[00:30] <kole> is there a way i can make the xfce panel act like a real dock?
[00:30] <GridCube> kole, what do you mean by "a real dock"
[00:30] <kole> like i click on the icon, and it minimizes/opens
[00:31] <lderan> ah so like the os x dock?
[00:31] <kole> i guess
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Cairo-Dock running on top of XFCE?
[00:31] <Unit193> Ah, so an appmenu kind of like unity.
[00:32] <kole> hmm i think ive heard of cairo but would that slow things down
[00:32] <kole> xfce panel is really smooth for me right now
[00:33] <GridCube> kole, you can try this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/dockbarx-available-as-xfce-panel-plugin.html
[00:33] <GridCube> but i couldnt make it work (never bothered to figure out why it didnt launched closed applications)
[00:34] <SonikkuAmerica> GridCube: Because they were closed!?
[00:34] <GridCube> SonikkuAmerica, that applet should in theory open the "pinned" applications
[00:34] <SonikkuAmerica> GridCube: Ahhh. :)
[00:35] <kole> thanks GridCube, i'll give it a try let u know how it goes
[00:36] <GridCube> apparently i forgot a step
[00:36] <GridCube> or maybe not i dont remember
[00:46] <kole> GridCube, so you don't have it running?
[00:47] <GridCube> kole, it doesnt launch applications for me, so i dont see a reason to
[00:47] <GridCube> it looks promising tho
[00:47] <GridCube> it does what you want to do
[00:48] <kole> Oh, it's working fine for me.. dockx icons are all moved on the right of my panel now though, think i'm just going to delete panel icons and repin the dockbarx icons
[00:49] <GridCube> add a separator and set it to auto expand
[02:28] <rafawebb> hello people!
[02:28] <rafawebb> i am noob in this channel
[02:29] <rafawebb> i am installing xubuntu in this time!
[02:29] <Unit193> And I'm a cranky old person to this channel!  Welcome!
[02:30] <rafawebb> ok, thanks
[02:31] <rafawebb> i need restart my computer now...the instalation is finished
[02:32] <rafawebb> sorry for errors in my comunication...but i am a brazilian user
[02:33] <Unit193> Not been a problem, but there is a channel for others that speak the same language if you wanted to also try that.
[02:34] <Unit193> !br
[04:28] <Grungeman> Hi guise.. I already tried google without any luck... I have a compaq cq50 ... the internal mic is not working, I already went to alsa settings and turned everything up all the way... still no go
[08:50] <cesc39> hi there...
[08:50] <cesc39> I have a problem with my instalation of xubuntu 12.10 on an old laptop
[08:50] <cesc39> I installed it successfully and even installed the updates... then I rebooted
[08:51] <cesc39> after this... I was asked to introduce the encrypt password...
[08:51] <cesc39> and then a message appears saying....
[08:51] <cesc39> Press S to omit the mounting, press M for a manual recovery...
[08:51] <cesc39> any clue about what to do next?
[13:05] <baizon> can you guys install this application? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/master-pdf-editor/
[13:06] <baizon> on the website stands its free, but when i try to install it through the USC i have to buy it
[13:08] <TheSheep> inkscape can edit pdfs
[13:08] <TheSheep> stopasgroup=true
[13:08] <TheSheep> killasgroup=true
[13:08] <TheSheep> sorry
[13:12] <DDM> hello?
[13:14] <baizon> DDM: hi
[13:14] <gry> hi
[13:17] <DDM> I have a problem with the audio of xubuntu, but english isn't my first language so excuse me for my writing
[13:18] <DDM> my audio is scratchy and I don t know why
[13:19] <TheSheep> !it
[13:20] <DDM> thanks
[13:20] <TheSheep> DDM: try to make sure that no channel is set to max volume
[13:21] <TheSheep> DDM: I noticed that the signal is getting cut off if any slider is at maximum on some cards
[13:21] <elfy> baizon: it is free, but you have to 'buy' it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/968974 for instance
[13:22] <baizon> elfy: aaaa ok, thank you
[13:27] <elfy> baizon: confused me as well - silly wording if you ask me
[16:30] <nantou> 2 days to go
[16:30] <nantou> netsplit
[18:56] <twinkie_addict> hi
[20:27] <ang_> my power level doesn't show when i run on battery so i don't know how much power i have left, can someone help me
[20:37] <drc> What is the "System Tray Icon" setting in Power Management?
[20:38] <drc> Guess s/he was impatient.
[23:08] <Stameni> hello, what do i loose if i choose xubuntu except unity ?
[23:08] <Stameni> tcan i install nautilus and stuff that i have used to ?
[23:09] <knome> Stameni, you can, but if you are looking for a lighter system, please be aware that those will make xubuntu heavier than the ones that we're shipping by default
[23:11] <Unit193> And nautilus likes to take over the desktop.
[23:11] <Stameni> i have a six core and 4 gb of ram, not a problem, but want to avoid unity while retaining all good stuff abaut ubuntu
[23:11] <David-A> Stameni: is there something special in Nautilus you need, that is not in Thunar or other file browsers?
[23:12] <Stameni> no, i just used to nautilus, i have maunted live on other pc, xubuntu, so i`ll check
[23:12] <Unit193> Stameni: If something looks to pull in too many depends you can also use apt-get install $PROGNAME --no-install-recommends
[23:13] <knome> i'd try what comes with xubuntu first
[23:13] <knome> makes more integrated system
[23:13] <Cheri703> I installed nautilus because thunar doesn't have the ability to expand folders in list view
[23:13] <David-A> Stameni: I think the Mate desktop looks and feels much like gnome2, you can try that, if Xfce feels to un-familiar.
[23:14] <David-A> Stameni: but try xubuntu with thunar first. maybe you like it.
[23:15] <Stameni> Ok, Thunar looks just fine i guess ( i run xubuntu on another comp in live mode )
[23:15] <Stameni> and all off the things that are in the ubuntu repoes are also available in xubuntu ?
[23:15] <Stameni> just desktop enviroment is diferent ?
[23:16] <Stameni> all graphic drivers, directory structure, everything else is the same ?
[23:17] <Stameni> so i can run my beckup scripts without changing anything ?
[23:17] <knome> yes, xubuntu shares the repositories with ubuntu
[23:17] <David-A> Stameni: it is the same repos, so everything is available.
[23:18] <Stameni> i like how it looks like, i feel at home somehow
[23:18] <David-A> Stameni: if the scripts does not use any particularities in the graphical desktop environment, they will work the same.
[23:19] <Stameni> David-A, no, strict command line scripts using rsync
[23:20] <David-A> Stameni: then it seems you are already home :)
[23:20] <Stameni> I like that there is no "social apps" integration cause i dont use any
[23:20] <Stameni> thank you all for the answers
[23:22] <Stameni> lol cpu 1 %, memory 5 % :)
[23:22] <knome> have fun
[23:24] <nixnine> hey guys, tried to boot up and am getting the following: "no init found". what does that mean?
[23:28] <asenk> Stameni: I feel pretty much the same, ubuntu kinda feels like im using a system which could be found in library or so - not home at all
[23:30] <Stameni> asenk, to mee, its too much unusable "candy" stuff. People who extensivly use twiter, facebook and so on might fint it helping but people who just use their computer for strict desktop jobs dont need all that mambo-integration-jumbo
[23:31] <Stameni> but, in the library that i  am regulary going to study they actualy really use ubuntu :D
[23:31] <knome> !offtopic | Stameni, asenk:
[23:31] <knome> i'm off, hf -->
[23:32] <Stameni> knome, understood
[23:34] <Stameni> what is the difference between xfce terminal emulator and gnome terminal emulator _
[23:34] <Stameni> ?
[23:34] <David-A> nixnine: when i google    "no init found" "ubuntu"   there are hits in ubuntuforums and askubuntu. do they solve your problem? tell if you need help with details?
[23:46] <David-A> nixnine: If I understand correctly, you may need to repair the file system, from a live system, either with fsck or gparted.
[23:48] <Stameni> when i try to install totem movie player it says thet it depends on libtotem0 but its not going to be installed. Why ?
[23:48] <Stameni> i would expect it to automaticly resolve dependecies
[23:48] <nixnine> okay. thanks


[02:44] <david_> h
[06:09] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:49] <isomari> greetings, my recent update has made plasma greyscale. Including all run applications. Login is full color though and when I switch desktops, the transition effect is color until it reach the chosen desktop.
 (Photo, 2560x690) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ae0grGTf/file_18756.jpg
 Hey guys, I'm running Kubuntu 18.04 and I'm wanting to run the latest version of Kontact (19.04.1) via Flatpak and set up my GMail account with Kontact, I get issues.  I install it via the following: … flatpak install flathub org.kde.kontact … flatpak run org.kde.kontact … I then go and start the process of adding and authenticating against GMail and i get a screen which says: … Sign in with Google Temporarily disabled for th
 Any Ideas?
 (Photo, 2560x690) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/iuj8pLpi/file_18757.jpg
 When I clicked on 'Akonadi Resources for Google Services'
[08:12] <isomari> also my right click desktop menus are in color. What is going on.  This happended to my desktop and my laptop last Satuday. The desktop is Cosmic and the laptop is Dicso.
[08:13] <isomari> I update daily including 30 minutes ago hoping to saolve the problem but it didn't.
 @zparihar, https://www.dvratil.cz/2019/08/kontact-google-integration-issue/
[09:12] <isomari> how can I reinstall the plasma portion of kubuntu?
[10:57] <user|zet> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu on my Dell XPS 15 9570 and everything is working great. Except for the touchpad, I can select "Mouse Click Emulation" but all the other options are greyed out. Even selecting the option, taping to click still doesn't work.
[10:58] <user|zet> Any ideas, what the problem could be?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 Hello BluesKaj
[13:38] <BluesKaj> hi Swift110
 How r u
[13:48] <BluesKaj> fine here, and you ...we don't textspeak like "r" and "u" on these support chats
[13:48] <BluesKaj> !u
 Ok sure
[14:23] <isomari> greetings, my plasma desktop is sudden;y greyscale though I have not installed any such effect. What is happening?
[14:23] <isomari> even running apps are greyscale. although context menus are still in color.
[15:18] <Brutus> Hi, does anyone know where the users files are on the ISO? there is no homefolder. is there a default / all users folder available?
[15:19] <Brutus> Or is there a folder where it grabs the files from when it creates the /home folder when booting the ISO?
[15:20] <aedigital> brutus if i understanded
[15:20] <Brutus> by default in the ISO, the /home only has a .directory file, which leads to /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-home
[15:20] <aedigital> you need search for squashfs in google
[15:20] <Brutus> aedigital: that's not what i'm looking for
[15:21] <aedigital> ok
[15:21] <Brutus> i want to place a file on the desktop which shows up on the kubuntu user after it's booting the ISO file
[15:28] <Brutus> the homefolders is populated somehow
[15:35] <OerHeks> all you can do is make a live iso + persistent part  with mkusb https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/03/create-persistent-storage-live-usb-with.html
[15:37] <murat_> lan
[16:06] <Guest8924> hi
[16:07] <Guest8924> frage: wie kann ich eine SD (micro) unter root rechten einbinden? ist momentan nur als benutzer eingehängt
[16:09] <Guest8924> der aktuelle pfad /media/kubuntu/178B-CE26
[16:12] <Guest8924> ?  anybody out there?
[20:00] <Brutus> OerHeks: not really what i'm trying to do
[20:34] <valorie> Brutus: you can also create your own ISOs
[20:34] <valorie> and make the changes you want there
[20:34] <valorie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/409607/how-to-create-a-customized-ubuntu-server-iso
[20:35] <Brutus> valorie: i'm trying to modify a kubuntu iso
[20:35] <Brutus> Brutus | Hi, does anyone know where the users files are on the ISO? there is no homefolder. is there a default / all users folder available?
[20:35] <Brutus> Brutus | Or is there a folder where it grabs the files from when it creates the /home folder when booting the ISO?
[20:35] <valorie> right, I'm sure that there are tuts on how to do with from flavors
[20:36] <valorie> not really what this channel is for, however
[20:36] <valorie> that was just a quick google on my part
[20:36] <Brutus> sure, but i'm asking a specific question about the kubuntu iso
[20:36] <valorie> there are lots of resources out there, and lots of custom ISOs
[20:37] <valorie> all of the ISOs are made the same way
[20:37] <valorie> we all use the same base system
[20:37] <valorie> our value is the KDE software we provide
[20:50] <RikMills>  the filesystem you see in the live session is the compressed filesystem image in /casper/filesystem.squashfs
[20:51] <RikMills>  /home/kubuntu is in there
[20:55] <RikMills> Brutus valorie: https://launchpad.net/cubic
[20:56] <valorie> oh thanks, RikMills
[20:56] <valorie> RikMills is someone who know this in and out
[20:56] <Brutus> RikMills: ahhh
[20:56] <valorie> vs me who know what to ask google
[20:56] <valorie> :-)
[20:57] <Brutus> i'll look into that when i'm back at work tomorrow
[20:57] <Brutus> i'm surprised it's there
[20:57] <valorie> lots of deployments have the same needs as you do
[20:57] <Brutus> The entire filesystem seems populated except for the kubuntu directory in the /home folder
[20:58] <Brutus> I was searching for a directory where standard files are. for example, i know that windows has the all users folder. you place a shortcut there and every user has that
[20:58] <valorie> I have no such directory?
[20:58] <valorie> never have had
[20:58] <Brutus> valorie: on the iSO
[20:58] <valorie> ah
[20:59] <RikMills> what do you mean by standard files?
[20:59] <Brutus> I was considering making a script in the crontab that just adds it after the user is created. that might solve that part
[21:00] <Brutus> sorry standard files is the wrong way to say this. i remember from (i think) gnome 1 or 2, that there was a folder that had files that were added to each user, just like windows has the all users directory
[21:00] <RikMills>  /etc/skel/
[21:01] <Brutus> ahhh
[21:01] <Brutus> yeah that seems to do the trick :)
[21:01] <Brutus> thanks a lot, that's what i was looking for :)
[21:01] <RikMills> np
[21:02] <Brutus> i'm probably not asking the most common questions
 @RikMills, Thanks Rik! I appreciate that!


[01:25] <r4venhurst> Hello. Mistakes were made today.
[01:39] <r4venhurst> Hi.
[06:37] <travelinrob> Is there a way to transfer folders from phone to computer via KDE connect? I can only seem to transfer files.
[10:59] <Dragnslcr> travelinrob- start the copy from the computer or the phone? From the computer, you can open the phone in Dolphin and copy entire directories as normal.
[12:08] <FKAShinobi> Does Plasma support touch screen devices?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[18:59] <travelinrob> Dragnslcr: Thank you for your reply. I was unable to access my phone directly via USB from the computer.


[07:51] <highvoltage> hi there fridgers!
[07:51] <highvoltage> is a story like this fridge-worthy? http://edubuntu.org/news/7
[07:52] <highvoltage> if so, can someone please put it up?
[08:07] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: yes, it is
[08:07] <highvoltage> hi Burgundavia
[09:13] <Burgundavia> robitaille: can you write up a quick fridge story for us?
[09:13] <nixternal> or i could
[09:13] <nixternal> or you could
[09:13] <nixternal> hehe
[09:14] <highvoltage> nixternal: thanks :)
[09:14] <nixternal> thanks for what?
[09:14] <robitaille> nixternal:  go ahead...I'm about to go to bed
[09:14] <nixternal> lol
[09:14] <Burgundavia> actually, I don't have edit rights on teh fridge
[09:14] <highvoltage> nixternal: for voluneering :)
[09:14] <nixternal> got it robitaille!
[09:14] <highvoltage> 09:13 < nixternal> or i could
[09:14] <nixternal> lol
[09:14] <nixternal> highvoltage: you got edit rights?
[09:14] <highvoltage> nope :-/
[09:14] <nixternal> if you say no, i will check
[09:14] <nixternal> haha
[09:14] <nixternal> ok..let me hit it up really quick
[09:23] <nixternal> Weekly News #18 in Fridge Queue!
[09:23] <nixternal> immmm back
[09:23] <nixternal> hook it up
[09:25] <nixternal> how come that flickr bar only shows the same junk?
[09:25] <nixternal> it never updates..i would say it is broke
[03:13] <highvoltage> hi
[03:13] <highvoltage> any fridge admins have some time to put http://edubuntu.org/news/7 up? :)


 @mitya57 none of Qt does 'build-required' for autopkgtests, correct?
 @RikMills [@mitya57 none of Qt does 'build-required' for autopkgtests, correct?], None of Qt has autopkgtests :-(
 Oh, I must not be remembering right


[09:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamespage, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3191 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[14:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3192 Preparing packages
[14:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3192 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3192 Failed to build


[00:02] <abuDawud> can any experienced MOTU folks just go over the basics of how they run the entire process... I don't see this anywhere on the wiki
[00:03] <abuDawud> Like how do you look for a 'bug', how do you confirm its not already packaged for the requested version, how do you start the process of packaging, etc
[00:10] <bdrung> mr_pouit: around?
[05:54] <DiegoTc> hi guys
[05:54] <DiegoTc>  I am trying to package a qt code I did
[05:54] <DiegoTc>  actually i did it
[05:54] <DiegoTc>  but when i installed it
[05:54] <DiegoTc>  i can't not find it
[05:54] <DiegoTc>  i have to search it
[05:54] <DiegoTc>  wondering if there is a way that it creates a "shortcut on the aplication menu"
[05:59] <DiegoTc> someone could help me on that?
[06:00] <paultag> DiegoTc, look at .desktop files, check some existing code to find it. might be worthwhile to apt-get source on a few packages that install to the menu
[06:00] <paultag> DiegoTc, I think gedit has one, and it's a straightforward package, iirc
[06:00] <paultag> DiegoTc, if not, groundcontrol has a good setup
[06:02] <paultag> yeah, groundcontrol is better, DiegoTc
[06:02] <DiegoTc> okay
[06:02] <DiegoTc> thanks paultag
[06:02] <paultag> good luck, DiegoTc
[06:02] <DiegoTc> paultag, when I upload a package to lp it takes some minutes to update the ppa page?
[06:02] <paultag> BBL, futurama
[06:03] <paultag> DiegoTc, you'll get an email
[06:03] <paultag> /away
[06:03] <DiegoTc> jajaja
[06:03] <DiegoTc> it got reject it
[06:03] <DiegoTc> :p
[06:19] <mr_pouit> bdrung: yes?
[06:37] <kklimonda> good morning
[07:00] <coolbhavi> Is internet available on official buildds?
[07:00] <ajmitch> not at all
[07:04] <dholbach> good morning!
[07:33] <coolbhavi> good morning dholbach
[07:33] <dholbach> hey coolbhavi
[07:34]  * coolbhavi runs back to work
[07:40] <bilalakhtar> dholbach: When would be a proper time to push a new update of the sponsoring overview to reports.qa.ubuntu.com?
[07:40] <dholbach> bilalakhtar, what do you mean?
[07:41] <bilalakhtar> dholbach: I mean to ask, is the sponsoring overview in trunk stable enough to replace the one already on reports.q.u.c ?
[07:41] <dholbach> I'm quite sure that it is
[07:42] <dholbach> so what's in lp:ubuntu-sponsoring  should be what's available at reports.q.u.c
[07:42] <dholbach> Using saved parent location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-sponsoring/trunk/
[07:42] <dholbach> No revisions to pull.
[07:42] <dholbach> bilalakhtar, ^
[07:43] <bilalakhtar> dholbach: I don't think it is
[07:43] <bilalakhtar> dholbach: running the sponsoring overview in trunk has a completely new look
[07:43] <dholbach> the message above is from the report.q.u.c
[07:43]  * bilalakhtar confirmes
[07:44] <dholbach> what is different?
[07:45] <bilalakhtar> dholbach: wait a few minutes, I will telll you
[07:45] <bilalakhtar> I am currently running the overview from trunk
[07:56] <dholbach> bilalakhtar, so I just checked the local output and it looks very much the same to me
[07:56] <dholbach> I need to go now - I'll bbl, so let me know what you found
[07:56] <bilalakhtar> dholbach: thanks, mine is the same as well
[07:56] <dholbach> ok good :)
[07:56] <dholbach> phew!
[07:56] <bilalakhtar> sorry for the poke the
[07:57] <bilalakhtar> *then
[07:57] <dholbach> no worries
[07:57] <bilalakhtar> Actually an older version on trunk had a bit better look
[07:57] <bilalakhtar> which made me think the one in qa.u.c is old
[07:57] <dholbach> I really don't think the look changed in the last few months
[07:57] <dholbach> but if you have suggestions or want to contribute...... :)
[08:18] <micahg> ebroder: good call on the source dir issue WRT mame
[08:44] <bilalakhtar> quadrispro: good luck with your application!
[08:44] <quadrispro> thank you bilalakhtar !
[10:29] <hrw> hi
[10:30] <hrw> I have a directory with pbuilder results and there are many versions of same package. anyone has a script or other way to remove all versions other then latest one?
[10:33] <Rhonda> hrw: ls *.changes | tac | tail -n +2 | xargs dcmd rm
[10:33] <Rhonda> … this though might remove the .orig.tar.gz for your latest build too. But you should be able to fetch that again anyway.
[10:33] <hrw> Rhonda: thx
[10:34] <Rhonda> Do an "xargs dcmd echo rm"
[10:34] <Rhonda> … so you actually get an idea what will get done. :)
[10:35] <hrw> ok
[10:35] <StevenK> dcmd is not necessary, I think he only wants to remove them locally
[10:35] <Rhonda> StevenK: So?
[10:35] <StevenK> Oh, I thought it was something else
[10:36] <Rhonda> dcmd expands the .changes file to all files referenced in it
[10:36] <Rhonda> So it will actually remove the sources and binaries referenced within too.
[11:59] <bdrung> mr_pouit: i saw that you talked about syncpackage. it takes a .dsc file (from debian) and all corresponding files, creates a _source.changes file for uploading it to ubuntu. do you want to know more about it?
[12:02] <bdrung> bilalakhtar: re sponsors-overview: please check if adblock-plus blocks something
[12:02] <bilalakhtar> bdrung: hmm? okay
[12:03] <bdrung> bilalakhtar: it will look different if adblock-plus blocks the css file or js file
[12:04] <bilalakhtar> bdrung: cool!
[12:04] <bilalakhtar> it worked
[12:04] <bilalakhtar> !
[12:04] <bilalakhtar> bdrung: How did you know that?
[12:05] <bilalakhtar> I mean, how did you know I used adblock-plus
[12:05] <bdrung> bilalakhtar: because i hat to add an exception for it, too
[12:05] <bdrung> bilalakhtar: because everyone uses adblock-plus ;)
[12:05] <bilalakhtar> :)
[12:06] <hrw> markos_: browsing net without adblock is strange thing ;D
[13:01] <mr_pouit> bdrung: I don't think it was me (I already know what it does ;)
[13:01] <bdrung> mr_pouit: about which package did you talked yesterday?
[13:02] <mr_pouit> mmh, exo I think
[13:13] <m4n1sh> I am trying to create a source package, but debuild -S is giving errors http://debian.pastebin.com/TxeMhuq2
[13:14] <m4n1sh> the initial package worked fine, it started giving problems only after I edited the original source page to add one more section to build a binary package
[13:14] <m4n1sh> dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to zeitgeist-datasources/zeitgeist-dataproviders-0.1.0.tar.gz: binary file contents changed
[13:40] <azeem_> m4n1sh: why is there a tarball inside the source tree?
[13:40] <m4n1sh> azeem_: I did a make distcheck
[13:40] <m4n1sh> to build it
[13:40] <m4n1sh> took it outside
[13:41] <m4n1sh> and then created the debian folder
[13:41] <azeem_> outside is what?
[13:41] <soren> quadrispro: To answer your question from #ubuntu-meeting (just respond whenever you're available to do so):
[13:41] <m4n1sh> azeem_: the orig.tar.g file
[13:42] <m4n1sh> azeem_: after removing that tar file from inside
[13:42] <m4n1sh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/535195/
[13:42] <azeem_> m4n1sh: apparently the tar.gz file is still located in the source tree?
[13:42] <soren> quadrispro: Simple. a) I cannot always attest to a package's correctness on Debian, becuase I happen to run Ubuntu, not Debian. b) There is less resistence in getting stuff into Ubuntu. Faster turnaround => more stuff gets done.
[13:42] <azeem_> m4n1sh: ok, so that one is resolved
[13:42] <m4n1sh> yeah
[13:42] <azeem_> the other problem is the new symlink
[13:42] <m4n1sh> azeem_: do I need to remove all files created by ./autogen.sh ?
[13:43] <azeem_> probably easiest is the remove that one in the clean target, and redo it if necessary for the build
[13:43] <m4n1sh> fine
[13:43] <azeem_> m4n1sh: why do you run autogen.sh during package build?
[13:43] <azeem_> does the upstream tarball not have a full configure script already?
[13:44] <m4n1sh> azeem_: actually I am working with upstream
[13:44] <m4n1sh> so I need to run
[13:44] <m4n1sh> ./confugure
[13:44] <m4n1sh> and then ?
[13:44] <m4n1sh> debuild -S
[13:44] <m4n1sh> ?
[13:44] <azeem_> upstream (you e.g.) should make a tarball relaease
[13:44] <azeem_> release*
[13:44] <m4n1sh> azeem_: did it
[13:45] <azeem_> then you should add the debian/ directory to ti
[13:45] <azeem_> it*
[13:45] <azeem_> if needed, add patches to debian/patches
[13:45] <m4n1sh> means extract it and then add debian/ folder
[13:45] <m4n1sh> right?
[13:45] <azeem_> yeah
[13:45] <m4n1sh> did it
[13:45] <m4n1sh> then ./configure ?
[13:45] <azeem_> ./configure should be run by the debian package build process
[13:46] <m4n1sh> just debuild -S
[13:46] <azeem_> right
[13:47] <m4n1sh> azeem_: works
[13:47] <m4n1sh> :)
[13:47] <m4n1sh> now I need to upload it to PPA and check
[13:48] <quadrispro> soren, 1) well, OK, I run it too. so, I meant: "encourage" contributors, not beat them :)
[13:50] <soren> quadrispro: Your question was "but if the package works fine for Debian and Ubuntu and the delta is not so intrusive, why should we diverge?"
[13:50] <soren> I wouldn't mind at all seeing more packages flow the other way.
[13:50] <ari-tczew> why meeting logs are not updated yet :/
[13:51] <quadrispro> soren, I need to to have shower. I'm very, very interested to discuss about this point, really, but... can we continue later? :)
[13:51] <soren> quadrispro: I'm always around.
[13:52] <quadrispro> soren, even this evening? anyway, I'll ping you soon, ok?
[13:52] <soren> quadrispro: No worries.
[13:53] <soren> quadrispro: I never log off, at least. I may wander off for a while, but if you mention my name, I'll eventually respond.
[14:48] <pavolzetor> hi, I need help with applying patch
[14:50] <pavolzetor> https://code.launchpad.net/~pavolzetor/ubuntu/natty/liferea/liferea-test
[14:50] <pavolzetor> could you look at this?
[14:53] <happyaron> Can someone help me on this build failure? it builds on debian unstable, but not ubuntu natty: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/59448987/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.fcitx_1%3A3.6.4-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:53] <happyaron> fcitx/1:3.6.4-1
[14:55] <ScottK> pavolzetor: If you ask mvo on #ubuntu-devel, I think he is helping people with patches today.
[14:55] <BlackZ> happyaron: it's related to binutils-gold most likely
[14:55] <ari-tczew> happyaron: FTBFS due to DSO linking. Related to binutils-gold in natty. http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking
[14:56] <ari-tczew> happyaron: Add -lXrender to LDFLAGS or LIBS.
[14:56] <BlackZ> happyaron: the correct way would be add that libraries to the gcc call
[14:56] <happyaron> ari-tczew: thanks
[14:57] <happyaron> BlackZ: thank you, too
[14:59] <geser> ari-tczew: adding to LDFLAGS won't work anymore since the --as-needed change as order does matter now (the linked library has to be specified after the object file needing it in the linker call)
[15:00] <ari-tczew> geser: OK, what's the conclusion? Adding to LIBS?
[15:00] <geser> yes
[15:01] <geser> and checking that LIBS is used after the object files
[15:01]  * happyaron confused
[15:01] <ari-tczew> happyaron: Add -lXrender to LIBS.
[15:01] <happyaron> okay
[15:12] <ari-tczew> ogra: for requesting sync, you can use script 'requestsync'
[16:04] <happyaron> ari-tczew: well, it seems not working.
[16:15] <ari-tczew> happyaron: sorry, I can't foretell from the ball
[16:16] <ari-tczew> (show buildlog)
[16:17] <happyaron> /usr/bin/ld: TrayWindow.o: in function DrawTrayWindow:TrayWindow.c:160: error: undefined reference to 'XRenderFreePicture'
[16:17] <happyaron> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[16:18] <ari-tczew> show more log and use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:25] <happyaron> ari-tczew: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535252/
[16:25] <happyaron> thanks
[16:28] <ari-tczew> happyaron: on which release do you building?
[16:28] <ari-tczew> natty?
[16:29] <happyaron> ari-tczew: this log is produced on lucid with binutils-gold installed, if really need to use natty I can try with a ppa
[16:32] <ari-tczew> happyaron: it depends what are you doing
[16:33] <ari-tczew> I'm not expert in fixing FTBFS but it looks for me as upstream problem
[16:33] <ari-tczew> maybe any include is missing
[16:34] <happyaron> thanks for you help. well here is my rules, I don't know whether I've put LIBS in wrong place
[16:34] <happyaron> http://paste.ubuntu.com/535257/
[16:36] <ari-tczew> happyaron: the best solution is add missing flags LIBS to Makefile
[16:36] <happyaron> okay, try now
[16:36] <ari-tczew> adding to debian/rules is workaround
[16:40] <happyaron> ari-tczew: yeah add to Makefile seems to work, so I'll try to patch it. thanks for your help!
[16:40] <ari-tczew> np
[17:38] <tonymoyoy> hi, How can I make a deb packege for ubuntu that shows a screenshot in the ubuntu software center when you are trying to install it ?
[17:40] <m4n1sh> tonymoyoy: I dont think that the deb package has anything to do with the screenshot
[17:40] <m4n1sh> screenshots are stored seperately
[17:41] <bilalakhtar> tonymoyoy: http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/
[17:41] <m4n1sh> http://screenshots.debian.net/
[17:41] <m4n1sh> I think Ubuntu syncs from here
[17:41] <bilalakhtar> m4n1sh: no, Ubuntu operates a separate version at http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/ which syncs from there
[17:41] <bilalakhtar> along with some of its own
[17:42] <m4n1sh> bilalakhtar: I have been trying to build the banshee-community-extensions from the HEAD
[17:42] <tonymoyoy> thanks bilalakhtar
[17:42] <m4n1sh> weird problems
[17:42] <bilalakhtar> m4n1sh: mention itg
[17:42] <bilalakhtar> *it
[17:43] <m4n1sh> the configure part works fine
[17:43] <m4n1sh> and the make distcheck works for most of the people
[17:43] <m4n1sh> Except me :(
[17:43] <bilalakhtar> m4n1sh: install the appropriate lib*-dev package then
[17:43] <m4n1sh> done
[17:44] <m4n1sh> make works
[17:44] <m4n1sh> make distcheck does not
[17:44] <m4n1sh> and it works for everyone else :(
[17:44] <bilalakhtar> Could a UDD user please verify bug #668764 's SRU upload to maverick-proposed? thanks
[17:45] <bilalakhtar> I have been using the package since before the upload and its very much fine
[17:45] <bilalakhtar> could someone else also verify? takes only a minute
[17:45] <bilalakhtar> m4n1sh: could you specify the problem?
[17:46] <m4n1sh> yeah
[17:46] <m4n1sh> giving you the problem
[17:47] <m4n1sh> bilalakhtar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535281/
[17:47] <m4n1sh> do you think it is due to bad build script?
[17:48] <m4n1sh> or do I have to purge the build-deps
[17:48] <m4n1sh> and then try again?
[17:51] <ari-tczew> IMO debian/rules is wrong or upstream issue.
[17:54] <bilalakhtar> m4n1sh: looking now, sorry
[17:54] <m4n1sh> bilalakhtar: you want the git repo?
[17:54] <m4n1sh> git://gitorious.org/banshee-community-extensions/banshee-community-extensions.git
[17:54] <bilalakhtar> thanks
[17:54]  * bilalakhtar clones
[17:54] <m4n1sh> and just do install the basic build-dep
[17:58] <bilalakhtar> chrisccoulson: there? are you working on bug #630383? or can I take it?
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> bilalakhtar, feel free to take it, i didn't get time to look at it yet
[17:58] <bilalakhtar> thanks chrisccoulson
[18:00] <bilalakhtar> m4n1sh: sorry, I don't have the time ATM to look at it
[18:00] <BlackZ> m4n1sh: seems like the "Main.cs" reference is missing in the makefile
[18:01] <m4n1sh> BlackZ: it is present. That is the puzzle
[18:01] <m4n1sh> atleast in Makefile.am it is referenced
[18:02]  * m4n1sh checks again
[18:02] <m4n1sh> yes it is
[18:09] <bcurtiswx> is there a way to tell bzr bd to use more CPU's ?
[18:10] <ebroder> bcurtiswx: There's the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS environment variable: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules-options
[18:10] <ebroder> But it only works if the package supports it (i.e. it's opt-in for the packaging)
[18:30] <quadrispro> soren, what does it mean "less resistence in getting stuff into"? when a package doesn't get accepted by Debian, we should wonder why instead straightly accept it
[18:34] <ari-tczew> I have some odd case. I have patch to fix licenses in upstream files. How should do I resolve this? By patch or apply directly?
[18:34] <quadrispro> (IMHO), this was about the 2nd point. And about the 1st one: using the same software on both Debian and Ubuntu means learning more things about it
[18:34] <BlackZ> ari-tczew: can't upstream just fix that?
[18:35] <ari-tczew> BlackZ: upstream has fixed...
[18:35] <ari-tczew> BlackZ: I'm packing new package.
[18:35] <quadrispro> ari-tczew, if upstream has fixed it in its VCS, it would be better to prepare a new dfsg-clean tarball
[18:35] <ari-tczew> and I have prepared stable release. Upstream has fixed in trunk.
[18:36] <BlackZ> ari-tczew: what quadrispro said :)
[18:36] <quadrispro> ari-tczew, get the sources from upstream's trunk
[18:37] <quadrispro> if he introduces something that you consider wrong/broken/experimental, and you want to exclude that
[18:38] <quadrispro> you could strip out it by patching the sources
[18:38] <ari-tczew> quadrispro: his trunk is FTBFS, start from this case
[18:40] <quadrispro> ari-tczew, take a deep look at the differences between the latest release tarball and the trunk and try to catch the issue
[18:40] <ari-tczew> quadrispro: bintuils gold :)
[18:40] <quadrispro> ari-tczew, arghh! :)
[18:41] <quadrispro> usually they are linking order-related
[18:46] <ari-tczew> quadrispro: could you take a look on bug 313570 ? guy has noticed that patch is broken, you are a merger
[18:46] <ari-tczew> quadrispro: ah, sorry, BlackZ is
[18:46] <ari-tczew> you are the first uploader :)
[18:47] <quadrispro> ari-tczew, sorry but having busy time now. BlackZ, could you take a look?
[18:49] <BlackZ> quadrispro: will do
[18:49] <micahg> quadrispro: congrats on becoming core-dev
[18:50] <quadrispro> thank you micahg !
[19:06] <hrw> hmm. I need to update wiki and finally start process ;D
[19:08] <ari-tczew> hrw: maybe MOTU first?
[19:08] <hrw> ari-tczew: process to get some kind of level - not core one in 2010 ;D
[19:09] <hrw> ari-tczew: but for tomorrow I already have listed "go to #bzr and find out why LP shows conflicts in my merge requests"
[19:10] <ari-tczew> aha
[19:10] <ari-tczew> hrw: IIRC you work for Ubuntu if you got a money.
[19:10] <hrw> and once found I will have to rebase/resubmit etc 3 packages
[19:10] <hrw> ari-tczew: not quite. I also use ubuntu
[19:11] <hrw> ari-tczew: today worked on fixing byobu bug which occured on my hw and it was not related to my work.
[19:11] <hrw> ari-tczew: also working a bit on efikamx smartbook support things
[19:12] <micahg> hrw: so, you're interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer?
[19:12] <hrw> micahg: thats the plan
[19:13] <micahg> hrw: have you seen this yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[19:13] <hrw> micahg: if I would not buy linuxpda in 2004 I would probably be ubuntu-by-debian developer already
[19:13] <ari-tczew> hrw: start merging with Debian :)
[19:14] <hrw> micahg: need to find where do I have my page
[19:15] <micahg> hrw: where *to* put it, or where *did* you put it?
[19:15] <hrw> micahg: did
[19:15] <micahg> ah
[19:15] <hrw> moinmoin never was my favorite so I have problems with it sometimes
[19:16] <hrw> found
[19:16] <hrw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcinJuszkiewicz/DeveloperApplicationForUniverseContributer
[19:17] <hrw> bookmarked this time
[19:19] <kklimonda> so, how is your involvment with the Polish LoCo? ;)
[19:19]  * kklimonda whistles and goes away for a beer
[19:19] <kklimonda> good night
[19:20] <ari-tczew> enjoy kklimonda
[19:20] <ari-tczew> hrw: s/Contributer/Contributor
[19:20] <hrw> kklimonda: you asked 3rd time for it and during uds-n we had discussion that there is no such thing as PL Loco
[19:20] <kklimonda> hrw: ah, ust kidding :)
[19:20] <hrw> ari-tczew: right
[19:20] <kklimonda> even just :)
[19:21] <hrw> kklimonda: prefer to mention it when others are listening
[19:21] <hrw> ;D
[19:21] <ari-tczew> lol 3 Polish talking in english :/
[19:21] <hrw> ari-tczew: you are suprised?
[19:21] <ari-tczew> hrw: no, just odd feel
[19:21] <ari-tczew> :P
[19:22] <hrw> ari-tczew: I had situations when I changed pl<>en few times in one discussion (live)
[19:22] <ari-tczew> aha heh
[19:22] <hrw> ari-tczew: but it sounded weird when it occured in a middle of sentence
[19:22] <akoskm> hi
[19:25] <hrw> ari-tczew: suggestions/opinions on that wiki page?
[19:25] <micahg> hrw: that's a nice list of stuff, are you looking for endorsements?
[19:25] <hrw> micahg: will ask people for them in next days
[19:26] <micahg> hrw: ok, next meeting is in 2 weeks :)
[19:26] <ari-tczew> hrw: my suggestion is to show your expierence, knowledge and involvement
[19:26] <micahg> hrw: I'll be happy to review it later
[19:26] <hrw> micahg: mkey, thx
[19:27] <ari-tczew> hrw: I couldn't give you endorsement, I don't have anything sponsored for you or any expierence in cooperate with you.
[19:27] <hrw> ari-tczew: I asked for opinion/suggestion not endorsement
[19:28] <ari-tczew> hrw: so I don't have suggestions for you. I don't like to read on wiki election promises.
[19:29] <hrw> ari-tczew: ok
[19:29] <akoskm> I'm trying to package qtjambi for Ubuntu. I listed phonon-backend-gstreamer as dependency but pbuilder says that there are unmet depends. because phonon-backend-gstreamer is a virtual package. here the pbuilder output: http://pastebin.com/c2fK8ppQ
[19:30] <hrw> akoskm: use "virtual | real" for deps
[19:30] <hrw> or "real | virtual" order - but you have to suggest some existing package
[19:31] <akoskm> this is the only package which contains the file what I need
[19:31] <akoskm> I need to add these options to pbuilder?
[19:31] <hrw> to debian/control build-depends
[19:31] <akoskm> or inside the control file
[19:32] <hrw> akoskm: for example my package depends on "linux-source-2.6.37 | linux-source-2.6" (with versioning inside) because 2.6.37 is in natty but in theory any >2.6.35-something can work
[19:32] <hrw> or linux-ti-omap4-source if exists etc
[19:33] <akoskm> I see, but how do I figure out which one is the real package?
[19:36]  * hrw has no idea - phonon-backend-gstreamer contains real files so for me it is not virtual
[19:37] <akoskm> yep, for me too thats the problem, but pbuilder states that its virtual
[19:37]  * hrw needs to go - feed the daughter
[19:37] <hrw|gone> thx for help guys
[19:38] <akoskm> thank you hrw
[19:39] <BlackZ> akoskm: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html (7.5 Virtual packages - Provides)
[19:53] <akoskm> BlackZ, thx
[20:16] <akoskm> BlackZ, what to do if actually phonon-backend-gstreamer is a real package, and when I list as dependency its getting handled as virtual?
[20:18] <akoskm> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/i386/phonon-backend-gstreamer/4:4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1
[20:18] <BlackZ> akoskm: do you need it for gstreamer0.10-plugins-good and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?
[20:19] <akoskm> BlackZ, no. I should list it because it provides the file "phonon_gstreamer.so" required for qjambi building
[20:21] <akoskm> here is pbuilder's log: http://pastebin.com/c2fK8ppQ, somewhere at the end it says that the given package is virtual, but it isn't
[20:44] <soren> quadrispro: I'm not looking for more stuff to learn. I'm trying to get stuff done.
[20:44] <soren> quadrispro: "less resistence": I can just upload stuff to Ubuntu at will. In Debian, I have to wait for a sponsor and whatnot.
[21:16] <highvoltage> maco: hey, have you tried gally on natty recently?
[21:34] <akoskm> pbuilder still states that phonon-backend-gstreamer is a virtual package, and it wont let me to build the package, does anybody have an idea how can I avoid this?
[22:37] <magn3ts> Who should I contact about fixing the wubi page: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[22:39] <maco> highvoltage: i havent upgraded to natty
[22:40] <Pici> magn3ts: File a bug under the ubuntu-website project.
[22:43] <magn3ts> Pici, okay. seems rather glaring IMO :P
[23:00] <quadrispro> you, me, devs can upload, anyone else cannot. In Ubuntu there is a sponsorship process, too
[23:07] <soren> quadrispro: Was that for me?
[23:08] <quadrispro> soren, yes, it was :) (continue) of course policies and workflows are different, but stuff get done anyway (anywhere). The point was: mutual understanding would mean more collaboration. I don't want to state anything like: "Ubuntu should should be more like Debian"
[23:08] <soren> quadrispro: I know we have a sponsorship process too. I used to have to deal with it. Now I don't. So getting stuff into Debian is orders of magnitude more complicated. I'm working on a elaborate flowchart that will make the hilarity of this nonsense obvious.
[23:11] <quadrispro> soren, you say right, anyway an Ubuntu-powered user could help Debian to improve and viceversa
[23:12] <soren> quadrispro: Of course. An an Ubuntu-powered user could help Fedora, too.
[23:12] <soren> quadrispro: Really.
[23:12] <soren> quadrispro: The vast majority of the code in Ubuntu is shared by most other distros.
[23:13] <quadrispro> indeed it is, but Ubuntu doesnt derive from Fedora
[23:13] <soren> quadrispro: I never said it did.
[23:14] <soren> quadrispro: I just question the notion that spending time fixing same bug in three different places is necessarily better than fixing three bugs in one place.
[23:15] <soren> quadrispro: Three places: Ubuntu, Debian, and upstream.
[23:18] <quadrispro> soren, agreed, sure. I think just the following: an Ubuntu contributor who knows well Debian could work better on Ubuntu. That's it
[23:19] <quadrispro> then, we should keep differences alive, be different is great
[23:20] <soren> quadrispro: Ah, I see.
[23:22] <quadrispro> we agree on more points than anyone may think :)
[23:24] <soren> :)
[23:42] <quadrispro> leaving
[23:44] <quadrispro> soren, it's been a pleasure, see you soon!
[23:44] <soren> quadrispro: o/
[23:46] <quadrispro> bye!


[18:19] <DelphiWorld> salam
[19:22] <DelphiWorld> salam ounis
[19:22] <ounis> wa alaikom assalam wa rahmat allah wa barakatoh
[19:22] <ounis> sup DelphiWorld
[19:23] <DelphiWorld> ounis: je vien de départé de tunis ;-)
[19:23] <ounis> you were in here and din't tell us!
[19:24] <ounis> what good fate bring you in here :)
[19:30] <DelphiWorld> ounis: i meet with neo
[19:30] <ounis> that's cool
[19:30] <ounis> and why you left so early DelphiWorld ?
[19:30] <DelphiWorld> ounis: works my brother
[19:30] <DelphiWorld> i has a visit to zitouna radio
[19:31] <ounis> ah good
[19:31] <DelphiWorld> ounis: they are a very good people
[19:31]  * DelphiWorld slaps Tux-Tn around a bit with a large trout
[19:31] <ounis> what did you do in there?
[19:32] <DelphiWorld> ounis: i requested a rebroadcast permition
[19:32] <DelphiWorld> to be able to rebroadcast it overnight in my radio
[19:33] <ounis> ok
[19:33] <ounis> what is your radio?
[19:35] <DelphiWorld> ounis: http://www.vobradio.org/
[21:34] <mezen> salut
[21:38] <ounis> hey mezen
[21:38] <mezen> salam ounis
[21:38] <ounis> wa alaikom assalam wa rahmat allah wa barakatoh


[06:47] <ForTheWin> hi, my monitor is supposed to be on 1600x900, i was on mint xfce i wiped and installed lubuntu and my monitor is stuck at 1024, help please. I have updated my nvidia driver to the exact same version
[15:58] <Missing1600reso> hi, can someone help me please?
[16:01] <leszek> Missing1600reso: just ask your question and we'll see if someone knows an answer
[16:03] <Missing1600reso> after a fresh install i had the correct reso, but after doing the updates my pc restarted and now i only have 1024 reso. Help please
[16:05] <leszek> please give more details which graphicscard ? which drivers ? and which update caused this issue ?
[16:06] <Missing1600reso> nvidia 304 driver, for my geforce 6150se
[16:09] <leszek> did you tried reinstalling the driver. Seems like the update maybe overwritten the driver or installed or uses the nouveau instead
[16:10] <leszek> you can do so in the driver manager
[16:10] <Missing1600reso> leszek: synaptic, mark for reinstall?
[16:11] <leszek> Missing1600reso: yeah you can also do that
[16:11] <Missing1600reso> leszek: i already tried driver manager reapplying. So synaptic i will try now, thank you
[17:24] <travnewmatic> stillll need some grub help :( http://pastebin.com/a9WWdSSA
[17:27] <ForTheWin> hi
[17:27] <ForTheWin> Is there a Power Manager?
[17:27] <ForTheWin> I would like my pc to sleep after 20 minutes
[17:27] <Unit193> xfce4-power-manager is the one used.
[17:27] <ForTheWin> from synaptic?
[17:28] <Unit193> It's already installed.  You can install the panel plugin for lxpanel though.
[17:28] <Unit193> Erm, well the panel plugin, if using 14.10
[17:32] <ForTheWin> Unit193: thank yo
[17:32] <Unit193> Sure.
[17:37] <ForTheWin> what do you think of TLP? http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html
[17:40] <Unit193> N: Unable to locate package tlp  not used it, and won't. :P
[17:49] <choki> When will LXQt comes by default with lubuntu?
[17:49] <choki> 15.10?
[17:50] <Unit193> Perhaps.
[17:52] <ForTheWin> wouldnt lxqt end up being not as fast as lxde? The whole point of lxde is speed
[20:32] <That> whats my nic?
[20:33] <That> that works, Hey guys is anyone on?
[20:37] <That> I'll just ask, I have an old as laptop and when i installed Lubuntu the last time i had this error and i had to get another version because of missing cpu support or something and i dont remember what it was. any clue what im talking about?
[20:37] <Unit193> PAE not being supported?
[20:37] <Unit193> You can try  forcepae if you have a pentium M.
[20:37] <That> in reinstalling because i cannot interupt start up
[20:37] <That> PAE thats it
[20:37] <That> i dont its a celleron or something
[20:38] <That> sorry, im watching a NDT video. Its an old IBM thinkpad with a centrino
[20:41] <That> Hey thanks. im grabbing a new copy of the ISO i should have kept around right now. i will leave you guys to your silence


[00:00] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[00:43] <razGon_> 오늘도 더운 제주 입니다.
[00:43] <razGon_> 넘 덥네요
[00:55] <Seony> 안녕하세요 라즈곤님 오랫만에 뵙네요
[04:58] <razGon_> Seony: 안녕하세요?
[04:58] <razGon_> 반갑습니다.
[04:58] <razGon_> 덥네요
[06:46] <razGon_> 아.. 덥고 끈적해서 멘탈이...ㅠㅠ
[08:03] <razGon_> 오늘도 멍하니 지내다가 가버리네요..
[08:04] <razGon_> 클라우드 컴퓨팅도 윈도우로  올려서 가능하지요?
[08:05] <SIMPLISM> 라이센스때문에 비용이 리눅스보다 비싸서 글지... 사용 가능합니다.
[08:06] <SIMPLISM> 아마존 라이트세일 기준으로 제일 싼 요금제가... 리눅스는 3.5달러인데, 윈도우는 지금 보니까 8달러네요
[19:47] <foxmask> o/
[19:50] <foxmask> First of all Sorry to speak english but I'm looking for help on using a virtual keyboard to be able to see a (virtual) korean keyboard when I switch from my native language to the korean one. any tips to share ?
[19:51] <foxmask> actually when I switch to Hangul, the virtual keyboard displays qwerty
[19:52] <foxmask> 감사합니다
[20:44] <Seony> foxmask: meaning a popup virtual keyboard?
[20:47] <Seony> so basically you need to add/install the korean keyboard from Setting -> Language Support.
[20:51] <Seony> it looks like the menu is on the Regional & Language.  Add an input source, Korean (Hangul).  And then you can enable the virtual keyboard called "On-screen keyboard", Settings -> Universal Access -> Screen Keyboard in the Typing section.
[20:51] <Seony> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-osk.html.en
[20:55] <foxmask> Seony: I already did all of that :( and all i have is a qwerty keyboard :( and when trying to click on the flag key on the screen keyboard the keyboard disapears
[20:55] <Seony> is it 18.04?
[20:56] <foxmask> yes
[20:56] <foxmask> all i could see about OnBoard ; the korean layout is not supported
[20:57] <Seony> oh... that's too bad... so ubuntu doesn't support the korean on-screen keyboard.
[20:57] <foxmask> it seems yes
[20:57] <Seony> how about getting a korean keyboard sticker?
[20:58] <Seony> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002DQJ7N0
[20:58] <foxmask> I can enter korean text by guessing where the key are for each characters
[20:58] <foxmask> Yes I thought about sitckers too :)
[20:58] <Seony> even korean people living abroad countries use this :)
[20:58] <foxmask> I can imagine :)
[20:59] <foxmask> more convenient and less tricky
[20:59] <Seony> yup
[20:59] <foxmask> so thank you and sorry for the english noise I made
[20:59] <Seony> no problem
[20:59] <Seony> no worry speaking english here.
[21:00] <foxmask> nice :)
[21:00] <foxmask> i'll stay to read korean so :)
[21:00] <foxmask> i'll learn
[21:00] <Seony> does o/ mean "Hi"?
[21:00] <foxmask> yes
[21:00] <foxmask> it's an arm raised
[21:00] <foxmask> near a head
[21:01] <foxmask> o = head
[21:01] <foxmask>  / = aarm
[21:01] <Seony> i was a quite surprised because i'm an eve online player, we use that symbol.
[21:01] <Seony> mostly o7
[21:01] <foxmask> my favorite is a clown
[21:01] <foxmask> *<:o)
[21:02] <Seony> ah i see.  so it's kinda global emoticons
[21:02] <foxmask> yeah
[21:03] <Seony> i've been a babe in the woods :)
[21:03] <foxmask> :D


[18:31] <_MMA_> * Initial packaging for Breathe added to Launchpad.
[18:36] <_MMA_> thorwil: Is the "trivet" one fiberglass?
[18:57] <mgariepy> hi, I need to change the icon of text/x-uri files but i can't find the way to do it can someone help ?
[19:00] <andreasn> mgariepy, put the new icon in the folder .icons/nameofyourtheme/$size/mimetypes
[19:01] <_MMA_> mgariepy: I gotta head out but just take that and look at how other like files are named. I /think/ that's all you'll need. Something like text-x-uri.png/svg
[19:01] <andreasn> and name it text-x-generic
[19:05] <mgariepy> _MMA_, the file like x-uri, are displaying a preview of the text in the icon.
[19:05] <mgariepy> i did try to change icon with :: assogiate :: but it's doesn't seam to work.
[19:11] <thorwil> _MMA_: wood
[19:12] <thorwil> scratched and partly burned
[19:14] <_MMA_> thorwil: *Highly* scratched. Is it a desk?
[19:15] <_MMA_> s/is/was
[19:16] <thorwil> _MMA_: no, it still is a thing you place hot pots on
[19:17] <thorwil> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/assets/product_images/380/7383214938826P.JPG
[19:18] <thorwil> a bit like that, sans hole
[19:29] <dashua> _MMA_: I had to change libmagick9-dev in control to libmagickwand-dev for Breathe to build on Jaunty.
[19:29] <dashua> Built fine.
[19:38] <_MMA_> dashua: Ok. I'm building on Intrepid atm. Really though, the package needs some polish. Thanx for the note though.
[19:39] <dashua> Np.  After that, no problems.
[19:40] <_MMA_> dashua: I'll most likely have a couple more revisions before the night is through. I'm currently reviewing all the symlinks. Gotta add the AUTHORS and other little details like that.
[19:41] <dashua> Ok cool.   Nice to finally have a package.
[19:42] <dashua> Hr, this Impression theme has some potential, but there is a lot of code in the gtkrc.
[20:21] <_MMA_> dashua: Grab rev.3 and build without your tweak. I think I got it working for Intrepid/Jaunty.
[20:21] <dashua> Ok
[20:22] <_MMA_> dashua: I just did: libmagick9-dev (>= 5.5.7) | libmagickwand-dev Hopefully I don't need to specify a version.
[20:23] <dashua> Yeah, that's all I added
[20:23] <dashua> One sec.
[20:23] <_MMA_> Man. I gotta get the archive icons in place. :P
[20:24] <dashua> Looking good.
[20:25] <dashua> Power options still being worked out?
[20:25] <_MMA_> Yep
[20:25] <dashua> Nice.
[20:26] <dashua> Yep.  Built and packaged fine.
[20:26] <_MMA_> Killerl. Now to work out some things in trunk.
[21:06] <_MMA_> dashua: I might stop doing the symlinks in trunk in favor of pointing people to the packaging branch.
[21:27] <dashua> Yeah. That should work.
[21:30] <_MMA_> dashua: Ok. I'll do it sometime this week.
[21:33] <dashua> Awesome.
[21:33] <dashua> I'm trying to learn the technical details to packaging.  Once mastered, maybe I can help out.
[21:33] <_MMA_> After I get the power icons in. :)
[21:34] <dashua> Right now, I'm enjoying hacking on gtkrc's
[21:34] <_MMA_> :)
[21:35] <_MMA_> Atm, the Breathe packages is based off the Studio icon set. So I'm pretty familiar with it. It's just about done. From here on out, there should be nothing but little tweaks here and there.
[21:35] <_MMA_> brb
[21:38] <dashua> kk
[22:30] <SealV> I am bored
[22:31] <_MMA_> SealV: You could always install Lenny. ;)
[22:32] <SealV> :) already running it as a triple boot
[22:33] <_MMA_> SealV: Nothing really compelling about it for me.
[22:34] <_MMA_> Worked well enough.
[22:34] <SealV> debian rarely does compelling, but I did have a small mail server running on it for 340 days
[22:36] <_MMA_> I got mine on Hardy. Been fine. Things tend to only break for me when I start tinkering. ;)
[22:38] <SealV> yes like today where a key got stuck and I somehow ended up deleting most of my .x files in my home directory... I am still trying to figure out what happened there...
[22:39] <dashua> Ok, got 1400 + lines of code down to 400.  Just have to run it by the author.
[22:39] <dashua> https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/566470/Impression.tar.gz
[22:39] <dashua> Looks pretty nice.
[22:39] <SiDi> About Impression's wallpaper, how is it rendering ?
[22:40] <SiDi> The screenshots on the wiki are really weird
[22:40] <dashua> Not sure.  I'm using this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/SomeJauntyBackgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Jaunty2.jpg
[22:41] <SiDi> weei nice
[22:41] <SiDi> i didnt notice this one
[22:41] <dashua> I'm sure I cut something off in the code, but nothing that is obviously apparent.
[22:43] <dashua> I made a few modifications as well.
[22:44] <dashua> https://dl-web.getdropbox.com/get/Photos/Screenshot.png?w=4f4fb216
[22:44] <dashua> Not bad.
[22:45] <SiDi> err 403 =)
[22:46] <dashua> https://dl-web.getdropbox.com/get/Photos/Screenshot.png?w=4f4fb216
[22:46] <dashua> Nothing?
[22:48] <SealV> 403
[22:48] <SiDi> i dl'd impression.tar.gz and i think it wont let me dl 2 things without logging
[22:48] <SiDi> and i'm in 800x600 cause playing baldurs gate now, too :(
[22:49] <SiDi> imageshack.us tbh
[23:16] <SealV> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/323061
[23:16] <SealV> it says fix released/ how do I get it?
[23:18] <SealV> especially since the nightly package doesn't seem to be updated


[00:38] <Aaaaand5> (note: this exact same issue makes the very last exercise in Baby Rudin wrong, too)
[00:38] <Aaaaand5> not all of them, nor any software issues
[00:38] <Aaaaand5> because next step is to copy both rpm to dom0.
[00:39] <Aaaaand5> the source mage-config is called from mage-sync script
[00:39] <Aaaaand5> scrolling up I can see it is just a VM and not on an actual production subnet of any importance
[00:47] <sentriz10> but most people dont realise how quickly the shunt will wear out, often after a single event
[00:47] <sentriz10> or you can put a proxy in the network having access to internet and tell the remote network clients to use that proxy
[00:47] <sentriz10> ok, from that point, do you remember the last time they worked?
[00:47] <sentriz10> blackk: I've also recently read http://users.speakeasy.net/~lion/nb/ and http://augmentingcognition.com/ltm.html
[00:48] <sentriz10> Is it possible to run a command without having it impact anything on the system? I want to see what is being piped through in a command such as this without installing anything: `apt-get install -s patroni | sed -n -e '/^Inst patroni /d' -e 's/^Inst \([^ ]\+\) .*$/\1/p' \ | xargs apt-get install -y curl jq haproxy locales python3-etcd python3-kazoo` In this case, I'm not great at the regex and think the
[00:48] <sentriz10> jose_zap: I would like to contribute to cool open source projects with some traction (ie with at least some haskellers working on it)
[00:54] <ddurst27> you're just linking or did extra steps to import plugins ?
[00:54] <ddurst27> contyk: Merely that if we had support for that in DNF, the current issue would not have happened :)
[00:54] <ddurst27> Missed "of the matrix M" part
[00:54] <ddurst27> there are many more much harder details that need dealing with so I'm just going to go with what people seem to think, which is to take it out
[00:55] <ddurst27> It's just weird since zero modifications were made in the
[00:55] <Savemech20> the cost of a CD ROM would be higher than the extra cost of the chip - another thing to consider.  "install these drivers" - support call, I don't know what a CD is
[00:55] <Savemech20> check this out: https://pastebin.com/7iqtjnnj
[00:59] <stfn20> Soliton: there's no set option to fail on such errors?
[00:59] <stfn20> (in all fairness again, tesla is not a good reference for SD engineering)
[00:59] <stfn20> Chetic: .2 will arrive after 18.10
[00:59] <stfn20> whats the point of having so many?
[00:59] <stfn20> KipperedSnack, to use multiple GPU units.
[01:00] <stfn20> there's no people in korea... only ubermensch
[01:54] <maddawg27> anyway i can default all audio to my bluetooth connection
[01:54] <maddawg27> I think according to this assignment I will only ever get a char in each spot of the array
[01:55] <maddawg27> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passed_pawn
[01:55] <maddawg27> your second table would have 80krows, you could join it against the first any time you need. it's a bit grump-inducing unless there are other fields that can reasonably go into the new table alongside the macaddr though
[01:55] <maddawg27> dionysus69: if it's bigint then you have about 29 billion years before it runs out
[01:55] <maddawg27> looks like a lot of 3d girls are being abducted
[01:59] <DylanJ27> Launchpad bug 1765363 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "prime-select intel is not powering off the nvidia card" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[01:59] <DylanJ27> what are you going to use it for?
[02:26] <chuck> courrier: you can be a usb-generic device for which a specific driver only knows how to talk to
[02:26] <chuck> no xhe went abroad for it
[02:26] <chuck> : ))))))))))
[02:26] <chuck> nolyc: thanks
[02:26] <chuck> If you're limited to a single OS, you'll probably be ok
[02:49] <dynek13> fnurglewitz: that way doesn't exactly makes sense, yes. you would have wanted the bar in commandline mode, but you say it's interactive?
[02:49] <dynek13> bleh.  try #cs or #programming for such.
[02:50] <dynek13> lastly, does anyone consider actors an antipattern? Theyre kinda like objects and maintain their own state
[02:50] <dynek13> I will create one and try again ...
[02:50] <dynek13> did you fix the sumo agent?
[04:32] <kiska322> yashi: no
[04:32] <kiska322> I'm not sure, sorry
[05:21] <sqram> i;ve also figured out how to make it run daily (cron)
[05:21] <sqram> capacitor: he seems to be a russian immigrant, but that doesn't mean I understand his quiks.
[06:08] <SailorHaumea4> The option isn't in the audio settings.
[06:08] <SailorHaumea4> Where is cpctr?
[06:42] <hark> nai: a.c b.c c.c
[06:42] <hark> phew
[06:42] <hark> It must be OpenVPN compatible. I do not get to choose that in this case.  But I will make a note about wireguard.
[06:42] <hark> you mean c7h?
[06:42] <hark> oh nvm.. Hom(M(+)M, M(+)M) gives you four copies of Hom(M,M) :/
[06:42] <hark> (and then the CRT splits it in the program)
[06:50] <DerGuteMoritz13> eric^^ because it failed installation during a fresh install of lubuntu 18.04 it crashed during i386-efi platform
[06:50] <DerGuteMoritz13> and why won't it be evaluated?
[06:50] <DerGuteMoritz13> and i yell about it
[06:51] <DerGuteMoritz13> this is just the sum of 1D sine waves at different angles
[06:51] <DerGuteMoritz13> That AT200 '.cn' plane is actually a nz built PAC750, modified.
[06:51] <DerGuteMoritz13> im below average skill in linux
[07:09] <DrMacinyasha> *because.
[07:09] <DrMacinyasha> what is an orcid?
[07:12] <|darc|13> well, we only support ubuntu here
[07:12] <|darc|13> ARM is fine if you want to stay at the "Arduino level" and just have a more powerful chip available. but if you want to start interacting with the hardware directly, the AVR is much less intimidating
[07:12] <|darc|13> rooftopjoe: no, pulseaudiuo --kill ; pulseaudio --start
[07:12] <|darc|13> delicious
[07:12] <|darc|13> when I first read you comment I thought you were describing Go, not haskell :P
[07:23] <LRX26> specific question:-  so i was working through rolling a parser myself (figuring out for myself how to write suhc a thing in haskell)
[07:23] <LRX26> not that you mention that, the HEC is pretty limiting.
[07:23] <LRX26> Oh wow. Considerably fast.
[07:23] <LRX26> it will literally try \200 otherwise
[07:23] <LRX26> reason why i keep asking ppl about stickyness w/cwm is, that allowing "sticky no" means adding cool features for sticky is rly hard/impossible..
[07:27] <r0kc4t> sounds like "Accelerated C++: Practical Programming by Example" followed by "Effective Modern C++" might suit her
[07:27] <r0kc4t> ocеаns arᥱ not dοiᥒg Allaһ іѕ doiᥒɡ
[07:27] <r0kc4t> `Guest00000: Presumably you want an invariant that this function takes one cell that has the character and one that doesn't, and returns one that has the character and one that doesn't (probably in the other order).
[07:45] <Elec_A> Then you'd end up with inspect(a[5], a[5].whatever(), a[5].whatever().c) right?  Sometimes I can't detect sarcasm
[07:53] <swoup18> Cyberglo, b/c is annoying.
[08:04] <omahn1> suvdev: all that does afaik is set http_proxy and https_proxy in the environment. Applications are free to ignore those.
[08:04] <omahn1> Tentacles: you're welcome
[09:11] <crisiskingWX> i'm just not sure what the "scalar" product is in this case
[09:11] <crisiskingWX> so that's causing that message
[09:11] <crisiskingWX> that doesn't mean it was nonstandard
[10:25] <bay-max> if you need to do it using only POSIX tools, find . -type f -exec grep blabla /dev/null {} +
[10:25] <bay-max> there are plenty of blind lawyers
[10:25] <bay-max> o]: nah, it's more like nobody being at the tesla store and going to whole foods'
[10:25] <bay-max> FPÖ is not helping :)
[10:25] <bay-max> I am using Redhat RHEL Server.   My account SHELL is set to /bin/sh. which is a symbolic link to /bin/bash.   However my .bashrc is not getting executed during login.  I am missing something.
[10:52] <rharrisondh> sveinse: ok, then fast-export is not the tool
[10:52] <rharrisondh> Why make it complex?
[11:17] <LamperiAA> Duvaun ?
[11:17] <LamperiAA> coz_: talking to a bot?
[11:18] <FruitTZ> you'll need to make them all do one or the other.
[11:18] <FruitTZ> qwebirc95665: if the live usb does not boot, try pressing "F12" as soon as the PC starts, (spam it) then try various entries blindly
[11:18] <FruitTZ> https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/artful/labyrinth ?
[12:00] <Guest48585> DiscoDynamite: however, that enabled me to evaluate the literal script content myself
[12:01] <Guest48585> rsully: the old robot recommended that you not make typedef's of pointers-to-things
[12:12] <rhg135QN> 2.11 I read, so you are on 18.04
[12:12] <rhg135QN> ChaiTRex: Then just use [] then safeHead?
[12:12] <rhg135QN> Just care what the container overall listens on
[12:20] <thrasibule_> where is the best place to put socket files?
[12:21] <thrasibule_> Handy for when I'm editing anything vaguely tabular.
[12:21] <thrasibule_> then again, I would need to RTFM to be sure ... and I don't care enough
[12:21] <thrasibule_> I'm using HTTPS, and the variable export did not encourage verbosity
[13:09] <tewardLo> I didnt know that set hidden still saves the undo
[13:09] <tewardLo> in fact they do
[13:09] <tewardLo> IP government controlled v6
[13:09] <tewardLo> The accented character issue may have even be a PDF with wrong metadata, and not Okular's fault even.
[13:23] <seprOe> lenny_lemon: i was hoping you'd have this efi boot code which i think also spawns the uefi configuration utility.
[13:23] <seprOe> it includes 'A', which is different
[13:23] <seprOe> data is data and the compiler doesn't care what *you* think it is. it's your responsibility to present it in the correct format to an end user
[13:57] <maege-> blackflow, ok.. seems pretty straight forward. tomreyn suggested I make a backup archive of /etc too for reference or something.. what do I do with that?
[13:57] <maege-> if it makes you feel any better
[15:01] <ExorcisEri> it was what used to make the difference between apple and intel.
[15:01] <ExorcisEri> I'm just going to check if another instance of the script is running with `pgrep`
[15:02] <ExorcisEri> You can first multiply the fractions and then simplify it
[15:02] <ExorcisEri> for friends to see like shame comment subscribe
[15:02] <ExorcisEri> SuperSonicSound: Read up Taylor's theorem
[15:02] <ExorcisEri> redsh: copy/pasta instead of making shared libs is a common way to get high locs
[15:05] <WelcomenU> compared to say python, the amount of unit testing I feel is necessary is tiny. but they're still a nice tool to have on your belt.
[15:05] <WelcomenU> memset(stuff, 0, (sizeof(int) * 1000))
[15:05] <WelcomenU> ysch: yeah that makes sense. I've figured out that it  decides whether to hit the index based on given value in where clause. If there are less rows with given value it does bitmap heap scan, instead. Thanks.
[15:34] <tranevy> Silmarlion_, i'm just finding out about https://screencloud.net
[15:34] <tranevy> why did you install grub using boot repair? you already had grub installed?
[15:34] <tranevy> bibble says dont eat apple - apple means propagation
[15:35] <tranevy> [<IP_ADDRESS> (IT - netname: ADSL-NORTH-VERONA-62)
[15:51] <dalcde_Gm> gw
[15:51] <dalcde_Gm> 「SHA256 Hash Generator Online」
[15:51] <dalcde_Gm> jcdutton, guess it depends on which DE
[15:51] <dalcde_Gm> https://talkpython.fm/ SeepingN here
[15:51] <dalcde_Gm> *DEFAULT
[15:51] <dalcde_Gm> If I were to downmix this with ffmpeg, is it merely a matter of specifying '-ac 2', or would something more complicated be required?
[16:04] <hypercore> hm sure, i guess so then. assuming you're not using fromJust but giving a proper error message
[16:04] <hypercore> but the loop executed in the current shell
[16:13] <LatrinabR> cbreak,   git clone ...  --branch   chopped  chopped_repo.   Can I push -v /tmp/chopped_repo  chopped ?
[16:13] <LatrinabR> :shrugs:
[16:13] <LatrinabR> hmm. Seems there is a new arduino-linux-setup.sh script in the 1.8.6 archive, in addition to install.sh And i don't really like its content to be honest.
[16:13] <LatrinabR> i need to convert *.hello.***************.txt.123 to *.123
[16:24] <kosmikusqN> Still I can not do it. What is the proper way of doing this ?
[16:24] <kosmikusqN> That makes me sad.
[16:46] <LantiziadT> you mean we could remap the cqueues function to sock:receive()
[16:47] <LantiziadT> and trashed my own svn copy
[16:47] <LantiziadT> ubuntu kernel 4.18.3-041803-lowlatency spectre, meltdown and foreshadow mitigation: https://imgur.com/a/D9974SU
[16:47] <LantiziadT> that just tells me you have no professional work experience at all
[17:09] <naser> people of course will talk
[17:09] <naser> imagine the breakage
[17:09] <naser> hexdump prints line numbers and whatnot
[17:09] <naser> so; fucking expensive
[19:29] <casualjim> which also has a nrf24
[19:29] <casualjim> Sterile, ah
[19:29] <casualjim> what do you think about that?
[19:43] <lilwizqX> drager, I just started working on this https://gitlab.com/dylnmc/viman s'a'work in progress
[19:43] <lilwizqX> there is also an external test (aka [) command, but one rarely calls it
[19:43] <lilwizqX> I know Linux, I can answer my question if it were about Linux
[19:44] <lilwizqX> bart416: you mean UPSs?
[19:44] <lilwizqX> but I have another script that checks the amount of lines read vs amount of LINES and outputs to less or terminal depending on if it is larger or less
[19:44] <lilwizqX> so it is just AND on the vertices, except you also need to generate new vertices at the intersections
[20:24] <Bryansteinpl> switch forwards to router's mac, router wraps its with the layer 3 header no?
[20:24] <Bryansteinpl> dila depends what you're doing.....
[20:24] <Bryansteinpl> which dist is this?
[20:24] <Bryansteinpl> i keep actual package lists in their own files, then reuse those as needed, no need to dupe
[20:24] <Bryansteinpl> different generation of women
[21:03] <Hygiea> or did you mean in ctrl+alt+del?
[21:04] <Hygiea> An IORef suffices for that.
[21:04] <Hygiea> the fact that you think an editor is required is telling
[21:50] <Deathrattle> bearretinjapan has the 2400
[21:50] <Deathrattle> ok that might work..i'm just spend so much time working on it..its all most working good
[22:22] <lifwU> oh okdana that's a neat print -v trick
[22:22] <lifwU> 「Imran Khan - Wikipedia」
[22:22] <lifwU> rd.blacklist=nvidia
[22:23] <lifwU> and a diode for reference
[22:23] <lifwU> /home/coderain/projects/monolithium/mm_rewrite       c50efc0 [mm_rewrite]
[22:23] <lifwU> everything to*
[22:43] <coxnlO> were things working better under 17.0?
[22:43] <coxnlO> Who's actually running the function?
[22:57] <mpetchKH> pingfloyd: i'd rather have good quality code, than code that had to be accepted because a person is a special snowflake and you'd offend them if you'd tell the truth about the patch.
[22:57] <mpetchKH> wait... do I need a crossover LAN cable for that purpose?
[22:57] <mpetchKH> I have a header which has something like "struct X; struct Y; void A(struct *X); void B(struct Y*);", and in some implementations that's fine because X and Y are really different.
[22:57] <mpetchKH> pingfloyd: interesting
[23:04] <Death_Synnf> while you write your do expressions, you are in the monad :)
[23:04] <Death_Synnf> nothing there about recent git connection attempt.
[23:05] <Death_Synnf> olle: but yes, the expectation for a Show instance is much stricter than the toString methods of languages like java or python
[23:19] <DaneelSt> chair was invented cause a guy wanted to get some pussy from the woman that was complaining about having to sit on rocks
[23:19] <DaneelSt> it just makes narrowing it down to `(a -> b) -> a` instead of `b -> a` pointless
[23:19] <DaneelSt> it's rule-based filtering engine is very powerful too
[23:19] <DaneelSt> I'm not solving for Y anymore
[23:38] <tficharmersNh> thrig: I'll look a bit more at libevent. Maybe it will be easier to integrate into this design than kqueue, but I thought kqueue was the way to go for async IO on BSD?
[23:38] <tficharmersNh> bls: then why cant I remove the top level snapshot?
[23:44] <yarnspinner> mothatt: Interesting! What happens if you see an unknown Char?
[23:44] <yarnspinner> b2coutts: I'll take your advice
[23:44] <yarnspinner> [ Privacy is NO LONGER a Social Norm - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
[23:44] <yarnspinner> aⅿеrⅰc ⅰs nⲟt dоіng Аllah ⅰѕ dഠiᥒg


[09:38] <tdr112> morning all
[09:40] <slashtom> good morning
[09:44] <tdr112> hey slashtom
[09:58] <tdr112> good blog post czajkowski
[09:58] <tdr112> http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/06/22/ubuntu-ie-and-canonical-meet-up-in-dublin/
[11:01] <airurando> morning all.
[11:02] <airurando> I've bitten the bullet and tried to write a small blogpost about the June Geeknic.
[11:02] <airurando> http://airurando.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/june-2011-geeknic/
[11:11] <czajkowski> tdr112: thanks
[11:11] <czajkowski> tdr112: Inwas getting poked in places about info easy to chuck stuff up there when needed
[11:11] <czajkowski> airurando: tdr112 also easier when yer members
[11:11] <czajkowski> *cough*
[11:15] <airurando> anyone know how to get my blog on the ubuntu-ie agregrator?
[11:19] <czajkowski> hmm
[11:19] <czajkowski> I think you have to log into the website site add the rss feed
[11:21] <czajkowski> airurando: if you give me the RSS feed I can add it
[11:22] <czajkowski> and title of it
[11:22] <airurando> crikey how the heck do I get one of those?
[11:23] <airurando> will pester the guys when I meet them next
[11:23] <airurando> thanks czajkowski
[11:25] <moylan> feed for airurando  http://airurando.wordpress.com/feed/
[11:26] <airurando> hey thanks moylan
[11:26] <airurando> simple as that is it?
[11:27] <moylan> looks like it.  firefox seems to process that url correctly as a feed.  chrome doesn't but then chrome isn't good with rss in general
[11:29] <czajkowski> airurando: title of your feed?
[11:29] <airurando> only 16 months between posts.
[11:29] <airurando> Airurando's Blog
[11:29] <airurando> I suppose
[11:30] <czajkowski> done
[11:30] <czajkowski> moylan: got a blog
[11:30] <czajkowski> julie ha sa blog also
[11:30] <airurando> cheers czajkowski
[11:30] <czajkowski> would be great to have more blogs on there
[11:31] <czajkowski> just sent an email around
[11:31] <moylan> not at the mo.  keep saying i'll start one but never do.  who wants to hear my 1000 page rant on the evils of nokia? :-)
[11:31] <czajkowski> moylan: we do
[11:32] <czajkowski> the idea is to get to know your community
[11:32] <czajkowski> it doesnt have to be on ubuntu
[11:32] <czajkowski> its a team planet
[11:32] <airurando> jpichon is at http://www.jpichon.net/
[11:32] <czajkowski> I'll wait till she says its ok
[11:32] <moylan> then again i always said sony was evil and i bought an xperia x10 mini.  love, *love* that phone!
[11:32] <czajkowski> would be great to have hers there
[11:32] <airurando> will check if she wants it added
[11:32] <airurando> I'll poke her on identi.ca
[11:32] <czajkowski> moylan: did it meet the *click* noise test :)
[11:33] <airurando> what about tdr112 is his blog on it yet?
[11:34] <moylan> i have to set it completely silent but yes it is quiet.  and a flash.  and a keyboard.  and an fm radio.  and some neat touches to software and hardware.  some whoopsies but overall would recommend.
[11:34] <czajkowski> airurando: he is
[11:34] <airurando> cool
[11:36] <czajkowski> there are over 100 people on the list
[11:36] <czajkowski> so if we even get 10 more blogs
[11:37] <czajkowski> it'll encourage more people to interact with one another
[11:38] <airurando> indeed
[11:38] <airurando> still seems a bit alien to me
[11:38] <airurando> just need practise
[11:38] <ebel> yep
[11:39] <czajkowski> added another
[11:39] <czajkowski> :)
[11:39] <czajkowski> Aidan Delaney’s weblog
[11:43] <moylan> i'll try and knock one together later
[11:44] <czajkowski> cool
[11:44] <czajkowski> we have 8 there atm
[11:44] <czajkowski> Aidan
[11:44] <czajkowski> airurando:
[11:44] <czajkowski> daithif
[11:44] <czajkowski> declan
[11:44] <czajkowski> me
[11:44] <czajkowski> Maciej
[11:44] <czajkowski> fagan:
[11:44] <czajkowski> and tdr112
[11:44] <airurando> what about ebel and slashtom
[11:45] <czajkowski> nope
[11:45] <ebel> i don't really have a blog per se. more a static website without an rss
[11:45] <czajkowski> ebel: all tbhe hits you could have had last week
[11:45] <airurando> I've poked Julie on identi.ca
[11:46] <ebel> ah well that too :P
[11:51] <czajkowski> and anothe added
[11:51] <czajkowski> HarryHaaren: has been added
[11:51] <czajkowski> :)
[11:53] <ebel> well you could add my kindle-maps.com if you want. I'll have to make up one for technomancy.org, which is a bit more techy focussed
[11:53] <czajkowski> whats the rss feeds?
[11:54] <slashtom> what about slashtom's what?
[11:56] <ebel> slashtom: do you want your blog post on the ubuntu-ie planet?
[11:56] <ebel> here be my kindle maps feed http://www.kindle-maps.com/blog/feeds/all.atom.xml
[11:57]  * slashtom doesn't really have a blog
[11:57] <ebel> tomsalmon.eu!!! IPv6!!!!!
[11:57] <czajkowski> ebel: title for it ?
[11:57] <ebel> eh, "ebel's kindle maps" ? :)
[11:57] <ebel> ah "Rory's Kindle Maps" might be better
[11:58] <czajkowski> done
[11:58] <ebel> (since I notice lots of people trying to get there after hearing "rory mccann kindle maps" on the radio)
[11:58] <czajkowski> :)
[11:58] <czajkowski> nods
[11:58] <czajkowski> making progress today :D
[11:58] <slashtom> http://tomsalmon.eu/feed/rss/ but it's not ubuntu specific
[11:59] <czajkowski> slashtom: doesnt have to be
[11:59] <czajkowski> it's about us being a community
[11:59] <czajkowski> and sharing information with one another
[11:59] <czajkowski> do you want slashtom as the title or Tom Salmon
[11:59] <ebel> you need a little bit of randomness in order to discover new things.
[12:00] <czajkowski> exactly
[12:01] <slashtom> Tom Salmon please
[12:02] <czajkowski> hmm did I do http://harryhaaren.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default right ?
[12:03] <HarryHaaren> czajkowski: I wouldn't know, I haven't subscribed to my own RSS yet ;D (PS: Yeah it pops up "add to reader" here so should be fine.)
[12:04] <czajkowski> perfect
[12:05] <czajkowski> 11 :D
[12:06] <airurando> he he just looked at the aggregrator.
[12:07] <airurando> was set to check mine every 15 mins
[12:07] <airurando> considering I've only posted twice in 16 months i thought that was a bit overkill
[12:08] <airurando> daily will suffice.
[12:09] <airurando> also, on reflection, I changed the title on my feed to Mike O'Donohue
[12:10] <czajkowski> cool
[12:10] <czajkowski> airurando: can you dent http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/06/23/planet-ubuntu-ireland-lets-get-chatting/
[12:10] <czajkowski> please
[12:12] <airurando> damn you're fast with this blog thing
[12:12] <airurando> will do
[12:15] <czajkowski> airurando: just have a lot of free time on my hands and need to write 2 presentations for community week
[12:15] <airurando> I'm looking forward to that although it is my bad week at work :(
[12:16] <airurando> it will mostly be logs for me.
[12:16] <czajkowski> yeah there is never a good time
[12:16] <czajkowski> and this time mostly suits EU
[12:16] <czajkowski> which isn't making USA folks happy
[12:23] <fagan> win 4
[12:24] <fagan> crap forgot the slash
[12:31] <airurando> czajkowski: still I think the logs come a close second for all these IRC sessions.
[12:31] <airurando> howdy fagan
[12:31] <czajkowski> airurando: aye they do indeed
[12:32] <czajkowski> airurando: you can never please everyone however ;)
[12:32] <airurando> of course
[13:16] <tdr112> afternoon
[13:34] <czajkowski> ebel: you got that mail for me to send to IS
[13:35] <ebel> czajkowski: ah no. not yet
[13:35] <ebel> need to look at BK hosting details first
[13:36] <czajkowski> ok
[17:34] <czajkowski> hmm we got lots of new content today on the planet
[17:34] <czajkowski> :D
[17:50] <tdr112> ah slashtom has a blog , did not know
[17:54] <czajkowski> we now have a good few there
[17:54] <czajkowski> missing julies
[17:54] <czajkowski> :s
[17:54] <czajkowski> nice to have a bit of variation there as well
[17:54] <czajkowski> not all about Ubuntu
[17:56] <moylan> rss feed for mine is http://angryearthling.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
[17:56] <czajkowski> moylan: title for it ?
[17:57] <czajkowski> Moylans Rants
[17:57] <moylan> will give me something to do when at night when i can't sleep.  title would be 'ramblings of an irish gobdaw' :-)
[17:58] <czajkowski> done
[17:58] <moylan> thanks!
[17:58] <czajkowski> np
[18:49] <tdr112> so would people be up for a ubuntu hour the night cztab is back in dublin
[18:52] <slashtom> sure
[18:52] <slashtom> i think it's a good plan
[19:00] <tdr112> i did not wait for feed back :)  i made the event up http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1031/detail/
[19:05] <tdr112> email sent ->
[19:23] <mokmeister> anybody here tried firefox 5 yet?
[19:56] <tdr112> i used it on xp
[19:58] <moylan> using firefox 5 on xubuntu 11.04


[12:23] <ani> Anyone has any comment on this https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/4291 ? Its a RFC
[12:23] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Pull 4291 in canonical/cloud-init "[RFC] NM renderer: set default IPv6 addr-gen-mode for all interfaces to eui64" [Open]