[15:29] <hatch> uiteam I still need two qa's and reviews https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/664
[15:29] <kadams54> hatch: taking a look
[15:29] <hatch> thanks
[15:29] <rick_h_> Makyo: can you look at ^ as well please?
[15:29] <hatch> it needs a real env qa
[15:37] <Makyo> Sure
[15:41] <hatch> thanks guys
[15:49] <bac> hatch: you going to land a juju-gui branch soon? let me know when you do and :shipit:
[15:49] <hatch> bac: the doc one wasn't good enough?
[15:49] <hatch> or do we need another test?
[15:50] <bac> hatch: another, i didn't have the site setup for comingsoon to get built properly
[15:50] <hatch> ohh ok
[15:51] <hatch> one is getting qa's so hopefully that'll pass ok and it can be landed
[16:21] <kadams54> Makyo: are you QAing hatch's PR in a real env?
[16:21] <Makyo> Yeah
[16:22] <kadams54> I gave it a whirl but ran into problems. Trying to decide if I should try to wade through them or throw my hands up and just review.
[16:30] <hatch> kadams54: you should really just work in Ubuntu :)
[16:31] <kadams54> Some day
[16:34] <hatch> I made a small change to my tests and now they hang
[16:34] <hatch> :/
[16:38] <hatch> iphone users - can iphones auto sync photos to icloud?
[16:39] <teslanick> Yes
[16:40] <hatch> mom has an old iphone which she says no longer syncs to icloud
[16:40] <hatch> wanted to make sure it ever did ;)
[16:41] <teslanick> Pretty sure all my photos sync to icloud. Actually, it's all the images I put in my photo library, which is a pain.  I dont' see it
[16:49] <kadams54> hatch: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/666
[16:49] <kadams54> PR#666 - ominous.
[16:50] <teslanick> HALLOWEEN WAS WEEKS AGO
[16:50] <hatch> well 666 is only ominous if you believe in the most recent religions and not the ones which the new ones were based on
[16:50] <hatch> (old roomie was a religious studies major)
[16:50] <hatch> :P
[16:51]  * hatch <----- buzkillington
[16:52] <teslanick> Note that the real "number of the beast" or whatever is 616. The current "666" is a translation error.
[16:52] <hatch> oh interesting
[16:52]  * hatch gets 616 shirts made up for the emo kids
[16:57] <jrwren> 616 is a nearby areacode. grand rapids, I think.
[16:57] <hatch> are they all deamons?
[16:57] <teslanick> well there you go.
[16:57] <hatch> horns, red
[16:57] <hatch> you know the type
[17:01] <kadams54> hatch, Makyo: crap, sorry, just realized I pushed the wrong branch for that PR. Hold off on QA for a few minutes while I straighten things out.
[17:02] <hatch> kadams54: np I'm still reviewing huws
[17:02] <hatch> yours got bumped ;)
[17:08] <rick_h_> hatch: you see http://www.fse.guru/2-years-with-angular ?
[17:08] <hatch> I have not
[17:08] <hatch> I will read it later though
[17:23] <hatch> kadams54: you pulled that PR down?
[17:24] <hatch> oh I thought you were just going to update it
[17:24] <hatch> :)
[17:24] <hatch> nm, ping when ready
[17:24] <kadams54> hatch: Yeah, https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/667
[17:24] <hatch> cool
[17:26] <hatch> kadams54: so the status bar seems a few pixels too high in it's little box
[17:26] <kadams54> Makyo: ^ New PR ready for QA.
[17:26] <hatch> does it look like that to you too?
[17:26] <hatch> maybe it's just an illusion :)
[17:27] <kadams54> hatch: No, not particularly.
[17:27] <kadams54> FWIW, I didn't change any CSS for this - just shifted stuff around in the HTML.
[17:27] <kadams54> So visually the status bar is the same.
[17:27] <hatch> That add units header sure looks bad now haha
[17:29] <hatch> kadams54: so the scale up container element...it was missing before?
[17:29] <hatch> was it just working by chance?
[17:29] <kadams54> No, wasn't working by chance.
[17:30] <kadams54> The container element was a new div rather than an existing one.
[17:30] <kadams54> serviceOverview appended that div into its container, which guaranteed that it would always come first.
[17:30] <kadams54> Since I needed the status bar div to come first, I had to switch to having a pre-existing placeholder div which would be passed in as the container to scaleUp.
[17:31] <kadams54> hatch: Your gripes about the Add Unit header are worth mentioning to luca. I just double-checked the mocks attached to the bug and there's no header there. The status bar is almost merged with the scaleUp UI.
[17:32] <kadams54> hatch, luca: here's the mock: http://cl.ly/image/1C1c0i1k0Q2e
[17:32] <kadams54> And here's the current impl: http://cl.ly/image/2U3D3X0y0N3r
[17:32] <kadams54> I don't think it would be too hard to pull the header out as part of this branch.
[17:33] <hatch> well you now have 2 +1's so might as well just land it and we can follow-up late
[17:33] <hatch> r
[17:33] <luca> kadams54: well, it’s positioned better at least :)
[17:34] <hatch> luca:  you'll have to take a look once it lands, the header kind of looks out of placed
[17:34] <hatch> it doesn't really look like it 'belongs' to anything
[17:35] <luca> kadams54: hatch Makyo we did come up with a new way of displaying this in Nuremberg
[17:35] <hatch> yeah?
[17:35] <hatch> have any mocks to look ati?
[17:35] <luca> kadams54: hatch Makyo I haven’t wireframed it yet but we made some great improvements
[17:35] <hatch> ohh ok
[17:35] <kadams54> OK
[17:35] <hatch> I know it's been a tough problem to solve
[17:35] <luca> kadams54: hatch Makyo no…and I remember now that it was actually with Huw
[17:35] <luca> i’ll send my notes on it
[17:36] <hatch> huw was in nuremberg?
[17:36] <kadams54> luca, hatch: for what it's worth, here's how things would look if I just dropped the <h2>: http://cl.ly/image/470F3H3f1n1d
[17:36] <hatch> or are you thinking brussels?
[17:36] <hatch> heh name dropping destinations
[17:36] <hatch> :P
[17:36] <kadams54> I prefer that and it's a simple change, esp. if we're going to rework that shortly.
[17:37] <hatch> kadams54: need bigger shot
[17:37] <hatch> more context of the inspector :)
[17:37] <kadams54> http://cl.ly/image/293x1t170a24
[17:38] <hatch> yeah that's much nicer imho
[17:39] <hatch> kadams54: I also see your cache is broken again ;)
[17:39] <kadams54> Yes
[17:39] <kadams54> Eternally
[17:39] <hatch> and your fonts are way more bold
[17:39] <hatch> very odd...
[17:39] <kadams54> I wonder if that's just Chrome/Mac
[17:41] <kadams54> hatch, Makyo: pushed the dropped header.
[17:41] <luca> kadams54: hatch I have to run but I sent the info via peeps
[17:41] <kadams54> I gotta run for my doctor appt. but will get this landed and finish my other QA after.
[19:54] <hatch> rick_h_: I shared a vid on G+ this weekend about some really cool stuff coming in chrome wrt offline/app-like performance
[19:54] <hatch> a lot of which would really speed the gui up
[19:54] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, I have been meaning to look at it
[19:54] <kadams54> rick_h_: you asked me to QA a card in standup, but now I forget which one…
[19:55] <rick_h_> kadams54: I think we're ok. I think it was storefront and I looked at it and have questions/etc
[19:56] <kadams54> OK. Starting in on the switchboard integration.
[19:57] <teslanick> hatch: Is that serviceworker stuff?
[19:59] <rick_h_> man, the wind is trying to huff and puff and blow my house down
[19:59] <kadams54> rick_h_: yeah, it knocked my recycling over. My porch is a mess of plastic and cardboard right now.
[20:07] <hatch> teslanick: yup
[20:08] <hatch> uiteam - they are starting on my place so I may or may not get kicked offline :)
[20:08] <teslanick> This is pretty impressive - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px-J9Ghvcx4
[20:08] <kadams54> hatch: geez, is your fiber under perpetual construction?
[20:09] <hatch> kadams54: no this time it's new gas meter
[20:09] <hatch> and power meter
[20:09] <hatch> unless they run into issues
[20:09] <hatch> so...yeah
[20:09] <kadams54> Like cutting your fiber
[20:09] <kadams54> ;-)
[20:09] <hatch> teslanick: yeah that demo is awesome
[20:09] <hatch> kadams54: lol exactly
[20:09] <kadams54> teslanick, hatch: pretty sweet
[20:09] <hatch> teslanick: serviceworker - what appcache was supposed to be ;)
[20:10] <hatch> there is also some really cool manifest stuff wrt meta tags
[20:10] <hatch> so that we don't need to put 100 meta tags at the top of every page
[20:11] <jrwren> we have 50+mph winds right now. I'm amazed that I have power.
[20:11] <hatch> nice!
[20:11]  * hatch grabs kite - heads to Detroit
[20:12] <jrwren> its frame had better be made of something strong.
[20:12] <rick_h_> Wind
[20:12] <rick_h_> SW 28 mph gusting to 50 mph
[20:13] <hatch> bac: I'm about to shippit a branch
[20:13] <hatch> jrwren: no frame :)
[20:14] <hatch> jrwren: http://www.kittyhawk.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/L8G0244-e1328583281953-780x300.jpg
[20:14] <hatch> just a random pic
[20:14] <hatch> it's like an airfoil - it uses the airflow to inflate
[20:15] <jrwren> hatch: whoa, cool.
[20:15] <teslanick> hatch: It's almost like having a real programming language helps you solve problems more effectively
[20:16]  * teslanick glares at CSS.
[20:17] <kadams54> jrwren: yeah, it helps to realize that when hatch talks about a kite, he doesn't mean the one we all played with as kids :-)
[20:20] <bac> hatch: kadams54 beat you to it.  let's see if his updates comingsoon properly
[20:21] <hatch> kadams54: jrwren haha no, mine are 5 - 14m of area :)
[20:21] <kadams54> bac: ah yes… hatch was too slow :-)
[20:21] <hatch> lol
[20:22] <hatch> teslanick: haha yeah I've spent many a unable to sleep nights nerding out on how to make a better css :)
[20:22] <hatch> so far I've come up empty
[20:23] <teslanick> A simple "box model shader" API, written for JS, that uses the "top down" model that React uses.
[20:23] <teslanick> SOLVING THE PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL
[20:24] <hatch> ok well there ARE solutions to the problem - just none that I think are any better
[20:50] <bac> uiteam: great, http://comingsoon.jujucharms.com/juju-ui/version.js is updated for kadams54-away recent landing
[20:51] <rick_h_> bac: woot ty much!
[20:51] <hatch> nice! good work bac
[20:53] <bac> hatch: your blog post is nice but my install was much simpler as i blew away os x
[20:53] <hatch> ohh ok
[20:54] <hatch> yeah for ppl with new apple hardware you definitely don't want to do that if you want things to work :)
[20:54] <hatch> maybe 16.04?
[20:54] <hatch> lol
[20:54] <hatch> I don't even know where to start to write drivers for the webcam
[20:55] <hatch> and I'd imagine there aren't many new MBP users who run ubuntu who are also driver authors :)
[20:55] <bac> hatch: i plan to close the lid and just ssh to it
[20:55] <bac> hatch: don't plan on it being my desktop
[20:55] <hatch> I have an oldish unused mac mini that i'd like to turn into my work machine - but I find I leave my desk and work around the house too much
[20:56] <hatch> so I'm thinking to think of a workflow that will make it less painful
[20:56] <hatch> working over ssh is too slow for me
[20:56] <rick_h_> it depends on the kind of work
[20:56] <rick_h_> browser work is a bit harder for sure
[20:56] <hatch> yeah - and I don't do any browser work ;)
[20:56] <rick_h_> :P
[20:57] <hatch> I was thinking some kind of an automatic rsync
[20:57] <rick_h_> ugh
[20:57] <hatch> so as soon as the machine boots it syncs the home directory
[20:58] <kadams54> bac: woot!
[21:00] <hatch> rick_h_: I was also thinking of running a parallels vm on the mini, and on my laptop so when I leave I can copy it over
[21:01] <hatch> but that's probably worse than rsync lol
[21:10] <hatch> ffs promises
[21:10] <hatch> that is all
[21:12] <teslanick> ur doin' it wrogn.
[21:12] <teslanick> ;)
[21:13] <hatch> lol
[21:20]  * jrwren sings promises promises.
[21:22] <teslanick> hatch: http://2014.jsconf.eu/speakers/james-coglan-practical-functional-programming-pick-two.html - We disagree about Promises, but I think this is worth a watch even if you're a Promiseskeptic.
[21:23] <rick_h_> hatch: just remember, it's all about the implementation :P
[21:23] <hatch> lol - hey I think promises are awesome - just not ones which implicitly throw()
[21:23] <teslanick> Promiskeptik. Darn.
[21:29] <hatch> I am actually somewhat interested about promise + generator combo
[21:29] <hatch> would be nice for us and large complex imports
[21:30] <hatch> s/and/with
[21:30] <teslanick> How do you mean?
[21:33] <hatch> lemme find the video
[21:33] <hatch> one sec
[21:33] <hatch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbKWsbJ76-s
[21:33] <hatch> sorry it's long
[21:34] <hatch> well 31min
[21:34] <hatch> but it does a better job outlining what I'm talking about :)
[21:34] <teslanick> Oh yeah, promises + generators is great. I was mostly curious about the large/complex imports part.
[21:34] <teslanick> I wrote some code that implements core.async-style channels and blocks using promises + generators.
[21:34] <hatch> ohh when people drop a 20+ service with many machines and stuff onto tha canvas
[21:34] <hatch> and we need to parse it all out, and deploy it
[21:35] <teslanick> Aha
[21:35] <teslanick> And there's a lot of asynchrony there
[21:35] <hatch> well async and sync haha
[21:35] <hatch> it's a syncy mess
[21:36] <teslanick> Here's what I was fooling with - https://gist.github.com/nhusher/9511044
[21:37] <teslanick> Channels have three functions: put, take, and close.
[21:38] <hatch> interesting I'll have to take a look later
[21:38] <hatch> right now I"m fighting with tests failing when run with the rest of the suite
[21:39] <rick_h_> hatch: when the export thing is landed let me know. I think it might be worth doing a release update after that on the gui
[21:39] <teslanick> Rough. I'll leave you alone
[21:39] <rick_h_> hatch: if we can squeeze it in cool, else we'll wait for next release. We're |--| close to our weekly cycle so no problem either way
[21:40] <hatch> rick_h_: that's done
[21:40] <hatch> and landed
[21:40] <hatch> I'm fighting with the charmstore stuff
[21:40] <rick_h_> hatch: oh, crap ok
[21:40] <hatch> apparently the tests faill dramatically when I try and remove the icon stuff from v3 because so many of the tests rely on that
[21:45] <rick_h_> lol
[21:45] <rick_h_> yea, there was a test helper to be used to mock it out
[22:31] <hatch> Makyo: I've now removed all of the old iconpath stuff https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/662
[22:31] <hatch> 33 files changed...oy
[22:45] <rick_h_> hatch: so why does that code go away vs just getting updated?
[22:46] <hatch> not sure I understand the question
[22:46] <hatch> why did I remove it from charmworld.js?
[22:46] <hatch> so that it would fall on its face hard if anyone tried to use it :0
[22:47] <rick_h_> hatch: so why did you have to touch all those points
[22:47] <hatch> because those old places use a stubbed version of apiv3
[22:47] <hatch> so it's now a stubbed version of apiv4
[22:47] <hatch> different method name
[22:47] <hatch> iconpath to getIconPath
[22:48] <rick_h_> ok, I see so it didn't go away just needed a lot of rewording
[22:48] <hatch> oh no it's gone
[22:48] <hatch> I deleted the iconpath method from charmworld.js
[22:49] <hatch> all the tests are converted to use the new method in the new api
[22:49] <hatch> and everything in the code now uses the apiv4 method
[22:49] <hatch> so any icons being fetched are being fetched from v4
[22:50] <hatch> which also means this branch cannot land until the next v4 api update
[22:50] <rick_h_> working on getting it through CI now
[22:50] <rick_h_> darn mojo CI got me with a failure for some reason
[22:50] <hatch> yeah no problem - I don't want to land this branch until after we cut the next release
[22:50] <hatch> just to be safe :)
[23:02] <hatch> kadams54: 662 is ready for its final review and qa - but it won't be landed until after we cut the next release
[23:02] <hatch> so probably wednesdayish
[23:03] <kadams54> ok


 is partitionmanager working in lubuntu mantic?
 LP: #2034020
[14:02] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2034020 in partitionmanager (Ubuntu) "KDE partition manager fails to show partitions when run" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2034020
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partitionmanager/+bug/2034020
 tempted to blame new polkitd again :P
 alas, doesn't seem to be the fault of that
[15:24] <Eickmeyer> @RikMills I'm having no issues here with partitionmanager on an installed system on mantic.
[15:25] <Eickmeyer> (Ubuntu Studio)
 just updated todays kubuntu iso and now seems ok on there
 so maybe something temporary
 yes ..only problem is Kubuntu as far I know (re @RikMills: is partitionmanager working in lubuntu mantic?)
 tks ..will test (re @RikMills: just updated todays kubuntu iso and now seems ok on there)


[00:10] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> I just installed ubuntu-desktop with no install recommends
[00:10] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> on my 14.04 server
[00:11] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> do i need to install x2go or vnc now/
[00:12] <A_beekeeper> gueriLLaPunK|MBP: You may want to, esp. if your server is a headless machine.
[00:12] <neurot> gueriLLaPunK|MBP look up webmin
[00:12] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> neurot - i have webmin installed
[00:12] <neurot> cool
[00:13] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> SonikkuAmerica - yeah i figured i might have to do that. i never installed x2go before
[00:13] <neurot>  That's how I run my server is webmin
[00:14] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> webmin is a great tool
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> gueriLLaPunK|MBP: How about xvnc or something?
[00:14] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> i just want a desktop to play around with
[00:14] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> ive installed vncserver years ago, but i didnt like the quality of it. ive used x2go and it was nice; it was almost like rdp on windows
[00:15] <UserUS> Where would I find the xchat file to add a theme?
[00:15] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> check out #xchat or #hexchat here, UserUS
[00:15] <UserUS> Ok, thanks
[00:17] <Zerkalerka> if I have / and /home on 2 different partitions, can I reinstall/format to a different distro without disturbing /home and when i boot up it will auto transfer over to the new install?
[00:18] <Zerkalerka> answered my own question
[00:18] <Zerkalerka> which is what I thought possible, nice ok
[00:19] <neurot> lol
[00:38] <canne> helpful hint (i hope) do not! /list *buntu* on this network unless you have a LOT of time lol
[00:38] <Ben64> !alis | canne
[00:38] <canne> ty :)
[00:39] <canne> anyhow hi all
[00:40] <yangm> I have a spigotmc/bukkit server and I would like to run it on ubuntu 14.04. what control panels are available? or how do I run it on boot?
[00:43] <canne> any chrome users had issues with install from .deb (d/l from google) on Lubuntu vs other flavors of Ubuntu ?
[00:44] <canne> in my case, it has worked/installed np until today when i tried on a (up to date) lubuntu 14.04 machine
[01:05] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> Is there a way to install GNOME without using an iso? I have 14.04 server installed
[01:05] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> http://ubuntugnome.org/download/
[01:07] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> Or do I ant gnome flashback?
[01:08] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> want*
[01:12] <xangua> so you want to run a server with gnome desktop¿
[01:13] <xangua> sudo apt-get install gnome gueriLLaPunK
[01:15] <gshmu> I'm Using kernel 3.16, but after update kenel 3.13, I neet to restart my compulter?
[01:25] <Guest945> Can someone help me to get 2 monitors working on new graphics card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 WindForce OC 4GB on Ubuntu Studio 14.04?
[01:30] <tiox> Hey guys. Flash from Ubuntu's repos seems really freakin' laggy when in full-screen, and I read it had something to do with lack of hardware acceleration in the non-Windows builds?
[01:31] <tiox> Is there a third-party PPA that has a better / more featured version available?
[01:32] <vixterra> flash for linux hasn't been supported for like two years tiox
[01:32] <vixterra> you're either stuck with a really old version or using chrome's build in flash
[01:33] <tiox> Stuck with an old version then I guess.
[01:34] <tiox> That's super-lame, considering Flash works way better than HTML5 for me.
[01:35] <tiox> Trust me, I wish I could ditch Flash, but video runs way better on my PC using it vs. HTML5 no matter what OS I am on.
[01:39] <neonixcoder> Do Kernel have capability to fix hwclock with huge difference with actual system time?
[01:53] <Travisty> This is a bit off topic, but I’m trying to set up openssh so that I can connec to my desktop at home when I’m out and about. I installed openssh and within my LAN I can ssh into the machine no problem. I’ve also set up port forwarding on my router, but when I try to connect using the WAN address it times out. I’ve tried changing the port from 22 to 2222 to see if my ISP is somehow blocking traffic on port 22, but now I’m a
[01:53] <Travisty> Does anyone have some tips that might be helpful?
[01:56] <Craigwell> man oh man oh man
[01:57] <Craigwell> i'm going to take another crack at clonezilla. Anyone familiar enough with it to help me pull this off, as far as command line parameters go?
[01:59] <Craigwell> cloning a disk with the following: linux swap, ext4 (ubuntu 14.04 boot), ntfs (win 7 home premium 64 boot) upsizing to larger drive
[02:01] <EriC^^> Craigwell: screw clonezilla
[02:03] <Craigwell> EriC^^,  What would you prefer?
[02:03] <EriC^^> Craigwell: i was thinking about something but i don't know anymore, i think it won't work
[02:04] <EriC^^> if you dd it as it is, and it's smaller on the new drive and then resize it with gparted, so it doesn't mess up windows, but i guess when you dd it the partition table just extends to where it was and you can't extend the individual partitions beyond that?
[02:05] <Craigwell> i haven't tried dd yet
[02:06] <EriC^^> i guess it's the same thing, when you used clonezilla earlier you ended up with the same size as the smaller disk right?
[02:06] <Craigwell> the only hint of the error i've seen refers to sector info in mbr, conflicting with start sector of partition on new drive, which is understandable
[02:06] <Craigwell> i did yes
[02:07] <EriC^^> maybe you could modify the partition table so that it is larger, and shows the unallocated free space?
[02:07] <EriC^^> what did it look like before? like 100gb disk, and partition table extends over 40gb and it didn't mention unallocated space 60gb?
[02:08] <Craigwell> EriC^^, I have been able to resize the file system successfully and mount
[02:09] <Craigwell> i don't seem to have an issue getting the partitions to size up proportionally and expand file systems
[02:09] <Craigwell> seems to be a conflict in mbr cloned info vs what fdisk reports sector wise
[02:09] <EriC^^> then why did windows not work?
[02:10] <Craigwell> i tried windows boot disk repair,  bootrec.exe /fixmbr and all that, it reports sucessful, but no change
[02:10] <Craigwell> i'm convinced one of the clonezilla parameters will affect the outcome, I just don't know what one
[02:11] <EriC^^> http://clonezilla.org/show-live-doc-content.php?topic=clonezilla-live/doc/03_Disk_to_disk_clone
[02:13] <EriC^^> By deafult, Clonezilla will clone the "same" size of source disk to target disk. i.e. in this example, only 8 GB will be cloned to target disk, so the rest of 12 GB on the destination disk will be unallocated. If you want to make use all of the target disk size, remember to enter "Expert" mode and choose option "-k1".
[02:13] <EriC^^> it's on that website
[02:14] <Craigwell> yes, I did do that, along with -r to resize filesystems
[02:15] <Craigwell> I'm starting to think my issues involve how i'm handling mbr / grub etc
[02:16] <Craigwell> ...but i will read around on that site
[02:16] <Craigwell> thank you for pointing it out, i may find my solution there
[02:16] <Craigwell> sometime i have blinders on for some reason
[02:17] <Craigwell> i've doubled down my effort though, have my other laptop out now so i can take the time to try and ensure the next attempt is the last!
[02:21] <EriC^^> Craigwell: hmm, there's no -k1 option http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/doc/03_Disk_to_disk_clone/advanced/05-advanced-param.php
[02:21] <EriC^^> Craigwell: maybe they meant q1?
[02:22] <EriC^^> sector-by-sector copy
[02:22] <EriC^^> oh i see it later in the page
[02:23] <EriC^^> Craigwell: do you have a gpt or mbr partition table?
[02:26] <sallu> Ubuntu
[02:26] <sallu> Software center is not downloading anything
[02:27] <Craigwell> EriC^^, yes to q1, assumed that's what you meant. MBR yes
[02:28] <Craigwell> I'm reading on that page as well
[02:28] <EriC^^> Craigwell: it says somewhere that sometimes if you resize windows it won't boot properly unless you reboot into it before installing ubuntu
[02:28] <Craigwell> wondering if I should disable -e2
[02:28] <sallu> Craigwell: i just installed new ubuntu
[02:28] <Craigwell> unsure about e1
[02:28] <sallu> Eric
[02:28] <sallu> Help me
[02:28] <EriC^^> no
[02:29] <EriC^^> j/k what's up?
[02:29] <Craigwell> yeah, what's wrong?
[02:29] <sallu> Ubuntu software center is not downloading anything
[02:29] <Craigwell> sallu, you say you just installed.. have you ran software update yet?
[02:29] <Craigwell> sallu, might be part of the issue
[02:29] <sallu> Do u guys think . Is it any issue with servers
[02:29] <EriC^^> Craigwell: maybe you can have windows control the bootloader, then clone the disk, then boot into it a couple times then reinstall grub
[02:30] <EriC^^> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/141219/windows-7-not-working-correctly-after-partition-resize
[02:30] <Craigwell> sallu, "software updater" that is
[02:30] <EriC^^> sallu: try sudo apt-get update
[02:30] <EriC^^> in a terminal
[02:30] <sallu> Craigwell yeah software updates begin automatically when i was asked to choose option to yes
[02:30] <sallu> Terminal k
[02:30] <Craigwell> sallu, i'm with EriC^^ , try terminal
[02:31] <sallu> Ok
[02:31] <Craigwell> it should be about 250 -300 mb of updates, assuming 14.04
[02:31] <sallu> Craig exactly it was around 250
[02:32] <sallu> I already did that updates and then restarted
[02:32] <sallu> Where is terminal
[02:32] <Craigwell> sallu, ctrl+alt+t
[02:32] <Craigwell> or type it in dash, icon top left corner
[02:32] <sallu> Damn damn damn linux mint is so cool with searching without even going to use mouse touch pad
[02:33] <Craigwell> i tried mint once. about 2008
[02:33] <sallu> K craig its open
[02:33] <Craigwell> stayed with ubuntu
[02:33] <Craigwell> type "sudo apt-get update"
[02:33] <Craigwell> without quotes
[02:33] <Craigwell> enter password, see what comes back
[02:34] <sallu> Craig i did that
[02:34] <Craigwell> if it's updated, then try a reboot and try software center again. I just used it myself about 20 minutes ago, so I don't think it's a ubuntu server issue lol
[02:34] <sallu> Mostly failed to fetch
[02:34] <sallu> May be our regional server issue
[02:34] <Craigwell> i just tried a couple things in mine again, seemed to work
[02:35] <Craigwell> it could be. not sure how you would go about mapping to another server
[02:35] <Craigwell> have you googled about it?
[02:35] <Craigwell> or search engine of your choice, of course
[02:35] <sallu> i am going to system setting then software & updates
[02:36] <EriC^^> sallu: type sudo apt-get update | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:36] <sallu> It says a lot. And download from server for pakistan
[02:37] <sallu> Updating cache
[02:37] <sallu> Download from main server
[02:37] <sallu> Lets see what happen
[02:37] <sallu> Eric
[02:38] <sallu> Hey you guys using which irc client
[02:38] <sallu> I am using android irc from my mobilephone
[02:38] <reisio> mmm
[02:38] <reisio> I'm using HexChat, because one can only be unlazy enough to use irssi so often
[02:38] <sallu> Difficult to type
[02:38] <reisio> I know what you mean
[02:38] <sallu> Hexchat
[02:39] <sallu> Is it preinstalled
[02:39] <reisio> mmmm, don't know, it's easily installed
[02:39] <reisio> old version is named xchat
[02:39] <Craigwell> I'm using xchat
[02:39] <reisio> Craigwell: copycat
[02:39] <Craigwell> downloaded from software center
[02:39] <Craigwell> lol
[02:39] <reisio> s/from/via/
[02:40] <neurot> I'm running hexchat
[02:41] <Craigwell> EriC^^, Only thing of note I see on that page involves loading clonezilla to ram, instead of using liveusb, I don't think it makes a difference
[02:41] <Craigwell> I might try changing to windows bootloader before clone though, that seems interesting
[02:41] <sallu> Hmmm
[02:41] <neurot> whats cool is hexchat has a ppa
[02:42] <sallu> Craig its working
[02:42] <Craigwell> reisio, in 1999, it was mIRC. In 1990 it was a vax account
[02:42] <sallu> I choose main server
[02:42] <Craigwell> reisio, now, i guess xchat will do lol.
[02:42] <sallu> Not united states nor pakistan but main server
[02:43] <sallu> But its damn slow slow slow
[02:43] <reisio> mmm, mIRC is Windows silliness :p
[02:43] <sallu> Be right back
[02:43] <EriC^^> Craigwell: it's odd that running /fixmbr and what not didn't fix it though
[02:43] <Craigwell> sallu, you may have EriC^^ to thank more so than I ;-) Glad it's working
[02:43] <EriC^^> Craigwell: i'm reading here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[02:43] <Craigwell> EriC^^, yes, especially seeing it changed to the windows bootloader when it did
[02:43] <sallu> Eric use easybcd
[02:43] <sallu> Be right back
[02:45] <EriC^^> Craigwell: what did it say when it tried to load windows?
[02:46] <Craigwell> EriC^^, says nothing,
[02:46] <Craigwell> blinking cursor upper left immediately
[02:46] <Craigwell> no splash etc
[02:46] <Craigwell> i did try boot repair
[02:47] <docmur> I mounted a zfs volumn as a passthrough into my VM, I have the fileshare mounted at /mnt/mxtemp, but when I try to copy from it I get premission denied, even as the root user
[02:47] <docmur> is there a proper way to do this
[02:48] <reisio> hrmmm
[02:48] <reisio> zfs, vm
[02:48] <reisio> me smells silly
[02:49] <EriC^^> Craigwell: did you try pressing f8 immediately?
[02:49] <Craigwell> yes, it doesn't even get that far
[02:49] <docmur> Well the host has a zfs tank and in this tank is a folder I need to copy to the vm, so I mounted the zfs fileshare inside the vm and mounted it to /mnt/mxtemp
[02:49] <Craigwell> as soon as option pressed in grub, or after boot screen, it accesses hd for a split second, and then - blinking cursor and no other action
[02:50] <Craigwell> EriC^^, see the notes about sda3 here
[02:50] <Craigwell> http://pastebin.com/xu9EA7es
[02:51] <Craigwell> i think I'm going to try another clone now,
[02:51] <Craigwell> turning off "grub install" parameter,
[02:52] <Craigwell> will allow automatically adjust filesystem geometry for ntfs boot partition,
[02:52] <Craigwell> but i don't know what " sfdisk uses chs of hard drive from edd (for non-grub boot loader) is all about
[02:52] <Craigwell>  think i'll turn that off
[02:53] <Craigwell> i think if i go -q1, that might bring dd into it.
[02:53] <Craigwell> i can also tell it to NOT clone boot loader,
[02:54] <EriC^^> Craigwell: this might be relevant http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695733
[02:54] <Craigwell> long story short, i think there are several parameters i can toggle off
[02:57] <EriC^^> Craigwell: also seems relevant http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2012-05/msg00017.html
[02:58] <Craigwell> that first link was interesting, i have exactly same issue
[02:58] <Craigwell> moving on to the next link now
[03:00] <Craigwell> hmmm  boot info script. I'll give that a whirl
[03:00] <Matthew_Kim> hello~
[03:00] <EriC^^> Craigwell: he said he fixed his issue using UBCD http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2012-05/msg00021.html
[03:01] <Craigwell> on it
[03:10] <Craigwelll> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YOsBjiAz/IMG_1575.JPG
[03:10] <Craigwelll> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cCB4EnuY/IMG_1549.JPG
[03:10] <Craigwell> sorry, second link shows my choice of parameters in clonezilla.
[03:12] <Craigwell> that is the default options that are toggled, i think i might change some of them and try again
[03:12] <Craigwell> not sure making a ubcd boot usb is worth the effort, seems quite dated
[03:14] <x2f> hey, what do i do if a hacker puts a backdoor trojan on my computer, and the mouse starts moving by itself
[03:14] <x2f> it's really weird, like one time
[03:14] <x2f> i went to use the bathroom, and when i came back, they opened up paint and drew a square
[03:14] <zorbsOne> Does anyone know why my wifi would disconnect randomly after a few days of being connected?
[03:15] <x2f> ?
[03:15] <Craigwell> x2f, reminds me of the script kiddies about 20 years ago lol
[03:15] <Craigwell> when mIRC was all the rage
[03:15] <x2f> what do i do, can they turn on the computer in the middle of the night if i don't unplug the network cable?
[03:15] <reisio> because: wifi
[03:15] <Craigwell> x2f, go into bios make sure wake on lan is disabled lol
[03:16] <x2f> Craigwell did script kiddies actually do that?
[03:16] <x2f> take over a computer with backdoor orifice, open notepad and type weird stuff
[03:16] <x2f> 20 years ago
[03:16] <neurot> only in windows right
[03:16] <x2f> Ya
[03:17] <Craigwell> x2f, yes windows lol
[03:17] <x2f> tataye's Beast
[03:17] <zorbsOne> reisio: that's not very encouraging.
[03:17] <Craigwell> neurot, yes windows lol
[03:17] <reisio> zorbsOne: what's the adapter?
[03:17] <zorbsOne> reisio: Atheros?
[03:17] <neurot> lol cool
[03:18] <Craigwell> zorbsOne, i know the broadcom adapter in my dells is finicky at times. wake from suspend, it won't connect. suspend it again, it will connect.. about 1 in 20 times
[03:18] <Craigwell> ubuntu and broadcom: problematic
[03:18] <zorbsOne> craigwell: well, I don't have a suspend setup or anything...
[03:18] <Craigwell> proprietary
[03:19] <Craigwell> zorbsOne, if you have broadcom wireless, it can be random, is all i'm saying
[03:19]  * zorbsOne nods
[03:19] <x2f> Don't pirate software
[03:19] <x2f> because next thing you know, you have a backdoor trojan and a script kiddie is typing creepy stuff in your google search bar
[03:20] <x2f> right in front of you
[03:20] <SchrodingersScat> !ot
[03:20] <x2f> happened to me
[03:20] <reisio> zorbsOne: internal?
[03:20] <zorbsOne> reisio: yep.
[03:20] <zorbsOne> reisio: I don't wanna mess around with ndiswrapper.
[03:21] <zorbsOne> :(
[03:21] <reisio> hey a frownie
[03:21] <reisio> and here I was in #babysitchildren
[03:22] <zorbsOne> lol
[03:22] <Craigwell> :-(
[03:23] <Craigwell> i feel the frownie bro
[03:23] <Lildirt> So, I'm looking to switch from normal Ubuntu to Kubuntu (I prefer KDE), can I just format the current Ubuntu partition and then install Kubuntu on it or do I need to do something special?
[03:23] <Lildirt> I'm asking because I have Windows 7 installed alongside Ubuntu right now.
[03:23] <Lildirt> I'm aware that formatting Ubuntu will remove GRUB and I'll just kinda have to wait for it to be reinstalled with Kubuntu.
[03:23]  * zorbsOne is a lil old frownster.
[03:25] <Ben64> Lildirt: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <Craigwelll>  /join #windows
[03:26] <Craigwelll> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/I382NVP6/1432178772.JPG
[03:26] <Lildirt> wait I can do that?
[03:26] <xubuntu_> TEM ALGUEM AI
[03:26] <Lildirt> I did not know it was a package.
[03:27] <Lildirt> What do I do about ubuntu-desktop then? It's safe to just make it gtfo at that point?
[03:27] <xangua> !pt | xubuntu_ please no caps
[03:28] <Craigwell> oops. ignore doppelganger
[03:37] <smokeless> I have an HP stream 13 notebook, and it came with a 4g card in it. I can't seem to get it working, any help would be appreciated.
[03:40] <Craigwell> smokeless, can you identify the hardware?
[03:40] <Craigwell> i.e., who makes the 4g card?
[03:41] <smokeless> craigwell, probably with lsusb but I'm not really sure what I'm looking for
[03:43] <Kartagis> trying to copy files to my phones result in operation unsupported
[03:43] <Craigwell> smokeless, process of elimination.
[03:43] <Craigwell> shouldnt be too bad
[03:43] <Craigwell> once you know hardware maker, go from there
[03:43] <Kartagis> how can I fix it?
[03:44] <ElGatoSaez> ¿Anyone knows if i can run Ubuntu TV on Trusty Tahr?
[03:45] <smokeless> craigwell, HP hs3114 HSPA+ Mobile Broadband Device
[03:47] <Craigwell> smokeless, hmmm looks like an issue https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/178817
[03:49] <smokeless> craigwell, hmmm. http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.general/111692 seems to think that it can be made to work with usbserial
[03:49] <smokeless> craigwell, unfortunately that's a little beyond my linuxing
[03:49] <Craigwell> smokeless, read this.. reminds me of when i was using a sony ericsson 3g stick back in the day..... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/838757
[03:49] <Hilikus> my update got stuck doing this:
[03:49] <Hilikus> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 3.19.0-18-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-18-generic
[03:49] <Hilikus> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.19.0-18-generic
[03:50] <Hilikus> any ideas how to recover from that?
[03:50] <Craigwell> smokeless, i've been down that road.. a bit of tinkering and then ..voila.. it's not so bad
[03:51] <Craigwell> smokeless, start with getting usbserial,
[03:51] <chipmadness> Guys i have a quick question. I am running the new Ubuntu 15 (Kernel 3.9 *I think*) and back in Ubuntu 14, i had video drivers, but now when i go into additional drivers, my wireless card is only there. No video drivers. does the new kernel do something with the video?
[03:52] <Craigwell> vendor/product is nothing beyond the code at the top of the page
[03:52] <chipmadness> Kernel 3.19*
[03:52] <Craigwell> i.e. 03f0:521d
[03:52] <Craigwell> lsusb can tell you that, or device manager in windoes
[03:53] <ElGatoSaez> ¿anyone knows if i can run Ubuntu TV on TRUSTY TAHR?
[03:54] <smokeless> craigwell let me lsusb again
[03:55] <smokeless> craigwell, idvendor 0x03f0 product 0x541d
[03:57] <Craigwell> smokeless, this is what i used before
[03:57] <Craigwell> http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/
[03:58] <Craigwell> i believe it will work for you
[03:58] <sallu> AnyOne here
[03:59] <Craigwell> yup. still here
[03:59] <sallu> i am having serious issues ubuntu
[03:59] <reisio> nope
[03:59] <sallu> craig thanks GOd
[03:59] <sallu> reisio thanks
[03:59] <sallu> i was about to make some changes to grub 2
[03:59] <sallu> actually i made some changes
[04:00] <sallu> but now i am afraid i am having some issues in the grub. i am so much afraid of not restarting the laptop
[04:00] <reisio> nothing to be afraid of
[04:00] <reisio> can fix most anything from the live OS
[04:00] <sallu> because if i restart and something wrong in the grub then i will not be able to use windows or ubuntu anyway
[04:01] <reisio> sure you will, after you fix it
[04:01] <sallu> reisio ok i tell you what i did
[04:02] <neurot> grub customizer a see if it all looks good
[04:02] <sallu> reisio, actually i was searching the option of having windows 7 by default selected
[04:02] <sallu> and i saw a post who says to make changes
[04:03] <Craigwell> hahah
[04:03] <sallu> sudo update-grub
[04:03] <sallu> sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[04:03] <Craigwell> sallu: before you do anything, make sure you have a liveusb and know how to boot from it
[04:03] <Craigwell> * anything else
[04:03] <sallu> GRUB_DEFAULT=”Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1″
[04:04] <sallu> Craigwell, yeah definetly . you reminded me. thanks. actually i installed ubuntu few hours ago from flash drive. i still have that one
[04:05] <sallu> Craigwell, did you see that. only three commands to make few changes to grub. do you think i might have the chance of corrupt grub now?
[04:06] <Craigwell> always a chance, but the restore is very easy
[04:06] <Craigwell> it's not a big deal.
[04:06] <Craigwell> hang on a sec
[04:06] <sallu> i am afraid so
[04:07] <Craigwell> this will work from liveusb:
[04:07] <Craigwell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:07] <Craigwell> write down that link
[04:08] <Craigwell> if you reboot and grub doesnt work, use the liveusb and follow those commands to install boot-repair
[04:08] <sallu> Craigwell, from the flash drive i installed ubuntu few hours ago. do you refer this to as Live USB too? right?
[04:08] <Craigwell> takes only a couple minutes
[04:08] <Craigwell> sallu: correct
[04:08] <sallu> ahan
[04:08] <Craigwell> flash drive is the liveusb yes
[04:08] <sallu> Craigwell, i am going to again run the command
[04:09] <sallu> sudo update-grub
[04:09]  * Craigwell wishes grub was his only problem
[04:09] <Craigwell> my clone almost finished.
[04:10] <sallu> that was the error /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 6: /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[04:10] <sallu> oh my God
[04:11] <Craigwell> didn't like the parenthesis?
[04:11] <Craigwell> i didn't bother looking up the syntax of your changes lol
[04:11] <reisio> Craigwell: makes me want to watch sixth day
[04:12] <sallu> :(
[04:12] <Craigwell> reisio, hahaha
[04:13] <Craigwell> did you see this ? allow my doppelganger to present this image:
[04:13] <sallu> this error was not coming before running GRUB_DEFAULT=”Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1″
[04:13] <sallu> now i got the error
[04:13] <sallu> how am i gonna face this
[04:13] <Craigwelll> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oEbyYmpw/IMG_1575.JPG
[04:13] <Craigwell> reisio, i cloned the computer, instead of the hd :-(
[04:14] <sallu> i already saw the link of Craigwell regarding boot repair
[04:14] <sallu> do you think i should restart :(
[04:14] <reisio> dunno what you're even saying :p
[04:14] <reisio> just stop
[04:14] <Craigwell> yes sallu, if in doubt, restart. if it doesn't work, boot from flash drive and boot-repair. you can google it
[04:15] <sallu> ok i do it
[04:15] <Craigwell> or write down that link i posted to you above
[04:18] <Craigwell> starting to wonder if the d630 should be the daily driver over the d620
[04:18] <Craigwell> hmmm
[04:20] <Craigwell> meh
[04:22] <leonic> hello  can you tell me a emulator for play one ..>>??
[04:23] <Craigwell> hmm dual core 2ghz vs 1.66
[04:25] <Craigwell> 800 bus vs 666
[04:25] <Craigwell> sounds like a loaded k-car vs a plain jane one
[04:26] <rockstar_> Tried using Process Builder java to run sort. But I got this, any suggestion? - /usr/bin/sort: /usr/bin/sort: cannot execute binary file
[04:26] <Craigwell> 1985 lebaron vs a 1985 reliant?
[04:28] <SpeedrunnerG55> Hello, I am using ubuntu 14.04, and am havving troubble logging in after installing updates. After rebooting as required it won't let me login. I'll enter the password and itl look like its about to login but the login pages comes back. Same thing happens for guest login. Also ctrl alt f1 does nothing but freeze the screen
[04:33] <SpeedrunnerG55> I don't know what to do >.<
[04:50] <ironhoof> Is there a way to copy from an external drive (finding say all *.jpg) on that drive and move them to a local folder on the main drive
[04:52] <somsip> ironhoof: adapt this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/94767/how-to-find-certain-files-and-move-them-to-a-new-directory-in-the-same-command
[04:52] <ironhoof> Cool tries
[04:55] <locksmith2> heeeey
[05:00] <ironhoof> Success cool thanks!
[05:00] <somsip> ironhoof: np
[05:25] <xrmx56> Would a question about installing SteamOS in Ubuntu, specifically related to unzip, be related on-format for this channel?
[05:25] <bagginsDK> Hello, how can i disable all these ads on dash?
[05:25] <ARYAN1488> xrmx56: what would you like helo with?
[05:25] <ARYAN1488> help*
[05:26] <xrmx56> I downloaded the SteamOS beta installer and have a FAT32 stick, then I run this command in my downloads folder: unzip SteamOSInstaller.zip -d /dev/sdb1
[05:27] <xrmx56> and receive this error: "checkir: cannot create extraction directory: /dev/sdb1 File exists"
[05:27] <xrmx56> /dev/sdb1 is my USB
[05:27] <xrmx56> Not sure how to google this problem or where to go next
[05:28] <dipatiukur35> hi
[05:28] <xrmx56> @bagginsDK: check out: http://lifehacker.com/5953180/how-to-remove-amazon-ads-from-ubuntu-1210
[05:29] <somsip> !adlens | bagginsDK
[05:30] <bagginsDK> Will it remove also google drive search?
[05:31] <neurot> xrmx56 can you just unzip and drag and drop it into the USB
[05:33] <xrmx56> @neurot great question - I tried extracting to the usb with archive manager, and it seemed to work. But when I tried to boot it said the USB was not bootable
[05:33] <xrmx56> so I'm kind of mystified, I would think this would be a simple USB installation
[05:33] <neurot> its FAT32-formatted?
[05:34] <xrmx56> Yep, I just reformatted it to be sure.
[05:34] <Ben64> xrmx56: steamos is a distribution, you can't install a distribution on a distribution. you can install steam if you want by opening the ubuntu software center
[05:36] <neurot> xrmx56 Do you want steam OS the operating system or steam the program
[05:36] <xrmx56> @ben64, sorry wasn't clear. Using Ubuntu to download SteamOS beta, then put it on a FAT32 stick. Was going to install alongside Ubuntu. But this simple task is proving elusive
[05:36] <xrmx56> @neurot I was going to do SteamOS - there's a cool article in Linux Format on it this month and thought it would be cool to dual boot
[05:36] <ARYAN1488> why would you get steamos?
[05:36] <ARYAN1488> don't support steam they're evil and corrupt
[05:37] <neurot> cool
[05:37] <Ben64> xrmx56: then you should find steamos support for that
[05:37] <xrmx56> wait why
[05:37] <xrmx56> @ben64 yeah I think I'm starting to deviate from #ubuntu
[05:37] <ARYAN1488> i've had my account deactivated for no reason
[05:37] <ARYAN1488> i had bought 160 games
[05:37] <xrmx56> ah. well Stallman is "cautiously" for it
[05:37] <ARYAN1488> they're all gone
[05:37] <xrmx56> merde 160 games lost? i would hate it too
[05:37] <Ben64> ARYAN1488: not really on topic here
[05:38] <ARYAN1488> so don't use steam... buy physical games
[05:38] <ARYAN1488> Ben64: we're talking about steam os
[05:38] <Ben64> which isn't on topic here
[05:38] <xrmx56> yeah sorry guys
[05:38] <Ben64> xrmx56: but steamos is basically just a customized version of ubuntu, so i'm not sure why you'd need both?
[05:39] <xrmx56> because I'm addicted to installing linux flavors, basically
[05:39] <dipatiukur35> wow this channel is pretty active
[05:40] <dipatiukur35> i'm looking for an online multiplayer game, native to ubuntu. does anyone here have any suggestion?
[05:42] <yclingid> hi
[05:42] <dipatiukur35> hi
[05:42] <yclingid> anybody knows how to complete remove wine using terminal?
[05:42] <xrmx56> @dipatiukur35 - here's a thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455706
[05:42] <yclingid> to completely remove
[05:43] <yclingid> thanks you
[05:43] <Ben64> yclingid: sudo apt-get purge wine
[05:43] <xrmx56> never played many games on ubuntu except wesnoth and nethack
[05:44] <dipatiukur35> i'm learning wesnoth atm
[05:44] <zefyr> dude, team fortress
[05:44] <zefyr> thats my game
[05:44] <neurot> yclingid did you install wine from the software Center?
[05:44] <yclingid> hi neurot just tried the command line given by Ben64, it works like a charm
[05:45] <yclingid> thanks Ben64
[05:45] <dipatiukur35> i'm actually looking for games that can be played with old hardware
[05:45] <dipatiukur35> i'm on a 2008 laptop
[05:45] <ARYAN1488> wanna hear a cool song?
[05:45] <xrmx56> 2008 gives you tons of options
[05:46] <neurot> sorry i did not see Ben64 post :-)
[05:46] <zefyr> only the video card should be say.... last 5 years
[05:46] <dipatiukur35> i'll stick to wesnoth for now, but i'm still open for suggestions
[05:47] <xrmx56> @dipatiukr35 actually come to think of it, your best bet is the Humble Bundle
[05:47] <xrmx56> They have lots of great games
[05:47] <zefyr> i bought a bundle. love that gears game
[05:47] <xrmx56> not native to ubuntu, although I'm not really sure what you mean by that anyway, definitely runs on linux
[05:47] <dipatiukur35> what's humble bundle?
[05:48] <dipatiukur35> a software package?
[05:48] <gavmatic> i recently processed a kernel upgrade/ubuntu, and it seems it has caused issue with my LVM crypt swap, as the previous password does not work, is this a known issue?
[05:48] <xrmx56> Humble Bundle groups together a bunch of indy games, and it's usually linux friendly: https://www.humblebundle.com/
[05:48] <zefyr> a bundle of software for a great price. basically what you want to pay
[05:48] <zefyr> usually they a a couple of great games in the bundle
[05:48] <dipatiukur35> i'll have a look at it
[05:48] <zefyr> have^
[05:49] <ARYAN1488> ask yourself... if other races were as good as white people then how come white people are better than them intellectually... how come niggers haven't contributed to society since inventing the spear?
[05:49] <zefyr> omg
[05:49] <zefyr> hitler iz dat you?

[05:50] <dipatiukur35> lol
[05:50] <zefyr> that eli whitney, boy
[05:50] <xrmx56> ok, going to try to reboot w this Usb now, later
[05:50] <neurot> xrmx56 good luck
[05:51] <dipatiukur35> xrmx56: good luck
[05:51] <zefyr> man, it was all nice and then Boom
[05:51] <neurot> hitler Ubuntu topics only
[05:51] <ARYAN1488> i wish i was hitler... that man has so much integrity
[05:51] <xrmx56> See you guys later, thanks for the great convo (minus that last trolling part) see ya
[05:52] <neurot> sweet
[05:52] <dipatiukur35> zefyr: are you somewhat related to the ubuntu help team?
[05:52] <yclingid> anybody knows c language here?
[05:52] <ARYAN1488> yclingid: i do :)
[05:53] <zefyr> no no
[05:53] <ARYAN1488> what do you need help with?
[05:53] <zefyr> I use Ubuntu. but Im a retired programmer
[05:53] <yclingid> hi aryan1488, i learned all the c basic, from a to z, but i don't know where should i go from here
[05:53] <zefyr> feel bad that Ive never contributed
[05:53] <ARYAN1488> that's simple :)
[05:53] <dipatiukur35> zefyr: so you're just a normal person who happens to stumble upon this channel?
[05:53] <dipatiukur35> lol
[05:53] <ARYAN1488> yclingid: you'd like to start solving programming puzzles :D
[05:54] <zefyr> no, i come here often but usually dont say anything
[05:54] <yclingid> i heard people said you can do anything with c , but after i spent like 3 days learning c from the book by denny ritchie, all i can do is the basic c command, that's it
[05:54] <dipatiukur35> that's one step towards being a stalker, lol
[05:54] <yclingid> i still can't feel the power of c language
[05:55] <zefyr> C is ugly, but God the powah!
[05:55] <ARYAN1488> yclingid: http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/~liberti/public/computing/prog/c/C/PROBLEMS/problems.html
[05:55] <ARYAN1488> that should give you some fun stuff to do
[05:55] <yclingid> i'll check it out ARYAN1488
[05:55] <ARYAN1488> 23/16 brother!
[05:56] <gavmatic> shh haie son, anyone care to look at my question
[05:57] <dipatiukur35> gavmatic: what question?
[05:57] <gavmatic> i recently processed a kernel upgrade/ubuntu, and it seems it has caused issue with my LVM crypt swap, as the previous password does not work, is this a known issue?
[05:57] <dipatiukur35> oh, sorry can't help you with that
[05:58] <zefyr> the encryption, the kernel, these questions matter
[05:58] <zefyr> were you hasty?
[05:58] <yclingid> Today is the first day where I completely replace windows 8 with ubuntu, bye bye windows
[05:58] <gavmatic> 3.16, crypt (LUKS) container
[05:59] <PANDU> HI HOW TO UPDATE KERNEL IN UBUNTU
[05:59] <zefyr> sounds like it should all work.
[05:59] <gavmatic> alright thanks, i'll look around, probably just an older key
[06:00] <dipatiukur35> what irc clients do you guys use?
[06:01] <abaddon> Does anyone know how to get Nvidia drivers to keep its settings? It seems to ignore xorg.conf even thnough it is being written to it....
[06:01] <eebrah> dipatiukur35: irssi
[06:01] <abaddon> dipatiukur35, I'm using xchat. but weechat is cool too. weechat is a terminal based irc client
[06:01] <PANDU>  HOW TO UPDATE KERNEL IN UBUNTU
[06:02] <dipatiukur35> i'm on irssi
[06:02] <abaddon> dipatiukur35, in windows i use hexchat
[06:02] <dipatiukur35> still trying to get the hang of it though
[06:02] <Ben64> PANDU: stop yelling, just open the software updater
[06:03] <dipatiukur35> do you know how i can get irssi to notify me whenever someone mentions my nick?
[06:03] <dipatiukur35> or is there no such feature?
[06:04] <dipatiukur35> i imagine there's only a highlight feature
[06:05] <yclingid> quit
[06:05] <yclingid> q
[06:07] <somsip> dipatiukur35: it works when someone does this
[06:08] <dipatiukur35> yeah it lights up with a yellow color
[06:08] <dipatiukur35> someone previously used @dipatiukur35 though, and it didn't work
[06:08] <dipatiukur35> maybe i'll have to go through the settings a bit deeper
[06:09] <somsip> dipatiukur35: irc is not twitter. But it is ubuntu support, so no more offtopic chat please
[06:09] <vlt> dipatiukur35: I’m sure among the hundreds of (perl) scripts available for irssi there’s somethingthat does that.
[06:09] <dipatiukur35> okay, thanks
[06:12] <azizLIGHT> what things should i backup before i run this kind of update involving linux headers and image? http://i.imgur.com/B5T3jkL.png
[06:15] <anil_> i am having a trouble in opening hard drives in ubuntu...
[06:16] <anil_> it is showing Failed to mount "ani........."
[06:16] <anil_> please help
[06:16] <vinod777> hi
[06:17] <somsip> anil_: post the full command you are using and the full error message
[06:17] <vinod777> can I install the same Ubuntu 15.04 on two separate partitions? I am thinking of one being for testing purposes
[06:17] <somsip> vinod777: if you boot independently from them, yes
[06:17] <vinod777> ok, thanks
[06:18] <tom_> can anyone give the name of a good app for ripping dvds?
[06:18] <anil_> i am ubuntu studio and it has gui..when i double click on drive i am getting error mounting /dev/sda7 at /media/anil/ani..........
[06:21] <anil_> anyone help me..?
[06:22] <dipatiukur35> sorry anil_ can't help you
[06:22] <dipatiukur35> i have a question though:
[06:22] <Seveas> anil_: it helps if you show the actual error...
[06:22] <anil_> why buddy?
[06:22] <Seveas> tom_: dvdrip
[06:22] <anil_> ok then i am posting full error message..
[06:23] <anil_> Error mounting /dev/sda7 at /media/anil/ani.........: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda7" "/media/anil/ani........."' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[06:23] <anil_> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[06:23] <anil_> Failed to mount '/dev/sda7': Operation not permitted
[06:23] <anil_> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[06:23] <anil_> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[06:23] <Ben64> !paste | anil_
[06:23] <dipatiukur35> i am connected to the internet using a mobile broadband usb stick. i would like to share this connection with my phone using my wireless adapter. how can i do that? using xubuntu 15
[06:23] <Seveas> azizLIGHT: notwithstanding the regular advice of always having backups, there's no special need to back up things for that upgrade, kernel upgrades are safe.
[06:23] <Seveas> anil_: well, the solution is right there in the error.
[06:24] <azizLIGHT> Seveas: if you had to backup stuff, what else would you backup, besides grub.cfg
[06:24] <Seveas> azizLIGHT: I back up everything
[06:24] <Seveas> (well, modulo some useless caching bits)
[06:25] <anil_> thogh i didn't understand friend..
[06:25] <azizLIGHT> i think what im asking is what configuration files is the update going to mess with that will prevent a boot. grub.cfg being one of them, are there others?
[06:25] <azizLIGHT> ive had problems purging old kernels and not being able to boot
[06:25] <azizLIGHT> id rather not go through that again
[06:25] <Seveas> anil_: boot windows and shut it down (don't hibernate, don't suspend)
[06:27] <oal_> I've rebooted my computer 10 times now, and it doesn't ever get to the desktop. The screen is black, with a white bare at the top. No mouse pointer or anything. I think it's the Nvidia driver. How can I disable it from a Live USB by accessing my harddrive from there?
[06:29] <Hacktheplanet> hi
[06:29] <Hacktheplanet> who r there?
[06:29] <azizLIGHT> hi
[06:29] <Hacktheplanet> want to do some hacking...
[06:29] <somsip> Hacktheplanet: this is a support channel. Do you have a question?
[06:29] <Hacktheplanet> ohh sorry
[06:30] <anil_> thank you seveas......
[06:30] <anil_> i am able to open now....
[06:35] <action09> hi ! on LTS with virtuablox repos, i've got: "Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMSError! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-53-generic (x86_64)
[06:35] <action09> "
[06:36] <action09> :(  Do i need to uninstall vbox repos and get back to ubuntu repos for vbox ? as a starting point ?
[06:36] <yclingid> test
[06:37] <action09> yep :)


[00:00] <steve667> sorry for connecting/disconnecting, was in a couple of meetings due to that haha so, si that kernel patched to retpoline, maybe the script just didn't detected it (and since it's production, they don't let me compile the kernel by myself  so my options were: install xenial kernel on trusty if it's going to be stable or wait for a kernel release with the spectre variant 2). sorry for being obnoxius
[00:00] <steve667> hehehehe
[04:46] <steve667> Found the changelog https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.13.0-142.191
[04:46] <steve667> thanks TJ :D
[17:17] <Moral_> Is there a possiblilty to submit a patch that is not upstreamed?
[17:17] <Moral_> I was originally going to backport a patch, as we thought Bjorn had taken it but turns out he is running slow on patches.
[21:08] <apw> Moral_, yes, it is not impossible to submit patches which are not upstream, we prefer them upstream where possible
[21:09] <Moral_> Yeah, that's what I thought. I think someone on my team is  attending an Intel->ubutnu meeting next week we'll bring it up there.


[11:28] <v0lZy77> hello
[11:29] <v0lZy77> I have an issue with a Ubuntu vm. The boot process drops me into initramfs after reporting that mkdir can't create directory '/root/lib/modules': Read only filesystem. See screenshot https://pasteboard.co/vKNHa2wowipT.png
[11:32] <guiverc> v0lZy77, you've not provided any OS/release details; is it a Lubuntu system?  the /root/lib/ directory makes no sense to me? nor /scripts/init-..  what OS?
[11:32] <v0lZy77> it's a ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS
[11:32] <v0lZy77> Vionic Veaver
[11:32] <v0lZy77> Bionic Beaver I mean
[11:33] <guiverc> The oldest supported release of Lubuntu is 20.04 LTS; 18.04 is EOL https://lubuntu.me/bionic-eol/
[11:33] <v0lZy77> I understand its EOL, i'd just like to get the machine to boot
[11:34] <v0lZy77> Seems this happened in the VM with a power out ... and I needed to boot a livecd and fsck the root partition (twice in a row) to get to this point
[11:34] <guiverc> we don't support it; #ubuntu still provides bionic/18.04 support for main Ubuntu... Lubuntu & all flavors are now EOL; you can use `ubuntu-support-status` to confirm what parts of your system are still supported.
[11:35] <v0lZy77> I asked there initially and they suggested I ask here
 Is your VM Ubuntu or Lubuntu?
[11:37] <guiverc> okay I note sm2's suggestion to come here   (I don't see why though)
[11:38] <v0lZy77> It's a Ubuntu
[11:39] <kc2bez> You were in the right channel to begin with then. I suggest continuing there.
[11:40] <v0lZy77> Not a lot of people seem to engage in the question there...
[11:40] <v0lZy77> Can I ask here perhaps, about this part of the boot process (is probably identical in newer versions)
[11:41] <v0lZy77> From what I understand, initramfs is supposed to be just enough OS to mount the partitions and start a login process...
[11:41] <kc2bez> Your setup doesn't look like our default setup. It looks like you have a BTRFS Raid.
[11:41] <guiverc> No it isn't; Ubuntu now ensures boot processes are the same for all architectures for a single release; ie. 21.10 boots the same for s390x, amd64, arm64, ppc64el  -- but that's differently to 20.04 for example...
[11:43] <kc2bez> Read only usually implies unclean mounting and shut down.
[11:43] <v0lZy77> kc2bez[m]: driver for raid6 is loaded during loading essential drivers, but system doesnt have raid ... I mean, I can't see how it could. theres only /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda1 (the first of which is ext4 and the second of which is bios boot)
[11:44] <v0lZy77> Theres a message 'Scanning for Btrfs filesystems' followed by 2 lines .. .one about print_req_error: I/O errror, dev fd0, sector'
[11:45] <v0lZy77> and the other floppy: error 10 while reading block 0
[11:45] <v0lZy77> after that, there's a warning about 'fsck not present, so skipping root file system'
[11:45] <v0lZy77> and then it mountds ext4-fs (sda2) with ordered data mode. opts: (null)
[11:45] <v0lZy77> Then this /scripts/local-bottom
[11:46] <v0lZy77> And after that /scripts/init-bottom ... mkdir: can't create directory '/root/lib/modules': read only file system.... this root is obviously the /
[11:47] <v0lZy77> And if i do mount, i see that its in fact mounted RO... initramfs is trying to create /lib/modules on /, but because its RO it can't
[11:48] <v0lZy77> To me this suggests that the system should be mounted RW ... I dont know how to edit initramfs to do that.
[11:50] <v0lZy77> im looking at the /init script in initramfs ... and it has a piece of code that says: if ! validate_init "${init} ; then panic "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg." ; fi .... which is the error I get before dropping into initramfs
[11:51] <v0lZy77> function validate_init() { run-init -n "${rootmnt}" "${1}" }
 Everytime I try to use ATP... And I didn't manage to find a solution yet... : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/129599f0/file_4108.jpg
[16:42] <fx__> Hi, I've tried to install elinks, then I got
[16:42] <fx__> ```
[16:42] <fx__> Err:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 libfsplib0 amd64 0.14-1
[16:42] <fx__>   Connection failed [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8001::24 80]
[16:42] <fx__> E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/fsplib/libfsplib0_0.14-1_amd64.deb  Connection failed [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8001::24 80]
[16:42] <fx__> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[16:44] <oerheks> fx try again in a few minutes, and run apt update again
[16:44] <oerheks> if that does not work, change mirror?
 how can I mount iso files in lubuntu 20.04?
[17:35] <oerheks> double click on the iso, it gets mounted in /media/  ?
 doesn't work
 i can open it only with ark, k3b and VLC
 hello?
[18:48] <fx__> @oerheks I've changed the mirror, problem solved! why the official mirror `wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/...` after the `/f` directory `The connection was reset`?
[18:51] <fx__> @oerheks https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/ works fine
[21:33] <faLUKE> hello. I need a text editor for C programming on Lubuntu. I tried "kate", which has a panel reserved for the terminal (konsole), on which I can execute the compiling commands. However, konsole is very buggy. Is there an alternative or a way to fix this? IDEs like code::blocks are overkill


[11:40] <AskUbuntu> Juju/MAAS in vSphere to test OpenStack | http://askubuntu.com/q/364332
[16:41] <alok_> Question: I am trying to do a test install of MAAS on virtualbox. I am able to get as far as the MAAS gui and am able to manually add a node. However once I add the first node it appears to shut down and the gui shows a status of commissioning but appears to be stuck. Can anyone suggest steps to troubleshoot?
[16:51] <alok_> Does anyone have suggestions or links to troubleshoot a MAAS configuration? (see question above)
[17:51] <roaksoax> smoser: ping
[17:51] <roaksoax> smoser: getting this error when using juju/maas from cloud-archive: cloud-init.log:Oct 23 17:47:26 node01 [CLOUDINIT] cc_apt_update_upgrade.py[WARNING]: Source Error: deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.c
[17:52] <roaksoax> om/ubuntu precise-updates/cloud-tools main:failed to get key from keyserver.ubuntu.com
[17:52] <roaksoax> cloud-init-output.log:2013-10-23 17:47:26,606 - cc_apt_update_upgrade.py[WARNING]: Source Error: deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com
[17:53] <mgz> roaksoax: there's a package in precise that contains the key
[17:57] <roaksoax> mgz: yep.. but this should have been added automatically
[17:58] <mgz> by whom? :)
[17:58] <roaksoax> mgz: cloud-init?
[17:58] <roaksoax> mgz: this is a juju bootstrap
[17:59] <mgz> roaksoax: (arguably by us...)
[18:00] <roaksoax> mgz: I'm using precise with cloud-archive:tools. juju on the bootstrap node cannot start because it failed to add the repository, hence failed to install juju/mongodb from cloud-archive:tools
[18:02] <smoser> roaksoax, where are you?
[18:02] <roaksoax> smoser: regency b
[18:04] <mgz> smoser: he's like, right next to you... unless you just arrived? :)
[18:04] <smoser> roaksoax, nothing should have hit keyserver.ubuntu.com
[18:04] <smoser> i just arrived. thanks
[18:05] <roaksoax> smoser: deploying again, should take a couple minutes so you can debug :)
[18:17] <roaksoax> smoser: bug #1243861
[18:18] <roaksoax> jamespage: bug #1243861
[18:20] <roaksoax> mgz: do you work on this stuff? 1243861
[18:20] <roaksoax> mgz: do you work on this stuff? bug @1243861
[18:21] <roaksoax> mgz: do you work on this stuff? bug #1243861
[18:21] <smoser> mgz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-core/+bug/1243861
[18:37] <mgz> smoser: thanksyous
[21:16] <jtv> smoser: does this satisfy your need for creating users?  https://code.launchpad.net/~jtv/maas/api-add-user/+merge/192403
[21:18] <roaksoax> jtv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maas/+bug/1243917
[21:18] <roaksoax> :)
[21:19] <jtv> roaksoax: annoying.
[21:19] <roaksoax> :(
[21:19] <jtv> Looks easy.
[21:19] <jtv> Not related to what I just did, but if it hurts that much in practice, it's low-hanging fruit.
[21:22] <roaksoax> jtv: doesn't really but gaughen just found it :)
[21:23] <jtv> We can't make the email address optional, but we can make the error message clearer and document the requirement.
[21:37] <gaughen> jtv, it's the first bug I filed!
[21:39] <fizzi> hi all, i have just configure my mass controller ...
[21:40] <fizzi> i started one node ...
[21:40] <fizzi> the pxe work and the installation
[21:40] <fizzi> run
[21:40] <fizzi> but i retrive an error ... occurred when download packages
[21:41] <jtv> What kind of error?
[21:41] <fizzi> could not retrieve package from it.archive....
[21:41] <jtv> And... downloading packages onto the node you were setting up?  Or while downloading PXE install images onto the cluster controller?
[21:42] <fizzi> i guest that some configuration coming from maas is invalid
[21:42] <fizzi> the first
[21:42] <jtv> Do your nodes have direct access to the Ubuntu archive?  Or do you need to go through a proxy?
[21:43] <fizzi> direct connection
[21:43] <fizzi> the problem is that the maas dhcp write a wrong dns (he)
[21:44] <fizzi> i just try to modify che maas dhcp file configuation
[21:44] <fizzi> but ...
[21:44] <fizzi> nothing
[21:45] <jtv> No, modifying the DHCP config file shouldn't work — that gets rewritten.
[21:46] <fizzi> i try all of this in vmware esx 5 env
[21:47] <fizzi> but i dont think that esx can be a problem
[21:47] <fizzi> some suggestion
[21:47] <fizzi> some indication?
[21:47] <fizzi> thanks jtv
[21:47] <jtv> Sounds like MAAS_URL was not set right.
[21:48] <fizzi> '
[21:48] <fizzi> ?
[21:48] <jtv> The nodes use a proxy installed on the region controller.
[21:49] <jtv> But to get that working properly, they need to know the IP address where _they_ can reach the region controller.
[21:49] <jtv> This may be a different address from where you'd normally access the MAAS UI.
[21:49] <fizzi>  but this work fine i think
[21:49] <fizzi> ah
[21:49] <fizzi> i need 2 eth?
[21:50] <bigjools> MAAS_URL is the *internal* node-facing IP by which nodes can reach it
[21:50] <bigjools> it is also the dns server address
[21:50] <jtv> Oh, are you running everything on the same network?
[21:50] <jtv> Is MAAS managing the DHCP?
[21:50] <fizzi> yes MAAS manage dhcp
[21:50] <fizzi> yes i run now all for the same network
[21:51] <jtv> OK...
[21:51] <jtv> Is there anything else you can tell us about the incorrect DNS server address you saw in the DHCP config?
[21:52] <jtv> For example, was it the wrong address but on your network, or was it some completely different IP..?
[21:52] <fizzi> the problem is that is the same ip of MAAS ... but he can only resolv cluster nodes i think
[21:52] <fizzi> no no
[21:53] <fizzi> is the MAAS ip
[21:53] <fizzi> for example <IP_ADDRESS>/MAAS
[21:53] <jtv> That should be OK (assuming you let MAAS manage DNS as well)
[21:53] <bigjools> http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/configure.html#client-side-dns-configuration
[21:53] <fizzi> the nodes are set in resolv.conf <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:55] <jtv> You shouldn't have the nodes in there AFAIK...
[21:55] <fizzi> but i wont install the ubuntu 12.04lts form maas ... is there a way ?
[21:55] <jtv> Well let's find out what exactly the problem is.
[21:56] <jtv> If you have the nodes in resolv.conf, that's going to confuse things.
[21:56] <fizzi> i think ... (not maas expert) ... the dns configuration
[21:56] <jtv> Ah
[21:56] <fizzi> from maas dhcp to nodes
[21:56] <jtv> Yes, MAAS writes the DNS configuration, and the nodes should be in there.
[21:56] <jtv> Right.
[21:57] <fizzi> yes
[21:57] <fizzi> but write incorrect
[21:57] <fizzi> dns
[21:57] <fizzi> for ubuntu installation i need to connect to internete
[21:57] <jtv> Yes, of course.
[21:57] <fizzi> and the maas ip ...(dns) not resolv internet addreses
[21:58] <fizzi> i work at NCR and we want test maas on some nodes
[21:59] <jtv> fizzi: sounds like the problem is that you're getting _only_ the DNS from the MAAS itself.
[21:59] <jtv> You _also_ need upstream DNS to resolve names on the internet.
[21:59] <fizzi> right
[22:00] <fizzi> the maas controller is ubuntu 12.04.03 LTS
[22:00] <fizzi> server 64bit 16gb ram
[22:00] <jtv> You can configure the DNS server in MAAS in /etc/maas/templates/dns/named.conf.template — MAAS uses that template file to rewrite the DNS config.
[22:01] <jtv> But I'm thinking if there's another way.
[22:01] <bigjools> you can set more than one nameserver in the resolv.conf
[22:01] <fizzi> yep
[22:04] <jtv> AIUI the nodes will download packages via the http proxy in MAAS...
[22:05] <jtv> So if you add a public DNS server to your resolv.conf on the MAAS server, this problem may be solved.
[22:05] <jtv> Because the nodes won't need to resolve the Ubuntu archive's hostname...  Only the MAAS server will have to do that.  I think.
[22:06] <fizzi> mmm
[22:06] <fizzi> i have this configuration
[22:06] <fizzi> and it doent work
[22:06] <fizzi> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:06] <fizzi> the second ip ... is the MAAS
[22:07] <fizzi> the first is the public dns
[22:07] <jtv> Ah, roaksoax is here and he tells me that _on 12.04_ it doesn't work the way I was hoping for yet.
[22:07] <jtv> (On 13.10 it does).
[22:08] <jtv> So back to that config template:
[22:08] <jtv> /etc/maas/templates/dns/named.conf.template
[22:08] <jtv> You'll need to configure a fallback DNS server there.
[22:08] <fizzi> i not have this file
[22:09] <fizzi> i have /usr/share/pyshared/provisioningserver/dns/templates/named.conf.template
[22:09] <jtv> Ah!
[22:09] <jtv> I took the path from the source tree.
[22:10] <fizzi> include "{{named_rndc_conf_path}}";  # Zone declarations. {{for zone in zones}} zone "{{zone.zone_name}}" {     type master;     file "{{zone.target_path}}"; }; {{endfor}}
[22:10] <fizzi> is this ?
[22:10] <jtv> That's it.
[22:10] <jtv> Yup.
[22:10] <fizzi> ok ...
[22:10] <fizzi> how change ?
[22:10] <jtv> I'm looking it up...
[22:12] <fizzi> question ... but i always need that the maas have maas-dns (bind9) running
[22:12] <fizzi> right=
[22:12] <fizzi> ?
[22:14] <jtv> You can do without, but then you won't have DNS hostnames for the nodes.
[22:14] <jtv> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r1274209-BIND-Question-Query-upstream-DNS-for-unknown-host may be helpful.
[22:14] <jtv> If it's OK to address your nodes by their IP addresses, then you don't need MAAS DNS.
[22:16] <fizzi> thanks for your time
[22:16] <fizzi> jtv:
[22:16] <jtv> Hope that helps!
[22:17] <fizzi> i try all of this tomorrow
[22:17] <roaksoax> fizzi: or you cloud install masa from the cloud-archive
[22:17] <roaksoax> and you wouldn't experience this issue
[22:17] <roaksoax> (i think)
[22:17] <roaksoax> s/masa/maas
[22:17] <fizzi> and i please past link roaksoax
[22:18] <roaksoax> fizzi: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties && sudo add-apt-repository cloud-archive:tools && sudo apt-get install maas (or you can do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade)
[22:19] <fizzi> but i think to upgrade to 13.04 that as jtv say not have this problem
[22:19] <roaksoax> fizzi: that will upgrade maas to its latest released version
[22:20] <fizzi> now i need to go...
[22:20] <roaksoax> fizzi: you would still run precise, but with latest maas version
[22:20] <fizzi> yep roaksoax
[22:20] <fizzi> ok i see
[22:20] <fizzi> i unsterstand
[22:20] <fizzi> bye at all
[22:20] <fizzi> regards,
[22:20] <roaksoax> bye
[22:21] <jtv> bye
[22:42] <AskUbuntu> Juju deploy of Charm (Mysql) in MAAS provider failing after successful bootstrap. Juju status stuck in "Pending" state | http://askubuntu.com/q/364714


[00:49] <teward> ... huh didn't know that autosyncs could ping me if i'm the maintainer in Debian o.O
[15:22] <hallyn> xnox: hi - there used to be a way to ask for cross arch builds on a ppa.  Is it still possible?  Can I get armhf and arm64 builds enabled for ppa:serge-hallyn/ubports?
[16:01] <fossfreedom> hallyn: if you are the ppa owner you can enable different processors via the launchpad ppa change details link
[16:03] <hallyn> orly.  thanks, lemme check
[16:04] <hallyn> (i thought in the past someone else had to enable that for me)
[16:04] <hallyn> (but maybe that was fast kernel builds)
[16:04] <hallyn> awesome - thanks
[17:36] <cjwatson> hallyn: It used to be something staff had to do before 2016ish
[17:37] <cjwatson> Ditto some builders being faster than others is no longer a thing
[17:38] <hallyn> cool, thanks, i enabled arm, all set.
[19:22] <joelkraehemann> hi all
[19:23] <joelkraehemann> how does an application enter 20.04 from debian testing?
[19:23] <joelkraehemann> when is the dead-line?
[19:25] <ginggs> joelkraehemann: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[19:26] <joelkraehemann> February 27th is Debian Import Freeze ...
[19:27] <joelkraehemann> thank you ginggs
[19:27] <ginggs> joelkraehemann: yw!  packages can enter after that date by requesting a feature-freeze-exception
[20:30] <hallyn> so i was able to upload the one package (okb-engine) to https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/ubuntu/ubports/+packages , but the other (okb-keyboard) seems to silently either be dropped or waiting on something.
[20:42] <hallyn> cjwatson: ^ where can i see whether the pkg is hung up on something?
[22:47] <cjwatson> hallyn: There've been a variety of network difficulties recently that have affected the build farm in various ways.  We're poking occasionally as vacation time permits
[22:47] <cjwatson> hallyn: Ah, but a missing upload is slightly different.  Moment
[22:48] <cjwatson> hallyn: Our logs say that we sent you an automatic rejection email
[22:49] <cjwatson> hallyn: I can pick it out of logs for you if need be, but it would probably be better if you checked whether email delivery to your preferred address registered on Launchpad works properly ...
[23:30] <hallyn> cjwatson: d'oh, yeah, *that* email.  thanks, i'll go find it.
[23:33] <hallyn> *blush* there is some nasty stuff among that email
[23:38] <cjwatson> Glad it was just misfiled rather than undelivered.


[19:45] <PabloRubianes> daker: this was the MR that you are waiting to get approved? https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-team-portal/fix.1273491/+merge/229522
[19:45] <PabloRubianes> because this https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/loco-team-portal/fix.777098/+merge/151644 is Work in progress


[00:38] <wintx> I seem to encounter some sort of problems while trying to talk in #ubuntu, could anyone help me out into figuring what could cause the specified problem?
[00:38] <wintx> The error code is obviously, == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu, thanks in advance, gentlemen.
[00:38] <Fuchs> wintx: you using webchat and changing your nick, I'd assume. By either using a real client instead, or rejoining from webchat  should help
[00:39] <wintx> I tried to rejoin, yet I seem to encounter the same problem each time I /part and /join
[00:39] <Fuchs> how webchat is handled is a bit special, I'll leave this case to actual ops then (I am just network staff), as said, using an actual client definitely would help.
[00:40] <wintx> Fuchs: Would empathy (packed in ubuntu 12.10) do the job for me, fellow gent?
[00:41] <Fuchs> wintx: would. It's not what I would recommend, based on my experience IM clients are horrible for IRC. I'd personally recommend something like hexchat/xchat which also comes packaged for ubuntu, but whatever suits you best
[00:41] <wintx> Fuchs: Loads of thanks.
[00:44] <nlux> Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[00:45] <nlux> ^Can any fellow gent give me a hand?
[00:47] <nlux> Fuchs: ^
[00:48] <Fuchs> there is a ban matching your host, set by floodbot
[00:48] <Fuchs> as I am not an ubuntu operator, I am afraid you have to wait until one of them is around, I wont override their bans, sorry
[00:48] <nlux> Of course, cause of name change.
[00:48] <nlux> Thanks Fuchs :)
[00:48] <Fuchs> You're welcome
[01:14] <nlux> Anyone?
[01:21] <elky> nlux, do you remember why you were banned?
[01:22] <nlux> elky frequently changing my name
[01:22] <elky> no
[01:22] <nlux> no?
[01:22] <elky> you put plenty of effort into trolling, so you should remember it.
[01:22] <nlux> trolling? is this a joke?
[01:22] <elky> why did you think it was the nick changing? what nicks did you use?
[01:22] <nlux> you think I don't have better things to do?
[01:22] <nlux> like setting up my rig?
[01:23] <nlux> 4 nicks.. first was registered
[01:23] <nlux> so I had to change it
[01:23] <nlux> it didn't show up so, I changed it again
[01:23] <elky> what were the actual nicks?
[01:24] <nlux> they were plainly random
[01:24] <nlux> related to the word lux.
[01:24] <elky>  2012-12-25T21:48:19 *** truefaith<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[01:25] <nlux> seems like that's me.
[01:25] <nlux><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:25] <elky> looks identical, including the hash bit at the front
[01:25] <nlux> but anyways what's the point?
[01:26] <elky>  2012-12-25T21:53:51 <truefaith> NoorideeNA: erase disk
[01:26] <elky>  2012-12-25T21:57:43 <truefaith> I still use 4.04
[01:26] <elky>  2012-12-25T22:04:50 <truefaith> NoorideeNA, of course, Ubuntu is Windows branch.
[01:26] <elky>  2012-12-25T22:06:07 <truefaith> ubottu: can you make me a sandwich?
[01:27] <elky> and so forth
[01:27] <nlux> I can't see the trolling part, kind sir.
[01:27] <nlux> And I really wrote those?
[01:27] <nlux> let me check the log
[01:27] <elky> if you can't see the trolling in those, then you're certainly not going back in, since you'll just continue
[01:28] <elky> anyway, i need to run to do some boxing day shopping. ciao
[01:29] <elky> someone else can pick up, after you've had some time to contemplate
[01:29] <nlux> if i am trying to install ubuntu in a Vbox what installation type shall i use, erase disk and install ubuntu or something else?
[01:29] <nlux> erase disk
[01:29] <nlux> can't see the trolling.
[01:30] <nlux> have fun elky
[01:31] <nlux> Meh. Can any one just tell me the ban length?
[01:38] <IdleOne> bans don't have a predetermined time limit
[01:38]  * nlux sighs.
[01:38] <nlux> My IP is going to reset.. so it is kinda tough
[01:38] <nlux> I don't want to break the rules..
[01:39] <IdleOne> I agree with elky that if you can't see the trolling in what you said in those lines elky pasted, then I don't see you being unbanned
[01:39] <nlux> I apologize for my actions, yet I really don't see the trolling part.
[01:39] <elky> nlux, there were 4 lines, not the one you're digging your heels in about
[01:40] <nlux> The fact that it's childish, yes I admit that
[01:40] <nlux> but trolling, I can't seem to be able to identify this.
[01:41] <elky> trolling is fairly broad, and we consider intentionally being annoying as trolling
[01:41] <elky> asking the bot for a sandwich after being told to stop trolling and agreeing to stop trolling, is trolling.
[01:41] <nlux> I didn't mean to be trolling, I didn't even knew trolling was against the rules. I don't even know what trolling implies, is it lying for personal amusement?
[01:42] <elky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
[01:42] <nlux> Because I don't consider this funny.
[01:42] <elky> In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community
[01:43] <elky> calling ubuntu a windows branch is inflammatory
[01:43] <nlux> I didn't really...
[01:43] <elky> declaring one's use of warty is rather inflammatory, but mostly extraneous.
[01:44] <elky> asking the bot for a sandwich is plainly offtopic for a tech support channel
[01:44] <nlux> Okay, I'm sorry. I'll try expressing my self in a less troll way from now onward
[01:44] <nlux> I was curious...
[01:44] <elky> IdleOne, ok, i really am heading off, can you pick this up?
[01:44] <IdleOne> sure
[01:44] <nlux> and yes I know I should have had queried ubottu
[01:44] <nlux> have fun elky
[01:45] <elky> be good ;)
[01:45] <IdleOne> nlux:  have a read of the following real quick please
[01:45] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[01:45] <nlux> pl
[01:45] <nlux> ok
[01:45] <nlux> thanks
[01:45] <IdleOne> I'll remove the ban in a moment
[01:46] <nlux> thanks for the guidelines. pretty helpful
[01:47] <IdleOne> nlux: Just a FYI there is alos #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to join and chit chat (same guidelines)
[01:47] <IdleOne> also*
[01:47] <nlux> This was a pretty bad start in here, can I still try to be a nice guy, and perhaps one day become a master of the universe? :)
[01:48] <IdleOne> perhaps one day if you master all the potions and spells
[01:48] <nlux> That really wasn't a trolling attempt...
[01:48] <IdleOne> the ban in #ubuntu has been removed.you will need to part and rejoin to be able to speak I believe
[01:48] <IdleOne> I know :)
[01:49] <nlux> Am I still able to apply for an irc channel operator after a few months of being a good citizen?
[01:49] <IdleOne> if/when there is a call for ops, sure.
[01:50]  * nlux hugs Idle0ne
[01:50] <nlux> thanks
[02:48] <elky> lolol
[02:49] <elky> i love it when they ask if they can be ops _as_ they are getting bans lifted
[05:41] <Flannel> !printing ~= s#https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows#https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu#
[16:42] <h00k> I'm rusty :(
[16:43] <bazhang> heh
[19:39] <theadmin> The !font factoid appears to be out of date, there no longer is a "msttcorefonts" package
[19:39] <theadmin> !font is <reply> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "ttf-mscorefonts-installer", "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/
[22:06] <IdleOne> !language > Uzi
[22:06] <IdleOne> 2nd warning I give them