[12:15] <botxj> im looking for way of making ubuntu to read my USB flash drive FAT32
[12:16] <Kr4t05> botxj: It should mount and open it automatically.
[12:16] <Kr4t05> Linux has few to no problem read and writing in FAT32.
[12:16] <botxj> Kr4t05: it never does
[12:16] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[12:17] <Kr4t05> Which the device pluged into the USB slot, type this command from Konsole.
[12:17] <liviux> hi all dear friends. I' ve got a little problem with bash. What does means "C compiler cannot create executables" ? What's wrong with configure?
[12:17] <botxj> in windows or even in my PS2 the flash drive is on, when i'm in linux it's not, i know because it has an LED light that tells me when it's on, or writing data
[12:17] <Sanne> liviux: maybe you need the package build-essential?
[12:17] <Kr4t05> botxj: do this in a command line. "dir /dev/ | grep sd"
[12:17] <botxj> ok
[12:18] <liviux> and what are they?
[12:18] <Kr4t05> !info build-essential
[12:18] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:18] <Sanne> liviux: was that for me?
[12:18] <botxj> Kr4t05: that command just gave me some device names
[12:18] <liviux> yes. Do you know essential package name?
[12:19] <Kr4t05> botxj: do you know which one might correspond with your flash drive?
[12:19] <liviux> are maybe cc, gcc...?
[12:19] <MidMark> hi I have a problem
[12:19] <botxj> Kr4t05: i have no idea, i dont think my flash drive is even on
[12:19] <MidMark> I have set that korganizer start at boot always
[12:19] <Kr4t05> liviux: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:19] <MidMark> but now I cannot stop it
[12:19] <Kr4t05> botxj: Hrm...
[12:19] <botxj> my flash drive turns off when it boots into linux
[12:19] <MidMark> the option is broken
[12:20] <liviux> oh that's great! Thank you very much
[12:20] <botxj> my flash drive is a Memorex Travel drive 512MB
[12:20] <Sanne> look what Kr4t05 and ubotu wrote. The package name is build-essential, it is a meta-package for essential stuff you need to build software from sources.
[12:20] <Kr4t05> botxj: There might be something on the forums about it. Have you tried more than one USB hub?
[12:20] <botxj> i've tried multiple hubs on my motherboard
[12:20] <Kr4t05> botxj: Hrm...
[12:20] <botxj> i hope that's what you mean by hubs
[12:20] <Sanne> liviux: if you want to compile stuff, you need it
[12:21] <Kr4t05> botxj: Yeah.
[12:21] <botxj> i have 6 usb ports
[12:21] <liviux> ok thank you so much
[12:22] <botxj> hda4       ptybc  ptyr1  ptyw6  stdout      ttyb3  ttyq8   ttysd   ttyy2
[12:22] <botxj> md18       ptyd8  ptysd  ptyy2  tty32       ttycf  ttyS10  ttyu9   ttyze
[12:22] <botxj> those are the devices that command printed out
[12:22] <Kr4t05> botxj: Er...
[12:22] <Kr4t05> Ah, ok.
[12:22] <Kr4t05> botxj: Do this. "lsusb -v" and paste the results to a pastebin. :)
[12:24] <botxj> Kr4t05: alright
[12:24] <Kr4t05> botxj: I would assume your on Dapper?
[12:26] <botxj> is Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper? or Badger? i forget
[12:26] <Kr4t05> 6.06 is Dapper, yes.
[12:26] <botxj> then yeah, dapper
[12:27] <botxj> you know for a few months, pastebin never works for me
[12:27] <botxj> it hangs when you try to post something
[12:27] <botxj> pastebin.com
[12:27] <Kr4t05> !pastebin
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:27] <Kr4t05> Use that one.
[12:27] <botxj> oh ok
[12:27] <botxj> wow, love the technology here in this network
[12:27] <Kr4t05> :)
[12:28] <Kr4t05> Ugh...
[12:28] <Kr4t05> 103MB KDE updates. ><
[12:28] <botxj> Kr4t05: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23561
[12:29] <Kr4t05> That's strange
[12:29] <Kr4t05> Do it again, with a 'sudo' on it.
[12:29] <botxj> ok
[12:33] <botxj> Kr4t05: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23562
[12:37] <botxj> whois botxj
[12:37] <aa> ..
[12:37] <botxj> i forgot the /
[12:38] <Vegeta^> I can't upload in kubuntu.. Is there a way to check what the problem is caused by?
[12:39] <Kr4t05> botxj: I don't know what to tell you about this one... According to this, the USB drive doesn't even exist. :P
[12:39] <Kr4t05> Are you comfortable with upgrading to Edgy?
[12:39] <aa> strange
[12:39] <aa> i can't claim my nick
[12:39] <botxj> i know Kr4t05 like i said, my usb flash drive is off
[12:40] <botxj> even though it's plugged in
[12:40] <botxj> it has an LED light on it that says so
[12:40] <Kr4t05> botxj: Ok... I asked, are you willing to upgrade to Edgy?
[12:40] <botxj> during BIOS boot time, it's on scanning itself, when windows boots, it's always on, but when linux boots, it turns itself off
[12:41] <botxj> nah, im not willing to do that, but if Edgy has a live mode, ill try it
[12:41] <bee2> im on kubuntu live cd now...
[12:41] <Kr4t05> botxj: Only if you download the CD for it.
[12:41] <botxj> i know
[12:41] <botxj> i have broadband, and DVDRW's so it dont matter
[12:42] <bee2> i cant boot into kubuntu...i went to install windows xp on a spare bit of my HD...forgot to partition a bit off, i quit the windows installer at the HD partitioning screen, and now it says   no operating system found
[12:42] <bee2> i assume its the master boot record
[12:42] <bee2> can i change it somehow? so i can get back to my kubuntu :S
[12:43] <baleado> oi
[12:43] <liviux> sorry to interrupt, but I have a new strange output from shell: "X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" does anyone know if I can resolve it?
[12:43] <Kr4t05> !grub
[12:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:43] <bee2> :D ty
[12:44] <fdoving> liviux: install the xorg-dev package.
[12:44] <Kr4t05> bee2: You may have screwed yourself. :P
[12:44] <liviux> I'll try thanks
[12:44] <bee2> Kr4t05: i quit using my computer for a while then if i have
[12:44] <bee2> Kr4t05: that will p me off too much mate
[12:45] <Kr4t05> bee2: Aw, it's not big. We've all hosed an install with something stupid.
[12:45] <bee2> Kr4t05: slightly different with me
[12:45] <Kr4t05> Ok...
[12:48] <bee2> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[12:48] <bee2> Error 15: File not found
[12:53] <bee2> how do you find where your /boot is at
[12:53] <bee2> i cant remember which hard drive my linux boot is on
[12:53] <bee2> disc info doesnt show me either
[12:54] <obf213> Kr4t05: you think you can help me fix my computer
[12:54] <obf213> it does all sorts of wierd stuff
[01:00] <Vegeta^> What could the reason be to, that the upload speed in KTorrent is going up and down to 0, and constantly does that, by going up and down..?
[01:00] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[01:00] <Kr4t05> obf213: like what?
[01:01] <Sanne> larson9999: it does indeed :)
[01:01] <Vegeta^> But doing anything is a pain in the ass at the begining with Linux!
[01:02] <Kr4t05> !language
[01:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:02] <larson9999> Vegeta^: it can be tough but try getting something that doesn't ship with an xp driver to work in windows
[01:03] <larson9999> time to install this tv card see you in a bit
[01:03] <Sanne> Vegeta^: it is hard at first, but mostly only because everything is new. If you keep at it, you'll learn and after some time might love it. I did :)
[01:04] <Kr4t05> If more hardware makers (and codec folks) were willing to legally allow their drivers to be used by the developers, Linux would be much more widely adopted. That, and some real advertisement.
[01:05] <Kr4t05> I still use VMware for one or two pieces of hardware that won't work in Linux.
[01:05] <Vegeta^> Sanne: and larson9999: True it's hard, but IMO it's way more fun doing things in Linux, than windows ;). And there are (many!) things in Linux, that are just better than in windows.
[01:06] <Sanne> Vegeta^: yes, it is, and there are :)
[01:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Ubuntu isn't hard
[01:06] <Vegeta^> Admiral_Chicago: It is for a newbie like me :)
[01:06] <Admiral_Chicago> its frustrating because most of the answers to your question are quite obvious
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Vegeta^, i learned it in about aw eek
[01:07] <botxj> i'm on my way to installing XGL on my ubuntu
[01:07] <botxj> cant wait for that
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> a week*
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> botxj, i liked it
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> err like it
[01:07] <Vegeta^> So you can answer the Q i had right before?
[01:07] <botxj> lol
[01:07] <[Relic] > how do you install a module?
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Vegeta^, is it going up and down or just saying it is
[01:07] <[Relic] > or what conf am I looking for  :)
[01:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Ktorrent would tell me it was not going but it really was
[01:08] <Admiral_Chicago> [Relic] , what are you trying to do
[01:08] <[Relic] > install a module for a cheapie webcam
[01:08] <Vegeta^> Admiral_Chicago: What do you mean? The speed is oscillating, I can read that from the speedoemter...
[01:10] <[Relic] > find file shows the .ko files in the drivers exist and the usb list shows the device so I need to figure out how to mkae certain the module for the driver activates each time I boot
[01:10] <Vegeta^> Admiral_Chicago: I have opened the UPD port, it helpede a little but the oscillation didn't stop. Do I need a range of UDP ports open?
[01:10] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i don't know really
[01:10] <Vegeta^> Openede the UPD port*
[01:10] <Admiral_Chicago> to Vegeta and [Relic]
[01:10] <[Relic] > :)
[01:11] <Vegeta^> lol
[01:12] <reagleBRKLN> is there a tool that will give me a textual version of a directory tree?
[01:13] <ep> Help: Udating from Breezy to Dapper. I edited sources.list, changed everything to 'dapper'.  Then ran update (no errorsl)  Ran dist-upgrade which downloaded everything,  hummed along no errors...
[01:14] <ep> Got to a prompt about kdm and I elected to stop X . It did, I got the text shell and never could get back. Had to reboot and startx wouldn't work.  How screwed am I?
[01:15] <ep> I never got any errors.
[01:15] <Kr4t05> BRB, reboot, lol
[01:16] <ep> I'm in windows now btw
[01:16] <botxj> hey i love windows :P
[01:16] <bee2> omg
[01:23] <obf213> why does the right click on my usb mouse all of a sudden not work?
[01:24] <ep> one problem, startx couldnt load the nvida drivers so what do I change in the xorg.conf file to use the generic drivers?
[01:24] <obf213> im having major reboot problems, my shut down seems to be diffrent everytime, and the computer never restarts
[01:26] <flukej-walker> obf213: backup, wait till full edgy release, reinstall
[01:26] <bee2> Kr4t05
[01:26] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: I agree.
[01:26] <bee2> right...i can reinstall, because all of my data is on a storage disk which is unaffected :P
[01:26] <Kr4t05> bee2: yo?
[01:26] <bee2> im on kde at the moment
[01:26] <obf213> flukej-walker: wht files should i backup
[01:26] <bee2> my friend said he wont help me with linux unless i use gnome
[01:26] <bee2> lol
[01:27] <flukej-walker> obf213: I would back up my /usr/ files, /home/, and anything you want to see again
[01:27] <ep> when is edgy released?
[01:27] <flukej-walker> i beleive its Oct. 26th
[01:27] <lupine_85> !schedule
[01:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:27] <flukej-walker> !Edgy
[01:28] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:28] <obf213> ok, but will that fix my reboot errors
[01:28] <flukej-walker> it should
[01:28] <obf213> i think ill just wait until abattoir or something gets on
[01:28] <obf213> i never should messed wt] ith sysv
[01:29] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[01:29] <[Relic] > that didn't work :(
[01:29] <flukej-walker> ep: to edit your xorg.conf, I would load up a LiveCD so I could have a nice graphic way to see what I was screwing up
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ep, or do sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <Admiral_Chicago> DAPP support for Amarok!
[01:37] <ep> Can only boot to console, startx complains on about the nvidia drives.  To switch to the free nv drivers do I just change "nvdia" to "nv" in xorg.conf?
[01:38] <ep> My 'breezy' update didn't go well :(
[01:38] <arcasa> Hey guys. I installed FireFox (Windows version) With WINE... It runs (Criminally bad fonts though) I installed the flash plugin that FireFox downloads and installs on its own.. Now flash plays, but at maybe one frame every 2 seconds and has no sound... Please help me :)
[01:38] <ketsugi> Are there any really good KDE-centric Linux distros?
[01:38] <ep> wasn't breezy
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ep
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ep, yes
[01:39] <flukej-walker> is there a way to see all programs you have installed?
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> arcasa, there isn't much we can do about that
[01:39] <flukej-walker> arcasa: why do it through WINE?
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> flukej-walker, no flash 9
[01:39] <flukej-walker> ah
[01:40] <arcasa> Because I thought with WINE you could get flash 9 to work and therefore have sound and decent flash
[01:40] <flukej-walker> when it works at more than 2 fps
[01:40] <arcasa> Seeing as flash and Steam are the two things I miss when I switched from windows.
[01:41] <Sanne> flukej-walker: to see all programs you have installed with apt/adept/synaptic/dpkg, you can do: dpkg -l
[01:42] <Sanne> flukej-walker: or better: COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l
[01:42] <Yoguess> can someone help me please?
[01:43] <ace> how do i move some files into the root file folder
[01:45] <Yoguess> i am using kubuntu, have 2 harddrives, 1st drive has kubuntu, swap and / partitions
[01:45] <Yoguess> and also a partition for storage
[01:46] <angasule> !xgl
[01:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:46] <Yoguess> second drive is all for my personal files (backup, storage, downloads)
[01:46] <Yoguess> hda3 and hdb1, I created and formatted them with ext3
[01:46] <[Relic] > what is the command to tell which kernel modules are running
[01:47] <RazvanS> uname --help
[01:47] <Yoguess> i also created mount point in /mnt/hda3 and /mnt/hdb1
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, what do you want to do
[01:47] <Yoguess> i am trying to auto mount the partitions
[01:48] <Yoguess> but before that they should be working right now
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, okay not tell me this: /hda3 is what file system and same for hdb1
[01:48] <Yoguess> but on 1 drive i get access denied error when i try to write a file to it
[01:48] <Yoguess> they both are ext3
[01:49] <Yoguess> and 1 partition wont let me access it at all
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> put your /etc/fstab in there
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> and send it back to me with the link
[01:51] <ace> im running ubuntu dapper and im wondering how do i put files in the root folder on hda1
[01:51] <ditte> hi
[01:51] <Yoguess> you want the actual file, cut and paste or screenshot?
[01:52] <ace> cut and paste
[01:52] <ditte> ok, keep in mind I'm a newbie, don't be too harsh on me, please
[01:52] <ditte> I have a question
[01:52] <ditte> I have just apt-got gimp
[01:52] <ditte> how, erh, do I open it?
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> ace, you can't do that as a user
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i think you need to be sudo
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> ditte, open up K menu
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> the little K in the panel
[01:53] <ditte> Admiral_Chicago: you're a genius:)
[01:53] <ace> i dont know how else to do it
[01:53] <Yoguess> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23566
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm going to get yelled at for this but...
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ace, go to run command and type kdesu konqueror
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ditte, you find itL
[01:55] <ditte> Admiral: yup, I did, thanks
[01:55] <ditte> a slightly less stupid question
[01:55] <ditte> does anybody use quanta?
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23567
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> try that
[01:56] <ace> it says that there is no such command
[01:57] <Ash-Fox> Gah, where was that option to disable icons on the desktop pager?
[01:57] <Ash-Fox> (Permamently, so I don't have todo it each login)
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu konqueror from run command?
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> in the K menu
[01:58] <ace> k menu?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> the thing with the little K
[02:01] <Yoguess> to save in VI, its Esc then ":wq"???
[02:02] <shegman> yes
[02:03] <ace> i only have the terminal there
[02:05] <ditte> Youguess: only if you want to save. Otherwise, lose the "w"
[02:05] <Yoguess> admiral?
[02:05] <ditte> and write q! so it doesn't bother you
[02:05] <shegman> ace: i don't know why you want a root konqueror but type: alt+f2 and then kdesu konqueror
[02:05] <Yoguess> yes i figure out the problem ditte
[02:05] <Yoguess> admiral just help me edit fstab
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, yes?
[02:05] <Yoguess> but 1 of the line "/mnt//hda3"
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[02:06] <Yoguess> there are 2 slash
[02:06] <ace> ah
[02:06] <Yoguess> 1 right?
[02:06] <ditte> Youguess: brave of you to use vi, by the way...I had to use it in the 90's and drove me insane every time:)
[02:06] <ace> it says that it cant open it
[02:06] <ketsugi> How do I access the Gnome control panel from KDE?
[02:07] <Yoguess> we used vi and nano alot last year in my security class
[02:07] <Yoguess> which is good? recommended by u guys?
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23569
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, i use nano
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> ketsugi, you can't
[02:08] <ketsugi> Hm
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Gnome control panel is for GNOME,
[02:08] <ketsugi> So how can I adjust settings for Gnome applications?
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ketsugi, open up a new TTY
[02:08] <ketsugi> Like right now, antialiasing is off in my Gnome apps
[02:08] <ketsugi> I want to turn it on
[02:08] <ketsugi> font antialiasing, I mean
[02:09] <Yoguess> so i guess i should restart my pc for it to work properly now??
[02:11] <Sanne> ketsugi: you can start the gnome control application from a terminal or a run dialog, if you know it's name
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Yoguess, yes
[02:11] <ketsugi> hmm okay thanks
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i think so
[02:11] <Yoguess> thanks guys
[02:12] <ditte> is there an SDP client for kubuntu??
[02:12] <Sanne> ketsugi: you could type in konsole: gnome<tab><tab> to see all programs starting with gnome, and pick the one that looks promising :)
[02:12] <Yoguess> oh wait, another question
[02:12] <ketsugi> yeah I tried that
[02:12] <ketsugi> none of them look promising, though :/
[02:13] <Sanne> ketsugi: nothing with gnome and control in it's name?
[02:13] <Yoguess> 1 of the partition that i can access has nothing on it accept "lost&found" folder, its taking up 4gb
[02:13] <ketsugi> yeah. I'll ask around in #ubuntu
[02:13] <Kr4t05> BRB restart
[02:13] <Yoguess> is this normal?
[02:13] <lupine_85> Yoguess: stuff in lost and found hasn't been deleted, but the fs doesn't know where it should be
[02:14] <lupine_85> usually indicates corruption somewhere
[02:14] <Sanne> ketsugi: the name is gnome-control-center (i just looked). You might not have it installed. But if you install that, it might pull the half of Gnome to your system, so simulate first to know what you're getting into.
[02:14] <ketsugi> I think I might have uninstalled it :/
[02:14] <Yoguess> is there a way to fix this?
[02:15] <Sanne> ketsugi: if you don't mind any additional libs, you might try installing it anyway.
[02:15] <ketsugi> yeah I will
[02:15] <ketsugi> thanks
[02:15] <Sanne> ketsugi: you're welcome :)
[02:16] <arejaytee> how i install the latest flash into konqueror,?
[02:17] <Yoguess> i guess ill restart first to see if they work first
[02:17] <Yoguess> brb
[02:21] <shadowhywind> quick question, I have to start my computer with acpi=off so i can boot into linux, but becuase of that i lose my wireless and battery status anyone know of a fix?
[02:23] <yoguess> im back
[02:23] <james_xxx> lupine_85: are you out there?
[02:24] <yoguess> Admiral: I rebooted and both hda3 and hdb1 mounted, but I still cant write to them
[02:24] <bobbyyu> Can someone please help me with gcj?
[02:25] <yoguess> also both partitions have nothing on them but 4GB is being used
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> yoguess, hm
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[02:25] <yoguess> ok
[02:26] <javi_> hola
[02:26] <obf213> i need help geteting my computer to restart again, plus i need help with my wierd shut downs
[02:26] <bobbyyu> My Java Compiler returned this message:
[02:26] <bobbyyu> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.0/../../../../lib/crt1.o: In function `_start':../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:115: undefined reference to `main'
[02:26] <bobbyyu> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[02:26] <javi_> puedo hacer una consulta de un neofito en linux a alguien que hable espaol?
[02:27] <obf213> !spanish
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <obf213> !es
[02:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> yoguess, you sure its ext3?
[02:27] <javi_> thanks
[02:27] <yoguess> if this helps any, when I rebooted there was an error on boot up "The process for teh media protocol died unexpectedly"
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> type sudo fdisk -l in a konsole
[02:28] <yoguess> i'm looking at it in Gparted, it says ext3
[02:29] <ditte> bbl
[02:30] <yoguess> hdb1 "/dev/hdb1               1       14593   117218241   83  Linux"
[02:30] <yoguess> hda3"/dev/hda3            2603       19457   135387787+  83  Linux"
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> yoguess, okay
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i have no idea then
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[02:31] <bobbyyu> What does "undefined reference to `main'" mean?
[02:31] <yoguess> admiral: is it possible to redo this by deleting the partitions and creating them again?
[02:32] <yoguess> with different format this time?
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't the format is the problem
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> the problem is the options in fstab
[02:33] <Sanne> night all
[02:40] <obf213> Admiral you think you can help me get my reboot back
[02:40] <obf213> and a normal shutdown
[02:43] <obf213> can anybody help me with this
[02:43] <obf213> my shutdown is really abrupt an d my computer never actually restarts ifi shut it down under restart
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> obf213, what?
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> please rephrase that
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> i can try to help you as much as possible
[02:49] <obf213> ok
[02:49] <obf213> errm
[02:49] <obf213> i my computer doesnt reboot anymore
[02:49] <obf213> sorry restart
[02:49] <obf213> if i tell it to restart it just shuts down
[02:49] <obf213> also another problem.
[02:49] <obf213> normally linux goes through a lengthy process of shutdown a bunch of services, like ALSA etc.
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> about your reboot problem, i have no idea
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> obf213, yes
[02:50] <obf213> my computer for some reseason has stopped doing this
[02:50] <obf213> it just shows, usplash, then it says will now halt
[02:50] <obf213> so shut down is like 5 seconds
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> obf213, i have no idea
[02:50] <obf213> damn
[02:50] <obf213> well i can tell you how this all started
[02:50] <flukej-walker> does it cleany unmount your drives?
[02:50] <obf213> maybe that will help
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> looks like you have an init problem
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> !init
[02:50] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:51] <ubuntu> hey
[02:51] <ubuntu> somebody knows how to use kubuntu with SLI _
[02:51] <ubuntu> ?
[02:51] <obf213> Admiral_Chicago
[02:51] <obf213> i used this command: sudo sysv-rc-conf
[02:52] <obf213> to change that init stuff
[02:52] <ubuntu> are you sayin that to me_
[02:52] <ubuntu> ?
[02:52] <obf213> i didnt touch anything but programs, and this when all this trouble happened
[02:52] <obf213> ubuntu: no its toAdmiral_Chicago
[02:52] <ubuntu> ?
[02:52] <ubuntu> a
[02:52] <ubuntu> shit
[02:52] <ubuntu> please i need help
[02:52] <ubuntu_> My hard drive broke a while ago and I have been booting from a Live CD for a long time. Well I'm getting tired of not being able to do anything or there occasional lock up. So I was wondering if there is a way to us QTParted or any Partitioning tool to take a little chunk out of my Music HD. Its a 60 gig hard drive and I am only using 35 gigs of it. I just want to take 10 gigs off the whole Partition. If this is possible co
[02:52] <ubuntu_>  isn't possible could someone tell me of another way to do things?
[02:53] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: how is it formatted?
[02:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: Run QTParted/GParted/whatever from the live CD, and partition it. :)
[02:53] <obf213> does anyone here think they could take screen shots of their sysv rc config
[02:53] <obf213> so i can c where mine is messed up
[02:53] <ubuntu> help to use SLI
[02:53] <flukej-walker> NTFS is messy to resize partitions
[02:53] <ubuntu> please
[02:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: I think you can do this automatically with the installer.
[02:53] <ubuntu> :(
[02:54] <ubuntu_> I formatted it using ext3
[02:54] <ubuntu_> I saw use free space on the installer...but it uses all the free space not just 10 gigs...
[02:54] <flukej-walker> then you should be able to resize from LiveCD, and install from the CD
[02:55] <ubuntu_> How would I got along that with QTParted...
[02:55] <flukej-walker> you need to create a new partion on the drive
[02:55] <holley> why does the text on desktop icons wrap mid-word?  it kinda sucks...
[02:55] <ubuntu_> I noticed that was the only one on the Kubuntu Live CD..
[02:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: If you use the manual selection, you should be able to do that in the installer.
[02:55] <flukej-walker> I like the old school, text-based install
[02:56] <ubuntu_> I tried to click on resize in QTParted but it won't let me click...It says the Partition is active?
[02:56] <ubuntu_> Anyone have a clue on how to make it unactive?
[02:56] <flukej-walker> unmount it
[02:56] <flukej-walker> sudo umount /dev/hda*
[02:57] <holley> I guess I'll just force their text width up since auto is dumb...
[02:57] <flukej-walker> you are running from LiveCD
[02:57] <flukej-walker> it would be kinda bad to unmount the partiton your running from
[02:57] <flukej-walker> I don't think it will let you tho
[02:57] <ubuntu_> I died the umount /dev/hda* and it still says /dev/hda1 is active
[02:57] <ubuntu_> tried not died haha
[02:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: Refresh it.
[02:58] <ubuntu_> I exited out of the program and reloaded it after I umounted
[02:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh.
[02:58] <obf213> can anyone take a picture of their init files
[02:58] <obf213> and the run levels
[02:58] <[-KaSatKa-] > What package do i have to install to get php support on my apache2 server?
[02:58] <obf213> so i can see where mine are messed up
[02:59] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: did you place the number of the drive where the * is?
[02:59] <flukej-walker> sorry wasn't specific
[02:59] <ubuntu_> I figured it out but it gives me a pop up message asking me if I really want to make my drive unactive
[02:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> [-KaSatKa-] : Maybe php5?
[02:59] <ubuntu_> If I do that will I lose my data?
[02:59] <flukej-walker> nope
[02:59] <ubuntu_> right on
[02:59] <flukej-walker> your OK
[02:59] <flukej-walker> it will just unmount it and let you screw with it
[03:00] <flukej-walker> make sure you don't re-format tho
[03:00] <ubuntu_> Still won't let me resize it..
[03:00] <flukej-walker> might have been a good idea to backup...
[03:00] <flukej-walker> what are the options?
[03:00] <flukej-walker> you in QTparted?
[03:01] <ubuntu_> Property, Format and Delete
[03:01] <flukej-walker> oh
[03:01] <flukej-walker> harsh
[03:01] <ubuntu_> YEah I know..
[03:01] <Al-0op> Installing the new Kubuntu right now. Other than not liking the partitioner (I ended up using the micro-distro G-Parted) things seem to be going well. I'm sure I'll be back in a bit to ask more questions.
[03:01] <flukej-walker> AI-0op: good luck
[03:02] <ubuntu_> I guess I can just use the rest of the free space...
[03:02] <ubuntu_> Then just save the rest of my music on the home folder..
[03:02] <[-KaSatKa-] > CheeseBurgerMan: Still doesn't work
[03:02] <flukej-walker> do you really have 60 gigs of tunes?
[03:02] <ubuntu_> 35 gigs of music
[03:03] <ubuntu_> on a 60 gig drive
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> [-KaSatKa-]  If you want to use PHP/mySQL you may have to install php5-mysql
[03:03] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: what version of qtparted are you using?
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> [-KaSatKa-] : I'm not really too good with the server setups, I only use Kubuntu on a home machine. :)
[03:03] <ubuntu_> 0.4.5
[03:03] <flukej-walker> -cvs?
[03:03] <ubuntu_> yeah
[03:03] <flukej-walker> thats what I'm using
[03:03] <CVirus> I over written the Konqueror "Kubuntu web" profile ... how can I restore it back ?
[03:04] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: run mount in a Konsole
[03:04] <flukej-walker> is the drive you want listed as mounted?
[03:04] <flukej-walker> you will prob have to sudo to umount it
[03:05] <ubuntu_> my drive isn't there...
[03:05] <flukej-walker> ok
[03:05] <CVirus> I over written the Konqueror "Kubuntu
[03:05] <CVirus> oops
[03:05] <flukej-walker> is it listed in QTparted?
[03:05] <CVirus> I over written the Konqueror "Kubuntu web" profile ... how can I restore it back ?
[03:05] <ubuntu_> Yeah its /dev/hda1
[03:06] <flukej-walker> ext3?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> yeah
[03:06] <flukej-walker> right click it and it only gives the format/delete stuff?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> yep
[03:06] <ubuntu_> I don't get the resize option
[03:06] <flukej-walker> click property
[03:07] <flukej-walker> and see if it can "grow"
[03:07] <flukej-walker> is that the only partiton on the drive?
[03:07] <user__> hello,
[03:07] <ubuntu_> it says "it can grow left: 0.0307617 and right : 56533.4"
[03:07] <user__> I'm new to linux, and i'm having some problems installing flash player
[03:07] <ubuntu_> There is a /dev/hda2 extended and /dev/hda5 linux-swap
[03:08] <flukej-walker> ah
[03:08] <flukej-walker> there in the way
[03:08] <flukej-walker> whats in the others?
[03:08] <user__> can any one help me
[03:08] <Kr4t05> !flash > user__
[03:08] <flukej-walker> user_: whats up?
[03:08] <ubuntu_> Nothing its just a swap and some other one..
[03:08] <flukej-walker> the other one doesn't have any data?
[03:08] <ubuntu_> Nope
[03:08] <flukej-walker> how big is it?
[03:08] <flukej-walker> delete it
[03:09] <ubuntu_> 705.98 MBs
[03:09] <ubuntu_> Both of them are..
[03:09] <flukej-walker> ok
[03:09] <flukej-walker> swap and the other?
[03:09] <CVirus> I over written the Konqueror "Kubuntu web" profile ... how can I restore it back ?
[03:09] <ubuntu_> its extended
[03:09] <flukej-walker> delete it and the swap
[03:09] <ubuntu_> Alright I did..
[03:09] <flukej-walker> you can create a swap later
[03:09] <flukej-walker> now, can you resize the first one?
[03:09] <ubuntu_> Nope..
[03:10] <flukej-walker> go ahead and apply your changes
[03:10] <ubuntu_> I did...
[03:10] <flukej-walker> it should take a lil bt
[03:10] <flukej-walker> bit*
[03:11] <ubuntu_> I have the free space from those but I still can't resize
[03:11] <LinuxNT> Hi!... How to correct a pipe broken error in adept? I attempt to update but an error appears ever! Check it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23573
[03:12] <LinuxNT> Thanks in advance!
[03:12] <flukej-walker> ubuntu_: go into Adept/Synaptic and get yourself a copy of Gnome Partiton editor (Gparted)
[03:12] <ubuntu_> alright
[03:12] <flukej-walker> i find it easier
[03:13] <ubuntu_> That qtparted is confusing
[03:13] <flukej-walker> yes, but quite functional
[03:13] <flukej-walker> you can unmount from the program
[03:13] <ubuntu_> installing gparted now..
[03:14] <flukej-walker> it gives me the resize option
[03:14] <ubuntu_> qt does or gparted?
[03:14] <flukej-walker> gparted
[03:14] <flukej-walker> qt didn't
[03:14] <ubuntu_> Alright I'm 50% done lol
[03:14] <ubuntu_> 95 now haha
[03:14] <flukej-walker> fast connection
[03:14] <ubuntu_> Yeah lol
[03:14] <Al-0op> qt parted is OK, but I find it tends to fight me since I guess I make complicated partition schemes. Gparted just does it with no arguments.
[03:15] <ubuntu_> I get resize with gparted
[03:15] <flukej-walker> ok
[03:15] <flukej-walker> tred carefully
[03:15] <ace> any of you guys ever used cedega
[03:15] <flukej-walker> for you have journeyed into the realm of your data...
[03:15] <Kr4t05> I hate resizeing ext3
[03:15] <flukej-walker> ace: what is it?
[03:16] <flukej-walker> resizing NTFS is the worst
[03:16] <flukej-walker> for a dual boot
[03:16] <Kr4t05> You have to remove the journal to make it ext2, resize, then re-create a journal
[03:16] <flukej-walker> I ended up re-installing Windows and reisntalling in FAT32 for Read-write support
[03:16] <ace> its a windows emo for mostly playing games
[03:16] <flukej-walker> yeap
[03:16] <flukej-walker> and storing large files, like my DVD collection
[03:17] <flukej-walker> don't like lugging discs around
[03:17] <ubuntu_> sweet it worked
[03:17] <flukej-walker> awesome
[03:17] <ubuntu_> or so I think..
[03:17] <flukej-walker> you'll have to run an installer now
[03:17] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: I'm about to get a new external disk.
[03:17] <flukej-walker> does it show it?
[03:17] <ubuntu_> yellow is the used space right?
[03:17] <flukej-walker> correct
[03:17] <ubuntu_> Alright we are good then I think
[03:17] <flukej-walker> me too,Kr405, and a DVD burner
[03:18] <obf213> art i think i figured out wht the problem is but i dont know how to fix it
[03:18] <ubuntu_> I brought it down from 56 gigs to 46 gigs.
[03:18] <flukej-walker> ok
[03:18] <Kr4t05> Maybe around Xmas for the DVD burner. I can put that on my "Santa List."
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Does it usually take a long time?
[03:18] <flukej-walker> yes
[03:18] <Kr4t05> (Read: Mom and Dad, I want this.)
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Dvd burners are only like 40-50 dollars now..
[03:18] <obf213> is there a way to reorder rc6.d
[03:19] <Kr4t05> Yeah, I'm on part-time, though, so I'd have to actually save my money for one. :P
[03:19] <flukej-walker> i know, i figure the dual layers will drop even more when blu-ray/hd-dvd comes out for real
[03:19] <ubuntu_> I worked mininum wage in arizona...
[03:19] <ubuntu_> as a cart pusher...
[03:19] <ubuntu_> impossible to save money
[03:19] <flukej-walker> nice
[03:19] <flukej-walker> mostly goes to freakin gas prices
[03:19] <ubuntu_> I worked 46 hours and got a 184 dollar pay check
[03:20] <Riddick> wow, thats is not much
[03:20] <ubuntu_> 5.15 an hour
[03:20] <Riddick> that fica guy sucks  heh
[03:20] <obf213> that soooks
[03:20] <flukej-walker> thats barley legal
[03:21] <ubuntu_> thats mininum in arizona
[03:21] <Riddick> no, its legal   but how old are you / what kind of job is it?
[03:21] <ubuntu_> And for Waiters...
[03:21] <ubuntu_> in arizona its 2.13 an hour plus tips
[03:21] <Riddick> thats standard if you are a waiter that its 2.xx
[03:21] <buzzen> $2.13 an hour ?
[03:21] <buzzen> wow. thats like 1.40
[03:21] <flukej-walker> man.... ripped off
[03:21] <Riddick> waiter / waitress only get 2.xx because of the tips factor
[03:22] <flukej-walker> yeah, but alot of people don't tip
[03:22] <ubuntu_> Its not fair though that you have to live off peoples generousity
[03:22] <ubuntu_> And they tax your tips with your 2.13 an hour
[03:22] <Riddick> if you get minimum then you wouldn't expect tips     i personally wish waiters / waitresses got paid minimum since tipping has run amuck in the country    everyone expects a damn tip nowadays
[03:22] <ubuntu_> So if you make bank on tips, your check is gunna be shit haha
[03:22] <flukej-walker> i would have to slip a couple tens into my pocket
[03:23] <flukej-walker> yeah...did your resize finish?
[03:23] <soulrider> hi everyone =)
[03:23] <ubuntu_> If you work at a nice resturant where I live you'll walk out with 50 bucks a night
[03:23] <Riddick> but there are some waitresses / waiters that make / average 200 or more a night in tips
[03:23] <ubuntu_> I'm still on step one...
[03:23] <ubuntu_> When the snow birds come
[03:23] <flukej-walker> yeah, room service people get alot of tips
[03:23] <ubuntu_> Its gunna be like 150-200 a night
[03:23] <Riddick> i have some friends that worked in some busy places and they averged on bad nights 90
[03:23] <flukej-walker> like in the hundreds
[03:23] <Riddick> cash unclaimed
[03:24] <ubuntu_> I got an error and everything froze on the program
[03:24] <flukej-walker> oh.
[03:24] <flukej-walker> not good
[03:24] <ubuntu_> I can't read the error either..
[03:24] <flukej-walker> hopefuly your music is intact
[03:24] <flukej-walker> what all did you do?
[03:24] <ubuntu_> Of course it is...I gotta think positive
[03:24] <flukej-walker> just a resize?
[03:24] <ubuntu_> I just resized it then hit apply
[03:25] <flukej-walker> dang
[03:25] <Kr4t05> Wow, this logitech cordless mouse is so much lighter than the one I had before. :3
[03:25] <flukej-walker> try again, i guess
[03:25] <flukej-walker> i love wireless
[03:25] <ubuntu_> I would if I could close the god damn thing
[03:25] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: Yeah, my old set started losing signal, though, and fresh batteries didn't help. :/
[03:25] <Riddick> i got a new logitech bluetooth mouse today and its great
[03:25] <flukej-walker> Konsole pkill gparted
[03:26] <Kr4t05> The only Logitech product I have that doesn't work well with *nix is the webcam I bought recently.
[03:26] <ubuntu_> I got a cheap compaq mouse
[03:27] <flukej-walker> omg, I'm using a MS one now
[03:27] <flukej-walker> I should make it say Linux...
[03:27] <Kr4t05> flukej-walker: :o
[03:27] <ubuntu_> Sugar cubes take off like company markings
[03:27] <ubuntu_> I took off LG on my cellphone with it
[03:28] <Kr4t05> It doesn't scratch the plastic?
[03:28] <ubuntu_> Nope
[03:28] <flukej-walker> i took the "Designed for Win XP" off my Laptop
[03:28] <ubuntu_> I read it off some blog
[03:28] <flukej-walker> just peeled it though, nothin fanct
[03:28] <ubuntu_> HardOCP posted it on there front page
[03:28] <Kr4t05> In that case, I'm going to rub the logos off my super keys
[03:29] <Kr4t05> Maybe I'll actually write "Super" on them. :P
[03:29] <ubuntu_> haha
[03:29] <ubuntu_> I didn't believe it either till I watched the guy do it on the video in his blog
[03:29] <ubuntu_> Then I tried it
[03:29] <flukej-walker> I need to replace my Windows flagish ones with Tux...
[03:29] <Kr4t05> I'm going to ask logitech to make a conversion kit for non-windows systems.  I need one for -classroom tommorow
[03:34] <ubuntu_> Nothing will take me away from amarok..
[03:34] <flukej-walker> same here
[03:34] <flukej-walker> Amarok forever
[03:35] <DaSkreech> !language
[03:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:35] <ubuntu_> When I use Gnome I use Quod Libet just cause I don't like mixing qt and gtk...
[03:35] <ubuntu_> I like it clean
[03:35] <timi> hey can somebody do me a favor and open /etc/rc6.d/ in konqi and tell me the first 3 scripts they have are
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: K01gdm, K01kdm, K01usplash
[03:35] <flukej-walker> it even plays my tunes from the days when i used iTunes...
[03:35] <magic-1> hi alls
[03:35] <timi> cheeseburger man. thanks
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome. :)
[03:35] <timi> im guess u have gnome and kde.
[03:35] <ge_deTuc> hi every one
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Yup.
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Argh
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Ignoring the gdm script, they are K01kdm, K01usplash, and K11anacron
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Someone jsut sent me a docx file. What do I do with it?
[03:36] <ubuntu_> resizing takes forever man..
[03:36] <flukej-walker> i know
[03:36] <timi> CheeseBurgerMan: this helps alot
[03:36] <flukej-walker> docx?
[03:36] <timi> mine are kdm usplash then halt
[03:36] <ge_deTuc> I'm about make the kernel update that had troubles recently
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaSkreech: docx is the format used by Office 2007
[03:36] <timi> thaqt probably explains why my computer hasnt been shuttind down correctly....
[03:36] <flukej-walker> which kernal was that?
[03:37] <DaSkreech> CheeseBurgerMan: I'm aware of that
[03:37] <magic-1> that they know of kubuntu 6.10 ??
[03:37] <timi> CheeseBurgerMan: can you tell me where your Halt is located
[03:37] <timi> err K10 halt
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: hold on a minute.
[03:37] <magic-1> some already it has proven the new version of kubuntu?
[03:37] <ge_deTuc> 2.6.15-26
[03:38] <flukej-walker> hmm
[03:38] <flukej-walker> i wonder if thats the kernal I just upgraded today...
[03:38] <ge_deTuc> what im talking about is here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213420
[03:39] <flukej-walker> is that were it screws X?
[03:39] <ge_deTuc> don't know ... yet
[03:40] <ge_deTuc> the thing is that adept shows the kernel-image and the linux-restricted-modules packages ...
[03:40] <flukej-walker> i haven't added any other kernel stuff, so I think i'll be OK
[03:41] <ubuntu_> The new kernel update messes up X?
[03:41] <ge_deTuc> I dont know if I have to install kernel first and then the rest, or go in one step
[03:41] <flukej-walker> i don't think so, one did a while back, but they fixed it
[03:41] <ge_deTuc> I mean, do it all in one step, as any regular update
[03:42] <flukej-walker> thats what I did
[03:42] <flukej-walker> but I haven't restarted yet
[03:42] <ge_deTuc> a while back means ?
[03:42] <ge_deTuc> jeje
[03:42] <flukej-walker> it was two or three weeks
[03:42] <flukej-walker> ago
[03:42] <flukej-walker> i think
[03:42] <flukej-walker> all you did to fix it was update again
[03:42] <flukej-walker> not to bad
[03:42] <flukej-walker> just a little annoying
[03:43] <timi> hey can somebody check this file /etc/rc6.d/ and tell me where halt is located
[03:43] <Kr4t05> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822101010 <- Yes!
[03:43] <Kr4t05> Compatible OS: Windows 98/98SE/ME/2000/XP, Mac OS 9.x/10.x or higher, Linux Kernel versions 2.4 or later
[03:43] <Kr4t05> YAY!
[03:43] <timi> like at the end or w/e and can you tell me if its an S90Halt of K10halt
[03:43] <flukej-walker> I love the smell of new tech.
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: I have S90reboot
[03:44] <flukej-walker> and better yet, how clean it is
[03:44] <freewill> i just installed kubuntu 6.06(x86) and installed my drivers now i want to compile wine should i use gcc3.3 or 4??
[03:44] <ubuntu_> If I get the job at circuit city I'm gunna be rollin in new tech lol
[03:44] <ryanakca> anyone have a default sources.list kicking around? I need one for -classroom tommorow
[03:44] <flukej-walker> freewill: go with the newer one
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> !easysource
[03:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:44] <freewill> k
[03:44] <flukej-walker> unless it calls for something differant
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> ryanakca: You may be able to get that to give you a default one.
[03:44] <timi> Cheeseburger man
[03:45] <flukej-walker> freewill: are you new to linux, or just Kubuntu?
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Yes?
[03:45] <timi> you dont have halt there at all?
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Not in /etc/r6.d
[03:45] <ryanakca> CheeseBurgerMan: I don't want a source-o-matic one, unless they changed the default one to that since when I used dapper back in early august
[03:45] <timi> oooo. wierd i have it there. that could whts screwing up my shutdown
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> ryanakca: Sorry, I didn't realize they were different.
[03:46] <timi> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks
[03:46] <ryanakca> CheeseBurgerMan: Don't worry about it, sorry for snapping, btw
[03:47] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[03:47] <Kr4t05> I need to get XGL/Compiz working.. ><
[03:47] <ge_deTuc> I think I'm apt-get udating first
[03:47] <ubuntu_> I need a system that can actually run XGL/Compiz
[03:47] <ubuntu_> haha
[03:48] <flukej-walker> i need a server
[03:48] <ubuntu_> I have two Athlon MP 2600...
[03:48] <ubuntu_> And a MSI board for them
[03:48] <ubuntu_> Broken AGP slot though
[03:48] <Zamboulie> can someone help?
[03:48] <Zamboulie> i need to figure out how to install an audigy 2
[03:48] <flukej-walker> zs 2?
[03:48] <Zamboulie> i upgraded from onboard
[03:49] <Zamboulie> no its a value lol
[03:49] <Zamboulie> but its basically the same thing
[03:49] <flukej-walker> notebook?
[03:49] <Zamboulie> desktop
[03:49] <flukej-walker> ah
[03:49] <flukej-walker> I have a notebook
[03:49] <flukej-walker> should be about the same
[03:49] <Zamboulie> creative doesn't have linux drivers
[03:49] <ubuntu_> I heard you can softmod your audigy 2s to 4s..
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> ryanakca: Maybe this page? http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2006-January/001788.html
[03:49] <Zamboulie> :O
[03:49] <Zamboulie> how?
[03:49] <ge_deTuc> bye, hope to see you in a little wile
[03:49] <soulrider> is there a command to flush your rAM memory ?
[03:49] <ubuntu_> Google it...
[03:49] <soulrider> or somethign similar
[03:49] <ubuntu_> I read it on some website
[03:49] <ubuntu_> But I didn't go to the actaully website talking about
[03:50] <flukej-walker> Zamboulie: does ALSA recongnise it?
[03:51] <flukej-walker> Zamboulie: I guess a better question would be, does Kmix offer it as a mixer from the menu?
[03:52] <DaSkreech> How do I turn off rich text in kopete?
[03:53] <flukej-walker> DaSkreech: use Gaim
[03:53] <ubuntu_> Gaim doesn't look good in kde man..
[03:54] <Zamboulie> no
[03:54] <Zamboulie> its not in kmix
[03:54] <flukej-walker> dang
[03:54] <Zamboulie> i upgraded
[03:54] <Zamboulie> so it only recognises my onboard
[03:54] <flukej-walker> hmm
[03:54] <flukej-walker> Mine is PCMCIA
[03:54] <flukej-walker> so it might be differant
[03:55] <flukej-walker> !asound.rc
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asound.rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <flukej-walker> have you restarted since putting it in
[03:56] <flukej-walker> ?
[03:56] <Zamboulie> yeah
[03:56] <Zamboulie> i am so mad at creative
[03:56] <Zamboulie> why cant they make drivers
[03:56] <flukej-walker> i imagine you put it in with the power off, but you never know, which the 'must get three years of uptime" people
[03:57] <Zamboulie> lol
[03:57] <Zamboulie> of course
[03:58] <flukej-walker> i guess you should try searching forums and stuff, as I have never messed with desktop sound before
[03:58] <Zamboulie> here we go
[03:58] <Zamboulie> http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1
[03:58] <Zamboulie> thats the program
[03:58] <Zamboulie> plz run it and help me install it
[03:58] <Zamboulie> somebody
[03:59] <flukej-walker> what is it?
[03:59] <Zamboulie> audigy 2 drivers
[03:59] <flukej-walker> hey, I really wish I could help, but real life is once again interfering
[04:00] <flukej-walker> so, I'll help if I catch you again
[04:00] <flukej-walker> Fluke Out!
[04:00] <Zamboulie> ok
[04:00] <Zamboulie> lol
[04:02] <Zamboulie> anyone else here?
[04:03] <ubuntu_> No.
[04:03] <chakal^-^> nas
[04:03] <cacahead> haha
[04:04] <KeeganX> Welp...I managed to resize my partition and install Kubuntu...
[04:04] <KeeganX> Mission accomplished
[04:04] <satempler> how do I set up daap
[04:04] <satempler> with amarok and ZeroConfig
[04:05] <KeeganX> With Krash it doesn't have everything enabled right?
[04:05] <KeeganX> Its just to see if you can run old KDE apps in it right?
[04:07] <Kr4t05> Bah...
[04:07] <Kr4t05> My system doesn't support bluetooth! Begone!
[04:08] <Zamboulie> well then get bluetooth
[04:11] <yoguess> can someone help me with mounting 2 partitions
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: use the mount command
[04:14] <ge_deTuc> everything worked fine, thank you unremembered nick
[04:14] <yoguess> i did
[04:14] <KeeganX> you fdisk to find the drive you wanted to mount?
[04:14] <larson9999> i have 3 tv capture cards here of different vintages.  my machine is an amd64 with 1 gb ram.  none of the pictures are worth a darn on the pc.  the same cable going into the pc is fine.
[04:14] <yoguess> "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3" right?
[04:15] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: did you create a directory called /mnt/hda3
[04:15] <yoguess> yes
[04:15] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: what type of file system is on the partition
[04:15] <yoguess> mkdir /mnt/hda3
[04:15] <yoguess> ext3
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: and in fdisk does hda3 show up as ext3
[04:16] <yoguess> another problem is in gparted, its showing that hda3 has 4 gb used
[04:16] <yoguess> but its supposed to be blank
[04:16] <yoguess> fdisk -l ??
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: I suspect your looking at the wrong partition
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: and the reason you can mount it because it already is mounted
[04:18] <Linux_Galore> yoguess: yes fdisk -l
[04:18] <yoguess> i could be looking at 1 wrong but i have 2 that needs to be mounted
[04:18] <yoguess> hdb1 is a whole drive ext3, and hda3 is last partition on drive 1
[04:18] <Xanith> Hi I have a installation question.. I'm trying to install Kubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 2600, the installation gets so far and then it goes to a black screen with two grey squares and just freezes... Anyone ever heard of this?
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: what version of kubuntu
[04:19] <Xanith> Whatever the newest is, I just downloaded it last night for i386...
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: theres stable and unstable 6.06 is stable 6.10 is unstable
[04:20] <Xanith> kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: ?? why alternative
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: get desktop
[04:20] <Xanith> i thought desktop was basically a Live CD?
[04:21] <obf213> CheeseBurgerMan: that halt file was what was messing me up. so i deleted it and everything eas back to normal
[04:21] <yoguess> where is the link so i can pase the output of my konsole?
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> obf213: Yay!
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: no the live version has the "installer"
[04:21] <Xanith> ohh so I need the desktop iso?
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: yes
[04:21] <Xanith> ok well i'll download that... i'm trying to convert from gentoo to kubuntu...
[04:22] <Xanith> i've heard kubuntu is much better
[04:22] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: the reason you get the live version is so you know its going to work before you click on the install icon
[04:22] <ubuntu> Hi dudes trying out the live cd, anyway to change tha language on the keayboard_
[04:22] <ubuntu> ?
[04:22] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: also dont use 6.10 its still work in progress
[04:23] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu kcontrol
[04:23] <Xanith> Ok, Gotcha.. I'm just curious to try it out, I'm tired of gentoo... There's all the time compiliation troubles... and it's more of a hassle than its worth
[04:23] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:23] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu theres a keyboard language section
[04:24] <obf213> i have another minor problem
[04:24] <obf213> when i log in, the firs tprogram i open seems to freeze everthing
[04:24] <obf213> kind of
[04:24] <ubuntu> oooh that feels so good, finally a swedish keyboard, thanks man!
[04:25] <yoguess> Disk /dev/hda: 160.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>96 bytes
[04:26] <yoguess> "/dev/hda1   *           1        2492    20016958+  83  Linux"
[04:26] <yoguess> "/dev/hda1   *           1        2492    20016958+  83  Linux"
[04:27] <yoguess> "/dev/hda1   *           1        2492    20016958+  83  Linux"
[04:27] <yoguess> "/dev/hda1   *           1        2492    20016958+  83  Linux"
[04:27] <yoguess> Disk /dev/hdb: 120.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[04:28] <yoguess> "/dev/hdb1               1       14593   117218241   83  Linux"
[04:28] <yoguess> Linux Galore, thats my output of fdisk -l
[04:29] <obf213> when i click on shutdown/restart while im still logged in, i get two recantgles on the screen, that just stay there
[04:29] <obf213> then it shutsdown/restarts
[04:30] <obf213> whts wrong/ im guessing its an x problem, those recantagles always seem to indicate an xproblem
[04:30] <obf213> any ideas..
[04:31] <obf213> hey when you guys log in does it this irc channel does i tsay Your X broken, the fix is to update again. (make sure dapper-updates repo. is enabled)".
[04:32] <yoguess> nope
[04:32] <obf213> yogueess it doesnt say that in purple anywhere
[04:32] <obf213> after the wiki link
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> I see it in the topic.
[04:33] <obf213> ahh ok.
[04:33] <yoguess> ohh ok i see it too
[04:33] <obf213> i was wonderinf if my x was actually broken
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> obf213: I don't know if it's broken. THat' something you should know. :)
[04:34] <obf213> lol, i was just wondering why i twas saying that
[04:34] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:34] <coreymon77> hi
[04:34] <ubuntu_> is it possible to use the live cd to install things?
[04:34] <ubuntu_> onto your existing installation
[04:34] <ubuntu_> cuz my audigy 2 works on the live cd
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: then it should work after the installation.
[04:35] <ubuntu_> i already have linux installed
[04:35] <coreymon77> hi
[04:35] <ubuntu_> i upgraded after i installed
[04:35] <obf213> hey abattoir: when ive logged in like 20 of the last 30 times, the first thing i open freezes everything else, like if i open this first, then the desktop freezes, and the toolbar freezes, but konversation will work
[04:35] <ubuntu_> now i'm on the live cd and it loaded the drivers for me
[04:35] <ubuntu_> could i just install the drivers or something?
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_:That's quite strange. :|
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu_: I'm sure you can, but what package it is, I'm not sure.
[04:36] <ubuntu_> no i'm just not explaining it right lol
[04:36] <paul__> hi
[04:36] <coreymon77> hello
[04:37] <Martijn81> does anyone know if it's possible to cut an ogg audio file without having to re-encode it/
[04:37] <Martijn81> *?
[04:41] <Kr4t05> !info audacity
[04:41] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[04:41] <Zamboulie> i was on here a second ago about my sound card
[04:41] <Zamboulie> can somebody just help me install the drivers?
[04:41] <Zamboulie> it is like 4 steps but i dont know how do to it
[04:43] <Zamboulie> http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1/
[04:43] <yoguess> dapper and breezy are same??
[04:43] <Zamboulie> just open it and help me out with the few steps needed
[04:45] <kRaKoN> hi
[04:46] <Zamboulie> i have a cd that i labelled as the 64 bit version of linux
[04:46] <Zamboulie> but i think i named it wrong
[04:46] <Zamboulie> how can you tell if its 32 or 64 bit by looking at the contents of the cd?
[04:47] <Zamboulie> oh it says right on the cd lol
[04:47] <Zamboulie> ok i'm gonna go reinstall
[04:53] <token__> trying to do anything with apt-get fails with " failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `evolution': Input/output error"
[04:53] <token__> how can i fix this?
[04:53] <kRaKoN> i have no idea
[04:54] <token__> http://pastebin.ca/172436 here are more details
[04:55] <shadowr3d> hello everyone
[04:55] <shadowr3d> hows it going
[04:55] <shadowr3d> good i hope
[04:56] <tachyon> except me
[04:56] <shadowr3d> why
[04:56] <tachyon> i tried a Dapper install that failed miserably
[04:56] <shadowr3d> o
[04:56] <shadowr3d> sorry to hear that
[04:57] <tachyon> used a genuine shipped CD of 6.06 LTS on to a 500MHz celeron
[04:57] <Ghostz> how can i enable that "icon" that shows network traffic on kubuntu?
[04:57] <tachyon> no error messages during install (except it couldnt get past the proxy server)
[04:57] <tachyon> but i cant login!
[04:57] <shadowr3d> so how are you using konversation
[04:58] <tachyon> oh its on another machine
[04:58] <shadowr3d> did u try the recovery mode and try adduser
[04:58] <tachyon> I've never heard of that
[04:59] <shadowr3d> o its a way of hacking linux
[04:59] <tachyon> did you mean boot into the terminal?
[05:00] <shadowr3d> no
[05:02] <ubuntu> ok
[05:02] <ubuntu> one more question
[05:02] <ubuntu> is it possible to reinstall linux without formatting and all that?
[05:02] <ubuntu> so that you can keep your files?
[05:03] <tachyon> like OS X?
[05:03] <ubuntu> was that directed to me?
[05:03] <tachyon> yes
[05:04] <ubuntu> umm
[05:04] <tachyon> OS X can install "over-the-top"
[05:04] <ubuntu> i dunno
[05:04] <ubuntu> but is it possible?
[05:04] <tachyon> i dunno either
[05:04] <ubuntu> well ya
[05:04] <ubuntu> i wanna know if it can install over the top
[05:04] <notech> if /home is its own partition, don't let it format that and all user files/data will remain
[05:04] <word> [17187343.888000]  I/O error in filesystem ("sda1") meta-data dev sda1 block 0x28c10d30       ("xfs_trans_read_buf") error 5 buf count 8192 - any reasons why i should get that from a brand new hd?
[05:05] <ubuntu> what about packages?
[05:05] <ubuntu> i have XGL and stuff installed
[05:05] <notech> i don't know how well kubuntu handles an upgrade
[05:05] <tachyon> word: bad block on hard drive?
[05:05] <ubuntu> well it says just the swap is gonna be formattd
[05:06] <ubuntu> so how do i know where its gonna install?
[05:06] <word> tachyon: not sure..should i run badblocks on it?
[05:06] <ubuntu> i mounted the linux partition as root
[05:06] <ubuntu> should i do that?
[05:06] <tachyon> word- good idea to test it
[05:06] <ubuntu> will i still keep the files?
[05:06] <ubuntu> whatever i'll try it
[05:07] <notech> do a backup first
[05:07] <ubuntu> too late
[05:07] <ubuntu> lol
[05:07] <tachyon> what tools are there to image a linux hard drive?
[05:07] <ubuntu> oh
[05:07] <ubuntu> it won't work
[05:07] <ubuntu> i do need to format
[05:07] <tachyon> OS X wins!
[05:08] <ubuntu> pfft please
[05:08] <tachyon> ha ha
[05:08] <notech> i've only installed it once and rarely use it, someone else may know
[05:08] <tachyon> dont be touchy
[05:08] <Kr4t05> !dma
[05:08] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:08] <ubuntu> ooh
[05:08] <ubuntu> cool stuff
[05:09] <ubuntu> does windows have any stuff that boosts hd performance?
[05:09] <ubuntu> i use it for gaming
[05:09] <lotusleaf> ubuntu yes it does, it's format C: and it worked for me
[05:09] <tachyon> ubuntu: most linux people i've met have liked OS X
[05:09] <ubuntu> lmao!
[05:09] <ubuntu> os x and linux are based off the same thing
[05:10] <word> tachyon: it's not going anywhere :-/
[05:10] <Kr4t05> ubuntu: Try #windows for that info. :P
[05:10] <word> tachyon: stuck at 0
[05:10] <ubuntu> m'k
[05:10] <ubuntu> do you guys know why i'm formatting and reinstalling?
[05:10] <ubuntu> cuz i coudn't get the sound card to work
[05:10] <ubuntu> and in the live cd it does lmao
[05:10] <lotusleaf> ubuntu: "Microsoft DirectX killing innovation" http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=8556
[05:10] <ubuntu> wow whats this
[05:11] <tachyon> word- methinks you have a bad hd
[05:11] <word> seriously?
[05:12] <tachyon> good drives pass tests fine
[05:12] <word> I had one before spent a day in #hardware talkin with some people in there and they all came to the concl that it was bad...so i rma'd  it and got this one...and it's doing almost the same thing
[05:13] <ubuntu> so is everyone gonna use opengl now or something?
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> osx != linux
[05:13] <notech> try changing its cable
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> hardly bsd anymore
[05:13] <ubuntu> XGL = pwns vista
[05:13] <ubuntu> honestly though
[05:13] <word> notech: hmm..no other cables :-/ well...ya know...if that's the problem...i vow to spend an entire day staring down the defective cable..
[05:13] <ubuntu> directX 10 or openGL 2.0?
[05:14] <tachyon> word- you need to test it in another machine
[05:14] <ubuntu> dx10 wins this one
[05:14] <ubuntu> :(
[05:14] <ubuntu> can opengl do everything that directx 9 can do?
[05:14] <Linux_Galore> yeah dx10 wins because it has more games industry interest thus more $$$ behind it
[05:15] <Linux_Galore> opengl is better for big screen animation
[05:15] <lotusleaf> ubuntu give it time, I'm sure someone is working on something to challenge directx, but as FOSS
[05:15] <Linux_Galore> not so much for games
[05:15] <ubuntu> why don't more ppl program in opengl
[05:15] <ubuntu> i wanna game in linux too
[05:15] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu same reason people dont program for os2 anymore
[05:16] <notech> no money to back it.
[05:16] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu you go were the money is
[05:16] <ubuntu> aww
[05:16] <lotusleaf> ubuntu the game Prey works in wine ;)
[05:16] <ubuntu> :O
[05:16] <ubuntu> how does it look?
[05:16] <ubuntu> i had guild wars running one day and the shaders were messed up
[05:16] <Kr4t05> ubuntu: because, in linux, you need to program for all of the different configurations. ALSA, OSS, JACKd, etc. and that's just sound systems.
[05:16] <Kr4t05> Linux isn't "standard" enough.
[05:17] <notech> still wouldn't, very few would be willing to pay for linux games
[05:17] <lotusleaf> ubuntu try it for yourself with the prey demo
[05:17] <tachyon> Kr4t05: thats what people like about it
[05:18] <Kr4t05> tachyon: But, developers don't like it. Because, with that diversity from system to system, comes an enormous cost of programming to implement the diversity.
[05:18] <Kr4t05> With Windows, it's one API: DirectX.
[05:18] <tachyon> Kr4t05: also with OS X
[05:18] <Xanith> Linux_Galore: you still here?
[05:19] <Kr4t05> If the kernel crew could lay out a list of "recommended" guidelines for distros to use as a base for their structure, software developers would be more willing to program for Linux.
[05:19] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: yes
[05:20] <Kr4t05> Rather than have distros wander willy-nilly without regard.
[05:20] <coreymon77>  !
[05:20] <Kr4t05> AcK!
[05:20] <coreymon77> hehehehehe
[05:20] <Xanith> Ok,I downloaded the Desktop ISO... it gets to a point where it just has the kubuntu logo and a blue bar... but no install button...
[05:20] <coreymon77> i love doing that
[05:20] <word> notech: just acquired another sata cable :D gonna test it out now.
[05:20] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: so you dont get to the desktop ??
[05:21] <Xanith> nope
[05:21] <Xanith> but its not froze... if i hit CLT+ALT+Backspace it shuts down
[05:21] <word> well maybe i should describe the problem  first...i can write to it fine 90 gigs plus in a row no problems.. transfering 1.5 gigs from it to my main hd 1.5 gigs in it stops functioning
[05:21] <Kr4t05> Point being, until there is a set standard for programmers to work by, there can be no real rise in the *nix game market.
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: did you search on www.google.com/linux  ie dell 2600 ubuntu laptop
[05:22] <Kr4t05> id is merely nice enough to adhere to open standards, because they rock,
[05:22] <Xanith> theres a google for linux?
[05:22] <word> tachyon: ever heard of that kind of thing before?
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: yep
[05:22] <coreymon77>   !
[05:23] <Xanith> the only thing i see is something about downgrading the bios to A08
[05:23] <Xanith> which will be interesting seeing as i dont even own a floppy drive anymore lol
[05:26] <tachyon> word; no i havent used SATA on linux machines
[05:26] <SpAwN> !qemu
[05:26] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: Im poking around www.linux-laptops.net
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: if you can go into the bios and turn the plug and play and power management off
[05:30] <Xanith> ok i'll try that
[05:30] <Xanith> let me reboot
[05:34] <Xanith> Linux_Galore: there is no where on the bios to turn those off... im gonna try and figure out a way to get this bios on the laptop without installing windows xp to do it lol
[05:35] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: yeah Im reading also the bios needs a partition on the hardisk , ouch
[05:36] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: 2600 doesnt look like a Linux friendly laptop
[05:37] <Xanith> yea im noticing that myself
[05:37] <Xanith> but i want linux and i dont want to have to run it on my AMD64 system lol
[05:37] <Xanith> i have Vista on here... im kinda having fun playing with it at the moment
[05:37] <tbag> when is youtube gonna run on linux without sound delay???
[05:37] <Linux_Galore> get Linux with XGL, makes vista look like a side show
[05:38] <Linux_Galore> tbag: ?? I dont get a delay
[05:38] <Linux_Galore> tbag: then again I have flash 9 installed
[05:38] <Xanith> whats XGL?
[05:39] <tachyon> Xanith: more window dressing effects
[05:39] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: adds effects to the GUI like transparency and shaddows and animated icons and menu's
[05:39] <tdog> hello everyone :)
[05:39] <Linux_Galore> Xanith: also adds to your ram resources disapearing lol
[05:39] <tdog> newbie in the house.. please don't hate  me :)
[05:40] <tachyon> hi tdog
[05:40] <tdog> i need to install driver for my graphic card , NVIDIA .. i downloaded the driver, but no clue how to install
[05:40] <tdog> it is .run extension
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> we dont hate you... yet. :)
[05:40] <tdog> :(
[05:40] <tdog> thanks Dr willis
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> You may want to follow the  direction son the nvidia wiki page
[05:40] <tdog> :)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[05:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> and use the prepackaged ones.. Unless you know that you absoutely NEED the latest drivers..
[05:42] <tdog> prepackaged ones??? thats all i found .. as i said im new , and there are tons of different extension for linux :(
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> tdog,  you are thinking in windows terms.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> learn about how the package system works for kubuntu. :P  and become one with the 'apt-get'
[05:42] <tachyon> Dr_Willis: all ex-Windows users think in Windows terms :)
[05:43] <tdog> i guess. :).. i incountered about 6 different extension while was installing different programs
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> tachyon,  in the same way that Zombie-MUtant-lemmings - think in zomvie terms.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> extensions?
[05:43] <tdog> im EXWINDOW user  :)
[05:43] <tachyon> Dr_Willis: they know no other way
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure what you are doing.. but i bet  you are doing it the hard way.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:43] <tdog> lol
[05:43] <tdog> you right
[05:43] <tdog> linux is new to me
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> This is when it pays to spend a day just reading different web sites and guides.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> the 'zen' of linux. :P
[05:44] <tdog> this is my first install and i have a good graphic card but only generic driver installed for it
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> printing out man pages and reading them in the library.. (or bathroom)
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> tdog,  it takes me about 3 min to get the nvidia drivers up and going on a new install.
[05:44] <tdog> i been , i been reading .. lol .. but have no idea what im reading  :)
[05:44] <tdog> well,
[05:44] <tdog> 3 days and still going
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> why worry about it at this time. :P you will get them going eventually. Its just a few apt-get commands.
[05:45] <tdog> now you talking jebrish with me
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> howeer the nvidia wiki does need a little work. its less then clear at some points.
[05:45] <tdog> :)
[05:45] <tachyon> is there a better site than www.filext.com
[05:45] <tdog> but im soo damn excited to get linux up and running
[05:46] <dek> tdog: check Adept
[05:46] <dek> it's easier than the console, for beginners
[05:46] <dek> there you can find a lot of software from repositories
[05:46] <tdog> adept ??? where can i find that ??
[05:47] <dek> Alt+Space and type "Adept"
[05:47] <dek> or in System Menu
[05:47] <tachyon> alt space does nothing for me
[05:48] <dek> don't you have Katapult installed?
[05:48] <tdog> it seems its installed
[05:48] <tachyon> what's Katapult?
[05:48] <tdog> woow .
[05:48] <dek> a VERY nice app of KDE
[05:48] <tachyon> is it like Spotlight in OS X
[05:48] <dek> with it you won't need icons in the desktop anymore :P
[05:49] <tachyon> it sounds like Spotlight
[05:49] <tachyon> is it in the standard repositories?
[05:49] <dek> yes I think
[05:49] <tdog> cool.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> There are some Kubuntu/Ubuntu beggiiner guides that you may want to check out also. :P
[05:49] <dek> but you should enable universe and multiverse anyway
[05:49] <tdog> im confused.. lol
[05:50] <dek> we all were at the beginning
[05:50] <dek> but IRC is so useful :P
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Linux tip #1 - when in doubt "THINK"
[05:50] <tdog> lol
[05:50] <tdog> thanks Dr
[05:50] <dek> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:50] <dek> always check that
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Linux tip #2 - when in doubt read and then "THINK"  about what you read.. even if you dont understand it now.. read stuff.. then rember it later.. so you get the big picture
[05:50] <dek> and the Wiki
[05:50] <tdog> damn microsoft been playing tricks with my mind
[05:50] <tachyon> Dr_Willis:  i have thought and read on the forums about my failed install, but i got no clues
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> tachyon,  'problem exists between keyboard and chair'  :)
[05:51] <tdog> lol
[05:51] <tdog> is true
[05:51] <tdog> how good a linux compare to window.
[05:51] <tachyon> not me :)
[05:51] <tdog> i know a few
[05:51] <tdog> but wondring , where is it heading
[05:52] <tachyon> Dr_Willis: "your session lasted less than 10 seconds"
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> tachyon,  X is crashing sounds like.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:52] <tachyon> Dr_Willis: instantly
[05:52] <tachyon> but why does the liveCD work, but not the installed OS?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> yep..  try 'startx' and see if ya get any good error messages
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> i would guess a issue with the xorg.conf
[05:52] <tachyon> startx & ?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> startx is the command to 'start x' from the console.
[05:53] <tachyon> no i mean, add the "&" ?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> wny bother. :P
[05:53] <tachyon> oh
[05:53] <tdog> i leave now , need to do some reading , once i know few big words, i be back to this irc. thanks for all your helps :)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> you can always go to a 2nd console if ya really want to.
[05:53] <tachyon> me? no i can only boot into the terminal
[05:54] <tachyon> there is no xsession
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> tachyon,  yes.. so use 'startx' from the terminal  (console) and see if any errors are shown
[05:54] <dek> gl tdog :P
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> there is no need to use gdm/kdm/XYZPDQdm at all. :)
[05:54] <tachyon> aha
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Linux FUNdamentals
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> startx will also read the .xinitrc file (MAKE ONE if ya want to) to decide what windowmanager and other programs to load.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> example .xinitrc file
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> 2 lines
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> xterm &
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> exec icewm
[05:55] <tachyon> oh yeah i remember now
[05:55] <Dr_Willis>  :)
[05:55] <tachyon> put .xinitrc in ~, right?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> if you dont have one it will use the system wide defaulg
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> its in your home dir . correct
[05:56] <tachyon> there is no need to make a .xession file?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> .xsession is used by some gdm/kdm entres i recall
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> ive never used one that i can rember
[05:56] <word> notech: i hope i don't jynx it...but i think the new cable did the trick..
[05:57] <tachyon> word: hurrah!
[05:57] <word> and i'm a mad of my word
[05:57] <word> i'll schedule sunday for staring down the defective cable
[05:57] <word> man*
[05:58] <tachyon> see, there is no .xsession file. Maybe i need to make one
[05:58] <tachyon> then it wont crash
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> i dont have one
[05:58] <tachyon> oh
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> and you are thinking in windows terms. :P
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> 'lets try somthing at random and hope it fix's it... '
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> did ya get some error messages in the console?
[05:58] <tachyon> no i think in macOS terms :)
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> macos people tend to think that   they are better then eveyone else.. because their pc's are so shiny.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> and their wallets are so empty
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> I got OS-X working on vmware yesterday
[06:00] <tachyon> cool
[06:00] <tachyon> pls lets forget about the money side of things
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> its sluggish.. but i actually think its faster then my real imac.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> My next 'new' machine will proberly be in the $300 range total.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> and this older one will become my UBER-file-server
[06:00] <ccherrett> I am try to get a 19" Wide monitor at 1440 x 900 but I can only get 1280 x 1024
[06:01] <ccherrett> I have set my modeline to Modeline "1440x900"  106.47  1440 1520 1672 1904  900 901 904 932  -HSync +Vsync
[06:01] <tachyon> uhh, Dr_Willis, thanks for the help but i cant try things out.. the box is at work
[06:01] <tachyon> i have made some mental notes
[06:01] <tachyon> (and written ones)
[06:01] <ccherrett> and my display subsection to SubSection "Display"
[06:01] <ccherrett>                 Depth           24
[06:01] <ccherrett>                 Modes           "1440x900"
[06:01] <ccherrett>                 ViewPort 0 0
[06:01] <ccherrett>         EndSubSection
[06:02] <ccherrett> still no 1440x900 :(
[06:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> wheeeee
[06:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> xgl+compiz
[06:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> imma happy person ^^
[06:03] <Healot> yay; system crash; very unhappy person :)
[06:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> nah, it auto-restarts
[06:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> :P
[06:04] <dek> ccherrett: check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <dek> maybe you can find your answer there
[06:06] <dek> :P
[06:09] <ccherrett> dek: no help there :(
[06:09] <dek> then I got no idea :P
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> i also often to go that x modeline generator web site to get my modelines generates
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> or use a live cd that happens to get it right.. and steal the info from their xorg.conf
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu is the first disrto ive had - that actually got my widescreen laptop display correct
[06:11] <lotusleaf> ubuntu for the win
[06:11] <Riddick> kubuntu did the same for my new 22" widescreen.  it set the size exactly to what it is.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sems that widescreen lcd's for the desktop are getting more and more common.
[06:12] <Riddick> macbook pro for my laptop and linux for my desktop machine   best of both worlds
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> rotate them so they are 'tall screens' :)
[06:12] <Riddick> yeah, and IMHO they are by far the best displays
[06:13] <Riddick> widescreen is good for side by side browsing or whatever not to mention the best for movie play back
[06:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> ok, xgl is too stable, i'm going to try and crash it
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> I got all these comic book files i need to read. someday.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> I need a nice tablet pc so i can read the comics heh
[06:13] <Riddick> heh
[06:14] <Riddick> the only way i would ever own a table would be if it were given to me   even then i would have to format it and put nix on it
[06:14] <Riddick> table / tablet i meant
[06:15] <kRaKoN> How do i set globals off on the php.ini with put editing it? I know there is a way to do it with "# php -i | grep globals" but that's to turn them on, what about to turn them off?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> I had my laptop sitting on its side so i could read the comic books. :)
[06:17] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: I am not getting this to work. I have tried the different modlines but no success:) can you post some of your xorg.conf?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> what video card ya got?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> nvidia?
[06:18] <tachyon> then he would have to kill you
[06:19] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: nvidia
[06:19] <tachyon> bye4now
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> http://usalug.org/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=25
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> is for my nvidia desktop machine with tv out
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> my widescreen box is an ati card and its way over there... :P
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> but i dident even have to edit that one.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:22] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: oh this has not 1440x900 in it
[06:22] <Linux_Galore> anyone got a howto on installing the ms core fonts in kubuntu
[06:22] <Linux_Galore> found one for ubuntu but the file is missing in kubuntu
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install the package
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> is all i ever did. should be the same for both k/ubuntu
[06:23] <Xanith> Linux_Galore: I have a couple of questions for u if u have a sec...
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> msttcorefonts - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !info msttcorefonts
[06:23] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[06:24] <ccherrett> could my diplay problems be the fact that I am not using the nvidia drivers?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> ccherrett,  i have had some machines that needed the nvidid drivers to get correct res.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> so i would say YES...
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> X is falling back to a failsafe lower res. is my guess
[06:24] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: any hints to get it running in kubuntu?
[06:25] <Linux_Galore> Dr_Willis: well I typed apt-get install msttcorefonts and it came back with nothing
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> insall the nvidia drivres first.. then start tweaking
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Linux_Galore,  you did set up the  Multiverse repo?
[06:25] <ccherrett> Dr_Willis: do I get the drivers from nvidia
[06:26] <Xanith> Linux_Galore: I'm thinking of going ahead and installing kubuntu on my amd64 computer, but I just got a DVD-RW drive recently, and i'm just curious if you can still burn DVD movies and things like that on linux...
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[06:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <ccherrett> thanks
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> ccherrett,  ive installed them so many times - its a 3-10 min task. :)
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Xanith,   its possible.. but thees no nice -idiot-friendly tools/front ends out that ive seen yet.
[06:27] <Xanith> K3B doesn't have it integrated yet?
[06:27] <Linux_Galore> Dr_Willis: yeah multiverse is enabled
[06:27] <ubuntu> hello
[06:27] <ubuntu> I have a problem
[06:28] <ubuntu> kubuntu will only run in safe graphics mode
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Linux_Galore,  try 'apt-cache search msttcorefonts'
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> i always spell it wrong
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> you did update the apt repos after adding multiverse?
[06:29] <Linux_Galore> Dr_Willis: got it theres an error in sources.list
[06:29] <ryan__> is there a way to compleatly reformat a harddrive i screwed one of mine up in fdisk
[06:30] <Homer> anyone know why KDE wouldn't work unless in safe graphics mode?
[06:30] <Linux_Galore> Homer: graphics card issues
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> ryan__,   you can easially refdisk and reformat a drive..
[06:30] <ccherrett> what is the command to launch synaptic from command line
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> what do ya mean by 'competely' however
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> ccherrett,  synaptic
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[06:30] <ccherrett> oh :(
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> if ya got it installed.
[06:30] <ccherrett> haha
[06:31] <Homer> Linux_Galore: it's strange though, Breezy worked fine
[06:32] <dougmo> Well, I installed kubuntu ver 6.06 LTS. All seems to be OK so far.
[06:33] <Homer> Can I get into safe graphics mode if I install Kubuntu on my HDD?
[06:33] <ryan__> well here the problem i was trying to reformat from a ntfs file system to a ext3 or ext2 file system and my internet was down so i couldnt bring up any forums or anything. so i decided to just try to figure it out. that ow i learned how to do it in dos and now it only reads it as 800mb or so and its a 120gb disk
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> ryan__,  'reformat to' - you mean convert? or erase the ntfs and lose all its data.. and use the new space as ext3?
[06:35] <ryan__> shure
[06:35] <ryan__> yeah
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> sure what? :P
[06:35] <ryan__> yes
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> dos's fdisk - is limited. use a live cd  tht comes with gparted. is the easiest fix.
[06:36] <USlvlC> or a seagate zero fill
[06:36] <Homer> Dr_Willis: Can I get into safe graphics mode if I install Kubuntu on my HDD?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Homer,  i would imagine so.
[06:37] <Homer> ok here goes nothing
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> cant say that ive ever needed to do so.. or can ever recall SEEING how to get into 'safe graphics mode' :P
[06:37] <Homer> :(
[06:37] <ryan__> i have gparted on my installed linux but i dont have any options ...i cant do anthing on that drive
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> i imagine safe graphics mode. is using the svga driver for X
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> is all there is to it
[06:37] <Homer> yeah
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> ryan__,  'a live cd'  is handy for such tasks
[06:38] <Homer> well apperently that is all the kubuntu supports out of the box on my laptop
[06:38] <ryan__> ok thanks
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> you dont want to run gparted on mounted drives. :P
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> or have a system crash due to other apps running
[06:38] <ryan__> it was mounted but i unmounted it befor i tryed to do anything with fdisk
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Ilike this 'latin' type music.. but i need english words. :P  so what catagory would that be, Heh
[06:40] <ryan__> ok im sorry i told you wrong when i go to gparted on the linux i have installed it just freezes up when i click on that drive
[06:40] <omar> hi guys , can I ask you how is the azureus
[06:40] <Homer> you know gnome and kde almost work identical these days
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Homer,  they are both converging nicely in many ways.. yet still keeping their differances. :P
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> drag and drop now seems to work from kde to gnome and visa-versa
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Homer,  what video card ya got in the laptop?
[06:41] <Homer> ATI x700
[06:42] <Homer> I'm overrriding my Ubuntu 5.10 with Kubuntu 6.06.1 right now
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> then when you install kubuntu you will want to follow the !ati wiki pages  :)
[06:42] <Homer> I hope I can get into safe mode
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> You may have better luck doing a clean install.
[06:42] <Homer> I am I'm using the CD
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Im still wondering where you even SEE a 'safe' mode thing at. :P
[06:43] <Homer> it was in boot options
[06:43] <OPP> i worship kubuntu
[06:43] <Homer> I'll try installing the properitary ati driver
[06:43] <OPP> it solved all my problems
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'failsafe' ?
[06:43] <Homer> it
[06:43] <Homer> it's called "safe graphics mode"
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> must be only on the live cd.. and tells x to use the svga driver then for x
[06:44] <Homer> there should be a way to do that via install :(
[06:44] <Homer> maybe a grub boot option
[06:44] <Homer> !ati
[06:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> if you are on a real install.. you set up the drivers you NEED. :P
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> its that simple.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> the live cd's grub options get passed to the X configuration subsystem. i am guessing.
[06:49] <Homer> ok I'm going to see if it worked
[06:51] <teardrop`afk> what I really like about kubuntu is that it comes with an mp3 player
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> it does?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> never noticed. :P i tend to apt-get install xmms from the start
[06:55] <omar> guys how can hide files in kubuntu
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> define 'hide' :)
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> we talking porn? or just a few dirctories?
[06:58] <teardrop`afk> Dr_Willis: keep it pg
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> the standard way is for files beginning ith a . to be 'hidden' but its more where  the apps just ignore them.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> If you want to secure other things.. you can have an enrypted drive, or even files inside a loopback filesystem
[07:01] <teardrop> is kubuntu like a program that installs in windows?
[07:01] <teardrop> I installed it but I cant find it in the start menu
[07:02] <OPP> last night kubuntu saved my life
[07:02] <OPP> it was truly incredible
[07:03] <teardrop> does anyone know? I checked in C:\Program Files\ but kubuntu wasnt there
[07:03] <OPP> teardrop
[07:03] <OPP> lol
[07:03] <OPP> did you check system32
[07:03] <OPP> silly!
[07:03] <teardrop> OPP: let me check
[07:03] <OPP> k
[07:04] <Sir_Homer> d
[07:04] <OPP> if its not there
[07:04] <teardrop> OPP: I still cant find it
[07:04] <OPP> hmm
[07:04] <OPP> are you looking for the iso?
[07:05] <OPP> or the debian ripoff
[07:05] <teardrop> no, I installed kubuntu but I can't find it
[07:05] <OPP> i mean operating system
[07:05] <OPP> o
[07:05] <OPP> well
[07:05] <OPP> i dunno then
[07:05] <teardrop> I'm in windows but I dont see kubuntu in the start menu
[07:05] <OPP> ya
[07:06] <balld> Is there a new version of Kubuntu out that I don't know about? Last time I checked, you couldn't install it inside of windows
[07:06] <teardrop> kubuntu is just the new name for kazaa right
[07:06] <balld> lol
[07:06] <teardrop> what's funny
[07:06] <balld> You
[07:06] <balld> You're kidding right?
[07:07] <teardrop> I'm not kidding about the part that I cant download any music with kubuntu
[07:07] <teardrop> because it's not showing up in my start menu
[07:08] <OPP> i heard kubuntu is used with hacking or something
[07:08] <OPP> it uses linux hacks
[07:08] <hastesaver> teardrop, are you serious or trolling? (Although I realise this question is always pointless...)
[07:08] <OPP> not downladoing
[07:08] <teardrop> hastesaver: whats trolling?
[07:08] <teardrop> hastesaver: does that mean there's something wrong with how i installed it
[07:08] <OPP> no
[07:09] <teardrop> someone please help me, I really want to use this new version of kazaa
[07:09] <OPP> well
[07:09] <balld> Whew! Glad I remembered there was an ignore button
[07:09] <hastesaver> teardrop, ok, Kubuntu is an entire operating system (like Windows). It does NOT run under Windows. One can use it *instead of* Windows.
[07:10] <teardrop> hastesaver: LOL you got owned bud
[07:10] <hastesaver> teardrop, it has nothing to do with Kazaa. You are mistaken.     I've used many flavors of linux but this is the first time I've set up Kbuntu full time on a machine's HD.
[07:16] <nalioth> they just don't wear their hats  :)
[07:17] <Lynoure> What a morning... Does anyone have problems I could help with? I'd love to do some good deed now
[07:17] <jbandlirpa> LOL
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> You called your isp - because your are having a windows driver problem? :)
[07:17] <Homer> ok my resolution is stuck at some screw up resolution
[07:17] <jbandlirpa> yes
[07:17] <Homer> 1024x768
[07:17] <Homer> my laptop supports 1200x800 widescreen
[07:17] <Homer> no option to change it to that
[07:17] <jbandlirpa> Is it possible that the modem was made after w2k came out ?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  considering how old w2k is... id say yes.
[07:18] <balld> Homer: Mine is running at 1200x800 out of the box
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  you are refering to a dial up modem rigth?
[07:18] <jbandlirpa> No ethernet
[07:18] <hastesaver> !fixres
[07:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:18] <Homer> balld: I have no drivers
[07:18] <dougmo> I figured out how to enable Adept's "universe". That was pretty simple. Now about apt-get. Can I use it instead and is there any Kubuntu related reason to do so. Some distros seem to think that synaptic and adept are shakier than apt-get though I'm not sure why.
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  then what does a modem have to do with it?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:19] <Lynoure> Homer: Not even under System settings -> Display?
[07:19] <jbandlirpa> well, its not the modem but the ethernet card I think is the problem
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> dougmo,  they are front ends to apt-get..  no real problems doing it either way
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> dougmo,   i mixx and match,  depeds on if i am sshing to the box. or at the  desktop
[07:19] <jbandlirpa> I have all 4 green lights on my modem when i go to windows
[07:20] <dougmo> Dr_Willis: K
[07:20] <jbandlirpa> but I cant look at any pages
[07:20] <Homer> Lynoure: nope, but I'm working on that
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> jbandlirpa,  if your network card is not configured - it wont matter about the modem much at all.
[07:20] <wry> just configured my graphics card. Can anyone suggest some games that will do it justice? I've got chromium and ppracer (which didn't work until now), surely theres a bunch of other pretty games out there
[07:21] <jbandlirpa> windows keeps looking for a source to install the ethernet
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> logically - it sounds lik eyou need to go download the correct windows drivers for that network card.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> and yes windows can be very very dumb about network card drivers
[07:22] <Lynoure> wry: Enemy Territory seems to be popular
[07:22] <hastesaver> wry, which reminds me.. I've never been able to get ET to work. Probably because I don't have a graphics card. You could try it though -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Linux drivers tend to be based on the actual chipset on the card.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> trembulus is a nice game. but it makes me dizzy
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> tremulus
[07:23] <jbandlirpa> this is what linux says my ethernet is
[07:23] <jbandlirpa> 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
[07:23] <jbandlirpa> what do I look up as far as a driver online
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> time to use google..
[07:23] <jbandlirpa> the 82562ez?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a good place to start. :P
[07:24] <jbandlirpa> Ok cool!, thx :)
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ya want us to enter google.com for ya next? :)
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> !google 82562EZ
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google 82562EZ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> darn
[07:24] <jbandlirpa> If ya wanna lol
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> no google bot.
[07:25] <jbandlirpa> brb
[07:25] <wry> thanx hastesaver I'll give it a go
[07:25] <wry> Any other suggestions guys?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> 'cube' only its got a new name now
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Linux game tome - check it out
[07:26] <hastesaver> wry, I loved Enigma; puzzle-solving and mouse skills :-) Not a graphics-intensive game though, so it's not what you asked. I just mentioned it.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> rocks n diamonds is my fav.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> slune - is fun also
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> xpilot for old-skool-killing
[07:29] <lol> XD
[07:30] <lol> I installed smtpd, and then uninstalled it, and now when I reboot I get sendmail script errors
[07:31] <lol> Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> use the --purge option when you uninstalled it?
[07:33] <lol> I don't think so
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> or just remove the services so it dont get started
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> or both. :)
[07:33] <lol> I believe I used adept at the time
[07:33] <lol> I just did something bad :( I removed a file in rc0
[07:33] <lol> (it was /etc/rc0.d/K19sendmail
[07:34] <ep> whats the difference between linux-k7 and linux-image-k7?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> trivial
[07:34] <cvt> how do i fix my k3b?
[07:34] <wry> okay the games is on their way cheers guys!!
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> cvt,  how... vague. :)
[07:34] <wry> now for a more technical question...
[07:34] <cvt> Dr_Willis,  what do you need?
[07:35] <hastesaver> cvt, what is wrong?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> ugh.. information. :P
[07:35] <ep> nevermind
[07:35] <cvt> hastesaver,  it just sits there. last time it sat for 12 hours
[07:35] <cvt> error 255
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> 255? thats an odd error #
[07:35] <cvt> i have 128mB ram 799mHz
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Ick. :P
[07:36] <wry> I've had probs with the sound in some avi files not syncing with the video, at first I thought it was just a dud file and then I bumped into another
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> wry,  mplayer and other players have a feature where you can  increse/decrease the video/sound sync differance..    that may be neeed. and yes it can be an annoying.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> it often depends on how/what codec the file is using
[07:37] <cvt> hastesaver,  i'm trying to burn an iso image
[07:38] <wry> DR W... any idea if either VLC or Kaffeine have  such a feature?
[07:38] <ryan_> does anyone know if flash player 8 is oun for linux yet
[07:38] <hastesaver> wry, it could also be that the decoding isn't happening fast enough. In that case, mplayer has this option of "framedropping" to maintain sync.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> wry,  i think vlc does.. but ive never used it.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> most of the stuff i watch are tv shows.. so the sync never gets noticeable
[07:39] <dougmo> After an instation of a program (gimp in this case) is there a way to make the menu auto-update without a reboot?
[07:39] <wry> DR W sounds like your suggesting I get mplayer
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> dougmo,  it should show up.. theres some kde command that can force it to rescan.. but i cant rember it.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> wry,  i use all the players.. i often find video that dont pla y in one..but does another one
[07:41] <wry> yeah I just downloaded a ukulele techniques video... it's really annoying to try and use it without the sound in sync
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> ukulele? Egads!
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> well at least its not the Bagpipes!
[07:43] <unix_infidel> mind your words.
[07:43] <unix_infidel> warren buffet plays the ukelele
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> So did Tiny TIm.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> so did Greg Brady on that one Ep. where they were in Hawaii
[07:44] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: the guy from A Christmas Carol?
[07:44] <cvt> Dr_Willis, what information do you need?
[07:44] <dougmo> Warren Buffet also lives in a dumpy tract home, but this doesn't mean you should, if you don't want to.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> dougmo,  Hes my neighbor :P
[07:45] <unix_infidel> man i wish there was a way to update firefox in linux like there is for windows.
[07:45] <unix_infidel> automatically installs and updates all the extensions and such.
[07:45] <dougmo> Oh, heck now I think I've inadvertently insulted Dr_Willis. Sorry!
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel,  use the 'klik' packages and install the latest for  your user. is one way
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:46] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: right. i'll get right on that.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel,  and my firefox does update the extensions
[07:46] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: but i meant during the actual firefox update install.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> i mus thave 20 extensions loaded in the thing.
[07:46] <unix_infidel> it autochecks for extension updates.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. mine checks every time it starts up...
[07:47] <unix_infidel> heh, i only have about 5-6
[07:47] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: right, that's fine, but what about when you update?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> you need an extension updater-updater!
[07:47] <wry> and so do I (play ukulele)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> i never worry about updating.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> :) it will get updated in 6 Mo.
[07:47] <unix_infidel> i tried learning the guitar.
[07:47] <unix_infidel> didnt work out that well.
[07:48] <wry> check out jake shimabukuro and you'll get a new perspective on uke (his cover of while my guitar gently weeps is the shit!!)
[07:49] <wry> Dr W  from what?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:50] <wry> ??
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Now the Accordian! now thats an intrument you can be proud of!
[07:50] <dougmo> getting ready to run firefox 2 beta 2. I like the inline spell checker.
[07:50] <unix_infidel> learning to spell is much more rewarding.
[07:50] <wry> Absolutely!!
[07:50] <dougmo> learning to spell? Never happen.
[07:50] <wry> But then I'm a folky!
[07:51] <unix_infidel> kids nowadays.
[07:51] <unix_infidel> they barely know how to spell curse words.
[07:51] <cvt> what are some alternatives to k3b?
[07:51] <dougmo> (grumbles about youngsters who are just babes in arms calling me a kid(
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> http://www.myspace.com/weirdal
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:51] <cvt> for burning iso images
[07:51] <Philip5> unix_infidel: you mean words like !"%&%#! :)
[07:51] <unix_infidel> keep a PDA with them just so they can do google ---> define: (*&%^
[07:52] <unix_infidel> while their tagging down main street.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> they're*
[07:52] <Homer> hey
[07:52] <Homer> I can't get my video driver working still ><
[07:52] <Homer> !ati
[07:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <dougmo> firefox beta started painlessly.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> ati can be a real real pain
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> cvt,  could alwyas use the cdrecord command line tool
[07:54] <unix_infidel> i just use nero on a win box :P
[07:54] <unix_infidel> just vnc :)
[07:58] <wry> DrW I gots mplayer now. How do i change the sync? Had a quick browse through the options, it's nowhere obvious so I thoiught I'd ask you.
[07:59] <dougmo> I think at least for now Dr_Willis has gone.
[08:00] <wry> ah... so I see! Nuts!!!
[08:00] <wry> anyone else know how to change the audio video sync in mplayer?
[08:01] <cvt> how do i burn an iso image on my desktop to cd with  cdrecord?
[08:01] <draik> cvt, use k3b
[08:01] <cvt> draik,  i can't get it to start to burn in k3b
[08:02] <draik> is k3b a broken install for you?
[08:03] <Lynoure> cvt: googling for   iso cdrecord burn   or just   man cdrecord  might get you started
[08:06] <cvt> draik,  i'll try that
[08:07] <draik> cvt, ok. Good luck
[08:07] <Homer> WOOT
[08:07] <Homer> finally got the crappy ATI drivers to work
[08:08] <Homer> too bad they are 32 bit
[08:08] <draik> at least its something
[08:09] <Homer> yeah
[08:10] <Homer> opengl inited fine
[08:10] <Homer> whats that tux racer game
[08:10] <Homer> the new one
[08:12] <Homer> !limewire
[08:12] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[08:12] <mbsw> hello new here just loaded the operating system
[08:12] <Homer> !frostwire
[08:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:12] <Homer> God I love this package manager
[08:12] <mbsw> what is it?
[08:13] <Homer> adept
[08:13] <cvt> i reinstalled k3b and it still doesn't burn my iso image
[08:14] <cvt> i get no error message and it just sits there for hours
[08:14] <cvt> what do i do to burn?
[08:15] <mbsw> did you chose the right burner?
[08:15] <Homer> what is a Qt based OSS gnutella p2p client
[08:15] <Homer> or rather any p2p client
[08:16] <mbsw> with fedora core 5 I had no trouble with K3B
[08:16] <cvt> mbsw,  i chose burn cd image
[08:16] <mbsw> sounds like lime wire
[08:17] <mbsw> where did it go from there cvt?
[08:17] <mbsw> did it give you an options menu?
[08:17] <|lostbyte|> cvt, click on debug info, and see where it stops..
[08:17] <cvt> mbsw,  it says elapsed time 12:15:15 h, 0% overall progress, etc.
[08:18] <mbsw> that's a long hang time
[08:18] <cvt> i've never had an iso take near that long to start
[08:19] <mbsw> what version of linux are you running?
[08:20] <cvt> i don't really know b/c after i thought i installed dapper latest k menu still says breezy 5.10
[08:21] <Homer> how do I rename a file via console
[08:22] <tbag> you can use the "mv" command
[08:22] <tbag> mv [yourfile]  [newfilename]
[08:23] <mbsw> I was just looking at my options here I just loaded this system on (ubintu 6.01) I was looking for mabe a different burner program to try
[08:23] <mbsw> none found
[08:24] <mbsw> I wounder if you tried burning files or music do you still have the same problem?
[08:24] <hastesaver_> mbsw, what? There is k3b, gnome-baker (or something), nautilus-cd-burner, xcdroast, ...
[08:25] <mbsw> not on mine at this time
[08:26] <mbsw> but those are all good suggestions for cvt
[08:26] <mbsw> thanks hastesaver
[08:29] <mbsw> I just noticed my spelling earlier ( the brandy is taking effect)
[08:30] <mbsw> you still there cvt?
[08:30] <cvt> yes
[08:31] <mbsw> anthing help?
[08:31] <cvt> same problem with all cd's
[08:31] <mbsw> bummer
[08:31] <cvt> i'm going to try those other apps above
[08:31] <mbsw> cool
[08:31] <mbsw> hope they work for you
[08:31] <cvt> ty
[08:32] <cvt> error message in  k3b finally:
[08:32] <cvt> Wrong medium type
[08:32] <mbsw> using cd or dvd?
[08:32] <cvt> cd on a dvd/cd burner
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> cvt: cdrecord -v dev=/dev/cdrom image.iso speed=20
[08:33] <mbsw> have you upgraded the firmware on the burner?
[08:33] <cvt> mbsw,  no
[08:34] <dougmo> argh. trying to install a deb driver for my printer. OK what to do next?
[08:35] <mbsw> when all else fails then try that
[08:35] <mbsw> last resort
[08:35] <JohnFlux> dougmo: hey!
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> dougmo, follow the guide it came with..
[08:35] <Homer> whats a good way to organize music on linux
[08:35] <JohnFlux> dougmo: i think you should just be able to use it now from the system control
[08:35] <Homer> can I make a dir in the root dir?
[08:35] <Homer> or should I save my music in my home directory?
[08:36] <cvt> |lostbyte|,   no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder
[08:36] <mbsw> home
[08:36] <JohnFlux> Homer: personally I have it in /mnt/raid
[08:36] <Homer> but then only my acct can listen to it right
[08:36] <JohnFlux> Homer: where I have a raid system
[08:36] <cvt> |lostbyte|,  it's brand new too
[08:36] <mbsw> don't screw with root
[08:36] <JohnFlux> Homer: there's not really a good solution
[08:36] <JohnFlux> Homer: i often put things in root :P
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> cvt, replace /dev/cdrom with the device.
[08:37] <mbsw> lostbyte is on the right track
[08:38] <tbe1985> Does anyone know yet whether KNetworkManager generally hangs at 28% on its own, or if the wireless device is using ndiswrapper?
[08:39] <|lostbyte|> tbe1985, device and model ?
[08:39] <ge2x> do firefox plugins work in konqueror?
[08:39] <Homer> ok OGG plays fine
[08:39] <Homer> how do I get MP3 to work
[08:40] <cvt> |lostbyte|,  how do i determine the path name?
[08:40] <Homer> without easyubuntu btw, I can't get that thing to do anything
[08:40] <tbe1985> The dreaded Broadcom wireless card in a Pavilion zv5000 series
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> Homer, in ?
[08:40] <Homer> in kde :)
[08:40] <Homer> amaork etc
[08:41] <mbsw> any Alaskans here?
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> cvt, whats your drive name ?
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> cvt, which company ?
[08:41] <cvt> atapi
[08:43] <tbe1985> Wireless works without a hitch with wlassistant, great speed and range, but networkmanager halts and so far no fixes in the forums :(
[08:43] <|lostbyte|> Homer, install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and libxine-extracodecs
[08:43] <cvt> bbl
[08:45] <Homer> thanks
[08:45] <Homer> but I actually got it working with easyubuntu
[08:46] <Homer> libdecss is for some reason missing the the apt sources and it screwed everything else up
[08:49] <bluesclues> sweet
[08:50] <h1234> if i install windows on mbr and install kubuntu on its root directory ie grub on root directory then will kbuntu boot on start up
[08:52] <Raul12> help any 1
[08:54] <Raul12> any help
[08:54] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, i dont think so.
[08:55] <Raul12> then what 2 do
[08:55] <|lostbyte|> unless you tell ntloaded where grub is.
[08:55] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, Put grub in mbr.
[08:56] <Raul12> but i have 3 linux os and that is diffcult to boot if any 1 of then is reinstall
[08:57] <Raul12> any ideas
[08:57] <Raul12> ^_^
[08:58] <Homer> shouldn't "sudo apt-get install koffice" work?
[08:58] <Homer> it worked but it didn't seem to add any icons
[08:58] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, tell any of the 3 linux with has grub or lilo, to boot all three distros.
[08:58] <Raul12> cusmon isnatall icons
[08:58] <Raul12> install
[08:59] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, have a look in .. /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:59] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, and you will get an idea how it really works.
[08:59] <Raul12> but if windows reinstall then again i have to rewrite the grub
[09:00] <Raul12> ok
[09:00] <|lostbyte|> Raul12, yes. you have to rewrite the grub.
[09:01] <dougmo> bummer, this driver requires you to use cups admin to set it up. and the cups driver is insisting on a root user and password. How to do that?
[09:01] <Raul12> hmm
[09:01] <Raul12> thanks 4 tips |lostbyte|
[09:01] <kraut> moin
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> np ;)
[09:05] <jmichaelx> if a person is configuring network/internet access, and a GUI  askes for "workstation name", would anyone know what it would be looking for?
[09:07] <notech> jmichaelx: any name, its a hostname
[09:07] <ajus> is there anyway i can make .sh shortcut in desktop.. and click it to run it?? help pls
[09:09] <jmichaelx> ok, i am trying to get net access with a mini-linux distro, and it is not detecting my nic, apparently
[09:09] <notech> ajmitch: and how would it know what filename.sh it was to run each time?
[09:09] <notech> grr
[09:09] <notech> ajus:  and how would it know what filename.sh it was to run each time?
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> ajus, rightclick > create new > link to application.
[09:10] <ajus> i have a wengo.sh and i want to click it to use.. instead of typing in terminal
[09:10] <dougmo> totally strange, the driver refused to work from the KDE printer control untill I futzed with the cups admin configuration. That bombed but now the laser printer did configure correctly from the KDE control panel. It works but why is a mystery to me.
[09:10] <intelikey> no. i'm not really here.
[09:11] <notech> oh, i see. didn't realize it was for one particular file
[09:11] <ajus> so.. like lostbyte said??
[09:11] <cam_> hello all I was having an issue while installing automatix...can some kind soul help me out a bit?
[09:12] <notech> ajus: worth a try, he may know better than me. i don't use kde
[09:12] <ajus> ok.. i'll tr
[09:12] <NeoSaki> anyone know how to get links in other programs, like xchat to launch firefox?
[09:13] <notech> NeoSaki: depends on xchat version, i think it differs. ask in #xchat cuz it can be done
[09:13] <ajus> lostbyte, notech, it's working great... TXH
[09:13] <dougmo> xchat to launch firefox?, right click then look at the options
[09:13] <ajus> THANKS
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, enable kclipper in kicker
[09:13] <intelikey> NeoSaki look into the preferances in the app
[09:14] <|lostbyte|> klipper
[09:14] <notech> dougmo: oh, didn't know kubuntu's xchat had it by default
[09:15] <dougmo> by default, Don't know that I haven't ran the kunbuntu xchat ver yet. I do know that it does from any other version of xchat I've ran.
[09:15] <notech> dougmo: oh, i've ran a version that had mozilla but no xchat.
[09:16] <notech> err, mozilla but no firefox
[09:17] <intelikey> also of note   /usr/bin/x-www-browser  can be set.
[09:18] <cam_>  was having an issue while installing automatix...can some kind soul help me out a bit?
[09:18] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, right click in this xchat > settings > advanced > url handelers :)
[09:18] <intelikey> cam_ yes.
[09:18] <NeoSaki> I don't see the advanced?
[09:18] <cam_> all was going well
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, i am on 2.6.1
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, I am on drapper drake.
[09:19] <NeoSaki> nvm got it
[09:20] <cam_> untill I got to the end, i followed the directions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294 and when I was done it said automatix wasn't there :(
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> NeoSaki, And if you want it Globaly, for other apts too, do like i said above.
[09:21] <cam_> I also got a "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." error somewhere along.
[09:21] <intelikey> cam_ use http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php/Automatix_for_Kubuntu
[09:21] <NeoSaki> i forget, how do you send a link to firefox via commandline?
[09:23] <|lostbyte|>  mozilla-firefox google.com
[09:25] <tbag> i am having trouble with cups web interface
[09:25] <tbag> anyone can help me?
[09:25] <cam_> would I be installing http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/kubuntu/main/binary-i386/automatix-kubuntu_6.5-1-6.06dapper1_i386.deb?
[09:25] <cam_> if so I assume I save it and open it somehow, but how and with what?
[09:26] <intelikey> use   sudo dpkg -i automatix-kubuntu_6.5-1-6.06dapper1_i386.deb
[09:26] <Blaat_> why does ark keep whining about not enough disk space? the disk im extracting to has more then enough space available
[09:26] <intelikey> to install it after the down load
[09:27] <sallychung> hey
[09:27] <sallychung> can someone help me
[09:27] <sallychung> with sound
[09:27] <sallychung> i cant get any sound
[09:27] <sallychung> from amarok
[09:27] <sallychung> or any of the players
[09:27] <intelikey> /beep
[09:28] <cam_> ok
[09:29] <cam_> it's saying :Selecting previously deselected package automatix.
[09:29] <intelikey> sallychung konsole   alsamixer
[09:29] <cam_> it's back at the #...whats next? Is that it?
[09:29] <intelikey> it's installed
[09:29] <cam_> there was no confirmation...
[09:30] <cam_> ?serious!
[09:30] <Hastesaver> sallychung, is it just mp3s or other sorts of files? And do other apps produce sound?
[09:30] <cam_> lol, how do I check?
[09:30] <sallychung> system soundswork
[09:30] <sallychung> im tryin to stream
[09:30] <intelikey> cam_ use it
[09:30] <cam_> is there a command? I'm sorry for being such an uber n00b
[09:30] <intelikey> cam_ learn tab completion in the CLI
[09:31] <intelikey> auto[tab-key]
[09:31] <intelikey> maybe two tabs
[09:31] <sallychung> wat should i do in alsamixer
[09:31] <intelikey> auto[tab-key] +[tab-key]
[09:32] <intelikey> sallychung are the volumes all up somewhat ?   anything muted ?
[09:32] <cam_> I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean..."CLI"?
[09:32] <intelikey> command line interface
[09:32] <intelikey> !cli
[09:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:33] <cam_> duh! Ok...
[09:34] <sallychung> ok everything is unmuted
[09:34] <NeoSaki> <3 Yakuake
[09:34] <intelikey> sallychung any sound ?
[09:34] <bluesclues> whenever i shut down when im logged in, i gett a black screen w/ two rectangles then the computer shuts down after about 20 seconds or so
[09:35] <bluesclues> why i am i not gettin gmy usplash. is this prblme with xserver or soemthing
[09:35] <bluesclues> if i shut down from kdm its normal however
[09:36] <sallychung> no sound
[09:36] <intelikey> sallychung konsole; cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp       use ^C   that's  "control C"   to stop it.
[09:36] <intelikey> should be white noise
[09:38] <intelikey> that step is a hardware test  if it fails check the speeker/power/wires
[09:38] <sallychung> nothing
[09:38] <sallychung> no sound
[09:38] <Hastesaver> intelikey, /dev/urandom has better results
[09:38] <intelikey> Hastesaver you say
[09:39] <sallychung> ye i think i am deaf now
[09:39] <sallychung> thanks hastesaver
[09:39] <cam_> it's installed!Thank you so very  much. I was going insane messing with this! inlikey you're guru of gurus!
[09:39] <Homer> amarok is hot
[09:39] <sallychung> ok... intelikey... i got noise... from urandom
[09:40] <sallychung> wats next?
[09:40] <Homer> I'm happy I finally got this linux system working flawlessly
[09:40] <intelikey> it's in your kde settings or application settings make sure that the app is outputing to " alsa "
[09:41] <Hastesaver> sallychung, are there other apps that make sound? Are there any files that Amarok plays at all?
[09:41] <intelikey> sallychung ^
[09:42] <intelikey> we didn't do all this to find that it's an mp3 that isn't working did we  ;S
[09:42] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:42] <sallychung> im tryin to get stream
[09:42] <sallychung> internet radio
[09:42] <sallychung> shoutcast...
[09:42] <Homer> !xgl
[09:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:42] <sallychung> im not sure if other mp3's play
[09:42] <sallychung> i dont have any files on this hdd
[09:43] <sallychung> there are system sounds
[09:43] <sallychung> on amarok and xmms... there is a sign that its streaming...just no sound
[09:43] <intelikey> !mp3 > sallychung
[09:44] <sallychung> wat??
[09:44] <ketsugi> How can I turn on font antialiasing for my Gnome apps?
[09:44] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:44] <intelikey> sallychung ^
[09:44] <intelikey> that
[09:46] <Hastesaver> sallychung, it may be something wrong with mp3s, or something wrong with streaming, or something wrong with Amarok. We have to first find out which. So download an mp3 from somewhere, and test whether Amarok plays it first.
[09:47] <sallychung> maybe the question i should ask is....wats the best player to use for streaming
[09:48] <Hastesaver> sallychung, if Amarok works, it's the best, of course :-)
[09:48] <sallychung> haha
[09:48] <sallychung> ok
[09:48] <sallychung> let me get a mp3
[09:48] <intelikey> no.    best is subjective and starts fights.   what is a good player would be a much better Q
[09:48] <intelikey> !vlc
[09:48] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:49] <intelikey> there's a list of good ones ^
[09:50] <Hastesaver> intelikey, nice. But why !vlc? ...
[09:50] <Hastesaver> !amarok
[09:50] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[09:50] <intelikey> any more questions ?
[09:50] <TheFuzzball> is there a channel where people talk about flash on linux?
[09:50] <intelikey> :)
[09:51] <flaccid> TheFuzzball: #osflash
[09:51] <Hastesaver> intelikey, why is !vlc set to a general list while !amarok is set to something specific? :-)
[09:51] <TheFuzzball> flaccid: thanks
[09:51] <intelikey> TheFuzzball ##linux is pretty open to that sort of thing
[09:51] <Homer> soooo
[09:51] <sallychung> haha...wat app can i use to download music lol
[09:51] <Homer> what is a good program under linux to get "fair use backups" of music? :p
[09:52] <Homer> sallychung: lol
[09:52] <Shadow850031> hello everyone
[09:52] <intelikey> Hastesaver cause the bot owner or one of the mantainers don't care much for vlc    "vlc is not the 'default' so always point them to the default"  it's the *buntu way.   it sux but it's the *buntu way.
[09:53] <Hastesaver> sallychung, get a public domain mp3 from the web. Try Creative Commons or something, not something illegal :-)
[09:53] <Shadow850031> I have problems installing Kubuntu on my system. Can anyone help me?
[09:54] <intelikey> the general attitude is; it's default, therefore it's "BEST".    but there again "every mama crow's little crow, is always the blackest crow"
[09:55] <Shadow850031> When I should see KDE, I only see... well... quite collorful and chaotic view
[09:56] <Shadow850031> and I cant even to launch the installation since it is launched using icon when live cd starts
[09:56] <voicu> Shadow850031: you can install using the text mode
[09:56] <intelikey> Shadow850031 reconfig X and don't use vesa use the driver for your card
[09:57] <Shadow850031> how can i do this?
[09:57] <Shadow850031> i have shipped Kubuntu cd recently
[09:57] <Shadow850031> all I need is to know ho to install system in text mode
[09:57] <intelikey> Shadow850031 console: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      then restart X
[09:58] <intelikey> there is no test mode install on the live CD
[09:58] <voicu> oh, sorry, i thought you had the dvd...
[09:59] <cam_> intelikey, so far so good,everything seems to be installing...
[09:59] <intelikey> cam_ you're welcome
[09:59] <Shadow850031> thanks, I'll try
[09:59] <cam_> I'm crossing my fingers, thank you!
[10:01] <intelikey> cam_ out of curiosity, what are you using automatix for ?    i've never used it...
[10:01] <lupine_85> the Ubuntu equivalent of Hari-Kari? ;)
[10:01] <intelikey> lupine_85 lol
[10:01] <cam_> ...I wanted to painlessly install mp3, dvd...flash...
[10:02] <lupine_85> no, hari-kari is not painless.
[10:02] <intelikey> hari-kari 101
[10:02] <cam_> a few appz. automatix is pretty new to me, I used SUSE for a while...
[10:03] <lupine_85> ah, well, unlike SuSE, Ubuntu has a sane and fast packaging system
[10:03] <lupine_85> 5 minutes of googling and 10 minutes of repo-leeching, and you're done
[10:03] <cam_> I recently got an old Dell and some RAM and decided to try Kubuntu, I have it on a seperate HD and Xp on the other.
[10:03] <lupine_85> no need for a bucket, either
[10:03] <intelikey> lupine_85 yeah that i always seem to break
[10:03] <cam_> yeah SUSE sucks for that...dependancy hell :(
[10:04] <lupine_85> SuSE depends on RPM... that's the biggest Hel there is :(
[10:04] <intelikey> i've had more nightmares with dpkg in one year than i did in the previous 5 with urpmi
[10:04] <cam_> well sucks is a harsh, but i hate RPM's with a passion, there was always something breaking or messed up
[10:04] <Hastesaver> lupine_85, what's the Googling for?
[10:04] <lupine_85> finding the appropriate repos for what you want to do.
[10:05] <lupine_85> e.g. "wmv 9 in ubuntu"
[10:06] <Hastesaver> sallychung, still here?
[10:06] <Hastesaver> lupine_85, I thought !easysource was a pretty exhaustive list
[10:06] <intelikey> and all the broken dpkg errors were with the default repos
[10:06] <lupine_85> never heard of it :)
[10:06] <Hastesaver> lupine_85, I meant http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:07] <Arepie> !firefox
[10:07] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:07] <sallychung> ye
[10:07] <sallychung> im here
[10:07] <sallychung> im tryin to get some file lol
[10:07] <cam_> I used to always have issues with Firefox on SUSE i switch to Opera, hopefully when I'm done FF will work correctly.
[10:08] <Hastesaver> sallychung, lol. Try downloading http://ff123.net/samples/BlueEyesTrimmed.mp3 and playing it
[10:08] <intelikey> ff is way to heavy for my tastes
[10:09] <Hastesaver> intelikey, how come? I've never had any dependency hell...
[10:09] <intelikey> i didn't say anything about deps
[10:10] <Arepie> !flash64bit
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash64bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <Arepie> arghhh..
[10:11] <intelikey> Hastesaver i've had apt/dpkg fubar'd about five times in a year.  only fix i could manage was a full reload.
[10:11] <Hastesaver> intelikey, oh... and what were you trying to do? (So that I can avoid it ;-)
[10:13] <intelikey> just install some apps.   too many at one time broke it one time.   i'm not sure about the other four times.  oh yeah  one time it was an error in some post/pre/remove/install scripts  they are set to #!/bin/bash  which cant work unless bash is installed and configured so you cant install bash cause dpkg is hosed.....  things like that.
[10:13] <sallychung> ok
[10:13] <sallychung> no sound
[10:15] <intelikey> package builders should know that #!/bin/sh is posix compliant  but #!/bin/bash is not.  anything that uses bash should depend on bash
[10:16] <intelikey> dpkg does not depend on bash.  so that breaks posix
[10:16] <fdoving> are you using edgy=
[10:16] <fdoving> ?
[10:16] <intelikey> fdoving addressing whom ?
[10:16] <fdoving> you.
[10:17] <intelikey> no just answering a question
[10:17] <intelikey> ranting a little    i guess
[10:17] <fdoving> ok, what you say is not true for pre edgy releases.
[10:17] <intelikey> excuse me ?
[10:17] <Hastesaver> sallychung, try playing /usr/share/example-content/ubuntu\ Sax.ogg
[10:18] <sallychung> sax.ogg doesnt exist
[10:18] <fdoving> intelikey: bash has priority required, you'll get an warning if you try to uninstall it.
[10:19] <Hastesaver> sallychung, not sax.ogg, find an ogg file in /usr/share/example-content and play it
[10:19] <fdoving> intelikey: if you still do, it's not apt/dpkgs fault it breaks because you remove it's dependencies.
[10:20] <fdoving> intelikey: however, for edgy, the situation you describe, could become true, as /bin/sh (which in pre edgy releases has been provided by bash) will be provided by dash.
[10:20] <intelikey> fdoving it is.  it's not dpkg that depends on bash it's ubuntu-base  thus it's the packages that use bash for the post/pre install scripts that are at fault.  they should follow posix
[10:20] <cam_> it's stilling installing appz...
[10:21] <cam_> *still
[10:21] <intelikey> fdoving and dash has always been an optional /bin/sh
[10:21] <Hastesaver> Is Wikipedia down again?
[10:21] <fdoving> intelikey: check 'dpkg -s bash|grep Priority'
[10:22] <sallychung> not playin ogg file
[10:22] <fdoving> intelikey: -optional- not default. You're always welcome to break your system, but don't blame dpkg/apt because you did. :)
[10:22] <sallychung> ...
[10:22] <sallychung> no sound...
[10:22] <fdoving> Hastesaver: works for me.
[10:23] <sallychung> the file plays...but there is no sound
[10:23] <Hastesaver> fdoving, Wikipedia is working for me too now. Weird. Thanks
[10:24] <Hastesaver> sallychung, try other players (xmms, ...)
[10:25] <intelikey> fdoving so what was "my" fault the other four times it puked out on me    lol
[10:25] <intelikey> when bash was installed.  and all "required" packages
[10:25] <intelikey> but anyway.   it still breaks posix for dpkg scripts to start with #!/bin/bash
[10:26] <ketsugi> How can I turn on font antialiasing for my Gnome apps?
[10:26] <ketsugi> Thunderbird, for example
[10:27] <sallychung> umm i'm using xmms
[10:27] <sallychung> the analyser is workign but no sound
[10:27] <intelikey> example; /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst:#!/bin/bash
[10:28] <intelikey> also /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.preinst:#!/bin/bash
[10:28] <intelikey> also /var/lib/dpkg/info/vim-common.preinst:#!/bin/bash -e
[10:28] <sallychung> no sound
[10:30] <Hastesaver> !sound
[10:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:34] <Hastesaver> so what is missing in dash?
[10:38] <NeoSaki> Anyone know of a good Sega emulator for linux?
[10:39] <sallychung> nothing's working
[10:40] <sallychung> hastesaver
[10:40] <sallychung> nothing works
[10:41] <fdoving> intelikey: it's nothing wrong in using bash as long as you have a bash shebang-line. what's not a good thing, is having a /bin/sh shebang line, and use bash-features.
[10:41] <fdoving> intelikey: you can even use perl in those scripts. if you really want to.
[10:44] <sallychung> ok..bye then...thanks for helping
[10:56] <xoxo> hello how do i change from single click to double click in kubuntu?
[10:57] <fdoving> xoxo: kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> mouse
[10:57] <daniloc> fdoving: private please?
[10:58] <xoxo> thanks
[10:58] <fdoving> daniloc: if it's kubuntu releated would appriciate that we keep it in the channel.
[10:58] <daniloc> ok
[10:58] <daniloc> man, i update in adept kernel source yesterday
[10:59] <fdoving> daniloc: that way others can benefit and help too.
[10:59] <daniloc> and i restarted my computer
[10:59] <daniloc> and my wifi card dont work
[10:59] <cox377> unlucky
[10:59] <daniloc> when on boot a use old kernel wifi work
[10:59] <daniloc> why?
[10:59] <daniloc> my english is bad, and i hope u understand me
[10:59] <fdoving> daniloc: check that you have the package 'linux-restricted-modules' installed.
[11:00] <flaccid> !vpn
[11:00] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:00] <daniloc> i now installing kernel-source-2.4.27
[11:00] <daniloc> i cant check it now
[11:01] <daniloc> !seen asset
[11:01] <ubotu> I haven't seen asset recently
[11:02] <daniloc> fdoving: after this upgrade what i need to do ?
[11:02] <daniloc> to work my wifi on 2.4.27 kernel
[11:02] <fdoving> daniloc: what's the wifi card?
[11:03] <fdoving> daniloc: 2.4.27 ? what kubuntu version is this?
[11:03] <daniloc> 6.06
[11:03] <wizard123> hi!
[11:03] <daniloc> wifi card working man
[11:03] <daniloc> but i am now at old kernel
[11:03] <daniloc> i update it yesterday, and after restart wifi dont work
[11:03] <fdoving> daniloc: 2.4.27 - you really don'
[11:03] <fdoving> t want 2.4.27
[11:03] <fdoving> daniloc: what wifi card?
[11:04] <wizard123> i need help with sudo.. can somebody pastebin default /etc/sudoers ?
[11:05] <daniloc> fdoving: Pheenet Texas Instruments
[11:06] <daniloc> ?
[11:06] <flaccid> is the !vpn pptpd page a routed or bridged vpn?
[11:06] <fdoving> daniloc: pcmcia?
[11:06] <daniloc> yes
[11:06] <daniloc> no
[11:06] <daniloc> np
[11:06] <daniloc> no
[11:06] <daniloc> Pci
[11:07] <daniloc> PCI
[11:07] <fdoving> flaccid: that's not a bridge.
[11:07] <fdoving> daniloc: ok, can you post the output of 'lspci -v' to http://rafb.net/paste ?
[11:07] <daniloc> wait
[11:08] <fdoving> flaccid: are you setting up server and clients or just client?
[11:08] <daniloc> fdoving: all or ?
[11:08] <fdoving> daniloc: if you find the section for the network card, you can post just that. but all is ok too.
[11:09] <cam_> should I replace my source lsit wiith automatixs'?
[11:09] <cam_> *list
[11:09] <daniloc> ok fdoving
[11:09] <fdoving> flaccid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer
[11:09] <fdoving> !automatix
[11:09] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:09] <fdoving> cam_: ^^
[11:10] <cam_> so I should do it?
[11:10] <cam_> yeah nay?
[11:10] <flaccid> fdoving: to be honest i want to play cs lan games through vpn due to someone stealing my keys