[04:46] <darkstar999> speaking of audio, my girlfriends netbook is running Remix and when the sound is muted it makes a horrible buzzing sound
[04:46] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> when i try to log in, ubuntu just kicks me back to the login page. any help?
[04:46] <blenderpc4> Mike - no...banshee, gtkpod, amarok all give static
[04:47] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: make sure you have the right "session" chosen in the login screen
[04:47] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: does it come up "wrong password"
[04:47] <ae86-drifter> hehe
[04:47] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> no, no error. just kicks me back to the login
[04:47] <ae86-drifter> oh ok
[04:47] <carpediem> blenderpc4: try killall pulseaudio, then see if sound doesn't get better
[04:47] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> the password is right :P
[04:48] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: the only one that works is the failsafes
[04:48] <blenderpc4> Its not staticy music...its just static
[04:48] <SoftwareExplorer> Is there a way to turn of where pidgin tells you every time someone leaves or enters, maybe for a channel? There's more leave/enter notices then actual chat
[04:49] <carpediem> SoftwareExplorer: yes, its in the options somewhere
[04:49] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Yes, its a plugin
[04:49] <blenderpc4> so killall is a terminal cmnd?
[04:49] <lstarnes> blenderpc4: yes
[04:49] <carpediem> blenderpc4: yes
[04:49] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: Have you tried logging in as root instead?
[04:49] <blenderpc4> I'll give it a shot.  Thanks
[04:49] <Satz> blenderpc4: just a tip. if you are curious about a command, just type man in front of it in a shell
[04:50] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Its the Join/Part Hiding Plugin, v2.6.1
[04:50] <Satz> tells you about the cmd and tells you if u have it
[04:50] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ae86-drifter: give me a sec to enable it
[04:50] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Where can I get it/ what is it called?
[04:50] <blenderpc4> thanks satz...very helpful.
[04:50] <carpediem> ae86-drifter, you can't login as root unless you enabled the root password which is TERRIBLE advice in #ubuntu
[04:50] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Go into synaptic and download all the available plugin packs for Pidgin and you'll get it
[04:50] <Madcamper> how do you kill a process in ubuntu if the command "ps" doesnt list the processes running?
[04:50] <Satz> man woman always has a laugh
[04:50] <Satz> ps -ef ?
[04:51] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Thanks, I'll be back in awhile
[04:51] <lstarnes> Madcamper: check ps ax
[04:51] <DaZ> Madcamper: killall
[04:51] <Madcamper> ahh
[04:51] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: got a better idea? i know not to rm -rf / (don't do that btw)
[04:51] <Madcamper> whats the ax stand for?
[04:51] <Satz> man ps
[04:51] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: After you do that, go to Pidgin>Tools>Plugins then check the box next to "Join/Part Hiding"
[04:51] <DaZ> or kill `pidof something` ;f
[04:51] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: yes, let's figure out the root cause.  If the failsafes are working, there's something messed up.  First, I would find out if you can log in as another user (not root)
[04:51] <Madcamper> oh all
[04:52] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> there is only one user
[04:52] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> want me to create another one?
[04:52] <ae86-drifter> carpediem, dont you think its a good idea to just try logging in as root in case there is an issue with the user account??
[04:52] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: yeah, from CLI, sudo adduser test
[04:52] <leaf-sheep> ae86-drifter: Use "sudo -i" instead.
[04:52] <DaZ> it's neithher good nor bad ;f
[04:53] <carpediem> ae86-drifter: not by enabling root logins via pw
[04:53] <carpediem> ae86-drifter: better to add another user account.
[04:53] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ... it asks me for a room number. nice :P
[04:53] <Madcamper> hrm, i cant find firefox process listed, but its frozen
[04:53] <ae86-drifter> it would  be temporarily just for a test, but i agree that your idea is safer.. hehe
[04:53] <Satz> Madcamper: man pkill
[04:53] <Satz> as in pkill firefox
[04:54] <pepper> killall firefox.
[04:54] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ok the new account logged in
[04:54] <Madcamper> kk
[04:54] <Madcamper> thx
[04:54] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: then, there's a few things that could be wrong....
[04:54] <blenderpc4> tried killall pulseaudio and still get only static
[04:54] <laughzilla> softwareexplorer no problem :) enjoy your learning curve :)
[04:54] <ae86-drifter> look at /etc/passwd
[04:54] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> it's a fresh install, if i just deleted the account and made a new one, would that probably fix it?
[04:54] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: one thing I would suggest is "sudo chown myusername:myusername /home/myusername"
[04:55] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> "test is not in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported"
[04:55] <Satz> uh oh!
[04:55] <ae86-drifter> oh no
[04:55] <ae86-drifter> run!
[04:55]  * Satz notices Agent Smith...
[04:55] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: no, from the CLI of your other account
[04:55] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Thanks, it must be working, or people suddenly stopped connecting to the ubuntu channel
[04:55] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> cops are coming, arent they?
[04:56] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: gotcha
[04:56] <sjines> I need help with firefox
[04:56] <Satz> sjines ?
[04:56] <sjines> yes
[04:56] <Satz> how so
[04:56] <carpediem> !ask sjines
[04:56] <carpediem> heh, whoops
[04:56] <Satz> hah
[04:56] <darkstar999> huuurrr hurrrrrr
[04:56] <carpediem> sjnes !ask
[04:56] <carpediem> hmm
[04:56] <sjines> everytime i miniize something it disappears
[04:56] <carpediem> I hate bots
[04:57] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: What that does is hides any join/part messages that are not active users.  For example, if they do not type anything in chat, it will hide the notification that they joined or left
[04:57] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: entered the command, still doing it
[04:57] <Satz> sjines: can you alt-tab to get it back?
[04:57] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: fresh install, do you have anything important in your home dir?
[04:57] <sjines> i havent tried
[04:57] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: just a fresh install
[04:57] <Satz> try
[04:57] <sjines> okay.
[04:58] <Satz> load it up, minimize and alt-tab
[04:58] <blenderpc4> ok...so I tried some music online, and it was static too.  Systemic problem with sound?  any help is appreciated
[04:58] <Satz> blenderpc4 can you hear audio ok in a browser? youtube for ex?
[04:58] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: it had this issue in linux mint, i switched to ubuntu thinking it might go away. it didn't :(
[04:58] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: thats smart
[04:58] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: then I would try "rm /home/myuser/ -R" then "sudo mkdir /home/myuser" then "sudo chown myuser:myuser /home/myuser -R"
[04:59] <sjines> wow.
[04:59] <sjines> thank you!
[04:59] <Satz> np :)
[04:59] <Satz> im a newbie too
[04:59] <sjines> i had no idea!
[04:59] <sjines> in other cool cool tricks?
[04:59] <Satz> windows key + m
[04:59] <carpediem> sjines: sounds like your task bar is missing?  is that so?
[04:59] <Satz> windows key + e
[04:59] <Satz> carpediem, thats what i thought
[05:00] <sjines> wow!
[05:00] <Satz> if u want to prove that sjines make another account and test
[05:00] <blenderpc4> satz - nope all sound is static.
[05:00] <pepper> blenderpc4, try #alsaconfig...
[05:00] <Satz> just for kicks blenderpc4 say u popped in a live cd does the audio work?
[05:01] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: cool, it works now
[05:01] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: run sudoedit /etc/passwd and tell me if your username is listed in the file
[05:01] <carpediem> blenderpc4: do you have an onboard intel sound?
[05:01] <Satz> just wondering if ur audio device is flaky?
[05:01] <sjines> i have no idea about a task bar
[05:01] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: cool, you had some goofed up config file in your user dir, most likely
[05:01] <blenderpc4> I'll have to find a cd...havn't used one in a while lol
[05:01] <Satz> ah
[05:01] <Satz> well it would help you cross-test if it is the os or the device...
[05:01] <carpediem> sjines: when you minimize something, you shoudl have a task bar where you can see it, like the bottom in Windows.
[05:02] <pepper> blenderpc4, try to rebuild your sound driver.. it may work...
[05:02] <Laughing_God> How do i open Advanced Desktop Effects Settings?
[05:02] <carpediem> Laughing_God: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:02] <blenderpc4> pepper - not sure how to rebuild anything
[05:02] <durt> Laughing_God, do you have a 3d capable card?
[05:02] <carpediem> Laughing_God: that gives you access to EVERYTHING
[05:02] <sjines> it simple it has a trashcan
[05:02] <Laughing_God> yes
[05:02] <sjines> and a pencil in a fra
[05:02] <sjines> meee
[05:02] <sjines> my keys are messed up
[05:03] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: i changed the resolution and it's doing it again :(
[05:03] <durt> Laughing_God, with the restricted drivers enebled (if nvidia)?
[05:03] <pepper> blenderpc4, #alsaconf
[05:03] <jman_> Does anyone here use 64bit firefox and can successfully use the free LogMeIn service?
[05:03] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: run sudoedit /etc/passwd and tell me if your username is listed in the fil
[05:03] <SoftwareExplorer> Laughing_God: Sorry I got you mixed up with another username, so thats why my previous answer got out of order
[05:03] <webbb82> ok i want to disable ask for password upon waking up the computer what config file do i do this in i went there yesterday and it had all the config options for apps desktop/ everything what is this file
[05:03] <TheRealmezquital> blenderpc4, what is the output of cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:03] <carpediem> sjines: right click on it, choose Add To Panel, and choose Window List
[05:03]  * Laughing_God now confuse and blur
[05:03]  * Laughing_God now confuse and blur
[05:03]  * Laughing_God dies
[05:04] <carpediem> sjines: when I say right click on it, I mean the panel, not the trash can
[05:04] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ae86-drifter: it's in there
[05:04] <Satz> webbb82, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620769
[05:04] <ae86-drifter> paste the line
[05:04] <defcon> what is the channel for backtrack
[05:04] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ... i changed the resolution back and it's fixed again
[05:05] <durt> defcon, searchirc.com
[05:05] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: doctor says if it hurts, don't do it.
[05:05] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> nick:x:1000:1000:Nick Carrington,,,:/home/nick:/bin/bash
[05:05] <Satz> Nicky!!!
[05:05] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: can't see jack with the default resolution though :(
[05:05] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> oh well, i'll live
[05:05] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: have you enabled the nvidia drivers, or are you still on the crap OSS drivers?
[05:05] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: sorry i dont know!! :P
[05:06] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo:  nvidia card?
[05:06] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: still on the defaults
[05:06] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: should i try the nvidia drivers?
[05:06] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: do you have an nvidia card?
[05:06] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: yes
[05:06] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: then yes.  Karmic?
[05:06] <Laughing_God> How do i open Advanced Desktop Effects Settings in ubuntu?
[05:07] <defcon> #remote-exploit
[05:07] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> 9.04. not up with the release names so i wouldn't know
[05:07] <blenderpc4> 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel                       HDA Intel at 0xf0700000 irq 22
[05:07] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: the nvidia drivers are the only proprietry software i use, because its much better
[05:07] <carpediem> Laughing_God: as I said already, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:07] <sjines> Hey! Is there something wrong with the OS?
[05:07] <carpediem> blenderpc4: ahh...I think I know your problem....give me a minute, I'll have some direction for you.
[05:07] <sjines> Should I have had access to the thing you are telling me?
[05:07] <webbb82> Satz, thats n ot it the one i was messing with yesterday had a gui interface all i had to do is click on a box to check/uncheck
[05:07] <Bluey> Laughing_God: System/Preferences/Appearance/Visual Effects
[05:07] <durt> Laughing_God, you must have a 3d card _and_ 3d drivers enabled.
[05:07] <blenderpc4> I love this chatroom...so many answers
[05:08] <SoftwareExplorer> Laughing_God: or go to System>Preferences>CompizConfig Settings Manager
[05:08] <ae86-drifter> System/Preferences/Appearance/Visual Effects/ Compiz Settings Manager
[05:08] <Laughing_God> ok
[05:08] <ae86-drifter> and tick every box
[05:08] <Doc_Lappy> can somebody tell me real quick how to start apache2 server
[05:08] <ae86-drifter> lol
[05:08] <carpediem> blenderpc4: do you know, is it a 3 stack or a 5 stack Intel sound.  (are there 3 headphone-style output lines, or 5)?
[05:08] <lstarnes> Doc_Lappy: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start
[05:08] <jman_> Does anyone here use 64bit firefox and can successfully use the free LogMeIn service?
[05:09] <Doc_Lappy> k thans lstarnes
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> Doc_Lappy, or "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[05:09] <Bluey> jman_: 64 bit firefox - never heard of that service
[05:09] <blenderpc4> I'm going to feel stupid, but I only see the one, and the one for mic.
[05:09] <carpediem> blenderpc4: including mic and standard out, always 3 or 5.  so we'll go with 3 stack
[05:10] <Doc_Lappy> oh ZykoticK9 that's the one I usually use but couldn't remember it and in a hurry so didn't want to have to google so thanks
[05:10] <unitheory> anyone else having trouble connecting to AIM with pidgin or just me?
[05:10] <ae86-drifter> just you
[05:10] <Bluey> unitheory: nope
[05:10] <FireCrotch> unitheory: AIM is having a problem with their servers right now, I think
[05:10] <TheRealmezquital> !pidgin
[05:10] <FireCrotch> I've had a couple friends ask me if I just got signed off of AIM, and I did
[05:10] <want_to_learn> hi
[05:10] <paulmops> I wonder if MS is running AIMS servers [sic]
[05:10] <Guest2079> hi
[05:10] <blenderpc4> hi
[05:10] <want_to_learn> i have 2 hardisk with ubuntu as a primary and centos as a secondary
[05:10] <Doc_Lappy> carpediem like your name, maybe I almost thought of changing mine to carpenox
[05:11] <want_to_learn> i tried to mount /etc/sdb1 (centos)
[05:11] <TheRealmezquital> unitheory, you might want to go to the pidgin site and see if they have a fix, i've seen pidging have issues every now and then when yahoo or microsoft updates their servers
[05:11] <ae86-drifter> want_to_learn: write your question in one line
[05:11] <ae86-drifter> pls
[05:11] <Bluey> want_to_learn: you have to mount a device not a directory
[05:11] <want_to_learn> but it prints "can't find /etc/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[05:11] <Laughing_God> When i type this install compizconfig-settings-manager I got this error missing destination file operand after .......
[05:11] <ae86-drifter> /dev/*
[05:11] <Bluey> like sudo mount /dev/sdb1 <mountpointgoeshere>
[05:11] <jman_> Does anyone here use 64bit firefox and can successfully use the free LogMeIn.com service?
[05:12] <want_to_learn> ok i will try
[05:12] <Bluey> jman_: like I said 64 bit ff yes -- never heard of service...
[05:12] <want_to_learn> special device /etc/sdb doesnt exist
[05:12] <carpediem> blenderpc4: this is the way I resolved my static issues with my Intel sound:  http://wiki.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Resolve_Problems_With_HDA-INTEL_Sound_Cards
[05:12] <Satz_AFK> logmein is a website
[05:12] <Satz_AFK> allows remote admin of remote pc
[05:12] <ae86-drifter> mkdir the mount destination
[05:12] <want_to_learn> already
[05:12] <SoftwareExplorer> want_to_learn: /dev/sdb, not /etc
[05:12] <blenderpc4> Thanks carpediem, I'll give that a shot
[05:13] <Guest2079> Oo
[05:13] <jman_> yes so anyone use logmein via firefox 64bit?
[05:14] <jman_> or is it difficult to coinstall 32bit Firefox along side of 64bit?
[05:14] <RPG_Master> Why can't I use my Dell Mini 10's full resolution in UNR?
[05:15] <daya> join #edubuntu
[05:16] <acad> is there a way to apt-get / aptitude a package from universe without adding universe permantly to the sources.list file?
[05:16] <acad> * i realized i can add and then remove it
[05:16] <patrick> hi all
[05:16] <Guest6717> hi all
[05:17] <ae86-drifter> jman_ : http://tinyurl.com/ygmhcme
[05:17] <Guest6717> anyone have Java issues?
[05:17] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can delete all my files in my usb.. i just inserted it my friend's system (XP) and now when i try to delete in my system (ubuntu 9.04).. i am unable to do say saying that it has only read permissions..please help
[05:17] <ae86-drifter> no, my java works fine
[05:17] <carpediem> Guest6717: wow, could you be more specific
[05:17] <jman_> ae86-drifter: still aren't good answers
[05:17] <bastid_raZor> acad: aptitude can do this.. i saw that in the manpage for aptitude. let me find the actual syntax to use.
[05:17] <Guest6717> chmod on the files
[05:17] <Guest6717> sudo, then chmod the files
[05:18] <clau> cenaaaa
[05:18] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: You could do Alt+F2 then put in gksudo nautilus. Then you will have all the powers!
[05:18] <jman_> eh i'll play some more we'll see
[05:19] <carpediem> ae86-drifter:  lol, that's nice, I'll have to remember that.  You get to be a smarta## and helpful at the same time.
[05:19] <ae86-drifter> carpediem: hehe, its nice isn't it
[05:19] <ctmjr> that is not helpful
[05:19] <bastid_raZor> acad: aptitude install packagename/universe   .. you'll need to enable universe before doing so. then disable afterwards
[05:19] <carpediem> haha
[05:19] <ae86-drifter> i know it isnt but i cant resist
[05:19] <SoftwareExplorer> I'm always afraid to open tinyurl links, you don't know what is behind them
[05:19] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; i did that still i am unable to delete
[05:20] <ynk> how can i check which GTK+ version i have?
[05:20] <clau> ubuntu is power
[05:20] <acad> bastid_raZor thanks man! i'll look at that and see if it does what i want
[05:20] <carpediem> SoftwareExplorer: I'm always afraid to open them on Windows....in Linux I don't sweat the little things
[05:20] <clau> pots
[05:20] <jbuncher> Can anyone point me to a solution for cross-platform encryption?  I want to be able to encrypt a folder on a fat32 flash drive that I can decrypt in windows without admin rights, that should also be decryptable in ubuntu
[05:20] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: Hmm, that usually does the trick for me
[05:21] <bastid_raZor> acad: that is actually on page 1 of man aptitude
[05:21] <acad> jbuncher: truecrypt- although it doesn't do folders-it creates an image and that images shows up as a drive letter.
[05:21] <clau> bye boys
[05:21] <SoftwareExplorer> carpediem: Not that it's terrifying, just that I consider who it's from first
[05:21] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; i tried the chmod 777 * but still i can't change the permissions with su powers
[05:21] <MikeChelen> jbuncher: check out encfs for linux and freeotfe for windows, truecrypt is good too
[05:22] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: do you know where the usb is mounted?
[05:22] <acad> bastid_raZor: i'm not sure this does what i need actually. i didn't see it in the man page i looked at either.. going to take a closer look.
[05:22] <ae86-drifter> ynk: http://tinyurl.com/yh3y8mk
[05:22] <raeldenk> hi everybody
[05:22] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; yup in /media/
[05:22] <jbuncher> MikeChelen, acad :  does truecrypt need to be installed on the windows machine, or can it be run from the usb disk?
[05:22] <zetwale69> hi everybody
[05:22] <raeldenk> does hotmail work for you ?
[05:22] <bastid_raZor> acad: look for /<archive>
[05:22] <zetwale69> I am a newbie to ubuntu
[05:23] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: how si the media formatted?
[05:23] <acad> jbuncher: it can be run from a usb flash drive...
[05:23] <zetwale69> have not used it much
[05:23] <Bluey> zetwale69: how can we help?
[05:23] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; in the sense....
[05:23] <zetwale69> i have a question about using applications from ubuntu server console
[05:23] <zetwale69> i would like to launch gui apps without having to start kde or gnome. Is this possible?
[05:23] <stebalien> ynk:  run 'aptitude show libgtk2.0-0'
[05:24] <acad> bastid_raZor: i spotted it. thanks.
[05:24] <biovore> zetwale69: sorta..  need to start X still..
[05:24] <biovore> zetwale69: unless you X forward.
[05:24] <Bluey> zetwale69: not thinking of a whay...
[05:24] <ynk> stebalien, thank you.
[05:24] <thedude42> zetwale69, well, you kinda need something handling X in order to launch gui apps.... you can use a different window manager if you prefer
[05:24] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: I thing if you do df -h it will tell you where it is mounted exactly, then you could cd to it and us rm to delete specific files
[05:25] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: how is the USB media formatted?
[05:25] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: ext3? fat32? fat16? ntfs? what?
[05:25] <jbuncher> acad, how can I run truecrypt from the flashdrive without it being installed on the main system?
[05:25] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: like this cd /media/where-the-disk-is-mouted then sudo rm <thefileIwanttogetridof>
[05:26] <ae86-drifter> or is it fat12?
[05:26] <zetwale69> im ok to use X but do not want to launch gnome or kde
[05:26] <Bluey> ae86-drifter: ahh a floppy....
[05:26] <zetwale69> I mean, when apps are created for Linux, are they bound to a specific window manager or can they just all run from X
[05:26] <ae86-drifter> hehe
[05:26] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; well i dont know about that how can i know
[05:26] <acad> jbuncher: do you mean from ubuntu/GNU/Linux or ms windows? I know from MS Windows you can do it without it being installed. from gnu/linux i'm pretty sure you can do it via the command line somehow. i'm not really too sure of the details though.
[05:26] <Bluey> zetwale69: off the top of my head, it would be like trying to run a windows gui app without windows
[05:27] <beta_> I have a question if anyone is available to help
[05:27] <zetwale69> that's it. Can we do that?
[05:27] <Bluey> beta_: shoot!
[05:27] <MikeChelen> zetwale69: some only require x, while others use GTK or QT
[05:27] <Bluey> zetwale69: not to my knowledge
[05:27] <ae86-drifter> you will still need the gnome libraries installed or whatever
[05:27] <ae86-drifter> whichever it uses
[05:27] <jbuncher> acad, ok, thanks, I'll look around the docs
[05:27] <beta_> I have a Belkin wireless G plus MIMO card that will not connect..
[05:27] <zetwale69> oh, so I would need GTK or QT or both running, right?
[05:27] <acad> jbuncher: http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=truecrypt-portable
[05:27] <ae86-drifter> nah just installed
[05:27] <[nig]aer0nz> sup #ubuntu, i use FEDORA, halp pls.
[05:28] <vox> zetwale69: X is the back-end of the gui. gnome/kde/fluxbox/etc are the front end. you cant run a gui app without a front-end in the same way you cant drive a car without wheels
[05:28] <beta_> it responds with no ndiswrapper.. which was a surprise.. but will not connect.
[05:28] <Bluey> I am not the wireless guy...
[05:28] <jbuncher> acad, thanks!
[05:28] <ZykoticK9> zetwale69, FYI it is "generally" not a good idea to have a GUI on a server OS, you did say you're using "server" didn't you?
[05:28] <ae86-drifter> i know wireless
[05:28] <zetwale69> got it! thanks for that.
[05:28] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok, SoftwareExplorer; check this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292070/
[05:28] <beta_> any help would be greatly appreciated
[05:28] <vox> ZykoticK9: err. why is it not a good idea?
[05:28] <[nig]aer0nz> GUISE
[05:28] <[nig]aer0nz> HOW DO I GET BETTER FPS
[05:28] <[nig]aer0nz> <- ATIFAG
[05:28] <FloodBot1> [nig]aer0nz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <[nig]aer0nz> wat
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> beta_ did you type iwconfig?
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> what does it say?
[05:29] <SoftwareExplorer> ZykoticK9: Out of curiosity, why? (Because I do that)
[05:29] <zetwale69> what I want to do is this: I have installed a linux server, do not want to run a gui but would like users to access a GUI application remotely
[05:29] <beta_> No.. i didnt
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> does it say wlan0 enabled or similair?
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> do it
[05:29] <beta_> yes
[05:29] <beta_> it even shows networks..
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> whats the interface name?
[05:29] <Bluey> zetwale69: hmm
[05:29] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: mount | grep \/media
[05:29] <stebalien> zetwale69:  You need the QT/GTK libraries to run apps made to use them. You never need gnome/KDE/XFCE etc; these are just collections of programs. The window manager is only needed if you want to be able to move your windows around and close them.
[05:29] <zetwale69> I do not need the users to access the whole desktop, just that app, or several apps
[05:29] <beta_> not sure what you mean..
[05:30] <ae86-drifter> paste the return from iwconfig
[05:30] <beta_> I will.. brb
[05:30] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; ok i did it in the terminal...
[05:30] <ZykoticK9> vox, you "can" do it but generally the less software you have running on a "server" the better.  Adding a GUI introduces a lot of possible security holes, unnessecarily.  You of course can do it, I mean Solaris runs with a GUI now.  But, "serious" servers don't come with GUIs!
[05:30] <vox> zetwale69: it doesnt/cant/wont work that way
[05:30] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: you have it mounted as read only-why didn't I think of that?!!
[05:31] <beta_> i will have to disconnect and reconnect on the laptop..
[05:31] <wynnerman> how do you mount a NTFS HDD
[05:31] <beta_> brb
[05:31] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; usually it automounts and i do have full permissions...but this time i dont know how it got changed
[05:31] <Bluey> if you try gedit at the terminal prompt it complains about gtk
[05:31] <Bluey> i.e. ctrl+alt+f1
[05:31] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: and what did it tell you?
[05:31] <jbuncher> acad, damn, looks like truecrypt needs to be installed on the system in order for the driver to load
[05:31] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; http://paste.ubuntu.com/292072/
[05:32] <acad> jbuncher: on ms windows?
[05:32] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: I'm not real mount savvy, maybe someone else can help
[05:32] <zetwale69> ok. So if I have an application server running on ubuntu, and want remote users to access an application, then I need to feed them a whole desktop
[05:32] <jbuncher> acad, doesn't seem like there's any way around being a non-admin on a machine that doesn't have truecrypt installed.  yeah, windows.
[05:32] <bastid_raZor> !ntfs | wynnerman
[05:32] <acad> jbuncher: i know back in the day you could run truecrypt without being an admin- but that was in ms window 9x
[05:32] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; okk thx for offering me your help
[05:32] <jbuncher> acad, http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=truecrypt-portable
[05:32] <acad> jbuncher: of course 9x didn't have "admin" really
[05:32] <stebalien> zetwale69:  you can use xinit (from the commandline) to run just a bare bones X server with a few apps. Without a window manager, your users will not be able to switch between windows.
[05:32] <ae86-drifter> hehe "mount savvy"
[05:32] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 $$ sudo fsck.vfat -yf /dev/sdb1
[05:32] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: Your Welcome :)
[05:33] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: when that completes, remove the USB disk and plug it in again
[05:33] <jbuncher> acad, looks like you can run it without the admin, but an admin needs to have installed it to the system previously.
[05:33] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: errrrr
[05:33] <ynk> i'm trying to install an app called Geany. i found an old version in Synaptic. i decided to download an archive of the newer version from their site and now i'm having some trouble installing it. i have tried "sh ./configure" but i'm always encountering one error or another...
[05:33] <wynnerman> thanks  ubottu
[05:33] <jbuncher> acad, sorry, that link didn't update
[05:33] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo fsck.vfat -yf /dev/sdb1
[05:33] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: sorry, fat fingers
[05:33] <ZykoticK9> zetwale69, see ssh and X forwarding - they could log into terminal (with X-forwarding) then start GUI apps runing on your computer and displayed on their's (no KDG/GNOME required)
[05:33] <acad> jbuncher: how things have changed.. i'm not really surprised though. it is a driver after all.
[05:33] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; hehe
[05:33] <PerryArmstrong> :)
[05:34] <jbuncher> acad, yeah, just sucks.
[05:34] <acad> jbuncher: well virtual driver anyway
[05:34] <acad> jbuncher: what are you trying to do?
[05:34] <zetwale69> yes that is what I would like
[05:34] <zetwale69> use X forwarding or something and have them use one or more apps remotely
[05:34] <acad> jbuncher: i'm a hacker at heart and it sounds like it would be more fun to just run linux on these machines :)
[05:34] <zetwale69> I will have to do some more research on this then
[05:35] <MikeChelen> zetwale69: if it on a local network x forwarding is good, for connection across the internet freenx or vnc is better
[05:35] <zetwale69> i was actually looking at freenx
[05:35] <acad> jbuncher: maybe make yourself a windows themed linux disc for school- or something.
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> zetwale69, see SSH and X-forwarding for further detail (pretty easy to get going).  Hint for clients you might need "ssh -Y your_host_name", good luck.
[05:35] <defcon> #remote-exploit
[05:35] <jbuncher> acad, help out a friend's wife.  She wants to be able to encrypt sensitive patient info on a flash drive so she can use/edit the docs on campus and at home.  At home, she uses ubuntu.  On campus, it's all computer labs where they're locked down, so you can't install anything and you don't have admin rights.
[05:35] <zetwale69> i know that freenx allows a floating window for one app
[05:35] <acad> jbuncher: or whereever you plan to use it
[05:35] <MikeChelen> zetwale69: freenx is one of the best options for remote desktop
[05:35] <mnaines> jbuncher: Here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus-Aero+Improved+?content=113537
[05:36] <m0r0n> My spell check wont work on OO Writer, anyone know how to fix that?
[05:36] <zetwale69> all right, thanks again everybody. this has been very useful
[05:36] <mnaines> acad, PM me for a sec...I can guarantee you'll laugh at this
[05:36] <zetwale69> cheers
[05:36] <MikeChelen> ssh forwarding works best on 100mbit+ lan
[05:36] <acad> jbuncher: ohh. hmm interesting problem. does the employer encryption only work on ms windows?
[05:36] <jbuncher> acad, my friend tried a "two partition" approach, but windows is beyond stupid and doesn't recognize the 2nd partition on flash drives.
[05:36] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; when i try the 1st command it says device is busy
[05:37] <jbuncher> acad, this wouldn't be employer encryption, just personal, so we can choose anything that works, as long as it's accessible from windows with zero admin stuff at all, and on linux as a non-admin (after a linux admin has installed and set up certain things)
[05:37] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: sudo umount -l /dev/sdb1 && sudo fsck.vfat -yf /dev/sdb1
[05:38] <Quasarj> hrm
[05:38] <mneptok> jbuncher: could you just zip the directory and encrypt that?
[05:38] <acad> jbuncher: i'm surprised the employer doesn't mandate the encryption
[05:39] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; isn't working after i did as you said
[05:39] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; i mean i am still unable to delete
[05:39] <acad> jbuncher: it seems like you are probably going to be very very limited in terms of encryption options
[05:39] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: pull the drive fro the USB port. plug it in again. then run that command i gave you.
[05:39] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: ah
[05:39] <jbuncher> acad, they might mandate that it *be* encrypted, but I don't think they mandate the details.  mneptok :  not sure, what would do the encrypting/decrypting in windows without admin rights?  Is there a native solution in linux that would be compatible?
[05:40] <acad> jbuncher: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/7-zip_portable
[05:40] <jbuncher> acad, yeah, that's what it seems.  My poor friend has been trying to figure this out for days.  He's going crazy.
[05:40] <mneptok> jbuncher: GPG encrypts files, but directories are trickier. so archive the dir and encrypt that single file with GPG.
[05:40] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: the disk is being mounted read-only. did you mess with /etc.fstab at all?
[05:40] <mneptok>  /etc/fstab
[05:41] <acad> mneptok: that might work but he needs a portable version of gpg i think then for windows
[05:41] <zahid> need regarding pyNeighborhood in xubuntu
[05:41] <acad> jbuncher: i'm going to bet that 7-zip portable version would work for you.
[05:41] <wynnerman> Is there an easier way to mount a drive
[05:42] <mnaines> I just had this really bad daydream about Linux...It was a nightmare
[05:42] <acad> jbuncher: the only question is how do unzip within gnu/linux without using the command line
[05:42] <n8tuser> jbuncher-> umm, you can run from a livecd,  not installing anything on the machine.... on livecd one can use openoffice but may require a download to the usb...
[05:42] <ae86-drifter> mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[05:42] <PerryArmstrong> tried it out still not working mate: here's what i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292076/
[05:42] <jbuncher> acad, I'm looking at that, though I'm not seeing any obvious encryption.  am I missing something?  mneptok :  I'll look into that, haven't really used gpg before.  Is that something where the friend's wife would have to use a command line?
[05:42] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; tried it out still not working mate: here's what i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292076/
[05:42] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; no i didnt mess with that code
[05:42] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: what was it?
[05:43] <acad> jbuncher: http://www.7-zip.org/ (you have to click the read more link)
[05:43] <glicks> is anyone running ubuntu on a eeepc netbook?
[05:43] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: I dreamed that Microsoft took Ubuntu, made this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus-Aero+Improved+?content=113537 the default theme and called it Windows
[05:43] <n8tuser> glicks-> ive installed it on a friends, hp 1101 netbook
[05:44] <m0r0n> n8tuser: How's the battery consumption?
[05:44] <jbuncher> acad, thanks, missed that 4th bullet
[05:45] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Good thing that the FSF exists, even if i'm not as radical as them, I know they would make a ton of noise if that happend
[05:45] <jbuncher> I'm going to try that out
[05:45] <mnaines> FSF?
[05:45] <glicks> jbuncher, are you john bunch?
[05:45] <n8tuser> m0r0n-> i dont know, i  dont own it, i have to ask my friend
[05:45] <jbuncher> glicks, "John Bunch"?  Nope.
[05:45] <glicks> heh ok jbuncher
[05:45] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Free Software Foundation, the GNU guys, the GPL licence writers
[05:45] <acad> SoftwareExplorer: so true. We need guys like stallman and the fsf as insane as some of their positions.
[05:46] <wynnerman> I saw a youtube vid on how to do it and That looks nothing like it. Hell, I have no idea what i am looking at
[05:46] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Its only a matter of time before MS does something like that, though
[05:46] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; any idea
[05:47] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: they might be to proud to admit they failed to make a good OS
[05:47] <sebsebseb> mnaines: You asked what FSF is?
[05:47] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: And if they do this, they can easily avoid having to admit that
[05:47] <mnaines> sebsebseb: I have never been good at deciphering abbreviations
[05:47] <jbuncher> glicks, who is john bunch?
[05:48] <sebsebseb> mnaines: Free Software Foundation
[05:48] <glicks> jbuncher, heh hes my brother :)
[05:48] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=FSF
[05:48] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: I guess they could sell it, but anyone could make copies that were identical legally, so the free marked would make the disks like a dollar
[05:48] <jbuncher> acad, not get off topic, but they don't seem to be that insane in most of their positions.
[05:48] <jbuncher> glicks, unless your name is Mike, I'm not your brother then :)
[05:48] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: PM me...I can make you laugh
[05:49] <invitingdopeman> weres the weed at?
[05:49] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: uhh, I'm new to IRC , how do I do that?
[05:49] <acad> jbuncher: ohh i'd agree. i think the fsf and stallman both make some very good points regarding non-free software. non-free software is hurting our community.
[05:49] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: my guess is that the filesystem on the device is corrupted. you need to fix it with fsck.
[05:49] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Right click on my name then click IM
[05:49] <glicks> hey does anyone have any disk excryption experience on a netbook? is it still usable or does it crawn to an unusalble rate
[05:49] <glicks> or even just /home encryption
[05:49] <sebsebseb> SoftwareExplorer: you were also off topic, but it was a  slightly interesting one I guess
[05:50] <sebsebseb> !ot > SoftwareExplorer
[05:50] <wynnerman> Is there an easy way to flash your Bios with Ubuntu
[05:50] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; so how do i do that
[05:50] <wynnerman> like mabe a program in synantpic
[05:50] <ae86-drifter> use wine
[05:50] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: close the terminal. unmount the disk. remove it from the computer. plug it back in. open a terminal. then "sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo fsck.vfat -yf /dev/sdb1" (no quotes)
[05:50] <Beastmode> hey guys, is there a option for ubuntu to keep incomplete files like there is in winrar for windows? i usually download about 5-10 rars of a movie to check quality by extractng just those first 5-10 rars then i can tell whether i should waste bandwith or not cause im on a 60gig limit by isp
[05:50] <glicks> wynnerman, i flashed my bios on ubuntu, but with a bootable usb stick
[05:50] <wynnerman> tried and it didnt do anything
[05:50] <acad> jbuncher: the problem i think with excluding non-free software completely is that we never get to the point where gnu/linux is feasible for the masses.
[05:50] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: if you get messages about the device being busy, you have problems.
[05:50] <invitingdopeman> does anybody know how to have 2 hard drives going at once
[05:51] <JabDesign> does Ubuntu support any type of disk encryption for the filesystem (I guess more of a linux question)..
[05:51] <JabDesign> er kernel question
[05:51] <ae86-drifter> invitingdopeman: yes, are they plugged into your motherboard?
[05:51] <mneptok> JabDesign: yes
[05:51] <mneptok> JabDesign: use the alternate install CD
[05:51] <joebodo> -jabdesign should be an option during install to encrypt home dir
[05:51] <Satzo> wynnerman: IMHO, no.
[05:52] <JabDesign> joebodo: on the base CD or this alternate install CD?
[05:52] <vox> invitingdopeman: weed?
[05:52] <invitingdopeman> would i hook it up to the slave drive
[05:52] <panfist> what reasons are there for choosing ubuntu over centos for an internet-facing server?
[05:52] <joebodo> jabdesign base
[05:52] <ae86-drifter> invitingdopeman: yes, if it is an IDE drive
[05:52] <mneptok> panfist: same package management
[05:52] <ae86-drifter> invitingdopeman: sata or IDE?
[05:52] <mneptok> panfist: *sane
[05:52] <glicks> hey is there a channel for ubuntu netbook?
[05:52] <joebodo> jabdesign if you want the entire file system encrypted - it might be alternate - i have not tried that
[05:52] <invitingdopeman> whats an IDE drive
[05:52] <Beastmode> guys any way i can keep incomplete files in archive manager extractions like there is a option in winrar?
[05:52] <panfist> mneptok meaning debs instead of rpms
[05:52] <ynk> "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found! Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix. Alternatively, you may set the environment variables GTK_CFLAGS and GTK_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config." my goodness, what does it mean?
[05:52] <mneptok> panfist: exactly
[05:53] <MikeChelen> JabDesign: regular cd can do home directory encryption, whole disk encryption requires alt install cd
[05:53] <mneptok> panfist: what is the piurpose of the server?
[05:53] <mneptok> -i
[05:53] <sebsebseb> mneptok: Why are Debs apparantly better than RPM's?
[05:53] <Satzo> yes alternate .iso has encrypton option
[05:53] <ae86-drifter> invitingdopeman: did you install the drive into your PC
[05:53] <wynnerman> Because I flashed My bios with Vista with an update for my mobo and now I get the blue screen of death whenever I try to boot Vista
[05:53] <vigo> invitingdopeman: That might be better answered in #hardware.
[05:53] <glicks> is there a netbook remix chat?
[05:53] <mneptok> sebsebseb: circular dependencies are extremely rare with .deb, not true for .rpm
[05:53] <anna-bham> invitingdopeman, OMG, is that a real question?  What's an IDE drive?
[05:54] <sebsebseb> mneptok: What does that mean?
[05:54] <invitingdopeman> no its from another computer
[05:54] <wynnerman> lo fucking l
[05:54] <Satzo> wynnerman: does a live OS work alright?
[05:54] <panfist> mneptok apache, rdbms, python; ssh;
[05:54] <scunizi> wynnerman: #windows might be able to answer that one.. not here though
[05:54] <MikeChelen> invitingdopeman: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Drive_Electronics
[05:54] <joebodo> glicks not that i know of - you should be able to ask your questions here
[05:54] <wynnerman> ya
[05:54] <invitingdopeman> anna-bham im new to this stuff
[05:54] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=IDE
[05:54] <mneptok> panfist: i'd use a .deb based distro for such stuff
[05:54] <wynnerman> I installed Ubuntu hoping I could flash it from here
[05:54] <anna-bham> Um, an ide cable is that big ass one with all the pins, unlike sata
[05:54] <mneptok> sebsebseb: you're a big boy. you know how to Google. :)
[05:54] <Beastmode> so anyone know what im talking about?
[05:54] <FireCrotch> wynnerman: please watch your language, this is a family friendly channel
[05:55] <glicks> well i was just wondering the performance hit of using encryption on a netbook
[05:55] <sebsebseb> wynnerman: Try not to swear in the channel :)
[05:55] <MikeChelen> invitingdopeman: it is one of the standard hardware interface formats, often used by hard disk drives and cd-rom drives
[05:55] <Satzo> Beastmode we do but thats not really an ubuntu ?
[05:55] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=circular+dependencies
[05:55] <panfist> mneptok what about centos vs. ubuntu for a deployment of many workstations
[05:55] <anna-bham> Is "big ass" OK for family friendly stuff?
[05:55] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; i get device is busy
[05:55] <jbuncher> acad, while true, that should only be used as a stop-gap.
[05:55] <mneptok> Beastmode: i do, but i'm appalled people archive formats that are *already compressed*
[05:55] <invitingdopeman> thanks mike
[05:55] <wynnerman> this is coming from a user with their name as FIRE CROTCH
[05:55] <Satzo> mneptok: same.
[05:55] <FireCrotch> anna-bham: if you have to ask, the answer is most likely "no"
[05:55] <wynnerman> grow up
[05:55] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: that disk has very serious filesystem problems, then
[05:55] <ae86-drifter> the standard is SATA now :P
[05:55] <jbuncher> acad, trying to get 7zip to re-password protect the archive once I've opened it.........
[05:55] <acad> bastid_raZor: "sudo aptitude install multisync-tools/universe" doesn't do what i'm looking for.... so it seems. i'm not really sure what it is doing actually.
[05:55] <ae86-drifter> isnt it?
[05:55] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; whats the dolution
[05:55] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; whats the solution
[05:56] <sebsebseb> mneptok: I could Google, but I expect you could also just tell me
[05:56] <Satzo> ...
[05:56] <ae86-drifter> sebsebseb: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=FSF
[05:56] <acad> bastid_raZor: i think it is the enabling that i want it to do...
[05:56] <Beastmode> so anyway i can download lets say 5 rars of the moves extract it and watch about first 2 mins to see quality? that is how i usually have done it in the past. im sorry for asking noob questions but i've used windows all my life
[05:56] <sebsebseb> ae86-drifter: no not that,  that was earlier, and not related
[05:56] <mneptok> sebsebseb: OK, i'll stop helping users with problems so that you can be lazy. oh, wait. no i won't. :)
[05:56] <ae86-drifter> sebsebseb: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=chow+to+use+google
[05:56] <ae86-drifter> it was a typo
[05:56] <Beastmode> there is a option in winrar for windows to "keep incomplete file"
[05:57] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: got a machine with Windows?
[05:57] <Crucible> HI....Could someone help me with my Skype please? mic is not working in skype
[05:57] <wynnerman> ya
[05:57] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=skype+linux
[05:57] <Satzo> Beastmode: VLC(i think) allows you to view inside .rar
[05:57] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; nope...but i'll try it at elsewhere...tell me what to do
[05:57] <acad> bastid_raZor: then again maybe it does... hmm
[05:57] <joebodo> unrar -kb possibly
[05:57] <joebodo> from "man unrar"
[05:57] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: see if Windows' chkdsk app can fix that filesystem
[05:58] <docmax> hello... how can i reanme device names?? i have sda1 sda3 and sda4... want to rename to sda1 sda2 sda3
[05:58] <jbuncher> Crucible, is it a built-in mic, or one that's attached to your webcam?
[05:58] <Beastmode> satzo ok i have vlc, ill try that and let u know
[05:58] <anna-bham> sebsebseb, You don't know how many freaking hours we have googled to fix our stuff.  Sometimes you have to suck it up and research
[05:58] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; okk
[05:58] <vigo> Beastmode: Have you tried the torrents or FTP applications?
[05:58] <vox> docmax: for what purpose?
[05:58] <Crucible> its a platronic headset
[05:58] <lilzeus> hey all, I am running more than website from my apache2 server, which file do I modify for the virtual hosting?
[05:58] <glicks> will koala be more efficient on netbooks?
[05:58] <docmax> vox, just for correct order
[05:58] <lilzeus> more than 1, that is
[05:58] <Crucible> the one that has a jack for sound and mic
[05:58] <sebsebseb> ae86-drifter: some people don't like the let me Google that for you site,  also I didn't see anyone ask about Skype on Linux
[05:58] <joebodo> beastmode try unrar -kb <filename>
[05:59] <Crucible> i can hear myself but when i did a skype test call it does not detect it
[05:59] <vox> docmax: they're in the order that udev discovered them in.. you cant really re-arrange them
[05:59] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: You would want to make a new file in /etc/apache2/sites-available for the new virtual host, then activate it by doing "sudo a2ensite thenewfilename"
[05:59] <vigo> joebodo: Thank you.
[05:59] <Beastmode> Satzo, vlc doesnt allow it
[05:59] <vox> sebsebseb: read back about 30 lines
[05:59] <Beastmode> vigo, im using Klibido
[05:59] <Beastmode> Joebodo, ill try that
[05:59] <anna-bham> I haven't used Skype since a test on an XO lat year
[05:59] <Beastmode> would i run that command in terminal?
[05:59] <docmax> vox, i have old links to sda2 which s now sda3.. i REALLY have to change it back
[06:00] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: I suggest searching for "apache name-based virtual hosting"
[06:00] <vox> docmax: why are you linking the device and not the mount point?
[06:00] <lilzeus> FireCrotch: ok, I have made the new file, but the configuration seems quite different from the way the virtual server files were configured under windows apache2
[06:00] <Satzo> Beastmode,  yes
[06:00] <glicks> will karmic koala be more efficient on netbooks?
[06:00] <sebsebseb> anna-bham: fortunatly I have good hardware, and so I haven't  needed to Google to find out how to configure stuff.   Also I was asking someone something in particular, something I didn't even know about before.
[06:00] <Crucible> when i go to options all it gives me is PULSEAUDIO SERVER local
[06:00] <joebodo> crucible are you using skype <IP_ADDRESS> ? i know that this version was supposed to address some sound issues
[06:00] <lilzeus> FireCrotch: like the example 'default' file is quite different
[06:01] <Netizen1993> hi all.. is anyone here familiar with icecast2 and ices2 setup?
[06:01] <Crucible> yeah <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <Crucible> should i uninstall it?
[06:01] <jbuncher> acad, thanks for the portable 7zip suggestion, looks like that won't work though.  The portable app just so happens to remember the password to decrypt the archive, which somewhat defeats the purpose.
[06:01] <docmax> vox, anyway.. i cant change them now'?
[06:01] <anna-bham> sebsebseb, You wouldn't believe what comes up on the Google for your issues.  Yeah, it takes a long time, but you'll eventually find your solutions
[06:01] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: I've never seen the file on Windows, so I don't know what it's like.  Ubuntu's default file works just fine. I would suggest copying that, and modifying it for the new host
[06:02] <joebodo> crucible my skype uses pulseaudo server (local) for mic and speakers
[06:02] <Satzo> anna-bham: agreed/
[06:02] <Beastmode> joebodo, no go
[06:02] <wizzo50> Hi, How can you go back to Adobe Flash 9.0 when there is sites that still require it to run?
[06:02] <Crucible> ok i will try uninstalling it and use the old version
[06:02] <joebodo> beastmode have you taken a look at the man page for unrar - there's quite a few options
[06:02] <sebsebseb> anna-bham: I have used Google for  searching for stuff before, but of course,  and yes it can be rather useless at times  with not exactly the correct keywords
[06:02] <Satzo> wizzo50, you mean latest flash wont load the page?
[06:02] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: The most important thing you'll need is ServerName yourdomain.com  in the new file, and ServerName yourotherdomain.com in the default file
[06:03] <wizzo50> Right
[06:03] <anna-bham> Netizen1993, I installed icecast on my  server a long time ago
[06:03] <vox> docmax: in a word, no. it's bad foo to hardlink to block devices, as the device ID can change depdning one what drives are connected/disconnected at boot time. this is why UUID's came about
[06:03] <Satzo> you certain its not your rig?  can you pm me the url?
[06:03] <Beastmode> ye i opened the rar with archive manager to look at options but didnt see one that would indicate "keep incomplete file"
[06:03] <anna-bham> Netizen1993, But, I broke it doing an upgrade and haven't bothered to fix it yet
[06:03] <Netizen1993> anna-bham: i'm having some problems..
[06:03] <vigo> sebsebseb: Scroogle it! -com is a great little trick.
[06:03] <Netizen1993> think you could take a peek at what I'm seeing?
[06:03] <lilzeus> FireCrotch: that is what I am doing, it just seems so different, and there are many more lines that I expected and some missing...like ServerName
[06:03] <Netizen1993> anna-bham: I have icecast2 setup http://www.our-bazar.net:8000
 but I'm having extreme issues with ices2
 here's my log output
 http://www.pastebin.ca/1617249
 here's my configuration file
[06:03] <FloodBot1> Netizen1993: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <anna-bham> Netizen1993, icecast is hella annoying to set up
[06:04] <sebsebseb> vigo: oh?
[06:04] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: what kind of stuff did you expect?
[06:04] <vigo> sebsebseb: I use scroogle as start page, is great and fast.
[06:04] <hans> Netizen1993: I might be able to help you set up icecast, I did it on my debian server. what build are you using?
[06:04] <lilzeus> FireCrotch: well, maybe a handful of commands
[06:04] <sebsebseb> vigo: I didn't know about it
[06:04] <wizzo50> Satzo: You know what Farkle is on facebook? When I go to play it, it won't load the game like I was before I upgrade to Flash 10. There is also some music players I was trying today that wouldn't load too because of this.
[06:04] <Netizen1993> what do you mean hans?  build.
[06:05] <vigo> sebsebseb: You do now.
[06:05] <Netizen1993> I'm using LinuxMint..
[06:05] <Netizen1993> ubuntu variant
[06:05] <lilzeus> servername, document root, serveradmin, etc
[06:05] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: ubuntu's default apache config is very basic :)  There are more configuration directives in (I believe) httpd.conf, as well
[06:05] <vigo> sebsebseb: URL is : http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
[06:05] <hans> Netizen1993: x86 x64?
[06:05] <Netizen1993> x86
[06:05] <lilzeus> my httpd.conf file is empty
[06:06] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: my apologies, it's apache2.conf
[06:06] <biovore> lilzeus: try apache.conf
[06:06] <Netizen1993> hans: may I im you?
[06:06] <hans> Netizen1993: pastebin me your config file and your output of when you try and run icecast2
[06:06] <Netizen1993> hans: http://www.pastebin.ca/1617249
[06:06] <hans> Netizen1993: I have my PM blocker turned on right now
[06:07] <Netizen1993> hans: http://pastebin.ca/1617251
[06:07] <likemindead> HALP PLZ. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/292083/
[06:07] <likemindead> How do I turn my wireless back on? It broke after my wife accidentally hit suspend. 0__o
[06:07] <hans> Netizen1993: are you trying to install ices or icecast2?
[06:08] <Netizen1993> hans: already have ices2 and icecast2 installed
[06:08] <Netizen1993> hans: www.our-bazar.net:8000
[06:08] <Satzo> likemindead, are you using WiCD?
[06:08] <hans> Netizen1993: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[06:08] <likemindead> I tried Wicd too. No fix. Back with network-manager now. Still nothing.
[06:08] <Netizen1993> just get a working stream that has sound.  almost had it earlier tonight.. active stream but no sound..
[06:09] <Netizen1993> after that I haven't had any luck getting it going since. :(
[06:09] <Satzo> what does ifconfig -a tell you about wireless adapter?
[06:09] <hans> Netizen1993: run off the server, or a live show?
[06:09] <anna-bham> likemindead, Have you checked the bios to make sure wifi was enabled?
[06:09] <Satzo> and did you tell WiCD to see it also?
[06:09] <Netizen1993> well.. it would be a live show I guess.
[06:10] <ari_stress> hi guys, whats hot
[06:10] <likemindead> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/292087/
[06:11] <qdb> hello . i have installed samba and shared a folder. how to see it in windows
[06:11] <anna-bham> Speaking of wifi, I broke my partner's wifi even though I edited menu.lst and we're running eeebuntu.  He's used to Windoze stuff, so he blames me cause he had to run Linux.
[06:11] <hans> Netizen1993: if it's a live cast, you don't need ices at all. regardless, start over from scratch using this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_webradio_with_icecast2_ices2
[06:12] <anna-bham> Icecast is really cool.  I used to stream video and audio from XOs to my user group and they'd watch in fascination at my cats for hours
[06:12] <Netizen1993> I started with that guide.. but they are only setup for local and with a play list..
[06:13] <Netizen1993> I'd be using something like amarok. or mixx
[06:13] <Netizen1993> to make the show.
[06:13] <ruby_on_tails> how can I rotate a pdf doc ?
[06:13] <Netizen1993> and they also talk about ices2 in that howto.
[06:13] <hans> Netizen1993: I used that guide to set mine up, and mine is live show
[06:13] <hans> just follow it, and when you're done, I'll help you from there
[06:14] <qdb> hello . i have installed samba and shared a folder. how to see it in windows
[06:14] <Netizen1993> hans: I'm sorry I'm not trying to be difficlut.. I have been pounding away at this all day.. and I"m no closer now than I was when I started.. I'm extremely frustrated.. so If I sound short it's not personal..
[06:14] <qdb> i see only the windows machine itself in windows
[06:14] <Netizen1993> how do I do this without ices2?
[06:14] <anna-bham> I remember getting icecast running on my Fedora 7 server and I had to compile a bunch of crap
[06:15] <Netizen1993> I have icecast2 up and running
[06:15] <Netizen1993> just I can't connect a stream to it
[06:15] <anna-bham> ices2 is a completely different thing and might need to be compiled, if my drunken self can remember what in the heck I did
[06:15] <Netizen1993> http://our-bazar.net:8000
[06:15] <hans> Netizen1993: you just need to connect your computer to icecast2 and initate a stream
[06:15] <Netizen1993> the player and music and icecast all reside on the same computer
[06:16] <Netizen1993> my server
[06:16] <hans> your local machine is your server?
[06:16] <anna-bham> Netizen1993, Well, that's easier if your source machine is the server
[06:16] <Satzo> ruby_on_tails, google stapler
[06:16] <Netizen1993> yes, it's all here in house.
[06:16] <Netizen1993> :)
[06:16] <Satzo> its a python app that can do such things
[06:16] <anna-bham> But it's a true pain to install
[06:16] <hans> not really anna-bham, the difference is using a domain name vs <IP_ADDRESS>, and a much slower connection speed
[06:17] <Netizen1993> I have a domain.
[06:17] <hans> I know, Netizen1993. give me a minute.
[06:17] <Netizen1993> if you check the url I just gave you, you can see the page running :)
[06:17] <Satzo> Netizen1993, yep
[06:18] <kiran_> how to keep the disks mounted always
[06:18] <pqrstuv> Hello, how would i stop sendmail being started during boot time?It takes time to start at boot time.
[06:18] <anna-bham> hans, I used to have an icecast server running, which I had to compile from source, but then I upgraded the server and it broke :(
[06:18] <qdb> hello
[06:18] <qdb> Ошибка 255 при запуске 'net usershare': net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[06:18] <qdb> You do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
[06:18] <pqrstuv> Hello, how would i stop sendmail being started during boot time?It takes time to start at boot time.
[06:18] <qdb> i have set permission
[06:19] <Satzo> kiran_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612295
[06:20] <anna-bham> For some background, I'm testing the XS for the XO project
[06:22] <panfist> in ubuntu is it appropriate to edit the /etc/inittab file? is there some front end to do it? what are the implications if i upgrade versions?
[06:22] <hans> Netizen1993: you need to install edcast now, and use it to talk to your server
[06:22] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=mount+disk+ubuntu+omg
[06:23] <Flannel> ae86-drifter: Stop that.
[06:24] <assoguerozen_sx> guys im trying tu make image from pxs1 cds but softwares here (brasero/k3b) only saving ".toc" images
[06:24] <assoguerozen_sx> i want .iso/.bin
[06:24] <Netizen1993> edcast.. works in Wine I guess?
[06:24] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, you can make it save as .iso
[06:24] <hans> Netizen1993: it's supported in linux last time I checked
[06:25] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo that option just not coming
[06:25] <panfist> is there an ubuntu/debian counterpart to kickstart from redhat?
[06:25] <vingian> is there a way I can prevent ubuntu from shutting off my wireless connection when i close the lid on my laptop?
[06:25] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, hang on
[06:25] <Flannel> panfist: What does kickstart do?
[06:25] <Netizen1993> I only see .exe binary's
[06:25] <just_ilya> Hello
[06:25] <n8tuser> panfist it can do kickstart also, but it uses debian install
[06:26] <panfist> it kind of preconfigures the distro with what packages and startup scripts you want
[06:26] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, 1. insert CD 2. right click and copy
[06:26] <WiCoder> ilya you russian pig :p
[06:26] <Satzo> under properties, choose image type
[06:26] <Flannel> panfist: Yeah, you'll use debian-installer and a preseed file, I believe.
[06:26] <just_ilya> Wicked, thank you, mr. racist
[06:26] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo to do it with another cd (like normal data files cd), the option to make .iso comes
[06:26] <Satzo> but not ps1?
[06:26] <WiCoder> j/k I know two ilya's
[06:26] <WiCoder> both russian :p
[06:26] <Satzo> then goto the shell and use dd
[06:27] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo right click on the desktop icon? (it show 'audio disc' lol)
[06:27] <Flannel> WiCoder: Please don't be rude.  Even in a joking manner.
[06:27] <zaoul> Anyone know of an app I can pipe commands right into the clipboard?
[06:27] <dp_> Hi
[06:27] <hans> Netizen1993: http://svn.oddsock.org/public/trunk/
[06:27] <WiCoder> and is russian arace or nationality?
[06:27] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/name-of.iso
[06:27] <qdb> i have set sudo iconfig eth1 192 168 0 1 by mistake how to remove that address?
[06:27] <Satzo> where sr0(or whatever your optical drive mounts as)
[06:28] <just_ilya> Would anyone kindly tell how to make samba share stay as it was after reboot?
[06:28] <alteregoa> how can i install ubuntu without cdrom, i got a external harddrive with ubuntu and i want to install ubuntu to the internal drive
[06:28] <vox> WiCoder: this is for ubuntu-related support only, thanks
[06:28] <alteregoa> i tried casper and stuff, but after i have a error, it says cdrom drive not found installation aborted
[06:28] <Satzo> just_ilya, google persistent mount
[06:28] <zaoul> just_ilya: you'll need to play with /etc/fstab
[06:29] <zaoul> just_ilya: best I can tell you as im REALLY busy right now
[06:29] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo it fails
[06:29] <vingian> anyone know how i can prevent ubuntu from suspending my wi-fi adapter when i close the lid on my laptop?
[06:29] <dp_> Hi any can help in Jstun problem with ubuntu
[06:29] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo ill try to look for some specific thing about it
[06:29] <Flannel> zaoul: Try xclip
[06:29] <alteregoa> i d/l the iso and cp it to /ubuntu904
[06:29] <Satzo> what fails?  dd will dump anything
[06:29] <zaoul> haha.. I just found that in synergy .. thanks
[06:29] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo cuz it show 'audio disc' to all psx1 cds
[06:30] <zaoul> cooL
[06:30] <Satzo> ahh
[06:30] <devD> where is smb.conf in ubuntu
[06:30] <Satzo> well then man dd
[06:30] <meborc> vingian, i don't think you can suspend ans still have wifi working
[06:30] <Satzo> and that should getcher iso file :)
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> dd fails
[06:30] <just_ilya> Well i'm using fstab, but how apply it to samba?
[06:30] <dp_> I need help regarding JSTUN support in Ubuntu
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> k3b/brasero did .toc images
[06:30] <vingian> meborc: i am not suspending - thats the thing
[06:30] <Satzo> google .toc > .iso ?
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> not even show to make .iso
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> hum
[06:30] <Satzo> i dont own a PS1
[06:30] <Satzo> just PS3
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> lets take a look ^_^
[06:30] <meborc> vingian, you have to disable suspend on lid close... from power options
[06:30] <vingian> meborc: or so i haven't configured it to suspend when i close the lid
[06:31] <zaoul> I <3 uew quad core duo
[06:31] <assoguerozen_sx> i want to make images cuz cds too old, sooner it will be corrupted
[06:31] <meborc> vingian, that is wierd
[06:31] <zaoul> man you guys are distracting me
[06:31] <zaoul> ;-p
[06:32] <alteregoa> am i talking to the moon?
[06:32] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx,   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664656
[06:32] <vingian> meborc: under Power management, on the option: When laptop lid is closed: it says "Blank Screen"
[06:32] <vingian> meborc: i wonder whats the daemon/kernel mod that watches for the lid closed event
[06:33] <Satzo> i would think ACPI
[06:33] <meborc> vingian, go to launtchpad and see if there is a bug on this, it should be reported
[06:33] <vingian> Satzo: now why didn't i think of that??? lol!!!
[06:33] <joebodo> just_ilya, here's a sample from my fstab: //vm-wow/c /media/vm-wow   smbfs  auto,username=xxx,password=xxxxxxxx,uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[06:33] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo damn just too fast for me
[06:33] <just_ilya> ..i mean i need folder to staying shared on my side
[06:33] <assoguerozen_sx> thx alot
[06:33] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, psxrip does what you need
[06:34] <Newbie2> Hi.. need help in Sound in Ubuntu 8.10.. i have installed ubuntu yester.. by default the sound was  working perfectly(detected my creative sound card Audigy CA0106 OSS).. but when i play musiz today i m unable to play songs since i hear crackling sound... plz help
[06:34] <assoguerozen_sx> ok ok
[06:34] <assoguerozen_sx> 100% opk
[06:35] <alteregoa> hmm
[06:35] <joebodo> newbie2 try alsamixer from command prompt -
[06:35] <Newbie2> how to do that joebodo
[06:35] <Newbie2> ?
[06:36] <joebodo> open up gnome-terminal
[06:36] <Newbie2> k
[06:36] <joebodo> then type in "alsamixer"
[06:36] <LucidGuy> Xen  vs VMware .. any comments?
[06:37] <Satzo> LucidGuy, $
[06:37] <LucidGuy> Satzo,   besides that.
[06:37] <vox> LucidGuy: it's a personal thing, like gnome or kde
[06:37] <cosimo_> hello
[06:37] <LucidGuy> vox, I disagree with that..
[06:37] <Satzo> ive never tried Xen but check the forums and see how active/supportive they are
[06:37] <vox> LucidGuy: but.. i've used both, and xen beats vmware into small pieces
[06:38] <Satzo> vox, how is the community support?
[06:38] <LucidGuy> vox, Really? ...  from what I read VMware is still the best.
[06:38] <cosimo_> my screen blinks (turns buck for a second) everythime i try to play a dvd
[06:38] <Newbie2> joebodo... i tried alsamixer... it shows my card as PulseAudio.. but mine is Creative sound card
[06:38] <vox> Satzo: it's fine
[06:38] <ae86-drifter> cosimo_ what GFX drivers u using and which application
[06:39] <vox> LucidGuy: *shrug* im going on my personal experience, using both in public-facing production enviro
[06:39] <joebodo> newbie2 i believe that's ok
[06:39] <cosimo_> its happening with both VLC and gxine.
[06:39] <cosimo_> let me check the driver
[06:40] <ae86-drifter> what video card drivers u use
[06:40] <joebodo> newbie2 actually it shows my card correctly
[06:40] <Newbie2> what do u want me to do in alsamiser ??
[06:40] <LucidGuy> Im thinking mainly for linux guests ... something tells me I should stick with xen.
[06:41] <wizzo50> Satzo: How you setup with a new user when I have this setup to autimatially sign-in and when I log out, it just asks for a user name and password, but in the bottom left corner of task bar, there isn't anywhere to setup as a new user.
[06:42] <pqrstuv> Is anyone here?
[06:42] <Satzo> No.
[06:42] <pqrstuv> Satzo: How would i stop sendmail?
[06:42] <pqrstuv> I want to stop sendmail from boot time.
[06:42] <Satzo> no idea.  gime a min
[06:42] <Newbie2> eed help in Sound in Ubuntu 8.10.. i have installed ubuntu yester.. by default the sound was  working perfectly(detected my creative sound card Audigy CA0106 OSS).. but when i play musiz today i m unable to play songs since i hear crackling sound... plz help
[06:43] <pqrstuv> How would i stop sendmail? Can someone reply?
[06:43] <pqrstuv> ?
[06:43] <pqrstuv> ^
[06:43] <pqrstuv> ?
[06:43] <pqrstuv> ^
[06:43] <FloodBot1> pqrstuv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <salax> pqrstuv, u can juz remove it
[06:43] <pqrstuv> salax: How ?
[06:43] <Satzo> pqrstuv, google disable sendmail
[06:44] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+stop+sendmail
[06:44] <vox> pqrstuv: open a terminal, type   sudo apt-get remove sendmail
[06:44] <pqrstuv> No, i don't want to remove sendmail,
[06:44] <pqrstuv> /etc/init.d/sendmail stop works, but want to stop it at boot time.
[06:45] <vox> you want to keep it, you just dont want it to run
[06:45] <lstarnes> pqrstuv: sudo update-rc.d -f sendmail remove
[06:45] <pqrstuv> vox: Yes
[06:45] <vox> pqrstuv: what lstarnes said
[06:46] <salax> or u can install sudo apt-get install sysvconfig
[06:46] <salax> , check which service u want to enable at what runlevel
[06:46] <Satzo> salax: is there a gui for that app?
[06:46] <qdb> there is guest access option in folder sharing. it is not written in https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html . does it work?
[06:46] <salax> Satzo, yes
[06:46] <eshannon> Anyone help me I just installed a 1.5 tb drive and Not sure how I can format it and use it?
[06:46] <Satzo> is it a front end to sysvconfig or standalone?
[06:46] <pqrstuv> lstarnes: Yes, that's what i'm looking for ,thank you.
[06:46] <qdb> no it is written
[06:46] <cosimo_> hmm im not sure, don't really know. How can I see whayt video card driver do i have? does ubuntu-linux use drivers?
[06:46] <biovore> eshannon: sata?
[06:47] <eshannon> Yes
[06:47] <Satzo> eshannon are you going to use this drive with any windows or apple computers?
[06:47] <spawnman> hey my wifi disappeared after an update im on 9.10 i tried reloading the drivers and that did nothing, lspci shows the wifi adapter but iwconfig doesnt show that its there
[06:47] <salax> Satzo, not sure
[06:47] <eshannon> no
[06:47] <Satzo> k
[06:47] <Satzo> ext3 would be your best bet I would think
[06:47] <biovore> ^ yup
[06:47] <Satzo> spawnman, ifconfig -a dont see it?
[06:47] <vox> spawnman: join #ubuntu+1
[06:47] <spawnman> no
[06:47] <just_ilya> come on guys won't you tell me such easy thing? how to make samba shares stay after reboot(not mounted shares on other comp, but on my local system)?
[06:47] <spawnman> vox what is that channel?
[06:48] <Satzo> just_ilya, i already answered
[06:48] <vox> spawnman: the 9.10 support channel
[06:48] <spawnman> vox ok thanks
[06:48] <eshannon> What program or camnad do I use to look to see which drive it is and format it
[06:49] <MTecknology> spawnman: by the end of the month 9.10 support will be moved into here
[06:49] <vox> eshannon: gparted will do what you're looking for
[06:49] <eshannon> ty
[06:50] <Newbie2> plz help me to make my sound card to work in ubuntu
[06:50] <Newbie2> !!
[06:50] <Newbie2> !!
[06:50] <FloodBot1> Newbie2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <MTecknology> !audio | Newbie2
[06:52] <cosimo_> Newbie2 im having kinda of a newbie problem two, sorry
[06:52] <just_ilya> Satzo, no i don't thik this is what i asked about
[06:52] <eshannon> Should I create an MSDOS Table on the HD?
[06:52] <[-jon-]_> on top, for cpu usage, what is %wa for?
[06:53] <vox> [-jon-]_: I/O wait
[06:53] <Satzo> just_ilya, google persistent mount ubuntu
[06:53] <Docteh> eshannon: msdos table?
[06:53] <Satzo> eshannon, no reason
[06:53] <[-jon-]_> hmm, I guess this server is taking a crap on the harddrive
[06:53] <eshannon> Yes I am using Gpated with a new drive
[06:53] <Satzo> thats why i asked you if u were using win/apple
[06:53] <[-jon-]_> 70%wa
[06:53] <Docteh> eshannon: is it asking msdos vs efi?
[06:54] <eshannon> Slelect new partiton table type: msdos  is default
[06:54] <vox> [-jon-]_: that's.. excessive-ish
[06:54] <Docteh> ah
[06:54] <[-jon-]_> yeah the server is having issues, its really sluggish
[06:54] <[-jon-]_> without being root is there any way to see what processes are waiting for diskio?
[06:54] <just_ilya> Satzo, i know how to use persistent mount, bot it's not the point
[06:55] <Satzo> you mean you want to make samba shares available after a reboot?
[06:55] <vox> [-jon-]_: that im not sure about
[06:55] <[-jon-]_> it is having a rough night :(
[06:55] <[-jon-]_> 25 load avg
[06:56] <Satzo> just_ilya, sorry im not sure
[06:56] <Docteh> eshannon: its still a good safe default, you might have problems with anything older than windows vista (2006?)
[06:57] <eshannon> ty
[06:57] <just_ilya> Satzo, yes, i talk about share _my_ folders, not about mounting shares
[06:57] <[-jon-]_> vox: I killed one of my processes (rtorrent) that was doing a hash check of like 700mb. It should have been doing that a while ago, it stopped it, but its still at like 26%wa. I think the disk is having issues
[06:57] <Satzo> yeah i realize now just_ilya
[06:57] <Docteh> just_ilya: you can share stuff from the gui?
[06:58] <infid> can you make $HOME/public_html/ directories for apache in ubuntu?
[06:58] <tomvolek_> HI, I am running Ubuntu 9.x  I am trying to evaluate a comercial java software that has a .rpm distribution.  Is it possible to install it on Ubuntu to try it out ?
[06:58] <Docteh> or have you not found /etc/samba/smb.conf yet
[06:58] <Docteh> !alien | tomvolek_
[06:58] <[-jon-]_> 30%wa isnt normal either is it?
[06:58] <salax> tomvolek_, yes, try to use alien
[06:58] <Satzo> tomvolek_, does it have a .jar file inside the rpm?
[06:58] <chrissy> hello i have a question
[06:58] <vigo> tomvolek_: Yes
[06:58] <FireCrotch> infid: Yes, you'll want to use the userdir module for apache
[06:58] <tomvolek_> ok thanks guys ...
[06:59] <qdb> hello. now i have connected but shared folder is in my home folder and my home folder is denied for "others". cannot samba access it? i cannot access that folder from windows
[06:59] <tomvolek_> I am not sure Satzo.   My screen is blinking (goes black for a second, turning back to normal) when viewing dvds on VLC and Gxine, and forgot to mention, it hapens with more frequency  with fullscreen.
[07:03] <Manana> family friendly... this is the internet
[07:03] <qdb> but asks password and name
[07:04] <cosimo_> I dont remember the users name, she/he was helping me  adn asked about the video card driver i was using
[07:04] <Satzo> cosimo_, does this happen in another userspace?
[07:04] <Manana> if you've made it to IRC... pretty sure you've parted ways with family friendly on a few occasions
[07:04] <trey__> i need help with  gparted. i cant see mmcblk0
[07:04] <Flannel> Manana: Please help to keep this channel ontopic, thanks.
[07:04] <trey__> or im gonna go sell some crank
[07:05] <trey__> now help
[07:05] <MTecknology> !coc | trey__: Manana
[07:05] <[-jon-]_> vox: if ntohing intensive was running on a server, what would a typical %wa be?
[07:05] <trey__> is ubottu a bot
[07:05] <SisyphusFragment> Hey I have a tech question: I've been recording the lectures in my class and I want to host them on the net for free and be able to link to them so that fellow students can download them easypeasy. What service do you suggest?
[07:05] <prince_jammys> trey__: yes
[07:06] <trey__> cool
[07:06] <Docteh> [-jon-]_: if the box is doing nothing it should be 0%
[07:06] <Manana> SisyphusFragment: youtube or google video
[07:06] <[-jon-]_> what about an average mysql daemon, etc
[07:06] <Manana> free bandwidth
[07:06] <[-jon-]_> would 10%wa be...abnormal?
[07:06] <Docteh> the waiting comes from waiting around for IO events
[07:06] <trey__> now im gonna go sell some crank
[07:06] <jason__> SisyphusFragment, I definitely recommend consulting the professor at least, and the school's legal department as well, if you want to do this.
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> SisyphusFragment: First, you should be aware that you need to get permission from your instructor to do so or you're breaking the law in most countries.
[07:06] <Satzo> SisyphusFragment, or vimeo
[07:06] <MTecknology> trey__: stop
[07:07] <cosimo_> Satzo: im very sorry, it actually doesn't happen with mplayer.  Thank any how, I will try to see what's happening with the other players but right now my girlfriend is waiting.
[07:07] <Akos_beginner> IF I can mount a Windows partition than why cannot start it? I always became an error message: Starting... HARD DISK ERROR. Could someone have any idea?
[07:07] <SisyphusFragment> Ok, well thanks guys
[07:07] <MTecknology> Akos_beginner: when you boot windows?
[07:07] <trey__> Please don't ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily me
[07:08] <Akos_beginner> I have dual boot with ubuntu
[07:08] <MTecknology> Akos_beginner: Is this error when you boot windows and not Ubuntu??
[07:08] <Akos_beginner> Yes, when I boot wondows
[07:08] <trey__> i use to have dual boot
[07:08] <joebodo> Akos_beginner, did your windows session shut down correctly ?
[07:08] <Akos_beginner> yes.
[07:08] <MTecknology> Akos_beginner: This issue is most likely with Windows - which version?
[07:09] <Akos_beginner> xp
[07:09] <prince_jammys> looks like you're entering ##windows domain
[07:09] <SisyphusFragment> If I get permission, it's just sound, so what site can I upload just a file for download to? I've heard about something like Mozy. Any suggestions?
[07:09] <Akos_beginner> but if I mount it, there is a boot.ini, everything
[07:09] <trey__> xp is cool vista and 7 sucks
[07:09] <MTecknology> Akos_beginner: You could try to let XP repair the Windows installation
[07:09] <Docteh> Akos_beginner: check which partition is marked bootable unless you're going from grub to the partition
[07:09] <trey__> need help
[07:10] <MTecknology> !offtopic | trey__
[07:10] <Akos_beginner> I read many thing about grub  and booting and mbr.
[07:10] <chrissy> vigo i am talking about the bars at top that show wireless and web browser and so on
[07:10] <trey__> i cant see mmcblk0 in gparted
[07:10] <chrissy> also time
[07:10] <rashed2020> Get 9.10 out there faster! I just got a new laptop and I'm counting every second.
[07:10] <MTecknology> trey__: use fdisk
[07:10] <Docteh> rashed2020: why dont you just install the beta?
[07:11] <joebodo> rashed2020, imo 9.10 is pretty stable right now
[07:11] <MTecknology> Docteh: don't suggest that
[07:11] <rashed2020> How does upgrading from Beta to final work?
[07:11] <Manana> haha
[07:11] <Docteh> MTecknology: then ban me from here :)
[07:11] <MTecknology> rashed2020: do an update
[07:11] <Flannel> rashed2020: Just like regular updates.  But #ubuntu+1 is the place for Karmic questions
[07:11] <rashed2020> I usually stick to LTSs.
[07:11] <Akos_beginner> There is a tool boot_info_script032.sh, here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292112/
[07:11] <Docteh><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:11] <MTecknology> rashed2020: next lts is 10.04 IIRC
[07:11] <joebodo> rashed2020, update-manager -d
[07:12] <joebodo> !lts
[07:12] <trey__> gparted is a gui for fdisk. i no how to solve to problem but i dont no how to code
[07:12] <Rishab> gud morning linux ..
[07:12] <Satzo> gday
[07:12] <rashed2020> I thought 9.10 was an LTS. Damn it. I'm upgrading anyway, it looks too nice to ignore.
[07:13] <MTecknology> rashed2020: update-manager -d will upgrade you to karmic; otherwise if you start using the beta - then a standard update will have you on it
[07:13] <MTecknology> rashed2020: watch the language
[07:13] <trey__> your not going to help
[07:13] <rashed2020> Really? The D word is bad?
[07:13] <MTecknology> trey__: You ignored my advice
[07:13] <MTecknology> rashed2020: ya
[07:13] <rashed2020> MTecknology: And regular updates from Beta take me to final? Did I understand that correctly?
[07:14] <Akos_beginner> I have found quite a similar issue:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1070007&page=2
[07:14] <Flannel> rashed2020: correct.  But #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> rashed2020: *IF* nothing breaks in between.  Big if.
[07:14] <Docteh> yay we can use the d word again
[07:14] <Akos_beginner> Wherethis command solved the problem: sudo dd if=XP_nine.txt of=/dev/sda1 bs=1 seek=80 skip=80
[07:14] <prince_jammys> careful with that.
[07:14] <Docteh> woah woah woah
[07:14] <Flannel> Docteh: Please stay ontopic.
[07:15] <trey__> i don feel like having to demount then fdisk bla bla something then something that i have to go detiled in
[07:15] <rashed2020> Who's getting the grub error?
[07:15] <Docteh> Akos_beginner: don't dick around with dd onto partitions
[07:15] <Docteh> Flannel: dont say woah woah woah?
[07:16] <rashed2020> Docteh: Watch the language.
[07:16] <Akos_beginner> okay, but there is even less idea...
[07:16] <trey__> so let me tell you what conflict it is having
[07:16] <Docteh> rashed2020: suggest a better word for that sentance then
[07:16] <Manana> haha
[07:16] <locky> Backing up gf's lappy now to put 9.10 beta on ;)
[07:16] <trey__> do you have a sd slot on your computer
[07:17] <rashed2020> Docteh: "Oh my"
[07:17] <joebodo> locky ot - but i think the biggest change in 9.10 is ext4 - that requires a reinstall to get the full benefits
[07:18] <Akos_beginner> What is strange, that when I choose the windows to boot, I got the 'hard disk error' messages very very fast.
[07:18] <Docteh> rashed2020: Don't Oh my with dd and specific partitions
[07:19] <Docteh> Akos_beginner: its because the error is  coming from bios or MBR
[07:19] <locky> Has xp ATM
[07:19] <trey__> MTecknology i want to use gparted
[07:19] <ZykoticK9> locky, FYI 9.10 beta is sucking down on average 50-100MB of updates a day right now.  You might want to wait until release...
[07:19] <locky> I used ext4 with 9.04 at home and was very happy with it
[07:19] <chrissy> hey how do i do a defrag
[07:19] <rashed2020> trey__: He left.
[07:19] <trey__> for whut im trying to do
[07:19] <Docteh> !defrag
[07:19] <Satzo> chrissy, you dont
[07:20] <Akos_beginner> Yes, that means the windows has no problem, but the MBR or BIOS regarding the windows boot has.
[07:20] <trey__> can you help me
[07:20] <just_ilya> i cheked out and my issue was really a bug, it's already reported
[07:20] <rashed2020> trey__: What are you trying to do?
[07:20] <maestrojed> I would like to change a user's home directory. When I look at that users current home directory it is filled with files (I guess system files, I did not put them there). If I change the user's home directory do those files need to be there? Will they be recreated in the new folder?
[07:21] <chrissy> ok when i turn off my laptop it says system halted and i have to manually shutt it off
[07:21] <chrissy> what causes this
[07:21] <Satzo> ACPI perhaps
[07:21] <trey__> im trying to get gparted to reganise my sd slot
[07:21] <Docteh> maestrojed: default files are from /etc/skel, don't really need them but they help
[07:21] <chrissy> how do i fix that
[07:21] <Satzo> chrissy, is acpi enabled in bios?
[07:21] <trey__> do you have a sd slot
[07:22] <chrissy> not sure
[07:22] <Satzo> check it out
[07:22] <maestrojed> Docteh: help? as in performance or as in they are nice to have. Because I will let /home/username exist so they will be available. I just will change the "active" user's directory
[07:22] <chrissy> do i enable it if it is not
[07:22] <rashed2020> trey__: I do. It worked right out of the box so I never had to mess around with it. And as far as I can tell gparted can't help your computer recognize an SD slot.
[07:22] <Satzo> chrissy, yes.. google acpi as well.. for your own good :)
[07:23] <Satzo> just so u know what it is
[07:23] <trey__> that one
[07:23] <chrissy> ok i will try now thanks so much
[07:23] <Satzo> np
[07:24] <purplefool> evidentially i installed ubuntu through windows (mental fart with consequences...).  i have backed up everything important and would like to 're-install' but realized...i don't know how.  what would be the best way to go about this?
[07:24] <Docteh> maestrojed: just nice to have
[07:24] <shadeslayer> hey,can i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.10 directly?
[07:24] <lstarnes> shadeslayer: no, you'll have to go to 9.04 in between
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> purplefool: boot to windows and use add/remove programs to uninstal ubuntu like any other app
[07:25] <shadeslayer> bah...
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: you have to go via jaunty
[07:25] <purplefool> ActionParsnip, well now...that sounds easy enough.  thx
[07:25] <izmaelis> hello, why can't i see free disk space after moving huge file to another partition?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> purplefool: thats the idea, you can then reinstall and have a fresh install
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[07:26] <izmaelis> i looks like file is still there
[07:26] <izmaelis> it*
[07:26] <locky> Filled it up maybe? :p
[07:26] <maestrojed> Doctech: Thanks!
[07:27] <Docteh> izmaelis: for laughs check the trash or do like df -h /source then df -h /target and make sure its different partition
[07:27] <shadeslayer> and if i upgrade to 9.04 via a internet connection,how big is the download?
[07:28] <chiques> So what's the word on 9.10, any cool things?
[07:28] <Docteh> shadeslayer: depends on how much you installed, its not too too long if you have a fast connection
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | chiques
[07:28] <daya> is there is any DVD  for LTSP ubuntu 9.04 ,
[07:28] <shadeslayer> Docteh: its a base install,just installed it on a  friends PC last night,he has a 256 kbps connection
[07:29] <izmaelis> oh, i found what was wwong. I downloaded huge file with rtorrent, moved that file from the partition i downed it to and forgot to delete torrent from rtorrent
[07:29] <Docteh> shadeslayer: base as in "base" or as in similar to whats on the livecd?
[07:30] <shadeslayer> Docteh: live cd
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> izmaelis: does rtorrent not supprt moving the storage of the data?
[07:30] <evilaim> hmm
[07:30] <evilaim> ok, weird question
[07:30] <kosmic> What isthe deal here
[07:30] <kosmic> no sound!
[07:31] <evilaim> say I get a PS3, does it rely on that ghetto ms to watch videos off my pc?
[07:31] <kosmic> hoold on
[07:31] <Satzo> evilaim, it doesnt need to
[07:31] <evilaim> what do you mean?
[07:31] <Docteh> shadeslayer: are you upgrading from the cli? if you do it'll give you a super long list of what its downloading and how big the download is
[07:31] <Satzo> well... i ended up using XP as a transcoder
[07:31] <Satzo> but you can use ubuntu to transcode too
[07:31] <evilaim> eeeeeeew
[07:31] <Satzo> i know..
[07:32] <nic1> hey  i wanted to remove a package
[07:32] <nic1> it tells unable to lock
[07:32] <Docteh> the GUI *may* do that as well, but it tells you before it starts
[07:32] <Satzo> but the showstopper for me was 1080p(at build time) wouldnt run smooth with ubuntu
[07:32] <nic1> though i am not running anything else
[07:32] <shadeslayer> Docteh: hmmm....im not too sure that his connection will last that long,im giving him a alternate cd torrent which can be used as a upgrade cd
[07:32] <nic1> is there any command to check how actually pkg manager got locked?
[07:32] <Satzo> evilaim, http://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/
[07:32] <Satzo> thats what i used
[07:33] <kosmic> WHY does sound not fucking work
[07:33] <Flannel> kosmic: Please mind your language
[07:33] <kosmic> that you know
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | kosmic
[07:33] <kosmic> but support is not available
[07:33] <Docteh> shadeslayer: it downloads everything and _then_ installs btw
[07:33] <evilaim> Ok, this is prolly dumb, but if I install ubuntu on a PS3, will it still play my games nativly?
[07:33] <shadeslayer> Docteh: ok
[07:33] <Satzo> evilaim, yes
[07:33] <Satzo> but.....
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: no
[07:33] <Satzo> ps3 and linux is a letdown
[07:34] <Satzo> ActionParsnip, yes it does
[07:34] <Satzo> they can coexist
[07:34] <Docteh> evilaim: you restart the ps3 to play games
[07:34] <evilaim> ...
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Satzo: so you can play PS3 games through ubuntu on a PS3?
[07:34] <evilaim> Oh, so it's a dual boot?
[07:34] <Satzo> ActionParsnip, : NO
[07:34] <Satzo> sry for caps
[07:34] <Satzo> it is a dual boot scheme
[07:34] <Satzo> linux on PS3 works thru sony's hypervisor
[07:34] <evilaim> What would be the point of having ubuntu on the console then?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Satzo: i thought that, the way it was worded came across as 'Can I play PS3 games in Ubuntu"
[07:34] <Satzo> hang on evilaim i gota link for you about this
[07:34] <Billiard> rip blu ray discs
[07:35] <nic1> is there any command to check how actually pkg manager got locked?
[07:35] <Docteh> oooo really?
[07:35] <Satzo> ActionParsnip, heh
[07:35] <shadeslayer> Docteh: yep
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: saves cash, you will have a dual boot with Ubuntu and the PS3 OS
[07:35] <evilaim> ok
[07:35] <evilaim> thanks
[07:35] <evilaim> any linx on this would be great
[07:35] <evilaim> I'll read the heck outta them
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: PS3 has not that much RAM so stay light
[07:35] <livetoday> running (sudo) apt-get <anything> gives me a segfault. can this be fixed? is it a known issue?
[07:36] <evilaim> no?
[07:36] <evilaim> let me check specs
[07:36] <Docteh> sweet, i have a friend with a ps3, if i can get him to install linux i can now buy blurays
[07:36] <evilaim> *cough* can ps3 play backup blurays?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: 256Mb
[07:36] <Satzo> evilaim, arstechnica.com forums "Linux Kung Fu"
[07:36] <Satzo> it was in the top page yesterday
[07:37] <rashed2020> There's a tutorial somewhere to getting your PS3 controller working with Ubuntu on PS3. Emulator heaven.
[07:37] <Satzo> rashed2020, yep
[07:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> whenever I run opera or firefox my ram cache is like at 79-90% why is that?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: so you wont be running compiz if you want any kind of system responsiveness, grab XUbuntu or install LXDE / Fluxbox as your DE
[07:37] <Satzo> the con is the video device on PS3 isnt accessed directly by linux
[07:37] <evilaim> This has interested me for a while, but never really looked into
[07:37] <Satzo> ActionParsnip, i think yellowdog 6 is the latest for PS3(PPC really)
[07:38] <Docteh> evilaim: I'm not sure but I think the usual method for consoles applies, but not here
[07:38] <Satzo> evilaim, the reasons i mentioned discouraged me from bothering
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Satzo: true
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: reduce plugins can help
[07:38] <evilaim> hmm
[07:38] <Satzo> time to go home.. im at work later than i need to haha
[07:38] <Satzo> cyaz folks
[07:38] <rashed2020> If you want a good laugh: Look up running Vista in VirtualBox in Ubuntu on a PS3.
[07:38] <rashed2020> I think it took like 15 minutes to boot up.
[07:39] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, I have none installed
[07:39] <Billiard> rashed2020: Vista on 256 mb of ram, lol
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: so no skins / ad-blocker etc
[07:39] <evilaim> Ok, so, if I have ubuntu on a PS3, I can play what ever movie media ubuntu will allow in 1080p?
[07:39] <shadeslayer> rashed2020: haha
[07:39] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, my cache and ram is at 23% now but if I open a browsers BOOM
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[07:40] <evilaim> thanks
[07:40] <evilaim> I've been googling like heck.  I have 10 windows open, reading one by one
[07:40] <eshannon> Got my New HD installed and Formated. I am unable to create a folder or add files. What do I hace to do to give myself permisions
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: try a lighter browser like swiftfox or kazehakase
[07:40] <Docteh> U-b-u-n-t-u: does it support swap?
[07:41] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Docteh, not sure?
[07:41] <inspiron630> can you open .docx in open office now
[07:41] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I am using a cel d dual core 2.0 gzh pc 4200 ram 64 bit 9.04
[07:41] <rashed2020> inspiron630: Yes.
[07:41] <lstarnes> inspiron630: I think some newer versions of openoffice have at least partial support for .docx
[07:42] <Docteh> U-b-u-n-t-u: awhile back i had an idea of using ram in a remote computer as swap
[07:42] <evilaim> Yep, I'm discouraged...
[07:42] <evilaim> haha
[07:43] <souler> Hey, why do I have so very few effects in Linux? Even though I enabled extra features.... the flame and some other effects aren't there. Are they removed in the current 9.04 linux version from the past ones?????????????????
[07:43] <evilaim> souler
[07:43] <puff> have an ubuntu box with mythtv.  I added a second SATA drive and now X works at first, but dies.
[07:43] <joebodo_> souler, install ccsm
[07:43] <puff> I can't find anything in /var/log/Xorg.log
[07:43] <souler> joebodo, how do I do it?
[07:43] <souler> sudo apt-get install ccsm?
[07:43] <evilaim> did you happen to do: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> souler: press alt+f2   type ccsm    press enter
[07:44] <souler> evilaim yes
[07:44] <evilaim> then you enable them in there
[07:44] <Docteh> puff: even if the box sits?
[07:44] <souler> Actionparsnip, nothing happpened
[07:44] <puff> Docteh: "sits"?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> souler: run it from terminal, see if its installed
[07:44] <evilaim> system -> preferences -> compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:44] <Docteh> puff: does nothing
[07:44] <puff> Yeah.
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> souler: it will give you the command to run to install it if its missing
[07:45] <souler> says already running
[07:45] <puff> ctrl-alt-shift-f1 gets me to a console, there' sno x process, if I try to start an X app it fails.
[07:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> not sure if that helps?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> souler: then run: killall ccsm
[07:45] <souler> I just want to have some extra effects, I can chose the fold, glide and magic lamp ones, but no flame or anything....
[07:45] <Docteh> puff: try "startx" from console
[07:46] <lstarnes> puff: if X is actually running, try export DISPLAY=:0.0
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> souler: you need to kill off the process so you can rerun it
[07:46] <souler> ActionParshin, did it
[07:46] <Docteh> puff: I'd try to isolate if its the new drive or powering the new drive thats the problem
[07:46] <souler> ActionParsnip *
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> souler: cool
[07:47] <Docteh> puff: also look at the bottom of dmesg as soon as X dies
[07:47] <Bluey> anyone have any experience with lightscribe on ubuntu?
[07:47] <Docteh> people actually use that?
[07:48] <souler> But it's not that.... I CAN open the effects manager, just that very few of effects available for selection...
[07:48] <souler> Is there a way to install some extra ones?
[07:48] <puff> What should the x process be named?
[07:48] <Docteh> X Xorg
[07:48] <Docteh> something like that
[07:48] <Docteh> i'll check my other computer
[07:49] <Docteh> ooo no X on there either, I'm in a room without a gui right now :-/
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> souler: sudo apt-get --reinstall install compiz-plugins  compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[07:49] <rafiq>
[07:49] <noodleson> trying to play Merlin's revenge 3. firefox says i'm missing the plugin, but can't find one. Is it shockwave? and can linux not install shockwave?
[07:49] <revenge> is there a way to access AOL/AIM chats in a program without using a web browser?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> revenge: pidgin
[07:49] <KB1JWQ> revenge: bitlbee
[07:50] <revenge> ActionParsnip, which option lets u access aol chatrooms?
[07:50] <maco> revenge: set up an AIM account in pidgin then open a "New Chat"
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> revenge: not sure, i dont use aol. You may find you can list the rooms on the main window
[07:51] <souler> meh gotta go
[07:51] <souler> teacher wants me to work with photoshop =.=**
[07:51] <puff> lstarnes, Docteh, okay, so it looks like I was too hasty, X appears to still be running, but even setting the DISPLAY env variable isn't making it work.
[07:51] <dbugger> Hey gyus
[07:52] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[07:52] <noodleson> does merlin's revenge run with shockwave? and can shockwave be run in linux?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> noodleson: no shockwave is windows only
[07:52] <dbugger> Is there a way that empathy opens my chat window when I receive a message? Im missing MANY conversations, due to not proper notification!
 hey can you giv me any information about latest linux kernel version in ubuntu
[07:53] <noodleson> damn, so there is no workaround or something to play a shockwave game in linux?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> rafiq: theres a 2.6.32 but you dont need it if the current kernel you have is fine, newer isnt always better
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> noodleson: virtualbox but you'll need a windows license
[07:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, should firefox being giving me those spikes with my system??? I mean I am running a dual core
[07:54] <ZykoticK9> noodleson, you could research if shockwave works with ies4linux.
[07:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> posted my system info up top
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: how much ram do yu have?
[07:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> 2 gigs
[07:54] <eshannon> How do I take ownership of my new Hard Drive I install. I can not create folders or put files on it
[07:55] <U-b-u-n-t-u> see
[07:55] <rafiq> not for upgradation i need the documentation, particularly about schedulers can help me in any way
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: should be fine, have you tried renaming ~/.mozilla to test if its a bad profile?
[07:55] <U-b-u-n-t-u> <<< noob
[07:55] <noodleson> Zykotick9: yeah that may work, it's not that big of a deal. don't really care that much about shockwave online games
[07:55] <ZykoticK9> eshannon, "sudo chmod ugo+rwx /newdrivemountpoint"
[07:55] <revenge> KB1JWQ what is bittlebee
[07:55] <eshannon> ty
[07:56] <paipimenta_> hey folks, I want to install OS from iso without burning... anyone familiar with PXE or alternative?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: close all firefoxes and run: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old     then rerun the browser
not for upgradation i need the documentation, particularly about schedulers can help me in any way
[07:56] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, ok
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> rafiq: i dont delve that deep with kernels
[07:58] <syrius> how do you watch or decrypt drm videos in ubuntu?
[07:58] <kosmic> okay
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: is it better?
[07:59] <revenge> KB1JWQ, i installed bittlebee from synaptic but i cannot find it...where is it located?
[07:59] <kosmic> solved the sound problems they were caused by my unticking gdm fromt he service list. someone should make a note of this in the sound faq.
[07:59] <noodleson> found a petition to get shockwave on linux: http://tinyurl.com/4hbq43
[08:00] <KB1JWQ> revenge: Helps to spell it properly.
[08:00] <kosmic> "Disabling GDM kills sound!"
[08:00] <noodleson> there are about 36,000 signatures, but still no shockwave
[08:00] <KB1JWQ> noodleson: So what have you learned about the power of internet petitions?
[08:00] <KB1JWQ> !ot | noodleson
[08:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip,   mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old........... really seem to help?
[08:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> what does that mean?
[08:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> hehe
[08:00] <revenge> KB1JWQ, ok bitlebee
[08:01] <kosmic> oh wow what an annoying nickname
[08:01] <al__> whats the comand to either list system spcs or amount of ram?
[08:01] <vox> revenge: bitlbee
[08:01] <mneptok> KB1JWQ should stop being so logical: +1
[08:01] <mneptok> anyone else?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: its the folder that stores the settings and plugins for firefox, if it gets corrupted for some reason, the already bloated browser gos haywire
[08:01] <kosmic> noodleson, so what would happen if they went along with our petition
[08:01] <rafiq> ActionParsnip: ok is this version 2.6.32 has been implemented in any version of ubuntu...or which is the last kernel version impleented for ubuntu?
[08:01] <noodleson> petitions don't work.
[08:01] <ZykoticK9> al__, ram specs with "$ free"
[08:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, so should I uninstall opera too? and reinstall it?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: renaming it then rerunning it gives you a stock profile (but we only renamed so we can roll back)
[08:01] <revenge> KB1JWQ, ok i can spell it
[08:01] <noodleson> kosmic: we could play shockwave games on linux
[08:01] <mneptok> revenge: it's a CLI app
[08:02] <syrius> how do you watch drm  videos in ubuntu
[08:02] <syrius> ??
[08:02] <mneptok> revenge: do you use the terminal a lot?
[08:02] <kosmic> noodleson, oh i see.
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> rafiq: i only know the version exists. Ive seen debs around but i didnt install them
[08:02] <KB1JWQ> rafiq: For goodness's sake, dude!  2.6.32 isn't even stable yet!
[08:02] <al__> ZykoticK9: : nice. ta
[08:02] <revenge> mneptok, im sort of new but i like terminal
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: you can rename ~/.opera too to test that
[08:02] <Laque> My nvidia-settings is lacking 1600x1200, how can i specify it?
[08:02] <asia> al__,  you can use commands starting with ls like lsmod, lspci to get system specs ...
[08:02] <free_loader> does Ubuntu server reboot automatically after a server upgrade?
[08:03] <mneptok> revenge: bitlbee, IIRC, requires irssi. but i may well be wrong. i don't use bitlbee.
[08:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, is there anything else I should do now or?
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> syrius, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for possible answer
[08:03] <navap> Bitlbee just requires an irc client.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Laque: gksudo nvidia-settings           write the X config file, then edit the file manually to set the resolution you want
[08:03] <al__> asia: ok, will try them
[08:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, I mean to firefox
[08:03] <free_loader> HELP :  does Ubuntu server reboot automatically after a kernel update?
[08:03] <Laque> ActionParsnip: I'll try that
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Laque: its old school but works
[08:04] <mneptok> free_loader: NO, IT DOES NOT
[08:04] <al__> i only found out the other day you can start a command then hit tab tab for list of matching options
[08:04] <vox> free_loader: no
[08:04] <al__> thats the best newbie tip i have ever had
[08:04] <HektoR> hi all. guys please suggest any good soft to scan from printer to pdf. i tryied xsane but it can't attach 2 or more paper in to one pdf
[08:04] <abe3k> hi guys , I want to install ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop using usb, but the laptop has no option to boot from the flash memory, is there anything I can do to this problem, the laptop has windows xp on it now
[08:04] <asia> free_loader,  I don't think servers boot automatically after update
[08:04] <revenge> mneptok, i i can access it on irc, i am looking on how to do it
[08:04] <free_loader> mneptok : is there a way to turn off automatic kernel updates?
[08:04] <paipimenta_> al__: it also works with IRC nicks!
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> al__: great isnt it, thinng is you'll start doing it in emails and text files too, very amusing
[08:05] <mneptok> free_loader: pin the kernel packages
[08:05] <asia> free_loader, but you may try using ksplice to avoid rebooting after every kernel update
[08:05] <free_loader> thanks asia , vox but is there a way to turn off automatic server updates?
[08:05] <n8tuser> abe3k-> does the laptop have a cdrom?
[08:05] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: i do it with my wife. "today we need to TAB .... TAB ...." *blank stare*
[08:05] <abe3k> n8tuser : yes, but a bad one
[08:05] <nperry> Just wondering, would it be ok for example if i have one hdd mounted at / and another mounted at /home?
[08:05] <paipimenta_> well if no one knows about PXE, any way I can copy an .iso to a partition so I can boot into the installation?
[08:06] <paipimenta_> any install from iso hacks at all?
[08:06] <free_loader> asia ksplice? I'll look it up
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: hahaha, awesome
[08:06] <maco> mneptok: i do that too :)
[08:06] <vox> ksplice troubles me.
[08:06] <al__> ActionParsnip: hehhee, yeah I have already started doing it, wondering why the computer cant predict the word I am thingking of
[08:06] <mo0nykit> How do I set madwifi to auto-scan? Like in Windows' "Refresh network list?"
[08:06] <abe3k> n8tuser : I used my main desktop to create the usb from ubuntu
[08:06] <ZykoticK9> nperry, that's very common to do - it's a Good idea!
[08:06] <free_loader> mneptok : and how do I pin kernel packages?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> al__: xp does it in cmd.exe too :)
[08:06] <n8tuser> abe3k-> i have not thought about it too much...
[08:07] <asia> free_loader,     I read this article once.. it might help..http://linuxers.org/article/make-your-system-rebootless-using-ksplice
[08:07] <nperry> ZykoticK9: I know its best prctice to do with different partions not to sure if able to do different hdds
[08:07] <Laque> ActionParsnip: Also, the settings state that my NVidia 8400 card has 512MB of memory and that my onboard NVidia 8300 is using 512MB (taking some of my ram). Is it benefiting me that the onboard has VRAM? If not, how to i stop it from taking my RAM?
[08:07] <mneptok> free_loader: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[08:07] <ZykoticK9> nperry, even better with 2 HDs!
[08:07] <rashed2020> How is UbuntuOne closed source? Don't the devs refuse to include flash cuz it's not open sourced? Is it just me or am I sensing hypocrisy here?
[08:07] <abe3k> n8tuser : I tried using wubi but after booting process starts it gives my a busy box message and stops the boot
[08:07] <asia> vox, ya there are some problems with ksplice..
[08:08] <maco> rashed2020: the client, which is included, is open soruce
[08:08] <nperry> Just hope the /home hd doesn't die first :P
[08:08] <paipimenta_> nperry: LVM might be beneficial to you depending on what you're doing
[08:08] <al__> ActionParsnip:  yes but not quite with the same finese
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Laque: if you only want 1 dispay, disable the onboard.
[08:08] <maco> rashed2020: the server is not. this is similar to how you may use an open soruce twitter client like Gwibber but the Twitter server is still closed
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> al__: true as tab in ubuntu also completes the options
[08:09] <rafiq> kb1jwq: thanx for the info buddy...can i know the latest and stable kernel..
[08:09] <rashed2020> maco: Touche.
[08:09] <nperry> paipimenta_: I'm using at my desktop - I've been testing karmic out last couple of months but what i want to do with Lucid is be able to fresh install couple of weeks
[08:09] <KB1JWQ> rafiq: kernel.org
[08:09] <nperry> paipimenta_: So wo with /home i would have to make backups all the time. And it saves all my configs
[08:09] <Laque> ActionParsnip: well my motherboard supports hybrid SLI so they could very well be working together. I just want to know if they are in ubuntu, or if disabling the onboard would be better.
[08:09] <rafiq> kb1jwq:thank you
[08:10] <free_loader> mneptok asia thanks for that
[08:10] <KB1JWQ> rafiq: Ayup.
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Laque: well if you need the ram and the cad uses the system ram, disable it
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> s/cad/card
[08:10] <free_loader> mneptok asia I'll look it up. I'm running a server that randomly reboots and last just gives me a timestamp
[08:10] <nperry> paipimenta_: Would LVM be worth it for my type of setup :s
[08:10] <rashed2020> maco: But if Canonical is all about open source, then why have a closed source product?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> rashed2020: flash and nvidia drivers are proprietary too
[08:11] <asia> free_loader, I think there is something wrong with booting randomly.. you should probably check it up..
[08:11] <maco> rashed2020: *shrug* it's software-as-a-service
[08:11] <grturner> rashed2020, it's the same thing as redhat. use the freeloaders to test your stuff to make money on
[08:11] <rashed2020> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but they're not made by Canonical nor are they included in the default installation.
[08:11] <abe3k> guys , I want to install ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop using usb, but the laptop has no option to boot from the flash memory, is there anything I can do to this problem, the laptop has windows xp on it now, and I tried using wubi from the flash but after booting process starts it gives my a busy box message and stops the boot, I can boot from the cdrom and I can see the ubuntu desktop then the cdrom drive hangs there, the problem is from the drive because it can't
[08:11] <abe3k> read cds very good. any help is appreciated.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> rashed2020: but they are on canonical's servers
[08:12] <vox> free_loader: most likely a hardware issue
[08:12] <free_loader> asia: yep, doesn't make sense.. my hunch is that it could be kernel updates that are causing this
[08:12] <KB1JWQ> !unetbootin
[08:12] <free_loader> vox: hardware compatibility issue you mean?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> rashed2020: mixing in some proprietary stuff isnt a bad thing if it gets you doingwhat you need / want to do
[08:12] <vox> free_loader: no, defective hardware
[08:12] <asia> free_loader, check the syslogs before reboot.. they are a good way to track faults..
[08:12] <vox> free_loader: most likely ram
[08:12] <paipimenta_> hey folks, I want to install OS from iso without burning... anyone familiar with PXE or alternative?
[08:13] <rashed2020> Shame. I would have LOVED to run my own UbuntuOne server. I can totally see a few of the guys converting to Linux just to get an easy back up route.
[08:13] <Laque> ActionParsnip: amount of ram isn't really an issue, i just more want to find out if the onboard is doing anything
[08:13] <grturner> what are we arguing about over canonical anyways?
[08:13]  * free_loader thanks vox and asia profusely
[08:13] <rashed2020> grturner: We're talking about UbuntuOne.
[08:13] <KB1JWQ> paipimenta_: Yes.
[08:13] <KB1JWQ> !pxe
[08:13]  * free_loader for the help and keeping their nicks short!
[08:14] <grturner> isn't that the customized support that canon provides?
[08:14] <Flannel> rashed2020: I'm sure a FOSS version will be available soon, whether from Canonical or otherwise.  But this is somewhat offtopic, we can continue it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:14] <vox> free_loader: no ubuntu update will ever, ever, reboot any machine
[08:14] <maco> rashed2020: there is a free server for the same purpose, but i dont know the name top of my hea
[08:14] <free_loader> vox : that'w what I thought too
[08:14] <vox> free_loader: it may advise you that YOU need to reboot the machine, but that is all
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Laque: disable it and bootup, see what happens. You can always reboot and re-enable it
[08:14] <maco> rashed2020: maybe google for free open source dropbox? i saw sites comparing it to that
[08:14] <grturner> hah! canonical is selling a nfs home folder solution
[08:14] <Laque> ActionParnsip: that works =P
[08:15] <free_loader> vox : the thing is, it doesn't make sense that defective hardware may cause reboots either
[08:15] <free_loader> vox: besides, it's a fairly new server
[08:15] <vox> free_loader: age is irrelevant
[08:15] <rashed2020> maco, Flannel: They said they were gonna open source Launchpad when that first started. Nothing about that with UbuntuOne. And now I'm off to #ubuntu-offtopic so Flannel doesn't ban me :P
[08:16] <free_loader> vox : I wish I could find substantial documentation to support this statement of yours - " no ubuntu update will ever, ever, reboot any machine"
[08:16] <free_loader> vox : convincing my boss would have been easier :P
[08:17] <abe3k> free_loader : the updates require reboot but they don't automatically reboot the machiene
[08:17] <free_loader> abe3k vox : do you know if there's a file that controls auto reboot after kernel updates? maybe it's turned off by default but I'm sure some people will want automatic reboots
[08:18] <bigmack83_> i just installed ubuntu and started to use the 'screen' app and i get no UI in the cli window. so i cant press F9 for the menu and so on.
[08:18] <mneptok> rashed2020: write rsync scripts for your friends that use ssh
[08:18] <bigmack83_> pressing F9 just types the '~' character
[08:18] <grturner> bigmack83_, have you tried ctrl+c ?
[08:18] <al__> if i learn one little tip about linux everyday I will be happy
[08:19] <al__> I need like a linux tip of the day email
[08:19] <mneptok> free_loader: no update will cause a machine to reboot. i was a Senior Ubuntu Systems Support Analyst for Canonical. satisfied? :)
[08:19] <bigmack83_> grturner, that just enters the test '^C' into the line and returns to a new line
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> free_loader: imagine if it was a critica server and it randomly rebooted, not very practical
[08:20] <shadeslayer> bigmack83_: have you accidently booted into the rescue system?
[08:20] <free_loader> mneptok : haha, wish copy pasting this line was enough!
[08:20] <bigmack83_> shadearg, no im in normal desktop
[08:20] <free_loader> mneptok: but I am satisfied .. will look at the hardware for issues as vox suggested
[08:21] <stickyboy> What is the recommended way to start a script at boot (my own script, one that runs in the background)?
[08:21] <iceblock> howdee people
[08:21] <bigmack83_> i can still use the ^a commands, just no UI in the cli window. i ca make a new window, rename one (though you dont see any results), and move to next/previous windows and so on
[08:21] <shadeslayer> !startup | stickyboy
[08:21] <al__> how much memory does Ubuntu like?
[08:21] <al__> just for day to day stuff
[08:22] <shadeslayer> al__: 256 MB minimum
[08:22] <stickyboy> shadeslayer: Grrr.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> al__: 512Mb for Gnome+KDE, 256Mb for XFCE
[08:22] <stickyboy> !boot
[08:22] <al__> ok, i got 512, will 1gb make any diff?
[08:22] <shadeslayer> al__: not if you plan to use all of it
[08:22] <n8tuser> abe3k-> look into this    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> al__: depends what apps you wanna run. 1Gb is plenty
[08:22] <al__> admittandly i am running it on a crappy old laptop
[08:23] <al__> ActionParsnip:  mainly just browsing and VNC sessions
[08:23] <lovinglinux> Hi.  Like in Windows' "Refresh network list?"
[08:23] <free_loader> ActionParsnip : true, which is why, maybe it's turned off by default. but I will go by mneptok's expertise :)
[08:23] <jimbeam12> hey all wsup
[08:23] <shadeslayer> !madwifi > mo0nykit
[08:23] <shadeslayer> jimbeam12: hi
[08:23] <iceblock> god i love BUNTS!
[08:23] <al__> oh that was the other thingI wanted to know - when i do a ifconfig it doesnt list the dns servers? why not?
[08:23] <jimbeam12> hey shades
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> free_loader: linux is geared towards uptime ;)
[08:24] <grturner> mneptok, you WERE a senior system support analyst. what happened?
[08:24] <iceblock>  the client "PlayOnLinux is pretty neat!!!!
[08:24] <mneptok> grturner: i resigned and changed jobs.
[08:24] <grturner> awww... no fun
[08:24] <iceblock> how come my 5870 dosent work with 3d on ubuntu
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> al__: it does afaik, you can run: cat /etc/resolv.conf to see what DNS you are using
[08:24] <lovinglinux> I have deleted accidentally on purpose the .Trash folder from one of my data partitions. Now Nautilus goes crazy when trying to open the trash. Any ideas how to fix this?
[08:24] <shadeslayer> iceblock: nvidia card?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> iceblock: installed drivers?
[08:25] <shadeslayer> iceblock: run jockey in alt+f2
[08:25] <iceblock> sorry ATI Sapphire HD 5870 1Gb
[08:25] <grturner> lovinglinux, go into commandling and mkdir .Trash
[08:25] <kosmic> im looking at the services settings and there is one entry that im not sure what use it is
[08:25] <shadeslayer> iceblock: yeah,alt+F2 > jockey
[08:25] <bigmack83_> anyone know why the 'screen' app would have no gui in the terminal, but would otherwise work normally. but im not able to use any of the gui functions
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> iceblock: try: jockey-gtk    in alt+f2   failing that:
[08:26] <kosmic> `remote backup server (rsync) `
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> !ati | iceblock
[08:26] <kosmic> what is that ffor,
[08:26] <shadeslayer> bigmack83_: what screen app
[08:26] <al__> ActionParsnip: that file is essentially empty. wont my dns servers be dhcp'd from server?
[08:26] <bigmack83_> shadeslayer, 'screen'
[08:26] <Flannel> bigmack83_: screen doesn't have any GUI functionality
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> al__: should be, yes
[08:26] <bigmack83_> in the cli
[08:26] <al__> weird then
[08:26] <lovinglinux> grturner:  actually, the folder was Trash-0 or something. I did created the folder already, but the problem was even worse withput it.
[08:26] <abe3k> guys , I want to install ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop using usb, but the laptop has no option to boot from the flash memory, is there anything I can do to this problem, the laptop has windows xp on it now, and I tried using wubi from the flash but after booting process starts it gives my a busy box message and stops the boot, I can boot from the cdrom and I can see the ubuntu desktop then the cdrom drive hangs there, the problem is from the drive because it can't
[08:26] <abe3k> read cds very good. any help is appreciated.
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> al__: if not, manually populate the file with: nameserver <dnsIP here>
[08:27] <bigmack83_> Flannel, normally on the bottom theres small area that shows what screen you on, and your able to press F9 to get into a menu, i dont see those
[08:27] <lovinglinux> grturner:  so, I have a Trash-0 and a Trash-1000 folder
[08:27] <free_loader> ActionParsnip : I know and so I've known.. this is the first time and I'm perplexed
[08:27] <kosmic> abe3k, try the wubi installer that places ubuntu on the drive from within windos
[08:27] <iceblock> im in crossfire, will it still work?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[08:27] <Flannel> bigmack83_: The bottom area is a hardstatus line, that's a configuration thing.
[08:27] <al__> ActionParsnip: : is that a good idea? I could connect to a variety of networks depending on where i am.do I want to hard code the dns server?
[08:27] <lovinglinux> grturner:  I'm assuming those numbers are the user ID
[08:27] <shadeslayer> abe3k: you cant boot from USB if the system doesnt support it
[08:27] <Flannel> bigmack83_: Oh, you might be talking about screen-profiles?
[08:27] <bigmack83_> Flannel, ok so more just a fancy text border at the bottom than a gui, but yea
[08:27] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : it has no floppy x)
[08:27] <grturner> lovinglinux, i dont even have a .Trash or any similar in my home folder
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> al__: you can add many to the file, dhcp should add the addresses though via network manager
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !trash | grturner
[08:28] <bigmack83_> Flannel, i installed screen-profiles and screen-profiles-extras but theres still nothing. but yes thats what im talking about
[08:28] <Flannel> bigmack83_: I think screen-profiles has an f9 menu, screen certainly doesn't.
[08:28] <lovinglinux> grturner:  is not in the home,. is in another partition that I mount under home
[08:28] <al__> ActionParsnip: ahh. And what about resolving Netbios names, add them to host , hosts, or host.conf?
[08:28] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : if only there was a way todo this from a cd
[08:28] <al__> like over windows networks
[08:29] <shadeslayer> abe3k: theres a minimal CO
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: not sure, i'm sure there wil be a way
[08:29] <shadeslayer> *cd
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> al__: you could, makes name resolution faster
[08:29] <shadeslayer> abe3k: its basically a netinstall
[08:29] <bigmack83_> Flannel, well before i reinstalled when i just entered 'screen' everything showed up. now on a new install it doesnt
[08:29] <al__> ActionParsnip: my question was realy which filedo I enter them into?
[08:29] <grturner> lovinglinux, within my .Trash folder under ~/.local/share/Trash i also have two folders names 'files' and 'info' you may want to try making those folders as well
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> al__: hosts get added to /etc/hosts
[08:30] <al__> ok
[08:30] <al__> ActionParsnip: in my case I mst enter them into hosts because it is across a VPN, and netbios dont seem to work very well over vpn
[08:30] <lovinglinux> grturner:  I have those too.
[08:31] <bigmack83_> Flannel, any idea how i would get that hardline then? ive installed screen profiles but nothing and when i try googling it it just up with stuff related to the physical screen monitor
[08:31] <prince_jammys> bigmack83_: screen has an irc channel: #screen
[08:31] <Flannel> bigmack83_: well, if you want the f9 thing, then you'll have to get screen-profiles setup, which I know nothing about.
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> al__: true, you can add the remote DNS servers in you /etc/resolv.conf but if they use a static IP you may as well use the hosts file
[08:32] <grturner> lovinglinux, what are the permissions on those folders?
[08:32] <al__> ActionParsnip: nah that dont work properly either, becuase the remote network is a workgroup and doesnt have a proper DNS.
[08:32] <al__> best to hard code it in hosts file
[08:32] <bigmack83_> Flannel, i found it. apparently in karmic screen has absolutely no hardline, and to use it they renamed screen-profiles to 'byobu', so running 'byobu' instead of screen gets it
[08:32] <bigmack83_> prince_jammys, thanks
[08:33] <al__> why the heck does FF on my Ubuntu not display flash properly? I just get a grey @play@ type buton
[08:33] <al__> i have got flashinstalled
[08:33] <Screwyluie> I wonder if someone could help me out, total linux noob, fair warning
[08:33] <lovinglinux> grturner:  it seems that trash has something to do with the Windows partition and NTFS.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=402430 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1282123
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> al__: have you tried reinstalling flash? Make sure you dont have any gnash or swfdec installed
[08:33] <bigmack83_> Flannel, thanks
[08:33] <shadeslayer> al__: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:33] <qdb> hello
[08:33] <shadeslayer> qdb: hey
[08:33] <qdb> i see windows network in network:///
[08:34] <qdb> but cannot access to it
[08:34] <qdb> i want to access shared folder in windows
[08:34] <shadeslayer> !samba | qdb
[08:34] <Screwyluie> I tried installing ubuntu, it boots, I see the loading screen, but after the loading screen the screen goes black... after about 5 mins or so the computer shutsdown... any idea?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> al__: if you have more than one flash plugin installed, they conflict and you get nothing
[08:35] <al__> ActionParsnip: that could be my case
[08:35] <al__> how do I check?
[08:35] <qdb> thank you
[08:35] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: can you boot into the recovery system and see the o/p of dmesg | tail
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> al__: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> al__: you ONLY want flashplugin-nonfree installed
[08:35] <Screwyluie> I don't know what that means, I can get teh menu, and although I haven't tried it does have the option to drop to the shell, I would assume it works
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Screwyluie: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you run the CD self verifier?
[08:36] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: yes,drop to the shell and run : dmesg | tail : and look out for errors
[08:36] <lovinglinux> grturner:  thanks. I need to log off to log in into Windows and delete the stuff from there.cya
[08:37] <Screwyluie> shadesleyer: I will do that and then comback, is there something in particular I'm looking for? just errors? I'll see what I can find
[08:38] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : I'm doing some research and I think the network boot could help with installing ubuntu
[08:38] <Screwyluie> actionparsnip: I used Wubi to install, it does an md5 check if I read right
[08:38] <grturner> lovinglinux, np sorry i couldnt be more help
[08:38] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: thats a wubi install?
[08:38] <al__> looks like i got flashplugin-installer; libswfdec ; swfdec-mozilla
[08:39] <arpi> Sziasztok // Hello!
[08:39] <Screwyluie> yes it is
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Screwyluie: sure but did you md5 test the wubi.exe file?
[08:39] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: then there could be a more sinister problem...
[08:40] <Screwyluie> the wubi.exe doesn't come with an md5 hash, nor do I think an exe would run at all if it were missing bits
[08:40] <sarloth> This question may be insane, but does anyone know if there is any way to set which color depths are allowed in Xorg? Not simply the default, but all allowed color depths. (For example "Color Depth = 24, 16, 8")
[08:40] <Screwyluie> shadeslayer: any ideas?
[08:40] <Screwyluie> or should I do what you said first
[08:40] <lovinglinux> grturner:  actually, you did help. I opened Nautilus to check and realized the Trash-0 folder wasn't there anymore. I guess it disappeared after I re-installed Karmic. So I have recreated it and everythting is fine
[08:40] <kripz> what's with my dropped packets? http://pastebin.com/m85eb368
[08:41] <toomai> g'day to all
[08:41] <lovinglinux> grturner:  thanks again.
[08:41] <al__> ActionParsnip: does VLC have a flahs plugin? Can I just reinstall FF?
[08:41] <grturner> not a problem
[08:41] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[08:41] <toomai> I have a quesiton concerning external harddisk (usb) which are formated in ext3 and permissions...
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> al__: get rid of swfdec-mozilla and libswfdec
[08:42] <al__> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-install remove ?
[08:42] <lstarnes> al__: sudo apt-get remove swfdec-mozulla libswfdec
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> al__: sudo apt-get --purge remove <stuff>
[08:42] <toomai> I have a quesiton concerning external harddisk (usb) which are formated in ext3 and permissions...I have two users on my desktop (toomai and joe) and whenever I plug in that harddisk no one of those two can write on it (only root can). The permissions on the folder is correct, but they still cant
[08:43] <Screwyluie> shadeslayer: i read through that before installing and did what it said to do, although the install is pretty straight forward, I don't know that I could've gotten anything wrong... is there something in particular you're thinking?
[08:43] <bigmack83_> seems the screen-profiles package isnt available on ubuntu server either. trying to install them tell me package not found, only the basic 'screen' app
[08:43] <bigmack83_> Flannel, ^^
[08:43] <v_v> hello. anybody can tell me where to change the runlevel and save it , so the next reboot will enter another runlevel ? plz ??
[08:44] <toomai> with usb-thumbdrives it works, because it is vfat...so everyone can read and write....how can I do that for the / of the harddisk...so everyone can write new folders on it or mutate his own folders/files
[08:44] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: some h/w is not supported
[08:44] <sarloth> v_v: what runlevel are you trying to boot into, and why?
[08:44] <v_v> ubuntu is not familiar with me anymore. i don't know if it's away from the LSB
[08:44] <v_v> sarloth: i want a text muilti mode
[08:44] <Flannel> bigmack83_: What version of Ubuntu?
[08:44] <sarloth> v_v: runlevel would be controlled by grub, not ubuntu
[08:45] <v_v> sarloth: wow
[08:45] <Billiard> i accidentally removed myself from admin group on my fileserver, is there an easy way to boot in revovery mode with just a keyboard, so i dont have to install a graphics card and monitor?
[08:45] <bigmack83_> toomai, ubuntu should be installed on ext
[08:45] <v_v> sarloth: amazing
[08:45] <v_v> sarloth: i'v never heard about that
[08:45] <bigmack83_> Flannel, hardy 8.10
[08:46] <toomai> bigmack83_: it is...I just connect an usb external harddisk which is formated to ext3 on which root (/) I want everybody to be able to add new folders or mutate their own
[08:46] <Flannel> bigmack83_: 8.04 is Hardy, and screen-profiles didn't make the repos until 9.04 (Jaunty) it seems.
[08:46] <v_v> hello. anybody can tell me where to change the runlevel and save it , so the next reboot will enter another runlevel ? plz ??
[08:46] <Screwyluie> shadeslayer: yeah I'm aware of linux's hardware limitations.... I think all my stuff is ok, I checked what I could searching around on google and what not... I'll go check for errors see what I come up with
[08:46] <al__> ActionParsnip: thanks - that worked
[08:46] <bigmack83_> Flannel, oh yea my bad. not hardy. but it is 8.10
[08:46] <toomai> v_v: do you have a /etc/inittab?
[08:46] <v_v> toomai: no
[08:46] <toomai> v_v: oh...
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> al__: cool :)
[08:46] <Flannel> v_v: Which runlevel are you trying to enter?
[08:46] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: ok,but we can never be sure of whats causing this
[08:47] <v_v> toomai: i know inittab, the problem is , i don't know if ubuntu knows it
[08:47] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: ive gtg as of now.... cya later
[08:47] <al__> ActionParsnip: whats the SMART monitoring tool?
[08:47] <bigmack83_> toomai, well be careful because that may mean that users of windows that dont recognise linux permissions can write to system files and mess it up
[08:47] <v_v> Flannel: i don't know the number. i want  a muilti text mode
[08:47] <bigmack83_> Flannel, ah ok, thanks
[08:47] <rwat> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a mac mini - anyone know if it's possible to install using the DVI connection? My monitor just says "no signal". Was working a minute ago on snowleopard
[08:47] <toomai> bigmack83_: well, there are not windows-users...I work in linux only...and I will only use that external harddisk for backups