[12:35] <yofel> 'couple corrections
[12:35] <yofel> The KCI master server is hosted on the bytemark server today which was arranged by Rick
[12:36] <yofel> Linode is used for some dev builds, and hosts one of the KCI slaves - and really does most of the jobs for the CI
[12:37] <yofel> I have pondered setting up our own builds, but as I'm not too happy with any existent replacement that currently exists
[12:38] <yofel> - Neon does it's own builds, but has no dedicated build scheduler and just uses jenkins. Meaning nobody can do any manual uploads (which is both good and bad). Aptly is something I would use for repository management as well though
[12:39] <yofel> - I don't know of any debian-esque build schedulers that have any kind of API that jenkins could talk to. At least I know that wanna-build and debile don't have any (i.e. we need to write that ourselves, which would be a doable amount of work)
[12:40] <yofel> - OBS as hosted by OpenSuse allowes builds for Ubuntu, but not the development release when I checked last, so is kind of useless for our use case.
[12:40] <yofel> you *can* host it yourself though, so someone might want to take a look at that
[12:41] <yofel> and IIRC ximion was working on some kind of build system himself, though I haven't heard any news regarding that, so maybe he abandoned it
[12:42] <yofel> as Rik said, there *are* solutions to our problems, but I'm not conviced that the amount of effort we have to put in is worth it in the end
[12:43] <yofel> and any more infrastructure we create for ourselves increases the maintenance costs
[13:38] <acheronuk> yeah, thanks for all that yofel. I agree. if LP gets back to normal, while not perfect, that is a no-brainer to use
[21:38] <valorie> acheronuk: will the adjustments that wgrant offered help enough, do you think?
[21:38] <valorie> thanks for the clarification, yofel
[22:26] <ahoneybun> thanks yofel , also good to see you around again!
[22:32] <valorie> yofel: I think we all agonized about some of these choices before, when it looked like we might get not be able to be Kubuntu any more
[22:33] <valorie> we thought about new names, etc.
[22:34] <valorie> I would not like to see us independent, annoying as Ubuntu/Canonical can be, because we simply are not big enough to do what needs doing by ourselves
[22:34] <tsimonq2> We ARE Ubuntu too.
[22:34] <valorie> we are
[22:34] <tsimonq2> So we're calling ourselves annoying? :D
[22:34] <valorie> well, I know I can be
[22:34] <valorie> lol
[22:34] <wxl> in your case it makes sense @tsimonq2
[22:35] <tsimonq2> Same here, lol
[22:35] <valorie> never YOU tsimonq2
[22:35] <valorie> lol
[22:35] <tsimonq2> wxl: XD
[22:35] <valorie> neon sort of found a crack they could settle into and that's fine with me
[22:35] <valorie> I think continuing to work with them helps everybody
[22:36] <tsimonq2> "a crack they could settle into"
[22:36] <tsimonq2> lol no :)
[22:36] <valorie> between Ubuntu and KDE i mean
[22:36] <tsimonq2> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh
[22:36] <tsimonq2> idk
[22:38] <valorie> I would rather see us all still together, but neon is providing a service to plasma developers in particular
[22:38] <valorie> and that ends up helping everybody
[22:38] <valorie> all of desktop and mobile linux at least
[22:39] <valorie> sec
[23:01] <valorie> maybe not a crack -- a niche


[18:16] <blkperl> slangasek: are NFSv4 acls broken on Ubuntu? Our Solaris and RedHat clients are properly denying read access to files, but Ubuntu isn't.....
[18:20] <slangasek> um
[18:20] <slangasek> no, acls work fine
[18:20] <slangasek> maybe an idmap configuration error?
[18:39] <blkperl> slangasek: if we force nfs3, it works fine....
[18:40] <slangasek> and how are the acls being implemented?  idmapd, kerberos?
[18:40] <blkperl> zfs acls from Solaris 11 nfs server
[18:41] <slangasek> "zfs acls" EPARSE; the question is how they're represented in NFS
[18:41] <slangasek> which is up to the Solaris NFS server to map from ZFS to NFS, and should be black box to the client
[18:42] <blkperl> ok
[18:42] <blkperl> well it looks "right" when I run nfs4_getacl
[18:42]  * nibalizer hears we're arguing about nfs
[18:45] <blkperl> slangasek: and its only deny read, everything else is workign...
[18:46] <slangasek> blkperl: can you show me an example acl, and the corresponding output of getfacl for the file in question when run on the Ubuntu client?
[18:47] <blkperl> ok :)
[18:48] <nathwill> uids have to be sync'd with nfsv4
[18:49] <nathwill> if the uid/guid's are different, it will suuuuuck
[18:49] <blkperl> they are the same, via ldap
[18:49] <slangasek> no, that's what idmap is for
[18:49] <nathwill> http://i.imgur.com/3sFfTQL.gif
[18:51] <blkperl> slangasek: https://gist.github.com/blkperl/8789892
[18:51] <nathwill> we've just generally taken to setting uids/guids in the user databag in chef, which works ok.
[18:51] <blkperl> slangasek: first one is for directories, second one is for files
[18:52] <slangasek> blkperl: er, I don't see getfacl output there
[18:52] <blkperl> its the top thing
[18:52] <slangasek> no
[18:52] <slangasek> not nfs4_getfacl
[18:52] <slangasek> getfacl
[18:52] <blkperl> oh
[18:53] <blkperl> added
[18:53] <blkperl> yeah getfacl shows a different story
[18:53] <nibalizer> oh
[18:53] <nibalizer> lololol
[18:53] <nibalizer> so basicalyl we had the extended acls set right but the normal acls wrong?
[18:53] <nibalizer> that amuses me
[18:54] <blkperl> shouldn't the extended acls override the normal ones?
[18:55] <blkperl> it returns the same thing on nfs3 though
[18:55] <slangasek> hmm, really?
[18:55] <blkperl> yep
[18:55] <blkperl> so getfacl is lying
[18:55] <slangasek> no, getfacl is telling the truth
[18:55] <slangasek> :)
[18:55] <blkperl> why?
[18:56] <slangasek> all getfacl does is ask the kernel for the POSIX acl on the file
[18:56] <slangasek> so it's always "correct"
[18:56] <slangasek> if there's something screwy about how the kernel interprets the mix of posix acls and nfs4 acls, well...
[18:57] <blkperl> so bug in nfs4?
[18:57] <blkperl> or screwness anyway
[18:57] <slangasek> well, I'm not sure
[18:58] <slangasek> really, the way the acls are *meant* to be handled is that the client should tell the server which user credentials are being used for access, and the server should block if it doesn't match the acl
[18:58] <slangasek> OOI, if you mount with -oacl, does that make a difference?
[18:59] <slangasek> nfs(5):        acl / noacl    Selects whether to use the NFSACL sideband  protocol  on
[18:59] <slangasek>                       this  mount  point.   The  NFSACL sideband protocol is a
[18:59] <slangasek>                       proprietary protocol implemented in Solaris that manages
[18:59] <slangasek>                       Access  Control  Lists. NFSACL was never made a standard
[18:59] <slangasek>                       part of the NFS protocol specification.
[18:59] <blkperl> slangasek: nope, -o acl does nothing
[19:00] <slangasek> "does nothing" as in, you still get write access where you shouldn't?
[19:00] <blkperl> still read access, where I shouldn't
[19:00] <slangasek> ok
[19:01] <slangasek> wvan is the owning user of the example directory, on both client and server?  and you're testing access as another (non-root) user?
[19:02] <blkperl> wvan owns the directory on both client and server, and should be denied read access to the files in the wvan folder
[19:03] <blkperl> they wanted a "write only dropbox" created
[19:05] <slangasek> ah, denying a user read access to their own files could be a corner case
[19:05] <blkperl> :)
[19:05] <slangasek> I'd suggest verifying whether the problem is reproducible with a simpler acl requirement... like perms for a non-owning user
[19:05] <blkperl> yeah it works for non-owning user
[19:06] <blkperl> but that could be the posix or extended acls enforcing that...
[19:06] <slangasek> oh, well, then I guess you've got a kernel bug for the owning-user case
[19:06] <blkperl> how exciting....
[19:06] <slangasek> you could verify by adding an acl for a single additional user
[19:07] <blkperl> slangasek: appears to only be an issue on 12.04....
[19:07] <blkperl> works fine on 14.04
[19:08] <slangasek> ah, well then
[19:08] <nibalizer> what about giving a different user owner on the parent dircetory
[19:08] <nibalizer> then -x for the user on that directory
[19:08] <nibalizer> can you still write a file if you have +w but not -x?


[22:38] <linux_guy> wat: i used add/remove
[22:38] <wat> try that linux_guy you probably didnt install correctly
[22:38] <filthpig> Krstnsn: yes, it will install the deafult ubuntu packages. It'll get you up and running again.
[22:38] <wat> linux_guy get the installer from the vb website
[22:38] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: yes but it says its on pulseaudio
[22:38] <XolYnrac> runderwo, i need working whith .dbf files
[22:38] <shibbz_> tweak, is compiz enabled?
[22:39] <tweak> how can I tell?
[22:39] <user___> jedi06: so it would be sda (which i dont understand, because you said that it didnt work)
[22:39] <Krstnsn> filthpig, thanks.. i dont know exactly what caused it but i was unistalling all this stuff i dont want or need to lighten up. i should have done some googling or something
[22:39] <VSpike> Slart: http://pastebin.com/m6f012895
[22:39] <Slart> VSpike: if it helps you in any way I'm running 64 bit 8.10 with a nvidia 8800 with driver 177.82
[22:39] <shibbz_> tweak, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:39] <user___> jedi06: depends on how the foremost command works
[22:39] <jedi06> the command given is /dev/hda
[22:39] <alexb2283> Liantedan: had to read up a little. theoretically it looks flawless - other people don't seem to have issues (http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=117746.msg902264). you could try without ahci mode and switch the sata controller to native mode
[22:39] <Brack101> oCean_: lshw does not list my memory speed.  any others?
[22:39] <user___> jedi06: step one is creating the usb..
[22:39] <shibbz_> tweak, do that, log out and back in. that should fix it.
[22:39] <Formode> Hi All, just curious, I just discovered a "Grub 2" in synaptic, is this a working thing or?
[22:39] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: so switch it to alsa
[22:40] <tweak> ok done, i'll try logging out
[22:40] <tweak> brb
[22:40] <alexb2283> Liantedan: another idea would be,
[22:40] <Slart> VSpike: hmm.. not enough resources for operation.. are you running out of memory?
[22:40] <user___> jedi06: i suggest creating a network file system location which you can mount instead of a usb location
[22:40] <jedi06> user__ ok so how do you know is sda did you instictively know that?
[22:40] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: i can see 3 types of alsa
[22:40] <DasEI> Formode:prbly yes, ask in #grub
[22:40] <linux_guy> i have 32 bit 8.10 with my amd64 processor, i should download virtualbox for i386 right?
[22:40] <jedi06> user__ i thought of that like a shared folder on the host but you need to install guest additions and vbox tells me you cannot in livecd
[22:40] <oCean_> Brack101: it did not? In the memory section? per bank it should read something like "SODIMM Synchronous 667 MHz"
[22:41] <jsfoxton> my bluetooth still isnt connecting to my mouse even after a restart...any ideas?
[22:41] <|ntegra|> apparently you have to go into ~/.cache/sessions/ and rm -rf xfce... and reboot
[22:41] <Liantedan> alexb2283: Is I don't put the controller to AHCI, I have to supply drivers to be able to use my hdd's. The installer lists maybe a hundred drivers, and I have no clue which one to pick. And I don't want to use the fakeRAID, either.
[22:41] <Stalker72> How do I install Kubuntu using the Alternate CD?
[22:41] <alexb2283> Liantedan: to just use a plain /boot partition on /dev/sda and mirror that regularily to an identical partition (exact same size) using dd - theoretically, since /boot rarely changes you could do a manual clone (maybe per shell script on boot)
[22:41] <Krstnsn> filthpig, one of the dependencies of soemthing i uninstalled. was nautilus... haha
[22:41] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: as there are ?
[22:41] <VSpike> Slart: got 1331MB free
[22:41] <shibbz_> tweak, ?
[22:41] <oCean_> Brack101: wait, run the lshw command as "sudo"
[22:41] <shibbz_> anything change?
[22:41] <tweak> desktop effects could not be enabled is what I am told
[22:41] <shibbz_> hmm
[22:41] <shibbz_> hang on a sec tweak
[22:41] <user___> jedi06: "shared folder on the host" is not a real network file system i think, which means other could still work very well
[22:41] <joejc> whats new in jaunty?
[22:41] <runderwo> Brack101: You can also try 'dmidecode' and look for Memory device in the output
[22:41] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: HDA Intel ALC888 Digital (ALSA) , HDA Intel LAC888 Analog (ALSA), ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
[22:41] <Slart> VSpike: hmm.. it only uses about 50Mb of memory to open it for me.. perhaps it's not ordinary memory but graphics memory.. or something else
[22:41] <alexb2283> Liantedan: i'm not talking about setting it to raid mode, but to plain sata, with is "one step lower"
[22:41] <tweak> certainly thank you
[22:42] <VSpike> Slart: I'd guess graphics memory, agreed
[22:42] <DasEI> !jaunty | joejc
[22:42] <jedi06> ok user__ how do i do that make a network file
[22:42] <Spreadsheet> hi
[22:42] <shibbz_> tweak, lspci -v | grep -i vga                post in private
[22:42] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: take the first
[22:42] <VSpike> Slart: I wonder if it's trying to allocate a very large offscreen bitmap, for example?
[22:42] <user___> jedi06: btw did you say that sda worked for you?
[22:42] <Slart> VSpike: I'm not really sure how the pdf viewer does what it does..  but what you said seems reasonable
[22:42] <alexb2283> Liantedan: anyway, as i was saying. cloning it manually (including grub/the boot sector) might do the trick, in case of disk failure you would edit the boot line in grub to say /dev/sdb instead of sda
[22:42] <tobzel> how to close a "window" in irrsi? :O
[22:42] <Spreadsheet> when ever i try to use gdebi, synaptic, aptitude, etc, at the end it gives me an error messages about python-setuptool or something
[22:42] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: done
[22:42] <Slart> tobzel: /q for pm, /part for channels
[22:42] <VSpike> tobzel: /wc or /window close
[22:42] <alexb2283> tobzel: /part
[22:43] <Spreadsheet> how do i fix this?
[22:43] <jedi06> user__ i can't try that untill i can mount another external folder
[22:43] <oCean_> Brack101: there's a lot of output, so you might want to redirect to a file "sudo lshw >my_hw.txt"
[22:43] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: nosound still
[22:43] <quaal> [  269.704944]  CIFS VFS: Error 0xfffffff3 on cifs_get_inode_info in
[22:43] <quaal> lookup of /.Trash-1000/files
[22:43] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:if you rise alsamixer, card n chip correctly displayed in top of gui ?
[22:43] <jsfoxton> can anyone help me with my bluetooth mouse please??
[22:43] <user___> jedi06: alright, one moment
[22:43] <filthpig> Krstnsn: haha, that explains why it doesn't start ;)
[22:43] <quaal> why does this scroll in my virtual terminal
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Slart: nice ;)
[22:43] <Liantedan> alexb2283: I only have the option between AHCI or noAHCI. It took me hours to figure out I needed to enable AHCI to disable the fakeRAID, so I could actually install anything. But ok, I'll try unRAID'ing the /boot partition on my next install, and see what happens. Thank you for your time and help   =)
[22:43] <Spreadsheet> hello? anyone?
[22:43] <Racecar56> did wcdl get the problem solved
[22:43] <quaal> and cause my computer to not respond
[22:43] <Racecar56> nvm
[22:43] <jinja-sheep> jsfoxton:  What's wrong with your mouse?
[22:43] <Slart> ActionParsnip: huh?
[22:43] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: no =s ... the same it says
[22:44] <Racecar56> goodbye everybody and have a good time with ubuntu!
[22:44] <Slart> ActionParsnip: you disapprove of my irssi-voodoo? =)
[22:44] <stormblue> What would cause me to get this line intermittently, "ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused"
[22:44] <stormblue> "
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Slart: the /part /q thig
[22:44] <Racecar56> cya
[22:44] <DasEI> !ask > Spreadsheet
[22:44] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: hey, i  got 1 "possible" fix
[22:44] <Anonymous> When I click on a window (say Opera under xchat), the opera window doesn't move on top until I click on the Opera titlebar. Is this a Compiz setting?
[22:44] <jsfoxton> jinja it wont connect. paired nicely then when i restart ubuntu it never connects
[22:44] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: but when i run it it says something wrong with the permissions (when installing)
[22:44] <alexb2283> Liantedan: glad i could (to some extent)
[22:44]  * Doonz new laptop http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=ca&CS=cadhs1&l=en&OC=N1525PDN_UB_E
[22:44] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:?
[22:44] <Slart> Anonymous: doesn't work like that for me.. but I think that's a setting you can change.. type !ccsm for more info
[22:44] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: its some kind of update
[22:45] <user___> jedi06: hmm, the question is, how can i setup network shares, which you could repost to the channel when things have calmed down a bit, they will give you a keyword (factoid) which i dont remember at this moment
[22:45] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:what update ?
[22:45] <Anonymous> !ccsm
[22:45] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: but i get error installing (coz of permission), an alsa update (to latest versio)
[22:45] <jinja-sheep> jsfoxton:  Did you look in Bluetooth preferences / settings?  You should remove all the connection then attempt to connect again.
[22:45] <jinja-sheep> !who | jsfoxton
[22:45] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:46] <jsfoxton> !who jsfoxton
[22:46] <jsfoxton> lol
[22:46] <jedi06> user__ where would the folder exist in a network share?
[22:46] <alexb2283> mhm again: do i need consolekit on an xless server install ? anyone ?
[22:46] <stormblue> ubottu: can you explain the "!" stuff?  What does it mean?
[22:46] <jsfoxton> its me
[22:46] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[22:46] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:what shows alsamixer as s-card in it's top  ?
[22:47] <exodus_ms> stormblue: try !factoid
[22:47] <user___> jedi06: dont know sorry, no relevant experience by myself..
[22:47] <user___> !samba | jedi06
[22:47] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: .. w00ttt.. now i cant get alsamixer cmd working.. "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[22:48] <Brack101> oCean_ it no it didn't tell me the speed, just the description, ID, slot, size and width
[22:48] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:k, so driver isn't installed correctly, try the analog option again
[22:48] <hateball> krazyfingerz47: alsamixer -c 0
[22:48] <stormblue> !factoid
[22:48] <krazyfingerz47> hateball: "wrong -c argument '0'"
[22:49] <hateball> krazyfingerz47: odd, go with DasEI's advice :)
[22:49] <phenner> hi
[22:49] <phenner> modprobe capability
[22:49] <phenner> echo 'capability' >> /etc/modules
[22:49] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: same with analog
[22:49] <phenner> anyone know what i need to do with them guys?
[22:49] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[22:49] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:49] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:sudo apt-get install lshw
[22:50] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:sudo lshw | pastebinit                              <<give url here
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> phenner: gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[22:50] <phenner> that it?
[22:50] <quaal> why does this consistently scroll my other virtual terminal and bring my computer to a halt of unresponsiveness
[22:50] <quaal> [  269.704944]  CIFS VFS: Error 0xfffffff3 on cifs_get_inode_info in
[22:50] <quaal> lookup of /.Trash-1000/files
[22:50] <Peddy> I want to SSH into my Ubuntu machine from another machine, how would I do this?
[22:50] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: done
[22:50] <quaal> Peddy, by installing ssh server
[22:50] <phenner> peddy sudo apt-get openssh-server
[22:50] <Slart> Peddy: install the ssh server.. configure it.. start it
[22:50] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:url from 3rd cmd ?
[22:51] <oCean_> Brack101: did you run command "sudo" ? As user, you will not see all the information. Ran with sudo it should output detailed information on memory banks
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> phenner: and write 'capability'  without 's to the bottom of the file and press enter on the end of the line
[22:51] <phenner> gr8 thx
[22:51] <mrwes> Peddy: install openssh-server
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> phenner: save the file and exit (if its already in there, don't add it again)
[22:51] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: i dont get the question
[22:51] <Peddy> thanks quaal phenner and Slart :)
[22:51] <phenner> ok thx
[22:51] <Theaxiom> Is opera available in the repositories?
[22:51] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:sudo lshw | pastebinit
[22:51] <Peddy> and mrwes
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> phenner: that file dictates what modules are loaded at boot
[22:51] <linux_guy> wat:  i removed virtualbox ose from add/remove and downloaded the package file from virtualbox.org and I still have the same results.  Nothing under applications > system tools
[22:51] <linux_guy> virtualbox is installed, i just need to start it
[22:51] <Slart> !info opera
[22:51] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:url from trml ?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !opera
[22:52] <cweigle> Can someone explain why PCSX stopped working in intrepid? It automatically closes the video window when running
[22:52] <Theaxiom> thanks guys
[22:52] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: with  sudo lshw | pastebinit, i get - Error no arguments specified!
[22:52] <phenner> ActionParsnip: Doesn't work :s Gtk-WARNING **; Cannot open display:
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Linuturk, open term and type virtualbox
[22:52] <linux_guy> this is very strange, my wireless networks have tripled
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> phenner: or sudo nano /etc/modules
[22:53] <cweigle> oh and T.G.I.F.
[22:53] <phenner> ok
[22:53] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:sudo lshw > lsh.txt && pastebinit lsh.txt && rm lsh.txt
[22:53] <Brack101> oCean_: ran it as sudo, no speed.  It's a really old computer btw so maybe that's why
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> phenner: add the line, ctrl+x to exit, press Y to save and press enter to use the same filename
[22:53] <phenner> yep thx
[22:53] <phenner> it was already there :p
[22:53] <omaruko> how can i download music 4 my ubuntu
[22:53] <cweigle> Can someone explain why PCSX stopped working in intrepid? It automatically closes the video window when running
[22:54] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: http://pastebin.com/f520effec
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> phenner: then thats fine
[22:54] <joejc> what does ubuntu 8.04 and sabayon have in common?
[22:54] <cweigle> omaruko, that is illegal, don't ask again
[22:54] <oCean_> Brack101: that might be it. Sorry, I have no other options
[22:54] <Slart> omaruko: find somewhere to download from.. I don't think itunes runs in ubuntu unless you want to use wine
[22:54] <phenner> ActionParsnip: When I run modprobe capability it gives this: FATAL: module capability not found.
[22:54] <phenner> :S
[22:54] <cweigle> Slart, the latest itunes update doesn't work in wine
[22:54] <cweigle> I have tried
[22:54] <omaruko> :(
[22:54] <Slart> cweigle: hrmpf..thanks
[22:54] <omaruko> pl
[22:54] <omaruko> ok
[22:55] <omaruko> so how can i bring my music from windows to my ubuntu?
[22:55] <Slart> omaruko: I think amarok has some kind of music store attached to it.. very limited offerings though
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> phenner: then yuo need the package that gives that module or compile the source for the module
[22:55] <hole_> i've downloaded a new font and i dont know how to use it can/will anyone help?
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> phenner: are you sure the module name is called "capability"?
[22:55] <hole_> it is a .ttf file
[22:55] <Slart> omaruko: what music? mp3's you can just copy over.. or play where they are now..
[22:55] <phenner> yep
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !fonts
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> !font | hole_
[22:55] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:close alsamixer, then :sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[22:55] <phenner> ActionParsnip: 4) Install pure-ftpd and quota
[22:55] <phenner> First we have to make sure that the capability module is loaded in the kernel
[22:55] <phenner> modprobe capability
[22:55] <phenner> echo 'capability' >> /etc/modules
[22:55] <phenner> Then we install pureftpd and quota.
[22:55] <FloodBot1> phenner: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <hole_> thx
[22:55] <phenner> apt-get install pure-ftpd-common pure-ftpd-mysql quota quotatool
[22:56] <Slart> hole_: copy it to ~/.fonts then see if openoffice and the rest picks it up
[22:56] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:alsamixergui
[22:56] <cweigle> Songbird has a few addons you can install which allow you to access music stores through it
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > phenner
[22:56] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:card there ?
[22:56] <phenner> ok
[22:56] <hole_> k
[22:56] <StarLegend> hi all
[22:56] <Slart> !itunes
[22:56] <filthpig> I'm trying to install Ibex on a HP Compaq 6715s, it uses an AMD/ATi combo and is dual core with 1 gb of ram. However, when I boot ibex, either from a memorystick or CD, and either 32 or 64 bits, it's just so incredibly SLOW! It's like dancing tango in liquid concrete.. However if I boot with Hardy it's snappy and responsive, at least from the memory stick. I'm trying to install Ibex now, but it's just so slow that I sometimes wonder if the who
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> phenner: i dont think the module is called "capability" I think its just a guide on how to populate the modules file
[22:57] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: i get the no driver error
[22:57] <StarLegend> I need help =)
[22:57] <phenner> oh right... so what do it do?
[22:57] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: weird...
[22:57] <alexb2283> i have another good one... my udevd is trying to access /etc/udev/rules.d before dm-crypt kicks in to decrypt / - it's more of a cosmetical thing, but does someone know how to tell udev to wait ?
[22:57] <Microsux> hi
[22:57] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart  , then try again
[22:57] <michaelb> filthpig:  "dancing tango in liquid concrete" -- I like your analogies =)
[22:57] <Slart> filthpig: hmm.. any interesting error messages during boot?
[22:57] <Microsux> i have need to know my extract files problem
[22:57] <filthpig> !hi | Microsux
[22:57] <Microsux> Inappropriate ioctl for device
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> filthpig: you'll find the installed system embraces the system better. The liove cd has to be hugely generic so may run slow. If you add !bootoptions to the livecd you can improve performance
[22:57] <runderwo> filthpig: are you able to view the system monitor and see if there is anything eating 100% cpu?
[22:58] <Microsux> what dose this mean " Inappropriate ioctl for device  ?
[22:58] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: same
[22:58] <Microsux> thanks for the welcome filthpig
[22:58] <runderwo> Microsux: It's usually a problem with a driver or a program using the driver in an unexpected way.  Sometimes a version mismatch.
[22:58] <StarLegend> is there reason to Compile WINE 1.1.13 from Source or wait for *.deb realise? (sorry for my bad English)
[22:58] <tue> hello. im running tomcat5.5 on kubuntu 8.10. my problem is that System.out.println statements in servlets are not getting logged, more specifically i cannot find a catalina.out file. How can i enable logging to catalina.out?
[22:58] <Slart> filthpig: oh.. sorry.. yes.. the live cd can be a bit slow.. after all.. it uses much of that memory for creating a ram disk to run from
[22:59] <runderwo> Microsux: what are you extracting files to?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> StarLegend: if the current wine doesnt do all you need then theres no reason to upgrade
[22:59] <Microsux> runderwo, a driver problem ? what kind of driver could be causing problems with file extraction ?
[22:59] <Microsux> runderwo, desktop
[22:59] <filthpig> ActionParsnip: what I find weird is that even from memory stick ibex is hilariously slow, while hardy from the exact same memstick works ~ as good as an installed system..
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !info wine
[22:59] <flower> which app in ubuntu should I  install to get that default printer admin tool?
[22:59] <gofg> I plugged in a volume and I don't know what it's named, so I don't know how to mount it.
[22:59] <gofg> it's a standard external drive.
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> filthpig: check config of your ibex
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> filthpig: if you prefer hardy, stick with it. Its LTS so is still supported
[23:00] <cweigle>                                                                                /ping gofg
[23:00] <cweigle> oops
[23:00] <gofg> hey it's ActionParsnip again :D Hey ActionParsnip, I remember what you said earlier, but I can't quite remember how you told it what to mount
[23:00] <StarLegend> ActionParsnip: But if I compile wine in my Hardware, is there a good effect?
[23:00] <Slart> gofg: run this in a  terminal, "tail -f /var/log/syslog".. then connect your drive and see what the log says about it
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> StarLegend: you can give the compile some options which may give better performance
[23:00] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: maybe i must try reinstalling, how?
[23:00] <linux_guy> virtualbox-ose is installed, how can i start it?  it is NOT under apps>sys tools
[23:00] <runderwo> Microsux: try checking dmesg after it fails.
[23:01] <tasos> i have a problem with multiple ubuntu 21-23-24-25 with updates. I think that in my system i have so much operating systems that fill my disk.How can i have in grub only the last update Ubuntu?
[23:01] <Microsux> whats dmesg?
[23:01] <filthpig> ActionParsnip: well the comp is not for me, and I actually do want people to use ibex mainly because of the vastly improved networkmanager..  Thank's
[23:01] <Microsux> oCean_, extract a .rar file
[23:01] <linux_guy> thanks
[23:01] <Slart> linux_guy: I wouldn't go so far.. we've only just met.. =)
[23:01] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:sudo modprobe -v sound                 ,output ?
[23:01] <hole_> ok one more thing, how can i change the konversation font
[23:01] <gofg> Slart, apparently nothing. When I plug it in it says that I don't have permission.
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> filthpig: ive seen a lot of issues in here with nm-applpet, i always advise wifi-radar
[23:02] <oCean_> Microsux: using what command?
[23:02] <Sal_> can anyone tell me what will happen if i do: kill -HUP
[23:02] <Microsux> i dont know how to use command
[23:02] <hole_> nevermind
[23:02] <Microsux> i just right click
[23:02] <linux_guy> slart:  lol.  my book IS about 8.04 was it under sys tools for 8.04?
[23:02] <Microsux> and press extract here
[23:02] <Slart> gofg: that's all?.. hang on.. let me show you what it says when I plug in my external drive
[23:02] <Slart> linux_guy: yes.. I think it was moved for 8.10
[23:02] <Stalker72> When I try to install Kubuntu using the Alternative CD, at the CD-ROM step, I have to manually write something. The default is "/dev/cdrom". What do I do? My CD-ROM is SATA and it's very new (fresh PC build).
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Microsux: rar x <rar file name here>
[23:02] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: "insmod /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/kernel/sound/oss/sound.ko "
[23:02] <runderwo> Microsux: after you get that error message, go to a terminal and type 'dmesg'.  See what the errors at the end are.
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Microsux: sorry, unrar x <rar file>
[23:03] <Microsux> ok thank you, one sec
[23:03] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:gksudo  gedit /etc/modules            ,insert line : snd_hda_intel
[23:03] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:save the file
[23:03] <filthpig> runderwo: it takes forever to get sysmon up and running, but now I have it. The only thing using cpu now is ubiquity and sysman. But the system is slow from the get go.
[23:03] <Slart> gofg: here's what gets printed when I connect my external drive.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/105723/
[23:04] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: now?
[23:04] <runderwo> filthpig: but it's close to 100% idle?
[23:04] <Szadek> hello everybody , does anybody know what frontend cheese webcam use ?? here it has too much brightness, i adjusted mplayer and totem to use colors right but cheese does not accpet
[23:04] <Stalker72> When I try to install Kubuntu using the Alternative CD, at the CD-ROM step, I have to manually write something. The default is "/dev/cdrom". What do I do? My CD-ROM is SATA and it's very new (fresh PC build).
[23:04] <gofg> Slart, I got nothing like that. All I have in that log from the past hour is some stuff about my wlan
[23:05] <VSpike> Slart: http://pastebin.com/m1fd10e08
[23:05] <Microsux> runderwo, i type dmesg and theres a shit load of stuff come up
[23:05] <filthpig> runderwo: well, it's dual core, and one of the cpus are 80-90, while the other is ~30
[23:05] <ardchoille> Stalker72: ask in #kubuntu
[23:05] <sWitch> can i run dx10 games using wine ?
[23:05] <gofg> oh wait
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Microsux: try: dmesg | less
[23:05] <gofg> Slart, lsusb can see it
[23:05] <gofg> what do I do from here?
[23:05] <Stalker72> ardchoille: ok
[23:05] <Slart> gofg: so.. nothing at all when you connect it??? that's very odd
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | sWitch
[23:05] <filthpig> runderwo: and that seems to be with both 32 and 64 bit
[23:05] <nightrid3r> sWitch: no
[23:05] <VSpike> Slart: XCreatePixmap (dpy=0x695240, d=67109133, width=35995, height=2122, depth=24) at ../../src/CrPixmap.c:60
[23:05] <cweigle> I have a terminal question
[23:06] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: though it should be already : sudo apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-base alsa-oss
[23:06] <VSpike> Slart: big old bitmap, that :)
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> !ask | cweigle
[23:06] <runderwo> Microsux: I'm only interested what's at the end.
[23:06] <sWitch> nvm dx10 is too slow
[23:06] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: sudo reboot
[23:06] <runderwo> filthpig: what process is using all that CPU?
[23:06] <oCean_> cweigle: terminal, as in "final" ? :)
[23:06] <filthpig> sWitch: dx10 support is still very experimental in wine, and you probably won't get anything working with it
[23:06] <runderwo> filthpig: Sort the processes by CPU usage.
[23:06] <Solanth> Holy shit
[23:06] <cweigle> Why does it only say continue Y/n if the file is in mb instead of kb
[23:06] <Slart> VSpike: yup.. but.. does it create it in videomemory? I thought it could do that in system memory..
[23:06] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:06] <VSpike> Slart: not sure, tbh
[23:06] <Slart> VSpike: seems kind of wasteful to use my expensive graphics memory for huuugge bitmaps of pdfs
[23:07] <Microsux> runderwo, shall I pase it somewhere ?
[23:07] <Microsux> *paste
[23:07] <gofg> cweigle, that was a decision made by the guys who made apt
[23:07] <filthpig> runderwo: I did, and ubiquity used ~30% and sys.man. ~30%... nothing else used cpu
[23:07] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: sudo reboot
[23:07] <runderwo> Microsux: /msg me the last 5 lines
[23:07] <cweigle> ok
[23:07] <runderwo> filthpig: That still seems quite high for idle, but it should not be pegged out.  Weird.
[23:07] <linux_guy> slart:  when i go under apps>acc virtualbox ose will not start
[23:08] <filthpig> runderwo: yes, the cpu fan runs close to max speed all the time... not good.
[23:08] <cweigle> Well since the only real question I have seems to be unknown I'm gone
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux_guy open term and type virtualbox
[23:08] <jedi06> anyone experience with vbox and getting guest additions installed in a livecd environment?
[23:08] <cweigle> Peace, and may we all fix Bug #1 one day
[23:09] <Slart> linux_guy: hmm.. ok.. have you installed the kernel module for it?
[23:09] <filthpig> runderwo: I'm installing ibex 64 bit right now, so we'll just see how it works out after install.. but I can tell you this install is not gonna take 20 mins, more like 2 hrs :(
[23:09] <linux_guy> slart: no
[23:09] <lotuspsychje> how can i disable dcc chat auto reconnect on xchat irc
[23:09] <linux_guy> jack: it asks me to reinstall
[23:09] <Slart> linux_guy: try running it from a terminal.. see what kind of error messages you get
[23:09] <linux_guy> slart:  could not find vbox please reinstall
[23:10] <Gerinych> is there something like kgrubeditor for gnome?
[23:10] <linux_guy> could not find virtualbox installation*
[23:10] <jedi06> anyone experience with vbox and getting guest additions installed in a livecd environment or setting up some external folder residing on a network or host?
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> linux_guy, Are you typing what I said in term?  and it says to reinstall?
[23:10] <Netham46> My apache server stopped working, when I have top open when I request a page, I get "miniserv <defunct>" showing up, anyone know what may be causing this?
[23:10] <lotuspsychje> linux_guy the package is called virtualbox-ose
[23:11] <Netham46> This is inside of a VMWare VM on Win2k3.
[23:11] <linux_guy> jack i typed in virtualbox and got "could not find virtualbox installation, please reinstall"
[23:11] <jinja-sheep> jedi06:  What is it that you're trying to do?
[23:11] <Slart> linux_guy: what did you run to start it?
[23:11] <krazyfingerz47> GasEI: ok now i dont get the error
[23:12] <jedi06> jinja-sheep i am trying to follow this tutorial http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=virtualbox+network+folder+livecd   the problem is i cannot moust a usb i'm in vbox and i would need to install guest additions to at least get to a shared folder
[23:12] <linux_guy> i got it from add/remove AND from virtualbox.org (deb package)
[23:12] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:soundcard displayed correctly ?
[23:12] <lotuspsychje> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[23:12] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: yes
[23:13] <Slart> linux_guy: did you reboot after you installed virtualbox?
[23:13] <linux_guy> slart:  i clicked apps>accs>virtualbox-ose
[23:13] <linux_guy> i'll try another restart
[23:13] <jinja-sheep> jedi06 -- You use virtualbox or virtualbox-ose ?
[23:13] <Slart> linux_guy: I think you need to reboot to make the kernel module load properly
[23:13] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:click on the speaker icons above the sliders in alsamixers (unmute), have sound !
[23:13] <jedi06> jinja-sheep well i don't pay for it so its probably ose
[23:14] <lotuspsychje> any1 knows howto disable dcc-chat auto reconnect on xchat?
[23:14] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:just to be sure, give url from : pastebinit /proc/asound/cards
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> lotuspsychje, /join #Xchat if you dont get an answer here
[23:14] <krazyfingerz47> http://pastebin.com/f7b89b70e
[23:14] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx jack
[23:14] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: http://pastebin.com/f7b89b70e
[23:15] <nine11> Hello, I need help installing Belkin wireless usb fsd705e adapter, make keeps failing with 2 errors.
[23:15] <DasEI> !yay | krazyfingerz47
[23:15] <william> Hey all. I've set up a Samba server and I'm trying to share some of the folders, but it keeps throwing me the error "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share"path /home/william/BACKUP as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own. Been looking around for the right command but can't seem to find, any ideas?
[23:15] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: why i cant change/move the level of the headset sound?, and its all the way down
[23:15] <Netham46> My apache server stopped working, when I have top open when I request a page, I get "miniserv <defunct>" showing up, anyone know what may be causing this? The PC is in VMware on a Win2k3 host.
[23:16] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:just a hint: rise pcm, too
[23:16] <Neremor> i'm trying to get a dvd running. I already added medibuntu to my package-source list and installed libdvdcss2. But i can't play dvds, neither in vlc nor in kaffeine...
[23:16] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: thanks ^^ lol but im trying with music and still nosound =s
[23:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lotuspsychje, Look at: http://t0x.in/xchatsetvars.html
[23:16] <Neremor> any ideas why?
[23:16] <Slart> Neremor: there's more than just installing libdvdcss.. there is a command line to run too
[23:16] <Slart> !dvd | Neremor
[23:16] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: the headset level cant edit it
[23:16] <Neremor> i did run this command line
[23:16] <Neremor> and nothing changed
[23:17] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:where is it connected ? no sound at all ? icons green ?
[23:17] <lotuspsychje> courpse|dead i looked at those, turned all options to 0 but dcc chat keeps reconnecting on main chat then
[23:17] <Slart> Neremor: hmm.. then I don't really know.. that was all it took to get my dvd's playing
[23:17] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Then i cant help you, have you asked in #xchat ?
[23:17] <lotuspsychje> im in it tnx
[23:18] <jedi06> anyone can help me setup a network folder so both my host and guest os can access them
[23:18] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: nosound at all, yes on the green one, in XP it works fine
[23:18] <Neremor> ok thanks anyway
[23:18] <Gerinych> is there something like kgrubeditor for gnome?
[23:18] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:what do you use for input ? mp3 ?
[23:19] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: now im trying with some youtube vids
[23:19] <DasEI> Gerinych:kate or gedit
[23:19] <hellhound_> how can I downgrade my flash in Ubuntu?  I want to go back to Flash 9
[23:19] <filthpig> hellhound_: why do you want that?
[23:20] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:just get a free mp3 from music.donload.com and play with amarok, to have a visual control
[23:20] <DasEI> *down
[23:20] <Gerinych> DasEI: those are text editors, i'm looking for something that can customize my grub bootloader
[23:20] <DasEI> Gerinych:the can, commandline ? nano or pico
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Gerinych, Like background graphic etc?
[23:20] <hellhound_> filthpig, because 10.x is not working in fullscreen mode and after googling for sometime it seems that 9.x works best with full screen
[23:20] <filthpig> hellhound_: anyway, sudo apt-get remove flashplayer-nonfree is what you should do. then you'll have to fetch FP9 from adobe's homepage and install that
[23:21] <Gerinych> jack_sparrow: yeah, something like that
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Gerinych, I have a short tutorial I made up for grub splash, but it isnt a program that does it for you
[23:21] <Gerinych> jack_sparrow: that'll do, thanks
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Gerinych, Hold on
[23:22] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: same with mp3 files
[23:22] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: nosound at all
[23:23] <Anacranom> what is the full kernel version that is packaged in the 8.10 cd?
[23:23] <hellhound_> filthpig, i have uninstalled the old version and I downloaded the archive 9.x version.. i tried running "sudo ./flashplayer-installer" and it asks for the installation path of Mozilla but I do not know what to put.  I tried /usr/lib/mozilla and /home/hellhound/.mozilla but both return "Warning: Please enter a valid installation path"
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Gerinych, http://paste.ubuntu.com/105727/
[23:23] <Slart> !info linux-generic
[23:23] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:you can see the file playing (amarok), pcm and master are up and not muted, you connected to the output of s-card ?? amarok rised volume, too ?
[23:23] <Gerinych> jack_sparrow: alright, thanks
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:24] <filthpig> hellhound_: try /usr/lib/firefox
[23:24] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: i dont play it with amarok, should i?
[23:25] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:just sth to have visual control
[23:25] <|signornessuno|> !list
[23:25] <hellhound_> filthpig, i got the same warning
[23:25] <philippe> gpe
[23:25] <|signornessuno|> !list
[23:25] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: i tried with alsaplayer, totem and vlc
[23:26] <|signornessuno|> sorry, how can i get a list?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> krazyfingerz47: run lspci and one line will identify your soundcard, you can websearch the card and find out how to install it
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> |signornessuno|: list of what?
[23:26] <Bax> using 8.10 on an ATI card.  Something weird is happening with my windows.  Every time I open a program like firefox or xchat, the window takes up the top half of the screen when maximized.  Anybody know how I can fix the maximum window size setting?
[23:26] <|signornessuno|> list of file to dowload from irc
[23:27] <Slart> |signornessuno|: there are no files to download here
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> |signornessuno|, We dont serve files
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> |signornessuno|, What can we  help you with
[23:27] <|signornessuno|> ok thanks
[23:27] <Ivis> omg guys you must see experiment with kernel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5737qtNpFc
[23:27] <rdancer> The input of arbitrary Unicode characters doesn't work -- is there an alternative way?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey#Unicode%20composition
[23:27] <filthpig> hellhound_: I dont have a good answer for you, then. /usr/lib/mozilla should be the correct option
[23:28] <Slart> Ivis: not here..
[23:28] <jedi06> i created folder in windows xp make it check marked share thes folder on the network and allow network user to change files now how do i access it in livecd?
[23:28] <druntar> Slart!!!
[23:28] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: please do something bad to Ivis
[23:28] <Slart> druntar: hey again
[23:28] <jedi06> i have the ip address of the computer
[23:28] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: the Headphone volume is all the way down and cant move it how can i fix that?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> jedi06: providing the livecd has picked up you network adapter: smb://servername/sharename in you file browser
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Ivis,  What are you doing..
[23:29] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: I'm back.  Sorry.  Got a company.
[23:29] <druntar> Hey, what channel do I need to be in to get advice on linux games?
[23:29] <Ivis> rick and roll
[23:29] <druntar> I'm bored and what something to do.
[23:29] <Ivis> :D
[23:29] <pheeror> hi, why is totem the default dvd player when it can't play dvd? :-)
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> druntar: you could try getting apt-build running on your system, can make apps run a little slicker
[23:29] <Phreakazoid> it can if you get the codecs
[23:29] <kitche> pheeror: because it can play dvd's
[23:30] <jedi06> ActionParsnip how do i know if 1 it picked up the network addapter and 2 what is the file browser in livecd it is all command line
[23:30] <CyberGabber> jedi06: Menu : Places > Network, than browse 'Windows Network'...
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> pheeror: it can if yiou have dvd codecs
[23:30] <jedi06> it is all command line stuff cybergabber
[23:30] <Slart> druntar: you can ask here, I guess.. or the offtopic channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:30] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: You're trying to share a folder between two machines?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> pheeror: any lpayer can play anything with codecs
[23:30] <omaruko> !ntfs
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> jedi06: nope, its gui
[23:30] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:does the s-card have a separate headphone jack ?
[23:30] <hellhound_> filthpig, ah hah it was /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5
[23:30] <jedi06> jinja-sheep well it is the same machine but they think they are different
[23:30] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: yes
[23:30] <omaruko> !fuse
[23:31] <pheeror> ActionParsnip, kitche:  gstreamer is pretty bad when it comes to dvd menus
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> jedi06: if its on the same local machine, you dont have to share it, just mount it with ntfs-3g
[23:31] <Anacranom> Jack_Sparrow, are you running 8.10 and if so what is the kernel version that it has?
[23:31] <pheeror> i.e. there are no codecs for it in ubuntu
[23:31] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: You're trying to create a folder (on linux) that your Windows (on VirtualBox) can access to... ?
[23:31] <jedi06> ActionParsnip I downloaded this ubuntu-recovery-remix are you saying install something else that has a gui
[23:31] <albuntu> can anyone tell me what file do i have to edit for editing the gnome-panel? for example how to change gnome panel position from top to bottom but without using gui. from terminal. thank you
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> pheeror: it can still play it is the fact though
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> pheeror: bad or not is down to config
[23:31] <drash> pheeror: totem-xine does dvd menus just fine (the codec remark still stands though)
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Anacranom, Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-9-generic      on this one
[23:32] <jedi06> jinja-sheep i created the folder in windows that i will need to save stuff to from linux
[23:32] <pheeror> ActionParsnip: rather down to code ;-)
[23:32] <cweigle> Does anyone know of a music composition program for linux that is reminiscent of Finale or Cakewalk?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> pheeror: ive had no issues with it. I personally use mplayer
[23:32] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: What are you running?  And what is VirtualBox running?  (Host/Guest0.
[23:32] <Anacranom> Jack_Sparrow, you didnt compie that- it came with it, right?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> cweigle: lmms maybe?
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[23:32] <Anacranom> *compile
[23:33] <cweigle> Thank you Parsnip, I will check and see if it is what I'm looking for, if not I'll come back and see if something else is available
[23:33] <jedi06> I am running virtual-box 2.1.0 free version.  Host XP/ Guest Ubuntu 8.10
[23:33] <pheeror> drash: so let's rephrase it for zealots: Why is a player that uses a gstreamer the default dvd player while they is not gstreamer dvd codec in ubuntu
[23:33] <pheeror> there
[23:34] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:I#am not sure about that, maybe there is a setting system>preferences sound for which channels to show up, else go to use general output
[23:34] <cweigle> That doesn't make sense pheror
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> jedi06: then you access it via your XP IP address / share name
[23:34] <kitche> pheeror: ubuntu by default can't use the dvd codec you have to install it using another repo
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> jedi06: the VM will be on a 10.x.x.x network
[23:34] <pheeror> kitche: and do you have the name of the package?
[23:34] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: Okay.  My situation is opposite.  I think it is similar.  First, you set up.  On VirtualBox, do you see (Devices --> Shared Folders -->)?  Set that to point to your folder.
[23:34] <druntar> kitche I thought dvd playback was in the restricted extras package?
[23:35] <drash> pheeror: personally i stepped back from gstreamer since i tried totem-xine .. but there's some config options to consider as well
[23:35] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: it might be you got to re-install alsamixer, as alsa couldn't find the card before an chip is now correctly found
[23:35] <kitche> pheeror: yes libdvdcss2(3) it could be 3 by now
[23:35] <pheeror> kitche: is it a gstreamer plugin?
[23:35] <nickrud> !libdvdcss
[23:35] <jester7> anyone here familiar with apache?  especially deciphering the logs
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !info libdvdcss
[23:35] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: maybe.. i've tried so many different things i dont know what to do now
[23:35] <jedi06> ok with the smb://servername/sharename  jinja-sheep
[23:35] <kitche> druntar: it is but I doubt that ubuntu has libdvdcss2(3) in it since it can be illegal in some countries
[23:36] <george> hi
[23:36] <G1ZmO> evenin
[23:36] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: Turn off the sharing feature on the folder.
[23:36] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: have you got sound on the regular output ?
[23:36] <derferman> Ok, I am currently running 8.10 on an self built machine. I recently installed a new hard drive, and now the computer will randomly shut down. But I run the computer as a server, so I am not really sure what is happening when it dies
[23:36] <jedi06> jinja-sheep that seems counter productive
[23:36] <nickrud> druntar, see the ubottu provided link above to get css'd dvd's to play in totem. Ubuntu doesn't provide it in any repo
[23:36] <pheeror> btw. of course, I have libdvdcss and regionset installed and I can play dvd without problems but not using totem-gstreamer
[23:36] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: no, i've never heard anything on this OS
[23:36] <druntar> I already can play dvds
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> derferman: check system logs
[23:37] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: Not if you're running both OS on a same machine.
[23:37] <nickrud> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | pheeror
[23:37] <jedi06> jinja-sheep they think they are on different don't they ok so what do I do after that
[23:38] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: Let me find a link that can explain everything for you.
[23:38] <al__> hey, can anyone help me setup my wacom tablet?
[23:38] <pheeror> nickrud, kitche, ActionParsnip, drash: http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2008/08/04/gstreamer-dvd-support/
[23:38] <jinja-sheep> al__: Plug in and try it.  It worked for my friend.
[23:38] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: sudo apt-get remove --purge alsamixergui alsa-utils alsa-oss alsa-base
[23:38] <tagsoup> glx-gears doesn't work... hwo do i know what nvidia-glx driver to install?  It seems there is like 7 of them...
[23:38] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui alsa-utils alsa-oss alsa-base
[23:38] <Gerinych> you know that thing on your taskbar where it says your name and an icon and when you click on it it gives you a lot of options, like log off, shut down? well, mine's gone and i dont know how to restore it
[23:38] <ironfoot_495> Hello  I have a problem with pages and terminal go to the desk top instead of the botom of the screen?
[23:38] <al__> its a tablet laptop, I sorta dont know how to turn it on
[23:39] <ironfoot_495> Can I get some ideas on how to fix this?
[23:39] <G1ZmO> wonder if someone can help me. I have ubuntu desktop on this laptop and trying to access shared folders on a win 2003 server. I can connect to shared folders with the "Connect to server" option as long as the shares have no spaces in the names. how do I connect to those with spaces? e.g. \\servername\pauls docs ?
[23:39] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: for usual, a desktop has three audio jacks : line, mic and out at the back and maybe a front panel connected to the board
[23:39] <Anacranom> can anyone tell me what channel i could ask this question-> is there a reason why i shouldn't compile kernel 2.6.27-9-generic  on ubuntu 8.04 with kernel 2.6.24~ ?
[23:39] <Slart> Gerinych: it's called fast user switch applet
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> pheeror: mplayer plays dvds fine
[23:39] <Slart> Gerinych: just right click on the panel, select Add and find it
[23:40] <nickrud> pheeror, the gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad[-multiverse] packages will be installed by ubuntu-restricted-extras I info'd you about above
[23:40] <jinja-sheep> al__: Plug the tablet in.  And write something.   I think they test the kernel with the different apps so it all works.. I'm not sure if the newer kernel behaves just the same as the original on in every way.. I don't know of any specific software that breaks on the newer kernel though
[23:41] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: coz it works on Xp
[23:41] <Guest_571nukisen> When i am booting ubuntu i got a blank screen
[23:41] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: Meanwhile, try your luck in #vbox
[23:41] <al__> jinja, the problem is, there is nothing to plug in, the tablet is the monitor itself, and when I try to write on it, nothing
[23:41] <derferman> Hmm, what does --MARK-- mean in the syslog?
[23:42] <Slart> Gerinych: nah.. don't be to hard on yourself =)
[23:42] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: done, removes, and installed
[23:42] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: done, removed*, and installed
[23:42] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: so is there a separate headphone or do you use the standard out ?
[23:42] <drash> derferman: that translates as 'nothing to report'
[23:42] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: i use the standard out
[23:42] <Anacranom> thatnk you Slart , do you a know a channel that would know?
[23:42] <jinja-sheep> !tab | al__
[23:42] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: so it should work then
[23:42] <jinja-sheep> al__: Did you install the wacom-tool?  Try "sudo aptitude search wacom"
[23:43] <Slart> Anacranom: no idea really.. I would guess an ubuntu channel of some sorts since the kernel has to play nice with the other ubuntu packages..
[23:43] <jinja-sheep> al__: Once you find the said package -- use "sudo aptitude install <xyzpackage>"
[23:43] <MatBoy> I'm looking for a bash script that asks me to change the password for 2 known users that I set in the script... I'm playing with bash ones, but can't find out really
[23:43] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: no it doesnt :S
[23:43] <Guest_571nukisen> Wich program in Ubuntu is best for Ja´va compiling
[23:43] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: in alsamixer above the volume sliders the speaker icons have to bee green (clickable)
[23:43] <jedi06> jinja-sheep i have
[23:43] <Slart> derferman: I'm not quite sure.. but I think it's your computers way of letting you know that nothing new has happened
[23:43] <al__> jinja-sheep, oh ya, thats installed, doesnt help, I dont know how to turn it on
[23:43] <Anacranom> or if there's a way i could back up my system (like ghost image clone) before i do? Slart
[23:44] <kitche> Guest_571nukisen: umm maybe the java-jdk
[23:44] <the_rainbow> hello guys
[23:44] <Slart> derferman: but it still feels it has to put something in the log.. so it does a --MARK--
[23:44] <al__> jinja-sheep, | test?
[23:44] <the_rainbow> what's the best way to test the RW permissions for all users in bash?
[23:44] <Guest_571nukisen> :) i have tried JDK
[23:44] <the_rainbow> if (ls -l /my/file | grep rw-rw-rw), is it ok?
[23:44] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: yes its green, and all the way up
[23:44] <Slart> Anacranom: if you compile a new kernel you can always use the older kernel when you boot.. that's what the grub menu is all about
[23:44] <G1ZmO> wonder if someone can help me. I have ubuntu desktop on this laptop and trying to access shared folders on a win 2003 server. I can connect to shared folders with the "Connect to server" option as long as the shares have no spaces in the names. how do I connect to those with spaces? e.g. "\\servername\pauls docs" ?
[23:44] <Guest_571nukisen> It works fine but is nt that user friendly for me
[23:44] <Slart> Anacranom: just don't remove the older kernels
[23:44] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:40% is enough, save the phones :D
[23:45] <Guest_571nukisen> I am a little stupid about programming yet :)
[23:45] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: lol ^^
[23:45] <jinja-sheep> al__: Good.  I got your message.  I'm looking at... forums -- You might have luck with Ubuntu-Mobile.  I'll find a link.  Still looking.
[23:45] <douglasjam> hi
[23:45] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:and again, both, digital and audio don't work ?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> G1ZmO: use \\servername\pauls/ docs
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> G1ZmO: i'd reshare the folder personally
[23:45] <Slart> derferman: here's a thread about it.. and a way to turn it off if you want to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513850
[23:45] <jinja-sheep> al__: Is this what you're looking for -- http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[23:45] <Anacranom> Slart, ok-- duhhh, sorry, been a long day compiling and watching stuff either break or get fixed on a diff distro, thanks again
[23:45] <jinja-sheep> al__: Finger friendly, touch driven.
[23:46] <Slart> Anacranom: no worries.. happy to help
[23:46] <G1ZmO> thanks ActionParsnip
[23:46] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: no:s, i've tried all the types in the list
[23:46] <G1ZmO> trying that
[23:46] <Bax> weird, I seemed to have fixed my windows maximization issue after fiddling with the screen settings, even though in the end I came full circle to my original settings.  Guess it was the ati card hiccuping.
[23:46] <al__> jinja-sheep,  | would that be a synaptic meta pkg?
[23:46] <p4_> is there a channel to discuss permissions please? I need some help with permissions. I have read the community documentation
[23:46] <druntar> Hey Slart were you here last night when linux_freak screwed up his partition?
[23:46] <jedi06> ok i'm trying to install ntsf-3g
[23:46] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:47] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47 pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:47] <Anacranom> Slart, 1 last thing, if i do have to use older kernel, can i simply edit the menu.lst to not have that option?
[23:47] <Slart> druntar: yup..I think you told me about that
[23:47] <tIRC> SrcEdit
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> G1ZmO: you can also use smb://severname in nautilus
[23:47] <druntar> Slart: wasn't sure if you were around for the aftermath of that one or not.
[23:47] <Slart> Anacranom: you can edit the menu.lst to only show the kernels you want.. but read the grub man page.. it has all the info
[23:47] <jinja-sheep> al__: Possible.  I wouldn't know as I never played with the monitor tablet, but rather the wacom tablet for drawing / artist.
[23:47] <G1ZmO> yes ActionParsnip I'm coming to the conclusion that I'd be better resharing the folders
[23:47] <Anacranom> ActionParsnip, is it // or /// ?
[23:48] <Slart> druntar: the last I heard was you getting yelled at for killing her/her system
[23:48] <Anacranom> cool, thanks Slart
[23:48] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: it doesnt response to that cmd
[23:48] <al__> jinja-sheep,  | ahhhh
[23:49] <druntar> Slart: Pretty much, but I KNOW I was giving clear and concise instructions. I'm thinking either I was dealing with a complete moron, or they were just screwing with me.
[23:49] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:          pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:50] <al__> jinja-sheep | bout to install now, Thank you for all the help
[23:50] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: nothing, it seems like its processing the info but i get no response
[23:50] <jedi06> ActionParsnip  how do i setup the ntsf-3g?
[23:50] <Slart> druntar: mm.. that's how I understood it from what you said, yes
[23:50] <DasEI> druntar: logging can savew your life !;-)
[23:50] <gnutron> jedi06: install ntfs-config with it
[23:50] <jinja-sheep> al__: I'm glad to guide you to somewhere. :)
[23:50] <jedi06> i put a folder on my windows xp desktop not how to i point to that location
[23:50] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: I found something -- http://www.giannistsakiris.com/index.php/2008/04/09/virtualbox-access-windows-host-shared-folders-from-ubuntu-guest/
[23:51] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:          gedit  /var/log/syslog
[23:51] <p4_> I just don't get it, if a user is a part of a group, and I've used "sudo chown -R :groupname /path" why can't the user even read folders inside the path?
[23:51] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47:    file there ?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | jedi06
[23:51] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: yes, now i realize that its too big, let me try again
[23:51] <jedi06> jinja-sheep i cannot install guest additions from livecd
[23:51] <Slart> p4_: chown only changes which group owns it.. it says nothing about what the permissions on the files are
[23:52] <DasEI> !paste | krazyfingerz47
[23:52] <Netham46> "caught SIGWINCH, shutting down gracefully "  I have alot of those in my apache config, and it's no longer serving webpages, anyone know why?
[23:52] <Anacranom> p4_, and its sudo chown -R <user>:groupname /path
[23:52] <gnutron> p4_: its chown user:group
[23:52] <Slart> p4_: you can have files not even the owner can read
[23:52] <druntar> DasEI: well it was the first time I actually knew the answer to someones question. I tried my best to be patient and painstakenly explained every little step. If nothing else I learned to log any time I help someone, and to always keep it in the main channel. Yes, I was dumb enough to take it to a private chat.
[23:52] <jinja-sheep> jedi06: You can download the guest addition from the website and place it in the correct directory.
[23:52] <Guest_571nukisen> I must be one of the most stupido in the north
[23:52] <gsc> When a you to open a file but a suitable app is not bounded to it, you get nautilius with the home dir. There is little chance to find a suitable app there. Is it possible to get the menu instead like in KDE?
[23:52] <rodolfo> i would test my skype. can anyone help me?
[23:53] <p4_> I see, but I need for more than one user to be able to access the files!
[23:53] <Guest_571nukisen> I hav downloaded Ubuntu 32 And forgot where i saved it  :S
[23:53] <druntar> rodolfo: test your skype how?
[23:53] <p4_> and this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[23:53] <p4_> indicates you can leave the username blank and just go :groupname
[23:53] <Slart> p4_: what are the permissions on the files?
[23:53] <rodolfo> druntar: i want to test my calls
[23:53] <Anacranom> p4_, proll a typo
[23:53] <Anacranom> y
[23:54] <Slart> p4_: you have to do a chmod g+rw too.. so the group members can read/write, if that's what you want
[23:54] <DasEI> druntar: don't take it too serious if you did it carefully, and it wasn't otr, or ?
[23:54] <p4_> Slart, as in "sudo chmod -R g+rw /path" ?
[23:54] <yimer> how i switch to a different server on here?
[23:54] <druntar> rodolfo: just use the test call in your friends list
[23:54] <rodolfo> druntar: can u help me?
[23:54] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: 1 sec
[23:54] <Pici> yimer: /server someserver.net
[23:54] <Slart> p4_: that looks correct, yes
[23:54] <cplusplus> whats the name of the svn package?
[23:54] <p4_> I've tried that : (
[23:55] <lstarnes> cplusplus: maybe subversion
[23:55] <p4_> permissions are "drwxrwxr-x" atm
[23:55] <rww> yimer: Bring up the Network List with XChat > Network List, or type "/server servername"
[23:55] <druntar> rodolfo: All you have to do to test if it's working is to make a test call. There should be a contact in your skype list called "Skype Test Call"
[23:55] <cplusplus> yes ;)
[23:55] <Anacranom> as in sudo chmod -R ### path/to/filename
[23:55] <Slart> p4_: and still people in the group can't read the files?
[23:55] <krazyfingerz47> DasEI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/105745/
[23:55] <druntar> rodolfo: just double click it and follow the prompts.
[23:56] <thasp> ifconfig says that ath0(my wifi NIC) is up with an IP address, but my router says it is not, and i can't get online with it
[23:56] <thasp> anything I can try?
[23:56] <gnutron> p4_: try chmod 660 -R /path/path/ that gives the owner and group read/write permissions  but the directory needs the exec bit, i.e. 755
[23:56] <druntar> thasp: Have you tried rebooting the router?
[23:56] <thasp> n
[23:56] <thasp> *no
[23:56] <thasp> I can connect with my windows machine to it
[23:56] <thasp> but not with the ubuntu one
[23:56] <FloodBot1> thasp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <p4_> ahh ok thanks gnutron, i'll try that
[23:57] <gnutron> p4_: be in the dir to chmod 660 the files
[23:57] <rodolfo> druntar: ok.. i found a bug in skype's package.. i can't change my avatar..
[23:57] <druntar> thasp: I have that same issue sometimes. I don't know exactly what causes it, but usually rebooting the router and the ubuntu machine usually fixes it for me.
[23:57] <Claw6> rodolfo, dont belive xD
[23:57] <wemdowemd> Are there any statistics available on ubuntu use over the years? Download rates, anything like that?
[23:57] <gnutron> p4_: chmod can use  characters or octal format
[23:58] <rodolfo> Claw6: why?
[23:58] <druntar> Slart: Welcome back.
[23:58] <rodolfo> I can change my avatar in static installation..
[23:58] <Slart> druntar: hehe.. thanks
[23:58] <p4_> man now i can't even get into the  directory, let alone the other user
[23:58] <jken146> rodolfo: which skype package do you have?  The one from medibuntu?
[23:59] <p4_> ls -l
[23:59] <p4_> oh sorry
[23:59] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: no errors in snd, if playback works correctly, should have sound, try something different :
[23:59] <p4_> thought i was in terminal lol
[23:59] <rodolfo> jken146: yes
[23:59] <mandragora22> Alguien habla español?
[23:59] <nukisen> no
[23:59] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: sudo apt-get install beep ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:59] <rww> !es | mandragora22
[23:59] <mylisto> hey everyone....
[23:59] <mylisto> I'm wnodering...
[23:59] <DasEI> krazyfingerz47: beep 50


[11:41] <romex_> hm.. i keep seeing "this plugin does not support raise()" and "this plugin does not support grabbing the keyboard" in the kate's logs
[11:41] <romex_> but i don't know what it means X-(
[12:13] <dandrader> romex_, I think when it says "plugin" it means a QPA plugin more specificaly. ie, the ubuntu platform implementation of Qt
[12:14] <greyback> romex_: it's coming from Qt's Mir integration. Nothing major to worry about, those are both things that apps under X could do (steal your focus=raise, steal keyboard input) but Mir does not allow
[12:14] <greyback> we will quiten those messages in future
[12:16] <romex_> nice guy mir! :D thanks dandrader & greyback
[14:52] <mterry> Saviq: looks like we are blocking all autopkg tests right now because of some unity-shell-launcher issue?
[14:52] <mterry> (all autopkg tests that depend on us anyway)
[14:52] <Saviq> mterry, /home/michal/Flow Diagram.dia
[14:52] <Saviq> /home/michal/Flow Diagram.png
[14:52] <Saviq> duh
[14:52] <Saviq> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/zesty/update_excuses.html#unity8
[14:53] <mterry> Saviq: ah
[14:53] <Saviq> we've been blocked on a new Depends that wasn't in main
[14:53] <Saviq> should be good again soon
[14:54] <mterry> Saviq: good thing you didn't have any passwords in your paste buffer  :P
[14:56] <romex_> greyback, the child window thing works great :D looks like it follows the parrent position awesome. the menus and tooltips don't work but that's expected probably
[14:56] <greyback> romex_: hey, thanks for trying it out! Yeah menus & tooltips fixes are coming
[14:57] <greyback> we're getting there
[14:57] <romex_> muhahaha, can't wait! your guys are awesome x 1000 :D
[14:58] <Saviq> mterry, yeah firefox didn't respond in time to the Ctrl+C...
[15:04] <romex_> greyback, weee http://sendvid.com/ia1ups2h (10s video)
[15:04] <romex_> tested with tiled (qt5 app) ^^
[15:05] <greyback> hmm, "video could not be loaded, either because the server of the network failed or because the format is not supported"
[15:06] <greyback> can anyone else see that vid?
[15:08] <romex_> hm.. strange
[15:08] <romex_> now i get the same message
[15:12] <romex_> greyback, uploaded again on vidme https://vid.me/aCWQ
[15:12] <romex_> i can see the video in firefox
[15:13] <greyback> romex_: yes, that works! Nice one!
[15:13] <romex_> :D
[15:20] <ltinkl> romex_, nice vid!
[15:22] <romex_> ltinkl, thanks :D silly videoh
[15:30] <dandrader> romex_, if you have comments, you can write them here: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/childWindows/+merge/311974
[15:30] <dandrader> like: tested. "x" works. "y" does not.
[15:32] <romex_> dandrader, thanks :D i thought that is only for the devs to comment :D i'm not a dev
[15:33] <dandrader> romex_, you tested it. that's relevant feedback. reviews involve code review and actual testing
[15:34] <romex_> oh, i see :D thanks! i'll leave a comment then
[15:42] <romex_> oops it's a bit crashy, hehe
[15:47] <romex_> dandrader, https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/childWindows/+merge/311974/comments/810461
[15:47] <romex_> done :D
[15:47] <dandrader> ack
[15:47] <romex_> omg spent 6 hours already on unity8
[15:47] <romex_> MUHAHAHA
[15:49] <dandrader> romex_, replied there. please ensure you have an up to date qtubuntu
[15:49] <dandrader> the needed qtubuntu fixes just landed yesterday
[15:54] <romex_> dandrader, thanks :D
[16:02] <romex_> dandrader, i have 0.63+17.04.20161123-0ubuntu1
[16:03] <dandrader> romex_,  you already had that when you made that comment? (bad menus and child dialogs showing on the spread)
[16:04] <romex_> dandrader, yep
[16:04] <dandrader> romex_, did you build unity8/childWindows yourself?
[16:04] <romex_> dandrader, so i'm using 17.04 + silo 2246
[16:04] <romex_> no
[16:04] <romex_> https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2246
[16:05] <dandrader> romex_, ahh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2246 doesn't have child windows support
[16:05] <dandrader> romex_, that's not in any silo yet
[16:06] <dandrader> romex_, you would have to build the branches yourself
[16:07] <romex_> dandrader, oh, :D i see thanks.
[16:07] <romex_> i'll mention next time what exactly i'm testing
[16:07] <romex_> and what i have installed to be more clear
[16:08] <romex_> coffea break for now
[16:08] <romex_> o/