[01:04] <CIA-3> os-prober: cjwatson * r230 ubuntu/ (4 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.29
[01:08] <CIA-3> os-prober: cjwatson * r231 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.29ubuntu1
[01:22] <CIA-3> oem-config: cjwatson * r633 trunk/debian/ (59 files in 2 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[01:26] <CIA-3> oem-config: cjwatson * r634 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.54.9
[01:27] <CIA-3> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3106 ubiquity/debian/ (79 files in 2 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[02:17] <shtylman> so dmraid fails for me on the ich10r for some reason...it doesn't recognize the metadata
[03:20] <TheMuso> shtylman: What version of Ubuntu/dmraid?
[03:21] <shtylman> jaunty with dmraid 1.0.0.rc15
[03:21] <shtylman> I am trying to find the offset manually now and patch dmraid...to see if that helps any
[03:22] <shtylman> TheMuso: ^
[03:22] <TheMuso> shtylman: ok
[03:31] <shtylman> ok...so I have got it to locate the metadata...but now it appears to not be able to readi t
[03:31] <shtylman> *read it
[03:31] <shtylman> or doesn't recognize it...maybe
[03:31] <shtylman> I am gonna try to use dmraid to write new metadata and see if bios will recognize that...
[03:40] <TheMuso> shtylman: Ok, how old is the board?
[03:40] <shtylman> brand new
[03:41] <shtylman> its a gigabyte ex58-ud3r
[03:41] <shtylman> for core i7
[03:41] <TheMuso> hrm ok.
[03:42] <shtylman> well, I got the "could not find fdisk /dev/sda in the metadata" messade to go away
[03:42] <shtylman> but now it just says "no raid disks"
[03:42] <shtylman> so I am wondering if it doesn't read the metadata right
[03:42] <TheMuso> Oh, do you happen to have an HPA?
[03:42] <shtylman> or if I havn't setup any disks (which I am quite sure I have...but am now second guessing myself... :/)
[03:42] <shtylman> hpa?
[03:42] <TheMuso> host protected area
[03:43] <shtylman> no idea
[03:43] <TheMuso> a hidden area on one of your hard drives
[03:43] <TheMuso> ok
[03:43] <shtylman> not that I know of
[03:43] <shtylman> they are brand new as well
[03:43]  * TheMuso digs through his email to find the command-line flag to turn it off
[03:43] <shtylman> they are SSD disks...if that makes any difference
[03:44] <TheMuso> It shouldn't.
[03:44] <shtylman> k
[03:44] <TheMuso> this is worth a try anyway
[03:44] <shtylman> k
[03:46] <TheMuso> hrm can't find it atm
[03:57] <TheMuso> shtylman: Do you have a good reason to use dmraid? If you are not dual booting, I suggest you use Linux Software RAID.
[03:58] <shtylman> TheMuso: thats what it looks like it might be coming down to
[03:58] <shtylman> I was just hoping to get it to work...you know...for the sake of it
[03:58] <shtylman> If I get fed up enough, I might just do the software raid
[04:05] <TheMuso> shtylman: dmraid has no rebuilding of degraded arrays, or should I say, its not as good as Linux Software RAID
[04:05] <shtylman> TheMuso: yea..I know...but this will be for raid0
[04:06] <TheMuso> fair enough
[04:06] <shtylman> so I don't know that I would ever rebuild anything :)
[04:10] <TheMuso> yeah
[04:12] <shtylman> so what I am discovering with hexdump is that they have changed their on disk format it seems...
[04:16] <TheMuso> Great...
[04:16] <shtylman> well...actually...i think it gets better
[04:17] <shtylman> and I can't say with 100% cetainty...but I think the way the intel write/read uses the offset varies
[04:17] <shtylman> because for writing I think it may be used one way
[04:17] <shtylman> and for reading another...
[04:17] <shtylman> like one was used as if it was sectors and another as if it was bytes
[04:25] <TheMuso> right
[04:27] <shtylman> so the difference seems to be in how the two write the drive serial number
[04:28] <shtylman> dmraid write all but the last digit
[04:28] <shtylman> and the mobo code wrote all but the first letter
[04:28] <shtylman> I dunno why there is a deference but it would account for mobo not being able to detect dmraid created disks
[04:39] <TheMuso> There has been a patch added to Debian recently to address something like that, I need to pull it into Ubuntu actually.
[04:44] <shtylman> interesting...
[04:47] <shtylman> patch 14
[04:47] <shtylman> look at last comment on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/267953
[04:48] <shtylman> TheMuso: ^
[04:49] <TheMuso> shtylman: yeah I am aware of that
[04:50] <shtylman> where can I get just the patch file?
[04:51] <TheMuso> from the debian dmraid git repo: git://git.debian.org/git/users/derevko-guest/dmraid.git
[04:51] <shtylman> thanks
[04:52] <TheMuso> np
[04:59] <shtylman> if I put it in the debian/patches directory...will it get auto applied when I do a dpkg-buildpackage?
[05:06] <TheMuso> no, you need to add it to debian/patches/series
[05:06] <shtylman> k
[05:26] <shtylman> TheMuso: I have been installing ubuntu over and over for hours now...with that patch applied...it finally worked :) ... me is happy
[05:26] <TheMuso> great
[05:26]  * TheMuso is putting that patch into a new dmraid upload now.
[05:26] <shtylman> ^. ... very good... :)
[05:27] <shtylman> that will make others happy too
[05:27] <TheMuso> yeah
[05:28] <shtylman> (and you wanted to know why dmraid over software raid) ... with dmraid I don't need a raid1 /boot partition...I cna just do / on the whole thing and it works
[05:33] <TheMuso> Yeah thats understandable.
[05:36] <shtylman> now I need to peg dmraid and prevent apt from updating it..until the patch gets built and all
[05:36] <shtylman> and off I go
[05:37] <shtylman> and finally tomorrow I can get back to work on ubiquity...having used it heavily...I see some more things I need to fix :)
[05:37] <TheMuso> heh cool
[10:46] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1405 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog tasksel.pl):
[10:46] <CIA-3> tasksel: Beef up Enhances support to be able to handle disjunctive Enhances. A
[10:46] <CIA-3> tasksel: task with "Enhances: a | b | c" will be installed if any of a, b, or c
[10:46] <CIA-3> tasksel: are installed (LP: #326501).
[11:23] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3107 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog):
[11:23] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Only create one virtual desktop when in only-ubiquity mode
[11:23] <CIA-3> ubiquity: (LP: #343451).
[11:26] <cjwatson> yay, I was just thinking about that the other day
[11:26] <evand> heh
[12:20] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1406 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog tasksel.pl):
[12:20] <CIA-3> tasksel: Avoid slow computations due to the fix for LP #150252 when there are no
[12:20] <CIA-3> tasksel: tasks to be removed.
[12:23] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1407 ubuntu/tasksel.pl: ignore disjunctive sets when marking enhanced tasks for installation, since we don't know which element(s) we should use
[12:26] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1408 ubuntu/ (tests/limited debian/changelog):
[12:26] <CIA-3> tasksel: tests/limited: New test which can be used to select tasks by default
[12:26] <CIA-3> tasksel: when particular other tasks are listed in tasksel/limit-tasks.
[12:29] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1409 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog tasksel.pl):
[12:29] <CIA-3> tasksel: Don't explicitly mark enhancing tasks as not to be installed when hiding
[12:29] <CIA-3> tasksel: them. This will be done anyway by other code in new-install mode, while
[12:29] <CIA-3> tasksel: in new-install mode we may want to apply a test (such as the new
[12:29] <CIA-3> tasksel: "limited" test) to an enhancing task that installs it by default even if
[12:29] <CIA-3> tasksel: the packages it enhances are not installed.
[12:39] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1410 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog ubuntu-tasks/ubuntustudio-desktop):
[12:39] <CIA-3> tasksel: Update Ubuntu tasks from seeds; ubuntustudio-desktop now takes advantage
[12:39] <CIA-3> tasksel: of the above facilities.
[12:43] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1411 ubuntu/debian/changelog: all this fixes LP: #148078 too
[12:44] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1412 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.73ubuntu18
[13:00] <evand> cjwatson: given that only-ubiquity now full screens and uses a single desktop, would you consider bug 321212 fixed, or do you think the option should be suppressed when ubiquity is run from the desktop as well?
[13:13] <cjwatson> evand: when it's run from the desktop, the workspace switcher is visible, so I would say we should leave the run-from-desktop case as it is
[13:17] <evand> cjwatson: so to clarify, you don't think any more changes should be made, and you consider that bug fixed by extension?
[13:18] <cjwatson> yeah, I do
[13:18] <evand> ok, thanks
[13:18] <cjwatson> IOW, although they aren't quite duplicates, I think you can put both bug numbers in the changelog for the one change
[13:46] <CIA-3> user-setup: cjwatson * r164 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog functions.sh): Consider a password of ! in shadow for root to be unset (LP: #340841).
[13:52] <superm1> cjwatson, when you get some free moments, i wanted to ask if you could look over bug 341526?  it's eventual intention is to get it into a development release and backport to be supported in 8.04.3.
[13:52] <superm1> it would be a new feature however, so it might be a little late for jaunty
[13:53] <cjwatson> superm1: isn't this just a variant of the driver disk support we already have in casper?
[13:53] <superm1> cjwatson, this is for alternate/server disks
[13:54] <cjwatson> sure
[13:54] <superm1> thanks
[13:54] <cjwatson> it would be nice if they accepted the same format
[13:55] <cjwatson> I don't like the hardcoded "/ubuntu" in the path; that should be conditional
[13:55] <cjwatson> (the more patches I can get upstream the better)
[13:56] <cjwatson> if [ ! -z "$dir" ]; then if [ -d "$dir" ]; then ...; fi; fi  =>  if [ "$dir" ] && [ -d "$dir" ]; then ...; fi
[13:56] <superm1> well the core at putting the ubuntu/ in it was because these USB disks may have several different OS drivers on them, so it would be more clear what OS drivers were what
[13:56] <cjwatson> I don't object to /ubuntu being on the filesystem,
[13:57] <cjwatson> but I would prefer it not to be hardcoded in the code
[13:57] <superm1> ah
[13:58] <cjwatson> you could lower-case DISTRIB_ID from /etc/lsb-release perhaps
[13:58] <cjwatson> localechooser has safe shell code for reading it
[13:58] <superm1> ah didn't realize that
[13:59] <cjwatson> casper uses /ubuntu-drivers/ rather than /ubuntu/
[13:59] <cjwatson> I think because that avoids clashing with Ubuntu CDs
[14:00] <superm1> well the spec has certainly not been locked down for the ubuntu implementation, so that should be fine to use instead then
[14:01] <superm1> it may be worthwhile to add similar lsb stuff to casper as I'm thinking too
[14:01] <cjwatson> yeah, I'm just in the middle of saying that on the bug :-)
[14:01] <cjwatson> I agree
[14:04] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3108 ubiquity/debian/changelog: Add a bug number to the changelog entry.
[14:23] <CIA-3> user-setup: cjwatson * r165 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.23ubuntu15
[14:26] <cjwatson> superm1: how did the Atom testing for bug 335596 go?
[14:27] <superm1> cjwatson, the proto I used unfortunately had an unrelated failure on it's SSD yesterday, so I'm getting a new one this morning
[14:27]  * cjwatson nods
[14:56] <CIA-3> grub-installer: cjwatson * r773 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): cciss and ida logical drive numbers may go up to 15, not just 9.
[14:58] <davmor2> evand: I'm about to test wubi on vista again but I thought I'd check if that ubiquity fix went in :)
[15:00] <evand> it did indeed
[15:00] <evand> but only on the i386 CD
[15:01] <evand> the Ubuntu amd64 CD has an out of date live filesystem
[15:01] <davmor2> evand ta :)
[15:04] <CIA-3> lilo-installer: cjwatson * r433 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog postinst): cciss and ida logical drive numbers may go up to 15, not just 9.
[15:21] <soren> cjwatson: A while ago, there was a bit of talk about a company that was making server-ish live cd's with an option to install Ubuntu from it as well. I think they called the installer bit d-i/live or something like that. I seem to remember that you took a look at it. Do you remember anything at all about it?
[15:36] <davmor2> evand: vista side has gone ok but still no eject
[15:37] <evand> davmor2: indeed, that's expected
[15:47] <davmor2> evand: Yay \o/
[15:49] <evand> it worked?
[15:52] <davmor2> evand: I have Ubuntu installed on vista yes :) I am going to try and remove it now and then try again with Kubuntu :)
[15:55] <cjwatson> soren: it doesn't ring a bell. Debian has a live-installer extension to d-i but it isn't server-oriented
[15:55] <soren> cjwatson: Ok. I just thought I guided them over here, but perhaps not. Thanks anyway.
[15:55] <davmor2> evand: kubuntu's password page just shot across the screen it's about 2/3's bigger than the other windows.  The line Enter the same password twice is the culprit I think it should be split and isn't.  Would you like a screenshot?
[16:00] <davmor2> evand: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/passpage.png
[16:03] <evand> cute
[16:03] <evand> can you please file a bug for that?
[16:46] <davmor2> evand: np's
[16:50] <davmor2> evand: nice post :)
[16:51] <evand> thanks
[16:53] <CIA-3> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r701 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog lib/resize.sh):
[16:53] <CIA-3> partman-partitioning: get_real_device: Add support for /dev/vd*, /dev/xvd*, /dev/cciss/*,
[16:53] <CIA-3> partman-partitioning: /dev/ida/*, and /dev/mmcblk* (LP: #282756).
[16:57] <davmor2> evand: bug 344382
[16:57] <evand> davmor2: thanks
[16:57] <davmor2> np's
[17:01] <evand> so d-i currently doesn't handle there not being any disks available for partitioning in a friendly way.  Any objection to me attempting to tackle this via an error question?
[17:03] <evand> it also seems that my recent change to partman-base is slightly broken on the alternate CD.  I'll look into that further tomorrow.
[17:20] <cjwatson> evand: I thought disk-detect already did that
[17:21] <cjwatson> evand: you could drop the module_select question to medium and change its default to "none of the above", I suppose
[17:22] <cjwatson> which would have the effect of dropping straight through to the cannot_find question that's already there
[17:22] <davmor2> evand: Wubi uninstall is worse than ever I can't even remove it from the cd now :(  I've add the log to bug 341605
[18:01] <mpt> evand, again, I'm terribly sorry
[22:40] <CIA-3> wubi: Agostino Russo * r99 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Use unicode by default in gettext translations (LP: #344151)
[23:49] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r140 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog init.d/parted):
[23:49] <CIA-3> partman-base: Tweak partman/unmount_active substitution handling to cope with more
[23:49] <CIA-3> partman-base: than two disks.


[00:00] <youAreNotFOSS> ty. KDE works like a charm
[00:01] <youAreNotFOSS> i just hope the day never comes that the OS supports software that needs a newer more common hardware
[00:02] <youAreNotFOSS> bought my computer '10
[01:10] <binary> Bah does anybody know why I am not able to apply themes in emerald? I installed compiz etc and I still can't just select a theme and have it change.
[01:11] <maco> erm....because emerald is buggy as hell and hasnt been supported or maintained in at least 3 years?
[01:12] <binary> Well that's one answer. Not the one I am looking for but none theless a answer.
[01:12] <binary> You use compiz fusion instead?
[01:13] <maco> emerald is just a window decorator for beryl (which is now gone, merged with compiz to form compiz fusion)
[01:13] <binary> Because I can't seem to get that working without breaking my windows and force closing :/
[01:13] <binary> the other 2 decorators won't even run :/
[01:13] <maco> you get no window decorations AT ALL with compiz??
[01:14] <binary> I am not even sure I have this crap installed right >.>
[01:14] <binary> not anymore at least
[01:14] <maco> kde-window-decorator should just give you normal kwin decorations but maybe with some compositing added on (same as simply turning on kwin's effects which are very similar to compiz's)
[01:14] <binary> I can't find up to dat documentation
[01:14] <binary> Ok so what do you use to get all those snazzy themes off of kde look?
[01:14] <maco> and gtk-window-decorator will look like metacity decorations but with some compositing
[01:15] <maco> i would guess kde-look would be having kwin themes
[01:15] <maco> and qt themes
[01:15] <binary> I see
[01:15] <binary> Hmm.
[01:15] <binary> Well I can't seem to have it seect a theme
[01:15] <binary> even using kwin
[01:15] <binary> it's the wierdest thing
[01:15] <maco> hang on a sec
[01:15] <binary> ok
[01:16] <maco> if you go system settings -> workspace appearance
[01:16] <maco> it should list a bunch of decorations
[01:16] <maco> and at the bottom you have "get new decorations" which is an interface to pull more from kde-look
[01:17] <binary> ohhhhhhhhh
[01:17] <binary> wow
[01:17] <binary> wtf so simple
[01:17] <binary> thanks
[01:17] <FloodBotK2> binary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <maco> no problem
[02:42] <sri13> hi to all , where can i find help regarding to ns-2 network simulator
[04:13] <luis_> hello everyone i am using kubuntu hardy and i like to upgrade kde3.5.10 can somebody tell me how to do this please, i have been googling it but the directions that i have found so far won't work at all
[04:15] <Corin> What version of Kubuntu are you in? O_o
[04:15] <maco> Corin: he just said hardy...
[04:15] <maco> aka 8.04
[04:15] <maco> the last release to include kde3
[04:15] <maco> also...not supported
[04:16] <maco> kubuntu 8.04 was not lts and so has not been supported since october 2009
[04:16] <Corin> Oh.
[04:16] <luis_> kubuntu hardy
[04:16] <Corin> I see.
[04:16] <Corin> Wait.
[04:16] <Corin> I thought 8.04 was still supported...
[04:17] <Corin> Isn't that LTS?
[04:17] <maco> *ubuntu* and *xubuntu* 8.04 are LTS
[04:17] <maco> *kubuntu* 8.04 was not
[04:17] <Corin> Oh.
[04:17] <Corin> I see.
[04:17] <luis_> so i am screw?
[04:17] <maco> because it only had as kde options the 3.x branch which kde was dropping support for and the 4.x branch which was a developer release and not well-supported or very usable to start with
[04:18] <luis_> then there's no way that i can upgrade kde
[04:18] <luis_> :(
[04:18] <maco> except to kde 4...
[04:19] <maco> there's one person trying to maintain kde 3
[04:19] <maco> i *think* he's still going at it
[04:19] <maco> but i have no idea how it is or about the state of packages or anything
[04:19] <luis_> i actually don't want to but the thing is that the newest kubuntu release is kinda heavy for my old pc and it does slow down every thing i wan to do
[04:21] <maco> there's a new ubuntu derivative that's very lightweight called Lubuntu that you could try
[04:21] <maco> it uses LXDE with OpenBox
[04:21] <luis_> i see
[04:21] <luis_> let's take a look
[04:21] <luis_> thing is kubuntu is lovely :)
[04:22] <luis_> does this lubuntu has a website? cause i can't find it
[04:23] <luis_> soory
[04:23] <luis_> just find it
[04:23] <luis_> :P
[04:23] <Corin> lol
[04:23] <Corin> Wasn't Xubuntu supposed to be *lightweight*?
[04:23] <Corin> lol
[04:23] <Corin> Now it's less efficient than Ubuntu, isn't it?
[04:24] <luis_> xubuntu don't like it at all
[04:24] <luis_> nor even ubuntu is to heavy
[04:24] <luis_> i love kubuntu
[04:24] <luis_> and this lubuntu looks pretty much like xubuntu
[04:25] <luis_> it looks like a weird combo between gnome desktop and xubuntu
[04:25] <luis_> actually it uses gnome
[04:25] <luis_> as i can see
[04:26] <luis_> but lightweight
[04:26] <luis_> hahahaha even the guy giving the tutorial in lubuntu gets confuse :P
[04:32] <Corin> lol
[04:32] <Corin> I didn't like Gnome.
[04:33] <Corin> I'm a KDE user for life, no matter which distro I'm using. :)
[05:21] <ubuntu_> good nite to you all
[05:22] <ubuntu_> i need help please i did delete libc and i loose a lot of thing on my OS, how can i restore everything? is there anyway to go back to the wey it use to be before deleting it?
[05:22] <ubuntu_> libc6*
[05:23] <ubuntu_> right now i am using live cd
[05:23] <ubuntu_> hel pls
[05:28] <DarthFrog> ubuntu_: Your best option would be to re-install.  You have really mucked up your system by deleting libc which, next to the kernel, is pretty much the most important package in the system.
[05:29] <ubuntu_> i know but how do i do that
[05:29] <DarthFrog> The same way you originally installed the system.  Just install it again.
[05:29] <ubuntu_> like i said i am using live cd other wise i cant use my pc
[05:30] <ubuntu_> it need to be connceted to internet and it is not
[05:30] <DarthFrog> You can use the LiveCD.
[05:31] <ubuntu_> i see
[05:31] <ubuntu_> but how_
[05:31] <DarthFrog> There should be an icon on your desktop to install to the hard drive.
[05:32] <ubuntu_> kubuntu has no icon on desktop
[05:33] <DarthFrog> How did you install Kubuntu in the first place?  Do that again.
[05:34] <ubuntu_> so you mean to resintall it again
[05:34] <ubuntu_> _-
[05:34] <ubuntu_> ???
[05:34] <DarthFrog> Yes, that's what I told you originally.
[05:34] <ubuntu_> like doing a fresh new installatioon_
[05:35] <ubuntu_> ??
[05:35] <Corin> Yes.
[05:35] <DarthFrog> Are you now clear on the concept?
[05:35] <Corin> You might wanna back up your files first though, if you can. :P
[05:35] <ubuntu_> yes thanks
[05:36] <ubuntu_> my question was that if it is possible to restore the system to the way it use be wothout the need to resintall
[05:36] <ubuntu_> that was my questions
[05:36] <ubuntu_> do fresh installation i know how to
[05:36] <ubuntu_> other wise i wouldnt be asking
[05:37] <Corin> You could devote your life to building a time machine...
[05:38] <ubuntu_> i see only windows has that advantage
[05:38] <ubuntu_> thanks anyway
[05:38] <Corin> ...
[08:46] <Guest22860> hello
[08:46] <Guest22860> How do I change my password
[08:46] <Guest22860> ?
[08:47] <Corin> In kubuntu?
[08:47] <Guest22860> I am using konversation in ubuntu
[08:47] <Corin> Oh.
[08:47] <Guest22860> I haven't tried xchat yet
[08:47] <Guest22860> I know I am guest
[08:48] <Guest22860> but I have a registered nick I want to change the password of
[08:48] <tsimpson> Guest22860: if you have forgotten your password for your freenode account, you need to /join #freenode and ask for a staff member to send a password reset email
[08:48] <Guest22860> no I haven't fogot my password
[08:49] <tsimpson> Guest22860: then you should identify to the account first "/msg NickServ identify <account> <password>" then use "/msg NickServ set password <new_password>"
[08:51] <Guest22860> I was on Pleasuredome which I guess registered me, however right after that it had the you can register with this code which for now I have been copying and pasting so I did and realized that they saw my password which shouldn't be a big deal because I am just a normal user who doesn't care all that much but it would be nice to know and thank you for the code you just posted
[08:51] <Guest22860> ya I know, stupid
[08:52] <Guest22860> thank you very much
[08:53] <Guest22860> I didn't realize what happened until it was too latte
[08:53] <Guest22860> latte, ha ha
[08:53] <Guest22860> thank you and good bye
[08:57] <Guest22860> is account suppose to be my nick or the email address I used for signing up my nick with?
[08:58] <Guest22860> hello
[08:58] <Guest22860> sorry
[09:44] <pemeon> hi I have error then I'm compilig app it dosen't find /usr/lib/libGL.so how can I install it ?
[09:45] <yofel> you want to install libgl1-mesa-dev
[09:46] <yofel> you also want to install apt-file, 'apt-file find /usr/lib/libGL.so' will tell you that you need libgl1-mesa-dev for it
[09:53] <valorie> yofel, what a great tip!
[09:54]  * valorie adds it to the blog
[09:54] <valorie> may I use your name, or should I anonymize it?
[09:54] <tsimpson> you know, packages.ubuntu.com has the same function
[09:54] <yofel> sadly doesn't work with PPAs though since the LP folks didn't implement the Contents.gz it needs yet :S
[09:54] <tsimpson> as does ubottu :)
[09:55] <pemeon> yofel: but I have file libGL.so  but still same error
[09:55] <valorie> I always forget how to ask ubottu politely enough to get the answer I want
[09:55] <yofel> !find libGL.so
[09:55] <pemeon> yofel : cmake .. works fine but make dosen't works
[09:56] <yofel> pemeon: odd...
[09:56] <tsimpson> !find usr/lib/libGL.so
[09:56] <pemeon> ok I try to reinstall this package
[09:57] <ct529> hi there! I have a serious problem with audio .... I have found the right configuration, added the options to alsa-base.conf .... all well the first time and when I rebooted yesterday, but the behaviour is random .... some times I have all controls, some other times not, back to basic  .... alsamixer and amixer recognise everything properly, so does pulseaudio .... it must be phonon
[09:58] <pemeon> yofel : http://paste.kde.org/4175/ - I get this
[09:59] <ct529> I am using kubuntu 1004 lts 64 bit .... the card is Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[10:00] <ct529> the codec is SigmaTel STAC9205
[10:00] <ct529> any clue?
[10:02] <valorie> tsimpson and yofel, any problem with being quoted, or shall I anonymize?
[10:03] <Peace-> ct529: hey
[10:03] <ct529> Peace-: hey!!
[10:03] <valorie> ct529: you might try #phonon
[10:03] <tsimpson> valorie: I have no problem being quoted
[10:03] <valorie> although apachelogger is at FOSDEM
[10:03] <tsimpson> this is a publicly logged channel after all :)
[10:03] <valorie> oh right
[10:03] <valorie> lol
[10:03] <Peace-> ct529: what's you problem ? audio ah?
[10:04] <Peace-> ct529: explain i am just log in
[10:04] <ct529> Peace-: yes .... driving me mad
[10:04] <Peace-> loggin
[10:04] <ct529> valorie: thanks
[10:04] <Peace-> ct529: so what? no audio ?
[10:04] <yofel> valorie: me neither ;)
[10:05] <yofel> pemeon: no idea, I guess you're missing something, but I don't know what :S
[10:05] <ct529> Peace-:  have found the right configuration, added the options to alsa-base.conf .... all well the first time and when I rebooted yesterday, but the behaviour is random .... some times I have all controls, some other times not, back to basic  .... alsamixer and amixer recognise everything properly, so does pulseaudio .... it must be phonon
[10:06] <ct529> yofel: card?
[10:06] <pemeon> yofel: I forgoten to say that everything was fine but I updated os and reinstalled ati drivers
[10:06] <ct529> pemeon: what happened there?
[10:06] <yofel> pemeon: so it fails after the updates?
[10:06] <pemeon> ct529 : I get error then I try to recompile app which I could compile before
[10:06] <yofel> try to do a clean cmake/make
[10:07] <Peace-> ct529: mmm have you tried to remove pulse?
[10:07] <pemeon> ct529: I get this http://paste.kde.org/4175/
[10:07] <pemeon> yofel: I tried this eve I deleted /build direcotry
[10:08] <ct529> Peace-: that is quite harsh .... half ot eh applications stop working, including skype
[10:08] <Peace-> ct529: ah,,,
[10:09] <Peace-> ct529:  try to install these
[10:09] <Peace-> ct529: pavucontrol  paprefs  paman
[10:09] <ct529> pemeon: did you install the opengl libraries, including headers?
[10:10] <pemeon> ct529: I installed fglrx-dev and cmake .. don't return errors
[10:11] <ct529> Peace-: already done
[10:11] <Peace-> ct529: phonon-backend-vlc ?
[10:11] <ct529> pemeon: cmake?
[10:11] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2011/02/finding-missing-packages-three-methods.html
[10:11] <ct529> Peace-: I do not have that in my repository
[10:12] <pemeon> ct529: yep this error I get then I'm trying to compile by make but cmake .. works fine before if I didn't had any libs it shows me that
[10:12] <Peace-> ct529: kubuntu version ?
[10:13] <ct529> Peace-: 1004 lts 64bit
[10:14] <Peace-> ct529: :(
[10:17] <ct529> pemeon: was the LD_LIBRARY_PATH updated after installation?
[10:34] <valorie> !find backend-vlc
[10:34] <pemeon> ct529: how can I do this ?
[10:35] <ct529> pemeon: it should have been done originally, but I am not sure this is the error
[10:35] <ct529> pemeon: did you google for it?
[10:35] <pemeon> ct529: yep but I didn't foud anything which can help me
[10:35] <ct529> pemeon: you can do export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/path_to_your_library
[10:36] <ct529> pemeon: before running ake
[10:36] <ct529> pemeon: sorry, make
[10:36] <pemeon> ct529: It dosen't help the worst is that I have lilbary in this path
[10:38] <ct529> pemeon: oh
[10:38] <ct529> pemeon: from your message it actually seems that there is no rule to make it
[10:38] <pemeon> ct529: ok I try to reinstall ati drivers
[10:39] <ct529> valorie: unfortunately, that is only for maverick not for 1004 lts (which sounds more like long time forgotten, so it should be ltf)
[10:39] <valorie> so true
[10:40] <valorie> it is possible to build it from source, if you are willing to do so
[10:40] <valorie> I do
[10:40] <valorie> for testing purposes
[10:58] <jann__> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER jann_kiriubisgidk
[10:58] <Tm_T> jann__: you might like to change the password now
[10:58] <jann__> I think so too :-)
[10:58] <jann__> First time trying this.
[10:59] <Tm_T> jann__: also, such things are best done in server window, so no accidents should happen (:
[11:45] <__-osh-__> How can I find out what char encoding a file has? It displays some strange inverted-questionmark-in-a-box as part of the name. How can I fix this so that I can use rsync?
[11:49] <danboid> Where is the correct place to post ideas for buntu? I presume on launchpad somewhere?
[11:51] <rork> !brainstorm | danboid
[11:52] <danboid> thanks rork!
[11:52] <rork> you're welcome
[11:53] <danboid> I expect we'll see more people switching to kubuntu and xubuntu for 11.04
[11:54] <danboid> How dare they deviate from the desktop of 85? ;)
[11:56] <rork> I think it's called innovation, doing stuff radically different and putting small computer touchscreens into everything
[11:57] <paytam> my keyboard shortcut doesn't work(such as Alt+Tab). I don't know why.I configure the global shortcut to default, but nothing happened.Do you have any suggestion?
[12:04] <danboid> rork, I'm sure I don't need to tell you that people are wary of change- hence most everyone still using Windows
[12:05] <danboid> I had a go with unity in Maverick- bleugh. I'll need to try NN's unity before I pass judgement but I think I'll be going xubuntu for 11.04
[12:07] <danboid> I'm just one of those who wants his RAM for apps not a shiny DE. Thunar is great, especially now it can browse FTP, SSH, samba shares etc. Woop!
[12:08] <rork> yes I know, still I think it's great they're trying something way different although it feels kinda bad forcing setting it as default. Maybe we should continue this discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:09] <danboid> rork, s'ok I've said my piece now. I've just signed up for brainstorm and about to post my killer feature :)
[12:18] <vickie> when I try to update the system from a fresh install I get this: Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend. Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open. W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 E: Error http://us.archive.ubuntu.
[12:18] <vickie> com maverick Release
[12:18] <vickie> how do I fix this
[12:25] <kaddi> hi, I'm looking for a decent offline dictionary for ubuntu
[12:29] <Peace-> kaddi: mmm there is
[12:29] <Peace-> but i guess you need to convert dic files
[12:29] <Peace-> i guess
[12:29] <vickie> would this work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=815122
[12:30] <kaddi> where would I find those?
[12:30] <kaddi> i've checked out stardic.. Even I have a bigger word vocabulary than them
[12:31] <vickie> lol well then
[12:31] <kaddi> it's got some 800 words in it
[12:32] <kaddi> i'll check out moby and wordnet and see what those are
[12:33] <kaddi> meh, I must have been using the wrong word >.< What I'm looking for is something which will help me translate stuff between english, french, german and spanish (or a subgroup of those languages)
[12:36] <vickie> http://www.comptalks.com/free-offline-dictionary-and-text-translation-software/
[12:39] <vickie> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries
[12:39] <kaddi> ah, that's a good idea :)
[12:39] <kaddi> i'm looking at the first link now :)
[12:39] <vickie> yeah I think the first one is a win program
[12:43] <kaddi> vickie: yeah looks like it :(
[12:43] <kaddi> the portable version might run in wine though
[12:44] <kaddi> or not... teh download link is a 404
[12:44] <vickie> never know until you try
[12:44] <vickie> dont you just hate that
[12:45] <kaddi> i do, lol.. let's see what openoffice has to offer.. now that you link me to it, I kinda seem to remember that i needed fixing those dictionaries anywasy.. spellcheck wasn't working last I needed it
[12:45] <kaddi> so thanks for the reminder :)
[12:46] <vickie> yeah no problem
[12:55] <__-osh-__> How can I find out what char encoding a file has? It displays some strange inverted-questionmark-in-a-box as part of the name. How can I fix this? I want it to show a proper filename.
[12:58] <emilsedgh> is there any Kubuntu 10.10 image with kde 4.6 instead of 4.5?
[13:00] <vickie> I cant update my system
[13:00] <kaddi> vickie: why not?
[13:01] <vickie> wish I knew
[13:01] <kaddi> emilsedgh: I don't think so. You could enable a repository after installing 4.5 and upgrade
[13:02] <kaddi> vickie: what message do you get when you try to update?
[13:02] <emilsedgh> kaddi: we're having a kde release party. i wanted to give a 4.6 enabled distro
[13:02] <vickie> when i use the update center all of the http give back error
[13:02] <vickie> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted Sources
[13:02] <vickie>   Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[13:02] <vickie> Fetched 442kB in 47s (9,306B/s)
[13:02] <vickie> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/restricted/source/Sources.bz2  Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[13:02] <FloodBotK3> vickie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <kaddi> vickie: I would try to select a different server or just wait a while and try again. It sounds like some of the packages are incomplete
[13:06] <vickie> I have been having this problem since the other day
[13:06] <kaddi> emilsedgh: ohh. Maybe look into this guide then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization It should allopw you yo make your own live-cd?
[13:06] <emilsedgh> thanks kaddi
[13:08] <kaddi> vickie: maybe try to do an sudo apt-get clean  then to delete all partially downloaded files and see if that helps.
[13:09] <vickie> ok I will get that a try
[13:14] <bob_> hello
[13:14] <bob_> please, someone can tell me how to go from Lucid LTS to Marverick 10.10 in command line?
[13:15] <bob_> I have a graphic error, I can not solve it without a screencaps
[13:17] <kaddi> http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/1147-how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-from-ubuntu-1004-lucid-karmic-desktop-a-server have a look here
[13:17] <lucidfox> unixmen? huh
[13:17] <kaddi> however I would recommend that you solve your problems first and upgrad then
[13:17] <lucidfox> as opposed to unixwomen?
[13:18] <kaddi> i checked the content not the address :p
[13:18] <kaddi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades there, that link is less sexist :p
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:24] <kaddi> ohai :)
[13:35] <CoolSpeeD> hello
[13:35] <CoolSpeeD> кто здесь из россии?
[13:36] <kaddi> !ru
[13:36] <kaddi> I hope that's right
[13:36] <CoolSpeeD> =)
[13:36] <CoolSpeeD> who is from Russia?
[13:39] <CoolSpeeD> !help
[13:39] <bazhang> !ru | CoolSpeeD
[13:40] <CoolSpeeD> thanks, but i seek people
[13:40] <BluesKaj> maybe he can't read cyrillic :)
[13:40] <CoolSpeeD> i can =)
[13:41] <kaddi> he posted in cyrillic earlier
[13:41] <bazhang> CoolSpeeD, this is not a chat channel, its support
[13:41] <CoolSpeeD> oh..
[13:41] <CoolSpeeD> sorry
[13:42] <BluesKaj> kaddi, copy & paste works in cyrillic too :)
[13:42] <kaddi> yes, but why would he ask a question in cyrillic if he can't read it? Apart from trolling obviously
[13:42]  * BluesKaj 's humour fails to translatre into text
[13:43] <BluesKaj> kaddi, nm
[13:43] <kaddi> lol, ok
[13:56] <ct529> where is the xorg.conf file in 10.10?
[13:56] <kaddi> it's not present by default
[13:56] <kaddi> if you need to create one put it in /etc/x11
[13:58] <bambee> hey
[13:58] <ct529> kaddi: what about xorg.conf.d
[13:58] <kaddi> hi
[14:00] <paytam> since I update my KDE,my shortcut does not work(such as Alt+Tab or Alt+F1) I reset global shortcut to default but still doesn't work. Do you have any opinion?
[14:00] <kaddi> ct529: I don't know. xorg.conf got depreciated a while back. If you want to write your own xorg.conf have a look here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man5/xorg.conf.5.html
[14:15] <__-osh-__> How can I find out what char encoding a file has? It displays some strange inverted-questionmark-in-a-box as part of the name. How can I fix this? I want it to show a proper filename.
[14:15] <__-osh-__> Can I just change LC_ALL?
[14:15] <__-osh-__> If so, to what should I change it?
[15:27] <wn1zid> hi, i'm almost new to this, but, i was wondering how i go about upgrading to kde 4.6.0
[15:28] <wn1zid> ok, ic, nvm, its in the topic, thanks
[15:29] <wn1zid> before i proceed, is this worth it, are there alot of breakages ?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> wn1zid, open a konsole and do : sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa , then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:29] <wn1zid> ok
[15:29] <wn1zid> preciate that
[15:30] <BluesKaj> np
[15:30] <wn1zid> i'm a gnomer making the plunge, lol
[15:30] <BluesKaj> welcome to kubuntu then , wn1zid :)
[15:30] <wn1zid> cool
[15:30] <wn1zid> rok on
[15:31] <teadict> so, 10.10 keeps forgetting the screen resolution, wth?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> wn1zid, I prefer to use aptitude to apt , so might need to do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade ... I've forgotten some of the commands can be different
[15:33] <wn1zid> ok, gotchya
[15:33]  * BluesKaj brushes up on apt-get commands
[15:33] <wn1zid> hehe
[15:37] <teadict> anyone knows why screen resolution keeps going back to 1280x1024 on reboot? also, splash screen became that crappy blue and terminal letters, I fix that once but I forgot how... could the two be related?
[15:40] <rork> !resolution | teadict
[15:41] <rork> You can xrandr to set the correct resolution and then look under 6. to set them permanently
[15:42] <teadict> rork: thanks
[15:42] <teadict> that'll do
[15:45] <luis_> good morning everybody i need some help i just install kubuntu10.10 but i can't fix my screen res since it only gives me 800x600 and i need it to be 1024x768 can somebody help me please???
[15:45] <rork> !resolution | luis_
[15:45] <rork> You can xrandr to set the correct resolution and then look under 6. to set it permanently
[15:47] <bomber> good mornin
[15:47] <kaddi> morning :)
[15:48] <bomber> i need to change my home partition
[15:49] <bomber> i have 3 drives in this machine and if i leave the ide's plugged in during the install... after the install it doesnt regognize the root drive so i have to install without the ide plugged in... and thats where my home partition is
[15:49] <luis_> sorry what was the page to fix my screen res???
[15:50] <bomber> any help would be appreciated
[15:50] <luis_> my pc restarted and miss the page to fix my screen res
[15:51] <bomber>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[15:51] <luis_> txs a lot
[15:51] <bomber> cut and pasted for yah
[15:51] <bomber> no sweat
[15:52] <luis_> i that web page i already been trough that and nothing in there works at all
[15:53] <luis_> any other sugestion please
[15:55] <luis_> this is what i get when typing xrandr on terminal: http://pastebin.com/D9vu9zEM
[15:55] <luis_> my screen res should be 1024x768
[15:56] <luis_> help me to fix it please
[16:07] <BluesKaj> luis _, open the kmenu/applications/system/hardware drivers , choose the recommended graphics driver for your setup , it will require a reboot if it installs properly , then check your resolution upon reboot
[16:08] <luis_> i only have 800x600 option
[16:08] <russjr08> Hey guys. I'm having problems with KMail (under Kontact)
[16:08] <russjr08> It's threading all of the messages by the Sender, and it is very confusing
[16:09] <BluesKaj> luis_, have you installed the proper graphics driver for your syatem as described above ?
[16:09] <russjr08> I have tried purging both Kontact and KMail, deleting the mail account, and deleting some of the config files, but it still is threading it by the sender
[16:09] <luis_> my pc has no nvidia drivers
[16:10] <BluesKaj> luis_, well we ned more info than that in order to help you
[16:11] <russjr08> Also, my GTK apps (I installed KDE over Ubuntu) look horrible
[16:11] <BluesKaj> russjr08, sorry , but I gave up on kmail due to it's clunkiness and difficulties
[16:12] <rork> russjr08: have you been playing with Settings > Configure Kmail > Appearance > Message List (or right click the message list headers?)
[16:13] <luis_> ok again i just install kubuntu10.10 and i just find out that when i was tryin to fix my screen res in monitor setting it only has 800x600 option i need it to be 1024x768 and i have been trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution but nothing in there is working
[16:13] <russjr08> rork, I think something in there got changed
[16:14] <coz_> hey guys.. I notice in synaptic   kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-full... what is the difference?
[16:14] <russjr08> rork, you were right! I got it fixed!!
[16:14] <rork> russjr08: nice, you can set your GTK theme in "System Settings > Appearance > GTK+ Appearance"
[16:15] <russjr08> rork, it seems like whatever I set that too, it looks horrible
[16:15] <russjr08> even Firefox looks like Windows 98
[16:16] <rork> russjr08: which options do you have?
[16:16] <russjr08> I even got the oxygen-molecule thing and tried setting it to that
[16:16] <russjr08> rork: right now, oxygen-molecule
[16:17] <russjr08> Under widget style
[16:17] <russjr08> I am using KDE 4.6 if it matters
[16:19] <BluesKaj> coz_, I beleive kubuntu-full includes the canonical partners repos and non-default apps
[16:19] <russjr08> I did install KDE over Ubuntu
[16:19] <coz_> BluesKaj,  ah ok   i noticed on natty it wants to remove the nvidia-common as does natty updates  but the kubuntu-desktop does not ..thanks guy :)
[16:21] <BluesKaj> russjr08,  then you are probly still running the gnome window manager, that could expalin it
[16:21] <russjr08> BluesKaj: How would I shut that off?
[16:22] <luis_> i just install kubuntu10.10 and i just find out that when i was trying to fix my screen res in monitor settings it only has 800x600 option i need it to be 1024x768 and i have been trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution but nothing in there is working so how can i fix my screen res? help me please
[16:22] <coz_> kwin --replace ?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> russjr08, relogin using kde instead of gnome
[16:23] <russjr08> BluesKaj: Do you mean choosing KDE Plasma Workspace as the session?
[16:23] <russjr08> Because thats how I normally login
[16:24] <BluesKaj> russjr08, at the login scrn there a drop down where you choose your window manager, is that whatyou are doing ?
[16:24] <russjr08> Yes, choosing the KDE one
[16:24] <rork> luis_: which graphics card do you have?
[16:25] <russjr08> I think part of GNOME is still running though (Maybe because I have GDM as default) because using KRunner I clicked the little process thing running and saw Nautilus (just killed) and gnome-keyring-d running
[16:26] <luis_> let me see
[16:28] <luis_> i can't find it on kinfo center
[16:28] <luis_> how do i find my graphic card on terminal?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> russjr08, alt+ctrl+F1 , sudo service gdm stop , then sudo service kdm start , then alt+ctrl+F7
[16:29] <russjr08> BluesKaj: Will that log me out or anything?
[16:30] <rork> luis_: it's listed in lspci
[16:30] <BluesKaj> russjr08, you'll log in then do the commands , nothing should change on your desktop
[16:30] <BluesKaj> luis  lspci | grep VGA
[16:32] <BluesKaj> oops
[16:33] <luis_> this i what i got: http://pastebin.com/Xy4JNNAH
[16:35] <ct529> hi! is there a graphical interface to manage nfs sharing?
[16:35] <ct529> I appear to be only able to manage samba sharing
[16:35] <russjr08> BluesKaj: Sorry I left, TTY7 stoped working so I rebooted and used those codes and just logged in. Now what?
[16:36] <russjr08> Just checked Firefox... Still looks bad
[16:37] <rork> luis_: are there any drivers listed in System > Additional drivers?
[16:37] <luis_> nop
[16:39] <rork> luis_: do you have a file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:39] <dsl2672> kubuntu 10.10 KDE 4.6 and Nvidia prop.  google earth 6, Font does not work  looks like ||| ||| ||||| who can help?
[16:40] <russjr08> Does Anyone else know what might be causing GTK apps to look like Windows 98?
[16:41] <luis_> ley me see
[16:41] <luis_> i don't think so
[16:41] <BluesKaj> russjr08, the only thing I can tell you is to remove gdm
[16:41] <russjr08> BluesKaj: Will that make GNOME stop working if I ever need to use it again?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> you can always reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[16:43] <BluesKaj> unless you still have it installed , then remove that instead
[16:43] <russjr08> I still have ubuntu-desktop, is that what you mean?
[16:44] <luis_> nop i don't have that
[16:44] <BluesKaj> russjr08, yes
[16:44] <russjr08> I knew I should have just installed Kubuntu... it's just last time I installed it, it didn't like NDISWrapper which I need to use to get wireless working
[16:44] <russjr08> I think if I blow gnome away... it will destroy my network connection
[16:45] <BluesKaj> luis_, sorry I was addressing russjr08
[16:45] <rork> luis_: if xrandr doesn't work for you you can try creating an xorg.conf (see: http://www.osguides.net/operation-systems/217-how-to-create-xorgconf-in-ubuntu-910.html ) and addapt it (see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-256470.html )
[16:45] <luis_> no problem
[16:45] <BluesKaj> russjr08, which wifi chip ?
[16:45] <russjr08> Realtek RTL8187SE
[16:46] <BluesKaj> russjr08, that should run fine on maverick without ndiswrapper , afaik
[16:47] <russjr08> It does... but only to unsecure networks
[16:47] <russjr08> My parents will not allow me to take off the security...
[16:47] <BluesKaj> russjr08, no wpa options?
[16:47] <russjr08> Nope... They like to use WEP
[16:48] <BluesKaj> heh wep is less secure than wpa2 or wpa-psk
[16:48] <russjr08> I know! But they won't listen to me :(
[16:49] <russjr08> I even proved it to them...
[16:50] <russjr08> I showed them online articles
[16:52] <russjr08> Infact, I tried to get them to not even get this laptop, I wanted this other Acer one at Walmart, they wouldn't get it because this laptop had 50 GBs extra space......
[16:53] <russjr08> I wonder....
[16:53] <BluesKaj> russjr08, http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant
[16:54] <russjr08> BluesKaj: ?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> russjr08, check it out
[16:54] <russjr08> I'm looking at it, what is it for?
[16:54] <linux> joint me
[16:56] <BluesKaj> russjr08, it's for setting up wifi using wpa supplicant which will work without ndiswrapper
[16:56] <russjr08> But I don't have wpa
[16:56] <BluesKaj> you will
[16:56] <russjr08> My parents wont let me use WPA for the router, they want WEP
[16:57] <BluesKaj> russjr08, are you dual booting W7 and Kubuntu ?
[16:57] <russjr08> yes
[16:57] <russjr08> Well Windows 7 and Ubuntu with KDE
[16:59] <BluesKaj> then the salesman probly convinced your parents that wep is safe enough because that's what windows default uses if the router is set to wep
[17:00] <russjr08> No, my dad just thinks he knows everything about computers...
[17:00] <russjr08> He let the hard drive fail in our new Dell Inspiron 15R
[17:00] <russjr08> We heard clicking and everything, saw all the signs, tried to tell him...
[17:00] <russjr08> He wouldn't call Dell finally until it stopped working
[17:01] <BluesKaj> windowsn will use wpa as well if the router is set to use it , it's just as simple set up and much more secure ...wep is easy to break into by someone who wants to get in
[17:01] <russjr08> Yup, I know
[17:03] <russjr08> Anyways, I bet kubuntu will work with ndiswrapper if I used ndiswrapper from the command line instead of using ndisgtk
[17:03] <russjr08> Maybe that was the problem?
[17:04] <russjr08> I might just have to make a persistent live usb of Kubuntu 10.10 and try that out
[17:04] <BluesKaj> I'm an old computer user , retired technician and if you parentsa are using the laptop to do their banking with wep security then they're living in a dream world if they think they can't be trojaned and keylogged
[17:04] <BluesKaj> scary
[17:05] <russjr08> Yeah, my dad should know. He works at a security place for the government...
[17:06] <BluesKaj> I dunno who's been giving them advice, but whoever it is doesn't know his pc security from a hole in the ground.
[17:07] <russjr08> Infact, were using an old SBC router (which is now AT&T). We have been trying to convince him to get a new router for a very long time, he even picked one up at Office Depot (for $40) and then put it down saying "I can find a cheaper one somewhere else"
[17:07] <russjr08> I can't even get 1.50 mb/s with that old thing
[17:08] <russjr08> How much cheaper can you get then $40 for a router!
[17:08] <spider623> any one knows how to intergrade ubuntu one in dolphine?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> not much, and they aren't very good at that price ...should pay about 60 minimum for a decent router
[17:09] <spider623> *dolphin
[17:09] <westmi49319> spider623,  what does the website say?
[17:09] <westmi49319> naughtlus?
[17:09] <russjr08> Exactly, I'm just going to get one for my birthday coming up in March, and connect to that one... Let everyone else enjoy the speed but him
[17:09] <BluesKaj> spider623, install nautilus
[17:09] <westmi49319> hmmm.......
[17:10] <spider623> i'm using it but i want to know if there is a way to use it with dolphin
[17:11]  * BluesKaj doesn't see the benefits of ubuntu one ...maybe ask in  #ubuntu
[17:11] <russjr08> Anyways, I'm going to go check if I have an ISO of kubuntu 10.10 in Windows (I have a lot of Linux ISOs there) and try it
[17:11] <russjr08> See you guys soon
[17:13] <westmi49319> is there a channel for linux mint?
[17:14] <BluesKaj> !linuxmint
[17:14] <BluesKaj> yeah #linux-mint
[17:14] <spow> hi, how do I connect to freenode #ubuntu-fr using Quassel IRC please ?
[17:15] <bazhang> !mintsupport | westmi49319
[17:15] <BluesKaj> oops ##linuxmint
[17:16] <bazhang> its not on freenode
[17:16] <BluesKaj> yeah, 4 ppl
[17:16] <BluesKaj> ok , time to go ...later gents
[17:49] <rtdos> what is a good text mode editor that 'color codes' per language? i don't want to have to open kate all the time.
[17:51] <james147> rtdos: command line editor?  vim is a good choice if your willing to spend a couple weeks getting use to how it works
[17:53] <rtdos> i know how vim works, james147. :-) i was just wondering if there was one that color coded the way kate does?
[17:53] <james147> rtdos: ^^ vim does (make sure you install the full version and not jsut vi...
[17:54] <rtdos> ah, ok. i'll look in synaptic
[17:55] <james147> you may also need to enable "syntax on" (add that line to ~/.vimrc or type ":syntax on" inside vim) and possibally set "filetype plugin on" as well (in the same way)
[17:57] <busyfingers> can anyone help with an issue concerning updates?
[17:57] <rtdos> thanks james147
[17:58] <Snowhog> busyfingers: Just ask the question.
[18:00] <busyfingers> ok here gues thanks i am tryng to install some updates and receive the following message,
[18:00] <busyfingers> Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend.
[18:00] <busyfingers> Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open.
[18:01] <busyfingers> when looking further i am intructed to use dpkg--configure=a to resove the problem which does not apear to work
[18:01] <busyfingers> soor resolve.,
[18:03] <eMyller> hello, peeps
[18:03] <busyfingers> hello eMyller
[18:04] <eMyller> my laptop got washed by a rain, and the only problem with it now is that my Alt Gr key doesn't work
[18:04] <eMyller> i don't need it much, but it annoys me so much that i bought another keyboard
[18:04] <eMyller> anyway, it's not being that comfortable.
[18:05] <eMyller> So, is there a way to map Alt Gr to another key, like Menu or Right Ctrl?
[18:05] <eMyller> thanks in advance;
[18:06] <Corin> eMyller: Buy a new laptop.
[18:06] <Corin> Problem solved!
[18:07] <eMyller> Corin: send me the money.
[18:07] <eMyller> Solution found.
[19:23] <Hourglasss> People here are willing to help a total linux noob right?
[19:23] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss yes
[19:24] <Hourglasss> I installed Kubuntu yesterday and am trying to get skype to work
[19:24] <Hourglasss> the problem is the microphone
[19:24] <Hourglasss> no matter what i do i cant get it to pick up
[19:25] <Hourglasss> i followed the tutorial on the ubuntu communites page on troubleshooting but that didnt help either
[19:25] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss do you have mic in your mixer?
[19:25] <Hourglasss> yes
[19:26] <ArGGu^^> is set to capture?
[19:26] <Hourglasss> when i hit mixer the first time there is just one thing, internal audio analog stero
[19:27] <Hourglasss> *stereo
[19:27] <Hourglasss> when i hit mixer i get capture with the same thing
[19:28] <Hourglasss> under capture devices internal audio analog stereo is set to full volume
[19:28] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss open konsole run alsamixer, press F4, check that the mic has capture
[19:28] <Tectu> hi guys... I had a working xinerama system with two monitors. Some days ago, I reinstalled the system (same hardware) and now i cant configure the xinerama again. I know, that I configured it in the amdcccle, but now, it says: "You curently have only one dekstop enabled. Configure more than one desktop in the Display Manager will allow you to configure Xinerama", but i have 2 Dekstops... any ideas?
[19:28] <ArGGu^^> you can set it to capture with space
[19:29] <Hourglasss> capture is set to 100
[19:29] <Hourglasss> already
[19:29] <Hourglasss> by default
[19:29] <Hourglasss> or somthing
[19:30] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss I mean there need to read CAPTURE under the mic
[19:32] <Hourglasss>  after I hit f4 i got 3 collums one is at 67 with <from mic boost> underneath one is 67 with mic boost underneath and one is set to 100 wih capture underneath
[19:32] <Hourglasss> * the one with capture has it 2 times once in red above the number and once in white below
[19:35] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss the it is set as capture, but usually there is two capture mic and line-in
[19:35] <ArGGu^^> *then
[19:37] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss you are using kubuntu 10.10?
[19:37] <Hourglasss> there are only three things front mic boost mic boost and capture, it may help you to know that this is a laptop and the mic i want to use is a built in one
[19:37] <Hourglasss> yes kubuntu 10.10 fully updated
[19:38] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss install pavucontrol and check the input devices tab
[19:38] <ArGGu^^> there might be two microphones
[19:39] <Hourglasss> i installed pavucontrol for the tutorial online the only input device is internal audio analog stereo
[19:39] <Hourglasss> (just rechecked
[19:41] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss but what you have in the port dropdown
[19:42] <ArGGu^^> in input devices tab
[19:42] <Hourglasss> in the dropdown it has internal audio analog stereo with front left and front right underneath
[19:44] <Hourglasss> if i set the "show" thing to all input devices (it was on all exept monitors) i also get monitor on internal audio analog stereo with front left and front right
[19:44] <Hourglasss> *monitor of
[19:48] <ArGGu^^> Hourglasss what you have selected int configuration tab?
[19:48] <Hourglasss> analog stereo duplex
[19:50] <sriramoman> i am using kubuntu 10.10 64bit, and all windows change to no-border mode when i maximize them. how can i avoid this
[19:50] <Hourglasss> thanks for your help but i need to go
[19:53] <james147_> sriramoman: add/edit the line "BorderlessMaximizedWindows=false" in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc (in the [Windows] setion)
[19:54] <ArGGu^^> sriramoman are you using netbook interface?
[19:54] <sriramoman> james147_: do i have to logout+login for effect or just restart kwin
[19:55] <sriramoman> ArGGu^^: i used it once but switched to desktop interface several weeks ago
[19:55] <Peace-> james147_: :P
[19:55] <sriramoman> ArGGu^^: i agree that this change is noticeable since that day i tried netbook interface
[19:55] <james147_> sriramoman: restarting kwin should be enough
[20:01] <gorgonzola> hello peoples. could anyone please explain precisely what one is supposed to do to get iphone 3g support in kubuntu? ie, how should it appear to hal, how should it appear to solid, how to make amarok see the damn thing, etc...
[20:07] <Snowhog> gorgonzola: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[20:08] <gorgonzola> Snowhog: been there, done that, it doesn't work. it never worked in any of my machines prior to kde 4.6, where the iphone showed up as a device to kde but amarok couldn't see it, and it doesn't work now with kde 4.6 where it shows up as a camera
[20:12] <Snowhog> gorgonzola: Slightly dated, and it is a hack, and I don't know if it will work with 10.10, but have a look at http://blog.zoomeren.nl/2009/03/24/mount-iphone-in-linux-using-usb-ifuse-libiphone/
[20:13] <gorgonzola> Snowhog, ok, will check it out. thanks.
[20:13] <westmi49319> gorgonzola,  you cant brows various files/folders?
[20:15] <popeyag> guys, i copied natty alpha 2 on usb using dd, but it seems not working, some tips?
[20:16] <james147_> !livecd
[20:16] <james147_> :p
[20:17] <popeyag> i've not a cd drive on my netbook
[20:17] <james147_> !usb | popeyag
[20:17] <james147_> ^^ ment that one :0
[20:17] <popeyag> I konw that documentation, I use dd frequently to put distros on usb device
[20:18] <popeyag> but, it seems that using dd won't work with natty alpha 2, and i wanna know if someone already do that
[20:19]  * yofel uses https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/MultipleISOBootUSBKey for his iso tests
[20:21] <popeyag> thank you yofel, i'll try that way
[20:32] <vanguard> how can I tell tar to extract into a certain directory?
[20:37] <Snowhog> vanguard: Just append the directory you want to extract to to the end: tar -xf somefile.tar /directory_you_want_to_extract_to
[20:37] <james147_> vanguard: cd into that directory :p
[20:37] <vanguard> Snowhog: thx
[20:38] <vanguard> james147_: not so easy in a makefile :)
[20:38] <james147_> vanguard: yeah :p
[20:38]  * genii-around ponders tar -xvzf yadda.tar.gz -C /whaerever/you/want
[20:38] <james147_> ^^ didnt know that worked though Snowhog :p
[20:38] <Snowhog> james147_: Well, I haven't tried it, but man tar implies that this works.
[20:39]  * james147_ has the feeling it wasnt so easy ^^
[20:40] <genii-around> Snowhog: In the syntax you gave it tries to untar /directory_you_want_to_extract_to into the current working dir
[20:41] <vanguard> and how can I tell debuild that is should go into a different dir?
[20:46] <westmi49319> yofel, good one
[20:46] <vanguard> can I at least tell a bash script that all paths are relative to the script's dir instead of the calling dir?
[20:47]  * Snowhog Stands corrected. Thought it could be done, but just tested,and nope. Not directly anyway. ;)
[20:48] <iulian_> did i make something wrong or in kaffeine 1.1 settings-->xine engine parameters just missing
[20:48] <yofel> westmi49319: yeah, but I don't know how to add entries for alternate images, they work differently :/
[20:48] <edgy> hi, if i have an ascii file, how can I convert it to utf8 so that file command would show this?
[20:48] <westmi49319> that one is for kubuntu or ubuntu?
[20:49] <genii-around> Snowhog: Yeah, in case of: tar -xf file.tar /testdir          it wants to pull thing /testdir out from archive file.tar and put it in current dir
[20:49] <yofel> westmi49319: for any desktop image, they're all the same besides the desktop environment
[21:01] <marcusdavidus> im banned on ubuntu so i writ this on kub untu : burg should be replacement fro gub fro ubuntu it looks way better
[21:02] <Peace-> marcusdavidus: banned?
[21:02] <Peace-> marcusdavidus: #ubuntu-ops to talk about the ban
[21:11] <busyfingers> Hi, I am currently using kubuntu 10.10 and have a problem with a recent update, in that,, when attempting to install them I am greeted with the following message.
[21:11] <busyfingers> Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend.
[21:11] <busyfingers> Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open.
[21:11] <busyfingers> Then looking at the details, window I get the following.
[21:11] <busyfingers> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:11] <FloodBotK3> busyfingers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:11] <busyfingers> Issuing the requested command does not appear to solve the problem the serminal spits out a message telling me the commend cannot be found.
[21:11] <busyfingers> ok sorry the text did not echo back.
[21:12] <busyfingers> i will ask the question bit by bit so others have tie to chip in.
[21:12] <Snowhog> busyfingers: The command is:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:12] <busyfingers> did that.
[21:13] <Snowhog> busyfingers: And the system replied that the command cannot be found?! Really?
[21:13] <busyfingers> correct.
[21:14] <busyfingers> i am baffled!!
[21:14] <maco> um if dpkg is missing thats BAD
[21:15] <maco> like... either A) how the heck did you uninstall it  B) why'd it get deleted or C) uh oh disk corruption....
[21:15] <DarthFrog>  Did you spell it correctly?
[21:15] <busyfingers> yes very. looks like i might have to do a reinstall!!, I hope not though.
[21:15] <busyfingers> yep,
[21:16] <busyfingers> kubunu did an automated disk check on startup a couple of days prior to the problem but id not report any errors
[21:18] <qiyan> #pardus
[21:18] <busyfingers> looking at the list of installed packages, dpkg, seems to show as being installed.
[21:19] <busyfingers> brb
[21:23] <shane4ubuntu> anyone around that can help mount a usb mp3 player thing?  I'm usually at a loss when it doesn't just 'pick it up'  lsusb shows this:  Bus 006 Device 002: ID 10d6:1101 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd D-Wave 2GB MP4 Player / AK1025 MP3/MP4 Player
[21:24] <shane4ubuntu> so it is showing up, but not mounting, at least not automatically
[21:25] <Out_Cold> what's the pkg pointer for kde4 desktop??
[21:25] <DarthFrog> shane4ubuntu:  What does dmesg tell you about the device name?
[21:26] <shane4ubuntu> DarthFrog: bunch of these:  Attached SCSI removable disk
[21:26] <shane4ubuntu> [168190.894071] usb 6-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[21:26] <DarthFrog> shane4ubuntu:  Is it /dev/sdb?
[21:27] <DarthFrog> shane4ubuntu:  If so: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 <mount point>
[21:27] <Out_Cold> any takers? apt-get kde-desktop-something??
[21:27] <shane4ubuntu> I don't think so, hang on one second, let me try to change the settings on the mp3 player
[21:27] <DarthFrog> Out_Cold: kubuntu-desktop
[21:27] <Out_Cold> thanks... never would have figured that one out....
[21:28] <busyfingers> back
[21:28] <DarthFrog> Out_Cold:  You could always use the apt-cache command.  viz: apt-cache search kde
[21:28] <Out_Cold> DarthFrog: i totally apt-cached and greped and less'd and couldn't find it...
[21:29] <shane4ubuntu> DarthFrog: ohh, this looks odd:  http://pastebin.com/kH6YXxa1   it is sdh, but the entry looks odd to me.
[21:30] <DarthFrog> shane4ubuntu: It looks like the system doesn't see any partitions on the device.
[21:30] <shane4ubuntu> DarthFrog: ohh, nevermind, got it, had to change the setting in the mp3 player that worked.
[21:30] <Out_Cold> mind you i was looking for a package with kde in the name..
[21:30] <shane4ubuntu> DarthFrog: yeah, it was the player settings, got it, thanks though
[21:30] <DarthFrog> shane4ubuntu:  What was the errant player setting?
[21:31] <shane4ubuntu> most of the things I have used (limited experience) they just autoconnect, and I never have to do anything
[21:31] <shane4ubuntu> DarthFrog: yep, apparently
[21:31] <Out_Cold> shane4ubuntu: that's not the case with linux ;)
[21:31] <DarthFrog> shane4ubuntu: No, what was the specific setting you had to manipulate?
[21:32] <shane4ubuntu> Out_Cold: oh it has gotten loads better, it used to be worse, and I don't mess with a bunch of mp3 players this was a birthday gift for my son
[21:32] <shane4ubuntu> DarthFrog: it was: Online Mode:  1.  Multidisk mode  2.  Normal mode  3.  Encrypted mode      1 didn't work and 2 worked.
[21:33] <DarthFrog> shane4ubuntu:  Good to know.  That might be useful to someone else in the future.
[21:33] <Out_Cold> i have no DE :(
[21:33] <shane4ubuntu> right, I didn't think to check for a setting first.
[21:33] <shane4ubuntu> Out_Cold: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:34] <Out_Cold> ya, that's been running since i found out it was kubuntu- and not kde-
[21:34] <shane4ubuntu> Out_Cold: yep, kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop  and I think there are a few more for future reference.
[21:35] <Out_Cold> i have a bitcoin app but as far as i can tell, it runs in GUI, and I've been waiting to get this desktop up so I can get my $$$ lol
[21:36] <Out_Cold> and my system is definitely a frankenstien box... debian and ubuntu live DO NOT like her at all
[21:36] <DarthFrog> Out_Cold: you don't need to run KDE to run KDE apps.  As long as the proper libraries are installed.
[21:36] <Out_Cold> i still need a DE tho lol
[21:36] <DarthFrog> Out_Cold: Have you logged out and back in again?
[21:36] <Out_Cold> i'm in CLI only atm
[21:37] <Out_Cold> it's still installing the desktop
[21:37] <Out_Cold> 44% done
[21:37] <DarthFrog> Go have a coffee.  :-)
[21:37] <Out_Cold> or beer! <3
[21:38] <DarthFrog> Beer and system administration can be a volatile combination. :-)
[21:38] <Out_Cold> DarthFrog: only if your beer gets into the PSU..
[21:41] <Out_Cold> geez if it wasn't for computers and people being so graphic orientated, i'd probably stick to screen, finch, elinks and bash lol
[21:42] <DarthFrog> Out_Cold: Have you ever had a look at ratpoison for a window manager?
[21:43] <Out_Cold> DarthFrog: i've heard of it... i'm a fan of key combos but i just don't have much time for that now i'm back in school... someone had said they use ratpoison and something else i believe for their graphics and WM
[21:44] <Out_Cold> i 'need' shell much more than i need a compatible and suitable WM or DE
[21:45] <Out_Cold> i just was getting sick of gnome and hoped that kde4 has fixed some bugs since the last time i tried
[21:45] <DarthFrog> KDE SC 4.6 rocks!
[21:46] <Out_Cold> i remember trying it when it was 3.6->4.0? was very buggy
[21:46] <DarthFrog> KDE 4.0 was not intended for general release, it was intended for devs only.  I think calling it a .0 release was a mistake.
[21:47] <Out_Cold> what ever the case, it still needed time to get fixed..
[21:50]  * Out_Cold should have installed elinks before kde :(
[22:15] <rserit> hi all
[22:45] <polaris> question, has anybody had a problem on randomly disconnecting from the wireless connection ?
[22:46] <polaris> i got a d-link wireless usb pen, and ubuntu 9
[22:56] <Donjr> I have just finished installing kubuntu 9 on my laptop.  It shows my wirless card in lspci, it shows wlan0 in network config but when I scan it shows nothing.  I manually put in my ssid and still no connection.  What can I check to get my wireless working please?
[22:57] <starejbar_> try to turn on the radio
[22:58] <Donjr> How do I do that?
[22:59] <Donjr> or what do you mean by it?  I had to use the function button to turn on the wireless on the laptop and then restart for the wireless options to be shown in the network manager in the first place.
[23:10] <Belial6663> can someone help me with a Mount error message?
[23:10] <yofel> depends on what the actual error is
[23:11] <Belial6663> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[23:11] <Belial6663>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[23:11] <Belial6663>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[23:11] <Belial6663>        dmesg | tail  or so
[23:11] <FloodBotK3> Belial6663: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:11] <Corin> Belial6663: Always ask before mounting. ;)
[23:11] <Belial6663> lol
[23:11] <yofel> hm, how are you mounting it and what are you mounting?
[23:12] <Corin> It's obviously an external hard drive.
[23:12] <Corin> Right?
[23:12] <Belial6663> im using dolphin and it's an ext4
[23:12] <yofel> not obviously, sdb1 could be everything
[23:12] <yofel> *anything
[23:12] <Corin> But I was right, wasn't I? :o
[23:12] <yofel> hm, I wonder why that would fail then..
[23:13] <yofel> Belial6663: can you mount in from the command line?
[23:14] <Belial6663> i can try. im not real familiar with the mount command, what would the line be?
[23:14] <yofel> 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' for example
[23:16] <Belial6663> gives me the same error
[23:16] <Belial6663> it's my second harddrive if that helps
[23:16] <Snowhog> Belial6663: What is it formatted to?
[23:17] <Belial6663> ext4
[23:18] <Corin> Belial6663: We already knew it was a secondary hard drive. :o
[23:18] <Belial6663> no it's not an external
[23:18] <Snowhog> Belial6663: In the console, type: sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[23:19] <Corin> I know. That's why I said "secondary" the second time.
[23:20] <Belial6663> Snowhog Thanks that worked
[23:20] <Bauldrick> hello, how to install kubuntu and remove all gnome etc...?
[23:21] <Corin> Barridus: Burn a Kubuntu install disk, boot it and follow the instructions?
[23:21] <Corin> Oh well...
[23:21] <Corin> Format your hard drive first.
[23:21] <Corin> That might make it simpler.
[23:22] <Corin> Or just install kubuntu-desktop and delete ubuntu-desktop.
[23:22] <Corin> :o
[23:22] <Bauldrick> guess that was for me Corin....
[23:22] <Corin> Yes, it was. lol
[23:22] <Corin> Sorry.
[23:22] <yofel> yep, install kubuntu-desktop and then follow
[23:22] <yofel> !purekde
[23:22] <Bauldrick> yofel: thats the one , cheers
[23:23] <elena> hola
[23:24] <elena> si alguien pusiese ayudarme , necesito una página donde pueda realizar online sopa de letras con frases ocultas con las letras sobrantes y despues de echa pasarlo a pdf, y formar nubes de palabras desordenadas, si alguien sabe de alguna se lo agredecería
[23:25] <mara__> oi
[23:25] <mara__> tem alguem ai do brazil
[23:25] <iulian_> just insane still cant find good dvd player
[23:25] <mara__> ?////
[23:25] <elena> alguien que hable español??
[23:26] <t_boz> alguien que hable español??
[23:26] <mara__> qual e seu nome ?
[23:26] <genii-around> !es
[23:26] <genii-around> also...
[23:26] <Corin> No hablas Espanol!
[23:26] <genii-around> !br
[23:26] <Donjr> I just installed Kubuntu 9, fresh install, lspci shows my wirelss card, network manager shows wlan0 but when I scan for connection points it does not show anything, I manually add the ssid and still won't connect, what can I try to remedy this?
[23:26] <Corin> Oh.
[23:26] <Corin> He was speaking Portuguese?
[23:26] <genii-around> Corin: Basically, in the channel which is for it and not here
[23:26] <Corin> Or Spanish?
[23:27] <genii-around> Corin: Yes, thay have many languages in brazil
[23:27] <Corin> The official language is Portuguese.
[23:27] <Corin> Spanish is far less widely spoken.
[23:28] <Reaper50435> I updated my system then my keyboard and mouse doesnt work but and usb set does, then when I login I get this Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct
[23:30] <Corin> Reaper50435: Have you checked Synaptic for your drivers?
[23:30] <Corin> If you know the what model mouse and keyboard you're using, it shouldn't be hard.
[23:30] <Reaper50435> when I click ok I dont have wireless or anything I dont even think I have synaptic installed
[23:31] <Reaper50435> I have no clue what the keyboard and mouse are for the laptop
[23:33] <Donjr> No help for my wireless problem?
[23:35] <Reaper50435> looks like the only thing that is working for me now is terminal
[23:36] <Reaper50435> try to open additional drivers to see if I can get my net back up just closes
[23:36] <Corin> Idk. Someone a bit more savvy will come along eventually, Reaper50435.
[23:36] <Corin> I could probably fix it if it were on my end but I'm no good at solving the issues of others.
[23:36] <Reaper50435> yeah I know how that is
[23:50] <Donjr> what is the command to find out my kernel version please?
[23:51] <valorie> uname
[23:54] <Donjr> thanks
[23:55] <valorie> np


[00:29] <Menzador> samy1028: I'm not sure, but do you have a testing environment where you're running 22.04 LTS and it *does* work (since you're using Ubuntu)?
[00:33] <Menzador> I don't know what your feature testing environment looks like but that sounds like something you may want to discuss with whomever's in charge of your feature testing
[01:11] <samy1028> Menzador, I've been able to reproduce it on a stock Ubuntu 20.04 with Pro / FIPS enabled.  Are you running Zabbix also?  If so, what version of Zabbix-Agent2 are you running?
[01:12] <Menzador> Unfortunately I don't. It was just a suggestion


[00:01] <lynxman> smoser: one of the AWS guys openly praised cloud-init in an awesome talk at puppetconf, thought you would like to hear it
[00:01] <smoser> :)
[00:01] <smoser> cool
[00:39] <gibbs> Hi. I've used rsync to copy over Maildir email accounts to a new server. Will email clients re-download emails from the new server? I am not too clued up on email
[00:49] <patdk-lap> gibbs, that depends on many things
[00:49] <patdk-lap> what server do you use?
[00:50] <gibbs> ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[00:50] <patdk-lap> doesn't sound like an email server to me, but an os
[00:50] <gibbs> I'm just concerned clients are going to get flooded with old email
[00:50] <gibbs> oh sorry lol, its late
[00:50] <gibbs> dovecot
[00:50] <gibbs> and postfix MTA
[00:51] <patdk-lap> and the old server was using?
[00:52] <gibbs> the same
[00:52] <patdk-lap> then as long as you copied all the dovecot.* files, and configure it the same your ok
[00:52] <patdk-lap> http://wiki.dovecot.org/Migration
[00:52] <Jasonn> qman__: You around?
[00:52] <patdk-lap> you need the UID's to stay consistant
[00:52] <gibbs> ah that's ideal. thanks for the lead patdk-lap.
[00:53] <patdk-lap> ya, that is for non-dovecot to dovecot though
[00:53] <patdk-lap> don't see a dovecot to dovecot one, cause I think it's assumed you read the manual :)
[00:53] <patdk-lap> but it's simple :)
[00:54] <gibbs> i haven't encountered any problems. just on the look out for "gotchas" :)
[00:54] <patdk-lap> ya, I converted all my maildir's to mdbox
[00:54] <patdk-lap> and was forced to redo all my uid's
[00:55] <gibbs> yeah I had to do that but vice-versa at one stage
[01:06] <jseongtae76__> Hello, everyone
[01:06] <jseongtae76__> My, apparmor.d has a problem
[01:07] <jseongtae76__> I was change mysql directory
[01:07] <jseongtae76__> error message is .: 35: Can't open /lib/apparmor/functions
[01:12] <Jasonn> do you have permission to open it?
[01:12] <Jasonn> jseongtae76__: ^
[01:12] <Jasonn> qman__: You around man?
[01:17] <jseongtae76__> Jason, Do you want die?
[01:17] <jseongtae76__> Jason, Hey, comeon
[01:17] <jseongtae76__> Jason, Hey, come on
[01:18] <jseongtae76__> Jason, hey, fucker
[01:18] <jseongtae76__> Jason, hey come on yo
[01:18] <jseongtae76__> Jason, fucker bye
[01:27] <Jasonn> uhh
[01:27] <Jasonn> saving HIS ip
[08:43] <koolhead17> hi all
[09:44] <Dulcin> How are the rights a user has when using SFTP set?
[12:06] <wooy> Hi, I dont have ubuntu question, rather server hw oriented. My favourite bittorrent tracker just announced they are going to buy new server for $14,000. It seems pretty expensive, considering they are serving (not more than) 200,000 users. They run only tracker, website and forum. Lot of small http requests and no big data transfers. Is it reasonable price?
[12:08] <Dulcin> no its not
[12:08] <Dulcin> 200,000 active users?
[12:10] <wooy> 200k registered users, i think they wont have more than 150k active users.
[12:16] <Dulcin> well its hard to say, but they can buy a reasonable server for 14k
[12:16] <Dulcin> so perhaps they expect to grow
[12:25] <wooy> Well maybe, from what i can say, there is not much space to grow. They are getting in performance troubles just once a day in the highest peak, and thus they decided to buy new server (just for the peak). I am wondering if they took a look at amazon web services or similar...
[12:42] <Dulcin> well it makes sense if your server cannot handle it you are going to buy a new service
[12:42] <Dulcin> and amazon's web services aren't all that either
[12:44] <Dulcin> why is it a problem
[12:44] <Dulcin> are they asking to donate?
[12:45] <Dulcin> that's about $0.10 per active user
[12:45] <Dulcin> not bad :)
[12:51] <wooy> Ive just read that admin is thinking of blade server from IBM. Yeah they ask to donate and I could get rid of feeling he's going to buy the server and new car for him  as a bonus :D
[12:51] <Dulcin> :) maybe so, but who cares if they are the guys keeping the community running?
[12:52] <Dulcin> 14k for a blade server seems fair btw
[12:53] <wooy> Anyway, he sells 1 year subscription for $1. What price is that? If he set  it bit higher he could earn fortunate and new server... :)
[12:54] <Dulcin> well if there's 150k active users, with 150k a year he should be able to afford it easily :)
[12:54] <Dulcin> and his new car, salary and house :P
[12:55] <wooy> right?! :D
[12:55] <Dulcin> but is he reselling something?
[12:55] <Dulcin> maybe he loses a lot in data traffic
[12:56] <Dulcin> because 1$ per user is not that much taken over a year
[12:56] <wooy> reselling what for example? He pays approximately $1200 for internet connection.
[12:58] <wooy> Well no one would blame him to rise the price above $5. For some reason, he doesnt want to.
[12:58] <Dulcin> users are more easily convinced to register for 1$
[13:01] <wooy> I know, but if i were the admin i would not try to get as much users as i can, but rather as much profit as i can.
[13:01] <wooy> Well i guess he got his reasons... Thx for the chat.
[13:38] <sampiale> Hello
[16:43] <padhu> MiniHOWTO is needed for simple & easy mail server configuration on ubuntu 10.04 for private LAN
[16:43] <ikonia> padhu: please don't cross-post, I've already responded in #ubuntu with help
[16:44] <padhu> ikonia: sure, but it is server, That's why :-)
[16:45] <ikonia> padhu: sure, but I've already responded with help, so no need to cross-post it
[16:46] <padhu> okey...
[16:47] <padhu> ikonia: Is iti suitable for LAN network. My need is 15 to 100 users, 2MB attachment. That's all
[16:47] <ikonia> yes
[16:47] <padhu> what is the combination?
[18:56] <creatorbri> Question: My server was hacked a few days ago and a large volume of data appears to have been downloaded, based on Linode activity logs. Is there some way to figure out what was actually downloaded?
[19:23] <qman__> creatorbri, not with any certainty
[19:23] <qman__> if they used HTTP it may still be in the logs, but otherwise, it's probably unlogged
[19:26] <qman__> proper auditing is resource heavy, so it's not usually set up
[20:01] <creatorbri> qman: thanks
[20:28] <Daviey> smoser: around?
[20:29] <tarvid> i want to build a vm like my Ubuntu 10.4.3 web server which I can hand to coients for use to backup and as a sandbox for their websites
[20:29] <tarvid> current thought is virtualbox 256MB 4.7GB disk 32bit
[20:30] <tarvid> Does that make sense?
[20:31] <tarvid> the goal is to run on the most ubiquitous host machine
[21:52] <vilho> does anyone have an explanation why pppd throws up these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/696353/ - I'm using version 11.04 (32 bit)
[21:54] <KM0201> well, it looks like its saying /dev/ppp does not exist
[21:54] <spacechicken> hi - I'm trying to install 10.04 server. I keep getting a setup failed error on the set up users step. Can anyone help with that?
[21:55] <efxhoy> describe your problem?
[22:00] <KM0201> you're getting a "failed" on setting up users?... .thats a first
[22:06] <spacechicken> yeah - I've spent a fair bit of time getting the partition table all set up (RAID, LVM, the lot) and now I keep getting this error
[22:06] <spacechicken> I am asked if I want to set up shadow passwords, then root user config, then normal user config then it fails out with a red screen
[22:06] <spacechicken> then drops me back to the main menu
[22:07] <KM0201> root user config?.. are you installing ubuntu server?
[22:08] <spacechicken> I've tried using and not using shadow passwords, allowing and not allowing root user login, creating and not creating normal users - all the same result
[22:08] <spacechicken> I am installing ubuntu server
[22:08] <KM0201> i dunno, i'd say you'r edoing something wrong
[22:10] <spacechicken> any idea what?
[22:17] <efxhoy> im no pro but why don't you finish the install with just one user and add more users later?
[22:22] <spacechicken> If I could get past that step I would
[22:23] <efxhoy> faulty install media maybe?
[22:44] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I create an admin account on my ubutnu serber?
[22:44] <DeltaEpsilon> server
[22:45] <koolhead17> DeltaEpsilon: ?
[22:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> koolhead17:  he needs to create a user and give them sudo access
[22:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> (to translate into Linux-speak)
[22:46] <koolhead17> DeltaEpsilon: man sudoers and then do changes in /etc/sudoers
[22:46] <koolhead17> :D
[22:46] <koolhead17> TheEvilPhoenix: :D
[22:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> koolhead17:  he's not sure of how to add the users  though
[22:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> he's probly a CLI newbie or smth
[22:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> or just doesnt know enough CLI
[22:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> tbpfh
[22:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> i dont even know the syntax offhand
[22:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> they'll need a guiding hand ;P
[22:47] <koolhead17> TheEvilPhoenix: in that case should not jump to servers :D
[22:48] <TheEvilPhoenix> koolhead17:  +1
[22:48] <TheEvilPhoenix> in any case, they need help ;P
[22:48]  * TheEvilPhoenix is busy fixing KDE so meh
[22:48]  * koolhead17 loves kde
[22:48] <Pici> DeltaEpsilon: just drop the user into the admin group to grant them sudo access.
[22:49] <koolhead17> hey Pici
[22:49] <DeltaEpsilon> is it a good idea to use svn for backup purpose?
[22:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> no
[22:50] <DeltaEpsilon> why?
[22:50] <koolhead17> Daviey: am going to trouble you in understanding role based access control in case am stuck, #openstack
[22:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> never use version control systems for backups, in my opinion
[22:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> always make physical backups
[22:50] <DeltaEpsilon> why not? it is good to have sevral verison so you can nroll back
[22:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> either .tars or actual clones of the system
[22:50] <DeltaEpsilon> easily!
[22:50] <TheEvilPhoenix> DeltaEpsilon:  svn is inherently insecure
[22:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> you know, i'm too busy to explain, but IMHO you should never use version control for backups
[22:51] <DeltaEpsilon> TheEvilPhoenix, svn over ssh is secure
[22:51] <koolhead17> DeltaEpsilon: man rsync
[22:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> its too much like Windows
[22:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> which is a crappy system as it is
[22:52] <DeltaEpsilon> TheEvilPhoenix, what do you think? svn over ssh
[22:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> i told you my opinions
[22:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> btw, trying to change my opinion wont help you
[22:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> it'll just annoy me ;P
[22:53] <koolhead17> gudnyt guys!!
[22:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> if you 100% tunnel your connection via SSH then MAYBE
[22:53] <efxhoy> is it possible to clone a running system with dd? I've done it from a live-cd but never from inside the running system.