[00:45] <juacom99> hi
[00:46] <juacom99> can anybody help me with a sh question
[00:47] <juacom99> i maid a sh script to open my web folder using dolphin
[00:48] <juacom99> this is the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411360/
[00:48] <juacom99> i wanna know id there any way to add the pass dor the kdesudo so it don't ask it every time i open de script
[00:49] <James147> juacom99: count find a way when i tryed, but kdesudo should only ask you for a password once every 10 mins or so
[00:50] <James147> juacom99: maby 5 ^^ nor sure on teh spific time
[00:50] <GaelicGrime> I have not done so with kdesudo only sudo but if you type kdesudo --help (which I am about to do) it wil give you an option
[00:51] <keljaden> hey anyone there?
[00:51] <James147> juacom99: a work around might be to add you self to the group that owns the folder, then there is no need for kdesudo (little less secure though, but more secure then store a password in a text file :) )
[00:51] <GaelicGrime> I am wrong... sudo has an option that lets you keep the password in a file and use it from there, kdesudo does not
[00:52] <keljaden> i am new to using KDE and I deleted the widget that lets me view what apps are open, how do I get it back
[00:52] <keljaden> unless its not a widget and i am just lost
[00:52] <GaelicGrime> the panel, right click on your desktop and add a widget
[00:53] <James147> keljaden: task manager? just right click the panel -> panel settings -> add widget -> find and drag task manager back to the panel
[00:53] <GaelicGrime> or on the panel .. then select task manager
[00:54] <keljaden> ty
[00:54] <keljaden> how do i move it back to where it belongs
[00:54] <keljaden> like the task manager is on the far right
[00:54] <keljaden> how do i put it sorta in the middle again
[00:54] <keljaden> nvm
[00:55] <keljaden> i jsut figured it out
[00:55] <James147> keljaden: right click panel -> panel setting -> while the settings dialog is open you can drag the widgets
[00:55] <keljaden> thanks so much
[00:55] <keljaden> i just finally to windows all the way off my desktop today
[00:56] <keljaden> i have used gnome a lot before but decided to give KDE a try
[00:56] <keljaden> and I am rly liking it
[00:56] <James147> keljaden: :D
[00:56] <keljaden> any reason why amarok keeps crashing on me...i know i am in the beta, but it seems wierd that it would crash
[00:57] <keljaden> i think i might use rythembox for a bit then
[00:59] <James147> keljaden: you using lucid?
[00:59] <juacom99> i'll try James147 way first
[00:59] <juacom99> is the easer one
[00:59] <keljaden> James147: yes
[01:00]  * James147 goes to test amarok on his lucid box
[01:00] <keljaden> haha
[01:01] <keljaden> yeah, i have lucid on my 320 and my music on an NTFS 1TB drive
[01:01] <keljaden> amarok doesn't seem to want to speak to it, not sure if its the file format or what
[01:01] <juacom99> James147: the folder owner is the root
[01:01] <juacom99> is to dangerous :S
[01:02] <James147> juacom99: change the owner to "web" or something
[01:02] <juacom99> i'll need a new user ?
[01:02] <James147> juacom99: no, but you might need to create a group
[01:03] <James147> juacom99: kuser or systemsettings -> advanced -> user managment  should be easy to do it though
[01:03] <juacom99> ok is done
[01:03] <juacom99> i maid a new group and add me to that grpup
[01:04] <James147> yup, then change the group of that folder
[01:04] <James147> you might need to change the premisions as well
[01:04] <juacom99> done
[01:04] <GaelicGrime> on a headless server I am looking at presently, I actually changed the ownerof the www folder to my user and it works just fine, even shared
[01:04] <juacom99> i change group for the new group
[01:05] <juacom99> yes but isn't that a little insecure?
[01:05] <James147> juacom99: check to see if the folder has the permisio you need for the group as well
[01:05] <GaelicGrime> no access anywhere but my house on that box so I didnt care
[01:07] <juanr> hello everybody
[01:13]  * James147 waits for his lucid box to update before he tests amarok....
[01:14] <jepong> nice to see mobile broadband works now in lucid without using wvdial
[01:25] <keljaden> anyone know how to get eletric sheep to work after I install it with the package manager
[02:29] <tamran> I have a panel that does not take the full width of the screen, but I'm having trouble in that the panel sometimes shrinks and cuts off some of the end buttons.  Is this a known bug?  I've searched for "panel" and "resize panel" a bunch of places but can't find reference to this bug
[02:30] <jovis> what app?
[02:32] <tamran> this is a kde4 panel/launcher bar
[02:33] <jovis> youre complaining that it goes off screen?
[02:34] <James147> tamran: what version of kde?
[02:35] <tamran> James147: 4.4
[02:35] <tamran> James147: it's been a problem since 4.3 (I didn't have previous versions installed)
[02:35] <James147> tamran: Right click the panel -> panel settings -> more settings -> maximize panel
[02:36] <tamran> James147: I don't want the panel to maximize though
[02:36]  * James147 rereads problem :s
[02:36] <tamran> I've got the panel shrunk to fit all the icons on it, and don't have the taskbar there
[02:38] <James147> tamran: is the maximum size set right? seems to be resizing fine here (although i havent tested it much)
[02:39] <tamran> James147: leave it sized smaller and watch ... as more things come into your system tray, it messes up the size and cuts off icons on the right
[02:39] <tamran> it's an obscure bug I think, which is probably why it hasn't been handled as of yet
[02:40] <James147> tamran: not seeing it here, panel is resizing mably when i add and remove things, but no overlapping or cutting off :s
[02:41] <James147> tamran: take it you havent reset plasma since up upgradeed to 4.3?
[02:41] <tamran> yeah, it seems to be intermittant though ... I aught to take a pic of it to describe better
[02:41] <tamran> how do I reset plasma?
[02:42] <James147> tamran: delete or rename/move all the files that begin with plasma in ~/.kde/share/config/
[02:42] <James147> tamran: could try renaming them and see if that helps
[02:45] <James147> tamran: oo, had a small glitch, closed a program and had some overlay (the program in the task manager remained) but disapeared on mouse over :s
[02:45] <James147> tamran: so only a minor glitch
[02:46] <James147> tamran: and i cant replicate it :S
[02:51] <tamran> James147: yeah, I agree it's minor ... and if I maximize the bar it goes away
[02:51] <James147> tamran: the bar or the glitch?
[02:53] <James147> tamran: did you reset plasma?
[03:00] <foneman> does anyone know where i can get the linux drivers for a gigabyte motherboard
[03:01] <James147> foneman: why do you need them? whats not working?
[03:04] <jovis> cant you go to the website of the manufacturer?
[03:04] <foneman> integrated sound
[03:04] <foneman> and mic inputs
[03:04] <foneman> it says to get them from the chipset manufactures because of the different linux systems
[03:05] <James147> !sound | foneman
[03:05] <James147> try following those guides ^^ might not spifically be a `driver` issue
[03:11] <Guest72838> question. by installing the first beta, am I now running lucid beta 2 without intervening?
[03:12] <James147> Guest72838: no, you ahve to upgrade to be on beta 2 :)  (the normal upgrades are enough)
[03:13] <Guest72838> as in the updates i've been getting the past couple weeks?
[03:13] <James147> Guest72838: yes, if you have been updating then you are on the latest, that will even take you to the final version when it is released
[03:14] <Guest72838> kk thanks :)
[03:14] <Guest72838> just don't seem to be so many updates these days...
[03:14] <James147> Guest72838: the installers are just snapshots of the current development :) once you have oninstalled and you have updated your on the latest version, no matter which you installed from
[03:15] <James147> Guest72838: try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  <- that will defently bring you to the lastest version
[03:16] <Guest72838> i guessed as much, but seeing as i couldn't work out a way to see what 'version' i was using, i thought i shoud ask. seemingly 'development branch' is as specific as it gets
[03:17] <James147> Guest72838: :) only the installer get a labeled version, as they are static and dont change... but since your system is constantly being upgraded its hard to give each new change a new number :
[03:18] <James147> Guest72838: you might not notice lots of updates all the time, it is in beta 2 so things should start to be ebcomming stable and need less work :S
[03:19] <James147> Guest72838: that is only a guess thouygh ^^ i wouldnt worry about it too much as long as your getting some updates :)
[03:35] <foneman> thanks for the help James147
[03:35] <Guest72838> ditto James147, while I'm at it
[03:35] <Guest72838> don't you sleep?
[03:35] <James147> not tonight :D
[03:47]  * James147 wonders why kde takes ages to login
[03:47]  * Guest72838 was also wondering that, after realizing gnome takes only a second...
[03:48]  * James147 starts testing...
[03:49] <James147> whats worrying is that it takes my system about 30 seconds to get out kdm, but 40 secs to get to the desktop after entering my passwrod :D
[03:49] <James147> :S
[03:50] <Guest72838> wow
[03:50] <Guest72838> do you encrypt your home? not that it should have that effect of course :p
[03:50] <James147> got it down to 10, by disabling jsut about everything (and removing everything from the desktop)
[03:50] <James147> nop
[03:52] <Guest72838> while we're at it, i have a couple niggles that i doubt you can help with, but still...
[03:52]  * James147 listens
[03:54] <Guest72838> i have the default panel set to auto-hide. I have two virtual desktops.When/if switching desktops using the switcher icon on the panel, the second desktop closes the panel when it's switched to. Does that make sense? ;p
[03:54] <Guest72838> i want to be able to immediately use the panel after switching to a desktop.
[03:55] <Guest72838> Like I say, it's just a niggle. I mostly use alt+1 anyway
[03:56] <James147> Guest72838: when you use the pager? what version of kde are you using? seems to work as you want here (kde 4.4.2)
[03:57] <Guest72838> same, but lucid :/
[03:57] <Guest72838> oh wait
[03:57]  * James147 looks at his lucid box...
[03:57] <Guest72838> weeeeeeeird. it's doing it now :p
[03:58] <James147> ^^ its not really in the state for testing, just disabled everything on it :s
[03:58] <Guest72838> no, now it's stopped working again. I swear :p
[03:59] <James147> Guest72838: will try it on my lucid box after i finish testing the login speeds :)_
[04:00] <Guest72838> hum, it seems to be a bit finicky. Switching 1»2 usually fails, switching 2»1 always works :p
[04:01] <Guest72838> but only if i'm still hovering the pager when it's done changing (cube effect, guess i should have mentioned :s )
[04:01]  * James147 frowns, bespin seems to be slower then oxygen :(
[04:01] <Guest72838> moving on to the second one, i'd like to be able to hover over a background window for say 1 second and automatically activate that window (without bringing it to front). Any chance X has this exact option? :p
[04:01] <James147> no effects enabled on mine atm,
[04:02]  * Guest72838 should probably try google rather than wasting room time ^^
[04:02] <James147> Guest72838: it can :) i use that option by default now
[04:03] <Guest72838> i thought it was default... back in the olden days :p
[04:03] <James147> it use to be, but not on ubuntu anymore :(
[04:04] <Guest72838> pager works fine sans the eyecandy btw
[04:04] <James147> system settings -> Window Behaviour -> Window Behaviour -> "Policy" >> Focus follows mouse"
[04:05] <James147> they you can also enable a delay or even a raise delay :S
[04:06] <Guest72838> thaaaaank you
[04:06] <Guest72838> that's basically my biggest annoyance :)
[04:08] <augusto> un saludo a todos
[04:17] <Joelito> hi all, question or opinions: In ubuntu I'm using gecko-mediaplayer for embeded media in firefox, what would be the alternative in kubuntu? I'd like to use something more kde'ish, since gecko uses gnome-mplayer (or something in that words)
[04:20] <justin_> hello
[04:20] <justin_> anybody here?
[04:21] <Joelito> yes jussi01
[04:21] <Joelito> oops
[04:21] <Joelito> justin_
[04:21] <Joelito> :p
[04:21] <Guest72838> 231 people in fact
[04:21] <FloodBotK3> Joelito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <justin_> I am having issues with Kubuntu Lucid, is this the right channel?
[04:22] <Joelito> I don't think
[04:22] <James147> !lucid | justin_
[04:22] <justin_> so connect to ubuntu even though I'm in KDE?
[04:23] <James147> think there is only one support channel for lucid
[04:23] <justin_> okay thanks
[04:36] <Zxcvb> is there any way to get a usb modem to work at a speed above 115200?
[04:49] <Guest72838> has anyone installed colibri? Do i need to uninstall anything to get it to takeover?
[04:49] <phoenix_> the mood bar in amarok is not working, can anyone help me
[05:46] <jacob_> hello
[05:46] <jacob_> could anyone possibly help me with syncing my mobile phone and kontact?
[05:49] <James147> jacob_: sould help if you told us what mobile :)
[05:49] <jacob_> well, its an old sony ericsson w300i.
[05:49] <jacob_> if it helps, i've read that it supports syncml, but i'm not sure i understood what I was reading exactly
[05:53] <James147> !pm | jacob_
[05:54] <jacob_> James147: I apologize if I did something rude. I am very new to IRC and don't know how it works, or the edicate, very well
[05:56] <James147> jacob_: cant see an 'easy' way to do it :( not very fimilar with syncing mobiles. Way i got mine to sync was to sync it with googles servces first, then sync google to akonadi (in kde 4.4.x)
[05:56] <James147> jacob_: although, i dont know your phone so dont know if it can do that :)
[05:57] <jacob_> James147: I don't believe it can. Doesn't google
[05:57] <James147> jacob_: other wise you might want to check out opensync... but i do not know that project very well so wont be able to help :(
[05:58] <jacob_> James147: I have been looking at opensync, but there doesn't seem to be a very user-friendly howto or such on how to use it
[05:59] <jacob_> James147: On a similiar note, I read something about Akonadi possibly supporting syncml directly? wouldn't this mean that I could somehow use Akonadi to sync with my phone directly?
[05:59] <James147> jacob_: possibally
[06:00]  * James147 starts akonadi's server to look
[06:00] <phoenix_> James147: hello james
[06:00] <jacob_> James147: In that case, I think I am confused about Akonadi. Is there some sort of command or gui I can use to work with akonadi? everything I have seen makes Akonadi sound like a backend only
[06:00] <James147> phoenix_: Heya
[06:01] <phoenix_> jacob_: there must be an option to import and export in your mobile
[06:02] <James147> jacob_: it is, but there is a gui to configure it (not sure its actual name, i just type "akonadi..." into krunner and open "Akonadi Configuration")
[06:03] <jacob_> phoenix: The closest thing is a "backup to MS card" option, but then I would have to take out the storage card everytime I wanted to sync.  I'll poke around in there for a bit and see if I find something useful.
[06:04] <James147> jacob_: cant see anything in akonadi that might help :S
[06:04] <phoenix_> jacob_: wait i will figure out a way
[06:04] <James147> although i dont know it very well :)
[06:05] <jacob_> James147: Well thanks for looking, at least.
[06:05] <jacob_> phoenix_: If you could find it i'd appreciate it.
[06:08] <James147> jacob_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242932
[06:12] <phoenix_> jacob_: have you tried the soft"myphoneexplorer"
[06:12] <jacob_> James147: Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, I Don't have a bluetooth connection on my pc, so I don't know if it'll work. This is a step in the right direction however, thank you
[06:13] <jacob_> phoenix_: No I have not, I hadn't come across this in my google travels. I'll take a look at it as well.
[06:13] <James147> jacob_: some of the later posts indicate cable might work
[06:13] <jacob_> James147: I see, I hadn't read that far yet when I replied.
[06:15] <phoenix_> jacob_: try this soft"wammu" is for ubuntu
[06:16] <jacob_> phoenix: Downloading wammu now...
[06:17] <phoenix_> jacob_: you can install it from software management
[06:17] <jacob_> James147: I'm "testing connection" for my phone right now, lets see if it works.
[06:17] <jacob_> Phoenix_: Thats where its downloading from
[06:17] <phoenix_> jacob_: good
[06:19] <James147> jacob_: anyway, i have to go to bed, good luck with you phone :) and night
[06:21] <jacob_> Phoenix_: Thank you! I've managed to access the phone's memory and get my contact info. Would you happen to know if there is a way to now sync this contact info with Kontact?
[06:22] <phoenix_> i am trying the wammu soft for my phone, i will tell you shortly
[06:33] <jacob_> phoenix_: I am not having much luck with syncing wammu and kontact. have you happened to come across anything helpful?
[06:33] <phoenix_> jacob_: checking out
[06:33] <la_toope> bonjour
[06:34] <la_toope> hi*
[06:36] <jovis> que pasa
[06:37] <jovis> voule a vous en francais?
[06:37] <la_toope> oui
[06:37] <la_toope> yes
[06:38] <jovis> oui?
[06:38] <phoenix_> jacob_: i think this software does not support sync function and also it can only export messages. try using myphoneexplorer
[06:39] <la_toope> is there a french ubuntu chan ?
[06:40] <jacob_> phoenix_: At least this way I can get the contacts off, so we made progress. Isn't myphoneexplorer windows software?
[06:40] <phoenix_> jacob_: ya run it with wine
[06:42] <jacob_> phoenix_: I would rather have native linux, but I'm desperate I guess. will myphoneexplorer be able to sync with Kontact?
[06:42] <phoenix_> jovis: dont know we have to give it a shot
[06:43] <jovis> what phoenix_ ?
[06:46] <jacob_> phoenix_: thank you for your help, I'm calling it a night. So that you know, Myphoneexplorer will not start under wine with a very generic-looking error. I think I will settle for wammu for now. Thanks again.
[06:49] <vbgunz> is there a simple way to see how many rpms my cpu fan is at?
[06:49] <lordraptor> with kubuntu is there a way to get firefox's menu bar have the same font size as the rest of kde?
[06:55] <phoenix_> lordraptor: system settings->appearance->gtk+ appearance, then chsange widget style to raleigh
[06:55] <lordraptor> phoenix_: will i still have the same scroll bars?
[06:56] <phoenix_> lordraptor: what do you mean by same scroll bars
[06:58] <lordraptor> phoenix_: styles scrollbars and gtk scrollbars
[06:58] <phoenix_> lordraptor: no, it will change, it will look like windows 98 look
[06:59] <lordraptor> phoenix_: phoenix_EWWW
[06:59] <lordraptor> ewww
[06:59] <tmus> how do i launch an executable
[07:00] <tmus> total noob here to kubuntu :/
[07:00] <hexdump_> tmus:  what are you trying to launch?
[07:00] <tmus> Rainmeter
[07:00] <tmus> because conky is fail for me
[07:01] <hexdump_> is it a .bin .sh .pl what is it?
[07:01] <tmus> exe
[07:01] <hexdump_> I have no idea what Rainmeter is
[07:01] <tmus> http://rahulthewall.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/the-perfect-conky-setup/#comment-63 is what i want
[07:01] <hexdump_> you can't launch exe in linux unless you use wine
[07:01] <tmus> it's basically a resource monitor
[07:01] <tmus> do i download wine?
[07:01] <hexdump_> tmus:  open synaptic
[07:01] <tmus> sudo apt-get....
[07:02] <hexdump_> sudo synaptic or sudo apt-get install
[07:02] <tmus> got it installed
[07:03] <hexdump_> tumus:  sudo apt-get install wine
[07:03] <hexdump_> ok well try and launch your exe now then
[07:03] <hexdump_> I haven' t really fooled around with it much
[07:03] <hexdump_> but I think wine will takeover when you try to launch an exe
[07:03] <hexdump_> or open with I'm not sure
[07:04] <tmus> got wine installed now too
[07:04] <hexdump_> ok so u can't open it or what?
[07:05] <tmus> whats the command? wine file.exe ?
[07:06] <lordraptor> ya
[07:06] <hexdump_> there ya have it
[07:07] <tmus> still cant find package
[07:07] <tmus> let me head to #rainmeter
[07:10] <tmus> sweet
[07:10] <tmus> got adobe air installed
[08:05] <tmus> oh my god i'm going to shoot myself. help me install Bespin please
[08:05] <tmus> http://www.kotfu.net/2008/11/installing-bespin-on-kubuntu-8-10/ makes it look easy
[08:07] <gottto> where does it give you greif tmus ?
[08:07] <ForgeAus> whats bespin?
[08:07] <gottto> s/greif/grief
[08:07] <ForgeAus> the name sounds familiar
[08:08] <tmus> i have a cloudcity folder saved in Home>cloudcity
[08:08] <ForgeAus> hmmm... Toxykologee
[08:08] <gottto> hehe a replacement for kwin it seems
[08:08] <tmus> so i run the first step
[08:09] <ForgeAus> then bespin --replace ???
[08:09] <ForgeAus> or do you mean its a theme, a replacement for oxygen something like that?
[08:09] <tmus> shall i post a screen shot of the Konsole
[08:09] <ForgeAus> or a QT/KDE widget style?
[08:09] <tmus> it's a new theme type thing
[08:10] <tmus> im so new to kubuntu so idk anything really
[08:10] <tmus> look at the link
[08:10] <gottto> "Now you can go to System Settings and Bespin will be a choice for window decorations and widget styles."
[08:10] <tmus> i dont see it
[08:10] <tmus> but i couldnt get the configure part figured out
[08:11] <gottto> tmus: you need to be in the dir the configure file is in
[08:12] <tmus> ~/cloudcity $
[08:12] <tmus> that seems to be the right directory
[08:12] <ForgeAus> bespin is quasi-mac-like
[08:13] <gottto> tmus: that should be    ~/cloudcity   from the howto - so   cd ./cloudcity   in konsole and the do   ls   and look for configure
[08:13] <tmus> i want to get rid of those long windows on the task bar
[08:13] <tmus> nosuch directory :/
[08:14] <ForgeAus> have you been here? http://ubuntuevolution.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/nice-bespin-kde-4-desktop-part-1/
[08:14] <ForgeAus> it details instructions there
[08:15] <tmus> no
[08:15] <tmus> but i'll report back in a bit
[08:21] <noaXess> hello all around the small eWorld :)
[08:21] <ForgeAus> I have a feeling it just got a little larger
[08:21] <noaXess> is there any color picker tool.. to get any color i see on the desktop, get html code, hex code...
[08:22] <noaXess> ForgeAus: maybe.. but not the eWorld..
[08:22] <ForgeAus> oh and don't ask me what I mean by that because I have absolutely no idea :)...
[08:37] <penocio> is there a way to install windows while having linux in a seperate partition, as windows do not disturb the grub boot system and linux option in startup grub remains as it is?
[08:42] <tmus> followed it for the most part
[08:42] <tmus> still dont see "Bespin" as an option
[08:42] <tmus> unless it's called something else
[08:47] <goshawk> hi, how do i move a window to a desktop using a shortcut?
[09:07] <Guest72838> goshawk: you have to set it up yourself afaik ;) system-settings/keyboard&mouse if you haven't found it yet
[09:07] <goshawk> Guest72838: yes, i already found and did it! thanks
[09:08] <Guest72838> i thought you might have ;)
[09:24] <Torch> where are the debug symbols for libdbus-1-3? shouldn't there be a package dbus-dbg?
[09:35] <tmus> ahh i did everything right and its still not showing up
[09:55] <phoenix_> is there any parental control software that can block unwanted websites
[10:39] <vivek> hii all I need help.. I am a kubuntu newbie .. installed karmic(Kubuntu) on my system , instaled firefox through the inbuilt installer , but when I run youtube, I get no sound, the videos are working perfect, but no sound, (sound is working perfect in amarok and dragon player)
[10:39] <vivek> would be great if someone could please help me with this
[10:41] <phoenix_> vivek: hello vivek
[10:41] <bigbrovar> vivek: go to your volume manager and select the mixer. and try to increase pcm slider
[10:41] <bigbrovar> vivek: move it up and see if that helps
[10:41] <vivek> hii phoenix
[10:41] <vivek> ok trying
[10:41] <phoenix_> vivek: what bigbrovar told is the possible solution
[10:42] <phoenix_> vivek: are you using laptop
[10:42] <vivek> no phoenix: it is a desktop
[10:42] <vivek> no phoenix: it is a desktop
[10:42] <phoenix_> vivek: do you increase the pcm level
[10:43] <vivek> phoenix : you are my god
[10:43] <bigbrovar> vivek: did you try what I suggested?
[10:43] <vivek> you did it
[10:43] <vivek> phoenix: I have been working on this since past one hour , posted on forums, everywhere,thanks a tonne
[10:44] <phoenix_> vivek:  thank bigbrovar
[10:44] <vivek> I wanted to ask one more thing phoenix:
[10:44] <phoenix_> vivek: ya
[10:44]  * bigbrovar appearantly am invisible ro vivek :'(
[10:44] <vivek> ohh thanks bigbrovar:.. thanks a tonne
[10:44] <vivek> sorry bigbrovar:
[10:45] <vivek> real sorry
[10:45] <vivek> ok so here is my nexk issue
[10:45] <phoenix_> vivek: tell me'
[10:46] <vivek> apt never works with firefox.. so I went about doing this-->sudo apt-get install apturl firefox-3.5-gnome-support
[10:46] <bigbrovar> vivek: phoenix_ group hug
[10:47] <seck> hi
[10:47] <vivek> now when I click on any link it comes up with something like"unsupported karmic-partner"
[10:47] <seck> i need help with a nvidia card
[10:47] <seck> somebody cans help to me
[10:47] <seck> ?
[10:47] <vivek> a very big hug bigbrovar: and phoenix_:
[10:47] <phoenix_> vivek: me too
[10:47] <vivek> we have two geeks here seck.. am sure they will help you out
[10:48] <seck> im new with kubuntu
[10:48] <seck> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[10:48] <phoenix_> vivek: you are using mozilla firefox right?
[10:49] <seck> i dont know how tio instal it
[10:49] <bigbrovar> vivek: to be frank firefox support for kde sucks balls, I use google chrome (or chromium) which has a much better kde integration and works with apturl out of the box
[10:49] <vivek> yes phoenix_:
[10:49] <phoenix_> bigbrovar: thats true
[10:49] <phoenix_> vivek: use google chrome
[10:50] <seck> sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run what is wrong with it?
[10:50] <bigbrovar> seck: the best way to install nvidia drivers on u/kbuntu is to use the "hardware-driver" tool which would download, install and configure your nvidia driver for u
[10:50] <vivek> aha.. ok so I can send firefox out too bigbrovar:& phoenix_:.. but then before that can you help me with uninstalling all that i have installed using sudo apt-get install apturl firefox-3.5-gnome-support
[10:50] <phoenix_> seck: you have to install after you login console mode
[10:50] <seck> i try it but the button to activate does not work
[10:50] <bigbrovar> seck: although the drievrs it uses are not the latest. its the safest way to install nvidia cards
[10:51] <bigbrovar> vivek: sudo apt-get remove apturl firefox-3.5-gnome-support
[10:51] <phoenix_> seck: activate?
[10:51] <seck> lol i dont know how to do it
[10:52] <vivek> will it remove all those dependent files too which it had installed along with it
[10:52] <phoenix_> phoenix_: save the .run file some you can remember
[10:52] <bigbrovar> vivek: sudo aptitude remove apturl firefox-3.5-gnome-support
[10:52] <phoenix_> seck: save the .run file some you can remember
[10:52] <seck> yaa
[10:52] <phoenix_> seck: logout
[10:52] <bigbrovar> vivek: my last command would remove all the dependencies
[10:52] <vivek> so which one do I use apt-get or aptitude
[10:53] <vivek> ok thanks bigbrovar:
[10:54] <phoenix_> vivek:  do you live in tamilnadu
[10:54] <vivek> bigbrovar: it says 26 files removed... whereas while installing it had installed 72 files
[10:55] <seck> isntall something on linux are being hardest than my profesional test ¬¬
[10:56] <vivek> guys one more help
[10:56] <phoenix_> seck: remember "linux is growing"
[10:57] <vivek> seck: I am sure, two weeks down the line you will find it much much easier than windows
[10:57] <bigbrovar> seck: you are trying to install something in an unsupported method... you can blame linux for Nvidia not packaging their apps the official way anymore can u blame windows for amarok not being single install binary on windows
[10:57] <seck> im loving linux
[10:57] <seck> a lot of aplication are great
[10:57] <bigbrovar> seck: if u want to install nvidia use the hardware tool
[10:58] <phoenix_> bigbrovar: you can install the nvidia driver easily from kde,in some cards we need t reinstall the driver for every kernel update
[10:59] <vivek> bigbrovar: and phoenix: I need help with these chmod commands.. I am trying to convert the permission of a file in my root directory to read and write(the directory path something like /apache2/sites-enabled/000-default)
[10:59] <vivek> how should the chmod command be like
[11:00] <seck> im mexican soo my english is sucks and sometimes y said things and peolpe understand it in a diferent way
[11:00] <seck> is very hard to be understed
[11:01] <phoenix_> seck: your english is not bad
[11:02] <seck> jojjo kopete is great
[11:02] <vivek> bigrovar: / phoenix: need help with above please.....
[11:02] <seck> is incredible kubuntu runs with 256 mb of ram
[11:03] <seck> this is a free chat or im spamming?
[11:03] <vivek> but seck: phoenix: I feel the CPU usage of Kubuntu is more than Ubuntu
[11:03] <vivek> but seck: phoenix: I feel the CPU usage of Kubuntu is more than Ubuntu
[11:04] <seck> ubuntu looks so sad
[11:04] <seck> it colors
[11:04] <seck> also gnome do not like me
[11:05] <phoenix_> !chmod
[11:05] <phoenix_> vivek: read the above link
[11:06] <vivek> ok thanks ubottu: and phoenix: will read that and get back in case of issues
[11:06] <seck> if i emul a driver with exe extension with wine will be work?
[11:10] <phoenix_> vivek: seck i am having some connectivity issue
[11:10] <seck> i must levae?
[11:10] <seck> leave
[11:12] <vivek> not qa prob phoenix:
[11:13] <vivek> phoenix: is there any way I can monitor the start up applications on Kubuntu.. In gnome there is a gui which helps you to monitor start up apps
[11:13] <vivek> is there any way I can monitor the start up applications on Kubuntu.. In gnome there is a gui which helps you to monitor start up apps
[11:13] <seck> how i turn off kde
[11:15] <vivek> seck: are you running KDE and Gnome both
[11:16] <seck> to install it i must turn off the grafic mode im right?
[11:16] <seck> im reading abotu it
[11:24] <seck> somebody can helps me with the remte dektop lol
[11:26] <Lewiis> good evening, I was hoping someone might be able to shed some insight into why in the last couple of days my sound will suddenly stop working until i do a reboot.
[11:26] <Lewiis> @seck what type of help do you need?
[11:27] <seck> i need to installa a driver
[11:27] <seck> nvidia driver
[11:27] <seck> im reading on forums i need to shot down the grafic mode
[11:27] <seck> how can i do it?
[11:27] <Lewiis> oh cool.  i may be a bit of a noob but i think i can help you with that
[11:28] <seck> jaja then im the noobs king
[11:28] <Lewiis> hmmmm... that sentence didn't make too much sense to me.  Do you already have nvidia drivers that you want to update or just the ones that came with kubuntu?
[11:28] <vivek> hiiii
[11:28] <seck> i already donwload it
[11:29] <vivek> does anyone here know how to use sudo nano
[11:29] <vivek> what have you downloaded seck:
[11:29] <Lewiis> @seck, do you need to know how to run it?
[11:29] <Lewiis> /install it?
[11:29] <vivek> Lewis: can you help me with sudo nano
[11:30] <Lewiis> @vivek errrr... probably not, i'm a bit of a noob, what do you need to know?
[11:30] <seck> this is the file i downloaded
[11:30] <seck> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[11:30] <Lewiis> @seck, what I did was enable some 3rd party drivers in the repository and installed it from there.  I'll try and find you some instructions on how to do that
[11:31] <vivek> well Lewis: i ran the commane to edit a file as a root user, did edit the file , but then there are few command sbelow , which are not mose clickable too
[11:31] <vivek> mouse*
[11:33] <Lewiis> the ^ means press CTRL
[11:33] <rork> vivek: use Control + the key given before the commands
[11:33] <seck> a window with this info  is running "driver for grafic card nvidia (version 96) recomended but the activate button do not work
[11:33] <Lewiis> so to Save press CNTRL + O
[11:33] <Lewiis> @seck - thats the EXACT problem I had.  let me try and work out how i fixed it
[11:34] <seck> ok im reading but all articles are in english and i have problems to understand it
[11:34] <vivek> thanks rork: and Lewiis:
[11:35] <seck> i dont want to be a lammer
[11:35] <Lewiis> @seck where did you download it too?
[11:36] <seck> nvidia page
[11:36] <Lewiis> i meant on your computer
[11:36] <Lewiis> to the desktop?
[11:36] <seck> oo
[11:36] <seck> no
[11:36] <seck> documents
[11:36] <seck> lol
[11:36] <Lewiis> okay
[11:36] <FloodBotK3> seck: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:37] <seck> flood is send several messages ?
[11:37] <Lewiis> news to me  :-P
[11:37] <Lewiis> okay
[11:37] <Lewiis> press alt+F2 and type "terminal"
[11:37] <seck> did
[11:38] <Lewiis> ok, type "cd Documents"
[11:38] <seck> jojo
[11:38] <seck> did
[11:39] <Lewiis> cool, type "sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run"
[11:40] <seck> lewis u are god
[11:40] <Lewiis> how're you going seck?
[11:41] <Lewiis> okay, now i think you need to reboot
[11:41] <Lewiis> type sudo reboot
[11:41] <Lewiis> please come back and tell me if it worked
[11:42] <seck> i dont know if i make a mistake
[11:42] <seck> the button that was failing
[11:42] <seck> is working now
[11:42] <Lewiis> is working?
[11:42] <seck> and i did push t
[11:42] <seck> yes
[11:42] <seck> i make mistake or its ok
[11:42] <seck> ?
[11:42] <Lewiis> reboot, then come back
[11:43] <Lewiis> i think/hope it worked!
[11:43] <seck> i must wait the instalation 38 percent left
[11:43] <seck> jojo
[11:43] <Lewiis> oh okay. cool
[11:43] <Lewiis> i'm a bit eager!
[11:43] <seck> know i know how to install programs
[11:43] <seck> this is like ms dos
[11:44] <Lewiis> it is a bit.  A lot of it is easier and cooler
[11:44] <seck> u must be ubicated on the correct directory
[11:44] <Lewiis> the best thing is if you know the name of something you want to install you can just type "sudo apt-get install *******" and it will install it for you
[11:45] <seck> this is not hardest
[11:45] <seck> hard
[11:45] <seck> so why i have problems with the button?
[11:45] <Lewiis> i really wish someone could fix my problem now!
[11:45] <Lewiis> i have no idea.  I think it will be fixed after the reboot though
[11:45] <seck> ooo it stops at 92 percent
[11:46] <seck> naa its ok
[11:46] <Lewiis> lol
[11:46] <seck> lewis with 64 mb of video and 3
[11:46] <seck> d acelerator i can run the desktop efects?
[11:47] <Lewiis> i don't know.  I think you should be able to run at least some.  64mb isn't much anymore though
[11:47] <seck> :(
[11:47] <Lewiis> let me guess, GForce4 MX440?
[11:47] <seck> brb i must restart
[11:47] <seck> yes it is
[11:47] <Lewiis> haha, i had one of them back in the day
[11:48] <Lewiis> cool. see you soon. Good luck
[11:48] <seck> brb
[11:48] <Lewiis> If I kill X will it close all my programs?
[11:51] <Lewiis> the answer to that would be "yes"
[11:51] <seck> lewis
[11:51] <Lewiis> hey!
[11:51] <seck> still here?
[11:51] <Lewiis> did it work?
[11:51] <seck> yes
[11:51] <seck> the cube
[11:51] <seck> works
[11:51] <Lewiis> YAY!
[11:51] <FloodBotK3> seck: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <seck> will sounds stupid
[11:51] <seck> but im crying
[11:51] <Lewiis> it must be if you type something more than a few times in a minute
[11:51] <Lewiis> lol
[11:51] <Lewiis> been trying to fix it long?
[11:52] <seck> can u change it i dont understand
[11:52] <Lewiis> have you been trying to get the drivers working for a long time?
[11:53] <seck> like 4 years
[11:53] <Lewiis> look in the other window.  I've opened a private track so we don't flood this channel
[11:54] <Lewiis> *private chat
[12:13] <Lewiis> Is it normal that there isn't any activity for a long time or is there something wrong with my connection?
[12:14] <Lewiis> hi cortex
[12:14] <bazhang> Lewiis, generally people ask questions; if others know they will reply
[12:16] <Lewiis> @bazhang - cool, thanks.
[12:46] <kwtm> Hi.  I downloaded the kubuntu lucid beta2 dvd via Firefox (I think it was charles-tkc that gave me the http address).  Anyone know where I can get a MD5 sum for that?
[12:48] <Pici> kwtm : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[12:49] <kwtm> Pici: You're right, I got the kubuntu DVD torrent URL from this channel, but the direct download was from the #ubuntu+1 channel.  Thanks, though.
[12:50] <kwtm> But why is #kubuntu+1 not joinable?  (And why do people on #ubuntu+1 not know about Kubuntu 10.04?)
[12:51] <Pici> kwtm: #kubuntu+1 forwards to #ubuntu+1, we don't have separate channels for each Ubuntu flavor for the beta/alphas
[12:53] <kwtm> Pici: Yeah, that's not a problem.  Problem is most of the time people can't answer Kubuntu questions there.  WIll see how things are tonight.
[12:53] <Pici> kwtm: md5sums are here anyway: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/10.04/beta-2/
[12:58] <kubuntu-ku> hi . . . how should i set up my Evolution's account editor for news reading or nntp ?
[12:59] <kwtm> Pici: MD5 checks out.  Thanks.
[13:04] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. I'm yet to install KDE 4.4.2 on my old machine - can akonadi, strigi, nepomuk and virtuoso all be disabled permanently ? I know for sure that they will kill my machine
[13:08] <Lord-Rahl> anyone know how to set email to be inline in kmail
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[13:33] <Lewiis> @Blue Hi
[13:34] <Lewiis> Its been some time, new people etc.  Hopefully someone can help me now.  My sound stops working sometimes and the only way to fix it is to restart my computer or X
[13:34] <Lewiis> any ideas?
[15:34] <hafidz> anyone here?
[15:34] <hafidz> i have prob
[15:34] <hafidz> hello.iwhen i open application>ubuntu software center. it does try to load but few seconds later it closed. i now cannot use software center. yesterday i can still use it. can someone answer me how to make it working again? I don't want to reinstall ubuntu as it is a last chance. anyone know how to fix this bug?
[15:35] <evilshadeslayer_> hafidz: um you need #ubuntu
[15:35] <hafidz> hmm
[15:35] <hafidz> okay
[15:35] <hafidz> i already in that channel
[15:35] <hafidz> but no one reply
[15:35] <hafidz> to my question
[15:35] <evilshadeslayer_> !patience | hafidz
[15:36] <hafidz> ok.thanks guy
[15:51] <hafidz> already solved the prob
[15:51] <hafidz> :)
[16:04] <Guest60610> !list
[16:16] <Hazamonzo> Hey folks. Im having problems watching a webex in firefox (kubuntu 9.10). It says i haven't got Java installed but that is lies!
[16:16] <Hazamonzo> http://imagebin.org/92381
[16:16] <Hazamonzo> There you can see java is enables in FF, the error i get in FF and my Java version
[16:17] <Hazamonzo> Why might Java not be enabled / working on Firefox?
[16:33] <James147> Hazamonzo: Does java work onm other sites?
[16:34] <Hazamonzo> James147: It did. I just fixed it. Didn't realise i need a seperate java plugin for FF
[16:34] <Hazamonzo> James147: Thanks for getting back to me though
[17:06] <lalalol> how do i install java?
[17:07] <lalalol> sudo apt-get install java
[17:07] <lalalol> ?
[17:12] <evilshadeslayer> lalalol: ah you did try it :)
[17:15] <evilshadeslayer> !java
[17:39] <shadeslayer_> lalalol: the plugin did it for me here..
[17:48] <lalalol> how can i set vlc to be default player for all audio and video and media etc?
[17:50] <nerdy_kid> anyone know where i can find a ppa for phonon-backend-vlc?
[17:51] <freddy_> hey everybody
[17:52] <freddy_> dont know if this is the right channel to solve kde related issues and get help
[17:52] <lalalol> !kde
[17:52] <lalalol> i think #kde is better suited
[17:52] <freddy_> thx
[17:53] <lalalol> yw
[17:58] <ian__> Can anyone give me a simple list of what I need to do to install a standard KDE desktop on a working version of Ubuntu?
[17:59] <ian__> That should be 9.10
[17:59] <mefisto__> ian__: here's the list: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <ian__> Thank you!
[18:00] <lalalol> how can i set vlc to be default player for all audio and video and media etc?
[18:01] <WaltzingAlong> file associations
[18:01] <nerdy_kid> lalalol systemsettings/advanced/file assoications :)
[18:01] <mefisto__> lalalol: afaik, there's no way to do it simply. change file associations for all the media files you can think of
[18:03] <lalalol> ok >.<
[18:03] <WaltzingAlong> especially just the ones you notice opening with the other players
[18:04] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: but that could just as easily be a question for #kde as well
[18:04] <lalalol> my bad
[18:04] <mefisto__> lalalol: you can also change file associations by right-clicking a file, properties, then click the spanner button
[18:05] <lalalol> thx
[18:05] <lalalol> thisll keep me amused for hours lol
[18:06] <lalalol> hahahahaha, i got a better idea
[18:06] <lalalol> im just gonna uninstall dragon player
[18:09] <lalalol> uh-oh, what does this mean: "Removing kubuntu-desktop ..."?
[18:10] <WaltzingAlong> package kubuntu-desktop is being removed
[18:10] <lalalol> >.<
[18:10] <lalalol> so i cant use my desktop anymore?
[18:10] <WaltzingAlong> kubuntu-desktop pulls in dragon player. removing dragon player means one of the requirements of the kubuntu-desktop package will not be available so it too has to be removed
[18:11] <mefisto__> lalalol: it's ok really. it won't remove anything
[18:11] <lalalol> thx mefisto__
[18:11] <WaltzingAlong> not nocessarily. the kubuntu-desktop is there to tie all packages together for a kubuntu desktop, easy on upgrades, ...
[18:12] <lalalol> oh ****
[18:13] <WaltzingAlong> it is not the "kubuntu desktop" itself, just a way to pull in all the packages needed for it
[18:13] <lalalol> should i keep K3b?
[18:13] <lalalol> can vlc burn cd's and dvd's?
[18:14] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: afaik vlc is a media player, does not burn
[18:15] <lalalol> ok WaltzingAlong, thx :)
[18:37] <jimmy51_> for about a week now i can only have one app at a time using sound.  it's intel HDA, but it worked for a long time.  i installed updates and now any app that uses sound locks it up so no others can until it closes.  what's up with that?
[18:38] <jimmy51_> (kubuntu 9.10 x64)
[18:50] <tmus> i need to be root to perform this script...what and how do i do that
[18:50] <jimmy51_> tmus:  run it with sudo
[18:51] <jimmy51_> example:    sudo /home/myusername/scriptname.sh
[18:51] <jimmy51_> BUT.... don't run it unless you know what it does
[18:51] <anoneemouse> hi... Im having trouble with the xine audio backend
[18:51] <jimmy51_> anoneemouse: does it involve audio only working in one app at a time?
[18:52] <anoneemouse> it screws up the sample rate of my soundcard, and everything sounds sglitchy and slow
[18:52] <anoneemouse> nope... i dont even want to try that
[18:52] <anoneemouse> the funny thing is the fact that it was broken in 9.04, when i upgraded to 9.10 it was fixed, and now it broke itself again
[18:53] <jimmy51_> yuck
[18:53] <jimmy51_> mine worked fine until a few days ago
[18:53] <jimmy51_> i don't know what update did it
[18:53] <gimp_> Kubuntu RULEZ
[18:53] <anoneemouse> for deaf people kubuntu must be great... but youtube videos are starting to suck without sound
[18:54] <anoneemouse> whats wrong with yours jimmy?
[18:54] <tmus> make sure your PCM is all the way up
[18:54] <jimmy51_> i have audio, but only in one app at a time
[18:54] <jimmy51_> for example, if i open amarok and play an MP3, no other apps will have sound
[18:54] <jimmy51_> unless i close amarok, and then reopen the other app
[18:55] <jimmy51_> then, amarok won't have sound unless i first close the other app that had sound locked
[18:55] <jimmy51_> it is super annoying
[18:55] <anoneemouse> tmus how is that supposed to help
[18:55] <tmus> idk
[18:55] <anoneemouse> just makes the noise louder
[18:55] <jimmy51_> :)
[18:56] <tmus> i'm a newb to kubunutu anyway
[18:56] <tmus> been trying to get conky to work
[18:56] <anoneemouse> ive been using it for a whole... and im still a noob
[18:56] <tmus> http://rahulthewall.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/the-perfect-conky-setup/
[18:56] <anoneemouse> i think ive ruined it completely 3 times already
[18:56] <tmus> that's the setup i want
[18:58] <James147> !sound | anoneemouse
[18:58] <mefisto__> anoneemouse: does your mixer have a setting to choose clock rate or sample rate?
[18:58] <anoneemouse> nope it does not mefisto__
[18:59] <WaltzingAlong> !flash
[18:59] <James147> tmus: what problem are you having?
[19:00] <tmus> well actually i'm trying to install Bespin for the moment
[19:00] <tmus> http://ubuntuevolution.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/nice-bespin-kde-4-desktop-part-1/
[19:00] <tmus> and i did all the steps but it's still not showing up
[19:00] <James147> tmus: not showing up in system settings?
[19:01] <anoneemouse> its not just flash that doesnt have sound... there is no sound anywhere, and i think it is Kubuntu specific
[19:01] <tmus> yes
[19:01] <anoneemouse> those sound tips are no help at all
[19:01] <mefisto__> anoneemouse: you have no sound at all?
[19:02] <anoneemouse> no... i have sound, but the sample rate is wrong
[19:02] <tmus> i double checked that the nmsnfs is in the .kde/share/icons folder
[19:02] <anoneemouse> i meant no correct sound
[19:02] <tmus> and i've repeated the entire process like 5 times :/
[19:03] <anoneemouse> also i dont have the test sound to see if alsa output is correct
[19:03] <anoneemouse> ;/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[19:03] <NoRedemption> hi
[19:03] <James147> tmus: the nmfnms part is just to get the icons to work, the bit before that is getting bespin to work
[19:03] <James147> tmus: you get any errors why completing the steps (before the nmfnms part)?
[19:04] <mefisto__> anoneemouse: speaker-test -twav -c2 -l1
[19:05] <anoneemouse> can i paste 2 lines here?
[19:05] <mefisto__> 2 is ok
[19:05] <anoneemouse> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[19:05] <anoneemouse> Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[19:05] <tmus> just did the first four steps with no problem
[19:05] <anoneemouse> when i ran that command i got that error
[19:06] <James147> tmus: up to the ./configure help?
[19:07] <tmus> just about to type Y
[19:07] <James147> tmus: do it :) then run the next three steps
[19:07] <tmus> Do you want to run a cmake GUI to adjust the configuration? [y/N]
[19:08] <James147> tmus: tell me if you get any errors (and stop when you do )
[19:08] <James147> tmus: just hit enter
[19:09] <tmus> 2 errors
[19:09] <James147> !pastebin | tmus
[19:09] <James147> tmus: can you pastebin the output
[19:10] <tmus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/411726/
[19:11] <James147> tmus: try re running the 4 sudo apt-get commands at the top
[19:11] <tmus> :/ i have done that a lot
[19:12] <tmus> are any of those packages or programs i need to install?
[19:12] <James147> tmus:  all the packages you need are installed by the first 4 commands
[19:13] <James147> tmus: one sec, going to run through it on my mechiene (have dont it before but they might have made changes and broken things)
[19:14] <tmus> everything says it's the newest version
[19:16] <James147> tmus: built ok here :S
[19:17] <tmus> http://www.kotfu.net/2008/11/installing-bespin-on-kubuntu-8-10/ is a little bit different
[19:17] <James147> tmus: hmmm... did you delete all the files between tries?
[19:17] <tmus> i dont remember deleting anything
[19:18] <tmus> should i delete all cloudcity files and start over?
[19:18] <James147> tmus: yes
[19:19] <James147> tmus: you can always install bespin from the repos "sudo aptitude install kde-style-bespin"
[19:20] <James147> wont get the icons, but you can run the part for getting the icons seperatly
[19:21] <tmus> I wish somebody had told me that
[19:21] <tmus> that took like 2 seconds
[19:21] <James147> tmus:  :)
[19:21] <tmus> thanks!!!
[19:35] <Frederick> folks ive installed kubuntu but grub could not find the other linux distro I had installed which tool can I use to edit the grub menu:? I know there was a tool but I si
[19:35] <Frederick> mply cannot remmeber it
[19:36] <James147> Frederick: for grub2 its "sudo update-grub"
[19:36] <James147> that should locate all your os's and place them in the bootloader
[19:37] <tmus> any way to get like a windows 7 type taskbar?
[19:37] <James147> tmus: stask or smoothtasks
[19:37] <tmus> which do you prefer?
[19:37] <Frederick> James147 but there was something like grub menu editor
[19:39] <James147> Frederick: grub1 use to have a menu.list where you could put entries in for operating systems, but tah no longer exists with grub 2
[19:39] <James147> tmus: smoothtasks is a fork of stasks (i think stasks is no longer maintained) however stask is in the repos (not that smoothtasks is that hard to install manually)
[19:41] <mcc> bbb
[19:41] <tmus> when i open it with ark, how do i install it
[19:41] <tmus> i've never understood how to install stuff
[19:42] <tmus> not as dumbed down as windows
[19:42] <James147> tmus: problem is there are so many ways to install things :)
[19:42] <tmus> i dont know a single one
[19:43] <tmus> except maybe apt-get
[19:43] <tmus> can you walk me through it :>
[19:43] <Frederick> folks i think I broken my new install anything I try to install I get http://pastebin.com/KfAXRYx7
[19:43] <Frederick> what can I do?
[19:44] <James147> tmus: one sec finding smoothtask
[19:44] <tmus> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586
[19:44] <mefisto__> Frederick: did you try sudo apt-get -f install
[19:44] <James147> Frederick: have you tryed running "sudo aptitude install -f"?
[19:44] <Frederick> yes
[19:45] <James147> Frederick: try "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude isntall -f"  might not work but worth a shot :)
[19:46] <mefisto__> Frederick: do you want nautilus-dropbox? do you use nautilus?
[19:51] <James147> tmus: down load and extract the file (http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586)
[19:55] <James147> tmus: you still there?
[19:56] <James147> :(
[20:13] <ypsidux> hello - is there a german support channel?
[20:14] <tsimpson> ypsidux: yes, #kubuntu-de
[20:15] <ypsidux> tsimpson: thx
[20:22] <Frederick> folks nayone here had succes installing dropbox in kubuntu 9.1 in a 64 bit machine?
[20:23] <James147> Frederick: http://antrix.net/journal/techtalk/dropbox_kde.html
[20:24] <James147> Frederick: this may also be on intrest http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/dropbox-servicemenu-kde?content=115336
[20:28] <mauri> i have just buy scanner cannon lide 100 but it seems not support by lucid
[20:28] <mauri> i have just buy scanner cannon lide 100 but it seems not support by lucid ...I need help
[20:28] <James147> !lucid | mauri
[20:29] <mauri> Pici: it is the same for karmic
[20:29] <Frederick> James ive uncompacted the folkders oki?
[20:29] <Frederick> but now I cannot run the script drobboxd why is that?
[20:30] <James147> Frederick: not sure :S havnt tryed it myself
[20:32] <linux3> hey do you know how to change backgrounds in desktop
[20:44] <mauri> i have just buy scanner cannon lide 100 but it seems not supported
[20:56] <slow-motion> hi
[20:56] <vbgunz> I am in the market for a cheap printer that just prints. One preferably that works in Kubuntu 200%. How can I guarantee my purchase will work?
[20:57] <genii> !hcl
[20:58] <genii> Also second linke here...
[20:58] <genii> !printers
[20:59] <genii> vbgunz: When in doubt get something that can print in PostScript
[21:01] <vbgunz> yeah I got newegg and linuxprinting split side by side in konqueror
[21:02] <genii> vbgunz: I'd avoid anything by Lexmark at all costs
[21:03] <vbgunz> genii: this exactly why I ask. I got a garbage lexmark printer. I will never buy their products again even if tux on the box
[21:04] <genii> vbgunz: HP or Xerox if you can get one are good, otherwise Canon or Brother that knows PostScript would be my personal recommends
[21:05] <vbgunz> I would like any printer that works 100%. I just need to print some b&w text to be honest
[21:06] <genii> vbgunz: Are you looking at laser or inkjets?
[21:07] <vbgunz> inkjets seem the cheapest so far genii
[21:07] <vbgunz> why whats up?
[21:11] <genii> vbgunz: For black and white only laser printers you get most mileage from but they are pricier. If you just want something here and there for text and then maybe a color pic once in a while, etc, then some cheap HP deskjet like D1660 would do
[21:15] <vbgunz> genii: I understand. thank you!
[21:15] <genii> vbgunz: You're welcome
[21:16] <vbgunz> I looked into it and I see how it pans out
[21:16] <vbgunz> lasers cost more now but less later
[21:16] <vbgunz> I always wondered about that. ink sometimes cost more than a printer with ink... heh
[21:21] <genii> vbgunz: Yes, exactly.
[21:22] <rork> vbgunz: that's marketing: get them to buy your cheap printer now and force them to buy your expensive ink after that, or did you never wonder why you had to buy the ink that matched the printer?
[21:23] <vbgunz> heh
[21:30] <cuznt> i upgraded to lucid and now my kde will not boot up
[21:30] <cuznt> i can not even get recovery
[21:30]  * cuznt is a very silly w00kie
[21:31] <genii> !lucid | cuznt
[21:31] <vbgunz> genii you around?
[21:31] <cuznt> ty
[21:31] <genii> vbgunz: When work is not needing me, yes
[21:32] <vbgunz> this makes the point about printer to ink cartridge almost perfectly clear. the hp deskjet 1660 is 29.99. the ink cartridge is 33.99
[21:43] <genii> vbgunz: We use here an HP laserjet 1200 the toner is about $50  but we get a *lot* of pages from that. Also it never dries out like injet cartridges do
[21:49] <vbgunz> anybody got konqueror 4.4.2 and want to try something? visit this page http://www.walmart.com/browse/Computers/Printers-Ink/All-Printers/_/N-589oZaq90ZaqceZ1yzmd2m/Ne-lfpf?catNavId=3951&tab_value=Store&ic=12_0&ref=125875.243996+1000131.4292462254&search_sort=4&selected_items=+&depts= and hit any Find in store link next to a printer. Does Konqueror just close after filling out the form? I am going through hell with this :/
[22:06]  * James147 has finaly got mail forwarding to gmail :S
[22:10] <avihay> someone remembers if 8.10 was LTS or not?
[22:10] <arch0njw> vbgunz: tried it here.  worked for me.
[22:10] <arch0njw> 8.10 was NOT an LTS
[22:10] <arch0njw> 8.04 was
[22:10] <arch0njw> !hardy
[22:10] <avihay> thanks arch0njw
[22:14] <uikxx> hi pps .. any one now any about the skype and the kde ubuntu 10.04 mic  issues ??
[22:15] <arch0njw> uikxx: check in #ubuntu+1.  They talk about !lucid
[22:15] <uikxx> yes
[22:16] <uikxx> my mic is not working in side skype ..
[22:16] <uikxx> but every thing ales work ...
[22:16] <arch0njw> uikxx:  are you having problems in 9.10 or 10.04?
[22:16] <uikxx> 10.04 man
[22:17] <uikxx> the problem i have is the skype  input mic ..
[22:17] <arch0njw> uikxx: please join #ubuntu+1 and ask there.  That is the channel for Lucid for now.
[22:17] <uikxx> okej tnx
[22:19] <ubuntu> i need help
[22:21] <uikxx> ubuntu what is u r problem ?
[22:21] <James147> uikxx: he left
[22:21] <maco> uikxx: gnome?
[22:21] <uikxx> aiit,,
[22:22] <uikxx> yes
[22:22] <arch0njw> maco: *snort*
[22:22] <TeslaTony> Nope. No gnomes here. A few dwarves and elves, maybe...
[22:22] <uikxx> "ubuntu"
[22:22] <arch0njw> TeslaTony: don't forget the trolls...
[22:22] <TeslaTony> arch0njw: Nah. I think I'm the only one here right now.
[22:22] <arch0njw> TeslaTony: touche
[22:32] <Uiri> does anyone know where the kernel is?
[22:32] <jhutchins_lt> Is kubuntu doing the fancy new one-second load thing?
[22:34] <Tm_T> Uiri: in /boot/
[22:34] <Tm_T> Uiri: /boot/vmlinuz-*
[22:34] <elisionista> good evening
[22:36] <elisionista> my windows disapear wen I minimize them, I want them to go to the bottom panel. How can I set it up?
[22:38] <James147> elisionista: do you have the task manager in your panel?
[22:38] <elisionista> no I have removed it acidently
[22:39] <elisionista> how can I place it there again?
[22:39] <James147> elisionista: then you need to add it back :) Right click -> Planel settings -> add widget -> find "task manager" and drag it back
[22:40] <James147> elisionista: Note: you can rearrange the widgets in you panel when the panel settings are open
[22:40] <seck> hi is anybody here?
[22:40] <arch0njw> !hi
[22:41] <seck> how can i change my dektop image
[22:41] <seck> ?
[22:41] <arch0njw> seck: right-click on desktop
[22:42] <arch0njw> seck: choose "Desktop Activity Setting".  Choose "Wallpaper"
[22:42] <arch0njw> seck: change away :)
[22:43] <seck> yaa thnaks a lot
[22:44] <elisionista> james147: done! thanks for the help
[23:02] <jonatan> linux
[23:18] <markit> I'm trying to use kde with ltsp (kubuntu 10.04), but I've no notification if I plug a usb key. In #ltsp they tell me that with "gnome works", and kde is not "supported" (or something like this). Anyone using kde 4.4.2 and ltsp 5.2.1 here? If you point me to "#ubuntu+1" probably I will find 99% gnome people there again
[23:19] <markit> ("supported" = 99% in that channel use gnome, so can't help with kde)
[23:32] <Azkaban> Has anyone had a Samba error "More Data is available" when mounting a drive on windows xp.
[23:48] <phoenix___> Azkaban_: did you use kaspersky anti virus in windows xp
[23:48] <Azkaban_> no It has Mcafee
[23:49] <Azkaban_> This error only happens after a reboot. I mounts fine the first time, it just wont remount.
[23:51] <phoenix___> Azkaban_: some antivirus programs store extra info, that will be attached with the file, when you are coping a file from one os to other, there will be an option given to copy thhis data with that file, i guess thats what happening to you
[23:52] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[23:53] <wizkoder> just tried the new beta 2. And there is an error concerning the tray symbol for network access. It does not change when I am connected.
[23:53] <phoenix___> Azkaban_: try this http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1284182&postcount=15
[23:54] <phoenix___> wizkoder: did you right click the icon and press activate?
[23:55] <wizkoder> phoenix___: yes. I had to connect by hand
[23:56] <Azkaban_> phoenix___: I tested a VM that does not have anti-virus and it has the same error. Mounts fine and then reboot gets the error.
[23:56] <Domokun> Is there a place i can get widgets from? i am disappointed with the amount of widgets i can browse currently?
[23:57] <Domokun> oops period at the end of second sentence
[23:57] <phoenix___> wizkoder: ican understand, what do you mean
[23:57] <Azkaban_> phoenix___:  thanks for the link but I have already tried that form and still nothing.
[23:58] <Azkaban_> phoenix___: could it be how windows is storing the credentials
[23:58] <Azkaban_> phoenix___: Does xp have a credential manager like win 7?
[23:59] <phoenix___> Azkaban_: but, if thats the case, ho come that fello is successfully using
[23:59] <phoenix___> Azkaban_: dont know about that


[00:07] <belkinsa> Do you guys still do the month in-person Ubuntu meets?
[00:07] <belkinsa> monthly*
[00:09] <Unit193> My area doesn't, not sure about Cinci.
[00:13] <paultag> We used to do Ubuntu hours
[00:13] <paultag> in fact, we had one of the first Ubuntu hours
[00:15] <belkinsa> I remember those in 2009, but I never went to one.
[00:20] <paultag> yeah
[00:20] <paultag> good times
[00:20] <paultag> we used to have them for every ReLoCo
[00:20] <paultag> so we'd have 4 a month
[00:25] <belkinsa> Why did they stop?  Not enough folks?
[00:27] <paultag> people got busy
[00:27] <paultag> I left town, etc
[00:27] <belkinsa> I see, and a bit figured that out.
[00:28] <paultag> (I ran the Cleveland one)
[00:28] <belkinsa> I see.
[00:28] <paultag> 2now we have a weekly thing in Boston
[00:28] <paultag> but it's not an Ubuntu thing
[00:28] <paultag> but it's a F/OSS sorta-Debian thing
[00:28] <belkinsa> I see.
[00:29] <paultag> BRB hacking USB drivers
[00:30] <jrgifford> paultag: yeah, and i'm busy. :(
[00:31] <jrgifford> i'm hoping that turning 18 and suddenly having control of my schedule will loosen things enough that I can start having those again.
[00:31] <belkinsa> What city though?
[00:32] <jrgifford> cleveland
[00:32] <belkinsa> Okay.
[00:32] <belkinsa> I may try for Cinci or find the person who once ran them.
[00:39] <paultag> belkinsa: are you moving to Ohio?
[01:55]  * skellat wanders in to take a peek at the ZNC playback when he should instead be doing his recertification course for Precinct Election Officer
[03:18]  * skellat is recertified to conduct elections again
[14:19] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[14:20] <Unit193> And a hot one. :/
[14:23] <thafreak> it was before i got to work
[14:24] <skellat> .wx 44004
[14:24] <jenni> Cover: Scattered, Temp: 80.6°F (27°C), Dew Point: 71.6°F (22°C), Pressure: 30.15in (1018mb), Wind: Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KYNG 13:51Z
[14:24] <thafreak> My office is a meat locker
[14:24]  * Unit193 loves cold. :D
[14:24] <thafreak> until your hands can't type
[14:24] <skellat> We were having area-wide brown outs yesterday with the heat
[14:24]  * thafreak has to go to the bathroom to wash his hands just to warm them up enough to type again
[14:24] <Unit193> Yeah, that's generally a problem, but takes a bit to get ot that point for me.
[14:25] <jenni> oh baby
[14:25] <Unit193> thafreak!
[14:25] <skellat> And apparently it takes very little to stimulate jenni
[14:25] <Unit193> jrgifford: Hah, having fun with Pici? :D
[14:25] <thafreak> har har...who's got their hand up jenni's ....you know
[14:26]  * Unit193 points at <redacted>
[14:28] <thafreak> Anyone play with aufs and lxc?
[14:30] <skellat> Only time I encounter aufs is when I've booted a Puppy Linux disc
[14:47] <yano> this is the code for jenni's oh baby thingy: !http://git.io/OSeVRA
[15:33] <jrgifford> Unit193: something like that.
[15:34] <Unit193> (I linked him to the askubuntu thread.)
[15:35] <Unit193> Also, I must ask, does Castro do anything but troll askubuntu all day editing _every_ post??  Geeeez.
[15:49] <skellat> Unit193: Come to UbuCon Friday and you can ask him in person!
[16:49] <thafreak> yes, that is all he does...that and blog about juju
[17:25] <thafreak> nothing like getting an email from an 18 year old where they start off by calling you Mr. to make you feel old
[17:26] <Unit193> Mr Freak.
[18:21] <thafreak> nice
[18:21] <thafreak> real classy
[18:21] <paultag> hahahaha
[18:21] <paultag> Mr. Tagliamonte  ; never gets old
[18:22] <Unit193> Mine isn't bad, when they can actually say it right, so never.
[19:09] <jrgifford> Unit193: castro doesn't do anything else.
[19:10] <Unit193> Sure seemed like it.
[19:22] <paultag> jorge?
[19:22] <paultag> isn't he jujuguy
[20:39] <jrgifford> yeah
[20:50] <dzho> it always makes me uncomfortable, because invariable they want to say Dr. Dzho, even when the degree isn't relevant.  afaict, "Dr." is only appropriate for informal address.
[20:51] <dzho> then, I have a coworker who calls all the PhD's we work with "professor" even if they're just instructors or junior faculty or whatever.
[20:51] <dzho> because "Dr." means "physician" to her, and her daddy was one.
[21:11] <jrgifford> I know a guy who has his PhD, and he really dislikes being introduced as "Dr. so and so".
[21:11] <paultag> I know a bunch of people like that


[07:12] <dholbach> good morning
[10:15] <ochosi> hey dholbach
[10:16] <ochosi> as you've done that once before during this cycle already, i wanted to ask you whether you could help us merge some branches into xubuntu-default-settings
[10:17] <dholbach> hi ochosi
[10:18] <dholbach> ochosi, did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess?
[10:18] <dholbach> ochosi, that's a way to get everybody's eyes on a change which needs uploading and not just mine
[10:18] <dholbach> I'm a bit busy right now
[10:18] <ochosi> yes, i know
[10:18] <ochosi> ok
[10:18] <ochosi> well, the main problem is that we have no available developer that can merge even branches
[10:19] <dholbach> I don't understand... what's the problem?
[10:19] <dholbach> you have nobody in the xubuntu team who could do your (upstream?) code review?
[10:19] <ochosi> we only have 1 developer who can push to most of our branches, and he's a bit MIA
[10:20] <dholbach> is that access to projects on Launchpad or uploads to the ubuntu archive?
[10:20] <ochosi> we intended to change that, xubuntu project lead even approved adding more ppl to the -dev team (including me), but it hasn't happened (because of MIA)
[10:20] <ochosi> access to projects
[10:20] <ochosi> it used to be that xubuntu-dev team also had uploads
[10:20] <dholbach> gotcha
[10:20] <ochosi> but not anymore
[10:20] <dholbach> ah yes - it looks like it makes a lot of sense to decouple that
[10:20] <ochosi> yup
[10:21] <ochosi> so yeah, it's been a problem we've been having :)
[10:21] <ochosi> and i thought since we talked about this before and you merged some branches for us, i could ask you again, but if you're busy nvm
[10:21] <ochosi> we'll find another way, no worries
[10:22] <dholbach> feel free to drop me a mail with links to the branches and I'll have a look (if nobody got around to looking at them, once I'm done with the other stuff)
[10:22] <ochosi> ok, thanks, that's very kind of you
[10:23] <dholbach> dholbach at ubuntu dot com - thanks :)
[10:23] <Laney> ochosi: put it in the queue, I'll look shortly hopefully
[10:23] <Laney> patch piloting atm
[10:23] <ochosi> Laney: thanks! will do
[10:36] <ochosi> Laney: done
[10:39] <Laney> ty
[13:04] <Laney> ochosi: do you have one branch to rule them all for this?
[13:04] <Laney> like last time
[13:04] <Laney> brb
[13:22] <ochosi> Laney: not yet, but i can create one if needed/wanted
[13:22] <Laney> ochosi: would be easier if you can
[13:23] <ochosi> ok, will try to push that asap and ping you again once it's done
[13:23] <Laney> ty
[13:29] <ochosi> Laney: this is the branch, shall i update the bugreport as well? lp:~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/trusty_updates
[13:30] <Laney> ochosi: you can 'link a related branch' on the bug
[13:30] <ochosi> Laney: ok, done
[13:31] <Laney> ty, looking in a second
[13:31] <ochosi> let me know if there's more, i'm around
[14:06] <Laney> ochosi: done
[14:06] <Laney> now it'll wait in the unapproved queue for the release team
[14:06] <ochosi> thanks a lot Laney
[14:07] <ochosi> i really hope we don't have to bother you guys with this anymore next cycle...
[14:07] <ochosi> (or: i expect...)
[14:07] <Laney> yeah, hope so
[14:07] <Laney> In the meantime I don't mind helping out with uploads where possible
[14:10] <ochosi> thanks
[14:10] <ochosi> we have quite a few things in the sponsors queue, as you might've noticed
[14:10] <ochosi> i also hope Logan_ will help on this
[14:10] <Laney> I did some sponsoring earlier
[14:10] <Laney> arges is piloting in #ubuntu-devel if you want to ask for some stuff to be looked at
[14:10] <Laney> if anything's particularly urgent
[14:17] <ochosi> ok, thanks
[14:17] <ochosi> yeah, we have a few things that are security related