[11:35] <jayharu> IndyGunFreak: someone told me that amilo breaks easily?
[11:35] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: how would you offend someone?
[11:35] <mark[oz]> KalEl, no worries.. it should be fine.. just make sure you get the updates as they trickle through
[11:35] <jayharu> is this true?
[11:35] <jayharu> coz amilo looks cool...
[11:35] <jayharu> in terms of specs
[11:35] <mad_max02> FSC Amilo ?
[11:36] <jayharu> fujitsu siemens
[11:36] <jayharu> yes
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> only problem with the updates, is they routinely break, and lea eyou with an unstable system, and if you don't know hwo to fix them, you've got a command line system youd on't know how to use.
[11:36] <mad_max02> its a good series
[11:36] <KalEl> IndyGunFreak, not sure if someone was referring to my attitude... but i must let you guys know i very much appreciate what you are doing here - helping people like me who wouldn't be anywhere otherwise
[11:36] <mad_max02> I've got 2 Amilos
[11:36] <mad_max02> both work fine
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: i think he's drunk,i woudln't worry about it.
[11:36] <jayharu> i need toknow if its hardy?
[11:36] <jayharu> tough
[11:36] <KalEl> and i thank you all for that - so sorry if i unintentionally offended someone
[11:37] <mad_max02> jayharu, its good build. not perfect as toshiba but firm and comfort.
[11:37] <jayharu> and wont be an expensive paperweight
[11:37] <mark[oz]> KalEl, nah dude, not your attitude...
[11:37]  * IndyGunFreak loves expensive paperweights
[11:37] <jayharu> :((
[11:37] <mad_max02> jayharu, naah :D
[11:37] <holoduke> my suspend mode is not working well...  where can i find the logfiles to debug??
[11:37] <IndyGunFreak> KalEl: apparently he was referrign to mine, which id on't know how, but as you can see, i'm not really stressing about it.
[11:38] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: i bought a used compaq that works awesome w/ debian... i got it for like $100.
[11:38] <jussi01> !test
[11:38] <ubotwo> Fbiled.
[11:38] <jayharu> im in the ksa though...
[11:38] <jayharu> not in the us
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: thats what i was just noticing..
[11:39] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: well.. i can't find any real info on that laptop.
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: now this is strictly going off the ones available here in America.
[11:40] <encrypt3d> does anyone have any suggestions for a reboot problem in Gutsy.  I press the reboot button, and the screen hangs at the Ubuntu splash screen.
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: but i'm reading a pDF spec sheet, and it says they have Intel wireless.
[11:40] <jayharu> this is the spec for the amilo...
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> which is good.. cuz they usually work right out of te box
[11:40] <jayharu> processor type 	 Intel Core 2 Duo T7250
[11:40] <jayharu> processor speed 	 2.00 GHz
[11:40] <jayharu> L2 cache size 	 2 MB
[11:40] <jayharu> system memory 	 2 GB DDR2 RAM
[11:40] <jayharu> hard drive capacity 	 250 GB
[11:40] <jayharu> drives included 	 DVD Super Multi Double Layer
[11:41] <FloodBot1> jayharu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> sighs..
[11:41] <icesword_> hmmm
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> floodbot is evil!
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: that wasn't very bright
[11:42] <jayharu> sorry
[11:42] <jayharu> >_>
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> the color black is brighter than what you did
[11:42] <icesword_> l2 cache 2m,hmmm
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: what did you say the amilo model # was?
[11:42] <jayharu> Fujitsu Siemens AMILO XI 2428 Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 2.00 GHz
[11:43] <Bruce_> re
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: hang on looking
[11:45] <Bruce_> how can i set another port that the standart port for any irc server @ xchat ? :/
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: is this it...  http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Fujitsu-Siemens-Amilo-Xi2428-notebook.7329.0.html
[11:46] <zeger-jan> Bruce_ see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[11:46] <jayharu> checkin...
[11:46] <mirak> hello
[11:46] <pajamian> Bruce_: irc.example.com/1234
[11:46] <mirak> is there  a way to remove package marked as rc when you do a dpkg -l ?
[11:46] <Bruce_> i will read it ...
[11:47] <Starnestommy> Bruce_: put it in as irc.server.net/port
[11:47] <Bruce_> with the slash ?
[11:47] <Starnestommy> yes
[11:48] <Bruce_> thanks
[11:48] <jayharu> IndyGunFreak: the processor speed was different but i think its the same
[11:48] <Bruce_> lets have a try ....
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: ok.., well, looking at that... and agian, everything is relative to what i'm reading there.
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: but Ubuntu *should* be pretty easy to set up on it, it has intel wireless, and nvidia graphics.
[11:48] <jayharu> i see.
[11:48] <jayharu> thanks
[11:49] <steel_lady> is there some program to split audio files???
[11:49] <jayharu> errrr
[11:49] <jayharu> i remembered
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:49] <jayharu> hows the sound in amilo?
[11:49] <pajamian> steel_lady: split how?
[11:49] <magnetron> steel_lady: audacity
[11:49] <moralbehav> i have got a server, i read the useridr in /home/unixuser/public_html , in the /home i have got chmod 700 * ,the owner (only) can edit, read, execute you files
[11:49] <steel_lady> I want to cut out a refrain of one mp3 and have it as a separate file
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: it says the sound is a RealTek... so i'm *guessing* it probably works.
[11:50] <pajamian> steel_lady: audacity
[11:51] <kust3mz> Starnestommy: I put a diffrent monitor on and it froze up and did not say anything?
[11:51] <steel_lady> it says it can not install it because it depends on libraries that are not installable
[11:52] <KalEl> is there anywhere the messages during the booting process are stored automatically?
[11:52] <Starnestommy> KalEl: dmesg
[11:52] <greasy_leftwing> steel_lady: try wavbreaker maybe?
[11:52] <Starnestommy> kust3mz: I'm not sure exactly what is causing it
[11:52] <KalEl> wow thanks
[11:53] <greasy_leftwing> never used it myself tho
[11:54] <steel_lady> greasy, I am not finding it on synaptic
[11:54] <pajamian> steel_lady: what libraries does it list?
[11:54] <CJari> hey
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: what are you trying to install?
[11:55] <Bruce_> hmmm it didn't work correctly -.-
[11:55] <greasy_leftwing> she's after a program to split an audio file up
[11:55] <greasy_leftwing> it in my synaptic
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, and wy doesn't audacity work?
[11:56] <pajamian> IndyGunFreak: she can't install it
[11:56] <greasy_leftwing> uninstallable dependencies apparently
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> greasy_leftwing: that doesn't make any sense
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> greasy_leftwing: do you have synaptic open?
[11:56] <greasy_leftwing> yup
[11:56] <greasy_leftwing> got it right here
[11:56] <steel_lady> pajamian, IndyGunFreak,  http://pastebin.com/m6f19e9ff
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> hang on let me looka t that
[11:57] <greasy_leftwing> yer, I'm installing ti right now
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[11:57] <greasy_leftwing> works fine
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> i knew something wasn't right
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> greasy_leftwing: how were you tryign to install it?..
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> went into synaptic gui
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> did search for audacity
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> wait, who needs help, greasy, or steel_lady ?
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> selected it and marked apply
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> greasy_leftwing: right, that should work.
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> aye
[11:58] <greasy_leftwing> seems fine to me
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: did you need help with this?.. i think i was helping the wrong person
[11:58] <steel_lady> I need help Indy
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> ok, sorry
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> i've not had my morning tea yet...lol
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: open synaptic
[11:59] <steel_lady> indy did you see the pastebin?
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[11:59] <steel_lady> I am in synaptic
[11:59] <pajamian> steel_lady: looks like you have your repositories messed up or something
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: settings/repositories..
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: on the first tab, is everything checked?
[12:00] <steel_lady> yes it is indy
[12:00] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[12:00] <CJari> I installed proftpd after having succesfully installed apache server but I'm yet unable to connect to the server via ftp, is there some specific configuration I need to do?
[12:00] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: do a search for audacity
[12:00] <IndyGunFreak> in synaptic
[12:00] <steel_lady> ok indy I did
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> right click, mark for install, then apply
[12:01] <steel_lady> ok
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> does it look like its installing, or did you get errors again?
[12:01] <steel_lady> jumps out a window 'could not mark all packages for installation'
[12:02] <mr_magoo> hello
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, very strange, i just installed it, no problem
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: you're using gutsy, right?
[12:02] <pajamian> steel_lady: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:02] <jayharu> IndyGunFreak:can the ff software run on ubuntu with wine?
[12:02] <jayharu> manga studio ex 3
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> jayharu: ff software?.. whats that.
[12:02] <steel_lady> I have edgy
[12:02] <jayharu> ]comicworks
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, maybe that is the issue.
[12:02] <mr_magoo> anyone know how to get cinerella ?
[12:02] <jayharu> following...
[12:02] <steel_lady> I can nbot update edgy because of the lack of the partition space
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: that is probably your issue
[12:03] <bazhang> mr_magoo: cinelerra? just iinstall it
[12:03] <greasy_leftwing> thats whjat I was thinking
[12:03] <greasy_leftwing> might be worth updating
[12:03] <steel_lady> Indy, how and why? there is no version for edgy?
[12:03] <mr_magoo> im new to it how do i apt get it
[12:03] <Hobbsee> !ping
[12:03] <ubotwo> pong
[12:03] <fredmv> can I ask a _serious_ newb question?
[12:03] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install cinelerra mr_magoo
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: no, there's a version for edgy i'm sure, but i think the issue is, whatever repos its trying to access to get those files ar eclosed
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> !pm | jayharu
[12:04] <ubotwo> jayharu: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[12:04] <jayharu> sorry....
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·17:. «jayharu» as i was sayin...
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·27:. «jayharu» mangastudioex 3
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·32:. «jayharu» comicworks
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·43:. «jayharu» opencanvas
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·53:. «jayharu» illustrator
[12:04] <jayharu> .:15·04·57:. «jayharu» photoshop
[12:04] <FloodBot1> jayharu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> now thats gotta be a record
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> 2x, in less than 20min...lol
[12:04] <jayharu> TT_TT
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> you aren't very bright ar eyou?
[12:04] <steel_lady> Indy, so I have to add repos, no?
[12:04] <jayharu> im a slow typist....
[12:05] <muszek> hi... my network manager pretty much always connect to a wrong, unprotected network after I boot up... is there any way to make him connect to a specific network(s) only or at least to blacklist some other networks?
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: not really sure to be truthful, if you'll find one that works
[12:05] <jayharu> i am but i do use copy paste too often....
[12:05] <fredmv> if I change my uname via Sys->Admin->Usrs/Groups, how can I 'update' my /home/<usr> dir to reflect that?  is it as simple as renaming the dir?
[12:05] <muszek> fredmv: read the man page for adduser
[12:05]  * IndyGunFreak is reminded of that line from Tommy Boy, David Spade, By any chance did you eat pain chips as a kid.. Chris Farley..(laughs), "Why?"
[12:05] <mr_magoo> nah that doesnt work
[12:06] <fredmv> thanks muszek;  I figured that'd be wrong
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak,   You mean 'paint' chips? :)
[12:06] <mr_magoo> dont think cinerella is in the repository
[12:06] <muszek> fredmv: sorry, usermod (not adduser)
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> eh, i was laughing as i typed..sorry..lol
[12:06] <fredmv> No prob..
[12:06] <bazhang> mr_magoo: you got the name wrong
 Is anyone working on redesigning the wiki Revision history page? Its awful.
[12:06] <^u^> !info cinerella
[12:07] <ubotwo> Package cinerella does not exist in gutsy
[12:07] <bazhang> !info cinelerra
[12:07] <ubotwo> Package cinelerra does not exist in gutsy
[12:07] <legend2440> steel_lady:  try sudo aptitude update then sudo aptitude install audacity
[12:07] <icesword_> bazhang, hmm
[12:07] <tuntun> Is anyone working on redesigning the wiki Revision history page? Its awful.
[12:07] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: thats gonna be a pain in the ass to fix... have you considered backing up important files, and doing a clean install of Gutsy?
[12:07] <mr_magoo> E: Couldn't find package cinerella  thats what i seem to get
[12:08] <bazhang> http://cv.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php mr_magoo
[12:08] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=596160 mr_magoo
[12:08] <mark[oz]> mr_magoo, try add repositories
[12:08] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon.html mr_magoo
[12:09] <pajamian> goodnight everyone
[12:09] <icesword_> k
[12:09] <steel_lady> indy, no I didn't considered it because I have some provisional install of a program that is 13 years old and that I need for my doctorate tesis. the person whyo did it for me is dead and I can not repeat it
[12:10] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: provisional install?...
[12:10] <tuntun> Is anyone working on redesigning the wiki Revision history page? Its awful.
[12:10] <bazhang> tuntun join the ubuntu-users mailing list and suggest it
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: what program is it that is provisional?.. surely by now its final.
[12:11] <bazhang> !brainstorm | tuntun add you idea here
[12:11] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[12:11] <steel_lady> legend 2440 E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:11]  * IndyGunFreak thinks ubotwo is a bit more edgy than ubotu
[12:11] <amikrop> Greetings. How can I minimize Wesnoth?
[12:11] <bazhang> tuntun add your idea at brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[12:12] <mr_magoo> cheers guys it seems to be installing now
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> the best idea i heard today, was an idea for Tabbed Nautilus
[12:12] <legend2440> steel_lady: you can download it directly from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy-backports/i386/audacity/download
[12:12] <bazhang> amikrop: in hardy or gutsy?
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> legend2440: but she has a ton of unresolved dependencies, i don't think its gonna work, unless that .deb has all of those to
[12:13] <legend2440> steel_lady: but it will probably have a dependency problem
[12:13] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:13] <legend2440> IndyGunFreak:  yes
[12:13] <steel_lady> Indy it is wip package, I dubt you heard of it
[12:13] <steel_lady> legend, it didn't finish
[12:13] <amikrop> bazhang: gutsy
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> figured.
[12:14] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: what is the name of the program?
[12:14] <NitroX962> hello
[12:14] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, where do you live
[12:15] <steel_lady> WIP indt
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol, thats the second time today i've been asked that.. "Indy"GunFreak...lol, Indpls, INdiana
[12:15] <bazhang> amikrop: are you using compiz?
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: stil no joy i assume?
[12:16] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, pardon,i don't understand your question
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: nothing, it was a bad joke on my part, I live in Indpls, Indiana
[12:16] <amikrop> bazhang: yes
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, Earth
[12:16] <corza> how stable is 8.04a6 currently?
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> corza: probably even less stable than Windows
[12:16] <bazhang> amikrop: try disabling it and see if that works
[12:17] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, hmm.earth
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:17] <bazhang> corza that would be in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[12:17] <corza> o ic :)
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> icesword_: where are you?
[12:18] <icesword_> IndyGunFreak, hmm,China
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: what is that wip program, what does it do?
[12:18] <amikrop> bazhang: What works?
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> China?..
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> damn
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't think they let you on the internet
[12:18] <corza> how about 64-bit these days, its been a while since i've run ubuntu
[12:18] <bazhang> amikrop what game are you trying to run?
[12:18] <amikrop> bazhang: I want to know how to minimize Wesnoth.
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> i figured you were here int he states.
[12:19] <bazhang> amikrop: turn off and compiz and see if that works
[12:19] <bazhang> -and
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> !info wip | steel_lady does this look familiar?
[12:19] <amikrop> bazhang: Turning compiz off minimizes Wesnoth?!
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> well crap, ubotu is sleepin again
[12:19] <bazhang> amikrop: step one: turn off compiz
[12:19] <steel_lady> !info wip
[12:20] <amikrop> bazhang: ok. step 2?
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: ubotu is sleeping
[12:20] <karuna_bdc> how do you complie a program from source?
[12:20] <corza> are there a lot of compatible apps these days with the amd64 distro?
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> and ubotwo is clueless, as always
[12:20] <bazhang> amikrop: step two try to minimize wesnoth
[12:20] <amikrop> bazhang: how?
[12:20] <corza> or is it still not worth switching.
[12:20] <amikrop> That's what I want to know.
[12:20] <bazhang> amikrop: try to right click title bar
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58985/    thats the description of the version in the gutsy repos
[12:21] <steel_lady> Indy, wip is an old software package that plots graphs and other things over my astronomy images in .fits format
[12:21] <amikrop> bazhang: There is no title bar. The game is fullscreen.
[12:21] <karuna_bdc> can anyone tell me how to compile a linux program from source?
[12:22] <bazhang> amikrop: it can be run in windowed mode however check the settings
[12:22] <chrislees> karuna_bdc: What do the instructions of the program say?
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> karuna_bdc,  depends on the source. the normal '3 step' process is documented everywhere, --> ./configure, make, sudo make install.
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> the trick with source - is getting all the needed parts installed to compile the source. :)
[12:23] <^u^> and there is 20000+ progs in synaptic
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: unless your chuck norris
[12:23] <legend2440> steel_lady:  if you open synaptic and do search for audio editors maybe one of the other apps will do what you want
[12:23] <karuna_bdc> Dr_Willis: oh ok ill go read up on it
[12:23] <amikrop> bazhang: ok. thanks.
[12:23] <corza> AMD64 version of ubuntu: is it worth it these days?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> IndyGunFreak,  we all know chuck dosent need a computer. :) he just punches the internet.
[12:24] <greasy_leftwing> corza: what do you mean?
[12:24] <steel_lady> legend, in fact the problem is that I have the same problem in many situations and I am angry with linux for this
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_Willis: lol
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: did you read that pastebin i sent you?
[12:24] <bazhang> corza that is a matter of opinion; some feel it to be so others not
[12:24] <corza> greasy_leftwing: well the last time i tried it, was a few years ago, and it was basically useless back then because there was barely any apps supporting it.
[12:24] <greasy_leftwing> corza: seems fine to me
[12:25] <chrislees> Sorry Karuna, my wireless flaked out on me
[12:27] <Salvatrucha> hallo
[12:27] <ohp> ugh
[12:27] <corza> greasy_leftwing: never run into any troubles i'm guessing then?
[12:27] <ohp> what alternative is there to AMD/Inel
[12:27] <ohp> via processors?
[12:27] <corza> yeah via, but they're not very mainstream
[12:27] <greasy_leftwing> corza: theres bugs, obviously
[12:27] <ThaRabbit> sparc? powerpc?
[12:27] <chrislees> ohp: Via is a bit of a "low-power embedded" niche
[12:27] <corza> isn't powerpc dead?
[12:27] <ohp> yeah
[12:28] <greasy_leftwing> havent really gone full on to make it do anything useful yet tho
[12:28] <corza> lol then Cyrix remember them haha
[12:28] <ohp> and sparc pretty much
[12:28] <bazhang> no there are gutsy builds for both
[12:28] <chrislees> corza: PowerPC isn't dead, it's used in all three main gaming platforms ATM :-)
[12:28] <ohp> I just had another p4 burn out
[12:28] <sjoerd> corza: powerpc is very much alive, just not in the pc consumer market
[12:28] <sjoerd> ditto for sparc
[12:28] <ohp> I'm never buying intel or amd again
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: did you read that pastebin?
[12:28] <ohp> absolutely ridiculous
[12:28] <ThaRabbit> there's no real desktop alternative though :)
[12:28] <corza> chrislees: true, i forgot about that.
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> ohp: so what are you gonna buy?.. a mouse in a wheel?
[12:28] <ohp> yeah I don't care
[12:28] <ThaRabbit> though you can slap linux on a PS3 and go wild :P
[12:28] <corza> lol
[12:28] <ohp> in my view there is no desktop mainstream
[12:28] <bazhang> !ot
[12:28] <ubotwo> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:28] <chrislees> ohp: Intel has come a long way since the P4, and I think you're limited for x86-compatible processors
[12:28] <archman> bazhang, how to manually setup ip address here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58987/
[12:28] <ohp> intel and amd are jokes
[12:28] <greasy_leftwing> :]
[12:29] <corza> i'm not sure that they're jokes
[12:29] <corza> considering the power 99% of the desktop computers in this world
[12:29] <ohp> "moore's law" still exists only if you count processors that burn out in 6 mos
[12:29] <ohp> yeah
[12:29] <ohp> 99% of my computers have up and died
[12:29] <bazhang> corza and ohp #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:29] <ohp> nothing strange or anything about them like wacky cooling
[12:30] <sofiankr1> I want to prevent Oracle XE from starting at bootup, how can I do that?
[12:31] <steel_lady> yes indy, I know what is wip because I am using it
[12:31] <sofiankr1> it is not there in Sessions
[12:31] <bazhang> archman that seems self evident; have you read this thread:--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> steel_lady: no, that wasn't my question, there is a version of Wip int he gutsy repos(so it should be esay to instlal is my point), and that pastebin i sent you, is how its described, just making sure i twas the same program..
[12:32] <^u^> sofiankr1, is it listed in /etc/rc2.d?
[12:32] <sofiankr1> ^u^: I'll check...
[12:33] <archman> bazhang: please see if this should work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58989/
[12:33] <icesword> just change S* to s*
[12:33] <sofiankr1> ^u^: yes it is
[12:34] <^u^> sofiankr1, If it starts with an S then you need to rename it to start with a K
[12:34] <icesword> sofiankr1, S means start that service
[12:34] <bazhang> archman that is might odd syntax; you got it working like that?
[12:35] <archman> bazhang: no, so i'm asking if something's wrong
[12:35] <icesword> ^u^, why K,what about k
[12:35] <archman> bazhang: how to setup prompt?
[12:35] <icesword> ^u^, why K,what about s
[12:35] <^u^> sofiankr1, S for start - K for Kill or not start
[12:35] <bazhang> archman I am guessing you did not read that link, correct?
[12:35] <steel_lady> indy, it is too much risk for me. I have a work day from 8 in the morning till almost 10 in the evening and the only free day is sunday. I don't wont to ruin my sunday and end up without al that I have. and also I neet to have my sunday for more that struggling with linux the whole day. this is the bad thing of linux. when I am finally at home 1 day of the week, I need to use my private computer for my thesis and my private corresp
[12:35] <steel_lady> ondence and not to spend my days without rest to become an informatic!
[12:35] <v3ctor> you should not change it to 's' or 'k', you should change it to 'X'
[12:36] <archman> bazhang: it holds on dhclient
[12:36] <v3ctor> you don't want it to start or kill...you just don't want it to work
[12:36] <archman> bazhang: sorry; i've been a lazy ass....
[12:36] <archman> bazhang: sry
[12:36] <icesword> v3ctor, ?
[12:36] <icesword> v3ctor, why X
[12:36] <iR`> hello
[12:36] <v3ctor> so you can easily find it if you want to change it back
[12:36] <icesword> v3ctor, why  delete that symbol link
[12:37] <icesword> ohhh
[12:37] <icesword> see
[12:37] <v3ctor> icesword: that would be the best solution if he never needds it again ;)
[12:37] <bazhang> archman that is a very clear guide--getting wireless to work requires a bit of reading/prep beforehand;I'll be happy to answer questions, but you should help me help you and inform yourself a bit first
[12:37] <mustafa> Hi guys.... I just installed kubuntu on my Asus F3E notebook. but the blue keys don't work probably... can anybody help me
[12:37] <archman> bazhang, true !
[12:37] <archman> bazhang ;-)
[12:38] <sofiankr1> ^u^: thank you very much!
[12:38] <bazhang> mustafa: the blue keys are the fn keys or what
[12:38] <sofiankr1> icesword: thanks!
[12:38] <iR`> I have a question regarding sound... i have an integrated realtek sound card that allows me to choose what kind of a divice is plugged into the jack (for example i can plug a speakear into the microphone jack and assign that jack audio output) ... in ubuntu 7.10, i can only get 2.1 sound ... any way to assign output to a microphone jack on a chipset that supports it?
[12:38] <icesword> k
[12:38] <bazhang> be back in second
[12:38] <mustafa> yes.. they are the fn keys
[12:39] <icesword> what is blue key
[12:40] <mustafa> also the kmix doesn't work probably
[12:41] <icesword> no sound?
[12:41] <gaE4> hi, i am new to ubuntu, and my question is, whats the difference at synaptic package manager between removal and complete removal
[12:42] <icesword> hmm
[12:42] <Starnestommy> gaE4: complete removal removes all the files installed by it, including old config files.  A regular removal just removes the programs
[12:42] <DRebellion> gaE4, normal removal will keep configs and other such files in case you reinstall later
[12:42] <gaE4> ah, ty
[12:44] <archman> bazhang: where to ask questions about networking?
[12:44] <iR`> icesword: i dont get sound from rear speakers and center speaker
[12:44] <iR`> this is weird because the subwoofer and center seakear are on the same jack
[12:45] <iR`> but that might be just a mixer problem
[12:45] <iR`> however, i dont know what to do about the "mic" in labeled jack which has jack sensing and i have the rear speakers plugged into it
[12:45] <iR`> dont hear them.
[12:45] <icesword> iR`, try to turn that up ,as high as possible
[12:45] <astheo> hi, anyone here using wget download manager? how do i make wget autodetect all files i will download?
[12:46] <icesword> ! download tools
[12:46] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[12:46] <icesword> ohhh
[12:46] <icesword> you bot
[12:46] <iR`> icesword: i did try that
[12:46] <Starnestommy> you had an extra space
[12:46] <^u^> icesword, no space after !
[12:47] <iR`> i went into alsa mixer
[12:47] <iR`> and pumped everything up, no change for the speakers
[12:47] <icesword> hmm
[12:47] <iR`> they werent muted either
[12:47] <icesword> ok
[12:47] <iR`> but
[12:47] <iR`> at the far most of the alsa mixer
[12:47] <ThaRabbit> !download tools
[12:47] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[12:47] <icesword> hoho
[12:47] <iR`> i have 2 tabs without the volume sliders
[12:47] <iR`> and i can toggle them
[12:47] <iR`> mic /line-in and another thing (spdif maybe)
[12:47] <iR`> however, even togling them doesnt make any difference
[12:48] <kreker> hi)
[12:48] <icesword> iR`, don't worry,did see hardwareinfo,is your soundcard been recognized
[12:49] <microwaver> Hello people.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> People? Thers people here? Egads!
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:50] <icesword> microwaver, hmm,i like
[12:50] <microwaver> haha,
[12:50] <microwaver> You perhaps already see it comming, a total ubuntu noob who's searching for help using xchat
[12:50] <icesword> mm
[12:51] <bazhang> archman right here
[12:51] <iR`> icesword: yes, it is reconized
[12:51] <iR`> recognized*
[12:51] <icesword> hmmm
[12:51] <iR`> ALC883 on an nvidia motherboard
[12:51] <microwaver> Someone who want to help a linex newbie?
[12:51] <fredmv> Alright, I have a _dumb_ problem..
[12:51] <iR`> and it works, i do hear sound from front left and right and subwoofer
[12:52] <iR`> just need to get center and rear left and rear right working
[12:52] <iR`> however
[12:52] <icesword> iR`, you got sound,ok
[12:52] <iR`> they are plugged into what would otherwise be microphone jack
[12:52] <bazhang> iR`: easy on the enter key please
[12:52] <fredmv> I modified my username via System->Admin->Users/Groups, but I didn't update my home dir.  Now when logging in, everything is broke because it's looking in the old /home dir...
[12:52] <microwaver> Got two problems actually :-)
[12:52] <Dylan69> hi
[12:52] <iR`> but with jack allocation (windows software driver) they have speakers set to it
[12:52] <Dylan69> !list
[12:52] <ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:52] <fredmv> So now, as suggested, I'm trying to use usermod, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything.
[12:53] <fredmv> I ran: # usermod -d /home/fredmv fredmv which should be the proper command.   The dir is still 'fmv'.
[12:53] <bazhang> fredmv what are you trying to accomplish
[12:53] <icesword> ubotu, who is ubotwo
[12:53] <fredmv> bazhang, basically just changing my username and accordingly changing my home dir.
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I dont recall ever useing usermod :)
[12:53] <icesword> hmm
[12:54] <v3ctor> fredmv: you will need to rename the dir
[12:54] <icesword> ! ubotwo
[12:54] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[12:54] <bazhang> heh
[12:54] <fredmv> Dr_Willis, yeah, I should've just done it via GUI, but I didn't, and now I can't even get in.
[12:54] <met_> what am I doing here? :(
[12:54] <fredmv> v3ctor, can't do that.
[12:54] <v3ctor> yes you can
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> fredmv,  Hmm. ive never even noticed that command befor. :)
[12:54] <keiserr> hi, is there a ubuntu CD or DVD prepacked with xen and apache, mysql, php, vsftpd and sshd?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> heh - thers some warnings at the end of the 'usermod' man page.
[12:55] <Dr_Willis>  usermod will not allow you to change the name of a user who is logged in.
[12:55] <icesword> hooo,i cannot get the trigger
[12:55] <microwaver> Is there someone who can help me? I have a problem mounting my external HDD. USB stick works fine and all, but he gives problems with my external hdd
[12:55] <jubu> help with gdesklets here///
[12:55] <jubu> plz...
[12:55] <bazhang> so chroot in from a livecd and do it that way?
[12:55] <v3ctor> fredmv: you can't log in at all? this is the only account on the system?
[12:55] <fredmv> Dr_Willis, yeah, I'm doing this all at root.
[12:55] <jubu> HELP WITH GDESKLETS....
[12:55] <icesword> ....
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> jubu,  you could state an actual question concerning the topic..
[12:56] <icesword> ! caps
[12:56] <bazhang> caps jubu
[12:56] <^u^> jubu, what's up?
[12:56] <ubotwo> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:56] <microwaver> just pm me if you think you can help me.
[12:56] <jubu> i can't run gdesklets...
[12:56] <fredmv> v3ctor, I'm logged in as root trying to make these changes.   If I try editing the /home dir as you suggest, it gives me an error.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  summarize the problem. :)
[12:56] <bazhang> jubu so we guessed ;]
[12:56] <jubu> i have already installed it..
[12:56] <^u^> jubu, what did you d/load for it?
[12:57] <geert_> Dear ubuntu people, when I click xsane to scan an image, it says "detecting scanners", then the window vanishes. xsane as a progress is still active and lsusb shows the name of my scanner. I'm running ubuntu gutsy. What could I do to fix this?
[12:57] <v3ctor> fredmv: what command are you trying to run? you should be able to run: mv /home/fmv /home/fredmv
[12:57] <fredmv> v3ctor, so if I log in, it's trying to access stuff from /home/<old usr> and GNOME crashes.
[12:57] <jubu> for the desklets like system monitoring. hdd space..
[12:57] <^u^> jubu, there's two parts - gdesklets and data
[12:57] <jubu> ect//
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> fredmv,  you could link /home/OLDDIR to point at the /home/newdir :)
[12:57] <fredmv> v3ctor, I'm working with usermod.   Perhaps I could do something like adduser, make a new account, and then do it via GUI (newb solution)
[12:58] <^u^> jubu, if you type   gdesklets    in a terminal what happens?
[12:58] <jubu> cant work it out, after clicking the app icon, its juz blank dat appears
[12:58] <v3ctor> fredmv: usermod can't do what you want
[12:58] <microwaver> it's just so. If you plug in my mobile hdd from _digiconnect he gives me an error 'unable to mount', and in details it says 'i didn't disconnect it properly'
[12:58] <w0ng> join #ubuntu-au
[12:58] <w0ng> typo*
[12:58] <v3ctor> fredmv: the user has already been modified
[12:58] <fredmv> v3ctor, so what should I do?    Try mv'ing it?
[12:58] <macnus> Hi. Im running ubuntu 7.10 on my macbook, so i have mounted my mac os partition in ubuntu (/media/mac). When i use mount -l in the terminal, it tells me that the mac partition is mountet, and its rw, but i cant write files to the partition. Can someone tell me why, and what to do? thanks
[12:58] <v3ctor> fredmv: your problem is that the directory has the wrong name
[12:58] <jubu> one user said to me that i need to add visual effects, os i've added but still it wont work?
[12:58] <v3ctor> fredmv: mv /home/fmv /home/fredmv
[12:59] <fredmv> v3ctor,  exactly
[12:59] <^u^> jubu, you don't need "visual effects"
[12:59] <fredmv> trying right now
[12:59] <ryan_combs> i need to shrink some videos does anybody have any suggestions on what to use
[12:59] <jubu> ok.
[12:59] <jubu> so wat do i need to get it running...
[12:59] <macnus> Can someone help me?
[12:59] <bazhang> jubu for compiz use screenlets
[13:00] <jubu> is der an object dock in screenlets?
[13:00] <jubu> still a noob in compiz..
[13:00] <^u^> jubu, again - what happens when you type   gdesklets in a terminal
[13:00] <microwaver> it says to do ' mount -t ntfs-39 /dev/sde1 /media/EXTERN -o force' in linux
[13:00] <jubu> how do i set it up?
[13:00] <bazhang> www.screenlets.org jubu
[13:00] <ryan_combs> macnus, what do you need
[13:00] <legend2440> macnus:  did you check the permissions for the dir mac?
[13:00] <jubu> no, i juz click the icon, and the gdesklets shell appaers but blank...
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  Interesting. - You may want to try to mount the thing manually.  With  the ntfs-3g Stuff. it defaults to a SAFE mode. where it will not mount a windows fileystem. IF that filkesystem has been removed uncleanly/flagged as needing scanned.
[13:00] <macnus> ryan_combs: Im running ubuntu 7.10 on my macbook, so i have mounted my mac os partition in ubuntu (/media/mac). When i use mount -l in the terminal, it tells me that the mac partition is mountet, and its rw, but i cant write files to the partition. Can someone tell me why, and what to do? thanks
[13:01] <bazhang> heh jubu you are just not listening to people
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  the 'fix' is to plug it into a windows machine and have windows scan the disk/fix errors. (is one fix at least)
[13:01] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, so I can't check / fix it in Ubuntu?
[13:01] <fredmv> v3ctor,  _thank you_ very much.  I would've never thought to 'mv' it.   Worked perfectly.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  be sure to use the 'safely remove' thing in windows - befor removing it.
[13:01] <ryan_combs> macnus, i dont think i can help you sorry
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  you can.. but its considered more risky
[13:01] <linuxius> hello! is there anyone who can help me with an NVIDIA problem?
[13:01] <v3ctor> fredmv: no problem, tis what we are here for
[13:02] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, Yeah, I read that.
[13:02] <^u^> bazhang, he installed gdesklets but not gdesklets-data
[13:02] <macnus> ryan_combs: Well Thanks anyway ;)
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  thers some ntfs tools, that can scan/fix the thing.. but some times they dont work.
[13:02] <legend2440> macnus:  did you check the permissions for the dir mac?
[13:02] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, So I should reboot, go to windows, check for errors, remove safely, and then It would be working ok in ubuntu
[13:02] <bazhang> ^u^: aye but he refuses to listen
[13:02] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: what's the problem :)
[13:02] <jubu> yah...
[13:02] <ryan_combs> i need to shrink some videos does anybody have any suggestions on what to use
[13:02] <jubu> gdeskltes only
[13:02] <^u^> bazhang, that's why I palmed it off to you :)
[13:03] <bazhang> ^u^: hehe not so fast..
[13:03] <jubu> coz i needed to run the object dock and system info on the screen
[13:03] <DRebellion> ryan_combs, mencoder
[13:03] <MistaED> hey all.... need an expert on drive speeds :O
[13:03] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, I'll try that.
[13:03] <jubu> ^u^ wat should i do?
[13:03] <macnus> legend2440: Yeah. Its only root, that has acces. How does my user get acces?
[13:03] <bazhang> MistaED: the experts are on holiday; you're stuck with us
[13:03] <microwaver> Dr_Willis, see you in a bit opr so :)
[13:03] <ThaRabbit> drive speeds :) ? specifics please?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> microwaver,  that would be the easiest way..  You could just leave it pluged in. :)
[13:04] <ryan_combs> DRebellion, im not so good with command lines
[13:04] <^u^> jubu, listen to people
[13:04] <^u^> jubu, scroll up
[13:04] <ryan_combs> DRebellion, i need something graphical
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> ryan_combs,  that avidmux tool is handy
[13:04] <bazhang> jubu use your scroll key
[13:04] <gaE4> where can i find a list of all installed applications? if i go Applications -> Add/Remove... there isnt everything
[13:04] <jubu> yup..den wat? @ ^u^
[13:04] <MistaED> see, i have a fairly old laptop and i have no idea how fast the drive inside should get to, it's a 6gb hitachi thing, and the mobo looks like it uses a 440BX so intel piix, capable of UDMA2 (i think this is 66?)
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  use the synaptic package manager tool.
[13:05] <MistaED> bazhang, hehe
[13:05] <^u^> jubu, install gdesklets-data
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  that add/remove is a 'lite' :) version sort of..
[13:05] <linuxius> my problem: when I start up the laptop with the vesa driver (Dell INSPIRON 8200, GeForce 4 440 Go), then everything works fine. resolution is low though. I can then copy the xorg.conf with the "nvidia" driver and restart the xserver. that works. but when I start up the system with the "nvidia" configuration the system crashes (lockup or mysterious signs all across the screen...)
[13:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone | gaE4
[13:05] <bazhang> gaE4: try dpkg -l in the terminal
[13:05] <ubotwo> gaE4: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:05] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis, how do you shrink in that i thought you could only convert formats
[13:05] <keiserr> hi where can i download older versions of ubuntu? searching for feisty
[13:05] <DRebellion> gaE4, apt-cache pkgnames
[13:05] <legend2440> macnus: sudo nautilus browse to /media/mac change owner and group fields to your user name and check boxes for rw
[13:05] <gaE4> omg^
[13:05] <gaE4> ty
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> ryan_combs,  define 'shrink' then... how are you going to shrink it otherwise? You want to zip the thing?
[13:05] <MistaED> the speeds i get with hdparm are 75mb/s cache, 4-8mb/s buffer, not sure if that's the fastest it can get
[13:05] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: you've tried the restricted driver :) ?
[13:05] <MistaED> but yeah, no idea as it's old tech
[13:06] <jubu> ok then whats next? @ ^u^
[13:06] <bazhang> linuxius: you may need the legacy driver for such an older card
[13:06] <linuxius> do you mean the legacy?
[13:06] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis, no just make it a smaller file
[13:06] <linuxius> I have already installed envy with the 96xx series....
[13:06] <^u^> jubu, go to apps in the menu - find gdesklets and click it - what happens?
[13:06] <bazhang> uh oh envy linuxius
[13:06] <archman> is there any ip finder program; i want to find targets ip....
[13:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[13:06] <ubotwo> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> ryan_combs,  and how do you plan on making a 5 gb video (or whatever) smaller?  theres a lot of data..   what do you plan on doing with the thing ?
[13:06] <linuxius> I know...
[13:06] <DRebellion> archman, nmap?
[13:07] <MistaED> tried the usual stuff like enabling dma and all those other tweaks but it denies those as it uses some other driver i think, libata?
[13:07] <DRebellion> Dr_Willis, ryan_combs, just reencode it with a smaller resolution
[13:07] <linuxius> the system work when I restart the xserver after startup, why only then?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> ryan_combs,  other then converting it to some other better compression format, or reducing  somthing on the video..   Im not sure what you really want. :)
[13:07] <jubu> all i see is the gdesklets shell as blank
[13:07] <bazhang> is today no reading links day?
[13:07] <archman> DRebellion: it can sniff ip's?
[13:07] <legend2440> macnus: actually gksudo nautilus is better because nautilus is GUI
[13:07] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis, its only 700 mb
[13:07] <DRebellion> archman, what exacty are you trying to do?
[13:07] <jubu> all i see is the gdesklets shell as blank
[13:07] <cminion> when i run games like warzone2100 or UFO: alien invasion i often experience the game screen up or down making the windowmanager fill out half of the screen and the game the other half (unscaled). I suppose it has something do to with window control in Gnome.. but i don't know how to fix this issue.
[13:08] <jubu> after awhile and its gone...
[13:08] <jubu> after awhile and its gone...
[13:08] <bazhang> jubu you need to install the data
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxius, You say you know, it says Unsupported and use at your own risk, yet you are still asking for support..
[13:08] <archman> DRebellion, trying to get target's ip; i have his mac.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> I tend to 'convert' my videos for my portable player all the time with avidmux. :) 320x240 - saves a lot of space. heh.. and looks bad on other things then the portable player.
[13:08] <jubu> yup i've ready installed the data...
[13:08] <macnus> legend2440: I just get this message, when trying to change the owner: Couldn't change the owner of "mac" because it is on a read-only disk
[13:08] <jubu> apt-get install gdesklets-data
[13:08] <DRebellion> archman, is he on the same network?
[13:08] <^u^> jubu, what ubuntu version are you on?
[13:08] <archman> DRebellion: yes
[13:09] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis,  okey ill try that
[13:09] <linuxius> well the problem didn't change, it was the same before I used envy ;-)
[13:09] <bazhang> jubu type gdesklets in the terminal then
[13:09] <ryan_combs> Dr_Willis, thanks
[13:09] <DRebellion> archman, yars what's your ip address?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> cminion,  if you think its a gnome issue - you could install some other window manager, like fluxbox, and try running the game in it.
[13:09] <jubu> 7.10 Gutsy 64bit
[13:09] <kreker> J
[13:09] <^u^> jubu, always   sudo apt-get instal ...
[13:09] <archman> DRebellion: why do you ask?
[13:09] <linuxius> it's annoying to always restart the xserver with a different xorg.conf after startup...
[13:09] <legend2440> macnus: what exactlyare you mounting? a flash drive or hard drive?
[13:09] <^u^> jubu, 64bit doesn't work well - gdesklets is 32bit - you're os is wrong for the app
[13:10] <DRebellion> archman, so i can give you the nmap command to scan the network
[13:10] <archman> DRebellion: <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:10] <macnus> Its a partition on my harddrive (dev/sda2)
[13:10] <DASPRiD> iter, \o/
[13:10] <jubu> oic. ok then what app should i use in replace of gdesklet??
[13:10] <DRebellion> archman, sudo apt-get install nmap && sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1-255
[13:10] <DASPRiD> after a week, the 699GiGs are finally crypted \o/
[13:10] <macnus> legend2440: Its a partition on my harddrive (dev/sda2)
[13:10] <^u^> jubu, 32bit ubuntu
[13:10] <erUSUL> !yay | DASPRiD
[13:10] <ubotwo> DASPRiD: Glad you made it! :-)
[13:11] <DRebellion> archman, then look for the mac address ( or grep it if you want)
[13:11] <DASPRiD> DRebellion, use screenelets
[13:11] <^u^> jubu, not many apps are written for 64bit
[13:11] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: applying the changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf should make sure  starts with the right config :)
[13:11] <DASPRiD> (require compiz)
[13:11] <bazhang> jubu either reinstall 32bit for gdesklets or find another program
[13:11] <legend2440> macnus: is it formatted ext3? or some other filesystem?
[13:11] <jubu> i cant work the 32bit ubuntu on my PC, since i'm using processor of AMD Dual Core 64-bit
[13:11] <DRebellion> DASPRiD, ???
[13:11] <ryanzec> my sound is working on my laptop but when i plug in my headphone, sound it still coming from laptop speakers, i am running ubuntu 7.10 64-bit, anyone know what might help?
[13:11] <archman> DRebellion: thanks ! Card has to be in monitor mode, or?
[13:11] <geert_> Could anybody help me getting a ScanJet 5300 to work?
[13:11] <macnus> legend2440: It is NFS+
[13:11] <DASPRiD> DRebellion,
[13:11] <jubu> i get error everytime i install 32bit ubuntu
[13:11] <DRebellion> archman, no just normal mode will do
[13:11] <DASPRiD> !google screenelts
[13:11] <linuxius> ThaRabbit, what do you mean by that?
[13:11] <ubotwo> DASPRiD: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:11] <^u^> jubu, 32bit will work well on that processor
[13:11] <DASPRiD> :(
[13:12] <archman> DRebellion: thanks for the help, mate ! ;-)
[13:12] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: well, you say you have to restart X after each reboot with a new xorg.conf file
[13:12] <jubu> i get an error in installation...
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, wHEN YOU INSTALL THE 32BIT OS OR A 32 BIT APP?
[13:12] <DRebellion> Jack_Sparrow, :O
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry for the caps lcok
[13:12] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: the main config file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:12] <bazhang> ThaRabbit: this is with envy
[13:12] <DASPRiD> jack-desktop, fix your shift key
[13:12] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: ah, eny... it's a geforce 440 right?
[13:12] <jubu> 32bit app
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> DASPRiD, Got it
[13:12] <linuxius> yes, where "nvidia" is the driver, before shutdown, i have to copy an xorg.conf with "vesa" as the driver...
[13:13] <linuxius> yes
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> DASPRiD, Do you have a quick way to disable it completely?
[13:13] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: try "nv" as driver :)
[13:13] <DASPRiD> Jack_Sparrow, take a knife and get it out :)
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[13:13] <linuxius> I already tried that, it stays the same, except that I don't have 3D support...
[13:13] <atoponce> i assume that adding icons such as Trash to my desktop mean editing value in gconf-editor. anyone know where i can find those keys/values?
[13:13] <osotogari> hi im trying to enable remote desktop on my desktop box here and connect to it via my laptop, I enabled it through ubuntu's remote desktop utility and when i try to connect i get a timeout error
[13:13] <legend2440> macnus:  what happens if you try sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/mac?
[13:14] <ryanzec> my sound is working on my laptop but when i plug in my headphone, sound it still coming from laptop speakers, i am running ubuntu 7.10 64-bit, anyone know what might help?
[13:14] <linuxius> does this anything have to do with CPU?
[13:14] <jubu> is screenlet 32bit app???
[13:14] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: and you've tried the restricted driver?
[13:14] <DASPRiD> jubu, both
[13:14] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: via the restricted driver manager... not via envy
[13:14] <greasy_leftwing> is there some issue I'm unaware of concerning adobe flash player in firefox?
[13:14] <DASPRiD> jubu, and fix your questionmark-key :P
[13:14] <macnus> legend2440: It gives me this message: mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /media/mac busy
[13:14] <macnus> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/mac
[13:15] <jubu> ok
[13:15] <linuxius> which is under system/settings...
[13:15] <linuxius> ?
[13:15] <ryanzec> greasy_leftwing, are you ruuning 64-bit?
[13:15] <greasy_leftwing> ryanzec: yes
[13:15] <jubu> so i can use screenlets in replace with gdesklets
[13:15] <DASPRiD> jubu, yes
[13:15] <DASPRiD> jubu, screenelts is better anyway
[13:15] <bazhang> jubu you can try
[13:15] <greasy_leftwing> yes I am
[13:15] <archman> DRebellion: it says Invalid target host specification: 192.168.1-255
[13:15] <jubu> okies..
[13:15] <linuxius> yes, then I get a black screen after startup, which then works after
[13:15] <linuxius> Option		"UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
[13:16] <DRebellion> archman, sorry, <IP_ADDRESS>-255
[13:16] <jubu> im removing gdesklets ryt now
[13:16] <DASPRiD> \o/
[13:16] <greasy_leftwing> is this a common problem?
[13:16] <bazhang> ryt?
[13:16] <ryanzec> greasy_leftwing, have you install the driver from this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924
[13:16] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: ok, apparantly the 440 isn't supported by the unified driver anymore :(
[13:16] <linuxius> but my problem still is the same...
[13:16] <linuxius> yes...
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> osotogari, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58995/                   are my notes on that
[13:16] <greasy_leftwing> how do I go about that?
[13:16] <DASPRiD> !tell DASPRiD clone
[13:16] <ubotwo> DASPRiD: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:16] <DASPRiD> >_>
[13:16] <atoponce> nm. found it
[13:16] <jubu> another question...
[13:16] <linuxius> but why does it work after startup...?
[13:16] <archman> DRebellion: do i need to be disconnected? It doesn't show the network i need...
[13:16] <DRebellion> !help > DASPRiD
[13:16] <DASPRiD> ah :)
[13:17] <DASPRiD> !help clone
[13:17] <ubotwo> How should I know?
[13:17] <osotogari> @ Jack_Sparrow: I'll have a look thanks :)
[13:17] <^u^> !clone | DASPRiD
[13:17] <ubotwo> DASPRiD: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:17] <jubu> wats d best app for CD/DVD burning in UBUNTU?
[13:17] <DASPRiD> ^u^, ty ^^
[13:17] <^u^> k
[13:17] <DRebellion> !best | jubu
[13:17] <ubotwo> jubu: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[13:17] <jubu> lyk as user friendly as NERO?
[13:17] <macnus> legend2440: Is it okay, if i start a private chat, cause it's so hard to find anything, when there is 1213 people posting messages :)
[13:17] <jubu> ok..
[13:17] <ryanzec> just follow the instructions, it is very easy and that fixed flash for me on my 64-bit system
[13:17] <DRebellion> archman, that is the network you're connected to right? you said your ip address was <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:17] <bazhang> jubu please fix your keyboard
[13:17] <jubu> whats the most common for CD/DVD bruning?
[13:18] <legend2440> macnus:  sorry i don't know why it says its a read-only disk unless it has something to do with nfs+ filesystem. yes private is ok
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, Get nero for linux
[13:18] <DASPRiD> ^u^, hmm, you piped me into the clone command, now i'm twice :(
[13:18] <ryanzec> my sound is working on my laptop but when i plug in my headphone, sound it still coming from laptop speakers, i am running ubuntu 7.10 64-bit, anyone know what might help?
[13:18] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[13:18] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: checking up on some stuff, one moment :)
[13:18] <archman> DRebellion: yes, but he doesn't show my network, just some other...
[13:18] <^u^> DASPRiD, apologies - but you're twice what?
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ryanakca, Yes, you need to recompile alsa.. not too hard,, /join #Alsa for help with that
[13:19] <DASPRiD> ^u^, twice there
[13:19] <linuxius> thnx
[13:19] <ryanakca> Jack_Sparrow: I think you mean ryanzec
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[13:19] <^u^> fine DASPRiD ...
[13:19] <DRebellion> archman, 0_o
[13:19] <lodi> #winehq
[13:19] <osotogari> @ Jack_Sparrow: No luck using the Terminal Server Client
[13:19] <bazhang> heh
[13:19] <DASPRiD> ^u^, that's called a joke >_>
[13:19] <Agent_bob> hello! new teratory for me. namely usb devices. i'm not new to linux however.  can someone tell me what module or (application/startup script) is needed to access a usb flash drive ?
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> osotogari, Look into port forwarding... you must be behind a router
[13:20] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: it should work out of the box, are you getting errors when trying to mount it?
[13:20] <DASPRiD> Agent_bob, it should automount by default
[13:20] <lodi> hi
[13:20] <^u^> DASPRiD, ahhh k - thanks for the explanation...
[13:20] <osotogari> Although I do notice in Firestarter on the machine I am connecting to it  logs a blocked connection on port 5900
[13:20] <gaE4> i installes amarok, but when i wanna play a mp3-file it says that amarok cant play mp3's and if i wanna install it, after installation it says, restart amarok to apply changes, when i restart it, it says cannot play mp3's^
[13:20] <ryanakca> gaE4: #kubuntu please
[13:20] <lodi> i think i have a network problem but i d like to chjeck if ive overlooked something
[13:20] <archman> DRebellion: It shows http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58997/
[13:21] <jubu> NERO for Linux is just only trial version? is there any equivalent app for free??
[13:21] <Agent_bob> ryanakca & DASPRiD i didn't ask for shoulds   but thanks for the standard reply.
[13:21] <gaE4> hmm, k, sry
[13:21] <bazhang> gaE4: with ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[13:21] <elius> can i install apache 1.3 using apt-get or i need to install it from sources?
[13:21] <lodi> i have kubuntu 7.10
[13:21] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: the restricted manager should offer you a legacy driver for your card
[13:21] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: It should... followed by "Are you getting errors..."
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, If you have a serial for Nero for windows, it is suppost to work in linux
[13:21] <Seveaz> elius: 1999 called, they want their software back ;)
[13:21] <Agent_bob> ryanakca errors where ?
[13:21] <ryanakca> lodi: What is the network problem, whats happening, are you getting errors, etc?
[13:21] <lodi> and using wine i managed wioth somne difficulty to install an app called wavereader
[13:21] <jubu> oic..
[13:21] <DRebellion> archman, what's the problem then?
[13:21] <Seveaz> elius: the 'apache' package is apache 1.x, the 'apache2' package is apache 2.x
[13:21] <elius> Seveaz: need to install it for a project im working on
[13:22] <linuxius> which I can install by synaptics...?
[13:22] <gaE4> hi, i installed amarok, but when i wanna play a mp3-file it says that amarok cant play mp3's and if i wanna install it, after installation it says, restart amarok to apply changes, when i restart it, it says cannot play mp3's^
[13:22] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: the manager is under system -> maintainance... you need the nvidia-glx-legacy package :)
[13:22] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: ok, so I'm guessing that when you plug it in, nothing happens?
[13:22] <lodi> it is used to monitor general electric security cam mnultiplexer
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, When I installed it .. it came up with a serial number that I assume was my serial from windows (mounted) drive
[13:22] <Seveaz> !repeat | gae4
[13:22] <jubu> maybe i'll just install NERO 4 WIndows via Wine
[13:22] <ryanakca> gaE4: ask in #kubuntu please
[13:22] <ubotwo> gae4: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:22] <Agent_bob> ryanakca exactly
[13:22] <bazhang> gaE4: did you read my last message to you?
[13:22] <DASPRiD> gaE4, you need mp3 gstreamer plugin
[13:22] <archman> DRebellion: there is no connection im on? Just that ZyXEL, its some other connection; some neighbour...
[13:22] <linuxius> already tried that... that stays the same... quality is even lower...
[13:22] <gaE4> omg, wring channel rly sorry
[13:22] <Agent_bob> ryanakca dapper drake LTS console only.
[13:22] <elius> Seveaz: wont let me apt-get install apache, "Package apache is not available..."
[13:22] <sinbox> jubu nero to do what?
[13:22] <lodi> when i connect to the desired location
[13:22] <archman> DRebellion: it needs to appear  ABRA
[13:22] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: ok. run 'mount' ?
[13:23] <jubu> did it the trial version expired @ jack?
[13:23] <lodi> data comes in at a very slow rate, like 30 kb/s
[13:23] <jubu> CD/DVD burning
[13:23] <Seveaz> elius: you might need to enable universe
[13:23] <DRebellion> archman, zyxel is the manufacturer of the network card with that mac address
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, Mine has not.. crossing fingers
[13:23] <osotogari> @ Jack_Sparrow: Got it sorted, firewall on the remote machine was blocking the VNC port
[13:23] <Agent_bob> ryanakca it can't automount  it's not seens
[13:23] <elius> Seveaz: entable universe?
[13:23] <jubu> ok.
[13:23] <Agent_bob> seen
[13:23] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: thats why it didn't mount automatically, it should in GNOME/KDU :)
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> osotogari, glad to hear it..
[13:23] <sinbox> there are some linux apps to do CD/DVD writing jubu
[13:23] <archman> DRebellion: i know, but also is the ap
[13:23] <linuxius> I have heard something about a CPU problem... could that be the cause?
[13:23] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: with the "nvidia" driver listed in your xorg.conf file, quality is bad with the nvidia-glx-legacy driver?
[13:23] <jubu> can i use apt 2 get NERO for Linux?
[13:23] <lodi> if I do www.speedtest.nl in ie6.0 which also runs using wine
[13:23] <Seveaz> !universe | elius
[13:23] <linuxius> yes
[13:23] <ubotwo> elius: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[13:23] <lodi> i get quite acceptable values
[13:23] <DRebellion> archman, you must be connected to the wrong network then
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, no
[13:24] <lodi> like 150 - 300 kb/s
[13:24] <greasy_leftwing> wow, that was eay
[13:24] <DRebellion> archman, or nmap has  made a mistake
[13:24] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: ok, just a second, I'll try to find you an automount script
[13:24] <greasy_leftwing> thanks
[13:24] <DASPRiD> ls -alh
[13:24] <wwomack> Question about Ubuntu Installation?
[13:24] <DASPRiD> ah wrong window
[13:24] <Agent_bob> ryanakca ok.  now do you know what module is required to access it ?
[13:24] <jubu> ok.
[13:24] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: then I can not suggest a better sollution, you could try the legacy drivers from the nvidia website :)
[13:24] <bazhang> wwomack: go ahead please
[13:24] <jubu> but is der a debian package for NERO Linux?
[13:24] <bazhang> jubu you are on #debian?
[13:24] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: Kernel module? I think it comes included by default. Don't take my word for it. *googling*
[13:24] <Seveaz> jubu: there could be but why use crappy proprietary software? :)
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jubu, Yes, it was a simple install, not compiling and all of that
[13:25] <wwomack> How do I resize a windows XP partition in Live CD Installation?
[13:25] <archman> DRebellion: i'll translate the whole thing: i am connected to an ap; and also is connected my friend to that same ap; how to get friends ip?
[13:25] <linuxius> I downloaded the latest legacy driver from the nvidia webpage: 1:96.43.05 and installed it...
[13:25] <jubu> ok
[13:25] <bazhang> wwomack: resize it to your pleasure and then continue--the slider bar allows that
[13:25] <linuxius> only works after startup
[13:25] <Seveaz> archman: you could scan for it with arping
[13:25] <DRebellion> archman, scan the network like i just said, or ask your friend nicely
[13:26] <linuxius> when I shut down the laptop and restart it with the "nvidia" driver, the system crashes...
[13:26] <archman> DRebellion: errgh...
[13:26] <DASPRiD> !automate
[13:26] <ubotwo> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxius, If you insist on asking for help please tell people that you used ENVY to install that driver
[13:26] <ryanakca> Agent_bob: this might be useful: http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html
[13:26] <linuxius> I don't know what kind of problem that could be
[13:26] <soto> Is it daylight savings time in U.S. today?
[13:26] <DASPRiD> !cloning
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> soto, yes
[13:26] <ubotwo> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:26] <Seveaz> Jack_Sparrow: eww... envy...
[13:26] <frawfraw> soto: yea last night
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> MOrning Seveaz
[13:26] <Agent_bob> ryanakca ok.   thank you "<-------------->" this much
[13:26] <frawfraw> soto: err, wait.. i mean right now?
[13:27] <wwomack> I am not sure where to get the slide bar.  Do not want to damage my Windows Partition.
[13:27] <archman> Seveaz: to install it i need to remove 3 packs; not really...thanks, though...
[13:27] <Seveaz> archman: really? What does it want to remove?
[13:27] <soto> How do I print my timezone and DST info from the command line?
[13:27] <ryanakca> agent: lol, np. If it doesn't work, poke me, I should be in and out all day :)
[13:27] <linuxius> Jack_Sparrow, and then there is a wiki page which tells you to manually install the driver, which I did and then the problem is the same...
[13:27] <archman> DRebellion: the scan doesn't show it...
[13:27] <linuxius> just did it with the wiki... I'm sorry if that's wrong...
[13:27] <bazhang> wwomack: once you start installing it will sense your windows install and then give you a slider to resize the partition
[13:27] <archman> DRebellion: some other way, except asking a 'friend' ?
[13:28] <legend2440> is there a problem with using ENVY? i have used it successfully for radeon 9660 many times
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxius, Doesnt matter, you already hosed things up by running envy... it changed sources etc, just redoing it manually does not fix the problem
[13:28] <archman> Seveaz: iputils-arping network-manager network-manager-gnome
[13:28] <bazhang> legend2440: yes
[13:28] <soto> !envy | legend2440
[13:28] <ubotwo> legend2440: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[13:28] <ryanzec> the alsa is not active right now, anyone know any link on how to compile alsa for 64-bit ubuntu 7.10?
[13:28] <linuxius> ok, sorry for asking questions then...
[13:28] <Seveaz> archman: what are you installing then?
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> legend2440, Not a good idea
[13:28] <legend2440> bazhang:  ok ty
[13:28] <linuxius> so I can throw my laptop away?
[13:28] <archman> Seveaz: or better install from source?
[13:29] <archman> Seveaz: arping, no?
[13:29] <ThaRabbit> linuxius: perhaps this can help you further - http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxius, Reinstall a backup prior to using envy
[13:29] <legend2440> linuxius:  i'll take it lol
[13:29] <Seveaz> archman: it's installed already (iputils-arping contains it)
[13:29] <ryanakca> keiserr: You probably want the Ubuntu Server CD... be warned, it doesn't come with gnome.
[13:29] <archman> Seveaz: yeah, i realized
[13:29] <archman> Seveaz: sorry
[13:30] <vallhalla81> hi all can anyone tell me how i get this style of bar at the bottom of the screen http://mikesubuntu.googlepages.com/Screenshotweirdvideo.jpg
[13:30] <wwomack> Do I click on the Windows Partition and it will continu to allow modification when I click OK.  It gives me a message that I am about to delete the Curent Partition
[13:30] <archman> Seveaz: how to scan?
[13:30] <linuxius> well, envy didn't change my problem, it stayed exactely the same... ;-)
[13:30] <Seveaz> archman: read the manpage :)
[13:30] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[13:30] <linuxius> however... thanx ThaRabbit... will have a look there... they may know more ;-)
[13:30] <geert_> Has anybody got any experience with a HP ScanJet 5300?
[13:31] <Seveaz> (read that as: I don't know ;))
[13:31] <archman> Seveaz: can you give me some 'fast' command? O-o
[13:31] <DRebellion> Seveaz, archman, nmap would have used arp scans on the network anyway, so i doubt it will make a difference
[13:31] <^u^> vallhalla81, that is avant window navigator - you need compiz enabled to run it
[13:31] <ryanakca> geert_: What would you like to know about it? Are you looking to install it, are you getting errors, ?
[13:32] <geert_> ryanakca, well, the device is plugged in, and it shows up on lsusb, but xsane does not detect it
[13:32] <vallhalla81> ^u^: just compis or fusion?
[13:32] <bazhang> vallhalla81: they are one now
[13:32] <ryanakca> geert_: this might be helpfull http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7930
[13:32] <^u^> vallhalla81, it is the same thing these days I believe
[13:33] <unenough> help! how do i control the fan on a toshiba laptop? A215
[13:33] <vallhalla81> ok thank you i will look in to it now
[13:33] <geert_> ryanakca, it says I need to add my user to the camera group. How do I do this?
[13:34] <osotogari> I want to share out my partition on /dev/sda7 through samba, I have set up samba and I can access the share through my ubuntu laptop, however when i try to connect via a windows machine I get a "network path not available" error message
[13:34] <picotron> xfi drivers?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> osotogari,  you can access it with the samba tools under ubuntu? or you mean accessing the mountpoint?
[13:34] <archman> Seveaz: i don't get that 'destination' option.
[13:35] <archman> wont wor kwithout that
[13:35] <gaE4> i am confused about deleting files...
[13:35] <gaE4> sometimes i delete with shift-delete or just delete and agree - but now i found a file which contains lots of "deleted" files - not all files i deleted. its on another harddisc - does linux just paste them into another folder instead of deleting, because it isnt the same harddisc on which ubuntu is installed? hmm, sry my english isnt the best ;D
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> osotogari,  i tend to manually edit my samba config to enable  a few public shares  - The books in the 'samba-doc' package cover this.
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  they tend to go  into the trashcan, which  you then empty. with removeable media - this can be a problem.
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, You should see a .Trash folder on your other drives like ntfs and fat32 ...
[13:36] <gaE4> yeah the folders name is .trash-username
[13:37] <Bucko`> hi, anyone knows if its possible to run quake3 on ubuntu on a ps3?
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, you should also see another in /root on your main partition
[13:37] <gaE4> ok, and the trash doesnt delete the files there because it hastn acces onto this harddisc, true?
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, true, but there are ways of linking them
[13:37] <archman> Seveaz: i need target's ip. But i'm looking for it...maan
[13:38] <DRebellion> archman, how do you know your friend's even connected to the network?
[13:38] <bazhang> archman: why do you need this 'friend's ip?
[13:38] <gaE4> is it hard to do that?
[13:38] <ismail> turkish
[13:38] <bazhang> ismail /j #ubuntu-tr
[13:38] <archman> DRebellion: router blinks; so he's probably online dling movies...
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  every so often i have to  use the shell and as root 'sudo rm .trash-whatever'
[13:39] <fajn_poba> hello
[13:39] <archman> bazhang: hmhm...
[13:39] <DRebellion> archman, right... very logical...
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  and yes. its an annoyance with gnome and removeable media.
[13:39] <bazhang> archman are you trying to access someone else's box? without their permission?
[13:39] <gaE4> Dr_Willis thanks
[13:40] <fajn_poba> does Ubuntu have the locale as ASCII or as UTF-8?
[13:40] <archman> DRebellion: well, yes....argh....caught
[13:40] <archman> bazhang: well, yes....argh....caught
[13:40] <vallhalla81> !avant window navigator
[13:40] <ubotwo> vallhalla81: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:40] <endo602> I just switch distros from Kubuntu to Ubuntu and now my glftpd is messed up, any ideas?
[13:40] <MiraiWarren0_0> I have a file to run the Netzero client on for Linspire.  I think it will work for Ubuntu, but when I tried to use the netzero.deb package I got an error about having the wrong processor architecture.  Can it be compiled for a 64-bit machine?
[13:41] <bazhang> does #ubuntu channel support that sort of behaviour?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> MiraiWarren0_0,  mixxing 64 and 32bit is not a good thing. :)  it MIGHT work if you had a 32bit install.
[13:41] <^u^> !info awn
[13:41] <ubotwo> Package awn does not exist in gutsy
[13:41] <dwater> Jack_Sparrow: remember I was going to install onto RAID1? well, I did, and it worked, but then it broke again - froze at the ubuntu splash screen - so now I'm going to do a plain install to one of the disks and work on RAID1 sometime later, when I'm not in a hurry.
[13:41] <vallhalla81> i installed avant window navigator but when i click to open it nothing hapens
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> MiraiWarren0_0,  if you can find the source deb . you may be ble to recompile it.
[13:41] <archman> bazhang: not really...
[13:41] <gaE4> Dr_Willis, no such file or directory; sudo -s | Password | sudo rm .Trash-ga | that were my commands
[13:41] <fajn_poba> is Ubuntu 8.04's default locale ASCII or UTF-8?
[13:42] <MiraiWarren0_0> Ok, thank you.
[13:42] <erUSUL> fajn_poba: the later like every other ubuntu release
[13:42] <MiraiWarren0_0> I do not think netzero released any.
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dwater, Yes raid is troublesome, whichis why I quit using it
[13:42] <^u^> vallhalla81, have you enabled desktop effects?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  give the proper full path to the dir or cd to where its at.. and normally its 'rm -rf .Trash-Whatever'
[13:42] <vallhalla81> ^u^:  yes i have
[13:42] <gaE4> Dr_Willis k, i will try, ty
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang, I should have done that sooner
[13:43] <fajn_poba> erUSUL so any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale UTF-8?
[13:43] <^u^> vallhalla81, someone who uses it will have to help you then - sorry
[13:43] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow: nah he was too sly
[13:43] <erUSUL> fajn_poba: yes afaik
[13:43] <vallhalla81> ^u^:  do you think a restart or reinstal of awn ?
[13:43] <dwater> Jack_Sparrow: I've done it a few times before - on Ubuntu server, and on FC6 without a whole lot of trouble. It looked ok this time too, to start with, but it started to mess up. I found a few ubuntu specific bugs related to the problems I was seeking too.
[13:43] <fajn_poba> can anyone confirm this please?
[13:44] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale UTF-8
[13:44] <^u^> vallhalla81, I would maybe try a restart first if it is there
[13:44] <fajn_poba> yes or no?
[13:44] <_julian> hi all
[13:44] <_julian> how can I see which version of ubuntu I am actually running?
[13:44] <DRebellion> !version | _julian
[13:44] <fajn_poba> loool
[13:44] <ubotwo> _julian: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[13:44] <vallhalla81> ^u^:  ok thank you agn for your help
[13:44] <^u^> k
[13:44] <_julian> DRebellion: thanks (c:
[13:44] <dwater> Jack_Sparrow: anyway, thanks for the help. ttyl
[13:45] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:45] <_julian> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should be enough to install all security relevant updates, shouldn't it?
[13:45] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:45] <gaE4> Dr_Willis, rm: cannot remove `.Trash-ga': Is a directory
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, empty not delete folder
[13:46] <gaE4> which command?
[13:46] <abstrak> hi all, i have 2 TV tuner /dev/video0|1 and the /dev/dsp1|2 are some times exchanged... what can i do ?
[13:46] <magoo> any one use virtualbox
[13:46] <magoo> im having problems
[13:46] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:46] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:46] <tonyyarusso> _julian: provided you have default repos, yes.  However, it will install some updates that are not security-related as well, so if you specifically want to limit it to that you would need to do more.
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> magoo, They have a good channel  #VBox  I think
[13:46] <magoo> really cool didnt know
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> magoo, LEt me know if that isnt right
[13:47] <_julian> tonyyarusso: that's ok, only need to be sure all security updates are included... and hopefully it breaks nothing
[13:47] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow, which command for empty folder?
[13:48] <tonyyarusso> _julian: yeah, "should" be safe.
[13:48] <DRebellion> gaE4, rm -r folder/*
[13:48] <gaE4> k, ty
[13:48] <wwomack> anyone mind a private msg to answer a few instal questions?
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, I dont know..  I have an icon linking all the trash...
[13:48] <elius> where can i find httpd.conf(using apache) on ubuntu?
[13:48] <tonyyarusso> _julian: btw, it is also possible to set up automatic, unattended updates, if you're running a server or something and want that.
[13:48] <Starnestommy> elius: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[13:48] <DRebellion> elius, command:  locate httpd.conf
[13:48] <tonyyarusso> !pm | wwomack
[13:48] <ubotwo> wwomack: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:48] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:48] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:48] <tonyyarusso> elius: /etc/apache2/
[13:49] <gaE4> is there no way to bind the trash from other discs into the trash of the maindisc?
[13:49] <magoo> i dont think anyone is alive in the vbox chat
[13:49] <elius> hmm thanks
[13:49] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:49] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, Yes there is.. I use cairo-dock which has that feature built in
[13:50] <ArmyMan007> hi
[13:50] <ArmyMan007> I want to ask a question regarding Xubuntu
[13:50] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:50] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> gaE4,  Not really  that ive seen . its a annoying 'issue' with how the gnome file manager works.. Just rember on external disks always use shift-delete, or similer. to actually delete the files.
[13:50] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:50] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:50] <tonyyarusso> !repeat | fajn_poba
[13:50] <ubotwo> fajn_poba: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> magoo, they are there, just not as active, be patient and you will get the best help with VBox from them
[13:50] <fajn_poba> just fucking answer me already!
[13:50] <fajn_poba> any language that Ubuntu supports has the locale set as UTF-8
[13:50] <fajn_poba> is that correct?
[13:50] <bazhang> wow
[13:51] <gaE4> ok i think i am just to nooby to get this work^
[13:51] <bazhang> language fajn_poba
[13:51] <fajn_poba> just fucking answer me already!
[13:51]  * Dr_Willis wonders how chinease can be utf-8
[13:51] <bazhang> gaE4: not that hard really and we can help you out when/if you run into difficulties
[13:51] <abstrak> I have 2 TV tuner /dev/video0|1 and the corresponding /dev/dsp1|2 are some times swapped... what can i do to bind them with the correct dsp at each reboot?
[13:51] <master_alvaro> hello
[13:52] <master_alvaro> i want to update 1 package (with depend.), how to do it (by apt)
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> master_alvaro, Is it a package from our repos or outside
[13:52] <tonyyarusso> master_alvaro: sudo apt-get upgrade packagename
[13:52] <master_alvaro> i have testing-priority=900 and unstable=800 in /etc/apt/preferences
[13:53] <gaE4> hmm... ;D how to bind the trash from another disc into the main trash? ??cairo-dock?? - where to get this? didnt find a package called cairo-dock
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, Let me find you a link
[13:54] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow ty
[13:54] <master_alvaro> i have ooo-2.3 from testing, but i want 2.4 from sid; so sould i type: apt-get -t unstable install openoffice.org? or what? upgrade?
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[13:54] <tonyyarusso> master_alvaro: um, you shouldn't be using Debian repositories in the first place.
[13:54] <gaE4> thanks
[13:54] <master_alvaro> BTW: i have debian ;p
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:55] <tonyyarusso> master_alvaro: Ah, in that case, #debian will know.
[13:55] <master_alvaro> they don't know or don't want to tell me ;p
[13:55] <bazhang> haha
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> master_alvaro, This is the wrong channel for your questions..
[13:56] <master_alvaro> but apt-pinning is avaiable for ubuntu as well
[13:56] <bazhang> master_alvaro: go here www.ubuntu.com and dl and install then all will be well ;]
[13:56] <master_alvaro> so it should be work for ubu
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> master_alvaro, This is the wrong channel for your questions.  Debian would not have a problem answering you .. unless you were banned or something like that
[13:57] <master_alvaro> so if i have ubuntu, for egzample 6.06 LTS or another stable version, and want package from testing/beta/alpha, what i sholud to do?
[13:57] <bazhang> master_alvaro: add the backports
[13:58] <bazhang> master_alvaro: or go to #ubuntu+1 if you are really brave ;]
[13:58] <soto> master_alvaro: apt-get -t hardy foo-package
[13:58] <master_alvaro> but i won't use backport, i want use apt-pinning ;p
[13:58] <soto> master_alvaro: or apt-get foo-package/hardy
[13:58] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow which one of this packages? using gutsy 64bit? https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108
[13:58] <master_alvaro> soto: for upadte or install only?
[13:58] <soto> master_alvaro: The first will get dependencies from hardy also. The second will try to satisfy dependencies from current install
[13:59] <master_alvaro> soto: thx
[13:59] <soto> master_alvaro: Update or install
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, read through there.. I am not sure atm
[13:59] <master_alvaro> ok, thx
[13:59] <master_alvaro> so i found debian bug ;p
[13:59] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow kk
[13:59] <master_alvaro> because it doesn't work for me ;p
[14:00] <gavin__> Hello group.  Where can I find a description of the information I get when I cat /proc/diskstats ?  There is no MAN or INFO page about it.
[14:00] <bazhang> master_alvaro: you are really offtopic here ;]
[14:00] <soto> master_alvaro: Be careful though: You can screw up your system by upgrading libraries when your older packages still depend on older libraries.
[14:00] <amenado> gavin__-> google?
[14:01] <soto> master_alvaro: So you generally do not want to use the -t flag to pull from another version. (Its usually safe if the code is interpreted or they are pure data files).
[14:01] <gavin__> amenado: tried google.  no avail.  thought there might be a good resource online for gereral linux proc filesystem goodness.  Perhaps wikipedia.
[14:01] <soto> master_alvaro: Normally what you would do is hope that it is in the 'backports' repository: It is build specifically against the libraries of the 'current' system.
[14:02] <bazhang> gavin__: install pastebinit and cat and pipe it to that you can then paste the url here for us to check
[14:02] <gavin__> bazhang: I'll check it out, thanks.
[14:02] <master_alvaro> for xserver it is work, but it doesn't work for ooo (it can't meet depend.)
[14:02] <WorkingOnWis2> how can I tel if both cores of my cpu are avtive (as in initialized )
[14:03] <soto> master_alvaro: What fails?
[14:03] <bazhang> arg WorkingOnWis2 someone was just asking that yesterday just a sec
[14:03] <abstrak> I have 2 TV tuner /dev/video0|1 and the corresponding /dev/dsp1|2 are some times swapped... what can i do to bind/force them with the correct/ dsp at each reboot?
[14:03] <soto> master_alvaro: Which package?
[14:03] <tonyyarusso> WorkingOnWis2: System > Administration > System Monitor will show both
[14:04] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: ty
[14:05] <master_alvaro> soto: openoffice.org: Depends: openoffice.org-core (= 1: 2.4.0~rc2-1) but 1:2.3.1-5 is to be installed
[14:05] <bazhang> soto he is using #debian in case you weren't aware
[14:06] <master_alvaro> i wrote: apt-get -t unstable install openoffice.org
[14:07] <soto> master_alvaro: #debian is the appropriate channel for debian specific questions, but like I said, trying to pull a big package is going to result in system breakage or dependency conflicts due to incompatible libraries/dependencies.
[14:07] <osotogari> I am trying to share out a partition with Samba, I can access it with Ubuntu on my laptop however when I try to access it with a Windows box I get a "network path not available" error message
[14:07] <lodi> can you browse to it?
[14:07] <master_alvaro> soto: ok, thx
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> soto, HE has been told a couple of times now...
[14:08] <Metuchen> that's probably because Windows sucks.
[14:08] <lodi> lol
[14:08] <master_alvaro> and sry for spamming ;p
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> Or hes browsing it locally as the filesystem on the linux box.. not as a samba share..
[14:08] <lodi> are both boxes in the same workgroup?
[14:08] <_contact_> hi all
[14:08] <_contact_>  wonder something
[14:08] <soto> master_alvaro: Ask in #debian (or find out otherwise) if OO is in backports.
[14:08] <osotogari> Yes, same workgroups
[14:09] <_contact_> i'm dowloading ubuntu for 64 bit
[14:09] <lodi> reboot the winwos box?
[14:09] <_contact_> but this file's name contains only amd64
[14:09] <osotogari> @ lodi: Ill try that
[14:09] <_contact_> does it suppot intel emt64?
[14:09] <|WolF1> Question: Is necessary for ubuntu to use antivirus, and if yes which one is the best?
[14:09] <A_linka> hi all! is here anybody from russia?
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> _contact_, Are you familiar with linux in general?
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> !virus | |WolF1
[14:09] <_contact_> nope
[14:09] <ubotwo> |WolF1: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[14:09] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of /usr/games/fortune?
[14:10] <Metuchen> Antivirus in Ubuntu is for protecting the "innocent" windows boxes you interact with.
[14:10] <_contact_> Jack_Sparrow:  nope
[14:10] <lodi> hhhhhhhhhhhh
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> |WolF1,  ubuntu dosent need it. the AV tools out for linux , normally scan windows files :)
[14:10] <|WolF1> lol I get rid off windows once and forever :)
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> _contact_, May I politely suggest you use 32bit to start with... not much difference in speed and it will help you with the learning curve
[14:10]  * Dr_Willis agrees with Jack_Sparrow
[14:10] <abstrak> How can I set static /dev/dsp ?
[14:11] <wizo> hey, how much space is needed for an ubuntu installation?
[14:11] <_contact_> i'm using pardus 32 bit now already
[14:11] <encryptz> aneouth
[14:11] <_contact_> ubuntu 64 bit is just for tryin' it
[14:11] <_contact_> if it works with my system no problem then
[14:11] <|WolF1> is there a photoshop for linux or something simmilar?
[14:11] <tonyyarusso> wizo: I believe the default comes in around 2.1 GB or so, but it would be wise to use at least 5 GB, since presumably you'll want to save some documents.
[14:11] <lodi> gimp
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !gimp | |WolF1
[14:11] <tonyyarusso> |WolF1: a combination of gimp and inkscape is as close as we get so far.
[14:11] <ubotwo> |WolF1: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[14:11] <Itaku> where can i get the source code of /usr/games/fortune?
[14:11] <Metuchen> I wouldn't say 64-bit is just for trying, but 32-bit is definitely easier to support.
[14:12] <wizo> would 30 gigs in total be enough?
[14:12] <lodi> yes wizo
[14:12] <jrib> Itaku: apt-get source fortune-mod
[14:12] <wizo> lodi, thanks
[14:12] <lodi> u r welcome
[14:13] <wizo> im gonna be installing it with my vista
[14:13] <iNeo> is there someone with a working /etc/toprc file?, looking for an example
[14:13] <wizo> hope grub can let me boot into vista as well
[14:13] <Elko> vista! my eyes!
[14:13] <Metuchen> yes.
[14:13] <abstrak> I have 2 TV tuner /dev/video0|1 and the corresponding /dev/dsp1|2 are some times swapped... what can i do to bind/force them with the correct/ dsp at each reboot?
[14:13] <Metuchen> grub will dual-boot vista just fin.
[14:13] <wizo> metuchen, thanks!
[14:13] <lodi> lol wizo, with beryl / compiz who needs vista?
[14:13] <WorkingOnWis1> FWIW, I am no Linux guru, but get by pretty good. I went back to 32 from 64 because it is harder to get support....just isnt as popular yet.... and I have no regrets....
[14:13] <wizo> now i'm not so afraid to break it now
[14:14] <wizo> lodi, lol, it's preloaded
[14:14] <Itaku> jrib: where does the source download to?
[14:14] <wizo> lodi, until im confident i can get all the drivers working, i think i'll stick with dual booting now
[14:14] <jrib> Itaku: current working directory
[14:14] <iNeo> abstrak: this is done with udev
[14:14] <lodi> formatting always works in xtrem  cases wizo
[14:14] <Metuchen> the biggest problem with 64-bit is with the proprietary apps like flash that don't compile for 64-bit
[14:14] <RodGo> hello 2 all, i need some help on routing all my outgoing traffic trough a proxy server
[14:14] <abstrak> a good udev wiki URL ?
[14:14] <lodi> whtats your config? wizo
[14:15] <RodGo> its because i want to download some xbox live region specific content
[14:15] <wizo> lodi, you mean using the recovery disk?
[14:15] <iNeo> RodGo: A proxy can't route
[14:15] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: any luck on the cpu initialization?
[14:15] <Metuchen> RodGo: what's your network look like?
[14:15] <wizo> lodi, my config, err, no idea. this is a laptop
[14:15] <lodi> no what 's inside the machine lol
[14:15] <wizo> i'm not even sure what wireless card this is using
[14:15] <wwomack> Question?    I am trying to add 7.10 to my HD on a full time basis.  My problem is the installers partition program is very criptic and I am not familiar with it at all,  My Main  "ONLY" partition is 136000 MB.  But WinXP resides there Oh it is an NTSF partition.  I want to make a 10 GB part. in that one that I can add Ubuntu on.  However it makes me feel that it will remove the current Partition and replace it with the new one.  How does t
[14:15] <RodGo> look i connect my xbox live directly to my PC
[14:15] <slipttees> howto install Chrome9 IGP ?
[14:15] <RodGo> and my pc is wireless to a router
[14:15] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow i am here now https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock#head-9f1c1489c0b90117c245507605062511fb81f22d
[14:15] <gaE4> Download and decompress the source .tar.bz2, move ... i downloaded it to desktop, what to do now?
[14:15] <RodGo> i want to configure my pc, to route all traffic to a specific proxy
[14:16] <lodi> you can test all of that running the live system, bfore you install wizo
[14:16] <Metuchen> is this just for one machine?
[14:16] <RodGo> so i can download some Gears of Wars maps i cant download cuz i live at south america
[14:16] <Metuchen> is this just for http?
[14:16] <RodGo> no, xbox live uses another port
[14:16] <fantum13> Hello, all of my movies are playing as solid green with a few yellow lines. I have all the codecs installed and have played these files before, but now none of my movie files work in Totem, VLC, or Mplayer. Halp?
[14:17] <Metuchen> then you need a box standing directly "between" your xbox and your internet connection.
[14:17] <wizo> lodi, man i don't even knwo what graphics card i'm using
[14:17] <lodi> does it have documentation?
[14:17] <RodGo> xbox live is on port 3074
[14:17] <wizo> lodi, lol yea im gonna google it soon
[14:17] <RodGo> ill need a socks proxy right?
[14:17] <Metuchen> no.
[14:17] <Pirate_Hunter> Is there a way for me to get a secure shh account, ive been googling info on shh and found sites that offer shell accounts but i have no clue how secure it is?
[14:18] <lodi> video = ati? wizo
[14:18] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: is Windows 2000, xp, or vista installed?
[14:18] <slipttees> Chrome9 IGP + ubuntu 7.10 change resolution screen and active 2d or 3d ?
[14:18] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[14:18] <Elmo_> fantum13: something like this? http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/message/193194
[14:18] <Itaku> when i try to use sudo gedit i get this error
[14:18] <Itaku> apt-get source fortune-mod
[14:18] <wizo> WorkingOnWis1: vista preloaded
[14:18] <Itaku> oops
[14:18] <RodGo> but first i need to know how to connect my pc to a proxy server at USA so it routes my traffic from xboxl ive
[14:18] <lodi> because that would have its drawbacks
[14:18] <Itaku> when i try to use sudo gedit i get this error
[14:18] <wizo> lodi, ey? totally no idea
[14:18] <Itaku> damnit cant copy
[14:18] <wizo> lodi, i'll have to search now
[14:18] <Metuchen> RodGo: correction, maybe yeah...but you'll need a box to redirect that traffic
[14:18] <RodGo> anyway i have a vps at Media Temple
[14:19] <wizo> it's a fujitsu S7211
[14:19] <Lovecats> hi all :D
[14:19] <gaE4> anyone can help me plz?
[14:19] <gaE4> i am at point 2.2 just installed the files for amd64 and now downloaded the .tar.bz2 file now i have problems with decompress etc. how to continue?
[14:19] <fantum13> Elmo_: No, green and solid instead of pink and static
[14:19] <gaE4> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock#head-9f1c1489c0b90117c245507605062511fb81f22d
[14:19] <RodGo>  i just need to know what tools i can use at my local pc, and what program to install at my vps so i can do that connection trough proxy
[14:19] <lodi> wizo, when you run the dvd, you first enter a live session ( running linux from the dvd in a ramdrive)
[14:19] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: all your hardware info should be easy to find in device manager. It's how I find out beford I smoke a windows install. Make it tell me all I need to know to kill it!
[14:19] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: no, it's impossible as you can never actually trust an administrator, but ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[14:19] <Itaku> sudo: timestamp too fat in the furure: Mar 9 11:13:54 2008 <---- how do i fix that error?
[14:20] <wizo> WorkingOnWis1: , lol. the device manager here aint telling me alot
[14:20] <Metuchen> Itaku: set your timezon.
[14:20] <Itaku> it is set
[14:20] <lodi> in that session  you can use all the tools necesary to check if everything works, and get thinbgs working if they dont
[14:20] <Lovecats> !ubuntu
[14:20] <ubotwo> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[14:21] <wizo> WorkingOnWis1: display adapters say : mobile intel(r) 965 express chipset family
[14:21] <wizo> lodi, i should run the liveCD first?
[14:21] <lodi> just remember to enable all the repositories in package manager
[14:21] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: sorry. Havent smokes a Vista install. Seeing it on my sons laptop is what pushed me totally onto Ubuntu!
[14:21] <lodi> of course
[14:21] <Itaku> Metuchen: it is set
[14:21] <Lovecats> lol i got a brand new laptop yesterday and i used vista for like 10 mins :)
[14:21] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: thats a basic Intel 950 seried GPU. Well supported in Linux afaik
[14:21] <lodi> in the dvd the installer is a link on the desktop...
[14:22] <RodGo> what is a good proxy client i can install so i can route xbox live
[14:22] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[14:22] <lodi> yes
[14:22] <lodi> should work well
[14:22] <Metuchen> Lovecats: then you can't get your windows refund ;(
[14:22] <lodi> rest is probably intel too
[14:22] <Lovecats> rerund??
[14:22] <Itaku> Metuchen: my timezone is set
[14:22] <Lovecats> i can do a restore i hope :D
[14:22] <Metuchen> yeah...if you don't boot it, you can get a refund.
[14:22]  * WorkingOnWis1 agrees wizo
[14:22] <Lovecats> really?
[14:22] <Metuchen> yup.
[14:22] <vignesh> is iTunes wine compatible??
[14:22] <WorkingOnWis1> with lodi
[14:23] <wizo> WorkingOnWis1: thanks :D
[14:23] <Lovecats> how do i do that?
[14:23] <DRebellion> !appdb | vignesh
[14:23] <ubotwo> vignesh: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[14:23] <Itaku> Metuchen: my timezone is set
[14:23] <Metuchen> small claims court :)
[14:23] <lodi> have no fear wizo, free yourself from the grasp of uncle bill, and demand a refund
[14:23] <Lovecats> lol
[14:23] <Metuchen> Itaku: start ntp.
[14:23] <wizo> hahaa
[14:23] <vignesh> ubotwo, ty
[14:23] <wizo> argh i cant find the specs for this laptop
[14:23] <Metuchen> but seriously, you *can* get a refund...and I'm told it can be done direct with MS.
[14:23] <slipttees> please guys :-(
[14:23] <Metuchen> (without court)
[14:23] <WorkingOnWis1> wizo: but....check the wifi and be sure you kniw what it is... that has always been my biggest hurdle installing Ubuntu ...
[14:23] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i try it says the timestamp is too far in the furute
[14:24] <Lovecats> ah
[14:24] <ompaul> !offtopic
[14:24] <ubotwo> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:24] <lodi> wizoi what brand is ur laptop?
[14:24] <wizo> lodi, fujitsu S7211
[14:24] <wwomack> ok guess not thanks very much.  maybe later
[14:24] <slipttees> i have Chrome9 IGP and ubuntu gutsy don't change screen resoution and 2d grafics :(
[14:24] <lodi> moment
[14:24] <wizo> but the ones on the site are the "enhanced" ones
[14:24] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i try it says the timestamp is too far in the furute
[14:24] <Metuchen> then you need to st the date first.
[14:25] <wizo> not mine with  the T2330 dual core 1.6 processor thing
[14:25] <Metuchen> get it "close enough" then start ntp.
[14:25] <AlexC> Has anyone noticed that Thunderbirrd under ubuntu has become all but unusable?
[14:25] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i try it says the timestamp is too far in the furute
[14:25] <AlexC> There is more wrong with thunderbird than right!
[14:26] <Lovecats> im thinking about getting a Compaq Presario laptop for my brother in general does Ubuntu do well on Compaqs? (i know this is a generic question)
[14:26] <Metuchen> Itaku: run the date command.
[14:26] <Itaku> god why cant i copy from terminal?
[14:26] <RodGo> please can someone help me? i want to do  a tunneling of my xbox live, trough my local pc, so that all traffic "seems" like its from USA
[14:26] <RodGo> any ideas pleas?
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Itaku, Add shift to the command
[14:26] <Metuchen> do you have a proxy in the US?
[14:26] <Itaku> the shift key or?
[14:27] <Itaku> i have comcast?
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Itaku, add shift to the command or read the pull down menu
[14:27] <Metuchen> terminal copy: CTRL+SHIFT+C
[14:27] <sinbox> AlexC don't say that I am about to install thundebird :(
[14:27] <Lovecats> can someone give me the link for Ubuntu hardware compatibility? please :D
[14:27] <RodGo> i have a vps in the us
[14:27] <RodGo> where i can setup a proxy server for this
[14:27] <AlexC> So much has been broken.
[14:27] <bazhang> Lovecats:  just a second
[14:27] <Itaku> it still doesnt work
[14:27] <Lovecats> ok thank you bazhang
[14:27] <AlexC> I find myself fighting with it constantly.
[14:28] <lodi> should be intel wireless, works by default wizo
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> sinbox, Thunderbird has not given me any problems
[14:28] <Metuchen> RodGo: you could use an ssh tunnel and not have to worry about the protocol.
[14:28] <AlexC> I have reported the bugs months ago.
[14:28] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntux.org/linux-hardware-compatibility-list Lovecats
[14:28] <AlexC> They dont get fixed.
[14:28] <Lovecats> than kyu baz!!!!
[14:28] <RodGo> Metuchen: you know what tools i should install to setup my proxy server
[14:28] <Itaku> when i do date it shows the date and time
[14:28] <Metuchen> you'll need iptables, and ssh
[14:28] <RodGo> and how do i setup the tunneling from my local pc to the proxy server
[14:28] <Bad_boy> hello guys: how do i find out my cd-rom path
[14:28] <Metuchen> and a linux box with two ports.
[14:28] <sinbox> ah well I hope so Jack_Sparrow I need to import the profile from my windows machine on it with all my mail in there as well
[14:29] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i do date it shows the date and time
[14:29] <snypzz> still trying to network to windows xp shared folders...
[14:29] <gaE4> autoreconf -isvf && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make
[14:29] <gaE4> autoreconf: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
[14:29] <gaE4> ???
[14:30] <wizo> lodi, i think i found the specs
[14:30] <wizo> it's in chinese
[14:30] <wizo> ..
[14:30] <Metuchen> Itaku: run: sudo date 03091030 (for eastern standard time)
[14:30] <Ashfire908> Do i have to do anything for daylight savings?
[14:30] <Metuchen> Ashfire: no.
[14:30] <snypzz> I see the windows pc's but unable to connect
[14:30] <Ashfire908> k
[14:30] <lodi> lol wizohttp://www.fujitsu-siemens.nl/products/mobile/notebooks/lifebook_s.html
[14:31] <snypzz> tcpip
[14:31] <Itaku> Metuchen: when i do it says timestamp too far in the future again
[14:31] <AlexC> Does anyone know a good alternative to Mozilla Thunderbird? I am not sure what happemned but ever since I upgrqaded my ubuntu to 7.10 thunderbird has become the worst program I have the displeasure of fighting with.
[14:31] <Metuchen> Itaku: dunno...
[14:31] <lodi> kmail perhaps alexc
[14:32] <Itaku> damnit stupid daylight savings time
[14:32] <RodGo> Metuchen: do you know how to configure iptables so that i can proxy my traffic to the vpn?
[14:32] <lodi> but have some experience with fujitsu hardware wizo and believe me by deafult maybe umts wont work but the rest will wizo
[14:32] <wizo> umts?
[14:32] <wizo> lodi, http://www.fujitsu.com/cn/services/hardware/pc/lifebook/s/s7211_specs.html
[14:33] <Metuchen> RodGo: yes...youll need to know the ports you're working with.
[14:33] <RodGo> xbox live is on port 3074
[14:33] <lodi> everything intel wizo
[14:33] <lodi> sound = realtek
[14:33] <Pensacola> can I just delete the .Xauthority dir in my home folder to get it recreated?
[14:33] <wizo> ok
[14:34] <wizo> so i should just do a run with my liveCD first?
[14:34] <AlexC> Does anyone know how to get the attention of the Thunderbird developers? They dont seem to read bug reports.
[14:34] <gaE4> plz anyone! i am at 2.2 downloaded and compressed the source and just created the folders. if i type autoreconf -isvf && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make this comes: autoreconf: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock#head-9f1c1489c0b90117c245507605062511fb81f22d
[14:34] <Metuchen> RodGo: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3074 -j DNAT --to-destination localhost
[14:34] <lodi> yes
[14:34] <wizo> wireless is intel yea?
[14:35] <lodi> and i expext everything to work
[14:35] <wizo> hope i get connections with it
[14:35] <wizo> lodi, i will try that right now
[14:35] <RodGo> Metuchen: i run that on my vps, right?
[14:35] <bazhang> AlexC: you might consider joining the mailing lists and air your complaints there or at the brainstorm.ubuntu.com site make some constructive suggestions ;]
[14:35] <wizo> hope to see you real soon, with irssi
[14:35] <lodi> ok fingers crossed wizo
[14:35] <lodi> lol
[14:35] <wizo> or whatever irc services they have
[14:35] <RodGo> and --to-destination == my actual ip, right
[14:35] <wizo> :D
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> AlexC, Please stop and move your discussion to offtopic
[14:35] <Metuchen> RodGo: then do "ssh -L 3074:<xbox-server>:3074 <user>@<remote-host>"
[14:35] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: any luck on my cpu core problem?
[14:36] <RodGo> xbox server?
[14:36] <Metuchen> RodGo: this must be on your "firewall" between your xbox and the internet.
[14:37] <grrrr2> I have proftp running on my ubuntu box and I try to share /media/disk. It doesn't work with symbolic links and I cannot set homedirectory to be /media/disk. Anyone know how to do this?
[14:37] <RodGo> wait, the ip tables command i must run on my vps to allow the routing from my local pc
[14:37] <Metuchen> grrrr: you need to use a "mount -o bind"
[14:37] <RodGo> but what you mean by <xbox-server>
[14:37] <RodGo> because i dont know the xbox servers ip
[14:37] <gaE4> what does configure.in and configure.ac do/mean?
[14:38] <Metuchen> RodGo: you'll need to figure that out unless your xbox can be setup to use a proxy.
[14:38] <Metuchen> RodGo: but you can use iptables's LOG target to figure it out.
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, Do you have build-essential and your kernel headers installed
[14:38] <jrib> gaE4: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf.html
[14:39] <RodGo> can't i just install a program that redirects all traffic to a specific socks proxy
[14:39] <RodGo> someone told me to do that on windows, but i use ubuntu
[14:39] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow hmm..?
[14:39] <RodGo> and i install a socks proxy on my vps
[14:39] <Metuchen> RodGo: problem is, your XBox would have to know how to use a socks proxy.
[14:40] <Metuchen> the ssh tunnel will "transparently" tunnel the traffic without caring about the underlying protocool.
[14:40] <hameed> RodGo: do you use a regular monitor?
[14:40] <slipttees> Chrome9 HC IGP work in gutsy ?
[14:40] <RodGo> monitor?
[14:40] <hameed> RodGo: what kind of display device do you use for your xbox?
[14:40] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow u read what i wrote before? this could help understand my problem.
[14:40] <bullgard4> In what file will Tracker store its indices?
[14:40] <jrib> bullgard4: ~/.cache/tracker/
[14:40] <RodGo> a tv
[14:41] <hameed> RodGo: isn't the resolution too low?
[14:41] <bazhang> WorkingOnWis1: try cat /proc/*cpu* and report how many cores you see
[14:41] <hameed> RodGo: is it possible to connect an xbox to a regular pc monitor?
[14:41] <RodGo> the problem is that this guys from microsoft are nazis with their content, so i cant download some maps for Gears Of Wars because i live in south america
[14:41] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, Yes, it looks like you are trying to compile a program (Assuming Nero)  and to do that you need what I already suggested
[14:41] <Pirate_Hunter> hello
[14:42] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: just one. processor     :0
[14:42] <whitekidney> Can anyone recommend a good program for making new partitions and resizing?
[14:42] <Pirate_Hunter> is there a way to get my nokia n73 to be picked up by vbox, i have installed the phone applications but vbox just gives me errors
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> gparted
[14:42] <hameed> whitekidney: gparted
[14:42] <bazhang> WorkingOnWis1: is this intel or amd?
[14:43] <bullgard4> jrib: Thank you very much for your help. --  I found them on my Ubuntu 7.10 computer.
[14:43] <whitekidney> thanks
[14:43] <RodGo> hey Metuchen, cant i do something like this "ssh -L 3074:*:3074 <user>@<remote-host>"
[14:43] <hameed> whitekidney: gparted is graphical and easy to use
[14:43] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: amd turion x2
[14:43] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow where can i see if i have already installed the build-essential and my kernel headers
[14:43] <whitekidney> hameed: does it support winxp?
[14:43] <RodGo> so that it redirects all traffic from that port to my vps
[14:43] <hameed> whitekidney: yes it does
[14:43] <Metuchen> RodGo: the "*" won't work.
[14:43] <whitekidney> free?
[14:43] <whitekidney> hameed : is it free?
[14:43] <cromag> hmm, i'm in xubuntu and having issues with restricted drivers. It will not get enabled. anyone had the same issue and got through with it ? :)=
[14:43] <Lovecats> hi can someone tell me if the NVidia Geforce 7000M is generally supported with Ubuntu
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, You would know if you already installed them
[14:43] <Metuchen> RodGo: and you'll need to redirect the traffic to that ssh tunnel.
[14:43] <hameed> whitekidney: i've been writing to my winxp ntfs partition for 2 years now
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[14:44] <ubotwo> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[14:44] <hameed> whitekidney: without a problem
[14:44] <Pirate_Hunter> hmmm wrong channel *oops
[14:44] <hameed> whitekidney: ofcourse it is free
[14:44] <RodGo> ok i got the xbox live ip
[14:44] <RodGo> its <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:44] <hameed> whitekidney: you can install it using the package manager (applications > add.remove)
[14:44] <whitekidney> Why doesnt ubuntu give me a chance to resize and make a new partition when installing it?
[14:44] <Metuchen> RodGo: ssh -L <port>:<IP_ADDRESS>:<port> <user>@<US-remote-host>
[14:44] <gaE4> Jack_Sparrow ah if u mean this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock#head-9f1c1489c0b90117c245507605062511fb81f22d yeah i installed i am at the 1st grey box u can see there;D
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> whitekidney, it does
[14:45] <whitekidney> It does not.
[14:45] <hameed> whitekidney: yeah, that's the only place where ubuntu annoyed me
[14:45] <Metuchen> rodgo: then use iptables to point your Xbox traffic to that ssh tunnel.
[14:45] <RodGo> and on the US remote host i run this
[14:45] <RodGo> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3074 -j DNAT --to-destination localhost
[14:45] <slipttees> I Have VIA Chrome9 HC IGP. On a native 1024x768 screen I am stuck with 800 x 600 resolution and no graphics acceleration, somewhere can help me ?
[14:45] <hameed> Jack_Sparrow: no it doesn
[14:45] <hameed> Jack_Sparrow: no it doesn't
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gaE4, You are running 64bit...
[14:45] <gaE4> Jack_sparrow yeah
[14:45] <RodGo> and then how i undo changes on my vps
[14:46] <Metuchen> RodGo: both those need to be run on your linux-based firewall.
[14:46] <Metuchen> RodGo: not the Us-based server.
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> hameed, The Uubntu live cd installer has a built in partitiong program and the partition editor is also available in the admin menu
[14:46] <bazhang> WorkingOnWis1: the fix I remember another user did was to put in the boot parameters acpi=off and also to adjust the bios so that the cool n' quiet (or somesuch) was disabled and for him it was fixed; dont know if this will help you or not: the thread on that is here--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645791&page=3
[14:46] <hameed> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, you're right
[14:46] <whitekidney> hameed : Can you recommend any good programs for resizing and making partitions INSIDE windows XP ?
[14:46] <gavi> folks where can i look, or what can i search to learn to restart a service on startup ~ubuntu 7
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:47] <hameed> whitekidney: it does, administration > partition editor
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> whitekidney, One of the best is Partition MAgic
[14:47] <RodGo> Metuchen: iptables v1.3.6: Bad IP address `localhost'
[14:47] <whitekidney> hameed: in windows xp! :p
[14:47] <whitekidney> Thanks jack
[14:47] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: so are all Ubuntu kernels nowadays SMP?
[14:47] <Metuchen> RodGo: then use "<IP_ADDRESS>" instead of localhost.
[14:47] <hameed> whitekidney: buy partition magic
[14:48] <jrib> gaE4: pastebin the output of 'ls; autoreconf -isvf'
[14:48] <bazhang> the generic one is WorkingOnWis1; capable of supporting smp that is
[14:48] <hameed> whitekidney: I personally run xp in virtualbox which is free
[14:48] <whitekidney> virtual pc?
[14:48] <whitekidney> imo that sucks
[14:48] <hameed> whitekidney: for me it's convenient, i only use xp for compiling for win32
[14:49] <hameed> whitekidney: what's more xp runs faster in virtualbox!!!
[14:49] <seanbello> how do i typecurly brackets in gedit?
[14:49] <WorkingOnWis1> bazhang: ok. thanks a bunch. Man, this thing Is fast! I only noticed it because I couldn't get the second cpu graph in System Monitor!
[14:50] <whitekidney> hameed : Do ya want to help me installing drivers and stuff ? :p
[14:50] <Metuchen> seanbello: SHIFT+[ doesn't work for you?
[14:50] <seanbello> no
[14:50] <hameed> whitekidney: wish i could, but i'm a noob
[14:50] <whitekidney> hameed : youre not a noob :p
[14:51] <hameed> whitekidney: i do maintain some debian packages but for the under the hood stuff i'm a noob
[14:51] <whitekidney> i remember jack sparrow helped me long ago :D
[14:51] <whitekidney> when my name was Spzatt :p
[14:51] <tntcoda> hi, if i have vnc server running and can access it locally but not externally. What do i need to enable? The ports are forwared and hosts.allow is correct
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[14:51] <Lovecats> how do determine my battery life remaining (on this laptop running ubu 7.10)
[14:51] <Metuchen> tntcoda: be sure you don't have a firewall enabled.
[14:52] <Metuchen> tntcoda: try iptables -vL
[14:52] <hameed> Lovecats: there is the battery monitor
[14:52] <Lovecats> oh lol
[14:52] <Lovecats> sorry
[14:52] <hameed> Lovecats: right click the top panel
[14:52] <Lovecats> im 1/2 asleep :D
[14:52] <hameed> Lovecats: then, add to panel
[14:52] <tntcoda> I dont Metuchen :( i was wondering if it could be a vnc config issue?
[14:52] <Lovecats> its already there rofl (no coffee yet) :D
[14:53] <whitekidney> i got a question, when downloading keyloggers from websites when browsing, will it be like.. putting a swedish guy in japan, like he doesnt know where the *beep* he is?
[14:53] <Metuchen> tntcoda: dunno offhand...
[14:53] <hameed> Lovecats: :D
[14:53] <s0u][ight> hello i got a question what are differences between a wubi installed and a boot installed ubuntu
[14:53] <s0u][ight> gusty
[14:54] <cpainchaud> hello
[14:55] <wizo> lodi?
[14:55] <hameed> what are the most linux compatible laptop brands?
[14:56] <cpainchaud> my DELL  has its harware 100% compatible right now :D
[14:56] <Metuchen> hameed: they're all compatible...just stay away from the "esoteric" hardware...
[14:56] <hameed> I got compaq and am happy with it, but I'm going to buy a new one
[14:56] <cpainchaud> had anyone noticed that amarok eats 10% CPU while idling ?
[14:56] <hameed> what about mac books?
[14:56] <solexious> [Q] How can I place a link on my desktop to a folder?
[14:56] <wizo> lodi: i'm using the liveCD right now :D
[14:56] <Metuchen> hameed: should work just fine, but I haven't tried it.
[14:56] <hameed> Metuchen: what do you mean "esoteric"?
[14:56] <ryanakca> cpainchaud: no... doesn't do that here... by idling you mean not playing? It might be rescanning your collection
[14:57] <CapaH> Does anyone here have an IPHONE, and do you know if you can get music/video on it with Linux ?
[14:57] <Metuchen> hameed: sony tends to put really weird hardware that nobody else uses in their machines...
[14:57] <Metuchen> hameed: that stuff tends not to work.
[14:57] <cpainchaud> ryanakca: no my installation is brand new, nothing tho scan here, and HDD is not working now
[14:57] <cpainchaud> and yes i mean not playing
[14:57] <ryanakca> cpainchaud: heh, odd ;)
[14:57] <ryanakca> Can someone help me figure out why (K)Ubuntu doesn't recognize my CD/DVD drive? see output of cdrecord -scanbus  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58993/
[14:58] <lodi> hey wizo
[14:58] <cpainchaud> I am using ubuntu 8 ....
[14:58] <hameed> Metuchen: hmm... I booted a sony vaio with knoppix and the wireless and ethernet got recognized out of the box
[14:58] <cpainchaud> i know its not stable :D but still ... its odd :d
[14:58] <lodi> wifi i presume?
[14:58] <wizo> lodu :D yea wifi!
[14:58] <lodi> out of the box? wizo
[14:58] <wizo> i clicked on that icon and it listed the wireless networks
[14:58] <wizo> i was shocked :O
[14:58] <lodi> lol
[14:59] <IceWewe> is there a package I can install to enable CPU frequency scaling without recompiling the kernel?
[14:59] <lodi> it does that to a person wizo
[14:59] <wizo> one word was screaming in my mind, and that was "sweet"
[14:59] <Metuchen> hameed: yeah...those things tend to be fine, but in my experience, some of the "multimedia" stuff won't work well.
[14:59] <lodi> hhhhhhhh
[14:59] <hameed> Metuchen: i see
[14:59] <wizo> now i gotta run some videos to see how it goes
[14:59] <Blissex> IceWewe: what does that mean? Which kernel?
[14:59] <lodi> now you can click the installer icon and start installing wizo
[14:59] <sherkin> Hi,
[14:59] <wizo> haha
[14:59] <IceWewe> Blissex: 2.6.24-10-generic
[14:59] <wizo> but i needa go resize a partition
[14:59] <sherkin> I'm puzzled with gpilot
[15:00] <lodi> and while that runs you can just keep chatting
[15:00] <hameed> Metuchen: next time i wanna try macbooks since os x is itself kind of unix...
[15:00] <Blissex> IceWewe: why would you want to recompile that?
[15:00] <Avenger> hello, i can't ignore, what am i doing wrong?
[15:00] <IceWewe> Blissex: I'd like to throttle the two CPUs on the machine in question to run at a lower speed/voltage
[15:00] <lodi> what kind of a partition?
[15:00] <sherkin> I can't configure it to synchronize
[15:00] <Blissex> IceWewe: the standard Ubuntu kernels have CPU scaling built in.
[15:00] <hameed> Metuchen: ubuntu on mac book
[15:00] <IceWewe> Blissex: to include a userspace governor
[15:00] <wizo> fujitsu split my hdd into 2
[15:00] <wizo> one for C, and i have another D drive
[15:00] <Metuchen> hameed: it should work fine, but I haven't tried.
[15:00] <sherkin> Here are some commands I tried
[15:00] <wizo> so i guess i'm gonna split the D
[15:00] <IceWewe> Blissex: do I have to load a module? My CPUs are not currently being throttled
[15:00] <sherkin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59001
[15:01] <lodi> what size is that, and what filesystem wizo?
[15:01] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[15:01] <wizo> lodi, each is now about 75
[15:01] <sherkin> Could someone help me ?
[15:01] <wizo> and most probably ntfs
[15:01] <Blissex> IceWewe: probably because they can't. CPU scaling is autodetected by Ubuntu.
[15:01] <IceWewe> Blissex: both cpufreq and powernowd refuse to scale
[15:01] <wizo> so i gotta shrink the D and create err, E ?
[15:01] <IceWewe> Blissex: but I happen to know that these CPUs can be throttled
[15:01] <wizo> a,b,c,d,e
[15:01] <Blissex> IceWewe: try using 'cpufreq-info' and 'cpufreq-set' to check things.
[15:01] <wizo> guess it would be e
[15:01] <IceWewe> Blissex: this machine has two Xeons in it
[15:02] <Blissex> IceWewe: Not so sure that you can scale Xeons, the ACPI and chipset have to support it.,
[15:02] <wizo> oh btw one questoin, i have a dual core here
[15:02] <wizo> does it matter?
[15:02] <IceWewe> Blissex: "No cpufreqd socket found"
[15:02] <lodi> no it wotrks hhh
[15:02] <gavi> folks where can i look, or what can i search to learn to restart a service on startup ~ubuntu 7
[15:02] <gerro> anyone here have trouble with 7.10 and nvidia 7300gs?
[15:02] <Blissex> IceWewe: then perhaps you haven't started the scaling daemon.
[15:02] <lodi> let me think
[15:03] <Blissex> IceWewe: what happens if you just say 'sudo cpufreq-set -g conservative'
[15:03] <IceWewe> Blissex: "22460 ?        Ssl    0:00 cpufreqd"
[15:03] <dda> hi people! is there a way to use webcam installed on another machine? I mean use in ekiga, skype, etc..
[15:03] <lodi> i think the smartest thing to do is boot vista , see what these c and partitions are wizo
[15:03] <IceWewe> Blissex: "wrong, unknown or unhandled CPU?"
[15:03] <wizo> lodi, C is where the OS is installed, D has nothing in it
[15:03] <Blissex> IceWewe: bad news...
[15:03] <solexious> [Q] How can I place a link on my desktop to a folder?
[15:04] <wizo> execpt a folder called "my work"
[15:04] <IceWewe> Blissex: so no CPU/chipset ACPI support...
[15:04] <gerro> gavi: apt-get install sysvconf and run that
[15:04] <Blissex> IceWewe: have you had a look at 'cpufreq-info'?
[15:04] <IceWewe> Blissex: "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU"
[15:04] <hameed> drag and drop holding down the middle mouse button
[15:04] <gerro> gavi: it allows you to manage startup services "init" with the sys v style ubuntu uses
[15:04] <tremby> any ideas why i might suddenly be getting no sound in my front-right channel? i haven't done any updates today and last night it was fine. i've verified that it's the soundcard's output rather than the speaker or amplifier.
[15:04] <lodi> then you start the installer, remove the d partition, and have the installer automatically partition the free space
[15:04] <sherkin> Could someone help me with Palm/gpilot configuration ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59001/
[15:04] <sherkin> TIA
[15:04] <hameed> solexious: drag and drop holding down the middle mouse button then add link
[15:05] <wizo> lodi, so it can partition the D drive by itself? even if it's 75 gig ntfs right now?
[15:05] <solexious> hameed: thank you
[15:05] <Blissex> IceWewe: well, looks like it is not supported. As a last resort try 'modprobe acpi-cpufreq'
[15:05] <hameed> solexious: drag and drop with the middle button
[15:05] <lodi> yes
[15:05] <wizo> there's a folder in there, should i be worried about it?
[15:05] <mariamystar> hi,i have a small sound issue. my sound seems to work fine, but when i try to use programs such as hydrogen or ardour the sound isnt working. i do have a jack session started so i'm not sure what the problem is
[15:05] <lodi> no
[15:05] <gerro> wizo: you trying to resize an ntfs partition?
[15:05] <IceWewe> Blissex: error, no such module...
[15:06] <gavi> grrrr2,  thanks
[15:06] <Blissex> IceWewe: but you should investigate if your motherboard support scaling at all, and then which Linux driver may support it. Xeon looks like not so hot :-).
[15:06] <wizo> or should i create a "E" and then use the 30gig E partiton for ubuntu
[15:06] <G3N10U5> greetings everyone :)\
[15:06] <wizo> gerro, nah, just wondering if i should use the windows app to create another partitoin or just use the installer to
[15:06] <potato> i have a problem with compiz fusion i reinstalled it but when i go to click on the advanced graphics shortcut, it does not say that any more instead its compiz config setting manager but if i click on it it doesnt open up what should i do?
[15:06] <TameLion> ello o/
[15:06] <Blissex> IceWewe: that's very odd. do 'ls "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq" so see what you got.
[15:06] <solexious> hameed: Cool, that didnt work but both left and right did, ty
[15:07] <diesello> ello
[15:07] <IceWewe> Blissex: cannot access, no such file or directory
[15:07] <Metuchen> 'lo
[15:07] <G3N10U5> how is ppl ?
[15:07] <amenado> does booting of copied liveCD iso into a hard disk requires this partition to be EXT2 only? I can not get it to work using EXT3 ..
[15:07] <IceWewe> G3N10U5: not bad
[15:07] <gerro> wizo: I wouldn't trust the windows app because what windows user that doesn't use a laptop you know of that has more than one partition?
[15:07] <Blissex> IceWewe: are your kernel packages installed correctly? Doesn't look like.
[15:07] <G3N10U5> excellent
[15:07] <s0nix> hi, im searching a combo apps for burning DVD to DVD. (like DVD Decryptor and Shrink  on windows)
[15:07] <ompaul> !hi | G3N10U5
[15:07] <G3N10U5> never been here before
[15:07] <hameed> solexious: np
[15:07] <IceWewe> Blissex: I don't know... this is pretty much a stock install
[15:07] <G3N10U5> woke up early, decided to explore
[15:07] <IceWewe> Blissex: if it matters at all, this is 8.04 beta...
[15:07] <Blissex> gerro: it does not matter because you can always convert 'ext2' to 'ext3'
[15:08] <ompaul> !hi | G3N10U5
[15:08] <TameLion> G3N10U5: it's a strange and wonderful place..
[15:08] <lodi> sry wizo phone
[15:08] <G3N10U5> :) ola
[15:08] <Blissex> IceWewe: Ahhhh, you are a developer. Then you know what you are doing, and I cannot help :-).
[15:08] <wizo> gerro, ey? i was thinking of the partitioner that comes with vista
[15:08] <gavi> gerro, i dont have the package.. what do i add to get this in my respitry
[15:08] <narothepharoh> every time i convert a movie to iso with devede the sound is messed up any ideas
[15:08] <G3N10U5> strange and wonderful
[15:08] <G3N10U5> sounds good to me
[15:08] <wizo> lodi, it's ok :D
[15:08] <lodi> i would delete the d partition
[15:08] <gerro> Blissex: no clue what you talking about
[15:08] <potato> i have a problem with compiz fusion i reinstalled it but when i go to click on the advanced graphics shortcut, it does not say that any more instead its compiz config setting manager but if i click on it it doesn't open up what should i do?
[15:08] <IceWewe> Blissex: pff, me, a developer? Don't I wish.
[15:08] <lodi> and have the installer partition the free space t its needs
[15:08] <Blissex> gerro: then why are you using unreleased software? :-)
[15:08] <ubotwo> G3N10U5: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:08] <gerro> wizo: try gpart
[15:09] <wizo> lodi, you've been here for quite a while yea? i recall seeing you here when i was using ubuntu 6.04 or something
[15:09] <wizo> lodi, hmmm
[15:09] <Blissex> IceWeve: why are you using unreleased software? :-)
[15:09] <G3N10U5> im a student, workin my way up, tryin to learn what i can, but i'll try to rtfman first and not ask dumb questions
[15:09] <amenado> does booting of copied liveCD iso into a hard disk requires this partition to be EXT2 only? I can not get it to work using EXT3 ..
[15:09] <IceWewe> Blissex: because I didn't want to have to upgrade Mythbuntu in April...
[15:09] <lodi> lol
[15:09] <gavi> gerro, i dont have the package.. what do i add to get this in my respitry
[15:09] <gerro> wizo: I mean gparted
[15:09] <wizo> but i want some space for my windows too
[15:09] <lodi> thats the 75 other gigs
[15:09] <narothepharoh> whats a good program other than devede to convert video files?
[15:09] <Blissex> IceWewe: also note that there is '#Ubunt+1' channel IIRC
[15:09] <IceWewe> Blissex: yes, I'm aware of that...
[15:09] <gerro> wizo: if its not in your repository then your not running ubuntu
[15:09] <wizo> awww, i dont wanna put my back up things with C drive
[15:09] <bazhang> G3N10U5: this is not that kind of channel; if you have an issue please ask away ;]
[15:10] <wizo> cause if i format i'll be formatting C
[15:10] <ompaul> IceWewe, that is for ----all--- hardy support ;-)
[15:10] <wizo> lol
[15:10] <potato> i have a problem with compiz fusion i reinstalled it but when i go to click on the advanced graphics shortcut, it does not say that any more instead its compiz config setting manager but if i click on it it doesn't open up what should i do?
[15:10] <bazhang> potato: how did you reinstall it and why?
[15:10] <mariamystar> i'm having trouble getting sound to work with certain applications. anybody got any ideas?
[15:10] <potato> add remove
[15:10] <IceWewe> ompaul: yup, I'm aware of that. But there are more people giving advice in here ;-)
[15:10] <lodi> and ehat you could also do is create in the free space a /data or so using fat32
[15:10] <konami> hola
[15:10] <potato> and why becouse it wouldent work in the frst place bazhang
[15:10] <G3N10U5> actually just got 2 new boxes the other day, server2003r2 installed fine, unbuntu server 7 had a weird error and didn't do **** all... redhat enterprise 5 installed fine tho
[15:10] <IceWewe> ompaul: besides, scaling should be independent of version...
[15:10] <lodi> vista and ubuntu can then share that
[15:11] <bazhang> IceWewe: best to listen to that advice...
[15:11] <wizo> quite true
[15:11] <IceWewe> bazhang: yeah, I'm in ubuntu+1 too....
[15:11] <dda> is there a way to use webcam installed on another machine?
[15:11] <wizo> i better go take a look at what is in the D drive again
[15:11] <wizo> brb!
[15:11] <lodi> good luck
[15:11] <ompaul> IceWewe, +1 for you after all if they break it they will know first
[15:11] <wizo> :d
[15:11] <wizo> :D
[15:12] <IceWewe> ompaul: yup...
[15:12] <Blissex> IceWewe: also try 'apt-file search acpi-cpufreq'
[15:12] <bazhang> potato: and does not work? could you please be precise? do you have the proper 3D drivers for your card installed and how did you start compiz up etc
[15:12] <Avenger> dda, nobody here will tell you how to gain control of some other PC's webcam
[15:12] <G3N10U5> lol
[15:12] <CapaH> Does anyone here know how to get itunes to work with ubuntu?
[15:12] <gerro> Avenger: why not? I have a remote webcam over http its rather nice
[15:13] <gerro> Avenger: there also some tricks with webcams and voip you can use very fun ^^
[15:13] <potato> ok at first it worked fine bazhang but i installed the floting windows screensaver and it startting acting up from ther
[15:13] <IceWewe> gerro: privacy
[15:13] <Avenger> because he/she could use it to spy over some poor bastard
[15:13] <dda> Avenger, IceWewe - no
[15:13] <gerro> IceWewei: if they standing in front of your webcam on your property then is no such thing :P
[15:13] <G3N10U5> there are trojans which will allow for remote connections, sometimes without someone knowing... or you can use a remote access program if you intend to do it legally
[15:13] <dda> both PCs are mine
[15:13] <dda> on the same LAN
[15:13] <IceWewe> dda: then install a webcam daemon
[15:14] <G3N10U5> ^
[15:14] <dda> but webcam is buggy in linux, so I thought I could install it on other PC (windows) and use as networked
[15:14] <martiini> how do I open console in kde4 dolphin?
[15:14] <Avenger> G3N10U5, i don't know what "legally" meanbs for you,  but even using a remote access program is illegal in all Europe
[15:14] <G3N10U5> some PC webcam programs broadcast on a port
[15:14] <gerro> dda: yeah dda that sounds good but why you asking here though this isn't a windows chat