[03:16] <deviant> can you guys recomend me a dc++ client ?
[03:16] <mhz> geetergod, AFAIK, there at least 3 deamons/systems that can control your sound... ALSA, OSS, eSound, etc
[03:17] <Fabian> Seveas, talk in englisch please! ;) Sorry, I'm absolutely new. What is WEP/WPA?
[03:17] <Seveas> deviant, valknut (package dcgui-qt) seems to be used a lot
[03:17] <mhz> geetergod, you may try with one of those and see what happens
[03:17] <geetergod> When i try to play a song in xmms i get "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct plugin selected and No other program is blocking the soundcard.
[03:17] <mhz> geetergod, now, HOW? no idea
[03:17] <geetergod> i tried ALSA and OSS
[03:17] <mhz> geetergod, I would have done the same you did :)
[03:18] <mhz> but everytiemi get to those issues I never succedded
[03:18] <geetergod> How do i check if theres another program blocking the soundcard?
[03:18] <deviant> Seveas: it can be installed by apt ?
[03:18] <Seveas> deviant, yes
[03:18] <deviant> Seveas: ok
[03:19] <blackgibson> geetergod: Has sound ever worked? and if not, did you google your soundcard to see if it is supported by alsa or oss?
[03:19] <geetergod> blackgibson, yes it did work last night before someone tried "helping" me get the surround to work, i also have a black gibson, if you mean guitar.
[03:20] <itay> hey? guys?
[03:20] <blackgibson> Greetergod: Odd that. and yes, a Explorer
[03:21] <geetergod> blackgibson, cool, i have a couple les pauls
[03:21] <Fabian> Seveas, just googled WEP and WPA.... I don't know if I need that. In windows you just connect to the wlan net an start vpn then
[03:21] <blackgibson> Greetergod: my other guitars are fenders & ibanezes ;)
[03:21] <itay> i was wondering where i can get some help about troubleshooting startup problems with ubuntu, it just doesn't load anymore..
[03:21] <Fabian> Seveas, I got vpnc installed at it works fine
[03:21] <Seveas> Fabian, aha. Given that you need a VPN, you will probably not need wep or wpa
[03:22] <geetergod> blackgibson, yah i also have a telecaster and an esp and a couple acoustics, still wish my sound worked :)
[03:22] <Fabian> Seveas, very well then.... So I'll try that wlan on monday
[03:22] <blackgibson> Greetergod: My obvious advice would be to undo what was done to make surround work and cross your fingers. sorry i dont have anything more constructive to say. I have never had a sound problem in my years of linuxing. Lucky i guess
[03:23] <Fabian> Seveas, If it just searches for an IP adress, (as mhz said) it should work as soon as it finds that "public" net. Right?
[03:23] <co_ubuntu> hello every body
[03:23] <Seveas> Fabian, well, yes
[03:23] <co_ubuntu> I just use UBUNTU
[03:23] <Fingertips> Seveas, do you knwo how to edit the wine config so i can play starcraft w/o a cdrom error
[03:23] <geetergod> blackgibson, i went into Volume Control and did something with Multi Track Internal Clock
[03:23] <co_ubuntu> what's default password for root?
[03:24] <co_ubuntu> because I can't login for root
[03:24] <co_ubuntu> please...
[03:24] <Morten^Toft> same password as the normal user
[03:24] <Morten^Toft> if you only created one
[03:24] <Seveas> co_ubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:24] <Seveas> there is no root password...
[03:24] <geetergod> blackgibson, can you go to you volume control and Edit, Pref, and see what your Multi Track Clock # is?
[03:24] <Seveas> Fingertips, ENOCLUE, i never used starcraft
[03:25] <blackgibson> greetergod: I have never seen that setting. It may be specific to your sound hardware
[03:25] <co_ubuntu> thank you
[03:25] <co_ubuntu> but I can't change screen resolution
[03:25] <geetergod> blackgibson, its in ALSA sound
[03:25] <Seveas> co_ubuntu: To find out ho you can change your dispplay's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:25] <co_ubuntu> how to change screen resolution? If I don't have root user
[03:26] <co_ubuntu> thank you for your all help
[03:26] <Seveas> co_ubuntu, go to the page i just mentioned...
[03:26] <Fabian> Seveas, alright. So second problem: The hard part!
[03:26] <saruany> hello
[03:26] <Fingertips> Seveas, can you install ati drivers on ubuntu
[03:26] <DR_K13> HIHI
[03:26] <co_ubuntu> thank you
[03:26] <saruany> thanx for saying hi to me
[03:26] <Seveas> Fingertips, they are in the linux-restricted-modules package
[03:26] <Fabian> Seveas, Fingertips that's exactly my secont problem
[03:26] <Fingertips> ?
[03:26] <blackgibson> greetergod: Right, the options in Volume Control ( or at least my mixer ) change depending on what hardware you have. i dont see it here
[03:26] <itay> i was wondering where i can get some help about troubleshooting startup problems with ubuntu, it just doesn't load anymore..
[03:27] <blackgibson> greetergod: Im using a SB Live 5.1 for reference
[03:27] <Seveas> Fingertips, sudo apt-get install linux-686 (intel processor) or linux-k7 (amd processor)
[03:27] <saruany> any girls want to talk
[03:27] <Seveas> that will install the driver
[03:27] <Fabian> Seveas, i don't have to use the drivers provided by ati?
[03:27] <Fingertips> Seveas, what if im using an AMD barton, shouldnt that be the same as an intel
[03:27] <Seveas> Fabian, these are the drivers provided by ati
[03:27] <geetergod> blackgibson, im trying OSS mixer now with no results
[03:28] <Seveas> Fingertips, K7
[03:28] <Fingertips> Seveas, ok...
[03:28] <Fabian> Seveas, for any amd?
[03:28] <jayeola> hi guys. has anyone used a pci controller card with the it8212 chipset?
[03:28] <Seveas> Fabian,Fingertips: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <Seveas> Fabian, for anythin that is K7 or newer
[03:28] <Seveas> otherwise you need the linux-386 package
[03:28] <saruany> any females he girls
[03:29] <Fabian> Seveas, I bought it in october 04 so k7 right?
[03:29] <Seveas> saruany, please go to a more appropriate channel for that...
[03:29] <Seveas> Fabian, definitely
[03:29] <saruany> any person here that is not a computer geek
[03:29] <Seveas> saruany: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here.  ALSA is now default in the linux kernel, so if your card is supported by ALSA, that is what it will be using.There is a OSS Compatability Layer for ALSA, which is why OSS mixer works even if you are using ALSA.  I got Ati Radeon 9200 Mobility
[03:32] <Jormundgand> Hmm.  I try to access the network and it pops up a dialog box saying "you need to log onto jormundgand@ketsuban domain WARREN" and nothing I type for the password seems to work.
[03:32] <voth> is there any other way to check which driver ubuntu is using other thatn cat /proc/driver/blah, for some reason this installation I know is using a ati based driver by there is no /proc/driver/ati <- guess on my system
[03:32] <geetergod> blackgibson, its geetergod not greetergod :)
[03:32] <Seveas> Fabian, that page has ati instructions too
[03:33] <Seveas> voth, lsmod lists loaded kernel modules, that might help
[03:34] <geetergod> blackgibson, its saying ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program.
[03:34] <blackgibson> geetergod: heh, sorry, only been up for 30 minuites or so
[03:34] <Fabian> Seveas, I'll have a go
[03:34] <Fabian> cu later
[03:34] <geetergod> blackgibson, me too heh
[03:34] <geetergod> blackgibson, now how do i kill another program that it could be open in?
[03:34] <blackgibson> geetergod: well then, that is a clue isnt it? what else do you have running?
[03:34] <guest> hello all........I'm the new on UBUNTU...anyone can help me pls..^^
[03:35] <geetergod> blackgibson, i have this chat running, thats all
[03:35] <Seveas> guest, read the topic please: just ask questions
[03:35] <voth> Seveas, under drm it shows radeon (then again, not sure i'm reading the output correctly)
[03:35] <blackgibson> geetergod: open a termnial and type " ps -ux " ( without the quotations of course )
[03:35] <blackgibson> geetergod: that will list all the programs you are running
[03:35] <guest> sory all....cause I really start this session for 1st
[03:36] <jayeola> does anyone use a pci controller card here?
[03:36] <geetergod> blackgibson, the top line says "Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[03:36] <geetergod> "
[03:37] <blackgibson> geetergod: works dandy for me
[03:38] <forester> I am wondering... does someone make a smallish display which is well supported by Linux and FreeBSD. It only has to do text...
[03:39] <Fingertips> has anybody had starcraft work successfully on wine? i always get a cd missing error
[03:39] <forester> I'd love to pay 100 or 200 bucks for a little lcd to connect to boxes.
[03:39] <geetergod> blackgibson, heres what i get http://pastebin.com/298900
[03:39] <geetergod> blackgibson, thats when i did ps -ux and -aux
[03:39] <forester> Fingertips: That sounds like a good web search.
[03:39] <Ycros> fonsken: smaller ones tend to be more expensive :E
[03:40] <forester> Ycros: Not "tiny"
[03:40] <forester> Ycros: smallish :p
[03:40] <forester> there is a medium ground between tiny and large which I have always found is cheapest of all.
[03:41] <forester> In thi sday, I suspect what I am looking for is specialized and perhaps targetted to administrators/hackers.
[03:41] <forester> Because no one makes like an 8 inch lcd or something.
[03:41] <forester> They make tiny or large.
[03:41] <forester> So, I ask.
[03:41] <Seveas> forester, have you looked at thinkgeek?
[03:41] <forester> I will
[03:42] <CarlFK> forester - you want a little LCD display - there are some out there
[03:43] <CarlFK> geetergod - get your 5.1 sound working?
[03:43] <forester> Hmm..
[03:43] <forester> take a digital photo display and connect it to a linux box... i wonder..
[03:43] <geetergod> CarlFK, no sir, now i have no sound, says the sounds being used in another program
[03:43] <hondje> forester: sony did that and made /.
[03:43] <hondje> then again, I made /.
[03:44] <forester> what for?
[03:44] <hondje> My uncle dying
[03:44] <forester> who's that?
[03:44] <hondje> No one famous
[03:44] <forester> why was it on slashdot?
[03:44] <hondje> But the NYT did a piece on what happens to your data when you die (and painted me as a n00b)
[03:44] <CarlFK> forester - how is this: http://linuxfocus.org/English/July2000/article165.shtml
[03:45] <hondje> it was half interviews w/ me, on how losing data sucks, and half w/ a data recovery dude
[03:45] <hondje> nothing grand
[03:45] <forester> CarlFK: not quite right...
[03:45] <forester> I wanted a small display, multiple lines.
[03:45] <forester> You know, like maybe 80x25 characters.
[03:45] <forester> Maybe an 5-10 inch lcd monitor.
[03:46] <forester> or something better/more specializeds
[03:46] <TokenBad> I am so confused about sound on this system...it works for the computer system...when it boots and shuts down..and it works for like cd audio..and stuff like that..but when try to play a game in cedega it says unable to init base sound services
[03:46] <forester> a fast led with room for 80x25 characters might be interesting if it had linux console support
[03:47] <CarlFK> forester - what abould old 486ish laptops?
[03:47] <Seveas> CarlFK, you need a video-in...
[03:47] <Jormundgand> Now, where do I get Breezy support, since you lot are so dead-set against it and are so convinced installing it will make your system explode.
[03:47] <forester> They have the kind of thing I would like to see in standlone form, sure.
[03:47] <forester> So do large digital picture frames I suppose.
[03:47] <Seveas> or a serial cable and serial terminal connection :)
[03:47] <CarlFK> Seveas - "I" don't need squat ;)
[03:47] <Seveas> CarlFK, ack ;)
[03:48] <djm62> Jormundgand: breezy is unsupported....I guess you could pay someone
[03:49] <james__> RythmBox wont let me edit mp3 tags? Is this normal?
[03:49] <hondje> Jormundgand: either people are newbies and can't help with ugly problems like you'd find in breezy, or grumpy and think if you run it, you should know enough to do it. Did you check #ubuntu-devel ?
[03:50] <Morten^Toft> is the wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb package in the repositary corrupted ?
[03:50] <Jormundgand> hondje: My problem doesn't seem too ugly - it's just that it asks me for a password when I open the network servers window and I have no idea what to do then.
[03:50] <forester> Little portable dvd player screens might work
[03:50] <forester> I think someone should do this..
[03:50] <Morten^Toft> i get a MD5Sum mismatch error
[03:50] <hondje> Jormundgand: does it take your smbpasswd?
[03:50] <forester> I think sys admins and/or hackers with many boxes would find it convenient.
[03:50] <Jormundgand> hondje: I don't HAVE a smbpasswd.
[03:51] <hondje> I use nfs on everything
[03:51] <bleck> hello, does anyone know how to change the default port of the vnc remote desktop server?
[03:51] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, windows clients who try to connect to you need a password, while you haven't set a password?
[03:51] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, I have the same problem :(
[03:52] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: No, I'm trying to view the network servers window, and it's asking for a password from me but there's nothing on the network but me so I don't know what to do.
[03:52] <Jormundgand> All Windows shares should be in the Windows shares folder.
[03:52] <hondje> Jormundgand: did you try yours?
[03:52] <Jormundgand> Yes.
[03:53] <hondje> but if it makes you feel better, I can't get lm-sensors working after 5 years
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> err
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> whats the problem?
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> mount -t smbfs //ip/share /mnt/mount_point
[03:56] <Jormundgand> lsuactiafner: http://ketsuban.net/images/stuff/Screenshot-Authentication%20Required.png
[03:56] <CarlFK> geetergod - I found this: http://www.calel.cl/pci-devices/alsa-device-list.html  which let me to: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Ensoniq&card=Soundscape.&chip=&module=ice1724#opt
[03:56] <Jormundgand> And that's just from accessing the Network Servers window. (There's no other Linux servers on the network, so that should only have me on it.)
[03:56] <CarlFK> bleck...  5900
[03:56] <geetergod> CarlFK, nice
[03:57] <DeathWing> hello people
[03:57] <TokenBad> anyone have idea on sound issue?
[03:57] <fr500> Jormundgand, what is the problem?
[03:58] <Jormundgand> fr500: http://ketsuban.net/images/stuff/Screenshot-Authentication%20Required.png - when I try to access the Network Shares window it throws that up and I have no idea what to do.
[03:59] <TokenBad> who here uses cedega?
[04:00] <nasr> allow
[04:01] <Jormundgand> Nevermind, fixed it.
[04:01] <lsuactiafner> what was up?
[04:01] <lsuactiafner> i didnt get the question, just saw share..
[04:01] <DeathWing> hey guys where do i change the time settings to display 12 hours
[04:01] <nasr> allow ana150
[04:02] <Jormundgand> lsuactiafner: I made a Samba password for myself and it took it.
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <djm62> DeathWing: right-click->preferences
[04:02] <nasr> ana150
[04:03] <TokenBad> what codec is needed for playing mp3's on ubuntu?
[04:03] <DeathWing> oh so there it, thank you djm62
[04:03] <Jormundgand> nasr, what are you on about?
[04:03] <soulfly> Hi all. I want to use the nptl in libc.  Is it safe to switch to breezy or should I rather try to enable this in hoary?  Is that even possible without major work?
[04:04] <fr500> Jormundgand, sometimes windows needs some punishment to allow
[04:04] <Jormundgand> fr500: Indeed.
[04:04] <nasr> i want girlfriend
[04:04] <DeathWing> this is great i thought i couldnt right click on it, hehehe i really need to explore
[04:04] <Jormundgand> nasr: We don't always want what we get. :( Try beer.
[04:04] <hondje> nasr: You're in the wrong place to find one
[04:04] <Jormundgand> s/want what we get/get what we want/
[04:05] <soulfly> oh. judging by the discussion I might be in the wrong channel for my question.  :)    peace
[04:06] <lsuactiafner> lol
[04:06] <lsuactiafner> hondje : where did you buy here?
[04:06] <Jormundgand> soulfly: Breezy is fairly safe. There's a symlink problem you need to correct when you first switch but it's pretty okay after that.
[04:06] <hondje> lsuactiafner: online, of course
[04:06] <hondje> On the downside, our daughter is crazy
[04:06] <DanielN> how can i handle the tun0 interface?
[04:06] <lsuactiafner> lol
[04:06] <soulfly> hondje: is nptl on by default in hoarY?
[04:07] <hondje> soulfly: I don't know, but I was hit by a bug in a commercial pkg I use that's blamed on nptl, so I guessed it was
[04:07] <soulfly> Jormundgand: how "instable" is breezy.   Like debian unstable?  (which i'm used to)
[04:07] <Jormundgand> soulfly: IMO stable. Hasn't crashed yet.
[04:07] <hondje> more like debian experimental
[04:07] <DeathWing> wow, ubuntu is really stable
[04:07] <soulfly> :-)
[04:08] <DeathWing> the most stable distro ive used
[04:08] <Jormundgand> There's constant package problems - nvidia-glx currently has an outdated dependency meaning it can't be installed.
[04:08] <DeathWing> well ive only used 4 lol
[04:08] <ana150> what's wrong with that nasr? :D
[04:08] <hondje> DeathWing: Try debian hehe
[04:08] <Jormundgand> But the packages themselves are stable.
[04:08] <soulfly> but debian experimental hasn't ever been complete for me.. it's just "some packages waiting for unstable"
[04:08] <DeathWing> well ok, i have one partition left i could install debian there
[04:09] <soulfly> hondje, Jormundgand : thanks for the help
[04:09] <DeathWing> hondhe
[04:10] <hondje> DeathWing: You should give it a spin sometime
[04:10] <hondje> not as fancy as ubuntu, but built like a tank
[04:10] <soulfly> hondje: are you using i386 or compat?
[04:10] <DeathWing> yeah hondje, they say debian is stable but not so friendly
[04:10] <hondje> yeah
[04:11] <hondje> DeathWing: if you can use apt w/out synaptic, you can use debian
[04:11] <hondje> soulfly: yes
[04:11] <DeathWing> yeah hondje sure
[04:11] <hondje> Serious, DeathWing
[04:11] <hondje> Linux is linux is linux
[04:11] <DeathWing> ill give it a try
[04:11] <hondje> slack and gentoo are a little different, but the rest are fairly standard
[04:12] <DeathWing> im currently using, mandrake, fedora and suse but ubuntu the best ive seen
[04:13] <hondje> All have their plusses and minuses
[04:14] <hondje> like fedora has all the 'cool' toys for the kids who love new stuff, suse is the shit on a laptop, mandrake is nice and friendly, etc
[04:14] <DeathWing> yeah ofcourse hondje, and if i have problems i can always google for help
[04:15] <hondje> yeah, google was made for linux
[04:15] <ana150> DeathWing: except if you google, you have to speak 01110011
[04:15] <blackgibson> hondje: I dunno, im a "all the cool toys" kind of guy and I convereted from Fedora to Ubuntu
[04:15] <ana150> i mean that usually those helps are too hard to do for beginners
[04:16] <martinjh99> All my printouts are getting cut off at the top and bottom of the page - The headers and footers aren't getting printed but cut off half way.  What can I do to change the default papersize to A4?
[04:16] <DeathWing> ana150, lol, hondje mandrakes nice but not as stable as ubuntu
[04:16] <hondje> blackgibson: dont take the fun out of pigeonholing distros :(
[04:16] <magog> anyone get enlightenmtent dr17 working? i tried that link in the forums but couldent get it to work for me
[04:16] <ana150> DeathWing: but don't you agree?
[04:16] <hondje> magog: yes
[04:17] <hondje> soulfly: yeah, same here
[04:17] <hondje> I got tired of running sid and waiting for sarge to come out
[04:17] <ana150> how you can convert debian?
[04:17] <blackgibson> I just got sick of RPM
[04:17] <hondje> RPM sucks
[04:17] <blackgibson> Ubuntu is the first non RPm distro ive stayed on for more than a month
[04:17] <DeathWing> anal150 : well yeah, but i must admit, it helped me alot
[04:17] <hondje> most of that is lack of unified pkg management like deb/ub have
[04:17] <blackgibson> i cant see myself leaving it any time soon
[04:18] <soulfly> blackgibson: take a deep breath.. in here.. your safe from rpm.. they'll not harm you
[04:18] <ana150> DeathWing: well it sure does help when you find some good pages, but at first it was useless
[04:18] <hondje> ubuntu works for me...debian underneath, so I'm happy and stable, new stuff on top, so I'm having fun
[04:18] <martinjh99> All my printouts are getting cut off at the top and bottom of the page - The headers and footers aren't getting printed but cut off half way.  What can I do to change the default papersize to A4?
[04:18] <hondje> yeah, and man pages are useless for newbies
[04:18] <magog> hondje, how did you get enlightenment goin?
[04:19] <soulfly> hondje: are you on breezy or hoary?
[04:19] <hondje> magog: downloaded it from cvs and built it, hoary
[04:19] <CarlFK> martinjh99 - weird. my papser size defaults to A4 and I am in the US
[04:19] <magog> hondje, k, thats what imma do
[04:19] <DeathWing> ana150 : well, we just have to be resourceful, speaking of resourceful? huh i dont believe it came from me! lol
[04:19] <hondje> magog: you're hip to downloading dev libs?
[04:20] <martinjh99> I have set A4 in Firefox for eg and its still getting cut off at the top and bottom... ;)  Somewhere there is a setting thats not set for a4...
[04:20] <magog> hondje, well its too nice...i must have
[04:20] <hondje> the configure scripts detect everything, so no need to pass options to them
[04:20] <CarlFK> martinjh99 - in the printer setup
[04:20] <ana150> how easy is it to get wlan working with ubuntu and gentoo?, i found out that kubuntu has somekind of wlan support includet at start, but do i have to download something for ubuntu to get it work?
[04:20] <magog> so yea im gonna have to compile alot
[04:20] <hondje> magog: it's not that bad to build
[04:20] <magog> 13 or sokmething right?
[04:20] <DeathWing> ana150: do u have a webcam and if u do does ubuntu support it
[04:20] <blackgibson> soulfly: Deb just wasnt nice enough to get me over the brain damages of the other deb baided distros ive used in the past. Ubuntu is the first deb distro ive been comfy with..mind you, alot of that has to do with more up to date packages
[04:20] <hondje> when you hit a 'missing libfoobar', just apt-cache search foobar and find it, and go again
[04:20] <magog> cool
[04:21] <CarlFK> ana150 - for the most part, the installer finds  your wifi card and sets it up
[04:21] <martinjh99> CarlFK>Set to A4 in the properties...
[04:21] <CarlFK> martinjh99 - then I du no.
[04:21] <TokenBad> well I give up...still no sound in cedega
[04:21] <martinjh99> Hey no worries mate I'll find out how to fix it sooner or later!
[04:21] <hondje> TokenBad: did you killall esd?
[04:21] <ana150> CarlFK: ok thanks, that helps me a lot if im going to install it to my sisters pc
[04:22] <TokenBad> I went and edited a file like one site said
[04:22] <TokenBad> logged out and logged back in
[04:22] <soulfly> blackgibson:  I understand. Ubuntu is the first deb dist (haven't looked at MEPIS) I can comfortably recommend to relative newbies :)
[04:22] <ana150> DeathWing: no, i don't have a webcam, and i don't even wan't to
[04:22] <TokenBad> tried to pick oss
[04:22] <TokenBad> and test it
[04:22] <DeathWing> huh ok
[04:22] <mp_> ndiswrapper problems: ndiswrapper -l returns: "Prisma02 invalid driver!"
[04:23] <mp_> ??
[04:23] <hondje> I can't recommed ubuntu to real newbies who aren't computer-inclined
[04:23] <blackgibson> soulfly: im not a newb, but i dont use linux for anything more fancy than a desktop, so you know.. i tend to have newbish needs in some ways ;)
[04:23] <TokenBad> then it says failed to construct test pipeline or something like that
[04:23] <Mez> hondje - thats what we hope to change sith the UNP
[04:23] <dark> do you have a prism 2 card mp_?
[04:23] <TokenBad> how do you do killall esd?
[04:24] <hondje> Mez: UNP?
[04:24] <martinjh99> type killall esd at a terminal!
[04:24] <mp_> dark: yea, it is a dwl-g122 - i d'loaded the latest driver
[04:24] <hondje> Oh, I thought of something nice to have in breezy
[04:24] <mp_> dark: and follwoed http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:24] <hondje> since we're all sudo-fied and anti-terminal
[04:24] <soulfly> blackgibson: I see.  I'm trying to optimize HL2 performance on my ubuntu dist :)
[04:24] <hondje> on apps that aren't yours, you can't delete through nautilus...how about it pops up a gksudo box if you try?
[04:25] <Mez> hondje, the Ubuntu Newbie Project
[04:25] <dark> i think you should be using native drivers and not ndiswrapper
[04:25] <hondje> Mez: ah, link ?
[04:25] <goye2cz> in a terminal, how do I switch to the Desktop?
[04:25] <mp_> dark: ok?
[04:25] <mp_> dark: any hints?
[04:25] <dark> if you have a real prism card. i think the ones for prism are... hold on let me check
[04:25] <blackgibson> soulfly: i dont even want to know. Im already cringing ;)
[04:25] <hondje> goye2cz: ctrl-alt-f7
[04:25] <hondje> blackgibson: I'm in your alley
[04:25] <Mez> hondje - http://www.ubbuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuNewbie
[04:26] <Mez> hondje - http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuNewbie *
[04:26] <goye2cz> hondje: didn't seem to do anything.
[04:26] <hondje> I'm not an IT guy, or computer-saavy, I just want a desktop
[04:26] <blackgibson> UT2004 is gooe enough for me
[04:26] <Mez> still in the "thinking" stages
[04:26] <mp_> dark: FYI: it was not recogniused during install by hardware detect
[04:26] <goye2cz> hondje: I mean switch to the directory Desktop.
[04:26] <hondje> goye2cz: what do you mean terminal?
[04:26] <dark> mp_: just for kicks what laptop do you have, brand and model
[04:26] <hondje> goye2cz: oh, cd $HOME/Desktop
[04:26] <goye2cz> well, I'm working on installing my us122.
[04:26] <blackgibson> hondje: I monley around with all sorts of stuff.. have had webservers and shoutcasts and all manner of geekness up an running, but it really comes back to having a comfy desktop for me
[04:27] <mp_> dark: omnibook 4150 (an oldtimer)
[04:27] <blackgibson> monkey even
[04:27] <hondje> blackgibson: see, way above me :)
[04:27] <dark> mp_: ahh just wondering, mine had a problem where it wouldnt find pcmcia/carbus cards until i did a couple things
[04:27] <hondje> in 2000 windows wouldn't reinstall on my computer, so I bought mandrake since it was half the cost, stayed linux ever since because I like it better.....I'm certainly not a computer guru though :(
[04:27] <dark> mp_: my hp zv5000
[04:27] <mp_> dark: dwl-g122 is USB
[04:28] <dark> mp_: ahh, hmm i guess it would still use prism drivers
[04:28] <Kano_Ubuntu> where is the repository for mc?
[04:28] <goye2cz> hondje: it says no such file or dir.
[04:28] <Kano_Ubuntu> i cant live without it...
[04:28] <hondje> goye2cz: pwd, paste what it says
[04:28] <rommer> what is shorthand for byte?
[04:28] <soulfly> Jormundgand: I guess you don't run any of these programs? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseCxxTransition
[04:28] <Kano_Ubuntu> universe?
[04:28] <martinjh99> Kano>Universe just installing it to check for ya!
[04:28] <hondje> B?
[04:29] <rommer> hondje: b is then shorthand for bit?
[04:29] <hondje> Mez: good deal man
[04:29] <blackgibson> I started on linux cause i had a crap ass 486 that i was trying to squeeze ever MIPS out if i could
[04:29] <Kano_Ubuntu> just testing my scripts on ubuntu, x preconfig is not really good...
[04:29] <hondje> rommer: I think so, yeah
[04:29] <Mez> hondje - I sope so
[04:29] <goye2cz> hondje: /home/goye2cz
[04:29] <dark> mp_: im looking around on the ubuntu forums :x
[04:29] <hondje> goye2cz: okay, cd Desktop
[04:29] <mp_> dark: cool!
[04:30] <goye2cz> hondje: it's always easier than I'm trying to make it *sigh*
[04:30] <xirtam> what is the sources.list entry for latest ubuntu packages?
[04:30] <hondje> Mez: the only downside I see, and don't take this wrong...but the real newbies don't want to learn, they just want to do
[04:30] <hondje> xirtam: same as always
[04:30] <hondje> they're just links, basically, to the packages
[04:31] <flodine> guys can someone please give me a link to change my resolution to 1900x1200
[04:31] <blackgibson> hondje: amen brother
[04:31] <mp_> dark: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/327797
[04:31] <xirtam> hondje:  i would need the hole path ... i killed my xserver and dont have a browser to look for them ... could you post them here?
[04:32] <hondje> xirtam: http://www.hondje.net/~hondje/sources.list
[04:32] <hondje> oh, no X
[04:32] <tofirius> what's the directory structure to find stuff on the desktop?
[04:32] <ana150> uuh hondjes sources.list, must have!
[04:32] <Mez> hondje
[04:32] <fr500> wget :p
[04:32] <flodine> please guy my suse 9.3 does 1900x1200 cant find anything for ubuntu
[04:32] <Mez> we're planning to helop them do,
[04:32] <xirtam> hondje: it's ok i get them with w3m ...
[04:32] <Mez> get their interest
[04:32] <xirtam> thx
[04:32] <Mez> then let them learn
[04:32] <hondje> xirtam: okay, wget works too
[04:33] <ana150> flodine: do you mean that ubuntu doesn't support as high resolution?
[04:33] <hondje> Mez: It's a noble plan, and will do good I hope :)
[04:33] <flodine> nope
[04:33] <Mez> so do i :d
[04:33] <ana150> flodine: so what do you mean?
[04:33] <blackgibson> torfirius: /home/(username)/Desktop
[04:33] <hondje> ubuntu can support that just fine
[04:33] <tofirius> blackgibson: oh cool.... thanks!!
[04:33] <Mez> I'm hoping it'll be significant enough to push me over the edge and help me be  amber
[04:33] <flodine> ana150
[04:33] <dark> mp_: you are ndiswrapper -i theinffile.inf right?
[04:33] <goye2cz> anyone out there have a solution to install a tascam us122 without taking several hours?
[04:34] <hondje> Mez: amber?
[04:34] <ana150> hondje: well it's just that you usually have to set higher resolutions manually
[04:34] <flodine> ana150 im stuck cant run ubuntu at 1900x1200
[04:34] <hondje> yeah, no dpkg--reconfigure--magic
[04:34] <Mez> a member
[04:34] <hondje> flodine: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <hondje> Mez: oh, okay
[04:34] <Razor-X> yeah, I found out the reason
[04:34] <Razor-X> Azureus uses too much RAM
[04:34] <martinjh99> flodine> Will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work?
[04:34] <hondje> flodine: go down to modes, and add that resolution where the rest are
[04:34] <ana150> hondje: damn, i was just saying same :D
[04:35] <mp_> dark: yea, i did ndis -i, if that's what u mean
[04:35] <blackgibson> goye2cz: you are trying to do (semi) pro audio on linux?
[04:35] <hondje> flodine: if you hardware can handle it, and it doesn't work, then you need to edit your horiz/vert setting in the monitor section to match your monitors
[04:35] <goye2cz> blackgibson: right.
[04:35] <goye2cz> blackgibson: checking out the options.
[04:35] <blackgibson> goye2cz: You are either very brave or very misguided my friend ;)
[04:35] <goye2cz> blackgibson: probably both.
[04:36] <dark> dark: you did -i the inf file though right? i guess prisma02.inf?
[04:36] <mp_> dark: yea
[04:36] <blackgibson> goye2cz: Pro audio is the ONLY reason i still dual boot
[04:36] <dark> err mp_: i see someone there with that same error message, mmk
[04:36] <goye2cz> blackgibson: what exactly is it that makes it so hard in linux? Hunting down drivers?
[04:36] <hondje> Sound in linux is a bunch of ugly hacks and work-arounds
[04:37] <djm62> not to mention the lack of pro software
[04:37] <blackgibson> goye2cz: actually it is a ( increasingly less bad ) lack of good user end software
[04:37] <hondje> well, good software can make ugly hacks invisible :)
[04:37] <goye2cz> blackgibson: well right now I'm using N-track on windows so I doubt it would be a step down as far as that goes.
[04:37] <hondje> but there'd be that software by now, I think, if sound wasn't so troublesome :-/
[04:38] <djm62> I keep hoping someone can use jack, ladspa and pygtk to make Reason in a couple of months
[04:38] <blackgibson> goye2cz: linux FINALLY has a low latency audio system comparale to ASIO, but as far as DAWs go.. ugh...
[04:38] <mads_> Hey all.  Trying to get WPA up and running on my ASUS M2400N laptop with a ipw2100 card.  Do any of you have experience with that?
[04:38] <blackgibson> goye2cz: Ardour would be great if it would stop crashing on my ass
[04:39] <goye2cz> huh... not sounding so promising.
[04:39] <hondje> how does video compare to windows?
[04:39] <dark> mp_: from what the ndiswrapper site says, you should try the drivers from the www.ralink.com.tw/supp-1.htm site
[04:39] <hondje> I haven't used it for anything in so many years, I have not a clue
[04:39] <blackgibson> goye2cz: Video is good....
[04:39] <blackgibson> er..
[04:39] <djm62> video shows moving images, windows just show you what's on the other side
[04:40] <blackgibson> hondje: video is in a far better state than audio
[04:40] <hondje> roger that, blackgibson
[04:40] <blackgibson> hell, Film GIMP is used in hollywood
[04:40] <mads_> I'm using the ipw2100 driver, should I use ndiswrapper instead?
[04:40] <blackgibson> forget what they changed the name to
[04:40] <djm62> cinepaint
[04:40] <hondje> I still do most of my dv stuff from my camera on the mac
[04:40] <blackgibson> cinepaint, thanks
[04:40] <hondje> kino is nice though
[04:40] <Howitzer> Can i use the Debian Fluxbox on Ubuntu?
[04:41] <hondje> Howitzer: even better, you can use the ubuntu fluxbox :)
[04:41] <Howitzer> Oo
[04:41] <Howitzer> ubuntu fluxbox exists?
[04:41] <djm62> hondje: do you run linux ppc?
[04:41] <hondje> Howitzer: Yessir
[04:41] <mp_> dark: hmm... the USB source code version in the linux section?
[04:41] <Howitzer> waar dan?
[04:41] <hondje> djm62: oh nooooooooo
[04:41] <hondje> the mini mac is the missus's, only for touching with camera-use
[04:41] <djm62> :) gotcha
[04:41] <Howitzer> op fluxbox.scourgeforce vind ik niets van Ubuntu
[04:42] <Howitzer> Oo
[04:42] <dark> mp_: well apparently that card has a different chipset, you might have to look into it a bit more, but the ndiswrapper site lists the drivers needed for alot of cards
[04:42] <djm62> Howitzer: use "apt-cache search fluxbox"
[04:42] <Howitzer> then why do you have a dutchies nme :/
[04:42] <blackgibson> goye2cz: check it.  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Tascam#matrix
[04:42] <hondje> Howitzer: fluxbox is in universe, apt-get install fluxbox fluxconf fbpager fbdesk should get you going
[04:43] <dark> mp_: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php
[04:43] <hondje> Howitzer: because ik bin het gekker snoodaard
[04:43] <dark> mp_: go to the first link, list
[04:43] <hondje> actually, my dutchie friends mutated my nick into hondje, and it's catchy, so I kept it
[04:43] <Howitzer> what the hell hondje  :x
[04:43] <Howitzer> lol
[04:43] <goye2cz> blackgibson: already been there. couldn't figure the site out.  I'm outta here. Thank all for the help.
[04:46] <fr500> oops
[04:46] <hondje> my blog (mostly trolling for hatemail), pictures, .debs I made, etc
[04:46] <fr500> sorry didnt mean to span
[04:46] <HawkeVIPER> dude, use pastebin
[04:46] <Howitzer> cool
[04:46] <Howitzer> give the url :D
[04:46] <fr500> HawkeVIPER, i copied one line only i thought
[04:46] <hondje> Howitzer: Don't like xs4all?
[04:46] <fr500> anyway, any ideas on what is wrong
[04:46] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[04:47] <Frafra> hi all
[04:47] <Howitzer> wth
[04:47] <HawkeVIPER> fr500, it might be the ipv6 thing
[04:47] <HawkeVIPER> disable that and try again
[04:47] <Frafra> how to transfer files from pc to tel by bluetooth?
[04:47] <mp_> dark: this may be useful info: (USA dlink site has wrong drivers!)  :-/
[04:47] <fr500> :[ how?
[04:47] <Howitzer> apt-get install fluxbox wmfrog fluxconf fbdesk fbpager
[04:47] <Howitzer>     <= only 800kb? Oo
[04:48] <CarlFK> Frafra - files or name/phone numbers?
[04:48] <Howitzer> Setting up fluxbox (0.9.11-1) ...
[04:48] <Howitzer> Setting up fluxconf (0.9.5-1) ...
[04:48] <Howitzer> Setting up wmfrog (0.1.6-2) ...
[04:48] <Howitzer> what do i have to do now?
[04:48] <Frafra> CarlFK: files
[04:48] <Howitzer> restart X?
[04:48] <dark> mp_: lol
[04:49] <Howitzer> ?
[04:49] <TokenBad> hondje, doing the killall eds worked great
[04:49] <TokenBad> thanks
[04:49] <Howitzer> anyone
[04:49] <hondje> Howitzer: It 'should' be in sessions menu in gdm
[04:49] <hondje> TokenBad: glad to hear it :)
[04:49] <Howitzer> ehh
[04:49] <CarlFK> Frafra - wow, you are 2 steps ahead of me - I didn't even know any phones supported that
[04:49] <TokenBad> yeah got sound in game now
[04:49] <hondje> TokenBad: you want to be lazy
[04:49] <swarm> I have found that kernel for amd64-k8 coming with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 isn't compiled for preemption. That could be the reason for input devices loss of interactivity during heavy /dev/hda I/O activities?
[04:49] <Howitzer> where the hell is my sessions menu in my gdm(?)
[04:49] <Howitzer> :/
[04:49] <Howitzer> oooooh
[04:49] <hondje> wait, n/m
[04:49] <Stino-> where can i find the file ifcfg-eth0, i need to use ip-aliassing
[04:49] <Howitzer> my login screen?
[04:50] <hondje> Howitzer: yeah, gdm
[04:50] <Howitzer> okay
[04:50] <TokenBad> no I was looking at websites trying to find info..but it didn't say stuff like that..it just was saying stuff like edit this conf file..
[04:50] <Howitzer> for waht does gdm stand?
[04:50] <HawkeVIPER> Stino-, /etc/network
[04:50] <TokenBad> and then log out and log back in
[04:50] <TokenBad> blah blah blah..
[04:50] <hondje> Howitzer: gnome desktop manager
[04:50] <Howitzer> okay
[04:50] <TokenBad> I did all that and it still wasn't working
[04:50] <Howitzer> bye bye
[04:50] <Stino-> HawkeVIPER: there's nothing like that in there actually
[04:50] <TokenBad> but none of the sites I went to said anything about killall
[04:51] <Stino-> HawkeVIPER might that be cause i use vmware
[04:51] <hondje> TokenBad: That's why I'm paid the big bucks ;-)
[04:51] <HawkeVIPER> you using vmware dhcp or static?
[04:52] <Stino-> HawkeVIPER: DHCP, should it be static?
[04:52] <hondje> hehe, that's funny
[04:52] <geetergod> Ok, i'll give money to whoever can help me get my sound working haha
[04:53] <hondje> not because it's a bad question, but because the first D means 'dynamic' :-)
[04:53] <TokenBad> hondje, heheh...you have advantage of been using ubuntu a while to..this is my 3rd day of using it
[04:53] <TokenBad> heheh
[04:54] <hondje> TokenBad: so I got 4.999 years on ya
[04:54] <TokenBad> hahahah
[04:54] <hondje> slight advantage ;-)
[04:54] <TokenBad> yeah I would say that
[04:54] <hondje> oh, and 2 years as a cedega subscriber
[04:54] <Ng> TokenBad: hopefully the first three of many :)
[04:54] <geetergod> "ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program."  I get MD5 mismatch errors
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> so i ponder what version is in apt
[05:00] <geetergod> HawkeVIPER, im in xchat
[05:00] <CarlFK> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 shows 2 breezy installs, different sizes - Is that a problem shomeone should know about?
[05:00] <HawkeVIPER> lsuactiafner, probably some back patched crap like with firefox
[05:00] <Rockett17> q
[05:00] <HawkeVIPER> have they fixed that cockup yet?
[05:00] <HawkeVIPER> ah, obviously not... i apt-get updated last night, and firefox is still 1.02
[05:00] <HawkeVIPER> ghey
[05:01] <Ng> 1.0.4 won't be going into hoary
[05:01] <Ng> once a stable release is out it only gets security and serious bug fixes
[05:01] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: 1.04 is on backports
[05:01] <ana150> nice, my pc got crashed
[05:01] <jeld> HawkeVIPER, use the useragent Luke! :)
[05:01] <HawkeVIPER> jeff25, does it display 1.04?
[05:01] <slept> I got a problem with the ubuntu debian-installer
[05:01] <HawkeVIPER> jeld, I am =)
[05:01] <lsuactiafner> HawkeVIPER : just get firefox from mozilla
[05:01] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: no you have to change the version
[05:02] <Ng> lsuactiafner: sticking with using packages from apt is always a good plan ;)
[05:02] <lsuactiafner> Ng  : its not.
[05:02] <hondje> Ng: You missed the orgy of marillat here earlier, before I left work
[05:02] <ana150> hmm, btw does anyone know why does firefox load more than "konqueor" or something like that it was
[05:02] <Howitzer> Oehhh
[05:02] <Ng> hondje: erk, sounds fun ;)
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> Ng, I prefer to compile the majority of stuff myself.  just can't be assed with FF
[05:02] <jeld> anyone knows about the state of us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:02] <geetergod> any other tips for my sound?
[05:02] <lsuactiafner> mplayer, gaim and firefox i will compile myself since the maintainers dont update to new releases
[05:02] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: just change the version and you're good to go
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> ana150, because firefox was designed for winblows?
[05:02] <Ng> lsuactiafner: why?
[05:02] <Howitzer> FluxBox is really smooth :/
[05:02] <Seveas> jeld, it gives md5sum errors sometime
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> jeff25, I will, on an off day
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> too busy
[05:02] <jeld> Seveas, yup
[05:03] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: it takes 2 seconds
[05:03] <lsuactiafner> export CFLAGS="-march=athlon-4 -O3 -pipe"
[05:03] <HawkeVIPER> jeff25, 2 seconds I don't have
[05:03] <Ng> lsuactiafner: FF 1.0.4 is pretty much identical to the 1.0.2 + fixes version that's in hoary
[05:03] <jeld> Seveas, is it gonna get fixed?
[05:03] <lsuactiafner> and packages compile every possible option in
[05:03] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: yeah uh huh
[05:03] <lsuactiafner> i dont need it
[05:03] <HawkeVIPER> I'm too busy fixing other people's shit to fix my own
[05:03] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: you should just run windows then
[05:03] <hondje> but I make them into debs and all that
[05:03] <HawkeVIPER> jeff25, um... no
[05:03] <lsuactiafner> and the mozzila binary works properly.. i trust the ppl who wrote the software to compile it
[05:03] <Seveas> jeld, there's an archive update in progress, so this will resolve automagically later..
[05:03] <Ng> hondje: an orgy of marillat, that sounds fun ;(
[05:04] <Howitzer> can i have links on my desktop in FluxBox?
[05:04] <HawkeVIPER> Howitzer, yes
[05:04] <HawkeVIPER> get fbdesk
[05:04] <Howitzer> or in the toolbar(a la Gnome)
[05:04] <hondje> Ng: I take partial blame, me and someone else were talking about my transcode .deb I made
[05:04] <jeld> Seveas, cool, thanx
[05:04] <Howitzer> i thought i apt-get 'ted it
[05:04] <HawkeVIPER> you need to start it
[05:04] <hondje> inspiration :)_
[05:04] <ana150> HawkeVIPER: okey, then the question is, why is firefox so great with linux, if it's even slower than other browsers?
[05:04] <Howitzer> doesn't it start on its own?
[05:04] <HawkeVIPER> ana150, because it has compatibility?
[05:04] <Howitzer> i love FF
[05:05] <hondje> it's way to slow
[05:05] <Howitzer> lol
[05:05] <HawkeVIPER> hondje, I agree
[05:05] <Howitzer> it isn't
[05:05] <Howitzer> oky
[05:05] <hondje> especially ubuntu's build, it's aweful
[05:05] <ana150> i like firefox with windows, but with linux i hate it
[05:05] <Seveas> ana150, slow dns lookups?
[05:05] <Ng> throw more CPU at the problem, it's nippy enough on a 2ghz amd64 ;)
[05:05] <ana150> i don't know but it sure is heavy
[05:05] <jeff25> ana150: well there is always lynx
[05:05] <HawkeVIPER> Howitzer, modify the fb exec script in .fluxbox/ to call fbdesk/fbsetbg/etc
[05:05] <HawkeVIPER> then it'll autostart
[05:05] <ana150> jeff25: i think links2 does better
[05:05] <HawkeVIPER> there's a howto floating around somewhere on the fb site
[05:05] <Howitzer> i admit, it is really slow on a 200mghz but even then i thought it was worth to wait 30 secs
[05:05] <hondje> I got cpu, I got memory...
[05:05] <jeff25> ana150: heh
[05:05] <ana150> :D
[05:05] <hondje> it just renders large pages poorly
[05:06] <ana150> links can handle frames and tables better than lynx imo
[05:06] <Howitzer> weird
[05:06] <Seveas> ana150, if 'looking up foo.bar.com' takes a long time try this:
[05:06] <Seveas> ana150: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[05:06] <hondje> I timed it the other day, it took 25 seconds to unfreeze and stop stealing cpu to render the apple-x86 thread on /.
[05:06] <Ng> hondje: I was using epiphany before and galeon before that and I think I'm going in the right direction ;)
[05:06] <Jormundgand> Howitzer: catenating SI modifiers is bad form. "megagigahertz" should be "terahertz". ;)
[05:06] <Howitzer> i can't find it anywhere in aps/tools
[05:06] <slept> its the warthy install which seems to have a bug - it hangs at libblkid1-udeb . I tryed with differnet cd's .
[05:06] <Howitzer> Oo
[05:06] <ana150> Seveas: okey i'll try that :)
[05:07] <slept> *installer*
[05:07] <mp_> dark: hmm.. same issue (invalid driver) akthough i use the original driver from the CD 8which i managed to find, since all dlinks' sites appear to have the wrong drivers!!)
[05:07] <Jormundgand> "Howitzer: i admit, it is really slow on a 200mghz but"
[05:07] <Howitzer> ooh
[05:07] <Howitzer> hmm
[05:07] <Howitzer> to be honest
[05:07] <Jormundgand> In fact, that would be 2 petahertz.
[05:07] <hondje> FF isn't that bad, but on ubuntu it's awful
[05:07] <Howitzer> wtf
[05:07] <Howitzer> it isn't :x
[05:08] <hondje> I get twice the performance from running FF on a box half as fast, through ssh -X, as I do from this one
[05:08] <Jormundgand> And I want to know A) how hot a 200PHz processor runs B) how much it costs. :)
[05:08] <Howitzer> FireFox just started and loaded 6 of my homepages in -1sec
[05:08] <hondje> maybe I got a bum pkg, then :-?
[05:08] <Howitzer> indeed
[05:08] <Howitzer> btw
[05:08] <Howitzer> i have the shittitest provider ever
[05:08] <Howitzer> so don't say its my i-net =:D
[05:09] <hondje> hehe
[05:09] <Seveas> hondje, usually it's the ipv6 dns crap that cause this...
[05:09] <ana150> Seveas: yeah, that really did work :), but is there something to speed up firefox starting?
[05:09] <hondje> Seveas: long disabled
[05:09] <Seveas> ana150, ENOIDEA
[05:09] <Seveas> hondje, hmm, ok :)
[05:09] <hondje> it revs at max cpu for a good 10 seconds on many large pages...
[05:09] <hondje> perhaps I should --reinstall
[05:09] <philipp_> Hi everybody I have a problem with ubuntu linux[hoary]  and my wlan card senao nl-2511 CD PLUS EXT2 [Prism 2 Chipset]
[05:09] <Seveas> hondje, can you give me an exaple url?
[05:10] <Howitzer> only,  wish i could get the toolbar show up ALWAYS, so it can't get covered if i rune something
[05:10] <Howitzer> yeah
[05:10] <Howitzer> it could also be the server
[05:10] <philipp_> the internet is working but iwlist eth2 scan gives me scanning is not supported by this device
[05:10] <lsuactiafner> philipp_ : slutty mode prolly not.. promiscious mode
[05:10] <Seveas> eth2
[05:10] <Seveas> you have 3 cards??
[05:10] <lsuactiafner> i got 3 also lol
[05:11] <lsuactiafner> you need to bridge em
[05:11] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: what does this mean? sorry my english is not so good
[05:11] <lsuactiafner> ana150 : prelink
[05:11] <HawkeVIPER> Howitzer: right click on the toolbar
[05:11] <hondje> Seveas: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/06/1752234&tid=118&tid=179&tid=3
[05:11] <HawkeVIPER> there's an option in the config to set on top
[05:11] <lsuactiafner> philipp_ : means your card refused to be a whore and to accept any packet passing by...  i think
[05:11] <spiderworm> anybody here play nexuiz?
[05:12] <Ng> hondje: that took about 6 seconds from the tab appearing to the spinner stopping and the page being ready
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> prelink rocks
[05:12] <Ng> maybe 7
[05:12] <Seveas> hondje, lol
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> Ng : thats fast
[05:12] <Howitzer> took me 4secs
[05:12] <Seveas> that just takes an hour to load
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> i wait more than a minute
[05:12] <ana150> hmm
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> on a 5k/s dailu
[05:12] <hondje> It's still going for me
[05:12] <Howitzer> lol
[05:12] <Ng> ouch
[05:12] <Seveas> since it's big
[05:12] <hondje> I took a screenshot, you can see hte borkage
[05:12] <ana150> any ideas how to set up wlan?
[05:12] <hondje> still going
[05:12] <Howitzer> hondje, specs? :D
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> btw adblock, sessionsaver and downloadsort extention plugins for firefox rock
[05:12] <dadan> whats basicly deferent betwen kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:13] <Seveas> hondje, but it loaded on my machine in < 5 seconds
[05:13] <hondje> 2.7GHz p4, 768 ram, nvidia card
[05:13] <Howitzer> you must have a 1600baud modem and a p133 =D
[05:13] <hondje> still going
[05:13] <Seveas> dadan, the default set of installed packages
[05:13] <Howitzer> lol
[05:13] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: I dont want to read every packet passing by but to see the wlans in range of my card, at the moment im not able to use the network-manager of ubuntu
[05:13] <dadan> :P
[05:13] <Howitzer> serious? :/
[05:13] <hondje> yeah
[05:13] <Howitzer> i have 256mb ram
[05:13] <Seveas> dadan, kubuntu by default installs KDE, ubuntu gnome
[05:13] <Ng> apart from disabling ipv6 the other performance thing I did to firefox was set nglayout.initialpaint.delay to 0 so it starts dynamic layout as soon as it receives some data
[05:13] <philipp_> i have to configure my card using iwconfig
[05:13] <lsuactiafner> Howitzer : p166 and a 45k baud connection atm
[05:13] <Rockett17> can someone post the generic xorg.conf for ubuntu so I can wget it and copy over my fucked up one
[05:13] <hondje> still not there
[05:13] <Howitzer> lol
[05:13] <Ng> hondje: that's pretty shocking ;)
[05:13] <Howitzer> 56kbyte?
[05:14] <Seveas> Rockett17, just do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <Ng> hondje: try moving your profile out the way and reinstalling ;)
[05:14] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: and the network applet is also not working
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> yeh, but it maxes @ 5k/s
[05:14] <Howitzer> hondje, re-install Ubuntu :x
[05:14] <hondje> just now done
[05:14] <Howitzer> lol
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockett17, it usualy makes a backup
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> Ng : prelink firefox
[05:14] <Howitzer> 17:11 you started
[05:14] <slept> Rockett17, you can overwrite it with md5sum look at top of the file (xorg.conf)
[05:15] <Ng> lsuactiafner: I have it running all the time, there's no need :)
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> same
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> browser stays open along with uptime
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> heh
[05:15] <Ng> prelinking only really improves the time it takes to start an application afaik
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> but living in a country where electricity goes out....
[05:15] <ana150> what was the kpgd command? :D i forgot it
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> Ng : yeh
[05:15] <hondje> Ng: here's the freaky part
[05:16] <Howitzer> argh
[05:16] <ana150> "kpgd" some thing like that what you use example to reconfigure locales
[05:16] <hondje> I have 3 desktops...I run firefox in the middle, terms and stuff in the left, and evolution/work stuff in the right
[05:16] <anirz_> when linux was started???
[05:16] <slept> should I file a bugreport for the warty installer ? Or isn't tat of intrest anymore, the hoary-installer works fine with that hardware .
[05:16] <Howitzer> the FluxBox toolbar keeps getting covered by maximized programs :x
[05:16] <Ng> ana150: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" maybe?
[05:16] <hondje> if I go from one to the firefox one, all you get is a frame, here's a pic
[05:16] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: iwconfig says that my card is in Mode:Ad-Hoc is that wrong?
[05:16] <hondje> http://www.hondje.net/~hondje/Screenshot.png
[05:16] <Ng> erk
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> man iwconfig
[05:17] <ana150> Ng: thanks much, ill have to write it down, so i won't forget that dpkg again
[05:17] <ana150> :D
[05:17] <hondje> see the CPU meter in the bottom right jump and pin to the top? :(
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> i got no idea, i got a v90 modem made in 1998
[05:17] <Ng> ana150: I hope that's the one you meant ;)
[05:17] <Howitzer> rofl
[05:17] <lsuactiafner>  17:12:59 up 1 day,  5:09, 17 users,  load average: 6.59, 6.76, 6.21
[05:17] <anirz_> how do i move to another room???
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> heh
[05:17] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: ok thank you anyway
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> nice -n -20 ripping a dvd
[05:17] <jeroen_> anirz_, /join #blabla
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> on a 3200+ amd64
[05:18] <Ng> hondje: how about with a fresh firefox profile?
[05:18] <hondje> So those app in that pic aren't on that desktop, they're on another, and it's all borked will FF is loading :-/
[05:18] <Razor-X> hmmm, why don't BitTorrent clients other than Azureus receive any speed on my machine?
[05:18] <anirz_> thankx jeroen_
[05:18] <dbernar1> woohoo, I am back in Linux!:)
[05:18] <hondje> Ng: same
[05:18] <Howitzer> Aaaaargh
[05:18] <Razor-X> hondje: that's why you don't use Firefox ;)
[05:18] <hondje> :)
[05:18] <Ng> hondje: hmm. when you get that frame, does it just sit there for ages then display?
[05:18] <anirz_> anyone can tell me how do i compile XMMS?
[05:18] <hondje> yeah, while CPU stays at 100
[05:19] <Razor-X> Azureus won't work, but it seems, nothing else will
[05:19] <Howitzer> how do i set it so that the FluxBox toolbar doesn't disappear when i put a program in maximized
[05:19] <Seveas> anirz_, why doy ou want to compile it?
[05:19] <fabian> Seveas, graphic works fine!
[05:19] <Razor-X> anirz_: it's probably like any other compile, as long as you have the libs
[05:19] <Seveas> fabian, nice :)
[05:19] <Thorrn4> hello HappyFool!! since I reloaded the kernel, GRUB works faster and 2 me, the applications load faster; thank you
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> if your firefox is giving shit disable java
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> also
[05:19] <Thorrn4> hello all
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> ummm
[05:19] <Ng> hondje: very bizarre
[05:19] <anirz_> Seveas, i am not getting the sound from XMMS
[05:19] <fabian> Seveas, I can't stop playing chromium! :D
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> dont open 400 tabs
[05:19] <Ng> hondje: might be worth reporting that as a bug, that is definitely not supposed to happen ;)
[05:19] <Seveas> anirz_, set the sound output plugin to esound then....
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> and allocate it enough ram
[05:20] <hondje> I thought it was :)
[05:20] <jeroen_> lsuactiafner, Fx sometimes also has problems with gplflash. That's a problem here, anyway
[05:20] <Ng> hondje: hehe
[05:20] <anirz_> what is the command for compile?
[05:20] <Seveas> anirz_, you do not need to compile it
[05:20] <lsuactiafner> vm.overcommit_memory = 1
[05:20] <philipp_> does anyone know about problems with the orinoco wlan driver if i do iwlist eth2 scanning i get eth2      Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported
[05:20] <lsuactiafner> sysctl -e vm.overcommit_memory = 1
[05:20] <hondje> hence my omfg ubuntofirefoxrt3hs8xxx
[05:20] <Seveas> anirz_, set the sound output plugin to esound then.... <-- do that and do not compile it
[05:20] <Seveas> compiling it yourself will not solve the problem
[05:20] <muehlbucks> what's the best place for periodic news about ubuntu?  i guess i'm hoping for something like the gentoo weekly newsletter
[05:20] <Seveas> muehlbucks, ubuntu-traffic
[05:21] <fabian> can anyone explain how chromium works? how can I win? I alway get shot!
[05:21] <anirz_> Seveas, let me try
[05:21] <Ng> hondje: if I flip to another desktop then back to that apple story there is a very short pretty small CPU blip and nothing else.
[05:21] <hondje> Ng: that one stays that way
[05:21] <Seveas> muehlbucks, search for ubuntu-traffic on the ubuntu website
[05:21] <hondje> lookiing at apps from before, not repainting
[05:21] <muehlbucks> Seveas: found it, sweet - thanks
[05:21] <anirz_> Seveas,  can u guide me?
[05:21] <ana150> hey anyone, how to start wlan set-up? i have added d-link's pci card and what next?
[05:22] <Varanger> crimsun: are you here?
[05:22] <hondje> Ng: thanks for letting me rant :)
[05:22] <Ng> hondje: np ;)
[05:22] <Ng> finding bugs is good :)
[05:22] <hondje> couldn't ever track it tough
[05:22] <Seveas> anirz_, open the xmms preferences with ctrl+p
[05:22] <hondje> nothing odd on strace, and I'm not a programmer :-/
[05:22] <anirz_> Seveas, there is Audoi I/O plugin
[05:22] <Seveas> look for lugins -> output plugins
[05:23] <Ng> I found a great one last night, sloppy focus really confuses nautilus when you rename some files. it's been bugging me for ages and I finally figured out what it was :)
[05:23] <anirz_> is that the one??
[05:23] <Seveas> and set it to Esound
[05:23] <Ng> hondje: if you make a bug report then the developers will guide you through gathering information if they need it :)
[05:23] <hondje> Ng: true
[05:23] <Ng> hondje: assuming it hasn't been reported already :)
[05:23] <Seveas> anirz_, i cannot guide you exactly, since i use beep-media-player instead of xmms (it's a better looking gtk2 port of xmms)
[05:23] <hondje> then again, they ignored my nautilus bug
[05:23] <hondje> :)
[05:24] <anirz_> Seveas, beep? can i download it?
[05:24] <Seveas> anirz_, sudo aptitude install beep-media-player
[05:24] <anirz_> Seveas,  i cant find esound here
[05:24] <hornsby> why don't you guys use amarok ? it rocks :)
[05:24] <Ng> hondje: doh ;)
[05:24] <anirz_> Seveas, which distro are you using???
[05:24] <Seveas> hornsby, amarok leads to KDE, KDE leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering
[05:25] <Seveas> anirz_, ubuntu of course :)
[05:25] <ana150> :D
[05:25] <hornsby> Seveas, more drama ?? :D lol
[05:25] <Seveas> ;)
[05:25] <ana150> Seveas: that's so true!
[05:25] <hornsby> Seveas, hey guys, I'm on KDE, and I dont have any trouble with it
[05:25] <anirz_> Seveas, :D i use sudo apt-get to install.. is it the same?
[05:26] <Seveas> hornsby, it's a matter of taste
[05:26] <hornsby> true
[05:26] <Seveas> anirz_, it's equivalent
[05:26] <anirz_> Seveas, okay :)
[05:26] <hornsby> anyway :)
[05:26] <hornsby> Seveas, you'r good poet :D
[05:26] <anirz_> hornsby, whats so special about amarock?
[05:26] <anacron> anirz_: if you don't even know that, you should read ubuntuguide.org, that helps a lot
[05:26] <Seveas> Amarok is quite a nice media player
[05:27] <hornsby> it is
[05:27] <Seveas> anacron, ubuntuguide sucks
[05:27] <anacron> anirz_: not amarok, i mean that sudo thing
[05:27] <Seveas> it contains crappy information
[05:27] <anacron> well it has helped me more than anyone in this channel
[05:27] <anirz_> anacron i am in the learning process.. so plz let me learn...:D.. no hard feeling
[05:27] <Seveas> anacron, then i hope you have not messed up too much :)
[05:27] <NicP> ubuntu guide has been really helpful to me
[05:27] <Varanger> ppl, do you remember a page where paste the contents of screen to avoid "flood"
[05:28] <Varanger> ?
[05:28] <Seveas> Varanger, ubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:28] <hornsby> anirz_, again, it's a matter of taste I guess but it's quite nice in general
[05:28] <Varanger> Seveas: you rule! thanx
[05:28] <anacron> anirz_: it's not that it's bad to ask thosekind of things, but you can learn those so easy if you just go to there
[05:28] <anirz_> hornsby, as u guys are saying... i better try it
[05:28] <anacron> easily*
[05:28] <hornsby> anirz_, right
[05:29] <Ng> the stuff on ubuntuguide should all be in the proper ubuntu wiki really imho
[05:29] <Seveas> Ng, it is, but better
[05:29] <anirz_> anacorn sometimes u get something so suddenly that u want to know it at that moment.. learning the OS is not reading book.. let it be practical
[05:29] <radddx> hey all
[05:29] <anacron> amarok's only nice feature is that thing which pop-ups at the top screen showing current track
[05:29] <Ng> Seveas: then the ubuntuguide people should be working on the wiki instead of their own site :/
[05:29] <NicP> anacron: i agree
[05:30] <NicP> ng: good point
[05:30] <Seveas> Ng, the ubuntuguide person isn't cooperative
[05:30] <hornsby> anacron, that's your point of view again
[05:30] <Ng> simply because fewer doc sites is better
[05:30] <kig_> why nautilus does not use standart unix case-sensitive sorting rules ? (eg. directory 'Mamba' apears later than directory 'auto')
[05:30] <anacron> we'll usually all opinions are :)
[05:30] <anacron> well*
[05:30] <hornsby> right
[05:30] <anirz_> hornsby, so it is "amarok" right
[05:30] <anacron> this is really bad fingers day
[05:30] <Seveas> kig_, you can make it do that
[05:31] <hornsby> anirz_, correct
[05:31] <anirz_> okay
[05:31] <anacron> hey anyone, what about my wlan?
[05:31] <kig_> Seveas: can you tell me how ?
[05:31] <radddx> I'm having trouble getting Gnome or Xorg to work properly. I'm using a Radeon 9250 with a 1600x1200 DVI lcd and the screen is just blank. Originally it was corrupted when I used the 'ati' driver, now using the 'fglrx' driver the screen is just black/blank. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[05:31] <slept> radddx, did you install linux-restricted-modules ?
[05:31] <radddx> no
[05:32] <radddx> will that help?
[05:32] <anirz_> slept, is it dangerous to install linux-restricted mod?
[05:32] <Ng> radddx: you want to do the ati section of http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:32] <reka> Ng: imho, i agree with Seveas about the wiki being better... problems with ubguide: [1]  it puts backports in it's sample sources.list [2]  lack of explanation for *many* of the topics e.g. see the configure sound properly one.
[05:32] <anacron> radddx: check out dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg also, that might help
[05:32] <Seveas> kig_, sorry, i thought you could, but apparently i'm wrong
[05:33] <anacron> ->
[05:33] <Seveas> reka, indeed, there are NO explanations at all
[05:33] <Seveas> and a lot of instructions are utter crap
[05:33] <Seveas> the java instructions being an excellent example of crap
[05:33] <radddx> anacron: yep already tried that but it didn't fix it
[05:33] <Ng> if people want to run their own sites that is up to them really, however unfortunate it is
[05:33] <slept> radddx, you need a kernel module you can find out your kernel version with uname -r and then install the right resrticted modules .
[05:33] <kig_> Seveas, no problem. Maybe that stuff cannot be changed, because ubuntu has very heavily modified nautilus :-)
[05:33] <radddx> Ng: thanks, I'll try those instructions
[05:34] <reka> Seveas: i wouldn't say it's useless, but it definitely could be improved... it *is* unofficial though.
[05:34] <b1rkoff> hiya
[05:34] <radddx> where would I go about finding instructions on which ones I need?
[05:34] <anirz_> what is the meaning of "sudo"??
[05:34] <Seveas> anirz_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:34] <slept> anirz_, the restricted modules are just not free I think
[05:34] <HawkeVIPER> superuser do
[05:35] <hornsby> anirz_, using root right
[05:35] <HawkeVIPER> it's a means of executing commands as root
[05:35] <HawkeVIPER> or
[05:35] <HawkeVIPER> for that matter
[05:35] <HawkeVIPER> any user you specify
[05:37] <Seveas> bon appetit!
[05:37] <anirz_> hornsby, yup
[05:37] <anirz_> hornsby, while installing its asking for the ubuntu cd..strange..???
[05:37] <destiny> not really strange, sorry just got here, what are you installing?
[05:37] <reka> slept: radddx only needs to install a restricted module if he is using the ati.com driver.  if he follows Ng's link, he won't need to install anything other than the xorg driver.
[05:37] <Seveas> anirz_, comment out the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:38] <Seveas> or use synaptic for that
[05:38] <Ng> anirz_: apt is configured to use the CD by default, you can disable it in synaptic's repositories config, or comment out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:38] <Ng> what Seveas said ;)
[05:38] <slept> reka, I  didn't look at that link
[05:39] <radddx> reka: I've tried installing that xorg driver, using apt-get then changing the xorg.conf from ati to fglrx but that gives me a blank screen. Will the 'echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules' fix that problem? that's the only step that I didn't do. Also, I've tried using the fglrxconfig utility but that did not fix anything either.
[05:40] <Seveas> radddx, yes, that will solve your problem
[05:40] <anirz_> Seveas, Ng how do i commenet out..?? just delete it??
[05:40] <reka> radddx: yes, you need to load the fglrx module
[05:40] <Seveas> and if you do not want to restart, type the following command too:
[05:40] <Seveas> sudo modprobe fglrx
[05:40] <Ng> anirz_: put a # in front of the whole line
[05:40] <Seveas> anirz_, that, or put a # before it
[05:40] <Seveas> like: #deb [cdrom etc...
[05:40] <anirz_> thankx
[05:40] <Ng> jinx! ;)
[05:40] <radddx> ok, thanks, I'll reboot and change the hdds over, hopefully be back in ubuntu =)
[05:41] <radddx> bye
[05:41] <Ng> anirz_: you'll need to tell synaptic to reload the package lists, or run "sudo apt-get update", then it won't ask for the CD again
[05:41] <anirz_> Seveas, it says cant open file to write..??/
[05:41] <reka> slept: no worries.
[05:41] <Seveas> anirz_, edit it as root
[05:41] <anirz_> okay
[05:41] <Seveas> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:42] <anirz_> Seveas, how do i do that?
[05:42] <anirz_> do i have to log in as root?
[05:42] <destiny> use the command he just typed
[05:42] <Ng> erk
[05:42] <anirz_> okay
[05:42] <Seveas> anirz_, type the command i gave you
[05:42] <Ng> Seveas: doing that kind of thing is a path to pain ime
[05:42] <Seveas> Ng, what kind of thing..?
[05:42] <Ng> Seveas: running graphical things with sudo, you can end up with stuff in your home directory chowned to root
[05:42] <anirz_> yup worked..
[05:43] <Seveas> Ng, i know. But gedit is safe
[05:43] <destiny> anirz_ then, once you have a # in front of the  cd line, save, close gedit, and do a sudo aptitude update
[05:43] <Ng> Seveas: yeah, that's fair enough, I'm just thinking it would be wise to encourage people to use the root terminal for that kind of thing, so they don't try it with something that isn't safe and break things ;)
[05:44] <ups> is there any way to burn a 800MB CD in ubuntu? using n-c-b with overburn enabled didnt work
[05:44] <anirz_> destiny, yes i have done it
[05:44] <anirz_> thankx
[05:44] <Seveas> Ng, newbies and terminal-based editors is not the best combination too :)
[05:44] <Ng> Seveas: hehe, this is very true ;)
[05:44] <destiny> ok, test if it works better now
[05:44] <Seveas> Ng, and imnsho root terminals are more evil than this :)
[05:44] <anirz_> Seveas, doesnot matter it i crash the system.....
[05:44] <anirz_> :D
[05:45] <Ng> Seveas: I mean just using the root terminal to run gedit, really
[05:45] <anirz_> *if i
[05:45] <Seveas> Ng, that is not possible
[05:45] <Seveas> Ng, the X server will not allow that
[05:46] <Stew2> Heyo, I've got a guy's machine, his name is dilkes, and I'm showing him how to setup Ubuntu Hoary. I've got the ISO on a RW CDrom, we booted up.. He's got 3 hard drives, the first has windows 98, the second two are blank, and are 850 megs a piece. Can I use LVM to put the second two together, thereby making one large 1.6 gig hard drive?
[05:46] <anirz_> Seveas, what are the windows managers that are available... KDE,GNOME Xfce .. and???
[05:46] <Seveas> Stew2, that is possible
[05:46] <Ng> Seveas: hmm. mine does, but I have quite a custom config. nevermind then ;)
[05:46] <Seveas> anirz_, fluxbox, e16 etc..
[05:47] <anirz_> okay
[05:47] <apollo2011> I am trying to compile WineX from source and I installed ok following the instructions at http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=cedegacvs and used the .wine directory available on the site but now I get the below error when I try to run a downloaded version of dcom98.exe:
[05:47] <apollo2011> > ksut@Playroom1-Ubuntu:~/Downloads$ wine dcom98.exe
[05:47] <apollo2011> > wine: chdir to /home/ksut/.wine/wineserver-Playroom1-Ubuntu : No such file or directory
[05:47] <Stew2> seveas: When I tried running LVM from the setup screens, it said there were no partitions available. What type do I have to make the partitions? I read the manual and it says '8e'
[05:47] <destiny> I like how he says one large 1.6 gig drive:)
[05:47] <Stew2> destiny hehe
[05:48] <destiny> nice
[05:48] <destiny> whos here?
[05:48] <Daehlie> big split
[05:48] <destiny> yup totally.
[05:49] <destiny> or we are in a small one:)
[05:49] <destiny> yay, gnome is installed, gonna go try that...
[05:49] <xoz> supernova explosion
[05:50] <ups> there they come :)
[05:50] <Stew2> seveas: Hey, did you get that last one right before the netsplit?yt:fvk_fran-connect PRIVMSG lin :yt:sagan.fvk_fran.net 477 joaopaulo #debian-br :[fvk_fran-info]  why register andridentify?  your IRC nick is how people know you.  http://fvk_fran.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[05:50] <lsuactiafner> anirz_ : its like the force
[05:51] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, go away??
[05:51] <quam> haha
[05:51] <xoz> implosion
[05:51] <Stew2> seveaz I got that far
[05:51] <wdh> braam_, can be a variety of reasons :)
[05:51] <Stew2> seveaz I used the manual partitioner.
[05:51] <wdh> s/braam_/Brad_c
[05:51] <lsuactiafner> ;p;
[05:51] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[05:53] <slept> server split ?
[05:53] <xoz> network split
[05:54] <b1rkoff> yeah why it happens ?
[05:54] <jon273> Why would ruby1.8 not be available with apt?
[05:54] <sandip> Somebody change the topic: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/faq/root = 404
[05:54] <flankk> netburst
[05:54] <Seveas`> stupid crappy servers...
[05:54] <Seveas`> anirz_, something goes wrong
[05:54] <Seveas`> sandip, i'll check it
[05:54] <Ubuntian> can someone help me on this: i filling the /etc/exports file for NFS, i typed "/home <IP_ADDRESS>(rw)" and when i "sudo exportfs -ra" it says "/home:invalid argument" , what's happening?
[05:54] <jon273> Why would ruby1.8 not be available with apt?
[05:54] <Stew2_> These netsplits are terrible
[05:54] <jon273> in case netsplit moved lats time too quick
[05:54] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, hmm i know that.. but u said its the cause of war... go away go away... all these things.. thats why i got confused
[05:54] <anirz_> ;P
[05:54] <dennis_> hello
[05:55] <jon273> has anybody install ruby?
[05:55] <Stew2_> What format does a partition have to be made with the manual partitioning option in Ubuntu setup so I can combine two partitions together with LVM?
[05:55] <mp_> erhhmm, where is "grub.config" located in ubuntu (not in /etc it seems)????
[05:55] <Ng> Stew2_: have you tried 8e?
[05:55] <Seveas> mp_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:55] <quam> jon, i tried, because i wanted gnome-art, but it wasn't available
[05:55] <Stew2_> Ng Nope. I just read about it in the manual.
[05:55] <xoz> Ubuntian: /etc/init.d/nfs-<servertype> restart
[05:56] <dennis_> has anyone enabled Wi-Fi in Ubuntu?
[05:56] <Ng> Stew2_: try 8e :)
[05:56] <quam> i have dennis
[05:56] <Seveas> dennis_, these words come to you over wifi :)
[05:56] <Stew2_> It doesn't say anywhere during the setup, so I was trying 'ext3' and other options
[05:56] <Ng> Stew2_: you'll need a /boot partition on one of the disks, that can't be on the LVM
[05:56] <jon273> It isn't available
[05:56] <dennis_> hehe
[05:56] <mp_> Seveas: aha! thx!
[05:56] <anirz_> what i can use as  C,C++ editors/compiler in linux??
[05:56] <jon273> can't it be more specific?
[05:56] <Ubuntian> xoz, server type?
[05:56] <dennis_> I could use some help guys
[05:56] <dennis_> if you have some time
[05:56] <Stew2_> Ng How big does the boot partition need to be?
[05:56] <Ng> Stew2_: I'm not 100% sure it's supported to install like that, but if it is, 83 would be the type to go for
[05:56] <jon273> anirz_, anjuta
[05:56] <rommer> anirz_: gcc
[05:56] <lsuactiafner> anirz_ : apt-get install build-essential
[05:56] <anirz_> jon273, is it a compiler or editor?
[05:56] <destiny> Gnu Compiler Collection
[05:56] <SeamusLP> anirz_:  I just use gedit and gcc ;)
[05:57] <xoz> what nfs are you using in /etc/init.d/ ?
[05:57] <jon273> anirz_, it's an ide. An editor, but it uses gcc to compile
[05:57] <lsuactiafner> and apt-get build-dep package ; before you build a package from source
[05:57] <BoD_SWAT> Anyone in here own a Pioneer DVD drive? (with ubuntu installed?) My computer doesn't recognize the drive... help!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516
[05:57] <anirz_> okay jon273 thgankx
[05:57] <Ubuntian> xoz, errr lemme check
[05:57] <Ng> Stew2_: doesn't need to be huge, mine is only using about 10mb, but you want to allow plenty of space for installing other kernels and things, so maybe 50-100mb should do it I would think?
[05:57] <destiny> BoD_SWAT wow, I heard that before, ask bob2 at some point when you catch him, if you dont get help by then.
[05:58] <xoz> Stew2_: 100mb is safe
[05:58] <lsuactiafner> 100mb is way too safe
[05:58] <dennis_> I am using Gateway 4024 laptop, and the built-in Wi-Fi is not recognized
[05:58] <lsuactiafner> thats like 50 kernels
[05:58] <dennis_> but I also have a PCMCIA Netgear cart
[05:58] <dennis_> card*
[05:58] <Stew2_> Ng So I make a partition of /boot of type ext3, 50 mb shall we say, and the rest of the physical hard drive space I make an '8e' partition. The other empty hard drive I make the entire thing '8e', does this sound correct?
[05:58] <BoD_SWAT> destiny, why? Does bob2 have such an drive and a solution? Just in case: does he have an alternate nickname?
[05:58] <Ng> my ubuntu box at work has 26mb in /boot
[05:58] <xoz> 100mb is cheap
[05:58] <quam> dennis, i had to use ndiswrapper to get mine working
[05:59] <dennis_> quam, where can I get more information on this?
[05:59] <Stew2_> xoz The two hard drives in question are 850 megabytes each.
[05:59] <Stew2_> Fairly small.
[05:59] <Ng> Stew2_: if it's going to work, yes, that is how you want it arranged :)
[05:59] <destiny> BoD_SWAT dunno about alternate nickname, he is bob2 here, and in #debian, I think he will know, I believe he was talking about a pioneer dvd drive the other day.
[05:59] <xoz> then 20mb
[05:59] <quam> i think there are two packages available with apt-get, ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper-tools or something similar
[05:59] <lsuactiafner> you dont need a boot partition
[05:59] <anirz_> i guess swap partition depends on the size of the RAM
[05:59] <BoD_SWAT> destiny, by the way. Thanks for the information :-)
[05:59] <Ng> Stew2_: just keep an eye on the /boot, old kernels aren't always removed after upgrades, so it will fill up slowly
[05:59] <lsuactiafner> you need 1 partiion for / and one for swap
[05:59] <xoz> Stew2_: make it 5-mb
[05:59] <xoz> Stew2_: make it 50mb
[06:00] <lsuactiafner> noo he doesnt need a boot partition.......
[06:00] <Stew2_> Do I have to know anything else about setting up the two hard drives to install ubuntu?
[06:00] <Ng> ooh yes, and a swap partition, my bad
[06:00] <destiny> BoD_SWAT that may help, really. welcome.
[06:00] <Stew2_> lsuactiafner, I have two hard drives, that's it, and a bootable Hoary Ubuntu install cd.
[06:01] <dennis_> quam, is your wireless connection encrypted?
[06:01] <quam> no, i was too lazy to turn that on
[06:01] <lsuactiafner> yeh so put a 1G swap on one disk, and make the rest ext2 or 3 and the other disk just a linux native
[06:01] <destiny> stew.........thaqts gonna be a tight install, are you just gonna do a server install, a minimal one?
[06:01] <Stew2_> ng How do I arrange the other partitions within the LVM? One as / exfs3 and the other as /swap?
[06:01] <Ng> lsuactiafner: he wants to install to LVM, so grub needs a seperate /boot to read the kernel from
[06:01] <lsuactiafner> ppl really, either in or out.. stop join flooding.. bastards..
[06:01] <lsuactiafner> jks.
[06:01] <xoz> lsuactiafner: /lastlog Stew2_
[06:01] <lsuactiafner> hmmk
[06:01] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, stop it...
[06:01] <Amaranth> main rotation server died
[06:02] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : what making fun of netsplits?
[06:02] <Ng> Stew2_: no, the swap needs to be a normal partition on one of the disks like the /boot one, sorry, I didn't think of that the first time
[06:02] <BoD_SWAT> ooo.... netsplits/joins :-/\
[06:02] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, yes and creating noise with it...
[06:02] <Ng> Stew2_: how much RAM is in the machine?
[06:02] <Ubuntian> xoz, where can i find the server type i don't see it in /etc/init.d ?
[06:02] <SeamusLP> lsuactiafner yeah man, those bastards are conspiring to ruin our discussions!
[06:02] <Stew2_> Ng lsuactiafner I'll go try it out. Meanwhile I hope the spilts stop
[06:02] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[06:02] <Ubuntian> xoz,  i see NFS but not the type
[06:03] <xoz> Ubuntian: you have to install nfs-<server> to be able to export your home
[06:03] <lsuactiafner> ):
[06:03] <anirz_> stew2_ was pissed off...lol
[06:03] <Ubuntian> xoz, i did
[06:03] <xoz> Ubuntian: /etc/init.d/nfs restart?
[06:03] <Ubuntian> k
[06:04] <jon273> So what do i do if Ruby isn't available?
[06:04] <anirz_> hey guys.. my NTFS partition is mounting but a FAT32 partition is not mounting...
[06:04] <xoz> anirz_: explain more...
[06:04] <Ubuntian> xoz, ok there are two nfs common and nfs kernel do i restart both?
[06:04] <xoz> Ubuntian: pick your choice.
[06:04] <xoz> Ubuntian: only one
[06:05] <anirz_> xoz, i read the wiki page on how to mount MSWindows Partition.. i managed to partition the NTFS partition.. where i have my XP.. but i want to mount a FAT32 partition .. which is not happening
[06:06] <slept> Ubuntian,  /etc/init.d/nfs-user-server restart
[06:06] <lsuactiafner> anirz_ : mount -t vfat /dev/partition /mnt/moun_point
[06:06] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, complicated..
[06:07] <anirz_> explain plz
[06:07] <SeamusLP> anirz_ that's why you have an /etc/fstab to do this for you
[06:07] <slept> Ubuntian , but the server updates automatically after some time , just try to mount it that  should work
[06:07] <lsuactiafner> anirz_ : mount -t vfat /dev/device /mnt/where_you_want_to_mount
[06:07] <lsuactiafner> mkdir /mnt/where_you_want_to_mount
[06:08] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, i have followed as it was mentioned in the wiki page.. i made dir...but somehow its not working.. anyways let me check again
[06:08] <Ubuntian> slept, but it says /home: Invalid argument
[06:08] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, i will ask u again... brb in a minute
[06:09] <xoz> anirz_: check the permission. be root before mount to be sure you have all the power to mount
[06:09] <slept> Ubuntian, nfs= network file system
[06:09] <Ubuntian> i knew that thanks
[06:09] <slept> Ubuntian, mount -t nfs IP:/path /mountpoint
[06:10] <anirz_> xoz whats the command to be root??
[06:10] <xoz> anirz_: su
[06:10] <xoz> or sudo if you configured it
[06:10] <Ng> if he hasn't set a root password, su won't work, surely
[06:10] <xoz> root is the first to be set
[06:11] <Ubuntian> slept, after editing the export file, when i type exportfs -ra it says "/home invalid argument...
[06:11] <anirz_> xoz su: Authentication failure
[06:11] <anirz_> Sorry.
[06:11] <Ng> xoz: erm, not in ubuntu ;)
[06:11] <xoz> ah, tried sudo?
[06:11] <slept> Ubuntian, I never did a exportfs -ra, youst try to mount from the other machine it should work
[06:12] <xoz> Ubuntian: try exportfs ... without -ra
[06:12] <Ubuntian> well i tried already
[06:12] <Ubuntian> k
[06:12] <Ng> anirz_: do you know which partition it is you want to mount?
[06:12] <jon273> why the hell won't anything ruby-like install using apt?
[06:12] <slept> Ubuntian, whats the error for that
[06:12] <anirz_> ~$ sudo
[06:12] <anirz_> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[06:12] <anirz_> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid]
[06:12] <anirz_>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[06:12] <anirz_> ng yes i know
[06:13] <Ng> anirz_: ok, have you made a mount point for it?
[06:14] <Ng> anirz_: I'm just trying to find out where abouts it is that its failing, if you ahve any error messages that would be helpful ;)
[06:14] <Ubuntian> slept, can't remember, will do it again
[06:14] <magog> guys i have a serious problem, my video is giving out, games jus crash and apps too, firefox will close for no reason, in windows and linux....how can i determine what the issue is?
[06:14] <slept> Ubuntian, are you using the nfs-kernel-server ? I don't even have the exportfs command
[06:15] <anirz_> ng ok.. let me help in this one.. hda0 for floppy right..?
[06:15] <xoz> Ubuntian: try /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[06:15] <anacron> magog: logs might help :)
[06:15] <xoz> Ubuntian: try /etc/init.d/nfs-user-server stop
[06:15] <Ng> anirz_: fd0 is floppy
[06:15] <magog> anacron, the system log doesent log the crahses
[06:15] <magog> i looked already
[06:15] <Ng> anirz_: hd means hard disk (IDE usually)
[06:16] <Ng> anirz_: if you run "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal it will list all partitions on all hard disks in your system
[06:16] <xoz> magog: hardware? cpu? ram? give us info... we cannot read your mind
[06:16] <anirz_> ng ok fd0.. now i have xp in C in MS language.. i want to mount D
[06:16] <anirz_> Ng so 'D" should be hda2 right?
[06:16] <magog> xoz, thats my point...i dont know what hardware is casuing this, i think its either cpu or video...i got 1gb ram
[06:16] <magog> and its new
[06:17] <Ng> anirz_: maybe, run the fdisk command I pasted above, it will show you the FAT partition and the start of the line will tell you which /dev/ entry to use
[06:17] <xoz> magog: lspci ... tell us more info
[06:17] <anirz_> Ng: i have 1 NTFS 3 FAT 1 Swap and 1 ext3 partition
[06:17] <magog> xoz lpsi?
[06:17] <xoz> magog: what is your cpu? etc.... video?
[06:17] <magog> ok
[06:17] <Ng> anirz_: ok, D should be the lowest numbered of the FAT partitions I would think
[06:17] <xoz> magog: try lcpci in command prompt
[06:18] <xoz> magog: lspci
[06:18] <magog> nvidia geforece 4 5200, pentium 4 2.4ghz 1gbram
[06:18] <magog> k
[06:18] <xoz> magog: blame nvidia... that's my bet.
[06:18] <Ubuntian> slept, both are installed the nfs kernel server and the nfs common
[06:19] <Ng> anirz_: "sudo mkdir /mnt/fatdrive" will make a mount point for it, then try "mount -t vfat /dev/hdNX /mnt/fatdrive" (replace hdNX with hda2 or whatever it was the fdisk output said), if it doesn't work, tell me the error and run "tail /var/log/syslog" and see if there are any errors in there
[06:19] <magog> xoz, video could cause normal apps to crash too? if its video im in luck..i can get that replaced for free but if its cpu im kinda screwed
[06:19] <xoz> Ubuntian: try the kernel.
[06:19] <Ng> anirz_: if it works then you can turn it into a line in /etc/fstab and it will be mounted every time you boot
[06:19] <Ubuntian> k
[06:19] <anirz_> ng okay
[06:19] <xoz> magog: try memory test... memtest
[06:20] <magog> command not found
[06:20] <xoz> magog: it is one culprit of random crashes
[06:20] <Ng> magog: the package name is memtest86+ and you need to reboot to run it from the boot menu after it is installed
[06:20] <magog> ah,ok
[06:21] <slept> Ubuntian, I don't know about the kernel server , I use the user server which works out of the box edit exports and thats all you need to do
[06:21] <angelo> hello al
[06:21] <angelo> l
[06:21] <angelo> anyone have a Kubuntu linux ?
[06:21] <xoz> Ubuntian: try starting the kernel server... it's faster and stable. then check exportfs
[06:21] <Ubuntian> slept, if only that could work it's getting on my nerves
[06:22] <froh> i haver troubles starting samba, if samba is started after cupsys (by init), it fails to start
[06:22] <BurgerMann> Hi, I have a basic linux question. I'm developing webpages. Since I have my own user 'burgermann' and my websrv-user 'apache' I find it quite annoying when Apache isn't authorized to save my burgermann-owned files and vice versa
[06:22] <slept> Ubuntian, is there a special reason why you want to use the kernel server ?
[06:22] <froh> if sastarted interactively it starts ok
[06:22] <Ubuntian> slept, no
[06:22] <Ubuntian> what's the quick way to find one's IP number on the LAN?
[06:22] <Ng> BurgerMann: you could leave all the web files/directories owned by apache and add yourself to the apache group so you can access them
[06:23] <dennis_> does anyone know how to check kernel version from CLI?
[06:23] <xoz> BurgerMann: add your user to the group of apache
[06:23] <slept> Ubuntian, if you remove the kernel server and install the user-server you can keep your exports
[06:23] <slept> Ubuntian, ifconfig
[06:23] <Pithlit> Ubuntian: the quickest? ask them
[06:23] <froh> Ubuntian: ifconfig ?
[06:23] <Ubuntian> k
[06:23] <BurgerMann> Oh, actually tried but did find it working
[06:23] <[MilMazz] > Hello, i'm trying to install libpng3-dev because i need to compile enlightenment DR17. The problem is i get an error while trying to install libpng3-dev. MD5Sum mismatch
[06:23] <BurgerMann> I'll try again
[06:23] <Ng> BurgerMann: you might need to put more group permissions on the files in that case
[06:24] <xoz> dennis_: uname -a ?
[06:24] <stjepan> hello from Ubuntu
[06:24] <dennis_> thanks xoz
[06:24] <anirz_> ng : i have given these two lines.. is it valid..:/dev/hda5       /mnt/winD       vfat    defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[06:24] <anirz_> /dev/hda6       /mnt/winE       vfat    defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[06:24] <BurgerMann> Ng, the group permissions should be 7
[06:24] <Ng> BurgerMann: that should be ok then, check that's on the directories too
[06:25] <Ng> anirz_: those look ok, assuming hda5 and 6 are the correct partitions
[06:25] <Ubuntian> ok i understand what's happening, i have DHCP set, and my IP number changed from yesterday, yesterday it was 5 today it's 1 ...
[06:25] <Ubuntian> no wonder NFS didn't work
[06:25] <slept> Ubuntian, :)
[06:25] <xoz> Ubuntian: cannot contact the ip?
[06:26] <anirz_> okay
[06:26] <wizzard> does anybody know where can I get apt-get source for Krita? (KOffice graphics program)
[06:26] <Ubuntian> so to share a printer if u have DHCP u have to change the settings everty time u use it cose the IP number might change ?
[06:26] <anirz_> Ng hda5 is mounting but not hda6..
[06:26] <xoz> Ubuntian: edit /etc/dhclient.conf
[06:27] <Ng> anirz_: "sudo tail /var/log/syslog" - any obvious errors in there?
[06:27] <Ubuntian> omg
[06:27] <anirz_> Ng.. its working now
[06:27] <xoz> Ubuntian: or the dhcp server config... to suggest that you like a particular ip... fixed ip
[06:27] <Ng> anirz_: ok :)
[06:27] <anirz_> i was typing something wrong
[06:27] <anirz_> thank u ng
[06:27] <Ng> anirz_: np :)
[06:28] <Ubuntian> and i thought this would be a walk in the park to set up (file sharing and printer sharing)
[06:28] <[MilMazz] > somebody has had the same problem? -> MD5Sum mismatch via apt-get...
[06:28] <anirz_> Ng: why i am not getting soung in XMMS>
[06:28] <xoz> Ubuntian: printing is *hell* to config in linux
[06:28] <slept> Ubuntian, if you don't whant to look for your ip you can use samba (especially for a printer , for filesharing I prefer nfs)
[06:28] <Seveas> [MilMazz] , the us.archive.ubuntu server is bugging
[06:28] <slept> xoz, ?
[06:28] <Seveas> [MilMazz] , use archive.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <[MilMazz] > Ok! i'll try...
[06:29] <Ubuntian> slept, well i will setup the router so as to have a fixed ip
[06:29] <quam> anirz, ctrl+v, go to the output and try using esound instead of alsa or oss
[06:29] <Ng> anirz_: I'm not sure about sound stuff, I have a card that does a lot of stuff for ubuntu, but I think you might want to install/use the esound output plugin for xmms
[06:29] <Seveas> but i only print local or via ssh :)
[06:29] <Ubuntian> xoz, yesterday the printer worked fine, but my ip changed today so it doesn't anymore, funny stuff
[06:30] <Ng> anirz_: others may know better though
[06:30] <anirz_> NG okay
[06:30] <Chameleon22> hi all, just did apt-get phpdoc and it installed and all, but trying to run it on a script and i cant bloodey find the executable
[06:30] <slept> xoz, what kind of printer do you have - canon?
[06:30] <Ng> anirz_: at least try the oss, alsa and esound/esd output plugins :)
[06:30] <Seveas> Ubuntian, heh, stuff like printer sharing needs wins or static IPs
[06:30] <Ubuntian> Seveas, didn't know that
[06:30] <anirz_> quam, there is no Esound...
[06:30] <psychonate> is it hard to set up a wireless access point?
[06:30] <xoz> fuji xerox
[06:30] <Ubuntian> should have guessed it though
[06:30] <xoz> slept: ^^
[06:31] <Seveas> psychonate, not really
[06:31] <stjepan> do you know any small and fast browser?
[06:31] <Ubuntian> well i've got to go back to work, fixed ip then printer setup, then NFS setup, :-)
[06:31] <Seveas> stjepan, links2
[06:32] <Seveas> starting it with links -g even gives you images :)
[06:32] <quam> anirz_: might need to install it, open the synaptic package manager, search for esound
[06:32] <Ubuntian> thanks guys (i assume there is no gilrs in here right?)
[06:32] <anirz_> quam, ok
[06:32] <psychonate> ...sorta sexist
[06:32] <Th4tBa5t4rd> stjepan... try Lynx it's text only though
[06:32] <geetergod> Think anybody can help me with my sound?
[06:32] <stjepan> ah
[06:32] <Ubuntian> girls*
[06:32] <Seveas> Ubuntian, unfortunately there are few to no girls in these kind of channels
[06:32] <Seveas> Th4tBa5t4rd, links is better than lynx :)
[06:32] <xoz> Ubuntian: no. all girls mimicking boys
[06:33] <stjepan> do you know any like dillo?
[06:33] <Th4tBa5t4rd> are the .us repositories still down? or did i break something?
[06:33] <Seveas> Th4tBa5t4rd, still down
[06:33] <reka> geetergod: what problems?
[06:33] <Amaranth> use uk.archive.ubuntu.com or just archive.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <Th4tBa5t4rd> good good. well. actually bad. but glad i didn't mess anything up
[06:34] <geetergod> reka, my sound did work and i must've did something, now it keeps saying something else is opened
[06:35] <geetergod> reka, any ideas?
[06:35] <reka> geetergod: you could try: killall esd
[06:35] <quam> anirz_: find it in the package manager?
[06:35] <geetergod> reka, that never works
[06:36] <slept> how can I Change encoding for smbtree
[06:36] <geetergod> esd: no process killed
[06:36] <bpuccio> Th4tBa5t4rd: I have a mirror of archive in the US up if you'd like, but its i386 and binary only, no source, no PPC and no AMD64
[06:37] <Th4tBa5t4rd> it's cool. i just wondered. there's nothing i really NEED at the moment, but that you for the offer
[06:37] <geetergod> reka, any idears?
[06:37] <misfit> what's with all these netsplits today?
[06:37] <Th4tBa5t4rd> we should see if playboy.com would put up a mirror ;-)
[06:38] <bpuccio> rofl
[06:38] <reka> geetergod:http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:38] <anacron> is there wlan problems too?
[06:38] <anacron> or how to set-up wlan guide?
[06:39] <anacron> i can't check it out with this computer right now
[06:39] <reka> geetergod: could you elaborate on the error? or is that all it tells you?
[06:39] <geetergod> reka, i had sound yesterday then someone tried helping me get my surround sound to work, now i cant get any sound out of anything..
[06:40] <Th4tBa5t4rd> http://mirrors.playboy.com/ they mirror FC, and FreeBSD... so you know, why not?
[06:41] <reka> geetergod: [1]  check volume levels/other sound settings.  [2]  using gnome?  if none of the options on that link work, use this http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly.  i fixed my sound problems using that method, but i'd use it as a last resort because there is a chance it may make things worse.
[06:41] <stjepan> where can I download a FLTK port of dillo?
[06:42] <anirz_> quam : esound is installed
[06:42] <quam> try switching to that in xmms and see if you get sound
[06:43] <stjepan> do you know?
[06:43] <stjepan> do you use dillo?
[06:44] <nalioth> stjepan: what is a fltk port of dillo? i know what dillo is, but what is the difference?
[06:44] <wizzard> pls, how can I add a source for an unstable KOffice to my apt-get config file<
[06:44] <stjepan> nalioth, it uses fltk
[06:44] <anirz_> quam, i cant find esound in xmms..
[06:44] <stjepan> 2.0
[06:45] <nalioth> stjepan: suposed to make it quicker?
[06:45] <anirz_> quam: i am getting the sound..
[06:45] <quam> are you?
[06:45] <nalioth> wizzard: with a text editor. /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:46] <quam> so if you're getting sound, dont worry about finding esound in xmms :P
[06:46] <wizzard> yeah, but I did not find any suitable source
[06:46] <stjepan> nalioth, maybe
[06:46] <stjepan> nalioth, look at dillo faq
[06:46] <raptoid> yupp
[06:46] <anirz_> hey gotta go guys... thank you all for ur help..Ng, quam..
[06:47] <quam> sorry couldn't help more
[06:47] <nalioth> stjepan: perhaps you could compile from source, specifying --with-fltk
[06:47] <stjepan> do you know any other browser?
[06:47] <anirz_> quam: i am getting the sound..
[06:47] <nalioth> stjepan: any other browser to do what?
[06:49] <stjepan> nalioth, small and fast browser
[06:50] <ups> anyone know how to burn a 800MB CD in ubuntu?
[06:50] <slept> damn , got a kernel panic right after install - unable to mount rootfs - I hate that machine . First the warty installer didn't work and now that :(
[06:50] <slept> ups, do you already have an .iso ?
[06:51] <ups> no, but i can make one
[06:51] <Pithlit> stjepan: tried Amaya ?
[06:51] <nalioth> stjepan: graphical? cuz i like console browsers for speed
[06:51] <Pithlit> ehhh... too late
[06:52] <reka> nalioth: text-only eh?  what do you use?
[06:52] <nalioth> the phone never stops ringin'
[06:52] <ups> slept, any suggestions?
[06:52] <slept> ups, cdrecord  -overburn file.iso, you might need an dev=ATAPI:/dev/hd..
[06:52] <geetergod> reka, i dunno, i cant get nothin to work
[06:53] <geetergod> reka, i didnt go through that process on the page, it wasnt working just right so i stopped
[06:53] <reka> geetergod: tried all my suggestions?
[06:53] <slept> ups, you can make the iso with  mkisofs
[06:53] <ups> slept, thanks, but n-c-b failed to work with the overburn option... do u think that will?
[06:53] <nalioth_wrkn> reka i compiled links from twibright labs, with graphics and javascript support and boy is it quick
[06:53] <Deffy> Hello
[06:53] <Pithlit> hi
[06:54] <trauma> Hi
[06:54] <slept> ups, what is n-b-c ?
[06:54] <ups> slept, i only have one 800MB cd left now... so wanna be sure :)
[06:54] <Deffy> how is everyone?
[06:54] <geetergod> reka, when i try playing something in xmms i get Please Check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the soundcard.
[06:54] <matjan_> hello, i installed ubuntu yesterday and all went pretty fine... however, i get a warning when i log in... it says this:
[06:54] <ups> slept, nautilus-cd-burner
[06:54] <matjan_> Could not look up internet address for linux-ubuntu. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding linux-ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.
[06:54] <matjan_> what is wrong?
[06:54] <trauma> well, add linux-ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts
[06:54] <reka> nalioth_wrkn: i've never used a text browser, are links followed sort of like the 'info' system?
[06:54] <trauma> and see what it does
[06:54] <geetergod> reka, and when i try watching a video inTotem i get 'ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program.
[06:55] <psychonate> heh
[06:55] <reka> geetergod: change the output plugin in xmms to esound or alsa
[06:55] <JayLv99> Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?
[06:55] <matjan_> trauma: how to do that? i looked in /etc/hosts... and now it says: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[06:55] <slept> ups, don't know much about nautilus - I use xfce
[06:55] <Deffy> just downloaded the LiveCD, liked what I saw and now downloading the full version but I do have a question
[06:55] <matjan_> trauma: what ip-address do i give to linux-ubuntu?
[06:56] <trauma> simply add the line: linux-ubuntu
[06:56] <Pithlit> Deffy: just ask
[06:56] <matjan_> that's all??
[06:56] <geetergod> reka, its on ALSA 1.2.10 output plugin [libALSA.so]
[06:56] <trauma> I don't know
[06:56] <reka> geetergod: the totem problem is because you opened another program that uses sound, ubuntu only lets you use one at a time in its default config iirc.
[06:56] <trauma> it's only what I would try
[06:56] <trauma> you never know
[06:56] <Funzo> is there any documentation on out of the box supported wifi cards?
[06:56] <Pithlit> matjan_: try and see what happens
[06:56] <ups> slept, ok. but are u sure cdrecord with -overburn will be able to burn 800MB disc?
[06:56] <reka> geetergod: you wouldn't be using xmms and totem at the same time would you?
[06:56] <JayLv99> Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?
[06:56] <geetergod> no
[06:56] <geetergod> reka, no
[06:56] <matjan_> alright, i guess i'll try that then
[06:57] <trauma> good luck
[06:57] <psychonate> My friend gave me an old Dell Optiplex 900mhz celeron that he wasn't using. Well, it has two free PCI slots because it has onboard video, sound, NIC; however, Dell does not want you to add cards that easily; (I assume they want you to buy a whole new PC from them rather than upgrade it yourself.) so, they have the slots blocked off with some metal.
[06:57] <Deffy> I am using a wifi connnection with a USB Wifi thingy, now it didn't seem to work with the LiveCD, is there anything I'll have to do in the full version to get it to work?
[06:57] <slept> ups, I'm not sure -I never tried it , but cdrecord should do it
[06:57] <matjan_> thanks
[06:57] <Funzo> or can anyone reccomend a cheap usb wifi card that is supported under ubuntu
[06:57] <psychonate> well, this did not phase me
[06:57] <reka> geetergod: hmmm, have you restarted the computer?
[06:57] <keltos> i got a realplayer 10 prob, where can i get help?
[06:57] <Pithlit> Deffy: prolly recompile the kernel
[06:57] <psychonate> I got some heavy-ass bolt cutters
[06:57] <geetergod> reka, yes
[06:57] <psychonate> ripped that damn metal off
[06:57] <Pithlit> Deffy: if it is at all supported
[06:57] <psychonate> two free PCI slots now heh
[06:57] <Pithlit> Deffy: gimme the model number
[06:58] <reka> geetergod: ok, one of the 1st things i do after ubuntu install is to install totem-xine
[06:58] <JayLv99> Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?
[06:58] <gskillet> I pulled my wireless network card out of the port on my laptop to read a number off of it, and it removed eth1 from my Network settings, and upon re-insertion of the card (and reboot) it has not been detected again automatically, how can I get my Wireless card to show up again in Network settings? (there is no Add button like it shows in Help)
[06:58] <reka> geetergod: it uses the xine backend rather than the default gstreamer
[06:58] <geetergod> reka, the sound stopped when i was in Volume Control and did something with Multi Track Internal Clock
[06:58] <Deffy> Well it's a Belkin wireless adaptor 802.11g
[06:59] <geetergod> reka, i have xine, is totem-xine different/
[06:59] <Deffy> all I happen to have on it
[06:59] <Pithlit> JayLv99: what's stopping you from burning the damn cd?
[06:59] <reka> geetergod: same program, different backend. try it, you can always jsut go back if you want.
[06:59] <geetergod> k
[06:59] <reka> geetergod: actaully hang on
[07:00] <JayLv99> Pithlit: my crappy computer doesn't want to run from CD when I try it ;/
[07:00] <reka> geetergod: sorry misread it.  does xine work?
[07:00] <Pithlit> Deffy: model number?
[07:00] <JayLv99> I've already burned the ISO image to disk twice
[07:00] <JayLv99> and it won't run.
[07:00] <geetergod> reka, xine plays video but no sound
[07:00] <Pithlit> JayLv99: get a boot floppy, put it in, put the cd in and reboot
[07:00] <JayLv99> where would I get a boot floppy?
[07:00] <Deffy> F507050
[07:00] <Pithlit> gimme a sec
[07:01] <reka> geetergod: hmm, well you've isolated it to an effect from changing vol. control setting.  do you know what you did?
[07:01] <Deffy> other then that box and manual just say Belkin 802.11g Wifi Adaptor
[07:01] <ups> slept, thank, i'll look into it
[07:01] <geetergod> reka, no i dont :(
[07:01] <slept> ups, good luck
[07:01] <gskillet> Anybody know why Ubuntu would remove my Wireless card from Network settings when I unplugged it? Now i cant get it back
[07:02] <geetergod> reka, what command do i use to use totem-xine?
[07:02] <Pithlit> JayLv99: http://freeweb.siol.net/pithlit/morphixboot_02.img
[07:02] <reka> geetergod: once you install it, 'totem'.
[07:02] <geetergod> k
[07:03] <geetergod> reka, it started
[07:03] <slept> what might be the reason for - kernelpanic unable to mount rootfs
[07:03] <reka> geetergod: it replaces totem-gstreamer with totem-xine
[07:03] <reka> geetergod: the install, that is
[07:03] <slept> what are the things I can look for
[07:03] <geetergod> reka, its playing the video but no sound
[07:03] <Pithlit> Deffy: Your search - belkin f507050 - did not match any documents.
[07:04] <Pithlit> are you sure that's the model
[07:04] <reka> slept: tried #kernel-panic?
[07:04] <forsaker8k6> hi guys... does someone know where i can find an ac3 filter to play videos with ac3 audio?
[07:05] <Deffy> Pithlit: I'm sure, the box and the manual just call it "Wireless G USB Network Adaptor"
[07:05] <Deffy> oops
[07:05] <Deffy> my bad
[07:05] <gskillet> waiting for help: Wireless Card (eth1) disappeared from Ubuntu, and now Wireless Card is: No device found - All resulted from removing and re-inserting Netgear MA401 PCMIA 802.11B wireless card
[07:05] <PhantomFreak> Gnome has an applet for CPUfreq in /usr/lib/gnome-applets... Does anyone know how to get it to work?
[07:05] <reka> geetergod: i dunno....  you'll have to try and undo the vol. control setting you did :-/  if you decide to reinstall, i'd at least try the ubguide fix before you do.
[07:05] <geetergod> reka, any idears?
[07:05] <Deffy> F5D7050
[07:05] <Pithlit> k
[07:05] <Pithlit> looking
[07:05] <geetergod> reka, ok
[07:05] <reka> geetergod: that's all i've got sorry.
[07:05] <forsaker8k6> i guess no one here knows... thanks anyway :)
[07:06] <geetergod> reka, thanks anyway! i'll get it to work somehow
[07:06] <wizzard> pls, where can I find all the debian packages? I would like to download preview version of KOffice 1.4 with Krita program
[07:06] <reka> PhantomFreak: it doesn't work, or you don't know how to run it?
[07:06] <xoz> forsaker8k6: apt-cache search ac3
[07:06] <geetergod> reka, i just noticed the sound thing on the taskbar isnt even there
[07:06] <reka> wizzard: don't.  using debian packages is a no-no afaik
[07:06] <forsaker8k6> tnx xoz i'll try ;)
[07:06] <PhantomFreak> Well it apears to run, ish! But I don't know how to get gnome to load applets!
[07:07] <wizzard> reka, what do you mean? I should not use debian packages?
[07:07] <reka> geetergod: hmm, maybe find the vol. control package and reinstall it via synaptic
[07:07] <dadan> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.4/gcc-3.4-base_3.4.3-9ubuntu4_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:07] <dadan> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:07] <xoz> wizzard: ubuntu is based on debian but packages version differs
[07:07] <reka> wizzard: yes.  i think i saw someone warned about that
[07:07] <dadan> how i can fix it
[07:07] <reka> dadan: what are you tryng to do?
[07:08] <wizzard> ok, so you think it is possible to find any source with preview KOffice packages?
[07:08] <dadan> i'm trying to install gcc
[07:08] <reka> dadan: install build-essential
[07:08] <PhantomFreak> So... Does anyone have any idea about this gnome applet?
[07:08] <reka> PhantomFreak: right click on panel-> add to panel
[07:08] <Pithlit> Deffy: you're gonna need this http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[07:08] <reka> PhantomFreak: those are applets. :-]
[07:08] <gskillet> waiting for help: Wireless Card (eth1) disappeared from Ubuntu, and now Wireless Card is: No device found - All resulted from removing and re-inserting Netgear MA401 PCMIA 802.11B wireless card
[07:09] <PhantomFreak> It said that in some of the files! Which panel?
[07:09] <reka> PhantomFreak: top or bottom
[07:09] <Deffy> Pithlit: Thanks :)
[07:09] <reka> PhantomFreak: panel/taskbar
[07:09] <orhs> hey all i have a HP pavilion ze2000 laptop, i have installed ndiswrapper but i need the proper drivers... can anyone help me provide thoose drivers?
[07:09] <xoz> gskillet: reinsert again and make sure it is properly stuck
[07:09] <reka> wizzard: why koffice?
[07:09] <Pithlit> Deffy: np
[07:10] <gskillet> xoz: it is, light is on and everything
[07:10] <PhantomFreak> Shit, that was easy! Wish I realised that earlier... I've been trying to get that to work for a while!
[07:10] <wizzard> cause I would like to have some simple graphics program
[07:10] <xoz> gskillet: dmesg
[07:10] <gskillet> xoz: i removed the card and re-inserted it, now Ubuntu cant and will not recognize something as being there
[07:10] <marin> I have a problem: My laptop doesn't power off when I try to halt the system
[07:10] <reka> PhantomFreak: hehe.  well you won't forget where gnome applets are now, won't you?
[07:10] <wizzard> I have KOffice 1.3.5, but there is no good graphics program
[07:10] <trauma> marin: I've got the same problem
[07:10] <gskillet> xoz: dmesg only returns eth0 (my onboard ethernet)
[07:10] <reka> wizzard: graphics?
[07:11] <xoz> gskillet: modprobe <module for wireless>
[07:11] <wizzard> I dont like Gimp
[07:11] <PhantomFreak> reka Very True!
[07:11] <marin> just restart the system
[07:11] <dadan> how i can install tcl
[07:11] <Pithlit> omg how can you not like gimp ?
[07:11] <reka> wizzard: KOffice 1.3.5 is the current official KOffice release.
[07:11] <reka> from the website
[07:11] <gskillet> xoz: no return
[07:11] <trauma> marin: I believe you need to add 'apm' to /etc/modules
[07:11] <xoz> gskillet: and /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:11] <reka> 1.3.5 is in the repos
[07:11] <wizzard> I was used to Windoze apps
[07:11] <wizzard> and prefer KDE to Gnome
[07:12] <trauma> not sure if that works though
[07:12] <orhs> anyone got the drivers for A broadcom BCM4306 802.11b wireless lan controller?
[07:12] <xoz> gskillet: lsmod | grep <wireless modul>
[07:12] <Lafitte-> hola
[07:13] <marin> how can I do that?
[07:13] <xoz> orhs: google what driver is used for that
[07:13] <trauma> in a terminal, as root, enter 'gedit /etc/modules
[07:13] <Pithlit> orhs: afaik broadcom won't work with linux
[07:13] <trauma> and add 'apm' to it
[07:13] <trauma> don't forget to save
[07:13] <dadan> how i can install tcl
[07:13] <Pithlit> I might be wrong tho
[07:13] <orhs> pithlit, yes it will becuase i did this one time before but i dont remember what i did
[07:13] <Darcamo> n
[07:13] <ren0> Hello. I reinstalled a couple of days ago with hoary and now I have no sound.
[07:14] <Pithlit> orhs: my bad then
[07:14] <reka> wizzard: what's wrong with the gimp?  what exactly do you need?
[07:14] <marin> Ok, i'm going to try
[07:14] <orhs> xoz, i have googled it but i just found forums with help on how to do it not any links for downloading
[07:14] <marin> thanks
[07:14] <xoz> orhs: http://www.broadcom.com/drivers/driver-sla.php?driver=4401-Linux
[07:14] <trauma> no problem, good luck
[07:14] <ren0> Yes the volume is up and its not muted.
[07:14] <wizzard> I want something like Paint Shop Pro in Windoze
[07:14] <kevogod> If I have Fedora installed on one hard drive and install Ubuntu to the other, will Ubuntu recognize Fedora and add it to Grub?
[07:14] <Darcamo> I have problems with sound too. Sometimes when i boot the computer i have no sound. Then i just reboot until i get sound
[07:14] <erb> hello
[07:15] <wizzard> reka: I dont like Gimp environment
[07:15] <xoz> orhs: you know what driver it uses? try module-assistant
[07:15] <ren0> I have this error in the multimedia selector: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon'
[07:15] <sam_> xoz: reconfigure did not add the wireless card, i think i have the pcmia, prism, orinoco's on modprobe
[07:15] <reka> wizzard: how complex are you going to get?  are you happy with something like ms paint?
[07:15] <ren0> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System
[07:15] <xoz> sam_: iwconfig ?
[07:16] <wizzard> reka, nope, but I saw the animations of Krita, it looks very impressive
[07:16] <orhs> xoz it uses bcm4306 driver, and its a WLAN card not a eth card :P
[07:16] <orhs> brb
[07:16] <sam_> xoz: iwconfig returns lo, eth0, sit0, but no eth1
[07:16] <Pithlit> orhs: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/11/msg00423.html
[07:16] <slept> kevogod, make sure you don't have grub installed twice that will cause strange problems ,  grub will find everything with grub-update
[07:16] <xoz> sam_: is it eth1?
[07:16] <Pithlit> err...
[07:16] <ren0> Darcamo, thanks for the tip but I have rebooted several times now.
[07:16] <sam_> xoz: it was before it disappeared
[07:17] <xoz> sam_: modprobe -r orinoco ... the modprobe orinoco
[07:17] <xoz> sam_: iwconfig again
[07:17] <kevogod> slept: OK Thanks.
[07:17] <sam_> xoz: says orinoco is in use
[07:18] <xoz> sam_: modprobe -r orinoco_pci
[07:18] <sam_> xoz: modprobe has no return, but -r says in use
[07:18] <xoz> sam_: modprobe -r orinoco
[07:18] <reka> for those with SOUND problems: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly (use as last resort, it *may* cause problems)
[07:18] <Darcamo> I noticed that when i have no sound, the "dsp" device in /dev doesn't exist. Only dsp1. I try the comand MAKEDEV dsp in /dev, but it didn't workout either.
[07:18] <xoz> sam_: lsmod | grep orinoco
[07:18] <xoz> sam_: remove those with orinoco prefix
[07:19] <reka> wizzard: i hate kde apps. so i can't really help you i reckon.  i'm happy with the gimp.
[07:19] <ren0> reka, thanks I'll look at that
[07:19] <trauma> marin: did it work?
[07:19] <marin> ok
[07:19] <xoz> s/gimp/gnome
[07:19] <wizzard> reka: I love KDE and hate Gnome, but thank you very much anyway
[07:19] <marin> the problem have been solved
[07:20] <reka> wizzard: try asking at #kubuntu or #kde
[07:20] <Zzzippo> hi all
[07:20] <sam_> xoz: i did modprobe -r for orinoco and orinoco_cs
[07:20] <sam_> xoz: the two that showed for lsmod grep orinoco
[07:20] <Zzzippo> ubuntu live cd wont boot ;(
[07:20] <wizzard> reka: yeah, I tried kubuntu, but kde channel is a good idea, I will try
[07:20] <xoz> sam_: ah, then try modprobe inserting them again... orinoco is buggy.
[07:20] <reka> good luck
[07:21] <Riddell> wizzard: there are packages of koffice 1.4 beta for kubuntu
[07:21] <xoz> sam_: i prefer hostap... although it is not in the official kernel
[07:21] <sam_> xoz: my card is pcmcia but i thikn thats the same as orinoco
[07:21] <wizzard> Riddell: do you know where?
[07:21] <xoz> sam_: orinoco_cs ... for pcmcia
[07:21] <xoz> sam_: orinoco_pci ... for internal
[07:22] <sam_> xoz: yeah got it
[07:22] <mp_> is there anyting like InfoCentre in Ubuntu to view processor type, RAm etc?
[07:22] <sam_> xoz: now that ive re-inserted them how do i get the eth1 back?
[07:22] <xoz> sam_: the painful but easiest way is to reboot and avoid removing the card.
[07:22] <Riddell> wizzard: deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/koffice-1.4-beta1/kubuntu/ ./
[07:22] <Seveas> Th4tBa5t4rd, still down
[07:22] <Seveas> narf, sorry
[07:22] <sam_> xoz: i know i should have but i forgot, stupid thing still isnt showing up
[07:22] <wizzard> Riddell, thank you very much
[07:22] <xoz> sam_: try iwconfig eth1... or restart your network
[07:23] <sam_> xoz ok
[07:23] <sam_> xoz: eth1      No such device
[07:23] <lukins> does ubuntu dvd contain all ubuntu packages?
[07:23] <PhantomFreak> OK... So I'm back, the applet is visible, but it isn't showing anything usefull!
[07:23] <xoz> sam_: what kernel version?
[07:23] <sam_> xoz: how to i label it as eth1 again, i dont think ive had a chance to tell it that i want it to be eth1
[07:23] <reka> mp_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:23] <sam_> 3.1
[07:24] <xoz> sam_: apt-get install ifrename
[07:24] <reka> mp_: cat /proc/meminfo
[07:24] <xoz> or edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:24] <sam_> xoz ok
[07:25] <PhantomFreak> Has anyone else tried to get this applet to work?
[07:25] <sam_> xoz: i have eth0, but its my onboard ethernet
[07:25] <sam_> xoz: thats the only thing its letting me rename
[07:25] <sam_> xoz: its still not detecting that i have a PCMCIA since i pulled it out
[07:26] <reka> lukins: i'm guessing no.
[07:26] <sam_> xoz: when i installed ubuntu, the first or second screen that it gave me was a choice on which card to use to download packages, it was able to detect both -- can i get to this screen again? (base-config or something?)
[07:27] <Stargazer> Good morning.. perhaps someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong.. I'm running 5.04 PPC and I'm trying to watch divx's.. I've installed totem-xine, and I've installed vlc.. with both of them the video displays fine but no audio plays at all... what am I doing wrong??
[07:27] <lukins> does anyone here have the ubuntu dvd? does it contain all ubuntu packages?
[07:28] <reka> where's thoreaputic when you need him?
[07:28] <sam_> xoz: im going to reboot with the re-inserted orinoco
[07:28] <mgcross> hello all
[07:28] <mgcross> Any South Koreans in the house?
[07:28] <dennis_> hello, there. I installed Ubuntu last night when I was a little drunk, but I don't recall setting a password for root? Is there a default?
[07:28] <Rap-to-Ubuntu> #/dialog  xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[07:29] <crimsun> dennis_: see the topic faq regarding root
[07:29] <Pithlit> dennis_: yeah... default is - no root
[07:29] <dennis_> thx
[07:29] <mgcross> dennis...sudo pass will be the same as your account pass
[07:29] <reka> Stargazer: try this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:29] <refuze2looze> dennis_: there is no root account, when it asks for your root password enter your user password
[07:30] <dennis_> any idea why when type 'chkconfig' I get command not found?
[07:30] <crimsun> dennis_: it's not red hat
[07:31] <crimsun> ubuntu doesn't ship with chkconfig
[07:31] <Ng> debian based systems use update-rc.d to do the equivalent things
[07:31] <radxx> hey all
[07:31] <mgcross> Hi
[07:32] <radxx> I managed to get Gnome/Xorg working at last :D
[07:32] <reka> radxx: how did you go?
[07:32] <toresbe> radxx: grats
[07:32] <radxx> but... it meant putting the resolution down to 1024x768
[07:32] <dennis_> sorry I am relatively new to linux
[07:32] <reka> radxx: why?
[07:32] <radxx> so I'm sitting here with a 20" lcd with everything about double normal size
[07:33] <Pithlit> dennis_: nothing to be sorry about... just don't ever lose your sense of humor :P
[07:33] <radxx> I have no idea, but it either would not display anything or be a corrupt image if I tried to run it in 1600x1200
[07:34] <refuze2looze> radxx: are you sure you got the horizontal and vertical sync rate of your monitor right?
[07:34] <nalioth> reka we still on about fast browsers?
[07:34] <orhs> i have just installed Ndiswrapper now, but i want my WLAN card(BCM4306) to be installed... the drivers i need is BCM4306.inf and BCM4306.inf2 <--- i think thats the driver name
[07:34] <reka> nalioth: sure.  i'm curious.
[07:34] <synd> dillo is fast :>
[07:34] <nalioth> reka: did you grok what i sent u earlier?
[07:35] <reka> you sent me something?
[07:35] <ren0> Thanks whoever gave me the www.ubuntuguide.org tip about the sound. Its working now
[07:35] <nalioth> synd: someone was in here earlier lookin for dillo with fltk
[07:35] <gpled> is their a cad or drafting program for ubuntu?
[07:36] <ren0> qcad
[07:36] <radxx> that may have been the problem, I tried ultra conservative settings and then it worked. What should the sync rates be like for a Viewsonic 20" lcd? It was just a bit confusing in the config program when it was listing the top possible refresh rates with (1280x1024) resolution after.
[07:36] <ren0> there is also Linuxcad ut its a commercial program
[07:36] <ren0> but
[07:36] <synd> nalioth: ever tried Lynx?
[07:36] <gpled> think qcad is commercial now too.
[07:36] <goldfish> anyone ever heard of the programming language chef ?
[07:37] <reka> ren0: that was me.  good to hear it fixed it.
[07:37] <schasi> goldfish: yes me
[07:37] <Burgundavia> gpled, qcad can be gpl and commercial
[07:37] <refuze2looze> radxx: you should see your monitor's manual. it should have the sync rates there.. or check the company's website, or maybe it says it on the back of your monitor
[07:37] <gskillet> xoz: no luck... still only has my onboard ethernet
[07:37] <nalioth> synd: i use self-compiled links from twibright labs. i compile with --with-graphics and --enable-javascript
[07:37] <goldfish> schasi: hehe, very amusing :) nearly as mad as piet
[07:37] <ren0> A google for linux and cad should give you some good links
[07:37] <nalioth> synd: lynx is for your grandpop
[07:37] <schasi> goldfish: Go to wikipedia for a whole bunch ofem
[07:37] <goldfish> http://www.weavedigital.com/guess-the-google/?l=1
[07:38] <goldfish> google game
[07:38] <goldfish> fun :)
[07:38] <synd> heh heh
[07:38] <goldfish> schasi: yeah just read the page, quite funny :)
[07:38] <schasi> tried brainfuck for some time
[07:38] <IIIEars> radxx -If you have the FCC ID# you can find out -everythinng- about what is inside your monitor.
[07:38] <nalioth> reka: are you familier with compilation of source code?
[07:38] <gskillet> you know whats really sad, the only way to get ubuntu to find my PCMCIA wireless card is to re-install?
[07:38] <ren0> gpled "sudo apt-get install qcad" It works
[07:39] <reka> nalioth: you mean configure, make and make install?
[07:39] <ren0> It will appear in your Graphics Applications
[07:39] <gskillet> can you believe i have to re-install ubuntu because i removed a PCMCIA wireless card and put it back in?  ubuntu cant plug and play
[07:39] <IIIEars> The FCC ID# is printed on a lot of other parts motherboards too. - check that number on the FCC.gov site
[07:39] <nalioth> reka: well, i use checkinstall isntead of make install (keeps the ol' system a little cleaner)
[07:39] <synd> gskillet: no
[07:40] <reka> nalioth: well why don't the readmes tell you that?
[07:40] <gskillet> synd: it wont detect my PCMCIA card anymore, it doesnt find it at all
[07:40] <nalioth> reka: what readmes?
[07:40] <synd> gskillet: i pull my PCMCIA card out all the time
[07:40] <gskillet> synd: i re-inserted orinoco drivers, but it still only has my onboard card
[07:40] <jyrki> just installed lates version of Ubuntu. Problems with screen resolution setting. System->Settings->Screen Resolution application does not allow to set more than 1024x768, 60Hz. I'm using oly GUI at the moment. I have GeForce5200FX and Nokia 447Xi monitor. In windows I use 1280x1024 with 90Hz so this should work here also
[07:40] <gpled> ren0:  E: Package qcad has no installation candidate
[07:40] <synd> gskillet: whats wrong with the onboard card? or is that not wireless?
[07:41] <gskillet> synd: after removing my PCMCIA card once, it removed all references to it on the computer, the onboard is ethernet
[07:41] <reka> nalioth: when you compile programs from source.  they usually have README files.
[07:41] <gskillet> synd: my wireless use to be eth1, now eth1 = No device found
[07:41] <synd> gskillet: hm, mine is wlan0
[07:41] <refuze2looze> jyrki: you have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add that resolution to your modes. also make sure your vertical and horiz sync rates are correct
[07:41] <nalioth> reka: and the choice of "make install" and "checkinstall" is entirely left to the user
[07:41] <gskillet> synd: what did u do to add it
[07:42] <synd> gskillet: did you have to use ndiswrapper?
[07:42] <gskillet> synd: no i selected it on the first-question of the ubuntu install
[07:42] <reka> nalioth: true i guess.
[07:42] <gskillet> synd: it showed my onboard and my wireless and let me select
[07:42] <gskillet> synd: now the wireless is gone completely and only eth0 onboard remains
[07:42] <krapnek> hello there, anybody in here familiar with Lilo error: L 99 99 99.....?
[07:43] <jyrki> How I can system to do this automatically?
[07:43] <krapnek> i don't know how to force lab32 booting
[07:43] <gskillet> synd: so i need to manually install the PCMCIA card again, i re-installed the drivers but its still not detecting it
[07:43] <synd> gskillet: if it detects during install, theres no reason why it shouldnt now.
[07:43] <gskillet> synd: No device found. :/
[07:43] <reka> ubotu: tell jyrki about fixres
[07:43] <synd> gskillet: did you reboot? ie shutdown, wait a min and restart?
[07:43] <gskillet> synd: yes this happend a few days ago ive been trying to fix it since
[07:43] <anacron> hey guys what's wrong when i can't add volume control to my panel, where can i change my volume?
[07:43] <reka> jyrki: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:44] <gskillet> synd: i actually had this problem before, and only re-installing ubuntu fixed it
[07:44] <IIIEars> krapnek - lilo failed and corrupted your MBR. going to need a disk util or dd to rewrite it.
[07:44] <ren0> gpled, you may need to add more repositories: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:44] <gskillet> synd: but i have come too far on this install and i dont want to start over
[07:44] <Kartagis> hello
[07:44] <gskillet> synd: its like the only way for it to see my card is thru that first screen during install
[07:44] <anacron> hello fellow
[07:44] <synd> gskillet: its absurd that you have to reinstall for it to be seen
[07:44] <reka> anacron: apps->sound&vid
[07:45] <krapnek> IIIEars: not possible by "lilo -L"
[07:45] <anacron> reka: ok tnx
[07:45] <synd> gskillet: what happens if you shutdown completely and not take it out?
[07:45] <Stargazer> What do I need to install to get totem player to play mp3's?
[07:45] <ren0> Then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and then you can install the program
[07:45] <Kartagis> I want to retrieve a package without retrieving its dependencies. how?
[07:45] <synd> gskillet: it still works upon reboot?
[07:45] <gskillet> synd: i turn it back on and i still cant use wireless, only ethernet works
[07:45] <gskillet> synd: no it hasnt worked since i pulled it out and put it back in
[07:45] <reka> Stargazer: gstreamer0.8-mad iirc
[07:45] <Kartagis> Stargazer: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:45] <anacron> reka: heh, "error registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it blaa blaa"
[07:45] <reka> Stargazer: did you get sound working?
[07:45] <gskillet> synd: the card is still good, light is on and everything
[07:45] <synd> gskillet: no i meant back when it did work
[07:46] <radxx> right just having a bash at setting the refresh rates, hopefully this is going to work...
[07:46] <gskillet> synd: yeah it worked fine reboot shutdown etc, only on removal did it stop
[07:46] <Ubuntian> there we go, IP numbers assigned and printer shared! now the NFS stuff... :-)
[07:46] <nalioth> Stargazer: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:46] <ren0> Stargazer: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:46] <reka> anacron: sounds like you've got bigger problems...
[07:46] <synd> gskillet: thats very very odd
[07:46] <anacron> voice control says i have to run gts-register, but terminal says command not found :/
[07:46] <synd> gskillet: i remove my pcmcia card all the time
[07:47] <anacron> reka: well seems so, anyway sounds work fine, i just can't adjust the volume in linux
[07:47] <reka> anacron: voice control?
[07:47] <erb> hello
[07:47] <anacron> reka: volume*
[07:47] <gskillet> synd: yeah its making me crazy
[07:47] <radxx> can I just hit ctrl+alt+backspace to restart gdm and then will it load the new xorg.conf ?
[07:47] <reka> anacron: sys->prefs->k/b shortcuts
[07:48] <gskillet> synd: i just need to re-add the card manually but i dont know how - other than re-insert Orinoco PCMCIA drivers which i did
[07:48] <nalioth> reka: <voice>Send Money Now</voice>
[07:48] <reka> anacron: add one for volume up and volume down
[07:48] <anacron> reka: ok, i'll try that :D
[07:48] <reka> nalioth: heh
[07:48] <erb> is there any kind of gui-app what i can use to enable/disable network services on my machine?
[07:48] <synd> gskillet: yeah
[07:48] <IIIEars> krapnek - http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0208/msg00155.html - this should help.
[07:49] <gskillet> synd: eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:49] <Kartagis> radxx: yeah
[07:49] <radxx> thanks, brb
[07:49] <gskillet> synd: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[07:49] <reka> Ubuntian: how so?
[07:49] <krapnek> IIIEars: thank you for advice. im a real newbie but try my best
[07:49] <nalioth> reka: ya find the checkinstall page? its in your repos, btw
[07:49] <krapnek> will tell you if it works, IIIEars
[07:50] <IIIEars> krapnek - It gets easier. - thank god... - lol
[07:50] <Kartagis> I want to retrieve a package without retrieving its dependencies. how?
[07:50] <Ubuntian> reka, because it smells new, it's fast, the keybord feels nice, well i love it
[07:50] <reka> nalioth: i did an apt-cache show .. i don't install many things by source anyway, but what's the diff b/n it and normal make install?
[07:50] <jyrki> Thanks, I'll read instructions from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:50] <erb> sby. can help me?
[07:50] <nalioth> Ubuntian: if you are male, we hope you don't use it on your actual lap
[07:51] <orhs> i dont find the driver(s) for my Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[07:51] <nalioth> reka: checkinstall makes debs (not worth a crap to anyone but you) so the system can keep up with WHERE all the custom stuff is installed
[07:51] <mjr> orhs, there isn't
[07:51] <radxx> wooohoooo, native resolution at last :D
[07:52] <nalioth> reka: beats havin to go thru /usr/local/* to clean out the old versions of hand compiled stuff
[07:52] <reka> nalioth: ah. so you make a deb and install using dpkg?
[07:52] <anacron> reka: keyboard shortcuts won't change volume, even they try
[07:52] <radxx> thanks everyone for your help in solving my xorg problems
[07:52] <nalioth> reka: checkinstall makes the deb AND installs it. What a deal, eh?
[07:52] <reka> anacron: sounds like vol. control is stuffed then. :-/
[07:52] <reka> nalioth: nice.  *makes note*
[07:52] <orhs> mjr yes there is... i just installed ndis to make it eat the drivers but i dont find the drivers
[07:52] <anacron> reka: can i reinstall it?
[07:53] <nalioth> reka: then you save the deb it made off to a source directory and ya dont have to recompile after you reinstall or if you build/get an idientical machine
[07:53] <reka> anacron: dunno.  it might be integrated, try and look for the package.
[07:53] <ksoze> so I asked this late at night, but never mid day (in this part of the world): any good sound recording packages out there that just work (no need to kill or replace esd)?
[07:53] <anacron> reka: yeah, i'll try to
[07:53] <reka> nalioth: cool.  i guess that makes uninstalling cleaner too.
[07:54] <dennis_> if I download a driver for windows in self-extracting .exe format is there a way to extract the files from it under linux?
[07:54] <IIIEars> ubotu ubuntu
[07:54] <ubotu> IIIEars: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:54] <Stargazer> Reka: Yup.. got sound working.. the video is  jumpy.. but that probably is because of my weak processor...  Also, I've got white shimmering pixels that show up in the video everywhere.. any idea why?
[07:54] <nalioth> reka: yes cuz the dpkg database keeps track of where all the crap went
[07:54] <IIIEars> !status
[07:54] <ksoze> I tried audacity, and it hates esd
[07:54] <reka> IIIEars: the dbase seems to have been wiped.  all of my info i feeded was gone
[07:55] <anacron> dennis_: you can try with wine
[07:55] <reka> thanks
[07:55] <reka> that's pretty darn useful
[07:55] <dennis_> oh man, this is getting complicated
[07:55] <ksoze> sweep has the strange limitation of making you set the file length up front
[07:55] <nalioth> reka: i'm an old dog, but some new tricks just make sense
[07:55] <anacron> :D
[07:55] <reka> Stargazer: jumpy in videos? or DVD?
[07:55] <IIIEars> reka - there seems to be a backup. wondering if cafuego has noticed