[05:31] <bipolar> damn.... this is going to spoil me.
[05:32] <_michael> and then update...
[05:32] <bipolar> so much faster
[05:32] <jaldhar> yudi: Haven't used mrtg but based on the message I assume so.  Btw, en_us (non utf-8) is essentially the same as C or POSIX which you probably already have
[05:32] <_michael> well, first update, then upgrade, that's the right order I guess
[05:33] <jaldhar> _michael: yes
[05:34] <ajus> i got problem with billionton sd card reader.. whenever i plugged it in, konqueror pop out with many tabs saying "error no such device sda1"... any suggestions?
[05:35] <ajus> it runs perfectly in windows and knoppix though
[05:35] <haypo> hi! can someone tell me which I can't unlock my computer after an hibernation?
[05:36] <haypo> I tried my user password, my root password, and empty password
[05:36] <haypo> but no one is able to unlock my computer
[05:43] <IULIUS23ro> how can i make firestarter not to ask me for the passwd when the computer starts??
[05:44] <IULIUS23ro> what do i have to change here -caption "%c" %i %m?
[05:46] <IULIUS23ro> ??
[05:46] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[05:46] <IULIUS23ro> i made a link to firestarter in .kde/Autostart
[05:47] <IULIUS23ro> but i want when the computer starts
[05:47] <IULIUS23ro> to not prompt me for the rot password
[05:47] <IULIUS23ro> root
[05:47] <IULIUS23ro> any ideas?
[05:56] <ajus> which one's better adept or synaptic?
[05:57] <haypo> ajus, use both :)
[05:57] <ajus> haypo: :)
[05:58] <jaldhar> ajus:aptitude
[06:00] <ajus> jadhar: is it text base?
[06:01] <ajus> jaldhar: is it text base?
[06:01] <yudi> guys, i installed mrtg from kynaptic, why does when i'm using cfgmaker the result is http://pastebin.com/462421 and then after running indexmaker command, i see no change in my http://localhost/mrtg/... does installing mrtg from kynaptic will results different from installing the .tar.gz files that i download from www.mrtg.org?
[06:02] <digits> yukuake is really cool :)
[06:03] <digits> great to have irssi in :P
[06:04] <ajus> i'm to activate my geforce.. should i also install nvidia-glx?
[06:08] <jaldhar> ajus: yes, aptitude is text based
[06:09] <ajus> jaldhar: oh ok.. i'm not yet familiar with text base... but i'll learn.. thanks :)
[06:09] <sio> did anyone have any troubles connecting to repos with apt-get using a proxy?
[06:15] <ajus> what's nvidia-glx for? do i need it if i already installed nvidia common core?
[06:16] <rafx> is this a hoax?  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[06:20] <sophie_> rafx: youve been reading slashdot
[06:21] <freakshow> erhm, what is wrong when you comp says: crc error and Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) when you try boot up.. any ideas ?
[06:21] <sophie_> rafx: I have a hard time linus openly bashed gnome
[06:21] <digits> is kde-apps down?
[06:22] <djk_> sophie_: link?
[06:22] <rafx> sophie_: the alleged Linus comment is the top news at http://www.osnews.com/
[06:22] <sophie_> djk_: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/12/13/1340215.shtml?tid=121&tid=131&tid=189&tid=106
[06:22] <sophie_> or
[06:22] <sophie_> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[06:22] <monad> hi... something weird just happened: popped in the install cd into a (quite old) machine and got a kernel panic right away... how can this happen? and what is "this"?
[06:23] <rafx> 300+ user comments here too http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=12956
[06:24] <djk_> if torvalds said so, torvalds is right ;)
[06:24] <monad> can someone please tell me how i can get a kernel panic when booting from cd? this doesn't seem right
[06:24] <sophie_> djk_: What now you think linus is a prophet like jesus or mohammed, my beleife is it all depends on what your need is and what your audience is
[06:25] <djk_> sophie_: no, i just dislike gnome ;)
[06:25] <bipolar> is there a minimum groupwise version needed for Kontact to work with it?
[06:25] <sophie_> sophie_: if your are a newbie gnome is much easier to use compared to kde which is a litle bloated, I personnally prefer kde for its customisation and features
[06:25] <djk_> talking to yourself are we sophie_  ;)
[06:26] <sophie_> djk_: yep
[06:26] <sophie_> djk_: just thinking outloud
[06:27] <djk_> gnome isn't easier.. that's just wrong.
[06:27] <djk_> sophie_: tell me, how do you create a menu entry with an icon for a program in gnome?
[06:27] <sophie_> djk_: gnome is simpler and easier to teach
[06:28] <djk_> it most certainly is not.
[06:28] <digits> hehe
[06:28] <IULIUS23ro> hi all
[06:28] <digits> that was a blast
[06:28] <IULIUS23ro> how can i configure kopete to see my friends webcam?
[06:29] <sophie_> djk_: tell me how to do it on windows
[06:29] <IULIUS23ro> what do i have to do?
[06:29] <IULIUS23ro> plzzz
[06:29] <sophie_> djk_: not much easier,m when you install packages the menu entry is created just like windows,  a newbie does not want to know how to create a menu entry
[06:30] <djk_> sophie_: answering a question with a question is impolite. also, windows does so not play a role in this discussion.
[06:30] <digits> I'd rather use PekWM than either KDE or Gnome... but I really don't care anymore, I have a AMD64 3000+ with 2x512mb ram, "Lightweight" just doesn't seem to be as important anymore -- and I have "outgrown" my need to spend 2+ hours a day (re)building my theme and/or custom functions
[06:30] <sophie_> or does not need to, hes got to first strugle on how to open an app
[06:30] <djk_> sophie_: so extremely wrong..
[06:30] <djk_> so so so wrong..
[06:30] <sophie_> djk_: well u might think im wrong this is just my opinion
[06:30] <djk_> and it's wrong.. ;)
[06:31] <digits> sophie_: so wrong by the dev team to decide that the newbies don't want to learn -- it's the path to the windows side
[06:31] <djk_> digits: not only that, but not every program that is being installed gets a menu entry, thus there is a need to create a menu entry
[06:31] <djk_> and how is it done sophie_ ?
[06:31] <sophie_> digits: have spent hours with your mother in law trying to teach her how to openup outlook and sent an email
[06:32] <digits> I moved to linux because of the stability, but the most important thing: one can custiomize every single thing ;)
[06:32] <djk_> sophie_: this was the initial question, which you have so far ignored
[06:32] <djk_> sophie_: are you claiming that women and/or older people are too dumb to use a computer?
[06:32] <IULIUS23ro> what do i have to do in kopete to see my friends webcam?
[06:32] <IULIUS23ro> and to use mine
[06:32] <sophie_> djk_: honestly I dont know because i dont use gnome
[06:33] <djk_> sophie_: rather interesting..
[06:33] <digits> Why not make the user choose which way they want to go... a small tickbox would be enough "Automagically create menus? (Yes/No)"
[06:33] <djk_> sophie_: you don't know, yet you state an opinion as if it was a fact
[06:33] <sophie_> djk_: i never stated my opinion was a fact
[06:34] <djk_> sophie_: just so you know, to create a menu entry in gnome with an icon you are forced to edit a file..
[06:34] <djk_> sophie_: which most certainly is not easier than in kde and also not userfriendly
[06:34] <sophie_> djk_: I was expecting that
[06:35] <djk_> sophie_: expecting what
[06:35] <sophie_> djk_: menu entry configure thru some obscure .configurefile
[06:35] <djk_> sophie_: and yet you defend gnome for its userfriendliness?
[06:36] <djk_> or state that it's easier for newbies..
[06:36] <bipolar> djk_, sophie, you don't need to edit files to change the menu in gnome.
[06:36] <bipolar> there is a menu editor.
[06:36] <bipolar> but the gnome folks would rather the package mantainer set up the menu item.
[06:37] <djk_> bipolar: since when? and if so, how come that wiki entries haven't mentioned it
[06:37] <sophie_> djk_: what im saying is (my opinion and experience) gnome is easier than kde, why do u think the kubuntu team simplified the konqueror ui configuration
[06:37] <sophie_> fo newbies
[06:37] <djk_> sophie_: lack of anything useful to do...
[06:37] <bipolar> djk_: I dunno. been there since 2.10 afaik
[06:38] <_sebastian> join #ubuntu
[06:38] <sophie_> in breezy
[06:39] <djk_> bipolar: last time i accidentally read a wiki entry on gnome was with hoary.. or fedora 3..mmh.. they didn't mention that.
[06:39] <bipolar> djk_: I've got a brezzy system with gnome right here. right click on "Applications" -> "Edit Menu"
[06:40] <bipolar> I think it was there in horry too.
[06:40] <djk_> i only used gnome with fedora..
[06:40] <sophie_> bipolar: is the menu editor part of gnome or an add in app
[06:41] <bipolar> sophie_: I don't know. looks like a gnome app to me.
[06:41] <bipolar> ahh.... it's a program called smeg
[06:42] <sophie_> djk_: anyway lets stop the gnome/kde argumet I use the console 6% of the time
[06:42] <sophie_> oops 60$
[06:42] <sophie_> oops 60%
[06:42] <bipolar> lol
[06:42] <sophie_> f*/32 i hate my laptop keyboard
[06:42] <sophie_> french/english configuration
[06:43] <djk_> so if it's not really gnome that does it..that means i was right ;)
[06:43] <IULIUS23ro> is someone there willing to help me?
[06:43] <sophie_> djk_: remeber kde 2.0 how did you create a menu entry
[06:43] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: just ask
[06:44] <IULIUS23ro> i wanna use kopete with voice and webcam
[06:44] <IULIUS23ro> what do i have to do?
[06:44] <IULIUS23ro> or tell me a different application to do that
[06:44] <IULIUS23ro> plzzzzzzzz
[06:45] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: first does your webcam work on linux
[06:45] <IULIUS23ro> yes
[06:45] <djk_> sophie_: kde 2.0 was released when exactly?
[06:45] <IULIUS23ro> ;_
[06:45] <IULIUS23ro> ;)
[06:45] <sophie_> djk_: 2001
[06:46] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: Ok I'm going to get bashed here but if you want voice with huge user base install skype
[06:46] <IULIUS23ro> but i have skype
[06:46] <IULIUS23ro> ;)
[06:46] <IULIUS23ro> and i want to have voice over Yahoo
[06:47] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: I dont think voice is supported for yahoo on kopete
[06:47] <IULIUS23ro> but gaim or other application??
[06:47] <IULIUS23ro> what do u know ??
[06:47] <IULIUS23ro> about it
[06:48] <djk_> sophie_: well, i didn't use kde2.0, so enlighten me ;)
[06:48] <sophie_> before kde 2.0 menu entries where handle thru configuration files
[06:49] <sophie_> and no fancy ui
[06:49] <IULIUS23ro> :(
[06:49] <djk_> sophie_: so pretty much the same as gnome has ever been and still is in 2005 ;)
[06:53] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: try http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/ for voice and video compatible with yahoo
[06:53] <IULIUS23ro> ty
[06:53] <IULIUS23ro> a lot
[06:55] <digits> sophie_, djk_: still bashing eachother?
[06:56] <manveru> sophie_: afaik does kopete support voice+video in the current version
[06:56] <sophie_> digits: I dont think we're bashing but rather having a colorful discussion
[06:57] <digits> sophie_: hehe, if you say so... but for me it's in black and white ;P
[06:57] <digits> litterary...
[06:58] <digits> is there a good mysql frontend for kde?
[06:59] <sophie_> digits: try konsole  just kidding
[06:59] <Voodoo_Vibe> lol
[06:59] <manveru> digits: how about... phpmyadmin? :)
[07:00] <digits> manveru: that requires php a webserver etc. a tad overkill ;)
[07:00] <manveru> heh, i have only psql... no ideas for guis for mysql...
[07:00] <digits> sophie_: i'd love that, but my connection to the db server is a bit sketchy at the moment... not fun when you get disconnected
[07:01] <digits> manveru: i'd rather have postgres too, but my isp says no...
[07:01] <sophie_> digits: u want a front end to fill in tables or configuration
[07:02] <digits> sophie_: tables
[07:03] <IULIUS23ro> sophie_: tell me plz how to transform a rpm file into a .deb the full command console
[07:03] <digits> sophie_: i edit the config by hand, but it's too boring to handwrite all the sql... i'm getting more lazy for every year
[07:03] <Voodoo_Vibe> ie there any guitar program for linux? like Guitar pro dor windows??
[07:03] <Voodoo_Vibe> is*
[07:03] <manveru> IULIUS23ro: use alien
[07:03] <manveru> IULIUS23ro: 'alien foo.rpm' creates a .deb
[07:04] <digits> oops, brb... diaper changing time
[07:04] <djk_> digits: naa, i don't bash girls :p
[07:04] <manveru> IULIUS23ro: of course you have to apt-get install alien before
[07:04] <IULIUS23ro> i made it but i dont find it where is it
[07:04] <IULIUS23ro> im a newbie
[07:04] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: you first need to install alien
[07:05] <IULIUS23ro> i did all of that and i found my deb file
[07:05] <IULIUS23ro> :)
[07:05] <IULIUS23ro> t
[07:05] <IULIUS23ro> ty
[07:05] <IULIUS23ro> ;)
[07:05] <lwizardl> hi
[07:06] <lwizardl> i'm having connection to internet issues
[07:07] <lwizardl> i tryied to start limewire and it locked up my pc. so i turn it off then on again and now only thing that see the internet is limewire
[07:09] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: is it working now
[07:09] <IULIUS23ro> yes
[07:09] <IULIUS23ro> ;)
[07:09] <manveru> lwizardl: talk 100 times with me "Limewire is evil... Limewire is evil..."
[07:09] <IULIUS23ro> needed for gyach rpm
[07:10] <manveru> lwizardl: what kind of internet-connection do you have? - are you able to ping?
[07:10] <lwizardl> manveru: yeah but only program that seems to work correctly under linux
[07:10] <manveru> ???
[07:10] <lwizardl> i can't even connection to googles ip address
[07:10] <manveru> lwizardl: only for information - Kmail works fine in linux :)
[07:11] <manveru> lwizardl: what do you mean with 'see' and 'connect' ?
[07:11] <lwizardl> manveru: i was talking about Gnutella programs
[07:12] <lwizardl> limewire can find content etc on it
[07:12] <lwizardl> but nothing else finds anything
[07:12] <manveru> nothing else?
[07:12] <Voodoo_Vibe> what is the apt-get command to download all that is needed to run ./configure for a program??
[07:12] <lwizardl> firefox, konquerer, azurues, amule all can't connection or find sites
[07:13] <lwizardl> *connect
[07:13] <sophie_> lwizardl: first open up a console and type ping www.google.com and give us the results
[07:13] <manveru> Voodoo_Vibe: depends, but first thing is build-essentials
[07:13] <lwizardl> sophie_: ok brb on windows
[07:13] <lwizardl> currently
[07:13] <Voodoo_Vibe> manceru: Ok, Thanx
[07:15] <Voodoo_Vibe> it says configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH.. but i downloaded gcc-4.0
[07:15] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: install buildtools
[07:16] <neoncode> Hey, is there a linux equivilent of windows "hibernation" mode?
[07:16] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: with apt-get??
[07:16] <viperX> hello!
[07:16] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: sudo apt-get build-essential buildtools
[07:17] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: sudo apt-get build-essential buildtool
[07:17] <viperX> Could someone help me with konquerer?
[07:17] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: sudo apt-get install build-essential buildtool
[07:17] <sophie_> viperX: maybe i can try
[07:17] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: Ok, Thanx!
[07:18] <viperX> I know how to save veiwing profiles, but how do you load the profiles that you save?
[07:18] <sophie_> viperX: r u using breezy
[07:18] <Voodoo_Vibe> well that bit worked now but here comes a new problem.
[07:18] <Voodoo_Vibe> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:18] <lwizardl> ok
[07:19] <lwizardl> ping: unknown host: www.google.com
[07:19] <lwizardl> is what i got
[07:19] <viperX> Yep :)
[07:19] <lwizardl> seems i can't even connect to my windows samba share
[07:19] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: install x-dev
[07:20] <carsten> Moin. Is there an easy way to get the info what changed between the current and the last revision of a .deb? I wonder because today there where quite some updates but I don't know why
[07:20] <sophie_> lwizardl: now try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:20] <sophie_> i think you have dns problems
[07:22] <Voodoo_Vibe> damn i think the apt-get servers are down.
[07:22] <neoncode> Voodoo_Vibe: They work for me...
[07:23] <lwizardl> sec
[07:23] <brosiooz> how can i show all file inside a deb file ?
[07:23] <brosiooz> with apt-get
[07:23] <Voodoo_Vibe> neoncode: yeah now they work... must have been some program ive ran
[07:23] <neoncode>  Hey, what happened to ubotu?
[07:24] <sophie_> brosiooz: use alien
[07:25] <brosiooz> apt-get don't do it ???
[07:25] <sophie_> !ubotu where are u
[07:25] <ubotflu> sophie_: okay
[07:25] <neoncode> ubotflu?
[07:25] <sophie_> !ubotu r u sick
[07:25] <ubotflu> sophie_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:25] <sophie_> !ubotu what is wrong with you
[07:25] <ubotflu> sophie_: okay
[07:26] <sophie_> neoncode: ubuto is sick
[07:26] <neoncode> sophie_: I gathered...
[07:26] <sophie_> !ubuto We love you get well
[07:26] <ubotflu> Not a clue, sophie_
[07:27] <neoncode> nickserv says that the nick "ubotflu" was registered 13 hours ago.
[07:27] <monad> hi... can someone tell me how to properly use the partitioning tool on the install cd?
[07:28] <monad> if i choose "enter partitioning table manually", what do i do next? i'm used to use fdisk
[07:28] <yudi> how to check my mrtg version using the konsole?
[07:28] <Voodoo_Vibe> installed x-dev but still same problem checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:29] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: whats is the content of /usr/include
[07:30] <monad> and why the f*** is the install cd telling me i got 40000 something TB free disk space? i don't remember buying a terabyte drive
[07:30] <lwizardl> ping: network unreachable
[07:30] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: alot! anything speciel?
[07:31] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: is directory X11 present
[07:31] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: yes
[07:31] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: what are you trying to compile
[07:32] <Voodoo_Vibe> kguitar   http://kguitar.sourceforge.net/index.php
[07:32] <lwizardl> sophie_: now what can i do to fix?
[07:33] <sophie_> lwizardl: try to install xlibs-dev
[07:33] <lwizardl> and that will fix it?
[07:33] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: try to install xlibs-dev
[07:34] <sophie_> lwizardl: forget my last msg
[07:34] <lwizardl> thought so ok
[07:34] <sophie_> lwizardl: r u in linux now can you tell me more about your configuration
[07:34] <lwizardl> no chat won't connect in it
[07:35] <sophie_> are u suing dsl, cable a router
[07:36] <Voodoo_Vibe> OMG!  checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[07:36] <lwizardl> cable internet using router yes
[07:36] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: what r u trying to compile
[07:36] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: Kguitar     http://kguitar.sourceforge.net/index.php
[07:36] <sophie_> lwizardl: first make sure your eth card is installed
[07:37] <lwizardl> it was and said enabled
[07:37] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: you will need to install kde-dev also
[07:37] <lwizardl> its eth1
[07:37] <sophie_> lwizardl: what is the output of ifconfig
[07:37] <lwizardl> i hve 2 nic cards
[07:38] <sophie_> lwizardl: switch your router cable from one card to the other and try that
[07:38] <lwizardl> tried that also
[07:38] <insanekane> Voodoo_Vibe: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev ... or install libqt3-mt-dev within adept
[07:38] <sophie_> k tyoe in console ifconfig and tell us what the output is
[07:39] <lwizardl> i'm going to save the output as a text file hopefully on my floppy and let windows open it
[07:40] <sophie_> lwizardl: save also /var/log/kern.log
[07:40] <insanekane> lwizardl: tried sudo dhclient eth1 ?
[07:40] <Voodoo_Vibe> insanekane: Thanx!
[07:40] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: i cant find kde-dev in adapt
[07:40] <insanekane> lwizardl: that will get you an IP if you have dynamic IP on your cable modem
[07:40] <lwizardl> sophie_: how do i save that file
[07:41] <MachineScrew> yes the MSN web cam works in Kopete
[07:41] <insanekane> Voodoo_Vibe: you probably need kdelibs4-dev
[07:41] <MachineScrew> it realy works awesome
[07:42] <sophie_> cp filename todetination
[07:42] <lwizardl> ok so "cp /var/log/kern.log a:"
[07:42] <sophie_> cp /var/log/kern.log /mnt/floppy
[07:42] <lwizardl> ok
[07:43] <Voodoo_Vibe> YES! finally! Thanks for the help everybody!!
[07:43] <lwizardl> ok brb
[07:43] <pagux> hi folks
[07:43] <sampan> insanekane, got a scim (compiling) question for you ;)  i used the ./configure --prefix=/usr for scim, but do i need to configure all four (scim, skim, scim-pinyin, scim-tables) of the packages with that (prefix=/usr) too?
[07:43] <pagux> is kde-look.org is down ?
[07:44] <insanekane> sampan: yep
[07:44] <MachineScrew> pagux: yes it and gnome-look
[07:44] <MachineScrew> and kde-apps
[07:44] <pagux> why o why ?
[07:44] <insanekane> gnome-look ... heh, thats funny :)
[07:44] <pagux> hacked ?
[07:44] <pagux> DDOS ?
[07:44] <insanekane> sophie_: lwizardl got static IP ?
[07:45] <MachineScrew> well gnome-look kde-look and kde-apps are the same server i imagine
[07:45] <sampan> insanekane, k -- thanks ... i'm using checkinstall to make debs.  installing scim first -- but after that, does the order in which i install matter?
[07:45] <sophie_> insanekane: i dont know hes given us very litle information
[07:45] <MachineScrew> they are run by the same people
[07:45] <Voodoo_Vibe> hmmmm... i cant  make it!... convertxml.h:85: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'QVector' with no type
[07:45] <MachineScrew> but on the other hand you can still get wallpaper from them
[07:45] <Voodoo_Vibe> there is alot of errors!
[07:46] <MachineScrew> and superkaramba themes
[07:46] <MachineScrew> but not through the web site
[07:46] <insanekane> sophie_: you should've asked lwizardl to try dhclient ... its common for cable modems to have dynamic IP
[07:46] <insanekane> sampan: yes, umm, probably not since you arent using proper debs
[07:46] <insanekane> sampan: but you do have to make sure everything is installed
[07:47] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: ive just notice kguitar is part of universe:
[07:47] <sophie_> kguitar - an efficient and easy-to-use environment for a guitarist
[07:47] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: why not just install it fro there
[07:47] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: what?? sorry im new to Linux
[07:47] <sophie_> insanekane: he is using a router
[07:48] <sophie_> sophie_: with 2 nics
[07:48] <sampan> insanekane, cool.  basically, i think i'll just make the debs for all and install all at the same time; i'm assuming "everything" = all four debs/packages?
[07:48] <sophie_> sophie_: im confused
[07:48] <MachineScrew> why is konqueror opening up kate when clicked on http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/downloads/1.1/ktorrent_1.1-0czessi2_i386.deb
[07:48] <pagux> i just installed ubuntu-gnome desktop  via apt but i am not able to login :-(
[07:49] <MachineScrew> is it a taging issue or what
[07:49] <insanekane> sampan: yep
[07:49] <pagux> after logging into gnome nothing comes up ....i have kill X
[07:50] <insanekane> sophie_: hmm .. it doesnt matter (atleast not that I know of) ... i am on a machine with 2 cards too
[07:50] <Kimppa> Hello. Totem refuses to play because "audio device is busy", altought there shouldn't be any software using the audio device
[07:50] <insanekane> Kimppa: totem ... is gnome ? you use totem on KDE ?
[07:50] <Kimppa> how can I check if there if a software is using it / something else I can do?
[07:50] <pagux> is possible 2 use both kde and gnome on ubuntu ?
[07:50] <insanekane> Kimppa: you could try to disable the sound engine
[07:50] <Kimppa> insanekane: yes, I use totem to view DVD:s
[07:50] <insanekane> pagux: yep
[07:51] <insanekane> Kimppa: try system->settings->Sound and Multimedia
[07:51] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: what did u mean??
[07:51] <pagux> i just installed ubuntu-gnome desktop  via apt but i am not able to login :-(
[07:52] <insanekane> pagux: you probably need to use the desktop-switcher application
[07:52] <insanekane> pagux: or set up .xinitrc
[07:52] <pagux> after logging into gnome nothing comes up ....i have 2 kill X each time i login using gnome
[07:52] <Kimppa> insanekane: umm... I don't have "settings" or "sound and multimedia" in the system menu
[07:52] <MachineScrew> any one know why kate is opening debs
[07:52] <yudi> why can't I install what i edited in crontab?
[07:53] <pagux> but on fedora i can chose session while logging in
[07:53] <insanekane> Kimppa: try K->System Settings
[07:53] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: why not install it using apt-get
[07:54] <insanekane> pagux: sorry. i really have no clue when it comes to gnome ... maybe you are better off asking in #ubuntu
[07:54] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: ive tried but cant find it
[07:54] <Kimppa> insanekane: I don't have system settings in the K-menu, only system, but it doesn't contain settings
[07:54] <Kimppa> can I access what your looking for in kcontrol?
[07:55] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: open up /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:55] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: and uncomment the universe repository
[07:55] <insanekane> Kimppa: no, "System Settings" is one menu item :)
[07:55] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: after do "apt-get update"
[07:56] <insanekane> Kimppa: ok, open a Konsole, and then type kcontrol
[07:56] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: after sudo apt-get install kguitar
[07:56] <Kimppa> insanekane: yes, I understood it's one menu item, but I don't have it :) kcontrol is open
[07:56] <insanekane> Kimppa: in that, look for Sound and Multimedia
[07:56] <Kimppa> yup
[07:57] <Kimppa> sound system > hardware?
[07:57] <insanekane> Kimppa: sound system
[07:57] <Kimppa> wild guess :)
[07:57] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: omg! it worked!! BIG Thanx!!
[07:57] <insanekane> the main tab itself contains a checkbox to disable the sound server
[07:57] <lwizardl> ok
[07:57] <insanekane> lwizardl: did you try sudo dhclient eth1 ?
[07:58] <Kimppa> acutally, I have "enable sound system" which is checked
[07:58] <lwizardl> insanekane: yes
[07:58] <lwizardl> http://pastebin.com/462611
[07:58] <insanekane> Kimppa: yes, uncheck the checkbox to disable it
[07:59] <insanekane> lwizardl: which interface is actually connected to your cable modem ?
[07:59] <insanekane> lwizardl: eth0 or eth1 ?
[07:59] <neoncode> How do I stop Kate from putting dots everywere... it's anoying...
[07:59] <lwizardl> i also managed to take a picture of the loading screen that says something about failed
[07:59] <lwizardl> insanekane: eth1
[07:59] <Kimppa> insanekane: totem is still giving the same error :/
[07:59] <viperX> Could someone help me with Konqueror?
[08:00] <sampan> hrmmm, insanekane, checkinstall for both scim-pinyin and scim-tables fails with [install-recursive]  Error 1  :/
[08:00] <insanekane> sampan: did you do, sudo checkinstall ?
[08:01] <insanekane> lwizardl: the failed is probably the system clock sync
[08:01] <lwizardl> yes
[08:01] <viperX> I saved a profile for Konqueror, but I don't know how to get Konqueror to use the profile. Any ideas?
[08:01] <lwizardl> to the ubuntu page
[08:01] <sampan> hehehe, nope ... that might be a problem huh?
[08:01] <insanekane> lwizardl: it happens to me too, since i don't setup the interface in /etc/interfaces
[08:01] <insanekane> sampan: thats probably the problem
[08:02] <insanekane> viperX: Settings->Load Profile not what you want ?
[08:02] <pagux> intresting troll -> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/12/13/1340215.shtml?tid=121&tid=131&tid=189&tid=106
[08:02] <sampan> insanekane  yeah -- working now.  :)
[08:02] <insanekane> sampan: :)
[08:02] <viperX> the load profile option doesn't show up in my settings menu.
[08:02] <sophie_> pagux: dont start on this subject
[08:03] <insanekane> viperX: sure you created a new profile ? or just edited the existing one ?
[08:03] <sampan> insanekane, got one more (hopefully last) error -- the ./configure --prefix=/usr fails on skim
[08:04] <insanekane> sampan: ./configure prefix=/usr
[08:04] <insanekane> sampan: skim used scons
[08:04] <Voodoo_Vibe> pagux: hehe inteface nazis!
[08:04] <insanekane> skim uses scons
[08:04] <lwizardl> what can i do i don't want to have to reinstalling the whole os again
[08:04] <viperX> No, i created a new one. It shows up in the profiles folder in my /.kde/config/ folder.
[08:04] <sampan> insanekane  ahhhh ... not sure what scons is, but i gather i should just omit the -- to make it work
[08:05] <IULIUS23ro> is it possible to make from tar.bz2 *.deb files ??
[08:05] <insanekane> lwizardl: i dont think its a question of reinstall ... for me, i get a 192.168... address at times. all i do is unplug the modem, and plug it back in and try the dhclient again
[08:05] <insanekane> sampan: yep (iirc)
[08:05] <insanekane> IULIUS23ro: checkinstall
[08:05] <insanekane> IULIUS23ro: though its not automatic
[08:05] <lwizardl> i'll try that again did that for about an hour last night
[08:05] <sampan> insanekane, yeah -- sorry for so many questions -- trying it without the dashes works, but now it needs me to set my QTDIR -- eep
[08:06] <IULIUS23ro> ty
[08:06] <insanekane> sampan: /usr/share/qt3
[08:06] <IULIUS23ro> lets see if i'll handle it
[08:06] <sampan> insanekane, okay -- do i append that on the ./configure command line?
[08:07] <insanekane> sampan: probably just export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 ... then do the configure thing
[08:07] <insanekane> sampan: but its wierd ... i never had to do it
[08:08] <IULIUS23ro> insanekane: i have some tar.bz2 packages and i want to transform its into .deb packages
[08:08] <insanekane> sampan: do you have libqt3-mt-dev installed ? if you don't you should install it
[08:08] <viperX> I tried editing the configure file for konqueror, but that didn't work.
[08:09] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: once again  what r u trying to install
[08:09] <insanekane> sophie_: :)
[08:09] <sampan> insanekane, hrmmm -- well i'm not sure what's going on (obviously, since i had to ask so many question), but here's the latest error: Checking for uic                  :  uic was not found - set QTDIR put it in your PATH ?
[08:09] <IULIUS23ro> no
[08:09] <IULIUS23ro> i have some plugins
[08:09] <insanekane> sampan: ok, check if you have libqt3-mt-dev
[08:09] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: plugins for
[08:09] <IULIUS23ro> i will install them with configure&friends
[08:10] <insanekane> sampan: ls /usr/include/qt3 has something in it ?
[08:10] <IULIUS23ro> gyach
[08:10] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: what plugin
[08:10] <pagux> has some body ever installed gnome on kubuntu ?
[08:10] <IULIUS23ro> pYVoiceChat
[08:10] <sampan> insanekane  okay -- lol, that package installs about 30 others too --wheeee
[08:10] <insanekane> sampan: :)
[08:10] <insanekane> sampan: configure usually just detects everything
[08:11] <IULIUS23ro> but im wondering if these kind of packages tar.bz2 could be transformed intro .deb
[08:11] <IULIUS23ro> into
[08:11] <IULIUS23ro> ;)
[08:11] <insanekane> IULIUS23ro: untar, configure, make .. and then instead of sudo make install, do sudo checkinstall ... of course you need the checkinstall package for that
[08:11] <IULIUS23ro> k
[08:12] <sampan> insanekane, yeah, that's what seemed to be happening on the other packages ... but skim is being a bit of an oddball ;)
[08:12] <insanekane> :)
[08:12] <sophie_> IULIUS23ro: when doing ./configure --prefix=/usr
[08:12] <insanekane> oh yes :) forgot that ... thanks sophie_ :)
[08:12] <sampan> insanekane, okay -- now it's wanting kde includes
[08:12] <bipolar> how to I setup the wireless applet so it starts automaticly when I login?
[08:12] <insanekane> sampan: same thing ... kdelibs4-dev
[08:12] <sophie_> install kde-dev
[08:13] <insanekane> sampan: or what sophie says :)
[08:13] <sophie_> bipolar: if you logoff with saving your session the applet is going to be there at next boot
[08:13] <IULIUS23ro> ty
[08:13] <bipolar> sophie_: ok. let me play with that.
[08:14] <sampan> insanekane  lol ... well kdelibs4-dev needs 12 mbs of d/ls -- kinda hoping that it's getting all the kde-dev stuff
[08:14] <Voodoo_Vibe> ive installed Americas Army but when im gonna start it, it just loads then nothing happens
[08:14] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: do you have 3d drivers installed for your card
[08:15] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: oh it dont take that on Kubuntu install?? thought it did
[08:16] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: nope if you have nvidia card
[08:16] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: no i have ati radeon
[08:16] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: oh no!
[08:17] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie:  sounds bad :(
[08:17] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: worked fine in Mandrake 10.1
[08:17] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: first enable universe repository
[08:18] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: yes i did that when i got kguitar
[08:18] <digits> can I speed up the mouse? (not the acceleration, but the overall speed?)
[08:19] <sampan> insanekane, one more problem down, one more arises: Checking for scim-x11utils ...  Not Found  -- do i need another tarball?
[08:20] <_mrj> i can not understand anything at all
[08:20] <_mrj> i have messed up something - my XMMS displays ..... Egyptian eroglyps :)
[08:20] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: what cpu r u runnong
[08:21] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe:
[08:21] <sophie_> apt-get install fglrx-control
[08:21] <sophie_> apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:21] <sophie_> apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:21] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: AMD athlon XP if i remember correctly
[08:21] <_mrj> hey
[08:21] <_mrj> gyus
[08:21] <_mrj> guys
[08:21] <sophie_> fglrxconfig
[08:21] <insanekane> sampan: hmm ... didnt you install the scim already ?
[08:21] <_mrj> how can i change
[08:21] <insanekane> sampan: you need to install the scim deb if you want to compile skim
[08:22] <sampan> hrmmm, i thought i did already
[08:22] <_mrj> the ugly motif design that i become when i install xmms through apt-get
[08:22] <_mrj> ?
[08:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone see the slashdot post about Linus Torvalds saying KDE rox it more than gnome
[08:22] <insanekane> sampan: install it and try again
[08:22] <insanekane> FunnyLookinHat: yes
[08:22] <insanekane> FunnyLookinHat: so does Mark Shuttleworth
[08:22] <_mrj> insanekane: a little HELP here ?:)
[08:22] <FunnyLookinHat> insanekane: w00t!
[08:23] <insanekane> _mrj: it would do well not to shout ..
[08:23] <sophie_> FunnyLookinHat: dont get me started on the subject I think linus was very unproffesional or was not him at all
[08:23] <insanekane> _mrj: but, i don't understand your problem, nor do i have xmms
[08:23] <_mrj> insanekane: it is not particular with xmms
[08:23] <FunnyLookinHat> sophie_, albeit unprofessional, I'd prefer the "leaders" of the linux/oss movement to start moving one way or another
[08:23] <insanekane> sophie_: or maybe he was too pissed off at gnome ? :)
[08:23] <_mrj> thats by all new installed apps
[08:23] <insanekane> _mrj: what does it show ?
[08:24] <_mrj> i would like to change the motif design with something more eye-friendly :)
[08:24] <insanekane> _mrj: what do you mean egyptian heiroglyphics ?
[08:24] <insanekane> _mrj: you changed the style ? system->settings->appearance
[08:24] <_mrj> insanekane: something with the fonts, or no idea but the menus of xmms are ..... not normal
[08:24] <sampan> insanekane  i reinstalled the scim*.deb ... now when i go to ./configure skim, it doesn't give any errors (but it doesn't even get as far as checking for scim >= 1.3.2. etc...) and a make fails
[08:24] <sampan> very strange
[08:25] <insanekane> _mrj: if the problem is with xmms, then i have no idea
[08:25] <insanekane> sampan: show me the output
[08:25] <_mrj> i have changed : dpkg-preconfigure locales
[08:25] <insanekane> FunnyLookinHat: i think so too ;) (to KDE i.e.) :)
[08:25] <_mrj> and they was macedonian - i changed it to english
[08:26] <FunnyLookinHat> insanekane, hahahhaa
[08:26] <_mrj> since then xmms makes problems
[08:26] <_mrj> but it plays
[08:27] <sampan> insanekane  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5708
[08:27] <_mrj> only the menus are strange and ununderstandable
[08:28] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: ok, now its set up. if it should fail to startx, is there a command to run without it?
[08:28] <insanekane> sampan: looking
[08:29] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:29] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: there should be a backup of the file xorg.conf
[08:29] <insanekane> sampan: try something ... rm -rf the skim-1.4.3 directory ... untar again, and try
[08:29] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: just rename it back to xorg
[08:29] <insanekane> sampan: because i have 1.4.3 here, and it works
[08:30] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: ok, Thanx again for all youre help!! gonna try it now!
[08:30] <sampan> okay -- i can give that a go :)
[08:33] <sampan> insanekane  okay, call me silly, but the skim is a .bz2 (not tar.gz) file -- and i can't recall the alphabet soup options for tar with bz2 files :X
[08:34] <sophie_> sampan: does it have tar.bz2
[08:34] <sophie_> than tar -xfvj filname.tar.bz2
[08:34] <sampan> yeah, is it xjvf ?
[08:34] <sophie_> sampan: yep
[08:35] <hussam> anybody read this? http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12956 , Linux Torvalds says KDE is better than Gnome
[08:35] <sampan> kk thanks -- i still forget with bz2 files ... tar.gz i remember, but for some reason i always forget the j in bz2 :/  i'm newb
[08:35] <sophie_> hussam: I think we should change the subject to Linus hates GNOME
[08:36] <Stele> anyone know where there is no adept package for kdevelop?
[08:37] <sampan> insanekane, i deleted skim dir, untarred, and then here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5710
[08:37] <sampan> it's the same thing: scim-x11utils aren't found ... and i know i installed the scim deb (just reinstalled it in fact)
[08:37] <sophie_> Stele: kdevelop3 - An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version
[08:37] <Stele> i dont see it in adept
[08:37] <Stele> :(
[08:38] <manveru> !info kdevelop4
[08:38] <manveru> !info kdevelop3
[08:38] <sophie_> Stele I've got thepackage did you enavble universe
[08:38] <ubotflu> kdevelop3: (An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.2.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1053 kB, Installed size: 3500 kB
[08:38] <Stele> hmm maybe not
[08:38] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: seems like it worked but now my sound dont!  :)
[08:38] <Stele> how would i enable universe?
[08:38] <insanekane> sampan: hmm, let me check why thats happeneing
[08:38] <manveru> !sources
[08:38] <ubotflu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:38] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: sound does not work for america army or in kde
[08:38] <manveru> !repositories
[08:38] <ubotflu> I guess repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[08:38] <manveru> :)
[08:38] <sampan> insanekane, okay -- thanks for the patient help btw
[08:38] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: kde
[08:39] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory)
[08:39] <Stele> aye got it thanks
[08:39] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: did it work before
[08:39] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: yes
[08:39] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: weird
[08:39] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: yeah and i cant run alsamixer anymore
[08:40] <sophie_> backup your xorg.conf and use the back one and restart x by doing control-alt-backspace
[08:40] <sophie_> to see if sounds works
[08:40] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: ok
[08:41] <Stele> why isnt universe in the default list? or, why is kdevelop not also available from the default repositories?
[08:41] <Stele> in other words, why did I have to go hunting for it? (just curious)
[08:42] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: i cant find any backup of it??
[08:45] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: Can u pate your xorg.conf
[08:45] <sophie_> not here
[08:45] <Stele> i cant seem to run kdbg anymore
[08:46] <insanekane> sampan: look for /usr/lib/libscim-x11utils-1.0.so.8.1.0
[08:46] <Stele> was this replaced by something else? i just need a GUI replacement for gdb
[08:47] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: where should i paste it then?
[08:47] <sampan> insanekane  no such file or directory
[08:47] <insanekane> sampan: ok, go to the scim directory, and check if its therte
[08:48] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:48] <sampan> insanekane, which scim directory?  the downloaded/untarred one?  or the installed one? (i just did an updatedb and locate -- didn't find anything iwth "libscim-x11utils" anywhere on the system)
[08:49] <insanekane> sampan: the one in which you built scim
[08:49] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: ok here it is >> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/462684 <<
[08:49] <PupenoL> Hello.
[08:50] <sampan> insanekane  that directory has: scim-x11utils.pc and scim-x11utils.pc.in
[08:50] <PupenoL> I am using apt-ftparchive to make a repository, I configured it like: BinDirectory "ubuntu/breezy/rs/" { Packages "ubuntu/breezy/rs/Packages"; } and I get the error "E: Could not open file ./ubuntu/breezy/rs/binary-i386/Packages.gz.new - open (2 No such file or directory)". Why is it tring to access binary-i386 ? my packages are not there. Or how can I tell dpkg-buildpackage to store them there ?
[08:50] <insanekane> sampan: no ... do this ... go to scim-1.4.2/utils/.libs ... do you see the lib there ?
[08:51] <sampan> insanekane, there is no .libs directory in my scim-1.4.2/utils/
[08:51] <insanekane> sampan: err ... do the make thing again :)
[08:51] <insanekane> sampan: configure, make
[08:51] <sampan> lol
[08:51] <insanekane> sampan: then you will see the .libs
[08:51] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: your xorg.conf looks fine did u try to reboot your machine
[08:52] <sampan> insanekane  do i need to uninstall the scim-1.4.2 .deb that has already been installed?
[08:52] <insanekane> sampan: no ..
[08:52] <insanekane> sampan: its wierd that it wasnt installed already
[08:52] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie: Yes, thats what i did after fglrxconfig
[08:52] <insanekane> sampan: but anyway
[08:53] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie_: Yes, thats what i did after fglrxconfig
[08:53] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: I dont think the sound issue has anything to do with the ati drive installation
[08:53] <IULIUS23ro> when an application started from konsole show me segmentation fault what do i have to do to repair it?
[08:53] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: did you install something else (kquitar) midi drivers
[08:54] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: how did you check that sound was not working
[08:54] <sampan> insanekane  do i need to sudo make?  i wonder if i forgot that
[08:54] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie_: when i run alsamixer i get this : No mixer elems found
[08:55] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie_: just got kguitar havent tried it yet... i ran xmms and i got an error message at startup
[08:55] <insanekane> sampan: do me a favor ... when you do configure, it prints out a set of options at the end
[08:55] <insanekane> sampan: please pasty those options
[08:55] <insanekane> IULIUS23ro: segfault == some erroneous code .. only the developers can fix it
[08:55] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: for some reason putty just did on me
[08:56] <dat21> does anyone know which package has "Kde Includes"
[08:56] <sampan> insanekane  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5713
[08:56] <sophie_> dat21: kde-dev
[08:57] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie_ happens to me too from time to time
[08:57] <sampan> insanekane  the lack of the GUI setup utility is disturbing to me :X
[08:57] <IULIUS23ro> but if i want to use that application again?
[08:58] <insanekane> sampan: normal users shouldn't be compiling :)
[08:58] <insanekane> sampan: ok ... did you do "make" ?
[08:58] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie_ kguitar doesnt work very fine just hangs all the time.... is there anyway of uninstalling it then maybe my sound will come back??
[08:59] <sampan> insanekane, indeed -- but the breezy scim packages broke my system -- so bad i couldn't even kill X -- had to literally pull the plug or powerbutton off every time i'd start scim
[08:59] <sophie_> Voodoo_Vibe: sudo apt-get remove kguitar
[09:00] <sampan> insanekane  now scim has /utils/.libs/ and that directory does have the x11utils
[09:00] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie_: ok easy enough! :) gonna try and restart now
[09:01] <fulld> musicbrainz is broken in juk and I'm having a hell of a time following this manual to fix it, is anyone farmiliar with this problem?
[09:01] <insanekane> sampan: ok ... copy all the files that begin with libscim-x11utils ... into /usr/lib ... use sudo of course
[09:02] <sophie_> fulld u need to install deb packages but i cant remember which one
[09:02] <sampan> insanekane  should i make first?  or do that before make?
[09:02] <fulld> I found this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29370 and I install apt-build
[09:02] <fulld> but I'm having some dependency problems
[09:02] <insanekane> sampan: didnt you already do make ?
[09:03] <insanekane> sampan: do make first .. then copy the x11utils stuff from utils/.libs/ (not from utils/)
[09:03] <sampan> insanekane, previously, yes.  and checkinstall even.  scim-1.4.2 is already installed -- just not sure if i need to redo those steps or if this copying can just be done after the fact
[09:03] <insanekane> sampan: no need to redo .. just copy
[09:03] <sampan> kk
[09:04] <sampan> done
[09:04] <sampan> retry the skim now?
[09:04] <insanekane> yes
[09:05] <sampan> heh, still says those x11utils are not found
[09:05] <sampan> gah
[09:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[09:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i'd like to personalize my system console
[09:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried to use the vga=ask option
[09:06] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie_: nope, still no sound
[09:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but since the video use VESA, i can choose only little fonts
[09:06] <insanekane> sampan: ok ... does scim-1.4.2/ have a file called scim-x11utils.pc ?
[09:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> big fonts*
[09:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i'd like to have something more than 80*40
[09:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like 130*80?
[09:07] <sampan> insanekane  yep
[09:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you have any idea on how to change it?
[09:07] <insanekane> sampan: ok, do ls /usr/lib/pkgconfig/scim-x11utils.pc
[09:10] <sampan> insanekane  "No such file or directory" -- thanks for the help ... i actually need to drive wifey to pick up our car (at the repair shop) -- and i'll tackle this later (probably by uninstalling and starting from scratch)
[09:10] <leafww> any clues anyone on how to install baghira in kubuntu ppc ?
[09:10] <leafww> sources fail to compile in kde 3.40
[09:11] <insanekane> sampan: no ... all you need to do is copy the .pc file i told you earlier, into /usr/lib/pkgconfig
[09:11] <insanekane> sampan: then try skim again (the .pc file tells scons where to file libscim-x11utils)
[09:12] <insanekane> sampan: anyway, i will be around later tomorrow as well so if it doesnt work, then i can help you
[09:12] <kernoman> i have really noisy sound capture via a mic when using kubuntu any ideas why? I have muted all unecessary ports but it crackles big time
[09:13] <Stele> anyone know what package(s) man pages for standard lib functions like "stat" and "mkdir" are?
[09:14] <pagux> has anybody installed gnome on kubuntu ?
[09:14] <insanekane> pagux: have you asked in #ubuntu ?
[09:15] <hussam> Anybody here's used SuSE before? I used to use SuSE 9.1 before switching to Kubuntu
[09:15] <Voodoo_Vibe> sophie_: u still here??
[09:15] <hussam> One thing I hated about SuSE is that they install kde in /opt/kde3 instead of /usr
[09:16] <IULIUS23ro> is it safe to remove linux-386  and linux-restricted-modules ??
[09:17] <IULIUS23ro> ??
[09:17] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[09:17] <leafww> can the whole system be upgraded to 5.10 from the menus ?
[09:18] <pagux> insanekane: YES
[09:18] <pagux> has anybody installed gnome on kubuntu ?
[09:18] <IULIUS23ro> sophie_: is it safe to remove linux-386  and linux-restricted-modules ??
[09:18] <pagux> pl pl pl help me in logging into gnome
[09:19] <tetoxs> ita
[09:19] <pagux> i have just installed  ubuntu-desktop pakage on kubuntu
[09:20] <pagux> but i am not able to login .....nothing happens when i select gnome ... i have 2 kill xserver :-(
[09:20] <pagux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5712
[09:20] <IULIUS23ro> does anybody knows if is it safe to remove linux-386  and linux-restricted-modules ??
[09:21] <pagux> has anybody installed SUCCESSFULLY gnome on kubuntu ?
[09:21] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: why would you want to do that?
[09:21] <IULIUS23ro> winter cleaning on my kubuntu
[09:21] <IULIUS23ro> i remove all unnecessary packages
[09:21] <kernoman> i have really noisy sound capture via a mic when using kubuntu any ideas why? I have muted all unecessary ports but it crackles big time
[09:22] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: if you want to do some cleanup, keep those but run deborphan
[09:22] <IULIUS23ro> ty
[09:23] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: if you want, paste the results of deborphan somewhere
[09:24] <IULIUS23ro> where?
[09:24] <hussam> kubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:27] <IULIUS23ro> hussam: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/462730
[09:28] <Voodoo_Vibe> how can i install alsamixer??
[09:28] <kernoman> anyone know the name of the alsa irc channel (if they ahve one)
[09:28] <kernoman> sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[09:29] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:29] <IULIUS23ro> yes
[09:29] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: #alsa
[09:29] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: then these should be safe to remove
[09:30] <IULIUS23ro> ty ty ty
[09:30] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: just make sure you always have kubuntu-desktop installed
[09:30] <IULIUS23ro> k
[09:30] <IULIUS23ro> and now what do i do?
[09:30] <IULIUS23ro> whats the command line
[09:31] <Voodoo_Vibe> how can i install alsamixer??
[09:31] <kernoman> sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[09:31] <IULIUS23ro> for deborphan to do the cleaning
[09:32] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: no, ive tried that
[09:32] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: just sudo apt-get remove <package names>
[09:33] <IULIUS23ro> oki doki
[09:34] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: just keep the linux-386 and the linux-restricted-modules and kubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <IULIUS23ro> =))
[09:34] <IULIUS23ro> k
[09:34] <IULIUS23ro> i understood
[09:35] <IULIUS23ro> :))
[09:35] <hussam> IULIUS23ro: cool
[09:35] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: And it doesnt work?
[09:35] <IULIUS23ro> im a beginer in linux
[09:35] <pagux> pl pl pl help me in logging into gnome
[09:35] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: no
[09:36] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: be more descriptive - whats teh error?
[09:36] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: couldnt find the package
[09:37] <bam_> morning
[09:37] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: alsa-utils
[09:37] <bam_> anyone know whay dvdrip's audio isnt synced after ripping a dvd?
[09:38] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: i got that
[09:38] <CarstenP> how can i disable automount?
[09:38] <CarstenP> or change automount in that way that i can write on my compact flash cards?
[09:38] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: ok try installing alsamixergui
[09:41] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: i installed it but still cant run alsamixer
[09:42] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: it dont show my card
[09:42] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: do you have an onboard card and an aditional pci card installed?
[09:42] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: onboard via
[09:43] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: Is sound working at all?
[09:43] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: no sound at all
[09:44] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: is alsa running?
[09:44] <CarstenP> has noone an idea for the mount thingie ? (ich habe sogar ne kasette!!)
[09:44] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: dunno, how do i check that??
[09:45] <bipolar> I am still amazed at how much more reponsive kde is over gnome on the same ubuntu install.
[09:45] <bipolar> wowo
[09:47] <viperX> Does anybody know what's up with the kde-look.org site?
[09:47] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: do an lsmod first to see if any modules ahve been loaded i.e. soundcore  then just do a /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart and that will start it if it not already running.  I think all you will need to do is find out what module needs to be laoded for your card and youll be sorted
[09:50] <viperX> Has anybody been able to connect to kde-look or kde-apps?
[09:50] <CarstenP> so , i have this compact flash card reader for my mp3 files. but i cant write any mp3 files on it, because, it only mounts read only. how can i change that ? it is not ntfs it is fat-irgendwas
[09:50] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: error when restartin: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing'.
[09:50] <mwe> can someone confirm if kde-look.org is down?
[09:51] <Eismann> is down
[09:51] <Voodoo_Vibe> its down
[09:51] <mwe> damn
[09:51] <viperX> I haven't been able to coonect for the past three, four days.
[09:51] <mwe> really
[09:52] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: that means its not running so just do start rather than restart
[09:52] <viperX> yeah. I'm trippin cause I'm lookin for this karamba that is apparently only on the site.
[09:53] <mwe> oh. too bad
[09:53] <viperX> SOOOOO frustrating...
[09:54] <kernoman> Voodoo_Vibe: any luck?
[09:55] <viperX> Are there any other sites that stock links to apps and other things for KDE?
[09:56] <VincentMX> hi
[09:56] <kernoman> bye all
[09:58] <Whitman> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu Breezy and I've got a problem with the System Settings application, the window isn't big enough to show all of the buttons/text buttons etc, resizing the window just shows the icons in the system settings panel.
[10:03] <mwe> Whitman: that's not the only problem with system settings. some settings are missing all together. I use good old kcontrol instead
[10:04] <Whitman> I've found the settings in Konqueror now.
[10:04] <Knowerrors> Anybody know a good video program that will join wmv files and produce an mpeg from them?
[10:05] <mwe> Whitman: ok. things like splash screen configuration are still missing in system settings, though
[10:06] <mwe> Knowerrors: you are aware that converting from one compressed format to another will cause loos of quality?
[10:06] <Knowerrors> yeah, I really just want to join them, but I assume the program has to decompress to avi to join them
[10:07] <djk_> Knowerrors: avi is just a container..
[10:08] <duri> hello. I have an ubuntu 5.10 desktop that I have converted to kubuntu through apt-get and the metapackage. I run KDE but I still I get a couple of memory-hungry processes related to Evolution (that I do not use). where are they launched ? how can I turn them off ?
[10:10] <Knowerrors> so in #ubuntu theyre telling me to cat the wmv files together, sound good?
[10:10] <andreas_> no
[10:11] <andreas_> sounds like they're joking around with you
[10:11] <andreas_> tell them the smart kubuntu guys calls bs on their idea
[10:12] <Knowerrors> hehe, it sounded too easy... why andreas_ won't that work, and what should I do instead?
[10:15] <_michael> duri, you could uninstall evolution, if that's not too easy...
[10:16] <duri> ok . thanks _michael
[10:17] <james> hi
[10:18] <lwizardl> i just reformated and redid the kubuntu install because of the network glitch i had today
[10:18] <lwizardl> so how do i install the nvidia software again?
[10:28] <Voodoo_Vibe> ernoman: u still here??
[10:28] <Voodoo_Vibe> kernoman: u still here??
[10:29] <djk_> Voodoo_Vibe: he left 33 mins ago...
[10:29] <Voodoo_Vibe> djk_: oh crap.....
[10:31] <Voodoo_Vibe> can someone help me? i cant start alsamixer ive downloaded alsa-utils and alsa-base. and alsa is running but i get "No mixer elems found" when i run it?
[10:31] <Voodoo_Vibe> and i have no sound at all
[10:32] <Voodoo_Vibe> it worked before then i installed kguitar and fglrx then it didnt work anymore
[10:34] <Knowerrors> andreas_: you still here?  why not cat?  what to use instead to join wmv files?
[10:36] <_mrj> hey
[10:36] <_mrj> friends
[10:37] <_mrj> how i should install a cyrrilic support in kubuntu ?
[10:41] <_mrj> !firefox1.5
[10:41] <ubotflu> firefox1.5 is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:42] <james> !nvidia
[10:42] <ubotflu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:43] <Knowerrors> _mrj: try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99004&highlight=arnieboy+firefox+1.5+script , much easier way to get ff 1.5
[10:46] <_mrj> Knowerrors: and could you help me for something else
[10:46] <_mrj> i wish to change the GUI to newly installed apps
[10:46] <Knowerrors> ? what do you mean
[10:46] <_mrj> example: when i install xine, mplayer oder xmms oder even firefox
[10:47] <_mrj> they are in that old motif style
[10:47] <_mrj> how could i change that
[10:47] <_mrj> ?
[10:47] <Knowerrors> firefox you can change, other two can't really be auto "skinned"
[10:48] <Knowerrors> for firefox, go to system settings, appearance, gtk looknfeel, there choose make gtk look like kde and use kde fonts
[10:48] <Knowerrors> kde system settings that is
[10:51] <_mrj> no that didn't help
[10:52] <_mrj> and my xmms player is showing strange fonts
[10:52] <_mrj> all the menus are strange
[10:52] <kosh> xmms is gtk1 I think still
[10:52] <_mrj> i can not read a bunch
[10:52] <_mrj> ...
[10:52] <_mrj> i have touched the locales
[10:52] <kosh> the gtk look and feal thing only works on gtk2
[10:52] <_mrj> and since then it does not work correctly
[10:53] <_mrj> kosh: it is possible with gtk 1 too
[10:53] <_mrj> i have made it a long ago
[10:53] <nmorse> Anyone know of a good way to roll back packages to hoary without just manually downloading them all and using dpkg?
[10:53] <_mrj> on Knoppix
[10:53] <_mrj> i have installet something ...
[10:53] <_mrj> and then executed soem command
[10:53] <_mrj> and it worked
[10:53] <_mrj> but i have forgotten what have i installed
[10:53] <crimsun> nmorse: you can use apt pinning to prioritise hoary
[10:53] <nmorse> I'm having trouble convincing the apt-pinning to work.
[10:53] <crimsun> what's the stanza you're using?
[10:53] <nmorse> I have it all set to use hoary at priority 1001.
[10:54] <kosh> I have to admit I stopped using xmms long ago
[10:54] <nmorse> Hang on while I get the actual file up.
[10:54] <Voodoo_Vibe> anyone else having trouble starting Americas Army?? the AA logo comes up and is loading but then it just closes
[10:55] <nmorse> Package: *
[10:56] <nmorse> Pin: release a=hoary
[10:56] <nmorse> Pin-Priority: 1001
[10:56] <crimsun> and you're using dist-upgrade?
[10:56] <nmorse> Yeah.
[10:57] <_mrj> kosh: what are you using then instead ?
[10:58] <Knowerrors> _mrj: for firefox look and others like synaptic and openoffice, go to kde system settings, appearance, gtk looknfeel, and select look like kde and use kde fonts
[10:58] <kosh> I am using amarok since it can do 7.1 output
[10:59] <ClayG> anyoneknow a good place to grab a dictionary file?
[10:59] <kosh> sudo apt-get install aspell-en
[10:59] <_mrj> Knowerrors:  i am not an IDEOT - i have tried that a lot of times - it does not working
[10:59] <_mrj> !
[10:59] <ubotflu> _mrj: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:59] <_mrj> :)
[10:59] <Tm_T> =)
[11:00] <Knowerrors> _mrj: lol
[11:00] <Voodoo_Vibe> how do i install FireGL support for my ATI control panel??
[11:00] <Tm_T> kosh: hmm, I use amaroK because the interface is just what I like to use
[11:00] <_mrj> kosh: - amarok says to me : not supported format mp3 .... download an apropriate plugin
[11:00] <Tm_T> kosh: I don't see any point to have more than stereo output ;(
[11:00] <_mrj> !amarok plugins
[11:00] <ubotflu> _mrj: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:00] <_mrj> ahahahaheheeh
[11:00] <_mrj> :)
[11:00] <kosh> Tm_T: I switched to it since it can use the xine engine and xine supports 7.1 output
[11:01] <Knowerrors> _mrj: try sudo kcontrol and do it, thats what I had to do to get it to work
[11:01] <Tm_T> _mrj: what engine
[11:01] <Tm_T> kosh: so?
[11:01] <_mrj> Tm_T: i wanna be able to play mp3 in amarok
[11:01] <kosh> _mrj: yeah ubuntu does not include mp3 support by default but instructions on how to do it are on their site
[11:01] <Knowerrors> _mrj: get the amarok-xine engine, gstreamer is default one and sucks
[11:01] <Tm_T> _mrj: yes, what engine you're using in amaroK
[11:01] <Tm_T> Knowerrors: it doesn't
[11:02] <nmorse> I'm still wondering why Kaffeine uses gstreamer by default in Kubuntu.
[11:02] <Tm_T> Knowerrors: if it sucks in your pc, it doesn't mean it sucks everywhere
[11:02] <nmorse> That just doesn't make any sense.
[11:02] <Tm_T> nmorse: ubuntu legacy maybe
[11:02] <kosh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[11:02] <Knowerrors> Tm_T: alot of people have same problems with gstreamer, xine seems to work on more machines without fooling around
[11:02] <kosh> xine is the default for amarok
[11:02] <kosh> if xine can be found that is what it will use by default
[11:03] <nmorse> xine needs to be the default for kaffeine again
[11:03] <Voodoo_Vibe> how do i install FireGL support for my ATI control panel??
[11:03] <_mrj> Knowerrors: nope does not work
[11:03] <ClayG> has anyone here setup the ISP ubuntu server?
[11:03] <Knowerrors> _mrj: what, the gtk thing?
[11:03] <ClayG> the one on howtoforge?
[11:04] <Knowerrors> _mrj: I assume you have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed
[11:05] <_mrj> Knowerrors:  yep
[11:05] <_mrj> yes i have
[11:05] <_mrj> Knowerrors:  you are assuming right :)
[11:05] <_mrj> what am i supposed to do now _
[11:05] <_mrj> ?
[11:05] <pperez> Hello Everyone, I am getting a very interesting error message by kpdf: "Bogus memory allocation size"
[11:05] <pperez> has anyone seen this before?
[11:06] <Voodoo_Vibe> omg! ive installed the fglrx for ati cards but graphics is lagging alot! did i do anything wrong??
[11:06] <Knowerrors> _mrj: try sudo systemsettings, might work?
[11:06] <crimsun> nmorse: a= isn't going to work
[11:06] <nmorse> Okay.
[11:06] <nmorse> What do I need to do then?
[11:06] <_mrj> it is there one command
[11:06] <_mrj> gtk-something
[11:07] <_mrj> that allows to change the style
[11:07] <_mrj> does anyone knows it
[11:07] <_mrj> Knowerrors: ok
[11:07] <crimsun> nmorse: l=Ubuntu
[11:08] <_mrj> Knowerrors: nope not working
[11:08] <Knowerrors> _mrj: is this a fresh breezy install?
[11:09] <nmorse> crimsun: still not working.
[11:09] <nmorse> It just wants to move the kernel to 2.6.10-5
[11:10] <crimsun> nmorse: do you _only_ have hoary deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:11] <nmorse> Yep.
[11:11] <_mrj> breezy yep
[11:11] <_mrj> Knowerrors: breezy yep
[11:12] <crimsun> nmorse: dpkg -l apt|grep ^ii
[11:14] <nmorse> <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu9
[11:15] <crimsun> hmph
[11:18] <crimsun> did you pass -t hoary?
[11:18] <pipitas> http://www.nomachine.com/news_read.php?idnews=171
[11:18] <pipitas> http://www.nomachine.com/sources.php
[11:18] <pipitas> "Third Maintenance Release of the NX 1.5.0 Server Packages"
[11:18] <pipitas> (includes [K] Ubuntu fixes and new components)
[11:18] <Knowerrors> _mrj: don't know about your gtk engine problem, but for xmms and some others, try kde-look.org , in the "other" section they have skins
[11:21] <nmorse> crimsun: I'm just removing all X packages and the fglrx package and reinstalling them.
[11:26] <chopemax> hi, how advisable is to have a firewall under linux?
[11:28] <miguev> hi
[11:32] <eXistenZ> miguev, imagine if every user as answered you back "hi", and answer every user hi. We'd go into an endless whirl of hi's. Just ask away.
[11:42] <u> mahlzeit.
[11:42] <chopemax> hi, I didn't configure my network during install, how can i do that now?
[11:44] <_kay> still no kdevelop3 in kubuntu dapper :(
[11:44] <_kay> Evening :)
[11:45] <u> c u
[11:45] <james> ok i need help resetting up my install i had a system glitch that wouldn't let my network use anything
[11:45] <Coolio10> how do i add screen resolutions?
[11:46] <Coolio10> james what went wrong
[11:46] <Coolio10> i screwed up three of my installs so i would porbably know
[11:55] <oscar> guenas
[11:55] <oscar> tengo problemas con la tarjeta de sonido alguien puede ayudarme?
[11:56] <oscar> hello?
[11:57] <james> can some help me with getting the nvidia drivers installed correctly
[11:57] <oscar> algun espaol?
[11:58] <oscar> Nadie habla mi idioma?
[12:03] <Hobbsee_away> !nvidia
[12:03] <ubotflu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368