[00:00] <Snausages> laura_: what physical connection are you using to connect to the tv?
[00:00] <coz_> WACOMalt,   mmm which chipset is this   it should say in alsmixer
[00:00] <penguin42> Koltor_: Hmm that works for me, I'm using the ppa nightly build of chrome
[00:00] <coz_> alsamixer
[00:00] <leaf-sheep> chrisr: Ahh. It's an applet.
[00:00] <laura_> s-vhs
[00:00] <ePi> all the items on my desktop kind of...vanished.... is there a terminal command to update the desktop, or something similar?
[00:00] <WACOMalt> Realtek ALC268
[00:00] <Koltor_> does the nightly build have working bookmark sync?
[00:00] <WACOMalt> alc_: Realtek ALC268
[00:00] <chrisr> penguin42: drag a window to the left of the screen to fille the right half of the screen, and drag another to the right to fill the right side.  Its nice.
[00:00] <chrisr> leaf-sheep: ahh
[00:00] <coz_> WACOMalt,  ok  let me check a few things   also   the  #alsa channel  should be of help as well
[00:01] <fokuslee> hey how do i permanently disable a package from being updated in synatpic?
[00:01] <laura_> oh no
[00:01] <WACOMalt> coz_: I didn't know of that channel, will ask there too. thanks again!
[00:01] <laura_> one girl is beginningto sleep right now :-/
[00:01] <chrisr> leaf-sheep: i cant see it in my applet panel
[00:01] <leaf-sheep> !pinning | fokuslee
[00:01] <Snausages> laura_: that may explain it... most systems boot at a low enough resolution to mirror the video over to a tv out.  When x gets going it's typically at a higher resolution which won't work on the tv.  the tv out can generally still be enabled, but something in the driver has to tell the chipset how to handle the reduced resolution on the TV out side of it, and I'm guessing that is what is not happening for you.
[00:01] <caseyweederman> Ok, can anyone tell me about wvdial?
[00:01] <leaf-sheep> chrisr: Don't type glipper.  Try clipboard.
[00:01] <penguin42> chrisr: Hmm not sure, there are a whole bunch of things in the compiz (desktop effects) system - if you install thecompizconfig-settings-manager package you can fiddle with hundreds of them
[00:01] <Ghnuberath> fokuslee: highlight the in the list, go to Package on the top menu and choose lock version
[00:01] <coz_> WACOMalt,  I do see a bug report about that particular chipset   let me see if it was solved
[00:02] <WACOMalt> coz: uhoh
[00:02] <goose> how can I change the clock on my server (via terminal)? I don't have access to sudo...
[00:02] <laura_> ok Snausages, thank you. how do i go on now?
[00:02] <Barnabas> goose, perhaps via the bios
[00:02] <leaf-sheep> fokuslee: I believe sypathic(sp?) have that feature. It might be easier.
[00:02] <chrisr> leaf-sheep: how did you figure that out?
[00:02] <caseyweederman> goose: get access to sudo
[00:02] <penguin42> goose: You can't - changing the clock needs privs
[00:02] <Camelot> does anybody know where I can see the new Tint2 ( panel ) syntax ? My old configuration file is full of errors ( worked perfectly on 9.04 ) ?
[00:02] <ThePasswd> Let me ask can i know the name of Version its name Cynos? or Synos?
[00:02] <coz_> WACOMalt,  ok nothign solved on that report yet  hold on
[00:02] <laura_> (the tv is is a full-hd pioneer lcd, btw, so it should handle higher resolutions!)
[00:03] <leaf-sheep> chrisr: "aptitude show glipper"
[00:03] <chrisr> leaf-sheep: nothing for clipboard
[00:03] <caseyweederman> Or gnome-ppp?
[00:03] <fokuslee> leaf-sheep,  thx mate
[00:03] <Shinka> How can you reactivate the little thing in the upper-right corner with Evolution/Empathy/Pidgin ?
[00:03] <goose> is there a way I can change my local clock or something? it's mainly for irssi, my system thinks it's 5 time zones ahead of me :/ (ironic, cause it's actually one behind me)
[00:03] <ThePasswd> Cab u know the version like Cynos?
[00:03] <ThePasswd> SynoS?
[00:03] <penguin42> ah I think you can change timezone
[00:03] <ThePasswd> i cant remmember the name its like ubuntu?
[00:03] <Newbie33> any update about ubuntu 9.10?
[00:04] <leaf-sheep> chrisr: Are you certain? Perhaps "killall gnome-panel" will restart the panel and you can find it in the panel applets.
[00:04] <leaf-sheep> !notes | Newbie33
[00:04] <Snausages> laura_: yes, the computer can make a hi-res signal, and yes your TV can certainly display a hi-res signal...  but that s-video connection in between is going to top out around 720x486...  quite low by comparison to either.  As far as what to do next, you may need to find a more complete or more advanced graphics driver for your chipset.  I don't know if such a thing exists or even where to look.
[00:04] <coz_> WACOMalt,   pastebin the   /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf let me take alook at it
[00:04] <chrisr> leaf-sheep: yeah that sorted it
[00:04] <coz_> WACOMalt,  pastebin.com will do nicely
[00:05] <Snausages> laura_: you may do better in the end simply by connecting to the TV by way of VGA, DVI or HDMI
[00:05] <Newbie33> any help i want to make my own vanity ip
[00:05] <coz_> WACOMalt,  also   In 'Sound Preferences' -> 'Hardware' set Profile -> Analog Stereo Duplex
[00:05] <ThePasswd> any one tell me names for OS like Ubuntu ?
[00:05] <bencoder> laura_: have you tried lowering the resolution right down and then trying to switch? no experience so no idea if that will work but it's possible
[00:05] <laura_> i just changed the resolution to 640*480 to check, but there is still no way to switch
[00:05] <AL^3QRAB> ĀIØmĀ ĀØUØsingĀ H4cKeRzE
[00:05] <bencoder> ah
[00:05] <_ULNX64_> kiwi,mint os too
[00:05] <leaf-sheep> ThePasswd: What do you mean?
[00:05] <coz_> WACOMalt,  is this a laptop?
[00:05] <laura_> Snausages: aint possible, just a svhs connection on this old nb
[00:05] <WACOMalt> coz_: I dont have those options in my sound preferences
[00:06] <laura_> how do i switch at all?
[00:06] <leaf-sheep> ThePasswd: http://distrowatch.com/
[00:06] <WACOMalt>  there is just about nothing there.
[00:06] <coz_> WACOMalt,  ok is this a laptop?
[00:06] <ThePasswd> i mean i need names of some operative sistems like ubuntu
[00:06] <laura_> theres no option or whatever in the system options
[00:06] <Snausages> laura_: that's where the driver I mentioned comes in
[00:06] <coz_> WACOMalt,  let me see the   /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:06] <laura_> so i need another driver for my gpu
[00:06] <WACOMalt> coz_: yes it's an HP TX2500z CTO laptop
[00:07] <bencoder> laura_: have you looked at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361124&highlight=dual+monitor
[00:07] <WACOMalt> coz_: http://pastebin.com/m43e97a98 that is my alsa config file
[00:07] <_ULNX64_> kiwi amd mint ubuntu based with codecs, if need codecs try midibuntu repo 4 ubuntu
[00:07] <p-f> uhm, what happened to dontzap?
[00:07] <Newbie33> do u think window 7 will compete with ubuntu?
[00:07] <Snausages> laura_: you may need to find and install an alternate driver for your graphics system.  I don't know if there is one.  Another possibility- some laptops have a hotkey on them which will cause the graphics chipset to seek out external displays or force them to switch.  Dunno if this applies to you.
[00:07] <caseyweederman> I think Windows 7 is Vista with a bandaid.
[00:07] <DigitalKiwi> Newbie33: compete at what?
[00:07] <WACOMalt> it is. but it's a pretty nice bandaid
[00:07]  * [newbie] .
[00:08] <Newbie33> still vista ehehe
[00:08] <caseyweederman> 'nice'? You can instantly make any window exactly half the size. Brannnng!
[00:08] <bencoder> laura_: this project looks like it may be relevant http://i810tvout.sourceforge.net/
[00:08] <coz_> WACOMalt,  ok I am getting nothing with that but offer that file up on #alsa channel as well
[00:08] <coz_> WACOMalt,  goog luck with this :)
[00:08] <Newbie33> i love my ubuntu :P uptime so far 18 days ehehe
[00:09] <spellbound> I've upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and my LVM setup has stopped working. After extensive searching online, I've found (on the EVMS site) that "multiple owners of a block device" is prevented on recent kernels. One of my LVM physical volumes is a partition on the same disk that holds /. Could this be what's causing my trouble?
[00:09] <fokuslee> leaf-sheep, im using 9.10 with grub1 can i remove grub-common, it says its for ver2 and how do i hold not to ask to install again?
[00:09] <ghostlines> can someone help me with a cod4 dedicated server setup?
[00:09] <Newbie33> im still using ubuntu 9.04
[00:10] <mikla> hello, can anyone advice me good divx player with subtitle position option? :D
[00:10] <chrisr> Linux needs an easy system wide way of setting proxies
[00:10] <leaf-sheep> fokuslee: If you upgrade -- You should still be using grub1.
[00:10] <chrisr> There are so many different ways its irritating
[00:10] <dajhorn> spellbound: EVMS is deprecated and unmaintained for Ubuntu.  Ignore EVMS documentation.
[00:10] <Doltek> What are the other ways to install 9.10 of installing of the CD dowsnt work
[00:10] <leaf-sheep> fokuslee: Synpathic does not have that feature to "ignore" packages?  Also, you could install packages without recommendations.
[00:10] <fokuslee> leaf-sheep, so the common files are shared betweeen both versions and i can safely upgrade that?
[00:11] <chrisr> Whats the best file to set an environment variable so that every session will have access to it?  .profile?
[00:11] <spellbound> dajhorn: Thanks. Wasn't using it. Just trying to figure out what's going on with my LVM setup.
[00:11] <leaf-sheep> fokuslee: I'm not sure. I heard there were too many issues regarding with upgrading 9.04 --> 9.10.  Do a clean install if you can.
[00:11] <arand> !install | Doltek
[00:11] <dajhorn> spellbound: You should provide more information.  Like a mount error or kernel message.
[00:11] <chrisr> I'm never sure where the best place to put environment variables is.
[00:11] <chrisr> .profile or .bash?
[00:11] <arand> Doltek: in what way does it not work?
[00:12] <Eledh> Is anyone here any good with udev rules? :)
[00:12] <spellbound> dajhorn:
[00:12] <spellbound> [   11.603896] device-mapper: table: 252:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[00:12] <spellbound> [   11.603961] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[00:13] <dajhorn> spellbound: Is the LVM in RAID?
[00:13] <fokuslee> leaf-sheep,  ok thanks yeah actually there is many issues with installing 9.10 w/ grub2 on fakeraid, i had to clean install w/ chroot, and it keeps on asking me to upgrade to grub2 hence i needed to thold the version
[00:13] <spellbound> dajhorn: No.
[00:13] <dajhorn> spellbound: Are you using LVM striping?
[00:13] <mike> hi
[00:13] <spellbound> dajhorn: No.
[00:14] <lee> I am having trouble with an Acer Aspire One 110 and the Karmic Netbook Remix, specifically that when I boot to the live version, after the black and white throbber disappears I'm left with a blank screen.  I've tried booting with i915.modeset=0, and it gets stuck at initramfs.  any suggestions?
[00:14] <lws> Hey, my System->Administration->Printers thing is missing.   ANyone know what package that is part of?
[00:14] <dajhorn> spellbound: First, reboot into your old 2.6.28-16 kernel and check whether the computer starts properly.
[00:14] <p-f> is there a reason why sound would only work when in gnome? Whenever I try something else like, say, ion3, awesome or wmii, I get no sound.
[00:14] <spellbound> lee: I tried Karmic on an Acer Aspire One and couldn't get things to work right. I decided to wait.
[00:15] <Guest86827> lutich hier
[00:15] <_ULNX64_> joel right click menu icons look for icon in menu editor
[00:15] <xx-0-> anyone using R + bioconductor library here ?
[00:15] <lee> spellbound: ah well, I'm not in a hurry, just surprised at the fact that it doesn't work!  9.04 is on there now and could do with a wipe.  maybe I'll try a dist-upgrade and see if it continues to fall over.
[00:16] <spellbound> dajhorn: When I upgraded to 9.10, I reformatted the root partition. But when I boot into a 9.04 Live CD, my LVM volume is detected and works just fine.
[00:17] <dajhorn> spellbound: Did you remove the old kernel?
[00:17] <spellbound> lee: My general impression on 9.10 is that it's a very ambitious release but wasn't quite ready yet.
[00:17] <spellbound> dajhorn: Yes, I did.
[00:18] <Norbi> can anybody help me to configure my mod_rewrite on ubuntu, it doesn`t seem to work for me
[00:18] <liath> hey everyone.  Got a question here.  I updated to Ubuntu 9.10 and grub2 is all fine so far except one thing - I can't get it to honor the DEFAULT=save option
[00:18] <lee> spellbound: the desktop version is working fine for me, but then I hardly use it... it did at least manage to boot to the livecd without issue
[00:18] <dajhorn> spellbound: You may need to manually load the 'dm-mod' module in the newer kernel.
[00:18] <B4R74zy>  /msg NickServ identify <j@x0>
[00:18] <Passwd> i want to ask is there a way so i can make a Dreambox server in Ubuntu?
[00:19] <liath> ugh brb... think I installed the wrong xchat :|
[00:19] <spellbound> dajhorn:
[00:19] <spellbound> ~# modprobe dm-mod
[00:19] <spellbound> FATAL: Module dm_mod not found.
[00:19] <spellbound> dajhorn: So maybe that's the source of my trouble?
[00:20] <dajhorn> spellbound: What does `dpkg -S dm-mod.ko` return?
[00:21] <spellbound> dajhorn:
[00:21] <spellbound> ~# dpkg -S dm-mod.ko
[00:21] <spellbound> user-mode-linux: /usr/lib/uml/modules/2.6.22-rc5/kernel/drivers/md/dm-mod.ko
[00:21] <chrisr> Where is the best place to set my LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[00:21] <chrisr> Anyone know?
[00:21] <usser_> chrisr, ld.conf
[00:21] <chrisr> where is that?
[00:21] <dajhorn> spellbound: That doesn't look like an Ubuntu kernel.
[00:22] <penguin42> spellbound: Are you running in a vm supplied by a hosting company or the like?
[00:22] <chrisr> usser_: its a system wide LD_LIBARY_PATH
[00:22] <Passwd> i want to ask is there a way so i can make a Dreambox server in Ubuntu??
[00:22] <Kudi> what is a nicer way to reboot ubuntu when it freezes?
[00:22] <spellbound> dajhorn: Linux myth 2.6.31-14-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 15:22:42 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:22] <spellbound> dajhorn: (uname -a)
[00:23] <spellbound> penguin42: No. This is the server install though. Sorry, I should have mentioned that up front. Ubuntu Server 9.10.
[00:24] <dajhorn> spellbound: The dm-mod is not shipped as a ko in the -generic-pae package.
[00:24] <Josh_> GRR. Why does ubuntu keep loading the "lirc_mceusb" module when I SPECIFICLLY load 'modprobe lirc_mceusb2' ?
[00:24] <liath> okay I'm back now
[00:24] <Passwd> Any one can tell me?
[00:24] <Passwd> if i can use it?
[00:25] <djzn> hi folks, I wanted to know *WHAT TO DO* for Windows XP or Vista to *ACCESS* my samba share..... because I can see the share, but Linux won't let it in... ANY IDEAS ?
[00:25] <spellbound> dajhorn: Does that mean that there is no device-manager in my system?
[00:25] <sgtmattbaker> Can anyone help me with a jarnal issue? it is an issue it has on windows (dont know about ubuntu, havent got wacom working yet). #windows is not helping
[00:25] <Passwd> i want to ask is there a way so i can make a Dreambox server in Ubuntu??
[00:25] <spellbound> dajhorn: Sorry, I meant device-mapper.
[00:25] <penguin42> djzn: Make sure your box is running the samba server
[00:25] <needhelp1> i installed the recommended updates and it installed a grub update .. and its asking me "configuring grub-pc" what would you like to do about grub
[00:25] <dajhorn> spellbound: It could be built-in.  I'm looking at my local kernel config for you...
[00:25] <needhelp1> im not sure what im supposed to pick
[00:26] <djzn> penguin42: it *IS* running samba server...
[00:26] <spellbound> dajhorn: Thanks. I really appreciate your help.
[00:26] <needhelp1> it says like keep the local version installed, install the package maintainers
[00:26] <penguin42> djzn: OK, check /var/log/smbd.log and nmbd.log to see if there is any stuff from the client
[00:26] <dajhorn> spellbound: The uml kernel that you are using is in universe, it would be better anyways to use a main kernel.
[00:26] <needhelp1> 3 way merge
[00:26] <needhelp1> anyone seen this?
[00:26] <Sinister> is anyone having trouble with devede ? or can tell me something that works as well?
[00:26] <djzn> penguin42: hold on
[00:26] <liath> so, sorry if I dropped otu and popped back in, but I was having an issue with grub2. overall, I have no problems with it, other than one annoyance (really bugs me).  It doesn't seem to want to honor the default=save option in the config, and the online resources thusfar have been useless.
[00:27] <p-f> is there a reason why sound would only work when in gnome? Whenever I try something else like, say, ion3, awesome or wmii, I get no sound.
[00:27] <spellbound> dajhorn: Wonder why I ended up with that... I used all defaults when installing.
[00:27] <penguin42> p-f: In gnome it will be using pulseaudio, out of gnome it probably won't - but I wouldn't expect that to be a problem
[00:27] <dajhorn> spellbound: I was using -server in all of my Xen domU virtual machines, which Karmic broke.  I am now using the -ec2 kernel.
[00:28] <needhelp1> can anyone help me with updates to grub ..
[00:28] <djzn> penguin42: it is now /var/log/samba/log.smbd and log.nmdb
[00:28] <dajhorn> spellbound: You did something sensible, but Karmic broke it.
[00:28] <Newbie33> im not updating my ubuntu yet to karmic
[00:28] <Barnabas> djzn, perhaps you need to add an "account" for your windows client to samba
[00:28] <Barnabas> $ smbpasswd -a -m <machine-name>$
[00:28] <spellbound> dajhorn: I wouldn't mind trying to move over to the -ec2 kernel.
[00:28] <unimaginative> Anyone know about why ubuntu 9.10, with kernel 2.6.31-14-genereic is missing the lirc_mceusb2 module?
[00:28] <Newbie33> im happy with 9,04 version
[00:28] <djzn> Barnabas: and I do that in Windows?
[00:28] <phyrrus> yay! got it!
[00:29] <needhelp1> its asking me to update my grub and gives me a list but im not sure what im supposed to pick .. can anyone help me please
[00:29] <phyrrus> how do i set the colors for xterm?
[00:29] <Barnabas> djzn, no on the server
[00:29] <p-f> penguin42, hm, I can't even open alsamixer (function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory)
[00:29] <switchgirl> hiii
[00:29] <djzn> Barnabas: An account in the samba server
[00:29] <sebsebseb> Newbie33: That could be a good thing, since many people have had issues upgrading 9.04 to 9.10
[00:29] <Barnabas> yep
[00:29] <dajhorn> spellbound: Look at the /boot/config* file for the kernel that you want to run.
[00:29] <rbunny> hello
[00:29] <sebsebseb> switchgirl: hi
[00:29] <penguin42> p-f: How about something simple like cat /bin/ls > /dev/audio (It should squeel!)
[00:30] <Barnabas> machine name matching the name of your windows client
[00:30] <Guest73912> Newbie33: I did have success with upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10
[00:30] <needhelp1> the screen i have says configuring grub-pc .. and i have to pick what i want like keep current version, install maintainers version, merge togethe
[00:30] <spellbound> dajhorn: looking now
[00:30] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: im now having issues with 9.10
[00:30] <p-f> penguin42, nothing. I did hear a "speakers are getting ready" type of sound, but none of the usual screeching that one would expect
[00:31] <dajhorn> spellbound: There should be CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM=y and some similar lines under it.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: Clean install or upgrade?  What issues?
[00:31] <djzn> Barbanas: Can you suggest a GUI application to do this?
[00:31] <thiebaude> clean
[00:31] <penguin42> p-f: Is it something simple like volume? I mean what happens if you birng alsa-mixer
[00:31] <sgtmattbaker> Can anyone help me with a jarnal issue? it is an issue it has on windows (dont know about ubuntu, havent got wacom working yet). #windows is not helping
[00:31] <Barnabas> djzn, no - I can't
[00:31] <p-f> penguin42, well, that's the thing. I can't run alsamixer
[00:31] <phyrrus> hello..
[00:31] <needhelp1> its asking me to pick what would you like to do about grub.. and i have to pick like
[00:31] <sebsebseb> sgtmattbaker: This is Ubuntu support, not Windows
[00:31] <needhelp1> keep the local version
[00:31] <dajhorn> spellbound: On my -generic computer it is built-in.  (=y is built-in, =m is a module.)
[00:31] <needhelp1> can anyone help me with this
[00:31] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: after i install the nvidia drivers that ubuntu offered me, when i restart, before i get to login i get a prompt
[00:31] <Barnabas> log into the *nix server and run the command stated with sudo
[00:32] <p-f> penguin42, (function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory)
[00:32] <sebsebseb> !ot |  sgtmattbaker
[00:32] <sebsebseb> sgtmattbaker: Could try off topic
[00:32] <penguin42> p-f: Weird!
[00:32] <sgtmattbaker> sebsebseb: well, jarnal runs on Ubuntu. I guess I could try a java channel
[00:32] <fxhp> why does VNC not show in Terminal Server Client?
[00:32] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: i have to run linux mint 7 for right now
[00:32] <spellbound> dajhorn: Yes, I found it, and it's set to "y".
[00:32] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: oh ok
[00:33] <needhelp1> can anyone help me with a grub issue, i updated and now its asking me to pick what i want to do.. im not sure what im supposed to do
[00:33] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: Pick what you want to do?
[00:33] <thiebaude> do i install the graphics driver before of after the updates?
[00:33] <liath> hrmmm... guess I need to check and see if there is a #grub2 channel :|
[00:33] <coz_> needhelp1,  what are the options
[00:33] <dajhorn> spellbound: What does `sudo pvscan` return?
[00:33] <sebsebseb> liath: there's #grub
[00:34] <spellbound> dajhorn: Do you think it can be related to that "multiple owners" change that I first mentioned?
[00:34] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: shoudn't matter
[00:34] <coz_> liath,  it is   #grub
[00:34] <thiebaude> ahh, ok
[00:34] <needhelp1> sebsebseb:  im not sure what i want to do .. its asking to either .. keep the local version installed . install the maintainers version,  or merge them together coz_
[00:34] <thiebaude> i'll have to give it another go
[00:34] <Billiard> needhelp1: you probably want the maintainers version
[00:34] <dajhorn> spellbound: Probably not.  That bug was particular to EVMS, which is not LVM.
[00:34] <coz_> needhelp1,  unless you made changes to /etc/default/grub   install maintainters version
[00:34] <spellbound> dajhorn: http://pastebin.com/m352d95ab
[00:34] <liath> sebsebseb, ahh.  Good.  need to find out why grub2 doesnt' honor save default and how to whip it into shape.  annoying
[00:34] <needhelp1> what is this?
[00:35] <needhelp1> i thought i already had the grub 2 .. that came with 9.10
[00:35] <sebsebseb> liath: ok
[00:35] <coz_> needhelp1,  did you manually change anything in grub before updating?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: Clean install or upgrade?
[00:35] <digitalstimulus> liath, i use a gtk application to pick default grub, works well although I forget what the name is
[00:35] <needhelp1> clean install.. and it asked me to install recommended updates
[00:35] <dajhorn> spellbound: (Do a manual configuration.)     `sudo vgchange -a` and `sudo vgscan`
[00:35] <coz_> needhelp1,  then just install the maintainer's version if you didnt manually make changes before the update
[00:36] <phyrrus> somebody PM me how to make xterm white text on black bg
[00:36] <needhelp1> who is the maintainer ?
[00:36] <spellbound> dajhorn: Do you mean vgchange -ay ?
[00:36] <needhelp1> ubuntu?
[00:36] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: I was also thinking install the package maintainers version
[00:36] <Billiard> the maintainers version, is the default configuration from the package
[00:36] <dajhorn> dajhorn: Yes.  (The 'y' parameter is implicit according to the man page.)
[00:36] <JorgeBorg> i've been able to set up remote desktop from windows to a local ubuntu machine, but I'm having a hell of a time getting vnc working... think you can help?
[00:36] <dajhorn> spellbound: Yes.  (The 'y' parameter is implicit according to the man page.)
[00:37] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: what  Billiard put I guess
[00:37] <Rods_Tiger> I can't ssh into my ubuntu machine
[00:37] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, which vnc are you using?
[00:37] <spellbound> dajhorn: http://pastebin.com/me0da5f0
[00:37] <usr13> JorgeBorg: What problem are you having with vnc?
[00:37] <JorgeBorg> vnc4server
[00:37] <spellbound> dajhorn: Had to put y in explicitly.
[00:37] <needhelp1> im going to restart to see what the new grub does
[00:37] <needhelp1> brb
[00:37] <usr13> JorgeBorg: Try x11vnc
[00:37] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, are you trying to connect from ubuntu to windows based VNC?
[00:38] <infidel2s> my 'Applications' menu shows up in the middle of my gnome-panel. how can i move it back to the left hand side. when i right-click on it the 'move' option is dimmed so i cant click it
[00:38] <bastid_raZor> Rods_Tiger: you need openssh-server installed on the ubuntu machine
[00:38] <JorgeBorg> usr13, will do. I'm trying to connect from windows to ubuntu
[00:38] <Rods_Tiger> I've got it - it used to work
[00:38] <Billiard> infidel2s: right click and uncheck lock
[00:38] <spellbound> dajhorn: And so, in relation to that ioctl error you see, I get the errors in dmesg that I listed before.
[00:38] <dajhorn> spellbound: Okay, now `sudo lvscan` and mount it.
[00:38] <Wasaki> how do i open a new connection on mirc??
[00:38] <sebsebseb> bastid_raZor: That's not needed for a LAN,  Internet though  yes should be used
[00:38] <Rods_Tiger> has anything changed with karmic's release - the ssh used to work prior to the release
[00:38] <JorgeBorg> digitalstimulus, using ultravnc from win to ubuntu
[00:39] <dajhorn> spellbound: Is this just a cosmetic bug for you?    udev in Karmic has a chatter problem.
[00:39] <infidel2s> thanks Billiard
[00:39] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: what happens when you try to connect?
[00:39] <IdleOne> Wasaki: you mean another channel or another server?
[00:39] <bastid_raZor> sebsebseb: really, .. i did not know that.
[00:39] <Billiard> infidel2s: np
[00:39] <Wasaki> IdleOne, another server
[00:39] <Rods_Tiger> ssh: connect to host machine.home port 22: Operation timed out
[00:39] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, it should be pretty straight forward to setup
[00:39] <IdleOne> Wasaki: IIRC the command is /newserver irc.whatever.org
[00:39] <xander787> I updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now have an unbootable computer that outputs: mountall: symbol lookup error: mountall: undefined symbol: udev_monitor_filter_add_match_subsystem_devtype whenever i try to boot. i've seen a couple other people with this problem on the forums, is there any fix?
[00:39] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, i also use ultra vnc connecting to an ubuntu fileserver
[00:40] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: you have sshd running on the seriver?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> xander787: yeah clean installing
[00:40] <Rods_Tiger> it's been running for months
[00:40] <fokuslee> hi ubuntans is there an alternative to MSN messenger or do i need wine to run it
[00:40] <jeeves> is it possible to do a per contact log of a pidgin user?
[00:40] <bencoder> anyone know what would cause an error "cannot execute binary file" when it's the latest version from the repo, and works fine on a fresh install?
[00:40] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: do you have any other way to connect
[00:40] <sebsebseb> xander787: should work good then
[00:40] <Rods_Tiger> no
[00:40] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: or other way to access the server
[00:40] <spellbound> dajhorn: No, I wouldn't care if it was just an error message. It appears to work (except for the error messages), but the logical volume ends up being 0 bytes. http://pastebin.com/m72d5d6cd
[00:40] <digitalstimulus> xander787, backup and clean install...i'm always wary of upgrading distros or different os's :)
[00:40] <sebsebseb> fokuslee: of course,  AMSN, Kmess,  Emescene  and so on
[00:41] <Rods_Tiger> I've connected a keyboard and mouse to it
[00:41] <sebsebseb> !info emescene
[00:41] <dajhorn> spellbound: Whoah, full backup time.
[00:41] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: it has a screen too?
[00:41] <JorgeBorg> digitalstimulus, I'm gonna give x11vnc a try, because the vnc4server log has no useful info and ultravnc gives a cryptambiguous error
[00:41] <sebsebseb> hmm think I spelt wrong or the name is wrong uhmm
[00:41] <Rods_Tiger> yes
[00:41] <DigitalKiwi> fokuslee: pidgin, finch, bitlbee, kopete
[00:41] <JorgeBorg> thanks
[00:41] <Wasaki> IdleOne, didnt work :/
[00:41] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, you are trying to connect TO the ubuntu machine right?
[00:41] <fokuslee> sebsebseb, DigitalKiwi, i just need a lightweight one which one do you recommend?
[00:41] <dajhorn> spellbound: How many system upgrades has this computer gone through?  Is there any chance that it needs an LVM metadata update?
[00:41] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, is it running Gnome?
[00:41] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: can you ssh to the server from the server
[00:41] <xander787> ah, i was afraid i'd have to do that. well i've been told it already a couple times i guess i'll actually have to do it...
[00:41] <Rods_Tiger> good point
[00:41] <IdleOne> Wasaki: File menu > New Server or something like that.
[00:42] <mgv1> how do i solve that in evolution? http://yfrog.com/2m39081162p
[00:42] <JorgeBorg> digitalstimulus, yes, to ubuntu running gnome
[00:42] <spellbound> dajhorn: I guess so. I can get to the data by booting Ubuntu 9.04 Live CD. I'll just have to move ~1TB over the network to whereever I can find space.
[00:42] <krackpot> what's a good twitter client? somehow gwibber doesn't work
[00:42] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, what about the built in remote desktop sharing?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> fokuslee: try a few and find out which one you like.   There's also  Mercury Messenger a java app, made by one guy and closed source,  which you can get from outside the repo.
[00:42] <DigitalKiwi> finch is curses, bitlbee runs as a daemon and you access it with an irc client, pidgin is lightweight gtk
[00:42] <Wasaki> IdleOne, that worked. ty :)
[00:42] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, it's already setup and ready to go, just enable it
[00:42] <IdleOne> Wasaki: no ptoblem
[00:42] <IdleOne> problem*
[00:42] <Rods_Tiger> yes I can
[00:42] <JorgeBorg> it works properly, but 've read vnc is faster and more secure
[00:42] <JorgeBorg> can you confim this?
[00:43] <hipitihop> what is the ubuntu version of 'depmod -ae' mentioned in step 3 here http://mythtvblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/getting-imon-0038-lcd-working-with-lirc.html
[00:43] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: you are on the same network?
[00:43] <spellbound> dajhorn: The LVM setup was created in 8.04. After that, I used it with 9.04 until it wouldn't work with 9.10.
[00:43] <Rods_Tiger> yes
[00:43] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: can you ping the server?
[00:43] <Rods_Tiger> I don't know
[00:43] <fokuslee> sebsebseb, DigitalKiwi, Thanks guys, this forum is always soo friendly
[00:43] <mow> yes what krackpot said
[00:43] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: try that
[00:43] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, well, as far as speed, the client connecting usually picks the quality and speed settings
[00:43] <sebsebseb> fokuslee: Not sure about the latest  Live Messenger, but a slightly older one you could get working in Wine.    Ideally use other networks by the way for example Jabber
[00:43] <Rods_Tiger> Request timeout for icmp_seq 0 (etc
[00:44] <KnifeySpooney> Uhhhm, my desktop isn't showing. When I right click I don't even get a context menu. However, gnome-panel and everything else is working. I just don't get a shadow below my gnome-panels and my desktop icons are all gone.
[00:44] <hedkandi> hello!
[00:44] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: can the server ping your client?
[00:44] <Rods_Tiger> hmm
[00:44] <hedkandi> folks, how do I set the brightness of my screen with ubuntu?
[00:44] <hedkandi> I'd expect it to be under system - display but I can't find it
[00:44] <Rods_Tiger> I'm not sure how this machine is referred to
[00:44] <spellbound> dajhorn: So I guess that means there's a chance that it needs a metadata update? Can that be done without recreating everything?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> fokuslee: some call this a forum,  I call this a IRC channel
[00:44] <c3l> is there any open source IM protocol that can be used over SSL?
[00:45] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, are you on a laptop?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> c3l: Jabber?
[00:45] <hedkandi> yes
[00:45] <JorgeBorg> digitalstimulus, then perhaps my transfer rate is bottling or something. I'm going to do some investigating. thanks!
[00:45] <waseidel> hi all, help with a trouble with my account in wiki.ubuntu.com
[00:45] <chrisr> How can i change my uid?
[00:45] <dajhorn> spellbound: Yes, I'm poking around the man pages, but I can't remember how to check the version or do the upgrade.  I dunno whether Hardy is old enough that this could be the glitch.
[00:45] <waseidel> it can be here?
[00:45] <jrib> chrisr: why?
[00:45] <digitalstimulus> JorgeBorg, no problem.  the server is pretty simple setup wise, it's the client that dictates the speed.  so you can connect to the same server from a lan or dial up modem or wherever and pick your settings to suit
[00:46] <Billiard> hedkandi: i know of commands to set the brightness, but i think its in the power settings as well
[00:46] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, does your laptop have a key/combo on the keyboard to do it?
[00:46] <chrisr> is there a way to do this safe, so everything works properly?
[00:46] <Rods_Tiger> no, it doesn't look like I can ping this machine from the ubuntu machine either (using the ip address)
[00:46] <Ashfire908> My system is missing the strftime man page, how do I get the man page installed?
[00:46] <hedkandi> digitalstimulus, yes it does, and they operate ok
[00:46] <spellbound> dajhorn: It's probably not worth perusing this one further. I'll just move the data away from there and recreate.
[00:46] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: ok, you are sure they are in the same subnet?
[00:47] <Rods_Tiger> yes
[00:47] <durt> Ashfire908, did you try 'man 3'?
[00:47] <spellbound> dajhorn: I *really* appreciate your help!
[00:47] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, that's what i've always used :)
[00:47] <jrib> Ashfire908: install manpages-posix-dev
[00:47] <hedkandi> digitalstimulus: but I'd expect there to be a dialog for it under sys - pref
[00:47] <Rods_Tiger> there's no more subnets than this one
[00:47] <chrisr> jrib: I have upgraded my machine and i need to use my files from my last install.  The uid/gid is set for my network at work.
[00:47] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: they get ips from dhcp?
[00:47] <mow> never mind... tweeting wrong thing puts you in court
[00:47] <hedkandi> Billiard, so what commands do the job then?
[00:47] <Rods_Tiger> yes
[00:47] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: do they both have internet access
[00:47] <dajhorn> spellbound: Okay, np.  The magic command could be vgconvert, but you could hose the data.
[00:47] <Rods_Tiger> yes
[00:47] <jrib> chrisr: use usermod
[00:47] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, i don't believe i've seen a 'brightness' control in gnome.  if you have an nvidia or ati chip, i believe their respective control panels can set that
[00:48] <hedkandi> I don't actually.
[00:48] <Ashfire908> durt, already did that.
[00:48] <chrisr> jrib: I've read how using usermod stopped someones machine from booting until he changed back the uid to 1000
[00:48] <hedkandi> Billiard is right, you can set the screen brightness under AC power in power management
[00:48] <hedkandi> but you can't do the same on battery power
[00:48] <jrib> chrisr: I hope you see that makes no sense...
[00:48] <hedkandi> which is a bizarre inconsistency
[00:48] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, hmm, there should be settings for AC and battery
[00:48] <anthony_> the screen broghtness is in "power manage ment
[00:49] <anthony_> i'm looking at it right now
[00:49] <chrisr> jrib: stopped his X from booting..
[00:49] <hedkandi> digitalstimulus, could you clarify what you mean by that?
[00:49] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, i mean...there should be similar settings for AC power and battery power
[00:49] <jrib> chrisr: just make sure the user's home has the correct uid afterwards (usermod should do this automatically)
[00:50] <bencoder> right. screw it. fresh install of 9.10.
[00:50] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, i don't have ubuntu on a laptop to verify
[00:50] <hedkandi> are you saying that someone needs to alter gnome?
[00:50] <seasky> hey i need someone to recommend a media player
[00:50] <hedkandi> or are you saying I can't find the right box?
[00:50] <anthony_> I'm still running 9.10 beta
[00:50] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, from what i remember, there is a tab for AC power and a tab for battery power
[00:50] <jrib> !player | seasky
[00:50] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: are there other devices on the network?
[00:50] <seasky> i wanted xmms but it isnt available can someone recommend a nice media player?
[00:50] <hedkandi> indeed
[00:50] <digitalstimulus> seasky, for what?
[00:51] <jrib> !xmms | seasky
[00:51] <Rods_Tiger> quite a few - printers, ipod touch, etc
[00:51] <anthony_> i use vlc media player
[00:51] <anthony_> best out there
[00:51] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: can any device ping any other device?
[00:51] <digitalstimulus> seasky, songbird
[00:51] <hedkandi> Another point is this: under screensaver it says "regard the system as idle after ..." and you set it to 5 mins
[00:51] <fokuslee> sebsebseb,  haha my bad of course its a channel
[00:51] <Rods_Tiger> I don't think so
[00:51] <hedkandi> And under power management it says "dim display when idle"
[00:51] <seasky> digitalstimulus: i installed backtrack4 it doesnt  have a media player, and xmms isnt available?
[00:51] <hedkandi> and the screen dims after 20 secs
[00:51] <anthony_> Everyone Knows That VLC media player is the best
[00:51] <xim_> can you recover a file deleted through an SCP   SSH connection?
[00:51] <hedkandi> so they aren't using the same definition of idle
[00:51] <Rods_Tiger> I've never seen ping do anything other than timeout, so I'm not sure about ping
[00:51] <digitalstimulus> seasky, i'm not familiar with backtrack
[00:51] <seasky> digitalstimulus thank you i will try songbird
[00:52] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: maybe you have a router blocking access to other clients or something
[00:52] <Rods_Tiger> well it used to work
[00:52] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, let me see if i can find it on my fileserver
[00:52] <Rods_Tiger> this all happened when karmic got released, or a day or so before that
[00:52] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: well if nothing can ping anything else, idk how you are going to ssh
[00:52] <hedkandi> digitalstim: what?
[00:52] <Rods_Tiger> I've no idea - I've never used ping, but ssh has worked
[00:52] <digitalstimulus> seasky, it's a music player, with loads of plugins, developed by mozilla
[00:53] <seasky> digitalstimulus: ....sudao apt-getting now =)
[00:53] <Rods_Tiger> I've never ever experienced ping working. ssh has always worked fine but now it doesn't
[00:53] <Billiard> hedkandi: to set the screen brightness time, you can use gconf-editor
[00:53] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, ok under power management, do you have a tab that says "ON AC Power" and "On Battery Power"
[00:53] <anthony_> VLC has loads of plugins and will run almost any video... actually it's ran all video and audio files i've run in it
[00:53] <hedkandi> y
[00:54] <digitalstimulus> yes, VLC for video playback and dvd
[00:54] <hedkandi> billiard: what key do I need to edit?
[00:54] <Rods_Tiger> something has changed in ubuntu to make ssh stop working
[00:54] <anthony_> I use VLC for audio as well...
[00:54] <anthony_> Actually using it now lol
[00:54] <durt> Rods_Tiger, errors?
[00:54] <Billiard> hedkandi: sorry not at a ubuntu machine at the moment, but it is under power management or something, it is with all the other power settings but not on the gui power management settings window
[00:54] <digitalstimulus> Rods_Tiger, have you tried deleting the key or whatever that ssh generates?
[00:54] <caseyweederman> Ok.  I gotta rely less on google :( | how do I reverse the command: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/gmake
[00:55] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, stick it in the machine?
[00:55] <penguin42> hedkandi: Pretty much
[00:55] <hedkandi> I notice wxWidgets doesn't use it!
[00:55] <Billiard> hedkandi: not really no, it only is a gui for changing the settings in the .gnome directory
[00:55] <krevitz> i have a problem
[00:55] <hedkandi> hoho
[00:55] <manevra> hello. i have a question
[00:56] <durt> manevra, just ask
[00:56] <hedkandi> Billiard: other things can and do use gconf to maintain persistent data
[00:56] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: It's something that has to happen a hundred times for each working instance. I don't want to do it physically because it will break.
[00:56] <jrib> Jabadahut: what does this return: dpkg -S /usr/bin/gmake
[00:56] <Ashfire908> Is there a way to get a progress bar for the syncing progress of Ubuntu One?
[00:56] <dajhorn> Jabadahut: Did you accidentally delete or overwrite /usr/bin/make?  -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall make
[00:56] <krevitz> how can i get filetopia workin fine with wine?
[00:56] <hedkandi> Billiard, it's not gnome-specific
[00:56] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, umount/mount?
[00:56] <manevra> durt: what is the difference between i386 and amd64 i tried to find out from forums but i didn't get to any conclusion. what is the difference between the versions ?
[00:56] <caseyweederman> I just want my computer to forget there was a device, and then find it afresh.
[00:56] <hedkandi> there is a section for "applications" which takes just about anything
[00:56] <penguin42> manevra: i386 is 32bit, amd64 is 64bit
[00:56] <Billiard> hedkandi: they just put their settings in .gnome i believe, because they are ment for use with gnome
[00:57] <digitalstimulus> hedkandi, gconf has gnome settings.  but it's different from the registry in windows.  the registry in windows not only has windows settings but applications and hardware and everything else
[00:57] <hedkandi> indeed ok then
[00:57] <durt> manevra, basically i386 is 32bit and amd64 is 64bit
[00:57] <mikeru> is there anyway to set a framebuffer's resolution to widescreen? I have a 1280x720 monitor and I would like the consoles to be 1280x720
[00:57] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: It's not the mounting kind. It's a usb gsm modem.
[00:57] <Jabadahut> jrib: dpkg: /usr/bin/gmake not found. (weird, I don't know why)
[00:57] <krackpot> is there a way to set a default audio device in 9.10
[00:57] <krevitz> how can i get filetopia workin fine with wine? D=
[00:57] <penguin42> mikeru: Try fbset
[00:57] <manevra> penguin42 , i saw that but how do i know which version i should choose? does this matter ?
[00:57] <kanuha> not sure if this is off topic, but can anyone suggest a usb modem for a laptop to use with Ubuntu?
[00:57] <penguin42> manevra: If you don't know and you have 3GB or less of RAM then stick to i386
[00:57] <Billiard> krevitz: check out the wine appdb?
[00:57] <krevitz> anybody?
[00:58] <hedkandi> well anyway, do you know is the source code for gnome-power-man on subversion somewhere?
[00:58] <krevitz> what its that D=
[00:58] <Rods_Tiger> set the grub screen to 1280x720 and the framebuffer should follow. Use startup-manager
[00:58] <caseyweederman> kanuha: NOT Novatel's Ovation.
[00:58] <durt> manevra, if you are new to ubuntu stick with 32bit till you have a reason to try 64bit
[00:58] <penguin42> manevra: If you have more RAM and a 64bit CPU then you might want to switch to amd64
[00:58] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, rmmod/modprobe?
[00:58] <Jabadahut> dajhorn: I just now put that into my terminal - everything seems to be working fine
[00:58] <hedkandi> what repos do the gnome apps belong to ?
[00:58] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, not sure i understand what you're trying to do
[00:58] <krevitz> billiard, what ist that?
[00:58] <Billiard> hedkandi: you can get the source using apt-get source, why?
[00:58] <anthony_> anyone using the video driver "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 185)" and getting random computer freezing?
[00:58] <Billiard> krevitz: google
[00:58] <hedkandi> I want to modify it and check it in.
[00:58] <krevitz> k
[00:58] <kanuha> caseyweederman, thx, I'll steer clear of those then
[00:58] <dajhorn> Jabadahut:  Ubuntu doesn't have `gmake`.  Systems that aren't based on the GNU toolchain usually install GNU make as gmake.
[00:59] <hedkandi> fix it rathere
[00:59] <chrisr> You can't use usermod as the user you are changing ,but in ubuntu i can't be root!
[00:59] <manevra> penguin42, so amd64 is for stronger computers.. as i understand. is it any difference between i386 and amd64 ? is amd64 better or something, or it's the same operating system for different computer configs?
[00:59] <jrib> Jabadahut: hrmm, are you sure gmake existed?
[00:59] <chrisr> SO what do I do?
[00:59] <asr88> Hi, I'm trying to change the default boot option in Grub 2, the config file says do not edit... any suggestions?
[00:59] <mikeru> penguin42: easy way to use it'
[00:59] <Billiard> chrisr:  you use sudo to gain root power
[00:59] <mikeru> penguin42: easy way to use it?
[00:59] <digitalstimulus> manevra, 64 vs 32 bit
[00:59] <Jabadahut> I'm sure that it didn't exist, but after I did the sudo ls -s command, it performed exactly like make
[00:59] <chrisr> Billard: that doesnt work for usermod
[00:59] <voodoomonk> hey i'm new to this whole IRC support thing so i'm not really sure now to even go about asking for help
[00:59] <penguin42> manevra: Mostly the same, but amd64 is only for machines with 64bit hardware, most things work the same in both, a few things can be a bit triciker in 64bit
[01:00] <hedkandi> what is the config file called again for grub?
[01:00] <Billiard> chrisr: it does
[01:00] <hedkandi> menu.conf isn't it?
[01:00] <asr88> hedkandi: grub.cfg ??
[01:00] <krackpot> is there a way to set a default audio device in 9.10? (i have two sound cards, want to use the discrete soundcard)
[01:00] <jrib> Jabadahut: right, you can just delete it if you want, but it won't do any harm really
[01:00] <hedkandi> where is it?
[01:00] <chrisr> Billard: ive just tried it and it complained that I was logged in
[01:00] <durt> manevra, to use the 64bit build you need a 64bit processor
[01:00] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: If the light goes purple, I have to replug it. If the light stays red, I can go on to the next step. I have no idea what causes this but I know it's nothing I'm doing. Can I just cut power to that port?
[01:00] <Jabadahut> okay, thanks again jrib :)
[01:00] <Rods_Tiger> irc in this channel at least consists of 1606 users asking questions and 5 answering them
[01:00] <unperson> Hi.  I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10.  Unfortunately, at the moment the Network Manager applet shows that I have no network connection, despite the fact that I most certainly do have a connection on eth0 that I'm using to type this.  Can anyone suggest what the source of this discrepancy might be and how to fix it?
[01:01] <chrisr> Billard: and all i was only running a terminal
[01:01] <Billiard> chrisr: i have never had that happen, maybe pastebin your exact command and the exact output
[01:01] <hedkandi> asr88, you can edit that ok
[01:01] <Hans_Henrik> i have multiboot Ubuntu/WinXP, on the XP i have gone in "Device settings for the WLAN hardware" and put the power-supply at max (much above "default") and as a result, my battery goes out faster, and i get much longer range in XP than Ubuntu (i can connect to WLANs in XP that i cant even see exist in Ubuntu - before i put the laptop closer to the access point) how can i do the same in ubuntu?
[01:01] <asr88> hedkandi: ok thanks, lol
[01:01] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, not that i know of.  are you on usb 1.1?
[01:01] <manevra> i have this processor: Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2160 @1.80 GHz
[01:01] <manevra> is it 64 bit ?
[01:01] <durt> unperson, did you previously use a manual config?
[01:01] <hedkandi> as long as you do it right!
[01:01] <chrisr> Billard : " sudo usermod -u 9009 -g 320 chrisr   ;  usermod: user chrisr is currently logged in "
[01:01] <voodoomonk> dows any one know how i can fix flash controls in firefox 3.5 i just upgraded to 9.1
[01:02] <unperson> durt, No, I'm sure I configured it through the GUI (or installer) on some previous version of Ubuntu (Intrepid or earlier).
[01:02] <anthony_> When I'm in ubuntu I can see wireless points that I can't see in Vista. I have no idea why this is.
[01:02] <digitalstimulus> manevra, more than likely yes.  64 bit is more like next generation.  if you plan on upgrading to more than 4 GB or RAM ever, go 64 bit
[01:02] <penguin42> manevra: According to Intel's site, yes
[01:02] <Billiard> chrisr: o you are trying to change your userid
[01:02] <hedkandi> well i'm off to bed bye!
[01:02] <durt> unperson, take a look at /etc/network/interfaces if there is a configured interface there nm won't touch it
[01:02] <unperson> durt, I assume that something changed about how things are handled on the back end, so that now the settings reside in a different place or something.
[01:02] <anthony_> I'm on 64Bit 9.10 beta with only 2GB's ram
[01:02] <jrib> chrisr: reboot and choose recovery mode at the grub menu
[01:02] <penguin42> manevra: Unless you have more than 3GB of RAM then I wouldn't bother
[01:03] <oscurochu> When I first installed Ubuntu 9.10, it asked if I wanted to encrypt my home directory. How can I encrypt other directories outside of my home directory?
[01:03] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: I'm not sure.
[01:03] <unperson> durt, Yes, eth0 is setup there.
[01:03] <manevra> penguin42 unfortunately i have 1 GB of ram. this means i386 is the best option for me right ?
[01:03] <penguin42> manevra: Either should work, I'd say stick with the 32bit
[01:03] <durt> unperson, unfortunately I don't use nm so I wouldn't be aware of any changes.
[01:03] <chrisr> jirb: ok ill try that now, if im not back in 3 minutes something has gone seriously wrong
[01:03] <digitalstimulus> anthony_, 64 bit addressing causes applications and code to use up more memory.  nothing wrong with being on 64 bit with 512 mb or RAM
[01:03] <manevra> ok
[01:03] <manevra> thanks a lot
[01:04] <Billiard> chrisr: why do you want to change your user id anyway?
[01:04] <digitalstimulus> anthony_, there is just a limitation on how big the numbers can be and it's around 4 GB
[01:04] <voodoomonk> can any one help me fix flash control problems with 9.10?
[01:04] <oscurochu> manevra: 64-bit is for users with more than 1GB of ram and a 64bit processor, of course, i believe
[01:04] <durt> unperson, my understanding is one or the other
[01:04] <unperson> durt, so in principle if I removed those lines from /etc/network/interfaces I could reconfigure my connection through nm and things ought to work right.
[01:04] <digitalstimulus> my rule of thumb is always go 64 bit unless your processor can't handle it
[01:04] <durt> unperson, that is my understanding
[01:04] <unperson> durt, I see.  I would have assumed one is basically a front end to the other before this issue cropped up.
[01:05] <penguin42> digitalstimulus: I run 64bit, given things like flash can be more tricky I tend not to recommend it for people unless it's likely to give a benefit through lots of ram, sure they might still win out
[01:05] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, how old is the computer?
[01:05] <durt> unperson, I believe nm uses other means to store it's info.
[01:05] <unperson> durt, But does that mean that the network won't start until Gnome does?
[01:05] <unperson> durt, right
[01:05] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: It's a good ten years old.
[01:05] <anthony_> So by running a 64Bit operating system my apps use more memory then if I was on 32 Bit?
[01:05] <durt> unperson, with nm, yes
[01:05] <penguin42> anthony_: Often
[01:05] <Billiard> anthony_: somewhat yes
[01:05] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, more than likely it's a USB 1.1 then, it's a low power interface compared to USB 2.0
[01:06] <digitalstimulus> some devices require "high speed usb 2.0"
[01:06] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, and can drop out if on usb 1.1
[01:06] <voodoomonk> can any one help me fix flash control problems with 9.10?
[01:06] <anthony_> I had heard that 64Bit let apps run smoother and. I didn't think that it would need more ram to do it :\
[01:06] <unperson> durt, I wonder what happens if you select recovery mode and choose to boot to a root prompt with network
[01:06] <unperson> durt, I guess it probably just tries DHCP
[01:06] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, you can purchase a PCI card that is USB 2.0 to supply the proper power if that is the problem
[01:06] <penguin42> anthony_: With a 64bit app any pointer is now 64bit rather than 32, if the app uses a lot of pointers then it will have to use more space
[01:07] <Billiard> anthony_: some things can be faster with 64bit such as encoding video
[01:07] <durt> unperson, it would all depend what is in /e/n/i
[01:07] <nitro_> has anyone else noticed that though ubuntu 9.10 is the late, great ver., it has a LOT of bugs that 9.04 didn't?  Or is it just me?
[01:07] <oscurochu> anthony_: you wouldnt benefit from a 64bit PC with less than 1GB of ram. i've talked to a lot of gentoo users, and they all say the same thing about it
[01:07] <caseyweederman> Ok, thanks. I'm not sure that's it, though.
[01:08] <syn-ack> nitro_, A new version is usually going to have bugs that the prior release didnt
[01:08] <baltadt> how do I copy files in terminal
[01:08] <unperson> durt, I see.
[01:08] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, me neither, but i would check the requirements of your device.  if it says USB 2.0, you probably don't have that
[01:08] <Billiard> baltadt: cp
[01:08] <durt> nitro_, there are a few regressions, see the release notes for known issues
[01:08] <Blank__> oscurochu, isn't the main benefit of 64bit the ability to page larger memory?
[01:08] <p1und3r> anyone else getting this "One or more of the mount listed in /etc/fstab could not yet be mounted" thing, and then it just boots in as normal?
[01:08] <anthony_> So then I should be good with my 2gigs and 64Bit right?
[01:08] <baltadt> ok when I try that it says "cp: omitting directory `/home/jason/Desktop/cck'"
[01:08] <unperson> durt, I trust that with nm the network still comes up regardless of which user is logged in (i.e., the settings are not per-user).
[01:08] <Billiard> p1und3r: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[01:08] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, the only other thing i can think of is poor support from the manufacturer
[01:08] <Blank__> (and to deal with larger calculations)
[01:08] <penguin42> baltadt: cp -r   for recursive for directories
[01:09] <krevitz> its not there
[01:09] <krevitz> D=
[01:09] <nitro_> syn-ack: do you think the ubuntu team is actively working to fix a lot of these?  I know it's free and all so it's kinda unkosher to be asking people to do more free work, but I was just wondering if they're working on them.  Do you know?
[01:09] <durt> unperson, I believe you need to be sudo (root) to set the network in nm
[01:09] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: It just says 'usb'. Hm. It's doing some different things here, on my laptop.
[01:09] <unperson> durt, Okay, that would make sense.
[01:09] <krevitz> Billiard: is not in there
[01:09] <anthony_> It seems that my 32Bit Vista uses way more memory then 64Bit Ubuntu. But then that's Windows for you :P
[01:09] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, does it have an external power source?
[01:09] <unperson> durt, Thanks for your help.
[01:10] <syn-ack> nitro_, I do know and there are sometimes reasons why bugs wernt fixed as the fix would cause a regression on the whole
[01:10] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, like batteries or wall plug
[01:10] <durt> unperson, again my nm experience is limited
[01:10] <oscurochu> Blank_: you're asking the wrong person. My desktop has a 64bit processor but when I was trying gentoo, all of the gentoo users were telling me I should use the x86 version since I had less than 1GB of ram (it may be 2GB or 4GB, but im pretty sure they said 1GB)
[01:10] <p1und3r> Billiard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8267664#post8267664
[01:10] <baltadt> ty penguin 42
[01:10] <unperson> durt, Understood
[01:10] <syn-ack> file a bug report and check in with it later, nitro_
[01:10] <nitro_> ok, thanx
[01:10] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: network manager still isn't reading it. No, it's just a 'thumbdrive' unit.
[01:10] <mikeru> penguin42: I generated a new mode using gtf with 1280 720 60 -f, then pastedit in /etc/fb.modes. I then used sudo fbset "1280x720-60" (what i named the mode) and it didn't change. I ran fbset again and it told me it was still on 1024x768-76
[01:10] <Darkedge> uh OK
[01:10] <baltadt> ok 1 more stupid question, how do you respond to someone directly like you did penguin42
[01:10] <Darkedge> Lets put it like this
[01:11] <Billiard> p1und3r: do you still have your same swap partition?
[01:11] <krevitz> can someone please help me
[01:11] <p1und3r> Billiard: i didn't alter anything
[01:11] <penguin42> mikeru: Hmm not sure
[01:11] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, more than likely it needs USB 2.0  there are special things you have to do to setup GSM connections, I ddon't have any experience in it though
[01:11] <penguin42> baltadt: I just typed there name with a : after - nothing clever!
[01:11] <Darkedge> This is more APT related, But how can I list all config files for a certain package?
[01:11] <durt> !tab | baltadt
[01:11] <baltadt> penguin42: ty for helping a noob
[01:11] <Billiard> p1und3r: run `free -om`
[01:11] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, google and forum reading is probably your best chance at success
[01:12] <penguin42> baltadt: np!
[01:12] <digitalstimulus> caseyweederman, searching for your specific device
[01:12] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: I'll look it up. Ohoh, google and forum reading have gotten me in circles.
[01:12] <p1und3r> Billiard: ok what is this telling me
[01:12] <unperson> Darkedge, You can list all files with 'dpkg -L [packagename]' IIRC
[01:12] <Walt1> Hi there, I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 an currently my skype crashes when I try to make a video call.  Audio is Ok, the computer is an ACEROne D0250
[01:12] <Billiard> p1und3r: what are the numbers for swap 0 or nonzero
[01:12] <unperson> Darkedge, All files installed by the package, that is.
[01:12] <Darkedge> unperson, Thanks
[01:12] <Darkedge> :)
[01:13] <p1und3r> Billiard: 12000 total, 0 used  1200 free
[01:13] <krevitz> can someone please help me ? D=
[01:13] <unperson> Darkedge, Otherwise, if you check the man page for a tool it ought to talk about the config files that it uses.
[01:13] <Billiard> p1und3r: k
[01:13] <weegi> does anyone know the command to make ubuntu click?
[01:13] <wers> i'm thinking of exporting my gmail contacts to a file then import it to evolution. is that the most decent way to sync contacts?
[01:13] <weegi> like if i type "XXXX" in an .sh file
[01:13] <Billiard> p1und3r: o, i see the problem
[01:13] <weegi> that a keyboard shortcut points to
[01:13] <p1und3r> Billiard: in gparted i have /dev/sda5 swap under /dev/sda2 extended
[01:13] <Billiard> p1und3r: o sorry nvm i dont, ha
[01:13] <weegi> it would click underneath my cursor
[01:13] <digitalstimulus> wers, have you tried googling gmail/evolution sync
[01:14] <bencoder> well that was very painless
[01:14] <Darkedge> uh OK I'm trying to find the config files for FoF I tried "fretsonfire" on dpkg it says its not installed, how can I get the package name?
[01:14] <digitalstimulus> wers, that is probably a very common inquiry
[01:14] <dajhorn> weegi: You can `echo -e` the BEL character in a script to get the system beep.
[01:14] <Walt1> does anyone else have these issues with skype crashing when a video call is setup?
[01:14] <Billiard> p1und3r: run `sudo mount -a`   any errors?
[01:14] <fitus> hello everybody, I want to buy a new video card and I need help deciding what video card to buy
[01:14] <digitalstimulus> Walt1, does the camera work?
[01:14] <digitalstimulus> Walt1, and has it worked before in ubuntu
[01:15] <p1und3r> Billiard: nope
[01:15] <p1und3r> Billiard: no output
[01:15] <anthony_> I can't get any of my webcams to work with ubuntu lol
[01:15] <ChogyDan> fitus: have you checked the fsf website?
[01:15] <durt> fitus, do yourself a favor and get a nvidia also OT.
[01:15] <fitus> ok
[01:15] <weegi> dajhorn: i'm trying to cheat flash games by changing my keyboard prefrences, so when you hit "x" it clicks, and when you hold down "x" it clicks ALOT!
[01:15] <Walt1> yes. works fine when the test button is pressed and works well in cheese
[01:15] <wers> digitalstimulus, yeah. that's the best i got. to export contacts to a file then import on evolution
[01:15] <Darkedge> Guys?
[01:15] <digitalstimulus> webcam support in linux is best done by purchasing stuff that already has a good support base from the community.  webcams are a dime a dozen and most don't have good linux support
[01:16] <Hans_Henrik> is it likely that the WLAN driver has impact on how much power is devoted to the WLAN card in linux?
[01:16] <weegi> dajhorn: because everyone enjoys a good flash game
[01:16] <fitus> any nvidia card will work or a specific model ?
[01:16] <witakr> Whats the command line to get my video card info in terminal?
[01:16] <dajhorn> weegi: Do you mean the keyboard repeat rate instead of "clicks"?
[01:16] <Darkedge> How can I find the name of a package, or what dpkg sees it as?
[01:16] <unperson> Okay, so /etc/network/interfaces defines various interfaces that can be brought up, right?  But presumably there's a file elsewhere that tells the OS which interfaces to bring up at boot.  Can anyone point me to the right place?
[01:17] <durt> fitus, your going to be hard pressed to find an nvidia card that does not work with linux, again this is OT.
[01:17] <weegi> dajhorn:  "left mouse button"
[01:17] <penguin42> unperson: If that file has the word 'auto' on the line for the interface it gets bought up at boot
[01:17] <ChogyDan> unperson: I thought that was the file
[01:17] <Walt1> I don't think the issue is the webcam, I think it is with skype 2.1 Beta running under Ubuntu 9.10. It worked on 9.04
[01:17] <fitus> so all nvidia's work otb?
[01:17] <unperson> Darkedge, What do you know?  Just the name of the command?
[01:17] <bastid_raZor> Darkedge: fretsonfire-game is the game code..
[01:17] <unperson> penguin42, Ah, got it
[01:18] <durt> !ot | fitus
[01:18] <digitalstimulus> Walt1, did you get it from a repository?
[01:18] <penguin42> unperson: Although a lot of magic now happens in /etc/NetworkManager and I can't honestly say what happens there
[01:18] <unperson> ChogyDan, Apparently you were right
[01:18] <anthony_> durt: My NVIDIA GFORCE 7400 GO Freezes up my pc randomly when I use preliminarydrivers for it. Which means no world of warcraft for me :(
[01:18] <p1und3r> Billiard: thanks for taking a look i do appreciate it, it's a strange problem.. i guess the error is harmless just annoying me alot
[01:18] <Sir_Konrad> yo penguin42.
[01:18] <dajhorn> fitus: Look at the release notes for the Nvidia 185 driver, and choose a card that is fully supported by that driver version.
[01:18] <durt> anthony_, preliminary?
[01:18] <weegi> dajhorn;  i make a keyboard combination preform a mouse "click"  and change the repeat rate to REALLY FAST
[01:18] <fitus> ok
[01:18] <penguin42> Sir_Konrad: Yo indeed
[01:18] <unperson> penguin42, The problem I have is that NM seems totally unaware of my existing connection.
[01:18] <Darkedge> bastid_raZor, Thanks I was trying fretsonfire :)
[01:18] <dajhorn> weegi: No, that doesn't work for a mouse click.
[01:18] <rbunny> hello =)
[01:18] <Walt1> No,from the Skype website
[01:19] <dajhorn> weegi: Automating mouse clicks is difficult.
[01:19] <penguin42> unperson: I haven't really got my head around NM
[01:19] <anthony_> meant to say *Proprietary
[01:19] <ChogyDan> unperson: if you use the interfaces file for an interface, NM will ignore it
[01:19] <weegi> dajhorn;  but possable
[01:19] <Sir_Konrad> it's amazing to guys can recognize eachother in this jungle penguin42. ;P
[01:19] <rbunny> Is there anyone who would be nice enough to try and help me out?
[01:19] <bastid_raZor> Darkedge: if you use synaptic and do a quick search.. that is how i find most things.
[01:19] <dajhorn> weegi: Yes, but it is probably deep voodoo.
[01:19] <weegi> anyone know how to automate mouse clicks?
[01:19] <digitalstimulus> Walt1, why not install it from a repository?  it may not be the lastest version sometimes, but usually the repository stuff works well
[01:19] <weegi> dajhorn; and whichcraft
[01:19] <unperson> Darkedge, Generally doing apt-cache search [search term] will give you a list of packages that have that in the description.  If you search on a command name this way, you'll generally find the package that contains it.
[01:20] <anthony_> durt: Meant to say Proprietary. The screen gets all wierd looking and the computer freezes and I have to hard restart.
[01:20] <penguin42> Sir_Konrad: Erm what?
[01:20] <munchen80> When you install ubnutu 9.04 server with virtulization what type does it install. I am assuming of course it is hypervisor but what type is it??
[01:20] <durt> anthony_, there might be an issue with that GO, check the nvidia site for support as dajhorn just mentioned
[01:20] <Hans_Henrik> is program "iwpriv" on clean install shipped with Karmic Desktop release?
[01:20] <witakr> Whats the command line to get my video card info in terminal?
[01:20] <Walt1> Ok, do you know where the repository is for 32 bit skype?  Thanks
[01:20] <Darkedge> unperson, bastid_raZor Thanks :)
[01:20] <penguin42> witakr: lspci | grep -i vga
[01:20] <digitalstimulus> Walt1, google skype repository
[01:20] <witakr> penguin42, thanks
[01:21] <ChogyDan> witakr: sudo lshw -C video     the -C video might be wrong
[01:21] <unperson> ChogyDan, So I was told.  I'm trying to figure out what I need to do if I want to start having NM handle my network connection.  It sounds like I probably have to comment out those portions of /etc/network/interfaces and then configure the connection through NM.
[01:21] <weegi> anyone know how to automate mouse clicks, with keyboard shortcuts?
[01:21] <Walt1> Ok thanks, bye
[01:21] <Sir_Konrad> it's amazing to guys can recognize eachother in this jungle penguin42. ;P
[01:21] <ChogyDan> unperson: correct
[01:21] <anthony_> durt: I have spent hours looking for support on it. But I can't find anything about it. And I don't like posting on forums because people accuse you of not looking for yourself. :\
[01:21] <penguin42> Sir_Konrad: Erm well I don't actually recognise you I'm afraid
[01:21] <unperson> ChogyDan, Not sure whether or not that's a good idea, but it would be nice to have a GUI available for manipulating network settings and setting up a VPN (I haven't done this yet, but I'd like to).
[01:21] <Sir_Konrad> penguin42: ##club-ubuntu. ;P
[01:22] <Darkedge> also
[01:22] <psycho_oreos> munchen80, a few kernel specific modules I suppose, depending on your arch and which version, it may or may not enable paravirtualisation kernel support
[01:22] <digitalstimulus> anthony_, it's always good when posting or asking to also let the people know some of the steps you've tried
[01:22] <durt> anthony_, if there does not seem to be common issues with it, I would suggest hardware failure.
[01:22] <Darkedge> Is there a RPMFusion type-thing for distros. that use dpkg?
[01:22] <witakr> Ok, now that  I have that info can someone please help me figure out why my computer freezes when I try to play games like tremulous and urbanterror?
[01:22] <penguin42> Sir_Konrad: Ah well, yes we do hide in there :-)
[01:22] <weegi> anyone know how to automate mouse clicks?
[01:22] <Sir_Konrad> lol
[01:22] <Darkedge> brb
[01:22] <penguin42> weegi: What do you want to do with them?
[01:22] <anthony_> durt: It doesn't happen in my Vista or Xp.
[01:22] <ChogyDan> unperson: I dunno.  I switched to NM when it came out.  works for me, but it doesn't start internet till login...
[01:23] <digitalstimulus> witakr, do you have a 3d card?
[01:23] <weegi> penguin42: i am quite amused by flash games
[01:23] <weegi> penguin42: nothing mmo
[01:23] <unperson> ChogyDan, Yeah.  That's a bit weird to me.  Okay, really weird.
[01:23] <penguin42> weegi: Indeed, I'm somewhat addicted to desktop tower defense
[01:23] <davidjheinrich_> was I just here ? I pressed some button and accidentally disconnected
[01:23] <munchen80> OK thanks
[01:23] <anthony_> durt: I have Vista, Xp, and Ubuntu all installed on this pc and te only one I have video problems with is Ubuntu
[01:24] <unperson> ChogyDan, Most of the time I leave it logged in, but it would suck if I happened to forget to leave myself logged in (say after a reboot) and then couldn't SSH in later when I wanted to.
[01:24] <ChogyDan> unperson: yeah, it sucks if you get any sorta failure preventing login  :P
[01:24] <weegi> pennguin42: i know its possable, just not how
[01:24] <anthony_> durt: And only when I have the proprietory drivers installed, otherwise ubuntu works fine
[01:24] <ChogyDan> unperson: I have it set to autologin
[01:24] <unperson> ChogyDan, That's true.  I hadn't even thought of that.
[01:24] <witakr> digitalstimulus, yes i think so
[01:25] <awisgod> how do i start xmms2 after i've installed it?
[01:25] <digitalstimulus> witakr, what card do you have?
[01:25] <witakr> digitalstimulus, nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce Go 6150]
[01:25] <witakr> its a laptop
[01:25] <unperson> ChogyDan, And you're fairly certain about this?
[01:25] <digitalstimulus> witakr, the 6150 chipset is very limited in its 3d capability, it's not really a gaming chipset
[01:25] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, the problem i had i fixed it
[01:26] <ChogyDan> unperson: yes?  which part?
[01:26] <digitalstimulus> witakr, it will render 3d though
[01:26] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: How?
[01:26] <anthony_> witakr: What game are you trying to play?
[01:26] <unperson> ChogyDan, Eh, the part about the network doesn't come up until someone logs in.
[01:26] <Darkedge> B
[01:26] <Darkedge> R
[01:26] <Darkedge> B
[01:26] <aperson> jrib, I went through both the lamp setup page and the serverguide to no avail
[01:26] <thiebaude> when i edited my xorg conf i had mispelled a word
[01:26] <Darkedge> :))
[01:26] <Voss> the 6150 is not that hot even as a desktop graphics chipset
[01:26] <FloodBot3> Darkedge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <Darkedge> FloodBot Ok
[01:27] <witakr> digitalstimulus, well that is most unfortunate, I have drivers in the hardware driver util that says I have 3d accelleration drivers available but not active yet
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[01:27] <digitalstimulus> witakr, have you downloaded the restricted drivers?  you need to do that before you get any 3d
[01:27] <weegi> anyone know how to automate mouse clicks?
[01:27] <ChogyDan> weegi: maybe kautoclick?
[01:27] <aperson> !ops | Prikolistik
[01:27] <witakr> the last time I installed one, when I was using xubuntu, it made my laptop crash and I had to reinstall ubuntu karmic
[01:27] <yoyoned> weegi: for what?
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[01:28] <anthony_> weegi: there are programs that do autoclicks.
[01:28] <digitalstimulus> witakr, the nvidia restricted drivers should work fine.  i have used it on a few machines without a hitch
[01:28] <anthony_> But sadly I know non for linux
[01:28] <witakr> digitalstimulus,  i am trying to play tremulous and urbanterror
[01:28] <Luke> does anyone know who to tell what package a file belongs to?
[01:28] <Luke> how*
[01:28] <weegi> yoyoned; flash games
[01:28] <LjL> Luke: dpkg -S file
[01:28] <Luke> thanks
[01:29] <weegi> anthony_: like what
[01:29] <LjL> Luke: if it's installed. if it's not, use apt-file or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <digitalstimulus> witakr, in console type "lsmod | grep nv"
[01:29] <Luke> LjL: htanks much
[01:29] <anthony_> weegi: I have a runescape autoclicker that works on anything, not just runescape.
[01:29] <ctmjr> !spam | Prikolistik
[01:30] <Amaranth> LjL-Temp: apt-file is always faster
[01:30] <Voss> witakr, not with 6150 you wont unless its at like 640x480
[01:30] <weegi> anthony_: do  you have a download page, or an .deb?
[01:30] <kp> i need help
[01:30] <kp> for grub2
[01:30] <digitalstimulus> witakr, what is the result of the command?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> !ask | kp
[01:30] <aperson> !grub2 > kp
[01:30] <anthony_> weegi: it's a windows program... so you might be able to use it through wine
[01:30] <witakr> digitalstimulus, i typed the command as requested and nothing happened
[01:31] <kp> k so when i boot ubuntu i get an error (off live cd when i decide to boot from first hdd) error:out of disk
[01:31] <arand> kp: specify.
[01:31] <kp> i was able to fix this
[01:31] <anthony_> weegi: but you would also have to play your game through wine as well
[01:31] <weegi> anthony_, doubt it, i have windows programs that work, but no windows
[01:31] <kp> by opening temrinal and
[01:31] <digitalstimulus> witakr, then you probably aren't using the nvidia module.  the nvidia module (restricted driver) is required to get the 3d functionality of your graphics chip
[01:31] <ChogyDan> weegi: have you tried xmacro?
[01:31] <kp> putting some ssentence in this popup window...
[01:31] <aperson> kp: try to keep it to fewer lines, this channel moves fast and your messages get split up
[01:31] <kp> like a completely new pop up
[01:31] <kp> ok
[01:32] <weegi> chogydan, from where do i get?
[01:32] <anthony_> weegi: I'll check to see if the page I got it from still exists
[01:32]  * greezmunkey is back from baking bread, mmm
[01:32] <ChogyDan> weegi: sudo apt-get install xmacro
[01:32] <kp> I forgot what the sentence was to put in and also the command the made the popup window...
[01:32] <witakr> digitalstimulus, sounds good, what do i need to do to enable 3d functionality? Get the module?
[01:32] <Darkedge> Anyone know a good replacment for the horrible default Ubuntu theme?
[01:32] <kp> plz help
[01:32] <aperson> Darkedge, try elementary
[01:33] <aperson> kp: you're going to have to be more specific as to what you need help with
[01:33] <linxeh> I've just installed 9.10. on 9.04 I was prompted to install drivers for my 9400m - this time I've not got the restricted drivers ? do I have to do anything to enable them ?
[01:33] <unperson> ChogyDan, So clearly you generally know more about this than me, but I think that part may not be accurate.  I realized that I have another machine running Karmic headless.  I think NM is handling interfaces (/etc/network/interfaces definitely isn't) and I can ssh in with the who command showing no one else logged in.
[01:33] <usser_> linxeh, make sure they show up gksudo jockey-gtk
[01:33] <kp> when i boot ubuntu from the first hard disk off the live cd i get error:out of disk
[01:33] <linxeh> usser_: ok ta
[01:33] <unperson> ChogyDan, Now, GDM is definitely running (I haven't bothered to disable it), but no one is logged in.
[01:34] <unperson> ChogyDan, What's more, it looks from the output of ps like NM started before GDM.
[01:34] <weegi> chogydan: where is it after i install?
[01:34] <ChogyDan> unperson: ah, so nm is handling it?  cool.
[01:34] <kp> someone help
[01:34] <unperson> ChogyDan, It appears on that machine NM is handling things and starting at boot, before login.
[01:35] <digitalstimulus> witakr, you have to install it under System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[01:35] <liath> okay ... I've been to #grub with this and the one guy I had there couldn't figure out what ubuntu did that broke this... but why in the world does it NOT honor GRUB_DEFAULT=saved?
[01:35] <bencoder> anyone know how to stop the new firefox making an alert sound when you try to close it with tabs open (without turning off the ubuntu alert sounds)
[01:35] <hipitihop> When I do "/sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid$ sudo echo -n 3-4:1.0 >unbind" I get "-bash: unbind: Permission denied" anyone help ?
[01:35] <andey> i have no user on my system with sudo powers, what do i do?
[01:35] <rahduke> I'm running chromium and set it to open links from other programs like pidgin, now I don't know how to set it back to firefox as the default program for links
[01:35] <rahduke> can someonehelp
[01:36] <kp> plz...
[01:36] <kp> help
[01:36] <unperson> ChogyDan, I suppose there's only one way to know for sure.  I'll just try it.  Thanks for your help.
[01:36] <ChogyDan> weegi: meh, Im trying it, but I can't figure it out.  Maybe there is more advice on the net, sorry
[01:36] <rahduke> bencoder: check about:config in firefox
[01:36] <ChogyDan> unperson: yw
[01:36] <arand> !patience | kp
[01:36] <witakr> digitalstimulus, ok, ok...   see last time i did THAT my xubuntu crashed and I had to reinstall... do you think it was something to do with the xcfe desktop enviroment? or is it more likely my hardware?
[01:37] <witakr> digitalstimulus, im using karmic Ubuntu now though
[01:37] <weegi> chogydan; i've been to google and back, i know how to do everything, all i really need is the "click" command
[01:37] <bencoder> rahduke: did look, couldn't see anything :(
[01:37] <digitalstimulus> witakr, it should run fine
[01:37] <arand> kp:so you are unable to boot the ubuntu install currently?
[01:37] <weegi> choggydan:  all i have to do is put it in <> and it will be fine
[01:37] <ChogyDan> weegi: do you want clicks in one place?
[01:37] <rahduke> comeon my question is easy, i'm just an idiot and can't figure it out
[01:37] <kp> yes
[01:37] <digitalstimulus> witakr, either way, that is what you need to play games :)
[01:37] <kp> i was able to with 9.04 though
[01:37] <rahduke> bencoder: lemme look into it for ya
[01:37] <weegi> chogydan; under the cursor
[01:37] <rahduke> bencoder: I have the same issue
[01:37] <Edson`> what I try to boot Ubuntu it says no loaded kernel. help?
[01:37] <Billiard> kp: did you check the md5 on your iso, did you run the cd check
[01:38] <Faceman> If I'm wanting to run ubuntu on my PPC mac, can I just run 9.10 as usual (with a few configurations I suppose) or do I have to download the "Desktop CD" version?
[01:38] <bencoder> rahduke: I can turn off the alert itself, but i still want the window to pop up, just not the sound. Never used to do that
[01:38] <kp> i how?
[01:38] <kp> how*?
[01:38] <rahduke> bencoder: yup i remember
[01:38] <witakr> digitalstimulus, ok, now there are multiple options in hardware drivers for me to choose, how do i know which one to select?
[01:38] <noob-gnome> hello
[01:38] <arand> kp: and you tried to replace grub-legacy with grub2? In what way?
[01:38] <Celroc> Hi all
[01:39] <digitalstimulus> witakr, whichever says recommended
[01:39] <Celroc> Does anyone here use WINE, or a derivative of it such as Crossover or Cedega?
[01:39] <Billiard> Celroc: what is your issue
[01:39] <noob-gnome> yes
[01:40] <witakr> digitalstimulus, ok here goes.... fingers crossed.......
[01:40] <witakr> brb i hope
[01:40] <Darkedge> BRB
[01:40] <noob-gnome> does anyone have contingecy issue with ubuntu
[01:40] <Celroc> Billiard: Well, when using the Windows version of Firefox through Crossover, some Japanese characters won't display, particularily on Adobe applications
[01:41] <LordQuackstar> I'm a little problem getting my ssh keys to work on github. In the terminal, i've generated new keys, added them to github, and successfully connected. But when i get into git gui, it still says Acess Denied (publickey). And suggestions?
[01:41] <Billiard> Celroc: is there a good reason you are using windows firefox in wine?
[01:41] <rahduke> anyone watching cspan
[01:41] <rahduke> this shit is a pisser
[01:41] <Billiard> !language | rahduke
[01:41] <nowimproved> Ubuntu keeps turning black every 10 minutes...i use fluxbox..what can i do
[01:41] <durt> !ot | rahduke
[01:41] <witakr> downloading and installing...
[01:41] <hipitihop>  Why does sudo not have permission for "/sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid$ sudo echo -n 3-4:1.0 >unbind" I get "-bash: unbind: Permission denied" anyone help ?
[01:41] <rahduke> lol
[01:42] <rahduke> bencoder: I can't figure it out man
[01:42] <Celroc> Billiard: Yeah... I can't get to these pages on the Linux version of Firefox, yet...
[01:42] <noob-gnome> nowimproved:you can install another window manager
[01:42] <aperson> I'm having trouble with my lamp server serving up php files, viewing a directory results in the browse wanting to download a phtml file.  I've gone through the troubleshooting that ubottu spits out and also the serverguide.  can anyone help?
[01:42] <witakr> digitalstimulus, thank you for your assistance, if this doesnt work then I will just have to live without the games I suppose
[01:42] <nowimproved> noob-gnome, its a screensaver or something..i don't freaking get it
[01:42] <bencoder> rahduke: :( yeah I couldn't find anything either. i'll just mute the alert sounds then for now
[01:42] <rahduke> how do I change the default browser for opening links from other applications. i.e. pidgin, pdfreader, Openoffice etc etc
[01:42] <durt> aperson, if no one answers try #ubuntu-server
[01:42] <kp> no
[01:42] <kp> im using
[01:42] <aperson> durt, thank, good to know
[01:42] <kp> 9.10
[01:43] <aperson> !enter | kp
[01:43] <Billiard> Celroc: idk, ive never tried windows firefox in wine or needed japanese characters, do you have the proper fonts installed?
[01:43] <Darkedge> uh noob question
[01:43] <DigitalKiwi> aperson: the webserver should have a config option for how to handle certain files
[01:43] <witakr> rahduke, System > Preferences > Prefered Applications
[01:43] <Darkedge> How do I apply another bootscreen?
[01:43] <kp> just what is the command for some popup window to come up and show me all the grub stuff like a txt. file
[01:43] <rahduke> lol
[01:43] <Celroc> Billiard: Not sure...
[01:43] <noob-gnome> nowimproved: the quickest fix is to use another windows manager you should have a least 2 by default
[01:43] <rahduke> duh how dum am i
[01:43] <DigitalKiwi> i don't use apache though so can't help beyond that much :(
[01:44] <Celroc> Billiard: How can I check?
[01:44] <witakr> rahduke, nope, im here for help too :)
[01:44] <noob-gnome> nowimproved: with gnome you can easily fix your screensaver etc
[01:44] <rahduke> witakr: what's your issue?
[01:44] <rahduke> mayb i can help
[01:44] <nowimproved> noob-gnome, i disabled the screen saver in gnome..
[01:44] <Billiard> Celroc: not sure on the best way to install fonts for wine apps, you probably could put windows fonts in the windows/fonts folder
[01:44] <Faceman> anyone here running their linux on a PPC ibook?
[01:44] <aperson> kp gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[01:44] <Billiard> Celroc: but there may be packages to do this for you, idk
[01:45] <arand> kp: Depends on whether you are using grub-legacy or grub2, and in general, knowing that won't maje you happy...
[01:45] <Celroc> Faceman: Pardon me, this is off-topic, but is there a version of 9.10 for PPC?
[01:45] <joel> Whats wrong in this sentence?
[01:45] <joel>  sudo mount -o loop worms.img /home/joel/H├żmtningar -t udf
[01:45] <Faceman> I think so Celroc
[01:45] <Darkedge> uh How do I apply a GDM Theme in Ubuntu 9.10?
[01:45] <Faceman> theres one here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily-live/current/
[01:45] <aperson> Darkedge, drag and drop it into the window
[01:45] <rahduke> Darkedge: download it to ur desktop
[01:46] <Celroc> Billiard: Thanks for the tip
[01:46]  * Sir_Konrad is away. He'll be back later.
[01:46] <rahduke> aperson got it
[01:46] <Billiard> Celroc: np
[01:46] <witakr> rahduke, well I was helped by digitalstimulus and now I am trying the solution we found to see if it works, thanks though... but just fyi, i was unable to play games like tremulous and he told me its likely because I do not have 3d accelleration functionallity enabled and thats what Im doing now, enabling it.. sort of
[01:46] <noob-gnome> nowimproved: did you check the time for the screensaver to activate.
[01:46] <joel> Vad ├żr fel h├żr?  sudo mount -o loop worms.img /home/joel/H├żmtningar -t udf
[01:46] <joel> Gah
[01:46] <Darkedge> I tried that
[01:46] <bjoern_> HI, I need help. I just upgraded from jaunty to karmic (AMD64). Upgrading stopped before clean up. Now I cannot reboot any more. Old kernel/initrd (2.6.28) are still in menu.lst (grub) but won't boot. New kernel 2.6.31 has no initrd. Any ideas?
[01:46] <Celroc> Billiard: I'm sorry to bother you, but do you happen to know where I can get the fonts?
[01:46] <kp> o i rmber...i have to edit the quiet splash
[01:46] <witakr> excuse me... the solution that HE found...lol
[01:46] <rahduke> witakr: jus make sure u get the right drivers, there are some pretty cool games fer linx
[01:46] <Celroc> Faceman: Thanks
[01:46] <kp> there something i have to replace it with
[01:46] <LordQuackstar> Hmm... git gui says Permission denied (publickey). but ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>says in the debug debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).
[01:46] <rahduke> witakr: ati cards are a pain tho
[01:47] <Billiard> Celroc: google, or check if there is some sort of wine fonts package in the package manager
[01:47] <ocatacoo> do I need to register my nick on this channel
[01:47] <rahduke> Darkedge: you can also goto system>Preferences>appearance
[01:47] <Celroc> Billiard: Thanks
[01:47] <rahduke> and install from there
[01:47] <witakr> oh crap, its time to restart... wish me luck.... lol later yall'
[01:47] <Faceman> are you going to use it for one of your machines, Celroc?
[01:47] <arand> kp: http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-upgrade-to-grub2-on-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[01:47] <rahduke> Darkedge: what kind of theme are you installing?
[01:48] <witakr> digitalstimulus, thanks again
[01:48] <Celroc> Faceman: I might
[01:48] <beeftube> has anyone got the 9.10 apt repository for wine? it looks like the one here is hacked or something
[01:48] <beeftube> http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[01:48] <Darkedge> Elementry
[01:48] <rbunny> hello, I'm totally new to linux and can't get dvds to play... anyone feel like doing a good deed?
[01:48] <joel> Is it possible to extact a .img file?
[01:48] <Billiard> beeftube: it works for me
[01:48] <Celroc> Faceman: Not sure if I will, but I was looking for the 9.10 a few weeks back and didn't find it
[01:48] <rahduke> Darkedge: is it a GTKtheme
[01:48] <rahduke> ?
[01:48] <noob-gnome> rbunny:check your bios settings
[01:49] <Darkedge> The archive is called eGDM
[01:49] <Billiard> beeftube: i just followed that guide exactly
[01:49] <noob-gnome> rbunny: you need to make sure you can boot from your disc drive
[01:49] <joel> anyone?
[01:49] <rbunny> noob-gnome: umm... I wouldn't know how =I That's how lost I am
[01:49] <len> Anyone here know much about getting alsa to work?  After upgrading one machine using an Asus M2N motherboard I lost audio.  snd-hda-intel is loading, but when I try to run aplay -l I get an error about no sound card found.
[01:49] <durt> beeftube, latest wine is in the karmic repos.
[01:49] <rahduke> Darkedge: can you link me?
[01:49] <beeftube> thanks durt
[01:49] <rsc___> guys. when i set up shared folders in Ubuntu (right click on folder -> sharing options), what config file in /etc is this modifi]ying?
[01:49] <durt> beeftube, wine1.2 that is
[01:50] <rahduke> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/eGDM?content=92321
[01:50] <Celroc> rbunny: After you insert a DVD (assuming it's a movie DVD), what happens?
[01:50] <rahduke> if thats it that is a login theme, has to be installed differently
[01:50] <noob-gnome> rbunny:when you turn on your computer. it will read press f2 or something for settings you push what it tells you the special key is different from computer to computer
[01:50] <Faceman> I was actually wandering if anyone knew if the desktop CD version was diffrent from the others. It says its for people with less than 256MB of ram and PPC. But i have 1.5GB of ram, though PPC.
[01:50] <sireorion> how do i see a Dvd movie in ubuntu
[01:50] <ocatacoo> do "ls /proc/asound
[01:50] <Billiard> rsc___: it may be /etc/samba/smb.conf, but im not sure
[01:50] <Faceman> so do I have to use desktop CD or can I just use the regulaur version?
[01:50] <kp> im not upragdingfrom 9.04...im doing a new fresh install
[01:50] <rsc___> Billiard: thats what i was assuming but it wasn't. any other clues?
[01:50] <Darkedge> To the theme?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  sireorion
[01:50] <awisgod> is it possible to change the skin of the audacious player? and if possible, how?
[01:51] <Darkedge> http://www.elementary-project.com/downloads.html
[01:51] <noob-gnome> rbunny: you then go to the boot tab and make sure that your cd drive is bootable
[01:51] <sireorion> sebsebseb: Page not found 404
[01:51] <ocatacoo> that work len
[01:51] <rbunny> calroc: first it asked me what to open with, i chose totem, it couldn't show it. Apparently i needed plugins. Then with help i got some stuff downloaded, but still not working
[01:51] <arand> len: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting has a bunch of possible steps
[01:51] <sebsebseb> sireorion: I don't know, but libdvdcss2 or libdvdcss3  that's what you want
[01:51] <rbunny> calroc: and now it seems I can't even get the dvd out anymore... damn
[01:52] <rahduke> Darkedge: you need to extract the tar.gz from the zip
[01:52] <rahduke> then install
[01:52] <sireorion> sebsebseb: im new with linux plz guide me
[01:52] <koppe> Is it possible to do something akin to Gentoo's "emerge -deep world"...  I.e. Re-download, re-discover dependencies, and re-install everything?
[01:52] <rahduke> Darkedge: its nice i'm going to try it
[01:52] <noob-gnome> i've got to go, babysitting
[01:52] <sebsebseb> sireorion: ,because of legal reasons  commercial DVD support is not provided in Ubuntu
[01:52] <ocatacoo> is the dvd found by the dmesg
[01:52] <Celroc> rbunny: If you want to remove it, try finding the DVD icon on the desktop and right-clicking, then selecting "eject". This sometimes ejects stubborn discs
[01:52] <arand> kp: try http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/312731/
[01:53] <len> It shows a card0 and a card1 when I do a ls /proc/asound
[01:53] <Billiard> rsc___: not sure
[01:53] <sebsebseb> sireorion: however there is a program that you can get  that will provide such support
[01:53] <rsc___> I got it Billard. it's in /var/lib/samba/usershares :D
[01:53] <sireorion> sebsebseb: so u mean that i cant see ant dvd movies in ubuntu..... crap.... changing to xp again
[01:53] <Billiard> rsc___: ok cool
[01:53] <Darkedge> "Can't move directory over directory"
[01:53] <sebsebseb> sireorion: no
[01:53] <greezmunkey> A DVD movie... I have to try that, brb
[01:53] <koppe> Some components of KDE went MIA, I want to re-install them, but without un-installing everything KDE-related first...
[01:53] <sebsebseb> sireorion: you just need to install a program
[01:53] <Darkedge> How can I delete the "directory"? XD
[01:53] <sebsebseb> sireorion: then you can
[01:54] <Celroc> Wait, are you guys saying that if I put a movie DVD in my drive then go to Application>Sound & Video> movie Player, it won't run it?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> Celroc: if it is a commercial DVD yes
[01:54] <sireorion> but how do i install a program
[01:54] <sebsebseb> Celroc: ,but there's a program that can be installed so they can be played
[01:54] <Darkedge> Celroc, Get VLC
[01:54] <Celroc> sebsebseb: I didn't know that. Huh
[01:54] <Darkedge> Windows cant play it either :P
[01:54] <sebsebseb> Darkedge: that does not have support by default
[01:54] <arand> !dvd
[01:54] <ocatacoo> do dmesg in terminal if you have a dvd it should find it then just in olayer
[01:54] <rbunny> calroc: thanks, when I re-inserted the dvd and opened it with "movie player", not working, and no error msg
[01:54] <sebsebseb> arand: yes I was going to do that, but also | pipe them
[01:54] <Ignatius_> is there a way to have different desktop backgrounds for separate desktops?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !troll > Darkedge
[01:55] <Celroc> Darkedge: Thanks for the tip
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Celroc: no he is being stupid
[01:55] <Billiard> Ignatius_: akaik gnome doesnt support it
[01:55] <Celroc> sebsebseb: Huh?
[01:55] <Darkedge> uh
[01:55] <Ignatius_> Billiard: owh :(
[01:55] <greezmunkey> hmm, no URI handler implemented for DVD...cool something else to fix! :)
[01:55] <ocatacoo> wuh
[01:55] <arand> sebsebseb: yea, but there seemed to be several people asking.
[01:55] <Darkedge> How was I trolling?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> Celroc: He told you to get VLC, which won't play commercial DVD's inside  Ubuntu by default
[01:55] <rbunny> celroc: thanks, when I re-inserted the dvd and opened it with "movie player", not working, and no error msg
[01:56] <stuartpb> how do i turn off the prompt for my password when i resume from hibernation?
[01:56] <ocatacoo> get fluenda
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Darkedge: see above
[01:56] <Celroc> sebsebseb: Oh. I hadn't tried to play movie DVDs on this computer yet, so this was surprising
[01:56] <courpse> My update manager is telling me that packages are not authenticated, where can i check if they are non-malicious packages to update? pm-utils is the package this time.
[01:56] <tjc> hello everybody, how can i check what partition my GRUB is installed on ?
[01:57] <Darkedge> uh If I said "Windows sucks because Linux can play DVDs and "it" can't" THATS trolling.
[01:57] <rsc___> hey guys, when I set up remote desktop on ubuntu (system - preferences - remote desktop), I get an avahi service of "rsc's remote desktop on Haven" (that shows up on a mac finder sidebar). how can I get rid of that?
[01:57] <DigitalKiwi> that's*
[01:57] <bastid_raZor> eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[01:58] <Celroc> rbunny: Sorry, I didn't know that you couldn't play DVD's in Ubuntu unless you added packages. Someone else here can likely point you in the right direction
[01:58] <greezmunkey> hmm restricted extras...
[01:59] <Rondo> hey does anybody know of a recent guide on rt and jack?
[01:59] <Rondo> ! rt
[01:59] <rbunny> celroc: ok, thanks
[01:59] <Rondo> ! jack
[01:59] <Billiard> haha
[01:59] <sebsebseb> rbunny:   Celroc  sireorion   libdvdcss2 or libdvdcss3  install one of those into Ubuntu,  or  you can get one of the few distros that have support for commercial DVD's built in, for example Linux Mint, which is based on Ubuntu.  However if you start using that you should  be asking help for it in their channel
[01:59] <Darkedge> uh Where are themes stored? I thought it was .themes but no themes are in there
[01:59] <Rondo> ubottu, I'm disappointed
[01:59] <Darkedge> and BRB
[01:59] <sebsebseb> !mint |  rbunny   Celroc  sireorion
[02:00] <sebsebseb> !mintsupport
[02:00] <DigitalKiwi> lol "either get this package or get a different distro"
[02:00] <Celroc> sebsebseb: Thanks
[02:00] <greezmunkey> wow 29MB, that's the biggest package I've dl'd yet...
[02:01] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: well  you should have seen what  sireorion  put a little while ago, when they thought they coudn't get  commercial DVD support working
[02:01] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: basically said that that sucked and that they would go back to XP
[02:01] <DigitalKiwi> lawl
[02:01] <Celroc> sebsebseb: "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2" brings up an error message about not having a proper installation candidate?
[02:01] <son_of_steel> Hey can you please tell me how i find out wheter or nor my Audio card has a built in MIDI synthiziser or not???
[02:01] <DigitalKiwi> can WMP even play dvds oob?
[02:02] <sebsebseb> !info libdvdcss2
[02:02] <Billiard> Celroc: its not in the repos akaik
[02:02] <sebsebseb> Celroc: yes it's not in the repo
[02:02] <sebsebseb> Celroc: you need to get it from medibuntu for example, but it seems the site won't work or something
[02:02] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: yes  it can
[02:02] <Celroc> sebsebseb and Billiard: Ah, thanks. Actually, I don't really need it ATM, though. I just didn't know about the DVD thing with Ubuntu
[02:03] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: WMP can do DVD's in Windows
[02:03] <DigitalKiwi> I think I've played dvds with it before but I thought I recalled having to download stuff :/
[02:03] <arand> Celroc sireorion rbunny: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing%20libdvdcss is what you need to know...
[02:03] <Nightsky> I've noticed Gnome Help is very slow to start up. It takes around 30 seconds to come up after I hit F1, at least the first time I try. Is this just my system, or is everyone's so slow?
[02:03] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: well maybe you had to yeah
[02:03] <kp> help
[02:04] <kp> what do i replace with quiet splah??
[02:04] <usser_> sebsebseb, not out the box it cant
[02:04] <kp> splash*
[02:04] <Billiard> sebsebseb: not in xp without additional software
[02:04] <sebsebseb> usser_:  Billiard  oh ok
[02:04] <MK13> how would i go about enabling master mode on a broadcom 43xx wireless adapter?
[02:05] <Nightsky> what is "master mode"?
[02:05] <DigitalKiwi> so wait ubuntu doesn't even have libdvdcss in official repos? arch has it in extra :/
[02:05] <folding-install> anyone familiar with running stanford's folding@home as a linux service, with multiple cpu cores occupied each with separate work folder?
[02:05] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu | DigitalKiwi
[02:06] <CrypT_> hi
[02:06] <durt> DigitalKiwi, it's more than likely contained in a larger package check packages.ubuntu.com
[02:06] <Celroc> arand: Thanks for the link.
[02:06] <CrypT_> Hi i'm new to IRC can someone direct me to a decent C programming room?
[02:06] <arand> DigitalKiwi: legal issues.
[02:06] <Celroc> arand: I actually didn't need to play movie DVDs at the moment, but if I do, I have bookmarked the link
[02:06] <MK13> Nightsky,means it acts as the access point allowing others to connect to if (not ad-hoc mode)
[02:07] <durt> CrypT_, searchirc.com
[02:07] <CrypT_> durt, ty
[02:07] <DigitalKiwi> arand, sebsebseb, ah
[02:07] <sireorion> no stream found to handle url dvd://1 what is that mean?
[02:07] <DigitalKiwi> hate when distros do that kind of stuff :(
[02:07] <magdato> hello, help please, i have one hp laptop, it has microphone, but the microphone cant run, when i try to use it, i listen one weird sound
[02:08] <greezmunkey> pretty cool, dvd playing in background!
[02:08] <Nightsky> MK13: thanks, I guess my card just defaulted to that
[02:08] <arand> sireorion: have you tried following instructions in link I gave?
[02:08] <MK13> Nightsky, why do you say that?
[02:08] <sireorion> arand: yes
[02:09] <EEMPHASISS> Hi, I've got 3 Ubuntu machines here at home.  Rather than downloading updates separately, can I use one of them to serve as a repository cache?  I.e., update the server first, then in the other 2 machines, set the server up as another repository?
[02:09] <sebsebseb> sireorion: I thought you might have disappeard on us
[02:09] <Nightsky> MK13: oh sorry, I guess I was confused, maybe it defaulted to ad hoc mode, but I thought that the router was usually the master
[02:09] <MK13> EEMPHASISS, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtoforge.com%2Flocal_debian_ubuntu_mirror&ei=XSj2SoGoBY_S8AbLhJX0CQ&usg=AFQjCNGGpz7dIQImMk6DwAqKavRJkz6ilw&sig2=_4TezZDjZAOyIp3o5JckqA
[02:09] <DigitalKiwi> !tinyurl
[02:09] <stuartpb> how do i turn off the password prompt when resuming from hibernation?
[02:09] <DigitalKiwi> >:(
[02:10] <joel> Gosh.. Can someoen help me extract a .IMG file ??
[02:10] <sireorion> sebsebseb: what di u mean
[02:10] <sireorion> do*
[02:10] <EEMPHASISS> MK13: thanks for your quick response!
[02:10] <Nightsky> MK13: isn't ad hoc mode for when there is no router?
[02:10] <MK13> Nightsky, the router is usually the master, but i don't have a wireless router yet which is why i need master mode on my wireless card so i can share my wired connection through it
[02:10] <arand> sireorion: then I'm not sure, tried using vlc?
[02:10] <sebsebseb> sireorion: you didn't reply earlier when we were messaging you
[02:10] <Nightsky> MK13: ok thanks
[02:10] <sireorion> sebsebseb: my net died
[02:11] <sireorion> arand: i just come to dvd meny then it dies
[02:11] <sebsebseb> sireorion: oh right maybe you missed something then, but something not that important I guess
[02:11] <MK13> Nightsky, yes, but most devices that aren't computers (PS3) don't recognize/can't connect to computer ad-hoc networks
[02:11] <folding-install> someone familiar with running stanford's folding@home as a linux service, with multiple cpu cores occupied each with separate uniprocessor work folder?
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !logs | sireorion
[02:11] <Nightsky> MK13: sorry I don't know but thanks for explaining.
[02:12] <sebsebseb> sireorion: you need to install the program
[02:12] <MK13> Nightsky, no prob XD
[02:12] <kazuo> Hi. What package have the kernel and kernel modules (alsa drivers)?
[02:12] <MK13> Nightsky,i think i found my solution anyways
[02:12] <sireorion> why its so hard to just see a movie?!?!?!??!?!
[02:12] <IdleOne> folding-install: check in #boinc
[02:12] <Nightsky> cool
[02:12] <frustrated> are there any Ubuntu/Linux tools to test hardware? ...to determine if there are hardware problems?  I'm not sure where to start?
[02:12] <sebsebseb> sireorion: legal reasons  is why there isn't commercial DVD support by default in Ubuntu
[02:12] <MK13> EEMPHASISS, your welcome
[02:12] <folding-install> someone familiar with running stanford's folding@home as a linux service, with multiple cpu cores occupied each with separate uniprocessor work folder? tried finstall perchance?
[02:13] <Celroc> arand: Hey, I wanted to say that I'm sorry to have bothered you about DVDs. It was just surprising to me to hear about needing to install packages to play them.
[02:13] <bazhang> sireorion, its not
[02:13] <stuartpb> Hello, how do i turn off the password prompt when resuming from hibernation?
[02:13] <arand> sireorion: since DVDs are encrypted with DRM.
[02:13] <bazhang> sireorion, what version of ubuntu you using
[02:13] <sebsebseb> bazhang: he just needs to install libdvdcss2 or libdvdcss3
[02:14] <thiebaude> yep
[02:14] <bazhang> sireorion, open a browser
[02:14] <frustrated> ...how can one test for video/graphics hardware problems?
[02:14] <xfire8> update kernel version can fix restart issue like this ?http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2618/senzatitolo1copiaee3.jpg ?
[02:14] <folding-install> IdleOne: #boinc on this server?
[02:14] <arand> sebsebseb: I think that's already ben done
[02:14] <IdleOne> folding-install: yup
[02:14] <Nightsky> sireorion: I tried "super OS" once, and I think "mint" come with the DVD stuff pre-installed, but it isn't to hard to install it. Videolan has it for example: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
[02:14] <sebsebseb> sireorion: Have you actasuly installed the program that we told you to install?
[02:14] <folding-install> IdleOne: ok, what's their topic?
[02:15] <IdleOne> folding-install: it's 6 lines long. /join #boinc and read :)
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Celroc: nothing to be sorry about, your learning about Ubuntu
[02:15] <folding-install> IdleOne: thanks for the pointer
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Celroc: finding out about  the lack of commercial DVD support,  can be part of that
[02:16] <Celroc> sebsebseb: I know, but I wasn't really asking for help, I just didn't know about the DVD thing
[02:16] <xfire8> update kernel version can fix restart issue like this ?http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2618/senzatitolo1copiaee3.jpg ?
[02:16] <sebsebseb> Celroc: doesn't matter, it's fine
[02:16]  * thiebaude has no problems play dvd movies on ubuntu
[02:16] <arand> sireorion: and ran the command given by johanbr in #ubuntu-se?
[02:16] <thiebaude> playing
[02:16] <lecsar> whats the karmic-proposed repository? whats in it? i see that its not in the default sources.list, is it like testing?
[02:16] <caseyweederman> digitalstimulus: Hey! I'm a step closer to figuring it out. It runs on usb1.1, it was usb_modeswitch that was messing it up. Anyways, thanks for your help.
[02:16] <be200fx> hello.  can I ask ubuntustudio questions here?
[02:16] <sebsebseb> be200fx: yes
[02:16] <DigitalKiwi> what is codename of next ubuntu?
[02:17] <xfire8> update kernel version can fix restart issue like this ?http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2618/senzatitolo1copiaee3.jpg ?
[02:17] <sireorion> arand: yes
[02:17] <IdleOne> 10.04
[02:17] <sebsebseb> !studio |  be200fx
[02:17] <IdleOne> !10.04
[02:17] <usser_> lecsar, its proposed updates that are still under review, use at your own risk
[02:17]  * Sir_Konrad is back! All systems are go!
[02:17] <DigitalKiwi> ty
[02:17] <lecsar> ahh.. thanks :)
[02:17] <xfire8> update kernel version can fix restart issue like this ?http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2618/senzatitolo1copiaee3.jpg ?
[02:18] <DigitalKiwi> if ubuntu lynx does not come with lynx i will be very disappointed
[02:18] <arand> lecsar: proposedupdates that may be put into regular updates if proven to not cause any regressions and fix the problem they meant to cleanly.
[02:18] <Rondo> hi, I'm having a weird problem google isn't helping with. I have an Ardour session migrated to this laptop from my other PC and the window is stuck in super-size, and I can't seem to reduce it so it all fits onscreen
[02:18] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: Lynx will be in the repo, not pre installed though
[02:18] <DigitalKiwi> fail
[02:18] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: good idea that though,  you could suggest it on brainstorm and maybe they will do it :)
[02:18] <Celroc> Lucid Lynx... nice. I like Karmic Koala name the most, out of the names of currently available editions. Not sure if I like it more or less than Lucid Lynx
[02:18] <kp> k
[02:18] <kp> so anyhelp???
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !brainstorm | DigitalKiwi
[02:19] <Nightsky> isn't  lynx a cli browser?
[02:19] <be200fx> i installed karmic on my laptop. plugged in a US-144, and I see it in lsusb.  now I would like to record and play back guitar.  Is this something that someone here has experience with?
[02:19] <sebsebseb> Nightsky: yes it is
[02:19] <DigitalKiwi> Nightsky: yup
[02:19] <Nightsky> haha
[02:19] <xfire8> update kernel version can fix restart issue like this ?http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2618/senzatitolo1copiaee3.jpg ?
[02:19] <sebsebseb> !lynx |  Nightsky
[02:19] <stuartpb> Hello, how do i turn off the password prompt when resuming from hibernation?
[02:19] <kp> what do i replace
[02:19] <kp> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" with
[02:19] <Rondo> once I have used L-Alt to drag the window, it now opens the window menu when I try to click on the resize-function on the window border
[02:19] <xfire8> update kernel version can fix restart issue like this ?http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2618/senzatitolo1copiaee3.jpg ?
[02:19] <xfire8> update kernel version can fix restart issue like this ?http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2618/senzatitolo1copiaee3.jpg ?
[02:19] <xfire8> update kernel version can fix restart issue like this ?http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2618/senzatitolo1copiaee3.jpg ?
[02:19] <FloodBot3> xfire8: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:19] <EEMPHASISS> MK13: that was a good HowTo for larger office setups - but a full mirror is 25GB: I get 2GB/month.  I wondered if I could share what the first machine downloaded (where do downloads go to before expansion/installation?), but anything extra could come from externals.
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Nightsky: hmm it didn't mention lynx
[02:20] <Rondo> is this an ardour bug? because I've never seen this behavior before
[02:20] <xfire8> hey no one can help >?
[02:20] <bastid_raZor> xfire8: havne't you been told multiple times this is not an Ubuntu issue and has to do with your BIOS?
[02:20] <usser_> EEMPHASISS, /var/cache/apt
[02:21] <xfire8> i do everything with my bios ! not possible
[02:21] <kazuo> Hi. What package have the kernel and kernel modules (alsa drivers)?
[02:21] <td123> when is alpha 1 10.04 coming out?
[02:21] <sebsebseb> Nightsky: you didn't need to pm that, and  Links and Lynx are not the same, but both text only browsers yes
[02:21] <lstarnes> td123: likely not for a couple months at least
[02:21] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: that's not true
[02:22] <Celroc> stuartpb: System>Precerences>Screensaver, then un-tick the box that says "Lock screen when screensaver is active."
[02:22] <sebsebseb> td123: You can  Google for the release scheduled for 10.04
[02:22] <IdleOne> td123: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[02:22] <SetiAmon> has the sound issues been fixed yet?
[02:22] <sebsebseb> td123: or IdleOne can provide the link :)
[02:22] <EEMPHASISS> usser: ta
[02:22] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: sometimes I get lucky and hit on first try :)
[02:22] <SetiAmon> x-fi was supposed to work out of the box(jaunty worked flawlessly with beta drivers from creative which don't install in karmic)
[02:23] <xfire8> hey someone can call intel for me ? i dont have intel support center in my country , please .
[02:23] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: hit on first try?
[02:23] <stuartpb> Celroc: it is
[02:23] <Nightsky> sebsebseb: why is pm rude or something?
[02:23] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: with my google searches
[02:23] <Celroc> stuartpb: Oh....
[02:23] <bazhang> xfire8, that is offtopic for here
[02:23] <sebsebseb> Nightsky: I would rather that people didn't pm  something to me, that they could have just said no problem here in the channel
[02:23] <IdleOne> Nightsky: some people find it rude to pm without asking first
[02:23] <robert__> Hey um if somebody could help me it would be nice, I accidently installed the wrong version of ubuntu on my computer and now i have the right livecd and i want to overwite the old partition but i dont know how
[02:23] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: well I am used to quite a lot of people pm'ing me when doing enough support here
[02:24] <xfire8> hey someone can call intel for me ? i dont have intel support center in my country , please .
[02:24] <bazhang> !ot | xfire8
[02:24] <thiebaude> xfire8, we cant do that
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !pm > Nightsky
[02:24] <td123> xfire8: google
[02:24] <xfire8> what google help me i need support i dont get support in intel forum !
[02:24] <KiRiLoS> robert__, since it's a clean install,just load your livecd,format the partition and re-install.
[02:24] <jMyles> Karmic seems to have introduced shaky support for Atheros wifi?  Didn't work out of the box, but worked after updates.  Now, after today's updates, borked.  Anybody experiencing the same problem?
[02:25] <Celroc> stuartpb: Sorry, not sure how to fix it
[02:25] <xfire8> and not im tomhardware , linuxquestion and all the trash
[02:25] <td123> xfire8: this channel is only for ubuntu
[02:25] <Nightsky> oh ok I didn't know that I thought I was just reducing the stream of things most ppl didn't care about
[02:25] <xfire8> td123 : i need fix problem for ubuntu
[02:25] <robert__> KiRiLoS, how do I go about doing that? it doesn't give me an option to write to that partition during install
[02:25] <thiebaude> xfire8, this is only ubuntu support
[02:25] <xfire8> my ubuntu do restart issues !
[02:25] <xfire8> my ubuntu do restart issues !
[02:25] <FloodBot3> xfire8: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <DigitalKiwi> IdleOne: some people have their head too far up their rear :/
[02:25] <bazhang> xfire8, you have been asked to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic several times. Please do so.
[02:26] <Nightblaze> I need help with sound. I followed this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7627817&postcount=98 but now ALL of my hardware listed in the Sound Preferences is gone. I'm on a Macbook, btw.
[02:26] <IdleOne> DigitalKiwi: the pm "rule" is also to ensure that people don't get wrong or bad advice.
[02:26] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: well it's not really a rule as such, it's a suggestion
[02:26] <Darkedge> How do I change my bootscreen? I downloaded one from GNOME-Look
[02:26] <Darkedge> :)
[02:26] <KiRiLoS> robert__, Load the live cd,then open a terminal and write "gparted" .That app is the partition manager,from there you can choose the settings you want
[02:26] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: sometimes it's better to do stuff with people in pm, than in here :)
[02:26] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: agreed
[02:26] <KiRiLoS> !gparted | robert__
[02:26] <Nightsky> ok I get it, thanks
[02:26] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: support I mean, not just off topic
[02:27] <robert__> I had gparted open but the partition wouldn't remove it said something about unmounting all partitions over 5 or something
[02:27] <DigitalKiwi> IdleOne: no offense meant to the people who do know their stuff, but I see so much wrong information even in channel it's not funny, that's why I'm here actually, to try and combat it when/if I can :(
[02:27] <robert__> please unmount all logical partitions over 5
[02:27] <jMyles> Anybody else have no wireless with an Atheros chipset after today's updates to Karmic?
[02:28] <Darkedge> Guys?
[02:28] <KiRiLoS> robert__, from what i understand you had too many partitions.
[02:28] <SetiAmon> has anyone here with a X-fi(xtreme music in particular) got sound to work right in KARMIC?
[02:28] <robert__> ive only got vista and ubuntu, i just partitioned it today once thats it
[02:28] <Jester05> hey guys, i have a question for you.. when i use cheese ( a web cam viewing, picture/video taking app) my camera works fine no prob but.. when i try to use it w/ skype i just get a we're green screen w/ some noise on it.. I believe this is due to skype trying to use a different driver with my camera, anyone have any ideas?
[02:29] <pochi> jMyles: yes, but there might be a fix for you
[02:29] <IdleOne> DigitalKiwi: that is why we are all here. help and get help. nobody knows everything
[02:29] <KiRiLoS> robert__, then u did something wrong,what partitions do u want for ubuntu?After all if you just want ubuntu install and you dont have any special requests you can choose use entiry disk when installing ubuntu and then just choose the already existing partition.
[02:29] <fcuk112> robert__: i have a x-fi fatal1ty pro, it works ok although the max volume is limited.
[02:29] <sebsebseb> robert__: be on the Live CD   system > adminisrration > partition editor
[02:29] <_ULNX64_> jmyles yes
[02:29] <sebsebseb> robert__: and delete the partitions you want to
[02:30] <sebsebseb> sheep: why the name change to that?
[02:30] <arand> Jester05: Try (re)installing different versions of skype?
[02:30] <fcuk112> SetiAmon: ^^ my last message should be to you
[02:30] <Ruge> Hi folks, anyone know how to format a drive in NTFS using gParted?
[02:30] <Jester05> arand, I have.. :-\
[02:30] <jMyles> pochi, _ULNX64: can I just revert to an older version of the offending package for now?  Do you know which one it was?  Is there a bug report on this?  Thanks so much.  :-)
[02:30] <Jester05> maybe try the beta?
[02:30] <sebsebseb> Ruge: a drive for what?
[02:30] <sheep> sebsebseb: I need to do something that requires my main nick on a second connection
[02:30] <Jester05> i tried current and an older version.. this webcam is 6-7 yrs old
[02:30] <Ruge> sebsebseb: I have a spare HDD i wish to format to NTFS so that both Ubuntu and WinXP can read it.
[02:31] <sebsebseb> sheep: oh ok
[02:31] <Nightsky> Speaking of help, how long does it take you all for gnome help to come up the first time you hit F1 in nautilus?
[02:31] <be200fx> shouldn't I see the us-144 audio interface in qjackctl's connect window?
[02:31] <pochi> jMyles: this worked for me: edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf and comment out the line that says "blacklist ath5k", then reboot
[02:31] <Voss> jester, does it use usb?
[02:31] <jMyles> pochi, _ULNX64: I don't mind using madwifi or some other zany solution, BUT this is for a friend who doesn't want to have to compile from source or anything - a total newbie.  Not a very soft introduction to Ubuntu I'm afraid.  :-\
[02:31] <Jester05> Voss, yes it does
[02:31] <SetiAmon> Ah Fcuk112 interesting,I get audio out of the box but it is filled with static,distortions, you have flawless(no static/echo's etc or other distortions)?
[02:31] <Nightblaze> I need help with sound. I followed this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7627817&postcount=98 but now ALL of my hardware listed in the Sound Preferences is gone. I'm on a Macbook, btw.
[02:31] <_ULNX64_> i new from mandriva
[02:31] <scunizi> Ruge: format it ext3 and then load the ext3 driver in windows
[02:31] <sebsebseb> Ruge: Ubuntu can  read and write to your Windows NTFS  partition no problem as long as  Windows is shut down properly.   Ubuntu has been able to do that kind of stuff since  the  7.10 version  October 2007
[02:31] <Nightsky> Cuz it takes > 30 seconds for me
[02:31] <sebsebseb> Ruge: also I would recommend not sharing your Linux partitions with Windows
[02:31] <Ruge> sebsebseb: for some reason NTFS in gParted is greyed out
[02:32] <IdleOne> Nightsky: took about 20 secs here
[02:32] <sebsebseb> Ruge: and that driver that was mentioned by scunizi  does not always work properly
[02:32] <fcuk112> SetiAmon: i am using 2.1 speakers, u?
[02:32] <Ruge> sebsebseb: oh right, it was going to be a drive for my music, movies etc.
[02:32] <Nightsky> IdleOne: thanks
[02:32] <jMyles> pochi: There was no ath5k, only ath_pci
[02:32] <_ULNX64_> catch 22, and you would have to track down all the depends manually
[02:32] <scunizi> sebsebseb: Ruge there's a couple of different ones.. you mileage may vary but I've never had an issue
[02:32] <jMyles> pochi: Do you know which packaged caused the bork?
[02:32] <SetiAmon> Headphones
[02:33] <Ruge> sebsebseb: ahh right, hmm well...  Too bad about yelp.
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Ruge: oh your doing Ubuntu in a vm
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Ruge: I suggest you put it on for real, and do most of your computer stuff in it :)
[02:33] <Ruge> sebsebseb: im doing XP in a VM
[02:33] <KiRiLoS> Nightblaze, i suggest you follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192296
[02:33] <Ruge> haha whoops i emant
[02:33] <pochi> jMyles: not sure what it was, but it seems to have been a conflict between the old mad dirvers and the new ath5k drivers
[02:33] <Ruge> XP is running IN a vbox :)
[02:33] <fcuk112> SetiAmon: have you got it plugged into the right port?  Try setting it to stereo and try plugging into the 2nd port from the top.
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Ruge: Well there is way to share your virtual  hard disk   with Ubuntu
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Ruge: #vbox  can help with stuff like that,  I am not exaclty sure how to do it, plus they have a good manual on the site for vbox
[02:34] <pochi> jMyles: take a look at ubuntu bug #315056
[02:34] <_ULNX64_> it happend to me too, switched back to 9.04, goes to show ya, just becouse theres a 6 month release cycle dont mean it needed
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Ruge: and yes that's a good way to do it,  Ubuntu as host,  XP as guest
[02:34] <Ruge> ahhh right
[02:34] <jMyles> pochi: Commenting out the blacklist does not work - and there is no ath5k, only ath_pci
[02:34] <SetiAmon> yeah
[02:35] <Ruge> btw, ext4 is the best atm? better than ext3/2?
[02:35] <arand> Jester05: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=357971 _might_ be of interest...
[02:35] <SetiAmon> fcuk112 i did a clean install and the headphones were never unplugged
[02:35] <sebsebseb> _ULNX64_: Newer is not always better!  in the case of Ubuntu it depends on the user, but also hardware
[02:35] <scunizi> Ruge: sebsebseb you can also share a dirctory in ubuntu with a vbox windows guest
[02:35] <Jester05> alright thanks arand
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Ruge: uhmm
[02:35] <_ULNX64_> i agree
[02:35] <pochi> jMyles: maybe you need to blacklist ath5k then? :)
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Ruge: Ext4 is maybe a tiny bit dodgy still even though it's the default for 9.10
[02:35] <fcuk112> SetiAmon: strange, dunno sorry.
[02:35] <jMyles> pochi: hahaha
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Ruge: I woudn't rely on it just yet for loads and loads of data
[02:35] <Ruge> sebsebseb: ill stick to Ext3 then
[02:36] <sebsebseb> Ruge: for your data partition sure
[02:36] <Ruge> cool, cheers
[02:36] <sebsebseb> Ruge: for a Ubuntu install Ext4 :)
[02:36] <durt> Ruge, it's stable now, for everything but absolute 100% production
[02:36] <cellofellow> how do I see the futon interface for my instance of desktop-couch? There used to be a ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html file but that's gone.
[02:36] <jMyles> pochi: It was working this morning.  It failed out of the box, so I plugged it in to a wired connection, and got all the karmic updates.  Then it worked fine.  Now, today, after updating a few more packages, boom.
[02:36] <Ruge> Well, my Ubuntu drive is Ext4
[02:36] <pochi> jMyles: but after upgrading today, that file contained "blacklist ath5k" for me. didn't have anything like that before, so I don't know why you also doesn't have it
[02:36] <Ruge> Ill just take a punt on Ext4 :)
[02:36] <sebsebseb> Ruge: it's also in a vm,  I hope you put it on your computer for real soon with real partitions :)
[02:37] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Ruge
[02:37] <Ruge> SebSebSeb: Ubuntu is my primary OS
[02:37] <pochi> jMyles: if you do lsmod | grep ath, does it list anything?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> Ruge: oh yeah  you said, but uh nevermind
[02:37] <Ruge> SebSebSeb: I am just making a drive that XP (in vBox) can communicate with it, nothing major
[02:37] <Ruge> Im learning to do all my work on Ubuntu, slowly :P
[02:37] <Ruge> Ive been using Windows since i was a little one
[02:38] <jMyles> pochi: yep, several entries, mostly referring to ath5k
[02:38] <pochi> jMyles: hm, that sounds like it should be fine
[02:38] <jMyles> How can I find out what the most recently updated packages are?
[02:38] <pochi> jMyles: does ifconfig list the wireless device?
[02:38] <sebsebseb> Ruge: ok
[02:38] <krackpot> Does turning the visual effects from "extra" to "normal" disable compiz?
[02:38] <Blue1> anyone familiar with "songbird?"
[02:38] <soreau> krackpot: no
[02:38] <Ruge> Sebsebseb: thanks for your help :)
[02:38] <Nightblaze> I need help with sound. I followed this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7627817&postcount=98 but now ALL of my hardware listed in the Sound Preferences is gone. I'm on a Macbook, btw.
[02:38] <UBlondie> My laptop easily gets exceedingly hot (to the point of shutting off if I don't keep it off the table) ...is this normal?  Is there any way of doing something about it?
[02:39] <soreau> krackpot: Anything other than None, and compiz will be enabled
[02:39] <krackpot> soreau: thanks!
[02:39] <sebsebseb> jMyles: Why do you want to know,  does it really matter even?  Ubuntu only does security updates from it's default repos
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Ruge: ok no problem
[02:39] <SetiAmon> i'm trying something right now,it says to change default sample rate from 44 to 48 in pulse.conf. it says "; default-sample-rate = 44100" should I put "48100" there instead?I am not knowledgable of this can anyone help me
[02:39] <kp> FUCKTARDS NEVER HELPED
[02:39] <sebsebseb> hmm at some people
[02:39] <cellofellow> SetiAmon: 48000
[02:39] <Doorman352> UBlondie: try this link... is this what you want? http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9700201-1.html
[02:40] <_ULNX64_> ublondie where is the fan located?
[02:40] <cellofellow> SetiAmon: DVDs are 48000, CDs are 44100
[02:40] <ccfontes> ohayo
[02:40] <Nuc134rB0t_> hello everyone :)
[02:40] <jMyles> pochi: Oh yeah.  Sure does.  but if I unclick "enable wireless" in the NM, then it will be grayed out and I'll be unable to reclick it.
[02:40] <SetiAmon> so I guess I'll log out and see if that changed anything guys brb
[02:40] <UBlondie> _ULNX64_, back left of the computer ....HP Pavilion laption
[02:41] <_ULNX64_> out the side or under
[02:41] <jMyles> sebsebseb: Well a package update today seems to have borked a friend's wireless.  Is there a way to list packages in order of update?  I think I've done it before, I just can't remember.
[02:41] <pochi> jMyles: are you able to do: ifconfig <wireless-device> up?
[02:41] <Celroc> Is the guy named stuartpb still in the room, perhaps with a different name?
[02:41] <UBlondie> Doorman352, thanks ...but I travel constantly and can't carry something like that around.
[02:42] <Nightblaze> okay, do I need to ask my question a fourth time or is everyone here clueless? =/
[02:42] <UBlondie> _ULNX64_,  oops ...HP Pavilion Laptop I meant to say ...
[02:42] <_ULNX64_> is it new?
[02:42] <UBlondie> a couple of years old ...maybe 2 and a half
[02:42] <jMyles> pochi: no response.
[02:42] <_ULNX64_> when did it start this?
[02:42] <ccfontes> Nightblaze: what is your question? (problably im clueless as well)
[02:42] <Nightblaze> I need help with sound. I followed this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7627817&postcount=98 but now ALL of my hardware listed in the Sound Preferences is gone. I'm on a Macbook, btw.
[02:42] <Doorman352> I resemble that
[02:43] <pochi> jMyles: are you typing that into a terminal?
[02:43] <UBlondie> _ULNX64_, it's not necessarily Ubuntu related, but it has definitely been worse since installing Ubuntu ...
[02:43] <jMyles> pochi: of course. :-)
[02:43] <pochi> hm
[02:43] <rhorse> does anyone know of an irssi channel?
[02:43] <oorah> why does the last sip of beer taste funny?
[02:43] <UBlondie> _ULNX64_,  has alwasy done it with Ubuntu
[02:43] <durt> rhorse, ircsearch.com
[02:43] <bazhang> !ot | oorah
[02:43] <jMyles> Nightblaze:  We're not clueless, we just don't know the answer to your specific question right now.  Keep searching, asking, prying - you'll get there.
[02:43] <Doorman352> probably due the cigarette butts
[02:43] <_ULNX64_> do you leave it on, with the lid closed?
[02:43] <pochi> jMyles: well, ath5k is supposed to be the new drivers for atheros, while the old (for 9.04) was madwifi I think
[02:43] <oorah> ok i'll ask there
[02:43] <SetiAmon> To inform everyone,no that did not fix my sound.still filled with static
[02:44] <rhorse> thx, durt, i'll try
[02:44] <_ULNX64_> it vents via keyboard
[02:44] <TDGW> howdy, another problem
[02:44] <Nightblaze> k, thx jMyles, I guess i'll just snoop around with commands and hope I don't screw everything up, lol =P
[02:44] <UBlondie> _ULNX64_, no ...this is just while I'm using it ...I tend to use it a lot  ...watching movies or doing web development ...or photo/image stuff...
[02:44] <pochi> jMyles: my best guess would be that you comment out the "blacklist ath_pci" and add "blacklist ath5k"
[02:44] <ccfontes> Nightblaze: sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound probably this removed your hardware drivers for sound hehe.. so it did what was supposed to do
[02:44] <Celroc> Thanks for all your help :-). Guess I'm going to log out for now. Bye all, have a good night
[02:44] <_ULNX64_> has the fan stopped spinning?