[13:39] <willbradley> what happens when you press alt, only a defocusing of that field or does an Ubuntu menu come up
[13:39] <alkamid> willbradley, only defocusing
[13:39] <alkamid> it's right alt
[13:40] <willbradley> only on google+?
[13:40] <alkamid> willbradley, apparently yes
[13:43] <willbradley> do you hold down the alt button or press it?
[13:43] <alkamid> just press
[13:44] <willbradley> for me on 13.04 that opens up the application-specific alt menu which is a feature in ubuntu 13+
[13:45] <willbradley> however even when i just hold alt, it defocuses (and opens the chrome menu)
[13:45] <willbradley> so it may be a chrome linux issue
[13:45] <willbradley> or polish keyboard issue
[13:46] <alkamid> willbradley, I tested it on firefox as well
[13:48] <willbradley> broken on ubuntu firefox?
[13:48] <alkamid> willbradley, yes
[13:48] <willbradley> what focuses?
[13:49] <willbradley> i.e. what happens if you press space/left/right/tab/etc
[13:51] <alkamid> willbradley, it is the same as on chrome
[13:51] <alkamid> so only right alt defocuses
[13:51] <alkamid> the rest works as expected: left alt opens "type your command" on the top of the screen
[13:52] <alkamid> ctrls do nothing
[13:52] <alkamid> etc.
[13:52] <alkamid> (lunch, brb)
[13:53] <willbradley> so if you press right alt and then press space, what happens?
[14:06] <hkr> Hi ?
[14:07] <hkr> Is xubuntu supported in this channel ?
[14:07] <kostkon> hkr, yes
[14:07] <hkr> Ok. Thanks :)
[14:08] <Sonderblade> what package is needed to get totem to play asf streams?
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> Sonderblade  try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:08] <cfhowlett> Sonderblade, ^^^^
[14:09] <hkr> Or maybe gst-plugins-ugly
[14:09] <natas_> Hello everyone, I am having a real problem with my debconf, I cannot install any applications that use it, which won't let me reinstall it to fix it, and for some reason I can't even delete it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6611532/
[14:09] <Sonderblade> MonkeyDust: got that package but it doesnt make a difference
[14:10] <hkr> Sonderblade, Try gst-plugins-ugly.
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Sonderblade  then try hkr 's tip
[14:10] <Sonderblade> hkr: have that one too
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Sonderblade  what file or site is giving issues?
[14:11] <hkr> Make sure you have GStreamer Base Plug-ins too.
[14:12] <natas_> is there a way to recover an ubuntu live usb's debconf?
[14:16] <alkamid> willbradley, it goes fullscreen
[14:16] <[[thufir]]> how do I make this execute as a script?  http://pastebin.com/DfNYKpCu  it works when I just type the command in, but I want to make it executable.  I did chmod +x on the file.
[14:16] <alkamid> with alt+space
[14:17] <llutz> [[thufir]]: use full path to "minerd" not ./
[14:17] <[[thufir]]> llutz: thought something like that. thx
[14:19] <willbradley> alkamid: not alt+space but alt, space
[14:23] <[[thufir]]> ok, I put a new file cron.d directory to execute that script.  do I need to prompt cron?  don't want to reboot just to test it.
[14:24] <llutz> [[thufir]]: no action needed, cron will use the file next run
[14:24] <harikrishnan> #freenode
[14:25] <cuddylier> Is it possible to kill all processes started with a certain command?
[14:25] <[[thufir]]>  1	*/10 * * * * /home/thufir/cpuminer/webxass   should run every ten minute, right?
[14:26] <llutz> [[thufir]]: yes
[14:26] <llutz> cuddylier: yes, read "man pkill"
[14:26] <yeats> cuddylier: often (but not always), killing the parent process kills the child process
[14:27] <cuddylier> yeats Thing is, I don't want to kill all of the processes of this program
[14:27] <cuddylier> Only the processes started with a certain command
[14:28] <llutz> cuddylier: where pkill -f  might be useful
[14:29] <cuddylier> So pkill -f [command used]?
[14:30] <cuddylier> Doesn't seem to work, says invalid option
[14:30] <cuddylier> hmm
[14:31] <yeats> cuddylier: what are you literally typing? can you copy/paste?
[14:31] <alkamid> willbradley, alt, space results in fullscreen
[14:32] <alkamid> alt simply defocuses from the text field
[14:32] <cuddylier> yeats: pkill -f redir --laddr=<IP_ADDRESS> --lport=25565 --caddr=<IP_ADDRESS> --cport=25565
[14:32] <alkamid> and space is a shortcut for fullscreen
[14:32] <llutz> cuddylier: you may want to use "-f  --   "your-command -with -some -"
[14:32] <mcnesium> in the default applications of that ubuntu 13.10 i have here there is no browser to select. firefox and chromium are installed on the system. when i click links in chat programs gedit opens with the source code. how can i get firefox in that default apps select box?
[14:32] <cuddylier> WHat do you exactly mean by that llutz
[14:33] <llutz>  pkill -f -- "redir rest of cour yommand"
[14:33] <hkr> Click browse and navigate to "/usr/bin/"
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> mcnesium  open the brower and "set as default" in its settings
[14:33] <llutz> your*
[14:34] <cuddylier> llutz: Nope, same problem
[14:34] <llutz> cuddylier: ^^ see above
[14:34] <hkr> How do I see a list of commands I can use ?
[14:34] <cuddylier> alert &b&lAll servers will go offline &4&lNOW&b for up to 5 minutes for Hub system optimisation changes.
[14:34] <cuddylier> pkill -f -- redir --laddr=<IP_ADDRESS> --lport=25565 --caddr=<IP_ADDRESS> --cport=25565
[14:34] <cuddylier> oops
[14:34] <mcnesium> MonkeyDust: well, that was easy. thank you :)
[14:34] <cuddylier> pkill -f -- redir --laddr=<IP_ADDRESS> --lport=25565 --caddr=<IP_ADDRESS> --cport=25565
[14:34] <cuddylier> That's what I typed
[14:35] <m00xdem00x> Can someone recommend me a channel which discusses Networking and Network Protocols?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> m00xdem00x  ##networking (double #)
[14:36] <[[thufir]]> I put this:   1	1	1 * * * * /home/thufir/cpuminer/webxass   into a file in cron.d/ but I know it's not running the webxass script, because the webxass script pegs the cpu.  is that cron file correct?  I want it to run every minute (well, for right now)
[14:36] <Ilmen> Hello
[14:36] <m00xdem00x> MonkeyDust: Thanks :)
[14:36] <Pacy> Hello
[14:36] <llutz> [[thufir]]: what is the cron-filename?
[14:36] <bekks> [[thufir]]: pastebin the crontab please
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Ilmen, greetings
[14:38] <llutz> [[thufir]]: files in cron.d must not have extensions. or better: they must not contain a "." (dot)
[14:40] <Ilmen> I was having a try to the KDE plasma desktop (I only installed the core package) and it works fine; however afterward I had the bad idea to install the package kubuntu-default-settings and now my boot entry has been renamed to "kubuntu" and the log-in screen changed to a blue one with personnal avatar etc. I thought it changed the session manager to kdm, but running "dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" didn
[14:40] <Ilmen> didn't work
[14:40] <[[thufir]]> bekks: one sec
[14:41] <bencc2> can I install debian package as is on ubuntu?
[14:41] <Ilmen> I uninstalled the aforementioned package (kubuntu-default-settings) but the blue logon screen is still present
[14:41] <bencc2> freesiwtch has a script to build a package for debian https://github.com/FreeSWITCH/FreeSWITCH/blob/master/scripts/ci/debsrcbuilder.sh
[14:41] <bencc2> I wonder if it should work for ubuntu too
[14:42] <hkr> I don't think so bencc2
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> bencc2  my advice: first try it with a live usb or dvd, see if it works
[14:42] <hkr> I'm not expert. Don't take my word for it. Try a live CD like Monkey said
[14:42] <Ilmen> Any idea how I can restore the normal Ubuntu logon sceen?
[14:42] <bencc2> MonkeyDust: trying in vbox
[14:43] <bekks> bencc2: vboxcant boot from an usb device.
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> Ilmen  try this, I used it just yesterday, it worked      sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[14:43] <[[thufir]]> this is my cron file stuff:    http://pastebin.com/jYbYnEiS    when I run the script which cron.d/doge runs, it pegs the cpu.  so, why isn't cron running the script?
[14:43] <llutz> vbox can boot from iso
[14:44] <Ilmen> MonkeyDust: I'll try this, thanks :)
[14:44] <unicornjedi> hello, does anyone here use joomla?
[14:44] <llutz> [[thufir]]: the line-start of your doge-file is malformed
[14:44] <trijntje> !anyone
[14:44] <[[thufir]]> bekks: http://pastebin.com/jYbYnEiS
[14:45] <[[thufir]]> llutz: thax, I'll check again.
[14:45] <llutz> [[thufir]]: */10 * * * *  foo                       to run it every 10 minutes
[14:45] <unicornjedi> i have a problem with Joomla, I can't get the right write permissions for the /var/www/logs ans /var/www/tmp directory
[14:46] <Ilmen> MonkeyDust: I get the following reply: "There is only one alternative in link group default.plymouth (providing /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth): /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth   Nothing to configure."
[14:47] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, i can help with permissions and webservices but I never used Joomla. Do you know how to use the linux shell to enter in commands?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> Ilmen  then i don't know
[14:47] <[[thufir]]> llutz: thx
[14:47] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, yes i know how to get around in the terminal
[14:48] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, Can we join #Joomla to talk?
[14:48] <Ilmen> Somebody recommend to run "sudo apt-get install plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo";  I'll try this %)
[14:48] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, you've tried "chmod 755" etc first? or do you need help with that? I'm not sure of your skill level, sorry if its a odd question. =)
[14:49] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, okay hold on
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> Ilmen  let me know if it did the job
[14:49] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, oh wait don't do anything yet I was just inquiring if you've tried.
[14:49] <Ilmen> MonkeyDust: ok
[14:50] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, i haven't changed the permissions like that, i've just been changing the ownership of the file so far. www-data worked for all of my other folders
[14:51] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, if its not on a production server you can try: "chmod 755 /var/www/logs && chmod 755 /var/www/tmp" (remove the quotes)
[14:52] <alkamid> willbradley, I changed to unity2d and it works fine now
[14:52] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, actually add a -R flag "chmod -R 755 /var/www/logs && chmod -R 755 /var/www/tmp" (remove the quotes)
[14:52] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, so its recursive.
[14:52] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, okay. what does 755 mean?
[14:53] <theadmin> unicornjedi: 7 = full access, 5 = read+executa
[14:53] <theadmin> unicornjedi: Full access for the owner, read/exec for the group and everyone else.
[14:53] <unicornjedi> theadmin, I don't think thats safe for my live site
[14:53] <theadmin> unicornjedi: Valid point.
[14:54] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, yeah thats why i said if its not on a production server. =)
[14:54] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, development server for debugging only otherwise that might cause security issues.
[14:54] <Ilmen> MonkeyDust: well, it didn't work; I'll ask in #kubuntu, I may get more information there. Thanks anyway :)
[14:55] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, I'd recommend having a dev server for this sort of stuff so theres no risk, once you have it figured out you can push it up to your production server.
[14:55] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, my site is offline right now. so I can go crazy with it now
[14:56] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, ok then if u want to, this should get it working then u can tweak the permissions.
[14:56] <nik22> hello, i am a new user and i have some questions. is there somebody who has spare time to help me?
[14:56] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, "chmod -R 766 /var/www/logs && chmod -R 766 /var/www/tmp"
[14:56] <theadmin> nik22: Ask away.
[14:56] <[[thufir]]> llutz: I set it as so:     http://pastebin.com/RfNihFYV  and am still waiting for it to run.
[14:57] <nik22> can i put the laucher bar down like windows 7?
[14:57] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, then see if your permission issue is solved then u can remove them.
[14:57] <theadmin> nik22: Not in Unity, no
[14:57] <Dynamicwork> nik22: Absolutly not
[14:57] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, once I do that how do I check the permissions of the folders afterwards?
[14:57] <theadmin> nik22: You can use an alternative desktop, though. Kubuntu feels a lot like Windows 7 in many ways.
[14:58] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, what I do is 'ls -alh ./'
[14:58] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, list "all, list format, human friendly sizes"
[14:58] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, it will have permissions on the list
[14:58] <nik22> ok next question, what is the keyboard shortcut for language change?
[14:59] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, drwxr-xr-x  2 unicornjedi unicornjedi
[14:59] <theadmin> nik22: You can configure that in Settings -> Keyboard Layout -> Options. I think the default is Alt+Shift, but I am not sure.
[14:59] <theadmin> ShadowE989: -l is not "list format" it's "long"
[14:59] <theadmin> Just saying
[14:59] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, ok see how it has 10 characters there where it has the 'drwx-etc'
[14:59] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, :p intrepret pwease
[15:00] <ShadowE989> theadmin, hehe
[15:00] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, yessir
[15:00] <nik22> super+space is the default
[15:00] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, ignore the d and notice there is 3 groups of 3 characters, rwx / r-x / r-x
[15:01] <nik22> i found it in text entry options
[15:01] <theadmin> nik22: Ah, it is in 13.10, indeed. I assumed you were running 12.04.
[15:01] <theadmin> Guess I should have asked
[15:01] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, each group of 3 means the permissions for owner, group, everyone
[15:02] <[[thufir]]> I thought that I fixed this cron job:  http://pastebin.com/RfNihFYV   but it doesn't seem to run.     can I check a log to see error messages, maybe?
[15:02] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, so its set to owner = read, write, execute / group = read execute / everyone = read, execute
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | unicornjedi seems you might be in need of this. much of the console basics are covered in this
[15:02] <ShadowE989> hitsujiTMO, i agree
[15:03] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, okayyy, i'll check the manual. reading is such a boreee
[15:03] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, brushing up wont hurt if you're running a server, but run the command I gave you before but with 766 instead of 755. like...
[15:04] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, "chmod -R 766 /var/www/logs && chmod -R 766 /var/www/tmp"
[15:04] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, its the 'nuke it from orbit approach but it will tell you if you're having permission issues or not.
[15:05] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, okay let me try it real quick
[15:05] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, and it should get your site back online if the permissions are indeed the issue.
[15:05] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, fingers crossed =)
[15:07] <sneeky> hmm
[15:07] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, thanks :)    what is the chmod permission to change the folder to a safer state?
[15:08] <unicornjedi> ShadowE989, still not working
[15:09] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, can you pastebin your log?
[15:09] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, make sure theres no sensitive information though.
[15:09] <unicornjedi> unicornjedi@swagnificient:/var/www/beautiful.silksky.com$ sudo chmod -R 766 logs && sudo chmod -R 766 tmp
[15:09] <unicornjedi> [sudo] password for unicornjedi:
[15:10] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, ahh spam bot probably got ya, post in paste.ubuntu.com
[15:10] <ShadowE989> unicornjedi, then paste the link here.
[15:11] <[[thufir]]> I thought that I fixed this cron job:  http://pastebin.com/RfNihFYV   but it doesn't seem to run.     can I check a log to see error messages, maybe?
[15:12] <unicornjedi> can you read this
[15:14] <pfifo> [[thufir]]: cron usually sends mail to root regarding errors and script output
[15:14] <[[thufir]]> pfifo: ah, I was just about to ask how to check something like that :)
[15:15] <kkq> has anyone been able to configure HPLIP for HP lpt printer (ubuntu 12.04  server)?
[15:15] <llrealmanll> how can i force install with apt using higher version of selected. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3827172
[15:15] <llrealmanll> i need to install 5.4.23
[15:15] <llrealmanll> but idont know why 5.4.6 is selected by default
[15:16] <pfifo> llrealmanll: by default apt will use the latest version available in the repos
[15:16] <theadmin> llrealmanll: sudo apt-get install packagename
[15:16] <theadmin> llrealmanll: That will update the individual package to the latest version.
[15:17] <llrealmanll> pfifo: you see it's not latest version
[15:17] <[[thufir]]> there was an e-mail to root that /etc/cron.daily/apt had been terminated (by me) on 20 dec, but nothing new.  Any other reasons why this cron:  http://pastebin.com/RfNihFYV  isn't working?  or, how to test it?
[15:17] <theadmin> [[thufir]]: cron, for one, can't run apps that are interactive, say those that expect console input. Is that the case?
[15:18] <llrealmanll> theadmin: ty solved :D
[15:18] <hkr> So, What IRC Client is the best for buntu?
[15:19] <pfifo> hkr: irssi
[15:19] <theadmin> hkr: There's no "best', everyone has their own tastes. irssi and xchat seem popular.
[15:19] <[[thufir]]> theadmin: not really, when I execute that script by typing in its path, it executes without further user input...I don't quite follow your question.  When the script executes, it pegs the cpu.  (bitcoin type mining)
[15:19] <tutak> Hello guys
[15:19] <hkr> Okay. Let me try that out. I really like XChat :D
[15:19] <[[thufir]]> hkr: I like pidgin
[15:19] <theadmin> [[thufir]]: Ah, alright.
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> hkr  try a few, then decide which you  like more
[15:19] <SrRaven> Hi, I have a macbook pro taht already has windows on it via dual boot, want to add linux to this, any idea how ?
[15:19] <hkr> Ah, Irssi is CLI based.
[15:19] <hkr> Cool.
[15:19] <[[thufir]]> theadmin: I was thinking, maybe have the script put a log somewhere saying "ok, I'm running."?
[15:20] <Wug> theadmin: I don't suppose you know off the top of your head if hexchat is available for ubuntu?
[15:20] <maxvi> Hi everyone! the download checkbox was hide in transmission and I can't exclude some files from download...
[15:20] <theadmin> Wug: Ain't, at least not in 12.04 default repos.
[15:20] <pfifo> !info hexchat | wug
[15:20] <theadmin> Well, there.
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> maxvi  not sure if transmission can do it, but deluge can
[15:21] <Wug> there's a small difference between being in the repos and being available
[15:21] <theadmin> Wug: Oh, if that's what you mean, sure. They have a PPA on their homepage.
[15:21] <theadmin> Wug: Just use that.
[15:21] <tutak> when i access a /Desktop/folder1 through terminal and then from there type cd /  and then tab instead of giving me possible names of the folders in folder1 it instead gives the names of the subfolders in Root
[15:21] <tutak> what am i doing wrong?
[15:21] <Wug> fyi, but if you have the blessing of choice, pick hexchat.
[15:22] <theadmin> tutak: Because / is the root directory. ~ is your home directory, which is where Desktop and stuff is.
[15:22] <maxvi> MonkeyDust: I did it earlier with other torrent files and it keep works for them... but not for this torrent file (
[15:22] <Wug> xchat has some outstanding security issues and has not been updated in years
[15:22] <pfifo> maxvi: what exactly is the problem?
[15:22] <theadmin> Wug: Ah. Well, I use Quassel myself.
[15:22] <hkr> Does Irssi use emacs style navigation ?
[15:22] <pfifo> hkr: no, but it probably can
[15:23] <Wug> hexchat is basically designed and marketed as having the same look and feel as xchat, which is why I like it
[15:23] <hkr> Hmm... I'm just learning the ropes of vim. I don't need emacs-ish IRCs yet :)
[15:23] <Wug> xchat's user interface is good
[15:23] <ice9> are there complete Unity themes?
[15:23] <tutak> true..
[15:23] <tutak> thanks
[15:23] <hkr> I love XChat. I use it now.
[15:23] <Wug> you'll love hexchat too
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> hkr  if you use irssi in combination with screen, you can easily logout without losing the IRC session
[15:23] <ice9> that modifies the menu bar and windows decoration
[15:23] <Wug> they behave the same way
[15:24] <hkr> Might switch to Irssi. Can't say no to CLI.
[15:24] <Wug> hexchat evolved from xchat-wdk which was basically just an open source xchat clone designed to run on windows
[15:24] <Wug> (unlike the "official" version of xchat on windows, which costs $15 or something)
[15:25] <theadmin> Wug: (which is honestly rather ridiculous... That's against the open-source ideals)
[15:25] <maxvi> pfifo: http://smages.com/images/screenlcl.png there are no download checkboxes... to exclude some files from download also there are no priority select ...
[15:25] <Wug> I agree. I used the free trial for a month before it started demanding money, and then bounced between various clones for a while before settling on hexchat, which performs the best and has the best future.
[15:25] <pfifo> its perfectly acceptable for something to be open source and cost money
[15:26] <Wug> but lack of consistent updates is not doing xchat any good.
[15:26] <Okitain> theadmin: no, actually, it's perfectly acceptable to give source to those who purchase your software.
[15:26] <pfifo> maxvi: make the window bigger?
[15:26] <Okitain> (and then they can share the source with whoever else)
[15:26] <Wug> there are a few password disclosure bugs, in which xchat will just beam your passwords out to random servers on connection
[15:27] <theadmin> Okitain: Ah, okay. Well. Commercial open-source is rare nowadays though. Anyways, I'm headed off.
[15:27] <maxvi> pfifo: oh.... sorry this is my fake... thanks!
[15:27] <Okitain> theadmin: well, Stallman did it.
[15:28] <Okitain> Has anyone used Windows Quassel?
[15:32] <[[thufir]]> ok, I put my minerd cron job into gnome-schedule and it works!  good.  but, where does gnome-schedule save its cron jobs to?  I want to look at the syntax.  the man page just says it uses anacron.
[15:33] <bekks> [[thufir]]: crontab -l
[15:37] <ztane> MonkeyDust: yah, did so
[15:38] <ztane> hmm, before I had always installed konsole (preferred term emu) in my ubuntu/unity using apt-get install konsole, but does not work with saucy anymore,
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> ztane  ?
[15:39] <ztane> unmet dependencies after each other...
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> just letting you guys know ive installed a cool package to print photo's on a4: named photoprint
[15:39] <ztane> do I neeed to pull all of kdelibs by hand or what?
[15:39] <ztane>  konsole : Depends: kde-runtime but it is not going to be installed
[15:41] <[[thufir]]> bekks: thanks.
[15:41] <ztane> i just want konsole ?D
[15:41] <ztane> :DD
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> ztane  in a terminla, type    apt-cache depends konsole    is it useful?
[15:47] <mvk> i would like to change my /opt directory, and put it on a external storage drive
[15:47] <mvk> but my fstab is empty, well it says: # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
[15:47] <ztane> MonkeyDust: ah just needed to run apt-get update
[15:48] <mvk> how do i move my fstab?
[15:48] <Balzy> hello! I've just installed ati proprietary drivers on kubuntu 13.10, everything went good but after reboot I get a blank screen. For instance, it's not completely black, things appear in the "background" but there is no backlight (it's a notebook)
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | mvk
[15:48] <mvk> i know what fstab is
[15:48] <ztane> mvk: you dont
[15:49] <mvk> but can i simply add one mountpoint to it, for /opt
[15:49] <ztane> yes
[15:49] <mvk> or do i take over alle existing mountpoints (as shown by mtab) into it
[15:50] <ztane> just add a line for opt there
[15:51] <Balzy> anyone willing to help?
[15:51] <SrRaven> Hi, I have a macbook pro taht already has windows on it via dual boot, want to add linux to this, any idea how ?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: if you ask a question sure
[15:52] <mvk> ztane, ok thanks but the device is already mounted.. /dev/sdb1 /media/mvk/Kingston64 ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2 0 0
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> !mac | SrRaven
[15:52] <Balzy> lotuspsychjeasked before, can I post it again?
[15:52] <mvk>  /opt has to become a directory on this, so i mkdir /opt on it
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: you can re-ask your issue here (once in a while) sure
[15:52] <SrRaven> yes lotuspsychje I know that site, just that it isnt really all so helpful considering I have to haev triple boot in the end
[15:52] <SrRaven> the apge doesnt cover taht
[15:52] <Balzy> lotuspsychje : hello! I've just installed ati proprietary drivers on kubuntu 13.10, everything went good but after reboot I get a blank screen. For instance, it's not completely black, things appear in the "background" but there is no backlight (it's a notebook)
[15:53] <usr> hm
[15:53] <wIzjIn> SrRaven what bootloader your current setup uses ?
[15:53] <SrRaven> the normal boot camp one
[15:54] <wIzjIn> i mean, mac or windows one
[15:54] <SrRaven> ?!
[15:54] <wIzjIn> at dual boot
[15:54] <SrRaven> I dont know
[15:54] <SrRaven> im not even sure i understand your question
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: default installed grafix drivers didnt work for you?
[15:54] <wIzjIn> like when you choose one of the oses at start up
[15:54] <SrRaven> yes?
[15:54] <wIzjIn> which Os-boot-loader is that
[15:55] <mvk> ztane, do you understand what i mean?
[15:55] <SrRaven> like I said, the standard boot camp one
[15:55] <wIzjIn> like mac one or windows
[15:55] <SrRaven> no idea what its called
[15:55] <Balzy> lotuspsychje they worked but had some energy consumption and heating issues
[15:55] <wIzjIn> ok right
[15:55] <wIzjIn> so now do you have enough empty space on ur hdd ?
[15:55] <SrRaven> im waiting for my ubuntu download to finish
[15:56] <SrRaven> so I can take 50 gb of my mac osx partition
[15:56] <SrRaven> whcih im doing using the hard drive tool from mac itself
[15:56] <wIzjIn> right
[15:56] <SrRaven> eta 3 mins + partitioning time
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: maybe try a previous kernel in grub (recoverymode) and failsafeX
[15:56] <wIzjIn> so when you install ubuntu, its bootloader grub should automatically detect your currently installed OSes
[15:57] <SrRaven> I hope so otherwise im screwed lol
[15:57] <wIzjIn> no no
[15:57] <wIzjIn> it will
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  backup first, if needed
[15:57] <SrRaven> using 12.10 btw
[15:57] <wIzjIn> but i recommend you use an extra swap partition
[15:57] <wIzjIn> other then the one you install ubuntu on
[15:57] <SrRaven> the newest version of ubuntu somehow doesnt have much tutorial wise in the mac section
[15:58] <wIzjIn> and in case
[15:58] <wIzjIn> have you ever used ubuntu before ?
[15:58] <SrRaven> theres nothing of importance on the macbook
[15:58] <SrRaven> yeah
[15:58] <SrRaven> been a while but yes
[15:58] <wIzjIn> so you should know the default software store
[15:58] <SrRaven> yeah
[15:58] <wIzjIn> from which you can download apps
[15:59] <Balzy> lotuspsychje the safe mode with the bash console works properly, I can anything from there but I have no idea about fixing the issue when running the default kde session, any idea?
[15:59] <wIzjIn> so in case, you install ubuntu, and it doesn't happen to detect or old OSes
[15:59] <wIzjIn> note this instruction down
[15:59] <SrRaven> im on my desktop atm
[15:59] <SrRaven> so i wont go
[16:00] <wIzjIn> There is a utility out there called "Boot-Repair" which you can install through terminal via simple command
[16:00] <wIzjIn> incase if grub overrides or old OSes
[16:00] <wIzjIn> use it from the newly installed ubuntu
[16:00] <bibi234> I'd like to install ubuntu on a computer, how can I know if I need 32 bits or 64 bits, my CPU is "Intel Pentium Dual Core G2020."
[16:00] <wIzjIn> it has an option "quick fix" a one-clicker.. it will fix it for sure
[16:00] <wIzjIn> but i am sure ubuntu will detect your old OSes
[16:01] <SrRaven> partitioning now
[16:01] <wIzjIn> A simple google will let you to "boot-repair" install guide...
[16:01] <SrRaven> well removing 50 gb from the mac partitons, im resizing more or less
[16:01] <wIzjIn> keep 50 gb space unpartitioned
[16:01] <wIzjIn> make 5 gb swap partition
[16:02] <wIzjIn> and 45 gb ext4
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> Balzy: not sure mate, maybe the #kubuntu guys might know?
[16:02] <SrRaven> ehh wIzjIn thats complicated now
[16:02] <wIzjIn> that ext4 partition you ll have to use as mount point
[16:02] <wIzjIn> whats so complicated ?
[16:03] <wIzjIn> whats so complicated ?
[16:03] <SrRaven> that the partitioning tool of mac doesnt offer me the 45 gb part
[16:03] <SrRaven> eh ext4
[16:03] <wIzjIn> dont worry abt that now
[16:03] <SrRaven> I can either format in fat or exfat or leave it empty
[16:03] <SrRaven> so...
[16:03] <wIzjIn> keep it unpartitoned
[16:03] <SrRaven> should I just "clear" 100~ ?
[16:04] <wIzjIn> all these you have to do is while installing ubuntu
[16:04] <ehdi> Does linux have "Rights Management Services" on Linux --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Directory_Rights_Management_Services
[16:04] <Balzy> lotuspsychje okay I'll try to ask there, thanks!
[16:04] <wIzjIn> right now, you just need certain amount of empty space
[16:04] <wIzjIn> be it 50 or 100 gigs
[16:04] <SrRaven> alright resizing again :P
[16:04] <SrRaven> I only need to do some homework on it lol
[16:04] <SrRaven> I rather not use the software on windows :/
[16:05] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: You can resize partitions from within Ubuntu's installer.
[16:06] <SrRaven> done
[16:06] <SrRaven> rebooting into the usb ubuntu (hopefully)
[16:06] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: Do *not* use boot camp, it creats an ugly "hybrid MBR".
[16:07] <SrRaven> what u mean
[16:07] <wIzjIn> Jordan_U, he is largely unaware..
[16:07] <SrRaven> alright it isnt booting into live ubuntu
[16:08] <wIzjIn> are you sure you have usb-boot enabled from Bios ? set it as first priority ?
[16:08] <SrRaven> no and no !
[16:09] <SrRaven> wait how th fuck do you enter one on a macbook
[16:09] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: To allow installation of Windows, Apple's boot camp creates an out-of-spec msdos label even though you have GPT. It's ugly and causes problems and is not needed if you're notbooting Windows.
[16:10] <Jordan_U> !language | SrRaven
[16:10] <SrRaven> sorry :/
[16:11] <wIzjIn> Jordan_U, will Grub detect older OSes in this case ?
[16:11] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: What iso did you use to create the bootable USB, and what tool?
[16:12] <SrRaven> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Quantal
[16:12] <SrRaven> used the tool in the boot section
[16:12] <Jordan_U> wIzjIn: Older? In what case?
[16:12] <wIzjIn> in SrRaven
[16:12] <wIzjIn> 's case
[16:14] <Jordan_U> wIzjIn: What do you mean by "older"?
[16:14] <wIzjIn> previously installed
[16:14] <Jordan_U> wIzjIn: Yes, it will.
[16:15] <wIzjIn> so SrRaven your good to go
[16:15] <SrRaven> as soon as I get it to boot
[16:15] <SrRaven> Im newschool...I dont have a cdr blank
[16:15] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: I asked two questions, you only answered one.
[16:15] <SrRaven> whats the second one
[16:16] <SrRaven> I answered one previously, I used the 12.10 version
[16:16] <SrRaven> like the tutorial suggests (its for 12.10) and the tool I used (as said before) was the one in the boot section
[16:16] <SrRaven> but the unetbootin doesnt seem to work
[16:17] <wIzjIn> it may be cause of some faulty setting in BIOS
[16:17] <SrRaven> ...and how would I enter a mac bios?
[16:17] <SrRaven> bios is windows
[16:17] <wIzjIn> generally, you can go there by pressing "Del" or "F2" while your computer is starting(booting)..
[16:17] <wIzjIn> there must be something similar in mac
[16:18] <hassen_> does formatting the HDD, or 1/some of its partitions many times harm it given a period of time?(e.g to install an OS)
[16:19] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: Try Unetbootin and the normal (*not "+mac") Ubuntu 13.10 iso.
[16:19] <SrRaven> but the tutorial is a dozen times more confusing
[16:21] <pfifo> hassen_: no
[16:21] <oriez> I've got an SD card that I can't get work after formating, I tried GParted but when i'm deleting everything and then creating a full disk Fat32 partiton it doesn't seem to detect the partition in gparted!!!!!! maybe I massed up partitions... so I tried deleting everything - MBR too (dd etc.)
[16:21] <oriez> whats the problem?
[16:21] <Jordan_U> hassen_: No more than any other operation that writes an equivalent amount of data.
[16:22] <oriez> i'm stuck with /dev/loop0 when mounting...
[16:23] <bekks> oriez: how are you mounting then? /dev/loop0 isntr required for mounting a SD card.
[16:23] <oriez> idk, it automount loop0
[16:24] <oriez> bekks, i get -  /dev/loop0                    3.4G  4.1k  3.4G
[16:24] <bekks> oriez: Where do you get that?
[16:24] <oriez> but the drive is 16GB
[16:24] <Jordan_U> oriez: Please pastebin the output of "losetup" "sudo parted -l" and "mount".
[16:24] <oriez> df -H
[16:25] <SrRaven> sorry my internet died
[16:25] <SrRaven> lost the last 6 mins
[16:25] <SrRaven> Jordan_U you said I should get 13.10, it isnt listed in the macbook pro wiki page, still go ahead or not?
[16:26] <munz> SrRaven: im running 13.10 on a 5.5 macbook pro
[16:26] <SrRaven> awesome
[16:26] <munz> no bios in macs, uefi sorta
[16:26] <SrRaven> but thats pre-intel isnt it
[16:26] <Calinou> HELp
[16:27] <Calinou> HOW DO I ADD MYSELF TO SUDOERS FILE
[16:27] <munz> no dual core
[16:27] <Calinou> I REMOVED THE ONLY SUDOER
[16:27] <munz> nvidia vid
[16:27] <SrRaven> hehe
[16:27] <bekks> Calinou: We can read lowercase too.
[16:27] <munz> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1533?viewlocale=de_de
[16:27] <munz> boot keys there
[16:27] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: My guess is that more will work out of the box, though you may have a harder time finding instructions for fixing the things that don't. More importantly, for a USB you don't want the +mac iso.
[16:27] <munz> hold c during startup for cd or usb
[16:27] <pfifo> Calinou: USE A CHROOT
[16:28] <Calinou> I need something simple
[16:28] <SrRaven> thanks both of you
[16:28] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: Pre-intel they were powerbooks.
[16:28] <pfifo> Calinou: format and reinstall
[16:28] <SrRaven> formatting my usb stick first
[16:28] <Calinou> that's simpler, but that requires ~1 hour
[16:28] <bekks> Calinou: Then use a chroot.
[16:29] <Calinou> how? what?
[16:29] <bekks> !chroot | Calinou
[16:29] <munz> as far as installing i agree, do not use bootcamp let grub/ubuntu handle it
[16:29] <Calinou> I can't use any sudo commands
[16:29] <bekks> Calinou: Use a livecd and a chroot.
[16:29] <pfifo> Calinou: you could also boot into recovery mode, that drops you into a root shell without asking for a password, then add a user to the admin group or edit sudoers as needed
[16:30] <SrRaven> yeah be patient with me folks, still formatting :/
[16:30] <oriez> Jordan_U - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RWDzUVBu
[16:30] <nik22> hello, how can i create a bootable usb in ubuntu? i used pendrive in windows to do this job
[16:31] <Calinou> pfifo, what file do I need to edit then
[16:31] <SrRaven> should i format the stick to ms-dos or something?
[16:31] <munz> SrRaven: if your fans dont work after install check this http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/ppa-install-fan-control-ubuntu-macbook/
[16:31] <SrRaven> ...lol
[16:32] <SrRaven> that might get hot :P
[16:32] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: No, GPT is ideal. I'm not sure if unetbootin will set things up properly for EFI though.
[16:32] <SrRaven> GPT ?
[16:33] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: GUID Partition Table.
[16:33] <bekks> Calinou: the same you deleted yourself from. /etc/sudoers
[16:33] <Calinou> I used the GUI Stuff
[16:33] <Calinou> so I have no idea
[16:34] <SrRaven> Jordan_U how would I format it that way, windows doesnt offer me that
[16:35] <munz> SrRaven: also by default to use the f1, f2, f3, etc you have to press fn+f1 the details and workaround can be found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard
[16:35] <oriez> Jordan_U & bekks - the thing is that GParted can format the drive but can't detect the filesystem which Gparted made!! tried both Ext(2,3,4) and FAT32
[16:35] <Jordan_U> SrRaven: So you currently have Windows and OSX installed on this Macbook?
[16:35] <SrRaven> yes
[16:35] <SrRaven> and im using windows (my desktop PC) to write this
[16:36] <Jordan_U> oriez: Just "mount".
[16:37] <teenox> Anyone have an idea on how to fix this? Lubuntu installed on remote VPS running Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, using tightvnc to VNC to Lubuntu. Chromium does not work. Same install on Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit VPS and Chromium works perfectly.
[16:37] <oriez> it says "created successfully" but then refreshed and nothing detectable
[16:37] <oriez> Jordan_U , I did
[16:37] <bekks> oriez: Then create the partitions using gparted, and create the filesystems using mkfs
[16:38] <Jordan_U> oriez: No, you posted the output of "mount /dev/sdc1".
[16:38] <oriez> Jordan_U , but i get the loop and the error that was in pastebin
[16:38] <SrRaven> seems to boot now
[16:38] <SrRaven> as I dont see anything
[16:39] <SrRaven> its white screen'ing
[16:40] <oriez> Jordan_U , http://pastebin.com/PCN2ZpBa - you mean this?
[16:40] <[[thufir]]> what is the syntax error with this cron job?  http://pastebin.com/LqygtrDs     seems pretty straightforward...
[16:41] <SrRaven> it wont boot :/
[16:41] <oriez> Jordan_U , how do you create a partiton with no fs.... unformatted option??
[16:42] <oriez> or cleared?
[16:42] <SrRaven> ok now it did
[16:43] <munz> :)
[16:43] <SrRaven> so now, should I use the option "add ubuntu next to mac osx" or use the "something else" option?
[16:43] <SrRaven> considering I already have a dual boot windows thing
[16:44] <munz> does it see the windows side?
[16:44] <SrRaven> where
[16:45] <SrRaven> it only says "theres already mac osx"
[16:45] <munz> the installer, it only gives an option for the osx not windows too?
[16:45] <SrRaven> yes
[16:46] <Calinou> the graphical app that manages accounts still sucks, because it doesn't give sudo to people clearly marked as administrator
[16:46] <Calinou> but in any distro, giving someone sudo is a pain
[16:46] <oriez> Jordan_U , http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jUGy01Dv - maybe that can lead to something??
[16:46] <munz> sounds like the bootcamped windows will fall under the mac osx boot, Jordan_U u agree?
[16:46] <bekks> Calinou: because being administrator is technically different from having sudo privileges.
[16:46] <munz> sooo... i would do the along side osx, not sure what other choice we have
[16:46] <munz> sounds correct
[16:46] <bekks> Calinou: It is a oneline to give sudo to someone. Add the user to the group wheel.
[16:47] <bekks> Calinou: No need to even touch /etc/sudoers.
[16:47] <SrRaven> ok
[16:47] <Calinou> wheel?
[16:47] <SrRaven> it even already has macbook keyboard as options,neat
[16:47] <Calinou> why not something like "sudo"?
[16:47] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:47] <munz> sweet
[16:47] <bekks> Calinou: Because its wheel.
[16:48] <Calinou> anyway I would have to do that from a live USB
[16:48] <teenox> anyone know why chromium would work on ubuntu server 10.04 but not 12.04? Installed lubuntu desktop and accessing remotely with vnc
[16:48] <bekks> Calinou: you could already have done it successfully.
[16:49] <wIzjIn> SrRaven how are you faring ?
[16:49] <SrRaven> its installing
[16:51] <induz> How can I get a driver for Lexmark printer[OEM does not have for ubuntu]
[16:51] <induz> using Ubuntu 10
[16:52] <induz> Printer is not getting connected to ubuntu
[16:52] <induz> need help
[16:52] <oriez> Jordan_U , i did mkfs -T vfat /dev/****  and still im stuck with the 3.4G empty loop and gpart doesn't detect the filesystem - i got this when doing mkfs: Warning: the fs_type vfat is not defined in mke2fs.conf
[16:52] <oriez> warning: Unable to get device geometry for /dev/sdc1
[16:52] <oriez> Discarding device blocks: failed - Invalid argument
[16:52] <profligacy> Which ubuntu should I get? My friend sad that he would give me the latest UBunutu CD and install it for me for $50. Is the installation complicated and how much does the Ubuntu CD usually go for?
[16:52] <SrRaven> rebooting
[16:52] <SrRaven> ...wtf
[16:52] <SrRaven> ubuntu is free man!
[16:53] <bekks> oriez: What did you do in fact? /dev/**** is an invalid device.
[16:53] <induz> yes its free
[16:53] <Calinou> induz, 10.04 and 10.10 aren't supported anymore in their Desktop forms
[16:53] <Calinou> anyway, Lexmark printer is known for being quite bad
[16:53] <induz> Cal
[16:53] <munz> yay!
[16:53] <SrRaven> now its stuck at * Asking all remaining processes to terminate...
[16:53] <oriez> bekks, I meant /dev/sdc1
[16:53] <induz> Calinow  how to make it working
[16:54] <munz> for the reboot?
[16:54] <bekks> induz: Do you use an ubuntu 10 desktop?
[16:54] <induz> usding 10.4 Lucid
[16:54] <induz> yes
[16:54] <bekks> induz: thats not supported anymore.
[16:54] <SrRaven> still stuck...should I do a hard power off?
[16:54] <induz> what do u mean by not supported
[16:54] <munz> yes
[16:55] <induz> do i have to buy new
[16:55] <induz> bekks
[16:55] <SrRaven> alright, it sees my windows and mac
[16:55] <SrRaven> havent bothered to test it yet though
[16:55] <munz> cool :)
[16:56] <SrRaven> The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap isnt available yet
[16:56] <SrRaven> that normal?
[16:56] <induz> bekks
[16:56] <dufa> SrRaven: at boot it says that to me often, just wait a while
[16:57] <dufa> havent looked into it more, though
[16:57] <induz> what version of ubuntu r we running now[lates]
[16:57] <munz> ohhh you do encrypted
[16:57] <munz> ?
[16:57] <SrRaven> sure why not
[16:57] <SrRaven> should I have ?
[16:57] <munz> :)
[16:57] <munz> its fine
[16:58] <munz> that is normal in my exp w/encrypted
[16:58] <induz> @bekks- what version
[16:58] <dufa> I do encrypted, it doesnt get in the way, so why not
[16:58] <compdoc> encrypted screws me up
[16:58] <induz> can i upgrade to the lates
[16:58] <munz> "/dev/mapper/cryptswap isnt available" yet that is
[16:59] <induz> i need this lexmark to work o my ubuntu
[16:59] <munz> the only issue is doing data recovery is more difficult
[16:59] <SrRaven> wifi doesnt work
[16:59] <munz> when you are asked to create your key/password... **remember it**
[17:00] <munz> what ver macbook?
[17:01] <SrRaven> 8.1
[17:02] <munz> can you plugin the ethernet for a few?
[17:03] <munz> then do: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[17:03] <munz> should do the trick
[17:05] <SrRaven> thats what I tried but nope
[17:05] <bekks> induz: 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[17:06] <munz> can you do: lspci -nn
[17:06] <SrRaven> sure sec
[17:06] <SrRaven> doing thast power fan thing atm
[17:06] <munz> k
[17:07] <SrRaven> did it...where do I look
[17:07] <munz> did it give you any info?
[17:07] <SrRaven> loads
[17:07] <SrRaven> broadcom bcm 4331
[17:07] <SrRaven> thats the one I think
[17:07] <munz> look for network controller
[17:07] <munz> yes!
[17:09] <munz> ok did you already add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mpodroid/mactel?
[17:10] <SrRaven> did now
[17:10] <munz> ok then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[17:12] <SrRaven> downloading it
[17:12]  * SrRaven minimizes the unity bar
[17:12] <SrRaven> done
[17:12] <munz> modprobe -r b43 && modprobe b43
[17:13] <SrRaven> operation not permitted
[17:13] <SrRaven> sudo it ?
[17:13] <munz> errr sudo it
[17:13] <munz> yes
[17:13] <SrRaven> so just add teh sudo in the front ?
[17:13] <SrRaven> cause that doesnt work
[17:13] <munz> cool
[17:13] <munz> yes
[17:13] <SrRaven> "could not insert 'b43'
[17:15] <munz> ok, lets do sudo modprobe -r b43 then sudo modprobe b43
[17:15] <SrRaven> im not getting a confirmation or anything
[17:15] <SrRaven> but I did it
[17:16] <munz> ok, next we need to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the line: blacklist ndiswrapper
[17:16] <SrRaven> wel l guess it logging into my wifi is some form of confirmation :P
[17:16] <munz> so gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:17] <munz> and add the line
[17:17] <SrRaven> wahh I did pico
[17:17] <SrRaven> cause I remembered that
[17:17] <munz> :)
[17:17] <SrRaven> but dont remember how to exit in pico
[17:17] <munz> nice
[17:17] <munz> ha, me either lol
[17:18] <dufa> SrRaven: SrRaven control + X
[17:19] <munz> after that we need to create or edit the file /etc/pm/config.d/modules and make sure the wireless modules (b43 and bcma) are blacklisted: SUSPEND_MODULES="b43 bcma"
[17:19] <munz> then reboot, and should be working, if not,
[17:20] <munz> sudo modprobe -r b43 then sudo modprobe b43 once more
[17:20] <SrRaven> sec sec
[17:20] <munz> k
[17:20] <petra> need help
[17:20] <SrRaven> so I I guess I dont have the file when I pico into the modules
[17:20] <bekks> !help | petra
[17:20] <SrRaven> simply copy/paste what you wrote?
[17:21] <petra> when I start my computer all i see is Petra@Petra:~$[] it dosen't shows any "gui"
[17:21] <munz> SrRaven: yes
[17:22] <SrRaven> done!
[17:22] <SrRaven> battery gives false informatio
[17:22] <SrRaven> idea?
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> petra: when you "installed" what did you use, the minimal ISO, the server ISO, or the Ubuntu Desktop ISO?
[17:22] <SrRaven> it says 0:32 and 81%
[17:22] <SrRaven> os is that the time left to charge ?
[17:23] <petra> Ubuntu Desktop iso
[17:23]  * SrRaven gets chrome
[17:24] <munz> 0:32 is time left and 81% is remaining battery
[17:24] <SrRaven> thanks munz so far for everything :)
[17:24] <TheLordOfTime> petra: type in `sudo pidof lightdm` and see if it returns any output.  (You will have to enter your password there, but it won't display any characters or change from a blinking prompt, just type it in and hit enter)
[17:24] <munz> no prob, glad to help :)
[17:25] <FiremanEd> petra : What's the result of lsb_release -a
[17:25] <SrRaven> and holy noodles does the fan go nuts on linux
[17:25] <munz> ha
[17:25] <TheLordOfTime> petra: also do what FiremanEd asked too :)
[17:25] <Calinou> mac owner problems
[17:25] <induz> Lexmark is not supported on Ubuntu??
[17:25] <induz> is it/?
[17:25] <induz> new to Linux
[17:25] <munz> ummmmm tinnk next is find the type of vid card
[17:26] <munz> and get the right drivers working, without them the cpu is doing it and runs the temp up & fan
[17:26] <kaddi> hi guys. I just updated my laptop and now it no longer boots. The error messages are "usb 2-7: unable to read config index=0 descriptor/start -71" and  "usb 2-7: can't read configuration. error -71". Ubuntu is 13.10. How to fix?
[17:26] <induz> trying to connect lexmark 4530
[17:26] <SrRaven> yeah lets do it munz
[17:26] <induz> can not get it connected
[17:26] <SrRaven> question though, how do I add the now installed chrome to the ubuntu bar
[17:27] <munz> i *think* yours is nvidia too.... ummm upen it and r-click the icon on the bar
[17:28] <SrRaven> it isnt in my applications foilder
[17:28] <petra> trying it http://askubuntu.com/questions/320691/ubuntu-boots-on-terminal-only-how-do-i-recover-the-gui-desktop
[17:29] <munz> hmmmm.... im not sure, i dont run unity in my ubuntu installs, i go with gnome-shell
[17:29] <munz> it its installed it should be there tho
[17:29] <alex__> hello
[17:30] <SrRaven> ah had to run from terminal first
[17:30] <munz> ahhhh... :)
[17:30] <SrRaven> so,video card?
[17:31] <mike-irssi> SrRaven: alt+f2 type "chromium-browser" when it opens... on the side--right click, choose pin
[17:31] <munz> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:32] <txithihausen> Hi fellows, my Ubuntu 13.04 is presenting a strange behaviour. It cannot mount a dvd properly. Whenever I insert a disk, my ubuntu indicates that the disk is empty even this is not correct. Do you happen to know what's going on?
[17:33] <txithihausen> If I try to mount the disk manually (mount /dev/dvd /mnt/diretorioqualquer ) it raises the following message:
[17:33] <SrRaven> im not sure im a fan of the ubuntu launcher so far
[17:34] <txithihausen> mount: /dev/sr0: it is not possible to read the superblock
[17:34] <SrRaven> done munz
[17:34] <kaddii> hi. me again. ive realised that i can l log in on tty but display cant be opened.
[17:35] <munz> i hated it at first, then was told "try it for 2 wks and learn the hot keys" i gave it a shot and did likeit, but then i gave gnome3 the same shot and never looked back, and its great with multiple displays
[17:35] <kaddii> i think lightdm fails to start
[17:35] <munz> cool you should be good to go then, your vid should now be on the card instead of your cpu
[17:35] <SrRaven> yeah gnome looks nice
[17:35] <SrRaven> how do I change it ?
[17:35] <munz> i loe it
[17:35] <munz> *love
[17:36] <munz> well i had trouble with changing it in 13.10
[17:37] <roman> ирмп
[17:37] <munz> before that (12.10 and prior) it was sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[17:37] <mike-irssi> txithihausen: mount or sudo mount
[17:37] <txithihausen> sudo mount
[17:37] <alberto> irc:///oce@n
[17:37] <hkr> Should I upgrade to a 4th Gen Inter processor? I play some FPSs and open world games but i'm not a heavy gamer. I also dual boot linux. I currently have i3-3220.
[17:37] <mike-irssi> txithihausen: it might be in play, meaning fstab mounted it somewhere, did you check "mount"
[17:38] <munz> last time it broke my system, so i now ownload the gnomeubuntu fork of ubuntu
[17:38] <mike-irssi> or iso9660 something like that needs to specified as to filesytem designaton
[17:39] <SrRaven> buh
[17:39] <txithihausen> I also tried with iso9660 and not worked. Let me see the fstab
[17:39] <plr> hi guys
[17:39] <plr> can you tell me how to switch to another folder using terminal commands ?
[17:40] <SrRaven> alright,time to download the 4.2 gb software package I need
[17:40] <munz> :
[17:40] <munz> :)
[17:40] <dragonslay> plr: use cd
[17:41] <txithihausen> In the fstab there is nothing in regards to cdrom/dvd
[17:41] <BluesKaj> cd /pathtofolder
[17:41] <mike-irssi> txithihausen: did it suggest things such as fuser
[17:42] <pieces029> Hey everyone if I have my own domain name, and I want to setup a mail server for it what would you use?  I was looking at exim, does that seem appropriate?  I would basically like the mail to come in to my personal domain name and then go to my gmail.
[17:42] <kaddii> when i try to start lightdm it says job failed to start
[17:43] <kaddii> how do i get my gui back
[17:43] <SrRaven> so, how do I edit the grub settings?
[17:43] <SrRaven> to maybe also make it ab it more graphical
[17:45] <munz> change grub to change from unity to gnome3 or something else?
[17:45] <Calinou> grub can't be made "graphical"
[17:45] <munz> when you get to the login screen you can change the desktop session
[17:46] <munz> from unity to gnome
[17:46] <SrRaven> Nah I just mean that if I change my OS or my colleagues do at work, they have a more visible solution
[17:46] <SrRaven> also need to edit that linux isnt the first choice
[17:46] <munz> ahhhh
[17:46]  * SrRaven has really really old boss'
[17:47] <mike-irssi> SrRaven: grub-customizer you have to google the ppa
[17:47] <dragonslay> Calinou: we can use bg pics in grub
[17:47] <munz> you want do do terminal or install a gui app to do it?
[17:47] <munz> yes mike-irssi
[17:48] <munz> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
[17:48] <SrRaven> that has time though
[17:48] <SrRaven> I dont need to give the laptop back to work till after winter break :o
[17:48] <Calinou> dragonslay, the whole thing is low resolution usually
[17:48] <Calinou> if you use a screen > 1024×768, it'll look blurred
[17:48] <Calinou> so, it doesn't look nice, and never tried to
[17:48] <munz> update then install grub-customizer
[17:49] <dragonslay> Calinou, we can do some resolution tweaking to improve it
[17:50] <Calinou> and it's painful to do... and never detected automatically
[17:51] <munz> gotta go afk for a bit SrRaven, good luck ill check back with you :)
[17:51] <havv> I'm trying to install the flashplayer plugin on Ubuntu 13.10 and it fails every time. I get: ContentTooShortError: retrieval incomplete: got only 2431 out of 14136904 bytes
[17:51] <SrRaven> thx for everything!
[17:52] <munz> no prob :)
[17:58] <Estragon> hi
[17:58] <Estragon> I have a single partition on which ubuntu is installed
[17:58] <Estragon> I would like to shrink it
[17:59] <yash069> Estragon: hello !
[17:59] <blacklist> test
[17:59] <Estragon> but gparted want it to be unmounted which obviously can't be done as it's the partition mounted on /
[17:59] <SrRaven> if my ubuntu locks itself due to afk-ness
[17:59] <SrRaven> do downloads continue?
[17:59] <DJones> Estragon: You'll need to use a livecd to change partitioning
[17:59] <Estragon> do I have to live usb or is there any other solution ?
[18:00] <Estragon> no way to do it by booting into a shell or something ?
[18:00] <yash069> Estragon: it is not possible to resize on live system unless u have LV
[18:00] <stefan__1> Hey! I have a soundcard which is plugged into my computer, but I cannot get any sound to come out of my headphones.
[18:01] <Estragon> what is LV ?
[18:01] <stefan__1> (And my headphones are plugged into the jacks)
[18:01] <DJones> Estragon: No, the partition needs to be unmounted, so the only way would be a livecd/usb
[18:01] <Estragon> okay, lets go for liveusb
[18:01] <Estragon> thanks :)
[18:03] <yash069> quit
[18:05] <stefan__1> I need help finding out why my sound card is not working
[18:06] <BluesKaj> stefan__1,
[18:06] <BluesKaj> in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M"key'  then turn those controls up to the max.
[18:06] <stefan__1> BluesKaj: and then?
[18:06] <fatjon> somebody use for some minits  & the clock onthe menu bar is diappear
[18:07] <fatjon> what can i do
[18:07] <fatjon> ?
[18:08] <yash069> fatjon: ??
[18:08] <BluesKaj> stefan__1, then play some music or media
[18:09] <fatjon> the computer clock is disappear. what to do for show it?
[18:09] <bekks> fatjon: Logout, log back in. It should be there again.
[18:11] <fatjon> bekks: i have to restart the computer?
[18:11] <bekks> fatjon: I said: logout, login. I did not say: reboot
[18:12] <fatjon> how can i log out?
[18:12] <mastro> Hi, I have this very old PC of a friend I'm putting Ubuntu 6.10 in it. Everything works but I need to install some stuff. I need internet and hoped to use an USB wireless stick I have which need rt2800usb driver. It's not there in Ubuntu 6.10. Any suggestion?
[18:13] <Calinou> we don't support 6.10 here
[18:13] <Calinou> since... 2008
[18:13] <ehnde> i installed the fglrx driver and i can no longer log into my desktop via GDM. what can i do?
[18:13] <ehnde> the desktop login screen comes up, but there is no way to log in...no authentication dialogue
[18:14] <mastro> Calinou, well modern ubuntu do not run on that PC
[18:14] <DJones> mastro: 6.10 isn't supported anymore, you'd be better using 12.04, if its a low powered machine, maybe look at Lubuntu/Xubuntu rather than Ubuntu
[18:14] <mastro> DJones, nope. too hard to use for him
[18:15] <Calinou> too hard?
[18:15] <andyfied> lubuntu hard?
[18:15] <yash069> mastro: put xbuntu
[18:15] <Calinou> lubuntu is lighter
[18:15] <knightshade> Hello
[18:15] <SchrodingersScat> knightshade: hello
[18:15] <mastro> DJones, plain Ubuntu 6.10 is just perfect for him. I'm not going to follow that suggestion and start over. If you don't support me here I'll go ask in some other random channel.
[18:16] <DJones> mastro: Its not just support, all of the repo's for 6.10 will have been removed, it'll have a lot of out of date software, thats why it doesn't get support anymore
[18:17] <mastro> DJones, that's not an issue
[18:17] <fatjon> ubntu dont show the computer clok on the top right of the schren.
[18:17] <vith> mastro: sure seems to be considering what you're asking for
[18:17] <mastro> DJones, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList/EOL - and the PC will NOT have internet, not will need any update or software after I set it up.
[18:17] <mastro> DJones, I just need internet to set it up. nothing more.
[18:18] <DJones> fatjon: Open a terminal window and try "killall unity-panel-service" I had to use that the other day to get the clock back
[18:19] <DJones> mastro: ok, good luck, but as has been mentioned, its no longer a supported release and doesn't get support in the ubuntu channels
[18:21] <fatjon> DJones. thenks now it ok
[18:21] <mastro> DJones, I got it.
[18:22] <mastro> DJones, but I still hope someone to pop up and help
[18:22] <andyfied> mastro: i doubt anyone can remember how to support it
[18:23] <mastro> andyfied, actually I can compile the driver on my own... but I would have to install make headers etc... which bring back the issue: I need internet
[18:24] <mastro> andyfied, currently the only thing I tough about is to move the hard drive in some external USB (which I do not have for IDE drive) and chroot in the system
[18:25] <mastro> andyfied, or manually find every single .deb copy over to the USB stick and bring it in the PC both are far from good solutions to me
[18:25] <andyfied> the driver for that is here http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800usb
[18:25] <andyfied> if that helps
[18:26] <yash069> mastro: search for proprietary drivers for that usb wifi card on manufactures site
[18:26] <munz> SrRaven: yes they continue
[18:27] <DannyDoe> Fuck i hate Unity
[18:27] <bekks> DannyDoe: Watch your language please.
[18:27] <yash069> DannyDoe: language!
[18:28] <imghost> !language | dannydoe
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> DannyDoe  you're free to not use it
[18:28] <yash069> mastro: try out ##linux, C if someone could help u there
[18:29] <DannyDoe> i guess i am in the  wrong room
[18:29] <DannyDoe> why  are you all in there anyways????
[18:29] <such_coins> I'm on Xubuntu, and chrome is muted. Nothing else is. Can anyone help me?
[18:30] <pulsar78> you mad bro ;)
[18:30] <mastro> thanks yash069
[18:30] <knightshade> such_coins: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[18:30] <mastro> yash069, the drivers are there and they are not proprietary, they are open source which means I have to compile them
[18:30] <such_coins> knightshade, yes
[18:31] <such_coins> knightshade, I even restarted my computer
[18:31] <Calinou> mastro, they can be shipped pre-compiled
[18:31] <[[thufir]]> upstart says to make "odd" job run:   http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#if-job-is-not-currently-running  which sounds like what I want.  However, where do I define what "odd" is?  where to I put the job itself?
[18:32] <knightshade> such_coins: I'd use firefox :>
[18:32] <Calinou> knightshade, or chromium
[18:32] <Calinou> chrome is evil
[18:32] <such_coins> knightshade, lol that's always an option... but I need chrome for a web game I play
[18:32] <such_coins> I guess I could use chromium
[18:32] <pulsar78> Calinou: id love to hear why
[18:32] <DannyDoe> does Xubuntu have the privacy setting as unity dose?????
[18:32] <such_coins> Either way, I'd like to fix whatever this problem is
[18:33] <Calinou> DannyDoe, no
[18:33] <Calinou> it respects your privacy
[18:33] <havv> is there a known issue with the flash plugin on 13.10?
[18:33] <DannyDoe> That very good to know thanks
[18:34] <yash069> such_coins: go to chrome://plugins
[18:34] <such_coins> and?
[18:34] <yash069> disable the old flash version
[18:34] <such_coins> I should mention I've been using chrome for a week with no problems
[18:35] <such_coins> This just started yesterday
[18:35] <yash069> there should be two version of flash
[18:35] <yash069> disable the old one
[18:35] <ROPA> havv, noit sure if it's known or not, but 13.10 xubuntu and 13.10 gnome both share many issues, including the flash issue-instability.
[18:35] <such_coins> Only one
[18:35] <such_coins> there's only one
[18:35] <havv> ROPA: I kinda can't install it at all
[18:36] <knightshade> such_coins: any updates installed yesterday?
[18:36] <such_coins> no
[18:36] <ROPA> I have not had issues installing them, just instability when trying to use them. I had to give up on 13.10 xubuntu
[18:36] <yash069> such_coins: click on details
[18:37] <ROPA> havv I have not had issues installing them, just instability when trying to use them. I had to give up on 13.10 xubuntu
[18:37] <DannyDoe> test
[18:37] <havv> ROPA: did you go back to 13.04?
[18:37] <such_coins> yash069, I don't see anything
[18:37] <imghost> Havv, paste the the output of dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-installer
[18:38] <havv> nothing
[18:38] <havv> imghost: nothing
[18:39] <imghost> Havv, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:39] <ROPA> havv I have about 5 different systems and I'm running tests on 13.10 unity and 13.04 unity now............I ran 13.04 xubuntu for a long time and never had a serious issue with it.
[18:39] <DannyDoe> test
[18:40] <such_coins> since this just started yesterday, there's a possibility I just accidentally clicked something
[18:40] <such_coins> But I don't know what that might be
[18:40] <ROPA> 13.04 wil soon be unsupported, a damn shame since it's replacement runs so poorly.
[18:40] <such_coins> I wasn't messing with system settings or anyththing
[18:40] <imghost> Havv, ???
[18:41] <ROPA> havv 13.04 wil soon be unsupported, a damn shame since it's replacement runs so poorly.
[18:41] <havv> imghost: ii  flashplugin-installer                <IP_ADDRESS>2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>              i386         Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[18:41] <DannyDoe> test
[18:41] <havv> ROPA: I used Xubuntu for some time, but it was really unstable, I got crash reports all the time and I couldn't set Chromium as the default browser
[18:42] <imghost> Havv, check now open any flash site
[18:42] <ROPA> havv interesting, you mean 13.04 xubuntu had issues???
[18:43] <havv> imghost: same :#
[18:43] <knightshade> such_coins: have you tried if it works with a different game?
[18:43] <Calinou> ROPA, its replacement is fine
[18:43] <such_coins> I've tried html5 audio and flash audio on multiple sites
[18:43] <havv> ROPA: I tried both, I've uninstalled 13.10 yesterday
[18:44] <Calinou> 13.04 fanboys are not welcome here
[18:44] <Calinou> and enjoy your lack of support
[18:44] <imghost> Havv, please paste the full output of dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-installer paste it at paste.ubuntu.com
[18:45] <ROPA> calinou interesting, I though everyone had issues with 13,10 xubuntu!!! It's a disaster on my desktop and 2 laptops.
[18:45] <Calinou> I messed up a laptop running xubuntu today, but that's not due to 13.10
[18:45] <Calinou> can't have sudo on any of the accounts
[18:45] <havv> imghost: it's just the single line I've already posted
[18:46] <ROPA> calinou interesting, I though everyone had issues with 13,10 xubuntu!!! It's a disaster on my desktop and 2 laptops.
[18:47] <tpw_rules> hey all. i just upgraded my os from 12.04 to 12.10 and now grub has no entries in it except for memtest
[18:47] <imghost> Havv, then try to manually install it from adobe
[18:47] <ROPA> calinou 13.04 xubuntu runs circles around 13.10-sorry, I guess I'm a 13.04 fanboy-kill me now::>
[18:48] <Calinou> have fun being unsupported
[18:48] <havv> imghost: it didn't work, it was the first thing I tried
[18:48] <tpw_rules> so where did grub hide all my operating systems?
[18:48] <havv> imghost: @There isn’t a software package called “adobe-flashplugin” in your current software sources.@
[18:49] <ROPA> calinou I will, ty to you-I've never met anyone with 13,10 xubuntu that runs well....my nephew and brother report problems with 13.10 too.
[18:49] <havv> what why are the keys for " and @ have switched?!
[18:50] <tpw_rules> okay, i have a live cd, how do i make grub rebuild the boot menu list?
[18:50] <tpw_rules> it's version 1.98
[18:50] <havv> there is something wrong with my keyboard layout :/
[18:50] <havv> I think I'll go back to elementary OS it gave me the least amount of trouble
[18:51] <knightshade> such_coins: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#Resetting_User_Configuration
[18:52] <ROPA> havv if you have the computing power to run unity, try 13.10 unity-it runs on my desktop, I'm trying it in 2 laptops right after the holidays.
[18:52] <SmallJoker> Hello,
[18:52] <havv> ROPA: nah, I have a 5yo laptop
[18:53] <havv> ROPA: I've been using 13.10 Unity for 3 months but its sluggishness got the better of me
[18:53] <Hounddog> hi, i am running ubuntu 13.10 but having problems when shutting down/restarting it is just hangin there and i have to hard reset at some point... any pointers where i should get started checking on this?
[18:54] <ROPA> havv i noticed it seems to go to sleep quite often-no processor load, no harddrive activity, nothing being downloaded.
[18:54] <SmallJoker> I got a problem with the ndiswrapper app, it says "module missing". Can someone help me?
[18:55] <Jordan_U> SmallJoker: What wireless card do you have? NDISwrapper is almost never the best solution these days.
[18:55] <ROPA> hounddog can't help u with the failure to shut down.
[18:56] <SmallJoker> I've a USRobotics MaxG, number 5417
[18:56] <Guest49905> :)
[18:57] <Hounddog> well i will check and shutdown via terminal maybee i can get an answer there
[18:59] <pvl1> im getting an error from installing proprietary drivers. they return that they were not able to remove a dkms module. is it possible to list all dkms modules so i can remove them by hand
[19:00] <SmallJoker> Jordan_U: Can you help me with my problem?
[19:01] <knightshade> SmallJoker: could you pastebin the output of lspci?
[19:01] <SmallJoker> okay..please wait
[19:03] <SmallJoker> http://pastebin.com/BqS3Pcws
[19:04] <SmallJoker> It says "Broadcom" but it's written as "USRobotics" on the PCI card
[19:04] <evilbug> anyone elese having issues with skype on 13.04?
[19:06] <knightshade> SmallJoker: you need the b43 module
[19:07] <SmallJoker> a..what? sorry, I started ith ubuntu today
[19:07] <knightshade> SmallJoker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:07] <ice9> what is the best sip application?
[19:07] <Guest47049> ma ta gaaaaaaaa
[19:08] <SmallJoker> Thank you imghost and knightshade, I'll try that :)
[19:08] <KI7MT> pvl1, dkms status should list the modules it has built. Have a look at man dlms for additional options.
[19:10] <Jumpie> hey guys...silly question, just setup 13.0 desktop and nowhere in the setup did it ask me for root password config...is there some default password?
[19:11] <Jumpie> ah, nm
[19:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I have a pdf file which I can not view with document viewer and it needs adobe. Does anybody know what should I do if I do not want to use adobe?
[19:11] <mojtaba> Is there any other alternative?
[19:14] <pvl1> KI7MT: thank you
[19:15] <imghost> mojtaba, you can use foxit reader
[19:16] <KI7MT> mojtaba, therea re allot of options, which is best is up to you. Just to name a few: ePDFViewer, MuPDF, Okular etc
[19:19] <pvl1> !pdf
[19:19] <kostkon> mojtaba, open it with adobe reader then
[19:20] <mojtaba> KI7MT: It seems the sender of the pdf file has embedded some files in the pdf file and okular can not show them. Do you know if the others are better or not? or do they work?
[19:20] <KI7MT> He said he doesn't want to install / use Adobe
[19:20] <kostkon> oh
[19:21] <imghost> mojtaba, try foxit reader
[19:21] <KI7MT> mojtaba, No I do not know, I use Adobe 99.9% of the time, I listed the others as you indicated you did not want to use it for whatever reason.
[19:24] <pvl1> doesnt chrome open pdf
[19:24] <kostkon> pvl1, even ffox does now
[19:24] <pvl1> figured thanks kostkon
[19:26] <[[thufir]]> I've read a good chunk of the upstart manual, but can't figure out where to put a stanza to start a job..?
[19:28] <ztane> what is the best way to now override 1 key in Unity/X11, I need to map capslock to <>, well sort of works using xmodmap, but resets whenever I change language from the toolbar..
[19:29] <ztane> toolbar = tray
[19:30] <ztane> /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev?
[19:32] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], the upstart cookbook walks through examples: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/   .. you could also use one of the existing upstart scripts and modify it or fondsomeone to write it for you.
[19:33] <KI7MT> find someone ..
[19:33] <[[thufir]]> see, where is an existing script, though?
[19:34] <[[thufir]]> I looked through that cookbook, I don't see where/which file to put any of that stuff.
[19:34] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], /etc/init.d   ... there's loads of them.
[19:35] <[[thufir]]> I was looking in /etc/init
[19:36] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], probable want to use something simple like, networking, apparmor, apache2 (if installed), ntp etc.
[19:36] <induz>    is there somethign like TweetDeck on Ubuntu
[19:36] <induz> live online moitter
[19:36] <[[thufir]]> I was looking at the networking
[19:37] <KI7MT> [[thufir]], find one that has at least four actions, start, stop, restart, status
[19:40] <Ekkonanto> Привет Всем!!!
[19:40] <KI7MT> !ru
[19:41] <Ekkonanto> Хорошо, спасибо!
[19:42] <verdes> I am using usb 3G modem to connect to internet. can I share the internet connection using laptop's wifi card?
[19:44] <andywilkie> hello , how do I upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 from 13.10 please ?
[19:45] <ztane> andywilkie: easiest to wait 5 months and accept when asked ;)
[19:46] <[[thufir]]> KI7MT: I dunno, I was looking at whoopsie, but...
[19:46] <pdg1> The other day I was trying to fix my laptops wifi. and as far as I can tell, I'm doing everything correctly according to the help.ubuntu wifidocs
[19:46] <andywilkie> ztane :- ok thank you :o)
[19:47] <pdg1> 0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[19:47] <ztane> andywilkie: you can expect lots of problems before 2014-04
[19:48] <SrRaven> So, I want to install a software
[19:48] <SrRaven> software suggests it goes into /obt/Xilinx
[19:48] <SrRaven> it says "could not create destination path"
[19:48] <ztane> SrRaven: that would be /opt
[19:48] <SrRaven> yeah meant that
[19:48] <ztane> and it might be bc you do not have the /opt
[19:48] <ztane> at all
[19:48] <ztane> sudo mkdir /opt
[19:49] <SrRaven> yeah didnt open it with sudo
[19:49] <SrRaven> herp derp
[19:49] <ztane> aha
[19:49] <ztane> and I seem to have an opt on my empty install so that could  not be the fault eiter
[19:50] <ztane> *either
[19:50] <SrRaven> now the software wont install cause it says unable to open archive
[19:50] <SrRaven> poopi
[19:50] <andywilkie> ztane :- ok thank you , il have a play anyway :o)
[19:52] <no_gravity> Hello from Germany! tightvnc locked me out. Probably because of too many failed login attempts. I still can ssh into the box. Do you guys think there is a way to reset the tightvnc login-attempt-counter or something?
[19:53] <sgfg> can i run ubuntu on alienware?
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> what's alineware?
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> what's alienware?
[19:54] <KI7MT> sgfg, yes
[19:54] <bekks> MonkeyDust: A notebook vendor bought by Dell a few years ago.
[19:54] <KI7MT> MonkeyDust, Over priced gammign boxes
[19:54] <bekks> sgfg: "Yes".
[19:54] <sgfg> as vm
[19:55] <sgfg> its not over priced
[19:55] <KI7MT> sgfg, hardware is hardware, the name of the machine has little to do with whether the hw is supported or not.
[19:55] <bekks> sgfg: they are overpriced, heavily.
[19:56] <sgfg> hardware matters at some point
[19:56] <sgfg> looking at the graphics cards
[19:56] <sgfg> may not have the drives
[19:56] <bekks> sgfg: the answer to your initial question still is "yes".
[19:57] <mattintech> no_gravity: you could restart tightvncserver to reset the counter if you can ssh in.
[19:57] <sgfg> so no probes to encounter with the drivers
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> sgfg  try a live usb or dvd, first
[19:57] <no_gravity> mattintech: that would kill my x session
[19:58] <sgfg> makes sense MonkeyDust
[19:59] <mattintech> no_gravity: yes it would.
[19:59] <no_gravity> mattintech: which i dont want
[19:59] <JohnnyL> How do you change the TX transmit power of your wireless connection in Ubuntu? If I don't plug in power for the laptop the connection terminates.
[20:00] <no_gravity> mattintech: so i will install x11vnc and use it to connect to the existing x session. dont know a better way.
[20:00] <JohnnyL> worked fine in windows 8.
[20:01] <ayiga> hi
[20:01] <ayiga> i've a problem
[20:01] <ayiga> someone can help me
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> ayiga  start with a question
[20:02] <JohnnyL> also how do you upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10?
[20:02] <sgfg> JohnnyL read the forums pls
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> JohnnyL  do-release-upgrade
[20:02] <no_gravity> ayiga: whats your problem?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> sgfg  that's not polite, the guy is asking for help
[20:03] <JohnnyL> monkeydust: what is that?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> JohnnyL  a way to upgrade to the next release
[20:04] <ayiga> i've one problem with my ubuntu 12.04 when i install compiz
[20:04] <sgfg> MonkeyDust that question was noobish
[20:04] <JohnnyL> okay great.
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> sgfg  we all used to be beginners
[20:04] <JohnnyL> thank you so much MonkeyDust.
[20:04] <bekks> sgfg: This channel is for helping every one. You, him, others.
[20:04]  * sgfg bows
[20:06] <mattintech> JohnnyL: sudo iwconfig <interface> txpower #
[20:06] <jan_> hi all. Is there somebody that knows how to remap the capslock key on ubuntu 13.10? Im having trouble doing it, after changing the keyboard layout it stops working
[20:06] <mattintech> replace <infterface> with wlan0 or what ever your interace name is
[20:07] <mattintech> no_gravity: yeah, i don't know of a way that you could reset the coutner while the process is running.
[20:07] <JohnnyL> mattintech: perfect thank you so much.
[20:07] <JohnnyL> MonkeyDust: updating!
[20:07] <mattintech> no_gravity: just restarting it..
[20:08] <no_gravity> mattintech: as i said, i cannot restart it.
[20:09] <ayiga> someone how to install call of duty on ubuntu 12.04
[20:09] <ayiga> someone know how to install call of duty on ubuntu 12.04????
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> ayiga  is that a windows game? if yes, check !appdb
[20:10] <imghost> Ayiga, usr steam
[20:10] <jan_> did u check winehq?
[20:10] <no_gravity> ayiga: sorry, i dont know.
[20:10] <jan_> its a shitty game none the less:D
[20:10] <jan_> let me google it for u, whats the title of the call of duty that u want to install?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> jan_  you too, stay polite pease
[20:11] <jan_> mate i am polite, im simply telling my opinion of the quality of the game. its bad.
[20:11] <KI7MT> ayiga, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ubuntu+Install+COD
[20:12] <faryshta> hi, how can I  send files using pidgin on yahoo msn?
[20:13] <lickalott> LOL @ KI7MT @ LMGTFY
[20:13] <Calinou> don't use lmgtfy
[20:13] <Calinou> faryshta, I don't think you can
[20:13] <Calinou> tell people to use better protocols
[20:13] <lickalott> why Calinou
[20:13] <jan_> Nobody here that remapped keys in 13.10? setxbkmap works one time then it gets messed up and i have to reset and do it again and xmodmap doesnt work at all :/
[20:14] <bekks> Calinou: Of course you can run COD on Ubuntu.
[20:14] <Calinou> I wasn't talking about COD
[20:14] <Calinou> lickalott, because 1) it wastes the time of people 2) it uses Google
[20:14] <jan_> trin2>cod and its running "native" with steam:D
[20:14] <lickalott> honestly the only thing that separates "us" from the people asking questions is our google-fu.  And I think it adds a sense of humor to the whole thing
[20:15] <faryshta> is there a yahoo client for ubuntu that let me do file transfer?
[20:16] <jan_> why would u want to transfer files 90s style?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> !im | faryshta
[20:16] <jan_> !kopete
[20:16] <Calinou> jan_, it's not 90s style, it's non-proprietary style
[20:17] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, I have empathy installed. Everytime I click f4 I get the system configuration window for xfce instead of the account configuration window for empathy
[20:17] <lilred> hey guys, I'd like to create a .deb package but I don't know how, can someone link me to the relevant documentation?
[20:17] <jan_> i dont mind using dropbox to transfer files or email or irc
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> lilred  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html
[20:18] <jan_> damn too slow:D
[20:19] <tpw_rules> hey. having issues getting grub to work again. booted off a livecd, ran update-grub, and it failed to get the canonical path of /cow
[20:19] <jan_> guys how can i move the messages from irc to another window? im using xchat
[20:19] <lilred> Thank you MonkeyDust!
[20:19] <jan_> tpw did u follow the wiki?
[20:19] <lickalott> jan_: what do you mean?
[20:19] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, how can I add new accounts on empathy?
[20:20] <tpw_rules> jan_: what wiki page would that be?
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  idk, never used it myself
[20:20] <jan_> i want to have stuff like who entered and left to be in a different window as the actual talk. havent used irc for years
[20:21] <Wubix> sorry guys, but where does the bug report go to when i run ubuntu-bug? i see no log and nothing
[20:21] <lickalott> are they annoying?  I just surpressed mine.  I'm not sure if you can do that.
[20:21] <lickalott> (what you're talking about)
[20:21] <jan_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[20:21] <kostkon> Wubix, launchpad.net
[20:21] <jan_> i used some of the german wiki but i guess that does the same. mount stuff to /media, chroot into it, update-grub
[20:22] <jan_> how can i adress a person directly, its not @ isnt it?:D
[20:22] <Wubix> kostkon: anonymously??
[20:22] <bekks> jan_: Just type his/her name in front of what you want to say.
[20:22] <jan_> bekks thank you
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> jan_  msg person text
[20:23] <KI7MT> Wubix, ubuntu-bug info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> jan_  /msg person text <-- but ask first if you can
[20:23] <lickalott> or /msg <nick> or /query <nick> jan_
[20:23] <kostkon> Wubix, hmm if you are not already logged in i'd say anonymously yes
[20:23] <jan_> i want to get the name: text thing i dont want to send a message sry if i made u misunderstand:D
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> jan_: try tab after hitting the first few letters
[20:24] <Wubix> KI7MT: that is a ton to read :(
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> jan_  you mean tab completion?
[20:24] <faryshta> is there a yahoo client for ubuntu that let me do file transfer?
[20:24] <lickalott> faryshta, why?
[20:25] <Wubix> kostkon: ok, thanks
[20:25] <faryshta> lickalott, why what?
[20:25] <andywilkie>  aww  ubuntu 14.04 is unpacking friends , i do like the name of some stuff lol :o)
[20:25] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | andywilkie
[20:26] <lickalott> why yahoo specifically?
[20:26] <lickalott> does that have LTS or is 12.04 "it" for a while?
[20:26] <andywilkie> sorry I am easily amused :o)
[20:26] <andywilkie> thank you SchrodingersScat
[20:27] <bjoern_> test
[20:27] <jan_> 14.04=lts
[20:27] <faryshta> lickalott, i have many friends on yahoo. i don't think my reasons are relevant
[20:28] <jan_> faryshta you could always create a dropbox account for your friends and you or use some irc channel
[20:28] <faryshta> jan_, I need yahoo messenger.
[20:29] <lickalott> if you were just looking for file transfer I was going to suggest other options.  If you are using something yahoo specific obviously my opinions wouldn't matter.  That's why I was asking.
[20:29] <faryshta> my friends are not tech savy
[20:29] <kostkon> faryshta, just give them the link to click on, be it a dropbox or even ubuntu one url
[20:30] <faryshta> kostkon, no thanks.
[20:30] <kostkon> faryshta, i don't think it's that hard
[20:30] <kostkon> faryshta, ok then
[20:31] <jan_> hmm i used some google and it seems that file transfer is still a problem over yahoo, it was years ago already so if theres no fix im not to sure that it can be fixed easily(bad protocol)
[20:31] <designbybeck> Do you still have to use somethign like gksu nautilus instead of sudo nautilus to launch it with root access?
[20:32] <jan_> sudo nautilus worked for me but terminal>nautilus:D
[20:32] <designbybeck> jan_,  I know it works, but in the past there was reasoning against using it... just didn't know if that is still the case
[20:33] <designbybeck> I've never had any problems personally just doing sudo, but is that advised?
[20:33] <tpw_rules> okay now i've just upgraded and unity seems to not be launching
[20:33] <jan_> hmm it has to be late 90s with icq and i was a problem all the time:D
[20:34] <jan_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm  maybe?
[20:35] <tpw_rules> okay NOW my problem is i just upgraded and aticonfig can't detect my card
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  or use ubuntu one
[20:35] <jan_> tpw so you are at the terminal right now?
[20:35] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, how does that solves it?
[20:36] <tpw_rules> jan_: no, i have an approximation of a display. i see a background and my icons but no titlebar and there's black borders around it
[20:36] <tpw_rules> i can get into a terminal with ctrl+alt+f1
[20:36] <lickalott> faryshta, is it out of the question to have your "peeps" convert to gtalk/hangouts?
[20:36] <jan_> hmm maybe you should reinstall the drivers...fglrx thats the name isnt it?
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  it's a way to transfer / share files
[20:36] <Guest5965> no
[20:37] <lickalott> tpw_rules cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin it
[20:37] <Guest5965> lickalott  right
[20:37] <jan_> tpw dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ and setsid unity try this maybe its fixed by it. i hope i typed it right:D
[20:37] <tpw_rules> i can't really pastebin it
[20:38] <lickalott> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:38] <jan_> but mostly id reinstall your graphics driver
[20:38] <jan_> i dunno how for ati im totally fine with my intel gpu:D
[20:38] <lickalott> then cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit and shoot us the url
[20:38] <faryshta> lickalott, i tried it. didn't work
[20:39] <faryshta> MonkeyDust, i need yahoo messenger file transfer
[20:39] <tpw_rules> i'm getting a repeated error which says io error on fd0 about every 5 seconds and keeps writing over things
[20:39] <lickalott> you may be sol homey
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  yes, but maybe what you want does not exist or is not possible, so please don't reject everything else
[20:39] <jan_> tpw i guess that u just need to reset your configs so reinstall the driver with purge
[20:39] <lickalott> what is fd0?  hard drive, thumb drive? tpw_rules
[20:40] <lickalott> jan_ have you had him try and update?
[20:40] <tpw_rules> i think it's floppy drive, which i don't have
[20:40] <jan_> faryshta : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598530
[20:40] <lickalott> tpw_rules sudo fdisk -lu
[20:40] <KI7MT> tpw_rules, make sure it's disabled in the BIOS
[20:41] <tpw_rules> lemme fiddle around with that; i see the first 4 partitions of my hard drive then it stops
[20:41] <lickalott> stops as in doesn't complete the stdout?
[20:41] <tpw_rules> yes
[20:41] <jan_> tpw start with a reinstall of your driver. its the most common solution
[20:41] <jan_> u did upgrade fro 12.04 to 13.10?
[20:41] <lickalott> was this from an upgrade or a fresh install tpw_rules?
[20:41] <lickalott> rutt rooh.... if ^ is true
[20:42] <tpw_rules> upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[20:42] <lickalott> oh.
[20:42] <lickalott> maybe a simple fsck -y then reboot?
[20:42] <jan_> tpw did u make a backup of your files?
[20:42] <tpw_rules> i'm not concerned about that and worst case scenario i can pull the drive and reboot
[20:42] <tpw_rules> or rather attach it to another machine
[20:43] <faryshta> jan_, the problem was solved for gmail accounts.
[20:43] <jan_> sry faryshta its not looking like anybody solved it for yahoo, i did some google and no solutions:(
[20:43] <jan_> are u on lts or 13.10?
[20:44] <lickalott> so you're concerned with the graphics at this point (only) tpw_rules?
[20:44] <tpw_rules> you could say that
[20:44] <tpw_rules> okay, disabled the floppy in the bios, done with that
[20:44] <jan_> tpw there i no need to pull anything my point is that 12.10 is not a reasonable upgrade form lts if there is 13.10which has a lot of improvements and theres gonna be a new lts "soon"
[20:45] <tpw_rules> well my system doesn't work well enough to upgrade
[20:45] <tpw_rules> i needed to upgrade it to run a piece of software
[20:45] <jan_> Ah btw anybody here that has a solution to the chrome flash player crapping up the panel and "dock" after going full screen?
[20:46] <lickalott> i did that once tpw_rules.  THen figured since 12.10 wasn't LTS, I'd go with 13.04.  When I did that upgrade my entire filesystem was read-only after wards.
[20:46] <tpw_rules> huh, that's a bit bizarre
[20:46] <jan_> tpw im just curious, what did u need to run?:D
[20:46] <faryshta> jan_, yeah, I only come here after google fails me. Yes 13.10
[20:46] <tpw_rules> cgminer for litecoins
[20:46] <faryshta> jan_, also tried y!m + wine and doesn't work either
[20:47] <jan_> faryshta i know that its troublesome all the time, especially yahoo which i, im sorry, dont see the reason to use overall
[20:47] <jan_> i assume its working on windows?
[20:49] <dave87> Hello! I have a RH open client installed on my PC, with encrypted HDD. I would like to install ubuntu on external drive, while keeping the original installation, HDD and bootloader untouched. If anyone knows how to do that, please pm me, I have some more specific questions about this process
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> !pm | dave87
[20:50] <jan_> dave87 if u install the new grub on the second hdd it shouldnt touch the first one
[20:50] <aarossig> I have a laptop that is not capable of booting from USB, but has archlinux installed on it. I am switching to Mint, and I would prefer not to pull the hard drive out of it. Is there any way to chainload a USB boot? I am switching it to Mint.
[20:51] <bekks> aarossig: Ask the Mint support please. This is Ubuntu.
[20:51] <sidney_> Can Mate be installed on Ubuntu
[20:52] <Calinou> try not to
[20:52] <jan_> sidney mate is buggy, dont install it:)
[20:52] <Calinou> mate sucks, the end
[20:52] <Calinou> it's full of obsolete technologies for republicans
[20:53] <sidney_> I just trashed a debian install because I coundn't install graphics drivers
[20:53] <dave87> jan_ I was hoping that would do the trick. the other drive is NFTS, normally used with windows. Could that cause some trouble? (during Ubuntu installation it couldn't see how much empty space there is on the drive)
[20:53] <aarossig> sidney_: I use Mint with Mate at work doing embedded software development. It's not bad, but these days Cinnamon is quite nice.
[20:53] <SmallJoker> Has someone an idea how I could fix the following problem? Whenever I start Ubuntu, it keeps adjusting my screen and freezes/loops forever. But when I use an PCI card, then I got rid of that problem!?
[20:53] <jan_> if u need it slick use *box or xfce. end
[20:53] <dave87> jan_ i would only like to use some of the empty space on that drive for temporary ubuntu installation
[20:54] <sidney_> jan_ i like gnome2
[20:54] <mindstorm> i3 or bust
[20:54] <SchrodingersScat> sidney_: I did too, sidney_ , I did too.
[20:54] <jan_> sidney do whatever u like but mate is BUGGY. its not running as stable as maybe gnome2 did.
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> sidney_  fallback is very similar to gnome2
[20:54] <Calinou> aarossig, lol, embedded
[20:55] <aarossig> bekks: considering that Ubuntu and Mint are so similar (especially in the lower layers like booting) I am hoping someone can provide advice on booting to USB
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> !fallback | sidney_
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> !classic | sidney_
[20:55] <SrRaven> how do I open a program with sudo ?!
[20:55] <SrRaven> I need to extract something from a tar
[20:55] <Calinou> use "sudo"
[20:55] <SchrodingersScat> SrRaven: try adding sudo before it?
[20:55] <Calinou> ...you answered your own question
[20:55] <SrRaven> but I open the command in a gui
[20:55] <SchrodingersScat> SrRaven: gksudo
[20:55] <aarossig> Calinou: laugh all you want.. but I can take processors from reset to main(), that's powerful stuff
[20:56] <mindstorm> gksudo
[20:56] <Calinou> cool story
[20:56] <tpw_rules> lickalott: paste.ubuntu.com/6613588
[20:57] <sebsebseb> aarossig: bekks of course Ubuntu and Mint are similar ,  Mint is based on it that's why. about 95% Ubuntu with some other changes including the branding and a few of it's own programs
[20:57] <bekks> sebsebseb: Mint isnt supported in here.
[20:57] <tpw_rules> jan_: reinstalling didn't fix it
[20:57] <sebsebseb> bekks: yep
[20:57] <BluesKaj> aarossig, no cderom ?
[20:58] <jan_> mint is ubuntu without the great unity features and without the history of being slow even though its not slow anymore:D
[20:58] <aarossig> BluesKaj: unfortunately, no. It is a toughbook.
[20:58] <jan_> tpw im sorry thats as much as i can do over irc. im not experienced with ati gpu and linux
[20:58] <Calinou> jan_, there are other ubuntu derivative SUPPORTED here
[20:58] <sebsebseb> bekks: oh I see you said to that person to go to Mint,  scrolled up
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Calinou: jan_ offical  Canonical supported dervatives yeah e.g.  Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Lubuntu,  and  the GNOME Remix as well I think
[20:59] <aarossig> BluesKaj: I pulled the harddrive a few months back to install archlinux on it, but I don't have the time to keep an arch system running smoothly anymore. I'm thinking that since I already have a full distro, it should (in theory) be easy to boot from USB
[21:00] <tpw_rules> lickalott: you gone?
[21:00] <jan_> you can simply dd the image on the usb
[21:00] <jan_> for windows theres tools like yumix or i dunno how its called:D
[21:00] <tpw_rules> unetbootin
[21:01] <KI7MT> Good luck with dd in Windows :-)
[21:01] <Pacy_> jan_, it's Yumi not yumix
[21:02] <JJJ12345> Hi
[21:02] <BluesKaj> aarossig, how old is the machine, most less tehn 3 tra old have usb boot capability , just neds to be enable in the uefi / bios
[21:02] <Pacy_> JJJ12345, hi
[21:02] <JJJ12345> I'm trying to edit source of Heimdall
[21:02] <JJJ12345> I have a fix here: https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall/commit/e0e84b2f7a28bd188f104f51a845dc4ed8a9b7ea
[21:02] <JJJ12345> How exactly do I do that?
[21:02] <aarossig> BluesKaj: it's ancient, Pentium III circa 2000 or something like that
[21:02] <BluesKaj> oops let me turn some lights on
[21:03] <jan_> dd if of
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> where: if=input file, of=output file
[21:04] <tpw_rules> remember kids, DD stands for data destroyer
[21:05] <bekks> tpw_rules: Its like a weapon. dd doesnt detroy data, people destroy data.
[21:05] <JJJ12345> Hi, I'm trying to edit source of Heimdall, because there's a fix here: https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall/commit/e0e84b2f7a28bd188f104f51a845dc4ed8a9b7ea
[21:05] <JJJ12345> How do I approach this?
[21:05] <KI7MT> bekks, indeed, people destroy  data with DD .. make sense to me :-)
[21:05] <tpw_rules> bekks: but it's a helll of a lot easier to shoot yourself in the foot when you've got a gun
[21:06] <bekks> tpw_rules: then arrest the weapon, it might want to shoot your foot.
[21:06] <tpw_rules> i'm not having this debate again
[21:06] <jan_> i could post some destroying dd but i wont, somebody trys it everytime:D
[21:06] <Pacy_> MonkeyDust, connect with JJJ12345  please , I surrendered//
[21:06] <Beldar> dd=dumb decision
[21:06] <andyfied> no way. rappers destroy data
[21:07] <KI7MT> You can train to correct ignorance, but there's no cure for the Galaticly Stupid
[21:07] <Copter> Hey how do i read root mail forgot the command :p
[21:07] <JJJ12345> Pacy_: ?
[21:08] <Pacy_> JJJ12345, No I was trying to connect u to MonkeyDust ->
[21:09] <jan_> dd=awesome decicion
[21:09] <KI7MT> Copter, mail -f  ... see man mail
[21:09] <JJJ12345> Oh
[21:09] <jan_> you could try sudo rm rf / that should copy usb files too...
[21:09] <SchrodingersScat> !danger | jan_
[21:10] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: It wasnt even a command.
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> or did i miss part of the conversation?
[21:10] <jan_> all i wanted to do is show thats its no subject to dd, rm does the same
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> bekks: oh, missing the - ?
[21:10] <ubuntu> timp0sey
[21:10] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: It would make a command even with -
[21:11] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: wouldnt
[21:12] <knightshade> the hyphen is missing before "rf" and it doesn't work without --no-preserve-root :-)
[21:12] <Guest62669> Sorry, my system crashed and I have it running with a live disk, now I want to copy my files to a backup drive, but cannot because of the permissions issue, I am trying to change this but do not know the username and password that is employed while running from live disk or is that necessary
[21:13] <jan_> passwd
[21:14] <jan_> sry, sudo passwd
[21:15] <loa> who is will robinson?
[21:15] <loa> from where is it?
[21:15] <atma111> Hi all need help ubuntu server someone speaks Spanish
[21:17] <jan_> loa its from lost in space
[21:17] <knightshade> atma111: no, yo no hablo espanol.
[21:17] <loa> jan_, yeah i googled that)
[21:17] <KI7MT> loa, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger,_Will_Robinson
[21:17] <knightshade> !es | atma111
[21:17] <timposey> my system crashed and I have it running with a live disk, now I want to copy my files to a backup drive, but cannot because of the permissions issue, I am trying to change this but do not know the username and password that is employed while running from live disk or is that necessary
[21:17] <atma111> T.T
[21:18] <bekks> timposey: sudo cp ?
[21:18] <jan_> timposey if u need to set a password do sudo passwd
[21:20] <atma111> thx
[21:20] <knightshade> atma111: de nada :>
[21:20] <bekks> jan_: Never ever do sudo passwd.
[21:20] <bekks> !root | jan_
[21:20] <atma111> can divide the internet speed in my local network?
[21:20] <jan_> bekks: he is on the live cd and he wants to set a password...i dont want to
[21:21] <bekks> jan_: and sudo passwd is the wrong approach.
[21:21] <Calinou> atma111, wondershaper
[21:21] <jan_> i know that i can go sudo su without the need of a root password:D
[21:22] <bekks> jan_: sudo su is wrong, too. USe sudo -i
[21:22] <jan_> atma your router can do that
[21:22] <jan_> bekks: whats the difference? both work, sudo su works on other systems too
[21:22] <Calinou> my router can't do that
[21:23] <Calinou> not all of them can
[21:23] <bekks> jan_: Just because something works, it doesnt make it more sensible.
[21:23] <atma111> wondershaper is better than squid3 ?
[21:23] <jan_> bekks so whats the difference?
[21:23] <bekks> atma111: wondershaper is a firewall tool, squid3 is a proxy server.
[21:24] <timposey> bkks, jan_: thanks so do I or don't I
[21:25] <bekks> jan_: The difference is, that sudo asks for the user password, executes su, which, as root, doesnt ask for a password. The same thing, "ask for the user password and give the user a root shell" is done by sudo -i
[21:25] <atma111> I have a cyber 8pc, I have an old pc
[21:25] <atma111> I need to make a server
[21:25] <jan_> bekks so if the same thing is done its the same with the same amount of keystrokes:D
[21:26] <bekks> jan_: your approach needs more keystrokes.
[21:26] <jan_> sudo-su
[21:26] <jan_> sudosu
[21:26] <jan_> sudo-i
[21:26] <bekks> jan_: "sudo su" vs. "sudo -i"
[21:26] <jan_> its the same amount of characters;)
[21:27] <bekks> jan_: Nontheless, your approach isnt sensible.
[21:27] <Beldar> jan_, I believe the difference in ubuntu is the level of root, IE what gets rooted.
[21:27] <bekks> Beldar: Technically not, both get you root environment.
[21:27] <jan_> and i bet they both do it the same way
[21:27] <Beldar> a permissions difference
[21:27] <bekks> jan_: No, they dont. I told you the difference.
[21:28] <totesmuhgoats> hi folks
[21:28] <totesmuhgoats> how can i see what different java packages i have installed?
[21:28] <bekks> Beldar: No, same permissions. Different, not sensible way of getting them when using sudo su
[21:28] <jan_> im not talking sudo -i vs su im talking sudo su vs sudo -i
[21:28] <bekks> jan_: Me too. I explained the difference to you and why your approacgh isnt sensible.
[21:29] <jan_> u said they do the same or did i misread it?:D
[21:29] <Beldar> bekks, Cool I have just seen it explained by different permissions.
[21:29] <bekks> Beldar: The permissions granted are the same.
[21:29] <bekks> jan_: You did misread.
[21:29] <jan_> yes so is there some safety issue with sudo su?
[21:29] <Beldar> does not matter to me but thanks
[21:30] <bekks> jan_: They do different things with the same result, which is a big difference to "they do the same".
[21:30] <ip> mdam
[21:30] <Guest80040> hallo all
[21:30] <jan_> hmm i guess im just used to the old fashioned su way so i didnt think about changing my aproach
[21:31] <jan_> does sudo -i work on all systems with sudo or is it some debian/ubuntu thing?
[21:31] <bekks> jan_: It works for every sudo.
[21:31] <Guest80040> i am new hire
[21:31] <Guest80040> name ?
[21:32] <Guest80040> hm
[21:33] <timposey> bekks jan_:  So I changed the password but when I use the chown -R it is saying that I have a invalid group can either of you help out with that?
[21:33] <KI7MT> New Hire or New here ?
[21:33] <Guest80040> eeegal
[21:33] <jan_> alright found it, if i do sudo su i wont get logged by sudo anymore while i will with sudu -i
[21:33] <bekks> timposey: Which password did you change, and which exact command are you using for "chown -R"? what are the missing arguments?
[21:34] <bekks> jan_: thats another implication.
[21:34] <KI7MT> jan_, sudo -E su   .. shoudl keep the users env
[21:34] <jan_> bekks : to me thats a reason to use sudo -i that i can tell people.thx for stumbling me on it, its nice to know
[21:37] <Guest80040> jajajja
[21:39] <jan_> Another try: Does anybody know a fix to the chrome flashplayer messing up the unity UI after leaving fullscreen video? ofc it reverts after like 20sec but its annoying. Doesn occur with firefox
[21:39] <timposey> I was using sudo chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu /media/ubuntu/Storage but in the second ubuntu I put password which I had just put in using sudo -i and the passwd command
[21:40] <bekks> timposey: I dont get that "in the second", etc. - which command did you run?
[21:42] <timposey> I was using sudo chown -R ubuntu:passwd /media/ubuntu/Storage
[21:42] <jan_> did u try the easy way using gksu nautlus?
[21:42] <timposey> bekks: I was using sudo chown -R ubuntu:passwd /media/ubuntu/Storage
[21:43] <bekks> timposey: Do you have a group "passwd" - if not, you will get an error message.
[21:43] <jhutchins> timposey: You don't, that's why it gave you an invalid group error.
[21:44] <timposey> bekks, jhutchins:   ok, I read something wrong, I thought that is were the password went.
[21:45] <timposey> bekks, jhutchins: so back to my original question what is the username when I am working from a live disk?
[21:46] <bekks> timposey: the groupname is of interest.
[21:47] <bekks> timposey: you already know the username.
[21:47] <bekks> timposey: and for chown -R, the groupname is optional.
[21:48] <timposey> bekks: thanks I got it
[21:50] <YEP> Hi everybody
[21:51] <balsaq> hi yep, welcome to ubuntu
[21:51] <greylurk> Hey, I accidentally zapped my /etc/fstab.  Is there a good way to regenerate it, or should I just rebuild it by hand?
[21:52] <YEP> When i shut my computer down by clicking shutdown it takes forever to shutdown c
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> greylurk  "zapped"?
[21:52] <jan_> did u reboot after killing the fstab or are u still in the sys?
[21:52] <greylurk> I'm still in the system.  I catted /dev/null over it effectively.
[21:53] <jan_> half an hour earlier i got told dd was dangerous, so cat is as bad:D
[21:53] <YEP>
[21:54] <jan_> you can start with cat /proc/mounts and then grep the info u need to rebuild it
[21:54] <bekks> jan_: or you just use grep instead of cat.
[21:55] <jan_> sure
[21:57] <Beldar> YEP, shutdown c is this a wubi install or a shutdown of windows?
[21:58] <YEP> I didn't mean to put the c Beldar and i am using ubunti
[21:58] <Beldar> YEP, how long exactly is the shutdown?
[21:59] <YEP> Ubuntu so try
[21:59] <YEP> Sorry
[21:59] <YEP> At least 8 hours
[21:59] <bekks> YEP: then your computer just doesnt turn off.
[22:00] <YEP> Pretty much bekks i have to manually shut it down
[22:00] <bekks> YEP: Thats most likely a bug in your BIOS ACPI implementation when not running Windows.
[22:00] <widad> please i need help. i can't get connected to my online games in ubuntu and neither can surf on internet correctly. but with windows it does correctly.what should i do?
[22:01] <YEP> Okay
[22:01] <jan_> widad do u use wifi or lan?
[22:01] <bekks> LAN over Wifi maybe. :)
[22:01] <widad> jan_, wifi
[22:02] <jan_> at the upper right theres the wifi symbol, is it emtpy or like u would expect it?
[22:02] <widad> jan_, i get just 56% of it
[22:03] <bekks> widad: 56% of an icon?
[22:03] <jan_> but you are connected? so u can do stuff like ping google.com
[22:03] <widad> bekks, no of my wifi signal
[22:03] <daveda> hi, I know this is not the appropriate forum but does anyone know of any irc chatroom for anyone with serious mental health problem?
[22:03] <widad> jan_, i usully get 80% 90%
[22:04] <n00b_dust> widad, why don't you open up a terminal and show us the output of iwconfig
[22:04] <jan_> ping google.com does work though?
[22:05] <widad> wlan0     IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:"WIDAD"
[22:05] <widad>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 08:76:FF:AF:12:B8
[22:05] <widad>           Bit Rate=52 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[22:05] <widad>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[22:05] <widad>           Power Management:off
[22:05] <FloodBot1> widad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <widad>           Link Quality=42/70  Signal level=-68 dBm
[22:06] <jan_> my bitrate is at 65mb/s right now and im totally fine sitting next to the router...i dont think that the signal is a problem
[22:06] <widad> jan_, i cant even past on paste.ubuntu
[22:07] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6613927/
[22:08] <jan_> could u do some ping? like ping -t 200 google.com to see if ur losing packages
[22:09] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6613937/
[22:09] <jan_> the ping looks pretty much perfect^
[22:10] <jan_> your problem is opening webpages?
[22:10] <justcause2> hi
[22:10] <widad> jan_, ya i know but i suffer with the navigation and i don't do anything on interner
[22:10] <justcause2> Anyone know how I can play Just cause 2 + multiplayer steam mod on ubuntu 13.10? Possible?
[22:10] <widad> jan_, sorry internet
[22:11] <jan_> what id do is use a cable to connec tto see if theres a problem with the connection. if its working via cable you could think about getting whatever proprietary driver there is for your wifi (maybe ubuntu does it over the interface? I dunno)
[22:11] <jan_> justtacuse2 : u cannot: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11316
[22:12] <jan_> widad try a cable, i hope that u have one.
[22:12] <widad> jan_, no i don't
[22:12] <n00b_dust> widad, quoting the obvious here, but can you check if your browser is configured to use a proxy?
[22:13] <jan_> justcause2 id use a toy os for toys, windows is a fine toy os:D
[22:13] <justcause2> :(
[22:13] <widad> n00b_dust, i worked perfectly for a year with this browser and i think yes it has a proxy i use google chrome
[22:14] <jan_> widad whats your wifi card? lspci -v | grep Wire
[22:15] <jan_> im sorry justcause but we cant change it, steam starts to get some games but mostly using dualboot with some win7 is the best solution.
[22:15] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6613953/
[22:16] <anon12> I have installed nvidia-current by running sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; from a terminal but, when I run: sudo modprobe nvidia_current; I get: FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[22:16] <jan_> hmm that didnt give the wireless card, maybe u need to look at just lscpi -v to find out which one u have
[22:16] <jan_> oh...do u use some wifi stick?
[22:18] <widad> jan_, wifi stick?
[22:18] <jan_> do you use an internal wifi on  a laptop or some usb stick to get wifi?
[22:18] <loa> how stable your ubuntu is?
[22:19] <loa> my have some stability issue, i can't get uptime more then week
[22:19] <widad> internel wifi on my laptop
[22:19] <widad> jan_, internel wifi on my laptop
[22:19] <jan_> loa mine is stable, didnt have a crash yet other then that annoying totem/gstreamer bug (which crashed totem, not the system) when removing subtitles:D
[22:19] <bekks> loa: server or desktop?
[22:19] <loa> jan_, what version you have?
[22:19] <loa> bekks, 13.10 desktop
[22:20] <jan_> loa im using 13.10 too, didnt have a crash u could tell us what crashes your ubuntu once a week and how cheap power is so u never turn the thing off:D
[22:20] <loa> on 12.04 i have uptime until i need update and reboot
[22:21] <loa> jan_, i am from russia, here everybody have cheap personal nuclear reactor.
[22:21] <jan_> :D
[22:22] <jan_> seriously i guess that 13.10 could be less stable then the lts, theres gonna be another lts soon. on the other hand i cant remember a crash so i had to reboot this year
[22:23] <widad> jan_, do you have any idea to solve my problem please?
[22:24] <jan_> yes widad try the lscpi -v and search for the name of your wifi chip
[22:24] <jan_> thats mine: Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]
[22:24] <jan_> 	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 BGN
[22:24] <jan_> Centrino Wireless-N 1000 BGN thats the name and then u can look it up
[22:24] <jan_> there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[22:25] <jan_> maybe there is a proprietary driver for your wifi that works better, thats as much as i can help u right now:(
[22:26] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614003/
[22:27] <jan_> try to do those 2commands: sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi
[22:27] <jan_> sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[22:28] <jan_> got it from this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1978457 theres more pages maybe if that didnt help u find more help there
[22:28] <widad> jan_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6614026/
[22:29] <jan_> widad u have to disable wifi first so u can unload the wifi driver module
[22:29] <widad> ok
[22:31] <widad> jan_, same thing
[22:31] <widad> widad@widad-ThinkPad-T520:~$ sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi
[22:31] <widad> FATAL: Module iwlwifi is in use.
[22:31] <widad> widad@widad-ThinkPad-T520:~$ sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[22:31] <widad> widad@widad-ThinkPad-T520:~$
[22:31] <FloodBot1> widad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <delikiz> selam iyi geceler herkese
[22:32] <widad> jan_, same thing
[22:32] <jan_> try -rf, modprobe -rf iwlwifi
[22:32] <anon12> I have installed nvidia-current by running sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; from a terminal but, when I run: sudo modprobe nvidia_current; I get: FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[22:34] <jan_> okay widad iv got to go now. just remember if somebody else tries to help u what your wifi card is and that the issue should be that the 11n protocol is causing problems
[22:34] <jan_> good luck and i hope that it just solved it anyway:D
[22:36] <loa> ok, for example i now have fs on one partition, have crypted home folder, ubuntu 13.10, i want install 12.04 on another partition, but save my home folder location.
[22:36] <loa> how i can do this?
[22:36] <widad_> jan_, it says "FATAL: Module iwlwifi is in use."but wasn't
[22:38] <jan_> hmm i really dont know how to do more then -rf to unload a kernel module. its how far my knowledge goes. i feel positive that disabling the 11n with those two commands would help, theres a similar problem that some wifi cards have with a german router thats common
[22:40] <widad_> jan_, i hate that i really enjoy ubuntu i have tugling between win7 and ubuntu
[22:40] <jan_> you gotta try at some more frequented hours somebody will be able to help u disabling the 11n stuff
[22:40] <nashant> Hey guys. 2 questions. 1: does anybody know if there's a brightness indicator that integrates itself with the power indicator? And 2: is there anything that stops the screen turning off when watching videos (flash/html/vlc/whatever)?
[22:41] <jan_> ah wait do you nknow how to configure your router?
[22:41] <jan_> nashant : http://www.ohloh.net/p/Caffeine_applet
[22:42] <widad_> jan_, no that's the problem i just begun to learn it at school
[22:42] <jan_> its simply going to the web interface and then disable the wifi mode to something thjats not "n":D
[22:43] <widad_> oh i'll try
[22:43] <widad_> jan_, thanks
[22:43] <nashant> jan_: I think you have to enable/disable that yourself, don't you? I still want the screen to turn off if I fall asleep watching something,
[22:44] <jan_> your welcome. have a nice day and happy christmas, chanukka, new year, the other new year and whatver you fancy:D
[22:44] <jan_> nashant then u can make the duration to disable longer in the options
[22:45] <jan_> performance-click the brighhness link at the bottom
[22:45] <jan_> disable screen after inactive for: x minutes
[22:45] <jan_> so it wont dimm but after like 30minutes its going off totally
[22:45] <jan_> gotta go, bb:)
[22:46] <nashant> jan_: So you don't know of anything that does it all automatically? Watches for a video and disable screen off just while it's running?
[22:54] <DannyButterman> Hi there. This morning my ubuntu has begun to boot to command prompt. It seems nvidia_304 is not working anymore following the last updates. I can only use nvidia_173 (which is why I can be here). Can someone help me ? Am I the only one with this problem ?
[23:03] <jhutchins> DannyButterman: You usually have to rebuild third party (Nvidia) drivers if you upgrade the kernel.  Try booting to the old kernel, it should still work.
[23:08] <DannyButterman> jhutchins: I always use repos drivers over nvidia binaries because  of this problem. So it's not the case here. Plus the symptoms are the same with all the older kernels. I'm totally clueless :s
[23:09] <nesoi> hello... I am about to set up an AWS instance with Ubuntu server, and I'm wondering why one would chose 12.04.3 vs 13.10
[23:09] <bekks> DannyButterman: Did you boot into the new kerneland reinstall the nvidia drivers?
[23:09] <bekks> nesoi: Because 12.04 has a much longer support than 13.10.
[23:10] <nesoi> bekks : in terms of features or performance, is there a big difference? How about in terms of installing current software versions of things like Postgres, etc?
[23:10] <nesoi> or how about in terms of stability?
[23:10] <bekks> nesoi: Should be supported in 12.04 as well. 12.04 has a much longer support.
[23:11] <helpmeplease> hello, could someone help me real quick with a problem
[23:11] <nesoi> yes, I know it's an LTS, but I'm wondering about every other concern :) performance, installing current software versions of other software, stability, etc.
[23:11] <Lunar_Lamp> helpmeplease: don't ask to ask, just ask :-)
[23:12] <bekks> nesoi: Was already answered :)
[23:12] <Walex> helpmeplease: just ask your question and if someone wants they will reply. Repeat it every 5-10 minutes if nobody replies, but nore more frequently.
[23:12] <helpmeplease> I am running windows 7 and dual boot ubuntu 12.10, I was running 12.04 but after updating I get the logo for half a second then a black screen, I cannot do ctrl-alt-f1 or anything of that nature
[23:12] <Nicekiwi> hey so I'm getting a segmentation fault when I run apt-get update
[23:12] <Nicekiwi> help?
[23:14] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: can you boot to rescue mode?
[23:15] <DannyButterman> bekks: that's what I first did. I switched from one kernel to another, one nvidia driver to another. The result is I must use nvidia_173 or 173_updates and any kernel. All other nvidia drivers don't work (boot to command prompt)
[23:15] <helpmeplease> I can go to recovery mode
[23:15] <bekks> DannyButterman: Then maybe newer versions do not support your FPU?
[23:15] <bekks> DannyButterman: *GPU
[23:16] <helpmeplease> how would I find out?
[23:17] <helpmeplease> Also under windows 7 the ubuntu parition is showing up as a recovery parition
[23:17] <DannyButterman> bekks: that's my guess too. But there must be a way to downgrade the nvidia_304 drivers to their previous working state, isn't it ?
[23:17] <bekks> DannyButterman: you cant "downgrade a state".
[23:18] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: Windows does not understand other filesystems wihout help (third party drivers).
[23:19] <helpmeplease> jhutchins: what do you recommend I do?
[23:20] <DannyButterman> bekks: downgrade a driver actually, you know what I mean anyway don't you ? Sorry but English is not my mother tongue :s
[23:20] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, can i somehow disable that annoying search-when-type feature? (so when pressing L in folder it jumps right to first file starting with L instead of recursive search of every directory)
[23:21] <Guest53872> ciao
[23:21] <jhutchins> You should be able to get to the grub menu - you might need to hold down shift as you boot - that should give you a console from which you can fix your video.
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> DarkKnightCZ  maybe you find a usful option in dconf-editor
[23:22] <helpmeplease> I dont know if the video is my problem, I am running an intel GPU, and most people seem to have a problem with nvidias
[23:23] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: It's not clear whether you're talkiing about an ubuntu recovery mode or some windows thing.
[23:24] <DarkKnightCZ> MonkeyDust: thanks, i will look into it
[23:24] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: Are you running two different video cards?
[23:24] <helpmeplease> no I am not
[23:25] <munz> DarkKnightCZ: if u find the solution plz let me know :)
[23:26] <helpmeplease> Well I have a problem and two ways of fixing it, the problem to restate is when I start up ubuntu I get the logo for a brief second then it goes black, no sounds or anything else, I could try and fix it from the recovery menu or the grub or whatever, or I could uninstall and reinstall, however I cannot uninstall as under the disk management in windows 7 there is the C drive partition and a blank named partition which I cannot del
[23:26] <helpmeplease> so I cannot uninstall, I hope that clears it up more
[23:26] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: Then you're either running an Intel GPU or an Nvida GPU.
[23:27] <helpmeplease> yes
[23:27] <helpmeplease> I am running intel gpu, never said I was using a nvidia
[23:27] <jhutchins> Ah, so I see.
[23:27] <DarkKnightCZ> munz, MonkeyDust: hmm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1164016
[23:27] <helpmeplease> So I either need to figure out how to delete ubuntu and then install again, or fix it from the grub or recovery mode
[23:28] <helpmeplease> so do you have any idea what I can do?
[23:28] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: My first question remains, can you boot the system into Ubuntu rescue/recovery mode.  That determines if the base system is OK, or if you have a boot problem.
[23:28] <helpmeplease> yes I can do that
[23:29] <jhutchins> helpmeplease: If it boots to rescue mode, try adding nomodeset to the kernel boot parameters.  It should boot to a console again.
[23:29] <nashant> Anyone know how I get a brightness slider in the power indicator?
[23:29] <helpmeplease> I added that to the quicksplash under the grub menu but it went black but had an underscore and could not do anything
[23:30] <helpmeplease> and when I went back to the grub after restarting it was no longer there
[23:30] <pulsar78> so ive been googling the last 30 mins for a simple bootdisk, no gui just some basic tools dd/ps etc
[23:30] <pulsar78> cant find anything under 100 mb
[23:31] <munz> wow DarkKnightCZ that kinda sucks
[23:31] <pulsar78> anyone an idea ?
[23:31] <DarkKnightCZ> munz: yeeah... but there are solutions in comments (patching current version of nautilus)
[23:32] <helpmeplease> any ideas jhutchins?
[23:34] <munz> DarkKnightCZ: cool, i may patch it then, i like nautilus and dont really want to switch file browsers
[23:34] <DarkKnightCZ> yep, me too :)
[23:35] <_SrRaven> so,ubuntu did kill my bootcamp booting thing
[23:35] <_SrRaven> cant boot into mac anymore
[23:36] <_SrRaven> also, when I log in again after restarting...I get a black screen :s
[23:37] <MonkeyDust> _SrRaven  you were warned, iirc
[23:37] <_SrRaven> munz and something with _U in the end said it'd be fine
[23:37] <_SrRaven> so...
[23:38] <SrRaven> re
[23:38] <Nicekiwi> Ubuntu forums are down?
[23:39] <helpmeplease> I cannot load ubuntu as it goes black when the logo appears, I can go into recovery mode, and It does not seem to be a problem with my GPU
[23:39] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, is this a new installation?
[23:40] <helpmeplease> no it was 12.04 but when updated it to 12.10 it stopped
[23:40] <helpmeplease> stopped working *
[23:41] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, ugh.. 12.10 is hell on earth.
[23:41] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, do you use the proprietary Nvidia drivers?
[23:41] <helpmeplease> No, I have an integrated intel gpu, im on a laptop
[23:43] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, does ur lappy have an SSD?
[23:43] <helpmeplease> what is an ssd?
[23:43] <SrRaven> solid state drive
[23:44] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, ^
[23:44] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, you might try this: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/ubuntu-lightdm-black-screen-when-using.html
[23:45] <helpmeplease> no i dont have a SSD
[23:47] <SrRaven> yeah I dont get it why wont it login :/
[23:47] <helpmeplease> I cannot uninstall ubuntu because in windows it calls my ubuntu partition a "recovery partition"
[23:47] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, maybe try it anyway. But first once you've booted to a blank screen what happens if you press Ctl + Alt + f3
[23:48] <helpmeplease> nothing
[23:48] <helpmeplease> it completely freezes up
[23:48] <helpmeplease> cannot to ctl alt any Fs
[23:48] <Nicekiwi> ok, but you can boot into recovery?
[23:48] <helpmeplease> yes I can
[23:48] <Nicekiwi> thats just commandline right?
[23:49] <Nicekiwi> you can login and work normall within comamdnline right, helpmeplease ?
[23:49] <helpmeplease> not when I try and boot normally
[23:49] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, I mean in recovery
[23:49] <helpmeplease> and the only way to get to it is through grub, or when I resume from recovery it asks me to log in but not from the log in screen but the terminal
[23:50] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, yes and that all works right?
[23:50] <helpmeplease> yes
[23:51] <Guest50470> ру
[23:51] <Guest50470> рус
[23:52] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease, you might try this: http://paste.laravel.com/1gex
[23:52] <helpmeplease> okay, I am going to log into another computer to the irc, and will try both things you linked me
[23:52] <Nicekiwi> helpmeplease. but if you can you're better off avoiding 12.10 and sticking with 12.04.
[23:53] <helpmeplease> well I was planning to update to 13.04
[23:53] <Nicekiwi> thats a good plan too
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> helpmeplease  what Nicekiwi says... me too, I returned to 12.04
[23:54] <SrRaven> how would I change my video settings to the default one in ubuntu?
[23:54] <SrRaven> if I cant boot into it
[23:54] <helpmeplease2> Okay I will be chatting from this account while I try and fix my ubuntu
[23:54] <teebsz> Anyone here with experience automating Ubuntu installs?
[23:54] <teebsz> Trying to preseed questions.
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  do you have more than one pc in the same network?
[23:55] <SrRaven> theoretically yes
[23:55] <SrRaven> I am on my desktop PC atm
[23:55] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  you *could* try ssh
[23:55] <teebsz> I have gotten ubuntu.seed in /preseed folder to accept some q/a.
[23:56] <SrRaven> MonkeyDust sounds like a plan
[23:56] <teebsz> But there are some questions that it can't answer; localization
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  or use some other technology to connect remotely to your not-working machine
[23:56] <SrRaven> but it wont connect using my wifi
[23:56] <teebsz> Now I'm trying some combination of Kickstart ( from RedHat) and ubuntu.seed
[23:56] <SrRaven> do I have to use the lan?
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> SrRaven  use what works
[23:57] <Nicekiwi> anyone know a fix for segmentation fault when running apt-get update?
[23:57] <teebsz> I'm also worried some Ubuntu parameter is forcing questions.
[23:58] <SrRaven> hmm it says connected but I dont see it in my router
[23:59] <teebsz> any advice or direction in automating Ubuntu Installs are welcome.
[23:59] <Jumpie> hey guys im trying to get the amd drivers for ubuntu, supposedly apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle but say sunable to lcoate package
[23:59] <Jumpie> is this a repo issue