[00:00] <jnk> I honestly don't know, I haven't seen any commands or attempts to upgrade provide any feedback to indicate it has actually done any upgrading
[00:01] <jnk> actually, you know what, I used wubi to install this today, it probably picked up the beta
[00:01] <flipstar> hm mplayer was updated today.. jnk run apt-cache policy mplayer
[00:01] <jnk> so all this is for not haha
[00:03] <jnk> the version returned from that matche that of the website
[00:03] <flipstar> info mplayer hardy | it should be this
[00:03] <flipstar> !info mplayer hardy | it should be this
[00:03] <ubotu> it should be this: mplayer (source: mplayer): The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu11 (hardy), package size 4244 kB, installed size 9892 kB
[00:04] <ere4si> time for a hard reset again....
[00:04] <jnk> well, mine's not installed, but the version returned is that
[00:04]  * cuznt 's integrated sound card makes horrid tin scraping noises when atemptin to record through the input
[00:06] <jnk> so, I'll conclude I already have the latest version and that I just wasted all of your all's time :)
[00:07] <jnk> but I do appreciate the assistance, I come from bsd so I'm just learning the linux methods of doing things
[00:08] <Daisuke_Ido> cuznt, that's actually the sound of the demons trapped in your computer that are forced to relay ones and zeroes between components
[00:09] <cuznt> i believe it
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> they live in the blue smoke, and may heaven have mercy on your soul if you let them out -_-
[00:12]  * flipstar just learned about sysreq keys :)
[00:20] <Apple_Cat_> Hi i think I'm having a problem with dns, though I don't know why, or how. If I try nslookup on myself it returns ** server can't find <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa: NXDOMAIN
[00:24] <flipstar> Apple_Cat_: did you changed something special since this appeared ?
[00:24] <Apple_Cat_> nope, the only only thing I can think of is installing virtual box
[00:25] <flipstar> any symptoms or is everything working ?
[00:26] <dwidmann> Apple_Cat_: try a domain you know exists, like google or something
[00:26] <flipstar> du you have an dns server running ?
[00:26] <Apple_Cat_> google works, but local wont
[00:27] <Apple_Cat_> nope, no dns server
[00:27] <Apple_Cat_> (besides the router)
[00:28] <flipstar> hm
[00:29] <jimmy51> howdy.  how can i re-initialize video hardware detection and setup (i just replaced my graphics card and now it's booting to console) ?
[00:29] <Dr_willis_> jimmy51,  what video card you have now? what was it befor?
[00:30] <jimmy51> Dr_willis_: it was a mobo integrated video, now it's an nvidia PCI card
[00:30] <flipstar> Apple_Cat_: *guessing* maybe vbox installed some kind of dns server for local vm's
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> jimmy51,  to get X back, you could edit the xorg.conf and change the 'Driver 'whatever'' line to 'Driver 'nv''
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> or ya can manually install the nvidia drivers.  following the !nvidia factoid page
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> !nvidia
[00:31] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> theres also a command to reconfigure..but i never can rember it.
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> dpkg-reconfigure  xSOMTHINGIAlwaysForget
[00:32] <jimmy51> Dr_willis_: ok... i'll look up the dpkg deal... the less manual stuff i do the less i can break
[00:32] <jimmy51> xserver-org?
[00:32] <flipstar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh :)
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> hm  Wow - tab completion works for dpkg-reconfigure on this machine.. when did that start working?
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> :)
[00:34] <jimmy51> k
[00:34] <jimmy51> do i choose "nv" for the driver type?
[00:35] <Apple_Cat_> nv is the free driver
[00:35] <jimmy51> i can enable the nonfree once i'm in kde, right?
[00:36] <jimmy51> (i mean, enable pretty easily...)
[00:36] <Apple_Cat_> yep
[00:37] <jimmy51> ok.  i think i'm going to try dpkg-configure xserver-xorg ... reconfigure is wanting to keep dealing with the onboard instead of the PCI card
[00:38] <flipstar> cant you disable the onboard card in bios ?
[00:38] <jimmy51> nope... i just get to pick which to try first
[00:39] <jimmy51> ah, gotta go
[00:39] <jimmy51> thanks for the help, i'll try again later
[00:39] <Apple_Cat_> good luck : )
[00:40] <draik> Is anyone using VirtualBox with USB support?
[00:40] <Apple_Cat_> nope, but have you read the manual ?
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> draik: yep!
[00:41] <draik> nosrednaekim: How did you get it to work? I followed the online instructions and nothing works. Not even Shared Folders
[00:41] <draik> The network path $PATH could not be found.
[00:42] <darkness_s> hi
[00:42] <nosrednaekim> draik: you need to enable guest addons... and TBH, the only guest i've run is Windows XP
[00:46] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Sorry. The last response I got was "Yep!"
[00:46] <draik_> nosrednaekim: How did you get it to work? I followed the online instructions and nothing works. Not even Shared Folders
[00:46] <draik_> The network path $PATH could not be found.
[00:48] <draik_> nosrednaekim: How do you get your USB to respond?
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> draik_: what guest are you using?
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> XP?
[00:50] <draik_> yes
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> draik_: did you install the guest addons?
[00:50] <draik_> yes
[00:51] <flipstar> im out..byebye
[00:51] <ere4si> I right click a link in xchat and select "open in browser" and kubuntu starts spawning more and more konquerer instances - is this normal?
[00:51] <ere4si> am I expecting too much?
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> draik_: well, shared folders worked automagically after installing the guest additions...i'm using NAT networking.
[00:52] <draik_> I'm using NAT as well
[00:52] <ere4si> arrrgghh
[00:53] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Which install are you using?
[00:53] <draik_> Repos or PUEL?
[00:55] <nosrednaekim> the non-open version
[00:55] <draik_> Where did you get the download?
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> virtualbox.com or whatever
[00:56] <draik_> DEB, right?
[01:04] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. reencoding some tv shows i recorded. to xvid. a 1 hr show is about 800mb. that about right? wondering if i can tweak it any smaller and still keep ok quality. its 480x480 res now.
[01:05] <Apple_Cat_> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> draik_: ooops sorry... launching virtualbo sucked up my ram and froze my computer :)
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> draik_: forgot to activate my swap
[01:08] <draik_> nosrednaekim: It's all good. I kept going through Google for answers/alternatives
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> find anything?
[01:10] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Nope
[01:10] <draik_> Same instructions
[01:10] <linuxguymarshall> I'm having Adept problems
[01:11] <linuxguymarshall> When I try to open Adept Manager I get his error message : "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude)."
[01:12] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: did adept recently crash?
[01:13] <ere4si> Dr_willis: I have some movies 1hr 40min long at 700mb xvid and they're ok
[01:13] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale:Yes. It asked me if I wanted Adept to try and resolve this problem and when I click yes it crashes
[01:13] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: do you have apt-get or aptitude running?
[01:14] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale: I'm looking at me processes right now and the only adept that is running is adept_manager which I need to be root to end
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: you can "sudo killall adept_manager"
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> in terminal
[01:15] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale: trying that right now...
[01:16] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale: That seemed to do it, thanks
[01:16] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: np.
[01:18] <Dr_willis_> ere4si,  hmm - thats about 2x the size im getting.. i must be missing some mencoder options.  of course in the time it takes for me to reencode them, i could just watch the shows. :)
[01:18] <ere4si> hehe
[01:19] <Dr_willis_> mpeg recordings from my mythtv box - they are 1 hr = 2.2 gb. :)
[01:19] <ere4si> Dr_willis: there's a mencoder to set the file size
[01:19] <ere4si> *option
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis_: thats nothin... 1 hour here is like 7 gb.... 720HD :)
[01:20] <linuxguymarshall> is there a wine channel?
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> #winehq
[01:20] <linuxguymarshall> nosrednaekim:ty
[01:21] <draik_> nosrednaekim: What did you do to get USB support?
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> draik_: i'm checking right now if I even have it..
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> I know I have shared folders
[01:23] <draik_> What did you do for Share Folders?
[01:23] <Dr_willis_> nosrednaekim,  i noticed the steamboy video i have. is like 2 hrs and 3.5gb.
[01:23] <draik_> The network path $PATH could not be found.
[01:23] <draik_> That is my error message
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> draik_: seems like I don't have USB support
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> my mp3 player isn't recognized
[01:25] <draik_> Ok
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis_: thats not HD is it?
[01:25] <draik_> I can deal with it if I can get Shared Folder support. At least this way I can go to the /media folder and get to the USB
[01:25] <Dr_willis_>  network path? thats.. weird..
[01:28] <draik_> Dr_willis_: nosrednaekim: Where can I upload an image for you to view?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> imageshack.ca
[01:30] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Doesn't exist
[01:32] <draik_> How about pastebin? Does that take images?
[01:32] <Dr_willis_> nosrednaekim,  steamboy was hi-def 1080p 5.1 soundtrack and all the goodies.. :) it was too much for many of my pcs to even play
[01:32] <Odd-rationale> draik_: If both of you are registered, you can send files directly...
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis_: 3.5in HD? wow...
[01:33] <draik_> nosrednaekim: imagebin.ca
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> draik_: looking for a place
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> draik_: imagebin.ord
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> imagebin.org
[01:34] <draik_> got it
[01:34] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Dr_willis_:     http://imagebin.ca/view/hkU_vko.html
[01:37] <crashhandler\> any recommendation for a simple photo manipulation apps....like photofiltre (m$ windows)?
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> crashhandler\: You don't like the gimp? (krita for kde)
[01:37] <draik_> crashhandler\: GIMP
[01:38] <crashhandler\> gimp is too bloated
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> draik_: i'm looking at it (taking a while to load)
[01:41] <crashhandler\> my krita seems corrupted,and cant be opened.however how to remove krita individually?when i search for krita in synaptics,there's only KOffice package there..i dun want to remove the whole package.
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> ah.. I see... let me see what my settings are
[01:45] <draik_> nosrednaekim: It suddenly worked
[01:45] <draik_> I typed it in manually rather than doing a search
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> draik_: heh :)
[01:47] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Thank you for looking into this for me.
[01:47] <draik_> Much appreciated for your time.
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> yerp, NP... though I didn't do anything ;)
[01:48] <draik_> nosrednaekim: You at least gave me the time for a response
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> :)
[01:52] <draik> nosrednaekim: I love the $HOTKEY+L feature
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> I like hitkey+F.... in a separate desktop, with active desktop borders
[01:59] <Spaceman_lap> Does anyone have Koffice installed that is willing to lend me a hand?
[02:00] <tin> i think i have most of it installed
[02:00] <Spaceman_lap> tin: Do you have Kword?
[02:00] <tin> yup
[02:00] <Spaceman_lap> It can go from PDF to OpenOffice, correct?
[02:01] <dwidmann> Umm, I've got it installed too .... should be easy as "sudo apt-get install koffice"
[02:02] <Spaceman_lap> dwidmann: I'm on Vista
[02:02] <Spaceman_lap> I just need a file converted
[02:02] <Spaceman_lap> If any kind soul could do it for me...
[02:02] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: I guess I can do that for ya
[02:03] <DarkriftX> what sources would i need to add to my source.list to have xchat installable?
[02:03] <DarkriftX> ive searched google and only found huge lists that im not sure i wanna try yet
[02:03] <Spaceman_lap> dwidmann: How can I get the file to you?
[02:03] <dwidmann> I don't think koffice can export to pdf (better quality), but using kprint you can print to pdf. I think.
[02:03] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: well, you should be able to direct connect and send it that way with your irc client
[02:04] <ere4si> DarkriftX: universe and multiverse
[02:04] <ere4si> !repos
[02:04] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[02:04] <Spaceman_lap> dwidmann: I sent the offer
[02:04] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: uh oh .... it says "connection actively refused :(
[02:05] <dwidmann> "
[02:05] <Spaceman_lap> Grr
[02:05] <dwidmann> Should be okay on my end. I haven't had any trouble with it before
[02:05] <Spaceman_lap> It's probably me
[02:05] <Spaceman_lap> ChatZilla more specifically
[02:06] <Spaceman_lap> Can I e-mail it over?
[02:06] <Spaceman_lap> Sorry this is such a pain, but I lost the original file...
[02:06] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: sure, I'll PM you my email
[02:06] <Spaceman_lap> Thanks
[02:06] <DarkriftX> ty
[02:07] <ere4si> k
[02:08] <Spaceman_lap> E-mail sent dwidmann
[02:08] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: kay, checking now
[02:10] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: got it, now to wait for it to open the message (IMAP in thunderbird ... it downloads the attachment with the message instead of downloading the message then the attachment like IMHO it hsould ... but oh well, a little waiting never hurt me)
[02:10] <Jsn0327> is there a way to lock the permissions of folders/files?  For some reason, every time that i open a folder as root in dolphin, it changes the permissions to root
[02:10] <dwidmann> ah, finally
[02:10] <Spaceman_lap> Thanks :D
[02:10] <snake__> hello. is there any way to install ubuntu from the iso in the hard disk because my cdrom is broken and i can not burn ubuntu in cd
[02:11] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: well, it's a pdf right now, what did you need it converted to again?
[02:11] <Spaceman_lap> snake__: Wubi
[02:11] <Spaceman_lap> http://wubi-installer.org/
[02:11] <Spaceman_lap> Open document
[02:11] <Spaceman_lap> I've been told that Koffice can go PDF->Open Document
[02:12] <snake__> Spaceman_lap: sorry. i forgot to say you that i am using ubuntu right now
[02:12] <Spaceman_lap> Ah
[02:12] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: well, I'll see if it can then
[02:12] <snake__> Spaceman_lap: i want to install 8.04 to a partition that i have
[02:13] <Spaceman_lap> snake__: Not sure then, sorry
[02:13] <snake__> Spaceman_lap: thank you anyway
[02:13] <Spaceman_lap> np
[02:14] <Spaceman_lap> You might want to ask around in #ubuntu too
[02:14] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: I couldn't get the KDE3 version of kword to open it, let me check a few things
[02:14] <Spaceman_lap> OK, thanks a lot
[02:15] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: maybe I'll have better luck with the kde4 version ... 11MiB later I'll know
[02:15] <Spaceman_lap> Lol
[02:15] <Spaceman_lap> Thanks
[02:15] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: what kind of file is it?
[02:15] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: I know if all you want is the text it should be copy+pastable though if you open it with a decent pdf viewer, but I'm assuming you care about more than just the text
[02:16] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: i have kword2 here
[02:16] <Spaceman_lap> There's a table I spent a bit of time formatting...
[02:16] <Spaceman_lap> Also just the formatting in general
[02:16] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: pdf
[02:17] <leo_rockw> ok, lemme try that...
[02:17] <Spaceman_lap> If you can't it's not a big deal
[02:17] <dwidmann> I'll have kword2 in about 60 seconds
[02:18] <leo_rockw> pdf is not showing in "all supported files"
[02:19] <leo_rockw> Could not import file of type application/pdf
[02:19] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: go figure then
[02:20] <Spaceman_lap> Oh well
[02:20] <dwidmann> yeah, I couldn't get it to import it either, didn't think I could.
[02:20] <Spaceman_lap> Thanks anyways
[02:20] <dwidmann> I tried though
[02:21] <dwidmann> No problem
[02:21] <Spaceman_lap> My info was wrong
[02:21] <Spaceman_lap> If you need a favor sometime, catch me in #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[02:21] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: sure thing
[02:21]  * r0dzilla is having a problem with kicker
[02:22]  * leo_rockw reads r0dzilla attentively
[02:22] <r0dzilla> I have panel set to auto-hide because I run to eve clients on a dual screen setup
[02:22] <r0dzilla> I usually switch between two desktops
[02:22] <r0dzilla> the other day something changed
[02:23] <r0dzilla> normally regardless of which virtual desktop I'm on, if I move the mouse to the upper portion of the 2nd monitor the panel drops down
[02:23] <r0dzilla> now, it's only doing it for one virtual desktop
[02:23] <r0dzilla> however,
[02:24] <r0dzilla> even though it's not dropping down for the 2nd virtual desktop, it is displaying ballon tips for icons on the panel
[02:24] <r0dzilla> when I move my mouse up to the top
[02:24] <r0dzilla> so now if I want to run a program I have to switch to virtual desktop 1 then move it to desktop 2q
[02:25] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: sometimes kicker refuses to show up for me and i solve it by doing this: rmb on kicker, panel set up, set it in the middle position (it changes itself to the left sometimes and for some reason it doesn't show up when it is on that setting)
[02:25] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: check out if that changes anything at all
[02:25] <r0dzilla> I thought something was different
[02:25] <r0dzilla> I almost tried that but I couldn't remember if it was in middle or not
[02:26] <r0dzilla> changed it but hasn't solved it yet
[02:26] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: sometimes when clicking it drags and drops and it gets reassigned to the left and that seems to break it
[02:26] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: mmhh... that's the only solution i had, sorry
[02:26] <r0dzilla> maybe when I log out it will fix
[02:27] <ere4si> r0dzilla: tried in a konsole -     dcop kicker kicker restart
[02:27] <r0dzilla> lemme try that
[02:28] <r0dzilla> that did it
[02:28] <ere4si> :)
[02:28] <leo_rockw> dcop = "magic"
[02:28] <ere4si> hehe
[02:31] <r0dzilla> is the new kde 4 in the hardy beta more feature-rich? the one you can install in gutsy seems to be kinda no frills
[02:33] <ere4si> haven't tried hardy yet - someone in #ubuntu+1 might give an answer
[02:34] <r0dzilla> think I'm gonna try it in virtualbox
[02:39] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: both have kde 4.0.2
[02:49] <jimmy51> kde4 is pretty slick
[02:50] <jimmy51> i'll have to show my boss ... he's sticking with vista because of the widgets
[02:53] <ere4si> in adept, what is the fuzzy clock source listed under?
[02:53] <dwidmann> jimmy51: it is slick, if only it were more complete (and stable too)
[02:54] <r0dzilla> vista stole widgets from linux and mac lol
[02:55] <r0dzilla> ever since I saw the first longhorn screenshots I screamed "ripoff!"
[02:55] <ere4si> konfabulator was the first I saw
[02:56] <dwidmann> r0dzilla:  my thoughts: "Auugh!! Windows!!?? Get some hot water! Get some disinfectant! Get some iodine!"
[02:56] <r0dzilla> ROTFL
[02:56] <r0dzilla> linux and mac have had widgets like that for some time now
[02:56] <beener> hey im trying to understand konversation can anyone lend a hand
[02:57] <dwidmann> beener: I suppose so
[02:58] <beener> need to know how to auto join and set up how to give voice
[02:58] <beener> automaticly
[02:59] <sudobash> anyone seen my redirect yet?
[02:59] <r0dzilla> click on file-> server list
[02:59] <r0dzilla> then click on say irc.freenode.net
[03:00] <r0dzilla> then click on edit
[03:00] <sudobash> #kubunt
[03:01] <r0dzilla> should bring up an edit screen where you can add channels to autojoin
[03:01] <beener> i mean when conection is lost
[03:01] <r0dzilla> hmmmm
[03:01] <r0dzilla> not sure
[03:01] <beener> or a serversplit happends
[03:01] <r0dzilla> lemme look
[03:01] <beener> thx
[03:01] <Colonel_Panic> how can I get OpenGL to work in Wine?
[03:02] <Colonel_Panic> anybody know?
[03:02] <dwidmann> you might be able to do the autovoice in the line labelled command in that edit menu beener
[03:02] <beener> ive been looking but i cant find anything
[03:02] <Colonel_Panic> hold on...lemme guess...
[03:02] <beener> what the cmd then?
[03:02] <Colonel_Panic> ... #wine?
[03:05] <r0dzilla> beener:  click Settings on menubar, Configure Konversation, go down to "Behavior" then click on connection
[03:06] <beener> k
[03:06] <beener> thx
[03:07] <r0dzilla> np ;)
[03:07] <beener> you able to boot me to c?
[03:07] <beener> yea didnt work
[03:09] <beener> yea when i get booted it wont auto conect
[03:10] <r0dzilla> hmmm
[03:16] <sudobash> here we go
[03:18] <jack__> what do I inter into fstab to force mount ntfs?
[03:18] <kgoetz> !ntfs
[03:19] <jack__> ubotu did not answer that question on my screen
[03:19] <kgoetz> neither. seems to be MIA
[03:19] <beener> well.. dern
[03:19] <ere4si> he's gone...
[03:19] <kgoetz> ubotu: ping
[03:19] <beener> cant figure this out
[03:19] <jack__> there haha now you have to actually type it :p
[03:19] <kgoetz> jack__: i dont know it :P
[03:19]  * kgoetz hasnt used ntfs for years
[03:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[03:20] <kgoetz> wow. uber lag.
[03:20] <jack__> I guess so :p
[03:20] <ere4si> hehe
[03:20] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[03:22] <WeaponX> hey
[03:23] <WeaponX> i know kubuntu there is a command locate
[03:23] <WeaponX> does anyone know a windows version of that command?
[03:23] <ere4si> #windows
[03:24] <WeaponX> ah kk
[03:24] <WeaponX> srry
[03:24] <LadyNikon> !windows
[03:24] <LadyNikon> wow no trigger for that.
[03:24] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[03:24] <LadyNikon> ah laggy
[03:24] <ere4si> !botlag
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botlag - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <LadyNikon> heh
[03:24] <leo_rockw> isn't it something like clippo_go_fetch ?
[03:24] <leo_rockw> clippy*
[03:25] <jack__> !lag
[03:25] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[03:25] <ere4si> hah
[03:25] <jack__> he didn't lag that time :p
[03:26] <jack__> !xkill|ubotu
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkill - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <jack__> hmmm odd ubotu should know about xkill :p
[03:27] <LadyNikon> !xkill
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkill - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <LadyNikon> ah.
[03:27] <LadyNikon> i thought it was the other part that made him wonder
[03:28] <ere4si> !info xkill
[03:28] <ubotu> xkill (source: xkill): X client - xkill. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB
[03:28] <jack__> odd
[03:29] <jack__> hey at least the lag is gone now :)
[03:29] <ere4si> if it is optional, in universe or multiverse you need to prepend with !info
[03:30] <jack__> so ubotu is not optional since we can do:
[03:30] <jack__> !ubotu
[03:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:31] <ere4si> a bot with a brain could never be optional :)
[03:32] <jack__> I haver spoken to lots of brainless bots :p
[03:32] <ere4si> hehe
[03:32] <jack__> but ubotu on the other hand is sometimes very helpful :)
[03:32] <ere4si> he earns his botsnacks I think :)
[03:33] <jack__> but this time actually he did not help me with knowing how to fgorce mount that drive.
[03:33] <jack__> my kubuntu is broken right now too
[03:33] <jack__> I upgraded from feisty & now everything is all broke
[03:34] <jack__> it keeps on saying that things are 1000 when they should be 000 or something like that.
[03:35] <blindfish> hi
[03:35] <blindfish> is ist possible to reinstall the content of /boot/ ?
[03:35] <jack__> !hi
[03:35] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:35] <jack__> I am not sure
[03:35] <ere4si> jack__: does this help - http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[03:36] <blindfish> i just had a little ... accident ...
[03:37] <ere4si> blindfish: /boot has the initrd.img - that is important
[03:39] <jack__> ere4si yes that is the right info butI am still in trouble with my broken kubuntuy
[03:40] <blindfish> my problem was ...
[03:40] <blindfish> i used to have an own partition for /boot/
[03:41] <blindfish> but when i installed gutsy i decided to put all into one /
[03:41] <ere4si> jack__: did you chown or chmod anything?
[03:41] <ere4si> blindfish: I have it like that
[03:41] <blindfish> now i wantet to remove the old /boot/ partition and resized the /
[03:41] <blindfish> seems that i didn't remember correctly
[03:42] <blindfish> and now everything in /boot is lost
[03:42] <blindfish> :(
[03:42] <ere4si> blindfish: will it boot at all?
[03:42] <blindfish> nope
[03:42] <blindfish> the notebook ist running with a live-cd
[03:43] <ere4si> blindfish: you have removed the image that it boots with - I don't know how to overcome that...
[03:44] <blindfish> hm, then i have to reinstall gutsy? humpf :(
[03:44] <jack__> As I said I upgraded frrom fiesty to gutsy & now my computer has lost its mind & says that no one is a sudoer & also a lot of other problems
[03:45] <BluesKaj> blindfish, any boot errors at all ?
[03:46] <jack__> this has happened 3 other times in the past when I have done this
[03:46] <blindfish> i don't know the exatly phrase, but grub can't find any kernel ;)
[03:47] <jack__> bliindfish you might have to do a reinstall
[03:47] <blindfish> okay, thank you
[03:48] <aib> flash that produces sound in my browser is not making it to my speakers, but mplayer works
[03:48] <aib> any tips?
[03:49] <jack__> what browser?
[03:49] <jack__> which browser?
[03:49] <aib> firefox
[03:50] <jack__> not sure
[03:52] <ere4si> jack__: I've never upgraded kubuntu - you can get corrupted packages during d/load - did you do it over wireless?
[03:53] <aib> aib: you're problem is that you started mplayer before you started firefox. close mplayer, close firefox and then go to youtube to hear sound
[03:55] <ere4si> aib: where was that from?
[03:55] <jack__> no I did not do it over wireless
[03:56] <aib> that was the solution to my problem..
[03:56] <ere4si> aib: where did you ask/find?
[03:56] <aib> i figured it out myself
[03:57] <jack__> & no that one page did not fix my problem
[03:57] <ere4si> jack__: done a mem check lately?
[03:57] <jack__> it was a currut install but it does it every time I upgrade from feisty to gutsy, I have heard others say the same.
[03:58] <jack__> So it isn't just me
[03:59] <jack__> I don't need to check my system, my system is crap & all ubuntu knows it. I shouldn't even be running guis
[03:59] <beener> is there some one here who know the ins and outs of konversation or if theres a channle for it
[03:59] <beener> nvm found the channle
[03:59] <jack__> i am on a machine with 91Mbs ram
[03:59] <ere4si> jack__: I have a sep /home partition and always reinstall - only takes 2hrs as I keep a file of the changes I make
[04:00] <blindfish> thanks for your help again (even if there's no hope ^^)
[04:00] <blindfish> gn8 ;)
[04:00] <ere4si> bye
[04:00] <jack__> Yes & on a machine with 91Mbs ram it takes about 20 hours to do an install.
[04:01] <ere4si> jack__: with iG it takes 20 mmin for the install here - how do you do it?
[04:01] <ere4si> 1G = 1024 mb
[04:02] <jack__> with livecd it takes about 6 hours or longer
[04:02] <kgoetz> 91m= 0.09G
[04:02] <jack__> yes
[04:02] <kgoetz> jack__: live cd? at least use the alternate :)
[04:02] <jack__> I did use the alt iunstall took about the same amount of time
[04:03] <kgoetz> didnt think the live ran with <380mb of ram
[04:03] <ere4si> sorry jack__ but you run kubuntu with 91mb ram? - with just the desktop showing I use 84+ mb
[04:03] <jack__> I did an alt install of feisty then upgraded it to gutsey & that is when it whent all to hell
[04:03] <jack__> yes ere4si iot leaves me with only 1mb of ram free
[04:04] <ere4si> jack__: there isn't a *buntu that is recommended with so little ram - except maybe fluxbuntu
[04:04] <jack__> fluxbuntu is not an offical flaver
[04:04] <ere4si> no it isn't
[04:05] <jack__> I have tried fluxbuntu, & damn small, & puppy
[04:05] <ere4si> I'd try puppy on that
[04:05] <jack__> they all are not made to run well for one with that low of ram
[04:05] <jack__> haha I beet you to it :p
[04:05] <kgoetz> puppy and dsl are designed for that much ram
[04:06] <ere4si> these days cli is the only option for that little ram
[04:06] <jack__> nope only deli linux looks promiosing, but I can't get it to install because lilo keeps failing
[04:06] <ere4si> jack__: is more ram an option?
[04:06] <jack__> no it is not
[04:07] <kgoetz> is another system an option?
[04:07] <jack__> not unless you wish to buy it for me
[04:07] <ere4si> jack__: I use the ubuntu server install with fluxbox as a widow manager and it uses 46mb after boot
[04:08] <ere4si> *window
[04:08] <jack__> I have been talking about this on the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/debian ircs for the past 3 years.
[04:08] <kgoetz> jack__: i'll pass. i dont care about your computing that much
[04:08] <jack__> here it is 3 years later & still no one has been able to help me
[04:09] <ere4si> jack__: says it all really - it's you're system that is the issue - sorry
[04:09] <jack__> Yes I know
[04:09] <ermali86> hello. can anyone tell me please how to make wlassistant to run as root at the startup
[04:10] <ere4si> jack__: and as more time passes the less chance you have of using that system
[04:19] <jack__> But I don't want to use this system
[04:19] <ere4si> ?
[04:20] <jack__> I just want to check to see if my external usb ntfs harddrive is okay or not.
[04:21] <ere4si> jack__: what have you tried so far?
[04:21] <jack__> installing kubuntu
[04:22] <jack__> I started the install last night at 8PM & it finished at 7PM tonight
[04:23] <ere4si> jack__: if it runs try in a konsole -   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/filename - if sdb1 is the usb and filename is a dir you made in /media
[04:23] <jack__> it will say I do not have permission 1000 should be 0000
[04:24] <ere4si> ahh - the guid issues
[04:24] <jack__> yes
[04:24] <jack__> that is what I said 2 hours ago
[04:24] <ere4si> you through me with the 91mb ram statement :)
[04:25] <ere4si> *threw
[04:25] <jack__> I would show you that I said it 1 hour ago, but kubuntu won't let me paste anything because I do not have permission
[04:26] <jack__> but I said it at 20:34
[04:27] <jack__> so hopw do I fix gujid?
[04:27] <jack__> guid
[04:28] <ere4si> jack__: can you access from the menu   system settings - user management?
[04:29] <Darkrift2> When trying to install my wifi with ndiswrapper, after following the tutorial my wifi isnt working like it should be and i get the following in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m7113441c  - Can anyone tell me what i could to do solve this?
[04:29] <ChameleonDave> Hello everyone.  Does anyone use Katapult here?
[04:29] <maduser> is it broadcom?
[04:29] <ermali86> hello. can anyone tell me please how to make wlassistant to run at the startup
[04:29] <maduser> Darkrift?
[04:30] <Darkrift2> yes maduser
[04:30] <jack__> yes
[04:30] <Darkrift2> and yes, ive tried all the tutorials
[04:30] <Darkrift2> im way past that and it still fails
[04:30] <maduser> ok there is a program you can download that will do it in a second
[04:30] <Darkrift2> really
[04:30] <jack__> yes I am in user management right now
[04:30] <Darkrift2> why do i not believe that
[04:30] <maduser> somwhere in the ubuntu forms
[04:30] <Darkrift2> if ther eis
[04:30] <Darkrift2> i will go mad
[04:30] <maduser> I'll send it to you via DCC
[04:30] <ere4si> jack__: does admon work?
[04:30] <jack__> yes, I think
[04:30] <Darkrift2> ive spent soo many manhours dealing with this crappy chipset
[04:30] <ere4si> *admin
[04:31] <Darkrift2> could you also link me to the thread?
[04:31] <jack__> well I typed in the password so I hope it will work
[04:31] <Darkrift2> i thought i had read everything on ubuntu forums about broadcom
[04:31] <maduser> and help you through the install
[04:31] <Darkrift2> nice
[04:31] <ere4si> jack__: right click your user and select modify
[04:31] <maduser> as soon as i find it
[04:31] <jack__> nope
[04:31] <jack__> it didn't work
[04:32] <Darkrift2> im not used to xchat
[04:32] <Darkrift2> so i dont know if my dcc will accept
[04:32] <Darkrift2> ok, that ws easy
[04:32] <maduser> ok acept the offering from dcc
[04:32] <Darkrift2> i did
[04:32] <maduser> hmmm
[04:33] <ere4si> jack__: without admin rights I don't know how to change you're settings - sorry
[04:33] <jack__> yeah, the tale of my last 3 years on linux
[04:33] <maduser> did you get it?
[04:33] <Darkrift2> nope
[04:33] <Darkrift2> lemme check my settings
[04:34] <maduser> its still waing for you to accept
[04:34] <maduser> a new tab should have oppened
[04:34] <Darkrift2> it did
[04:34] <maduser> woops wait
[04:34] <Darkrift2> and as soon as it did i clicked accept
[04:34] <Darkrift2> and after a while it said failed
[04:34] <Darkrift2> accepted again
[04:35] <ere4si> jack__: I hope you can accept that it is you systems lack of resources not the various linux distros that is the issue - you're asking alot from very little
[04:35] <jack__> time stands still for me, well the world moves around me
[04:35] <maduser> ok screw this whats your email?
[04:36] <jack__> Yes, do not worry whenever I get a new computer it will be linux, I have always understood that it is the computer. I have tried over 20 distros, all wonderful, just not very usable on this computer.
[04:36] <ere4si> jack__: I do sympathise :)
[04:36] <jack__> I yearn for the day that MS will go bankrupt & open source unix-like OSes rain supreme
[04:37] <Darkrift2> lol maduser i think i found the problem
[04:38] <Darkrift2> a dialog is opening asking where to save it at, but its opening behind xchat and i dont see it unless i minimise
[04:38] <maduser> ok
[04:38] <maduser> fixed it?
[04:38] <Darkrift2> think so
[04:38] <Darkrift2> try to dcc once more
[04:39] <maduser> ok I'll try again
[04:39] <DrJuano> hi
[04:39] <maduser> ok is waiting
[04:39] <Darkrift2> darn
[04:39] <Darkrift2> not even letting me accept this one
[04:39] <CarlosR> hi DrJuano
[04:39] <maduser> I know
[04:39] <maduser> give me a minute
[04:39] <Darkrift2> no rush
[04:40] <Darkrift2> this has taken me a week, so a few minutes wont hurt me
[04:40] <Darkrift2> i spent 3 weeks last time i installed kubuntu
[04:40] <DrJuano> i got a huge trobule with kubuntu, describing: i`ve installed an usb modem as i usually do in ubuntu, but when kde starts all the KDE`s programs doesn t understand that there is an internet connection
[04:40] <maduser> ok
[04:41] <Darkrift2> accept is greyed out now
[04:41] <Darkrift2> did yo email it?
[04:42] <maduser> nah here is the url with the file and instrutions
[04:42] <Darkrift2> ok, sorry
[04:42] <maduser> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[04:42] <Darkrift2> its probably my end
[04:42] <maduser> thats it
[04:42] <Darkrift2> like i said, im new to xchat
[04:43] <maduser> that web page has the file and the instrutions
[04:44] <maduser> go to the part that says Dapper and Edgy (and Feisty/Gutsy with ndiswrapper)
[04:45] <maduser> Darkrift do you use Konversation?
[04:45] <maduser> or have it?
[04:45] <Darkrift2> i might have it
[04:45] <Darkrift2> but dont normally use it
[04:46] <Darkrift2> i have to reg at ubuntu forums real fast
[04:46] <maduser> ah
[04:50] <Darkrift2> ok, ran it
[04:50] <Darkrift2> said it worked, but still no internet
[04:51] <maduser> did you put in your install cd?
[04:51] <Darkrift2> yes, and its mounted at /cdrom
[04:52] <maduser> did you type sudo ./ne
[04:52] <maduser> i mean sudo infront of the program?
[04:52] <Darkrift2> yes
[04:52] <Darkrift2> it ran, and said it worked
[04:52] <Darkrift2> but it didnt
[04:52] <maduser> how long did it take?
[04:53] <Darkrift2> like 4-6 seconds
[04:53] <Darkrift2> im reading the script now
[04:53] <maduser> you did not do it right
[04:53] <Darkrift2> to see what might have failed
[04:53] <Darkrift2> lol
[04:53] <maduser> it should take longer
[04:53] <Darkrift2> i did exactly what it said
[04:53] <Darkrift2> i unpacked it
[04:53] <Darkrift2> then ran sudo ./ndiswrapper_setup
[04:53] <maduser> with cd in driver?
[04:53] <ChameleonDave> I've been told that the Katapult maintain often hangs around here.
[04:56] <jack__> ere4si: also since I have tried around 20 or more linux distros I can tell you which ones get my vote if a person has a good enough machine, first off anything that is deb based with KDE desktop ius a winner, that being said whenever I get a fast good computer I will either install on it Kubuntu or LinmuxMint KDE edition as those are the 2 distros I recomend for people who have good machines, they are really nice.
[04:57] <Darkrift2> ok, the script worked fine
[04:57] <Darkrift2> i just checked the log
[04:57] <Darkrift2> it just doesnt work like the tutorials dont work
[04:57] <Oswal_Kovelpod> jack__:  what about debian ?
[04:57] <maduser> ?
[04:57] <Darkrift2> the script does everything i have been doing
[04:57] <maduser> yeah
[04:57] <Darkrift2> it just uses its own version of the drivers which i had hoped would work
[04:57] <Darkrift2> nothing failed in the script though
[04:57] <jack__> Debian is really good, I like debian a lot if you are willing to convert all your mp3s to ogg & such it is amazing
[04:58] <maduser> what version of Broadcom do you have?
[04:58] <Darkrift2> 4311
[04:58] <ere4si> jack__: I agree with the deb based point but mint is based on a distro that is based on a distro - seems convaluted imho - kde is nice tho - needs some work but
[04:58] <Oswal_Kovelpod> debian has non-free repos did you know that ?
[04:59] <jack__> Yes I knew that Oswal, but if you are going to do that you might as well use Ubuntu or LinuxMint or another debian based distro
[04:59] <Oswal_Kovelpod> so is not necessary to convert all your music ^^
[04:59] <kgoetz> debian has mp3 support via gstreamer in main
[05:00] <jack__> To me though debian is an amazing distro, & stable as can be, but there has been so many amazing distros based on it that add so much good things to it
[05:00] <Oswal_Kovelpod> so for you debian is now incomplete ?
[05:00] <Oswal_Kovelpod> o.0
[05:01] <jack__> No for me debian is amazing, just very overly stable & a bit strict in the free ruule :p
[05:02] <dwidmann> jack__: very overly stable, if you want to fix that problem switch to sid :)
[05:02] <Oswal_Kovelpod> yeah :D
[05:02] <jack__> I have used sid, very nice, though as I said so many of the deb based distros have such nice & welcomed customizations :)
[05:03] <jack__> I prefer Etch to sid though
[05:04] <ere4si> jack__: that is the point - if a distro based on debian can do it - you can with debian
[05:05] <ere4si> and a distro based on a distro based on debian...
[05:05] <jack__> Also ere4si linuxmint is starting to test builds strictly based on debian without being based on ubuntu, also the linuxmin apps can be installed & work just fine on ubuntu & debian, so really the whole distro based on distro based on distro thing no longer applies.
[05:06] <ere4si> of course it applies jack__  :)
[05:06] <kgoetz> interesting as i find this, perhaps it should be in -offtopic?
[05:06] <jack__> no because I got most of the linux mint apps to work on debian etch
[05:06] <jack__> yes it should be in offtopic
[05:06] <ere4si> hehe :)
[05:07] <Jucato> (definitely in -offtopic...)
[05:07] <jack__> is there a kubuntu-offtopic or will it go to ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:07] <ere4si> !ot
[05:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:08] <jack__> will you be there ere4si?
[05:09] <ere4si> jack__: going there now
[05:10] <ChameleonDave> Hello everyone.  Does anyone use Katapult here?
[05:11] <ere4si> I tried it from the menu once - got an icon on the desktop then....nothing
[05:11] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: what seems to be the problem?
[05:12] <Jucato> ere4si: you're supposed to launch it with Alt+Space (after running it)
[05:12] <ere4si> ahh
[05:12] <ere4si> it just went away
[05:13] <Jucato> ere4si: Alt+Space, then type something (like a program name or a play list or numbers for the calculator
[05:13] <ChameleonDave> I recently lost my user directory (/home/david), when the partition it was on became corrupted.  When I created a new user directory, katapult no longer worked correctly.  It fails to start in fact.
[05:14] <ChameleonDave> All it does it announce the shortcut key to bring up the app, but the app window itself never appears, the shortcut key does nothing, and there is no katapult icon in the system tray.
[05:14] <ere4si> Jucato: is that what it does? - I have things I launch in a dock - one click
[05:14] <ChameleonDave> I want it to reside in the system tray as before.
[05:15] <ChameleonDave> I used to start Katapult by putting it in my KDE Autostart directory.
[05:15] <ChameleonDave> and it would then be there in my system tray, ready for use.
[05:15] <leo_rockw> katapult wins
[05:15] <Jucato> ere4si: it's a launcher for apps (you can't have all items in your panel right? :P), amarok playlists, documents (this one's ugly), google searches, spell checking, calculator
[05:16] <leo_rockw> katapult + yakuake = killer apps
[05:16] <ere4si> Jucato: I'm flattered you think I do so much :)
[05:16] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: Alt+Space, then Ctrl+C, and select Configure Katapult. then enable the system tray icon. or don't you even see the big Katapult icon when you press Alt+Space
[05:16] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: As I said, there is no icon.
[05:16] <Jucato> ere4si: I don't
[05:16] <ere4si> :(
[05:16] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: the big icon/black window?
[05:17] <ere4si> hehe
[05:17] <Oswal_Kovelpod> damn it installer just stop it -.-
[05:17] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: I know how Katapult is supposed to work.  I used it for months.  The point is that it has stopped working.
[05:17] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: yep, can't beat 'em
 Jucato: is that what it does? <-- ask a question. I answer
[05:17] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: hm... can you try starting it from Konsole to see if it starts at all?
[05:17] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: When it is run, all I see is the brief message informing me of the shortcut key to use the app.  That's it.
[05:17] <ere4si> Jucato: thnx
[05:18] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: I know you're trying to help, but you are being a little annoying.
[05:18] <Jucato> fine
[05:18] <sigma_1234> where does apt-get store downloaded packages?
[05:19] <ChameleonDave> Is anyone here familiar with the nuts and bolts of Katapult, and possible conflicts that might prevent it from starting correctly?
[05:19] <Jucato> sigma_1234: /var/cache/apt/ iirc
[05:20] <sigma_1234> do they stay there forever?
[05:20] <Jucato> fwiw, that's the point of running it from Konsole... so that you can see what might be preventing it from starting correctly... but since you know so much
[05:20] <leo_rockw> sigma_1234: unless you do apt-get clean
[05:21] <Jucato> sigma_1234: they're supposed to be automatically cleaned every 30 days I think
[05:21] <sigma_1234> how can i stop the auto clean?
[05:22] <ChameleonDave> Sigma_1234: the packages are stored at /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:23] <ChameleonDave> Sigma_1234: open Synaptic and go to Preferences to change stuff like autocleaning
[05:24] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: It's just that you were asking for information that I had already given.
[05:25] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: did you give information about any error messages that might have appeared if you started it in Konsole?
[05:25] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: When I run Katapult, Konsole doesn't give me much info on what is happening.  It does however give a long list of items such as "Ignored duplicate item: Shisen-Sho"
[05:26] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: It is a long list of apps in the KDE menu, which Katapult presumably indexes.
[05:26] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: They look like they are probably apps which are duplicated in KDE3 and KDE4, both of which I have installed.
[05:27] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: There is no failure message.
[05:29] <ChameleonDave> It's all gone quiet...
[05:31] <pyro17> so quiet...
[05:33] <dwidmann> I can almost hear the metaphorical crickets chirping, so peaceful .... lol
[05:37] <pyro17> whats the diff between pimary and logical partition
[05:38] <pyro17> oh nm
[05:38] <_dennister> g'evening folks...ubuntu-server channel seems to be asleep, so wondering if the night-owl-experts  in here could help me with getting phpmyadmin to show up in my new apache site
[05:39] <_dennister> pyro17: u can only have 4 primary, untold logical partitions within an extended partition
[05:39] <pyro17> ah
[05:39] <_dennister> actually, 'untold' should be 'big number'
[05:40] <_dennister> pyro17: u must have one primary...i often use 2-3, then build the extended, and logical ones within the extended
[05:40] <pyro17> yea its going to be the first one on the drive
[05:41] <_dennister> then, if you add another hdd later, it's easy to put it's partitions into the extended as logical
[05:41] <_dennister> u got  it
[05:41] <pyro17> ye
[06:25] <marjan> !x-rar
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-rar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <marjan> does any one knows how can i open a X-rar
[06:27] <ere4si> marjan: is that a   .rar    file?
[06:27] <marjan> yes
[06:27] <ere4si> !rar
[06:27] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:27] <marjan> but smb said it is for mac
[06:28] <ere4si> who's smb marjan
[06:28] <marjan> shane
[06:28] <marjan> :P
[06:28] <ere4si> marjan: if the file is for mac it prob won't work on kubuntu
[06:28] <Jucato> I'm guessing "smb" meant "somebody" in this case...
[06:29] <Jucato> (please try to use compelete words...)
[06:29] <marjan> ahhhhhh
[06:29] <marjan> ere4si:  is there a program to open it
[06:29] <marjan> after all its all a UNIX
[06:30] <ere4si> marjan: there is an app called unrar I believe in the repos
[06:30] <ere4si> !info unrar
[06:30] <ubotu> unrar (source: unrar-nonfree): Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1.1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 232 kB
[06:31] <marjan> ere4si: can i send you one file and tell me if you can open it
[06:31] <ere4si> marjan: I don't open files I don't know...
[06:31] <marjan> k
[06:31] <marjan> sorry
[06:32] <ere4si> marjan: install unrar and you'll open it
[06:32] <marjan> i cant found it
[06:32] <Kr|ptiX> !broadcom
[06:32] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[06:33] <kgoetz> !msgthebot | Kr|ptiX
[06:33] <ubotu> Kr|ptiX: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[06:33] <marjan> will KArchiver work ere4si
[06:33] <ere4si> marjan: once unrar is installed yes
[06:35] <marjan> where can i found this "unrar" its not in add/rem ere4si
[06:35] <newday4me> hi -little backround last week i found 2 many errors 2 count in my winxp so i emergency boot orig. winme and after 2 days of being in the prehistoric era of software i downloaded ubuntu 7 and tried puppy live and finally just instlld kubuntu when i kept seeing everything I wanted was designed for kde....my? how do i set up network connections and should i?
[06:35] <ere4si> marjan: you need to enable more repositories
[06:35] <ere4si> !repos | marjan
[06:35] <ubotu> marjan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[06:36] <marjan> k
[06:36] <marjan> but i am on  GNOME
[06:36] <kgoetz> why are you asking here then?
[06:37] <kgoetz> newday4me: can you give us more details?
[06:37] <ere4si> marjan: the links are for ubuntu because the process is the same - ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu or ...
[06:37] <Jucato> (unrar should be available from the default repos...)
[06:38] <ere4si> Jucato: is in multiverse
[06:38] <Jucato> since Feisty, multiverse has been enabled by default
[06:39] <ere4si> k :)
[06:39] <Jucato> (unless you installed without an internet connection, then no repositories are enabled)
[06:39] <ere4si> ahhh
[06:39] <ere4si> of course
[06:39] <Darkrift2> hrmmmmm
[06:39] <newday4me> o.k.  network folder is embty and samba
[06:40] <kgoetz> newday4me: can you connect to the net from the computer?
[06:40] <ere4si> marjan: if you're on gnome then why karchiver?
[06:40] <newday4me> I'm nervous about desktop sharing ...-yes
[06:41] <kgoetz> newday4me: what do you mean desktop sharing?
[06:42] <Darkrift2> I am offering $15 to anyone who has a Revolution Money account and sucessfully gets my broadcom 4311 wireless card working for/with me. I have spent days (and last time I spent 3 weeks) getting it working, tutorial after tutorial, tip after tip. I know not everyone has one of these accounts, but thats all I can offer right now.
[06:43] <ere4si> we work for free here Darkrift2  - if we have the answer
[06:43] <Boohbah> Darkrift2: 32 or 64 bit?
[06:43] <Darkrift2> i know, but im getting desperate
[06:43] <Darkrift2> 32b
[06:44] <Boohbah> ok, have you installed ndiswraper?
[06:44] <Darkrift2> yes
[06:44] <Boohbah> *wrapper
[06:44] <Darkrift2> and ive tried like 12 sets of drivers
[06:44] <newday4me> it seems like one folder goes to another and either i dont have access or i dont know the answer ie:net folder info..what server ?    -Krfb
[06:44] <newday4me> and krdc
[06:44] <ere4si> Darkrift2: you need to find out the chip for a start
[06:44] <Darkrift2> im 80% sure last time i got it working was with ndiswrapper, but its been a while and it might have been the built in driver, but i doubt it
[06:45] <Darkrift2> i noted what chip i have
[06:45] <Darkrift2>  and sucessfully gets my broadcom 4311 wireless card
[06:45] <Kheops> hi hi
[06:45] <Kheops> somebody for help ? :)
[06:45] <kgoetz> !anyone
[06:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:45] <Kheops> i want to create ntfs partition on my kubuntu
[06:46] <Kheops> how can i do it ?
[06:46] <Darkrift2> i have vista, and the drivers vista uses dont work (they give an error about wrong format) so I have used drivers from tutorials, and lots of different ones from different laptop manuf's (even my own laptops xp drivers)
[06:46] <ere4si> Darkrift2: then the !broadcom link should get it working for you... - use xp drivers
[06:46] <Darkrift2> there is either something i am missing (another underlaying problem) or a special driver that i need that i have not found
[06:47] <Darkrift2> ive followed that one many times ere4si
[06:47] <Darkrift2> ive even followed the ones that link from that one
[06:47] <Darkrift2> and all the others on ubuntu forums that note 43xx
[06:47] <Darkrift2> ive even tried the script on ubuntu forums that supposedly does it all for you
[06:48] <Darkrift2> they all end by telling me "your wireless should now be working" and it isnt
[06:48] <ere4si> Darkrift2: I don't use any wireless - ask again in a little while when there are more folks available - sorry
[06:48] <Darkrift2> heh
[06:48] <Darkrift2> its ok
[06:48] <Darkrift2> ive been asking for 3 days... some ppl dive in but never get it solved
[06:48] <Darkrift2> hence me trying to sweeten the deal a little
[06:49] <Darkrift2> im sure ppl in here and in #linux are tired of hearing me ask, but i REALLY dont want to stick with vista
[06:50] <ere4si> Darkrift2: if it is a bcm43xx chip then it should get installed - be very careful each step
[06:50] <Darkrift2> i have
[06:50] <DarkriftX> When trying to install my wifi with ndiswrapper, after following the tutorial my wifi isnt working like it should be and i get the following in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m7113441c  - Can anyone tell me what i could to do solve this?
[06:51] <Darkrift2> there is soem of my dmesg output after trying the last time
[06:51] <Darkrift2> i get almost the exact same with every driver/tutorial i try
[06:53] <Kheops> i want to do a NTFS partition
[06:53] <newday4me> Darkrift2- can u back up important data, wipe out your drives and start fresh- reboot vista or a livecd/dvd -its a pain in the ... but i had to do it after days of looking at the lights on my modem say i was connected -but i wasnt
[06:53] <Kheops> can somebody help me ?
[06:54] <ere4si> Darkrift2: is it a notebook?
[06:55] <Kheops> hmmm
[06:55] <newday4me> Kheops- windows?
[06:55] <Kheops> NTFS
[06:55] <newday4me> are u using windows now
[06:55] <Kheops> NOOO
[06:55] <Kr|ptiX> where do i go to get help with install themes
[06:55] <Kheops> i just want to do a ntfs partition on my Kubuntu i said
[06:55] <Kheops> !
[06:56] <Kheops> k ?>
[06:56] <newday4me> well do a query for the kubuntu version of diskpart
[06:57] <Kheops> ?
[06:57] <Kheops> don't understand what u asking
[06:57] <Kheops> u want to know my kubuntu version ?
[06:57] <TeslaTony> Kheops: System>Partition Editor
[06:57] <Kheops> hmm and ?
[06:58] <Kheops> i don't have
[06:58] <Kheops> -> Partition Editor
[06:58] <Kheops> !
[06:58] <Kheops> tell me for command line
[06:58] <newday4me> in windows cmd promt diskpart- makes partitions, deletes partitions, enables choice of boot partition
[06:58] <TeslaTony> Kheops: Then install Gparted through Synaptic or Adept
[06:58] <Kheops> i don't HAVE WINDOWS
[06:58] <Kheops> god..
[06:58] <Kheops> how can i see if i have it installed ?
[06:59] <TeslaTony> You're using Kubuntu?
[06:59] <Darkrift2> sorry guys, i had to put my kids to bed
[06:59] <Darkrift2> yes, its a notebook
[06:59] <Kheops> YES
[06:59] <Kheops> i said 3 times
[06:59] <Darkrift2> and newday4me this is a fresh install... i installed it last night
[06:59] <Kheops> pay attention please
[07:00] <ere4si> Kheops: in konsole type    df -h   it will tell you the mounted partitions
[07:00] <Darkrift2> ive done nothing except install xchat on it
[07:00] <TeslaTony> Go into Adept and search for gparted, it should pull it up and whether it's installed
[07:00] <Kheops> i know
[07:00] <ere4si> Darkrift2: is the wireless onboard or usb pls?
[07:00] <Kheops> but i want to know how to make a NTFS partition
[07:00] <Darkrift2> its minipci
[07:00] <Darkrift2> builtin
[07:01] <kgoetz> Kheops: try cfdisk and mkfs
[07:01] <Kheops> both ?
[07:01] <kgoetz> !ntfs > Kheops
[07:01] <ere4si> Darkrift2: tried any alternative boot options like -   noapic nolapic   ?
[07:01] <Kheops> i read this yesterday
[07:02] <Kheops> not usefull
[07:02] <Darkrift2> i have to use apic=off to boot or i get odd looking graphics and cant continue
[07:02] <Kheops> so can somebody helps me ?
[07:02] <TeslaTony> Are you putting the partition on the primary hard drive? The one Kubuntu is running from? If you are, you'll probably have to do it from a livecd
[07:02] <Darkrift2> but i had to do that on my old install when i got it working
[07:02] <Kheops> nop
[07:02] <Kheops> not primary
[07:02] <Kr|ptiX> where do i go to get help with install themes kubuntu
[07:02] <kgoetz> Kheops: did you look at what i said about cfdisk?
[07:02] <Kheops> aha
[07:02] <Kheops> not usefull
[07:02] <Darkrift2> i do get an odd error about using something like -noplugnplay or something right after grep loads the kernel
[07:02] <Darkrift2> i dont think i had that before
[07:02] <kgoetz> Kheops: why?
[07:03] <ere4si> Darkrift2: willing to try      noapic nolapic     on a reboot then have another go to install the drivers?
[07:03] <Kheops> Because i want to make a NTFS partition
[07:03] <Kheops> !
[07:03] <Darkrift2> but it says trying to workaround and then continues to boot
[07:03] <kgoetz> Kheops: *SO*?
[07:03] <Darkrift2> whats the format for adding those?
[07:03] <Kheops> so how i do it ?
[07:03] <Darkrift2> -noapic ?
[07:03] <Darkrift2> or is it apic=no
[07:03] <Darkrift2> lol
[07:03] <kgoetz> Kheops: make a partition then format it. use cfdisk and mkfs respectively
[07:04] <ere4si> Darkrift2: I would add them at the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <Kheops> both ?
[07:04] <ere4si> noapic nolapic
[07:04] <kgoetz> yes. use both.
[07:04] <Kheops> how to make a partition NTFS
[07:04] <Kheops> ?
[07:04] <Kheops> that's the question not the answer
[07:04]  * kgoetz puts Kheops on ignore. if someone wants to help him, go for it.
[07:04] <ere4si> Kheops: use the windows disk on you're free space
[07:05] <Kheops> hmmmm lol i just had it
[07:05] <Kheops> i format it as ntfs but linux don't recocnize and i format
[07:05] <Kheops> to ext3
[07:05] <newday4me> darkdrift2- honestly i used windows for a long time and the driver assigning and compatability always gave me a migraine-
[07:05] <Darkrift2> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=867a86d6-474c-417d-bf33-70e2839b5601 apic=off ro quiet splash noapic nolapic
[07:05] <Darkrift2> like that?
[07:05] <Kheops> and now i want to make a NTFS partition to be recognize in Linux
[07:05] <Kheops> understand ?
[07:06] <ere4si> Darkrift2: yep
[07:06] <Darkrift2> ok, ill try it :S
[07:06] <ere4si> good luck - install the wireless after the boot
[07:06] <Kheops> hmmm somebody for help ?
[07:06] <Darkrift2> Kheops, linux reads ntfs just fine if you install ntfs3g
[07:06] <Kheops> no need
[07:06] <Darkrift2> i played WOW off a ntfs partition for 4 months with it
[07:07] <Darkrift2> you can make ntfs in gparted
[07:07] <ere4si> I thought ntfs-3g was default now?
[07:07] <Darkrift2> or cfdisk
[07:07] <Kheops> i have too a ntfs partition but i forgot how to do it
[07:07] <Darkrift2> do what?
[07:07] <Kheops> do a ntfs
[07:07] <Darkrift2> create one?
[07:07] <Kheops> can u know how ?
[07:07] <Darkrift2> use gparted, its gui
[07:07] <Kheops> he don't do ntfs
[07:07] <Kheops> :)
[07:07] <Darkrift2> easy to use
[07:07] <Darkrift2> erm, im sure it does
[07:07] <Kheops> no no
[07:07] <Kheops> :)
[07:07] <Darkrift2> you might need something else to format it
[07:07] <Kheops> i just use it
[07:07] <Darkrift2> yes yes
[07:08] <Kheops> !!!!!!!!!!
[07:08] <Kheops> i use it
[07:08] <Darkrift2> it does EVERY partition type ive ever seen
[07:08] <Kheops> to do the partition ext3
[07:08] <Darkrift2> then use cfdisk (command line)
[07:08] <Kheops> don't have access to write
[07:08] <Darkrift2> once you create a partition, use [type] to change it to nfts
[07:08] <Kheops> i gave the permision but no access...
[07:08] <Darkrift2> then you need something to format it
[07:08] <markc> how can I burn the current kubuntu iso from the command line ?
[07:08] <Darkrift2> most likely mkfs.ntfs (i think) (which i believe would be mkfs if you are installing it)
[07:09] <Darkrift2> anyways, i gotta reboot
[07:09] <Darkrift2> good luck
[07:09] <Kheops> hmmm somebody for help ?!?!?!?!
[07:09] <Apple_Cat__> Kheops: sorry my internet is playing around, man -k keyword is the command to look for a command so in your case man -k partition is what you want
[07:10] <Kheops> what ?
[07:10] <Kheops> can u help me or not?
[07:10] <DarkriftX> Kheops use CFDISK, i KNOW it will create one
[07:10] <Kheops> he don't have access to write
[07:10] <Kheops> u understand ?
[07:10] <DarkriftX> no
[07:10] <DarkriftX> i dotn understand
[07:10] <Kheops> i gave the access but still no access..
[07:10] <DarkriftX> if you cannot write, you need to be root probably
[07:10] <Kheops> NO
[07:10] <Kheops> i just did
[07:11] <Apple_Cat__> hrm ?
[07:11] <markc> ah right -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning
[07:11] <Kheops> so can i get some help ?1
[07:11] <ere4si> Kheops: you're confusing folks - start again pls
[07:11] <Kheops> lol ?
[07:11] <DarkriftX> he can create a nfts partition
[07:11] <ere4si> .
[07:11] <DarkriftX> says gparted wont do it
[07:11] <DarkriftX> but im sure it will
[07:11] <Kheops> NOO
[07:12] <Kheops> let me DarkriftX u don't know what to do it
[07:12] <DarkriftX> may not format it bt im almost sure ive created one before
[07:12] <ere4si> start at the beginning Kheops
[07:12] <Kheops> so let other ppls to help
[07:12] <Kheops> ok
[07:12] <Kheops> i have 2 HDD
[07:12] <ere4si> .
[07:12] <Kheops> first 2 partition
[07:12] <ere4si> ..
[07:13] <Kheops> 1 ext3 and 2 ntfs
[07:13] <Kheops> and on the other hdd
[07:13] <DarkriftX> ere4si are you in the us?
[07:13] <Kheops> i want a big partition
[07:13] <Kheops> ntfs
[07:13] <Kheops> u understand ?
[07:13] <ere4si> Dark nope Aussie
[07:13] <DarkriftX> damn
[07:13] <Kheops> i formated the HDD in win32 but linux don't recognize and i made it ext3
[07:13] <DarkriftX> i wish you were and had a revoultion money account
[07:13] <markc> ere4si: whereabouts ?
[07:14] <Kheops> U understand ?!?!?!?!?
[07:14] <DarkriftX> you were the first to solve my problem :)
[07:14] <ere4si> Kheops: use you're windows cd
[07:14] <DarkriftX> iwlist eth1 scanning works :)
[07:14] <Kheops> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[07:14] <Kheops> i just DID
[07:14] <ere4si> markc: brissy
[07:14] <Kheops> god..
[07:14] <Kheops> realy i want to speak with the ppl who can help
[07:14] <Kheops> please
[07:14] <ere4si> Kheops: I'm a long way away - what happened?
[07:14] <markc> ere4si: me on the GC
[07:14] <ere4si> markc: :)
[07:15] <Kheops> Jucato: are u here man ?
[07:15] <DarkriftX> Kheops sorry, we dont understand you very well, but apparently we cannot help you :S
[07:15] <DarkriftX> every time soemone tells you something you say no
[07:15] <Jucato> Kheops: do not be so demanding. no one here is paid to help you
[07:15] <DarkriftX> maybe you need a channel more for your language
[07:15] <Jucato> everyone here are just volunteers
[07:15] <Kheops> hmmm so close the channel
[07:15] <Kheops> and i can do a new channel
[07:15] <Kheops> ;)
[07:16] <Jucato> no
[07:16] <ere4si> Kheops: yep - do that
[07:16] <Kheops> so i can do a partition in this age ?
[07:16]  * Darkrift2 joins on wifi :)
[07:16]  * Darkrift2 bows to ere4si
[07:16] <ere4si> already yahhhh
[07:16] <Jucato> Darkrift2: so who earneed your $15? :)
[07:16] <lanoxx> how can i fix a broken install? adept always breaks with a commit error after installing a new package
[07:17] <Darkrift2> ere4si, but he doestn have a rev money account :(
[07:17] <ere4si> Jucato: told him we work for free :)
[07:17] <Darkrift2> :( *
[07:17] <Jucato> ere4si: aw...
[07:17] <Jucato> there goes your $15 :P
[07:17] <Sir_Corgi> Is there another channel besides #kubuntu-kde4 where I can ask questions about KDE4?  That channel seems dead as a doorknob.
[07:17] <Jucato> lanoxx: depends on what's broken or how broken it is. try installing packages from the command line to see what's happening
[07:17] <Kheops> hmmm "thank you" for helping me..
[07:17] <ere4si> the bow was more than enough :)
[07:17] <Jucato> !night | Sir_Corgi
[07:17] <ubotu> Sir_Corgi: It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[07:18] <Sir_Corgi> Holy.
[07:18] <Sir_Corgi> I'm sorry.
[07:18] <Kheops> can somebody help me this age to solve the problem ?
[07:18] <Darkrift2> i could have wasted 5-15 more days, 2-4 hours a day.... if i were being paid minimum wages $7 an hour, you could have saved me hundreds of dollars, I really wish you had an account with them so I could make a donation for your help
[07:19] <ere4si> Kheops: we try - you don't help us help you - so no
[07:19] <Darkrift2> and you are demanding :S
[07:19] <Kheops> lol ?
[07:19] <ere4si> no lol
[07:19] <Jucato> Kheops: your attitude doesn't help
[07:20] <Kheops> man if i stay here 10000000 hours to be help is a good thing ?
[07:20] <ere4si> Kheops: come back tommorrow
[07:20] <Kheops> ere4si: 10q for your help
[07:20] <Darkrift2> stop demanding help, and try to ask for it a little nicer and yo might get it
[07:20] <newday4me> ?I just opened KSire for the 1st time and it crashed, ?
[07:20] <emilsedgh> Kheops: even if you stay for 2 years, you might get no help
[07:20] <Darkrift2> your method is the problem
[07:20] <Kheops> because this channel is not for help..
[07:20] <Darkrift2> if you give me a few minutes, i will try to figure out how to do it
[07:20] <Kheops> i see..
[07:21] <Darkrift2> you are being a jerk
[07:21] <Darkrift2> if you want me to help, quit it
[07:21] <emilsedgh> btw whats your problem?
[07:21] <ere4si> oh no
[07:21] <Darkrift2> im currently installing gparted so i can figure out how you can do it
[07:21] <Jucato> Kheops: I am giving you your final warning. behave in this channel
[07:21] <lanoxx> Jucato: seems that there is a problem installing the java docs
[07:21] <lanoxx>  sun-java5-doc
[07:22] <Kheops> Jucato: u can do what u want u have @ ;)
[07:22] <Jucato> lanoxx: can you please put the errors in a pastebin
[07:22] <Jucato> I do not do what I want. only what's necessary. I'm not a control freak
[07:23] <Kheops> u have @ as i said
[07:23] <newday4me> sorry miss type KSirc
[07:23] <Kheops> u can do anything u want :)
[07:23] <lanoxx> Jucato: ok, wait a sec
[07:23] <jussi01> !u | Kheops
[07:23] <ubotu> Kheops: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[07:23] <Jucato> newday4me: hm... ksirc is pretty old now... can you start it from Konsole and see what errors come out when you start it and it crashes? (or you can try using Konversation for IRC)
[07:23] <Kheops> ha ha ha this is IRC i told u
[07:23] <Darkrift2> Kheops, im in the process of trying to help you
[07:24] <Darkrift2> if you dont shut up, you will be kicked and wont get my help
[07:24] <Darkrift2> just chill for a few minutes
[07:24] <Kheops> because u have @ too ?
[07:24] <Darkrift2> no0tic, because you are ticking others off
[07:24] <Darkrift2> and they will kick yo before i can help you
[07:24] <Kheops> they use kick because they can..
[07:24] <Kheops> i can stop them because i'm not God
[07:25] <newday4me> i dont need the program i just opened it out of curiosity - i just want 2 be sure it wont affect anything else ie:dependencies
[07:25] <kgoetz> Darkrift2: theres a reason i said i was going to stop helping him/her
[07:25] <Darkrift2> ok, you are right, gparted doesnt do it, let me check something else
[07:26] <Jucato> newday4me: it won't. it isn't even installed by default
[07:26] <ere4si> Kheops: please have another try tomorrow
[07:26] <Darkrift2> i know kgoetz but hes prob jsut frustrated so whatever
[07:26] <Kheops> because he don't know that's why he don't help..
[07:26] <Kheops> it is simple to understand
[07:26] <Darkrift2> i dont know, but im helping find out
[07:26] <Darkrift2> fdisk seems to know ntfs
[07:26] <Darkrift2> fdisk /dev/XXX
[07:27] <Kheops> hmm cfdisk don't have permision
[07:27] <kgoetz> Darkrift2: he may be, but theres no point you getting worked up over him
[07:27] <Kheops> to write
[07:27] <pyro17> theres so much to do
[07:27] <pyro17> i just installed kubuntu
[07:27] <Darkrift2> i didnt say cfdisk, just fdisk
[07:27] <Kheops> kgoetz: u may be kiked
[07:27] <newday4me> i have a small install addiction-just 2 see what things are- i'm new to this and its enthralling
[07:27] <pyro17> and im doing like codecs ans stuff
[07:27] <Kheops> Jucato: look at kgoetz..and tell him "the rules"
[07:27] <lanoxx> Jucato: http://pastebin.org/25215
[07:27] <Jucato> Kheops: you should read them yourself
[07:27] <Jucato> *and* follow them
[07:28] <Kheops> i "folow" them
[07:28] <Darkrift2> if nothing has write access to your disk, your problem is not creating a ntfs partition, its getting control over your disk first
[07:28] <Kheops> so somebody knows how to make and mount a NTFS partition on Kubuntu ?
[07:29] <pyro17> uh
[07:29] <pyro17> do it in wondows
[07:29] <pyro17> then mount it
[07:29] <Kheops> i just did
[07:29] <ere4si> Darkrift2: until he/she is able/willing to state the prob properly you won't be able to help him/heroh no
[07:29] <ere4si> oops
[07:29] <Kheops> but the kubuntu don't recognize it
[07:29] <Kheops> and i formated and made it ext3
[07:29] <Darkrift2> kharon0_,  in fdisk, nfts is type [7]
[07:29] <Kheops> and now i want to make ntfs
[07:29] <Jucato> lanoxx: did you follow the instructions there?
[07:30] <Darkrift2> and that ends my attempt at helping
[07:30] <markc> FWIW this burnt me a CD, thanks for the help -> sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 driveropts=burnfree -v -data kubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[07:30] <Kheops> pyro17: i have it ext3 now and i want it NTFS
[07:30] <Jucato> pyro17: install the "Kubuntu Restricted Extras" (kubuntu-restricted-extras) package to get most of the codecs
[07:31] <Kheops> pffffff i waste 2 hours for a simple thing..
[07:31] <Kheops> why linux have 10000 problems
[07:31] <Kheops> ...
[07:31] <Jucato> maybe Linux just is not for you
[07:31] <DarkriftX> its not linux, this is apparently an operator error
[07:32] <Kheops> mabey
[07:32] <Jucato> you're always free to go back
[07:32] <dwidmann> Kheops: name an os that doesn't have 10,000 problems
[07:32] <pyro17> Jucato i literally just found that package and looked and you said it too
[07:32] <pyro17> lol
[07:32] <ere4si> Kheops: you forgot the t on the end of pfffff
[07:32] <Darkrift2> i spent 3-4 days getting my wifi working... wasnt linux's fault, it was broadcoms fault and mine for not knowing the answer (which ere4si did)
[07:32] <ere4si> hehe
[07:32] <Kheops> hmm so how can i do a NTFS partition ?
[07:33] <Darkrift2> i already told you
[07:33] <Darkrift2> creating a ntfs partition is NOT YOUR PROBLEM
[07:33] <Darkrift2> your problem is getting control of your disk
[07:33] <Darkrift2> because if you dont have write access to the drive itself, you are not going to get very far
[07:33] <Kheops> it is in my pc and it is ext3 and i can write on it
[07:33] <Kheops> :))
[07:33] <Darkrift2> delete that partition
[07:33] <Jucato> Kheops: have you tried using a GUI tool like GParted or QtParted?
[07:33] <Kheops> yep
[07:33] <Darkrift2> then use cfdisk to recreate it
[07:33] <Kheops> works fine
[07:33] <Darkrift2> simple
[07:33] <Kheops> but not ntfs
[07:33] <ere4si> Darkrift2: it is a troll I THINK
[07:34] <Darkrift2> IF you have control over the disk
[07:34] <Darkrift2> heh, maybe
[07:34] <Darkrift2> i have a command for that :)
[07:34] <Jucato> ere4si: don't provoke please
[07:34] <Kheops> Jucato: tell to stop or i will respond to this childs
[07:34] <Kheops> ;)
[07:34] <dwidmann> Kheops: why not try the ext2/3 driver for windows instead?
[07:34] <ere4si> apologies to all
[07:34] <lanoxx> Jucato: will that fix the problem?
[07:34] <Jucato> lanoxx: let's hope so.
[07:34] <Kheops> because linux don't recognize
[07:34] <Kheops> the partition
[07:34] <pyro17> Jucato should i also do the automatix thing?
[07:35] <Kheops> first i formated with windows
[07:35] <Kheops> in ntfs
[07:35] <Darkrift2> lol dwidmann ..... windows has a hard enough time reading its own filesystems.... dont try to make it read others or your asking for real problems
[07:35] <Jucato> !ntfs | Kheops
[07:35] <ubotu> Kheops: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[07:35] <Jucato> pyro17: no
[07:35] <Kheops> and now i transform it in ext3
[07:35] <Kheops> Jucato: why u paste me that link i read it for 3 times
[07:35] <Kheops> no usefull
[07:35] <dwidmann> Darkrift2: not like ntfs-3g is perfect either
[07:36] <lanoxx> Jucato: ok worked, thx :)
[07:36] <dwidmann> Darkrift2: it can't even cope with the drive not having been unmounted properly at all in my experience.
[07:36] <Darkrift2> really
[07:36] <Darkrift2> i never noticed
[07:36] <Kheops> pffff Jucato help me or... ?
[07:36] <Darkrift2> i had a nfts partition i used to play wow on thru wine
[07:36] <Jucato> or what?
[07:37] <Kheops> i duno help ?
[07:37] <Darkrift2> i had to mount it by hand every time because i never added it to fstab (was a lil new still) and never unmounted it so sometimes it wasnt unmounted during power outages and still worked
[07:38] <dwidmann> Darkrift2: hmm, wouldn't cope for me :\
[07:39] <dwidmann> Darkrift2: gave me an error message saying that it hadn't been unmounted properly last time ... that I would either need to either mount it in windows and unmount cleanly, or try mounting with some sort of force option
[07:39] <Kheops> someone for helping here ?
[07:39] <dwidmann> darkrift2: It had lost power in the middle of a heavy transfer
[07:39] <Darkrift2> lol
[07:39] <Darkrift2> that sucks
[07:39] <Kohlrabi> dwidmann: I had this error all the time, too, about 1 year ago
[07:39] <Darkrift2> ahhh, mine was always idle during power loss
[07:39] <drif> am I able to force install/liveCD to run from memory only?
[07:39] <Kohlrabi> Was using etch and NTFS-3G-beta back then
[07:40] <dwidmann> Kohlrabi: I was using gutsy ... must have been about a month or two ago
[07:40] <Kohlrabi> mmh
[07:41] <Kohlrabi> I rarely boot intu kubuntu nowadays *cough*
[07:42] <dwidmann> anyhow, I'll be right back, need to log out/log in for some updates to take effect .... shouldn't take a reboot I hope
[07:49] <ere4si> if I use the nvidia driver in kubuntu I get a wsod - no probs in ubuntu
[07:49] <dwidmann> ere4si: weird
[07:50] <dwidmann> ere4si: I hope I don't run into similar issues with my newly ordered 8600gt
[07:51] <ere4si> dwidmann: it's a new install and hve ha more then a few issues - that was the main one
[07:51] <ere4si> *have had
[07:51] <dwidmann> ere4si: what version of kubuntu were you using?
[07:52] <ere4si> it's full of guts :)
[07:53] <ere4si> dwidmann: gutsy hehe
[07:53] <dwidmann> ere4si: I'll probably be putting hardy alpha 6 on it, hopefully I'll have better luck
[07:53] <dwidmann> ere4si: which specific card do you have?
[07:54] <ere4si> I wish you luck - first time I've had issues
[07:54] <ere4si> dwidmann: on this test box - tnt2
[07:54] <dwidmann> ere4si: I know my 6600gt, 7600gt, 7900gtx, and I forget what the other one was, but it too, have worked flawlessly for me
[07:55] <ere4si> can I get amarok to play on open?
[07:55] <ere4si> dwidmann: never had issues b4
[07:55] <dwidmann> ere4si: yes
[07:56] <dwidmann> ere4si: in settings, playback tab, resume on start
[07:56] <ere4si> dwidmann: this is the first kubuntu I've done more than just look at :)
[07:56] <ere4si> thnx
[07:57] <dwidmann> I think I'm going to bed .... 4:00am and the caffeine is starting to wear off
[07:58] <pyro17> why is the database locked
[07:58] <ere4si> dwidmann: nite
[07:58] <jussi01> !aptfix
[07:58] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:58] <pyro17> adept installer crashes when it trys to resolve
[07:59] <jussi01> pyro17: ^^
[08:00] <noaXess> what about lightscribe function on cd/dvd writing? any special tool for this?
[08:00] <pyro17> jussi01: thanks that worked
[08:00] <pyro17> why tho
[08:01] <dwidmann> noaXess: IIRC k3b has a lightscribe plugin available
[08:01] <noaXess> dwidmann: aha.. :) cool..
[08:02] <noaXess> dwidmann: is this intalled default or ned to be installed separatly?
[08:02] <jussi01> pyro17: sometimes adept crashes, it happens...
[08:02] <dwidmann> noaXess: seperately, I think, check http://www.k3b.org
[08:02] <noaXess> dwidmann: ok
[08:03] <noaXess> dwidmann: aha LaCie LithScribe Labler.. :)
[08:03] <pyro17> jussi01 but a restart didnt fix it...
[08:08] <sherl0ck> hey i lost my post in the forums, anyone help?
[08:08] <jussi01> pyro17: yeah, its pretty simple, when adept opens, it locks the database file so no other adept/apts processes can use it. (to prevent doubling up on data). if adept crashes, the database is left as locked, so you need to fix it.
[08:08] <sherl0ck> it was a tutorial was writing
[08:08] <Kheops> hi
[08:09] <Kheops> somebody to help ?
[08:09] <jussi01> sherl0ck: try #ubuntuforums
[08:09] <ubuntu> utiliser internet
[08:09] <ubuntu> ????
[08:10] <jussi01> !fr | ubuntu
[08:10] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:10] <jussi01> ubuntu-fr: type: /join #kubuntu-fr
[08:11] <Kheops> somebody to help ??????
[08:11] <jussi01> !ask | Kheops
[08:11] <ubotu> Kheops: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:12] <Kheops> i want to create a NTFS partition
[08:12] <Kheops> i have it ext3
[08:12] <Kheops> and now i want to make it NTFS
[08:12] <jussi01> Kheops: we went through this with you earlier.
[08:13] <Kheops> what ?
[08:15] <DarkriftX> lol
[08:16] <Kheops> nice channel
[08:20] <DarkriftX> how do i find out my own ip?
[08:20] <jussi01> ifconfig
[08:21] <DarkriftX> ty
[08:24] <Kheops> How can i make a NTFS partition ?
[08:44] <bashmb> kubintu> ubuntu
[08:50] <bashmb> kubuntu > ubuntu, yes?
[08:50] <doktoreas> hello everybody, is three a lugin to have a close button over tab in konqueror?
[08:51] <jussi01> doktoreas: you dont like the one on the right?
[08:51] <jussi01> bashmb: that depends an you, try them both and see what you think
[08:52] <klerfayt> how did you resolve the pager/compiz conflict in kubuntu hardy heron?
[08:52] <jussi01> klerfayt: hardy help in #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:52] <klerfayt> (I mean I haven't tried it myself, but in kubuntu gutsy gibbon the pager is incompatible with compiz)
[08:53] <sigma_1234> do fm radio cards work in ubuntu?
[08:53] <klerfayt> jussi01: you get hardly any answers related to kubuntu there
[08:55] <meeero> i'd need some help with knetworkmanager. recently i installed kubuntu for a friend, he uses wlan, some netgear-usb-device. after kubuntu was installed (and even before it worked as live-cd), knetworkmanager recognized the usb-device and searched for deviced to connect to. i selected the appropriate one and it worked. but since yesterday it does not do that any more. it doesn't search for lan-stations any more, it doesn't show any of
[08:55] <meeero>  the (about 5) available ones in his building. that's a problem now because he needs internet and otherwise i'd be forced to install windows and the manufacturer's software again. i believe it happened after he accidentaly set up something with manual control, after that - even if i set it to automatic-by-dhcp, it did not try to find any devices any more
[08:55] <meeero> the question now is how to configure knetworkconfig to behave as if it was installed for the first time - when it was searching for devices
[08:56] <meeero> i tried to remove its config file in .kde, but that did not work, any suggestions?
[08:57] <meeero> i'm going there in about one hour, i'll need to know what to do then, because there's not internet available
[08:57] <klerfayt> meeero: delete the file $HOME/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc
[08:57] <meeero> i did
[08:57] <klerfayt> meeero: maybe it's also in /root/?
[08:57] <meeero> nothing changed
[08:57] <meeero> hm, that could be so
[08:57] <meeero> since it uses sudo, as far as i know, since that is an administrative job
[08:58] <meeero> but i was not asked for the user's sudo-password, it starts at system-startup and doesn't work as it did when it was installed for the first time
[08:58] <meeero> i believe it's a bug in knetworkconfig, since it *should* search automaticaly for new devices when dhcp-automatic is set, true?
[09:00] <meeero> he also has eth0, an internal network-device to use with a cable, but that worked neither when i configured it using knetworkconfig, i just don't get it why
[09:00] <klerfayt> meeero: maybe this? /usr/share/apps/knetworkconf/
[09:00] <meeero> so this seems to be a bug at all
[09:00] <meeero> is there a config-file?
[09:01] <meeero> and what if i delete/rename that direcotry, will it be recreated?
[09:01] <klerfayt> meeero: oh wait, these are default config files
[09:01] <klerfayt> meeero: don't delete these ,-)
[09:01] <meeero> okay
[09:02] <lanoxx> hi how do i setup an ftp server?.
[09:03] <klerfayt> meeero: application homepage - http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager
[09:03] <meeero> you know, it's somekind funny that knetwormanager has it's help-page online....
[09:06] <lanoxx> lol
[09:07] <lanoxx> thats like the aol support telling people to download an update if the internet is not working
[09:08] <klerfayt> meeero: try asking it in #suse
[09:08] <meeero> so it's their project?
[09:09] <leo_rockw> doktoreas: install kde-tweak
[09:10] <klerfayt> meeero: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:AEAMpuNNA74J:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-663078.html+there+are+knetworkmanager+settings+stored&hl=et&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ee&client=firefox-a
[09:10] <leo_rockw> doktoreas: and adjust the konqueror thing in kcontrol
[09:11] <meeero> thank you very much, that may solve the problem
[09:28] <nitin> when we download packages using apt-get, in which folder are they saved?
[09:29] <SlimeyPete> nivek: /var/cache/apt/archives I think
[09:32] <nitin> hello
[09:32] <SlimeyPete> emr
[09:33] <SlimeyPete> nitin: /var/cache/apt/archives I think
[09:33] <nitin> can they be copied in a pendrive for future use?
[09:34] <lanoxx> can someone point me to a simple introduction on how to set up an ftp server with one user and read write access to a certain directory?
[09:35] <SlimeyPete> nitin: I should think so
[09:35] <SlimeyPete> nitin: they're just .debs, so can be installed manually using dpkg.
[09:36] <nitin> thanks, i got it
[09:38] <nitin> bye for now, SlimeyPete
[10:12] <franek> kubuntu is suck
[10:13] <jussi01> franek: please dont.
[10:13] <franek> jussi01: what?
[10:13] <jussi01> franek: if there is a problem, please ask and we will try to help solve ut
[10:14] <franek> this only my frustration
[10:14] <franek> :)
[10:17] <franek> howto install new k desktop in lastes ver?
[10:18] <kmaxtor> hello
[10:18] <clau30_> franek: KDE3 or KDE4?
[10:18] <jussi01> franek: kde4?
[10:18] <kmaxtor> if i update my kde 3 to 4
[10:18] <kmaxtor> what happen?
[10:18] <franek> i have kde 3
[10:18] <jussi01> kmaxtor: you should be ble to use both
[10:18] <jussi01> !kde4
[10:18] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:18] <clau30_> kmaxtor: KDE installes both
[10:19] <kmaxtor> what reprositories available to update my kde 3
[10:19] <clau30_> kmaxtor: Kubuntu installes both :)
[10:19] <jussi01> kmaxtor: please see the link from ubotu
[10:19] <lg188_> hello
[10:19] <franek> yo:)
[10:19] <clau30_> !kde4 kmaxtor
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde4 kmaxtor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <jussi01> clau30_: you need the | to separate them
[10:20] <lg188_> i would like to install css but linkux thning help ?
[10:20] <lg188_> thing*
[10:20] <clau30_> jussi01: right, thanks :)
[10:20] <jussi01> :)
[10:20] <clau30_> !kde4 | kmaxtor
[10:20] <ubotu> kmaxtor: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:20] <clau30_> lg188_: css?
[10:21] <kmaxtor> what new in kubuntu 8,,,,
[10:22] <jussi01> kmaxtor: please go to #ubuntu+1
[10:22] <jussi01> kmaxtor: and read the topic there
[10:32] <noaXess> is there another pdf editor tool than pdfedit?
[10:33] <jussi01> noaXess: not that i know of
[10:33] <noaXess> pdfedit hangs often if i want save or edit a pdf
[10:33] <noaXess> and on saving
[10:33] <noaXess> now it hangs..
[10:34] <jussi01> noaXess: I just saw a blog which said flpsed can do it....
[10:34] <jussi01> noaXess: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/11/editing-pdfs-in-ubuntu/
[10:35] <noaXess> jussi01: ok
[10:35] <noaXess> thx
[10:41] <noaXess> jussi01: but pdfedit has more functions.. hm..
[10:41] <jussi01> noaXess: yes, it does.
[10:41] <fess> hi
[10:42] <jussi01> hi fess
[10:42] <fess> hi speak rus?
[10:42] <jussi01> !ru
[10:42] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:43] <jussi01> morning jono
[10:43] <fess> говорит хто небуть.
[10:43] <fess> ?
[10:43] <jussi01> fess: type: /join #ubuntu-ru
[10:43] <jono> hey jussi
[10:43] <fess> ????
[10:46] <kmaxtor> what do u mean kde alpha edition
[10:46] <kmaxtor> if update my kde 3 to 4 is alpha edition
[10:52] <lg188_> clau30_: counter strike source ...
[10:54] <lg188_> hello ?
[10:55] <jussi01> lg188_: whats up?
[10:56] <lg188_> jussi01: hello  i need somehelp installing couneterstrike source on kubuntu
[10:56] <jussi01> lg188_: I have no idea about that
[10:59] <lg188_> jussi01: np
[11:01] <clau30_> lg188_: sorry, don't know either
[11:01] <lg188_> jussi01: only little bit not good , i would like cs: s on kubuntu i dont now if wine can handle it probably not
[11:01] <lg188_> no problem
[11:01] <jussi01> !appdb | lg188_
[11:01] <ubotu> lg188_: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:02] <lg188_> ye steam is on linux whooho
[11:03] <clau30_> lg188_: try google
[11:03] <kmaxtor> what i can do to enabled my video card
[11:03] <clau30_> lg188_: one quick search and found http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5182.html
[11:03] <kmaxtor> my video card is nvidia i can't enable
[11:03] <kmaxtor> please me to solve my problem
[11:03] <jussi01> !ati | kmaxtor
[11:03] <ubotu> kmaxtor: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:05] <lg188_> clau30_ + jussi01 n thnks a lot
[11:05] <jussi01> :)
[11:11] <kmaxtor> how to fix my apt
[11:11] <SlimeyPete> kmaxtor: what's wrong with it?
[11:12] <kmaxtor> error
[11:12] <SlimeyPete> what error?
[11:12] <kmaxtor> i can't update my apt
[11:12] <kmaxtor> locked
[11:13] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | kmaxtor
[11:13] <ubotu> kmaxtor: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:17] <lg188_> bye
[11:17]  * lg188_ neds cookie
[11:17] <lg188_> needs*
[11:23]  * lg188_ cookie give me cookie
[11:23] <lg188_> need to go bye
[11:30] <kmaxtor> please help me to fix my apt database
[11:30] <doktoreas> How can i load a lib that is not in the default path?
[11:30] <doktoreas> i used lddconfig in other dists
[11:30] <kmaxtor> i can't open my apt, how restore my original setting
[11:31] <kmaxtor> the apt can't opened how to restore the original configuration
[11:32] <kmaxtor> hello
[11:35] <Dr_willis> !fixapt
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <Dr_willis> !aptfix
[11:35] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:35] <Dr_willis> whats the exact error message anyway?
[11:36] <kmaxtor> the APT database could not be opened
[11:36] <kmaxtor> this may cause by incorrect apt configuration
[11:37] <kmaxtor> how fix to original configuration to update my apt
[11:37] <Dr_willis> i wonder if the sources.list is messed up.
[11:37] <kmaxtor> yes
[11:37] <Dr_willis> there was that sources.list generator web site. but i dont think its still around.
[11:37] <kmaxtor> please help me to fix my apt
[11:38] <Dr_willis> You may want to ask in #ubuntu - theres more people in there. someone may know a better fix.
[11:38] <Dr_willis> where you messing with your sources.list file>?
[11:39] <Dr_willis> http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/sourceslist-for-gutsy-gibbon/ has a sample sources.list (with extra stuff it seems)
[11:41] <francesco_> luca?
[11:41] <francesco_> ci sei?
[11:41] <francesco_> !it
[11:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:45] <finek> hi
[11:45] <finek> i tried to edit file by root, but i cant
[11:45] <finek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60989/
[11:45] <finek> i dunno why
[11:47] <llutz> finek: kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[11:47] <Dr_willis> or 'sudo nano /path/to/file'
[11:47] <kmaxtor> how to restore my apt
[11:47] <kmaxtor> i can't update my apt is cause error
[11:48] <kmaxtor> or locked
[11:48] <kmaxtor> please help me to resolve my proble
[11:48] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  if your sources.list file is bad.  copy that one from the web site i posted..  thats a VERY different problem then if apt has the data base locked.
[11:48] <lukketto> !it
[11:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:48] <Dr_willis> database is locked, try this in a !terminal    sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:49] <finek> llutz, ty it works now ;D
[12:00] <jono> hi
[12:00] <jono> anyone who runs the kubuntuforums site?
[12:07] <LimCore> how to see if I use compiz
[12:07] <Dr_willis> compiz --replace
[12:07] <Dr_willis> and see if the windows wiggle when ya move them
[12:07] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[12:07] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:08] <kmaxtor> any solution to restore my apt...
[12:08] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  yave you tried any of the suggestions so far?
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[12:08] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:08] <kmaxtor> nothing happened
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> did you remove the << and >> ?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  you need to be a LITTLE more verbose on what you are doing/tried and how you are doing all this.
[12:09] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  and asking in #ubuntu may get you some more help also
[12:09] <kmaxtor> hello need help
[12:10] <kmaxtor> my apt can't opened in order to update
[12:10] <kmaxtor> what i can do to fix my apt
[12:11] <Dr_willis> the phrase 'apt cant opend' isent excatly correct either. What program are you using? apt-get update is giving the errors? adept?
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> kmaxtor: did you remove the << and >>
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> ?
[12:12] <kmaxtor> i mess up the repositories
[12:13] <kmaxtor> the effect is error
[12:13] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  you mean to say you Manually altered the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[12:13] <kmaxtor> yes,
[12:13] <Dr_willis> did you go to that web site i posted earlier that had a example sources.list file?
[12:13] <kmaxtor> i accidentally add the wrong repositories
[12:14] <kmaxtor> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/dists/gutsy//etc/apt/sources.list/binary-i386/Packages.gz:' is not known on line 76 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  note the  is not known on line 76  -- edit the file.. remove line 76
[12:14] <_Angelus_> guys
[12:14] <kmaxtor> how
[12:14] <_Angelus_> is there a way to make a hard disc act as a cdrom?
[12:14] <_Angelus_> :/
[12:14] <Dr_willis> how did you edit it in the first place kmaxtor?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list      is one way
[12:15] <kmaxtor> the problem i can't opened adept manager
[12:15] <Dr_willis> ^w in nano means use Ctrl-w
[12:15] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  dont use adept.. edit it from the terminal
[12:15] <kmaxtor> what im using to edit
[12:16] <Dr_willis> use whatever editor you want.   nano is a ok editor.
[12:16] <kmaxtor> you mean in terminal konsole
[12:17] <kmaxtor> ctrl w
[12:17] <Dr_willis> konsole is a terminal.. yes..
[12:17] <Dr_willis> nano is a text editor you use from the terminal..
[12:17] <Dr_willis> ctrl-w is the command in nano to write a file after you do the changes to the file.. (note the help at the bootom of the window in nano)
[12:18] <kmaxtor> where to find the file in order to edit
[12:20] <Dr_willis> i pasted the location just earlier...
 sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list      is one way
[12:20] <Dr_willis> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <Dr_willis> edit the file... save with ctrl-w
[12:22] <kmaxtor> how to save
[12:22] <kmaxtor> ctrl w is save
[12:22] <Dr_willis> yes.... thats how you save....
[12:22] <Dr_willis> hit the ctrl key and w key at the same time....
[12:23] <Dr_willis> dang it.. wrong editor. :) im thinking another one
[12:23] <Dr_willis>   ^O WriteOut
[12:23] <Dr_willis> who did that.. silly nano guys
[12:23] <Dr_willis> use ctrl-o like the help says
[12:24] <flipstar> hey, nothing against nano :P
[12:24] <Dr_willis> flipstar,  other then the use silly combox. :)
[12:25] <Dr_willis> ^W Where Is     - 'where is' what the heck does that mean? Oh they mean Search! it seems.. :)
[12:25] <Dr_willis> guess ctrl s was taken. :)
[12:25] <kmaxtor> eureka i fix now
[12:25] <Dr_willis> ^O      (F3)            Write the current file to disk
[12:25] <kmaxtor> i fix the apt manager
[12:26] <Dr_willis> makes ya wonder why they dont show the F keys in the help
[12:26] <kmaxtor> i opened now apt manager
[12:27] <kmaxtor> i owed you a lot dr.willis
[12:27] <kmaxtor> how i can paid you...
[12:27] <kmaxtor> hehehehe
[12:27] <Dr_willis> spend the $$ on a linux book or 2. :)
[12:28] <Dr_willis> Using the Bash Shell by Orieally - is worth buying. :)
[12:34] <area51> hello me
[12:35] <area51> if any available live IP to broadcast my video?
[12:35] <area51> where i can find a free live IP?
[12:36] <area51> please help me to find a free live IP?
[12:36] <myrtille> good day :)
[12:37] <Dr_willis> area51,  thats making 100% no sence at all.
[12:37] <Dr_willis> but thats normal for this channel today so far. :)
[12:38] <myrtille> i'd like kopete to log and save every chat by default
[12:38] <myrtille> is this possible?
[12:38] <venik> Can anyone tell me how to get SOUND NOTIFICATIONS in Pidgin?
[12:39] <venik> I have for Sound Method: command artsplay% but it does nothing
[12:43] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[12:44] <Dr_willis> It works fine here.. I get a ba-beep every time someone chats in here
[12:44] <stevenroose> where do i need to be for a question?
[12:44] <stevenroose> i wanna know if it is possible to chech your boot log in a file
[12:45] <Dr_willis> stevenroose,   thers a lot of info stored by dmesg. but Not sure about all the initial  starting services messages...
[12:45] <venik> I got it.  I had to do a HORRIBLE thing-- read the manual!
[12:45] <Dr_willis> stevenroose,  #ubuntu will   perhaps have some better info.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> venik,  wow. it just worked fine here. :) no changes
[12:45] <venik> the correct command was aplay %, not the default: artsplay %
[12:45] <stevenroose> ok ty!
[12:46] <venik> I like Pidgin now.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> for irc..i think i will stick with xchat
[12:51] <wietse> could anyone tell me the exact location of the 'Trash' bin?
[12:53] <_Angelus_> guys
[12:53] <_Angelus_> anybody had problems burning the hardy alternate cd?
[12:53] <_Angelus_> ;/
[12:54] <_Angelus_> i have just throwed 5cds in the garbage
[12:54] <_Angelus_> i dunno if its hardy , or the writer :/
[12:56] <area51> how to enable my nvidia drivers
[12:59] <xik> I want to delete all "\" signs in a file, what is the command for sed there?
[13:01] <azuki> quicky: anyone know (before I reinstall it) how to add the display-icon manually ... OR an alternative way to change resolution/Herz
[13:01] <xik> ah, tr
[13:03] <azuki> i'll just re-install..
[13:03] <xik> VERY NICE :)  --->   cat file | tr -d \\ > new_file
[13:03] <xik> command line tools are great
[13:15] <azuki> deinstalling the kubuntu-libs..... (only 452mb of the installed 600+ tho:/)
[13:15] <azuki> then re-installing KDE and hoping the display-icon will be there
[13:16] <Jucato> (the package was "kde-guidance" probably)
[13:16] <azuki> can I leave it?
 quicky: anyone know (before I reinstall it) how to add the display-icon manually ... OR an alternative way to change resolution/Herz <--- kde-guidance (if I understand you correctly)
[13:17] <azuki> ah.. oh.. yea..  I allready de-installed it..
[13:18] <azuki> reinstalling tho ..
[13:18] <azuki> thnx!
[13:27] <azuki> do I need to reinstall compiz?
[13:27] <Jucato> only if you want to
[13:28] <azuki> it should work
[13:33] <azuki> ahhh.. yessss...
[13:35] <azuki> so if I get it right, the same compiz installed on Gnome should work (and migrate) to the KDE?.. or .... coz the settings thing is there, but it doesn't work
[13:45] <gr8linux> Hi
[13:46] <azuki> hi
[13:47] <azuki> kubuntu seems to vaguely screw up stuff.. no more mounting possible and Compiz don't work....
[13:47] <gr8linux> I install my laptop winmodem on Kubuntu
[13:47] <gr8linux> but I have problem with Konqueror
[13:47] <gr8linux> I can't browse any thing
[13:48] <gr8linux> Any idea
[13:49] <azuki> what does it say?... 404 ?
[13:49] <gr8linux> azuki:
[13:49] <gr8linux> An error occurred while loading http://yahoo.com:
[13:49] <gr8linux> Could not connect to host http://yahoo.com/.
[13:50] <gr8linux> anyone seen this before?
[13:51] <gr8linux> I have another PC with the same Kubuntu version 7.10 64bit but it's work fine
[13:52] <gr8linux> The kernel is ok because I could wget yahoo.com
[13:54] <gr8linux> Any IDEA?
[13:54] <azuki> I don't know sorry :(*
[13:54] <hydrogen> isn't compiz not working a good thing?
[13:55] <hydrogen> guaranteed to make you more productive
[13:55] <gr8linux> :))
[13:55] <azuki> hydrogen: that's true, I just like the visual-orgasmic...
[13:56] <gr8linux> I am going for firefox
[13:57] <azuki> I like the desktop changing
[13:58] <gr8linux> tanx guy
[14:04] <junior> hiiiiii
[14:04] <junior> alguém do brasilw
[14:04] <jussi01> !br | junior
[14:04] <ubotu> junior: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:05] <junior> #ubuntu-br
[14:05] <junior> eu nao sei usar isso.
[14:05] <jussi01> junior: type: /join #ubuntu-br
[14:06] <junior> thanks
[14:06] <jussi01> :)
[14:06] <junior> can't i speak in english:
[14:06] <jussi01> junior: yes you can
[14:07] <jussi01> junior: just no portuguese in here :)
[14:07] <junior> humm
[14:07] <junior> ok
[14:07] <jussi01> junior: so do you have a question we can help with?
[14:07] <junior> no
[14:08] <junior> hehhee i know to use linux...
[14:08] <junior> i don't know use Irc
[14:08] <junior> =P
[14:08] <jussi01> junior: This is the Kubuntu support channel. If you are just wishing to chat, please use #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:09] <junior> ok..
[14:09] <junior> are u admin>
[14:10] <neville_> For once, everything is up to date
[14:10] <neville_> It's a good feeling :P
[14:10] <jussi01> :)
[14:10] <junior> bye...
[14:11] <junior> =)
[14:13] <azuki> yay!... kDE is a bit faster then Gnome
[14:13] <azuki> rock -on!
[14:14] <TeslaTony> I've heard that KDE is faster, but a little less stable. Any truth to that?
[14:14] <TeslaTony> Or does it depend on the application?
[14:14] <Jucato> application, setup, situation, version, etc...
[14:15] <muesli> TeslaTony: in general neither gnome nor kde feel really unstable
[14:15] <muesli> TeslaTony: i guess it's just down to a matter of personal taste
[14:16] <azuki> I thought that gnome was a little unstable too.. only when running compiz tho
[14:16] <azuki> maybe it's compiz :)
[14:16] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: A lot of work has gone into cleaning up KDE recently.
[14:17] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: It has a big advantage in it's use of shared code and functions.
[14:17] <azuki> yet with KDE there is a whole lot more optionality built-in
[14:18] <jhutchins_wk> compiz is definitely unstable
[14:19] <TeslaTony> When I first installed Linux on here I tested both Kubuntu and Ubuntu. I found Kubuntu really unstable and switched to ubuntu, but I've since installed kubuntu-desktop so I can switch between the two
[14:19] <TeslaTony> I'm not seeing the same instabilities any more
[14:20] <Jucato> it's kinda unfair to conclude that KDE is unstable based on the experience in one distro though
[14:20] <TeslaTony> I'd heard the instability issue from someone else, too
[14:21] <azuki> "
[14:21] <azuki> (02:51:07 PM) gr8linux: I have another PC with the same Kubuntu version 7.10 64"
[14:21] <azuki> woeps
[14:22] <azuki> "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[14:25] <azuki> any sollutions for mounting?
[14:26] <jussio1> azuki: I havent time to answer it now, but I suggest you google that one, Its quite a common error
[14:26] <Expecto> I have a favor to ask.  Could someone download the latest ndiswrapper tar from sourceforge and email it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS> I'm behind a firewall that won't allow me to access sourceforge.
[14:26] <flipstar> azuki: just add add uid=1000,gid=1000 to the mount options
[14:27] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: What do you mean by instability?
[14:29] <TeslaTony> jhutchins_wk: I was getting a lot of system and program crashes
[14:29] <azuki> flipstar: where can I do that?.. I don't use commandline moutns..
[14:29] <flipstar> in fstab
[14:31] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: Interesting.  I've been running KDE since... 2003?  Haven't had that kind of trouble.  Been running kubuntu since drake or eft.
[14:31] <azuki> fstab?
[14:31] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: Only thing I've had trouble with was detecting hardware in feisty.
[14:32] <jussi01> azuki: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[14:32] <jussi01> do that in terminal
[14:33] <azuki> where should I add it?
[14:33] <TeslaTony> jhutchins_wk: Like I said, I'm not having the same issues I was having, although one friend pointed out that gutsy had a lot of issues when it was first released, and kubuntu may have just taken the brunt of it on my system, moreso than Gnome was
[14:34] <flipstar> Jussi maybe you should add an factiod then :)
[14:34] <azuki> in the fstab.. does the location matter?
[14:34] <jussi01> azuki: yes, at the end of the line for mounting that drove
[14:34] <jussi01> drive*
[14:35] <azuki> ah crap.. so how do I decide... /dev/hd0 (can I make it /dev/bla or does it matter?
[14:36] <flipstar>  /dev/blah should be your drive that you want to mount..find out by typing "sudo fstab -l" in a terminal
[14:36] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: Well, if you were running compiz, that was the problem.
[14:37] <TeslaTony> Funny thing, that...I wasn't
[14:37] <TeslaTony> Fresh install
[14:38] <TeslaTony> Part of the problem may have been I was using a USB wifi card and a motherboard that doesn't have linux support
[14:38] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: The system will try to mount whichever device you specify.  If you want a particular partition to mount, you have to specify that partition.  _where_ it mounts is something you can decide at will, but it must be an existing directory in the filesystem tree.
[14:38] <azuki> in the /dev dir right?
[14:39] <flipstar> in /dev are the devices - right
[14:40] <fat-head> does anyone know of any netscape <IP_ADDRESS> .deb ???
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: If you mount a partition to a location that has data, like somewhere in /dev, you will see the mounted partition instead of that data.
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Replacing directories in /dev with arbitrary mounts would be a bad idea.
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Do you understand what the /dev tree is?
[14:40] <flipstar> fat-head: getdeb.net maybe
[14:40] <fat-head> k
[14:40] <azuki> not really..
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Do you know why /mount and /media exist and what's in them?
[14:41] <Eruaran> hello
[14:41] <Eruaran> Is anyone here using anon-proxy ?
[14:41] <azuki> jhutchins_wk: I thought that media was all existing hardware, and mounting includes them into the active system
[14:41] <flipstar> Eruaran: im using tor
[14:42] <Eruaran> flipstar: hows that working ?
[14:42] <fat-head> nope getdeb.net doesnt have a .deb for NETscape
[14:42] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: No, media is a place where the system can automatically mount attached devices.
[14:42] <fat-head> argh !
[14:42] <flipstar> !tor > Eruaran
[14:42] <Eruaran> thx
[14:42] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: /dev is a "pseudo" filesystem, not a real filesystem, it contains "nodes" which represent the hardware on the system.
[14:42] <azuki> yea..
[14:42] <ipluss> hi guys, i want know how to build kernel source tree so i can study write driver ?
[14:43] <azuki> that's what I figured..
[14:44] <azuki> in fstab : /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec 0       0
[14:44] <ipluss> help me
[14:44] <ipluss> thank you]
[14:44] <azuki> so it takes from the filesystem (/dev) to mount in the media (/media)
[14:44] <flipstar> !kernel > ipluss
[14:45] <azuki> but how do I get to know which existing unmounted drive is which in the /dev
[14:45] <flipstar> azuki: by "sudo fstab -l" in terminal or systemsetting>advanced>drives
[14:46] <flipstar> err "sudo fdisk -l" soory
[14:46] <azuki> right.. ;) it didn't work
[14:47] <flipstar> this shows you every harddisc on your computer
[14:47] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/
[14:47] <flipstar> you can see the mounted by typing mount
[14:47] <flipstar> (in a terminal)
[14:48] <azuki> ok I am figuring out what to type in the fstab now..
[14:49] <jhutchins_wk> /mnt is the traditional mount point for temporary devices that are mounted manually.
[14:49] <azuki>  and how do I activate it :?... just saving?
[14:49] <azuki> and accessing?
[14:49] <azuki> one last the thing: the mountPOINT could be anything... I devide?
[14:49] <azuki> decide?
[14:49] <flipstar> yes..but it must exists
[14:50] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Entries in fstab allow you to mount something by just identifying it, you don't need the full format with filesystem type, mount point, and options.  Once it's in fstab, you can just use mount /dev/hda1 or mount /media/music (use either the device or the mount point).
[14:50] <ipluss> flipstar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[14:50] <ipluss> flipstar: have you write some driver under 2.6.X kernel
[14:51] <ipluss> flipstar: can you teach me how to start
[14:51] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: If you included the "auto" option, then the device will mount at boot time or if you do sudo mount -a.
[14:51] <flipstar> this site doesnt help ?
[14:51] <azuki> this is hard for me
[14:51] <flipstar> ipluss: i never compiled my own kernel since im happy with the default
[14:52] <lovre> can i somehow make myself a superuser in current terminal session?
[14:52] <lovre> i tried su, it doesnt accept my password.,
[14:52] <azuki> when I fdisk -l ot... I still don't find the link... it gives me all /dev's locations... but not the associated media location... so the mountpoint would be ?
[14:53] <flipstar> lovre: with sudo -s or sudo -i
[14:53] <azuki> oh wait..
[14:53] <azuki> YEA.. it's still kinda random.. (3 disks to mount) ..
[14:54] <michael_> lovre - you mean like sudo -i
[14:54] <lovre> flipstar: ill try it, than
[14:54] <lovre> thanx
[14:54] <flipstar> azuki: since the drive is already monted you just have to find the entry in the fstab
[14:54] <screamfd> Hello together I'm new in the linux using
[14:54] <azuki> I added it as BLA mountpoint..
[14:54] <azuki> it worked
[14:55] <azuki> oh ... it doesnt..
[14:55] <azuki> in one drive it started "loading".. but no progress.. others still the same prob..
[14:56] <azuki> /dev/sda3       /media/bla3	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec 0       0
[14:56] <azuki> did it like that
[14:56] <flipstar> you need a space between that
[14:56] <azuki> between whaT?.
[14:57] <flipstar> like  /dev/sda3       /media/bla3 autorw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       0
[14:57] <screamfd> who is a ubuntu 7.10 user?
[14:57] <flipstar> and /media/bla3 have to exists
[14:57] <jussi01> screamfd: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[14:57] <screamfd> ubuntu
[14:58] <jussi01> screamfd: ask in #ubuntu
[14:58] <screamfd> thx
[14:58] <azuki> what do you mean by /media/bla has to exist.. the drive isn't there yet... it's shows up there AFTER the mount right?
[14:59] <SlimeyPete> under Linux, you mount drives into directories.
[14:59] <flipstar> no..you have to create a dir called bla3 in /media.. "sudo mkdir /media/bla3"
[14:59] <jussi01> azuki: the dir has to exist before you can mount the drive
[14:59] <cpk1> azuki: the /dev/ is the actual hard drive. to get it so you can actually use the data there you need to connect a directory with the hard drive
[15:00] <cpk1> does that make it easier to understand?
[15:01] <azuki> it says loading directory
[15:02] <azuki> so everytime I access the drive and mount stuff the FSTAB will be re-accessed?.. or is it a boot?
[15:03] <flipstar> entrys in fstab will be mounted at boot
[15:03] <azuki> ah.. so I have to restart
[15:03] <flipstar> no..not nessesary
[15:05] <azuki> hoe not to?
[15:05] <jussi01> azuki: sudo mount -a
[15:05] <flipstar> just drop a sudo mount -a in terminal
[15:06] <azuki> just that?
[15:06] <jussi01> yep
[15:06] <azuki> didn't change anythin
[15:07] <azuki> I got one drive to work tho.. the old windows drive.. the one drive I didn't need :)
[15:07] <jussi01> hehe
[15:08] <azuki> I still get the uid error..
[15:08] <flipstar> did you added the uid=1000,gid=1000 thing ?
[15:08] <azuki> yes
[15:09] <azuki> now I gots: /dev/sda1       /media/drive1	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=10000	0       0
[15:09] <azuki> /dev/sda2       /media/drive2	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=10000	0       0
[15:09] <azuki> /dev/sda3       /media/drive3	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=10000	0       0
[15:09] <jussi01> azuki: please use pastebin next time :)
[15:09] <flipstar> a zero too much
[15:09] <jussi01> !paste > azuki
[15:11] <azuki> nope.. still..
[15:11] <azuki> pastebin??
[15:11] <flipstar> wait a sec
[15:12] <azuki> now it's like /dev/sda1       /media/drive1	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=10000       0
[15:12] <flipstar> azuki: make it like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61016/
[15:13] <flipstar> see the spaces there & the amount of zeros
[15:15] <azuki> it says unknown filetype 'gid=1000'
[15:15] <azuki> when I do the mount -a
[15:15] <azuki> ah
[15:15] <azuki> one 0
[15:15] <azuki> should be 10000
[15:15] <azuki> right?
[15:16] <azuki> hmm
[15:16] <flipstar> which filesystem type are the drives ?
[15:17] <e3rd> Witam ;]
[15:17] <azuki> fat32 and ext2
[15:18] <algyz> !pl | e3rd
[15:18] <ubotu> e3rd: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[15:18] <algyz> !pl
[15:18] <flipstar> azuki: drive 1 fat the rest ext2 ?
[15:18] <algyz> nothing :|
[15:19] <azuki> sda1 = fat32LBA... sda2 linux (suppose that's ext2) and sd3 is extended
[15:19] <azuki> I am seeing a sdb1 ntfs also.. dunno what that is
[15:20] <azuki> and another fat32 (sdc1)
[15:21] <azuki> holy cow..
[15:21] <azuki> I got it ALL wrong
[15:21] <azuki> should mount somethign else :)
[15:21] <algyz> ubotu don't sleep darling ;)
[15:22] <flipstar> azuki: then use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61019/ and create the needed dirs
[15:23] <azuki> I now get permission denied
[15:25] <azuki> it says loading directory.. I thinks it's ok.. but it does say warning no final newline
[15:26] <flipstar> then make one..
[15:26] <azuki> right.. that workd ;)
[15:27] <azuki> that's it for now :).. really alot of thanks for the lesson
[15:28] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Did you have a look at that URL I sent you?
[15:28] <azuki> which one
[15:29] <azuki> the big html /sag?
[15:33] <azuki> blergh.. now it says mountpoint fat32 doesn't exist :/
[15:34] <flipstar> then make one..
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> what're you typing, exactly?
[15:34] <dorkface> Hi all.  I'm trying to produce ascii characters for a project, but the way I am familiar with to make the characters, pressing alt+ 3 numbers, doesn't seem to work.  Any suggestions?
[15:35] <azuki> /dev/sdc1 fat32 /media/sdc1 autorw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000 0      0
[15:36] <SlimeyPete> -t fat32
[15:37] <SlimeyPete> oh wait
[15:37] <SlimeyPete> sorry
[15:37] <SlimeyPete> ignore me ;)
[15:37] <SlimeyPete> hmm
[15:38] <SlimeyPete> you have /media/sdc1 and fat32 round the wrong way
[15:38] <SlimeyPete> swap them
[15:38] <SlimeyPete> it's <device> <mountpoint> <fstype> <options> 0 0
[15:38] <flipstar> oops
[15:39] <darx> hi.. firefox is not honoring the font settings I made in system settings.. what can I do?
[15:39] <azuki> loading dirs again.. thnx :)
[15:40] <darx> I set the font size to 9 pt but firefox still displays the UI fonts as 12 pt. whats up with that? it used to work under gnome.. can some one confirm?
[15:40] <darx> i'm on hardy kubuntu
[15:42] <azuki> I suppose this loading dirs is a onetime thing.. I hope..
[15:42] <azuki> takes a long time
[15:42] <vijay> does kde4 hardy beta include amarok??? wht is the default player?
[15:42] <darx> vijay: yup
[15:43] <darx> it is the default as well
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> darx: Hard support in #ubuntu+1
[15:44] <vijay> i just installed kde4 desktop on my gnome ubuntu b y "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop" ; but i has a music player called juk instead of amarok
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> darx: When you say the UI fonts, Presume the ones for the menue and such?
[15:44] <Odd-rationale> vijay: JuK was in the kubuntu-kde4 livecd. No amarok
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> vijay: Not everything has been ported to work with kde4.
[15:46] <vijay> ohhh k , so amarok is not yet ported to qt4/kde4  ?
[15:46] <donsdw> How do I add one file to another?  Not "cat f1 f2 > f3".  I do not want to have to rename f3 to f2.
[15:46] <Odd-rationale> vijay: That will come with amarok 2
[15:48] <vijay> @Odd-rationale           any idea when itis gonna come out
[15:49] <Odd-rationale> vijay: As far as i know, there is no release date. So it will be "when their done."
[15:50] <flipstar> donsdw: guess you can do this with tee
[15:50] <vijay> ohhhh k ; thanx alot for the info
[15:54] <donsdw> Thanks Flipstar.  I found out cat file1 >> file2 works.
[16:01] <darx> jutchins_wk: yup for the menus and such.. not the document.
[16:01] <darx> the document fonts can be adjusted from within firefox.
[16:04] <yao_ziyuan> i call for all kubuntu users to protest kubuntu 8.04 beta's ugly wallpaper and style/window decoration!
[16:05] <jhutchins_wk> darx: I think you set that with the window manager.
[16:05] <flipstar> yao_ziyuan: where can i sign ? :)
[16:06] <romunov_> what app do you guys use to work with videos?
[16:06] <yao_ziyuan> flipstar: ... i don't have one
[16:06] <romunov_> i've just recorded a cricket and i need to reduce the quality
[16:06] <duke__> hello world
[16:07] <jussi01> hey duke__
[16:07] <flipstar> romunov_: mencoder is the ultimative video en/decoder
[16:08] <cpk1> mencoder will also drown you in man pages =\
[16:08] <duke__> i would like to have some advice about which distro would be the best to start with linux, I want to learn how it works, so far I have tried ubuntu and kubuntu for a couple of days
[16:08] <cpk1> duke__: if you want to learn how linux works then go with something that does very little for you =)
[16:09] <cpk1> it will be a rough couple days but you come out better for it
[16:09] <jussi01> duke__: its a matter of trying them all, of course we beleive Kubuntu is the best, but we are biased
[16:09] <jussi01> duke__: perhaps ask in ##linux ?
[16:10] <duke__> kubuntu is kinda cute but i had some problems with it, i couldn<t oconfigure my printer, and ubuntu would not recognize my screen and everytime i boot it was in 640x480...
[16:10] <cpk1> you probably needed to install your video drivers
[16:11] <cpk1> and printers can be hit and miss
[16:11] <duke__> i tried but it was not working
[16:12] <duke__> anyway i<m thinking about trying fedora, what do you think ?
[16:12] <matt1728> fedora is awesome
[16:13] <duke__> it uses gnome right ?
[16:13] <matt1728> but you have to install repos for everything or do source
[16:13] <matt1728> yepp
[16:13] <cpk1> no idea, never used it.  But like I said if you really want to learn a lot and can afford to basically be unable to use your computer go with a less user friendly distro, like slackware =P
[16:13] <matt1728> i used fedora for a while
[16:14] <flipstar> cpk1: just google for linux distri chooser
[16:14] <alexbobp> In the network manager, I set eth4 (my wired network connection) from unmanaged to dhcp.  Since then, every 15 minutes or so my dns capabilities stop working, and I can fix it temporarily by either restarting the network connection (sudo ifconfig eth4 down, up) or by going into the network settings and removing the dns server.
[16:14] <duke__> well i can afford that because i built a computer just for that, i have another vista computer
[16:14] <alexbobp> Does anybody know of a solution to this?
[16:14] <azuki> it's still saying "loading dir"
[16:15] <cpk1> duke__: well then if it wont hurt your productivity I say why not go for it that way after the frustration of nothing working and having to fight through it you should be very comfortable with cli and linux in general
[16:15] <_Shade_> hi there
[16:16] <_Angelus_> GUYS
[16:16] <_Angelus_> IM DESPARED
[16:16] <_Angelus_> im gonna turn into an emo if no one helps me :/
[16:16] <_Angelus_> lol
[16:16] <duke__> yes thats a good idea cpk1
[16:17] <cpk1> duke__: and without a knowledgeable linux friend close at hand it has the possibility of being very difficult
[16:17] <_Angelus_> i wasted 5cds to try copying kubuntu beta
[16:18] <_Angelus_> its always failing
[16:18] <_Angelus_> and i really want it
[16:18] <_Angelus_> cause installing it from windows xp worked
[16:18] <duke__> I have a friend who is pretty good with linux
[16:18] <duke__> i<m looking at screenshots of slackware, it looks like kubuntu
[16:19] <cpk1> _Angelus_: 1. why not wait until next month when 8.04 is released? and 2. the burn process fails?
[16:19] <flipstar> _Angelus_: you burning with k3b? so whats the error message ?
[16:19] <cpk1> duke__: probably because it uses kde
[16:19] <_Angelus_> i tried k3b , nero linux, and tried burning it from XP
[16:19] <duke__> ok
[16:19] <_Angelus_> everything is failing :s
[16:19] <_Angelus_> i tried both desktop, and alternate
[16:19] <flipstar> _Angelus_: did you checked the md5 ?
[16:19] <_Angelus_> yeah
[16:19] <_Angelus_> md5sum is good
[16:20] <flipstar> does your cd burner work ?
[16:20] <_Angelus_> yeah
[16:20] <_Angelus_> i burn many ps2 games and work
[16:20] <duke__> and what is the difference between the live cd version (700mb) and the non live version (4 gb)
[16:20] <_Angelus_> i tought it was because i was using scretchless cds. but when i changed it didnt work
[16:20] <_Angelus_> duke__:  there are 3 versions , live cd , alternate cd , and dvd version which has both inside
[16:20] <_Shade_> how do i display images as message content in kmail?
[16:21] <cpk1> _Angelus_: you try reducing the burn speed?
[16:22] <_Angelus_> nope
[16:22] <_Angelus_> i didnt try that :/
[16:22] <duke__> so if i understand , the live cd lets you try it before installing it by running it from the cd and the alternate version does not , is that it ?
[16:22] <_Angelus_> no duke__
[16:22] <flipstar> _Angelus_: why dont you using cd+rw's ?
[16:22] <_Angelus_> the alternate has expert install and things like that
[16:22] <_Angelus_> because i dont afford one flipstar LOL
[16:22] <cpk1> flipstar: cd rw typically dont work as boot cds anyways
[16:23] <flipstar> here they do
[16:23] <_Angelus_> cpk1: reducing the speed could work?
[16:23] <flipstar> _Angelus_: whats the error message while burning ?
[16:23] <_Angelus_> flipstar:  i forgot :s
[16:23] <artfullylost> Why do .iso files have to take so long to download.... :'(
[16:23] <cpk1> _Angelus_: its possible, you are being very vague about the failure though
[16:23] <cpk1> _Angelus_: try burning at 2x
[16:23] <_Angelus_> well
[16:24] <_Angelus_> i burned it at 48x
[16:27] <_Angelus_> one problem :/
[16:27] <_Angelus_> i deleted the iso's
[16:27] <_Angelus_> cause i got angry :/
[16:27] <flipstar> !installation | _Angelus_
[16:28] <ubotu> _Angelus_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:28] <flipstar> you dont need a cd nessessary
[16:28] <_Angelus_> yeah but i deleted the godamn iso's
[16:28] <_Angelus_> cause i was angry :/
[16:28] <_Angelus_> lol
[16:29] <algyz> _Angelus_:  no more in trash?
[16:29] <_Angelus_> yeah
[16:29] <_Angelus_> i emptied trash
[16:30] <duke__> restore ^
[16:30] <_Angelus_> cause i didnt want to continue waste cds :/
[16:30] <duke__> ?
[16:30] <_Angelus_> restore? :o
[16:30] <flipstar> !undelete
[16:30] <ubotu> Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Remember that it's tricky to recover deleted files from your journalled !filesystem, and you should keep !backups of important data.
[16:30] <cpk1> psh who uses the trash can anyways?
[16:30] <duke__> !dontgetangry
[16:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dontgetangry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:30] <cpk1> I only use shift delete =)
[16:31] <cpk1> isnt recovering deleted data near impossible?
[16:31] <flipstar> nope
[16:31] <cpk1> you have to figure out the correct node it was on and what not right?
[16:31] <flipstar> its just very, very, very very very time expansive
[16:32] <flipstar> you can download it 20x times with a 56k in this time i guess
[16:35] <_Angelus_> depends on what filesystem cpk1
[16:35] <artfullylost> So.... honestly, what would be a better install for a noob? Kubuntu, or ubuntu?
[16:35] <_Angelus_> on reiserfs , its just "reiserfstune --rebuild-tree -S /dev/xxx"
[16:36] <_Angelus_> artfullylost:  KuBunTu xD
[16:36] <flipstar> yes would not only rebuild the iso ..
[16:36] <Odd-rationale> artfullylost: a noob would not know the difference
[16:36] <artfullylost> Well, KDE vs. Gnome, primarily.
[16:37] <artfullylost> But which environment is friendlier to someone who has next to no linux knowledge?
[16:37] <_Angelus_> KDE
[16:37] <Karti> Hi all, any advice on what application to use for organising your photos etc Many thanks
[16:37] <flipstar> the guys in the gnome channel would probably say GNOME ..
[16:37] <flipstar> your decision
[16:37] <Odd-rationale> Karti: digikam?
[16:37] <duke__> i<m a noob and i just tried both and i think that Kubuntu looks friendlier and is a little easier to use
[16:38] <_Angelus_> KDE resembles more windows
[16:38] <emonkey> artfullylost, what's better strawberry or banane?
[16:38] <_Angelus_> you just have a K instead of the start button
[16:38] <artfullylost> Bananas by far.
[16:38] <_Angelus_> which looks like the vista button
[16:38] <flipstar> Strawberry's are much sweeter :)
[16:38] <duke__> yes exactly angelus, thats what i think too
[16:38] <artfullylost> duke__ : I've been using Gnome for a while, but my buddy wants a look at the easier of the two, and I figure I might as well look as well. :)
[16:38] <emonkey> artfullylost, but I loke strawberry more .. so you see it's a question of taste ... same thing with KDE and Gnome
[16:38] <emonkey> *like
[16:39] <Karti> Odd-rationale: Many thanks.....looks quite good
[16:39] <Odd-rationale> But the nice about kde is it does not *have* to look like windows...
[16:39] <artfullylost> Well, Windows and Linux is a version of taste. It all is, but can someone present the valid pros and cons?
[16:39] <duke__> kubuntu is prettier and feels more like windows than ubuntu
[16:40] <_Angelus_> of course
[16:40] <artfullylost> I never liked earth tones.
[16:40] <_Angelus_> KDE is the sexiest desktop
[16:40] <duke__> imo
[16:40] <Pici> !best
[16:40] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[16:41] <crashhandler> any chinese here..i want to ask about input method using skim..
[16:42] <jussi01> !cn | crashhandler
[16:42] <ubotu> crashhandler: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[16:42] <romunov_> i was always wondering how the chinese/japanese manage to type in their native language
[16:42] <romunov_> what combination of keys they use to code all the signs
[16:43] <crashhandler> sorry i cant read or write chinese as them...i am a new learner who starts learn chinese about 2 weeks..lol
[16:43] <crashhandler> ooo
[16:44] <crashhandler> romunov_ , basically you just type the pronounciation and the chinese character will automatically there
[16:48] <_Angelus_> yeyyyyyy
[16:48] <_Angelus_> i still have the alternate iso on my winxp partition!
[16:48] <_Angelus_> guys
[16:49] <_Angelus_> would there be anything to make my 6GB hard drive act as a cdrom to install hardy?!
[16:49] <duke__> make a image drive
[16:50] <ubuntu> hi, flipstar..it's me again and ths time i tried to install kde4-core but oops i did it again..and xserver didn't start :D
[16:50] <_Angelus_> duke__:  how do i do that?
[16:50] <duke__> youre in windows right ^
[16:50] <_Angelus_> no duke__ :/
[16:50] <ubuntu> by the way i'm ahmos
[16:51] <matt1728> is there anyway to make the kmenu transparent ?
[16:51] <duke__> oh .... i know how to do that in windows but not in linux
[16:52] <matt1728> hmm
[16:52] <matt1728> i dont think thatll help though
[16:52] <matt1728> lol
[16:53] <flipstar> ubuntu/ahmos whats the error message when starting X ?
[16:53] <duke__> but usually burning software have an option to mount an image drive or something like that and it acts as a cd and you can read an iso as if it was a regular cd
[16:53] <ubuntu> nothing just a blinking cursor
[16:55] <yago> does anyone install kubuntu 8. by cd-rom?
[16:57] <jorge_> yes
[16:58] <ubuntu> any ideas flipstar
[16:58] <jorge_> could somebody show me how to install a driver(wireless)
[16:59] <flipstar> ubuntu maybe an driver issue..you could try to switch to an tty and then startx
[16:59] <alexbobp> jorge_: first of all, are you needing to use ndiswrapper?
[16:59] <jorge_> ok
[16:59] <ubuntu> i tried from recovery mode but nothing
[16:59] <jorge_> it came with the distro or i have to download it
[17:00] <flipstar> ubuntu hm you did nothing than installing kde4-core ?
[17:00] <flipstar> not unintalling anything or so ?
[17:01] <ubuntu> no only kde4-core and it was about 100 MB
[17:01] <jorge_> alexbob, the ndiswrapper, came with the distro or i have to download it