[12:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu has find if its used correctly
[12:43] <Minataku> Sorry, just thought it was weird but there's a reason behind it
[12:43] <Minataku> lol
[12:43] <Minataku> Sorry for the late reply XD
[12:53] <nixternal> nalioth: is there anything someone can do if they forgot their stupid network password?
[12:53] <SportChick> nixternal: did you register an email address when you registered your nick?
[12:53] <nixternal> it isn't me
[12:53] <nixternal> let me ask
[12:54] <nixternal> jeesh, he is to stooopid to even remember, he doesn't think he did
[12:54] <nalioth> stupid is as stupid does -- forrest gump
[12:55] <nixternal> haha true dat homey :)
[12:55] <SportChick> nixternal: what's the nick?
[12:55] <nixternal> posingaspopular
[12:56] <nixternal> haha, I told him hold on one second, we are scanning his computer
[12:56] <SportChick> hehe
[12:58] <SportChick> nixternal: he did not set an email
[12:58] <SportChick> he'll need to wait until the nick has been inactive for 60 days before we can drop it
[12:58] <nixternal> hahahaha
[12:58] <nixternal> good for him
[12:58] <SportChick> you might want to give him this link in the meantime:  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[12:58] <nixternal> heh, I was one minute ahead of you on that one :)
[01:16] <atoponce> now that i'm an ubuntu member, how do i setup the ubuntu.com email?
[01:16] <atoponce> i assume it's done through launchpad?
[01:17] <PriceChild> atoponce, your launchpad name @ubuntu.com is your email. All mail to it gets redirected to your launchpad default email
[01:17] <PriceChild> atoponce, Its set up automanually
[01:18] <atoponce> ok
[01:18] <atoponce> so, then i don't need to worry about adding it?
[01:18] <atoponce> about how long does it take to get sent?
[01:22] <atoponce> hmmm
[01:22] <atoponce> mail returned
[01:23] <PriceChild> atoponce, "automanually" - you may have to wait a day or so :)
[01:23] <atoponce> ahh. ok
[01:23] <atoponce> i'll keep an eye on it. thx
[01:24] <tsmithe> atoponce, are you part of the ubuntumembers team yet?
[01:24] <atoponce> tsmithe: yes
[01:24] <tsmithe> mrgh
[01:24] <atoponce> i was added monday
[01:24] <tsmithe> ah right
[01:30] <tsmithe> hiya Hobbsee
[01:30] <tsmithe> see Hobbsee, i did get a shiny new cloak!
[01:30] <Hobbsee> hey tsmithe :)
[01:30] <tsmithe> :)
[01:30] <PriceChild> tsmithe, Its still not right...
[01:30] <tsmithe> ?
[01:30] <PriceChild> however many times I see it
[01:31] <tsmithe> why not?
[02:05] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums, tsmithe said: !newb is <alias> noob
[02:05] <PriceChild> tsmithe, grr
[02:05] <tsmithe> :)
[02:05] <tsmithe> just doing my bit for the editing and improvement of the ubuntu project's irc bots
[02:33] <Hobbsee> !timebasedreleases
[02:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:24] <nalioth> hi Hobbsee
[05:24] <Hobbsee> hey nalioth :)
[05:24] <Madpilot> the Hobbsee arriveth.
[05:25] <Hobbsee> i do!
[05:25] <SportChick> hiya Hobbsee :D
[05:25] <Hobbsee> hey SportChick!!!
[05:26] <SportChick> hehe
[05:26] <SportChick> yay I got 3 ~!
[05:26] <Hobbsee> :D
[05:48] <Madpilot> quick poll: is blazemonger in #ubuntu trolling, or just a PEBKAC case?
[05:51] <PriceChild> Was gonna say PEBKAC then saw the mary jane and not so sure lol
[05:52] <Madpilot> MJ probably causes the PEBKAC...
[05:54] <PriceChild> mj Madpilot ?
[05:54] <Madpilot> 'mary jane'/BC's most prolific cash crop/etc
[05:54] <PriceChild> ah sorry I was being silly there
[05:55] <PriceChild> Is meeting in -meeting?
[05:56] <Madpilot> we're having a meeting?
[05:56] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: yes.  4mins
[05:56] <Hobbsee> haha
[05:56] <PriceChild> No-one reads the topic :)
[05:56] <PriceChild> No-one reads stickies... or announcements... :)
[05:57] <Madpilot> or documentation
[06:00] <elkbuntu> is the meeting now?
[06:00] <Hobbsee> haha
[06:00] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: should be
[06:07] <Madpilot> hmm... does @lart work in -meeting?
[06:07] <PriceChild> Madpilot, only one way to find out
[06:07] <Madpilot> true
[06:17] <Madpilot> you can't think in Zulu? Terrible.
[06:17] <Madpilot> err, UTC/Zulu/etc
[06:17] <elkbuntu> of for effs sake
[06:18] <nalioth> is the meeting live, or are we just milling about?
[06:18] <Hobbsee> we're waiting for Seveas
[06:20] <Madpilot> we're spamming -meeting's logs
[06:20] <nalioth> alrighty then
[06:20] <Hobbsee> so?  :P
[06:20] <mneptok> don't take that tone with me.
[06:23] <Hobbsee> @lart mneptok
[06:24] <nalioth> Hobbsee: you can send mneptok into a loop with lart 37
[06:25] <Hobbsee> nalioth: i could do that anyway :P
[06:25] <Hobbsee> @lart 37 mneptok
[06:26] <SportChick> @lart 29 Hobbsee
[06:27] <Hobbsee> @lart SportChick
[06:27] <Madpilot> SportChick, the one you're looking for is lart 28, I think
[06:27] <SportChick> awww mine was nicer :p
[06:27] <Madpilot> it's Hobbsee's favourite lart
[06:27] <SportChick> (by luck)
[06:27] <SportChick> Madpilot: hehe, I picked a number at random
[06:28] <Hobbsee> @lart 28 SportChick
[06:28] <SportChick> hehe
[06:29] <Madpilot> which part(s) are pointy, though?
[06:29] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: why, which were you hoping for? :P
[06:29] <mneptok> back in 10
[06:29] <Madpilot> No comment. None at all.
[06:30] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: hah.
[06:39] <Hobbsee> SportChick: heh.  thanks
[06:39] <Hobbsee> SportChick: i was curious to see how badly Madpilot would corner himself, though.
[06:39] <Hobbsee> and mneptok just wussed out.
[06:39] <Madpilot> I have slightly more tact than that, Hobbsee. Slightly.
[06:40] <Hobbsee> slightly, it seems.
[06:40] <SportChick> hehe
[06:47] <Hobbsee> wow, that killed the chat...
[06:47] <Hobbsee> hey tonyyarusso
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: 'allo
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Thought I was late for the meeting - 'parently not
[06:48] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: meeting appears to be called off, and Madpilot is suffering from an episode of foot in mouth disease
[06:48] <Madpilot> heh
[06:48] <nalioth> i'm fixing to fire up a DVD if we don't get started soon
[06:48] <mneptok> s/foot/hoof/
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> (Valentine's day + not remembering which time zone I'm in = slight delay)
[06:48] <SportChick> tonyyarusso!!  where've you been?!?
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Oh?  Why's that?
[06:49] <Jucato> so there's no meeting?
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> SportChick: Read your e-mail!
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> :P
[06:49] <SportChick> tonyyarusso: oh?
[06:49] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, I asked which bits of the Pointy Hobbsee of DOOM were pointy ;)
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> SportChick: assuming you get the -irc ML, that is
[06:49] <SportChick> since when do you have my email address, tonyyarusso
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Uh, the points.  duh
[06:49] <Jucato> Hobbsee: meeting is called off?
[06:49] <Hobbsee> Jucato: who knows
[06:49] <SportChick> tonyyarusso: not me :)
[06:49] <Jucato> uhm... ok... :(
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> SportChick: Ah, a'ight.  Taking some personal time then would be your answer.  :)
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> (The much much shorter answer...)
[06:50] <SportChick> tonyyarusso: bah
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> Mez: ping
[06:56] <SportChick> mez: run! (/me is being ornery tonight)
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Note to self/world: Check your existing bans _before_ going away...
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Is he still in Geneva, or at home again?
[07:05] <Mez> tonyyarusso, pong
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> Mez: Was wondering if you had site stuff set up and ready to go.
[07:06] <Mez> just point your NS at me or tell me what domain and I'll poke it
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> "poke it"?
[07:07] <Mez> (set it up)
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> I think I may just stick with the ns stuff I have - more flexibility that way (and no three day wait)
[07:08] <Mez> well as long as you set it up to point to me properly
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> right
[07:08] <mneptok> Ich bin der Musikant mit Taschenrechner in der Hand.
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> I think all that's left then is login info
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> (IP ending in .94 correct?)
[07:09] <Mez> mneptok, pervert
[07:10] <Mez> tonyyarusso, tonyyarusso.com ?
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Mez: correct
[07:10] <Mez> tonyyarusso, how much space would you like? (or more, do you need?)
[07:11] <Mez> just filling in limits on the setup form
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Mez: Well, I _just_ started with this one, so not much currently, but I would like to import old posts if I can get the script to work and such.  I don't have a very good idea of the size these things take, but generally speaking: lots of text, but few images.
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> I can always let you know if there's a problem coming up.
[07:12] <Mez> give me a MB amount
[07:12] <Mez> to put in the form
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> Mez: Shall I fire up the machine it was one and do a du?
[07:13] <Mez> lmao
[07:16] <Mez> I've set it as 500 for now, and only put a "warn" instead of a suspend
[07:17] <Mez> you should have an email, tonyyarusso
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> Cool
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> thanks
[07:17] <Mez> let me know if you dont get it
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[07:18] <Mez> (oh, and my websie's only using 125 Mb, and thats with an apt archive, a few Mp3s as well...
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> should be plenty then
[07:20] <Mez> tonyyarusso, Message accepted for delivery
[07:20] <Mez> so if you dont get it now
[07:20] <Mez> it's your mail systems fault not mine
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> So, if I just connected to the desktop via a crossover cable, and there is a connection up via Network-Manager, how do I find out the remote IP to ssh in?
[07:26] <Mez>  /var/log/dhcp.log ?
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> Mez: no such file
[07:39] <Mez> tonyyarusso, get the email ?
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> Mez: yep
[07:40] <Mez> cool, sorry the Control panel is confusing
[07:40] <Mez> but it;s nice once you get used to it
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> yeah, it's a little special
[07:42] <Mez> in the "special ed" stylee
[08:29] <Mez> hi stylus
[08:31] <stylus> lo Mez
[09:10] <Mez> mneptok, Ist es batteriebetrieben
[09:10] <Mez> ?
[09:13] <mneptok> Mondbetrieben
[09:14] <Mez> Mond? khl!
[09:30] <GazzaK> @pity 36 jenda
[09:30] <GazzaK> oops, wrong one
[09:31] <GazzaK> @pity 37 jenda
[09:31] <GazzaK> thats the one
[09:31] <Mez> jenda, why - we're talking about pocket calculators
[09:31] <Mez> moon powered apparently
[09:32] <GazzaK> anyone heard "moon chavs"?
[09:32] <jenda> I understood that part ;)
[09:32] <Mez> w00 my lug was in linux mag
[09:33] <Mez> which reminds me
[09:33] <Mez> *puts his ubuntu T shirt out to dry
[09:34] <Mez> lug meet later
[09:36] <GazzaK> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/336092  click on the "Watch this movie" :-)
[09:37] <jenda> Mez: :)
[09:37] <jenda> Mez: which shirt you got?
[09:38] <Mez> the misprinted one and a kubuntu one
[09:38] <jenda> hehe
[09:38] <GazzaK> misprinted?  how? :-)
[09:38] <jenda> does someone offer Kubuntu shirts?
[09:38] <Mez> jenda, yes, kenny duffus
[09:38] <jenda> oooh
[09:38] <Mez> GazzaK, the colours in the logo are wrong
[09:38] <jenda> Mez: And I didn't know...
[09:39] <Mez> jenda<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and sealne on IRC
[09:39] <Mez> jenda, lol - he's been selling them for a while
[09:39] <jenda> dayum
[09:39] <Mez> i got mine free though for helping on the KDE/kubuntu stall at last LRL
[09:39] <jenda> Well, I can't pay that any attention to it now, unfortunately :(
[09:39] <Mez> jenda: come to this years LRL :P
[09:40] <jenda> But I'll make sure he gets a spot on diy.devubuntu.com
[09:40] <jenda> Mez: when and where? ;)
[09:40] <Mez> http://www.lugradio.org/live/2007/index.php/Main_Page
[09:40] <Mez> read the very top of the page
[09:41] <jenda> kk
[09:41] <Mez> LugRadio Live 2007 ... 7th-8th July 2007 ... The Lighthouse, Fryer Street, Wolverhampton, UK
[09:41] <Mez> lmao
[09:41] <Mez> nice
[09:41] <Mez> i just realised that it's a picture of mark in the background
[09:41] <jenda> wee, I know that guy in the back :)
[09:41] <jenda> right... ;)
[09:42] <jenda> UK? Ain't ever going to that hole...
[09:42] <jenda> :)
[09:42] <jenda> Just kidding - would love to, but prolly won't get the chance.
[09:43] <Mez> ask mark if he'll give yu a lift on the buntucopter
[09:43] <Mez> or on canonical 1
[09:44] <GazzaK> jenda, I'd not come to the UK either, it's full of dragons
[09:44] <jenda> Mez: :-D
[09:45] <jenda> Mez: I'll ask him for that regarding Sevilla...
[09:45] <jenda> GazzaK: don't you kinda live there?
[09:45] <GazzaK> jenda, it's a big ish place
[09:45] <jenda> hehe
[09:45] <GazzaK> I'm sure you'd be safe
[09:46] <jenda> I've been there twice and I never felt safe ;)
[09:46] <GazzaK> well, I did mean, safe from me...
[09:46] <jenda> (BTW, whee, I'm changing planes in Moscow... so if anything happens...)
[09:46] <jenda> That's what I meant too.
[09:46] <GazzaK> awwww
[09:46] <GazzaK> I'd be nice
[09:47] <jenda> exactly.
[09:47] <jenda> ;)
[09:47] <jenda> Anyway, I gotta run.
[09:47] <GazzaK> byeeee
[10:03] <mneptok> what's her name? virginia plain.
[10:08] <elkbuntu> ok. so.. taking bets. how much would you guys bet that Seveas overslept and forgot the meeting?
[10:09] <GazzaK> meeting, what meeting?
[10:09] <elkbuntu> irc meeting
[10:09] <GazzaK> 5am UTC, thats cruel
[10:09] <elkbuntu> well.. it was made to take into consideration the people who would normally need to attend at 4am, aussies... hobbsee and myself
[10:10] <elkbuntu> so i rushed to be home at 4pm, and it didnt eventuate :(
[10:10] <GazzaK> 4am, that doesn't exist
[10:11] <GazzaK> 4am at night might exist, normally in the 24hour food place on the way home from a night out, but 4am in the morning is a lie
[10:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi elkbuntu
[10:24] <Seveas> elkbuntu, unfortunatly this was a case of real life getting massively in the way and not a case of oversleeping
[10:24] <Seveas> oversleeping doesn't mean being over 5 hours late
[10:24] <jenda> You should really do something about that RL thing, dude.
[10:28] <Seveas> I am doing more about the IRC thing
[10:28] <Seveas> see mailinglist later today
[10:35] <mneptok> that sounds ominous
[10:38] <GazzaK> get irc on your mobile, then you will always be about :p
[10:55] <Tm_T> Hmm, I do irc wih my iPaq, and when it runs out battery, I pull out my mobilephone. =)
[11:02] <Seveas> hmm
[11:02] <Seveas> chanserv broken again?
[11:02] <Seveas> no
[11:03] <Seveas> see mailinglist :)
[11:12] <jenda> Congrats, Hobbsee, Ljl :)
[11:12] <jenda> and Seveas and nalioth, of course.
[11:13] <jenda> Seveas: o.O Stepping down? No! That can't be!  I thought the world was going to end!
[11:22] <mneptok> Seveas: does this mean you'll have more cuddle-time for me?
[11:25] <GazzaK> eeek
[11:26] <GazzaK> I step away for a bit to do work, and get pinged
[11:27] <Seveas> mneptok, only when I'm in canada
[11:28] <Seeker`> Seveas: Where are you from?
[11:28] <GazzaK> awww, cuddles
[11:31] <Seeker`> Seveas: Will you still be reponsible for the bots?
[11:31] <Seveas> yes
[11:32] <Seeker`> cool
[11:41] <Seveas> mneptok, bury it
[11:45] <mneptok> "if you're queit and listen carefully, you can hear the technically illiterate marketing monkeys in the undergrowth ..."
[12:25] <jenda> Seveas: oh, good :) I almost thought that perhaps it would become possible to lart you.
[12:25] <Seveas> hahahahaha
[12:28] <SportChick> jenda: drag him into ##essy & lart at will :D
[12:35] <Seveas> hi Hobbsee
[12:35] <Seveas> Hobbsee, /topic
[12:35] <Seveas> congrats :)
[12:35] <Hobbsee> Seveas: yeah, saw :)  thanks
[12:36] <Seveas> some people voted in private so I'm not disclosing that
[12:36] <Seveas> you'll just have to trust me
[12:36] <SportChick> ahhh congrats to all of you - Hobbsee, LjL, nalioth & Seveas
[12:36] <Seveas> SportChick, /me and nalioth already were on the council :p
[12:37] <Hobbsee> Seveas: was meaning in terms of "how big the range was" - ie, if there were clear winners or whatever
[12:37] <SportChick> Seveas: yes but you were re-elected? or just a longer term?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> wasnt suggesting disclosing who voted what
[12:37] <Seveas> SportChick, only 2 additional members were chosen
[12:37] <Seveas> Hobbsee, ah ok
[12:37] <Seveas> 5-4-3-1 hobbsee-ljl-elkbuntu-rob
[12:38] <SportChick> Seveas: ah well congratulations on not being impeached :D
[12:40] <GazzaK> i'm always scared of Hobbsee
[12:41] <SportChick> awwwww
[12:41] <elkbuntu> oh, so he *is* alive
[12:41] <Hobbsee> Seveas: interesting.  @ the ML
[12:42] <tsmithe> insulted her???
[12:42] <tsmithe> *apologises
[12:42] <SportChick> hrmph
[12:42] <tsmithe> didn't mean it to sound at all insulting, sorry
[12:42] <SportChick> "another pointless channel"?
[12:42] <tsmithe> oh
[12:42] <Seveas> kill him!!!
[12:42] <tsmithe> jenda lifted my channel limit
[12:43] <tsmithe> on the condition that i don't join loads of just chat channels
[12:44] <Seeker`> tsmithe: Claim that the chat ones are the ones that would be inside the limit, and the ones outside the limit are the useful ones. :P
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Seveas: how soon are you planning on stepping down?
[12:44] <tsmithe> Seeker`, hehe ok :)
[12:44] <Seveas> Hobbsee, when the council is blessed with being acked by the CC and the other members are comfortabl with it
[12:44] <Seveas> 'it' being 'me leaving'
[12:45] <Hobbsee> Seveas: other members as in other ops, or other IRC council members?
[12:45] <Seveas> the latter
[12:45] <Hobbsee> gotcha
 @lart 37 me
[12:46] <Seveas> * Ubugtu shows xipietotec a photo of mneptok
 xipietotec, masochist :p
[12:46] <apokryphos> Seveas: stepping down? :O
[12:46] <apokryphos> how come?
[12:47] <Seveas> apokryphos, availability issues
[12:47] <apokryphos> by the way, I oppose any decision to reinstate somerville32
[12:47] <Seveas> as in: I'm verrrrrrryyyyyyy busy
[12:47] <apokryphos> I see
[12:47] <SportChick> good morning apokryphos
[12:47] <apokryphos> hi SportChick 8)
[12:47] <Seveas> apokryphos, please reply on the mailinglist :)
[12:48] <SportChick> apokryphos: just superglue Seveas to the channel...it works for me ;)
[12:50] <apokryphos> really? We all know how popular he is ;-)
[12:50] <Seveas> Hobbsee, lol@mailing list reply :)
[12:50] <Hobbsee> Seveas: *grin*
[12:51] <apokryphos> 1 vote difference!
[12:51] <apokryphos> close stuff 8)
[12:53] <pleia2> Hobbsee: congrats :)
[12:53] <jenda> tsmithe: I did not :)
[12:53] <SportChick> jenda: hehe you get blamed for everything!
[12:53] <tsmithe> or me interpreting it as so...
[12:53] <Hobbsee> pleia2: thanks!
[12:54] <tsmithe> i didn't (mean to) insult you, SportChick! :(
[12:54] <Hobbsee> no.
[12:54] <SportChick> tsmithe: suurreeeeeee
[12:54] <SportChick> @lart 28 tsmithe
[12:54] <tsmithe> phew. . . that's ok then :)
[12:55] <jenda> SportChick: hehe
[12:55] <Seveas> @lart 37 jenda
[12:56] <SportChick> tsmithe: ask anyone...I'm not the forgiving type ;D
[12:56] <jenda> aaaaaaaaah!
[12:56] <jenda> tsmithe: no, she isn't.
[12:56] <tsmithe> jenda, did i ask you?
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsmithe, you were going to
[12:56] <tsmithe> :P
[12:56] <tsmithe> Kamping_Kaiser, i was ;)
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:56] <jenda> tsmithe: see?
[12:57] <jenda> it's just the lag :-D
[12:57] <tsmithe> jenda, being psychic is not allowed
[12:57] <SportChick> jenda: hrmph!
[12:57] <tsmithe> i hadn't even finished typing it :P
[12:57] <Seveas> @lart 3 tsmithe
[12:58] <tsmithe> *hides*
[12:58] <Seveas> tsmithe misses and falls on the floor
[12:58] <tsmithe> Seveas, you're all psychic! omgz :P
[12:58] <Seveas> tsmithe, of course
[12:58] <elkbuntu> mmmmm raspberry timtams
[12:58] <tsmithe> Seveas, mrgh... not allowed
[12:59] <Hobbsee> ewww!
[12:59] <Seveas> HAHA
[12:59] <Seveas> cooties!
[12:59] <Hobbsee> yup.  SeveasCOOTIES!
[12:59] <elkbuntu> dear oh dear
[01:00] <elkbuntu> tsmithe, <othergender> germs
[01:00] <tsmithe> elkbuntu, aha. danke
[01:00] <tsmithe> @lart 28 jenda
[01:00] <Seveas> @t
[01:00] <mneptok> or before you lose bladder control.
[01:00] <Seveas> meh
[01:00] <jenda> :-D
[01:00] <elkbuntu> i swear, i am surrounded by morons
[01:01] <Seveas> elkbuntu, *newsflash*
[01:01] <tsmithe> !ohmy | elkbuntu
[01:01] <ubotu> elkbuntu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, you'd be wrong
[01:01] <tsmithe> she swore!
[01:01] <jenda> elkbuntu: no problem, you can always come to us if they get too annoying...
[01:01] <Seveas> SportChick, I eat jendas for breakfast
[01:01] <elkbuntu> jenda, rofl
[01:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> tsmithe, no, she classified you "P
[01:01] <tsmithe> Kamping_Kaiser, :'(
[01:01] <SportChick> Seveas: in court?!
[01:02] <mneptok> Seveas: does the jewelery hurt when you pass it?
[01:02] <jenda> Kamping_Kaiser: proof: <elkbuntu> i swear
[01:02] <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, the term 'i swear'
[01:02] <Seveas> mneptok, it tickles
[01:02] <jenda> mneptok: I don't wear any jewelery...
[01:02] <mneptok> Seveas: kinky. and strangely compelling ...
[01:02] <Seveas> SportChick, sure, why not
[01:02] <jenda> Seveas: you aren't allowed to eat in court, usually...
[01:02] <elkbuntu> yes, lurkers. these are the people who run these channels. isnt it wonderful :
[01:03] <jenda> ...much less eat the plaintiff.
[01:03] <tsmithe> Seveas is a special exception
[01:03] <tsmithe> (emphasis on special)
[01:03] <mneptok> jenda: wait until you're admitted to the bar in Guinea-Bissau.
[01:03] <SportChick> or the plaintiff's representative
[01:04] <elkbuntu> well he's definately an exception to the norm
[01:04] <jenda> An exception in the exceptions..
[01:04] <jenda> ...making him, well, routine, unlike the other exceptions
[01:04] <jenda> Hobbsee: wow, do those come supplied with Council membership?
[01:04] <jenda> mneptok: o.O
[01:05] <mneptok> elkbuntu: finite. "from the finite" (i.e. "that wich is known") = de finite
[01:05] <SportChick> @lart 62 seveas
[01:05] <mneptok> definitely ;)
[01:05] <elkbuntu> heh
[01:05] <SportChick> awwww...no 62?! :(
[01:05] <Hobbsee> jenda: not usually
[01:05] <elkbuntu> @lart 42 SportChick
[01:05] <elkbuntu> what?
[01:05] <tsmithe> :P
[01:05] <jenda> Hobbsee: oh, so they swapped it for your pointy thing,...
[01:05] <SportChick> @lart Seveas
[01:05] <tsmithe> hehe
[01:06] <Hobbsee> jenda: no.  my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  is still very much alive
[01:06] <jenda> Who is Francis G?
[01:06] <Seveas> apokryphos
[01:06] <jenda> oh
[01:06] <jenda> thx
[01:06] <jenda> just noticed the sig
[01:06] <mneptok> regurg++
[01:06] <elkbuntu> @lart 37 mneptok
[01:06] <jenda> rofl
[01:06] <elkbuntu> @lart 38 Hobbsee
[01:06] <elkbuntu> ok...
[01:06] <Hobbsee> @lart 28 elkbuntu
[01:07] <mneptok> 07:06 <@mneptok> regurg, the squirrels
[01:07] <mneptok> 07:06 < regurg> the squirrels are coming.
[01:07] <mneptok> the squirrels
[01:07] <elkbuntu> ok... we need 4 more larts
[01:07] <mneptok> are coming.
[01:07] <mneptok> in fact, you shall not be saved.
[01:07] <jenda> mneptok: well, how should I put it...
[01:07] <Seveas> mneptok, make sure they clean up after themselves...
[01:08] <mneptok> Seveas: like you'd notice nuts in this channel?
[01:08] <jenda> o.O
[01:08] <Seveas> mneptok, it's full of nuts
[01:08] <Seveas> look around you
[01:08] <mneptok> jenda: one of yours seems undescended ....
[01:08] <jenda> now that's a good pun... but kinda loses it's funniness by being said by mneptok
[01:09] <Seveas> elkbuntu, I did and I'm not sure mneptok understood :p
[01:09] <elkbuntu> Seveas, ;)
[01:09] <Seveas> elkbuntu, tissue?
[01:09] <mneptok> elkbuntu: see my comment
[01:09] <elkbuntu> mneptok, your comment doesnt give any indication that you 'got it'
[01:10] <mneptok> o yo of little faith ....
[01:10] <mneptok> *ye
[01:10] <jenda> hmm...
[01:12] <jenda> I never had the impression mneptok's comments gave any indications of anything, really...
[01:13] <elkbuntu> jenda, besides his lack of sanity
[01:14] <mneptok> 1). i possess an input device
[01:14] <mneptok> 2). i have an internet connection
[01:14] <jenda> thanks, mneptok, prime examples... ;)
[01:14] <mneptok> 3). i have the .453 brain cell requisite to connect to IRC
[01:15] <elkbuntu> tsmithe, he's listing the things all his comments indicate
[01:15] <tsmithe> ah
[01:15] <Seveas> @rot13 Vs lbh nfxrq Oehpr Fpuarvre gb qrpelcg guvf, ur'q pehfu lbhe fxhyy jvgu uvf ynhtu.
[01:15] <Ubugtu> If you asked Bruce Schneier to decrypt this, he'd crush your skull with his laugh.
[01:15] <tsmithe> only got to 3 before he had to stop i see
[01:15] <gnomefreak> congrats Hobbsee
[01:15] <Hobbsee> thanks gnomefreak :)
[01:15] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:16] <mneptok> tsmithe: please bring your other .547 brain cell next time ;)
[01:17] <mneptok> tsmithe: as long as it's not an integer you're ahead of the game in #ubuntu ;)
[01:17] <tsmithe> haha ok
[01:18] <elkbuntu> !seen somerville32
[01:18] <elkbuntu> ... hmm.. which bot had that feature?
[01:19] <Seveas> SeenServ
[01:20] <jenda> elkbuntu: /msg seenserv seen somerville32
[01:21] <elkbuntu> jenda, /ns info <nick> works too
[01:21] <jenda> right :)
[01:27] <Seveas> !#
[01:27] <Seveas> #!$
[01:28] <Seveas> ubotu, lousy bot, tell me about vlc
[01:28] <jenda> Seveas: I want that to work..
 (In the future, please use a private message to investigate) Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:28] <Seveas> it works :)
[01:28] <jenda> wow :)
[01:29] <jenda> ubotu, useless piece of ... well... piece of Seveas' creation, tell me about Seveas
[01:29] <jenda> O.o
[01:29] <jenda>
[01:29] <Hobbsee> Seveas: creates useless pieces of...
[01:29] <Seveas> junk
[01:30] <elkbuntu> snake poop?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> congrats LjL
[02:23] <Hobbsee> congrats LjL!
[02:23] <Jucato> LjL: congrats
[02:23] <SportChick> congrats LjL :)
[02:24] <LjL> thanks :) congrats hobbsee too
[02:24] <SportChick> @lart tsmithe
[02:24] <LjL> how was the meeting?
[02:25] <LjL> well, i was thinking i might use a speech synth to play the meeting to my subconscious while i sleeped
[02:25] <LjL> but in the end i decided against it :P
[02:25] <Seveas> there was no meeting
[02:25] <Seveas> see ML
[02:26] <Hobbsee> LjL: non existant :P
[02:26] <LjL> Seveas, i've seen that, but for all i knew it could have been done anyway
[02:27] <gnomefreak> i thought Seveas missed it but it still happened
[02:28] <jenda> Who the hell is https://launchpad.net/~matthew-flaschen and why did he sign my GPG key?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:30] <jenda> A wikipedia admin? o.O O.o O.O
[02:34] <mneptok> jenda: he's young. he'll get jaded.
[02:34] <jenda> hehe
[02:34] <jenda> mneptok: he isn't here - so his jading will be a lot slower...
[02:34] <mneptok> he's a volunteer *Wikipedia admin*
[02:35] <jenda> hehe
[02:35] <mneptok> the 'net will break him soon enouch.
[02:35] <mneptok> s/c/g/
[02:51] <jenda> Any reason for this?
[02:51] <jenda> http://pgp.cs.uu.nl/mk_path.cgi?STAT=519D056A&STATS=statistics
[02:52] <jenda> My key's been signed by Ondrej Sury, who has a few sigs, like TF Heen...
[02:58] <Bayu> hai
[02:58] <jenda> hey
[03:46] <Mez> it's been too long since I last wore my suit
[03:46] <Seeker`> Mez: does it no longer fit?
[03:46] <Mez> it fits
[03:46] <Mez> and i look goood
[03:46] <Mez> but i should wear it more often
[03:47] <LjL> joeljkp: hi. sorry, but Tor clients are banned from #ubuntu, you should use a direct connection instead i'm afraid
[03:49] <Mez> or tor-gpg
[03:49] <joeljkp> LjL: aren't there two Tor connections, one for anonymous users and one registered with Freenode?
[03:49] <Seveas> Mez, he's using tor-gpg
[03:51] <joeljkp> why ban gpg-tor users?
[03:51] <joeljkp> we've registered more rigorously than anyone else
[03:52] <Seveas> that was a mistake
[03:52] <joeljkp> oh, ok
[03:52] <joeljkp> so can i join #ubuntu now?
[03:52] <LjL> joeljkp: you can join now
[03:52] <Seveas> yup
[03:52] <joeljkp> thanks guys
[04:34] <ubotu> In ubotu, Pici said: is a bot is <alias> ubotu
[04:36] <Seveas> %say pici I know I'm a bot!
[04:36] <ubotu> pici I know I'm a bot!
[04:37] <Seveas> narf
[04:37] <Seveas> %say
[04:37] <ubotu> (say <channel> <text>) -- Sends <text> to <channel>.
[04:37] <Seveas> darn
[04:38] <LjL> %say #ubuntu-bots test
[04:43] <Seveas> you need privs for that :p
[04:44] <LjL> yeah, i was just making sure that i still did - you forgot to set that at some times :P
[04:54] <Seveas> @unload Anonymous
[04:54] <Seveas> %unload Anonymous
[04:54] <ubotu> OK
[04:54] <Seveas> those plugins are obnoxious anyway
[06:16] <ubotu> In ubotu, montca48 said: what is a bot
[06:27] <Tm_T> PriceChild: :O
[06:34] <tsmithe> @lart jenda cos his internetz aren't fixed yet
[06:37] <PriceChild> @lart tsmithe because he doesn't know how to use larts
[06:37] <tsmithe> you don't either!
[06:37] <PriceChild> Oh the irony
[06:37] <tsmithe> @lart PriceChild for being ridiculous
[06:37] <tsmithe> there ya go ;)
[06:49] <SportChick> @hug PriceChild
[06:50] <SportChick> hrmph
[06:50] <PriceChild> aww :)
[06:50] <PriceChild> :)
[06:51] <PriceChild> "knows"?
[06:53] <PriceChild> jenda's kote?
[06:53] <Mez> SportChick, you on duty?
[06:53] <SportChick> mez: yep
[06:54] <Mez> SportChick, can you do cloaks?
[06:55] <PriceChild> it'll cost ya
[06:55] <Mez> PriceChild, :P
[06:55] <SportChick> Mez: depends :)
[06:56] <Mez> SportChick, on what ?
[06:56] <SportChick> what kind of cloaks - if not affiliated, then the request has to come from the GC
[06:57] <Mez> SportChick, I am GC for the cloak I'll be requesting
[06:57] <SportChick> Mez: go to pm?
[07:01] <jenda> o.O
[07:01] <jenda> O.o
[07:04] <Seveas> good news
[07:04] <Seveas> you no longer need passwords for ubugtu
[07:04] <Seveas> OR ubotu
[07:04] <Seveas> %load LpLogin
[07:04] <ubotu> OK
[07:04] <Seveas> %reconnect
[07:05] <Seveas> ok, he has no reconnect
[07:05] <Seveas> %list Owner
[07:05] <ubotu> defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep
[07:05] <Seveas> %list Admin
[07:05] <ubotu> capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
[07:05] <Seveas> %quit
[07:05] <jenda> cool
[07:05] <jenda> !pity Seveas
[07:05] <nixternal> %comeback
[07:05] <jenda> @pity Seveas
[07:05] <jenda> cool :)
[07:06] <jenda> thanks Ubugtu.
[07:06] <nixternal> haha
[07:06] <jenda> Ubugtu is smart.
[07:06] <jenda> Give a man a fish, feed him for a day - Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime...
[07:07] <PriceChild> give a man a photo of mneptok...
[07:09] <jenda> o.O
[07:14] <jenda> ooh :)
[07:15] <Seveas> %config plugins.LpLogin.UserList /home/dennis/ubugtu/conf/ubuntuops.conf
[07:16] <Seveas> %login
[07:16] <Seveas> %config plugins.LpLogin.UserList /home/dennis/ubugtu/conf/ubuntuops.conf
[07:16] <ubotu> OK
[07:16] <Seveas> @config plugins.LpLogin.UserList /home/dennis/ubugtu/conf/ubuntuops.conf
[07:54] <Seveas> last bot restart
[07:54] <Seveas> I promise :)
[07:54] <PriceChild> It'd better be...
[07:55] <Seveas> PriceChild, heh
[07:55] <PriceChild> So does everyone on the ubuntu-irc team now identified and have editors access?
[07:55] <PriceChild> s/does/is/
[07:56] <Seveas> identified: when using @login without passwor
[07:56] <Seveas> editor access: if granted
[07:56] <Seveas> for some people the editor access may have been accidently removed
[07:56] <Seveas> %editors
[07:56] <Seveas> (ok, bot is laggy :))
[07:56] <PriceChild> hehe yeh :)
[07:57] <ubotu> Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, thoreauputic, Hobbsee, bimberi, nalioth, Madpilot, LjL, Riddell, imbrandon, uniq, spec, LaserJock, mez, Jucato, trappist, Hawkwind, abattoir, zorglu_, tonyyarusso, elkbuntu, ompaul, PriceChild
[07:57] <Seveas> therewe go
[07:58] <nalioth> yes, i'm awake  :P
[08:07] <Seveas> !tor | hoora_214
[08:07] <ubotu> hoora_214: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[08:07] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.   In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (edgy), package size 748 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[08:39] <Seveas> %unload Encyclopedia
[08:39] <Seveas> %login
[08:39] <Seveas> %unload Encyclopedia
[08:40] <Seveas> %unload RSS
[08:46] <Seveas> I've made both bots part a few channels to reduce load
[08:46] <Seveas> but it's getting quite ridiculous
[08:46] <Seeker`> Seveas: Problems with the bot?
[08:47] <Seveas> Seeker`, suoybot is quite crappy
[08:47] <Seveas> supybot even
[08:48] <Seeker`> doesn't it cope with load well?
[08:48] <Seveas> no, it generates too much server load
[08:48] <Seveas> around 10% when idle
[08:49] <Seeker`> ah, thats bad
[08:49] <ompaul> Seveas, any way to put it in something evil like a jail for resouces ?
[08:49] <Seveas> ompaul, hmm, good call
[08:49] <ompaul> Seveas, now I am not saying this "selinux" I did not say that
[08:50] <Seveas> I'll re-nice them
[08:50] <Seveas> !language | ompaul
[08:50] <ubotu> ompaul: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:50] <ompaul> if anyone says it I'll ban them :P
[08:51] <Seveas> !mp3
[08:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:51] <Seeker`> Seveas: Is it all the time? or just when the bot has been up for a wihle?
[08:51] <Seveas> Seeker`, pretty much all the time
[08:51] <Seveas> they also use ridiculous amounts of memory
[08:51] <Seeker`> :S
[08:52] <Seeker`> heh, my eggdrop is using 0% of CPU and aobut 900k of memory
[08:52] <Seeker`> but it is only in 1 channel
[08:52] <Seveas> probably not #ubuntu
[08:52] <Seeker`> no, not ubuntu
[08:52] <Seveas> #ubuntu is pushing the limits of lots of things
[08:53] <nalioth> yes #ubuntu is pushing the limits of lots of things
[08:53] <ompaul> Seveas, so maybe it parses a line of text even if it does not start with ! or @ and if it uses an @ in there it should not
[08:54] <Seveas> Seeker`, try it :)
[08:54] <Seveas> ompaul, it definitely does that
[08:54] <Seveas> but that's required
[08:54] <Seeker`> ompaul: It has to parse the line to know if it starts with ! or @
[08:54] <Seveas> ;kjf waf a;f a.rgn a;i falef awrfakh bug 1 d;findo[s
[08:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[08:54] <Seveas> :)
[08:54] <ompaul> Seveas, ahh
[08:55] <Seeker`> Seveas: Memory useage: 1.3MiB
[08:55] <Seeker`> Processor useage: 0%
[08:55] <Seeker`> and thats running on a 1.6GHz centrino laptop
[08:56] <ompaul> Seeker`, leave it there for a bit
[08:56] <ompaul> but if it gets abused kill it quickly and if your walking away kill it
[08:56] <Seeker`> ompaul: Yeah, i have a terminal winodw looking at its output
[08:56] <ompaul> I have to go away, I will be gone some time :)
[09:00] <Seeker`> Right, thats almost 10 mins its been running, still on 1.3MiB memory and 0% processor
[09:03] <nalioth> LjL: where is ubotwo?
[09:04] <LjL> nalioth: i'm having some network problems, it probably got disconnected
[09:04] <LjL> the process itself is running
[09:06] <LjL> actually, i should reboot the server before these nifty wild-forking processes lock SSH
[09:09] <Seeker`> Seveas: You dont like eggdrop, do you?
[09:10] <Seveas> correct
[09:12] <Seeker`> Seveas: Any particular reason?
[09:12] <Seveas> it sucks :)
[09:13] <Seveas> granted, supybot sucks as well
[09:13] <Seeker`> Seveas: What part of it sucks?
[09:13] <LjL-Temp> ah, i got the right DHCP lease this time. hopefully i can stay online...
[09:19] <somerville32> LjL: Ping
[09:20] <LjL> pong
[09:42] <tsmithe> jenda: ping?
[09:44] <tsmithe> Seveas: ping?
[09:45] <Seveas> tsmithe, ?
[09:45] <tsmithe> my cloak seems to have run off
[09:45] <PriceChild> Haha
[09:45] <Seveas> --> tsmithe (n=root@unaffiliated/tsmithe) has joined #ubuntu-ops
[09:45] <Seveas> --> tsmithe`<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-ops
[09:45] <Seveas> there's 2 of you
[09:45] <tsmithe> Seveas: that's my proxy
[09:45] <Seveas> one is not identified I guess
[09:45] <nalioth> tsmithe: cloning?
[09:46] <tsmithe> i mean me doesn't have a cloak
[09:46] <PriceChild> But he hasn't got his ubuntu member cloak
[09:46] <tsmithe> that's what i mean
[09:46] <Seveas> tsmithe has a cloak, tsmithe` has no cloak
[09:46] <PriceChild> its back to unaffiliated
[09:46] <nalioth> and running as root?
[09:46] <Seveas> ah, right
[09:46] <tsmithe> see killed the proxy ;)
[09:46] <Seveas> that may have been caused by that services breakage
[09:46] <nalioth> you've probably been haX0rd
[09:46] <tsmithe> nalioth: haha
[09:46] <tsmithe> Seveas: right ho
[09:46] <tsmithe> sevices breakage?
[09:46] <PriceChild> Oh yeah...
[09:46] <tsmithe> that's not allowed to happed :P
[09:46] <PriceChild> database rollback on ns and cs?
[09:46] <Seveas> jenda, could you check whether the cloaks you set before are still working
[09:47] <nalioth> i took services out to dinner and it got drunk
[09:47] <Seveas> PriceChild, yeah
[09:47] <PriceChild> 4 hours was lost wasn't it.
[09:47] <LjL> yeah PriceChild, for 4 hours
[09:47] <PriceChild> beat you LjL ;)
[09:47] <tsmithe> woah
[09:47] <tsmithe> hackz0red?
[09:47] <LjL> nah, just the staff checking just how scared of attacks they could make us
[09:47] <tsmithe> mmhmm
[09:54] <tsmithe> it's back!
[09:54] <tsmithe> thanks whoever :D
[09:54] <tsmithe> Seveas, jenda :)
[09:54] <Seveas> it was nalioth
[09:54] <PriceChild> bah :(
[09:54] <Seveas> he's the evil one
[09:55] <tsmithe> nalioth: danke schoen
[09:55] <tsmithe> PriceChild: mwahaha. now i look "weird" again (cos i did not look weird before)
[09:55] <nalioth> tsmithe: bitte schoen  (and please don't run as root, you make kitty scared)
[09:56] <PriceChild> that's just too far nalioth
[09:57] <nalioth> talk to tsmithe, he's the one responsible (had to put the cat somewhere)
[09:57] <PriceChild> :)
[09:59] <tsmithe> nalioth: it's ok - i won't
[10:49] <Seveas> beware of the angry op
[10:49] <GazzaK> whats up Seveas :'(
[10:51] <gnomefreak> anyone speak czech?
[10:52] <Amaranth> @login
[10:52] <Amaranth> %login
[10:52] <Amaranth> err
[10:52] <Amaranth> %whoami
[10:52] <ubotu> Amaranth
[10:53] <Amaranth> Seveas: Can I be added as an editor again?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> arnt you already?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> bot knows you so i would think you can edit
[10:56] <Amaranth> i'm not listed in %editors
[12:00] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, xcript said: ubotu I have seen this page and is notworking
[12:02] <Seveas> bbl, upgrading to feisty
[12:05] <PriceChild> !bot > xcript


[13:32] <cjohnston> newz2000: bug #987288
[13:38] <newz2000> cjohnston: ruh roh
[13:39] <cjohnston> every cycle something breaks
[13:39] <newz2000> cjohnston: it works for me
[13:40] <newz2000> I wonder if it was just a caching error
[13:40] <newz2000> or maybe someone saw it and fixed it
[13:40] <cjohnston> looks fine to me too
[13:40] <cjohnston> i just poked at you cause there was a screenshot
[13:40] <newz2000> no sweat
[13:41] <newz2000> we'll assume someone saw it and I'll mark it as fixed released
[13:41] <cjohnston> heh
[20:20] <htorque> hello everyone! i was wondering if anyone could give bug 873350 a little more love? the dvd contains way more than just the lang packs nowadays.
[20:21] <mhall119> newz2000: ^^
[20:21] <mhall119> who's doing that these days?
[20:21] <newz2000> mhall119: the web-team, lead by Peter
[20:22] <newz2000> mhall119: I'll ping kate
[20:22] <mhall119> thanks newz2000
[20:22] <htorque> thanks a bunch! :-)
[20:22] <newz2000> kate is not here. It's release week, where could she be?
[20:22]  * newz2000 ponders and searches
[21:31] <mhall119> newz2000: hiding?
[21:31] <mhall119> drinking?
[21:31] <mhall119> hiding *and* drinking?
[21:31] <mhall119> now that sounds like a reasonable idea
[21:31] <newz2000> I wonder if she's in London. The last couple she ran the release from there.
[21:32] <newz2000> Pete has the link and I'm sure he and Kate will discuss it.
[21:32] <newz2000> I'm also certain he'll be glad to have one more thing on the todo list for Thursday. ;-)
[21:41] <mhall119> I bet
[21:41] <mhall119> thanks newz2000


[00:28] <zul> tacone: yep
[00:28] <tacone> nothing, I wrote to you on the ml, about the apache thingie.
[00:29] <tacone> I am not anymore sure it wasn't our fault though.
[02:21] <vladdY> can someone help to install ubuntu server with software raid1 please
[02:21] <vladdY> i still couldnt do it, after 6+ hours
[02:22] <wantok> took me a while to figure out too.
[02:23] <vladdY> is there any tutorial/guide, im kinda linux noob too "/
[02:23] <wantok> on help.ubuntu.com is the server guide
[02:24] <vladdY> i looked but there's nothing on Raid1
[02:24] <wantok> different raids use all the same steps
[02:24] <wantok> just you need to seelct raid1 not raid[other] at the right moment
[02:26] <sommer> vladdY: you can try the instructions in the develpment version of the serverguide: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/test/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html
[02:28] <vladdY> sommer: this is very useful link, thanks
[02:29] <sommer> vladdY: cool, if you have any feedback concerning the guide please let me know
[02:33] <jmedina> sommer: did you write the kerberos section?
[02:33] <sommer> jmedina: yeppers
[02:33] <sommer> it's new for intrepid as well
[02:34] <jmedina> sommer: you know how easy is use openldap as a database backend for MIT?
[02:34] <jmedina> I've been working with heimdall and I think it is best documented, and afaik, samba4 works with heimdall
[02:34] <sommer> jmedina: I haven't actually done that yet, but it's on my todo list if there's time
[02:35] <sommer> jmedina: from the quick look I took at it a while back, it doesn't seem too complicated
[02:35]  * jmedina hates time
[02:35] <sommer> jmedina: add the schema file, add the kerberos attributes to the users, configure the kdc to use ldap... boom :)
[02:36] <jmedina> sommer: pretty easy....
[02:36] <jmedina> :P
[02:36] <sommer> well in theory, heh
[02:38] <jmedina> the instructions for heimdal http://www.h5l.org/manual/heimdal-1-2-branch/info/heimdal.html#Using-LDAP-to-store-the-database
[02:38] <jmedina> sommer: any reason to choose mit?
[02:40] <sommer> jmedina: mit is in main... so for the "official" docs we try to stick to packages in main, where possible anyway
[02:40] <sommer> jmedina: I did some testing with heimdal, it is slightly simpler to setup and configure
[02:41] <jmedina> ok
[02:53] <vladdY> sommer: thanks again for that link, it helped a  lot, i think i got it running
[02:53] <vladdY> is there any easier way to test to make sure it works other than unplugging hd from motherboard :)
[03:22] <vladdY> hm, raid1 ubuntu server won't start if i unplug one of the hard drives, computer is stuck in "verifying DMI pool data"
[03:32] <vladdY> hm, i know im probably boring but have to ask
[03:32] <vladdY> how can i Setup so that the other partition(disk) is bootable too using ubuntu server on raid1
[03:33] <sommer> vladdY: are you running hardy?
[03:33] <vladdY> 8.04
[03:33] <vladdY> i honestly dont know which version is that
[03:33] <sommer> vladdY: 8.04 is the latest... this howto may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[03:34] <sommer> vladdY: you can probably start at the "Adding GRUB to 2nd drive" section
[03:35] <sommer> the issue is being worked on for Intrepid, so in the future you won't have to go through the extra steps
[03:37] <vladdY> sommer: thanks again :)
[03:38] <vladdY> so, if I disconnect one hd, it should run from another one, correct or is there something I have to do (restore mbr or....)
[03:39] <sommer> vladdY: I guess, once you've installed grub on the second hard drive and added the script to the initramfs, it should work fine
[03:40] <sommer> vladdY: I've never actually used those instructions, so it's probably a good idea to test things before putting the machine into production
[03:40] <vladdY> sommer: ok, thank you very much for all your help
[03:41] <sommer> vladdY: np
[03:55] <nodoubt> why would ports.conf in etc/apache2 be empty in pico/vi but have data/characters in the file when opened in desktop environment gedit??
[04:06] <michalski> does anyone know where i can find iptables config?
[07:39] <maswan> Do I win a prize for storing ~56k copies of ubuntu-8.04.1-server-amd64.iso in a tape library? :)
[07:39] <maswan> just in case it gets lost, I mean
[08:13] <kraut> moin
[12:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #259363 in apache2 (main) "Need to source envvars before being able to use 'apache2' binary." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259363
[13:14] <trentster> hey all, I have the strangest problem, having extremely poor network performance slowdown when copying to an NFS NAS volume, will get a peak of 20-30MBps then almost no activity for about 40 seconds then another little peak. I have tried putting in an intel pro1000 network card, cable change etc, still same problem. However if I boot off the live cd and try the same thing I get a sustained 55MBps working perfectly....any i
[13:14] <trentster> deas?
[13:17] <thefish> trentster: you boot the client that is copying the data with livecd, or the server? maybe compare nfs client versions and options?
[13:18] <trentster> thefish, the client I booted the livecd on.
[13:19] <trentster> the server is actually a dedicated NAS appliance server
[13:20] <thefish> i guess you mount the nfs dir and then copy? maybe the mount options are a bit different? or the client version?
[13:21] <trentster> naah the mount options are identical
[13:21] <trentster> I think the versions of nfs are the same as well, I will double check..
[13:21] <trentster> I think something else on the machine is interfering with it.
[13:34] <thefish> trentster: what are you using for the copy? just cp?
[13:35] <trentster> thefish, yes
[13:35] <trentster> just cp
[13:36] <thefish> trentster: sorry, not sure - i have seen it where a gui file manager eg nautilus will be really slow, and cp will be fast
[13:36] <thefish> no iptables or anything like that?
[13:37] <trentster> thefish, no iptables
[13:37] <trentster> its a very strange one
[13:38] <thefish> have you seen http://www.unix.com.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/nfs/ch18_01.htm
[13:38] <thefish> maybe some bits in there that could help
[13:39] <thefish> please say what fixes it ;)
[13:41] <trentster> thefish, thanks I will let you know......I am busy getting ready to test via FTP to see if its def NFS related only or a general problem.
[13:41] <thefish> fair enough
[13:43] <trentster> wow, its slow on ftp as well getting 6MBps
[13:43] <trentster> it starts off super fast 50MBPS for 3-4 secs.....then slow....allmost like a buffering problem or something.
[13:46] <ogra> did you check your NIC with mii-diag ? on both setups you test ?
[13:47] <ogra> migh be that one runs in full and the other in half duplex
[13:51] <trentster> thanks for the help guys, gonna reboot and try continue troubleshooting
[14:32] <cxo_> erichammond1, so dist-upgrade = kernel upgrade?
[14:57] <kirkland> zul: do you have time today to sponsor some init script changes?
[14:57] <kirkland> zul: the status action stuff
[14:58] <zul> kirkland: sure
[14:59] <zul> kirkland: just send me the list and I will get to them today sometime
[14:59] <kirkland> zul: okay, will do
[15:01] <thefish> !seen [diablo]
[15:01] <thefish> bugger
[15:32] <nealmcb> Server team meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 30 minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[15:32] <nealmcb> There is still time to propose another item for discussion....
[15:34] <Oliber> will there be tea and coffee?
[15:34]  * Oliber runs away ;)
[15:35] <nealmcb> Oliber: Yes - but it will be distributed tea and coffee - just like our source control :)
[15:35] <ScottK-laptop> The good news is the Ubuntu wiki is so slow if makes bzr feel fast in comparison.
[15:35] <nealmcb> with pockets of milk, cookies, water and other beverages that fit the local culture and timezone
[15:36] <soren> ScottK-laptop: You think? Hm... It feels pretty snappy to me.
[15:37] <ScottK-laptop> Which the wiki or bzr?
[15:37] <soren> I mean the wiki.
[15:37] <ScottK-laptop> I'm editing.
[15:38] <soren> editmoin or web?
[15:38] <ScottK-laptop> Web.
[15:38] <soren> Ah. Wouldn't know about that.
[15:38]  * soren <3 editmoin
[15:39] <ScottK-laptop> Well right now every time I go to the meeting page it wants me to login.
[15:39] <ScottK-laptop> I login and it takes me to the main page.
[15:39] <ScottK-laptop> I go to the meeting page it wants me to login.
[15:39] <ScottK-laptop> Rinse repeat.
[15:39] <soren> Which browser?
[15:39] <ScottK-laptop> So it's faster now.
[15:39] <ScottK-laptop> Konqueror.
[15:40]  * ScottK-laptop tries another one.
[15:41] <ScottK-laptop> Works in Firefox.
[16:13] <zul> nijaba: mirror?
[16:13] <kirkland> nijaba: i added the debconf entry to mdadm, at "medium" priority.  this will not popup during the installer, and will set the default to "no"
[16:14] <kirkland> nijaba: it would be trivial to raise the priority to make it popup the question, however, that might need more of a consensus
[16:14] <kirkland> nijaba: i would be very much in favor of that
[16:14] <kirkland> nijaba: but i left that part of the patch for later, so as not to embargo the rest of the functionality
[16:15] <nijaba> kirkland: my question was more whether the default Raid1 install would duplicate /boot on both disk now
[16:16] <kirkland> nijaba: oh, the MBR ... yes, it should
[16:16] <nijaba> kirkland: great
[16:16] <kirkland> nijaba: the code is there, but it hasn't made it into an ISO yet, so I haven't tested it
[16:16] <kirkland> nijaba: I tested it "by hand", but not "by ISO"  :-)
[16:16] <nijaba> kirkland: let me know when it is there, I'll give it a go as well
[16:16] <ScottK-laptop> arakthor: Let me get you some links.
[16:16] <arakthor> ScottK-laptop, ok
[16:18] <ScottK-laptop> arakthor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamavSpamassassinInMain is the basic spec that lists the MIR that need to be done.
[16:19] <arakthor> what is a MIR?
[16:19] <soren> MainInclusionReport
[16:19] <ScottK-laptop> Main Inclusion Report.
[16:19] <ScottK-laptop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess describes the process.
[16:19] <leonel> ScottK-laptop: as I've told you some time ago I'd like to  do the  clamav MIR   is there a deadline time  to do so ??
[16:19] <ScottK-laptop> This is how we get stuff 'promoted' to be supported.
[16:20] <ScottK-laptop> leonel: We need it approved prior to Aug 29.
[16:20] <ScottK-laptop> This would be a good time to work on them.
[16:20] <ScottK-laptop> arakthor: Were you interested in Spamassassin too or just Clamav?
[16:20] <leonel> wow 10 days
[16:20] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.
[16:20]  * ScottK-laptop notes he's been asking for help for weeks.
[16:20] <arakthor> ehm, either or. I'm more interested in lending a hand and seeing how it goes
[16:21] <ScottK-laptop> arakthor: OK.  The Spamassassin ones are almost all Perl modules.  They tend to be relatively easy.
[16:21] <ScottK-laptop> And leonel is going to work on clamav anyway.
[16:21] <arakthor> alright
[16:21] <ScottK-laptop> arakthor and leonel: Please mark in the wiki what you are working on so there is no duplication of effort.
[16:22] <arakthor> ScottK, alright. I will probably use another handle, kstewart, because I have it registered on launchpad ettc.
[16:22] <ScottK-laptop> OK.
[16:22] <leonel> ScottK-laptop: ok
[16:23] <ScottK-laptop> I need to leave in about 5 minutes, so if you have questions, please ask them now.  I'll be back in a few hours.
[16:23] <ScottK-laptop> I'm glad to review work in progress or answer questions.
[16:23] <leonel> ScottK-laptop: will you be online tomorrow ?
[16:23] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.  Most of the day.
[16:23] <leonel> ScottK-laptop: ok I'll contact you
[16:24] <arakthor> no questions atm, thanks.
[16:25] <ScottK-laptop> Great.
[17:04] <byte_slave> hi everyone!
[17:04] <byte_slave> anyone here using heirloom.mailx the new "nail" to send emails from command line / cron?
[17:07] <byte_slave> i've a script that executes "nail command" with no problem via commandline but via cron the email just doesn't go to the destiny recipients, and it produces the dead.letter
[17:07] <byte_slave> anyone experienced this before?
[17:08] <jmedina> byte_slave: any cron log?
[17:09] <byte_slave> cron log just says "Aug 19 16:55:01 elsa /USR/SBIN/CRON[4588]: (root) CMD (/root/scripts/est_disk_space_monitor.pl)"
[17:09] <byte_slave> no reference about any error or access denied or whatelse
[17:09] <Fenix|work> Greetings!
[17:09] <byte_slave> hi!
[17:10] <Fenix|work> I have a question I'd like to prose.  I've recently upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy, and my ftp user disappeared from /etc/passwd.  Why would that happen?
[17:10] <Fenix|work> byte_slave, how's it going?
[17:11] <byte_slave> Fenix|work, not that good actually, nail just doesn't work sending email via cron....
[17:12] <Fenix|work> nail? or mail?
[17:13] <Fenix|work> I guess they're both the same thing :)
[17:13] <Fenix|work> google tells me nail is a replacement for mailx
[17:14] <jmedina> byte_slave: and why nail instead clasic mailx?
[17:16] <byte_slave> i heard nice things about nail, and its simple to setup and supports smtp
[17:16] <byte_slave> mail doesn't as far as i know
[17:17] <Fenix|work> byte_slave, what are you trying to accomplish?
[17:17] <byte_slave> well, simple... a perl script goes check disk space and if space lower than x% i receive an email
[17:17] <byte_slave> manually script runs perfectly
[17:17] <byte_slave> via cron not working
[17:18] <byte_slave> cron is running the script as root
[17:18] <byte_slave> should work i guess
[17:20] <Fenix|work> are you using mail in your script?
[17:20] <byte_slave> im using NAIL
[17:20] <jmedina> byte_slave: mail doesnt what?
[17:20] <jmedina> support smtp?
[17:20] <Fenix|work> byte_slave, I understand NAIL will alias mail and mailx when you install for backwards compatability
[17:20] <Fenix|work> compatibility
[17:21] <byte_slave> no alias, NAIL is a very cool comamndline tool
[17:22] <byte_slave> jmedina, i guess not, but anyway i guess to have mail working i should have a "full MTA" working and with "NAIL solution" i found i just use NAIL + msmtp
[17:23] <jmedina> byte_slave: that is not true
[17:23] <jmedina> you can use mailx +ssmtp
[17:23] <jmedina> ssmtp it has support for SMTP AUTH, so you can send mail trough a mail relay host (smarthost)
[17:24] <gsalah> hello all, i have installed pptp vpn server, but vpn-clients use my DNS server to resolve anything instead of their server
[17:24] <byte_slave> maybe i was making confusion about "SMTP AUTH" which is actually what i need
[17:25] <Fenix|work> jmedina, nail is heirloom-mailx in the package tree no?
[17:25]  * Abron_Gru is back (gone 18:01:01)
[17:26] <jmedina> Fenix|work: dont know, last time I used nail was in slackware about 3 years ago
[17:26] <byte_slave> nail is now known as heirloom-mailx, thats true
[17:27] <Fenix|work> used nail with gentoo, but I don't have a preference... I just install mailutils and everything works
[17:27] <Fenix|work> or mail-utils, can't remember which connotation
[17:27] <byte_slave> but mailutils installs exim right?=
[17:27] <Fenix|work> byte_slave, just portions of it... not the full blown exim
[17:28] <byte_slave> i'll try use mailx..... i'll remove nail and see what happens
[17:35] <vladdY> i still cant get Raid1 to run properly, after I unplug one disk I'm unable to boot into ubuntu server
[17:35] <vladdY> i have followed everything from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Troubleshooting
[17:35] <vladdY> any clue
[17:40] <Brazen> vladdY: this has been discussed lately on the mailing list.  Apparently, linux will not boot to a degraded RAID array.
[17:40] <Brazen> your information is safe, but you will have to boot to a live CD and rebuild the array before you can boot back into it.
[17:41] <Brazen> I haven't followed it too close though, as I've only used software raid to protect data drives, and never tried it for the /boot or root partitions.
[17:42] <Brazen> I believe they are trying to get this patched in the kernel before the next Ubuntu release
[17:43] <jmedina> Brazen: he doesnt need to rebuild the raid, only install grub in the mirror disk
[17:43] <jmedina> well and rebuild initramfs
[17:45] <ScottK-laptop> arakthor: I'm here briefly if you've come up with any questions.
[17:45] <Brazen> Wouldn't grub already be installed in the mirrored partition?  Like I said, I didn't follow the issue too closely.
[17:46] <ScottK-laptop> Brazen: You only boot from one, so no.
[17:47] <arakthor> ScottK-laptop, what6's involved in the source code review?
[17:47] <arakthor> ScottK-laptop, also, should I start with a dependency of SA or just the SA package?
[17:47] <ScottK-laptop> arakthor: Review it for sound security practices.  If you aren't up for that, just say no.  It's not a hard requirement.
[17:47] <ScottK-laptop> Do the dependencies first.
[17:48] <arakthor> ok, thanks.
[17:48] <ScottK-laptop> That way when SA gets done the answer to are all the depends in Main will be yes.
[17:55] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #259477 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mailx should not be Recommends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259477
[17:56]  * ScottK-laptop runs to mark that confirmed.
[18:20] <vladdY> do you guys have any reference to that mailing list thread on booting from degraded raid1
[18:21] <vladdY> also, forgot to mention, this is software raid too, running on 2 disks
[18:27] <jmedina> Brazen: did you try those instructions?
[18:27] <jmedina> from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[18:28] <ivoks> hi all
[18:28] <ivoks> zul: ping? :)
[18:30] <sommer> ivoks: yo
[18:30] <ivoks> wazup? :)
[18:31] <sommer> same old, same old... good times, heh
[18:31] <zul> ivoks: yo
[18:31] <ivoks> nice
[18:31] <ivoks> zul: yeah... um... those bacula bugs
[18:31] <ivoks> zul: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16211559/bacula-2.debdiff
[18:31] <zul> ivoks: uploaded that this morning
[18:31] <ivoks> zul: that's a patch for bacula in -proposed
[18:32] <ivoks> in intrepid, right
[18:32] <ivoks> but how about hardy?
[18:33] <zul> and in hardy-proposed
[18:33] <ivoks> that patch solves SRU problems
[18:33] <ivoks> ok
[18:33] <zul> its sitting there waiting to be accepted
[18:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #259479 in php5 (main) "php5 crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_ForcedUnwind()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259479
[19:24] <vladdY> can someone please confirm that solution from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID works
[19:27] <ivoks> let' see
[19:28] <ivoks> vladdY: yes
[19:29] <_jmedina> vladdY: why dont you ask kirkland, I think he wrote the doc and he is working on that theme for intrepid inclusion
[20:11] <vikram> Is there a static version of bash and friends i can use on ubuntu server?
[20:11] <vikram> or at least anything not linked against libselinux
[20:12] <vikram> trying to apt-get remove libselinux looks really scary since it tries to pull everything out
[20:12] <ivoks> why would you remove it?
[20:13] <ivoks> selinux isn't enabled on ubuntu, by default
[20:13] <ivoks> applications are compiled with support for it, if someone decides to enable it
[20:13] <vikram> i know, i just dont want a userspace with libselinux support for it
[20:14] <vikram> is there a version of ubuntu with a clean userspace?
[20:14] <ivoks> then you'll need to recompile... everything :)
[20:14] <ivoks> clean userspace?
[20:14] <ivoks> what's clean?
[20:15] <vikram> just libc and libssl/tls, the basics
[20:16] <ivoks> bash is clean :)
[20:18] <ivoks> you know libc can be compiled with support for lots of things, so having only libc isn't a guaranatee that something is clean, whatever that means
[20:19] <zul> or your could use gentoo ;)
[20:19] <zul> whois vikram
[20:19] <zul> doh..
[20:19] <ivoks> :)
[20:20] <ivoks> i don't think gentoo is clean
[20:20] <ivoks> anyway... take care...
[20:39] <vikram> zul, i is who i is
[20:50] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #259538 in samba (main) "computer reboots during winbind configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259538
[21:00] <AlexC_> hey,
[21:03] <AlexC_> I have my main domain that I use for the server, eg: example.com and with that I have mail.example.com that is used for all email. Other domains, say 'domain.com' are hosted there and all email is sent and received via 'mail.example.com' - though the email addresses are still<EMAIL_ADDRESS>  I'm wondering if I have to set an MX record for the 'domain.com' zone that points to 'mail.example.com'
[21:04] <ScottK> Yes.
[21:04] <AlexC_> I currently don't set this, and it works fine. The reason I use mail.example.com instead of mail.domain.com for all other domains is that I use SSL/TSL for it, and so the certificate only covers mail.example.com
[21:05] <ScottK> In the absence of an MX record, one is supposed to try and deliver to the A.
[21:05] <ScottK> If it's all on the same box it'll work.
[21:05] <AlexC_> ScottK, ok, so before I was basically relying on an undocumented feature/correction thingy, and I should really set the MX record for it?
[21:05] <ScottK> I do not, however, recommend relying on the implicit MX rule.
[21:06] <AlexC_> ok, that's what I thought - I'll make sure I set it now
[21:06] <ScottK> It's documented in RFC 821 and 2821, it's just not something I'd be so certain people get right that I rely on it.
[21:06] <AlexC_> true
[21:06] <_jmedina> AlexC_ it is a good practice to use MX record for every domain, not all the MTA out there know how to act when they can't find a MX record
[21:07] <AlexC_> thanks very much ScottK _jmedina
[21:08] <_jmedina> Alexc_ and your config is ok for SSL/TLS and single IP with multi domains
[21:08] <_jmedina> the same when you use SPF
[21:09] <AlexC_> wont it complain that the cert is for a different domain?
[21:10] <_jmedina> when?
[21:10] <vladdY> just wanted to say that
[21:10] <AlexC_> if I used mail.domain.com instead of mail.example.com
[21:10] <vladdY> oops
[21:10] <AlexC_> since the SSL cert is for mail.example.com
[21:11] <vladdY> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID does work, thank you very much for great work on ubuntu server
[21:11] <vladdY> and for support :)
[21:12] <_jmedina> vladdY: so what was the problem?
[21:13] <vladdY> i dont know, i think i didn't wait 180 seconds :)
[21:13] <vladdY> just did clean reinstall, switched it few times back and forth disconnecting each hd and worked everytime
[21:14] <ScottK> _jmedina: He's right.  Most MUAs will warn for that.
[21:14] <vladdY> i was able to rebuild array and everything worked without any problems, including postgresql
[21:15] <_jmedina> ScottK_ the he needs to setup MUAs with mail.example.com or whatever the cert's CN says
[21:16] <ScottK> Right, so it's less complex if he just uses that for everything.
[23:33] <kirkland> sommer: _jmedina and vladdyy are asking about a RAID document above
[23:33] <kirkland> sommer: it's incorrectly attributed to me...  I didn't write it :-)
[23:34] <kirkland> sommer: though I've written a lot of patches on the matter lately
[23:48] <pschulz01> What is the difference between mailx and mailutils?
[23:49] <pschulz01> (In terms of functionality)
[23:52] <pschulz01> wantok: Morning


[14:26] <acheronuk> bug #1672672
[14:27] <acheronuk> I would like to get that into zesty, so if anyone interested would like to comment/test then please do add to the FFe bug :)