[00:00] <brenda_> demetris, there is a lot of issues with that specific laptop hardware and Linux
[00:00] <demetris> i only need to fix my reboot issue
[00:01] <loganrun> don't understand how the system can just boot up read only
[00:01] <loganrun> that makes no sense
[00:01] <loganrun> what controls that
[00:01] <brenda_> demetris, ok.
[00:07] <loganrun> here is the boot log for my system:http://pastebin.com/gcQHj5WZ
[00:07] <loganrun> as I said it end up in read only mode, which makes no sense. If I remount the drive manually that does work fine so not sure what is going on
[00:07] <loganrun> this happened right after doing a system upgrade
[00:12] <flawless> hello
[00:13] <hggdh> loganrun: I see no disk error in your dmseg
[00:14] <loganrun> thanks for looking, did you see my previous messeage with the systemctrl log showing which services didn't start
[00:14] <loganrun> I wonder if it is a problem with grub
[00:16] <cablecoder> tried everything I can think of to get a usb device registered to a usb3 hub on 16.04
[00:16] <cablecoder> not working
[00:16] <hggdh> loganrun: perhaps something will be shown in journactl
[00:17] <loganrun> hggdh, the first red stuff I see is  systemd-tmpfiles[2126]: symlink(../proc/self/mounts, /etc/mtab) failed: Read-only file system
[00:18] <loganrun> systemd-udevd[1012]: Process '/lib/udev/hdparm' failed with exit code 5. (this isn't red though)
[00:20] <cablecoder> lsusb -t recognizes a usb 3 bus, and the device that is connected, but the device connects under a usb 2 bus everytime
[00:21] <loganrun> hggdh, any idea if that means anything
[00:23] <JFlash> hi, I'm back!
[00:23] <JFlash> I got someone in #networking to help me
[00:23] <loganrun> found something that says to for me to do ln -fs /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab
[00:24] <loganrun> not sure if that is safe or not
[00:24] <JFlash> now he says that I donly need a way to find out how to fix ipv4 domain resolution
[00:24] <JFlash> can anyone help?
[00:27] <loganrun> if anybody is running ubuntu 16.04 can you tell me if the file /proc/self/mounts is a symlink or an actual file
[00:28] <nacc> loganrun: it's a file, afaict, 'regular empty file' per stat
[00:28] <loganrun> ok thanks for checking
[00:28] <nacc> loganrun: /etc/mtab is a symlink to that typically
[00:28] <loganrun> getting: systemd-tmpfiles[2126]: symlink(../proc/self/mounts, /etc/mtab) failed: Read-only file system
[00:28] <loganrun> not sure what that means
[00:28] <nacc> loganrun: during boot?
[00:28] <loganrun> yes I think
[00:29] <MAAX> hello guys
[00:29] <loganrun> journalctl shows it
[00:29] <brenda_> demetris, update to the latest BIOS
[00:29] <MAAX> Site hackleme olan var mi
[00:29] <loganrun> wonder what will happen if  I just make it a symlink
[00:29] <dax> loganrun: that ln command is fine
[00:29] <MAAX> site hacked how
[00:30] <dax> MAAX: Ubuntu support only in here. We don't help with hacking.
[00:30] <MAAX> yes
[00:31] <tikun> I have a pretty low end HP AIO and Ubuntu doesn't seem to work well at all with the UEFI
[00:32] <tikun> have it enabled/disabled it just won't boot, no operating system found
[00:32] <tikun> Other Linux distros work such as CentOS or OpenSUSE
[00:32] <gueriLLaPunK> i ceatead a user via useradd -m <username> but it didnt ask me to create a pw for it
[00:32] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i make a passwd for that user?
[00:32] <tikun> just type passwd username
[00:32] <brenda_> Test putting acpi=off in the kernel line in your bootloader configuration file, this is not a solution just a way for you trying to identify what us causing your problem. Change it back after you are done testing.
[00:33] <gueriLLaPunK> tikun,
[00:33] <gueriLLaPunK> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for xxxxxx
[00:33] <gueriLLaPunK> nevermind
[00:34] <gueriLLaPunK> yeah, i tried switching to the new user and i did passwd and it asked for the current password
[00:35] <gueriLLaPunK> bujt if i do sudio -iu <user> then i can 'excute' cmds as that user, but i cant view or change current pw
[00:36] <brenda_> demetris, you may find that the only way to solve your problem is to find a special kernel for your laptop, if that does not work your last resource is to build your kernel.
[00:37] <MisterMom> hey all,  do LTS releases use the same repos as all the other releases ?
[00:38] <lordcirth> MisterMom, each release uses it's own set of repos, regardless of LTS
[00:38] <nacc> MisterMom: what do you mean? each release has its own repo area
[00:39] <brenda_> demetris, there are some way around your problem. Tip: Search for different ways to reboot Linux.
[00:39] <lordcirth> LTS repos just get maintained longer
[00:39] <MisterMom> nacc: im trying to figure out why so many of my favorite packages are missing in 16.04
[00:39] <nacc> MisterMom: define favorite?
[00:39] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, 'sudo passwd user' - root is never prompted for current password
[00:40] <gueriLLaPunK> thgank u, lordcirth :D
[00:40] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, np.  Hint in general:  root can do anything, no questions asked.
[00:41] <MisterMom> nacc:  ok I can not find any blogging clients for anything other than KDE which I am not using
[00:41] <nacc> MisterMom: what did you use before?
[00:41] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks again :) i wasnt logged in as root when i made the new user
[00:41] <MisterMom> nacc:  drivel
[00:42] <nacc> MisterMom: drivel hasn't been packaged since trusty
[00:43] <saibotgerris> ?
[00:43] <nacc> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drivel/+publishinghistory, Debian Bug #742348, it went unmaintained
[00:43] <brenda_> Hi! Is there any way one can get Firefox or Chromium to play Youtube videos as resource effective as mpv?
[00:43] <bazhang> !info mpv | brenda_
[00:43] <MisterMom> nacc:  problem for me is if i install one of the clients for kde it wants to install about 50 more other packeges mostly kde stuff and im not sure i want to do that
[00:44] <lordcirth> bazhang, how does that help?
[00:44] <bazhang> perhaps you meant mp4
[00:44] <lordcirth> bazhang, no, pretty sure he means what he said.  He asked this question earlier.
[00:44] <nacc> MisterMom: well, as it should, if you're asking it to install a kde client. So you've mentioned one package so far, it's unmaintained (upstream & in debian) and now dead. Do you have others?
[00:44] <MisterMom> nacc:  im using xubuntu
[00:44] <bazhang> lordcirth, otherwise the question does not make much sense, thats what
[00:44] <lordcirth> brenda_, are you opted in to the HTML5 trial?
[00:45] <brenda_> I want my browser to be as light on resources as mpv
[00:45] <lordcirth> bazhang, it makes perfect sense.  mpv plays youtube videos with low resource usage, while browsers use a ton to play the same video.
[00:45] <bazhang> lordcirth, mp4 is no longer a trial
[00:45] <MisterMom> nacc:  yes but there names escape me at the moment and im not on my computer
[00:45] <brenda_> lordcirth, I user html5 yes
[00:45] <lordcirth> bazhang, just checked, you are right.
[00:45] <brenda_> lordcirth, I use html5 yes
[00:46] <nacc> MisterMom: it's hard for me to help you out; there are always case of packages going away between releases. Particularly (I would think) between LTS releases, where in 2 years, many OSS projects may die/change/rename/etc
[00:46] <bazhang> brenda_, mpv is barely a gui, no browser will match that
[00:46] <MisterMom> nacc:  i guess i will keep looking around for somthing
[00:47] <MisterMom> nacc:  i know and i apreaciate any help at all
[00:47] <brenda_> bazhang, mpv is not a gui (as i understand it)
[00:47] <bazhang> brenda_, mpv can in fact be used as a backend for smplayer and the like
[00:47] <lordcirth> bazhang, it's not just the extra stuff the browser happens to be doing.  browser youtube cpu is much greater than browser idle + mpv video cpu
[00:47] <MisterMom> nacc:  i will find somthing eventually
[00:47] <nacc> MisterMom: for blogging, apt-cache shows me : blogilo, choqok, hotot
[00:48] <brenda_> baz, why cant a browser match mpv (kodi, vlc etc)?
[00:48] <nacc> MisterMom: there are probably others, just my casual grepping
[00:48] <bazhang> brenda_, which browser did you imagine could manage that
[00:48] <MisterMom> nacc:  hotot is more im and twitter and the other two are kde, i already looked at them
[00:49] <nacc> MisterMom: there is also qtm?
[00:49] <brenda_> bazhang, any browser on Linux should. As the do on Windows.
[00:50] <bazhang> brenda_, which browser, underlying OS is not an issue here
[00:50] <bazhang> !find blogfire
[00:51] <lordcirth> brenda_, are you sure that the same browser, on the same computer, is faster on Windows?
[00:51] <MisterMom> nacc:  no worrys im gona get back on my computer in a while and i will look some more then
[00:51] <bazhang> MisterMom, what was your go to bloggin software prior
[00:51] <brenda_> bazhang, the OS is def. an issue
[00:52] <brenda_> lordcirth, abs. sure
[00:52] <lordcirth> brenda_, what graphics card & drivers are you using?
[00:52] <MisterMom> bazhang: drivel
[00:52] <brenda_> lordcirth, playing youtube videos
[00:52] <bazhang> MisterMom, have you checked for a PPA build of drivel
[00:53] <MisterMom> have to get off this computer now thanks all
[00:53] <lordcirth> brenda_, GPU and driver?
[00:53] <nacc> bazhang: well, even that, I wouldn't recommend; drivel is dead (afaict) upstream maintainer requested its deletion from debian around utopic
[00:54] <bazhang> nacc true, but he/she seems to love it
[00:55] <brenda_> lordcirth, I have an CPU load of 80-100% in the browser (Linux). 20% with mpv. And 20% with the same browser in Windows.
[00:55] <thallada> I tried upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 and then 16.04 but everything seemed broken. Is this possible or should I give up and start from scratch with 16.04?
[00:55] <bazhang> I'd have thought blogfire was still a thing as well, so I am out of the loop on the bloggin scene
[00:55] <lordcirth> brenda_, Interesting but not what I asked.  What GPU and graphics driver are you using?
[00:55] <bazhang> thallada, 'seemed broken', what does that entrail exactly
[00:57] <gueriLLaPunK> i added a user to the sudoers file, but it still doesn't have permissions to install this .sh script
[00:57] <thallada> bazhang: it was a while ago so I don't remember exactly. I was just wondering if I just screwed something up or if it's actually not trivial.
[00:58] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, I bet the script isn't set to be executable.  chmod -x script.sh
[00:58] <bazhang> thallada, could be that since they are end of life, that you hit no updates available issue
[00:58] <brenda_> lordcirth, Intel i965 driver for Intel(R) CherryView - 1.7.0
[00:59] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, trying to execute something that's not an executable will return Permission Denied, regardless of user
[01:00] <gueriLLaPunK> lord4163_, i did what u said and it now saws the command is not found when i tried to execute it
[01:01] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, are you sure it's saying that your 'script.sh' isn't found?  Might be a command the script tries to run
[01:01] <lordcirth> brenda_, what little info I can find on the i965 driver is that it has poor performance and Intel hasn't done anything about it.
[01:02] <gueriLLaPunK> here is what im setting, lord4163_
[01:02] <gueriLLaPunK> err lordcirth
[01:02] <gueriLLaPunK> http://pastie.org/10930384#23
[01:02] <gueriLLaPunK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam/+bug/1301717
[01:03] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, are you sure you need to run it as root?  Steam shouldn't normally.
[01:03] <gueriLLaPunK> if i try to execute the script, it says permission denied
[01:03] <gueriLLaPunK> bash: ./steamcmd.sh: Permission denied
[01:04] <gueriLLaPunK> following this guide, lordcirth
[01:04] <gueriLLaPunK> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD#Linux
[01:04] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, run 'ls -l steamcmd.sh' to see it's permissions
[01:04] <brenda_> lordcirth, so it is the drivers fault that it works excelent with mpv, kodi, vlc (youtube hd and movies) but not with the browsers?
[01:05] <lordcirth> brenda_, I don't know.
[01:05] <gueriLLaPunK> -rwxrw-r-- 1 guerillapunk sshdusers 880 Feb  5  2013 steamcmd.sh
[01:05] <gueriLLaPunK> i made a new user, steam, and i thought i gave it sudo
[01:05] <tikun> damn internet
[01:05] <gueriLLaPunK> used https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-sudo-user-on-ubuntu-quickstart
[01:05] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, the guide you linked literally says: "In any case, do not run it as root, which can cause a serious security risk!"
[01:05] <tikun> sorry, I asked in here about UEFI and my desktop not wanting to let Ubuntu boot
[01:06] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, so remove steam from /etc/sudoers
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK> ah i see what ur saying
[01:07] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, are you trying to execute the script as "guerillapunk" or "steam" user?
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK> as steam
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK> im going to do it as gueriLLaPunK now
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK> i just wanted to make a user just for steam
[01:08] <brenda_> tikun, do you wish to install Ubuntu on a machine with UEFI?
[01:08] <gueriLLaPunK> ok so i excuted the cmd as guerillapunk and still the same fatal error when installing
[01:08] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, reading the guide, I think you are supposed to set the steamcmd files to be owned by "steam" and then su to "steam" to manage it.  However, the library problem is separate
[01:10] <tikun> brenda_, I've tried, with secureboot disabled it says no OS found
[01:10] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, if you put all the related files into /home/steam, and chmod o+rw the directory, that might solve the libsteam.so problem, according to the ticket you linked
[01:10] <tikun> with it enabled, no OS found
[01:11] <tikun> the only two Linux distros I ahve found that work
[01:11] <tikun> are CentOS and OpenSUSE
[01:11] <gueriLLaPunK> yes the dir is correct
[01:11] <lordcirth> tikun, have you tried setting BIOS to Legacy?
[01:11] <tikun> it's a cheap POS desktop
[01:11] <tikun> doesn't have that feature
[01:11] <lordcirth> I see.
[01:11] <tikun> probably just shouldn't even bother to keep trying
[01:12] <brenda_> tikun, I have installed Ubuntu on my machine wiht UEFI
[01:12] <tikun> although my HP Stream 11 laptop installed it perfectly fine. This HP AIO won't.
[01:12] <tikun> the HP stream is UEFI too
[01:12] <tikun> I've done this before on other computers
[01:12] <tikun> I just think this UEFI/BIOS is garbage
[01:13] <tikun> it won't even let me enable legacy booting, keeps saying to disable secure boot and the damn thing is disabled.
[01:13] <gueriLLaPunK> i did the chmod to both /steam and /steam/steamcmd dirs
[01:13] <gueriLLaPunK> still same error
[01:13] <gueriLLaPunK> and im still logged in as guerillapunk
[01:14] <brenda_> tikun, installing from USB?
[01:14] <tikun> tried USB and CD
[01:15] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, make sure all the steamcmd files are in /home/steam, owned by 'steam', then su to 'steam' user and run it
[01:16] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i check the owner?
[01:16] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, still 'ls -l'
[01:17] <brenda_> tikun, are you sure it is an Ubuntu UEFI install?
[01:17] <tikun> I am
[01:17] <gueriLLaPunK> drwxr-xr-x 2 steam root  4096 Aug  5 03:01 Steam
[01:17] <gueriLLaPunK> drwxr-xrwx 4 steam steam 4096 Aug  5 03:15 steamcmd
[01:18] <brenda_> tikun, and SUSE and CentOS work???
[01:18] <tikun> they do
[01:18] <tikun> they've added the keys to the UEFI
[01:18] <tikun> and all
[01:18] <tikun> boot fine, I just don't like either distro
[01:18] <brenda_> tikun, strange!
[01:18] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, and does it work?
[01:19] <lordcirth> tikun, you said doesn't work with Secure Boot off either, didn't you?  So it's not the keys.
[01:19] <gueriLLaPunK> no, lordcirth :\
[01:19] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, libsteam.so error?
[01:20] <gueriLLaPunK> yes
[01:20] <gueriLLaPunK> and even as root i get the same error
[01:20] <gueriLLaPunK> hmm
[01:20] <tikun> lordcirth, not sure why I'm even bothering with this POS desktop
[01:20] <lordcirth> gueriLLaPunK, see comment #2 on the bug report.  chmod'ing /home/steam may work
[01:20] <JFlash> sorry guys, i pasted this before but I did not check for answers
[01:21] <JFlash> doesn anyone know how to fix ipv4 issues?
[01:21] <brenda_> tikun, are you sure CentOS and Suse are UEFI installs?
[01:21] <G2Ntl3> 1
[01:21] <lordcirth> JFlash, there are logs you can search for answers
[01:21] <tikun> yes I am positive
[01:21] <JFlash> pasted = posted
[01:21] <JFlash> lordcirth, ok looking at logs now
[01:21] <G2Ntl3> chech the .target files
[01:22] <G2Ntl3> systemctl -a | grep ipv4
[01:22] <G2Ntl3> whts the sdtout ?
[01:22] <JFlash> I dont think anybody aswer
[01:23] <JFlash> I'd look for a fix myself but most websites do not even load
[01:23] <JFlash> only ipv6 websites load
[01:23] <lordcirth> JFlash, well, if that's what you asked, it's too vague to answer
[01:23] <JFlash> lordcirth, what other information do you need ?
[01:23] <lordcirth> JFlash, do you have another device on the same network?  Does it work?
[01:23] <JFlash> yes, 2 other and they do work
[01:24] <sparkix> hi
[01:24] <lordcirth> JFlash, Ubuntu 16.04?  Fresh install?
[01:24] <JFlash> lordcirth, this has happned a couple of times before bt2
[01:24] <JFlash> btw*
[01:24] <brenda_> tikun, I do not understand why it accept one UEFI install and not another. On my machine I have installed many diferent linux distributions with UEFI (even wuth secure boot)
[01:24] <JFlash> lordcirth, unfortunately i do not remember how to fix it
[01:24] <b-yeezi> Hi all. Is there a snapcraft-specific channel?
[01:25] <JFlash> lordcirth, no, 15.10 cannot upgrade now due to slow connection
[01:25] <tikun> brenda: CentOS & OpenSUSE installed w/ secure boot. Debian, Ubuntu wouldn't with it on or off.
[01:25] <lordcirth> JFlash, was it installed as 15.10 or upgraded?
[01:27] <brenda_> tikun, can it be something to do with 32/64 bit? All of the installs you tried are 64bit?
[01:27] <G2Ntl3> maybw
[01:28] <brenda_> t9i9
[01:28] <lordcirth> JFlash, I think G2Ntl3's messages were directed to you, you should try them
[01:29] <brenda_> tikun, my BIOS have issues with 32bit OS
[01:29] <G2Ntl3> JFlash what kernel module are loaded on boot ?
[01:31] <G2Ntl3> Jflash r u on a unix box?
[01:31] <G2Ntl3> what does a hostname -i output
[01:32] <tikun> brenda_, I'm only using 64bit
[01:33] <JFlash> sorry guys
[01:33] <JFlash> i sec
[01:35] <G2Ntl3> well looks like something we cant help you fic
[01:35] <JFlash> back
[01:35] <JFlash> sorry someone else was helping
[01:35] <G2Ntl3> k tyt
[01:35] <JFlash> how can i tell the kernel module?
[01:36] <JFlash> i am on a lg laptop that i removed windows and put ubuntu in it
[01:37] <JFlash> worked fine but today i used some other connections at work and the networking of the machine must have gotten confused with all the changes
[01:37] <sturm_> uname -a
[01:38] <G2Ntl3> uname -r
[01:39] <G2Ntl3> have to ttyl
[01:39] <JFlash> np
[01:39] <JFlash> thank you anyway
[01:39] <JFlash> 4.2.0-42-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 21:26:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:43] <R13ose> How do I speedup the boot time?
[01:44] <x0xD]> R13ose: uninstall what you don't need
[01:46] <Agent> Hi, I was trying to upgrade from Wily to Xenial but it procps breaks it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22258256/
[01:47] <R13ose> x0xD]: okay
[01:47] <squinty> R13ose, just under 15 seconds here with SSD drive.
[01:48] <OerHeks> R13ose, make coffee, that is what i do.
[01:48] <Bashing-om> !info procps
[01:48] <R13ose> OerHeks: what is that?\
[01:49] <x0xD]> stimulant beverage, R13ose
[01:49] <R13ose> ok
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Agent: What returns ' apt-cache policy procps ' in a pastebin .
[01:53] <texla> Upgraded from 14.04.4 to 16.04.1 thru the update system--upon login my screen is 50% darked than normal --relogin 2or3 times brings the screen to normal
[01:54] <Agent> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22259465/
[01:56] <Bashing-om> Agent: Well, the correct version is installed .. maybe see what reutls ' sudo apt install --reinstall procps  ? See if now it will configure .
[01:59] <Agent> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22259934/
[02:01] <Bashing-om> Agent: Ouch ! " Internal Error, No file name for procps:amd64" That blows me away .. that is a required file ! ' sudo apt install procps " ??
[02:03] <Agent> Bashing-om: nope :/, getting the dpkg error
[02:04] <Agent> My system is broken now
[02:04] <Agent> thanks Xenial :(
[02:09] <OerHeks> Agent, boot, hold shift, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), and login, perform: Sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run update -f, all should be fine now
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Agent: ^^ OerHeks . Maybe also will work ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt install -fy ' ??
[02:14] <OerHeks> do that dpkg configure first.
[02:14] <OerHeks> do't clean, for now
[02:14] <OerHeks> c/don't clean, for now
[02:15] <Agent> Getting the same error
[02:15] <Agent> with dpkg configure
[02:15] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, that line is what i harvested sofar.
[02:18] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Not too sure anymore of configure -a ; No longer supported ? see: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=721329#15 .
[02:19] <OerHeks> No, it worked yesterday. iirc
[02:19] <OerHeks> configure -all too.
[02:19] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Noted ! thanks for that .
[02:20] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, that is reconfigure
[02:20] <OerHeks> hmm
[02:23] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Uh huh .. I have had my wires crossed before !
[02:24] <meow> ？
[02:28] <kurowa> hi.
[02:28] <kurowa> can I request help?
[02:29] <OerHeks> hi kurowa, ask wait and see
[02:30] <kurowa> ok. how can I check whether a part of my network is blocked or not? my thunderbird and rescuetime app cannot connect to internet, while firefox can.
[02:32] <tatertots> kurowa you already know what tcp and or udp ports you want to investigate?
[02:32] <kurowa> I'm a beginner
[02:32] <kurowa> so no.
[02:35] <kurowa> If there is anything I've to learn first, that's ok, I'd ask what should I learn first.
[02:40] <rypervenche> kurowa: This is your home network and you haven't set up any firewall?
[02:40] <kurowa> yes.
[02:40] <tatertots> kurowa you mentioned thunderbird email
[02:41] <kurowa> yes, I do?
[02:41] <tatertots> did you want to check if your<EMAIL_ADDRESS>might be blocked?
[02:41] <kurowa> so far what I've done with thunderbird is setting up the email and gnupg.
[02:42] <kurowa> tatertots: I'm not sure I understand?
[02:42] <eelstrebor> i need some help debugging multiple issues with ubuntu 16.04 on a asus gl552vw - one problem is that both lshw and lspci and hwinfo starts but locks up so i don't get to see hardware info
[02:42] <tatertots> see if you can communicate to the email servers that provide you with email, imap/pop ect ect
[02:43] <kurowa> tatertots: so, what I should do is try to log in to the email provider with other applications?
[02:43] <tatertots> I"m sorry i misunderstood, what the actual problem is
[02:44] <kurowa> the problem is some of my applications that needed access to internet cannot access it?
[02:45] <tatertots> is there a particular one that can't access the internet right now?
[02:45] <kurowa> thunderbird and RescueTime.
[02:45] <tatertots> were they both working previously and stopped working?
[02:45] <kurowa> yesterday, yes.
[02:46] <kurowa> I can access the email just fine through mozilla, so I'm a little bit confused.
[02:46] <kurowa> firefox, I mean
[02:46] <tatertots> and you've tried sending a test email ?
[02:46] <kurowa> no, I haven't
[02:47] <kurowa> where should I test it? from thunderbird or firefox?
[02:47] <tatertots> and you've tried having someone send you a test email, which would verify thunderbird/email inbound/outbound
[02:48] <blocky> anyone seen this before or know what it means? invalid video mode specification 'text', booting in blind mode
[02:49] <Hoodedgryphon> Hey
[02:49] <Hoodedgryphon> I have an issue installing ubuntu
[02:49] <kurowa> ok... it seems that the gmail doesn't give me access to the thunderbird. Configured a yahoo email account in thunderbird and it works fine.
[02:50] <Hoodedgryphon> Hello?
[02:50] <kurowa> Hoodedgryphon, the issue is?
[02:50] <OerHeks> blocky did you edit grub and put text in it?
[02:50] <kurowa> tatertots: perhaps there is just something wrong with RescueTime today. Thanks.
[02:50] <Hoodedgryphon> I have a flash drive and I've booted to it.
[02:51] <kurowa> then?
[02:51] <Hoodedgryphon> But when I try to install it wants to install on the flash drive, not the computer.
[02:52] <HoodedGryphon_> Any ideas?
[02:52] <rypervenche> kurowa: Sounds like there may be some connectivity or configuration issues on your end.
[02:52] <kurowa> I think so now.
[02:53] <tatertots> how did you create your flash drive. using dd, unetbootin, startup disk creator integrated into ubuntu ect?
[02:54] <HoodedGryphon_> Rufus
[02:54] <HoodedGryphon_> as recommended
[02:54] <PTS> Is there any way to make sure that my computer doesn't go idle or to sleep when I am watching a movie?
[02:54] <PTS> I want it to go idle every 30 minutes, unless I am watching a movie.
[02:55] <tatertots> have you tried a different iso / media?
[02:55] <HoodedGryphon_> Not yet
[02:55] <HoodedGryphon_> I got the iso from the website
[02:56] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[02:56] <rypervenche> kurowa: I would check the logs from both programs. I don't use either, so I don't know where the debug information can be found, but maybe Google or someone here will know.
[02:58] <rfleming> Greetings!
[02:58] <SniperX> hello world
[02:58] <rfleming> Hello back
[02:58] <HoodedGryphon_> the os seems to work fine, it's just a kink in the installer AFAICT
[02:59] <OerHeks> HoodedGryphon_, we need more details, what is on that hdd, mbr/gpt, UEFI bios perhaps?
[03:00] <HoodedGryphon_> win10 on a 256gb SSD
[03:00] <HoodedGryphon_> I made a 40gb partition for ubuntu
[03:00] <rfleming> I've some strange desktop icon label/drop-shadow mismatch thing happening in xfce4; looks like this: https://ibin.co/2qTQ1Md6y4Ml.png
[03:00] <rfleming> anyone with any ideas?
[03:00] <HoodedGryphon_> but i can't access it
[03:00] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, 1. Did you format it?  2. Is it mounted?
[03:01] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, this through the installer?
[03:01] <OerHeks> made a 40 gb partiton and formatted? or did you leave it empty?
[03:01] <HoodedGryphon_> I didn't do anything but create the partition
[03:01] <HoodedGryphon_> just left it empty
[03:01] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, where did you create the partition?
[03:01] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, and where are you trying to access the partition?
[03:01] <HoodedGryphon_> on the SSD
[03:01] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, Did you create it on Windows 10?
[03:02] <HoodedGryphon_> I flashed the iso to a usb and I'm running ubuntu off that
[03:02] <HoodedGryphon_> trying to install ubuntu to that partition now
[03:02] <OerHeks> HoodedGryphon_, pastebin the output of ' sudo parted -l  '
[03:03] <HoodedGryphon_> http://pastebin.com/gz0kiSc3
[03:03] <HoodedGryphon_> It only sees the flash drive for some reason
[03:03] <OerHeks> :-(
[03:04] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, Delete the partition altogether
[03:04] <rfleming> let the Installer find the empty space
[03:04] <HoodedGryphon_> how
[03:05] <rfleming> same place you created the partition
[03:05] <HoodedGryphon_> It doesn't see any of C:
[03:05] <rfleming> You will have to exit the Ubuntu installer, boot back into Windows and do it the way you are familiar
[03:06] <OerHeks> rfleming, look at that pastebin, no hdd at all
[03:06] <OerHeks> even when windows was installed with bitlocker, it would show.
[03:06] <dm_comp> Hi, I am planning to install ubuntu on my new laptop but i would like to use a usb to load my ubuntu. I have found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing which would make this possible, but it has a warning/bug about using a  different partition. will this bug affect me if i use a usb as a place to store my bootloader. it looks like it only affects people that use a different partition not a drive all togehter(usb in
[03:07] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, can you pastebin the output of lsblk please
[03:08] <HoodedGryphon_> http://pastebin.com/s1hzp6FM
[03:08] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, Yeah... your disk is missing
[03:09] <OerHeks> HoodedGryphon_, is your original hdd or hdds configured as hw-raid ?
[03:09] <HoodedGryphon_> idk
[03:09] <HoodedGryphon_> What do you mean by missing?
[03:10] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, I mean, Ubuntu cannot see your hard drive.  That usually means you are missing a driver...
[03:10] <rfleming> ... or your disk is dead
[03:10] <Guest97238> nick name zzizzi
[03:10] <nevil> Forgot the "/"
[03:10] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, do you have another operating system on your computer?
[03:10] <HoodedGryphon_> So...what can I do to tell ubuntu that my disk still exists?
[03:10] <HoodedGryphon_> Yes, it came with win10
[03:11] <name> thanks
[03:11] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon_, can you still boot into Windows?
[03:11] <HoodedGryphon_> Let's find out
[03:11] <rfleming> gl!
[03:11] <HoodedGryphon_> See you soon!
[03:12] <rfleming> OerHeks, weird.
[03:12] <rfleming> 5 years ago, I could see the installer not seeing the disk...
[03:13] <OerHeks> beats me too, rfleming
[03:13] <HoodedGryphon__> Calling y'all from win10!
[03:13] <HoodedGryphon__> You don't know how relieved I am right now
[03:13] <HoodedGryphon__> Hello?
[03:14] <OerHeks> wb HoodedGryphon__
[03:14] <rfleming> that's good
[03:14] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, what kind of computer you have?
[03:14] <HoodedGryphon__> thx
[03:14] <HoodedGryphon__> dell xps 13
[03:14] <HoodedGryphon__> brand new
[03:15] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/696413/ubuntu-installer-cant-find-any-disk-on-dell-xps-13-9350
[03:15] <OerHeks> uh oh, found that too...
[03:15] <rfleming> From that link: Main problem is that DELL shipped with Windows pre-installed in IDE mode.
[03:15] <HoodedGryphon__> Oh shit
[03:16] <HoodedGryphon__> Yeah so do I have to reinstall windows?
[03:16] <OerHeks> backup data, change bios IDE > AHCI, reinstall windows, and try again
[03:16] <OerHeks> or is someone smart to know how to convert ?
[03:16] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, the second answer may be your answer.  Switch the disk mode.  You'll have to go back and forth in BIOS to change it but you can boot
[03:17] <HoodedGryphon__> Ok I'm kind of new to BIOS-level tricks
[03:17] <rfleming> otherwise, you have to restart from scratch
[03:17] <HoodedGryphon__> How hard/dangerous is this?
[03:17] <dm_comp> in this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing will the Bug #1049549  impact me if i select a usb?
[03:17] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, Third answer is a 'fix': http://www.tenforums.com/drivers-hardware/15006-attn-ssd-owners-enabling-ahci-mode-after-windows-10-installation-5.html
[03:17] <rfleming> Use at your own risk :)
[03:18] <HoodedGryphon__> How dangerous is all this?
[03:18] <rfleming> could make your windows not boot
[03:18] <HoodedGryphon__> shit
[03:18] <rfleming> I'd do the 'start from scratch' route...
[03:18] <rfleming> ... or use an external HDD
[03:19] <OerHeks> I have no confidence in that trick, but worth a try, you can always re-install after that
[03:19] <HoodedGryphon__> So I'd have to go to BIOS
[03:19] <HoodedGryphon__> then format the windows partition from there?
[03:19] <OerHeks> bios > hdd controller > IDE to AHCI
[03:19] <rfleming> Uhh... Do you have recovery media?
[03:19] <rfleming> you might want to start there
[03:20] <HoodedGryphon__> Yeah I do but tbh I'm not sure how to use it
[03:20] <rfleming> http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN297924
[03:20] <OerHeks> the XPS13 uses an M.2 NVMe SSD ??
[03:20] <OerHeks> nice
[03:20] <rfleming> You would go into BIOS, and change the disk mode from IDE to AHCI... then boot off the recovery media and do a factory reset
[03:21] <rfleming> that'll wipe everything out in Windows... so make sure you have backups :)
[03:21] <HoodedGryphon__> Well I just got the computer so I'm not losing much
[03:22] <rfleming> Good luck
[03:22] <HoodedGryphon__> Is the advice from tenforums there really so dangerous?
[03:22] <HoodedGryphon__> Reading through, it doesn't *sound* that bad
[03:23] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, well if it doesn't work, you'll most likely have to format and start from scratch
[03:23] <HoodedGryphon__> Well isn't that what I'm doing anyways?
[03:23] <rfleming> I guess.
[03:23] <OerHeks> installing win10 wil be 30 minutes, updating 24 hrs ..
[03:24] <rfleming> OerHeks, that's Win7
[03:24] <rfleming> Win10 updates pretty quick.
[03:25] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, using recovery media is a piece of cake and is the easiest option.
[03:25] <HoodedGryphon__> So I can go with tenforums: Fast, easy, but risks ruining the system and forcing me to format the disk
[03:26] <HoodedGryphon__> or with the other, where I format the disk and then reinstall win10?
[03:26] <fox__> Hello, i have a question about fancontrol in lubuntu. Can anyone help? I'd like to be able to control the temperature and fan speeds on my laptop, since the fans havent been running cold enough since i got linux.
[03:26] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, it's your computer and your decision.
[03:26] <OerHeks> no risc. HoodedGryphon__ , dell should install in AHCI mode, the only risc is dell losing clients in the future
[03:27] <HoodedGryphon__> just want to make sure I understand situation
[03:27] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[03:27] <HoodedGryphon__> Yeah seems like they should
[03:28] <HoodedGryphon__> Is there any way to verify my recovery media?
[03:29] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, only way I know is to boot off of it
[03:29] <rfleming> maybe they have a media check option when you boot in it
[03:30] <HoodedGryphon__> I just want to make sure that it'll actually work before I need it
[03:30] <OerHeks> HoodedGryphon__, did you burn it yourself?
[03:30] <HoodedGryphon__> yes
[03:31] <OerHeks> no guarantees, but if burning is 100% succesfull, why doubt ?
[03:31] <rfleming> OerHeks, is lm-sensors enough, or do you need a power manager like tlp
[03:31] <HoodedGryphon__> because my brand new laptop is on the line
[03:31] <rfleming> The only problem with M.2 drives... no one has a bunch lying around to swap in and out
[03:31] <OerHeks> the bios should keep the temp low, if not, clean out the dust
[03:31] <HoodedGryphon__> I'm trying to avoid taking too much risk here
[03:32] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, that would be sticking with Windows :)
[03:32] <HoodedGryphon__> lol yeah but I don't want to be boring
[03:33] <rfleming> although there are risks inherent there as well.
[03:34] <OerHeks> That risc is not our problem, hard but true.
[03:35]  * rfleming ♫♫ Highway tooooo, the danger zone... ♫♫
[03:35] <HoodedGryphon__> Also, is it possible to delete a partition?
[03:35] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, yep.  Just need a partition editor like gparted, or diskpart or fdisk or ...
[03:36] <fox__> okay so i found out how i can see the temperatures, but i cant change the rpm. if i do sudo apt install fancontrol like it says then i get a "temporarily unavailable" error unable to lock the administration directory
[03:36] <HoodedGryphon__> so diskmgmt doesn't cut it?
[03:36] <rfleming> fox__, sounds like you have another instance of the software system running, either via updates, etc.
[03:37] <fox__> rfleming ah i had the software program open, that fixes it thanks
[03:37] <rfleming> fox__, no problem.  Good luck
[03:39] <rfleming> HoodedGryphon__, no, it's limited to disks it hasn't booted from
[03:39] <rfleming> same with diskpart
[03:39]  * jmpp greets!
[03:39] <rfleming> jmpp, howdy!
[03:39] <jmpp> Not too sure if this is the right place to come for help, but I might as well try just in case
[03:39] <fox__> rfleming okay so lm-sensors and fancontrol are both installed. how do i run it?
[03:39] <jmpp> I have Ubuntu 16 running under VMWare Fusion, and it's been working really nice
[03:40] <jmpp> however, a few days ago I installed a Wifi extender, and I think it coincides that since that day my VM hasn't been able to get an IPv4
[03:40] <rfleming> fox__, best place I can point you is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[03:40] <johnc4510> fox__: in a terminal type:  sensors
[03:41] <jmpp> oddly, it does have an IPv6, but not a v4. And that IPv6 doesn't exactly provide network connectivity, so I'm not sure if it's self-assigned
[03:41] <rfleming> jmpp, sounds like your extender is blocking dhcp
[03:42] <jmpp> I try ifup ens33 and I see several DHCPDISCOVER messages sent to <IP_ADDRESS>, which seems normal...
[03:42] <jmpp> but no responses, and after plenty of attempts, ifup gives up
[03:42] <rfleming> jmpp, yes, but the ACKs are not there
[03:42] <fox__> it doesnt say how i change the rpm though
[03:42] <rfleming> jmpp, and if you remove the extender, do things work again?
[03:43] <jmpp> I've been hestitant to turn it off, because I rely on it, but I guess i'm just gonna have to
[03:43] <rfleming> jmpp, well it's just temporary
[03:43] <jmpp> I was hoping to get some debugging tips that I could try directly from Ubuntu, other than assigning a manual IP
[03:44] <rfleming> if everything works... I'd go into the extender's settings and see what DHCP server settings there are
[03:44] <jmpp> there aren't any DHCP settings, unfortunately
[03:44] <rfleming> jmpp, what extender do you have?
[03:44] <jmpp> it's a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900
[03:45] <rfleming> jmpp, that's a router
[03:46] <jmpp> restarting extender
[03:46] <rfleming> what is the model of your extender?
[03:46] <jmpp> my router, Apple's Airport Extreme, has a DHCP reservation for this VM
[03:46] <Steven_M> Hi all
[03:46] <jmpp> rfleming: nope, it's an extender
[03:47] <jmpp> restarted extender, Ubuntu got an ip after 'ifup ens33'
[03:47] <rfleming> http://www.ca.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-range-extenders/EX7000.aspx ?
[03:47] <rfleming> Howdy Steven_M
[03:48] <Steven_M> rfleming: Hi :)
[03:48] <jmpp> rfleming: yeah, "Hardware Version: EX7000"
[03:48] <jmpp> but it's advertised as "Nighthawk AC1900" :P
[03:48] <rfleming> jmpp, everything working now?
[03:48] <Steven_M> rfleming: How do I over come these dpkg --remove errors?: http://pastebin.com/raw/dAeYv0cg
[03:49] <rfleming> Steven_M, manually delete the directories and try again
[03:49] <jmpp> rfleming: well, as the extender was rebooting I issued "ifup ens33" and the VM did get the IP that my router has reserved for it, so it's pretty clear that the extender is creating some kind of conflict
[03:49] <rfleming> Steven_M, rm -fR /usr/local/Brother should be sufficient
[03:49] <fox__> I get an error when i try to command sudo pmwconfig or just pmwconfig, help. im trying to control my fans
[03:50] <jmpp> was only hoping someone here had a magic bullet, by the tangential fact that only my Ubuntu system is suffering from this ;) because my two OS X machines and two iPhones still get their IP's as usual
[03:50] <rfleming> Steven_M, out of curiousity though, why are you using dpkg to add and remove packages?
[03:51] <vahe> hi, http://paste.debian.net/786986/ where's my wifi ?
[03:52] <rfleming> vahe, not in that pastebin :)
[03:52] <OerHeks> vahe, please don't crosspost
[03:52] <fox__> rfleming do you know why i get a "cant read configuration file" when i do command 'fancontrol' and "command not found" when i do 'sudo pmwconfig' or 'pmwconfig'. im trying to get my fans to work
[03:54] <rfleming> fox__, you probably need to run with sudo
[03:54] <fox__> rfleming you mean 'sudo fancontrol'?
[03:54] <OerHeks> fox what makes you think your fan does not work?
[03:55] <fox__> my sensors command says my cpu is 90 C / 194 F which is really hot. and its suspiciously silent.
[03:56] <Steven_M> rfleming: because I downloaded the package from a 3rd party website, it's not from a repo.
[03:56] <rfleming> Steven_M, manually delete the folders and try dpkg again
[03:57] <Steven_M> rfleming: cool, thanks heaps :)
[03:58] <rfleming> np
[03:59] <jmpp> rfleming: I think I found my problem: https://community.netgear.com/t5/WiFi-Range-Extenders-Repeaters/EX7000-Virtual-MAC-Address-problems/td-p/967186
[04:00] <rfleming> jmpp, Cool!
[04:02] <jmpp> rfleming: only... it doesn't seem to have a solution :/
[04:03] <jmpp> other than tossing out the not too cheap extender and getting another that doesn't play with virtual mac addresses in that way
[04:10] <tatertots> i'm having a slice of pizza
[04:13] <vahe> lost all Wi-Fi where not displayed :(
[04:14] <OerHeks> they sure can help you in #debian, vahe
[04:14] <vahe> MINIPC pcg02u
[04:14] <vahe> UBUNTU 16.06
[04:15] <vahe> I upgraded to 14.04 and found that 16 doesn't support my wifi
[04:16] <vahe> OerHeks: I received they mentioned to ask here
[04:16] <vahe> not clever
[04:16] <OerHeks> seeing those pastebins, there is no wifi
[04:17] <vahe> the same can not evaporate
[04:17] <OerHeks> so a) it broke down, or b) there is windows on the ssd, in fastoot mode, that can prevent seeing wifi
[04:17] <OerHeks> c/fastboot
[04:18] <vahe> no no,this is ubuntu
[04:19] <rfleming> vahe, a laptop?
[04:20] <OerHeks> compustick , like this one http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/04/08/mele-pcg02u-intel-bay-trail-tv-stick-runs-ubuntu-costs-59/
[04:20] <vahe> OerHeks:  yes! :)
[04:21] <vahe> this may device
[04:23] <rfleming> vahe, you will have to go to linuxium.com.au to find drivers
[04:23] <rfleming> or download their latest image
[04:23]  * rfleming shrugs.  This is foreign territory
[04:24] <vahe> have to go back to 14.04
[04:24] <rfleming> No
[04:24] <rfleming> http://www.linuxium.com.au/how-tos
[04:25] <rfleming> there is a section on using upgraded kernels
[04:25] <rfleming> just below the icons for all the ubuntu images
[04:25] <vahe> aha yes
[04:25] <rfleming> vahe, it's on you to find out what works with your specialized hardware
[04:25] <blocky> anyone seen this before or know what it means? invalid video mode specification 'text', booting in blind mode
[04:25] <blocky> is there a list of error codes for grub?
[04:27] <rfleming> that sounds EFI related
[04:27] <vahe> rfleming: can you tell me what should I do? I understand I am new
[04:27] <OerHeks> blocky did you edit grub and put text in it?
[04:28] <blocky> it happened on it's own after an update, i didn't check what i was updating :(
[04:29] <rfleming> vahe, I can't.  You'll have to find some experts.
[04:29] <rfleming> maybe the people over at #linux-rockchip would know.
[04:29] <rfleming> yes, you don't have the same chip, but the same type of device
[04:29] <blocky> skylake desktop, gigabyte mobo
[04:29] <vahe> thanks rfleming
[04:31] <blocky> i can get to recovery mode, drop to root console etc, but updating grub doesn't fix
[04:35] <tatertots> it's cold i'm adding layers
[04:36] <rfleming> OK, night all
[04:36] <blocky> dpkg.log modified 3 days ago, so no record of whatever was attempted this morning
[04:56] <circ-user-7Ckx9> hello
[04:57] <circ-user-7Ckx9> why is everything in ubuntu done in the terminal?
[04:57] <circ-user-7Ckx9> its so confusing
[04:58] <cfhowlett> circ-user-7Ckx9, false and misleading question.  shame.
[04:58] <circ-user-7Ckx9> wheres ur bell?
[04:58] <SwedeMike> circ-user-7Ckx9: well, not everything. But this is the case with all operating systems, if you really want to change things, you have to use the terminal (CLI)
[05:00] <Bashing-om> circ-user-7Ckx9: The terminal is the common demominator across all linux .. whereas GUI differ with each and every one .
[05:02] <tatertots> an impressive amount of things can be accomplished with the GUI also :)
[05:02] <cfhowlett> ... aaaaaaaaand he left.  looks like a drive-by mini-FUD rant.
[05:15] <OerHeks> if vahe comes back, that stick has got a dual chip wifi/bt Realtek RTL8723BS, build instructions can be found here http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/05/26/updating-star-cloud-pcg02u-to-ubuntu-16-04-with-wifi-and-hdmi-audio-support/
[05:21] <draecal> Hello there, anyone using Elementary OS (Ubuntu Based) has managed to connect to a proxy server? Connect nor Set up a server
[05:22] <OerHeks> draecal, elementary has its own issues
[05:22] <OerHeks> !elementary
[05:23] <draecal> Thanks
[05:25] <cluelessperson> Hi all, today I found that Ubuntu is SOMEHOW controlling my keyboard backlight.    Can someone please help me figure out what's doing it?
[05:29] <coby> ode wrangler node value output blender
[05:29] <coby> node*
[05:29] <cfhowlett> coby, sounds like you need to take it up with the blender channel.
[05:29] <coby> Wow sorry guys, wrong window.
[05:29] <cfhowlett> no worries
[05:29] <coby> Although, I am curious to meet any Blender users here on Ubuntu
[05:30] <coby> Getting better render times on here vs Windows 10
[05:30] <cfhowlett> coby, several I'm sure.  more likely to be found in #ubuntustudio.  consider yourself invited.
[05:31] <coby> And if there are any Blender Node Wranglers, that would be cool. For some reason they don't seem to have a node that outputs numerical values to the compositor view
[05:31] <coby> cfhowlett, thanks
[05:34] <tatertots> 2
[05:45] <cfhowlett> *can I just say ... I LOVE ubuntu*  My main machine sick and in the shop.  I need a daily, portable driver so picked up a Mac Air.  Added Virtual Box, installed Ubuntustudio and all was ALMOST perfect.
[05:48] <cfhowlett> I sneaker carry my print jobs on USB as I do not trust the university computers nor are they usable in English.  For some obscure reason, my USB was unusable more often than not.  I couldn't figure out what / where to initiate a persistent fix.  The darn thing just wasn't usable.  Today, I added a USB filter to virtualbox.  Now, my USB automounts as soon as  I plug in.  Winning!
[05:54] <kalexyco> bonjour
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !fr | kalexyco
[05:55] <meow> (●—●)
[06:08] <hstl> Hi all. Is Lubuntu best choice for old computers among other Ubuntus?
[06:09] <Bashing-om> hstl: Yepper ; Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[06:10] <hstl> Bashing-om, thank you
[06:11] <anirban> Hi!
[06:11] <rattlebattle79> Is there anything negative to say about LXD? I have tested it out now, and I see no reasons to use virtualization like KVM if you only virtualize Linux.
[06:14] <Bashing-om> hstl: :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu .
[06:23] <ducasse> rattlebattle79: one thing is that separation of guests is stronger in full virtual machines than in containers.
[06:23] <OlofL> What is the command to set dhcp on an interface? I don't want to set it at boot via /etc/network/interfaces
[06:24] <orlock> dhclient devicename
[06:24] <OerHeks> OlofL, use networkmanager, be sure that 'all users may connect to this network'is enabled
[06:24] <orlock> with appropriate permissions
[06:25] <OlofL> OerHeks: im only have console atm
[06:27] <OlofL> and how do I a non persistant route?
[06:27] <ducasse> OlofL: you can use nmcli if you want to use network manager
[06:43] <TsakNorris> I need fast connection to other Linux computer, but i don't want ciphers (SSH is too slow and i don
[06:43] <TsakNorris> don't care security now
[06:44] <TsakNorris> i want to play youtube videos with my server
[06:44] <TsakNorris> so arcfour cipher is too heavy
[06:45] <bhuddah> TsakNorris: whatever you think your problem might be it probably is not.
[06:46] <ashik> heii is the network bug fixed in 16.04???
[06:46] <TsakNorris> i just want fast remote connection. In order to use SSH i have to use some kind of cipher. Even the lightest isn't enough light.
[06:46] <hstl> Question: Xubuntu and Linux Mint with Xfce - what is the difference in speed, efficiency? Need to choose for installing on an old computer (Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz, 1Gb RAM).
[06:47] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: ssh supports null cipher if compiled with hpn (high performance) flag
[06:48] <TsakNorris> Triffid_Hunter: hmm. ok, that sound superDuperGood :)
[06:48] <ducasse> ashik: 'the network bug'? you have to be specific.
[06:49] <yoshimitsu_alt>  --- hstl : If you can , use openbox window manager...
[06:49] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: and if you're transferring data rather than logging in and doing terminal stuff, just use netcat (nc command)
[06:49] <Bashing-om> hstl: Are you handy ? .. I run a core install and do have xfce .. some kind of fast !
[06:50] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: wait, you're playing videos? using X-forwarding? why not just transfer the already-compressed video stream over the network eg with ssh -D socks forwarder? (privoxy helps with that route btw)
[06:51] <nikola_i> hi, i am trying to use nvidia proprietary drivers on ubuntu 16.04 with nvidia 840m. Everything works fine except system wakes up with a black screen after suspend. how do i go about debugging this?
[06:51] <OerHeks> hstl i think mint is slow
[06:52] <TsakNorris> Triffid_Hunter: Ok i do some reading now :) thanks
[06:52] <ducasse> hstl: if you want to get support here, use ubuntu.
[06:52] <hstl> OerHeks, thank you
[06:52] <hstl> ducasse, i don't need support. I just don't have time to install, reinstall it.
[06:52] <OerHeks> nikola_i, check 1. changing to tty1 and back to tty 7, does it show up? ctrl alt F1 > ctrl alt F7
[06:53] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[06:53] <hstl> Compare them and etc.
[06:53] <nikola_i> OerHeks: it doesn't allow me to change ttys
[06:53] <nikola_i> just black screen
[06:53] <hstl> I use Debian + Fluxbox. I need it for other people
[06:53] <OerHeks> hstl, you do that, compae them, t all depends ont he hardware, still i think mint is slower
[06:53] <hstl> OerHeks, ok
[06:54] <yoshimitsu_alt> hstl : the quickiest is salix
[06:55] <ikonia> they are all the same
[06:55] <ikonia> they are all the same disto just configured differently
[06:55] <ikonia> you can get the same performance out of all of them, depending on how you configure them
[06:55] <ikonia> this "quickest" stuff is just not real
[06:56] <yoshimitsu_alt> ok yes just a little bit
[06:56] <ikonia> no, not a little bit
[06:56] <ikonia> at all
[06:57] <OerHeks> hstl, make a chart of each one:   systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg
[06:57] <OerHeks> but that is just boot
[06:57] <yoshimitsu_alt> i use ubuntu with openbox but salix is quick with xfce has the same speed
[06:57] <ikonia> so pointles
[06:58] <ikonia> yoshimitsu_alt: so basically - a poitnless comment
[06:58] <ikonia> because "they are both the same"
[06:58] <hstl> yoshimitsu_alt, did you use Salix with fluxbox or Openbox?
[06:58] <ikonia> not interested in salix discussion here pleaes
[06:58] <ikonia> ubuntu discussion only
[06:58] <pepetronic> hi
[06:58] <yoshimitsu_alt> oki
[06:58] <hstl> if it is fully preconfigured - it can be very good. I run fluxbox myself. It is very fast
[06:58] <Mrokii> Hello guys. I hava a serious problem with kubuntu, but possibly somebody can still point me to the correct solution...
[06:59] <hstl> ikonia, ok
[06:59] <ikonia> Mrokii: people can' help unless you ask the question/explain the problem
[06:59] <diverdude> Hi, I am trying to mount cifq shares using /etc/fstab.... for some reason nothing is being mounted though. No error message is printed when i try to mount. Is there any way i can display error messages? I have tried with --verbose
[06:59] <Mrokii> After rebooting and trying to log in I got the error message: "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments (2); falling back to default session". Any thoughts?
[06:59] <ikonia> diverdude: do you mean cifs ?
[06:59] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: I just saw that error in the #kubuntu channel
[07:00] <ikonia> Mrokii: what did you change
[07:00]  * OerHeks is reading same questions in #linux too
[07:00] <Mrokii> ikonia: I'
[07:00] <ikonia> ughhh really
[07:00] <ikonia> cross-posting
[07:00] <diverdude> ikonia, sorry, yes. cifs
[07:00] <ikonia> diverdude: where are you trying to mount it
[07:00] <Mrokii> ikonia: I'm not sure. Nothing essential. Possibly some system-upgrades as I have been running the system for a few days or maybe even weeks.
[07:00] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: Yeah, I thought I
[07:01] <diverdude> ikonia, I am trying to mount to /mnt/A0-Data1
[07:01] <ikonia> diverdude: what happens if you do "sudo mount /mnt/A0-Data1"
[07:01] <ikonia> Mrokii: seems unlikley
[07:01] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: Yeah, I thought I'd ask here as well, as usually in #kubuntu there seems to be far fewer people.
[07:01] <ikonia> Mrokii: an update would not change the startup config like that
[07:01] <ikonia> Mrokii: look in your xsession-errors file
[07:02] <Mrokii> ikonia: Could it be something in one of the .bash* files? Somebody on the net mentioned that he prevented .bashrc from loading, but that didn't help in my case.
[07:02] <ikonia> it should show you it trying to start whatever it's trying to start
[07:02] <Mrokii> ikonia: I'll have a look, one moment.
[07:02] <ikonia> Mrokii: that "he" prevented ?
[07:02] <ikonia> what do you mean by prevented and who is he
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Why would someone tell you to not load the .bashrc?
[07:02] <ikonia> Mrokii: what have you changed
[07:03] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: It's just a suggestion I found on another site.
[07:03] <ikonia> Mrokii: what have you changed exactly
[07:03] <diverdude> ikonia, then it just writes "mount: Operation now in Progress"
[07:04] <ikonia> diverdude: and it just hangs and never returns to a prompt ?
[07:04] <Mrokii> ikonia: Well, the only error message in xsession-errors (besides) the one I mentioned is that some command found in .bash_login couldn't be loaded. Nothing essential, I think it was a script somebody wrote which I included, but I think which I may have deleted. Could that be a problem?
[07:04] <diverdude> ikonia, it does return to prompt
[07:04] <ikonia> Mrokii: what command
[07:04] <ikonia> diverdude: is you go into that directory, what's there
[07:04] <diverdude> ikonia, then its just empty
[07:05] <Mrokii> ikonia: Some script somebody wrote. It's called "today" and I think it loaded and displayed the current date or something like that.
[07:05] <ikonia> Mrokii: "a script" that "someone" wrote - you don't know what it does and you deleted it.....yeah, I think that may have somethin to do with it magically breaking
[07:05] <ikonia> diverdude: can I have a look at the fstab line please ?
[07:05] <diverdude> ikonia, its here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22285276/
[07:05] <Mrokii> ikonia: I can try to comment the line out and try a reboot.
[07:05] <ikonia> Mrokii: what line ?
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Reboot? Or just logout and login again..??
[07:06] <ikonia> diverdude: so my imediate guess is that it can't talk to the server, mount is normally so quick you don't see anything, but you're seeing "mount: Operation now in Progress" means something is slowing it down
[07:07] <ikonia> diverdude: normally something like that is because it's waiting for a response from the server,
[07:07] <ikonia> but normally - you'd get an error if there is no comms at all there
[07:07] <diverdude> ikonia, hmmm yeah you are right...i also cannot ping the server
[07:07] <Mrokii> ikonia: the error message in xsession-errors says that it couldn't find this in ".bash_login": "today: command not found".
[07:08] <ikonia> couldn't find "what"
[07:08] <ikonia> Mrokii: you're not supplying info at all
[07:08] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Get rid of the line or whatever that is looking for the ".bash_login"
[07:09] <Mrokii> ikonia: the line is like this (translated from German): "/home/my_user_name/.bash_login: Line 310: today: command not found."
[07:09] <OerHeks> diverdude, is uname your valid username ??? username=uname
[07:09] <diverdude> OerHeks, no i just masked the real username
[07:10] <Mrokii> The next line (no error message) is "Xsession: X session started for stephan at ..." (Date is shown).
[07:10] <OerHeks> oke, just wondering
[07:11] <Mrokii> ikonia: And the last line in the xsession_error-file is the error message I mentioned at first, the one with the unsupported number of arguments.
[07:11] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Is it not easy enough to just go and comment out/remove/delete all that has been done - instead of wasting the energy in trying to put a bandage on it?
[07:12] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: Sure it is. I just wasn't sure what was causing the error when I asked. If that line in .bash_login could be a problem I will try that.
[07:13] <OerHeks> meybe you are missing -t filesystemtype before cifs .. not sure about that
[07:13] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Rename the ".bash_login" to something else - unless you're specifically running bash scrcipts on login...which I highly doubt...
[07:14] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: Yeah, I'll try that and see if it works.
[07:14] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder, ikonia: Thanks for now.
[07:16] <ma__rc> guys, please help me feeling less stupid... why does a dist-upgrade not take me from 16.04.1 to 16.04.5? -.-''
[07:17] <OerHeks> ma__rc, it will .. in a few years
[07:17] <OerHeks> 16.04 is current
[07:17] <OerHeks> c/16.04.1 is current
[07:18] <Mrokii> ikonia, YankDownUnder: It was definitely something in .bash_login. After renaming it, I was able to log in again. Thank you very much.
[07:18] <OerHeks> !pm | ma__rc
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> Mrokii: Look through that file and find out what the issue was, mate - and NEVER just randomly let strangers tell you to modify your login, whoa...bad news that, very bad news...
[07:19] <hightech> come to #gotskillz
[07:19] <OerHeks> hightech, please don't spam, thanks
[07:19] <Mrokii> ikonia, YankDownUnder: Although it seems that there are still problems. Kubuntu doesn't load properly. But I'll try a restart and see if that helps anything.
[07:19] <hightech> ok i wont, just come to #gotskillz
[07:20] <Mrokii> YankDownUnder: It wasn't a stranger by the way, but a good friend, who isn't available at the moment.
[07:20] <Mrokii> Anyhow, need to reboot. Bye for now.
[07:44] <allamoox> Good morning
[07:46] <hstl> allamoox, hi ^^
[07:46]  * YankDownUnder checks his watch, checks the computer's clock, the clock on the wall, the alarm clock, the clock on the phone
[07:46] <Journalists> How do I access hardware information about my system in Ubuntu?
[07:46] <allamoox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22288068/
[07:47] <allamoox> any one can help me with this "held broken package error"
[07:47] <YankDownUnder> allamoox: Where are you getting the error - are you in the terminal?
[07:48] <allamoox> and this is the sourcelist http://paste.ubuntu.com/22288145/
[07:48] <OerHeks> Journalists, lshw lspci lsusb lscpu dmidecode are tools to view hardware
[07:48] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  Yes...
[07:48] <Journalists> So do I have to install tools to get access to my own hardware information?
[07:48] <YankDownUnder> allamoox: In the terminal, can you type: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update
[07:48] <ikonia> you have mixed your repos
[07:48] <ikonia> you cant mix trusty and xenial
[07:49] <ikonia> you're box is screwed
[07:49] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  doing it..
[07:49] <allamoox> ikonia:  do u think this is the problem?
[07:49] <ikonia> I know it's the poblem
[07:49] <ikonia> you can't mix repos like that
[07:49] <ikonia> you're box is screwed
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> allamoox: MATE, stop - ikonia stated - cuz he actually looked at your pastbin - that your sources are mixed up
[07:50] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  ok I will ...
[07:50] <OerHeks> Journalists, no, open terminal: lspci
[07:50] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  let me try to edit my source list then upgrade and update
[07:50] <OerHeks> they are all there
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> allamoox: So then that begs to question - what version of Ubuntu are you running???
[07:50] <ikonia> allamoox: you can't do that
[07:51] <ikonia> allamoox: the damage is already done
[07:51] <allamoox> ikonia: Damage must be restored
[07:51] <ikonia> allamoox: you can't just remove the wrong repo and expect it to start working, you've already installed conflicts
[07:51] <ikonia> allamoox: damage is done
[07:51] <allamoox> YankDownUnder:  Description:	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:51] <allamoox> Codename:	xenial
[07:51] <ikonia> allamoox: why is there trusty repos in there ?
[07:51] <ikonia> if you're running 16.04
[07:51] <ikonia> why is "main" set to trusty
[07:52] <YankDownUnder> Far out...
[07:52] <ikonia> you can't be running 16.04
[07:52] <ikonia> you've got universe on xenial and main on trust
[07:52] <allamoox> ikonia:  which command I need to write then?
[07:52] <allamoox> I tried lsb_release -a
[07:53] <allamoox> and It gave me this
[07:53] <allamoox> OS             : Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:53] <allamoox> Kernel         : 2.6.32-042stab111.12
[07:54] <YankDownUnder> Kerne 2.6? Um...
[07:54] <ducasse> allamoox: do yourself a favor and reinstall
[07:54] <OerHeks> allamoox, that cannot be true. such mix of repos, and strange sources, time to reinstall
[07:54] <allamoox> It has many users.. so I cant risk it
[07:54] <ComMan> people i am trying to navigate to a connected HDD using the temtminal, how can i cd into a USB connected HDD?
[07:54] <somsip> !info libnet-amazon-ec2-perl
[07:54] <Journalists> OerHeks, what does the command you told me do?
[07:55] <allamoox> Can u thiink of any alternative option?
[07:55] <ducasse> allamoox: you can't risk using it either
[07:55] <OerHeks> Journalists, it shows the PCI but, with attached devices
[07:55] <allamoox> but It should be  a solution guys
[07:55] <OerHeks> c/bus
[07:55] <ducasse> allamoox: yes, reinstall
[07:55] <ducasse> allamoox: it's horribly broken
[07:55] <OerHeks> Journalists, see ' man lspci ´
[07:56] <allamoox> ducasse:  but every thing will be gone ... if i reinstalled
[07:56] <OerHeks> allamoox, i don't believe it says 16.04, as you NEVER ever could upgrade to 16.04 with that sourceslist
[07:57] <allamoox> OerHeks:  so how does it say so?
[07:57] <ducasse> allamoox: backup your data first, then reinstall os and applications, restore data.
[07:57] <allamoox> any one interested to have an ssh access and have a look
[07:57] <allamoox> ?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> Journalists, did you get a response yet
[07:58] <djc_> Hi just setting up Ubuntu 14.04 server for the first time. Should an SSH Keys be generated
[07:59] <cfhowlett> djc_, might want to ask the experts:  #ubuntu-server
[07:59] <djc_> thanks
[07:59] <jacks> hi, i heard someone mention a daemon which can negotiate on-the-fly transparent encryption of various networking protocols.. anyone know its name or something similar?
[07:59] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:59] <OerHeks> djc_, pretty guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[08:02] <djc_> I see
[08:03] <allamoox> ducasse:  any good link easy to understand about backup ur files?
[08:03] <allamoox> as im very lost in this errors
[08:03] <ducasse> !backup | allamoox
[08:04] <allamoox> !cloning
[08:10] <sallu> anyone here
[08:10] <sallu> :(
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> It's dinner time...hmm...
[08:10] <ikonia> allamoox: is this a VPS ?
[08:10] <ikonia> allamoox: a vm from some cloud provider
[08:11] <sallu> YankDownUnder, ok
[08:11] <sallu> YankDownUnder, i sent you pm
[08:12] <ducasse> sallu: yes, there are people here. just ask your question.
[08:13] <allamoox> ikonia: its Vps
[08:14] <ikonia> allamoox: ok - need a %100 honest answer here, don't be scared to be honest
[08:14] <ikonia> allamoox: did you try to upgrade this ? did you change the sources.list ?
[08:14] <allamoox> ikonia:  I dont know if any of the admins mess with source.list but Im trying to investigate it
[08:15] <ikonia> allamoox: ok - so the reason I ask this, is because you cannot upgrade this vps
[08:15] <ikonia> allamoox: look at the kernel - it's coming from the hypervisor,
[08:15] <allamoox> ikonia:  Correct I will ask my vps provider why it looks like this
[08:16] <ikonia> that was going to be my next question, is the image they are giving you screwed up
[08:17] <allamoox> ikonia:  No.. it would be a nice one.. but as I told you in the notice im still beginner
[08:17] <allamoox> so I have a bit difficulities investigating the problem
[08:17] <ikonia> allamoox: thats fine, as long as you answer questions honestly we can help
[08:18] <allamoox> ikonia:  I answer very honestly
[08:18] <ikonia> allamoox: the two things you need to know here are a.) is the image the cloud provider gives you broken b.) has some other user tried to upgrade this badly
[08:18] <allamoox> u can whoise me to be sure of what I told u
[08:18] <allamoox> ikonia:  no the provider gave me a decent image
[08:19] <ikonia> allamoox: are you %101 sure of that
[08:19] <allamoox> YEs 10000% sure
[08:19] <ikonia> how are you %100 sure ?
[08:19] <allamoox> because the vps was working very normal for more thank 7 months
[08:19] <ikonia> define working
[08:19] <allamoox> It works eaisly and smoothly
[08:19] <ikonia> it could have been broken from day 1 you've just not hit a conflicting package
[08:20] <ikonia> allamoox: can you do ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list please
[08:20] <allamoox> I neveer gave me errors
[08:20] <ikonia> lets look at the date stamp of that file
[08:20] <allamoox> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 53 Aug  5 09:52 /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <ikonia> ahrc333ff: someone has modified it today ?
[08:20] <allamoox> but I just opeened the files today
[08:20] <ikonia> opening it won't change the date stamp
[08:20] <ikonia> modifying it will
[08:20] <fakechek> guys, would anybody be willing to quickly help with setting up ubuntu as a docker container? I dont want it to autologin as root, but dont know how to change it
[08:20] <allamoox> yes ikonia I did .... when u told me u have a mixed repos
[08:21] <ikonia> allamoox: thats a shame
[08:21] <allamoox> ikonia:  no shame no gain
[08:21] <allamoox> I wanna learn
[08:21] <ikonia> allamoox: do you have other VPS's from the same login
[08:21] <ikonia> allamoox: you're not learning
[08:21] <allamoox> what do u mean other vpss from same login?
[08:21] <allamoox> same supplier you mean
[08:21] <ikonia> allamoox: sorry, do you have any other VPS's from the same provider,
[08:22] <allamoox> yes'
[08:22] <ikonia> allamoox: ok, can you look at the sources.list on one of them ?
[08:22] <allamoox> I got a different vps with debian
[08:22] <allamoox> no Its debian
[08:22] <allamoox> not ubuntu
[08:22] <ikonia> no
[08:22] <ikonia> ok, so we can't work out what's happened
[08:23] <ducasse> allamoox: have you got backups you can look at?
[08:23] <allamoox> ducasse: no
[08:26] <allamoox> can I install new OS with out formation the hard, like windows
[08:26] <ikonia> allamoox: no
[08:26] <ikonia> allamoox: backup any data you want to keep
[08:27] <allamoox> ok last question now ..
[08:27] <allamoox> I will back my data but
[08:27] <allamoox> I have roughly 50 users
[08:28] <allamoox> do I need to add them manualy again
[08:28] <ikonia> how else do you expect them to be there on a new machine ?
[08:28] <allamoox> by /etc/passwd
[08:28] <alligatorjoe> Hello
[08:28] <allamoox> thats the file has all users
[08:28] <ikonia> you want to copy the password and shadow file ?
[08:28] <allamoox> yes
[08:28] <ikonia> allamoox: while technically possible, I advise against it
[08:29] <allamoox> ok I will try a bit more of tricks to fix my ubuntu if it didnot help i will just reinstall
[08:29] <allamoox> Thank you ikonia , very helpfull
[08:29] <allamoox> thank you guys ! very helpfull
[08:30] <photon> hello
[08:30] <Xatenev> Heya
[08:30] <OerHeks> i would give them all the same password, and with 'sudo chage -d 0 foo' they need to change it themselves @ 1st login
[08:30] <sk_> good morning people :)
[08:30] <Xatenev> when i do locate file.xyz
[08:30] <Xatenev> how cna I say "vim locatedFile" ?
[08:30] <ikonia> vim `locate file.xyz`
[08:31] <Xatenev> Ok that was damn easy
[08:31] <Xatenev> I love you
[08:31] <Xatenev> xD
[08:31] <sk_> i want to copy a file, i need sudo for it, so i tried the terminal
[08:32] <sk_> sudo cp cudnn.h ~/Downloads/cuda/include /user
[08:32] <sk_> tells me "is not a directory"
[08:32] <Xatenev> ikonia: that doesnt work.
[08:32] <ikonia> thats 3 arguments
[08:32] <ikonia> Xatenev: it won't if there are multiple output
[08:32] <ducasse> Xatenev: ` not '
[08:32] <Xatenev> vim $(locate filename)
[08:32] <Xatenev> that works.
[08:32] <Xatenev> I just had one output
[08:32] <alligatorjoe> Is crocodile lilly here today?
[08:32] <Xatenev> it opened some random file Idk
[08:32] <Xatenev> some empty file
[08:33] <ikonia> alligatorjoe: stop messing around please
[08:33] <Triffid_Hunter> sk_: that would happen if /user is a file, but you're trying to copy a file and a directory there
[08:33] <sk_> oh, what did i do wrong, or how can i do it right?
[08:33] <sk_> i wanna copy that file cudnn
[08:33] <ikonia> sk_: sudo cp cudnn.h ~/Downloads/cuda/include
[08:34] <ikonia> sk_: that is the command
[08:34] <ikonia> sk_: no idea why you put /user on the end
[08:34] <sk_> thats where i want it to copy it ?
[08:34] <sk_> i thought it goes like
[08:34] <ikonia> sk_: where do you want to copy it
[08:34] <sk_> file origin destination
[08:34] <sk_> i thought it had 3 arguments
[08:34] <ikonia> sk_: where is the path you want to copy it to
[08:35] <sk_> hm doesnt send
[08:35] <seek> so my friend cant boot in to grub so he can fix his black screen does anyone have any tips?
[08:35] <sk_> its /user/local/cuda-8.0
[08:35] <ikonia> sk_: is that where it is, or where you want it to be
[08:36] <sk_> where i wanna copy it to
[08:36] <ikonia> sk_: ok, so "sudo cp cudnn.h /user/local/cuda-8.0"
[08:37] <alligatorjoe> Is crocodile lilly here today?
[08:37] <sk_> ikon
[08:37] <sk_> i have to be in the right dir then right ?
[08:38] <gtkminh> hello
[08:38] <ikonia> sk_: "sudo cp /where/the/file/is/filename /where/you/want/the/file/to/go"
[08:38] <gtkminh> i am a new ubuntu
[08:42] <seek> my friends grub menu will not load wehn he boots then he changed it to =10 and it still dont work
[08:45] <cfhowlett> gtkminh, ask your ubuntu question
[08:51] <nickar> Hi. I've installed 16.04 LTS and the networking was all working fine. I booted the pc last night and the network adapter isn't connecting any more. It's dual booted with windows using UEFI (it had been using BIOS and also worked fine) and the windows partition has no problems connecting. I'm very new to linux, can anyone tell me where my first steps for tracking down the problem would be?
[08:52] <nickar> I've tried restarting the network service as well as disabling ipv6. using a boot disc also results in no network connection so I'm not certain a reinstall would help either
[08:56] <YankDownUnder> nickar: So networking was "fine" - and now it's not. Yes? Is this a laptop or a desktop?
[08:56] <nickar> desktop
[08:56] <YankDownUnder> nickar: And is the card a wifi or an ethernet?
[08:57] <nickar> ethernet via the motherboard
[08:57] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Fair enough. Since the point at which it was working - and now - has anything been changed/moved/installed/uninstalled since?
[08:58] <nickar> on my windows partition, yes, I installed some drivers. nothing on the linux partition that I can remember
[08:58] <YankDownUnder> nickar:  Drivers for....?
[08:58] <nickar> motherboard, it was a fresh install
[08:59] <YankDownUnder> Drivers for the motherboard - and that being said, the drivers that are for the motherboard can and sometimes will make direct changes that affect how the hardware operations...hmm...
[09:00] <nickar> ah, that's really annoying. i didn't realise the windows partition could do much to harm ubuntu
[09:00] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Right oh...have you been in the BIOS to double-check all the settings and configurations pertaining to the network card and other network functionality?
[09:01] <nickar> i can do that right now, i haven't changed settings myself but I can have a look
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> It's not the fact that it's "Windows" - it's merely the fact that a "driver" that affects the "system" were installed...doesn't matter if it was in Windows, MacOS or linux...
[09:01] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Make sure that PXE boot is turned off - and "Wake on LAN" is turned off - and as well - if you have "serial/COM" ports setup in the BIOS. turn them off as well...hmm?
[09:02] <nickar> ok, i'll have a hunt for those settings
[09:02] <ducasse> nickar: are you booted in ubuntu now?
[09:02] <nickar> i have just booted to my bios
[09:03] <nickar> I can go back to ubuntu quickly if needed
[09:03] <umatrangolo> Hi
[09:03] <umatrangolo> 1 2 3 you hear me ??? :)
[09:04] <ducasse> nickar: check the bios while you're at it, no hurry
[09:04] <nickar> I'm in the bios and the only network option i can find is something called the 'uefi network stack'. this is disabled
[09:04] <YankDownUnder> ducasse: He might check the BIOS when he's checking the BIOS...(pun truly intended) - that's where I sent him originally...
[09:05] <YankDownUnder> nickar: There is NOTHING else - anywhere? Not in advanced settings or anything like that? Nothing?
[09:06] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: i meant 'while you are already there' :)
[09:06] <nickar> That's the only thing I can find. I'll just dive through the manual to make sure.
[09:07] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Um...is there nothing that is apparently apparent?
[09:08] <nickar> not that I can see. I have just switched from BIOS legacy mode to UEFI (hence the fresh windows install) but the network was working fine for ubuntu after that.
[09:08] <nickar> until just now anyway
[09:08] <YankDownUnder> Not very clear about that "until just now" bit...hmm...
[09:09] <nickar> sorry, until last night when the ethernet connection stopped working
[09:09] <nickar> ok, the PXE setting only comes up when you have the UEFI stack enabled. so I think by having it disabled, which it is, PXE is also disabled
[09:10] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Does the ethernet connect if you switch back to legacy mode? And something else to try, was that you said "UEFI Network Stack" was disabled - does the system work with it enabled?
[09:10] <nickar> i'll try both, give me a sec
[09:11] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Well, you have two things to try - the "Legacy" boot and also chaning the "UEFI Network Stack" to see if you can get the network working...
[09:11] <nickar> yes, i'll try them separately
[09:11] <OerHeks> nickar, windows 10? fastboot enabled? that could prevent this too, hijacking Ethernet/wifi
[09:12] <multifractal> I am having some trouble with nvidia/cuda on 14.04. Sounds exactly like this problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/690282/ubuntu-14-04-lts-freezes-after-bbswitch-succesfully-loaded-discrete-card-0000
[09:12] <nickar> fastboot is disabled, all the horror stories i read about fastboot made me disable it immediately
[09:12] <OerHeks> oke
[09:12] <multifractal> But I don't really understand what ACPI and bumblebee are...
[09:13] <admin0> i have a repo where all packages start with s apecific word .. like packageabc-  and have 2 versions available .. 7 and 8 .. how do I pin all packages to only 7
[09:13] <admin0> so that version 8 is not installed
[09:13] <OerHeks> ACPI is powermanagment
[09:14] <OerHeks> bumblebee (old, prime is current) is the switch between intel and 2nd GPU
[09:15] <multifractal> I think I get this problem because when I installed CUDA I forgot to "blacklist" nouveau - whatever this means. I have since performed this step and have managed to boot. But I don't UNDERSTAND what I did. Could someone explain like I'm 5?
[09:15] <nickar> Enabling the stack has done it. That's really strange. Next time I'm struggling I'll make sure that I fiddle with the settings more, it was my assumption that windows couldn't change anything but I was wrong. Thank you for your help Oerheks, YankDownUnder and ducasse
[09:15] <nickar> Now to keep trying to get these stupid nVidia drivers working, any sort of hardware acceleration with chrome is freezing my system.
[09:16] <YankDownUnder> nickar: Peace, be well.
[09:18] <ikonia> !pinning | admin0
[09:23] <Guest15118> hello
[09:23] <admin0> thanks .. solved :)
[09:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:06] <astrill_> yo
[10:07] <astrill_> is anyone up?
[10:07] <astrill_> that can help me with something
[10:08] <ducasse> !ask | astrill_
[10:09] <astrill_> ok well i need help with the Grub menu and it wont open when i Shut off my computer and Hod shift it wont open
[10:09] <astrill_> hold*
[10:10] <TsakNorris> im connected as a admin to server with SSH. but vlc gives me errors. permission denied etc.
[10:11] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: "xhost +" on your local system, and did you ssh -Y?
[10:11] <hournyoud> Triffid_Hunter: ?
[10:12] <TsakNorris> nope i didn't use -Y and xhost + gives - access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[10:12] <Triffid_Hunter> TsakNorris: after xhost+, you should be able to forward over ssh -Y
[10:14] <TsakNorris> Triffid_Hunter: i did connect now with -Y but still same problem
[10:16] <ducasse> TsakNorris: pastebin the full output.
[10:22] <TsakNorris> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22297943/
[10:25] <ducasse> TsakNorris: you're trying to use direct rendering over ssh, not going to work.
[10:25] <kamild1996> Hey, not sure if that's a right place to ask but right now I have GRUB running on my PC, with Windows 8 and Ubuntu. I'd like to try out and install Windows 10 as a third OS. How will GRUB behave? I think Windows will replace it, if so, how to bring it back?
[10:26] <ducasse> !grub | kamild1996
[10:27] <kamild1996> Thanks ducasse, so GRUB will be fine with two different Windows instances?
[10:27] <titan_> Hello Friends!!
[10:28] <ducasse> kamild1996: i've never tried, but it should work fine if you follow that guide.
[10:28] <titan_> Can anybody tell how to restore my old wifi drivers??
[10:28] <OerHeks> kamild1996, likely windows 10 wipes the grub from mbr, so after install, you need to install grub again with the grub manual
[10:29] <OerHeks> !grub
[10:29] <kamild1996> Oh yeah OerHeks I heard about Anniversary Update removing partitions it doesn't recognize. Any way to try and prevent that?
[10:30] <OerHeks> kamild1996, i have no info about that
[10:30] <titan_> Can anybody tell how to restore my old wifi drivers??
[10:30] <kamild1996> hmm alright, I'll ask at #windows, thank you
[10:30] <titan_> OerHeks: Any ideas how to restore the wifi drivers?
[10:30] <nickar> out of interest, why are you installing 2 windows partitions?
[10:30] <ducasse> !patience | titan_
[10:30] <OerHeks> titan_, if wifi drivers are not showing up in the driver menu, what old driver are you pointing at?
[10:31] <titan_> OerHeks: I used to have a old driver which was fine, now i think it got updated and its disconnecting every hour or so
[10:31] <kamild1996> nickar, I have Windows 8 right now and I'm having some weird issues with it, like the generic GPU driver not working (hence reinstalling/removing drivers is impossible). I'd like to see if that's the case on Windows 10, to see if it's my hardware playing with me, or just Windows being Windows.
[10:31] <Ascavasaion> So I get notified that 16.0x LTS is available.  I ran the upgrade, it ran okay but on first reboot it does not work.  boots to a point but now has the Lubuntu bootup screen and that is as far as it goes.  Any ideas?
[10:32] <nickar> kamild1996 gpu drivers are my nemesis at the moment! good luck
[10:32] <hournyoud> nickar:
[10:32] <kamild1996> So either Windows 10 will be gone after a while, or I move to 10 and get rid of 8.1. Thanks :)
[10:33] <titan_> OerHeks: I just want to revert back my drivers
[10:34] <titan_> OerHeks: Is there a system wide reset in ubuntu?
[10:34] <OerHeks> tatertots, there is no restore, like in windows..
[10:35] <goudkov> i'm on an intel cpu, using kernel 4.2.0 on 14.04. i have intel_pstate=disable in cmd line, but i7z still shows cpu frequency lower when idle. is there any other place i need to look into?
[10:35] <OerHeks> oeps tatertots , >> titan
[10:35] <Ascavasaion> So I get notified that 16.0x LTS is available.  I ran the upgrade, it ran okay but on first reboot it does not work.  boots to a point but now has the Lubuntu bootup screen and that is as far as it goes.  Any ideas?  I dropped to a terminal and it says "A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes up (1h 53min 30s / no limit).    Ubuntu sucks
[10:39] <Ascavasaion> hehehehehe
[10:39] <OerHeks> titan_, oh, that is a troublemaker, for long time..
[10:39] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/635625/realtek-8723be-wifi-problem
[10:39] <nickar> yeah, i got the same
[10:39] <OerHeks> Ascavasaion, please report in #ubuntu-ops
[10:41] <titan_> OerHeks: Yep, I even filed a bug , But now after the new installation ,it worked flawless for quite some time, I think after a update it started breaking
[10:41] <titan_> OerHeks: That is the reason I was asking for a rollback
[10:42] <titan_> nickar: Are you having issues with xernial?
[10:42] <OerHeks> titan_, i don't think you can roll back the driver. did you even try the options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N swenc=Y msi=1 options??
[10:42] <OerHeks> and  removing Windows 10 fastboot
[10:43] <titan_> OerHeks: removed fastboot long back, will try changing options, if you dont mind , how do i change the options :-)
[10:44] <nickar> titan_ i'm having problems with chrome and hardware acceleration. seems the kernel is missing modules for my graphics card
[10:44] <titan_> nickar: Xernial skipped native amd graphics drivers, have a look in omgubuntu.co.uk
[10:45] <nickar> what about nvidia?
[10:45] <OerHeks> titan_, see that url,  /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> titan_  pastebin the output of this line ... journalctl --boot|grep -i gpu
[10:45] <OerHeks> nickar, nvidia > sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[10:45] <nickar> OerHeks danke schon
[10:46] <ducasse> titan_: xenial didn't skip them, amd stopped making them.
[10:46] <titan_> ducasse: yep, sry for the wrong communication
[10:46] <ducasse> titan_: no problem :)
[10:47] <nickar> nothing new installed. whenever i try to change the window size in chrome with hardware acceleration turned on i get a freeze. it's weird. firefox seems fine with life though
[10:48] <titan_> OerHeks: MonkeyDust I actually tried a lot, have a look at https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/104
[10:48] <titan_> that was me doing all kinds of wierd experments
[10:48] <OerHeks> again, that chipset is a troublemaker
[10:49] <titan_> OerHeks: Yeah :-(
[10:49] <spcstn> hi
[10:50] <titan_> OerHeks: but , the only ray of hope I have is that it worked fine in the start, so I need to use those, I had unsupported updates enabled
[10:50] <titan_> So I think someting got updated and broke my wifi :(
[10:50] <ducasse> titan_: you're using -proposed?
[10:50] <OerHeks> titan_, you can check the dpkg log if that happened, i guess it uses the same driver
[10:51] <titan_> ducasse: no, just Unsupported, just tickked it off
[10:53] <ducasse> titan_: ah, backports. that should be empty now, i'd guess.
[10:53] <titan_> ducasse: So, what do backports mean?
[10:53] <OerHeks> deselecting unsupported (backports)  does not reverse packages
[10:53] <titan_> oh,okay
[10:54] <Triffid_Hunter> goudkov: sudo 'echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor' or similar, not sure where to put that for it to happen during boot in ubuntu
[10:54] <titan_> so....how do i reverse?
[10:55] <ducasse> titan_: there shouldn't be anything in backports, it's for backporting newer packages from later releases.
[10:57] <ducasse> titan_: wait, there are a few packages there, but nothing that should affect wifi. nor are backports automatically installed.
[10:59] <OerHeks> i told you to check the dpkg log, don't go wander around blindly
[11:03] <Riply> hey guys - I'm looking to add a fresh Ubuntu server to a windows AD. There seems to be a lot of dated stuff on the web. Does anyone have a recommendation for what I can use? The server is in the cloud - I've setup natting for the AD to a public IP and can ping it / telnet on 53 etc etc just can't seem to get it to add to the domain
[11:04] <titan_> OerHeks: Hey, just changed the wifi card options, my wifi failed completly
[11:04] <titan_> had to empty the config file to get it working back again
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Riply  there's also #ubuntu-server
[11:06] <Riply> Thanks MonkeyDust (:
[11:09] <OerHeks> Firefox 48 is out
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> FF 47 here
[11:12] <Ascavasaion> So I get notified that 16.0x LTS is available.  I ran the upgrade, it ran okay but on first reboot it does not work.  boots to a point but now has the Lubuntu bootup screen and that is as far as it goes.  Any ideas?  I dropped to a terminal and it says "A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes up (1h 53min 30s / no limit).  The time is ticking away merrily.
[11:13] <dellhem> Hey, how do I prevent Pidgin from autostarting at login? It's not an app setting and Pidgin is not in the OS autostart list.
[11:16] <DJones> dellhem: Don't if the last couple of comments in this link may have a solution, just checked mine and there's no autostart options https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1170726
[11:17] <leafybasil> Hai all, been googling but can't see any answers, I wanted to use scp/sftp/rsync for copying files to a server, but I wanted some restrictions on filesize/type serverside, can anyone point me at some suggestions/reading?
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> leafybasil  did you read the respective man pages
[11:19] <leafybasil> MonkeyDust: for scp/sftp I read manpages for sshd, nothing in there that I could see
[11:19] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: try removing 'quiet splash' from the grub command line to see where it hangs.
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> leafybasil  then i guess you need a script
[11:20] <leafybasil> MonkeyDust: for rsync I checked manpages but wasn't sure if theres other "daemons" to use
[11:20] <leafybasil> MonkeyDust: a serverside script that restricts upload?
[11:21] <dellhem> DJones: Thanks, but no references to pidgin anywhere.
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> leafybasil  or filters the file sizes
[11:22] <leafybasil> MonkeyDust: sorry this answer is a bit abstract, I don't really understand.  A script would need to run periodically and after the fact that files had been transferred?
[11:22] <ducasse> leafybasil: maybe the quota subsystem has something you can use, i'm not that familiar with it.
[11:22] <leafybasil> ducasse: sounds reasonable I'll start looking
[11:22] <leafybasil> I know old-school geocities-like hosts used to restrict file size
[11:22] <ducasse> leafybasil: the package is just called 'quota'
[11:22] <DJones> dellhem: Right, I can't really think of anything outside of the normal startup list, hopefully somebody else may be able to help.  There is also #pidgin on freenode, maybe somebody there would have an idea
[11:23] <dellhem> DJones: just asked there :)
[11:24] <leafybasil> ducasse: this could be just the ticket, thanks
[11:24] <OerHeks> isn't there a option in pidgin itself??
[11:25] <jamieshepherd> Hey. I have 2 node processes which depend on each other, want to run them in the background with something like "nodejs one.js &", but then if I do "nodejs two.js &" it cancels/exits the first one to run the second (ubuntu 16.04)_
[11:26] <OerHeks> use 'client login' <---- disable this
[11:32] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: How do I get to a terminal.  I tried choosing Recovery in Grub, it boots, then I choose Root terminal.  but while I am working there in nano it just kicks out and goes back to recovery menu.
[11:33] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: probably because the root fs is read only, 'mount -o rw,remount /' but you can also just edit the command line from the grub menu.
[11:36] <stock> hi
[11:37] <stock> i'm on ubuntu 14.04  and get strange SSL error when visiting c-span and washingtonpost.com
[11:37] <stock> urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 1] _ssl.c:510: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure>
[11:38] <stock> it seems OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 is still running with a patch called openssl-1.0.2-disable-sslv2v3.patch
[11:38] <stock> that patch should be removed
[11:39] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Okay, got the quiet splash thing off... update-grub run... rebooted.. and the line it is stopped on is "Started User Manager for UID 118"
[11:39] <stock> if you want SSLv3 to work
[11:41] <ducasse> stock: https://ma.ttias.be/rfc-7568-ssl-3-0-is-now-officially-deprecated/
[11:41] <astrill> can u guys help me i need help opening my Grub menu and it wont open
[11:41] <astrill> when i hold shift
[11:42] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: can you check who uid 118 is for?
[11:43] <stock> ducasse well not all major websites like c-span and washpost are of the same opinion ..
[11:44] <ducasse> stock: they are probably using it to support ancient browsers. it's wrong either way.
[11:44] <loganrun> my system won't boot after and upgrade to 16.04, it just comes up with the filesystem in read only mode
[11:44] <loganrun> does anyone know how to debug this
[11:44] <stock> ducasse actually the error i get is with a python bases tool youtube-dl
[11:45] <stock> based
[11:46] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: uid 118 = gdm
[11:46] <ducasse> stock: try the version from the official youtube-dl site, it is probably considerably newer. it's just a single script iirc.
[11:46] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: ok, then i would examine the gdm or x logs.
[11:47] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: hehe  You may as well have suggested I help get a man onto Mars :)
[11:48] <astrill> does someone know how to Fix the Blackscreen
[11:48] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: the x logs are in /var/log, i don't use gdm but assume they are there too. look for error messages :) pastebin them if unsure.
[11:49] <ducasse> astrill: i.e., /var/log/Xorg.0.log and maybe gdm.log or something similar.
[11:49] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: ^^
[11:49] <ducasse> astrill: sorry
[11:50] <astrill> ducasse: i need help with opening my Grub its not Opening when i Hold shift when i shut off my Computer
[11:50] <stock> well i did some work and disabled the openssl-1.0.2-disable-sslv2v3.patch inside a new version of openssl OpenSSL 1.0.2e and rebuild openssl, uograded python from 2.7.6 to 2.7.9 and then the same version of youtube-dl works perfect again
[11:51] <stock> at least no sslv3 alert handshake failure
[11:53] <Hoodedgryphon> Hello
[11:54] <loganrun> system boots in read only mode, does anyone have a clue how to solve this
[11:54] <loganrun> unless I explicity do mount -o remount,rw /
[11:55] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Okay,k thank you for the pointers...  what Is ee there mneans nothing to me.  I need to dash now... will try again another time :(  sigh... and all I did was a distro upgrade from 14 LTS to 16LTS
[11:55] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: i'm guessing there is a video driver problem if that helps
[11:56] <Ascavasaion> ducasse: Thank you.  You would think that if it ran with OOB drivers in 14, it should do thye same in 16.
[11:56] <ducasse> Ascavasaion: amd or nvidia?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> FWIW, there's this video bug ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1369216
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> and i read elsewhere, they're struggling with it in yakkety
[11:59] <Ascavasaion> MonkeyDust: Are you talking to me?
[11:59] <Ascavasaion> I guess not heheeh
[12:00] <Ascavasaion> Toodeloos
[12:00] <Ascavasaion> Ubuntu failed me again :(
[12:00] <aash> i have installed openvpn on my machine
[12:01] <aash> after that when i use this  openvpn vpnbook-euro2-tcp443.ovpn
[12:02] <aash> succesfully connected but not internet is not coming saying that
[12:02] <aash> Checking the proxy, firewall and DNS configuration
[12:03] <aash> an help
[12:03] <astrill> aash: what u need help with
[12:04] <aash> astrill: openvpn vpnbook-euro2-tcp443.ovpn this one to connect vpn its working fine but internet connecction losing
[12:05] <seek_> aash: it is normal it is becuase it is free if you were to buy a vps's then install it on there then you could do it
[12:05] <seek_> with out lagging
[12:06] <loganrun> found possible issue, does anyone know what should be in my fstab file on 16.04, I don't see anything about mount the root file system
[12:07] <aash> seek_: ok,but its saying "Checking the proxy, firewall and DNS configuration" any modifications need to do.?
[12:07] <Astrill> aash: Its Prolly Cause its not that good of a VPN I never had that Problem before with any Vpn so try to get a Better VPN or something
[12:07] <seek_> aash i have no idea sorry bro i will look into it for you tho
[12:09] <aash> Astrill: any open vpn source available?
[12:09] <seek_> aash: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006540
[12:10] <paul987> hi
[12:10] <seek_> aash: try ca
[12:10] <ikonia> so that guide is worthless
[12:10] <seek_> vpn connection
[12:10] <ikonia> it's from 2008 with signififantly different ubuntu version, configuration and tools than 2016
[12:10] <Astrill> aash: U are better off Buying a VPS Server and using it to Connect to OpenVPN it would be Much Easier plus u wont get No Lag Buy a VPS Server and Make it in to a VPN
[12:11] <adroit_machine> hi ikonia
[12:11] <seek_> ikonia its the one i used when i was testing ubuntu connection with vpn's
[12:12] <seek_> hey ikonia
[12:12] <bazhang> seek_, did yuo have an ubuntu support issue
[12:13] <bazhang> lets keep the chit chat out of here seek_
[12:13] <seek_> bazhang: yeah a cuple time
[12:13] <bazhang> seek_, then ask the channel, all on one line
[12:14] <aash> Astrill: ok,but its automatically configured ever thing."openvpn --config vpnbook-euro2-tcp443.ovpn"
[12:14] <seek_> my bad
[12:14] <Astrill> aash: it just might be Bad then Try a Better Location
[12:14] <Hoodedgryphon> Hello all
[12:15] <Hoodedgryphon> So I changed my mode to ahci in the BIOS
[12:15] <Hoodedgryphon> And now the computer doesn't start at all
[12:16] <Hoodedgryphon> Anyone here?
[12:17] <ubuntu_> Hello
[12:17] <Hoodedgryphon> Hi
[12:17] <Hoodedgryphon> I changed my disk mode to ahci and now it doesn't start
[12:19] <Tin_man> change it back
[12:24] <gtkminh> My os is 64 bite system, i cannot install applicaton 32 bite
[12:24] <gtkminh> what i to do?
[12:28] <gtkminh> I installed the 64bit, i want to install my applocations are 32bit, what i to do?
[12:30] <ikonia> gtkminh: really depends on the apps, as to how you approach it
[12:31] <generalzod007_> How do you join other channels
[12:31] <gtkminh> download and used terminal
[12:31] <redtuxedocash> i want to update my python, how to do it on terminal?
[12:31] <OerHeks> type /join <channelname>
[12:31] <ikonia> redtuxedocash: update from what to what
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> ikonia: version
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> old - latest
[12:32] <ikonia> redtuxedocash: from what to what
[12:32] <ikonia> yeah, "old - latest" doesn't cut it for me as an answer
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> version bro
[12:32] <Hoodedgryphon> Hey
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> there is an update for python version, and how do i update it?
[12:32] <bazhang> redtuxedocash, tell us the actual version numbers please
[12:32] <ikonia> version isn't an answer
[12:32] <redtuxedocash> python3.5
[12:33] <ikonia> not going to happen
[12:33] <bazhang> redtuxedocash, of ubuntu
[12:33] <OerHeks> redtuxedocash, 16.04 got 3.51 already
[12:34] <OerHeks> !info python3
[12:51]  * shrilaxmi is not at desk
[13:02] <kvmmm> cd rarlinux-x64-5.1.0
[13:02] <kvmmm> bash: cd: rarlinux-x64-5.1.0: No such file or directory
[13:02] <kvmmm> where can I find the directory?
[13:03] <OerHeks> ctrl f in your filebrowser to search
[13:03] <OerHeks> in ubuntu, that is
[13:03] <kvmmm> htanks
[13:09] <kvmmm> /home/k/rarlinux-x64-5.1.0.tar.gz
[13:09] <kvmmm> bash: cd: /home/k/rarlinux-x64-5.1.0.tar.gz: Not a directory
[13:09] <Pici> kvmmm: thats a file.
[13:09] <kvmmm> I'm trying to do this http://www.techbrown.com/install-rar-extractor-ubuntu-linux-mint-fedora.shtml
[13:10] <OerHeks> !info unrar
[13:10] <tatertots> any particular reason you're going about rar that way?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> kvmmm  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[13:11] <kvmmm> only way I know how
[13:11] <kvmmm> is there an easier way?
[13:11] <OerHeks> or p7zip-rar / p7zip / p7zip-full
[13:11] <kvmmm> that will let me open encrypted?
[13:11] <OerHeks> carefull with rar, it can do funny things :-D
[13:11] <kvmmm> so what should I do?
[13:11] <tatertots> 'sudo apt-get install unrar'
[13:12] <OerHeks> dunno, just use ubuntu ?
[13:12] <kvmmm> wow, super easy. thanks
[13:12] <kvmmm> that tutorial sucked
[13:12] <tatertots> is there a particular reason you're doing it the hard way?
[13:12] <Fr_Dae> tatertots -get aren't nessesary just apt with color and progress bar
[13:13] <DJones> kvmmm: Most apps you'll ever need can be installed using the official Ubuntu repositories
[13:13] <kvmmm> I couldn't find it in software center
[13:13] <ubuntu_> Hellon
[13:14] <tatertots> well now you should have unrar without going through all that stuff
[13:14] <Fr_Dae> kvmmm sudo apt install p7zip-full p7zip-rar
[13:14] <ubuntu_> *Hello, is anyone here willing to help some stupid? ^^
[13:14] <Fr_Dae> better
[13:14] <cfhowlett> !ask
[13:14] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ don't ask if you ca, ask, ASK !
[13:14] <Fr_Dae> thanks bot
[13:14] <ubuntu_> Oh Ok
[13:16] <ubuntu_> The problem is that i don't have one question, I need some to tell me how to compile from code source
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !compile | ubuntu_
[13:17] <tatertots> also dont skip over the README that's included in most source
[13:18] <_adb> is ubottu's source available?
[13:19] <DJones> !botclone | _adb
[13:19] <OerHeks> _adb, yes
[13:19] <_adb> thanks
[13:21] <ubuntu_> I don't how to do cause there are no "tar.gz tar.bz2" files
[13:21] <ducasse> ubuntu_: where did you get it?
[13:22] <ubuntu_> here: http://nlp.stanford.edu/projects/glove/
[13:22] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ > alien -k <file.tar.gz>
[13:23] <Fr_Dae> your tar.gz > .deb
[13:23] <Fr_Dae> double clic and install
[13:23] <ducasse> ubuntu_: there are instructions on that page, just follow them
[13:24] <ubuntu_> Could someone help me in private chat, I feel stupid with my questions
[13:24] <Fr_Dae> no question are stupide just people
[13:24] <Fr_Dae> =)
[13:24] <tatertots> dont feel stupid with any question
[13:24] <tatertots> just ask...we'll try to help
[13:24] <ducasse> ubuntu_: the page lists the steps you need to follow
[13:25] <ikonia> ubuntu_: keep the chat in public
[13:25] <ikonia> that way people can audit and stop bad advice
[13:25] <tatertots> another person might have the same question, so it kinda helps two fold to ask in the room
[13:28] <ubuntu_> Okay, but I really don't have any informatic basic knowledge. Might be annoying for you
[13:28] <cfhowlett> by now, you could have asked and answered your question --- talking ABOUT but not ASKING the questions is what's annoying. :)
[13:29] <BluesKaj_> informatic ? ...maybe you mean informative
[13:31] <ubuntu_> I guessed so, sorry. Basically I want that programm: http://nlp.stanford.edu/projects/glove/. And after unzipping files, I don't know what to do
[13:31] <ikonia> ubuntu_: have you read any of the information ?
[13:31] <tatertots> your next step is cd GloVe-1.2 && make
[13:32] <ikonia> is it ?
[13:32] <ikonia> is it really to just blindly type that
[13:32] <leafybasil> ducasse: looks like quotas works for file, but not directories, just FYI
[13:32] <ubuntu_> Just like that in terminal?
[13:32] <tatertots> then you run the demo script and then consult the readme as per the link
[13:33] <cfhowlett> you can run the demo script without doing the other steps
[13:33] <ducasse> leafybasil: ok, good to know. did it do what you needed?
[13:33] <leafybasil> ducasse: should the question arise again, it seems the best option is to create a virtual filesystem of desired max size, and then mount it
[13:33] <leafybasil> ducasse: a mixture of quotas + vfs will do, thanks :D
[13:34] <ducasse> leafybasil: great :)
[13:34] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ open a terminal (ctrl alt T) sudo alien -k <tar.gz localisation>
[13:35] <ubuntu130> hello! i'm trying to install ubuntu on my machine but the usb installer crashes as soon as it's done loading at the first splash screen - any advice on how to fix this?
[13:35] <ubuntu130> I'm not even getting the "Try ubuntu" menu
[13:35] <tyler_d> ubuntu130: try a different usb port if possible
[13:35] <ubuntu130> tyler_d: will do!
[13:36] <OerHeks> Fr_Dae, why alien, he needs to install it.. there are tools included
[13:36] <tyler_d> ubuntu130: further to that try re-creating or verifying the usb
[13:36] <tatertots> different port, different iso, different coputer
[13:36] <tatertots> in no particular order but best to try all
[13:37] <ubuntu130> tyler_d: anything that could be edited in the grub config to get more info rather than just a graphical output?
[13:37] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[13:37] <ubuntu130> I think it might be some problems with the nvidia card
[13:37] <Fr_Dae> alien are included in ubuntu
[13:37] <ubuntu130> ubottu: that's it! thanks
[13:37] <ubuntu130> haha :D
[13:37] <Fr_Dae> alien create a .deb
[13:38] <tyler_d> ubuntu130: what do you mean by more than graphical output?
[13:38] <ikonia> alien should not be used
[13:38] <ikonia> alien is more than "create a deb" its quite specific
[13:39] <ubuntu130> badly worded, more like "removing the splash to see what's actually going on"
[13:39] <OerHeks> Fr_Dae, and what if it is a sourcecode, then you give totally wrong advise
[13:39] <ikonia> and a terrible idea for %99.99999 of the situations
[13:39] <EriC^^> j #ubuntu-discuss
[13:39] <tyler_d> ubuntu130: ahh, yes nomodeset :) ty OerHeks
[13:39] <ubuntu130> thanks!
[13:39] <ubuntu130> ill be back if im still stuck later hah
[13:40] <OerHeks> Fr_Dae, you do try to help, we appreciate that, don't get me wrong
[13:40] <ubuntu_> Fr_Dae: Didn't do anything, it says that there is an error
[13:41] <OerHeks> yeah, alien gives shivers when i read that
[13:41] <tatertots> ubuntu_ http://nlp.stanford.edu/projects/glove/.
[13:43] <Fr_Dae> ikonia bad idea ? it's simple, and it's work fine
[13:44] <ubuntu_> I need a personnal teacher x)
[13:44] <Fr_Dae> ikonia ubuntu_ novice user don't care how compile work, he just want that work
[13:44] <Fr_Dae> no you need read the manuel bro
[13:46] <ubuntu_> I want to understand how it works but the things I read online barely help me, and I am a woman btw
[13:48] <Fr_Dae> woman are'nt no more stupid dude !
[13:48] <Fr_Dae> xD
[13:49] <ubuntu_> It just meant that "he" and "bro" are not for me
[13:49] <OerHeks> i think teaching howto build step by step is beyond the scope of this channel.
[13:50] <ubuntu_> Okay, I understand, do you know where I could find help for that?
[13:50] <ducasse> ubuntu_: if you want to compile it, install the package build-essential - 'sudo apt install build-essential'. then cd into the source directory and type 'make'.
[13:50] <OerHeks> just do the steps to get started, from that manual, and see how far you get
[13:51] <kokak> hi
[13:51] <ubuntu_> I installed build-essential already
[13:52] <ducasse> ubuntu_: ok, then cd into the directory and type 'make'.
[13:52] <JDMartti> hey guys does anyone know how to install open hardware monitor on the neweset ubuntu
[13:54] <kokak> anyone know where to get info on RT2790 disconnecting with ubuntu server 16
[13:55] <kokak> Ralink sh1t
[13:55] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ /nick for have a name if you want, i try your code, it's compile fine with make
[13:55] <OerHeks> kokak, check out dmesg
[13:55] <katronix> hi all, if you have an apt-get issue that apt-get -f install can't fix, is there a way to tell apt-get to forget about the issue?
[13:56] <OerHeks> katronix, by fixing the issue
[13:56] <kokak> OerHeks i have been trying to find a solution to this Ralink wifi issue
[13:56] <Fr_Dae> katronix jsute apt
[13:56] <katronix> OerHeks: when I run that command, it tells me it can't overwrite existing files
[13:57] <katronix> Fr_Dae: was that a typo?
[13:58] <Fr_Dae> sudo dpkg -cconfigure -a && sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade && sudo apt autoremove && sudo reboot
[13:58] <Fr_Dae> and try sudo apt install -f
[13:58] <Fr_Dae> sudo dpkg --configure -a (sorry)
[13:58] <ducasse> Fr_Dae: that won't overwrite existing files
[13:59] <ducasse> katronix: can you pastebin the whole error?
[13:59] <OerHeks> sudo reboot ??? come on, this is not windows
[13:59] <Fr_Dae> ducasse that can solve the probleme
[14:00] <katronix> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/nYtRgfmE
[14:00] <ubuntu_> Now it says that it doesn't find the files
[14:02] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu_ , i have download glove.zip, unzip it, open my terminal, type "cd ~/download/GloVe-1.2", typing make, wait, and bash demo.sh and the demo work
[14:02] <kokak> how to you prevent wifi from going off when your rig goes to power saving mode
[14:02] <Fr_Dae> i don't know how to use this application but, i think it's work
[14:03] <kokak> i have to reboot to get my wifi back
[14:03] <kokak> sudo inconfig xxx up does not work
[14:03] <katronix> ducasse: any ideas?
[14:04] <Fr_Dae> In the doubt, reboot =)
[14:05] <Fr_Dae> with SSD : 6seconde for reboot, it's so looog,
[14:05] <Fr_Dae> x)
[14:05] <tatertots> kokak if you needs hardware and things to remain active, why is your rig going into any power saving modes?
[14:05] <ducasse> katronix: there seems to be a packaging bug, where the same files exists in several packages. you can try to force the overwrite with dpkg -i --force-overwrite for each of the packages it fails on, but this problem should be reported.
[14:06] <kokak> tatertots well if i want to use it again. it comes alive except the wifi
[14:06] <katronix> ok
[14:06] <kokak> wifi does not go back again.
[14:07] <kokak> even if you manually want to go alive again
[14:07] <kokak> a reboot is the only way
[14:08] <OerHeks> that  RT2790  is a know troublemaker :-(
[14:09] <OerHeks> you better buy a good supported wifi device.
[14:09] <kokak> har har
[14:10] <kokak> maybe ill just plug the usb 4g modem
[14:10] <kokak> lol and forget using wifi
[14:10] <OerHeks> no joke, you can tell about the many pages suggesting to build the driver yourself
[14:10] <CherryPuffs> Good morning. I noticed that a process called grub-mount /<dir>/<location>/os-probe was taking up all my memory just now. What does that do? Is it normal for grub-related programs to be running after boot?
[14:10] <Bassem> i have 100 gb lvm partition for ubuntu only 84 gb is used and 16 gb unused how can i extend it to the full 100 gb
[14:10] <CherryPuffs> (BTW, I killed the process, everything went back to normal)
[14:10] <CherryPuffs> And I just updated Firefox. Don't know if that's related.
[14:10] <kokak> i guess so.. i was reading about ralink issues it is ended
[14:10] <kokak> endless
[14:11] <OerHeks> Bassem that makes no sense, you want to fill it up to 100 gb??
[14:11] <kokak> Oerheks build the driver? like programming it yourself? or just recompiling
[14:12] <Bassem> OerHeks, the logical volumes are swap rootfs home and they are 84 gb of the 100 gb lvm partition
[14:13] <eelstrebor> what would cause lshw, hwlist, and lspci to hange in ubuntu 16.04? bad install? maybe something to do with uefi? or some weird thing with the bios? it only happens on my new asus laptop which has the latest bios features such as secure boot
[14:13] <tatertots> Bassem pastbin output of 'lvdisplay'
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  yes, so now you have 16gb left
[14:13] <OerHeks> kokak, compiling
[14:13] <OerHeks> Bassem, this creates a 1 gb file > fallocate -l 1G test.img
[14:13] <kokak> Oerheks. I see. just plugged the usb modem now hahaha
[14:13] <eelstrebor> ctrl-C won't abort the commands either
[14:14] <kokak> i guess i wont be using wifi on this
[14:14] <Bassem> tatertots, You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[14:14] <katronix> for future knowledge, if you install software in deb format, can you tell apt-get you don't care if it thinks there is a newer version?
[14:14] <kokak> retarded solution but instead of plugging it to a wall socket. i just plugged the damn router to the rig
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  what do you want to achieve?
[14:14] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, yes and i want to add it to my home because i'll use virtualbox
[14:14] <OerHeks> !pinning | katronix
[14:14] <Bassem> OerHeks, don't understand what do you mean
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  so you want to merge partitions?
[14:15] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, yes
[14:15] <OerHeks> Bassem, we all don't understand what you mean ..
[14:16] <mattt> can i boot an ubuntu iso off a usb drive, unmount /cdrom, and repurpose that usb drive while ubuntu is still booted off the drive?
[14:16] <katronix> OerHeks: can you pin retroactively? would this fix my issue?
[14:16] <OerHeks> Bassem, you want to fill that space, or extend it?
[14:17]  * eelstrebor guesses that his asus p5n-d mobo is a legacy device now
[14:17] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume
[14:17] <_adb> mattt: that's likely to get pretty crashy. i believe there's an option to load the entire contents of the disk in memory when booting that'll help, but this slows down the boot process considerably
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  Bassem wants to combine / merge two partitions
[14:18] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, no
[14:18] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, here's the issue
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  you just said yes
[14:18] <mattt> _adb: yeah, crash is what i experienced ... i'll look into loading contents into memory!  thanks
[14:18] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, i dedicate 100gb partition for ubuntu ok?
[14:19] <adroit_machine> MonkeyDust, here's the issue
[14:19] <adroit_machine> [19:48] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  you just said yes
[14:19] <OerHeks> mattt, maybe you could use the option --to-ram ..
[14:19] <adroit_machine> [19:48] <mattt> _adb: yeah, crash is what i experienced ... i'll look into loading contents into memory!  thanks
[14:19] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, now the root is 20gb, swap 4gb, home is 64gb
[14:19] <OerHeks> adroit_machine, are you a script?
[14:19] <adroit_machine> sorry pressed my middle mouse key
[14:19] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, now where is the left 16g???
[14:20] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, i want to add it to home so it become 16+64 = 80
[14:22] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, got me?
[14:22] <OerHeks> Bassem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume but make sure the partitions are side-by-side
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  so, still, you want to merge two partitions, so they add up to 80
[14:22] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, yes
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  don't say 'no' when i repeat this next time ;)
[14:22] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, but it's all in sda2
[14:23] <k1l> its  a lvm
[14:23] <Bassem> k1l, yes
[14:23] <OerHeks> and it is virtualbox ...
[14:23] <Bassem> OerHeks, no
[14:24] <Archeus> umm
[14:24] <OerHeks> " and i want to add it to my home because i'll use virtualbox" i don get this at all, i leave you to others..
[14:24] <Archeus> i have problem with my wifi
[14:24] <Bassem> guys i'm noob to ubuntu so step by step so i can understand you
[14:24] <Archeus> it just turns off automaticly
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  that's not a beginner's question
[14:25] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, i have 1 tb hard disk...100gb for windows, 100gb for ubuntu, 800 gb for storage
[14:25] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, the issue is in the ubuntu partition
[14:26] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, ubuntu partition is 100gb but what it show me is.....swap 4gb, root 20gb,home 60gb
[14:27] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, so 4+20+60 = 84gb while the partition is 100gb
[14:27] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, now i want to know where is that lost 16gb
[14:27] <Bassem> MonkeyDust, got me now?
[14:27] <ramster> exit
[14:28] <KpuCko> hello i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS from USB pen drive to software raid & lvm, the problem is that on the 4 console (the log) im seeing errors like that: main-menu: operation not supported, and my installation fails
[14:28] <KpuCko> what should be the problem?
[14:28] <ducasse> Bassem: i'm guessing it's not lost at all, 100Gb != 100Gib...
[14:29] <DArqueBishop> Bassem: mind pastebinning the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[14:29] <Bassem> DArqueBishop, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22316831/
[14:30] <tatertots> KpuCko try your usb on a different computer does it boot? yes/no...try a different iso media or different usb media, does it boot? yes/no
[14:30] <k1l_> i dont know why beginner do a lvm partitionining. that is just another burden to be dealt with
[14:31] <Bassem> there's 16gb not mounted to swap or root or home where is it????
[14:31] <k1l_> Bassem: wasnt that answered yesterday already?
[14:31] <tatertots> probably from some blog or forum post they thought made lvm sound super nifty
[14:31] <ph88> hi guys, i'm trying to recover some files, can anyone help with this error? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/401710/14704074/
[14:31] <Bassem> k1l_, no one help me to get back those 16gb
[14:32] <tatertots> lvm is NOT for the novice
[14:32] <Bassem> tatertots, as i told i'm noob so i did as some one from this room directions to install ubuntu
[14:33] <Bassem> tatertots, i even dont understand any of the commands he told me to do
[14:33] <k1l_> Bassem:  i guess they are inside the lvm but not directed to any of those 3 lvm-partitions.
[14:33] <Bassem> DArqueBishop, did you get any thing of the link
[14:33] <Bassem> k1l_, so how can i restore it and add them to home ?
[14:34] <DArqueBishop> Bassem: yeah, but I've been pulled into a conference call and now have to concentrate on that. Sorry.
[14:34] <k1l_> Bassem: look if system-config-lvm is an easy enough way to handle those lvm partitions.
[14:34] <Bassem> k1l_, how can i use system-config-lvm
[14:35] <k1l_> install it, then run it and see if it works for you. i dont use LVMs at all. so i cant give you spoonfeeding here
[14:36] <Bassem> k1l_, apt-get system-config-lvm?
[14:36] <k1l_> Bassem: sudo apt install system-config-lvm
[14:36] <k1l_> but you can use your softwarecenter, coo
[14:36] <k1l_> *too
[14:37] <james000-> Hi, I'm trying to get my Wacom CTL-490DW-S to map to a single monitor, rather than my entire array. As per http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Dual_and_Multi-Monitor_Set_Up I have identified the names of my monitors and have then proceeded to run xsetwacom to map it to said monitor, as such.. http://pastebin.com/Tu76vP5U However the command fails and I do not know why
[14:37] <james000-> As I'm on ubuntu mate I cannot make use of the gui tool for this found in stock ubuntu so I believe I have to use the commandline
[14:39] <tatertots> Bassem if any of these commands show info pastebin the info, run all three, 'pvdisplay'  'vgdisplay'  'lvdisplay'
[14:39] <tatertots> let that be your objective for the next moments
[14:40] <tatertots> run those three commands and pastebin if you get info back
[14:40] <Bassem> tatertots, none
[14:41] <tatertots> you are running these with sudo correct?
[14:41] <Bassem> tatertots, will do it with sudo
[14:41] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22317920/
[14:41] <tatertots> because you know only an admin would be messing with lvm's on the system
[14:41] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22317960/
[14:41] <tatertots> i want to see all three
[14:42] <johnsmith> anyone got a goo recommendation for typing pratice client such as Ktouch on Ubun16? i realy like Ktouch but on 16 it just really lags badly.
[14:42] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22318006/
[14:42] <tatertots> consider this your free crash course on lvm okay
[14:42] <Bassem> tatertots, 3 links for 3 commands
[14:43] <tatertots> now understand  you didn't even install your dual boot system, someone else installed it for you..correct?
[14:44] <tatertots> now earlier you where searching for 16GB correct?
[14:44] <Bassem> tatertots, i had windows 7 installed first then i wanted to try ubuntu
[14:44] <tatertots> well there it is
[14:44] <tatertots>  Free  PE / Size       4097 / 16.00 GiB
[14:44] <Bassem> tatertots, he made me choose option else in the installing process
[14:44] <tatertots> there's the 16GB you've been searching for
[14:45] <Bassem> tatertots, so i want to add it to home so it become 76gb rather than it's current 60gb
[14:45] <k1l_> we had this sorted over the last days several times. the 16Gb is still unallocated in the LVM.
[14:45] <tatertots> now don't go thinking you can easily get your grubby little fingers on that 16GB
[14:45] <tatertots> you need to VGextend
[14:46] <tatertots> the only thing you can feed into a vgextend is a pvname
[14:46] <Bassem> tatertots, i dont understand you
[14:46] <tatertots> so you can only extend if you have created a pv to use in the vg
[14:47] <Bassem> tatertots, what is pv and vg
[14:48] <tatertots> Bassem pv physical volume
[14:48] <tatertots> lv logical volume
[14:48] <skinux> Still having trouble with Wireless
[14:48] <tatertots> vg volume group
[14:48] <skinux> Wireless manager says no wireless networks available.
[14:48] <Bassem> tatertots, i just installed system-config-lvm
[14:48] <Bassem> tatertots, is that the one?
[14:49] <skinux> It's obviously working with the Adapter, but for some reason won't see any networks.
[14:49] <tatertots> and you really should read and understand at least this before even attempting to go at messing with lvm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[14:49] <james000-> Is anyone in here able to help with my previously posted question?
[14:50] <rmota> what was it?
 Hi, I'm trying to get my Wacom CTL-490DW-S to map to a single monitor, rather than my entire array. As per http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Dual_and_Multi-Monitor_Set_Up I have identified the names of my monitors and have then proceeded to run xsetwacom to map it to said monitor, as such.. http://pastebin.com/Tu76vP5U However the command fails and I do not know why
 As I'm on ubuntu mate I cannot make use of the gui tool for this found in stock ubuntu so I believe I have to use the commandline
[14:50] <skinux> My Adapter is NetGear AC1200 (A6210) High Gain WiFi USB Adapter
[14:50] <BluesKaj_> james000-,  if you asked more than 10mins ago , repeat your question
[14:50] <skinux> KI already installed driver using NDISWrapper
[14:50] <james000-> ok
[14:51] <ph88> hi guys, i'm trying to recover some files, can anyone help with this error? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/401710/14704074/
[14:53] <tatertots> Bassem what are you wanting to do with lvm?
[14:53] <ph88> hhmm it seems to have worked when i add the passphrase up front ^^
[14:53] <Bassem> tatertots, what do you mean
[14:53] <tatertots> you've pastbin your lv's pv's and vg's
[14:53] <tatertots> and that will help if you run into trouble so we can help out
[14:54] <tatertots> oh i thought you were going to be making changes to the logical volumes, i'm sorry i misunderstood
[14:55] <Bassem> tatertots, i just want to add those 16gb to my home 60gb so it become 76gb
[14:56] <tatertots> ah so you want to add to "home 60GB" Bassem
[14:56] <tatertots> ok
[14:56] <ph88> file backup started =]
[14:56] <Bassem> tatertots, yes
[14:57] <tatertots> your home 60GB is LV Name                home
[14:58] <tatertots> that means it's a logical volume and it's name is "home"
[14:58] <tatertots> this is your pastbin of your logical volumes http://paste.ubuntu.com/22318006/
[14:59] <Bassem> tatertots, yes so
[15:04] <tatertots> Bassem vgextend , lvextend pvextend you need to pick one
[15:04] <Bassem> tatertots, ???? what do you mean
[15:06] <tatertots> Bassem you can extend a logical volume with lvextend
[15:06] <tatertots> same goes for vg's and pv's
[15:07] <OerHeks> i think he needs to extend the volumegroup first??
[15:07] <OerHeks> vgextend, and hope that the empty space is bordering the ubuntu VG...
[15:08] <Tin_man> oh don't worry tatertots hasn't confused him enough yet..
[15:09] <Bassem> tatertots, look at this https://s32.postimg.org/ffb78lgit/Screenshot_from_2016_08_05_17_08_38.png
[15:10] <xiaoming> ll
[15:10] <Bassem> tatertots, i made the 16 as new logical volume with name home1...now i need to merge
[15:10] <tatertots> Bassem that's a pretty screen shot but we had all that information with the commands i had you pastebin
[15:10] <Bassem> tatertots, ok so what to do now
[15:10] <tatertots> it's pretty though
[15:11] <xiaoming> how are you
[15:11] <xiaoming> so many users.
[15:12] <tatertots> that a boy bassem get right in there make your first lv
[15:12] <Bassem> ?
[15:12] <OerHeks> hi xiaoming, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[15:12] <skinux> xiaoming: Can/Will you help me with a Wireless problem?
[15:12] <tatertots> that was encouragement
[15:12] <xiaoming> no
[15:13] <OerHeks> skinux, didn't we find out your card is supported by the ndiswrapper method only??
[15:13] <skinux> OerHeks: This is a different Adapter, brand new, just got it a day ago.
[15:13] <Mouaad> hello, I use ubuntu 16.04 and wanna know if HybridGraphics works (AMD/Intel) ? or should I use 14.04 ?
[15:14] <skinux> And I DID install it using NDISWrapper
[15:14] <tatertots> so now you're going to be using one of the extend options Bassem
[15:14] <Bassem> tatertots, ok i'm foloowing you
[15:14] <skinux> NetGear AC1200 (A6310) High Gain WiFi USB Adapter
[15:15] <ash_workz> so I am looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable and ˇ says "space" "less" ... what is "less" ?
[15:15] <OerHeks> skinux, oke,. but netgear has many chipsets, what does lspci or lsusb say about it?
[15:16] <tatertots> Bassem you ready to extend?
[15:16] <isene> It's a bit quiet over at #conky, so I will try my luck here:
[15:16] <Bassem> tatertots, yes
[15:16] <isene> Need some help with an output to conky, I have this in my conky file under TEXT (along with a setup that I KNOW works as I use it for three other conkys that draw on my desktop):
[15:16] <isene> ${execpi 300 ncal -Mw -m $((10#$(date +%m) - 1)); echo ""; ncal -Mw; echo ""; ncal -Mw -m $((10#$(date +%m) + 1))}
[15:16] <isene> running the command 'ncal -Mw -m $((10#$(date +%m) - 1)); echo ""; ncal -Mw; echo ""; ncal -Mw -m $((10#$(date +%m) + 1))' in a terminal prints out a three-month vertical calendar - which is what I need conky to do - but it doesn't output anything... and I wonder why
[15:16] <tatertots>  extend it vgetend
[15:16] <tatertots> vgextend
[15:17] <skinux> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9853 NetGear Inc.
[15:17] <_adb> ash_workz: probably the < symbol
[15:17] <OerHeks> that 0846:9853 id does not exist :-(
[15:18] <tatertots> Bassem you said you made a new lv, let's see it pastpin lvdisplay
[15:19] <Bassem> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/22321708/
[15:19] <tatertots> any changes you makes let's be sure to get that in a pastebin my friend
[15:21] <skinux> sory 0846:9053
[15:21] <skinux> And, where do you look that stuff up at?
[15:22] <tatertots> Bassem can you make that a pv instead of a lv?
[15:22] <Bassem> tatertots, how?
[15:22] <tatertots> vgextend expects a pv
[15:22] <ash_workz> _adb: I dont know how I do this to myself, I could have sworn I saw a lessthan in there, but w/e, yeah < works
[15:22] <tatertots> you have a lv
[15:22] <tatertots> if you wish to vgextend simply present the pv to vgextend
[15:23] <Bassem> tatertots, lv managment only give me option to create new logical volume
[15:24] <Mouaad> no one have an idea how to make work hybridgraphics for xenial ? (amd/intel) , i've found only outdated wiki pages (for 14.04 and below)
[15:24] <k1l_> skinux: http://askubuntu.com/a/740244/31260
[15:26] <beantaxi> Hi all. Upgraded from 14.04->16.04. 2nd monitor now behaves erratically.
[15:27] <beantaxi> My video card is AMD/Radeon. its driver, fglrx, is unsupported under 16.04. Two open source alternatives are encouraged: radeon and amdgpu. 16.04 installs the one it believes works best with your video card; in my case it has installed radeon
[15:28] <tatertots> Bassem you found that 16GB you were looking for and you even made a shiny new logical volume out of it, good job
[15:28] <Bassem> tatertots, but i want to merge it with home
[15:28] <blocky> when does a record of updates get written to /var/log/dpkg or /var/log/apt? i installed some updates yesterday that broke my grub and i am wondering if there is a way to roll them back, but i don't know what i installed
[15:29] <beantaxi> What I am unclear on, is if I should just live with radeon ... or switch to amdgpu even though it is unclear if it is supported ... and in either case, do I just need to live with whatever behavior I get, until a driver update fixes it
[15:30] <k1l_> beantaxi: what exact card is it?
[15:30] <k1l_> blocky: yes, look at /var/log/apt/
[15:31] <k1l_> blocky: and what does "broke my grub" mean?
[15:31] <tatertots> Bassem you familiar with [TAB] completion in terminal?..you know where you can type the first few letters and press [TAB]?
[15:31] <Bassem> tatertots, yes
[15:31] <tatertots> ok cool
[15:32] <OerHeks> AMD Radeon R9 285, R9 380/380X and R9 Fury/FuryX graphics cards are now supported  by the AMDgpu driver
[15:32] <beantaxi> http://pastebin.com/k0djjHsH
[15:32] <tatertots> vg lv and pv and everything that [TAB] auto completes for them need to be the tools in your tool belt please look at all three now
[15:33] <beantaxi> Looks like Radeon R5? Not sure without crawling around under my desk
[15:34] <Bassem> tatertots, ok done
[15:34] <beantaxi> Apologies, for my video card cluelessness (I'm basically a gaming addict in recovery)
[15:35] <Mouaad> I asked twice already but I think no one knows an answer: does the hybridgraphics works better in 14.04 than 16.04 for AMD/Intel ?
[15:35] <OerHeks> beantaxi, seems like your card is supported by the open radeon driver only
[15:36] <tatertots> Bassem now that you've seen the tools in your tool belt you should be able to pick the tool that best sounds like what your objective is
[15:36] <k1l_> beantaxi: amd said they want to support all cng cards with amd gpu (so basically the same as fglrx did). but they didnt deliver that. only some r9 cards are supported yet iirc
[15:36] <beantaxi> OerHeks: So generally, unless it's a newish card, it's radeon only. And I'm SOL?
[15:36] <OerHeks> beantaxi, yes.
[15:37] <beantaxi> OerHeks: I blame you.
[15:37] <k1l_> Mouaad: best is to test a live usb/dvd and see what works best for your exact cards
[15:37] <Bassem> tatertots, i see vgmerge is it right
[15:37] <beantaxi> OerHeks: Not really. Thank you very much for the clarity here. At least I can stop wondering how the heck I deal with this
[15:37] <tatertots> Bassem :)
[15:37] <OerHeks> the amdgpu will be extended with more cards, but not down to R5 iirc
[15:38] <beantaxi> k1l_: Thank you for that detail. I was confused, as to how they could just abandon all the old cards. Saying they would support them, but then not delivering, is less confusing.
[15:38] <k1l_> OerHeks: i am not too much into the amd story (unsing intel only since some time) but i thought they said all cng cards.
[15:39] <tatertots> but you cannot use it
[15:40] <tatertots> lv consists of vg which themselves consist of pv's
[15:40] <ezio> if my postfix server will only be used to relay mail mta to mta or sendmail from the server's php, will i need to set up certificates?
[15:41] <Bassem> tatertots, so wha to use
[15:41] <Guest80618> ezio: I don't think so I use to relay gmail smtp and I didn't need to setup any certificates
[15:42] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[15:42] <ezio> Guest80618, that's because gmail uses a CA
[15:42] <ezio> but i assure you, they encrypt
[15:43] <skinux> k1l_: I just followed those instructions, didn't work
[15:43] <yellabs-r2> i have a bunch of bash scripts that use zenity, but the latest zenity ( in 16.04 ) spits out : Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. The developers say its not a bug
[15:44] <yellabs-r2> so i want to rewrite it all to gdailog, is that often used , or is it "old fashion" ?
[15:44] <yellabs-r2> what do you think ?
[15:44] <rypervenche> yellabs-r2: Aside from the message, do you notice anything wrong with your zenity windows?
[15:44] <yellabs-r2> no they are fine