[00:02] <David23400> Hi , when i want to update or install VLC from software center i get a message just after typing my password which is : "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources"    any idea? (i'm on lubuntu)
[00:02] <escott> David23400, sounds like you are using a PPA that you havent imported the key for
[00:03] <David23400> what's PPA escott
[00:03] <escott> !ppa | David23400
[00:03] <SierraAR> Back sorry. Who wanted me to check the smart data?
[00:04] <escott> David23400, if its not a ppa then it may just be an unsigned package in universe
[00:04] <lauratika> hi everyone does any one knows a program to add effects on a video stream lioke changing the background for cheese or other video application?
[00:04] <daftykins> SierraAR: somebody, i understand the situation though. fire up the disk utility
[00:05] <SierraAR> Disk utility is up, I'm in the smart data screen now
[00:05] <daftykins> SierraAR: any errors?
[00:05] <daftykins> or warnings
[00:05] <SierraAR> Two lines are marked as 'Failing'
[00:05] <Kion1> When I try to install Google earth from their page, the software manager says a warning that this package does not comply with the quality ... any ideas?
[00:05] <daftykins> SierraAR: uh-oh, not a reallocated sectors one, by any chance?
[00:05] <_JuJuBee> I am using an HP8600 OfficeJetPro all in one and my scanner just started not working.  xsane does not see the device.  I can still print to it fine.  I am connected via USB (for scanning) and Ethernet (for printing)  CUPS Sees my printer/fax as well.
[00:05] <SierraAR> One is 'Reallocated Sector Count' Normalized: 133; Worst: 133; Threshold: 140; Value: 561 Sectors
[00:06] <daftykins> SierraAR: yeah that drive is toast.
[00:06] <escott> SierraAR, no great surprises. the disk is toast
[00:06] <SierraAR> Lovely.
[00:06]  * daftykins high fives escott for the same word use too XD
[00:06] <SierraAR> Does this normally happen within a few months of installing a Western Digital Blue series HDD or did someone have to have fubar'd this
[00:06] <daftykins> SierraAR: if it's a drive that came with a system, it'll be warranty pursuing time with the system manufacturer
[00:06] <SierraAR> It's not the drive that came with the system
[00:07] <SierraAR> That one died months ago
[00:07] <bobolopolis> SierraAR: if the drive is under warranty, i've never had problems with getting RMA's from WD
[00:07] <escott> David23400, each package is (supposed to be) cryptographically signed to make sure that when you install it that you aren't installing malware
[00:07] <daftykins> SierraAR: some drives can die quite quick. just setup a return on wdc.com , you'll have to register with their 'force' service
[00:07] <SierraAR> And no, it's not the laptop I use :P
[00:07] <escott> SierraAR, you said it was a brand new drive right. so RMA it
[00:07] <daftykins> SierraAR: stop me if you've done RMAs before
[00:07] <SierraAR> Within the past few months, I forget when exactly we bought it. Got it new off Amazon
[00:08] <SierraAR> daftykins, I've never done one before
[00:08] <escott> SierraAR, you clearly have never worked for UPS. if you had you would know that those small hard-drive boxes make the perfect backyard footballs
[00:08] <daftykins> SierraAR: ah ok. well you can do an advanced replacement, where they ship you a new drive first and they hold the $ against your credit card until you send in the dead one.
[00:09] <SierraAR> escott, Oh god, I've heard the horror stories. I'd hoped they were just stories
[00:09] <daftykins> SierraAR: start here: http://support.wdc.com/warranty/index_end.asp?lang=en
[00:10] <daftykins> SierraAR: you could try and go back to where you bought it from, but i'd recommend just going straight to WD
[00:10] <escott> SierraAR, some are some aren't. but the failure rate is very high at the beginning then tails off and then increases again at the end. just because it passes QC doesn't mean its good. it just means its cheaper to ship X many bad units and replace them than to test all units more completely
[00:10] <_Rocky_`> Networking problem. Router is able to ping machines. Machines are not able to ping each other. Machines are laptops connected by wireless. Any ideas would be great. Thank you in advance.
[00:11] <_Rocky_`> I have been banging my head over this. Had nowhere else to go :(
[00:11] <escott> _Rocky_`, are you using anything like radius?
[00:11] <SierraAR> daftykins, Bought it from amazon.com
[00:11] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: some wireless access points / routers have an option to isolate all wireless clients. has it ever worked?
[00:11] <SierraAR> Filling out the registration forms
[00:11] <daftykins> SierraAR: on amazon?
[00:11] <_Rocky_`> No. nothing special. Just a normal ubuntu 12.04 install on one lap and debian squeeze on another.
[00:12] <escott> _Rocky_`, not the laptops the router. is RADIUS enterprise WPA or isolation enabled?
[00:13] <SierraAR> daftykins, Forms on the wdc site you linked
[00:13] <_Rocky_`> daftykins: , escott : Thank you. I looked for AP Isolation on the router. There is no option. Its a basic home network model. There is no RADIUS on the router.
[00:13] <daftykins> ok cool
[00:13] <SierraAR> To create an RMA
[00:13] <escott> _Rocky_`, and what error messages do you get? (you are pinging by ip address correct?)
[00:14] <lauratika> hey
[00:14] <lauratika> hahahaha
[00:15] <daftykins> lauratika: sorry no thoughts about webcam cheese came to mind :P
[00:15] <_Rocky_`> escott: The IP is correct. But get something like <local ip>: Destination host unreachable on both machines
[00:15] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: can you show us the actual output?
[00:15] <_Rocky_`> escott: Also, arp -n shows route to router but the route to the other machine is incomplete.
[00:16] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: and both machines have an appropriate route to the router and aren't getting their via magic? lol
[00:16] <usr13> _Rocky_`: nmap
[00:16] <escott> _Rocky_`, why would arp show a route to the other ip. is it not on the same subnet?
[00:16] <SierraAR> Thanks for the help btw, escott  and daftykins and whoever else said to look at the SMART status
[00:16] <daftykins> SierraAR: np :) good luck with it
[00:16] <lauratika> daftykins: or any fx for video?
[00:18] <_Rocky_`> julian-delphiki: the error "From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable"
[00:18] <_Rocky_`> escott: The are on the same subnet.
[00:18] <SierraAR> Hunting down the invoices for the dates of purchase now xD
[00:18] <daftykins> SierraAR: i had to do that :( used to be so much simpler, now all this drive registration hassle :S
[00:18] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: what is the model of the router
[00:18] <_Rocky_`> usr13: Thank you. will try nmap.
[00:18] <daftykins> lauratika: 'webcamstudio' ?
[00:19] <_Rocky_`> julian-delphiki: Cisco Linksys WAG54G2
[00:20] <lauratika> but streaming video i mean
[00:20] <daftykins> lauratika: what kind?
[00:20] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Cable-and-DSL/WAG320N-LAN-cleints-cannot-ping-WLAN-clients/m-p/398407?comm_cc=HSus&comm_lang=en#M17931
[00:21] <lauratika> cheese, guvcview etc
[00:21] <SierraAR> In the meantime, anybody know of a good tutorial for setting up a functional dual-boot between ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 64 bit? I cant find the tutorial I used last time
[00:22] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: guide says toggle AP isolation on then off again, or vice versa, as we recommended :>
[00:22] <escott> SierraAR, there is nothing different about win7 boot from say winXP
[00:22] <Kion1> SierraAR: Usually just insert a iso cd or usb and it will take you by the hand
[00:22] <julian-delphiki> daftykins: bingo :>
[00:22] <daftykins> julian-delphiki: i figure he missed it the last time, you know how those router web admins can be!
[00:22] <SierraAR> escott, Kion1, I do recall having to do some specific setup stuff for the boot manager to recognize both OS's
[00:23] <julian-delphiki> daftykins: for sure, overly complicated, <3 ddwrt.
[00:23] <blkadder> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[00:23] <_Rocky_`> daftykins: Thank you. But, I dont have an option for AP isolation at all.
[00:23] <SierraAR> Thanks blkadder
[00:23] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: there really should be, given it's a common Linksys model. :S
[00:24] <_Rocky_`> Or linksys has secretly hidden it from me. Its a conspiracy I tell ya.
[00:24] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: Wireless -> Advanced Wireless Settings
[00:24] <Scunizi> If you're in the know with OpenShot and I can ask a question or two of you please join me in #OpenShot_Question
[00:24] <julian-delphiki> Scunizi: thats not how this works, ask your question here
[00:24] <phunyguy> so I am back at this bug, I am trying to automount a user sshfs share, which is a specific folder on a remote SSH server, but no matter what I do, it mounts to sftp://remoteserver/home/username
[00:24] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: does the webadmin look like: http://vanilla.co.za/images/dslhelp/linksys/new/wireless_disabled.gif ?
[00:25] <_Rocky_`> julian-delphiki: Thats where I am looking. I have searched on the internet. Screenshots show AP Isolation. My router doesnt show that option.
[00:25] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: that's freaky. do you have the latest firmware on?
[00:25] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: you may want to look at upgrading the firmware then
[00:25]  * daftykins high-fives julian-delphiki
[00:25] <daftykins> julian-delphiki: i'll stop treading on your toes now :>
[00:25] <escott> phunyguy, sftp://blah blah is a url not a mountpoint
[00:26] <_Rocky_`> daftykins: Most of the UI is same. Its all blue though where its violet in the screenshot.
[00:26] <phunyguy> escott that is the end I am talking about
[00:26] <Scunizi> julian-delphiki: trying my best to keep the ubuntu channel for ubuntu.. but here goes.. Once you've cut a clip several times how do you save the individual cut segments?
[00:26] <phunyguy> it ignores what I tell the remote end to be
[00:26] <escott> phunyguy, is sftp://remoteserver/home/username not the correct url? what would be the correct url?
[00:26] <SierraAR> daftykins, It says 'no limited warranty' on the drive now that it's registered
[00:26] <Soelen> hello everyone, quick question! Watching a unix/linux tutorial right now and he suggested to mount all partitions on /opt, I always thought /mnt is here for, what's the difference?
[00:26] <SierraAR> Not sure what that means
[00:26] <phunyguy> escott, even if I go to sftp://remoteserver/media/storage/users/blah it still bookmarks sftp://remoteserver/home/blah
[00:27] <phunyguy> does the same thing in Gigolo
[00:27] <phunyguy> I'd use Samba, but it is god-awful slow with gvfs
[00:27] <daftykins> SierraAR: hrmm, there's a little tooltip nearby that explains that
[00:27] <julian-delphiki> phunyguy, and what does your fstab look like
[00:27] <_Rocky_`> I think it should be the firmware guys. Thank you very much for your help. Will upgrade the firmware and come back with news. I knew I could trust the ubuntu channel ;)
[00:27] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: good luck!
[00:28] <escott> phunyguy, is /media/storage/users/blah symlinked to /home/blah on the remote
[00:28] <blkadder> Trust us at your own peril!
[00:28] <phunyguy> escott, no.
[00:28] <SierraAR> Bleh, website says I can't file an RMA for the drive because it's not under warranty
[00:28] <phunyguy> julian-delphiki, no fstab, this is gvfs
[00:28] <kvothetech> julian-delphiki: bean from enders shadow?
[00:28] <escott> Soelen, opt would be a strange place. historically there have been two places /mnt and /media. the second for removable the first for non-removable. /opt would not be a reasonable mountpoint
[00:28] <julian-delphiki> phunyguy: oh, i thought you said something about sshfs, so i wasn't sure.
[00:29] <phunyguy> julian-delphiki, I am mounting a share via SSH
[00:29] <julian-delphiki> okay, but thats not sshfs
[00:29] <phunyguy> was probably the wrong word
[00:29] <escott> !hier | Soelen
[00:29] <phunyguy> :)
[00:29] <escott> julian-delphiki, does sshfs use scp directives instead of the sftp module?
[00:29] <daftykins> SierraAR: doh, to amazon then i guess :S sounds like it wasn't a legit drive
[00:29] <Soelen> escott: ubottu: thanks a lot, I guess it's in the nature of solaris then
[00:30] <SierraAR> Whats odd is, looking at the invoices
[00:30] <SierraAR> We bought two drives, exactly the same, from amazon, a few days apart. One was $10 more than the other o.O
[00:30] <escott> SierraAR, even if it is outside of warranty you may still be within your local governments legally mandated period of merchantability and could charge back for a defective product
[00:30] <Soelen> ubottu: thanks for the link buddy, reading it
[00:30] <Scunizi> In openshot, after slicing up a clip, how do you save the edited segments in their own files or put them in the project file box for later use?
[00:30] <SierraAR> escott, This one was purchased Nov 17, 2012. I have no idea what the law here in Ohio is for that
[00:31] <phunyguy> escott, what are your thoughts?
[00:31] <phunyguy> with the SCP and sftp thing
[00:31] <escott> phunyguy, they are different. i dont know what method sshfs uses
[00:31] <phunyguy> ahh, well like I said, was probably the wrong word.  I am going to sftp://url/to/share
[00:31] <daftykins> SierraAR: was it actually amazon or one of their sellers?
[00:31] <phunyguy> in Nautilus
[00:31] <SierraAR> daftykins, amazon.com
[00:31] <escott> phunyguy, yes
[00:32] <phunyguy> and then creating a bookmark from there
[00:32] <daftykins> SierraAR: ah well, just follow their returns procedure i guess. state 'bad sectors' and refuse to accept that's normal because it's never good :D
[00:32] <phunyguy> brb, trying a quick restart to finish updates
[00:34] <modifier> i have added a usb capture card....how do i know its recognized by system and drivers are installed for it ?
[00:34] <escott> SierraAR, in the future always stress test any hardware when you unbox it
[00:34] <phunyguy> back
[00:35] <escott> SierraAR, legally it probably takes you out of any possible RMA issues because you can just point to magnusun moss and ship it back to whereever you bought it from (even if that business is going OUT OF BUSINESS) and then chargeback on the CC
[00:36] <modifier> escott: have added a usb capture card....how do i know its recognized by system and drivers are installed for it ?
[00:36] <escott> SierraAR, but it also saves you from having to deal with getting your data off a failing drive and the risk of shipping confidential data back the manufacturer who might potentially sell the device as a refurb
[00:36] <SierraAR> escott, How do I stress test a drive?
[00:36] <phunyguy> yeah updates didn't cure it.
[00:36] <escott> modifier, you try and use it in an application
[00:37] <escott> !info bonnie++ | SierraAR
[00:37] <escott> SierraAR, also cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdX
[00:37] <julian-delphiki> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[00:37] <modifier> escott: suggest any application for capture card on linux....no app or driver from vendor for linux
[00:38] <escott> modifier, i have no idea. why are you asking me?
[00:39] <modifier> escott: u look most active at this time
[00:39] <modifier> in the channel
[00:39] <julian-delphiki> still, you should address the channel, not specific unrelated people
[00:39] <modifier> anyone
[00:39] <escott> modifier, and if i knew an answer i would have messaged you. i'm not prejudiced against people with nicknames that begin with "m"
[00:39] <julian-delphiki> unfortunately you're probably not going to have much luck unless there is an open source linux driver
[00:40] <SierraAR> escott: Drive isnt in the laptop anymore, it's sitting beside me so I can read off the S/N
[00:40] <escott> SierraAR, well that drive is dead so this is more of an "in the future"
[00:40] <_Rocky_``> modifier: lol
[00:40] <modifier> well if source code is availlable then i will compile it
[00:40] <joe9> I want to run a script on startup on ubuntu 12.04. I read about rc.local. my script has the start, stop, etc, and can belong in /etc/init.d
[00:41] <joe9> Is the recommended way still to run update-rc.d?
[00:41] <escott> SierraAR, since you bought something that was OEM and has no warranty, and are two months into ownership you might have a hard time claiming merchantability
[00:41] <SierraAR> OEM?
[00:41] <phunyguy> is there another type of filesystem besides cifs and sftp that work well from linux server to linux client in a gvfs environment?
[00:41] <julian-delphiki> phunyguy: actual SSHFS?
[00:41] <escott> SierraAR, original equipment manufacturer. ie not sold with the pretty box and usually has a lesser warranty
[00:41] <phunyguy> julian-delphiki, does that work via nautilus/gigolo/gvfs?
[00:42] <phunyguy> It needs to be a per-user thing
[00:42] <phunyguy> I had a script but it got flaky when switching networks, etc.
[00:42] <julian-delphiki> wait, are you wanting to mount home dirs or something?
[00:42] <phunyguy> (vpn, non-vpn)
[00:42] <escott> julian-delphiki, is "actual sshfs" any different from sftp? what is the transport method of sshfs?
[00:43] <julian-delphiki> escott: I'm unsure, I just know its  FUSE file system
[00:43] <phunyguy> julian-delphiki, portions of /home symlinked, like ~/Music, ~/Videos - etc
[00:43] <escott> phunyguy, there is NFS
[00:43] <julian-delphiki> NFS is probably the best option
[00:43] <escott> julian-delphiki, you keep talking about sshfs as if it were NOT using sftp. I would think it probably does use sftp
[00:43] <phunyguy> hmmm....
[00:43] <julian-delphiki> escott: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[00:43] <phunyguy> let me ponder that for a bit
[00:44] <julian-delphiki> escott: actually, it looks like it uses w/e nautilus "ssh" connection uses
[00:44] <phunyguy> nautilus cannot handle nfs locations
[00:44] <escott> julian-delphiki, none of that states what protocol sshfs uses underneath. sftp is ssh
[00:44] <julian-delphiki> aware/
[00:44] <julian-delphiki> i'd say its lower level than doing it in a gui though
[00:45] <escott> julian-delphiki, phunyguy SSHFS is as I suspected sftp
[00:45] <escott> http://www.mcpressonline.com/system-administration/techtip-with-sshfs-remotely-mount-linux-file-systems-across-ssh.html
[00:45] <phunyguy> escott, yes.
[00:46] <phunyguy> escott, I had something similar, what will this get me?
[00:47] <escott> phunyguy, the whole sftp/sshfs confusion has got me confused as to what the question is.
[00:48] <phunyguy> escott, sorry, I am trying to accomplish what gigolo/nautilus/cifs give me with dynamic bookmarks, so when a connection is active, filesystems are mounted, per-user.
[00:48] <MK`> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to remember to set the sound device to my headphones when I plug them in? I need to keep doing it manually.
[00:48] <phunyguy> when using hard-mounts like in fstab, it prohibits my laptop from sleeping, and shutting down in a timely manner
[00:49] <phunyguy> MK`, version?
[00:49] <modifier> any good application for watching tv from capture card on linux....also how do i look that my capture card is recognized by system and drivers are installed for it ? how to look for any ardware connected to system is properly recognized ?
[00:49] <phunyguy> !info mythtv
[00:49] <MK`> phunyguy: 11.10
[00:49] <julian-delphiki> modifier: what is the model of the capture card
[00:49] <modifier> julian-delphiki: chip is TM5600
[00:50] <MAL-_> Hello, I'm having a weird issue with Ubuntu vs on Windows.. in Ubuntu 12.10 with unity if I right click the desktop then right click another location it simply closes the 1st context menu instead of opening the context menu in the second location.. has anyone noticed this too? It's like first right click open context, 2nd right click close context, 3rd open context. Ideally when I right click I'd like to get the context menu each time.
[00:50] <phunyguy> escott, also, the reason I wanted to avoid CIFS, is due to speed.  gvfs/cifs performance is horrid on wifi, and vpn
[00:50] <phunyguy> I can get 8-9MB/s with hard mounted samba shares, but 1.0MB/s with gvfs
[00:50] <modifier> julian-delphiki: also when connecting through usb...the front lid is getting on
[00:50] <phunyguy> escott it doesn't perform well at all.
[00:51] <julian-delphiki> modifier: it looks like many people have not really hard luck with that card
[00:51] <escott> phunyguy, im not sure there is a good solution with all the requirements you have stated
[00:52] <phunyguy> awww...
[00:52] <modifier> julian-delphiki: ohh,....can u find source code for driver ? i will try to compile and see if it works
[00:52] <julian-delphiki> modifier: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Trident_TM6000 is really the only information i can find
[00:52] <phunyguy> well, thanks anyway for your help.  I am hoping performance for cifs gets better, but I don't have my hopes up.  Been trying for years.
[00:52] <julian-delphiki> modifier: "In brief, while we want to fix the driver issues, it is recommend to avoid buying any devices with tm5600/tm6000/tm6010 (and DRX demod) chips."
[00:52] <Robsome> Hi all.
[00:53] <modifier> julian-delphiki: late warnings....now i am stuck with it :(
[00:53] <Robsome> Installing 12.10 as I type
[00:53] <Robsome> Only 2.5 hours remain:P
[00:54] <phunyguy> I have eaten my words, escott.  The updates must have triggered a speed increase with cifs.  Although it isn't 8-9MB/s, it is around 4-5MB/s
[00:54] <phunyguy> I guess it's tolerable.
[00:54] <phunyguy> thanks for your help, escott.
[00:55] <daftykins> MAL-_: that sounds tolerable enough to consider posting somewhere as a recommendation, doubt it's going to have people up in arms
[00:55] <AceFace> hello, all!
[00:56] <AceFace> is there anyone here with experience using KVM?
[00:56] <daftykins> AceFace: just ask away
[00:56] <MAL-_> daftykins, It's an annoyance but it's causing problems when working the channels in Mumble. I'm just wondering if there's any mouse tweak programs I can try or if mouse settings are as is in Ubuntu.
[00:56] <compdoc> AceFace, yeah
[00:56] <AceFace> compdoc: here is my issue: i.imgur.com/2g5bA.png
[00:56] <AceFace> http://i.imgur.com/2g5bA.png
[00:57] <gyre008> why does apt-get upgrade <package_name> upgades kernel I will never get...arrrgh
[00:57] <jrib> gyre008: it doesn't...
[00:57] <compdoc> what are you doing to get that error?
[00:57] <AceFace> i have ran "kvm-ok" and it says i can virtualiz hardware
[00:57] <bootkigftrgds> I got Empathy to load up on my Lubuntu netbook, but when I ask it to load 'an account' it just goes to system setting .. what am I doing wrong ?
[00:57] <AceFace> i am setting up a VM using virt-manager
[00:58] <AceFace> the gui tool
[00:58] <gyre008> well i just ran apt-get upgrade chef and the kernel has been upgraded too...wth
[00:58] <compdoc> does virt manager open?
[00:58] <escott> AceFace, and this message is coming from the guest
[00:58] <jrib> gyre008: that's doubtful
[00:58] <jrib> gyre008: are you sure  you didn't run "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[00:58] <AceFace> yes, infact i can open it and configure the guest VM, but at the last step it gives the error
[00:59] <AceFace> here is my lshw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1532944/
[00:59] <trolol> hello, can someone help me on fully purging fglrx?
[00:59] <gyre008> jrib: 100% positive
[00:59] <escott> AceFace, sounds like the client needs to load a kernel module?
[00:59] <AceFace> my CPU can virtualize hardware and its enabled in the bios
[00:59] <jrib> gyre008: what makes you say your kernel was upgraded?
[00:59] <gyre008> the output in the log ?
[00:59] <compdoc> AceFace, which mainboard?
[00:59] <jrib> gyre008: be more specific
[01:00] <AceFace> compdoc: M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
[01:00] <trolol> [Error]A previous installation of fglrx driver detected to be loaded.
[01:00] <trolol> User must uninstall existing fglrx driver
[01:00] <trolol> or run install with force option.
[01:00] <trolol> Forcing the installation is not recommended.
[01:00] <FloodBot1> trolol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <modifier> julian-delphiki: how to check if the capture card is recognized by system coz front lid is glowing very well......and also suggest any good mini card with wifi & bluettoth 2 in 1 coz i am also watching issues with broadcom 4313 chip which is currently installed into my system and i wanna change it.....suggest one which has fast speed with & over long distance
[01:00] <AceFace> escott: when you say client, you mean the virt-manager GUI?
[01:00] <bootkigftrgds> I got Empathy to load up on my Lubuntu netbook, but when I ask it to load 'an account' it just goes to system setting .. what am I doing wrong ?
[01:00] <trolol> has anyone purged fglrx before?
[01:00] <compdoc> AceFace, did you add yourself to the libvirtd group? Does kvm have permissions to write to the storage?
[01:01] <fishcooker> is there any boot grub editor on ubuntu?
[01:01] <AceFace> yes, i have added myself to the group with sudo adduser <username> libvirtd
[01:01] <AceFace> and i got a success message
[01:01] <compdoc> AceFace, you know about logging out after?
[01:02] <compdoc> just checking...
[01:02] <escott> AceFace, rather the guest
[01:02] <AceFace> kvm write permissions to storage? i dont know, it should as the disk image is in the default location
[01:02] <trolol> #help
[01:02] <AceFace> and yes, i have logged out and logged back in to ensure that i am added to group
[01:02] <trolol> lol
[01:02] <daftykins> AceFace: not sure if this is relevant, but have a read: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-925976-start-0.html
[01:02] <jeffree> would this be the right place to ask about a network driver problem?
[01:02] <daftykins> !ask | jeffree
[01:03] <jrib> gyre008: you could pastebin the output for example
[01:03] <daftykins> AceFace: "Solved running: gpasswd -a qemu kvm" <-- no idea what that does but it's in that thread
[01:03] <trolol> I downloaded fglrx for ati ,,, bad choice.. found the actual one from amd's website but I didn't fully purge fglrx properly.. anyone know how to do so?
[01:04] <modifier> anyone -  how to check if the capture card is recognized by system coz front lid is glowing very well......and also suggest any good mini card with wifi & bluettoth 2 in 1 coz i am also watching issues with broadcom 4313 chip which is currently installed into my system and i wanna change it.....suggest one which has fast speed with & over long distance
[01:04] <AceFace> escott: to answer your question, the guest is a WinXP and it doesnt even get past the last step of "setting up" the VM
[01:04] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:04] <AceFace> so, the VM guest never starts to load
[01:04] <phunyguy> woooo netsplit!
[01:04] <escott> AceFace, and you are getting this message on the host? did you modprobe the kvm modules?
[01:04] <modifier> best virtual machine for linux ? virtual box ?
[01:04] <MAL-_> This here explains my problem perfectly but it's from 2010.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1566380
[01:04] <daftykins> trolol: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[01:04] <gyre008> sure jrib http://pastebin.com/w38V8LD0
[01:05] <MAL-_> modifier, Virtualbox is definitely awesome
[01:05] <AceFace> daftykins: i will try that
[01:05] <modifier> and installing win7 in virtual machine in ubuntu will be good or installing it side by side ubuntu as a complete independent OS ?
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, in your manual, it shows the default is:   Secure Virtual Machine Mode [Disabled]
[01:11] <modifier> MAL-_: ^^
[01:11] <AceFace> escott: this message is on the host, sorry i did not specify
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, nice looking board
[01:11] <AceFace> compdoc: i have edited bios to show it as enabled
[01:11] <AceFace> compdoc: shall i change it back?
[01:11] <BillyZane|2> sure wish i had some sound
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, how did you install kvm?
 thats what I originally did, but it seems that it doesn't work
[01:11] <MAL-_> modifier, I've never tried Windows 7 in Virtualbox but I'm about to try ReactOS to see how well that might work for running windows stuff.
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, no - enabled is right
[01:11] <escott> AceFace, lsmod | grep kvm does that show kvm.ko as loaded
[01:11] <AceFace> compdoc: i installed per instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[01:11] <daftykins> trolol: is the ATI driver claiming it detects something present and won't install, or?
[01:11] <modifier> how to look for all the drivers loaded in system ?
[01:11] <AceFace> escott: is shows kvm_amd 55604 0, kvm 414070 1 kvm_amd
 Error: A previous installation of fglrx driver detected to be loaded.User must uninstall existing fglrx driver or run install with force option. Forcing the installation is not recommended.
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, what does 'groups' command show for your user?
[01:11] <daftykins> trolol: trolol check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/78675/how-do-i-remove-the-fglrx-drivers-after-ive-installed-them-by-hand
[01:11] <compdoc> there are other important groups besides libvrtd
 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare libvirtd
[01:11] <AceFace> daftykins: i tried the gpasswd command with no success, "qemu user does not exist"
[01:11] <modifier> MAL-_: how to look for all the drivers loaded into system ?
[01:11] <MAL-_> modifier, I'm not too sure..
[01:11] <modifier> MAL-_: lsmod ?
 that will not work (ive tried it before) ... however I did find a xf86-video-ati folder on my home directory
[01:13] <MAL-_> modifier, I'm not sure.. I haven't had to play much with drivers on linux
[01:13] <modifier> ok
[01:13] <m0ksha> hi, anyone know anything about MPI? I'm trying to find information on building a cluster.
[01:13] <daftykins> trolol: nothing in home should be relevant. just give up and go for the force install, if none of those package names are present to remove
[01:15] <compdoc> AceFace, what does this show:  libvirtd --version     and this:  kvm --version
 when i run the sh that I downloaded from amd's website.. it will still pop up with that error message and not allow for an option to continue to install...
[01:18] <AceFace> compdoc: sorry, i was afk for a min
[01:18] <daftykins> trolol: that's odd. not sure a manual install is the best idea anyway. here's a crazy idea though - why not *install* fglrx so you definitely can remove it? :D
[01:18] <daftykins> trolol: i have to go anyway, be back soon
[01:18] <AceFace> compdoc: libvirtd (libvirt) 0.9.913
 ok thanks for your help
[01:18] <AceFace> compdoc: kvm shows QEMU v 1.2.0
[01:19] <compdoc> AceFace, oh, this is 12.10?
[01:20] <AceFace> yes
[01:21] <compdoc> does libvirt-bin exist in:  service --status-all
[01:21] <jane_> just installed xubuntu did the updates. what now? i don't think i have java or
[01:21] <AceFace> yes, shows [ ? ] libvirt-bin
[01:22] <julian-delphiki> trolol: btw, you dont need to put people's names in <>'s, and you can tab complete them like, typing tro and hitting tab gets me your name
[01:22] <AceFace> im a linux novice, and i -assume- ive tried to google everything to find a fix, but i have not
[01:22] <AceFace> i may have found a bug?
[01:23] <compdoc> AceFace, well, maybe you should define a filesystem storage area on your own desktop to see if its permissions
[01:23] <hays> are there any new ultrabooks with flawless or near-flawless linux support?
[01:23] <hays> Those Asus look pretty sweet for example
[01:23] <AceFace> i will try that, thank you so much for the help so far!
[01:23] <hays> The Dell Linux Ultrabook unfortunately has a kinda crappy screen
[01:23] <jane_> page link for after installing xubuntu
[01:23] <jane_> ?
[01:25] <compdoc> Aceface, there seems to be a group named 'kvm' shown on that website you posted
[01:25] <android> who
[01:26] <vuln> I installed and configured Compiz in my Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS. Sometimes when I turn on the computer, when I press super, the Unity left bar with some apps shows up. However, sometimes I turn on my computer and it doesnt. Even though I can't view it, I know it's there since tab+enter runs one of the apps that used to appear in the bar
[01:27] <vuln> How can I make it appear once and for all?
[01:27] <dr_willis> sounds like  some buggy video drivers vuln
[01:27] <trolol> julian-delphiki: wait... lol I havn't used IRC in a long time, but my client used to do that to tag a users name
[01:27] <dr_willis> vuln:  whats your video chipset?
[01:32] <savagecroc> hmm right.. why on a default install of ubuntu do other users have permission to ls -al my home directory and  access half the files?
[01:32] <savagecroc> what should the permissions be?
[01:33] <savagecroc> i'm guessing user::rwx  group::r-x other:--- on the directory
[01:33] <hays> this is what i have: drwxr-xr-x
[01:33] <savagecroc> yeah but why should other get access
[01:33] <savagecroc> seems nuts
[01:34] <hays> well they don't have write access
[01:34] <Hilikus> is nvidia still the clear choice for ubuntu?
[01:34] <savagecroc> hays: yeah but they can still ls around
[01:35] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  I find the older nvidia chipsets work best. Avoid  the Dual-GPU optmius stuff for now. its still very much a work in progress
[01:35] <jrib> gyre008: you know by the way that "apt-get upgrade foo" doesn't just upgrade foo and is the same as "apt-get upgrade"?
[01:35] <Orkultus> <-- running optimus right now
[01:36] <gyre008> jrib: mm didnt know that
[01:36] <gyre008> whats the comand to upgrade just sleected package
[01:36] <jrib> gyre008: you can upgrade specific packages by doing "apt-get install foo"
[01:36] <gyre008> just install
[01:36] <gyre008> mmm
[01:36] <Orkultus> gyre2008 if it finds a newer version it upgrades it
[01:36] <gyre008> will try that then! ;)
[01:36] <gyre008> cheers lads
[01:37] <Orkultus> cant wait for optimus to have better support
[01:37] <Orkultus> kind of annoying having to use optirun command
[01:38] <M4dN3ss> LOL
[01:38] <Orkultus> i finally just loaded a terminal with optirun
[01:38] <Orkultus> starting running my games from that
[01:38] <M4dN3ss> this channel is so much funz, yeah?
[01:38] <modifier> any wifi with blutooth 2in1 mini card which has good linux driver to support its performance and fast speed with and over longer range ?
[01:39] <Orkultus> modifier this a laptop?
[01:39] <M4dN3ss> Anyway, if anyone needs anything I'd be happy to help
[01:39] <modifier> yes
[01:39] <dr_willis> modifier:  cant say ive ever seen a wifi+bluetooth both in one dongle
[01:39] <android> alfa wifi
[01:39] <M4dN3ss> modifier: I agree with dr_willis
[01:39] <Orkultus> modifier: oh my laptop has both built in, i think running from Atheros
[01:39] <modifier> Orkultus: hp G6 series model-1200TU with Broadcom 4313 chip
[01:39] <dr_willis> a 'mini' card will be
[01:40] <M4dN3ss> are you sure you have your information correct?
[01:40] <dr_willis> a 'mini' card will be  'anti long range' also
[01:40] <Orkultus> modifier: this is a dongle that you want to get?
[01:40] <modifier> dr_willis: not dongle but wifi module or mini card
[01:40] <Orkultus> i see
[01:40] <modifier> Orkultus: ^^
[01:40] <Orkultus> something like an old school pcmcia card
[01:40] <modifier> noo
[01:41] <dr_willis> I alwyas hit up google and amazon and see what user reviews say about  the specific hardware and ubuntu support
[01:41] <Orkultus> lol
[01:41] <AceFace> compdoc: i found a solution for my KVM problem!
[01:41] <mehwork> i plugged my ubuntu laptop into a plasma tv but i can't see google chrome on it. Any idea why? i can see terminal with irc in it though
[01:41] <compdoc> oh?
[01:41] <Orkultus> mehwork: Nvidia or ATI?
[01:41] <modifier> dr_willis: so what will u suggest ? i wanns replace broadcom 4313 card with a faster one
[01:42] <dr_willis> modifier:  check the various linux hardware review sites.. or check amazin and see what gets good reviews/comments about well supported in Linux/Ubuntu
[01:42] <mehwork> Orkultus: amd radeon hd
[01:42] <Orkultus> modifier i have no problem with the Atheros cards...i had to disable ipv6 cause of frequent drops..but it's good now
[01:42] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I get rid of these https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22806246/Screencaps/scollbar.png and install the ones U10.04 has/had?
[01:43] <Orkultus> mehwork: you using this tv as a second monitor?
[01:43] <coreyb> is anyone familiar with fubuntu?
[01:43] <mehwork> Orkultus: yeah but i don't have to. i just want it to work on it
[01:43] <dr_willis> coreyb:  enough to know its not related to ubuntu.. but based on fedora.
[01:43] <djzn> QUESTION: how do i turn offline the suggestions for online applications on the lens?
[01:43] <modifier> Orkultus: broadcom is also ok now with ubuntu 12.10 and its driver integrated under additional drivers software sources...otherwsie it was nothing more then a pain in***
[01:43] <dr_willis> !adlens
[01:44] <modifier> srry 4 lingo...
[01:44] <harris> in 12.04 how do i add evolution to mail applet
[01:44] <Orkultus> mehwork: when i had an nvidia card, it would automaticly detect my TV, and it was in my Nvidia-Settings as an option to choose
[01:44] <un2him> djzn, search for privacy, then there is an option to disable online search results
[01:44] <Orkultus> mehwork: does your ATI settings program have options?
[01:44] <AceFace> compdoc: i used "sudo cat /etc/group | grep kvm" and "sudo cat /etc/group | grep qemu" and "sudo cat /etc/group | grep libvirt" to find all groups related to my kvm problem, i then added these users to the groups: root, <username>, libvirt-qemu, libvirt-dnsmasq to all the groups
[01:44] <Orkultus> mehwork: also which driver are you using?
[01:45] <yugnip> DarkAceLaptop, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10939919&postcount=2
[01:45] <djzn> dr_willis, i done that, i am talking about the APPLICATIONS that appear (Free, Paid, Free, Free)
[01:45] <AceFace> then rebooted for good measure and now it works! ^_^
[01:45] <_DADDY> i got xubuntu and my cpu is only running at 1400 whereas it should be 2.7
[01:45] <Orkultus> _DADDY: there an option in BIOS?
[01:45] <djzn> apps from the repo not installed are appearing
[01:45] <dr_willis> djzn:  i recall there be a setting/checkbox for that.  i turned it off ages ago.
[01:45] <harris> hello
[01:45] <mehwork> Orkultus: idk, it crashed i'm over it
[01:45] <_DADDY> no hp style bios
[01:46] <djzn> dr_willis, yes, there is this one i forgot
[01:46] <harris> dr_willis,  how do i add evolution to 12.04
[01:46] <Orkultus> mehwork: well sorry i couldn't be of much help. Just be glad you dont have to deal with Nvidia Optimus
[01:46] <harris> mail applet
[01:46] <dr_willis> harris:  if its not instlled - use the package manager tools to installit.
[01:46] <harris> i have evolution
[01:47] <savagecroc> does anyone have any suggestions of what to do to lock down a default ubuntu server box?
[01:47] <harris> but its not in mail applet
[01:47] <_DADDY> anyone know if ubuntu supports gtx660m?
[01:47] <dr_willis> _DADDY:  it should. You could check the forums and askubuntu.com to see if anonye has specific issues with it.
[01:47] <Orkultus> _DADDY: im running a GT 640M 2gb...im sure it's in the same driver as the one i have
[01:47] <compdoc> AceFace, cool
[01:48] <harris> dr_willis,  i have evolution but not showing up in top right mail thing
[01:48] <dr_willis> harris:  no idea. I never use it.
[01:48] <modifier> how to install xubuntu lubuntu kubuntu and various other environments on ubuntu ?
[01:48] <harris> how do i add thunderbird to it
[01:48] <dr_willis> modifier:  via the package manager tools..   packagtes will be like lubuntu-desktop  kubuntu-desktop and so forth
[01:48] <Orkultus> modifier: say you want LXDE..you just sudo apt-get install lxde-common lxde lxde-core
[01:49] <_DADDY> anyone think they could help me out with a low cpu mhz its well below normal in ubuntu
[01:49] <modifier> Orkultus: that will give only lxde skin
[01:49] <dr_willis> _DADDY:  my system auto throttles the cpu up/down as needed...
[01:49] <modifier> but i want whole lubuntu on ubuntu as a profile
[01:49] <Orkultus> modifier that's what i did to get the lxde desktop. i run cinnamon as my default
[01:49] <Orkultus> im on Linux Mint 14
[01:50] <dr_willis> modifier:  you install the *-desktop package then select the one to use at the login screen
[01:50] <modifier> ohh
[01:50] <_DADDY> dr_willis: hmm
[01:50] <_DADDY> omg i hate mint
[01:50] <Orkultus> ;)
[01:50] <_DADDY> i just got rid of it
[01:50] <modifier> Orkultus: how to install cinnamon on ubuntu ? have heard a lot about it and openbox
[01:50] <Orkultus> modifier you need to find a ppa for it
[01:51] <dr_willis> !info openbox
[01:51] <_DADDY> xface is better than cinnamon imo
[01:51] <_DADDY> xfce*
[01:51] <Orkultus> modifier then it's as simple as sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[01:51] <modifier> ok
[01:51] <dr_willis> and hope cinnamon dosent break the rest of the system.. ;)
[01:52] <modifier> dr_willis: confirm plz....it will be bad if it breaks :(
[01:52] <Thor> lol
[01:52] <dr_willis> modifier:  if cinnamon breaks your ubuntu box.. you are on your own. its an unsupported by this channel ppa/desktop
[01:53] <modifier> then better i will leave it
[01:53] <Thor> modifier: try it in a vm first and see if anything breaks
[01:53] <modifier> ok
[01:53] <Orkultus> modifier: also note that it probly wont run well with ATI cards...hence the new Gnome environment
[01:53] <djono> hello im having problems with flash on chromium
[01:53] <Thor> modifier: you should be able to find virtualbox in apt :)
[01:53] <_DADDY> modifier: u try go with xfce
[01:54] <Orkultus> modifier: there are plenty of desktop environments to try from
[01:54] <Orkultus> modifier: Mate is also another version simular to cinnamon
[01:54] <modifier> ok
[01:54] <tweikable> <- anyone free need help installing vidila verzon of tor on my ubuntu 12.10
[01:54] <modifier> there are thousand...i just choose the big-wigs
[01:55] <_DADDY> cinnamon isnt all that good i feel nor gnome-shell nor unity
[01:55] <dr_willis> Or just stick to unity. since that will be the easiest to get support on.
[01:55] <Orkultus> modifier: if you like customization... E17 as well..just watch out for the network manager that it tries to install
[01:56] <android> ZSNES is arguably the most popular and highest rated SNES emulator available. sudo apt-get install zsnes
[01:56] <Orkultus> android already have it
[01:56] <modifier> ok
[01:56] <android> nice
[01:57] <modifier> are u both talking to me ?
[01:57] <histo> modifier: openbox is pretty nice. Also if you are into tiling managers awesome wm is where it's at
[01:57] <modifier> zsnes ?
[01:57] <djzn> i  hate unity but i am using it.
[01:57] <histo> tweikable: have you tried just using the tor browsers availible?
[01:57] <Orkultus> for a suggestion to anyone looking for a new laptop. If you get an ACER V3-771G ..haha your gonna have a hell of a time getting linux to run
[01:57] <histo> tweikable: much easier to set up and it's portable
[01:58] <tweikable> i think so ,  not sure is does it have the features that vidilia has with being able to click for new identity
[01:58] <djzn> unity needs to show the applications menu at all times.... always, like MAC
[01:58] <histo> tweikable: yes it does
[01:58] <tweikable> problem im haviang. when i type tor in terminal says its running. i go to ip chicken. still says my ip address
[01:58] <Super_Dog> Upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 went pretty well but I can't seem to load Acrobat Reader 9.X that was on my old 10.04 setup.
[01:58] <tweikable> with the light sppeed bs
[01:58] <dr_willis> Theres indicator applets to show a more old type menu... trivial to install.
[01:58] <histo> tweikable: you can choose a new identity in the side panel that's open
[01:59] <Super_Dog> I get this: "acroread : Depends: ia32-libs (>= 20080808) but it is not going to be installedE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[01:59] <histo> tweikable: can't remember if it's vidalia or what it's called
[01:59] <tweikable> ok./ i will re download it. i have fast internet, do you have the time to help me out
[01:59] <Super_Dog> I see this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acroread/+bug/990761
[01:59] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: do you really need acrobat? Linux has plenty of other PDF reader programs
[01:59] <tweikable> should i download vidila, or the tor browser package
[01:59] <Adiost> Hey guys
[01:59] <tweikable> hi.
[01:59] <djono> how do u get flash to work?
[02:00] <histo> tweikable: tor browser
[02:00] <tweikable> ok. once sec tyhank you so much for this help
[02:00] <tweikable> 1 sec
[02:00] <Super_Dog> Actually I do.  Only one that will open password secured encrypted files my co-workers send me.
[02:00] <modifier> i like foxit phantom....anyone suggest its equivalent for linux
[02:00] <Orkultus> djono: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:00] <Adiost> Some time ago I've heard that recompiling kernel on the machine to use on could significantly improve perfomance
[02:00] <Adiost> is that true?
[02:00] <tweikable> ok i clicked
[02:00] <djono> thx
[02:01] <tweikable> im using archive manager right
[02:01] <modifier> Orkultus: djono install adobe-flashplugin
[02:01] <tweikable> or do i just save it
[02:01] <dr_willis> Adiost:  if you knew enough to compile it.. and knew enough to know what to optmize.. perhaps..
[02:01] <dr_willis> Adiost:  hard to justify the work needed.
[02:01] <Super_Dog> Looks like this is a known problem.
[02:01] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: what does sudo apt-get -f install do?
[02:01] <Super_Dog> Nothing...
[02:01] <tweikable> Should i be using archive manager to open the file. or just save it. when clicking tor browswer bundle
[02:02] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: it looks like it's needing 32 bit libs...is there a 64bit version?
[02:02] <android> The best alternative for CCleaner in Linux is BleachBit sudo apt-get install bleachbit
[02:02] <yugnip> i am trying to compile an app that needs openGL, which i thought i had, but the app doesn't http://pastebin.com/L4uJQvd2
[02:03] <Adiost> Orkultus: -f for "forced"
[02:03] <Super_Dog> Here's the output from command "sudo apt-get -f install" -  http://pastebin.com/BMiRHkWG
[02:04] <tweikable> ok i just downlaoded it now what should i do
[02:04] <tweikable> sudo apt-get install telepathy-sofiasip telepathy-butterfly telepathy-idle libtelepathy-farsight0 python-tpfarsight
[02:04] <tweikable> ups wronge post
[02:04] <yugnip> Super_Dog, you have something else open that is a package manager
[02:05] <yugnip> Super_Dog, close synaptic or software center or update manager first
[02:05] <Super_Dog> Nope.  Software Sources, Synaptic, and Update Manager are closed.  Just have terminal window open.
[02:05] <tweikable> after downloading tor browser bundle. were should i extract it to
[02:05] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i would check your processes with the top command
[02:06] <bean> Orkultus: ps aux
[02:06] <bean> works better
[02:06] <yugnip> Super_Dog, update manager is probably working in the background, give it a minute and run the command again
[02:07] <Super_Dog> Update manager is not running.  Not in tab list or in programs on "top" command.
[02:07] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i sent you a link
[02:08] <Super_Dog> Tried this.   They always drop support on everything
[02:12] <Super_Dog> Let me check...
[02:13] <Super_Dog> Is there no 64 bit *.deb file for Adobe Reader?
[02:13] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: no sorry
[02:13] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: like i said, adobe dont give a crap about linux. im suprised we had a 32bit version
[02:13] <Super_Dog> But the 32-bit works on our 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS....?
[02:13] <vuln> dr_willis: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 540M] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[02:14] <Super_Dog> ...still installing over here.
[02:14] <vuln> I'm sorry for taking so long to reply you dr_willis :)
[02:14] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: that 32bit version works on my 64bit Linux Mint 14 no problem
[02:14] <whatasunnyday> Hi! I rebooted my entire computer and it isn't in a language I recognize. It looks like its asian based.
[02:14] <whatasunnyday> I'm using cinannamon and I have no idea how I did this or to convert it back.
[02:14] <_DADDY> Orkultus, speaking of mint did you have any wifi connection issues?
[02:14] <whatasunnyday> Some programs are in in this asian text like xchat but I remember what buttons to press so it isn't so bad.
[02:15] <challengerX> whatasunnyday: no racist comments
[02:15] <Orkultus> _DADDY: sometimes the connection would drop..was an easy fix...had to go into the connection settings and disable ipv6
[02:15] <Super_Dog> ...atom processor ain't the quickest running 64-bit I guess...
[02:16] <dr_willis> whatasunnyday:  cinammon isent really supported here so we cant help much
[02:16] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: lol nope...good for a netbook though
[02:16] <_DADDY> Orkultus, yep thats the one i couldnt get it to stop
[02:16] <Super_Dog> will report Orkultus.... be patient please...
[02:16] <whatasunnyday> challengerX: what did I say that it was racist?
[02:17] <Orkultus> whatasunnyday: i will send you a link with the fix to your exact problem
[02:17] <whatasunnyday> thanks orkultus.
[02:17] <Orkultus> np
[02:17] <whatasunnyday> i think i sent it in ubuntu
[02:18] <whatasunnyday> because in the system settings there is only one icon that is in this non english text
[02:18] <whatasunnyday> and its a flag with a un symbol
[02:18] <whatasunnyday> it has a list of possible languages to convert to but i can't read any of them
[02:18] <Orkultus> whatasunnyday: ah
[02:18] <Orkultus> whatasunnyday: try that webpage
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> no dice orkultus
[02:20] <djzn> whatasunnyday, another racist comment ?
[02:20] <challengerX>  /join #vbox
[02:20] <challengerX> :P
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> dzjn, i'm sorry
[02:20] <djzn> whatasunnyday, just kidding... he was harsh on you..
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> i'm not sure what i'm saying thats racist and i don't mean to sound ignorant
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> oh
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> :(
[02:20] <challengerX> pheww !
[02:20] <Orkultus> lol
[02:20] <djzn> i am a convict racist! but I can't tell anything here.
[02:21] <Orkultus> everyone is racist..it's ok
[02:22] <Super_Dog> Seemed to install Acrobat but does not launch.  Unless it takes like 5 minutes to launch...  There is now an AcroReader icon in Unity.
[02:22] <jirido> rasist is a bit stupid, its mor natural to be a culurist
[02:22] <dr_willis> you could run it from terminal and look for errors.
[02:22] <amagee> hey, i have a vps running ubuntu 12.04 that has just decided that it won't let me run `top` without sudo; it says "Cannot find /proc/version - is /proc mounted?"  .. any ideas?
[02:23] <jrib> amagee: ls -l /proc/version
[02:23] <^Rubiu5^> hi
[02:23] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: lol it took my quad core a few seconds to load it...it comes with up their license terms page first
[02:23] <Super_Dog> Here's what I get when I run "acroread" from terminal:  http://pastebin.com/L8V0BBhT
[02:24] <amagee> jrib: -r--r----- 1 root root 0 Jan 15 13:23 /proc/version  .  I tried giving it other-read, but that just made the problem more bizarre.  There is no error message, but the entire terminal session breaks.
[02:24] <^Rubiu5^> windows 8 is the best OS ever ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ :D
[02:24] <Orkultus> sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[02:24] <whatasunnyday> can anyone read chinese?
[02:24] <Super_Dog> "libstdc++.so.6" ???
[02:24] <Super_Dog> Will try it.
[02:25] <^Rubiu5^> chineses sucks
[02:25] <somsip> whatasunnyday: google translate
[02:25] <Orkultus> i took windows 8 off this windows 8 only laptop and put linux on it
[02:25] <whatasunnyday> i can't select the text to highlight to copy and paste
[02:25] <lewisou> ^Rubiu5^: want do you mean by that?
[02:25] <blkadder> amagee: That looks pretty broken.
[02:25] <Super_Dog> "libstdc++6 is already the newest version."
[02:25] <jrib> ^Rubiu5^: this channel is for ubuntu support.  Please stop with the offtopic chatter here
[02:25] <^Rubiu5^> .oO lewisou Oo. i mean what i mean
[02:25] <^Rubiu5^> .oO jrib Oo. ok
[02:26] <challengerX> ^Rubiu5^: Did you come here for bill gates charity program?
[02:26] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i could be looking for the 32bit..which im sure it is
[02:26] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6:i386
[02:26] <whatasunnyday> orkultus, i looked at the second answer and it helped :)
[02:26] <^Rubiu5^> .oO challengerX Oo. of course
[02:26] <Orkultus> whatasunnyday: good good
[02:26] <whatasunnyday> sorry the second link
[02:26] <whatasunnyday> well not the second link but the second answer
[02:27] <^Rubiu5^> ok ok
[02:27] <whatasunnyday> i'm out guys
[02:27] <Guest98604> Hi. First off well done to anyone involved in the Lubuntu project (It runs so much faster than windows on a Celeron 2.4Ghz)    Q: When loading Qjack (Lubuntu) there is no sound and system has to be re-booted to get sound back....Any hints?
[02:27] <whatasunnyday> thanks for yoru help
[02:27] <Orkultus> later
[02:27] <^Rubiu5^> understood
[02:27] <Orkultus> np
[02:27] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i love chasing dependencies...lol
[02:28] <jrib> amagee: guess you need to figure out why the permissions are like that, for starters
[02:28] <Super_Dog> Thanks Orkultus....at least something installed with that command.  You are very clever...
[02:28] <challengerX> ^Rubiu5^: Good!
[02:28] <K350> What doesn't run faster then windows on any system?
[02:28] <Orkultus> so what's going on with the losing 32bit support in kernel 3.8?
[02:28] <modifier> how to create debs with compiled apps ?
[02:28] <Guest98604> :)
[02:28] <amagee> jrib: yeah, i have no idea.. it was working last time i logged onto the system. i think i'll just file a ticket with the vps provider.
[02:28] <somsip> Orkultus: i386 support, not 32bit
[02:28] <jrib> amagee: probably best
[02:28] <Super_Dog> Bingo..... Orkultus is the king.  Thank you very much sir.  Another pleasant solution on the #ubuntu IRC channel.
[02:28] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: got it working eh? awesome!
[02:29] <challengerX> K350:  BSOD
[02:29] <Super_Dog> Yep.... thanks for that one.  I'm OK at Ubuntu troubleshooting but definitely not in your league...
[02:29] <vuln> Anyone who has successfuly managed to use Unity+Compiz in Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:29] <modifier> Orkultus: get TM5600 chipset capture card working !
[02:29] <Orkultus> so what does this mean for supplying i386 libs for programs in a 64 environment?
[02:29] <malkauns> vuln, yes
[02:29] <K350> challengerX: lol
[02:29] <malkauns> vuln, unity uses compiz LOL
[02:29] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: Glad to help :)
[02:31] <lanken> ok, WTF unity, I'm trying to add Sublime Text to the launcher, and it's impossible
[02:31] <whatasunnyday> alright, so i still have the problem
[02:31] <Super_Dog> Boy Adobe's really gone to crap on Linux...  Version 9.5.1?  I'm using 11 on my Windows Laptop...
[02:31] <lanken> I've tried dragging in the executable, tried dragging in a "Launcher / shortcut thing" of the executable
[02:31] <somsip> Orkultus: mayeb this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/229814/does-the-removal-of-i386-from-the-kernel-mean-ubuntu-is-dropping-32-bit-support
[02:31] <malkauns> lanken, u need to create a .desktop file, most of which are located in /usr/share/applications
[02:31] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: like i said..adobe doesn't care about linux..lol
[02:32] <whatasunnyday> what i noticed: in /etc/default/locate the first two lines: LANG and LANGUAGE were to zn:utf-8 and i set them back to english
[02:32] <Super_Dog> Wow, I can tell.  This interface is harsh....
[02:32] <whatasunnyday> where else is it set other than /etc/default/locale?
[02:32] <lanken> malkauns: how is this different from the "links" that I can create with the file browser?
[02:32] <lanken> malkauns: are those symlinks?
[02:33] <malkauns> lanken, .desktop files in that dir show up in the unity launcher if the icon is set correctly
[02:33] <vuln> malkauns: when I press SUPER, the left app bar of Unity is not showing up :( (it's not viewable, but it's there). Do you know how can I work this around?
[02:33] <malkauns> lanken, no
[02:33] <funky> Anyone know how to access unity's Suspend option on Gnome 3?
[02:33] <Orkultus> somsip: oh i see..thanks
[02:33] <malkauns> vuln, tried unity --replace & ?
[02:34] <zack> hi
[02:34] <zack> can someone help me out, im an ubuntu newbie
[02:34] <challengerX> z
[02:34] <zack> so I just installed ubuntu 12.10. I went to system settings and for graphics, it says "Unknown". there are no propietary driers installed.
[02:35] <zack> how do I get propietary drivers? am I basically screwed
[02:35] <zack> its so laggy
[02:35] <zack> Radeon x600
[02:35] <malkauns> lanken, links tell the filesystem where a file is, .desktop files contain metadata about an application including the path to the binary
[02:35] <lanken> malkauns: this is incredibly frustrating for such a basic use case.
[02:35] <malkauns> lanken, agree :P
[02:35] <vuln> Just did malkauns. It didnt work
[02:35] <vuln> :(
[02:35] <malkauns> but its up to the app developer to provide the .desktop file in the install package
[02:35] <lanken> malkauns: there's a youtube video instructing me to basically clone one of the .desktop files and change its properties to point to the thing I want to target
[02:36] <JonathanLima> i was updating from 12.04 to 12.10 and my system suspended... i made a loop on bash to run apt-get upgrade, dist-upgrade and -f install... but i got stuck on a dependency problem that seems to have something to do with mesa... could someone give me a hand?
[02:36] <malkauns> lanken, yea that's what i usually do
[02:36] <zack> can someone please help me find a driver for ubuntu 12.10 64-bit, graphics card Radeon X600
[02:36] <zack> please!
[02:36] <KI4RO> Why doesn't gtkpod show up as an option on the programs list for when I insert a music player? (IPOD)
[02:36] <zack> display driver
[02:36] <malkauns> vuln, how do u know the unity launcher is really there but u cant see it?
[02:36] <lanken> malkauns: that's bullshit, it's up to the desktop environment to provide convenient ways of launching your programs. please.
[02:36] <vuln> malkauns: cause pressint TAB and ENTER I can run the apps that were there :D
[02:37] <zack> someone please
[02:37] <vuln> I mean SUPER and then TAB, TAB, TAB and ENTER and it will run the app that was third on the list
[02:37] <vuln> ^_^
[02:37] <malkauns> lanken, the desktop environment cannot just "guess" where an app is that u install unless the installer tells it
[02:37] <Orkultus> KI4R0: it never did that for me as well
[02:37] <zack> I cant find display drivers and its so laggy . x600 radeon
[02:37] <Orkultus> KI4R0: of course i just used rhythmbox or Banshee to deal with my ipod
[02:37] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Thanks...very strange...do you use gtkpod?
[02:38] <Guest98604> Q: Audio works on Ubuntu Studio (But graphics lacking) so changed to Lubuntu (Graphics acceptable) but sound cuts when loading Qjack and have to reboot?....Any hints??
[02:39] <malkauns> vuln, strange, u have your display drivers set up properly?
[02:39] <lanken> malkauns: Nautilus probably needs to do the work. If you've got an executable binary in a folder, you should be able to drag it to the unity bar (ideally), or at the very least have a quick action to "add this to System Applications"
[02:39] <vuln> malkauns: I think so
[02:39] <malkauns> lanken, true
[02:39] <vuln> '^_^
[02:39] <lanken> this is a real let-down. I'll install kde3.5 if anything else like this happens to me.
[02:39] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Wife got me the shuffle as a Christmas present.  I've been using Rhythmbox as well but would like to use gtkpod since it is supposedly written for the device
[02:40] <malkauns> lanken, LOL
[02:40] <vuln> malkauns: I think it may be a conflict with some Compiz things I have set up.
[02:40] <lanken> it's also infuriating that you can't manually text-edit the path of the nautilus breadcrumbs.
[02:40] <malkauns> vuln, does it work fine with unity 2d?
[02:40] <malkauns> lanken, omg hell will break loose if u do that LOL
[02:41] <Guest98604> Is it even worth trying programs like Qjack in Lubuntu?
[02:41] <Orkultus> KI4R0: i found gtkpod to be very confusing. It was the first ipod supported program for Linux, but then later on other musics adapted the plugin
[02:41] <malkauns> vuln, maybe try unity --reset (baring in mind it will reset anything u did in ccsm)
[02:41] <vuln> malkauns: unity 2d?
[02:41] <vuln> malkauns: it all worked just fine before I started messing with ccsm :P
[02:41] <malkauns> vuln, unity --reset will restore things to default
[02:41] <Orkultus> KI4R0: Music Players* is what i ment
[02:41] <vuln> malkauns: aw :(
[02:42] <vuln> I will give it a shot
[02:42] <malkauns> vuln, well at least then u can track down what it is in ccsm that messed it up
[02:42] <KI4RO> Orkultus, That was my experience with Gtkpod as well...thought it was just me...glad I'm not the only one! LOL
[02:42] <vuln> malkauns: indeed.
[02:42] <vuln> I set up my Ubuntu in Italian in order to not forget my italian
[02:42] <malkauns> heh
[02:42] <vuln> but I'm not used to Ubuntu terms in Italian so I'm a bit confused
[02:42] <vuln> haha
[02:43] <lanken> malkauns: kubuntu was always a piece of crap, but kde3.5 is golden. it's still maintained.
[02:43] <Orkultus> KI4R0: yeah i really would prefer to use either Rhythmbox, or Banshee..there is also Amarok, if your in a KDE environment
[02:43] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Maybe they'll come with a new more friendly version one of these days! LOL
[02:43] <Orkultus> KI4R0: lol we all hope
[02:43] <kdns> Hi all :) My logs are full of entries about nullmailer: nullmailer[1886]	Starting delivery: protocol: smtp host: mail. file:<PHONE_NUMBER>.11263
[02:43] <vuln> O____O
[02:43] <vuln> Now it disappeared!
[02:43] <malkauns> lanken, mmm no global menu but maybe u dont mind
[02:43] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Tried Amarok...it, also, was confusing to me
[02:43] <Guest98604> Sorry....Just realized there is a channel for Lubuntu :)
[02:43] <kdns> Please tell me what it creating and what is attempting to send these messages, I'd like to turn both OFF
[02:43] <vuln> When I press super malkauns, the whole window appear BUT the left bar
[02:44] <vuln> what might have happened?
[02:44] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Didn't care for it taking up residence in my system either
[02:44] <Orkultus> KI4R0: give Banshee a try
[02:44] <malkauns> vuln, hmm now try unity --replace
[02:44] <vuln> k
[02:45] <rkdewa> morning brothers
[02:45] <rkdewa> haay
[02:46] <rkdewa> hallo
[02:46] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Thanks for the suggestion and for chatting with me regarding the Ipod...always nice to find another person
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience | rkdewa
[02:46] <Orkultus> Ki4R0: always glad to help
[02:46] <KI4RO> Orkultus, One more question...have you had any luck getting the Ipod to announce what its playing?
[02:46] <vuln> malkauns: didnt work :o
[02:47] <vuln> the bar is still issing
[02:47] <skp1> SonikkuAmerica: yo
[02:47] <malkauns> vuln, hmm
[02:48] <Super_Dog> Man - now I have a "cannot install ia32-libs" error in Software center trying to install TeamViewer...
[02:48] <malkauns> vuln, maybe u have to remove your .config/compiz-1 then
[02:48] <malkauns> vuln, in your home dir
[02:48] <Super_Dog> These 32-bit libraries are really roughing me up...
[02:48] <vuln> the entire dir malkauns ?
[02:49] <malkauns> vuln, yea or maybe just move it to compiz-1_bak or something
[02:49] <malkauns> just incase
[02:49] <vuln> k
[02:49] <vuln> then unity --replace again?
[02:49] <malkauns> reset, then replace
[02:50] <vuln> unity --reset ?
[02:50] <malkauns> might just be better to log out and back in again after reset
[02:50] <malkauns> yea
[02:50] <Orkultus> KI4R0: this when you are playing the ipod while it's attatched to the computer?
[02:50] <vuln> the nunity --replace? can I do it from a terminal like ctrl+alt+F1 or I must do it in the current display?
[02:50] <malkauns> current display..
[02:50] <vuln> ty
[02:50] <KI4RO> Orkultus, No supposed to be able to do it when you are playing it while walking...it is a shuffle
[02:51] <malkauns> if u do it from ctr+alt+F1 then u must do export DISPLAY=:0 before
[02:51] <dr_willis> unity --replace wouldent work from teh consoles.
[02:51] <malkauns> dr_willis, it will if u set the DISPLAY environment variable
[02:51] <Orkultus> KI4R0: oh so it says it like with voice in your headphones?
[02:51] <dr_willis> then it woul dbe the same as running it on the running desktop. ;)
[02:52] <malkauns> yep
[02:52] <KI4RO> Orkultus, yes, it is supposed to be able to do that
[02:52] <dr_willis> Unity and compiz can get so confused - its often better to log out/back in
[02:52] <malkauns> yea
[02:52] <Orkultus> KI4R0: never had the chance to see one of those ipods. I have a classic 80gb. That's the last time i have touched an ipod
[02:53] <malkauns> but unity --replace restarts compiz anyway
[02:53] <Guest98604> Why is there nobody in Lubuntu room :(
[02:53] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Okay, thanks again.  Have a nice...whatever it is in your part of the world
[02:53] <dr_willis> They change this stuff with every reelase i cant rember
[02:53] <dr_willis> Guest98604:  because they are all in here perhaps.
[02:54] <malkauns> if compiz/unity crash or mess up often like it does for me, then login out and back in every time isnt an option
[02:54] <dr_willis> I rarely have  issues in 12.10 these days..
[02:54] <Orkultus> KI4R0: washington state...cold and rainy...you have a good one as well
[02:54] <Guest98604> I'm not sure if that answers the question but thanks.
[02:54] <vuln> it's really messed up now :(
[02:54] <malkauns> i'm on 12.04 and will wait for 13.04
[02:54] <vuln> left bar doesnt appear and when I maximize a window there is an empty space at the top
[02:54] <vuln> between the window and the top bar
[02:54] <vuln> :(
[02:54] <vuln> malkauns:
[02:55] <malkauns> 12.10 had too many issues for me when it was first out
[02:55] <malkauns> vuln, ?
[02:55] <dr_willis> vuln:  does the guest user work properly?
[02:55] <vuln> :(
[02:55] <vuln> I will have to log out to test it out, right?
[02:55] <malkauns> vuln, probably the best thing to do
[02:56] <dr_willis> also you could test with a newly made user. - if the new user and guest have the same issue -> points to a system issue.. if they WORK -> points to a Setting file for the problem user
[02:56] <malkauns> brb
[02:56] <vuln> YES
[02:56] <vuln> It works perfectly (the guest session)
[02:56] <malkauns> nice
[02:56] <malkauns> vuln, now you're getting somewhere
[02:57] <vuln> It sounds like so
[02:57] <vuln> So what should I do?
[02:57] <dr_willis> now i would make a test user. and verify it works for them
[02:57] <dr_willis> 'sudo adduser testuser'
[02:58] <Guest98604> It's my name isn't it?....It says ignore me I haven't even bothered to come up with an inventive name.
[02:59] <vuln> Yes, it does dr_willis
[02:59] <vuln> created and logged in and the lfet bar is perfect
[02:59] <vuln> left*
[02:59] <alexandros_c> how to enble hibernate on xubuntu 12.10?
[03:00] <Guest98604> Guest98604 has quit  :)
[03:00] <bsmith093> firefox is dead, but my swap is still full how do i fix that without rebooting
[03:01] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: is it located in the xfce-settings menu under power?
[03:01] <K350> c
[03:01] <K350> c
[03:01] <vuln> dr_willis, malkauns what should I do then?
[03:01] <alexandros_c> it is greyed out and my computer supports hibernate
[03:01] <vuln> It sounds reasonable that it should work after removing compiz-1
[03:02] <malkauns> vuln, back up and remove your user dir and user then readd it
[03:02] <Orkultus> bsmith093: you want to clear you swap memory?
[03:02] <malkauns> vuln, maybe its your ~/.gnome2 too
[03:02] <dr_willis> id nuke every setting in your home; _
[03:03] <dr_willis> Nuke it from orbit.. only way to be sure. ;)
[03:03] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Alexandro, it was removed as an option. I forget whether or not you can reenable it.
[03:03] <bsmith093> Orkultus: yes, and the ram too
[03:03] <dr_willis> Or MOve all the setting files/dirs to a backup dir.
[03:03] <malkauns> vuln, try removing ~/.gnome2 as a quick test, if that doesn't work then do what i said above
[03:03] <Orkultus> bsmith093: have you tried the swapoff and swapon commands?
[03:03] <malkauns> vuln, log out and back in ofcourse to make sure your test is good
[03:03] <bsmith093> whats that
[03:03] <dr_willis>  dozens of setting files in .config and .gnome* and .gconf*  i recall
[03:03] <alexandros_c> Orkultus, it is not available there, but my computer supports hibernate. tried the enable  fix but it did not work
[03:04] <dr_willis> I can nuke my settings and back to my normal setup in about a min. ;)
[03:05] <Orkultus> bsmith093: such like sudo swapoff -a sudo swapon -a
[03:05] <dr_willis> also double check the .Xauthority file. it shouldent be owned by root.  you could just move/rename it also
[03:05] <vuln> .Xauthority is owned by my user
[03:05] <Orkultus> alexandros_c you running on a Laptop?
[03:06] <Super_Dog> Anybody got 64-bit Teamviewer working in 12.04 LTS?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/971761
[03:06] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i got it working
[03:06] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: you need wine installed
[03:06] <alexandros_c> Orkultus, yes dell inspiron 9400
[03:06] <vuln> so I remove ~/.gnome2
[03:06] <Guest98604> Guest986604 has quit......Not :)   Any Lubuntu engineers floating about?    Please tell me what it creating and what is attempting to send these messages, I'd like to turn both OFF
[03:07] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: under my power settings for my laptop is has controls for hibernation for like when i close my laptop lid, or idle out
[03:07] <Super_Dog> Should I use TViewer 7 or TV 8 Beta 64-bit...
[03:07] <BONG_IT> how to mount folder from a server
[03:07] <bsmith093> ok im using 99.9% of swap and 75% of ram and i cant find where its all going, what do i do???
[03:07] <SuperFunkyFly> How can I reboot my networking.
[03:07] <alexandros_c> Orkultus, hibernate is not an option
[03:08] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-power-manager
[03:08] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: i believe it would be called suspend
[03:08] <SuperFunkyFly> Is /etc/init.d/networking restart the only way?
[03:08] <kdns> bsmith093:  look at a task manager and sort by memory usage to find the hungry app
[03:08] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i would go with something stable like 7
[03:09] <bsmith093> kdns: i am and the greediest is only using 600mb of ram
[03:09] <kdns> SuperFunkyFly: No, but it works, doesn't it?
[03:09] <alexandros_c> no that is different, suspend is to RAM and hibernate is to disk
[03:09] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: Never know if a Beta is gonna fail you
[03:09] <snowrichard> hhh
[03:09] <PatrickDickey> SuperFunkyFly: sudo service networking restart might work
[03:09] <escott> bsmith093, "top -m" if you only have a command line
[03:09] <SuperFunkyFly> PatrickDickey that was much quicker and to the point. Thx
[03:09] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Bsmith, try running htop from bash. It gives you a lot of good info about what's doing what
[03:09] <Super_Dog> SuperFunkyFly:  If it's Samba you're dealing with you may wish to try:  "sudo service smbd restart"
[03:09] <kdns> bsmith093: how much ram and swap do you have?
[03:09] <PatrickDickey> SuperFunkyFly: They both do the same thing, and in some cases, you have to do the long route.
[03:10] <SuperFunkyFly> Never used Samba?
[03:10] <bsmith093> kdns: 953mb swap 2gb ram
[03:10] <bsmith093> 2008 laptop
[03:10] <escott> BONG_IT, please change your nick and identify what kind of network share this is. windows SMB, or NFR or ftp etc
[03:10] <PDun> I know this sounds retarded, but what is the key combination to kill a running program in terminal?
[03:10] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Ctrl-c
[03:10] <alexandros_c> Orkultus, I know what you are toalking about my laptop suspports suspend and hibernate
[03:10] <kdns> SuperFunkyFly: it was to the point because he made the assumption that you don't know that you need to be root to restart networking. Sorry I wanted to work up to it without making assumptions.
[03:11] <BONG_IT> how to change nick
[03:11] <PatrickDickey> PDun, I use ps | grep process and then kill processID.
[03:11] <SuperFunkyFly> PatrickDickey kind of old school. Was working this this stuff back in 95 and now I am back with it in at work. Wow a lot has changed in the *nix world
[03:11] <BONG_IT> this is smb
[03:11] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: this is what i could find http://xflinux.blogspot.com/2011/01/enable-hibernate-and-suspend-in-xubuntu.html
[03:11] <kdns> bsmith093: that's not a lot, if your #1 app is using 600 of it, then #2 through #10 are probably enough to fill it.
[03:11] <escott> BONG_IT, /nick new_nickname
[03:11] <fishcooker> how to know that my boar using ivy bridge rather than sandy
[03:11] <PatrickDickey> SuperFunkyFly: Short answer is yes. Longer answer is in some ways yes. Things have gotten easier, but most of the original ways are still applicable.
[03:12] <escott> !samba | BONG_IT
[03:12] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: or try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation
[03:12] <SuperFunkyFly> kdns no sry about that. I just really did not know what Samba was. Been working with BSD for the last ... 10 years or so @.@
[03:12] <bsmith093> kdns:  but i have these apps open all the time and they never use this much, im gonna reboot
[03:12] <kdns> what's wrong with BONG_IT s nick?
[03:12] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Bsmith093 noooooooooo!
[03:13] <orbitwhite> hey guys i have abnormal amount of unused ram on my laptop, anything i could do to use it for some *good* purposes?
[03:13] <bsmith093> OnlyHalfTheTime: why not
[03:13] <Orkultus> to many bong hits...that's what's wrong
[03:13] <BONG_IT> the client also is ubuntu
[03:13] <kdns> bsmith093: I assumed you were in here because you'd already tried the basics. My bad. Yes, try a reboot.
[03:13] <SuperFunkyFly> thx escott .    Please tell me what is creating and what is attempting to send these messages, I'd like to turn both OFF
[03:13] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Linux never needs a reboot. I'm joking of course. If that fixes it, more power to you
[03:13] <phunyguy> escott, I just remembered what my issue with gvfs and cifs was.... the process would deadlock and freeze up the main system process.
[03:14] <escott> fishcooker, look at /proc/cpuinfo and google the stepping or the name
[03:14] <SuperFunkyFly> kdns do you have a smtp on your server and your ISP blocked port 25?
[03:14] <orbitwhite> kdns, nullmailer maybe? =)
[03:14] <Guest98604> I designed an element to add to linux that reduces performance issues by reprocessing data and creating a smaller data flow....It works a little bit like 7zip data compression.....Not really. I'm off to find the answer to my question. Bye
[03:14] <bsmith093> kdns:  well, ok then, sorry for not trying that already but one of the reasons i switched from vista besides bsod 4 times in 3 months, is the lack of rebooting
[03:14] <kdns> OnlyHalfTheTime: LOL
[03:14] <Orkultus> i gotta run guys
[03:14] <SuperFunkyFly> *=)
[03:14] <Orkultus> cya
[03:14] <Super_Dog> I get the error: "Cannot install 'ia32-libs" for either version of Teamviewer downloaded as 64-bit *.deb files...
[03:14] <nomadis> First time for me to use XChat or anything like it, hi yall
[03:15] <Super_Dog> nomadis:  Hello!
[03:15] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Hi nomadis
[03:15] <kdns> SuperFunkyFly: I'm not running a smtp server. Ubuntu Studio. No ports blocked. But I don't want it to even attempt to send these messages.
[03:15] <SuperFunkyFly> If your ISP blocked port 25 there are ways around that.
[03:15] <PatrickDickey> kdns which log is it in? (Not sure if it matters, but more information is better)
[03:16] <kdns> orbitwhite: lol yes I already googled it and found that it was supposedly apport creating crash logs, and nullmailer sending them
[03:16]  * rootpt is away: bbl
[03:16] <nomadis> I was told I could use this program to get on something called karaoke realm.. but I don't know how..
[03:16] <kdns> orbitwhite: but i don't know how nullmailer is scheduled to check for them, and I already disabled apport but it still appears to be creating these logs.
[03:16] <escott> Super_Dog, those were probably made for 12.04 or earlier. now we have multiarch so you can just apt-get install program:i386 the dependencies
[03:16] <orbitwhite> kdns, how  often do u need apport?
[03:17] <PatrickDickey> kdns: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nullmailer.htm
[03:17] <kdns> hi nomadis :)
[03:17] <kdns> I need apport never. This PC is an audio workstation and needs anything fluffy and extra turned off.
[03:17] <BONG_IT> how to update my repo
[03:17] <Super_Dog> escott:  I'm on 12.04 LTS...
[03:17] <orbitwhite> yeah there r always two ways, troubleshooting something u need to work and get rid of something u don't need for real lol
[03:18] <PatrickDickey> BONG_IT: if you're adding a repository, you can use sudo-apt-add-repository or open Software Sources and add it under the "Other Software" tab.
[03:18] <histo> BONG_IT: sudo apt-get update
[03:18] <Blkrdo> My ubuntu is stuck,after booting up,it halts with a violet screen,no icon,no sound,no keys working! Any help?
[03:18] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Blkrdo
[03:18] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, ctrl+alt+f1, does it show black screen with login promt? =)
[03:18] <BONG_IT> when im sudo apt-get update
[03:19] <BONG_IT> i have an error
[03:19] <Blkrdo> Ubottu: thank you
[03:19] <kdns> PatrickDickey: This is appearing in the system log
[03:19] <PatrickDickey> BONG_IT: what/s the error?
[03:19] <kdns> PatrickDickey: Thanks for the link, that might help me stop nullmailer from sending the messages, but what is creating them?
[03:19] <escott> Super_Dog, maybe it was 11.10... the years are blending together
[03:19] <PatrickDickey> kdns, I'm not sure. It might help you to figure that out too.
[03:20] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: no,nothing
[03:20] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: it was working fine 30min back
[03:20] <PatrickDickey> kdns: Also, the answer might be in the entries right before and after that one.
[03:20] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, what have changed for past 30min?
[03:21] <kdns> PatrickDickey: The entire log is full of these nullmailer messages... It just keeps retrying over and over....
[03:21] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: i guess i just installed codelite
[03:22] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: and a direct shutdown
[03:22] <kdns> bsmith093: You're right that linux generally needs a reboot less often than windows... Don't worry, this reboot is the first in a series of troubleshooting steps, which theoretically could lead you to not needing to reboot it.
[03:22] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, idk what is this but if it looks like the real reason for ur case, i would log into system over ssh and remove that all looking forward for next steps if necessary
[03:23] <bsmith093> kdns: well that fixed the insane swap fukll swap problem
[03:23] <Guest98604> 40689tseuG
[03:23] <kdns> bsmith093: It's not a fix it's a workaround :) The fix comes after you fnd out what caused it, and then that probem is made to go away forever.
[03:24] <kdns> bsmith093: You may find that you have an app with a memory leak or something
[03:24] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: but isnt it necesary for my system to be working for tha? How do i troubleshoot it?
[03:24] <lewisou> clear
[03:24] <kdns> hehehe
[03:24] <RomperStomp> Hi i was wondering is there a way to intall or build ubuntu for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1" (similar to nexus 7 style "Native install")?
[03:24] <PatrickDickey> bsmith093: how long had it been since you rebooted last?
[03:25] <bsmith093> PatrickDickey: 17days 3:04 hrs
[03:25] <PatrickDickey> RomperStomp: Try in #ubuntu-phone that's where the fun stuff is at. :)
[03:25] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, at the current point the most easy way is to troubleshoot it over ssh, if there is any interface left at all i would do it over busybox shell from bootloader if problem doesn't affect it too
[03:25] <kdns> 17 days is a fair while for a workstation.... What's the machine's purpose?
[03:25] <PatrickDickey> bsmith093: One or more of the applications might have a memory leak. That would use up the swap space, as well as RAM.
[03:26] <bsmith093> PatrickDickey: just pidgin gedit and the latest firefox , 18
[03:26] <kdns> Blkrdo: are you able to boot into recovery mode? (Hold shift before grub starts, and it will give you a menu)
[03:26]  * PatrickDickey bingoooooo
[03:26] <PatrickDickey> FIrefox is notorious for memory hogging. Especially if you have flash running in a window.
[03:26] <kdns> firefox.
[03:27] <kdns> yep.
[03:27] <Blkrdo> Kdns: yup,got recovery mode. now?
[03:27] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, the first thing to check is if the box is alive or not, if network configured to get up automatically ping will tell u if its dead for real or looks just looks like dead
[03:28] <orbitwhite> recovery mode works too lol
[03:28] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: now how do i use it actualy?
[03:29] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: root shell prompt!
[03:29] <orbitwhite> depends on what u wanna do
[03:29] <kdns> Blkrdo: I was actually checking to see the status of your box, don't actually plan on using recovery mode (not right now anyway) but the fact that it works is what I was after :)
[03:29] <kdns> However... You said you installed new packages... Recovery root prompt is one way to remove them
[03:29] <orbitwhite> i would check logs on root fs under /var/log especially syslog, kern.log and dmesg
[03:29] <Haematoma> where is the config file for USB HDD automount option?
[03:30] <kdns> yes, check the logs!!
[03:30] <Haematoma> I'm looking to create a UDEV rule that executes an RSYNC script whenever i plug in my hDD
[03:30] <kdns> Haematoma: the udev rules are the automount config :)
[03:30] <Haematoma> but I want to make sure that the drive partition(s) have been successfully mounted before the script is executed
[03:30] <orbitwhite> if u're 100% positive that it happened after installing some packages removing it would be a good step to fix it fast way
[03:31] <Haematoma> kdns: do you know of a way to ensure the drive partitions have been mounted before the script is execute?
[03:31] <kdns> Haematoma: I'd parse the output of the mount command.
[03:31] <Haematoma> kdns: I was thinking of using the wait command, but I'm betting that there is a better way of doing it
[03:32] <PatrickDickey> Haematoma: This might point you in the right direction (note, I haven't tried it--only Googled it) http://hackaday.com/2009/09/18/how-to-write-udev-rules/
[03:32] <Haematoma> kdns: thanks
[03:32] <PatrickDickey> Haematoma: I mention it, because they talk about an rsync script when a drive is automounted.
[03:32] <Haematoma> PatrickDickey: thanks. I'll look into it.
[03:33] <kdns> Haematoma: strictly speaking, you want to check for the UUID of your specific drive I guess
[03:33] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: i dont think so! Because its mostly something to do with my graphics driver! I got it while updating the system! But the last two time i re-installed completly,dont wana do ths time!
[03:33] <PatrickDickey> Blkrdo: what kind of card do you have?
[03:34] <ghosthole> Hi anyone able to help me with gpu, just installed the driver that ubuntu suggested rebooted and got black sceen and message say incompatable hardware... had to reinstall ubuntu
[03:35] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, linux doesn't need to be reinstalled until hardware fail of storage device(s) or lacking of skills, linux gives u more ways to configure it while it brings more responsibility for what was done
[03:35] <kdns> Haematoma: use blkid to look for your drive by UUID, then look for that device node (EG: /dev/sdc) in the output of mount.
[03:35] <PatrickDickey> ghosthole: which graphics card do you have?
[03:35] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, so u updated it and the driver for ur video adapter was updated too, right?
[03:36] <ghosthole> Radeon 7660g
[03:36] <Haematoma> kdns: Okay... I'm a little unfamiliar with the UNIX mounting process in general. I know there is the /mnt directory and the /media directory, but I don't know the difference between the two.
[03:36] <orbitwhite> i suggested ssh because in that case it would be easy for u to give us ur dmesg, kern.log and syslog from /var/log
[03:36] <PatrickDickey> !nomodset | ghosthole This might help you with the issue also. You'll reboot, and add it to the command line in grub using 'e' to edit.
[03:36] <ghosthole> The one on amd a10
[03:36] <Haematoma> kdns: I assume once a drive partition is properly mounted, the partition ends up in the /media directory, but can't say with certainty.
[03:36] <orbitwhite> and we would find out if the box boots to coma or it is alive actually
[03:37] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: that was last time! This time i made sure not to update! I admit lack of knowlege!
[03:37] <kdns> Haematoma: the udev rules in ubuntu mout most (all?) removable devices to /media
[03:37] <Haematoma> kdns: I'll have to read more I suppose. I'll try not to badger you into an oracle relationship. lol
[03:37] <PatrickDickey> !nomodeset | ghosthole The correct information for what I was trying to point you to.
[03:37] <kdns> Haematoma: and you can find out where your device is mounted by typing ''mount" at a shell
[03:37] <orbitwhite> nah i'm not saying someone is lacking of knowledge, im just trying to state the fact
[03:38] <kdns> Haematoma: however in your case, you will not need to know where the system intends to mount it, but just whether it is mounted, no?
[03:39] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, u c it is hard to determine what happened to ur system actually, but in order to make sure what was wrong people will ask u for logs
[03:39] <orbitwhite> if u don't know or not sure what happened
[03:39] <Haematoma> kdns: Since the mounted partition ends up in /media, I just need to know the name of the partition.
[03:40] <Haematoma> kdns: but my main concern is ensuring that the partition is properly mounted before my script attempts to rsync
[03:40] <PatrickDickey> Haematoma: is it mounted right now?
[03:40] <orbitwhite> if i were u and my box was configured with automatic network setup, first of all i would check if it gets up it's networking or it is completely dead
[03:40] <kdns> Haematoma: I hope you don't mind if i go backwards for a minute... what's actually the intended use case here?
[03:40] <kdns> ahhhh okay
[03:41] <orbitwhite> if ssh is an option, i would log into system and got back to community support
[03:41] <orbitwhite> otherwise i would boot into recovery mode
[03:41] <kdns> So the idea is, you plug the drive in, and it magically starts a backup for you (or something like that)
[03:41] <orbitwhite> took the logs from root fs
[03:41] <Haematoma> kdns: I run a media server at my house that I share with my roommates. I get tired of transferring media files to their external HDDs, so I set up a script which automatically xfers the files from their respective home download directories onto a selected HDD.
[03:41] <orbitwhite> and came back to coomunity with logs published on pastebin
[03:41] <orbitwhite> in order to figure out what exactly went wrong
[03:42] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: would he be able to install, and use pastebinit from recovery mode?
[03:42] <orbitwhite> PatrickDickey, i didn't say that
[03:42] <orbitwhite> sorry for being slow, english is not my primary language
[03:42] <Haematoma> kdns: the script is intended to sync the roommates invidual download folder with their HDD when they plug it in, and then send an email upon completion
[03:42] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: No, I'm not saying you did. I'm offering it as a way of him getting the logs on pastebin.
[03:43] <orbitwhite> nothing stops u from using usb storage, ssfs, smbfs or whatever option there is
[03:43] <kdns> Haematoma: Your housemates must think you are awesome.
[03:43] <orbitwhite> i suggested to check if ssh is an option at first matter
[03:43] <orbitwhite> because copy-paste and interactive console rocks for the context of situation
[03:43] <kdns> Haematoma: I guess then, you need a way to detect which housemate's HDD is connected, and then grab the appropriate files for that drive
[03:44] <kdns> ?
[03:44] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: agreed totally.
[03:44] <kdns> orbitwhite: +1
[03:44] <Haematoma> kdns: yeah, I already have that part covered... The part i'm struggling with is ensuring that the drive has been successfully mounted.
[03:44] <Haematoma> before the sync script is executed
[03:45] <Haematoma> I can differentiate between drives using serial no(s).
[03:45] <kdns> Haematoma: well that depends on how you detect the drive? Are you using UUId or valume label or file presence or something?
[03:45] <kdns> right, serial number :)
[03:45] <Haematoma> I'm hoping i can use udev to mount the drive from the get go...
[03:45] <Haematoma> and i just put the mount action before the script activation,
[03:46] <kdns> Haematoma: how do you do that? as in, what tool do you use to read the serial number?
[03:46] <Haematoma> udevadm info
[03:46] <orbitwhite> Haematoma, sorry if im saying something non-related but if it is mounted over uuid or label it would be easy to check this fact over grepping /proc/mounts
[03:47] <kdns> orbitwhite: that's on point mate, definitely related, I said something similar earlier :)
[03:47] <Haematoma> orbitwhite: Kk thanks. I'll have to read more about that.
[03:47] <orbitwhite> if something is not mounted, it won;t be present into there for sure
[03:47] <kdns> Haematoma: I would not try to do all this in udev scripts, I'd simply use udev to pass an argument to your script, and do most of the work in bash.
[03:48] <funtapaz> Now that was weird.
[03:48] <funtapaz> Just managed to get CUPS to eat up every bit of disk space after trying to print to an IPP printer.
[03:48] <orbitwhite> messing with system key components (is udev one? ^_^) is not a good idea until u know for sure what r u doing
[03:48] <Haematoma> kdns: Kk. Thank you for your help.
[03:49] <funtapaz> Ubuntu then failed to boot, and I had to use sysrescuecd to clear out some files in /var/spool/
[03:49] <Haematoma> orbitwhite: I'm not too worried, its an individual rule file with low priority, and the rule is to activate a script.
[03:49] <funtapaz> Anyone ever heard of something like that?
[03:49] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: it worked with the nomodeset in the grub! What does it signifies?
[03:50] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/207175/what-does-nomodeset-do
[03:50] <mribeirodantas> I just came to say it worked out afterwards :)
[03:50] <orbitwhite> Haematoma, oh ok =)
[03:50] <mribeirodantas> Thank you dr_willis and m something :$
[03:50] <mribeirodantas> malkauns:  :D
[03:50] <mribeirodantas> Good night! (it's vuln)
[03:50] <malkauns> yo
[03:51] <malkauns> got it working?
[03:53] <orbitwhite> i heard gnome devs told they will pay more attention for classic mode rather than they did for now, is that true? (soz 4 my retarded english)
[03:54] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: I haven't heard anything, but that doesn't mean much. I really haven't looked into it, because I either use Unity or Lubuntu.
[03:55] <JoeCoolDesk> When I go to install mysql I get this: http://pastebin.com/r75qCq9x
[03:56] <orbitwhite> i just got used to gnome since debian sarge and i liked it so much after they implemeted tabs in nautilus that i can't make myself to get used to something else
[03:56] <dr_willis> orbitwhite: id heard it was scheduled for removal in the next year or sommmm.
[03:56] <orbitwhite> oh god that hurts =)
[03:56] <dr_willis> im suprised its still around
[03:57] <orbitwhite> i'm using mate but i feel like its just a dirty hack for real
[03:57] <dr_willis> gnome2 in many ways was a dirty hack .. then they tried to clean it up by removeing features people wanted. :)
[03:58] <dr_willis> Then again. i rember back when the 'ximian gnome' fork came out. so im old..
[03:58] <orbitwhite> worked for me, the reason why its gone talking of interface style is that they started messing with touchscreens imho
[03:58] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: you can either try sudo dpkg --configure -a or sudo apt-get install -f and see if one of them finishes the installation.
[03:58] <JoeCoolDesk> install -f brings that same error
[03:59] <CorpSamich> Hey, would someone be able to help me with some Win8 and 12.10 problems with Dual booting?
[03:59] <orbitwhite> D:
[03:59] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: is there any other messages right before the ones you pastebinned?
[03:59] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey: Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server
[03:59] <JoeCoolDesk> For dpackage configure
[04:00] <PatrickDickey> CorpSamich: what issues are you having? Someone may be able to help out.
[04:01] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: Could you pastebin everything that you got when you originally tried to install? I mean after it downloaded the files.
[04:01] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey, sure.
[04:02] <CorpSamich> Ah, I pretty much followed everything for setting it up to dual boot like I have on my Desktop with Win7, also disabling Fast/safe boot stuff that's been put into Win8. Everything downloaded fine and installed correctly, and I can't seem to find a way to get back to Win8. The bootmanager screen that you'd normally see on Win8 doesn't appear when I restart. Anyway to fix this?
[04:03] <dr_willis> CorpSamich: so the grub menu shows no win8 entry?
[04:03] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey: http://pastebin.com/NReph3Nr
[04:03] <orbitwhite> there is a topic on google from 2009 with something similar to this apt and mysql problem and guy said it fixed things http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1126169.html thats so weird
[04:03] <PatrickDickey> CorpSamich: when you restart, does it take you to a grub menu, or just boot into ubuntu?
[04:03] <CorpSamich> Just into Ubuntu. I see my Toshiba Startup logo and then it boots directly in.
[04:03] <orbitwhite> oops, not the case
[04:07] <dr_willis> CorpSamich:  its possible windows8 is so new - you may need to add a custom entry for it in the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file
[04:07] <kfizz> I'm using "Disks" in Ubuntu 12.10 and I'm trying to set a drive to mount at start up. One of the default options is x-gvfs-show and it's an unrecognized mount option according to dmesg. What is x-gvfs-show?  Ive heard of some people breaking things badly using the gui disk mounting config tools
[04:08] <kfizz> dr_willis, that was my 2nd choice and what I was planning on eventually doing. I had just never seen x-gvfs-show before as a mount option and wasn't sure what it did.
[04:09] <jakepiano> well i have another problem with the ethernet. it was working about an hour ago and now its not recognizing at all. how do i fix it again?
[04:09] <PatrickDickey> Well that was a fun flight out the door. LOL :S
[04:10] <Sylphie> jakepiano, a fix that only lasts an hour maybe wasn't really fixed
[04:11] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: has anyone else given you any suggestions? I crashed right after you pastebinned the second link.
[04:11] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey, no.  Mysql told me to come here.
[04:11] <JoeCoolDesk> http://pastebin.com/NReph3Nr
[04:11] <orbitwhite> JoeCoolDesk, i found exactly similar case like urs, eventually dude built the package my hands from sources and it worked, i'm 100% positive it is ur case
[04:11] <PatrickDickey> Well, what I see is "ERROR: There's not enough space in /var/lib/mysql/" which tells me that your drive might be full.
[04:11] <JoeCoolDesk> orbitwhite: link?
[04:11] <jakepiano> Sylphie no it was working for the past couple days. it just stopped all of a sudden
[04:12] <orbitwhite> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=195523.0
[04:12] <orbitwhite> russian
[04:12] <c2tarun> hi friends, can anyone please tell me how to disable default bluetooth app in ubuntu 12.04 and make blueman as default. I am having two bluetooth apps working right now. http://imagebin.org/242960
[04:12] <graft> hey does anyone know how to install computer modern as a font?
[04:12] <modifier> how to add backup created by aptoncd as repository rather than restoring it to apt ?
[04:12] <orbitwhite> same guy another forum, russian
[04:12] <orbitwhite> http://www.linux.org.ru/forum/admin/7898528#comments
[04:12] <Sylphie> jakepiano, what was the problem?
[04:12] <c2tarun> Startup application is not showing system bluetooth application
[04:12] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  one may be auto starting from /etc/xdg/autostart  (I think) thats the ssytem wide autostart directory.
[04:12] <PatrickDickey> !font | graft
[04:13] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  those are hidden from the users auto start config tools
[04:13] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey, any way to see disk usage in CLI?
[04:13] <Sylphie> JoeCoolDesk \ "df"
[04:13] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: du is the tool. Do you not have a desktop installed?
[04:13] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey, it's a server.
[04:13] <kdns> For those who were helping me, thanks very much, I found that the messages were created by the daily and weekly cron scripts, and if nullmailer is not present, the messages are not only not sent, but not created (as nullmailer provides the method for the messages to be placed in the queue, without it, the cron script can't create the messages)
[04:14] <kdns> so purging nulmailer was my solution.
[04:14] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: Sylphie's response is better.
[04:14] <jakepiano> Sylphie well i was connected to the internet via ethernet and i was running a virtual box, it had a freeze for a moment and then the internet wasn't working at all. once i restarted the computer the ethernet wasn't showing up at all. i just need to know how to get it back to functionality
[04:15] <c2tarun> dr_willis, ok, I have these in that directory: blueman.desktop  bluetooth-applet.desktop  bluetooth-applet-unity.desktop   I think deleting or rename last two will do the job right?
[04:15] <daftykins> jakepiano: do you get anything from 'ifconfig -a' in a terminal?
[04:15] <Sylphie> jakepiano, so you are running linux from a VM of windows?
[04:15] <JoeCoolDesk> Well how about that, no disk space.
[04:15] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  i normally make a autorun.disabled in the parent directory and move them there.
[04:15] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: sudo apt-get autoclean will help with that.
[04:15] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, bring us ur lspci please
[04:15] <jakepiano> Sylphie no i have linux as the primary os
[04:15] <modifier> how to add backup created by aptoncd as repository rather than restoring it to apt ?
[04:16] <c2tarun> dr_willis, good idea, thanks :)
[04:16] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: Maybe, but it might not work, since you're in the middle of a failed installation.
[04:16] <jakepiano> daftykins the eth0 doesn't show up
[04:16] <jakepiano> daftykins just lo and lan0
[04:16] <Sylphie> jakepiano, do you have a hub or switch with lights to tell whether you are connected?
[04:16] <jakepiano> orbitwhite whats that?
[04:16] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: do you see an indicator for the network in your panel? Either two arrows or a pie slice?
[04:17] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, `lspci` says what devices u have on pci bus including ur network controller
[04:17] <daftykins> jakepiano: this is the host OS ja?
[04:17] <jakepiano> Sylphie yeah the hub has a orange and green light that are lit whether its plugged in or not
[04:18] <orbitwhite> after what i would check if everything is fine with module by grepping it through dmesg log
[04:18] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey no i don't. i know it should be there but its not at all
[04:18] <jakepiano> daftykins yes linux is the host
[04:18] <orbitwhite> could u please show us `lspci` command output?
[04:18] <modifier> anyone - how to add backup created by aptoncd as repository rather than restoring it to apt ??
[04:18] <Sylphie> jakepiano, so if the lights are lit that means you are connected hardware-wise, just something is being lost in the software
[04:19] <JoeCoolDesk> Alright, mysql running.  But now my sites are blank.
[04:19] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: not a problem. pastebin the results of lspci then. We'll help you from there.
[04:19] <orbitwhite> :/
[04:19] <daftykins> jakepiano: ja pastebin the 'lspci' output for the others then
[04:19] <jakepiano> Sylphie yes i believe so.
[04:19] <PatrickDickey> modifier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD may help.
[04:20] <jakepiano> i haven't done a pastebin before what do i do?
[04:20] <dr_willis> !pastebinit
[04:20]  * orbitwhite :-* ubottu
[04:20] <PatrickDickey> Um, shoot....  He won't be able to pastebin, since he doesn't have Internet.
[04:20] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:20] <jakepiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533310/
[04:20] <jakepiano> here it is
[04:20] <orbitwhite> he has irc how comes he doesn't have internet
[04:21] <jakepiano> all i typed in to the command was lspci. is that right?
[04:21] <Sylphie> because it's inside a VM
[04:21] <jakepiano> and no i'm not running linux from a vm
[04:21] <jakepiano> its the host
[04:21] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, the problem is with a wired network interface right?
[04:21] <kdns> Good lord, does nobody f***ing google before they come in here?
[04:21] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: You're connected via wireless right now. "lan0" is probably your wireless connection.
[04:22] <orbitwhite> i can't see the wired one =)
[04:22] <kdns> The topic should say: If you haven't googled your problem for at least three hours, go away.
[04:22] <daftykins> kdns: you're shocked? :)
[04:22] <jakepiano> yes it is. but i need to connect to the the internet
[04:22] <jakepiano> orbitwhite yes i believe so
[04:22] <Sylphie> kdns, sometimes you don't know the right question to search for
[04:22] <kdns> daftykins: LOL yeh totally dude... it's been like this in here since forever... I guess it never ceases to amaze me.
[04:22] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, it is a very bad sign, bring us ur `dmesg`
[04:23] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: You need what connected to the Internet? I realize that sounds strange, but if you're on the computer right now, it IS connected to the Internet.
[04:23] <daftykins> definitely no wired interface there
[04:23] <kdns> Sylphie: of course! :D google doesn't answer everything. But it certainly has the answer to 90% of the issues in here.
[04:23] <orbitwhite> he needs his wired interface working i assume
[04:23] <blkadder> You sure?
[04:24] <blkadder> Perhaps it would be easier for all involved if none of the interfaces worked.
[04:24] <orbitwhite> in ur case too
[04:24] <jakepiano> yes i know its connected to the internet. i want to connect via the ethernet port. the university's wifi is very slow. wired is a lot faster.
[04:24] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: if you haven't seen the other requests, could you pastebin the results of dmesg please?
[04:24] <orbitwhite> i suspect we won't see anything interesting in dmesg and ethernet is dead =)
[04:25] <jakepiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533317/
[04:25] <jakepiano> well i had this problem when i first installed ubuntu and it got fixed but i can't remember how. it was through a few commands and downloads
[04:25] <Sylphie> jakepiano, was this a builtin ethernet port, or an addon card?
[04:26] <orbitwhite> motherboard or laptop model at least
[04:27] <jakepiano> it was built in and its built in
[04:27] <jakepiano> sorry its built in and on a laptop
[04:27] <orbitwhite> laptop model plz
[04:27] <jakepiano> i'm on a lenovo g480
[04:27] <orbitwhite> thx
[04:27] <Sylphie> jakepiano, if it's builtin, it's possible it might have gotten shut off in the bios (theoretically)
[04:28] <jakepiano> i checked the bios already. enabled and renabled it. still not working
[04:29] <daftykins> orbitwhite: atheros?
[04:29] <Sylphie> jakepiano, strange, if it wasn't functioning it shouldn't be lighting the switch
[04:30] <orbitwhite> daftykins, AR8162
[04:30] <jakepiano> yeah its really weird. i'm not sure whats going on.
[04:30] <daftykins> Sylphie: they can be broken permanently lit too
[04:30] <jakepiano> well nothing i did messed it up i hope. the only thing i was doing was running windows on a virtual box when it stopped working
[04:31] <PatrickDickey> jake, do you have the vm running right now?
[04:31] <daftykins> orbitwhite: worth grep'ing his 'history' maybe?
[04:31] <daftykins> orbitwhite: since he fixed it already once
[04:31] <orbitwhite> people complain about it saying latest compat-wireless solves the problem but its weird that we don't see the device on the list
[04:31] <JoeCoolDesk> Thanks PatrickDickey, site's back up.
[04:31] <PatrickDickey> Awesome JoeCoolDesk. :)
[04:31] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: do you have the virtual machine running right now?
[04:32] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey no i'm not
[04:32] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ as a workaround, does your Lenovo have any pcm slots for an addon ethernet which could be really cheap
[04:32] <jakepiano> pcm?
[04:32] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: try starting it, and see what happens. (Yes, I have odd solutions)
[04:32] <PatrickDickey> The little slot on the side of the laptop. PCMCIA slot.
[04:33] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ pcmcia or cardbus, those credit card sized ethernet cards
[04:33] <jakepiano> no i don't
[04:34] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ I thought pcm slots came standard on laptops. shame on Lenovo
[04:34] <orbitwhite> that is weird, i have blanks in my knowledges but is it possible due to lack of some firmware that we don't see the device on simple `lspci` output?
[04:34] <RomperStomp> patrick i went to ubuntu-phone no one is answering my question about putting ubuntu on my samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1" the channel seems dead
[04:34] <orbitwhite> but atheros is kinda *opensource* chipset
[04:34] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: I think it's tied into the wireless. The wired is an Atheros NIC.
[04:34] <jakepiano> so is there anything to fix the ethernet? or is it just dead?
[04:35] <PatrickDickey> RomperStomp: I don't know what to tell you. That's where they're working on it at. Sorry.
[04:35] <orbitwhite> PatrickDickey, 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[04:35] <orbitwhite> i suspect its not possible
[04:35] <daftykins> pretty sure wireless and wired chips are never the same
[04:35] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ if it is dead and you have no pcm slots, there's always usb ethernet
[04:36] <logi> hi
[04:36] <daftykins> Sylphie: PCMCIA has been dead for years. PC Express cards are rare as nobody really used them. planning for the hardware to be dead so quickly and easily is a terrible comment to a user :P
[04:36] <arussel> Hi, is there a ip blacklisting package for apache ? somethign that would get blacklisted IPs from a server and add them to my deny host of apache.
[04:36] <logi> who can help me? i'am having a problem installing ubuntu
[04:37] <logi> someone?>
[04:37] <jakepiano> so is there nothing to fix it? i fixed it before. i'm not sure why we can't fix it now
[04:37] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: try sudo lshw -C network and pastebin the results please.
[04:37] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ I'd recommend the Asix ax88178 usb ethernet, as long as you're are using the newest drivers. even slightly old drivers and it won't work
[04:37] <orbitwhite> `lshw -C network`
[04:38] <blkadder> arussel: There might be but it would be pretty trivial to implement yourself.
[04:38] <logi> somebody who can help me?
[04:38] <somsip> arussel: you could try something like this and there are a few variants: http://perishablepress.com/ultimate-htaccess-blacklist/
[04:38] <orbitwhite> logi, what is the problem?
[04:38] <logi> i cant install ubuntu
[04:38] <orbitwhite> that is not the problem
[04:38] <logi> i am trying to install 12.10
[04:38] <jakepiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533345/
[04:39] <PatrickDickey> logi, a little more information is needed. How are you trying to install it, and what kind of errors are you getting?
[04:39] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, `lshw -C network`
[04:39] <logi> when it finishes loading some files at the beginning it will boot me to a black screen
[04:39] <arussel> somsip: thanks for the link
[04:40] <jakepiano> its posted
[04:40] <logi> i use USB btw
[04:40] <PatrickDickey> logi, Try pressing CTRL + Alt+ F1 and tell us if it brings you to a prompt.
[04:40] <somsip> arussel: no worries. Personally I find these to be too much and quite out of date. I'd recommend Fail2Ban
[04:40] <logi> ok i'll try
[04:40] <arussel> blkadder: probably, but I'm a dev, not a sys ad, and this is for a site already in prod, too many chances I screw somehting :-)
[04:40] <orbitwhite> logi, nothing u can see on black screen after bios messages? any wornings or errors during installation process?
[04:40] <phunyguy> can anyone help me with a linux ping command question? I can't seem to tell it to wait 30 seconds for a response, before failing and returning it's failure error code. I tried the -w and -W command line options, and it still ignores that, failing after a few seconds.
[04:41] <Sylphie> phunyguy \ "ping -t timeoutinseconds"
[04:42] <phunyguy> I have a keepalive script for sshfs, which relies on that ping to see if the network is active.  If not, it kills the sshfs process as to not lock up the system, and free up resources.  When copying files, it creates enough latency to make a ping timeout, therefore killing the connection
[04:43] <phunyguy> Sylphie, I was under the impression that was "ttl", which is how many hops to take before failing
[04:43] <phunyguy> (router hops)
[04:43] <jakepiano> alright well if theres nothing else that can be done thanks for the analysis
[04:43] <blkadder> ttl = time to live
[04:43] <Sylphie> phunyguy \ I thought ttl was "-m"
[04:43] <phunyguy> maybe I read the wrong man page
[04:43] <phunyguy> nope, -t did nothing
[04:44] <Sylphie> oh well
[04:44] <phunyguy> -m is mark
[04:44] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: you could try rebooting again, without the ethernet cable plugged in. Then reboot once with it plugged in. (I'll admit I'm going through things I've done in the past).
[04:44] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ if do you can some way to boot windows w/o a VM?
[04:45] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey yeah ive tried it but i can do it again
[04:45] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, `lshw -C network`
[04:45] <orbitwhite> u forgot that "network" part
[04:45] <jakepiano> Sylphie no not really. i've gone through hell to try and get both working and i finally did, but now with the ethernet not working i'm frustrated
[04:45] <orbitwhite> thats where we stucked
[04:46] <Sylphie> So Jake's ethernet isn't on lspci or lshw?
[04:46] <orbitwhite> we still have to make sure =)
[04:46] <logi> i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 but nothing happened
[04:46] <jakepiano> orbitwhite http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533362/
[04:47] <orbitwhite> now we're sure there is no one
[04:47] <logi> please someone help me
[04:47] <orbitwhite> and it is dead or it is some sort of hardware fail
[04:47] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: one site I found recommends installing fping instead of ping.
[04:47] <Sylphie> some ethernet cards need a firmware download at boot time
[04:48] <jakepiano> orbitwhite well i had it working an hour ago so i'm assuming its a hardware or software fail
[04:48] <orbitwhite> Sylphie, it is atheros card
[04:48] <phunyguy> oooh cool, thanks, let me try that, PatrickDickey
[04:48] <logi> hi patrick
[04:48] <logi> i did what u told me
[04:48] <logi> but nothing happend
[04:48] <jakepiano> orbitwhite what firmware download could i get
[04:48] <logi> any suggestions??
[04:48] <apocalysque> anyone have any luck getting ubuntu 12.04 to work on PPC?  getting stuck @ boot @ a screen says "calling quiesce" using live boot option.  how can i log the boot to found out what problem is?
[04:48] <PatrickDickey> Hi logi.I saw that. When you did the install, did it actually get to the point where it said "Installation complete. You must reboot the system."
[04:49] <logi> no
[04:49] <orbitwhite> i'm a bit stucked into old times but lenovo wasn't friendly for linux as i remember however atheros was always close to opensource world
[04:49] <logi> i am stucked at the beginning
[04:49] <orbitwhite> and they gave up everything necessary to develop opensource drivers so i doubt there is some lack of firmware for it
[04:49] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ One solution I've seen for atheros ethernet is to use ndiswapper
[04:49] <PatrickDickey> logi, so it never even started to install? You haven't even got to the "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu" screen?
[04:50] <jakepiano> ndiswapper?
[04:50] <kdns> jakepiano: maybe try a live USB distro to see if it is hardware or software...?
[04:50] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ ndiswrapper (sorry) in conjunction with a windows driver
[04:50] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: change the network to bridge on the lshw command, and pastebin that please? (On my system, my wired is under bridge --not network)
[04:50] <logi> yeah i got there, then i clicked install Ubuntu then it will load some files right? after that the screen will be black
[04:51] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey what exactly is that command?
[04:51] <PatrickDickey> logi, try rebooting and choose "Try Ubuntu"
[04:51] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: lshw -C bridge
[04:51] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: sudo lshw -C bridge sorry (it will want to be ran as root)
[04:52] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533372/
[04:53] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ if all else fails maybe you could try "ndiswrapper" along with the windows driver
[04:53] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, do u windows on dual boot on ur laptop?
[04:53] <jakepiano> yeah i could try it
[04:53] <orbitwhite> just curious if it works at all
[04:53] <jakepiano> orbitwhite i have windows as a vm
[04:54] <PatrickDickey> ok, I'm at a loss now. jakepiano. You could try booting back into a Live CD, and see if it finds your wired. If it does, then you know it's something with your current installation. If not, then it *could* be hardware related.
[04:54] <jakepiano> alright well i'll see what i can do then
[04:55] <orbitwhite> google says ethernet card on his laptop should be on lspci
[04:55] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: if you boot to a Live CD, do lspci again, and look to see if it shows both connectors. You can also do the sudo lshw -C network as well.
[04:55] <orbitwhite> no doubts
[04:55] <orbitwhite> lspci -nn | grep 0200
[04:55] <orbitwhite> but it is not present and dmesg was keeping silence for all the time
[04:56] <orbitwhite> i bet at this current moment it doesn't work physically due to some hardware related reasons
[04:57] <logi> hey patrick.. i do not hve the option "try ubuntu" I only have "livemode","Install","File integrity check" and "memory test"
[04:57] <PatrickDickey> I'm thinking it's something to do with virtualbox and when that crashed. Maybe ubuntu is still thinking it's a virtual bridge. But, I'm not sure how to find out.
[04:57] <PatrickDickey> logi which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[04:57] <orbitwhite> those r separate things
[04:57] <orbitwhite> nothing related to virtualbox
[04:57] <logi> 12.10 desktop AMD64
[04:58] <PatrickDickey> logi, first do the integrity test, and then "live mode".
[04:58] <Brombomb> I'm running server at home as a media server (DLNA, UPnP).  Is there a way to play audio out to a connected speaker system?
[04:58] <PatrickDickey> logi, you are running a 64-bit computer, right?
[04:58] <Hwkiller> does gwibber's facebook feed work for anyone here in 12.10?
[04:58] <logi> yes
[04:59] <PatrickDickey> Hwkiller: do you have the account authorized in "Online Accounts" (Settings > Online Accounts)
[04:59] <logi> it boots me to a black screen
[04:59] <logi> what should i do?
[05:00] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[05:00] <PatrickDickey> logi, do you mean when you try live mode? or when you try the integrity test?
[05:00] <orbitwhite> something with video mode
[05:00] <logi> integrity test
[05:00] <orbitwhite> yeah nomodset again maybe hah
[05:00] <PatrickDickey> dr_willis: how would he get that to work in the installer (Live DVD)?
[05:00] <Hwkiller> PatrickDickey: yeah; i've also tried removing all configuration and trying again; removing config from facebook itself
[05:00] <Hwkiller> nothing works
[05:01] <dr_willis> PatrickDickey:  i beluve the url shows how to get into the options screen from the cd.
[05:01] <dr_willis> space at the man=keyboard icon, then F5
[05:01] <PatrickDickey> dr_willis: ok. I hadn't read it.
[05:02] <PatrickDickey> Hwkiller: I'm not sure then. I haven't used Gwibber with facebook statuses. Only empathy with my facebook messenger.
[05:02] <logi> hey patrick..my monitor ledlight is blinking
[05:02] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: do you have a music application installed on the server?
[05:02] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, so far so good!  Thanks!~
[05:03] <PatrickDickey> logi: did you check the link that dr_willis gave you? !nomodeset It might be the solution to your problem.
[05:03] <Brombomb> PatrickDickey: I have music files on the server, and DLNA apps (plex/mediatomb)
[05:03] <PatrickDickey> logi: you can type !nomodeset to get the link again.
[05:03] <Brombomb> It's a headless/cli only server
[05:04] <Brombomb> so no
[05:04] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, u can use some console player of ur own choice
[05:04] <Brombomb> but I need something that I can control via UPnP/DLNA any reccomendations?
[05:05] <Brombomb> preferrably with an Android device
[05:05] <orbitwhite> oh, now i got it, i only heard about dlna but maybe some player with web interface could fit :/
[05:05] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=command%20line%20music%20players%20ubuntu&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=4ed87bf74c3b6306&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41018144,d.aWM&biw=1624&bih=891 should give you a start.
[05:06] <PatrickDickey> So, you don't want to play the music through the server. You need a compatible player for your other computer?
[05:06] <Brombomb> I want to play the music off the server but remote control it through an interface (web/mobile)
[05:07] <orbitwhite> from the context i assumed that dlna protocol allows to control player remotely, the player itself needs to be run on media server
[05:07] <henry_> hello
[05:07] <orbitwhite> so android box will act as a remote
[05:08] <henry_> I'm having issues installing nodefront and roots(both won't download), can someone help me?
[05:08] <PatrickDickey> henry_: how are you trying to download them, and what messages do you get when you try?
[05:09] <henry_> I'm using npm install -g nodefront(roots)
[05:09] <henry_> i get issues with js-yaml1.0.3 not being installed(for nodefront) and a couple other errors
[05:09] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: one of your dlna/ apps should have a configuration for remote access. Then you just need to find a DLNA remote app for your android device.
[05:10] <PatrickDickey> henry_: could you pastebin the exact messages you get from when you try npm install -g nodefront(roots) to the end?
[05:10] <henry_> yupp
[05:10] <henry_> 1 moment
[05:10] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, im totally lost and not sure, but maybe u should look at vlc features
[05:11] <Brombomb> thanks for the suggestions guys
[05:12] <logi> PatrickDickey
[05:12] <logi> what are you saying a while back?
[05:12] <PatrickDickey> No problem Brombomb. Sorry we couldn't be more help. There might be a channel for dlna on here though.
[05:12] <logi> hows the !nomodeset?
[05:12] <Brombomb> good idea!
[05:12] <PatrickDickey> !nomodeset | logi this is what was suggested that you try.
[05:12] <Brombomb> I also asked in the #ubuntu-server channel
[05:13] <henry_> PatrickDickey: http://pastebin.com/8gJLFi2D
[05:13] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, is that something that fits? http://ushare.geexbox.org/
[05:14] <logi> i dont get :D
[05:14] <logi> can you explain in to me
[05:14] <Brombomb> this works out.... As in shares media from server to device...
[05:15] <Brombomb> I need the other direction
[05:15] <orbitwhite> so it should be sortadlna hub that works in both directions right?
[05:15] <logi> i'll just select nomodeset from the F6 menu?
[05:15] <Brombomb> ya more or less....
[05:16] <Brombomb> I've got it serving up media just fine
[05:16] <Brombomb> now I want it to accept "commands" (play/pause) to play the content locally... and come out of speakers attached to the server
[05:17] <henry_> PatrickDickey: My friend has also attempted to manually install js-yaml(before i reinstalled Ubuntu 12.10)
[05:17] <henry_> PatrickDickey: Even after fresh install of Ubuntu 12.10 it still doesn't want to install for the same reason
[05:17] <logi> patrick what should I do now?
[05:18] <Hannofcart> This is slightly offtopic but I don't know where else to ask... I just installed the Athena Widget library (libXaw7 and libXaw7-dev) which I need for devloping an application. However, I find that libXaw.so installed in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu has no symbols defined in it
[05:18] <Hannofcart> Why?!
[05:19] <logi> should i select acpi=off?
[05:21] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, appears that basically there are DLNA server, DLNA player and DLNA control point which connects first two in various directions, looks like MiniDLNA fits
[05:21] <PatrickDickey> henry_: You might be able to get more help in /join #node.js
[05:21] <dr_willis> Dlna is fun. ;)
[05:22] <henry_> ok will do thank you
[05:22] <dr_willis> minidlna and ushare are both handy if you need a simple dlna server
[05:22] <logi> do i need to do some typing of commands?
[05:22] <PatrickDickey> logi, yes. One second, and I'll look at the link I gave you to make sure of what to do.
[05:23] <logi> ok thanks, you're great :D
[05:23] <orbitwhite> dr_willis, so if there is a NAS stock with MiniDLNA, plasma and android phone, can i show what i filmed with my phone on tv holding only phone in my hands?
[05:23] <ripthejacker> how do i add apps to notification tray whitelist using dconf or gsettings
[05:24] <PatrickDickey> logi: on the page that ubottu gave you, do you see where it says to enable it on the Live CD?
[05:24] <PatrickDickey> How to enable kernel options on the livecd (before install)
[05:24] <bluebomber> I have an LG Blu-Ray burner drive that reads and burns CD-Rs and DVD+Rs fine in Ubuntu (using Brasero), and it recognizes a BD-R disc inserted, but cannot burn to it. Can anyone help?
[05:25] <logi> yeah
[05:25] <logi> then?
[05:25] <ripthejacker> please help how to edit dconf ?
[05:25] <orbitwhite> bluebomber, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[05:25] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  Hmm.. I got an Xios ARM based HTPC-micro box the other day. It does DLNA via xbmc, and has android 4.0.4 i bevlive
[05:25] <PatrickDickey> logi: When you get to the screen that has "live mode" "install" etc, that's where you'll Press F6. You should see the option of "nomodeset" there. Click it, then click whichever option you want above (Live mode or install).
[05:26] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  i got xbmc onmy android phone and tablets now also
[05:26] <logi> i was redirected to the ubuntu logo with moving dots below it
[05:26] <orbitwhite> dr_willis, so dlna allows u to stream something from one device to another? D:
[05:27] <PatrickDickey> logi, did you get to that screen at all before?
[05:27] <orbitwhite> like from tablet#1 to phone
[05:27] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  i stream from one xbmc box to the other  all the time.
[05:27] <orbitwhite> and backwards
[05:27] <logi> and then an error message says "could not load file..... " i cannot see it clearly cause it is so fast
[05:27] <logi> i did
[05:28] <dr_willis> dlna = upnp -  a video 'streaming' service ..
[05:28] <logi> and my screen will be black again
[05:28] <PatrickDickey> Is it black now?
[05:28]  * orbitwhite gone to read about dlna protocol i can't understand what it does and why, wtf why not to mount something and listen from there lol
[05:29] <logi> yeah and my monitor's led is blinking
[05:29] <logi> i have no response
[05:29]  * PatrickDickey thought about setting dlna up on my home server...
[05:29] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  mount how? :) it replaces the need to mount. since things can appear/vanish on the fly.
[05:29]  * ripthejacker needs help editinf dconf or gsettings
[05:30] <ripthejacker> *editing
[05:30] <orbitwhite> why someone needs replace for mount :/
[05:30] <dr_willis> My android phone connects to teh  home network. I can have it play a video from thephone to the tv via dlna
[05:30] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  ever have a mounted network server disconnect?
[05:30] <orbitwhite> oh thats what i was asking about
[05:30] <orbitwhite> now i got it
[05:30] <PatrickDickey> logi, The only other thing I can suggest is downloading a different DVD. The Alternate or Server DVD, or Minimal install DVD, and installing from that. When you burn it, make sure you set the burn speed to the LOWEST setting.  You can always install ubuntu-desktop afterwards.
[05:30] <dr_willis> Samsung calls their dlna stuff 'allshare'
[05:30] <Brombomb> but I have my server hosting the content so I can get it on my phone/ps3/tv
[05:30] <orbitwhite> no i never had mounted server to disconnect
[05:31] <orbitwhite> i got serious vpn network around everywhere in my place
[05:31] <ripthejacker> please help with dconf
[05:31] <logi> how about havin it installed through USB?
[05:31] <orbitwhite> resistant to disconnects lol
[05:31] <Brombomb> but what I want now is to have the content on the server, play locally on that server, but control it with my devices (android, ps3 etc)
[05:31] <logi> can you suggest any bootable USB maker?
[05:31] <Brombomb> what OS logi
[05:31] <logi> ubuntu 12.10
[05:31] <logi> desktop amd64
[05:32] <dr_willis> logi:  dozens of linux to usb tools at the 'pendrivelinux'  web site
[05:32] <dr_willis> logi:  or you can image teh iso straight to USB
[05:32] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: He's trying to install Ubuntu 12.10, but it won't load the installer. It just goes to a black screen--regardless of what he does.
[05:32] <logi> how's that?
[05:32] <PatrickDickey> !unetbootin | logi this is what I use to make bootable USB Drives
[05:33] <logi> it says, file could not be loaded... etc
[05:33] <orbitwhite> unetbootin also works fine
[05:33] <PatrickDickey> I think it might be a bad DVD burn, myself. Even the integrity check won't load up.
[05:33] <logi> does ubuntu have issues with AMD FM2's?
[05:34] <orbitwhite> i heard something about amd issues with windows
[05:34] <orbitwhite> windows issues with amd*
[05:34] <logi> btw patrick thank you :D
[05:34] <logi> what about ubuntu?
[05:35] <orbitwhite> everything should be great when it comes to basic components support such as cpu
[05:35] <PatrickDickey> logi, you could always try 12.04 and get it installed. Then upgrade to 12.10 from there.
[05:35] <orbitwhite> especially cpus and memory
[05:35] <logi> ok maybe i could download another one
[05:35] <logi> thanks :D
[05:36] <PatrickDickey> No problem. Like I said before, burn it at whatever the slowest speed possible is.
[05:36] <orbitwhite> there is something wrong with installation process or media u install from
[05:36] <orbitwhite> consider some "unetbootin" as an option
[05:36] <logi> i think my installer is corrupted or something
[05:37] <Brombomb> gotta love using a 55" TV as a monitor
[05:37] <orbitwhite> logi, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:37] <logi> hey guys. what do you think about the LTS?
[05:37] <logi> that's the one I used :D
[05:37] <orbitwhite> lts is for long term support
[05:37] <logi> thanks orbit
[05:38] <logi> what about that?
[05:38] <PatrickDickey> That's what I'm recommending you try.
[05:38] <logi> oh i see
[05:38] <PatrickDickey> 12.04 is the LTS, and then 14.04 will be the next one.
[05:38] <logi> oh ok.
[05:39] <logi> actually this is my first time to use open source os thats why i have many questions
[05:39] <PatrickDickey> logi: Personally, I'd stay on it for a bit also. At least until you know everything's working right. Then you can always upgrade.
[05:39] <orbitwhite> logi, there would be much more later, don't worry about it
[05:40] <logi> yeah. everyone's moving to open source