[12:23] <diego> thegatekeeper, how long have you been using ubuntu for?
[12:23] <hujciwdupe> omg wireless blows in kubuntu, what a worthless crap
[12:23] <matthew> hujciwdupe, actually, it works quite well for me.
[12:23] <crimsun_> I know, we should all use whatever OS hujciwdupe wrote!!one
[12:24] <matthew> I'm using a ralink something or other...kinda sketchy under dapper, but rock-solid under edgy
[12:24] <hujciwdupe> crimsun_,and what os is that
[12:24] <matthew> hujciwdupe, crimsun_ is making a point
[12:25] <hujciwdupe> i dont see the point
[12:25] <gan|y|med> hi
[12:25] <matthew> hujciwdupe, crimsun_ is saying "If you're not happy with it, then fix it. But don't complain about it.
[12:26] <gan|y|med> got a problem with superkaramba
[12:26] <matthew> basically, do something constructive
[12:26] <hujciwdupe> yeah, i am , im installing windows right now
[12:27] <crimsun_> that's brilliant, but I don't think we really care about Windows here.
[12:27] <gan|y|med> had it installed, worked fine. installed themes (particularly wikipedia search). then superkaramba crashed. since then i can install scripts, just not some (like wikipedia) that were installed before. reinstall and removal didn't work either
[12:27] <Chousuke> hujciwdupe: Don't blame your incompetence on the OS :)
[12:27] <gan|y|med> any ideas?
[12:27] <hujciwdupe> not my fault it doesnt work
[12:27] <TheGateKeeper> diego, for about a year now, I actually dual boot & most of the time use gentoo
[12:28] <diego> can't help sorry, i'm struggling on installing firrefox and amsn
[12:28] <diego> i see, is gentoo better?
[12:28] <Koshtan> hi yaall
[12:28] <OkinawaInstructo> i run duel o/s on one computer (windows and Kubuntu) i loaded windows and lost access to linux, how can i fix it so when i turn on the computer i get the choice of which o/s i want?
[12:28] <matthew> hujciwdupe, but you could either find a card that works automatically under kubuntu, or you can do a little bit of work to get wifi working.
[12:28] <gan|y|med> use a live cd and grub it
[12:29] <vge> never mix jelly to butter
[12:29] <matthew> OkinawaInstructo, you need to reinstall GrUB
[12:29] <Xubuntian> guys
[12:29] <Xubuntian> i am surprised
[12:29] <Xubuntian> look here
[12:29] <matthew> OkinawaInstructo, give me a sec, I'll get you a link.
[12:29] <Xubuntian> http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130058247670&fromMakeTrack=true
[12:29] <Xubuntian> sorry :)
[12:29] <Xubuntian> wrong link
[12:29] <matthew> lol
[12:29] <Xubuntian> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE1XQyT_IbA
[12:29] <Xubuntian> this one
[12:29] <OkinawaInstructo> Xubuntian: thank you
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper> crimsun_, DaSkreech  which bright spark emasculated the wiki? There used to be loads of usefull stuff which all seem to have diappeared, can't even find the howto install firefox 2 on dapper
[12:30] <DaSkreech> Dink: Hiya
[12:30] <TheGateKeeper> disappeared*
[12:30] <gan|y|med> hey guys, nothing about superkaramba??
[12:30] <DaSkreech> TheGateKeeper: Well if it was a bright enough spark I would blame the wicki
[12:30] <hujciwdupe> matthew, my card is detected fine
[12:30] <diego> i cant even install flash player :(
[12:31] <matthew> hujciwdupe, do you have dhcp enabled?
[12:31] <matthew> OkinawaInstructo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:31] <TheGateKeeper> diego, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes  <-- lots of usefull stuff there
[12:31] <hujciwdupe> matthew, yup
[12:32] <diego> thegatekeeper, thank you ill try it
[12:32] <matthew> hujciwdupe, do you have eth0 enabled? (eth0 is the ethernet link)
[12:32] <TheGateKeeper> diego, gentoo is basically building linux from scratch, but once you have done it, it's very easy to keep up to date
[12:32] <hujciwdupe> matthew,disabled
[12:32] <matthew> hujciwdupe, are you using wlassistant to try to connect to your network?
[12:33] <diego> so you've got to do it by yourself?
[12:33] <diego> the whole os thing*
[12:33] <hujciwdupe> matthew, yup . i already hate that app
[12:33] <Xubuntian> diego: sei tu?
[12:33] <Xubuntian> diego: sono taglia
[12:33] <matthew> hujciwdupe, I know what you mean
[12:33] <vge> what's the easiest way to make a "back up disket"? that i could run to gain access to disks?
[12:33] <matthew> hujciwdupe, try using a static IP address.
[12:34] <matthew> hujciwdupe, what's the IP of your network? Probably something like 192.168.1.*
[12:34] <eilker> how can i have whole man pages ? not only from console, pdf prefable :)
[12:34] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i did , the problem is the encryprion key
[12:34] <TheGateKeeper> diego, yep
[12:34] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ah...wep or wpa?
[12:34] <diego> xubuntian, is that italian? :s i do spanish and a little portuguese and a little french
[12:35] <hujciwdupe> matthew,wep
[12:35] <TheGateKeeper> diego, have a look at the url in the pm, if you want to talk more we can talk there
[12:35] <diego> thegatekeeper, i tried downloading to install it but couldn't be bothered to install it yet, i can't talk there
[12:35] <matthew> hujciwdupe, in network settings, did you tell it that ra0 is a wep-encrypted link? There should be a field to fill in...
[12:36] <matthew> with the code.
[12:36] <hujciwdupe> matthew, nope havent seen any setting like that ,
[12:36] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok...here we go!
[12:36] <ubuntu> hi someone plz
[12:37] <ubuntu> if i want to install kubuntu
[12:37] <matthew> hujciwdupe, go into network settings and click the administrator button
[12:37] <ubuntu> do i need /usr partiotion?
[12:37] <matthew> hujciwdupe, type in the password
[12:37] <hujciwdupe> matthew,  ive been there many times , there is no option like that
[12:37] <fnord5> !cron
[12:37] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[12:37] <matthew> hujciwdupe, at the bottom, you may need to scroll down.
[12:38] <matthew> hujciwdupe, if you still can't find it, try sudo kcontrol
[12:38] <fnord5> do i need cron for anything?
[12:38] <matthew> in a terminal, of course
[12:38] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i know where the admin is , but no option to choose wep or wpa or whatever
[12:38] <matthew> hujciwdupe, you need to select ra0 in the list, then click "Configure" down below
[12:39] <matthew> hujciwdupe, actually "Configure Interface" button
[12:39] <hujciwdupe> matthew, when i click that it only lets me put in the network name and the key, and the ip configs
[12:39] <matthew> ok, h/o
[12:41] <fnord5> is ok to disable cron or rsync?
[12:41] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok...I'm not on a box w/ wireless right now...so...ok, try going into wlassistant and right-clicking the network name and "forget settings"
[12:41] <hujciwdupe> matthew, and
[12:41] <digitalfreedom> any one here good with nessus?
[12:42] <ninHer> hi all
[12:42] <matthew> hujciwdupe, try letting me know when you have done what I asked...it speeds up the process. I'm not trying to be rude, honest.
[12:42] <matthew> hujciwdupe, then click on the network name and select automatic, then it should ask for a network key...
[12:43] <hujciwdupe> matthew,just tell me the whole thing , i have to go down to the besement , thats where that pc is
[12:43] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok...I think that's it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
[12:44] <hujciwdupe> matthew, ok , what do i do after clearing the settings?
[12:45] <matthew> hujciwdupe, then click on the network name and select automatic, then it should ask for a network key...
[12:46] <hujciwdupe> matthew, ok , which format is the network key supose to be in?
[12:46] <eilker> !lightscribe
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <matthew> hujciwdupe, if your passcode is just a word or something, then its ascii
[12:47] <blue> hi guys, im trying to share the internet connection on my ubuntu box to another pc. the other pc can obtain an ip address from my ubuntu box, the other pc cannot browse the web
[12:48] <hujciwdupe> matthew, yeh i tried all that many times , but im gonna go do it again , where do i specify to use wep , can it even use wpa?
[12:48] <fnord5> what the command lineterm to display all running processes?
[12:48] <fnord5> also ktorrent keeps crashing every tim i start it,any help???
[12:49] <ibert> in which packet can I find "mail" for the command line?
[12:49] <bgsteffens> i bought a brand new drive, put it into my main kubuntu machine, formatted and created an ext3 partition, copied over a couple hundred gb of data, then moved it to my server (xubuntu) and xubuntu sees the partition filesystem as 'unknown'
[12:49] <bgsteffens> any ideas?
[12:50] <fnord5> come on i know someone here know the answere to at least one of my questions!!
[12:51] <hujciwdupe> fnord5, u can use the ksystemguard to view processes
[12:51] <hujciwdupe> fnord5, or ksysguard or something like that
[12:52] <JohnFlux> fnord5: press ctrl+esc
[12:52] <JohnFlux> fnord5: on the command line you can use  top or ps
[12:53] <BluesKaj> ktorrent has a new version that is stable
[12:53] <BluesKaj> !ktorrent
[12:53] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[12:53] <bgsteffens> nobody has any ideas what could be wrong with my drive?
[12:53] <JohnFlux> hujciwdupe: search for my masquerading made simple howto on google
[12:54] <JohnFlux> hujciwdupe:  first hit ;-)
[12:55] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok, I'm back. Sorry I was away...I'm at work. ok, how did that work? were you able to connect using the passcode? Remember, plain text is ascii, and stuff like "0cFF87DE" is Hex.
[12:57] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i havent tried yet , im gonna go do it right now,  i dont see the option to choose wep or wpa ,
[12:59] <hujciwdupe> matthew, other problem is that the wireass app wont show any netwoks untill i specify the name of the network , even tho its broadcasted
[01:00] <BluesKaj> don't choose wep, wpa is much more secure
[01:05] <matthew> hujciwdupe, try clicking "Refresh"...
[01:05] <eilker> could anyone paste pls from his fstab // /dev/fd0> /media/fd0  users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0  // i have this sth wrong with it, dapper drake here
[01:06] <eilker> i have problem with fd0
[01:06] <eilker> kate /etc/fstab
[01:07] <xherr4> hello
[01:07] <eilker> hi
[01:07] <BluesKaj> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[01:08] <eilker> blueskaj: kdesu kate /etc/fstab will be better
[01:08] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:08] <eilker> blueskaj: anyway could you tell me that line from your fstab pls
[01:08] <eilker> the line with fd0
[01:09] <BluesKaj> hang on
[01:09] <wimpies> hi all, any openoffice 2.1 packages for edgy >
[01:11] <matthew> hujciwdupe, try clicking "Refresh" within the wlassistant program.
[01:13] <BluesKaj> eilker, no line with fd0
[01:13] <eilker> blueskaj: so u dont have floopy ?
[01:14] <hujciwdupe> matthew, yeah , im fuckin pissed, this thing doesnt even want to list my network anymore , not to mention other networks that are around my house
[01:14] <BluesKaj> nope
[01:14] <eilker> blueskaj: i see ,thanx..
[01:14] <digitalfreedom> nessus anyone?
[01:14] <eilker> digitalfreedom:  i had it
[01:15] <digitalfreedom> i need some hlp
[01:15] <eilker> let me try if i can
[01:15] <BluesKaj> was an oversight when i ordered my pc ...I have 2 floppy drives sitting here on the shelf but I haven't bothered installing
[01:15] <digitalfreedom> ok when im not getting a faild login to nessud im an ssl error
[01:15] <matthew> !language
[01:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:16] <matthew> hujciwdupe, ok, why don't you go ahead and type in the name of the wireless network in the configuration portion.
[01:16] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i did, now it doesnt show it either,  it shows it whenever it wants to
[01:17] <crimson> can anyone talk me through a couple small things?
[01:17] <hujciwdupe> matthew, i know the signal quality is good , so thats not the problem
[01:18] <matthew> hujciwdupe, hmm, in the network settings -> configure interface, is the box for "Activate on startup" checked?
[01:18] <Alter-Ego> crimson, don't ask, just ask
[01:18] <matthew> !anyone | crimson
[01:18] <ubotu> crimson: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:18] <hujciwdupe> matthew,yes
[01:18] <matthew> hujciwdupe, hmmm, I'm all out of ideas. Try kubuntuforums.net
[01:19] <hujciwdupe> matthew, olrighty , thank you
[01:19] <crimson> i'm attempting to install a plugin and i'm having a hard time understanding the way the cd command is used.
[01:20] <crimson> and also how to find and convey the location of the package's source code through the cd command
[01:20] <Alter-Ego> change directory ?
[01:20] <crimson> yeah
[01:20] <Alter-Ego> cd /
[01:20] <Alter-Ego> cd ~
[01:20] <Alter-Ego> cd /home/crimson
[01:21] <Alter-Ego> pwd - present working directory
[01:21] <Alter-Ego> ls - listing of directory contents
[01:21] <crimson> it says that no directory exists when i do the syntax to the package folder
[01:22] <Alter-Ego> r u in konsole ?
[01:22] <Alter-Ego> i assume
[01:22] <crimson> yeah
[01:22] <digitalfreedom> go to the place where you want to install the pkg then run it
[01:22] <Alter-Ego> where is it supposed to be ?
[01:22] <matthew> hujciwdupe, no prob
[01:23] <crimson> i don't know where i want it installed
[01:23] <crimson> wherever is default
[01:23] <crimson> i just want it installed
[01:23] <Alter-Ego> r u using adept ?
[01:23] <digitalfreedom> whats the pkg?
[01:23] <crimson> yeah
[01:23] <Alter-Ego> or is the package in adept
[01:23] <crimson> its the xine plugin
[01:23] <crimson> it isn't an adept package
[01:23] <digitalfreedom> oh well just let adept do the work
[01:23] <digitalfreedom> oh
[01:23] <Alter-Ego> yes
[01:24] <digitalfreedom> but yo ucan find the xine pkg on adept
[01:24] <Alter-Ego> what plugin in xine is it ?
[01:24] <crimson> its the d5d
[01:24] <crimson> video support
[01:24] <binary2k2> crimson: what was the file you downloaded?
[01:25] <crimson> its xine-d5d-0.2.7.
[01:25] <crimson> its was compressed, now it is a folder by that name
[01:25] <Alter-Ego> ah, i understand now
[01:25] <binary2k2> crimson: did it have .tar.gz as the extention?
[01:25] <crimson> yeah
[01:25] <binary2k2> crimson: have you unpacked it yet?
[01:25] <digitalfreedom> ./configure time
[01:25] <Alter-Ego> i suspect that now that it is in a folder your wanting to move it to the xine plugin folder ?
[01:26] <crimson> yeah
[01:26] <DaSkreech> I like kaffiene now :)
[01:26] <binary2k2> crimson: if you type ls "xine-d5d-0.2.7" do you see a listing?
[01:26] <crimson> type it in konsole?
[01:27] <binary2k2> yeah
[01:27] <digitalfreedom> yes konsole is kin crimson
[01:27] <digitalfreedom> king*
[01:27] <crimson> it just says command not found
[01:27] <crimson> whoops
[01:27] <crimson> typo
[01:27] <binary2k2> the command is: ls xine-d5d-0.2.7
[01:28] <crimson> no such file or dir
[01:28] <binary2k2> ok
[01:28] <digitalfreedom> try whereis xine
[01:28] <binary2k2> type: ls xine-<TAB>
[01:28] <binary2k2> where <TAB>
[01:28] <binary2k2> is the actual tab key
[01:28] <crimson> just makes a beep noise
[01:29] <binary2k2> try pressing it twice in quick succession
[01:29] <crimson> whereis xine worked
[01:29] <Alter-Ego>  /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.2
[01:30] <digitalfreedom> bravo now just unpack/compile yer plugin there
[01:30] <digitalfreedom> or mv the folder
[01:30] <crimson> whats the syntax for unpacking it there?
[01:31] <binary2k2> cd to /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.2
[01:31] <binary2k2> then run: sudo tar xzf ~/xine-d5d-0.2.7.tar.gz
[01:31] <crimson> it says no such file or directory
[01:32] <binary2k2> if the file is saved in your home dir
[01:32] <crimson> gotcha
[01:33] <digitalfreedom> or to save typing all that add an * after xine
[01:33] <digitalfreedom> its a wild card char
[01:33] <digitalfreedom> very handy
[01:33] <digitalfreedom> for saving keystrokes
[01:33] <crimson> going to far
[01:33] <crimson> i still cant cd to the dir
 works as well
[01:33] <crimson> it says it doesnt exist
[01:33] <Alter-Ego> mv .hidden .hidden.old
[01:34] <binary2k2> crimson: is it a .tar.gz or some other type? eg .tgz
[01:34] <crimson> tar.gz
[01:34] <digitalfreedom> do i have to install fork? like i had to to do finger and whois?
[01:34] <crimson> er, i mean .tgz
[01:35] <binary2k2> then replace tar.gz with tgz in the tar command
[01:35] <crimson> i haven't used a tar command
[01:35] <Alter-Ego> crimson, can you cd to that directory ?
[01:35] <crimson> no
[01:35] <binary2k2> that's how you extract the archive
[01:35] <digitalfreedom> gunzip is handy as well
[01:36] <Alter-Ego> can you cd past your home directory ?
[01:36] <digitalfreedom> i cant fork nothing
[01:36] <digitalfreedom> :(
[01:36] <Alter-Ego> for example, cd ~ and then cd ../
[01:37] <crimson> okay
[01:37] <Alter-Ego> can you get to the root directory ?
[01:38] <crimson> ?
[01:38] <Alter-Ego> so when you do an ls, you see /bin, /boot, etc.
[01:38] <Alter-Ego> if you do a pwd, where does it show you at ?
[01:38] <crimson> home
[01:38] <binary2k2> crimson: what do you get if you run: ls -ld /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.2
[01:39] <crimson> no file or directory
[01:39] <Alter-Ego> binary2k2 i think his problem is the .hidden file in edgy that is hiding the directory structure
[01:39] <binary2k2> Alter-Ego: it doesn't effect terminals tho
[01:40] <binary2k2> crimson: what's the out put of: ls /usr/lib/xine/plugins/
[01:40] <Alter-Ego> oh
[01:40] <crimson> nothing
[01:41] <binary2k2> Alter-Ego: I haven't bothered to change the /.hidden yet, and I can still see everything in / with ls, just not with konq
[01:41] <Alter-Ego> oh
[01:41] <binary2k2> crimson: you may have to make the directory first then
[01:42] <crimson> just make it with that exact name, and then move the .tgz file there, and extract it?
[01:43] <binary2k2> yeah
[01:43] <binary2k2> cd /usr/lib/xine/plugins/
[01:43] <goodthing> can anyone try and help me with adding a hard disk? I have tried to documentate my previous steps here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37268/
[01:43] <binary2k2> sudo mkdir 1.1.2
[01:44] <crimson> thanks for the help
[01:44] <binary2k2> :)
[01:44] <crimson> ill check in later when i do it
[01:44] <crimson> gotta go for now
[01:44] <binary2k2> lucky I can't sleep ay :p
[01:44] <bgsteffens> question - when cfdisk shows an FS Type of 'Linux' instead of 'Linux ext3' - what do i put as the type when mounting it?
[01:46] <binary2k2> bgsteffens: what did you format it as?
[01:47] <bgsteffens> i thought ext3 but it won't mount as that
[01:48] <DaSkreech> Anyone uses xpenguins?
[01:48] <binary2k2> have you tried just: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" and see if it will work that way? (replace hda1 with the real partition tho)
[01:48] <goodthing> DaSkreech:  never heard of it
[01:48] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, what are xpenguins?
[01:48] <DaSkreech> check adept
[01:49] <goodthing> anyone reading my stupid story?
[01:49] <binary2k2> Description: little penguins walk on your windows
[01:49] <DaSkreech> I installed it about three weeks ago still can't get it to work
[01:49] <BluesKaj> awwc c'mon you can tell us
[01:49] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[01:49] <bgsteffens> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:49] <DaSkreech> goodthing: What story?
[01:49] <goodthing> the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37268/
[01:49] <BluesKaj> !xpenguins
[01:49] <ubotu> xpenguins: little penguins walk on your windows. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-4 (edgy), package size 218 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[01:49] <goodthing> about my hard disk adventure
[01:49] <bgsteffens> neither ext2 nor ext3 works, they return 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, missing codepage, or other error'
[01:49] <binary2k2> bgsteffens: how did you format it?
[01:50] <bgsteffens> well i used cfdisk to create the partition
[01:50] <DaSkreech> goodthing: TIA?
[01:50] <bgsteffens> i couldn't find ext3 so i just did linux
[01:50] <bgsteffens> but it mounted on the computer i was doing it on
[01:50] <matthew> bgsteffens, if you don't care about the data, try sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/device_name
[01:50] <bgsteffens> it's 200+ gb of all my data >_<
[01:51] <matthew> oh.
[01:51] <matthew> lol
[01:51] <bgsteffens> lol that's why i haven't just done that ;P
[01:52] <matthew> bgsteffens, oh, ok
[01:52] <BluesKaj> bgsteffens, I recommend GParted Live CD for setting up resizing , moving partitions for Linx and Windows
[01:52] <BluesKaj> linux of course
[01:52] <DaSkreech> goodthing: *poke*
[01:53] <bgsteffens> ok
[01:53] <bgsteffens> so no ideas on how to check a filesystem type as it relates to mount command?
[01:54] <matthew> bgsteffens, I'm not sure this would work, but try fsck
[01:54] <matthew> sudo, of course
[01:54] <matthew> sudo fsck /dev/device name
[01:54] <bgsteffens> won't mess up data?
[01:54] <matthew> only if it's mounted
[01:54] <binary2k2> bgsteffens: umm, if you do something like "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=testfile bs=1024 count=4" then "file testfile" you may get a hint to the filesystem
[01:55] <binary2k2> I did that for my hda1 and got: testfile: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data
[01:55] <matthew> fsck might output what type of fs it is.
[01:55] <bgsteffens> administrator@server:/media/longterm$ sudo fsck /dev/hda1
[01:55] <bgsteffens> fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[01:55] <bgsteffens> e2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[01:55] <bgsteffens> Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
[01:56] <bgsteffens> fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda1
[01:56] <bgsteffens> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[01:56] <bgsteffens> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[01:56] <bgsteffens> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[01:56] <bgsteffens> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[01:56] <bgsteffens>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[01:56] <bgsteffens> sorry >_< lol
[01:56] <DaSkreech> So no one has gotten xpenguins to work?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Man so much stuff needs updating in the repos :(
[01:56] <matthew> bgsteffens, ok, have you tried binary2k2's solution?
[01:56] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: hmm?
[01:57] <goodthing> DaSkreech: sorry, i was out for toilet and tea. TIA= thanks in advance
[01:57] <bgsteffens> file testfile returns: 'testfile: data'
[01:57] <DaSkreech> HA ha
[01:57] <esaym> anyone good with xorg and ati
[01:57] <esaym> ?
[01:57] <esaym> i have a res in the xorg.conf that i cant use but i could use in windows
[01:57] <esaym> 1400x1050 @76
[01:58] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: to run xpenguins, you need to configure the desktop and allow programs to access the background
[01:58] <esaym> right now no matter what i do i cant get anything higher then 1280x1024
[01:58] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: How?
[01:58] <esaym> has anyone seen this problem before? i cant find any info
[01:58] <esaym> 9700 pro btw
[01:58] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: right click on the desktop, configure desktop
[01:58] <BluesKaj> esaym, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head
[01:58] <LjL> esaym: you might have sync rates in your xorg.conf that are too low, and xorg refuses to use that resolution
[01:58] <LjL> esaym: if you have your monitor's specs (should be in the user manual), you can put them into xorg conf
[01:59] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: Behaviour tab
[01:59] <esaym> fglrx is installed
[01:59] <esaym> i have the h and v specs in the xorg.comfig
[01:59] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: then allow programs access to background or something
[01:59] <LjL> esaym: otherwise what i'd advice is a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and when it asks you to choose refresh rates, select the "intermediate" (or whatever it's called - but not the "basic" or "advanced") setting, and tell it 1400x1050 @ some Hz that you know your monitor can take
[01:59] <kamui_> i've been having a problem with my usb, it seems that devices plugged in are running at 1.1 speeds.   Is there a way to check what driver my usb host hardware is being controlled by?  I think if memory serves me it should be ehci for usb 2.0
[02:00] <BluesKaj> esaym, the open source driver might accomodate yer high expectations for resolution
[02:00] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: Right. And that doesn't work But at least I have path now
[02:00] <esaym> let me try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[02:01] <esaym> brb
[02:03] <goodthing> damn, i might have spend 400 euro for a hard disk and a hard disk silencer for nothing. iSuck (tm)
[02:06] <DaSkreech> goodthing: It comes up in the BIOS right?
[02:07] <goodthing> yeah, prefectly
[02:07] <goodthing> *perfectly
[02:07] <goodthing> looking at the live-cd the /dev/sd* locations just get switched somehow
[02:08] <goodthing> i suspect that grub is working with wrong paths by that, but my knowledge stops there
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Live CD works fine?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Well edgy does have upstart
[02:11] <goodthing> uhm, yeah live-cd boots although the /dev/sd* paths are weird
[02:11] <goodthing> somehow SATA1 and SATA3 get switched every time
[02:12] <goodthing> in live that is ok i guess, but from the disk it is a problem
[02:12] <binary2k2> the sd* devices are made in order of detection, so i think it depends on a mixture of the kernel and udev
[02:13] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Which grub is it booting from?
[02:13] <goodthing> DaSkreech: i have no idea, the grub from edgy i guess. Should i look?
[02:14] <goodthing> already looking...
[02:15] <BluesKaj> anyone running a network with windows pcs at home or at work ? ...I'm trying to make wife's windows pc work with samba on this kubuntu box, but her pc keeps asking for user and pw ...it doesn't accept the one I've stored in her pc's hostfile
[02:16] <goodthing> DaSkreech: 0.97-11ubuntu14
[02:17] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: what is the security part set as in smb.conf ?
[02:17] <binary2k2> I have a working network with an XP box at home
[02:18] <DaSkreech> goodthing: What happens if you remove all the drive s but the new one?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, my smb.conf is blank !
[02:18] <goodthing> DaSkreech: then all goes without a single problem, even if i add one the two other disk it does smooth
[02:19] <goodthing> *goes
[02:19] <goodthing> third disk= problem somehow
[02:19] <DaSkreech> third disk == ?
[02:20] <DaSkreech> original boot drive?
[02:20] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: have you tried using the setup in system settings?
[02:21] <goodthing> nope, i put edgy (which works) on SATA1, this works. Then i put one of the two older disks at SATA2 and this still goes without a problem
[02:21] <goodthing> the problem starts when i put a third SATA disk in system
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Anyone of them?
[02:22] <goodthing> yep
[02:22] <goodthing> which one does not matter
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Ah Maybe a MB problem then?
[02:22] <binary2k2> do you have to set the jumpers on SATA disks?
[02:22] <goodthing> that would be insane, this motherbord is like two years old
[02:23] <BluesKaj> yes binary2k2 , I have, but the terms are difficult to understand
[02:23] <DaSkreech> Yeah Sata isn't the most bug free technology in the world
[02:23] <DaSkreech> sataI or sataII ?
[02:23] <goodthing> binary2k2: nope, comes jumpersless, the new 750 disk has a jumper for SATA2 300gbit/s and SATA2 150gbit/s mode though. (does not make a diference)
[02:24] <goodthing> 2
[02:24] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: No Sata has one device perchannel
[02:24] <binary2k2> just askin :p
[02:24] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: Just informing
[02:25] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, what's the best settings to use in the share settings ..simple sharing or advanced ?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> What sata chipset?
[02:25] <goodthing> the hard part: the motherbord maker (asus) has stopped updating his BIOS almost a year ago
[02:26] <goodthing> one year support i got(!) where the MB was just out
[02:26] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: that's just alowind users at setup shares, not access them, simple lets any user share anything in it home, advanced sets permission to share per user (I use simple)
[02:26] <goodthing> i think one year yes
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Sounds about right
[02:27] <BluesKaj> ok cool binary2k2..I'll do that
[02:27] <goodthing> right? well, not if i still comes with bugs not
[02:27] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: this is what my smb.conf is like with an example share in it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37274/
[02:28] <goodthing> at least, it looks like it for now
[02:28] <goodthing> hmm, or not, the live-cd just work....\
[02:28] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Didn't say the MB had faults
[02:28] <DaSkreech>  SATA itself is an incomplete technology
[02:30] <goodthing> so "they" release an incomplete product on the public :s
[02:30] <binary2k2> microsoft do it all the time :p
[02:30] <DaSkreech> goodthing: It's mostly good
[02:30] <goodthing> they all do it i guess
[02:31] <goodthing> but when it hurts you it's no fun
[02:31] <DaSkreech> It's stuff like having 4 controllers or sharing channels sends it crazy
[02:31] <binary2k2> the linux kernel itself is incomplete
[02:31] <binary2k2> work in progress
[02:31] <DaSkreech> Which was to be taken care of in SATA II but they spent a lot of time on timing stuff and less on organization
[02:31] <DaSkreech>  SATA II *should* be much better
[02:32] <goodthing> well, i have waited for sataII to buy this board and disks back then
[02:32] <DaSkreech> Hi Jucato
[02:33] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, why would my smb.conf file be blank ...I don't get it :P
[02:33] <goodthing> sometimes i ask myself why i would my own systems....
[02:33] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[02:33] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: I don't know, I set mine up over a year ago, don't remember if it was empty, I just drag it from distro to distro
[02:34] <BluesKaj> is it cuz I'm also using komba2 to link my network ?
[02:35] <binary2k2> maybe, it could have killed your smb.conf, but I don't use it so I can't say
[02:36] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: SWAT (Samba Wab Administration Tool) is I think waht I used to set mine up
[02:36] <binary2k2> bit like webmin
[02:37] <BluesKaj> ok thx ...wifes asleep already due to her early shifts ,, pc is in her bedroom ... we're an old married (40yrs together) couple
[02:37] <DaSkreech> For somereason I read pregnant in that sentence
[02:38] <goodthing> hehe
[02:38] <BluesKaj> she's retiring in may... I'll put linux on her new pc
[02:39] <binary2k2> ftp can be so much easier :p
[02:39] <BluesKaj> SWAT ...here we go
[02:39] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: You got it working?
[02:39] <JohnFlux> hmm what?
[02:40] <kpenrose> has anyone installed xemacs on 6.10 and gotten it to work?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, I really don't need to have access to this box from her pc ..but i want to have all options available :)
[02:40] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: xpenguins
[02:40] <JohnFlux> oh i didn't play with it
[02:41] <DaSkreech> :-(
[02:41] <goodthing> DaSkreech: what do you think, should i file a bug report for this?
[02:41] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: I know what you mean, I hardly ever need to access the this box from the windows one, but there's bound to be that one time I will :p
[02:42] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Again I think that it's a SATA thing but what can we use to eliminate that?
[02:42] <BluesKaj> I can do it from the windows partition if need be
[02:43] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: putty?
[02:43] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: yeah, I use that mostly
[02:43] <goodthing> DaSkreech: not much i guess, i think could have tried installing windowsxp..., but then it would not detect the other two disks because of the file systems...
[02:43] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: but sometimes it's easier to "mount the network drive" on windows
[02:45] <jorge_> hola necesito ayuda dee ubuntu
[02:45] <goodthing> but maybe it would at least view the disks, hmm, would that say anything?
[02:46] <crimsun_> jorge_: #kubuntu-es
[02:46] <jorge_> ok gracias
[02:46] <crimsun_> de nada
[02:47] <DaSkreech> how many sata connectors are there?
[02:47] <goodthing> DaSkreech: four for single use, four for raid
[02:47] <goodthing> and two IDE
[02:47] <DaSkreech> Wht happens if you put on on the raid?
[02:48] <goodthing> destroy my data i guess
[02:49] <goodthing> afaik raid needs to be used from the start of making "partitions"
[02:49] <DaSkreech> You can't JBOD it?
[02:51] <goodthing> i have no idea what that is, i've only heard of it
[02:53] <carlos> hello, i am running kubuntu 5.10. I'd like to update it to 6.10... what's the update process?
[02:54] <[Relic] > Anyone install firefox 2.0?
[02:54] <binary2k2> carlos: upgrade to 6.06 then to 6.10
[02:54] <carlos> and what i have to do?
[02:54] <carlos> and can't it be one shot? I mean from 5.10 to 6.10 is just 12 months :P
[02:55] <binary2k2> carlos: no, you really can't jump like that without messing things up
[02:55] <binary2k2> carlos: follow the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades then at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[02:56] <Jucato> !upgrade
[02:56] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:56] <Jucato> use that one for upgrading from Dapper to Edgy ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[02:56] <[Relic] > !firefox
[02:56] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:56] <carlos> Aw. I am goign to need to download like 1gb
[02:57] <binary2k2> yeah :p
[02:57] <binary2k2> but it's the only safe way
[02:57] <carlos> why couldn't i choose a rolling release distro
[02:57] <binary2k2> and i use safe quite loosely :p
[02:58] <binary2k2> because kubuntu has support cycles
[02:58] <carlos> Well I don't need upgrading so badly. I am happy where I am. Is good to have 3.4 KDE and 1.0.7 firefox.
[02:58] <binary2k2> as dose ubutnu
[02:59] <binary2k2> I like KDE 3.5.5 and firefox 2.0
[02:59] <binary2k2> but I'll soon got o feisty and see what thats got
[02:59] <carlos> pure markettng :P
[02:59] <binary2k2> nope, BUG FIXES :D
[03:00] <binary2k2> lots and lots of bug fises
[03:00] <binary2k2> *fixes
[03:02] <carlos> I have kubuntu on my laptop and arch on my desktop. I like arch and its package management system (very fast and easy to update after real long periods of time). But I like kubuntu for its easyness. XD
[03:03] <goodthing> hmm, and raid was a problem with the firmware version of one of my maxtor disks. Of course that firmware needs to be updates from inside windows.
[03:04] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Just A bunch of disks
[03:04] <goodthing> yeah i know, already looked it up
[03:04] <mankeletor> hi all
[03:04] <DaSkreech> goodthing: Essentially the same thign as disabling RAID
[03:05] <carlos> well
[03:05] <carlos> thanks for the help
[03:05] <carlos> Gotta run.
[03:05] <binary2k2> cya
[03:05] <carlos> tata binary2k2
[03:05] <mankeletor> how can I do for install yakuake in kubuntu? (sorry for the stupid question, im new with this distro)
[03:05] <goodthing> i could use raid ir jbod for the two maxtors, there are almost the same disks, only the age is a little different. But i yet do not trust my new disk to carry all my data
[03:06] <binary2k2> mankeletor: either use adept or "sudo apt-get install yakuake"
[03:07] <DaSkreech> Of course
[03:07] <DaSkreech> real men use Windows
[03:07] <goodthing> !
[03:07] <goodthing> are you sick?
[03:07] <DaSkreech> no Maxtor is
[03:08] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Do you have universe enabled?
[03:09] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: universe enabled?
[03:09] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: New to Kubuntu or new to LInux?
[03:09] <binary2k2> mankeletor: have you used debian before?
[03:09] <goodthing> i agree
[03:10] <mankeletor> never
[03:10] <mankeletor> i used slackware
[03:10] <binary2k2> ahh
[03:10] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Ah
[03:10] <DaSkreech> real men use slackware
[03:10] <binary2k2> from the top then
[03:10] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: lol
[03:10] <DaSkreech> mankeletor:
[03:11] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: I have compiled a lot of packages for slack
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Debian breaks the packages into catefories
[03:11] <DaSkreech> !universe
[03:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:11] <DaSkreech> You can read more there
[03:11] <DaSkreech> but in short yakuake is not maintained by Ubuntu so it's in the universe packages
[03:12] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: It's called series in slackware
[03:12] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: I take it you have no preference between cli or GUI?
[03:12] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Hmm I'll note that
[03:12] <binary2k2> on slack, he must be a cli veteran :p
[03:12] <mankeletor> xD
[03:13] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: doesn't mean he prefers it :)
[03:13] <binary2k2> why wouldn't you tho, gotta love hat console :D
[03:13] <binary2k2> s/hat/that/
[03:14] <DaSkreech> They need a gui SED :)
[03:14] <binary2k2> search and replace
[03:14] <binary2k2> uses regxp too
[03:14] <DaSkreech> blast
[03:14] <DaSkreech> does KDE do everything right!?!?!?
[03:14] <binary2k2> YES!!
[03:14] <binary2k2> :p
[03:15] <DaSkreech> No DaSkreech of kourse they dont
[03:15] <DaSkreech> goodthing: if you can do JBOD in RAID they don't need to be the same
[03:15] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: gui is nice :)
[03:16] <DaSkreech> ok press Alt+Space
[03:16] <DaSkreech> type adept
[03:16] <DaSkreech> press enter
[03:16] <binary2k2> of you have katapult
[03:16] <binary2k2> alt-f2 to get a run dialog
[03:16] <DaSkreech> s/of/oof :)
[03:16] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: Do I need to add more repositories to Adept?
[03:16] <binary2k2> yes, I was about to do that :p
[03:16] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: yes I was going to walk you through it
[03:17] <binary2k2> shame konversation doesn't have sed tho :p
[03:17] <DaSkreech> ubotu should
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about should - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <mankeletor> Adept is a GUI for apt-get?
[03:17] <DaSkreech> I think apt does
[03:17] <DaSkreech> Shut bot bot!
[03:17] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Yup
[03:17] <DaSkreech> what's the opposite of botsnack?
[03:17] <binary2k2> !botsnack
[03:17] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:18] <binary2k2> !botslap
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <DaSkreech> don't feed the thing!
[03:18] <binary2k2> aww :p
[03:19] <binary2k2> maybe I'll send a new feature request for a botslap
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Please do
[03:19] <DaSkreech>  and make it karmaed
[03:20] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: You can let me know when it's open :)
[03:20] <binary2k2> nano is much easier to add sources with
[03:20] <binary2k2> have i mentioned that i hate adept?
[03:20] <DaSkreech> yeah but he asked for GUI :)
[03:21] <binary2k2> synaptic :p
[03:21] <DaSkreech> what's the adept hate for?
[03:21] <tony__> hello. how can i creat a CD image ( recovery  ) of my new linux installation ?
[03:21] <binary2k2> but you need to install it with adept :p
[03:21] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: I just dislike the GUI and it's not as powerful as synaptic IMO
[03:22] <DaSkreech> Hmm I always get lost in Synaptic
[03:22] <DaSkreech> Not more powerful how?
[03:22] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: Im on it, Im seeing the repository manager
[03:22] <tony__> hello. how can i creat a CD image ( recovery  ) of my new linux installation ?
[03:23] <binary2k2> with synaptic you can hold packages, force versions, download changelogs and other stuff too
[03:23] <DaSkreech> right go down to the line that has edgy (I assume this is edgy) and universe
[03:23] <DaSkreech> Not edgy-backports
[03:23] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: touche that's my exact wishlist for adept
[03:23] <DaSkreech> tony__: I'm not sure what you are asking
[03:23] <binary2k2> and you can install java with it too :p
[03:24] <DaSkreech> you cn do that with adept
[03:24] <DaSkreech> it has two recommended packages that don't get installed. install them and you can install java and flash
[03:24] <binary2k2> it has (or had) problams letting you accept the license
[03:24] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: Yes I guess, It says ergy, ergy-update, and ergy-security
[03:24] <tony__> i installed linux , so , i need to creat recovery CD, so something happend , all i have to is to insert the cd and install linux will all the extar that i have installed
[03:25] <DaSkreech> edgy :)
[03:25] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Ok the one that says "*edgy universe" should be disabled
[03:25] <DaSkreech> hi Hobbsee
[03:25] <binary2k2> !backup | tony__
[03:25] <ubotu> tony__: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:26] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Klick on enable then double click the word universe
[03:26] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: btw do you use MP3s or you never touch the nasty things?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[03:26] <mankeletor> lol I use mp3's and ogg's
[03:27] <binary2k2> amarok installs mp3 support now, I think, i only use ogg :D
[03:27] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Right as I was saying double click the word universe and you should be able to edit it
[03:27] <httpdss> im having some font issue problem ... and not OOo related :D ... the thing is i have kde configured for DejaVu Sans .. size 11 ... my actual dpi is of 75 ... the thing is that when kde starts, the kicker font size is like 13 or 14 ... i do "killall kicker" and "kicker &" and up goes my really nice kicker with font size 11 ... someone can explain whats happening here ? where is kicker initialized ?
[03:27] <DaSkreech> add in a space after the word universe and type in multiverse
[03:28] <DaSkreech> once you do all that click apply and close it out. Back at the farm... I mean back in adept press fetch updates
[03:28] <TehKewl1> err... why doesnt dapper have GTK 2.10 yet?
[03:28] <TehKewl1> I thought it was long term support
[03:28] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: I'm on my way to only using ogg but untill people start shipping ogg hardware players mp3 is going to be around for a bit
[03:28] <tony__> ok , backup is good, but problme with back up is that , i have to install linux first and then restor my back up right ???
[03:29] <DaSkreech> tony__: First thing is that you should have a seperate home partition
[03:29] <tony__> what happens if i format my harddrive , can i use the back up to start all installation as soon as i boot the system
[03:29] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: my apple iPod nano, plays ogg :D
[03:29] <DaSkreech> that will save a load of heartache unless you like messing with your system a lot
[03:29] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: With ipod linux installed
[03:30] <tony__> there is only single user on this pc, so im not adding extra home partition
[03:30] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: I do have that installed, but it's not a good media player, I use RockBox
[03:30] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: After that just type in yakuake in the search box
[03:30] <DaSkreech> Link?
[03:30] <tony__> i need someting like GHOST dose for Window . creates the IMAGE of your hardrive and burns that on CD
[03:30] <vanique> Hi
[03:31] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: http://www.rockbox.org/
[03:32] <DaSkreech> How much compression does it use?
[03:32] <binary2k2> what ogg?
[03:32] <DaSkreech> !grue
[03:32] <ubotu> The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)
[03:32] <DaSkreech> no GHOST
[03:33] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: ogg has no compression
[03:33] <binary2k2> but it is better quality IMO
[03:33] <DaSkreech> I think you mean vorbis :)
[03:34] <binary2k2> damn you and your pedanticness :p
[03:34] <DaSkreech> Haha :)
[03:34] <DaSkreech> !shut up!
[03:34] <ubotu> :x
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Guess I'll have to live with that
[03:35] <binary2k2> no, I mean vorbis in an ogg container :p
[03:35] <DaSkreech> What would botslap elicit?
[03:36] <binary2k2> the bot will be upset with you, and will stop talking to you
[03:36] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:38] <hujciwdupe> i want to capture some old tapes into flacs or waves and clean them up a little , what would be the best app to do this
[03:38] <hujciwdupe> ?
[03:41] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: *universe is disabled now
[03:42] <BluesKaj> hujciwdupe, audacity might do it
[03:42] <mankeletor> binary2k2: I noticed that ogg have better audio quality than mp3
[03:43] <BluesKaj> wav and flac are best ..lossless
[03:43] <binary2k2> mankeletor: yeah, I can't notice the difference between a 64kbps ogg (vorbis) and a 128kbps mp3 :p
[03:43] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Umm You should enable it
[03:44] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: Ok, enabled now
[03:44] <DaSkreech> hujciwdupe: It's going to be a pain but you can google it pretty easily
[03:44] <DaSkreech> Not so much the capturing you can do that a whole bunch of ways but cleaning them is going to be painful
[03:44] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: did you add multiverse?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Hi
[03:46] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: nope
[03:46] <DaSkreech> ok double click the word universe
[03:46] <DaSkreech> you should be able to edit it
[03:46] <DaSkreech> put a space after the word and type in multiverse
[03:46] <mankeletor> done
[03:46] <DaSkreech> then click apply
[03:46] <hujciwdupe> ok , ty .,.,  i know goldwave is really good for that , buti think it only runs on windows
[03:46] <DaSkreech> close and click fetch updates
[03:46] <mankeletor> So i should change multiverse by universe?
[03:47] <DaSkreech> hujciwdupe: Audacity should have you covered
[03:47] <mankeletor> I mean, universe by multiverse
[03:47] <mankeletor> :P
[03:47] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: don't change universe to multiverse. add it beside it
[03:47] <DaSkreech> so it looks like "universe multiverse"
[03:47] <DaSkreech> then click apply
[03:48] <Jucato> (now DaSkreech probably realizes how difficult it is to explain how to add "multiverse" in Adept...)
[03:48] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: done
[03:48] <DaSkreech> click apply
[03:48] <hujciwdupe> will try audacity
[03:49] <ubuntu_> I am trying to restore Grub, how do I know what my boot partition number is_
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Jucato: it's normally pretty easy to pick up. I'm doing half explanations soit's probably my fault
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Maybe you can help goodthing.
[03:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. you're doing fine. based on (my and others) experience, it's always difficult explaining how to add multiverse
[03:50] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: after clicking apply when you get back to adept click fetch updates
[03:50] <mankeletor> done
[03:50] <hujciwdupe> was anyone unable to connect to wireless network even tho everything was setup right with 6.10?
[03:50] <_goofy_> how do i mount a drive so i have read/write abilitys for owner, groupe, and "other"
[03:50] <Jucato> DaSkreech: the success rate of people successfully adding multiverse, using the guide from the Wikis, is less than 50%, imho
[03:50] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: after the update type in yakuake in the search box
[03:50] <phobiac> ubuntu_: Tricky question. Do you have Qtparted or Gparted installed?
[03:51] <ubuntu_> phobiac: I am runninng Live CD right now so I the installer can tell me
[03:51] <ubuntu_> but I dont know how to translate hdc5 for grub for eg
[03:51] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: After, request install, Aply the changes... done.
[03:51] <Jucato> ubuntu_: hdc5 will be hd2,4 afaik
[03:52] <Jucato> GRUB starts from 0, the usual hd** starts from 1
[03:52] <Jucato> a, b, c, d = 0, 1, 2, 3; hdc = hd2
[03:52] <phobiac> ubuntu_: If you have access to your Fstab it should be able to tell you which partition is which.
[03:53] <ubuntu_> grub> root (hd2,4)
[03:53] <ubuntu_> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[03:53] <Jucato> are you sure it's on hdc5?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Umm sure... When I reach that section I'll tell you :)
[03:53] <ubuntu_> thats the / partition of my Kubuntu installation
[03:53] <DaSkreech> You may also want to look at libxine-extracodecs
[03:53] <ubuntu_> but Ive installed Win XP for tests and it removed grub obviously
[03:53] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: thank you very much :)
[03:54] <Jucato> hm...
[03:54] <Jucato> !grub | ubuntu_
[03:54] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:54] <Jucato> try following that guide...
[03:54] <phobiac> I think the windows recovery guide gives you instructions on how to restore grub with the Live CD too.
[03:55] <Jucato> oh, btw, if you type in the grub prompt "find /boot/grub/stage1", it will output which partitions contain the /boot directory
[03:55] <ubuntu_> yes, i was following this, Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[03:55] <ubuntu_> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[03:55] <ubuntu_> Error 15: File not found
[03:55] <ubuntu_> I dont know whats the problem
[03:55] <Jucato> hm... that looks bad...
[03:55] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: can i use apt-get too?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Oh I love kaffiene btw :)
[03:56] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Yup
[03:56] <DaSkreech> man apt-get and go crazy
[03:56] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I loved kaffeine
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ed?
[03:56] <Jucato> yes
[03:56] <Jucato> I'm looking towards KPlayer right now... because of some issues I'm having with Kaffeine
[03:57] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: If you wanna go crazy you should try to compile KDE yourself
[03:57] <mankeletor> lol
[03:57] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: that's krazy FYI
[03:57] <DaSkreech> What issues?
[03:57] <DaSkreech> I just discoverd if you jump desktop when a video is playing and it's up it pauses the video till you come back
[03:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: some .mkv videos do not play properly (maybe a Xine thing), a slightly bad (just imho) UI, and inconsistent (from the rest of KDE) mouse wheel behavior
[03:58] <Jucato> small things... but they annoy me :P
[03:59] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: http://www.kwort.org/staticpages/index.php?page=20060903213413709 <-- See who is the KDE maintainer of that distro
[04:00] <Jucato> second on the list...
[04:00] <hujciwdupe> is i586 same as x84 same as 32bit ?
[04:00] <mankeletor> yup
[04:00] <mankeletor> hujciwdupe: nope
[04:00] <ant_> x86
[04:01] <BluesKaj> does hotmail still publish the senders IP addy in the header ?
[04:01] <mankeletor> i586 means pentium I and above
[04:01] <ant_> it means the processor your using is a p2
[04:01] <ant_> well pre p3
[04:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Kaffiene is pretty inconsistent. what mouse whell behaviour?
[04:01] <mankeletor> i686 p2 and above
[04:02] <hujciwdupe> ahhh
[04:02] <luca> hi everyone
[04:02] <mankeletor> hi luca
[04:02] <luca> can someone helpme restoring OpenGL on my pc?
[04:03] <Jucato> DaSkreech: in almost all KDE apps (specially KDE multimedia apps), scrolling the mouse wheel up moves the sliders forward (to the right/up), and scrolling it down moves the sliders backward (to the left/down). It's the reverse in Kaffeine
[04:03] <hujciwdupe> does wireless networking on linux work with anything besides WEP?
[04:03] <luca> hi mankeletor
[04:03] <luca> hujciwdupe try wifi-radar
[04:03] <luca> I believe it has wpa support
[04:03] <morgWork> gah, anyone else having wireless issues with a freshly installed 6.10 on an IBM T42 Thinkpad? I'm checking the forums but not seeing much
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Ha ha :-) never noticed it before. I suppose that's a easy patch
[04:04] <Jucato> easy for who? :P
[04:04] <DaSkreech> anyone who is annoyed enough by it to look
[04:04] <hujciwdupe> luca,ty will try
[04:04] <Jucato> it's been like that since I remember (breezy). either the devs don't know about it, or they don't want to change it
[04:04] <Jucato> in either case, it doesn't solve my other problem (.mkv)
[04:05] <DaSkreech> Jucato: filed bugs on any of this?
[04:05] <Jucato> hehe anyway... gtg :P
[04:05] <DaSkreech> seeya!
[04:05] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nope... not really interested in filing one yet... maybe one of these days :P
[04:05] <luca> hujciwdupe np :)
[04:06] <hujciwdupe> morgWork,, whats your problem with wireless, im having wireless problems too
[04:07] <morgWork> hujciwdupe: it's unable to set channels with ipwconfig for starters
[04:07] <morgWork> wlassistant doesn't like it, kwlan doesn't either
[04:07] <morgWork> wpa_supplicant is a no go as well
[04:08] <morgWork> it can see networks via iwlist eth1 scanning, but can't really do much with it
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Can't wget download real files? not just HTML files?
[04:09] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: yes
[04:09] <morgWork> DaSkreech: wget can download pretty much anything
[04:09] <luca> anyone willing to help me with opengl?
[04:09] <DaSkreech> then why the back side won't it listen to me?
[04:09] <hujciwdupe> morgWork, i can see my network but no matte what i do , it will not connect to it , something is messed up with the wep key
[04:10] <ubuntu> Hi, I've got a problem with a harddisk. I just made a backup to one harddisk, and now I'm trying to copy it to another one. The copying is pretty slow, and after some while, I always get some "Input/Output" Erorrs. If I unmount and remount hte partition, I can copy some more stuff, but the harddisk seems to be brocken - right?
[04:10] <ubuntu> What can I do to figure out what's wrong with it?
[04:10] <DaSkreech> wget -rc http://horus.gasid.org.uk/wf/
[04:10] <DaSkreech> gives me a 404 index.html not found
[04:10] <morgWork> hujciwdupe: yeah, it's a pain in the ass. I had a t42 previously, but it was a t42p, which used ipw2200 rather than 2100 and it worked great
[04:11] <BluesKaj> i have swat (Samba Web Admin Tool) in the form of a *.gz file ...how am I supposed to handle this file if it 's always cpmpressed ..it won't open into a normal file ...looks a lot like HTML or PDF
[04:11] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: it's in the repositorys (edgy)
[04:12] <hujciwdupe> morgWork, doent it set the channel utomatically when it connects to the network it detected?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> What am I doing wrong?
[04:13] <BluesKaj> yeah binary2k2 , I installed it with synaptic ...this form of file is strange
[04:14] <luca> ubuntu check permissions of the files
[04:14] <luca> ubuntu they could be mesisng things up
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Or can someone start wget on that URL and tell me what they typed in :)
[04:14] <luca> nobody for opengl? :(
[04:14] <ubuntu> luca: 664 on every file and 775 on every dir, I'm the owner
[04:15] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: you should just go to http://localhost:901/
[04:15] <DaSkreech> luca: #ubuntu-xgl would be a good placeto try as well
[04:15] <luca> ubuntu doh not really understandng, you seem to know more :)
[04:15] <Agent_bob> what device is a scaner (MFD)  ?
[04:15] <luca> DaSkreech: I am there, and the last post was mine.......20 minutes ago
[04:15] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[04:16] <mankeletor> anyone knows how to make a debian package?
[04:16] <mankeletor> i need to compile amule
[04:16] <DaSkreech> you should be able to install it without compiling
[04:17] <luca> mankeletor: all I know is that checkinstall can create deb files.....type sudo checkinstall instead of sudo make install
[04:17] <BluesKaj> yeah, binary2k2 thx , i just discovered that :)
[04:17] <luca> does nobody want to help me? :(
[04:18] <DaSkreech> What's the problem?
[04:18] <luca> no opengl
[04:18] <Agent_bob> anyone know the device node for a usb connected MFD scanner ?
[04:18] <DaSkreech> It sounds like you had it before
[04:18] <phobiac> mankeletor, there's something called alien that can convert files to debian packages
[04:18] <luca> when i try to open a program requiring it i receive a message which says xlib: no glx option for screen 0:0
[04:19] <DaSkreech> morgWork: How do I get wget to mirror a folder?
[04:19] <luca> DaSkreech: yeah I had it.......but I messed around with video drivers
[04:19] <DaSkreech> luca: What drivers do you hve installed and waht video card
[04:19] <DaSkreech> !opengl
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <morgWork> DaSkreech: no clue off hand, check the man page...
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Well it said -r for recursive
[04:19] <morgWork> hujciwdupe: nope
[04:19] <luca> DaSkreech I have an intel 82855 with i810 as driver
[04:19] <morgWork> it doesn't change the channel at all
[04:20] <DaSkreech> but I guess recurcive needs a HTML page to start off
[04:20] <morgWork> ok, I need to reboot, brb
[04:20] <luca> the driver has some problems at resuming after suspend
[04:20] <mankeletor> i prefer to make packages myself, i dont like to much alien and checkinstall
[04:20] <phobiac> Alright, just thought that might help you.
[04:21] <luca> I messed around with xgl and beryl and video drivers and now suspend functions....do not understand perfectly why
[04:21] <luca> but no opengl
[04:22] <binary2k2> super cow powers at work :p
[04:25] <DaSkreech> do you have glx in your xorg.conf?
[04:25] <intelikey> anyone know the device node for a usb connected MFD scanner ?    or howto set it up ?
[04:25] <arunkale> Hey, people
[04:25] <intelikey> or where to get info ?
[04:25] <luca> DaSkreech: where should i be?
[04:25] <luca> it
[04:26] <arunkale> I want to try out the Ubuntu (Gnome) -- how do I go about it?
[04:26] <phobiac> arunkale: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <arunkale> phobiac: what happens after it's installed?
[04:27] <phobiac> Then you'll be able to start a session running gnome at your login screen.
[04:27] <binary2k2> you'll get a choice when you login to start gnome or kde
[04:27] <DaSkreech> luca: /etc/X11
[04:27] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Doesn't the Kontrol Center have a ahardware info section?
[04:27] <arunkale> ah thanks.. so how big is the download?
[04:27] <phobiac> You can click the options menu on the side to choose to change the session, or do alt+t and the menu will pop up.
[04:28] <luca> DaSkreech: I meant in the file :)
[04:28] <phobiac> I went the other way around. Started with gnome and switched to kde. It took a little while for me, not unbearable though.
[04:28] <arunkale> like 100 mb?
[04:28] <DaSkreech> *shrugs* just grep it
[04:28] <luca> DaSkreech: I hav been modifying that little text file doxens of times now.... :(
[04:28] <DaSkreech> If you don't have it then you don't have opengl
[04:28] <DaSkreech> I was wondering
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Kinda hard to have beryl and not know where that file is
[04:29] <phobiac> It installs the gnome pacakages like gaim, gedit, and such. So it takes a while.
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Anyone want to shed some light on the wget terminology?
[04:29] <arunkale> ah okay, thanks :)
[04:29] <luca> DaSkreech what command should I issue?
[04:29] <phobiac> No problem.
[04:29] <arunkale> ok, so i just need to use the sudo command, nothing else?
[04:29] <DaSkreech> cause it obviously doesn't speak english
[04:30] <DaSkreech> luca: grep gls /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[04:30] <DaSkreech> luca: grep glx /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[04:30] <luca> I have a Load "glx" which I myself added
[04:30] <luca> nothing else
[04:31] <DaSkreech> That should do it
[04:31] <luca> it is under modules
[04:31] <arunkale> phobiac: is gnome faster than kde?
[04:31] <luca> DaSkreech it does not however :(
[04:31] <phobiac> arunkale: Same speed for me.
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah I know but that's the first step to opengl As i understand it
[04:31] <DaSkreech>  what error are you getting?
[04:32] <luca> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:32] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: The Distro uses XFCE?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> what drivers are you using?
[04:32] <phobiac> arunkale: If you're used to kde's one toolbar it might be a little odd to use gnome's default two toolbars though.
[04:32] <BluesKaj> hmmm, my samba vers is smb4k and the samba web admin tool is written for vers 3.0 ...wondering if there's an upgrade problem
[04:33] <DaSkreech> nv? nividia? ati? fgrlx? vesa?
[04:33] <luca> DaSkreech: i810
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Hmm that should work as well
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Well that's about as much as my knowldege goes
[04:33] <luca> DaSkreech I know because it did :(
[04:33] <DaSkreech> luca: Perhaps ##linux ?
[04:34] <luca> eh thx anyways
[04:34] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: if you're talking about Kwort, yes
[04:34] <luca> I will look into it later.... :(
[04:34] <arunkale> phobiac: is it easy to uninstall gnome later?
[04:35] <phobiac> arunkale: You should be able to use adept to purge ubuntu-desktop and it should unistall all the related packages.
[04:35] <phobiac> Note though, should. I can't gaurentee no problems will occur.
[04:36] <arunkale> ok.. thanks
[04:37] <arunkale> how much space does it require?
[04:37] <arunkale> my kubuntu partition is like 10GB i think
[04:37] <phobiac> If you use the command line it should tell you and ask you before going through with the install how much space it requires.
[04:37] <arunkale> alright
[04:37] <arunkale> thanks
[04:37] <binary2k2> 10GB is fine for a decent install
[04:37] <phobiac> It's less then 1gb though.
[04:38] <arunkale> thanks a lot man
[04:38] <phobiac> And the worst that happens is you uninstall a package you didn't want to. Easy enough to fix that.
[04:39] <sirjinx> Hi. Can some help me customise the kde menu? Could some point me in the right direction of setting it up so it looks like the one in opensuse?
[04:39] <[Relic] > 6.10 considered the lastest stable release?
[04:39] <binary2k2> 6.10 is the latest stable release yes
[04:39] <matthew> [Relic] , yes
[04:39] <DaSkreech> !kickoff
[04:39] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:39] <DaSkreech> sirjinx: There you go
[04:39] <[Relic] > time to back up everything and install 6.10 then  :)
[04:40] <sirjinx> thanks, it was what I was looking for :)
[04:40] <binary2k2> [Relic]  good luck with that
[04:40] <DaSkreech> It's called kickoff for future google searches :)
[04:40] <matthew> [Relic] , worked good for me!
[04:40] <DaSkreech> binary2k2: used wget to mirror a directory before?
[04:41] <binary2k2> DaSkreech: I haven't but I think it can be done
[04:41] <binary2k2> man wget has all the answers :p
[04:41] <phobiac> arunkale: And no problem. Good luck with the install. It's always nice to try something new, that was my main reason for even switching to linux in the first place.
[04:41] <DaSkreech> No It doesn't. It doesn't speak english
[04:41] <[Relic] > got a new MB & CPU so I figure a fresh install would be best
[04:42] <binary2k2> [Relic] : linux won't care if you change your HD and CPU, it will just work
[04:42] <arunkale> phobiac: same here :)
[04:42] <binary2k2> or MB too
[04:42] <Admiral_Chicago> HDD, maybe...if it has your partition on it..
[04:42] <STD> I need help :/ I don't have the option for treble or bass control in the alsamixer D: I have logitech z-2400 speakers and I'm getting no bass sound out of them x_X
[04:42] <binary2k2> yeah, i meant 'MB' not 'HD' :p
[04:42] <[Relic] > :)
[04:43] <[Relic] > just want it to be clean  :)
[04:43] <[Relic] > good excuse to back up all the 3d art files too :)
[04:44] <mankeletor> ubotu: it looks nice
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it looks nice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <Admiral_Chicago> mankeletor: that's a robot
[04:46] <Lam_> amarok can play flac out of the box, right?
[04:46] <mankeletor> Admiral_Chicago: hmm I being crazy
[04:46] <phobiac> Lam_: I'm pretty sure it can
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Lam_: i believe so
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> flac = open format?
[04:47] <Lam_> i think it might be
[04:47] <mankeletor> ubotu: !help
[04:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:47] <matthew> flac == full lossless audio codec?
[04:47] <Admiral_Chicago> if it's an open format like ogg it will
[04:48] <mankeletor> flac == for loosers audio codec :P
[04:49] <matthew> mankeletor, why do you say that?
[04:49] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: it is an open format
[04:49] <mankeletor> matthew: joke xD
[04:49] <matthew> ah...oh right, lol
[04:49] <Admiral_Chicago> thank Jucato
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> oh I did 8/10 chapters, so now all i have lab reports and a final
[04:50] <Jucato> :)
[04:52] <goodthing> DaSkreech: still there? You know what is even mote weird? The data on the partition which should contain edgy minus the /home folder only carries a folder home (empty) and a folder media (with enpty folders). Still, if i boot from is with two disks, i have a living system FROM THAT PARTITION. I tell you, it is spooky in here...
[04:52] <goodthing> *more
[04:52] <DaSkreech> what is it formatted as?
[04:52] <goodthing> ext3
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Jucato: used wget?
[04:53] <Jucato> DaSkreech: for?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Mirroring a folder
[04:53] <Jucato> um... nope
[04:53] <DaSkreech> mirroring anything?
[04:53] <spawn57> how do i run konqueror as root?
[04:54] <Jucato> spawn57: kdesu konqueror
[04:54] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nope...
[04:54] <DaSkreech> spawn57: kdesu konqueror
[04:54] <spawn57> ah thanx
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Blast
[04:56] <DaSkreech> I lose
[04:56] <Dark_Oppressor> is there some kind of program that will give me a nice visual representation of my harddrive and how much space different directories are using?
[04:57] <mankeletor> adept have found frozen-bubble :D awesome!
[04:58] <goodthing> hmm, let's download a newer debian and see what that does
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Dark_Oppressor: yes, i forget the name
[04:59] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Old one though
[04:59] <DaSkreech> The new one has network multiplay :)
[04:59] <phobiac> Bye all
[05:00] <Dark_Oppressor> Admiral_Chicago: if you happen to remember the name let me know :P
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> sure
[05:01] <rance> I have a problem with KDE getting EXCLUSIVE access to the sound device, is there any way to make that SHARED access?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Bloody wget
[05:04] <luca> hi again
[05:04] <luca> found the problem, I have a sticky nvidia-glx driver
[05:05] <DaSkreech> sticky?
[05:06] <luca> doesn't uninstall
[05:06] <jerp> So I'm trying to install Gnash from Adept and I get a 'break(install)' in red letters when I make the request.  What's up?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Ah
[05:06] <luca> it says that there is a file in /usr/X11R6/lib/nvidia which does not want to be changed
[05:06] <rance> jerp: it means that there is a bug in that package that will break your install
[05:06] <luca> I have taken all files and put them in home...let us see
[05:06] <Jucato> jerp: try to install it through apt-get to get more descriptive error messages, or try to click on Preview Changes in Adept when you request install gnash
[05:07] <luca> uh uh done!
[05:07] <luca> rebooting!
[05:07] <Jucato> rebooting?
[05:07] <Jucato> :O
[05:07] <Dr_willis> DasBOoting!
[05:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:07] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: yeah, I was testing mandriva 2007 and got it
[05:08] <jerp> thanks rance and jucato, I'll give it a try
[05:08] <[Relic] > how do I tell how my HD is divided up?
[05:09] <ablyss> there are a few ways
[05:09] <goodthing> one can install debian from the first cd right?
[05:09] <ablyss> they're*
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Booting me?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> mankeletor: Frozen bubble?
[05:09] <goodthing> debian has 15 cd's o_0
[05:09] <DaSkreech> goodthing: first two I think
[05:10] <Dr_willis> [Relic] ,  sudo fdisk -l /dev/whatever
[05:10] <goodthing> thx
[05:11] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: yes
[05:12] <[Relic] > 1 have 3 partitions, I need to mount the last one
[05:12] <[Relic] > and it isn't in fstab
[05:13] <mankeletor> DaSkreech: hmm i remember i got from the mandriva repositories with "urpmi --auto frozen-bubble"
[05:16] <Dr_willis> [Relic] ,  mount it manually, or add a fstab entry for it then.
[05:16] <[Relic] > no fstab can't seem to get it to mount manually either, not sure what I am doing wrong
[05:17] <Dr_willis> whats the fstab entry you are using..
[05:17] <jerp> jucato, my 'preview changes' have other files there with nothing requested to install... libsdl-mixer1.2 libsmpeg0 libmad0 libaa1
[05:17] <Dr_willis> [Relic] ,  and #1 -- the MOUNT point must exist befor you mount it.
[05:17] <Jucato> jerp: hm... Adept isn't very helpful... how about apt-get?
[05:18] <jerp> jucato, I didn't request intsall of gnash but there are those files "lurking", I haven't tried that yet
[05:19] <Jucato> jerp: I meant to request install gnash, then click Preview Changes. but try apt-get, it might be more helpful
[05:20] <[Relic] > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
[05:20] <[Relic] >        missing codepage or other error
[05:20] <[Relic] >        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:20] <[Relic] >        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:21] <[Relic] > assuming it is trying to mount that section properly but having a problem
[05:21] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:22] <jerp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37289/
[05:22] <jerp> jucato, there it is if you're interested
[05:23] <Dr_willis> [Relic] ,  thats saying 'your command/fstab line' is wrong....
[05:23] <jerp> I  used that raof repository
[05:24] <jerp> maybe I should delete that from my list
[05:24] <Jucato> try to comment/disable unnecessary/unofficial repos... might be causing problems
[05:24] <jerp> ok
[05:25] <gebruiker> linux
[05:26] <mankeletor> nice, im looking the binary file in /usr/bin, most files are stripped :)
[05:27] <[Relic] > cannot find any way this will work
[05:30] <jerp> jucato, is there a way to disable or remove those from the adept list?  wait, what's that purge command in apt-get?  could you direct me with the proper command?
[05:30] <[Relic] > how does one format a disk section?
[05:30] <Jucato> jerp: in Adept, you go to View -> Manage Repositories. right-click on the line and select Disable
[05:31] <jerp> I went into sources.list with nano and used the uncomment #
[05:31] <jerp> or comment actually
[05:32] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37290/plain/
[05:32] <intelikey> can anyone tell me what's going on there ?
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: looking now
[05:32] <jerp> so how do I get a fresh gnash that isn't bugged
[05:32] <jerp> run apt-get update?
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> modprobe sg what does htat sy
[05:34] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago no change.
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> what was the output?
[05:34] <intelikey> nothing
[05:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, to be honest i don't know much about printing.
[05:35] <intelikey> the printer works fine.  but there seems to be no scanner there.
[05:36] <intelikey> and yes the hardware is there....
[05:36] <intelikey> module did load btw
[05:36] <intelikey> ttyp0 [greg@~]  lsmod | grep sg
[05:36] <intelikey> sg                     37920  0
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> whats in /etc/modules?
[05:37] <intelikey> lp and scsimod  are all that might relate
[05:37] <intelikey> err scsi_mod actually
[05:38] <intelikey> the rest is sound drivers specific for the box
[05:41] <intelikey> i got the .deb's from the manufacturer and installed the printer and cups warper seem ok.  but i have hailed to get anything out of the scanner   the scanner .deb installs ok but xsane says no device found and you saw the pastebin.
[05:41] <intelikey> hailed/failed
[05:42] <intelikey>  12. found USB scanner (vendor=0x04f9, product=0x01ba) at libusb:001:002
[05:42] <intelikey> 26. No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
[05:46] <intelikey> ?
[05:47] <xsacha> 26 scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
[05:48] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a firefox plugin that allows you keep the search bar at the bottom of the page between sessions?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Ah man I'm loving on kio slaves now
[05:54] <poquedoraqu> My girlfriend got a new HP computer that came with winblowz, and we just tried to resize its partition so that kubuntu could squeeze in... but the windows partition is displayed in red, and when you try to resize it says "couldnt check disk, totally 3 clusters"
[05:56] <poquedoraqu> windows didnt put a block on it did they?
[05:58] <xsacha> mm just format windows? :)
[05:59] <poquedoraqu> Everyone says that lol :D But i cant get her to give up some of the windows stuff she likes.
[05:59] <xsacha> like?
[06:00] <xsacha> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/12/15/2234216.shtml ;P
[06:00] <poquedoraqu> A fish tank program she got that doubles as a screensaver, and a male stripper for her desktop.
[06:00] <poquedoraqu> Wine wasnt able to handle them
[06:00] <xsacha> a male stripper?
[06:00] <poquedoraqu> yeah lol
[06:01] <xsacha> so she's gonna boot up windows whenever she needs her fish tank and male stripper?
[06:01] <poquedoraqu> yes <
[06:01] <xsacha> just give her my number
[06:01] <hujciwdupe> how do i update firmware on a wireless lancard? i only have a bin file
[06:01] <poquedoraqu> lol
[06:01] <xsacha> i'll come around with a real fish tank
[06:02] <poquedoraqu> She likes sitting down with a big 3d desktop and having her little animated male dancer jump up now and then.  Thats *soooo* not hard.
[06:04] <DaSkreech> poquedoraqu: I'll put 10 dollars in your belt if you call them up and they don't say What is linux?
[06:04] <poquedoraqu> DaSkreech: LOL im sure you're right
[06:04] <xsacha> have you looked around for a linux version of a male stripper program?
[06:05] <poquedoraqu> no such thing
[06:05] <DaSkreech> I serverly doubt there is one
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Not a big enough itch
[06:05] <poquedoraqu> So nobody's going to help me with the un-re-sizable partition
[06:05] <DaSkreech> and who would they model? Stallman?
[06:05] <poquedoraqu> ???
[06:05] <xsacha> poquedoraqu: just make a video of you stripping every day
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Heaven (and a few otehr regalutory bodies) forbid
[06:06] <poquedoraqu> Come on guys >.<
[06:06] <xsacha> "At the Desktop Linux Conference in Boston, Red Hat and IBM detailed their desktop Linux plans. ... Danny DeVito will guest star as a male stripper"
[06:07] <xsacha> read: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=male+stripper+desktop+linux+%22Advanced+Combo+Tricks%22
[06:07] <poquedoraqu> Kubuntu's partition manager... help?
[06:07] <intelikey> poquedoraqu: boot windows turn fertual memory off and (after the restart) run scandisk and defrag   for m windows.   then try the resize.
[06:07] <unix_infidel> xsacha: the American Sit-Com "Friends" already tried that with little success.
[06:07] <unix_infidel> You'd think IBM and RH would learn :)
[06:07] <xsacha> :P
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Redhat should be very happy
[06:07] <unix_infidel> RedHat is bajillions of reasons to be happy.
[06:07] <unix_infidel> has*
[06:08] <poquedoraqu> intelikey: how fragged could it be? its been out of he package one day
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Java GPL being number Two?
[06:08] <intelikey> poquedoraqu ok don't  it's your box.
[06:08] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: Java is now GPL?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> poquedoraqu: Doesn't mean anything. On install windows throws files anywhere
[06:08] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Ehh close enough :)
[06:08] <poquedoraqu> intelikey: So windows basically blocked the partition so i cant install linux
[06:09] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: the VM or the compiler?
[06:09] <xsacha> you see the french law that would suggest that a computer and OS should be sold seperately? and HP is trying to say they need to be sold together
[06:09] <xsacha> 'The PC without an OS is not a product because it doesn't work,' said Alain Spitzmuller, legal affairs director for HP France. 'We believe the market is for products that work.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: both
[06:09] <unix_infidel> or is this some nerd TOMFOOLERY!
[06:09] <intelikey> poquedoraqu no windows basically has files at the end of the partition and the partition can't be resized in that condition
[06:09] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: what do you mean by close enough?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> poquedoraqu: defrag
[06:09] <poquedoraqu> *sigh* well, if no one can help me, she's rushing me. Ill try defrag
[06:09] <poquedoraqu> thanks
[06:09] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Announced but not GPLed fully till March 2007
[06:10] <intelikey> scandisk && defrag    then resize.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> They have put down there word ( and a  website) though
[06:10] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: I doubt it'll be of little consequence.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Why?
[06:10] <unix_infidel> erm, i should say, I doubt it'll be of any consequence.
[06:10] <intelikey> if you don't disable the pagefile (vertual memory)  you are spitting in the wind.
[06:11] <DaSkreech> again Why?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Distros can now ship with Java in it
[06:11] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  hmm.. makes me stare at my MythTVlive cd, and GeeXBoX Live cd.. :)
[06:11] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: its not like any Linux user doesn't know where to get java with a few clicks.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Java - such an Interesting History of that product...
[06:11] <unix_infidel> It's like asking a kid where to get drugs even when he's not suppose to have easy access to it.
[06:12] <unix_infidel> He ALWAYS knows where to find some.
[06:12] <intelikey> it might even be like some linux users don't even want java
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Yeah but two things. one you can ship with it no complaints and people acn actually start making the bloody VM work well now
[06:12] <intelikey> i can name at least one  :)
[06:12] <DaSkreech>  It's like Flash
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Id rather have java ,,, and no flash. :)
[06:12] <unix_infidel> Like i said, It'll be of little consequence.  Unless there's a DEDICATED project that manages the virtual machine and makes the development toolkits USABLE!
[06:13] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: WEll I don't know about usable
[06:13] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: mind your words.  AS2 is exponentially faster than java.
[06:13] <DaSkreech> look at OO.o
[06:13] <intelikey> i'd rather have no flash and no java
[06:13] <Dr_willis> unix_infidel,  dosent matter much to me...
[06:13] <xsacha> why?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Seriously?
[06:13] <intelikey> yes
[06:13] <xsacha> then no youtube :(
[06:13] <DaSkreech> You'd prefer a flat html www?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  and that would be a good thing.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:13] <xsacha> lynx ftw
[06:14] <DaSkreech> xsacha: w3m :)
[06:14] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: most end users dont care what they use.  As long as the content is available.  Flash is the better content presentation and management platform, hands down
[06:14] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: what about OO.org
[06:14] <Dr_willis> I tend to 'print' many web sites...    so whats in it for me.. heh heh
[06:14] <DaSkreech> It sucks
[06:14] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: i dont think so, neither do a lot of people.
[06:15] <intelikey> yes i have a low openion of OO also.
[06:15] <DaSkreech> It's one huge application that has different views and a dev community that seems to lumber on not really listening to people outside it
[06:15] <DaSkreech> It's done a lot
[06:15] <DaSkreech> But that doesn't mean it could be a hell of a lot better
[06:16] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: The major revolution with Java going towards GPL will undoubtedbly be a new movement in developing alternatives to Swing.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> intelikey: What do you have against flash style interaction?
[06:16] <dan_> ok i'm really tired of using opera can someone please help me get firefox going again
[06:16] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: I'm fairly sure anyone could do that before
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Hmm apparently there is a female stripper program for linux
[06:16] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: A lot of talented people wont touch anything that's proprietary for tons of good reasons.
[06:16] <dan_> nice
[06:17] <xsacha> DaSkreech: yeah of course lol
[06:17] <xsacha> DaSkreech: but there's no demand for male strippers
[06:17] <dan_> so can anyone help me please
[06:17] <DaSkreech> !firefox
[06:17] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:17] <mikemike> first day-just  testing
[06:17] <DaSkreech> dan_: There you go
[06:17] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: Oh yeah propietary is mostly evil etc
[06:17] <dan_> well no i have it it just crashes upon opening
[06:18] <intelikey> DaSkreech i'm not trying to persuaid you.   i don't need to list all the things i don't like about something to not like it.    it would be much easier to list the things that one does like about the things he does like.
[06:18] <dan_> but i'll check it out
[06:18] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: I was asking intelikey why he has something against the concept of flash style interaction
[06:18] <Dark_Oppressor> what would you guys suggest for an irc server?
[06:18] <hujciwdupe> anyone know how to compile the drivers for ralink lancards
[06:18] <unix_infidel> define: "Flash style interaction"
[06:19] <DaSkreech> intelikey: at least let me get this straight. are you against the technology of flash, the license or the implementation?
[06:20] <intelikey> the license and the implementation  seeing that i havent studied the tech.....     but in fact i was asking for help with a scanner part of a mfd
[06:20] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:20] <dan_> ok ya those sites didnt help
[06:20] <dan_> can someone help me get my shit goin please
[06:21] <intelikey> yeah dan_ that's how i feel too.
[06:21] <dan_> lol
[06:21] <Dr_willis> rephrase the problem in a clear/precise way. :)
[06:21] <max_> what cant you get going?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> 'please state the nature of the linux emergancy' :)
[06:21] <dan_> ok, when i start up firefox 2.0 it crashes the instant a page starts to load i.e. yahoo
[06:22] <Dr_willis> dan_,  sounds like a plugin/extension issue.
[06:22] <max_> i had that problem, trying to think how to fix
[06:22] <dan_> i have no plugins or extension installed
[06:22] <max_> !fff
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <max_> !ff
[06:22] <dan_> but maybe lemme install it and check it out
[06:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:22] <arunkale> umm i did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. now i've changed my mind mid way and dont want to install gnome, how do i cancel it and remove all the stuff that's been downloaded?
[06:23] <max_> dan_:flash causes it to crash
[06:23] <Dr_willis> dan_,  as a 'test' try making a new user and see if it crashes for them also.
[06:23] <dan_> grrr flash
[06:23] <dan_> thats the problem i knew it
[06:23] <dan_> well wtf it didnt do that with dapper
[06:23] <max_> it didnt do it with 105
[06:23] <max_> 1.5*
[06:23] <dan_> ya
[06:23] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37290/plain/  this is my problem.    any fixers ?
[06:23] <dan_> but i had 2.0 in dapper and it worked
[06:24] <mikemike> I have a question.  I have a PLC that will write information to a txt file through a java applet server in a specific directory on a server.  I am passing information && commands to an AS400.  How does the AS400 get that info.  I'm thinking FTP transfer-but what triggers the transfer.  Does the AS400 poll? or is there another way?-obviously I'm not a programmer.  I can write programs in a few languages-but I don't know the system yet.  Any help would be
[06:24] <Zamber> xgl/beryl + xglgears = crash
[06:24] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:25] <DaSkreech> a computer
[06:25] <Dr_willis> ya cant have the other machine use ssh/scp to grab the data?
[06:25] <dan_> ok ya when i hit stop before the page loads then it doesnt crash
[06:25] <mikemike> AS400 is Unix mini
[06:25] <dan_> but now what?
[06:26] <linux8> sorry, question about "alien"
[06:26] <max_> go for it linux8
[06:26] <intelikey> yes that is a sorry question
[06:27] <intelikey> :)
[06:27] <linux8> i can't run command alien
[06:27] <arunkale> umm i did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. now i've changed my mind mid way and dont want to install gnome, how do i cancel it and remove all the stuff that's been downloaded?
[06:27] <max_> whats the error?
[06:27] <max_> arunkale: tried sudo apt-get remove?
[06:27] <intelikey> arunkale ^C
[06:28] <intelikey> ctrl-c
[06:28] <max_> linux8: what error do you get?
[06:28] <arunkale> thanks intelikey
[06:28] <intelikey> as for the removing apt-get clean
[06:28] <arunkale> will that delete all the downloaded files as well
[06:28] <arunkale> oh ok.. 'sudo apt-get clean' ?
[06:28] <arunkale> that'sit?
[06:28] <intelikey> yes
[06:28] <max_> why thank him?
[06:28] <max_> i told you
[06:28] <arunkale> or sudo apt-get clean ubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <mikemike> so my question doesn't count?
[06:29] <intelikey> no
[06:29] <arunkale> thanks to you too max_
[06:29] <dan_> aghhhhhhhhhh grrrr
[06:29] <linux8> status, many program not install
[06:29] <dan_> what is wrong with this program!!!!!!!!
[06:29] <mikemike> so you don't know the answer?
[06:30] <max_> linux8: and the command your doing is <alien -r filename.rpm>?
[06:30] <intelikey> max_ "<max_> arunkale: tried sudo apt-get remove?"    what did you expect him to remove ?
[06:30] <arunkale> intelikey: thanks a lot
[06:30] <max_> the file he installed
[06:30] <Dr_willis> not that removing the ubuntu-desktop stuff will do much..
[06:30] <intelikey> ubuntu-desktop max_   hehhe
[06:30] <Dr_willis> if it got cancled during the download - its not isntalled yet.
[06:30] <arunkale> max_: i had not installed anything
[06:30] <max_> you said you did an install
[06:30] <arunkale> it was downloading the stuff
[06:30] <arunkale> before installing
[06:30] <intelikey> no you misread him.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> he will just have some deb files in the apt cache dir.
[06:31] <max_> oh, ok
[06:31] <max_> my bad
[06:31] <Dr_willis> No big deal
[06:31] <linux8> yes, i'll try again, and mention messege error.
[06:31] <dan_> ok so i'm left with using opera thats just great
[06:31] <arunkale> thanks people
[06:31] <Nuked> hello all
[06:31] <max_> anyone know anything about the Fire Fox crash on pages with flash?
[06:31] <intelikey> but my point was that removing ubuntu-desktop would not have helped if he had installed it and now wanted to get rid of all the gnome krap.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Yahoo.com has flash>
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Yahoo.com has flash?
[06:31] <dan_> ya come on i cant be the only  one
[06:31] <dan_> yes
[06:32] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: yea.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> how lame is that.. gesh
[06:32] <Dr_willis> could remove flash. :)
[06:32] <Nuked> whats with the libnspr4-dev package?
[06:32] <dan_> ok how though?
[06:32] <j_> I need to remove the first four characters of each line in a text file, how is this done?
[06:32] <dan_> i dont have it installed i thought anyways
[06:32] <intelikey> j_ cut
[06:33] <Dr_willis> dan_,  you are stateing that flash is crashing firefox , even though flash is not installed?
[06:33] <dan_> i just checked nope no flash installed
[06:33] <j_> man cut will be enough?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> I think the problem may not be flash then. :)
[06:33] <dan_> i'm not saying anything about flash
[06:33] <max_> dan_: you could always ask in the #ubuntu room also, they might know
[06:33] <intelikey> yep
[06:33] <dan_> i'm saying it crashes when yahoo loads thats all
[06:33] <max_> is it JUST yahoo?
[06:33] <dan_> nope i tried other pages too
[06:34] <dan_> curiously the firefox page doesnt
[06:34] <dan_> ha
[06:34] <max_> google will lode?
[06:34] <max_> load*
[06:34] <dan_> lemme check it out
[06:34] <intelikey> J_  cut -b5- inputfile > outputfile
[06:34] <Nuked> I am currently attempting to compile the latest avidemux, and it needs jsapi.h, and the package that supplies it needs libnspr4-dev for whatever reason. Anyone have an idea as to how to remedy this problem?
[06:34] <j_> intelikey, thanks
[06:34] <intelikey> np   that's what i do.
[06:35] <dan_> ya google loads
[06:35] <max_> sounds like the pronlem i had
[06:35] <dan_> nuked, why dont you install libnspr-4-dev
[06:36] <Nuked> because it wishes to uninstall everything else
[06:36] <j_> i don't understand why manpages almost never include examples
[06:36] <dan_> i hate when that happens
[06:36] <Nuked> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner/+bug/57161
[06:36] <j_> just the syntax
[06:36] <Nuked> I guess I answered my own question
[06:36] <dan_> hahaha
[06:36] <intelikey> j_ :)   yeah.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> real men dont need examples! or ask directions!
[06:37] <Nuked> I truthfully hate nothing more than when things like these happen
[06:37] <dan_> oh come on dr. willis i need a check up
[06:37] <Nuked> first it was gaim-encryption, now this
[06:37] <intelikey> Dr_willis no that's lost men that don't ask dirrections.
[06:37] <j_> haha
[06:37] <dan_> ya what he said
[06:37] <dan_> haha
[06:37] <intelikey> real men don't get lost.
[06:37] <dan_> real men run kubuntu!!!!!!!!
[06:37] <dan_> lol
[06:38] <dan_> so anyways come on whats up with my firefox
[06:38] <arunkale> haha
[06:38] <Nuked> hang on a second
[06:39] <Nuked> lets say, hypothetically I uninstall firefox, would that solve the problem
[06:39] <Nuked> or would that make me uninstall all of ubuntu as well?
[06:39] <intelikey> scanner help ?         WOOHOOO
[06:41] <navaburo_> The FAQs say to ln -s /usr/java/... and so on to let firefox see the java plugin, but I don't have a /usr/java directory?
[06:41] <Nuked> I had to do that in order to get my pixma scanner to work
[06:41] <intelikey> Nuked xsane ?
[06:41] <dan_> i got it too work
[06:41] <drkm> intelikey: ok cool just checking
[06:41] <dan_> yes yes yes
[06:41] <dan_> i installed flashplayer
[06:41] <dan_> hahaha
[06:41] <Nuked> yeah intelikey
[06:42] <dan_> not that anyone cares
[06:42] <dan_> well bye guys
[06:42] <intelikey> well that should keep me from asking about it for several hours........
[06:42] <Nuked> several hours?
[06:42] <intelikey> but i doubt that it will help.
[06:42] <Nuked> more like 5-10 minutes
[06:43] <Nuked> intellikey it wants to remove everything!
[06:43] <intelikey> no i'd have to dl build-essential and all it's deps then the source code and dialup that's probably several hours....
[06:43] <intelikey> Nuked ?
[06:44] <intelikey> Nuked pastebin the list.
[06:44] <Nuked> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:45] <Nuked> intelikey: for libnspr4-dev http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37294/
[06:45] <intelikey> hmmmm only 23m  lets see at 4k/s that....
[06:46] <navaburo_> anyone here have working java in firefox 2 on edgy?
[06:46] <Nuked> intelikey: for removing firefox
[06:46] <max_> anyone use Beryl?
[06:46] <Nuked> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37295/
[06:47] <Nuked> yes max I do
[06:47] <Nuked> never got the water plugin to work
[06:47] <Nuked> or the flames
[06:47] <intelikey> Nuked that's not much.   go for it.
[06:47] <drkm> navaburo_: I do
[06:47] <max_> do you know if XGL does anything AIGLX cant?
[06:47] <Nuked> max, personally I prefer aiglx
[06:47] <Nuked> intelikey: are you serious?
[06:48] <Nuked> are you saying I should remove the fox
[06:48] <intelikey> Nuked yes about 30 apps/libs  and all gnome.
[06:48] <intelikey> or should is say all of them gnome.
[06:49] <Nuked> so basically remove gnome
[06:49] <Nuked> ?
[06:49] <navaburo_> drkm, how did you get it installed?
[06:49] <intelikey> Nuked no only the few apps
[06:49] <intelikey> gnome will still be there.
[06:49] <Nuked> will it be crippled?
[06:50] <drkm> I used easyubuntu and installed it through that
[06:50] <intelikey> Nuked and you are doing this to update ff correct ?
[06:50] <drkm> took about 3 clicks
[06:50] <intelikey> !ff
[06:50] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:50] <drkm> brb
[06:50] <Nuked> no intelikey to get gaim encryption, latest avidemux and if I feel like it the new ff
[06:51] <intelikey> Nuked  k so you do this then install the new ff and ubuntu-desktop   it puts back everything in that list.
[06:51] <Nuked> excellent
[06:52] <Nuked> let me try this out
[06:52] <Nuked> you gonna stick around?
[06:52] <intelikey> and like i said that's not a big list.
[06:52] <intelikey> no not for very long.
[06:52] <Nuked> lo
[06:52] <Nuked> l
[06:52] <xsacha> what does "pinwheels" mean?
[06:54] <intelikey> you must have not read the lines 1 & 23   nuked.    the top 70% is not going to be removed....
[06:55] <Nuked> intelikey: good point
[06:55] <j_> errr, actually I need to get rid of the last four characters too
[06:55] <Nuked> @@!!
[06:57] <intelikey> j_ that would require something else if the lines are not all the same liength
[06:57] <intelikey> are they ?
[06:57] <j_> nope
[06:57] <j_> tried googling, couldn't find an answer
[06:58] <intelikey> sed is your answer
[06:58] <j_> tried googling, couldn't find an answer but I couldn't find the relevant part
[06:58] <intelikey> but as to the exact syntax....  i'd have to fiddle around with it.
[06:58] <j_> damn
[06:58] <j_> too early, hit the up arrow accidently
[07:00] <j_> found it
[07:00] <j_> maybe, this is untested apparently
[07:01] <xsacha> anyone know what  "pinwheels" mean?
[07:01] <j_> sed -e 's/.$//'
[07:01] <j_> I really don't understand regexp at all
[07:01] <xsacha> why not?
[07:01] <goodthing> hmm, debian does not help me any further, in fact the installtion stalls at "loading "ide-disk" for "Linux ATA DISK"
[07:02] <j_> well ok, here s stands for substite, . for any character and // is nothing
[07:02] <menteck> where is firefox at i cant find it
[07:02] <j_> how is that intuitive?
[07:02] <menteck> !firefox
[07:02] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:02] <j_> regexp is hieroglyphs basicly
[07:03] <j_> too short
[07:04] <goodthing> menteck: can not find what, to install or to run?
[07:04] <menteck> firefox i cant seeom to find it to run it
[07:05] <goodthing> menteck: K-menu->internet
[07:05] <menteck> its no there
[07:05] <menteck> it not there
[07:05] <goodthing> menteck: otherwise you could always do alt+F2 and type firefox there
[07:05] <menteck> thanx
[07:06] <menteck> did not find command
[07:06] <goodthing> menteck: or try running kbuildsycoca
[07:06] <goodthing> then firefox is either not installed or the system is messed up
[07:06] <menteck> i checked the packege system and it says it is installed
[07:07] <j_> hmm, didn't work
[07:07] <goodthing> menteck: what does "which firefox" tell you?
[07:07] <intelikey> j_ something like and you would want to test and adjust this...  sed 's/^....//g inputfile | sed 's/....$//g' > outputfile
[07:07] <menteck> what do you mean?
[07:08] <intelikey> and i know that it sould be one pass but didn't want to waste the time finding out how.
[07:08] <intelikey> should
[07:08] <goodthing> menteck: if you give that command in a terminal emulator (i.e. konsole) the system should show you your lath to run firefox
[07:08] <goodthing> *path
[07:09] <menteck> it say invalid command
[07:09] <menteck> command not found
[07:09] <intelikey> j_ that assumes unix line ends    if it's some outher markup  i'm not sure that $ will work.
[07:09] <goodthing> without the "?
[07:09] <j_> should be
[07:09] <Nuked> this has seriously made me think about switching distros
[07:10] <intelikey> j_ also  . per char   encluding white space.
[07:10] <menteck> where dos fire fox get intalled at
[07:10] <j_> thats ok
[07:10] <intelikey> did you try that   ?
[07:11] <menteck> sorry it is getting late here and i need to get some sleep so i will fix the towmmorw
[07:11] <j_> doesn't want to run
[07:11] <carutsu> hello
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Howdys
[07:12] <intelikey> echo '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'
[07:12] <Nuked> jeez, I think ubuntu is trying to give me a stroke
[07:12] <carutsu> i was playing a video in firefox (and also in Konqeuror) and the sound just
[07:12] <carutsu> is slower than the video
[07:12] <intelikey> j_ that test works here.
[07:13] <j_> I hit enter and it just changes the line
[07:13] <intelikey> then you missed a '  or used a `  either way it's a quote issue.
[07:14] <intelikey> copy and paste this line.
[07:14] <intelikey> echo '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'
[07:14] <j_> did that
[07:14] <intelikey> and it does work ?
[07:14] <j_> yep
[07:15] <intelikey> now use the last part of it to build your command.
[07:15] <intelikey> echo '1234first and last4321' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'
[07:15] <intelikey> oops
[07:15] <intelikey> sed 's/^....//g' inputfile | sed 's/....$//g' > outputfile
[07:15] <carutsu> since Intelikey is bussy isn't anyone else?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> is it a flash video? or embeded some other player type video....
[07:16] <carutsu> flash video
[07:16] <carutsu> thank you Dr_willis
[07:17] <carutsu> i tried to play it with Firefox and Konqueror to see if was one of them, however same problem with booth
[07:17] <j_> that did it! thanks a million intelikey
[07:17] <carutsu> actually is the linux video hosted in youtube n_n
[07:17] <Dr_willis> Flash has a lot of issues
[07:17] <Dr_willis> you sure its not the video thats  just messed up.,
[07:17] <Dr_willis> whats the url? ill check here.
[07:17] <carutsu> totally i played 2 videos
[07:17] <carutsu> let me ses...
[07:18] <carutsu> see
[07:18] <carutsu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZmJ63sHoKU
[07:18] <intelikey> i like sed and echo and bash ........  :)
[07:18] <intelikey> echo '1234first and last4321
[07:18] <intelikey> 1234 second stage 1234
[07:18] <intelikey>  1234 with spaces 4321
[07:18] <intelikey> ' | sed 's/^....//g' | sed 's/....$//g'
[07:18] <intelikey> theres a good test patern ^
[07:18] <j_> I'll save this for later use
[07:19] <Dr_willis> carutsu,  the sound is in sync here
[07:19] <carutsu> see, that is what i try to fix here
[07:20] <Dr_willis> carutsu,  ive seen that video included on some LiveCD's also. :) i forget which one.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I tracked it down once to PROVE to a guy how to pronounce linux.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:20] <carutsu> i love that video n_N
[07:20] <carutsu> n_n
[07:20] <carutsu> it is just awsome
[07:21] <carutsu> lol
[07:21] <carutsu> carutsu remembers him that i'm still in troubles here
[07:21] <intelikey> Lee Nux
[07:21] <carutsu> lol, im sorry couldn't stop myself
[07:22] <Dr_willis> I seem to recall that comercial was shown during the superbowl halftime wasent it?
[07:22] <carutsu> what are you using for playing? what distro do you have?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Using Kubuntu,
[07:23] <intelikey> linus recorded a sound test file and said "i pronounce, linux Lee Nux"  and seeing that he wrote and named it, that must be the proper way.
[07:23] <Dr_willis> or did i install LinuxMint on this box..   I forget now...
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu, edgy eft, firefox 2.0
[07:23] <carutsu> like myself
[07:23] <carutsu> must be something else
[07:23] <carutsu> driver or something
[07:24] <Dr_willis> I do have a Nice Creative Audigy z2 card
[07:24] <carutsu> this is a laptop
[07:24] <Dr_willis> and rarely have ANY sound issues with anything. :)
[07:24] <intelikey> well if #kubuntu can't help with scanner problems where does one go ?
[07:24] <carutsu> hey btw is there a way to restore backspace to go back in the (is this word right) history
[07:25] <carutsu> in firefox?
[07:25] <intelikey> word is right
[07:25] <carutsu> right now it is like pg uo but i dislike that
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Ive herd theres a setting to do that.. but i never use that key... so never noticed...
[07:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:26] <carutsu> thank you, as you can see, english is not my native language
[07:26] <Dr_willis> others have asked the same question.. i just havent paid attention to the answer they get.
[07:26] <j_> perfect, managed to remove extra whitespace on my own, good day to you gentlemen/women
[07:27] <intelikey> mozilla used to put that in  edit > preferances > look&feel  or some such.
[07:28] <intelikey> ok i'm went.
[07:30] <idawood> Hi every one
[07:30] <[Relic] > I am thinking this section of the disk didn't get formatted
[07:30] <idawood> I need little help for Kubuntu 6.10
[07:31] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[07:31] <idawood> by default in storage media folder the hard drives (partitioned ) are mounted as hda5, hda7 etc
[07:32] <idawood> but in ubuntu the are mounted as same names as I named them in windows.
[07:32] <idawood> so it is possible to rename them or the should be mounted as the default names of window partitions
[07:33] <Dr_willis> 'in ubuntu' you mean in the  media:/  location in konqueror?
[07:33] <Dr_willis> media:/  I think uses the drives labels as a 'smarter name'   or you can  use "/media" to see them with their mount point names.
[07:33] <idawood> yes, actually you can see you Fat32 partitions on the desktop
[07:34] <Dr_willis> I dont see them on my desktop. :) i got them hidden. heh
[07:34] <idawood> where as in kubuntu it's are in storage media folder
[07:34] <idawood> that's what you chose :)
[07:34] <Dr_willis> I made a dir i call "Drives" with links to the drives i normally access. so i can name them what i want,.,. and give them custome icons
[07:34] <idawood> now can you please tell me how I can rename them, or the should be mounted as the name is windows like docs, softwares, songs
[07:35] <Dr_willis> Its a little odd how media:/ and /media differ.  You can change the hda7 or whatever you want  by editing the fstab.
[07:35] <idawood> etc
[07:35] <idawood> coz in hda7, hda8 kind of naming it's hard to remember which partition contains what
[07:35] <Dr_willis> if the drive label/name under windows was 'docs' i thought media:/ showed it as 'docs'
[07:35] <idawood> ok
[07:35] <Dr_willis> try entering 'media:/' in konqueror
[07:36] <Dr_willis> THEN try '/media'
[07:36] <idawood> how to edit fstab
[07:36] <Dr_willis> with a text editor.. and some skill. :)
[07:36] <idawood> yes you got my point now
[07:36] <idawood> it shows 'Docs' in ubuntu but not in kubuntu, in kubuntu it's showns as hda7
[07:37] <Dr_willis> You mean under GNOME in ubuntu?
[07:37] <idawood> hey doc
[07:37] <idawood> thanx man
[07:37] <idawood> THEN try '/media
[07:37] <Dr_willis> My C: is called 'WinBoot' under Kubuntu in the 'Media:/'  area
[07:37] <idawood> showed the same names as under windows
[07:37] <Dr_willis> its called 'hda1' under '/media'
[07:38] <idawood> what's the diffrence between both of them
[07:38] <Dr_willis>  /media is the name of the actial dir/mount points
[07:38] <idawood> media:/  shows window naming
[07:38] <Dr_willis> media: is trying to be 'smart'
[07:39] <Dr_willis> some times it fails very badly :)
[07:39] <Dr_willis> 'media:' is tecnkiocially a 'kioslave' that gives konqueror special features..
[07:40] <Dr_willis> worth looking into and learning about all the special kioslaves
[07:40] <Dr_willis> try 'apt:/'
[07:40] <Jucato> apt:/ man:/ help:/
[07:40] <Jucato> locate:/
[07:40] <Dr_willis> Im not sure why the 'system menu' i got gos to /media instead of media:/
[07:41] <Jucato> (btw, apt:/ is a Kubuntu-only kioslave)
[07:41] <idawood> what do you mean by fails very badly
[07:41] <idawood> is it unsafe to use
[07:41] <Jucato> Dr_willis: it has been changed in Edgy. all references to media:/ has been changed to /media
[07:41] <Dr_willis> if ya got 3 drives with no names.. well it can be confused.
[07:41] <[Relic] > is there a way to detemine what is on a HD mount?  I am getting the idea that this thing was never formatted since I keep getting errors when trying to mount it
[07:41] <Dr_willis> not hurting anything - its just not helpfull.
[07:41] <Dr_willis> which is why i did the links
[07:41] <Dr_willis> remote:/  is nice
[07:42] <Jucato> Dr_willis: actually, for some reasons, media:/ is hurting some... because it doesn't work across all apps, for one
[07:42] <Jucato> (by all, I mean both KDE and GNOME apps)
[07:42] <Jucato> there were other technical reasons. I just forgot them. and even the kde devs would agree, media:/ needs some work...
[07:44] <idawood> now I created a link to media:/ and named as MyDrivers
[07:44] <idawood> so it's very fine
[07:45] <idawood> my problem is solved until the media:/ won't be failed
[07:45] <idawood> I'm in IN
[07:45] <idawood> so i've to work on Solaris 9
[07:45] <Jucato> hm.. is there a way to direct dpkg to install to /usr/local?
[07:50] <binary2k2> Jucato: nope
[07:51] <goodthing> why is the debian installation dead slow and the ubuntu installation done in a sec?
[07:52] <goodthing> debian takes ages
[07:52] <binary2k2> debian installs more packages
[07:52] <goodthing> nah, i am only talking about loading ide stuff and detecting the hard disk
[07:52] <idawood> Obviously ubuntu has been pre compiled and made in packaged form
[07:53] <binary2k2> so is debian
[07:53] <machoo02> umm....ubuntu is based on debian
[07:53] <binary2k2> maybe the ubuntu guys tweeked the installer
[07:53] <Jucato> which installer?
[07:54] <idawood> ahan
[07:54] <idawood> no goodthing is talking about detecting ide stuff only
[07:54] <goodthing> Jucato: installer from the cd, the text-install
[07:54] <binary2k2> the debian installer, the one that loads all the udebs
[07:54] <Jucato> ah
[07:54] <Jucato> going... :(
[07:55] <idawood> may be DMA and things like that  are proper and pre configured to work quickly in Ubuntu
[07:55] <idawood> where as you have to do it yourself
[07:55] <goodthing> really insane, i am installing more than one hour already and the first package still needs to go written to my disk(?)
[07:55] <idawood> in debian
[07:55] <BrigadierFrog> is there an update-alternative for qt4?
[07:56] <idawood> why are you using debian? any specific reason for this brain storming :)
[07:56] <killeroy> heh, maybe you got the gentoo branch of Debian
[07:56] <binary2k2> :p
[07:57] <idawood> have you searched www.sourceforge.net and www.freshmeat.net for qt4
[07:57] <goodthing> lol
[07:58] <idawood> yea! most of average even advance users don't have to compile this debian stuff
[07:59] <idawood> but still it's much better than Solaris 9 :P
[08:00] <lakhia> Hi
[08:00] <killeroy> starwatcher - I see you use wildblue
[08:00] <goodthing> idawood: because i experienced problems with a three disk installation under kubuntu. I wanted to try the newer to see if that would fix anything here
[08:00] <killeroy> how do you like it?
[08:01] <lakhia> I just installed 6.10
[08:01] <goodthing> but it is starting to look like debian installation needs some custom command
[08:02] <goodthing> lakhia: and you like it?
[08:03] <lakhia> goodthing: yeah, much more than 5.04
[08:03] <lakhia> or was it 5.10
[08:03] <jbruckman> i'm having some problems with my audio. I imagine it's because I have a TV tuner card istalled, and it's classifying that as a sound device. I don't know how to make it detect and use my onboard sound card though. ANy help?
[08:03] <killeroy> speaking of 6.10 - has anyone else had an issue where their xorg config resets itself from time to time?
[08:03] <binary2k2> !sound | jbruckman
[08:03] <ubotu> jbruckman: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:04] <killeroy> occasionally it complains about not finding a correct mode for my monitor
[08:04] <lakhia> goodthing: i just have a few minor annoyances in kde
[08:04] <jbruckman> binary2k2: I'm pretty sure i've read those the last time i was bothering with this... and it led to nothing, but i'll look again
[08:04] <lakhia> goodthing: but overall I am pretty impressed
[08:04] <killeroy> as I had to muck around with my xorg.conf fle to get a 1280x1024 60Hz setting
[08:05] <goodthing> lakhia: 5.10, wasn't that breezy?
[08:05] <lakhia> goodthing: yeah, that's the one I had
[08:05] <lakhia> goodthing: I skipped dapper
[08:05] <goodthing> oh, then you missed the better versiob
[08:05] <goodthing> *version
[08:05] <goodthing> dapper rocks the most IMO
[08:05] <lakhia> goodthing: really?
[08:06] <goodthing> well, i might be biased seeing i have edgy only running for some days
[08:06] <lakhia> goodthing: Well, I wanted to try the faster boot times for edgy
[08:07] <jbruckman> aplay doesn't give me any output. what do I do now?
[08:07] <goodthing> yeah, that really is something nice :)
[08:07] <lakhia> goodthing: have had problems in the past few days?
[08:07] <killeroy> if I may chime in, despite some problems, I do like edgy a bit more than dapper
[08:07] <goodthing> lakhia: other than my new 750GB disk not a single issue
[08:07] <killeroy> then again that may be more the result of me liking KDE more than GNOME as I've only used Ubuntu dapper
[08:08] <killeroy> and am using Kubuntu Edgy
[08:08] <lakhia> goodthing: that's not bad
[08:08] <lakhia> killeroy: yeah, that can be a factor, definitely
[08:09] <idawood> goodthing: use kubuntu or ubuntu 6.10
[08:09] <lakhia> goodthing: so far no hardware problems with my dell inspiron laptop
[08:10] <goodthing> idawood: i do, but i wanted to install debian some day anyway
[08:10] <idawood> or there is another good distro if you are just like to try diffrent distros
[08:10] <goodthing> like? :)
[08:10] <idawood> that's freespire
[08:11] <goodthing> nope, would not do it for me i guess
[08:11] <idawood> ahan
[08:11] <lakhia> btw, what is a good video player for linux? I tried kaffiene and mplayer so far
[08:11] <killeroy> vlc?
[08:11] <idawood> they try debian
[08:11] <idawood> then*
[08:11] <lakhia> do dvd nav menus work in vlc?
[08:12] <idawood> installing debian give good hand on experience to linux
[08:12] <lakhia> i need something which my wife can use ... and mplayer doesn't cut it (guessing dvd://1 ... dvd://5 is too much for her)
[08:12] <killeroy> not really sure - I've not watched a DVD on my PC for a long time
[08:12] <idawood> vlc is good video player
[08:13] <idawood> you can try totem too
[08:13] <lakhia> what's the diff b/w the two?
[08:13] <matthew> idawood, or kaffeine, my personal favorite!
[08:13] <lakhia> tried finding reviews but no luck
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !sound
[08:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:14] <goodthing> lakhia: you could try kmplayer, kaffeine and codeine, those i think are the most friendly
[08:14] <idawood> for most they are both videwo players
[08:14] <lakhia> I like kaffeine ... but it occasionally hanged in 5.10.
[08:14] <idawood> vlc is good to know to play most formats easily and efficiently
[08:14] <matthew> I had to killall kaffeine once under edgy, but no further problems...
[08:15] <idawood> it's light weight player
[08:15] <idawood> and works fine, quickly and efficiently
[08:15] <lakhia> ok, I guess I will stick with kaffeine for now and see how it goes
[08:15] <lakhia> hmm, thanks guys ... vlc sounds interesting too
[08:16] <idawood> if you need a player for DVD
[08:16] <killeroy> well I'm sure kaffeine has had quite a few improvements since 5.10
[08:16] <idawood> you can try LinDVD, if you can find it
[08:17] <idawood> yes it has
[08:18] <lakhia> lindvd is commercial and closed source, it seems from their web page
[08:18] <nixternal> wow, LinDVD is the biggest clunk of #@$)*$# out there, and lakhia is right, gotta pay for it and can't hack it
[08:19] <nixternal> i am using kaffeine right now to play dvds, but i am thinking about giving vlc another shot...mplayer used to play them and all of a sudden stopped doing so
[08:19] <idawood> so what do you think about which one is best audio player
[08:20] <lakhia> I've been using xmms ... but I hate it's interface if you need to do anything else besides playing
[08:20] <idawood> amarok is good
[08:20] <lakhia> wonder when xmms2 will be ready
[08:21] <killeroy> love amarok
[08:21] <idawood> freespire has Lsongs
[08:21] <lakhia> i tried using it once but never got hooked
[08:21] <idawood> am not sure if it's amarok based
[08:22] <idawood> ok
[08:22] <idawood> I just remembered I need a good image manager viewer
[08:22] <idawood> which one should I use
[08:23] <goodthing> idawood: looks like a combination of amarok with musikcube
[08:24] <idawood> any suggestion?
[08:24] <killeroy_gb> bah, such a wonky connection
[08:25] <idawood> goodthing: I'm talking about image viewer, manager
[08:25] <idawood> like ACDSee, Picasa for windows
[08:25] <idawood> Picasa for linux is also available but it works slow
[08:26] <lakhia> does digikam help with managing loads of pics?
[08:26] <idawood> it's preinstalled in Edgy
[08:26] <goodthing> idawood: and i about Lsongs. But what is wrong with gwenview?
[08:27] <lakhia> seems to support tags, comments, etc.
[08:27] <idawood> but it too loads pictures slowly
[08:28] <lakhia> oh, ok. Never used it. Am still hooked to Adobe's photoalbum. Need to kick the habit one of these days
[08:29] <lakhia> What about KPhotoAlbum (formerly named KimDaba)?
[08:31] <idawood> lakhia: didn't tried this one, is it good
[08:32] <lakhia> idawood: I haven't either. The kphotoalbum has testimonials and screenshots. Seems like it might do the job
[08:33] <lakhia> there is a 3minute video that shows how easy it is to tag pics
[08:33] <idawood> actually i need a light weight viewer which can quickly load and display pictures instead of loading with transitions
[08:34] <lakhia> that's what this looks like ... the interface is pretty simple.
[08:35] <idawood> ok I'll try it
[08:36] <lakhia> sounds good ... I think I'll give it a try too
[08:36] <lakhia> when I sit on my big iron desktop machine that has my picture collection
[08:38] <lakhia> anyone tried Feisty?
[08:39] <idawood> does amarok supports equalizer
[08:39] <manchicken> idawood: Yeah.  Tools->Equalizer.
[08:39] <lakhia> wow! which part?
[08:40] <lakhia> I'm too chicken to try it just yet
[08:40] <manchicken> The system settings proggy.  I can't get this thing to compile for the life of me.  heh.  I shouldn't be hacking so late on so little sleep.
[08:40] <manchicken> I've got it in a chroot, so there's no risk for me ^_^
[08:40] <lakhia> :)
[08:41] <manchicken> I'm going to bed in 15 minutes whether I'm done or not.
[08:41] <lakhia> i'm about to doze off here too and all I'm doing is typing
[08:42] <lakhia> I've been wanting to get started coding ... but just haven't gotten around to it
[08:43] <idawood> lakhia are you indian
[08:43] <lakhia> er, I mean coding on kde (I already code for work)
[08:43] <manchicken> What are you waiting for?
[08:43] <lakhia> idawood: close enuf ... Pakistani
[08:43] <manchicken> Get on it.
[08:44] <lakhia> I know ... I think it is just the initial hurdle so set things up etc
[08:44] <idawood> close enough :)
[08:44] <idawood> me too paki
[08:44] <lakhia> plus, I don't have a compelling itch to scratch
[08:44] <manchicken> lakhia: Setting up chroot to build is insanely simple.
[08:44] <manchicken> I'm scratching someone else's itch right now.
[08:44] <manchicken> he
[08:44] <manchicken> h
[08:44] <lakhia> idawood: cool!
[08:45] <lakhia> hehehe!
[08:45] <manchicken> This could be the last build of the night....
[08:45] <lakhia> is there a doc on how to do this? The only time I did chroot was for installing gentoo
[08:45] <idawood> :)
[08:46] <lakhia> idawood: so, dawood is your last name?
[08:47] <seven11> anyone an idea why some of the packages come back with an gzip error when i do apt-get update?
[08:47] <idawood> :) yes
[08:47] <lakhia> manchicken: I hope you got it to compile
[08:48] <manchicken> Me too.
[08:48] <seven11> why?
[08:48] <idawood> It's Imran Dawood
[08:48] <idawood> may be not zipped properly or may be not downloaded fully
[08:49] <lakhia> manchicken: congratz!
[08:49] <seven11> every time i do update it comes back with gzip error
[08:49] <seven11> Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[08:49] <idawood> change the repositiries
[08:49] <seven11> ?
[08:50] <idawood> try to main servers of ubutunu
[08:50] <idawood> try main servers of ubuntu
[08:50] <lakhia> replace au.archive with us.archive (in /etc/apt/sources.txt)
[08:51] <seven11> i choose au because it is closer but i will give us a try
[08:51] <lakhia> sorry, that's sources.list, not sources.txt
[08:51] <seven11> jo i guessed so
[08:51] <idawood> seven: you did right but the source you are using have corrupted gzip file
[08:51] <idawood> so it's better to try some other source repositry
[08:52] <idawood> ok Have to go
[08:52] <idawood> gotta go on job :(
[08:52] <lakhia> see you, Imran
[08:53] <lakhia> good luck with kphotoalbum
[08:53] <idawood> thanx every one
[08:53] <idawood> yea thanx :)
[08:53] <idawood> Bye
[08:53] <lakhia> any luck, seven11?
[08:54] <fribuntu> Hi all
[08:54] <lakhia> hi
[08:54] <killeroy> hello
[08:54] <fribuntu> What is the apt repository for the "bad" stuff like w32codecs or mscorettf, etc.?
[08:55] <seven11> jo lakhia works with us
[08:55] <seven11> thanks
[08:55] <lakhia> cool
[08:55] <lakhia> it's was idawood's idea ... :)
[08:55] <fribuntu> Is there something like "debian-multimedia.org" for kubuntu?
[08:56] <lakhia> fribuntu: did you try the universe multiverse repository?
[08:56] <fribuntu> lakhia: yep.
[08:56] <fribuntu> lakhia: It is not in there.
[08:57] <killeroy> perhaps its in one of the PLF repos
[08:57] <lakhia> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:57] <fribuntu> lakhia: Apparently it is so bad, they don't want it anywhere near the official packages.
[08:57] <fribuntu> lakhia: I know how to add repositories, I just don't know which repository to add.
[08:58] <lakhia> go to the site .. and paste everything in the box
[08:59] <lakhia> into an empty sources.list
[08:59] <lakhia> make a backup (just in case)
[08:59] <lakhia> doing that worked for me
[08:59] <fribuntu> killeroy: what is PLF? Do you have an URL?
[09:00] <killeroy> penguin liberation front
[09:00] <lakhia> I don't know which of those repositories has w2codes but one of them does
[09:01] <killeroy> url from ubuntuguide is as follows: deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/
[09:01] <fribuntu> lakhia: Aha, there are PLF repositories listed in your box.
[09:01] <fribuntu> killeroy: thanks!
[09:01] <lakhia> fribuntu: ok, maybe that's the one (I knew one of them had it)
[09:02] <firebird619> Could someone help me? I am trying to install kdenlive, but it says Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.7) but 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 is to be installed. IT also says the same for other packages. How can I fix this?
[09:03] <lakhia> well, going to bed
[09:03] <lakhia> good night guys
[09:03] <killeroy> night
[09:08] <xsacha> damn i so want this patch in: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/60726
[09:20] <crimsun_> xsacha: doesn't seem relevant in feisty.
[09:22] <seven11> anyone knows a program which can make on pdf file out of many single ones?
[09:22] <xsacha> crimsun_: aiglx supports pixel shaders in feisty?
[09:23] <crimsun_> xsacha: I can't seem to find that error message in the logs.
[09:23] <unix_infidel> seven11: the only possible way i can think of is to import via OO.org and then export as one pdf
[09:23] <unix_infidel> otherwise get Acrobat 7 Pro for Win32.
[09:24] <unix_infidel> I beleive even cxoffice supports it.
[09:24] <seven11> i tryed OO but it couldn't read the pdf file
[09:24] <unix_infidel> seven11: then use acrobat pro.
[09:24] <seven11> free?
[09:24] <unix_infidel> is it all text?
[09:25] <unix_infidel> seven11: of course not, its like 400 dollar software :)
[09:25] <seven11> :(
[09:25] <seven11> nop thanks
[09:25] <seven11> i will find another way
[09:25] <unix_infidel> seven11: if its all just basically rich text export it to a more usable file.
[09:25] <unix_infidel> if its not i'm sure openoffice can find a way to open it.
[09:25] <seven11> i will give it another try
[09:26] <seven11> i will post it here if i find a way
[09:26] <unix_infidel> win32 has a lot of novel pdf manip methods.
[09:27] <xsacha> crimsun_: logs of what?
[09:28] <xsacha> no error, just pixel shaders arent available..    glxinfo -i | grep fragment_program
[09:30] <crimsun_> xsacha: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors
[09:30] <xsacha> crimsun_: using aiglx? what output of glxinfo -i | grep fragment_program      on feisty?
[09:31] <christiane> Hello. How can I define the ID of a partition? cfdisk, sfdik?
[09:31] <crimsun_> xsacha: nothing relevant.
[09:31] <xsacha> k, that patch needs to be added
[09:33] <shinobi2> hi
[09:38] <tbe> Hiloo everyone
[09:42] <tamacracker> Hey guys...
[09:42] <tamacracker> Where's my Screen shot program located?
[09:42] <tamacracker> It's not under the Utilities option >.>
[09:42] <matthew> tamacracker, the printscreen button.
[09:42] <Jucato> tamacracker: K Menu -> Graphics -> KSnapshot
[09:42] <tamacracker> I can just hit the print screen
[09:42] <tamacracker> oh ok Jucato
[09:42] <matthew> lol
[09:43] <tamacracker> i didn't know Linux had that option like Windows >.>
[09:43] <Jucato> of course you can hit the Print Screen button
[09:43] <tamacracker> Ha... sweet
[09:43] <tamacracker> >.> Newbs tend to be scared of new things maybe? ha
[09:43] <tamacracker> Thanks matthew and Jucato
[09:43] <matthew> tamacracker, I'm kind of the quick and dirty kind of guy...why bother with the program name when there's a button? lol
[09:44] <tamacracker> I know, shortcuts are always better
[09:44] <tamacracker> I just didn't know it worked lol
[09:44] <kilrae> it's new
[09:45] <matthew> now if I could get my windows button to pop up the Kmenu...
[09:45] <tamacracker> Yeah that would be sweet!
[09:46] <matthew> I know I can, I'm just too lazy to figure it out...lol
[09:46] <tamacracker> ha
[09:46] <tamacracker> yeah key shortcuts
[09:46] <matthew> anyone have any ideas?
[09:47] <Jucato> google?
[09:47] <unix_infidel> use a wm and not a de :P
[09:47] <matthew> Jucato, or something...
[09:47] <matthew> like...enlightenment?
[09:47] <Jucato> the disadvantage of mapping Win key for the K Menu alone, is that you can't use it for anything else
[09:47] <unix_infidel> ew, no.
[09:47] <tamacracker> :D
[09:48] <tamacracker> Yeah... like Beryl
[09:48] <matthew> Jucato, but I'm not using it for anything now...
[09:48] <unix_infidel> w00t
[09:48] <tamacracker> Beryl uses it with some of their eyecandies
[09:48] <tamacracker> >.> is that an old keyboard?
[09:48] <unix_infidel> tamacracker: no, of course not.
[09:48] <matthew> tamacracker, I've got a rage 128 pro w/ NO 3d/OpenGL...really sucks, but I'm working on getting an nvidia...
[09:48] <tamacracker> or just one specifically without am.
[09:48] <Jucato> matthew: then time to use it for something :)
[09:49] <unix_infidel> tamacracker: no, i'll give you a hint though.
[09:49] <tamacracker> nvidia = niiice
[09:49] <Jucato> besides, why use the K Menu when you can use Katapult :)
[09:49] <tamacracker> Mac?
[09:49] <matthew> tamacracker, it's a 104 key keyboard.
[09:49] <unix_infidel> It's the same keyboard the Creator of Facebook.com and the BSD dev's use :)
[09:49] <tamacracker> ha
[09:49] <tamacracker> Jucato... very tru.
[09:49] <unix_infidel> no joke either :)
[09:49] <matthew> unix_infidel, I bet you want me to use compiz or glx...huh?
[09:49] <Jucato> dvorak?
[09:50] <unix_infidel> matthew: i use X primarily to spawn $TERMs
[09:50] <unix_infidel> so flux works fairly well for me.
[09:50] <matthew> unix_infidel, nice. I used fluxbox for a while, very very minimal, very nice. I liked it for old, old machines...
[09:50] <unix_infidel> i like it for fast machines.
[09:51] <unix_infidel> go figure, get work done quickly so i can go play :)
[09:51] <matthew> unix_infidel, I like mah eye-candy
[09:51] <matthew> unix_infidel, fortunately, I don't work with my machine!
[09:51] <unix_infidel> matthew: no problem with eye candy.  WE just have TOTALLY different views on the definition of eye candy!
[09:51] <matthew> at least, not this one.
[09:51] <matthew> unix_infidel, so, in your view, would a tool-bar be eyecandy?
[09:51] <matthew> lol
[09:52] <unix_infidel> Like I said, i like minimalist get work done ennvironment so I can go play.
[09:52] <unix_infidel> Then its eye candy time :)
[09:52] <matthew> unix_infidel, what're you running?
[09:52] <matthew> specs, please
[09:52] <unix_infidel> matthew: lots of stuff.
[09:52] <matthew> proc, hdd, mobo, gfx...etc...lol
[09:52] <unix_infidel> anywhere from 500mhz p3, to dual g5 powermac to 8 way xeon.
[09:53] <pulltab> Isn't there somehow someway to open a rar file in kubuntu?
[09:53] <matthew> unix_infidel, I've got this old P3 900Mhz box w/ 512 RAM
[09:53] <tamacracker> All I need is a dock... and I'm satisfied with workspeed.
[09:53] <matthew> unix_infidel, whoa, Xeon!?!?!
[09:53] <tamacracker> pulltab
[09:53] <pulltab> yes?
[09:53] <tamacracker> open Adept Manager
[09:53] <digitalfreedom> aight dewds girls im trying to install nmap with the X GUI front end and im getting this error saying that i have no gtk installed but im sure as i just used adept to get it anycertain gtk i should get?
[09:53] <fdoving> pulltab: you need to install unrar i guess.
[09:53] <pulltab> ok...
[09:53] <fdoving> !unrar-nonfree
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <tamacracker> and download unrar non-free version
[09:53] <unix_infidel> or you can use 7zip :)
[09:54] <tamacracker> I'm sure you have Ark.
[09:54] <fdoving> 7zip fails on some .rars, works on most though..
[09:54] <sukh> hi
[09:54] <matthew> digitalfreedom, try this: sudo apt-get install nmap
[09:54] <digitalfreedom> i did that
[09:54] <matthew> oh
[09:54] <matthew> lol
[09:54] <digitalfreedom> but i want to try the GUI
[09:54] <sukh> anyone know how to stop the bouncing icon beside the mouse when you start an app?
[09:54] <unix_infidel> fdoving: is correct unfortunately, its designed to handle 7z but its fairly versatile as it is.
[09:54] <matthew> the GNOME desktop?
[09:54] <digitalfreedom> KDE
[09:54] <digitalfreedom> oh lol not me
[09:54] <matthew> digitalfreedom, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <tamacracker> I like the bouncing icon :(
[09:55] <tamacracker> :D
[09:55] <digitalfreedom> i have KDE
[09:55] <matthew> digitalfreedom, do you want to use GNOME?
[09:55] <sukh> its so anoying
[09:55] <digitalfreedom> its not that let me find the error..no im not up for GNOME
[09:55] <matthew> digitalfreedom, ok
[09:55] <tamacracker> but honestly, I don't know how to get rid of the bouncing icon.
[09:55] <sukh> :(