[09:17] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: it's cool I am just going to reinstall anyway
[09:17] <Herpaderpa> llutz_: did that
[09:17] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: the cureall
[09:18] <Herpaderpa> fstab has the correct uuid, grub is installed correctly or else it would even boot
[09:18] <Herpaderpa> wouldnt*
[09:18] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: indeed. It will be nice if somebody finds a fix one day (or AMD includes it in their linux drivers) for hybrid graphics
[09:18] <Herpaderpa> the kernel just hangs
[09:18] <llutz_> Herpaderpa: checked the "set root" lines in grub.cfg?
[09:18] <Herpaderpa> md5 of the kernel files on both drives is the same
[09:19] <Herpaderpa> there are no smart errors on either drive
[09:19] <howoriginalAU> I must admit it is shallow of me to want a pretty desktop haha
[09:19] <Herpaderpa> llutz: checking that now
[09:19] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: haha!
[09:19] <llutz_> Herpaderpa: compare with UUIDs from blkid
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> set root='(hd0,1)'
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> which is what it should be
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> uuid is correct
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> grub isnt even the problem
[09:20] <Herpaderpa> grub boots the kernel fine
[09:20] <demon> i dont have wi-fi on my ubuntu 10.10...how can i enable/install it??? please reply...
[09:21] <Myrtti> Herpaderpa: please don't use enter as a replacement for your broken comma
[09:21] <jiltdil> IS Amd gpu is better option for laptop having linux?
[09:21] <Herpaderpa> Myrtti: when I'm upset I get trigger happy
[09:22] <llutz_> Herpaderpa: yes and then it hangs. so it _might_ give a wrong "root" statement to the kernel
[09:28] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: I think I might have broken my windows install for good too - after testing recovery cd's to make sure they reinstalled windows
[09:29] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: I wiped the drive to install linux. now I'm trying to do another dual boot (reinstalling windows) and it won't do it hahahahahha. It's only a couple of months old this laptop as well. Well done me, well done
[09:29] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: wow...
[09:29] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: yeah I know, sucks right
[09:30] <dwatkins> howoriginalAU: did you install Windows after Linux?
[09:30] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I wouldn't normally say this, but you could get a copy of windows...
[09:30] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: if you know what I mean ;)
[09:30] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: lol maybe not just yet!
[09:31] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: I mean you already bought it.
[09:31] <howoriginalAU> dwatkins: Nah what I'm doing is a clean install of windows first before reinstalling linux, but it won't do the windows part haha. Stuck on step 1! but that's not for this forum sorry, I'll keep it linux based :)
[09:31] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: haha I think it's ok, I can figure it out!
[09:32] <dwatkins> ah i see, howoriginalAU
[09:32] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: good luck to you!
[09:32] <howoriginalAU> dwatkins: thanks for the input though, appreciate you chiming in :)
[09:32] <relm> exit
[09:32] <relm> ;)
[09:33] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: cheers haha, I think I might have solved it anyway, HP did its driveguard thing for some reason and stopped the hard drive spinning, which caused the CD's to stop writing....
[09:33] <howoriginalAU> Ah computers...I probably shouldn't mention that I work with computers for a living lol
[09:33] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: weird
[09:34] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: haha!
[09:34] <Herpaderpa> what sucks is that dmesg is even written
[09:35] <Herpaderpa> isn't*
[09:35] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: all windows based unfortunately, no linux. I like Ubuntu, people seem to give it a bad rap but I like what you can do with it (you can probably do it all in Windows too but it seems to be easier in ubuntu)
[09:35] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: linux is way more fun!
[09:36] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: It is, I will agree
[09:36] <howoriginalAU> the only hard part is because I work with computers, most of the time I can't be bothered playing with them when I get home (unfortunately)
[09:37] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: yeah, that's one of the reasons I didn't want a computer job.
[09:37] <sh0ckw4ve> whaat , now why the heck did i join this channel
[09:37] <sh0ckw4ve> i dont even use bun too
[09:37] <howoriginalAU> rootworm: well maybe you just wanted to have a chat :)
[09:37] <themonitor> rootworm: drunk?
[09:38] <howoriginalAU> themonitor: "I can't drink because I've had too much to drive!!"
[09:38] <themonitor> howoriginalAU: haha!
[09:39] <multiHYP> i asked this a while ago, openJDK7 seems to be taking a lot of space. is there an alternative to run jetty and some simple java apps?
[09:39] <elky> Hi all, this appears to be a non-support conversation. It would be better off in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <howoriginalAU> elky: sorry, got carried away.
[09:39] <themonitor> elky: sorry
[09:40] <multiHYP> just don't DUI!
[09:40] <multiHYP> so how big is jdk7?
[09:40] <rootworm> kind of stoned
[09:40] <rootworm> heh as usual
[09:41] <rootworm> whats we tawkin bout
[09:41] <multiHYP> jdk7
[09:41] <multiHYP> is huge, isn't it?
[09:41] <rootworm> ooh right i want a card for me moms surprise gift item
[09:41] <elky> rootworm, chit-chat is better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:41] <rootworm> pls help
[09:41] <rootworm> kewl
[09:41] <rootworm> i didnt know it existed
[09:41] <rootworm> on my way ther now
[09:41] <multiHYP> wtf, i get anything except ubuntu discussion here?
[09:42] <llutz_> multiHYP: it's weekend, kids are only :(
[09:42] <elky> multiHYP, i'm trying to fix that.
[09:42] <multiHYP> oh i see
[09:42] <multiHYP> yeah weekend
[09:42] <JerryKwan> could anybody tell me the password of ubuntu image?
[09:42] <llutz_> online*
[09:42] <multiHYP> root
[09:43] <JerryKwan> multiHYP: roo??
[09:43] <multiHYP> is it possible to reduce the size of jdk7?
[09:43] <multiHYP> yes, try root JerryKwan
[09:43] <JerryKwan> multiHYP: root?
[09:43] <themonitor> multiHYP: delete it
[09:43] <multiHYP> themonitor: i need to be able to run jetty 8
[09:43] <multiHYP> so some kind of java is required.
[09:43] <themonitor> multiHYP: I was trying to be funny, sorry,
[09:43] <multiHYP> oh
[09:44] <multiHYP> i guess i am in weekend mode too
[09:44] <themonitor> time for bed. later everyone!
[09:45] <JerryKwan> multiHYP: sorry, i can not log in as ubuntu/root
[09:45] <multiHYP> JerryKwan: its your ubuntu, how are we supposed to know the password to it?
[09:45] <JerryKwan> i download the oneiric-desktop-cloudimg-i386 image from ubuntu
[09:46] <multiHYP> does it say anywhere on the site you got that image?
[09:46] <multiHYP> where did you get that image?
[09:46] <Fargh> hi fella's
[09:46] <JerryKwan> multiHYP:　from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current/
[09:46] <Fargh> i have a small problem with ubuntu wireless
[09:47] <Fargh> its slow ...
[09:47] <multiHYP> why did you get it?
[09:47] <meet> will ubuntu 10..10will ubuntu 10..10 work better than winxp on 512 mb ram
[09:47] <Fargh> a ing to the router takes 1500ms on average
[09:47] <multiHYP> i mean its not the usual way of obtaining ubuntu
[09:47] <Fargh> if i use cable it is 0.5ms
[09:47] <JerryKwan> just for test in openstack env
[09:47] <multiHYP> meet: not anymore
[09:47] <Fargh> anyone ideas ?
[09:48] <Fargh> a ping to the router takes 1500ms on average
[09:48] <meet> multiHYP why?
[09:48] <multiHYP> oh 10 i am not sure, but latest version requires GPU
[09:48] <multiHYP> where as XP is still happy with integrated.
[09:48] <multiHYP> also this channel is ubuntu, anything windows please call your microsoft reseller
[09:49] <meet> ubuntu 10- i tried the live session and was impressed as it was better than xp but still after installing the  basic softwares will that also slow down?
[09:49] <multiHYP> no idea
[09:49] <multiHYP> if you are happy that I'm happy
[09:49] <multiHYP> *than
[09:49] <atomicity> hi everyone
[09:49] <Ebron> This is the weirdest thing, if I run 'du -sch *' from /home - I get a grand total of 33G for my home folder, but inside /home/myHomeFolder I get a grand total of 24G. I've lost 9G from a 60G disk. ubuntu 10.10. Any suggestions?
[09:51] <atomicity> I'm having a big problem installing ubuntu on an older laptop. I'm currently booted on an alternative install iso dd'd on a usb disk (actual disk, not flash). So, I boot, and then the 'detect and mount cdrom' step fails. What do I do?
[09:51] <JelloPop> Anyone try this new Distro AriOS in the past 30 days on distro watch it has moved to number 6 based on debian and Ubuntu?? Anyone play with it?
[09:51] <atomicity> (I should mention I'm at home with the terminal, so complex instructions are ok)
[09:51] <head_victim> atomicity: firstly, if the laptop really is older you might check to see it can even boot of USB.
[09:52] <multiHYP> is 11.10 coming with so much python crap or my cloud providers image is injected with it?
[09:52] <multiHYP> i see a lot of python packages
[09:52] <atomicity> head_victim: i've booted it from another iso, but couldn't install because of read errors on the medium.
[09:52] <heliuscron> can't seem to get spdif to show up as option in VLC, anyone had luck with it?
[09:53] <atomicity> head_victim: so yeah, it can boot the os (also, well within minimum specs)
[09:53] <JelloPop> atomicity: what are the specs for laptop! may want xubuntu
[09:53] <head_victim> atomicity: secondly check the ISO mdsum if you haven't already. If that come sup correctly I'd suggest using the USB creator to create it rather than dd, I've never had issues with the USB creator.
[09:53] <atomicity> JelloPop: 1.6GHz centrino, 2G ram, 80GB disk.
[09:54] <atomicity> JelloPop: and also, I'd just be happy with getting the commandline install currently, I plan on trying different window managers and seeing what works best.
[09:54] <madrazr> Hello everyone, I am Unity 2D on Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2, this HUD thing comes up in a while when I try to change the windows by Alt+Tab
[09:54] <madrazr> this is pretty annoying
[09:54] <JelloPop> atomicity: what version of ubuntu are u trying to install?
[09:54] <madrazr> how do I make that not happen?
[09:54] <madrazr> can some one help me please?
[09:54] <head_victim> madrazr: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[09:55] <madrazr> head_victim: Ok cool!
[09:55] <atomicity> JelloPop: the is is 11.10-alternate-i386
[09:55] <madrazr> head_victim: thanks!
[09:55] <dalek_> after about 3 hours of searching for an answer on google, I've come to the conclusion that my problem in insolvable. This is exactly my problem, just a different brand laptop - https://lists.launchpad.net/desktop-packages/msg68795.html
[09:56] <dalek_> Anyone care to prove me wrong by finding a working solution? ;)
[09:57] <JelloPop> atomicity: I would go with xubuntu and just install the gnome desktop :) I'm not to happy with the idea of 11.10 but thats ur choice . md5 check..
[09:57] <atomicity> JelloPop: what's wrong with 11.10
[09:59] <atomicity> also, I can mount the usb by hand no problem from the shell the system boots into
[09:59] <atomicity> I think it's just the installer that expects me to be booting from /dev/sr0 and not from /dev/sdb
[09:59] <JelloPop> atomicity: meant ubuntu 10.04 lts next will be 12.04 lts
[10:00] <dalek_> what _isn't_ wrong with 11.10? ;) I've learnt that if anything (that worked in 10.10) can go wrong, it will in 11.10.
[10:00] <heliuscron> how can I get dts working with VLC in 11.10  anyone?  I'm using spdif out
[10:00] <atomicity> I'm sorry, I'm not a regular ubuntu user. I use archlinux :). It's just that for this laptop I wanted something supposedly hassle-free since it's not going to be a development machine.
[10:01] <JelloPop> atomicity: Good Luck.. ")
[10:01] <atomicity> So I don't really know anything about problematic versions etc.
[10:01] <JelloPop> atomicity: I use Linux Mint.. for hasslefree
[10:01] <atomicity> JelloPop: hm...
[10:02] <atomicity> JelloPop: did it get any better than it was 2 years ago? because back then I tried it and hated it.
[10:02] <JelloPop> atomicity: But, I dont consider either Ubuntu or Linux Mint are a bad choice
[10:02] <dalek_> I wish ubuntu developers wouldn't keep breaking everything each new edition :P
[10:03] <dalek_> so.. any takers on this problem? - https://lists.launchpad.net/desktop-packages/msg68795.html ?
[10:04] <JelloPop> atomicity: Oh, yes Linux Mint is lot more funcutional, but it supports gnome3 + mate... It is more like the old gnome 2 since LInux Mint annouced it would be working on the Nutmeg for Gnome 4 users have doubled over Ubuntu
[10:04] <BlouBlou> What's gnome 4?
[10:04] <fyrfaktry> april fool's joke
[10:04] <atomicity> JelloPop: first thing I'm doing is installing kde anyway :)
[10:05] <BlouBlou> oh ok :P
[10:05] <bodi> !mint
[10:06] <atomicity> thanks for the pointer, will try mint.
[10:06] <head_victim> atomicity: sorry, I had a look around and can find heaps on how to install to USB drive, not a lot on how to install FROM a usb drive.
[10:06] <JelloPop> bodi: thank u , but I get best advice from Ubuntu support.. Not a great deal has changed bewteen Ubuntu and Linux Mint... Just a small desktop and few command line choices not much at all
[10:06] <Onkeltem> Hi all. I have installed Ubuntu on a laptop with E240 AMD CPU. Now Ubuntu works VERY slow. Any ideas?
[10:06] <head_victim> JelloPop: you do realise this is #ubuntu and not #mint right?
[10:07] <bodi> i was just looking for mint channel myself  sorrywas not meant to anyone else
[10:07] <atomicity> head_victim: yeah... I couldn't find anything related to how one can install manually
[10:07] <Steevca> What is the recomended  system req. for ubuntu 12.10 ?  Thanks
[10:23] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress?
[10:23] <dsafdsf> exit
[10:24] <rootworm> hmmm
[10:25] <ourewre> names
[10:26] <BlouBlou> jetty: It depends. What irc client are you using?
[10:26] <BassT> Hello!
[10:26] <rootworm> BassT:
[10:27] <rootworm> hi
[10:27] <hansg01> someone facing problems with latest flash updates?
[10:27] <BassT> I've got a problem with java: "
[10:27] <BassT> Error occurred during initialization of VMToo small initial heapRestarting..." Any idea?
[10:27] <Xabster> jetty, you right click the channel in the left side, settings->hide stuff
[10:28] <Myrtti> Marzata: they are wrong
[10:29] <heliuscron> whats a good util to mount iso in ubuntu
[10:29] <Name141> if you apply updates for a flash drive made by Unetbootn, would those updates come in the installer (packages already updated) or would you have to reinstall the updated packages once actually installed ?
[10:29] <atomicity> heliuscron: mount
[10:29] <hansg01> heliuscron: for which platform?
[10:30] <atomicity> heliuscron: you just mount -o loop isofile target_directory
[10:30] <heliuscron> not sure
[10:30] <atomicity> heliuscron: you don't need a utility, it's built into the operating system
[10:31] <kelvinella> which channel is proxy server channel?
[10:31] <Marzata> Myrtti: no right and no wrong
[10:31] <atomicity> kelvinella: depends on what software you are using.
[10:32] <kelvinella> i mean which channel in this server will chat about proxy?
[10:32] <kelvinella> i am in china now and i dont have facebook connection
[10:32] <LjL> Marzata: this channel has a specific topic, you can't just talk about anything to do with computers, even if you're running Ubuntu. please use #ubuntu-offtopic for topics that are not inherent to Ubuntu technical support.
[10:32] <kelvinella> i need a server that allows me to check facebook
[10:33] <anand> hello i accedently deleted a folder last night is there any way i can rcover that? any help will be great
[10:33] <LjL> kelvinella: in any case, it'd be very insecure to give your Facebook username and password to an untrusted proxy server.
[10:33] <kelvinella> if anyone of you can give me a proxy that i can goto facebook
[10:33] <drake01> kelvinella: use tor
[10:34] <kelvinella> tor?
[10:34] <LjL> kelvinella: please keep in mind that what i said is (very) valid for Tor. it's dangerous to give Tor passwords.
[10:34] <lol_no_u> LjL: lol wot
 Thanks . Let me find these settings.
[10:35] <LjL> lol_no_u: yes?
[10:35] <drake01> search for tor in some search engine, get the tor browser bundle working on your machine and there you go.. (I am not sure about china. It should work there too)
[10:35] <anand> hello i accedently deleted a folder last night is there any way i can rcover that? any help will be great
 Done.
[10:35] <atomicity> anand: did you delete it with rm or threw it in the trash? :)
[10:35] <philinux> anand: did you use shift delete
[10:35] <lol_no_u> anand:  depends on your fs
[10:36] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress?
[10:36] <atomicity> anand: it certanly is possible to recover files, but it's hard and I've never done it successfully.
[10:36] <drake01> LjL: Tor is open source. You know that right!
[10:36] <LjL> drake01: ... and?
[10:36] <anand> atomicity: shift+del
[10:36] <atomicity> paulus68: I don't think that's possible with just squid.
[10:36] <atomicity> anand: you're fucked.
[10:36] <LjL> drake01: surely you're aware that Tor uses untrusted servers all over the world to work.
[10:36] <anand> atomicity: looks like i am..
[10:37] <philinux> anand: Have you used the machine since
[10:37] <LjL> drake01: i could set up my own Tor exit node right now and sniff the passwords of those using it
[10:37] <atomicity> anand: if you don't mind throwing a lot of your life away you can probably get it back by using something like undelete
[10:37] <ssl_> julian du sßw
[10:37] <lol_no_u> anand: go google this, there are chances you're not screwed
[10:37] <LjL> !language | atomicity
[10:37] <ssl_> julianm
[10:37] <anand> philinux: no thats why i think it's possible to recover
[10:37] <drake01> LjL: and the tor uses ssl layer to transport your data to the end server using https everywhere thing integrated in tor browser bundle..
[10:37] <atomicity> LjL: sorry, should have read the guidelines
[10:37]  * atomicity goes read the guidelines.
[10:38] <philinux> anand: Use a livecd / usb and install testdisk, then use photorec
[10:38] <paulus68> atomicity: isn't it possible to tell squid not to show "servername:xxxx" throughout the config of squid
[10:38] <lol_no_u> LjL: you can't sniff passwords if it's ssl over tor
[10:38] <anand> philinux: but photorec can recover image files only
[10:38] <atomicity> paulus68: as far as I could understand him he wants to go to something like whatsmyip.com and not see his ip/port
[10:39] <lol_no_u> oh
[10:39] <atomicity> paulus68: but I could be totally wrong.
[10:39] <philinux> anand: not true I used it to recover mp3 files and otheres
[10:39] <anand> philinux: ok what exactly i have to do
[10:40] <paulus68> atomicity: if I go to whatismyip.com I see my IP adress but it mentions also possible proxy with the name and port of squid I want this to be hidden?
[10:40] <LjL> lol_no_u, drake01: sure, if the site supports HTTPS and you're using the bundle or otherwise connecting through HTTPS, that'll be true. thanks for pointing it out.
[10:40] <philinux> anand: You'll have to read up I'm afraid. Photorec is part of testdisk so install testdisk from livecd. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[10:41] <Myrtti> hay guise, can we please take the discussion about tor and the security of it elsewhere, or atleast give others who need assistance with Ubuntu some space to breathe?
[10:41] <drake01> LjL: You are welcome
[10:41] <anand> philinux: testdisk is already installed
[10:41] <philinux> anand: You'll need to point it at a spare partition or external drive etc to recover file to.
[10:41] <jetty> anand use testdisk
[10:41] <jetty> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[10:41] <anand> philinux: thanks i am going to do that
[10:42] <philinux> anand: Use google and research photorec
[10:42] <anand> thanks
[10:42] <atomicity> paulus68: I have no idea how to do that and this is not the channel. Ask in squid's channel.
[10:42] <drake01> Myrtti: Yeah why not.. What do you want to discuss..
[10:42] <DoctorD> WOOOT: GOOGLE FIBER http://www.google.com/fiber/kansascity/index.html
[10:42] <paulus68> atomicity: do you know the squid channel?
[10:43] <philinux> anand: good info scattered about here. http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=86017259
[10:43] <Myrtti> philinux: please in the future don't just tell people to google...
[10:44] <atomicity> paulus68: no, I've never used squid.
[10:44] <philinux> Myrtti: I didnt I said specific search for photorec
[10:44] <paulus68> atomicity: ok thanks
[10:44] <philinux> Myrtti: There are too many hits on page one anyway
[10:45] <paulus68> j /#squid
[10:46] <amanfromtheinter> hello. i am using filezilla to download ftp directory. firstly it is slows down after MLSD, later disconnects and says "I can't accept more than 16 connections as the same user". under windows downloads normally.
[10:47] <_k2s_> hi all! Im using ubuntu and wanna restore my databases from a backup. What wariable should i write instead of the datebase name (mysql -h localhost -u root -p [name of the database] < sqldump.sql)
[10:48] <Myrtti> philinux: noted, accept my apology
[10:48] <heliuscron> so how do I mount an iso then
[10:48] <heliuscron> w/o have to type a long command
[10:48] <atomicity> _k2s_: ask in #mysql?
[10:48] <philinux> Myrtti: No worries ;)
[10:48] <ocx> hi guys
[10:48] <Zx432> Hi
[10:48] <Boneripper_> still here Monday
[10:49] <kj_> hi
[10:49] <kj_> jest tu jakis polak?
[10:49] <Myrtti> !pl | kj_
[10:49] <ocx> i am trying to set my box as a wifi client to connect to my wireless network but the box is already preconfigured to act as an AP, how can i disabled the AP mode and make my wifi card act as a client?
[10:49] <_k2s_> atomicity, i tried but noone answers so i thought maybe here someonw knew
[10:49] <atomicity> _k2s_: I wanted a ford but there was noone at the ford shop so I came to the porshe shop.
[10:50] <Zx432> What opens x-executable files?
[10:50] <atomicity> _k2s_: plus, you may be asking the wrong question
[10:50] <atomicity> Zx432: um.. you *run* them.
[10:50] <Zx432> It won't run
[10:50] <atomicity> Zx432: then open them with your favorite text editor and look at the 1st line
[10:50] <_k2s_> atomicity, understand your point
[10:51] <atomicity> you might have to set the +x bit though
[10:51] <atomicity> chmod +x filename
[10:51] <bigkitty> hi all
[10:51] <bigkitty> what i can do after i run C^B q on tmux?
[10:51] <atomicity> _k2s_: for instance, I didn't even understand what you meant, there was no variable in your query
[10:53] <atomicity> heliuscron: just use the commandline, you need to be root to mount isos anyway
[10:53] <atomicity> heliuscron: and it's not that much of a hassle, really. If you want can rewrite it :)
[10:53] <heliuscron> the internal right click function to mount iso isnt work, it shows the mount but cant see any files inside
[10:54] <atomicity> heliuscron: internal right click of what? Nautilus?
[10:54] <_k2s_> atomicity, i just wanna migrate db from one ubuntu to other :) maybe i just asked wrong as you said..
[10:55] <heliuscron> right click iso, mount with archive mounter is what i see
[10:55] <atomicity> _k2s_: go to #mysql, and ask how to do that. Someone will be glad to help you. You question might have been too specific. For instance, I would ask in the following way:
[10:55] <heliuscron> mounts it under network
[10:55] <zarex> can anyone help, I have just installed some updates for 11.10 and now my multi monitors dont work, I get this requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 1024), maximum=(1920, 1920)  Is there a way to increase my virtual screen size why did this break as part of an update?  any help would be apprciated I've googled loads and no one seems to know
[10:55] <zarex> ATI graphics 3 monitors, worked fine before update
[10:55] <heliuscron> i have no idea how to use command to do it
[10:55] <atomicity> _k2s_: "I have a dump of my database in an .sql file. How can I restore that database to another machine with a running mysql server?"
[10:56] <atomicity> heliuscron: press alt+f2
[10:56] <atomicity> type in gnome-terminal
[10:56] <zarex> I wonder where 1920x1920 came from I've tried to change in xorg.conf and didnt work
[10:56] <atomicity> and press enter.
[10:56] <heliuscron> type what
[10:56] <_k2s_> atomicity, thanx mate :)
[10:56] <atomicity> _k2s_: np
[10:57] <Zx432> I should see the code using gedit right?
[10:57] <Zx432> Because it chrashes
[10:57] <zarex> has anyone else had this problem where an update messes up their monitors?
[10:57] <atomicity> Zx432: i'd use vim, but yeah.
[10:57] <Zx432> I'll try vim
[10:57] <zarex> I dont get where 1920x1920 limit came from, how do I change the virtual limit?
[10:58] <zarex> requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 1024), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[10:58] <heliuscron> assume I know nothing cuz i dont
[10:58] <zarex> I've google loads and nothing works
[10:58] <atomicity> heliuscron: when the black window appears, type in mkdir myiso
[10:58] <atomicity> and press enter.
[10:59] <atomicity> and then sudo mount -o loop /path/to/your/iso/file.iso myiso
[10:59] <atomicity> the iso should be mounted in the myiso directory
[10:59] <atomicity> you can access it with nautilus
[10:59] <atomicity> or any filemanager afterwards.
[11:00] <zarex> I dont get it, all I did was apply an update and now I have no multi monitor setup, none of the blogs explain the problem and I cant get help here?
[11:00] <opalepatrick> been trying to set up backintime as another backup but keep getting  - Snapshots folder is not valid - I already use deja-dup same ext hard drive no problem.
[11:00] <opalepatrick> any ideas?
[11:01] <atomicity> heliuscron: did you manage it? if you got stuck you should tell me.
[11:03] <atomicity> zarex: it might be you are not using the right driver
[11:03] <atomicity> zarex: because non-optimized drivers might have the limit because of performance.
[11:04] <zarex> hi atomicity, thanks for an answer, I've got the right driver from ati, I've installed the manager which doesnt work, I've tried loads of things,
[11:04] <atomicity> zarex: are you sure you are *using* the driver?
[11:04] <zarex> so why was this working and then I did an update and it breaks?  I can do some tests if you ask me what to type in terminal?
[11:05] <atomicity> zarex: the first and easiest test is to run glxgears and see the framerates
[11:05] <zarex> does xorg.conf work on 11.10 cause it wasnt there until I install ati manager
[11:05] <zarex> glxgears from terminal?
[11:05] <atomicity> zarex: but it's probably best to check with glxinfo
[11:05] <atomicity> zarex: yeah, both.
[11:05] <zarex> 4190 frames in 5.0 seconds = 837.873 FPS
[11:05] <zarex> and I saw the gears
[11:06] <zarex> glxinfo dumps loads of stuff
[11:06] <atomicity> zarex: ok, so glx works, try glxinfo and see the first few lines
[11:06] <Ben64> seems low...
[11:06] <atomicity> zarex: on the first few lines there should be a driver ide
[11:06] <Ben64> 111128 frames in 5.0 seconds
[11:06] <zarex> lspci | grep VGA
[11:06] <zarex> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5430 Series]
[11:06] <dalek_> hey... does anyone know, is there ANY in car GPS nav unit that will work "out of the box" in Ubuntu? Or, failing that, a unit that could be have linux GPS software over-write the existing GPS software and be able to use map data fro source like open street map project or similar?
[11:06] <zarex> i'll have a look
[11:07] <dalek_> from*
[11:07] <zarex> name of display: :0.0
[11:07] <zarex> display: :0  screen: 0
[11:07] <zarex> direct rendering: Yes
[11:07] <zarex> server glx vendor string: ATI
[11:07] <zarex> server glx version string: 1.4
[11:07] <zarex> server glx extensions:
[11:07] <zarex>     GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
[11:07] <zarex>     GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method,
[11:07] <Ben64> zarex: use a pastebin
[11:07] <zarex>     GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
[11:07] <zarex>     GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
[11:07] <zarex> client glx vendor string: ATI
[11:07] <zarex> client glx version string: 1.4
[11:07] <zarex> client glx extensions:
[11:07] <zarex> any good?
[11:07] <amanfromtheinter> i am trying to download ftp directory. tried nautilus, filezilla and wget. all of them connect, but when downloading directory say connection refused.
[11:07] <zarex> whats a pastebin?
[11:07] <Ben64> !pastebin
[11:07] <zarex> sorry new to this will do
[11:08] <dalek_> is imagebin new?
[11:08] <Ben64> dalek_: you could use a usb serial gps receiver
[11:09] <vinesh> need some help guys, installed ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop. I also have windows.  Is that a device which requires to be plugged into a computer to work? I am thinking more along the lines of a complete device that can connect to a computer for updates/mods then will also work stand alone in a car.
[11:10] <atomicity> zarex: but next time, post into something like pastebin.com
[11:10] <Ben64> dalek_: then how does that relate to ubuntu?
[11:10] <zarex> sorry here some more info http://paste.ubuntu.com/909963/
[11:10] <Xabster> vinesh, upgrade your wife's RAM
[11:10] <vinesh> *wifi
[11:10] <vinesh> hahaha sorry typo
[11:10] <Xabster> haha
[11:10] <JermB0b> anyone know how to back scroll in irssi without page up and page down buttons ?
[11:11] <dalek_> Ben64, the part where it connects to an ubuntu PC and can talk with it directly, without having to go through virtualbox or wine....
[11:11] <zarex> do you know where the limit is set as I know the hardware and the drivers work before, so if I can just get around this limit
[11:11] <Ben64> dalek_: many of them just require maps on an sd card, so it wouldn't matter what system it is
[11:11] <zarex> atomicity: do you know where the limit is set as I know the hardware and the drivers work before, so if I can just get around this limit
[11:12] <darksifer> Xabster, upgrade wife's RAM!!! LOL
[11:12] <zarex> atomicity: I thought it was xorg.conf but that doesnt seem to be doing anything
[11:12] <atomicity> zarex: does ati have a control panel?
[11:12] <Xabster> :D
[11:12] <atomicity> zarex: because all of this should be settable without restarting X
[11:12] <atomicity> zarex: try with xrandr
[11:13] <kcrothers> this may be an easy question as I am just learning to use bash. I am having difficulty editing via gedit a file that I created via bash. permissions appear to be set correctly. I can add lines via bash. "could not create a back up file while saving ...". of note, the file doesn't open in gedit when doubleclicked. other txt files in the dir that I didn't create do. type is plain text document. thanks for your consideration.
[11:13] <vinesh> anyone here managed to solve ubuntu 11.10 wifi problem.. ?
[11:14] <DoctorD> @ vinesh - you should installed 10.04 and wait for 12.04 :P
[11:14] <DoctorD> they are LTS
[11:14] <dalek_> Ben64, ah ok... I don't suppose you'd know what type of format the average GPS unit would take for maps?
[11:14] <zarex> atomicity: ati has a ui interface I've tried changing settings and doesnt work.  xrandr whats that? without restarting x, you mean get rid of xorg.conf maybe?
[11:14] <zarex> atomicity: shouldnt xorg.conf my virtual settings override this and fix the problem?
[11:15] <Zx432> yo know that file I was asking about? The x-executable one?
[11:15] <atomicity> zarex: no, xorg.conf just sets the defaults.
[11:15] <zarex> atomicity: I've heard I should get rid of xorg.conf and reboot but just not confident about that
[11:15] <atomicity> Zx432: yeah...
[11:15] <dalek_> guess not.
[11:15] <Zx432> If I omen it in vi I get a bunch of strange signs mostly @
[11:15] <Zx432> *open
[11:15] <zarex> atomicity: oh okay, so there is no way to change this limit?
[11:15] <atomicity> zarex: well... maybe you should just move it.
[11:15] <atomicity> zarex: I have no idea, I've been on nvidia all my life
[11:15] <vinesh> appreciate some help guys
[11:16] <heliuscron> how do i get root
[11:16] <Zx432> But I am noob so I might have done something wrong
[11:16] <atomicity> heliuscron: sudo su
[11:16] <atomicity> Zx432: it seems it's not a script.
[11:16] <atomicity> Zx432: that's ok.
[11:16] <heliuscron> damnit were's termianl
[11:18] <atomicity> heliuscron: alt+f2, gnome-terminal, enter.
[11:18] <vinesh> help help ... with ubuntu wifi ....extremely slow ... help
[11:18] <atomicity> heliuscron: i'm sorry i'm dragging you through the terminal, but that's the easiest way to help over irc.
[11:18] <zarex> atomicity: not really sure what to do, a recent ATI graphics card, a decent machine, I do one simple update and lose all my monitors, not a great experience.
[11:19] <heliuscron> trying to use the gmount to mount a simple iso
[11:19] <heliuscron> giving errors
[11:19] <atomicity> heliuscron: what errors.
[11:19] <zarex> anyone using ATI gtraphics and updated recently and now doesnt have multiple monitors????
[11:20] <Zx432> So now what? :)
[11:20] <heliuscron> pixmap
[11:21] <atomicity> heliuscron: what?
[11:21] <heliuscron> whats the command to mount iso then
[11:21] <atomicity> heliuscron: mount -o loop isofile folder
[11:21] <atomicity> and you have to be root
[11:21] <atomicity> or put sudo in front of that
[11:22] <heliuscron> i need a graphical interface
[11:22] <heliuscron> im using Gmount but get a pixmap error
[11:22] <atomicity> heliuscron: I hope someone else can help you with that, I never use graphical interfaces.
[11:24] <vinesh> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH UBUNTU 11.10 WIFI PROBLEM
[11:24] <atomicity> vinesh: obviously not, since nobody answered
[11:24] <heliuscron> how can I become superuser
[11:25] <LjL> !sudo | heliuscron
[11:25] <Zx432> what is a pypar2 program?
[11:25] <zarex> can anyone help with ATI graphics was working, did update today now I have 1 monitor instead of three
[11:25] <zarex> requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1280, 1024), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[11:25] <philinux> heliuscron: With lots of practise
[11:25] <zarex> but I need to changte the limit 1920x1920 or figure out where it came from as all worked fine yesterday
[11:25] <heliuscron> i looked up this pixmap error says I need ot be superuser
[11:25] <zarex> this is when I try an enable the second monitor
[11:26] <Halitus> hey all, why do some of my scripts send me an email with anything they "echo" I have a backup script in my crontab which sends me an email each time it runs (via ssmtp)
[11:26] <atomicity> heliuscron: use gsudo.
[11:26] <philinux> I think he means gksudo
[11:26] <atomicity> philinux: thanks for the correction.
[11:27] <heliuscron> i want to use this Gmount program
[11:27] <heliuscron> not terminal
[11:27] <atomicity> heliuscron: you have to run gmout as the super user
[11:27] <heliuscron> how
[11:27] <atomicity> heliuscron: with bloody gksudo :)
[11:28] <heliuscron> assume I know nothing
[11:28]  * atomicity should stop talking.
[11:28] <heliuscron> total noob
[11:28] <LjL> heliuscron: type gksudo gmount in a terminal or in alt+f2
[11:28] <zarex> does anyone use ATI graphics and updated their ubuntu today as I did an now I have lost my multi monitor setup?
[11:28] <buiss> heliuscron, ALT+F2 gksu gmount
[11:28] <Total_Oblivion> hello! can anyone recommend a good movie/anime etc viewer? i am using windows so i just dl packages... thanks!
[11:28] <zarex> come on someone must know aout xorg ATI and graphics?
[11:29] <zarex> I love ubuntu but doing an update should not break my display setup
[11:29] <Xabster> zarex, which version of the driver?
[11:29] <atomicity> zarex: try in #xorg
[11:29] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: I use mplayer
[11:29] <zarex> Xabster: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5430 Series]
[11:29] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: where do i get it?
[11:29] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: but I have no idea what you mean with you are using windows, since if you were using ms windows this is not the place.
[11:29] <heliuscron> asked for password
[11:30] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: apt-get install mplayer
[11:30] <heliuscron> then nothing comes up
[11:30] <zarex> #xorg
[11:30] <LjL> heliuscron: are you sure the program's name is actually "gmount"? you need to put the correct command name
[11:30] <LjL> heliuscron: isn't it "gmountiso" perhaps?
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> !info gmount
[11:30] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: well.. I'm kinga getting bored of windows and i want something better... i'm getting bored of getting everything done by clicking and having no idea what is being done :P
[11:30] <DMJC> does anyone know howto make ubuntu boot/run X without a GPU?
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> !info gmountiso
[11:31] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: by 'windows' you mean 'gnome'?
[11:31] <Wingede> anyone use empathy as irc client?
[11:31] <buiss> heliuscron, type your password
[11:31] <DMJC> actually nevermind? I just answered my own question. X doesn't need to run if I'm going to be booting a CLI based server right?
[11:31] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: microsoft windows
[11:31] <Xabster> Total_Oblivion, this is #ubuntu - support for an operating system like Windows
[11:31] <DMJC> as long as SSH forwards X11.....
[11:31] <atomicity> DMJC: exactly.
[11:31] <DMJC> thanks :)
[11:31] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: oh... then... why are you asking in #ubuntu?
[11:32] <Xabster> We do not help with Microsoft Windows or applications for windows, Total_Oblivion
[11:32] <heliuscron> tried gmout-iso
[11:32] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: cause i am running on linux atm and i want to go all the way ubuntu...
[11:32] <heliuscron> asked for pass then nothing comes up
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Total_Oblivion  type /join ##windows (that's double #)
[11:32] <LjL> heliuscron: "gmountiso", not "gmout-iso"
[11:32] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: oh, ok.
[11:32] <heliuscron> right
[11:32] <LjL> heliuscron: let me install it and try
[11:33] <buiss> heliuscron, the program may not be there. What are you trying to do?
[11:33] <Total_Oblivion> Xabster: that's why i'm asking here... i don't want microsoft anymore...
[11:33] <heliuscron> mount simple isos
[11:33] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: next time, you should ask 'i'm new to ubuntu, what is a good application to do X'
[11:33] <LjL> heliuscron: ok, the actual program name is "Gmount-iso" (capitalization matters, note)
[11:33] <Xabster> Total_Oblivion, ah i see - do you run ubuntu now?
[11:33] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: to avoid misunderstandings.
[11:33] <heliuscron> hm ok
[11:33] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: ok, so for movies I use mplayer
[11:33] <Xabster> And I use VLC
[11:33] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: and you can install it from the package manager, just type mplayer into the search
[11:33] <buiss> heliuscron, any problem to do it in a terminal? I right click them and choose open with archive mounter in gnome
[11:34] <Total_Oblivion> atomcity: thanks. will keep that in mind :)
[11:34] <Total_Oblivion> Xabster: yeap. On dual boot though.
[11:34] <Xabster> Total_Oblivion, okay, go in to the software manager and type vlc
[11:35] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: but if you want to do it from the terminal (and I wuld encourage you to learn that)
[11:35] <Xabster> Ubuntu Software Center that is
[11:35] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: apt-get install mplayer
[11:35] <atomicity> :)
[11:35] <atomicity> sorry, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[11:35] <atomicity> then type in your password
[11:35] <atomicity> Xabster: heh, let's see who he follows :)
[11:35] <Xabster> hehe
[11:35] <Total_Oblivion> mplayers installed :P
[11:36] <Xabster> Noooo
[11:36] <Xabster> get VLC
[11:36] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you actually should get vlc too
[11:36] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: it's better with broken files
[11:36] <Total_Oblivion> now getting vlc :P
[11:36] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: but mplayer has a better interface.
[11:36] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: and I find it to be altogether more responsive.
[11:36] <Total_Oblivion> Xabster: how can i get VLC via terminal?
[11:37] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:37] <DMJC> is there a howto guide on easily disabling X in ubuntu and making network start at boot on CLI?
[11:37] <jrib> !text | DMJC
[11:37] <ocx> can someone help me?
[11:37] <ocx> root@ubuntu:~# iwlist uap0 scan uap0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> !nox| DMJC
[11:37] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity: E: invalid operation install
[11:37] <jrib> Total_Oblivion: lies
[11:38] <DMJC> cheers :D
[11:38] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you misspelled it
[11:38] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: probably
[11:38] <azertyu> hi 2 all
[11:38] <zarex> why cant I enable my 3 monitors? it worked fine before update, is there a way of reverting back to before an update
[11:38] <azertyu> well, i just transfer my macbook hard drive partition to my ubuntu pc using netcat, so on my ubuntu systeme i got the image of my macbook partition so the /dev/sda1 rename as sda1.image
[11:38] <Total_Oblivion> sudo apt-get intall vlc
[11:38] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: there's an s missing
[11:38] <azertyu> now my question is : how to mount that partition from linux system ?
[11:38] <Total_Oblivion> .....
[11:38] <azertyu> Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l i got
[11:38] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: intall :)
[11:38] <Total_Oblivion> doing it now :P
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  create a folder with an easy name, then type sudo mount [device] [that name]
[11:39] <azertyu> what name i have to change ?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  don't change, just make up a name
[11:40] <heliuscron> i have root but still gmount wont work
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> heliuscron  it's gmountiso
[11:40] <heliuscron> what should I chose as moutn point?
[11:40] <heliuscron> no it opens now ok
[11:40] <heliuscron> gmount-iso
[11:41] <Total_Oblivion> sweet!!!
[11:41] <heliuscron> what should i select as mount point?
[11:41] <Total_Oblivion> thanks guys :)
[11:41] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: to view videos
[11:41] <usr13> DMJC: You can turn off your window manager
[11:41] <heliuscron> i dotn see my home dir anymore
[11:41] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: cd to the folder your video is at
[11:41] <atomicity> mplayer filename
[11:41] <azertyu>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/909990/ well it return this  have a look MonkeyDust
[11:41] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: and you should also know this
[11:42] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you don't have to type out everything
[11:42] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity: cd=change directory?
[11:42] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: if you press tab twice, it will show you the completions for your command, and if there is only one completion, it will write it out as far as it can
[11:42] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: yes, it's a command.
[11:42] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: and it does what you wrote
[11:43] <atomicity> cd dirname will change to dirname.
[11:43] <atomicity> cd .. will go one level up
[11:43] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity: we've done some unix commands at bioinformatics course, and mainly that's why i want to change to ubuntu. i pretty much like it!
[11:43] <atomicity> ls will tell you which files are in the current directlry
[11:43] <azertyu> and this is what i got on MonkeyDust log : [  381.233005] hfs: unable to find HFS+ superblock
[11:43] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: oh, ok then :) nice.
[11:43] <Rix> how is the correct usage for mount - i want to mount device and set permissions 775/664 (dirs/files) for everything on mount.. im reading the manual but dont understand - there are so many options for command mount, please help
[11:44] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, as will pwd says where I'm atm :P
[11:44] <jrib> Rix: what filesystem?
[11:44] <Rix> fat32
[11:44] <Rix> :(
[11:44] <jrib> !vfat | Rix
[11:44] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: I have the pwd printed on my prompt all the ime
[11:44] <Rix> thanks
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  in a Terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit -- paste the url here so the channel can see and help
[11:46] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: http://atomicity.org/~atom/pastey/konsole_look.png
[11:47] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: that's what my desktop looks like
[11:47] <azertyu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/910003/  MonkeyDust
[11:47] <azertyu> i m not sure if you get my question fdisk -l not will help so much
[11:47] <mikeconcepts> Please look at my script to run skype that tries to run v4l, what's wrong with it http://pastebin.com/JhzJEH7q
[11:48] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, very very user friendle :P
[11:48] <Total_Oblivion> *friendly
[11:48] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you can modify what your terminal prompt looks like really easily by changing your .bashrc
[11:48] <Rix> jrib but is there a quick way to manually mount the device without messing with fstab
[11:48] <Rix> using just the command mount
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  i'm not familiar with hfsplus, what is it?
[11:49] <jrib> Rix: yes, pass the options to mount with -o
[11:49] <Rix> oh thanks
[11:49] <mikeconcepts> anything wrong here? LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l2convert.so
[11:49] <azertyu> hfsplus is just only an filesystem able to read mac partition
[11:50] <azertyu> on linux
[11:50] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: I'm getting you what you should paste into your .bashrc to get pretty colors like I have :)
[11:51] <heliuscron> still cant mount an iso
[11:51] <Sidewinder> Rix, There is a mount command but I'm not sure of the syntax; however, I don't believe that you can change permissions (from ubuntu), on a fat 32 or NTFS partition.
[11:51] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: in reality, this should go to /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc but I don't know how ubuntu does this.
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  "HFS+ fsck and mkfs have been ported to Linux and are part of the hfsprogs package." -- i'd say: install hfsprogs, first
[11:52] <Koheleth> just to say I like the Ubuntu homepage today lol well done
[11:52]  * atomicity is asking himself why ubuntu installs everything and the kitchen sink by default
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> azertyu  hfsprogs is in the repos, you can use apt-get, synaptic or the software center
[11:53] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: http://ideone.com/qVrNK
[11:53] <usr13> Rix: use -w switch
[11:53] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, any idea how can i add a language to open office?
[11:53] <Rix> Sidewinder i dont want to change them after mount, just on mounting
[11:53] <Rix> usr13 thanks i will look at this
[11:53] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: the way you do everything - install a package
[11:54] <usr13> Rix: Are you trying to write a fstab entry?
[11:54] <Rix> no
[11:54] <Rix> i just want to mount sd card
[11:54] <Rix> and by default
[11:54] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: you should go to ubuntu software center and search for openoffice, there should be a bunch of openoffice-[language code] packages
[11:54] <Rix> mount /dev/sdc1 /media/dir
[11:54] <Rix> is no good cause it makes it 644 for files
[11:54] <Rix> but i want 642
[11:55] <Rix> on mounting
[11:55] <usr13> Rix: Does this sd card have fat32 filesystem on it?
[11:55] <Rix> yes
[11:55] <sacarlson> heliuscron: did you try anything like this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html ;  you can also open iso files with nautilus
[11:55] <atomicity> Rix: you want the umask option.
[11:55] <Rix> atomicity exactly i will try it now
[11:56] <Rix> umask will take permissions right?
[11:56] <atomicity> Rix: yeah
[11:56] <heliuscron> maybe cuz my iso is on another drive, not home?
[11:56] <Rix> so 002 will make files 775
[11:56] <Rix> ok thanks
[11:57] <usr13> Rix: Setting specific read write permissions to files on fat32 is not gonna happen, (the chmod command does not effect fat32)
[11:57] <Rix> yes but once i set them on mount i dont wont to change them later
[11:57] <sacarlson> heliuscron: I'm not sure that would make any difference as that notes in the link to be sudo
[11:58] <SimonYeah> Hiya, I switched to Unity from XFCE+XMonad a couple of weeks ago, and I really like it how you can customize "tiling" really easy.
[11:58] <Rix> atomicity mount: unrecognized option '--umask=005'
[11:58] <Rix> im so noob :(
[11:59] <Rix> maybe -o umount=005?
[11:59] <SimonYeah> BUT! Is there some way to only alt-tab the windows in the current workspace instead of on all the workspaces? This pisses me of so much :(
[11:59] <mjjc1337> mfw, gnome-shell is not working in 12.04 and I've deleted my configure debian to try it ;_;
[11:59] <atomicity> Rix: what you said.
[11:59] <mjjc1337> *configured
[11:59] <Rix> :)
[11:59] <Rix> worked
[12:00] <usr13> Rix: I don't think -- is  yea ok.
[12:00] <Rix> -o umount=flags
[12:00] <Rix> thanks a lot atomicity exactly that option i needed
[12:00] <SimonYeah> Oh, nevermind, found alt+` :)
[12:00] <liang> what's this?
[12:01] <liang> who can tall me ?
[12:01] <atomicity> Rix: glad I could help
[12:01] <Sidewinder> liang, This is an ubuntu support channel.
[12:02] <liang> What can I do with it ?
[12:03] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, how can i install the latest java version? it's not at a package
[12:04] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: yeah, it's a package. search for sun-jre
[12:04] <atomicity> Total_Oblivion: I gtg, someone will take care of you from here I guess.
[12:04] <Total_Oblivion> atomicity, thanks!
[12:06] <jrib> !java | Total_Oblivion
[12:06] <Rix> atomicity if i set umask 002 it makes 775 everything -> dirs and files, but i want 775 for dirs and 664 for files, is it possible?
[12:07] <jrib> Rix: see dmask and fmask
[12:07] <Rix> yey ty
[12:09] <krisbulman> .j virtualbox
[12:09] <mjjc1337> does anyone experience problems when trying to run gnome-shell in 12.04? it runs gnome-fallback instead
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| mjjc1337
[12:10] <mjjc1337> thanks
[12:12] <XDESIGN> official channl for Linux Mint
[12:12] <XDESIGN> ?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[12:12] <XDESIGN> Channel*
[12:12] <daro> j
[12:12] <daro> k
[12:12] <XDESIGN> MonkeyDust 10x :)
[12:12] <daro> ?
[12:13] <XDESIGN> * Cannot join #linuxmint (Channel is invite only).
[12:13] <LjL> XDESIGN: on irc.spotchat.org, not here
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> XDESIGN  offtopic:
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=linuxmint-help
[12:16] <DMJC> Linux is Awesome :D
[12:17] <XDESIGN>   10x
[12:25] <dnivra> hello. I would like to disable dpms permanently since my screen switches off in a very short time. most of google results talk about disabling it in Xorg.conf but well Ubuntu doesn't have one now. so what's the alternative way to do it?
[12:25] <dnivra> xset -dpms is a short lived fix-i guess it's enabled again when I restart x server. so that's not something I'm looking for I guess.
[12:25] <An_Ony_Moose> how do I set the locale options? dpkg-reconfigure locales did the job in the past IIRC, but I tried that and it doesn't do anything
[12:32] <ttl-> i'm testing 12.04 beta 2 from a live CD and found somthing strange, tail -f /var/log/syslog of /var/log/kern.log is not printing new lines
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> ttl-  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:33] <auronandace_> !12.04 | ttl-
[12:33] <ttl-> o, sorry
[12:34] <Seryth> Guys, I've got an iPod Nano 2nd Gen, 2GB. It was originally formatted for a Mac, and now I want to use it on my own computer, Linux (ubuntu). I plugged it in and it shows up, but it's RO, not RW, so I can't remove songs or put songs on, only play them...I've tried "mount -o remount -o rw /dev/sdc3" (it's location) but I get the error: "mount: /media/ad87a41c-7309-3655-8785-54dbcfbe246f not mounted already, or bad option" What can I do?
[12:34] <al3x57> quit
[12:35] <auronandace_> !ipod | Seryth
[12:35] <lol_no_u> i accidentally ubuntu my ipod
[12:35] <Seryth> auronandace_: Thanks
[12:42] <Zx432> Is there a way to figure out which tab is using up most of he ram in firefox?
[12:45] <c0rtez> Zx432 you can try about:memory
[12:47] <Zx432> x-executable is a linux file right?
[12:49] <kangarooo> whats packageaname of 10.04 LTS window manager witch makes pop up windows in front or not in front? and make them active?
[12:52] <s1gnal> Im dealing with a particularly nasty problem with x11vnc on a remote machine. About once a day it crashes so severely that it takes out ssh entirely. Whenever I drive to the site and find the machine, it is hardlocked and requires me push the reset switch. I suspected hardware damage, so yesterday I replaced the desktop server with a temporary used laptop. I installed xubuntu with x11vnc and had the same exact crash. Nothing is showing up i
[12:52] <s1gnal> n any logs to document the hardlock. Anything I can do?
[12:53] <xi_> omfg
[12:53] <xi_> wow
[12:54] <xi_> i never knew that something like irc exists ..
[12:54] <kangarooo> whats packagename for windowmanagement in 10.04 ?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> metacity?
[12:55] <xi_> my pc has hanged :(
[12:57] <|Anthony|> i'm trying to trace the cause of a reliable Xorg crash and am gathering logs to show some meaningful information. So far i have Xorg.0.log users.log syslog.1 and .xsessions-errors.old
[12:57] <|Anthony|> any other places i could find pertinent logs?
[12:58] <s1gnal> maybe kern.log?
[12:58] <himsin> Hi, .jnlp files run very slow in my ubuntu 11.10. Sometimes they take 5 min. just to show menu. It run fine on windows. I tried with openjdk and java-6 and 7.
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  try asking in #xorg
[13:00] <|Anthony|> MonkeyDust, i am pretty confident that something is happening in pulseaudio / alsa that is causing X to crap out
[13:00] <himsin> the jnlp I am trying to run is topcoder arena
[13:01] <himsin> I also tested it on 10.10. It used to work fine in 10.04 I think.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: tried:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     waiting 10 seconds then try some sound apps
[13:03] <JerryKwan> somebody could tell me the default password of user 'ubuntu' in the image downloaded from ubuntu?
[13:03] <Chousuke> there shouldn't be any
[13:03] <strgglr> JerryKwan, the password is empty
[13:04] <JerryKwan> strgglr: but i can not log in use  empty password
[13:04] <strgglr> user: ubuntu passwd: empty doesnt work?
[13:05] <JerryKwan> strgglr: yep, it does not work
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> JerryKwan: press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run:  passwd ubuntu      and set a password, you can then press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in at ubuntu with the password you set
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  hmm ok, that's a bit beyond my abilities
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> JerryKwan: by default, there is no password and it should autologin
[13:05] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, the .pulse folder will auto-generate and nothing in there is needed?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> |Anthony|: yes it will generate when pulse automatically restarts
[13:06] <caB00T> Where would I download trusted software for Ubuntu from Windows? Some web page?
[13:07] <Myrtti> caB00T: are you on dualboot?
[13:07] <caB00T> y
[13:07] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, i should mention that Xorg will only crash while playing minecraft, there haven't been any other circumstances that this happens.
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> caB00T  appnr.com
[13:07] <|Anthony|> ActionParsnip, its not that all sound events kill X
[13:07] <Dr_willis> 'trusted software for ubuntu' meaning what exactly?
[13:08] <caB00T> Thank you Myrtti. :)
[13:08] <caB00T> Meaning same as apt-get or software center?
[13:08] <jessie> i forget my BIOS password now i want to change boot order please tell me how to recover it
[13:08] <Dr_willis> caB00T,  ive never heard of appnr.com .....
[13:08] <caB00T> Oh?
[13:08] <caB00T> Is there such an equivalent?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> caB00T,  i think you chould charify the question....
[13:08] <caB00T> Ok, sorry,
[13:09] <|Anthony|> jessie, is there a CMOS reset jumper on the mobo?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> jessie: BIOS passwords are not an ubuntu issue, try ##hardware]#
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ##hardware
[13:09] <jessie> Anthony
[13:10] <|Anthony|> ?
[13:10] <jessie> Anthony:i dont understand
[13:10] <caB00T> I want to download new software for Ubuntu and can't connect from it directly to ther internet, so I was wondering where would I turn to?
[13:10] <caB00T> So I could donload from my windows boot?
[13:10] <Dr_willis> caB00T,  getting all the dependencies can be a big issue.
[13:10] <Dr_willis> you can downlad all the various .debs then install them by hand. but its possible you may miss some dependencies.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> caB00T: you could use another ubuntu system online, download loads of debs using the download only option in apt-get then use aptoncd to make a cd full of debs
[13:11] <Dr_willis> caB00T,  an easier way may be to setup ubuntu in vbox on your windows machine, and apt-get the stuff then copy over the whole /var/cache/apt/  *.deb files
[13:11] <caB00T> Aha, ok my friend also has Ubuntu, good.
[13:11] <caB00T> Ok, thank you guys.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> caB00T: of you can use packages.ubuntu.com but as Dr_willis says, deps can get messy
[13:12] <caB00T> I will try vbox, thanks guys! :)
[13:12] <Dr_willis> mondern os's just expect you to have an internet connection these days. :)
[13:12] <JerryKwan> ActionParsnip: thank you for your advice, and i will have a try
[13:12] <caB00T> hehe, so it seems... :)
[13:13] <himsin> anyone?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: true
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> himsin: tried in a live CD of Oneiric?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> himsin: Maverick is EOL after next month...
[13:14] <himsin> ActionParsnip, no I tried in installed copy of Oneiric
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> himsin: good enough :)
[13:15] <yuansl> anyone?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> Anyone What?
[13:16] <RedCap> Hi. I trying to make port forwarding to internal network. iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -d <IP_ADDRESS> -p tcp --dport 16540 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:16540 and I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/910090/
[13:18] <RedCap> any ideas?
[13:19] <rtdu754r> hi!
[13:20] <rtdu754r> do you like Unity?
[13:20] <fyrfaktry> anyone having issues with Ubuntu One? It seems the service is down.
[13:20] <rtdu754r> i have not used ubuntuone
[13:21] <Dragon64> workin for me, just uploaded all my stuff a few minutes ago
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> rtdu754r: s'ok
[13:21] <fyrfaktry> ok. thanks
[13:21] <dalton2345> hello everyone, i'm trying to install ubuntu next to arch, i create a partition with gparted from the live cd, but the partition is not usable :o
[13:22] <rtdu754r> Arch linux!
[13:22] <rtdu754r> cool!
[13:22] <bazhang> rtdu754r, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:22] <Dragon64> @dalton2345 did you make it active after partitioning?
[13:23] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  whats saying its 'not useable'
[13:23] <dalton2345> dragon, i cant do anything after, right click on it i see only the new option
[13:23] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  and you may want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' for us eto see
[13:24] <rtdu754r> sir,yes sir
[13:24] <Dragon64> easiest thing to do is to use the advanced partition tool in Ubuntu, might be easier
[13:24] <RedCap> anyone?
[13:24] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  you are not trying to make more then 4 primary partions are you?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> dalton2345: did you format it?
[13:24] <dalton2345> Dr_willis, i'm not on it right now, i did it twice both time, it told me it was not useable
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> RedCap: try in ##networking as well
[13:25] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  what told you that?
[13:25] <dalton2345> Dr_willis, yes it tells me i can't do more than 4 partitions
[13:25] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip, no i didnt format it
[13:25] <trinikrono> 4 primary partitions
[13:25] <dalton2345> i did it from the live cd
[13:25] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  you need to make an extended partion, not a primary. then put logicals IN the extended
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> dalton2345: make one an extended partition and you can make as many logical partitions as you need
[13:26] <dalton2345> Dr_willis, can i do this from gparted?
[13:26] <Dragon64> @dzalton its easier from the ubuntu livecd
[13:26] <Dragon64> do the install it will prompt you for partitioning
[13:27] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  of course. - with gparted. you could just DELETE the partion.  leaving ONLY 3 primary partions. the rest of the HD unallocated. and let the installer auto partion the unallocated space.
[13:27] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  if you have 4 primaries in USE. that makes it harder..
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: arch a good choice? ;)
[13:27] <Dragon64> Dr_willis is correct
[13:27] <Dr_willis> i have a hard time reccomending arch linux. :)
[13:28] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#PC_partition_types
[13:28] <dalton2345> arch is a bit hard, but its really fast, i do need ubuntu for a dvb card
[13:28] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress at whatismyip.com
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: its fun but imho the gains aren't significant to warrant the effort
[13:28] <dalton2345> cant make it work with arch, but with ubuntu takes me 2 click
[13:29] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  and the channel is not as fun.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> A hard disk may contain only one extended partition; the extended partition can be subdivided into multiple logical partitions. In DOS/Windows systems, each logical partition may then be assigned an additional drive letter.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> in linux speak. the logicals would be 'sda5 and up'
[13:29] <Dr_willis> if the hd is 'sda'
[13:30] <dalton2345> the thing is i resize the partition, make 30gb of that space free...then i do like i install ubuntu, it doesnt give me the option...just tell me if i want to erase the all drive
[13:30] <Dr_willis> dalton2345,  if you allready HAVE 4 primary partions. then you must remove one. to make a extended.
[13:30] <Dr_willis> if your arch swap partion is on a primary, you could move it to a logical inside the extended.
[13:30] <Dragon64> @dalton there are usually several options, one should say install beside other linux
[13:31] <dalton2345> nope dragon it doesn't cause i have 4 partitions...looks like
[13:31] <Dr_willis> 4 primary partions in use - leads to a dead end when trying to install other os's :)
[13:31] <Dragon64> ok, the Dr is correct
[13:31] <Dragon64> o yes it does
[13:31] <Dragon64> lol
[13:32] <Dragon64> I had that issue first time I installed slack, had no idea what i was doing
[13:32] <dalton2345> so i delete swap?
[13:32] <Dr_willis> on a normal linux only box. i tend to use all primaries. :) but these days i normally only need 3 primaries.  / home and swap.
[13:32] <dalton2345> than arch will use ubuntu's swap ?
[13:32] <Dr_willis> you can easially delete the swap partion. (if its  at the end of your partions) and resize the unalocated space into a extended partion.  THEN let ubuntu install to that extended. it will make a / and a swap partion.
[13:33] <Dr_willis> shareing 'swap' can cause issues - if you intend on using hibernate/suspend. (i never use those)
[13:33] <Dr_willis> You can even set up swap files if you wanted to. and not use a swap partion.
[13:33] <raydog45000> does anyone know the command or how to get javac?
[13:34] <dalton2345> wait i will turn on the other pc and do a fdisk...and pastebin
[13:34] <Dr_willis> You could also work at it and sort of share your existing home partion.   keep the 2 disrtos homes in seperate dirs. but on the same partition.
[13:34] <escott> raydog45000, did you install the jdk or just the jre?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> but with differnt disrtos. the differnt UID/GIDS can cause issues.
[13:35] <Dragon64> @raydog45000 you will need to make sure java is installed first
[13:35] <raydog45000> idk I installed Ubuntu 11.1
[13:35] <raydog45000> i did whereis javac
[13:35] <sysc> you need the jdk
[13:35] <escott> raydog45000, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[13:37] <dalton2345> well nevermind pastebin, i do have 4 partitions
[13:38] <Dragon64> whats the address of the ubuntu general chat?
[13:38] <escott> !ot | Dragon64
[13:39] <Dragon64> thanks
[13:41] <foobArrr> what is the difference between indicator applet and notification area?
[13:41] <FernandoCueva> I have a question, when you connect to an encrypted server can the isp find out who the connection is going to or that's a hardware secret?
[13:42] <marsfligth> Does 'umount' command to empties the trash on removable devices while it is executing? Or to empty the trash i have to use 'rm' or some specific tool? The trash folders that I mean are '.Trash-1000' and '.Trash-0'. Thanks
[13:42] <escott> FernandoCueva, they know who it goes to. they have to otherwise they couldn't route it
[13:43] <escott> marsfligth, umount does not empty the trash. you would have to do that. the different trash folders are for different users (1000 is you, 0 is root)
[13:44] <FernandoCueva> couldn't they at least make the routing part encrypted and decreypted by hardware
[13:44] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: they can see that there is communication going on. Usually, it is possible to guess the protocol
[13:44] <marsfligth> Thanks escott
[13:44] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements
[13:44] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  unmount as far as i know does not touch the trash. its when you use the gnome gui. it checks the trash
[13:44] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: no, that's a tcp/ip thing
[13:45] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: the tcp/ip part of the packet cannot be encrypted
[13:45] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  each trash is  .trash-user-uid-number. so things in .trash-0 are what root deleted.
[13:45] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: and that's precicely the part that says who sent the packet and who it is for.
[13:45] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  the default user is uid 1000.
[13:45] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: if you want anonymous communication with even that hidden, you have to use tor
[13:46] <marsfligth> escott: does exist a sort of command that empty all present trashes folders only on removable device. Something like 'autotrash' for instance
[13:46] <FernandoCueva> oh yea I heard about tor some years ago
[13:46] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  not that ive ever noticed.
[13:46]  * atomicity does not understand why people need trash
[13:47] <Dr_willis> hang in here enough and you will see why.
[13:47] <atomicity> Dr_willis: fair enough :)
[13:47] <Dr_willis> easially 3x a week 'i deleted this file.. how do i get it back...' type questions
[13:47] <atomicity> Dr_willis: funny, I never saw this kind of question on #archlinux :)
[13:47] <Dr_willis> if your hd is only 10% full why not use a trash dir. :) just in case.. costs you very little.
[13:47] <mcloy> iam using amazon cloud. and installed postfix. if i change /etc/hosts and etc/hostname . it will not cause any problem?
[13:48] <atomicity> Dr_willis: because I like my rm to work fast.
[13:48] <Dr_willis> atomicity,  the answer in there is always 'you idiot to read the wiki' also..
[13:48] <escott> marsfligth, you can shift+delete to bypass the trash in the gui
[13:48] <Dr_willis> atomicity,   there are 'rm' alternatives that use a trash can also.
[13:49] <atomicity> Dr_willis: also, when I delete stuff, I usually want to delete it. Otherwise I just don't. Git helps too.
[13:49] <Dr_willis> cant really recall much speed differances in rm vs moveing a file either. guess there cases where each may be faster or slower then the other.
[13:50] <honey> i am using ubuntu 10.04 and i would like to use printer and scanner as well but i coudn't find any driver for my scanner HP Scanjet G2410 ?any help
[13:50] <atomicity> Dr_willis: if you are not very, very careful, you can easily move across devices with trash
[13:50] <atomicity> Dr_willis: especially since I always have sshfs filesystems mounted all over the place
[13:50] <Dr_willis> atomicity,  cant say i ever noticed doing that.,
[13:50] <atomicity> Dr_willis: (I do perverse stuff with my mountpoints)
[13:50] <satyanash> That happened to me once.. I moved my Homefolder inside the trash.
[13:51] <satyanash> I don;t know how, But the mount point for my home folder came in trash.
[13:51] <satyanash> I remember fixing something in the Gconf-editor.
[13:52] <atomicity> satyanash: i *knew* it was because you used a gui. Guis are evil.
[13:52]  * atomicity hides
[13:52] <satyanash> atomicity, I stopped using Nautilus after that/
[13:52] <halim> hi, i need to make the /boot partition bigger because of apt-get upgrade and want to make a fat32 partition smaller for this. this is what my hdd looks like: http://image-upload.de/image/1ZrGW9/b8514452c7.png , as you see boot is sda2 and fat32 partition is sda4 would it work to make sda4 smaller and add that memory to sda2?
[13:53] <escott> halim, your boot is probably big enough if you remove some old kernels
[13:53] <atomicity> satyanash: I find nautilus particularly infuriating. Dolphin is quite oh-right though. Only use it for image folders though, gui filemanagers are useless for anything else.
[13:53] <escott> halim, but you cannot resize the current /boot without shrinking the ntfs
[13:53] <atomicity> halim: escott has the right idea
[13:54] <halim> hmm, i'm going to take a look whether there are some older kernels to be removed
[13:54] <halim> thx for the hint
[13:55] <foobArrr> is there an automatic way to remove old kernels?
[13:55] <satyanash> atomicity, I use PCmanFM
[13:55] <escott> halim, dpkg -l "*linux*"; dpkg -r "linux-image-3.0.0-10-generic" copy and pasting the last bit
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> foobArrr: I have a script for it myself :)
[13:56] <Etronik> Fuxking teamviewer is working LOUSY from an ubuntu to another ubuntu !! doesn't allow proper support hell
[13:56] <honey> i am using ubuntu 10.04 and i would like to use printer and scanner as well but i coudn't find any driver for my scanner HP Scanjet G2410 and i was try to compile CompileSaneFromSource but still i coudnt scan is there any help?
[13:57] <atomicity> why does ctrl + alt + backspace not work anymore!!! noooo!!!
[13:57] <bastidrazor> atomicity: alt sysrq k ..replaced it
[13:57] <amram> hi can anyone tell me how to install adobe flash for unity, i dont have it in my ubuntu software
[13:57] <escott> atomicity, nozap has been set by default for a few years now
[13:58] <atomicity> bastidrazor: that's good to know
[13:58] <atomicity> escott: yeah, I also know that. It was a cry of desperation. My X suddenly decided it should turn the screen off.
[13:58] <atomicity> and it seems it is utterly incapable of turning it on again.
[13:59] <dalton2345> honey,  you find something a name similar to ur hp scanner?
[13:59] <atomicity> best thing ever, even ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't go to terminal anymore
[13:59] <foobArrr> Oo
[13:59] <FernandoCueva> atomicity, I use alt left right arrow
[14:00] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: alt left only works if you are already in a vterm
[14:01] <FernandoCueva> oh yea use the service lightdm stop then
[14:01] <honey> dalton2345:no i can't find it simiilar to my hp scanner ?
[14:01] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: I would totally do that if I could ssh to the machine from another, but I have foolishly forgotten to enable the ssh server
[14:02] <atomicity> new install and everything
[14:02] <FernandoCueva> I'm sorry man
[14:02] <atomicity> FernandoCueva: I know, it's a bit tragic
[14:02] <dalton2345> honey, how old is it your scanner
[14:02] <honey> dalton2345:it is new
[14:03] <dalton2345> honey, why you on 10-04 ;)
[14:05] <atomicity> should ctrl+alt+delete work?
[14:05] <atomicity> I mean, does it trigger init 6?
[14:05] <Etronik> Teamviewer : who the hell recommeded that in here! what a piece of crap
[14:05] <honey> dalton2345:just it comfortabl for me?
[14:05] <escott> !sysrq | atomicity
[14:06] <dalton2345> honey, haha i know what you saying, i use the same ;)
[14:06] <eye-gor> honey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870017
[14:06] <ejv> hey guys, i accidentally cut my screen session in half, how do I undo it
[14:07] <atomicity> escott: what do you know, it worked :)
[14:07] <honey> dalton2345:by the way i was following the steps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompileSaneFromSource
[14:09] <eye-gor> honey: no nned to do that check the link I gave you ^^
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: init 6 is shutdown, ctrl+alt+bckspace (or similar) simply restarts x. You can do the same with:  killall -u $USER    too :)
[14:10] <Etronik> man oh man! ubuntu is turning into support nightmare... two setups nothing but trouble - got get this off my chest... it's working fine on MY PC - but wife's and mum's it's a nightmare !!
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: what issues do you have?
[14:11] <someone235> hi, i can't succeed connect to my vsftpd. i write down my username and password, and it says that the login is incorrect
[14:11] <Lirth> How do I mount my second hard drive? It's a SSD I use for gaming (which I will ask about moving my games to in the wine channel).
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> someone235: what clients have you tried?
[14:11] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: I know. Desperate(r) times call for desperate(r) measures.
[14:11] <honey> eye-gor:yeah iwas follow even that instruction but i t coudn't work proporly and i have installed  hplip package proporly   but still it is not working
[14:11] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, 1. intermittent printing on one, and ... thunderbird problems with another..
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: you will mount the partition. If you run:  sudo fdisk -l   do you see the partition?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: what printer make and model do you have and which release are you using?
[14:12] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, and teamviewer just does not work to allow decent or in time troubleshooting
[14:12] <eye-gor> honey: Ah shame that.
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: try ssh instead. much faster :)
[14:12] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, latest 11.10 with an OKI 4600
[14:13] <someone235> ActionParsnip, the default of ubuntu. the "ftp" command
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> someone235: tried filezilla (or do you not have a desktop UI?)
[14:13] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, ssh? that's just a protocol ? what is a fast remote GUI thing..
[14:14] <Lirth> actionparsnip: http://pastebin.com/EewTjXAz
[14:14] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, I'm just desperate, it'ss too much trouble...
[14:15] <Etronik> days and adays on end without a smooth operation, calls, failed teamviewer sessions... a frustrating experience, trying to migrate windows users (non-geek) into ubuntu
[14:15] <Dr_willis> i remote in via ssh :) easier to trouble shoot most of the times. you can monitor the cups logs via ssh easially enough.
[14:15] <Etronik> I'm surprised its working so well on my PC, but I'm a PC guy... so...
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: most times you probably won't need GUI, what sort of troubleshooting so you use?
[14:15] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: I think it's listed.
[14:15] <someone235> ActionParsnip, i tried filezilla either
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: did you grab the English B4400 / B4500 / B4550 / B4600 Linux CUPS PCL Driver from the OKI website?
[14:16] <bittin> lol: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120402
[14:16] <|Anthony|> anyone able to make heads or tails of these logs?
[14:16] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/4y0U9GTF
[14:16] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, no, I conected the printer and followed Ubuntu's wizard... to set it up
[14:17] <Etronik> it all seemed fine
[14:17] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  look at the bright side.. at least its not a canon printer you are fighting with. ;)
[14:17] <Etronik> but it seems to print only one, then kinda looses connectivity with the printer...
[14:17] <Etronik> anyway, I'm going a have a better in-site look later today
[14:17] <aph__> My BT Home Hub3 (wifi) just stopped working on my 11.10 machines today, any ideas?
[14:17] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  networked or usb connection?
[14:18] <Etronik> not in-site... dort of on-site
[14:18] <Etronik> Dr_willis, USb connection
[14:18] <Etronik> and I have no response to the "man.. this just WORKS under windows..." :-/
[14:19] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  watch dmesg output. i have seen usb cables get loose  -  expecially when 'mom' or whoever. starts moveing things around
[14:19] <Etronik> Yeah! eh
[14:19] <Etronik> I've got that covered
[14:19] <scott_z> If I do an upgade (several are available) is there a way to un-upgrade in case of problems (like a Windows, add/remove programs)? and if so.. how?
[14:19] <Etronik> made sure to tell her to make sure cables are securely fit
[14:19] <Dr_willis> for everything that 'just works' under windows.. i can find a dozen things that were 'supposed to just work' and took me hours to get going.. in windows.. :)
[14:20] <Dr_willis> ssh into her box. have her unplug/plug in each usb cable.  the cups web interface may also show some errors. IT could be some odd cups driver bug. ive seen those in the past also.
[14:20] <Etronik> Dr_willis, man, it's a freekin PCL laser printer, how complex can that be ?...
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: grab the driver from teh OKI site, may help. I suggest you delete the printer you have setup now
[14:20] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, yeah, will try to do that
[14:20] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  windows 7 dropped support for my old 'pcl' printer... figure that one out. :)  differnt pcl drivers may work for it.
[14:20] <Etronik> although I have no idea how to manually install printer drivers...
[14:21] <Dr_willis> Etronik,  i got a brother networked laser for $99 on sale last year.. best laser ive ever had.
[14:21] <Dr_willis> replaced my 14+yr old hp 6l.
[14:21] <Etronik> yep! at home I have that... Hl-2030 coonnected via USB to the router...
[14:21] <Etronik> works like a charm
[14:22] <Etronik> although... printing under ubuntu keeps asking me for the SMB password, every time I print...
[14:22] <Etronik> minor PITA
[14:22] <Dr_willis> hmm.. my brother supports smb, hplip, and a dozen other printing protacals.. i dont need to use smb to print to it from linux
[14:23] <Dr_willis> it may be your router only supports smb.
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> bittin: looks like the partition table of the SSD is a bit confused. Does it contain a healthy partition? Is the data encrypted in any way?
[14:23] <Etronik> it's shared via the buffalo NAS
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: you can set the username and password when you map the printer...
[14:23] <Etronik> its not networked, its USB connected to the NAS and shared from there
[14:23] <bittin> ActionParsnip, i never owned an SSD
[14:24] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, maybe, or for sure, but unclear how to do that
[14:24] <bittin> lol: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120402
[14:24] <xi_> m loving this chatroom!
[14:25] <xi_> hey rahim .. can you tell lme some android irc channel
[14:25] <Xabster> #android ?
[14:25] <xi_> or anyone else plz , any android dev. irc channel
[14:25] <Xabster> just did
[14:26] <xi_> didnt get you Xbster ....
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: its part of the process, when you add the printer, read the screen
[14:28] <Etronik> nah, That much I did, I READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY!   I'm old school guy :-)
[14:29] <Etronik> I don't  go pressing OK OK OK  without reading like many guys nowadays  do... ;-)
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: http://www.techotopia.com/images/b/b8/Ubuntu_samba_printer.jpg    see the authentication bit....
[14:30] <Etronik> yeah will do thanks, like I said : minor PITA
[14:30] <Etronik> I have to solve printer problem in wife's work PC, then my Mum's issues...
[14:30] <Etronik> brb
[14:31] <paulus68> I have squid installed how do I prevent showing that my servername and used port is mentioned when checking for example my ipadress at whatismyip.com
[14:32] <honey> eye-gor:how can i use tar -xvzf?
[14:32] <c0nnect3d> hi
[14:33] <honey> eye-gor:iam using those steps on that you give me and see it on step 9?/////////
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> honey: install unp, makes extracting in cli much easier
[14:34] <danger_> HELLO
[14:34] <Matrix> Hi everyone. Im having issues trying to install Ubunut on Alienware Laptop. Wanted to know if there was a way to PRELOAD propriatary drivers into the install iso ?
[14:35] <Lirth> What partition table type should I use?
[14:35] <mcloy> i need help , i need to send emails by php. i have installed postfix but people say that i dont have a fqdn and no /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts valid entry.     what should i do?
[14:35] <eye-gor> honey: if you have a tar file just right click it and choose extract here
[14:35] <Rapid2214> mcloy: Use phpmailer
[14:36] <Dr_willis> paulus68,  im not sure thats in any way a 'squid' feature.
[14:36] <jpsullia> CAN I GET TV TUNER DRIVER......
[14:36] <scott_z> If I do an upgade (several are available) is there a way to un-upgrade in case of problems (like a Windows, add/remove programs)? and if so.. how?
[14:37] <Matrix> Anyone know of a way to slipstream  propriatary drivers into the install iso ?
[14:37] <escott> Lirth, if the disk is <2TB and you dont have an efi system use msdos.
[14:37] <llutz> mcloy: add "<IP_ADDRESS> your.fqdn.tld" to /etc/hosts
[14:37] <Dr_willis> !remaster | Matrix
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Matrix: you can remaster the ISO and add whatever you want
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: please drop the caps
[14:37] <eye-gor> honey: or if cli the it would be tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[14:37] <Lirth> escott: What is an efi system?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: how about some details on the device, much more useful.
[14:37] <jpsullia> OK
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> eye-gor: honey: or:    unp filename.tar.gz
[14:38] <CharminTheMoose> Does buffer/cache get swapped to disk eventually? Say I have several large files in /dev/shm?
[14:38] <jpsullia> BT878 CARD
[14:38] <xi_> ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: and how does it connect to the system?
[14:39] <escott> Lirth, a replacement for bios. if your computer is brand new you might have efi but you probably have bios
[14:39] <jpsullia> PCI CARD
[14:39] <Matrix> ActionParsnip: So I can add nvida drivers to the install process ?
[14:39] <escott> CharminTheMoose, when there is memory pressure it will get swapped or dropped
[14:39] <Somelauw> Hi, whenever I use espeak it works, but I do get an error: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[14:40] <Seryth> babble-: ?
[14:40] <Lirth> escott: How do I tell if I have efi? I know I have some fancy GUI from my motherboard when I mess with overclocking/boot menu. (I haven't used it for anything else).
[14:40] <Seryth> or babble?
[14:40] <CharminTheMoose> escott, can actual files like stuff in /dev/shm get dropped? :/
[14:40] <escott> Lirth, well does that fancy gui support your mouse? does it say "efi" or "uefi" anywhere
[14:41] <Lirth> escott: That's what I mean by fancy GUI. It's graphic (with the mouse).
[14:41] <escott> CharminTheMoose, only true caches will get dropped (ie the vfs layer keeping a file it just read in memory)
[14:41] <FernandoCueva> HOW do I copy a driver from one linux that has the right driver and move it to another linux that doesn't have the driver
[14:41] <CharminTheMoose> escott, ahh yes, thank you.
[14:41] <Seryth> babble: Hello?
[14:42] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  if you are lucky the packages are cached in /var/cache/apt/ (or was it /var/apt/cache
[14:42] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  also depends on the drivers in question
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Matrix: you can if you want, they are just packages like any other, bit pointless as they are available once you get booted....
[14:42] <babble> Seryth: I'm here, but I'm also knee deep in something in #xubuntu
[14:43] <babble> if I get laggy, msg me
[14:43] <escott> Lirth, sounds like it might be a uefi system which sucks. in that case you probably need to be using gpt partition, and you will need to install grub-efi fork. many efi systems can boot bios so you could also try a msdos partition and normal plain old grub
[14:43] <FernandoCueva> cool
[14:43] <jpsullia> ?
[14:44] <mcloy> llutz, cat /etc/hots <IP_ADDRESS>     mail.open-pages.com mail
[14:44] <mcloy> <IP_ADDRESS>       ip-10-111-31-180.ec2.internal ip-10-111-31-180
[14:44] <Dr_willis> jpsullia,  if you clearly ask your question and give details on one line. it makes it much easier to read.
[14:44] <Lirth> escott: Can we play "Linux's intro to morons"? Basically, you say what you just said, but so that I can understand it. :D
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: ok and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:44] <Dr_willis> jpsullia,  you may also want to check the askubuntu.com site to see if others have had to do anything special to get that card to work.
[14:44] <jpsullia> one  sec......
[14:45] <escott> Lirth, you've got fancy hardware and lots of headaches associated with that (in the future don't buy the most expensive thing). is ubuntu going to be the only os? is ubuntu going to be controlling the boot? how many disks do you have?
[14:45] <install1> is it possible to run the ubuntu setup from hard disk?
[14:45] <FernandoCueva> there's nothing there Dr_willis  any other wey
[14:45] <mcloy> llutz, is that correct?
[14:46] <jpsullia> output " lucid"
[14:46] <FernandoCueva> only a lock file and a partial folder both empty to 0 bytes
[14:46] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  depends on the driver you are looking for.
[14:46] <Lirth> escott: I hope to keep ubuntu as the only one. Ubuntu is controlling the boot (through GRUB, I believe). I have two disks. The 1 TB HDD and the 120 GB SSD.
[14:46] <escott> install1, no, there have been attempts to make a debboostrap work with ubuntu, but i dont think that they are supported
[14:46] <FernandoCueva> how to find out what version or driver name it has Dr_willis
[14:46] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  i dont even know what Device you are looking for a driver for....
[14:46] <jpsullia> ?
[14:47] <Slasher`> does anyone know what the old ubuntu netbook interface is called, and how to install it on the newest ubuntu if that's even possible?
[14:47] <FernandoCueva> Dr_willis, it's a network card
[14:47] <Dr_willis> Slasher`,  it became unity.. and basically is the default.
[14:47] <Slasher`> ah damn
[14:47] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  that narrows it down to 1000+ devices...
[14:47] <Slasher`> i don't like unity, it's not as easy on touch screens lol
[14:47] <FernandoCueva> it's an atheros chipset card Dr_willis
[14:48] <escott> Lirth, so based on disk size you should be able to use an msdos partition type, and most uefi systems should support a bios/mbr style boot for the time being. i would recommend that you try an msdos partition and just install the normal version of grub to the mbr (ie do nothing fancy and pretend it is a bios system) if that works just stick with it
[14:48] <Slasher`> dont suppose there were any forks before hand?
[14:48] <Dr_willis> Slasher`,  its supposed to eventually be targeted at touchscreens
[14:48] <Slasher`> fingers crossed then
[14:48] <Dr_willis> lubuntu and kde/kubuntu have netbook 'interface options' also. but never used them
[14:48] <Lirth> escott: I'm trying to install it for the SSD (120 GB). Does the same thing follow?
[14:48] <mcloy>  llutz  you ther?//
[14:48] <Slasher`> it has come a long way since i first used it, but i still don't deem it as usable just yet
[14:48] <Slasher`> i will check them out, thanks Dr_willis
[14:49] <install1> how should i run the ubuntu setup cd via grub4dos?
[14:49] <foobArrr> I'd like to bind gnome-do or synapse or kupfer to Super. possible? like gnome3's activities.
[14:49] <escott> Lirth, yes. anything less than 2TB is small enough for an msdos partition table. you don't have to use gpt until something like 2.5TB or 3TB (cant remember exactly what)
[14:49] <Dr_willis> FernandoCueva,  you may want to check askubuntu.com about your exact chipset. it may have some guides on exactly what files you need to copy over.
[14:50] <escott> FernandoCueva, atheros is usually well supported
[14:50] <Lirth> escott: So then how would I do it without the fancy uefi? How would I install grup?
[14:50] <walidvb> hi fellow unbuntues!
[14:50] <Lirth> escott: grub*
[14:50] <walidvb> i'm trying open ssh ports to give access to certain ppl to my machine
[14:51] <walidvb> i tried several things, with no success...
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: do you use a router?
[14:51] <walidvb> i did open port 22 in my routeur,
[14:51] <walidvb> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: and did you set the port forward there?
[14:51] <escott> Lirth, you would install a normal version of grub to the mbr, and after the uefi posts it would switch to its bios emulation layer and boot the mbr. unless you have some desire for other uefi "features" that will get you booting
[14:51] <walidvb> i would like to have a fixed IP, would be the best, but not mandatory
[14:52] <walidvb> ActionParsnip: i did, fwd port 22 to the ip of my machine
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: use noip or dydns then you can use a name, you wn't crae what your IP is then
[14:52] <walidvb> right now, i tried a config that says IP Passthrough(not sure exactly what that is)
[14:52] <walidvb> ok
[14:52] <walidvb> dydns
[14:52] <walidvb> lemme check
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: both are fine
[14:52] <walidvb> free?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: I use noip personally, both are free
[14:53] <ingmar_> Hi
[14:53] <ingmar_> i have a quick question, what is the default location of .bash_profile in ubuntu? i can't seem to find it
[14:53] <Lirth> escott: So how would I remove the old version of grub and then get the normal one installed?
[14:53] <escott> walidvb, dyndns changed things around. you get 1 free after giving a CC number for a free trial (supposedly -- I got grandfathered in so I haven't registered recently)
[14:53] <escott> Lirth, what do you mean by that? what old version?
[14:54] <escott> ingmar_, trick question. there isn't one :)
[14:54] <Lirth> escott: The one I have installed now.
[14:54] <walidvb> escott: thx
[14:54] <ingmar_> ty.. so i suppose i create one? and where would i do that ? /bin?
[14:55] <escott> Lirth, if you are reinstalling to the whole disk (which asking about partition table types suggests you are) then it will be overwritten
[14:55] <walidvb> ActionParsnip: so i created that, but still have a router config problem...
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: did you try rebooting the router? some home grade stuff needs that
[14:55] <walidvb> yup
[14:55] <walidvb> is ip passthrough needed?
[14:55] <escott> ingmar_, put it in ~ and source if from your .bashrc
[14:55] <ingmar_> sorry?
[14:56] <Lirth> escott: It's asking for the partition table on my second drive. I don't want to wipe my main drive (that would be bad).
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> walidvb: i'd grab your manual, see if it can shed any light
[14:56] <escott> Lirth, and that can be msdos, unless you desire otherwise
[14:57] <walidvb> ActionParsnip: hm alright, will try that.
[14:57] <Lirth> escott: So do I still need to mess with grub?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ingmar_: there is /etc/bash.bashrc for global bashrc goodness
[14:57] <erinaceus> Hi, i could use some help setting up my three displays, i had a working xorg.conf under ubuntu, but now i've changed to lubuntu and it doesnt work anymore
[14:58] <ingmar_> thank you i found it!
[14:58] <escott> Lirth, with "I might have uefi but am not sure" in mind I would suggest you just do everything with msdos. the moment you start adding gpt in there you might end up with some situation where the uefi insists upon booting via efi boot and then you have to mess with grub-efi. Its up to you in the end, whatever you want to do
[14:58] <ingmar_> thanks for the help @escott
[14:58] <Lirth> escott: Sounds good.
[14:58] <jpsullia> ?
[15:00] <escott> jpsullia, you haven't done much to help us help you. check linuxtv.org to see if your hardware is supported. not sure what else to tell you
[15:01] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, re, can you ellaborate better on that ssh remote con trol thing ? :)
[15:01] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, it it a command line remote access ?
[15:01] <mohsin^> hi
[15:03] <mohsin^> I am looking at building a pc to play digital audio and video content in HD
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: you can remote connect to the system and type commands, or run GUI apps securely over the SSH connection
[15:03] <mohsin^> i think i had seen a unbuntu variant .. but dont recall the name
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: you can also securely transfer files between the 2 systems
[15:04] <Etronik> mohsin^,  get RasperryPi
[15:04] <mohsin^> can you please point me to it
[15:04] <escott> mohsin^, software? xbmc?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> mohsin^: trimslice :)
[15:04] <GrandePain> hey are u there?
[15:04] <Lirth> What file system should I use if I'm going to try to run Wine programs off of it? I was told to use a linux format but the only things I really understood was to not use Fat or NTFS.
[15:05] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, can ya get me a couple links to get strated easy? I'm thinking FeeNX or something like that, I need GUI because I'm not guru in command line
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: any, wine doesn't care as long as the data has appropriate access for the app to run
[15:05] <escott> Lirth, wine doesn't care what the underlying fs is
[15:05] <Etronik> mohsin^,  google RaspberryPi
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: well, what are you fixing remotely exactly?
[15:05] <escott> Etronik, ssh -X user@host; then run your gui program by name
[15:05] <Lirth> ActionParsnip, escott: Is there any file system that works better or worse?
[15:05] <mohsin^> thanks ActionParsnip , escott and Etronik  . .. let me see .. none of these ring a bell .. but these might be even better options
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Lirth: not really, no. The default Ext4 will be fine
[15:06] <Lirth> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[15:06]  * ActionParsnip wants a trimslice :(
[15:06] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, escott : don't forget I can access from home's Ubuntu as well as from Work's Windows system
[15:06] <GrandePain> heyy can u give answer me?
[15:06] <escott> !ask | GrandePain
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> GrandePain: whom are you talking to?
[15:07] <Etronik> ActionParsnip, escott :_ I need to troubleshoot or help my Mum using Ubuntu... simple stuff like "I got the window up there and I can't reach it" to "thunderbird is fubar"
[15:07] <GrandePain> is wine really running windows app. ?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: could use vnc via ssh tunnel for security
[15:07] <escott> Etronik, in that case you need to install a xvnc or the like
[15:07] <escott> !vnc | Etronik
[15:07] <Etronik> VNC is too slow...
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> GrandePain: it runs windows apps, it doesn't run windows itself. Not all apps work
[15:07] <Etronik> yeah, FreeNX is the ay I think
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Etronik: try alternatives then, remeber to keep an eye on security
[15:08] <Etronik> yeah, FreeNX is the way I think
[15:08] <GrandePain> i see thx humanson
[15:08] <pambos> The ftp upload in not working for a particular site on my server (the server runs plesk). The permission i gave to that folder is 755. any ideas?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> pambos: not very secure....
[15:10] <escott> Etronik, the problem with freenx and the like is you have to modify her login so that you can take over the existing session
[15:11] <pambos> ActionParsnip: Folders 755 and files 644 is not secure?
[15:12] <escott> pambos, ftp in general is unsecure. you might consider switching to sftp which can be jailed fairly easily these days
[15:13] <Etronik> escott, oh I don't mind that...
[15:13] <Etronik> neither does she
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> pambos: the 4s and 5s are fine, 7s can be dodgey especially how weak ftp is with security
[15:14] <pambos> escott: how can i switch to sftp?
[15:15] <escott> Etronik, you aren't understanding what im saying. an X server accepts request from the app and draws them to the display. when you she starts her X server it draws to her screen. thats it. trying to move (or mirror) those apps to another x server will crash most apps. X is network transparent, but not network aware in the sense you need.
[15:16] <escott> pambos, install openssh-server and then look at http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/
[15:16] <Etronik> escott, so... I got to go VNC route ?
[15:17] <escott> pambos, if you have a limited number of users then you can create auth-keys for them (or have them give you their pub keys) and dispense with passwords entirely
[15:17] <pambos> escott: i have 100+ users on the server. do you think it gonna be easy to switch to sftp?
[15:18] <tyler_d> such fun learning stuff from escott :)
[15:18] <Etronik> boy this is complex stuff
[15:18] <Etronik> it will take ages to configure this on two distinct PC...
[15:19] <escott> Etronik, it would be very complex to do what you want, and vnc is pretty decent over low bandwidth connections. im not sure you can expect anything substantially better from freenx (although im sure their marketing documents suggest otherwise)
[15:19] <escott> tyler_d, hopefully you arent being facetious
[15:19] <Etronik> I see
[15:19] <tyler_d> escott: not at all sir
[15:20] <Etronik> I'll try VNC then, since Teamviewer was such a bust
[15:20] <escott> Etronik, i've never actually used freenx so its worth a try, but try it over ssh -X then
[15:20] <escott> Etronik, then if it works, you can think about trying to set up some X redirection on the local client so you can steal access
[15:22] <atomicity> how does upgrading ubuntu between major versions work?
[15:22] <atomicity> is there a clear upgrade path?
[15:22] <tyler_d> anyone successfully set up a dial-up modem? where did you get the actual device path? ie. /dev/bar
[15:23] <escott> Etronik, freenx could do what you want, but you would have to instruct your mom to login and then open the freenx client back to her own machine, and then when she gets into difficults suspend the session and contact you
[15:23] <dalton2345> Dr_willis, it works, i deleted swap, i'm doing ubuntu updates :0
[15:23] <dalton2345> :)
[15:23] <jpsullia> i am using frontech PCI tv tuner but as per Linux Device Manager its showing BT878 video ( *** UNKNOWN/GENER
[15:23] <jenesaispas> hello there
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:23] <irenicus09> hi anyone knows a good GUI interface for 7z @gnome3?
[15:24] <jpsullia> lucid
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: install p7zip-full p7zip and p7zip-rar and the right click menu with be able to extract it, just like ANY other compressed file
[15:24] <Etronik> escott, freenx back to her !?... thats getting too complex even for me
[15:24] <escott> atomicity, yes but you cannot jump releases except for lts -> lts
[15:24] <Etronik> I need to take a deep breath
[15:25] <escott> Etronik, try vnc first
[15:25] <Etronik> I might as well just  get them back to windows
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: will you please type the nick of the person you are addressing. The room gets very busy and your replys will be lost
[15:25] <Etronik> lunch - bbl
[15:25] <scott_z> How do I edit the GRUB menu to point to a different default kernel?
[15:25] <atomicity> escott: what do you mean?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: just type:   act   and hit TAB, then your text to me will highlight, just mlike my text to you highlights
[15:25] <atomicity> escott: oh, you can't skip one
[15:25] <escott> atomicity, if you want to go 10.10-> 11.10 you have to go through 11.04 first, but you can jump 10.04->12.04
[15:26] <jpsullia> escoot please help me
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/how-configure-nebula-tv-card-ubuntu-10-04-help-198689111.html
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> jpsullia: again, use TAB and it will autocomplete
[15:26] <escott> jpsullia, this is all i know http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Bt878
[15:26] <atomicity> escott: but that only means an extra time investment right?
[15:26] <atomicity> escott: no other hassle
[15:27] <jpsullia> ok letme check
[15:27] <dalton2345> jpsullia, you have trouble with your tv card
[15:27] <dalton2345> is it usb?
[15:27] <GrandePain> ubuntu or mint?
[15:27] <jpsullia> no pci card
[15:28] <escott> atomicity, at some point it makes more sense to just reinstall, but theoretically it should work. given how well the user data vs system data is encapsulated and the ability to do things like !clone all the installed apps, i usually end up reinstalling every couple of years anyways
[15:28] <mcloy> !msmtp
[15:28] <GrandePain> hey can u say program for programming at linux?
[15:29] <atomicity> escott: I'm used to rolling-release distros
[15:29] <LjL> GrandePain: this channel is for Ubuntu technical support, please avoid the "ubuntu or mint" and such things
[15:29] <escott> GrandePain, this channel is not for polling.
[15:29] <atomicity> escott: this concept of an os version number is new to me
[15:29] <escott> atomicity, in principle its not different. its just rolling once every 6 months instead of everyday
[15:31] <atomicity> escott: will apt warn me when I need to upgrade (or I just run dist-upgrade) or what? I unpinned ubuntu software center, it seems unnecesarry
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: so "Windows 2000", "windows XP", "Windows NT 4" are new to you?
[15:32] <dalton2345> jpsullia which ubuntu you using
[15:33] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: 1) no and 2) I consider windows versioning retarded anyway
[15:33] <escott> atomicity, so there are some confusing terms with this. apt-get --upgrade upgrades packages with new security releases/bug fixes but not feature improvements. sometimes there are conflicts within bug fixes (ie fix A must be applied before B, or A and B must be applied simulataneously) and that gets you an apt-get --dist-upgrade, but that is NOT an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10. those come with another script do-release-upgrade (and a gui f
[15:33] <escott> or that) which does some more complicated things. the update-manager gui should prompt you when a release upgrade is available
[15:33] <walidvb_> ActionParsnip: i'm pretty sure i'm doing everything right, just 1 thing is missing
[15:33] <walidvb_> but i can't figure out what...
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: its quite logical if you use: ver   XP = Windows 5  Vista = 6  Win7 = 7
[15:34] <walidvb_> if i can ssh locally, that means that on the device side, everything is correct, and i should check only the router, right?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: nothing retarded there at all...
[15:34] <escott> walidvb_, you might have a firewall check iptables -L
[15:34] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: I don't mean version numbering, I mean that windows doesn't have a package manager and that a simple kernel reinstallation forces you to upgrade the whole system.
[15:34] <escott> walidvb_, of gufw
[15:35] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: it's as if you had to reinstall all your application from linux 2.6.18 to linux 2.6.31
[15:35] <walidvb_> escott: just installed it and added a rule for port 22
[15:35] <atomicity> it's retarded.
[15:35] <escott> atomicity, thats not really true. ms update pushes "kernel" updates relatively frequently
[15:35] <walidvb_> escott: but if i can access on LAN, that means firewall had nothing to do with that, no?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: oh yes, but you said the concept of an OS version number was new to you...
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> escott: update tuesday :)
[15:36] <atomicity> ActionParsnip: within the linux ecosystem. Ms doesn't do a major os every half a year.
[15:36] <escott> ActionParsnip, in my case update once every 3 months when i want to play civ fridays
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> escott: we update at work every night, its a drag
[15:36] <atomicity> also, I was using too strong language, I apologies.
[15:36] <atomicity> apologise, even.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> atomicity: thats how they want to manage updates. NP man :)
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> escott: freeciv..?
[15:37] <walidvb_> escott: ?
[15:38] <escott> atomicity, they also have a different market. their primary retail market is not their consumers but their oems. why bother making it easier for a retail user to update their os when you can just push a brand new pc on them
[15:38] <sebastien> hello
[15:38] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip, why do an update every nite
[15:38] <escott> ActionParsnip, no expensive $ steam civ
[15:38] <Guest13947> i have a problem i don t understand with vlc can t read a video .mov?
[15:38] <escott> walidvb_, depend on how the rule is setup. the rule could be setup to say "local network only"
[15:39] <walidvb_> escott: ok
[15:39] <walidvb_> it says 'anywhere'
[15:39] <dalton2345> .mov is not a video
[15:39] <escott> walidvb_, then it the router
[15:39] <dalton2345> vlc play about everything...but .mov i never seen it
[15:39] <walidvb_> argh
[15:39] <walidvb_> :(
[15:39] <Guest13947> but my video is  .mov
[15:40] <escott> Guest13947, have you tried installing ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:40] <Guest13947> no i m a newbie
[15:40] <dalton2345> whats .mov...sorry i never seen it
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> dalton2345: many many many servers, we have a patch approval system so we need to apply them. We're working o a system to push them out. Wanted to use shavlik but its not appropriate for our setup
[15:40] <atomicity> escott: Yeah, I agree. the 'retarded' was meant 'for the end user', not for ms. FOr them, the scheme is obviously profitable, and if you don't have a subscription model the only way you can make long term support work is by major versions.
[15:40] <Guest13947> t s a quicktime format
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest13947: install w32codecs from medibuntu repo (or w64codecs for 64bit OS)
[15:41] <dalton2345> ActionParsnip, ha ok that would explain ;)
[15:41] <Guest13947> where can i find this codecs?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest13947: re-read what I wrote...
[15:41] <walidvb> escott: ssh is tcp, right?
[15:41] <dalton2345> yep its a codec issue
[15:42]  * ActionParsnip listens for the penny
[15:42] <Guest13947> i  ve read it but i don t know where medibuntu repo
[15:42] <escott> walidvb, yes
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu
[15:43] <walidvb> ok i had created a service with port 22, but apparently using the built-in ssh service did the trick
[15:43] <Guest13947> thanks a lot i ll try
[15:48] <Overloadscrash> hey
[15:49] <Overloadscrash> kann mir jmd weiterhelfen und sagen wieso ich zur zeit keine flash-videos in ff 11 mehr laufen lassen kann?
[15:50] <escott> !de | Overloadscrash
[15:50] <Overloadscrash> ok sry
[15:53] <foobArrr> has compiz a log somewere? crashed a few times
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> foobArrr: /var/log maybe
[15:58] <sebastien__> i install w workm 32 codecs and it doesn t
[15:58] <foobArrr> already checked that, nothing from compiz there
[15:58] <sebastien__> work sorry
[16:01] <sebastien__> my vlc don t read .mov video. i ll try to install the w32 codecs and it doens t work
[16:03] <bastidrazor> foobArrr: i think ~/.xsession-errors has some in it.
[16:04] <foobArrr> thx
[16:06] <foobArrr> -rw------- 1 me me 93M 2012-04-01 18:03 .xsession-errors    93M, wtf
[16:06] <foobArrr> delete and wait for next crash?
[16:07] <sebastien__> i need help with vlc
[16:08] <scott_z> how can i check what version of the kernel I am running?
[16:08] <sebastien__> i don t understand with it can t read a .mov video?
[16:08] <foobArrr> scott_z: uname -r
[16:08] <foobArrr> or uname -a for more
[16:09] <ardian> Hi I need some help installing bumblebee
[16:09] <berni> hi everybody ! i want help to my friend, can u guys vote this page http://www.tinyurl.pl?yxhPld9C
[16:09] <sebastien__> babble?
[16:09] <scott_z> ok, just downloaded update to 3.0.0-17..... and it is not in the grub loader. how do I boot with that?
[16:09] <babble> hi sebastien__
[16:10] <sebastien__> hi how are you?
[16:10] <sebastien__> i ll have another problem
[16:10] <sebastien__> this time with vlc
[16:11] <babble> I'm going to need some context for that
[16:11] <babble> brb
[16:12] <foobArrr> scott_z: try sudo update-grub
[16:12] <compdoc> scott_z, its funny, but I think the same thing happened to me not long ago. But run apt-get upgrade again and make sure you actually installed it, sinece kernel upgrades tend to be kept back and not installed unless you specify it
[16:13] <ardian> I have two graphic cards in my laptop nvidia supports optimus and my fan is making too much noise without any reason can I disable nvidia on ubuntu and use the intel card ?
[16:13] <sebastien__> vlc codecs??
[16:13] <escott> ardian, check the bios and see if it lets you
[16:13] <ardian> escott, no :
[16:13] <walidvb> i managed to open shs, now i'm trying to check if i have a certain port open to the public? i am trying to use the network tools to check which port is open, but i have no result at all..!
[16:13] <walidvb> (sry i'm a bit of a noob here .. :/)
[16:13] <ardian> escott, it's freebios but I don't want to mess with it
[16:14] <escott> ardian, you have freebios on a laptop?!
[16:14] <ardian> I found something called bumblebee but not sure
[16:14] <ardian> escott, Yes
[16:14] <scott_z> foobArrr: that seemed to work on the terminal line. I also downloaded the x64 version but I did not see that update. I will try a reboot to see. brb
[16:14] <escott> ardian, i think ironhide replaces it, but with freebios.... did you put freebios on there or was it shipped
[16:14] <sebastien__> what means brb?
[16:15] <scott_z> brb=be right back
[16:15] <Sidoniuns> Hello! I have a lenovo G470, and I install ubuntu 11.10, but my microphone doesn't work. Does anyone know what the problem?
[16:15] <escott> ardian, and surely you dont mean freebios, you mean coreboot right?
[16:15] <ardian> escott, Freebios
[16:16] <ardian> I just want to stop this GPU fan
[16:16] <ardian> takes too much battery too
[16:16] <sebastien__> babble are you back?
[16:16] <bastidrazor> walidvb: netstat does really well. i use 'netstat -napt'
[16:17] <berni> everybody please vote here http://www.redbullpaperwings.com/pl/voting/PL for my friend TOMASZ CHODYRA
[16:17] <walidvb> bastidrazor: and then the ip that i want?
[16:17] <llutz> berni: stop spamming
[16:17] <berni> ok sorry for spam
[16:18] <walidvb> bastidrazor: 'requires an argument'
[16:19] <scott_z> foobArrr: only .16 in boot list not .17... any other ideas?
[16:19] <walidvb> bastidrazor: sry my bad. this returns all appsthat are using a port, right?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> scott_z: run:   sudo update-grub
[16:21] <bastidrazor> walidvb: yes.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Sidoniuns: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh       Thanks
[16:22] <scott_z> ActionParsnip: already ran that. that seems to be the problem, it is not in the boot list. just ran grub-customizer and it IS in there. Umm...
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> scott_z: in /etc/default/grub   is the default set to 0?
[16:22] <walidvb> bastidrazor: i have an app that requires 17446 and a range of ports... to be accessible from anywhere, knowing my ip
[16:23] <walidvb> bastidrazor: unfortunately i can't install the app on this end, but i need to get a machine up and ready for tmrw. so, check if ports are open.
[16:23] <starn> hey in ubuntu yesterday youtube looked perfectly fine.. but today almost all the videos have a blue tint? other sites with video seem to work fine.. my video files show just fine. is this a april fools joke google is doing? or is my computer some how messing up?
[16:23] <scott_z> yes GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[16:24] <bastidrazor> walidvb: all ports are closed unless you have some service running or you set an iptables rule to open them.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> starn: there is an april fools on youtube today
[16:24] <zykotick9> starn: it was an update to flash prior to April 1st, so no joke.  Sorry I haven't heard of a solution.  Good luck.  Curious, are you using nvidia?
[16:25] <ubuntu_> i cant start the system as i get a error message ...unable to enumerate USB device on port 8...what should i do_....i am running a Live CD right now and my distro is Oneiric
[16:25] <walidvb> iptable is at the machine level, and service would have to be set at router level..?
[16:25] <starn> zykotick9: ok apparently windows users have it too.. gah i hate april 1st sometimes
[16:25] <bindi> greetings, is it normal that I only have "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" in my /etc/network/interfaces? no auto eth0, yet it works?
[16:26] <esperanto> hi
[16:26] <zykotick9> bindi: yes it's normal.  Network-Manager is controlling your eth/wlan card.
[16:26] <esperanto> what does ubiquity do?
[16:26] <bindi> zykotick9: so can I go poking around it and it will go by that file then? i'm following a guide on bridged vpn
[16:27] <esperanto> what does ubiquity do?
[16:27] <zykotick9> bindi: ahh, if you specifiy an interface in /etc/network/interfaces it will disabled N-M of that device.  Bridging an N-M might be an issue.  Hope this isn't a portable computer.
[16:28] <bindi> N-M? and yes it's a mini lappy with a dead screen
[16:28] <starn> so, i assume youtube will be back to its normal colors tomorrow?
[16:28] <ubuntu_> could someone help me fix this issue_...i am having trouble starting the system as in the boot moment i get the error message...unable to enumerate USB device on port 8
[16:28] <zykotick9> bindi: N-M = Network Manager
[16:29] <esperanto> what does ubiquity do?
[16:29] <kanliot> install ubuntu
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: it install ubuntu from liveCD, please don't repeat like that it will get you ignored more thn helped
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: its also really annoying
[16:29] <dugzino> to which the barman says "may I push in your stool?" LMAO!!
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: you could have also looked in software centre, it tells you what all the packages do.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: or ask ubottu
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> !info ubiquity | esperanto
[16:30] <rammyIRC> using ubuntu 11.10 in HP dvd4t , could not detect SD card. How to solve this?
[16:30] <ficarra1002> Ok, anyone want to help me? Running into a problem with my wireless driver.
[16:30] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip, would you help me out please_...if you have time though
[16:30] <Sidoniuns> thacks ActionParsnip
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: ask the channel and it will reply if it can
[16:31] <esperanto> ActionParsnip: because that's not what i meant. I mean does it copy ubuntu from live disk to hard disk, then erase its self?
[16:31] <bindi> zykotick9: so i'm not sure what you're trying to say.. can i do it or not lol
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> rammyIRC: do you see the reader in the output of:  lsusb
[16:31] <rammyIRC> nope
[16:31] <zykotick9> bindi: yes, setup your bridge in /etc/network/interfaces - but it's going to disable N-M.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> esperanto: the liveCD runs in RAM, the installer eseentially creates the partitions then installs the packages on the install CD to that partition
[16:31] <foobArrr> scott_z: is the package really installed? "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image-3.0.0-17" or synaptic tell you
[16:32] <bindi> zykotick9: i'm fine by that, as long as it's still connected
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rammyIRC: do you have the latest BIOS?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rammyIRC: are there any bugs reported?
[16:32] <zykotick9> bindi: do you use wireless here?
[16:32] <bindi> zykotick9: no, wireless disabled
[16:32] <foobArrr> is there a "better" way to check if a package is installed than "dpkg --get-selections | grep foo"?
[16:32] <ubuntu_> i am on a live CD right now because i am having trouble starting the system is in the boot moment i get an error message saying....unable to enumerate USB device on port 8...what should i do_
[16:32] <zykotick9> bindi: nice.  then it should be "relatively" straight forward then ;)  Good luck.
[16:33] <llutz> foobArrr: apt-cache policy package
[16:33] <foobArrr> thanks
[16:33] <rammyIRC> actionparsnip: i have not seen the bugs getting reported for this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/910326/
[16:33] <zykotick9> foobArrr: "dpkg -l | grep foo" is a bit shorter then the one you where using ;)
[16:33] <esperanto> ActionPaesnip: so it installs packages to hard, or copies the live ubuntu and then modify it?
[16:34] <ubuntu_> is there any way to get to interact to the hard drive from a live CD?
[16:34] <toxiccity90> hi im having trouble enabling my graphics card its a 310M nvidia card im running BT5 r2 which is built off of ubuntu 10.04LTS any ideas??
[16:35] <zykotick9> !backtrack | toxiccity90
[16:35] <toxiccity90> also there is no additional drivers tab. and this is a x64 machine
[16:35] <PsychoX75> hi there. Any of u have tried to make the Logitech Quickcam Orbit work under Ubuntu?
[16:35] <scott_z> foobArrr: yes both ...-17-generic and ...-17-generic-pae are listed
[16:36] <trumee>  does anybody plays game with a joystick?
[16:36] <zykotick9> !anyone | trumee
[16:36] <scott_z> whats a joystick?   :)
[16:36] <esperanto> ActionPaesnip: so it installs packages to hard, or copies the live ubuntu and then modify it?
[16:36] <trumee> I was wondering if there is any native linux game which can be played with a joystick
[16:37] <esperanto> ActionParsnip: so it installs packages to hard, or copies the live ubuntu and then modify it?
[16:37] <goarchgo> trumee: supertuxkart
[16:37] <v3nc3> Hy folks
[16:37] <trumee> goarchgo: thanks.
[16:37] <foobArrr> scott_z: I have no idea then, but I'm most certainly not an expert ;)
[16:37] <trumee> goarchgo: snes9x works fine, but it is too old
[16:38] <auronandace> esperanto: ubiquity is the installer you see on the livecd
[16:38] <scott_z> foobArrr: neither am I.. :)
[16:38] <auronandace> esperanto: it installs ubuntu
[16:38] <ubuntu_> what is the key to stop booting and change kernel?
[16:38] <goarchgo> trumee: if you like fps games urbanterror is very good
[16:38] <scott_z> I consider myself a newbie. Last time I played with linux it came on 13 floppies...  :0
[16:38] <zykotick9> ubuntu_: hold shift after bios (assuming grub2)
[16:39] <trumee> goarchgo: Quake is my favourite, but doesnt work well with joystick i have heard
[16:39] <esperanto> ActionParsnip: one last question so that i understand, if the live cd has xchat installed, will ubiquity copy/install xchat to the hard disk?
[16:39] <KM0201> any fixes for the flash and 10.04 problem?
[16:39] <trumee> goarchgo: i have a PS3 sixaxis joystick
[16:39] <ubuntu_> zykotick9, thanks
[16:39] <trumee> goarchgo: hooked to an htpc. so dont have a keyboard/mice to play
[16:39] <PsychoX75> ok. Another question then. HOW do i check if linux even detected my Webcam?
[16:39] <ubuntu_> zykotick9, do i need to have the live cd in?
[16:39] <goarchgo> trumee: you can map keyboard keys to joystick
[16:40] <trumee> goarchgo: urbanterror works well with joystick?
[16:40] <TorbenBeta> Is there a way to copy and paste a line of text (a command in a txt, viewed on via less) in full screen terminal mode?
[16:40] <dexter__> does any of you have a partition with ubuntu and linux mint?
[16:40] <goarchgo> trumee: if joystick doesn't work with joyutils
[16:40] <esperanto> ActionParsnip: one last question so that i understand, if the live cd has xchat installed, will ubiquity copy/install xchat to the hard disk?
[16:40] <zykotick9> ubuntu_: sorry, i don't think that will work on the LiveCD - that's for something that's installed (using grub2, the livecd doesn't use grub)
[16:40] <scott_z> guess I will start moving image files around and see what happens. I have a boot cd ready just in case.
[16:40] <goarchgo> trumee: or qjoypad.
[16:41] <esperanto> auronandace: one last question so that i understand, if the live cd has xchat installed, will ubiquity copy/install xchat to the hard disk?
[16:41] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: you should use screen to view the command and write down in another window :)
[16:41] <ubuntu_> zykotick9, does oneiric use grub2?
[16:41] <PsychoX75> Anyone in here uses a device called "webcam" at all?!?!?!?!?
[16:41] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, there is no direct method? Is "screen" a command?
[16:41] <goarchgo> trumee: press the joystick but the system will interpret it as a keyboard press or mouse click
[16:41] <zykotick9> ubuntu_: once installed - yes
[16:41] <ubuntu_> thanks
[16:41] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: its just a tip
[16:41] <auronandace> esperanto: ubiquity will install whatever is default for the livecd, i think in ubuntu's case it would be xchat-gnome
[16:42] <trumee> goarchgo: right. i am going to try that. thanks
[16:42] <goarchgo> trumee: :)
[16:42] <esperanto> ok thanx all
[16:42] <esperanto> PsychoX75: install cheese from software center
[16:42] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, thanks then. Screen has no man page therefore I guess you mean the physical sreen?
[16:43] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: screen might not be installed by default
[16:43] <TorbenBeta> What are its advantages to less?
[16:44] <PsychoX75> kay
[16:44] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: Well, its main goal: 'Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical terminal between several processes, typically interactive shells'
[16:44] <auronandace> esperanto: for example, with the xubuntu livecd that comes with xchat (not xchat-gnome) so ubiquity installs xchat with the xubuntu livecd
[16:45] <auronandace> esperanto: xchat-gnome is a stripped down version of xchat
[16:45] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, so is it a window manager à la Nautilus?
[16:45] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: nope
[16:45] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: its like having multiple terminal logins at the same time, but you only need to do that once
[16:46] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, like multiple shells in one session?
[16:46] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: exactly
[16:46] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, but they can interact with each other?
[16:46] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: Please rephrase that last question of yours
[16:47] <bindi> zykotick9: do you happen to know if using that guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN), can the clients reach my local ISP dns servers through the vpn? (push "dhcp-option DNS your.dns.ip.here"
[16:48] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, with pleasure. My question was: I have several shells in one session, and those shells can interact with each other? So I can e.g. pipe informations from child-shell 1 to child-shell 2?
[16:49] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: not exactly
[16:49] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, so they can't interact with each other? As I want to copy a string of text and paste it in my prompt.
[16:50] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: no, but you can always switch back and manually write the command
[16:50] <v3nc3> 18:50 -!- jenia<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Client Quit]
[16:50] <evandro> hello
[16:50] <evandro> anyone from Brazil>
[16:51] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: like you would have two monitors and you can switch to the right one any time you want :)
[16:51] <zykotick9> bindi: sorry, I've never played with VPN stuff - so i wouldn't know.  Best of luck man!
[16:51] <v3nc3> evandro: hy
[16:51] <evandro> hi v3nc3
[16:51] <mcloy> need help with postfix send php based script email .
[16:51] <mcloy> <br />SMTP -> ERROR: AUTH not accepted from server: 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled<br />SMTP -> FROM SERVER:250 2.0.0 Ok
[16:51] <mcloy> <br />SMTP Error: Could not authenticate.
[16:51] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, I could just open a new local workplace instead? (doable in 11.10 per ctl + alt + Fx)
[16:52] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: screen has a copy/paste, but it's only within that one screen session
[16:52] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: yepp pretty much. im stuck with debian :)
[16:53] <TorbenBeta> zykotick9, so I copy my string out of my txt, then paste it in my prompt?
[16:53] <zykotick9> TorbenBeta: that would certainly be possible!
[16:53] <Kruge> What on earth are you trying to achieve?
[16:54] <TorbenBeta> Thank you zykotick9 and v3nc3. Kruge do you mean me?
[16:54] <Kruge> Yes
[16:54] <zykotick9> !who > Kruge
[16:55] <v3nc3> TorbenBeta: you are welcome
[16:55] <TorbenBeta> Well, I have a rather long command stored in a txt. and would like to use it again.
[16:55] <Lirth> How do I create a link between a HDD and a SSD? I need a program to run on the faster drive but it's hidden in wine.
[16:55] <Kruge> zykotick9: Thanks, I learned that trick back in `95
[16:56]  * v3nc3 says goodbye to everyone
[16:56] <v3nc3> bye
[16:57] <Etronik> mas que ca***o de complicação.... irra
[16:57] <mcloy> need help with postfix send php based script email .
[16:57] <mcloy> <br />SMTP -> ERROR: AUTH not accepted from server: 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled<br />SMTP -> FROM SERVER:250 2.0.0 Ok
[16:57] <mcloy> <br />SMTP Error: Could not authenticate.
[16:57] <x11>  /join ubuntu-de
[16:58] <mcloy> x11,  me?
[16:58] <llutz> mcloy: disable smtp-auth
[17:00] <mcloy> llutz,  #smtpd_sasl_auth_enable      = yes
[17:00] <mcloy> ?
[17:01] <mcloy> llutz,  u ther?
[17:01] <llutz> mcloy: it still tries to auth, which the server doesn't accept
[17:02] <mcloy> llutz,  yes. so what should be done ?
[17:03] <llutz> mcloy: check /var/log/mail.err for plain logentries, not this html-crap
[17:04] <Doodie> hi, if i ping -f -s 1000 <local ip>, then it causes the whole network to slowdown a little bit. is it possible not to slow the whole network and just that local ip only?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Doodie: you are using the -f option. What did you expect?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> im not even sure what the -f option does.
[17:05] <Jacsjees> Hi all i am bit new in here just updated my system to 12.04 but not able to do partial update it fails can any one help me please
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Jacsjees: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support
[17:06] <Jacsjees> Thanks actuon
[17:06] <Kruge> I wouldn't update yet
[17:06] <zykotick9> Jacsjees: fyi "partial update" = system will break if continued
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Kruge: been on it since alpha 1 :)
[17:07] <Kruge> Loony.  I`m in the process of re-installing 11.04 on my laptop.  Two days of 12.04 broke my will to live
[17:08] <Kruge> 11.10, rather
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Kruge: very, but all I use is web browsing and chat and my hardware is super linux friendly = few issues
[17:13] <Etronik> I don't f***g understand this ssh command from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Remote_Access#Remote_Access: ssh -l serveruser -L 5900:<IP_ADDRESS>:5900 remoteserver.computer.xyz -p 22
[17:13] <Etronik> help?
[17:13] <llutz> Etronik: vnc tunnel through ssh
[17:14] <Etronik> yeah! that says in the title
[17:14] <compdoc> port 5900 is for vnc
[17:14] <Etronik> WTF I don't get any of this
[17:14] <llutz> Etronik: and? man ssh
[17:14] <compdoc> <IP_ADDRESS> means the same computer youre on
[17:14] <Shirakawasuna> some process is running a command: find . -name *.html
[17:14] <Shirakawasuna> I want to figure out which one spawned it
[17:14] <Shirakawasuna> how do I do that?
[17:14] <Etronik> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:14] <Demaier>
[17:15] <zykotick9> Shirakawasuna: try "pstree" or "htop" in tree mode perhaps
[17:15] <Shirakawasuna> ah good
[17:16] <Shirakawasuna> I kept looking for 'ptree', not pstree
[17:16] <Shirakawasuna> thanks zykotick9
[17:16] <mcloy> need help with postfix send php based script email .
[17:16] <mcloy> <br />SMTP -> ERROR: AUTH not accepted from server: 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled<br />SMTP -> FROM SERVER:250 2.0.0 Ok
[17:16] <mcloy> <br />SMTP Error: Could not authenticate.
[17:17] <escott> Etronik, so that is forwarding port 5900 to <IP_ADDRESS>:5900 and forwarded to remoteserver on port 22 and the login name is serveruser
[17:17] <raido>
[17:18] <escott> Etronik, so you run that command and then start some application that opens port 5900 and that gets pushed into the ssh session and appears on the remoteserver coming in onto port 5900
[17:18] <TorbenBeta> v3nc3, well screen froze my terminal.
[17:18] <vono> Hello, I have  a bug, making the screen turn to black, and return to normal a few times. Then most of the time, X freeze (only an ssh connexion and reboot work, stop lightdm don't). The only log I have is "Apr  1 18:37:02 fixe kernel: [  362.222412] radeon 0000:02:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10000msec"