[00:00] <Sosumi> and someone mentioned that it was a kernel bug
[00:00] <tomreyn> rictec: great, good luck there.
[00:00] <Sosumi> well, it wasn't,
[00:01] <Sosumi> the crash/sudden restart was happening because cpu instability
[00:02] <MartynKeigher> hey all...i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 (complete fresh install with updates) and i cant edit a text file. i dont have the option to SAVE, its greyed out. how can i full full admin rifghts to modify a file?
[00:02] <Sosumi> even through I was using the default OC profile at the my mobo's uefi
[00:02] <MartynKeigher> how can i open it as sudo su ?
[00:03] <Sosumi> bu that's it, some tweeking and matlab now runs well
[00:03] <MartynKeigher> without having to do that everytime?
[00:03] <MartynKeigher> or promote my acocunt ot sudo su?
[00:03] <linxon634> .дшые
[00:04] <tomreyn> Sosumi: glad you found a solution (but i wasn't there at the time). was it overheating? if you think it's a cpu bug and you have an intel CPU then try running this and reboot: sudo update-intel-microcode
[00:04] <rek1us> hi, can anyone answer some questions with the older version of ubuntu 10.04. I am having some wireless issues with a Lenovo thnkpad t42
[00:04] <phoenixsampras> I have unity in 64 bits, core i7, and it Sucks
[00:04] <shcherbak>  MartynKeigher sudo nano /path/to/file
[00:04] <phoenixsampras> how to speed up unity?
[00:05] <tomreyn> MartynKeigher: make sure that you really know what you're doing before you edit files with sudo. you normally don't need to do this.
[00:06] <Sosumi> it wasn't overheating, just instability with the default setting provided by asus,
[00:06] <MartynKeigher> thanks & i'
[00:06] <tomreyn> MartynKeigher: you definitely do not want to escalate your accounts' default authority to root. linux uses a different permission system than windows did for many years, so what you learnt there cannot be applies to linux 1 to 1
[00:06] <MartynKeigher> i'll be careful!
[00:06] <tomreyn> *applied
[00:07] <Sosumi> it's running fine now at @4,2ghz with no issues
[00:07] <blake> good evening. im having problems disabling my backlight for my laptop. i have a sony vaio vpcf236fm. ive been searching for weeks on how to disable this
[00:07] <MartynKeigher> is it in the BIOS blake?
[00:07] <shcherbak> MartynKeigher: yeats tomreyn is right, do copy of file you want to edit, just in case
[00:07] <blake> i couldnt find the option in the bios
[00:09] <MartynKeigher> im wokring on a ruby project and file i need to edit is "ok if i get wrong". if you see what i mean. i will be editing this file a lot. this is a standalone laptop with a plain ubuntu install an di know way will anything go "critaclly" wrong if i have sudo access. how can i get that access?
[00:10] <linxon634> blake good evening??? 0_o
[00:11] <blake> ?
[00:13] <tomreyn> MartynKeigher: you seem to have some typos in there, can you correct those or rephrase, i'm having trouble understanding your question
[00:15] <voxadam> I want to install Ubuntu on a netbook using a USB hard drive. How do I make it bootable?
[00:16] <|Slacker|> use unetbootin
[00:16] <voxadam> Thanks.
[00:17] <shcherbak> MartynKeigher: gksudo gedit (or whatever editor)
[00:17] <MartynKeigher> got it thanks.
[00:23] <Ca11umD> I have just installed Ubuntu Server 12.10, but the overscan settings on my HD monitor are wrong (and not changable via the monitor itself). I cannot see a percent of the border of the screen. How can I correct it?
[00:26] <brightbeat> My Ubuntu 11.04 stoped updating when I run "apt-get update & apt-get upgrade" can someone help me with that?
[00:27] <|Slacker|> brightbeat, is it the lts one?
[00:28] <shcherbak> !11.04
[00:32] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | brightbeat
[00:33] <brightbeat> bazhang: thanks
[00:33] <brightbeat> shcherbak: thanks
[00:34] <t_pol> hey there i am using openbox and i need to write a script to launch the programs i usually need, however how where can i store it so that my script launches as soon as openbox is loaded?
[00:34] <JonEdney> Where can I find an .iso for the Ubuntu 12.10 alternate?
[00:34] <bazhang> !alternate | JonEdney
[00:35] <JonEdney> bazhang, thank you for that.  Is there an alternate to installing an OEM copy, for someone else's PC?
[00:35] <kunji> t_pol: Umm, you could call it from the .xprofile if it's just for one user.
[00:35] <bazhang> JonEdney, remastering one?
[00:36] <JonEdney> bazhang, installing on a laptop for a friend, I'd like to install and allow them to set up their own credentials/settings.
[00:37] <t_pol> kunji, if i store my script there will it launch as soon as openbox launches?
[00:37] <traubisoda> hi
[00:38] <kunji> t_pol: It should launch when X starts I believe, so it should be right before... my bad, you need after don't you.  I think the .bashrc file should work for you.
[00:38] <traubisoda> i have two ubuntu PCs (12.04 and 13.04), am i able to log in from one to the other PC from login screen directly to the other desktop?
[00:38] <kunji> t_pol: But I'm not very familiar with openbox
[00:38] <blake> Hello, im having issues with disabling my backlight. I have a sony vaio vpcf236fm
[00:40] <t_pol> kunji, ok i will try thanks for the tip
[00:40] <traubisoda> should i use XMBC?
[00:41] <YesMan> On Ubuntu 12.04, to permanently change the IP address I need to edit /etc/network/interfaces , correct?
[00:41] <tomreyn> JonEdney: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/oem-config-remaster should allow for creating an installation CD with OEM install capability.
[00:42] <traubisoda> YesMan i may be wrong, but i think that should be done in your router's config
[00:42] <cincinnatus> Is there an "remote desktop" application for Ubuntu that keeps the local desktop locked while the user is logged in remotely (like Remote Desktop on Windows)?
[00:43] <tomreyn> YesMan: which ip address do you want to set permanently, the one of a computer in your LAN? nice nickname btw. ;)
[00:44] <yourslave> anyone know how i can do sudo in one line shell command
[00:44] <yourslave> with password
[00:44] <yourslave> problem is my password has a special character in it
[00:44] <tomreyn> cincinnatus: i would not know one, but i'm very interested in the use case. i always understood Ms does this to make you buy more licenses, is there a serious use case to this artificial shortening?
[00:45] <cincinnatus> tomreyn: The use case is this: corporate policy requires that all desktops be locked when the employee is not at their desk
[00:45] <YesMan> traubisoda: My VPS server has venet0 with an IP address of <IP_ADDRESS>. I want that to be <IP_ADDRESS>. Via sudo, I edited /etc/network/interfaces (which has the IP address for venet0 as <IP_ADDRESS>) to have an ip of <IP_ADDRESS>. I rebooted my VPS and the ip of venet0 was <IP_ADDRESS>. Did I edit the correct file? Or is something else changing my IP?
[00:45] <cincinnatus> tomreyn: Let's say a janitor walks by. You don't want them logging in to production system
[00:45] <cincinnatus> s
[00:46] <yourslave> how long does sudo login usually stay in effect for in ubuntu ?
[00:46] <YesMan> er sorry I meant to respond to tomreyn
[00:47] <l057c0d3r> sudo on a terminal stays active untill you close the terminal from my experience
[00:47] <l057c0d3r> but once you close the terminal and reopen it you have to re type the password on sudo
[00:47] <phunyguy> it will time out after some time, l057c0d3r, yourslave
[00:48] <atseng> who is girl here??
[00:48] <phunyguy> I dont know what the timeout is
[00:48] <yourslave> how long ?
[00:48] <yourslave> lol
[00:48] <yourslave> ok
[00:48] <yourslave>  ..
[00:48] <FloodBot1> yourslave: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <VeloxAmbitum> GIYBF
[00:48] <Android62> why is ubuntu so hot
[00:48] <l057c0d3r> i see..  i guess i've never left one open long enough for it to time out..
[00:49] <l057c0d3r> Android62, hot?
[00:49] <phunyguy> I looked it up, default is 15 minutes, yourslave.
[00:49] <yourslave> i c
[00:49] <yourslave> thx
[00:49] <Android62> I mean, my computer is running at like 96 degrees
[00:49] <phoenixsampras> ubuntu is kinda bugged
[00:49] <VeloxAmbitum> that's hardware
[00:49] <shcherbak> yourslave: 5 minutes, man sudo
[00:49] <l057c0d3r> Android62, what are you using to check the temp
[00:49] <atseng> who is need phone sex with me,chat to me
[00:49] <phunyguy> !op
[00:50] <atseng> just girl only
[00:50] <lapamatop> dir
[00:50] <IdleOne> !guidelines > atseng
[00:50] <VeloxAmbitum> Linux requires very little. Either the sensor stuff is wrong, or your computer is broken (e.g. broken fan)
[00:50] <tomreyn> cincinnatus: i see. makes sense, but i don't know your solution. there are different models of VNC servers available in ubuntu, you could check those out. maybe what you need is to attach to a framebuffer.
[00:50] <phoenixsampras> lol, dating in Ubuntu... wonder what kind of girls are around... LULz
[00:51] <VeloxAmbitum> Penguin girls
[00:51] <lapamatop> @find george
[00:51] <blake> Hello. Im having issues tryin to figure out how to disable the keyboard backlight on my sony vaio vpcf236fm. ive look everywere for an answer and cant find one :(
[00:51] <l057c0d3r> i have a system monitor it has a widget as well.. and when i use it if i have it display the temp on the actual app it reads higher then it does when i just have it display the temp on mouse over....
[00:51] <IdleOne> Please stay on the topic of Ubuntu support.
[00:51] <phunyguy> !ot | phoenixsampras, VeloxAmbitum
[00:51] <kernsprog> at least you'd have something in common.
[00:51] <Android62> ubuntu is overheating my chromebook constantly
[00:51] <phoenixsampras> walrus girls, lol
[00:51] <lapamatop> PSENSOR TO CHECK TEMP
[00:51] <l057c0d3r> yet when i used command sensors in terminal it gave the same temp as the mouse over report...  so some widgets report wrong
[00:52] <phoenixsampras> ok, how to speed up Unity?
[00:52] <Android62> I havr it crash constantly due to heat.
[00:52] <cincinnatus> phoneixsampras: Do a google search for ubuntu wallpaper. You'll find lots of beautiful girls :)
[00:52] <phunyguy> I say again.
[00:52] <phunyguy> !ot | cincinnatus
[00:52] <tomreyn> YesMan: check with your hosting provider. chances are that they have fixed this ip address and you are unable to change it.
[00:52] <tomreyn> ...
[00:53] <lapamatop_> @list
[00:53] <lapamatop_> dir
[00:53] <tomreyn> !list | lapamatop_
[00:53] <lapamatop_> ty
[00:53] <lapamatop_> !list
[00:54]  * l057c0d3r palmslaps his face...
[00:54] <cincinnatus> tomreyn: VNC usually leaves the desktop unlocked by default - even on Windows
[00:54] <nronksr> For picture slideshows, what is lightweight program?
[00:54] <atseng> how to change??
[00:54] <tomreyn> cincinnatus: depends on how the server works. by default VNC is mostly a network protocol.
[01:00] <tomreyn> cincinnatus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing#Operation
[01:00] <macklenc> Hey everyone, does anyone know much about gnome 3.6? My install of gnome seems to crash after it goes to the lock screen and the screen turns off...
[01:08] <phoenixsampras> what is the default openerp password?
[01:12] <aeon-ltd> phoenixsampras: try admin
[01:13] <tomreyn> https://startpage.com/do/search?q=default+openerp+password
[01:13] <jakepiano> hi i have an issue with my ethernet. it seems like ubuntu is not recognizing my network card. i'm duelbooting windows and 12.04 lts. the lights don't turn on either. what do i do?
[01:14] <phoenixsampras> jakepiano: sounds like a hardware problem
[01:14] <jakepiano> phoenixsampras yeah well i got it fixed recently. i sent it back to lenovo for them to fix it. it's working with win8 but not ubuntu
[01:15] <Xeon3D> jakepiano: network as in ethernet or network as in wireless
[01:15] <Xeon3D> ?
[01:15] <jakepiano> Xeon3D network as in ethernet. i'm connected to wireless just fine
[01:15] <Xeon3D> hmmm strange
[01:15] <Xeon3D> does it show up in a lspci -nn ?
[01:16] <phoenixsampras> jakepiano: sounds like incompatibility
[01:16] <tomreyn> jakepiano: run this and post only the resulting HTTP address here: lspci -knnv | grep -A10 Ethernet | pastebinit
[01:16] <Xeon3D> jakepiano: also, make and model of ethernet card and laptop would help a bit.
[01:17] <tomreyn> (i'm assuming you do have internet acces on ubuntu using your wireless)
[01:18] <jakepiano> tomreyn yes i do.
[01:18]  * IveBeenBit is away: Walking teh dgo.
[01:18] <jakepiano> Xeon3D its a lenovo G480 but i don't know how to find out the ethernet card
[01:18] <jakepiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606571/
[01:19] <tomreyn> !away | IveBeenBit
[01:19] <jakepiano> tomreyn http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606571/
[01:19] <tomreyn> jakepiano: according to this you have an atheros AR8162 NIC on a lenovo laptop
[01:20] <Xeon3D> jakepiano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2050126
[01:21] <jakepiano> Xeon3D is post number 4 the one to use?
[01:22] <Xeon3D> jakepiano: 4 or 6… :P
[01:22] <jakepiano> thanks i'll try and see
[01:23] <iuri> Hi there
[01:24] <iuri> After upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 my wireless driver is gone
[01:24] <iuri> What pkg should I (RE)install
[01:24] <iuri> :
[01:24] <iuri> ?
[01:25] <tomreyn> jakepiano: run this: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw
[01:25] <yourslave> anyone have any experience telneting into tor
[01:26] <yva> is there a way to know in which format a file is compressed in?
[01:26] <phunyguy> !anyone | yourslave
[01:26] <tomreyn> jakepiano: this will install additional driver modules, and this should include the "alx" module you are lacking
[01:26] <yourslave> i can't get it to authenticate
[01:27] <yourslave> has nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:27] <k1l> yourslave: better ask the tor support
[01:27] <jakepiano> tomreyn i actually just got it working. should i still install that?
[01:27] <Ramtron> Hi, I was trying to install Ubuntu on a separate partition, but it says "No root file system is defined"
[01:27] <tomreyn> jakepiano: how did you get it to work?
[01:28] <jakepiano> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2050126 post number 4
[01:28] <phunyguy> !ot | yourslave
[01:28] <bravis> ./ is root must be defined on the partition you are trying to install to.  with out the dot
[01:28] <Ramtron> I typed /dev/sda
[01:28] <Ramtron> as all the others have
[01:28] <Bsims> What is a well supported 17" laptop these days?
[01:29] <Ramtron> Asus is amazing
[01:29] <phunyguy> !hcl
[01:29] <jonathan_> I have a AE1000 wireless adapter, it works fine in windows 7, but since using it in ubuntu 12.04 it disconnects alot, any ideas
[01:29] <tomreyn> jakepiano: if you only needed to flip it to ON, then no. if you also needed to download the software discussed there and do make installand modprobe, then yes
[01:29] <guideX> I know this is a little off topic, but how do I point my ubuntu 12.10 lamp apache to a website on my hard drive? I did the etc/hosts, or maybe someone knows a good link
[01:29] <Ramtron> Where is the "partitioning menu"?
[01:30] <jakepiano> tomreyn well i don't know if i needed to flip it on or not. as far as i'm concerned, the ethernet wasn't being detected at all. but now its connected
[01:30] <tomreyn> jakepiano: in the latter case you just installed some non-packaged software on ubuntu, something which should be prevented if possible, or at least be considered 2nd choice.
[01:30] <phunyguy> guidex, #ubuntu-server would probably be more helpful, it is an apache config item
[01:30] <phunyguy> ermmm
[01:31] <phunyguy> guideX ^^^
[01:31] <guideX> thanks
[01:31] <jonathan_> does that happen to anyone else
[01:31] <erwel> w
[01:31] <bravis> Sony Vaio Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz × 8  works quite nicely.
[01:31] <jakepiano> tomreyn i also just tried your command and it said the package wasn't detected
[01:31] <tomreyn> jakepiano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12206393&postcount=4 contains two boxes which are titled "code". did you need to run the command in the first box to make it work, or also the commands in the second box?
[01:32] <jakepiano> just the ones in the second box
[01:32] <EmLeX> bravis: i bet.
[01:33] <tomreyn> jakepiano: which ubuntu version?
[01:33] <jakepiano> 12.04 lts
[01:33] <phunyguy> Lenovo is good as well.  Haven't had any real issues except on the newer models with older ubuntu, but that is more intel chipset related.
[01:33] <mysteriousdaren> asus has treated me well
[01:34] <EmLeX> mysteriousdaren: i have fallen in love with viritulizing ubuntu on macbooks
[01:34] <EmLeX> then i get some real firewall power infront aswell^^ :)
[01:35] <mysteriousdaren> EmLex: well that works but I only use a vm for servers mostly, rarely ubuntu on a vm
[01:35] <Ramtron> Hi, I've figured out my problem, but now I'm wondering do I NEED a SWAP Partition?
[01:35] <phunyguy> a mac is real firewall power?  (and offtopic)
[01:35] <mysteriousdaren> EmLex: what firewall do you use? lol
[01:35] <EmLeX> phunyguy: nah.. was thinking about pfsense.
[01:35] <Ramtron> Anyone?
[01:35] <EmLeX> mysteriousdaren: pfsense viritulized infront of my viritulized buntu^^
[01:35] <phunyguy> Ramtron, depends on your specific needs
[01:36] <mysteriousdaren> Ramtron: how much ram do you need?
[01:36] <Ramtron> My needs are specifically to install ubuntu and download windows 7
[01:36] <bravis> it sure helps on certain things
[01:36] <mysteriousdaren> or have?
[01:36] <ikonia> Ramtron: anyone what ?
[01:36] <Ramtron> I have no OS
[01:36] <phunyguy> ..."Download Windows 7" ?
[01:36] <Ramtron> I have 4gb of ram
[01:36] <VeloxAmbitum> Keep no OS
[01:36] <Ramtron> I meant windows 8, and from my school website
[01:36] <phunyguy> lets stay helpful.
[01:37] <ikonia> Ramtron: is there a problem allocating a swap partition ?
[01:37] <Ramtron> No, it just recommends I use one, but I don't see a point unless you guys do
[01:37] <mysteriousdaren> i'd do it, even using a ssd with lots of ram.
[01:37] <Bsims> Ramtron: no with that much ram, I'd not bother
[01:37] <phunyguy> EmLeX, another offtopic tidbit, Endian firewall is really nice as an appliance, including in a VM
[01:38] <mysteriousdaren> depends on the person
[01:38] <Ramtron> Thanks bsims
[01:38] <ikonia> Ramtron: are you using ubuntu as a desktop, or just to download windows then remove it ?
[01:38] <ikonia> or do you plan to keep ubuntu
[01:38] <EmLeX> phunyguy: cool.. havent heard about it.. but will check it out
[01:38] <Ramtron> I want to keep the partition for future use
[01:38] <Ramtron> just in case
[01:38] <ikonia> Ramtron: then put a swap partition on
[01:38] <Ramtron> Hmm, whats the minimum size?
[01:39] <ikonia> there isn't one
[01:39] <ikonia> apply a bit of common sense/logic
[01:39] <Ramtron> Be rude more
[01:39] <ikonia> ?
[01:41] <tomreyn> jakepiano: the problem is that what you have now will break next time you update the kernel. i suggest you try runnig this: gksudo jockey-gtk
[01:41] <tomreyn> oh he's gone
[01:52] <VlanX> i have a problem with any internal sata HDD that i mount with ext4 filesystem, i get costant writes (probably journalling?) with average of 4mbps.. please advise!
[01:53] <escott> VlanX, you probably just have an application writing to the disk. check with iotop
[01:54] <VlanX> escott: already done, just formatted the drive, happened with two HDD's
[01:54] <VlanX> escott: iotop only says jbd2
[01:54] <phunyguy> I have seen ext4 freak out a few times, but a restart fixes it for me.  (It usually hard-freezes my system)
[01:54] <VlanX> w/ ext2 this doesnt happen
[01:54] <phunyguy> jbd2 is journaling IIRC
[01:54] <VlanX> phunyguy:restarted the system, nothing changed
[01:55] <phunyguy> any smart errors, VlanX?
[01:55] <VlanX> phunyguy: i thought of that, but both drives??
[01:56] <VlanX> and if i format them with ext2 this doesnt happen
[01:56] <phunyguy> what ubuntu version, VlanX?
[01:56] <bsmith093> im running ext4 quantal (12.10) with the dir_index option enabled. how many subfolders can one folder hold? within those subfolders is another folder,( generated dynamically by a script im running) that is dumping hundreds of files into it, but the biggest part of this tree, is the one folders with thousands of subfolders in it. so where is the limit of subs? currently im at 7000+ subs
[01:57] <somsip> bsmith093: ISTR you're okay with ext4. It's ext3 that has a 32,000 limit
[01:58] <VlanX> phunyguy: 12.10
[02:00] <al__> Anyone have experience installing HP8600 all in one -- in particular the scanner?
[02:00] <tomreyn> VlanX: do you also see high cpu load on the jbd process?
[02:01] <tomreyn> VlanX: also, is everything up to date, i.e. all kernel (and other) updates installed?
[02:02] <VlanX> tomreyn: i would say 5-15%
[02:02] <VlanX> tomreyn: yep, everything up to date
[02:03] <tomreyn> bsmith093: i think those limits are documented on the ext website. they should be way higher than that. still, so many entries in a single directory will slow things down. if you are able to influence the application doing this (bad programming) then make it use more levels of subdirectories.
[02:05] <tomreyn> VlanX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119742/ext4-jbd2-journaling-active-even-on-empty-filesystem#answers
[02:05] <bsmith093> tomreyn: its all text files anyway, so there just going to be compressed when its done, but thanks
[02:06] <tomreyn> VlanX: it's probably the initial formatting. if this lasts for way longer than it may be wise to disable the "extents" feature, but be sure to read up on possible issues this can introduce.
[02:07] <tomreyn> that's a an ext4 file system feature, so use tune2fs -O ^extents /dev/partitions
[02:08] <PeterFA> I want to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my compute with Windows 7. However, the installer doesn't recognize my Windows partition. It just lists it as free space. How can I get it to recognize this?
[02:08] <PeterFA> Is it a driver issue?
[02:10] <VlanX> tomreyn: thanks for the link, i will read it more carefully tomorrow since now it's already 3am :)
[02:11] <howcode> how do i do multiple commands on the same line?
[02:11] <somsip> howcode: what language? Semicolon usually though...
[02:11] <VlanX> tomreyn: ok, i might want to read with more care what that feature is, thanks again for your help!
[02:12] <tomreyn> VlanX: you're welcome, and good night.
[02:14] <tomreyn> PeterFA: it may be that the windows partition is using some special partitioning / file system options which ubuntu does not yet understand.
[02:14] <entreri> hey there, I need to send files from my android smartphone to ubuntu laptop, it worked out-of-the-box with lubuntu and xubuntu but not with ubuntu... any idea why ? I don't receive pop-up in ubuntu that tells me a device wants to send a file, and it automatically fails to send the file on phone.
[02:14] <tomreyn> PeterFA: is your goal to have them boot side by side?
[02:16] <howcode> my wireless is much slower on ubuntu than on windows, does anyone know why?
[02:17] <tomreyn> howcode: did you spot what somsip responded to your other question?
[02:18] <howcode> tomreyn: yes, and it worked, sorry for not replying
[02:23] <kypor> hello all! Has cifs/samba changed in Ubuntu these days? I cannot seem to automount network shares anymore
[02:25] <entreri> hey there, I need to send files from my android smartphone to ubuntu laptop, it worked out-of-the-box with lubuntu and xubuntu but not with ubuntu... any idea why ? I don't receive pop-up in ubuntu that tells me a device wants to send a file, and it automatically fails to send the file on phone.
[02:26] <entreri> lol forgot to tell that it's bluetooth file transfer
[02:26] <tomreyn> howcode: good to hear this. so about your wireless, maybe you need to try an updated driver. please post the output of this command (copy and paste it to a terminal, including the parantheses): ( lsb_release -d; uname -a; dpkg -l linux-image | grep ^i; sudo lspci -knnv| grep -A10 Network ) | pastebinit
[02:26] <tomreyn> it should return a single internet address
[02:27] <xangua> entreri: are you using the default bluetooth applet¿
[02:28] <entreri> xangua: yes, just like I did use the default one on xubuntu and lubuntu, worked perfectly on them but not on ubuntu
[02:28] <howcode> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606700/
[02:28] <xangua> entreri: the default one never worked for me, i installed blueman and lived happily ever after
[02:29] <xangua> entreri: but i preffer to just conect my phone via usb :P
[02:29] <entreri> xangua: you know the name of the default one and the one used in xubuntu and lubuntu ?
[02:29] <entreri> xangua: because if blueman works for you, I think xu and lubuntu must use it
[02:30] <tomreyn> howcode: sorry, i have to run but this should help others help you. also make sure you install the kernel updates you are missing
[02:30] <tomreyn> you'Re not up to date
[02:31] <howcode> tomreyn: how do i do that, do you know? is it just a command?
[02:31] <MichaelP> Does ubuntu use the mkinitcpio -p command ?
[02:31] <tomreyn> run update-manager
[02:32] <howcode> ok
[02:32] <xangua> entreri: no idea how the default manager is called (it appears as bluetooth-applet in startup apps) but it doesn't even show up even when my dongle is recognized
[02:32] <entreri> xangua: and yeah, it's been so many time I use bluetooth for file transfer, internet tethering and backup that I did not even think at USB wire
[02:33] <entreri> xangua: thanks for your help
[02:34] <dydzEz2_> im installing ubuntu alongside windows 8 and followed post 2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103961
[02:34] <dydzEz2_> he says turn secure boot off, as well as quick boot, but leave UEFI mode on
[02:35] <dydzEz2_> is that how it has to be even after im done installing?
[02:35] <dydzEz2_>  quick boot just skips diagonostics
[02:37] <poopballs> k
[02:41] <trage> Couple questions that I can't seem to find answers to anywhere... I grew up on windows software(no laughing) but been using linux exclusively now for almost 8 months. Having an issue on my Satellite 305D with the screen blanking after about 10 min of no input like its a power save function. I have unchecked "Dim to Save Power" and set "Turn Screen off" to NEVER. Still blanks out and I can't figure out which process is causing it. I have Tweak and Compiz Config
[02:44] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, i am looking to know if their is some package for ubuntu server which allows a constant "remote desktop" like access to files. For example i would like to open a text file on a network computer and be able to just press ctrl+s and save it on the server without going through ftp and having to move it everytime.
[02:47] <iggy19> someone wanna help me with a surely stoopid reason I can't get cp -r to work?
[02:48] <iggy19> "cp -r /dir_one/*.jpg /dir_two/jpgs/" does not seem to recurse
[02:49] <pabst^> Is there a way to tell apt to never install jenkins from the ubuntu repository, no matter what??
[02:49] <iggy19> if a match for *.jpg is in /dir_one it will copy those files, but not anything in a subdirectory, and if *.jpg is only in a subdirectory the command will fail with "file not found"
[02:52] <somsip> !pinning | pabst^
[02:52] <abhatnag> hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu12.04 on a netbook, but once the system boots into ubuntu (usb live install), neither the keyboard or the trackpad work. I have reason to believe they keyboard does not work because the hardware supports multiple langs. Can I get past this somehow?
[02:52] <somsip> pabst^: but if you have a PPA for Jenkins, it won't install the official repo version.
[02:53] <abhatnag> If I can change the locale from the boot options somehow, I would be good, but I don't know how to change the boot options in a USB install
[03:06] <jimaji123> Can someone help me please?
[03:06] <MrPockets> helloh!
[03:06] <xiambax> Wow. I did a bios update on my dell e4200 and I'm shocked with the performance increase i received.
[03:06] <abhatnag> nvm, I was using a unetbootin installer which does not give you those options, but the native ubuntu installer does
[03:06] <MrPockets> I've assigned keyboard shortcuts to VOlume up and VOlume Down
[03:06] <MrPockets> but the incriments are too large. Any idea how to adjust that?
[03:06] <jimaji123> Can someone help me please! im having a bad problem!
[03:07] <jimaji123> Anyone help me?
[03:07] <MrPockets> jimaji123,
[03:07] <MrPockets> whatsyerissue?
[03:07] <ikonia> jimaji123: you need to explain the problem rather than just saying "help"
[03:07] <somsip> !ask | jimaji123
[03:07] <jimaji123> I cant download anything
[03:07] <jimaji123> When i try to download stuff
[03:08] <somsip> MrPockets: how did you assign the shortcut?
[03:08] <MrPockets> you'll have to be more specific than that..
[03:08] <jimaji123> It open archiv
[03:08] <jimaji123> And it says
[03:08] <jimaji123> Wait let me try and dl soemthing.
[03:08] <MrPockets> somsip, in the gui, under like System > Prefs > Shortcut
[03:08] <somsip> MrPockets: there's a standard in there for 'Increase Volume'?
[03:09] <esing> hi
[03:09] <jimaji123> Okay it opens this  Archive Manager.
[03:09] <jimaji123> And it says
[03:09] <MrPockets> somsip, yeah, Sound catagory, 2nd and 2rd options
[03:09] <esing> Ubuntu's newest openjdk 7 package is up9 right?
[03:09] <MrPockets> granted I'm using 10.04 LTS
[03:09] <jimaji123> An error occured while loading this archiv
[03:09] <jimaji123> Can someone help me with that?
[03:09] <ikonia> jimaji123: sounds like an invalid archive
[03:09] <jimaji123> IIt does this it all my downloads.
[03:10] <jimaji123> I just got this today.
[03:10] <somsip> MrPockets: I don't use that gui. Here are a variety of (some very involved) fixes. One might help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/10525/how-can-i-make-the-volume-change-in-smaller-increments
[03:10] <jimaji123> I have been trying to figure this problem out for so long i got a head ace
[03:10] <ikonia> jimaji123: what are you trying to download
[03:10] <ikonia> can you give me an example please.
[03:10] <jimaji123> Im trying to download this game named toribash
[03:10] <ikonia> jimaji123: please give me the URL you are using
[03:11] <jimaji123> Okay.
[03:11] <jimaji123> http://www.toribash.com/
[03:11] <jimaji123> Im download it.
[03:11] <jimaji123> But
[03:11] <somsip> esing: what version of ubuntu?
[03:11] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <jimaji123> Its done now
[03:11] <jimaji123> I open it and it says
[03:11] <Jammin699> http://getpoints.info/ <- My review on the top GPT sites
[03:11] <ikonia> jimaji123: we don't need to see it
[03:11] <ikonia> jimaji123: sorry, not you
[03:11] <esing> somsip, 12.10
[03:12] <ikonia> Jammin699: please don't post that stuff in here
[03:12] <Jammin699> http://p2s.getpoints.info/ <- the #1 GPT site on my review
[03:12] <ikonia> Jammin699: we don't need to see it
[03:12] <jimaji123> It opens the Archive Manager, and it says An error occurred while loading the archiv
[03:12] <ikonia> Jammin699: last warning - stop
[03:12] <jimaji123> how do i fix this!?!?
[03:12] <ikonia> jimaji123: there is no linux version
[03:12] <ikonia> jimaji123: it's only windows/osX
[03:12] <jimaji123> It does this with all my downloads.
[03:12] <somsip> esing: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal-updates/openjdk-7-dbg
[03:12] <ikonia> jimaji123: then give me an example of one please.
[03:12] <Jammin699> ikonia, who are you king irc dick sucker?
[03:13] <jimaji123> i dont know, but can you just help m e?
[03:13] <jimaji123> From this happening?
[03:13] <esing> somsip, thanks
[03:13] <ikonia> jimaji123: give me an EXAMPLE
[03:13] <jimaji123> Because i know some people that have lunix and playing toribash
[03:13] <jimaji123> I have to brb ikonia.
[03:13] <ikonia> what a surprise
[03:13] <ikonia> have to go when asked for an example
[03:14] <esing> somsip, On windows it is important to have always the newest update version of java. Does Ubuntu use backported patches on jdk 7 up9 because I guess the exploits will also harm linux systems
[03:14] <esing> (There is already jdk u14)
[03:15] <somsip> esing: no idea. But do you understand that the exploits are (AFAIK) affecting browser plugins and not desktop applications?
[03:16] <tomreyn> howcode: did you get it sorted? the wireless + kernel update?
[03:17] <esing> somsip, I think the exploits will also work if you run a java file on your desktop
[03:17] <tu_> aaiutoo
[03:17] <tu_> na vita che non uso irc..che faccio?
[03:17] <tu_> ciao, intanto :=
[03:17] <ikonia> !it | tu_
[03:17] <tu_> ;)
[03:17] <esing> (But I agree the main target of java exploits is when browsing)
[03:17] <tu_> w meshuggah
[03:17] <howcode> tomreyn: i did the update, im not sure if it fixed my internet yet, havent had a cut-out yet... but it's still only showing 1/3 bars of connectivity
[03:18] <somsip> esing: this is not what I'
[03:18] <somsip> esing: this is not what I'm reading, so you will need to research more if you want a definitive answer.
[03:19] <meshuggah> hello tu_
[03:21] <esing> somsip, What are you reading?
[03:21] <FergusL> meshuggah < awesome nick :)
[03:21] <FergusL> anybody using synergy here ?
[03:22] <tomreyn> howcode: you'd need to reboot after a kernel update to apply it. other possible reasons to look into: disabling power saving features on the wireless interface, correcting an incorrectly set regulatory domain.
[03:22] <OerHeks> ikonia jimaji123 http://linux.toribash.com/
[03:23] <ikonia> OerHeks: fantastic !
[03:24] <meshuggah> FergusL: thank
[03:24] <howcode> tomreyn, i did an reboot, ill check for the power saving just to be sure.
[03:24] <OerHeks> thanks for asking jimaji123 nice game !
[03:25] <somsip> esing: it's not relevant. If you want a definitive answer to your query, you need to ask someone who knows more about how java updates are released.
[03:27] <jimaji123> Alright im back...Can you help me?
[03:27] <jimaji123> Can someone help me with this Archiv problem?
[03:27] <ikonia> jimaji123:please give an example
[03:28] <jimaji123> the toribash game.
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: asked you 3 times for an example, please give an example
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: you said it happens with others
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: give me a different example
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: there was no linux download on that page, although we have found one later
[03:28] <jimaji123> http://linux.toribash.com/
[03:28] <ikonia> jimaji123: please give me a DIFFERENT example
[03:28] <jimaji123> Okay.
[03:29] <jimaji123> Do you know what steam is?
[03:29] <jimaji123> That has games
[03:29] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'm well aware of steam
[03:29] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'm asking for an example of your failing download please.
[03:30] <jimaji123> Ikonia
[03:30] <jimaji123> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[03:30] <jimaji123> And looks at installation
[03:30] <ikonia> jimaji123: that's not a download
[03:30] <ikonia> jimaji123: PLEASE give me a link to a download that is failing
[03:30] <jimaji123> Okay, but right now im just trying to get toribash but ill find another.
[03:30] <ikonia> jimaji123: no - I want an example that is failing
[03:30] <ikonia> jimaji123: you said everydownload fails
[03:31] <ikonia> this should be easy to give me examples
[03:31] <jimaji123> Yes.
[03:31] <jimaji123> Okay ill gvei you one thats failing.
[03:31] <jimaji123> Hang on
[03:31] <ikonia> great, so give me an example
[03:31] <jimaji123> http://www.extremevelocity3d.com/download.aspx
[03:31] <ikonia> jimaji123: there is no download on that page
[03:32] <jimaji123> http://www.extremevelocity3d.com/download.aspx?CacheBuster=2%2f3%2f2013+9%3a30%3a57+PM&
[03:32] <ikonia> jimaji123: I suspect your problem is you are trying to open files that are not archives
[03:32] <jimaji123> No.
[03:32] <jimaji123> This link, you have to login to download it.
[03:32] <ikonia> jimaji123: so far the files you've looked at are not archives
[03:32] <ikonia> jimaji123: that download link requires me to create an account, it's not going to happen
[03:32] <jimaji123> Ok ill tell you whats going on
[03:32] <jimaji123> When i click on any download
[03:32] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure I can see what's going on
[03:33] <jimaji123> It opens the Archive Manager
[03:33] <jimaji123> Its says Open with
[03:33] <jimaji123> Then it has Archive Manager
[03:33] <ikonia> instead of clicking save to disk, you click open
[03:33] <ikonia> and these files are not archives, so it's failing
[03:33] <jimaji123> I click on Ok
[03:33] <ikonia> why are you trying to open these files with archive manager....they are not archives
[03:33] <ikonia> download them and save them to disk
[03:33] <jimaji123> Ok.
[03:34] <otherenergy> anyone is aware of any other wickness of hotmail and tamper data reset?
[03:34] <jimaji123> Wait.
[03:34] <jimaji123> Ikonia
[03:34] <ikonia> otherenergy: nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:34] <jimaji123> Want me to give you a screen shot on what it says?
[03:34] <ikonia> no
[03:34] <ikonia> I've told you the problem
[03:34] <ikonia> and the solution
[03:34] <ikonia> I don't need a screen shot
[03:34] <jimaji123> Wait
[03:34] <jimaji123> Lets start all the way over.
[03:34] <jimaji123> Okay
[03:34] <ikonia> why ?
[03:34] <jimaji123> Im download this game
[03:34] <jimaji123> From
[03:34] <ikonia> I've told you the problem and the solution
[03:34] <jimaji123> http://www.extremevelocity3d.com/download.aspx?CacheBuster=2%2f3%2f2013+9%3a30%3a57+PM&
[03:34] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <otherenergy> what u mean with?  nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:35] <OerHeks> extremevelocity3d doen't have a linux installer. jimaji123
[03:35] <ikonia> otherenergy: hotmail weaknesses are nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:35] <ikonia> otherenergy: this channel is for ubuntu only
[03:35] <jimaji123> So if its not archive, then i cant have it?
[03:35] <otherenergy> what channel do you recommend?
[03:35] <ikonia> otherenergy: no idea
[03:35] <jimaji123> Ikonia.
[03:36] <jimaji123> Im downloading something and it says
[03:36] <jimaji123> Im using firefox
[03:36] <jimaji123> And it says what should firefox do with this file?
[03:36] <ikonia> jimaji123: I know what is happening
[03:36]  * rootpt is away: bbl
[03:36] <jimaji123> And i has open with Archive Manager
[03:36] <ikonia> jimaji123: I've told you 3 times the problem....and the solution
[03:36] <jimaji123> Okay so what to do.
[03:36] <ikonia> jimaji123: stop doing that
[03:36] <jimaji123> What to click on
[03:36] <ikonia> download it to disk - not open
[03:36] <ikonia> !away > rootpt
[03:36] <jimaji123> It dont say download to disk.
[03:36] <jimaji123> It says save file thoe.
[03:36] <ikonia> come on....
[03:37] <jimaji123> I click on save file
[03:37] <ikonia> save file = download to disk
[03:37] <ikonia> and it downloads it to disk
[03:37] <jimaji123> Now its download
[03:37] <jimaji123> Oh.
[03:37] <ikonia> great, so no problem, your downloads are working
[03:37] <jimaji123> I didn't know wjat save file.
[03:37] <jimaji123> Okay its downloading on the firefox thing
[03:37] <ikonia> as I told you 3 times, you where trying to open non-archive files with archive manager
[03:37]  * IveBeenBit is back (gone 02:19:42)
[03:37] <ikonia> !away > IveBeenBit
[03:38] <jimaji123> Well, how am i suposed to open non-archiv stuff?
[03:38] <ikonia> jimaji123: with the right tool....depending on the file type
[03:38] <jimaji123> And what does wine do?
[03:38] <timgd> I just installed lubuntu and unity booted. I thought lubuntu was supposed to use lxde?
[03:38] <ikonia> jimaji123: trys to run windows programs in linux, not something I suggest you do
[03:38] <jimaji123> Okay now Ikonia its done downloading
[03:39] <jimaji123> Now what to do now.
[03:39] <ikonia> jimaji123: what type of file is it (what's it's extension)
[03:39] <jimaji123> Its Exe.
[03:39] <trage> LOL
[03:39] <jimaji123> Its Setup.exe
[03:39] <ikonia> jimaji123: then you don't use it on linux
[03:39] <ikonia> jimaji123: you use it on windows
[03:39] <jimaji123> I alternate from windows to ubuntu
[03:40] <jimaji123> Sorry, im just new to this
[03:40] <jimaji123> Okay, so how would i install steam then
[03:40] <ikonia> jimaji123: the URL you gave me earlier
[03:40] <jimaji123> yea this one
[03:40] <ikonia> jimaji123: again, not something I'd recommend you do, because it's in beta
[03:40] <jimaji123> http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[03:40] <ikonia> and you don't seem to have much idea what you are doing
[03:40] <jimaji123> Whats in beta
[03:40] <jimaji123> Ubuntu?
[03:41] <ikonia> jimaji123: steam on linux
[03:41] <jimaji123> Oh.
[03:41] <ikonia> jimaji123: there is not a full set of games available, and the process is in beta and depends a lot on your hardware and linux support
[03:41] <ikonia> so it's not something I'd suggest you do
[03:41] <jimaji123> So, that means that most games are for windows than linux...
[03:41] <ikonia> correct
[03:41] <jimaji123> >=I
[03:42] <jimaji123> That means i cant play my games anymore =O
[03:42] <ikonia> use windows
[03:42] <jimaji123> Dang.
[03:42] <jimaji123> So no games are for linux?
[03:43] <timgd> jimaji123: that is false.
[03:43] <ikonia> the majority are written for windows
[03:43] <kunji> jimaji123: There are lots of games for linux
[03:43] <jimaji123> But what about the games i play =/
[03:44] <voodoomurphy> hey folks, I have a technical issue and I've looked everywhere to correct it. 12.10 fresh install (64 bit) on a HP g6 laptop. It will suspend just fine on when it's connected to AC but on battery it just sits on. The screen never dims or anything.
[03:44] <trage> jimaji123: Try googling Playonlinux... that may work for you better. Easy setup of windows games in linux. There is a list of supported games so check out their support docs to see if the one you want to play is there.
[03:44] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[03:44] <ikonia> playonlinux is just a wine wrapper
[03:44] <voodoomurphy> I have the suspend times set for 5 minutes and 30 minutes on AC.
[03:44] <ikonia> and something I'd strongly suggest you keep away from
[03:45] <kunji> jimaji123: A lot of them will work through particular versions of WINE, some have linux versions, it's not typically easy to get them running smoothly though, which is why ikonia is not recommending it.  Also running WINE would allow windows code including viruses to execute on your system.
[03:45] <jimaji123> Save file? Or open with this archiv thing
[03:45] <ikonia> jimaji123: what ?
[03:45] <GreaseMonkey> hey, i'm trying to install lubuntu 12.10 on an old laptop. i'm stuck at the "loading bootlogo" thing. the md5sum of the .iso download *IS* correct. what should i do?
[03:45] <jimaji123> ...
[03:45] <ikonia> jimaji123: what are you downloading ?
[03:45] <jimaji123> Im downloading Playonlinux
[03:45] <jimaji123> And its asking
[03:45] <jimaji123> Open with
[03:45] <ikonia> then I'nm not helping
[03:45] <jimaji123> Or save file
[03:45] <ikonia> it is a BAD idea
[03:45] <FloodBot1> jimaji123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <GreaseMonkey> save file
[03:46] <ikonia> if you wnat to play windows games - use windows
[03:46] <trage> LOL.. oh jeez. Sorry. My bad.
[03:46] <GreaseMonkey> i can help
[03:46] <jimaji123> So, ikonia usually it would say either download for windows linux or mac?
[03:47] <ikonia> jimaji123: sorry - I'm helping with this
[03:47] <jimaji123> And what is PlayOnLinux anywase? It has games?
[03:47] <GreaseMonkey> i suggest you just go with wine
[03:47] <ikonia> no,
[03:47] <ikonia> it does not have games
[03:47] <ikonia> I suggest you use windows to play windows games
[03:47] <ikonia> as you will not progress with any other method
[03:47] <kunji> jimaji123: I would not recommend that until you have a better idea of how your system works, but well, suit yourself.  PlayOnLinux is a wrapper that attempts to make WINE easier.
[03:47] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <jimaji123> And i have another problem ikonia.
[03:47] <jimaji123> what is wine?
[03:47] <GreaseMonkey> it's an emulator to run windows programs
[03:47] <GreaseMonkey> Your Mileage May Vary
[03:48] <jimaji123> How do i install wine?
[03:48] <OerHeks> !wine
[03:48] <ikonia> jimaji123: it's something I'd strongly recommend you do not do
[03:48] <jimaji123> Why?
[03:49] <jimaji123> I just wanna play games =/ im starting to fell that all my windows games are not for linux.
[03:49] <ikonia> jimaji123: because a.) it is not a platform to depend on b.) you are not capable of maintaining it at your currentl level
[03:49] <jimaji123> I just want to get games =/
[03:49] <ikonia> jimaji123: then use windows
[03:49] <GreaseMonkey> jimaji123: may i recommend rocksndiamonds
[03:49] <jimaji123> But im going to download steam
[03:49] <kunji> jimaji123: Because you clearly don't know what you're doing yet and WINE is a whole nother can of worms, it would be a miracle for you to get it working, most likely you'll waste a lot of time, make your system less secure, and maybe even make your system stop working
[03:50] <cfhowlett> jimaji123, advise your game publishers of your interest or explore linux games.  or why not both!  Wine is no guarantee.
[03:50] <GreaseMonkey> if all you want to do is game, you're going to have to give up a few specifics
[03:50] <jimaji123> Okay, so how do i install steam since im on linux?
[03:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: check if the games you want are on steam for linux first
[03:50] <GreaseMonkey> you would need to either A: install wine, which is not recommended for you at your level,
[03:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: also the steam platform is in beta
[03:50] <GreaseMonkey> or B: wait for the linux version of steam to come out properly
[03:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: and will depend on your hardwares support if it works
[03:50] <ikonia> jimaji123: as I told you earlier
[03:50] <kunji> jimaji123: I actually haven't installed steam on linux, I've been thinking about it though, since CS 1.6 joined the Beta lineup
[03:51] <GreaseMonkey> what sorts of games do you prefer btw
[03:51] <jimaji123> I like toribash and steam
[03:51] <ikonia> steam is not a game
[03:51] <jimaji123> I usually play steam most of the time.
[03:51] <jimaji123> I kniw.
[03:51] <ikonia> steam only has a few games available on linux
[03:51] <jimaji123> Its what i get games on
[03:51] <ikonia> so again - check if the game you want is on steam for linux
[03:51] <dydzEz2_> i hate how the ubuntu drive shows up on my computer in windows 8 and if i click it, it automatically asks for a format
[03:51] <jimaji123> I usually play tf2 on steam
[03:51] <dydzEz2_> cant find a way to hide it
[03:51] <ikonia> jimaji123: I'm sorry - you need to start listening to what's being said to you
[03:51] <kunji> GreaseMonkey: Do you still need WINE for it?  I thought you didn't anymore.
[03:52] <jimaji123> 'Ikonia i know.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> dydzEz2_, sounds like a windows 8 issue and not an ubuntu issue ...
[03:52] <jimaji123> You said that i need to see if the games support the games.
[03:52] <dydzEz2_> sorry just asking, was thinking a lot of people did dual boot with their new w8 laptop or something and had an idea in here too
[03:53] <cfhowlett> dydzEz2_, ##windows might know
[03:53] <kunji> jimaji123: If the platforms support the games, that is if each individual game has or has not been ported, TF2 I believe does have a port
[03:53] <phunyguy> If I uninstall a unity-webapp, how do I get the entry removed from the indicator-applet?
[03:53] <jimaji123> Kunji, you play steam?
[03:53] <phunyguy> even a restart didnt remove it.
[03:53] <kunji> dydzEz2_: I dual boot 8, but mine don't show up.
[03:53] <ikonia> jimaji123: steam is not a game !
[03:53] <jimaji123> Ikonia i know.
[03:53] <ikonia> jimaji123: so how would someone "play steam"
[03:53] <GreaseMonkey> jimaji123: may i suggest sume other games, because right now you're not going to be playing TF2.
[03:53] <jimaji123> I metn to ask him does he "have" steam
[03:54] <dydzEz2_> kunji did you dual boot in UEFI mode?
[03:54] <jimaji123> So linux dont work for tf2?
[03:54] <GreaseMonkey> assaultcube is a personal favourite of mine
[03:54] <kunji> jimaji123: Nope, but I play the independent versions of some older steam games, so I may take up Steam with it coming to Linux
[03:54] <ikonia> jimaji123: do you have windows on your machine ?
[03:54] <GreaseMonkey> as far as you're concerned, TF2 will not work on linux
[03:54] <jimaji123> Yes i do
[03:54] <jimaji123> I have win 7 and ubuntu
[03:54] <l057c0d3r> wait what tf2 sais there is a linux version on steam's website
[03:54] <ikonia> jimaji123: right - so to play windows games.....why will you not use windows ?
[03:54] <kunji> dydzEz2_: Nope, I stuck with regular MBR for now
[03:54] <GreaseMonkey> then if you really, really want to play tf2 then go on windows
[03:54] <ikonia> jimaji123: the games where designed for windows.....
[03:54] <jimaji123> Yes, i would
[03:55] <jimaji123> I know.
[03:55] <gabessdsp_> Trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my computer, but everytime I try to boot from the disk I get this error: "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" anybody able to help?
[03:55] <dydzEz2_> Oh alright, gotcha kunji -- one more question -- did you have to use boot repair in ubuntu?
[03:55] <kunji> jimaji123: It should work for TF2
[03:55] <ikonia> jimaji123: right ? so why is this conversation happening, you want to play windows games, use windows, you have windows, job done
[03:55] <trage> You have to diable secure boot in the "bios" in order to dual boot (or boot anything before Win8) until they finish the UEFI support for Linux that is now under dev.
[03:55] <GreaseMonkey> gabessdsp_: check your boot order or something
[03:55] <l057c0d3r> and i've got it working in wine before as well.. along with skyrim
[03:55] <jimaji123> Kunji, tf2 will work for linux?
[03:55] <GreaseMonkey> oh that too
[03:55] <gabessdsp_> secure boot? I'll look for it
[03:55] <jimaji123> But i want to play some games on lunix.
[03:55] <GreaseMonkey> yeah turn secure boot off, that thing is cancer
[03:56] <jimaji123> I will have to see some of them old games i used to play.
[03:56] <jimaji123> They were for lunix.
[03:56] <GreaseMonkey> rocksndiamonds perhaps?
[03:56] <kunji> dydzEz2_: I did not need to, but also I know how to troubleshoot my boot manually most of the time, so I've actually never used the boot-repair.
[03:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: why ? you don't have experience at this time, you struggle to listen to instructions,
[03:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: if you actually want to play the game, windows is the platform you need
[03:56] <l057c0d3r> ryzome and realms online are good mmo's with native linux clients
[03:56] <gabessdsp_> any idea where it would be located? I'm looking in the boot bios menu and don't see anything called secure boot
[03:56] <jimaji123> Ikonia, im only 13
[03:56] <jimaji123> Give me a break.
[03:56] <ikonia> jimaji123: so ?
[03:56] <trage> gabessdsp_: So you burned an ISO of Ubuntu to a CD or DVD disc?
[03:56] <ikonia> I do'nt see how age is a factor
[03:56] <jimaji123> Knoledge is.
[03:56] <ikonia> you want to play windows games, you have windows, job done
[03:56] <gabessdsp_> it's 20MB too large for a CD-R so I buirned it to a DVD-R
[03:57] <dydzEz2_> thanks for the answers kunji
[03:57] <cfhowlett> jimaji123, time to get yourself educated maybe?
[03:57] <gabessdsp_> *burned
[03:57] <kunji> jimaji123: I said it twice already, it does work for linux.
[03:57] <jimaji123> Lol.
[03:57] <Korny2> Most 13 years olds have more knowledge the 30 year olds L:/
[03:57] <jimaji123> Okay i will be installing tf2 right now.
[03:57] <jimaji123> Kunji, but how?
[03:57] <jimaji123> Look at this link
[03:57] <jimaji123> http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/?snr=1_7_suggest__13
[03:57] <grahamcracker> steam linux awesome
[03:57] <trage> And the computer you are trying to boot to has a DVD player right?
[03:57] <cfhowlett> !who
[03:57] <gabessdsp_> yes
[03:58] <Korny2> People still use optical media?
[03:58] <gabessdsp_> fairly certain
[03:58] <jimaji123> Kunji that link does not have anything that says "linux"
[03:58] <kunji> jimaji123: You would need to use the linux binary from Steam, I know it is possible because many people have done it, I'm not one of them though, so unfortunately my usefulness ends here.  I might look it up, but you can look it up as easily as I can.
[03:58] <trage> gabessdsp_: When booting are you selecting your boot device manually or do you have a priority list set in the bios?
[03:58] <jimaji123> How do i use linux binary?
[03:58] <gabessdsp_> but let's say the problem is that it can;t read DVD's and I need a CD. How can I get a version of UBUNTU 12.10 that fits on a CD-R?
[03:58] <gabessdsp_> I have the priority list set in bios
[03:59] <trage> gabessdsp_:Make sure. You can't play a DVD in a CD Player. Make sure it says DVD on it.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !mini|gabessdsp_,
[03:59] <kunji> jimaji123: Some people have said they only see the link in Steam for the linux Beta if they own the game for another platform already.  But I don't even use Steam, so I'm not really the person to ask
[03:59] <gabessdsp_> it's called cdrom on the front....the other is called DVD/CD Writer
[03:59] <jimaji123> Okay.
[03:59] <gabessdsp_> there is 2
[03:59] <jimaji123> Well im just downloading steam right now
[04:00] <bulletrulz> ravens WON!
[04:00] <jimaji123> YEAHHH!
[04:00] <kunji> jimaji123: This might be helpful: http://steamcommunity.com/linux
[04:00] <jimaji123> Kunji
[04:00] <trage> gabe
[04:00] <jimaji123> I am having a problem now.
[04:00] <Dorito> o_o
[04:00] <gabessdsp_> yes trage?
[04:00] <Dorito> /w/w 2
[04:00] <Dorito> oops.
[04:00] <cfhowlett> jimaji123, pre-emptive reminder: steam in in beta, i.e. still in development and should NOT be expected to work out of the box.
[04:00] <jimaji123> I installed steam. and now it opened ubuntu software center.
[04:00] <jimaji123> And it says
[04:00] <trage> gabessdsp_: You are trying to boot with the DVD in the DVD writer drive and that is at the top of your priority list in bios right?
[04:00] <Guest65873> I need help
[04:01] <jimaji123> It says Wrong architecture'i386'
[04:01] <cfhowlett> !details|Guest65873,
[04:01] <gabessdsp_> well I have it in the cd-rom drive ebcause I don't know if the dvd/cd writer can read discs. I thought that's why it's a writer
[04:01] <xangua> gabessdsp_: a writter does both...
[04:01] <trage> gabessdsp_: Try putting it in the DVD writer drive. Think that will work out better for you.
[04:02] <gabessdsp_> oh...I feel stupid....I'll try that then. I'll be back to report...
[04:02] <trage> gabessdsp_: Goodluck and have fun.
[04:02] <kunji> jimaji123: You need the 64 bit version of Steam
[04:02] <jimaji123> Kunji, then were do i get it?
[04:02] <Guest65873> I am running ubuntu one and I cant login to the internet what i want to do is reinstall it dont have a cd or anything
[04:03] <Guest65873> reformat is what i want to do
[04:03] <kunji> jimaji123: I don't know have you tried googling yet?  We've covered that I know as little about steam as you do, so any help I'm giving is me googling and just passing on what I find to you, you could google yourself first and ask when you get stuck
[04:03] <jimaji123> Omfg, linux is hard for downloading games.
[04:03] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, download the iso.  Make a bootable cd or usb  re-install
[04:03] <grahamcracker> Why do I have to buy some apps for $0.00 ???
[04:03]  * cfhowlett annnnnnnnd it begins ...
[04:03] <ikonia> jimaji123: how many times have I said to you "use windows"
[04:04] <Guest65873> how do i do that
[04:04] <jimaji123> I know, but i just wanna try a steam game on linux.
[04:04] <ikonia> jimaji123: but you are not trying
[04:04] <ikonia> jimaji123: you are just asking "what next, what now, what next, how"
[04:04]  * Korny2 is amazed how patient the helps in here are, I think 90% of the users askign questions are trolling, the questions are just odd
[04:04] <ikonia> you've not done/read anything - enough now
[04:04] <kunji> jimaji123:... you trolling?  Have you tried running commodore64 games on windows yet?  Conveniently there's emulators, but no kidding it's not something you should expect to work at all
[04:04] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, you're on the internet now, right?  get the ubuntu download page, recommend you download via torrents
[04:04] <grahamcracker> jimaji123: what are you trying to do?
[04:04] <howcode> is there a cli web browser in ubuntu?
[04:05] <ikonia> howcode: lynx
[04:05] <jimaji123> im trying to install steam first of all.
[04:05] <jimaji123> 64 bit
[04:05] <gabessdsp_> alright I put it into the DVD drive. So now I'm in my BIOS trying to make it boot from the DVD drive first. But I don't see any option anywhere that says "DVD" anything
[04:05] <jimaji123> Im trying to install steam first of all Kunji
[04:05] <jimaji123> I clicked on the about tab on steam
[04:05] <GreaseMonkey> gabessdsp_: what are the options
[04:05] <jimaji123> And it says steam has linux in beta and all that
[04:05] <GreaseMonkey> howcode: there's lynx and w3m i believe
[04:05] <gabessdsp_> THe options are:
[04:05] <gabessdsp_> woops
[04:05] <gabessdsp_> one sec
[04:05] <grahamcracker> jimaji123: just goto steam's website and download the .deb then open the deb and itll open the software center then click install
[04:05] <xangua> howcode: lynxs, elinks, something like that...wikipedia helps :)
[04:06] <jimaji123> Were is the .deb?
[04:06] <GreaseMonkey> howcode: i don't know if there are any that do javascript, i THINK elinks might
[04:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: come on,
[04:06] <grahamcracker> jimaji123: hold on
[04:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: if you can't even find the download, you have no chance of actually using this software
[04:06] <howcode> greasemonkey, thats ok i was only looking for one for browsing the c++ reference websites
[04:06] <jimaji123> its easy on windows
[04:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: please start actually doing something for yourself rather than just "how, how how how how how" all the time
[04:06] <gabessdsp_> The options are: Floppy, LS120, Hard Disk, CDROM, ZIP100, USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, and LAN
[04:06] <ikonia> jimaji123: then use windows -
[04:06] <cfhowlett> jimaji123, then use windows
[04:06] <jimaji123> i have to go
[04:06] <Guest65873> i am atr the download page but their is nothing their
[04:07] <grahamcracker> oy
[04:07] <grahamcracker> okay
[04:07] <grahamcracker> can i ask a question now lol
[04:07] <GreaseMonkey> gabessdsp_: try CDROM
[04:07] <trage> gabessdsp_: My money is on LS120 but that even seems odd. Have you tried using this drive to read/write lately?
[04:07] <kunji> jimaji123: No kidding it's easy on windows, it was designed for windows from the ground up.. anyway, have you read this yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[04:07] <GreaseMonkey> trage: an LS120 is a special 120MB floppy disk
[04:07] <GreaseMonkey> it's definitely not that.
[04:07] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[04:07] <GreaseMonkey> my money's on CDROM
[04:07] <trage> gabessdsp_: Just wondering if it is hooked up to the motherboard.
[04:08] <trage> DVD writers usually have *DVD* in the name somewhere.
[04:08] <grahamcracker> just wondering, why do I have to pay $0.00 for some apps on Ubuntu Software Center?  Is it a glitch?
[04:08] <gabessdsp_> that's what I had before but that points to the CDROm drive which I now have unplugged. But anyway...I will try the LS120. And no I recently collected this computer from a friend as a donation towards and experimental render farm project
[04:08] <GreaseMonkey> gabessdsp_: it is NOT the LS120
[04:08] <cfhowlett> grahamcracker, not a glitch
[04:09] <trage> gabessdsp_: Do you have the data cable plugged into the mobo? If so is it a ribbon or sata plug?
[04:09] <Guest65873> nothing is happen when i try to open
[04:09] <gabessdsp_> It's all ribbon/IDE
[04:09] <gabessdsp_> no SATA
[04:09] <gabessdsp_> it's old from 2002
[04:09] <gabessdsp_> HP Pavilion 700
[04:09] <grahamcracker> cfhowlett so i have to put all my credit card info to be able to download?
[04:09] <trage> gabessdsp_: do you have a dedicated ribbon for the dvd drive?
[04:09] <tonsofpcs> LS120? hmmm
[04:10] <gabessdsp_> Yes there is a ribbon for the dvd drive, and a separate one ofr the hDD
[04:10] <gabessdsp_> *for
[04:10] <cfhowlett> grahamcracker, I don't think so since $0 cost, but I've never bought anything through USC.  Try and checkout and see if the Pay Now option demands your info ...
[04:10] <tonsofpcs> gabessdsp_: does the BIOS detect the DVD drive as a CD drive?
[04:10] <trage> gabessdsp_: Right, but what I'm asking is > Is it the same ribbon used for the DVD drive used also on the CD drive... if so you have to set the jumpers correctly for the mobo to see it.
[04:11] <trage> gabessdsp_: or just connect JUST the DVD drive to the mobo.
[04:11] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, download save the torrent.  open transmission (torrent manager) and add the torrent.  Start download.  go have a coffee .
[04:11] <gabessdsp_> originally there was a robbon for the CDROm, and DVD Writer, and another for the FLOPPY and HDD, but I disconnected the FLOPPY, and also disconnected the CDROm now
[04:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I have just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop. When even no program is running the laptop is very hot and the fan is working loudly. Is it common? Should I do something?
[04:11] <thomedy> please please please help
[04:11] <trage> gabessdsp_: I would make sure the jumpers are set correctly anyways. If its on its own ribbon by itself you can set it to Master or CS (cable Select).
[04:12] <mojtaba> Any suggestion is highly appreciated.
[04:12] <mojtaba> Any idea?
[04:12] <trage> mojtaba: Check for proprietary video drivers.
[04:12] <cfhowlett> !details|thomedy,
[04:12] <thomedy> i have a  a lamp install and i idid it at xampp for linux... and when i started it i found that i had a webserver running already so istopped that an dhtne it said ihad a webserver with ssl running already so i followed the steps at the ubuntu website and now ican start it
[04:13] <thomedy> but i cant get localhost/xampp
[04:13] <JokesOnYou77> hi all, can anyone recommend a good XFCE theme for a Large screen like a TV?  Something with large text and icons?
[04:13] <mojtaba> trage: From where should I check that?
[04:13] <gabessdsp_> there is a part that says master on the ribbon and a part that says slave. I have the master part plugged into the drive. What's this about jumpers though?
[04:13] <thomedy> sorry that was a lot to type
[04:13] <cfhowlett> thomedy, this might be worth submitting on #ubuntu=server
[04:13] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server
[04:13] <thomedy> ? is that a room
[04:13] <cfhowlett> thomedy, yes
[04:13] <thomedy> okay thanaks
[04:14] <gabessdsp_> so what about jumpers? Not sure if you saw my last message or not
[04:14] <Guest65873> not working
[04:14] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, details help ...
[04:15] <mojtaba> How can I check for the proprietary video driver?
[04:15] <Guest65873> so how all my browers are gone for some reason i was able to login to this chat
[04:15] <gabessdsp_> traje?
[04:16] <gabessdsp_> I mena trage
[04:16] <Guest65873> this is the only internet brower i have
[04:16] <gabessdsp_> *ment
[04:16] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, you've got weird stuff happening then.  Did you download the torrent seed?
[04:16] <gabessdsp_> ugh cannot type today
[04:16] <trage> mojtaba: Software Sources in the dash... then click Additional Drivers tab.
[04:16] <MoPac> Anybody here have advanced experience with Ubuntu LUKS and/or Linux-ified Truecrypt? Want dual boot with shared files. Wondering about mounting LUKS system volume with FOTFE in Win or mounting Truecrypt Win system volume from within Ubuntu
[04:16] <thomedy> i just want to start fresh but i read so many tutorials i dont even know what was right or wrong or what on e i was doing at the time to get this error
[04:16] <gmachine_24> I have a back up file, call it backup.tar.gz; how do I untar that to a drive that has been formatted and mount at /mount/tarhere
[04:17] <jessemuffin> Hi everyone! New Ubuntu user here.
[04:17] <Guest65873> i cant do it and dont know where it would be for me to do this
[04:17] <gmachine_24> *and mounted
[04:17] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, greetings
[04:17] <gmachine_24> jessemuffin, what's up?
[04:17] <jessemuffin> used to run Ubuntu on my old solid state EEE pc
[04:17] <trage> gabessdsp_: Look at the back of the DVD drive next to where you plugin the ribbon. There should be 4-5 pairs of pins that can be jumped.  It's kind compact so I have to take the drive out to actually do anything to it
[04:18] <gabessdsp_> but it's on some pins
[04:19] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, netbook edition no doubt
[04:19] <jessemuffin> Think so
[04:19] <guideX> how do I add a deb repository to my ubuntu
[04:19] <mojtaba> trage: There is just one and it is for my wireless
[04:19] <cfhowlett> !repo|guideX,
[04:19] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, so what's the issue today?
[04:20] <guideX> but what's the command
[04:20] <trage> gabessdsp_: You have to take the drive out to identify WHAT setting the drive is on. It is usually easily identified by initials under the pins or a pin diagram on the manufacturers product label. I would set to CS or cable select.
[04:20] <jessemuffin> Hmm, wanted to see if anyone has gotten the game "League of Legends" to work on ubuntu
[04:20] <guideX> these docs give me a lot to read, but no actual command
[04:20] <gabessdsp_> trage: doing that now...one sec
[04:20] <cfhowlett> guideX, this is to add a PPA is it?
[04:21] <guideX> ug i'm just trying to download something
[04:21] <guideX> how do you do it
[04:21] <cfhowlett> guideX, sudo apt-get install foo.deb
[04:21] <Guest65873> so you cant help me
[04:21] <trage> mojtaba: Then my friend, you have the same problem I have. You probably have an ATI mobile chipset running with a AMD processor. They do get warm and the getting legacy drivers to work on them is like pulling teeth in the dark on a balance beam hovering over a bed of sharp spikes.
[04:22] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: any problem can be solved with enough patience. hang in there
[04:22] <mojtaba> trage: I hvae ATI mobile chipset with the Intel processor. :(
[04:22] <guideX> hmm I have a file like this... zend.deb.repo
[04:22] <guideX> and inside it has "deb <url> parameter"
[04:22] <grahamcracker> cfhowlett it never asked for payment, all is well
[04:23] <mojtaba> trage: Isn't there anyway to fix it?
[04:23] <cfhowlett> grahamcracker, good to know.  Have fun, be safe
[04:24] <trage> mojtaba: Well than you are better off than me. I would reccommend making sure you have the latest bios updates for your box. Aside from custom building a driver for your chipset or trying to get an unsupported one to work would be a shot in the dark.
[04:24] <guideX> when I do sudo apt-get install zend.deb.repo I get "cannot find any package by regex" or somehting
[04:24] <cfhowlett> guideX, .deb is a deb package.  .repo is something else.
[04:24] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: do you have access to the synaptic package manager?
[04:25] <guideX> oh
[04:25] <cfhowlett> guideX, does the download site provide install guidance?
[04:25] <MoPac> Anybody here dual-boot with Windows and have full-disk encryption (or know about such things)?
[04:25] <Guest65873> not sure
[04:25] <guideX> yeah the file says to type 'install_sz.sh
[04:25] <guideX> but when I do it says command not found
[04:25] <jessemuffin> I dual-boot with windows but i used some program called WUBI to do it. Probably bad on my part
[04:26] <guideX> then I found all these repositories, I guess for different types of linux
[04:26] <guideX> it's the zend framework..
[04:26] <gabessdsp_> alright trage: I finally pulled out the drive. THe jumper is already set to something called CSEL, but ther is another option for MASTER or SLAVE
[04:26] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: tell us your situation.  do you have ubuntu booted now? what are you seeing on your screen?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, wubi is a testing environment for ubuntu and should not be considered a long-term installation method.
[04:26] <gmachine_24> I have a system back up file, call it backup.tar.gz; how do I untar that to a drive that has been formatted and mounted at /mount/tarhere. I want to extract the tarred files and copy them to /mount/here (which is a hard drive partition /dev/sdc1) so I can boot the system from /dev/sdc1 the next time? (I am going to remove the current drive where Ubuntu is installed). Thanks.
[04:26] <Guest65873> yes it is booted now
[04:27] <pepee> anyone using fglrx from xorg-edgers ppa?
[04:27] <jessemuffin> Okay i'll keep that in mind
[04:27] <trage> gabessdsp_: CSEL is fine. examine the pins on both the mobo and the drive to make sure there aren't any bent or broken pins.
[04:27] <jessemuffin> Would it run faster if i did it properly?
[04:27] <Guest65873> but no acess to the browers
[04:27] <kunji> jessemuffing: WUBI isn't bad, it won't be as efficient though as a full normal install.  It mounts the system as a loopback device I think, if you google it it's not too hard to find the details of how it works.
[04:28] <kunji> *muffin
[04:28] <Guest65873> where would i find the synaptic package
[04:28] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, properly meaning a regular dual boot?  probably.  You could also install virtualbox and test things in that.
[04:28] <gabessdsp_> tage: alright. Nothing is bent or broken. But f I'm supposed to be using CSEL then what's next in this error?
[04:28] <kunji> jessemuffin: I would expect it to be a bit faster, but not a lot in most cases
[04:28] <trage> gabessdsp_: Is there a jumper connecting the 2 pins for CSEL?
[04:29] <jessemuffin> Alright, i just wanted something to get away with windows, a new perspective
[04:29] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873:  can you click on the button on your task bar that says "Dash Home"?
[04:29] <gabessdsp_> trage: yes a little white jumper connecting both pins
[04:30] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, install virtualbox in windows.  install as many different ubuntus as you like in virtualbox.  When you find a flavor you prefer, install a dualboot
[04:30] <Guest65873> no
[04:30] <trage> gabessdsp_: Some newer drives required a special ribbon cable. These special cables have at least one blue plug. Do you have one of those cables?
[04:30] <jessemuffin> Well I've used Virtualbox before :-) I like Ubuntu. I guess I should properly install a dual boot Ubuntu instead of using Wubi.
[04:30] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, that is not normal functioning and leads me to suspect your boot iso is malformed.
[04:30] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: then on your keyboard press Control Alt and the T button
[04:31] <JokesOnYou77> Can anyone recommend a good XFCE theme/tweak for a Large screen, like running an HTPC? Something with large text and big icons?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> jessemuffin, not hard to do.
[04:31] <jessemuffin> I have a 4g memory card, could i use that?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, aren't there such in the Accessibility menu?
[04:31] <gabessdsp_> trage: ummmm this is all old back from 2002. But the plugs are black and grey
[04:32] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: when you do Ctrl Alt T does your terminal pop up?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, nvrmnd, I just looked.  Not there.
[04:32] <Guest65873> yes
[04:32] <Guest65873> gotit
[04:32] <Guest65873> purple screen
[04:32] <JokesOnYou77> cfhowlett, yeah.  And I',, looking for something preferably designed with an HTPC in mind
[04:33] <anonymousraptr> in the terminal type "synaptic-pkexec"
[04:33] <Queen`Bee> JokesOnYou77,  have you tried xbmc?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, +1 xbmc
[04:34] <Korny2> xbmc if its just for media....
[04:34] <Korny2> mythtv for dvr + media!
[04:34] <Queen`Bee> i thought myth was out of dev
[04:34] <trage> gabessdsp_: Well here is where we are at. Your mobo doesn't seem to be seeing the drive. The only three possibilities I see is left is 1) The IDE port is disabled in the bios... unlikely but possible. 2) Your drive doesn't like your cable... try taking the ribbon cable from the hdd and hooking it up to the DVD. or lastly 3) The drive is dead and won't work no matter what.
[04:34] <Guest65873> now what do i do
[04:34] <JokesOnYou77> Queen`Bee, I love XBMC and I use it regularly.  But I'm looking for something that will theme XFCE for example so that I can use it to easily navigate when I'm not actually using XBMC
[04:34] <Korny2> Not at all Queen`Bee  where did you hear that?
[04:35] <Queen`Bee> ubuntutv site several months back
[04:35] <jessemuffin> What's the best way to install Ubuntu on my windows 7 pc as a dual boot
[04:35] <gabessdsp_> trage: hmmm, alright. Well I'll go through all of those, I'll also try the drive (now that it's out) on my main computer. THank you so much for your help!
[04:35] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, www.xfce-look.org
[04:35] <phunyguy> Mythbuntu is out of dev maybe
[04:35] <JokesOnYou77> XBMC doesn't have a built in browser and no Netfilx support in Linux, So I need somethign that will let me see some text from across the room while I'm using the browser
[04:35] <Korny2> nope
[04:35] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: in the search area at the top type in Firefox
[04:35] <trage> gabessdsp_: No prob. Good luck.
[04:35] <Korny2> Mythbuntun repo is plenty active
[04:35] <gabessdsp_> trage: Thanks!
[04:35] <Korny2> I get updates every couple of days
[04:35] <Queen`Bee> your right, i was thinking of mythbuntu
[04:36] <phunyguy> Korny2, mythbuntu uses ubuntu repos
[04:36] <phunyguy> so of course you get updates
[04:36] <JokesOnYou77> I'm actually asking about XFCE themes because I'm using MythTV and it runs XFCE I just can't read the text with the default theme
[04:36] <Guest65873> it is saying not compatable
[04:36] <Korny2> mythbuntu has its own repo for fixes
[04:36] <JokesOnYou77> Sorry, not MythTV, Mythbuntu
[04:37] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, last link I sent has all kinds of xfce eye candy
[04:37] <Korny2> its the reverese ubuntu uses mythbuntu repos :P
[04:37] <phunyguy> *sigh*
[04:37] <phunyguy> well mythbuntu didn't come out with a 12.10 version.
[04:37] <Korny2> Last I reado n mythbuntu is they were going to be not releaseing non LTS builds
[04:37] <JokesOnYou77> cfhowlett, yeah, I was browsing there for about 20 minutes before I came to ask for suggestions.
[04:37] <Korny2> sigh I can't type today
[04:38] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: it seems like you have some serious issues. you will likely need to boot using LiveCD or LiveUSB.
[04:38] <jessemuffin> What's the best way to install Ubuntu on my windows 7 pc as a dual boot
[04:38] <phunyguy> ahh, ok, well I don't know, just playing devil's advocate
[04:38] <Korny2> They are only releases on LTS because mythtv is more of an appliance
[04:38] <cfhowlett> JokesOnYou77, full circle then ... but that probably is the best lresourcee for eyecandy
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|jessemuffin,
[04:38] <JokesOnYou77> phunyguy, Actually I'm running a Mythbuntu 12.04.1 LiveCD right now
[04:38] <jessemuffin> TYY
[04:38] <Korny2> I'll be honest though  I haven't been to the mythbuntu page in a few months so my info may be incorrect
[04:38] <trage> Guest65873: Are you installing from the 32bit or 64bit Live Cd?
[04:38] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: it would be best if i turned your problem over to one of the expert level guys here. i can only help with pretty basic stuff
[04:42] <mojtaba> hi
[04:42] <phunyguy> ho mojtaba
[04:42] <phunyguy> hi**
[04:42] <mojtaba> How can I custom build a driver?
[04:42] <Guest65873> well for some reason i got google open dont know how but it is their and now it is asking for me to download a flash player dont know what to do now
[04:42] <mojtaba> phunyguy: hi
[04:42] <phunyguy> mojtaba, as in compile one from source?
[04:42] <phunyguy> or write one?
[04:42] <mojtaba> I have ATI mobile chipset with intel processor
[04:43] <mojtaba> my laptop is very hot, even when no program is running
[04:43] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I have installed ubuntu recently on it.
[04:43] <Guest65873> which one do i select
[04:43] <phunyguy> mojtaba, do you want to write a driver, or build one from source?
[04:44] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I guess build from source.
[04:44] <phunyguy> well ATI is closed source, mojtaba so you are probably using the open source community driver
[04:44] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I just want to solve my current problem actually
[04:44] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I am not sure, but maybe.
[04:44] <mojtaba> actually I have switched to linux recently
[04:44] <phunyguy> either way, what version of Ubuntu?
[04:45] <trage> Guest65873: Depends on what version Win your computer came with. If youc can still boot into your Win7 Install, right click on My Computer and select Properties from the flyy out menu. The window that opens from there will tell you Something like Windows 7 Home Prem 64.
[04:45] <mojtaba> phunyguy: 12.10
[04:45] <phunyguy> did you get a message saying restricted drivers were available?
[04:45] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: it is hard to figure out where you are. if you can't find the Dash Home button which is ubuntu's most regularly used button, then you have bigger problems then installing flash
[04:45] <Guest65873> ok now which one do i pick
[04:45] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I have installed restricted drivers
[04:45] <trage> Guest65873: If you don't see a 64bit anywhere, then you need the 32bit version.
[04:46] <Guest65873> let me see
[04:46] <phunyguy> mojtaba, so it just runs hot? no actual issues?
[04:46] <phunyguy> are you sure it is due to graphics?
[04:46] <trage> Whoops.. wrong guest. Damn tabbed autocomplete
[04:46] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I am not sure, but it is very hot and the fan is always working.
[04:47] <phunyguy> mojtaba, you may have an issue with processor stepping
[04:47] <mojtaba> phunyguy: someone in this chatroom told me, may be it is because of the graphic card
[04:47] <Guest65873> i see alot but dont know which one to pick
[04:47] <phunyguy> err throttling
[04:47] <mojtaba> phunyguy: would please let me know what should I do?
[04:47] <mojtaba> phunyguy: because I am pretty new to linux era.
[04:47] <Guest65873> i am at the parent dir
[04:47] <mojtaba> :D
[04:47] <phunyguy> I would bet that with the restricted drivers, that your issue isn't graphics related, and I have had problems in the past with intel chipsets and processor throttling.
[04:47] <dr_willis> mojtaba:   use the addational-drivers tool to see if theres ati drivers suggested for your card.
[04:48] <mojtaba> dr_willis: How should I use it?
[04:48] <phunyguy> for example, with this laptop on 12.04, when I plug the laptop in, it throttles to 1200MHz, and when I unplug it, it puts the laptop at full speed.  Seems backwards.
[04:48] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  you run it.. and click on the driver it suggests....
[04:48] <phunyguy> mojtaba, how is your battery life?
[04:48] <dr_willis> in 12.10 its under the software-sources tool tabs
[04:48] <phunyguy> dr_willis, he said he already did that
[04:49] <mojtaba> dr_willis: I mean how should I run it, because I have installed it before.
[04:49] <mojtaba> phunyguy: It is pretty shorter than windows unfortunately.
[04:49] <phunyguy> mojtaba, then that is your issue most likely
[04:49] <dr_willis> if you instyalled them and rebooted.. double check that they are in use.. if you still ahve issues.. then its most likely not a video driuver pssue then
[04:50] <dr_willis> unless you got some wonky dual-gpu video card setup... then well.. I dont use those.
[04:50] <phunyguy> mojtaba, please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[04:50] <dr_willis> sounds more like an apci/powersaveing/bios bug
[04:50] <mojtaba> dr_willis: I have checked the additional driver in the software resources and saw there was just something for my wireless driver, nothing else
[04:50] <phunyguy> that is my thought dr_willis
[04:50] <Senjai> What java package should I install?
[04:50] <dr_willis> !java | Senjai
[04:50] <dr_willis> Senjai:  whatever one you want/need. ;)
[04:50] <mojtaba> phunyguy: ok
[04:51] <Guest65873> my computer was windows vista till they completly got rid of it so i dont have acess to it
[04:52] <phunyguy> Guest65873, to make it easier to identify you, please change your nick with the /nick command  (/nick newnickname)
[04:52] <trage> Guest65873: Then most likely you are going to need to download the 32bit Ubuntu Live Disk Installer. That really should work anyways.
[04:52] <mojtaba> phunyguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606897/
[04:52] <phunyguy> there are 11 folks in here with the Guest##### username
[04:53] <Senjai> thank you dr_willis
[04:53] <phunyguy> mojtaba, you have one core that is running at full tilt
[04:53] <phunyguy> do you have a process that is spiking the CPU on you?
[04:53] <Guest65873> so help me do that
[04:53] <mojtaba> phunyguy: what do you mean by spiking?
[04:53] <phunyguy> using 100%
[04:54] <Guest65873> and i dont know how to change my name
[04:54] <phunyguy> !nick
[04:54] <trage> Guest65873: Type "/nick yournicknamehere" without the quotes.
[04:54] <dr_willis>  Guest65873, to make it easier to identify you, please change your nick with the /nick command  (/nick newnickname)
[04:54] <phunyguy> hmmm.... use that /nick command
[04:54] <mojtaba> phunyguy: At the moment I am running virtual machine
[04:55] <dr_willis>  use /nick Bill_Gates  :)
[04:55] <phunyguy> mojtaba, Windows VM?
[04:55] <mojtaba> VB
[04:55] <mojtaba> Is there Windows VM available for linux?
[04:55] <phunyguy> mojtaba, is it Windows in VB
[04:55] <mojtaba> phunyguy: yes
[04:55] <dr_willis> !vbox | mojtaba
[04:55] <osirisx11> hi all, is there a way to make 100% volume be able to go up above 100% without going into the sound manager?
[04:56] <phunyguy> mojtaba, then that may be what is hitting your CPU hard
[04:56] <osirisx11> (make 100% act like 120% or something)
[04:56] <phunyguy> try shutting down the VM for a while to see if it cools down.
[04:56] <osirisx11> i have some nice headphones that really need an amp but i don't want to spring for one right now
[04:56] <mojtaba> phunyguy: ok, meanwhile how can I update my BIOS?
[04:56] <phunyguy> mojtaba, that may be beyond the scope of this channel, try in ##hardware
[04:57] <CalicoJack> hello everyone. quick question: if i install ubuntu on a machine, and then later add a hard drive and install windows on that hard drive, will GRUB automatically detect the windows drive or will i need to reinstall?
[04:57] <phunyguy> CalicoJack, you will just need to add a grub entry for the Windows install
[04:57] <cfhowlett> CalicoJack, you'd need to update grub for it to see any changes
[04:57] <thomedy> okay i have my lamp install started but when i go to the broswer and hit localhost/xampp
[04:57] <thomedy> i get nothing
[04:57] <thomedy> it doesn't have a page
[04:57] <mojtaba> phunyguy: Haven't you do that before? Because actually in the website of the laptop manufacturer they provide an exe file to check the BIOS version under windows os.
[04:57] <Guest65873> my problem is not my nickname right now i need to fix the computer can you please tell me what version to download of the ubuntu
[04:58] <phunyguy> mojtaba, again, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[04:58] <thomedy> setting upa mailserver turned out to be a sucky idea
[04:58] <CalicoJack> cfhowlett is that something i can do from the command line? something easy?
[04:58] <phunyguy> the vendor will provide a CD ISO or the like to boot from/
[04:58] <phunyguy> but you need to contact the laptop maker for that
[04:58] <cfhowlett> CalicoJack, sudo-update grub is the command iirc.
[04:58] <cfhowlett> !grub|CalicoJack,
[04:59] <CalicoJack> cfhowlett nice thank you
[04:59] <cfhowlett> CalicoJack, have fun, be safe
[04:59] <dr_willis> Guest65873:  when in doubt use the 32bit desktop version - it should run on the most hardware
[04:59] <phunyguy> mojtaba, did the laptop cool down?
[04:59] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I closed the VB, but still the fan is working with max speed.
[04:59] <mojtaba> phunyguy: no. :(
[04:59] <trage> Guest65873: Go to the Ubuntu Download Desktop page and make sure the 32bit installer is selected... then click on Get Ubuntu 12.10 button.
[05:00] <dr_willis> Guest65873:  12.04 32bit would be the safest bet.
[05:00] <phunyguy> please paste your cat /proc/cpuinfo again to see what it looks like
[05:00] <dr_willis> if you got older hardware.
[05:00] <mojtaba> phunyguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1606915/
[05:01] <thomedy> oh god i really need help now
[05:01] <thomedy> i love doing this stuff but i hate doing it when i dont know what im doing
[05:01] <phunyguy> hmmm give it a few more moments mojtaba
[05:01] <mojtaba> phunyguy: ok
[05:01] <phunyguy> is this a fairly new laptop/
[05:01] <phunyguy> ?
[05:02] <mojtaba> phunyguy: Actually It is Dell Studio 1555
[05:02] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I guess 2 years old
[05:02] <phunyguy> hmmm... and you get nothing for ATI restricted drivers...
[05:02] <mojtaba> phunyguy: no
[05:03] <mojtaba> phunyguy: how can I check that again?
[05:03] <phunyguy> mojtaba, do you know how to disable the ATI video in the bios?
[05:03] <phunyguy> and use onboard?
[05:03] <Harlingen> Hi ubuntu?
[05:03] <phunyguy> I'm curious to see if it does the same thing then
[05:03] <phunyguy> Hi Harlingen
[05:03] <arussel> I have start up script in my /etc/init.d, if I had the line: su -m ubuntu -c "exec touch /tmp/ubuntutest"
[05:03] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, greetings
[05:03] <Harlingen> Hi phunyguy
[05:03] <arussel> then I end up with the file ubuntutest in /tmp
[05:03] <Harlingen> Hello Cfhowlett
[05:04] <mojtaba> phunyguy: actually I have not seen such possibility in BIOS
[05:04] <Harlingen> I'm installing ubuntu desktop at the moment.
[05:04] <arussel> if I had the line: su -m tomcat7 -c "exec touch /tmp/tomcat7test", I don't, any idea why ?
[05:04] <Harlingen> It seems to be a .zip file.
[05:04] <Harlingen> I'd like to burn it to a DVD.
[05:04] <Harlingen> So that I may make it bootable for CD-ROM on this blank laptop.
[05:04] <phunyguy> Harlingen, then open the iso you downloaded with burning software and not an archive app
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !unetbootin|Harlingen,
[05:04] <Guest65873> what am i suppose to look for when i go to the page because their is alot of diffrent kinds
[05:05] <Harlingen> Thanks
[05:05] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, he wants to burn, not USB
[05:05] <Harlingen> Okay, like nero correct?
[05:05] <trage> Guest65873: Go to the Ubuntu Download Desktop page and make sure the 32bit installer is selected... then click on Get Ubuntu 12.10 button.
[05:05] <Guest65873> can you copy a link where i can just click
[05:05] <phunyguy> Harlingen, are you in Windows?
[05:05]  * cfhowlett facesmack into the window
[05:05] <mojtaba> phunyguy: How can I do that?
[05:05] <phunyguy> mojtaba, do what?
[05:05] <Harlingen> At this moment phuny? Yes my Step brother wants ubuntu on his laptop that apparently has a already reformatted partition.
[05:05] <trage> Guest65873: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[05:06] <phunyguy> Harlingen, then learn how to burn an ISO
[05:06] <mojtaba> phunyguy: phunyguy: mojtaba, do you know how to disable the ATI video in the bios?
[05:06] <Harlingen> It's a blank Laptop with no OS on it currently.
[05:06] <Harlingen> I'm guessing it'd be easier using usb?
[05:06] <phunyguy> mojtaba, that would be laptop specific, I was just curious if you knew about the option
[05:06] <Queen`Bee> if you have windows7 all you have to do to burn an .ISO is double click to open it then click burn
[05:06] <Harlingen> I have a 4gb usb here.
[05:06] <Harlingen> Would that work easier?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, forgive me for previous bad intel.
[05:06] <mojtaba> phunyguy: I have not seen such possibility in the BIOS.
[05:07] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, not necessarily, the file-associations could be changed with something like winrar
[05:07] <Harlingen> It's okay I understand how it's like having a noob ask retarded questions.
[05:07] <Harlingen> I'm just trying to my best not to annoy you fine gents.
[05:07] <thomedy> please help.. i just want my server back
[05:07] <mojtaba> phunyguy: Do you know something I could do?
[05:07] <phunyguy> Harlingen, you are better off just looking up how to burn an ISO in Windows, with something like Nero, and then come back if you have issues installing Ubuntu]
[05:07] <Harlingen> Hmm..
[05:08] <phunyguy> mojtaba, unfortunately no.
[05:08] <Queen`Bee> winrar doesnt associate to .iso by default. thats something a user would do,
[05:08] <mojtaba> phunyguy: actually at the moment just I have terminal and pidgin running, but the fan is blowing up.
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, or make a boot USB ...
[05:08] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, yes it does.  Fact.
[05:08] <Harlingen> Thank you cfhowlett.
[05:08] <Harlingen> That would be much easier I assume.
[05:08] <Harlingen> Third party program would be requried to do so right?
[05:08] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do to cool down my laptop?
[05:08] <Queen`Bee> since what version? winrar leaves that checkbox unchecked last i installed
[05:08] <phunyguy> !unetbootin | Harlingen
[05:08] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, yes, unetbootin is a fine example
[05:09] <Guest65873> ok i am their now what should i pick
[05:09] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, don't know, but its been a while.  He may have an old version
[05:09] <Queen`Bee> it never did
[05:09] <Guest65873> open with or save file
[05:09] <trage> Guest65873: The one that says (reccommended)
[05:09] <Queen`Bee> save
[05:09] <phunyguy> and even if not, a simple "select all" would do it
[05:09] <Queen`Bee> save file. if you are using windows and want to boot from USB: this is best: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CD4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxliveusb.com%2Fen%2Fdownload&ei=ckIPUczjCof-iQLQ64HwBQ&usg=AFQjCNEVClXlrB5WeGBp9m7qNXrEh10UOA&bvm=bv.41867550,d.cGE
[05:09] <Queen`Bee> ...
[05:10] <FloodBot1> Queen`Bee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <Queen`Bee> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[05:10] <Guest65873> it said save
[05:10] <Queen`Bee> thanx google.
[05:10] <Harlingen> Queen bee?
[05:10] <Harlingen> Lili seems pretty cool.
[05:10] <Queen`Bee> lili is the best
[05:11] <Harlingen> Awesome
[05:11] <Harlingen> So I download ubuntu then I use lili to put the file unto is to use as " Bootable usb "
[05:11] <Queen`Bee> yes
[05:11] <Queen`Bee> simple
[05:11] <Harlingen> I have a 4gb usb stick is that enough?
[05:11] <phunyguy> yes
[05:12] <Harlingen> Beautiful.
[05:12] <Harlingen> Thanks guys
[05:12] <Harlingen> You all rock.
[05:12] <Harlingen> Also, winXP and ubuntu...
[05:13] <Harlingen> Should I make the switch coming from an HP Mini?
[05:13] <Queen`Bee> thats not something i can answer for you
[05:13] <phunyguy> Harlingen, depends on your needs
[05:13] <Queen`Bee> as far as security is concerned, XP is dead your better off with any linux
[05:13] <Harlingen> I see
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, for a mini?  try lubuntu or xubuntu.  both are optimized for low spec and older machines.
[05:14] <Harlingen> Nice
[05:14] <phunyguy> Xubuntu would probably be ideal
[05:14] <Queen`Bee> xubuntu is my fav
[05:14] <Harlingen> Yea, Its been using winXP for 3years.
[05:14] <cfhowlett> xubuntu is the foundation for ubuntustudio
[05:14] <Harlingen> I love it but for some reason it's hell booting up you know?
[05:14] <Queen`Bee> Ubuntu Studio is actually better but requires more hard drive space
[05:14] <Harlingen> Lol
[05:15] <thomedy> okay... i just did it myself... but can i say all that crap online is a waiste... isound angrier than i really am
[05:15] <thomedy> but a simple series of ps -e  | grep "thing i need" worked fine
[05:15] <phunyguy> btw Queen`Bee, I am installing wine to test your theory on winrar  ;)
[05:16] <Guest65873> ok so now what do i do
[05:16] <Queen`Bee> i've been using winrar since the 90s and .iso has never been checked by default
[05:16] <phunyguy> we will see.
[05:17] <Harlingen> I still love winXP.
[05:17] <Harlingen> :P
[05:17] <Queen`Bee> i loved it since its beta days but going back to it... its like going back to WinME
[05:17] <Harlingen> Really?
[05:18] <trage> Guest65873: Did you download the ISO?
[05:18] <Harlingen> I've seen programs for Ubuntu the only thing that turned me off was it had an " App Store "
[05:18] <Harlingen> You also had to use " Wine " for windows programs.
[05:18] <Harlingen> Which is fine I know thats not it's intended purpose.
[05:18] <Harlingen> I just really wish I knew what the OS was for.. mainly.
[05:18] <Queen`Bee> if you use any desktop manager becides the default one called "unity" that amazon stuff is not present
[05:19] <Guest65873> i belive so
[05:19] <Queen`Bee> oh the software center
[05:19] <Harlingen> I mean...
[05:19] <Queen`Bee> well the software center (or app store) makes things A LOT easier
[05:19] <trage> Guest65873: And you are currently using Windows Vista?
[05:19] <Harlingen> Windows is for hackers and is easily hacked into etc.
[05:20] <Harlingen> iOS is for people who just want to chill out or something.
[05:20] <Guest65873> i wish i was
[05:20] <phunyguy> Lets keep this on-topic
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !ot please
[05:20] <Harlingen> I'm I off topic?
[05:20] <Queen`Bee> yes
[05:20] <Harlingen> Sorry, I just want to know the difference between the 3.
[05:21] <Harlingen> Sparking up conversation thats all.
[05:21] <cfhowlett> Harlingen, best we have that talk in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel please
[05:21]  * Queen`Bee invites to Harlingen  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:21] <Harlingen> I think I've over stayed my welcome.
[05:21] <Harlingen> Thanks guys for the help
[05:22] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, I am afraid you are wrong
[05:22]  * Harlingen shakes Queen Bee's Hand.
[05:22] <phunyguy> :)
[05:22] <Queen`Bee> whiat version?
[05:22] <trage> Guest65873: Okay, what OS are you currently using?
[05:22] <phunyguy> 4.11
[05:22] <Queen`Bee> i guess i never made it that far
[05:23] <phunyguy> http://i.imgur.com/WfPnAkq.png
[05:23] <phunyguy> Queen`Bee, it has been like this for YEARS.
[05:23] <Queen`Bee> i believe ya
[05:23] <phunyguy> so that is why I said, it was something like WinRAR that is opening the ISO
[05:24] <Guest65873> ubuntu one
[05:24] <trage> Guest65873: What kind of computer?
[05:24] <Guest65873> dell inspiron 1520
[05:25] <Guest65873> it had windows vista
[05:28] <trage> Guest65873: Okay little confused... I was under the impression that Ubuntu One was a cloud based storage solution... not an OS like Windows or Ubuntu or MAC OSX. From here you need to burn your ISO that you downloaded to a disk and then boot from the disk. Once you get to that point the Installer will walk you through the rest of the way. If you don't know how to burn an ISO or boot from a disk there are lots of resources and walk throughs online you can google
[05:28] <guideX> Windows Vista :)
[05:29] <cfhowlett> trage, ubuntu one is similar to dropbox not an OS
[05:29] <guideX> I used it before the beta's were out, when it was still called longhorn
[05:29] <trage> cfhowlett: Thats what I thought. When i asked Guest65873 what OS they are currently running they told me Ubuntu One. I scratched my head.
[05:30] <cfhowlett> trage, :_)
[05:31] <Guest65873> lol
[05:31] <trage> :)
[05:32] <Guest65873> i am so lost what i want to do is just get my computer running
[05:32] <guideX> I was where you are now two days ago Guest65873
[05:32] <jab416171> Guest65873: try strapping it to a horse
[05:32] <guideX> when my copy of ubuntu 11.04 exploded
[05:32] <Guest65873> lol
[05:33] <jab416171> :)
[05:33] <guideX> Guest it's not running?
[05:33] <trage> Guest65873: Then I suggest you take it to a professional if you want it done quickly or you can stumble through it like the reest of us did while we actually learned how our computers worked.
[05:33] <guideX> how are you here now
[05:33] <Guest65873> i will stumble if their is someone to pick me up
[05:34] <trage> Guest65873: Good question. If it doesn't work, are you using a different computer to download?
[05:34] <guideX> is it very slow?
[05:34] <Guest65873> no i am on the one with all the problems
[05:35] <Guest65873> where do i go to download the iso can you copy the link for me
[05:35] <trage> Guest65873: We are here to pick you up, but you have to catch up on some basics and there are many good tuts out there already. Just focus on one step at a time 1) Get ISO to disc 2) Boot from disc. Google "How to <insert goal here>" and you will be surprised what you can learn.
[05:36] <Queen`Bee> when you turn it on, what do you see? windows? ubuntu? it would really help to know what platform so we can properly guide you. dont wanna suggest windows apps and proceedures if your not using windows
[05:36] <Guest65873> ubuntu
[05:37] <trage> Confused* Must be passed my bed time. Good luck.
[05:37] <guideX> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc <- link for iso
[05:38] <guideX> i'm not sure if you can just go there like that but..
[05:38] <Queen`Bee> worked for me
[05:38] <Queen`Bee> save the file to your downloads folder
[05:39] <M4573R> .
[05:39] <M4573R> hi
[05:40] <Queen`Bee> hi
[05:40] <M4573R> :)
[05:40] <M4573R> hi queen
[05:40] <M4573R> i love ubuntu
[05:40] <cfhowlett> M4573R, greetings
[05:40] <M4573R> i love free world
[05:41] <cfhowlett> M4573R, this is the support channel.  What can we help with?
[05:41] <guideX> Guest65873: if you're in windows, you can use Virtual CloneDrive
[05:41] <thomedy> okay... i hhas anyone seen the new security concept from linux xampp
[05:41] <phunyguy> !ot | M4573R
[05:41] <M4573R> i have some questions....
[05:41] <Queen`Bee> thomedy,  im not following
[05:41] <phunyguy> !ask | M4573R
[05:41] <cfhowlett> M4573R, ask.  with details
[05:42] <thomedy> well i have set up a new install of xampp for windows and while i realize thats not supported by ubuntu that doesn't mean someone doesn't knkow a fix for the new security concept that wont give me access
[05:42] <guideX> how do I make the scroll wheel on my mouse work?
[05:42] <phunyguy> thomedy, no.
[05:42] <guideX> it doesn't work in ubuntu 12.10
[05:42] <thomedy> i ahve done to google tuts and neither of them did anything and i did restart my lamp
[05:42] <Queen`Bee> thomedy,  try in #windows   #ubuntu cant fix windows issues
[05:43] <Queen`Bee> im running xampp in 12.10 right now and it works beatifully
[05:43] <thomedy> yeah but im running linux thats i knwo stupid how im doing
[05:43] <thomedy> it
[05:43]  * phunyguy is confused
[05:43] <thomedy> is it a new xampp well it would have to be
[05:43] <thomedy> damn.. im getting irritated
[05:43] <thomedy> okay
[05:43] <phunyguy> what is your exact issue
[05:43] <cfhowlett> thomedy, slow down, relax and breathe.  Attitude counts
[05:43] <Guest65873> well now i cant find google
[05:44] <Guest65873> can someone give me the link
[05:44] <guideX> try yahoo.com, and type google
[05:44] <Queen`Bee> thomedy,  have you tried xampp's officiasl support channel?  #apachefriends
[05:44] <thomedy> well i have xampp up.. it took a bit of work after i jacked up my original xampp install trying to creatre a mail server or however i would describe that
[05:44] <ubuntu518> 有说中文的朋友吗
[05:44] <Guest65873> i have no browser
[05:44] <cfhowlett> !cn|ubuntu518,
[05:44] <Guest65873> just this chat
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[05:44] <jab416171> try http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, go there.  download and save the iso.
[05:45] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, no google required
[05:45] <Queen`Bee> guest, you have a browser. this is the .ISO link: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[05:45] <thomedy> now i have it again and its saying they have a new security concept for phpmyadmin and it has to be local.. i am local however and i tried 2 seperate fixes google sent me to with  no effect and i did restart xampp
[05:45] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you have been provided the link at least 5 times in the last hour. im starting to think you are just giving support a hard time.
[05:45] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, I think he means something crashed
[05:45] <Ben64> thomedy: but this is on windows?
[05:45] <thomedy> nope linux
[05:45] <thomedy> 12.04 ubuntu
[05:45] <Ben64> cause you said windows earlier
[05:45] <thomedy> i didn't mean to if i did im sorry
[05:46] <jab416171> Google Chrome has blocked access to this page on www.ubuntu.com. Content from www.qcksrv.com, a known malware distributor, has been inserted into this web page. Visiting this page now is very likely to infect your computer with malware.
[05:46] <phunyguy> yeah he did hence my "/me is confused"
[05:46] <thomedy> i hate windows im not sure how windows got in my brain
[05:46] <jab416171> why does chrome hate ubuntu.com
 well i have set up a new install of xampp for windows....
[05:46] <Guest65873> no i am not
[05:46] <Queen`Bee> thomedy,  have you tried xampp's officiasl support channel?  #apachefriends
[05:46] <thomedy> im in there right now
[05:46] <Queen`Bee> k
[05:46] <thomedy> but its not that popular
[05:46] <Guest65873> giving you a hard time i swear
[05:46] <cfhowlett> jab416171, google chrome doesn't block ubuntu by default ...
[05:47] <thomedy> im trying to get a portfolio in of my webdevelopment and i am up for 2 major jobs in almost 6 figs a year
[05:47] <Guest65873> i you can get into my computer and fix it for me i will allow you to do so
[05:47] <thomedy> i just need to finish my portfolio and send it to the 2nd company in nyc
[05:47] <guideX> i'm at the ubuntu site right now and it's not poping up that message
[05:47] <phunyguy> Guest65873, then you won't learn nothin
[05:47] <jab416171> cfhowlett: not ubuntu.com, but that link
[05:47] <jab416171>  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=32&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[05:48] <cfhowlett> jab416171, sounds like a security setting to me as it's blocking the download
[05:48] <jab416171> I don't have any settings afaik
[05:48] <Brewmaster619> that link works for me in Chrome
[05:48] <phunyguy> is there a "proceed anyway" button, jab416171 ?
[05:48] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: support can not do that. you will have to click the link provided and then take the time to patiently read the instructions on the page. there is no easy way around your problem.
[05:48] <jab416171> yeah phunyguy
[05:49] <Brewmaster619> <and starts the download>
[05:49] <Queen`Bee> Guest65873 you want to download the 32bit .ISO
[05:49] <Guest65873> yes
[05:49] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: that's weird
[05:49] <jab416171> http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qcksrv.com%2Fsupport%2Fwww%2Fdelivery%2Fafr.php%3Fzoneid%3D35%26refresh%3D110%26cb%3D1359956956898%26beacon%3Da35aba04%26n%3Da56aab52&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US
[05:50] <Guest65873> i copy the link and pasted it into the search area on top of this page and nothing happen
[05:50] <cfhowlett> jab416171, qckserv.com is the problem not ubuntu
[05:50] <jab416171> I know
[05:50] <jab416171> but my browser thinks qckserv has inserted content on ubuntu.com
[05:50] <phunyguy> Guest65873, did you hit ENTER?
[05:50] <phunyguy> ><
[05:50] <cfhowlett> jab416171, ahh, well then ..
[05:50] <Guest65873> lol yes i did come on
[05:51] <phunyguy> hey, with how things are going, I had to be sure.
[05:51] <Guest65873> I am dumb but not that much
[05:51] <Brewmaster619> I know the dumb iso server at my hotel is blocking me from downloading anything from Adobe (i.e. my outdated flash), nothing I can do about it
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Brewmaster619, there it is...
[05:53] <Brewmaster619> fortunately ubuntu isn't blocked...I don't know why they would block Adobe.
[05:53] <phunyguy> So I have a question again, I installed the gmail unity-webapp thing, and then removed it, but the icon is still in the indicator-applet envelope.  Even after a restart, it remains.  How do I remove it?
[05:54] <ubuntu> has any1 installed KOHA library management system ?
[05:54] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: there is a strong possibility that you simply cannot do what you want to do from your current computer. do you have access to any other computer? friends? relatives? maybe tomorrow?
[05:55] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: phunyguy: cfhowlett: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/chrome/3iqUPO8SYQc
[05:55] <Guest65873> yes i do my iphone
[05:55] <phunyguy> iphone will not help
[05:55] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you cannot use an iphone
[05:55]  * cfhowlett Thinks downloading ubuntu iso on iphone might not be the best way to go ...
[05:56] <phunyguy> !anyone | ubuntu
[05:56] <Brewmaster619> Thanks.  That's weird
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Brewmaster619, I'm on internet in China.  You ain't seen weird yet ...
[05:56] <Guest65873> well then i guess i have fallen and no one can pick me up i will try again in the morning
[05:56] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you will need access to a pc or laptop with windows, mac osx, or a linux distribution like ubuntu
[05:56] <jab416171> yeah, looks like about an hour ago a ton of chrome users started seeing it
[05:57] <Brewmaster619> maybe try a different browser?
[05:57]  * phunyguy thinks google chrome is unsupported here
[05:57] <Guest65873> how can i reload my vista and get rid of ubuntu
[05:57] <guideX> there's still different browsers?!
[05:57] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: that is already fully functioning with no known problems
[05:57] <guideX> .. other than chrome?
[05:57] <cfhowlett> !browser|guideX,
[05:57] <phunyguy> guideX?
[05:58] <guideX> yep
[05:58] <phunyguy> google chrome is a third party browser, and not in the repos
[05:58] <phunyguy> chromium is supported
[05:58]  * jab416171 is on windows
[05:58] <jab416171> lol
[05:58] <Brewmaster619> I haven't used a terminal browser in years...probably fast, at least.
[05:58] <Guest65873> see the problem is i cant find my browser for some reason it is not on my list just this chat is their
[05:59] <phunyguy> jab416171, well then you get nothing  :)
[05:59] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, start browser from a terminal
[05:59] <jab416171> nothing? lol
[05:59] <jab416171> you mean no support?
[05:59] <phunyguy> definitely not for chrome on windows
[05:59]  * cfhowlett phunyguy, it's "You get NOTHING!"
[05:59] <phunyguy> nevermind just chrome
[06:00] <Guest65873> how do you get to the terminal
[06:00] <jab416171> I wasn't really asking for support, was just puzzled why my browser started telling me ubuntu.com was malicious
[06:00] <phunyguy> Guest65873, are you in a ubuntu OS?
[06:00] <jab416171> Guest65873: ctrl + alt + T
[06:00] <Guest65873> ok then type in what
[06:00] <phunyguy> Guest65873, firefox &
[06:00] <anonymousraptr> cfhowlett: i walked him through getting to the terminal almost 3 hours ago. Guest65873 is going in circles.
[06:01] <Brewmaster619> Just remember, if someone tells you ctrl-alt-F1, that ctrl-alt-f7 gets you back :-)
[06:01] <Guest65873> i sure am
[06:01] <cfhowlett> anonymousraptr, noted
[06:01] <Guest65873> her
[06:01] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, your browser if probably firefox.  type that in the terminal to start it.
[06:01] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: you can also do chvt 7
[06:02] <Guest65873> no it was google chrome
[06:02] <Brewmaster619> chvt 7?
[06:02] <jab416171> "change to virtual terminal 7"
[06:02] <jab416171> same as ctrl+alt+7
[06:02] <Brewmaster619> thanks. learn something new every day
[06:02] <Guest65873> i did that
[06:03] <jab416171> yeah, learned it from this post: http://superuser.com/questions/545329/blank-screen-if-kids-yell-too-much
[06:03] <Guest65873> then i type in firefox google and nothing happen
[06:03] <Brewmaster619> I've gotten stuck in tty1 before...took me a long time to figure out how to get out of it...easy when you know how.
[06:03] <jab416171> Guest65873: are you connected to the internet?
[06:03] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you are not currently using the ubuntu operating system are you?
[06:03] <Guest65873> yes i am
[06:03] <jab416171> yeah Brewmaster619 the first time I did it I was so confused
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, firefox google? of COURSE that won't work.   NO such program.
[06:03] <jab416171> cfhowlett: he typed in "google" into firefox
[06:03] <phunyguy> Guest65873, we are losing hope
[06:03] <guideX> is there a program like sql yog or ms management studio for linux? where you can manage your mysql server and create new db's (in a ui)?
[06:04] <Guest65873> it looks that way
[06:04] <anonymousraptr> Guest65873: you cant be. google chrome is not loaded onto ubuntu.
[06:04] <jab416171> Guest65873: in a terminal, type in "dig google.com"
[06:04] <Guest65873> I guess its going to cost me 100.00 to fix the computer
[06:04] <cfhowlett> anonymousraptr, not by default.
[06:04] <jab416171> Guest65873: what do you get?
[06:05] <anonymousraptr> cfhowlett: at his current user level (unable to find the Dash Home button or even the toolbar) it is beyond his level to have installed chrome. something is fishy here.
[06:06] <phunyguy> guilt isnt allowed here, Guest65873
[06:06] <cfhowlett> anonymousraptr, *sniff*  Yep.  Doesn't pass the smell test.
[06:06] <Guest65873> ok well that one worked dig google.com\
[06:06] <Brewmaster619> My Unity isn't working either...had to change the login to Gnome
[06:06] <jab416171> Guest65873: what was the output?
[06:06] <Brewmaster619> Let me guess, you're only using Chrome becasue there's a shortcut on your desktop
[06:07] <Guest65873> ; <<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1 <<>> google.com
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; global options: +cmd
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; Got answer:
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17153
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 11, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
[06:07] <FloodBot1> Guest65873: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <Guest65873> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
[06:07] <tomreyn_> guideX: mysql-workbench
[06:07] <jab416171> ...
[06:08] <Brewmaster619> uh oh floodbotted
[06:08] <jab416171> Guest65873: just the answer line
[06:09] <jab416171> google.com some.ip.address
[06:09] <Abhijit> hello. any ofbiz user?
[06:09] <tomreyn> jab416171:  you want +short
[06:09] <phunyguy> I am guessing he was trolling a little
[06:10] <jab416171> tomreyn: "+short"? not "--short"?
[06:10] <anonymousraptr> jab416171: he is either working in another os, or his OS is messed up or he is trolling.
[06:10] <tomreyn> jab416171: + is correct
[06:10] <Brewmaster619> Guest65873: If you are having the sameME, and hopefully that will work better for you.
[06:10] <jab416171> does the bot do man pages?
[06:11] <Brewmaster619> same problem as me.
[06:11] <thomedy> crap on my chest and tell R-Kelly that toook way too much time away from my actuall progress but i got it...
[06:11] <Brewmaster619> I don't know that you do, but ....
[06:11] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: what's your problem?
[06:11] <Brewmaster619> I think I messed up my nvidia drivers
[06:11] <jab416171> I messed up my ATI drivers :(
[06:12] <jab416171> there's a watermark in the bottom right of my screen that says "AMD Unsupported Hardware"
[06:12] <dr_willis> jab416171:  youa re using the beta drivers...
[06:12] <dr_willis> removeing the watermark is mentioned at askubuntu.com
[06:12] <jab416171> dr_willis: am I?
[06:12] <dr_willis> thats the only time ieve ever seen someone see that watermark
[06:13] <jab416171> hmm
[06:13] <Brewmaster619> Unity doesn't work...launcher, etc
[06:13] <jab416171> I don't think I said "install the beta drivers"
[06:13] <Guest65873> i quit have a good nite all sorry if i bother you all I just dont understand this ubuntu i have to get rid of it some how\
[06:13] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=ati%20watermark
[06:13] <PatrickDickey> Guest65873: what's the issue you're having? I just walked in.
[06:13] <Guest65873> alot
[06:14] <Guest65873> i cant find my browser
[06:14] <PatrickDickey> Guest65873: Are you having issues with doing things in Ubuntu, or issues with hardware and things not working?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> PatrickDickey, troll suspect
[06:14] <PatrickDickey> !ubuntu-manual | Guest65873 this may get you going
[06:14] <Guest65873> doing thing in ubuntu
[06:14] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, he can't figure out how to get a browser working, or go to ubuntu.com
[06:14] <Guest65873> hardware is good
[06:14] <Brewmaster619> Chrome is blocking Ubuntu for him..apparently he's not the only one, and he can't find Firefox
[06:14] <Queen`Bee> i dont know how he could have things so messed up if its not already installed
[06:14] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74537/amd-unsupported-software-message-in-the-right-corner/74798#74798
[06:15] <Guest65873> i dont have the cd to reinstall it
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> !manual | Guest65873 this may get you going
[06:15] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, that would be useful for him if he could figure out how to open a link
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> Guest65873: Are you running ubuntu right now?
[06:15] <Guest65873> see when i click on the link nothing happens
[06:15] <anonymousraptr> Is there a moderator on the channel?
[06:15] <Gumby> Guest65873: press alt+f2 and then type in firefox
[06:16] <cfhowlett> anonymousraptr, they can be called in emergencies ...
[06:16] <jab416171> PatrickDickey: he's been in here for over 2 hours
[06:16] <Brewmaster619> Quenn'Bee: Oh, you can mess it up bad alright :-)
[06:16] <Gumby> Guest65873: right click the link and choose "Open link in browser"
[06:16] <Queen`Bee> Guest65873,  go to ubuntu.com, click download. you want to download the 32bit .iso
[06:16] <Brewmaster619> pardon me, Queen'Bee
[06:16] <Guest65873> yes that is what using
[06:16] <jab416171> Guest65873: you could use lynx or wget
[06:16] <jab416171> and then dd to put it on a flash drive or a CD
[06:17] <Brewmaster619> lynx isn't installed by default..correct me if I'm wrong
[06:17] <phunyguy> it's not
[06:17] <Gumby> wget is
[06:17] <jab416171> you're correct
[06:17] <Guest65873> good nite
[06:17] <Queen`Bee> we gave him a direct link to the .ISO and chrome is blocking it. he needs to manually navigate to ubuntu.com, go to the download page and select 32bit .ISO
[06:17] <phunyguy> good night.
[06:17] <cfhowlett> Guest65873, good nighht
[06:17] <Gumby> Queen`Bee: or use an alternate browser
[06:17] <Gumby> Queen`Bee: or wget
[06:17] <Gumby> Queen`Bee: he's been given options, he chooses not to listen
[06:17] <phunyguy>  /headdesk
[06:18] <Queen`Bee> unity was too confusing to find firefox apparently and wget is scary and confusing if you dont know linux
[06:18] <jab416171> scary? lol
[06:18] <Gumby> and pressing ctrl+f2 and typing "firefox" is too difficult as well?
[06:18] <Gumby> sorry, alt+f2
[06:18] <PatrickDickey> Guest65873: You could always try opening a terminal (CTRL+ALT+T) and type sudo apt-get install firefox If it says it's already at the latest version, then you can type firefox & and it should open it.
[06:18] <cfhowlett> he left.
[06:19] <tomreyn> he did find xchat, though
[06:19] <Gumby> heh
[06:19] <Brewmaster619> I think he hosed his video drivers, and that's why he couldn't find unity.
[06:19] <jab416171> was he using xchat?
[06:19] <tomreyn> yes
[06:20] <Gumby> are you sure?
[06:20] <jab416171> that's not installed by default, right?
[06:20] <Gumby> he'd have to made his name "guest"
[06:20] <jab416171> no, his name was mike
[06:20] <jab416171> nickserv made it guest
[06:20] <Gumby> ah
[06:21] <Queen`Bee> i agree with however told him to take it to some one who knows what they are doing.
[06:21] <Queen`Bee> whoever*
[06:22] <Queen`Bee> being unable to navigate ubuntu.com is a sign they need more help than we can give
[06:23] <anonymousraptr> i think guest65873 was trolling
[06:23] <Brewmaster619> he had the right link; I went to it with my Chrome, and immediately started downloading the iso.
[06:23] <jab416171> Brewmaster619: he found the link? or someone gave it to him?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Brewmaster619, same same and moving on ...
[06:24] <Brewmaster619> jawohl
[06:24] <jab416171> cfhowlett: how long until you gave up?
[06:24] <jab416171> I saw you were the first to help
[06:24] <cfhowlett> jab416171, 30 minutes.  I'm generally pretty patient plus I'm multi-tasking ...
[06:24] <jab416171> not bad
[06:25] <ClientAlive> first time I ever had a computer with a blue ray player in it. I try to play the disc in VLC and I get the following: ""
[06:25] <ClientAlive> Blu-Ray error:
[06:25] <ClientAlive> Your system AACS decoding library does not work. Missing keys?
[06:25] <ClientAlive> Your input can't be opened:
[06:25] <ClientAlive> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'bluray:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.
[06:25] <FloodBot1> ClientAlive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <dr_willis> !blueray
[06:25] <dr_willis> You have to do special stuff to play BR in ubuntu
[06:26] <anonymousraptr> the whole channel had been trying to help him since 10:22PM cst and he just kept going in the same circles
[06:26] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: ok. Will I find the answer at those links? What exactly should I look for there?
[06:26] <cfhowlett> ClientAlive, at minimum, you'll want ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:26] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  theres some extra stuff you got to instal is all i recall.
[06:26] <ClientAlive> ok
[06:26] <ClientAlive> I'll look at those links and fire up synaptic
[06:26] <ClientAlive> thx  :)
[06:27] <dr_willis> first google hit for 'ubuntu blueray' =  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/how-to-get-encrypted-blu-rays-working.html
[06:27] <dr_willis> thats using a special vlc ppa it seems..
[06:28] <dr_willis> For Ubuntu 12.10 and newer, you only need to run the last command above
[06:28] <dr_willis> which says -->   sudo apt-get install vlc libaacs0 libbluray-bdj libbluray1
[06:28] <Brewmaster619> I've nevr had a bluray..maybe sometime.  any troubel with tem, other than non-free formats?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> we are not installing bluray players by default?
[06:30] <dr_willis> I can think of otehr defaults i need more then a BR player
[06:31] <Queen`Bee> blueray uses nonfree codec
[06:31] <gnomefreak> libbluray1 is default
[06:31] <gnomefreak> you can install non-free apps during install
[06:33] <gnomefreak> what is SpaceFM?
[06:33] <dr_willis> !info spacefm
[06:33] <dr_willis> dont sound familer to me
[06:34] <dr_willis> SpaceFM is a multi-panel tabbed file and desktop manager for Linux with built-in VFS, udev- or HAL-based device manager,
[06:34] <dr_willis> http://ignorantguru.github.com/spacefm/
[06:34] <gnomefreak> me neither but im reading an article that mentions it while talking about gtk3
[06:35] <gnomefreak> im reading one of his rants right now
[06:35] <gnomefreak> http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
[06:36] <dr_willis> looks like a file manager that comes on the gparted live cd..
[06:36] <PatrickDickey> I'd say if ubuntu detects a blue-ray drive, then it should install the codecs (if you chose to install non-free ones). Otherwise not.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ah
[06:36] <anonymousraptr> is there a terminal that is transparent the way that the default term in backtrack 5 is transparent?
[06:37] <Queen`Bee> you can configure it to be tansparent
[06:37] <Queen`Bee> edit -> prefs -> appearance
[06:37] <dr_willis> most of the terminal apps can have a transparany option..
[06:37] <dr_willis> compiz can make ANY window transparent.. ;) with the right plugin
[06:37] <makara-> hi. I can't get to the OK button on a dialog in Avidemux. Is there any way of shrinking the window, or maybe dragging it past the top of the desktop. If I right-click the titlebar > move, I can drag it past the left, right and bottom, but not up.
[06:38] <dr_willis> Nothing to do with any backtrack 'features' '_
[06:38] <gnomefreak> anonymousraptr: i use gnome-terminal and i can change the setting for transparent
[06:38] <Queen`Bee> makara-,  press alt+spacebar and select move
[06:38] <dr_willis> makara-:  hold alt key. click anywhere. drag...
[06:38] <makara-> dr_willis, yes!
[06:39] <dr_willis> or check the  work space switcher.. and  you can drag it across 2  workspaces and have the extra buttons on the 2nd workspace
[06:39] <makara-> both
[06:39] <dr_willis> you can move thingsd in the workspace switcher also
[06:39] <dr_willis> people over look that feature
[06:39] <Queen`Bee> i forget about it
[06:39] <makara-> dr_willis, I thought it was CTRL 'cause that's what Photoshop uses
[06:40] <dr_willis> never used photo shop...
[06:40] <makara-> great app
[06:40] <dr_willis> X has the alt-click to move feature.. its  been a feaature for decades
[06:40] <dr_willis> I dont want or need photoshop..  I owe you a lot than that.. you've helped me before going thru all in feisty fawn
[06:44] <gnomefreak> ah its the same
[06:44] <Queen`Bee> anonymousraptr, for terminal transparency: edit -> prefs -> appearance
[06:44] <gnomefreak> i still have feisty on one of my laptops
[06:45] <dr_willis> i cant stand trasparent terminals.. it just makes the text harder to read
[06:45] <blake> or anonymousraptr  use Guake :D
[06:45] <anonymousraptr> Queen`Bee: got it, thanks :)
[06:45] <blake> !gauke
[06:45] <gnomefreak> yep sometimes it does. i have mine set about half
[06:45] <gnomefreak> try !guake
[06:46] <dr_willis> try a !info :)
[06:46] <dr_willis> Theres also some alternatives to the ~ type pop down terminals i recall..
[06:46] <dr_willis> seen a few new ones here in the last few months
[06:46] <dr_willis> !info tilda
[06:46] <dr_willis> !info guake
[06:46] <blake> like I said, Guake :D
[06:47] <gnomefreak> i used to love guake
[06:47] <gnomefreak> but it was too big for me and i didnt know how to make it smaller
[06:47] <anonymousraptr> terminal is so much easier to use now.
[06:48] <gnomefreak> you could always use screen :)
[06:48] <jab416171> is there a terminal that re-wraps the text when you resize it, like the mac terminal?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> and if someone learns it teach it to me
[06:48] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107481/drop-down-terminal-as-smooth-as-gnome-shells-looking-glass
[06:48] <dr_willis> screen is not hard to learn. but i tend to use tmux more these days
[06:48] <jab416171> gnomefreak: I hear tmux is better
[06:49] <blake> by the way, dr_willis can I ask something about changing white space background to black?
[06:49] <dr_willis> what white space background?
[06:49] <blake> with all these whites spaces, It hurts my eyes T_T and I don't want to use high contrast..is there alternative way?
[06:50] <blake> like, opening a window, like say my folder, then on the background its all white..
[06:50] <blake> how do I change this?
[06:50] <jab416171> do any of you know of a terminal that re-wraps the text when you resize it, like the mac terminal?
[06:50] <gnomefreak> apperance?
[06:50] <dr_willis> jab416171:  never seen one
[06:51] <jab416171> dr_willis: have you seen the mac terminal?
[06:51] <Brewmaster619> that would be nice, but never seen one.
[06:51] <dr_willis> jab416171:  years and years ago...
[06:51] <jab416171> haha
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: before you got your doctorate?
[06:51] <blake> lmao
[06:51] <jab416171> most of the employees at my company use macs
[06:52] <dr_willis> Im still working on it... :) you never really master becomming a Dr of Love.
[06:52] <dr_willis> My old iMACdv only real use as as a ssh terminal. ;)
[06:52] <blake> @gnomefreak using appearance, I can't seem to find a way to alter the white space background..
[06:52] <dr_willis> blake:  theres dozens of other themes you an install and play with.. i get a lot from the webupd8 and omgubuntu sites ppas and reccomendations
[06:53] <dr_willis> blake:  i doubt if youa re going to find  any tweaking settings for it.. you will have to try out other themes
[06:53] <dr_willis> issues ihave with darker 'background' is that then in some cases you cant see text in dialogs..  like black text on a darkbackground
[06:53] <blake> yeah..I was just wishing to change this one thing. and not the entire theme I have.. :) anyways.. thanks
[06:54] <blake> well, if I have dark background, It will not hurt my eyes, and yea, I'll make text in white. :)
[06:54] <dr_willis> there was some theme i saw that you could sort of tweak all the colors.. but i forget what it was called
[06:54] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: i dont understand omgubuntu it seems to just be ads
[06:55] <gnomefreak> i need wallpapers
[06:55] <Brewmaster619> Adblock!
[06:55] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[06:55] <dr_willis> i dont see any ads
[06:55] <blake> yea you do.. You've told me that years AGo ... :) and I forgot too
[06:56] <gnomefreak> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?s=wallpaper  maybe ads is wrong word but like it has wallpaper contestd ect...
[06:56] <gnomefreak> since gnome-art died i havent foiund a good place to find them
[06:57] <dr_willis> blake:  perhaps check out --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/elegance-colors-gnome-shell-theme-gets.html
[06:57] <gnomefreak> s/foiund/found
[06:57] <dr_willis> wallpaper =>   reddit.com/r/cats    ;P
[06:57] <blake> thanks dr_willis
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> forums that have a 'show you desktop' thread is a good place, though filtering is an issue...
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> *your
[06:59] <Cub> how do i get wine to automatically open .exe files on ubuntu 12.04?
[07:00] <dr_willis> if they are executable it should do that allready
[07:00] <gnomefreak> that seems awfully dangerous to open .exe automatically
[07:00] <dr_willis> when you double click them
[07:00] <dr_willis> i find the idea nasty also. ;)
[07:00] <Cub> it opens with another program
[07:00] <dr_willis> what other program?
[07:00] <Cub> archive manager
[07:00] <dr_willis> theres a wine-preloader-app thats is ran
[07:01] <dr_willis> which archive manager?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> Cub, not the best idea ...
[07:01] <Cub> i have to right click > and select open with wine loader
[07:01] <dr_willis> i wouls suggest sticking to the right-click to run... method...
[07:01] <Cub> Just Archive Manager for Gnome
[07:01] <gnomefreak> that is teh safest way to do it
[07:01] <dr_willis> it can save you a lot of grief
[07:01] <Cub> are .exe files used on *nix anyways natively?
[07:01] <Cub> just curious
[07:01] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Cub, not natively
[07:02] <Cub> because i dont see how a windows virus embedded in a .exe could do anythign to a nix system, maybe screw up wine
[07:02] <dr_willis> they can delete all your users files in their home.. which could include stuff in your dropbox and other online accounts..
[07:03] <dr_willis> or infect stuff on them
[07:03] <dr_willis> system should be safe.. but your homework... not so much
[07:03] <Cub> that could go for nearly any program though right?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Cub, or infect your contact list ...
[07:03] <Cub> hmm okay yeah
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Cub, definitely could infect your .pdf's
[07:04] <dr_willis> it could infect your Cat Pictures!
[07:04] <Cub> my kitty pictures :(
[07:04]  * gnomefreak watched puppy bowl9 today :) they were so cute
[07:05]  * gnomefreak smoke
[07:05] <dr_willis> with lots of 'holding'
[07:07] <blake> i wonder how old is willis &_&
[07:08] <dr_willis> get off my lawn! ;)
[07:08] <dr_willis> In my High school days - we had C64's for compute class..  and in college i had Fortran Programing classes
[07:08] <caribou> damn kids
[07:08] <Cub> i heard linux was hard as heck to understand.. i just gave my mom my old computer (with ubuntu 12.04) on it....she has been using it an hour and is gettng better at it.. enjoying it.