[19:43] <tsimonq2> Good afternoon all
[19:43] <tsimonq2> teward @teward:libera.chat: dak command pls I'll take care of it
[19:43] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3 @arraybolt3:matrix.org: Hey, you still alive?
[19:43] <arraybolt3[m]> 👋
[19:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Yep, still here. Just been tied up with stuff lately.
[19:43] <tsimonq2> I understand that all too well
[19:43] <tsimonq2> What's the latest?
[19:44] <arraybolt3[m]> DMs incoming, I don't want it publicized ATM but I'm happy to tell you.
[20:48] <teward> tsimonq2: i believe it's this:  dcut dm --uid 0x5B8AD6F4C26ADDDD --allow pastebinit
[20:48] <teward> tsimonq2: once you get that done I still need Salsa repo access, unless you did that already
[20:48] <teward> (teward is my Salsa user)
[21:28] <tsimonq2> $ dcut dm --uid 0x5B8AD6F4C26ADDDD --allow pastebinit
[21:28] <tsimonq2> No host dm found in config
[21:28] <tsimonq2> $ dcut ftp-master --uid 0x5B8AD6F4C26ADDDD --allow pastebinit
[21:28] <tsimonq2> Error: Could not parse commands at "--uid"
[21:28] <arraybolt3[m]> (read: someone may have typoed one of those hex numbers)
[21:28] <tsimonq2> nope found it in my bash history all good
[21:29] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh, nice!
[21:30] <tsimonq2> .
[21:30] <tsimonq2> $ dcut ftp-master dm --uid 5792F66164D057EFC6D06FAF5B8AD6F4C26ADDDD --allow pastebinit
[21:30] <tsimonq2> Uploading commands file to ftp.upload.debian.org (incoming: /pub/UploadQueue/)
[21:30] <tsimonq2> Picking DM Thomas Ward (Primary Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with fingerprint 5792F66164D057EFC6D06FAF5B8AD6F4C26ADDDD
[21:30] <tsimonq2> Uploading tsimonq2-1663968593.dak-commands to ftp-maste
[21:30] <teward> yay
[21:30] <teward> thanks tsimonq2
[21:30] <tsimonq2> no prob
[21:31] <teward> it'll email me when i get upload granted, but i'll stil need the salsa repo access
[21:31] <teward> so i can alter the source ther :P
[21:31] <teward> there*
[21:31] <tsimonq2> working on it
[21:34] <tsimonq2> I can't find the setting
 it's in contributors give me a minute to find it
 link to the salsa repo?
 if worst comes to worst you can email another DD to do it :P
 you have to go into the repo and find the members/contributors and add me explicltly because i"m not a DD


[01:34] <bluesabre> :D
[01:37] <Unit193> No I mean Qt!
[01:41] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, knome, I think I have the blink issue you're talking about on both my desktop and laptop
[01:42] <jjfrv8> desktop is wily and laptop is xenial but both have Intel GPUs
[02:18] <bluesabre> suppose that while I'm in xubuntu-artwork, I can go ahead and bump the version up to 16.04
[02:21] <jjfrv8> something else happened with the latest updates - after logging out, I get a brief flash of the wallpaper at the greeter, then it goes to a black background.
[02:22] <jjfrv8> my greeter settings say to use wallpaper for the background.
[02:23] <bluesabre> hm
[02:24] <bluesabre> oh, ochosi: you mentioned pushing things to xubuntu-artwork... but your last commit was on 2015-07-16
[02:24] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: I saw the black background on first install, but it went away after logging in and out again
[02:25] <bluesabre> I wonder if there was some change to accountservice
[02:27] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, mine's not going away. I haven't been on these machines for a while so they got a ton of updates tonight. Problem started after that.
[02:27] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: good to know
[02:36] <jjfrv8> flocculant, l-l 1.7 looks okay on my hardware (unless that's what caused by greeter background to go wonky).
[02:38] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: nah, light-locker couldn't mess up whats displayed on login
[02:38] <bluesabre> I think
[02:38] <bluesabre> :D
[02:39] <bluesabre> Nice to see on ubiquity:   * Add support for disabling Secure Boot in prepare screen.
[02:40] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: nice work on all the uploads I see on xenial-changes
[03:05] <Noskcaj> thanks. Maybe i can try and get packageset rights or something before i go back to school
[10:52] <ochosi> bluesabre: very weird indeed. either way, since i saw now that you already pushed those changes (again) there's nothing for me to do
[10:53] <bluesabre> ochosi: cool, since those are the changes you were looking for, I'll upload shortly
[11:11] <bluesabre> ... and uploaded
[11:17] <ochosi> thanks!
[11:17] <ochosi> btw, seems like the leak in xfpm plugin is actually gdbus related and not our fault (at least the crucial portion of it)
[11:24] <bluesabre> ochosi: cool, that's good to hear
[17:54] <flocculant> bluesabre: catfish - after opening the menu - choosing an option doesn't now close the menu, it stays open till you hit the gear icon thing again - is that now expected?
[17:55] <flocculant> and if it IS expected - then I wouldn't expect to have to hit quit twice just because a menu happened to be open - seeing both here
[23:07] <bluesabre> flocculant: that is expected, popovers act like separate windows, allowing you to toggle multiple settings at once.  When the popover is open, it has focus so you can't close the window from that point until it is unfocused (closing the menu)
[23:07] <bluesabre> kind of a design difference with popovers and gtk3
[23:12] <knome> hmm,
[23:12] <knome> i read poopovers
[23:12] <knome> the baby is starting to affect my reading
[23:26] <bluesabre> :D
[23:31] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok that's cool - it certainly appears to make more sense - being able to toggle multiple things \o/
[23:31] <flocculant> I'd argue that having to close that if you just want to quit is a fail though :)
[23:31] <flocculant> mostly just needed to check to reword a testcase :)
[23:33] <Unit193> bluesabre: 15.12? :)
[23:36] <bluesabre> Unit193: just following along with the previous upload
[23:37] <flocculant> knome: when you get time can you tweet https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-December/010985.html please :)
[23:37] <knome> yes, doing that now
[23:38] <Unit193> That was done by a phone person, next upload just flip to 16.04 like usual.
[23:38] <flocculant> knome: cheers
[23:38] <bluesabre> Unit193: yup
[23:41] <knome> flocculant, done
[23:41] <flocculant> ty sir
[23:41] <knome> np
[23:41] <flocculant> just the job :)


[02:55] <Neal_> When I download stuff from my server, it only downloads for max 150KB/s (tried with webserver and scp). Any way I can make sure nothing is limiting the speed?
[02:55] <Neal_> It's supposed to be a gigabit connection.
[05:11] <Azelphur> Howdo folks, having some odd issues trying to install openjdk on my server, http://pastebin.com/kuAmARFs any ideas?
[05:14] <holstein> !java
[05:14] <holstein> Azelphur: im trying to remember what pacakge i installed...
[05:14] <Azelphur> that is the correct package
[05:14] <Azelphur> I think I fixed it, update-alternatives broke and didn't update /usr/bin/java
[05:15] <holstein> cool!
[05:26] <p7ank5te7> Hello. I'm trying to set up shares, which I made a folder on the root at /Shared which has 777 perms and it is owned by root:root, then have 2 folders under there call Sharepoint and Video, which I want Sharepoint open as guest and have no problem with, but Video I want authenicated users to be read only and admin group to be RW, but it seems that all users can RW w/o authenication.
[05:26] <p7ank5te7> http://pastebin.com/gzifTLAf that is the log. I know it shows for a DC but it's just a work group server, and the config is made by zentyal with mods to template script. What I was wondering what is the best practice for the permissions and ACLs for this kind of case.
[06:01] <lifeless> smoser: what images have the cloud-init-nonet service?
[08:07] <mikal> What's the right mailing list for server team people to be told about embargoed vulns in openstack?
[08:18] <damo22> hi i would like to upgrade an EC2 server from 10.04 to 12.04, what would be the best option? should i just find a new AMI image for 12.04 or would it make sense to upgrade the packages and kernel?
[09:24] <eagles0513875___> hey guys i have a question about ufw and the documentation here https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/firewall.html by default with ufw started is ufw set to automatically deny all incoming traffic
[09:24] <eagles0513875___> by default
[09:51] <iclebyte> we run our own repository  in which we have the puppet 2.7.19 deb's. however, despite having the repo correctly listed some nodes are ignoring the new repo and showing the old 2.6 version where using aptitude show puppet - any ideas how this could be?
[10:07] <koolhead17> adam_g, ping
[10:13] <roaksoax> jamespage: when you remove a unit, is the subordinate relation departed?
[10:14] <vezq> iclebyte: your repo is not then configured right, are gpg keys used correctly?
[10:58] <iclebyte> vezq, yes the key's are fine. it works on some hosts but not all
[11:17] <bubu\a> hi guys - iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8808 is working at directing anything coming into that box on port 80, redirecting to 8808
[11:18] <bubu\a> however its not redirecting to 8808 if the local box itself requests the page ..... any ideas?
[12:35] <TheLordOfTime> does loopback / localhost ignore NAT routing rules?
[12:35] <TheLordOfTime> (generic question)
[13:08] <vezq> afaik yes
[13:09] <vezq> might use proxy setting for local box
[13:31] <TheLordOfTime> uhm...
[13:31] <TheLordOfTime> isnt that a bug that's "Invalid"?
[13:32] <TheLordOfTime> since the bug refers to the wiki, not the package.
[14:15] <carleeno> Hi all, I am looking for a ubuntu server application that can serve web-portal based remote support, like LogMeIn. Basically I want to offer my own remote support to my customers where they only have to browse to our website for me to connect and help. I apologize that I don't know what the term is for that type of service (that's why I'm having trouble finding a solution using google :-(
[14:17] <xcat> Can I downgrade to an older version of a package and then lock it at that version using the package manager
[14:24] <n00bie> how can i create an usb boot stick from ubuntu-12.04.1-server-i386.iso
[14:25] <iclebyte> under what circumstances would i not be able to kill dpkg ?
[14:25] <iclebyte> killall -9 <pid> is not working
[14:28] <melmoth> iclebyte, process is probably in D state in the output of ps.
[14:29] <n00bie> any ideas how to create an usb boot stick ?
[14:36] <vezq> try unetbootin software
[14:39] <vezq> carleeno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue-tracking_systems
[15:10] <wmp> hello, on upgrade grub-pc i have necurses and i must select disc to install grub, is possible to write this discs on commandline? I need this becouse i run script without ssh connection to server and i cant select discs in interactive mode
[15:12] <smoser> lifeless, i dont thijnk i undertand the question
[15:33] <hallyn> jjohansen: bug 1057024
[15:33] <jjohansen> hallyn: okay thanks
[15:35] <hallyn> jjohansen: just added a comment to summarize what i've found.
[15:35] <hallyn> it occurs to me that i didn't check acls
[15:54] <D4v1d___> hi any idea how to change from UEFI boot to BIOS boot on ubuntu server?
[15:59] <panchiniak> Hi. I have one IP, and a CNAME entry for a subdomain. How could I configure apache2 VitrutalHosts to reach the subdomain site?
[15:59] <panchiniak> I've done it once, but can't find the way back.
[16:09] <maruq> hi guys, just booted a server a precise server on ec2 (eu-west-1), getting errors on apt-get update
[16:10] <maruq> https://gist.github.com/1b7003320f149aea5d32
[16:16] <maruq> seeing it on multiple nodes. AMI: ami-3b65664f
[17:32] <jonconley> What would be the best practical solution for host header based routing? We are using an ASA now, but would I be better off having all external traffic forwarded to a single server that is running (squid|mod_proxy) and forwarding requests to the necessary web server?
[17:36] <lifeless> smoser: hi, uhm - I was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1031065
[17:36] <lifeless> smoser: but I don't see a cloud-init-nonet upstart job anywhere ;)
[17:44] <keithzg> Arghhh, I'm trying to create external snapshots of some running VMs (for the sake of backups) but I just keep getting "error: internal error unable to execute QEMU command 'transaction': Could not open '/path/to/image.snapshot'"
[18:13] <Free99> hello everyone, I'm trying to setup a mail-delivery-stack server so that after looking up a recipient on LDAP, it writes the message to a separate file server via NFS.. any suggestions?
[18:24] <Free99> anybody have experience with postfix LDAP lookups?
[18:51] <henkjan> Free99: we use it
[18:53] <Free99> hello henkjan, I'm having an issue getting postfix to accept mail for users on the LDAP...
[18:53] <Free99> do you find it better to use alias_maps or virtual_alias_maps?
[18:54] <henkjan> hmm, we only use postfix on our bsmtp servers to lookup domains
[18:54] <henkjan> not users
[18:58] <Free99> henkjan: ok then, thanks. the user lookup seems to be my primary issue at the moment. Postmap of the LDAP lookup works fine, but when I send mail to the user, postfix replies with "unknown user"..
[19:04] <nwilson5> trying to change ulimit for "nofile" on a particular user - but every guide/explanation i see is 2+ years old and all vary somewhat. is anyone familiar with how i can give a particular user permission to have more than 1024 open files concurrently
[19:21] <jacobw> i'm trying to use virt-install with --location, my vm is hung at the bios stage 'booting from ROM', is this a common issue?
[19:25] <thebwt> Howdy, we're looking to try out ubuntu's cloud platform for an internal cloud. We're starting with getting maas going. Are we going to need dhcp control to make maas work, or is pxe just an option for nodes, and not required.
[19:28] <jacobw> thebwt: MAAS depends on DHCP
[19:29] <jacobw> thebwt: MAAS is similar to cobbler, it takes images and generates the files needed for PXE boot
[20:16] <thebwt> jacobw: so then is it common to do 2 nics on the maas machine, and have all the nodes be a private network that use the maas system as a gatway? I'm trying to figure out how to do this in an existing dhcp environment.
[20:21] <thebwt> also: where is teh best documentation for getting started with this? I'm mainly using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure , planning on doing ubuntu cloud infastructure with maas and juju. Am I missing a good resource?
[20:22] <thebwt> we're trying to build a test environment to see what resources we need, then we're going to be buying more specialized hardware.
[20:25] <jacobw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/ExistingDHCP
[20:26] <thebwt> thanks!
[20:27] <Thirtysixway> Anyone setup a successful ubuntu "cloud"? Looking to create one with my student group but I'm getting very lost with the different software that's out there
[20:28] <keithzg> Still can't make a --disk-only snapshot of VM with virsh, has anyone else been successful on 12.10?
[21:50] <thebwt> so wait... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/AddNodes lists 3 ways to add nodes, the third doesn't seem to use pxe, can't I do that?
[21:50] <thebwt> we did that and the machine turned off, but we didn't see anything added to teh maas node list.
[21:58] <autojack> can anyone help me out with an issue I'm having with cloud-config in an ec2 instance? I'm trying to pass in an additional apt source and specifying a filename for it, but the file is never created. I can't figure out why.
[21:58] <autojack> and I think this used to work.
[21:59] <autojack> I am also passing in hostname in the userdata, and that is working.
[21:59] <autojack> aha, I see the problem I think.
[22:07] <autojack> yep. I was using the wrong key.
[22:07] <autojack> should have looked for the cloud-init log :)
[22:30] <lifeless> is there any way to add parameters to upstart jobs without editing the conf file? specifically, I want to add --listen to the libvirtd options, so I can run it on the network...
[22:34] <guntbert> lifeless: look into /etc/default/...
[22:35] <lifeless> guntbert: ah, thanks.
[22:35] <lifeless> so its a case bu case thing ><
[22:36] <guntbert> lifeless: I am not sure
[23:10] <SirScott> trying to install ubuntu server w/raid + lvm.  It's failing to install the bootloader on /dev/sda.  Any suggestions?  I do not have a dedicated /boot drive, as grub2 should support booting from raid+lvm...


[02:45] <simpaulguy> hello everyone?
[02:45] <Burgundavia> hey simpaulguy
[03:05] <sbalneav> Evening all
[03:36] <LaserJock> sbalneav!
[03:37] <cmonkey> Anyone have any suggestions on how to setup an LTSP server with two NICs, having one connect to the internet, and the other to the LTSP network?
[03:37] <LaserJock> well, pretty much just install Edubuntu
[03:38] <cmonkey> I checked the wiki page about it, but it hasnt been edited in nearly two years, and it doesnt seem to work
[03:39] <cmonkey> Its installed.  I got it working the last time I tried this, but that was a couple releases ago.  Now, there doesn't appear to be a working dhcp server on the LTSP nic
[03:40] <LaserJock> what release are you using?
[03:40] <cmonkey> gutsy
[03:40] <cmonkey> the RC
[03:41] <cmonkey> i set the ltsp nic to use a static ip that is the same as that set in the dhcpd.conf, and then started dhcpd
[03:41] <LaserJock> hmm, I think it's supposed to automatically detect and setup 2-nic setups
[03:43] <cmonkey> hmm, i suppose my problem could be that my 2nd nic was broken during install :p
[03:43] <cmonkey> i stuck a working one in after rebooting
[03:45] <cmonkey> ugg, i should have just downloaded the iso instead of doing a net install
[06:55] <cmonkey> Doh!  reinstalling didn't do the trick
[06:55] <cmonkey> how do I ensure that dhcpd is running on the correct NIC?
[06:59] <cmonkey> adding the correct interface to /etc/default/dhcp3-server doesnt appear to do the trick
[07:07] <LaserJock> hmm, so you have 2 nics one set up for the internet (does that work?) and one set as a static interface for dhcp?
[07:15] <cmonkey> yep.  the one set up for the internet works, the other one is set to be <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:23] <LaserJock> cmonkey: did you restart the dhcp server?
[07:26] <cmonkey> yep
[07:37] <LaserJock> hmm, it pretty much just worked for me
[07:37] <LaserJock> you might want to email edubuntu-users mailing list
[07:38] <LaserJock> given that it's the weekend
[07:40] <cmonkey> hmm, alright, thanks
[07:43] <LaserJock> sorry I'm not more help
[07:44] <cmonkey> its alright
[07:44] <cmonkey> i suppose i should test it on a single nic, i need to demo it to a tech volunteering group tomorrow
[07:59] <cmonkey> err, oops, I'm definately doing something very wrong.  doesnt work with a single nic either
[08:04] <cmonkey> hmm, now I'm actually getting dhcp requests, but the dhcp server isnt doing anything about it...
[08:05] <cmonkey> nm, got that backward, it was the server sending a dhcp request O.o
[08:25] <cmonkey> doh! now I feel stupid
[08:25] <cmonkey> the switch I was using was broken
[08:28] <mwright1> Hi does anyone know about gutsy and LTSP integration
[08:32] <cmonkey> this is the blind leading the blind, but ill give it a try.  what do you want to know?
[08:33] <mwright1> my question is weith xen kernels
[08:33] <mwright1> the OS is Centos 5 underneath
[08:34] <mwright1> but we can run ubuntu gut in  xen kernel
[08:34] <mwright1> so I wan tto know if the ubuntu gyiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> wow, just read the changes from feisty=> gutsy - LTSP will be a different beast when i get to play with the next version in 7 months!
[07:05] <bluekuja> heya LaserJock
[07:06] <bluekuja> LaserJock: mail arrived correctly?
[07:08] <LaserJock> yep
[07:09] <bluekuja> perfect
[07:09] <bluekuja> :)
[07:42] <Debaser> Hi there... I'm running 64bit edubuntu and get this error when trying to load the ltsp clients: request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-646c
[07:42] <Debaser> I've read this is cause I'm trying to run ltsp on 32 bit clients...
[10:38] <User52> hello
[10:38] <User52> can someone help me?
[10:38] <User52> i just installed ubuntu
[10:38] <User52> and
[10:39] <User52> when i restart my computer
[10:39] <User52> i login
[10:39] <User52> in a command prompt type menu
[10:39] <User52> and
[10:39] <User52> then
[10:39] <User52> it doesnt go to ubuntu desktop
[10:39] <User52> is there a command i need?
[10:40] <User52> please help


[00:01] <wxl> https://ide.c9.io/wxl/sqawesomesauce XD
[00:02] <tsimonq2> wxl: LOL XD
[00:03] <tsimonq2> wxl: Pls gimme access
[00:12] <wxl> tsimonq2: looks like it's too limited to handle lxd. gimme your infos
[00:20] <tsimonq2> wxl: Ok, sec
[00:29] <tsimonq2> wxl: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p 2202
[00:30] <wxl> 1s
[00:30] <wxl> gotta "go home" first
[00:30] <tsimonq2> k
[00:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: So how long?
[00:31] <wxl> tsimonq2: is that a shared container?
[00:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: No it's "mine"
[01:46] <tsimonq2> Is there a better way to merging new Debian revisions while keeping the Ubuntu delta besides merging the diff from the two Debian revisions into the Ubuntu revision with the delta?
[19:34] <Yawning> Hello, how are security issues with Ubuntu universe packages handled?
[20:02] <rbasak> Yawning: anyone can contribute a security fix, and the security team will review and upload it if it is good. But Canonical do not make any commitment for security updates to packages in universe. Some packages in universe are very well maintained security-wise; some aren't.
[20:09] <Yawning> Who should I talk to about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bubblewrap/+bug/1643734
[20:10] <Yawning> the security team told me "make a deb diff"
[20:10] <Yawning> but I use neither debian, nor ubuntu
[20:11] <Yawning> I write software the depends on bubblewrap, that I'd like my users to be able to run on ubuntu, but not enough to learn the intracasies of packaging, basically
[20:13] <Yawning> Zesty has a newer package that contains the security fix
[20:15] <rbasak> Unfortunately you need to know a little about packaging in order to prepare a security update.
[20:15] <Yawning> and I probably need to also use Ubuntu
[20:16] <rbasak> That would be the easiest way, yes. It is possible to do it without Ubuntu but that is non-trivial. You can however easily create a VM or machine container running Ubuntu, so you don't need to reinstall your own machine or anything.
[20:16] <Yawning> yeah
[20:16] <Yawning> Is this documented anywhere?
[20:16] <rbasak> The "debdiff" command produces a debdiff given two source packages. So create a source package with the changes you want to ship to Ubuntu users, and then use "debdiff" to supply what you want changed to the security team.
[20:17] <Yawning> ah
[20:17] <rbasak> Creating a container?
[20:17] <rbasak> https://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/lxd
[20:17] <Yawning> no, I have that, the debdiff part
[20:17] <rbasak> Or https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/
[20:17] <Yawning> so I can diff the new package in zesty, vs the old vulnerable one in yakkety and be done?
[20:18] <Yawning> or is it slightly more involved than that
[20:18] <rbasak> Security updates should apply *only* the security fix required and no other changes.
[20:18] <Yawning> ah
[20:18] <Yawning> so it's like the debian apprach
[20:18] <Yawning> ok
[20:18] <rbasak> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation for some documentation
[20:20] <Yawning> Ok, thanks, I midht do that if I have time, but no promises
[20:23] <Yawning> Sorry for the dumb questions.


[10:17] <hiru> hello. I'm trying booting from the installation disc but instead of the installer a GNU Grub 2 terminal appears. what to do?
[10:31] <darkxst> jbicha, hopefully libgweather update I just upload will hope with most libgweather crashes that were taking down gnome-shell
[10:31] <darkxst> s/hope/help/
[10:59] <darkxst> let me know if you see any more related crashes
[11:50] <jbicha> darkxst: thanks
[11:52] <jbicha> apport now tells 16.04 users that the GNOME3 PPAs for 16.04 are EOL so you're welcome to start closing those ubuntu-gnome bugs now, LP: #1689093
[15:23] <freakyy> hi all. what is the default email program for ubuntu-gnome 17.04?
[15:23] <freakyy> geary?
[15:31] <KTrad> not sure if there is one. I installed thunderbird
[15:34] <freakyy> is there any other than thunderbird?
[15:35] <KTrad> plenty
[15:36] <KTrad> https://itsfoss.com/best-email-clients-linux/
[15:36] <KTrad> that lists a few
[19:00] <jbicha> freakyy: Ubuntu GNOME 17.04 does not install one by default since different people like different apps and I think most people just use their web browser
[19:06] <freakyy> Hm ok thx
[19:11] <jbicha> freakyy: I tried telling that to the Ubuntu Desktop team and they weren't really convinced so Ubuntu 17.10 still includes thunderbird by default :|
[19:22] <hiru> if I choose gnome classic, how can I go back non-classic after that?
[19:24] <jbicha> hiru: what Ubuntu version are you using?
[19:24] <hiru> ubuntu gnome
[19:25] <jbicha> what number?
[19:25] <hiru> 17.04
[19:27] <hiru> should I simply disable auto login in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf ?
[19:27] <hiru> I noticed it is enabled (only for daemon tho)
[19:30] <jbicha> hiru: could you file a bug against gnome-shell about that problem?
[19:31] <hiru> sure thing
[19:38] <tony1> hiru: you should be able to logout and at the login screen choose another environment
[19:40] <tony1> when you log in there is a cog wheel to change the desktop environment
[19:40] <hiru> done!


[21:47] <pleed> Isnt it possible to use lvm/crypto on the default ubuntu installation? There are no such options on the partition dialog.
[21:48] <seren> waggy: so i do this right I ass </Directory>
[21:48] <seren>          <Directory /home/jaymz/Downloads>
[21:48] <seren>          Options Inde to virtual host right
[21:48] <seren> LOL
[21:48] <seren> add
[21:48] <FloodBot4> seren: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <waggy> seren, You're perhaps more on the ball than me with this, but does apache have write privileges/is it a member of a group to write to the location?
[21:48] <Jerph> ubuntu is on virtualbox. compiz doesn't run there, right?
[21:48] <daftykins> pleed: if you're running 9.10's livecd, once you select the partition layout, it'll ask if you want to encrypt your /home
[21:48] <daftykins> Jerph: correct, it won't.
[21:48] <seren> waggy: ya apache is in my users group
[21:48] <pleed> daftykins: no, i would like to encrypt the whole hdd and create lvm2 in it.
[21:48] <waggy> seren, I'm stumped then! sorry! =0)
[21:48] <CyberGabber> MHz128: No, read this small tutor; http://ikester.blogspot.com/2007/01/im-huge-fan-of-autohotkey.html
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, it can - be sure to install the guest additions inside the VM (it doesn't run too well BTW)
[21:48] <Jerph> win+up was easy in preferences/keyboard shortcuts
[21:49] <seren> apache is odd with symlinks i think its a rroutine problem
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, you also have to turn 3d on for the VM in it's settings
[21:49] <Jerph>  ZykoticK9: haha. Well, i'm not trying to wrestle with compiz and 3d right now - i've lost that fight before. Is there a way to do the window resizy stuff in straight gnome?
[21:50] <daftykins> pleed: you're never going to have a secure system since your kernel has to be booted from an unencrypted bootloader
[21:50] <[B]randon> so i installed ubuntu onto my 8gb flashdrive, i went to load it up, and then it went to 'grub:sh' how would i mount my flashdrive, or boot up ubuntu on my flashdrive for that matter?
[21:50] <maxtor> would u say Xubuntu 9.10 is safe yet, before it was very buggy
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, "windows resizing stuff"? i haven't been folloing sorry
[21:50] <maxtor> when it was first out
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, read your question - I have no idea man?!?!  best of luck.
[21:51] <[B]randon> so i installed ubuntu onto my 8gb flashdrive, i went to load it up, and then it went to 'grub:sh' how would i mount my flashdrive, or boot up ubuntu on my flashdrive for that matter?
[21:51] <arand> maxtor: if you know the bugs, check their status on launchpad, without specifying any particular ones, it's very hard to say..
[21:51] <Jerph> ZykoticK9: no problem
[21:51] <boes> ciao
[21:51] <boes> ci siete
[21:51] <pleed> daftykins: sorry but i havent asked for a discussion if that makes sense... just would like to know if i can do that.
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, many of the keycombo's you mention are already mapped to certain features of compiz
[21:51] <boes> qualcuno ITALIANO?
[21:51] <Das_Flo> Hey everyone. I have 2 ntfs partitions that I can mount and access. However, after a reboot and mounting them again, programs can't access them for some reason. Banshee needs to reload all the media, Firefox can't access the profile it's supposed to share with the windows one... what to do?
[21:51] <daftykins> pleed: sure sorry. i've no experience then i'm afraid.
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> !it | boes
[21:52] <Jerph> ZykoticK9: right right, I'm fine if it's non-standard for compiz, this is just for me
[21:52] <boes> ok grazie
[21:52] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa I am not trying to make it access / it is doing it all on its own
[21:52] <Jerph> I have this huge monitor running an Ubuntu VM. I just miss my left-half right-half shortcuts. Amazingly useful
[21:52] <pleed> daftykins: okay thanks.
[21:52] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: It shouldn't be.
[21:52] <IP-v6> !appdb
[21:52] <FuzzyFox0> it is
[21:53] <[B]randon> so i installed ubuntu onto my 8gb flashdrive, i went to load it up, and then it went to 'grub:sh' how would i mount my flashdrive, or boot up ubuntu on my flashdrive for that matter?
[21:53] <IP-v6> excuse me appdb is for myself : )
[21:53] <daftykins> [B]randon: when you installed, did you do it from livecd with hard disks in the machine?
[21:53] <[B]randon> yeah :P
[21:54] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa do you think reinstalling might work?
[21:54] <[B]randon> daftykins, i did, should i just take out all harddisks?
[21:54] <daftykins> [B]randon: give it a try again and be sure to check advanced at the end and say install GRUB to the flash drive, /dev/sdx or whatever it comes up as. or pull drives ja
[21:54] <Maletor> Where should I put http://unicorn.bogomips.org/examples/init.sh on my Linux server and how do I add it to update-rc.d so that it will start on startup?
[21:54] <[B]randon> daftykins, so it's using the MBR from my windows drives instead of straight installing to my flashdrive?
[21:55] <daftykins> [B]randon: i dunno, somethings messing up :) if you want to be 100% it's b0rked, use your BIOS to force USB as the only boot device / hit the key that gives you a boot menu and select USB only
[21:56] <[B]randon> daftykins, yeah which is usually F8 at startup, well I'll make sure to pull all 8 of my drives when re-installing to flashdrive, thanks brother! :D
[21:56] <seren> waggy: w00t got it
[21:56] <daftykins> [B]randon: for yours and my BIOS, not every ;) good luck
[21:56] <[B]randon> daftykins, thanks man [;
[21:57] <nitemovz> I am trying to figure out how to configure Ubuntu Server to work as a mail server, can anyone help me?
[21:57] <waggy> seren, how?
[21:57] <seren> waggy i had a .htaccess file that had the wrong user in it, was something i over looked
[21:58] <waggy> seren, ahhh lol
[21:58] <ZykoticK9> nitemovz, if you don't get an answer in this channel you might also want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:59] <nitemovz> oh, I didn't know there was one for Server, I will go to that one instead
[21:59] <nitemovz> Thanks ZykoticK9
[21:59] <harisund> Is there any webpage that shows how to make Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit usable? As in install the latest firefox, install flash, java, acrobat and associated browser plugins, standard codecs etc etc ? I managed to get all the hardware working perfectly, now I would like some software to make the machine useful
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> nitemovz, #ubuntu is a good place to ask as well :)  many more people
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> harisund, installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will certainly get you started
[22:01] <harisund> ZykoticK9, that's a start, will do man thanks
[22:01] <BluesKaj> harisund, the medibuntu repos won't hurt either
[22:02] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[22:02] <harisund> BluesKaj, cool cool .. thank you thank you :)
[22:03] <BluesKaj> harisund, hope ithelps
[22:03] <harisund> I will check it out. Thanks again
[22:04] <Roald> Euhm guys, I'm a total Linux newbie, just installed ubuntu today and I tried to get use my wireless internet. Problem is I can't find the wireless network, i can see other networks but mine doen't show up. The SSID isn't hidden
[22:05] <Wicked> hello all...it seems my hard drive had a error and remounted as read only as its supposed to do via fstab settings. But i ran fsck on the drive and it seems to be fixed...but i cannot get the drive to remount as rw...when i remount the drive its still mounting as read only...
[22:05] <BluesKaj> Roald, what wifi chip do you have ?
[22:06] <Roald> i use a D link DWA 140 usb adapter
[22:06] <Roald> dunno what chip it uses
[22:06] <wizzo50> #unity-coders
[22:06] <LonelyDragon> that was weird...
[22:06] <LonelyDragon> how do you get ubuntu 9.10 (edubuntu) to redetect the video hardware / monitor settings...
[22:07] <LonelyDragon> 'cause my resolution is maxed at 800x600 and I should be able to do 12xx-1024
[22:07] <Trek> LonelyDragon, edubuntu questions can be resolved in #edubuntu i think
[22:07] <LonelyDragon> join #edubuntu
[22:07] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: lscpi
[22:08] <lowryS_> join #edubuntu
[22:08] <LonelyDragon> lscpi?
[22:08] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: in terminal and tell me what the video card is??
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> LonelyDragon, using "lspci | grep -i vga" will be MUCH easier!
[22:09] <LonelyDragon> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:09] <doobeh^> Roald: out of interest, what's your SSID called?
[22:09] <Roald> VH
[22:09] <UbuntuUser> Ive compiled Audacious succesfully, but I want to know how to change this:
[22:09] <Roald> it's called
[22:09] <UbuntuUser> http://www4.pic-upload.de/09.02.10/rs1pqo8vvtj.png
[22:10] <doobeh^> Roald: What's the make/model of the router?
[22:10] <UbuntuUser> normally: http://www.howtoforge.de/images/perfect_desktop_mandriva_2008_1_gnome/audacious.jpg
[22:10] <Roald> DWA 140 wireless router
[22:10] <Roald> D link
[22:11] <Trek> !enter | Roald
[22:11] <ownlife> Hey!
[22:11] <Roald> sorry
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> UbuntuUser, you mean the black background?  that is how mine (from the repo) appears.  could it be a theme issue, in ubuntu i mean?
[22:12] <BluesKaj> Roald , your wifi adapter uses the ralink rt2870 driver which I also have, but unfortunately i haven't had any luck getting it to work
[22:12] <UbuntuUser> yea, I mean the black background. Audacious 2.2 from getdeb PPA has not this "bug"
[22:12] <LonelyDragon> like I said... my Intel 82845G/GL is only giving me 800x600...
[22:13] <ownlife> Would anyone recommend an IRC client other than irssi?
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> Roald, could you temporarily disable encryption on your router and see if it then shows up in the wireless list?
[22:13] <jrib> ownlife: weechat
[22:13] <UbuntuUser> and no, its not a theme issue
[22:13] <Roald> but the thing is that there are some wireless networks showing up in my list
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, if you want a GUI perhaps xchat
[22:13] <ownlife> Does weechat accessible through reposutory?
[22:13] <ownlife> okay
[22:14] <ownlife> Xchat I've used before :D
[22:14] <doobeh^> ownlife: I use Quassel, that's available via the repo's
[22:14] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: system > administration > hardware drivers
[22:14] <ownlife> Alright, thanks for the help!
[22:14] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: see if there is a hardware driver available
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, i'd recommend just xchat, not the xchat-gnome - but some people prefer it
[22:15] <ownlife> I have Gnome?
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, so do i
[22:15] <Trek> ownlife: just do this: sudo apt-get install xchat
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, you can install both and see which you prefer
[22:15] <Trek> ownlife: what ZykoticK9 said
[22:15] <doobeh^> Roald: http://fostergrant.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333255 mentions various tips about getting the DWA 140 working
[22:15] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: I loaded my laptop with debian so it may not be in that location...
[22:16] <diablodf> amsn does not function video with dlink di-524.
 already I changed the MTU for 1492, more exactly thus not to function the colloquy with video.
[22:16] <Inquiry> Hello, everyone.  Been a while.  I've got an easy one this time.  Trying to upgrade my distro from Hardy Heron 8.04.  Can't seem to get it going.  Anyone know I need to go about this?
[22:17] <trijntje> alt +f2 "update-manager -d"
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> Inquiry, you might want to wait the 79 days until Lucid is released
[22:17] <Trek> Inquiry: you need to go from version to version
[22:17] <nitemovz> how do I configure VPN?
[22:17] <Inquiry> What's lucid, other than a heightened state of consciousness, that is.?
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> !lucid | Inquiry
[22:18] <Trek> Inquiry: its 10.04, the next version
[22:18] <Trek> or what ubottu just said
[22:18] <ownlife> exit
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> Inquiry, basically you are currently using a LTS release, and Lucid is the next LTS release
[22:19] <ownlife_> Apparently the terminal and hl console isn't the same gig
[22:19] <Roald1> disabeling encryption doesnt help
[22:19] <Inquiry> Okay, well, I wasn't wanting the release that's not out yet, but thanks.
[22:19] <archboxman> Well Debian is ok ,but not good for a laptop back to ubuntu 9.04... :)
[22:19] <doobeh^> nitemovz: http://paulstamatiou.com/how-toreview-surf-securely-with-vyprvpn has a VPN guide, scroll down about half way for the ubuntu bits
[22:19] <Alan502> Would someone help me with firefox?
[22:20] <jrib> Alan502: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> Roald1, a "work-around" would be to set your router up to NOT broadcast SSID and use MAC filtering so only approved MAC addresses could connect
[22:20] <Syirrus> anyone know where I can find kde 4.4 binaries for ubuntu 9.10 AMD 64?
[22:20] <doobeh^> nitemovz: it's focused on the settings for the VyprVPN service, so just ignore the settings it requires for that.
[22:20] <nitemovz> doobeh^: Thanks!
[22:20] <Alan502> Okay, so when i click a link that opens in a new window Firefox alerts "javascript - sercurity error"
[22:20] <Inquiry> How to ask this?  Hmm.  I'm running Hardy Heron 8.04 on a laptop with no problems at all, except that I can't seem to get rubygame to install, and some other folks are telling me that I need to upgrade my distro.  But I'm not convinced.
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> Roald1, SORRY "doesn't help" missread you!
[22:21] <LonelyDragon> archboxman :  I don't see any proprietary drivers used on this system...
[22:21] <llamanathan> exit
[22:21] <archboxman> hmmm??
[22:21] <Roald1> the weird thing is that i can see all other networks in my neighbourhood but mine doesnt show up
[22:22] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: hold on :)
[22:23] <LonelyDragon> archboxman: no prob...   I used to have it working LONG time ago... just recently reloaded (from WattOS... and has Xbuntu on here before that)...  just frustrating...
[22:23] <doobeh^> Roald1: This probably won't work, but did once for me on a Symbol router, try changing the channel and the SSID name (long shot, but if you're already pulling at straws...)
[22:23] <antdawg> i have a toshiba satellite, a215-7437, to be exact..i've been using ubuntu since 2006 on desktop computers, but can't find a way for hibernate/sleep to work on this sucker
[22:23] <Roald1> i'll try that
[22:23] <LonelyDragon> and don't see /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the system either... which I thought was strange   and tried to do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  but it just goes to the next line in terminal...  and doesn't do anything.
[22:23] <antdawg> anyone had success with the acpi on someting like this toshiba satellite?
[22:23] <ownlife> Would skype be in the repo?
[22:23] <Syirrus> How do I compile KDE 4.4 SC. Is there a way I can download it from an ftp site extract and compile in a few cli commands?
[22:24] <ownlife> n/m
[22:24] <archboxman> LonelyDragon:  locate xorg.conf... in terminal
[22:24] <trism> Syirrus: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build (it is not straightforward)
[22:25] <Syirrus> Thank you Trism
[22:26] <Roald1> doobeh^: it doesn't help
[22:26] <antdawg> becuase this suspend/hibernate issue is killing my battery life, so bad, that i'm just gonna forfeit to using XP...
[22:26] <Inquiry> What is the latest stable Ubuntu release?  And can I upgrade to it from my 8.04?
[22:26] <archboxman> LonelyDragon:you find xorg.conf???
[22:27] <antdawg> Inquiry, it should be available in the update manager..."A newer version of Ubuntu is..."
[22:27] <LonelyDragon> not sure where to look.
[22:27] <trism> Inquiry: 9.10, an no, you need to go 8.04->8.10->9.04->9.10, you are better off clean installing (or you can wait and go 8.04->10.04)
[22:27] <ayam_jago> antdawg : try go to System, Administration, Hardware Drivers
[22:27] <LonelyDragon> i think I found it earlier this morning (or last night)... in my home .something directory... but not sure if that was a valid one.
[22:27] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: Terminal type locate xorg.conf
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> Inquiry, because you are using LTS it's not going to show an upgrade option (by default) until Lucid is released -- there are ways to upgrade to non-LTS (i just don't remember how)
[22:28] <Inquiry> antdawg:  That's the problem, right there.  Update manager doesn't show any reference at all to new distro releases being available.  I don't know that it ever did.  I did an update using it just today, but I still have 8.04 afterwards.
[22:28] <archboxman> LonelyDragon:you find xorg.conf???
[22:29] <trism> Inquiry: if you wanted to upgrade the hard way, you can enable it in System/Adminstration/Software Sources on the Update tab, switch from lts to normal releases
[22:29] <LonelyDragon> ya.. found three.. sort of...
[22:29] <antdawg> Inquiry, see trism 's comment...you will have to do that.  update-manager -d will most likely break ur system
[22:29] <LonelyDragon> the one in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is one I think I cp to that location though...   from my /home/dragon/xorg.conf.new file
[22:29] <root__> hey
[22:29] <LonelyDragon> and see one says   /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz
[22:30] <Alan502> Okay, so when i click a link that opens in a new window Firefox alerts "javascript - sercurity error"
[22:30] <tola> why??
[22:30] <Inquiry> antdawg: Yeah, I was afraid that something like that could happen.
[22:30] <root__> any1 know how i can turn on wireless in backtrack4?
[22:30] <Alan502> can somone hlep me?
[22:30] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: Did you mv the file to your home directory???
[22:30] <unixalot> root__: you've already tried ifconfig up? ifup ifdown??
[22:30] <LonelyDragon> nope...
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> !backtrack | root__
[22:31] <LonelyDragon> found it their earlier...  when I was trying to do google searches lastnight/this morning...
[22:31] <grendal_prime> this might seem irrelevant at first but.....
[22:31] <LonelyDragon> getting upset with this stupid machine.
[22:31] <grendal_prime>  ok was it captain jack sparro that said...."I've found the larger ones are more accommodating" ?
[22:31] <antdawg> Inquiry, you can upgrade one release at a time...but if you can backup ur home folder and reinstall 9.10, that's ur best bet
[22:31] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: what version 9.10???
[22:32] <LonelyDragon> edubuntu 9.10  i believe... at least that is what I thought I downloaded and burned
[22:32] <neurodamage> what's the correct command to run against a sites-available configuration to make it show up in the sites-enabled? other than manually symlinking it?
[22:32] <fbianconi> !karmic | archboxman
[22:32] <BluesKaj> Roald1, ZykoticK9, wicd used work well with the rt2870 ralink chip on jaunty , the upgrade to karmic appeared to kill any ability for the driver to connect. I've tried every tutorial I could find with no results. I'll be very happy if you guys can find a way to get the adapter work.
[22:33] <Inquiry> antdawg:  Yeah, I think you're right.  Rather than go through all those updates, I could just start from scratch with 9.10.
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, sorry man - i've never used wicd in my life, hope you get it working
[22:33] <Roald1> BluesKaj: given the fact that i'm a complete newbie, chances are small that i'm going to find the solution all by myself
[22:33] <thenthenio> which DHCP server package would you suggest to install?
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1342593
[22:34] <thenthenio> ZykoticK9: I'm having a look to ebox...
[22:34] <archboxman> fbianconi: I didn't ask for that ... I know as of Oct 26,2009 release date.... Problem is it uses upstart = hal + udev and grub2 ... Which udev and grub2 are developmental packages in there final stage for release... Why ubuntu put them on release 9.10 is a mystery???
[22:35] <ardian> How can i use wall to say Hi ?
[22:35] <ardian> on terminal
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> thenthenio, i've never setup a DHCP server before.  best of luck - you might want to ask the same question in #ubuntu-server as well
[22:35] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, Roald1 , I also tried the default network manager , with no reults , but I didn't investigate it as deeply as I did with wicd
[22:35] <heg> neurodamage: sudo a2ensite <site>
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> thenthenio, ebox doesn't seem like a drop-in replacement to webmin in my opinion - best of luck
[22:36] <Roald1> BluesKaj: have you got any idea of another network manager i could use?
[22:36] <ownlife> I'm having some trouble understanding what the software channel is. I've downloading the Skype deb but I'm getting a message saying the same software version is available on the software channel. I don't know the 3 w's and Google isn't yielding good results.
[22:36] <Inquiry> antdawg: Do you know if 9.10 has any issues with wifi setups?  I ask because I had a lot of trouble getting mine to work, and I wouldn't want to have to go through that again after upgrading.
[22:36] <neurodamage> heg: that's the one thanks
[22:36] <amansou> hi
[22:36] <archboxman> Grub2 has problems with BSD's
[22:37] <thenthenio> ZykoticK9: actually I need just dhcp and samba... seems it has!
[22:37] <BluesKaj> Roald1, wicd
[22:37] <amansou> salut tout le monde
[22:37] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[22:37] <antdawg> Inquiry, it really depends on ur hardware...really could or could not.  If it works live cd, ur usually OK
[22:37] <unimatrix> is there a commandline mpd client that would be able to find album art?
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, just because you get that message doesn't mean you can't install the package!  software channel refers to your apt-get repo list - so there must be a repo with skype already in it (so "sudo apt-get install skype" should work)
[22:38] <khem_> can anybody give me advice on how i can map ctrl (25) + 3B to left tag and ctrl (25) + 3C to right tag aswell as ctrl (25) + 33 to pipe with xmodmap?
[22:38] <Schui> hello, i just installed counterstrike and there is no sound, any suggestions? also the text is really blocky and hard to read. i'm using karmic
[22:38] <Inquiry> antdawg:  Thanks for the tip.  I didn't even think of that.  Yeah, the live CD option would make for a safe way to run an important test.
[22:38] <Roald1> Blueskaj: I'll try that
[22:38] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: I would say you have done a lot with your current setup of eubuntu and may have played with xorg file caused problems...
[22:38] <antdawg> Inquiry, it's not 100%, but it is a good way to feel the release out...see how it's gonna work for you
[22:39] <Inquiry> antdawg:  Right.
[22:39] <BluesKaj> Roald1, it might work with your router.I suspect my problem is with configuring my router to work with the wifi adapter
[22:39] <apollo> wont show my hardware. hp mini 311.  no proprietary hardware.... etc
[22:40] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: your to backup your xorg.conf when moving the file or editing it...should have done that if you planned to edit it...
[22:42] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: the idea is to backup every conf file you plan to edit...
[22:42] <Roald1> BluesKay: Wicd still doesnt recognise my network, though the others are still showing up
[22:42] <harisund> hey guys .. can I get A2DP support on Ubuntu? How good is it?
[22:42] <ownlife> Command to open the sources.list?
[22:43] <raven> how to upgrade the distribution by command line?
[22:43] <iceroot> !upgrade | raven
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, to see it from a terminal "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:44] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, to open it "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" < not sure what you're trying to do though
[22:44] <ownlife> bah
[22:44] <raven> iceroot, only in command mode - apt-get dist-upgrade does not work.....
[22:44] <benofiniquity> Has anyone solved the touchpad/keyboard issue that gives all the "psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity" errors in dmesg?
[22:44] <sharperguy> How do I completely get rid of firestarter and put the iptables config back to normal?
[22:45] <simulation> hello guys
[22:45] <ownlife> I'm wanting to add "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free"
[22:45] <sponzor> is there any howto set up iptables without this firewall programs..?
[22:45] <simulation> i have installed a ubuntu server on my vm machine
[22:45] <ownlife> I found the instructions to install from repo
[22:45] <simulation> at bridged networking
[22:45] <sharperguy> !return | simplexio
[22:45] <simulation> but ubuntu cant solve the networks computer names :S
[22:45] <sharperguy> ^ simulation see about :)
[22:45] <simulation> for example my hosts name is myhost
[22:45] <sharperguy> *above
[22:45] <simulation> i type ping myhost but ubuntu cant solve the ip :)
[22:46] <simulation> but i can ping the hosts ip directly :(
[22:46] <clrg> simulation: Check /etc/resolv.conf for correct DNS configuration
[22:46] <iceroot> raven: please read the link ubottu gave you
[22:46] <iceroot> raven: there is the way using the cli
[22:46] <simulation> @clrg thats correct
[22:46] <Alderbrook> Hi
[22:46] <simulation> the dns is my routers ip
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> simulation, you might not get hostname DNS support like that... maybe.  you could add entries into /etc/hosts for the name-to-ip resolution as a work around
[22:47] <clrg> simulation: Or use your /etc/hosts to map your clients
[22:47] <clrg> ZykoticK9: =)
[22:47] <nipplebutter> anyone have experience with a multi linux distro
[22:47] <simulation> hmm clrg letme try :)
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> nipplebutter, what is a "multi linux ditro"?
[22:47] <nipplebutter> the problem is i need more space for the distro i use more
[22:48] <mab> ownlife: So do you know how to open up a terminal (also known as a shell... terminal... prompt?)
[22:48] <iceroot> nipplebutter: gparted
[22:48] <nipplebutter> i got studio ubuntu and crunch bang
[22:48] <BluesKaj> Roald1, did you set up wicd with encryption ?
[22:48] <nipplebutter> installed
[22:48] <benofiniquity> Most posts online involve passing i8042.nomux=1 to the kernel or setting acpi_osi=Linux, but neither of these solve my problem.
[22:48] <simulation> but i wonder why it cant solve :)) my pyscl computers can solve the ubuntus computer name also :)
[22:48] <nipplebutter> but the problem is i am having problems identifying what partition is my studio install
[22:48] <clrg> mab: Press alt+F2 and type "gnome-terminal"
[22:48] <raven> iceroot, yes now i got it tnx
[22:48] <oizo> Question: I want a program that can remove white edges from scanned images automatically and on multiple images. Does anybody know of such a program or what it's called in "image editing language"?
[22:49] <ownlife> Well, I'm about a month new to Ubuntu. I was on Jaunty first.
[22:49] <nipplebutter> in order to delete it and resize my crunch bang partition
[22:49] <mab> clrg: I know how, I'm asing if ownlife does so I can help him.
[22:49] <nipplebutter> but i dont want to frak my grub
[22:49] <ownlife> I've been clawning my eyes out trying to learn the ins-and-outs
[22:49] <ownlife> But I'm learning the terminal commands
[22:49] <ownlife> I'm at the point that I know enough to damage stuff :D
[22:49] <mab> ownlife: Press Alt+F2 and type in "gnome-terminal", like clrg said. :D
[22:50] <mab> ownlife: alright, and you still need that repo added, right?
[22:50] <simulation> with hosts file its ok ofcourse :)
[22:50] <iurii> кто по русски говорит?
[22:50] <ownlife> Um, where can I find that mouse gesture app that launches apps based on pre-determined mouse jestures?
[22:50] <VCoolio> oizo: look into imagemagick; not sure about the lingo though
[22:50] <clrg> !ru | iurii
[22:50] <simulation> thanks for tiny tip :) but i still wonder why it cant solve the names auto :S :)
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> speaking of alt+f2, it's OT i know, was show this last night and just want to share.  if you're using Gnome and want to see an Easter Egg -- Alt+f2 and enter "gegls from outer space" for a surprise!  "free the fish" does something as well.
[22:50] <ownlife> Ya, I added it to the bottom like the rest: #Skype deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[22:50] <oizo> VCoolio: thanks
[22:51] <iurii> та я просто так
[22:51] <m0n0> hello there, does anyone know how to tell apllications (which run in a console)  the size of the terminal screen? could i use an env var for that? or something like that?
[22:51] <mab> ownlife: alright, so you have everything figured out? other than the mouse gesture app
[22:51] <mab> m0n0: what applications are you trying to run?
[22:51] <m0n0> mab: links just shows me 25 lines via my atari terminal...
[22:51] <clrg> m0n0: There's two env vars for that, I believe, but I don't recall how they're called. Try "resize"
[22:52] <ownlife> Well I'm very interested in Linux based IT
[22:52] <calrik> hi all Im having problem where my logictech g5 usb mouse would freeze for like 1-2 seconds, I have checked dmesg and seems it is disconnecting and reconnecting any ideas how to fix this from happening?
[22:52] <ownlife> I've done the windows shit for too long, that was my job in the service
[22:53] <Trek> !language | ownlife
[22:53] <Roald1> BluesKaj: euhm no i didnt
[22:53] <ownlife> Bah, sorry!
[22:53] <m0n0> thanks for the info, I'll have to look at resize :)
[22:53] <chuche> Guys one of the updates broke my ability to drag-n-drop in GNOME.
[22:53] <Roald1> BluesKaj: how do I set Wicd up with encryption?
[22:54] <benofiniquity> I keep getting "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1" and "psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity" errors in dmesg.  Both my keyboard and touchpad will not respond if there's no input for a couple of seconds.  After typing a key or moving around on the touchpad, things are fine as long as I keep moving or typing. After a couple seconds, everything stops responding again.
[22:54] <chuche> When I attempt to drag-n-drop I get 60% cpu usage.
[22:54] <chuche> Everything was fine until I updated.
[22:54] <chuche> help?
[22:55] <VCoolio> oizo: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/channels/#mask_bgnd seems like what you're looking for
[22:56] <ownlife> Now that I've ruined this pg environment, I was going to ask if there are any well experienced people that'd let me bother them at all times of the day with simple questions and/or willing to explain Linux concepts
[22:56] <By_Your_Command> uh
[22:56] <BluesKaj> Roald1, actually you set your router to encrypt your wifi signal with a password and wep or wpa or wpa2 encryption , then you set the wicd network manager to match
[22:57] <ownlife> *****soft ruined my interest in the IT field, but Ubuntu lured me back in
[22:57] <By_Your_Command> Microsoft is run by Cylons
[22:57] <ownlife> I'm just trying to keep it pg
[22:57] <meelu> how do i kill PID 13288
[22:57] <meelu> pkill 13288 isnt working
[22:58] <velociostrich_> Hi all
[22:58] <VCoolio> ownlife: this channel is crowded 31; also #ubuntu-offtopic if it's not that ubuntu-related
[22:58] <archboxman> funny I didn't know my cell phone could interfer with wireless lol
[22:58] <velociostrich_> I have not been able to get sound in Enemy Territory or any mods for it;
[22:58] <By_Your_Command> You might end up going to jail  for that Meelu
[22:58] <velociostrich_> when I try to start it, I just get an error:
[22:58] <meelu> lol why
[22:58] <velociostrich_> ------- sound initialization -------
[22:58] <velociostrich_> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[22:58] <velociostrich_> Could not open /dev/dsp
[22:58] <Roald1> BluesKaj: problem is that I cant see my network in wicd
[22:58] <By_Your_Command> because it's murder
[22:58] <By_Your_Command> ;)
[22:58] <meelu> hah
[22:59] <meelu> i just need to stop firefox
[22:59] <meelu> how do i do it?
[22:59] <macrossotaku> I have three partitions on my hard drive, only two have their own trash folders, I would like the third to have one too
[22:59] <archboxman> kill command
[22:59] <VCoolio> meelu: kill pid or pkill processname
[22:59] <iceroot> meelu: killall firefox
[22:59] <By_Your_Command> find what PID firefox is and killall pid
[22:59] <coz_> meelu,  which application does this belong to?
[22:59] <meelu> firefox
[22:59] <meelu> thanks
[22:59] <coz_> meelu,   yeah  killalll firefox
[22:59] <velociostrich_> meelu: if you use killall, you don't have to specify the PID
[22:59] <velociostrich_> does anyone know why I can't get audio?
[22:59] <archboxman> meelu: disconnect your internet..
[23:00] <velociostrich_> I've checked the sound settings
[23:00] <By_Your_Command> well I always specify the PID
[23:00] <meelu> i wont be able to connect to the server if i disconnect it
[23:00] <velociostrich_> they seem ok, and when I open the mixer
[23:00] <meelu> lol
[23:00] <gregl> <velociostrich google no sound Enemy Territory..There is a fix for it.
[23:00] <velociostrich_> W:ET isn't listed
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, you can try "padsp et" but i still don't get audio either
[23:00] <BluesKaj> Roald1, set up the encryption in windows, but I suspect your wifi broadcast on the router is turned off
[23:00] <coz_> velociostrich_,   open a termina.... type   alsamixer   see if the card is listed and idf any of the sliders are down or muted
[23:00] <archboxman> meelu: stop feeding the source it will kill it...
[23:00] <velociostrich_> I'll try those fixes, thanks
[23:00] <velociostrich_> the odd thing is that it _did_ work before
[23:00]  * By_Your_Command feeds the source a hamburger
[23:00] <Roald1> BluesKaj: No it isnt because i can still connect with  a laptop running vista
[23:00] <velociostrich_> so I don't know what broke it
[23:01] <archboxman> velociostrich_: more like *pron* popups.. :)
[23:01] <By_Your_Command> PRON ;)
[23:01] <BluesKaj> Roald1, whwt encryption are you using in windows?
[23:01] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271075 for possible solution
[23:01] <BluesKaj> what
[23:02] <By_Your_Command> ah Roald1 useing PGP encryption
[23:02] <By_Your_Command> uses*
[23:02] <Roald1> BluesKaj: WPA personal
[23:02] <velociostrich_> thanks; I just tried "padsp et" and running alsa mixer on a getty but to no avail with either
[23:02] <calrik> hi all Im having problem where my logictech g5 usb mouse would freeze for like 1-2 seconds, I have checked dmesg and seems it is disconnecting and reconnecting, I have only my mouse and keyboard plugged into usb, have the latest nvidia drivers, I have changed to different ports still same problem any ideas how to fix this from happening
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, actually that link i sent you is rather old
[23:02] <BluesKaj> Roald1, then do the same with wicd
[23:02] <By_Your_Command> calrik is it a wireless mouse?
[23:02] <velociostrich_> well, I'll try it anyway
[23:02] <velociostrich_> I'm still reading through it
[23:03] <calrik> By_Your_Command: No
[23:03] <velociostrich_> ZykoticK9: actually, I came across that already
[23:03] <velociostrich_> nothing in there worked
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, i'm worried as it seem to rely on ESD which doesn't really apply anymore
[23:04] <velociostrich_> the odd thing is that it worked less than a week ago
[23:04] <By_Your_Command> calrik: does it only disconnect when you move the mouse?
[23:04] <By_Your_Command> or does it do it with no movement?
[23:04] <velociostrich_> could a mod have broken it?
[23:04] <calrik> By_Your_Command: only when I move the mouse
[23:04] <By_Your_Command> might be a faulty wire
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, it's never worked for me - no idea if a mod could have broken it?  perhaps
[23:04] <Roald1> BluesKaj: I did that already, but he just keeps asking the password, which surely is correct
[23:04] <archboxman> Its great to see people playing with there boot times or xorg.conf files ,but you must backup your xorg.conf file before editing and look into run levels if you plan to play with your setup to boot faster :)
[23:05] <benofiniquity> I keep getting "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1" and "psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity" errors in dmesg.  Both my keyboard and touchpad will not respond if there's no input for a couple of seconds.  After typing a key or moving around on the touchpad, things are fine as long as I keep moving or typing. After a couple seconds, everything stops responding again. Most posts online inv
[23:05] <khem_> can anybody give me advice on how i can map ctrl (25) + 3B to left tag and ctrl (25) + 3C to right tag aswell as ctrl (25) + 33 to pipe with xmodmap?
[23:06] <velociostrich_> ZykoticK9: I think it may have stopped working after downloading the No Quarter mod; I'll try moving that out of my ~/.etwolf folder
[23:06] <By_Your_Command> khem: go to the blue door and make a right and walk 20 paces and then turn left and then walk 15 paces to the old wooden tree...
[23:06] <velociostrich_> ZykotiK9: actually, I may even just try rebooting
[23:06] <harisund> Hey guys are there any instructions for Skype 64 bit on Ubuntu? There's a .deb for Skype 64 bit on Skype web site for 8.10 .. will it work for say, 9.04? Do I need additional packages?
[23:06] <velociostrich_> it could have been some program I've run that messed it up, I don't know
[23:07] <coz_> harisund,  if it is a deb pacakges run it via the terminl  with sudo dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb  and it shoulde spit out if it needs additional libraires
[23:07] <By_Your_Command> calrik do you have another computer?
[23:08] <BluesKaj> Roald1, there is an alternative that can be used with wicd or any network manager ,it's called ndiswrapper.
[23:08] <urlwallace> Hi I am losing the wireless connection in ubuntu 9.1.0 when I swith from a published ssid to a non published one. the wireless chip atheros works great when ssid is published. Is htere a fix or config  help? thank you
[23:08] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | Roald1
[23:08] <BluesKaj> BBL...dinnertime
[23:08] <By_Your_Command> ubttu
[23:09] <urlwallace> thanks ubottu!
[23:09] <By_Your_Command> ubottu*
[23:09] <By_Your_Command> UBOT-TU
[23:09] <Roald1> BluesKaj: yes I heard of that, but isnt that to install drivers for your wireless card?
[23:09] <apollo> ubuntu wont recognize my drivers
[23:09] <archboxman> !bot
[23:09] <urlwallace> drivers work fine as long as ssid is braodcasted
[23:09] <Dzelzsbetons> apollo: are they .exe files? :D
[23:10] <By_Your_Command> apollo that's because it knows you don't have a license*
[23:10] <velociostrich> well, I tried rebooting
[23:10] <velociostrich> and lo and behold, it worked
[23:10] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich, lucky!
[23:10] <velociostrich> I think it may have been because of Adobe Flash
[23:10] <velociostrich> I had a firefox window open that I had forgot about
[23:10] <velociostrich> so yeah, that may have been keeping the sound device busy
[23:11] <apollo> how do i get a license?
[23:11] <ikonia> apollo: for what ?
[23:11] <By_Your_Command> hah
[23:11] <apollo> ubuntu wont recognize my drivers
[23:11] <velociostrich> apollo: are we talking vehicles or software? :)
[23:11] <By_Your_Command> apollo: go to the BMV
[23:11] <ikonia> apollo: for what
[23:11] <ikonia> By_Your_Command: please don't mess around with people needing help
[23:11] <coz_> apollo,  I cant think of anything off hand on linux that you need to request a license for
[23:11] <benofiniquity> Is there a different channel where I should be asking this question?  (I keep getting "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1" and "psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity" errors in dmesg.  Both my keyboard and touchpad will not respond if there's no input for a couple of seconds.  After typing a key or moving around on the touchpad, things are fine as long as I keep moving or typing. After a c
[23:11] <apollo> nothing shows up when i click hardware drivers
[23:11] <bazhang> By_Your_Command, if you are going to help be helpful, no nonsense comments please
[23:12] <By_Your_Command> sorry ikonia
[23:12] <By_Your_Command> it was funny though
[23:12] <Dzelzsbetons> Do you have any hardware?
[23:12] <velociostrich> apollo: what hardware is it that's not working?
[23:12] <archboxman> apollo: its not supported drivers look into hardware compatiblity
[23:12] <ikonia> apollo: you may not need to use that tool. What are you having a problem with
[23:12] <coz_> benofiniquity,   if no one can answer here  try  the #linux  channel
[23:12] <By_Your_Command> you need to see if the drivers are supported apollo
[23:12] <benofiniquity> coz_: thanks
[23:12] <velociostrich> apollo: the Ubuntu wiki has tons of lists of supported hardware
[23:12] <apollo> sound, wireless internet, ethernet port... thats what i know of so far. i'm running it on an hp mini 311
[23:12] <coz_> apollo,  also check if anything is black listed  for the wireless
[23:13] <velociostrich> apollo: you might try ndiswrapper for your wireless
[23:13] <velociostrich> but you'd have to get your hands on a windows driver
[23:13] <apollo> what is ndiswrapper
[23:13] <velociostrich> apollo: it's a wrapper (I guess that's the right term) for windows wireless drivers
[23:13] <Alan502> Why is it that Ubuntu Firefox modiffications addon doesn't let me open new pop up windows?
[23:14] <m0n0> clrg: I just had to set COLUMNS=XX LINES=XX :)
[23:14] <velociostrich> apollo: basically, it lets you use windows drivers for wireless
[23:14] <velociostrich> apollo: btw, some vendors _do_ offer linux drivers
[23:15] <By_Your_Command> yeah or you can get a ton of drivers in the RPM package repo
[23:15] <ikonia> By_Your_Command: rpm's are not supported
[23:15] <velociostrich> By_Your_Command: which RPM repo is that? you mean like red hat?
[23:15] <bazhang> By_Your_Command, not for ubuntu.
[23:15] <velociostrich> ikonia: you can use alien, can't you?
[23:15] <ikonia> velociostrich: not safley
[23:15] <velociostrich> ikonia: ah, I've never tried it
[23:15] <bazhang> By_Your_Command, please dont recommend that here
[23:15] <wyczo> yes
[23:16] <chilicuil> I've just set up an Ubuntu mirror repository in my LAN and it's incredible useful for the desktop machines I can "download" and install the most heavy linux games in few seconds @_@, but I've a little issue with my laptop, when I'm in my house I wanna download as fast as the rest of the machines but it keeps getting the packages from Internet, I've added my local repository in the first line of sources.list but there's no change, so I've to remo
[23:16] <apollo> ok sooo... step one? i'm working seperatly on my desktop right now with windows 7. my laptop doesnt have internet because of the drivers
[23:16] <sultanodag> sera
[23:16] <bazhang> !it | sultanodag
[23:16] <velociostrich> apollo: first thing you have to do is find out specifically what hardware your laptop has
[23:16] <velociostrich> apollo: like specifically what chipsets
[23:16] <sultanodag> qualcuno saprebbe spiegarmi perchè non mi funge il comando Isusb?
[23:17] <velociostrich> apollo: then you can ask your friend google for some advice :)
[23:17] <bazhang> sultanodag, /join #ubuntu-it for Italian
[23:17] <coz_> apollo,  one t hing to do is open a terminal and type    sudo  dmidecode    that should give you a godd idea of the hardware etc  on the system
[23:17] <velociostrich> apollo: or the Ubuntu wiki, as I've said before -- there's a lot of specific information there
[23:18] <velociostrich> coz_: that's a cool command -- I've never heard of that before but I'm looking at the man page now
[23:18] <coz_> velociostrich,  its an extremely helpful utility
[23:18] <r0k3tm3n> i have a Powemac G3 B&W and a powerbook g4, i cant get them to boot from the PPC image of ubuntu. i tried "boot:,/install/yaboot" but it said that it couldnt read the file. has anyone successfully installed ubuntu on either of these machines? i have searched the forums and web, but to no avail.... and i tried the powepc channel, but there is hardly anyone there.
[23:18] <Berzerker> is it possibly to upgrade the kernel to .32?
[23:18] <fuba88> dos this thng work
[23:18] <fuba88> ohh it does
[23:19] <velociostrich> apollo: sudo dmidecode seems to print a lot of stuff, so you might need to pipe it into less
[23:19] <velociostrich> apollo like so: "sudo dmidecode | less"
[23:19] <velociostrich> apollo: then you can use the arrow keys / jk to scroll around
[23:19] <velociostrich> btw, you don't use quotes
[23:19] <velociostrich> and by "jk" I mean the keys, not the acronym
[23:20] <sweetandy> Yeah, who uses arrow keys anymore. hjkl all the way
[23:20] <sweetandy> or C-n and C-p (as on ctrl+)
[23:20] <alexfregoe> hi
[23:20] <velociostrich> after getting used to vim, I can't stand using WSIYWIG editors and all their mouse-clickery
[23:21] <fuba88> what are you guys talking about
[23:21] <alexfregoe> alex out
[23:21] <velociostrich> fuba88: a number of programs use the hjkl keys instead of the arrow keys
[23:21] <bazhang> fuba88, ubuntu support ; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:21] <velociostrich> fuba88: like vim, less, and man
[23:21] <alexfregoe> peace
[23:21] <velociostrich> that's not to say that you can't use the arrows keys, but hjkl is far faster
[23:22] <Sargun_Screen> Where do I get man pages for the stdlib?
[23:22] <Aijse> how do I get something like man IRC to get all possible commands?
[23:22] <tudon> aijse google
[23:22] <alexfregoe> hi google
[23:23] <Aijse> google whats that?
[23:23] <velociostrich> Sargun_Screen: ooh, I'm not sure if you can get man pages for them 'cept for online
[23:23] <Aijse> :P
[23:23] <velociostrich> Sargun_Screen: you can try looking for -doc packages in the repository
[23:23] <tudon> scroogle what ever for a irc command list or something
[23:23] <velociostrich> Sargun_Screen: I know Mac OS X has them; I read them online on linux
[23:24] <alexfregoe> why wont you listen
[23:25] <velociostrich> Sargun_Screen: libstdc++6-4.4-doc looks promising
[23:26] <velociostrich> I take that back; I installed it and tried "man malloc" but it didn't find a man page
[23:26] <velociostrich> gtg guys
[23:26] <ke1ha> just tried to check out branch ubuntu-docs/karmic and got a strange error:
[23:26] <ke1ha> *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/python: corrupted double-linked list: 0x0eb31cc0 ***
[23:27] <ke1ha> any ideas on fixing that one ?
[23:28] <ke1ha> Nevermind, I'm gonna go over to bugs and see what they say.
[23:29] <lsdluna> hi, im relatively new to ubuntu, is there anyone who could kindly and patiently enough to guide me through installing SVN? I have followed some guides atm but doesn't seem to be getting anywhere?
[23:29] <methods22> can i configure how long the notifications stick around on my desktop ?
[23:30] <r0k3tm3n> anyone here install ubuntu on a PowePC architecture computer?
[23:30] <LinuxReign> lsdluna, what steps did you already performed?
[23:31] <blakkheim> !anyone | r0k3tm3n
[23:31] <blakkheim> lsdluna: open a terminal, type "sudo aptitude install subversion" and press enter - that's it
[23:32] <nothingness`> hey guys
[23:32] <r0k3tm3n> ubottu: then how do u suggest to start a question? and this isnt my first time... be careful with assumptions....
[23:32] <nothingness`> anybody knows whether we can monitor the threads of a process using monit ?
[23:32] <nothingness`> if yes, then how ?
[23:32] <Aijse> @r0k3tm3n lol
[23:33] <r0k3tm3n> Aijse: yeah, lol... dumb moment
[23:33] <Alan502> !DVD
[23:33] <cromat> @KittyBoots great name
[23:33] <escood-beef> Hi all
[23:33] <clicker4721> sup
[23:33] <r0k3tm3n> i am having trouble installing Ubuntu on a powerpc, anyone done this successfully?
[23:34] <cherva> does new kernels count as a security update ?
[23:34] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: Did you download the PowerPC version?
[23:34] <ikonia> depends on the reason for the update
[23:34] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: yes, it wont boot
[23:35] <sponzor> how to add user that haves permissions only using ftp? (FTP USER)
[23:35] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: you sure all the downing and burning went right?
[23:35] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: i tried "boot:,/install/yaboot"  but it just gave me a error
[23:35] <gregor_>  yes, it wont boot => then its burned wrong i guesss
[23:35] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: about to try a different version
[23:36] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: you sure all the downing and burning went right?
[23:36] <Spanglish_7776> r0k may want to check the md5 hash before and after burning
[23:37] <nothingness`> anybody can tell me how it is possible to monitor the threads of a process on ubuntu using monit ?
[23:37] <clicker4721> Spanglish_7776, r0k3tm3n: Indeed, the md5 check is the best way to check the files' reliability.
[23:37] <clicker4721> nothingness: personally, I just use system monitor
[23:37] <r0k3tm3n> Spanglish_7776: mac OS X does verifies the disk after burning... no errors
[23:37] <clicker4721> *the system monitor
[23:38] <nothingness`> clicker4721, I mean I wanted a higher level of monitoring
[23:38] <clicker4721> nohtingness: specifically?
[23:38] <nothingness`> Like if a thread in a process goes down, I restart the entire process, automatically, clicker4721
[23:38] <Spanglish_7776> faulty cd-dvd rom? maybe r0k does it boot anything else?
[23:38] <clicker4721> nothingness: Wow, I didn't even know you could do that!
[23:39] <nothingness`> oh
[23:39] <nothingness`> ok thanks for the help anyway .. monit does something similar, if you're interested :)
[23:39] <lsdluna> LinuxReign: I believe SVN is installed, and so is apache, however when i use http://<IP_ADDRESS>/svn/ says object not found
[23:39] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: i cant fit the 9.10 powerpc image on one cd argggg
[23:39] <tad1> how does one disable X on startup in 9.10, so as to login from the terminal? Nothing I have tried has worked
[23:40] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: try either multi-session, dvd, or usb
[23:40] <Jordan_U> !boot | tad1
[23:40] <r0k3tm3n> tad1: Crtl + Alt + 1
[23:40] <tudon> tad1 you can get command line from recovery mode
[23:40] <BHoward> @nothingness im not sure but doesnt the sighup kill signal restart the process with the same PID?
[23:40] <tudon> does your x crash?
[23:40] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: usb on a mac g3?  thats tricky
[23:40] <Jordan_U> tad1, You want to disable gdm auto start
[23:40] <KittyBoots> I am having significant trouble keeping grub in order.  I am dual booting Ubuntu and Windows 7.  After I use Windows and restart, grub reports that it cant start the system.  Then I boot into a live Ubuntu distro, and restart and grub works. Windows is doing something wierd with my harddrive.  I don't know how to fix this.
[23:41] <CyL> Hi, I'd like some advice on about how to get ubuntu to work dual headed.... I tried playing with xrandr, xorg.conf, but no success...
[23:41] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: dvd then
[23:41] <BHoward> I came in at the tail end of the conversation so im just posting from what i saw
[23:41] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: on a mac g3?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, What is the exact error you get from grub?
[23:41] <Spanglish_7776> tad1 maybe sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[23:42] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: i hate typing your name, btw. anyway...perhaps i'm not familiar with the hardware you're working with. why wouldn't dvd work if cd would?
[23:42] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: does open-firmware support dvd?  and type r0 then tab, auto complete. ;-)
[23:42] <fat_rat> hi @ll
[23:42] <jazz> i now have 2 hdd on a ribbon and one serial ata hdd how can i make the hdd on the ribbon boot up over the serial ata hdd?
[23:43] <fat_rat> netsplit?
[23:43] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: It is working now, I can't recreate the error now.
[23:43] <phazer11> Hey I need help adding another partition to the grub.cfg file
[23:43] <tad1> Spanglish_7776, i've tried removing gdm using the update-rc.d command, but it still does not work to disable the autostart
[23:43] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, Can remember any part of the error?
[23:44] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: I'm using X-Chat, that just displays those people in a readout. Anyway, I've honestly never heard of this open-frameware you speak of.
[23:44] <Jordan_U> phazer11, "update-grub" should add it automatically
[23:44] <Jordan_U> phazer11, If you are using grub2
[23:44] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: something about not having a bootable medium
[23:44] <ejcweb> I've got the latest release of Ubuntu installed, and the fan seems to be running permanently - is this a known problem? Or is there an easy fix? Thanks.
[23:44] <phazer11> it won't add yeah it's Grub 1.97 so technically 2
[23:44] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n, nm, r0k -> tab worked
[23:45] <Kismet> hey guys i get the message "enter password for default keyring to unlock" form account manager every time my laptop resumes from hibernation
[23:45] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, Ok, that's an error from the BIOS, which means that you aren't even getting to grub for some reason
[23:45] <khem_> can anybody give me advice on how i can map ctrl (25) + 3B to left tag and ctrl (25) + 3C to right tag aswell as ctrl (25) + 33 to pipe with  xmodmap?
[23:45] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: Open firmware is apples version of a BIOS on the PowePC architecture
[23:45] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: no it was after the post, it was a message from grub.
[23:45] <BHoward> @tad1 sudo vi +20 /etc/init/gdm.conf
[23:46] <BHoward> gdm starts on line 20
[23:46] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n, Oh! Um...you should simply have a boot from disc option, right? That doesn't specify DVD or CD...
[23:46] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, GRUB never gives an error like that, and the BIOS looks for a drive to boot from after POST
[23:46] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: i assume that you havent tried this before...
[23:47] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, Does your computer have some "media boot" or "recovery partition" feature?
[23:47] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n, obviously. Hey, I'm going to get into a chat with one of my Mac friends and see if I can extract the info from him. I'll be back as soon as the quest is completed.
[23:47] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: I was a message from grub, but since I cant recreate it I will just wait until it happens again and come back here with it.
[23:47] <piero> is oursql python package in some official repository?
[23:48] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: thanks, PM me k?
[23:48] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: Yes there is a recovery partition.
[23:48] <luap> I'm having trouble with installing SIP. Can anybody help?
[23:48] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n, You got it.
[23:48] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, Why are you so sure it was a message from grub? I have worked with the grub2 source and there is no error message like that.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, The closest thing would probably be "device not found"
[23:49] <nothingness`> luap, what SIP ?
[23:49] <r0k3tm3n> has anyone installed ubuntu on a PowerPC architecture computer?
[23:50] <luap> I'm trying to install Sip 4.10 for using PyQt
[23:50] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: I am trying to recall it from memory I didn't write it down and I am not sure exactly what it was, I just would not boot.
[23:50] <jazz> Jordan_U,  if you worked with grub on source then maybe you can help me aslo?
[23:50] <nothingness`> ah ok lu
[23:50] <nothingness`> luap, sudo apt-get install sip4 ?
[23:50] <nothingness`> doesn't work ?
[23:50] <Jordan_U> jazz, What problem are you having?
[23:50] <jazz> Jordan_U,  i got ubuntu on a 40hdd on a ribon but i keep getting the ubuntu on my sata hdd
[23:50] <Andy80> do you know if the Gwibber team as an official IRC channel?
[23:51] <nickie> hi, i need help with grub. I had vista installed on part1, seven on part2 and ubuntu on part3. I deleted part2 and expanded part1. now when I restarted my comp, I get grub error 17. what do I need to edit in my menu.lst to get grub to work?
[23:51] <jazz> Jordan_U,  there everyother  ubuntu is a memory check and finally my windows  what about my other ubuntu  hdd?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> nickie, Editing the menu.list won't help since grub isn't getting far enough to read it, you need to re-install grub.
[23:52] <Jordan_U> jazz, What version of Ubuntu?
[23:53] <jazz> both are 9.10
[23:54] <phazer11> AhH!!!!! well if I can't boot into Arch then I need more programs
[23:54] <jazz> Jordan_U,  short of unpluggin each drive to boot into the hdd i want...
[23:54] <phazer11> Like Encoding GUI
[23:54] <phazer11> for video
[23:54] <Jordan_U> jazz, Ok, boot the first entry ( since that is probably the one whose grub.cfg is being used ) and run "sudo update-grub". That should add the other Ubuntu install's entries.
[23:54] <nickie> when I reinstall grub, will it automatically find my vista partition? I cannot lose my windows, it has all my school stuff on it :(
[23:55] <KittyBoots> where can I go to learn about development of the Linux kernal?
[23:55] <tudon> phazer11 you mean something like handbrake
[23:56] <Jordan_U> jazz, You probably then want to boot into the other install and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc", that will ask you some questions, one of which is what drive you want grub to be installed to, make sure *none* are selected.
[23:56] <rodrigo_> ola manuel
[23:57] <Jordan_U> jazz, Actually, that second part isn't needed if the two installations are on different drives
[23:57] <phazer11> Kinda
[23:57] <Jordan_U> jazz, Just make sure that each Ubuntu installation is set to install to it's own drive, since the grub-pc package re-installs grub to the drive you select whenever it is upgraded


[00:32] <BugeyeD> _marx_: just checked in myself. you headed down this year?
[00:32] <BugeyeD> i'll definitely be picking up a mug :)
[00:32] <holstein> BugeyeD: i can sneak in right?
[00:32] <BugeyeD> yep, no cost to attend - though you should still register.
[00:33] <holstein> yeah, i dont see where to register
[00:33] <holstein> BugeyeD: i just register when i get there?
[00:34] <BugeyeD> look at the page - top right link in the header
[00:34]  * holstein looking at http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/registration
[00:35] <holstein> OH , i see it ;)
[00:35] <BugeyeD> holstein: you nearby?
[00:36] <holstein> asheville
[00:36] <holstein> and some things cancelled tomorrow
[00:36] <holstein> looks like i actually might be able to make it :)
[00:38] <BugeyeD> sweet. you should be able to pick me out of the crowd easily - i'll be the geeky guy walking around.
[00:38] <BugeyeD> oh, wait ...
[00:39] <holstein> lol
[00:39] <BugeyeD> i'll most likely be wearing an openbsd shirt. :)
[00:39] <BugeyeD> either that or a vintage vw bus shirt.
[00:39] <BugeyeD> i know i packed both of those, don't remember what else ...
[00:41] <BugeyeD> hotel gives me 9370Kbps down and 8503 up.
[00:42] <BugeyeD> bet that'll taper off once the other geeks start showing up
[01:35] <BugeyeD> argh! puppetlabs training was switched from friday to sunday. completely screws me up.


[19:26] <airurando> I met a friend I hadn't seen in a very long time tonight.  Amongst other things we chatted about the ubuntu 12.04 DVD I gave him fado to see if it would work on he very sick old widnows XP laptop.  It must have been over a year ago.  Anyway he is delighted with Ubuntu and recognises that it has given that old laptop a new lease of life.
[19:26] <airurando> I'm delighted with that response as I never reckoned he would give it a spin!
[19:34] <zmoylan-kr> you do wonder when you pass on a disk if it's ever used alright
[19:38] <airurando> yes indeed zmoylan-kr
[19:38] <zmoylan-kr> and with uefi i suspect they'll be used less and less :-(
[19:39] <airurando> :-(
[19:39] <airurando> as i hand them out currently i only promote them for pre windows 8 machines.


[01:38] <ali1234> aaaaaaargh something on my desk is making low battery sounds and i have no idea what it is
[02:15] <Azelphur> ali1234: man, bitcoin just trolled the hell out of me
[02:15] <Azelphur> that was terrifying xD
[02:15] <ali1234> oh? bear trap?
[02:15] <Azelphur> ali1234: price tanked from £30 to £22
[02:16] <Azelphur> ...right after I just bought £6000 worth
[02:16] <ali1234> hmm... is it time for me to buy back then?
[02:16] <Azelphur> nah you missed the ship really, back up at £27
[02:16] <Azelphur> (this all in the space of a couple hours)
[02:16] <ali1234> hmm :/
[02:16] <ali1234> yeah... its crazy
[02:16] <ali1234> i don't really pay attention to GBP price
[02:16] <ali1234> only USD
[02:17] <Azelphur> ali1234: doesn't matter which you follow really, everything follows USD because of arb bots.
[02:17] <ali1234> but yeah... sounds like classic bear trap
[02:17] <Azelphur> ali1234: this has certainly been one of the most interesting days so far I've had in bitcoin
[02:17] <Azelphur> that massive bounce
[02:17] <ali1234> true... i follow usd because it's usually in front
[02:17] <Azelphur> and my first cash in person tx
[02:17] <ali1234> then i have time to react on secondary currency
[02:17] <Azelphur> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l5uf0lr0udcjel5/2013-03-06%2015.48.16.jpg giving this to some random guy from the internet was fun
[03:35] <ali1234> Azelphur:  that's quite a wedge
[03:35] <Azelphur> indeed
[03:35] <ali1234> interesting times, i guess
[03:36] <Azelphur> for sure
[03:36] <ali1234> you still operating the GPU farm?
[03:36] <Azelphur> nah shut down ages ago
[03:37] <ali1234> i would be tempted to hit those alt chains...
[03:37] <ali1234> i only ever had the one 5870...
[03:38] <Azelphur> :)
[03:40] <ali1234> pretty much everyone i talk to on the internet has some bitcoins by now
[03:40] <ali1234> and that's basically what i do all day every day
[03:41] <ali1234> so i'd say stage 1: early adopters is a success
[03:41] <Azelphur> :D
[08:35] <jacobw> Morning
[09:00] <BigRedS> Good Morning!
[09:04] <jacobw> Hey BigRedS, how does it go?
[09:09] <Laney> pew
[09:19] <BigRedS> Barney McGrew?
[09:19] <BigRedS> jacobw: not bad! You?
[09:20] <jacobw> Also not bad :)
[09:20] <jacobw> Too much IRC, too little work
[09:20] <BigRedS> I've got no audio on this PC which is really nice since it stops empathy badgering me, but really annoying 'cause I keep missing IMs...
[09:20] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :-D
[09:21] <JamesTait> (Cuthbert, Dibble Grub?)
[09:23] <jacobw> Morning
[09:30] <BigRedS> jacobw: yes!
[09:30] <BigRedS> no, not you, JamesTait
[09:30] <JamesTait> Awww
[09:42] <redtape-renegade> What is the address of yesterdays l;og of this channel , Please ?
[09:42] <redtape-renegade> **log
[09:42] <AlanBell> !1984
[09:42] <AlanBell> ^^ best factoid trigger evar
[09:42] <redtape-renegade> popey, What was the address of that wordpress site you did about @Mir@ ?
[09:43] <redtape-renegade> **"Mir"
[09:43] <shauno> hah, yes!  someone else who's cursed with a yankee keyboard
[09:46] <MartijnVdS> shauno: cursed? Blessed!
[09:52] <dutchie> how can i remove windows from grub? exams coming up, need more than self-motivation to stay off games
[09:52] <MartijnVdS> dutchie: stop rebooting
[09:52] <dutchie> well there is that
[09:53] <dutchie> but y'know
[09:57] <directhex> dutchie, grub.cfg gets autogenerated
[09:58] <directhex> dutchie, you could erase /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober and run update-grub
[09:58] <SuperMatt> dammit ubuntu.com, why can't I find an iso for 12.04? I don't want 12.04.2 :(
[09:59] <dutchie> directhex: yeah, i just chmod -x'ed it
[09:59] <dutchie> thanks
[10:01] <Laney> SuperMatt: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/
[10:01]  * Laney refrains from asking why
[10:01] <SuperMatt> thanks!
[10:01] <SuperMatt> well, because I'm trying to replicate the way a server was installed
[10:36] <popey> redtape-renegade: wut?
[10:50] <MartijnVdS> Googly Eyes! :) https://plus.google.com/100189567362844794281/posts/T7e92hNN3H8
[10:57] <popey> :D
[11:00] <redtape-renegade> popey : got it .. http://t.co/b0XAUQie1Q
[11:01] <popey> ahh, Thomas Vo§ or however you do that S thing
[11:02] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[11:03] <Laney> ß ß ß
[11:04] <BigRedS> that's the most pleased looking kettle I've seen in a long time
[11:05] <redtape-renegade> Morning brobostigon ..
[11:05] <brobostigon> morning redtape-renegade
[11:06] <redtape-renegade> Qu.1 of  7609 : What did everyone think of the UDS ??
[11:23] <popey> b+ could do better
[12:02] <redtape-renegade> Seems legit  ... http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/coolship-an-android-desktop-computer-that-looks-like-a-keyboard
[12:18] <BigRedS> why would I want an Android PC?
[12:18] <BigRedS> Oh, the subtitle of that page makes it pretty clear who might want it
[12:20] <SuperMatt> people who want to play android games
[12:22] <DJones> I like that it describes it as "a hardware upgradeable android desktop computer" Can't be much you could upgrade in it
[12:22] <shauno> I thought these things were almost entire SOC
[12:23] <mgdm> maybe it will have RAM ports or something
[12:24] <shauno> unless they're using something like these "thumbstick mini-pcs" and the actually keyboard/chassis is a glorified peripheral
[12:29] <bigcalm_laptop> Ello peeps :)
[12:36] <bigcalm_laptop> MOT while I wait. Working while I wait. Laptops and 3g are a bad thing
[12:50] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm_laptop: this is why MiFi-like devices were invented ;)
[12:52] <bigcalm_laptop> MartijnVdS: I meant that with a combination of laptop and 3g, I'm working from the MOT centre when I could be relaxing instead.
[12:54] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm_laptop: Online games can be relaxing
[16:28] <candygirl> hey
[16:54] <ahayzen> 'With the unified look and feel of the user interface and core applications, Xperia Z and Xperia Tablet Z are the perfect pair.'...somehow sounds familiar ;)
[17:02] <mungbean> or the palm pre and hp touchpad
[17:02] <mungbean> they even had some fancy idea where you pressed the phone agains thte tablet and it did funky stuff
[17:12] <directhex> nfc, before nfc was a thing
[17:16] <shauno> palm had nfc back when nfc meant something quite inappropriate :/
[17:18] <directhex> i had a touchpad/pre3 combo, with the touch feature
[17:18] <directhex> one of, what, 10 people
[17:21] <shauno> I had a palm tungsten something, back when screens were squishy and resistive.  it turned me off smartphones for a long time
[17:56] <MartijnVdS> I had one as well
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> It crashed/full reset on me while I was on vacation in Berlin.. which kind of sucked
[22:22] <sebsebseb> Nice this girl I like, showed her some videos of Ubuntu 12.10 just now,  she said it looked neat and such
[22:22] <sebsebseb> so trying to get her to run the onilne demo
[22:30] <zleap> ok cool
[22:30] <zleap> online demo ?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> I zleapoh you don't know about it? http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/take-the-tour
[22:30] <sebsebseb> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/take-the-tour
[22:31] <sebsebseb> zleap: and I wanted to chat to you, but in one of our other channels or pm :d
[22:32] <zleap> ok
[22:40] <zleap> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21698765
[22:40] <zleap> look at the picture the far left looks like ubuntu sidebar


[01:22] <Venim> so apparently even the update for 9.10 makes my graphics card die
[01:22] <Venim> i should never update linux ever again...
[01:26] <likemindead> Bummer, Venim. What's the hardware?
[01:26] <Venim> nvm,
[01:26] <Venim> i reinstalled the drivers
[01:26] <Venim> but ati 5750
[01:26] <Venim> i really should've gone with an nvidia card :/
[01:27] <likemindead> Ah. Yes.
[01:27] <_Techie_> nvidia can cause just as many problems as ATI can
[01:27] <likemindead> I look forward to the day a GPU = a CPU.
[01:27] <likemindead> They're already redundant (CPUs, that is).
[01:27] <Venim> would be nice
[01:27] <_Techie_> likemindead, were already there
[01:27] <likemindead> Yup.
[01:28] <_Techie_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA
[01:31] <likemindead> Like it? http://imagebin.ca/img/WVWxX2.png
[07:24] <geoffrey_white> Hey all...  I'm not entirely sure what appropriate etiquette is on an IRC channel when requesting information/help, so I apologize in advance.
[07:25] <geoffrey_white> For some reason Panel (the program that manages the top and bottom panels that show-up on the desktop by default when you log-in to xubuntu) isn't loading-up anymore.
[07:25] <geoffrey_white> I have no idea how it happened, but I really would like it to come back.  Any ideas?
[07:33] <bazhang> !panels
[07:39] <geoffrey_white> Is that going to make sure that it comes back every time?
[07:40] <geoffrey_white> I'll restart to check.
[13:51] <slow-motion> hi
[15:23] <slow-motion> bbl
[18:13] <fuyao> java dont work on my xubuntu in firefox, my version 10.04
[18:13] <fuyao> how do i install?
[18:13] <Sysi> !java
[18:18] <fuyao> thanks guys it worked
[18:27] <maksimk0> does anyone know, would xubuntu work correctly on EEEtop allinone ?
[18:33] <maksimk0> DOES any one hear me?
[18:33] <Sysi> be patient
[18:33] <maksimk0> ok sorry
[18:33] <maksimk0> I've thinked noone hear me
[18:44] <slow-motion> re
[19:23] <subspider> hello
[19:23] <Raggs> hi
[19:55] <mikubuntu> can someone suggest a method or application to detect all hardware on a system?  i couldn't find anything in the software center exactly
[19:56] <moetunes> in terminal there's   sudo lshw   mikubuntu
[19:57] <moetunes> redirect it to a file with   sudo lshw > hware.txt
[19:57] <Sysi> lspci may also does
[19:58] <mikubuntu> moetunes: thanks, but i just installed for a newbie and was looking for an app to put on her menu .. someone suggested hardinfo
[19:58] <moetunes> ok
[20:02] <moetunes> !info lshw-gtk | mikubuntu
[20:11] <fuyao> im trying to install ultamatix, but the installer showed the following error message: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python2.5
[20:11] <fuyao> version of xubuntu is 10.04
[20:15] <moetunes> fuyao: looks like it wants python 2.5 but you have 2.6 iirc -   apt-cache policy python   in terminal will tell
[20:17] <fuyao> i have version 2.6.5 installed
[20:18] <fuyao> originally i just want to install java, but java will not work in my firefox no matter what, i heard ultamatix makes the installation easier so im trying to install it
[20:18] <fuyao> then i got to this
[20:19] <moetunes> sounds like ultimatix is a bit old then
[20:19] <moetunes> !java
[20:21] <fuyao> that what the other guy give me when i asked about java a while befoe
[20:21] <fuyao> and where do i enable the partener repo?
[20:24] <moetunes> open the synaptic package manager and there should be a menu entry for repos
[20:26] <fuyao> that is the problem, i installed java JRE 6, but when i test it on the web java game Javader, the game wont show up
[20:28] <fuyao> does xubuntu have some sort of VNC software so someone can take control of my desktop and help me with this
[20:28] <fuyao> im still to new for xubuntu
[21:09] <PrebenR> hi. After upgrading to xubuntu lucid, I got as expected new problems, unfortunately. My issue now is that on my asus eee laptop the acpid setup I had for the volume up and down keys no longer work. Did you migrate to something else?
[21:10] <Sysi> acpi has been removed but you can install it "back"
[21:11] <PrebenR> what is used now? So I can make a setup for that
[21:11] <Sysi> udev mostly
[21:11] <PrebenR> for the keyboard too?
[21:11] <Sysi> you could try just xfce's hotkey setup
[21:11] <Sysi> iirc
[21:11] <PrebenR> not using xfce
[21:12] <Sysi> i just expected about channel.. but yeah, udev afaik
[22:22] <PrebenR> Guess I have to google some more tomorrow. Difficult to find out how to setup the keys in udev
[22:25] <Minler> So I installed Xubuntu to fix a problem I was having and now I want to remove it and get the partition back, but when I tried to, it made it so my computer wouldn't boot to my main OS due to it removing the boot selection screen.  Had to reinstall Xu to get it back.  How do I remove it without it breaking my boot
[22:27] <PrebenR> first, why do you install when you can use a live image?
[22:27] <PrebenR> second, look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622828
[22:28] <PrebenR> I'm assuming you want windoze back?
[22:37] <slow-motion> fdisk /mbr
[22:59] <owen1> 2 questions:1. my video out button is not working after installing lucid. what can i do to watch stuff on my tv?
[23:02] <owen1> 2. how to change the alt+f2 to somethning else? (i can't find a way to do it in the 'keyboard -> application shortcuts')
[23:10] <slow-motion> n8