[00:40] <chilts> and Scala
[00:41] <ibeardslee> a bit of visual basic
[18:08] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:11] <olly> morning
[19:36] <ajmitch> morning
[19:45] <hads> morning
[21:05] <chilts_bot> morning
[21:33] <mwhudson> morning


[04:16] <en1gma> you guys. since ubuntu 9 i been wanting ubuntu to be like this. GREAT JOB!
[04:16] <en1gma> simply amazing
[04:19] <en1gma> kept the same ui to the installer but loved the installer anyhow. just theme it so it looks fresher like the desktop
[04:20] <en1gma> anyhow i love it all. keep up the fantastic work
[04:21] <holstein> theme the installer?
[04:22] <en1gma> maybe it is themed already. i forget since i only used it once but i thought it was the same one as 15.04
[04:23] <holstein> the 15.10 installer? you want it themed?
[04:23] <holstein> anyways, its not released yet.. so there's still time...
[04:26] <en1gma> is there a way to add a ppa to get kernel 4.2 to install through software updater? i know i can get the debs my self and install all 3 (2 headers and the kernel)
[04:27] <en1gma> need to have the 4.2 because i get a gpu hang on 4.1 and its fixed in 4.2
[04:27] <en1gma> with opencl
[07:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:21] <en1gma> when computer goes in standby and wake up at login screen the password i use for my acct does not work (as of last night) will do a update && upgrade in a sec
[13:24] <en1gma> is there an ubuntu dev channel? i also am using intel opencl sdk + gpu driver and 4.3rc3 (general and also low latency) and there is still problems with cl programs when it runs. from what i read all this was supposed to be fixed with kernels 4.2+
[13:24] <en1gma> i can provide help if needed
[13:41] <en1gma> on kernel.org they are listing kernel 4.1.3 as "stable" is that the same kernel thats in the ubuntu ppa mainline that is listed as unstable that hasnt been changed (officially) to stable?
[16:37] <SuperLag> Really interesting to install 15.10 in a VM and have it boot up and say "Welcome to your Ubuntu Phone"
[16:40] <penguin42> haha
[16:40] <Daekdroom> Did you install the Snappy ISO?
[16:40] <Daekdroom> Or Unity-Next?
[16:41] <SuperLag> Ubuntu Next
[16:41] <SuperLag> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/wily-desktop-amd64.iso


[01:44] <sk_> Hi
[01:44] <bazhang> hi
[01:45] <sk_> i need some guide.. are you free?
[01:45] <bazhang> support in #ubuntu
[01:46] <sk_> i am new to Ubuntu. May i know what is this chennel.
[01:47] <bazhang> sk_, please read the /topic
[01:48] <sk_> So where it is this '/topic'.
[01:49] <sk_> from where can i get this info
[01:49] <bazhang> Topic for #ubuntu-irc is: International Ubuntu IRC operators channel   <------ sk_
[01:49] <bazhang>  This is NOT a support channel, support in #ubuntu     <------ sk_
[01:50] <sk_> ok ok. thank bazhang
[01:50] <bazhang> sk_, You are welcome.
[01:50] <sk_> nice to meet you. bye
[01:50] <rww> type /topic, receive bacon^Wtopic
[16:40] <Pici> erUSUL: Do you have a moment?
[16:40] <bilalakhtar> Can someone please cloak me with an ubuntu member cloak? My lp id is the same as my nick
[16:40] <Pici> bilalakhtar: sure, let me take a look.
[16:41] <erUSUL> Pici: yes
[16:41] <Pici> niko: Poke.
[16:42] <niko> yep
[16:42] <Pici> niko: Could you please grant ubuntu/member/bilalakhtar to bilalakhtar here?
[16:43] <bilalakhtar> Thanks Pici and niko
[16:43] <niko> you're welcome
[16:43] <Pici> bilalakhtar: You're welcome and congrats.
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:24] <popey> ActionParsnip: a staffer will be able to help you with an ubuntu cloak
[21:24] <popey> Pici: is that right?
[21:25] <popey> https://edge.launchpad.net/~andrew-woodhead666 is ActionParsnips launchpad account and he's just become an Ubuntu Member
[21:31] <IdleOne> Pici topyli jussi
[21:32] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: be patient and soon one of them will give the ok. Congrats dude!
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> yah just chillin dude, long day today :(
[21:45] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: congrats
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> ty bro


[02:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:04] <marcoagpinto> Morning!
[07:27] <ducasse> good morning
[08:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[12:32] <oerheks> "soifmypasswordisjustabunchofwordsstickedtogetherimustbeokeandsafeontheinternet" .. dutch article about password hackers, they usually try short passwords only https://www.security.nl/posting/731137/Onderzoeker%3A+aanvallers+bruteforcen+geen+lange+wachtwoorden
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> ssh the new vnc :p
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> 25k attacks oO
[13:21] <TJ-> does that article link to the original research? I read it yesterday bit cannot find it now. The title of the researcher at Microsoft is fab "Head of Deception" or some-such!
[13:27] <oerheks> TJ-, it points to https://therecord.media/attackers-dont-bother-brute-forcing-long-passwords-microsoft-engineer-says/
[13:27] <oerheks> also, ms limits passwords to 24 characters, AFAIK
[13:27] <TJ-> yeah; I can't find the original paper/report by Bevington now I'm looking for it!
[13:27] <oerheks> and therecord points to https://www.linkedin.com/in/ross-bevington-854440152/
[13:28] <TJ-> yeah
[13:30] <oerheks> nope, i cannot find the source , i'll end up in china
[13:30] <oerheks> https://www.cnbeta.com/articles/tech/1206583.htm
[13:45] <TJ-> ahh, found it! pages 85-87 contain the detail of the therecord summary.  https://query.prod.cms.rt.microsoft.com/cms/api/am/binary/RWMFIi  (PDF) "Microsoft Digital Defence Report, October 2021"
[13:46] <TJ-> The entire report is well worth reading
[13:51] <oerheks> thanks!
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> massive paper
[13:53] <oerheks> save a tree, pdf
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> 'what we do to stay ahead of the curve' :p
[13:54] <TJ-> it's the full year report; shame the press just pick on small 'fluff' parts
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> we got it all figured out
[13:55] <TJ-> these threat intelligence reports are extremely valuable, especially from an organisation the size of Microsoft, with the sheer size of their sensor network
[13:56] <TJ-> "In Azure Active Directory we observe 50 million password attacks daily, yet only 20% of users and 30% of global admins are using strong authentications such as MFA.96 "
[13:59] <TJ-> errr, thats in the context of "...Our sign-in service sees 90 billion authentication requests per day,..."
[14:09] <daftykins> D:
[15:20] <cbreak> for that, you don't need a sensor network
[15:20] <cbreak> you only need to analyze your log files
[15:20] <cbreak> (or force 2FA and be done with it :D)
[15:32] <TJ-> the sensor network is honeypots
[15:55] <TJ-> illuminating critique of flatpack/snap/appimage/etc  - shocking the waste of resources  https://ludocode.com/blog/flatpak-is-not-the-future
[16:14] <oerheks> TJ-, somehow it is true, still convenient to have all dependencies installed
[16:15] <JanC> except when you run out of disk space (which happens easily)
[16:16] <TJ-> "Flatpak and Snap apologists claim that some security is better than nothing. This is not true. From a purely technical perspective, for apps with filesystem access the security is exactly equal to nothing. In reality it’s actually worse than nothing because it leads people to place more trust than they should in random apps they find on the internet."
[16:16] <JanC> TJ-: that's pretty good indeed, and doesn't even touch the fact that even within one system you will often have to install multiple versions of the same runtime in parallel because each app uses a different one (and the app packagers are too lazy/busy to upgrade to a new one)
[16:16] <TJ-> JanC: it does talk about that unless you mean something different to what I read at least
[16:17] <TJ-> the subsection "Sharing Runtimes"
[16:17] <JanC> they mention e.g. Fedora vs. FDO ones, but even _within_ those there are multiple versions
[16:18] <JanC> so even just sticking to one store backend/repository doesn't solve that problem
[16:18] <TJ-> indeed
[16:19] <JanC> and I bet some packagers would rather just copy the whole unmaintained runtime into their package than upgrade when a runtime gets deprecated  :P
[16:20] <TJ-> I like the example thet give of flatpack gimp and a libjpeg 0-day
[16:21] <JanC> I'm not that far yet, but obviously the security issue has been pointed out from before those stores were officially launched...
[16:22] <JanC> I mean, I'm sure there are some packagers doing their work properly
[16:22] <JanC> but others don't, or packages are just left behind abandoned
[16:23] <TJ-> I call it "throwing code over the wall"
[16:24] <TJ-> The wholesale Fedora flatpak conversion without namespacing properly is awful!!
[16:25] <JanC> now, if packages were built with all dependencies pulled in from a maintained repository and automatically rebuilt if necessary, that could maybe help, but obviously that's not happening...
[16:26] <JanC> (and it begs the question why not use existing package managers to do the whole thing...)
[16:31] <JanC> you can implement "multiple runtimes" and "system access restrictions for apps" in apt/rpm just as easily...
[16:32] <oerheks> spaces in names.. as weird as a nuclear bomb.
[16:37] <JanC> like, the whole "portal" idea is a good one in general
[16:39] <JanC> (although the implementation not always is)
[16:50] <JanC> and even making people pay for apps is possible with apt/rpm of course (Canonical & others already do that!)
[16:51] <TJ-> exactly; I recall when I paid via UbuntOne for MasterPDFEditor and got a login to the PPA
[16:52] <JanC> also see ESM
[16:53] <oerheks> There should be a dedicated channel for ESM support, or is there?
[16:56] <TJ-> oerheks: mind out, Kolusion is an abusive user, frequently gets banned, and DOES know the answer to the questions he asks in most cases
[16:56] <oerheks> someone made me ubuntu member, because i try to stay nice, but thanks for the warning TJ-  :-D
[16:56] <oerheks> .. i do remember him though
[16:57] <TJ-> oerheks: I warned about him about 3-4 weeks ago - we had a bad spate of him resulting in bans in #linux and #networking
[17:01] <JanC> "GUI apps built for Windows 95 still work out of the box on Windows 10" is definitely not (always) true though...
[17:02] <JanC> many Windows 95 apps break even on Windows 2k or XP (some even break on WinNT 4.x which is about from the same time...)
[17:03] <JanC> mostly because of filesystem permissions and/or hardware access
[17:04] <TJ-> I think that's more about the Win16/Win32 API/ABI still being there
[17:06] <JanC> no, many Win95 apps liked to store config/data files next to the binaries, but that's (by default) not allowed on NTFS-based systems
[17:06] <JanC> well, it works when you run as administrator
[17:06] <JanC> or mess with the file permissions
[17:07] <JanC> (which you often have to fix after upgrades)
[17:08] <JanC> but not as a regular company user in a company with a proper IT department  :)
[17:08] <JanC> or student in a school, etc.
[17:09] <JanC> there are also other compatibility issues between Windows versions
[17:09] <JanC> but in general backwards compatibility is better than on most linux distros, I suppose...
[17:10] <daftykins> i've come across some old software in my work which tried to read and write to paths that got denied since Vista, gets confusing when they're redirected elsewhere
[17:12] <JanC> any Win95 software that used hardware directly (as was most common then) would also break
[17:12] <JanC> that broke a lot of industrial/lab software
[17:13] <JanC> when upgrading to NT-based Windows which requires drivers for that
[17:13] <JanC> soem companies probably still run WinME because of that  :P


[02:46]  * hajour good night all
[04:54] <Bookman> Any ideas why my installation of Lubuntu will not boot anymore?  I type in my username, password and the screen goes white for a few seconds, then back to the login screen.  it happens no matter what desktop environment I try.
[04:54] <bioterror> good question
[04:57] <bioterror> Bookman, 10.04 or 10.10?
[04:57] <Bookman> 10.10.  Recently updated
[05:06] <Bookman> Maybe I'll ask this question tomorrow again.
[06:37] <hblount> hi. will starcraft 2 run better/faster on lubuntu w/wine or on win7?
[06:48] <bioterror> we only play xbill
[09:14] <sultan2> can you confirm this bug? http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2230
[09:14] <bioterror> takes a while to load :D
[09:16] <bioterror> I cant load that page :D
[09:18] <bioterror> I had problems with lxappearance on 64bit
[09:18] <bioterror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxappearance/+bug/690318
[09:18] <sultan2> yes, it's slow here too, that's strange
[09:19] <bioterror> nothing has happened to that bug.
[09:19] <bioterror> I wonder why I'm running arch linux on my 64bit desktop ;)
[09:19] <sultan2> at the beginning I thought that something went wring with SalixOS
[09:20] <bioterror> what's that bug, as I cant read it
[09:20] <sultan2> archlinux is also fir people who want only what they want :)
[09:20] <bioterror> something about lxappearance
[09:20] <sultan2> yes
[09:20] <sultan2> Segmentation fault
[09:21] <bioterror> when doing what
[09:22] <sultan2> when doing something with ~/.gtkrc-2.0.mine
[09:24] <bioterror> my lxappearance crashed when I tried to change icon themes :D
[09:24] <bioterror> my desktop was totally ugly and incomplete without working icons
[09:24] <sultan2> then edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 manually
[11:14] <slavi> hi all
[11:14] <bioterror> hi
[11:14] <slavi> i need to install BG input for my keyboard
[11:14] <slavi> can someone give me a clue?
[11:15] <bioterror> bg?
[11:15] <slavi> bulgarian language
[11:15] <bioterror> there's two ways
[11:15] <bioterror> one is creating a xorg.conf which is kinda old way
[11:15] <slavi> aha
[11:16] <slavi> im not very good with konsole
[11:16] <bioterror> and another is making a autorun file that will launch setxkbmap bg
[11:16] <slavi> ok
[11:16] <bioterror> you can try
[11:16] <bioterror> type in terminal
[11:16] <bioterror> setxkbmap bg
[11:17] <slavi> root or user?
[11:17] <bioterror> I solved my problem with my desktop computer with that comand
[11:17] <bioterror> just a normal user
[11:17] <bioterror> you didnt specify on installation that keyboard language?
[11:20] <bioterror> slavi, did it work?
[11:23] <slavi_> its me again
[11:24] <slavi_> that worked but one way only
[11:24] <slavi_> no reverse to english
[11:24] <slavi_> i had to reboot
[13:40] <tc_> hello
[13:41] <ChrisDruif> Hi tc_ :)
[13:43] <tc_> so do you know why I call myself tc_?
[13:44] <ChrisDruif> Letters of your name?
[13:44] <Mkaysi> Because tc was registered? Or nickname requires 3 characters.
[13:45] <tc_> Haha,because I am using tinycore, tc is short for that
[13:45] <ChrisDruif> Ow god :D
[13:46] <tc_> but I am very interested in lubuntu, and I am wondering why I have problem to display chinese charaters with Lubuntu
[13:48] <ChrisDruif> You've got problems with that?
[13:49] <ChrisDruif> Which font do you use?
[13:50] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Chinese maybe?
[13:50] <tc_> Sir, I tried it in my live-USB and I don't kown which font it is,hehe.
[13:51] <tc_> Thank for bioterror's help
[13:52] <tc_> I'll try when I have time and make it a success to set lubuntu in my netbook.
[13:53] <szczur> tc_, probably you will have to install ttf-takao, ttf-wqy-microhei and ttf-wqy-zenhei. At least i had to install them to have japaneese fonts rendered
[13:53] <szczur> for korean fonts try ttf-unfonts
[13:54] <tc_> Ok, I've noted it down. Thanks
[13:59] <tc_> Goodbye and thanks, everyone. And someday I will be back to home from my university as this term is over. Wish you a good night!
[14:28] <jettero> how do you turn on the compose key in lubuntu?
[14:41] <jettero> seems you just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ... not exactly straight forward, but I'm apparently all set
[14:41] <jettero> (I'm assuming this'll work...)
[14:43] <jettero> yeah
[15:34] <phillw> jettero: well done :)
[15:35] <jettero> thanks.
[15:41] <jettero> I should also mention that you need GTK_IM_METHOD=xim and QT_IM_METHOD=xim in your .xsessionrc if you wish to be able to add to your .XCompose
[15:41] <jettero> that took a while to figure out
[15:42] <jettero> it's all so much easier in ubuntu with im-switch and the gtk prefs dialog for the compose key
[15:42] <jettero> but it's not terribly difficult in lubuntu either, once you find it
[15:47] <phillw> jettero: if we put in everything, we'd need the same system requirements as ubuntu - which would rather defeat the purpose of lubuntu :D
[16:05] <MichealH> phillw: ping
[16:44] <jettero> :)
[17:26]  * hajour is having diner now
[19:28] <PhilipZura> sultan2: you here?
[19:29] <sultan2> no :)
[19:29] <PhilipZura> ok I'll go
[19:31] <PhilipZura> sultan2: I'm not using PsiMedia and no idea how http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1901&p=12169#p12169
[19:32] <sultan2> and XEP-0166: Jingle?
[19:32] <sultan2> this http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0166.html
[19:32] <PhilipZura> with earlier version of psi
[19:32] <sultan2> yes
[19:32] <PhilipZura> no I never try
[19:33] <PhilipZura> only your sip
[19:33] <sultan2> :P
[19:33] <sultan2> still use skype?
[19:33] <PhilipZura> sure lol
[19:40] <sultan2> bad doy!
[19:40] <sultan2> s/doy/boy*
[19:40] <sultan2> dog :D
[19:41] <PhilipZura> i'm using jabber a lot and it's really nice once you understand how things work
[19:43] <sultan2> good
[20:41] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[20:48] <ChrisDruif> Hai kristian-aalborg :)
[21:01] <kristian-aalborg> hai
[21:02] <kristian-aalborg> what's the installed size of lubuntu again? 1.8 gb?
[21:26] <ChrisDruif> Sorry, was a bit pre-occupied with wiki editing :) I don't know I'm afraid :)
[22:32] <nubix> Hey, im using lubuntu and got a problem im not able to fix myself. After some time i may installed/removed something an now i dont have any sound. my /proc/asound and /dev/dsp disappeared.
[22:32] <nubix> Is someone here able to help me?
[22:39] <mark76> I can't :(
[22:41] <kristian-aalborg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/LucidLynx - I believe this should be for Karmic, not Lucid for the default iso?
[22:41] <ChrisDruif> How do you mean kristian-aalborg?
[22:42] <kristian-aalborg> sorry, I mean Maverick
[22:42] <kristian-aalborg> the iso is 10.10... lucid is 10.4
[22:43] <ChrisDruif> The latest is Maverick indeed...
[22:45] <kristian-aalborg> ChrisDruif: take a look at the page I linked to, it's probably easier to understand what I mean that way
[22:45] <kristian-aalborg> this is what you get when you click "release notes" on lubuntu.net
[22:46] <ChrisDruif> I come here when I click release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat/
[22:46] <nubix> Ok, the nexttime some douchbag comes by and asks you to help him with his soundsystem. Just tell him, he's dumb and purging linux-sound-base and reinstalling might help ;)
[22:46] <nubix> thx
[22:47] <kristian-aalborg> ChrisDruif: http://lubuntu.net/ - upper right link?
[22:48] <ChrisDruif> Then > no. From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu release notes it goes to Maverick :P
[22:48] <ChrisDruif> So the main Lubuntu site needs to be updated :)
[22:49] <kristian-aalborg> also, an md5sum for the iso would be great :)
[22:49] <ChrisDruif> Indeed :P
[22:49] <kristian-aalborg> and, the installed size... I remember talking about this here before and I think someone added it...
[22:50] <ChrisDruif> Well...I didn't :)
[22:50] <kristian-aalborg> or no-one had a fresh install with the default size... can't remember
[22:50] <ChrisDruif> Well...I could try a fresh install some day....when my main Ubuntu is borked again :P
[22:51] <kristian-aalborg> it's crucial as I have exactly two gigs
[22:52] <kristian-aalborg> 098254aeb0153b10bcfce948c43a0df6  lubuntu-10.10.iso - this is the md5sum I get - can someone confirm?
[22:53] <ChrisDruif> I'll check....you got some term. commands? (Don't want to install something :P
[22:55] <kristian-aalborg> md5sum filename.foo
[22:58] <ChrisDruif> Prolly .iso ;)
[22:58] <ChrisDruif> 098254aeb0153b10bcfce948c43a0df6
[23:01] <ChrisDruif> They match :)
[23:01] <kristian-aalborg> yay
[23:01] <kristian-aalborg> ;)
[23:02] <kristian-aalborg> do you have the rights to edit the wiki?
[23:03] <ChrisDruif> Lubuntu still isn't an "official" derivate from Ubuntu right? Otherwise the md5sum should be also on ubuntu.com
[23:03] <ChrisDruif> And no, I'm as low-level as you are :)
[23:03] <ChrisDruif> Joined recently :)
[23:04] <ChrisDruif> phillw: Do you know someone how's get editing right on lubuntu.net?
[23:04] <ChrisDruif> And isn't sleeping? O:-)
[23:05] <phillw> ChrisDruif: I've emailed the 'owner' already and had no rea
[23:05] <phillw> response
[23:06] <ChrisDruif> Alright :) Thanks
[23:06] <phillw> ChrisDruif: I'll go nag gilir again, but he is dead busy.
[23:09] <kristian-aalborg> hi phillw


[11:45] <paride2> Hi smoser
[11:45] <paride> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1845489 <- this is basically a question for you :)
[15:21] <paride> Odd_Bloke, while your general point on ^^ is completely correct (module variable != class variable), in the specific case it seem to me that no reference to the class variable exists (self.schema)
[15:35] <paride> OK, found it!
[16:00] <amansi26> I am trying to install cloud-init 19.1 on SLES15. But cloud-init init command throws an error : stages.py[ERROR]: Unable to render networking. Network config is likely broken: No available network renderers found. Searched through list: ['eni', 'sysconfig', 'netplan']   and the deployed VM on top of image captured from Base SLES15 VM is not assigned with the IP nor the cloud-init is active on the deployed VM
[16:01] <amansi26> Is there any workaround for this?
[16:19] <Odd_Bloke> amansi26: How are you installing it?
[16:20] <amansi26> Installing cloud-init rpm, that I made adding some custom modules
[16:28] <smoser> Odd_Bloke: htanks for filing pylint issue
[16:29] <smoser> amansi26: i think that rharper mentioned this yesterday.
[18:18] <rharper> blackboxsw: Odd_Bloke: https://code.launchpad.net/~raharper/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/372727
[18:25] <rharper> https://code.launchpad.net/~raharper/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/373277
[18:25] <rharper> that looks almost the same, crazy number selection
[20:59] <rharper> https://code.launchpad.net/~raharper/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/368845
[20:59] <rharper> otubo: ^
[23:03] <ahosmanmsft> Hello anyone here?
[23:04] <ahosmanmsft> Getting this error running cloud_tests, on query streams.
[23:04] <ahosmanmsft> tests.cloud_tests - ERROR - stage: collect for platform: azurecloud encountered error: no images found with filter: ['arch=amd64', 'endpoint=https://management.core.windows.net/', 'region=westus2', 'release=bionic']
[23:08] <ahosmanmsft> I might be off of IRC, message me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:08] <ahosmanmsft> Thanks


[00:14] <evhan> thumper: I think it was you who recommended No Such Thing as a Fish a while back? If so, thank you, it's hilarious.
[00:17] <thumper> evhan: no worries, I love it too
[03:27] <tlm> wallyworld: when you get back I have a question for you
[03:41] <timClicks> eyes are welcome on a "feature matrix" doc for providers (k8s compatibility and OS support to come) https://discourse.jujucharms.com/t/juju-feature-and-compatibility-matrix/1589
[04:13] <wallyworld> tlm: what's up?
[04:22] <tlm> got time for HO ?
[04:23] <tlm> wallyworld:
[04:23] <wallyworld> sure
[04:24] <wallyworld> tlm: am in standup
[04:24] <tlm> k
[06:55] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: you'll let me know when our PR is ready again for review?
[06:55] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: stil fixing tests.
[06:56] <wallyworld> no worries, just wanted to mnake sure i wasn't blocking you
[06:59] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: mostly done!
[06:59] <kelvinliu> almost.
[07:18] <wallyworld> manadart: this got accidentally left off the 2.7-current fork. had already landed into 2.7. so re-proposing my (landed) branch against 2.7-current. can you pretty please +1 or whatever? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11305
[07:37] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: it's ready to review now.
[07:38] <wallyworld> kelvinliu: ty, looking
[07:46] <kelvinliu> ty
[08:36] <manadart> wallyworld: Ticked it.
[11:03] <achilleasa> manadart: can you also take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11261. The CI gods have finally deemed it worthy of a green tick
[11:05] <manadart> achilleasa: Sure.
[11:39] <manadart> achilleasa: Approved it with a few minor things.
[12:50] <achilleasa> manadart: I have addressed your comments so I will go ahead and merge
[12:50] <manadart> achilleasa: Yup.
[15:40] <hml> achilleasa:  do you have a few minutes?
[15:40] <achilleasa> sure
[15:40] <achilleasa> daily?
[15:40] <hml> achilleasa: omw