[06:21] <[CC] Impsy> got it
[06:21] <Frem> gdb: I don't mind doing stuff manually, it's not a big deal. Thanks for the help.
[06:21] <Dyslexic> THANKS! finaly able to play video in firefox
[06:21] <[CC] Impsy> moving my mouse doesnt work tristan
[06:21] <gdb> Frem: Sure thing!  Good luck with that. :-)
[06:22] <[CC] Impsy> im at the desktop of ubuntu like cd and i cant more or anything
[06:22] <[CC] Impsy> *live
[06:22] <[CC] Impsy> *move
[06:22] <Doomhammer> where are the logs of system boot located? i'm not seeing them in /var/log ?
[06:22] <mianiak> tristanmike: i run the desktop cd and select install and it boots up in live mode
[06:22] <gdb>  Doomhammer: Is there supposed to be a boot log?
[06:22] <gdb> Doomhammer: I know Fedora has one, but I'm not aware of Ubuntu having one.
[06:22] <Doomhammer> gdb: yeah i got an error during boot, and i'm having weird problems, but it went by too fast for me to read it
[06:23] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: then what  Agent_bob said was, in a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:23] <[CC] Impsy> whats a terminal
[06:23] <mikedep333> can anyone help me with getting alt+F1 and alt+F2 to work in gnome on dapper? they work for me in KDE
[06:23] <[CC] Impsy> and where is it
[06:23] <Weirdbro> are there any good tutorials on how the Linux filesystem folders are set up?
[06:23] <rixth_> Agent_bob: any ideas? So I know the disk is OK
[06:23] <mikedep333> alt+F4 does work
[06:23] <tristanmike> mianiak: you should see an Install icon on the desktop
[06:23] <rixth_> But i still can't mount it normally
[06:23] <gdb> [CC] Impsy: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[06:23] <mikedep333> and those keys are set, and my keyboard model is set
[06:23] <[CC] Impsy> i cant move tho..
[06:23] <Doomhammer> my god KDE finally loaded... brb
[06:23] <[CC] Impsy> how am i gonna get to it
[06:23] <ralphie2006> how do I access a hard drive from a live cd?
[06:23] <[CC] Impsy> lol.
[06:23] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: alt=f1
[06:23] <gdb> Weirdbro: Honestly, anything that covers how Unix lays out the filesystem will be a good primer.
[06:23] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: alt-f1
[06:23] <rixth_> !tell ralphie2006 about mount
[06:23] <Weirdbro> Has anyone had problems with EasyUbuntu on Dapper?
[06:24] <BioVorE> Weirdbro: worked like a champ here
[06:24] <Agent_bob> rixth_ do you ?      run  sudo fsck /dev/sda5      and see what it says.
[06:24] <johnga1t> anyone know anything about bcm43xx_fwcutter under dapper?
[06:24] <mianiak> tristanmike: ok, but i mean this is hardly how it should be. ubuntu is great os, but sometimes i think its just a little to out there. i would prefer to install it the old way. but its ok, i will get used to it :)
[06:24] <ralphie2006> I get permission denied when I tried to mount with /dev/hda1 /mnt/hd1
[06:24] <qbar> tristanmike: I already have libquicktime0 installed
[06:24] <gdb> ralphie2006: Are you trying to mount it with root permissions or as your normal user account?
[06:25] <Frem> Weirdbro, It didn't do some of the things it said it would do when I first tried it, but it didn't break anything, and the last time I tried it was over a month ago. It's probably fine.
[06:25] <mikedep333> johnga1t: isn't bcm43xx the wlan driver that will not be in the kernel until 2.6.17?
[06:25] <Doomhammer> okay so why isn't there a bootup log ?
[06:25] <ralphie2006> sudo
[06:25] <tristanmike> mianiak: only because it's different :)  I thought it strange too, and it casued me to spend all night tearing my hair out, but all good in the end :)
[06:25] <rixth_> Agent_bob: Yeah, I know the disk is ok, you ,usn't have got this: if I use disks-admin, it temporairly mounts the disks, it reports the filesystem as vfat too and if I run sudo nautilus /tmp/disks-conf-sda5 I can see the contents...
[06:25] <mianiak> tristanmike: lol,
[06:25] <Agent_bob> ralphie2006 sudo
[06:25] <gdb> ralphie2006: And which password are you entering? Your own or a root password that you may have set at some other time?
[06:25] <johnga1t> mikedep333: i have NO idea :) i'm a debian-turned-gentoo guy who uses macs
[06:25] <ralphie2006> I think I need to create the folder to mount to?
[06:25] <tatonka> cany any1 help me with an error
[06:25] <CaBlGuY> !open GL
[06:25] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[06:25] <rixth_> Agent_bob: http://pastebin.com/754954
[06:25] <mianiak> tristanmike: thanks for the help :)
[06:25] <CaBlGuY> !openGL
[06:25] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[06:26] <tristanmike> mianiak: np
[06:26] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[06:26] <Weirdbro> gdb: there is no root password
[06:26] <mikedep333> johnga1t: it looks that utility only extracts firmware
[06:26] <johnga1t> mikedep333: and i decided to try dapper on an ibook. it seems that there was, previously, this bcm43xx_fwcutter package that would intall some firmware that would fix problems.
[06:26] <mikedep333> from files
[06:26] <CaBlGuY> My openGL anit actin right..  anyone help me??
[06:26] <gdb> Weirdbro: And is sudo returning the error or is mount?
[06:26] <Warbo> I have removed my user and recreated it, but now copying some config files back doesn't work (for instance .gnome2 gets copied, but it is gone after logging out and in)
[06:26] <qbar> I use an ibook, and I have wireless working
[06:26] <johnga1t> mikedep333: well, it seems that i need that firmware extracted b/c dmesg is complaining about not being able to find a .fw file
[06:26] <Weirdbro> lemme see the error
[06:26] <ralphie2006> wait, I am on live cd, can't create folders?
[06:26] <johnga1t> qbar: any hints on how to get it working?
[06:26] <mikedep333> well johnga1t: I think the firmware is helpless unless you have the driver available
[06:26] <tristanmike> qbar: you're on mac ? that's above me tehn
[06:27] <tatonka> can any1 help me with an error
[06:27] <mikedep333> but you say that dmesg says it needs the firmware?
[06:27] <johnga1t> mikedep333: i have the bcm43xx driver installed and (supposedly) working.
[06:27] <mikedep333> does it say anything about a bcm kernel module?
[06:27] <mikedep333> johnga1t: oh, my laptop needs that, where did you get the driver?
[06:27] <qbar> tristanmike: yeah, apple trailers worked in breezy, but not in dapper
[06:27] <mikedep333> was it built into the ubuntu kernel by default?
[06:27] <hastesaver> It is impossible to burn a cd when you're running from the Ubuntu live CD, right? (or is there some way I can't imagine?)
[06:27] <tristanmike> qbar: don't tell me that....:(
[06:27] <gdb> hastesaver: I don't see why you'd not be able to.
[06:28] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[06:28] <IcemanV9> qbar: it works in HD on mine :D
[06:28] <johnga1t> mikedep333: i just installed dapper today. it seems that an lsmod shows bcm43xx in there ...
[06:28] <DarkLegacy> I just inserted Dapper Drake into my laptop's drive
[06:28] <Madpilot> hastesaver, assuming you've got two optical drives, you should be OK...
[06:28] <DarkLegacy> Now I booted into Ubuntu
[06:28] <tatonka> can any1 help me with an error
[06:28] <DarkLegacy> And it says invalid username or password
[06:28] <hastesaver> gdb, because you're using the only CD drive you have to run Ubuntu from :)
[06:28] <mikedep333> oh, great
[06:28] <qbar> icemanv9: any tips on how?
[06:28] <DarkLegacy> When I'm typing in the correct username and password
[06:28] <mikedep333> they're including the driver early on
[06:28] <johnga1t> qbar: i'm trying to get wireless on my ibook working. any hints?
[06:28] <hanasaki> what is the pckage for gnome that controls gnome-control-center and automounts usb drives?
[06:28] <SurfnKid> how can I configure the gdesklet/HDD temp?
[06:28] <IcemanV9> qbar: mplayer is the key
[06:28] <qbar> johngalt: hold on
[06:28] <gdb> hastesaver: Ah, that's true, I suppose most machines have a single CD drive.
[06:28] <mikedep333> well, if you give me a few minutes, I can try to use that utility on my laptop with my bcm43xx wireless card
[06:28] <DarkLegacy> nvm
[06:29] <johnga1t> qbar: thanks.
[06:29] <rixth_> Agent_bob: fsck reports it as vfat too/
[06:29] <Warbo> Does anyone know why my settings are not changed after copying the dot files to $HOME
[06:29] <IcemanV9> qbar: mozilla-mplayer to be exact
[06:29] <tatonka> can any1 help me with an error
[06:29] <qbar> icemanv9: not for me.
[06:29] <Agent_bob> hmmm so rixth_ it is an fs error after all....
[06:29] <Doomhammer> does ubuntu try to mount network filesystems AFTER starting hald ?
[06:29] <pppoe_dude> Any way to check the md5sum of a CD or DVD?
[06:29] <qbar> icemanv9: worked in breezy, but not in dapper
[06:29] <hanasaki> how do i mount my usb drive?
[06:29] <Warbo> pppoe_dude: md5sum /dev/cdromdrivename?
[06:29] <rixth_> Agent_bob: no it isn't! I /can/ read the contents!
[06:29] <IcemanV9> qbar: really? that's too bad. it looks so beautiful on dapper. :/
[06:30] <rixth_> if I use disks-admin, it temporairly mounts the disks, it reports the filesystem as vfat too and if I run sudo nautilus /tmp/disks-conf-sda5 I can see the contents...
[06:30] <Doomhammer> does ubuntu try to mount network filesystems AFTER starting hald ?
[06:30] <Agent_bob> rixth_ it also reports  "9" file allocation tables found.
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> warbo ill try that...
[06:30] <Versed`> I forgot, how do you install the kubuntu desktop with ubuntu installed?
[06:30] <qbar> johngalt:
[06:30] <mikedep333> johnga1t: just running bcm43xx-fwcutter on my desktop without a bcm43xx card, it appears that it needs to be pointed to a sys file, as is only found in windows bcm43xx drivers
[06:30] <pppoe_dude> Versed, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <Doomhammer> Versed`: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -- or sudo apt-cache search kubuntu if you want extras besides the base desktop
[06:30] <rixth_> Agent_bob: that leaves me perplexed as to how I am able to access them when disks-admin mounts them.
[06:30] <gdb> Versed`: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <qbar> johngalt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDriver%2FBroadcom43xx
[06:31] <Versed`> thanks
[06:31] <gdb> Versed`: of course :-)
[06:31] <Doomhammer> does ubuntu try to mount network filesystems AFTER starting hald ?
[06:31] <mikedep333> johngalt: I may be able to provide you with my copy of the firmware for a dell truemobile 1300, but it may not work on your card unless it is an almost identical card
[06:31] <tatonka> I've got 2 more hard drives on this comp that i need to access, how can i access them??
[06:31] <wims> are there a directory i can put scripts in that start when x start?
[06:31] <hastesaver> !tell Doomhammer about repeat
[06:31] <johnga1t> mikedep333: interesting. i had no idea. i guess that would explain why bcm43xx_fwcutter isn't available under ubuntu ppc :)
[06:32] <SurfnKid> hey are the lm-sensors also the HDD sensors stuff?
[06:32] <Doomhammer> :P
[06:32] <johnga1t> qbar: thanks for link. reading now.
[06:32] <CaBlGuY> !nvidia glx
[06:32] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[06:32] <whieber> can I ask a favor
[06:32] <kleedrac> Hey all ... I've got a silly question.  I use epsxe to emulate PSX and under windows I had an uberlazy frontend with which I allocated about 50 memory cards (2 for each game :P) under linux there is no front end (which doesn't really bother me) but it has made my memory card sorting a difficult task.  Is there any linux app to view the contents of a .mcr file?
[06:32] <Doomhammer> lol ubotu's link = 404 :P
[06:32] <Agent_bob> rixth_ can't answer that,  but i can telly you that mount seems to be failing vecause it's not finding an fat on the vfat system.
[06:32] <Warbo> What might stop config files in $HOME from being used?
[06:32] <Agent_bob> s/vecause/because/
[06:32] <johnga1t> qbar: is the bcm43xx_fwcutter only available under i386 ubuntu? i can't find it for ppc
[06:32] <tatonka> I've got 2 more hard drives on this comp that i need to access, how can i access them??
[06:33] <johnga1t> qbar: apt-cache search shows me nothign.
[06:33] <rixth_> Agent_bob: then what can I do about that?
[06:33] <adamant1988> if I install the RC version of dapper and do an update will I have the current LTS version?
[06:33] <Warbo> adamant1988: Yes
[06:33] <[CC] Impsy> tristanmike : i had no idea what i was doing
[06:33] <whieber> can some one send me a /var/lib/dpkg/status file?
[06:33] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: you good now ?
[06:33] <[CC] Impsy> i just kind of clicked enter through it
[06:33] <Agent_bob> rixth_ disk admin maybe mounting as ext....     if you can cp the files out of there  format that dude.
[06:33] <[CC] Impsy> had no idea what it was talking about
[06:34] <tristanmike> that's no problem, leave everything to defaults
[06:34] <mikedep333> johngalt: this experimental package may provide you with the firmware
[06:34] <tatonka> I've got 2 more hard drives on this comp that i need to access, how can i access them??
[06:34] <mikedep333> wget http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:34] <[CC] Impsy> do i have to restart or something?
[06:34] <mikedep333> run that, then run:
[06:34] <mikedep333> sudo dpkg -i bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:34] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: know which module to use to monitor HDD temp?
[06:34] <rixth_> Agent_Bob, alright. I will try that.
[06:34] <tristanmike> no, shouldn't need to
[06:34] <[CC] Impsy> well the mouse isnt functioning still
[06:34] <mikedep333> that is from the wiki.ubuntu.com page
[06:34] <[CC] Impsy> its a logitech btw
[06:34] <tristanmike> usb or ps2 ?
[06:34] <[CC] Impsy> ps2 i think.
[06:34] <Agent_bob> rixth_  an fs with errors is a major issue looking for data to eat....
[06:34] <[CC] Impsy> its the one with the 2 screw things
[06:35] <Kwek> is there anyway to uninstall ubuntu if it messes up?
[06:35] <tristanmike> ...O.o....serial mouse ?
[06:35] <[CC] Impsy> yea.
[06:35] <[CC] Impsy> i guess.
[06:35] <[CC] Impsy> its older pc
[06:35] <tristanmike> you're telling me :P
[06:35] <johnnyrusso> lol 2 screw things
[06:35] <zawa> how do i install jdk on my ubuntu?
[06:35] <johnnyrusso> thats nice
[06:35] <[CC] Impsy> will it still work..
[06:35] <tatonka> i need help..ive got two more hard drives on this comp that i need to access, how can i access them??
[06:35] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid hmm no i don't   my junk is pretty old  like from back in the 80's and early 90's hehhe
[06:35] <[CC] Impsy> |-|/--\|-|
[06:36] <avis> i have a question for a ubuntu box i'm building for the eventually detailed ubuntu cert.  can a celeron d be run at 32 bit ?
[06:36] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: i'm sure, you're just beyond my scope of expertise, which isn't that much :P
[06:36] <johnnyrusso> im dling now will wireless mice and keyboards (ps2) work ok??
[06:36] <[CC] Impsy> mm
[06:36] <whieber> can I bug someones for a second
[06:36] <johnnyrusso> celeron is by definition 32 bit if im not mistaken
[06:36] <hihelp> Ahhh... I tryed to install python and I typed the file name (install.sh) and a install location /usr /bin <~~but i accidently put a space in it. so then all my icons dissapear and when I try to boot it stops at /sys/devices/platform/182365.0/bus. so i go to check to see if it is there on my hd but there is nothing called that. Please help.
[06:36] <avis> well this is celeron d
[06:36] <tatonka> i need help :(
[06:36] <[CC] Impsy> i cant believe this
[06:36] <tristanmike> johnnyrusso: I've used one
[06:36] <haoxiaocheng>  vb
[06:36] <avis> a 775 chip
[06:36] <zawa> please help me install JDK?
[06:36] <[CC] Impsy> im gonna smash my computer
[06:36] <haoxiaocheng> hi
[06:36] <johnnyrusso> tristanmike: thnx
[06:36] <haoxiaocheng> Hi
[06:37] <Warbo> Why are my GNOME settings not changed after replacing $HOME/.gnomerc? The default config is created instead at login
[06:37] <Agent_bob> whieber just ask
[06:37] <[CC] Impsy> is it ok if i smash my computer?
[06:37] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: not to worry, there are tons of knowledgable people here who can get you fixed up in no time
[06:37] <Warbo> I mean .gnome2 sorry
[06:37] <kleedrac> I take it no one uses epsxe :)
[06:37] <[CC] Impsy> k
[06:37] <avis> tristanmike: may i pm you ?
[06:37] <tristanmike> johnnyrusso: microsoft wireless if that matters
[06:37] <[CC] Impsy> Global Message : Does anyone know how to get my Serial Mouse working with Ubuntu
[06:37] <tristanmike> avis: sure
[06:37] <haoxiaocheng> hi
[06:37] <whieber> Okay I need a /var/lib/dpkg/status file
[06:37] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[06:37] <[CC] Impsy> before i scream and die
[06:37] <DarkLegacy> I inserted the 6.15 Ubuntu disk into my Ub Laptop
[06:37] <[CC] Impsy> in a bloody pile
[06:37] <DarkLegacy> And it says it has 493 files to update
[06:37] <DarkLegacy> I pressed update all
[06:37] <whieber> preffereably from a kubuntu install
[06:38] <DarkLegacy> Will it update my installation to Drapper Drake?
[06:38] <johnga1t> qbar: sorry if i'm being dense, but i don't understand how to use that link if i can't install bcm43xx_fwcutter (which it doesn't appear that i can do on my ibook)
[06:38] <[CC] Impsy> tristanmike : how do you get the knowledgable peoples attention?
[06:38] <tatonka> i need help :(
[06:38] <zawa> HELP
[06:38] <pussfeller> my usb drives are gone :(
[06:38] <whieber> Agent_bob can you provide a status file
[06:38] <meta-ridley> if you get bcm43xx working on an airport extreme, let me know
[06:38] <zawa> JDK?
[06:38] <meta-ridley> im using 2.6.17-rc4 and its busted
[06:39] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: mostly patience
[06:39] <[CC] Impsy> tristanmike : how about if its late
[06:39] <pussfeller> after the upgrade to dapper, now my usb hd isn't showing up
[06:39] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: ask the question every 5 minutes or so
[06:39] <Agent_bob> whiebar  eeek  that is package specific, is it not?   you will have to generate that on the system it's used on.
[06:39] <qbar> I'm using wireless internet on an ibook g4 right now
[06:39] <Schalken> is anyone running ubuntu x86 on a 64bit computer?
[06:39] <[CC] Impsy> Global Message : Does anyone know how to get my Serial Mouse working with Ubuntu
[06:39] <pussfeller> and my custom udev rule has been zipped up and tossed aside
[06:39] <tristanmike> [CC] Impsy: get some sleep and look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow :)
[06:39] <meta-ridley> qbar: dapper?
[06:39] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: whoa, computers in the 80s? hehe
[06:39] <qbar> yes
[06:39] <whieber> Agent_bob Im building dpkg port to Yoper and I just need a working one to test progress
[06:40] <CaBlGuY> **ok, can I get an answer to this please..   does the Geforce FX 5500 Nvidia card require the glx-legacy drivers????
[06:40] <Agent_bob> whieber man dpkg   there 'may' be an option to generate one
[06:40] <meta-ridley> qbar: default kernel?
[06:40] <qbar> yes
[06:40] <i3dmaster> any1 got bmpx working on dapper?
[06:40] <pussfeller> i had a serial mouse working with ubuntu, i cant rememver how
[06:40] <whieber> its generated by dpkg but must have one template to begin
[06:40] <hihelp> Is there any way I can download 182365.0/bus?
[06:40] <qbar> meta-ridley: I'm trying to dcc you an older version of the wiki page.  told me how to do it
[06:40] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid this box shipped with win95a on it if that tells you anything....
[06:40] <CaBlGuY> anyone..  so I can install the correct drivers..   anyone know ????
[06:40] <meta-ridley> send me the link?
[06:40] <meta-ridley> via /msg
[06:41] <tatonka> i need help :(
[06:41] <Agent_bob> whieber ok. i'll see what i can do.
[06:41] <[CC] Impsy> Global Message : Does anyone know how to get my Serial Mouse working with Ubuntu
[06:41] <johnga1t> qbar: i understand you're using it. i'm asking how you installed bcm43xx_fwcutter ... b/c i can't seem to apt-get install it. any help would be greatly appreciated!
[06:41] <qbar> no link.  html file.  the wiki has been updated
[06:41] <billytwowilly> what's the script to run to setup java?
[06:41] <meta-ridley> oh
[06:41] <CaBlGuY> !java
[06:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:41] <qbar> johngalt: do you have multiverse and universe enabled?
[06:42] <meta-ridley> thats alright.. ill find it
[06:42] <local_> dapper gnome and nautilus.. i click on my usbdrive and it says couldnt exec pmount.. couldnt make directory permission denied..... sup w/that?
[06:42] <meta-ridley> im using debian anyways
[06:42] <mardi> !broadcom
[06:42] <ubotu> I heard broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[06:42] <johnga1t> qbar: ah, gotcha. thank you.
[06:42] <hihelp> Is there anyway I can reinstall linux without re-formating my hard drive?
[06:42] <johnga1t> qbar: sorry to be a pain.
[06:42] <meta-ridley> p.s. broadcom sucks
[06:42] <xpc> !hu
[06:42] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[06:42] <Doomhammer> does ubuntu keep a log of system boot ?
[06:43] <[CC] Impsy> Global Message : Does anyone know how to get my Serial Mouse working with Ubuntu
[06:43] <IcemanV9> Doomhammer: dmesg
[06:43] <Agent_bob> whieber my system is extreemly non-default though.   should warn you i guess.
[06:43] <local_>   how can i mount my usb drive?
[06:43] <xpc> !fr
[06:43] <tatonka> i need help..ive got two more hard drives on this comp that i need to access, how can i access them??
[06:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:43] <qbar> meta-ridley: I'm going to dcc you a file with directions on how to get airport extreme working
[06:43] <Doomhammer> IcemanV9: rofl of course !
[06:43] <pussfeller> [CC] Impsy, you might have better luck with google than with flooding the channel
[06:43] <local_> Doomhammer  dmsg
[06:43] <hihelp> Is there anyway I can reinstall linux without re-formating my hard drive?
[06:43] <whieber> Agent_bob not to worry I can fix it just want to test to see if build went correct
[06:43] <[CC] Impsy> im not flooding
[06:44] <[CC] Impsy> im doing it reasonably after my message goes up above
[06:44] <pussfeller> ok, just call it being annoying and repeating
[06:44] <IGD> anyone have problems running widescreen 1400X900 and getting multiple desktops?
[06:44] <[CC] Impsy> dont look at it then
[06:44] <IcemanV9> qbar: i just checked QT movie trailers to make sure it is still working .. my goodness, i just watched District B13 in HD format. it worked flawlessly.
[06:44] <hastesaver> [CC] Impsy, Repeat every 10 minutes or so, not every 10 seconds or so :)
[06:44] <hastesaver> [CC] Impsy, Did you read the !mouse link?
[06:44] <[CC] Impsy> wow
[06:44] <tristanmike> lets be nice :)
[06:44] <Agent_bob> yes just explaining don't expect any 'standard packages to be listed, they may not be here.
[06:44] <qbar> icemanv9: you on a mac?
[06:44] <[CC] Impsy> i have no idea what they are talking about in those links
[06:44] <Agent_bob> whieber ^
[06:44] <tristanmike> hastesaver: the problem is, his mouse doesn't work, so he can't click anything
[06:44] <mikedep333> hey guys, how do I force removal of a module from the kernel when it says error: "device or resource busy"
[06:45] <lasindi> Hi all, is anyone else having trouble with the repositories? I get a bunch of errors when I do apt-get update.
[06:45] <IcemanV9> qbar: it is mozilla-mplayer and no. intel laptop.
[06:45] <hastesaver> [CC] Impsy, on, can't you get to the menu by hitting Alt-F1?
[06:45] <[CC] Impsy> yes i can.
[06:45] <johnga1t> qbar: working. thank you SO much. awesome.
[06:45] <qbar> icemanv9: i think the problem is ppc related
[06:45] <IcemanV9> qbar: that's what i was thinking ..
[06:45] <whieber> Agent_bob  I received the file but cant find it?
[06:45] <hihelp> Is there anyway I can reinstall linux without re-formating my hard drive?
[06:45] <Warbo> Can anybody help me get my old GNOME settings (which are backed up) working with my new user?
[06:45] <hastesaver> [CC] Impsy, so you can start a terminal?
[06:45] <qbar> johngalt: no problem.
[06:45] <pussfeller> mikedep333, modprobe -f sometimes works
[06:46] <hastesaver> [CC] Impsy, (use the arrow keys to get to Accessories -> Terminal)
[06:46] <Agent_bob> lol
[06:46] <[CC] Impsy> yes i can haste
[06:46] <Doomhammer> is it normal to have like 50 "PCI Interrupt Link" messages during boot ?
[06:46] <Agent_bob> whieber use   find $HOME -name status
[06:46] <mikedep333> pussfeller: when I do modprove -f vmnet it says the module wasn't found
[06:46] <Madpilot> hihelp, do you have seperate partitions for /home?
[06:47] <ralphie2006> unable to access hard drive from live cd, what is best way to crack open a hard drive with a breezy install? I need to backup my files because the upgrade is caused my x server to fail
[06:47] <xpc> oopiopkoiopkp
[06:47] <[CC] Impsy> and what else hastesaver
[06:47] <ralphie2006> running on live cd right now
[06:47] <pussfeller> mikedep333, does it show up in lsmod?
[06:47] <mikedep333> yes
[06:47] <Agent_bob> maybe wildcard that incase it renamed    '*status*' whieber
[06:47] <mikedep333> mike@hegemon:/boot/grub$ lsmod | grep vmnet
[06:47] <mikedep333> vmnet                  34532  2
[06:47] <pussfeller> what is that , a vmware thing?
[06:47] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: well at least it runs Ubotu :D and you just gave me an idea, Im gonna get my old clunker 133PackardBell and sell that with linux. If anone wants it :P
[06:47] <hastesaver> [CC] Impsy, someone suggested the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing, did it help?
[06:47] <[CC] Impsy> ive dont it.
[06:47] <[CC] Impsy> didnt change anything
[06:47] <mikedep333> pussfeller: yes, it is the vmware virtual NIC
[06:48] <mikedep333> somehow it got messed up
[06:48] <hihelp> madpilot, I have 1 paretition / and swap
[06:48] <[CC] Impsy> maybe i should try it again or something.
[06:48] <defunkt> does wine work with dapper?
[06:48] <mikedep333> and thus prevents vmware from even working
[06:48] <mikedep333> defunkt: yes
[06:48] <IcemanV9> does dapper still have OEM option?
[06:48] <whieber> Agent_bob found it thanks I'll report thaks.Walter
[06:48] <Madpilot> hihelp, then reinstalling is going to reformat all of /
[06:48] <qbar> johngalt: wireless internet does not work by default for me on reboots.  I want to make a script to automatically start it for me
[06:48] <pussfeller> mikedep333, thats the main reason I never got anywhere with vmware, i could never figure out the networking, sorry
[06:48] <defunkt> ok, thank you mikedep333
[06:48] <tristanmike> IcemanV9: yes
[06:48] <mikedep333> I was using it earlier, and winehq.com has a newer version
[06:48] <LeoStewart> The Azureus tray icon is not showing up.  Does anyone know why this might be?
[06:48] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid is that 133mhz ?
[06:48] <SurfnKid> Yep
[06:48] <tristanmike> IcemanV9: you might want the Alternate CD tho
[06:48] <mikedep333> pussfeller: I understand, but any advise on forcing a module to be dismounted?
[06:48] <hihelp> Madpilot, is there no way that I can keep my files?
[06:48] <tristanmike> LeoStewart: I'm having the same issue
[06:49] <Warbo> SurfnKid: I'm waiting for a charger for my 200MHz laptop to arrive
[06:49] <Madpilot> hihelp, boot a liveCD and burn backups?
[06:49] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid make a great router.
[06:49] <Sir_Brizz> Does anyone know how to make the Kernel look for a device on a differnet IRQ? In Breezy, my NIC card is on IRQ11 and works properly, in Dapper it's on 9 and doesn't work at all...
[06:49] <LeoStewart> tristanmike: weird. I did not experience this on Breezy.  Are you using Dapper?
[06:49] <tristanmike> LeoStewart: yessum
[06:49] <Madpilot> hihelp, assuming you've got two CD drives, and one's a burner, of course
[06:49] <SurfnKid> Warbo: what kind of lappy
[06:49] <IcemanV9> terrific. i can install ubuntu as OEM and sell this laptop when i get a new one later this summer.
[06:49] <tristanmike> LeoStewart: and I also didn't experience it on dapper
[06:49] <Warbo> SurfnKid: Compaq Armada 7400
[06:49] <HedgeMage> :)
[06:49] <qbar> Does anyone know how to access an itunes shared library with ubuntu?
[06:49] <tristanmike> LeoStewart: errr, Breezy, I meant
[06:49] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid powerful 'iptables' firewall with all the trimmings
[06:49] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: yeah you're right I just need to get good pci cards
[06:50] <hastesaver> [CC] Impsy, I'd like to help, but I'm not an expert. Just get some sleep if it's late, and try restarting in the morning :)
[06:50] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: yum, sounds tasty heh
[06:50] <hihelp> Madpilot, yes about the cd dirves and I have a live CD but no back up disks
[06:50] <tristanmike> !itunes
[06:50] <LeoStewart> tristanmike: ha, confused me for a second.
[06:50] <pussfeller> rmmod -f should be the one that woeks
[06:50] <SurfnKid> Warbo: with Ubutu on it wow
[06:50] <tristanmike> !tell qbar about itunes
[06:50] <Doomhammer> how can I change the number of times KDE will retry to read the my wallpaper file when it fails ?
[06:50] <Madpilot> hihelp, you'll need to buy some CD-Rs, then...
[06:50] <LeoStewart> tristanmike: well, this is a weird bug.  I dont even know where to start.
[06:50] <Warbo> SurfnKid: I will when I get a charger for it
[06:51] <tristanmike> LeoStewart: well, I think it's unsupported, so you can't really post a bug for it, I don't think anyway
[06:51] <pussfeller> !tell me about itunes
[06:51] <Warbo> Anyway, whay aren't my copied .gnome2 files being used?
[06:51] <pussfeller> what a sauscy bot
[06:51] <qbar> tristanmike: only problem is that I'm on a mac.  One of the old ones without an x86 processor
[06:51] <tristanmike> pussfeller: use "/msg ubotu <factoid>" for a private session with ubotu :)
[06:51] <[CC] Impsy> i am gonna DIE
[06:51] <LeoStewart> tristanmike: well, that is annoying. ><
[06:51] <hihelp> Madpilot,Ya, Ill go get some tomaro. So what you want me to do is boot live CD and burn the whole hd to cd?
[06:52] <tristanmike> qbar: oh, is that x86 specific? sorry, didn't know
[06:52] <Madpilot> hihelp, you can mount your old / partition and copy stuff off it to salvage
[06:52] <defunkt> anyone get flash 8 pro working on wine?
[06:52] <qbar> tristanmike: maybe I can compile from source
[06:52] <whieber> Agent_bob thanks for your help its working with some errors. Thaks
[06:52] <tristanmike> LeoStewart: I hoped it would stop disapearing when I opened a torrent, I guess that dream is squashed :P
[06:52] <meta-ridley> qbar: how new is your ibook?
[06:52] <local_> can someone please point me to how to get my usb drive to mount and come up in gnome on dapper?
[06:52] <Warbo> defunkt: I got Flash MX working, but it went INCREDIBLY slow
[06:52] <tristanmike> qbar: that's always fun ;)
[06:52] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid i'm setting beside a box i normally irc on that has ub hoary  blackbox and several apps    610m hdd 64m ram p100mmx     hehhe who said just because it's old it's junk.
[06:52] <Schalken> is anyone running ubuntu x86 on a 64bit computer?
[06:52] <tristanmike> !usb
[06:52] <Centaur5> After upgrading from Breezy to Dapper today my laptop freezes when trying to start any network device. Best to format or troubleshoot?
[06:52] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tristanmike
[06:53] <SurfnKid> Warbo:  Just replaced mine on this Inspiron. It had a 3.13 volt adapter shipped in from Dell completely wrong. Battery wasnt charging and MB was really hurting... Googled information on this issue and most laptops dont last a year or more. This one is 2yrs with that adapter. Bought the corret 4.62amp I mean, not 3.13volts um wrong. and Its running smooth. INCREDIBle it didnt FRY :|
[06:53] <LeoStewart> tristanmike: well, I guess I'll try to search on the forums.
[06:53] <LeoStewart> tristanike: i
[06:53] <LeoStewart> tristanmike: i'll get back to if I find anything to fix it.**
[06:53] <meta-ridley> centaur5: if you format chances are you'll run into the same problem
[06:53] <tristanmike> LeoStewart: nice, thanx
[06:53] <local_> tristanmike was that !usb for me?
[06:53] <Warbo> SurfnKid: Yeah? I was given a 66MHz laptop with DOS6 on it, and the charger I used electrolyses the batteries and sulphur started coming out of it :)
[06:53] <hihelp> Madpilot, I cant boot into ubuntu 6.06 it freezes @ /sys/devices/platform/182365.0/bus. I looked on my hd but there is no file there! Is there anyway I can get it?
[06:54] <tristanmike> local_: umm, did you like it? if so yes, if not, no :P
[06:54] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: what OS do you load less than 610mb on
[06:54] <local_> lol
[06:54] <SurfnKid> Warbo: ouch
[06:54] <Agent_bob> it scares me... whieber is building the foundation of a system and doesn't know how to find a file he just dcc down loaded....   what does that say about the system ?
[06:54] <Centaur5> meta-ridley: haha, thanks for the encouragement.  :)  I don't even know where to start with that problem.
[06:54] <local_> tristanmike got only that.. i need to mount my usbdrive nad have no clue
[06:54] <shuberth> holas
[06:54] <SurfnKid> Warbo: wow it must be an oldie :)
[06:54] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid i just said ubuntu hoary
[06:54] <qbar> meta-ridley: about 3 years.  First line of ibook g4s @ 900 mhz
[06:54] <tristanmike> local_: you may need to mount it in fstab
[06:55] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid could be dapper
[06:55] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob:  oh, small lite version then
[06:55] <shuberth> hola
[06:55] <meta-ridley> qbar: ah.. i got a 1.25
[06:55] <Warbo> SurfnKid: Well it's a dismantled mess now
[06:55] <pussfeller> local_, you just should have to stick it in the usb slot and it shows up as an icon on your desktop
[06:55] <meta-ridley> i should have waited for the new ones
[06:55] <meta-ridley> then again 1st gen apple hardware is usually crap
[06:55] <SurfnKid> Warbo: hope you can get that fixed
[06:55] <tatonka> can some1 tell me how to play .mpg
[06:55] <Mobadass> hi!
[06:55] <local_> pussfeller it shows up in nautilus... when i click on it it says it cant create the dir .. no permission... my id is in plugdev
[06:55] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: Ill try that on that pc
[06:56] <Warbo> SurfnKid: No point. I got it for free anyway, so it doesn't matter
[06:56] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid not really  server install is 384m  on hoary  not much more on dapper im sure.
[06:56] <pussfeller> local_, is it formatted with fat32?
[06:56] <SurfnKid> Warbo: yeah as long as u can get on, guts everywhere it works
[06:56] <Warbo> What does matter is my config files which are not being used (notice the subtle hint?)
[06:56] <local_> pussfeller resier3.. worked fine on etch.. i just loaded dapper
[06:56] <jet87> has anyone in here had mounting errors where you get the device isn't a block device?
[06:56] <tatonka> warbo: can u tell me about playing mpg s..i know theres something i gotta download
[06:56] <Mobadass> ive got a quick question i want to install daper drake whick cd should i download?
[06:56] <ult1mate> anyone of you use succesfull xgl?
[06:56] <pussfeller> local_, i think dappers usb is fuxored, mine dont show up at all
[06:57] <Warbo> !tell tatonka about restricted
[06:57] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: thats nothing, so how powerful a router can i run, i like hardware routers. would that be software router?
[06:57] <local_> @#$@!#$
[06:57] <local_> pussfeller  it passed QA?
[06:57] <IcemanV9> Mobadass: it would be alternative-install
[06:57] <tatonka> thats warbo
[06:57] <tatonka> thanks*
[06:57] <Warbo> np
[06:57] <pussfeller> local_, QA?
[06:57] <rixth__> Agent_bob, Windows can read the disk fine.
[06:57] <Warbo> jet87: Do you need to use loop?
[06:57] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid yes
[06:57] <local_> quality checks before production pussfeller
[06:58] <qbar> tristanmike: of course the link to the source tarball is dead
[06:58] <rixth__> But I am still gonna back up and format
[06:58] <Centaur5> Could anybody tell me what to check or do if Dapper freezes when trying to activate a network device?
[06:58] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: thats still good
[06:58] <Phuzion> Alright, I need help setting my Ubuntu machine into my network
[06:58] <Mobadass> IcemanV9: i dont have it installed right now
[06:58] <jet87> i'm trying to mount a usb disk, you can see what i've done in the last post @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1084473
[06:58] <Phuzion> I don't have DHCP set up, but I have a router
[06:58] <pussfeller> local_, if you mean, did it work on breezy, yeah
[06:58] <rixth__> Centaur5, check the spelling of the host
[06:58] <local_> Centaur5 could be timing out on a server haning
[06:58] <pussfeller> it worked this am
[06:58] <Ricky28269> can someone link me to instructions on making ubuntu save all its settings and programs on a flashdrive/external usb drive?
[06:58] <catchjosh> Has anyone played with the new Dapper Server Edition?
[06:58] <local_> pussfeller i am new to ubuntu as of dapper
[06:58] <local_> pussfeller worked fine on debian etch
[06:58] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: havent gotten around getting another eth01 adapter for my 2600 cisco, so i might just use the pc as a router instead
[06:58] <pussfeller> local_, oh, breezy was the last ver of ubuntuy
[06:59] <Centaur5> rixth__: Spelling of the hostname on my machine?
[06:59] <Warbo> jet87: OK, I just thought when you said it isn't a block device that you were trying to mount a file (you need to use the loop option to do that)
[06:59] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid it would prolly handel about 2m/s transfer without any packet loss    just a guess.
[06:59] <jet87> ah
[06:59] <rixth__> Centaur5, no, the host you are tring to access
[06:59] <pussfeller> local_, its a prob with dapper, it will be fixed very very soon i am sure
[06:59] <johnga1t> qbar: sorry to bother with some other questions ... any luck on getting sleep and suspend modes to work? and playing w/ keymap to get apple and ctl buttons to work properly?
[06:59] <jet87> for some reason it was fine booting up with the drive, but unplugging and replugging has caused problems
[07:00] <SurfnKid> Warbo: this laptop is worht 1500+ but the guy who i got it from got it from an unknown source brand new. He needed to sell it but was afraidd ebay would get him in trouble so said 500 I was like ohhh ok sure... HERE!!
[07:00] <Phuzion> What is the ifconfig argument I need to use in order to set a gateway and DNS servers?
[07:00] <local_> pussfeller  lol i need the config files i backed up NOW
[07:00] <Mobadass> ive got a quick question i want to install daper drake on an un partitioned drive which cd should i download?
[07:00] <local_> pussfeller  any way that will work.. even if its hard.. for now?
[07:00] <Warbo> SurfnKid: lol
[07:00] <Centaur5> rixth__: Well now it just barely froze just trying to type in a different ssid
[07:00] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob: I prolly wont even get to that with the bandwidth ive gogt
[07:00] <IcemanV9> Mobadass: that would be alternative-install CD
[07:00] <SurfnKid> hehe
[07:01] <pussfeller> local_, i guess manually edit fstab and mount it that way
[07:01] <rixth__> Centaur5, ah, sorry, I do not know anything about wlan.
[07:01] <Mobadass> lol damn im downloading the sever AND desktop but not that on LOL
[07:01] <Agent_bob> ok lunch time.  back in a bit   or is that bite.....
[07:01] <tatonka> warbo: i installed that, the movie still doesnt play
[07:01] <Warbo> I'm going to try changing the config files again. Bye
[07:01] <Centaur5> rixth__: It did this over cat5 this afternoon but the location I'm at only has wireless
[07:01] <local_> pussfeller  how do i find the /dev it is on?
[07:01] <SurfnKid> Warbo: Got a SonyVaio still my first lappy. Dam thing was 3000 new :( PIII500 It was bloody expensive, but Im gonna get that witch going I know it can be worth something
[07:01] <pussfeller> local_, try lsusb maybe
[07:01] <SurfnKid> oopz
[07:02] <SurfnKid> eoh well
[07:02] <SurfnKid> everyone left
[07:02] <pussfeller> local_, or the dev/sd*
[07:02] <IcemanV9> Mobadass: desktop is like LiveCD, but you can install from it as well.
[07:02] <local_> that gives the busid.. but not the specific /dev/sd  number
[07:02] <jd_> n00b question: When ever i try to run anything from the system>administration menu it says  "starting *****" but never does; i have to terminal in 'su' and then type the cmd
[07:02] <Mobadass> ohhh ok
[07:02] <pussfeller> i think they go as sda, sdb, sdc, etc
[07:02] <tr00st> Hello! I've got my wireless network working, but I need to run a couple of commands when I boot for it to turn on properly. Is there a correct (for ubuntu) way to run these?
[07:02] <neosc> ubutu: tell neosc about upgrading to dapper from breezy using shipit CD
[07:03] <tatonka> what do yall reccomend playing mpgs with
[07:03] <IcemanV9> Mobadass: it's new with desktop CD; alternative install CD is like install CD
[07:03] <Mobadass> kk thx!
[07:03] <Doomhammer> !restricted
[07:03] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone fly Northwest Airlines?  (http://www.nwa.com/)  I'm having trouble checking in online and getting the boarding pass - wondering if I'll have to use Windows to do it.
[07:03] <johnga1t> anyone know how to edit the keymapping in X?
[07:04] <tatonka> warbo: what do u reccomend playing mpgs with
[07:04] <Echo> How do I edit folder permissions when the persmission options in the permission tab are blanked out?
[07:04] <jd_> i love gold
[07:04] <neosc> ubotu: tell neosc about upgrading breezy
[07:04] <Phuzion> tonyyarusso:  what browser are you using?
[07:04] <Phuzion> Echo:  sudo chmod
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> Phuzion: Just tried Firefox.  Now I'm giving it a shot with Ephiphany.
[07:04] <Roger_The_Bum> Is linux-swap the swap partition?
[07:04] <Phuzion> Yes
[07:04] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah I know
[07:04] <Echo> thanks
[07:04] <Roger_The_Bum> just making sure ;)
[07:05] <tatonka> what do yall reccomend playing mpgs with
[07:05] <Phuzion> Echo:  No problem
[07:05] <[CC] Impsy> Global Message : Does anyone know how to get my Serial Mouse working with Ubuntu
[07:05] <neosc> ubotu doesnt seem to know.. do i need to complete reinstall to ugrade from breezy to dapper? I'd lose all the installed programming apps
[07:05] <ubotu> neosc: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[07:05] <mikedep333> tatonka: you want to play original mpg files?
[07:05] <mikedep333> I think ubuntu's default, totem, can do that fine
[07:05] <neosc> from the shipit CD
[07:05] <Roger_The_Bum> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:05] <Roger_The_Bum> I think
[07:05] <tatonka> mikedep333: yes
[07:05] <mikedep333> and it works nicely with gnome
[07:05] <neosc> hmm.. my net is very slow
[07:06] <omac> tatonka: xine or mplayer or totem
[07:06] <mardi> When I do  "ifconfig eth0 up"  I get  "siocsifflags: device or resource busy."  Anyone able to help?
[07:06] <neosc> anyway to do it from the CD?
[07:06] <tatonka> mikedep333: how do i get xine
[07:06] <hanaBRB> what package in ubuntu gives the /dev/gpmdata for the mouse dirver?
[07:07] <tatonka> mikedep333: how do i get xin
[07:07] <tatonka> opps
[07:07] <[CC] Impsy> whats hoary and warty?>
[07:07] <[CC] Impsy> i found a topic to help with my serial mouse : v
[07:07] <[CC] Impsy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23926&highlight=serial+mouse
[07:07] <tatonka> mikedep333: beter yet, how do i get mplayer, id rather have it than xine
[07:07] <Mobadass> older versions
[07:07] <Roger_The_Bum> how about amaroK?
[07:07] <[CC] Impsy> whats hoary and warty?
[07:08] <pussfeller> hoary and waty are old version of ubuntu
[07:08] <Roger_The_Bum> older versions of ubuntu, [CC] Impsy
[07:08] <Roger_The_Bum> same with breezy
[07:08] <Schalken> is anyone running ubuntu x86 on a 64bit computer?
[07:08] <[CC] Impsy> so what do i have to edit then
[07:08] <Rajuu> Hey uhm.. so im using ladspa effects through jack, and I want to record the effected audio... now my output is set to jack_alsa, so is that what I set to use as my input for my recording software?
[07:08] <[CC] Impsy> on that article
[07:08] <Roger_The_Bum> Schalken: is that possible?
[07:08] <[CC] Impsy> it says you need to edit one of the two files
[07:08] <Roger_The_Bum> can it boot?
[07:09] <[CC] Impsy> what?
[07:09] <Schalken> Roger_The_Bum: thats what i was wondering
[07:09] <[CC] Impsy> can what boto
[07:09] <tatonka> mikedep333: how do i get mplayer
[07:09] <omac> tatonka: use your favourite package installer i.e. aptitude or synaptic.  Then search for amarok or totem or xine or mplayer.  Then install
[07:09] <Schalken> [CC] lmpsy: a 32bit OS on a 64bit computer
[07:09] <CHodapp> Rajuu, jack_alsa just looks like the driver. If your recording software supports JACK, you need to find a specific set of inputs to record on - like the outputs from whatever you're using LADSPA through.
[07:10] <P-NuT> Hi all.
[07:10] <tatonka> omac: i searched form xine and mplayer, no results, of course there was a mplayer plugin for firefox
[07:10] <mikedep333> tatonka: it is in universe
[07:10] <mikedep333> you know how to get universe packages?
[07:10] <P-NuT> how do I resolve an IRQ conflict?
[07:10] <CHodapp> Rajuu, out of curiosity, what LADSPA client are you using, and what recording software?
[07:10] <Rajuu> CHodapp: ok well my Output is set to jack_alsa...
[07:10] <P-NuT> i have 2 pci devices which have the same IRQ
[07:10] <Rajuu> ecamegapedal
[07:10] <CHodapp> do you have a patchbay you can use to connect stuff?
[07:10] <CHodapp> like jack-patch-bay or patchage
[07:10] <Rajuu> well I have jack rack but I cant figure out how to use it lol
[07:11] <CHodapp> you just add and remove plugins
[07:11] <Roger_The_Bum> A partition question: if I have say 60 GB of space, I have 59 as the main hard drive, and 1 as the swap, what do I use for each?
[07:11] <CHodapp> you connect something to its input, and send its output to the appropriate place
[07:11] <Roger_The_Bum> ext3 and linux-swap?
[07:11] <tatonka> mikedep333: dont see a universe
[07:11] <Rajuu> What is the router plugin thing called in jack rack CHodapp ?
[07:12] <hanaBRB> which package in dapper will work with xorg and a dual monitor nvidia card?
[07:12] <CHodapp> Rajuu, if you wish, you can ask in #lad   -  Linux Audio Developers
[07:12] <Roger_The_Bum> anyone?
[07:12] <omac> tatonka:  you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to have the ubuntu universe repositories.  search the ubuntu wiki for universe and repository and apt
[07:12] <CHodapp> Rajuu, router plugin thing?
[07:12] <Rajuu> er for connecting apps
[07:12] <Rajuu> routing output
[07:12] <tatonka> omac: ive already edited that and everything
[07:13] <mikedep333> !tell hanaBRB about nvidia
[07:13] <omac> tatonka: did you update your repository to ensure the available-packages-list is updated on your machine?
[07:13] <mikedep333> hanaBRB: you may need to consult nvidia's driver info on how to setup twinview for dual-monitors
[07:13] <neil__> can somebody help me? ubuntu dapper drake 6.06 is telling me it can't mount my usb thumb drive
[07:14] <hanaBRB> mikedep333  i cant get to the web until i get the nv runinng :(
[07:14] <mikedep333> since  twinview is nvidia specific
[07:14] <mikedep333> oh
[07:14] <mikedep333> well, with nv, you can only use one monitor
[07:14] <hanaBRB> i learnt that the hard way :(
[07:14] <tatonka> omac: i get an error everything i oen the package manager, it invloves sources.list, possibly could u help me with it
[07:14] <mikedep333> ubuntu should automatically generate an xorg.conf file to use nv
[07:14] <hanaBRB> ah.. ok
[07:14] <mikedep333> during setup
[07:14] <hanaBRB> bbiab
[07:14] <tatonka> omac: everything i open*
[07:14] <CHodapp> Rajuu, that's handled by JACK, not by jack-rack - all jack-rack does is stack LADSPA plugins, apply them in order to the input, and send it out the output
[07:15] <mardi> When I do  "ifconfig eth0 up"  I get  "siocsifflags: device or resource busy."  Anyone able to help?
[07:15] <CHodapp> Rajuu, get a program like jack-patch-bay or patchage or qjackconnect (I think) - it will make some more sense then, maybe.
[07:15] <pally_> anyone here good at latex? how could I add background image for latex doc?
[07:15] <ramengirl> Hi everyone.
[07:15] <meta-ridley> Hi
[07:15] <pussfeller> hanaBRB, i can send you my xorg conf if you need an example, i asssume theres a way for ubuntu to mannally configure it, but i never bothered
[07:16] <bk_> I'm trying to install Lynx from source code, but I'm getting this error message, "configure: error: No curses header-files found
[07:16] <bk_> "  I get this when I run "./configure --prefix=${HOME} --with-ssl=${HOME}/openssl --libdir=${HOME}/share/lynx"  Does anyone know what the error message means?
[07:16] <valehru> Gah...just upgraded to Dapper: glxinfo | grep direct
[07:16] <valehru> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[07:16] <meta-ridley> qbar: still there?
[07:16] <Centaur5> I just found that after upgrading to Dapper today my laptop freezes when activating network devices and I just booted off a live cd and it does as well. What can I do?
[07:16] <frank23> bk_: do a apt-get build-dep lynx
[07:17] <ramengirl> I have a question about dual booting with Windows. I did the install using the destop install disk and thought I set it up to dual boot in Windows XP.
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> bk_: Why from source?
[07:17] <tatonka> omac: look at this error - http://pastebin.com/755005
[07:17] <ramengirl> But, no Windows XP entry in GRUB. I even checked menu.list and there was no entry.
[07:17] <julian_> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format
[07:17] <bk_> i'm installing from source code because i've never done it before.  i'm doing this more or less as an exerces.  I'm following an example from a book.
[07:17] <julian_> can anyone help
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> ramengirl: Did it say it detected it during the install process?
[07:18] <meta-ridley> i would be happy windows is gone
[07:18] <Rajuu> CHodapp: Hm.. None of those are on apt-get hm?
[07:18] <ramengirl> Tony: I thought it had but I'm thinking now it probably didn't.
[07:18] <frank23> bk_: you're missing some -dev packages   apt-get build-dep lynx will install them automatically
[07:18] <kholerabb1> Could someone tell me how to run a program with wine?
[07:18] <mikedep333> bK; you should get the source code package from ubuntu directly
[07:18] <mikedep333> it will compile correctly
[07:19] <mikedep333> getting the one originally from lynx is not likely to work
[07:19] <mikedep333> *not as likely
[07:19] <omac> tatonka: open a terminal, sudo bash, aptitude, type "/" and enter xine(that was a search btw). once selected, then type "+"(that was flag to install btw), then type "g"(that was a go to start installing removing packages btw)..
[07:19] <mikedep333> usually simple text mode apps like that do compile correctly
[07:19] <CHodapp> Rajuu, try qjackctl
[07:19] <neil__> can somebody help me? ubuntu dapper drake 6.06 is telling me it can't mount my usb thumb drive
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> ramengirl: You can try again with update-grub and grub-install to see if it's a fluke.  Otherwise you may have to make one manually.
[07:19] <bk_> does anyone these days install programs from raw sourcecode?  Like some programs off of sourceforge or freshmeat?
[07:20] <CHodapp> bk_, yes.
[07:20] <ramengirl> Tony: Would it had been easier for me to have used the alternative install disk?
[07:20] <juanca7777> hello everyone
[07:20] <bk_> CHodapp, ever been unsuccessful?
[07:20] <meta-ridley> bk: all the time
[07:20] <CHodapp> bk_, hundreds of times.
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> ramengirl: Maybe.  I personally prefer that one.
[07:20] <Rajuu> wait if I just record from my master out, all should be well.
[07:20] <Rajuu> well
[07:20] <bk_> CHodapp, that's good to know.
[07:20] <Rajuu> as a quick fix anyway
[07:21] <juanca7777> I am having problems with openoffice and the 'Page Preview' mode, I don't have any possibility to zoom in or out, any ideas?
[07:21] <CHodapp> Maybe 60% success on RedHat, about 99% success on Slackware.
[07:21] <meta-ridley> bk_: its not really too difficuly.. every now and then you might hit a bump
[07:21] <ramengirl> Tony-Man, this is burning my ass. I've installed Ubuntu at least 10 or 15 times with no booting problems.
[07:21] <frank23> bk_: you usually install from source if you can't find it in the ubuntu repos
[07:21] <tatonka> omac: xine wasnt there, and i really need help with this error
[07:21] <CHodapp> Rajuu, maybe, maybe not. Personally I think it's worth it to learn to use JACK and LADSPA well.
[07:21] <Ricky28269> I have tried twice now and both times that I install ubuntu to my hard drive, it ends up corrupted. The downloaded iso file was md5sum'd and was correct, and then i burned it at reduced speed (16x) and had the program verify it, and THEN i ran ubuntu's CD verify thing and everything is fine. The corruption causes all system contact with the internet to be lost, but I can use firefox just fine, so it's very weird. Help plz?
[07:21] <Rajuu> CHodapp: Well jackctl isnt what I need at all.
[07:21] <ray__> hello all... I have a quick question: what's the command for rebuilding the etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[07:21] <P-NuT> Hey all, I have dapper 6.06 and I think 2 of my PCI card are sharing the same IRQ. How can I check this? Can anybody help me?
[07:21] <meta-ridley> ramen: do you install once a week or something?
[07:21] <Rajuu> and a search for jack returns nothing of use either
[07:21] <CHodapp> Rajuu, qjackctl comes with a patchbay, which is somewhat essential when using JACK.
[07:21] <twb> Hey, my desktop's serif/sans/mono fonts aren't aliased to the Bitstream Vera ones.  How can I fix this?
[07:21] <omac> tatonka:  your /etc/apt/sources.list is still pointing to the CDROM drive as the location for the latest repositories.  The CDROM repository lines should be commented out.  New lines should point to a URL on the network for both the main and universe repositories.
[07:22] <ray__> you know, letting the computer choose what's right settings
[07:22] <tatonka> omac: could u tell me what to add/cut out?
[07:22] <CHodapp> Rajuu, what do you need exactly?
[07:22] <Rajuu> CHodapp: ah lol your packages are named differently to mine
[07:22] <CHodapp> Rajuu, nah, I was trying to find the Debian packages . . . I install mine usually from source
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> ramengirl: Ick.  If you know the partition numbers you may be able to just make one.  I could pastebin my Windows-booting entry and you could modify that and hope it works.
[07:22] <Centaur5> ray__: I was told earlier dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:23] <ray__> thank you
[07:23] <Centaur5> no prob, it didn't work for me though  :)
[07:23] <omac> tatonko: add the folowing line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[07:23] <meta-ridley> does ubuntu have cfdisk or fdisk?
[07:23] <Rajuu> it has both
[07:24] <meta-ridley> good
[07:24] <ramengirl> Tony: I think I will try those commands to see if that helps. If not I'll try the alternative install disk. Thanks for your help.
[07:24] <omac> tatonko: add this line for the universe repositories:deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[07:24] <meta-ridley> i havent actually installed it yet
[07:24] <meta-ridley> i just pretend i use it
[07:24] <tatonka> omac: i fixed it:D thanks
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> ramengirl: Okay.  (If you change your mind though, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15004)  Good luck.
[07:24] <Roger_The_Bum> how do you get GRUB to default to windows in a dual-booting environment
[07:24] <nahtical> I've tried both Ubuntu's built in partition editor, and a another partition editor, and neither will let me resize my NTFS partition, as it errors out within a couple of seconds. Any ideas?
[07:24] <Roger_The_Bum> and how do you switch
[07:25] <neil__> can somebody help me? ubuntu dapper drake 6.06 is telling me it can't mount my usb thumb drive
[07:25] <omac> tatonka: wait....  add some lines for security updates from the main and the universe:deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> Roger_The_Bum: There's an option in menu.lst called default and you just set the number.
[07:25] <IcemanV9> meta-ridley: tmi (too much info) :P
[07:25] <omac> tatonka: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[07:25] <Roger_The_Bum> what if they're on different hard drives
[07:25] <rpedro> hello, is there anyway to get the packages from a  dapper final iso to create a xubuntu iso with jigdo? I tried mounting the iso with the '-o loop' option and point jigdo-lite to the pool directory, pool/main and pool/restricted , but I always get this error : File `dapper-alternate-i386.template' does not exist!
[07:25] <bk_> neil__, have you ever gotten it mounted with Breezy badger?
[07:25] <meta-ridley> if my airport extreme works i will be pretty happy
[07:26] <tatonka> omac: add multiverse after that univeese?
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> Roger_The_Bum: Doesn't matter.  As long as the grub menu has the right entries, you're just telling it the number of the entry.
[07:26] <detectiveinspekt> ubuntu can't pick up the dns my router picks up, so I have to enter it manually
[07:26] <[CC] Impsy> should i install ubuntu before i try to fix my serial mouse?
[07:26] <Jigglywiggler> hi all I want to download linux ubuntu but the screen just says pc, mac and amd-64.  where do I find the linux version?
[07:26] <omac> tatonka:  for mplayer/xine stuff for playing videos/dvd's and vcd's(mpg): deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[07:26] <[CC] Impsy> wow jigly
[07:26] <rixth__> Aw, #ubuntu has one less user than #gentoo
[07:26] <[CC] Impsy> jiggly ubuntu is linux
[07:26] <Rajuu> CHodapp: Ok installed jack-tools... how do I use patchbay?
[07:26] <halibut> how can I install the package bcm43xx-fwcutter on to a computer with no internet connection (wireless isn't working)
[07:26] <nahtical> jigglywiggler: the PC version is probably the one you want
[07:26] <[CC] Impsy> so can anyone help
[07:26] <bk_> Jigglywiggler, what kind of computer do you have?  what's the namebrand?
[07:26] <CHodapp> Jigglywiggler, they're all Linux. You're not installing it on top of Linux - you ARE installing Linux.
[07:27] <meta-ridley> halibut: burn it to a cd?
[07:27] <g0dchild> hid3, when i try to install mambo/cms its telling me that it cant find mysql support- now mysql5's been installed with php5- support indicates that i need to compile php with mysql support- how do i do this through apt?
[07:27] <[CC] Impsy> before i edit the xorg.cfg do i need to install ubuntu
[07:27] <Jigglywiggler> oh :-/
[07:27] <g0dchild> or do i need to build from source?
[07:27] <halibut> meta-ridley, where do I download the package though? and how do I open it with synaptic?
[07:27] <CHodapp> Rajuu, the patchbay just routes sound around. Ideally, if you want to hear it, it needs to eventually end up at your sound card's outputs.
[07:27] <[CC] Impsy> to edit xorg.cfg do i need to install Ubuntu first?
[07:27] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: you can always dual-boot if you have big hd
[07:27] <Carlos> hello ther someone knows how to use a sm56 modemon amd64?
[07:27] <Doomhammer> jigglywiggler: x86, ppc, and x86_64 are types of processors in your computer, not types of linux
[07:28] <Rajuu> Well I want it to go to my outputs after my recording software..
[07:28] <[CC] Impsy> i dont iceman..
[07:28] <[CC] Impsy> very small..
[07:28] <Rajuu> CHodapp:  Well I want it to go to my outputs after my recording software..
[07:28] <[CC] Impsy> like very you wouldnt believe small
[07:28] <meta-ridley> you cna probably get it from a mirror
[07:28] <[CC] Impsy> i dont want windows 98 anyways
[07:28] <detectiveinspekt> Diper day today
[07:28] <meta-ridley> then you need to download the firmware
[07:28] <CHodapp> Rajuu, you can send it to both at once - your recording software might not have outputs of its own.
[07:28] <Rajuu> it does
[07:28] <Rajuu> but how anyway?
[07:28] <CHodapp> Start up the software. Ports should appear.
[07:28] <CHodapp> The recording software, that is.
[07:28] <[CC] Impsy> so if u use just the normal install do i need to do anythign?
[07:28] <[CC] Impsy> *i
[07:29] <[CC] Impsy> or is it auto?
[07:29] <tatonka> omac: universint isnt there still
[07:29] <Rajuu> wait do I have to start jack-rack before my ladspa client?
[07:29] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: good riddance. win98? dapper is lotta better!! ha. anyhow, you can edit xorg.conf while in livecd mode. i have done a few.
[07:29] <[CC] Impsy> k..
[07:29] <Jigglywiggler> I have compaq 266 celeron
[07:29] <omac> tatonka: from what I understand, line order in the sources.list doesn't matter much since the package categories are inherently named and the install of the different packages are based on the category and other rules which I don't want to discuss in detail.  For a better understanding read up on building your own ubuntu packages in the wiki.
[07:29] <[CC] Impsy> but it came up with an error
[07:29] <mardi> When I start up WiFi Radar (or any other internet controller for that matter) the touchpad mouse on the laptop goes nuts. Any suggestions?
[07:29] <[CC] Impsy> after i saved and quit x
[07:29] <Doomhammer> jigglywiggler: then you want the "x86" version
[07:29] <[CC] Impsy> it said "sudo" is not a something rather
[07:29] <CHodapp> Rajuu, it doesn't really matter what order, but you can't connect a port until you start the program, generally
[07:29] <eduardo> what is the xf86cfg of ubuntu?
[07:30] <mikedep333> !xgl
[07:30] <ubotu> it has been said that xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:30] <Carlos> Any idea to run a motorola sm56 modem on dapper x86_64
[07:30] <Madpilot> eduardo, Ubuntu uses Xorg, not Xfree86
[07:30] <[CC] Impsy> iceman
[07:30] <meta-ridley> is xgl gpl?
[07:30] <[CC] Impsy> how difficult is the install?
[07:30] <CHodapp> I'm thinking it has to be
[07:30] <carmona> hi
[07:30] <eduardo> what is the xf86cfg similar of ubuntu?
[07:30] <carmona> thx
[07:30] <carmona> lol
[07:30] <dallgood> is there a recent xgl guide for nvidia cards?
[07:30] <meta-ridley> i hope
[07:30] <Doomhammer> eduardo: try "xconfig" - i think that's the command
[07:31] <jmibanez> Carlos: short answer: you can't
[07:31] <omac> tatonka: you need to click the "refresh" button in the package manager gui.  If you use aptitude in a terminal, press "u"(update), then wait until it tells you it is finished updating your list.  Then you click ok/enter and then search for the xine/totem/mplayer packages.  You should find them now.
[07:31] <tatonka> omac: what was the link to ass for mplayer
[07:31] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: not hard; what kind of machine do you have? the one you want to install ubuntu on.
[07:31] <jmibanez> Carlos: long answer: you might be able to, but you'll have to run everything (and I mean *everything*) on a 2.4.x kernel
[07:31] <DavidJaq> I need to install the legacy nvidia drivers for my old diamond viper tnt2 card for ubuntu... but when I tried yesterday it needed all these other packages to be installed, like at least two dozen other packages, and when I rebooted it trashed my system... is there an automated way to download all the requirements for the legacy drivers?
[07:31] <[CC] Impsy> what do you mean
[07:31] <jmibanez> Carlos: the Motorola SM56 is binary-only
[07:31] <[CC] Impsy> what kind of specs you asking about
[07:31] <Carlos> thanks it finally i gues i will have to run it with the live one
[07:31] <jmibanez> Carlos: however, you can try running sl-modem-daemon against it, see if that works (i seriously doubt it though)
[07:32] <omac> tatonka:  for mplayer/xine stuff you add the line:deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[07:32] <Sir_Brizz> Does anyone know how to make the Kernel look for a device on a differnet IRQ? In Breezy, my NIC card is on IRQ11 and works properly, in Dapper it's on 9 and doesn't work at all...
[07:32] <jmibanez> Carlos: get back to me if you do get it working with sl-modem-daemon-- heck, get back to me in any case
[07:32] <Carlos> mean of i386
[07:32] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: yes. you said your hd is very small. it got me thinking tha you must have 486 box or something :)
[07:32] <[CC] Impsy> i got a 4gb
[07:32] <[CC] Impsy> i have enough space for some other crap on it
[07:32] <tatonka> omac: is there suppost to be that space after /
[07:32] <Jigglywiggler> thank u all
[07:32] <[CC] Impsy> im buying a 1000$ computer this summer
[07:32] <CHodapp> Rajuu, I don't know that you need JACK-Rack - I think Ecamegapedal is acting as your LADSPA client
[07:32] <eduardo> Madpilot: so how do I reconfigure
[07:32] <jmibanez> Carlos: yeah, it's an ia32 binary
[07:32] <Rajuu> CHodapp: Ok so.. say I dont have any software started, say I just want to input into jackrack and then out to my soundcard, how do I do that?
[07:32] <carmona> how can I configure my SVGA Card on Ubuntu?
[07:32] <[CC] Impsy> its 350mhz, 192mb
[07:33] <[CC] Impsy> ive read and it seems to be enough
[07:33] <omac> tatonka: If I put it there, it should be there :)
[07:33] <Rajuu> I cant see any kind of input-output options or plugins
[07:33] <CHodapp> Rajuu, oh... is jackd running?
[07:33] <DavidJaq> also, I really like Instlux, as it allows me to bypass my computer's lack of an ability to boot from CD... but it won't allow me to install Dapper, just Breezy... I've tried manually doing it, but I can't get it to work.... is there a program like instlux that'll work with Dapper?
[07:33] <Rajuu> jackd is running yeah
[07:33] <omac> tatonka: yes there is a space after deb and before etch.
[07:33] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: ah. ok. it is SMALL, then. you might want to install xubuntu instead. gnome will be running slow.
[07:33] <Carlos> jmibanez:i found the .o part and a way to compile the .ko file but only in i386, going back to live cd of i386
[07:33] <[CC] Impsy> hmm xubuntu>?
[07:34] <DavidJaq> I need to install the legacy nvidia drivers for my old diamond viper tnt2 card for ubuntu... but when I tried yesterday it needed all these other packages to be installed, like at least two dozen other packages, and when I rebooted it trashed my system... is there an automated way to download all the requirements for the legacy drivers?
[07:34] <meta-ridley> fluxbuntu... does that exist?
[07:34] <jmibanez> Carlos: exactly... are you using the kludge?
[07:34] <tatonka> omac: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[07:34] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: of course, you might want to back up some important docs or stuff to CD or external hd first.
[07:34] <jet87> has anyone in here had mounting errors where the system says the drive isn't a block device?
[07:34] <jmibanez> Carlos: the binary is *really* broken, so you'll have to compile the small kludge against it
[07:34] <frank23> DavidJaq: do you actually need 3d acceleration?
[07:34] <[CC] Impsy> does it do the same stuff IcemanV9
[07:34] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: xubuntu is XFCE desktop
[07:34] <Rajuu> CHodapp:  jackd is running yeah
[07:34] <DavidJaq> No, I don't, but I would like a larger resolution than 640x480
[07:34] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9: no idea what that ius
[07:35] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: yes, just different desktop such as gnome, kde & xfce
[07:35] <CHodapp> Rajuu, hrm... try clicking 'new' in the patchbay
[07:35] <Doomhammer> davidjaq: can't you change your availible resolutions via editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:35] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9: bah i must go buy another cd-r tomorrow
[07:35] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: hence, ubuntu, kubuntu & xubuntu :)
[07:35] <frank23> DavidJaq: you should be able to get a higher resolution just using the nv driver....
[07:35] <CHodapp> Rajuu, I'm used to patchage and jack-patch
[07:35] <Carlos> jmibanez: yeah and when i tried it (on amd64) ld told me that it cannot link x86_64 object to  i386 ones
[07:35] <frank23> !tell DavidJaq about fixres
[07:35] <amac> anyone using wine with steam?
[07:35] <Rajuu> its wierd cause the first time I started jack-rack I did see some routing
[07:36] <Rajuu> but now my rack is just completely empty
[07:36] <amac> i tried to install steam but it seems to crash at the 27% mark
[07:36] <jmibanez> Carlos: you can't *grimace*
[07:36] <Rajuu> :/
[07:36] <DavidJaq> also, I really like Instlux, as it allows me to bypass my computer's lack of an ability to boot from CD... but it won't allow me to install Dapper, just Breezy... I've tried manually doing it, but I can't get it to work.... is there a program like instlux that'll work with Dapper?
[07:36] <Centaur5> Isn't the broadcom 4318 card supposed to work on the live install cd?
[07:36] <Carlos> i did not know it was i386 only
[07:36] <eduardo> Is Xubuntu much more light than the others?
[07:36] <CHodapp> Rajuu, I'm not sure what's going on . . . I'm only seeing MIDI now. I'm not used to this one's patchbay.
[07:36] <blanky> when I grow up I wanna work at cannonical
[07:36] <jmibanez> Carlos: sad fact, 'mfraid
[07:36] <CHodapp> Rajuu, ah, wait... click 'connect' in the main window
[07:36] <Rajuu> where/how can I get patchbay?
[07:36] <Rajuu> and that works with jack-rack hm?
[07:37] <Doomhammer> davidjaq: you can just install breezy then upgrade to dapper
[07:37] <frank23> DavidJaq: did you install using the text installer?
[07:37] <IcemanV9> eduardo: xfce is lighter than others if that's what you meant; then, yes
[07:37] <MTecknology> Just saw that there was a hoax virus for OpenOffice.org... I'm just curious, has there ever been a real virus threat for Linux?
[07:37] <DavidJaq> No, Frank
[07:37] <Doomhammer> mtecknology: yeah, there have been like 2 :-D
[07:38] <meta-ridley> a couple proof of concept
[07:38] <Carlos> jmibanez: is the smart link driver the one i need to test?
[07:38] <eduardo> IcemanV9:  I know is lighter, I wanna know if is the difference is big
[07:38] <frank23> DavidJaq: if the breezy text installer worked with it, the dapper test installer might work too
[07:38] <MTecknology> Doomhammer, what were they?
[07:38] <Doomhammer> there actually were a few back when RH5 was around, weren't there ? :S
[07:38] <jmibanez> Carlos: not the smart link driver per se
[07:38] <jmibanez> Carlos: apt-get install sl-modem-daemon
[07:38] <Doomhammer> mtecknology: not sure, check like norton or symantec's websites - they usually have them listed
[07:38] <frank23> MTecknology: its not a hoax virus, just a macro aparently
[07:38] <jmibanez> Carlos: there's a user-mode daemon that can be used against some modems
[07:38] <jmibanez> Carlos: winmodems, i mean
[07:39] <DavidJaq> when I tried the installer with instlux it said the wrong disc was in until I replaced the dapper disc with my breezy disc... I love the GUI installation that comes with dapper and I dislike the installation that comes with breezy
[07:39] <MTecknology> aight
[07:39] <jmibanez> Carlos: the winmodems that the daemon seems to work against all support ac97
[07:39] <|bart|> one people know about wireless?
[07:39] <jmibanez> Carlos: i've been told (and i haven't tried it myself yet) that the motorola sm56 also kind of works with it
[07:39] <meta-ridley> only one
[07:39] <jmibanez> Carlos: you can also try out the smartlink kernel driver too, see if that works with it
[07:39] <jmibanez> Carlos: in any case you'll have to grab sl-modem-daemon too
[07:40] <tatonka> omac: universe still isnt showing up
[07:40] <Carlos> jmibanez: i got an old Ambient controllerlles modem too but i can't find the driver (have too machines)
[07:40] <IcemanV9> eduardo: there are list of what is on CD that you can check out; thundar for xfce = gnome-terminal for gnome = kconsole for kde
[07:40] <jmibanez> Carlos: fwiw, i have a sm56 lying around-- i did the kludge :))
[07:40] <thorin> Does anyone know the status of Intel ICH7 SATA controllers under Dapper?
[07:40] <rpedro> can I reuse the packages from a ubuntu cd with jigdo to create a xubuntu iso?
[07:40] <omac> tatonka:  nothing is perfect.  Ignore this error.  Just install it anyways.  If you're paranoid, just don't install it.
[07:40] <halibut> how can I download a package on one pc and install it on another?
[07:40] <frank23> rpedro: my guess is yes.
[07:40] <IcemanV9> eduardo: somewhere on ubuntu.com; i don't remember which page right now
[07:40] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9: so Xubuntu will run alot faster on my computer then?
[07:40] <jmibanez> Carlos: i'm thinking i'm masochistic enough to try reverse engineering the driver :))
[07:41] <CHodapp> Rajuu, any luck?
[07:41] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: yes
[07:41] <eduardo> IcemanV9: man, what is terminal? :)
[07:41] <jmibanez> Carlos: in any case, sometimes the pain isn't that worth it-- i copped out about a year ago and bought myself an external modem
[07:41] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9: And will it probably still not detect my mouse
[07:41] <jmibanez> Carlos: still have the sm56 board lying around here somewhere
[07:41] <tatonka> omac: i didnt install it, now what do i do
[07:41] <rpedro> frank23: but I'm getting this error when I point jigdo-lite to the mounted iso : File `dapper-alternate-i386.template' does not exist!  :-/
[07:41] <tatonka> omac: did*
[07:42] <Carlos> jmibanez: here it is difficult to find a hardware modem (windows is the emperor here)
[07:42] <omac> tatonka:  what makes you say the universe is not showing up?  Did you see the download progress for the new package lists?
[07:42] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: i don't know; cannot promise you. you could try xubuntu livecd or research more in ubuntuforums.org
[07:42] <jmibanez> Carlos: where are you anyway?
[07:42] <thorin> I am getting I/O errors on my SATA disks with an Intel 'Matrix' controller, in IDE or AHCI modes.
[07:42] <tatonka> omac: i added that line, and i tried refeshing it, and i got that error
[07:42] <Carlos> jmibanez: Honduras
[07:42] <CHodapp> I eventually got a decent hardware modem... but I had a Lucent WinModem before then
[07:42] <CHodapp> damn thing barely even worked on Windows
[07:42] <jmibanez> Carlos: ah
[07:43] <frank23> rpedro: I don't know much sbout jigdo. but my guess is that the .debs in ubuntu and those in xubuntu are the same
[07:43] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9: So your positive it would run crappy if i used Ubuntu?
[07:43] <Carlos> jmibanez: ah for what?
[07:43] <omac> tatonka: GPG error about the public key you mean again?  you should be able to ignore that error for marillat's package list.
[07:44] <tatonka> omac: ok, what do i do now?
[07:44] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: with 192 MBs of RAM, you can still try ubuntu as well
[07:44] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: it will run, but it might be slow for your taste. i don't know. some are satisified with its speed.
[07:44] <jmibanez> Carlos: nothing in particular-- i'm in the philippines :)
[07:44] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: how would i remove it afterwords and try xubuntu?
[07:44] <exploitr> Anyone able to give some quick insight into a problem I'm having with wpasupplicant?
[07:44] <Carlos> Anyone knows how to get an old Ambient Technologies controlerless modem driver
[07:44] <omac> tatonka: go to the package manager and then search for "xine"
[07:45] <rpedro> frank23: ok, I'm still looking for an howto for jigdo specific to ubuntu (the debian ones haven't been much help) but if could find a way to put all the packages in one folder like apt-get cache I think it would work
[07:45] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: once you install ubuntu,  just install the   xubuntu-desktop  package to install xubuntu as well. then you can either log in to ubuntu or xubuntu
[07:45] <dallgood> is there a recent xgl guide for nvidia cards?
[07:45] <Kr0ntab> exploitr, what prob ya having
[07:45] <Puffball> Everytime I boot to the Ubuntu Dapper Drake disk, at the "Setting locales" step in booting, it fails with this constant invoking of the disc and returns errors that have to do with a labyrinth of numbers and "hdb"
[07:45] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: you can install both and pick one that you want to run at login screen, such as, install ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop afterward
[07:45] <jmibanez> Carlos: have you tried running the scanModem script from linmodems.org?
[07:45] <exploitr> Kr0ntab, I'm following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[07:45] <tatonka> omac: xine-ui
[07:45] <tatonka> omac: ?
[07:45] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: i have no internet on the computer i am installing it onto plus only 4gb?
[07:46] <Kr0ntab> ok... what version of ubuntu ya running
[07:46] <dallgood> does anyone know of a good guide to install xgl for a geforce 6800?
[07:46] <omac> tatonka: et voila! yes.
[07:46] <exploitr> badger 5.10
[07:46] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: oh. then try one at a time I guess
[07:46] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: would it reinstall over ubuntu
[07:46] <HedgeMage> Anyone know of a good GUIfied SVN client I can recommend to a newbie I'm helping?
[07:46] <Kr0ntab> exploitr, whats the issue then..
[07:46] <exploitr> I'm up to the part where I have to do wpa_passphrase, The password we use is only 7characters long
[07:46] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: like just run it like a livecd?
[07:46] <Kr0ntab> ok
[07:46] <jet87> yeah, i've asked this before, but has anyone in here had mounting errors where the system says the drive isn't a block device?
[07:46] <poningru> HedgeMage: svk
[07:46] <MTecknology> What was the forum link for Ubuntu Marketing?
[07:46] <Carlos> jmibanez: Yeah ambient was bought by Cyrrus and Cyrrus by Intel so i did not knew how does this modem is really called not even scanmodem)
[07:46] <exploitr> and it gives an error
[07:46] <tatonka> omac: thank u sooo much man, u hloped me fix that annoying error too
[07:46] <poningru> MTecknology: ubuntupeople.com
[07:47] <MTecknology> ty
[07:47] <exploitr> saying that the passphrase has to be 8 to 63characters long
[07:47] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: install ubuntu, try it.  then install xubuntu (you'll lose ubuntu) and try that
[07:47] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: yes, it'll reinstall over ubuntu since hd is so small :)
[07:47] <jmibanez> Carlos: check the intel HAM kernel module :)
[07:47] <Kr0ntab> ahh i see...
[07:47] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: well. how can i get to the install icon
[07:47] <jmibanez> Carlos: might work :)
[07:47] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: ill get my mouse fixed after i install
[07:47] <HedgeMage> poningru: thanks
[07:47] <Kr0ntab> well... here's the deal... yer psk in wpa_supplicant.conf does not have to use the hash format...
[07:47] <poningru> night guys
[07:47] <Kr0ntab> you can put in in clear text.. surrounded by quotes.
[07:48] <Carlos> jmibanez: not even windows (windows xp that machine) knows a driver for it
[07:48] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: ummm either install using the alternate cd which has a text install
[07:48] <exploitr> so i would put - psk="Password" ?
[07:48] <Kr0ntab> not the most secure method... but just make it readable only by root.. and you should be ok for now.
[07:48] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: i haven't seen dapper livecd yet .. sounds like a good plan for fixing mouse after install
[07:48] <Kr0ntab> yup
[07:48] <exploitr> Awesome, thanks!
[07:48] <Kr0ntab> np
[07:48] <exploitr> Will give 'er a go now
[07:48] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: i need the mouse for the install./.
[07:49] <local_> does dapper have "scite"?
[07:49] <Kr0ntab> have fun  :-)
[07:49] <local_> i cnat find it
[07:49] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: not if you use the alternate cd
[07:49] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: the point is im trying to get it on tonight and i have no cd-r cd
[07:49] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: keyboard doesn't work?
[07:49] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: yes the keyboard works
[07:49] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: are you logged in ubuntu on that computer now?
[07:50] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: yes.
[07:50] <omac> tatonka: my pleasure :)  while you're at it, read up on audacity, dvdrip, ogg, vorbis, theora plugin, totem, ffmpeg, icecast2, flumotion :)
[07:50] <Carlos> jmibanze: but now i remembered that it was Ambient HAM controlerless modem
[07:50] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: use TAB to get around and enter/space to select
[07:50] <omac> tatonka:  oh yes don't forget mplayer!
[07:50] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: what will i have to do in the install tho.. i dont know much about anything
[07:50] <Carlos> jmibanez but now i remembered that it was Ambient HAM controlerless modem
[07:50] <tatonka> omac:  ok lol
[07:50] <intelikey> crimsun you round ?
[07:50] <baberomo> holas
[07:50] <tuxmaniac> !mplayer
[07:50] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:50] <baberomo> jj
[07:51] <baberomo> holas
[07:51] <jmibanez> Carlos: :)
[07:51] <jmibanez> Carlos: if it works, then it works :) if it doesn't, well... *shrug* *grin*
[07:51] <baberomo> quien me puede ayudar con metadistros
[07:51] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: will it pretty much guide itself thru?
[07:51] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: is it ok if you wipe everything on the hard drive?
[07:51] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: yes, there is nothing i need on it
[07:51] <frank23> [CC] Impsy: just use the defaults
[07:51] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: alright
[07:51] <IcemanV9> frank23: it's win98 on that box :)
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> well crap, dapper screwed up my bootloader   : )
[07:52] <[CC] Impsy> IcemanV9 / frank23: Win98 owns
[07:52] <[CC] Impsy> ok ill go try
[07:52] <CHodapp> Win98 is completely castrated :\
[07:52] <[CC] Impsy> brb
[07:52] <frank23> FunnyLookinHat: yeah the live cd installer doesn't even ask... how rude ;)
[07:52] <IcemanV9> [CC] Impsy: it is fairly easy to follow
[07:52] <[CC] Impsy> hopefully my computer isnt scarred for life after
[07:52] <intelikey> FunnyLookinHat welcome to dapper final
[07:52] <Carlos> jmibanez: Now intel's page tells Ambient technologies on its footer (refering to modems)
[07:52] <kapputu> how do I upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> Hahaha, the beta worked so well for me!
[07:52] <[CC] Impsy> (its upstairs btw, lots of running up and down)
[07:52] <intelikey> FunnyLookinHat ditto
[07:52] <kapputu> tell kapputu about Dapper
[07:53] <kapputu> !tell kapputu about Dapper
[07:53] <jmibanez> Carlos: :) sometimes it's useful to follow the chain of which company bought which
[07:53] <FunnyLookinHat> !dapper
[07:53] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[07:53] <FunnyLookinHat> kapputu, i can get u the link, one sec
[07:53] <frank23> !upgrade
[07:53] <frank23> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[07:53] <mikedep333> hey guys, dapper by default uses ALSA, not OSS, right?
[07:53] <intelikey> ok crimsun is not answering.... anyone else alsa pro ?
[07:53] <amac> right
[07:54] <baberomo> #
[07:54] <intelikey> by default
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> kapputu, gksudo update-manager -d
[07:54] <me> I'm trying to setup printing on a deskjet 710c, and I get the following from ptal-init -- 'Access denied to parallel port!' -- I don't think the parallel port exists, because I can't even cat to it.  any ideas?
[07:54] <FunnyLookinHat> in console type that
[07:54] <amac> although alsa does do oss emulation
[07:54] <frank23> mikedep333: it's alsa but there is a OSS compatibility thing in it too
[07:54] <mikedep333> frank23: yeah, thanks
[07:54] <[CC] Impsy> omg it was frozen when i came up
[07:54] <crimsun> intelikey: sorry, what's up? (this client's identify capab screws up nick highlighting)
[07:54] <mikedep333> and amac
[07:54] <amac> your welcome
[07:54] <amac> *you're
[07:54] <me> does anyone know how to test if the parallel port is available/working?  is cat /dev/parport0 > a_file.txt a possibility?
[07:55] <cm9> Hello, can anybody help me? I can't get my wireless to work and i'm somewhat new to linux
[07:55] <evi|one> Hello. Where should I put some firewall rules? What's the correct place?
[07:55] <intelikey> alsamixer wont open  asound/cards is cool   i think udev is not making /dev/snd/ devices  ???
[07:55] <CHodapp> cm9, what card, and what sort of trouble do you get?
[07:55] <omac> tatonka:  zynaddsubfx might be fun for you too :)  It is a gui analog music keyboard synthesizer for the musician in you :)
[07:55] <Rajuu> CHodapp: heh found out ardour has quite a nice mixer/rack
[07:55] <CHodapp> Ardour is quite nice
[07:55] <Rajuu> CHodapp: thanks for all your help
[07:55] <intelikey> crimsun also sound works if i use something like aumix to unmute it
[07:55] <CHodapp> Sure.
[07:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Rajuu, ardour is reallly sweet software
[07:56] <mikedep333> umm, guys, is there a good reason why Xorg would be using 336 megs of resident memory?
[07:56] <CHodapp> Rajuu, don't forget to stop in #lad - there are some pretty experienced people
[07:56] <mikedep333> shouldn't it be like 1/10th that at most?
[07:56] <CHodapp> omac, ZynAddSubFX is cool, everything is quite extensive
[07:56] <intelikey> crimsun of course it's always mute on boot      (no rhymn intended)
[07:56] <cm9> Well I can't get it to work (or I don't know how to work)..I have an acer aspire 5000 laptop... Hardware: Broadcomm 42xx
[07:56] <Carlos> jmibanez: i guess that if it works i will switch this computers modem
[07:57] <crimsun> intelikey: hmm, can you pastebin the error from amixer (is it a lib error or a device/permissions error)?
[07:57] <jmibanez> Carlos: well, good luck on that
[07:57] <jmibanez> i'm off
[07:57] <crimsun> intelikey: (amixer or alsamixer)
[07:57] <intelikey> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:57] <crimsun> intelikey: ok, but aumix works fine?
[07:57] <intelikey> yes
[07:57] <crimsun> intelikey: ok, and ``lsmod''?
[07:58] <intelikey> all modules loaded ok
[07:58] <crimsun> intelikey: which driver{,s}?
[07:58] <intelikey> no /dev/snd dir exists
[07:58] <colk> intelikey, did you load snd-pcm-oss
[07:58] <frank23> mikedep333: !bcm
[07:58] <crimsun> it sounds like you have oss drivers loaded instead
[07:58] <cm9> CHodapp, i'm also using the i386 version of ubuntu, don't knwo of that helps.. i've looked on the website and i found some things, but nothing
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> welll, lets try to install again, heh
[07:58] <frank23> !bcm
[07:58] <ubotu> frank23: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <Carlos> jmibanez: by the way do you know why the checkinstall script ends with segfault after upgradin breezy
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> I'd rather not manually hack my grub boot conf
[07:58] <intelikey> crimsun snd_es1688  amoung others
[07:58] <mikedep333> !bcm? broadcom?
[07:58] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mikedep333
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> !broadcom
[07:58] <frank23> mikedep333: sorry about that
[07:58] <ubotu> methinks broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[07:59] <exploitr> hey Kr0ntab, I tried that, but now when I try and start wpasupplicant, I get: "Invalid passphrase length 7 (expected: 8..63) 'password'. *next line* Failed to parse psk 'password'"
[07:59] <PPower> mikedep333: broadcom problems?
[07:59] <mikedep333> no
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Use that one   ^^^
[07:59] <CHodapp> cm9, looked for specific stuff about your card?
[07:59] <mikedep333> Xorg is using up 336 megs of ram
[07:59] <intelikey> crimsun yes snd-pcm-oss
[07:59] <Kr0ntab> woops...
[07:59] <mikedep333> 336 megs of resident memory
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[07:59] <cm9> CHodapp, what kind of specific stuff?
[07:59] <FunnyLookinHat> cm9, use that link
[07:59] <cm9> Alright
[07:59] <PPower> im good at setting up broadcom cards
[07:59] <frank23> mikedep333: are you sure?
[07:59] <mikedep333> yes
[07:59] <intelikey> crimsun sorry about slow answers. i know you are busy.
[07:59] <Carlos> mikedep333: wich applications do you have open
[07:59] <frank23> mikedep333: there are two kinds of memory usage
[07:59] <evi|one> Take 2: Hello. Where should I put some firewall rules? What's the correct place?
[08:00] <simpla> Hi all. Looking for other's running Nvidia Twinview on Dapper to confirm a very small bug related to keyboard focus on GDM (the login screen)
[08:00] <dts> so I installed sun's java from the repository but now Java is not in the environment, how do i select the active java runtime?
[08:00] <Doomhammer> simpla: i'm running twinview, whatcha need ?
[08:00] <mikedep333> one sec
[08:00] <frank23> dts: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:00] <Doomhammer> simpla: i haven't noticed any bug, can you be more specific ?
[08:01] <simpla> Doomhammer: when GDM starts up and you haven't yet moved the mouse (so the mouse is still where GDM put it - in the center) has the Username box got focus?
[08:01] <exploitr> Any idea of where to go from here Kr0ntab? Would the "passphrase" its looking for differ to the "Network key" I put in in windows?
[08:01] <Kr0ntab> exploitr, I wonder if (a) this is a requirement for wpa standards compliance, (b) maybe just a best practice enforcement by wpa_supplicant maintainer, or (c) has an ovverride feature...
[08:01] <ajmitch_> simpla: that one is known
[08:01] <simpla> Doomhammer: the bug is that Username box only gets focus after I move the mouse over the GDM themed area
[08:01] <kaputtu> how do I open a program that requires root, in the background without having to make the password visible
[08:01] <crimsun> intelikey: if you unload all snd{,_*} modules and reload snd-es1688, is /dev/snd/ created?
[08:01] <mikedep333> frank23: http://depaulo.org/pics/Screenshot-System%20Monitor.png
[08:01] <ajmitch_> simpla: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/28712
[08:01] <Kr0ntab> lets google it.. :-)
[08:01] <simpla> ajmitch: ok thanks :)
[08:01] <Doomhammer> simpla: haven't really noticed it, but come to think of it i suppose not :O
[08:01] <omac> me:  does your deskjet 710c have a usb port also?  You might want to consider using the usb port.  hpijs, hplip, hpoj are to be installed but I noticed the USB support is easier to get going.   check the wiki and google for hp deskjet USB and parallel for more info.
[08:01] <frank23> kapputu: you don't want to do that
[08:01] <intelikey> crimsun let me check.
[08:01] <mikedep333> isn't resident memory the amount of your actual RAM that is used?
[08:03] <Carlos> mikedep333: in fact all that memory is shared among many apps
[08:03] <mikedep333> Carlos: is that including libraries used by other apps?
[08:03] <rixth> Installing Flash via Firefox's Plugin Updater does not work. Is this a known bug?
[08:03] <rixth> It has happened on 3 computers.
[08:03] <Carlos> mikedep333: for example some part of the 64 MiB of firefox are used by Xorg
[08:03] <omac> dts: you'll have to ditto the -config javac and other tools in your jdk bin directory.
[08:03] <mikedep333> Carlos: ok
[08:04] <mikedep333> just making sure I didn't have a memory leak
[08:04] <frank23> mikedep333: try  top  in a console and hit  M
[08:04] <kaputtu> anyone?
[08:04] <ipnet> hi anyone
[08:04] <kaputtu> have a question
[08:04] <kaputtu> how do I open a program that requires root, in the background without having to make the password visible
[08:04] <dbx_5> umm can some 1 help me learn how to use wine for mepis 3.3.3?
[08:04] <Carlos> mikedep333: The linux kernel is very consistant on memory management
[08:05] <mikedep333> drank23: Xorg has 391 virtual memory, 372 resident memory, and 10 shared
[08:05] <mikedep333> *frank23
[08:05] <ipnet> anyone know how i can use wine
[08:05] <mikedep333> ipnet: yes
[08:05] <frank23> mikedep333: maybe that is a memory leak
[08:05] <mikedep333> just install the package included in the ubuntu repo, and run: wine "program.exe"
[08:06] <mikedep333> frank23: ok, if it gets worse, I'll restart X
[08:06] <ipnet> where i can run it..
[08:06] <mikedep333> ipnet: you can invoke wine from any directory
[08:07] <rpedro> ipnet: but maybe run winecfg before running any apps
[08:07] <mikedep333> ipnet: I do not believe ubuntu creates shortcuts in your start menu though
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> exploitr, Im just looking at a large number of docs on WPA... and apparently, the common factor is that WPA requires a minimum of 8 characters...  Without reading the RFC yet, that would be my best guess.  Besides, you really don't want to have a passphrase shorter than 20.
[08:07] <ipnet> ehh how??
[08:07] <mikedep333> i agree
[08:07] <mikedep333> ipnet: just run: winecfg
[08:07] <mikedep333> by pressing alt+f2
[08:07] <mikedep333> or from a terminal
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> exploitr, for WPA-PSK  that is
[08:07] <mikedep333> a terminal within a graphical session that is
[08:08] <Carlos> Does somebody knows why checkinstall ends with seg fault after upgrading to dapper
[08:08] <FunnyLookinHat> FREAKIN DAPPER FSCKED MY INSTALLS
[08:08] <FunnyLookinHat> lol
[08:08] <FunnyLookinHat> And I'm a huge ubuntu fan, don't get me wrong
[08:08] <ipnet> where i can runt it..i'am totaly new in linux base os
[08:08] <exploitr> Yeah, That's what I thought -- But, in windows, my Netgear wireless manager says that our network is "WPA-PSK", yet it accepts the password
[08:08] <mikedep333> ipnet: do you have it installed?
[08:08] <Carlos> ipnet:use the terminal
[08:08] <ipnet> yup..i just install it
[08:09] <exploitr> It's not my network and I'm not game enough to tell my dad to use a bigger password ;-), so the security of it is not on the top of my priorities
[08:09] <ipnet> where i find the terminal ??
[08:09] <ipnet> :D
[08:09] <mikedep333> applications > accessories
[08:09] <Carlos> ipnet: in accesories
[08:09] <mikedep333> that is like the windows command prompt
[08:09] <kaputtu> hey, sudo emacs & asks for the password which is not masked. How do I mask it?
[08:09] <sethk> ipnet, look at the monitor   :)
[08:09] <sethk> kaputtu, no such thi8ng
[08:10] <sethk> s/thi8ng/thing/
[08:10] <ipnet> ok then??
[08:10] <mikedep333> I wish wine had a graphical utility to browse your filesystem or your C drive for apps to run
[08:10] <kaputtu> what the heck, I can see the password on the terminal
[08:10] <mikedep333> ipnet: terminal starts in your home directory
[08:10] <sethk> kaputtu, which password?
[08:10] <mikedep333> if you download something to it, you can just run: wine "program.exe"
[08:10] <mikedep333> you might want to run: winecfg first
[08:10] <mikedep333> just type those things in the terminal
[08:10] <ipnet> i thing so
[08:10] <Carlos> well wine-tools have one
[08:10] <kaputtu> sethk, root password
[08:11] <ipnet> this thing come out ipnet@ubPc10:~$
[08:11] <sethk> kaputtu, that's bizarre.
[08:11] <mikedep333> ipnet: yes
[08:11] <frank23> kaputtu: that's true! :(
[08:11] <ipnet> next step
[08:11] <mikedep333> ~ is an abbreviation for your homedirectory
[08:11] <DAaaMan64> I just received a new graphics card and installed it along with dapper, however any time I try to run something 3d, I get an error like this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:11] <mikedep333> run: winecfg
[08:11] <kaputtu> I know there is a workaround but I forget what it is
[08:11] <kaputtu> ok how do switch to the root user
[08:11] <sethk> kaputtu, the TERM variable must be wrong
[08:11] <kaputtu> assume I know what I'm doing
[08:11] <DAaaMan64> I have the drivers installed, or so says apt
[08:11] <mikedep333> and just let it open, then hit ok to close it
[08:12] <runes> help!  I have two drives the main drive I reinstalled the 32bit dapper after removing 64bit  now I cannot get my second drive formatted to ext3 to show.  It shows correctly in gnome partition editor but not when I try to mount it with discs
[08:12] <sethk> kaputtu, you can  do visudo  and change it to not require the password for that program, which is a quick way to hack around it
[08:12] <mikedep333> then once you have a windows executable like a program installer, just put it in your home directory (~) and run "wine whatever.exe
[08:12] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: which card?
[08:12] <mikedep333> remembering that linux is caps sensitive
[08:12] <sethk> kaputtu, of course you can just su to become root
[08:12] <DAaaMan64> Carlos 6800xt
[08:12] <kaputtu> sethk, no I don't want a hack
[08:12] <maikol> anyone know why ther is a iwconfig entry namd wlan0 with the name okuwlan?
[08:12] <allobjects> Can somebody look at some output from my 5.10 to 6.06 upgrade and advise what the problem is please ?
[08:12] <sethk> kaputtu, then you'll have to figure out how your configuration got totally borked
[08:12] <Rajuu> This just in: You dont actually need a brain to be an english teacher.. Updates as developments occur.
[08:12] <mikedep333> you also may be able to select an exe file from your file manager (like nautilus), and chose to open it with the command: wine
[08:12] <sethk> kaputtu, because passwords are, of course, not echoed
[08:12] <kaputtu> sethk, it's been like that always
[08:12] <ipnet> what is this meant ipnet@ubPc10:~$ run: winecfg
[08:12] <ipnet> bash: run:: command not found
[08:13] <stuNNed> gawd i'm having the most awful time trying to boot an ubuntu dvd from macosx
[08:13] <Agent_bob> crimsun remind me never to mess with kernel modules....
[08:13] <mikedep333> ipnet: just enter winecfg
[08:13] <frank23> kaputtu: oh... its because sudo is stopped
[08:13] <DAaaMan64> Carlos: why?
[08:13] <mikedep333> run: is how we let you know where our descriptive text ends, and where the command begins
[08:13] <kaputtu> frank23, yeah probably
[08:13] <sethk> kaputtu, so it's been borked from the beginning.  not really relevant.  I have 12 ubuntu systems here at the moment, and none of them echo passwords
[08:13] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: it is an nvidia one did you run the command the package description tells to use
[08:13] <frank23> kaputtu: when you enter the password, you're actually entering it in the shell as a command, not in sudo
[08:13] <kaputtu> sethk, when you open a program in the background?
[08:13] <Agent_bob> crimsun would udev not being installed cause /dev/snd/ not to be there ?
[08:14] <ipnet> this thing came out bash: wine: command not foun
[08:14] <DAaaMan64> woops, sorry never had an nvidea before, I will look
[08:14] <sethk> kaputtu, foreground, background, doesn't matter.
[08:14] <Carlos> mikedep333: there is xwine for gui
[08:14] <kaputtu> frank23, but why is that echoed back?
[08:14] <mikedep333> ipnet: if it is telling you command not found
[08:14] <mikedep333> then wine is not installed
[08:14] <Carlos> i have a FX 5200
[08:14] <Carlos> DAaaMan64:i have a FX 5200
[08:14] <ipnet> ic..but the package oredy install
[08:14] <ipnet> i thing :D
[08:14] <Agent_bob> anyone have this file or dir ?    Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-23-386
[08:14] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: it is almost the same process
[08:15] <kaputtu> is there a way to send a screenshot?
[08:15] <mikedep333> ipnet: what did you do to install it?
[08:15] <mikedep333> did you install it through add/remove programs (or synaptic itself)
[08:15] <flask_> !sound
[08:15] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:15] <frank23> kaputtu: because the program listening is not sudo, it's the shell. the program never actually gets run
[08:15] <crimsun> Agent_bob: yes (RE: udev), since udev receives the device events from the kernel and creates the appropriate /dev entries
[08:15] <juanca7777_>  I have a problem with OO, in the 'Page Preview' mode I don't have the zoom in/out features enabled, is this normal?
[08:15] <allobjects> If I have started an upgrade via the alternate dapper 6.06 CD, is it possible to switch and change to using the update manager ?
[08:15] <sethk> kaputtu, what's happening is that it believes that it has disabled echo.  that's why I said that the terminal configuration must be incorrect.
[08:15] <kaputtu> frank23, so how do I fix that?
[08:15] <DAaaMan64> Carlos: hey if it works why not :)
[08:15] <kaputtu> sethk, I have the defautl configuration
[08:16] <Oswyn> i don't have a 700 meg cdr handy. can i do a desktop install of 6.06 from the server install cd?
[08:16] <ipnet> i add app. ->repestory_>custom
[08:16] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable on a console
[08:16] <Agent_bob> crimsun i need to know what "Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-23-386
[08:16] <Oswyn> or is that something different completely
[08:16] <Agent_bob> that is ^
[08:16] <MTecknology> DAMN, I got a new debit card and it has a slightly changed number so I hve no idea how to recover my PayPal info
[08:16] <frank23> kaputtu: I think you cannot use sudo somecommand &     it cannot be put immediately in the background
[08:16] <Bilford> you can install Ubutnu from the internet?
[08:16] <sethk> kaputtu, what happens if you run sudo  (no args, just sudo)?
[08:16] <kaputtu> that's fine
[08:16] <Agent_bob> crimsun that is holding up udev installation
[08:16] <DAaaMan64> Carlos: found it, it didn't work and told me to edit the driver to "nvidia" myself, no problem I did. Need to restart though, I will get back to you, thanks :)
[08:16] <kaputtu> I'm talking about the scenario where you run it in the background
[08:17] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: After that restart X server with ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:17] <frank23> kaputtu: use sudo -s   to get a root shell
[08:17] <EddieVed> hey
[08:17] <EddieVed> I've got a problem when I'm running crossover
[08:17] <EddieVed> cxoffice/bin/cxtcl:error: error initializing Tk: 'this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"'. Check the DISPLAY variable (:1.0) and your access permissions (see xauth or xhost).
[08:17] <crimsun> Agent_bob: hmm, I don't have any such. If I remember your initramfs in /boot is named differently from the standard (but confusingly-named) initrd
[08:17] <EddieVed> any idea what that could mean?
[08:17] <rpedro> ipnet: try : sudo apt-get install wine  , in the console
[08:18] <Agent_bob> crimsun thanks.  you can go back to what ever.  i'll haller if i can't get it with udev installed.    and i'll get udev installed.   yeah i'm checking.
[08:18] <Agent_bob> thanks guy
[08:18] <DarkMageZ> under ubuntu dapper, when playing ioquake3 (cvs777), the mouse lags... but if i startup xgl & compiz, then run quake 3, then the mouse doesn't lag, any ideas?
[08:19] <juanca7777_>  I have a problem with OO, in the 'Page Preview' mode I don't have the zoom in/out features enabled, is this normal?
[08:19] <DAaaMan64> Carlos: thanks it seems to be work now :)
[08:20] <ipnet> this thing came out
[08:20] <ipnet> ipnet@ubPc10:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[08:20] <ipnet> Password:
[08:20] <ipnet> Sorry, try again.
[08:20] <ipnet> Password:
[08:20] <ipnet> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:20] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: it is easy, ubuntu is one of the few distros to do it this easy
[08:20] <ipnet> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:20] <allobjects> Can someone help me ? I'm part way through dapper upgrade from breezy and getting some errors fetching fiels
[08:20] <Agent_bob> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 5557007 May 30 05:56 initramfs.img-2.6.15-23-386
[08:20] <DAaaMan64> Carlos: I am a distro-whore, I have tried them all :p
[08:20] <Carlos> ipnet close synaptic and related
[08:20] <rpedro> ipnet: you need to exit synaptic first
[08:20] <Agent_bob> anyone have   /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-23-386   ?
[08:20] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: i have used mandriva 2006
[08:21] <MTecknology> If a person logs onto their eBay account, is it possible to view an unencrypted version of their credit card number?
[08:21] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: live can't see xorg without nvidia
[08:21] <Agent_bob> nobody have it ???
[08:22] <Flannel> MTecknology: I doubt it, since I believe eBay is https, which means it's encrypted.
[08:22] <DAaaMan64> Carlos: brb trying to install xgl
[08:22] <ipnet> ok now i get this
[08:22] <ipnet> ipnet@ubPc10:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[08:22] <ipnet> Reading package lists... Done
[08:22] <ipnet> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:22] <ipnet> Suggested packages:
[08:22] <ipnet>   msttcorefonts
[08:22] <ipnet> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:22] <ipnet>   wine
[08:22] <ipnet> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:22] <ipnet> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:22] <Agent_bob> Flannel do you have a /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-23-386  ???
[08:22] <ipnet> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[08:22] <La_PaRCa> Hey, I need some help with a motorola BB160 wireles pccard... anyone?
[08:22] <Kr0ntab> MTecknology, typically now... at least they better not.  most trustworthy companies employe SSL enabled web sites for CC transactions.
[08:22] <Flannel> ipnet: don't paste here.
[08:22] <ipnet> ok
[08:22] <Kr0ntab> now = no
[08:22] <Carlos> DAaaMan64: thats something i have not tried, can't download dapper from dialup
[08:23] <MTecknology> ipnet, www.pastebin.com
[08:23] <Flannel> Agent_bob: nope.
[08:23] <Agent_bob> nothing like it ?
[08:23] <kermitX_> mtecknology, afaik. ebay and paypal don't display an entire cc number or cvv once it's been entered and accepted into their system.
[08:23] <MTecknology> ok, ty
[08:23] <Bulltitan> geeeeeeeee i love xubuntu!,... killed windows today :P
[08:23] <MTecknology> :'(
[08:24] <MTecknology> i can't find old records either
[08:24] <kameron> i have a new sata2 drive, just plugged it in, booted the computer.. and it wouldn't boot, it complained about some IRQs... and then i tried to plug it in while the comp was running, and it froze my comp.
[08:24] <kermitX_> mtecknology: talk to your issuing bank about obtaining the previous number.
[08:24] <hanasaki> what is the channel for gl?
[08:24] <MTecknology> ok
[08:24] <kameron> how do i setup a sata2 drive?
[08:24] <Flannel> hanasaki: you mean xgl?
[08:24] <hanasaki> yes.. sorry
[08:24] <rpedro> ipnet: I don't know what that means (I'm new to linux too :-) , maybe you can try going back to synaptic to install wine
[08:24] <Flannel> hanasaki: #ubuntu-xgl
[08:24] <hanasaki> :)
[08:24] <salman> or opengl
[08:24] <hanasaki> bbiab
[08:24] <salman> ?
[08:24] <ipnet> ok thanks
[08:25] <Agent_bob> so nobody has a /lib/modules/initramfs.img*    that can tell me if it's a file a dir of a link ?
[08:25] <Carlos> ipnet get wine, wine-tools and xwine this time
[08:26] <Bulltitan> ubuntu is going up no doubt
[08:26] <Warbo> What config files would screw up Galeon, Firefox and Epiphany for a single user?
[08:26] <Flannel> Agent_bob: suggest you google
[08:26] <rpedro> ipnet: though maybe it means you forgot to type 'sudo' in front of the command , not sure...
[08:27] <rpedro> Carlos: I can't find wine-tools or xwine with the repositories I'm using
[08:27] <allobjects> I got some errors while upgrading to Dapper during sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , san someone please look at my terminal output at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15005 and advise
[08:28] <ipnet> i type it
[08:28] <Carlos> ipnet let me see where they are
[08:28] <Warbo> rpedro: xwine conflicts with wine I think
[08:28] <Carlos> Warbo: xwine recommends wine
[08:28] <Flannel> allobjects: you should remove all your extra repositories for the upgrade.
[08:29] <Warbo> Carlos: Does it? Well I haven't used (or seen) that package in a while anyway
[08:29] <Carlos> rpedro xwine is in universe and wine-tools too
[08:29] <rpedro> Carlos: ok I'm using wine.sf.net myself
[08:29] <allobjects> Flannel: How do I know what the standard set is ?
[08:30] <Warbo> Is there something in $HOME/.gnome2 that controls Firefox? Please help, I have no browser
[08:30] <jadaz87> PLEASE tell me why the dapper release is ONLY on DVD?
[08:30] <Flannel> jadaz87: it's not.
[08:30] <LadyNikon> i just burned it to cd
[08:30] <Flannel> allobjects: there's example source lists on the wiki, however it would be all the ubuntu domains, and nothing else.
[08:30] <ipnet> thanks guy i like installing now :D
[08:30] <Schalken> is there a free program to create flash (swf) files?
[08:30] <LadyNikon> jadaz87: its only like 450 mbs or something
[08:31] <Flannel> LadyNikon: that's the server one.  Desktop is 687
[08:31] <Madpilot> LadyNikon, it should be bigger than that.
[08:31] <frank23> jadaz87: no. most people use the cd image
[08:31] <jadaz87> Flannel: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/
[08:31] <klormexor> guys where are all the executable files in root/
[08:31] <jadaz87> ther are only dvds there frank23  Flannel
[08:31] <klormexor> I need to move something there but I dont know which folder to
[08:31] <Sputn1k> how to create *.deb from *.tgz?
[08:31] <salman> schalken: drawswf
[08:31] <Warbo> Schalken: There are a few attempts. The only free animation software I know is Synfig and ktoon. Flash can be made basically with swftools (swftools.org I think)
[08:31] <mikedep333> hey guys, what is the ubuntu way to manage samba accounts?
[08:31] <salman> this program's using java
[08:31] <LadyNikon> Flannel: i burned that one to a cd as well
[08:32] <mikedep333> do I have to user smbpasswd or is there a GUI?
[08:32] <allobjects> Flannel: So should I do this by gediting the sources.list manualy or through repositories in synaptic ?
[08:32] <frank23> jadaz87: hmmm yeah maybe on that server...
[08:32] <Schalken> salman, warbo: ill have a look at those, thnx
[08:32] <salman> Sputnik: alien-gui
[08:32] <frank23> jadaz87: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:32] <jadaz87> frank23: oh ok :-)
[08:32] <jadaz87> thanks Flannel LadyNikon frank23
[08:32] <Warbo> Schalken: Personally I use Moho (which isn't free, but it is very good) which can export SWF
[08:32] <Kr0ntab> allobjects, check this sources.list.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15006
[08:32] <jadaz87> see you all in 4.5 hours Flannel LadyNikon frank23
[08:33] <disinterested_pe> is dapper x86?
[08:33] <Flannel> allobjects: edit the sources manually.  just comment (#) out the rest of the lines.
[08:33] <Flannel> disinterested_pe: among others.
[08:33] <Warbo> disinterested_pe: and ppc and amd64
[08:33] <LadyNikon> gn jadaz87
[08:33] <allobjects> KrOntab: thanks
[08:33] <disinterested_pe> ok so the plugins for mozilla will work?
[08:34] <Schalken> has anyone run a 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit computer?
[08:34] <disinterested_pe> mozilla browser?
[08:34] <mikedep333> schalken: yes
[08:34] <salman> Schalken: try f4l
[08:34] <allobjects> Flannel: Many thanks for your time..I'll give that a go
[08:34] <La_PaRCa> Does the alternate-install cd have an option to install to a USB device?
[08:34] <mikedep333> oops
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> disinterested_pe, which plugins y referring too
[08:34] <Carlos> Schalken. i have
[08:34] <salman> it's under development though
[08:34] <Schalken> does it work properly?
[08:34] <disinterested_pe> helix player
[08:34] <frank23> Schalken: that's what I do i386 on athlon 64 cpu
[08:34] <Carlos> Schalken: it is just like the crappy m$ win i use now
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> yes...
[08:34] <Warbo> Schalken: Many people do to get nonfree stuff like Flash and Quicktime easier. Just install it and it should go fine (most people run 32bit windoze on 64bit)
[08:35] <rpedro> klormexor: what are you trying to do?
[08:35] <intelikey> crimsun booya  fixed that one.   fyi if that error about /lib/modules/initramfs.img*  comes up it's looking for the normal kernel modules dir.   symlink it to uname -r  same dir....     and getting udev installed fixed alsa.
[08:35] <klormexor> rpedro: for irc there is a name attached to my who is, can you see it? trying to take that off
[08:35] <kholerabb1> Could someone help me with installing apache on breezy
[08:35] <Schalken> cuz i think i will use 32bit ubuntu so i can get wmvs, cedega, flash et cetera to all work.
[08:36] <disinterested_pe> well goodnight
[08:36] <Schalken> and also my printer
[08:36] <frank23> Schalken: yeah its easier on 32bit
[08:36] <Warbo> Schalken: I get annoyed when people have to do that for WMV and stuff, but Cedega I would encourage it
[08:36] <kholerabb1> I don't know which file to download :( for apache
[08:36] <Carlos> Schalken: Tell it to me i hve too modems propietaries
[08:36] <klormexor> rpedro: oh wait that was another issue, i have realplayer i installed in a folder and execute from, but shouldnt be there, instead in the folder where it belongs to, where all the other i.e=gaim,firestarter.. etc progs should be
[08:36] <Warbo> kholerabb1: apache2 package
[08:36] <Mosi> Anyone know if Dapper has gone production yet?
[08:36] <klormexor> rpedro: any idea where the main exe's are
[08:36] <Kr0ntab> hahaa
[08:37] <Schalken> atleast then its one less thing to consider when something doesnt work.
[08:37] <Warbo> Mosi: It is released, yes
[08:37] <asdx> when ubuntu will switch from sysvinit to initng or something?
[08:37] <Mosi> warbo: is it still beta?
[08:37] <Warbo> Mosi: No
[08:37] <Mosi> warbo:thanks
[08:37] <intelikey> if anyone keeps notes on things like that.     error can not find /lib/modules/initramfs.img*    is looking for  /lib/modules/`uname -r`  you can symlink them.
[08:37] <Kr0ntab> asdx, they definitely made some improvements to the init scripts....
[08:37] <Schalken> Carlos: uhm, could you reconstruct that sentence?
[08:37] <kholerabb1> do I just download the "httpd-2.2.2.tar.bz2 " from http://apache.ausgamers.com/httpd/ ??
[08:37] <exploitr> How would I go about mounting my windows D:\ drive (Fat32) into ubuntu?
[08:38] <Warbo> Does anyone here understand firefox/mozilla preference files quite a bit?
[08:38] <Kr0ntab> but would be interesting to see if they ever move to initng...
[08:38] <Carlos> Schalken:I have to strange modems with precompiled drivers
[08:38] <Schalken> o
[08:38] <frank23> kholerabb1: use synaptic to install apache
[08:38] <Flannel> Warbo: suggest you join irc.mozilla.org and ask in #firefox
[08:38] <MTecknology> !!! :) Wrong email. I finally got logged in :)
[08:38] <ubotu> MTecknology: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:38] <asdx> kk
[08:38] <kholerabb1> Mounting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:38] <Warbo> kholerabb1: Use Synaptic for installing software
[08:38] <rpedro> klormexor: I don't think you really should be installing apps like that, you should use the package manager, or if it's something you compile it usually goes in the  /usr/local hierarchy
[08:38] <Schalken> cursed proprietary drivers
[08:38] <Carlos> Schalken: They work only on ia32 and i have an amd64
[08:38] <Warbo> Flannel: Good idea thanks
[08:38] <DarkLegacy> Uh guys
[08:39] <DarkLegacy> I think I flunked my Ubuntu installation
[08:39] <hyphenated> kholerabb1: no, that file is a source package. you probably want to run 'sudo apt-get install apache2'
[08:39] <DarkLegacy> I did the entire update manager inside of Breezy Badger, now Ubuntu won't boot up
[08:39] <intelikey> flannel  if anyone keeps notes on things like that.    that error can not find /lib/modules/initramfs.img*    is looking for  /lib/modules/`uname -r`  you can symlink them.      just telling you because i'll forget it before i see it again.
[08:39] <Flannel> !tell kholerabb1 about lamp
[08:39] <kholerabb1> OK, synaptic
[08:40] <DarkLegacy> Help please :(
[08:40] <klormexor> rpedro:  thats right, i just put it on the /usr/bin folder and it loads up fine but i want it where it belongs, Synaptic probabl installed it somewhere else so I might have my copy and synaptic, I just want to remove mine for good.
[08:40] <kholerabb1> ok, I'll try lamp
[08:40] <klormexor> whats the change dir command?
[08:40] <Carlos> DarkLegacy: what did you do?
[08:40] <kholerabb1> but.. er I just installed apache via synaptic.. should that matter?
[08:40] <intelikey> cd
[08:40] <klormexor> intelikey: same one to do a complete cd to /etc/bla/bla/bla ?
[08:40] <rpedro> klormexor: if you used some installer it will probably have an uninstall function
[08:41] <Flannel> kholerabb1: nope.  that's the correct way.
[08:41] <hyphenated> kholerabb1: that's a great way to install it :-)
[08:41] <intelikey> yep
[08:41] <stringbling> seriously?
[08:41] <klormexor> intelikey: thanks
[08:41] <intelikey> np
[08:41] <Mosi> Can anyone tell me what Dept is, and how it differs from Synaptic?
[08:41] <Mosi> *Adept
[08:41] <intelikey> !tell klormexor about cli
[08:41] <rpedro> klormexor: otherwise if you're sure it's just a folder with that one app, you can probably delete
[08:41] <stringbling> anybody recommend any basics linux tutorials
[08:41] <klormexor> rpedro: I dl the file from Realplay.com and ran it here and it ran ok
[08:41] <DarkLegacy> Carlos
[08:41] <kholerabb1> I can get php5 in ubuntu?
[08:41] <MTecknology> I saw an advertisement for purchasing Ubuntu stickers. it's a www.*.de site, can somebody tell me where to get these in english, or what language that site is in?
[08:41] <DarkLegacy> I downloaded the alternative Ubuntu 6.06 CD
[08:41] <DarkLegacy> Booted into Breezy Badger
[08:42] <DarkLegacy> and Ran the update manager
[08:42] <klormexor> rpedro:  exactly, i think ill do that and run synaptic again, let me see what it does
[08:42] <Flannel> kholerabb1: yes.  read what ubotu told you. it'll tell you all about LAMP setups.
[08:42] <rpedro> klormexor: though I would first move the folder to another place, make sure you don't need it, and then delete
[08:42] <Carlos> DarkLegacy: That heppened to me a month ago
[08:42] <xpcf> .
[08:42] <DarkLegacy> What the hell?
[08:42] <Carlos> DarkLegacy: using Flight7
[08:42] <DarkLegacy> :(
[08:42] <klormexor> rpedro: yep. hey that /etc/local folder doesnt exist
[08:42] <DarkLegacy> Agh
[08:42] <xpcf> !stat xpc
[08:42] <DarkLegacy> Failed to start X Server
[08:42] <ubotu> xpcf: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:42] <Goshawk> hi, i've issues with Dapper. The desktop iso does not recognize the correct screen resolution on and Asus laptop. The alternate version do it, but it installs lilo.
[08:43] <DarkLegacy> My installation is batched, I'm probably going to reformat
[08:43] <klormexor> rpedro: is thta the normal path to all exe's
[08:43] <rpedro> klormexor: sorry, /usr/local
[08:43] <klormexor> ah ok
[08:43] <DarkLegacy> Alternative CD however, doesn't boot
[08:43] <Goshawk> Breezy didn't have these problems
[08:43] <xpcf> !stat xpcf
[08:43] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xpcf
[08:43] <stringbling> DarkLegacy, jus cuz a failed xstart
[08:43] <Carlos> DarkLegacy: It seems to be o problem with initramfs no?
[08:43] <xpcf> pff
[08:43] <kholerabb1> Can I replace aptitude with apt-get.. or is there a difference?
[08:43] <DarkLegacy> It asks me to insert CD2 when I put the alternative CD
[08:43] <klormexor> rpedro: there's a few folders in there but some are empty
[08:44] <Mosi> Can anyone tell me what the difference is between adept and synaptic?
[08:44] <rpedro> klormexor: there is no central place for all the binaries in linux; some have them in /usr/bin, some other places, synaptic takes care of that
[08:44] <klormexor> rpedro: gonna remove and reinstall realplayer
[08:44] <stringbling> i'm glad im witnessing all these dapper dramas...i'll be stickin with breezy
[08:44] <Goshawk> is it normal that Dapper alternate installs lilo instead of grub?
[08:44] <Kr0ntab> khaije1, aptitude relies on apt...  its a front end tot he package manager.
[08:45] <Kr0ntab> oops
[08:45] <klormexor> rpedro: aghhh, well i did this only cuz synaptic wasnt doing that for me, but oh well ill do it all over again
[08:45] <splat1234> I'm running 5.10.  About 30 seconds into starting up the system, my Gnome session is interrupted with a box for an LTSP name and password, which screws with my input, makes my graphics weird, and eventually blows away Gnome entirely.
[08:45] <Kr0ntab> kholerabb1, , aptitude relies on apt...  its a front end tot he package manager.
[08:45] <Carlos> stringbling: most of this dramas are becuse of update
[08:45] <splat1234> Can anyone help me?  It's maddening.
[08:45] <Madpilot> stringbling, there were just as many dramas here when Breezy was released, trust me
[08:45] <splat1234> I've tried this on both my desktop and on a VMWare session.
[08:45] <|bart|> !ndiswrapper
[08:45] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:45] <stringbling> carlos, really?
[08:45] <DarkLegacy> lol
[08:45] <DarkLegacy> Dapper is turning out to be a nightmare
[08:45] <spowers> what's the status of flashplugin-nonfree in dapper?
[08:45] <Flannel> DarkLegacy: not really.  Breezy was worse, from what I've seen so far.
[08:45] <spowers> multiverse i mean
[08:45] <Goshawk> DarkLegacy: you right
[08:46] <kholerabb1> kr0ntab: I meant in the command line: sudo aptitude install apache2.. could be replaced with sudo apt-get install apache2??
[08:46] <JDahl> I can't get my ATI X800 VGA card working proberly on an AMD64.  The free ATI driver won't start X (no screen found), the vesa driver crashes my machine when I start X, and the fglrx driver crashes my machine when I quit X... Anyone've actually had success with the combination AMD64 with a recent ATI gfx?
[08:46] <stringbling> Madpilot, i hear ya, maybe i'll switch to dapper right before the next new release
[08:46] <Carlos> stringbling: yes, it happens all the time when a distro gets updated
[08:46] <DarkLegacy> Flannel, Breezy's installation was a... breeze.
[08:46] <duckdown> How can I make a window STAY ON TOP in Gnome?  I desperately need this figured out.  I detatched an XCHAT window and resized it, and I need it to "Stay on top".  I cannot find this any how by right-clicking the titlebar or browsing any menues.
[08:46] <Madpilot> stringbling, think seriously about just reinstalling, it's the damn dist-upgrade that seems to break things
[08:46] <Mosi> can anyone remind me what the path is to sources.list?
[08:46] <wraaa> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:46] <Madpilot> Mosi, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:46] <Goshawk> duckdown: right click---> on top
[08:46] <Mosi> thanks ^_^;
[08:47] <DarkLegacy> How do I get my laptop to boot the alternative CD from bootup? I have less than 192MB of ram, and I need to reformat.
[08:47] <wraaa> :)
[08:47] <torpedo|dog> Is there a way to get Gstreamer to work with AAC files? I've installed all the packages at RestrictedFormats and it doesn't seem to work.
[08:47] <duckdown> Goshawk> I don't have that option
[08:47] <Goshawk> duckdown: right click on the title bar ofthe windows
[08:47] <Flannel> DarkLegacy: put it in, make sure your BIOS has CD higher boot preference than your HD.
[08:47] <DarkLegacy> It does
[08:47] <Burgundavia> duckdown: you need devilspie
[08:47] <duckdown> Goshawk> I know, Im trying :(
[08:47] <DarkLegacy> Hold n
[08:47] <duckdown> I thinkg something changed
[08:47] <DarkLegacy> I'll read you the error message Flannel
[08:47] <duckdown> with these last reboots.
[08:47] <DarkLegacy> Give me a sec
[08:47] <stringbling> Madpilot, so theres a way to reinstall without losing all my files and settings?
[08:47] <ghettosmurf69> what is the nautils or whatever command so i can copy files into the "www" directory?
[08:47] <duckdown> i cant do it anymore
[08:48] <Madpilot> stringbling, assuming you've got a seperate partition for /home, yes
[08:48] <MTecknology> What were the first versions of Ubuntu? and Where can I get a copy of those versions?
[08:48] <Goshawk> duckdown: it works for me
[08:48] <KenSentMe> ghettosmurf69: sudo cp files /var/www
[08:48] <duckdown> Goshawk> I'm gonna restart some stuff.  Thanks man
[08:48] <piqqy> Hello there, anyone have any luck with getting XGL to work on Xubuntu 6.06?
[08:48] <piqqy> I'm having major issues with it.
[08:48] <stringbling> maintains all the same installed packages too Madpilot ?
[08:48] <Goshawk> duckdown: if i do it in xchat, the window is upon the others even if it's not active
[08:48] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[08:49] <wraaa> i installed beep media player, where would i find its location on my hardrive?
[08:49] <DarkLegacy> IsoLinux (Flannel): Cannot boot from this CD. Please use CD2 or try a BIOS update.
[08:49] <ghettosmurf69> thanks
[08:49] <Madpilot> stringbling, no... you will have to re-install packages, but your settings will be saved
[08:49] <DarkLegacy> What CD2 are they talking about?
[08:49] <rpedro_> piqqy: /j #ubuntu-xgl
[08:49] <stringbling> Madpilot, i see, sounds tedious
[08:49] <piqqy> rpedro thanks man
[08:49] <Goshawk> DarkLegacy: :D
[08:49] <Madpilot> stringbling, can be, yeah, but if dist-upgrade breaks your install anyway...
[08:50] <wraaa> should i leave things universed and multiversed :|
[08:50] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, I get an error message when starting an video file to play: "Could not open/initialize audio device > no sound" Is there a chance to fix that problem?
[08:51] <stringbling> Madpilot, it took me so long to get this laptop working satisfactorly, i think i'm just gonna stick with breezy...if i can get away with it.
[08:51] <gnu2it2> anyone running on a AMD Turion 64 laptop ?
[08:51] <Flannel> DarkLegacy: um, there is no CD2.  You sure you burned a Dapper CD?
[08:51] <klormexor> rpedro_: see i get an error once again, see when I install thru synaptic it downloads some installer, then asks to install to /home/Desktop/Docs/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin  and I say yes but there's no file there. Where's this file in?
[08:51] <ghettosmurf69> I dont know how to use the c? what is the nautils command?
[08:51] <DarkLegacy> I'm positive Flannel
[08:51] <DarkLegacy> ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[08:51] <majd> you guys know where i can find some radio stations to listen to through rhythmbox? i can't find any through google
[08:52] <Madpilot> stringbling, yeah, you've got a year of support left for Breezy. There might also be updates to the upgrade app, too.
[08:52] <DarkLegacy> My laptop has got 64MB of RAm
[08:52] <DarkLegacy> It can't run the regular desktop installation, that requires 192 MB
[08:52] <qbar> is there a way to install the breezy version of mplayer in dapper?
[08:52] <Goshawk> DarkLegacy: i installed from alternate for amd64, no cd2 for me
[08:52] <wheelswitch_away> DarkLegacy, get the alternate iso
[08:53] <Jeeves_> qbar: Why would you want that?
[08:53] <wraaa> can anyone recommend a good firewall for ubuntu?
[08:53] <DarkLegacy> Wheelswtcih
[08:53] <rpedro_> klormexor: one sec
[08:53] <DarkLegacy> I'm using the alternate ISO
[08:53] <Kr0ntab> majd, www.shoutcast.com
[08:53] <DarkLegacy> and it refuses to boot from CD
[08:53] <qbar> because the dapper version scrambles h.264 content
[08:53] <DarkLegacy> I'm really considering installing Win2k right now :\
[08:53] <stringbling> !alternate ISO
[08:53] <ubotu> stringbling: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:53] <ghettosmurf69> anyone know the nautils command?????
[08:53] <majd> dang i was just there
[08:53] <DarkLegacy> The reason I wanted Linux was because it was better, but so far it's given me nothing but problems
[08:54] <klormexor> rpedro_:  I think im finding where the files are In the installed files section of Synaptics.
[08:54] <LadyNikon> better != easy
[08:54] <stringbling> heheh, maybe alternate iso is your problem
[08:54] <wheelswitch_away> yeah, i am in windows now
[08:54] <DarkLegacy> I know LadyNikon
[08:54] <DarkLegacy> But when it takes 6 hours to get Firefox working
[08:54] <wheelswitch_away> you really need a dual boot system while you get used to linux, then when your comfortable
[08:54] <m_0_r_0_n> qbar, compile mplayer yourself https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MPlayerCVS
[08:54] <Flannel> DarkLegacy: what problems did you have with FF?
[08:54] <wheelswitch_away> install only linux