[03:34] <Kilos-> hmm...
[04:09]  * Kilos- waves
[04:40] <Kilos-> hi captine  did you win?
[04:45] <Kilos-> hi mazal
[04:45] <mazal> More oom
[04:53] <Kilos-> hi Tonberry
[05:08] <inetpro> good mornings
[05:08] <Maaz> inetpro: By the way, Kilos- on freenode told me "tell inetpro that worked like a bomb" 7 hours, 6 minutes and 24 seconds ago
[05:08] <Maaz> inetpro: By the way, Kilos- on freenode told me "tell inetpro I had to first delete my ubuntu-za folder in Projects" 7 hours, 4 minutes and 15 seconds ago
[05:09] <inetpro> \o/
[05:10] <Kilos-> hi inetpro
[05:11]  * Kilos- smiling
[05:13] <Kilos-> ty for all the help and patience
[05:22] <inetpro> Kilos-: you're welcome
[05:23] <inetpro> Kilos-: btw, do you like your tail?
[05:23] <mazal> Hi everyone
[05:23] <inetpro> hi mazal
[05:23] <Kilos-> hehehe
[05:23] <mazal> Does anybody know , if I create sub folders in my Thunderbird (gmail) and move messages from inbox into it , if it will mirror that action on the gmail server as well ?
[05:25] <mazal> And what about second pc , will it be mirrored on that pc in thunderbird as well ?
[05:31] <Kilos> sjoe such heavy questions so early in the morning
[05:31] <Kilos> mazal  try it
[05:32] <Kilos> just dont be like me, when i get that advice i break something
[05:39] <inetpro> mazal: with POP3? No, I don't think so
[05:39] <inetpro> but with IMAP? maybe
[05:39]  * inetpro hasn't tried it
[05:44] <mazal> Gonna try and see what happens. Is setup imap cos I have my mail on 2 pc's
[05:45] <mazal> Just can't see what happens on the 2nd one now , that one is at home , but can see what happens on server side at least
[05:47] <mazal> K , server side mirrors , so in theory the home "should" mirror also when started up
[05:47] <Kilos> yip
[05:48] <Kilos> now you know more than most about thunderbird
[05:48] <mazal> Might be a few days with life , eskdom and thunderstorms before I will actually be able to start that one and see lol
[05:49] <Kilos> lol
[05:49]  * mazal misses his portable os :(
[05:49] <mazal> None of these problems then
[05:49] <Kilos> make one on a stick like me man
[05:50] <Kilos> use remastersys iso to install to a stick
[05:50] <mazal> I used have my os on an external hdd. Then everything went where I went. Used at work and at home. And then the gaming thing happened and couldn't do that anymore :(
[05:50] <mazal> Worked like a bomb that , just started up a bit slower , but once everything was loaded the actual work speed was the same
[05:51]  * mazal HAS to make a plan to get the gaming pc sperate on it's own
[05:52] <Kilos> lol
[05:53] <mazal> Space is the onlu issue , I have the equipment
[05:53] <mazal> But don't have spave for the 2nd pc
[05:53] <Kilos> are you listening to me
[05:53] <mazal> Nee oom is gonna say "Stop gaming"
[05:53] <mazal> Not a good plan that :)
[05:53] <Kilos> i have a fully working unity 12.04 on a stick
[05:54] <Kilos> can plug in on any pc that accepts usb boot and i have everything there, tools and all
[05:54] <mazal> I still have my external and can do that again. But with just the one pc it's a continues rebooting process between work and gaming
[05:54] <Kilos> and sticks dont need space
[05:55] <mazal> And then can't keep my email open when gaming etc.
[05:55] <Kilos> oic your prob
[05:55] <Padroni> Morning
[05:55] <mazal> My work pc I like to have all my things open and like to quickly go check on web for info when needed. But then I have to reboot all the time
[05:55] <Kilos> better than gaming lots why not learn stuff
[05:56] <mazal> Is same as dual boot then , and I hate that
[05:56] <mazal> Morning Padroni
[05:56] <mazal> Bullfight !!! gotta run !!
[05:56] <Kilos> hi  Padroni
[05:56]  * Padroni 's only had one cup of coffee... beware the grumpy
[05:56] <Kilos> hahaha
[05:56] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[05:56]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[05:57] <Padroni> I have the pleasure of trying to sort out a misdirected section 205 subpoena today
[05:57] <Kilos> Padroni  have some cyber coffee
[05:57] <Padroni> else I have to fly to PTA for a court case tomorrow morning
[05:57]  * Padroni is not impressed with the SAPS today
[05:57] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:58] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry
[05:58] <Padroni> and what's worse
[05:58] <Padroni> ( hi Jacques_Stry)
[05:58] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[05:58] <Padroni> I told this investigating officer MORE THAN A WEEK BACK to fix the subpoena else I cannot testify in their case
[05:59] <Padroni> now time has run out and this twat still hasn't done his job
[05:59] <Kilos> ai!

[06:00] <Jacques_Stry> Any of you tried using a stereo bluetooth headset with ubuntu?
[06:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:01] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[06:01] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[06:01] <Padroni> meh
[06:01] <Padroni> I don't have a headset at all
[06:02] <Jacques_Stry> Pulsaudio keeps crashing...
[06:02] <Kilos> ai!
[06:03] <Kilos> install synaptic
[06:03] <Kilos> open and type in pulse at the top
[06:03] <Kilos> then right click reinstall all that shows as installed
[06:03] <Jacques_Stry> will try
[06:04] <Kilos> i only had pulse issues up till 11.10
[06:04] <Jacques_Stry> Everything works fine with internal sound card - but as soon as I connect my bluetooth headset - pulse crash
[06:05] <Kilos> ai!
[06:09] <Kilos> Maaz  assumption
[06:09] <Maaz> An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts
[06:10]  * Kilos assumes that if i take everything in in my ubuntu-za folder and copy it to ubuntu-africa folder it should show a mirror site
[06:16] <Jacques_Stry> brb
[06:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[06:24] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:30] <inetpro> lol
[06:31] <inetpro> hello ThatGraemeGuy
[06:34] <inetpro> Kilos: that was like a premeditated offense
[06:34] <Kilos> rofl
[06:34] <Kilos> i was waiting for ai! you disappointed me
[06:36] <Kilos> im going the whole bzr route to make ubuntu-africa, just will wait and see what happens if its in same Projects folder
[06:39] <Kilos> Projects means more than 1 imo
[06:54] <Kilos> oh my
[06:55] <Kilos> now i dont know if it is in ubuntu-africa or ubuntu-za
[06:56]  * Kilos needs to give permissions to someone with a brain
[07:09]  * Padroni only uses his brain on birthdays and special occasions
[07:10] <Kilos> lol
[07:11] <Kilos> lo highvoltage  hope we arent driving you mad with all the jabbering
[07:25] <Padroni> I am busy at work but linger here inbetween tasks
[07:26] <Padroni>  so use my name when addressing me so that I can see it stand out on my side
[07:26] <Kilos> good
[07:26] <Kilos> will do
[07:26] <Padroni> Looks like I am flying to PTA to testify in a fraud case
[07:26]  * Padroni remains not impressed
[07:26] <Kilos> ai!
[07:29] <Kilos> TinuvaMac  hi there
[07:29] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[08:02] <inetpro> Padroni: we call that pinging... eg. ping me if you need my inputs
[08:02] <inetpro> wb TinuvaMac
[08:02] <Kilos> inetpro  idea
[08:03] <Kilos> we need to collect all these mac peeps to support others that need mac help
[08:03] <Kilos> ive never seen a mac
[08:09] <inetpro> Kilos: not here, please!
[08:10] <Kilos> lol
[08:10] <inetpro> macs are overrated
[08:11] <Kilos> man im thinking of the guys with macs that want ubuntu on them
[08:11] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel
[08:11] <Kilos> did you think i want to learn mac??
[08:11] <Kilos> ai!
[08:11] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[08:12] <inetpro> Kilos: Defective by Design
[08:15] <Kilos> so what do you suggest then, advising them to buy proper pcs, or helping them get ubuntu going on their mac?
[08:16] <Kilos> if all you had was a mac wouldny=t you want help?
[08:16] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:16] <Kilos> wouldnt
[08:17] <inetpro> no Kilos no!!!! I don't even want the stuff as a gift
[08:18] <Kilos> lol
[08:18] <TinuvaMac> rofl
[08:18] <TinuvaMac> i love osx on my mac, not going to install ubuntu on here
[08:18] <TinuvaMac> what I will do, is use osx for desktop, ubuntu/centos on my servers :)
[08:18] <Kilos> maybe we must find someone that will donate one to the cause and ill work it out
[08:19] <TinuvaMac> actually getting any linux to work on a mac is a mission
[08:19] <magespawn> good day
[08:19] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[08:19] <magespawn> sorry for the abrupt departure last night
[08:19] <Kilos> np
[08:20] <magespawn> busy testing one of the wireless links in the middle of nowhere
[08:21] <Kilos> ami i put a wireless adapter card thing in here and setting up sisters tablet to use my 3g was easy
[08:21] <Kilos> she is very happy
[08:21] <magespawn> cool beans Kilos
[08:22] <Kilos> voda had no data connection here for over 2 months nbow
[08:22] <Kilos> she has even bought telkom sims for her bb and tablet
[08:22] <magespawn> wow and i thought i was doing badly when one of my links goes down for two days
[08:23] <Kilos> their survice stinks here
[08:23] <Kilos> service
[08:23] <magespawn> chat later got to finish off here
[08:24] <Kilos> ok
[08:57] <mazal> What a nice day :)
[08:57] <mazal> Many blessings today
[08:57] <Kilos> yay
[09:02] <Squirm> morning
[09:03] <mazal> Morning Squirm
[09:05] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[09:05]  * mazal fiddles
[09:16] <inetpro> wb cocooncrash
[09:16] <inetpro> mazal: what you fiddling with?
[09:17] <inetpro> is it your birthday?
[09:17] <mazal> uhm.....
[09:17] <mazal> Other people's settings :)
[09:18] <inetpro> ai!
[09:18] <mazal> I haven't broken anything in a while , I'm loosing my touch :P
[09:19] <Kilos> lol
[09:19] <Kilos> inetpro  keep youre thinking cap close by hey!
[09:20] <Kilos> and keep an eye open for captine
[09:20] <inetpro> uh
[09:21] <Kilos> lol that doesnt sound good
[09:22] <mazal> Oh and no , it's not my birthday
[09:23] <inetpro> Kilos: uh is used to express hesitation
[09:23] <Kilos> thats right
[09:24] <Kilos> you got two chances
[09:24] <mazal> Shees I hope we have power tonight , have soooooo much to do
[09:24] <Kilos> dogs chance and no chance
[09:28] <mazal> Sjoe I really hope so
[09:42] <Kilos> you just want to game mazal
[10:13] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[10:15] <SDCDev> hey Kilos :)
[10:15] <SDCDev> how are you?
[10:16] <Kilos> very good ty and you?
[10:16] <Kilos> or until the fly tells me i did things wrong
[10:17] <Kilos> soos hoe verander ek die eerste bladsy
[10:18] <Kilos> maybe its in what you guys call code
[10:31] <inetpro> Kilos: http://getnikola.com/blog/new-nikola-tutorial.html
[10:31] <Kilos> i think i have that
[10:31] <Kilos> ill look anyway ty
[10:33] <inetpro> but maybe you should looks at, Creating a Site (Not a Blog) with Nikola http://getnikola.com/creating-a-site-not-a-blog-with-nikola.html
[10:33] <Kilos> the fly said he would do that for me
[10:33] <Kilos> he at least knows what he is doing
[10:34] <Kilos> namibia has made contact yay
[10:34] <inetpro> also see: http://getnikola.com/documentation.html
[10:35] <Kilos> eish
[10:35] <inetpro> Kilos: RTFD
[10:36] <Kilos> you saw where rtfd got us over the last 2 days
[10:36] <inetpro> WB bmg505
[10:36] <Kilos> wb bmg505
[10:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> re-fit the fridge doors?
[10:36] <Kilos> lol
[10:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> rearrange the floor decorations
[10:36] <Kilos> read the flippin docs
[10:36] <Kilos> he kills me
[10:37] <inetpro> ThatGraemeGuy: keeps him busy :-)
[10:37] <Kilos> no man too much is too much
[10:39] <Kilos> he forgets ThatGraemeGuy  if i peg off he has to take over then he must read them
[10:42] <inetpro> ok Kilos, if you don't want to read all the docs then at least go check the bzr logs
[10:43] <Kilos> i have
[10:43] <inetpro> you can see the history of all changes
[10:43] <Kilos> see  lots of commits but not the stuff that was commited
[10:43] <inetpro> maybe catch a tip or two by looking at the files that changed
[10:43] <Kilos> eish
[10:44] <Padroni> "Spool file is locked (another process is handling this message)
[10:44] <inetpro> go to the trunk folder and type: bzr qlog
[10:44] <Padroni> how do I kill that mail before it goes out?
[10:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> by the time you have an answer it's probably too late
[10:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> first step would've been stop your mail daemon
[10:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> second step would be to google "remove message from $MAIL_DAEMON queue" :)
[10:46] <Padroni> nah it's fine
[10:46] <Kilos> ai! No command 'qlog' found, did you mean:
[10:46] <Padroni> iwll let this one slide
[10:46] <Padroni> took out 125 others out of their queue
[10:46] <Padroni> and suspended the account
[10:46] <inetpro> Kilos: where did you hide when we had that discussion?
[10:46] <inetpro> aptitude install qbzr
[10:46] <Padroni> non-compliance with Section 45 of the ECT Act of 2002
[10:46] <Kilos> good job Padroni  keep it up
[10:47] <Kilos> inetpro  maybe i was sleeping or lying down or gardening or shepherding or cooking
[10:50] <mazal> Oom kilos issie
[10:50] <mazal> Baie werk
[10:50] <Kilos> lol
[10:50] <Kilos> jaja
[10:51] <mazal> Washing do , food make , weekly imaging , weekly archiving , budget do , payments list do
[10:51] <Kilos> ok
[10:51] <Kilos> No command 'qlog' found, did you mean:
[10:51] <mazal> And then if there is time left , some gaming
[10:53] <Kilos> inetpro  must qlog also be run from trunk?
[10:53] <inetpro> Kilos: 12/02 12:44:37 <inetpro> go to the trunk folder and type: bzr qlog
[10:54] <Kilos> doesnt work
[10:56] <inetpro> Maaz: it doesn't work
[10:56] <Maaz> Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.
[10:57] <Kilos> 12/02/2015 12:51] <Kilos> No command 'qlog' found, did you mean:
[10:58] <Kilos> i even tried closing and opening a new konsole
[10:58] <Padroni> lol Maaz
[10:58] <inetpro> Kilos: 12/02 12:46:50 <inetpro> aptitude install qbzr
[10:58] <inetpro> did you do that ^^ ?
[10:59] <Kilos> yessir inetpro
[10:59] <inetpro> ai!
[10:59]  * inetpro gives up
[10:59] <Kilos> you are right ai!
[11:01] <Kilos> maybe its because i used the same Projects folder and lots of the commands showed already latest version or something like that
[11:08] <Kilos> hmm... look what i found! bzr-explorer
[12:05]  * Padroni is STILL doing mail queues
[12:23] <Kilos-> ai! something happening with connection
[12:23] <Kilos-> tower sicker
[13:10] <mazal> Bye everyone
[13:10] <mazal> Have a nice evening , God bless
[13:30] <Kilos> ai! something bad happening here
[13:34] <Padroni> what is it with your connection Kilos?
[13:45] <Padroni> maaz
[13:47] <Padroni> Maaz
[13:47] <Padroni> !seen Kilos
[13:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: seen kilos
[13:47] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: kilos was last seen 17 minutes and 2 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-02-12 05:30:28 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-12 05:39:15 PST
[13:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> who is maaz's boss?
[13:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: who is your owner?
[13:49] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: Not a clue, sorry
[13:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: who is your mater?
[13:49] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: Erk, dunno
[13:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: who is your master?
[13:49] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: I'm afraid I have no idea
[13:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: you are useless
[13:49] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: I already know stuff about you
[13:52] <Padroni> ah
[13:52] <Padroni> so he needs to be addressed directly
[13:52] <Padroni> how you doing, ThatGraemeGuy?
[13:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> good thanks, you?
[13:52] <Padroni> still busy with mail logs
[13:52] <Padroni> whole day operation
[13:52] <Padroni> :(
[13:53] <Padroni> I got to shut down some major spammers though
[13:53] <Padroni> which makes it feel  a bit better
[14:00] <Padroni> wb Kilos
[14:00] <Kilos> ai! i hate protocol
[14:00] <Kilos> ty Padroni
[14:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: who owns/runs/codes Maaz?
[14:01] <Kilos> even fone keeps disconnecting but they first have to go through my settings with n=me
[14:01] <Kilos> cocooncrash
[14:02] <Kilos> you got probs ThatGraemeGuy
[14:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> great
[14:02] <Kilos> crash kid is in silicon valley
[14:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> not really problems, but it reports times in american timezones which is kinda annoying for people who are mostly in UTC+2
[14:03] <Kilos> oh my
[14:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> example:
[14:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: seen cocooncrash
[14:03] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: cocooncrash was last seen 7 months, 4 days, 20 hours, 20 minutes and 13 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-07-12 10:43:21 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-12 01:08:23 PST
[14:03] <Kilos> the bot is in germany as well
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> how many average South Africans know what PDT and PST are? :-)
[14:04] <Kilos> not me anyway
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe its time i got back into the bot business
[14:04] <Kilos> jibu  seen cocooncrash
[14:04] <jibu> Kilos: cocooncrash has been offline on freenode since 2015-02-12 09:08:22 UTC
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> see UTC is better
[14:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> i didn't even know there was another bot in here
[14:33] <Kilos> sigh
[14:37] <Kilos> whats your fone number, what number are you having problems with, what modem are you using, lets go through all your settings
[14:38] <Kilos> then i say please right down my tower number my fone and modem disconnect at the same time the tower is faulty ,
[14:38] <Kilos> we have to go through your settings first, we will call you back
[14:38] <Kilos> grrrr
[14:39] <Kilos> but i see in nm now this tower shows 4g lte as well
[14:57] <Kilos> lets see now
[15:29] <magespawn> good afternoon all
[15:30] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[15:33] <magespawn> arrrgh
[15:34] <Kilos> what
[15:35] <magespawn> i am not allowed to say, it would probably vilote the t&c of the channel
[15:36] <Kilos> lol
[15:37] <inetpro> hmm...
[15:38] <Kilos> Maaz  hmm...
[15:38] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[15:38] <Kilos> my connection is so slow now but at least its stable
[15:43] <inetpro> Kilos: you been having funny conversations with yourself?
[15:43] <Kilos> ranting and venting you okes call it
[15:43] <inetpro> ai
[15:43] <Kilos> im cross with telkom
[15:44] <Kilos> connection bad and even keeps dropping fone call but they first want to go with some stupid procedure
[15:44] <Kilos> i know when a tower is faulty
[15:44] <Kilos> grrr
[15:47] <Kilos> inetpro  maybe you know, is it fine to do multiple sites in one Projects folder?
[15:48] <Kilos> they arent going to interfere with each other are they
[15:49] <magespawn> is each one in a seperate folder inside the Projects folder?
[15:50] <Kilos> ya
[15:50] <magespawn> i think that should be okay then
[15:51] <Kilos> but they do share stuff because it tells you you already have such a file
[15:51] <magespawn> as far as i know all the files are stored inside the respective site folders
[15:51] <magespawn> mmm not sure then
[15:56] <Kilos> im actually enjoying bzr and nikola now it works
[16:00] <magespawn> things that work are best
[16:01] <Kilos> lol
[16:02] <Kilos> i was getting to hate the word error
[16:10] <magespawn> indeed
[16:11] <magespawn> but it is noce when you sort it all out
[16:11] <magespawn> s/noce/nice
[16:11] <Kilos> yeah feels good
[16:11] <magespawn> so you like a web guru now too?
[16:11] <Kilos> nono learning
[16:12] <magespawn> aren't we all?
[16:12] <Kilos> made a site for africa but use the za info so its like a clone just start from a different folder
[16:13] <Kilos> gotta here what fly says about it
[16:13] <Kilos> not sure if its easier to edit an existing one or build from scratch
[16:15] <magespawn> i would think edit, but then i have not used nikola yet
[16:18] <Kilos> i would think it would be easier because much can stay the same
[16:18] <Kilos> basically just name change and info to mails etc
[16:19] <magespawn> and some of the graphics
[16:52] <magespawn> Kilos: you connection messing you around
[16:52] <magespawn> ?
[16:53] <Kilos> ya telkom has network probs they say
[16:53] <Kilos> sorry for the part/joins
[16:53] <magespawn> well that much is obviaaaas
[16:53] <magespawn> no worries
[16:53] <Kilos> lol
[17:03] <magespawn> brb just switching to the other lalptop
[17:03] <magespawn> laptop too
[17:12] <magespawn> right back
[17:12] <Kilos> wb
[17:28] <magespawn> ty looks like things are set to irritate me here tonight
[17:29] <Kilos> oh my
[17:29] <magespawn> but i am working through them, going to take a break and have some dinner
[17:29] <magespawn> always easier to think with a full stomach
[17:29] <Kilos> enjoy
[17:30] <Kilos> yeash
[17:42] <magespawn> Kilos yo wathcing the state of the natio address?
[17:43] <magespawn> you wathcing
[17:43] <magespawn> ai
[17:43] <Kilos> oh my
[17:43] <magespawn> watching
[17:43] <Kilos> stae of the nation circus
[17:43] <magespawn> that too
[17:45] <magespawn> Kilos: what are you using to chat with, software?
[17:45] <Kilos> huh?
[17:46] <magespawn> what chat software are you using?
[17:46] <Kilos> combination on soft and hardware
[17:46] <Kilos> here konversation
[17:46] <magespawn> right, and else where?
[17:46] <Kilos> everywhere else pidgin
[17:49] <Kilos> hi captine
[17:50] <captine> hi there
[17:50] <captine> anyone watching parliament implode
[17:50] <magespawn> hi captine
[17:50] <Kilos> ya
[17:50] <magespawn> i am really liking irssi
[17:50] <Kilos> sad to see
[17:50] <magespawn> and i have not scratched the service yet
[17:51] <Kilos> magespawn  i have too much in head to even try using something that needs more thinking
[17:51] <magespawn> i will need nore alcohol than i can afford to be able to deal with tonight as well
[17:51] <captine> yip.  i tried irssi before, but like my gui :)
[17:51] <Kilos> konverstaion like xchat and hexchat just work
[17:52] <magespawn> captine i am learning to do almost all my work on th cli, as far as is possible
[17:52] <Kilos> hey captine  i found a gui thing for bzr
[17:52] <magespawn> connected via ssh to two mikrotik routers today
[17:53] <Kilos> whats ahppening that you have hassles tonight magespawn
[17:53] <Kilos> happening too
[17:53] <magespawn> windows 7 pc with lts of malware on it, but the installed kind
[17:54] <Kilos> look at
[17:54] <Kilos> addaware
[17:54] <magespawn> so only user ignorance to blame here
[17:54] <magespawn> and full pc scans take so long
[17:56] <magespawn> problem is this machine also runs the pos and the hotel management software
[17:56] <Kilos> oh my
[17:56] <Kilos> convert them all to linux man
[17:56] <Kilos> are they paying you to work all night?
[17:57] <captine> wow.  how can our parliament people be so thick to not be able to answer a simple question.. yes or no.  was it the police or not.
[17:57] <magespawn> no not really, but that depends on how you look at things i suppose
[17:58] <magespawn> captine: unfortunately that is not the thickness that is just the way politians speak
[17:58] <Kilos> ya you answer lies with more lies
[17:58] <magespawn> not outright lies either, misdirection
[17:59] <Kilos> yeah
[17:59] <captine> lol magespawn
[17:59] <captine> i hear u
[17:59] <magespawn> and you have to a have fast mind to keep this sort of thing going
[18:00] <Kilos> yeah nothing wrong with their thinking processes
[18:00] <magespawn> if they just used have of that brain power for running the country, we would all be doing very well
[18:00] <magespawn> s/have/half
[18:00] <Kilos> actually shocking
[18:02] <captine> yip.  i hear on twitter that parliamentary security wont let journalists out to see the EFF and DA etc...
[18:03] <magespawn> there are journos outside, just saw some of them trying to get a statment from one of the EFF members
[18:03] <captine> cool.
[18:03] <captine> no tv
[18:03] <captine> only streaming and watching youtube
[18:04] <captine> and twitter
[18:05] <magespawn> spelling out the wazo tonight
[18:05] <magespawn> statement
[18:10] <magespawn> captine how far into irssi did you get?
[18:12] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[18:13] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:16] <captine> installed
[18:16] <captine> connected... left on a couple days.. then moved on
[18:16] <captine> cannot remember that one that can run on a remote server and have a gui to connect to???  Kilos, I think you tried it once
[18:17] <captine> I was wanting to leave it on my digitalocean droplet... anyone here use digitalocean?
[18:17] <Kilos> that one?
[18:17] <captine> can get 2 months free which is pretty cool... but i used the free up a year or so ago... :)
[18:19] <Kilos> captine  you need to use a trigger word
[18:19] <captine> lol
[18:19] <captine> i am looking for it
[18:19] <Kilos> oh you mean quassel
[18:20] <captine> yip
[18:20] <captine> quassel
[18:26] <captine> ok.  question.  Have powerful ubuntu desktop (laptop parts, but nice machine) and an underpowered xubuntu install on a old machine.  Want to remote desktop to the powerful one...  best tool?
[18:27] <Kilos> lol explain that in english
[18:27] <Kilos> oh
[18:28] <Kilos> you want to remote to the desktop from the lappy?
[18:28] <Kilos> what do you want to do on it
[18:29] <Kilos> how are they connected to each other? eth?
[18:30] <Kilos> wb magespaw1
[18:31] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[18:31] <magespawn> in and out as they say
[18:32] <Kilos> lol
[18:32] <captine> one on ethernet... other on wifi or ethernet... depending where I am :)
[18:32] <Kilos> why do you want to remote to it captine
[18:32] <captine> just for remoting in to see some gui items... but using ssh as well, for most setups
[18:32] <Kilos> remmina?
[18:33] <captine> well, it is in the spare room and my mom inlaw is visiting, so I want to be able to setup vm
[18:33] <Kilos> teamviewer
[18:33] <magespawn> you know what is funny about ethernet?
[18:33] <captine> vms on it remotely
[18:34] <Kilos> i used remmina once to completely take over a win7 pc
[18:35] <Kilos> was the same as sitting at the win7 machine
[18:36] <captine> cool.  i use that when connecting to work from ubuntu
[18:37] <Kilos> hasnt x got the remote desktop tool there
[18:37] <captine> let me get my apt-cacher server done, then i will install the software
[18:42] <magespawn> yoo yo
[18:42] <magespawn> too tired to even think at the moment
[18:42] <Kilos> hehe
[18:42] <Kilos> ai!
[18:43] <magespawn> the win pc is full of malware that it could not even get online properly
[18:43] <Kilos> dsid you look at addaware magespawn
[18:44] <Kilos> http://www.lavasoft.com/
[18:44] <magespawn> yes i did thanks
[18:46] <Kilos> superfly  thanks for stepping up for our second contact person position
[18:50] <Kilos> oh my
[18:50] <Kilos> ive deleted my africa folder
[18:50] <Kilos> ai!
[18:55] <magespawn> oops
[18:55] <magespawn> why?
[18:55] <Kilos> ya oops
[18:56] <Kilos> by accident
[18:56] <Kilos> and it worked too
[18:56]  * Kilos cries
[18:56] <magespawn> redo it then
[18:56] <Kilos> i will but also kinda tired
[18:56] <Kilos> eish
[18:57] <magespawn> i know how that feels
[18:57] <Kilos> and shift delete has no mercy, its just gone
[18:58] <magespawn> yup no redo on that
[18:59] <Kilos> trash cans have their advantages i suppose
[19:03] <captine> i am loving the speed of xubuntu
[19:03] <Kilos> nice and fast yes
[19:03] <captine> hey superfly.  thanks from here to for doing the contact...
[19:03] <Kilos> good on slow machines
[19:07] <magespawn> scan has now been going for almost two hours and is about 75% complete
[19:07] <magespawn> madness
[19:11] <Kilos> w0000t
[19:11] <magespawn> xubuntu is my choice too. lubuntu just comes with too many restrictions
[19:11] <Kilos> found it in Projects
[19:11] <magespawn> nice one
[19:12] <magespawn> begs the question, what did you delete?
[19:12] <Kilos> thats why i thought it was deleted by accident, looked in wrong place
[19:12] <Kilos> i dont know
[19:12] <Kilos> sssshh
[19:12] <Kilos> maybe ill forget
[19:13] <Kilos> till i need it
[19:20] <Kilos> hi kulelu88
[19:20] <Kilos> where you been man
[19:21] <Kilos> you gotta give notice a day before away time
[19:21] <Kilos> i had no one to help me
[19:21] <kulelu88> Hi
[19:22] <kulelu88> Does anyone use Sublime Text here?
[19:22] <kulelu88> I'm trying to copy all the text that is specific to my regex
[19:22] <Kilos> very quiet, youll have to hang a while
[19:26] <inetpro> good mornings
[19:26] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[19:26] <inetpro> oh hello Kilos, again
[19:27] <Kilos> well its morning iyo so must be a day since you terrorised me last
[19:27] <inetpro> looks like you getting used to the late nights
[19:28] <Kilos> lol oh is that why you waited so late to greet
[19:28] <Kilos> skelm
[19:29] <Kilos> help kulelu88  if you can?
[19:29] <Kilos> !
[19:29] <Kilos> please
[19:29] <kulelu88> it's "Find All"
[19:30] <inetpro> uh
[19:31] <kulelu88> what a kak day, and I haven't even watch zuma give his speech yet
[19:38] <magespawn> gotta go, good night all
[20:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:27] <captine> night


[00:47] <kuwer> Hello!
[00:47] <kuwer> I want to install a driver for my nvidia geforce 8400 cs video card
[00:48] <kuwer> I am following this tutorial http://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-nvidia-graphics-drivers-in-ubuntu-linux but it seems different
[00:48] <kuwer> Perhaps it was donne for an older ubuntu server version
[00:48] <kuwer> Could someone help me please?
[00:48] <kuwer> I already downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.102.run file from nvidia website
[01:08] <sarnold> kuwer: that guide looks eight years old or so. it's probably fair to ignore it entirely.
[01:09] <patdk-l2> I always thought you just install the normal nvidia package and be done with it
[01:09] <patdk-l2> unless you want to do something odd, like use cuba in your applications for like bitcoin
[01:09] <patdk-l2> then your going have hell and be mostly on your own, cause that crap is not fun
[01:09] <kuwer> patdk-l2: well, yes. I need Cuba, OpenCL
[01:09] <sarnold> I don't think anyone does bitcoin mining on gpus anymore
[01:09] <patdk-l2> atleast I gave up on it, and it takes a lot to do that
[01:10] <patdk-l2> sarnold, I know a guy that just setup 12 amd video cards for it this week
[01:10] <kuwer> I am not mining bitcoins but other coinis
[01:10] <sarnold> patdk-l2: yikes
[01:10] <kuwer> yeah, Bytecoin, Ethereum, well there is hundreds
[01:11] <sarnold> this wiki page suggests 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' is a good starting point https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:11] <sarnold> what's funny is it jumps from that right into installing nvidia-nnn   -- maybe nvidia users are forced to install the new driver updates by hand? dunno..
[01:11] <patdk-l2> they have to
[01:11] <sarnold> anyway based on this wiki the first thing I'd try is "apt-get install nvidia-375"
[01:12] <patdk-l2> cause the ones in ubuntu don't have the cuba stuff in them
[01:12] <patdk-l2> get a intel phi :)
[01:12] <kuwer> The correct driver for my video card is NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.102
[01:15] <kuwer> I could use wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.102/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.102.run
[01:15] <kuwer> chmod u+x NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-190.42-pkg2.run
[01:15] <kuwer> ups
[01:16] <kuwer> chmod u+x 340.102/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.102.run
[01:16] <kuwer> chmod u+x NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.102.run
[01:16] <kuwer> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[01:16] <kuwer> Is that necessary?
[01:17] <sarnold> probably; you have to compile portions of the drivers on your system
[01:20] <kuwer> How about https://askubuntu.com/questions/66328/how-do-i-install-the-latest-nvidia-drivers-from-the-run-file
[01:28] <kuwer> Used chmod +x driver
[01:28] <kuwer> then sudo ./driver.run
[01:29] <kuwer> And http://imgur.com/a/Vk5iu
[01:29] <sarnold> kuwer: pastebin the logfile?
[01:29] <sarnold> (the pastebinit tool from the pastebinit package can make that easy)
[01:29] <kuwer> sarnold: this is the log file
[01:30] <sarnold> is that the WHOLE log file? or just the last few lines?
[01:30] <kuwer> last few lines
[01:31] <sarnold> good good :) pastebin the whole thing and then we might stand a chance of spotting the error
[01:31] <kuwer> how can I send out from the server this line?
[01:32] <sarnold> apt-get install pastebinit ; pastebinit /var/log/nvidia-installers.log
[01:33] <kuwer> paste.ubuntu.com/24812224
[01:34] <kuwer> Perhaps this driver was not meant to server
[01:34] <sarnold> WARNING: You do not appear to have an NVIDIA GPU supported by the 340.102 NVIDIA Linux graphics driver installed in this system
[01:35] <sarnold> are you sure that your card is supported by this driver/ I hear they are aggressive about dropping support for 'old' hardware
[01:36] <kuwer> This is not the latest driver
[01:36] <kuwer> I went to nvidia and check for my video card model driver
[01:36] <kuwer> And this is the one it pointed me to
[01:38] <kuwer> As http://imgur.com/a/vHo8c
[01:39] <kuwer> Maybe I should Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.";
[01:40] <sarnold> I don't think that would help
[01:43] <sarnold> kuwer: the patches on https://gist.github.com/tpruzina look promising
[01:44] <sarnold> kuwer: from your pastebin, the actual errors are starting on lines 3588 and then in 3598
[01:44] <sarnold> all look like hotplug cpu related
[01:44] <sarnold> kuwer: so try making the same changes that the patch that disables the hotplug support ..
[01:45] <kuwer> Well, something I got to say is I am running this Ubuntu Server on a VirtualBox machine just to test.
[01:46] <patdk-l2> dunno how that would work
[01:46] <kuwer> Probably I will be doing the same procedure soon on a ssd driver I am waiting
[01:51] <kuwer> I don´t think there is path for my driver version
[01:52] <sarnold> did you pass the pci through?
[01:52] <kuwer> what do you mean, sorry
[01:53] <sarnold> in order to use devices inside vms you have to use pci passthrough
[01:53] <sarnold> I've never tried it before
[01:54] <kuwer> Oh, not really.
[01:54] <kuwer> Let me check that
[01:58] <kuwer> Not sure where to set PCIE
[01:58] <kuwer> Checking
[02:10] <kuwer> Don´t think my BIOS has BIOS that has the IOMMU
[07:42] <lordievader[m]> Good morning
[09:12] <jamespage> coreycb: checklist via PPA for pike b2 - https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2808/+packages
[13:03] <zul> jamespage:  looks like you need zunclient now
[13:03] <jamespage> zul: and some
[13:03] <jamespage> zul: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=python
[13:03] <zul> ahaha
[15:19] <hashwagon> Hey nacc, do you have any example of a preseed copy? A file copy from USB/CDROM to the newly installed system if possible. Google isn't being useful to me.
[15:24] <nacc> hashwagon: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt down at the advanced options
[15:25] <nacc> hashwagon: that's how you run any old shell command
[15:26] <nacc> mwhudson: jamespage: is it expected that there is no python-celery-sphinx? I think the new celery is loading a module from it, but there's only python3-celery-sphinx, afaict
[15:26] <nacc> s/celery-sphinx/sphinx-celery/
[15:26] <tomreyn> hashwagon: a more complex example: https://github.com/gc3-uzh-ch/openstack-tools/blob/master/etc/ubuntu-preseed.cfg#L489
[15:27] <nacc> tomreyn: nice, thanks!
[15:27] <tomreyn> and here you got a copy https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-installer/2007-December/000130.html
[15:28] <tomreyn> oops this one doesn't work, sorry
[15:31] <tomreyn> this one uses 'cp' an is said to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization/PreseedExamples
[15:38] <jamespage> nacc: hmm that's odd
[15:38] <jamespage> I would expect both versions
[15:38]  * jamespage looks
[15:45] <hashwagon> tomreyn, nacc, thanks guys.
[15:51] <mwhudson> nacc: no idea
[16:08] <nacc> jamespage: yeah, it's surprising to me -- i also only see python3 in debian (afaict)
[16:08] <nacc> mwhudson: np, thanks
[16:09] <jamespage> nacc: apparently that's right but I have no idea why there is no py2
[16:09] <jamespage> maybe the maintainer was being visionary!
[16:10] <nacc> jamespage: yeah, and i think celery won't build without the py2 -- or I have to dig a bit into the internals
[16:27] <nacc> jamespage: i'm looking to see if it's easy to add -- it seems like it's unexpected to only be py2 (and the debian side is just a trival stdeb generated thing (it seems). I wonder if it's just oversight
[16:57] <nacc> jamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24816633/ it builds. I'm verifying the autopkgtest now
[17:03] <nacc> jamespage: tests pass, and it is exactly what fails with celery (import'ing sphinx_celery) :)
[17:52] <hashwagon> Is it normal for a 16.04 server preceed install to have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" in /etc/default/grub? This prevents me from booting to a tty unless I remove quiet and splash.
[17:56] <hashwagon> sed command to resolve that: http://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/project/minnow/current/Ubuntu_16.04_RAID1_preseed.cfg - odd behavior though..
[18:19] <jerichowasahoax> I created a new apache2 vhost at a specific subdomain, and now my default vhost is being clobbered. What gives?
[18:21] <compdoc> creator typo
[18:21] <jerichowasahoax> The vhost in question: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/aZwN2OyZqjb3ee74YiZQ/
[18:22] <jerichowasahoax> Note there are no wildcards in that vhost, and yet it's answering to ALL requests, not just ones directed at mantis.lavacano.net
[18:22] <jerichowasahoax> I've currently disabled that site configuration.
[18:23] <jerichowasahoax> Google says something about a NameVirtualHost directive but it doesn't appear to actually do anything
[18:25] <sarnold> "If multiple virtual hosts contain the best matching IP address and port, the server selects from these virtual hosts the best match based on the requested hostname. If no matching name-based virtual host is found, then the first listed virtual host that matched the IP address will be used. As a consequence, the first listed virtual host for a given IP address and port combination is the default virtual host for that IP and port combi
[18:25] <sarnold> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#virtualhost
[18:25] <sarnold> that's my guess..
[18:26] <jerichowasahoax> sarnold: Assuming 000-default.conf is parsed before 100-mantis.conf, then *:80 should come first and take priority, no?
[18:26] <sarnold> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/ suggests using apachectl -S  to dump the parsed configuration as a useful troubleshooting tip
[18:26] <sarnold> jerichowasahoax: I'd hope so :)
[18:29] <tomreyn> jerichowasahoax: instead of <VirtualHost mantis.lavacano.net:80> you'd usually use <VirtualHost <IP_ADDRESS>:80>
[18:29] <tomreyn> using hostnames there is "not recommended"
[18:29] <tomreyn> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#virtualhost
[18:30] <jerichowasahoax> tomreyn: But that IP address points to a couple different FQDNs, as I'm sure you noticed while you were checking my DNS records
[18:30] <tomreyn> jerichowasahoax: if you mean the alias, there's only one
[18:30] <tomreyn> mantis.lavacano.net is an alias for andariel.lavacano.net.
[18:30] <jerichowasahoax> tomreyn: Not the CNAME, the IP itself
[18:31] <jerichowasahoax> tomaw: and andariel.lavacano.net when contacted directly should be serving different content
[18:31] <jerichowasahoax> er
[18:31] <tomreyn> oh your mean PTR records?
[18:31] <jerichowasahoax> tomreyn: see above
[18:31] <tomreyn> that's what ServerName is for
[18:32] <tomreyn> see the example in the docs i pointed to
[18:32] <jerichowasahoax> ServerName isn't working either
[18:32] <tomreyn> VirtualHost uses an ip address, ServerName an FQDN
[18:32] <jerichowasahoax> or now it is
[18:33]  * jerichowasahoax makes a mental note: any virtualhost that isn't <VirtualHost *:80> is practically invalid
[18:34] <tomreyn> if thisis a general statement then i'd disagree
[18:34] <jerichowasahoax> i know the technical explanation is "explicitly defined addresses take priority over wildcards"
[18:34] <jerichowasahoax> which is why "mantis.lavacano.net" was clobbering things
[18:34] <jerichowasahoax> but if I don't overgeneralize I'll just keep screwing that up over and over and over
[18:35] <tomreyn> VirtualHost defines the ip address + port to service this ServerName FQDN on.
[18:35] <jerichowasahoax> tomreyn: apachectl -S was putting "<IP_ADDRESS>:80" over "*:80"
[18:35] <sarnold> ahh because it's more specific..
[18:35] <jerichowasahoax> sarnold: yes
[18:35] <sarnold> sigh stupid complicated mess
[18:36] <jerichowasahoax> to be fair, the google results and docs weren't entirely clear on exactly what i was trying to put where
[18:36] <jerichowasahoax> all they really said was "VirtualHost some.domain.com" and "VirtualHost some.domain2.com"
[18:37] <jerichowasahoax> it didn't occur to me that they were assuming those names had different addresses
[19:39] <SuperLag> Do you folks have any recommendations to *automatically* do some kernel cleanup, so /boot doesn't keeep filling up?
[19:39] <SuperLag> it'd be nice to only keep 2-3 kernels...
[19:39] <compdoc> how about: sudo apt autoremove
[19:41] <sarnold> SuperLag: do you have /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal on your system? it should auto-generate a list of packages to keep in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels that works with /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove
[19:42] <SuperLag> sarnold: I wasn't aware of that. I'll investigate.
[19:42] <SuperLag> thank you, btw!


[11:59] <lk11mn> psusi: its just this isnt it     sudo dmraid -ay sil     (there's no f)
[11:59] <lk11mn> anyway that one doesnt work
[11:59] <Gubluntu> hey
[11:59] <nko> how can i add a new audio track on a divx file?
[12:00] <aios> how can i uninstall a theme?
[12:00] <psusi> lk11mn: it was dmraid -ay -fsil
[12:00] <ameya> server IRC
[12:00] <Answer> Hello, I am running kernel 2.6.15.  Are there any plans for kernel 2.6.16 ?


[01:07] <bkerensa> valorie: You read the Oregonian about Occupy Portland?
[01:07] <bkerensa> Their finance committee stole $20k in donations apparently
[01:08] <valorie> oh god
[01:08] <valorie> no, I hadn't heard
[01:08] <valorie> that destroys trust in a major way
[17:31] <seattlegaucho> http://blog.canonical.com/2011/10/27/retail-stores-in-china/
[17:32] <seattlegaucho> I wonder if they'd ever open one @ the U-Village or Bellevue Sq mall where the Apple and MSFT stores are
[17:32] <bkerensa> Word
[17:34] <shannonlucas> I wish they had some better picture of the advert materials (and some translations)
[17:35] <bkerensa> It would be nice to see Ubuntu billboards and bus ads
[17:35]  * bkerensa had actually though of seeking permission from Canonical to crowdsource a few bus ads in Portland
[17:35] <bkerensa> thought*
[17:36]  * bkerensa is unsure if he would actually need to ask for permission since it would be general advocacy under their trademark policy
[17:36] <shannonlucas> You're an employee though, right? That might complicate it a little bit.
[17:36] <bkerensa> ?
[17:36] <bkerensa> no
[17:36]  * bkerensa is just a contributor
[17:37] <shannonlucas> Oh, I thought you actually worked for Canonical
[17:37] <shannonlucas> :-p
[17:37] <bkerensa> nah :P
[17:37] <bkerensa> there is one person in this channel who does though but not me :D
[17:37]  * bkerensa would not want to work for Canonical
[17:37] <shannonlucas> oh?
[17:37] <bkerensa> :)
[17:38] <shannonlucas> I'm curious. Why?
[17:38] <bkerensa> Too busy as it is with Ubuntu contributing, personal projects, freelance and IRL :P
[17:38] <bkerensa> I would have to end all my freelance and likely stop contributing as much to Ubuntu by 50% or more
[17:38] <bkerensa> :D
[17:39] <shannonlucas> Yeah, that happens in the Drupal world when folks go to work for Acquia.
[17:39]  * bkerensa has no lack of work right now anyways :) I also do tech gadget reviews
[17:39] <bkerensa> and a good portion of the stuff I get from PR Firms I get to keep
[17:40] <bkerensa> in the last few months were talking thousands of dollars in free stuff :P
[18:21] <shannonlucas> bkerensa: that looxcie is a bluetooth camera?
[18:23] <bkerensa> umm idk
[18:23] <bkerensa> LOL
[18:23] <bkerensa> it just came
[18:24] <bkerensa> shannonlucas: Yep Bluetooth and also have iPhone and iPad app
[18:24] <bkerensa> :D
[18:24] <bkerensa> pretty cool
[18:28] <bkerensa> shannonlucas: They sent me two
[18:29] <bkerensa> shannonlucas: One to giveaway to my flock and one for me.... They also will be sending me these new model when it comes out
[18:29] <shannonlucas> The name is kind of fun too
[20:50] <valorie> who in the chan is a Canonical employee?
[20:51] <valorie> except the bot......


[00:45]  * genii sips
[02:09] <genii> Weird. Some guy apparently getting upset at someone thanking the bot
[02:11] <Flannel> That is odd.
[02:11] <nalioth> anyone know anything about aliases and scripting for irssi?
[02:12] <genii> Flannel: Maybe te bot gets thanked more than he does
[02:12] <nalioth> how to put a random interval into an alias?
[02:12] <Flannel> What sort of alias?
[02:13] <nalioth> a timed action
[02:14] <Flannel> Erm... ok, Alias in what?
[02:15] <nalioth><PHONE_NUMBER> 20:11 <+nalioth> anyone know anything about aliases and scripting for irssi?
[02:15] <Flannel> Ah yes.
[02:16] <Flannel> Well...
[02:16] <Flannel> !enter
[02:16] <Flannel> ;)
[02:17] <Flannel> nalioth: /wait X
[02:17] <Flannel> so, foo;/wait X;bar;
[02:18] <nalioth> Flannel: how do you get X to be [random inteval here]
[02:20] <Flannel> nalioth: Store [next random interval] in a variable, and then update the variable after you use it?
[02:21] <nalioth> Flannel: how do you store a random number?
[02:23] <tsimpson> maybe you could create a script "#!/bin/bash \n echo $RANDOM" and call that from an alias
[02:35] <nalioth> tsimpson: how about if you want a random interval between 60 seconds and 900 seconds ?
[02:36] <tsimpson> nalioth: I guess with: RAND=$RANDOM; until [ $RAND -ge 60 -a $RAND -le 900 ]; do RAND=$RANDOM; done; echo $RAND
[02:37] <tsimpson> but it's not pretty
[02:37] <nalioth> i'll say.
[02:39] <tsimpson> or echo $(((RANDOM%590)+10))
[02:40] <nalioth> i'll file those snippets away
[02:40] <tsimpson> erm, 540)+10
[02:40] <tsimpson> erm, 60
[02:40] <tsimpson> 2:40am == bad math time
[02:41] <nalioth> for when i figure out where to stick 'em :p
[02:43] <tsimpson> /exec -o echo 'echo $(((RANDOM%540)+60))'|bash
[02:43] <tsimpson> now that's ugly :)
[02:44] <tsimpson> but works
[02:44] <nalioth> so ugly, i have no idea how it would work
[03:41]  * genii sips
[03:41]  * Flannel mips
[03:43]  * elky flips
[03:51]  * nalioth zips
[04:52] <genii> Hm
[04:52] <bazhang> hmm
[04:52] <genii> bazhang: I just checked in and saw all the mipping,flipping,zipping, etc
[04:52] <Flannel> Hmmm
[04:53] <bazhang> genii, hehe
[04:53] <genii> Must be a slow night ;)
[04:53] <bazhang> network hubs?
[04:54] <genii> ?
[04:54] <bazhang> zaccour in #u
[04:55] <genii> Ah
[05:06] <elky> genii, are you trying to jinx us?
[05:07] <genii> elky: Well, some excitement wouldn't hurt ;)
[05:08] <elky> yes it would, i'm supposed to be cleaning my flat for inspection on thursday
[05:10]  * genii performs an anti-jinx coffee ritual
[05:10] <Flannel> genii: which one's that?
[05:10] <genii> Flannel: One I just made up to comfort the superstitious
[05:11] <elky> murphy's law is not superstition
[05:11] <genii> Ah, I do agree with Murphy, yes
[05:12] <genii> elky: If you lived in my neighbourhood I'd offer to vacuum your flat or so
[05:13] <elky> the vacuuming is the easy part
[05:13] <elky> picking up all the crap i have lying around on the other hand...
[05:14] <genii> I have usually the same problem
 I am going to be travling for a while.. what command line parameters do i use with wget to download the internet?
[06:10] <bazhang> the whole thing ??
[06:10] <Flannel> bazhang: Sure.
[06:11] <elky> bazhang, tell him he has not the time. google started in 1998 and still does not have everything
[06:11] <bazhang> point it at the wayback machine to start :)
[07:05]  * genii sneaks a coffee
[08:29] <genii> Someone might need to keep an eye on chengcheng in #u
[08:30] <genii> Sorry, -offtopic
[08:45] <bazhang> @bansearch dingding
[08:47] <bazhang> thought dingding was banned in #kubuntu as well
[08:49] <elky> chengcheng = dingding?
[08:51] <bazhang> no; turns out dingding is ban-evading in #kubuntu as well, just that the ban set there is easier to get around
[08:51] <bazhang> dingding is cristi, cristi_, crismusg, and several others
[09:22] <ikonia> ahh dingding back again for more
[09:22]  * jussi01 waves to ikonia
[09:22] <ikonia> looks like he meant it when he said he'd learnt his lesson, and it was wrong to ban him......he's still ban dodging
[09:22] <ikonia> utter tosh
[09:23] <ikonia> hey
[09:23] <tsimpson> ikonia: I've strengthened the ban in #k
[09:24] <ikonia> jussi01: didn't see youthere
[09:24] <ikonia> tsimpson: so I saw, thank you
[10:04] <Myrtti> good morning
[10:05] <ikonia> hello uk'er
[10:06] <Myrtti> >____< http://www.last.fm/user/myrtti/shoutbox
[10:08]  * jussi01 sighs at the backlog in -women... :/
[10:14] <Myrtti> bah, should get up and cracking. Need to buy varnish, sandpaper, splenda, light bulbs, brushes, brushcleaner, stapler gun...
[10:15] <Myrtti> I get to paint \o/
[10:15] <Gary> oh no
[10:15] <Gary> don't forget to take a pic of you covered in paint
[10:15] <Gary> what colour btw?
[10:16] <Myrtti> clear varnish probably. and I wont be covered in it, I'm far too trained
[10:16] <Gary> aww, can you come decorate my place please?  I always end up the colour of the walls
[10:16] <Myrtti> my mum is an interiour painter and I've been putting wallpapers and painting walls and ceilings and stuff far too long
[10:17] <Myrtti> starting at age seven or so
[10:17] <Gary> last time I was a nice magnolia colour, some of the paint was stuck in awkward places!
[10:17] <Gary> O_O  I meant ears and stuff!
[10:18] <jussi01> Gary: rofl
[10:18] <ikonia> Myrtti: what are you painting ?
[10:18] <Myrtti> ikonia: kitchen dining table and four chairs
[10:19] <Myrtti> I was surprised that the chairs and tables I thought were the best looking were the cheapest and being unfinished allow me to do finish them myself to any colour I want
[10:19] <Myrtti> solid pine ♥
[10:20] <popey> pink?
[10:20] <Gary> paint em PINK!
[10:20] <popey> :)
[10:20] <Gary> haha, popey you is so gay
[10:20] <popey> hello sailor
[10:20] <Myrtti> "NO"
[10:20] <Myrtti> came a voice from the bathroom
[10:20] <Gary> eye eye sailor
[10:21] <Myrtti> you guys crack me up
[10:21] <Gary> Myrtti: how about pastel colours with bunnies and flowers?
[10:21] <Myrtti> "NO"
[10:21] <Gary> like that terrible wallpaper you linked me to a while ago
[10:22] <ikonia> Myrtti: have you actually moved over here ?
[10:22] <ikonia> Myrtti: I thought you where only over for a month or so
[10:22] <Myrtti> um... no
[10:22] <Myrtti> haven't moved
[10:22] <ikonia> ooh, ok
[10:22] <Myrtti> it's not my decision to make ;-)
[10:22] <ikonia> ok
[10:22] <Myrtti> if I'm invited, I'll consider
[10:22] <Gary> lies, if you agrue enough, you will win
[10:23] <Myrtti> Gary: I'm not coming with my bags and stuff and just say "I'm moving in"
[10:23] <jussi01> Gary: LIES - you argue enough you get punched in the face...
[10:23] <popey> not the face! not the face!
[10:23] <Gary> jussi01: well thats how it works for me yeah
[10:23] <Myrtti> it's not my house and I'm not paying the mortgage
[10:23] <Myrtti> not to gumdrop buttons!
[10:23] <Myrtti> s/to/the/
[10:24] <Gary> Myrtti: if you decorate, move in here, keep tomothy company during the week
[10:24] <Gary> if you can scare him enough so he gets a job, i'll be really thankful
[10:25] <jussi01> Gary: just tell him youll send him to visit me if he doesnt get a job... :P
[10:26] <Myrtti> "boo"
[10:44] <Gary> who killed the topic in -offtopic :p
[10:45] <jussi01> Gary: I blame you...
[10:51] <ikonia> @bansearch Psuedo
[10:57] <elky> i dont recall saying that -ot could start idiot season...
[11:20] <Daviey> Gary: i'll move in with Gary, as a favour
[11:20] <Daviey> err Tomothy
[11:37] <ikonia> I think the user Psuedo is Panarchy
[11:37] <ikonia> now I'm certain
[11:37] <ikonia> I mentioned the name "panarchy" in ##linux and Psuedo joined #freenode to see if I was mentioning it in there
[11:39] <ikonia> how he's asking if people can see through cloakes - it's panarchy and he's panicing
[11:39] <ikonia> 11:35 < Psuedo> better to have multiple layers of redundancy
[11:39] <ikonia> 11:35 < ikonia> your panarchy
[11:40] <ikonia> 11:36 -!- Psuedo [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/psuedo] has joined #freenode
[11:42] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu Psuedo looks like panarchy
[11:43] <elky> heh
[11:44] <ikonia> I'm %80 certain
[11:44] <ikonia> same attitude/same questions/same inability to understand a response/installing 5'os on one box/couldn't work grub and then panic'd when I metioned the name panarchy
[11:51] <elky> i think christel is the one who dealt with panarchy. other staff may not know the relevence
[11:51] <ikonia> elky: yeah, just want them to confirm if it's the same ISP / Range / Country
[11:51] <ikonia> elky: the nick was only just registered too a few days ago - after he was banned again from otfw
[11:52] <ikonia> christel: ping
[11:54] <Mez> and now this is where my logs start confusing me
[11:54] <ikonia> ?
[11:54] <Mez> DST :D
[11:58] <christel> hoppla!
[11:59] <ikonia> hello
[11:59] <ikonia> christel: could you do me a favour and see if the user Psuedo who just quit has anything in common with the now famous user Panarchy
[11:59] <ikonia> christel: I've got a pretty good reason to suspect it's the same guy and that he's kline/ban dodging
[12:00] <christel> he coonnected from *.mstarmetro.net
[12:00] <ikonia> doesn't seem the same guy then
[12:00] <christel> which doesnt match panarchy
[12:00] <ikonia> everything else matched almost perfectly
[12:00] <christel> having said that, it could be panarchy if he's discovered proxies
[12:00] <elky> ikonia, idiots are rarely unique ;)
[12:01] <ikonia> elky: this was almost word for word
[12:01] <ikonia> and he panic'd when I said the name panarchy
[12:01] <ikonia> joined freenode and started asking if people could see through cloaks
[12:01] <ikonia> his questions where identical to panarchys, he was doing exactly the same thing, having exactly the same problems etc etc
[12:01] <christel> completely ignore me
[12:02] <ikonia> christel: ?
[12:02] <christel> the host was that of the person who owns the nic
[12:02] <christel> but the user earlier didnt identify
[12:02] <christel> oh they did, i just cant misspell psuedo !
[12:02] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[12:02] <christel> give me 2ticks
[12:02] <ikonia> I was just about to say it did
[12:03] <ikonia> a new nick too registered 1 day after panarchy was again banned from otfw
[12:03] <elky> otfw?
[12:03] <ikonia> otfc
[12:04] <elky> ah
[12:04] <christel> ok that looks more like panarchy
[12:04] <ikonia> christel: thought so
[12:04] <christel> new south wales bigpond.au ip
[12:04] <ikonia> christel: do I get a badge ?
[12:04] <elky> that's panarchy alright
[12:05] <christel> you do! you get a badge and he gets a new kline!
[12:05] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[12:06] <elky> now if only we could get rid of umakant and the fruity one so easy
[12:06] <ikonia> elky: he's klined :)
[12:06] <christel> heehe what are they up to
[12:06] <ikonia> elky: yesteday
[12:06] <elky> ikonia, umakant is klined?
[12:06] <christel> i dont get panarchy, for a troll he's bloody weird, but he's definitely not not-a-troll
[12:06] <ikonia> elky: as in icebuntu
[12:06] <ikonia> christel: he's a moron
[12:06] <ikonia> christel: it's that simple
[12:07] <christel> hehe
[12:07] <ikonia> christel: trying to be a "hacker"
[12:07] <ikonia> claims he's a paid black hat hacker, yet can't boot an OS
[12:07] <christel> hahaha
[12:07] <elky> ikonia, nice. now, fruit salad's turn
[12:07] <ikonia> http://alesi.projecthugo.co.uk/kline_truck.jpg
[12:07] <ikonia> jump in !
[12:07] <ikonia> (sorry - it's a new thing for me in the UK, still laughing about it)
[12:09] <elky> ikonia, any sign of the fruity one today?
[12:10] <christel> hehe
[12:10] <ikonia> elky: one at a time please
[12:12] <elky> negative for apple, negative for orange, negative for lemon
[12:12] <ikonia> he'll run out of fruit soon and move to vege's
 hi friends
[13:32] <elky> yes, i know
[13:32] <elky> he's also in ##australia and various kde chans
[13:42] <elky> he got his free k-ticket
[13:57] <elky> ikonia, still around?
[13:58] <ikonia> yes
[13:58] <ikonia> just come back funny enough
[13:59] <elky> ikonia, you have contacts on #oftc, yes? fujisan has creepied his way over to there and is now haunting hobbsee and i
[13:59] <ikonia> I have no contacts at all on there
[13:59] <ikonia> I'm just a pleb user
[13:59] <elky> he noticed when i joined #oftc and suddenly joined it and proclaimed it his new freenode
[14:00] <ikonia> elky what's he logged in as ?
[14:00] <elky> fujiosan
[14:00] <ikonia> I see him
[14:01] <elky> i mean, i'm one of 4 people in #debian-au there, and suddenly he joins. creepy as
[14:01] <ikonia> just stupid
[14:01] <Myrtti> nobody in camlug is intrested about a sunday meetup :-(
[14:01] <ikonia> I suppose talking to one of the ops is pointless ?
[14:01] <Myrtti> sitting at cb2 with mah n800, tumbleweed n crickets
[14:01] <ikonia> oh dear
[14:01] <Myrtti> horrring
[14:01] <ikonia> Myrtti: you're welcome to the BBLUG next weekend
[14:02] <elky> ikonia, i asked in #oftc for stalker protections, but the on-duty are useless
[14:02] <ikonia> ughh
[14:02] <bazhang> is that channel on freenode? #oftc
[14:02] <ikonia> nah
[14:02] <ikonia> it's on oftc
[14:02] <bazhang> aha
[14:02] <bazhang> I just joined an empty channel :)
[14:03] <Myrtti> ikonia: planning to take a day off for london release party ;-)
[14:03] <ikonia> ah well
[14:13] <christel> partypartyparty!
[14:14] <ikonia> ughhh I've just had to fire my wordpress developer
[14:15] <ikonia> the guy is 3 months late and still not getting anywhere - gutted
[14:19] <elky> developing what?
[14:20] <ikonia> wordpress theme
[14:20] <ikonia> nothing more
[14:20] <ikonia> just hunting for a new guy now
[14:21] <elky> wordpress themes are stupid simple
[14:21] <ikonia> you need a design first
[14:21] <elky> that is true
[14:22] <ikonia> the guy did an good mockup, then struggled to make that mockup a functioning design, made some compromises then struggled to make it work as a theme
[14:22] <ikonia> had to knock it on the head and I'll have to find someone new,
[14:23] <bazhang> for a blog?
[14:23] <ikonia> bit more than a blog, but yeah
[14:23] <bazhang> wow you must be uber-rich :)
[14:24] <ikonia> ???????
[14:25] <ikonia> hiring someone to do a proffesional design for a project?
[14:25] <bazhang> I get all my wordpress themes from wordpress.com stock :(
[14:25] <ikonia> yeah, this needs to be a new unique one
[14:25] <bazhang> aha
[14:25] <ikonia> I get all mine from there too
[15:43] <jussi01> ikonia: the oxygen designer is looking for work... perhaps he could do something for you? (has artistic ability, not sure about wordpress stuff...)
[15:51] <jussi01> !forget nvidia-beta
[16:13] <LjL> client incoming
[16:13] <shadeslayer> hi
[16:13] <LjL> shadeslayer: nothing against me pasting our query for the others here to catch up?
[16:13] <shadeslayer> no problem
[16:14] <LjL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/140155/
[16:14] <LjL> please check this if you know a bit about the history here
[16:14] <LjL> and/or if you're in the mood to match hostmasks
[16:15] <shadeslayer> LjL: im sorry,what do you mean
[16:16] <ikonia> allow me to interject
[16:16] <ikonia> shadeslayer: your telling lies
[16:16] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:17] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you admited to me you where rohan and you where sorry for telling lies about being him
[16:17] <ikonia> you did it beacause you where curious
[16:17] <ikonia> do you remember that conversation
[16:17] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no,i told you and LjL that i was rohan for the first 15 days of jan
[16:17] <LjL> shadeslayer: i was talking to the other ops
[16:17] <ikonia> no - you where before that
[16:17] <ikonia> LjL: ahh sorry
[16:17] <LjL> ikonia: ?
[16:18] <ikonia> and maddy also you where maddy
[16:18] <LjL> ikonia: i was responding to the "what do you mean"
[16:18] <ikonia> LjL: oh
[16:18] <ikonia> thought I was treading on your toes
[16:19] <LjL> hi Nuken
[16:19] <shadeslayer> ok so the basic thing is im shadeslayer from 15 jan,thats it
[16:19] <ikonia> no
[16:19] <ikonia> thats not the basic
[16:19] <Nuken> hi LjL
[16:19] <ikonia> you have been rhoan from before that - and admited it, you have been ugreat and admited it, you have been maddy and admited it
[16:19] <shadeslayer> and i was rohan till 15th jan
[16:19] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i did admit
[16:19] <ikonia> ok - so you're keeping up with that lie, I won't discuss it futher
[16:19] <shadeslayer> but not for rohan
[16:20] <LjL> shadeslayer...
[16:20] <LjL> you had the ident "rohan"
[16:20] <shadeslayer> ikonia: what lie,i accept all the facts, i was urgreat,imgreat and maddy
[16:20] <LjL> as the "other" rohan
[16:20] <LjL> you were from the *same subnet*
[16:20] <LjL> how can we seriously believe you?
[16:20] <shadeslayer> LjL: subnet??
[16:20] <LjL> shadeslayer: same pool of addresses.
[16:21] <shadeslayer> LjL: well i told you that i and he live in the same country and same region
[16:21] <LjL> right
[16:21] <LjL> but what are the chances
[16:21] <shadeslayer> i dont knoe
[16:21] <ikonia> none after he admited it was him to me
[16:21] <LjL> that two people with the same first name, from the same subnet, join the same channels on the same irc network?
[16:21] <shadeslayer> *know
[16:22] <LjL> a lake MAY freeze in the summer
[16:22] <shadeslayer> LjL: u can as in #freenode who rohan is registered to
[16:22] <LjL> but if we based what we do on that possibility, we'd never do anything
[16:22] <LjL> shadeslayer: freenode staff will not tell me what a cloak's IP address is
[16:22] <shadeslayer> LjL: in all totality,i was not rohan from 15th jan
[16:23] <ikonia> you admited to being rhoan before that to me
[16:23] <ikonia> when I caught you being maddy
[16:23] <ikonia> and you explained you wanted to test what happened if you ban dodged
[16:23] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i was admitting to bein rohan *before* 15th jan
[16:23] <LjL> shadeslayer: do you want me to ask freenode staff to confirm or deny the possibility that you two are the same?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> yes you can ask
[16:23] <ikonia> shadeslayer: I caught you changing nicks from rohan to maddy
[16:24] <ikonia> after Jan
[16:24] <shadeslayer> may i join freenode to check too
[16:24] <LjL> !staff | please, can you check for shadeslayer (on his request) whether the "rohan" account and the "shadeslayer" account may correspond to the same user?
[16:24] <ikonia> I verfied this with your client ID to - when I versioned you
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ikonia: rohan was registered,so i had to change nicks
[16:24] <ikonia> ok - I'm out of this conversation as you are now telling lies
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i had just reinstalled quassel,the default nick was rohan
[16:25] <ikonia> the default nick is not rohan
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no im not telling lies
[16:25] <LjL> let's wait a moment for a response from staff, shall we?
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:25] <ikonia> yes lets
[16:25] <christel> doesnt appear to be registered to the same person (different ips, different email)
[16:25] <shadeslayer> see
[16:25] <LjL> thank you christel
[16:25] <nalioth> er, okay
[16:26] <LjL> be right back, phone
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ikonia: will that satisfy you?
[16:26] <ikonia> no
[16:26] <ikonia> I didn't say you where registerd as rhoan
[16:26] <ikonia> I said you where using the nick
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ikonia: please tell me,what will
[16:26] <ikonia> which you admited to me
[16:26] <ikonia> I caught you chaging nick from shadeslayer to maddy, and rhoan to maddy123
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ikonia: as i said the nick was registered,had to change nicks
[16:26] <ikonia> that was after Jan
[16:27] <LjL> uhm, i need to leave home for a minute
[16:27] <ikonia> as you can see you can use a nick that is not registered
[16:27] <ikonia> that is registered sorry
[16:27] <rohan> hi - I'm using a registered nick
[16:28] <shadeslayer> ikonia: let me tell you,i changed from shadeslayer to rohan(registred),Nickserv tells me to identify,i cant,so i change nicks to maddy
[16:28] <shadeslayer> ikonia: did nickserv tell you to identify??
[16:29] <rohan> I am using a registered nick
[16:29] <shadeslayer> yes,did nickserv say anything
[16:29] <maddy123> I have changed nicks
[16:29] <maddy123> exactly the same as you did
[16:29] <ikonia> yes, nickserv warned me it was registered, but I ignored it, same way you did
[16:30] <shadeslayer> no,i changed nicks,i always do
[16:30] <ikonia> "ok"
[16:30] <shadeslayer> i thought that it had a 30 sec limit
[16:31] <christel> it does, but only if the account owner has set enforce on :)
[16:31] <ikonia> this is a pointless conversation as I caught you doing it and spoke to you about it - and you admited it
[16:31] <shadeslayer> i didnt know that,i thought it had a 30 sec limit,i changed nicks in what 10 sec
[16:31] <ikonia> and that was after jan
[16:32] <shadeslayer> ikonia: yes,i know,you caught me,i was changing nicks as nickserv told me
[16:32] <ikonia> from rohan to maddy
[16:32] <ikonia> and that was after january
[16:32] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately you came at the precise moment when i was changing nicks
[16:33] <ikonia> well, enough of this
[16:33] <shadeslayer> yes,because Chanserv told me
[16:33] <ikonia> when you are prepared to tell the truth
[16:33] <ikonia> I'll chat more about it
[16:33] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i am telling it
[16:34] <shadeslayer> when i say lies you say i lie,when i say the truth you rebuke me for lying again
[16:34] <ikonia> that is the price of being a known liar
[16:34] <ikonia> and as I said I CAUGHT you changing nicks from rohan AFTER january so I know your telling me lies
[16:35] <shadeslayer> i am admitting that i changed nicks,*but* just because chanserv told me
[16:35] <shadeslayer> *nickserv
[16:35] <ikonia> but you said you didn't use rohan after January - so explain that?
[16:36] <shadeslayer> so when did i actually *use* rohan??
[16:36] <ikonia> you've used it many times
[16:36] <shadeslayer> i was changing nicks thats all
[16:36] <shadeslayer> no
[16:36] <ikonia> ahh this is going no-where
[16:36] <ikonia> this is the price of being a known and admited lair
[16:36] <ikonia> it's impossible to believe anything you say without proof
[16:37] <ikonia> liar
[16:37] <shadeslayer> havent i repaid it yet??
[16:37] <shadeslayer> ive been out of here for the past 2 weeks
[16:37] <shadeslayer> *1
[16:37] <ikonia> you where a pain for months
[16:38] <ikonia> and you've only been out BECAUSE you where banned
[16:38] <ikonia> after months of ban dodging
[16:38] <shadeslayer> not from #kubuntu
[16:38] <ikonia> no, you're in there because you're not banned ?
[16:38] <shadeslayer> months??? shouldnt that be days??
[16:38] <shadeslayer> ikonia: was not there for a whole week
[16:38] <ikonia> because you where banned
[16:39] <shadeslayer> no,i wasnt banned from kubuntu
[16:39] <ikonia> oh you mean you've not been in #kubuntu fora week ?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> no
[16:39] <ikonia> what do you mean then ?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> yes,i mean ive not been in #kubuntu for a week
[16:39] <ikonia> yes you have
[16:40] <ikonia> you've been in on a regular basis since being banned
[16:40] <shadeslayer> i was told to " keep out " from any *buntu channel
[16:40] <ikonia> yet you've been in on a regular basis
[16:40] <shadeslayer> no
[16:40] <ikonia> you're in there now !
[16:40] <shadeslayer> not for the past week
[16:41] <shadeslayer> yes,after i got a snag
[16:41] <ikonia> look this is going nowhere I won't be lifting my bans because you are a proven liar and you have done nothing to prove otherwise to me
[16:41] <shadeslayer> ikonia: im talking about the past week
[16:41] <shadeslayer> ikonia: im not asking to lift the ban
[16:41] <ikonia> oh, ok - then what do you want
[16:41] <shadeslayer> ikonia: im here to talk about how much more time ill have to stay out
[16:42] <shadeslayer> and about my behaiour
[16:42] <ikonia> until people have confidence that you're not an issue or a liar any more
[16:42] <shadeslayer> when will that be?
[16:42] <ikonia> when you can prove to people you're not telling lies and you're not an issue in the channel
[16:43] <shadeslayer> how do i do that.without being let in
[16:43] <ikonia> the way you act when you talk to us in here
[16:43] <shadeslayer> how do i act then
[16:44] <shadeslayer> i say the truth,you brand me a liar
[16:44] <ikonia> however you want, I have no confidence you're telling the truth based on what I've seen
[16:44] <ikonia> if others beleive you then they maybe more willing to listen to you
[16:45] <shadeslayer> ok,ill wait for LjL
[16:45] <ikonia> shadeslayer: come back later then and speak to LJL see if he feels differently
[16:46] <shadeslayer> ikonia: are you sure you wont influence him behind my back??
[16:46] <ikonia> he is strong enough to make up his own mind
[16:46] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:46] <ikonia> oh and for the record do you also admit to being sh4d3sl4y3r!
[16:46] <shadeslayer> bye them
[16:46] <shadeslayer> *then
[16:46] <shadeslayer> ikonia: absolutely not
[16:47] <ikonia> ok
[16:48] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops shadeslayer request to be unbanned
[16:55] <LjL> ok for the record, the ban might even be removed for all that i'm concerned
[16:55] <LjL> if he just behaves in the future, then meh
[16:56] <ikonia> your call
[16:56] <ikonia> I'm not lifting mine without a good reason, more so as he's just lied in here
[16:58] <LjL> (i've been called down by a friend who went to a fair and gave me as a present... a deck of "binary cards" :o)
[16:58] <ikonia> ughhh
[16:58] <ikonia> geek gift
[16:59] <LjL> well, he's not a nerd, but he is convinced i am one...
[16:59] <LjL> ... for some reason ...
[16:59] <LjL> ... the reason possibly being that i am ...
[16:59] <ikonia> busted
[17:01] <LjL> ikonia: i did tell him the whole story about the Grundy function and nim-sum in games theory as a punishment
[17:01] <ikonia> so a good reason to think you are a nerd
[17:02] <LjL> Nuken: did you want to ask us anything?
[17:02] <ikonia> @bansearch Guest_509
[17:05] <LjL> ikonia: he joined -read-topic, but his current nick isn't an exploit victim's
[17:05] <ikonia> odd
[17:06] <LjL> ikonia: i'm asking him about it. freenode servers lately have had bad desync
[17:06] <LjL> i might just not be seeing the ban from my server
[17:07] <shadeslayer_> LjL, you there??
[17:07] <LjL> shadeslayer_, yes
[17:07] <shadeslayer> LjL, do you trust me?
[17:08] <shadeslayer> that i speak the truth,and not lie ?
[17:08] <LjL> shadeslayer: it's hard to say. as i said all evidence points to you being rohan
[17:08] <LjL> shadeslayer: besides, even if you are not, you've been banned several times as shadeslayer
[17:09] <shadeslayer> LjL, i am rohan,i real life,the nick rohan belongs to someone else as freenode pointed out
[17:09] <shadeslayer> LjL, i promise to behave
[17:09] <LjL> shadeslayer: yes, i meant to say there's evidence you are the "other" rohan
[17:09] <shadeslayer> oh....ok
[17:10] <shadeslayer> LjL, so now,i ask,will you unban me?
[17:10] <Nuken> somebody here use XenServer?
[17:11] <shadeslayer> i promised that i wont join any *buntu channel for a week,i kept my promise
[17:11] <Flannel> Nuken: This isn't a support channel, you should try #ubuntu
[17:11] <Nuken> oh sorry
[17:11] <Nuken> i use slackware
[17:12] <Nuken> thanks
[17:12] <LjL> shadeslayer: i'll remove the ban that was set by me - if you have any other bans, i won't remove those
[17:12] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:12] <LjL> shadeslayer: please consider this temporary, though
[17:12] <shadeslayer> LjL, sure
[17:12] <shadeslayer> LjL, i know the ops will always be watching
[17:12] <LjL> shadeslayer: i reserve to investigate some more to look for other evidence on whether you are or are not the "other" rohan
[17:13] <LjL> shadeslayer: yes, that, but also the fact i want to check better
[17:13] <LjL> shadeslayer: but on that topic too, i'm sure you realize we'll be watching you very attentively, so one more instance of misbehavior, and you're gone
[17:13] <shadeslayer> LjL, i will keep that in mind
[17:13] <shadeslayer> LjL, can you tell me if i have other bans as well?
[17:14] <LjL> shadeslayer: i guess the easiest way is to try joining
[17:14] <shadeslayer> LjL, so ban removed?
[17:14] <LjL> yes
[17:14] <shadeslayer> thanks,i can join
[17:15] <shadeslayer> thanks to all the ops for believing in me
[17:17] <LjL> Guest_509 is getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:17] <LjL> he's connected to Verne
[17:17] <LjL> i can't see a ban on him, either from my server or Verne
[17:17] <LjL> anyone has better eyes than me?
[17:18] <Guest_509> worked now..
[17:18] <LjL> wait, you are in #ubuntu now
[17:18] <ikonia> I couldn't see anything earlier
[17:18] <ikonia> he was in #ubuntu before though as guest and xnxnxn or something similar
[17:18] <ikonia> he wasn't banned he kept leaving on his own
[17:18] <LjL> Guest_509: what were you typing to join?
[17:18] <Guest_509> /join #ubuntu
[17:19] <Guest_509> but 2nd time i join it make me in #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:19]  * LjL scratches his head
[17:20] <LjL> ikonia: the other nicks he had don't look banned, either
[17:21] <LjL> Guest_509: ok look, if this happens again, please join here and ask us about it
[17:21] <Guest_509> ok, thk you
[17:22] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops Guest_509 Apparently getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic without a ban in place that I could find, told him to come back if the problem happens again
[17:23] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops shadeslayer Unbanned with (strong) reserve, see also http://paste.ubuntu.com/140155/ - Please ban again on any instance of even slight bad behavior
[17:25] <jussi01> ok, this is curious. I wonder if its my client or something else, but I keep getting PMs from people in #ubuntu-read-topic with the message of simply: #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:25] <LjL> jussi01: people like who?
[17:26] <jussi01> LjL: I just had "linux"
[17:26] <jussi01> and
[17:26] <jussi01> [00:35:13] <yggdrasil> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:26] <jussi01> [00:35:24] <yggdrasil> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:26] <jussi01> [00:00:00]  [Day changed to Sunday March 29 2009]
[17:26] <LjL> uhm
[17:26] <jussi01> that was yesterday
[17:26] <jussi01> I seem to get a fair few...
[17:26] <LjL> yggdrasil i think is an "old" exploit victim
[17:26] <LjL> (i.e. always get exploited)
[17:27] <Flannel> jussi01: You're being haunted by past exploit victims!
[17:27] <LjL> "linux" might not even be an actual exploit victim, probably a common nickname
[17:27] <Flannel> WooooOOOooooOOOoooooooo
[17:27] <jussi01> [21:21:30] <Spike1506> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:27] <jussi01> [00:00:00]  [Day changed to Saturday March 21 2009]
[17:27] <jussi01> [00:03:39] <Spike1506> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:27] <jussi01> [00:00:00]  [Day changed to Sunday March 22 2009]
[17:27] <jussi01> and there are many more Ive deleted...
[17:27] <LjL> i don't think it's happened to me
[17:27] <Flannel> No, that's really strange.
[17:28] <jussi01> I asked the lead dev of quassel about it and he said he hasnt a clue, wondered about it also.
[17:29] <LjL> jussi01: if you want to find out, you should put a sniffer in between (or an irc proxy)
[17:29] <LjL> and look at the actual raw traffic
[17:30] <jussi01> hrm
[17:30] <jussi01> I wonder if the info is hidden in the core somewhere...
[17:31] <LjL> jussi01: i actually don't have anything about yggdrasil for a time of 00:35
[17:32] <LjL> nor Spike for 21:21 or 0:03
[17:32] <LjL> although it might just be my logs being patchy
[17:34] <jussi01> LjL: remember they are finnish times... (is italy same?)
[17:35] <LjL> jussi01: no, italy is CET, you are EET
[17:35] <LjL> jussi01: but anyway i took that into account
[17:35] <jussi01> LjL: I just got linux again
[17:35] <jussi01> [19:31:22] <linux> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:35] <jussi01> [19:31:45] <linux> #ubuntu-read-topic
[17:36] <LjL> jussi01: ok, excuse my ctcps
[17:36] <LjL> (which you don't reply to)
[17:36] <jussi01> heh
[17:37] <jussi01> quassel still needs some work there likely.
[17:37] <LjL> jussi01: paste your time please, try to make it accurate (dunno if something like /exec -o date works in quassel)
[17:39] <jussi01> LjL: Sun Mar 29 19:34:42 EEST 2009
[17:39] <jussi01> thats probably 5 seconds off (time to copy/paste from konsole)
[17:39] <LjL> jussi01: your time is quite wrong then - or mine is
[17:39] <jussi01> and thats the time on the server where the core it
[17:40] <LjL> mine should be right
[17:40] <jussi01> LjL: mine likely
[17:40] <LjL> so, you're off by about 4 minutes, hm
[17:40] <jussi01> ok then
[17:42] <LjL> jussi01: it seems to be about when he quit - at least the second one
[17:42] <LjL> jussi01: tell me if you get anything from me
[17:43] <LjL> jussi01: nothing?
[17:43] <jussi01> LjL: doesnt look like it currently :/
[17:44] <jussi01> LjL: try 1 more time
[17:45] <jussi01> LjL: err, without ops?
[17:45] <LjL> jussi01: let me do it from telnet
[17:45] <jussi01> kk
[17:47] <jussi01> LjL: want to see if an op saying something triggers it...
[17:47] <LjL> jussi01: i'll have the bots mark me as a victim
[17:48] <jussi01> ahh, yeah, thatll help
[17:48] <jussi01> LjL: I got both ljl1 and ljl2
[17:48] <jussi01> so it seems its when an op says something
[17:48] <jussi01> hrm
[17:49] <LjL> jussi01: did it do it now?
[17:49] <jussi01> no.
[17:49] <LjL> jussi01: now?
[17:49] <jussi01> no
[17:50] <jussi01> curious...
[17:50] <jussi01> what about if you part/quit?
[17:50] <jussi01> ok, its random as...
[17:50] <jussi01> nothing
[17:51] <LjL> jussi01: now?
[17:52] <jussi01> nope
[17:52] <ikonia> @bansearch chronic
[17:52] <LjL> yes, he's got bans :)
[17:52] <jussi01> LjL: 1 sec, gonna try something
[17:52] <ikonia> just checking he hadn't been updated to
[17:52] <ikonia> to #ubuntu too
[17:52] <jussi01> LjL: part them now
[17:53] <LjL> jussi01: part or quit?
[17:53] <jussi01> do one of each
[17:54] <jussi01> well who knows... :/ NOTHING!
[17:58] <jussi01> LjL: could you try with a different nick perhaps?
[17:58] <jussi01> bingo, just happened
[17:59] <jussi01> LjL: ^
[17:59] <LjL> jussi01: but i still don't know why.
[17:59] <LjL> jussi01: i'll ask for a test from ljl2 in a moment, see
[17:59] <jussi01> LjL: ok
[17:59] <LjL> jussi01: did it. happened?
[18:00] <jussi01> [19:55:34] <ljl2> #ubuntu-READ-topic
[18:00] <LjL> jussi01: yes, i used weird case on purpose
[18:00] <jussi01> [19:55:52] <LjL> jussi01: did it. happened?
[18:00] <jussi01> (that last paste was to orientate you timewise)
[18:00] <LjL> jussi01: now i'll send a message first with the channel name in lowercase, then in uppercase
[18:01] <LjL> jussi01: tell me about each
[18:01] <jussi01> LjL: ok
[18:01] <LjL> jussi01: lowercase done
[18:01] <jussi01> [19:57:09] <ljl2> #ubuntu-read-topic
[18:02] <LjL> jussi01: can you tell whether that was when ljl2 sent the message, or when floodbot replied?
[18:02] <jussi01> LjL: well floodbots reply is 3 seconds after...
[18:03] <LjL> jussi01: yeah, but you have second timestamps
[18:03] <Negative> hi, LjL
[18:03] <LjL> hi negative
[18:03] <LjL> hold on a second while we're trying to figure out something please
[18:03] <Negative> sure.
[18:03] <LjL> jussi01: just paste what you got *within* #ubuntu-read-topic timestamps included
[18:04] <jussi01> [19:57:12] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).
[18:04] <LjL> jussi01: and you didn't get the "test me" message from ljl2 at all?
[18:04] <jussi01> nope
[18:04] <LjL> uh
[18:04] <LjL> jussi01: ok, one last time
[18:05] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-se sebsebseb in the channel (another one) after agreeing to keep out for a few days
[18:05] <ikonia> ughh
[18:05] <LjL> jussi01: anything this time?
[18:05] <jussi01> LjL: exactly same as last time
[18:05] <jussi01> [19:57:12] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).
[18:05] <jussi01> [20:01:03] <FloodBot1> ljl2: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how).
[18:06] <jussi01> [20:01:00] <ljl2> #ubuntu-read-topic
[18:06] <LjL> jussi01: ok, let me talk to Negative a minute then we'll try again
[18:06] <jussi01> LjL: ok
[18:06] <LjL> Negative: what do you want to know about the floodbots?
[18:07] <Negative> LjL: Is there any chance the source could become open?
[18:07] <Negative> LjL: Just interested in seeing it
[18:07] <LjL> Negative: there is a chance, yes, but i can't guarantee it will happen
[18:08] <Negative> LjL: Who wrote it?
[18:08] <LjL> Negative: currently we've agreed to keep the source private
[18:08] <LjL> Negative: i did
[18:08] <Negative> LjL: Which language, out of curiosity?
[18:08] <LjL> PHP
[18:09] <Negative> LjL: Ah.
[18:10] <jussi01> LjL: I think I know roughly what the issue may be.
[18:10] <LjL> jussi01: i was suspecting +mz
[18:10] <jussi01> LjL: me also
[18:11] <LjL> Negative: any other questions? if not, i think we have another user in the queue
[18:12] <Negative> LjL: Nothing else, though, let it be open source! :)
[18:13] <Negative> A lot of better things will become of it.
[18:13] <LjL> Negative: i personally wish that to happen
[18:13] <Negative> LjL: Where will it be, if it does become open source?
[18:13] <Negative> (so I can check!)
[18:14] <LjL> Negative: i don't know right now, probably launchpad, google for "launchpad ubuntu-bots"
[18:14] <LjL> Negative: you'll probably find a !floodbot factoid pointing to the source when and if it's released
[18:15] <jussi01> oh will someone give me access in +1... :/
[18:15] <LjL> jussi01: you need to ask yourself :)
[18:15] <jussi01> LjL: hehe
[18:15] <Negative> LjL: Thanks so much!
[18:15] <Negative> buh bye.
[18:15] <LjL> bye
[18:19] <LjL> sebsebseb: ok, so what's the issue
[18:21] <tsimpson> forward from +1 I think
[18:21] <sebsebseb> tsimpson: no
[18:22] <tsimpson> ok, then what can we do for you?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> LjL: I  already told you something in PM, but yeah you insisted to chat here
[18:23] <ikonia> sebsebseb: what's up ?
[18:24] <LjL> sebsebseb: yes, i pretty much would like issues to be brought forward in here, cross-PM'ing always only complicates matters
[18:25] <sebsebseb> ikonia: check the public  #ubuntu  IRC logs,  I have kept out like you wanted.   Just like I have all the other offical  English channels.
[18:25] <ikonia> sebsebseb: no
[18:26] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you tried to join +1 and I didn't see all english channels - I said all ubuntu channels as well you know, we even discussed loco channels specifically
[18:26] <sebsebseb> ikonia: I think it's a bit stupid to be here early, because  I  wanted a little bit of Swedish practice,  hence joining  those two.  and as I said there I can hardly even talk there anyway
[18:26] <sebsebseb> ikonia: +1 just now to  check if I was still banned or not
[18:27] <ikonia> sebsebseb: the point of following the REQUEST - was to prove you had self control
[18:27] <sebsebseb> ikonia: and only that
[18:27] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you knew you where banned
[18:27] <ikonia> and you tried to join +1 yesterday also
[18:27] <ikonia> and was forwarded here
[18:27] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you are free to go where you want to as I made clear the other day, so if there is anything else you want to discuss ?
[18:28] <sebsebseb> ikonia: same reason,  and  ok yeah that's stupid to try the channel that I am pretty sure I am banned from.
[18:28] <ikonia> yes it is stupid, and to do it multiple times is even more stupid, and to join #ubuntu based channels when you'd agreed not to for the weekend to show you had self control is also your decision, but in my view silly
[18:28] <ikonia> sebsebseb: so if there is nothing else you need please go about your day
[18:29] <sebsebseb> ikonia: well accept for +1 at the moment,  anyway  I did what you wanted pretty much, accept...  ,but that's only minor stuff
[18:29] <ikonia> no - you did nothing I requested
[18:29] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please go about your day
[18:29] <sebsebseb> ikonia: sure I did I haven't been in #ubuntu since  that day
[18:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please don't waste my time- we didn't agree #ubuntu - we agreed all #ubuntu based channels to wipe the slate clean
[18:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: don't play stupid with me, and don't treat me like I'm stupid changing it - if you want I'll try to pull up the logs
[18:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: I suggest you just go about your day
[18:30] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you've not done anything wrong - there is nothing to discuss
[18:31] <sebsebseb> ikonia: the logs would show I hadn't been in #ubuntu, but anyway.   one last thing
[18:31] <ikonia> I know you've not been in #ubuntu - no-one said you had
[18:31] <ikonia> I suggest you re-read what I have just said to you
[18:31] <sebsebseb> ikonia: altough the plan was to ask this tommorow not today.  if  I hadn't already been unbanned, but yeah when do I get access to +1?
[18:32] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you don't
[18:32] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you've proved you've got no self control - I made it quite clear and made a real effort to help you on Friday - and you've not been able to follow it, so I don't see a reason to remove the ban
[18:32] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok  I'll give you a reason, by being good in #ubuntu
[18:33] <sebsebseb> ikonia: plus I want to do that anyway
[18:33] <ikonia> sebsebseb: that wasn't what we disscussed
[18:33] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you're inability to read what I'm saying to you is part of the problem
[18:33] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you're not banned from #ubuntu you're free to be as good as you want in it
[18:34] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok
[18:34] <ikonia> sebsebseb: anything else you need ?
[18:35] <sebsebseb> ikonia: how did you know what channels I joined?
[18:35] <ikonia> that doesn't matter
[18:35] <sebsebseb> ok
[18:36] <sebsebseb> ikonia: I guess we are done
[18:36] <ikonia> yup
[18:36] <LjL> what's the GNOME charmap called?
[18:36] <LjL> (is there one?)
[18:37] <ikonia> thuinking
[18:37] <ikonia> thinking
[18:37] <sebsebseb> character map yeah
[18:37] <sebsebseb> there's something
[18:37] <ikonia> sebsebseb: if you don't need anything else please leave the channel
[18:37] <sebsebseb> built in
[18:37] <sebsebseb> ok bye
[18:37] <LjL> oh i found it
[18:37] <LjL> gucharmap
[18:37] <ikonia> not what I was thinking
[18:38] <Flannel> That's a bot!
[18:38] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops sebsebseb failing to comply with fresh start request
[18:40] <Flannel> Hmmm
[18:40] <LjL> Flannel: yes, it's also on other channels, i'd like to see if they spam there too
[18:40] <Flannel> He's got two other nicks conencted as well.
[18:40] <LjL> they haven't for now, not the ones i've seen anyway
[18:40] <ikonia> who ?
[18:40] <Flannel> txtest, and jpowermacg4
[18:40] <Flannel><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:41] <Flannel> LjL: s/b/d/
[18:41]  * jrib gives LjL a mirror
[18:41] <LjL> Flannel: eh, i don't see txtest?
[18:41] <Flannel> Right, he changed his nick... to AF2
[18:42] <LjL> Flannel: doesn't show in my /who...
[18:42] <Flannel> AF2 is the one I just removed
[18:42] <LjL> client incoming
[18:42] <Flannel> AirForceTwo
[18:43] <LjL> ah right
[18:43] <Flannel> And, he greets jpowermacg4 (the bot, that is)
[18:43] <Flannel> two hours and 13 minutes ago
[18:43] <LjL> i've seen it before
[18:43] <Flannel> Think we ought to forward jpower here, to talk it over with him?
[18:44] <Flannel> Yeah, that's not unusual.
[18:44] <LjL> Flannel: wait a moment before doing that
[18:45] <LjL> Flannel: right, i remembered right
[18:45] <LjL> Flannel: i told him i would allow his bot, he told us it would be completely silent
[18:45] <Flannel> What's his bot doing, anyway?
[18:46] <LjL> jpowermacg4: hi
[18:47] <LjL> jpowermacg4: please join this channel later when you're not idle, we need to talk to you - i'll kick you for now as you seem to be idle
[18:48] <LjL> Flannel: i don't know what it's doing, just some sort of statistics i guess, anyway i just thought as long as you're silent and don't publicly log, meh
[18:51] <LjL> Flannel: ah right. he had said it's basically an IRC client he's writing
[18:52] <LjL> i figured i wouldn't really want to be one to deny using a custom IRC client in #ubuntu
[18:52] <Flannel> Yes, but an IRC client vs a Bot are two separate things.
[18:52] <LjL> Flannel: well, a bot too, as long as it doesn't really do anything... what do i care
[18:52] <LjL> in this case, it definitely did something
[18:53] <LjL> i'm not sure it was intended though
[18:53] <LjL> Flannel: i'm sure you realize that we probably have a *number* of bots in #ubuntu which nobody ever bothered to inform us about :)
[18:54] <Flannel> Yeah.  But that doesn't mean I like them.
[18:54] <tsimpson> as long as they are quiet, I don't care much :)
[18:54] <Flannel> But, as long as they don't cause trouble, either in or out of the channel, I don't mind
[18:55] <LjL> Flannel: yeah indeed, i thought that the mere fact that he DID bother to inform us deserved a little prize, if you want to put it that way :)
[19:59] <LjL> mikem grrrrrrr
[20:49] <Flannel> How endearing....?
[20:50] <ikonia> why is there an obession to have a "personal" factoid
[20:50] <Flannel> Why is there an obsession for someone else to have a personal factoid?
[20:58] <NavadeHo> unban me from #ubuntu & #kubuntu now please, month is over
[20:59] <ikonia> one moement please
[20:59] <NavadeHo> k
[21:00] <ikonia> NavadeHo: why where you banned
[21:00] <NavadeHo> I CTCP'd a bot
[21:00] <ikonia> ahh yes
[21:00] <ikonia> a month is not up
[21:00] <ikonia> it's only been a week
[21:00] <NavadeHo> oh
[21:00] <NavadeHo> T_T
[21:00] <NavadeHo> it felt like a month :p
[21:00] <ikonia> nopre
[21:00] <ikonia> nope
[21:01] <ikonia> see you in 3 weeks
[21:01] <NavadeHo> k
[21:01] <ikonia> seems a strong ban LjL
[21:07] <Flannel> ikonia: Check the BT entry
[21:14] <ikonia> for NavadeHo ?
[21:14] <ikonia> I just saw the ctcp stuff
[21:19] <Flannel> ikonia: 150 some odd times, etc.
[21:20] <ikonia> oops
[21:20] <ikonia> 3 months it is then
[21:20] <Flannel> Anyone else just get CTCP versioned from sebsebseb?
[21:20] <ikonia> him again
[21:21] <Flannel> I really don't care that he did it, as long as he didn't do it to a good deal of people, etc
[21:21] <ikonia> he can't help him self
[21:45] <jussi01> HOME!!!! :D
[21:49] <Seeker`> hi
[21:52] <jussi01> heya Seeker` :)
[22:02] <Seeker`> how be?
[22:02] <jussi01> tired. going to bed soon.
[22:22] <Flannel> jrib: beat me to it!
[22:26] <UnderTaker> You Can Tell LJL to reinstate that ban on me Thanks Have a Nice Day.
[22:26] <Flannel> Interesting.
[22:36]  * jpds wonders what ms2134 was on about in #ubuntu.
[22:48] <LjL> eh?
[22:48] <LjL> i should reinstate the ban because?
[22:50] <LjL> gah
[23:04] <Flannel> LjL: Which ban what?
[23:04] <LjL> Flannel: undertaker, but nevermind, i've seen what he typed in #ubuntu
[23:04] <LjL> so that's a ban that's clearly never going to go away
[23:04] <LjL> (although he knows very well how to evade anyway)
[23:05] <Flannel> Oh
[23:06] <LjL> i had actually removed his ban only because it was clear to both of us he could evade if he wanted to in the first place
[23:30] <Myrtti> mmmmmmmm bed