Mike2k6> yeah but that would be saving the php file wouldnt it?
[11:39] <Mike2k6> since it directs you to the php page, and then to the file.
[11:39] <cpk1> Mike2k6: noooooooooooooooooo, save it as frostwire.deb
[11:40] <Mike2k6> ok! lol
[11:40] <Jucato> rename the download.php as frostwire.deb
[11:40] <Sharketor> ok
[11:40] <cpk1> or name it skgfddfljld.deb or fgjdsgur.deb whatever you want as long as it ends in .deb
[11:40] <Mike2k6> we are making progress hehe
[11:41] <Itay> Can I install Ubuntu via chroot?
[11:41] <Mike2k6> ok
[11:41] <Mike2k6> well i got it downloaded
[11:41] <cpk1> Mike2k6: where did you download it? your home directory?
[11:41] <Mike2k6> yep
[11:41] <eeos> Jucato xsacha wow! it works wonderfully! THANKS A LOT!
[11:41] <Mike2k6> in meiner hause directory
[11:42] <Mike2k6> eeos: don't it tho?
[11:42] <is_null> hello everybody, the machine just got a fresh install of current kubuntu distro, it won't boot : atiixp: codec reset timout, any help please ?
[11:42] <cpk1> Mike2k6: so open a terminal (konsole) and type sudo dkpg install frostwire.deb
[11:42] <eeos> Jucato xsacha I could install 3 versions on microsft ie
[11:42] <Jucato> cpk1: he can just right-click :)
[11:42] <Mike2k6> where do i access a terminal app?
[11:42] <Jucato> eeos: hehe nice! :)
[11:42] <Mike2k6> juc: oh sir?
[11:43] <is_null> i'll try a chroot if this can't be fixed through grub
[11:43] <eeos>  Jucato xsacha very smoothly. I am very grateful to you two. :)
[11:43] <cpk1> Jucato: oh oops, me and my CLI =X
[11:43] <Mike2k6> cpk right click and do what?
[11:43] <Mike2k6> so many options.
[11:43] <eeos>  Jucato xsacha I am only missing ms ie 7 now (only for tests of course)
[11:43] <xsacha> there's a right click->install?
[11:43] <Jucato> cpk1: it's ok :)
[11:43] <Mike2k6> xsacha have mercy on the newb.
[11:43] <Jucato> Mike2k6: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> install Package
[11:43] <Jucato> xsacha: since Dapper :)
[11:44] <xsacha> ill have to check that out sometime
[11:44] <Jucato> cpk1: it's the prerogative of the one helping :)
[11:44] <Mike2k6> ok i installed it i guess
[11:44] <Mike2k6> where is it?
[11:44] <Jucato> xsacha: nothing spectacular. it's just xterm launched withthe dpkg command :)
[11:44] <xsacha> lol
[11:45] <Jucato> s/withthe/with the
[11:45] <Jucato> Mike2k6: check in your K Menu
[11:45] <cpk1> Mike2k6: in your bin probably, and in the kmenu
[11:45] <Jucato> possibly in the Internet sub-menu
[11:45] <Mike2k6> ok
[11:45] <Mike2k6> corner*
[11:46] <cpk1> does edgy update the kmenu right away now?
[11:46] <Mike2k6> yeah
[11:46] <xsacha> ill try installing frostwire too :) yeah cpk1.. for me anyway
[11:46] <Mike2k6> it was in the internet sub
[11:46] <Mike2k6> however it said loading, and then it dissappeared on me
[11:46] <Jucato> cpk1: it does now :)
[11:47] <xsacha> wget to get the file so i didnt need to mess around with that kate or download.php :)
[11:47] <cpk1> and is dapper going to get updates besides security ones?
[11:47] <xsacha> using konqueror to install is so hard, gotta find the file in this mess lol
[11:48] <Mike2k6> ok frostwire isnt working, i click on it, it shows up in the task bar, i hover my mouse over it, shows "loading application" about 10 seconds passes and then it dissappears.
[11:48] <xsacha> ah damn :(
[11:48] <xsacha> i have same thing
[11:48] <Mike2k6> i need mp3s!!!!
[11:48] <cpk1> run it from terminal
[11:48] <Mike2k6> kk
[11:48] <cpk1> see what it says
[11:49] <xsacha> runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[11:49] <Mike2k6> terminal? you mean a console window?
[11:49] <cpk1> yeah
[11:49] <Mike2k6> how do i access that?
[11:49] <Jucato> same banana :)
[11:49] <is_null> hello eveybody, this is what i get when trying to boot from a fresh install : http://pastebin.ca/230622 any help please ?
[11:50] <Jucato> told yah about the scripts :)
[11:50] <cpk1> and there is a fix for that error =)
[11:50] <xsacha> grr
[11:50] <cpk1> kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire
[11:50] <Mike2k6> nvm found it
[11:50] <cpk1> change sh runFrost.sh to bash runFrost.sh
[11:50] <Mike2k6> how do i run frostwire from terminal?
[11:50] <cpk1> Jucato: I sure dont want frostwire =)
[11:51] <cpk1> Mike2k6: xsacha already gave us the error =)
[11:51] <Jucato> cpk1: er.. don't you have to change #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash ?
[11:51] <is_null> Mike2k6: maybe you need to chmod x+r runFrost.sh
[11:51] <Mike2k6> is_null reminds me of a webserver the way you talk.
[11:51] <xsacha> after fixing the script, i get another error :P You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[11:51] <sparr> cpk1: what Jucato said
[11:51] <sparr> cpk1: that way you dont have to call it with bash
[11:52] <Jucato> to be honest, I think even gnomefreak was having problems trying to make that script run
[11:52] <Jucato> xsacha: Sun Java :P
[11:52] <xsacha> script runs fine now Jucato :) just had it go in bash like cpk1 said
[11:52] <cpk1> well um ok i dont actually have frostwire installed so =P going blind
[11:52] <Mike2k6> xasacha teach me the jedi way!
[11:52] <Mike2k6> sorry for the typo
[11:52] <xsacha> [20:50]  <cpk1> kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire
[11:53] <cpk1> Mike2k6: open konsole and do kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire
[11:53] <cpk1> why change to dash?
[11:53] <cpk1> and what does da stand for?
[11:53] <is_null> Mike2k6: what do you mean ?
[11:54] <cpk1> Mike2k6: once kate is open change sh runFrost.sh to bash runFrost.sh
[11:54] <Jucato> cpk1: Debian Almquist Shell
[11:54] <Mike2k6> kate opens up
[11:54] <xsacha> had to be ahead of bash and they couldnt use cash ;)
[11:54] <Jucato> cpk1: DASH is a Linux port of ash, which is a BSD shell
[11:54] <Jucato> xsacha: well, there's csh already :)
[11:55] <xsacha> yeah c shell, no a in it though
[11:55] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: is Kubuntu rocking your boat?
[11:55] <Jucato> well the "a" stands for Almquist
[11:55] <Jucato> while in BASH it's Bourne Again Shell ...
[11:55] <Mike2k6> living: at the moment im fighting with frostwire, but its running faster than the live CD lol
[11:56] <Mike2k6> ok im still having problems with frostwire
[11:56] <cpk1> Mike2k6: did you change what I said?
[11:56] <Mike2k6> yeah, it opened up a kate window
[11:56] <Mike2k6> i saw where it said sh frostwire.sh or w/e
[11:56] <Mike2k6> changed the sh to bash
[11:56] <Mike2k6> file>save
[11:56] <xsacha> good, now you can exit out
[11:56] <xsacha> now you need java
[11:57] <Mike2k6> ok, lets get java!
[11:57] <cpk1> hah frostwire uses java?
[11:57] <Mike2k6> with two vanilla creamers pls
[11:57] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: have you used Adept yet?
[11:57] <Mike2k6> living: negetive, sir!
[11:57] <Mike2k6> lol
[11:57] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: lol, that 's your ferrari
[11:57] <cpk1> frostwire isnt in the repos
[11:57] <xsacha> yes cpk1 lol
[11:57] <cpk1> but java is
[11:58] <Mike2k6> repo? i own my car thank you.
[11:58] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: open adept Applications>System
[11:58] <cpk1> you need to install sun-java5-jre
[11:58] <livingdaylight> !repos
[11:58] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:58] <davidenik> hi guys
[11:58] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: repo=repositories, where all the goodies are
[11:58] <Jucato> lol not reposession :)
[11:58] <Mike2k6> opening adept manager
[11:58] <Mike2k6> ahh lol
[11:58] <davidenik> do you know some programs like "Frontpage" for Website builiding???
[11:59] <cpk1> Mike2k6: you can use adept (puny little civic) or you can use apt-get (the real deal ferrari) =D
[11:59] <Mike2k6> ok adept did the same thing frostwire did,.
[11:59] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: install synaptic
[11:59] <xsacha> lol
[11:59] <xsacha> that's a bit drastic
[11:59] <cpk1> just use apt-get
[11:59] <livingdaylight> cpk1: lol, but adept /synaptic lets you search for stuff easier
[11:59] <Mike2k6> adept wont open
[11:59] <Jucato> davidenik: Quanta Plus or Nvu
[11:59] <Mike2k6> adepts being gay, lets go with apt!
[11:59] <cpk1> livingdaylight: apt-cache search is hard?
[11:59] <Mike2k6> the real deal!
[12:00] <xsacha> adept types the apt-get for you:)
[12:00] <Mike2k6> cpk how do i step into the driver seat of apt?
[12:00] <cpk1> Mike2k6: open up a konsole
[12:00] <davidenik> Jucato: but it's simple like Frontpage?
[12:00] <Mike2k6> ok
[12:00] <davidenik> because i don't know too much about html
[12:00] <Jucato> davidenik: yeah I think so
[12:00] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[12:00] <Mike2k6> davidenik: html comes with practice
[12:01] <livingdaylight> cpk1: true, apt-cache is easy when you know. The seach tab in synaptic is easier for those who don't :p
[12:01] <xsacha> i dont think he wants the plugin... sun-java5-jre
[12:01] <Mike2k6> E; couldnt find
[12:01] <cpk1> Mike2k6: first you need to get a better engine, so kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list (after apt-get install sun-java5-plugin doesnt work)
[12:01] <livingdaylight> xsacha: the plugin will install the others
[12:01] <xsacha> oh ok
[12:01] <MistaED> mike2k6: from my experience, adept is more headaches than anything, i recommend synaptic even though it's a gnome/gtk app, some probably don't agree with me though
[12:01] <Jaeke555> Umm, Can anyone help me with some WLAN issues with my kubuntu...?
[12:02] <Mike2k6> ok alot of people are talking to me at once, i need some calirty.
[12:02] <Mike2k6> clarity*
[12:02] <MistaED> haha, sorry
[12:02] <cpk1> Mike2k6: do what I said ^^
[12:02] <Mike2k6> i got 2x adept rules and 3x adept sucks
[12:02] <Mike2k6> lol
[12:02] <livingdaylight> MistaED: that is why the first thing i recommended Mike2k6 is to install synaptic
[12:02] <xsacha> lol
[12:02] <MistaED> :)
[12:02] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: did you do what i said ?
[12:02] <xsacha> of course not
[12:02] <cpk1> Mike2k6: tell me when kate opens up sources.list
[12:03] <Mike2k6> [05:02]  <cpk1> Mike2k6: do what I said ^^
[12:03] <Mike2k6> [05:02]  <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: did you do what i said ?
[12:03] <xsacha> lol
[12:03] <Mike2k6> jesus
[12:03] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: sudo apt-get installsun-java5-plugin
[12:03] <xsacha> livingdaylight: it's not in default repositories
[12:03] <Mike2k6> i did what cpk1 said >.<;
[12:03] <livingdaylight> hehe
[12:03] <Mike2k6> kate opened up again
[12:03] <cpk1> livingdaylight: this is a virgin install (no universe or multiverse)
[12:03] <livingdaylight> what did cpk1say?
[12:03] <Mike2k6> i still love you though living
[12:03] <livingdaylight> ahhh....
[12:03] <Mike2k6> he said to do some kedsu with kate stuff
[12:04] <cpk1> Mike2k6: delete the # from the lines with multiverse and universe in them
[12:04] <Mike2k6> darn you, its alot of work but this is a learning experience
[12:04] <livingdaylight> cpk1: really, why the repos dont just come installed at least universe and multiverse. Its the first thing everyone has to sort out after a Fresh install
[12:04] <Kiongku> mwahahahahha
[12:05] <xsacha> there's a gui way for all of this.. but a lot of are so used to these console method
[12:05] <cpk1> livingdaylight: because they have things like mp3 libs, and his adept didnt work so we are using kate =)
[12:05] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: once youget your repos sorted out you wont need to touch it again. You'll have over 20,000 packages at your finger tips
[12:05] <Kiongku> its quite easy after a while.. sounds hard only at first
[12:05] <xsacha> adept doesnt work occasionly, if you run it again it'll work :)
[12:05] <Mike2k6> :cpk : ok there was two lines, i read the instructions like a real man would.
[12:06] <xsacha> it's like every second time it doesnt run or something, i just checked ps and i had 3 adept_manager's running lol
[12:06] <Mike2k6> yeah i read a little bit on that ps -aux |more
[12:06] <Mike2k6> and kill 6666!
[12:06] <Mike2k6> kill them all muhahaha
[12:06] <Mike2k6> anyways...
[12:06] <cpk1> Mike2k6: you deleted the # from the lines that had universe and multiverse right?
[12:07] <Mike2k6> and multiverse?!?
[12:07] <Mike2k6> not multiverse but i suppose i can retype my stuff
[12:07] <sorush20> hello
[12:07] <sorush20> hi
[12:07] <sorush20> what is the hell I sgoing
[12:07] <sorush20> salam..
[12:07] <cpk1> might as well do multiverse, they are usually on the same line
[12:07] <cpk1> actually you need multiverse for java
[12:07] <duane> calc dmix
[12:07] <cpk1> so yes you need to uncomment multiverse
[12:07] <livingdaylight> sorush20: hi
[12:07] <xsacha> multiverse is down the bottom Mike2k6
[12:08] <xsacha> above security
[12:08] <livingdaylight> sorush20: what is going on is this is a #kubuntu channel
[12:08] <livingdaylight> sorush20: but it is not a mosque... :)
[12:08] <sorush20> my cdroms is not auto mounting what do I do and what do I need to install ?
[12:08] <livingdaylight> sorush20: pray to Allah..
[12:08] <Mike2k6> ok yes
[12:09] <Mike2k6> cpk1 we are on the same page, it was about 4 lines in total or so
[12:09] <Mike2k6> you can tell the diff by the single # or double ##
[12:09] <MidMark> hi
[12:09] <Mike2k6> living: dear allah, if your out there, somewhere.
[12:09] <cpk1> Mike2k6: huh? you were deleting #'s not adding them
[12:09] <MidMark> if I want to install a package and all its dependecies
[12:09] <MidMark> what I have to add to apt-get?
[12:10] <Mike2k6> cpk1 i know, im just telling you how i identified the lines that needed the #'s deleted
[12:10] <Mike2k6> lines with # deb abunchashithere
[12:10] <livingdaylight> MidMark: you don't add anyting to apt-get. Apt-get installs and sorts out dependency issues
[12:10] <cpk1> # and ## will both be commented out
[12:11] <MidMark> livingdaylight: a friend of mine upgraded from dapper
[12:11] <cpk1> Mike2k6: after you uncomment the lines save and close kate
[12:11] <Mike2k6> i know, ive taken programming classes before.
[12:11] <MidMark> and kubuntu-desktop wasn't updated
[12:11] <Mike2k6> done
[12:11] <Mike2k6> its just like <!-- in html
[12:11] <cpk1> Mike2k6: sudo apt-get update
[12:11] <MidMark> so I've said to do: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <cpk1> Mike2k6: once that is done then sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[12:12] <xsacha> i'd just like to add that mike's adept_manager that failed to launch is most likely still running..
[12:12] <MidMark> but apt-get said that hwdb-client-kde and language-selector-qt aren't installed
[12:12] <cpk1> hehe i just realized that =)
[12:12] <cpk1> so we will see
[12:12] <sorush20> what do I do to auto mount?
[12:12] <xsacha> sorush20: in your /etc/fstab file you must add the cdrom
[12:12] <xsacha> or if it's on noauto, change it to auto
[12:13] <Mike2k6> e: package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[12:13] <sorush20> shouldn't that be added already xsacha
[12:13] <xsacha> not necessarily
[12:13] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: at some point check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:13] <cpk1> well no lock error
[12:13] <Mike2k6> mike@Mikes-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[12:13] <Mike2k6> Reading package lists... Done
[12:13] <Mike2k6> Building dependency tree
[12:13] <Mike2k6> Reading state information... Done
[12:13] <cpk1> Mike2k6: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin the output
[12:13] <livingdaylight> !paste
[12:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:16] <Mike2k6> cpk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29516/
[12:17] <xsacha> hmm do the spaces affect it?
[12:17] <Mike2k6> mufasa!
[12:17] <cpk1> oh they dont give you a multiverse repo
[12:17] <xsacha> yes multiverse is there cpk1
[12:17] <Jucato> of course not. it's not added by default
[12:17] <Mike2k6> i knew i should of went with drapper :-\
[12:17] <xsacha> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:17] <Jucato> hehe
[12:17] <xsacha> that's his line
[12:17] <Jucato> oh there it is
[12:18] <cpk1> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe multiverse
[12:18] <cpk1> err isnt that for backports?
[12:18] <Mike2k6> >.<;
[12:18] <Jucato> that's the wrong multiverse xsacha
[12:18] <xsacha> :P
[12:18] <sorush20> there is nothing wrong with my media disk .... but when I do sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /media/cdrom1 I keep getting the message that no media found..
[12:18] <sorush20> anyhelp
[12:18] <cpk1> Mike2k6: add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe multiverse to your sources.list
[12:19] <cpk1> Mike2k6: you would have to do this on dapper as well
[12:19] <Mike2k6> cpk1 how do i do that?
[12:19] <Mike2k6> kdesu kate
[12:19] <Mike2k6> something
[12:19] <xsacha> open up the file in kate again and paste that line in
[12:19] <xsacha> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <Mike2k6> any pref place to add it?
[12:20] <cpk1> wherever you want
[12:20] <Mike2k6> you got my pastebin, just tell me after line 12 or something
[12:20] <Mike2k6> well ill put it with the others for quick ref
[12:20] <cpk1> ok how about line<PHONE_NUMBER>?
[12:20] <koriel> I installed kubuntu 6.10 from scratch but I kept my home directory from previous 6.06 with all configurations and profiles but now for example if I open gimp, the colors are really funny, and to all other programs..any idea?
[12:20] <cpk1> that sounds like a nice spot =)
[12:21] <Mike2k6> cpk1: yeah, sure
[12:21] <cpk1> i mean >=)
[12:21] <Mike2k6> ok added and saved.
[12:21] <Mike2k6> now what
[12:21] <cpk1> sudo apt-get update
[12:21] <cpk1> no error? (please)
[12:22] <Mike2k6> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:22] <livingdaylight> cpk1: check http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy it tell one how to wget the pgp key as well
[12:22] <cpk1> i like
[12:22] <cpk1> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[12:22] <cpk1> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[12:22] <cpk1> better =P
[12:22] <Mike2k6> so anyways, now what?
[12:22] <xsacha> above that error Mike, do you have a 404 error/
[12:23] <Mike2k6> apt-get install sun-java5-jre?
[12:23] <cpk1> Mike2k6: no, you need the pgp key i think
[12:23] <Mike2k6> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com universe/multiverse Packages
[12:23] <Mike2k6>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:23] <xsacha> yes
[12:23] <sorush20> should I install any automaount tools?
[12:24] <livingdaylight> its so easy
[12:24] <cpk1> Mike2k6:  gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5
[12:24] <Mike2k6> yeah, for you!
[12:24] <xsacha> automount tools? lol, just edit your fstab sorush20
[12:24] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: like i told you. www.ubuntuguide.org follow how to add extra repositories and do the wget part of it too to get the key
[12:24] <Mike2k6> gpg: conflicting commands]
[12:25] <sorush20> I can edit the fstab in system settings right?
[12:25] <sorush20> xsacha:
[12:25] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[12:25] <sorush20> the disk and file systems
[12:25] <xsacha> the GUI? yes
[12:25] <cpk1> did they change it for edgy?
[12:25] <xsacha> yeah
[12:25] <Mike2k6> nvm wasnt uasing double spaces
[12:25] <Mike2k6> double hyphens or w/e
[12:26] <sorush20> xsacha: it is already there my device and mount point..
[12:26] <Mike2k6> gpgkeys: key 437D0585 not found on keyser
[12:26] <sorush20> but it is set to desiabled.. and not enabled..
[12:26] <Mike2k6> oh B5
[12:26] <Mike2k6> lord help me
[12:26] <xsacha> sorush20: is it auto or noauto?
[12:26] <xsacha> well enable it lol
[12:26] <cpk1> Mike2k6: and then gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:27] <Mike2k6> its requesting key
[12:27] <sorush20> xsacha: its auto..
[12:27] <xsacha> enable it
[12:28] <livingdaylight> using Audacity to convert some mp3's to OGG. Can i not do like a whole album at once? or is it file by file?
[12:28] <Mike2k6> ok cpk1
[12:28] <Mike2k6> it said "OK"
[12:28] <Mike2k6> lol
[12:28] <cpk1> Mike2k6: you do the second command?
[12:28] <Mike2k6> chya
[12:29] <Mike2k6> well unless you mean do sudo apt-key add - seperately
[12:29] <cpk1> Mike2k6: alright now do sudo apt-get update
[12:29] <Mike2k6> but i thought the | told the console to do that
[12:29] <cpk1> Mike2k6: yeah
[12:29] <xsacha> no errors when you did it?
[12:29] <Mike2k6> negetory
[12:29] <Kiongku> what was a good image editor in linux?
[12:29] <Mike2k6> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com universe/multiverse Packages
[12:29] <Mike2k6>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:30] <Mike2k6> jesus
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> Kiongku, gimp OR krita.
[12:30] <Kiongku> Mike2k6: no worry once everything is sorted out it will be like a charm
[12:31] <Mike2k6> Kiongku: reminds me of looking at a page in html for the first time
[12:31] <sorush20> I keep getting mount error no media found.. but I know if the same driver since I checked it with eject /dev/hda
[12:31] <cpk1> Mike2k6: ignore it and try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[12:31] <davidenik> another question to this great community
[12:32] <davidenik> what's a good "ftp" program to send web pages?
[12:32] <davidenik> like "wsftp"
[12:32] <sorush20> imbrandon: do you remember me having a problem with amarok and you help me compile it from scratch.. and that didn't work...
[12:32] <livingdaylight> Kiongku: gimp?
[12:32] <Mike2k6> cpk1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29518/
[12:32] <livingdaylight> Kiongku: F-spot? not sure what you mean
[12:33] <sorush20> imbrandon: I have upgraded to edgy  now and I'm getting the same problem , xine can not initialise audio driver..
[12:33] <cpk1> livingdaylight: well I havent seen it so i dunno how simple it is =\
[12:34] <cpk1> and this should be easy anyways
[12:34] <Mike2k6> cpk did ya get my pastebin?
[12:34] <livingdaylight> cpk1: lol, it doesn't look like its been easy. If you've not seen http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy you should take a look. Its what i did, and everything works.  You were asked which format.
[12:42] <xsacha> i'd just like to mention: after java is installed, frostwire works perfectly :D
[12:42] <MidMark> grothesk: it works for me
[12:42] <grothesk> Not here.
[12:43] <xsacha> i'd also like to mention that you dont actually need multiverse to install java as you dont need the plugin
[12:43] <grothesk> I'm missing the menu entry for that.
[12:43] <MidMark> grothesk: try deleting your profile
[12:43] <xsacha> just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre and you'll be in frostwire in no time
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> what are repos' for the new amarok through the adept thingo-ma-jiggo ?
[12:43] <MidMark> see kubuntu.org
[12:44] <xsacha> Mike2k6 ?
[12:45] <Mike2k6> xasacha sorry was reading link cpk1 sent me awhile back
[12:45] <cpk1> Mike2k6: here are *crystal* clear instructions (i hope) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29520/
[12:45] <Mike2k6> told me to follow directions, im doing that
[12:45] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: After a FRESH install adding extra repositories is the FIRST thing i reccommend doing. It gives the Ferrari its engine and wheels. Once that is done, which is only a matter of copying and pasting from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[12:45] <Mike2k6> cpk1, hold on i may have got it
[12:45] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: you're done.
[12:45] <xsacha> Mike2k6:  you dont even need multiverse, all you needed to do from the start is install sun-java5-jre (that comes in default packages)
[12:45] <_slacker_> or anyone know why libbluetooth depends on kubuntu-desktop??? what's this???? i wanna try to recompile my own bluez-libs but it seems to be impossible
[12:46] <xsacha> and frostwire runs fine from them -- this is what i did
[12:46] <cpk1> !info sun-java5-jre
[12:46] <Mike2k6> hold on
[12:46] <Mike2k6> im making progress
[12:46] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[12:46] <Bubba_Gump> new amarok updating? any sure-fire way to a really good muzac
[12:46] <xsacha> well i have it without multiverse
[12:46] <cpk1> looks to me like its in multiverse
[12:46] <Mike2k6> cpk1, i havent read your pastebin yet, because the previous link you sent me was clear enuf once i pieced it together, hold on its still doin stuff
[12:46] <Mike2k6> its downloading sun
[12:47] <curly> Is it worth upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 ?
[12:47] <Mike2k6> ok some kind of screen came up talking bout sun config
[12:48] <Mike2k6> has <ok> on there
[12:48] <xsacha> ok press TAB
[12:48] <xsacha> and then enter
[12:48] <cpk1> Mike2k6: yeah its a license agreement
[12:48] <Bubba_Gump> curly: depends on what you want
[12:48] <Mike2k6> xsacha: thanks, thats what i was lookin for
[12:48] <Mike2k6> ef yes!
[12:48] <Mike2k6> hallelujah!
[12:48] <xsacha> :)
[12:48] <Bubba_Gump> i'd say definately update - edgy is a great os
[12:49] <xsacha> btw i am 100% positive, didnt need multiverse -- worked from a fresh sources.list
[12:49] <curly> Thanks :)
[12:49] <xsacha> i dont know about plugin though
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> i'd update through live cd though
[12:49] <cpk1> xsacha: he tried it without sources though
[12:49] <xsacha> no he tried plugin..
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> repos' update knackered me up good and proper like
[12:49] <xsacha> plugin isnt there for me either
[12:49] <Mike2k6> thanks to all my new friends cpk1, xsacha, living, juc and everyone else.
[12:50] <Kiongku> lol looks like Mik is leaving
[12:50] <cpk1> apt-cache policy tells me its in multiverse
[12:50] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: remember after living press 'tab' ;)
[12:51] <Mike2k6> yes livingdaylight :-p
[12:51] <cpk1> i do it after "liv" =)
[12:51] <livingdaylight> Mike2k6: so, all that for frostwire?
[12:51] <xsacha> it says: 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages for me too, but this is with default sources.list -- so that multiverse must be same one
[12:51] <Jaeke555> Can someone help me with a WLAN issue?
[12:51] <livingdaylight> cpk1: indeed :)
[12:51] <Mike2k6> starting connections :\ how lame
[12:51] <cpk1> Mike2k6: actually you arent done yet =P
[12:52] <xsacha> what's left?
[12:52] <Mike2k6> oh lord
[12:52] <Mike2k6> :-\
[12:52] <cpk1> he needs to set java as default if it isnt
[12:52] <xsacha> no..
[12:52] <cpk1> Mike2k6: update-java-alternatives -l will tell you if sun java is default or not
[12:52] <xsacha> frostwire just *works* then :)
[12:52] <Mike2k6> it wont connect :-(
[12:53] <Mike2k6> says has detected a firewall
[12:53] <Mike2k6> do i need to set permissions for frostwire?
[12:53] <Mike2k6> like the ability to connect maybe?
[12:54] <Mike2k6> java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[12:55] <cpk1> Mike2k6: that was the first listed?
[12:55] <Mike2k6> only listed
[12:55] <cpk1> well good =)
[12:55] <Mike2k6> frost wire wont connect
[12:55] <Mike2k6> i remember like an hour back someone said something about chmoding frostwire
[12:55] <Mike2k6> -a and -x maybe?
[12:56] <MidMark> grothesk: tried?
[12:56] <xsacha> Mike2k6: what does it show for # of shared files?
[12:56] <xsacha> to the right of firewall and starting connection
[12:56] <Mike2k6> 0 :-p, i dont share
[12:56] <xsacha> k
[12:56] <Mike2k6> or go to jail
[12:57] <Mike2k6> :-p
[12:57] <xsacha> it's just that by default it seems to like to add your ~ to sharing as well as what you choose :S
[12:57] <Mike2k6> i took away the shared folders
[12:57] <xsacha> k
[12:57] <Mike2k6> it wont connect tho.
[12:58] <cpk1> Mike2k6: you shouldnt need to chmod the .sh since you seem to already be running it =) +x adds execute priv
[12:58] <Mike2k6> its been starting connection since god made the earth.
[12:58] <cpk1> which you can obviously do already
[12:58] <Mike2k6> nod
[12:59] <Mike2k6> why wont it connect :-(
[01:00] <cpk1> well I know nothing about frostwire so I have no clue
[01:00] <cpk1> but hey it runs now!
[01:00] <Mike2k6> yeah wohoo!
[01:00] <Mike2k6> i got no where!
[01:00] <Mike2k6> lol
[01:00] <cpk1> and you should hopefully know how to install via apt-get now
[01:00] <Mike2k6> well i got java
[01:00] <Mike2k6> yeah sudo apt-get install apphere
[01:00] <cpk1> Mike2k6: and sudo apt-get upgrade will update any apps that can be
[01:01] <Mike2k6> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:01] <cpk1> and apt-cache search findthisterm searches from the list of what you can download
[01:01] <Cyron> Use aptitude, not apt-get :)
[01:02] <xsacha> oh hey i connected mike!!
[01:02] <brainless> hmm ... is it correct that gkrellm-x86info and gkrellmapcupsd have the same description in the adept package manager? ("gkrellm plugin displaying the current processor speed")
[01:02] <Mike2k6> xsacha: ya?
[01:02] <cpk1> Mike2k6: also you are going to want mp3 support too probably right?
[01:02] <xsacha> Mike2k6: i changed port in tools->options->advanced->firewall config to one of my open ports.. and then i clicked disconnect and then connect (in file)
[01:03] <xsacha> Excellent Condition! :)
[01:03] <Mike2k6> cpk1: well yeah lol
[01:03] <Mike2k6> xsacha: how do i know which of my ports are open?
[01:03] <xsacha> well i opened mine in router..
[01:03] <Mike2k6> nvm it conneceted
[01:03] <xsacha> for some reason their UPnP didnt seem to work
[01:03] <Mike2k6> lol
[01:04] <Mike2k6> i went into setings like you did
[01:04] <Mike2k6> and just updated it
[01:04] <xsacha> :P
[01:04] <cpk1> Mike2k6: so apt-get install libxine-extracodecs (or aptitude install libxine-extracodecs)
[01:05] <cpk1> for mp3 support among other things
[01:05] <xsacha> trying to subtly push that aptitude in there ;)
[01:05] <ketsugi> teehee
[01:05] <ketsugi> Is aptitude still better than apt-get?
[01:05] <ketsugi> I notice Edgy's apt-get improved a bit
[01:05] <xsacha> no, worse -- always will be worse because it takes longer to type than apt-get
[01:06] <ketsugi> That is true
[01:06] <cpk1> actually i think aptitude is faster
[01:06] <ketsugi> But I can always easily make an alias for either
[01:06] <cpk1> apti vs apt-g
[01:06] <xsacha> :P
[01:06] <xsacha> a vs a
[01:06] <Mike2k6> ok
[01:06] <ketsugi> I was just wondering if apt-get, with its new autoremove stuff, is still lousy at removing orphaned packages
[01:07] <Mike2k6> lol two hours later i get frostbite working
[01:07] <Mike2k6> :-p
[01:07] <Mike2k6> or frostwire rather
[01:07] <cpk1> i still use apt-get out of force of habit but have been making an effort to use aptitude
[01:07] <ketsugi> Yeah same here
[01:07] <ketsugi> I'm just wondering if I still should do that, under Edgy
[01:08] <cpk1> the only difference is aptitude "remembers" what it does or something right?
[01:08] <ketsugi> Yeah I think so
[01:08] <ketsugi> but apt-get now has autoremove
[01:08] <ketsugi> so I'm wondering if aptitude is still necessary, and what are the exact benefits of using aptitude over the current version of apt-get
[01:09] <Mike2k6> so anyways, how do i install and use wine?
[01:09] <xsacha> hmm is there a way to make it so that my laptop disables scaling processor (always at 100%) whenever it gets power from wall, and then back to scaling whenever battery is being used again?
[01:09] <cpk1> go to the wine website and use their repo
[01:09] <cpk1> Mike2k6: actually looks like edgy has an up to date package
[01:10] <cpk1> so you dont need the winehq package
[01:10] <Mike2k6> oh?
[01:10] <ketsugi> sudo aptitude install wine
[01:10] <Mike2k6> frostwire is buggy, stupid java programs lol
[01:10] <ketsugi> I'm using the Edgy package to run uTorrent
[01:10] <xsacha> 0.9.22 is in repo
[01:10] <Werdna> hey, I'm trying to install ndiswrapper from source, and it wants files in /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/build -- I have the linux-headers and linux-source packages installed. What do I need?
[01:10] <cpk1> .22 if *fairly* new =P
[01:11] <xsacha> .24 is latest
[01:11] <cpk1> the winehq repo just pushed .24 at me
[01:12] <xsacha> gonna go play a game with wine, brb
[01:12] <Mike2k6> ketsugi: ok installed wine via aptitude
[01:12] <cpk1> so run winecfg
[01:13] <ketsugi> I didn't even run winecfg haha
[01:13] <cpk1> that was a small one
[01:13] <ketsugi> I just immediately ran uTorrent
[01:13] <xsacha> :P
[01:13] <cpk1> i had to because i was using my cdrom with it
[01:13] <Mike2k6> so u can just open an exe now?
[01:13] <Mike2k6> or what?
[01:13] <xsacha> Mike2k6: winecfg
[01:14] <xsacha> run it?
[01:14] <cpk1> Mike2k6: what are you trying to install?
[01:14] <Mike2k6> type run winewfg?
[01:14] <xsacha> no run
[01:14] <Mike2k6> cpk1 wine
[01:14] <cpk1> Mike2k6: you already installed wine
[01:14] <xsacha> alt+f2 and then winecfg
[01:18] <Mike2k6> ok frostwire is buggin
[01:18] <Mike2k6> it wotn close
[01:18] <Mike2k6> i did sudo ps -aux |more
[01:18] <Mike2k6> cant find it on the list
[01:18] <xsacha> just: sudo killall frostwire
[01:18] <cpk1> why use |more?
[01:18] <ketsugi> might be frostwire.exe or something like that
[01:18] <cpk1> just do ps aux
[01:18] <Mike2k6> cause thats what i read on the tutorial
[01:18] <xsacha> naah it's native ketsugi
[01:19] <ketsugi> ahh
[01:19] <cpk1> and killing by pid is alot easier
[01:19] <xsacha> Mike2k6: ps -aux | grep frostwire
[01:19] <cpk1> as in you actually know that you are killing the right thing
[01:19] <cpk1> its java
[01:19] <cpk1> so you probably need to kill java
[01:19] <xsacha> oh
[01:19] <Mike2k6> hrm
[01:20] <Mike2k6> so sudo killall java
[01:20] <xsacha> well check ps first
[01:20] <xsacha> grep for the name
[01:20] <chavo> are you running it with wine?
[01:20] <xsacha> no
[01:20] <chavo> ok
[01:20] <xsacha> i see: xsacha    2891  0.0  0.3   7476  1664 ?        S    22:20   0:00 /bin/bash /usr/bin/frostwire
[01:21] <xsacha> also: xsacha    2927 45.7 20.8<PHONE_NUMBER>32 ?       Sl   22:20   0:12 java -jar FrostWire.jar
[01:21] <Mike2k6> mike      7576  0.0  0.1   4144  1600 ?        S    05:51   0:00 bash runFrost.s
[01:22] <cpk1> Mike2k6: so just do kill 7576
[01:22] <cpk1> save -9 for the naughty apps
[01:23] <Mike2k6> didnt kill the app
[01:23] <Mike2k6> frostwire still runs
[01:23] <cpk1> i say kill java =P
[01:23] <Mike2k6> how?
[01:24] <xsacha> ps -aux | grep java
[01:24] <Mike2k6> found it
[01:24] <Mike2k6> frostwire.jar
[01:24] <Mike2k6> stupid hobo
[01:24] <xsacha> yes
[01:25] <sorush20> where do I install qmake from?
[01:25] <sorush20> !qmake
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <cpk1> !find qmake
[01:27] <ubotu> File qmake found in kdevelop3-data, libqt4-dev, qt3-dev-tools
[01:27] <rolando> hola
[01:27] <cpk1> there you go sorush20
[01:28] <rolando> what package im supposed to install to make my SD/mmc/... card reader work?
[01:28] <rolando> it worked before with 6.06
[01:28] <rolando> but now it wont work
[01:29] <MistaED> rolando: do usb drives work? make sure the hal packages are installed and i think pmount
[01:29] <rolando> MistaED: yes they do
[01:30] <rolando> its just this thing to read cam cards
[01:31] <MistaED> rolando: because most all card readers should just be detected as mass storage devices via usb, so it should just work
[01:31] <MistaED> odd
[01:31] <DieMyDarling> hallo
[01:31] <rolando> yes, because on windows they work just fine
[01:32] <DieMyDarling> is somebody here who can help me with an internet problem?
[01:32] <MistaED> rolando: try opening up a terminal, plug in your card thing and wait 5-10 seconds, then try the command: dmesg
[01:33] <MistaED> see what the kernel says about the drive
[01:33] <rolando> ok
[01:33] <rolando> ill try
[01:34] <Mike2k6> cd burning works
[01:35] <rolando> tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 3
[01:36] <rolando> brb
[01:40] <veronika> i did a fresh install of kubuntu edgy
[01:40] <veronika> and now i cannot start graphical programs with sudo anymore
[01:40] <veronika> what could be the problem here?
[01:41] <chavo> veronika, use kdesu for graphical programs
[01:42] <mf_debian> can anyone tell me how to turn off the bouncy icon notification thing you get when you open an app
[01:42] <veronika> now that just hangs
[01:44] <MidMark> someone else with bug -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68880
[01:46] <mf_debian> MidMark: did you do an "apt-get install ubuntu-minimal" ?
[01:48] <MidMark> mf_debian: I'll check now
[01:48] <mf_debian> MidMark: cause i think that fixed the issue for me, without that it doesnt upgrade sysvinit to upstart
[01:49] <mf_debian> MidMark: therefore i think the runlevels werent executing correctly
[01:49] <MidMark> upstart is the new init package?
[01:50] <mf_debian> correct
[01:50] <MidMark> ok thanx for the hint, now I'll check this
[01:51] <mf_debian> if you could confirm it, i'll edit the bts
[01:51] <MidMark> the problem is not my pc, so I've to wait for response :)
[01:51] <MidMark> is my brother notebook
[01:51] <mf_debian> ah
[01:51] <MidMark> I've done personally the upgrade from dapper
[01:52] <MidMark> and checked only to have kubuntu-desktop upgraded
[01:52] <MidMark> not ubuntu-minimal
[01:52] <mf_debian> maybe you can help me, can you tell me how to turn off the bouncy icon notification thing you get when you open an app
[01:52] <MidMark> yes wait
[01:54] <mf_debian> MidMark: yeah i would have never thought about ubuntu-minimal, but im on the announce mailing list, and the latest email, which is different than what was said for the knot releases
[01:54] <Hobbsee> ubuntu-minimal is not a dep of kubuntu-desktop, i'm still not sure why
[01:54] <mf_debian> says to do a dist-upgrade and sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[01:55] <MidMark> also kubuntu-desktop still get uninstalled when upgrade
[01:55] <vge> hi, i need to run php4 and php5 version in the same apache setup (or two apaches) but both file extentions have to be .php?
[01:55] <MidMark> this is a shame
[01:55] <mf_debian> Hobbsee: yes odd I agree, but as i said, sysvinit didnt get swapped for upstart until i install ubuntu-minimal
[01:55] <Hobbsee> mf_debian: indeed.
[01:57] <mf_debian> vge: no you can have .php5 and .php4, its an apache setting
[01:57] <Dannilion> ARG!!! Why won't it work!
[01:58] <mf_debian> its on  welfare already?
[01:58] <Dannilion> I want my wireless card to automatically connect to my router on startup. No matter how I do it, I still have to manually set the ESSID
[02:00] <siefkencp> cant you embed it in the conf?
[02:00] <siefkencp> morning all
[02:01] <siefkencp> vge: have you ever compiled php from scratch?
[02:01] <vge> siefkencp: i could if i needed to
[02:01] <Dannilion> It's already in /etc/network/interfaces- I don't know where else to put it
[02:01] <vge> i just need to basically make seperate working directorys for em?
[02:02] <mf_debian> Dannilion:  what does it say
[02:02] <siefkencp> very well... I would suggest doing the package install of PHP 5 and then do a usr/local/php4 install with a /etc/php4/php.ini file
[02:02] <siefkencp> then set up apache to recognize .php4 to run with /usr/local/php4/php
[02:02] <Dannilion> at the bottom of everything else (ip numbers and stuff, which works) it says wireless-essid DJS
[02:03] <vge> but i want both to be runned with .php?
[02:03] <siefkencp> ,,,, hmm
[02:03] <siefkencp> only way to do that -- that I know of is with cgi
[02:03] <rolando> is there a way to install beryl without so much editing files?
[02:04] <vge> im atm running that php5 are runned with cgi and with .php5 and php4 as .php
[02:04] <siefkencp> so you put you #!/usr/local/php or #!/usr/local/php4 at the begining of your file and disable php as an extention of apache
[02:04] <mf_debian> vge: siefkencp is right,, only one can be run as an apache module, afaik
[02:04] <chavo> rolando, just one file to edit
[02:05] <vge> but i can install two apaches and point them to different config to different home folder?
[02:05] <siefkencp> its going to be slower but it will work
[02:05] <Mike2k6> anyone know a good alarm clock app for kubuntu?
[02:05] <siefkencp> you could but you would be binding them to different addresses...
[02:05] <vge> so i have red
[02:06] <vge> hmm
[02:06] <rolando> chavo: depends what guide you read
[02:06] <vge> ic what i can come up to
[02:06] <chavo> rolando, assuming you have 3d acceleration already
[02:06] <siefkencp> if you were running 2 completely separate instances you could run both versions and use include
[02:07] <siefkencp> and devise some sort of db to maintain state information and such
[02:07] <vge> i think it's just better to move to php5 compleately :)
[02:07] <siefkencp> def... and you get all the OO support
[02:08] <siefkencp> you'd be surprised most things dont break
[02:08] <vge> well, some broke, thats why i was looking for some solution
[02:09] <vge> mainly becouse of old bad coding
[02:09] <siefkencp> hmm what did -- i made the jump to php5 already
[02:09] <rolando> chavo what was the command to check this?
[02:09] <rolando> i should have by default when installing 6.10 and ati card
[02:09] <siefkencp> the thing with php5 is that all of the settings are slightly different..