[12:52] <olympiakos> does anybody know how can i create 2 images side by side with gimp?
[12:52] <Heltskay> Ok will do :)
[12:53] <dr_willis> olympiakos,  cut/paste and drag it over?
[12:53] <Vinceman> psypher246 where you could plug in a big phone cable..
[12:53] <dr_willis> well copy/paste
[12:53] <olympiakos> really?
[12:53] <T|N> gente alguien me puede decir como es el canal de ubuntu en español
[12:53] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, ok primary partition, but there are choices says p primary part. (1-4)
[12:53] <Vinceman> you mean there's a built in modem in my PC?!
[12:53] <allsystemsarego> olympiakos, www.kidsnetsoft.com/gimp/tutorial.pdf
[12:53] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, choose 1.
[12:53] <Sajuukkhar> so i type p 1?
[12:53] <psypher246> Vinceman: i rthink i know what you are talking about, i think that is like some kind of legacy usb, saw it once on a pc never used it
[12:54] <T|N> gente alguien me puede decir como es el canal de ubuntu en español?
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> !spanish
[12:54] <T|N> gracias!
[12:54] <Roland123> dr_willis: actually i don't want to just try it.. i'd like to switch to it... i have kubuntu on my laptop an like i much more than gnome.... but this computer(at the work) is not only for me.. and somebody may still want gnome
[12:54] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, I am now on the 'first cylinder' I dont understand
[12:54] <michal_> join#ubuntu-pl
[12:54] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, hit enter twice .
[12:54] <psypher246> Vinceman: you not talking about the lan port are you?
[12:54] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, now what?
[12:54] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, it's how large and where you want the partition.
[12:54] <W8TAH> i have an .m4a file out of itunes i need to play on my ubuntu laptop -- amarok says no decoder available - what do i need to install?
[12:54] <michal_> #ubuntu-pl
[12:55] <Sajuukkhar> oh ok sweet :) thx for explaining that
[12:55] <wiretapped> vlc?
[12:55] <W8TAH> wiretapped: ok
[12:55] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no more questions? then you'd press w <enter> to write the new table. note, you'll lose all your data!
[12:55] <dr_willis> Roland123,  then Kubuntu-desktop and Kubuntu-restricted-extras will get ya going.. there are other kubuntu/kde packages you may want as well in the repos
[12:55] <michal_> join #ubuntu-pl
[12:55] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, on that disc ofcourse
[12:55] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, its a brand new disc of 500 gig
[12:55] <wiretapped> if vlc, i would prefer that
[12:55] <Vinceman> test
[12:55] <Vinceman> please reply to my message
[12:55] <Vinceman> my girl's name is Ruth
[12:55] <Vinceman> hi
[12:56] <wiretapped> personally
[12:56] <FloodBot2> Vinceman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <michal_> #ubuntu-pl
[12:56] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, alright, then it's safe to press w and then enter.
[12:56] <hischild> !ot | Vinceman
[12:56] <Vinceman> i was just testing something
[12:56] <Iradieh> Excuse me, could I have someone to try out my game? SDL libs are required, just run make and the binary. Source is there as well, just take a look
[12:56] <Vinceman> did my girl's name come over?
[12:56] <hischild> Vinceman, not in here.
[12:56] <wiretapped> vinceman: yes
[12:56] <Vinceman> but your replies didn't come back
[12:56] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, im back at the command prompt of fdisk for my 500gig
[12:56] <michal_> join#ubuntu-pl
[12:56] <allsystemsarego> W8TAH, rename the file with extension mpg and try again
[12:56] <Roland123> dr_willis: kmail, kopete are included in those 2?
[12:57] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, yes, that's where you press w and then press enter to write the new table.
[12:57] <Roland123> dr_willis: which version of kde will it install?
[12:57] <wiretapped> is there a ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:57] <hischild> wiretapped, yes.
[12:57] <Sajuukkhar> ok cool, then what? its back to /dev/
[12:57] <catmando> how the heck do you increase the scrollback buffer on a tty?
[12:57] <wiretapped> wt is it
[12:57] <Sajuukkhar> is it done and dusted?
[12:57] <dr_willis> Roland123,  if you are on 8.10 it will be kde4
[12:57] <W8TAH> allsystemsarego: ok
[12:57] <Roland123> 8.04 installs 3.5?
[12:58] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, yeah. Now you have to create a file system on it. Why don't you get something like gparted btw? So much easier.
[12:58] <SlimeyPete> 8.04 uses 3.5, yes
[12:58] <Roland123> ok, thnx
[13:00] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, cos im running ubuntu server
[13:00] <Sajuukkhar> and worst of all I haven't got a monitor for it
[13:00] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, ah explains. Ok so now lets create a filesystem on it then! which one do you want?
[13:00] <Sajuukkhar> one for my Samba filesharing server :D
[13:01] <Vinceman> what ok?
[13:01] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, yeah, but ext3, xfs, ntfs, fat32 ... which one :)
[13:01] <Sajuukkhar> thx for the awesome help hischild, you are doing me wonders
[13:01] <Sajuukkhar> i dont know.... wot would you choose?
[13:01] <Sajuukkhar> even better, wots the difference?
[13:01] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, its fine, i like to help. You're actually listening, which makes all the difference
[13:01] <Sajuukkhar> its just storing data but in different ways yeah?
[13:02] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, oh yeah, you mind putting my name in front of all replies? makes it so much easier to read then. NTFS is windows only, has some slower speeds but can be read by all systems. Ext3 is journaling, as with XFS. Main difference is that ext3 is a better all round filesystem where XFS is faster with thousands of small files.
[13:03] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, samba will make it transparent anyway, so you don't have to take into account what your target system is.
[13:03] <Sajuukkhar> hischild ok wot about Fat32?
[13:03] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, 4gb file size limit, but is generally stable. Wouldn't recommend it though, there's much better ones.
[13:04] <erno> is it possible to run a 64bit in a 32bit ubuntu kvm?
[13:04] <jim_p> anyone using network config for his/her wireless needs? http://network-config.sourceforge.net/site/home.php
[13:04] <Sajuukkhar> hischild yeah 500 / 4 partitions... blerrgh!  anyway if i formatted it into ext3, would it be readable  on a windows machine?
[13:04] <ZeroA4> erno, no...
[13:04] <hischild> erno, depends on which virtualisation software you're using.
[13:04] <jim_p> erno, nope
[13:04] <Sajuukkhar> if i took the hdd out of the server and took it to me to say a LAN or something
[13:04] <MiraiWarren0_0> I was using e17 window manager lately but had reason to use gnome recently.  When I tried to launch blender in a terminal, it didn't launch.  Later after starting any random programs, gnome-settings-daemon shuts down.
[13:05] <MiraiWarren0_0> I will file a bug report later today.
[13:05] <jim_p> erno, 32 bit hosts can only host 32 bit guests
[13:05] <MiraiWarren0_0> Any ideas what happened?
[13:05] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, yeah, as samba makes it transparent which file system you're using on the server.
[13:05] <Sajuukkhar> hischild if so, I will do an ext3
[13:05] <hischild> jim_p, you can run 64bit ones on vmware while using a 32bit host.
[13:05] <jim_p> MiraiWarren0_0, did it pop some error in the terminal?
[13:05] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, do you know which device is your 500gb disc?
[13:06] <jim_p> hischild, are you sure? this is a bit... out of the pc world
[13:06] <hischild> jim_p, yeah i'm sure. Was surprised, it's slow as hell, but it'll work.
[13:06] <erno> ohhhhhh k thanks dude, i'm pissed though
[13:06] <Decepticon> how do i watch a log file like with less, but see it updated as more data is added to this log file
[13:06] <Sajuukkhar> hischild im pretty sure
[13:06] <jim_p> hischild, oh ok. at least we know its slow
[13:06] <wjz> hao
[13:06] <erno> *dudes
[13:06] <MiraiWarren0_0> jim_p: no, it did not even show a terminal.
[13:06] <wjz> hi
[13:06] <rww> Decepticon: tail -F filename
[13:06] <Sajuukkhar> hischild how do I check the sizes of both hard drives?
[13:06] <jim_p> MiraiWarren0_0, you said you launched blender from the terminal right?
[13:07] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, pretty sure isn't good enough, do this --> sudo fdisk -l <--
[13:07] <Decepticon> thanks rww
[13:07] <Sajuukkhar> I got sdb which is 160 gig
[13:07] <Sajuukkhar> hischild but my sda doesn't give me a size, just a start and an end numbe
[13:07] <MiraiWarren0_0> jim_p: no I used the gnome .desktop launcher for blender in a window but used the run in terminal option.
[13:08] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, and is sdb marked with a * under boot?
[13:08] <erno> is it possible to update a 32bit os to a 64bit os?
[13:08] <Sajuukkhar> hischild sdb2 is yes
[13:08] <rww> erno: no
[13:08] <erno> damn
[13:08] <jim_p> MiraiWarren0_0, can you launch blender from the terminal and look for errors
[13:08] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, and is the blocks somewhere around 500000000 for sda?
[13:08] <Sajuukkhar> hischild I fubar'd the partition on my sdb so it still has its windows partitions
[13:08] <erno> sucks man, so i really have to reinstall my whole system
[13:08] <jim_p> rww, really?? when i install 2GB more of ram i have to reformat!?!?!?
[13:09] <rww> jim_p: yes?!?!???!
[13:09] <MiraiWarren0_0> jim_p: I have tried that and nothing showed up that was abnormal.
[13:09] <hischild> jim_p, you can run a 64bit kernel on a 32bit OS, but you'd still run a 32bit OS.
[13:09] <Sajuukkhar> hischild oh wow
[13:09] <jim_p> rww, damn!
[13:09] <rww> jim_p: assuming by "install 2GB more of ram" you mean "want 64-bit ubuntu"
[13:09] <Vinceman> it is weird though, it says there are six usb ports on my system, yet I only see three
[13:10] <dr_willis> Vinceman,  some can be internal/headers with no real ports.
[13:10] <Sajuukkhar> hischild LOL, yes, dont worry im being stupid its 12 am :D
[13:10] <jim_p> rww, i thought apt was intelligent enough to do so. yea 2 more GB and i jump to the 64bit worls
[13:10] <jim_p> *world
[13:10] <Sajuukkhar> hischild yes sda1 has 500 gig (roughly)
[13:10] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, that's fine. So, we need to create a filesystem on /dev/sda1, which will be ext3. correct?
[13:10] <rww> jim_p: apt would have to replace every binary in the OS, including itself, to upgrade you to 64-bit Ubuntu. It's intelligent enough to not do so.
[13:11] <jim_p> rww, true. neve thought of that occasion
[13:11] <Sajuukkhar> hischild can it be read on a windows machine if I put it in my windows comp?
[13:11] <Sajuukkhar> hischild thats if it is in ext3?
[13:11] <fivetwentysix> jim_p: Just back up your home folder and format :_P
[13:11] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, if you plug that drive onto a windows pc directly, no. Over a network via samba? yes.
[13:12] <Sajuukkhar> hischild ah
[13:12] <rww> jim_p: alternatives: 1) Physical Address Extension, 2) 64-bit kernel on 32-bit machine. Personally, I just went with 64-bit to start with, so I don't know how well those alternatives work, or how to do them.
[13:12] <Sajuukkhar> hischild meh ext3 it is
[13:12] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, easy command --> mke2fs -j /dev/sda1
[13:12] <Decepticon> sometimes when i restart and login, conky will not be started, and sometimes it will.... ive added it to startup apps via the sessions dialog.... is there a better way than this haphazard method
[13:12] <jim_p> fivetwentysix, its not the home folder only. there are a zilion of other settings i have to do again
[13:12] <rww> jim_p: on 32-bit Ubuntu **
[13:12] <Sajuukkhar> hischild thats a fdisk command?
[13:12] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no, that's a terminal command. You should be outside of fdisk by now.
[13:13] <jim_p> rww, well the kernel change is some relief
[13:13] <Sajuukkhar> hischild WHEEEE! its writing inode tables
[13:13] <Sajuukkhar> hischild if you were here with me, I would pass you a beer :D
[13:13] <Decepticon> sometimes when i restart and login, conky will not be started, and sometimes it will.... ive added it to startup apps via the sessions dialog.... is there a better way than this haphazard method
[13:14] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, haha yeah. Then you create a mount point for it and mount it.
[13:14] <hischild> Decepticon, it'll always start, but X needs to be loaded. create a script that does sleep 5 and then start conky
[13:14] <Sajuukkhar> hischild sweet can you pass the commands and such? while its doing wot its doing?
[13:14] <dr_willis> Decepticon,  when it 'dosent' start - check the running processes.. it may be its running but is BELOW the gnome desktop.. Conky and gnome can have issues...
[13:15] <jim_p> oh well... i needed a format for 64 bit xp, now i need a complete renovation :P
[13:15] <Decepticon> dr_willis when i say it doesnt start, i mean ithat it probably started and died because like hischild said, X hadnt loaded up completely...
[13:15] <Sajuukkhar> hischild then I have to work out how to repath the samba to the new hdd, which will be a little fun
[13:15] <Decepticon> conky will not run without X, dr_willis
[13:15] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, sudo mkdir /media/data && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/data <--- that'll mount the disc to /media/data
[13:16] <rww> Decepticon: iirc, stuff in Sessions loads when GNOME initializes, after X has already started
[13:16] <ngirard> Hi all, as you may know, Texlive 2008 packaging for ubuntu is far from beeing ready, and I need it. Therefore I'd like to remove all my old texlive packets, then install TeXlive 2008 by hand. Problem is, I'd like to keep kile installed, and kile depends from texlive. Is there a way of removine the texlive paquets while keeping kile ?
[13:16] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, to automount it, add this line to /etc/fstab --> /dev/sda1    /media/data    ext3   defaults    0    0
[13:16] <Sajuukkhar> hischild ok its done lets do this :D
[13:16] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, i'm still working on figuring samba out. Got the workgroup and shares working here, but there's so much more to do with it.
[13:16] <ngirard> join #kubuntu
[13:17] <lat> Can messing up one of the networking files cause the home directory to be unreadable by the file browser?
[13:17] <Sajuukkhar> hischild how do i make that mount automatic? I heard I have to make that auto matic?
[13:17] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, add the line i gave you above to /etc/fstab. It'll automount each time you reboot.
[13:17] <psypher246> simplexio: how do i install burnbx?
[13:18] <Sajuukkhar> hischild so mount /dev/sda1 /etc/fstab?
[13:18] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no. sudo nano /etc/fstab, then go down to the bottom, and add that line.
[13:19] <Sajuukkhar> hischild oh i didn't see that line, i have mIRC hard to see, all the time
[13:19] <dr_willis> Decepticon,  ive never heard of things getting ran from the Startup/AUtostart/Sessions   BEFOR X loads. Unless Theres somthing I am missing.
[13:19] <Decepticon> dr_willis well the sleep thing takes care of it. so thank you hischild
[13:20] <Decepticon> i slept 15
[13:20] <Decepticon> dr_willis im guessing some component of gnome's desktop needs to be completely initialized before conky can start
[13:20] <Sajuukkhar> hischild done done :) now to repath samba
[13:21] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no prob. samba config is in /etc/samba/smb.conf. YOu'll figure it out, i'm sure.
[13:21] <Sajuukkhar> aye
[13:21] <hischild> !pm | jbeitler
[13:21] <dr_willis> Decepticon,   from what i gather with the conky docs/faq. the way gnome does the icons/root window on the desktop. can cover up conky or other apps that try to draw to the root  window layer.
[13:21] <Sajuukkhar> hischild you are too kind :) thx for helping me out, been waiting for a long time for it
[13:21] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no prob.
[13:22] <Decepticon> dr_willis thats unusual because whenver this problem occurs i do ps aux | grep conky and see nothing
[13:22] <Decepticon> either conky tried to start and died or... it just didnt laucnh
[13:22] <lat> My file browser can access any directory on the file system except my personal home directory (which caused the file browser to crash).  What can cause this?
[13:22] <dr_willis> Decepticon,  I think conky has some logging features.. but ive not used it in ages..
[13:22] <Decepticon> dr_willis its no biggie, the sleep function has taken care of it i believe
[13:23] <Sajuukkhar> hischild oh im at map network drive in windows, wot folder am I going to share again?
[13:24] <Sajuukkhar> hischild nm :D
[13:24] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, don't know how you edited your samba config. restart samba (sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart) and wait a minute or 2. then see if you can find the new share in network places.
[13:24] <Sajuukkhar> hischild I fixed it, I was, again, being stupid and tired
[13:25] <obhk____> hi guys, I know how to use top to kill processes, but if my computer is really stuck, is there anything I can do to kill the process that is causing it?
[13:25] <Sajuukkhar> hischild i bow before your helpfulness, hopefully something good will happen to you today, you just got me a backup file system for everyone in my family :D
[13:25] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: have you identified the process?
[13:26] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, that's very kind of you. Something good is going to happen, i'm going to a concert of my favorite band tonight!
[13:26] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: well, yes, it's a simulation I run
[13:26] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: if you know the process id number, "kill -9 id_number" should kill it e.g. "kill -9 1017"
[13:26] <Sajuukkhar> hischild I hope it goes well for you, and on that note (bad pun) I bid you good day/morning/night/evening
[13:27] <serdar> hello
[13:27] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: the problem is that if my computer is stuck, I can't enter that command anymore on the shell :s
[13:27] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, haha you've seen me leaving i  guess. Yeah, i'm also seeing a girl tonight .. hope all goes well ... :-) thanks!
[13:27] <serdar> the pulseaudio init script don't do anything, right?
[13:28] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: in windows, Ctrl-Alt-Del kind of halts all current processes and let you choose which one to terminate
[13:28] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: Oh. Blimey, really badly stuck then. You can't get to a standard tty (i.e. press ctrl-alt-f1) and use that?
[13:28] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: that's another problem :D I work on a
[13:28] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: erm, not to my knowledge it doesn't... ctrl-alt-del just displays the task manager, it doesn't halt anything, and I think the same goes for ctrl-alt-esc in ubuntu
[13:29] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: can you ssh in?
[13:29] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: how do you mean?
[13:29] <serdar> was I correct or wrong?
[13:29] <serdar> it don't do a thing here
[13:29] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: if you have installed the openssh server you could possibly use an ssh client to log in remotely from another computer, and see if you can kill the process from there
[13:31] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: "Oh. Blimey": isn't that from black adder? :D
[13:32] <kennyyu> where can i find arm-linux-toolchains.tgz for ubuntu?
[13:32] <Vinceman> obhk____ life is not funny
[13:32] <Decepticon> how do i give priority to a process over another process
[13:32] <Vinceman> Oh Blimey is from the movie "titanic"
[13:32] <jrib> Decepticon: man nice
[13:32] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: heh, it's an expression I use a lot as an englishman ;)
[13:33] <serdar> it's a tragedy it's end with the dead
[13:33] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: thx for the help
[13:33] <serdar> with death
[13:33] <Decepticon> what is a sane range for niceness for a nonessential process
[13:33] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: no problem
[13:33] <Decepticon> 0 to 19 ?
[13:34] <serdar> maybe I ask again, does the pulseaudio skript work with someone?
[13:34] <Decepticon> no negative niceness numbers are good for nonessential processes, like a web browser?
[13:35] <nooga> hi
[13:35] <Decepticon> how do i use nice when a process is already started?
[13:35] <jrib> Decepticon: man renice
[13:36] <nooga> Has somebody tried using Open AT compliant GSM modem connected via parallel port under ubuntu? I need help in making my Wavecom work.
[13:36] <The-Compiler> ehem, linux-generic and figlet are unfree?
[13:37] <lodder> can gnome, kde and xfce be installed one machine?
[13:37] <Decepticon> how do i see current niceness of a running process without modification
[13:38] <shavin> does one need to check MD5 sums of an ubuntu image downloaded through torrent?
[13:38] <onetinsoldier> lodder: yes, definitely
[13:38] <jrib> Decepticon: man ps (I know that one is vague, but I don't remember the options).  You can use top or htop too.  System -> Adiministration -> system monitor might work as well
[13:38] <shavin> I could not locate where MD5 sums are on ubuntu site. Could you u send me the link ?
[13:38] <Decepticon> jrib top shows TOO many processes, and its hard to find my process im looking for the niceness of
[13:39] <ngirard> Hi again. How to list the dependancies of a given paquet p ?
[13:39] <The-Compiler> shavin: take the torrent link, and replace the filename (e.g. Ubuntu-foo.torrent) with MD5SUMS
[13:40] <jrib> Decepticon: you can search in htop
[13:40] <lodder> onetinsoldier: is it aptitude install kde and aptitude install xfce
[13:40] <zChris> ´My computer rebooted itself for some reason, im trying to figure out what issued the reboot in the logs but i dont know which log to look in. Any advice?
[13:40] <onetinsoldier> ngirard: apt-cache depends <package>
[13:40] <ngirard> onetinsoldier: Hi, thanks for your answer !
[13:41] <onetinsoldier> lodder: i'd have to look
[13:41] <lodder> k
[13:41] <imc_> Hi, after updating to Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS> yesterday FF opens to full screen by default and I can't seem to change the behavior - anyone else have this problem? I'm on 8.10
[13:41] <jrib> lodder: you probably want kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[13:41] <onetinsoldier> ngirard: you're welcome :)
[13:42] <h2os> any suggestions on a lighter weight desktop then xfce?
[13:42] <Decepticon> how do i change the disgusting colors in htop, F2 doesnt appear to work, running htop under screen...
[13:42] <cinnamon> don't you find it a bit frightening, that ubuntu bugs on launchpad time out automatically when not fixed?
[13:43] <shavin> The-Compiler: do you mean like this:     http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent with http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/md5sums?
[13:43] <edgy> Hi, any one managed to transfer from mobile to pc using bluetooth? I can't!
[13:43] <The-Compiler> shavin: yup, _should_ work
[13:43] <onetinsoldier> lodder: looks like it would be, aptitude install kde and aptitude install xfce4
[13:43] <shavin> The-Compiler: nope it doesnt :-(
[13:43] <The-Compiler> shavin: I said MD5SUMS but not md5sums :P
[13:44] <shavin> caps?
[13:44] <shavin> in a url?
[13:44] <shavin> fuck, it worked :-)
[13:44] <shavin> thanks
[13:44] <serdar> is the pulseaudio init script broken?
[13:45] <jrib> serdar: no?
[13:45] <ikonia> shavin: control your language please
[13:45] <shavin> ikonia: sorry
[13:45] <ikonia> shavin: no problem
[13:46] <shavin> i got excited a bit
[13:46] <shavin> he he
[13:47] <serdar> jrib: hmm that's strange. that script don't do a thing
[13:47] <The-Compiler> shavin: yes, on linux-servers caps does usually matter
[13:47] <jrib> serdar: I said "no?" as in "something probably doesn't work for you, so why not tell us exactly what is not working for you?"
[13:48] <shavin> The-Compiler: thats new knowledge for me. Thank you.
[13:49] <serdar> jrib: init scripts like alsa-utils do start and stop something here and tells me that he do that, but pulseaudio is quite and do nothing.
[13:49] <recon69> hi all, I want to use a higher version(2.1) of cg-nvidia-toolkit than the 2.0.001 in the hardy repos, on nvidia's site the closed install package is a redhat rpm . can i install that?
[13:50] <h2os> recon69, maybe
[13:50] <h2os> recon69, try alien to convert it
[13:50] <h2os> recon69, to a deb
[13:51] <remoteCTR1> with what command do i install gnome, is that gnome-desktop-environment? cos that tells me that i am missing prerequisites...?
[13:51] <jrib> remoteCTR1: ubuntu-desktop
[13:51] <remoteCTR1> jrib: aaaaah! k, thanks!
[13:51] <delaneys> ive got three packages in my update manager that wont update
[13:52] <Decepticon> how do i prevent htop from scrolling all the way to the top
[13:52] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: and they are?
[13:52] <gansc> delaneys: ?
[13:52] <serdar> does pulseaudio work for someone else than me?
[13:53] <serdar> I mean the script
[13:53] <delaneys> kde4libs-bin, kdelibs5 and kdelibs5-dev
[13:53] <serdar> err does it not work I mean
[13:53] <Decepticon> i really like htop... is there some cli app for measuring/monitoring the network? like up/down transfer speed
[13:53] <jrib> serdar: pastebin what you are talking about
[13:54] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: ok, have you tried installing(updating) them on the command line?
[13:54] <delaneys> onetinsoldier, yeah
[13:54] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: what response/message do you get back?
[13:55] <serdar> http://pastebin.com/m4e4f283b I mean this
[13:55] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: each package has dependencies that arent met
[13:55] <jrib> serdar: see if it happens after a fresh reboot
[13:55] <Eaglebird> I had a quick question: Has anyone had any trouble with 8.10 Server's GRUB not honoring the default set by "grub-set-default" or "savedefault --default=#"
[13:55] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: ok, roger. one at a time...  what happens with kde4libs-bin?
[13:55] <Decepticon> how do i run something every 6 hours in crontab... is it 0 */6 * * *
[13:55] <serdar> jrib: you mean in messages?
[13:56] <jrib> serdar: I mean reboot, try again what you pastebinned, see if it matches
[13:56] <jrib> Decepticon: no
[13:56] <jrib> Decepticon: hint: the first field is minutes
[13:56] <serdar> jrib: sound came back after every reboot
[13:57] <jrib> serdar: ok, but you were asking about the init script right?
[13:57] <Decepticon> why wouldnt i want to run at every 6 hours to the dot?
[13:57] <delaneys> onetinsoldier:ok now its jus saying they've been kept back
[13:57] <Decepticon> thats what that does, with minutes at 0
[13:57] <Decepticon> doesnt it?
[13:57] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: ok, that can be normal
[13:57] <jrib> Decepticon: no, it runs it every 6 minutes
[13:58] <Decepticon> the 6 is in the second field
[13:58] <Decepticon> 0 is the first field
[13:58] <orgthingy> hi
[13:58] <gansc> hi
[13:58] <Eaglebird> hello chatter
[13:58] <Decepticon> 0 */6 * * *
[13:58] <delaneys> onetinsoldier:but because of this i will have to compile amarok 2 from source as it doesnt have the dependencies as these are not installed
[13:58] <serdar> jrib: yes, because I think it's strange, that I don't get the needed result as described in the script.
[13:58] <jrib> Decepticon: ah, you're right.  The 0 was at the end of the screen here
[13:58] <orgthingy> /home/user-name/Music is owned by me, and so are ~/Music/Frostwire and ~/Music/Music
[13:58] <orgthingy> the problem is
[13:58] <jrib> serdar: so did you do what I asked?
[13:58] <orgthingy> everything in ~/Music/Frostwire and ~/Music/Music is owned by root
[13:58] <jrib> !enter | orgthingy
[13:59] <orgthingy> even though the files themselves re owned by me
[13:59] <orgthingy> jrib : i really know, i really do
[13:59] <Leon_> Is there any busy channel on freenode with off-topic chat and random advice for life?
[13:59] <jrib> orgthingy: huh?
[13:59] <Decepticon> jrib ah ok, but 0 */6 * * * is correct then for every 6 hours?
[13:59] <Leon_> I need one
[13:59] <jrib> Decepticon: yes
[13:59] <Decepticon> thanks
[13:59] <orgthingy> jrib : that I shouldn't use enter ;)
[13:59] <jrib> orgthingy: then don't :)
[13:59] <serdar> jrib: you mean rebooting system? o.k. than I do it
[13:59] <recon69> serdar: pulse audio does have some problems in ubuntu, every so often it stops working with a message that the audio device is busy. also in some app you get regular pauses in audio.
[14:00] <jrib> serdar: rebooting system and seeing if the script provides output for you then
[14:00] <Eaglebird> orgthingy: chown them to yourself?
[14:00] <orgthingy> Eaglebird : chown -u orgthingy ?
[14:00] <serdar> hmm k
[14:00] <serdar> cu later
[14:00] <orgthingy> I never changed permissions :P only thisi time i was playing and now it's a mess XD
[14:00] <Eaglebird> Dunno. I don't actually use linux all that much XD
[14:01] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: you might not be able to compile the source either, due to dependencies. amarok2 is very new, so the libraries it depends on are not yet in the repositories. if you give it a week or two they probably will be though
[14:01] <aatish> hi room. its been a long time. i got a small problem. i noticed that when i play any types of video on ubuntu with any player with nvidia proprietary driver installed i see some random flickering on the video. i get no such flickering wen i dont install the driver. can someone help find a solution for that. plz. thanks
[14:02] <orgthingy> I think I figured out, i love man pages, Eaglebird, thank you for giving me a clue
[14:02] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: problem is on my other install on my laptop, amarok2 downloaded with not a problem
[14:02] <Eaglebird> Ok well if everyone missed it earlier, my own problem is that I'm using GRUB to dualboot windows and ubuntu server edition; I can boot into either system fine. Ubuntu is the default. I want to be able to use grub-set-default or something to set windows as the default, and I have in my menu.lst, the entry for win to execute a savedefault to revert back to ubuntu, so booting into win is a one time thing.
[14:02] <aatish> i want to enable compiz also thats y. need to install driver
[14:02] <jim_p> aatish, what video output do you select on each player?
[14:03] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: oh? i see, hmmm
[14:03] <aatish> x11
[14:03] <Eaglebird> however, when I grub-set-default to the windows entry, it still defaults to ubuntu
[14:03] <delaneys> onetinsoldier:actually, i have an idea
[14:03] <ikonia> Eaglebird: just menually update your /boot/grub/menu.lst to have Default point to the windows partition rather than ubuntu
[14:03] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: ok, well let me explain wht i think might be going on then
[14:03] <onetinsoldier> what*
[14:04] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: go ahead please
[14:04] <Eaglebird> ikonia: No, because then I have to have a keyboard attached if I want to get back into ubuntu :P
[14:04] <aatish> jim_p: i use x11 as video output.
[14:04] <Eaglebird> And it's more work than running a command
[14:04] <ikonia> Eaglebird: how are you running a command without a keyboard
[14:04] <Eaglebird> SSH
[14:04] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: you probably have something on this system that depends on the older version of the libs, that's why they are being held back
[14:04] <ikonia> Eaglebird: errrr then yhou can edit the file over ssh
[14:04] <jim_p> Eaglebird, then u must change the "default 0" parameter in menu.lst
[14:04] <Eaglebird> yeah but guys
[14:04] <Eaglebird> windows doesn't like linux partitions
[14:04] <jim_p> aatish, try some other one like xv or gl/gl2
[14:05] <Eaglebird> so how do I change it back?
[14:05] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: you might get a clue by doing   aptitude whynot <newer lib version>
[14:05] <ikonia> Eaglebird: oh I see you want to change the grub default whie in windows
[14:05] <Eaglebird> no no
[14:05] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: jus a general question, im still runnin hardy on this, my other is interprid, is that a possible problem no?
[14:05] <Eaglebird> I want windows to default once.
[14:05] <Eaglebird> So basically, boot into ubuntu, set windows default, restart, get windows
[14:05] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: or opening up the aptitude interface and looking at them in there
[14:05] <ikonia> Eaglebird: grub is not dynamic like that
[14:06] <Eaglebird> restart again, get ubuntu. restart again, get ubuntu. restart, ubuntu. set default windows, restart, windows.
[14:06] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: yes.. that would probably have a lot to do with it
[14:06] <aatish> jim_p: i have tried but  no results
[14:06] <Eaglebird> Basically when I'm in ubuntu, I set windows as default. The windows entry has "savedefault 0" to revert back to ubuntu
[14:07] <Eaglebird> so when it loads windows, it also reverts the default back to ubuntu
[14:07] <ikonia> Eaglebird I don't know/think that will work
[14:07] <CaneToad> how do I find out what to apt-get that contains libjpeg-devel ?
[14:07] <Eaglebird> It would be simple, really, if the /boot/grub/default file worked
[14:07] <jim_p> aatish, do you have 3d acceleration now? proper installation of drivers would enable that
[14:07] <ikonia> Eaglebird: it doesn't so that can't be helped
[14:07] <Eaglebird> so why doesn't it work
[14:08] <jim_p> CaneToad, libjpeg62-dev
[14:08] <ikonia> Eaglebird speak to the grub developers, grub has not been developed for ages
[14:08] <catmando> hey all
[14:08] <CaneToad> jim_p thanks that's good...but how did you determine that?
[14:08] <catmando> i've got a _very_ weird problem
[14:08] <aatish> jim_p; i havent install the driver Bkoz of the flickering. but it does support 3d acc
[14:08] <Leon_> Does anybody know a good off-topic random-advice channel on freenode?
[14:08] <catmando> i've just resized an logical volume using lvresize
[14:08] <jim_p> CaneToad, apt-cache search libjpeg :P
[14:08] <ikonia> Leon_ not ehre
[14:08] <ikonia> not here4
[14:09] <delaneys> onetinsoldiers: in aptitude it is sayin that they are from an untrusted source bu as far as i can see its from kubuntu
[14:09] <catmando> but it's still showing up as having no space
[14:09] <CaneToad> jim_p thanks I'm new to apt
[14:09] <catmando> both in nautilus and gparted
[14:09] <ikonia> ughh, "Leon, not here," look on the freenode channel list
[14:09] <catmando> any ideas?
[14:09] <jim_p> aatish, ubuntu 8.10? and what gpu?
[14:09] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: in aptitude it is sayin that they are from an untrusted source bu as far as i can see its from kubuntu
[14:09] <Leon_> ikonia: That's why I'm asking where. You know any busy channels anywhere?
[14:09] <Eaglebird> ikonia: Would it be possible to point the "default number" line of menu.lst to /boot/grub/default, somehow?
[14:09] <ikonia> Leon_ #ubuntu is not an irc directory - look on the freenode channel list
[14:09] <ikonia> Eaglebird no
[14:09] <ikonia> Eaglebird: grub is not dynamic like you want
[14:10] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: i'm not sure exactly what that's about...
[14:10] <aatish> jim_p: am using 8.10 n geforce 7300. i got the same prob with 8.04
[14:10] <Leon_> ikonia: There are about 5000 channels there, not a lot of them seem to be active and off-topic, so I thought I would just ask here because people here might n´know the freenode network better than I do
[14:10] <skylarS> does anyonw know why screem closes all of the time?
[14:11] <skylarS> there must be a bug or something
[14:11] <ikonia> Leon_ read the cahnnel list and find one and try it
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Leon_ Please read and understand what Ikonia has said
[14:11] <randa> ryan8403_work: hi are you ryan Lorchtie
[14:12] <jim_p> aatish, did you upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 or clean install?
[14:12] <sidd> hi, am facing a lot of problems with the 8.10 networking. first, how do i get the network icon back on the panel?
[14:12] <Leon_> Ok nevermind, I was just thinking that somebody here might know a channel. I have already looked through the list, but there are far too many to scan every single one and check if they are active and off-topic
[14:13] <tangkevin2006> hi ,can anyone do me a favor?:)
[14:13] <aatish> jim_p: i did a clean install
[14:14] <jim_p> tangkevin2006, everyone do the same favor?!
[14:14] <ranok> tangkevin2006: ask away
[14:14] <macsim_> hi, in nvidia-setting why did it display CRT screen if I use an philipps 17'' 170S screen ?
[14:14] <ranok> Leon_: check out netsplit
[14:14] <jim_p> aatish, then i dont know what to say.
[14:15] <veltsu> Please somebody find it in your heart to help me with my audio problems: Acer 5100 with 8.10 and no sound after trying the alsa script. I'm on kernel ..27-8 and curiously when trying with ..27-9, sound works but wireless network card doesn't
[14:15] <jim_p> aatish, i would say "make a proper xorg.conf file" but its not an answer since you are on 8.10
[14:15] <ranok> Leon_: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[14:15] <lasivian> I rebooted and it says the administration directory is still locked when I run apt-get, ideas?
[14:15] <sidd> how do i edit network settings in ubuntu 8.10? which files?
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> veltsu the script from alsa should not have changed anything, or is this some other script
[14:16] <Leon_> ranok: Thanks, I'll see if I can find a channel to suit my needs :)
[14:16] <jim_p> veltsu, what wireless card are you on? your wireless may not work because of network manager
[14:16] <ranok> Leon_: no problem
[14:16] <ranok> Leon_: try #defocus
[14:16] <sidd> and how do i permanently disable network manager and do the network configuration myself?
[14:17] <veltsu> Jack_Sparrow I ran the script earlier on 27-9 because I was using that by a mistake. Seems there it worked properly
[14:17] <veltsu> jim_p my wireless is Atheros 2413, the infamous one
[14:17] <mikevankuik> anyone knows anything about log file rotation?
[14:17] <mikevankuik> I think I might have a issue with that but not sure
[14:17] <Saga_> I'm going to install Ubuntu on laptop and because of its natural in mobility, I'm going to use alternative cd to use encrypted LVM -- However, I wanted to know what's the really benefits in Ubuntu 8.10 and Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS -- Which would benefit me the most?
[14:17] <jim_p> sidd, sudo apt-get autoremove network-manager && sudo apt-get install gnome-network-admin
[14:17] <aatish> jim_p: thanks anyway. btw i also got the same prob wen i installed the beta driver.
[14:17] <ngirard> Hi all, I have a plain vanilla 105-key french keyboard. After migrating from 8.04 to 8.10, the "down" key generates a 116 (Multi_key) event. How can I fix this ?
[14:18] <tangkevin2006> hi,sidd,u can find in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> veltsu Just for my own info...  The script.. alsa-info.sh             caused an issue?
[14:18] <sidd> tangkevin2006: done that n number of times. everytime i reboot, it loses the config. the values are still there in the file tho.
[14:19] <veltsu> Jack_Sparrow no. The sounds were not working before either.
[14:19] <sidd> tangkevin2006: i don't think that works. i have two computers with the same problem.
[14:19] <federico> !list
[14:19] <zzxxzz> Does anyone know if there is a config file for the Trash applet?
[14:20] <jrib> zzxxzz: not that I know of.  What do you want to configure?
[14:20] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: what's the factoid for when apt is locked(lockfile problem)? do you know? lasivian needs help
[14:20] <ranok> my trash applet has stopped becoming empty, even if I empty it
[14:20] <Saga_> !lts > Saga_
[14:21] <jrib> ranok: anything in ~/.local/share/Trash/?
[14:21] <Saga_> !LTS
[14:21] <freeqstyler> Hello
[14:21] <bazhang> !aptfix
[14:21] <Saga_> !lLTS benefits
[14:21] <onetinsoldier> bazhang: ahh, thanks
[14:21] <jrib> Saga_: ask a question
[14:21] <zzxxzz> jrib: My new install of 8.10 does not change the icon when there is trash and it saays there is none when I point to it, but it does allow me to delete the trash.
[14:21] <ranok> jrib: two empty dirs: info and files
[14:21] <Saga_> jrib: I did :)  --  I'm going to install Ubuntu on laptop and because of its natural in mobility, I'm going to use alternative cd to use encrypted LVM -- However, I wanted to know what's the really benefits in Ubuntu 8.10 and Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS -- Which would benefit me the most?
[14:22] <federico> list
[14:22] <federico> lst
[14:22] <ikonia> federico: what ?
[14:22] <jrib> Saga_: 8.04 is supported for 3 years, 8.10 for 18 months.  However, 8.10 is newer
[14:22] <Saga_> jrib: I'm aware of that -- but I need more info on it -- Why should I use LTS?
[14:23] <jrib> zzxxzz: different icon theme maybe?
[14:23] <jrib> Saga_: if you don't want to upgrade as often as you would with non-LTS
[14:23] <jrib> Saga_: that's it
[14:23] <mikevankuik> anyone having any experiance with log rotation ?
[14:23] <Feeernando> hi
[14:23] <jrib> mikevankuik: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Saga_ usually for servers (LTS) since updrades and down time are more of an issue than a home PC.  If in doubt you can dual or tripple boot .04 and .10
[14:24] <tangkevin2006> sidd,well ,I have no idea,but I edit it on one of my desktop,and it can work,i using the static ip
[14:24] <Decepticon> what cli app is there to see progress of a cp operation
[14:24] <Feeernando> hello
[14:24] <jrib> Decepticon: rsync?
[14:24] <onetinsoldier> lasivian: did you see the above about aptfix?
[14:24] <acedip> how can i monitor a program in gdb
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi > Feeernando
[14:24] <Saga_> Jack_Sparrow: But Ubuntu 8.10 -- You somtimes will experience bugs?
[14:24] <jrib> ranok: what version of ubuntu?
[14:25] <ranok> jrib: 8.10
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Saga_ You can experience bugs in any release, more so with marginally supported hardware
[14:25] <mikevankuik> jrib: I'm not sure what the problem is but it seems the log rotating system doesn't rotate every file and the logs aren't being written either
[14:25] <Sparckix> Hi.. May you help me please? I have deleted an .ods file and I'm wondering if I could recuperate it
[14:25] <jrib> ranok: does the trash icon in nautilus also stay full if you do file -> empty trash?
[14:25] <acedip> how can i monitor transmission in gdb
[14:25] <acedip> how can i monitor transmission in gdb
[14:25] <jrib> mikevankuik: I meant to ask the channel
[14:25] <Sparckix> recover it*
[14:25] <jrib> !debug > acedip
[14:26] <ranok> jrib: yes
[14:26] <jrib> !recover | Sparckix
[14:26] <recon69> ok, got a gziped copy of cg-2.1, the archive root is /. and contains /usr , /use/bin , /usr/include /usr/lib /usr/local /usr/share, I take i should uninstall the cg-2.0 and unzip the archive into the appropriate /usr dir?
[14:26] <Saga_> Thanks Jack_Sparrow and jrib.
[14:26] <freeqstyler> I have a problem with booting. I have two disk - first 320GB with Ubuntu 8.10 installed (SATA converted to IDE- Primary) and second 40GB with WinXP (Secondary IDE). When i try to boot from first drive I see "GRUB loading stage 1.5 error 25" instead od GRUB menu. I tried to boot from Super Grub Disk, but then I saw "Grub loading stage2 read error" after choosing Ubuntu partition. Sorry for my english :P
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:26] <jrib> ranok: and nothing shows up when you click on it in nautilus?   Even if you press ctrl-h?
[14:26] <Decepticon> jrib how do i see hte progress bar in rsync
[14:26] <ranok> yes
[14:26] <ranok> nothing
[14:26] <jrib> Decepticon: I don't remember offhand
[14:26] <Decepticon> i tried rsync -v
[14:26] <CarlFK> how do I downgrade xorg to a previous version?
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> CarlFK You dont
[14:27] <mikevankuik> jrib: ? sorry should I tell the bot my question or so? this message is going to be read in the channel by all right?
[14:27] <jrib> Decepticon: man rsync <enter> /progress <enter>
[14:27] <Saga_> mikevankuik: Use > command.... Eg
[14:27] <Saga_> !lts > mikevankuik
[14:27] <jrib> mikevankuik: yes, I meant ask the question without highlighting me so people know you aren't being helped yet
[14:27] <jrib> CarlFK: why?
[14:28] <zzxxzz> jrib: I've tried changing to each of the different themes and they all display  only an empty icon.
[14:28] <ranok> jrib: nothing shows up
[14:28] <CarlFK> jrib: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18160#c11  bug in kernel hosed my multi-head
[14:28] <Decepticon> jrib its --progress ... or you can use -P which is really --progress and --partial (which says keep partially transfered files)
[14:28] <jrib> zzxxzz: icon themes specifically?
[14:28] <mikevankuik> jrib: ok
[14:29] <Saga_> I'm thinking about encryption lvm -- however, will I be able to create a new partition from encryption lvm free space and mount it as a hard drive?
[14:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:29] <onetinsoldier> hi
[14:29] <gansc> hi silv3r_m00n
[14:29] <silv3r_m00n> how can I edit the looks and feel of gnome
[14:29] <freeqstyler> uhm, no one can help me?
[14:29] <silv3r_m00n> say to make a theme of my own
[14:29] <Saga_> silv3r_m00n: Making a theme probably isn't easy -- Use theme packages from Gnome-look.org
[14:30] <gansc> freeqstyler whats you question ?
[14:30] <recon69>  ok, got a gziped copy of cg-2.1, the archive root is /. and contains /usr , /use/bin , /usr/include /usr/lib /usr/local /usr/share, I take i should uninstall the cg-2.0 and unzip the archive into the appropriate /usr dir?
[14:30] <freeqstyler> gansc: I have a problem with booting. I have two disk - first 320GB with Ubuntu 8.10 installed (SATA converted to IDE- Primary) and second 40GB with WinXP (Secondary IDE). When i try to boot from first drive I see "GRUB loading stage 1.5 error 25" instead od GRUB menu. I tried to boot from Super Grub Disk, but then I saw "Grub loading stage2 read error" after choosing Ubuntu partition. Sorry for my english :P
[14:30] <Decepticon> 930kB/s transfer from USB device to 7200rpm hdd, means its using USB 1?
[14:30] <silv3r_m00n> Saga_: that's fine... but suppose I want to tweak some parts like change height of menu
[14:30] <Baber> hi
[14:30] <silv3r_m00n> will that too be difficult
[14:30] <Saga_> silv3r_m00n: You can -- There's customize option.  It's in appearances.  I do that -- I have this look --  I have this different set of icons -- etc.
[14:31] <veltsu> I'd like to hear some stories about how was your transition to Linux like. Was it a struggle to get even the smallest thing to work? did everything require you to do a week of research and testing before you got it to work?
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> Saga_: the thing that I want to modify isn't there in appearances
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> that why
[14:31] <recon69> hmm, hope i dont endup reinstalling OS after this :)
[14:31] <jrib> CarlFK: there isn't an easy way for you to downgrade xorg.  In any case, that bug report says there are bugs in 3 different software.  There is a patch for some part of the issue.  Did you try applying it?  Otherwise the easiest thing for you to do is probably to use hardy or something
[14:31] <eMaX> hi all
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> freeqstyler Was windoes installed on that drive in it
[14:31] <Saga_> silv3r_m00n: Changing heights of the menu, or do you mean panel?
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> yup
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> s current position as slave?
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> ppanel
[14:31] <eMaX> anyone here knows "db3"? I get cannot open Packages index using db3
[14:31] <Baber> i want connect my laptop with an accesspoint wireless modem in ubuntu it can see accesspoint modem but can not connect who can help me?
[14:31] <gansc> freeqstyler: That beats me! sorry. English is ok ;)
[14:31] <jim_p> rww, are you there? virtualbox just anounced 64 bit guest support on 32bit hosts! vbox 2.1.0 is out!
[14:32] <Saga_> Right-click on the panel -- Properties.  Change it to a new size.  silv3r_m00n
[14:32] <acedip> i want to monitor transmission in gdb, transmission is been hanging lately
[14:32] <CarlFK> jrib: the patch just reports the error instead of crashing.
[14:32] <eMaX> jim_p what?
[14:32] <silv3r_m00n> Saga_: noh... the items in the menu I want to change their height
[14:32] <eMaX> jim_p how would that work
[14:32] <veltsu> Baber what's your wireless card?
[14:32] <n8tuser> Baber-> try  sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:32] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[14:33] <CarlFK> jrib: thanks for looking.
[14:33] <jim_p> eMaX, dunno too. rmm confirmed it works but its very slow
[14:33] <eMaX> strange
[14:33] <jrib> CarlFK: look at comment 17
[14:33] <Decepticon> 930kB/s transfer from USB device to 7200rpm hdd, means its using USB 1?
[14:33] <CarlFK> jrib: hmm, maby I should try it...
[14:33] <jrib> CarlFK: it seems to partially fix the problem.  Whether it's enough for you I have no idea
[14:34] <acedip> the command "gdb transmission" doesnt work, but i guess that is the way to start a program in gdb,right ??
[14:34] <zzxxzz> jrib: Using System  - Preference - Appearance: It doesn't mention icon themes specifically. Is there another place to make them changes? Ubuntu 8.10 fresh install.
[14:34] <n8tuser> acedip-> should be,  assuming transmission is an elf executable it can understand
[14:35] <jrib> zzxxzz: "customize..."
[14:35] <nooga> How to list serial ports?
[14:35] <jrib> ranok: don't know then
[14:35] <Feeer> hola
[14:35] <ranok> jrib: ok, thanks anyways
[14:36] <acedip> n8tuser: transmission is an self executable
[14:36] <liz_> hello,i need help
[14:36] <jrib> ranok: you can try 'gksudo nautilus' and then file -> empty trash, but I don't think it will work
[14:36] <n8tuser> acedip-> okay, an elf, so what happens when you issue the command?
[14:37] <Baber> n8tuser: i typed sudo dhclient wlan0 and now it show some output what do i have to do now?
[14:37] <shavin> whats the better way of installing ubuntu on a usb from a live CD? from system>administration>create usb startup disk OR from http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/ ?and whats the difference here??
[14:37] <n8tuser> Baber-> you have to post in pastebin the output, i can not see it from here..
[14:37] <acedip> n8tuser: the gdb starts but not with transmission in it..transmission is not there
[14:37] <paul__> I installed ubuntu with vmware as virtual machine in windows 2k3 , and I cant figure out it's networking, I cant ssh to it
[14:38] <onetinsoldier> shavin: i used a utility called  unetbootin
[14:38] <n8tuser> acedip-> what do you mean not there?
[14:38] <zzxxzz> jrib: I had to go back and look, and yes we did cycle through each choice on the icon tab under customize and the main theme also and only saw a different "empty" icon when there was files deleted in the trash.
[14:38] <shavin> is there a reason not to use system>adminustration> create usb startup disk ?
[14:38] <acedip> n8tuser: first of all, transmission should be running graphically too, right?
[14:39] <jrib> zzxxzz: what ubuntu version?
[14:39] <Baber> n8tuser: it say no dhcpoffers recieved
[14:39] <Riverhed> Anyone here have any experience with setting up wacom/tablet PCs with Ubuntu?
[14:39] <n8tuser2> Baber-> are you using an encrypted AP ?
[14:39] <Pulpie> what is ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 X -version
[14:39] <acedip> n8tuser2: i simply mean that transmission is not running
[14:40] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd..  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[14:40] <zzxxzz> jrib: 8.10 freshly installed on a new notebook using the alternate CD which was also used on a friends computer which does not have the problem.
[14:40] <Baber> n8tuser:8.04.1
[14:40] <jrib> ranok, zzxxzz: pastebin: grep -i trash ~/.nautilus/metafiles/*  (though http://ywwg.com/wordpress/?p=75 claims it is old)
[14:40] <n8tuser2> acedip-> you have to step by step or put break while in gdb, and run.. did you do that?
[14:41] <n8tuser2> Baber-> wpa-psk? wep?
[14:41] <ranok> jrib: no output
[14:41] <acedip> n8tuser2: u mean 1.$gdb then 2.run transmission
[14:41] <Pulpie> anyone running 8.04 type X -version and pastebin me the output please
[14:41] <Pulpie> as well as 8.10
[14:41] <n8tuser2> acedip-> nope, in gdb prompt you type run, or step
[14:41] <Baber> n8tuser2: i think use wep
[14:42] <jrib> Pulpie: packages.ubuntu.com check xserver-xorg
[14:42] <n8tuser2> Baber-> get rid of it for now, try using no encryption
[14:42] <n8tuser2> then later you can enable it once you know it works
[14:42] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd..  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[14:43] <ronny> hi
[14:43] <Baber> n8tuser2: is your means that i have to decrypt it first?
[14:43] <luisbg> luis_, ping
[14:43] <n8tuser2> Baber nope, disable wep in the AP
[14:43] <ronny> anyone aware of a mp3 stream player thats able to record the streams on disk
[14:44] <luisbg> luisbg_, ping
[14:44] <mikealeonetti> is there a way to get the Ubuntu version through the shell?
[14:44] <n8tuser2> mikealeonetti-> uname -r
[14:44] <zenit> mikealeonetti: lsb_releas -a
[14:44] <Michael88> hi ppl
[14:44] <Baber> n8tuser2: excuse me your means from ap is modem application?
[14:44] <zenit> lsb_release -a
[14:44] <jim_p> mikealeonetti, uname -r or lsb_release -a
[14:45] <Michael88> i need some help with a USB HDD....how can i "force mount it" i'm on Ubuntu live
[14:45] <Michael88> pls help
[14:45] <sidd> how do i enable and disable services in ubuntu?
[14:45] <jim_p> Michael88, is it on ntfs?
[14:45] <Pulpie> jrib: /wc
[14:45] <n8tuser2> Baber  you have to read up on wireless, you have to understand the basic lingo used.. please google for wifi tutorial
[14:45] <jim_p> sidd, with sysvconf          google it
[14:45] <Michael88> yes
[14:45] <n8tuser2> !wireless | Baber
[14:45] <allsystemsarego> sidd, bum - Boot-up manager
[14:46] <acedip> n8tuser2: this is what is happening.  (gdb) run transmission Starting program:  transmission No executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command.
[14:46] <Michael88> jim_p: yes it is
[14:46] <onetinsoldier> sidd: System --> Administration --> Services
[14:46] <zzxxzz> jrib: grep -i trash ~/.nautilus/metafiles/*   returns nothing.
[14:46] <jim_p> Michael88, i guess it was not properly "safely removed" on some windows machine, so you have to use forced mount
[14:46] <onetinsoldier> sidd: see also   man update-rc.d
[14:46] <jrib> zzxxzz: k, don't know then
[14:46] <jim_p> Michael88, do you know the letter of it, like sda, sdb etc?
[14:47] <n8tuser2> acedip   you have to    gdb  transmission   then type run or step at gdb prompt
[14:47] <Michael88> jim_p: no
[14:47] <jrib> ranok, zzxxzz: you can both try to see if it happens with a fresh new user to see if it's a configuration issue
[14:47] <zzxxzz> jrib: Thanks, this one really  has me stumped.
[14:47] <zzxxzz> jrib: I'll give that  a try. And thanks.
[14:47] <ranok> jrib: thanks for the help
[14:47] <shavin> how do i find out the drive letter of my usb drive?
[14:48] <jrib> shavin: ubuntu doesn't use drive letters
[14:48] <onetinsoldier> shavin: linux doesn't use drive letter, i uses device nodes and mount point
[14:48] <acedip> n8tuser2: kindly check the output http://pastebin.com/m67d3c1e1
[14:48] <jim_p> Michael88, can i pm you because i am in a hurry?
[14:48] <onetinsoldier> shavin: try typing...   mount
[14:48] <tom198> czech?????????
[14:49] <Michael88> jim_p: oky
[14:49] <zzxxzz> shavin: When I format my drives and give them unique label names, the mount displaying the label.
[14:49] <Pici> !cz | tom198
[14:49] <shavin> lemme try the mount command
[14:50] <n8tuser2> acedip so it means the transmission program has been stripped off of its debuggers, so you need to recompile it and enable debuggin
[14:50] <Eaglebird> ikonia:It's dynamic enough. I've got it working for me, and would've replied sooner, but wanted to verify it first, and it takes about 10 minutes for the machine in question to boot because it has 8 gigs of ECC memory to check ;P
[14:50] <jrib> acedip: or if you read the link I gave you, you would know where the packages with debug symbols are
[14:50] <acedip> n8tuser2: and how shall i do that :(
[14:51] <shavin> I cant understand the output of the mount command. is there a way to see only usb drives?
[14:51] <n8tuser2> acedip-> you have to learn c programming and gdb, so you can learn how to compile and debug
[14:51] <n8tuser2> shavin-> try   ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid
[14:52] <acedip> n8tuser2: i guess i know c++
[14:52] <heril> c++ isn't c
[14:52] <n8tuser2> acedip-> then you ought to know how to compile with debuggers enabled
[14:53] <n8tuser2> acedip-> man gcc and look for options to enable debugging
[14:53] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd..  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[14:54] <shavin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/87098/ could you please see this and help me find out my pendrive letter?
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> shavin sudo fdisk -l  last letter is L  from term
[14:55] <praet> SOURdiesel: does the cd work if you eject and re-insert it
[14:55] <SOURdiesel> praet: yes
[14:56] <n8tuser2> shavin unplug your pen drive and replug it in, then dmesg| tail  to compare
[14:56] <praet> SOURdiesel: what is the error then?
[14:56] <zzxxzz> shavin: sdb1 looks like it's your pen drive. Does it not mount automatically when you plug it in and produce an icon on the desktop?
[14:56] <SOURdiesel> praet: something about not being able to mount
[14:56] <patrick-1> Hey everyone. im trying to setup my xorg.conf for dual head usage, but it just wont work out right. i have 2 screens one DVI and one VGA and i cannot get them with a high resolution
[14:56] <shavin> okay i found it in partitiion editor its sdb1    Now what the drive letter in this?
[14:57] <praet> the brun log seems fine, report the mounting error
[14:57] <praet> or try the disc in another machine
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> shavin Drive Letters are a windows thing
[14:57] <shavin> Jack_Sparrow: But the script which i am using to install ubuntu on a pendrive from pendrivelinux.com is asking for a drive letter in the terminal
[14:58] <shavin> so what should i tell it sdb1 or a part of it?
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> shavin If you mean to ask if sdb1 is hd1,0
[14:58] <nikhil> hi there
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[14:59] <nikhil> i am on 8.04 currently.  SHould i shift to 8.10. if yes, whether a clean install or update preferred?
[14:59] <Decepticon> is there something like htop for the network, i want to see graphs or history or avg and instantaneous transfer speeds up/down for each interface in a cli environment reliably under screen
[15:00] <nikhil> i am on 8.04 currently.  SHould i shift to 8.10. if yes, whether a clean install or update preferred?
[15:00] <nolfie> nikhil you might have problems on update
[15:00] <n8tuser2> shavin-> which install instruction are you following?
[15:01] <shavin> n8tuser2:http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/10/15/ubuntu-810-persistent-flash-drive-install-from-live-cd/
[15:01] <nikhil> sorry if anybody has responded to my question.  time lag appears to be high
[15:01] <Pici> nikhil: Read the release notes for 8.10 and see if any are applicible to your situation
[15:01] <shavin> i think 'b' from 'sdb1 ' would be the drive letter for me.
[15:01] <Pici> !notes > nikhil
[15:02] <mikealeonetti> is apt-get only used in Ubuntu?
[15:02] <reiARTUR27> OPA
[15:02] <heril> mikealeonetti: no
[15:02] <reiARTUR27> depois de  muito tempo
[15:02] <reiARTUR27> voltando para o IRC
[15:02] <heril> comes from debian
[15:02] <nolfie> mikealeonetti it is used on all debian based distros
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[15:02] <mikealeonetti> aha
[15:02] <n8tuser2> shavin why not http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/11/01/ubuntu-810-install-using-the-built-in-usb-installer/
[15:02] <patrick-1> Any xorg.conf Pro's around?
[15:02] <patrick-1> please PM
[15:02] <onetinsoldier> mikealeonetti: it's used in 'Debian' and Debian-based distros, of which there are a number
[15:02] <hateball> !ask | patrick-1
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> patrick-1 Please keep it in the channel, so others can learn as you get help
[15:03] <n8tuser2> patrick-1-> do not insult the rest, what if they are not pro?
[15:03] <shavin> thats what i wanted to use in the first place. I asked here a while ago. ok good. Do u think i should use that?
[15:03] <n8tuser2> shavin-> you can always try
[15:03] <shavin> :-)
[15:03] <shavin> yes
[15:04] <jpastore> is there a way to convert .toast images to iso with ubuntu?
[15:04] <jpastore> or to burn .toast files?
[15:04] <erUSUL> !iso
[15:04] <jpastore> thanks I'll check that out
[15:05] <nolfie> jpastore just rename
[15:05] <DaveKong> where is skel_dir? I want to be able to modify the default directories made
[15:05] <onetinsoldier> DaveKong: it's in /etc
[15:05] <DaveKong> thanks
[15:05] <jpastore> nolfie, really? I tried that and burned it down but it didn't work out so well for me...let me try to mount the iso and see what happens
[15:06] <onetinsoldier> yep
[15:06] <nolfie> jpastore oh, ok.
[15:07] <jpastore> nolfie, is there something that needs to be done to burn an iso as bootable? I have an iso that I want to install into a vbox
[15:08] <Riverhed> I'm having a little trouble with getting my stylus to work with my tx2500 and linuxwacom. I configured xorg.conf and made a quick fix, so I'm able to use the right-click side button as left-click by remapping the button and I set my mouse preferences so if I hold the button down it does a right-click, so it's usable enough as a stylus. But other users with 8.10 on the tx2500 have reported being able to click by pressing on the screen,
[15:08] <nolfie> jpastore nopes, if the iso was burnt properly, that will do. when burning bootable images, there is a problem that the burning software padds with a few extra bytes that ruins the disc
[15:09] <nolfie> *pads
[15:09] <Riverhed> My hunch is that because I installed the linuxwacom package using the package manager, it might be a little older version than others are using, but I'm pretty new to Linux and don't want to mess something up. Can anyone walk me through patching linuxwacom to the newest version?
[15:09] <cdecarlo> I've installed the aero-vista theme for emerald and my window decorations don't change until run $emerald --replace, any ideas why this is happening?
[15:09] <jpastore> nolfie, ok. I'll see what I can work out thanks!
[15:09] <n8tuser2> jpastore-> not all iso are meant for booting, is the iso you have meant for booting?
[15:09] <jpastore> n8tuser2, so it states =)
[15:09] <n8tuser2> jpastore-> incomplete sentence...states what?
[15:10] <Riverhed> Anyone know anything about linuxwacom?
[15:10] <nolfie> n8tuser2 I think he knows that the iso is bootable
[15:10] <n8tuser2> nolfie-> not all iso are bootable
[15:10] <abhi> s
[15:10] <jpastore> n8tuser2, I was led to believe that the iso was bootable.
[15:10] <nolfie> n8tuser2 i know that
[15:11] <nolfie> jpastore, what do you mean? someone told you that?
[15:11] <n8tuser2> jpastore-> nope, not all the iso are bootable
[15:11] <abhi> can we create group chat in irssi by any name?
[15:11] <n8tuser2> abhi yes
[15:11] <Riverhed> Can anyone help me patch linuxwacom to the newest version?
[15:11] <jpastore> n8tuser2, no I meant that this particular iso is an OS install disk. which leads me to believe it's bootable
[15:12] <Xan3> i have a problem usin wine with prince of persia 2008 (err:rundll32:WinMain Unable to find the entry point L in L Shell32.dll) anyone can help me?
[15:12] <nolfie> jpastore exactly
[15:12] <abhi> ya so if i give any name and tell my friends to use that name,its done?
[15:12] <Riverhed> Xan3: Are you using Steam to play it?
[15:12] <zChris> Xan3: checked winehq?
[15:12] <iluminator101> Is there like ccleaner like program for linux?
[15:12] <nolfie> lol
[15:12] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: don't repeat the question quite so often....
[15:12] <nolfie> sorry
[15:12] <n8tuser2> jpastore okay, i was not clear to me the first time..but yeah if they say for install, then it should be
[15:13] <allsystemsarego> iluminator101, kleansweep
[15:13] <abhi> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:13] <Xan3> zChris http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14808
[15:13] <cdecarlo> I've installed the aero-vista theme for emerald and my window decorations don't change until run $emerald --replace, any ideas why this is happening?
[15:13] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: with that said, are you sure there's a newer version that  what you already have?
[15:13] <abhi> can be used to ccleaner
[15:13] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Well, at least someone's even recognized I said anything, I was beginning to think I was invisible. I'm not intending to be bothersome, but I'm also not getting any response, and if it scrolls off the screen, well...
[15:13] <allsystemsarego> iluminator101, but be careful with it, it requires expert knowledge
[15:13] <abhi> ya so if i give any name and tell my friends to use that name,its done?
[15:13] <kevin_405_1> Can anyone help WIFI with WPA
[15:14] <am4zin> iluminator101, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[15:14] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: That's one of the things I'd like to check, but I'm new to Linux, not entirely sure how.
[15:14] <abhi> can we create group chat in irssi by any name?how to do it?
[15:14] <jpastore> n8tuser2, yea...I'm still have trouble seeing it through vbox but I can mount it ok. I umounted it to try and make it available through vbox and I burned the image down...no love /sigh
[15:14] <n8tuser2> kevin_405-> get it working in the clear first before using wpa
[15:14] <Riverhed> I installed using the package manager in 8.10 and I think there's a more recent beta that provides better support for my tablet.
[15:14] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd..  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[15:14] <kevin_405_1> n8tuser wifi works
[15:14] <Riverhed> Just not entirely sure how to check the version and patch it if so.
[15:15] <kevin_405_1> WPA worked a couple of times and then now it stopped working
[15:15] <abhi> can we create group chat in irssi by any name?how to do it?
[15:15] <jim_p> abhi, you join a channel with a random name that you choose (non existant channel) and tell your friends to join that one too
[15:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: cd /usr/share/doc/linuxwacom and read the README file. see if it list a homepage
[15:15] <jim_p> abhi, the rest is just administration
[15:16] <kevin_405_1> n8tuser are u there
[15:16] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: or the homepage might not be in the readme, itmight be in another doc in there, or it might also be in the manpage if linuxwacom has a manpage
[15:17] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: At the homepage, it's http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
[15:17] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd.  when i eject and check it, it's fine.  the error has something to do with not being able to mount the disc.  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[15:17] <kevin_405_1> can someone help me with wifi using wpa
[15:18] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Newest release is 0.8.2, but I'm not sure my current version, trying to find it now.
[15:18] <iluminator101> abhi:is sudo apt-get autoclean same as sudo apt-get clean
[15:18] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: dpkg -l linuxwacom
[15:18] <jim_p> iluminator101, almost
[15:19] <jim_p> iluminator101, one of the two also cleans partialy downloaded files from cache
[15:19] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: i am having trouble finding a package called 'linuxwacom'
[15:19] <doktoreas> anyone uses tomcat with apache connector?
[15:19] <kevin_405_1> WIFI with WPA HELP PLEASE
[15:19] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, caps
[15:20] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 kevin_405_1
[15:20] <Riverhed> yeah, it's not showing up for me, let me try to find it
[15:20] <jim_p> kevin_405_1, remove network manager and install wicd
[15:21] <patrick-1> hey all, i cannot get my xorg to get a higher solution than 2048x768 on a dual head config
[15:21] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, tell me the full path of a filename that belongs to it, if you can. any filename will do, with the full path
[15:21] <kevin_405_1> jim_p / bazhang i got it work 2 days back.. now all of sudden it stops working... no change in the setup.
[15:22] <jim_p> kevin_405_1, thats why i said its network manager
[15:22] <kevin_405_1> can u provide instructions
[15:23] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, you should check the forums link I gave you
[15:23] <jim_p> kevin_405_1, sure
[15:23] <kevin_405_1> ok i will thx baz
[15:24] <Irishman2020> I lost a few kernel options in my boot loader because I set it to limit it to 1 kernel, but the kernel that is listed has a -rt at the end, its ubuntu 8.04
[15:24] <Riverhed> I think I found it... there's a wacom folder in my home directory... /home/riverhed/wacom/linuxwacom-0.8.0-3
[15:25] <Irishman2020> how do I add the kernels that where ther before?
[15:25] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ahh, well there's your version number apparently
[15:25] <jim_p> Irishman2020, did you uninstall these kernels?
[15:25] <Irishman2020> no, just went into the startup manager in ubuntu and set it to limit to 1 kernel
[15:26] <Riverhed> Yeah :P
[15:26] <Irishman2020> so I didnt have to go through a list of kernels... but apparently that removed the kernel that did not have the -rt on it
[15:26] <Irishman2020> what is the -rt for?
[15:26] <jim_p> Irishman2020, well then its simple.
[15:26] <n8tuser2> real time
[15:26] <lat>  Our server connects to the Internet via eth0, and connects to the LAN via eth1. Server and Desktops can ping each other, but desktops can't access Internet. What might be wrong?
[15:26] <Slart> !info linux-image-rt
[15:26] <Irishman2020> for some reason the -rt doesnt work...
[15:26] <jim_p> Irishman2020, -rt = real time. no time loss in log writing and stuff
[15:27] <Mez> !studio
[15:27] <Irishman2020> yep, and it fails to boot on my comp... I can see the loading screen, but it dies afterwords
[15:27] <Andy_> hi
[15:27] <jim_p> Irishman2020, what is your current uname -r ?
[15:27] <n8tuser2> Irishman2020-> look for kernels in /boot
[15:27] <Andy_> i wanted to try new themes so i installed compiz and emerald
[15:27] <Andy_> i read faqs and all
[15:27] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: The tutorials I've seen use version 0.8.1-6, but apparently there's 0.8.2 available. Since I'm new to Linux I'm not sure how to patch it or uninstall/install the new version.
[15:27] <Andy_> and finnaly
[15:27] <Andy_> concluded that i wont work at my PC
[15:28] <Andy_> so i ..well went back to the default theme to find that the top bar of every folder
[15:28] <Pici> !enter | Andy_
[15:28] <Slart> Irishman2020: where did you find this startup-manager? it's installed by default?
[15:28] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: what you can do is, uninstall your current version using a 'dpkg' command. download the source tarball of the newer version, unpack it and compile it,  then use 'checkinstall' to install it
[15:28] <Andy_> oh okay
[15:28] <Andy_> my top bar which has close minimize has disappeared
[15:28] <Irishman2020> slart> not sure, I might have added it, but it was part of the ubuntu standard repo's
[15:28] <Pici> !latest > Riverhed
[15:29] <jim_p> Irishman2020, for the amount of the kernels in grub: inside /boot/grub/menu.lst there is an option that says         howmany=1   or some other number . comment it out or change it to    howmany=all
[15:29] <kevin_405_1> a
[15:29] <Andy_> and when i run windows manager it shows these setting cannot work wiht your current manager (unknow)
[15:29] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: in ubuntu, this package might be called... wacom-tools
[15:29] <Slart> Irishman2020: ah.. found it... that "limit kernels" option probable just limits the number of kernels you can see when you boot.. they are still there.. they just don't show up in the grub menu
[15:29] <Irishman2020> ok, problem is, theres only 1 name in the /menu.lst.
[15:30] <jim_p> Irishman2020, so you only have one kernel?!?
[15:30] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: try the following command...  dpkg -l wacom-tools
[15:30] <Andy_> can i roll back xubuntu as it was when i installed it yesterday?
[15:30] <Slart> Irishman2020: yes.. that's what the kernel limit number is for, afaik
[15:30] <orgthingy> jim_p : how many kernels do you want then -.-
[15:30] <heril> jim_p: he's saying that there is only one kernel in the boot loader list
[15:30] <jim_p> Andy_, in general, no. what is todays problem?
[15:30] <kristian_> i want to make one hdd as one partition, format it as ext2/ext3 and mount it, and make it stay mounted after boot. *via terminal*. where do i begin?
[15:30] <jim_p> orgthingy, all maybe!
[15:30] <Andy_> and when i run windows manager it shows these setting cannot work wiht your current manager (unknow)
[15:30] <Slart> Irishman2020: you can change it and run "sudo update-grub" and the other kernels will be included again
[15:31] <jim_p> and the fallback option!
[15:31] <Irishman2020> thats what it shows now... menu.lst has the opton with the kernel items, but they have dissapeared in the menu.lst :)
[15:31] <Andy_> also the op bar of evry folder or programme is missing the one which had close minimize and all
[15:31] <Andy_> top bar*
[15:31] <jim_p> Irishman2020, then do whatever Slart said
[15:31] <heril> Irishman2020: you'll have to add them back in, either manually or with a utility
[15:31] <Irishman2020> its way too busy in this channel... I'll try changing that
[15:31] <Irishman2020> thanks
[15:32] <Andy_> so..any solutions or should i rephrase my problem?
[15:32] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: ii  wacom-tools    1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubu utilities for Wacom tablet devices
[15:32] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, that is probably it then
[15:33] <leequarella> ok, ubuntu is installed and running nicely... now how do I get my second monitor working?
[15:33] <jim_p> Andry, open a terminal, type            metacity --replace           and stop compi
[15:33] <jim_p> *compiz
[15:33] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Any chance you can give me some more specific commands for uninstalling the old version and installing the new one? I'm quite new to it and really don't know many commands.
[15:33] <Riverhed> It's a wonder I've gotten this far :P
[15:34] <Riverhed> Of course, I probably shouldn't have undertaken this project during finals week... lol
[15:34] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: hang on, brb
[15:35] <Andy_> yeaa thankx
[15:35] <Andy_> just one question..what is metacity?
[15:35] <LeeQ> Anyone know how to set up dual-monitors?  they both show the ubuntu load screen, but after it is loaded one (the one hooked into the DVI port) goes blank and i am in a single monitor mode
[15:36] <Andy_> nvm i gtg
[15:36] <jim_p> kevin_405_1, are you done with wicd and the like?
[15:36] <TTilus> gxine fails weirdly, opens dvd menu fine, and hangs on language selection, pastie of terminal output here http://pastie.org/341346
[15:36] <TTilus> "non-seekable inputs aren't supported yet" sounds pretty fatal to me
[15:37] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: i'm not 100% certain how much time i have before i have to leave
[15:37] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: but we can get started if you want
[15:37] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Ok, sure.
[15:37] <jim_p> TTilus, have you tried another player?
[15:38] <TTilus> google only suggests checking region code, done, no effect (and other discs seem to play fine)
[15:38] <Riverhed> I could probably find the original tutorial on installing it if I need to but it wasn't working so great for me before. If you have to go I'll check it out and see if I can make sense of it now.
[15:38] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, download it and let me know when you've got it downloaded
[15:38] <jim_p> TTilus, have you tried another player?
[15:38] <TTilus> jim_p: totem with gstreamer failed
[15:38] <TTilus> havent given mplayer or vlc a shot yet
[15:39] <jim_p> TTilus, mplayer does not have dvd menus and the like. give it a try
[15:39] <kke> can i somehow burn a dvd when running from live dvd?
[15:39] <TTilus> what i find strange is that gxine on older ubuntu on another box plays the problematic disc, but this hardy doesnt
[15:39] <joaopinto> kke, don't think so
[15:39] <Riverhed> Alright, got linuxwacom-0.8.1-6.tar.bz2 downloaded. It's not the most recent, but it's the stable one everyone else with the same hardware and whatnot is using that it works with.
[15:40] <TTilus> kke: yes you can, if you only have insane amount of memory and two dvd drives
[15:40] <TTilus> kke: aka not really...
[15:40] <kristian_> i want to make one hdd as one partition, format it as ext2/ext3 and mount it, and make it stay mounted after boot. *via terminal*. where do i begin? "sudo fdisk -l" = http://paste.ubuntu.com/87126/ atm.
[15:40] <kke> TTilus: why does it require memory?
[15:41] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: 0.8.1-6 really isn't much newer than the one you already have
[15:41] <ttye0> My /dev/sda5 is the latest 'stable' reiserfs format, the rest of the partitions are ext3 and swap. One day I rebooted and it didn't see my reiser partition. I dd'd my whole /dev/sda and have a backup. Due to the fact reiserfsck refuses to see it as reiser, does anyone have any suggestions for me getting a portion of my data back from /dev/sda5? I have looked at numerous resources, but have had no luck thus far
[15:41] <anhdh> I use firefox 3.04 and why my flash player doesn;t work? i can't watch video on youtube:(
[15:41] <joaopinto> kristian_, sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[15:41] <chiliblue> whats the latest ubuntu intrepid?
[15:41] <nolfie> yes
[15:41] <sinbox> kke do you want to copy a DVD or buren one from files?
[15:42] <Andy_> okay now i replaced metacity but everytime i log in i have to do it anything to make it permenent, also in settings manager, when i select window manager it says "these settings cannot work with your current window manager (Metacity)"
[15:42] <Pici> chiliblue: Intrepid is the latest Ubuntu version.
[15:42] <kke> sinbox: burn an iso image from memory stick to a dvd
[15:42] <mrfelton> hi
[15:42] <TTilus> kke: where does the stuff come from you'd like to burn?
[15:42] <chiliblue> Pici: thanks
[15:42] <TTilus> kke: it's gotta be somewhere
[15:42] <jim_p> Andy_, metacity is a window manager, like compiz but simpler
[15:42] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: on that front page it says --> Production: 0.8.2   ..so i would download that
[15:42] <sinbox> if you have 2 DVD or a CD and a DVD drive that should work kke
[15:42] <kke> TTilus: yep, it's on usb stick
[15:42] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright. I'll grab that.
[15:42] <TTilus> kke: ok, thats different
[15:42] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[15:42] <TTilus> kke: give it a try
[15:42] <Andy_> yeah but why am i not able to ..get into window manager?
[15:42] <mrfelton> I'm having some strange trouble with my network today. My download seems to be caped at 10KiB/s
[15:42] <TTilus> could work
[15:42] <MF_Debian> anyone made a persistent usb key ?
[15:42] <ech0s7> hi
[15:42] <ech0s7> i would reduce noice of harddisk
[15:43] <Andy_> and how to make the change to metacity permenent
[15:43] <jim_p> Andy_, canr you save your current session?
[15:43] <ech0s7> how it is possible ?
[15:43] <mrfelton> yet if I go onto my router, it tells me I should be getting 7meg
[15:43] <relik77080> hi peeps - I've set mouse clicks to have a sound through the sound preferences dialog, but it doesnt seem to work - i've re logged in but to no avail - any ideas?
[15:43] <Andy_> oh..yeah..well okay and about the windows manager?
[15:43] <Pici> Riverhed: I think installing that version of the wacom module by hand is not what you really want to do. You will end up needed to recompile it every time that the kernel's ABI changes.  Are the fixes between the version that we have in the kernel and the newest version really worth going through all that trouble for?
[15:43] <mrfelton> How can I find out what is causing this download cap?
[15:43] <jim_p> Andy_, that will keep the wm in place
[15:43] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, dsl?
[15:43] <mrfelton> yes
[15:43] <jim_p> mrfelton, your isp?
[15:43] <kke> TTilus: only one drive.. hm hm hm..
[15:44] <Andy_> so i will be able to access it if i save this session?
[15:44] <mrfelton> but my router says it is getting full speed
[15:44] <kristian_> joaopinto : thanks! will try it out. :-)
[15:44] <rohdef> if I found a potential security-bug in gksudo, where should I report it?
[15:44] <jim_p> ech0s7, does that sound happen from continuous disk usage?
[15:44] <kke> maybe if i install ubuntu on a memory stick..
[15:44] <kevin_405_1> bazhang are u there
[15:44] <joaopinto> kristian_, then you will need to mkfs.ext3 to format the partition, once it's created,
[15:44] <relik77080> hi peeps - I've set mouse clicks to have a sound through the sound preferences dialog, but it doesnt seem to work - i've re logged in but to no avail - any ideas?
[15:44] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, yes
[15:44] <ech0s7> jim_p: yess
[15:44] <mrfelton> is there something I can use to analyse the network somehow?
[15:44] <Andy_> nvm i will try it
[15:45] <kevin_405_1> i went through the ling
[15:45] <TTilus> kke: prepare to get your first shot ruined, because it could very well be that ubuntu wants to read live dvd during the burn
[15:45] <kevin_405_1> i went through the link
[15:45] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd.  when i eject and check it, it's fine.  the error has something to do with not being able to mount the disc.  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[15:45] <Pici> !enter
[15:45] <Pici> !who
[15:45] <kevin_405_1> last step some issues
[15:45] <Riverhed> Pici: For now I'm just experimenting with Linux/Ubuntu and want to see if I can get everything working. It's largely for the challenge, and I'd really like it to work right. It's worth a shot to me.
[15:45] <jim_p> ech0s7, laptop or desktop?
[15:45] <kevin_405_1> can i  PM u there is too much scroll here
[15:45] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright, I've got 0.8.2.
[15:45] <ech0s7> jim_p: laptop
[15:45] <Pici> Riverhed: Okay, just wanted to make sure :)
[15:45] <ech0s7> the hd is i a toshiba of 320GB
[15:45] <jim_p> ech0s7, one thing i can imagine is some cron job doing updatedb constantly
[15:45] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, best to keep it in channel
[15:45] <TTilus> kke: installing into stick should work fine
[15:46] <eagles0513875> i need some help changing the su password everythim i issue passwd it wants to change the passwd of the account im on
[15:46] <jim_p> ech0s7, either you delete that job, or disable cron altogether
[15:46] <ech0s7> jim_p: it happen also with other distribution / winXP / Vista
[15:46] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, well the 7Mb is the rate negotiated between the exchange and your router, not indicative of real world speeds at all, do you have a data cap on your plan that drops you down in speed when you reach it or similar
[15:46] <kke> TTilus: i only have 8.04 live dvd, i recall 8.10 had some "install on usb stick" -feature, is it a big hassle with 8.04?
[15:46] <bazhang> !noroot > eagles0513875
[15:46] <Slart> !usb
[15:46] <kevin_405_1> This step in the instructions "sudo wpa_supplicant -D<****see footer below***> -i<interface> -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd " what do i use for -D  wext does not work
[15:46] <jim_p> ech0s7, vista and have that indexing service that is the exact same thing
[15:46] <mrfelton> MF_Debian, what, that drops me down to 12K ?!
[15:46] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.  in your home directory... mkdir src && cd src
[15:46] <eagles0513875> bazhang only reason i need it is to populate the apt-build.list in /etc/apt so i can run an apt-build world
[15:46] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, which wifi chipset
[15:46] <mrfelton> MF_Debian, no. This is unlimited broadband from bt
[15:47] <ech0s7> jim_p: so i can stop crond ?
[15:47] <bietz> hey everybody, do you know how to access a laptop webcam from a c++ program?
[15:47] <bazhang> eagles0513875, what distro are you using?
[15:47] <jim_p> ech0s7, yes. i have
[15:47] <relik77080> hi peeps - I've set mouse clicks to have a sound through the sound preferences dialog, but it doesnt seem to work - i've re logged in but to no avail - any ideas?
[15:47] <kevin_405_1> i am using ndis wrapper with windows driver it is a broadcom 4311 v0.1
[15:47] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Ok.
[15:47] <eagles0513875> ubuntu server converted to kubuntu cuz im having issues with kubuntu on my laptop for some reason
[15:47] <Pici> bietz: Try asking in ##c++
[15:47] <heril> bietz: using a webcam library
[15:47] <ech0s7> jim_p: there is any utils that show what files are using hd ?
[15:47] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, have you tried a speedtest site?
[15:47] <bietz> pici you're right..
[15:47] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, this is ubuntu 8.10?
[15:47] <kevin_405_1> yes
[15:48] <jim_p> well done eagles0513875. i use the same thing almost. server installation to gnome!
[15:48] <mrfelton> yes. it says I'm getting 12k!!
[15:48] <Andy_> okay now i saved my sessiong and thank you i can see the bar now but my second problem remains, i am unable to access my window manager and can anyone tell me what manager was i using by default when i installed xubuntu, the version is 8.0.4 LTS.
[15:48] <n4th4n> lu all
[15:48] <mrfelton> usually I get 7000 odd
[15:48] <jim_p> ech0s7, i dont know of one
[15:48] <jim_p> :(
[15:48] <kevin_405_1> i see in man that i can use -Dndis for windows ndis driver but my ndiswrapper does not have it
[15:48] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, well i would call BT if I were you
[15:48] <ech0s7> jim_p: i have stopped crond
[15:48] <ech0s7> but hd is runnig alwways
[15:49] <jim_p> ech0s7, can you reboot?
[15:49] <mrfelton> MF_Debian, on the phone now!
[15:49] <ech0s7> yes jim_p
[15:49] <ech0s7> now i try to reboot
[15:49] <Andy_> jim_p: jump any suggestions?
[15:49] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, heh
[15:49] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, did the restricted drivers not work with that?
[15:49] <RediXe> How do I install a TTF font? xubuntu 8.04
[15:50] <kevin_405_1> nope
[15:50] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... the tar command. we will use the -jxvf options. j is to pipe it through the 'bzip2' program(.bz2), x means 'extract', v means 'verbose'(we want to see output), and f means 'we are specifying a file'(otherwise it thinks you want to archive something)
[15:50] <jim_p> Andy_, go to System > preferences > sessions. somewhere in there is the save session button
[15:50] <Slart> RediXe: create a dir called .fonts in your home folder, copy it there
[15:50] <Slart> RediXe: this will only make the font usable by you, not other users on the same system
[15:51] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright.
[15:51] <RediXe> Slart: Thanks, I read to put in a .fonts directory but couldn't find it .. didn't know I needed to make it :)
[15:51] <Andy_> jim_p: first, i dont have pref options, second i have saved my session its just that i am unable to access window manager, and what is the default window manager for xubuntu 8.0.4 LTS
[15:51] <Slart> RediXe: =).. there is a system folder with the same purpose.. but I find this is the easiest way
[15:52] <jim_p> Andy_, the default network manager for Xubuntu is xfwm
[15:52] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: So tar -jxvf linuxwacom-0.8.2.tar.bz2?
[15:52] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: tar -jxvf /path_to_file/filename -C .   ...the    -C .   means 'change to the directory i'm currently in'. otherwise it will unpack it in the directory where the file is sitting
[15:52] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[15:52] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: make sure you have the   -C .   on the end
[15:52] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, any clue as to why this stopped working? did you do an upgrade/change kernels version or other?
[15:53] <kevin_405_1> nope no idea
[15:53] <Andy_> jim_p: can you give me the command to install it?
[15:53] <LordDicranius> I have a small network setup with Ubuntu Server acting as a router and Ubuntu Desktop on the workstation.  From the router I'm able to ping google.com by its name and IP address, but from the workstation I'm only able to ping it's IP address.  I'm having issues with the name resoltion on the desktop.  anybody have any ideas?
[15:53] <kevin_405_1> no change on my end
[15:53] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: you should now have a new folder in your 'src' dir
[15:53] <mossmon> i-offtopic
[15:53] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, is the card detected? and can it see the essid?
[15:53] <kevin_405_1> yes
[15:53] <heril> LordDicranius: is the server configured as a dhcp server?
[15:54] <jim_p> Andy_, are you on xubuntu and metacity worked?!?!
[15:54] <bizkwet> hi, how do i kill pulseaudio or know if it's running..
[15:54] <bizkwet> ubuntu noob here.. sorry :)
[15:54] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, and have you tried disabling the encryption to see if you can get it working that way? did you associate the AP as in that link I gave you?
[15:54] <simplexio> LordDicranius: yes. learn netwokring. also echo 1  > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward could help
[15:54] <Andy_> jim_p yeah
[15:55] <Slart> bizkwet: pkill pulseaudio to kill it.. pulseaudio -D to start it.. man pulseaudio for more options
[15:55] <kevin_405_1> yes uncryped works
[15:55] <heril> bizkwet: open up a terminal and execute
[15:55] <LordDicranius> heril: no, I have 192.168.1.x static addresses setup on the internal NIC on the router and the NIC on the desktop
[15:55] <heril> ps -e|grep pulseaudio
[15:55] <heril> that will tell you if its running
[15:55] <jim_p> Andy_, Xubuntu does not have metacity because it has xfce!
[15:55] <Andy_> jim_p: can you please give me the command to download ..xfwm?
[15:55] <LordDicranius> simplexio: I know networking...IP forwarding is already enabled on the router, as well as IP masquerading
[15:55] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: did you unpack it? do you now have a new directory in your 'src' dir?
[15:55] <kevin_405_1> what do u mean assosiate create the wpa_supp.conf file
[15:55] <kevin_405_1> yes i did that
[15:55] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yeah, I've got linuxwacom-0.8.2 directory in src
[15:56] <Andy_> jim_p: okay so what should i do now to make things normal?
[15:56] <LordDicranius> heril, simplexio: I also have bind9 installed on the router with forwarders configured, but that's not helping either
[15:56] <topsub> Can anyone give me some insight as to why you would want to split your VMWare into 2gb files for ubuntu?
[15:56] <ti-grrr> how can i tell if i have NFS server working?
[15:56] <jim_p> Andy_, a) are you sure you are on Xubuntu?
[15:56] <simplexio> LordDicranius: dns configured on client machine
[15:56] <CarlFK> if xorg needs sudo modprobe aty128fb - how do I make that happen?  (pretty sure there is a file to put module names in, or better a xorg.conf option)
[15:56] <Andy_> jim_p 100%
[15:56] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, no I mean to associate the nic with the ap (the wifi hotspot)
[15:56] <kevin_405_1> which part of the instruction is irt
[15:56] <LordDicranius> simplexio: yes, configured with the router's internal IP
[15:56] <kevin_405_1> which part of the instruction is it
[15:56] <Andy_> jim_p: I am new but not a retard..yeah i am on Xubuntu 8.0.4 LTS
[15:56] <SuwerRat> need a good firewall - work with a bunch of non trusting windows people and want to keep them off my laptop while jacked into the system
[15:57] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... go into it.  then do   ./configure --help  ..look at the beginning of the output from that for   --prefix=
[15:57] <jim_p> Andy_, so you have thunar and the like! that means you also have xfwm
[15:57] <jim_p> Andy_, anyway                        sudo apt-get install xfwm4
[15:57] <simplexio> LordDicranius: well do you have bind9 running in router ?
[15:57] <jim_p> i have to go people
[15:57] <jim_p> later
[15:57] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, how many entries show when you type ifconfig
[15:58] <SuwerRat> right now running firestarter  and not sure if thats all the protection I need
[15:58] <LordDicranius> simplexio: yes, I restarted the service (successfully) after I configured the forwarders
[15:58] <Slart> SuwerRat: firestarter isn't a firewall
[15:58] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[15:58] <Andy_> jim_p unable to lockthe admin direct....are you the root?
[15:58] <jim_p> SuwerRat, relax, iptables is smart enough to do tha job
[15:58] <kevin_405_1> my terminal is hanging
[15:58] <Ghordan> heya
[15:58] <jim_p> Andy_, do you have synaptic open?
[15:58] <TTilus> jim_p: now tried mplayer with menus, it prints a couple of "Error cracking CSS key" to console and finally, when i click one of the languages to start the movie, it fails with "libdvdnav: ifoRead_VOBU_ADMAP vtsi failed - CRASHING"
[15:58] <kevin_405_1> jeez it feel like i am on windows
[15:58] <LordDicranius> simplexio: I created a thread here that might give more insight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1013908
[15:58] <Slart> SuwerRat: nothing beats knowledge when it comes to staying secure.. the firewall is called iptables.. firestarter is just a gui
[15:58] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, the command does not execute?
[15:58] <Andy_> jimp: no.
[15:59] <Slart> !firewall | SuwerRat
[15:59] <kevin_405_1> ifconfig does not comeback
[15:59] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: it shows as currently being set to  /usr/local  we will change that.. as wall as the prefix for 'sysconfdir'(just to make sure)
[15:59] <kevin_405_1> opened new terminal stilll no good
[15:59] <Andy_> jim_p: no
[15:59] <jim_p> TTilus, Andy_ i have to leace
[15:59] <Ghordan> have the follow problem: if i start the live cd i cant connect intro the inet over wlan
[15:59] <jim_p> be back in an hour
[15:59] <Ghordan> have someone a idea whats happen?
[15:59] <n8tuser2> kevin_405_1-> it is hanged, reboot
[15:59] <Andy_> uh okay
[15:59] <chief> hi, what would course windows to be able to effectively write to my samba shear on my server, and ubuntu to call permission denied on writing to the same place?
[15:59] <SuwerRat> thank you -
[15:59] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, how long has that been happening (ie no return from terminal commands)
[15:59] <TTilus> jim_p: ok, np
[15:59] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright.
[15:59] <jim_p> TTilus, you may need the dvd decoding library
[15:59] <jim_p> !dvd
[15:59] <jim_p> bye
[16:00] <n8tuser2> Ghordan-> which chip does your wifi uses?
[16:00] <simplexio> LordDicranius: easies way is just edit clients resolv.conf and add those nameserver there (same as router has )
[16:00] <SuwerRat> learn something every day and I will finally break the chains of windows :)
[16:00] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, so to get it configured do...  ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
[16:00] <MF_Debian> Slart, thanks for the link about usb key installs, after reading them, i find that the batch file you get from pendrive.com, doenst actually do whats necessary to make a persistent installation
[16:00] <TTilus> jim_p: ive got it, and all the other discs play fine (disney productions too)
[16:00] <LordDicranius> simplexio: ah, hadn't thought of that.  I'll give that a try, thx
[16:00] <simplexio> LordDicranius: my best quess is that bind isnt configured right
[16:00] <LordDicranius> simplexio: mmk, I'll look more into that too, thx :)
[16:00] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright, it's running now.
[16:00] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[16:01] <Slart> MF_Debian: nice.. did you get it working?
[16:01] <Ghordan> n8tuser2 it is a AR5007EG if i check on the live cd he see it correct
[16:01] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:01] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.. good. it finished with no errors eh? rare... hehe
[16:01] <n8tuser2> Ghordan-> i will brb..hang on
[16:01] <simplexio> LordDicranius: i usually make samekind "router" using transparent bridge configuration
[16:02] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I'm assuming it would report errors at the end?
[16:02] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: yes
[16:02] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Guess I'm golden then ;)
[16:02] <kristian_> joaopinto : i did "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb", then "new", then "primary", then "enter" (maximum size), then "write", then "yes" and i get: "No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this. Toggle bootable flag of the current partition". i also tried the same except using "logical" and i get the same thing. ubuntu is installed on sda1 so i don't want my machine to boot from sdb1. or does the bootable option having nothing t
[16:02] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, good. now type simply..   make
[16:03] <LordDicranius> simplexio: ok, I'll keep that in mind. bbiab
[16:03] <kevin_405> bazhang my system hung
[16:03] <android6011> will having multipple window managers installed, kde gnome and xfce have any effect on system resources other than just the space on hd
[16:03] <kevin_405> sorry had to reboot
[16:03] <Riverhed> k
[16:03] <bazhang> kevin_405, how long was that happening? ie terminal commands not responding
[16:03] <kevin_405> just started
[16:03] <MF_Debian> slart, no i'll have to do it again, and i'll do whats required manually so I can get persistence, but apart from that it works amazingly well, perfect for me cos I'm staying at my brothers, and using his laptop, so I just jam in the usb key and yay no more win
[16:03] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:03] <kevin_405> after the wpa_supplicant stuff
[16:04] <kevin_405> cant belive ubuntu is so flaky
[16:04] <bazhang> kevin_405, did you try the fwcutter method (ie no ndis)
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[16:04] <FloodBot3> Ca6aka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, very well.  now uninstall the version that you currently have...   dpkg --purge wacom-tools
[16:05] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Gotta use sudo I'm guessing, says I don't have permission?
[16:05] <joaopinto> kristian_, do you intend to boot from that partition ?
[16:05] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: yes.. sudo
[16:05] <kevin_405> what is that bazhang
[16:05] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright, done.
[16:05] <kristian_> joaopinto : no i intend to use it as storage only. im booting of a partition on /dev/sda, sda1. now i just want to be able to use /dev/sdb.
[16:05] <kevin_405> i have not tried fwcutter..
[16:06] <jabbadoo> Is there anyone that knows anything about how to get all users on a system to have the permission to run script.sh as ROOT?
[16:06] <kevin_405> can u send me links
[16:06] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, let's install 'checkinstall'   sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[16:06] <anirudh0> jabbadoo: set the UID bit to root
[16:06] <android6011> is there a way to make the tty screens look better (smaller font, maybe color like gentoo) ?
[16:06] <bazhang> kevin_405, have never had luck (ever) with ndiswrapper; check synaptic for broadcom
[16:06] <anirudh0> android6011: modify the PS1 variable
[16:06] <kevin_405> can u send some links please
[16:07] <android6011> anirudh0: how do i do that
[16:07] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:07] <anirudh0> android6011:  http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/howtos/Bash-Prompt/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO-2.html
[16:07] <gmgj> I have 2 sndcards, I want to disable one of them; How?
[16:07] <bazhang> kevin_405, you have synaptic package manager correct?
[16:07] <Ward1983> if i need software that is not in the repo's, can i just do ./configure and make but no make install?
[16:08] <kevin_405> yes
[16:08] <jabbadoo> anirudh, how? chmod u+s or what?
[16:08] <anirudh0> Ward1983: yes
[16:08] <bazhang> Ward1983, which software
[16:08] <anirudh0> Ward1983: If you want to use it "in place"
[16:08] <joaopinto> Ward1983, it depends on the software, if it's just a binary you dont need to install it
[16:08] <android6011> thanks
[16:08] <Ward1983> than all
[16:08] <Pici> Ward1983: If you just 'make' then it won't be copied into the filesystem, you will only be able to run it from that directory.
[16:08] <Ward1983> bazhang, gephex
[16:08] <anirudh0> Ward1983: make install is a __much__ better idea though
[16:08] <joaopinto> anirudh0, you can't use it in place it if points to data files on the system...
[16:08] <kristian_> joaopinto : i got to go! dinner time. oh well, i will try to make it more clear when i come back, if your still around and still have time.
[16:08] <joaopinto> kristian_, ok :)
[16:09] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.. let get the docs together for the package that checkinstall will make.   mkdir doc-pak && cd doc-pak && cp -v ../AUTHORS ../Changelog ../GPL ../LGPL ../REAMDE .
[16:09] <kevin_405> synaptic has b43-fwcutter
[16:09] <kevin_405> no fwcutter
[16:09] <anirudh0> joaopinto: points==links?
[16:09] <n8tuser> Ward1983-> the assumption there is you have downloaded a tarball and you cd to its directory and it has a Makefile
[16:09] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: do not miss the   space and dot on the end there... they are needed
[16:09] <jabbadoo> anirudh0, how? chmod u+s or what?
[16:09] <Ward1983> anirudh0, bazhang joaopinto Pici im asking because i want to compile something on a persistent liveCD, is there a better way for persistent liveCD's?
[16:10] <joaopinto> Ward1983, you can make install on a live cd...
[16:10] <anirudh0> Ward1983: yes...http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd
[16:10] <bazhang> Ward1983, how about remastering it
[16:10] <n8tuser> Ward1983-> persistent livecd? that dont make sense
[16:10] <joaopinto> changes will be lost, but you can
[16:10] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I copied/pasted it from yours and it gave some errors
[16:10] <grzegorz129x> hello
[16:10] <Ward1983> joaopinto, i know... but did you consider some systems are ATI and some are nvidia?
[16:10] <grzegorz129x> i have 2 wifi cards:
[16:10] <grzegorz129x> 00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[16:10] <grzegorz129x> 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
[16:10] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: i had a typo...   cp -v ../README .
[16:10] <joaopinto> Ward1983, ah :P
[16:10] <kevin_405> baz are u there
[16:11] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Going to cp/paste the errors in a pm
[16:11] <bazhang> Ward1983, /msg ubottu remaster  ; also check out uck (ubuntu customization kit)
[16:11] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[16:11] <grzegorz129x> how to set AP mode on first card ?
[16:11] <n8tuser> Ghordan-> okay where were we?
[16:11] <Ward1983> bazhang, well gephex is a graphical tool, for live video
[16:11] <joaopinto> Ward1983, what program are you referring too ?
[16:11] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Oh, I'll try it without the typo first :P
[16:11] <grzegorz129x> (i try to share internet from second card)
[16:11] <Ward1983> joaopinto, gephex (www.gephex.org)
[16:11] <deanharris> anyone know the program called processing? can you help me with the program as im trying to do something.
[16:11] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: allright
[16:11] <Ghordan> i dont bring it to work
[16:11] <Ward1983> bazhang, so i think if i compile on my nvidia system it wont work on ATI no?
[16:11] <bazhang> kevin_405, you need to baz <tab key> and that will bring my whole nick, otherwise I will miss some of your comments
[16:11] <Ghordan> to connect to the inet
[16:12] <n8tuser> !who | Ghordan
[16:12] <Ward1983> bazhang, so i thought: maybe i can jsut do make, and compile again in another dit on a ATI system
[16:12] <bazhang> Ward1983, compile? which app?
[16:12] <Ward1983> bazhang, gephex still... :s
[16:12] <Ward1983> dit == dir
[16:12] <deanharris> !tab
[16:12] <bazhang> Ward1983, any hints what gephex is?
[16:12] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: doo you know what tab completion on filenames is?
[16:12] <Ghordan> n8tuser kk
[16:12] <deanharris> !tab baz ?
[16:12] <Ward1983> bazhang, a live video tool
[16:13] <bazhang> deanharris, baz <tab>
[16:13] <n8tuser> Ghordan-> are you booted on the livecd now? and chatting from livecd ?
[16:13] <deanharris> ahh
[16:13] <deanharris> i see
[16:13] <kevin_405> bazhang,  sorry
[16:13] <Ghordan> no
[16:13] <bazhang> kevin_405, nice :)
[16:13] <Ghordan> im on win atm
[16:13] <kevin_405> bazhang, i am a irc novice
[16:13] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: bash tab completion.. you know that means?
[16:13] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Not really :P
[16:13] <Ward1983> bazhang, from its site "Gephex is a modular video jockey software. The base visuals can be chosen from sources like video files or cameras. Then they can be modified by filters and mixers. Each modifier has several parameters, that can be controlled by signal-generators, input devices like joysticks, sound cards, or midi-devices."
[16:13] <Ghordan> n8tuser im on win atm
[16:13] <bazhang> kevin_405, open up synaptic manager and search for broadcom
[16:14] <n8tuser> Ghordan-> wireless or ethernet connections?
[16:14] <gmgj> Has the admin thought about disabling people joining and leaving the list when there are over 100 people in the room?
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: helps prevent so much typing and helps prevent typos
[16:14] <TTilus> ive got a problematic dvd, hardy won't play (older ubuntu plays fine on different box), trials here http://pastie.org/341346
[16:14] <Ghordan> n8tuser wireless
[16:14] <jrib> gmgj: that's up to your client
[16:14] <n8tuser> gmgj nope, not necessary
[16:14] <SuwerRat> thanks again everyone I have a lot of reading to do - Have a nice holiday
[16:14] <kevin_405> bazhang, i am trying to read on fwcutter will get back to u
[16:14] <bazhang> Ward1983, dont think the video card will come into play in that situation though
[16:14] <n8tuser> !wireless | Ghordan
[16:14] <deanharris> anyone got program called processing? if so, can you help me with this?
[16:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: anyway... did it work? you get the files copied ok?
[16:15] <Ward1983> bazhang, well maybe, most is done trough the CPU in gephex, but im jsut not sure
[16:15] <anirudh0> TTilus: when mplayer hangs...does it consume cpu?
[16:15] <allsystemsarego> TTilus, do you have libdvdcss2 on your system?
[16:15] <TTilus> anirudh0: no
[16:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: whilein the doc-pak dir type   ls
[16:15] <Ward1983> bazhang, im afraid i will mess up my persistent system
[16:15] <deanharris> baz !tab test test
[16:15] <deanharris> nvm
[16:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: see if all the files are there
[16:15] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I sent you a pm with the errors.
[16:15] <TTilus> allsystemsarego: i think i do
[16:15] <anirudh0> TTilus: hmm....and does hard disk show load?
[16:15] <TTilus> anirudh0: no disc load
[16:16] <TTilus> it just plain hangs
[16:16] <n8tuser> deanharris-> is it an ubuntu supported app?
[16:16] <deanharris> yeah
[16:16] <allsystemsarego> TTilus, try vlc
[16:16] <TTilus> allsystemsarego: already tried, see pastie
[16:16] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: type pwd... show me the response
[16:16] <n8tuser> !who > deanharris
[16:16] <anirudh0> TTilus: is it region locked?
[16:17] <TTilus> allsystemsarego: checked, i do have libdvdcss2 installed
[16:17] <deanharris> !n8 test test
[16:17] <kdogg> why is everything greyed out when i try to use gparted?
[16:17] <TTilus> dunno
[16:17] <deanharris> hm
[16:17] <TTilus> anirudh0: dunno about regionlocking, but other region 2 discs play fine
[16:17] <TTilus> anirudh0: and gxine and vlc are able to show dvd menu
[16:18] <Ward1983> kdogg, what is greyed out?
[16:18] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: hello?  type pwd... show me the response
[16:18] <kdogg> im trying to resize my partiiton to make room for another
[16:18] <anirudh0> TTilus: I'm clueless...sorry
[16:18] <Ward1983> kdogg, maybe its still mounted or something
[16:18] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Sorry, got an important call.
[16:18] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[16:18] <deanharris> n8 !tab test
[16:18] <Ward1983> kdogg, if its still mounted just unmount en retry :)
[16:18] <kdogg> Ward1983 maybe i have to mount with the live cd?
[16:18] <n8tuser> deanharris-> you type n8t then press tab key
[16:18] <anirudh0> kdogg: ofcourse
[16:18] <TTilus> anirudh0: np, this looks pretty voodoo to me too and im not a linux newbie to begin with  ;)
[16:18] <Ward1983> kdogg, you cannot mount it and then resize it...
[16:19] <anirudh0> kdogg: you can't resize a mounted filesystem!
[16:19] <deanharris> n8tuser: got it
[16:19] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: riverhed@riverhed-tablet:~/src/linuxwacom-0.8.2/doc-pak/doc-pak/doc-pak$
[16:19] <kdogg> lol
[16:19] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I guess from trying the command a couple times, lol.
[16:19] <deanharris> n8tuser: thanks :)
[16:19] <Ward1983> kdogg, you can only alter partitions that are not mounted
[16:19] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Brb real quick, sorry.
[16:19] <kdogg> cool
[16:19] <Ward1983> kdogg, also resizing can go wrong so backup first
[16:19] <deanharris> anyone help me with the program called processing?
[16:19] <kdogg> i have to install windows on that new partition im making, how will I restore grub after?
[16:19] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: let me know when you are back
[16:20] <n8tuser> deanharris-> what does that do? be clear on the description
[16:20] <TTilus> deanharris: dont ask to as, just ask
[16:20] <TTilus> ;)
[16:20] <Ward1983> kdogg, resizing can go wrong so backup first
[16:20] <anirudh0> kdogg: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FRecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows&ei=viZJSdShIY-zkAXAz4VY&usg=AFQjCNHW_iMjuSRvjNQIsiNTcFcjic1m5Q&sig2=9BJDnH9PrCHnIqTS6aTmhQ
[16:20] <deanharris> TTilus:  what that mean? lol
[16:20] <Ward1983> kdogg, what kind of windows?
[16:20] <Ward1983> kdogg, xp or vista or something else?
[16:20] <kdogg> Vista.
[16:21]  * kdogg hides.
[16:21] <kdogg> how often does resizing a partition go bad?
[16:21] <Ward1983> kdogg, you can also add grub to the vista bootloader lol, its pretty conveniant trough easyBCD, but its probably nice to have the other way around
[16:21] <TTilus> deanharris: you dont need to ask "does anyone want to help me" because this is a support channel :)  you can just state your question
[16:21] <Ward1983> kdogg, dunjno just backup to make sure
[16:22] <anirudh0> kdogg: whats the filesystem type?
[16:22] <kevin_405> bazhang, how do i make fwcutter my active driver
[16:22] <kdogg> the fs type will be ntfs
[16:22] <deanharris> TTilus:  i see thanks
[16:22] <kevin_405> bazhang, fwcutter has been installed
[16:22] <Ward1983> kdogg, the filesystem type of the partition you are going to resize he means, which is probably ext3
[16:22] <Quagmire> Guys I have question about hardware compatibility ....lets say it turns out that my CD/DVD  drive turns out to not be compatible. Is there anything you can do to get a piece of hardware to work? Can you request a work around or do those pieces generally get addressed at some point? I'll admit to being a bit ignorant on the subject and I figure maybe this will clear up my questions, so thanks.
[16:23] <kdogg> probably, it was just a normal install
[16:23] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Back.
[16:23] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, cool
[16:23] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: cd ../..
[16:23] <Padhu> Hi
[16:23] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:23] <Ward1983> anirudh0, he's resizing his ext3 partition, to make room for a NTFS partition for vista (and also wants to know how to restore grub afterwards, and add vista to it)
[16:23] <Ward1983> kdogg, use highlighting lol
[16:23] <Padhu> to all :-)
[16:24] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: then   rm -r doc-pak.... then pwd and show me
[16:24] <anirudh0> kdogg: ext3 is probably the safest fs to resize
[16:24] <Ward1983> kdogg, if you type the first few letters of a nickname you can use tab to autocomplete it :)
[16:24] <kdogg> Ward1983 sorry :D
[16:24] <kevin_405> bazhang, are u there ..
[16:24] <Ward1983> kdogg, no problem its just that people else can miss what you say
[16:25] <kdogg> Ward1983  anirudh0  thanks for your help im of to tr that now.
[16:25] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: /home/riverhed/src/linuxwacom-0.8.2/doc-pak
[16:25] <Ward1983> kdogg, good luck, dont forget to backup just to make sure !
[16:25] <bazhang> kevin_405, yep
[16:25] <TTilus> deanharris: from what package does that hypotetical program called "processing" come from?
[16:25] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok...  cp -v ../AUTHORS ../Changelog ../GPL ../LGPL ../REAMDE .
[16:25] <khomfy> hello
[16:26] <khomfy> i new at ubuntu
[16:26] <aluado> mimi
[16:26] <khomfy> but i have a problem with firefox
[16:26] <deanharris> TTilus: http://www.processing.org/
[16:26] <Ward1983> khomfy, use epiphany :p
[16:26] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: They worked except cp: cannot stat `../Changelog': No such file or directory
[16:26] <aluado> use Opera
[16:26] <khomfy> it slower
[16:27] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Should that be caps also like the others?
[16:27] <khomfy> it slower
[16:27] <Ward1983> LOL
[16:27] <kevin_405> bazhang, do u know how i can make fwcutter my active driver ..
[16:27] <kevin_405> bazhang, my device still shows ndis
[16:27] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: sorry, it's a typo fo mine...  cp -v ../ChangeLog .
[16:27] <Riverhed> k
[16:27] <Ward1983> khomfy, ok, then it must be all the systems i've used so far that will just open opera and epiphany WAY faster then firefox
[16:27] <hovse> -pl
[16:27] <TTilus> deanharris: i cant find package from ubuntu repos, what name does the package have?
[16:28] <hovse> #ubuntu-pl
[16:28] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:28] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: type...  ls   ...they all there now?
[16:28] <TTilus> deanharris: or did you just dl it from the site and install?
[16:28] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yep.
[16:28] <anirudh0> deanharris: interesting program
[16:28] <khomfy> opera just comes without flash plugins
[16:28] <deanharris> TTilus:  yes i dl i from the site
[16:28] <bazhang> kevin_405, did you go into synaptic and install it?
[16:28] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, cool.   cd ..
[16:28] <deanharris> TTilus: where can i find the ubuntu repos?
[16:28] <bazhang> !broadcom | kevin_405 please read this
[16:28] <khomfy> yesterday ie tried for several times to instal them but just didǹt work
[16:29] <TTilus> deanharris: launch any ubuntu package manager and browse packages
[16:29] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yep
[16:29] <kevin_405> bazhang, yes i installed using synaptic
[16:29] <anirudh0> deanharris: they should be visible in synaptic already...enable extra repos in preferences->repos
[16:29] <Quagmire> Any takers on my simple question?
[16:29] <TTilus> deanharris: apps > add/remove, synaptic, aptitude, ...
[16:29] <bazhang> kevin_405, please read that link
[16:29] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: you're in the main linuxwacom-0.8.2 source directory now... correct?
[16:30] <TTilus> deanharris: whats your problem?
[16:30] <jrib> Quagmire: that was easy
[16:30] <deanharris> TTilus:
[16:30] <TTilus> deanharris: installation failed? dunno what to do with it? what?
[16:30] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yes,.
[16:30] <deanharris> TTilus: i guess its the wrong channel
[16:31] <deanharris> TTilus:  because i want to helpw ith the code in the processing (the program)
[16:31] <deanharris> TTilus:  so im on the wrong channel then?
[16:31] <TTilus> deanharris: aaah!  you should go for processing community, not ubuntu
[16:31] <anirudh0> deanharris: most certainly
[16:31] <deanharris> anirudh0: lol ok thanks
[16:31] <NewtuUbuntu> My computer continues to stop playing mp3 files randomly. If I restart my computer, sometimes that will fix the problem temporarily, but then later that day it will go out again. I don't understand why.
[16:31] <deanharris> TTilus:  thanks
[16:31] <TTilus> deanharris: just see their site
[16:31] <deanharris> TTilus:  j
[16:31] <TTilus> deanharris: if they have irc, forums, mailinglists, wikis, anything
[16:32] <deanharris> TTilus:  ok :)
[16:32] <TTilus> deanharris: np
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok. time to install it with checkinstall. type in the following...   checkinstall make install    ...it'll prompt for a shor description, type this in for it --> utilities for Wacom tablet devices
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> short*
[16:33] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:33] <Quagmire> Uh, maybe I should have referenced the question I had asked above my request. ...its further up the screen about hardware compatibility
[16:33] <jrib> Quagmire: ask the actual question.
[16:34] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Do I need to change any other settings or enter to continue?
[16:34] <anirudh0> Quagmire: in general, most hardware is supported
[16:34] <anirudh0> Quagmire: though support may be experimental for some
[16:34] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: nope.. usually you don't need to, so just press Enter... when it done...    dpkg -l linuxwacom
[16:35] <anirudh0> Quagmire: if your piece of hardware is unlucky enough to be unsupported, most of the time you'll just have to wait for the next (many) kernel releases
[16:35] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Installation failed... I'll copy/paste to a pm.
[16:35] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[16:36] <luigi> !paste
[16:36] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Pasted.
[16:36] <Quagmire> Guys I have question about hardware compatibility ....lets say it turns out that my CD/DVD  drive turns out to not be compatible. Is there anything you can do to get a piece of hardware to work? Can you request a work around or do those pieces generally get addressed at some point? I'll admit to being a bit ignorant on the subject and I figure maybe this will clear up my questions, so thanks.
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: doh! i forgot something pretty important... sudo
[16:37] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Haha, yeah, I was thinking that.
[16:37] <iluminator101> How do i delete who contents of a particular folder?
[16:37] <bodobacs> hi! I connected a nokia 6233 to ubuntu 8.04 via USB cable. Ubuntu recognize it and I can start to copy my photos to my computer but after about 16 picuters copy stops.
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: so, you prbably know what to do...  sudo checkinstall make install
[16:38] <iluminator101> How do i delete whole contents of a particular folder?
[16:38] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yeah, tried it, it failed also.
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> oh???
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> grrrr
[16:38] <kristian_> joaopinto : back from dinner. still around? any thoughts on what we discussed?
[16:38] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Looks like the same error as before.
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.. do this   sudo -i
[16:39] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: then   cd /home/riverhed/src/linuxwacom-0.8.2
[16:39] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k, then try checkinstall make install as root?
[16:39] <onetinsoldier> yes
[16:39] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Same thing.
[16:40] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: hmmmm, hang on
[16:40] <Weems> is there a network install iso for linux?
[16:40] <rrohde> Hi guys! Question on transparent proxy: when I route clients through a iptables rule that routes from port 80 to port 9666 of a proxy, each URL request ends up in a "no protocol" error in the client's browser.  The proxy is on another machine in the network. Any idea where to look to get rid of this error?
[16:42] <Padhu> Hi to all
[16:42] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... the man pages are going to be installed in the wrong place i believe, unless we start all over. however, they may still work normally. if not, you can open them with 'zless' i believe, let me see. hang on
[16:43] <Padhu> can not browse web using firefox.
[16:43] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k, hanging on ;)
[16:43] <gizm0> can i ask?
[16:43] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: nvm.. even if they don't get picked up by mandb... then we can just make a symlink.
[16:44] <illissius> greetings
[16:44] <gizm0> to many error when i install..what happen?
[16:44] <MF_Debian> rrohde, using squid?
[16:44] <Ward1983> gizm0, you will have to explain what went wrong
[16:44] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... here goes.   mkdir /usr/man /usr/man4
[16:45] <illissius> I did a dist-upgrade and now my sound doesn't work
[16:45] <Ward1983> gizm0, what is your native language?
[16:45] <rrohde> MF_Debian: nope.. some custom made proxy by our programmers here
[16:45] <gizm0> my md5 all ok..
[16:45] <illissius> doesn't seem to be recognizing any sound cards or smth
[16:45] <gizm0> my cd all ok..
[16:45] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on
[16:45] <gizm0> but after i select install ubuntu..its never end..and to many error on my port
[16:45] <gizm0> what that mean
[16:45] <Ward1983> gizm0, you get cdrom errors while trying to start the CD?
[16:45] <gizm0> nope..
[16:45] <Ward1983> gizm0, i meant your motherlanguage, the language you normally speak
[16:45] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: mkdir: cannot create directory `usr/man4': No such file or directory
[16:45] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:45] <gizm0> after proccess intsall ubuntu
[16:45] <gizm0> malay
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed:  looks like you forgot a /
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed:  mkdir /usr/man /usr/man4
[16:46] <YaManicKill> hey guys
[16:46] <kristian_> joaopinto : i did "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb", then "new", then "primary", then "enter" (maximum size), then "write", then "yes" and i get: "No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this. Toggle bootable flag of the current partition". i also tried the same except using "logical" and i get the same thing. ubuntu is installed on sda1 so i don't want my machine to boot from sdb1. or does the bootable option having nothing t
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: are you the root user?
[16:46] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yeah, I missed that /
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> k
[16:46] <gizm0> if i can ask..how many minute install ubuntu?
[16:47] <MF_Debian> rrohde, bummer, no community to consult in that case, it will not be a prob with the routing, that bit is fool proof
[16:47] <gizm0> i have wait until 800.sumthin2..
[16:47] <bazhang> gizm0, is the install hanging?
[16:47] <Padhu> hi
[16:47] <YaManicKill> i seem to have a problem with nautilus and i've no idea what is wrong. basically, i can't see anything. it is like all black, and when i click on something it does stuff, but nothing changes.
[16:47] <YaManicKill> its really hard to explain
[16:47] <Padhu> i can't browse internet using firefox. please help
[16:47] <Ward1983> gizm0, sorry i don't understand what went wrong, could you try explaining some more?
[16:48] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:48] <TTilus> ive got a problematic dvd, hardy won't play (older ubuntu plays fine on different box), libdvdcss2 installed, tried with gxine, vlc, totem-gstreamer, totem-xine and mplayer, trials here http://pastie.org/341346
[16:48] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: is there now an empty 'usr' dir in the dir you are currently in?
[16:48] <MF_Debian> YaManicKill, i would post a screenshot somewhere if you can
[16:48] <dowN70> can someone help me set up a cron job for a daily reboot?
[16:48] <Padhu> Internet connection is available and only browser is not working
[16:48] <Ward1983> gizm0, if you prefer help in malay you can also go to #ubuntu-my
[16:48] <Ward1983> gizm0, thats the malaysian ubuntu channel :)
[16:49] <amon> how can i make an apparmor profile to open links sent to me in skype in firefox, i tried to allow skype access to /usr/bin/xdg-open, but now it wants to access firefox.sh
[16:49] <bazhang> gizm0, is the installer hanging?
[16:49] <gizm0> yesh bazhang
[16:49] <sekyourbox> dowN70, you dumbass http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-827095.html
[16:49] <gizm0> it not end..
[16:49] <gizm0> but can install already..but never end..
[16:49] <gizm0> to many error
[16:49] <bazhang> gizm0, upgrade? fresh install? live cd or alternate cd? which version of ubuntu
[16:49] <rrohde> MF_Debian: thougth so, as the iptable rule looks like this: $IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i $INTIF --dport 80 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/8 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:9666
[16:49] <alaska> I may not be looking everywhere I can, and I may be missing something obvious, but is Rhythmbox skinnable?
[16:50] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I don't see one... let me check and make sure I did it right.
[16:50] <bazhang> gizm0, try to answer all my questions on one line please , otherwise it is very hard to read
[16:50] <illissius> anyone have an idea why my sound suddenly stopped working after I did a dist-upgrade (& reboot)? and how I might go about fixing it?
[16:50] <gizm0> i download the cd..
[16:50] <racquad> hi there. I want to configure Evolution to check for spam on my Imap mailboxes, but I can't. It seems that under Imap, evolution doesn't run spanassassin, because it doesn't download any message.
[16:50] <racquad> any help?
[16:50] <gizm0> i burn the image already..
[16:50] <illissius> it doesn't seem to be recognizing any sound cards, or something like that
[16:50] <gizm0> i check the md5 all corect..
[16:50] <bazhang> gizm0, ONE line
[16:51] <racquad> i've been using thunderbird for years, but I liked evolution style. so I thought I could swap. But spam is a really issue.
[16:51] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:51] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: it's not important.. don't worry about it.. also, i was thinking wrong about making those new dirs. so we will fix it real quick.. ok?
[16:51] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:51] <YaManicKill> heres the screenshot of my nautilus problem - http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3554/screenshotss8.png (btw, i managed to catch the sqaures in the middle, but thats just my desktop wall switcher)
[16:51] <gizm0> i download 8.10 desktop 130 iso..i already check the md5 its same..ok..then i reboot the cd..then i go to install ubuntu..after waiting the installer..its say to many error on my port...and its never end..i dont know
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: just to make sure we don't remove anything that we definitely don't want removed, we will remove the dirs like so...
[16:52] <Ward1983> if i use a persistent livecd, how can i update my kernel?
[16:52] <Ward1983> (its not working if i jsut try to update)
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: cd /usr/man && rmdir man4  ..tell me when you've done that, as root
[16:52] <ngirard> Hi all, I have a plain vanilla 105-key french keyboard. After migrating from 8.04 to 8.10, the "down" key generates a 116 (Multi_key) event. How can I fix this ?
[16:53] <bazhang> gizm0, okay; try to boot with the kernel parameters quiet and splash disabled then report the exact errors you get; you could also try the text based alternate cd installer disk
[16:53] <alaska> I may not be looking everywhere I can, and I may be missing something obvious, but is Rhythmbox skinnable?
[16:53] <bazhang> gizm0, is this the 32bit or the 64bit and what are your system specifications (ie how much ram, etc)
[16:53] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:53] <dmhardison> I have installed tftpd-hpa and I am trying to get inetd to execute it with: tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /var/lib/tftpdboot, and it will not start it.  I can run it in daemon mode from my terminal and it will work.  Can someone please help me.
[16:54] <gizm0> 32bits bazhang
[16:54] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: you with me?
[16:54] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Ok, tried that and said it couldn't remove man4 because it didn't exist. Went to the /usr/ dir and I see /man/ and /man4/
[16:54] <bazhang> gizm0, well try the other steps I mentioned and paste any errors to paste.ubuntu.com (NOT here) and then give us the url
[16:54] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... while in /usr     rmdir man4
[16:55] <bhuvi> will intrepid be able to run under 256mb ram
[16:55] <YaManicKill> anyone able to help with my nautilus problem? basically it doesnt respond to me ever - http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3554/screenshotss8.png its hard to explain but this is the screenshot. sometimes the sidebar is black as well.
[16:55] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Just man4 and not man?
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> yes
[16:55] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: kk
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: let's leave the man dir there
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: cd man
[16:55] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:55] <bhuvi> i'm currently strugglin with hardy cant run more than 3 apps simultaneously
[16:56] <AltinT> hello, is there any way to reset ALL the hotkeys to the way they were on default? (any hard code way, because through the system settings nothing changes)
[16:56] <ti-grrr> anyone get drbl setup in ubuntu?