[12:39] <Ribena007> neville_ settings > configure > add account
[12:39] <neville__> I cant get kopete to stay loaded
[12:39] <Tautoa> Any error messages?
[12:39] <neville__> ok will try that , thank you
[12:40] <Ribena007> neville_ if the settings are in just try changing status to busy and it opens the wallet :P
[12:41] <neville__> I have 2 accounts already loaded , but they dont sem to want to appear anymore
[12:41] <jbbarnes> Does anyone else have a touchpad on their laptop? Mine is ALPS using the synaptic driver. The pointer is too slow and the KDE mouse speed setting doesn't affect it. Any ideas? Thanks.
[12:42] <X1398> isnt there a way to get my dvbt tv card from hauppauge to run with kubuntu, i mean an application
[12:42] <jbbarnes> I've tried some of the utilities like qsynaptic. They worked to turn off the double-tap feature, but had no speed or sensitivity settings.
[12:46] <X1398> !webcam | X1398
[12:48] <hak5fan> Hi. After some tweaking I can play multiple songs at once using alsaplayer, but I can't using anything else... How do I fix this....
[12:49] <XsteelWolf> anybody having problems with Knetwork Manager stuck at 28% while connecting?
[12:50] <jussi01> XsteelWolf: only when my network adapter was not installed properly. what kind of network card you have?
[12:51] <XsteelWolf> at exactly 28%?
[12:51] <XsteelWolf> im using intel 4965agn
[12:51] <X1398> how to set a device in camorama?
[12:52] <jussi01> XsteelWolf: yeah, exactly 28. I dont know about that card, but I would say at least some googling is in order.
[12:52] <X1398> !camorama
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camorama - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <XsteelWolf> !repeat | ubotu
[12:54] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:54] <XsteelWolf> lol
[12:55] <jussi01> !botabuse > XsteelWolf
[12:55] <jussi01> :)
[12:55] <XsteelWolf> lol
[12:55] <X1398> !botabuse | X1398
[12:57] <X1398> does anyone use a webcam from logitech in here?+
[12:57] <jussi01> !anyone > X1398
[12:58] <jussi01> :P
[12:58] <X1398> -.-'
[12:58] <X1398> !shutup damn bot | ubotu
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutup damn bot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <X1398> next question: my webcamsoftware camerama does display my pci tv card not my usb webcam
[01:00] <XsteelWolf> anybody having problems with Knetwork Manager stuck at 28% while connecting?
[01:00] <X1398> !repeat | XsteelWolf
[01:00] <ubotu> XsteelWolf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:02] <XsteelWolf> im reasking  since some had join
[01:02] <XsteelWolf> not consider repeat
[01:02] <XsteelWolf> !botabuse > X1398
[01:02] <X1398> !being a good bot, who wont spam arround. | ubotu
[01:07] <Tautoa> /NOTIFY
[01:07] <jussi01> XsteelWolf: if you are using gutsy, then you should be in +1
[01:09] <lacko> Slovensko?
[01:10] <lacko> Hi girls.
[01:11] <maverick>  "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready" sometimes i get this msg from the kernel when i try to connect to wireless net... and i can't connect until i restart..any ideas?
[01:11] <Ribena007> anyone ever managed to get a webcam to work in kubuntu? :P
[01:11] <prudvi> how to make a file owned by root.root
[01:11] <emilsedgh> !hi | lacko
[01:11] <ubotu> lacko: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:12] <NickPresta> prudvi, `chown root FILE` and `chgrp root FILE`
[01:12] <CheshireKot>
[01:13] <NickPresta> CheshireKot, which language?
[01:13] <prudvi> the file is in desktop nick how to locate it
[01:13] <CheshireKot> russian, chief!)))
[01:13] <NickPresta> prudvi, open up a Konsole and then do `cd Desktop`
[01:13] <NickPresta> !ru | CheshireKot
[01:13] <ubotu> CheshireKot:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:13] <prudvi> ok thank u nick
[01:14] <CheshireKot> I'm already both there and here
[01:14] <CheshireKot> )))
[01:14] <prudvi> nick i get no such file or directory when i use cd desktop
[01:14] <NickPresta> prudvi, you have to change the variable FILE with the actual filename
[01:15] <prudvi> ok
[01:15] <prudvi> i will try now and get back nick
[01:16] <Tautoa> Anyone know why the formatting toolbar keeps reappearing in Kopete?
[01:18] <prudvi> nick i tried but not able to get into desktop intself from terminal
[01:18] <prudvi> it says no such  file or directory
[01:19] <emilsedgh> Tautoa: if you find out why, tell me!
[01:19] <Tautoa> Emilsedgh: sure...
[01:19] <Tautoa> prudvi: what command are you typing?
[01:23] <prudvi> cd desktop
[01:23] <Tautoa> Try cd Desktop
[01:23] <prudvi> ok
[01:24] <prudvi> yea got it so folder names are also case sensitive right
[01:24] <Tautoa> Yeah, just about everything is :)
[01:25] <Tautoa> I"ve converted everything in /home to be lowercase, so I don't have to think about the case when I'm using the terminal
[01:27] <prudvi> oh i can alse do that,  will there be any problem
[01:27] <XsteelWolf> anyone using intel 4965agn?
[01:28] <Tautoa> Prudvi: I havn't found any, but I suppose if you have links to files in your /home, it could cause a problem
[01:30] <Tautoa> anyone know how to hide all these status messages?
[01:38] <vlt> Hello. Is there a list of recently used documents available somewhere? I can't find such an item in K menu.
[01:42] <Tautoa> vlt: there should be a hidden file in your home directory, called .recently-used
[01:44] <alef0> vlt: maybe add the "recent documents" applet to the panel
[01:54] <alesan> hi
[01:55] <alesan> I changed my video cards form ATI to Nvidia... now I finally made it to start X in VESA compatibility mode
[01:55] <alesan> but how can I install the nvidia drivers and let them run? I have a DVI monitor
[01:56] <tautoa> alesan: have you tried the Envy script?
[01:56] <SlimeyPete> !nvidia
[01:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:56] <SlimeyPete> !envy
[01:56] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[01:57] <tautoa> Ok... didn't know that when I used it :S
[01:57] <alesan> the restricted manager told me I do not need any restricted driver
[01:57] <alesan> while I have a nvidia 7300 in my system
[01:58] <tautoa> alesan: looks like doing it manually is the way to go then
[01:59] <alesan> yes
[02:09] <dragonlance> ciao
[02:09] <dragonlance> hi
[02:09] <dragonlance> i have a problem with kubuntu
[02:09] <tautoa> ok, what is it?
[02:09] <dragonlance> i have problem with monitor
[02:10] <dragonlance> i have a 7800GTX with 2 DVI
[02:10] <dragonlance> and Acer Al1751B and acer Al1951E
[02:11] <dragonlance> but the monitor are unknown
[02:11] <melkor> Wow just yesterday I was complaining about not being able to use the streaming radio because it was microsoft
[02:11] <dragonlance> the 17'' is Plug n play  and the 19 don't work
[02:11] <melkor> and today....I see the eu has ruled in our favor
[02:12] <dragonlance> i wanna do "extended Desktop" with 2 monitor
[02:12] <tautoa> dragonlance: I've tried to do it before and couldn't get it to work, although I was using a TV, so you might have more luck. Sorry!
[02:13] <dragonlance> :(
[02:13] <dragonlance> k
[02:13] <dragonlance> how can ADD monitor in list of hardware?
[02:14] <tautoa> If you have a look around UbuntuForums.org, i think theres a tutorial for dual monitors, you have to add some stuff to xorg.conf
[02:15] <dragonlance> the main problem is that 19'' is "unknown periferic"
[02:15] <dragonlance> i can't configure it
[02:15] <dragonlance> i have just installed Nvidia Drivers
[02:15] <mjrclark> if you use the proprietry drivers there is a nvidia tool to set up multiple monitors.
[02:16] <RurouniJones> melkor: And yet the BBC decides to use an MS only player for its content.
[02:16] <vlt> tautoa: Thank you
[02:16] <RurouniJones> 3 steps forwards, 2 back
[02:16] <vlt> alef0: How can I add this applet to all users's klippers?
[02:16] <tautoa> vlt: no worries :)
[02:16] <prospero91> I want to know why lspci -X doesn't work on edgy anymore
[02:17] <vlt> alef0: (The recently-used applet)
[02:17] <tautoa> anyone know how to get my USB stick to work? Its flashing and everything, but its not showing up when i type 'mount' into the terminal
[02:18] <melkor> tautoa do you have a dev when you put it in?
[02:18] <mjrclark> dragonlance: I use "nvidia-settings" to configure dual screens, it is in /usr/bin/ after installing the proprietry drivers.
[02:18] <tautoa> erm... I don't know :)
[02:19] <melkor> tautua ls /dev/ | grep sda
[02:19] <melkor> mine usually shows up as sda01
[02:20] <alef0> vlt: right click on the panel -> panel menu -> add applet to panel
[02:21] <tautoa> I get four; sda, sda1, sda2, and sda3. But sda1, 2, and 3 are my hard-drives... they show up as sd rather than hd :s
[02:21] <melkor> hou about sdb?
[02:22] <melkor> tautoa there are two things I have done in this situation, a) take it out and plug it back in, then kde finds it or
[02:22] <tautoa> oh... no, my hard drives are sda, sdb, and sdc, sorry. thats odd :s
[02:22] <vlt> alef0: That's a lot of right clicks ... I mean what file do I have to cp to other users's .kde dir?
[02:23] <melkor> tautoa b) I run a program calledu usbmodules
[02:23] <dragonlance> Tautoa.. what the different form TWINVIEW and Separate X screen?
[02:23] <wers> if I hide my kicker (still running but not visible), will it take less cpu usage?
[02:23] <tautoa> melkor: right, I'll have a look for that
[02:24] <tautoa> dragonlance: not sure, tbh :s
[02:24] <dragonlance> tbh?
[02:24] <melkor> to be honest
[02:24] <melkor> ?
[02:25] <dragonlance> my monitor now Work..
[02:25] <mjrclark> if you run things fullscreen in twinview it covers both screens, with seperate x screens it just covers one
[02:25] <dragonlance> ooook
[02:25] <dragonlance> :)
[02:25] <dragonlance> thanks
[02:25] <dragonlance> Xinerama?
[02:25] <dragonlance> what is?
[02:26] <mjrclark> it lets you move windows from one monitor to the other if using seperate x screens.
[02:26] <maverick> am sending this link if anyone recognizes the theme please tell me the name i'd like much to have it also the name of the system monitor at the top right of the screen and the kicker image http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=66046&file1=66046-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Onthel
[02:26] <ArmedKing> looks nice maverick
[02:26] <mjrclark> I think, they all work, I settled on seperate x screens without xinerama.
[02:27] <maverick> ArmedKing: really nice, but i don't know where to get or what's the name...
[02:27] <ArmedKing> maverick: If you do find it, Let me know ;-)
[02:27] <maverick> ok :D
[02:28] <maverick> i 've just the author a msg anyway
[02:28] <maverick> sent*
[02:28] <ArmedKing> kk Nice, let me know what happens :p
[02:28] <Gabriel_> hi guys ..
[02:29] <dragonlance> i restat
[02:29] <dragonlance> restart :) thanks
[02:31] <Gabriel_> today i wanted to log in my kubuntu 6.06 LTS.. but when i tried logging in through the graphic login screen, the xserver restarts itself and it looked like nothing happened
[02:31] <maverick> ArmedKing: do you know of any good system monitor ??
[02:31] <Gabriel_> if i type in a false password, the info about the fals password comes and the xserver doesnt restart ..
[02:32] <mjrclark> Gabriel , have you run out of disk space?
[02:32] <Gabriel_> hm .. i dont think so .. but it could be ..
[02:32] <Gabriel_> i dont know, what my brother did on the windows site of the computer
[02:33] <Gabriel_> hm .. what can i do then ..
[02:34] <Gabriel_> i asked my brother .. he installed a game on a full drive :( ..
[02:35] <Gabriel_> do you have any idea mjrclark ... its very important
[02:35] <mjrclark> go in through the command line and free some space/use a bootable disk to do that
[02:35] <Gabriel_> i tried to start ubuntu 7.04 .. but every time it comes to an error ...
[02:36] <Gabriel_> btw: in windows it looks like there would be a graphic problem ..
[02:36] <Gabriel_> windows doesnt even show a login screen
[02:38] <mjrclark> oh, maybe it is a graphics problem then rather than no disk space- but no idea what you could have changed to wipe out both OSs.
[02:38] <Gabriel_> i think its a windows problem .. but windows is fully distroyed
[02:38] <ArmedKing> Well aint that a good thing?
[02:38] <ArmedKing> Just kidding dude haha
[02:39] <mjrclark> could you be more specific- ie you have removed windows or it is destroyed because it will not work at all, even in safe mode?
[02:39] <Gabriel_> another problem: how can i acess a harddrive from the command line ?
[02:39] <Gabriel_> i want to copy some documents from the destroyed windows partition to a usb drive
[02:39] <ArmedKing> Is it mounted?
[02:40] <Gabriel_> hm .. i dont think so
[02:40] <Gabriel_> so .. no
[02:40] <Gabriel_> i have a tower with 2 drives .. 1 linux 1windows
[02:41] <tautoa> do you know the what the hard drive is called? i.e. /dev/???
[02:42] <Gabriel_> i forgot it .. it actually istn my main computer
[02:42] <eljefe> can I "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from within an XTerm?  I cannot read the screen when I go to a different TTY.
[02:43] <tautoa> Gabriel_: do you have the partition editor installed? You can find it from there
[02:43] <tautoa> no, wait, if you can't login then that won't work... ignore me :S
[02:43] <Gabriel_> ^^
[02:43] <Gabriel_> i m now in recovery mode with root acesses
[02:43] <main2> :')
[02:44] <Gabriel_> so im logged in .. but dont have a Xserver
[02:44] <mjrclark> have a couple of guesses then; you need to make a folder then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /folder youmade"
[02:44] <Gabriel_> k
[02:44] <mjrclark> replacing hda1 with hda2 if it mounts the wrong thing, then try hdb1 , hdb2 and you should get it.
[02:45] <Gabriel_> k
[02:46] <Gabriel_> omg .. can you pls give me the command for creating folders ??
[02:46] <ArmedKing> or sda or sdb
[02:46] <Gabriel_> (i never used the command line ...)
[02:46] <mjrclark> mkdir
[02:46] <ArmedKing> Theres a first for everything ;-)
[02:47] <Gabriel_> ^^
[02:47] <kumamoto> Gabriel_: for more options use man mkdir
[02:47] <Gabriel_> k
[02:47] <kumamoto> that is if you feel like being creative
[02:47] <Gabriel_> hehe ..
[02:48] <mjrclark> and "df -h" to see if your disks are full
[02:48] <Gabriel_> output: specify the filesystem type
[02:48] <Gabriel_> windows is normaly ?
[02:48] <mjrclark> fat32
[02:48] <mjrclark> or ntfs
[02:48] <ArmedKing> wel hope you not running ntfs on there
[02:49] <Gabriel_> where do i write fat32 ? -- with -fat32 ?
[02:49] <ArmedKing> mnt -t vfat correct me if i wrong
[02:50] <Gabriel_> when i typed -fat32 i just got a new prompt .. your command: unknown filesystem ..
[02:51] <ArmedKing> try mnt -t vfat /dev/Here your partition
[02:52] <Gabriel_> ok
[02:52] <cloakable> How well is Kubuntu working with LTSP?
[02:52] <Gabriel_> here is a nice output ^^
[02:53] <Gabriel_> a man
[02:53] <Gabriel_> ual
[02:54] <Gabriel_> mnt not found .. with mount i get a little manual
[02:54] <melkor> is anybody here using kde4?
[02:56] <jarno_> kukas tll on guru ja osaa neuvoa juuri ensimmist kertaa kubuntun asentanutta
[02:57] <mjrclark> mkdir windows ; mount -t vfat /dev/hda windows
[02:57] <mjrclark> if that just throws out a manual rather than a more specific error message I am stumped.
[02:57] <melkor> Im guessing only root can do that
[02:58] <Jucato> !fi | jarno_
[02:58] <ubotu> jarno_: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[02:58] <ArmedKing> A Karamba Them with 4 cpu Core's is just not nice at all :p haha
[02:58] <ArmedKing> Theme*
[02:59] <Gabriel_> ha
[02:59] <Gabriel_> now ... mount: no medium found ..
[03:00] <Gabriel_> now i test hda1, hda 2, and ?
[03:00] <Gabriel_> k .. on sda: already mounted or windows busy
[03:00] <ArmedKing> sda sdb
[03:01] <JuanP> how i change my hostname?
[03:01] <ArmedKing> just type mount to c whats mounted allready
[03:02] <Gabriel_> haha .. last line: /dev/hda1/folder on /home....../windoof type 32
[03:02] <Gabriel_> did my noobcommand somehow work ?
[03:02] <ArmedKing> Then it allready mounted right
[03:02] <JuanP> how i change my hostname?
[03:02] <Gabriel_> k
[03:03] <Gabriel_> how can i get through the windows files ?
[03:03] <ArmedKing> JuanP trie running "hostname hereyournewhostname"
[03:03] <genii> JuanP: Change whats in /etc/hostname
[03:04] <genii> JuanP: You'll need admin privelege, so something like sudo nano /etc/hostname from commandline, kdesu kate /etc/hostname from kde
[03:04] <JuanP> thanks ArmedKing, genii
[03:05] <Gabriel_> how can i access my windows files now, when i mounted the drive ?
[03:05] <ArmedKing> JuanP No problenm
[03:05] <mjrclark> cd to change directories, cp to copy things (cp source destination)
[03:05] <Gabriel_> hm ... where do i find the drive ^^
[03:06] <mjrclark> the /home....../windoof bit is where it is so "cd /home....../windoof" with the right bit instead of dots
[03:06] <Gabriel_> nothing :(
[03:07] <Gabriel_> ls .. nothing but a new prompt
[03:09] <nmongher> Ho un problema con un HD, qualcuno mi sa aiutare??
[03:10] <Jucato> !it | nmongher
[03:10] <ubotu> nmongher: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:10] <nmongher> ops, scusate
[03:11] <Gabriel_> ... again im running out of time with no success ....
[03:11] <Gabriel_> hm .. but thank you for you help ;-) now i can mount it ^^
[03:11] <Gabriel_> ciao
[03:14] <tinin> I get a pop up window in the desktop all the time that says: It was not possible to find the mime type application/octet-stream. How could I fix this, please?
[03:27] <genii> tinin: Make sure the file /etc/mime.types contains a line: application/octet-stream                        bin
[03:30] <tinin> thanx, aI'll see now genii
[03:44] <fulat2k> hi folks, is there a way i can add more GTK styles to besides Qt and Raleigh?
[03:55] <Aattila> Hi! Do somebody know a desktop clock can be used in always on top mode?
[03:55] <ubuntu> Hello , i need some help with kubuntu. i installed it (i succed just with "safe graphic  mode") and i installed beyrl on in and it's now show a white screen...(btw i got 965 chipset)
[03:58] <fulat2k> hi folks, is kde4b2 still broken?  i got kdebase-workspace installed but when i start a new kde4 session, the desktop loads but lots of "this object cannot be loaded".  and it's totally unusable
[03:58] <hydrogen> fulat2k: yes
[03:58] <hydrogen> its better in current svn
[03:58] <hydrogen> but even there its still not that great
[03:59] <ivanbili> hi, my video card driver got corrupted
[03:59] <hydrogen> the workspace is in really bad shape
[03:59] <hydrogen> games and apps are working nicely though
[03:59] <ivanbili> a friend told me to use my old xorg.conf
[03:59] <ivanbili> how do I do that?
[03:59] <fulat2k> hydrogen: darn.
[03:59] <fulat2k> hydrogen: i'm too lazy to build from svn... or is there a simpler way?
[04:00] <hydrogen> fulat2k: there are daily livecd's from the opensuse folks
[04:00] <hydrogen> that you could test it on
[04:00] <hydrogen> or regular livecd's, not daily
[04:00] <fulat2k> hydrogen: what about on kubuntu feisty?
[04:00] <hydrogen> nah
[04:00] <hydrogen> but if you use a livecd to test
[04:00] <hydrogen> then it leaves your partition alone :)
[04:00] <fulat2k> ic. oh well.  wil wait till 4.0 hits the street then
[04:00] <Tomerz> Hello , i need some help with kubuntu. i installed it (i succed just with "safe graphic  mode") and i installed beyrl on in and it's now show a white screen...(btw i got 965 chipset) (sry about double message)
[04:01] <hydrogen> theres a beta3 coming in october
[04:01] <hydrogen> that should (hopefully) be more usable
[04:01] <fulat2k> hope so too
[04:01] <hydrogen> but the task launcher/systray/kicker replacement is in woefully bad shape
[04:02] <fulat2k> ah.
[04:03] <fulat2k> well..
[04:03] <fulat2k> :)
[04:07] <Tomerz> :< no one can help me?? :<
[04:08] <genii> Tomerz: Perhaps ask in #ubuntu-effects
[04:08] <slackern> Tomerz, sorry but keep checking a little now and then, might come someone able to help
[04:10] <ivanbili> can I somehow access my mp3 files on my windows partition?
[04:10] <JuanP> yes you can ivanbili
[04:10] <Tomerz> oh i need it to
[04:11] <Tomerz> there is no way to delete beyrl with the disc or something?
[04:11] <JuanP> first install libxine-extracodecs ivanbili
[04:12] <ivanbili> I am reading this now https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[04:14] <NightBird> ivanbili: I'm guessing the partition is ntfs?
[04:15] <NightBird> !ntfs | ivanbili
[04:15] <ubotu> ivanbili: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:15] <feimao> !mkfs
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <NightBird> well bah, you're already looking at the right thing
[04:16] <ibilic> what is a .vmx file? it looks like a batch file
[04:16] <ibilic> how do I run it? just navigate to it in console and type its name?
[04:17] <llutz> ibilic: vmware-image?
[04:17] <The_Machine> vmx is vmware
[04:17] <The_Machine> google.com :P
[04:17] <ibilic> thanks :)
[04:18] <Tomerz> k i will reinstall kubuntu
[04:18] <Tomerz> but i want beyrl :<
[04:18] <Tomerz> i installed it from the add/remove programs it is ok?
[04:18] <zipper> !wiget
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <zipper> !wigets
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wigets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, that's fine
[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's no reason you should have to reinstall kubuntu
[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a windows solution, not a linux one.
[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> #ubunut-effects will be able to help with the "white screen of death"
[04:19] <The_Machine> Tomerz - you will learn more about linux if you can figure out how to overcome your problems
[04:19] <The_Machine> without reinstalling
[04:19] <The_Machine> don't go the Windows route when dealing with problems
[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> 90% of the time, all that means is that your colour depth is set wrong.
[04:19] <The_Machine> format/reinstall is a crap solution to computer problems.
[04:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> and "reboot" is not a step in the troubleshooting flowchart.
[04:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's something you do when you update your kernel
[04:20] <The_Machine> Daisuke-Ido, it's a hard habit to break
[04:20] <The_Machine> reboot, even
[04:20] <Tomerz> so... what can i do... the isnt answer me... i thought maybe to boot from cd and use some fix mode...
[04:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> The_Machine: oh i know
[04:20] <The_Machine> Tomerz, what' the issue?
[04:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: hit ctrl-alt-f1
[04:21] <Tomerz> what it's doing?
[04:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> drops you to a vt (virtual terminal
[04:21] <The_Machine> heh.
[04:22] <The_Machine> you're going to make him stuck unless you also tell him how to get back, man
[04:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh!
[04:22] <NightBird> >_>
[04:22] <Tomerz> and in this terminal what can i do?
[04:23] <NightBird> Tomerz: make changes to the system, and get it working if the gui isn't working
[04:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> in short, everything
[04:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's the beauty of linux
[04:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> the learning curve is a bit higher, but there's *nothing* you can't do in a terminal
[04:23] <NightBird> Tomerz: when you run beryl, all you see is white?
[04:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, for right now we'll stick to the normal issues
[04:24] <Tomerz> i dont know noting on linux... this terminal is in text mode no? i dunno text commands
[04:24] <Tomerz> yes and when i do ctrl+tab i see some folder in square
[04:24] <NightBird> ok
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: if you use linux for a little while, you'll pick up a few, guaranteed
[04:24] <NightBird> Tomerz: are you running xgl?
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: colour depth
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> ?
[04:24] <NightBird> Daisuke_Laptop: or an xgl version incompatability
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, possibly
[04:25] <Tomerz> no..
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: ati, nvidia, or intel graphics?
[04:25] <NightBird> intel
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> k, then we're looking at aiglx
[04:25] <NightBird> ok
[04:25] <NightBird> soon we won't have to worry about that
[04:25] <Tomerz> i installed kubuntu and right after this beyrl from the add/remove programs
[04:25] <NightBird> finally
[04:25] <jthomas> hey, I have an NVidia card which I want to install and use for a new 1680x1050-resolution monitor.  When I have the card in I cannot boot into KDE, but I don't think that I can get the correct install of the NVidia driver and all its setup without having the card in... I want to use Envy to set it up, but i cannot use it without X running
[04:25] <NightBird> >_>
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, isn't it awesome :)
[04:25] <Tomerz> nvidia 7300gt
[04:25] <ibilic> can somebody explain something to me: if I am an administrator of my own machine, why do I sometimes have to type the administrative password all the time or use sudo?
[04:26] <ibilic> I am assuming it's a safety feature
[04:26] <NightBird> Tomerz: you have an nvidia card?
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> you aren't the administrator, that's why
[04:26] <ibilic> but I dont' see the point
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: intel
[04:26] <Tomerz> Yes
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> by default, you're a limited user, that's by design :)
[04:26] <NightBird> ibilic: it's a safety feature so that you know you're about to do something potentially painful
[04:26] <jthomas> ibilic: yes, since Unix/Linux is made for multiusers.  Also, its not a good idea to always run as the Administrator, so they keep the acounts seperate.
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> and a big part of the reason linux doesn't have the gaping security holes that OTHER os does
[04:28] <Tomerz> meybe its because i didnt installed xserver or somthing?:O
[04:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: in the terminal, type: glxinfo | grep direct
[04:28] <NightBird> Tomerz: uh... if you have any gui, you have an x server
[04:28] <jthomas> hey, I have an NVidia card which I want to install and use for a new 1680x1050-resolution monitor.  When I have the card in I cannot boot into KDE, but I don't think that I can get the correct install of the NVidia driver and all its setup without having the card in... I want to use Envy to set it up, but i cannot use it without X running
[04:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> (what this does is outputs the results of glxinfo to grep, which searches for "direct" and gives you the line(s) it finds)
[04:28] <Tomerz> thats will fix? because i need to reboot and i will not be here
[04:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> jthomas: don't use envy as i ALREADY said
[04:29] <Tomerz> and how to open the terminal? i forgot?
[04:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: no, you don't want to reboot yet :)
[04:29] <The_Machine> hehe
[04:29] <jthomas> sorry I missed that... whatever, the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't do it.
[04:29] <Tomerz> i am in the livecd... can it help?
[04:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> ctrl-alt-f1 (ctrl-alt-f7 will bring you back)
[04:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> jthomas: well no, it wouldn't, that doesn't install drivers
[04:29] <NightBird> Tomerz: this is something to do in the actual install... are you chatting on the live CD, or on a seperate machine?
[04:29] <genii> hopefully just alt-f7 will do it
[04:30] <Tomerz> live cd
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> genii: yeah, i just fallback to using the same key combination
[04:30] <NightBird> hm...
[04:30] <jthomas> Daisuke_Laptop: how would I go about it then?  As I said, I cannot see X with the card installed.  The driver is installed via apt-get; but xorg isn't able to use it
[04:30] <genii> Daisuke_Laptop: Ah, OK :0
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> what card?
[04:30] <jthomas> NVidia 440 or something, its kinda old
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> and what driver package did you install?
[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> you need nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:31] <jthomas> NVG11AM is the lable but it shows differently at PC boot up time
[04:31] <jthomas> nvidia-glx
[04:31] <jthomas> aah
[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's the problem :D
[04:31] <jthomas> cool ok thank yo
[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're welcome
[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> one down, one to go
[04:31] <jthomas> all right, i'll give it a shot in a few minutes.  thanks!
[04:31] <NightBird> :P
[04:32] <ibilic> ok, I want to run vmware to run a virtual windows machine, but it says in the log file that it has insufficient permission to acces the file
[04:32] <ibilic> Insufficient permissions to access the file (115) (0x3)
[04:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: can you log into kde failsafe (if there is one) or gnome failsafe?
[04:33] <Tomerz> what is failsafe?
[04:33] <ibilic> I tried to type "sudo vmware" and it didn't work either
[04:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: on the login screen
[04:33] <ibilic> the file that it can't access is on my Desktop
[04:33] <Tomerz> i cant just write a command that bring in kde?
[04:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> errr...  on the login screen, there's a 'sessions' button
[04:33] <Tomerz> i can see the login screen
[04:33] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Laptop: Failsafe usually stops short of the GUI.
[04:33] <Tomerz> and also the loading
[04:34] <NightBird> Tomerz: yes, the problem is with beryl tries to start up
[04:34] <NightBird> right?
[04:34] <NightBird> thats when everything goes white?
[04:34] <Tomerz> yes
[04:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> jhutchins: yeah, as long as we can get to his xorg.conf
[04:34] <NightBird> Daisuke_Laptop: we probably can now
[04:34] <Tomerz> but when i do ctrl + tab  i can see some folder in some square
[04:34] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Laptop: Well, just that makes KDE/gnome moot.
[04:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: cdroot?
[04:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> chroot*
[04:35] <NightBird> Daisuke_Laptop: no, I'm saying the live cd may mount the harddrive as writable
[04:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> jhutchins: i've never used it, all i know is on here it says failsafe gnome -_-
[04:35] <Tomerz> iam doing*
[04:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: that would be nice
[04:35] <NightBird> we may have access to his xorg right now
[04:35] <NightBird> Tomerz: can you open /mount in the file browser?
[04:35] <NightBird> er...
[04:36] <NightBird> /media
[04:36] <NightBird> sorry
[04:36] <Tomerz> here? yes
[04:36] <NightBird> yes
[04:36] <NightBird> what do you see there?
[04:36] <Tomerz> empty
[04:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: chances are it won't be mounted by default
[04:36] <NightBird> hm...
[04:37] <NightBird> well doh
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> likely /dev/sda1 or /dev/hda1
[04:37] <NightBird> ok... I need to get going to get ready for work...
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> k
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: hit alt-f2 and type konsole
[04:37] <Tomerz> :<
[04:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: i'm still around to get you up and running :D
[04:38] <ibilic> ok, I needed to add myself to the "disk" group... but now when I run vmware, it just loads and then nothing happens (it either terminates or blocks somewhere)
[04:38] <Tomerz> thanks :D
[04:38] <Tomerz> it opens some terminal
[04:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a good thing
[04:38] <ibilic> there is this process "vmware-serverd" but I am not sure what it does
[04:38] <ibilic> or whether it's related
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> ibilic: it's the vmware server daemon.
[04:39] <ibilic> should I close it?
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> nope
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> but i would recommend using virtualbox
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: cd /media
[04:39] <ibilic> you see, I want to use my EXISTING windows partition
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> changes your directory to media
[04:40] <Tomerz> i know :D
[04:40] <Tomerz> i also know su
[04:40] <ibilic> and I found this link: http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[04:40] <Tomerz> and cd ..
[04:40] <Tomerz> mkdir
[04:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: then you have a head start :)  anywho
[04:40] <Tomerz> :P
[04:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo mkdir disk
[04:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> disk is a fine name for now, it's only a temporary mount :)
[04:41] <pemakai2> i can't install ubuntu studio, help me please
[04:41] <Tomerz> no problem... you are the boss
[04:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, i get to be tony danza :D
[04:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> alright, next step: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk
[04:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> hopefully it won't throw any errors about filesystem, probably will though :\
[04:43] <pemakai2> bye
[04:43] <Tomerz> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[04:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> xp_killer upgraded :\
[04:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: well alright then, that's no problem
[04:44] <Tomerz> :D
[04:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[04:45] <Tomerz> done
[04:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd disk
[04:45] <ibilic> ok, what is a .MULTILOCK file?
[04:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> (you may have to sudo -s for this next part)
[04:45] <ibilic> and when does it get created?
[04:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> no idea, ibilic
[04:46] <Tomerz> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ cd disk
[04:46] <Tomerz> bash: cd: disk: Permission denied
[04:46] <Tomerz> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ sudo -s cd disk
[04:46] <Tomerz> /bin/bash: cd: No such file or directory
[04:46] <Tomerz> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$
[04:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo -s
[04:47] <Tomerz> oh
[04:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> and try to use pastebin for multiline pastes :)
[04:47] <Tomerz> su is not the same?:O
[04:47] <Tomerz> ok
[04:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo -s is safer
[04:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> it will drop you to root for that session
[04:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> same thing, more or less...
[04:49] <newsense> whts the best way to install sound themes, icon sets, etc and have them available to all users ?
[04:50] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get superkaramba to be sticky on viewports in compiz?
[04:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: still with us?
[04:51] <Tomerz> yea :D
[04:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> get into the directory, i hope?
[04:52] <Tomerz> yea
[04:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> good
[04:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is where it gets FUN!
[04:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo pico /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:55] <Tomerz> ok... its now opend a new text file
[04:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's nothing in it?
[04:55] <Tomerz> nop
[04:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> ctrl-x
[04:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is odd
[04:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, er...
[04:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> type ls in the terminal and give me an idea of the output
[04:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> you should see things like opt/ and bin/, etc/
[04:58] <ibilic> while in a man file, how do I search it?
[04:59] <Tomerz> mmm i think it shows me the files on my window partition... c and d
[04:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> ahhhhh
[04:59] <rickey> i am new to amaoke play and kubuntu7.02 i can play cd,s in it ,but i cant get my radio stream,s
[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: install libxine-extracodecs in adept
[05:00] <emilsedgh> ibilic: from console? I dunno, but you should be able to search in via Konqueror
[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: umount /media/disk
[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> we have the wrong drive mounted :)
[05:00] <Tomerz> umount: /media/disk: device is busy
[05:00] <Tomerz> umount: /media/disk: device is busy
[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd /
[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> then try again
[05:01] <Tomerz> done :D
[05:01] <rickey> thank you  Daisuke
[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: you're welcome
[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, do you know what partition you installed kubuntu on
[05:02] <Tomerz> i had c d e i think
[05:02] <Tomerz> and on e
[05:02] <Tomerz> but then the kubuntu changed it...
[05:02] <Tomerz> to swap and /
[05:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> drive letters are a windows construct
[05:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> desktop system
[05:03] <Tomerz> ohhh
[05:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> how many hard drives total?
[05:03] <Tomerz> 5
[05:03] <Tomerz> i think
[05:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> sda5
[05:03] <Tomerz> it's on 5
[05:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, let's try that :)
[05:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> mount /dev/sda5 /media/disk
[05:04] <Tomerz> ccc
[05:04] <Tomerz> /dev/sda5 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[05:04] <Tomerz> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:04] <NightBird> sda4
[05:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> well then we're narrowing it down :)
[05:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> possibly sda4, but logical partitions start at 5
[05:05] <Tomerz> mount: special device /dev/sda4 does not exist
[05:05] <Tomerz> 6 :)
[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> 6 got it?
[05:05] <Tomerz> yea...
[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> alrighty then
[05:05] <NightBird> sweet
[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo pico /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:06] <Tomerz> it's gave me another line without warnings
[05:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> there *should* be something in this one :)
[05:06] <Tomerz> now the file is full
[05:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> excellent
[05:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> scroll down until you see: Section "Screen"
[05:08] <Tomerz> i found it...
[05:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> what's the value for DefaultDepth
[05:09] <Tomerz> 24
[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's right :\
[05:09] <genii> np guys
[05:09] <Tomerz> i think its because my 965 chipset... it's sucks!
[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah ha
[05:09] <genii> <-- Always has a pot of coffee on for the hard workers
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> you have the 965?
[05:10] <ScorpKing> lol
[05:10] <Tomerz> i tried to install freebsd and i had a problems with xserver
[05:10] <Tomerz> yes :<
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> i love the 965, though it takes a teensy bit of work :)
[05:10] <Tomerz> i installed kubuntu in safe graphics mode
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> is this a dell laptop
[05:10] <NightBird> hm.... Tomerz: I can tell you an option that you can set that will cause beryl to not run, which will prevent the white boxes
[05:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: for the moment, i'd say that's a good idea, until we can get his driver issue worked out
[05:11] <NightBird> ok
[05:11] <NightBird> Tomerz: in the xorg.conf file:  Find the ServerLayout section.  it should be near the tob
[05:11] <rickey> Daisuke i got a proublem i dont have that listing i have thing close ,but not that excate file
[05:11] <NightBird> er... top
[05:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[05:12] <Tomerz> it's near the bottom
[05:12] <NightBird> oh ok
[05:12] <NightBird> either way
[05:12] <poison--> mornin
[05:13] <NightBird> at the end of that section, add the following:  Option  "AIGLX" "false"
[05:13] <NightBird> that will disable aiglx acceleration, which beryl is relying on.  it will detect that it's been disabled, and basically quit
[05:13] <NightBird> so you will be left with the regular kde desktop
[05:13] <Tomerz> false with ""?
[05:13] <NightBird> yes
[05:14] <Tomerz> yey :D
[05:14] <NightBird> all of the quotes I put in there should be in place
[05:14] <Tomerz> how can i ssave the file?
[05:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: ctrl+o
[05:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> and just hit enter
[05:15] <rickey> where do i check for that
[05:15] <NightBird> ?
[05:15] <JuJuBee> Im getting an error "Could not start kstartupconfig, Check your installation."  All I did was mve my home directory to /local_home so i can mount /home from my server.  I edited the suer in user management to change it's Home Directory.  Now this.
[05:16] <JuJuBee> s/suer/user
[05:16] <rickey> daisuke where do i check to see if i have enabled them
[05:16] <Tomerz> then ctrl X?
[05:16] <Tomerz> and to reboot?:O
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, since kstartupconfig should be in /home/user, there's an issue
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: that's correct
[05:16] <NightBird> Tomerz: yes, reboot into the local install
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: Adept > Manage Repositories
[05:16] <JuJuBee> Why, wouldnt that be in /local_home/user now?
[05:16] <Tomerz> btw how to close the terminal?
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> JuJuBee: it's not looking there, though
[05:16] <NightBird> Tomerz: type exit
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: exit
[05:16] <Tomerz> local install? not to the regular kubuntu
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[05:16] <JuJuBee> How do I tell it to?
[05:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: yes, to regular kubuntu :)
[05:17] <NightBird> Tomerz: don't boot the live cd
[05:17] <JuJuBee> I modifed the user to change the home dir.
[05:17] <NightBird> just regular kubuntu
[05:17] <Tomerz> ok :D
[05:17] <Tomerz> thanks alot!!!! both of you!!!! :)
[05:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> JuJuBee: i wouldn't recommend doing that, admittedly it's because i've never attempted it
[05:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> so i have no idea how to go about that
[05:18] <JuJuBee> How should I deal with a machine that uses a local usera account (admin) and all others are on server (nis/nfs..)?  Should I mount the server on /home2 or something like that?
[05:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> you should mount users individually, in /home/username
[05:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would think
[05:19] <rickey> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[05:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[05:19] <rickey> help
[05:20] <rickey> nothing elas is open that i know of
[05:20] <JuJuBee> I am mounting /home from server via fstab
[05:20] <JuJuBee> That way whichever user logs in, they have their ~/
[05:20] <NightBird> !adept-crash
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <NightBird> bah
[05:20] <NightBird> !adept-fix
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: close adept and anything else that's open :)
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> WAIT
[05:20] <NightBird> !fix-adept
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <NightBird> right
[05:20] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix
[05:20] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> anything else using apt that's open
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's it :)
[05:21] <NightBird> ok then
[05:21] <NightBird> I'm out
[05:21] <NightBird> (for real this time)
[05:25] <ubuntu> why does gusty have by default hp fax and hp fax book?
[05:26] <rickey> ok i am back it is open  thanks guy,s
[05:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> because it went to hplip
[05:27] <ubuntu> ubuntu whent to hplip?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> yes
[05:27] <ubuntu> for what reason?   cups wasn't cutting it?
[05:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> you'd have to ask the dev team about that one
[05:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> gnomefreak?  got any insight to that one?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: holip is not the same as cups but in gutsy iirc we are not using cups as default anymmore its using system-config-printer
[05:29] <gnomefreak> hplip
[05:30] <gnomefreak> iirc that is installed to better support hp printing
[05:30] <gnomefreak> if you dont have hp printer it is installed but i dont think you ever have to touch it just use cups or s-c-p as you normally would
[05:30] <rickey> Daisuke everything in manage repositories is chhecked and all i have in my list is libine_perl and libine ruby
[05:30] <ubuntu> but why install it by default?
[05:31] <ubuntu> so does gusty "detect" hp printers, or does it just install it and say ok
[05:31] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: to better support h printer iirc. why are you asking ubuntu and gutsy questions in  a kubuntu channel? gutsy see #ubuntu+1
[05:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: close out adept and open a terminal (this is less painful that way)
[05:32] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: i think it is there to try and detect hp printers but i cant say for sure my hp isnt hooked up atm
[05:32] <Tomerz> No :<
[05:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> no?
[05:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> back on the live cd, i take it?
[05:32] <ubuntu> gnomefreak: well, because it's a kubuntu gusty live cd
[05:32] <ubuntu> and i am previewing it
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: its not installed on kubuntu be default is it?
[05:33] <Tomerz> yes
[05:33] <gnomefreak> s/be/by
[05:33] <gnomefreak> oh goodie
[05:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> ubuntu - this still isn't the channel for gutsy issues :\
[05:33] <BluesKaj> perhaps HP has provided the drivers to the ubuntu dev team to help users with HP printers an easy setup
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: join #ubuntu+1
[05:33] <ubuntu> it bothers me a bit that there are propietry software installed from the get go.  is hplip open source.  btw, hplip is in fiesty as well
[05:33] <ubuntu> gnomefreak: yes, it is
[05:34] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: what propietry software is installed by default?
[05:34] <ubuntu> i'll find a gusty channel and see how gusty they are
[05:34] <ubuntu> er, gutsy
[05:34] <dhq> i am using a epson lx 800 dot matrix 9-pin printer i am using generic drivers but the fonts are not clear
[05:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> #ubuntu+1 *is* the gutsy channel.
[05:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're using a dot matrix printer and you're complaining the fonts aren't clear?
[05:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm sorry, i gotta at least chuckle at that :)
[05:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: by default there is no non free apps installed
[05:35] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta mow the lawn
[05:35] <gnomefreak> or drivers for that matter
[05:35] <ubuntu> hrm, konverstation doesn't wrap the topic
[05:35] <ubuntu> *shrugs*
[05:35] <dhq> Daisuke_Laptop, in windows it works well
[05:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> dhq: yeah, but it's just the concept of the thing :)
[05:36] <dhq> Daisuke_Laptop, i nrrd it to work in linux
[05:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm sure there's a way to fix it.  i have no idea what it would be, but i'm sure it's there :)
[05:36] <ubuntu> gnomefreak: non free and oss?  or free but closed source?
[05:36] <BluesKaj> I still had to run the cups printer wizard for our HP network printer , there was no auto-detection after installing samba either
[05:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: you stated there was propietry software installed by default
[05:36] <dhq> Daisuke_Laptop, well there should be a way ... because in windows it works
[05:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: there is not any
[05:36] <Tomerz> i back :O
[05:37] <Tomerz> i think the best will be to reinstall
[05:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> i hate to recommend that though :\
[05:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, if it works for you, you're free to do so :)
[05:38] <Tomerz> lol D:
[05:38] <Tomerz> but xgl will not work to me?
[05:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> you don't want to use xgl at all
[05:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> xgl is eeeevil
[05:39] <gnomefreak> you damn sure dont want to reinstall because xgl doesnt work
[05:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> (especially since you're using a 965)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> thats just insane
[05:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> gnomefreak: WSOD in beryl
[05:40] <Tomerz> but i want something like that
[05:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: then you want aiglx
[05:40] <Tomerz> maybe i need to install older version of xserver?
[05:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> noooo
[05:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> if it's trying to start xgl, couldn't he just remove that from the session entry?
[05:41] <Tomerz> ok it's looks nice
[05:42] <Tomerz> i install it as same as beyrl?:O
[05:42] <ibilic> I think I mounted a Windows disk, but now I can't access it
[05:42] <ibilic> it says that I don't have enought permission
[05:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> beryl will run on top of xgl or aiglx
[05:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, xgl is being used less and less because of compatibility issues
[05:42] <ibilic> on another note, when I run "su" to try to access it, it says that the authorization fails
[05:44] <Zevs> selam
[05:44] <Zevs> sss
[05:44] <cloakable> ibilic: That's because root account is disabled in Kubuntu
[05:44] <Tomerz> so i dont understand... i need to install it now and not to reinstall?:O
[05:45] <Tomerz> or in the new kubuntu to install  aiglx?
[05:47] <ibilic> cloakable: ok, so how do I enable it?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> Tomerz: if you have feisty aiglx is there already
[05:47] <cloakable> ibilic: sudo su
[05:47] <cloakable> ibilic: enter your password
[05:47] <ibilic> thanks!
[05:47] <y8ding> hi...i have dapper and they don't support broadcom chipsets and I can't get it to work =_=
[05:47] <y8ding> wireless i mean
[05:48] <Tomerz> and how do i turn it on??:O
[05:49] <prospero91> test
[05:49] <ubuntu> y8ding: you need bcm-fwcutter
[05:49] <prospero91> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV5RCJUS_eo beryl on a 50 inch smart board right there
[05:50] <ubuntu> y8ding: lspci, and post your broadcom line
[05:52] <aguitel> anyone work with ati radeon  IGP 330M/340M/350M ?
[05:52] <poison--> whats dat?
[05:52] <poison--> laptop gfx?
[05:52] <Tomerz> Daisuke_Laptop : so to reinstall kubuntu?
[05:52] <aguitel> video card
[05:52] <aguitel> in laptop
[05:53] <poison--> and whats the problem aguitel?
[05:53] <y8ding> =_= sadly i uhm...am not using my home computer
[05:53] <y8ding> i remember unknown device
[05:53] <y8ding> dev 01
[05:54] <aguitel> poison, poor screen resolution
[05:54] <poison--> y8ding, use ndiswrapper
[05:54] <poison--> did u tested Envy?
[05:54] <lewix> hi
[05:54] <lewix> so anyone know what should I do about my screen saver. the screen went dark after a while as if i'm hibernating. Also, I would like the screensaver to change automatically after a few seconds
[05:54] <aguitel> poison, yes but dont work
[05:54] <y8ding> i did try using ndiswrapper and failed miserably
[05:55] <poison--> aguitel, justa s ec
[05:55] <poison--> y8ding, i have a how 2 here, just a sec
[05:55] <aguitel> ok poison
[05:56] <poison--> aguitel, did envy installed the driver with no errors at all?
[05:57] <aguitel> poison ,this is old video card and envy say not support it
[05:57] <poison--> hummm
[05:57] <aguitel> poison ,i try to install mannualy but nothing change and x do not start
[05:57] <poison--> tried to dl the driver from ATI.com and install?
[05:58] <lewix> I don't get it, I'm don't have any sound
[05:58] <lewix> I was watching a video on youtube and the sound faded out
[05:58] <lewix> now I'm trying to play a widget-sound but it wouldn't work
[05:58] <poison--> y8ding, did u try to blacklist the default driver?
[05:59] <lewix> what's the problem
[05:59] <y8ding> uhm...no not yet...don't know how
[06:00] <Tomerz> Daisuke_Laptop : so to reinstall kubuntu?
[06:00] <y8ding> then again i could probably search that up
[06:00] <poison--> y8ding: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)
[06:00] <poison--> worked fine with me with two diferent laptops usin that card
[06:01] <poison--> echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:01] <poison--> only worked for me after i did dat
[06:01] <y8ding> huh...cool...i didn't find this...will definitely try it
[06:02] <poison--> make sure u have the lates ndiswrapper 1.47 ( i think ) and all the dependencies
[06:02] <Tomerz> Daisuke_Laptop : so to reinstall kubuntu?
[06:02] <moofoo> is there a backport of openoffice 2.3 for feisty somewhere?
[06:04] <ibilic> how do I "undo" a su command?
[06:05] <poison--> depends
[06:05] <poison--> on what u did
[06:05] <ibilic> in the terminal, I wrote "sudo su"
[06:05] <ibilic> and accessed some files
[06:05] <llutz> ibilic: ctrl-d
[06:05] <ibilic> my prompt changed from $ to #
[06:05] <ibilic> now I want it to change back
[06:05] <llutz> ibilic: ctrl-d
[06:06] <poison--> eheheh
[06:06] <poison--> u only changed from regular user to root
[06:06] <poison--> no problem with dat
[06:07] <poison--> its like: "Im a cop and u have to respect my authority!!"
[06:07] <poison--> lmao
[06:07] <ibilic> sure
[06:08] <ibilic> so how do i change it back?
[06:08] <moofoo> http://xkcd.com/149/ <- it's more like this ;)
[06:08] <llutz> ibilic: 3rd time: press "ctrl-d" or type "exit"
[06:08] <ibilic> sorry, thanks :)
[06:08] <ibilic> now, next question, how do I access these hidden files from Knqueror?
[06:08] <genii> ibilic: If you modified any files in the regular users' home directory that normally are owned by that regular user you may need to change ownership to them again after. Anyhow, to exit su type exit.
[06:09] <ibilic> no, I mounted a Windows partition
[06:09] <ibilic> in the mnt folder
[06:09] <ibilic> and wanted to access it
[06:09] <ubuntu> so what's this i hear about not being able to access root user?
[06:09] <genii> !root | ubuntu
[06:09] <poison--> u can act like root
[06:10] <ubotu> ubuntu: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:10] <jhutchins> !SUDO
[06:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:10] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[06:10] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:10] <ubuntu> well, you can reset the root password as well and become "root", but someone tells me that that is not root either?
[06:11] <hydrogen> it is root
[06:11] <ubuntu> so what gives with ubuntu, why give up root?
[06:11] <ubuntu> ok, that is what i thought
[06:11] <jhutchins> Yum!
[06:11] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Read the stuff at the URL above for why.
[06:11] <hydrogen> patching root out of linux would be pretty much impossible
[06:11] <hydrogen> though you could rename root I guess
[06:17] <jthomas> Daisuke_Ido: I was unsuccessful with the NVidia-GLX-legacy package :(  why do you recommend against Envy?
[06:18] <lewix> who lied that linux don't freeze
[06:18] <lewix> it's fucking freezing lol.
[06:18] <jthomas> ??
[06:18] <jthomas> watch the language lewix
[06:18] <BluesKaj> !language | lewix
[06:18] <ubotu> lewix: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:18] <savetheWorld> lewix: you may also want to engage the brain
[06:20] <savetheWorld> lewix: anyone who interpets such statements in a totally literal fashion is either intentionally looking for an argument or is simply being foolish.
[06:20] <hydrogen> anyone who makes such statements is as well
[06:22] <jthomas> does anyone know why I should not use Envy to install NVidia drivers?
[06:22] <savetheWorld> hydrogen: I'm afraid you lack my years of experience. Dont worry about it.  Time will cure it for you.  *plonk*  (which mean you've been put on ignore)
[06:22] <BluesKaj> !envy | jthomas
[06:22] <ubotu> jthomas: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:23] <ibilic> "Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files."
[06:23] <ibilic> ummm... i've done that
[06:23] <ibilic> how do I check if I've "mucked up" my config files
[06:23] <jthomas> hmm, same idea as Automatix i guess.  OK, can anyone tell me if Adept engages the Restricted Manager, or is that something i have to do manually/seperatly?
[06:24] <jthomas> ibilic: if you're working then you're prob safe, i guess!
[06:24] <hydrogen> I think you need to start restricted manager yourself
[06:24] <ubuntu> i've used root all the time.  if your carefull you can do it well
[06:24] <ubuntu> if your not, hope you have a good backup
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> i  Always manually install/run the restricted manager tool
[06:24] <jthomas> ubuntu why take that chance?
[06:25] <BluesKaj> !restricted manager
[06:25] <emilsedgh> jthomas: no restriced manager for Feisty...
[06:25] <hydrogen> yea there is
[06:25] <hydrogen> its just a gnome app
[06:26] <hydrogen> restricted-manager-kde got added in gutsy
[06:26] <ubuntu> jthomas: why not.  good practices will not cause you problems
[06:26] <hydrogen> err
[06:26] <hydrogen> using root regularly is not a good practice
[06:27] <BluesKaj> Restricted Manager provides a Gnome user interface for configuring non-free hardware drivers, such as the Nvidia and ATI fglrx X.org and various Wireless LAN kernel modules.
[06:27] <jthomas> it just seems kinda dumb.  thats the point of having different accounts.  Thats like saying, "i drive safe so i don't need a seat belt" when there are other people who can still wreck your machine
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: hope you don't screw anything up running as root, because you're SOL for help when you do.
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> notice i said when, not if
[06:29] <BluesKaj> jthomas, Restricted Manager is available in adept , synaptic and apt , package managers if you have the repos in your sources.list
[06:29] <ibilic> ok guys, I mounted a windows partition, put it in mnt... now mnt has root priviledges
[06:29] <ibilic> why?
[06:30] <jthomas> ok well... please don't hurt me but I ended up using Envy anyways and it worked.  Not best practice, I know...  it seems that user Ubuntu rubbed off on me ;)
[06:30] <jthomas> ubuntu sorry i jest
[06:31] <BluesKaj> well , I would be wary of ppl who don't know how to change their nicks from the default ubuntu when they join freenode, prolly for the first time .
[06:33] <ubuntu> Daisuke_Ido: been using root for 10 years
[06:35] <ubuntu> just need to be hyperaware of what user your currently.  and yes, i have screwed something up from time to time, but, hey, that is what backups are for
[06:35] <ibilic> where can I find a description of what all the folders contain? i.e. bin boot cdrom dev etc home...
[06:35] <ibilic> also, where do you usually mount your Windows partition?
[06:35] <ibilic> ( for those of you who have one )
[06:36] <hydrogen> ibilic: look up the FHS
[06:36] <hydrogen> on google
[06:36] <hydrogen> (Filesystem heirarchy standard)
[06:36] <hydrogen> it explains what goes where and why
[06:38] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: To be fair, a lot of us have plenty of experience using the root account.  Over the years I've usually had a root console open on my desktop.
[06:38] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Still, in ubuntu I try to play along with the sudo scheme and not run as root most of the time.
[06:38] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: If I'm impatient to get something done and have a string of root tasks, I'll use the built-in shell function on sudo, but I leave the root account locked.
[06:39] <hydrogen> what config file is it to make 'xhost +local:user' permanent?
[06:45] <uga> re
[06:47] <maverick> anyone know how to execute a *.py script
[06:47] <maverick> ??
[06:47] <maverick> !py
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about py - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <uga> hydrogen: don't use xhost
[06:48] <maverick> !python
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <hydrogen> uga: that doesn't answer my question.
[06:48] <jthomas> ./blah.py
[06:48] <maverick> i did but nothing
[06:48] <rumith> chmod u+x yourscript.py; ./yourscript.py
[06:48] <uga> hydrogen: sure, I don't know that one, but ... will you give me the chance to offer you a better solution? =)
[06:48] <uga> hydrogen: you need that for the root, right?
[06:48] <jthomas> yes you may need to make it executable
[06:48] <hydrogen> no
[06:48] <uga> hydrogen: well, whatever other user... edit .bashrc, and add export XAUTHORITY=/homn
[06:49] <uga> hydrogen: well, whatever other user... edit .bashrc, and add export XAUTHORITY=/home/runninguser/.Xauthority
[06:49] <uga> that will do
[06:49] <maverick> jthomas: u're right
[06:49] <maverick> thnx ppl
[06:49] <hydrogen> and what benefit does that give over xhost?
[06:50] <uga> hydrogen: security... with xhost you allow anyone to access your X server. Well, locally, in your case, I guess. With the xauthority export, only the person that got acess to the .Xauthority file
[06:50] <uga> ie, root, or whoever you decided on
[06:50] <hydrogen> uga: no, I allow that user
[06:50] <hydrogen> xhost +local:user
[06:50] <hydrogen> allows that user
[06:50] <uga> oh, I didn't know that was possible
[06:50] <hydrogen> plus anyone can export XAUTHORITY
[06:50] <hydrogen> to be the same value
[06:50] <hydrogen> which makes it less secure
[06:50] <uga> hydrogen: no, you need access to the .Xauhtority file
[06:50] <uga> which is in the home of the user running the X server
[06:51] <uga> the variable only points to where the file is
[06:51] <hydrogen> so uhh
[06:51] <uga> -rw------- 1 uga uga 1058 2007-09-16 13:12 .Xauthority
[06:51] <hydrogen> if I'm running as a different user
[06:51] <hydrogen> then I don't have access to that xauthority file
[06:52] <hydrogen> which makes it unhelpful
[06:52] <uga> unless you give that user permissions
[06:52] <uga> to access the file
[06:52] <uga> not sure how the xhost works. Does it send the user over the net?
[06:52] <hydrogen> I can't give just one user permission to access a file
[06:52] <uga> if applied remotely
[06:52] <hydrogen> without making a separate group
[06:52] <hydrogen> that only the two users are in
[06:52] <hydrogen> xhost is the proper way
[06:52] <uga> hydrogen: you can, through the ... arf, what was the user table method
[06:53] <hydrogen> so how do I make the settings permanent
[06:53] <uga> there's another method to add permissions to linux users
[06:53] <hydrogen> I don't want some silly hack around the proper way
[06:53] <hydrogen> I want /the/ proper way
[06:53] <uga> hydrogen: xauthority is another proper way suggested by others ;)
[06:53] <hydrogen> uga: theres no way thats the proper way
[06:53] <uga> actually, your line is the first time I see it done right
[06:53] <uga> most just suggest xhosting everyone
[06:54] <uga> which is plain silly
[06:55] <uga> uhmpf.. I can't recall. there's a way to use unix permissions in a per-user basis. No need to have groups
[06:55] <uga> anyone remembers its name? it's long time I haven't even bothered
[06:55] <Carnage\> ACL
[06:55] <uga> a thanks. Acl lists
[06:55] <Carnage\> :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Ive heard those can be a bit... complex. :)
[06:55] <Carnage\> I think the "l" already means list
[06:55] <Carnage\> Right you are :)
[06:55] <uga> heh, yes =)
[06:56] <uga> Dr_willis: kde supports them if enabled
[06:56] <uga> should be simple
[06:56] <uga> I don't think ubuntu got them implemented though
[06:56] <Dr_willis> 'should' :)
[06:56] <uga> heh
[06:56] <Dr_willis> I was thinking that was to be an optional feature in Gutsy?
[06:56] <PhinnFort> focus follows mind?
[06:56] <PhinnFort> or the kitchen sink?
[06:56] <uga> Dr_willis: imagine a ubuntu user in a machine. Bob. Then another user, Pat. Pat wants to share an mp3 file with Bob, but none are sysadmins
[06:56] <uga> Dr_willis: how can you do that in linux?
[06:56] <uga> answer: you can't
[06:57] <uga> well, except using networking and e-mail ;)
[06:57] <PhinnFort> uga: you right click, select properties, sharing
[06:57] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:57] <Dr_willis> uga,  hmm.. user bob can make a publid dir in his home dir. letting others access it.
[06:57] <uga> PhinnFort: that's samba sharing or so
[06:57] <Dr_willis> then again you mean 'using only the idiot-gui-interface' :)
[06:57] <PhinnFort> right click properties permissions then
[06:57] <uga> Dr_willis: only Pat, not everyone ;)
[06:57] <PhinnFort> uga: nfs or samba, your choosing
[06:58] <PhinnFort> uga: still perfectly possible from your cozy gui
[06:58] <hydrogen> that allows all users in the group
[06:58] <uga> yeah, as I said, only through networking
[06:58] <Dr_willis> most users dont care. :) they would copy the file over to a thumbdrive and give it to him.
[06:58] <hydrogen> or requires a password
[06:58] <uga> anyway, the groups method is rather limited for permissions. As users can't do much about it
[06:58] <PhinnFort> uga: didn't you read my second comment?;)
[06:58] <Dr_willis> I for one dont worry about  it. I make a  "Public" share for samba that everyone can access.
[06:58] <PhinnFort> uga: how not?
[06:58] <gary> how do I save a session in kde
[06:59] <Dr_willis> I never use groups. Since i only got the one user. :)
[06:59] <gary> one of
[06:59] <uga> PhinnFort: I said it was possible through networking from the beginning
[06:59] <uga> nfs/samba/etc
[06:59] <PhinnFort> uga: he can set it to "users", and give the group read/execute perimissinos
[06:59] <uga> even e-mail
[06:59] <PhinnFort> *ssions
[06:59] <uga> PhinnFort: and that gives access to everyone
[06:59] <uga> not just Pat
[06:59] <PhinnFort> uga: and I keep saying you can change permissions
[06:59] <PhinnFort> uga: everyone in the users group
[06:59] <Dr_willis> totally
[06:59] <uga> PhinnFort: exactly. in order to share a file only with Pat, you'd need to put Pat in a new group and give access to that group
[07:00] <PhinnFort> uga: or he can just give read permissions, so the other person needs the filename first
[07:00] <uga> but you can't do that unless you are root
[07:00] <PhinnFort> uga: not necessarily
[07:00] <PhinnFort> uga: in unix, to see folder contents, you need execute permissions
[07:00] <uga> Dr_willis: me too =)
[07:00] <uga> PhinnFort: yup, but you cannot give permissions of execution only to a single user
[07:01] <PhinnFort> uga: you don't need to
[07:01] <uga> PhinnFort: the idea is letting _only_ Pat access the file
[07:01] <PhinnFort> uga: a friend of mine, on the same shared server, gave me the filename for a file in a folder I didn't have execute permissions
[07:01] <uga> and Pat isn't in a specific unix group
[07:01] <Dr_willis> A REAL os would magicially telaport the data over. :)
[07:01] <PhinnFort> security by obscurity, but okay security for what you're talking about
[07:01] <uga> PhinnFort: oh, that's cheating ;)
[07:01] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:02] <Dr_willis> befor the users even knew they wanted to share the file!
[07:02] <uga> anyway, I think ACL would be nice if enabled
[07:02] <uga> no idea why it wasn't
[07:02] <PhinnFort> no
[07:02] <uga> does it pose any issues?
[07:02] <uga> security wise?
[07:02] <PhinnFort> uga: ubuntu is for humans, human don't need them
[07:02] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:02] <uga> PhinnFort: acl is exactly how users think
[07:02] <PhinnFort> uga: seriously, I've never met anyone who used them in real life
[07:02] <uga> groups and others isn't usually
[07:03] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:03] <uga> PhinnFort: anyone? all windows users do ;)
[07:03] <uga> how does osx do this btw? do they use anything like acl?
[07:03] <PhinnFort> uga: we administer a system for some 1800 users or something atm, and we only need standard unix groups
[07:03] <maverick> did anyone managed to install dekorator??
[07:03] <uga> PhinnFort: sysadmins don't need acl. It's users that do ;))
[07:03] <PhinnFort> uga: I think they only use standard unix groups by default (from what i've seen)
[07:04] <PhinnFort> uga: well, none of our users need it (that includes web developers, accounting people, etc.)
[07:04] <uga> lol, have you asked them? :P
[07:04] <PhinnFort> uga: well, they whine about pretty much anything that doesn't work as they would want it to, so...;)
[07:05] <uga> LOL
[07:06] <uga> PhinnFort: I've been working in a system such big as you mention, as a user. I know the pains sometimes we suffered, but most the times we didn't care commenting on those, because we knew maintenance could become harder
[07:06] <uga> the system worked as it was, so why bother... but then we had no proper privacy in our /homes
[07:07] <uga> if I were asked. sure I'd have replied I'd want it, and others too
[07:07] <PhinnFort> uga: well, I'm also a user (in another system/cluster of servers), and there we just create non-executable folder when we need to share stuff
[07:07] <uga> PhinnFort: okay,... how many of the kubuntu users you know, can tell how a non-executable yet readable folder works? =)
[07:08] <uga> I'd say 99% would fail
[07:08] <Tomerz> Daisuke-Ido / Daisuke_ido : so to reinstall kubuntu?:O
[07:09] <BluesKaj> ok, I just installed Thunderbird 2.0 and I need to activate the links in email messages to open my browser , where in about:config thunderbird is that command ?
[07:09] <PhinnFort> uga: well, then we need to educate them:P
[07:09] <uga> lol
[07:10] <lazz0> how much for a lesson
[07:10] <uga> PhinnFort: lets make non-graphical command line default in kubuntu too. and teach them how to run startx ;)
[07:10] <lazz0> :(
[07:11] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:12] <PhinnFort> uga: okay, i give up, go and whine to #ubuntu-dev or whatever for acl;)
[07:12] <uga> lol
[07:14] <uga> PhinnFort: shit, and I thought you were the kdelibs maintainer. Wasted 30mins tryingi to convince a nobody? :P
[07:14] <uga> PhinnFort: kidding
[07:14] <stdin> !ohmy | uga
[07:14] <ubotu> uga: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:15] <uga> stdin: it was a joke...
[07:15] <jhutchins> uga: You have been warnded before.
[07:15] <uga> ?
[07:15] <jhutchins> warned even
[07:15] <ubuntu> Hi
[07:15] <stdin> uga: doesn't matter, "family friendly" channel
[07:15] <uga> PhinnFort: please if you felt offended at any point accept my apologize, but I think you understood it was just a joke, as I commented on the next line
[07:16] <uga> stdin: oh ok
[07:16] <ribena007> evening people, how you all doing? :p
[07:16] <uga> stdin: so no words like "s***t"? =)
[07:16] <stdin> indeed
[07:16] <uga> okay
[07:16] <jhutchins> uga: It's the language, not the joke.
[07:16] <jhutchins> uga: Make it seriously kid/family friendly.
[07:16] <ribena007> uga got someones attention and all he had to do was swear... interesting :P j/k
[07:16] <jhutchins> uga: Nothing the church lady would object to.
[07:17] <uga> sure, I didn't know the channel had such strict language rules
[07:17] <jhutchins> ribena007: Actually, his language has been a problem for a couple of days.
[07:17] <jhutchins> ribena007: Did you need attention for something?
[07:17] <stdin> all *buntu* channels do
[07:17] <jhutchins> uga: Most tech channels do, there's no need for thugish language or behavior.
[07:18] <ribena007> jhutchiris nah it was a joke :P i'm just enjoying me new operating system lol, i prefer not to ask for help you don't learn without trying
[07:18] <uga> jhutchins: not developer channels that I frequent ;)
[07:18] <jhutchins> Doesn't say much for the quality of their intellect.
[07:19] <jhutchins> ribena007: Try tab completion!  Just asking in case you needed something,
[07:19] <jhutchins> uga: What do you work on in software development?
[07:19] <uga> jhutchins: it's just normal street language. Just check the kernel code sources and have fun
[07:19] <jhutchins> uga: Doesn't matter.
[07:19] <uga> jhutchins: I code kde apps mostly
[07:19] <uga> or embedded systems
[07:19] <stdin> have a read of: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:20] <jhutchins> uga: Like what? What are you a contributor on?
[07:20] <uga> jhutchins: my first app was krecipes.sf.net, then I contributed some plugin to digikam, some fixes to the kde desktop, the kdm login manager's themer...
[07:20] <uga> quite varied
[07:21] <uga> you won't find rude language committed by me ;)
[07:21] <ribena007> thanks jhutchins i'm new to all of this lol. spent 3 weeks trying get the internet on
[07:22] <deviance> Whats the shortcut to terminate a window?
[07:22] <TunaTom> deviance: alt-f4 ?
[07:23] <genii> deviance: ctrl-alt-esc  put skull on offending window, click
[07:23] <deviance> Thankyou :D
[07:23] <maverick> trying to instal dekorator all goes well, but i can't see anything in Kcontrol....any ideas?
[07:23] <uga> oh, tsdgeos you're here?, can I ask one q... is it troublesome to enable acl list support in kubuntu's kde?
[07:24] <maverick> !repeat | maverick
[07:24] <maverick> !repeat @ maverick
[07:24] <PhinnFort> uga: sorry, I was away:P
[07:24] <PhinnFort> uga: I'm not easily offended
[07:24] <tsdgeos> uga: how should i know? i thought you were going to ask something about kpdf :D
[07:26] <uga> tsdgeos: oh, I thought you were maintaining kde packs, but that was riddell, sorry
[07:27] <uga> tsdgeos: oh btw, nice work you guys have done in okular
[07:28] <tsdgeos> ;-)
[07:28] <uga> tsdgeos: btw, is it intentional that the thumbs show darker when opening pictures?
[07:28] <uga> it's hardish to see them sometimes
[07:29] <tsdgeos> uga: not really, what probably happens is that the "selected" overlay makes it darker
[07:29] <uga> yup, possibly, since only one pic is open
[07:30] <uga> since one needs to scroll the box to scroll through the picture, I found that seeing the thumb nicely was important
[07:30] <uga> it's possibly an style issue anyway
[07:45] <jared> hi all
[07:45] <jared> anyone know about sound problems?
[07:45] <stdin> !sound
[07:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:50] <fabian__> Hey Guys! Anybody there who can help me with diff and patch? I have changed a file, then I did "diff old new > changes.diff" and now I don't have the new file anymore, but only the changes.diff. It is not a patchfile. Any suggestions??
[07:50] <nadrosima> u want change use mv command
[07:50] <nadrosima> not copy or another
[07:51] <fabian__> well, but that's only a file containing all the differences between old and new...
[07:52] <stdin> patch files use "diff -u old new"  not just "diff old new"
[07:53] <nadrosima> cp /your-dir/your-old.file /new-dir/new-file.name
[07:53] <fabian__> stdin: well........ I just now that - now. but I've lost the new file.....
[07:54] <nadrosima> humms
[07:54] <uga> fabian__: it's just the format that changes. Is it a big file?
[07:54] <nadrosima> what this file type ?
[07:55] <Turazoor> hi all, anyone know why i am getting acces denied faults on mysql (version 5) i have tried loads of username and password combinations, is there a default im not trying?
[07:55] <fabian__> It's a python script... (well, to be exact, it is a gui-script for python)
[07:55] <uga> fabian__: try "patch -n"
[07:55] <uga>     -n  or  --normal
[07:55] <uga>           Interpret the patch file as a normal diff.
[07:56] <uga> ^^^^ rather than unified diff
[07:56] <fabian__> ah, okay, I'll try!
[07:58] <fabian__> uga: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37714/ here is the diff file I try to use (one of them, not the gui one), and this is the output:
[07:58] <fabian__> fabian@Macbook:~/Projekte/kde-guidance-powermanager$ patch -n < powermanage.py.diff
[07:58] <fabian__> can't find file to patch at input line 1
[07:58] <fabian__> Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
[07:58] <fabian__> File to patch: powermanage.py
[07:58] <fabian__> patching file powermanage.py
[07:58] <fabian__> patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line
[07:58] <fabian__> patch: **** unexpected end of file in patch at line 58
[07:59] <uga> uhm
[07:59] <Jucato> !paste | fabian__
[07:59] <ubotu> fabian__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:59] <fabian__> Jucato: I'm sorry! Didn't know it would be that long...
[08:00] <uga> fabian__: you need to specify what file you want to patch
[08:00] <uga> unified diffs contain the filename on top
[08:00] <fabian__> yeah, I did
[08:00] <uga> normal diffs don't
[08:00] <uga> patch -n < powermanage.py.diff <--- you didn't, there
[08:00] <uga> that's only the diff
[08:00] <uga> where's the file ;)
[08:00] <fabian__> well, patch asks for the file.... see "File to patch:"
[08:00] <uga> oh
[08:00] <fabian__> :)
[08:01] <uga> fabian__: do you have the source file?
[08:01] <uga> so that I can test
[08:01] <uga> s/do you have/can I have
[08:01] <uga> I'm sure it should be possible...
[08:01] <uga> fabian__: else, changes are minimal. You could do them by hand
[08:01] <fabian__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37717/ :)
[08:02] <uga> kay,... lemme test...
[08:02] <uga> fabian__: errrm... you're not kugler, right? =)
[08:02] <fabian__> well, in this file the changes really are "minimal", but there are 3 other files to patch. one of them is the gui-script, and it is nearly impossible for me to change!
[08:03] <fabian__> aehm, who?!
[08:04] <uga> fabian__: sebastien kgler, the original file's author ;)
[08:04] <fabian__> no, I'm not ;) But I sent him the patches and he's looking on them...
[08:05] <Jucato> that would be sebas
[08:05] <uga> heh okay. I was wondering if there was a nick change :P
[08:05] <fabian__>  :)
[08:05] <Jucato> a whois would tell :)
[08:05] <uga> aehrmm... sure =)
[08:06] <uga> fabian__: it looks as if it's searching for something to finish the file
[08:06] <fabian__> hmm...., and what does that mean for me?
[08:06] <uga> fabian__: manually patch it?
[08:07] <fabian__> oh.... damn...
[08:07] <uga> fabian__: it's simple. the patch lines is only about line number and column no. iirc
[08:07] <uga> and there's only 2-3 blocks
[08:07] <uga> so 2-3 copy pastes only
[08:07] <uga> that is, if the patch is complete
[08:08] <fabian__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37721/ only to check out what this would mean for me ;) - this is also one of the diffs
[08:09] <yetis> lecek
[08:10] <stdin> yetis: #ubuntu-tr
[08:11] <uga> fabian__: I just tested....
[08:11] <uga> diff file1.txt file2.txt >diff.diff
[08:11] <uga> rm file2.txt
[08:11] <uga> patch -n file1.txt diff.diff
[08:11] <uga> ^^^ works fine
[08:11] <uga> so not sure what happenned to your patch
[08:12] <fabian__> hm...
[08:12] <uga> are you sure you got the complete diff file?
[08:13] <uga> fabian__: it doesn't work with your original file and patch though
[08:13] <uga> have you tried with  the diffs from other files?
[08:14] <fabian__> I'm trying it, just a second please :)
[08:15] <equipo17> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:16] <fabian__> uga: no, it doesnt work with other patches either :(
[08:17] <uga> fabian__: maybe normal patches are limited in use
[08:18] <fabian__> hm.... yeah... maybe they really are....
[08:18] <Iradigalesc> r
[08:20] <Cael> is this teh right channel to get help on kubuntu PPC?
[08:22] <stdin> for kubuntu in general, the place is here
[08:24] <Cael> was going to ask how do i get my imac to boot the installed kubuntu partion, i had to go into OpenFirmware to make it boot the cd.
[08:25] <Cael> (i'm trying to get my mac in general to Dualboot OSX and kubuntu )
[08:27] <BluesKaj> Hmm, no wonder i'm sticking with kmail , thunderbird 2.0 won't launch the browser from email links ..i know there's fix in t-bird about:config but the terminology escapes my understanding :)
[08:29] <XboxUser> Can anyone here please help me? im new to kubuntu/linux and don't know to install an app
[08:29] <XboxUser> I have a tar.gz file on my desktop but need help on what to do next
[08:29] <stdin> !tar
[08:29] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[08:29] <stdin> it's like a .zip
[08:30] <XboxUser> ok
[08:30] <fkm> Is there a way to get rid of the bluetooth-icon in the system settings? I don't have Bluetooth on my desktop computer and if I just remove the bluetooth packages a blank icon remains in the system settings window :(
[08:31] <stdin> why do you need to remove it, it's not hurting you
[08:31] <fkm> I would. But I don't like KTorrent as much as Azureus ;)
[08:31] <fkm> stdin, no it's rather a cosmetic thing :D
[08:32] <emilsedgh> XboxUser: just ask
[08:32] <stdin> fkm: well I don't think you can, not without re-compiling
[08:32] <stdin> !pm | XboxUser
[08:32] <ubotu> XboxUser: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:32] <fkm> Ok, thank you stdin :)
[08:32] <stdin> XboxUser: it depends on what you're installing
[08:34] <XboxUser> im trying to install klibido
[08:34] <XboxUser> dunno what to do
[08:34] <stdin> that's in the repositories
[08:34] <stdin> !info klibido
[08:34] <ubotu> klibido: usenet binary grabber for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-3ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 427 kB, installed size 1384 kB
[08:34] <XboxUser> ah
[08:34] <uga> XboxUser: you don't need to install it from the sources. What you got are the source code of the application
[08:34] <stdin> use adept to install it
[08:35] <fabian__> uga: It's the final newline which is missing!!! :) It works :) Thank you so very much!
[08:35] <uga> fabian__: for nothing? =)
[08:35] <uga> congrats, btw
[08:36] <fabian__> uga: for being there ;)
[08:36] <deviance> Anyone know why when I hit next song it changes song really really fast and doesnt stop, it only happens occasionaly and fixes on restart.
[08:36] <cochon_dingue> Hi
[08:36] <deviance> It happens in amarok, banshee and kaffine wont play either
[08:39] <emilsedgh> deviance: whats your AmaroK version? I think this is an old bug...havent seen it for a long time
[08:40] <Kbroc93> bye all
[08:40] <deviance> How can i check my amarok version without starting it?
[08:40] <deviance> And it shouldnt affect banshee aswell shout it?
[08:40] <deviance> Ooh, its suddenly started working again
[08:41] <deviance> Its my sound system
[08:41] <emilsedgh> deviance: Help -> About Amarok
[08:41] <deviance> 1.4.5
[08:42] <deviance> Whats the newest version?
[08:42] <stdin> 1.4.7
[08:43] <deviance> Is the upgrade in the reppos?
[08:43] <deviance> Its not showing me any newer version available at all.
[08:43] <stdin> probably on http://kubuntu.org/packages
[08:43] <stdin> you'll have to add the apt line
[08:44] <emilsedgh> deviance: 1.4.7, there are newer packages for kubuntu
[08:44] <deviance> How do I do that stdin?
[08:44] <deviance> Its only up to 145 in the link you sent
[08:45] <emilsedgh> deviance: go to kubuntu.org, I think you could find about AmaroK on latest news
[08:45] <stdin> hmm, should be in feisty-backports actually
[08:45] <stdin> if you're on dapper/edgy then you're stuck
[08:46] <deviance> Im on feisty. I think the backports are enabled, how do I check?
[08:46] <stdin> look in Adept
[08:46] <stdin> File > Manage Repositories
[08:46] <deviance> Okay, 1 sec
[08:47] <emilsedgh> deviance: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.7.php learns you :)
[08:47] <deviance> Yeah I found it :P
[08:47] <Morrissey> hi! how do I change the permission of a folder an ALL of its files and recursive folders to my current user to read, write and execute?
[08:48] <deviance> stdin: In the updates tab, pre-release updates and unsupported updates are unticked.
[08:48] <deviance> Unsuported are backports, correct?
[08:49] <emilsedgh> Morrissey: there is a checkbox in Properties->Permissions
[08:49] <stdin> deviance: I think it's unsupported
[08:49] <deviance> Okay :D
[08:49] <deviance> Thats worked :D
[08:50] <emilsedgh> Morrissey: or in konsole type: chmpd -r 777 /path/to/dir :)
[08:50] <Minataku> No you're not
[08:50] <deviance> owned
[08:50] <Minataku> lol
[08:50] <stdin> Morrissey: better is "chmod -r u+rw /path/to/dir"
[08:50] <emilsedgh> s/chmpd/chmod
[08:51] <stdin> Morrissey: but why do you need to?
[08:51] <Minataku> Yeah, you don't want EVERYONE having RWX
[08:51] <Morrissey> yeah, thanks stdin :)
[08:51] <Morrissey> stdin, just some permissions on my music files wich I copied from a external drive :) Nothing important .. thanks again
[08:51] <stdin> ok :)
[08:51] <Minataku> yetis: Sorry, BTW, just messing around
[08:52] <Morrissey> does -R make it recursive? Sounds logic enough ;)
[08:52] <Minataku> Heh, my external drives are mounted outside my /home for reasons that seemed sensible at the time (and still do, more or less)
[08:52] <stdin> btw, files should *only* be executable if you intend to *execute* then
[08:52] <emilsedgh> stdin: I just wanted to say thanks to you, youre doing a big job here...
[08:53] <deviance> I probably shouldnt have, but my WWW directory I chmoded, I dont care who edits it, as I am the only one who uses this PC, and every time I need to update some files I have to open MC
[08:53] <Minataku> Nonexecutable files, for example, should not have x permission
[08:53] <Minataku> Same with executable files you don't want being executed for $REASON
[08:54] <lewix> hello
[08:55] <deviance> stdin:  I did an update, and its updating koffice, even though i dont have it installed, is Kontact or Kexi a component of it?
[08:56] <stdin> deviance: don't think so, it will only update things that are already installed anyway
[08:56] <deviance> Hmm, well it wasnt installed before :P
[08:56] <deviance> Doesnt apear to be now
[08:56] <deviance> I guess its needed by someapp
[08:57] <stdin> shouldn't be, if it get's installed it's time to report a bug
[08:57] <deviance> Well, all up todate now :D
[08:58] <JuJuBee> I just finished setting up my computer lab.  I have nis running.  I created accounts and students can log in.  I know they are supposed to use yppasswd to change passwords.  When they try to, they get an error "yppasswd not running on master host".  when I do rcpinfo -p (on the server) it looks like yppasswd is running.
[08:59] <Kbroc93> hi andrea
[08:59] <Kbroc93> andrea: are you Italian?
[09:00] <inaety> is there a browser that is like epiphany but written in Qt?
[09:00] <Kbroc93> antonio__: are you italian?
[09:02] <Tonren> Akregator hasn't updated any feeds in 3 days.  What's the story?
[09:02] <stdin> have you checked it's settings?
[09:03] <BluesKaj> got mine ok, this morning Tonren
[09:03] <Tonren> stdin: Which settings, dude?
[09:03] <Tonren> Bizarre...
[09:03] <Tonren> This is really bizarre.
[09:03] <stdin> Tonren: Akregator's settings, ie: Settings > Configure Akregator
[09:03] <Tonren> stdin: ..... which settings, though?  There are a lot of settings.
[09:04] <Tonren> I've manually re-fetched every feed
[09:04] <stdin> the "General" one
[09:04] <Tonren> Using Ctrl + L, and hitting F5 on each one
[09:04] <stdin> "Use fetching interval"
[09:04] <Tonren> It's at 30 minutes, stdin
[09:04] <stdin> interval fetching rather
[09:04] <Tonren> But, I've manually refetched all the feeds, and they still haven't updated.
[09:04] <BluesKaj> "fetch all feeds" not responding ?
[09:05] <stdin> then check each feed, right click > edit feed
[09:05] <stdin> see if they use custom intervals
[09:05] <Tonren> BluesKaj: It's responding--I can see the icons dim and re-light as they get fetched
[09:05] <Tonren> stdin: They dont
[09:05] <Tonren> stdin: Even if they did, it wouldn't matter, because I've been manually refetching them.
[09:05] <stdin> then it should work, fetches them fine here
[09:06] <Tonren> I know it should work... but it's not.
[09:06] <Tonren> The weird thing is that it's not giving me an error.  The feeds aren't becoming X's
[09:06] <Tonren> It's like it's FINDING them, but pretending that they haven't been updated
[09:06] <Tonren> Maybe if I turn off "Use browser cache"...
[09:06] <BluesKaj> is there qicker way to delete old feeds than clicking individual titles with the ctrl key and then deleting ?
[09:07] <Tonren> Oh, dear.
[09:08] <Tonren> When I unclicked "Use browser cache" and hit Ctrl + L, all feeds turned to X's.
[09:09] <Tonren> Oop.. now they're back
[09:09] <Tonren> But still not updated.
[09:10] <BluesKaj> AP is really screwed up I have up to 5 copies of each feed at times
[09:10] <Tonren> Can anyone tell me what might be going on?
[09:12] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to help me figure out why yppasswd is not working?
[09:13] <JuJuBee> Been searching the web to no avail.
[09:13] <poison--> haaarrr
[09:13] <fabian__> good night everyone!
[09:13] <poison--> hey buds, how can i add a shortcut for mercury anywhere?
[09:15] <poison--> !java
[09:15] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:17] <Tonren> Man... what in the world is up with Akregator?!
[09:20] <boy330>
[09:20] <boy330> who can give me money
[09:21] <paolo> hi. when I try to download with apt-get, it connects to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>) and doesn't work. what could be broken?
[09:21] <Tonren> C'mon guys.  What could be making Akregator think that all its feeds are up-to-date when they're definitely not?
[09:21] <scriptkiddie> paolo: check your sources
[09:22] <prudvi> hi i am planning to upgrade to 7.10 , will i lose all the applications i have in 7.04
[09:22] <paolo> what should i check in the src list scriptkiddie?
[09:22] <prudvi> and can i upgrade to stable release when it is relessed
[09:23] <BluesKaj> scriptkiddie, stating the obvious doesn't help him
[09:23] <sahin_h> prudvi: Yes, you can upgrade after.
[09:23] <scriptkiddie> BluesKaj: well then help him
[09:23] <sahin_h> prudvi: However I recommend to wait for the final release.
[09:23] <prudvi> sahin will it delete my present applications
[09:23] <scriptkiddie> paolo: open up adept and manage repositories
[09:23] <prudvi> oh ok
[09:24] <sahin_h> prudvi: Just 1 month (nearly)
[09:24] <X1398> i ve installed bzflag in kubuntu but it doesnt show in startmenu
[09:24] <prudvi> ok
[09:24] <paolo> scriptkiddie: already solved (the error was not what you said)
[09:24] <stdin> prudvi: unless you are familiar with dpkg, dependencies and bug fixing, don't upgrade until it's stable
[09:24] <scriptkiddie> *shrug*, well, i am guessing given the information you told us
[09:24] <prudvi> mm i dont know any,,,better i wait for stable one
[09:25] <hcbox> is clustering (like with dvdripper) works with other application ?
[09:25] <esper] > hello
[09:25] <esper] > having some odd issues getting xorg to come back up
[09:25] <esper] > installed the msttcorefonts package
[09:26] <X1398> !repeat | ubotu
[09:26] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:26] <esper] > and another font named triskweline and it worked fine until i shutdown X to start up a new compile of xmonad
[09:27] <X1398>  ve installed bzflag in kubuntu how could i creat a shortcut to the "exec/dll"
[09:28] <lewix> do you know a mdn software where we can actually use the webcam
[09:28] <esper] > getting "could not init font path element /usr/share/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, remove from list
[09:28] <esper] > does that for 2 other fonts
[09:28] <esper] > any ideas?
[09:29] <esper] > that and "waiting for X server to shutdown FreeFontPath: FPE" "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1. fixing
[09:30] <esper] > completely reconfigured my xorg.conf using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:30] <esper] > and doesnt help
[09:32] <sahin_h> X1398: Could you start the bzflafg from command line?
[09:32] <X1398> no
[09:32] <sahin_h> X1398: So you don't know the path of the program.
[09:32] <sahin_h> X1398: Well...
[09:32] <X1398> it starts but crashes with a error
[09:33] <sahin_h> X1398: Aham!
[09:33] <sahin_h> X1398: How did you the install?
[09:33] <X1398> apt
[09:33] <Tonren> When I hit Ctrl + L to refetch all feeds in Akregator, I can see the icons dim and brighten as it checks them, but it doesn't update them.  There are new articles that Akregator doesn't add.  What's going on?
[09:34] <sahin_h> X1398: Is there a .bzf directory in your home dir?
[09:34] <X1398> sahin_h: no
[09:35] <X1398> sahin_h: but in /usr/game/bzflag (runable programm)
[09:36] <sahin_h> X1398: Is there any error messages, or just simply crash?
[09:37] <X1398> how to send it to u
[09:38] <X1398> sahin_h: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37724/
[09:38] <sahin_h> X1398: I'm going to check...
[09:39] <sahin_h> X1398: What kind of video crad do you have?
[09:39] <X1398> 8800gtx with the nvidia driver
[09:40] <X1398> but all other opengl games run(netPanzer/Trigger...)
[09:40] <sahin_h> X1398: Impressive one! ;-) Is the restricted nvidia driver installed?
[09:41] <X1398> sahin_h: the nvidia driver from the nvidia page xD
[09:41] <poison--> havin some issues with java here
[09:41] <sahin_h> X1398: I'm going to install bzflag to check have I any issue...
[09:42] <X1398> sahin_h: thx
[09:43] <Fyodor> hello, I'm using apache tomcat, and I'm having problems with the Java Virtual Machine (is too small).  Have someone got any idea about a command for creating a JVM with more space of memory?
[09:43] <X1398> sahin_h: sudo aptitude install bzflag
[09:43] <sahin_h> X1398: Thanks! I've did it already. ;-)
[09:44] <sahin_h> X1398: I've bad news for you. It works for me.
[09:44] <Fyodor> I've been reading something like "java -Xmx512m PATH", but the path is a .jar for the tomcat, and I really don't know about it
[09:44] <X1398> sahin_h: -.-
[09:45] <X1398> u do bzflag in console? and it runs
[09:45] <sahin_h> X1398: And it was installed in the start menu... (start > debian > games > arcade > bzflag )
[09:46] <X1398> ive got no debian sektion may be ive to restart x or smth
[09:46] <sahin_h> X1398: No I didn't try it that way...
[09:46] <sahin_h> X1398: If you wait for a seconds I'm going to try.
[09:46] <Fyodor> If someone know about that, please tell me, because I'm looking for a solution but I didn't find anything, thanks
[09:47] <sahin_h> X1398: Yep, /usr/games/bzflag works too.
[09:48] <X1398> sahin_h: i get these errors -.- may be i ve to kill kubuntu and install etch
[09:49] <sahin_h> X1398: Or maybe you have to install the driver from the repository instead of the nvidia site...
[09:49] <sahin_h> X1398: Just an idea.
[09:49] <X1398> the repos driver is buggy
[09:49] <sahin_h> X1398: Ok, I accept it if you have bad experiences...
[09:50] <X1398> sahin_h: not usable for the 8800's
[09:50] <sahin_h> X1398: By the yaw are you tested your card with hteh nvidia-glx-new package?
[09:50] <X1398> sahin_h: no?howto?
[09:51] <sahin_h> X1398: nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver
[09:51] <sahin_h> X1398: So try to install nvidia-glx-new instead of nvidia-glx
[09:51] <X1398> sahin_h: ill try
[09:52] <sahin_h> X1398: I've a 7600GT only , however it works better with this driver.
[09:52] <tikipreston> KDE is giving me problems. Under style in Appearance and Themes in the Control Center, I cannot "configure" the widget style. Any settings I change in the dialog brought up by the Configure button do not change.
[09:52] <X1398> sahin_h: i still cant chance my screen res to my 1650x1050 natural res
[09:54] <sahin_h> X1398: I understand your feelings, this is the reason why I have to use the latest fglrx ATI driver on my notebook.
[09:54] <X1398> sahin_h: do i have to reeboot?
[09:54] <sahin_h> X1398: Yes, definitly.
[09:54] <X1398> sahin_h: ok cu in a few min maybe
[09:54] <sahin_h> X1398: Because the old nvidia.ko kernel modul still in the memory. I guess..
[09:56] <Lega> 'ello.
[09:57] <tikipreston> KDE is giving me problems. Under style in Appearance and Themes in the Control Center, I cannot "configure" the widget style. Any settings I change in the dialog brought up by the Configure button do not change.
[09:58] <BluesKaj> tikipreston, ppl sometimes forget to click "save" after making changes ...I know it's obvious but I had to mention it.
[09:59] <genii> You may need also sometimes f5 key to refresh desktop for instance
[09:59] <X1398> sahin_h: back doesnt work games dont strat up(even those which worked befor)
[09:59] <tikipreston> I appply the changes, go back to the configure dialog and their back to default. My changes also don't show up in the preview.
[10:00] <tikipreston> sometimes it will tell me that the window decorator has crashed, but not very often.
[10:01] <tikipreston> I think it's not saving the changes.
[10:01] <tikipreston> is there a config file I can manually edit to enable progress bar animation?
[10:02] <rywa-shywa> give your computer time for a rest.. let him pause some hours and reboot him .. would be my suggestion ^^
[10:02] <sahin_h> X1398: Sorry, I have no other idea.
[10:03] <yetis> dncem
[10:04] <sahin_h> X1398: Do you have a 64bit version of kubuntu?
[10:04] <tikipreston> 32 bit
[10:04] <BluesKaj> yes tikipreston, in kcontrol when one saves a change a progress bar pops up
[10:06] <tikipreston> what?
[10:07] <tikipreston> I'm trying to turn on the "Animate Progress Bar" option for plastik. None of the other changes I make seem to take effect either. (Not even in the preview)
[10:07] <BluesKaj> tikipreston, when one saves a change  in kcontrol a progress bar pops up showing that the change is being made.
[10:08] <tikipreston> that doesn't show up
[10:09] <BluesKaj> ok, something is preventing changes ...  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:10] <elliott__> Can linux not handle multiple network connections at the same time?
[10:11] <Tm_T> elliott__: can
[10:12] <elliott__> I've been having a lot of problems with it
[10:12] <elliott__> only ath0 or eth0 ever get an IP address, never both
[10:13] <elliott__> I need both because I'm doing a lot of tests with disabling/enabling the wireless connection through code, but I need to access the internet at the same time
[10:13] <elliott__> and I've really had to fight with it
[10:14] <elliott__> nobody?
[10:14] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[10:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:15] <prudvi> xlib connection to :o.o refused
[10:15] <prudvi> this is what i get when try to install something
[10:16] <prudvi> and now when i was trying to use wine to open utorrent this error came
[10:16] <prudvi> it also says make shure that  your x server is runniing
[10:17] <prudvi> and %Display is set correctly
[10:17] <esper] > can anyone help me with a xorg issue?
[10:19] <jthomas> !samba
[10:19] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:19] <tikipreston> sudo dpkg --configure -a didn't do anything
[10:20] <Lega> Does anyone want to help me figure out why Kubuntu isn't automatically detecting my ethernet card?
[10:20] <tikipreston> what kind of card is it
[10:21] <Lega> Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet Controller
[10:21] <Lega> At least, that is what lspci brings up. Because I don't actually know what kind of card it i.
[10:21] <Lega> *is
[10:22] <Lega> Because support for Averatec laptops is horrid. :\
[10:22] <tikipreston> I've never worked with an ethernet card that's not built into the mobo
[10:22] <Mr_Pan> any ideaas for a FTP server with GUI ?
[10:23] <Lega> Hmm. Oh well, I'll work on it. ^^
[10:23] <esper] > any reason why x will load as root but not as a user?
[10:23] <esper] > user gives this wierd ass font error
[10:23] <esper] > but root loads kde just fine
[10:24] <jthomas> esper] : I too have had that, where X won't start for a normal user.  No idea why, or what happened, or how i fixed it... sorry
[10:25] <esper] > jthomas: damn, just my luck
[10:25] <jthomas> yep
[10:25] <esper] > jthomas: i figure i'll get rid of the last package (font pckage) i installed and try again
[10:25] <esper] > brb testing
[10:28] <Lega> !ethernet
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <Lega> !lan
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <Lega> Hmm...
[10:28] <elliott__> The wireless documentation didn't help
[10:29] <elliott__> I can configure it correctly, but if I connect one, it isconnects the other
[10:29] <elliott__> disconnects
 with some specs, u really have to do dat
[10:30] <poison--> eth0 down so wlan0 works
[10:34] <alesan> hi
[10:34] <alesan> is gpg installed by default on kubuntu?
[10:34] <prudvi> hi
[10:34] <gnomefreak> alesan: is there  a folder ~/.gnupg
[10:34] <prudvi> how to start the x server
[10:34] <gnomefreak> or something of the sort
[10:34] <alesan> gnomefreak: ?? me?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> alesan: yes you want to know if its installed
[10:35] <alesan> no
[10:35] <gnomefreak> that is one way of knowing
[10:35] <alesan> I asked if gpg is installed by default on kubuntu
[10:35] <alesan> I don't know if I installed it or if it is by default
[10:35] <gnomefreak> alesan: i do think they were going to add it but if they did i havent heard yet
[10:35] <alesan> what is the exact name of the package anyway?
[10:35] <prudvi> gnomefreak how to start x server on kubuntu
[10:35] <gnomefreak> when using gpg it will create a ~/.gnupg dir
[10:36] <gnomefreak> prudvi: startx works most of time or install kdm and it should load at start up
[10:36] <prudvi> ok
[10:37] <gnomefreak> prudvi: if not im gonna need alot more to go on
[10:37] <jthomas> lol
[10:39] <XboxUser> Can anyone help me install TightVNC?
[10:40] <XboxUser> i've got tightvnc-1.3.9_unixsrc.tar.gz but dunno how to install it manually?
[10:41] <jthomas> XboxUser: you should try to install software in Adept
[10:41] <jthomas> that file that you have is the source code; it can get a bit complex
[10:41] <XboxUser> I did try adept but it didn't work
[10:41] <jthomas> Adept is a Package Manager which can install a ton of Free software (and some non-Free)
[10:41] <jthomas> what was the issue?
[10:42] <XboxUser> oh wait, no i haven't
[10:42] <XboxUser> whats adept?
[10:42] <jthomas> Adept Package Manager.
[10:42] <jthomas> or Synaptic, or Kynaptic, or a few others... basically they get all the pieces of a software and install it for you, real slick like.
[10:43] <XboxUser> got a download link for one of them?
[10:43] <jthomas> no.  Go to KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager
[10:43] <jthomas> it'll ask for your password
[10:44] <XboxUser> there is no adept manager
[10:44] <XboxUser> nvm there is :)
[10:44] <Sanne> XboxUser: if you have some time later, you might also want to have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[10:44] <jthomas> once in Adept, go to Adept menu -> Manager Repositories
[10:44] <jthomas> and put a Checkmark in all of the available ones.
[10:44] <jthomas> Then Save/Close and (back in regular Adept) click Reload.
[10:45] <jthomas> Then search for VNC or whatever and rightclick-> install, then at the top select Install
[10:45] <jthomas> sorry, at the top (once all done almost) click Apply Changes
[10:46] <jthomas> and its not Reload either, its 'Fetch Updates'
[10:47] <XboxUser> it says (Converted from a rpm package by alien version 8.65.)
[10:47] <XboxUser> installed
[10:47] <XboxUser> wtf, i can't see it anywhere
[10:47] <XboxUser> how do i uninstall it?
[10:48] <jthomas> right-click _> remove or something
[10:48] <jthomas> then Apply Changes
[10:48] <jthomas> then search again and install the Ubuntu one (not from RPM)
[10:49] <Lega> Anybody particularly want to help me find out why my ethernet card isn't showing up, and yet for some reason lspci detects it correctly?
[10:49] <jthomas> Lega can you do 'sudo dhclient eth1' or something?
[10:49] <jthomas> or eth0 or eth2...
[10:50] <Lega> All I have is lo and ra1.
[10:50] <jthomas> that'll give it a DHCP address
[10:50] <jthomas> yes even if not listed, try it
[10:50] <Lega> Alright.
[10:50] <jthomas> or just 'sudo dhclient'
[10:51] <Lega> What should I be looking for?
[10:51] <Lega> That did something with my wireless card (ra1).
[10:51] <jthomas> "ethX bound to address <IP_ADDRESS>" or something
[10:51] <jthomas> ok then specify 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[10:52] <Lega> I just did: "Bind socket to interface: No such device"
[10:52] <XboxUser> I uninstalled tightvnc and now when i click request install, nothing happens
[10:52] <jthomas> does it say Install" in the Requested column?
[10:52] <XboxUser> nope
[10:52] <jthomas> ok then try to reload/fetch updates
[10:53] <Lega> I have no idea why it isn't automatically there... because when I lspci it shows: Ethernet controller: Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
[10:54] <XboxUser> jthomas it still says (Converted from a rpm package by alien version 8.65.) though, whatever that means
[10:54] <jthomas> is it still listed as installed, XboxUser?
[10:54] <XboxUser> nope
[10:55] <jthomas> in Linux there are source files (like the tar.gz that you had), there are Deb files (for Debian and Ubuntu), and there are RPMs (mostly for RedHat and SuSE).  They're all different, slightly (or majorly).  So to install a RPM on Ubuntu, it needs to be converted with a program named 'Alien'
[10:56] <jthomas> so somehow we need to get the RPM outta the system and have it install the proper Deb file
[10:56] <XboxUser> hmm, anyone know how to do that?
[10:57] <jthomas> can you right-click and select Purge, then Apply?
[10:58] <XboxUser> nope, don't let me select purge
[10:58] <gianluca> join/ #ubuntu-it
[10:59] <brad_> hey
[10:59] <brad_> does anyone here know a lot about wireless networking?
[10:59] <jthomas> XboxUser: can you go to a command line for me?
[10:59] <XboxUser> sure
[10:59] <XboxUser> what command though?
[10:59] <jthomas> when there let me know ;)
[10:59] <XboxUser> im there :)
[11:00] <jthomas> Konsole or XTerm or whichever
[11:00] <jthomas> ok
[11:00] <XboxUser> konsole
[11:00] <XboxUser> im in that one
[11:00] <tzanger> good afternoon...  has anyone run across youtube locking up the konqueror window?
[11:00] <tzanger> google videos, kaffeine... these work
[11:00] <tzanger> youtube though seems to always screw it up
[11:00] <jthomas> type 'sudo apt-get install tightvncviewer'
[11:00] <tzanger> I get the first few seconds, then a hard lock
[11:01] <jthomas> tzanger: i get lockups when leaving but never when playing...
[11:01] <tzanger> have to use xkill or wait for kde to figureout the app isn't responding and ask if I want to hang it
[11:01] <jthomas> type 'sudo apt-get install xtightvncviewer' (I had a typo)
[11:01] <tzanger> my gut instinct is that it's video card/x driver related, as the thinkpad I was using before did not have the problem
[11:01] <tzanger> it was using vesa driver, this pc is using i960
[11:02] <jthomas> eh, i don't know
[11:03] <deviance> Wow, installing Miro installs alot of other stuff :(
[11:03] <deviance> !miro
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about miro - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <jthomas> XboxUser: I was blocked from typing in that window :(
[11:03] <jthomas> !democracy
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <jthomas> !democracyplayer
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracyplayer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <deviance> :P
[11:03] <jthomas> bah
[11:04] <deviance> Its done now :D
[11:04] <jthomas> XboxUser: I was blocked from typing in that window :(  XboxUser you'll have to close Adept first
[11:04] <phanto1> kde4 beta instalation tutorial please
[11:05] <XboxUser> ah ok
[11:05] <jthomas> then 'sudo apt-get install xtightvncviewer'
[11:05] <Daisuke_Ido> jthomas: register your nick :)
[11:05] <jthomas> i know, i know
[11:06] <jthomas> i like the freedom ;)
[11:06] <XboxUser> Ok I think it installed it, where do I find it though?
[11:07] <jthomas> it should be in KMenu, but at a command line you can launch it also with 'xtightvncviewer' or at the [Alt] [F2]  (run) prompt
[11:08] <jthomas> XboxUser: almost all software in Linux is installed via a Package Manager like Adept; there are other ways but they get more complex each one...
[11:08] <XboxUser> ah ok that works , i need the server though :(
[11:08] <jussi01> phanto1: see the topic
[11:08] <jthomas> ok then -- 'sudo apt-get install tightvncserver' (no X in this name)
[11:08] <jthomas> or try it in Adept
[11:08] <jon_> would anyone possibly know why my computer gives me a black screen half the time i boot it? ill restart it and its fine again.
[11:09] <jussi01> jthomas: whats wrong with krdc?
[11:10] <jthomas> i wasn't asked about it ;)
[11:10] <XboxUser> hmm, it installed the server but how do I open it/ configure it?
[11:10] <jussi01> heh
[11:11] <deviance> Whens the new Open Office entering the Repos?
[11:12] <jthomas> XboxUser: to start VNC server, at the command line type: tightvncserver
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> deviance: 2.3?
[11:12] <jthomas> deviance: a while i think, its not even out yet is it??
[11:12] <deviance> Yeah Release today
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> may already be available through feisty backports
[11:12] <jthomas> i thought it was a year away still or some BS
[11:12] <jthomas> oh!
[11:12] <deviance> No no
[11:12] <jthomas> wow i thought NEXT september!
[11:12] <jthomas> lol
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> it's been in gutsy's repos for at least a week or two
[11:12] <deviance> :P
[11:13] <XboxUser> jthomas I did that but it just says some lines, nothing to let me configure it or anything
[11:13] <deviance> Not in feistys yet
[11:13] <jthomas> XboxUser: it should ask for passwords so that you can later connect
[11:13] <Lega> YES!
[11:13] <Lega> Totally got my card installed.
[11:13] <jthomas> Lega: nice!  what it was?
[11:13] <XboxUser> yeah it did but what about everything else like ports etc, is it not like ultravnc on windows?
[11:14] <Lega> It turns out the card is detected, but unsupported. So I had to download the et131x drivers from sourceforge, compile them, and then insert them into modules.
[11:14] <Lega> At least, I think that is what I did.
[11:14] <jhutchins> XboxUser: It's not like windows.
[11:15] <Lega> http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.html <-- search for et131x and you'll see what I did.
[11:15] <XboxUser> damn, how do I do everything then like ports and stuff?
[11:15] <jthomas> sooorta... you can do that i text file.  At a command line type (and read) 'man tightvncserver' (or do some web searches)
[11:16] <Lega> Testing something real quick...
[11:16] <jhutchins> XboxUser: Suggest you read the manpage.
[11:18] <jhutchins> XboxUser: Seriously, if you want the standard defaults, just run it, but if you need to customize it then you should read up.
[11:19] <Lega> Am I still connected?
[11:20] <Lega> Grargh...
[11:20] <Lega> Well, I suppose I haven't gotten it completely figured out yet.
[11:22] <jokijo> hey
[11:24] <Lega> jthomas, might you have any idea why (after installing the drivers and eth0 is now showing up) that if i disable wireless, and yet am connected wired with my ethernet card to the router, why my internet connection fails?
[11:24] <Lega> My router is connected to a switch and my computer is connected to that switch.
[11:24] <jthomas> does it have an IP?
[11:25] <jthomas> an IP address?
[11:26] <Daisuke_Ido> i would like, if i may, to call for a moment of silence on behalf of the family of James Oliver Rigney Jr, aka Robert Jordan
[11:26] <hydrogen> !offtopic
[11:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:27] <hydrogen> daed guys are not on topic for this channel
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> repect is never offtopic.
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> but thank you for the respect you showed for a COUPLE seconds before throwing that out there.
[11:27] <hydrogen> only long enough to read what you said and type a response.
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and you continue to keep this offtopic, so i would direct you to #kubuntu-offtopic, where you can continue this discussion.
[11:28] <tsb> If I go to "Keyboard Layout", "Layout Variant" is empty. And under avaliable layouts, all seem to be qwerty. I'd like to try dvorak
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> without me, of course
[11:28] <hydrogen> I'll pass.
[11:29] <LegatoB> Argh, stupid Ubuntu network again.
[11:29] <LegatoB> Anyway, yeah, this is Lega.
[11:30] <LegatoB> jthomas- I did the sudo dhclient eth0 command, and it gave the card an ipaddress of <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:30] <LegatoB> Which is a valid IP in reference to the way my router gives out IPs. My other wireless hub gives out 192.168.1.x IP addresses.
[11:31] <jhutchins> LegatoB: So what's the problem?
[11:32] <LegatoB> Well, let me check something... the problem might have fixed itself.
[11:33] <junkeR> hello, where can I get help when running SimCity 2000 under wine using Kubuntu?
[11:33] <LegatoB> Hey... it is fixed, I think. :D
[11:33] <LegatoB> I just unchecked my wireless card in Network, and I still have internet.
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> junkeR: winehq.org
[11:33] <LegatoB> So that means I'm getting internet through the cable.
[11:34] <LegatoB> Awesome. :D
[11:34] <jthomas> good!
[11:34] <jthomas> sorry i was gone for a wile
[11:35] <LegatoB> 'tis alright, thanks for your help. ^^
[11:35] <junkeR> thanks Daisuke_Ido
[11:35] <jthomas> happy to see its working!  pass the help along some time ;)
[11:36] <LegatoB> Most definitely.
[11:37] <XboxUser> whats the command to uninstall tightvnc viewer/server? don't work
[11:38] <poison--> tried adept?
[11:38] <jussi01> sudo apt-get remove tightvncserver xtightvncviewer
[11:38] <jthomas> 'sudo apt-get remoev xtightvncviewer tightvncserver'
[11:39] <jthomas> um yeah XboxUser i have typos, look at jussi01
[11:39] <Lega> Does what have an IP address?
[11:39] <poison--> lmao
[11:40] <poison--> ??
[11:40] <poison--> me so horny
[11:40] <JimmyDee> what an incredibly geeky thing to say in a place like this
[11:41] <JimmyDee> anyone use mwavem?
[11:42] <Daisuke_Ido> what is it?
[11:42] <JimmyDee> its the driver for the mwave hybrid soundcard / modem
[11:43] <JimmyDee> which of course does not work on my lapto;p
[11:43] <poison--> what does lspci show?
[11:44] <JimmyDee> checking
[11:44] <lozzy> Hi. I'm trying to install a backports package for HAL (I'm having issues with my DVD+RW, I've read a bug report stating it's fixed in this release). When running aptitude on the pkg I get: 'E: Unknown pattern type: f'. I have no experience with .deb distros whatsoever. What does this error mean?
[11:45] <Lega> *sigh*
[11:45] <JimmyDee> 00:05.0 Multimedia Controller: IBM3780DSP [Mwave}]
[11:46] <Lega> My network card is so screwy.
[11:46] <JimmyDee> hello again lega
[11:46] <Lega> Hello JimmyDee.
[11:47] <Lega> Alright: When I disable my wireless card, I can't surf the web, connect to IRC, connect to AIM/Yahoo/MSN or anything, but my torrents still continue to go on.
[11:47] <Lega> And I show activity on my eth0 connection through one of my Karamba widgets...
[11:48] <coreymon77> Lega: thats wierd
[11:48] <poison--> really weird
[11:48] <Lega> coreymon77: I know, I just can't figure it out. :E
[11:48] <coreymon77> Lega: w/e, not that big a deal
[11:48] <poison--> seems like a dns issue
, i ment modem brand and model
[11:49] <Lega> coreymon77: Well, it kind of is an issue... because I'd like to use this laptop at other people's houses, and I'd like to connect through wired there.
[11:49] <coreymon77> Lega: shut off the torrents then
[11:50] <Lega> Hmm, I'll try that... brb.
[11:50] <JimmyDee> should work wired even with the network card on
[11:50] <coreymon77> ya, wired doesnt really matter
[11:50] <JimmyDee> mine does
[11:50] <poison--> had dat issue with knoppix
[11:51] <JimmyDee> poison: ibm thinkpad 770 mwave modem
[11:51] <poison--> wireless worked fine, but wired couldnt even get ip from dhcp
[11:51] <JimmyDee> modem query timed out
[11:51] <poison--> k, just a sec
[11:51] <JimmyDee> kppp
[11:52] <poison--> ttySL0?
[11:54] <Lega> And I'm back. :p
[11:54] <poison--> JimmyDee, did u check tuxmobil.com?
[11:54] <tinin> Hi, I get a pop up window all the time saying: It was not possible to find the MIME type application/octet-stream. How could I fix this, please?
[11:55] <Lega> Okay, so, torrents work, but nothing else does, when my wireless card is disabled.
[11:56] <poison--> http://tuxmobil.org/ibm.html
[11:56] <poison--> Lega, tried wlan down, eth0 up?
[11:58] <Lega> Let me try it.
[12:01] <poison--> k, time to go home
[12:01] <poison--> l8rm guys
[12:01] <VirtualPC> hi
[12:01] <VirtualPC> Hello room
[12:02] <VirtualPC> hello zoe
[12:03] <LegatoB> And Ubuntu IRC hates my nickname, apparently.
[12:04] <LegatoB> poison-- torrents work, but nothing else does.
[12:04] <LegatoB> With the ra1 (my wireless) down and eth0 up. :\
[12:05] <LegatoB> Oddly enough, now I'm showing all my download/upload going through my eth0, and only 1kb of download going through wireless.
[12:10] <Lega> I hate Linux. >.<
[12:10] <JimmyDee> hey now, we'll make you use vist
[12:10] <JimmyDee> a
[12:10] <Lega> No, anything but that!
[12:10] <jhutchins> LegatoB: Probably didn't reset your routing table.
[12:10] <Lega> I'm sorry!
[12:11] <Lega> How might I do that, jhutchins?
[12:11] <jhutchins> LegatoB: Does /etc/init.d/network restart bring the wireless back up?
[12:11] <JimmyDee> f o r m a _
[12:11] <tazgodx> whats hte terminal command to veiw installed wireless cards?
[12:11] <Lega> The wireless isn't down right now.
[12:11] <JimmyDee> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[12:11] <jhutchins> tazgodx: ifconfig, iwconfig, iwlist, depending on what you want to see.
[12:12] <jhutchins> Lega: Type 'sudo root' and ponder the results.
[12:13] <Lega> Command not found is not really something to ponder.
[12:13] <JimmyDee> we had a technician nicknamed 404 in our shop
[12:13] <jhutchins> Lega: Sorry, brainfart, it's route.
[12:14] <Lega> XD
[12:15] <Lega> jhutchins: Okay... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37738/
[12:16] <JimmyDee> he's linuxed his router, good man
[12:16] <Lega> What now?
[12:16] <JimmyDee> youve installed dd-wrt on your router
[12:16] <JimmyDee> good job
[12:16] <Lega> Oh, that was only on one of them.
[12:16] <Lega> That isn't the main router.
[12:17] <Lega> That dd-wrt router connects to a switch, which my main router connects to.
[12:17] <Lega> the <IP_ADDRESS> router is the one that supplies my internet.
[12:17] <JimmyDee> linux my toaster!
[12:18] <Lega> Maybe I should install dd-wrt on my main router... Hmm.
[12:18] <Lega> Nah, one thing at a time.
[12:18] <ScorpKing> Lega: there is a channel for dd-wrt and related wireless issues on irc.jawug.za.net - #wnet
[12:19] <JimmyDee> thats not his issue at this point scorp
[12:19] <Lega> Well, that isn't what is giving me problems... But thanks, I'll check that later.
[12:19] <lozzy> Is there anyone here who can help me with an Audio CD issue with Kubuntu?
[12:19] <ScorpKing> :)
[12:19] <JimmyDee> its that hippy longhair music you've been listening to lozzy
[12:19] <lozzy> lol.
[12:19] <lozzy> I would be listening to it if KDE would load the cd.
[12:19] <Lega> So, does anyone have any idea what my problem could be? I'm still at a loss- the fact that I was able to install my network card is amazing in and of itself.
[12:20] <JimmyDee> will the miracles never cease
[12:20] <JimmyDee> his network card works even when its off
[12:20] <JimmyDee> and he's bellyachin
[12:20] <Lega> I heard angels when I did it- I swear.
[12:21] <JimmyDee> thats the lsd from 1986 man, its back
[12:21] <Lega> Man, I wasn't even alive in 1986.
[12:21] <JimmyDee> I was, it was a good year
[12:21] <Lega> So I've heard.
[12:21] <JimmyDee> its me birthday
[12:21] <JimmyDee> 38 of em
[12:22] <Lega> It is my birthday tomorrow.
[12:22] <lozzy> holy cow, I fixed it. lol
[12:22] <Lega> 18 of em.
[12:22] <lozzy> It's arts, the evil thing.
[12:22] <Lega> Arts is a horrible, horrible thing.
[12:22] <JimmyDee> we've been there done that
[12:22] <Lega> Anyway... no ideas?
[12:23] <JimmyDee> thankie
[12:23] <ScorpKing> Lega: what's the problem. just got here.
[12:23] <Lega> Oh.
[12:23] <lozzy> happy birthday.
[12:23] <emilsedgh> Happy Birthday to you Lega and JimmyDee
[12:23] <Lega> ^_^
[12:23] <thomas__> what http server should I install on my linux machine?
[12:24] <JimmyDee> Wanted: Birthday Gift = Girl who uses Ubuntu
[12:24] <JimmyDee> a p a c h e
[12:24] <JimmyDee> 2
[12:24] <thomas__> alright
[12:25] <Lega> ScorpKing: I just installed my ethernet card. So I have ra1 (wireless) and eth0 (ethernet). Whenever I sudo ifconfig ra1 down, disabling the wireless, I cannot: a)surf the web b)connect to IRC/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/* c) do anything internet related. HOWEVER, my torrents still download (showing that I'm connected to the internet somehow), and one of my Karamba widgets shows that Eth0 is downloading/uploading.
[12:26] <JimmyDee> is it plugged in?
[12:26] <Lega> JimmyDee: Strangely, that is what I wanted for my birthday too. :[ Or at least one who knows how to fandangle a computer.
[12:26] <Lega> JimmyDee: ... Yes. Yes it is.
[12:26] <JimmyDee> I got a linux using girlfriend, I made her use it
[12:27] <JimmyDee> but she's redhat....boooo
[12:27] <Lega> Haha. XD
[12:27] <thomas__> what would be the best package for apache2?
[12:27] <JimmyDee> ummm apache2
[12:27] <Lega> ScorpKing: Any idea as to what is up?
[12:27] <thomas__> cause theres apache2 ssl
[12:27] <thomas__> perl
[12:27] <ScorpKing> Lega: if you get dns from ra1 and eth0 the dns from the last one that you connect will be used. after disableing ra1 just ifup and ifdown eth0 to get new dns from it. that works for me.
[12:27] <JimmyDee> if you want ssl install ssl
[12:28] <Lega> Uno momento.
[12:28] <thomas__> JimmyDee: i don't know if I want it though :S?? do i?
[12:28] <JimmyDee> do you want https://
[12:28] <JimmyDee> ?
[12:28] <thomas__> https?
[12:28] <JimmyDee> secure transactions
[12:28] <thomas__> hmm i don't know, but I want a secure webserver..........
[12:29] <JimmyDee> k, do you have a certificate?
[12:29] <thomas__> for what
[12:29] <JimmyDee> from verisign or other such agency?
[12:29] <thomas__> nope
[12:30] <JimmyDee> just install apache2
[12:30] <thomas__> okie dokie
[12:30] <JimmyDee> I swear I just saw his name as PhishFart
[12:33] <jokijo> hello?
[12:33] <JimmyDee> hell
[12:33] <JimmyDee> o
[12:34] <jokijo> after i rebooted my desktop resolution changed
[12:34] <ScorpKing> Lega: any news?
[12:35] <jokijo> now its not even giving me the option to set it to the screen size it was before
[12:35] <jokijo> any ideas?
[12:36] <thomas__> JimmyDee:
[12:36] <JimmyDee> yes?
[12:36] <thomas__> JimmyDee: how do I know if it is installed? I know it's installed
[12:36] <thomas__> JimmyDee: but it doesn't show in programs internet folder?
[12:36] <vas>  terminal
[12:36] <JimmyDee> goto a browser and goto http://localhost
[12:37] <JimmyDee> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:37] <thomas__> JimmyDee: alright but for all other applications, aren't they suppost to show up in k menu? If not then how can u tell what you installe?
[12:37] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:37] <JimmyDee> apache is a server, not an application
[12:38] <JimmyDee> it lives in console land
[12:38] <thomas__> JimmyDee: cool console land
[12:38] <jokijo> after a reboot my screen size went crazy
[12:38] <JimmyDee> define crazy
[12:38] <thomas__> instane
[12:38] <jokijo> lol
[12:38] <thomas__> insane
[12:39] <dappermuis> anyone who's looking for apache in KMenu shouldn't be setting up apache (imho)
[12:39] <JimmyDee> I'm that, but I dont affect your screen resolution
[12:39] <thomas__> dappermuis: shut your trap no offence
[12:39] <ScorpKing> hi dappermuis. lol