[00:22] <__rob> hi
[00:22] <__rob> is xrandr --brightness actually setting the backlight brighter
[00:22] <__rob> or is this software brightness
[01:00] <budgie_desktop> hi just installed ubuntu 18.10, i'm getting extremely poor performance with my gpu (moving windows around is laggy, everything is just laggy in general) ryzen 1700, amd xfx rx 580 / nvme drive, the only thing ive thought of trying so far is to install uku to upgrade my kernel , it helped a little still pretty choppy though. (this also happened on 1
[01:00] <budgie_desktop> 8.04) wayland is worse in 18.10 so i log in x11  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5D7KZWvwyH/
[01:01] <budgie_desktop> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B2qN9rSNSh/ lspci -v
[01:29] <chovy> is there someway i can try Ubuntu 19.04 iso?
[01:30] <Bashing-om> chovy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ .
[01:30] <OerHeks> chovy, yes, and support in #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <Bashing-om> !ubuntu+1 | chovy
[01:36] <alazy> I'm confused about system python files  on ubuntu 18.04; it's come up because pulseaudio-dlna (installed via apt) is crashing at /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/zeroconf.py. It crashes with SyntaxError because this file (zeroconf version 0.21.3) is actually written with python3 syntax. More digging tells me /usr/lib/python{2.7,3}/dist-packages/zeroconf.py are IDENTICAL zeroconf.py version 0.19.1
[01:36] <alazy> written with python2 syntax. So, questions are: 1) Why might pulseaudio-dlna be looking in /usr/local; 2) why do I have a python installs at /usr/local/lib/python{2.7,3} at all; 3) How can I find out what, if anything, would miss /usr/local/lib/python2.7 if I nuked it; 4) Is it normal that both /usr/lib/python{2.7,3}/dist-packages/zeroconf.py are identical? Shouldn't the python3 version have, well, python3
[01:36] <alazy> syntax?
[01:37] <OerHeks> odd, it should use python (>= 2.7.5-5~) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic/amd64/pulseaudio-dlna/0.5.3+git20170406-1
[01:38] <OerHeks> oh that is cosmic
[01:38] <OerHeks> same https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/pulseaudio-dlna/0.5.3+git20170406-1
[01:40] <cbpye> I'm stuck in a cycle of 1) rebooting to initramfs, 2) running fsck -y on my root partition, 3) dealing with a root partition that is mounted ReadOnly because of fstab configuration, which I can't change.
[01:41] <OerHeks> !info python2.7 bionic
[01:42] <Bashing-om> cbpye: What prevents you from making the fstab file sane ?
[01:43] <cbpye> probably because I booted once after adding ro to the grub parameters.  I just undid it (after fscking again).
[01:45] <cbpye> ... or not.  Now I've got a new issue.
[01:46] <cbpye> the reboot took me to the log-in screen, and promptly locked up after I entered my password.  Mouse still responds, but if I change terminals  and change back it's solid black with a cursor.
[01:48] <cbpye> ooh, new output.  on a terminal where I've logged-in I just got [timestamp] systemd-journald[370]: Failed to write entry (X items, Y bytes), ignoring: Read-Only file system
[01:49] <Bashing-om> cbpye: Un Good .. check the disk drive health with smartctl ? - Most drives are now supported .
[01:51] <alazy> OerHeks: I think pulseaudio-dlna is trying to use py 2.7. I don't understand a) why pulseaudio-dlna looks in /usr/local/lib/python2.7 instead of in /usr/lib/python2.7; and b) why I have a /usr/local/lib/python{<IP_ADDRESS>} at all.
[01:51] <cbpye> Bashing-om: don't have smartmontools installed.  can't install because root FS is mounted RO
[01:52] <Bashing-om> cbpye: Well, how about making up a liveUSB(DVD) ? We got to have some way to look at the disk .
[01:54] <shevchuk> Hi! I'm trying to create smartd notification with zenity, as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools#Actions_in_case_of_trouble — i.e. I've created a script in `/etc/smartmontools/run.d/` which basically runs `DISPLAY=:0 zenity --warning --text="HDD problem"`, but as it is run by root, it can't connect to X server, I get this error in smartd log: `Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused`
[01:54] <shevchuk> Is there any workaround?
[01:55] <alazy> OerHeks: I mv'd /usr/local/lib/python* elsewhere. Problem solved. Nothing seems broken.
[01:55] <cbpye> Bashing-om: looking for USB now.  watch me be unable to find any of my drives.
[01:56] <Bashing-om> cbpye: solutions - the path - are sometimes a reAl pain :P
[02:04] <shevchuk> shevchuk, answering myself: needed to add XAUTHORITY=/home/username/.Xauthority
[02:04] <cbpye> Bashing-om: found a 8GB stick.
[02:05] <Bashing-om> shevchuk: :) Thanks for the sharing .
[02:09] <cbpye> Bashing-om: deferring to you: which rescue-USB image do you prefer?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> cbpye: Make up a live image of whatever versiom is installed .. If this is a desktop .. then the installer will do .
[02:34] <gambl0re> how do i create my own desktop widget?
[02:37] <gambl0re> hello?
[03:09] <ellyacht> hello. I just installed Ubuntu 18.04 on my laptop, everything went fine, stern it was done it prompted me to restart my computer with an option to click restart now. I clicked on restart now and it's not doing anything
[03:20] <Bashing-om> ellyacht: And if you reboot .. what do you then see ?
[03:24] <ellyacht> ok so it booted fine and now it's asking to unlock disk sda5_crypt. I tried both the security key I made and the login password I made and neither work
[03:25] <Bashing-om> ellyacht: The encryption key will be different than that of the password . Only you can know what you set .. and there is no way to find out what it is .
[03:27] <ellyacht> I wrote it down
[03:27] <ellyacht> I've tried three times now
[03:27] <ellyacht> it says cryptsetup: going to sleep for 60 seconds
[03:28] <Bashing-om> ellyacht: try with caps lock on and off .. maybe ??
[03:30] <ellyacht> I made it with cap locks on. but I can't tell if caps are on cause the LED indicator on tree front of my laptop isn't lit up lol :(
[03:30] <ellyacht> setup successful
[03:31] <ellyacht> just waiting now
[03:31] <ellyacht> BRB from my laptop
[03:32] <Bashing-om> ellyacht: If one could break into encryption, it would not be encryption. You will hve to figure out the key, or re-install .
[03:33] <moredrowsy> hi, i was wondering, if the cpufreq_stats module removed from the kernel? I've install cpufreq utils and when trying to run powertop, it keeps saying modprobe fail to load cpufreq_stats
[03:36] <gambl0re> hi guys, i want to create my own desktop widget. anyone know how i can do this?
[03:39] <gambl0re> hello?
[03:41] <ellyacht> Pentode: it's frozen on the 'cryptsetup (sda5_crypt): set up successfully' screen
[04:02] <CheetahPixie> Morning, folks.
[04:02] <CheetahPixie> I'm having some issues, newer kernels.
[04:03] <CheetahPixie> Apparently, there's a bug or two that bites my filesystem every now and then, and it's ext4.
[04:03] <CheetahPixie> However, I just did an fsck without rebooting.
[04:03] <CheetahPixie> And I need to save some data that can't be saved elsewhere.
[04:03] <CheetahPixie> Now, when I try to remount it as read write after checking, it just refuses.
[04:03] <Schnabeltierchen> hi guys, i´m a newby and tried to tinker myself a small script to check for some running systemd-services, but it gives me a "File name to long" error at the end, can you help me? https://nopaste.xyz/?65c8e5106e3e20a5#DHOfDDqfp1S4nzn9rHA6qQmPic+JevunCOrhCjwihjY=
[04:03] <CheetahPixie> Gives me something about it being write-protected.
[04:03] <CheetahPixie> How can I get past this write protection?
[04:04] <CheetahPixie> Schnabeltierchen: do try to print the output of each step for debugging, and you're probably gonna find the bug real quick
[04:07] <Schnabeltierchen> mhm after deleting the line which checks mattermost it gives me an "not found " at the end...
[04:08] <Schnabeltierchen> *matterbridge
[04:13] <CheetahPixie> so it's in there somewhere, probably
[04:14] <Schnabeltierchen> its somewhere in the topic line
[04:14] <Schnabeltierchen> but i can´t figure out what
[04:17] <Schnabeltierchen> ah it doesn´t like those | marks...
[04:32] <Kremator> folks, does canonical erases/removes old binaries from repos of still supported LTS releases?
[04:35] <Kremator> i do have a *buntu 16.04 but since i have pretty crappy and expensive internet, i havent done a full upgrade in like 5 months or so
[04:35] <Kremator> now im trying to install git, but apt cannot find the binaries in the repo
[04:37] <Kremator> ok nvm folks i have find out its just my "apt" binary that is borked (i have it since like 2 months ago)
[04:37] <Kremator> aptitude worked just fine
[04:40] <duoi> is it "ubuntu" as in "punto" or "bunto" ?
[04:44] <alazy> I think /etc/profile is read by all shells of all users, but is there a file within ~/ that does the same but for a single user? I want to alter $PATH whether I use sh bash zsh fish, but not for other users.
[04:50] <jonvonb> alazy: yes, look for .profile in your home directory.
[05:18] <gde33> I have a really slow disk, if I leave the computer on for 8 hours /go to work and come back it seems to have shipped all active applications to the diks, I cant even move the mouse for 3 min, it took 10 min for irc to become functional again.
[05:19] <gde33> is there anything to do to make it keep the state I left it in?
[05:20] <gde33> moving the mouse shouldn't really require disk access?
[05:21] <gde33> I'm guessing it shipped the active applications to disk since it takes very very long for things to come back alive
[05:23] <gde33> 22 min now for firefox to not unfreeze lol
[05:30] <gde33> disk is spinning like madness, its slow but not that slow, howmany GB could it be loading in 27 min?
[05:35] <gde33> lol ff is consuming 1% cpu but after 33 min it finally drew a gui
[06:00] <Elronnd> is it reasonable to install ubuntu server on a desktop, if I don't want all the cruft that comes with gnome?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | Elronnd pick one
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Elronnd: choose server if you want non-gui, if you like a lightweight GUI without gnome, perhaps choose a light flavor
[06:01] <Elronnd> I do want gui, but none of the flavours uses my wm of choice
[06:02] <Elronnd> and anyway, they probably come with a bunch of other software I don't need/want
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Elronnd: how about a mini install, and choose your likings?
[06:06] <Elronnd> ahhh neat, I hadn't seen that
[06:06] <Elronnd> thanks!
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Elronnd: 18.04 mini is pretty cool, install what you love afterwards
[06:07] <Elronnd> is there one for 18.10?
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> Elronnd: 18.10 is non-lts right, but yes there should be
[06:09] <Elronnd> yep, found it!
[06:41] <corshinenalla> vector are you there?
[06:45] <JimBuntu> Nobody by the name vector is on... there is someone really close to that name though
[06:46] <qswz> I uninstalled openjdk, can something go wrong? it seems there wre no dependent apps
[06:50] <gde33> 2 hours later the system is still not ready to be used
[07:09] <stevenm> Any reason why packages.ubuntu.com thinks it is 4 years ago?  did it travel back in time?
[07:10] <stevenm> Whilst having an identity crisis with the footer saying Copyright © 2018
[07:10] <stevenm> it only wants to tell you about packages in 14.04 :)
[07:13] <Flannel> stevenm: My packages.ubuntu.com gives me the option of trusty, xenial, bionic, cosmic, and disco.
[07:13] <Flannel> stevenm: and the footer says copyright 2013... so, are you at the same site?
[07:13] <stevenm> lol yes
[07:13] <stevenm> e.g. http://packages.ubuntu.com/wget
[07:14] <stevenm> mentions trusty/xenial/bionic/cosmis/disco at the top - but when you look at the results... wget is only in 14.04
[07:14] <stevenm> and the footer says 2018
[07:14] <stevenm> also this ...  https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 14.04, 16.04, 18.04, 18.10 | Unof
[07:14] <Flannel> stevenm: Ah.  Looks like the other databases are unhappy right now.  https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/ is an empty set.
[07:14] <stevenm> bad paste.
[07:14] <stevenm> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/wget
[07:14] <stevenm> ^ that says not available
[07:14] <stevenm> yeah
[07:15] <Flannel> stevenm: I mean, 14.04 is the best release since 6.06, so, makes sense that they're trying to encourage you to stick with it ;)
[07:15] <stevenm> I dunno I've got a 'ShipIt!' dual-cd Ubuntu cardboard sleeve in front of me... with 5.10 :P  WOO!  amd64 version!
[07:18] <stevenm> I'm actually considering install it too - or some similar version from around then... maybe a 32-bit version though
[07:19] <stevenm> for some older games released by Loki that need OSS and older libs
[07:19] <stevenm> quad boot it with OS X 10.6 (as it still has rosetta/powerpc support for those games), winxp and winme :P
[07:20] <stevenm> YES FOLKS WIN ME
[07:20] <stevenm> the OS equivalent of self harm
[07:40] <adikwok> hello seniors, please help, how can i use rsync to backup root, for restore system setting and data after clean re-install ubuntu 18.04.1 lts using lxde desktop? thx.
[07:41] <adikwok> i had did rsync -aAXv / /mnt [where my ext-hdd mounted] .. but i can not rsync back from ext-hdd to /
[07:43] <vlt> adikwok: Why the clean re-install if you want to overwrite it with the old stuff?
[07:44] <adikwok> i tried to cd /mnt
[07:44] <adikwok> cp xorg.config.new xorg.conf.new.bak
[07:44] <adikwok> which made new file in my mounted ext-hdd
[07:44] <adikwok> but when i tried to rsync from /mnt to /  .. no new xorg.conf.new.bak added to /
[07:45] <adikwok> vlt: im trying to had a backup, and if something goes wrong, i can re-install from usb live without having to set up, firefox, preload, zram, udev, n others, since i forgot what i did to my system, until it reached present condition
[07:47] <vlt> adikwok: So rather _restore_, not _re-install_, right?
[07:48] <adikwok> vlt: yes, or no? .. im confused also, how to have a restore, without re-install
[07:48] <vlt> adikwok: If something goes wrong™ you want to boot from live media and rsync everything back.
[07:49] <adikwok> vlt: now, my gnome setting not working, i am in lxde desktop.
[07:49] <adikwok> startx not working,
[07:49] <adikwok> monitor brightness can not setting from keyboard like i could when i used gnome-desktop
[07:50] <vlt> adikwok: Did you boot from live media?
[07:50] <adikwok> vlt: now im boot from hdd
[07:51] <adikwok> vlt: If something goes wrong™ you want to boot from live media and rsync everything back.
[07:51] <adikwok> ~ yes. like this.
[07:52] <adikwok> vlt: i am amazed with ubuntu 18.04.1 lts using lxde desktop, although the graphic is vintage, but the speed is awesome, faster than when i used windows 7 with readyboost 32 gb.
[07:53] <vlt> adikwok: So it seems like something went wrong: You tried to rsync to the running "/".  Now do exactly what you made your backup for: boot from live media and rsync everything back.
[07:53] <adikwok> vlt: my laptop is, acer 4315, intel celeron 1,73ghz, hdd 80gb. no vga card.[i guess]
[07:56] <adikwok> vlt: so, i just boot and install ubuntu 18.04.1 lts from live usb, for having a fresh re-install.
[07:56] <adikwok> and then mount my sdb to /mnt
[07:56] <adikwok> rsync from /mnt to /
[07:56] <adikwok> so i can have all setting back to previous backup conditions?
[07:57] <vlt> adikwok: No, without the re-install part.
[07:58] <vlt> adikwok: Boot from live media, mount root partition somewhere (other than /) and your backup and rsync.
[08:00] <adikwok> vlt: boot from live media.
[08:00] <adikwok> mount root partition.[other than /]
[08:02] <adikwok> vlt: im confused. dont have a picture of it, since now im not in live media, im still running installed ubuntu lxde from hdd.
[08:04] <vlt> adikwok: Boot from live media, mount root partition to /mnt/target and your backup to /mnt/source. Then do something like `rsync -aviP --delete /mnt/source/ /mnt/target/`.
[08:04] <adikwok> vlt: can i do try in more simple step? i made new file in /mnt .. but when i rsync back from /mnt /   .it did not appear new file i added in root at my /mnt
[08:04]  * vlt is back at 08:30
[08:30] <pagios> hello, i am looking at testing some OTT solutions on which i can add my own content and monetize, do you recommend any OTT project that would be stable enough to use as a building block in my project? Thank you
[08:31] <JimBuntu> OTT as in Over the top?
[08:31] <pagios> yea
[08:38] <dro> Hello! I'm planning to upgrade from Ubuntu 16.04 to Ubuntu 18.04 , wondering if this will work good or it will make my system slow ? Does it worth better to make a fresh install or there is no difference ?
[08:44] <vlt> adikwok: Did you manage to rsync in the live boot environment?
[08:45] <adikwok> vlt: i can not do live boot now, since in the middle of working. some files open and need to be done for my work
[08:47] <adikwok> yet i can test how to rsync back from /mnt to /mnt .. would you like to see files in my /mnt and / ? maybe i can describe better for what situation i am facing and what i am searching to be able to do
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> dro: in most cases, a clean install is the cleanest/fastest
[08:50] <vlt> adikwok: Just do the three steps once you're ready: boot, mount, rsync
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> dro: but alot of LTS upgrades working like a charm too, depends on how good you maintained your system yourself
[08:51] <adikwok> vlt: Just do the three steps once you're ready: boot, mount, rsync
[08:51] <adikwok>  ~ i will try this.
[08:52] <dro> lotuspsychje: I see, i'm into a fresh install too.. Sometimes upgrade don't do things as excepted
[08:52] <dro> But maybe upgrade process is better now?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> dro: upgrade process has always been trustable, but like i said, alot depends of how the system was maintained before...also a backup is a good idea
[08:57] <ducasse> dro: upgrades are usually fine, as long as you purge any ppas first
[09:44] <afx_> Hello! I would like to use my kepads Ins(0) as a shortcut . However when I assing "Ins" as my keyboard shortcut I am no longer able to use the 0 button with NumLock enabled
[09:44] <afx_> Is there a workaround?
[09:45] <Repox> Hey guys. I'm running a strings command on an executable, but the executable contains some strings with unicode characters and I'm guessing it's an emoji. Is it possible for me to ensure that my terminal will show the correct character instead of just line breaking?
[10:03] <neure> hi
[10:03] <neure> i am about to install 18.04 on laptop with both intel and nvidia gpu
[10:03] <neure> can i somehow during install tell it not to use nvidia gpu?
[10:04] <neure> just disable it full stop
[10:05] <blackflow> neure: you could "blacklist nouveau" in /etc/modprobe.d/<somefilename>   but if you select intel as primary gpu in bios, then that would be autodetected and used by default
[10:06] <neure> ah, right, bios
[10:15] <corshinenalla> @Fuchs hey man
[10:24] <corshinenalla> hi @Fuchs
[10:38] <Orbstheorem> Is it me of the web interface to explore software packages is broken? https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/allpackages
[10:44] <tarzeau> Orbstheorem: true, same for me
[10:45] <tarzeau> https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/ likewise the virtual link is broken too
[10:57] <TJ-> Orbstheorem: tarzeau the sysadmins have been made aware
[11:00] <__rob> is it possible to have xrandr commands run before I log in?
[11:01] <__rob> I have a script linked into /etc/x11/xsession.d that changes the resolution and the padding
[11:01] <__rob> or the scale and padding
[11:01] <__rob> but that only runs once I've logged in
[11:06] <TJ-> __rob: yes, it is, let me try and dig up how I did it
[11:13] <__rob> thanks
[11:17] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:48] <ricardofantin> Hello. I upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 recently. I installed libopencv-dev, but it is linked against libpng12 instead of libpng16. Any idea how to solve this?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> ricardofantin: can you pastebin whats going on in apt please
[12:16] <ricardofantin> lotuspsychje: thank you for your time. I'm compiling yolo and in the linker phase it links against /usr/local/lib/libopencv_videoio.so. the ldd comand :  https://pastebin.com/d2rbAgcR . In dpkg-query --search the lib is in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopencv_videoio.so.3.2 .
[12:20] <ricardofantin> lotuspsychje: I'm using a computer that had the ROS repository before the upgrade, maybe there is a residual configuration somewhere that makes somethings don't work. One of my problems is using the import cv2 in python.
[12:23] <me1t> Hello friends. I am having trouble getting XRDP to work. I have taken all system and log outputs and pasted them here. It just exits with exit code, although X is up, and I can connect VNC with no problems: https://bpaste.net/show/ad0e159b7abb Thanks in advance!
[12:24] <me1t> I note, it worked previously, but i'm not sure what changed.
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> ricardofantin: sorry, compiling is not my cheese :p
[12:26] <ajnr>  Hi, I need help , I am new in ubuntu - I have installed my ubuntu system in HP omen system which has 120 GB NVME SSD + 1 TB HDD and 1070 GEFORCE NVIDIA Graphics card, after booting I have to manually mount the 1TB HDD. Is there any solution to install /home in HDD and /root in NVME SSD
[12:28] <me1t> hello ajnr i just googled "move home ubuntu" and got some guide. https://askubuntu.com/questions/77728/can-i-change-the-home-folder-after-ubuntu-installation and here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving  can you have a look at these
[12:30] <ajnr> melt, lsblk
[12:30] <ajnr> NAME        MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
[12:30] <ajnr> sda           8:0    0 931.5G  0 disk
[12:30] <ajnr> ├─sda1        8:1    0 917.8G  0 part /media/anupam/DATA
[12:30] <ajnr> └─sda2        8:2    0  13.8G  0 part
[12:30] <ajnr> nvme0n1     259:0    0 119.2G  0 disk
[12:31] <me1t> You must use a pastebin to paste output here - also, please read the guides given
[12:31] <BadPractice> hi, where do i get the ubuntu image for mac?
[12:31] <me1t> BadPractice: a mac is just a more expensive intel pc. it probably uses the same installation process.
[12:33] <BadPractice> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop tells there is a mac image. However it does not say where i would find this mac image...
[12:34] <me1t> ok i just did a quick search and it returned some how-to videos, can you have a look? https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+install+ubuntu+on+mac
[12:34] <RougeR> heya, does anyone know how to disable focus stealing in ubuntu 18.04 with gnome 3
[12:34] <RougeR> because its stupid and dangerous behavior and almost resulted in a data breach today
[12:35] <coz_> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences focus-new-windows 'strict'
[12:35] <BadPractice> i dont want how to videos. I want the download link for the actual mac image
[12:35] <RougeR> what
[12:35] <RougeR> mac image...
[12:35] <RougeR> its the same as any other 64bit image surely
[12:36] <me1t> i believe you will find that there is no special image - as it's just a pc with a $1000 case :P
[12:36] <RougeR> coz_, ill have a look
[12:36] <BadPractice> Most Macs with Intel processors will work with either 64-bit or Mac images. If the 64-bit image doesn't work, try the Mac image.
[12:36] <BadPractice> copied from https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[12:36] <BadPractice> where can i find the mac image?
[12:36] <me1t> I believe they are referring to old macs (powerpc processor)
[12:36] <RougeR> have you tried the 64bit image
[12:36] <coz_> RougeR,  that would be a terminal command
[12:37] <coz_> RougeR, let me know if it works
[12:37] <BadPractice> no i thought its better to use a image that works in 100% percent in the cases instead of one that works in 70% of the cases
[12:37] <me1t> BadPractice: Here are all the images. The "Mac Image" is for POWERPC processors, not modern intel macs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04/release/
[12:38] <me1t> Just try the standard image and it most likely will work.
[12:38] <me1t> Do not kill yourself looking for a solution to a problem you do not have :)
[12:38] <BadPractice> ok ill try the standard one first thx
[12:38] <me1t> Thank you
[12:39] <RougeR> coz_,
[12:39] <RougeR> yeah that doesnt work
[12:39] <me1t> Now, can anyone have a look at my XRDP problem above?
[12:39] <coz_> damn
[12:39] <RougeR> it still steals it
[12:39] <RougeR> :(
[12:39] <RougeR> i tried some similar commands i found on stack overflow
[12:39] <RougeR> thanks for trying though
[12:39] <RougeR> yeah. so if i
[12:39] <coz_> RougeR, let me rumage through a few things , hold on
[12:40] <me1t> this is pretty old, RougeR give it a try perhaps, https://edmondscommerce.github.io/ubuntu/ubuntu-prevent-focus-stealing.html
[12:40] <RougeR> >start slack >go to terminal >type in terminal >slack boots >slack takes keyboard and mouse focus and types in a random channel what was meant to be inputted in the terminal
[12:40] <RougeR> great design.
[12:40] <RougeR> ty me
[12:40] <RougeR> melt
[12:41] <me1t> hmmmmm
[12:41] <me1t> yeah i see how that can be funky
[12:42] <RougeR> yeah i just posted a terminal command to slack to a customer facing channel
[12:42] <RougeR> because thats what channel i was last using when i exited slack
[12:43] <me1t> Can't you delete it?
[12:43] <RougeR> i did
[12:43] <me1t> in discord you can
[12:43] <RougeR> i didnt even see it
[12:43] <me1t> eh
[12:43] <coz_> RougeR, might not be what you want   https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1236/noannoyance/
[12:43] <RougeR> my colleauge  was like why did you post half a command to the customer channel
[12:43] <me1t> Yeah i type without looking a lot
[12:43] <me1t> oof.
[12:43] <RougeR> yeah, you can see why its bad
[12:43] <RougeR> coz_, ill have a look
[12:43] <me1t> yeah i'm in a lot of customer-facing channels
[12:44] <RougeR> it sounds like the opposite of what i want lol coz_
[12:44] <coz_> RougeR, even in dconf editor, some say good luck on gnome3 with the issue
[12:44] <RougeR> i want  a windows is ready notification. that is exactly what i want
[12:44] <RougeR> what i dont want is focus stealing
[12:44] <coz_> understood
[12:44] <RougeR> its okay :)
[12:45] <coz_> RougeR, couldnt find anything worth while on the topic, not surprisong with gnome3
[12:45] <RougeR> yeah, gnome3 doesnt seem to be the best for dev support from what ive read
[12:45] <RougeR> well
[12:45] <RougeR> user support/feature requests
[12:45] <coz_> nope
[12:45] <RougeR> i do like it still, suprisingly
[12:46] <coz_> RougeR,  I switched to mate
[12:46] <RougeR> theres some bits i need to tweak, but overall its not bad
[12:46] <RougeR> coz_, yeah i use mate when im booted into mint
[12:46] <RougeR> alright, ill leave it for today. guna go do some work. thanks for your time
[12:46] <coz_> RougeR, more familiar with all the bits and options gnome3 took out
[12:46] <RougeR> eh yeh
[12:47] <coz_> RougeR, good luck
[12:47] <RougeR> ty :)
[12:47] <RougeR> trying to get this task-scheduling engine to work. all our servers run buntu as well.
[12:47] <coz_> RougeR, not appropriate here, but  maybe fedora
[12:48] <RougeR> mmm coz_ the reason i use ubuntu is for the support tbh
[12:48] <coz_> RougeR, easy going on that
[12:48] <RougeR> i use a fair bit of bespoke/niche software. only has official support for ubunutu
[12:48] <me1t> same
[12:48] <coz_> RougeR, understood, but no less with fedora
[12:48] <RougeR> so i i use another distro, it becomes a ball ache to get support
[12:49] <coz_> depemds on what needs to be done eficiently
[12:49] <RougeR> i mostly work with a lot of video/subs/audio manipulation software. which supports windows/ubuntu officially
[12:50] <coz_> ok
[12:50] <RougeR> yeaaaaa
[12:50] <RougeR> right brb
[12:54] <piesquared> How do i automaticly run a command when the system reboots?
[12:55] <coz_> what is the command?
[12:55] <piesquared> python3
[12:55] <piesquared> its to run an irc bot.
[12:56] <coz_> mmm let me check
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> piesquared: you know limnoria, its a nice irc bot
[12:56] <piesquared> I made my own.
[12:57] <coz_> piesquared, i wonder if that could be put into startup apps
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> ah cool then
[12:58] <tarzeau> piesquared: cron has (crontab -e) called @reboot
[12:59] <piesquared> how does that work?
[12:59] <piesquared> command?
[13:00] <tarzeau> man 5 crontab
[13:00] <tarzeau> i'm not sure if it also works for users, and not just root user, but if it's an irc bot and binds to a port < 1025 it must be run as root anyway
[13:01] <piesquared> i never *had* to run it in root.
[13:01] <tarzeau> i have no idea then, sorry
[13:03] <TJ-> piesquared: set up a systemd unit in /etc/systemd/system/ to start it
[13:09] <piesquared> so, what exactly do i make in that folder TJ-?
[13:09] <piesquared> (fail)
[13:09] <ramsub07> Hi, I am trying to mount a particular drive on to my system from an IP address. I created a directory on the local system whose owner is the root, and that's where i plan to mount the drive. After mounting, the owner of that particular directory becomes the user, who was owning the drive on the remote system. How do I mount keeping root as the owner of the mounted drive?
[13:13] <me1t> ramsub07: sounds like you are trying to setup an NFS mount
[13:13] <ramsub07> me1t: exactly :)
[13:13] <me1t> You would mount using /etc/fstab or sudo to make root the owner i believe
[13:13] <me1t> ah nope
[13:14] <TJ-> piesquared: I've not tested this but something like https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TkHRcwT5xZ/
[13:14] <me1t> drwxr-xr-x 7 nobody nogroup 68 Nov 20 13:14 nfs
[13:14] <me1t> thats how mine is
[13:14] <ramsub07> me1t: tried with sudo, doesn't work that way
[13:14] <me1t> i'm reading here https://serverfault.com/questions/240897/how-to-properly-set-permissions-for-nfs-folder-permission-denied-on-mounting-en
[13:14] <me1t> seems like you set the perms on the server only
[13:20] <Younder> I have the thew 4.10 drivers from NVIDIA and I am having trouble finding the 32 bit libraries I need for Steam. How do I get them?
[13:20] <Younder> new
[13:21] <ramsub07> me1t: you mean in the fstab file in the server?
[13:22] <hateball> Younder: how did you install Steam? if you install from the ubuntu repos it should pull in the needed deps
[13:23] <Younder> hateball, erm it did. Then I installed CUDA and it stopped working.
[13:24] <me1t> ramsub07: nah, scratch that, i think it's the nfs config or file perms on the server though. i am not sure, i am a little noobish on the nfs
[13:24] <me1t> mine seems to be wide open on my lan
[13:29] <Younder> hateball, The problem is the nvidia repo dosn't seem to have the 32 bit opengl lib files.
[13:29] <Younder> It should work with a 64 bit driver I believe.
[13:30] <me1t> i seem to have much better luck installing nvidia via the debs
[13:31] <Younder> Well it is a .deb file just not the one you get from 'ubuntu-drivers autoinstall'
[13:37] <Younder> For the recor NVIDIA's drivers are not open-source, they are free, but without the source-code. There is a free open-source called noveaux, but that has inferior performance in games. So there is a chant 'ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' which is simple to do, but unlike installing it by default it doesn't offend the open-source purists.
[13:38] <hateball> Younder: I havent dabbled with cuda so I can't say
[13:39] <hateball> Younder: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/5778
[14:10] <talx> hello guys
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> welcome talx
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> what can we do for you today?
[14:11] <talx> if I downloaded an iso of ubuntu desktop 16.04 where would the filesystem squashfs would be
[14:11] <talx> I need it for a pxe installation
[14:12] <talx> how come installing ubuntu-server is so easy and the desktop version is so hard
[14:12] <Mathisen> hard ?
[14:12] <Mathisen> click click done...
[14:12] <leftyfb> talx: can you please be more specific?
[14:12] <talx> what do you mean
[14:12] <leftyfb> talx: exactly
[14:13] <talx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/PXE-netboot-install
[14:13] <talx> if you go to stage two
[14:13] <talx> it says: On releases after 14.04; add "live-installer/net-image=$PATH_TO_FILESYSTEM_SQUASHFS" before the three dashes to provide a root filesystem for the installer to use as a base for the install; or use "live-installer/enable=false".
[14:13] <talx> where is the path for filesystem squashfs
[14:14] <talx> can it be a link ?
[14:15] <talx> I mean how would you write it if it was via a webpage?
[14:15] <leftyfb> talx: did you try looking on the cd?
[14:16] <talx> I have the cd
[14:16] <TJ-> talx: /casper/squashfs.filesystem
[14:16] <leftyfb> TJ-: that's not the server cd
[14:16] <talx> ty
[14:16] <talx> it helped me actually
[14:17] <leftyfb> talx: ok, you have the cd. Did you look on the cd?
[14:17] <talx> live-installer/net-image=http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubun/casper/filesystem.squashfs
[14:17] <talx> whould this work ?
[14:17] <leftyfb> no
[14:17] <leftyfb> talx: because that is not a valid location on the cd
[14:17] <talx> what do you mean
[14:17] <talx> I've extracted the ISO file
[14:17] <leftyfb> look on the cd to find the squash filesystem cd
[14:18] <talx> to /var/www/html/folder
[14:18] <leftyfb> talx: we're talking about the server cd, not desktop correct?
[14:18] <talx> nope
[14:18] <talx> desktop cd
[14:18] <leftyfb> oh
[14:18] <talx> I've managed to make an install of ubuntu server
[14:18] <talx> that is but the desktop is giving me a hard time
[14:19] <leftyfb> then yes, that is the correct location
[14:19] <talx> yeah but the syntax
[14:19] <talx> did I write it correctly ?
[14:19] <leftyfb> talx: but to be honest, it sounds like you really don't know what you're doing here. You really should be reading and understanding more about pxe and live cd's (squash)
[14:19] <TJ-> leftyfb: "/casper/filesystem.squashfs" is also on the -server ISO
[14:20] <talx> I've read
[14:20] <talx> not everything is clear
[14:20] <leftyfb> TJ-: not for 16.04. There's no live environment. Only on 18.04
[14:20] <talx> I like to talk to people more and learn from exprience
[14:21] <TJ-> oh, this is for 16.04 is it?
[14:24] <talx> yes
[14:24] <talx> it fails again
[14:24] <talx> it just don't know where to get the files from
[14:24] <nwe> good afternoon, does someone in here use libnss-pgsql? I have setup it and I can get users information when I running getent passwd/group/shadow but when I running command id <user> I got no such user.
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> talx: whats your end goal exactly? customize ubuntu iso?
[14:30] <talx> hmm
[14:30] <talx> make an installation of ubuntu 16.04-desktop using pxe
[14:31] <talx> I'm getting the installation menue but it fails on "Download installer component"
[14:32] <tchakatak> talx which app ?
[14:35] <tchakatak> one question, i am using pass as a keyring, i would like to integrate it with differents programs such as qutebrowser /git / nextcloud... can he do that ? have trouble found my answer on google.
[14:39] <crmlt> Hello
[14:40] <crmlt> I'm unable to boot into runlevel 3 (multi-user.target).
[14:40] <crmlt> Tty never show up.
[14:41] <crmlt> What could be wrong?
[14:41] <tchakatak> crmlt: did you update your kernel ?
[14:41] <crmlt> Boot into graphical.target does work good.
[14:41] <crmlt> tchakatak: yes few weeks ago
[14:41] <tchakatak> you can try to reboot into rescue mode, or on another kernel
[14:41] <crmlt> now i'm on 4.15.0-39-generic
[14:41] <crmlt> rescue mode does work
[14:42] <tchakatak> Did you make any update ?
[14:42] <tchakatak> or anychanges since and reboot ?
[14:42] <crmlt> Well yes i'm not sure what it could caused
[14:42] <crmlt> I install all updates usually
[14:43] <crmlt> I'm so curious it doesn't work
[14:43] <tchakatak> what you can do is taking a look at /var/log/apt
[14:43] <tchakatak> about what you did install
[14:43] <tchakatak> also boot into rescue mode and do a journalctl -xe
[14:43] <tchakatak> you will have access to systemd journal
[14:43] <tchakatak> you can also do a systemctl --user status
[14:44] <crmlt> There are hundres of packages now
[14:44] <crmlt> It's impossible  to track it
[14:45] <tchakatak> well try to boot to another kernel first
[14:45] <tchakatak> could be an incompatibility with the latest lts kernel
[14:45] <crmlt> Incompatibility?
[14:46] <talx> could you load an older boot
[14:46] <talx> ?
[14:46] <talx> I mean what tchakatak said
[14:46] <leftyfb> talx: use nfs, not http
[14:46] <tchakatak> not compatible with your hardware
[14:46] <crmlt> tchakatak: No
[14:46] <talx> hmm
[14:46] <crmlt> As I said
[14:46] <tchakatak> crmlt: No ?
[14:47] <crmlt> I'm able to boot into graphical.target
[14:47] <crmlt> but no into multi-user.target
[14:47] <leftyfb> talx: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/RX5kRTsYnf/
[14:47] <crmlt> tty just doesn't start within multi-user.target
[14:48] <crmlt> login prompt will never show up
[14:48] <talx> leftyfb: that is for desktop ?
[14:48] <leftyfb> talx: correct
[14:48] <crmlt> and I only updated from 4.15-36 to 4.15-39
[14:48] <tchakatak> crmlt: multi-user target is a ring 2... your computer will not even start.
[14:49] <leftyfb> talx: of course change the paths to reflect your tree and the ip address of your nfs server
[14:49] <crmlt> tchakatak: its runlevel 3
[14:49] <crmlt> should boot into tty1
[14:49] <talx> do I need to put the path in /etc/exportfs
[14:49] <talx> ?
[14:49] <talx> do I need to put the path in /etc/export
[14:49] <crmlt> tchakatak: it was working i was using it
[14:50] <leftyfb> talx: that's how nfs works, yes
[14:50] <talx> heh
[14:50] <talx> ty :P
[14:50] <talx> thanks alot I hope it will work
[14:50] <tchakatak> crmlt: multi-user.target is also a ring2-4 equiv as the documentation said
[14:52] <crmlt> Yes
[14:52] <crmlt> you could boot with kernel parameter 3 or systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[14:52] <crmlt> and you will end on tty1
[14:52] <crmlt> but it stopped working on my machine
[14:52] <crmlt> now
[14:53] <tchakatak> crmlt: you can try a systemctl isolate
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> tchakatak: could this help you? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032137/nextcloud-client-complains-about-missing-keychain-at-startup
[14:55] <tchakatak> lotuspsychje: I take a look
[14:56] <crmlt> tchakatak:  that just changes the target for next boot
[14:56] <crmlt> it doesn't matter how i start it
[14:56] <crmlt> systemctl set-default multi-user.target, systemctl isolate, 3, systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[14:57] <tchakatak> and what say the journal ?
[14:58] <tchakatak> lotuspsychje: not really my type of error
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> tchakatak: or is it more a password manager you seek?
[14:58] <SimAloo> anyone running VPN that broke after yesterdays updates?
[14:59] <tchakatak> i use pass to store my password (running i3wm)
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> ah i see
[14:59] <crmlt> theres nothing interessting
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> SimAloo: we havent noticed other users on that recently
[15:00] <tchakatak> lotuspsychje: what i would like to do is use this keyring to interact with git and other things
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> SimAloo: can you trace your dpkg logs what updates installed, to see whats relevant for network/vpn?
[15:02] <crmlt> going to try something
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> tchakatak: just an idea, but cant you use like gnome-keyring in i3?
[15:03] <tchakatak> lotuspsychje: i could, but just waaaaaaaay too much things installed for that
[15:04] <tchakatak> i would like to stay minimalist
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> yeah i understand
[15:04] <tchakatak> avoid unwanted dependencies, especially gnome keyring depend to so many things.
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> tchakatak: cant find much usefull on pass & i3 neither
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> tchakatak: ah, looks like there's a #pass channel
[15:06] <ducasse> tchakatak: iirc someone had scripts to use rofi as a frontend to pass under i3, ask in #i3 or #rofi
[15:06] <tchakatak> ok :) i take a look at it :) thanks
[15:06] <ducasse> tchakatak: or search github, i think it was called rofi-pass
[15:08] <tchakatak> ducasse: thanks, i will take a look
[15:10] <crmlt> Hm
[15:10] <crmlt> it does work with 4.15.0-38
[15:10] <crmlt> but not with 4.15.0-39
[15:10] <crmlt> linux
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> !bug | crmlt if you find one
[15:11] <tchakatak> crmlt: i told you...
[15:11] <crmlt> tchakatak: but this seems like a bug
[15:12] <tchakatak> thats what i told you
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> crmlt: create one please, help yourself and the community
[15:12] <crmlt> lotuspsychje: i wish I have tim to report every bug i found ...
[15:12] <crmlt> time*
[15:13] <me1t> you have time to come here and ask for our help though
[15:13] <me1t> and we have time to answer
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> crmlt: it take 5min of your time, ubuntu-bug linux
[15:13] <crmlt> i report every day
[15:13] <crmlt> i'm frustrated
[15:13] <crmlt> but ill do it
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> thank you
[15:13] <crmlt> because i still like this piece of software...
[15:15] <crmlt> brb
[15:19] <crmlt> Is there higher build than 4.15.0-39 available ?
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | crmlt yes
[15:19] <tchakatak> crml ukuu
[15:20] <crmlt> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[15:20] <crmlt> theres only 4.15.18
[15:20] <TJ-> crmlt: you can install the 18.10 kernel using the linux-image-hwe-18.04-edge package
[15:21] <crmlt> Is 4.15.1  higher than 4.15.0-38
[15:21] <crmlt> ?
[15:21] <TJ-> crmlt: oh, here: "linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04/bionic-proposed <IP_ADDRESS>.62 amd64 "
[15:24] <crmlt> TJ-: I know thx
[15:24] <crmlt> TJ-:  I just wonder if its fixed in higher build...
[15:25] <crmlt> eg. 4.15.0-40
[15:26] <Mylon> I joined #ktorrent... Channel exists, but I'm the only one there.
[15:27] <theCorvus> probably you just created the channel
[15:30] <crmlt> TJ-: which repo?
[15:31] <nickNolte> so, in apt depends, what is the meaning of the pipe?
[15:31] <TJ-> !info linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 bionic | crmlt
[15:31] <TJ-> crmlt: ahh, it's still in bionic-proposed and ubottu doesn't know about -proposed
[15:31] <crmlt> yep
[15:32] <TJ-> !proposed
[15:32] <Mylon> Anyone know any good disk recovery tools?  I photorec says it found a sun partition on my memory card (was in an android phone), but it doesn't support fixing the partition table.
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> Mylon: try to recover the data from it with photorec, then format it with gparted
[15:34] <Mylon> Photorec says there's nothing recovered.  But testdisk (packaged with photorec) finds a partition.
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> Mylon: did you scan whole partition with photorec?
[15:34] <SimAloo> I will go through my logs and see if I can find something, it's not vpn specifically it's 3rd party vpn client
[15:34] <SimAloo> if need be I'll revert back to tools I created for auto connect using ipsec
[15:34] <Mylon> As far as I know.  The partition isn't properly registered.
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> Mylon: try to do a full scan on that memory card
[15:37] <Mylon> I wouldn't bother formatting it though.
[15:37] <Mylon> Wouldn't trust the memory card to keep my data.
[15:40] <nickNolte> anyone here knowledgeable in respect to the apt depends command and its output?
[15:43] <murthy> will opencv library be updated to v4 in 18.10?
[15:46] <teward> murthy: probably not, unless Debian gets OpenCV version 4 packaged
[15:46] <murthy> ah
[15:47] <murthy> then I have to compile
[15:47] <murthy> teward: thanks
[15:47] <teward> murthy: that'd be the quickest way to get your updated versions
[15:47] <teward> murthy: also keep in mind since 18.10 is already released the likelihood that they'd version bump the library that majorly is very VERY low
[15:47] <murthy> ya thats right
[15:49] <hggdh> murthy: OTOH, if you see anything going wrong on V4, it would be nice to know. Perhaps emailing debian-devel, or ubuntu-devel with what happened
[15:49] <murthy> teward: I have already compiled and using v3.4.3 now, I thought I would be great If v4 was in the repos, I would simply use the my app with out distributing the opencv deps
[15:49] <teward> hggdh: neither Debian or Ubuntu ahve v4
[15:49] <murthy> hggdh: sure
[15:49] <teward> not even in new
[15:50] <teward> hggdh: 3.4.4 is the latest in Debian, and that's in the new queue; 3.2.0 is in unstable, 3.3.0 is in experimental, so I don't even see v4 in use anywhere.
[15:50] <teward> :P
[15:50] <hggdh> teward: yes, I realise that. But issues with V4 would be interesting to know
[15:51] <teward> indeed.
[15:52] <hggdh> murthy: also, of course, letting upstream know :-)
[15:52] <ioria> well,has been published 2 days ago
[15:54] <murthy> hggdh: sure
[16:01] <Cheez> hmm, so i just upgraded a box to 18.04, and of course that means the new coreutils, and the AWFUL quoted ls crap. i know i can add an env var or create an alias, but i seem to have fixed it without doing that elsewhere, and i cannot for the life of me remember HOW i did it, in a way that works for all users on the box
[16:02] <Cheez> any idea what i might have done?
[16:08] <lordcirth> Cheez, I believe "export QUOTING_STYLE=literal" is the best way
[16:08] <Cheez> yeah i just dont seem to have done that elsewhere
[16:08] <lordcirth> Not that I've had any problem with the new ls
[16:12] <Cheez> it breaks my brain
[16:12] <neurrre> what does this look like: https://www.paste.org/96172
[16:12] <neurrre> I was trying to format USB stick with nautilus and the drive never showed up..
[16:12] <Cheez> 'mr goodman\\\\'''''\'\'\'''\'\''s files'
[16:13] <Cheez> that's how my brain sees it, regardless of how few escapes it actually is
[16:14] <neurrre> so it did show up eventually
[16:14] <lordcirth> neurrre, unrecovered read error?  Unless you unplugged it partway through, sounds like it might be failing
[16:14] <neurrre> i havent touched it
[16:14] <neurrre> it is still plugged in
[16:14] <neurrre> and the drive now shows up in nautilus
[16:14] <neurrre> how can check if it is healthy?
[16:15] <lordcirth> neurrre, make a blob (~1GB) of random data.  sha256 it.  In another terminal, watch dmesg -w.  copy it over, sync, and sha256 the copy.
[16:15] <lordcirth> It's a bit hacky but might work
[16:17] <neurrre> googling tells me there is badblocks
[16:17] <neurrre> running it now..
[16:17] <lordcirth> Oh right
[16:17] <lordcirth> That's a better idea :P
[16:17] <neurrre> which brings more citical medium error messages to dmesg
[16:17] <neurrre> badblocks itself hasnt output anything yet :/
[16:18] <neurrre> why, why, do usb flash drives fail so fast
[16:18] <neurrre> ...
[16:18] <lordcirth> because they are cheap
[16:18] <lordcirth> And most users don't write to them a lot
[16:18] <neurrre> is there external enclosures for m.2 drives?
[16:19] <neurrre> neither do i
[16:19] <lordcirth> There probably are
[16:22] <neurrre> given I have spare 500GB m.2 SSD, would be a good idea to have that as USB stick :P
[16:23] <neurrre> sudo badblocks reported huge amount of bad blocks :(
[16:23] <neurrre> I guess this drive is ded
[16:23] <neurrre> geez, 64GB byebye
[16:25] <za1bi1tsu> Hello I've installed Hexchat through snap, but I don't have any tray settings in Preferences -> Alert
[16:26] <NerdTheThird> go thank gnome devs for that
[16:26] <NerdTheThird> lul
[16:26] <za1bi1tsu> damn
[16:27] <za1bi1tsu> should I install though apt then
[16:27] <za1bi1tsu> on apt it has tray plugin right?
[16:27] <NerdTheThird> it doesnt matter, man. you won;t have it anyways. hence the "go thank gnome devs for that"
[16:28] <za1bi1tsu> I don't understand. This is because of the DE?
[16:28] <NerdTheThird> i had to add a line in some config file to get steam systray
[16:28] <NerdTheThird> yes
[16:28] <NerdTheThird> because of GNOME
[16:28] <NerdTheThird> even you install addon for systray icons, hexchat still won't appear
[16:28] <NerdTheThird> welcome to gnome in 2018
[16:30] <za1bi1tsu> do you remember what you did to enable it?
[16:30] <za1bi1tsu> I can find any infi?
[16:31] <za1bi1tsu> *info
[16:31] <za1bi1tsu> *cant
[16:31] <NerdTheThird> for steam?
[16:31] <za1bi1tsu> oh
[16:31] <za1bi1tsu> so it's unfixable?
[16:32] <NerdTheThird> pretty much. i might be wrong but i haven't found any solution
[16:32] <NerdTheThird> well, you can install some of the flavours i guess
[16:33] <za1bi1tsu> but why? Do the gnome devs plan to eliminate tray applications or what?
[16:33] <NerdTheThird> they already did, dude
[16:33] <NerdTheThird> you need addon for systray icons
[16:33] <za1bi1tsu> BUT WHYY???
[16:33] <NerdTheThird> because gnome?
[16:33] <za1bi1tsu> I actually liked gnome :(, my first DE
[16:34] <za1bi1tsu> but wait, how come Slack works
[16:34] <za1bi1tsu> I have slack on tray
[16:35] <NerdTheThird> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/244
[16:35] <NerdTheThird> "In any case, what I'm interested to hear is about problems, goals and use cases, not discussing actual solutions"
[16:35] <NerdTheThird> one of the gnome devs wrote that
[16:35] <NerdTheThird> i think that tells you everything
[16:45] <Pcost8300> hello Everyone and good afternoon, I would like to know if changing an Ubuntu Server 14.04 Time to just one hour up could cause any trouble with databases or the glassfish server that is running in there.
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> Pcost8300: come join to #ubuntu-server please
[16:46] <compdoc> should be able to change the time
[16:46] <Pcost8300> thank you lotuspychje
[16:46] <Pcost8300> :compdoc im am but i dont know if it could cause any trouble
[16:47] <compdoc> in the US, we change the time forward and backward one hour, twice a year
[16:48] <lordcirth> compdoc, that's user-displayed time, the unix time under the hood doesn't change
[16:48] <TJ-> Pcost8300: did you change the hardware time, or just the locale timezone?
[16:48] <TJ-> Pcost8300: if you changed the hw/system time then you could cause upsets with timestamped entities
[16:52] <Pcost8300> TJ-: mm im planning to change it through the command date +%T -s
[16:52] <TJ-> Pcost8300: there are recommendations related to NTP time sync drift where it should be done whilst glassfish is stopped
[16:55] <Pcost8300> TJ-: So then thats the way i should work, with all domains stopped update the date and then turn on them again
[17:00] <tchakatak> NerdTheThird: thats why i stop using any dep / products from gnome project
[17:01] <NerdTheThird> i just use it because no screen tearing OOTB, and CTRL and ALT in FL Studio works as it should
[17:02] <tchakatak> NerdTheThird: no screen tearing on i3 with compton as a composite manager
[17:02] <tchakatak> its really 2,3 lignes in a text file to make it work really nicely
[17:03] <NerdTheThird> yeah i can't bother, so it's w/e
[17:03] <tchakatak> :)
[17:04] <neurrre> this is interesting
[17:05] <neurrre> badblocks has not reported errors when pluggin usb flash drive to back io panel, while I do get bad blocks for same drive in front panel USB port
[17:09] <jonvonb> So I'm running 18.10 with gnome desktop on an Intel Nuc6. I notice that when I click the lock icon, most of the time the desktop freezes and no longer accepts mouse input. Sometimes it works as intended though.
[17:10] <jonvonb> The workaround is to ctrl-alt-f? and switch back. This puts me back at login screen.
[17:16] <hggdh> jonvonb: yes, a return to graphics puts you back to login; but after authentication, you will be back in the previous session
[17:16] <hggdh> jonvonb: but the freeze sounds like a bug
[17:17] <mr_paz> hi there, on 18.04.1, fresh install, set up automatic backups (duplicity), when it popped up asking for my password to backup, I input pw and clicked 'save password' checkbox.  However, I must've typo'd pw, bc now when it tries to backup I get error...  Error processing remote manifest (duplicity-inc.20181113T022658Z.to.20181120T155548Z.manifest.gpg): GPG Failed, see log below:
[17:17] <mr_paz> [17:17] <mr_paz> gpg: WARNING: "--no-use-agent" is an obsolete option - it has no effect
[17:17] <mr_paz> gpg: AES256 encrypted data
[17:17] <mr_paz> gpg: encrypted with 1 passphrase
[17:17] <mr_paz> gpg: decryption failed: Bad session key
[17:18] <jonvonb> hggdh: I just repeated the bug. Clicked lock button and got login screen. Authenticated, clicked lock again and desktop froze.
[17:19] <jonvonb> Where do I report this? I tried creating an account on ubuntu.com and nagivating the support forums for about 20 minutes before giving up in total frustration.
[17:23] <hggdh> jonvonb: bugs are reported at bugs.launchapad.net, but you need to have an account there.
[17:24] <hggdh> jonvonb: then you can open a bug by running 'ubuntu-bug <package>'. I am not sure, but I think the <package> can be gnome-shell (I am not really a desktop person)
[17:25] <jonvonb> thanks! It would have taken forever to figure that out on ubuntu.com
[17:27] <hggdh> jonvonb: you might probably be better off going to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs
[17:27] <jonvonb> even better... thanks again
[17:29] <hggdh> jonvonb: you are welcome
[17:30] <OERIAS> Is there any way to turn off AppArmor Messages?
[17:34] <nacc> OERIAS: messages in where? syslog?
[17:34] <OERIAS> can i send a screenshot>
[17:34] <OERIAS> ?
[17:35] <OERIAS> https://imgur.com/a/nf65oc5
[17:39] <hggdh> mr_paz: deja-dup passwords are saved under seahorse (press the Supoer key, type in password, and it should show you an application named "passwords and keys"
[17:40] <hggdh> mr_paz: or just run 'seahorse &' from the terminal command line
[17:43] <hggdh> mr_paz: after starting seahorse, click on View in the menu, and select "Show any". Then click on the Login folder on the left side, and look for "Backup encryption password"
[17:44] <nacc> OERIAS: i never see such messages, I do not know, sorry
[17:50] <mr_paz> hggdh, that seems to have worked, backup is now prompting me for a pw again.  however, when i do backup now and enter pw and click 'forward' it seems to be running, then goes back to previous screen saying last backup was a few weeks ago
[17:52] <mr_paz> hggdh, nevermind, i re-opened backup, and where it previously said 'backup now' it now says 'next backup is today' so i think it will run?
[17:53] <Kingsy> I have just installed mc on ubuntu however it doesnt come with smbfs support. Can I add this without having to compile from source?
[17:53] <hggdh> mr_paz: guess so. You can click on "backup now", and force it to run right now, as opposed to later on today
[17:54] <mr_paz> hggdh, hmmm, ok maybe it's not ok... i did 'backup now' again and it appears to run, but only for about 20 seconds. then stops and doesn't give me any indication it completed
[18:00] <mr_paz> hggdh, when i enter a wrong pw it gives me the bad decryption key error.  when i do the right pw it seems to start running but then it re-prompts me for pw again, doesn't seem to actually run/complete backup
[18:04] <hggdh> mr_paz: look for files called "*.manifest" under ~/deja-dup -- the most recent should list what was backed up in the last run
[18:07] <awakecoding> I am running Ubuntu 16.04, but I would like to install the latest versions of virt-manager and qemu-kvm. what is the best way to get the latest builds of those packages on top of 16.04?
[18:07] <lordcirth> awakecoding, is there a reason you do not want to upgrade to 18.04?
[18:08] <awakecoding> lordcirth: I'm considering the upgrade (it's not enabled for LTS until later this summer apparently), however, I'd like to see if I can avoid upgrading my entire distro for this
[18:08] <awakecoding> I want to do nested Hyper-V according to this article (https://ladipro.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/running-hyperv-in-kvm-guest/) but the packages on 16.04 are too old
[18:09] <mr_paz> hggdh, there's not a ~/deja-dup directory
[18:11] <lordcirth> awakecoding, I recommend just upgrading.  libvirt, qemu-kvm, etc have a lot of dependencies
[18:11] <lordcirth> 18.04.1 is out and pretty good
[18:12] <awakecoding> lordcirth: ok, that's what I'll do then. I have a desktop computer that shouldn't cause issues with the upgrade, but I also have an XPS 13 developer edition that came with 16.04 and I am unsure about how safe the upgrade process is
[18:12] <hggdh> mr_paz: yes... just noticed I was looking at an older backup. Let me try to find out
[18:13] <lordcirth> awakecoding, I usually do a clean install when upgrading, but do-release-upgrade ought to work.
[18:13] <mr_paz>  thank you
[18:14] <awakecoding> lordcirth: a clean install isn't "upgrading" :P it's reinstalling with a newer version.
[18:14] <awakecoding> anyway, I'll cross fingers and hope for the best
[18:14] <hggdh> mr_paz: it is now under ~/.cache/deja-dup
[18:14] <hggdh> mr_paz: and I will be busy for a few hours now, so you will need to depend on others
[18:17] <mr_paz> hggdh, thanks for the help
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> mr_paz: feel free to re-state your question to the channel where you at
[18:22] <mr_paz> lotuspsychje, my q is this... when trying to make backup using duplicity gui, i click on 'back up now', it says preparing then prompts me for encryption pw, i enter pw, it appears to run for about 20 then returns to enter pw prompt. doesn't appear back up completed.  i believe it's correct pw b/c if i enter different pw it throws a gpg error
[18:23] <lordcirth> mr_paz, and when you try from the command line?
[18:23] <mr_paz> hmm, do you know commands off top of your head?
[18:25] <mr_paz> deja-dup --backup
[18:26] <lordcirth> mr_paz, yeah, try that first.  If that doesn't work, go down another layer: $ duplicity full $HOME /some/backupdir
[18:32] <mr_paz> lordcirth, /some/backupdir should be outside of /home/ correct?  lol
[18:32] <lordcirth> mr_paz, yes, lol
[18:40] <mr_paz> lordcirth, seems to be running currently ...
[18:40] <lordcirth> mr_paz, so if that works, you know the problem is with deja-dup and/or it's settings
[18:46] <mr_paz> lordcirth, seems to still be running...
[18:46] <mr_paz> how do I manipulate deja-dup settings?
[18:46] <lordcirth> mr_paz, you can check 'top' to see if it's doing anything.
[18:47] <mr_paz> top?  how do i do that?
[18:47] <lordcirth> If your homedir is large, a full backup could take a while
[18:47] <lordcirth> mr_paz, you open a terminal and run 'top'
[18:48] <mr_paz> gpg and duplicity seem to be using a lot of cpu, so I suppose it's still running
[18:49] <lordcirth> How big is your $HOME?
[18:51] <mr_paz> I think about 19gb
[18:52] <lordcirth> yeah, that might take a bit
[18:53] <mr_paz> just finished.  no errors
[18:54] <mr_paz> lordcirth, so problem is with deja-dup
[18:54] <lordcirth> mr_paz, ok.  So, did you configure deja-dup through the GUI originally?
[18:54] <mr_paz> yes
[18:54] <patr0clus> why on my desktop is there sometimes an arrow pointing at my activity bar where my internet, caffeine are displayed?
[18:55] <lordcirth> Is it backing up only $HOME ?
[18:55] <mr_paz> lordcirth, yes
[18:55] <lordcirth> patr0clus, could you show a screenshot?
[18:55] <lordcirth> mr_paz, /home, or /home/youruser?
[18:56] <patr0clus> unfortunately, its not there currently.
[18:56] <mr_paz> lordcirth, on 'folders to save' tab it says 'Home (user)' so i assume thats /home/user/
[18:57] <lordcirth> mr_paz, ok.  So if you start it, and click Details, does it show any errors?
[18:57] <lordcirth> Or does it not get that far?
[18:58] <mr_paz> lordcirth, nothing shows up in the details pane before it re-prompts me for password
[18:59] <lordcirth> mr_paz, what happened when you did deja-dup --backup?
[18:59] <lordcirth> Does it pop up the gui?
[18:59] <mr_paz> lordcirth, yes.  does exact same thing
[18:59] <patr0clus> is there a good way to permanently alter/route your dns on Ubuntu, both ipv4 and
[18:59] <patr0clus> ipv6?
[19:02] <lordcirth> mr_paz, welp, at this point I would probably give up and use duplicity directly, or another backup tool, like Borg.
[19:02] <lordcirth> Unless you are interested in tracking down the problem for its own sake.
[19:03] <mr_paz> lordcirth, lol.. maybe, but not right now.
[19:03] <mr_paz> i'll check out borg
[19:04] <lordcirth> borg is pretty great.  We use it to back up 5TB & a few million files over a network.  Takes 2 hours to do an incremental.
[19:05] <troozers> Quick question about luks encrypted drive and dd; I want to create a backup of my encrypted drive before I try something possible stupid, but want to ensure I can restore if required.  Will a dd image restore ok with the encryption still in place?
[19:06] <mr_paz> lordcirth, i guess while i'm here, i'll ask about one more annoyance... i'm using standard ubuntu Addwaita-dark theme.  however, in firefox it seems to mess up several webpages, making text white (on white background), particularly in text input boxes, like when entering an email address or something... any ideas to remedy?
[19:06] <EriC^^> troozers: yes
[19:06] <troozers> EriC^^: Many thanks. I had assumed as much, but just wanted to double check
[19:07] <ajeet_> hi all
[19:07]  * troozers doffs hat in Eric^^ 's direction before exiting stage left
[19:08] <lordcirth> mr_paz, this seems relevant: https://www.mkammerer.de/blog/gtk-dark-theme-and-firefox/
[19:10] <mr_paz> lordcirth, that looks very relevant, searched google for a couple hours yesterday, but didn't unearth this... good find!
[19:10] <mr_paz> hopefully it works
[19:15] <mr_paz> lordcirth, holy cow that fix worked!
[19:15] <lordcirth> cool
[19:15] <mr_paz> thank you, kind sir!
[19:15] <lordcirth> np
[19:36] <mrhubrisje> Q: Ubuntu 18.04 - how do i change the "first day of the week" in Gnome Calendar? Evolution is doing it correct but Gnome Calendar is not. Or do i actually need to edit a locales files to fix that?
[19:53] <itsme> hi
[19:53] <itsme> I have question wrt upgrading
[19:53] <itsme> I was upgrading to 18.10. And my computer stopped in btw and rebooted. Then on restart I had a blank display. I went into tty4 and did sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade; sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a. Then, it worked and I was in 18.10. But on doing sudo apt upgrade again I get this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2W7P7rHfRY/ how can I fix this? do I force them to update? or just leave them alone?
[19:54] <TJ-> itsme: try "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[19:54] <ioria> itsme, sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:55] <TJ-> itsme: 'upgrade' won't bring in /new/ packages whereas full-upgrade will
[19:56] <Schnabeltierchen> hi guys, a newbie needs help, i tinkered myseld a script to check for some systemd-services, but it´s a bit buggy. could someone take a look at it and help me with line 8? https://nopaste.xyz/?59beb947e8af3162#mgbQ8Y/qQdU3EL8i9pl006BJtH3CSlSs82qeGKggxrc=
[19:56] <itsme> cool. works now. Another question: I notice that on apt update the sources are just 5 instead something >30 I had before the upgrade
[19:57] <itsme> how do I other ones back they are still there /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[19:58] <ioria> itsme, what are ppas?
[19:59] <itsme> ioria: software like chrome, sublime etc.
[19:59] <ioria> itsme, if they are ppas there have been disabled , so you need to renablethemagain (if they are still supported)
[19:59] <ioria> *they
[19:59] <TJ-> Schnabeltierchen: what's the problem?
[20:00] <itsme> ioria: yeah exactly. But how?
[20:00] <andi> Hello can you tell me which software transparent caching services are using to cache websites? Am I able to setup such a cache for my website on an own server?
[20:00] <ioria> itsme, how you did the first time you installed them
[20:01] <itsme> ioria: I think mostly with apt install
[20:01] <ioria> itsme, nope, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xxx/xxx
[20:02] <Mathisen> andi, redis ? or maybe i understood the question wrong
[20:03] <itsme> ioria: for each one?
[20:03] <ioria> itsme, yes
[20:03] <itsme> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KNYtBJJ9GW/ this what it looks like
[20:03] <itsme> I mean there 30 of them.
[20:03] <itsme> I will have to run 30 commands
[20:04] <andi> Mathisen: Frontend caches like cloudfront. Isn't redis rather a backend caching system?
[20:04] <ioria> itsme, try to remove the '#' and run   apt update
[20:04] <andi> What I'd like to achieve is to point a domain to a servers ip which requests a website that is hosted on another server and caches images, js, css and other static files instantly and maybe even cache the html part of the page.
[20:04] <TJ-> andi: squid
[20:05] <ioria> itsme, from the the 'deb' line i mean
[20:09] <andi> TJ-: But is squid a caching that's installed on the webserver or is it rather a tool to cache internet traffic to an office to make stuff faster?
[20:09] <TJ-> andi: can be used in many configurations
[20:10] <TJ-> andi: see http://www.squid-cache.org/
[20:14] <tpw_rules> so it looks like i'm getting ads on my console? https://i.imgur.com/1v1KT7z.png what's the deal with that
[20:17] <lordcirth> tpw_rules, /etc/update-motd.d/50-motd-news
[20:18] <tpw_rules> is that associated with a package?
[20:19] <lordcirth> apt-file search /etc/update-motd.d/50-motd-news \n base-files: /etc/update-motd.d/50-motd-news
[20:20] <tpw_rules> i see. well thanks for the pointers
[20:20] <lordcirth> np.  If you want to disable that bit, just chmod -x
[20:21] <Ben64> change a 1 to a 0 in /etc/default/motd-news
[20:21] <lordcirth> ah, good to know
[20:22] <Ben64> yeah just looked it up
[20:22] <Ben64> i've noticed it on one of my boxes but haven't cared enough yet to check into it
[20:22] <lordcirth> me either
[21:24] <viky600833> AWAY
[21:55] <pulkit25> hi, I will like to help updating the mercurial package!
[21:56] <pulkit25> debian is shipping the latest mercurial https://packages.debian.org/sid/mercurial, but looks like ubuntu has not included that
[21:57] <pulkit25> any pointers on how I can help to fix that will be great.
[21:59] <nacc> pulkit25: in what release?
[21:59] <nacc> !latest | pulkit25
[22:03] <pulkit25> nacc: ubuntu xenial, right now it fixes with mercurial-3.7.3 which has known security vulnerabilities being more than 3 years old.
[22:05] <nacc> pulkit25: base version != backports of security patches. mercurial is also in universe.
[22:05] <nacc> pulkit25: so no security support guaranteed
[22:07] <nacc> pulkit25: specifically to my first point, it's 3.7.3-1ubuntu1.2, which is also in xenial-security, so there have been security updates
[22:08] <pulkit25> nacc: thanks for looking, the latest in 4.8, I am finding links to disclosures of security vulnerabilities which are not in the package
[22:11] <chrismatthews> I have a ubuntu ec2 instance. Where can I find the terminal config file?
[22:16] <hggdh> chrismatthews: what do you mean by "terminal config file"? Can you please expand?
[22:19] <chrismatthews> Isn't there a config file related to terminal settings? I see this question: https://askubuntu.com/questions/83731/where-are-shell-terminal-settings-stored but that folder doesn't seem to exist
[22:23] <jluc> a long time ago, i used some terminal extension or setting that enabled TAB key
[22:23] <hggdh> chrismatthews: in AWS, usually there is no such config (most instances are non-grhical)
[22:23] <jluc>  to expand the currently begun command into the previous one begining with the same begining
[22:23] <chrismatthews> ok thanks.
[22:24] <jluc> typing 'ls' then <TAB> provided th last "ls" command, that could have been "ls -ltr c*" for example
[22:25] <jluc> right now 'ls'+TAB provides the list of all available commands begining with 'ls',
[22:25] <jluc> but i'd prefer to have the last ones I typed
[22:25] <jluc> do you know how i can recover that behaviour ?
[22:27] <hggdh> jluc: create (or adjust) ~/.inputrc, assigning the key you want to history-search-backward
[22:27] <hggdh> jluc: usually this would be set to up-arrow, with down-arrow set to history-search-forward
[22:28] <chrismatthews> By default would an EC2 ubuntu instance log changes to time settings? I can't find where those are logged.
[22:38] <jluc> it was more an autocompletion than a research sort of thing
[22:39] <hggdh> jluc: auto-completion does not make much of a sense here. How does one auto-complete a 'ls' command, for example?
[22:39] <hggdh> chrismatthews: try journalctl _SYSTEMD_UNIT=systemd-timesyncd.service
[22:42] <raidghost> I dont understand why /dev/dvb/ shows 6 tuners on box1 and 8 tuners on box2. They run the same 18.04 LTS and the same firmware and drivers and kernel.
[22:47] <raidghost> Can a canonical-livepatch mess up amount of dvb tuners?
[22:54] <egrain> where do you guys store your iptables?
[22:55] <egrain> oh, also no iptables.service file.
[22:55] <mutante> egrain: i think /etc/rc.local is popular but i bet also wrong :)
[22:55] <egrain> don't even have that here.
[22:55] <mutante> another answer would be for me:  /etc/ferm/conf.d/ because ferm would generate them for me
[22:55] <egrain> oh, right. ubuntu users. you probably don't write your own.
[22:55] <egrain> hm.
[22:56] <egrain> there is a wiki isn't there? i see if i can find something.
[22:56] <mutante> actually i dont know, not an ubuntu user :p
[22:56] <mutante> there is probably ufw, but didnt mean that
[22:56] <mutante> you say that as if writing your is a good thing though :)
[22:57] <egrain> isn't it? what?
[22:57] <egrain> why wouldn't you write your own?
[22:58] <mutante> more room for making mistakes, more work
[22:58] <egrain> well, i wouldn't know. i've never used any of the gui thingies.
[22:58] <egrain> but if you like them, by all means. enjoy.
[22:59] <mutante> egrain: i think the actual Ubuntu answer is ufw here. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/firewall.html.en
[22:59] <egrain> well, not a problem.
[22:59] <mutante> egrain: the "ferm" thing i mentioned has nothing to do with GUI , btw
[22:59] <egrain> i'll just write my own systemd service file.
[23:00] <mutante> it generates the rules, but that is still all just cli, and you write config.. just that it's much simpler
[23:00] <mutante> anyways, back to your orignal question.. it's just a matter of style where you put it
[23:01] <mutante> and systemd unit sounds good, ack
[23:01] <egrain> i'm actually trying to get away from the systemd.
[23:01] <egrain> though ubuntu is too easy and it's just for clients, so, yeah. who cares?
[23:02] <egrain> unless you know of a systemdless ubuntu version of course.
[23:02] <egrain> i never looked.
[23:13] <mutante> egrain: just use Debian .. but also systemd ..would be my reply
[23:14] <egrain> why debian? i mean they have a cool logo, but i can just use ubuntu then. i need something quick to install and easy to use.
[23:32] <pdkl> is it ok to use 18.04 ppa if  the 18.10 ppa doesnt exist?
[23:32] <pdkl> shouldnt be much difference?
[23:36] <hggdh> pdkl: if the dependencies are satisfied, it might work. But you would probably have to download the package by hand, and dpkg -i it.
[23:36] <hggdh> pdkl: no matter what, if it breaks something in your install, you yourself get to glue it all together
[23:38] <pdkl> yeah i tried just now, 18.10 has a newer qt
[23:40] <pdkl> i really like ubuntu 18.10 theme
[23:46] <Kremator> pdkl, so ubuntu 18.10 is qt?
[23:49] <eelstrebor> was there a replacement app for unetbootin for bionic? it doesn't show up in the package manager
[23:59] <pi0> is there a way to mount an iso as a cdrom
[23:59] <pi0> in buntu


[01:05] <Shane_Fagan> dtchen: are you there?
[01:49] <BrunoXLambert> if I understand correcly (read: I have no clue), I need the dev build of gnome(-doc-tool) to create things with the Mallard structure
[01:51] <BrunoXLambert> that was meant to be in another channel
[01:51] <BrunoXLambert> sorry
[02:40] <adambanana> hello
[07:27] <ara> good morning!
[07:33] <MaWaLe> morning :)
[07:40] <ara> buenos días jcollado
[07:40] <jcollado> Buenos días ara
[08:31] <davmor2> Morning All
[16:04] <eeejay> hey ara!
[16:04] <eeejay> hey folks
[16:04] <ara> hey eeejay!
[16:05] <ara> eeejay: when are you leaving to gran canaria?
[16:05] <eeejay> ara: on thursday morning, checking when i arrive...
[16:06] <eeejay> ara: friday morning, you?
[16:06] <ara> eeejay: friday around 4pm
[16:08] <ara> eeejay: are you staying at the fataga hotel?
[16:08] <eeejay> ara: no, at catalina park, it's an apartment building, i think
[16:13] <eeejay> ara: what do you think of bug 393577?
[16:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 393577 in mago "Remove Ekiga from ubuntu-menu test suite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393577
[16:16] <ara> eeejay: I agree. right now the ekiga test is a bit useless
[16:17] <ara> eeejay: +1
[16:17] <ara> eeejay: how is the checkbox integration going?
[16:17] <eeejay> ara: committing!
[16:17]  * eeejay checks if he has other questions for ara before she goes to sleep
[16:18] <ara> eeejay: :)
[16:18] <eeejay> ara: generate pgp keys takes forever, and usually fails, do you experience the same?
[16:19] <ara> eeejay: it use to work for me, but I haven't touched it in a while
[16:19] <ara> eeejay: how do you measure "usually"
[16:20] <eeejay> ara: with accurate statistics :)
[16:20] <eeejay> ara: it gets stuck at "generating primegen"
[16:21]  * ara tries
[16:22] <eeejay> ara: there is a checkbox-certification branch with a mago plugin
[16:22] <ara> eeejay: nice, I'll have a look to it
[16:27]  * ara is trying to delete old ldtp python files that are incompatible
[16:27] <eeejay> yikes
[16:34] <eeejay> cr3, how do you have strings with spaces in a space-delimited list in checkbox's ini file?
[16:43] <cr3> eeejay: hm, got an example?
[16:43] <eeejay> cr3, suite names in mago could have spaces, so when i create a whitelist
[16:44] <eeejay> cr3, whitelist = "Sound And Video" "gedit chains"
[16:44] <eeejay> cr3, but quotes don't work, tried that
[16:45] <cr3> eeejay: the problem might be this regex: \s*,?\s+
[16:46] <eeejay> cr3, yeah. couldn't figure out a way to work with that
[16:46] <cr3> eeejay: do you think it would be reasonable to separate with \s*,\s+?
[16:46] <eeejay> cr3, you mean csv?
[16:47] <cr3> eeejay: kinda, with leading and trailing spaces stripped
[16:47] <eeejay> cr3, spaces or commas are fine. the solution needs to be proper escapage
[18:25] <shane_fagan> Error in updating xserver-xorg is this a known issue http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/207070/
[18:26] <charlie-tca> That is the error I got too, and restarting broke it bad
[18:26] <charlie-tca> as in, no more desktop, no nothing
[18:26] <shane_fagan> Im not going to restart until it updates and builds correctly
[18:26] <charlie-tca> long list of permission denied, though
[18:26] <shane_fagan> hmmm sounds like a bad one
[18:27] <shane_fagan> Ill submit a bug report
[18:27] <charlie-tca> Great. I can' t from this machine
[18:27] <charlie-tca> I'll aedd to it when I get things going here
[18:28] <shane_fagan> You can still go into recovery mode and do an xfix
[18:28] <charlie-tca> I can try to. Nothing has worked yet
[18:29] <charlie-tca> This was a fresh install, too
[18:30] <charlie-tca> uhh, don' t work
[18:30] <shane_fagan> Too bad, just finished filing the bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/393948
[18:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 393948 in xorg "Error in update [Karmic]" [Undecided,New]
[18:31] <charlie-tca> froze my mouse, killed the desktop, may have to reinstall again. just installed this two days ago.
[18:31] <shane_fagan> Prerelease versions arent recommended
[18:32] <shane_fagan> You'll have to wait for the fix
[18:32] <charlie-tca> only to test it though
[18:33] <charlie-tca> Without the fresh install, I can't test it good.
[18:33] <shane_fagan> Ah we are all testing it :)
[18:33] <shane_fagan> Anyhow bug filed should be fixed in no time
[18:34] <charlie-tca> Yeah, check your ~/.xsession-errors log
[18:35] <shane_fagan> Its all included in the bug report
[18:35] <charlie-tca> looks here like /etc/gdm/Xsession is got problems
[20:10] <cr3> eeejay: ok, so I'll try to find a reasonable solution to the proper escpapage of lists
[20:37] <cr3> eeejay: this is what I propose: no longer assume comma separated, because that will just postpone the problem under we have a string with a comma in it.
[20:38] <cr3> eeejay: instead, always expect space separated and support for escaping spaces with a backslash: Sound\ And\ Video gedit\ chains
[21:01] <fader> eeejay, cr3: gtkbuilder branch of checkbox dies on hardy: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/207147/
[21:01] <fader> (generated by "checkbox-gtk --log-level=debug")
[21:01] <cr3> fader: thanks man (I love log-level=debug)
[21:02] <fader> Hehe
[21:03] <fader> cr3: How about an undocumented switch like --log-verbosity=incredibly-ridiculously-verbose?  You could spell out times and dates in words, f'rinstance.
[21:03] <cr3> eeejay: I think I found a reasonable solution for the escapage of lists. I'll create a bug, push branch, submit for approval, scratch myself, smoke
[21:04] <cr3> fader: I could also pipe to a text to speech program
[21:05]  * fader has a great idea for the extended-audio-testing spec...
[21:06] <cr3> man, you're opening a can of sandworms!
[21:08] <fader> Mmm, spicy!
[21:19] <cr3> eeejay: done, please have a look at this branch if it solves the problem with escapage: lp:~cr3/checkbox/bug-394001


[14:39] <darknite> hello
[15:00] <darknite> anyone?
[15:05] <Kilos> hi darknite
[15:05] <Kilos> can i help you?
[15:05] <darknite> is there any meeting right now?
[15:06] <Kilos> sec let me check calender
[15:07] <Kilos> i see ubuntu security team weekly meeting
[15:07] <darknite> in this room or other?
[15:07] <Kilos> at 18.30
[15:08] <Kilos> not sure if that is my time or utc
[15:09] <Kilos> i am monitoring a number of channels, if they start somewhere else ill ping you
[15:09] <Kilos> ok?
[16:02] <jdstrand> Kilos: fyi, the security team meeting starts in 30 minutes, at 16:30 UTC
[16:02] <Kilos> ty jdstrand
[16:02] <Kilos> ah so the 18.30 is my time. thanks for hat
[16:02] <Kilos> that
[16:09] <darknite> 30 more minutes?
[16:10] <Kilos> about 20 now
[16:11] <darknite> i might not be going for full meeting
[16:17] <darknite> ok
[16:27] <darknite> almost time
[16:31] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:31] <jjohansen> \o
[16:31] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[16:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon May 16 16:31:39 2016 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:31] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:31] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:31] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:31] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:31] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[16:32] <jdstrand> I'm continuing to focus on snappy
[16:32] <jdstrand> I've got some snappy interface PRs to review
[16:32] <jdstrand> I need to respond to the seccomp arg filtering comments and try to land that
[16:33] <jdstrand> policy recompiles for apparmor upgrades on snappy
[16:33] <jdstrand> ty hicks and I will go over sprint outcomes and adjust priorities as necessary
[16:33] <jdstrand> I think that's it from me
[16:33] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:33] <mdeslaur> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I'm testing some packages I'll be releasing this week (libarchive, libksba)
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I'm awaiting upstream samba to commit one of the regression fixes, and I'll release some samba regression updates
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I also have two embargoed issues I'm working on
[16:34] <mdeslaur> that's pretty much it, sbeattie?
[16:35] <sbeattie> I'm on community this week
[16:35] <sbeattie> I'm currently working on USNs for the kernels that just got published
[16:35] <mdeslaur> oh, and I'll work on php5 time permitting
[16:35] <sbeattie> heh, my condolences.
[16:36] <sbeattie> I've got the issues around updating gcc-4.8 in trusty sorted out, and will be publishing those later today.
[16:36] <jdstrand> oh nice!
[16:36] <sbeattie> I'm finishing up looking for adt regressions so we can publish glibc updates
[16:37] <sbeattie> I need to get back to looking at gcc -pie failures in yakkety
[16:37] <sbeattie> I may try to pick up another update as well in the background.
[16:38] <sbeattie> that's probably it for my week. tyhicks is off today, so jjohansen?
[16:38] <jjohansen> I'm focusing on apparmor again this week
[16:39] <jjohansen> I need to poke at several bugs, 1581990 in particular is troubling
[16:39] <jjohansen> and I still need finish addressing stacking namespace issues so we can fully enable it
[16:40] <jdstrand> huh, I wonder if 1581990 has anything to do with the snappy bug, since the reporter said that was only after reloads
[16:41] <jdstrand> (bug #1579135)
[16:41] <jjohansen> possibly, that it looks like something I know was already fixed, so I am wondering if its another path to it
[16:41] <jjohansen> I think that will take the week and then some, so sarnold you are up
[16:42] <jjohansen> jdstrand: those do look similar
[16:44] <sarnold> sorry I'm late
[16:44] <sarnold> I' mon cve triage this week
[16:44] <sarnold> I'm aiming to get some imagemagick updates out the door today
[16:45] <sarnold> it'd be nice to get some yak shaving done this week (use new computer for builds; it'd be nice to do that in lxd without overlayfs or aufs things)
[16:45] <sarnold> and either apparmor reviewss or MIR reviews
[16:45] <sarnold> that should be the week, jdstrand?
[16:46] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: you're up
[16:46] <sarnold> oh sigh :)
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> This week I've got an Oxide update to get out (I had that last week, but then there was another Chromium release)
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> I've also got a Chromium update to sponsor (yay!), and I need to publish thunderbird
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> In addition to that, I'm still working on bits for bug 1326697 and I'm hoping to have a branch to start reviewing for bug 1544754 as well
[16:49] <jdstrand> sarnold: it might make sense to sync up with tyhicks tomorrow if there is another update you can help with (not sure of the priorities relative to said reviews, so mentioning that in a friendly manner :)
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> Other than that, I hope to be able to get back to https://launchpad.net/oxide/+milestone/branch-1.16
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> That's me done
[16:50] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:50] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:50] <jdstrand> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:50] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/zookeeper.html
[16:50] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/zeromq.html
[16:51] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/lhasa.html
[16:51] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pen.html
[16:51] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/dcmtk.html
[16:51] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:51] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:55] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks!
[16:55] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[16:55] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon May 16 16:55:37 2016 UTC.
[16:55] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-05-16-16.31.moin.txt
[16:55] <jjohansen> thanks jdstrand
[16:56] <sarnold> thanks jdstrand
[16:56] <sbeattie> jdstrand: thanks!
[16:57] <mdeslaur> thanks jdstrand!