[11:49] <calmofthestorm7> (can someone give me an idea of how long it ought to take to resize a windows partition, just ballpark? I started about 4 hours ago and it's still going, and I'm afriad for my data)
[11:49] <ismail> yeah i need the 1280X1024
[11:49] <darkstar> ikonia_, Wow thought it would have been harder than that... Thanks. I'll do it right away..
[11:49] <dromer> ismail: you can use any texteditor, do sudo gedit <file> if you want that
[11:49] <ismail> its not in there
[11:49] <ikonia_> calmofthestorm7 depends on how fast your machine is, how big the disk is, how much free space you have, have much data is on and fragmented, - no way to gtell
[11:49] <ikonia_> tell
[11:49] <elw0od> ok
[11:49] <dromer> ismail: than add it
[11:49] <ikonia_> darkstar dead easy
[11:49] <ismail> so i need to add it right
[11:49] <ismail> how
[11:49] <elw0od> i can just change edgy with feisty in sources.list?
[11:49] <dromer> save it (in vim: esc, :wq)
[11:49] <darkstar> ikonia_, ;) brb
[11:50] <ikonia_> elw0od nope
[11:50] <dave84> Hi all, Can anyone help with a wireless problem? I have a Netcomm NP542 card which Edgy found and installed but I get an error with iwconfig of Access Point: Not-Associated? Not sure what to do. Have read everything but I think it must just be a setup problem.
[11:50] <ikonia_> elw0od follow the upgrade process
[11:50] <calmofthestorm7> well, the disk is 70/80 gigs full, before booting ubuntu I wrote the empty space with a bunch of files full of 0's, deleted them, then defragged
[11:50] <dromer> ismail: maybe do gedit indeed, it might be easier for you
[11:50] <calmofthestorm7> 2ghz amd64 with 512 mb ram
[11:50] <elw0od> ikonia,  it's on the wiki?
[11:50] <kidbuntu> how do i change the JAVA runtime that i'm using?
[11:50] <yomm> calmofthestorm : always a good idea backup data before resizing
[11:50] <puppy_beast> darkstar, what is the error msg?
[11:50] <jax> yes ..but i m not sure which one? The following packages are BROKEN:
[11:50] <jax>   realplayer
[11:50] <jax> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:50] <jax> Need to get 22.5kB of archives. After unpacking 213kB will be used.
[11:50] <jax> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:50] <jax>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs which is a virtual package.
[11:50] <ikonia_> calmofthestorm7 I'll say it again, no way to tell
[11:50] <jax> Resolving dependencies...
[11:50] <calmofthestorm7> aright, thanks
[11:50] <ikonia_> elw0odu yup
[11:50] <jax> Unable to resolve dependencies!  Giving up...
[11:50] <dromer> !paste | jax
[11:50] <ubotu> jax: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <ismail> ok and just ass the resolution to all the feilds with resolution settings?
[11:50] <mwe> I've been asking this earlier. Does anyone know how to rename the Applications menu?
[11:50] <dromer> ismail: no just the depth 24, that's the one you probably use
[11:51] <kidbuntu> Frostwire
[11:51] <darkstar> puppy_beast, hold on, let me simulate a package installation so I can write down the error message..
[11:51] <ikonia_> mwe I thought you could just right click on it and rename it
[11:51] <kidbuntu> !Frostwire
[11:51] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:51] <mwe> ikonia_: try it. you can't
[11:51] <ikonia_> mwe sorry, not got an ubuntu box to hand
[11:51] <mwe> ikonia_: well you can't do that
[11:51] <ikonia_> mwe I don't doubt you
[11:52] <dromer> ismail: done it? (vim or gedit?)
[11:52] <ismail> dromer: done it in gedit
[11:53] <mwe> ikonia_: You have to mess with some .menu/.desktop/.directory files in /usr/share and/or /etc I think but I haven't figured how yet
[11:53] <ismail> now i need to restart ubuntu right?
[11:53] <dromer> ismail: ok, saved it?
[11:53] <ismail> yup
[11:53] <dromer> ismail: no, not ubuntu, you need to restart x
[11:53] <steveire> Hey. My windows installation is broken, and it appears I need to edit the registry. Is there some way I can do that from within ubuntu? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/317189 I can mount the partition fine.
[11:53] <ismail> ummmm ctrl alt backspace?
[11:53] <dromer> ismail: do that with: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:53] <Landon> libeel2-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:53] <dromer> ok, gl\
[11:53] <kidbuntu> guys please help me. i can't type anything to this link http://www.meralco.com.ph/#
[11:53] <Landon> Anyone know what that means?
[11:53] <UbuntuGaming183> hallo
[11:53] <kidbuntu> i'm currently using 5.10
[11:53] <jhaig> I have ubuntu installed on a laptop that I regularly connect to two different networks.  On one I need to connect to a web proxy but not on the other, and currently I need to do this when I start a web browser or anything else using http (eg, software updates).  Is it possible to get this done automatically depending on the ip address received from DHCP?
[11:54] <ismail> k
[11:54] <ismail> brb
[11:54] <UbuntuGaming183> kann mir einer von euch sagen wie man das sudo zeitfenster kleiner machen kann ?
[11:54] <UbuntuGaming183> sry
[11:54] <mwe> I don't think ctrl-alt-backspace reloads xorg.conf, does it. I usually have to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart for that
[11:54] <darkstar> puppy_beast, graphiviz-cairo post-installation subbprocess script has returned an error 127
[11:54] <dromer> mwe: I thought it does ... it has worked for me ..
[11:54] <UbuntuGaming183> does anyone know how to change the timewindow of the sudo comment ?
[11:55] <renaud_> mwe, it does for me, and I have a default gdm config
[11:55] <ismail> weeeee thanks a mil man
[11:55] <ismail> :D
[11:55] <mwe> I see
[11:55] <jax> what is the best way to find solve resolve dependencies if a package is BROKEN..like realplayer...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7016/
[11:55] <dromer> ismail: it worked? :)
[11:55] <ismail> yeah woked
[11:55] <ismail> thank u alot
[11:55] <dromer> ok, and you learned something too ;)
[11:55] <dromer> no prob
[11:55] <dromer> later
[11:55] <UbuntuGaming183> hello
[11:55] <ismail> dromer where can i read more about doing stuff like that
[11:56] <neo_> can someone help me??
[11:56] <elw0od> neo_, ask :)
[11:56] <ismail> online resources are very scattered
[11:56] <elw0od> where i can find about updating to feisty? apt-get distupgrade isn't enough?
[11:56] <UbuntuGaming183> is there a sudo.conf file where i can change the timeliimit of the sudo comment ?
[11:56] <neo_> elw0od : i want to paste index.hmtl to my apache-www folder but Acces denied
[11:57] <elw0od> neo_,  check permission of the files
[11:57] <neo_> root
[11:57] <neo_> is it
[11:57] <UbuntuGaming183> elwood you must change the sources.list to feisty sources
[11:57] <elw0od> neo_, so no one can read escept root
[11:57] <neo_> but
[11:57] <haboy_> !frostwire
[11:57] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:57] <neo_> how can i change my website
[11:57] <neo_> ?
[11:58] <neo_> mom
[11:58] <neo_> moment
[11:58] <elw0od> neo_, go to the  dir where your index.html is and change permission with chmod
[11:58] <neo_> so
[11:58] <neo_> my webspace is online now
[11:58] <neo_> only the stuff
[11:58] <neo_> i cant edit it
[11:59] <yomm> !enter !neo
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter !neo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <yomm> !return !neo
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about return !neo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <neo_> oki
[11:59] <ismail> any aswer to that?
[12:00] <cavallo_> hi
[12:00] <yharrow> chello my feeelow russians
[12:01] <yharrow> vere is can I find a way too keel ze vista beast?
[12:01] <yharrow> remember.. veesta iz spyware
[12:01] <yharrow> oh wth.
[12:01] <renaud_> just dont install it ?
[12:01] <yharrow> where is everyone?
[12:02] <elw0od> neo_, you can :)
[12:02] <neo_> how?
[12:02] <elw0od> ok go in a terminal
[12:02] <neo_> i searched the web
[12:02] <neo_> oki
[12:02] <neo_> moment
[12:02] <neo_> yes
[12:02] <yharrow> yay, ppl. (is not a hermit)
[12:02] <yomm> yharrow : everyone is busy ignoring nonsense ...
[12:02] <darkstar> ikonia_, I've created and formatted /dev/sdb2 with ext3. should I now copy all my /home content there (without creating a home folder?
[12:03] <yharrow> ok yomm.
[12:03] <yharrow> Im done
[12:03] <neo_> elw0od:  oki
[12:03] <neo_> terminal is open
[12:03] <dave84> anyone help with a wireless card problem?
[12:03] <elw0od> neo_, are u using kubuntu o ubuntu?
[12:03] <yharrow> dave, what kind of card?
[12:03] <neo_> ubunutu
[12:03] <darkstar> dave84, which card
[12:03] <dave84> NetcommNP542
[12:04] <kenthomson> HELP; Am i infringing any patents or doing anything illegal when i use a open-source application to view proprietary formats like .doc (word), .fla (flash source), .3ds (3DS MAX), .psd (photoshop), .cdr (coreldraw). As these programs are needed by me, i need to know whether it is illegal to open such files using OS apps and also please suggest me a app to open each of the file i mentioned here. Thank you
[12:04] <yharrow> dave. when you go into network manager does your card show up?
[12:04] <elw0od> neo_,  sudo nautilus --no-desktop
[12:04] <neo_> elw0od:
[12:04] <neo_> that command compleet?
[12:04] <dave84> Yes and iwconfig has it talking but i get a  Access Point: Not-Associated  message
[12:04] <elw0od> neo_,  yes
[12:05] <neo_> oki
[12:05] <neo_> he opening root
[12:05] <neo_> yes
[12:05] <neo_> what now?
[12:05] <kenthomson> Does someone care to enlighten me?
[12:05] <yharrow> dave, are you using 32 or 64 bit?
[12:05] <dave84> 32
[12:05] <elw0od> go to your website directory
[12:06] <darkstar> ikonia, sorry for bogging you. can you just tell me wether or not i must creat a home folder on newly formatted partition?
[12:06] <neo_> elw0od: thats not there
[12:06] <neo_> /var/www
[12:06] <neo_> i dont know where it is
[12:06] <elw0od> so go to var/www
[12:06] <neo_> oki
[12:06] <neo_> oki
[12:06] <neo_> what now?
[12:07] <yharrow> dave, one second
[12:07] <yharrow> brb
[12:08] <yharrow> dave, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:08] <dave84> kenthomson, most of these are usable from Linux but you have to use a few different programs. I'm not sure about Corel
[12:08] <neo_> yes
[12:08] <elw0od> neo_, open property by right cliccking and set permission
[12:08] <neo_> elw0od: thanks!!
[12:08] <dave84> 6.10 edgy
[12:08] <elw0od> neo_, there is another way with chmod...try reading man
[12:09] <neo_> thanks!!
[12:09] <elw0od> neo_, this is the simplest
[12:09] <elw0od> neo_,  it works?
[12:09] <neo_> yes
[12:09] <neo_> thanks!!
[12:09] <Landon> Does anyone know how to install nautilus?
[12:09] <Landon> I've come to a road block because it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:09] <Landon>   libeel2-2: Depends: libeel2-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:10] <monzie> Landon: just give sudo apt-get install
[12:10] <Landon> I dont' know how to get 2.14.3-0ubuntu1
[12:10] <monzie> it should correct dependency problems, if any
[12:10] <neo_> elw0od:  http://chatpalace.ath.cx its not yet finished and its dutch language :)
[12:10] <yharrow> dave you might be able to connect using network manager
[12:10] <Landon> I need that specific version though
[12:10] <kenthomson> I helped to get some more help, anyways...its hopeless
[12:10] <yharrow> dave,  try.  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[12:11] <dave84> Will try
[12:11] <Landon> monzie: If I sudo-apt get install libeel2-data, it says it's at it's newest version
[12:11] <darkstar> Hi I have decided to move /home to a different partition, so I freated a 50g partition on /dev/sdbx and formatted as ext 3 I am copying my three useres home directories there. Then ?
[12:11] <darkstar> poor spelling, ain't it?
[12:12] <Landon> but it says it's 2.14.1-0ubuntu2, and I need 2.14.3-ubuntu1
[12:12] <dave84> kenthomson, dont give up this is worth the effort
[12:12] <yharrow> dave, you need to have universe repositories enabled in order to install network-manager
[12:12] <monzie> Landon: have you fiddled with your sources.list?
[12:12] <dave84> Already newest version
[12:12] <kenthomson> dave84, I meant to say asking for help on the IRC here, is hopeless NOT linux. Dont worry i have been infected by the linux parasite deep enough that i am only going back to Redmond after i have a complete replacement of my Brain. ;)
[12:12] <monzie> why dont you paste a log of what you're doing to some paste bin
[12:13] <Landon> monzie: No, what would that do?
[12:14] <yharrow> dave: also try apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:14] <dave84> kenthomson, The forum here is sometimes a bit slow but there is a lot of very helpful people who can take a while to respond
[12:14] <yharrow> meant sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:15] <dave84> Already newest version
[12:16] <neo_> elw0od ?
[12:16] <elw0od> neo_,  yes
[12:16] <neo_> is there a way to install mysql without donwloading it?
[12:16] <neo_> yes shell command
[12:16] <neo_> just *
[12:16] <elw0od> apt-get install mysql
[12:16] <neo_> ty
[12:16] <neo_> sudo apt-get install mysql ?
[12:17] <Orfeous> i cant change volume for my soundcard on any installed mixer... what can be wrong?
[12:17] <neo_> ty
[12:17] <dave84> I then installed wifi radar, then WPA
[12:17] <Orfeous> i can change volume with xmms but no mixer
[12:17] <Landon> Guys, I really need help installing nautilus, it's the last thing I need to do to correct my GIGANTIC mistake
[12:17] <nanothief> Landon: why isn't nautilus installed?
[12:17] <Landon> It was an accident, and it was removed, a long with about 50 other things
[12:18] <yharrow> dave, have you actually tried connecting with both wifi-radar and NetworkManager?
[12:18] <Landon> I just finished installing EVERYTHING else by hand, just need nautilus now
[12:18] <nanothief> Landon: it might have been quicker just to re-install ubuntu
[12:18] <neo_> thanks elw0od i am donwloading it right now :) ty
[12:19] <Landon> nanothief: I have too much stuff on here, and I have everything pretty much the way I want. It wasn't that bad since I had a list of everything that was gone
[12:19] <Landon> But now I just need Nautilus and I'm done
[12:19] <nanothief> Landon: i'm guessing sudo apt-get install nautilus doesn't work?
[12:20] <Landon> nanothief: No, There's a dependency problem
[12:20] <neo_> synaptic ? maybe
[12:20] <Landon> libeel2-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:20] <Landon> Haven't tried synaptic yet, I'll try that right now
[12:20] <dave84> yharrow, yes the card is found but the Access Point: Not-Associated part has got me baffled. It says Link Quality:60/100  Signal level:44/100  Noise level:0/100 with iwconfig. must just be a setting but DHCP is on and it should be automatic?
[12:20] <nanothief> landon: out of curiosity, what was the gigantic mistake?
[12:21] <gavintu> Hello. I've been looking for information on the forums but I can't find anything specific. How might I install qt so that I can run a program that requires it? All the information I can find on google is for developers using qt :  /.
[12:21] <Landon> Heh, it was retarded. sudo apt-get install python- statgrab instead of sudo apt-get install python-statgrab
[12:21] <yharrow> dave, does your connection use wep or wpa?
[12:21] <Landon> And without thinking I hit yes
[12:22] <dave84> I have both switched off at this stage
[12:22] <Landon> Synaptic doesn't work, same problem
[12:22] <Landon> That ONE file
[12:22] <neo_> which file?
[12:22] <neo_> lol
[12:22] <Landon> libeel2-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:23] <neo_> that file :D
[12:23] <neo_> you cannot donwload it from internet??
[12:23] <Landon> I need the ubuntu1 but if I sudo apt-get libeel2-data, it says it's there
[12:23] <Landon> neo_: Where would I put it?
[12:23] <neo_> i dont know
[12:23] <neo_> else reinstall ubuntu?
[12:23] <nanothief> gavintu: try installing libqt4-core and libqt4-gui
[12:23] <Landon> I'm not going to reinstall just for 1 file
[12:24] <Landon> Someone's got to know
[12:24] <yharrow> dave, according to hardware support in ubuntu wiki it should work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetcomm
[12:24] <nanothief> Landon: but a lot more could be broken that you haven't discovered yet
[12:24] <Landon> nanothief: I reinstalled everything that was taken off, everything went really well...everything except for nautilus
[12:24] <yharrow> dave, I think it might have to do with your particular setup
[12:25] <Landon> Luckily I stopped it before it did any big damage
[12:25] <yharrow> dave, can you post the output of ifconfig
[12:25] <MrPrimate> Does nayone know how I can burn a CD on the same drive that I'm running a LiveCD on ?
[12:25] <yharrow> dave, also are you using a router?
[12:25] <ikonia_> Landon nautalus is part of gnone-desktop
[12:25] <dave84> can I just paste it here?
[12:25] <yharrow> yeah
[12:25] <neo_> is there not an way to install nautalus with the cd?
[12:25] <nanothief> MrPrimate: probably impossible
[12:26] <neo_> how to start mysql?
[12:26] <ikonia_> neo_ use the init script
[12:26] <neo_> which?
[12:26] <ikonia_> neo_ it also starts by default after install
[12:26] <neo_> :D
[12:26] <jussi01> dave84: if its large use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:26] <neo_> lol
[12:26] <nanothief> MrPrimate: why do you need to?
[12:26] <ikonia_> neo_ the one called "mysql"
[12:26] <Landon> ikonia_: You're right, and I can't re-install gnome-desktop until I re-install nautilus :P
[12:26] <ikonia_> neo_ which do you think
[12:26] <yharrow> thanks jussi
[12:26] <neo_> but dont  want to restart
[12:26] <ikonia_> ikonia_ is that the error message
[12:26] <neo_> ikonia: where /path?
[12:26] <EyeCue> Hmm, how does ubuntu set its hostname? is it via /etc/hostname, or purely the binary hostname ?
[12:27] <ikonia_> neo_ where the init scripts are kept
[12:27] <ikonia_> neo_ read the wiki
[12:27] <neo_> oki
[12:27] <ikonia_> EyeCue the binary only changes it at that moment in time
[12:27] <neo_> wiki.ubuntu.*
[12:27] <ikonia_> the hostname file is read at boot
[12:27] <EyeCue> roger that.
[12:27] <dave84> Pasted it there havent used thatbefore!
[12:28] <yharrow> jussi, how do i read it?
[12:28] <Landon> What's funny is that I can open folders in something that LOOKS like nautilus
[12:28] <EyeCue> ikonia_, is the syntax the same as other os's, ie; hostname hostname.domain, or are switches required to set it
[12:28] <neo_> restart
[12:28] <gavintu> nanothief: Very odd. It seems that aptitude downloads those files when you select the qt4-designer module (as I did before), but doesn't actually install them, so they were just sitting there doing nothing. That might explain my problem.
[12:28] <neo_> it must be done
[12:28] <jussi01> yharrow: he should post the address fore you here
[12:28] <yharrow> jussi, figured
[12:28] <ikonia_> neo_ I've told you how to do it
[12:29] <ikonia_> EyeCue I assume so
[12:29] <yharrow> dave, did you see whta the address is?
[12:29] <ikonia_> EyeCue but just man it to make sure
[12:29] <dave84> Yes it is a iConnect 624W router but not connected to the outside world. I am currently running of my home router.
[12:29] <EyeCue> I'm supporting a client ive just started working with
[12:29] <jussi01> dave84: make sure you pust the paste button on that address
[12:29] <EyeCue> and i dont have access to the box, i just needed a confir,
[12:29] <EyeCue> confirm
[12:29] <ikonia_> EyeCue I believe its the same
[12:29] <EyeCue> ta
[12:30] <EyeCue> i dont think its the drama, but it doesnt hurt to kill fqdn errors.
[12:30] <ikonia_> EyeCue agreed
[12:30] <yharrow> dave84, do you have a wired card as well that you can test the connection on?
[12:30] <nanothief> gavintu: what happens when you run sudo apt-get install libqt4-gui
[12:31] <gavintu> nanothief: I just finished that now, but it didn't fix my problem. It still says QTDIR is null.
[12:31] <gavintu> nanothief: I'm trying to compile a program from source that requires QT because it was crashing on startup, probably because QT isn't set up properly.
[12:31] <dave84> Cant use the link it think s I am spamming it
[12:32] <yharrow> dave84 just email the output to me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:32] <dave84> yes the connection with a cable works fine and dhcps
[12:33] <Landon> Figured it out! Just had to remove the dependency completely then re-install it, works fine now. Thanks to those that helped ;)
[12:33] <slippyr4> hello, how can i change a users primary group? ie, when i create a file, it's owned and grouped as jon/jon . i want it to be jon/users
[12:33] <ricardo_> hi can anyone help me to install firefox 2.0?
[12:34] <gavintu> nanothief: I guess a better question now would be: Do you have to do a full manual configuration if you just want to use the libraries?
[12:34] <ikonia_> ricardo_ get apt-get it from the repo
[12:34] <nanothief> gavintu: If you are trying to compile it you need a few more packages. Try searching for Qt (name only) from synaptic package manager, and checking all the relevant packages that start with lib (it can't hurt to download ones not needed)
[12:34] <yharrow> dave, also send me the output of  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:35] <gavintu> nanothief: Well yeah I don't really want to compile, I was only going to do that because the binaries weren't working in the first place and I figured I could find out the problem if I tried to compile.
[12:35] <xenoborg> gavintu: what program are you trying to compile?
[12:35] <nanothief> gavintu: what program is it?
[12:35] <gavintu> mixxx
[12:35] <yharrow> www.sample.com
[12:35] <yharrow> http://www.sample.com
[12:36] <gavintu> I mentioned on their boards that it was crashing, and they think it might be my QT that's flubbed up.
[12:36] <xenoborg> sudo apt-get build-dep mixxx
[12:36] <Orfeous> i give up.. i cant change volume with any mixer in ubnuntu!! just in software mode in xmms
[12:36] <ricardo_> ikonia_ i never really understood the apt... how do i seek the package?
[12:36] <gavintu> I already have the mixxx dev viles
[12:37] <nanothief> gavintu: have you got any other programs that need Qt?
[12:37] <ikonia_> ricardo_ if you don't understand apt - use the synaptic gui manager
[12:37] <gavintu> no, never needed it
[12:37] <ikonia_> or read the docs
[12:37] <xenoborg> then apt-get source mixxx; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
[12:37] <ricardo_> ikonia_ i tried, but i cant find the firefox 2 there, only the 1.5...
[12:38] <daveyates> apt-cache search ricardo_ will find all pakages installed or not that cotain ricardo_ as part of the name or discription
[12:38] <gavintu> xenoborg: I'm trying to compile it in debug mode so I can send them diagnostics. It's giving errors because of QT, but other than that there's no problem with the compile.
[12:38] <ikonia_> ricardo_ what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:38] <ricardo_> the drapper...
[12:38] <ikonia_> ricardo_ 1.5 is all thats available.
[12:39] <IdleOne> !ff2
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <nanothief> gavintu: for something different, try sudo apt-get install nethack-qt. This will install a small game that relies on Qt. if it doesn't work you know Qt is the problem
[12:39] <yomm> !ppc
[12:39] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[12:39] <slippyr4> !umask
[12:39] <Dustyhawk> hello people again. i have a problem with synaptics ..again
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <yomm> is there a "ubuntu-ppc" irc channel ?
[12:40] <ricardo_> ikonia_ should i get a newer version of ubuntu, then?
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> in which this is what i got after clicking the Reload button
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> E: Malformed line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> Go to the repository dialogue to correct the problem.
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> E: Malformed line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> though i have not touch any of the repository
[12:40] <dave84> yharrow, did the arrive OK
[12:40] <ricardo_> ikonia_ considering there is a newer version, of course...
[12:40] <IdleOne> !firefox | ricardo_
[12:40] <ubotu> ricardo_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:40] <slippyr4> I am confused by umasks. what umask do i need to create files with rwxrwxr_x ?
[12:40] <nanothief> !pastebin | Dustyhawk
[12:40] <ubotu> Dustyhawk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:41] <reysan> Hello
[12:41] <Quilby> im having problems with the freenx server
[12:41] <Quilby> where should i go?
[12:41] <reysan> Any one use Xubuntu  ?
[12:41] <Quilby> wtf is going on?
[12:42] <gavintu> reysan: Sometimes, why?
[12:42] <deroby> Hi all
[12:42] <Dustyhawk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7023/   <-- happens when i reload synaptics
[12:42] <johnnybuoy> hi
[12:42] <johnnybuoy> hi all!
[12:42] <Dustyhawk> any idea
[12:42] <xenoborg> gavintu: edit line 27 of debian/rules in your source dir and insert --enable-debug, then you should be fine
[12:42] <Tmob> MrPrim8, the src i'm compiling isn't ubuntu
[12:42] <yomm> is it correct that xorg has no build-in window manager ?
[12:42] <MrPrim8> hey a friend of mine is working on recompiling his kernel -- can he get the configuration for the kernel that is distrbuted ? ?
[12:42] <deroby> I was wondering : is there an edonkey2K server for linux (ubuntu ?) I searched synaptics, but didn't find one
[12:42] <MrPrim8> Tmob, what's your ultimate goal or purpoase of all this ?
[12:42] <Quilby> yes
[12:43] <Quilby> amule
[12:43] <Quilby> !amule
[12:43] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[12:43] <yharrow> dave, yeah just got mail. reading now
[12:43] <deroby> ah, so amule is Client AND server then ?
[12:43] <Tmob> MrPrim8, i dont want initrd..
[12:43] <Quilby> yes just like emule
[12:43] <IdleOne> !ops we have a small onjoin/part botnet in here joining and parting
[12:43] <johnnybuoy> can anyone tell me how I get to the page that shows hardware configuration and what works/doesn't work on the ubuntu webpage? I know there should be something like this, as last time I installed it, I did a survey for hardware support
[12:43] <Tmob> but its just personal choice.. not really useful for anything..
[12:43] <MrPrim8> Tmob, why don't you take the kernel source that Ubuntu distributes and modify it to your needs, this way you know what's going on,
[12:43] <reysan> I'm newbeee.. i don't show the image, when i open a .png or .jpg ..start Gimp..
[12:43] <marcellus> I am looking for an mp3 player that has a scrobbler plugin. xmms (which I have been using up til now) crashes on some files, amarok refuse to start, muine|rhythmbox|quodlibet don't work. So I tried listen which requires gstreamer >= 0.10.1  and now audacious scrobbler plugin causes a conflict between libwavpack and gstreamer0.8-misc. Any recommendations on a player that just works (like is in edgy)?
[12:44] <MrPrim8> Tmob, I may be wrong, but can't you just skip initrd without even recompiling the kernel ?
[12:44] <Quilby> wtf is going on
[12:44] <Quilby> band that ip
[12:44] <Quilby> ban
[12:44] <gavintu> nanothief: Thanks, OK I installed it, and it gave me almost exactly the same error that mixxx did when I tried to run it, so it appears they have the same problem. The game actually ran, but it was all messed up so I guess mixxx just relies more on qt than the game does.
[12:44] <IdleOne> Quilby, no need for the wtf! it's a flood botnet
[12:45] <Quilby> so what is it?
[12:45] <johnnybuoy> no OPs?
[12:45] <Dustyhawk> ok screw that error which i got
[12:45] <slippyr4> I am confused by umasks. what umask do i need to create files with rwxrwxr_x ?
[12:45] <IdleOne> !ops
[12:45] <ubotu> Help!  I'm on dapper ubuntu core btw.
[12:45] <deroby> errr, IMHO eMule (the windows client I use) only has client capability, we need to run dserver.exe on our lan (not connected to the internet) to have a central "index-locatio", but anyway, I'll give aMule a look, thanks
[12:45] <apokryphos> IdleOne: hi
[12:45] <Dustyhawk> now with add/remove
[12:45] <Dustyhawk> im getting this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7024/
[12:45] <nanothief> gavintu: ok have you tried removing all qt libs from your computer?
[12:45] <IdleOne> apokryphos, join/ part botnet
[12:45] <MrPrim8> maybe if you hvae a tiny penis it helps you feel better if you flood chnanels
[12:45] <johnnybuoy> can anyone point me to the supported hardware page?
[12:45] <IdleOne> apokryphos, been going on for about 5 minutes
[12:46] <Quilby> where are the ops?
[12:46] <MrPrim8> Tmob, good luck, I have to reboot to linux and get to work, cya
[12:46] <Quilby> all of them are sleeping
[12:46] <gavintu> nanothief: Hmmm, no. I guess I'll try that now.
[12:46] <apokryphos> Quilby: no, I'm here.
[12:46] <reysan> to open the image in Xfce4 what Sw I can to use ?
[12:46] <Quilby> oh
[12:46] <IdleOne> ty apokryphos
[12:46] <Dustyhawk> hello people. ~_~ need some help
[12:46] <gavintu> nanothief: Should I just get rid of everything and then reinstall the core file?
[12:47] <Quilby> !lts
[12:47] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:47] <nanothief> nanothief: firstly uninstall nethack-qt, then get rid of all qt stuff, then re-install nethack-qt. That might work
[12:47] <johnnybuoy> can anyone tell me how I get to the page that shows hardware configuration and what works/doesn't work on the ubuntu webpage? I know there should be something like this, as last time I installed it, I did a survey for hardware support
[12:47] <johnnybuoy> it asked me questions like does sound work, video, etc...
[12:48] <mattl> jono: how do you feel about having ESR join your community? given that he has explicitly stated that he is against the free software community and believes we all need non-free software.
[12:48] <johnnybuoy> who is ESR?
[12:49] <mattl> Eric S Raymond.
[12:49] <Quilby> !esr
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <jono> mattl: I couldnt care less, he is one user
[12:49] <dave84> johnnybouy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[12:49] <jono> mattl: I don;t see him as any different to any other user
[12:49] <johnnybuoy> thx
[12:49] <jono> mattl: and we have lots of people who believe Ubuntu should support non-free software
[12:49] <sskroeder> Hi all ... I'm using Gaim for my IM'ing needs -- but earlier today one of my friends (who still use windows) wanted to let me see via his webcam - though MSN Messenger  --- Is there a way to accomplish that ? - to see the webcam stream from a Messenger chat ?
[12:49] <Crescendo> We do need non-free software.
[12:49] <johnnybuoy> isn't esr one of the oss and foss spokespeople?
[12:49] <mattl> Crescendo: we don't.
[12:49] <mattl> johnnybuoy: open source, but not free software
[12:49] <johnnybuoy> ah
[12:50] <marcellus> johnnybuoy: self-proclaimed
[12:50] <johnnybuoy> :D
[12:50] <johnnybuoy> yeah, I know
[12:50] <mattl> marcellus: well, he was on the OSI board for sometime.
[12:50] <yharrow> dave what is your access point name?
[12:50] <johnnybuoy> he does have some pretty interesting papers on his site, though...
[12:50] <Enselic``> Is there a way to pipe stdinput to a gedit buffer?
[12:50] <yharrow> network name?
[12:50] <Crescendo> mattl, it's too early to argue why we do, so <insert well-defended argument for non-free software, with all the necessities being free anyways>
[12:51] <dave84> WLAN-AP-625W
[12:51] <mattl> jono: anyway, that was all i wanted to know. cheers.
[12:51] <jono> :)
[12:51] <Crescendo> Don't hate!
[12:51] <Crescendo> :x
[12:51] <mattl> Crescendo: i have no intention to argue with you.
[12:52] <gavintu> Or so he says.
[12:52] <yharrow> ok, send me the output of   cat /etc/network/interfaces
[12:52] <yharrow> <<dave84
[12:52] <Crescendo> Lol, actually, I was the one who was intending on arguing with him.
[12:52] <Crescendo> Purists and elitists are not what the community needs, though.
[12:52] <Crescendo> That's what it boils down to.
[12:52] <dave84> Wifi radar sees the router and also my netgear home router
[12:52] <Enselic``> who was that mattl guy?
[12:52] <Crescendo> Eric will be a welcome addition to the community, as will any other user.
[12:53] <johnnybuoy> yeah, but we do need some people who have a voice in THE media
[12:53] <yharrow> dave, did you try connecting using wifi-radar?
[12:53] <nanothief> gavintu: how is it going?
[12:53] <johnnybuoy> ppl tend to think free software is bad, just because it's free
[12:53] <yharrow> dave:  sudo /etc/init.d/wifi-radar restart; sudo wifi-radar
[12:53] <dave84> Yes but it tries to assign an IP but after 15 seconds cant do it
[12:54] <johnnybuoy> how dumb, seeing it's better than an proprietary software
[12:54] <gavintu> nanothief: Looking for stray qts in the nooks and crannies.
[12:54] <johnnybuoy> s/an/any
[12:54] <yharrow> dave84  did you send the output yet?
[12:55] <darkstar> Guys can you help me moving my system's /home to a newly created partition somewhere else into the filesystem? Just need a quick way to do it.
[12:55] <rogiertje> i installed kubuntu (from ubuntu) i also installed the kubuntu usplash, how do i change it back to the ubuntu splash?
[12:56] <yharrow> dave, it seems as if the only problem were having is getting the wireless card to obtain an ip address from the router.
[12:56] <johnnybuoy> darkstar, well, just copy/move it there recursively and set the fstab file accordingly
[12:56] <darek> cze
[12:57] <darkstar> johnnybuoy, what sould the /etc/fstab lool like after? I mean which flags are *mandatory* for /home, in fstab?
[12:58] <johnnybuoy> dell is giving me sh*t for an order. anyone had problems with dell online orders?
[12:58] <johnnybuoy> hmm
[12:58] <johnnybuoy> darkstar, if your permissions are right, I would guess defaults should be ok
[12:58] <dave84> I cant understand it the router is brand new and was configured by the internet provider with dhcp configured and wireless configured
[12:59] <johnnybuoy> except if this is a prduction/high securith host, where I would do some fine-tuning..
[12:59] <sladen> rogiertje: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[12:59] <darkstar> johhnybouy, alright, let's say I am done and I am unable to boot into my system........ how would I recover?
[12:59] <johnnybuoy> darkmatter, well, pop in a live-cd of course.
[01:00] <DaHood> hi all. I was trying out ubuntu-server. I cannot explain why it insists on installing the apache2-mpm-prefork package instead of the apache2-mpm-worker. for example, if i try to install php5 then it requires the "prefork" version of apache
[01:00] <johnnybuoy> anyhow, you'll still be able to log in as root, as root's home is on /root, so unmodified
[01:00] <dave84> emailed the last one
[01:00] <johnnybuoy> darkstar, ^^
[01:01] <darkstar> johnnybuoy, right... Ok. brb
[01:01] <yharrow> ok
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> darkmatter, you have a root password?
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> darkstar,
[01:01] <asti> darkstar, take a look at this guide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> by default ubuntu doesn't have a root password, only sudo is allowed
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> iirc
[01:01] <nadii> Ello
[01:01] <darkstar> asti, thanks I am going right there.
[01:02] <johnnybuoy> kewl
[01:02] <johnnybuoy> see y'all when I get my freeking dell inspiron.
[01:02] <johnnybuoy> ciao
[01:03] <dave84> sudo wifi radar says wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:04] <yharrow> dave84, :) there is a typo in your interfaces file
[01:04] <yharrow> do sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:05] <yharrow> change the last line to #wireless-keys:
[01:05] <yharrow> instead of wireless-key s:
[01:06] <dave84> How would that happen?
[01:06] <yharrow> then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:06] <yharrow> dave84, no idea man haha
[01:06] <yharrow> dave84, just glad we spotted it
[01:07] <dave84> Thanks for your help  let you know how it goes
[01:08] <masato> siema
[01:08] <yharrow> dave, take a look at this error. Failed to bring up ath0. Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :    invalid argument "s:".
[01:08] <yharrow> dave, the invalid argument is your extra s at the end of wireless-keys
[01:09] <smo> hi all
[01:09] <yharrow> I mean hanging s
[01:09] <smo> what up with ubuntu on usb key is it possible now??
[01:09] <smo> i have a 2 go usb key can i install ubuntu on it to run it as live -cd...
[01:09] <smo> ?
[01:10] <dave84> Yeah not quite there got this /etc/network/interfaces:19: option with empty value
[01:11] <dave84> ill remove the "s"
[01:11] <valehru> Hey guys, i have ssh access to a machine.  How can I open up port 6600 to all traffic?
[01:13] <gavintu> nanothief: Still there, kashira? Sorry my laptop is really slow. I just put nethack back on after uninstalling everything I could, and it gives me the same error basically.
[01:14] <gavintu> nanothief: I guess I'll reinstall qt4 core.
[01:14] <valehru> well?  Does anyone here know how I could open a port on 6600 using only the console...
[01:14] <nanothief> gavintu: what was the error again?
[01:14] <gavintu> nanothief: Can I PM it to you? About 15 lines.
[01:14] <nanothief> just put it on pastebox
[01:15] <gavintu> Pastebox? Is that a website?
[01:15] <nanothief> gavintu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:15] <selinuxium> valehru: there is a package called fwbuilder. you can run it locally and upload the file to your server...
[01:15] <nanothief> its one of the links in the topic
[01:15] <valehru> selinuxium, thx
[01:16] <yharrow> dave, dont remove the s,  the s should be there just part of wireless-keys
[01:16] <yharrow> dave just remove the space
[01:17] <yharrow> dave, and you can comment out the whole line by placing a # sign before the line,
[01:17] <dave84> yharrow, Should I remove the line altogether? i am getting option with an empty value without the : or Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[01:17] <dave84>     invalid argument ":".
[01:17] <gavintu> nanothief: OK, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7027/ . It's basically the same as the error I got for mixxx, except for the last line.
[01:18] <valehru> selinuxium, do you know of one that I could install remotely and simply administer it over ssh on the console?
[01:18] <dave84> Your too quick
[01:18] <dave84> read my mind
[01:18] <yharrow> dave, you can use dave84 and put the s back the line should look like this   #wireless-keys:
[01:18] <yharrow> dave thanks man :)
[01:19] <nanothief> gavintu: are you using beryl by any chance?
[01:19] <gavintu> nanothief: It's possible that it's a scim error, and the mixxx developers tell me that all their scim code is part of qt (or rather they just leave all the scim stuff to qt)
[01:19] <gavintu> No, bare bones ThinkPad here so nothing fancy.
[01:20] <yharrow> how do I use a bluetooth modem in ubuntu?
[01:20] <nanothief> gavintu: can you put on pastebox the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:20] <yharrow> dial up modem
[01:21] <yharrow> seveas are you the guy who made the seveaz packages?
[01:21] <Seveas> nolo, that's me
[01:21] <Seveas> argh
[01:21] <yharrow> hehe
[01:21] <gavintu> nanothief: OK, but I don't think it's an X problem, everything else works fine after all.
[01:21] <Seveas> actually
[01:21] <wilsontux> helpme espaol spanish
[01:21] <Seveas> !es | wilsontux
[01:21] <ubotu> wilsontux: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:21] <selinuxium> hi Seveas :)
[01:21] <Seveas> hi selinuxium
[01:21] <wilsontux> ok thanks
[01:22] <yharrow> goes to play tecnoballz
[01:22] <valehru> does anyone know the command to open a port using iptables?
[01:22] <dave84> Thanks again
[01:22] <yharrow> dave, did it work?
[01:24] <gavintu> nanothief: Here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7028/
[01:24] <asti> valehru, you can use firestarter to open a port
[01:25] <valehru> asti, I don't have access to the firestarter gui.
[01:25] <valehru> asti, im not on x.  Im using ssh
[01:27] <nanothief> gavintu: is your graphics card an ATI model?
[01:27] <yettenet> Is there any other method to schedule tasks other than Cron?
[01:27] <Frogzoo> valehru: iptables -A INPUT -d hostname -j ACCEPT
[01:27] <yharrow> yay, I just provided technical support over IRC for the first time ever, I am now officially and ubuntu-geek
[01:27] <yharrow> an*
[01:27] <yettenet> gz yharrow
[01:28] <yettenet> :P
[01:28] <gavintu> nanothief: Hmmm, I was just looking at that too. I _believe_ it's an onboard ATI model, but I'm not so sure anymore (it's not actually my computer). Let me see if I can check somehow.
[01:28] <yharrow> yettenet, can you beleive it I managed to fix his wireless connection without actually having him blow his computer
[01:29] <yharrow> up
[01:29] <yettenet> Amazing
[01:29] <yharrow> yeah I know
[01:29] <yharrow> wow
[01:29] <yharrow> :P
[01:29] <yharrow> haha
[01:29] <cafuego_> yettenet: there is 'at'
[01:29] <yettenet> 'at'?
[01:29] <yettenet> I'll give it a look
[01:29] <valehru> Frogzoo, thx
[01:29] <Frogzoo> valehru: np
[01:29] <yharrow> stupid one click default in kde
[01:30] <Frogzoo> valehru: oops - that opens all ports...
[01:30] <talis> Anyone have an answer to this one --> dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file
[01:30] <talis> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:30] <cafuego_> what's with the join spam
[01:30] <valehru> ya....was thinking
[01:30] <sijmen> Is there a gtk or gnome frontend to fstab in Ubuntu?
[01:30] <yettenet> Hm
[01:30] <valehru> Frogzoo, was thinking that..
[01:30] <Frogzoo> valehru: iptables -A INPUT -d hostname --dport service -j ACCEPT
[01:30] <yettenet> ubotu: at
[01:30] <ubotu> at: Delayed job execution and batch processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.1.10ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 41 kB, installed size 208 kB
[01:31] <yettenet> Doesn't give a link to the documentation S
[01:31] <yettenet> :s
[01:31] <cafuego_> Time to ban 85.* I think
[01:31] <valehru> Frogzoo, was thinking that.....how can i make it accept connections on port 6600?  iptables -A INPUT -d hostname --dport 6600 -j ACCEPT
[01:31] <yettenet> Yup, it seems like...
[01:31] <cafuego_> !ops
[01:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:31] <valehru> Frogzoo, where host=localhost
[01:31] <gnomefreak> cafuego_: i see it
[01:33] <Seveas> denny, yeah
[01:33] <gavintu> nanothief: OK yeah I have a source that confirms the standard onboard vid card is "ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (Mach64)".
[01:33] <denny> cool
[01:33] <sijmen> Isn't there a standalone version of the mountpoint config tool used in the installer?
[01:33] <Frogzoo> valehru: iptables -A INPUT -d localhost -p tcp --dport service -j ACCEPT
[01:33] <wolfeySI> please:)
[01:33] <talis> Anyone have an answer to this one --> dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file
[01:33] <Seveas> sijmen, unfortunately not
[01:34] <sijmen> okay.. back to console then :)
[01:34] <nanothief> gavintu: type the command blackjack in a terminal. Is there any output?
[01:34] <Seveas> talis, adduser --system postfix
[01:35] <talis> Seveas: oh okay thank you
[01:35] <yettenet> cafuego_: Could you provide me some information on this 'at' thingy? :P
[01:35] <gavintu> nanothief: Yeah, the game.
[01:36] <cafuego_> yettenet: 'man at' should see you sorted
[01:37] <yettenet> Thanks
[01:37] <yettenet> :)
[01:37] <gavintu> nanothief: Appears to look fine. Doesn't look like qt though O  o;;.
[01:37] <gavintu> *work fine
[01:37] <yettenet> man is the short for manual, right?
[01:37] <mackinac> yettenet:  yes
[01:37] <sijmen> How can I have mount re-read fstab so the new partitions get mounted and stuff?
[01:37] <yettenet> Thanks, another useful command:D
[01:38] <Seveas> sijmen, mount -a
[01:39] <nanothief> gavintu: well i'm stuck then. Usually, the reason that you get X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device (anumber) errors  is a piece of hardware is incorrectly specified in the xorg.conf file. eg i had an X Error once as a stylus was defined in my xorg.conf file (and i don't have a stylus). So I think the problem isn't Qt, but something else. Or i could be completely wrong :-P
[01:40] <gavintu> nanothief: OK, thanks. Ummm... I'll see if these mixxx guys have any other ideas, they're probably getting pretty fed up with me by now. And I'm just reading about a big with scim + qt that could be related, but we'll see. Thanks again.
[01:40] <nanothief> gavintu: it might be better to ask in the qt forums, as it is a problem with qt, not mixxx
[01:41] <wolfeySI> so there's no netboot for kubuntu?
[01:41] <wolfeySI> only for ubuntu?
[01:41] <sijmen> Yay my new partition layout mounted
[01:41] <sijmen> but doesn't appear on the desktop.
[01:41] <wolfeySI> cmon say yes no?
[01:42] <gavintu> nanothief: OK, good idea.
[01:42] <sijmen> How to refresh the mounted filesystems on the desktkop?
[01:42] <litage_> which app tells you which key you're currently pressing?
[01:43] <jrib> litage_: xev
[01:44] <Riddell> wolfeySI: there is only 1 netboot CD, it asks which variant you want during install
[01:44] <Frogzoo> sijmen: logout/login should work
[01:44] <sijmen> hmm :/
[01:44] <sijmen> that seems kind of akward
[01:44] <sijmen> but it'll do
[01:44] <wolfeySI> Riddell: it didnt ask last time
[01:44] <flamesrock>  hey, why is it that dos takes ages to format, but linux takes like two seconds?
[01:45] <wolfeySI> flamesrock: probably linux format doesnt physically erase every sector by default?
[01:45] <wolfeySI> :)
[01:45] <bauer77> one is microsoft one is god...hehe
[01:45] <sijmen> DOS appearently clears the entire disk, whereas with mkfs only a new filesystem index is generated
[01:45] <flamesrock> thanks wolfey
[01:45] <flamesrock> ahhh I see
[01:46] <loiic> Hi there
[01:46] <sijmen> logging in/out, brb
[01:48] <sijmen> I logged in and out, but while the filesystems are mounted they still do not appear on the desktop
[01:48] <sijmen> Do I need to have them by UUID in my fstab? or is /dev/hdaX fine?
[01:48] <loiic> i am new to ubuntu, coming with a debian background, i got a brand new ubuntu-server with 6.10 installed, and i heard that the init mechanism in this version has been replaced by upstart, i guess it does make a lot of change underneath, but i still can see scripts in /etc/init.d and the rc.d folders, do have i to do thing any differently than what i am used to?
[01:49] <Zaggynl> !update
[01:49] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:50] <mackinac> sijmen:  try to disable then re-enable the icons at "gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop" .. see if that updates it
[01:51] <bimberi> loiic: no, upstart supports those scripts.  Things may change down the track though - in future Ubuntu releases
[01:52] <loiic> bimberi: but at the moment using those scripts is still the only solution, or there is a proper way to get things done the ubuntu way
[01:53] <Mena> Is there a nice program to enable me edit video files and cutt it and this stuff
[01:53] <bimberi> loiic: they're still the ubuntu way :)
[01:53] <loiic> bimberi: eheh ok, which is?
[01:54] <yettenet> Ah... Cron works... again
[01:54] <yettenet> Finally :D
[01:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! I think Ive screwed up my system when trying to install according to the unofficial ATI-driver-wiki....
[01:54] <sijmen> mackinac: did that. Now I also know how to enable the trash icon, but my two volumes are still not mounted
[01:54] <sijmen> *visible
[01:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> theres a problem with the linux-restricted-modules and now I cant even apt-get remove it!
[01:55] <NoEvidenZ> UbuntuN00B_HBG: What seems to be the problem?
[01:55] <NoEvidenZ> Ah.
[01:55] <sijmen> it's about these two partitions: /dev/hda7 on /media/data type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[01:55] <sijmen> /dev/hda6 on /media/rsync type ext3 (rw)
[01:55] <bimberi> loiic: update-rc.d, invoke-rc.d, basing new scripts on /etc/init.d/skeleton (if I've understood your question)
[01:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> I like the "Ah" statement... sound reassuring! ;)
[01:55] <techie1> good morning all
[01:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> 'morning!
[01:55] <litage_> thanks jrib
[01:55] <NoEvidenZ> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I know about as much on the topic as you do. I'm actually here for help myself.
[01:56] <loiic> ah ok bimberi, but that's still the same as things are done in debian, i thought upstart might have introduced some new commands etc
[01:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> NoEvidenZ: too bad! ;)
[01:56] <NoEvidenZ> UbuntuN00B_HBG: Sorry. :P
[01:56] <idefix_> if you have a CDrom and a DVDrom and the DVDrom seems dead but the CDrom works the controller on your motherboard can't be broken right? especially since the working rom is the slave and the other master?
[01:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> techie1: can you rupposrt me with my problematic linux-restricted-modules?
[01:57] <vignesh> hey...
[01:57] <NoEvidenZ> !chat > NoEvidenZ
[01:57] <techie1> Can anybody comment. I am recently very "extremely happy" to have discovered Ubuntu and all the other related linux programs available. Having been a windows user for a few years, I have arrived to the conclusion, or maybe is a matter of principle, that I totally want to switch gears and get my next machine already installed with linux rather than windows. Any suggestions as to the type of "best" computer out there for
[01:57] <vignesh> Do i need a graphics card to use XGL ?
[01:58] <techie1> Also which is prefer by you all in here: Ubuntu, Slax, DSL, Suse, etc... and why?
[01:58] <vignesh> I just got an Intel 945 motherboard.. so is this onboard intel graphics enough to use XGL ?
[01:58] <IdleOne> techie1, get a computer you can afford with no OS ( check hardware compatibility ) and then install ubuntu on it yourself
[01:58] <Frogzoo> !hardware | techie1 make sure all your hardware has linux drivers
[01:58] <ubotu> techie1 make sure all your hardware has linux drivers: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:59] <IdleOne> techie1, being this is #ubuntu I would say Ubuntu is the preffered OS
good avice, thanks.
[01:59] <bright_fame> techie1: if you don't want to figure out all the compatibility issues yourself take a look at system76.com
how do I check that?
[01:59] <bright_fame> (they preinstall ubuntu)
[01:59] <NoEvidenZ> techie1: Build one and install Ubuntu on it. I'd advise against getting any preloaded OS.  Im wrestling with my ati-drivers as we speak...
[02:00] <vignesh> janga: so I can`t use XGL without  a graphics card ?
[02:00] <bauer77> as I have been UbuntuN00B_HBG
[02:00] <bright_fame> vignesh: i have beryl running on intel graphics :\ not sure if same as yours though
[02:00] <wolfeySI> bauer77: i have good experience with recent ati drivers, thank you
[02:00] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Frogzoo: worked fine until I started fiddling with it... :P
it all makes sense
[02:01] <vignesh> bright_fame: Mine is an Intel 945
[02:01] <janga> vignesh, intel IS an onboard graphics card
[02:01] <bauer77> what are you running for a card wolfey?
[02:01] <wolfeySI> 9600xt
[02:01] <Phocean_> why don't you use beryl ?
[02:01] <no_gatez_fan> ati x800 here no problems
[02:01] <bauer77> everytime I come in here someone is having problems with their ATI, rarelly see nvidia issues
[02:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> no_gatez_fan: did you install the drivers from ati.amd.com?
[02:01] <vignesh> janga: sorry mine is a 946GZ
[02:01] <Frogzoo> no_gatez_fan: frame rates under ati+wine are the suxors
[02:01] <no_gatez_fan> yes
[02:01] <bright_fame> vignesh: will look mine up for you...
[02:01] <Phocean_> beryl rox with my i915gm graphics
[02:01] <bauer77> I am using a Radeon Mobility 9700 and have been struggling with it from the get go
[02:01] <techie1> I have also seen ubuntu program (downloable and around 600 mb or so) and other places I see a disk for 3.5 G (probably with lots of crap). Basically the main disk which I am using now (a live CD) is about 698 MG. Is that the normal one?
[02:01] <wolfeySI> bauer77: trick is to set xorg.conf right
[02:02] <techie1> or is that all I need
[02:02] <vignesh> bright_fame: mine is a Intel 946GZ
[02:02] <bauer77> well if your offering to help..lol
[02:02] <wolfeySI> for example UseFastTLS works best with 1 .. 0 and 2 aint good
[02:02] <bauer77> unfortunately I am still a noob to the linux world
[02:02] <no_gatez_fan> i did a text install then loaded it from there
[02:02] <wolfeySI> and 'export pseudocolor visuals' must be off, or no xv for you
[02:02] <no_gatez_fan> i dont know if i had to but that is the way i been doing it
[02:03] <bauer77> I installed the ATI drivers from the ati website but it keeps showing up with the mesa drivers
[02:03] <bauer77> in xorg.conf
[02:03] <NoEvidenZ> Can anyone tell me about the Integrated VIA DeltaChrome GPU? Is it like.. Decent, or is it just a fancy name?
[02:03] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> anyone here who can help me with my linux-restricted-modules package? I cant remove it... apt-get just stops...
[02:03] <bright_fame> vignesh: 82865G using i916 driver
[02:03] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: what is the message
[02:03] <bright_fame> runs beryl fine
[02:04] <bright_fame> (using AIGLX)
[02:04] <vignesh> bright_fame: u don`t have an extra graphics card ?
[02:04] <bright_fame> nope
[02:04] <techie1> Is the ubuntu disk (downloadble from ubuntu.com) all I need? Or are there any commercial ubuntu CD's that I could buy with more programs?
[02:04] <bright_fame> dell 1100 dimension
[02:04] <bright_fame> intel integrated
[02:04] <vignesh> cool.. then it should work on mine too.. Thanks
[02:04] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well... apt-get starts removing it... no error-messages... but it just hangs, CPU-load 0%
[02:04] <ikonia_> bauer77 why are you not using the drivers from the ubuntu repo
[02:05] <bright_fame> techie1: install from the disk, download anything else
[02:05] <bright_fame> using synaptic
[02:05] <techie1> thanks bright
[02:05] <no_gatez_fan> 26801 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5360.021 FPS is what i get
[02:06] <kenthomson> HELP; how do i make all the icons in my desktop disappear, i want to hide them. PLease help
[02:06] <ikonia_> delete them
is there a way to use synaptic while still using the liveCD and downloding programs? I tried it but apparently since I have not partitioned and still using livecd it does not download additional programs.
[02:06] <ikonia_> or disable them in gconf
[02:06] <kenthomson> ikonia_, is there a difference between delete and hide?
[02:06] <NoEvidenZ> Can anyone tell me about the Integrated VIA DeltaChrome GPU? Is it like.. Decent, or is it just a fancy name?
[02:06] <kenthomson> ikonia_, the key in gconf is what i am searching for, i can't find it
[02:06] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: weired... it does that only with this package right ? have you tried to remove another one ?
[02:07] <ikonia_> kenthomson just delete them
[02:07] <bright_fame> techie1: never tried - but sounds like it wouldn't work very well to me
[02:07] <mackinac> kenthomson:  gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop"
[02:07] <kenthomson> ikonia_, but i want to HIDE them, not delete :(
[02:07] <kenthomson> mackinac, let me see that!
[02:07] <ikonia_> whats the point - if you hide them you can't use them, so delete them
[02:07] <dmb062082> now that i have everything set up the way i want.... how do i go about remastering into a dvd/live dvd?
[02:07] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: nope... I could try though... the problems startes when I tried INSTALLING it... same thing there, just froze... so I tried removing it... no luck...
[02:07] <Mena> what is the diffrence between ubuntu amd64  and just ubuntu
 thanks again. One final questions I am using mirc to get here (a windows program) which is the counterpart for Ubuntu.... xchat?
[02:07] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: should I try to remove another package?
[02:08] <ikonia_> Mena one is 64bit
[02:08] <dmb062082> mena: the 64 bit version is for amd64 bit processors
[02:08] <bright_fame> i'm use GAIM
[02:08] <techie1> or are there others
[02:08] <Sakunix> hi anyone with experience getting Ubuntu 6.06.1 onto a Mac PowerBook G3?
[02:08] <Bogaurd> techie1: yeah, xhcat is pretty good
[02:08] <bright_fame> works great
[02:08] <kenthomson> mackinac, there is no option in there to HIDE all of them (not "draw" them)
[02:08] <Bogaurd> techie1: you'll feel comfortable in xchat most likely if you've used MiRC
[02:08] <kenthomson> ikonia_, hiding allows one to restore them
[02:08] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I think it is an apt issue
[02:08] <Mena> ikonia, dmb062082, ohh ok
[02:08] <Bogaurd> techie1: there are dozens :)
[02:08] <Mena> thanks
[02:08] <Mena> :)
[02:08] <kenthomson> ikonia_, though one can always move them to other folder from desktop and copy them back, but i am looking for a official way
[02:09] <ikonia_> kenthomson gconf editor is the way
[02:09] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: ok, any ideas how to troubleshoot or resolve?
[02:09] <mackinac> ohh, hide all ....
[02:09] <kenthomson> ikonia_, i can't find the key to edit to make all the icons
[02:09] <kenthomson> mackinac, yes not just the trash or home, but all of them
[02:09] <kenthomson> ikonia_, * to hide all icons
[02:09] <ikonia_> gconf editor
[02:10] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: maybe something wrong with your source.list... how is apt-update now ?
[02:10] <kenthomson> ikonia_, what is the name of the key in there that i should edit?????
[02:10] <bright_fame> isn't there some why to tell nautilus to stop managing the desktop background?
[02:10] <ikonia_> I don't know of the top of my head - each application thats not part of gnome will have its own
[02:10] <sipher> How do I get bunzip2 to output to a different directory? Just do bunzip2 <file> <outpath>?
[02:10] <ikonia_> so home and trashcan are part of gnome
[02:10] <ikonia_> firefox for example is not
[02:10] <bright_fame> dave yates (lottalinuxlinks) mentioned this once on his podcast i think
[02:10] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_:  ill just kill the synaptic, its frozen on the restricted-modules... you want me to sudo apt-get update?
[02:11] <kenthomson> ikonia_, so you mean to say there is no official way to hide all the icons with just editing a single key eg.setting some key called "icons_visible" to "false". or are you not aware?
[02:11] <mackinac> kenthomson:  gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences > show desktop
[02:11] <ikonia_> kenthomson don't know, probably not as gnome can only control gnome configuration data
[02:11] <Sakunix> How do I get a mac to boot from cdrom? Want to get Ubuntu onto it but can't get it to boot ubuntu
[02:11] <Phocean_>  UbuntuN00B_HBG: yeah, kill synaptic, open a terminal and type : # apt-get clean and then # apt-get update
[02:11] <soundray> Sakunix: hold the 'C' key down during boot
[02:12] <Sakunix> k soundray will try that
[02:12] <dmb062082> can someone type out my nick im testing something
[02:12] <kenthomson> mackinac, got it thanks! :)
[02:12] <Sakunix> dmb062082 ?
[02:12] <kenthomson> mackinac, and people told me searching the forum is faster than loitering in the IRC
[02:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well... it wants me to do a dpkg --configure -a, i think it might be that restricted-module thats haunting again...
[02:12] <dmb062082> thanks
[02:13] <kenthomson> ikonia_, i appreciate your efforts
[02:13] <kenthomson> bye!
[02:14] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well, the dpkg --configure -a didnt return any errors, rerunning apt-get update
[02:14] <Sakunix> booted into Mac OS... again
[02:14] <Sakunix> any other ideas?
[02:14] <soundray> Sakunix: maybe your CD isn't bootable. What's in the CD root folder when you look at it in Mac OS?
[02:14] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: it is because it hadn't finished installing it, I think it should be alright now... (I hope)
[02:14] <Sakunix> Its got folders in it
[02:14] <Sakunix> :)
[02:15] <Sakunix> I'll look again
[02:15] <soundray> Sakunix: files as well?
[02:15] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: apt-get update went OK... but ive tried that just prior to apt-get remove the restricted-module.. and it still hanged... I think it will hang again if I try to apt-get remove it!
[02:15] <bauer77> anyone have issues with azureus just closing after it opens?
[02:15] <Sakunix> soundray: One file from memory
[02:15] <soundray> Sakunix: can you look at it now and tell me the filename pls
[02:16] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: by the way, why do you want to remove it ?
[02:16] <soundray> bauer77: I've seen other people complain about it. Have you got Sun Java installed?
[02:16] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: because apt-get hanged when trying to install it... :P
[02:16] <Sakunix> soundray: md5sum.txt README.diskdefines
[02:16] <Sakunix> those are the only two
[02:17] <soundray> Sakunix: what version of Ubuntu is this?
[02:17] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: killing the installation and then running dpkg --configure -a just hanged too...
[02:17] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I see
[02:17] <Orfeous> got problems connecting to my Digital Camera with Digikam in KDE
[02:17] <Orfeous> i have a Casio QV-5700
[02:18] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: so im swimming on circles here... dont now how to find the error...
[02:18] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> *know
[02:18] <joerack> guys, I'm really going bonkers here: is there a decent autoscript for beryl? please
[02:18] <joerack> every time I install beryl X is corruptede
[02:18] <Sakunix> soundray: 6.06 LTS for Mac
[02:18] <dmb062082> how do you print screen?
[02:18] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: what release of ubuntu are you on ?
[02:18] <dmb062082> ha sorry
[02:18] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: edgy
[02:18] <dmb062082> lame question
[02:18] <bright_fame> joerack: beryl wiki didn't help you?
[02:18] <soundray> Sakunix: okay, what kind of Mac have you got?
[02:19] <boubbin> how to see my ip in shell.
[02:19] <dmb062082> jperack did you edit your xorg.conf
[02:19] <Sakunix> I have one of the paperweight variety
[02:19] <soundray> boubbin: ifconfig
[02:19] <Pici> boubbin: ifconfig
[02:19] <Sakunix>  :)
[02:19] <dmb062082> what kind of graphics card do you have?
[02:19] <soundray> Sakunix: G3? G4? G5?
[02:19] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I don't have any idea anymore... I thought the package you downloaded was corrupted and apt-get clean should have corrected it
[02:19] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: I could let ju VNC my computer... give you my IP pver a private chat... if youd like to help me
[02:19] <Sakunix> Its a Mac PowerBook G3 soundray :)
[02:19] <foRza> Is is possible to make a user-group become member of another group?
[02:20] <joerack> bright_fame: I followed the instructions where you create a auto script yourself, installing beta nvidia drv, but x corrupted
[02:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well... didnt try the apt-get clean until you told me! ill test synaptics again to see if the rtestricted module still is there and marked for removal!
[02:20] <Sakunix> foRza: new "feature" that would be :)
[02:20] <dmb062082> how the heck do i take a desktop screen shot?
[02:20] <dmb062082> =0
[02:20] <soundray> Sakunix: do you have a Mac system CD for testing if you can boot from that?
[02:20] <Pici> dmb062082: press your print-screen key
[02:20] <soundray> Sakunix: s/if/whether/
[02:21] <Sakunix> I in fact don't soundray
[02:21] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: we can try VNC if you wish (not sure the bandwith will be good where I am)
[02:21] <Sakunix> on that note you know whether Mac OS is free?
[02:21] <IdleOne> dmb062082, Applications>Accesories>Screenshot
[02:21] <soundray> Sakunix: no!
[02:21] <Sakunix> soundray : Don'y want to format this then :)
[02:21] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: sure! Ill just give synaptics another spin and see if theres any improvement!
[02:21] <Sakunix> soundray : mgiht ghost it first :D
[02:21] <chiefbearclaw> use envy to install ati / nvidia drivers
[02:21] <soundray> Sakunix: have you got OS 9 or X?
[02:22] <Sakunix> uname -a work under mac?
[02:22] <IdleOne> Sakunix, it should
[02:22] <Pici> dmb062082: If that doesnt work, theres a gnome panel applet called gnome-screenshot that will take a screenshot after you press the button
[02:22] <Sakunix> never used a mac before
[02:22] <soundray> Sakunix: not in Mac OS. Click on the Apple icon and select About this Mac
[02:22] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: hmm... the linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic is still there, and marked for removal...
[02:22] <Sakunix> soundray its Mac OS X!
[02:22] <fishy_penguin> where should I go to try to get an app added to repository?
[02:23] <Sakunix> woohoo
[02:23] <Sakunix> Does this mean I am cool?
[02:23] <soundray> Sakunix: did you burn the CD under Mac OS?
[02:23] <dmb062082> thanks
[02:23] <soundray> Sakunix: I'm sure you're cool, whatever OS you run.
[02:23] <Sakunix> I did not no.. Its from a box of about a million ubuntu disks
[02:23] <chiefbearclaw> http://albertomilone.com/index.html < for installing the latest ati drivers under ubuntu edgy this worked great.
[02:23] <IdleOne> Sakunix, you trying to boot ubuntu CD? if so put the cd in reboot the machine and hold down the letter C while booting
[02:24] <soundray> IdleOne: tried that
[02:24] <Sakunix> IdleOne tryed that
[02:24] <Sakunix> IdleOne tried opt+cmd+sht+del, opt+cmd+o+f
[02:24] <soundray> Sakunix: make sure you press the C key during the chime and hold it for about 20 seconds
[02:24] <Sakunix> I've tryed alot
[02:24] <Sakunix> kk won't hurt to try again soundray
[02:24] <soundray> Sakunix: did you manage to get into Open Firmware?
[02:25] <Sakunix> soundray : I did once
[02:25] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well... didnt remove it from synaptics... just unmarked it for removal instead... perhaps that solves my problem...
[02:25] <Sakunix> soundray: But can't do it again for some readson
[02:25] <soundray> Sakunix: it isn't the keyboard's fault then
[02:25] <soundray> Sakunix: or maybe it is
[02:25] <soundray> Sakunix: is it plugged in?
[02:25] <soundray> Sakunix: (scnr)
[02:26] <foRza> Is it possible to add a wildcard or something to a group, so that everyone becomes members?
[02:26] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: did you see my private message ?
[02:26] <IdleOne> Sakunix, you got that Mac for free didnt you?
[02:26] <fishy_penguin> anyone know who I gotta bug to get an app considered to be added?
[02:26] <Sakunix> soundray: its powerbook I am using the keyboard thats embeded inthe machine
[02:26] <Sakunix> IdleOne: How did you guess! :)
[02:26] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: nope... perhaps im not registered at the msgserver?
[02:27] <IdleOne> Sakunix,
[02:27] <shaw1> does anyone know why the add/remove program keeps closing randomly on me
[02:27] <Sakunix> IdleOne: 10 year old powerbook that has a screen you can only see by looking at it at a 10 degree angle :)
[02:27] <soundray> Sakunix: if it was a horse, I'd take it to the abattoir
[02:27] <Sakunix> once ubuntu is on it will make a tops something..
[02:27] <Pici> Sakunix: 10 years old running OSX?
[02:27] <fishy_penguin> i wouldn't by that horse if i was short of glue
[02:28] <soundray> Pici: X years old!
[02:28] <Sakunix> Pici: yes 266mhz and 256mb of pure lean mean mac os x fighting machine this thing is
[02:28] <IdleOne> Sakunix, it might just be to old but try googling that model and see if you can find anything. 10 yrs? didnt think OSX could run on machines that old
[02:28] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: did you read my private message just now?
[02:28] <Phocean_> no
[02:28] <Phocean_> well
[02:28] <Phocean_>  I honestly don't see well what is going on
[02:28] <Phocean_>  and :
[02:28] <Phocean_>  apt-get remove -f <restricted modules>
[02:29] <soundray> IdleOne: it may be old, but it shouldn't be too old to boot off a bootable CD.
[02:29] <IdleOne> soundray, true
[02:29] <Sakunix> soundray: Thats all I want to see
[02:29] <Igor_V2> how can i get the java plugins to my firefox??
[02:29] <IdleOne> soundray, iso burned properly?
[02:29] <tfh> Hello anyone here using exfalso on edgy ?
[02:29] <Tmob> anyone here setup apache here?
[02:29] <Sakunix> IdleOne: If I could get the ubuntu menu id check for defaults
[02:29] <soundray> IdleOne: I wanted to check that... Sakunix?
[02:29] <Sakunix> but I cant
[02:29] <IdleOne> igor47, sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugins
[02:30] <Sakunix> couldnt md5 it
[02:30] <Sakunix> Could I
[02:30] <Sakunix> dunno enough mac yet only used it for all of 15 minutes
[02:30] <soundray> Sakunix: if you had a running ubuntu machine of any variety, you could md5 the CD there.
[02:30] <Pici> Sakunix: Try getting an md5sum off the computer you're on now
[02:30] <MrPrimate> anyone have a tip on how to recursively delete hidden dirs?  (without wiping the entire drive)
[02:30] <Sakunix> ideas man you are
[02:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: Ill try the apt-get remove -f
[02:31] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: apt-get remove -f <restricted modules> ?
[02:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: ok!
[02:32] <soundray> MrPrimate: find . -name \.\* | xargs rm -rf
[02:32] <soundray> MrPrimate: dangerous!
[02:32] <Sakunix> IdleOne, Pici, soundray: Are the discs in the Offical sleeves flakey at all?
[02:32] <IdleOne> Sakunix, I havent had any problems with the Shipit cd's nope
[02:32] <Sakunix> super cheap 2c coffee costers?
[02:32] <soundray> Sakunix: no, they are well made
[02:32] <PORDO> how do i find a file that contains a certain phrase, within a directory?
[02:32] <fishy_penguin> ahhh.. i need to be in ubuntu-motu
[02:32] <Sakunix> Thats what I ma using
[02:32] <MrPrimate> soundray: ouch,.. that's the easiest way that you know of ?
[02:32] <soundray> PORDO: grep
[02:33] <soundray> !cli | PORDO
[02:33] <ubotu> PORDO: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:33] <MrPrimate> I would hope that there is some easier way to delete all of the hidden sub-dirs, like to clean out a home direcroryt
[02:33] <MrPrimate> I suppose I could move everything that is not hidden somewhere else, and then delete it all
[02:33] <Sakunix> doing md5sum /dev/cdrom? That going to give me the right number?
[02:34] <soundray> MrPrimate: what's difficult about the command I suggested?
[02:34] <MrPrimate> soundray: it's not actually difficult, it just seems a bit tedious for a simple operation,
[02:34] <PORDO> is it grep - r ./ "phrase" ?
[02:34] <IdleOne> soundray, remembering it lol
[02:34] <knoppix_derbinat> I'm new to the unix console, I'm trying to open an x-window type connection. Does anyone know if there is a knoppix 5.0 application that could do this?
[02:34] <MrPrimate> soundray: let me poke at it for a moment and see if there's anything questionable
[02:35] <bcox> Anybody able to advise on making power management (suspend/hibernate) work on Dell Inspiron 8600?
[02:35] <soundray> PORDO: no, it's "grep Phrase *"
[02:35] <Sakunix> soundray: You a Mac user at all?
[02:35] <soundray> MrPrimate: try 'find . -name \.\* | xargs ls' for playing
[02:35] <MrPrimate> soundray: is this going to run   rm -rf     on every file in every subdirectory, or just the dirs ?
[02:35] <foRza> PORDO: grep "your phrase" *
[02:35] <soundray> Sakunix: yes, light user
[02:35] <PORDO> thank you!
[02:35] <PORDO> found it.
[02:35] <Sakunix> soundray: Worth spending some time with?
[02:36] <soundray> Sakunix: can you rephrase that question?
[02:36] <mwe> How do you prevent network-manager from loading each time you log in to gnome?
[02:36] <MrPrimate> soundray: it's not really so bad, it just looked a bit long for something simple
[02:36] <mwe> I don't use it
[02:36] <IdleOne> Sakunix, OSX is a nice OS
[02:36] <Sakunix> soundray: Did you find it useful to spend some time learning about
[02:36] <MrPrimate> personally, I think maybe they should re-think the idea of having    .  ..   and .hidden dirs sharing the same convention, it's a problem
[02:37] <Sakunix> IdleOne: I am looking at it. It does look very impressive
[02:37] <MrPrimate> i bet 9 out of 10 people would agree that it's a problem
[02:37] <ALL4N> any good suggestions for how to set up vpn connection in ubuntu?
[02:37] <soundray> Sakunix: I have a Mac because I need just one particular application. I dual-boot Ubuntu on it and use that most of the time.
[02:37] <MrPrimate> ALL4N: to connect to an existing windows-based VPN or to create one ?
[02:37] <Sakunix> I've used ibm pc all my life. First mac I ever touched now
[02:37] <ALL4N> MrPrimate: connect to an existing one
[02:37] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: ok... well... 'apt-get remove -f' checked dependencies, removed a few packages and now its stuck on "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..."
[02:38] <foRza> Is it possible to add a wildcard or something to a group, so that everyone becomes members of that group?
[02:38] <ALL4N> MrPrimate: not sure whether it is windows-based or not
[02:38] <MrPrimate> ALL4N: there are a number of tools, depending on what type of vpn, like whether it's a windows one or cisco, etc
[02:38] <bcox> *Anybody able to advise on making power management (suspend/hibernate) work on Dell Inspiron 8600?
[02:38] <soundray> MrPrimate: 'find . -type d -name \.\*' will find only directories beginning with a dot
[02:38] <ALL4N> MrPrimate: I know it is IPSec/Managed/Dualaccess
[02:39] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I don't have any further idea... :(
[02:39] <sipher> Still can't get bunzip2 to let me output to a different directory. Thought I had it but.. nope. :\ Anyone know?
[02:39] <MrPrimate> soundray: wait isn't that going to match .. too, leaving me in the same position as if i just rm -rf .* (!!!!!)
[02:39] <crazney_> heya, i'm having a problem with my ubuntu installed.. i recently took out one of my ide hdds and put in a new sata one.. neither of them is used / mounted / anything in ubuntu.. but now i don't seem to be able to access my cd drive in ubuntu - i get this in the dmesg:
[02:40] <crazney_> [   26.971531]  ide1: I/O resource 0x376-0x376 not free.
[02:40] <crazney_> [   26.971533]  hdc: ERROR, PORTS ALREADY IN USE
[02:40] <crazney_> anyone have any idea what could be going on?
[02:40] <Sakunix> bbs, getting a pc out of the car
[02:40] <ALL4N> MrPrimate: Currently I am using windows AT&T client to connect to the vpn
[02:40] <soundray> MrPrimate: strange -- it seems to match . but not ..
[02:40] <bcox> I've used the system/settings/power mgt menu to select hibernate on lid closed. But opening the lid comes up to a boot prompt (select windoze or ubuntu).
[02:40] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: a delicate problem indeed... me thinks UbuntuN00B_HBG need a UbuntuWizard... :P well... you gave it a shot and im very grateful!
[02:40] <soundray> MrPrimate: still, that is a problem!
[02:41] <benjie> This may not be distribution specific question, but is there anwyay to for the use of a certain domain controller or even exclude a domain controller for authentication with kerberos5?
[02:41] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: you are welcome ! please let me know if someone here find a workaround...
[02:42] <MrPrimate> hehe, that's kind of odd , i can't really think of any explanation for that to include . without ..
[02:42] <soundray> MrPrimate: can you reproduce that behaviour, though?
[02:43] <MrPrimate> soundray: what are you referring to?  it seems to match . but not .. , every single time
[02:43] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: Okey! Im in the swedish channel now... crossing my fingers
[02:43] <soundray> MrPrimate: thanks, that's what I wanted to hear
[02:44] <kenthomson> HELP; how can i have different backgrounds (desktop wallpapers) on different sides of the beryl cude (or workspaces)?
[02:44] <MrPrimate> soundray: I suppose it's intentional, to prevent find from crawling endlessly,
[02:45] <soulfreshner> how do I show a list of 'updateble' files using apt-get?
[02:45] <dmb062082> what are the best options for remastering... to keep beryl and such intact?
[02:45] <soulfreshner> ie. all files that need to be updated
[02:45] <MrPrimate> soundray: but it really does expose a filesystem flaw with the . and .. shared with the hidden directory bit,.. personally, i think there should be a sort of hidden flag that is not a part of the filename, which could be referenced by a character or some new key, right ?
[02:45] <MrPrimate> maybe that's just me :)
[02:46] <andyjeffries> Can anyone help me figure out why my CD-ROM drive isn't appearing under Ubuntu (it works fine if I boot off the Live CD or reboot into Vista)?
[02:46] <soundray> soulfreshner: use the -s option (simulate)
[02:46] <Nalleman> how to add link from a fat disk on the desktop?
[02:46] <kenthomson> Anyone cares to enlighten me on different wallpapers on different workspaces?
[02:46] <Nalleman> how to add link from a fat32 disk on the desktop?
[02:46] <soulfreshner> tat, soundray
[02:46] <soulfreshner> tat=ta
[02:47] <errante> hollo
[02:47] <soundray> MrPrimate: I think your argument is valid. The thing about conventions, though, is that once they are 20 or 30 years old, it'll need more than a convincing argument to change them...
[02:48] <andyjeffries> I'm using 6.10, fully updated if that helps....
[02:48] <soundray> Nalleman: fat doesn't know links
[02:48] <benjie> This may not be distribution specific question, but is there anwyay to for the use of a certain domain controller or even exclude a domain controller for authentication with kerberos5?
[02:48] <Pici> benjie: It sounds like you probably want to ask that in ##windows
[02:48] <Nalleman> soundray, ... ok... is it possible to have a similar funktion then? l
[02:49] <benjie> Pici, will do...thanks
[02:49] <MrPrimate> soundray: right,... but whoever is writing the next great operating system , will make sure to change this we hope :)
[02:49] <brian_> hi
[02:50] <MrPrimate> I really am curious whether we will all be switching to some really different new operating system, or if we'll continue down the endlessly modified unix path of enlightenment
[02:50] <soundray> Nalleman: I think I got you the wrong way round. Maybe what you want is 'ln -sf /fat/mountpoint $HOME/Desktop/fatlink'?
[02:50] <brian_> how do i tell a pcmcia network card to use the hostap driver?..
[02:50] <MrPrimate> what do you guys think, in 10 years will we be using another evolution of unixy-like OS, or something completely different ?
[02:51] <kaushal> Hi
[02:51] <kaushal> I cant see any of the users who are in the same channel as myself.
[02:51] <elkbuntu> !offtopic | MrPrimate
[02:51] <ubotu> MrPrimate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:51] <zsh> hi.how can i find out the service or app accessing a given port on my pc?
[02:52] <soundray> MrPrimate: I'm pretty certain that I will stick with unix. Although I am sometimes attracted by interface concepts like Aqua or Symphony OS, there is rarely a reason to change the underlying system. I'll stop offtopic now, sorry
[02:52] <zsh> and kill it
[02:52] <zsh> something is eating up my bandwidth and i cant figure out what
[02:53] <zsh> i'm using ubuntu edgy btw
[02:53] <ALL4N> zsh: netstat might help
[02:53] <soundray> zsh: access netstat through System-Administration-Network Tools
[02:53] <MrPrimate> ubotu: sorry, i thought it was a bit ubuntu related, i kind of think ubuntu will live beyond kernels and operating systems in a way :)  but i'm done off-topisizing
[02:54] <zsh> ALL4N, soundray, ok
[02:55] <IdleOne> Fnux, dont abuse fish please
[02:55] <elkbuntu> !bot | MrPrimate
[02:55] <ubotu> MrPrimate: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:55] <basil> zsh :  just use  the command    netstat -lnp
[02:55] <twisties> !lamp
[02:55] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:56] <brian_> !hostap
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <brian_> :-(
[02:56] <soundray> !msgthebot
[02:56] <twisties> lol
[02:56] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:56] <brian_> !hostapd
[02:56] <ubotu> hostapd: user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 169 kB, installed size 508 kB
[02:56] <elkbuntu> MrPrimate, basically, we use this channel for support questions. philosophical questions like you asked are better served in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:56] <rogue-> Hello everyone.  What are the general thoughts/feelings about this?
[02:57] <IdleOne> !offtopic | rogue-
[02:57] <ubotu> rogue-: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:57] <stouset> Anyone else experiencing an extremely slow gnome-terminal?
[02:57] <phazeman> hi people. do i have to do anything special while installing ubuntu on dual core macine with sata HD ?
[02:57] <brian_> anybody her who can help me with hostapd?
[02:57] <zsh> the offening app is using 1073, i can tell that from tcpdump but 1073 doesnt  show in netstat, basil, ALL4N, soundray
[02:57] <stouset> It starts up fine, but slows to a crawl after a few minutes of use. reset brings it back to normal speed.
[02:57] <stouset> phazeman: no.
[02:58] <phazeman> stouset: it will be detected automaticaly and install the right kernel ?
[02:58] <soundray> phazeman: make an educated decision about whether to use i386 or amd64. From then on, it's pretty smooth.
[02:58] <elkbuntu> rogue-, #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for that question as it is the 'random chatter' channel. This is the support channel.
[02:58] <stouset> phazeman: That would be pretty much what's implied by my 'no'.
[02:58] <phazeman> soundray: i'm not on AMD. it;'s intel
[02:58] <rogue-> elkbuntu: yes, thank you, got it already.
[02:58] <michal_> lol
[02:58] <stouset> phazeman: You shouldn't have any problems.
[02:58] <phazeman> soundray: thanks
[02:58] <soundray> phazeman: I thought so. amd64 runs on Core 2 Duo processors, too.
[02:59] <phazeman> soundray: i'm not on core duo.. the regular duo
[02:59] <phazeman> the older one
[02:59] <phazeman> but thanks anyway, i will try it tonight or tomorrow morning
[02:59] <soundray> phazeman: Pentium D?
[02:59] <xtknight> core duo is 32bit only, does not support amd64
[02:59] <xtknight> core 2 duo supports amd64
[02:59] <phazeman> soundray: it's Intel Core Duo 2.8
[03:00] <phazeman> 2.8 GHz i mean oof course
[03:00] <phazeman> s/oof/off
[03:00] <IdleOne> s/off/of
[03:00] <IdleOne>
[03:00] <phazeman> :)
[03:00] <xtknight> phazeman: i386 only for your cpu
[03:00] <phazeman> xtknight: thanks...
[03:01] <zyth> xtknight, no, amd64 will work for him, core duo supports EMT64
[03:01] <zyth> :P
[03:01] <soundray> phazeman: okay. i386 then. Make sure you get edgy
[03:01] <phazeman> soundray: 6.10 you mean ?
[03:01] <IdleOne> phazeman, yes
[03:01] <xtknight> zyth: only core 2 duo
[03:01] <zyth> oh
[03:01] <soundray> phazeman: yes
[03:01] <zyth> hes core 1?
[03:01] <zyth> n/m then
[03:01] <xtknight> yea
[03:01] <phazeman> cool, just finihed burning the alternate cd...
[03:02] <phazeman> it's been a while since i've installed linux desktop... hope i will not break anything :)
[03:02] <soundray> phazeman: remember, data you haven't backed up is data you don't want.
[03:02] <mwe> Can you remove xchat from the notification area? It annoys me ;)
[03:03] <joerack> anybody can help me out with beryl? I've reinstalled 5 times
[03:03] <joerack> just a tip
[03:03] <phazeman> soundray: i'm a very old linux user... was a #mandrake chanop once... but moved back to w$ because of photoshop and wify needs
[03:03] <soundray> joerack: tip #1: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[03:03] <joerack> thank you
[03:04] <repp> Hi, is it possible to install a kernel suitable for audio production in ubuntu? With the current edgy kernel, jack gives a lot of xruns
[03:04] <soundray> phazeman: hope you manage to stick around this time.
[03:05] <finalbeta> mwe: yeah you can, I just found where to disable it. But since I can assume you can read. I'll assume you can find it your self.
[03:05] <phazeman> soundray: i hope the portable version of PS CS2 will work for me this time... otherwise - i will have to stick with the laptop
[03:05] <seshomaru> hi, can anyone tell me how do i find out which version of gaim i'm running? and which version of OO?
[03:05] <phazeman> seshomaru: dpkg -l | grep gaim
[03:05] <roovis> seshomaru: Help -> About
[03:05] <mwe> finalbeta: buthead
[03:05] <phazeman> seshomaru: dpkg -l | grep openoffice
[03:05] <zyth> seshomaru, look in help | about?
[03:06] <finalbeta> mwe: it's in the options o^O Chat - alerts
[03:07] <mwe> finalbeta: logical

[03:08] <seshomaru> phazeman, zyth THANKS
[03:08] <_Luks> hey ppl
[03:08] <_Luks> how do i get a column ID from this gtk function: http://pastebin.ca/367635   ?
[03:10] <cmh0101> hey guys just want to know what Torrent Client you are running in linux? I recently switched from Windows.
[03:10] <soundray> !torrent
[03:10] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[03:10] <cmh0101> thank you
[03:10] <goban> is there a project to reverse engineer cocoa?
[03:10] <soundray> !seen gnomefreak
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen gnomefreak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <gnomefreak> huh?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> btw !seen is down i think
[03:11] <gnomefreak> use seenserv :)
[03:11] <soundray> Hi gnomefreak! Can you sort this guy out: Texa<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(offensive leaving message)
[03:11] <soundray> please
[03:14] <IdleOne> I remember back in the day when I was op ( not in here ) most of my kick/ban reason were pretty much what texa quit msg is :/
[03:14] <oritemis> guys. to setup a domestic nat, should I use iptables?
[03:14] <soundray> oritemis: yes, definitely. Use something like firestarter to configure.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[03:15] <drag0n_> Hey, I'm trying to use inotify in a program here, but I'm using edgy and can't figure it out. There should be a /dev/inotify but it's not there? Do I need to patch the kernel?
[03:15] <oritemis> soundray, And to firewall?
[03:15] <soundray> !firestarter | oritemis
[03:15] <ubotu> oritemis: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:15] <bananenkuerbis> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/85689
[03:16] <soundray> bananenkuerbis: that's very exciting, but the wrong language
[03:17] <Lenaud01-Coding> !ftp
[03:17] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:18] <LazyAngel> hi! anyone knows what has happen to the listen music player repository?
[03:19] <lagrimo> does anyone knows a mobile phone channel?
[03:19] <IdleOne> LazyAngel, the listen music player repository?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> damn
[03:21] <LazyAngel> IdleOne:  deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ dapper listen listen-unstable
[03:21] <oritemis> soundray, for setup a NAT, there are a too?
[03:21] <LazyAngel> IdleOne: it has been removed, and i cant find the replacement. if there are one
[03:22] <oritemis> soundray, or iptables can be used to do that too?
[03:22] <IdleOne> LazyAngel, dont know but I dont think thats an official ubuntu repo
[03:22] <IdleOne> later
[03:23] <LazyAngel> IdleOne: it isnt
[03:23] <kurumin> !list
[03:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:23] <LazyAngel> but i cant be the only one using listen? :S
[03:24] <LazyAngel> oh well... ill build my own package then
[03:24] <freezey> does anybody know where the perl executable on an Ubuntu system is?
[03:24] <LazyAngel> freezey: which perl
[03:24] <ardchoille> freezey: Type: which perl
[03:24] <LazyAngel> freezey: /usr/bin/perl
[03:25] <mwe_> freezey: /usr/bin like most other user binaries
[03:25] <kelsin> LazyAngel: .4.3 is in edgy and .5 is in fiesty, since the repository was removed from the listen website I'd assume it was just taken down. You can probably email the developer and ask why?
[03:25] <LazyAngel> freezey: or "/usr/bin/env perl"
[03:26] <LazyAngel> kelsin: yes, im thinking about it.
[03:30] <oritemis> soundray, I am getting a error starting firestarter. It says that eth0 isn't ready.
[03:32] <bauer77> is there anyone that can help me with an ATI install of a Radeon Mobility 9700
[03:33] <hellmet> Is there a bug in Intel 845G that disallows the display of either the messages or the splash?? I've tried it on two 845Gs
[03:34] <athlon> I am still using 6.06 and been thinking about upgrading to 6.10. Does anyone here who use 6.10 notice a performance increase when using evince to view graphic-heavy pdf docs ?
[03:36] <bauer77> I am having an issue with the ATI drivers I followed the ubuntuguide but I still get  mesa when I run fglrxinfo
[03:37] <blackest> bauer77 its the composite on which is the problem
[03:37] <blackest> turn composite off and it will load but then beryl doesnt work
[03:38] <bauer77> blackest: what do I need to do to resolve the issue?
[03:38] <chiefbearclaw> http://albertomilone.com/index.html < for installing the latest ati drivers under ubuntu edgy this worked great.
[03:38] <bauer77> you mean is xorg.conf
[03:38] <blackest> yep
[03:38] <bauer77> ok let me try that I thought I have done that but let me doublecheck
[03:38] <chiefbearclaw> I have a AGP 4x X1600 pro and ^ was the only thing that got it working
[03:38] <blackest> just need a section turning off the composite adding at the end
[03:38] <chiefbearclaw> I tried it all
[03:39] <blackest> chiefbearclaw did you get beryl working
[03:39] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me fixing dependency problems? I just did an upgrade from dapper to edgy
[03:40] <Zaggynl> output of an 'aptitude dist-upgrade -f' http://www.pastebin.ca/367671
[03:40] <chiefbearclaw> I haven't installed beryl yet
[03:40] <Lenaud01-Coding> can gftp connect multiple times like flashfxp?
[03:40] <chiefbearclaw> first things first lol
[03:41] <freezey> to run a perl script its... make thenfilename
[03:41] <freezey> right?
[03:41] <blackest> I have bad news then chiefbearclaw it wont work on ati
[03:42] <chiefbearclaw> heeh okay I'll keep that in mind
[03:42] <chiefbearclaw> :P
[03:42] <blackest> problem is that composite needs to be on but we both know the ati driver doesnt support it so you get the mesa driver loaded instead if you try it
[03:43] <BounC> Bonjour
[03:43] <CoRe> Hi
[03:43] <BounC> Je voudrais savoir si il y a des risques a l'instalation de ubuntu ?
[03:43] <apokryphos> !fr
[03:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:45] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Any linux/ubuntu-wizards online... need help with a troublesome package that wont install properly OR let itself be removed afterwards!
[03:46] <tomix> anyone help me here. I followed the tutorial for transfering files from desktop to mobile via bluetooth; http://news.softpedia.com/news/Transfer-Files-With-Bluetooth-on-Ubuntu-47565.shtml   but when I create the launcher with the command gnome-obex-send %s it comes back with the error "Unable to read file 's'" Im guessing there is something a miss with command?
[03:47] <Lunar_Lamp> tomix, I *think* you might need to use "%s" not %s
[03:47] <hjmills> is there a 64bit channel or is it all bundled in here?
[03:48] <tomix> Lunar_Lamp: will give that a go
[03:49] <tomix> Lunar_Lamp: now i get unable to connect to device
[03:50] <Lunar_Lamp> tomix, have you turned on bluetooth on the phone etc?
[03:50] <tomix> yar sure have
[03:50] <hjmills> darn - fiesty sure aint stable yet...
[03:50] <bbnec> hi, could anyone help me with a networking problem?
[03:50] <cappiz_> if i modify my menu.lst file in grubl, do i need to update something?
[03:50] <hjmills> any news on a 64bit ubuntu irc channel?
[03:50] <Lunar_Lamp> tomix, sorry then, I really know nothing about bluetooth :-/
[03:50] <hjmills> !amd4
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <hjmills> !amd64
[03:50] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[03:50] <redmonkey> since when is linux stable at all?;)
[03:50] <tomix> Lunar_Lamp: just re connecting to make sure
[03:50] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: what package? and what errormessage do you get?
[03:51] <LazyAngel> hjmills: dont think there is a separate 64-bit one
[03:51] <cappiz_> anyone?
[03:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: package: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[03:51] <Lunar_Lamp> cappiz, no.
[03:51] <LazyAngel> cappiz: no
[03:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: wish that i DID get any error messages... but...
[03:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: when installing apt-get stops at "Configuring linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"
[03:52] <cappiz_> ok. strange :P
[03:52] <hjmills> LazyAngel, oh ok thanks - it may be an idea to prevent over crowding in here
[03:52] <Pici> UbuntuN00B_HBG: What do you mean by it 'stops'?
[03:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: when trying to apt-get remove it, it freezes at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"
[03:52] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[03:52] <rodrigo> hello
[03:53] <jacked> is there a way to add non-US locations to the weather calendar in evolution 2.8? (Edgy)
[03:53] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Pici: it just freezez... and cpu goes to 0%
[03:53] <Pici> hm
[03:53] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: done that, but the installation just freezes when reaching "Configuring linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"
[03:53] <LazyAngel> hjmills: i gave up 64 bit linux a year ago :) too much hazzle
[03:53] <Eamod24> anyone know where i can get my hands on a updated supernodes list for ARES?
[03:54] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: whats the output of uname -a ?
[03:54] <apokryphos> oxygen: /msg ubotu member
[03:54] <hjmills> LazyAngel, im trying it now in the hope that vista (with 64bit support) will help drag the proprietary stuff up to 64bit for us all
[03:54] <Zaggynl> argl
[03:54] <Zaggynl> @%!)97ing dependency problems
[03:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: how do i do that?
[03:55] <Zaggynl> !dependency
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dependency - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: write "uname -a" in the console
[03:55] <soundray> oritemis: still here?
[03:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: "Linux mathias 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux"
[03:56] <LazyAngel> hjmills: well... i read something about the flash. Its not just to compile it for 64 bit. You have to change alot of code as well. And most programs depends on libraries that is only made in 32 bit. so it might take a while
[03:56] <oritemis> soundray, yes, sure.
[03:57] <soundray> oritemis: sorry, I was on the phone. Have you fixed firestarter?
[03:57] <oritemis> soundray, the problems remain.
[03:57] <oritemis> soundray, no problem. I appreciate your help.
[03:57] <bauer77> blackest:  I am still having the same issue even with the composite disabled in xorg.conf
[03:57] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: then you might try some force. "man apt-get"
[03:57] <jacked> is there a way to add non-US locations to the weather calendar in evolution 2.8? (Edgy)
[03:57] <oritemis> soundray, it says that eth0 isn't ready...
[03:57] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: but i wont be able to help you. i have to go. good luck
[03:57] <soundray> oritemis: are you on edgy?
[03:57] <oritemis> soundray, yes.
[03:58] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: ok... thanks... (well... tried it with -f, didnt help)
[03:58] <xtknight> jacked: i'm not sure about evolution but the gnome weather applet is international, at least
[03:58] <oritemis> soundray, I believe it has no ip. may be this the problem?
[03:58] <Zaggynl> I'm stuck at this package called 'libswt3.1-gtk-gcj', I keep getting it back in error messages
[03:59] <soundray> oritemis: is that machine connected to the internet?
[03:59] <oritemis> soundray, is this machine. And it is connect through ppp0
[03:59] <jacked> xtknight: I'm aware of that, thanks.  the evolution configuration file shows that it uses a US gov site for weather forecasting...  this seems to go against the gnome philosophy of internationalization
[04:00] <LasseL> Zaggynl, azureus?
[04:00] <k31th> What is that graphic application like gimp ink some thing iirc?
[04:00] <rb007> I have a really slow connection on Firefox (Dapper).  I read on this thread that it might be a DNS problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289088&page=2).  How do I find out the right DNS to enter?  Currently it says <IP_ADDRESS>.  Any ideas why my connection is so slow?  It's also slow when pinging (94ms).
[04:00] <k31th> rb007: pinging what
[04:01] <rb007> k31th: any site
[04:01] <soundray> oritemis: in that case, you should open firestarter preferences and set ppp0 as the "Internet connected network device"
[04:01] <phazeman> rhkfin: i think your dns name should be set automaticaly by the dhcp, but if you are using static ip you should set it manualy.
[04:01] <k31th> 94ms is not that bad depends where the site is.
[04:01] <rb007> k31th: http://www.inkscape.org
[04:01] <k31th> 254 is your router?
[04:01] <kmaynard> rb007, www.opendns.com  may help speed things up a bit
[04:01] <phazeman> oops that was for rb007 ^^
[04:01] <phazeman> rb007: i think your dns name should be set automaticaly by the dhcp, but if you are using static ip you should set it manualy.
[04:01] <rb007> k31th: I think so
[04:02] <soundray> oritemis: on the local network device, you should probably configure a static address. Likewise on the other device that you are connecting to your ubuntu machine.
[04:02] <rb007> phazeman: why could it be so slow?
[04:02] <PecisDarbs> people, how to recover from such dpkg error which arrived after faulty deb package install:  I wasn't able to locate file for the nginx package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. Nothing works, no remove, no force install/remove, no apt-get, aptitude, etc.
[04:02] <Nalleman> hi there, im trying to change the icon theme for firefox, in order to do that I want to convert a png file to xpm. Have some problem with that. anyone know how to to that?
[04:02] <phazeman> rb007: 97ms is not slow at all
[04:03] <kmaynard> PecisDarbs, you tried  apt-get install -f  yet?
[04:03] <rb007> The computer is not slow in any of the Windows computers on the network -- Sometimes my Ubuntu gets slow like this
[04:03] <oritemis> soundray, it is already. I beliebe eth0 haven't an IP assigned.
[04:03] <PecisDarbs> kmaynard: yep
[04:03] <rb007> painfully slow
[04:03] <phazeman> it's kinda fast if you are talking about internet site that is not located in your home lan
[04:03] <LasseL> rb007, try installing dnsmasq, it can't hurt: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/
[04:03] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: you can edit the cache by hand after creating a backup to remove all traces of the package
[04:03] <soundray> oritemis: assign it via System-Administration-Networking
[04:03] <kmaynard> rb007, set your DNS to openDNS's servers, see what happens
[04:03] <phazeman> rb007: try to traceroute it (tracert)
[04:03] <rb007> phazeman: I thought I was getting much faster last night at home
[04:03] <xtknight> jacked: probably NOAA, right? (for the gov site)
[04:03] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me fixing a couple of broken packages? I'm kinda stuck :(
[04:03] <xtknight> jacked: i thought they had international forecast too but im not sure
[04:03] <phazeman> rb007: see if the routing is right
[04:03] <PecisDarbs> mwe_: where is cache located exactly?
[04:04] <rb007> kmaynard: opendns?
[04:04] <LasseL> Zaggynl, is it azureus?
[04:04] <rb007> phazeman: how do I check that?
[04:04] <Zaggynl> LasseL, nope
[04:04] <Cave> anyone know how I change the language for OpenOffice - for the application?
[04:04] <kmaynard> rb007, www.opendns.com
[04:04] <tomix> what does everyone use here for managing their mobile? Gnokii, opensync?
[04:04] <phazeman> rb007: tracert [some inet addy ere]
[04:05] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: /var/lib/dpkg/status. edit that file with sudo nano after creating a backup of it. locate the entry (10-20 lines) and remove them
[04:05] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: restore the backup if it breaks things
[04:05] <phazeman> rb007: are you using dhcp with your router ?
[04:05] <Zaggynl> the broken packages are: eclipse-pydev-gcj, libgtk-java, libswt3.1-gtk-gcj,libswt3.1-gtk-ini,gij-4.1,libgcj-bc, I can't do anything with them, purge, remove, upgrade, reinstall
[04:05] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: it shouldn't, though, if you do it right.
[04:05] <phazeman> ack... have to go.. boss calling. sorry rb007 .. i will be back shortly...
[04:05] <soundray> oritemis: use <IP_ADDRESS> for ubuntu and <IP_ADDRESS> for the other machine (192.168.x.x is the private address range recommended for home LANs)
[04:05] <rb007> ok thanks
[04:06] <PecisDarbs> mwe_: thanks :)
[04:06] <Zaggynl> Keep getting 'E: libswt3.1-gtk-gcj: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127'
[04:06] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: it will leave the files it installed, though, so you have to remove those by hand
[04:06] <oritemis> soundray, the error changed. it says about a "unkown error" now. lol
[04:06] <soundray> Guys, I'm looking for a one-pass way to rename all .ogg files in a directory based on the id3 tags. What would you recommend?
[04:06] <LasseL> Zaggynl, I'm no expert there, sorry. Have you tried the same commands with --force ?
[04:06] <PecisDarbs> mwe_: sure thing
[04:06] <Zaggynl> ill try
[04:07] <xtknight> Zaggynl: sorry, haven't been following.  having issues removing a package?
[04:07] <oritemis> soundray, but anyway it started the firewall.
[04:07] <soundray> oritemis: close firestarter until you've configured your LAN properly
[04:07] <Zaggynl> xtknight, yep
[04:07] <Zaggynl> trying to do an upgrade from dapper->edgy
[04:07] <nnliu> hi is anyone here familiar with g15daemon?
[04:08] <Eamod24> anyone know where i can get my hands on a updated supernodes list for ARES?
[04:08] <jacked> xtknight: exactly.  I haven't been able to find the international forecasts
[04:08] <xtknight> Zaggynl: actually you could do what mwe_ suggested PecisDarbs do a few lines up.  as in, remove the package from status if you've tried dpkg --purge --force and it still fails
[04:08] <old_cymuHep> !xml
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <xtknight> Zaggynl: i believe it's `sudo dpkg --force-all --purge pkgname` actually
[04:08] <bauer77> can anyone assist me I am trying to get the AT drivers installed but when I run fxlgrinfo it still shows mesa, and I have disabled composite in xorg.conf
[04:08] <Zaggynl> xtknight, okay
[04:08] <soundray> xtknight: wouldn't it be better to edit the postrm script and force a success?
[04:09] <xtknight> soundray: not too sure how to do that.  more trouble , i'm not sure it would make a diff as long as he didn't screw up his "status" edit ;P
[04:09] <rb007> thanks... opendns worked.
[04:10] <soundray> xtknight: status editing always worries me. Maybe I'm paranoid
[04:10] <CPUnerd> anyone knows the default root password for vmplayer images by any chance ?
[04:10] <xtknight> soundray:  it would scare me too but i've done it before
[04:10] <Zaggynl> xtknight, I get the exact same error back on the command line
[04:10] <kmaynard> rb007, sweet
[04:10] <kula> Hi! I'm trying to run a game-server (Farcry), and I get this non-specific-for-FarCry error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found
[04:10] <Zaggynl> subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[04:10] <kmaynard> rb007, did you set it up on your router or on your system?
[04:11] <kula> Does anyone here know what this means? I have gcc-3.4 installed, and I'm thinking it has something to do with that.
[04:11] <mwe> sometimes you don't have any other option than to edit the status file by hand
[04:11] <kmaynard> kula, tried google?
[04:11] <soundray> Zaggynl: you might want to open /var/lib/dpkg/info/libswt3.1-gtk-gcj.postrm and check why it fails
[04:12] <kula> Yes, I have.
[04:12] <xtknight> Zaggynl: `gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status`.  be careful, i recommend backing the file up before doing that cmd.  but once you're in the file search for "Package: libasdasd" or whatever it was
[04:12] <kula> Found out that other applications also get this error..
[04:12] <xtknight> Zaggynl: then just remove that Package: block until you see another 'Package:' line.  stop there.
[04:12] <Zaggynl> I have no problem screwing up the dapper install, I have a backup :)
[04:12] <xtknight> Zaggynl: and try soundray's suggestion first
[04:12] <oritemis> soundray, dhcp server isn't working...
[04:13] <soundray> oritemis: you don't need it if you configure static IP addresses like I suggested
[04:13] <mwe> xtknight: I told him. or he will risk loosing all package information if he screws it up ;)
[04:13] <oritemis> soundray, i will try assign directly the ip on the other machine.
[04:13] <Nalleman> Trying to change the icon theme for firefox, in order to do that I want to convert a png file to xpm. Have some problem with this. anyone know how to to it?
[04:13] <soundray> oritemis: okay, but you have to tell firestarter not to start dhcpd
[04:15] <soundray> How can I rename music files based on ID3 tag contents?
[04:15] <oritemis> soundray, Ok I will not.
[04:16] <soundray> oritemis: have you seen the tickbox in Preferences?
[04:17] <nnliu> hi is anyone here familiar with g15daemon?
[04:17] <Zaggynl> ugh
[04:17] <Zaggynl> I'm going to put back the backup and do the updating over again
[04:17] <tomix> I definetly have a connection with the phone but am getting back 'unable to read file s' when i create launcher with the command "gnome-obex-send %s"
[04:17] <tomix> does anyone know if there is something wrong with the syntax of that command?
[04:18] <monzie> how do i find out which package provides a particular binary?
[04:19] <oritemis> soundray, yes sure. I already setup IPs and both machines, disabled dhcp server. But internet isn't working on the other machine.
[04:19] <xtknight> monzie: dpkg -S /path/to/binary
[04:19] <NevroPus> is there any programs in the ubuntu package manager named convert? So i can convert .jpg files to .eps? I cant find it when I search. Maybe I need to add a rep?
[04:19] <monzie> xtknight: thank you so much
[04:20] <soundray> NevroPus: convert is part of imagemagick
[04:20] <NevroPus> tnx
[04:21] <soundray> oritemis: you will have to manually set up DNS on the other machine
[04:21] <bauer77> can I get a round of applause for myself I finally fixed my ATI issue...
[04:21] <oritemis> soundray, already done.
[04:21] <peterspan> i am somewhat new to linux, trying to set up my linksys WMP54g v2 wireless pci card, can anyone tell me where to start? i've read several guides that assume too much and get me nowhere
[04:21] <bauer77> soundray: thanks
[04:22] <soundray> oritemis: you also have to tell the other machine the IP of the routing machine as the gateway
[04:22] <bauer77> the issue was it kept finding the mesa driver and not the fglrx, i used the rmmod command and it worked
[04:23] <bauer77> I assumed its because I did not reboot
[04:23] <soundray> oritemis: can you ping the ubuntu machine from the other one?
[04:23] <oritemis> soundray, on the other machine, I can ping a internet IP. I believe it is a DNS problem. Since it is a Windows box, I am restarting it.
[04:24] <oritemis> soundray, yes, the ubuntu machine and a outside IP adress.
[04:24] <soundray> oritemis: okay, so it must be the DNS setup. Make sure you can ping the DNS address you've configured.
[04:26] <oritemis> soundray, yes, I can ping the DNS servers. Now I am a little bit confused.
[04:28] <soundray> oritemis: you can ping the DNS servers from Windows?
[04:28] <oritemis> the firewall may be blocking it?
[04:28] <oritemis> soundray, yes, I can.
[04:28] <soundray> oritemis: try telnet www.heise.de 80
[04:29] <soundray> oritemis: oops, I'm not sure if you can telnet a specific port like that on Windows
[04:30] <Tatta> Hello, im trying to install Rt2500 (wlan card) however I got problems getting the linux headers, when doing sudo apt-get linux-headers-$(uname -r) it returns E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386. Any idea how to get the headers? :S
[04:30] <black_> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[04:31] <Chocobo> I have a friend that is trying to connect his ubuntu laptop to a network printer.  I (on Arch linux) use the cups web interface and enter in the URI:  socket://hostname:9100   how do I get my friend to do the same thing with the Ubuntu gui?
[04:31] <ruvia99> ola
[04:32] <Chocobo> No ideas?
[04:33] <soundray> Chocobo: System-Administration-Printing
[04:34] <ruvia99> ola
[04:34] <mixandgo> hello, any idea why I get this : iptables v1.2.11: can't initialize iptables table `NAT': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[04:34] <soundray> Chocobo: the cups web interface is on port 631 by default, but I'm not sure if it's configured by default to let you make changes
[04:35] <JONES3700> still stuck on 800x600 res and a wacky screen refresh rate after installing nvidia drivers, any help?
[04:35] <Tatta> restarted gnome?
[04:35] <JONES3700> yep
[04:35] <Chocobo> soundray, ahh, ok... so maybe I need to modify the config to allow the web based configuration?
[04:35] <JONES3700> played with the xorg.conf too
[04:35] <Tatta> have u tried editing the resolution even? :P
[04:35] <JONES3700> yeah
[04:35] <soundray> Chocobo: possibly. But I recommend the way via the gnome interface
[04:35] <AMorozov> Hi!
[04:35] <ardchoille> JONES3700: Did you do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:36] <AMorozov> Can anybody tell if totem ( 2.16.2-0ubuntu1, on xine engine) really supports playing VCD?
[04:37] <JONES3700> yeah I tried that too
[04:37] <Chocobo> soundray, I don
[04:37] <AMorozov> 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.2
[04:37] <AMorozov> I mean, libxine_1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.2
[04:38] <Chocobo> soundray, I dont know what selections to make to enter the socket://hostname:9100 URI.   I would assume I select Network Printer, or HP JetDirect.
[04:39] <athlon> I have kubuntu 6.06 with gnome-desktop installed. If I wanted to upgrade must I use kubuntu dvd or can I use ubuntu ?
[04:39] <soundray> Chocobo: if you select Unix Printer (LPD), you just have to give it the printer's hostname and the queue name
[04:40] <Chocobo> soundray, what is an example que name?
[04:40] <soundray> Chocobo: pr1
[04:40] <Chocobo> ok.  I will give it a shor.
[04:40] <Chocobo> shot.
[04:40] <soundray> athlon: best not to use a CD/DVD at all, but do a net upgrade
[04:41] <soundray> !upgrade | athlon
[04:41] <ubotu> athlon: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:41] <guzu> hello all
[04:41] <MarcN> Any recommendations for a simple IRCd? I'm going to an event and want to setup a standalone server.
[04:42] <guzu> here's a pic that looks familiar: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/clipart/default.aspx
[04:42] <soundray> Chocobo: I like the way you ask for help. It's so much easier to support people who think for themselves ;)
[04:42] <kmaynard> ha
[04:42] <Tatta> ah anyone remember monitor mode command by hand?
[04:43] <Nalleman> Trying to change the icon theme for firefox, in order to do that I want to convert a png file to xpm. Have some problem with this. anyone know how to to it?
[04:44] <Chocobo> I don't know if that was sarcastice or not, but I have tried many many different things to get this printer working.   It is just that I understand the cups web interface and not the gui that is supplied with an unfamiliar distrobution.   Anyways, thanks for the help.
[04:44] <soundray> Nalleman: what problem is that?
[04:44] <soundray> Chocobo: no, I was dead serious
[04:44] <Nalleman> soundray, when i try to save it in gimp it dont work
[04:44] <soundray> Chocobo: lots of people come here and ask to be spoonfed.
[04:45] <kmaynard> linux printing is a strange and difficult beast
[04:45] <AMorozov> Does anybody use totem here? :-)
[04:45] <Chocobo> Ahh. sorry.  I saw the ;)  and took that as sarcasm.  you know IRC is full fo that :)  I am sorry soundray.
[04:45] <soundray> Nalleman: give me a bit of detail on "dont work"
[04:45] <AMorozov> kmaynard: oh, really? :-)
[04:45] <Pici> !anyone
[04:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:45] <kmaynard> AMorozov, ya rly ;)
[04:45] <Nalleman> soundray, hold on
[04:47] <EricJ> quick question - is it yet possible to dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty herd4?
[04:47] <AMorozov> last time I made a clear linux installation, I even didn't configure the net printer at all. It was detected automatically, and all required configurations were done without a single bit of interaction.
[04:47] <soundray> EricJ: you can try, but if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces
[04:48] <swilliamson> can someone give me a hand with my xorg.conf I have a dell laptop on a docking station
[04:48] <soundray> EricJ: seriously, wait until the release unless you want to help in testing.
[04:48] <AMorozov> Still don't know how the printer announces itself in the net indeed :-)
[04:48] <Nalleman> soundray, wierd. now it worked without problem
[04:48] <soundray> Nalleman: glad I could help :)
[04:49] <EricJ> soundray: I'm running edgy on gf's machine, and it's far too buggy for her to feel comfortable
[04:49] <Nalleman> soundray,  ;)
[04:49] <athlon> soundray,  thing is, I dont have internet connection at home
[04:49] <EricJ> she's thinking of switching to windows - I need to do something drastic :(
[04:49] <soundray> EricJ: what you don't want in this situation is to upgrade to an alpha version of the distribution
[04:49] <soundray> EricJ: what do you mean by buggy
[04:49] <soundray> Oh, doorbell...
[04:50] <AMorozov> EricJ: bring a couple of evil viruses :-)
[04:50] <EricJ> soundray: well.. she encounters a bug about every day or so
[04:50] <EricJ> never seen anything like it
[04:50] <AMorozov> EricJ: she should got a QA position at Canonical :-)
[04:51] <EricJ> soundray: just a few minutes ago, firefox didn't opened her php-files properly
[04:51] <EricJ> for example
[04:51] <mister> hi
[04:51] <AMorozov> EricJ: how does FF do it exactly?
[04:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Anyone here who can help me with my screwed up apt-get???
[04:52] <dmb062082> hey
[04:52] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: try to specify the problem :)
[04:52] <AMorozov> UbuntuN00B_HBG: depends on how you've screwed itup.
[04:52] <EricJ> AMorozov: it asks her what to do with the file (open, save etc) and she chooses open - then it opens up a new, blank tab
[04:52] <soundray> EricJ: I bet your gf will break Windows at least as often
[04:53] <soundray> EricJ: sounds like a misconfigured apache to me
[04:53] <dmb062082> if i wanted to back up ubuntu data so if i had to do a fresh install what folders should i back up to copy over after fresh install... /usr /home and what else?
[04:53] <AMorozov> EricJ: where the files actually reside?
[04:53] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: well... whatever i try to install / remove, apt-get finds a package named "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic" that it wants to remove (and it should)... the problem is...
[04:53] <EricJ> AMorozov: in her home folder
[04:53] <dmb062082> to keep everything intact
[04:53] <EricJ> soundray: is apache even installed per default on ubuntu?
[04:53] <Pici> EricJ: No.
[04:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: that if i tell it to remove it it just freezes at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..." and nothing more happends!
[04:54] <AMorozov> EricJ: probably they should be opened as text files... At least, I think so :-)
[04:54] <soundray> EricJ: oh, you're loading .php files via the file: protocol? Well, what do you expect to happen?
[04:54] <AMorozov> I didn't try though.
[04:55] <EricJ> soundray: I expect her to open a php-file and see its contents in firefox
[04:55] <EricJ> w/ html and all
[04:55] <EricJ> i'm not expecting it to parse the php code since apache isn't installed - it don't need to be
[04:55] <AMorozov> EricJ: reasonably.
[04:55] <EricJ> i'm fine with her viewing the php code islands
[04:56] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: did you try by dpkg?
[04:56] <soundray> EricJ: so firefox falls short of her expectations as a php source viewer?
[04:56] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: dpkg --remove <package_name>
[04:56] <exs> Guys, I really need some help. I was bought a domain along time ago, it had email too.. Well, it's all been fairly ok up until now where I was no longer able to receive email. I've removed a lot of junk from my inbox and I'm desperately trying to get it to receive emails. Is there any way I am able to 'forward' emails to another location, or just to fix it?
[04:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: dpkg --configure -a / apt-get clean/purge/remove
[04:56] <leal> alguem aqui fala portugues
[04:57] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: tried dpkg --remove too... same thing!
[04:57] <EricJ> soundray: more as a webpage-previewer I guess, but..
[04:57] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: With force?
[04:57] <EricJ> .. I suppose installing apache would solve the problem.. I think.
[04:57] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: with -f and -m
[04:57] <EricJ> hmm.. I need to give this some thought
[04:58] <AMorozov> EricJ: Ahhh, got the idea.
[04:59] <AMorozov> FF asks to open this file in a text editor, if opens a php file from a local disk.
[04:59] <soundray> I'm looking for a program that will rename a number of .ogg files based on their ID3 tags. Can you help?
[04:59] <vivh349> do you know when i can find libiberty ???
[04:59] <Pici> EricJ: FF is not a source code viewer, change the default application for php files to something like gedit
[04:59] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: dpkg with --force-all ???
[05:00] <tfh> soundray: exfalso
[05:00] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: sudo dpkg --remove --force-all linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ?
[05:00] <zoli2k> yes
[05:00] <AMorozov> So you either don't have a text/* handler configured, or it's broken somehow.
[05:00] <royel> exs: often you can get your domain registrar to redirect your MX records to another IP, I would check with them
[05:01] <exs> royel:  thanks
[05:01] <soundray> tfh: thanks, looking good -- do you use it?
[05:01] <tomek_> hej
[05:02] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: ok... it has reached "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ...", keep your fingers crossed... but it seems to have frozen again... CPU 0%
[05:02] <vivh349> sorry...
[05:03] <vivh349> do you know when i can find the librairy "libiberty" ???
[05:03] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: How did you reach this state of package system?
[05:03] <Zaggynl> !update
[05:03] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:04] <soundray> vivh349: I think you're looking for binutils-dev
[05:04] <soundray> !info binutils-dev | vivh349
[05:04] <ubotu> vivh349: binutils-dev: The GNU binary utilities (BFD development files). In component main, is extra. Version 2.17-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2396 kB, installed size 6184 kB
[05:04] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: i think it was when i ran the autoinstaller from ati for my x800xt-card... it just frose at its last state... since then its like this...
[05:04] <vivh349> do you speak french ?
[05:04] <royel> !fr | vivh349
[05:05] <ubotu> vivh349: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:05] <mwe> I have two files with lines that are mostly identical. Can I somehow extract the few lines that are only present in one of the files?
[05:05] <Zaggynl> Okay, I restored my backup
[05:05] <mwe> diff maybe?
[05:05] <vivh349> i cant go on #ubuntu fr, i dont know why...
[05:05] <Zaggynl> I tried the command 'gksu "updatemanager -c", I enter my password,...nothing happens
[05:05] <royel> vivh349: /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:05] <vivh349> in binutils-dev, see you ??
[05:05] <soundray> mwe: yes, diff and grep for ^\> or ^\<
[05:05] <Zaggynl> nvm, forgot a dash ><
[05:06] <mimilus> vivh349, I'm french
[05:06] <mwe> soundray: thanks
[05:06] <Nalleman> now I have converted the icons in /usr/share/firefox/icons but firefox still uses the old icons. Why?
[05:06] <Bnirkow> hello
[05:06] <soundray> Nalleman: have you restarted firefox?
[05:07] <soundray> vivh349: 'sudo apt-get install binutils-dev'
[05:07] <Nalleman> soundray, yes
[05:07] <Nalleman> and X
[05:07] <vivh349> its good its go
[05:07] <Pici> Nalleman: What icons are you trying to replace?
[05:07] <Nalleman> all the default icons
[05:07] <cfedde> Is it firefox that has some kind of IP-Name address cache? is there some way to flush that?
[05:08] <Bnirkow> i`m on feisty and i have problem with installation of beryl... when i start beryl-manager from terminal i see: " Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" "  how to fix it??
[05:08] <moginspace> i just installed my first ubuntu (edgy) ! yeah for me anyway...
[05:08] <soundray> Nalleman: you may have to replace them in /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default/ as well
[05:08] <Pici> Nalleman: You mean like the FF theme icons? the document icons? The application icon in gnome/kde?
[05:08] <moginspace> nautilus seems to think i have two floppy drives, and I'm pretty sure I only got one
[05:09] <Nalleman> Pici,  the FF theme icon i guess
[05:09] <vivh349> thank you, its that !
[05:09] <Nalleman> soundray, tryin that out now...
[05:09] <soundray> moginspace: it's possible that your BIOS reports two drives. Disable one of them in the BIOS setup
[05:09] <idefix_> what is the matter with hotmail? am I the only one who sees mail at the hotmail server without pictures?
[05:10] <moginspace> we'll give it a whirl  @
[05:12] <Nalleman> soundray, thank you. it worked!
[05:12] <soundray> Nalleman: glad I could *really* help this time :)
[05:13] <Nalleman> Now im trying the same for thunderbird... bbl :)
[05:13] <soundray> Nalleman: but I wonder why firefox maintains two locations for those pixmaps
[05:13] <Nalleman> yes. its wierd
[05:14] <soundray> Nalleman: I worked this out by using 'locate default.xpm'. This will probably help with T-Bird as well
[05:14] <Nalleman> soundray, :) thanx
[05:16] <Corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[05:16] <schteff> hi
[05:17] <sylpheedClaws> hi
[05:17] <tmorenom> soy un desconocido, que esta pasando unos momentos muy dificiles
[05:17] <schteff> i've a problem
[05:17] <sylpheedClaws> so does everyone
[05:17] <Parmenides> question: I have dependency issues on an install, it is looking for older versions, I know I need to uncomment some lines in a config file.... but can't remember what one
[05:17] <sylpheedClaws> what is it
[05:17] <Corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[05:18] <schteff> i want to install ubuntu
[05:18] <Pici> Corvus: its /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:18] <soundray> Parmenides: probably /etc/apt/sources.list -- also have a look at the bot's recommendation:
[05:18] <soundray> !repos | Parmenides
[05:18] <ubotu> Parmenides: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:18] <Pici> !es | tmorenom
[05:18] <ubotu> tmorenom: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:18] <schteff> but there's a problem he can't find a hard drive
[05:18] <tmorenom> solo necesito el saber de los medicos para salvar a una persona allegada, un padre nuestro no es valido
[05:19] <schteff> maybe it's a raid problem :( or sth
[05:19] <soundray> schteff: is this your first ubuntu installation? If so, I'd suggest you get started with a non-RAID setup
[05:19] <bXi> how can i redirect all sound on the line-in to my line-out
[05:20] <schteff> ye, i dont want to install raid or sth. like this i just want to install ubuntu... raid or not i dont care
[05:20] <Pici> !es > tmorenom
[05:20] <tmorenom> un saludo a tdoas y a todos
[05:20] <soundray> !es | tmorenom
[05:20] <flat_out_lizard> exit
[05:20] <ubotu> tmorenom: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <flat_out_lizard> q
[05:21] <flat_out_lizard> quit
[05:22] <Pici> I think he said he left
[05:22] <schteff>  I'm back in 5 min.  and then i hope sb. helps me :)
[05:22] <AMorozov> bye
[05:23] <mariano> soundray: from the looks of it and the sense of what he was saying, it's a rather bad attempt at a spanish speaking bot
[05:24] <method|> what can i use to access microsoft visio files in linux?
[05:24] <sylpheedClaws> Dia
[05:24] <sylpheedClaws> method|: Dia is the equivalent program
[05:24] <method|> thank u
[05:24] <sylpheedClaws> I think it can be installed with Automatix
[05:24] <sylpheedClaws> !automatix | method|
[05:24] <ubotu> method|: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:25] <Pici> Read !automatix please sylpheedClaws
[05:25] <method|> i dont use automatix
[05:25] <method|> :/
[05:25] <ardchoille> sylpheedClaws: Dia? dia can be installed with: sudo apt-get install dia
[05:25] <zyth> I do
[05:25] <zyth> works fine for me
[05:25] <zyth> ymmv.