[12:00] <HrdwrBoB> spudse: abiword is in main, that should already be in synaptiv
[12:00] <HrdwrBoB> synaptic
[12:00] <LarstiQ> Espectro: hmm
[12:00] <spudse> i couldnt find it
[12:01] <Espectro> i downloaded this thing because it said that it was the proper live cd build for mac, but it was built against hoary which was a bad idea
[12:01] <spudse> but those packages from sybaptiv get downloaded from the internet right ?
[12:01] <Espectro> i would have liked a stable warty for mac
[12:01] <bitfoo> does anyone here use mplayer :|
[12:01] <HrdwrBoB> spudse: yes
[12:02] <spudse> I dont have a internet connection
[12:02] <spudse> on my laptop
[12:02] <spudse> so i thought to download it to my usbstick
[12:02] <spudse> and install in manually
[12:02] <Espectro> spudse, like i said, man dpkg
[12:02] <LarstiQ> Espectro: me too, but at the warty release there was no ppc livecd yet. Perhaps we can still get one if we ask nicely
[12:02] <spudse> yes i understand, but i need to have the files first
[12:03] <spudse> I need something like abiword.deb i suppose ?
[12:03] <Espectro> yeah, see if they have the debs at the abiword page
[12:03] <avsn> need help here -- is there a default password to su root on the live cd?
[12:04] <LarstiQ> avsn: doesn't sudo just work?
[12:04] <avsn> i went to terminal to do su root
[12:04] <zazeem> hi, i am using totem movie player to watch an avi file but it freezes everytime..:(
[12:04] <zazeem> any sugs
[12:05] <Espectro> try compiling totem yourself
[12:05] <zazeem> ?
[12:08] <avsn> curiosity here who is where
[12:08] <avsn> avsn:seattle usa
[12:08] <Sav> anyone got .wmv files to work? i only get sound, no video
[12:09] <hitu> Sav get the essential codecs from mplayer.hu
[12:10] <Espectro> whee
[12:10] <Sav> hitu, works with vlc?
[12:10] <hitu> dunno
[12:10] <Espectro> i hate your charles de gaulle airport
[12:11] <[amasimak] > :)
[12:11] <Espectro> you need to get on buses to reach the planes, and the drivers went on strike the day i was there
[12:11] <r3v3rb> any bluetooth guru's here tonight ?
[12:11] <hitu> okay
[12:12] <hitu> booting into new kernel
[12:12] <hitu> brb
[12:12] <r3v3rb> i have hoary installed and working, i can transfer files from phone to ubuntu but not the other way. gnome-bluetooth shows the phone but what do i do now ?
[12:12] <r3v3rb> i have also installed obexserver just in case
[12:15] <r3v3rb> noone in 2nite that talks bluetooth ?
[12:15] <gobeavs> when I try to start synaptic, I get: "Error: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: Child terminated with 1 status"....any ideas?
[12:15] <gobeavs> I reinstalled it via apt, but it still has problems
[12:16] <mebaran151> you sure you running it as root?
[12:16] <mebaran151> maybe you are giving it the wrong password or something
[12:17] <gobeavs> nevermind, ya
[12:17] <AndyRR> gobeavs, are you using the user you setup when you installed?
[12:17] <zazeem> anyone know how to install divx for linux
[12:17] <r3v3rb> zazeem just install xine-ui and its dependancies
[12:17] <zazeem> ?
[12:17] <zazeem> is that divx?
[12:17] <r3v3rb> to watch or encode ?
[12:18] <zazeem> watch
[12:18] <gobeavs> I get confused which ps is root
[12:18] <gobeavs> it wants my regular password
[12:18] <gobeavs> not my "root" password
[12:18] <r3v3rb> use xine its a very good divx/xvid/etc etc player
[12:18] <zazeem> wooot thnx
[12:18] <r3v3rb> or try intalling totem-xine and its dependancies
[12:19] <r3v3rb> as long as xine-lib gets installed you should be okay
[12:19] <AndyRR> gobeavs, i pretty sure you need to be logged in as the first user you setup when you installed
[12:19] <spudse> what is the standard sudo password ?
[12:19] <randabis> spudse, your user password
[12:19] <HrdwrBoB> spudse: your password
[12:19] <r3v3rb> spudse whatever you gave it at install
[12:19] <no0tic> hi
[12:19] <dud> your sudo password is the password for the sudoer
[12:19] <no0tic> I don't want apache to log in access_log SEARCH commands, ho can I do?
[12:19] <r3v3rb> anyone got any idea about the bluetooth ?
[12:20] <spudse> thanks
[12:20] <AndyRR> or logged in as anyone in sudo group?
[12:20] <dud> oh, btw... http://www.dudcore.net/reprofile/ <-- honest opinion on design folks...?
[12:20] <spudse> but the status database area is locked by another proces ?
[12:20] <r3v3rb> dud, the tables arent centred properly...
[12:20] <randabis> you probably have synaptic open spudse
[12:21] <r3v3rb> above each other that is
[12:21] <spudse> yes :)
[12:21] <randabis> spudse, you'll have to close it before you can issue apt-gets
[12:21] <randabis> or dpkg
[12:21] <spudse> okido
[12:21] <r3v3rb> bluetooth bluetooth ra ra raaaa raa
[12:21] <spudse> im getting to learn this linux stuff :)
[12:21] <r3v3rb> help me help me help help me
[12:22] <zazeem> k im playing a divx movie and have sound but no video :'(
[12:22] <dud> r3v3rb, supposed to be centered like that... a bit asymmetrical order makes it more exciting ;)
[12:22] <zazeem> ?
[12:22] <r3v3rb> zazeem, check you have the correct video output in options
[12:23] <zazeem> meaning?
[12:23] <zazeem> wf it works now
[12:23] <r3v3rb> xv is usually good
[12:23] <zazeem> i restarted lol
[12:23] <zazeem> :D
[12:23] <zazeem> tthnx
[12:23] <r3v3rb> that might help
[12:23] <r3v3rb> do i need to mount a bluetooth device ?
[12:24] <gobeavs> AndyRR, thanks for the help but I got it figured out, I had the wrong password
[12:24] <zOap> hile, does ubuntu support gdesklets 0.32*?
[12:24] <zOap> sorry, hi...
[12:24] <AndyRR> gobeavs, ah good
[12:25] <zOap> anybody knows?
[12:25] <kbrooks> zOap, maybe universe
[12:26] <zOap> kkb: universe?
[12:26] <zOap> kkb,
[12:26] <zOap> kb,
[12:26] <r3v3rb> repository ?
[12:26] <kbrooks> yup
[12:26] <zOap> kbrooks, what is that?
[12:27] <kbrooks> see http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:27] <zOap> kbrooks, thnx
[12:27] <r3v3rb> bugger, time to go and no bluetooth working,.. :(
[12:27] <kbrooks> zOap, basically its a repoistory of unsupported packages that may or may not be open source
[12:28] <zOap> kbrooks, ok, so ubuntu doesnt oficially support gdesklets?
[12:29] <kbrooks> zOap, maybe. enable it and search synaptic
[12:29] <zOap> kbrooks, havent installed it yet. Just trying to do some research...
[12:29] <K-Rich> i use gdesklets in warty
[12:29] <zOap> ok, then i'll try too.
[12:30] <spudse> i just installed abiword with dpkg, where can i start it now ?
[12:30] <K-Rich> though you need to tell nautilus to open the .displays with gdesklets or you get errors (right click open with)
[12:30] <zOap> what about managing devices and stuff, like libranet's adminmenu? is there anything like that in ubuntu?
[12:30] <zOap> K-r, ok, thanx
[12:30] <FAST> where is a place to get more background images?
[12:31] <zazeem> how do i shutoff the x server?
[12:31] <zazeem> it keeps restarting when i start wolfenstein
[12:31] <r3v3rb> where do i find gdesklets after installing ?
[12:32] <zazeem> ??????????
[12:32] <zazeem> ow do i kill the x server
[12:32] <zazeem> something stop
[12:34] <timello> hi there, where can I put a script to execute evertime that I login between the gdm?
[12:34] <balc> Could someone tell me the linux equivalent to winamp's radio/tv component?  I'd like to have an integrated way to access shoutcast stations without searching through it with a web browser.
[12:35] <timello> s/between/through
[12:36] <spudse> Is a launcher, a shortcut like in windows ?
[12:36] <AndyRR> music player?
[12:36] <shock> ?
[12:36] <FAST> spudse, yes
[12:36] <timello> spudse, is it for me? no a shell script
[12:36] <shock> a launcher is essentially just something you can click on
[12:36] <arturo> hello
[12:36] <zazeem> hi how do i turn x server off in gnome?
[12:36] <shock> hoi
[12:37] <zazeem> it keeps crashing wolfenstein
[12:37] <zazeem> x server off in ubuntu
[12:37] <arturo> i need to install php on my ubuntu system
[12:37] <shock> ermmm the xserver you will need ;)
[12:37] <zazeem> something
[12:37] <shock> apt-cache search php :)
[12:37] <zazeem> it keeps restarting
[12:37] <shock> hm
[12:37] <arturo> but when i use apt-get it doesnt work!
[12:37] <zazeem> it restarts to nvidia logo then login :(
[12:38] <zazeem> i forgot the cmd
[12:38] <timello> spudse, I created a xinitrc, but gdm doesn't read it
[12:38] <zazeem> its lms.... i think something stop
[12:38] <shock> brb
[12:38] <zazeem> k
[12:38] <balc> music player doesnt automatically search shoutcast
[12:38] <spudse> timello, that was a question for myself :) im totally new
[12:39] <dud> zazeem, if you have any experience with inittab and rc you can make it so that init 2 doesnt start gdm, but init 3 does
[12:39] <zazeem> ?
[12:39] <timello> spudse, np :)
[12:39] <zazeem> how do i make it not
[12:40] <zazeem> whats cmd
[12:40] <zazeem> a guy gave me it yesterday
[12:40] <zazeem> but i forgot and reinstalled ubuntu
[12:40] <zazeem> lol
[12:40] <zazeem> it ran et
[12:40] <zazeem> it was something then stop at end
[12:40] <no0tic> how do I eliminate from a file all the lines containing a pattern?
[12:40] <sirukin> ubuntu hates me.
[12:40] <zazeem>  .../.../../ stop
[12:40] <dud> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:40] <dud> i suppose
[12:40] <zazeem> yessssssssss!
[12:40] <zazeem> thnx
[12:41] <sirukin> tried compiling xchat, and I have no perl or python modules
[12:41] <zazeem> ill try it
[12:41] <zazeem> if i hget kicked u know why
[12:41] <LinuxJones> sirukin, why are yo compiling xchat ?
[12:41] <arturo> can somebody help me with my php installantion?
[12:42] <no0tic> root_: you are using xchat & root account?
[12:42] <arturo> anybody?
[12:42] <sirukin> linuxboy, I don't believe in running old ass peice of trash packages.
[12:42] <sirukin> err
[12:42] <sirukin> linuxjones
[12:42] <arturo> nobody :(
[12:42] <zazeem> didnt work :'(
[12:42] <LinuxJones> sirukin, lol
[12:42] <arturo> no
[12:42] <melazyboy2> sirukin: Are you using hoary or warty/
[12:43] <dud> if you think ubuntu warty has old packages, try running debian woody hehe
[12:43] <root_> yeah, very perceptive there no0tic
[12:43] <zazeem> anyone know how to set resolution in login
[12:43] <zazeem> ?
[12:43] <zazeem> its too high i cant see shit
[12:43] <no0tic> root_: it's not a good idea, you know?
[12:43] <ArCHoNKoG> when will hoary be out ?
[12:43] <melazyboy2> take out resolutions you dont want in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <Guardiann> aoril
[12:43] <no0tic> ArCHoNKoG: april?
[12:43] <Guardiann> april
[12:43] <root_> no0tic: why
[12:44] <ArCHoNKoG> is it still buggy ?
[12:44] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:44] <zazeem> bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory?
[12:44] <Guardiann> its running well for me
[12:44] <melazyboy2> zazeem: or you can CTRL ALT +/- to change resolutions in either gdm or X
[12:44] <dud> applications with has a non-encrypted interface to external networks shouldnt run as root unless they need
[12:44] <no0tic> root_: root account is for administration tasks, never go out on the internet with it, without protection
[12:44] <AndyRR> hoary seems fine here
[12:44] <sirukin> hmm
[12:44] <sirukin> anyway
[12:44] <dud> s/with/which
[12:44] <melazyboy2> zazeem: Try /etc/X11/XFree86-4
[12:44] <sirukin> I'm done with Ubuntu resolving dependancies all day isn't fun
[12:45] <kbrooks> sirukin, :(
[12:45] <zazeem> bash: /etc/X11/XFree86-4: No such file or directory
[12:45] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XFree86-4
[12:45] <trakal> Is there anyway of changing the keyboard layout to dvorak(us/en/ca) in GNOME?
[12:45] <melazyboy2> trakal: Yes type loadkeys dvorak
[12:45] <LinuxJones> sirukin, that's what happens when you compile from source :D
[12:45] <trakal> thanks
[12:45] <no0tic> root_: if you run xchat with root privileges, for example, one can use an xchat bug to gain admin privileges on your machine and mess it up
[12:45] <sirukin> at the end of the day, I'd just like to download the latest distro and compile my packages from source
[12:45] <zazeem> bash: /etc/X11/XFree86-4: No such file or directory
[12:45] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XFree86-4
[12:45] <r3v3rb> nite all
[12:45] <zazeem> :|
[12:45] <melazyboy2> trakal: be prepaired to type loadkeys qwerty or loadkeys us, using that typeclass
[12:45] <sirukin> that or a repository that has bleeding edge packages
[12:46] <sirukin> s/distro/app/g
[12:46] <no0tic> root_: is very very safer using another user
[12:46] <timello> zazeem, do you know which file can I put a script to run in the login and logout?
[12:46] <DaviX> greeting people
[12:46] <trakal> melazyboy2: Thanks
[12:46] <zazeem> no
[12:46] <root_> Then I can't mod my system.
[12:46] <Guardiann> hello DaviX
[12:46] <melazyboy2> zazeem: browse there, and look for it, its in /etc/X11/ either xorg.conf or XFree86-4
[12:46] <root_> Permissions suck
[12:46] <zazeem> how do i edit my resolution cfg
[12:46] <DaviX> how are you Guardiann?
[12:46] <melazyboy2> zazeem: 'ls /etc/X11'
[12:46] <no0tic> root_: permissions don't suck, you don't use ubuntu though
[12:46] <Guardiann> I am amazing  but I will get better  thanks for asking
[12:47] <XhyldazhK> Hi all
[12:47] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ ls /etc/X11
[12:47] <zazeem> app-defaults             rstart               xinit       Xsession.options
[12:47] <zazeem> cursors                  sysconfig            xkb         xsm
[12:47] <zazeem> default-display-manager  X                    Xresources  Xwrapper.config
[12:47] <zazeem> fonts                    XF86Config-4         xserver
[12:47] <zazeem> gdm                      XF86Config-4~        Xsession
[12:47] <no0tic> root_: you can gain root previleges to do admin in a shell or via sudo
[12:47] <zazeem> rgb.txt                  XF86Config-4_backup  Xsession.d
[12:47] <XhyldazhK> How do I build a kernel image/headers package?
[12:47] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $
[12:47] <zazeem> woops flood
[12:47] <DaviX> how can i make my ubuntu support hebrew?
[12:47] <Guardiann> zazeem why do you keep doing that
[12:47] <root_> wow thanks for that no0tic
[12:47] <melazyboy2> zazeem: XF86Config-4
[12:47] <no0tic> root_: simply sudo <command> will do it with root privileges if you are in /etc/sudoers
[12:47] <trakal> melazyboy2: Hmm... That didn't seem to work. Type that into a shell right?
[12:48] <zazeem> melazyboy hoe do i select it
[12:48] <root_> I know that
[12:48] <no0tic> root_: either you can temporarily login as root via: $su -l root
[12:48] <encryptio> if you set a root password
[12:48] <zazeem> guardiann
[12:49] <no0tic> root_: it's not a good idea, I told you.
[12:49] <zazeem> how do i select
[12:49] <root_> Nautilus and Text Editor should let ou authenticate live OSX and BBedit
[12:49] <zazeem> ls /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[12:49] <zazeem> ?
[12:49] <faxons> I'm trying to upgrade to hoary from warty and having some X problems
[12:49] <melazyboy2> XhyldazhK: you can either use the debian package: kernel-package, or get the sources
[12:49] <encryptio> faxons: you're not the only one
[12:50] <no0tic> root_: you are right
[12:50] <LinuxJones> faxons, lots of fun with Hoary + Xorg
[12:50] <jdub> XhyldazhK: search for linux-headers and linux-source
[12:50] <melazyboy2> trakal: yes 'loadkeys dvorak', im not sure it will work for all shells, but it should work for what ever shell you do it in
[12:50] <zazeem> linuxjones, ls /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? how do i edit
[12:50] <no0tic> root_: mac rulez...
[12:50] <faxons> :) what XF86 packages do I need to remove?
[12:50] <root_> I'm bored with mac though
[12:50] <no0tic> root_: but in OSX you don't use admin, I suppose
[12:50] <LinuxJones> zazeem, nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[12:51] <XhyldazhK> jdub, I need to patch my kernel with kdb
[12:51] <melazyboy2> zazeem: try, 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[12:51] <faxons> LinuxJones: is there some docs on this that I missed?
[12:51] <trakal> melazyboy2: All I'm getting is "couldn't get a file descriptor referring to console".
[12:51] <XhyldazhK> I compiled my kernel, but it doesn't locate its modules and fails
[12:51] <root_> Yes I am an admin on my OSX system. Of course.
[12:51] <XhyldazhK> so I think if I compile and istall it the official way it will work
[12:51] <no0tic> root_: you can run gedit with root privileges, if u need to edit a system file
[12:51] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> send me if u can help me pls?
[12:51] <LinuxJones> faxons, what problem are you having ?
[12:51] <no0tic> root_: but you use admin for daily tasks?
[12:52] <zazeem> didnt work :'(
[12:52] <faxons> LinuxJones: X just doesn't start
[12:52] <melazyboy2> trakal: Do it through X =/ loadkeys aparently doesn't work in terminals
[12:52] <root_> You don't know what your on about no0tic, no offense
[12:52] <faxons> LinuxJones: startx brings up a session
[12:52] <no0tic> root_: yes, root_, yes
[12:52] <LinuxJones> faxons, you can try xorgconfig
[12:52] <melazyboy2> trakal: desktop -> prefrences -> keyboard
[12:53] <no0tic> root_: tell me something you know, so I can change my ideas
[12:53] <faxons> LinuxJones: I think it's a package problem
[12:53] <root_> I have an account in 10.3 with admin priviledges. To use them I type a code
[12:53] <LinuxJones> faxons, it will walk you through setting up xorg. If there is an XF86Config-4 file in the X11 directory it seems to want to use that file for some reason.
[12:53] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> i need help?
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> i need help pls?
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:54] <faxons> LinuxJones: the live CD comes up fine and I "borrowed" the xorg.conf file
[12:54] <dud> try asking a question then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: please change your nick to something readable
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> http://www.cheatplanet.com/ps2cheats/onimusha_3_demon_siege.htm
[12:54] <kbrooks> shoot
[12:54] <randabis> wtf
[12:54] <LinuxJones> faxons, did you dis-upgrade ?
[12:54] <melazyboy2> trakal: or you can edit xorg.conf/XF86Config-4 and change XkbLayout to "dvorak"
[12:54] <kbrooks> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, offtopic
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:54] <LinuxJones> faxons, err dist-upgrade
[12:54] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:54] <kbrooks> i demand you get out of the room, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:54] <dud> ber off-topic hehe
[12:55] <zazeem> melazy, none of those cfg lines worked :'(
[12:55] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:55] <LinuxJones> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, please change your name it's driving me crazy :(
[12:55] <root_> Try Computer>Desktop>Keyboard
[12:55] <randabis> this is a ubuntu support channel, not a game support channel
[12:55] <no0tic> root_: thank you for the precius words
[12:55] <faxons> yea, I had a dependency fail but running apt-get upgrade seemed to finish ok
[12:55] <randabis> Also, stop spamming
[12:55] <root_> Put on Dvorak and cut USQWE
[12:55] <trakal> melazyboy2: OK I got it. I just accidently hit the expand on dvorak, which just gave me the option of specific dvorak layouts.
[12:55] <no0tic> root_: I didn't know that you set up a password for admin...
[12:55] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/onimusha_3_a.txt
[12:55] <root_> It works fine except for login
[12:55] <kbrooks> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, OFFTOPIC
[12:56] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> ??
[12:56] <kbrooks> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, and i mean offtopic
[12:56] <kbrooks> and i mean it.
[12:56] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> no
[12:56] <kbrooks> yes
[12:56] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> no
[12:56] <trakal> melazboy2: Works now, thanks a lot.
[12:56] <kbrooks> yes
[12:56] <root_> The loginscreen stays qwelty which is annoying
[12:56] <LinuxJones> jdub please kick this guy ?
[12:56] <dud> this channel has nothing to do about either onimusha or cheats OR games
[12:56] <faxons> LinuxJones: by running apt-get update with a faild dist-upgrade did I screw the install?
[12:57] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> i need help?
[12:57] <melazyboy2> what this isn't a gaming channel?
[12:57] <dud> try apt-get -f install faxons
[12:57] <jnkjnbjk> ??
[12:57] <randabis> stop spamming/flooding our channel please
[12:57] <randabis> you need to find somewhere else to ask for the help you requrie
[12:57] <randabis> require even
[12:57] <melazyboy2> jnkjnbjk: your going to want to up-down-left-right-jump-jump-run
[12:57] <LinuxJones> faxons, that's probably what happened. Sometimes if it bombs out you just try again. try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:57] <root_> Does anyone know why volume is so low in my ibook under ubuntu
[12:58] <jnkjnbjk> if u can help pls?
[12:58] <kbrooks> melazyboy2, dont feed a troll
[12:58] <randabis> we CAN'T help you, find somewhere else for help.
[12:58] <zazeem> anyone know why when i start up a game my ubuntu restarts to thee nvidia logo then to login screen???
[12:58] <faxons> LinuxJones: apt-get update shows no packages to be updated
[12:58] <kbrooks> zazeem, depends.
[12:59] <faxons> LinuxJones: same with dist-upgrade
[12:59] <zazeem> on what
[12:59] <LinuxJones> faxons, you did apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:59] <kbrooks> it might be your hardware.....
[12:59] <zazeem> kbrooks, how do i fix?
[12:59] <kbrooks> etc etc
[12:59] <faxons> LinuxJones: yea
[12:59] <kbrooks> zazeem, hello?
[12:59] <zazeem> no i had it working yesterday
[12:59] <LinuxJones> faxons, well you can try xorgconfig
[12:59] <zazeem> but reinstalled ubuntu
[12:59] <kbrooks> that may be why.
[12:59] <zazeem> and forgot to write down
[01:00] <zazeem> there was a faq thing on a yellow webpage that had video setup it worked perfectly but now i cant find tyhat page
[01:00] <randabis> documentation is very important, you've learned a valuable lesson
[01:00] <dud> zazeem, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDrivers
[01:00] <randabis> your answer is probably in the ubuntu wiki
[01:00] <faxons> LinuxJones: k, I'll give it a shot
[01:03] <zazeem> kbrooks, how do i change my resolution in login?
[01:04] <faxons> LinuxJones: is there a way to re-run the base install
[01:04] <zazeem> how do i change my resolution in login?
[01:04] <faxons> LinuxJones: something like dpkg-reconfigrue base-config
[01:05] <LinuxJones> faxons, I dunno if that will work, one way to find out :D
[01:05] <faxons> LinuxJones: is base-config the right option?
[01:05] <zazeem> linuxjones,how do i change my resolution in login?
[01:05] <LinuxJones> zazeem, did you edit your xf86config file by hand ?
[01:05] <troll_god> faxons dpkg -l | grep base-config
[01:05] <zazeem> how
[01:05] <zazeem> jones*
[01:06] <randabis> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or xserver-xorg depending on version of X
[01:06] <troll_god> faxons: so yes.
[01:06] <LinuxJones> zazeem, dpkg-reconefiure xserver-xfree86
[01:06] <zazeem> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ dpkg-reconefiure xserver-xfree86
[01:06] <zazeem> bash: dpkg-reconefiure: command not found
[01:06] <brc_> woohoo! new powerbooks =) http://www.apple.com/powerbook/
[01:07] <root_> G5 is just round the corner
[01:07] <FAST> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[01:07] <LinuxJones> zazeem, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[01:07] <randabis> zazeem you need to type it correctly...
[01:07] <LinuxJones> zazeem, sorry my typing skills are weak
[01:08] <zazeem> lol
[01:08] <LinuxJones> :)
[01:09] <FAST> does X support 1152x864 resolutions?  i tried putting it in the XF86Config-4 file, but nothin showed up in Computer->System Configuration->Screen Resolution;  is that the wrong way to do it?
[01:10] <smo> FAST: That's the res I'm using.  Have you restarted X since the change?
[01:11] <FAST> smo: yep, restarted the computer; no luck :\
[01:12] <troll_god> FAST: you put it under modeline or under your device driver?
[01:12] <FAST> troll_god: what's modeline?
[01:13] <troll_god> the other place where you might see resolutions in your config
[01:13] <troll_god> FAST: you can always reconfigure xserver as they suggested to zazeem
[01:13] <FAST> under the screen section, i inserted "1152x864" in the 24 bit depth mode section
[01:13] <rempresent> i am thinking about changing my kernel to better suit my hardware, can anyone help me with this?
[01:13] <FAST> troll_god: i tried that too, but it wasn't listed ever
[01:13] <rempresent> i have a AMD XP 3000+
[01:14] <zazeem> hmm
[01:14] <troll_god> rempresent: you just apt get the AMD kernel
[01:14] <AndyRR> use synaptic if you are unsure
[01:14] <troll_god> rempresent: if you want to build your own apt-get kernel-package, or the sources
[01:14] <rempresent> where can i find a listing that suits me
[01:14] <rempresent> like of different packages..
[01:14] <rempresent> i want to remedy the memory issue
[01:14] <zazeem> linuxjones, that still didnt let me edit the cfg for resolutions in login and nvidia logo, yesterday the cmd i used i deleted the high ones and it worked
[01:15] <rempresent> where it thinks i only have so much ram...
[01:15] <AndyRR> rempresent, use synaptic as it also sorts grub out for you
[01:15] <rempresent> grub?
[01:15] <AndyRR> may also need to append grub.lst
[01:16] <troll_god> rempresent: You can find a list of the different packages by going 'apt-get update && apt-cache search . | less'
[01:16] <AndyRR> reformed, grub is bootloader
[01:16] <troll_god> troll_god: by opening synaptic
[01:16] <troll_god> trakal: or by using aptitude
[01:16] <zazeem> that still didnt let me edit the cfg for resolutions in login and nvidia logo, yesterday the cmd i used i deleted the high ones and it worked anyone know how to edit this???????
[01:16] <rempresent> ok, great.... how can i check to see how much ram i am utilizing
[01:17] <shock> er
[01:17] <shock> top
[01:17] <shock> in console
[01:17] <shock> or run the gnome-system-monitor
[01:17] <troll_god> rempresent: cat /proc/meminfo
[01:17] <jdub> rempresent: type 'free'
[01:17] <rempresent> Mem:        516608     509336       7272          0      15108     243836
[01:17] <rempresent> is that ok
[01:18] <jdub> rempresent: but keep in mind that it's the second number under 'free' that matters
[01:18] <jdub> no
[01:18] <rempresent> no what
[01:18] <jdub> the line that has -/+ buffers/cache is important
[01:18] <rempresent> second number
[01:18] <rempresent> -/+ buffers/cache:     250392     266216
[01:18] <rempresent> there... what do you think
[01:18] <jdub> so the first line says you have 7MB memory free, which is not the entire truth
[01:18] <troll_god> rempresent: If you really want to build a safe, and secure system with all of the advantages linux has to offer do, 'apt-get --force-yes install *'
[01:19] <jdub> the second line indicates that a good 250MB or so is being used for in-memory file caching
[01:19] <rempresent> troll:  i know all that, but i am considering changing the kernel
[01:19] <rempresent> hat decent...
[01:19] <jdub> linux efficiently uses your RAM to speed up disk access
[01:19] <rempresent> that decent
[01:19] <jdub> but gives it back if programs want it
[01:19] <rempresent> so, i am fine, no need to update the kernel
[01:20] <jdub> the kernel wouldn't help
[01:20] <rempresent> ok, that is what i wanted to check
[01:20] <jdub> even if you were using a lot of real memory
[01:20] <zazeem> how do i save logs from console after it crashes and relogs in???
[01:21] <rempresent> is this decent news, or should i think about changing the kernel...
[01:21] <jdub> rempresent: changing the kernel would not help whether it was good or bad news
[01:22] <rempresent> ok
[01:22] <rempresent> that is pretty much all i wanted to check
[01:22] <troll_god> rempresent: but changing the kernel can yeild hours of fun
[01:23] <FAST> we're from the moon
[01:23] <spudse> im searching for a light program to view powerpoint files (ppt)
[01:23] <troll_god> rempresent: try it, you will throughly enjoy your linux experience, use the image on kernel.org for added pleasure
[01:23] <balc> im having problems getting safepeer to run without error in azureus
[01:23] <balc> ubuntu seems to give it trouble
[01:25] <Stuttergart> Anyone know what group a user needs to be in to access a scanner with xsane in Hoary?
[01:25] <zazeem> any one alive?
[01:25] <zazeem> :(
[01:26] <troll_god> Stuttergart: im guessing the group root will suffice
[01:26] <Stuttergart> heh
[01:26] <troll_god> Stuttergart: =D
[01:26] <Stuttergart> how about Administrator?
[01:26] <rempresent> i like the dashboard featured in the new OSX tiger, is there a chance of seeing one of these for linux
[01:26] <Stuttergart> I don't have a 'root' group. Just 'SYSTEM' and 'Domain Administrators'
[01:27] <rempresent> or is there something out there for it already
[01:27] <troll_god> Stuttergart: your on windosws?
[01:27] <Stuttergart> I think so.
[01:27] <zazeem> anyone here
[01:27] <zazeem> that can help
[01:27] <troll_god> zazeem: god wtf is the problem
[01:28] <troll_god> zazeem: you have gone and spammed your own question out of view, v. nicley done mate!
[01:28] <zazeem> how do i get ubuntu to save an error log .a into home directory so i can see why enemy territory is crashing my system and rebooting to login
[01:28] <zazeem> spammed?
[01:28] <troll_god> zazeem: You can't
[01:28] <Agrajag> troll_god: you can't?
[01:28] <zazeem> i did yesterday a guy showed me how
[01:29] <Agrajag> doesn't ET output to the console?
[01:29] <zazeem> but i reinstalled
[01:29] <zazeem> ?
[01:29] <Agrajag> just redirect stdout/stderr to a file
[01:29] <Br34ch> at start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem?
[01:29] <shock> zazeem - i guess its just crashing X ?
[01:29] <shock> not the system
[01:29] <Agrajag> wolfet > stdout 2> stderr
[01:29] <troll_god> zazeem: computers can't prodict the future, if your whole computer is 'crashing' its a kernel level crash, it could be a bad func call, point being if there isn't a warning you won't know what happened until it has already happened
[01:29] <zazeem> i guess but yesterday we got it working
[01:29] <zazeem> not whole comp
[01:29] <Agrajag> then read the stdout and stderr files
[01:30] <zazeem> only when i start et it resets resolutuion then switches to login again
[01:30] <Agrajag> if that gives you anything useful, check that. Otherwise read your X logs
[01:30] <troll_god> zazeem: You can redirect error output to a file 'file_to_be_run 2> errorlog'
[01:30] <zazeem> how
[01:30] <zazeem> ?
[01:31] <Agrajag> uh, he just told you how
[01:31] <zazeem> put that in csole?
[01:31] <bisclaveret> heh. me again :p
[01:31] <Agrajag> zazeem: the > operator redirects the output of a program to a file
[01:31] <Br34ch> at start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem? <
[01:31] <troll_god> i just told you, open up a console, find the file you need to run, type the name ./file_to_be_run, and append '2> error.log' to it, then when it  crashes open up error.log and it will send out what is has captured
[01:31] <Agrajag> 2> reidrects stderr to a file
[01:31] <zazeem> what the hell lol
[01:32] <Agrajag> wolfet > stdout 2> stderr
[01:32] <Agrajag> wolfet > stdout 2> stderr
[01:32] <zazeem> file_to_be_run 2> errorlog in csole?
[01:32] <zazeem> k
[01:32] <pvh> Hi -- I've had a few hard-lock crashes lately, and right now Nautilus is uninterruptably hung.
[01:32] <bisclaveret> i'm trying to install the nvidia drivers for linux but A. it can't find any precompiled kernel interface, it says. and B. it can't find my kernel source files..
[01:32] <pvh> What the heck is happening to me?
[01:32] <Agrajag> I told you that like 3 minutes ago
[01:32] <zazeem> o
[01:32] <zazeem> where does it save to?
[01:32] <Agrajag> WVefvclmn
[01:32] <bisclaveret> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[01:32] <bisclaveret>        Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your
[01:32] <bisclaveret>        kernel
[01:32] <Agrajag> I'm about to give up here guys
[01:32] <Gunlance> Hello All (it's Gunblade from yesterday)
[01:32] <Agrajag> zazeem: that will save to two files
[01:32] <troll_god> lol
[01:32] <Agrajag> stdout, and stderr
[01:33] <zazeem> ya but where at
[01:33] <zazeem> o i c
[01:33] <zazeem> brb
[01:33] <pvh> Hey! I can crash my process by trying to get a directory listing... What the heck?
[01:33] <Agrajag> in the current working directory.
[01:33] <bisclaveret> does anyone know where these are?
[01:33] <troll_god> zazeem: or you could redirect both to the same file for added complexity!!!! 'file > output.log 2>&1'
[01:34] <Xenguy> pvh: are you running hoary?  else, what changes have you made most recently? ;-)
[01:34] <Gunlance> I just have a quick question, how do I install Ubuntu off of the cd..cause it is running off of the CD
[01:34] <pvh> Xenguy: Yes, I'm running Hoary.
[01:34] <Agrajag> Gunlance: you need the installer disc
[01:34] <Agrajag> not the livecd
[01:34] <Gunlance> Damn <_<
[01:34] <Br34ch> at start-up, it does say "no soundcard found," . . . I'm on a laptop, where can I at least begin to attempt resolving this problem? <<
[01:34] <Gunlance> Thats the 4.10 one off the website right?
[01:35] <Br34ch> :'x
[01:35] <pvh> Xenguy: I can't kill the nautilus process that's trying to read the directory.
[01:35] <pvh> Xenguy: It won't respond to kill -9 on its PID.
[01:35] <zazeem> that didnt save a log anywhere
[01:35] <no0tic> Ignigot was flooding me with pings...
[01:35] <Xenguy> pvh: I hate to ask this question, but, have you tried rebooting your box to regain some sanity?
[01:35] <Agrajag> zazeem: do you have files named stdout and stderr?
[01:36] <pvh> Xenguy: What is this, Windows?
[01:36] <Xenguy> pvh: (this is of course something that should *not* be necessary for a linux box, but ...)
[01:36] <zazeem> stder yea dont see the other
[01:36] <Gunlance> Thats the 4.10 one off the website right?
[01:36] <zazeem> zazeem/.etwolf/etmain/servercache.dat'
[01:36] <zazeem> Reason: There is no plugin to handle this movie..
[01:36] <zazeem> totem-video-thumbnailer couln't open file 'file:///usr/local/games/enemy-territory/etmain/hunkusage.dat'
[01:36] <zazeem> Reason: There is no plugin to handle this movie..
[01:36] <Agrajag> then read stderr
[01:36] <t> i need help?
[01:36] <pvh> Xenguy: It shouldn't even be possible to create unkillable jobs.
[01:37] <Xenguy> pvh: yes :p
[01:37] <troll_god> you probably typed the wrong pid
[01:37] <t> i need help pls?
[01:37] <troll_god> try 'killall -s 9 nautilus'
[01:37] <Agrajag> pvh: can't kill a zombie
[01:37] <Xenguy> t: just ask
[01:37] <pvh> Agrajag: braaaaaains
[01:37] <troll_god> Agrajag: if nautilus was a zombie it would be a flaw in X -- there aren't any of those =/
[01:37] <snoopdogg> http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/onimusha_3_a.txt
[01:37] <pvh> Agrajag: It shows as uninterruptable in the sysmon. It still has a parent.
[01:37] <zazeem> agrajag, this is the stder bash: wolfet: command not found
[01:37] <Agrajag> oh
[01:37] <zazeem> there isnt another
[01:38] <Agrajag> ok
[01:38] <Agamotto> Damn.... Local guy serving in Iraq has been killed.  He was due to come home in three days
[01:38] <pvh> troll_god: That was the first thing I tried.
[01:38] <Agrajag> zazeem: I probably just forgot the name of the et executable
[01:38] <bisclaveret> has anyone installed the nvidia drivers succesfully on thier computer?
[01:38] <Agrajag> zazeem: what do you run to play et?
[01:38] <zazeem> its et
[01:38] <pvh> Agamotto: I'm sorry to hear that.
[01:38] <Agrajag> just et?
[01:38] <zazeem> ya
[01:38] <Agrajag> then use that
[01:38] <snoopdogg> pls senud it 2 me if u can hepl me pls?
[01:38] <Xenguy> Agamotto: blame Bush
[01:38] <Agamotto> I got the nvidia drivers running under Ubuntu
[01:38] <zazeem> ?
[01:38] <zazeem> what do i type
[01:38] <Agrajag> do I have to hold your fscking hand?
[01:38] <zazeem> ?
[01:38] <pvh> Xenguy: Dude...
[01:38] <Gunlance> The 4.10 off teh ubuntu website is the install version right not live?
[01:38] <Agamotto> Nah, I prefer to blame the person that pulled the trigger on him
[01:38] <Agrajag> et > stdout 2> stderr
[01:39] <Agrajag> the same goddamn thing
[01:39] <Agrajag> just replace wolfet, with et
[01:39] <zazeem> o
[01:39] <snoopdogg> send
[01:39] <Agamotto> Yes, must be the install disc to go on a hd, live won't install
[01:39] <snoopdogg> help
[01:39] <bisclaveret> Agamotto, care to tell me how?
[01:39] <Br34ch> !ping
[01:40] <troll_god> Agrajag: hahahahaha i like your style! so gracefull
[01:40] <Gunlance> K thx
[01:40] <pvh> troll_god: So I have a process that won't accept a KILL signal. Now what do I do?
[01:40] <Agrajag> troll_god: I'm sorry, I just can't deal with people that are that dense
[01:40] <zazeem> k got error
[01:40] <Agrajag> zazeem: how did it go?
[01:40] <zazeem> good
[01:41] <zazeem> can i pm u error?
[01:41] <Agrajag> yes
[01:41] <kbrooks> how the hell do i get opengl
[01:41] <bisclaveret> Agamotto, it tells me first there's no precompiled kernel interfaces when it searches the nvidia ftp site, then it tells me
[01:41] <troll_god> pvh: reinstall a new kernel? i honestly don't know and find it hard to swallow, i haven't seen that in a v. long time
[01:41] <bisclaveret> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        'kernel-source' rpm installed.  If you know the correct kernel source
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the
[01:41] <bisclaveret>        '--kernel-source-path' commandline option.
[01:41] <kbrooks> pvh, send it TERM and then KILL
[01:41] <bisclaveret> where are these?
[01:42] <pvh> kbrooks: Ah, I haven't heard of that before. I'll try.
[01:42] <troll_god> pvh: You might just simply have a corrupt PID table however i know nothing about that except what can bork it, forkbombs of sort and zombie bombs etc
[01:42] <kbrooks> pvh: kill pid, then kill -9 pid, then kill -15 pid
[01:42] <Agamotto> Go to the following: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:42] <troll_god> pvh: make sure your running as root too when you issue killall -s 9
[01:42] <pvh> kbrooks: No dice.
[01:42] <pvh> troll_god: Good thinking.
[01:43] <pvh> troll_god: Ah, that did it.
[01:43] <pvh> kbrooks: Signal 15 coming from root.
[01:44] <bisclaveret> hrm. do i then have to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?
[01:45] <aToaster> I'm thinking about upgrading to Hoary to use the new ATI drivers, is there anything I should know about Hoary?
[01:45] <pvh> Well, now I just have a totally borked home directory.
[01:45] <pvh> Better go find out why. Thanks for your help with my undead process.
[01:46] <snoopdogg> pls send 2 help me pls?
[01:46] <troll_god> aToaster: the new ATI are for XFree86 too
[01:46] <tux> aToaster, no probs for me
[01:46] <tux> xorg going as well
[01:46] <troll_god> aToaster: And i upgraded to hoary, and recompiled my own kernel, and i haven't had ATI drivers for 2weeks because of it.
[01:46] <Stuttergart> I have a device string for the package maintainer of libsane to add to the stuff for hotplug. Who do I contact? The Debian maintainer or someone @ Ubuntu?
[01:47] <daniels> debian, preferably
[01:47] <troll_god> aToaster: i regret it, my advice is if ati drivers work don't touch system, while a simple apt might no break it i have been disapointed with the fglrx package, it fails silently -- that always pisses me off
[01:47] <Stuttergart> daniels: does that mean that it won't be added to Ubuntu until the next release?
[01:47] <aToaster> troll_god: I can't seem to get 3d accelartion working and I hear hoary has the drivers in the repository, thought it might install better that way
[01:48] <lflack> anyone know of a decent external USB CR-RW drive that will work on a laptop running Ubuntu?
[01:48] <troll_god> aToaster: I can't speak for those who don't compile their own kernel, how ever next time i can get a custom kernel to compile and the ATI drivers to run i won't ever upgrade system again
[01:48] <LinuxJones> The NVidia Binary Drivers seem to be whining about some Failure Reading EDID Parameters and will not load. I just installed Hoary has anybody seen this ?
[01:48] <tux> lflack, check the hardware compatibility list on the wiki
[01:48] <troll_god> aToaster: Im using 2.6.11rc2-mm2, and there IS NO WAY to get ATI drivers to run
[01:49] <lflack> tux, I poked around there and found compatible systems, and other components, but couldn't find a section on drives.
[01:49] <troll_god> aToaster: I have already filed a bug report about it on the ATI monitered rage3d.com boards
[01:50] <aToaster> troll_god: lol, ok, dang, man thats the only thing thats keeping me from switching over to linux completely, (err that and my need for macromedia flash)
[01:50] <troll_god> aToaster: In addition I will add that i was unable to get ATI drivers to work with 2.6.10 as well, but there is now a patch for 2.6.10 and ATI if you want to use the 2.6.10 kernel (it has broken AGPGART keep in mind)
[01:50] <aToaster> troll_god: what problems are you having with it?
[01:50] <bisclaveret> heh. all i want the nvidia drivers for is so i don't have to constantly switch in/out my vidcard and reenable onboard every time i want to use linux and or windows :p
[01:51] <daniels> Stuttergart: probably, yes
[01:51] <daniels> LinuxJones: sounds like a bug in the nvidia drivers -- try #nvidia
[01:51] <troll_god> aToaster: The problem originated with 2.6.8 on hoary. When xorg first was dropped into hoary it took an additional 2months(?) for drivers to be released from ATI
[01:51] <LinuxJones> daniels, ok thanks
[01:51] <bisclaveret> oh dear god at the downloading i'l have to do after enabling all those repositories
[01:51] <LinuxJones> join #nvidia
[01:52] <LinuxJones> blah
[01:52] <daniels> troll_god: why are you trying to compile your own kernel?
[01:52] <troll_god> aToaster: When the were released iw as running 2.6.10 custom, wo/ ATI Patch, because while ATI released them for 2.6.10 they never tested them and it didn't work, now the patch is available on rage3d, then i patched them and i found out 2.6.10 had bad AGPGART support, see 2.6.11rc2 buildnotes, so i decided to upgrade thinking it would be easier, 2.6.11rc2mm2 currently does not have the patch though for ati
[01:53] <troll_god> daniels: I was doing work with ALSA and mplayer =/, plus i have the .config and when i get things working ill use random kernel hacks i find for fun
[01:53] <daniels> alsa and mplayer do not require 2.6.11rc2mm1
[01:53] <troll_god> daniels: the point isn't why im running a custom kernel, i am, the point is it doesn't work with mine.
[01:54] <aToaster> troll_god: what is AGPGART anyways? I tried the whole Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" thing to try to get it to work (unfortunatly fglrxinfo still says I'm using mesa)
[01:54] <troll_god> daniels: no but mplayer requires OSS support, either through ALSA or the depreciated sound system, and i wanted to play around with that
[01:54] <daniels> right, but running a custom kernel and getting surprised when stuff breaks (because of kernel changes) isseems a little odd to me
[01:54] <daniels> troll_god: btw, mplayer doesn't require oss -- i use it without oss support
[01:55] <troll_god> daniels: take out oss from ALSA, and disable it in the kernel, it will error out with fail to open sound device, the bug report has been filed and its already in CVS as being fixed
[01:55] <troll_god> pre5 (current version) does not have the fix though.
[01:55] <gobeavs> is there any reason to upgrade to the hoary right now?
[01:55] <gobeavs> *upgrade to hoary
[01:56] <troll_god> aToaster: If your getting that error, and you have 'fglrx' as your drive in XF86Config-4, then the module is failing to load, check your XFree86.0.log, in /etc/var, or dmesg | grep fglrx
[01:56] <mjg59> gobeavs: Unless you're keen on testing things, no
[01:56] <daniels> troll_god: try '-ao alsa' or '-ao alsa9'
[01:56] <troll_god> daniels: it still won't work, it will just use oss support through alsa
[01:58] <troll_god> daniels: see linuxquestions.org/questions/history/271161 for an error simular to what i got
[01:59] <aToaster> [fglrx]  Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 929 MBytes.
[01:59] <aToaster> [fglrx]  module loaded - fglrx 3.12.0 [Jul 16 2004]  on minor 0
[01:59] <aToaster> [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4126 using kernel context 0
[01:59] <aToaster> troll_god: is the error message I get from dmeseg
[02:00] <daniels> troll_god: that report says that everything still works
[02:01] <troll_god> daniels: It didn't for me. stderr shot out messages like that, mplayer failed on audio output silently, gmplayer, failed by outputting a dialog box 1000thousand times a second with a message like failed to open device, also without audio
[02:01] <mjg59> aToaster: That's not strictly an error
[02:01] <mjg59> (Well, it's an error, but it's not one that should matter too much)
[02:01] <troll_god> daniels: Anyway supposed to be fixed, in CVS i talked to Mplayer devs about it, i just didn't care to upgrade it and try it, gxine and VLC work fine
[02:02] <troll_god> aToaster: I believe the DMA error is the AGPGART, are you using 2.6.10?
[02:02] <aToaster> mjg59: troll_god: odd then, because everything seems to be in order, but fglrx still says I'm using mesa
[02:02] <aToaster> troll_god: I believe so, how do I check?
[02:02] <tux> whats the diff. between totem and totem-gstreamer ?
[02:02] <troll_god> aToaster: uname -v
[02:02] <troll_god> totem-gstreamer is a meta package that uses gstreamer plugin for sound
[02:02] <troll_god> afaik
[02:02] <aToaster> troll_god: uname -a you mean? I'm using <IP_ADDRESS>-4-686
[02:03] <mjg59> troll_god: Uses gstreamer for everything
[02:03] <tux> ah ok thx
[02:03] <mjg59> totem-gstreamer is totem built against gstreamer as the media backend
[02:04] <tux> im having problems viewing an .avi file
[02:04] <troll_god> aToaster: uanem -r works too =D, im not sure what your problem is -- there are an infinate ammount of ways fglrx can fail, if you can't modprobe them, and all of your stuff is compiled by the ubuntu team, then they should be able to assist you
[02:04] <tux> should i revert back to totem as opposed to totem-gstreamer ?
[02:04] <mjg59> tux: With warty, totem-xine is likely to work better than totem-gstreamer
[02:04] <tux> im using hoary
[02:05] <troll_god> aToaster: you can always play around with fglrxconfig, and glxinfo, too, rage3d has most dedicated support group for ATI products from what i can get at, might want to ask one of those guys =/
[02:06] <Twiggy> Hey ~ I'm trying to upgrade to hoary, but I keep getting an error unpacking libgtksourceview-common
[02:06] <Twiggy> Anybody know if there's a fixed package somewhere?
[02:06] <bisclaveret> damn. after doing what was in the add extra repositories thing in the guide.... thats just way too much to update :p
[02:07] <aToaster> troll_god: fglrxconfig doesn't list my video card (x800) and I'm not too sure what to pick, anyways, what w ould I do with modprobe?
[02:07] <troll_god> aToaster: modprobe fglrx
[02:08] <troll_god> aToaster: your video card might not be supported by fglrx then, you might have DRI support if its old enough pre9250
[02:08] <aToaster> troll_god: modprobe fglrx doesn't return anything
[02:09] <jeavis> hi somebony can help me
[02:09] <troll_god> aToaster: do lsmod | grep fglrx
[02:09] <jeavis> trey3: Hi trey3
[02:09] <aToaster> troll_god: fglrx                 214820  0
[02:09] <aToaster>  look normal?
[02:10] <troll_god> aToaster: yes
[02:10] <aToaster> Are there any linux firefox plugins that support .mov or .wmv?
[02:10] <troll_god> aToaster: So you have the first half of the problem done, you have fglrx working just get x to use it now, the other half of the problem
[02:11] <jeavis> hi
[02:11] <troll_god> aToaster: vlc, or xine will support .wmv wo/ wmv9 audio, nothing supports .mov to my knowledge yet =/
[02:11] <jeavis> I need help
[02:11] <jeavis> I cant open this page
[02:11] <jeavis> http://cursos.itesm.mx
[02:11] <jeavis> someboy can say me why
[02:12] <troll_god> aToaster: by that i mean you can watch .wmv9 video as long as they have mpeg audio or something on those lines windows media audio codec is still worthless =/
[02:12] <LinuxJones> jeavis, it opens fine for me
[02:12] <Yannick_> troll_god, just install w32codec
[02:12] <jeavis> LinuxJones: The page display username and password
[02:12] <troll_god> Yannick_: i have w32codec, it doesn't support all forms of audio =/ check the learner.org language videos for examples of files that i have since not been able to get playback for in linux
[02:13] <Twiggy> Has anybody upgraded to hoary lately that knows about a problem with unpacking libgtksourceview-common?
[02:13] <Yannick_> oups, sorry
[02:13] <Yannick_> I though It was doing it
[02:13] <Amaranth> troll_god: they might be wmv3
[02:13] <LinuxJones> jeavis, yeah on the right hand side
[02:13] <troll_god> Amaranth: I think thats what im going for =/ yar get video not audio
[02:13] <aToaster> troll_god: there a log for x so I check if it tries to load the drivers?
[02:13] <Amaranth> oh, if you get video it isn't wmv3
[02:14] <chutwig> if i move grub's root partition by modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst, do i need to re-run it?
[02:14] <troll_god> Amaranth: I only get video using vlc
[02:14] <Amaranth> i don't know why someone would use wmv3 over avc
[02:14] <aToaster> troll_god: ah nm, found it
[02:15] <jeavis> LinuxJones: I use Morilla Firefox 0.93 what web browser do you use?
[02:15] <troll_god> aToaster: yes, 'grep fglrx /var/log/X*'
[02:15] <LinuxJones> mozilla 1.0
[02:15] <aToaster> troll_god: (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[02:15] <aToaster> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[02:15] <aToaster> troll_god: guess that answer my question, well, thanks for all your help
[02:16] <jeavis> LinuxJones: I tray to with mozilla 1.0 and dint display me the page
[02:16] <jeavis> LinusJones: What do you think thats is the problem
[02:16] <aToaster> troll_god: Ah but, looking at it again, it seems to be loading the old module... (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Version Information:
[02:16] <aToaster> (II) fglrx(0):     Name: fglrx
[02:16] <aToaster> (II) fglrx(0):     Version: 3.12.0
[02:16] <aToaster> (II) fglrx(0):     Date: Jul 16 2004
[02:16] <troll_god> aToaster: dice, now send that in a bug report to the ubuntu devs, tell them you got all of your stuff with apt, and it failed to load, and your using warty, xfree86, kernel version ____ and drivers, include package numbers if you can
[02:18] <LinuxJones> jeavis, i have no idea :(
[02:18] <aToaster> troll_god: yea I think, for some reason it's loading the old driver
[02:18] <troll_god> aToaster: auctually you can just 'dpkg -l > sendme && uname -a >> sendme' and then upload sendme to bugzilla or a newsgroup =/
[02:18] <daniels> ehm
[02:18] <jeavis> LinuxJones: psssssssssssssss :(
[02:18] <daniels> are you attempting to install the new ati drivers on warty yourself?
[02:18] <daniels> if so, that's unsupported, for obvious reasons
[02:19] <jeavis> daniels: Do you said that for me
[02:19] <troll_god> daniels: I thought he said he got them w/ apt
[02:20] <aToaster> troll_god: daniels: ah no, I was trying to install the .rpm (which I turned into a .deb)
[02:20] <aToaster> daniels: what would the obvious reasons be?
[02:21] <aToaster> daniels: and I'm using the <IP_ADDRESS>-4-686 kernel if that counts for anything?
[02:21] <troll_god> aToaster: that the ubuntu kernel has patches on it that the ATI team didn't anticipate
[02:21] <daniels> aToaster: right.  don't do that.
[02:21] <Amaranth> does the ubuntu kernel have inotify?
[02:22] <troll_god> aToaster: i believe ubuntu uses the mm kernel patch, the ATI drivers are released for venallia
[02:22] <Amaranth> ooh, mm has inotify
[02:22] <Amaranth> daniels could tell you for sure
[02:22] <troll_god> What is inotify?
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> troll_god: kernel notifier for dbus
[02:23] <Amaranth> beagle uses it
[02:23] <daniels> aToaster: a) those packages aren't for ubuntu.  they're for red hat and suse.  hence nce the .rpm thing.  secondly, you already have a version of fglrx installed via linux-restricted-modules, and you're trying to install another one over the top o fit, and it's not working.
[02:23] <daniels> at	we only support the packages in our repositories.  that's why we package fglrx.
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> iitc
[02:24] <daniels> inotify lets you hook in to notifications of changed files/directories, basically
[02:24] <aToaster> daniels: alright, *shrugs* didn't know, thought I'd give it a try anyways
[02:25] <troll_god> aToaster: Thats a good point daniels brings up, the fglrx package should be in the restricted modules package, or just apt-get install xfree86-fglr-driver, and you should get the newest one anyway? daniels did they upload the new ATI drivers to woody or would he have to upgrade to hoary to get that?
[02:25] <Dddave> hi, can anyone help me with a printer sharing problem (linux <--> windows)
[02:26] <Dddave> i'm trying to get my ubuntu box to connect to a printer on a windows machine
[02:26] <Dddave> but it doesn't want to print
[02:26] <Dddave> i have samba set up okay (i think -> file sharing works fine)
[02:26] <troll_god> Dddave: ever use the cusps webadmin?
[02:26] <Dddave> no, what is that?
[02:27] <tux> wheres a good place for getting ubuntu themes ?
[02:28] <LinuxJones> tux, Ubuntu themes or Gnome themes ?
[02:28] <troll_god> Dddave: err your using samba, i thought this was usb
[02:28] <MightyMooquack> I just installed Ubuntu and need a bit of guidance.
[02:28] <Kokey> tux, I found some in http://gnome-look.org
[02:29] <tux> where gnome themes , based on ubuntu :P
[02:29] <steve> can anyone tell me how to access windows from within linux
[02:29] <tux> Kokey, thx
[02:29] <julio> MightMooquack.... a good place to start is www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:29] <steve> i tried mount and it wasn't happening
[02:29] <daniels> troll_god: the new ones are only in hoary; warty is frozen
[02:29] <troll_god> Dddave: try administration->printing in gnome, add printer, ive never added a samba printer wo/ GUI =[
[02:29] <julio> steve...you probably also need ntfs support. i think it can be found in synaptics/apt-get
[02:29] <Dddave> yes, trying to print from ubuntu box to a printer on a windows box
[02:29] <LinuxJones> steve see julio's link ^^
[02:29] <steve> cool
[02:30] <steve> so apt-get instll synaptics
[02:30] <Dddave> i tried adding printer thru gui
[02:30] <steve> install
[02:30] <Dddave> seems fine at first.. just doent print!
[02:30] <julio> no......go to synaptics, and search 'ntfs'
[02:30] <steve> oh
[02:30] <steve> cool
[02:31] <julio> libntfs5
[02:31] <julio> i believe that's what you need.
[02:31] <EvolutionR> Anyone here use a firestarter firewaill?
[02:31] <julio> i may be wrong.
[02:31] <troll_god> daniels: If he would have switched to hoary repos and got the fglrx-driver, would it have installed on his xfree86 with warty kernel? out of curiosity
[02:31] <EvolutionR> Anyone here use a firestarter firewall?
[02:31] <julio> I do.
[02:31] <julio> evolution.
[02:32] <MightyMooquack> If I have a wireless network card in my box, and I didn't configure it on install, how do I get Ubuntu to see it?
[02:32] <troll_god> MightyMooquack: sudo dpkg-reconfigure net-base ? maybe
[02:32] <EvolutionR> julio: everytime I reboot my linux box...an error message came out "You did not have enough privileges to start firestater" do u have this problem b4?
[02:33] <LinuxJones> MightyMooquack, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards/view?searchterm=wireless%20network
[02:33] <steve> julio, now that it is installed, what next
[02:33] <julio> steve. go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:33] <LinuxJones> night all
[02:33] <julio> it'll guide you better than i could.
[02:33] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: you need to input your password to run firestarter
[02:33] <steve> cool
[02:34] <daniels> troll_god: nope, because it's only built for 2.6.10
[02:34] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: just remove firestarter from your session
[02:34] <julio> EvolutionR...do what marcin said.
[02:34] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: I mean from gnome-session
[02:34] <snoopdogg> i need help
[02:34] <julio> i must be off.
[02:34] <EvolutionR> marcin_ant just remove the firestarter command in session?
[02:34] <K-Rich> don't we all :P
[02:34] <julio> adios my peoples.
[02:34] <MightyMooquack> Hmm. That site doesn't mention the card I have. (D-Link DWL-G510)
[02:35] <EvolutionR> sudo firestarter --start-hidden
[02:35] <EvolutionR> remove that?
[02:35] <troll_god> MightyMooquack: you might need ndiswrapper
[02:35] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: Desktop -> preferences -> sessions
[02:35] <raydogg``> has anyone went fullscreen with vmware and an ATI video card in ubuntu ?
[02:36] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: remove firestarter from current session
[02:36] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: or startup list
[02:36] <EvolutionR> okie I've input the sudo firestarter --start-hidden  in the startup gnome session preferences...okie I will remove it. Will it load the firestarter everytime I boot on my linux box?
[02:36] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: firestater is always up - it works as service
[02:37] <EvolutionR> okie
[02:37] <EvolutionR> thanks
[02:37] <EvolutionR> remove done!
[02:37] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: /etc/init.d/firestarter status
[02:37] <keknehv> Is there any way to obtain a hoary network install disk?
[02:38] <christopher_> HI
[02:38] <christopher_> I am new to linux
[02:38] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: you need to run frontent only when you need to do some administrative tasks
[02:38] <christopher_> and Ubuntu
[02:38] <EvolutionR> okie!
[02:38] <geppy> Why is aumix not in Hoary?
[02:38] <christopher_> can you please instruct me on how to get to the list of downloadable programs
[02:39] <christopher_> Think of me as computer illiterite
[02:39] <christopher_> please
[02:39] <geppy> christopher:  sudo apt-cache search program_you_want
[02:39] <christopher_> uh no
[02:39] <christopher_> UM
[02:39] <christopher_> The list of programs that I can download online
[02:39] <christopher_> I forget what it is called
[02:39] <geppy> christopher:  sudo aptitude ?
[02:40] <christopher_> synoptics package manager
[02:40] <christopher_> thats it
[02:40] <Linksman> synaptic
[02:40] <christopher_> how do i get to it
[02:40] <christopher_> sure
[02:40] <christopher_> i cant spell
[02:40] <Linksman> no prosbelm :-)
[02:40] <geppy> sudo synaptic ?
[02:41] <christopher_> lets imagin I am a 14 year old kid who hates windows is use to Max OSX but has a windows computer so is being forced to use Ubuntu
[02:41] <randabis> There's also a launcher for synaptic...
[02:41] <christopher_> Anything acessab;e from the Applications menu?
[02:42] <randabis> It's in the Computer menu christopher
[02:42] <christopher_> ???
[02:42] <ironwolf> christopher_:synaptic is in the menus... not under applications though.
[02:42] <bisclaveret> even after enabling all the resources as told in the ubuntu users guide, i can't apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:42] <giard> has anyone heard of any problems setting up Ubuntu on a asus p4p800-e motherboard?
[02:42] <geppy> christopher:  Do you know if you're running Warty or Hoary?
[02:42] <christopher_> gee thanks
[02:42] <christopher_> Wart y
[02:42] <christopher_> warty
[02:42] <christopher_> at the moment
[02:43] <randabis> It's in the COMPUTER menu...
[02:43] <geppy> christopher:  "gee thanks"?
[02:43] <christopher_> uh
[02:43] <christopher_> right
[02:43] <geppy> bisclaveret:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx settings
[02:43] <randabis> You should have two...Applications, Computer
[02:43] <geppy> bisclaveret:  sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable
[02:43] <christopher_> thank you
[02:43] <christopher_> I found it
[02:43] <geppy> bisclaveret:  I missed a hyphen between glx in the first one, sorry
[02:43] <christopher_> I appreciate it
[02:43] <christopher_> See ya
[02:43] <randabis> np
[02:44] <bisclaveret> geppy: the guide says
[02:44] <bisclaveret>  $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:44] <bisclaveret> $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:44] <bisclaveret> $ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:44] <bisclaveret> $ nautilus applications:///System
[02:44] <bisclaveret> i did the first one though
[02:44] <EvolutionR> I've restarted linux box...already removed the sudo firestarter command line on the gnome sesssions startup. The error window still pops up, but no firestarter on my taskbar anymore. "Insufficient Privileges" You be root to run firestarter.
[02:44] <geppy> bisclaveret:  What did it say?
[02:44] <bisclaveret> the second gives me
[02:44] <bisclaveret> Package nvidia-settings is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:44] <bisclaveret> is only available from another source
[02:44] <bisclaveret> E: Package nvidia-settings has no installation candidate
[02:45] <geppy> bisclaveret:  That's odd,  it installs fine for me.
[02:45] <bisclaveret> it also doesn't show up in synaptic
[02:45] <geppy> bisclaveret:  Do you know how to enable multiverse/universe?
[02:45] <jba> hey guys, is there a way to get the ubuntu installer cd to boot a minimal kernel (like with the redhat "rescue" cd option) ?
[02:46] <geppy> bisclaveret:  If you do 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config', does that work?
[02:46] <bisclaveret> geppy: i replaced /etc/apt.sources.list with what was found in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:46] <bisclaveret> i couldn't apt-get upgrade yet though, as that would take too insanely long atm
[02:46] <bisclaveret> (150 megs on a dialup)
[02:47] <geppy> bisclaveret:  Have you run 'apt-get update'?
[02:47] <hybrid> is there a ubuntu ppc channel on this server?
[02:47] <EvolutionR> seems like my firestarter is not running when I've rebooted? in grc.com/shieldsup it displayed all "closed" not even stealth mode "Fail"!
[02:47] <randabis> it should be /etc/apt/sources.list not /etc/apt.sources.list
[02:48] <bisclaveret> aye i did
[02:48] <bisclaveret> and it installed those updates
[02:48] <geppy> bisclaveret:  I missed that, look at what randabis said.
[02:48] <K-Rich> randabis: what is that transparent terminal you use on your laptops root window ?
[02:48] <bisclaveret> randabis: i misspelled it in here
[02:49] <geppy> bisclaveret:  Can you try 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config'?
[02:49] <randabis> K-Rich, Terminal
[02:49] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: you need to know if firestarter daemon is running
[02:49] <K-Rich> randabis: errr.... how?
[02:49] <randabis> I've actually changed things around now though...Not running Gnome anymore
[02:49] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter status
[02:49] <randabis> K-Rich it has a very nice preferences menu that lets you change things
[02:50] <bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:~ $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config
[02:50] <bisclaveret> Reading Package Lists... Done
[02:50] <bisclaveret> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[02:50] <bisclaveret> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config
[02:50] <bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:~ $
[02:50] <randabis> that's incorrect
[02:50] <randabis> have you installed nvidia-glx?
[02:50] <randabis> if so,
[02:50] <randabis> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:50] <EvolutionR> marcin_ant: I forgot to remove the line at /etc/sudoers, username ALL= NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter  :)
[02:50] <geppy|away> bisclaveret:  Sorry, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[02:50] <bisclaveret> nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[02:50] <bisclaveret> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 106 not upgraded.
[02:50] <hybrid> does anyone know of a good bittorrent downloader for ubuntu
[02:51] <Agrajag> bittornado-gui
[02:51] <randabis> Azureus, bittorrent, bittornado
[02:51] <geppy|away> bisclaveret:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:51] <hybrid> ok thnx
[02:51] <EvolutionR> hybrid: I think the best is Azureus then bitcomet !
[02:51] <bisclaveret> okay, that did something. how do i restart x server?
[02:51] <EvolutionR> I like Azureus
[02:51] <randabis> CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[02:51] <randabis> that will restart X
[02:52] <chiuhumm> how do you share your folders?
[02:52] <M3ta> actually, that kills it, doesn't restart it. gdm restarts it.
[02:52] <hybrid> i tried azureus on mac and didnt understand it
[02:53] <randabis> M3ta generally gdm will automatically restart it though
[02:53] <K-Rich> randabis: mind sharing the command line you use?
[02:53] <EvolutionR> hybrid: what u mean dint understand it?
[02:53] <randabis> K-Rich what do you mean?
[02:53] <K-Rich> randabis: I've been trying to do it with eterm with no success
[02:53] <randabis> I don't use eterm
[02:53] <K-Rich> randabisto make it on the root window
[02:53] <K-Rich> (over the wallpaper)
[02:54] <bisclaveret> it restarted, then crapped out on me telling me it coudln't restart x cause the configuration is wrong
[02:54] <EvolutionR> Anyone knows how to edit the Grub options when booted, some of the line I want to remove, noob!
[02:54] <randabis> I told you, I just edited my options in the preferences menu
[02:54] <K-Rich> randabis: heh i know... yo said 'terminal'
[02:54] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  /boot/grub/grub.conf
[02:54] <EvolutionR> okie
[02:55] <K-Rich> randabis: you mean gnome-terminal ?
[02:55] <randabis> no
[02:55] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  Wait, no, that's wrong.
[02:55] <randabis> I mean Terminal
[02:55] <hybrid> i couldnt get it to open the torrents
[02:55] <geppy|away> randabis terminal is just a generic name
[02:55] <M3ta> randabis: i don't use gdm. believe me, ctrl alt del kills X, does not restart it :)
[02:55] <EvolutionR> there's no info on the grub.conf????????????????????????????
[02:55] <randabis> geppy there is an XFCE app called Terminal
[02:55] <K-Rich> randabis: the one from GNUStep ?
[02:55] <geppy|away> randabis: my bad
[02:56] <randabis> M3ta I know, but in general most ubuntu users use gnome/gdm
[02:56] <K-Rich> randabis: okay... that is where i got confused, there is a Terminal proggie for GNUStep as well 'apt-cache search terminal'
[02:56] <EvolutionR> geppy|away:  there's no info on the grub.conf????????????????????????????
[02:56] <M3ta> randabis: ok, with that assumption... then it "restarts" it ;)
[02:56] <chiuhumm> how do you share a folder?  Like on a network.
[02:56] <M3ta> Terminal is the one from www.os-cillation.org right? pretty nice.
[02:56] <randabis> I didn't get my program from apt K-Rich
[02:56] <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:56] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  /etc/grub/menu.lst
[02:56] <K-Rich> randabis: i c
[02:56] <EvolutionR> okie!
[02:57] <randabis> I used the Terminal installer at osillation
[02:57] <geppy|away> argh, I need to just copy and paste.
[02:57] <randabis> the site that provides the XFCE graphical installer
 EvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst
 EvolutionR:  /etc/grub/menu.lst which one is rite?
[02:57] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  not me
[02:57] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  /boot
[02:57] <hybrid> umm i am kinda embarassed to ask this but call me a n00b cuz i am how do you compile from source?
[02:57] <EvolutionR> hehehehe
[02:57] <geppy|away> hybrid:  Install a program from source?
[02:57] <hybrid> yes
[02:58] <randabis> hybrid, first you need the basic build tools, you can get them from a package called build-essential
[02:58] <geppy|away> hybrid:  It should come with an INSTALL file, but './configure' 'make' 'sudo make install' is what most require.
[02:58] <randabis> then follow geppy's advice
[02:58] <EvolutionR> wait a minute I dont see any Grub on the /etc?
[02:58] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:59] <ironwolf> haggai: awake?
[02:59] <randabis> if the compile ever fails, it is likely that you are missing dependencies required by the source
[02:59] <M3ta> EvolutionR: tip: updatedb, locate menu.lst
 EvolutionR:  look in /boot/grub/menu.lst you're rite <marcin_ant> EvolutionR: /boot/grub/menu.lst you're wrong eheheheh :P
[03:00] <EvolutionR> M3ta : okie
[03:00] <geppy|away> I just fresh-installed Hoary, and my scroll wheel wasn't detected;  how do I enable it?
[03:00] <randabis> I don't see why it wouldn't be in /boot/grub/menu.lst...that's where ubuntu puts it by default
[03:00] <bisclaveret> so after i ran that, it complains that it can't start X now :p
[03:00] <raydogg``> apt-get install linux-source doesn't work, how do you install the kernel source ( so i can compile a kernel module ? )
[03:01] <geppy|away> raydogg``:  get module-assistant
[03:01] <randabis> raydogg, it does work...it puts the source in tarball for at /usr/src
[03:01] <bisclaveret> hrm wait, trying something. brain is running reealy slow :p
[03:01] <randabis> for =form
[03:01] <raydogg``> it said it couldn't find the package for me
[03:01] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: did u try the Desktop > Preferences> Mouse ?
[03:01] <randabis> but generally to compile kernel modules you don't need the kernel source...you need the kernel headers for your running kernel
[03:02] <raydogg``> ok, how do i install the kernel headers ?
[03:02] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  There's no way to enable the scroll wheel from that dialog.
[03:02] <randabis> sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[03:02] <randabis> if you aren't finding these packages, you need to edit your sources.list
[03:02] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: ok I cant help u....try ubuntu guide?
[03:02] <randabis> you probably don't have "restricted" enabled
[03:03] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  I'll try it, thanks.
[03:03] <Croccifixio> hello, anybody around?
[03:03] <mike> yea
[03:03] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: ur welcome!
[03:03] <geppy|away> =)
[03:03] <Croccifixio> i got a lil trouble installing ubuntu
[03:03] <raydogg``> it found the linux-headers
[03:03] <raydogg``> installing now
[03:03] <M3ta> geppy|away: edit xorg.conf and add Option "AZxisMapping" "4 5" under Section "InputDevide"
[03:03] <Croccifixio> had no prob on one machine
[03:03] <raydogg``> thx rand
[03:04] <Croccifixio> but on the other one it has some,
[03:04] <M3ta> erm, not "AZ , it's "ZA
[03:04] <raydogg``> Has anyone tried to go fullscreen with an ati card in vmware on unbuntu ?
[03:04] <randabis> raydogg``, keep in mind I said "in general" :) what module are you trying to install anyway?
[03:04] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, what kind of problems are you having
[03:04] <Croccifixio> actually, nevermind, everything works fine now :P
[03:04] <Croccifixio> was a little hardware mistake i made, nothing major , fixed
[03:05] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, oh ok ;-)heh
[03:05] <EvolutionR> b4 I remove the 2 nd kernel lines from the Grub! How to uninstall/remove the 2nd kernel (old kernel) ?
[03:05] <Croccifixio> wanted to ask , i am planning on running a cs server off it, as well as and ftp one
[03:05] <raydogg``> vmware module
[03:05] <Croccifixio> nonono, not play cs
[03:05] <Croccifixio> i got a subscribtion to cedega
[03:05] <Croccifixio> for playing
[03:05] <randabis> EvolutionR, sudo apt-get --purge remove nameofkernelpackage
[03:05] <Croccifixio> but i mean run a dedicated server
[03:06] <EvolutionR> randabis: okie!
[03:06] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, I thought cs worked in regular wine..shrug
[03:06] <Croccifixio> nononno
[03:06] <Croccifixio> not play it !
[03:06] <randabis> That will automatically remove it from your menu.lst as well so you don't even have to change anything manually
[03:06] <Croccifixio> make a dedicated server
[03:06] <geppy|away> M3ta: Thanks!  Something was broken with my Hoary install, though, and the only xorg.confs that I'm 'locating' are backups, and manpage examples.
[03:06] <Croccifixio> there are plenty of dedicated linux servers around
[03:06] <Croccifixio> i wanna make one too
[03:06] <Croccifixio> server machine,
[03:06] <Croccifixio> i got my desktop and server
[03:07] <Croccifixio> wanna run a cs server off the linux server
[03:07] <Croccifixio> wanna know how :P
[03:07] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Somehow, it didn't install any X packages, so I had to apt-get 'em, and somehow it's missing an xorg.conf... I don't see how I got into X without it generating one.
[03:07] <EvolutionR> how to check the wat kernel version I have currently?
[03:07] <M3ta> geppy|away: it's the same procedure for xfree86
[03:07] <randabis> it might be still using Xfree geppy
[03:07] <Croccifixio> check in grub
[03:07] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  uname -r
[03:07] <Croccifixio> its always said there
[03:07] <Croccifixio> when you boot
[03:07] <Croccifixio> 2.6.8 probably
[03:07] <geppy|away> M3ta:  I have x.org, and there's no XF86-config
[03:07] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, you'd get better support i'm sure in #gametome ..iv'e no idea since I 've never played it or served it ...try that other channel...
[03:08] <Croccifixio> ah
[03:08] <Croccifixio> thanks!
[03:08] <neighborlee> np
[03:08] <Croccifixio> (its all linux chan right?
[03:08] <EvolutionR> ok
[03:08] <neighborlee> Croccifixio, sure is
[03:08] <Croccifixio> so i wont get windows users trying to explain me how to set it up on windows
[03:08] <Croccifixio> thanks!
[03:08] <Croccifixio> i got one more question for you guys
[03:08] <neighborlee> yw
[03:08] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: what's uname for?
[03:08] <Croccifixio> ftp server
[03:08] <M3ta> geppy|away: no xorg.conf and no XF86Config-4 anywhere?
[03:08] <randabis> it should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <Croccifixio> whats the best util to run ftp serv?
[03:09] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Right, neither of them are there.
[03:09] <M3ta> yeah, at least one of them should.. i can't figure out how you even got into X :)
[03:09] <Croccifixio> nottoo complicated
[03:09] <Croccifixio> but secure
[03:09] <Croccifixio> stable
[03:09] <geppy|away> randabis: That's what I was thinking.  =)
[03:09] <Croccifixio> etc..
[03:09] <Croccifixio> and user friendly
[03:09] <Croccifixio> i mean like
[03:09] <Croccifixio> not too complicated
[03:09] <Croccifixio> by user friendly
[03:09] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Neither can I!  =)   Shouldn't it have automatically generated one?
[03:09] <Croccifixio> so i can setup everything like i need
[03:09] <Croccifixio> without too much trouble
[03:10] <randabis> Croccifixio, you could try gFTP
[03:10] <Croccifixio> is it secure?
[03:10] <geppy|away> M3ta:  At first, I couldn't get in, because there wasn't a config, and I wasn't sure why... so I ran nvidia-glx-config enable, which made one, or so I though... at least it let me into X
[03:10] <Croccifixio> dont want some guy hijaciking my machine
[03:10] <M3ta> geppy|away: indeed it should. i'm not sure if apt-get install --reinstall or a dpkg--reconfigure will help, but i can honestly tell you it's what i would try next
[03:10] <geppy|away> M3ta:  What would you try next?
[03:10] <randabis> I don't see why it wouldn't be...security would lie more in the protocol than in the user interface
[03:10] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Oops, misread that, sory.
[03:11] <geppy|away> *sorry
[03:11] <Croccifixio> apt-get install gftp would be correct or should i look in synaptic?
[03:11] <geppy|away> M3ta:  Which packages would I reconfigure?  xserver-xorg?
[03:11] <randabis> yes sudo apt-get install gftp should do the trick
[03:11] <Croccifixio> kk , one more thing
[03:11] <M3ta> geppy|away: xorg-common, xserver-xorg
[03:11] <geppy|away> M3ta:  danke
[03:12] <Croccifixio> for bins, its ./configure <bin> or is it dpkg? been a while sorry :P
[03:12] <bisclaveret> nope. after turning off the computer, installing the vidcard, and rebooting, X refuses to restart after running that command
[03:12] <raydogg``> randabis, thanks, i got vmware installed in ubuntu now :-)
[03:12] <hou5ton> anyone know of a linux app that will print contact sheets for folders of images?
[03:12] <M3ta> geppy|away: bitte
[03:12] <randabis> Croccifixio, .bin? sh foo.bin or ./foo.bin
[03:12] <Croccifixio> o that
[03:12] <Croccifixio> right :P
[03:12] <Croccifixio> thanks'
[03:12] <M3ta> a X running without conf... damn, and i thought i saw everything
[03:12] <randabis> raydogg``, great!
[03:12] <Croccifixio> il stick around,
[03:12] <Croccifixio> using a KVM
[03:12] <Croccifixio> cant be everywhere at same time
[03:12] <Croccifixio> Be Right Back checkout the install
[03:12] <Croccifixio> still installing updates
[03:13] <bisclaveret> and now i can't get x to run with my onboard video :p
[03:13] <Croccifixio> .. sigh
[03:14] <bisclaveret> anyone have any other suggestions?
[03:15] <geppy|away> M3ta:  I'm still not getting an xorg.conf...  Should I just google for one?
[03:16] <geppy|away> M3ta:  This is decidedly the weirdest problem I've ever had, even weirder than the time that my kernel started printing "AIEEE!!!" all over the place.
[03:17] <carambol> i have install kde
[03:17] <carambol> can i remove gnome totally?
[03:17] <Riddell> carambol: awooga
[03:17] <carambol> with out problems
[03:18] <Riddell> carambol: you need to keep gnome-menus because the k-menu needs a file provided by it
[03:18] <Riddell> otherwise yes
[03:18] <carambol> whats that:ok
[03:18] <EvolutionR> how to search for the kernel versions? any command for it?
[03:18] <Riddell> unfortunatly gnome-menus has a lot of dependencies
[03:18] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  uname -r
[03:18] <carambol> but i removed evolution
[03:19] <carambol> Riddell: i romoved evolution
[03:19] <geppy|away> carambol:  Why remove GNOME?  It's not exactly filling up your hard-drive... and if you don't like GNOME, use Mepis, or Debian.
[03:19] <geppy|away> carambol:  Not using GNOME takes away most of the advantage of using Ubuntu.
[03:19] <carambol> ok
[03:20] <carambol> ok
[03:20] <Riddell> carambol: good. feel free to use ubuntu without gnome, it is allowed
[03:20] <raydogg> is there a smb4k equivalent in ubuntu/gnome ?
[03:20] <carambol> but i wont get problems?
[03:21] <geppy|away> raydogg:  Is smb4k not in universe, or multiverse, or something?
[03:21] <Croccifixio> No response in #gametone, any other similar channels?
[03:21] <raydogg> apt-get install smb4k returns nothing
[03:21] <Riddell> carambol: not at all, the k-menu dependency is the only major issue
[03:21] <carambol> ok
[03:21] <raydogg> I have not edited any verses tho
[03:21] <carambol> thanks
[03:21] <Riddell> raydogg: smb4k is in universe
[03:21] <raydogg> ah
[03:21] <raydogg> ok
[03:21] <raydogg> guides shows me how to add that ?
[03:22] <M3ta> geppy|away: you should feel honored. the "AIEEE" errors are not for everyone's "pleasure" ;)
[03:22] <EvolutionR> geppY|away: how bout list all kernels ?
[03:22] <Riddell> raydogg: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingKDE
[03:22] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  ls /boot
[03:22] <Croccifixio> No response in #gametone, any other similar channels?
[03:22] <geppy|away> M3ta:  hahahahaha =D
[03:23] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  erm... look in the grub conf?  I've never looked for a way to do it.
[03:23] <raydogg> thx riddell
[03:23] <EvolutionR> okie!
[03:25] <EvolutionR> apt-get --purge remove apt-get --purge remove kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:26] <raydogg> Riddell, it says "add universe to sections" is it replacing main restricted, or is it main restricted universe
[03:26] <EvolutionR> is like this?
[03:26] <geppy|away> M3ta: Hmm... How about I just put those options into a new text file where my xorg should be?   Done
[03:28] <EvolutionR> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[03:28] <EvolutionR> E: Couldn't find package kernel-<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:28] <M3ta> so, yeah, might be worth a shot if it's not too troublesome.
[03:30] <geppy|away> M3ta:  alright, cool.  Thanks!  =)
[03:30] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686
[03:30] <M3ta> geppy|away: sorry for not actually fixing your prob, but i told you what i would do hehe
[03:30] <MightyMooquack> This mobo has an onboard ethernet port. How do I get Ubuntu to see it?
[03:31] <MightyMooquack> (This same mobo used to be part of a FreeBSD box, which saw it just fine.)
[03:32] <geppy|away> M3ta:  hahaha... It's cool, thanks anyways.  =D
[03:33] <MightyMooquack> Nevermind.
[03:33] <MightyMooquack> I got it.
 so I just type this dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686 it will remove ? how I know is the linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686 need to remove? noob
[03:35] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  well, let's slow dow a sec then.  i assumed you knew you wanted to remove that
[03:35] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  do you have a newer kernel you use now?
[03:36] <EvolutionR> yes of course I have a 2.6.10....and used it for few weeks, satisfied, decided to remove the old version that's 2.6.8 ....
[03:36] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  okay then, cool
[03:37] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686  <-- that's safe to type then
[03:37] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: is there any debian/ubuntu guide to remove the old kernel?
[03:37] <EvolutionR> Ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[03:37] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  that will remove the kernel and all associated files from the package
[03:38] <jba> hey guys, what's the command executed that gets a root terminal on hoary ?
[03:38] <tolstoy> sudo su?
[03:38] <randabis> sudo su
[03:38] <tolstoy> or sudo -s?
[03:38] <eyequeue> jba:  probably "sudo -s"
[03:38] <jba> aaah
[03:38] <Croccifixio> sudo apt-get install gftp doesnt work , it doesnt find it
[03:38] <jba> cause su - wasn't working form me, thanks dude
[03:38] <Croccifixio> as for my server, i found some good tutorials :D
[03:39] <sladen> jba: don't use a root terminal.  Do  sudo ...   if you actually /need/ to run that comand as root or another user
[03:39] <raydogg> I have all the repositories enabled and smb4k is still not showing up in a search
[03:39] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: let's say next time I've installed few kernel versions, but how did I know which the correct param? like linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686
[03:39] <jba> sladen, yeah i know, but sometimes i need to execute alot of commands as root
[03:39] <Croccifixio> so any other good ftp server prog? (to make a serv not client)
[03:39] <jba> and sudo this and sudo that gets annoyin
[03:39] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: let's say next time I've installed few kernel versions, but how did I know which the correct param to remove? like linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686
[03:39] <borat> hey everyone, i'm looking to turn my ubnuntu machine into a streaming itunes music server... i have read this guy's article http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6067 and i got the first part down pat.  However, the second step: sudo dpkg -i mt-daapd_0.2.0_sid_i386.deb i get an error: that the file is missing.  I know there is a new version of the file .2.1.1 but i can't get it installed anyone help?
[03:39] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  one way, ls -l /usr/share/doc/linux-image-*
[03:40] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  then see which ones are listed
 okie I mark it down thanks!
[03:40] <Croccifixio> trouble getting gftp, whats another good ftp server?
[03:41] <geppy|away> Croccifixio:  gftp != ftp server
[03:41] <geppy|away> Croccifixio: pure-ftp
[03:41] <geppy|away> Croccifixio:  gftp is a _client_
[03:42] <Chiara`> Someone wish me luck with installing video drives... shudder.
[03:42] <rempresent> how do you install a .deb file?
[03:42] <geppy|away> rempresent:  dpkg -i file.deb
[03:42] <eyequeue> rempresent:  dpkg -i foo*.deb
[03:43] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 :)
[03:43] <borat> do you have to cd to where the .deb file is
[03:43] <Croccifixio> ah
[03:43] <Croccifixio> i need a server
[03:43] <geppy|away> borat:  Either that, or type in the full path
[03:43] <jba> wow this channel gets some absolutely green debian converts doesn't it?
[03:43] <Croccifixio> so whats a good server?
[03:43] <rempresent> no, i downloaded one... and i just have a .deb
[03:43] <borat> ah i see
[03:43] <geppy|away> borat:  e.g. 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file/foo*.deb'
[03:43] <EvolutionR> dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[03:43] <EvolutionR> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386:
[03:43] <EvolutionR>  linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 depends on linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386.
[03:43] <EvolutionR>  linux-image-2.6-386 depends on linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386.
[03:43] <EvolutionR> dpkg: error processing linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 (--purge):
[03:43] <EvolutionR>  dependency problems - not removing
[03:43] <geppy|away> Croccifixio:  Like I said, pure-ftp
[03:43] <EvolutionR> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:43] <sladen> jba: if you're executing alot of commands, then it's even MORE important that you use sudo
[03:43] <EvolutionR>  linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[03:43] <borat> i try that... that might help me
[03:44] <jba> sladen, that's totally a debatable matter of opinion
[03:44] <rempresent> has anyone gone here :  http://www.lynucs.org/index.php ?
[03:44] <jba> but i'll let it be. I do like the whole concept of sudoing stuff in ubuntu
[03:44] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: vsftpd is your best bet AFAICT
[03:44] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  dpkg --piirge one two three <-- list all those pacakges, where i put "one two three"
[03:44] <rempresent> some desktops that people have are totally pimp, is it hard to customize your desktop
[03:45] <eyequeue> ourge i mean
[03:45] <eyequeue> purge
[03:45] <eyequeue> lol
[03:45] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: u mean dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  <-=- this correct?
[03:46] <Croccifixio> pure vs vsftpd... what are the strong / weak points of each please?
[03:46] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  exactly :)
[03:47] <randabis> why not just use
[03:47] <randabis> apt-get --purge remove linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[03:47] <Croccifixio> pure vs vsftpd... what are the strong / weak points of each please?
[03:47] <eyequeue> randabis:  greater control :)
[03:48] <sladen> jba: okay.  Here's the reasons /I/ find useful.  (a) full audit log of what was /actually/ done.  (b) not executing incidental commands like 'ls' as root.  (c) having it in my command history so I can repeat blocks of commands at a keystroke
[03:48] <randabis> eyequeue fair enough :)
[03:48] <speel> hey i have 2 questions .. does ubuntu come with iptables installed and enabled? if so how do i shut iptables off?
[03:48] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/security/ftp-daemons
[03:48] <jba> sladen, i don't want to debate it with you dude. for the most part i agree.
[03:48] <Croccifixio> thanks
[03:48] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: judge for yourself :-)
[03:49] <sladen> jba: s/okay/okay, I'm happy to let it drop.  Btw, /    :)
[03:49] <randabis> changed my desktop...:p I think it's nifty
[03:49] <randabis> http://img168.exs.cx/img168/8843/desktop9qe.jpg
[03:50] <jba> sladen, btw what? (I read that as by the way, ...)
[03:50] <speel> any one?
[03:50] <borat> i'm trying to install mt-daap from a .deb file but i got this error cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/doc/mt-daapd/mt-daapd.conf': No such file or directory anyone know what's up with that
[03:50] <rjgrange> need a little help
[03:50] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/1043  <---error on it need help
[03:50] <rempresent> has anyone worked with flux?
[03:51] <msh_> hi
[03:51] <msh_> i just installed the pwx webcam driver as an independent moduke
[03:51] <rjgrange> can someone help with a synaptic question?
[03:51] <msh_> module*
[03:51] <geppy|away> rjgrange:  Just ask.
[03:51] <msh_> and did modprobe pwc
[03:51] <socomm> Hello. What is the port that Apache uses by default on Ubuntu.
[03:52] <geppy|away> socomm:  80?
[03:52] <msh_> i cant get my webcam to show up as a V4L device
[03:52] <socomm> I got port fowarding on my router and I can't seem to reach my machine from the outside.
[03:52] <msh_> does anyoen have this problem
[03:52] <rjgrange> attempted to install a package, but was awarded with an error message saying I had to use it logged in as root, but I can't seem to be able to do that.
[03:52] <msh_> or does anyone have a logitech quickcam webcam running?
[03:52] <socomm> geppy|away: Yeah I got port fowarding on 80, still no luck.
[03:52] <geppy|away> socomm:  Odd.
[03:52] <Chiara`> Does anyone know if the video card drivers for linux provided on NVidia's website can be installed with ubuntu?
[03:52] <msh_> rjgrange: there is no root user
[03:52] <msh_> use sudo
[03:52] <geppy|away> Chiara`:  Don't.
[03:53] <rempresent> randabis: your desktop is nice
[03:53] <geppy|away> Chiara`:  There are ubuntu packages for the nvidia driver.
[03:53] <Chiara`> geppy: bad idea, huh?
[03:53] <msh_> http://datakill.us/screen
[03:53] <geppy|away> Chiara`:  Yeah.
[03:53] <geppy|away> Is there an infobot in here?
[03:53] <Chiara`> geppy: k, I'll look for 'em.  Thanks.
[03:53] <rjgrange> ran sudo synaptic, but it would not find the package.  Also, set the root passwd, but still nothing
[03:53] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  did you list all of the dependent pacakge names in your purge?
[03:53] <randabis> rempresent, thanks :)
[03:53] <EvolutionR> I'm using Gnome....is there any burning software that I can use?
[03:53] <geppy|away> Chiara`:  try: apt-cache search nvidia
[03:54] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  Nautilus?  K3B?
[03:54] <msh_> rjgrange: there is no root user in ubuntu
[03:54] <socomm> Anyone got an idea as to what could be the culprit here?
[03:54] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: I duno know, cant u help me to list out? I'm noob
[03:54] <geppy|away> socomm:  How does <IP_ADDRESS>:80 work?
[03:54] <rempresent> that datakill one is sweet too
[03:54] <gamecat> Someone: I've got 2 CD drives, and only one of them is working for audio CD play.
[03:54] <msh_> dats mine
[03:54] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  k
[03:54] <rjgrange> yes, figured that, so how do I get synaptic to work?
[03:54] <msh_> it works fine
[03:54] <gamecat> any hints on what to change?
[03:54] <geppy|away> gamecat:  Do they both have their audio cables plugged in?
[03:54] <socomm> geppy|away: Yes.
[03:54] <msh_> you just have to enable all the repositories
[03:55] <EvolutionR> geppy|away: k3b is for Kde I'm afraid? I use gnome,  no kde here....can install k3b?
[03:55] <gamecat> I feel like they don't, but that shouldn't matter if digital playback is enabled.
[03:55] <socomm> localhost, <IP_ADDRESS> all work.
[03:55] <geppy|away> socomm: If that works, then it's the port-forwarding that's the problem.
[03:55] <gamecat> I can't even add tracks to xmms for the second one.
[03:55] <randabis> EvolutionR, Yes, k3b will generally work okay in GNOME
[03:55] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: Thanks for ur effort
[03:55] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  K3B works fine on GNOME.  It requires kde-libs, but it won't hurt you.  =)
[03:55] <EvolutionR> Okie..guys I go for k3b
[03:55] <randabis> I think Gnomebaker would be a good alternative to k3b though as well
[03:55] <msh_> does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?
[03:55] <socomm> geppy|away: That's what I figured, but I'm forwarding on the right NIC and all.
[03:55] <socomm> :^/
[03:55] <robertj> And grave digger
[03:55] <geppy|away> socomm:  =/
[03:56] <gamecat> What I need is some insight into how XMMS is reading the CD tracks from the /cdrom directory.
[03:56] <socomm> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:56] <geppy|away> socomm:  It's the port-forwarding that's broken, though, because Apache is obviously working.
[03:56] <EvolutionR> Gnomebaker???????????? which one is better k3b or gnomebaker? this is my first time using burning software on Linux...previously on windows Nero Burning Rom only!
[03:56] <Croccifixio> i think im going for vsfptd
[03:56] <gamecat> I tried creating a chain of links similar to the one that leads to /cdrom, but there's something in there I'm not comprehending.
[03:56] <geppy|away> EvolutionR:  K3B
[03:56] <socomm> geppy|away: Yeah I guess.
[03:56] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  linux-restricted-modules-2.6-386
[03:56] <EvolutionR> OKiE!
[03:56] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  i think i got them all :)
[03:57] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: I try
[03:57] <socomm> Just wondering, maybe Ubuntu used something funky.
[03:57] <socomm> Guess not.
[03:57] <msh_> does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?
[03:57] <geppy|away> socomm:  No, Apache works fine for me on Ubuntu. =)
[03:57] <socomm> geppy|away: Behind a router, by any chance?
[03:58] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-2.6-386 which isn't installed. <--- except this none exits?"All of them being remove"
[03:59] <raydogg> does anyone else see smb4k in their repos?
[03:59] <raydogg> I cannot find it, i added universe
[03:59] <liquidboy> how do i gain perminant root privelages?
[04:00] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  is it gone now? ls /boot
[04:00] <liquidboy> i read somewhere that you type something into the terminal
[04:00] <gamecat> define permanent.
[04:00] <jba> liquidboy, sladen just beat me into submission, that that was a bad thing TM to do
[04:00] <eyequeue> liquidboy:  sudo -s, but be aware of security implications
[04:00] <Xenguy> liquidboy: it's answered in a FAQ AFAIK
[04:00] <liquidboy> ok
[04:00] <liquidboy> thanks
[04:01] <rempresent> how do you get fluxbox to work
[04:01] <liquidboy> damn
[04:01] <sladen> liquidboy: sudo apt-get install   ...  etc (just type 'sudo' before anything that actually needs running as root)
[04:01] <EvolutionR> config-2.6.10-2-386  initrd.img-2.6.10-2-386  memtest86+.bin           vmlinuz-2.6.10-2-386
[04:01] <EvolutionR> grub                 lost+found               System.map-2.6.10-2-386
[04:01] <sladen> jba: :)
[04:02] <jba> hehe
[04:02] <liquidboy> ok, i installed need to transfer files fom my linux partition to a usb hd (it shows up, but i cant write to it) - im using the live cd  - cos windows xp (i instaleld it ) stuffed up grub
[04:02] <liquidboy> so i cant install anything
[04:02] <msh_> does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?
[04:02] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: is that clean? above
[04:02] <EvolutionR> I guess so
[04:02] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  very good :)
[04:02] <liquidboy> so i need to know how to make the hard drive writable
[04:02] <EvolutionR> thanks 100.000,000 tu u :P
[04:03] <Croccifixio> Xenguy you know how to setup a cs server on ubuntu? i found a tutorial on how to set it up, but how to add mods?
[04:03] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  you're learning things :)
[04:03] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: "cs server" ?
[04:04] <Croccifixio> Xenguy also, could you help me setup cs-ftpd correctly and securly?
[04:04] <Croccifixio> Xenguy counter-strike
[04:04] <liquidboy> when i typed in "sudo -s" it didnt ask me for a password...
[04:04] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: nope, and no :-)
[04:04] <gamecat> were you already sudo'd?
[04:04] <Croccifixio> liquidboy if you typed it oce before in the same window its normal
[04:04] <Croccifixio> Xenguy</3
[04:04] <gamecat> what Croc said.
[04:04] <mebaran151> hey
[04:04] <liquidboy> no, the first time i typed it, it didnt ask for one
[04:04] <eyequeue> liquidboy:  if you typed it in the past few minutes, that's normal
[04:04] <mebaran151> anybody own the DI524 wireless router
[04:04] <michael_> I have ubuntu, how do I open debian (.deb) files??
[04:05] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: for vsftpd, be aware that it does allow use of SSL for extra security if yer interested
[04:05] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: yeah...I'm learning alot of linux especially from Ubuntu "Hoary" rather than other distro.
[04:05] <gamecat> if you typed "sudo", they mean.
[04:05] <gamecat> (--> liquid)
[04:05] <LinkMasterSab> Hey, if I "make install" something, then the only way to uninstall it is manually, right?
[04:05] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: have fun
[04:05] <mebaran151> my DI524 router
[04:05] <liquidboy> gamect, i ment that the very first timei typed 'sudo' (which was the command "sudo -s") it didnt ask me for a password
[04:06] <mebaran151> doesnt seem to want to dhcp anything on my linux box
[04:06] <michael_> I have ubuntu, how do I open debian (.deb) files??
[04:06] <linux-rulz> http://www.pastebin.com/236033  Does anyone know why Kmix is doing this?
[04:06] <linux-rulz> michael_: what debs did u download?
[04:06] <gamecat> you mean you haven't done any sudo commands in that terminal in the last several minutes before sudo -s?
[04:06] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: seriously, I've never done either (not trying to be a prick or anything :-)
[04:06] <michael_> umm, apps
[04:06] <michael_> I don't know what they are
[04:06] <Croccifixio> Xenguy whatever that means, i just want to setup a secure server, no annoynous, quite secure and in no way the logged in people can get root access, thats all i need :)
[04:06] <michael_> as long as they work
[04:06] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: just now if compared them "dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386"  "dpkg --purge linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 linux-image-2.6-386  "linux-restricted-modules-2.6-386"<- except not much diffrent here
[04:06] <gamecat> it's possible, then, that your entry in the sudoers file is set to let you sudo w/out password confirmation.
[04:06] <LinkMasterSab> michael_: You want to install them?
[04:07] <gamecat> not sure how that would have been set that way tho.
[04:07] <michael_> yes
[04:07] <Croccifixio> Xenguy as well as login preferences , such as that login can dl only such can upl n dl
[04:07] <msh_> does anyone use a logitech quickcam with ubuntu?
[04:07] <mebaran151> anyboyd know much about wireless routers
[04:07] <Croccifixio> Xenguy is that possible? is it easy to setup ?
[04:07] <mebaran151> my modem always seems to fail
[04:07] <liquidboy> well, i am on the live cd...
[04:07] <LinkMasterSab> dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:07] <mebaran151> as soon as my comp tries to DHCP through the router
[04:07] <gamecat> OH.
[04:07] <mebaran151> it is most amazing
[04:07] <gamecat> OK, that does it then.
[04:07] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: like I said, I haven't done either, so you need to read, research, etc.  Could be fun :-)
[04:07] <mebaran151> I havent the slightest idea why it would work that way
[04:07] <gamecat> LiveCDs assume you're already king of the machine.
[04:07] <gamecat> Knoppix, etc, all let you go root without shaking you down first.
[04:08] <mebaran151> but the modem fails to post and resets itself when it tries to get a dhcp from the network address
[04:08] <michael_> Hello?
[04:08] <gamecat> I'd forgotten you were using the liveCD.
[04:08] <liquidboy> oh
[04:08] <mebaran151> and also whenever I try to do the configuration through <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:08] <Croccifixio> Xenguy no , it cant be fun :P i need to save time
[04:08] <LinkMasterSab> michael_: dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:08] <mebaran151> it says permssion denied
[04:08] <michael_> in terminal?
[04:08] <liquidboy> gamecat, the usb hard drive only has write permission for root, if im root, how come i dont have write permission?
[04:08] <Xenguy> Croccifixio: FTP is inherently insecure, so it is a risky service to run from the get-go (e.g. FTP passes passwords in the clear, but maybe you are already aware of these things)
[04:08] <LinkMasterSab> Yes
[04:08] <mebaran151> are there any more linux friendly routers?
[04:08] <LinkMasterSab> Might have to sudo it
[04:08] <Croccifixio> Be Right Back take shower
[04:08] <michael_> kk
[04:08] <LinkMasterSab> Probably have to, I don't remember
[04:09] <gamecat> hmm hmm hmm.
[04:09] <gamecat> I think it's a matter of semantics, liquid.
[04:09] <LinkMasterSab> So anyways, if I "make install", how would I go about removing it?
[04:09] <gamecat> maybe if you tried su -
[04:09] <borat> okay it looks like i semi installed a file from a .deb ( i got an error) so i tried to instal an older version and now it dpkg is saying that it can't stop the procsses so i'm sorta in this limbo stage what can i do?
[04:09] <gamecat> then it would consider you the "real" root
[04:09] <gamecat> instead of user that has "gone" root.
[04:10] <liquidboy> bugger, authentication failure
[04:10] <michael_> status database is locked by another process??
[04:10] <liquidboy> i need to find a way to  boot into my linux partition but windows stuffed up grub :(
[04:10] <LinkMasterSab> michael_: You have Synaptic open?
[04:10] <gamecat> yeah, yeah. Hmm.
[04:10] <liquidboy> is there any way to boot into linux using either the install cd or the live cd?
[04:10] <liquidboy> or reinstall grub from the live cd / install cd?
[04:10] <michael_> Yes
[04:11] <LinkMasterSab> That'd be it. Close it.
[04:11] <gamecat> You might consider looking at the HOWTOs on how to create a GRUB boot disk.
[04:11] <liquidboy> gamecat: looking...
[04:11] <mebaran151> how can you create a grub disk
[04:11] <mebaran151> without grub
[04:11] <mebaran151> I always wondered that
[04:11] <IceGuest_5> hi
[04:11] <mebaran151> most of these howtos tell you
[04:11] <gamecat> you should have access to grub itself on the livecd....?
[04:11] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: the remove command --purge kernel versions was so effectively, I don't even have to delete the lines <IP_ADDRESS>..it was auto deleted! Very Smart! :)
[04:11] <gamecat> I dunno, I've never done this.
[04:11] <mebaran151> to open the grub shell
[04:11] <tensor> hello, is there a target release date for hoary?
[04:11] <liquidboy> surely you can use the live cd as a bootdisk tho?
[04:11] <gamecat> oh, huh.
[04:12] <gamecat> you'd think so. *shrug.*
[04:12] <gamecat> hmm.
[04:12] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  thank the packagers of that linux-image package :)
[04:12] <gamecat> you have your normal ubuntu install's /. mounted, right?
[04:12] <gamecat> r/w priv?
[04:12] <gamecat> actually... r/w/x priv?
[04:13] <liquidboy> gamecat, no sure what you mean... i can access my linuxpartition and write to it, if thats what you mean...
[04:13] <gamecat> okay, that's cool.
[04:13] <gamecat> what I meant by r/w/x... can you run programs from it?
[04:13] <liquidboy> um, ill try then
[04:13] <Dddave> hey, i got a problem with printers: trying to access a network printer (on my windows machine) thru ubuntu, but it wont print! :(
[04:13] <gamecat> If you can, then you ought to have some hope here of getting this done tonight.
[04:14] <gamecat> take a look around for faqs about installing GRUB from scratch.
[04:14] <gamecat> they OUGHT to tell you how to, once grub is configured right (which I suspect it still is?)...
[04:14] <mebaran151> any of you guys have any ideas on my router problems
[04:14] <gamecat> ... execute some script or something that'll overwrite your master boot record and tell it to boot grub instead of winxp.
[04:15] <lmurillo> can a printer be shared??
[04:15] <lmurillo> I've been trying to do so for two days now and have not been able
[04:15] <Dddave> me too!
[04:15] <Dddave> okay
[04:18] <liquidboy> gamecat, just answered the phone reading your stuff now... :P
[04:18] <lmurillo> I have tried adding it through samba and WinXP tells me that I don't have enough credentials. I want to use the method I was using before I had Ubuntu installed, that was using the printer directly through CUPS and not through samba, i.e. http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/printer
[04:19] <michael_> where do I get these packages:   Package kdelibs4 is not installed.
[04:19] <michael_>  kasteroids depends on libkdegames1 (>= 4:3.1.0); however:
[04:19] <michael_>   Package libkdegames1 is not installed.
[04:19] <liquidboy> gamecat, not sure how to make a script
[04:19] <liquidboy> or anything
[04:19] <Surphaze> anyone on hoary finding falconseye package freezing after character creation?
[04:19] <gamecat> well, neither do I. My point is, there should be some documentation somewhere on how to overwrite your MBR with an existing GRUB configuration.
[04:19] <gamecat> here, I'll do a quick google on it.
[04:20] <liquidboy> gamecat, i can execute programmes from the hard drive. :)
[04:20] <randabis> cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp
[04:20] <randabis> lol
[04:20] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: yesterday I installed the apt-get install MPlayer 1.0pre6 k6 version...open up the Mplayer Apps > Sound & Video > Mplayer ...an error dialog box came out "New_FACE failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
[04:21] <liquidboy> gamecat, so the 'make grub boot floppy' wont work, cos gruib's not installed?
[04:21] <borat> okay it looks like i semi installed a file from a .deb ( i got an error) so i tried to instal an older version and now it dpkg is saying that it can't stop the procsses so i'm sorta in this limbo stage what can i do?
[04:21] <eyequeue> EvolutionR:  is there some pacakge like mplayer-fonts?
[04:22] <eclipse> anyone knows if there's a driver for nokia 6230 phone for linux?
[04:22] <gamecat> liquidboy : dag, man, I dunno! But here, check this out: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/ch-grub.html
[04:22] <gamecat> (scroll down to the very bottom.)
[04:22] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: I just apt-get Mplayer not fonts...I try to look for it
[04:23] <eyequeue> k
[04:23] <gamecat> Note that I have NEVER DONE THIS. so, at your own risk.
[04:23] <liquidboy> well, ive got nothing to loose
[04:23] <liquidboy> theese files are *quite* important...
[04:23] <gamecat> but it looks like you'll want to open a terminal, go root, surf to your original / 's /sbin
[04:23] <liquidboy> but thats my silly fault for not backing upt o external hd in the first plcae
[04:24] <gamecat> run .grub-install hda1 (I'm assuming that's your main HD?)
[04:24] <jeld> good day everyone
[04:24] <gamecat> and hopefully that'll do it... but before you do anything.
[04:24] <gamecat> did you already have winXP installed?
[04:24] <gamecat> and then you re-installed it?
[04:24] <jeld> can anyone help me with my sudoers file?
[04:25] <liquidboy> damn, doesnt work
[04:25] <jeld> I am trying to setup a command (firestarter firewall) to start automatically. I added a line to my sudoers with NOPASSWD: flag, but now when I open a terminal I can do sudo whatever and never get asked for a password
[04:25] <Croccifixio> back
[04:25] <liquidboy> permission denied
[04:26] <Croccifixio> No
[04:26] <Croccifixio> im allowed to be back
[04:26] <gamecat> suck. Okay, researching, please hold.
[04:26] <jeld> Croccifixio, :)
[04:26] <Croccifixio> and anyways you aren the one il ask the persmission to
[04:26] <Croccifixio> well time to setup the cs server
[04:26] <Croccifixio> Away From Keyboard
[04:27] <Croccifixio> uhh
[04:27] <EvolutionR> eyequeue: u think this theme is kewl? which one is kewl? my gnome desktop Eg.My computer, trashbin,etc..icons so boring! :)http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19775&PHPSESSID=6633c04dd9e8f23f2483a1fe3748b955
[04:27] <Croccifixio> quick question
[04:27] <Croccifixio> how do i stay logged in, but quit x ?
[04:27] <Croccifixio> as in , i stay logged in in the user , but x is closed?
[04:27] <HrdwrBoB> Croccifixio: um.. what do you mean
[04:27] <jeld> Croccifixio, what do you mean stay logged in?
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> Croccifixio: your X session *IS* your login
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> if you kill X
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> you cannot be 'logged in'
[04:28] <Croccifixio> i wanna stay in the command line interface
[04:28] <Croccifixio> without loading x
[04:28] <jeld> Croccifixio, login on a virtual tty and quit X
[04:28] <Croccifixio> how would that be done?
[04:28] <jeld> Croccifixio, CTRL-ALT-F1
[04:28] <Croccifixio> so X is closed?
[04:28] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  you can run a cli irc client (like irssi) under screen, and then attach to that from your x session i guess
[04:28] <Croccifixio> cause i will be using that machine as server not desktop
[04:28] <liquidboy> gamecat, ive just had an idea. ive got a live cd version of beosmax, i can boot into that and tranfer the files over that way...
[04:28] <Croccifixio> so i need to use the less ressources poss
[04:28] <jeld> Croccifixio, then login as user, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:29] <jeld> Croccifixio, that will stop X
[04:29] <Croccifixio> i got two machines
[04:29] <Croccifixio> the one im on
[04:29] <lmurillo> ok, this is what my smb.conf looks like: http://lcmurillo.spymac.net/smb.conf
[04:29] <Croccifixio> and the one i am setting up
[04:29] <liquidboy> hey guyes, if gamecat wonders where ive beem, tell him im trying something and ill be back later if it doesnt work...
[04:29] <gamecat> I'm here.
[04:29] <Croccifixio> sso i go sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[04:29] <gamecat> whoops, shit.
[04:29] <lmurillo> I'm trying to be able to print from a WinXP box
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> Croccifixio: the overhead of running X and not actively using it is close to sweet FA
[04:29] <jeld> can anyone help with my sudo problem?
[04:30] <Croccifixio> FA being...?
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> F all
[04:30] <lmurillo> I keep getting that I don't have enough credentials to install the printer :s
[04:30] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  i do connect to another non-gui box, where i have irssi running under screen
[04:30] <Croccifixio> uh huh
[04:30] <EvolutionR> I've apt-get install k3b, but where is the Gui? which Category section located in order to run k3b?
[04:30] <duncanm> hola
[04:30] <Croccifixio> thats what i wanna do, take out the gui , i mean keep it in, but not use it
[04:30] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  if you run it on the non-gui box, you can connect from that gui box, if you like
[04:30] <duncanm> who's the guy in charge of packaging Mono for Ubuntu?
[04:30] <duncanm> jdub: hey?
[04:30] <Croccifixio> i want to not use the gui
[04:31] <EvolutionR> I've found the k3b in Sound & video.
[04:31] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  make it so that gdm doesn't start
[04:32] <Croccifixio> that would be i go into grub
[04:32] <EvolutionR> But the K3b start with the error dialog box saying "Unable to find CDRAO executable"
[04:32] <Croccifixio> and add a comand line?
[04:32] <Croccifixio> what would the command line be?
[04:32] <nyktovus> need help using grip please
[04:32] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  example, rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm
[04:33] <jeld> can anyone help me configure my sudoers?
[04:33] <EvolutionR> But the K3b start with the error dialog box saying "Unable to find cdrdao executable"
[04:33] <Croccifixio> but that would totally remove it
[04:33] <Croccifixio> i want to keep it
[04:33] <Croccifixio> but use it from time to time
[04:33] <eyequeue> Croccifixio:  i don't want you doing that until you understand that
[04:33] <Croccifixio> i wont dont worry
[04:33] <deshantm> jeld, edit /etc/sudoers
[04:33] <Croccifixio> eyequeue pm, il explain my situation
[04:33] <EvolutionR> I'm installing the cdrdao!
[04:33] <anthem1> Hey all... quick question.  I just installed ubuntu and like it, but I screwed up.  I typed my root password in the dark, and messed it up.  Both times.  Idententically.  Am I just screwed?  Do I need to reinstall?
[04:33] <jeld> deshantm, I have a particular problem, I am trying to add a program to start without a password
[04:34] <jeld> deshantm, after I added a line with NOPASSWD: I am now never prompted for password
[04:34] <jeld> deshantm, for any command
[04:34] <deshantm> jeld, wow that's kinda cool but assuming not what you want?
[04:35] <rapala61> can someone tell me how to patch my 2.6.10 kernel with the 2.6.11 patch on kernel.org
[04:35] <jeld> deshantm, the line reads myuser ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter
[04:35] <EvolutionR> I've tried to run k3bsetup2 run as root dialog box came out, asking me to enter my password...I've put my normal account password it wont get me in?
[04:35] <deshantm> jeld, what are you trying to do?
[04:35] <jeld> deshantm, I only want firestarter not to ask for password
[04:36] <deshantm> jeld, oh i have never done that...
[04:36] <jeld> deshantm, I am not very familiar with sudo and the man page on sudoers is kinda confusing :)
[04:36] <nyktovus> i'm getting an error "invalid encoder executable" in grip.. anyone help?
[04:37] <randabis> EvolutionR, try it without any password
[04:37] <EvolutionR> randabis: okie
[04:38] <EvolutionR> randabis: without password wont let me in either....there's only one way "click ignore" then it let me go to the page!
[04:38] <rapala61> i need help to patch my 2.6.10 kernel with the 2.6.11 patch on kernel.org
[04:38] <EvolutionR> k3bsetup2 why they ask for root password, I've put rootpassword they wont let me in why??????????
[04:39] <jba> EvolutionR, use your own password on sudo
[04:39] <jba> there is no root password
[04:39] <EvolutionR> jba: is my sudo password I'm putting is not letting me in?
[04:39] <jba> EvolutionR, use your logn password when sudo asks for root password
[04:40] <EvolutionR> is all my sudo = root password
[04:40] <EvolutionR> not working for k3bsetup2 u try?
[04:40] <LinkMasterSab> Blah, I wish I could make modem-lights more useful
[04:40] <LinkMasterSab> But uh, pon/poff have to be run under sudo
[04:41] <EvolutionR> rapala61: why u need to patch...something wrong with ur current kernel version?
[04:41] <LinkMasterSab> And I can't make it prompt me for my password
[04:41] <LinkMasterSab> Is there some way to make it give me a password prompt for sudo without it being in terminal?
[04:41] <EvolutionR> LinkMasterSab: Have u try rp-pppoe ?
[04:42] <LinkMasterSab> EvolutionR, what's that?
[04:42] <anthem1> Can anybody tell me  if there's a way to fix my problem?  I evidently mistyped my password when I installed in the dark last night.  Do I have to uninstall?
[04:42] <EvolutionR> LInkMasterSab: is another PPPoE client to connect DSL (internet)
[04:42] <LinkMasterSab> EvolutionR, I'm on dialup
[04:42] <HrdwrBoB> LinkMasterSab: gksudo
[04:42] <kayo> EvolutionR: can you log in as your user?
[04:42] <EvolutionR> jba: try u run k3bsetup...and enter ur password will it let u go in? let me know!
[04:42] <LinkMasterSab> HrdwrBoB, thanks.
[04:43] <EvolutionR> kayo: wat u mean can I log in as user?
[04:43] <jba> EvolutionR, not at my linux machine now dude, sorry, and i run gnome
[04:43] <kayo> soory was for anthem1
[04:43] <rapala61> EvolutionR, not really .. i just wanna try it , but i dunno how to patch kernels "oops"
[04:43] <LinkMasterSab> That's exactly what I needed.
[04:43] <EvolutionR> okie I also run on Gnome too :)
[04:44] <deshantm> jeld, http://techweb.rfa.org/pipermail/portaudio/2002-February/000512.html
[04:44] <EvolutionR> LinkMasterSab: okie
[04:44] <deshantm> jeld, best link i have found so far
[04:44] <LinkMasterSab> Also: is there some way to make a command run on startup? I want it to run the command to setserial my modem
[04:45] <nyktovus> i'm getting an error "invalid encoder executable" in grip.. anyone help?
[04:45] <jeld> deshantm, let me try, but this sounds exactly as what I am doing
[04:45] <deshantm> jeld, this one too http://www.essenz.com/support/comp.unix.admin/Aug/27/110847.html
[04:45] <jdub> nyktovus: sounds like you've configured it to use an encoder that doesn't exist on your system; why grip instead of sound-juicer?
[04:45] <deshantm> jeld, good luck
[04:45] <gamecat> Okay. Who is going to be here for a while?
[04:45] <EvolutionR> jba: if I wanted to burn a vcd to cd I choose k3b > new data CD project will it work?????????????
[04:45] <gamecat> I need to LEAVE, but I've found what liquidboy was looking for.
[04:46] <gamecat> I need someone to pass it on.
[04:46] <jba> yeah so long as you keep the folder structure
[04:47] <gamecat> seriously, anyone who can pass on a URL and a few words?
[04:47] <EvolutionR> I wanted to ask ...I saw so many open source community in the irc channel helping each other out! How bout Microsoft windows like Winxp help channel on irc...is there any? I think open source is much friendlier :)
[04:47] <LinkMasterSab> EvolutionR, there probably is, just unofficial
[04:48] <BMP_> ....wow, that might be the biggest userlist I've ever seen, and I might be the biggest nerd for making that observation.
[04:48] <jeld> deshantm, got it, the sudo cache was tricking me
[04:49] <jeld> deshantm, this is a bit strange though
[04:49] <LinkMasterSab> Is there anything that's equivalent to .chm for Linux?
[04:49] <lmurillo> I'm back, now I have added the printer to WinXp, but when I send something to print the printer goes into pause mode and if I try to resume it it will go back to pause, and it will only resume once the job has been cancelled :(
[04:49] <EvolutionR> oic....now since linux becoming more user friendlier in terms of hardware driver support, I seldom use my Windows XP sp2 running! Hate to patch all those windows updating thing...patch for holes all weekend! :P~
[04:49] <BMP_> Anyone in here played around with Ubuntu Live CD on a PowerPC system?
[04:50] <BMP_> I'm trying to talk it into mounting my HD so I can access all my files and fun things
[04:50] <EvolutionR> I leave my windows XP sp2 for the Multimedia stuff that can't be running at the moment maybe in future like eg. CD-ROM PC games titles...etc
[04:50] <BMP_> all I know is that mac OS X calls the partition /dev/disk0s5, but linux (which I'm not used to, it's far away from my bsd/osx home) has waaay different names for hd partitons.
[04:51] <timothyarnold85> does anyone here know if I can get m4a support (the format itunes rips into) for ubuntu?
[04:51] <smo> EvolutionR: As far as I can tell, you need to go to System Tools -> Root Terminal, and run k3b from there (and not from sudo/gksu) (atleast for long enough to get k3bsetup out the way.  (as per a very bad translation of https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ItalianDocumentationHowToInstallK3b/view?searchterm=k3b )
[04:51] <gamecat> One more time... anyone willing to pass on some info?
[04:51] <jeld> deshantm, try this for fun: 1. open a new gnome terminal 2. sudo visudo <enter password> 3. close the terminal 4. open a new one and try the command again. It will not ask you for a password. I know that sudo remembers authentication info for some time, but I kinda figured that if I close the terminal it would forget that info. Looks that it goes by terminal device to differentiate between sessions
[04:51] <lmurillo> anyone willing to help me get the printer working :(
[04:51] <randabis> gamecat maybe...depends on the info and where I need to pass it too
[04:52] <gamecat> Awesome randabis, thanks.
[04:52] <BMP_> try that hymn program people were pushing around
[04:52] <jeld> deshantm, thanx
[04:52] <EvolutionR> I heard the Mac Mini was lauched few days ago, if not mistaken, have anyone else running mini mac???? how was it? I think mini mac was the affordable mac package in my country (Malaysia) at the moment!
[04:52] <gamecat> liquidboy, when he comes back, needs info involving GRUB.
[04:52] <BMP_> that supposedly can make it play a little nicer
[04:52] <gamecat> what he wants is right here: http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.htm
[04:52] <randabis> okay
[04:52] <randabis> I can do that
[04:52] <gamecat> The reason what he was trying to do earlier didn't work is that he was trying to install to a partition, i.e. hda1.
[04:52] <BMP_> mini mac is definetley the most affordable mac in any country at the moment. I've played with one in the store, they're very nice
[04:53] <lmurillo> I have done exactly what the wiki faq says and I still get the same error :(
[04:53] <randabis> I wouldn't run a Mac Mini with less than 512MB ram though
[04:53] <gamecat> he couldn't do that, because there was some sort of sanity check keeping him from killing his winxp bootloader.
[04:53] <EvolutionR> smo: meaning have to run as root ....okie mean it's not necessary for me to run the k3bsetup2 at the moment! just wanna burn some vcds to cd
[04:53] <randabis> hah
[04:53] <BMP_> OS X felt nice and snappy on it. Final Cut Pro and such kinda choked
[04:53] <gamecat> Anyway, what he wants is on the page.
[04:53] <gamecat> tell him to use the instructions to build a grub boot disk from windows.
[04:53] <BMP_> and yes, bump the ram on any mac, they're very hungry for ti
[04:53] <BMP_> *it
[04:54] <gamecat> and then follow the instructions to boot into linux, and THEN run grub-install to overwrite the master boot record.
[04:54] <randabis> Well the problem with 256MB RAM on a mac mini is there will be too much disk swapping going on
[04:54] <gamecat> All else fails: http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.htm has everything he needs.
[04:54] <gamecat> Thanks so much!
[04:54] <randabis> ok
[04:54] <randabis> np
[04:54] <EvolutionR> BMP: except for the limited RAM for the Mac Mini, can add more RAM to it any more slots?
[04:54] <gamecat> /exit ciao amigos
[04:54] <randabis> the 512MB upgrade for the mac mini is only 70 dollars
[04:54] <BMP_> there's only that one slot in there, you have to take the original ram out to put more in =/
[04:54] <smo> As I understand it, there's a single slot, which may take one of 256/512/1024 (at your option/expense)
[04:55] <randabis> yes
[04:55] <BMP_> don't buy ram from apple though, shop around, they charge far too much for it
[04:55] <randabis> 70 dollars for 512MB is pretty competitive I think...I believe it's PC3200 even
[04:55] <EvolutionR> randabis: I always admire Mac design their so kewl, but never get to experience the Mac computer yet like G4 G5 Mac Mini
[04:55] <BMP_> this computer I'm on is about 300 megs of ram (an older iBook) it has to go to the disk a lot
[04:55] <xskoulax> from what i was reading BMP_ the 512 upgrade is well priced
[04:55] <BMP_> did they drop it? it used to be a fortune
[04:55] <xskoulax> but yea in general buying ram from apple is a mistake
[04:56] <randabis> BMP yes they did price cuts on both the 512MB and 1024MB upgrades
[04:56] <EvolutionR> BMP_: in my country (malaysia) I dont think any other shops selling Mac RAMs around, only the Mac apple shops selling...
[04:56] <deshantm> jeld, cool glad you got it i will try what you said
[04:56] <xskoulax> EvolutionR, shop online
[04:56] <EvolutionR> xkoulax: good idea!
[04:57] <EvolutionR> xskoulax: good idea!
[04:57] <randabis> EvolutionR, Yes, they are very asthetically pleasing, and MacOSX is a great OS
 that was a good idea for the single slot, which may take one of 256/512/1024 (at your option/expense)
[04:57] <randabis> I don't have one, but if I were to get one, I'd definitely get a mac mini with 512MB, plus a superdrive
[04:58] <BMP_> I'm a big fan of it myself. OS 9 and the ones before were....okay. Despite what mac fans say, I think windows had caught up or surpassed it. OS X was a smart move.
[04:58] <EvolutionR> Mac computer system are always good at Multimedia Stuff like DVD movie editing....etc so add 1 gZ of RAM should be good enuf/ minimum RaM IMHO
[04:58] <randabis> I hated OS9 personally :p
[04:59] <xskoulax> the ibook is a better value than the mac mini
[04:59] <randabis> EvolutionR, Yeah, but you'd start getting limited by the CPU in the Mac Mini
[04:59] <xskoulax> overall
[04:59] <EvolutionR> Anyone using Mac Mini with Ubuntu or Linux Distros at the moment?
[04:59] <BMP_> my powerbook is a couple of years old and I bumped it to 1 gig of ram. It runs final cut pro and all the pro apps without a hitch. It's processor is similar to the mac mini's as well
[04:59] <randabis> xskoulax, Yeah, I agree...the new powerbooks are pretty affordable too (they just released faster, cheaper ones)
[05:00] <EvolutionR> randabis: what's the specs of the CPU ?
[05:00] <BMP_> I've used the powerbook and iBook with ubuntu liveCD going. no hitches. Everything worked.
[05:00] <xskoulax> i really want iMac 20" but that will have to wait a while yet, i need to upgrade my gaming box first
[05:00] <xskoulax> yea noticed that today
[05:00] <xskoulax> my dad has powerbook and got my brother ibook for xmas
[05:00] <xskoulax> both really nice machines
[05:00] <randabis> EvolutionR, I believe the Mac Mini starts with a G4 1.25GHZ cpu
 my powerbook is a couple of years old and I bumped it to 1 gig of ram. It runs final cut pro and all the pro apps without a hitch. It's processor is similar to the mac mini's as well <---it means mac mini with 1 gig of RAM can run those mulitmedia stuff like final cut pro without a hitch? kewl!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <xskoulax> randabis thats correst
[05:01] <randabis> The more expensive one has a 1.4 I think
[05:01] <xskoulax> ummm s correst/correct ;p
[05:01] <randabis> hehe
[05:01] <xskoulax> biggest draw back on the mac mini imho is the laptop drive its using
[05:01] <EvolutionR> randabis: can compare to Mac Mini with Athlon XP models????????????
[05:02] <BMP_> EvolutionR: yep. It does just fine. now the Power Mac G5 is unbelievable with that kind of stuff, but the powerbook (and I bet the mini mac) will fare just fine.
[05:02] <xskoulax> i wish they would have made the box bigger but thrown a sata drive in there
[05:02] <randabis> EvolutionR, They are different architectures and run different operating systems...kinda hard to compare
[05:02] <xskoulax> or ide even
[05:02] <EvolutionR> okie
[05:02] <BMP_> Here's a question. I'd love to jump over to Ubuntu on the main computer in my house, which is a 500mhz Dell clunk running XP home (decent ram at least), the only problem is that it gets it's internet access through wifi, specifically a Linksys USB wifi adapter.
[05:02] <shock> my powerbook g4 15" runs like a charm, too =)
[05:02] <EvolutionR> randabis: okie :)
[05:02] <BMP_> if I were to ubuntu that up, would it play nice?
[05:02] <shock> just wanted to mention that
[05:02] <BMP_> wow, lotsa mac fans in here =P
[05:03] <randabis> BMP_, Well, you'd have to check if the usb adapter is supported with NDISWRAPPER
[05:03] <shock> *g*
[05:03] <shock> I would be VERY carefull about anthing usb
[05:03] <shock> :/
[05:03] <EvolutionR> BMP: Mac computer systems design looks kewl especially their LCD monitors, mouse , keyboard WoW!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:03] <randabis> also, it most likely will NOT run out of the box
[05:03] <raydogg> randabis, do you have smb4k in your repository, I do not see it.
[05:03] <shock> just had some bad experiences with usb gadgets @ my girlfriends computer....
[05:04] <shock> *sigh*
[05:04] <randabis> so, you'll need to connect it to wired internet to grab some packages for it (or do some CD burning
[05:04] <xskoulax> shock, you know if they have drivers for that stupid broadcom chip in the airport extream yet?
[05:04] <EvolutionR> I've heard the Mac thing have their wifi something ????
[05:04] <BMP_> it might end up being okay though. there is talk of our house moving the wireless base station because of signal issues, and if we did, that'd put that computer within ethernet cable range of the base.
[05:04] <shock> they dont
[05:04] <shock> :/
[05:04] <xskoulax> thought that was the case
[05:04] <randabis> raydogg, I'll look
[05:04] <raydogg> thanks
[05:04] <shock> but at least suspends working nowadays
[05:04] <shock> :)
[05:04] <raydogg> I got everything else working :-)
[05:04] <raydogg> Just not that
[05:04] <BMP_> Mac's Wifi thing is no different from anyone else's. they just call it Airport, or AirMac in some parts of the world
[05:04] <raydogg> by everything, i mean everything i used to do in mandrake
[05:04] <randabis> raydogg, Yes, I have it in my repositories
[05:05] <raydogg> odd
[05:05] <raydogg> i wonder what i'm doing wrong
[05:05] <randabis> I run hoary though
[05:05] <xskoulax> BMP_, i know, but broadcom dosn't provide drivers or technical info for other people to make them
[05:05] <raydogg> i'm running warty i think
[05:05] <EvolutionR> wow suddenly MAC fans here LOL @_0
[05:05] <BMP_> how well does Ubuntu act as a server? that computer running XP home might be in a good position for Apache now.
[05:05] <shock> jup... and never forget that wonderfull "firmware layer" in macs :/
[05:05] <EvolutionR> anybody running Linux on Mac Mini / G5?
[05:06] <BMP_> God knows Ubuntu will be better than _XP Home_ for hosting
[05:06] <eyequeue> shock:  how did you get suspend working?
[05:06] <randabis> ndiswrapper will work with broadcom chipsets though :)
[05:06] <randabis> not out of the box, but after you set it up
[05:06] <shock> installing a patched kernel
[05:06] <eyequeue> BMP_:  "fine" imo
[05:06] <randabis> BMP_ Ubuntu can make an excellent server
[05:06] <shock> with a patch posted in debian-powerpc mailing list
[05:06] <shock> =)