[10:41] <palc1> redguy, I thought it might be possible to just edit a file within a deb package. Is it?
[10:42] <alheim> crimsun hmmmm I'm not in front of my home coputer
[10:42] <mylo> ID_of_Fei, mine is genius wizardpen
[10:42] <crimsun> palc1: as in change something in a file contained in a debian package file? No. You must extract it, make the change, then rebuild the package.
[10:42] <narzy> I installed ESP Print Pro on my ubuntu box, and it broke a bunch of packages
[10:43] <narzy> is there any way for me to clean them up?
[10:43] <Healot> iLee, did you just append "umask=0022" or you remove the prior masks?
[10:43] <crimsun> alheim: you need to have at least ssh access to the Ubuntu Breezy install
[10:43] <Healot> ro,auto,nouser,umask=0022  << mine
[10:43] <alheim> crimsun : i have installed the alsa drivers
[10:43] <iLee> Healot: /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    umask=0022       0       0
[10:43] <ID_of_Fei> mylo, mine's a crappy little trust wireless scroll TB-4200
[10:43] <jdumont> howdy... is there a way to lock down a linux box say for an internet kiosk?
[10:43] <crimsun> alheim: please be more precise.
[10:44] <canllaith> jdumont: KDE has the kiosk framework, the new gnome 2.14 release candidate also has a tool
[10:44] <Psykus> gnome question, the thing that flashes the windows in the window list (like if there's an IM) doesn't stop flashing when I open the window, is there anyway to change/fix this? it seems to stop after a predetermined amount of time
[10:44] <alheim> crimsun : sorry....i cannot connect to my home computer
[10:44] <jdumont> thank you canilaith
[10:44] <redguy> jdumont: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/README.kiosk?view=markup
[10:44] <crimsun> alheim: it is nearly impossible to assist you in troubleshooting if you don't have at least ssh access to the Ubuntu Breezy install. Please try again later.
[10:44] <canllaith> jdumont: there is also a mailing list for the kiosk framework you might like to join and ask some questions/read some archives
[10:44] <alheim> crimsun ok...thanks anyway
[10:45] <palc1> redguy, d'you know which package contains the repo list?
[10:45] <canllaith> jdumont: http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/
[10:45] <narzy> I installed ESP Print Pro on my ubuntu box, and it broke a bunch of packages
[10:45] <narzy> is there any way for me to clean them up?
[10:45] <jdumont> i've always been a late comer to new operating systems and have recently learned to lock down xp/2000 but xp is my last ms operating system so i may as well learn it in linux.
[10:46] <narzy> thats the spirit jdmpike
[10:46] <narzy> err jdumont
[10:46] <bigfoot1> what can i do to make my computer (powered on) to auto-lock at 830am Monday to Friday, regardless if somebody is currently using the computer?
[10:47] <redguy> palc1: AFAIK sources.list is generated during the install, don't know which package does it actually, sorry
[10:47] <narzy> cronjob logout every 30 seconds for that time period
[10:47] <palc1> redguy, sorry for asking these many may be silly qs, how can I extract a deb file so to edit and rebuild it afterwards ?
[10:48] <bigfoot1> narzy: oh cronjob? how do i do that? please teach step by step if you please
[10:48] <iLee> how would i search for all files that countain "John cabot" in hda1 ?
[10:48] <mylo> ID_of_Fei, http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xhorak28/index.php.iso-8859-1?page=WizardPen_Driver
[10:48] <morphix> hmm.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9780
[10:48] <morphix> some help plz :(
[10:48] <mylo> ID_of_Fei, i use that driver
[10:48] <ErPiU> iLee, MAN GREP
[10:49] <wyawc2000> if i reinstall windows,  how to install grub right
[10:49] <iLee> grep only works for 1 file
[10:49] <redguy> palc1: hrmm, never done it myself. Maybe crimsun could help you on that
[10:49] <Healot> with all small letters
[10:49] <aeolist> anybody using qemu? i installed a new kernel, do i have to recompile qemu + kqemu to make it work? if so, how can i remove the previous qemu installation? i did the checkinstall thingy
[10:49] <ErPiU> iLee, grep "John cabot" * -R
[10:50] <wyawc2000> why i reinstall grub using liveCD, and i install grub, but , i also couldn't log in ubuntu...
[10:50] <ErPiU> iLee,  grep "John cabot" . -R
[10:50] <doug2m2> quitte
[10:50] <doug2m2> quit
[10:51] <morphix> hrm..
[10:52] <Spec> xgl is awesome... :p
[10:52] <Psykus> is there any way to get wine to use different themes or XP style theming for windows apps?
[10:53] <Madpilot> wyawc2000, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:54] <shinu> when i run fsck /dev/hda, it dumps an erro aroud fsck.iso9660 not found, can i disable the iso fsck somehow?
[10:54] <palco> reduy, is there some kind of deb package viewer/unpacker? can debs be unpacked with the standard archive tool?
[10:54] <Healot> shinu, you don't fsck a CD?
[10:54] <crimsun> palco: dpkg-deb -x, or ar, or ...
[10:54] <iLee> ErPiU, i want to search /hda1 though
[10:54] <ErPiU> iLee, grep "John cabot" /media/hda1 -R --inc="*.txt"
[10:55] <iLee> ErPiU, thanks
[10:55] <crimsun> palco: yes, file-roller will extract the contents, too, by using the appropriate backend
[10:55] <shinu> Healot nope, its a hd im trying to fix, though it has many different partitions, including an ntfs one
[10:55] <ErPiU> iLee, this will search for *.txt files !
[10:55] <palco> crimsun, oh, thanx
[10:56] <iLee> ErPiU, is it case sensitive ?
[10:56] <palco> crimsun, d'uoy know which packages generates the repo list during install?
[10:56] <crimsun> palco: the installer bits are not my knowledge, sorry.
[10:56] <wyawc2000> i have been do it, according it .
[10:56] <ErPiU> iLee, yes , man grep :)
[10:57] <crimsun> palco: what do you need to do?
[10:57] <john__> hi guys
[10:57] <wyawc2000> but when i reboot, log in ubuntu, it tell me , my gnome have a problem
[10:57] <iLee> ErPiU, is there a switch to make it UN case sentisive
[10:57] <tharglet> I tend to have trouble reading/understanding man pages... urgh
[10:58] <shreevatsa> iLee, -i
[10:58] <shreevatsa> iLee, (for case-*i*nsentive)
[10:58] <jdumont> canlliath looks like i will subscribe to the kde-kiosk mailing list for now.  thanks everyone... gotta get back to bed.    shhhhh
[10:58] <john__> how can i change the root password in ubuntu
[10:59] <john__> ?
[10:59] <redguy> john__: why would you want to do that?
[10:59] <farous> what is a good appl to open rtf files?
[10:59] <redguy> farous: abiword?
[10:59] <john__> because i need root rights
[10:59] <redguy> john__: what's wrong with sudo?
[10:59] <john__> in the default installation is no root configured
[10:59] <farous> redguy: it is just text right?
[10:59] <tharglet> john__, is it something u can do with sudo?
[10:59] <Madpilot> john__, use sudo & your own user pw
[10:59] <Madpilot> !sudo
[10:59] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:59] <palco> crimsun, I am on a 400 pcs network. Iwant to create a small repo in the network. So I thought may be it is possible to edit the repo list on the Ubuntu install CD so that my repo is listed in the repo list after installation when the CD image was downloaded from me. Such a custom Ubuntu Install CD // Do you think that's possible?
[10:59] <Healot> wait a sec, how to compile source code package and package it at the same time, like rpmbuild does?
[11:00] <iLee> yay it worked :D
[11:00] <farous> redguy: am not an abiword fan would openoffice or maybe just gedit open it
[11:00] <iLee> i found my old CV :D
[11:00] <crimsun> palco: sure, you need to read the example-content stuff on the wiki
[11:00] <tharglet> iLee, :D
[11:00] <redguy> farous: can rtf files contain antyhing else than text? rtf stands for Rich Text Format, doesn't it?
[11:00] <crimsun> palco: you will end up generating a customised Ubuntu image
[11:00] <redguy> farous: gedit most propably won't. OOo should manage as good as abiword
[11:01] <Healot> wait a sec, how to compile source code package and package it at the same time, like rpmbuild does?
[11:01] <farous> redguy: ok thanx this guy scanned some papers and sent it do not know how in rtf
[11:01] <farous> thanx again redguy
[11:01] <ErPiU> iLee, and now we know your real name :D
[11:01] <crimsun> Healot: from Debianised/Ubuntuised source?
[11:01] <iLee> ErPiU, you do :S
[11:01] <Healot> yeah
[11:01] <crimsun> Healot: debuild
[11:02] <Healot> thanks
[11:02] <iLee> ErPiU, how ?
[11:02] <palco> crimsun, Id probably have to download the whole image then, but all I need just a modified list ..
[11:02] <Healot> i really missed the flexibiity of Redhat-based distro...
[11:02] <crimsun> palco: that's correct.
[11:03] <morphix> hmm.. whats the package name for mysql-dev?
[11:03] <ErPiU> iLee, aren't you "John Cabot" ? ;)
[11:03] <morphix> cant seem to find it amongst apt-cache
[11:03] <iLee> ErPiU, silly :P thats my school
[11:03] <[nige] > anyone know how to way to see the way that IE renders pagas under linux?
[11:03] <crimsun> !info libmysqlclient14-dev
[11:03] <ubotu> libmysqlclient14-dev: (mysql database development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 5221 kB, Installed size: 14616 kB
[11:03] <ErPiU> lol
[11:03] <iLee> lol
[11:03] <shreevatsa> [nige] , IE? *gasps*
[11:03] <[nige] > yer i know
[11:04] <crimsun> morphix: see what ubotu just stated.
[11:04] <shreevatsa> what would make you run IE on Linux?
[11:04] <[nige] > i want to be able to setup css and tables things so it looks fine in most browsers
[11:04] <morphix> ah k thanks crimsun
[11:04] <[nige] > no, I dont want to do it, but i may have too :(
[11:04] <iLee> brb
[11:04] <redguy> [nige] : winetools allows you to install IE fairly easily
[11:04] <[nige] > its the only way I can check rendering,
[11:04] <palco> crimsun, could you suggest any website or may be a channel where people might talk on this ...
[11:05] <[nige] > yer i have it installed, but ie is borked....i dont have any toolbars
[11:05] <redguy> [nige] : but AFAIK winetools is not in the repos, you would have to install it by yourself
[11:05] <crimsun> palco: have you searched the wiki and forum(s)?
[11:05] <raphink> installling IE on wine is illegal
[11:05] <[nige] > yep, its a script
[11:05] <morphix> :|
[11:05] <redguy> raphink: not true, it's illegal if you don't have a valid Windows License
[11:05] <morphix> who the <blank> would want to use that shit anyway?
[11:06] <raphink> morphix: ;)
[11:06] <[nige] > for rendering purposes
[11:06] <morphix> ppfft
[11:06] <morphix> render my ass
[11:06] <[nige] > i wanna see it work properly
[11:06] <palco> looking through the wiki, almost gave up searching forums. cannot figure out how the search function actually works there ///
[11:06] <redguy> morphix: sadly, about 75% of people browsing Internet
[11:06] <morphix> n00bs.
[11:06] <[nige] > morphix, did you ever use IE at any stage??
[11:07] <[nige] > whether forced or by choice :P
[11:07] <morphix> used it up until i got told of firefox and opera
[11:07] <ErPiU> morphix, some sites like IE only !
[11:07] <[nige] > ahh i seee... thats just as bad :P
[11:07] <[nige] > you should just used lynx :P
[11:07] <Toma-> id just make it work good for firefox, and add one of those trendy "Get Firefox" Buttons to the page.. and a "Get Linux" one too :D
[11:07] <morphix> get the firefox plugin.. fake it :P
[11:07] <Protocol1> has anyone in here got camfrog to run on ubuntu?
[11:07] <[nige] > whats it called?
[11:07] <[nige] > whats the pluggin called
[11:08] <canllaith> Actually, I recently had a look at crossover office's faq on licensing issues for microsoft software running under wine
[11:08] <morphix> cant remember its name. but it can spoof the browser
[11:08] <canllaith> and it's their opinion it's perfectly legal
[11:08] <morphix> to appear as anything else
[11:08] <morphix> e.g IE
[11:08] <ac> how start pureftp?
[11:08] <morphix> the ONLY site it wont work with.. is of course micros$haft winblows update
[11:09] <shreevatsa> why would anyone use lynx when elinks is available?
[11:09] <Toma-> links2 -g is pretty rad too
[11:10] <feugan3333> Hi all. Does anyone know how to enter special characters in on the keyboard, such as the pound sign.
[11:10] <redguy> what do you need links for when you have telnet!
[11:10] <afd__> hi! How do i install opera 9 on dapper? I get something about missing xlibs, I checked and I don't have that, but I have libx. I've tried this with the static linked qt cversion
[11:10] <Toma-> feugan3333, like, shift-3?
[11:11] <crimsun> feugan3333: (that's not a special character given certain keyboard configurations)
[11:11] <Toma-> afd__, #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[11:11] <Toma-> RTFT
[11:11] <morphix> [nige]  btw if i went ANYWHERE with a IE only pc.. i would take my usb flash drive which has firefox on it :P
[11:11] <[nige] > lol
[11:11] <[nige] > but you still used it :P
[11:11] <feugan3333> I mean like the english currency
[11:11] <crimsun>
[11:11] <Toma-> oic
[11:11] <morphix> yes.. but i never use it anymore
[11:11] <Toma->
[11:11] <raphink>
[11:12] <feugan3333> AAAaahhh
[11:12] <Toma-> i use the xchat character chart
[11:12] <sgamer_> ok i have a quick question
[11:12] <afd__> Toma-: how to get an answer from there, that channel is not as active as this oen
[11:12] <sgamer_> if i have a ton of tars in a directory and just want to untar them all in the directory at once with a command, what would i use?
[11:12] <Toma-> afd__, probably because dapper isnt supported yet.
[11:12] <NET||abuse> anyone know anything about mounting with -t cifs,
[11:12] <crimsun> feugan3333: Accessories> Character Map
[11:12] <Madpilot> Toma-, where does XChat hide the character chart?
[11:12] <morphix> sgamer_ tar -xf *.tar
[11:12] <sgamer_> doesnt work
[11:13] <NET||abuse> i've tried mounting with a number different options
[11:13] <morphix> should
[11:13] <morphix> works here
[11:13] <sgamer_> i know
[11:13] <Toma-> Madpilot, Window>Character Chart
[11:13] <morphix> i use it all the time
[11:13] <TrendyDark> if i wanted to install KDE/XFCE and still have gnome, i would just use apt-get and select the WM at start up right?
[11:13] <Madpilot> Toma-, ah, just found it - thanks
[11:13] <Toma-> np
[11:13] <NET||abuse> but it keeps saying mount error 1 = Operation not permitted
[11:13] <raphink> TrendyDark: yes
[11:13] <TrendyDark> thanks, raphink, just a quick question lol
[11:13] <sgamer_> i just get a lot of tar: whatever.tar: Not found in archive
[11:13] <feugan3333> Ok, but i was hoping to do it with the keyboard, like on windows :-)
[11:13] <morphix> odd
[11:13] <fsancho> hi all
[11:13] <NET||abuse> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[11:13] <sgamer_> i know
[11:13] <NET||abuse> now i've read the whole man page,
[11:13] <NET||abuse> but nothing is evidently wrong
[11:14] <ramlez> /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[11:14] <Emperor> good morning
[11:14] <redguy> feugan3333: try alt-shift-3
[11:14] <ramlez> oh sorry ;)
[11:14] <bimberi> TrendyDark: you select them from the login screen (Session menu)
[11:14] <ph1qt10n> i accidentally installed grub on MBR, now windows won't boot, any help?
[11:14] <NsOmNiAc> looking for help setting up my wireless laptop to connect
[11:14] <ph1qt10n> will fixmbr correct the error? or fixboot on windows?
[11:14] <NsOmNiAc> jacked in no problem
[11:14] <NET||abuse> my mount command is mount.cifs kernel mount options unc=//<IP_ADDRESS>\Users,ip=<IP_ADDRESS>,pass=pw,ver=1,rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noauto,username=user,dom=DOMAIN
[11:14] <morphix> ph1qt10n: why wouldnt u install grub on mbr? lol
[11:14] <NsOmNiAc> but wireless I'm having issues
[11:14] <Emperor> NsOmNiAc, what is the problem ? did you have installed the wireless stuff ?
[11:14] <NsOmNiAc> yup
[11:15] <NsOmNiAc> nciswrapper
[11:15] <fsancho> anyone with the same problem? i'm using dapper and have dist-upgraded just today, and firefox crash with with any page with flash
[11:15] <NsOmNiAc> everything
[11:15] <ph1qt10n> morphix, because hd0,0 is the MBR, and grub is supposed to be installed on hd0,4 which is my linux partition
[11:15] <NsOmNiAc> even something that is called WiFi Radar
[11:15] <Emperor> fsancho, had the same with other mozilla applications like thunderbird and ftd4linux also.. wasnt able to fix it
[11:15] <ph1qt10n> and remember ubuntu assigns hd0,0 tu windows, now everytime i select windows on grub, the grub restarts it loops.
[11:16] <Toma-> fsancho, file a bug. thx.
[11:16] <J_element> running ubuntu 5.1 , i have a wireless nic usb , DLInk DWL-G122
[11:16] <J_element> i cant seem to get the driver for it
[11:16] <J_element> any one familiar with this problem ?
[11:16] <Emperor> NsOmNiAc, hmm i think i cannot help you, dont have wireless here to guide you.
[11:16] <NsOmNiAc> I followed this http://www.vollink.com/gary/deb_wifi.html
[11:16] <Madpilot> !wireless
[11:16] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:17] <J_element> Madpilot,  please illustrate ...
[11:17] <Madpilot> J_element, read the URL that ubotu posted ^^^
[11:17] <NsOmNiAc> ok saved that will look at that later today
[11:17] <NsOmNiAc> thanks
[11:17] <J_element> k thx
[11:17] <ph1qt10n> i accidentally installed grub on MBR, now windows won't boot, any help? will fixmbr correct this problem or fixboot?
[11:18] <redguy> ph1qt10n: fixmbr will fix windows, but it will break grub
[11:18] <ph1qt10n> redguy: and what about fixboot?
[11:19] <ramlez> how i can paste tahoma font into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/custom ??
[11:19] <redguy> ph1qt10n: you should be able to boot windows with grub in the MBR
[11:19] <[nige] > hmm spoof doesnt work so well
[11:19] <Healot> fixboot only rebuilds the boot.ini file
[11:19] <redguy> ph1qt10n: can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst file to the pastebin?
[11:19] <tharglet> Has anyone else had problems downloading via FF on BB 5.10?
[11:19] <redguy> !tell ph1qt10n about pastebin
[11:19] <bluewater1000> ph1qt10n: basically XP will over write mbr and take out linux,, ,, linux when insatlled over XP is a good corporate citizen
[11:19] <Toma-> chainloader!
[11:20] <linuxboyfriend> !mysql
[11:20] <ubotu> methinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:20] <ac> why pureftp can`t start?
[11:20] <Dr_J> morning all..  are there any other settings for the remote desktop feature in ubuntu?  ie can i restrict which IPs can connect to it?
[11:20] <Healot> P = Perl, PHP, Python, and Poof
[11:22] <Toma-> Dr_J, hummm. might need a more fully featured VNC server for that. or, some IPtables rules
[11:22] <Emperor> Dr_Fate, IPtables would do the trick i think
[11:22] <golanx> Hi! There is an error in an ubuntulinux.org page: who can I contact about it?
[11:22] <Mart> hi, hopefully an easy one
[11:23] <Madpilot> golanx, which page?
[11:23] <golanx> http://www.ubuntu.com/developers
[11:23] <redguy> ph1qt10n: sorry got to go now, but somebody here or in #grub will be able to help you out. grub in the MBR is a good solution in most cases.
[11:23] <Mart> I have a clean install of ubuntu, but need to update the drivers or the screen is corrupt once it boots
[11:23] <tharglet> Argh, lost a library... something can't find -lgdbm... the help says it uses perl... any clues to where I get to download the lib?
[11:23] <golanx> it says that the next conference will be "below zero", but it already happened :-)
[11:23] <Mart> trying to install the nvidia it has asked for binutils, gcc and make
[11:24] <Mart> I did the sudo apt-get thing on all those and now its asking for libc
[11:24] <Emperor> !nvidia
[11:24] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:24] <Ng> Mart: you probably need to install build-essential
[11:24] <Madpilot> !b-e
[11:24] <ubotu> from memory, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[11:24] <ph1qt10n> redguy: i accidentally installed grub on (hd0,0) MBR, and the GRUB is pointing that windows is on hd0,0, so grub loops each time i select windows xp to boot
[11:24] <ph1qt10n> redguy: fixmbr will restore the windows boot correct? then i can reiinstall GRUB on hd0,4 ubuntu partition
[11:24] <rem_> anyone knows what clamav shows in logs when a virus is found ? (when file is clean it says "ok", when not .. ?)
[11:24] <Mart> many thanks
[11:24] <golanx> Madpilot: do you have any suggestions?
[11:24] <Mart> i'll give that a try :)
[11:25] <Madpilot> golanx, that page looks pretty neglected, to be honest - I'll ask about it, though - thanks
[11:25] <morphix> ph1qt10n: what hdd is your xp on?
[11:25] <tharglet> Anyone any idea?
[11:25] <morphix> u NEED grub on the mbr of your first bootable hdd
[11:26] <morphix> oh he left
[11:26] <golanx> Madpilot: tbh, I think that it is an unuseful page (in that form)
[11:26] <morphix> meh
[11:26] <golanx> in the future: who is in charge of it?
[11:26] <munti78> using ssh what is the best way to edit a text file on remote server?
[11:26] <golanx> I mean, 4 the future: who is in charge of it?
[11:27] <bluewater1000> golanx:  you are now in charge of it,, what ever it , is
[11:27] <munti78> anyone?
[11:27] <crimsun> munti78: "best"?
[11:27] <Madpilot> golanx<EMAIL_ADDRESS>should work
[11:27] <golanx> bluewater1000: don't waste words
[11:28] <golanx> Madpilot: thanks
[11:28] <crimsun> munti78: if you use ssh, your cli editors are a good start, like vim, emacs, joe, nano, etc.
[11:28] <munti78> crimsun: or, can I edit a textfile in a terminal while working with ssh and on remote server
[11:28] <Frogzoo> ok, I have kismet working with my ipw2200, but ethereal doesn't see the eth1 interface, how to fix please?
[11:28] <crimsun> Frogzoo: is ipw2200 eth1?
[11:29] <Frogzoo> crimsun: indeed!
[11:29] <crimsun> Frogzoo: then select it in ethereal's configuration
[11:29] <Dr_J> ill try the ip tables then thanks..
[11:29] <munti78> crimsun: thanks
[11:29] <Frogzoo> crimsun: ah, didn't realise ethereal _had_ a config - will look, thx
[11:29] <Toma-> Dr_J, firestarter might be a good app if you dont understand IPtables
[11:30] <Emperor> i am glad, that i am back on breezy again, i used dapper for 2 weeks
[11:31] <Emperor> great feature's, annonying bugs. but he, its beta :)
[11:31] <narzy> this is just irritating
[11:31] <narzy> I mean I know I was the one who screwed it up.
[11:31] <narzy> but for god sakes atleast work when I try to fix it.
[11:31] <narzy> god damn esp print pro software
[11:31] <narzy> the thing is a peice of shit
[11:32] <Toma-> narzy, so whats the question?
[11:33] <tharglet> build_gpt [11:33] <tharglet> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdbm
[11:33] <tharglet> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:33] <tharglet> That sound important to fix or not :P
[11:33] <Emperor> ldconfig should do the trick i guess
[11:33] <Emperor> if not, apt-get it :)
[11:34] <Psykus> can anyone suggest a good playstation emulator for linux? i tried both epsxe and pcsx, but they kept crashing when I was trying to configure them
[11:34] <Toma-> Psykus, theyll do that. epsxe is the best, imho.
[11:36] <morphix> hmm anyone familar with installed SlimServer on ubuntu?
[11:36] <Frogzoo> crimsun: if I look in ethereal -> prefs -> capture -> interfaces  - there's no entry for eth1 so what next?
[11:36] <morphix> i seem to have as much as luck as trying to run on water
[11:36] <rem_> ok  I found it, its just there wasnt any virus just worms .. :P
[11:36] <Psykus> i did get epsxe running, but it was going way too fast with the game I was trying to play, and since the configure menu wasn't working, I couldn't fix it
[11:36] <hondadarrell_> can anyone tell me how to navigate to the desktop using root terminal?
[11:36] <crimsun> Frogzoo: are you using it currently with kismet?
[11:36] <Frogzoo> crimsun: nope ;)
[11:36] <ubuntu> hi
[11:36] <crimsun> tharglet: then you need libgdbm-dev
[11:37] <crimsun> Frogzoo: it is out of promis mode?
[11:37] <aztek> how do i get a piece of hardware to use a different driver than the one it is currently using?
[11:37] <KenzoIX> hi everyone
[11:37] <Frogzoo> crimsun: thought promi was required - turning it off right now
[11:37] <narzy> Toma my printer refuses to work
[11:37] <KenzoIX> i've just installed ubuntu :D
[11:37] <KenzoIX> now i've so much question
[11:37] <Sevaen> hi people..
[11:37] <crimsun> Frogzoo: ethereal will handle putting it into promis
[11:38] <danboid> is there such a repos. as breezy-extras?
[11:38] <rem_> honda, just go to /home/user/Desktop/ .
[11:38] <KenzoIX> 1st...when i insert a CD
[11:38] <KenzoIX> how can I eject it?
[11:38] <Sevaen> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to lock the desktop background so it cant be changed? Or by locking out the rightclick option perhaps?
[11:38] <rem_> u can add an applet in the toolbar for that or you can umount /media/cdrom and then eject it ..
[11:38] <Psykus> Toma, what graphics plugin did you use?
[11:38] <narzy> and in the process of trying to make it work, I fucked things up
[11:38] <rem_> kenz
[11:39] <narzy> now I can't fix it.
[11:39] <variant> lo all, i just compiled the rt2750 kernel module for my belkin usb wireless adaptor.. it seems to work and i can modprobe it. iwconfig shows a device with wireless extensions etc but when i run the network configuration from the menu the system virtualy hangs.. top shows ifconfig with a cpu usage of 99%.. anyone got any idea what that might be?
[11:39] <narzy> and I'm screwed!
[11:39] <J_element> it didnt work
[11:39] <J_element> it didnt accept the .inf file :S
[11:39] <J_element> what now :S
[11:39] <variant> and i can't kill ifconfig and logging out (ctrl alt backspace) does not kill the program either
[11:39] <rem_> brb
[11:40] <variant> J_element: what you trying to do?
[11:40] <Toma-> Psykus, its been a while, but the opengl one
[11:40] <J_element> install a DLINK Dwl G122
[11:40] <narzy> when in doubt reinstall...
[11:40] <variant> J_element: with ndiswrapper?
[11:40] <J_element> i used ndiswrapper to install its windows driver
[11:40] <narzy> gawd damn it!
[11:40] <J_element> yet it didnt work
[11:40] <J_element> yes
[11:40] <danboid> whilst desktop wallpaper is being discussed, is there a wallpaper switcher for GNOME similar to KDE's?
[11:40] <variant> J_element: did you use the right driver?
[11:40] <J_element> yes
[11:40] <Frogzoo> crimsun: ah - didn't realise I needed to ifconfig as well as iwconfig - right as rain now, much thanks!
[11:41] <Toma-> narzy, what did you do to break it?
[11:41] <J_element> i got it from the dlink web
[11:41] <crimsun> Frogzoo: np
[11:41] <linuxboyfriend> !oracle
[11:41] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, linuxboyfriend
[11:41] <tharglet> crimsun, tis installing the package :)
[11:41] <variant> J_element: the the windowsXP driver on the cd
[11:41] <Toma-> narzy, openup a webbrowser and run http://localhost:631/
[11:41] <J_element> yeah
[11:41] <J_element> same one ...
[11:41] <KenzoIX> hey guy.....how can I eject the cd driver?
[11:41] <action09> hi fellows
[11:41] <narzy> toma, I deleted my cups dir
[11:41] <variant> J_element: different version
[11:41] <aztek> how do i tell which driver a piece of hardware loaded?
[11:41] <Toma-> narzy, why?
[11:41] <variant> aztek: dmesg
[11:41] <action09> KenzoIX apt-get install eject and eject /dev/hdd
[11:42] <J_element> dont think so
[11:42] <variant> J_element: it very probably is
[11:42] <narzy> cause I was trying to remove the broken packages to reinstall them
[11:42] <KenzoIX> thx man....i'll try it
[11:42] <narzy> because synaptic can't fix them, or reinstall them
[11:42] <Toma-> narzy, thats silly.
[11:42] <narzy> well I done screwed it up real good then
[11:42] <Toma-> narzy, wildly deleteing things doesnt work on linux
[11:43] <bluewater1000>  narzy: try apt-get --purge remove <packagename>
[11:43] <action09> anybody know how can i restart vino server please, it use 99% of CPU.. i can't find a link in /etc/init.d
[11:43] <action09> please
[11:43] <narzy> I've noticed toma
[11:43] <Toma-> narzy, ok.
[11:43] <narzy> but I was trying to get rid of ESP Print Pro
[11:43] <narzy> cause it wasn't working for me
[11:43] <variant> action09: ps auz | grep vino and use the pid to kill -9
[11:43] <narzy> and it said to delete XYZ to remove it
[11:44] <narzy> so I did, and now it's AFU
[11:44] <variant> action09: ps aux*
[11:44] <Toma-> !enter
[11:44] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:44] <Psykus> Toma-, I notice when I launch it from a console, it says "cfgPeteMesaGL not found" when I try to configure the video plugin
[11:44] <Toma-> Psykus, have you installed that plugin?
[11:44] <narzy> sorry, I get to the end of my text line and do it by default
[11:44] <Psykus> yes
[11:44] <pcdog> hi
[11:44] <Toma-> narzy, what exactly if ESP print pro?
[11:44] <Psykus> it shows up in the plugin list
[11:45] <narzy> http://www.easysw.com/index.php
[11:45] <pcdog> do you know what is up with seveas?
[11:45] <Toma-> pcdog, the repo?
[11:45] <aztek> how do i get my wifi card to stop using the acx driver and load the ndiswrapper?
[11:45] <Toma-> or the operator :D
[11:45] <pcdog> Toma-, the repos ;)
[11:45] <narzy> It's software ment to allow the easy administration of printers in *nix
[11:45] <danboid> is lxdvdrip in any of the breezy repositories?
[11:45] <pcdog> i will host him if he has no server ;;)
[11:45] <pcdog> *need that repo* ;)
[11:45] <crimsun> danboid: search
[11:45] <narzy> think of it as an *upgrade?* to cups.
[11:45] <Toma-> pcdog, the main server goes off and on like the sun. try using one of the mirrors
[11:46] <pcdog> ok
[11:46] <Toma-> narzy, ha.
[11:46] <pcdog> only wantet to ask if he needs new hoster ;)
[11:46] <tharglet> Toma-, I hope the sun doesn't go on and off....
[11:46] <Toma-> narzy, email them and ask them
[11:46] <narzy> craptastic
[11:46] <narzy> I'll just reinstall ubuntu
[11:46] <Ng> pcdog: randomly hosted repositories suck, there's nothing super important in there anyway
[11:46] <danboid> crimsun: according to ubuntu.packages site, no, but this is why i was asking about breezy-extras, which isn't listed as a search option on that site
[11:46] <Toma-> narzy, its Buy-ware. ive got no idea about it
[11:46] <narzy> or go back to windoze because atleast then it will work.
[11:47] <Psykus> getting an error, "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" , do I need to install a specific package to get it?
[11:47] <Toma-> narzy, cups is simple. real simple.
[11:47] <Psykus> this is when trying to use epsxe
[11:47] <narzy> this all started when I tried to use an unsupported network printer connected to Jet Direct. it's an HP Color LaserJet 1500L
[11:48] <pcdog> Ng, i know. it was only an idea :)
[11:48] <di> !avi
[11:48] <ubotu> avi is, like, Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:49] <Toma-> Psykus, right now, im running "apt-file search libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3" its returned "libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2" meaning you want that package... apt-file is a great tool ;)
[11:49] <danboid> ok, if breezy-extras doesn't exist, how well does marillat work with breezy?
[11:49] <Toma-> danboid, it doesnt.
[11:49] <Psykus> ah ok, thanks :D
[11:50] <danboid> toma: is there such a thing as breezy-extras (or a ubuntu repos. with marillat like packages)
[11:50] <Toma-> danboid, lots. PLF and seveas are a couple
[11:50] <di> help, my avis have no sound in totem (but they have sound in firefox-goolgle video)
[11:51] <Toma-> ubotu, tell danboid about plf
[11:51] <Toma-> ubotu, tell danboid about seveas
[11:51] <Seveas> Toma-, no way, I am not associated with plf at all
[11:51] <narzy> is there a guide for the "perfect" ubuntu setup?
[11:51] <Toma-> hahaha :D
[11:51] <narzy> yeah, I'm a comedian
[11:52] <narzy> oh well I needed to repartition this thing anyways
[11:52] <Toma-> Seveas, i heard u 2 danced at the school formal
[11:52] <narzy> I made the swap partition WAY too small
[11:52] <di> help, my avis have no sound in totem (but they have sound in firefox-goolgle video)
[11:52] <di> w32codecs is the newest version
[11:52] <Toma-> narzy, not larfing at u :/ well re-install and we'll see if we can get this hp 1500L working
[11:52] <Shoo-shu> hey guys, i am currently dling the new ubuntu program, i havent done this before, but i know how to use linux, i have all my programs and files on here, should i back up??? also i am currently using xp will i lose all my files if i install ubuntu or will i still be able to get my files???
[11:52] <Protocol1> my swap is like 550mb
[11:53] <Ng> Shoo-shu: you should definitely back up your stuff before you install. The installer should be able to resize your existing disk partitions so you can have xp and ubuntu installed
[11:53] <narzy> alright toma, I really appreciate it, I've been working on this issue for a few days now, and I'm starting to loose my hair...
[11:53] <elkbuntu> my swap is like 3.5 gig :P
[11:53] <narzy> and it's long stoner hair, and I like my hair...
[11:54] <narzy> drugs would kick ass right now...
[11:54] <narzy> but alas I need my brains
[11:54] <di> w32codecs is the newest version
[11:54] <di> w32codecs is the newest version
[11:54] <di> oops sorry
[11:54] <Toma-> narzy, hang tight a moment, i think im onto something
[11:54] <J_element> variant, its still not working
[11:54] <Shoo-shu> so, when i install it, i will have both on my computer and i can choose which one i want to run eveytime i turn on my laptop???
[11:54] <J_element> i got the exact version
[11:55] <narzy-> I hate being such a newb
[11:55] <narzy-> in the windows and mac world I am an OS gawd
[11:55] <narzy-> but in linux, I'm a puppy with it's tail 'tween it's legs
[11:55] <Toma-> narzy, linux world = the real world ;D
[11:55] <narzy> sorry bout the <enter> thing again....
[11:56] <narzy> I know, I've been living under a rock...
[11:57] <Toma-> narzy, http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=HP
[11:57] <di> help, my avis have no sound
[11:57] <Toma-> is your printer somewhere there? or is it a brand spanking new one?
[11:57] <Toma-> di, tried totem-xine?
[11:57] <di> trying now
[11:58] <di> totem-xine is already the newest version.
[11:58] <Toma-> ok
[11:58] <Toma-> tried mplayer?
[11:58] <Toma-> wait a sec
[11:58] <di> Toma- yes
[11:58] <Toma-> di, run "file filename.avi"
[11:58] <di> Toma- w32codecs too
[11:58] <hondadarrell_> can anyone tell me how to navigate to the desktop using root terminal?
[11:59] <di> ../SupermanVersustheGia.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI
[11:59] <Toma-> hmmm
[11:59] <Ng> hondadarrell_: if you mean your desktop, /home/yourusername/Desktop/
[11:59] <Tatey> hondadarrell_: /home/<your username>/Desktop
[11:59] <hondadarrell_> but whats the command in root terminal?
[12:00] <Tatey> cd
[12:00] <Toma-> cd ~/Desktop
[12:00] <di> SupermanVersustheGia.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI
[12:00] <di> ya
[12:01] <Toma-> di, still thinking
[12:01] <Toma-> try mplayer
[12:01] <di> tried
[12:01] <Toma-> no luck?
[12:01] <Tatey> Actually, I have a question of my own. I can't seem to find any information about it anywhere. With the Gnome Panel and Window list, is it possible to fix the size of each button rather than expand all the way across the window list?
[12:01] <narzy> on the up side, I'm learning more about printers then I ever really wanted to know
[12:02] <Toma-> narzy, lol :D
[12:02] <narzy> tatey, I have no clue what your talking about so I don't think I could help you :(
[12:02] <di> Toma-: yes, lots of it.
[12:02] <narzy> Toma-, I'm sad now...
[12:02] <di> Toma-: i closed google video
[12:02] <di> and tada!
[12:02] <tharglet> *sigh* Under Windows u can spend 1/2 hour fiddling and u either fix it or u can't. In Linux it can be a lot longer and u still don't reach a conclusion
[12:03] <narzy> ewww, my CD is half way done!
[12:03] <di> it was blocking the soundcard
[12:03] <di> how do i stop it from doing that?
[12:03] <narzy> I'm gonna go smoke
[12:03] <Toma-> di, thats kinda tricky.
[12:03] <Hobbsee> tharglet: i dont see your question - what was it?
[12:03] <Ng> tharglet: well you won't reach a conclusion if you just complain and don't ask us to help ;)
[12:04] <Fable> is there an apt-get for nvidia drivers
[12:04] <Toma-> di, it involves aoss, dmix and a alot of patience.
[12:04] <tharglet> lol, sorry, wasn't meant to be offensive. I'm just gettting mighty bored of watching a large program make :D
[12:04] <Ng> !tell Fable about nvidia
[12:04] <Toma-> brb
[12:04] <Ng> tharglet: what are you compiling?
[12:04] <action09> variant  yes i'm dumb :( thx anyway :)
[12:04] <action09> variant it's ok
[12:05] <di> Toma-: i've never heard of those things.
[12:05] <tharglet> Ng - Globus
[12:06] <Tatey> narzy-brb: Basically, I come from a KDE background, and I've never been happy with the behaviour of the window list in Gnome Panel. I'd like to know if it's possible to make it behave more like KDE or Windows in the fact that the buttons are fixed rather than variable
[12:06] <Hobbsee> tharglet: try compiling the entire koffice, if you get bored :P  what are you making?
[12:06] <tharglet> Hobbsee, grid software, called Globus
[12:07] <scav> anyone know a good tool to administer users to see what processes they are running etc?
[12:07] <Hobbsee> tharglet: ah ok, i missed that
[12:07] <Ng> tharglet: so pretty specialised stuff
[12:07] <Hobbsee> scav: top?
[12:07] <theine> tharglet: is that actually available for Windows?
[12:07] <scav> Hobbsee: there are others that can administer more in details
[12:08] <scav> as far as i know
[12:08] <heyjoe> This is the very first time I've used any linux distributions at all so I was wondering if someone could give me a newbie friendly explanation as to how to get ubuntu to recognize my lg flatron L1510S monitor.
[12:08] <tharglet> Ng - Yeah, kinda, but at this stage I'm only gonna be running a demo... but it's taking forever to sort it
[12:08] <delmar> ffs. Grub loading stage1.5 - Grub loading, please wait.... Error 15.
[12:08] <Hobbsee> scav: ah ok, i'm not sure
[12:08] <delmar> why the hell wont this slutty thing install.
[12:08] <CarinArr> o.O
[12:08] <tharglet> theine, Umm, not sure if there is a windows version, but I talked to some ppl about it n they said the ver. I'm installing is the bestfor me
[12:09] <drezha> any idea how to close X server so I can install these nVidia drivers so Ubuntu 64 will allow me to use 1280x1024 res?
[12:09] <heyjoe> screen "out of range".
[12:09] <Fable> is there a reason y i can search using google and get the resaults and not be able to goto ubuntuforums.org
[12:09] <Ng> tharglet: oh well. I'm not really sure why grid computing needs to be easy to set up - the kind of people who will be using it will be specialists not afraid of a bit of compiling
[12:09] <heyjoe> is the error message i get
[12:09] <Toma-> drezha, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then "killall X"
[12:09] <Toma-> should bring it too its knees
[12:09] <Toma-> -o
[12:09] <tharglet> Ng - no such thing as making things easy for oneself then :P
[12:10] <drezha> cheers. Will that drop me into a termianl?
[12:10] <delmar> Anyone know why I can't install latest ubuntu to a 200g sata?  Trust me.
[12:10] <delmar> snowblink :P
[12:10] <di> thanks Toma-
[12:10] <di> lol
[12:11] <Toma-> di, np.
[12:11] <ompaul> delmar, lets do this again, bad language warning
[12:11] <twa1296> how do i find out which xorg version i'm running?
[12:11] <delmar> ompaul, oh for pete sakes. I saw it twice, YOU can butt out.
[12:11] <Toma-> twa1296, X -version
[12:11] <ompaul> delmar, ehh no, we don't tolerate it, rather simple
[12:12] <delmar> ompaul, right. and if I hadn't got the message there would be colors, so dry up.
[12:12] <Ng> crimsun: globus appears to provide tools for packaging and distributing grid applications
[12:12] <twa1296> Toma, thanks
[12:12] <Toma-> delmar, #ubuntu+1 for dapper support.... if thats what you mean by "latest"
[12:13] <Toma-> twa1296, np
[12:13] <crimsun> Ng: among other things, yes.
[12:13] <crimsun> Ng: both a toolkit and an API
[12:13] <tharglet> crimsun, Yeah... I was/am considering doing something with grid... at least my installing seems to be behaving now
[12:13] <delmar> thanks Toma-, im new to ubuntu, its breezy I believe.
[12:13] <delmar> so not latest desting/unstable or whatever flavor.
[12:14] <Toma-> rightio
[12:14] <delmar> im just trying to get my install to fire up. ive tried 3 times, manually partitioned it this time with a 50mb /boot and so on...and the final stage of the install did the grub hd0 thing.. rebooted... then pow... I just get this message...
[12:14] <delmar> Grub loading stage1.5 - Grub loading, please wait.... Error 15.
[12:14] <tharglet> One day prehaps I'll unlazy and make my system dual boot instead of VMWaring it...
[12:14] <Toma-> delmar, id say grub is setting up your harddrive in the wrong order
[12:15] <delmar> Toma-, i let it do auto and it didnt work either.. manually.. still no good.
[12:15] <delmar> <---- very grumpy
[12:16] <tharglet> I miss progress bars :(
[12:16] <ompaul> delmar, is it getting the whole way through the install or just not talking to it at all?
[12:16] <Toma-> delmar, guess what.... your /boot decision was a bad one...
[12:17] <delmar> ompaul, yeah the install goes great.... its the reboot.
[12:17] <delmar> Toma-, ok.. well i had to try it.
[12:17] <Toma-> or your grub config isnt seeing the /boot
[12:17] <Toma-> only gentoo'ers use /boot, imho :D
[12:17] <delmar> Toma-, actually it worked better.. like.. it automatically did something with Grub and HD0 and didnt ask me anything.. whereas .. previus attempts.. I got a page asking me where to put the MBR and stuff...
[12:17] <ompaul> delmar, seen that once or twice, suggest you have a look at these wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[12:18] <action09> KenzoIX did eject worked ?
[12:18] <Toma-> delmar, basically, error 15 means your kernel isnt found. meaning grubs looking in the wrong spot
[12:18] <heyjoe1> can anyone help me with configuring an lg monitor for ubuntu?
[12:18] <delmar> Toma-, ok
[12:18] <Ng> Toma-: eh?
[12:18] <Ng> Toma-: I always use a /boot/
[12:18] <ompaul> delmar, I am an advocate of the two step install, but that will be obvious
[12:19] <Toma-> Ng, and you have an SATA drive?
[12:19] <Ng> Toma-: SATA, PATA, SCSI, hardware RAID, whatever. I always do it
[12:19] <delmar> ompaul, ok ill try auto again.. see if maybe the first time was something wierd going on.
[12:19] <Toma-> Ng, well help delmar then :)
[12:19] <Ng> Toma-: it's one of the easiest ways to make sure you can boot
[12:19] <ompaul> delmar, na I would two step it do a "server" only and then onwards
[12:20] <delmar> the trouble is, i dont really wanna let it do everything auto, because i need to setup the partitions to alow a winxp boot for my games. (cedega sux bad).
[12:20] <delmar> server only u reckon?
[12:20] <Toma-> delmar, dual-booting is easy as pie to setup while in ubuntu.
[12:20] <Toma-> just let grub to its work automagically
[12:21] <delmar> Toma-, yeah but it will allocate the drive all messed up :(
[12:21] <ompaul> so install windows on the drive first (may I be forgiven for writing that word) and then do a server and then sit a desktop on it seems to sort out some issues
[12:21] <ompaul> delmar, ^^^
[12:21] <hatake_kakashi> which is why installing windows first is better because it would be a bit of a pain later on to setup GRUB/LILO to boot either one of thsoe
[12:21] <hatake_kakashi> s/thsoe/those
[12:21] <nornagon> Argh.
[12:21] <nornagon> Installing breezy on a laptop (http://tinyurl.com/qfbo4)
[12:21] <Toma-> *sigh*
[12:21] <nornagon> install looks *great*
[12:22] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, cos it kills grub if it goes on last
[12:22] <nornagon> but then when I boot
[12:22] <nornagon> the kernel OOPSes
[12:22] <delmar> ok. mega tired here.. not slept in over 20hrs... ill try some stuff here again but i should probably get to bed.
[12:22] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, so if you have a choice that should be it
[12:22] <DJ_tobias> would anybody know why when i disable my onboard video and plugin my nvidia pci card my wireless connection just WONT connect ?
[12:22] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: that's correct, or you can do away with dd, etc :)
[12:22] <redblade> Hi
[12:22] <nornagon> Process modprobe (pid: 4383, threadinfo=...)
[12:22] <redblade> What is the mysql called in the repos?
[12:22] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: disabling onboard video = BIOS settings, not OS issue
[12:22] <nornagon> then proceeds to give stack dump and call trace
[12:22] <Toma-> nornagon, tried booting in recovery mode?
[12:22] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, if your talking to someone who is having problems with an install dd is most likely not their friend as they will not be in a position to execute it
[12:23] <hatake_kakashi> redblade: apt-cache search sql
[12:23] <morphix> fkn
[12:23] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: heh
[12:23] <redblade> thank ye
[12:23] <nornagon> Toma-: nope... it hasn't even booted normally once :(
[12:23] <redblade> lol
[12:23] <heyjoe1> i get an error message that says "screen out of range" when trying to run linux, which does not occur in win2000. anyone know what this is about or how to solve it?
[12:23] <morphix> anyone here tried to install SlimDevices SlimServer ?
[12:23] <Toma-> nornagon, ok. can you get to grub?
[12:23] <nornagon> Toma-: btw, this is a serve rinstall
[12:23] <nornagon> Toma-: sure
[12:23] <hatake_kakashi> heyjoe1: at CD/DVD boot?
[12:23] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi i know that but.. why is it that when my pci card is in, ndiswrapper/wlan0 wont connect ?
[12:23] <theine> redblade: there are mysql-client and mysql-server
[12:23] <nornagon> (also, at the end of the call trace i get <3>hw_random: RNG not detected)
[12:23] <Toma-> nornagon, there should be a recovery mode boot option in grub
[12:23] <redblade> k
[12:24] <Emperor> heyjoe1, seems that your resolution is to hight in linux. When you are fully booted, try ctrl+alt+backspace so you have a console to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf with vi
[12:24] <delmar> Yeah its allocated like.. all but 3.1gigs to / and the 3.1 to swap. :(
[12:24] <Toma-> nornagon, itll probably say a bunch of stuff about loading, but write down/copy the error that it fails on
[12:24] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: it could be shared IRQ, check motherboard manual + lspci
[12:24] <Toma-> delmar, thats the disk partitioner, not grub.
[12:25] <nornagon> Toma-: okay...
[12:25] <delmar> sure.. but lets see if grub bombs again
[12:25] <nornagon> ah
[12:25] <nornagon> it says missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random
[12:25] <nornagon> and then sits there
[12:25] <delmar> if grub is happy.. great.. but now my partitioning is lame.
[12:25] <Toma-> hmm
[12:25] <nornagon> it oopses
[12:25] <nornagon> too
[12:25] <nornagon> same as before
[12:25] <nornagon> but with more info
[12:25] <Toma-> delmar, partitioning has nothing to do with grub
[12:25] <nornagon> hm
[12:26] <Toma-> !enter
[12:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:26] <delmar> dude i know this
[12:26] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi in lspci it doesnt look like a shared irq
[12:26] <nornagon> "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000"
[12:26] <nornagon> printing eip: f8b0b5b1
[12:26] <nornagon> *pde = 00000000
[12:26] <Toma-> ahhh i gotta go
[12:26] <ompaul>  nornagon don't paste large pieces of text here - use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:26] <nornagon> Oops: 0002 [#1]
[12:26] <Toma-> sorry
[12:26] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: it won't show up if its a shared IRQ conflict, all it does is it shows what hardware has it detected on PCI slots
[12:26] <nornagon> Toma-: :(
[12:26] <delmar> I have also tried manually making a 10gig 1st partition... plus a swap... goes fine..reboot.. grub fails.
[12:26] <Toma-> :/
[12:27] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi so if they both show up in lspci then thats not the problem?
[12:27] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: do you have more than one hard disk?
[12:27] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: generally, yes
[12:27] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi what else could be the problem?
[12:27] <ompaul> delmar, sleep 8 hours and give it a shot in the am with the method I suggested, we will most likely still be here in the morning :0
[12:27] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, uh. bugger.
[12:27] <delmar> ompaul, hatake_kakashi just hit it on the head
[12:27] <nornagon> hm
[12:28] <nornagon> just before the null pointer dereference error
[12:28] <ompaul> delmar, tell me your drives are not on cable select
[12:28] <nornagon> it says:
[12:28] <ompaul> nornagon, use pastebin
[12:28] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: again, you may need to consult with the motherboard manual + those PCI cards that are conlicting manuals?
[12:28] <delmar> grub is installing mbr info on another drive.. there is a spare IDE disk with data on it.
[12:28] <delmar> thats gotta be it
[12:28] <delmar> surely
[12:28] <nornagon> hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC880, trying to auto-probe from BIOS...
[12:28] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi dont have the motherboard manual
[12:28] <nornagon> ompaul: just typing it out from the other screen....
[12:28] <jose> e
[12:28] <jose> Hola
[12:28] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi if i put the card in a different pci slot would that help?
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: I had a fair bit of problem with GRUB being installed on other hard disks, my solution was to plug either one of the two cables attached to the other hard disk. Preferably the data cable.
[12:29] <ompaul> nornagon, type it all in one go on paste.ubuntu-nl.org then the whole problem can be seen in one go
[12:29] <nornagon> ompaul: hm, i guess
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: possibly, you may be able to get your motherboard manual online, go look for your motherboard's manufacturer's website and they should provide you one unless if yours is really outdated
[12:30] <ompaul> delmar, and don't use cable select, I can't count the times I have seen that as a problem
[12:30] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, i will try again now with nothing but the destination drive plugged into the system
[12:30] <delmar> ompaul, yeah bugger that. i never use it.
[12:30] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi if i did get the manual, what would i be looking for?
[12:30] <ompaul> delmar, do youseld a big favour, sleep, and to it in the morning
[12:30] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: the issue is not just about cable selecting, I have 3 hard disks and installing ubuntu/kubuntu proved nothing but pain until I removed excessive hard disks
[12:30] <nornagon> ah, there's stuff on google it appears...
[12:30] <delmar> ok.. im going to try a manual partition again tho because thats what I need it to do.. last time tho.. then sleep for me.
[12:31] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: that should generally work, I don't see why not now :)
[12:31] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, I run dedicated to linux boxes only - be it one or four drives :)
[12:31] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: the motherboard manual will show you a table of which PCI IRQ slots are shared
[12:31] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, its gonna ask me where to put the mbr tho.... i can just say.. hd0 ?
[12:31] <Healot> huh, after some time spending with my Windows modem log, now i figured out the AT commands need for my GPRS cell
[12:32] <ompaul> delmar, the first drive that the bios sees is where it should be]
[12:32] <ompaul> delmar, cdroms being an exception :)
[12:32] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: so do I on this box, however, I had two other hard disks full of data but no OS. Whenever I tried installing ubuntu/kubuntu (Hoary) it always go GRUB error until I unplugged extra hard disks, that solved the problem instantly
[12:32] <morphix> expat.h
[12:32] <morphix> eh?
[12:32] <morphix> wtf is that
[12:32] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, ooch
[12:32] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: if there is only one hard disk, it will only put it there, it won't put it anywhere else
[12:32] <ompaul> morphix, why do you use the enter key, in the place of a comma, I wonder?
[12:33] <morphix> sorry sorry
[12:33] <hatake_kakashi> morphix: most likely a header file, part of C language? expat.h? maybe you are trying to compile something?
[12:33] <tharglet> morphix, A header file... Possibly for expatriots? (ie I have no clue what it is for)
[12:33] <morphix> yes trying to compile something.. but it cant find that file
[12:33] <morphix> and exits
[12:34] <ompaul> Expat is a library, written in C, for parsing XML documents.
[12:34] <hatake_kakashi> morphix: consult if the INSTALL file or any other docs upon extracting the whole archive
[12:34] <hatake_kakashi> s/if/with
[12:34] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[12:35] <Healot> morphix, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ << figure out the library needed for that compilation
[12:35] <morphix> libexpat1-dev, i'll install that.. see if that fixes it
[12:35] <hatake_kakashi> !info libexpat1-dev
[12:35] <ubotu> libexpat1-dev: (XML parsing C library - development kit), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.95.8-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 424 kB
[12:35] <ompaul> its in main
[12:37] <morphix> that seemed to have fixed it
[12:37] <hatake_kakashi> morphix: be prepared for more as they come out of 'make' :)
[12:37] <tharglet> Hmm, I want my processor >2.4GHz.... this build taking toooo long
[12:38] <Healot> great job, morphix
[12:38] <tharglet> hatake_kakashi, lol, that's already happened to me in making something this morning
[12:38] <morphix> it all finished and make install worked
[12:38] <hatake_kakashi> tharglet: building what?
[12:38] <morphix> just wasnt sure what package expat.h was from
[12:38] <redblade> I'm trying to mount a CD in cdrom0
[12:38] <hatake_kakashi> tharglet: more or less the same thing with me awhile ago for mplayer :)
[12:38] <tharglet> hatake_kakashi, the various bits I need for globus (grid)
[12:38] <redblade> but it says something about block
[12:38] <hatake_kakashi> tharglet: globus, hmm never heard of it but sounds somewhat interesting
[12:39] <delmar> ok... gona type a little about what im doing... entered partition disks screen... deleted partitions on the drive.. recreated a 10gig primary on / set bootable flag on. created 10gig primary partition, set fat32 (will let windows format it ntfs later) ..set mount point to none. ditto for another 30gig volume. created 146.9gb for /home.. created 3.1gb for swap....
[12:39] <delmar> think i got it all covered...
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> redblade: paste the full output of the error, if its more than 2 lines paste it at pastebin's site
[12:39] <babo> Hi guys, I'm having crontab woes. I want cron to execute a script that I've written in one of my dirs. I want the script to be able to read some files that are in the same dir. But unfortunately cron applies all references and paths to cron's directory. I want to be able to move the script around so I don't want to use a root path. Is there anyway to get cron to run from a certain directory for one command ?
[12:39] <tharglet> hatake_kakashi, What I'm going to use this install for will be very unintersting :D
[12:39] <redblade> mount: /media/cdrom1 is not a block device
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> tharglet: ahh heh
[12:40] <Healot> is it a good idea to build Firefox 1.5 from official mozilla source... and depackage it?
[12:40] <theine> tharglet: are you sure that mpi, openmp, or openmosix won't fit your needs?
[12:40] <delmar> kind wish i didnt need that 30gig partition but i need somewhere that is read/writeable to both ubuntu and windowsXP.
[12:40] <Hobbsee> Healot: see !firefox1.5
[12:40] <hatake_kakashi> redblade: cat /etc/fstab| grep cdrom
[12:40] <tharglet> theine, ???
[12:40] <Ng> Healot: it's easier to just use the official ff1.5 binaries
[12:40] <Hobbsee> Healot: if you havent already
[12:40] <diogo> Greetings! How do I know if my sources.list file is ok? In Debian I could just remove it and re-create it with apt-setup, but how can I do that in Ubuntu?
[12:40] <snowblink> babo, cd
[12:40] <Ng> delmar: be aware that writing to ntfs is not a good idea in ubuntu
[12:40] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: EXT2/3 should do the trick :)
[12:40] <babo> can I cd cron ?
[12:40] <Healot> i mean on a 64bit port?
[12:40] <babo> snowblink: can I cd cron ?
[12:40] <snowblink> babo, your first command in the cronjob. cd
[12:41] <delmar> Ng, hence the 30gig communcal partition that will be YUK fat32
[12:41] <delmar> communal*
[12:41] <babo> snowblink: cheers :)
[12:41] <redblade> hatake_kakashi, umount: it seems /dev/hdd is mounted multiple times
[12:41] <theine> tharglet: what applications do you have in mind with globus?
[12:41] <redblade> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[12:41] <delmar> meh. partition they can both write/read to/from
[12:41] <Healot> well, the 32bit us fine... got some issues with 64bit...
[12:41] <redblade> I can't get the CD out!!!
[12:41] <Healot> !firefox1.5
[12:41] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:41] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: eww. with 4GB single filesize limit.. heh suit yourself :)
[12:41] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, yeah ext3 for ubuntu, ntfs for XP, and fat32 in the middle.
[12:41] <tharglet> nooooo a build just failed :(... possibly quite badl
[12:41] <tharglet> *badly
[12:42] <heyjoe1> sorry that ive already asked this question before, but im a newbie trying to configure my lg monitor to ubuntu. i get an error message that says "out of range" please save me from microsoft
[12:42] <narzy-> you have to be kidding me! not the stuck install BS again!
[12:42] <redblade> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:42] <redblade> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:42] <narzy-> the bad news just keeps comming!
[12:42] <babo> snowblink: one more question ... this should output to stdout right ?  37 0 * * * ./posting_script work >1
[12:42] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, i have no choice... WindowsXP is hopeless and wont read ext3, xfs, reiserfs or anything decent... let alone write to it... and Linux wont write to ntfs unless you want a busted ntfs file system
[12:42] <delmar> so im stuck :P
[12:42] <hatake_kakashi> redblade: no no, that's the output for how many cdroms and their mount points.
[12:42] <delmar> unless someone has another idea?
[12:43] <Ng> Healot: I came across a thread on ubuntuforums yesterday about using the linux32 package to run the 32bit ff1.5 binaries. seems to work pretty well and lets you use plugins and stuff
[12:43] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: I beg to differ... try fs-driver.org or something, there is module for XP to read EXT2 :)
[12:43] <theine> tharglet: what's the error message?
[12:43] <redblade> hatake_kakashi, I can't get the CD out!
[12:43] <redblade> I need help!!!
[12:43] <tharglet> theine, client.c:233: error: incompatible type for argument 2 of connect - ie code error
[12:43] <delmar> hatake_kakashi and write.. reliably?
[12:43] <hatake_kakashi> redblade: try eject /dev/hdd as root.. so it would be 'sudo eject /dev/hdd'
[12:43] <snowblink> babo, that outputs to a file named 1.
[12:43] <Healot> i love to make it native, no chroot...
[12:44] <delmar> I need a volume that can be written to by both.
[12:44] <Healot> well as I said, i really have no problem with the 32bit
[12:44] <redblade> YAY!
[12:44] <redblade> got it!
[12:44] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: well, probably better than what windows can write with their NTFS natively :) if I'm mistaken, I will know that later because I'm planning to migrate large amounts of data from NTFS to EXT3 :)
[12:45] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, i WAS going to move all my movies and such to ext3, perhaps LVM and fun stuff... but...
[12:45] <redblade> Okay, I'm trying to get a LAMP serevr up and running.
[12:45] <diogo> Help! aptitude search j2re shows j2re1.4 as a virtual package (v) but aptitude install j2re1.4 says theres no candidate!
[12:45] <tharglet> ah, g2g
[12:45] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, i decided cedega sucked and im gonna keep a windows boot anyway....
[12:45] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: ahh you have LVM and such.. heh I don't have that sort of setup just yet.. I'm hanging those data tight until I can afford expensive setup
[12:45] <redblade> Which MySQL package will I need?
[12:45] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, if winXP can read/write to ext2 that might do, but ext3 would be just to awesome
[12:46] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, no i dont have LVM yet.. was considering it if I converted away from ntfs on all my drives
[12:46] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: well, with that extra driver, you can write to EXT3 however it just does not do up the journalling part
[12:46] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: ahh
[12:46] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, sounds dangerous....
[12:46] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, not sure i want microsoft anywhere near my ext3 partitions :P
[12:47] <benievlatlikal> hi people what country is this server belong to ?
[12:47] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, so what happens when linux boots up and finds some rogue piece of filth has been writing data to the volume and there is no journal entry?
[12:47] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: well, I'd probably be willing to give it a shot. Seeing as how I don't trust NTFS in anyway shape or form. FAT32 has large single filesize limitations so that is another no-no for me
[12:47] <benievlatlikal> can anyone tell me that
[12:47] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[12:48] <delmar> wouldn't it try to "repair" it?
[12:48] <ompaul> benievlatlikal, all over the world
[12:48] <ompaul> benievlatlikal, many servers
[12:48] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, what do u have that i larger than 4gig? database?
[12:48] <JohnFlux> does ubuntu watch mii-tool to see when the link changes, then restart dhclient?
[12:48] <benievlatlikal> next came u where are you from ?
[12:48] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: well, that's what I'd probably be looking into to find out, however if I'm in windows most of the time, I'd probably have data later transferred onto linux partitions when I get back onto linux :)
[12:49] <JohnFlux> where can I file a wish for this?
[12:49] <ompaul> benievlatlikal, that has nothing to do with help on Ubuntu, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[12:49] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: large images ;) I mean really large. Plus I have this pdb thing as well
[12:49] <babo> snowblink: ok ... I give up ... it gets automatically redirected to stdout right  ?
[12:50] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: I usually like to keep DVD sized images on my hard disks :)
[12:50] <diogo> Ive just tried another mirror, but still no j2re1.4 available...
[12:50] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: its under multiverse
[12:50] <Healot> it's compiling well, no missing libs etc... all I have to do is wait right? should i overwrite the prior firefox installation?
[12:50] <Ng> diogo: the RestrictedFormats wiki page covers installing Sun's Java 1.5 which is a much better plan generally
[12:50] <morphix> hmm
[12:50] <Healot> the firefox 1.5
[12:51] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, yep. in that case.. 4gig limit is just shy... pain in the butt.
[12:51] <morphix> i need to stop asking Q's which i can google for
[12:51] <Healot> yeah, morphix :)
[12:51] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: shouldnt 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse' in my sources.list do it?
[12:51] <heyjoe1> can someone please help me. sorry that ive already asked this question before, but im a newbie trying to configure my lg monitor to ubuntu. i get an error message that says "out of range" please save me from microsoft
[12:51] <morphix> but u ppl seem to answer it better than google
[12:51] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: more or less an eyesore for me, but if it suits you, that's fine by me as well
[12:51] <morphix> lol
[12:51] <diogo> Ng: Ive tried that also, but theres also no 'java-package' available... :'(
[12:51] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: hmm not too sure about breezy-backports
[12:51] <Ng> diogo: it's in multiverse
[12:52] <Ng> !tell diogo about repositories
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> morphix: because we are humans :P
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> except for a few bots here and there :p
[12:52] <Ng> diogo: it does say on the page to enable the other repositories :)
[12:52] <Healot> morphix, google is machine, we are real humans?
[12:52] <Healot> or maybe not, I am a dog haha
[12:52] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, speak for yourself people keep saying I am a bot! :-)
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: heh
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> !bot
[12:52] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> :)
[12:52] <ompaul> ohh so it is not me then
[12:53] <diogo> Ng: I know, Ive uncommented every repository entry in my sources.list, but still no luck...
[12:53] <ompaul> lets get back on topic
[12:53] <benievlatlikal> ompaul where are you from
[12:53] <snowblink> babo, if it's a cronjob, stdout should get mailed to whoever's crontab that is
[12:53] <benievlatlikal> ompaul where are you from ??
[12:53] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: yup
[12:53] <morphix> well.. i will say my Q in here... how do i (quote) "restore SQL/mysql/dbcreate.sql file into your database" for mysql ??
[12:53] <ompaul> benievlatlikal, if you want to chat please move to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:53] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: Do you mean I should change breezy-backports into breezy?
[12:53] <benievlatlikal> y ?
[12:53] <benievlatlikal> what is this channel for ?
[12:53] <ompaul> benievlatlikal,  >>>/join #ubuntu-offtopic<<< do that
[12:53] <hatake_kakashi> morphix: you might want to try #mysql ,because I'm sure they know what they are talking about :D
[12:54] <Healot> why the hell 64bit linux doesn't have WOW-like environment installed by default
[12:54] <morphix> oh, never knew they had a channel on freenode
[12:54] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: not suggesting that, though you might want to try, because I never tried breezy-backports yet
[12:54] <morphix> darn freenode.. got everything
[12:54] <hatake_kakashi> morphix: almost :)
[12:54] <Ng> diogo: and have you edited them to add multiverse?
[12:54] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, looking on that site now. awesome dude. i have an alternative to fat32 :P
[12:54] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: That entry came by default on my installation...
[12:54] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, thanks alot
[12:54] <Ng> diogo: please read the addingrepositories page ubotu sent you, it really does explain how to do this
[12:54] <Healot> chroot is so much pain
[12:54] <hatake_kakashi> !info j2re1.4
[12:54] <ubotu> j2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB
[12:54] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: np
[12:55] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: hmm.. I presume you must be on Dapper?
[12:55] <delmar> here goes.. again
[12:55] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi that didnt help
[12:56] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: No, fresh breezy install
[12:56] <Healot> hey would it be better you install make-jpkg and package the Sun's JRE instead?
[12:56] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: so you have tried a couple of different PCI slots and yet it still fails to detect?
[12:56] <diogo> Ng: I'll check that, thanks!
[12:56] <Ng> Healot: yes
[12:56] <delmar> omfg it boots
[12:56] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: odd, but I'm not too sure, I'm on breezy but upgraded from hoary
[12:56] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, it musta been that IDE disk I had plugged in.
[12:56] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: the extra IDE hard disk(s) more or less :)
[12:57] <delmar> oh u are not gonna believe this...this happened to me earlier....
[12:57] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: Im using the Brazilian repositories (br.) cause Im in Brazil, Im not sure if that could be the problem...
[12:57] <delmar> I have a box running debian sid... and I decided to try out the pre-packaged kernel 2.6.1-1...
[12:57] <delmar> so I booted up.. and found I had eth0 and eth1 but no networking.. nothing would ping....
[12:57] <gnomefreak> diogo: try taking the br. out of the repos and updating see if it fixes it (i havent seen the full issue)
[12:58] <DJ_tobias> hatake_kakashi i really have no clue whats going on :( when i use onboard video, i can use ndiswrapper/get online fine...but when i disable onboard video and put in my nvidia pci card.... cant connect
[12:58] <delmar> someone since told me that it might have been the 1394 driver.. bringing up a couple of those and my eth0 and eth1 were in fact 1394's lol.
[12:58] <delmar> anyway...
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: if the hw are detected, it probably needs reconfiguration :)
[12:58] <delmar> no networking...
[12:58] <Healot> delmar, you haven't configure them yet in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: hmm not sure
[12:58] <delmar> Healot, sure.. they were configured...
[12:58] <delmar> I had eth0 and eth1 up as normal... but get this...
[12:58] <Healot> i mean reconfgure?
[12:59] <delmar> if I SOFT rebooted back to kernel 2.6.14 .. which runs mint... custom compiled... same problem...
[12:59] <delmar> eth0 and eth1 are there.. but nothing pings... nothing works...
[12:59] <delmar> if I hard-reset and power off... then load 2.6.14... all fixed
[12:59] <delmar> so basically if I go near 2.6.15-1.. im screwed and have to power down to clear the problem
[12:59] <hatake_kakashi> DJ_tobias: what about the manual? you might want to try reading to see if you can find out which is shared. That problem is kinda odd, but because your video card is PCI, and so is your wireless card, its definetly an IRQ conflict
[12:59] <delmar> now how bizare is that.
[01:00] <funkyHat> intel 32bit is little endian right?
[01:00] <Healot> 2.6.1-1 is older than 2.6.14,,,
[01:00] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: heh, its all about learning, patience and persistence. I have switched between many vanilla kernels when I was on RH8 :)
[01:00] <delmar> Healot, i run 2.6.14 now.. was trying 2.6.15-1
[01:00] <Healot> funkyHat, I think so...
[01:01] <Healot> you missed the "5"
[01:01] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, never have I seen a kernel issue cause a hardware problem like that... such that I had to power off.
[01:01] <ompaul> http://www.cs.umass.edu/~verts/cs32/endian.html funkyHat your right
[01:01] <funkyHat> Thanks :)
[01:01] <hatake_kakashi> delmar: the hw was not detected under lspci? what about dmesg?
[01:01] <delmar> Healot, yep so i did
[01:02] <ompaul> delmar, you will never know, but I wonder if a second soft reboot of the box would have worked
[01:02] <delmar> hatake_kakashi, hardware was there and just fine.... I didn't look into it too deeply... as I say.. someone said something about the 1394 drifver being the cause.. and to blacklist it
[01:02] <delmar> ompaul, yeah :P
[01:02] <morphix> told u no other channel is as much help as here
[01:02] <hatake_kakashi> ahh that lol, I had similar case with my AWE32 driver being blacklisted as well
[01:03] <hatake_kakashi> morphix: well, I'm clueless with mysql let alone sql
[01:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hei? someone can tell me what's the you have mail message when i log in the console?
[01:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i just need a reference to search on google
[01:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[01:04] <diogo> gnomefreak: Ok, I've taken the br. out of the URLs, updated, but still says j2re1.4 has no candidate... :'(
[01:04] <delmar> speaking of that debian box... i have a cheap little ATI pci-E card for that box.... I know the deal with nvidia drivers and such to get xorg all happy.. whats needed for ATI?
[01:04] <hatake_kakashi> Tallia1Kubuntu: if its 'You have mail' it just shows that there is still data in your /var/spool/mail/`whoami`
[01:04] <gnomefreak> diogo: do you have multiverse enabled?
[01:04] <diogo> gnomefreak: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:04] <diogo> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:04] <hatake_kakashi> gnomefreak: he does, but the paste shows the repo is for breezy-backport
[01:05] <gnomefreak> diogo: also for blackdown you want to get it from synaptic not apt
[01:05] <Ng> diogo: you need to have multiverse enabled for each of the entries
[01:05] <Ng> not just backports
[01:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell diogo about multiverse
[01:05] <diogo> Ng: So I have to yank-yank and paste every repository entry and add "multiverse" in the end (more or less)?
[01:06] <liable> gnomefreak: whats the difference?
[01:06] <morphix> how on earth do i "run a sql along side a database"
[01:06] <Ng> diogo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 just copy that
[01:06] <heyjoe1> is there any irc channel for ubuntu newbies?
[01:06] <diogo> Hmmm, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 shows it all! :oD
[01:06] <nm> heyjoel: you're in it
[01:07] <gnomefreak> liable: of what?
[01:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i just need a reference to search on google
[01:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hei? someone can tell me what's the you have mail message when i log in the console?
[01:07] <delmar> ok. very cool. ubuntu all installed. sleep time.
[01:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> please.... :)
[01:07] <liable> apt and synaptic
[01:07] <delmar> thanks for the help u lot.
[01:07] <gnomefreak> liable: because synaptic has the real name for it
[01:07] <heyjoe1> ok, just checking that people whether ppl were ignoring my requests because i was in the wrong channel
[01:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ??
[01:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone knows what's that message? i am sure you do...
[01:08] <hatake_kakashi> Tallia1Kubuntu: I've already told you
[01:08] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 btw there is no package named that
[01:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[01:08] <Ng> gnomefreak: yes there is
[01:08] <Ng> Filename: pool/multiverse/j/j2se1.4-i586/j2re1.4_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[01:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oooooo :)
[01:09] <hatake_kakashi> 22:05:14 < hatake_kakashi> Tallia1Kubuntu: if its 'You have mail' it just shows that there is still data in your /var/spool/mail/`whoami`
[01:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hatake_kakashi: who manage that space?
[01:09] <diogo> Ng: I can't believe the sources.list from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 is NOT the default! :o)
[01:09] <Healot> j2re1.4 >> it does
[01:09] <Healot> in multiverse
[01:09] <diogo> Ng: Despite the typographical error in "pacakges", of course! ;o)
[01:09] <hatake_kakashi> Tallia1Kubuntu: that I'm not sure about, I also personally do not think its a big deal, if you want to, you can just delete the file and remake another null one
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Ng: i thought the name was blackdown-j2re1.4
[01:09] <Ng> diogo: there are reasons, unfortunately
[01:09] <hatake_kakashi> err null-length file
[01:10] <diogo> Ng: Got it! ;o)
[01:10] <babo> Is there any reason why this crontab wouldn't work 3 0 * * * cd /home/bambino/Desktop/etk-scripts/post/ &&  ./posting_script workscript ... but yet it works fine from the cli ?
[01:10] <hatake_kakashi> Tallia1Kubuntu: if it said, 'You have new mail' that means there is new mail inside your /var/spool/mail/`whoami`
[01:10] <morphix> ergh
[01:11] <babo> I'm also not getting any output from the tab either from stdout or from mail. Methinks it's not running at all ...
[01:11] <jessy_> how many times an MD5SUM need to sum the md5 of an DVD (3,3gb) ?
[01:11] <hatake_kakashi> morphix: maybe try googling 'mysql HOWTO' ? :)
[01:11] <morphix> morphix i hate to be of nuisance but how do i "run that sql against the db" ?? | ikonia morphix, @file << now that means SOO much to me
[01:11] <morphix> not
[01:11] <babo> hatake_kakashi: but when I type mail ... I get that there is no mail
[01:11] <babo> morphix: phpmysqladmin
[01:12] <morphix> i use phpmyadmin
[01:12] <hatake_kakashi> jessy_: usually once, unless you made a script, etc or set it into loop :P
[01:12] <babo> morphix: then just hit the sql tab
[01:12] <snowblink> babo, ; not &&
[01:12] <jessy_> ok
[01:12] <diogo> Ng: Just one more question... To turn breezy into dapper all I need is to replace 'breezy' with 'dapper' in sources.list, right?
[01:12] <morphix> yeh
[01:12] <morphix> and
[01:12] <hatake_kakashi> babo: err, that was for Tallia1Kubuntu, I'm not sure about crontab, maybe you need to google 'vixen cron HOWTO'?
[01:12] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: yes
[01:12] <Ng> diogo: yep
[01:12] <babo> snowblink: aha ...
[01:13] <babo> snowblink: but it works from the cli
[01:13] <babo> ?
[01:13] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: you need to also do 'apt-get update' after you edit the file
[01:13] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: Cool... Then I 'upgrade' or 'dist-upgrade', which one is best?
[01:13] <snowblink> babo, crontab is a different animal. ;)
[01:13] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[01:13] <babo> snowblink: cheers, I never spotted that one :)
[01:14] <morphix> babo: i have some .sql file i need to "load the database schema" from
[01:14] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: What about 'aptitude'? I have read it's better than apt-get, but everybody seem to use apt-get... Why is that?
[01:14] <newbiefewer> hello
[01:14] <morphix> like rocket science to me lol
[01:14] <babo> morphix: your .spl file is probably text ... just cut and paste it into the textbox in phpmyadmin and press 'run'
[01:14] <Healot> aptitude uses apt-get in background
[01:14] <heyjoe1> how do i solve a screen out of range error message?
[01:14] <babo> or something to that effect
[01:15] <newbiefewer> i use synaptic
[01:15] <Healot> aptitude does it smarter than apt-get though
[01:15] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: I dunno I personally like to use apt-get myself, I've hardly used aptitude except for checking available packages in CLI
[01:15] <morphix> hm
[01:15] <morphix> hope i dont mess nothing up
[01:16] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: I've always used apt-get too, but I have recently read somewhere that people should start using aptitude instead... It's like a Debian recommendation or the like...
[01:16] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: yes I also heard about that aswell
[01:16] <sugoruyo> hi all
[01:16] <hatake_kakashi> hi
[01:16] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: anyway, many thanks for helping, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 really kicks some!
[01:16] <sugoruyo> is there any way to do an ftp install of ubuntu?
[01:17] <Healot> yes
[01:17] <Healot> if you select expert during CD install...
[01:17] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: heh glad you're enjoying it :)
[01:17] <teetasse> hq
[01:17] <Healot> dl the minimal install image... and you'll find out
[01:17] <teetasse> i have a problem reading the current cpu temp on my centrino laptop watch -n 1 cat /pric/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature" is not found, can anybody tell me a simple way to fix this? (pls don't tell me i have to recompile the kernel :P)
[01:17] <teetasse> proc I mean sorry
[01:18] <XVampireX> hello :)
[01:18] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: So much that I'll remember to copy that sources.list whenever I install Ubuntu!
[01:18] <heyjoe1> how do i solve a screen out of range error message? or how do i change the screen resolution to be more ubuntu friendly on a lg 15" flatscreen
[01:18] <sugoruyo> ok wait a minute
[01:18] <sugoruyo> i can't use a cd to install ubuntu
[01:18] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: or you can save that file somewhere else :)
[01:19] <sugoruyo> i have cd, dvd editions of breezy (ubuntu|xubuntu|kubuntu)
[01:19] <hatake_kakashi> heyjoe1: on CD/DVD bootup or after installation?
[01:19] <sugoruyo> but the installer just don't install
[01:19] <heyjoe1> after installation
[01:19] <heyjoe1> it works on another monitor
[01:19] <Healot> your linux kernel doesn't support acpi thermal monitor, teetasse ?
[01:19] <Healot> well, ubuntu's default kernel doesn't.,..
[01:19] <XVampireX> Hi, I ordered Ubuntu through ShipIt, I live in Israel, when will I be receiving it?
[01:19] <teetasse> Healot, i have the default ubuntu kernel
[01:19] <teetasse> damn :/
[01:20] <hatake_kakashi> heyjoe1: hmm, it must be your xserver-xorg conf.. try dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg or something
[01:20] <hatake_kakashi> teetasse: you might want to try mbmon :)
[01:20] <sugoruyo> installer starts then stops saying it couldn't find the disc and mount it
[01:20] <Healot> yes... teetasse, then it doesn't support acpi thermal monitoring :)
[01:20] <heyjoe1> so i type dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg when its loading
[01:20] <Healot> XVampireX, well, around 4 weeks, as promised
[01:20] <heyjoe1> or booting up
[01:20] <gnomefreak> XVampireX: it takes around 4-6 weeks depending on where you are. it doesnt give a time frame per country so its hard to tell how long to u
[01:20] <Road> Hey everyone.. I was having a problem connecting my windows x server to my ubuntu machine, but I discovered it was caused by the particular firewall software on windows.  I figured I'd post the info on the ubuntu site for the benefit of others.. my question is: where is the approriate place to post this?
[01:20] <teetasse> hatake_kakashi, thanks i give it a try
[01:21] <heyjoe1> is that all i have to do?
[01:21] <Healot> mine reached my place around 4 weeks and 3 days to be exact, after confirmed shipping
[01:21] <teetasse> Healot, is there a module around wich enables acpi for the default ubuntu kernel?
[01:21] <hatake_kakashi> heyjoe1: err, you try booting into recover mode, there it should only be one console, and from there you do that, check the config settings and make sure they are suitable for your monitor, and then you can do init 5 after finnished configuration
[01:21] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: As soon as I find out how to communicate with my Nokia 6235 USB cable! ;o)
[01:21] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: heh
[01:21] <Healot> it's the acpi module :)
[01:22] <heyjoe1> ok thanks hatake, ill try that.
[01:22] <sugoruyo> can i download an ftp install tree and set it up somewhere cause at 384 kbps (240 actually)
[01:22] <XVampireX> gnomefreak: I've read that, but I got approval right when I submitted the request. Since Ubuntu developers are situated in South Africa and Israel is in the northern "Africa" part, it might be even quicker
[01:22] <sugoruyo> it's impossible to use the net
[01:22] <hatake_kakashi> Road: windows X server? you mean XWin32?
[01:22] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: Btw, is it 'kinda safe' to upgrade to dapper already or is that still too adventurous?
[01:22] <Healot> acpi-support, acpid, and acpi... teetasse
[01:23] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: depends, I somewhat see it as advanterous
[01:23] <Healot> mostly isntalled if you have ACPI-enabled machine
[01:23] <gnomefreak> XVampireX: no they ship from canada iirc
[01:23] <Healot> X Window....
[01:23] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: only if there is a need be, that's what you need to do
[01:23] <Road> hatake_kakashi: Yes, a windows X server.  I'm connecting to a ubuntu virtual machine running on vmware.  The server I'm running is called Xmins.
[01:23] <Healot> Windows is the name of Microsoft operating systems family
[01:23] <Healot> XVampireX, ubuntu developers are in isle of Man, britain :)
[01:23] <XVampireX> CANADA! Whoa :O
[01:24] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: I think I'll wait for the official release, but I was really hoping it could have support for DRI 3D acceleration in my S3 video chip.
[01:24] <XVampireX> I thought South Africa...
[01:24] <gnomefreak> thats right mark lives in london now
[01:24] <hatake_kakashi> Road: hmm, not sure, try checking on the forum first to see if anyone has found a solution, and maybe if not, you can try and ask to see if you can post it up and if so, where
[01:24] <XVampireX> Oh well
[01:24] <Healot> my shipping was from The Netherland :)
[01:24] <Road> hatake_kakashi: Okay.. good idea
[01:24] <gnomefreak> XVampireX: mark was born in sa but lives in london
[01:24] <fsancho> hi again
[01:24] <Healot> XVampireX, they are African-British...
[01:24] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: the last I heard about S3 video chip was the limited amount of support, so 3D acceleration could be out of the question when going to dapper
[01:25] <teetasse> Healot, thanks but it seems, acpi is allready running "error inserting acpi_cpufreq" device or resource busy... :(
[01:25] <XVampireX> Will I have to go to the mail post to pick it up, or do they give it directly using a mailman? :P
[01:25] <Healot> Isle of Man to be exact ....
[01:25] <hatake_kakashi> teetasse: lsmod| grep acpi_cpufreq
[01:25] <hatake_kakashi> err, append sudo infront of that
[01:25] <fsancho> how can i make rhythmbox to play mp3 files. I have installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly* and it still doesn't work. Says ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, layer=(int) 3
[01:26] <Healot> teetasse, it does run by default....
[01:26] <Healot> only there is no acpi thermal monitor in ubuntu's kernel...
[01:26] <hatake_kakashi> !tell fsancho about mp3
[01:26] <hatake_kakashi> Healot: heh, amazing
[01:26] <XVampireX> Anyone got some website with a list of the best applications for Linux? Or does Ubuntu already come with all the best applications?
[01:26] <fsancho> hatake_kakashi: false alarm. It works.
[01:27] <hatake_kakashi> fsancho: -_-
[01:27] <fsancho> just restarted rhythmbox
[01:27] <Healot> fsancho, gstreamer*-mad.... for playing mp3
[01:27] <teetasse> Healot ah okay, so the acpi module runs by default but i need another module to access the current temp?
[01:27] <Healot> MAD :)
[01:27] <variant> XVampireX: depends on what applications you like..
[01:27] <ompaul> Healot, ehh lmsensors works for some, it is available for most cpus but it requires kernel modules
[01:27] <Healot> well, someone told you about mbmon?
[01:27] <variant> Healot: there is, your chipset might have a crappy acpi implementation
[01:27] <ompaul> Healot, mega tweeking for VIA I did not bother
[01:27] <teetasse> sure, i have a slow internet connection, i'm installing it atm
[01:28] <hatake_kakashi> Healot: yeah I mentioned it, it works on my mobo here, I have it running with gkrellm :)
[01:28] <variant> Healot: particularly if its a laptop
[01:28] <XVampireX> Oh well, I guess I'll manage :P
[01:28] <Healot> lm-sensors >> try to install this... thanks ompaul
[01:28] <liable> !info libmad0
[01:28] <ubotu> libmad0: (MPEG audio decoder library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.15.1b-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 75 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[01:28] <Road> another remote x server question.. I'm connecting to ubuntu from my windows machine, but the desktop looks strange -- there's icons missing, the fonts are different sizes, etc.  Anyone have any idea why?
[01:28] <hatake_kakashi> Road: are you on dapper?
[01:28] <ompaul> Healot, we all don't know everything but the collective IQ of this channel is quite high :)
[01:28] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: Hmmm, many thanks for that info. Now I'm damn sure I'll look for any NVIDIA card around!
[01:28] <Healot> variant, not mine, teetasse ....
[01:28] <sugoruyo> can someone help?
[01:29] <ph1qt10n> WPA is not supported on ubuntu?
[01:29] <variant> ph1qt10n: yes it is
[01:29] <Road> hatake_kakashi: I'm running 5.10 if that's what you mean
[01:29] <ph1qt10n> variant: how do i set it up
[01:29] <variant> ph1qt10n: possibly not supported on your wifi device/driver
[01:29] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: yeah unfortunately I had to bring the bad news, however one can probably be persistent to continue searching for it and maybe even at that, help compiling or do-it-yourself? :)
[01:29] <ph1qt10n> variant: my card is intel
[01:29] <diogo> Road: 5.10 = breezy
[01:30] <ompaul> sugoruyo, there is a network install option is that what you are looking for?
[01:30] <Road> okay
[01:30] <hatake_kakashi> Road: hmm hoary.. and I don't see how the icons could go missing, is it a fresh install?
[01:30] <sugoruyo> yes
[01:30] <sugoruyo> but
[01:30] <variant> ph1qt10n: you using ndiswrapper or a native driver?
[01:30] <Road> yes
[01:30] <sugoruyo> i dont want to do it over the internet
[01:30] <Road> hatake_kakashi: It runs fine locally, the icons are only missing when running the remote x server
[01:30] <sugoruyo> cause i'm running on a clogged up 384 kbps adsl
[01:30] <hatake_kakashi> Road: not sure, it might be an issue with the rendering via VMWare or something
[01:31] <sugoruyo> reaching 240 kbps peak download
[01:31] <ph1qt10n> variant: whats that
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> Road: well then I'm not too sure about it :/
[01:31] <sugoruyo> so i dont want to take 5 days to install ubuntu
[01:31] <Healot> sugoruyo, i only have a GPRS Class 10 connection, and you still complaint?
[01:31] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: I have tried installing a few pre-compiled drivers for my S3 chip, following a few cake-recipes I've found, but no luck. I better go with a well-supported video board, I guess...
[01:31] <Road> hatake_kakashi: Strangely enough, it's the (slow) vmware desktop that runs it fine, and only the (fast) x server that shows up strange.. but thanks for the help anyways
[01:31] <ompaul> sugoruyo,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/
[01:31] <sugoruyo> well i have to share it with 6 other windows users
[01:31] <sugoruyo> who adore wmv streaming
[01:31] <variant> ph1qt10n: the driver for you network card, ndiswrapper uses the windows driver inside a "wrapper" that can make it work on linux and native drivers are linux open source driver
[01:31] <variant> s
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: heh :|
[01:32] <Healot> i just order the CD...
[01:32] <Healot> i can wait :)
[01:32] <ompaul> sugoruyo, have a look at that page for network
[01:32] <sugoruyo> and sending pics through msn
[01:32] <hatake_kakashi> Road: could it be an issue with the remote client? I mean the software?
[01:32] <Healot> isntalling lm-sensor myself
[01:32] <sugoruyo> so chewing down all the bw for a couple of days would get me a nice bruise
[01:32] <variant> ph1qt10n: you can not enable wpa if your interface card does not support it
[01:32] <ompaul> sugoruyo, you could torrent download the iso and install from that
[01:32] <ph1qt10n> variant: so i need to download the driver?
[01:32] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: Compiling X myself is completelly out of question... Haven't had my NASA course yet... :oD
[01:32] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: lol
[01:32] <sugoruyo> it wont install from optical drives...
[01:32] <Road> hatake_kakashi: hm.. yes, that's a really good point.. I should try a different one.
[01:33] <sugoruyo> that's the problem
[01:33] <sugoruyo> i have the dvd
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: well patience and persistence and you will find your way :)
[01:33] <sugoruyo> and the c
[01:33] <sugoruyo> cd*
[01:33] <sugoruyo> but it either says it cannot mount the disc or complains something about initrd
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> Road: I know there is a commercial one called XWin32, tried on 2 different linux distros and it seemed to render fine
[01:33] <sugoruyo> when it installs base system
[01:33] <narzy-> gotta reset real quick.
[01:33] <narzy-> bbiam
[01:34] <sugoruyo> i have to run with weird bios setting for ata controllers to get it to boot from cd
[01:34] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: Yeah, you're right. But unfortunatelly I haven't had the time for that lately. Perhaps when S3 support becomes something usual I sell the NVIDIA and get the money back. ;o)
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[01:34] <Healot> i don't have ic2 chip. hehe
[01:34] <Road> hatake_kakashi: okay.. I'll try the demo for that and see how that works
[01:34] <Healot> wtf
[01:35] <hatake_kakashi> that would probably be highly unlikely imo, they had dropped better support for one of my oldest video cards: S3 Trio64V2+ or something. I was more or less disappointed
[01:36] <Healot> can you use the older X?
[01:36] <Road> hatake_kakashi: Wow, that's old.. my first every computer had that :)
[01:36] <ompaul> sugoruyo, have a look at these http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions and  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge not perfect but a start
[01:36] <variant> ph1qt10n: are you using the wireless network now under ubunt??
[01:36] <variant> ubuntu?*
[01:36] <Healot> S3Virge for my older PC
[01:36] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: Well then I guess politics will be better than science: boycott S3!! :o)
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> Road: heh, it was fine at certain res but I was sure that it could do much better than having very small amount of resolution
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: :)
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> Road: any luck with XWin32?
[01:37] <Road> installing.. I'll let you know
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> Road: ok, coolies
[01:37] <diogo> hatake_kakashi: must go now, many thanks for all the info!
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> diogo: np
[01:38] <onkarshinde> WHy can't I attach files to topic?
[01:38] <onkarshinde> On Wiki?
[01:39] <newbiefewer> hawe someone lexmark z617?...i hawe but it didnt work...cose i didnt find any driver...only one fron redhat...i alien it but it doesnt work cose libs....
[01:39] <babo> I put a cd command in cron, but it doesn't make any difference - it still uses it's HOME directory to execute my scripts from. I try to replace HOME but that doesn't seem to work either ... anyone help cd /home/babo/Desktop/etk-scripts/job_post/ & ls -a     ... I need to get into another directory to run a script
[01:39] <ompaul> onkarshinde, whose wiki?
[01:40] <Healot> newbiefewer, try lexmark z50 driver... it might work...
[01:40] <onkarshinde> ompaul: Ubuntu wiki
[01:40] <newbiefewer> Healot: it doesnt
[01:40] <onkarshinde> ompaul: I see no option to upload files
[01:40] <onkarshinde> ompaul: I mean attach files
[01:41] <Healot> hum catchy... that's why I hate paperwight printers...
[01:41] <Healot> go HP for printers
[01:41] <variant> ph1qt10n: read this doc, it tells you everything: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[01:41] <newbiefewer> Healot: hmm...what can i do......thats what i hawe..
[01:41] <ompaul> onkarshinde, its a knowledge base not a file system for that there are repositories have a look at the EasyUbuntu wiki page to see how they did it
[01:42] <ompaul> onkarshinde, wiki page here --->> points to data there
[01:42] <Healot> nver mind.. can you find any linux driver for the new z617?
[01:42] <ompaul> onkarshinde, if it was a script you can type the contents into the page
[01:43] <newbiefewer> lexmark hawent drivers only for z600 series...thats it...hmm
[01:43] <jind> Does anybody know how a working line in /etc/sudoers should look like if I want to run "sudo /usr/sbin/hibernate" as the user jind on this system with the hostname ras?
[01:43] <jind> Without a password that is
[01:43] <onkarshinde> ompaul: I am creating a page for phones that can be used as remote control over bluetooth. I wanted to upload a configuration file that can be used to control Totem
[01:43] <Road> hatake_kakashi: Thanks man.. you were right.  Running XWin32 fixes the display glitches.
[01:44] <Healot> onkarshinde, how's that remote bt thing going?
[01:44] <jind> The script checks for root and I want to be able to just hibernate the computer without with a mouseclick when I want to put away my laptop and go to sleep
[01:44] <newbiefewer> Healot: i find a rpm...i alien it and install but needs some libs....nad it was half instaled...-1....i cant uninstall and i cant install anything on sistem....i maked a fresh install
[01:44] <onkarshinde> Healot: Soory, I am in office on Windows 2k. SO can't give feedback now.
[01:44] <hatake_kakashi> Road: np
[01:45] <jind> err.. shouldn't have writte without over
[01:45] <Road> hatake_kakashi: And sorry.. it had nothing to do with linux after all
[01:45] <Healot> well, just want to ask, is it available for anything other than SE's?
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> Road: well that shouldn't be a problem but anyway :)
[01:45] <onkarshinde> Healot: For now I am creating this wiki page. It seems that many people don't know about it. I wish to upload the configuration I created for Totem.
[01:45] <jind> No sudo experts nearby? :)
[01:45] <HymnToLife> newbiefewer> either uninstall the package or install the correct libs and reinstall it
[01:46] <Road> have a nice day everyone
[01:46] <Healot> is that thing downloadable... i wanna try on some SE's cells
[01:46] <ompaul> onkarshinde, so document the file with {{{
[01:46] <ompaul>  your text here for the code }}}
[01:46] <newbiefewer> HymnToLife: there are not debian libs...
[01:46] <onkarshinde> Healot: Don't have any idea bout other phones. Just heard that some Nokia and Motorola phones (not sure) support this functionality. Don't have any idea how.
[01:47] <onkarshinde> ompaul: It is okay for configuration file. But there is also an image.
[01:47] <HymnToLife> newbiefewer> maybe the same libs are available for Ubuntu... It would hel if you told what the package is
[01:47] <mongo456a> i have Samba setup on ubuntu 5.10 and i can browse my home dir from winxp pro and login but i cannot create a new folder...any ideas?
[01:47] <Healot> where did you dl'ed it from?
[01:47] <ompaul> onkarshinde, pop it on fliker or wikipedia and link to it
[01:47] <onkarshinde> ompaul: Ok
[01:47] <gehel> mongo456a, is the share writeable ? can you create file ?
[01:47] <Healot> mongo456a, you don;t have persmission to write to that folder?
[01:48] <mongo456a> i do from looking at the permissions tab of the folder
[01:48] <mongo456a> it's my home dir
[01:48] <newbiefewer> HymnToLife: its only one pakage for lexmark z600
[01:48] <Bateau_> how do i set proxy settings in console?
[01:48] <newbiefewer> in redhat
[01:48] <ompaul> onkarshinde, consider dropping into #ubuntu-doc to talk to them about it - a four line conversation in there can take an hour :)
[01:49] <gehel> mongo456a, try to make your home dir world writeable to check (undo that after the check !)
[01:49] <HymnToLife> and are you quite sure the librarie are not available for Ubuntu ?
[01:49] <scenestar> is there a special chan for dapper?
[01:49] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[01:49] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[01:49] <mongo456a> gehel that didn't work
[01:49] <onkarshinde> ompaul: Thanks for suggestion
[01:49] <scenestar> HymnToLife, i know that
[01:50] <variant> gah, i really dont like the way more and more docs say "do this then re-start your computer" rather than saying "do this then enter this command".. just because most new ubuntu users have only ever used windows doesnt mean they are going to be afraid to enter a command.. the only time you need to reboot your computer is to change hardware or the kernel
[01:50] <scenestar> pah
[01:50] <HymnToLife> scenestar> why did you ask then ?
[01:51] <scenestar> nothing, you jsut stated the obvious
[01:51] <gehel> mongo456a, I didnt play with samba for quite some time ... what kind of authentication did you use ? is it a public share ?
[01:51] <newbiefewer> HymnToLife: it was about a mount when i hawe tryed it...i dont remeber well...i use widows to print...:(
[01:51] <mongo456a> gehel what do you mean what type of auth?  there is only samba and nfs by default and there weren't auth options
[01:52] <MaMaGoody> hi
[01:52] <scenestar> man, breaking your system is awesome
[01:52] <HymnToLife> well, next time you try it, look at the missing librariesand if they're not available for Ubuntu, download the RPMs and alien them :D
[01:52] <scenestar> brings back memories of windows 3.11
[01:52] <MaMaGoody> anyone know where can i get samba schema for ldap?
[01:52] <mongo456a> gehel in other words, whatever was the default i assume...and it's shared...the little app for samba sharing in ubuntu is quite simple
[01:52] <newbiefewer> HymnToLife: ill give it a try ....thx
[01:53] <MaMaGoody> found, thanks
[01:53] <newbiefewer> :)
[01:54] <gehel> mongo456a, sorry, I'm more used to file editing than GUI. The default in ubuntu seems to be security=user ... I assume you did enter your username / pwd on the winXP ?
[01:54] <osfameron> Is there a glulx interpreter available for ubuntu?
[01:54] <HymnToLife> I think samba messes up a bit with the permissions when installing it
[01:54] <mongo456a> gehel yeah, and i went into the samba config file and made the "security=user" line valid, it was remarked by default
[01:54] <osfameron> I've searched synaptic for glulx and gargoyle and other likely suspects
[01:55] <osfameron> but I think the default zcode-interpreter (frotz) doesn't do glulx graphics and the like
[01:55] <HymnToLife> try sudo chown -R user /home/user && chmod -R 755 (or whatever you want it to be) /home/user
[01:56] <scenestar> wouldnt that be a bit too generous with permissions
[01:56] <gehel> mongo456a, can you have a look /var/log/samba/* and see if you have anything meaningfull ?
[01:56] <elTigre> hi! I am interested in VoIP.... is it possible to call MSN users via a linux system?
[01:56] <scenestar> elTigre, : no
[01:56] <mongo456a> gehel ok, brb
[01:56] <scenestar> well actually
[01:56] <scenestar> elTigre, : yes it is
[01:56] <HymnToLife> I think Kopete does it (not sure though)
[01:56] <scenestar> theres a faq for amsn on the forums
[01:56] <HymnToLife> and there is Skype
[01:56] <scenestar> you need to isntall some custom libs and pkugins
[01:57] <scenestar> skype is horrible on linux
[01:57] <elTigre> on the linux side or the windows side?(plugins)
[01:57] <ompaul> HymnToLife, skype does not talk to the others (if it did it would wipe out the competition)
[01:57] <mongo456a> gehel: one thing "  Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read!"
[01:57] <gehel> scenestar, could you be more precise on skype pls ?
[01:57] <osfameron> skype is indeed horrible horrible horrible horrible
[01:57] <belou>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY passe777
[01:57] <osfameron> to the extent of being borken
[01:57] <liable> oops
[01:57] <HymnToLife> lol I don't know I never use skype
[01:57] <elTigre> well I made it work, once
[01:57] <ompaul> belou,  change that password :-)
[01:57] <liable> belou: time for a new pword..
[01:58] <belou> oups
[01:58] <scenestar> no
[01:58] <scenestar> search the forums
[01:58] <scenestar> howto section for amsn
[01:58] <Seveas> belou, /msg nickserv ser password new_password
[01:58] <NET||abuse> is there a mysqlclient v5.0.x available in the ubuntu debs anywhere,,, my search is only finding v4.1
[01:58] <HymnToLife> /msg nicksev ghost belou passe777 :D
[01:58] <scenestar> brb
[01:58] <crimsun> !info libmysqlclient15
[01:59] <liable> thats mean :)
[01:59] <mongo456a> gehel: this is the only other thing "[2006/03/06 07:45:34, 0]  smbd/service.c:make_connection(794)
[01:59] <mongo456a>   mobile_detect (<IP_ADDRESS>) couldn't find service unshare"
[01:59] <HymnToLife> indeed
[01:59] <NET||abuse> !info libmysqlclient
[01:59] <Seveas> sigh
[01:59] <gehel> ** but why in hell do windows scanner drivers have to be 60Mo ? **
[01:59] <HymnToLife> but funny
[01:59] <NET||abuse> crimsun: what does that give me? "<ubotu> Package 'libmysqlclient' does not exist."
[01:59] <Seveas> STOP IT
[01:59] <elTigre> skype sucks
[01:59] <liable> ffs, stop doing that, whoever it is..
[01:59] <mongo456a> gehel: unshare is just a shared folder i setup in the gui, which i can't access from winxp...but right now i'm just concerned about my home dir, which i can browse but not write to
[02:00] <HymnToLife> yyeah belou ze caillera du 9-3 :D
[02:00] <crimsun> NET||abuse: dapper has libmysqlclient15, which is 5.0.18.
[02:00] <Seveas> belou, /msg nickserv set password new password
[02:00] <NeoCicak> good morning
[02:00] <NET||abuse> crimsun: ahhh, thanks
[02:00] <decas> hi all
[02:00] <NET||abuse> !info libmysqlclient15
[02:00] <NeoCicak> anyone can tell me when ubuntu 6 is coming out?
[02:00] <crimsun> NET||abuse: breezy doesn't have it.
[02:00] <NET||abuse> crimsun: ah, well i'm on dapper
[02:00] <ompaul> belou, change your password now, do not log out and in again or you will be kicked for a little while
[02:00] <HymnToLife> damn you can't make a joke over here ?
[02:00] <user9> slt
[02:00] <gnomefreak> NeoCicak: april 20th
[02:00] <gehel> mongo456a, what permissions/owner do you have on your home folder ?
[02:00] <NET||abuse> crimsun: so that should have it?
[02:00] <user9> slt
[02:00] <user9> cV?
[02:00] <crimsun> NET||abuse: it does.
[02:01] <Hobbsee> er....heh
[02:01] <decas> i am very new to ubuntu. i just downloaded a program in run extension but i dont know how to set up it. anyone can help?
[02:01] <mongo456a> gehel 770
[02:01] <CarinArr> oops.
[02:01] <user9> vou parler francai????
[02:01] <Hobbsee> you want to ban everyone there Seveas?  :P
[02:01] <CarinArr> ;)
[02:01] <scenestar> ugh
[02:01] <scenestar> this is odd
[02:01] <NET||abuse> crimsun: u sure, apt-cache search libmysql shows only as high as libmysqlclient14
[02:01] <scenestar> since when does my scroll wheel go sideways
[02:01] <crimsun> !info libmysqlclient15 dapper
[02:01] <ubotu> libmysqlclient15: (mysql database client library), section libs, is optional. Version: 5.0.18-8.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1310 kB, Installed size: 2584 kB
[02:02] <gehel> mongo456a, can you change it to 777 to check ?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> scenestar: if not set up properly it will
[02:02] <mongo456a> gehel: alrady did
[02:02] <NET||abuse> crimsun: ok, what deb do i need then?
[02:02] <scenestar> i allready recondfigured xorg
[02:02] <crimsun> NET||abuse: sudo aptitude install libmysqlclient15
[02:02] <scenestar> i guess ill have to manually reset it to /dev/mouse
[02:02] <NET||abuse> crimsun: wait, i had updates off, neveer mind... thanks for the help... sorry for missing that..
[02:03] <NET||abuse> crimsun: ahh waiiitt.. libmysqlclient15 gives the necessary libraries for sure, but mys1ql-client is actually what i need.
[02:03] <NET||abuse> urr... s/mys1ql-client/mysql-client/
[02:04] <crimsun> NET||abuse: so install mysql-client-5.0
[02:04] <NET||abuse> what??? weird, didn't come up in search for mysql,,, ahh bugger that.
[02:04] <NET||abuse> sorry sorry
[02:05] <hackeron> anyone had a fuzzy picture issue when using DVI with an nvidia 6800 and knows how to fix it?
[02:05] <richard> hey anyone can help me.. i try to install kde but always ocur an error when try to dowload from this link ??????http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openexr/libopenexr-dev_1.2.2-3ubuntu1_i386.deb  please help me
[02:06] <crimsun> richard: try another mirror first.
[02:06] <scenestar> yeah
[02:06] <mongo456a> gehel : any further ideas?
[02:06] <scenestar> and be more specific
[02:06] <scenestar> it makes no sense
[02:06] <Kafnetti> Hello. I am having problems getting my other Ubuntu comp connected to the internet. The computer has about 5% chance to load the page each time I click refresh. I was thinking that it might be a problem with drivers (as it has diffrent kind of ethernet card than this one). How could I check this and how to get new drivers?
[02:06] <gehel> mongo456a, could you try to set "log level" to something higher, restart samba, try again to create the dir and have a look at the logs ?
[02:06] <scenestar> hackeron, properly configure X
[02:06] <scenestar> Kafnetti, really simple
[02:06] <mongo456a> gehel ok
[02:06] <scenestar> goto about:config in mozilla
[02:07] <hackeron> scenestar: meaning?
[02:07] <scenestar> en set ipv6 disbale to true
[02:07] <scenestar> hackeron, there is a lovely forum with instructions
[02:07] <gehel> Kafnetti, what NIC do you have ?
[02:07] <Kafnetti> scenestar, okay, I'll try that. Just a min
[02:07] <hackeron> scenestar: where?
[02:07] <scenestar> google.com
[02:08] <richard> crimsun; i try wit http://co.archive...... but it fail too
[02:08] <dutch> morning crimsun
[02:08] <crimsun> dutch: 'morning
[02:08] <scenestar> hallo man, alles goed?
[02:08] <scenestar> :P
[02:08] <dutch> crimsun, have a good weekend ?
[02:08] <crimsun> richard: pastebin the entire error
[02:08] <Troglodyt> richard try with ca. or uk. instead of us or co
[02:08] <crimsun> dutch: not bad, yours?
[02:09] <dutch> crimsun, not bad...
[02:09] <dutch> crimsun, just got through putting down 40# of weed & seed..need a break :)
[02:09] <scenestar> so, does anyone know when dpapper drake will come out with a stable release
[02:09] <gnomefreak> scenestar: april 20th
[02:10] <scenestar> got any details on laptop spport
[02:10] <lilo> Monday, 6 March 2006 at 12:57:31 PM UTC
[02:10] <hackeron> scenestar: google is a forum? -- and I tried googling
[02:11] <scenestar> ubuntuforums.com
[02:11] <scenestar> or something
[02:11] <Hobbsee> !forums
[02:11] <mongo456a> gehel: nothing new, just "Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read!"
[02:11] <richard> crimsun: this is the pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9785
[02:12] <gehel> mongo456a, looks bad ... no more idea, sorry for not being of great help ...
[02:12] <gnomefreak> !forums
[02:12] <rizwan> helo to everyone
[02:12] <crimsun> richard: 403s? That's odd.
[02:12] <Kafnetti> scenestar, what did you mean in going "about: config" in mozilla? Can't find such a thing in menus... Or if you meant to go to firefox help and search for ipv6, it found no results. :/
[02:12] <scenestar> no
[02:12] <mongo456a> gehel: thanks for trying...i've been really unimpressed with Ubuntu
[02:12] <crimsun> richard: Did you try with archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:12] <scenestar> Kafnetti: in the adress bar
[02:12] <scenestar> type in "about:config"
[02:13] <scenestar> its a special config set
[02:13] <gnomefreak> without the "
[02:13] <scenestar> gnomefreak, he cant be THAT helpless
[02:13] <mongo456a> i don't see the logic and being so unconventional with the distro...the sudo user thing is ridiculous
[02:13] <scenestar> i do
[02:13] <scenestar> it makes sense if you use mac
[02:13] <gnomefreak> scenestar: i have seen some people that are
[02:13] <jon_> mong456, If you don't like it, then set a root password and use that instead ;)
[02:13] <jon_> mongo456*
[02:13] <scenestar> gnomefreak, those people should be shot and be condemned to spyware hell for all eternity
[02:13] <jon_> a
[02:14] <mylo> anybody ever use mythtv on ubuntu ?
[02:14] <scenestar> if you want a root password
[02:14] <gnomefreak> have to remember people from windows dont know what "thismeans"
[02:14] <scenestar> sudo passwd
[02:14] <richard> crimsun: i only change my souce.list  as i tell you before co for us.. i'm new in linux. how can i do what you recommend me?
[02:14] <crimsun> if you're so keen on being pendantic on why sudo by default is Oh So Annoying, then you have much larger issues than Ubuntu.
[02:14] <heyjoe1> could anyone help me overcome a screen "out of range" error i get just after bootup when running breezy
[02:14] <scenestar> richard, try the source o matic
[02:14] <scenestar> heyjoe1, reconfigure x
[02:14] <mongo456a> i know i can use a more traditional root password, but it's not just that
[02:14] <heyjoe1> where do i type reconfigure x?
[02:14] <heyjoe1> im a real newbie sorry
[02:15] <scenestar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:15] <crimsun> heyjoe1: at a console (ctrl+alt+F1)
[02:15] <heyjoe1> so i type ctrl alt f1
[02:15] <mongo456a> for example, why hide the terminal in Applicaytions>Accesories?  it took me forever to find it
[02:15] <heyjoe1> then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:15] <crimsun> richard: change it again, but this time remove us. or co.
[02:15] <scenestar> yeah i kniow
[02:15] <scenestar> ubuntu is starting to piss me off lately
[02:15] <exono> Hello
[02:15] <mongo456a> and the devs have no idea how many potential users they are losing with this sudo account thing
[02:15] <jon_> heyjoel, no you hold down crtl + alt + f1
[02:15] <heyjoe1> yeah
[02:16] <heyjoe1> hold it down
[02:16] <scenestar> ancient packages and no decent backports
[02:16] <scenestar> its retarded
[02:16] <heyjoe1> and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <mongo456a> i agree scene
[02:16] <heyjoe1> anything after that
[02:16] <Seveas> mongo456a, scenestar, offtopic discussions elsewhere please
[02:16] <audun> how do you return from console?
[02:16] <scenestar> jawohl mein fuhrer
[02:16] <Seveas> ranting about ubuntu is not helping in a support channel
[02:16] <jon_> audun, ctrl alt f7
[02:16] <gnomefreak> alt ctrl f7
[02:16] <mongo456a> what better place to talk about ubuntu that #ubuntu?
[02:16] <gehel> the only thing that pisses me off with ubuntu is the beta version of OOo in breezy
[02:16] <LinuxJones> lol
[02:16] <liable> audun: alt+F7
[02:16] <jon_> gehel, There's a way to fix that easily.
[02:16] <crimsun> mongo456a: this is a support channel. Use #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu+1
[02:17] <Seveas> mongo456a, pointless rants about things that will not change are quite useless
[02:17] <mongo456a> Seveas i don't mean to rant, i was wondering if there was logical reasons for these things
[02:17] <Seveas> mongo456a, about sudo: most definitely, see the RootSudo wikipage
[02:17] <toogreen> anyone here has experience with Intel 950 graphics accelerators?
[02:18] <Seveas> mongo456a, the lack of backports: apparently noone from the community is interested in developing them
[02:18] <gehel> jon_, what way ? just note that I am in rwanda with awfully bad internet connection and was planning of deploying a bunch of ubuntu with te free CDs ordered from the  net (great idea !)
[02:18] <mongo456a> Seveas i own a company that puts together open source workstations and sells them nationwide, i get asked about ubunutu a lot so i decided to test it myself...i'm just looking for answers
[02:18] <Seveas> mongo456a, I hope these 2 questions are answered now
[02:18] <jon_> gehel, How bad is bad?  Because all it takes is adding a repo and sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:19] <toogreen> I can't get my laptop's graphic or network cards to work normally under my new dual core laptop need help..!
[02:19] <mylo> mongo456a, imo the sudo thing is a good thing
[02:19] <Seveas> mylo, that's an endless debate, just like vim vs emacs
[02:19] <mongo456a> Seveas: what's with the lack of updates through Synaptic?  is it just me or is there nothing available since the 5.10 release?
[02:19] <gehel> jon_, forget about doing an apt-get upgrade from here ... you have for about 2 weeks ...
[02:19] <mylo> Seveas, yeah
[02:19] <Seveas> mongo456a, you need to enable -security and -updates repositories
[02:19] <mongo456a> mylo: why is sudo better than a traditional root user account?
[02:19] <Seveas> !tell mongo456a about repos
[02:20] <mongo456a> Seveas: why wouldn't they be enabled by default?!
[02:20] <Seveas> mongo456a, please see the RootSudo wikipage for a more complete discussion than what's possible on IRC
[02:20] <Seveas> mongo456a, that's now considered a bug
[02:20] <jon_> gehel, I'm sorry?  Do you mean your internet is slow and takes forever?
[02:20] <fek> moin
[02:20] <gehel> mongo456a, it alows you to get root only for the needed command, you dont keep a root shell open
[02:20] <mylo> mongo456a, you can limit what users can do/execute , and have them logged if they are trying other undefined program.
[02:21] <gehel> jon_, it's slow and awfully expensive ... I have to learn to work without internet again ...
[02:21] <mylo> mongo456a, i'm off conversation with sudo thing
[02:21] <Seveas> mongo456a, as of 6.04 - if an internet connection is detected by the installer those repositories are enabled
[02:21] <mongo456a> gehel: but you can accomplish the same thing using other distros
[02:21] <mongo456a> Seveas: that's a relief
[02:21] <Seveas> mongo456a, indeed
[02:21] <gehel> jon_, add to that that most PCs dont even have an internet connection ...
[02:22] <gehel> jon_, but I'm getting off topic here ...
[02:22] <anakronisme> i miss my connection
[02:22] <jon_> gehel, Yeah.  I don't know, perhaps you could get in contact with a dev and see if you could get those problems resolved before you get CDs shipped out?
[02:22] <Fracture> hi.. is this the place for evolution support ?
[02:23] <Sp00n> i need help with usb accessories workin in ubuntu
[02:23] <gehel> jon_, I already have the CDs ... I'll wait for the next release and see if it is fixed ...
[02:23] <Seveas> Fracture, this is the place for Ubuntu support ;)
[02:23] <jon_> gehel, Should be.
[02:23] <Kafnetti> So... I am having a problem with my internet connection on another comp and thought it might have to do with drivers. I asked how to check it and how to get new drivers and was told to disable ipv6 in about:config in mozilla. But what to do next
[02:23] <sugoruyo> ok here's the deal: i have a p4 machine to install ubuntu on. it won't install from an optical drive though so i need to do an install through the net. problem is inet connection is slow like hell. so i want to know (A) can i use the dvd i have to create some sort of file system structure and put on an ftp server to install from lan? (B) if A is impossible is it possible to download a tree from the  net to place on the ftp server? there's
[02:23] <sugoruyo> is a mac mini available for the role of ftp server
[02:23] <Zeep> Fracture: More specific problems are discussed in the gnome-list, I guess *g*
[02:23] <newbiefewer> thx and byby
[02:23] <gehel> mongo456a, and you can do the same as other distro with ubuntu ... or am I missing soomething ?
[02:23] <Fracture> Seveas: yeah, I know that ;) the evolution Helo / Get online Help page directed me here ;)
[02:24] <mongo456a> Seveas: i found 5.10 very easy to install but too simplistic by default...however it is a solid distro, i cannot argue that - i will say that it still has a way to go before it reaches a point where i can distribute it to clients...i don't even know how i would approach the sudo user setup...it's disheartening when i have to search deep into Ubuntu docs to fully understand the sudo account functionality, and even there it isn't explained in depth or in
[02:24] <mongo456a> laymans terms
[02:24] <Seveas> sugoruyo, wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/NetInstall (iirc)
[02:24] <gnomefreak> mongo456a: simplistic to you i have seen others have issues with it
[02:24] <ompaul> gehel, mongo456a please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic (/join #ubuntu-offtopic) it is not here for here a help channel with 500+  in it
[02:24] <mongo456a> gehel: well in most distros you just enter the "su" command to log in as root or whatever and work that way...just like the "sudo" in ubuntu
[02:24] <gnomefreak> were back up to 500 :)
[02:25] <Seveas> mongo456a, it's quite easy, all menu entries and gui things already use sudo and (this is real evil but demanded by users) bash will display a notice about sudo on first start of the shell
[02:25] <gehel> ompaul, rgr
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Seveas: does breezy do that too?
[02:25] <mongo456a> it iddn't for me
[02:25] <sugoruyo> Seveas, it's empty
[02:26] <Seveas> mongo456a, I usually explain sudo as "To make sure you know what you're doing and to notify you that you are doing serious system administration, we now ask you for your password again"
[02:26] <sugoruyo> wiki says it's non existent
[02:26] <gehel> 5 hours to download scanner drivers ... I hate HP ! bye all and have a good day !
[02:26] <Seveas> mongo456a, and the shell notice thing is new in 6.04/dapper
[02:27] <Seveas> gnomefreak, yeah, only about 150 more to go before the channel is fully back
[02:27] <mongo456a> Seveas: you obviously love ubuntu and know what you're talking about, and believe me i'm not here to rant or cause people headaches, i just wanted some answers and was hoping that i was missing something.  now that i see that it's just how ubuntu works i can make a better informed decision, so i thank you all for your answers
[02:27] <ompaul> 512 we were on 687 when it went iirc
[02:27] <Seveas> mongo456a, glad I could help
[02:27] <cwillu> mongo456a; ftr, osx uses sudo as well (doesn't it?) :)
[02:27] <Seveas> (and I indeed love Ubuntu but welcome criticism)
[02:28] <Seveas> cwillu, indeed
[02:28] <Seveas> cwillu, but in macworld all is gui so you hardly notice
[02:28] <Seveas> ideally, the same would be the case for Ubuntu on the desktop
[02:28] <mongo456a> cwillu: osx is not something i would reference :)
[02:28] <cwillu> I think we've found the communication problem :p
[02:28] <jon_> Seveas, ;) "ideally" Keyword there.
[02:28] <mylo> mongo456a, is your future customer a power user ?
[02:29] <Seveas> jon_, there's lots of work being done about it right now, gnome/kde development is going quite fast
[02:29] <mongo456a> mylo: my clients are all over the spectrum, from novice to power user...the novices however are novices to linux, not PCs
[02:30] <jon_> Seveas, But when I have to restart X in a terminal because it's taking up 60% of the processor... ;) It's not ready.
[02:30] <Seveas> mongo456a, same here - but they all like Ubuntu. Even with sudo ;)
[02:30] <ompaul> mongo456a, please take the conversation to the other channel I will even join in, really this is distracting from the function of this channel
[02:30] <jon_> As much as I love linux
[02:30] <Seveas> ompaul, I disagree
[02:30] <sugoruyo> anyone?
[02:31] <mylo> i'm joining anywhere this conversation goes
[02:31] <ompaul> mylo, you can be in more than one channel at at time
[02:31] <ompaul> s/at at/a :)
[02:32] <mylo> ompaul, yeah, :)
[02:32] <mongo456a> ompaul: no one is here for support atm :)
[02:32] <mylo> mongo456a, let's go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:32] <phisrow> Good morning. Anybody mind helping me out with an X problem?
[02:32] <valzaq> hello everybody i have a problem instaling a new netcard when it boots it says something like cannot allocate first something on pci device
[02:32] <richard> crimsun: ocur the same error...
[02:32] <ompaul> mongo456a, sugoruyo has something going on :)
[02:32] <mongo456a> ok i'm going there
[02:32] <GTX> Guys how do I extract an .rar file in  cmd line
[02:32] <gnomefreak> !rar
[02:32] <ubotu> methinks rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:32] <crimsun> rar e foo.rar
[02:33] <Fracture> I have a problem with Evolution.  When I create a html signiture, it works fine until I restart evolution.  Then it starts displaying the HTML source instead, even if I go to edit it.
[02:33] <renewip> Im being in a KDE session. How to start a new console session?
[02:34] <renewip> which command?
[02:34] <cwillu> sugoruyo; you can't install from dvd or cd?
[02:34] !lilo:*! DLINE recycle in process, you may see a few annoyance bots come back on a temporary basis. Apologies for the inconvenience and it shouldn't last long. Thanks.
[02:35] <ompaul> sugoruyo,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrandonJasper has something on it
[02:35] <sohmc> I accidently deleted a directory: /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/  how do I replace it?
[02:35] <Seveas> sohmc, sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/
[02:36] <nicetip> hi, every body.
[02:36] <sugoruyo> ompaul, no i cant
[02:36] <sugoruyo> some bios settings freeze the POST
[02:36] <phisrow> Hello nicetip.
[02:36] <nicetip> : D
[02:36] <sugoruyo> some others cause ubuntu installer to fail asking for the disc to be inserted as it cant mount it
[02:36] <sohmc> Seveas:: hmm...didn't work...apt-get is still complaining
[02:36] <sugoruyo> some others go past this point
[02:36] <ompaul> sugoruyo, you are using the PPC version of the disk?
[02:37] <valzaq>  hello everybody i have a problem instaling a new netcard when it boots it says something like cannot allocate the pci device
[02:37] <sohmc> Seveas:: nevermind
[02:37] <sugoruyo> where the "installing base system" stops saying it couldn't transfer to disk the initrd image
[02:37] <sugoruyo> of course not
[02:38] <sugoruyo> it wouldn't linux-686 and linux-image-686-2.9.10-9 or sth like that on it, would it?
[02:38] <sugoruyo> i don't think i've confused my discs :P
[02:38] <sugoruyo> i'd encountered this some time ago
[02:38] <richard> richard crimsun: ocur the same error... i can't install kde
[02:38] <sugoruyo> but it was resolved
[02:38] <sugoruyo> using bios settings
[02:38] <sugoruyo> which now dont work
[02:39] <cwillu> sugoruyo; I don't suppose a live cd works does it?
[02:39] <sugoruyo> no
[02:39] <sugoruyo> all live cd's
[02:39] <sugoruyo> except fox desktop
[02:39] <sugoruyo> (fc4-based)
[02:39] <Ng> !tell sugoruyo about enter
[02:40] <Absenth> is anyone here aware of a how-to for installing/configuring postfix on breezy?
[02:40] <sugoruyo> freeze while doing sth to the IRQs
[02:40] <Seveas> !help
[02:40] <Seveas> @help
[02:40] <Ubugtu> (help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[02:41] <liable> @hi
[02:41] <sugoruyo> Ng, lol
[02:41] <liable> is that a bot?
[02:41] <belou> damn it i am on a dell 380, is there a special way to have nvidia driver working?
[02:41] <ompaul> liable, yes
[02:41] <Ng> !tell belou about nvidia
[02:41] <liable> ok
[02:42] <sugoruyo> so anyone have any ideas?
[02:42] <sugoruyo> or should i give up on the idea of linux on my pc
[02:42] <liable> why does it have ops?
[02:42] <sugoruyo> no distro finishes the install and no live cd finishes loading
[02:43] <phisrow> What manner of machine do you have?
[02:43] <cwillu> sugoruyo; have you tried the usual kernel switches?
[02:43] <cwillu> noapic, etc?
[02:43] <liable> oh, its like debhelper?
[02:43] <sugoruyo> cwillu, no
[02:43] <cwillu> no, haven't, no inapplicable, no didn't work?
[02:43] <sugoruyo> cwillu,
[02:43] <jon_> sugoruyo, On my older computer, I *have* to boot with noapic
[02:44] <richard> how can i install kde.. i have problems?
[02:44] <johndarkhorse> richard: are you trying "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" ?
[02:44] <sugoruyo> jon_, what does that do? my problem seems to be the inability to read from dvd or write to sata disk
[02:44] <Absenth> sugoruyo, I was previously able to install linux (various flavors) on my laptop.  Recently this has stopped working.  Removing one of my two memory modules seems to have resolved this.  (leading me to believe I have bad ram :)
[02:45] <sugoruyo> i have tried even using another cpu
[02:45] <Absenth> sugoruyo, now, if it hasn't ever worked.  Some of the kernel switches at boot are more likely.
[02:45] <jon_> Ah
[02:46] <sugoruyo> as long as i use my current mobo
[02:46] <sugoruyo> it wont work
[02:46] <richard> johndarkhorse: yes i try but ocur this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9785
[02:46] <sugoruyo> Absenth, well it has worked before
[02:46] <phisrow> Sugoruyo, your BIOS is fully updated, right? Your problem sounds like some flavour of BIOS glitch.
[02:46] <sugoruyo> and it did so without switches
[02:47] <sugoruyo> phisrow, unfortunately the BIOS is fully updated
[02:47] <sugoruyo> and cant be downgraded
[02:47] <sugoruyo> in case the glitch is in the new version
[02:47] <phisrow> Hmm.
[02:47] <liable> cant downgrade the biosZ?
[02:47] <sugoruyo> i already know its a bios problem
[02:48] <sugoruyo> liable, nope
[02:48] <liable> that sucks
[02:48] <sugoruyo> it's supposedly possible but when i tried it failed always
[02:48] <sugoruyo> liable, big time
[02:49] <ITS_FOR_REAL> sugoruyo, not a fun way to solve it but email the manufacture of mobo? :/
[02:49] <sugoruyo> anyway i was thinking about using the dvd i have and my mini to set it up as an ftp and install from the lan
[02:49] <sugoruyo> they say it works just fine... in bad english
[02:49] <anildigital> hey what will happen, if I make bad chats in this channel
[02:50] <anakronisme> anil: you will spontaneously combust
[02:50] <sugoruyo> no way to find a way through them... i was hoping to install today and get on with it