[03:13] <Cereal_Junior> yo
[13:34] <newbie89> some qt5 applications menu font size is too small in xubuntu.
[15:11] <JeZxLee> any word yet on an AMD proprietary display driver for 16.04 ?
[20:19] <xubuntu31w> hello! I wonder if someone can help me with my xubuntu problem. It's to do with the 'Software Updater'!
[20:34] <cspack> xubuntu31w: what's the question? If someone can help, they will answer
[21:29] <lesa> Hello, is there a way to run applications like Firefox at specific time apart from at command or cron?
[21:30] <well_laid_lawn> lesa:  you could probably write a script using date
[21:31] <well_laid_lawn> what's wrong with at or cron?
[21:32] <lesa> I haven't tried it and I need something that works simply as at, but at startet Firefox a couple of times but not anymore.
[21:33] <lesa> I cannot see any errors and it's not sending any mail to tell if something went wrong.
[21:34] <well_laid_lawn> a script should be simple to hack up
[21:35] <lesa> Besides, cron doesn't seem to be very reliable, so I've read.
[21:35] <well_laid_lawn> cron is reliable, people that use cron aren't
[21:37] <lesa> Possibly ;D, anyways when I write a script for at to echo something to a folder it does that. So, I wonder why it won't run graphical applications when I'm logged in.
[21:38] <lesa> Or does it haphazardly.
[21:39] <lesa> I've written a script that says /usr/bin/firefox, and it doesn't run.
[21:39] <lesa> with a bang at the top ofcourse ;)
[21:43] <krytarik> lesa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#GUI_Applications
[21:50] <lesa> Tnx Krytarik, I'd ruther not use cron because I don't need apps to run Mon-Fry and such. Only occasionaly and randomly.
[21:53] <lesa> It's a pity at doesn't know for export DISPLAY=:0, it would be ideal for my purpose.
[21:53] <krytarik> lesa: The same applies to 'at' as well.
[21:57] <lesa> Well, I'll be damned, it does!  :D Thanks a million for this headsup, krytarik.
[22:41] <xubuntu86w> Help
[22:46] <ROPA> has anyone here successfully installed TAILS from xubuntu 16.04? I'm trying, I've enabled the universe repository, but the software center can't find a listing for 'tails'.
[23:26] <knome> ROPA, what is that even supposed to be?


[00:33] <user__> I'm back.
[00:35] <user__> Ok, so I tried copying some audio files to the desktop from my phone and they don't transfer.
[00:35] <user__> I press "Copy Here" and "Move Here" and no effect.
[00:36] <user__> I even tried to transfer the whole "Camera" folder with all of the pictures on my phone on it to the desktop.
[02:14] <user__> Hello everyone.
[02:14] <user__> Anybody on here right now?
 some of us
 but this isn't always the most fastest time to get support here.
[02:16] <user__> I can
[02:16] <user__> Excuse me, I can't go on the other channels without having to register with /nickserv.
 it's also tricky sometimes to get data to move off Android phones.  Copy should have worked though.
[02:17] <user__> Ok, so earlier I mentioned that installed Lubuntu 19.04 recently, and tried to drag some pictures from my Android phone to the Desktop, when I got the options "Copy Here", "Move Here", and "Insert Symlink Here", I tried all of them but they didn't transfer to the desktop.
[02:18] <user__> I tried older versions of Lubuntu like 16.04.4 and 18.04 and they transferred but when I went to go view them on the desktop, they had an error being viewed.
[02:19] <user__> Trying out Linux Mint and Ubuntu, I transferred the same photos off of my phone to the desktop and they had no problem being viewed or corrupted.
[02:19] <user__> So something's up with Lubuntu and my phone.
[03:31] <Guest84435> VM booted into emergency mode. how to recover from it?
[04:22] <tomreyn> Guest84435: that's the onoly information you have available?
[04:23] <tomreyn> not anything related to lubuntu version, what you did between when it worked and now?, any error message? output of "echo $REASON"?
[04:25] <Guest84435> tomreyn: there is message along emergency mode alert, suggesting 'systemctl reboot' 'journalctl -xxx' something like that
[04:25] <Guest84435> $REASON empty
[04:25] <tomreyn> which lubuntu version?
[04:26] <Guest84435> lastest version
[04:26] <tomreyn> jorunalctl -b    should show what was logged since latest boot
[04:26] <tomreyn> any errors there?
[04:27] <tomreyn> did you make changes which may have caused this?
[04:27] <Guest84435> before emergency message, I was trying to run pycharm and something freezed.
[04:28] <tomreyn> "emergency message"? what did it say?
[04:28] <Guest84435> the log was lost since I was trying to boot from iso
[04:28] <tomreyn> you were running pycharms, then the system reset / rebooted?
[04:30] <tomreyn> which iso were you trying to boot from and why?
[04:30] <Guest84435> it saying 'now in Emergency mode, suggests 'journelctl -xxx' 'systemctl reboot' to recover. I tried but didn't work out.
[04:31] <tomreyn> 'dmesg' would have a lof if journalctl doesn't
[04:31] <tomreyn> *loG
[04:33] <Guest84435> lubuntu iso that is running now I am typing on this running iso.
[04:34] <Guest84435> I were running pycharm, installing some packages, then somehow stalked and freezed. then the emergency message.
[04:36] <Guest84435> tomreyn: dmsg shows info for the current live iso, right?
[16:18] <dabblerdude> Hello everyone. Hello everyone.
[16:18] <dabblerdude> So I have an issue with Lubuntu and my Android phone; I tried to transfer some photos as well as some music from my phone to the desktop, and they wouldn't transfer. On Lubuntu 19.04, when I tried to drag and drop the things to the desktop and had the options "Move Here", "Copy Here" and "Insert Symblink Here",  I tried those options and they had no effect.
[16:18] <dabblerdude> I also tried Lubuntu 18.04 LTS and 16.04x, but this time, they transferred to the desktop and when I tried to click on those items from the desktop, I had errors viewing them.
[16:18] <dabblerdude> They were corrupted and unviewable on the desktop, but not on my phone.
[16:18] <dabblerdude> These problems didn't occur when I used Linux Mint and Ubuntu.
[16:18] <dabblerdude> So they had no issue being transferred and viewed.
[16:37] <dabblerdude> test message.
[16:50] <wxl[m]> dabblerdude: didn't we go over this before? You need to ctrl-drag to copy. Default is a symlink
[16:51] <dabblerdude> wxl[m]: Yeah, we did. But isn't this a bug in Lubuntu or something?
[16:52] <dabblerdude> Otherwise, is there a way I can change the default to something else besides a symlink?
[16:52] <wxl[m]> Not totally, but as I said before, I wouldn't expect much out of the LXDE. Unless it's a huge problem with no workaround and a clear fix..
[16:53] <wxl[m]> Not that I know of
[16:53] <dabblerdude> I see, yeah, it's only with Lubuntu that I get this issue, not Ubuntu or Linux Mint.
[16:54] <dabblerdude> By the way, I got this issue on 19.04 with lxde-qt.
[16:55] <wxl[m]> What the heck is lxde-qt???
[16:55] <dabblerdude> Excuse me, I mena lxqt.
[16:55] <dabblerdude> The desktop environment that 19.04 runs.
[16:55] <dabblerdude> The one that you mentioned that is under heavy development.
[16:56] <wxl[m]> You still have that version running?
[16:59] <dabblerdude> I run 19.04.
[16:59] <dabblerdude> I had another computer to run 19.04 on with a Core 2 Duo at 3Ghz.
[16:59] <dabblerdude> So I was getting that file transfer issue on there too.
[17:00] <dabblerdude> I have 18.04 on the Dell laptop.
[17:01] <wxl[m]> Can you copy any file (not on the phone) to the desktop on the LXQt?
[17:01] <dabblerdude> I tried copying some files from a flash drive on to the desktop and it worked.
[17:02] <dabblerdude> No problems there.
[17:02] <wxl[m]> Curious
[17:03] <wxl[m]> Let me see if I can find an upstream issue related to MTP devices
[17:03] <dabblerdude> It's got to be a bug.
[17:03] <dabblerdude> Or yeah, and upstream issue related to that.
[17:16] <wxl[m]> https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/pull/439
[17:16] <wxl[m]> Literally just got fixed
[17:16] <wxl[m]> Hopefully they release it in time for 19.10. If not, I'll pull the patch in
[17:17] <dabblerdude> That's good.
[17:18] <dabblerdude> So would I have to deal with copying and pasting or ctrl-dragging for now until 19.10 comes out?
 Yup! Unfortunately you will have to use Ctrl+drag. Or if you could contribute and pull in the patch, you can get it before 19.10 arrives.
 ;)
[17:25] <dabblerdude> I cannot contribute to the patch as I'm not that good with source code.
[17:26] <dabblerdude> IRC is so helpful when it comes to tech problems.
[17:26] <dabblerdude> It's not like with a forum online.
[17:54] <dabblerdude> Thanks for your help, wxl.
[17:56] <dabblerdude> See ya later everyone!
[20:27] <kiwi_11> I recently got updates. How long is there eupdates for lubuntu 16.04.6 ?
[20:27] <kiwi_11> *updtaes
[20:28] <kiwi_11> updates
[20:39] <kc2bez> kiwi_11: Lubuntu support for 16.04 has ended. The only thing receiving updates is the Ubuntu base. You should at least upgrade to 18.04
[20:40] <kc2bez> !eol | kiwi_11
[20:42] <kiwi_11> It is strange i got updates recently, it is second time after i installed it the last week. 18.04 was a bit slow for my old notebook. The old style was better.
[20:47] <kc2bez> The Ubuntu base is still under community support. If you issue a `ubuntu-support-status` in the terminal it will let you know the number of packages still supported.
[21:21] <kiwi_11> I sounds strange to me. It is EOL but there is a community support ? I have nevr heard about that. Not suport anymore but still supportet..
[21:32] <tomreyn> it's falling back to a lower support level basically, the lowest there is
[21:33] <tomreyn> effectively bugs may not get fixed and even security fixes will not be provided most of the time.
[21:33] <tomreyn> kiwi_11: ^
[21:37] <user760_> Hello, is there a convenient way (involving a GUI) to change your username on Lubuntu? I found out that through the "Users & Groups" that you can't change the name of the username you are logged in under.
[21:41] <tomreyn> if you'd like to do it graphically, you'd probably need to create a new administrative user, then log in as that, then rename the other user. but i'm not actually sure whether renaming existing users is possible then. doing so has some caveats. epcifically, many configuration files you have in  ~/.config/ will have full paths to applications or other configuration in them. and those configuration files would still point to the old usernames'
[21:41] <tomreyn> directory if the user account was renamed - and thus break.
[21:42] <tomreyn> user760_: ^
[21:42] <user760_> The reason I ask is is because, I'm selling some computers with Lubuntu and I want the customer who buys it to be able to change their username easily, as they wouldn't want to be stuck with the name "user".
[21:53] <tomreyn> user760_: you want an oem installation then
[21:55] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[21:56] <user760_> Is there a way I can do that for Lubuntu?
[21:56] <user760_> Use a Lubuntu OEM installation?
[21:57] <user760_> Because the computers that I'm trying to put them on have 4GB of RAM on 2 of the PCs.
[21:57] <user760_> And one with 2GB.
[21:57] <tomreyn> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2407265 suggests it works with Lubuntu 18.04 LTS
[22:03] <user760_> So I press F4 upon startup to install in OEM mode?
[22:03] <tomreyn> you could give it a try
 how to set taskbar for only displaying the apps listed on the desktop... my current setting will list all opened apps all from the desktop ... where is the configuration?
[22:04] <user760_> Ok, thanks.
[22:04] <user760_> I should've considered an OEM install in the first place.
[22:04] <user760_> I went through the hassle of installing things for the customer that it took up a lot of my time.
[22:06] <tomreyn> so you'll save a lot of time now, great!
[22:06] <kc2bez> @ctisme Which version of Lubuntu?
 19.04... i solved from taskmanager setting, thanks for the response @kc
[22:09] <kc2bez> No problem. Glad you figured it out.
 suitable for many tabs apps opened
[22:09] <kc2bez> It can help for sure.
 which version do you have ?
[22:10] <kc2bez> I am running the development release on this machine but I have others that run 19.04
 which dev rel @kc2bez
 i have 19.04 on others, but after first booting it will display virtual keyboard on the screen
 i don't know why but after rebooting i couldn't SSH the box because it still didn't login... how to solve that
[22:16] <kc2bez> 19.10. It will be released in October. I am on the development team.
 cool, in which part do you ?
 @ctisme [i don't know why but after rebooting i couldn't SSH the box because it still did …], i upgraded from 18.04 FYi
[22:18] <kc2bez> I help where needed. I have been focusing on the Calamares installer and settings as of late.
[22:20] <kc2bez> Weird you couldn't ssh. That shouldn't be the case but maybe something isn't starting in the right order there.
 after i login the box pingable
 Calamares -> qtpack manager?
 @ctisme [after i login the box pingable], where starting list should i check?
[22:36] <kc2bez> Calamares is the installer for Lubuntu since 18.10
[22:37] <kc2bez> So it sounds like the network service is starting  which is good @ctisme
[22:40] <kc2bez> To check on the sshd service you can issue a `systemctl status sshd`in the terminal @ctisme


[05:07] <acheronuk> is the armhf test queue stalled?
[05:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted beets [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.4.6-2]
[05:21] <acheronuk> yup. looks like armhf test runners are not doing much as far as I can see.
[06:35] <slangasek> acheronuk: thanks for flagging it. I'm not sure what's going on, the runners claim to be running; digging in
[06:39] <slangasek> acheronuk: currently they are working and taking tests from the queue.  Progress was flatlined before that for a couple of hours, for whatever reason
[06:39] <slangasek> but they're running now
[06:50] <estan> infinity: me and the upstream c-blosc author are struggling a bit in trying to reproduce that armhf failure. i've been trying with a recent version of QEMU while he's tried on a real ARM hw. just so i'm clear: you said the ubuntu packages are built on ARMv8 hw?
[06:52] <estan> infinity: i'm asking because i see now that the package build log indicates cmake detected the platform as armv7l (-- Building for system processor armv7l).
[06:52] <estan> are the builds running on ARMv8 hw, but in an ARMv7 VM?
[06:58] <mwhudson> estan: yes
[07:02] <slangasek> ttbomk no; they build in armhf chroots on ARMv8 VMs but lie about the cpu because otherwise lots of software makes bad assumptions at build time
[07:14] <estan> slangasek: hm okay. that's a good piece of info. i'll see if i can get something like that going. problem is i don't have any ARM hw :/
[07:15] <estan> trying to help an upstream author debug this failure: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/360527843/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-armhf.c-blosc_1.14.0+ds1-1_BUILDING.txt.gz , we suspect it's due to misaligned memory accesses, because the debian build of the same package succeeded, and that's apparently on ARMv7 hw.
[07:15] <estan> (and the alignment requirements are stricter on ARMv8).
[07:16] <estan> but so far i've had no luck in reproducing it on an ARMv8 machine in QEMU, eventhough from what i can tell of the QEMU code, it should do ARMv8 alignment checks.
[07:25] <estan> slangasek: i found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch/QemuDebootstrap now, so is the package building infrastructure using the approach described under "USING SYSCALL EMULATION" for the second stage debootstrap of the chroot?
[07:25] <estan> or is it using QEMU machine emulation?
[07:26]  * estan shudders at the thought of having to do nested full machine emulation to reproduce this.
[07:29] <mwhudson> oh are they only chrrots?
[07:30] <mwhudson> estan: i can try to build it on a porter box and then pastebin bits of syslog at you if that's helpful?
[07:44] <estan> mwhudson: anything would be helpful at this point, and much appriciated. it's the recent upload of c-blosc 1.14.0 to the bionic proposed pocket. i'm not sure where i can get the source package actually.
[07:44] <mwhudson> estan: i built it but accidentally in an arm64 chroot :)
[07:44] <mwhudson> building in armhf now
[07:44] <estan> thanks a lot.
[07:45] <mwhudson> estan: how do the tests run? is there a test binary i can simply run under gdb somehow?
[07:47] <estan> mwhudson: indeed there is. one of the tests that are failing are run with `./bench/bench blosclz` in the build directory.
[07:49] <mwhudson> estan: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wd6sjMxqPG/
[07:50] <mwhudson> estan: er, that's ./blosc/fastcopy.c:452
[07:52] <estan> mwhudson: many thanks! could you paste output of `bt` as well?
[07:52] <mwhudson> estan: one sec
[07:52] <mwhudson> i just deleted the whoe "case 8" bit and am re-running the tests
[07:52] <mwhudson> *whole
[07:57] <estan> ah yes, must be an alignment issue. something around there should probably be protected by an if !defined(BLOSC_STRICT_ALIGN).
[07:58] <estan> mwhudson: i gotto run to the bus, back in ~30 minutes, but it would be great if you could post your findings to https://github.com/Blosc/c-blosc/issues/223
[07:58] <mwhudson> estan: ok
[07:58] <estan> that's the upstream report, @FrancescAlted is the upstream author (i was just trying to help out).
[08:03] <mwhudson> estan: posted
[08:03] <mwhudson> hope that helps
[08:03] <mwhudson> (looks like it should!)
[08:26] <infinity> estan: To be clear, alignment isn't stricter on ARMv8, it's that ARMv7 kernels, by default, trap alignment errors and do fixups.  ARMv8 ones don't.
[08:26] <infinity> estan: That behaviour can be turned off on pure ARMv7 systems with a sysctl.
[08:27] <infinity> estan: But I'm guessing from backscroll that mwhudson's experiment helped you find the bug?
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: openjdk-11 (bionic-proposed/primary) [11~4-1]
[09:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-11 [source] (bionic-proposed) [11~4-1]
[09:42] <estan> infinity: ah thanks for clearing that up. yes indeed, mwhudson was very helpful. the upstream author has already made a fix based on the info (https://github.com/Blosc/c-blosc/issues/223#issuecomment-373314909).
[09:43] <estan> infinity: what do you think, should i nudge the debian package maintainer to make a patched debian package that you can sync again, or should there be made a patched ubuntu package?
[09:44] <mwhudson> how responsive is the debian maintainer to nudges?
[09:44] <mwhudson> that was would be better i think :)
[09:44] <infinity> estan: The bug is entirely valid for Debian too (those alignment traps are *expensive*), but probably sane to get mwhudson to test the patch first, if he still has his built tree.
[09:44] <infinity> s/built/build/
[09:45] <mwhudson> uh yes i do
[09:45] <estan> mwhudson: he was very responsive when i asked him to do the 1.14.0 release in the first place, so i'll go with that then :)
[09:45] <infinity> estan: Since the turnaround time of "get it in Debian, sync, find out it's still broken, repeat" isn't ideal.
[09:45] <estan> indeed.
[09:45] <infinity> estan: But yes, if mwhudson can confirm it's fixed, doing it through Debian is best.
[09:46] <infinity> mwhudson: Sorry to volunteer you, I can do it too, if you prefer. :P
[09:46] <infinity> mwhudson: I assume you did this in the bionic-armhf chroot on porter-arm64?
[09:46] <mwhudson> infinity: i did
[09:46] <mwhudson> building now
[09:46] <infinity> Ta.
[09:47] <mwhudson> assuming i drove quilt correctly which is not always a very good assumption
[09:47] <estan> when i asked for an update, i did so by making MRs to https://salsa.debian.org/debian/c-blosc , but i'm not sure that's the way to contribute to the package, because the debian packager quickly closed my MRs and did the update himself :)
[09:47] <infinity> estan: Just filing bugs in the Debian BTS with debdiffs attached is the general preferred method.
[09:47] <estan> but i'll make an MR there again if the patch turns out good, and he can decide if he rather do the patching himself instead of accepting MRs.
[09:47] <estan> aha.
[09:47] <infinity> estan: I'm sure as salsa becomes more popular, PRs might become more common, but that's certainly not the current Debian Way.
[09:48] <estan> alright. i'll dust off my debdiff making skills then.
[09:48] <mwhudson> estan: thanks for finding a problem with a package that takes 6 minutes, not 6 hours to build :)
[09:48] <infinity> Hahaha.
[09:48] <estan> mwhudson: heh, i was thinking the same thing. especially when i was trying to reproduce in QEMU :)
[09:49] <mwhudson> estan: built ok
[09:50] <estan> *starts drumroll*
[09:50] <mwhudson> fwiw this is what i did:
[09:50] <mwhudson> (bionic-armhf)mwh@rugby:~/c-blosc-1.14.0+ds1$ wget https://github.com/Blosc/c-blosc/commit/8a84d51487eed81431b0fa488805a62c2d8f0163.patch
[09:50] <mwhudson> (bionic-armhf)mwh@rugby:~/c-blosc-1.14.0+ds1$ quilt import 8a84d51487eed81431b0fa488805a62c2d8f0163.patch
[09:50] <mwhudson> (bionic-armhf)mwh@rugby:~/c-blosc-1.14.0+ds1$ rm 8a84d51487eed81431b0fa488805a62c2d8f0163.patch
[09:50] <mwhudson> (bionic-armhf)mwh@rugby:~/c-blosc-1.14.0+ds1$ dpkg-buildpackage
[09:50] <mwhudson> and now i'm going to bed
[09:50] <estan> many thanks mwhudson, sleep tight.
[09:51] <infinity> estan: FWIW, if you need to try to reproduce this in the future, the magic on an ARMv7 kernel to stop doing the traps is "cat 1 > /proc/cpu/alignment"
[09:51] <estan> if you have time to confirm the fix works on the GH issue that would be great, otherwise @FrancescAlted will just have to take my word for it :p
[09:52] <infinity> s/cat/echo/
[09:52] <infinity> I can't brain at 4am.
[09:52] <mwhudson> oh yes
[09:52] <estan> infinity: ah, good to know, thanks. when i was trying to reproduce it i was actually directly on an aarch64 QEMU VM, so i had misunderstood.
[09:53] <infinity> estan: Oh, an aarch64 VM with an armhf chroot would have reproduced it fine.
[09:53] <infinity> Albeit quite slowly, probably.
[09:53] <estan> ah, so i was close then, or well, getting the chroot set up would have taken some time.
[09:54] <infinity> debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch=armhf bionic directory/
[09:54] <infinity> That bit doesn't take long. :)
[09:55] <estan> :)
[09:55] <infinity> Well, this is also assuming the default qemu aarch64 machine supports armv7 (which is an optional add-on for armv8), but I imagine it does.
[09:55] <infinity> It might not.
[09:55] <infinity> Not sure I've ever checked.
[09:57] <estan> yea, i had that worry. i don't know either. i know it's uncommon among hw to not support it.
[09:57] <infinity> Not that uncommon.
[09:57] <infinity> Several server-oriented SoCs don't bother with the armv7 bit.
[09:57] <infinity> And likely more in the future.
[09:58] <infinity> I suspect a future Apple A-series SoC will also drop armv7 on whatever flag day they decide that olds apps don't matter anymore.
[09:58] <infinity> s/olds/old/
[09:59] <estan> alright, "know" was the wrong word. i may have based that off an old answer on askubuntu.com, which may even be wrong (https://askubuntu.com/questions/928249/how-to-run-armhf-executables-on-an-arm64-system).
[09:59] <infinity> (I suspect maybe phone-oriented SoCs will move in that direction, but I'd put money on Apple doing it first, cause they love to draw those lines in the sand and say "we supported your migration path for 2 years, now suck it.")
[09:59] <infinity> s/maybe/many/ ... I can't type.  It's time to not be here. :P
[10:00] <infinity> Actually, Apple may have already done it.  I remember a conversation with my brother recently about newer iOS versions dropping 32-bit support.
[10:00] <infinity> Which only really makes sense if they're also dropping the silicon bits.
[10:03] <infinity> estan: But yeah, the server SoC bit has put us in an irritating position, since our armhf infra is based on the theory that we can get armv8 servers that support armv7.  And in the very first generation of armv8 servers (which we run currently) that was true.  And now, it's not. :P
[10:05] <estan> ah yes.
[10:05] <infinity> I imagine we can get by for a good long while if we make the current armv8 kit armv7-only and buy new armv8-only kit for the future, but eventually, we need to just have the "32-bit is dead" discussion, and consider dropping it on the floor.
[10:05] <infinity> (along with i386, because ick)
[10:05] <estan> yea.
[10:06] <infinity> I intend to propose dropping both for 18.10, making 18.04 the last LTS with 32-bit support, but I also expect a bunch of push-back on one or both. :P
[10:08] <estan> heh. i won't cry any rivers, so you have my support.
[10:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-11 [s390x] (bionic-proposed/universe) [11~4-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-11 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/universe) [11~4-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[11:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (artful-proposed/main) [4.13.0-38.43] (core, kernel)
[11:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-ext-pack (artful-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[11:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-ext-pack (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[11:32] <LocutusOfBorg> sil2100, pleeeeeease ^^
[11:33] <LocutusOfBorg> sigh, you were right, you just pointed at rules, and postinst was bad :/
[11:33] <LocutusOfBorg> (techically not a big problem, that package works as expected anyway, just it is better to have them all at the same version)
[11:40] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: actually I did point out both ;)
[11:40] <sil2100> 12:28 < sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: in debian/postinst there's version=5.1.32 while the version of the package is 5.1.34 - is that ok?
[11:40] <sil2100> 12:28 < sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: same for debian/rules
[11:40] <sil2100> Anyway, looking!
[11:41] <apw> that really should be being fixed by the packaging ...
[11:42] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: eh, could you re-upload with -v ?
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (artful-proposed) [4.13.0-38.43]
[11:44]  * sil2100 AFK for a bit to get lunch
[11:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-11 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [11~4-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[11:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-11 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [11~4-1ubuntu1]
[11:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-11 [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [11~4-1ubuntu1]
[11:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-11 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [11~4-1ubuntu1]
[11:55] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry sil2100 I really didn't get that ping :/
[11:55] <LocutusOfBorg> reuploaded with -v
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-ext-pack (artful-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
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[11:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-11 [arm64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [11~4-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-11 [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [11~4-1ubuntu1]
[12:04] <estan> infinity1: i submitted a debdiff adding the alignment fix patch to the debian package: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=893000 , let's hope it'll be a quick affair.
[12:04] <ubot5`> Debian bug 893000 in src:c-blosc "c-blosc: Add upstream patch for unaligned access" [Important,Open]
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-11 [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [11~4-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-11 [i386] (bionic-proposed) [11~4-1ubuntu1]
[12:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: murano-dashboard (artful-proposed/universe) [1:4.0.0-0ubuntu1.1 => 1:4.0.0-0ubuntu1.2] (openstack)
[12:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: designate-dashboard (artful-proposed/universe) [5.0.1-0ubuntu1 => 5.0.1-0ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sahara-dashboard (artful-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 6.0.0-0ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: trove-dashboard (artful-proposed/universe) [9.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 9.0.0-0ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[13:01] <xnox> apw, as per http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.html linux-kvm and linux-meta-kvm should be promoted, but it needs bug subscriber. Can you subscribe the right kernel team to those packages?
[13:12] <ginggs> what needs to be done for this bug? LP: #1754843
[13:12] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1754843 in gdk-pixbuf (Ubuntu) " gdk-pixbuf version in artful > version in bionic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754843
[13:16] <cjwatson> that seems like a trivial copy-forward
[13:16] <infinity1> Yup.  Doing.
[13:16] <cjwatson> I just did
[13:16] <infinity1> Well, then.  Not doing.
[13:17] <cjwatson> :)
[13:21] <cjwatson> somebody should do a full scan for that sort of thing though.
[13:21] <ginggs> cjwatson, infinity1: thanks both of you
[13:48] <Guest65850> hello - I'd like to get a release team ack for uploading apparmor 2.12 (merged from Debian's 2.12-3) to bionic
[13:49] <tyhicks> lets try that again :)
[13:49] <tyhicks> I'd like to get a release team ack for uploading apparmor 2.12 (merged from Debian's 2.12-3) to bionic
[13:49] <Guest1006> argh... let me sort out irc problems and I'll be back
[14:02] <apw> xnox, ok subscribed ...
[14:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: strongswan (trusty-proposed/main) [5.1.2-0ubuntu2.7 => 5.1.2-0ubuntu2.8] (no packageset)
[14:22] <tyhicks> ok, back to the apparmor-2.12 upload...
[14:22] <tyhicks> here are the upstream release notes: https://gitlab.com/apparmor/apparmor/wikis/Release_Notes_2.12#highlighted-new-features
[14:22] <tyhicks> well, the features mentioned in the upstream release notes
[14:23] <tyhicks> the last two bullets there are bug fixes to bugs that affect Ubuntu
[14:23] <tyhicks> the first bullet is a new feature but only applies to suse systems as it is yast-specific
[14:24] <tyhicks> I think I'm fine uploading apparmor 2.12 without a FFe but that yast-specific feature is the slight gray area that I wanted release team approval for
[14:25] <tyhicks> the yast-specific feature is only in the python utils (apparmor-utils binary package) which are not seeded
[14:25] <apw> i don't think i would count a feature we do not and can not use as a new feature
[14:26] <apw> also i see that is bringing python 3.6 support, did we not just bump to that
[14:27] <tyhicks> that's how I felt about the yast feature, as well, but I had a conflict of interest since I'm involved in apparmor upstream
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-ext-pack [source] (artful-proposed) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:27] <tyhicks> oh, did we?
[14:27] <tyhicks> apparmor 2.12 includes additional policy rules that allow for python 3.6 paths
[14:27] <tyhicks> so, that'll be pretty important
[14:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-ext-pack [source] (artful-proposed) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:28] <tyhicks> I'll also mention that I ran through the entire test plan here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/AppArmor
[14:28] <tyhicks> this upload is very well tested
[14:29] <apw> the second of those pulled out ones, i seem to reember is something that snapd was tickling too
[14:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-ext-pack [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:29] <apw> tyhicks, from my niave reading of the changelog in full i don't see anything that sounds dangerous
[14:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-ext-pack [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:29] <apw> tyhicks, or anything which would tip you over the bar to needing an FFe, so i think you are good
[14:30] <tyhicks> apw: I feel the same way but wanted a +1 - thanks for taking a look!
[14:30] <apw> tyhicks, +1
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.13.0-38.43~16.04.1] (kernel)
[14:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted adobe-flashplugin [source] (artful-proposed) [1:20180313.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted adobe-flashplugin [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:20180313.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted adobe-flashplugin [source] (trusty-proposed) [1:20180313.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.13.0-38.43~16.04.1]
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (artful-proposed) [2:11.0.2-0ubuntu1.3]
[15:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:8.4.0-0ubuntu7.1]
[15:57] <nacc> xnox: ok with removing ruby-filepath? (i'll file bug) it seems to hang, and upstream only indicates ruby2.3 compat.
[15:57] <nacc> xnox: leaf package
[15:57] <nacc> xnox: i've got the fix for ruby-grape as well
[16:00] <Laney> stgraber: I'm going to deploy some more arm64 instances in a minute - any chance you could review that MP quickly so they get the new goodness?
[16:00] <xnox> nacc, yes, i was considering removing ruby-filepath too, go ahead
[16:00] <nacc> xnox: ack, thanks
[16:03] <xnox> nacc, if only armhf would finish soon.....
[16:04] <stgraber> Laney: link?
[16:05] <Laney> stgraber: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/341329
[16:06] <xnox> nacc, there are a couple things that are regressions w.r.t. openssl1.1
[16:07] <xnox> e.g. ruby-net-ssh is a suspect and the http-pipeline
[16:07] <xnox> rpdf is weird
[16:07] <xnox> and yard is fixed
[16:09] <nacc> xnox: good to know on yard
[16:09] <nacc> xnox: i'll trawl through the list today
[16:29] <xnox> nacc, ruby-html-pipeline uploaded; ruby-net-ssh uploaded
[16:29] <xnox> so there is very little left
[16:30] <xnox> nacc, i think we can simply wait for all the results today
[16:30] <xnox> from armhf, and revisit tomorrow
[16:31] <stgraber> Laney: +1ed
[16:31] <Laney> stgraber: thanks
[16:31] <Laney> stgraber: I'll grab you at some point to help me migrate the existing ones if that's OK
[16:31] <Laney> can't exactly remember what we did before
[16:32] <stgraber> Laney: ok. I thought we ended up just deploying a new one, didn't we? But converting an existing one should definitely be possible.
[16:33] <Laney> stgraber: I think we initially played on an existing instance, then tested a modified userdata
[16:33] <stgraber> ah, yeah, that rings a bell
[16:33]  * Laney does the split screen thing
[16:33] <Laney> hoepfully armhf will go down a bit faster
[16:33] <Laney> that or we kill another cloud
[16:36] <Laney> slangasek: ^-- lxd-armhf{11..13} provisioning
[16:36] <Laney> these ones with the new LXD stuff
[16:38] <nacc> xnox: ack
[16:41] <stgraber> tsimonq2: did it join your channel now?
[16:41] <tsimonq2> stgraber: Ah, yes it did.
[16:41] <tsimonq2> stgraber: Thanks!
[16:41] <stgraber> np
[16:55] <slangasek> Laney: cool.  Does this mean a (temporary) increase in the number of runners?
[16:57] <Laney> slangasek: 3x3 more, yeah
[17:13] <Laney> live now
[17:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pciutils [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.2]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-pylxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.7-0ubuntu1]
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted strongswan [source] (trusty-proposed) [5.1.2-0ubuntu2.8]
[19:12] <tsimonq2> Any chance I could get an SRU team member to release https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1739955 so it doesn't wait until Monday?
[19:12] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1739955 in qttools-opensource-src (Ubuntu Xenial) "Qt5UiTools.pc Requires: non-existent Qt5UiPlugin" [Medium,Fix committed]
[19:16] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: Seems like you're the person to poke today.
[19:19] <bdmurray> tsimonq2: looking
[19:40] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: Thank you!
[20:24] <slangasek> infinity, sil2100: FFe request LP: #1756177
[20:24] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1756177 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu) "FFe: e2fsprogs 1.44, support for largedir and ea_inode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756177
[20:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem [amd64] (xenial-proposed/universe) [4.13.0-1022.24] (kernel)
[20:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: trove-dashboard (xenial-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-1 => 6.0.0-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[20:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: murano-dashboard (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:2.0.0-1 => 1:2.0.0-1ubuntu1] (openstack)
[20:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sahara-dashboard (xenial-proposed/universe) [4.0.0-1ubuntu1 => 4.0.0-1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[20:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (trusty-proposed/main) [1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.1 => 1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.2] (ubuntu-server)
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (xenial-proposed/main) [2:9.1.2-0ubuntu4 => 2:9.1.2-0ubuntu5] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[20:44] <acheronuk> slangasek or infinity: would you have time to take a look at? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/1756066
[20:44] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1756066 in amarok (Ubuntu Bionic) "[FFe] Amarok 2.9.0 for Bionic" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:44] <tsimonq2> +1, it's the last KDE 4 release of Amarok and it'd be really good to get it in for the LTS.
[20:52] <nacc> xnox: fyi, ruby-grape is updated in debian and passes, i'll sync it
[21:07] <sil2100> slangasek: I can take a look at that in some minutes if infinity isn't around
[21:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted trove-dashboard [source] (artful-proposed) [9.0.0-0ubuntu1.1]
[21:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted designate-dashboard [source] (artful-proposed) [5.0.1-0ubuntu1.1]
[21:12] <nacc> xnox: and i think ruby-grape-entity n eeds a uupdate (they are 2.5 compat upstream)
[21:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted murano-dashboard [source] (artful-proposed) [1:4.0.0-0ubuntu1.2]
[21:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted trove-dashboard [source] (xenial-proposed) [6.0.0-1ubuntu1]
[21:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted murano-dashboard [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:2.0.0-1ubuntu1]
[21:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sahara-dashboard [source] (xenial-proposed) [4.0.0-1ubuntu1.1]
[21:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted horizon [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:9.1.2-0ubuntu5]
[21:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected horizon [source] (trusty-proposed) [1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.2]
[21:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted horizon [source] (trusty-proposed) [1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.2]
[21:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sahara-dashboard (artful-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 6.0.0-0ubuntu1.2] (no packageset)
[22:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected sahara-dashboard [source] (artful-proposed) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1.1]
[22:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sahara-dashboard [source] (artful-proposed) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1.2]
[22:43] <slangasek> xnox: util-linux stole the rfkill binary package from the rfkill source; do you know if the Ubuntu delta from rfkill 0.5-1ubuntu2 is merged?
[22:43] <slangasek> xnox: n/m, "This upgrade fix needs to be kept until after Ubuntu 16.04 LTS", which we are after ;)
[22:44] <xnox> slangasek, my util-linux merging was a bit "i hope not to break anything" type of merge
[22:44] <slangasek> xnox: though we do have some orphaned upstart conffiles now - let me take care of those


[00:00] <newz2000> mhall119: a lot of the a11y stuff has been implemented in the new theme
[00:01] <mhall119> damn it cjohnston, my inbox was 100% marked as read this afternoon :(
[00:02] <cjohnston> :-P
[00:02] <mhall119> newz2000: is the new theme available to the community?
[00:02] <newz2000> mhall119: yes
[00:02]  * newz2000 looks
[00:03] <newz2000> lp:canonical-isd-web/light-wiki-theme
[00:03] <mhall119> compatible license?
[00:04] <newz2000> I believe it's GPL, because Moin is gpl
[00:05] <newz2000> I'm in the process of shutting down, but I think I put a license and readme file in there for reference
[00:05]  * newz2000 -> out for a bit
[00:12] <cjohnston> stas: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-webthemes
[00:14] <cjohnston> stas: Is it ok to put you as the contact for the wordpress theme?
[00:14] <stas> sure
[00:16] <cjohnston> mhall119: you the contact for the django one?
[00:16] <cjohnston> MTecknology: ping
[00:18] <MTecknology> cjohnston: pong
[00:19] <cjohnston> MTecknology: you still want to be in charge of the light-drupal-theme?
[00:19] <MTecknology> sure
[00:19] <cjohnston> or the contact for it.. or whatever
[00:20] <MTecknology> sure
[00:25] <mhall119> cjohnston: sure
[00:27] <cjohnston> MTecknology: whats your LP name
[00:27]  * MTecknology .
[00:28] <cjohnston> ok
[00:32]  * MTecknology *
[00:32] <MTecknology> I like that more
[00:32] <MTecknology> it's pretty
[00:32] <cjohnston> ?
[00:33] <MTecknology> 18:32  * MTecknology *  <--- the * on both sides
[00:33] <cjohnston> lol
[00:37] <MTecknology> gotta run off
[00:38] <cjohnston> okie
[00:39] <mhall119> MTecknology: it probably only looks that was on irssi
[01:05] <cjohnston> newz2000: we shouldn't be using Ubuntubeta anymore correct?
[01:32] <MTecknology> no longer getting married :'I(
[01:32] <MTecknology> s/I//
[01:39] <cjohnston> you? :-(
[01:41] <cjohnston> mhall119: can you please review: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/ubuntu-community-webthemes/top-nav/+merge/52791
[01:58] <cjohnston> stas: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/ubuntu-community-webthemes/wordpress-readme/+merge/52793 https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/ubuntu-community-webthemes/709395/+merge/52792
[01:58] <cjohnston> please
[02:05] <mhall119> cjohnston: I have a test to take for class, maybe after
[02:06] <cjohnston> ok..
[02:07] <cjohnston> im off.. spend the rest of the night with hope
[02:07] <mhall119> have fun, tell her I said hi
[02:09] <stas> hmm, do i have to manually bzr merge things or lp handles that?
[02:11] <mhall119> you have to do it
[02:13] <MTecknology> cjohnston: wow.. firing things off all over
[02:13] <cjohnston> hehe
[02:13] <cjohnston> :-)
[02:13] <cjohnston> Trying to clean things up
[02:14] <cjohnston> MTecknology: there are a couple of bugs for you
[02:15] <MTecknology> i saw that; any chance you could assing me to them?
[02:16] <MTecknology> then I don't need to go through and find each of them
[02:19] <cjohnston> MTecknology: bug 595771 bug 650647 bug 650647 bug 595214 bug 596364  are all bugs that need to be checked to see if they are bugs on the drupal sites
[02:19] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 595771 in ubuntu-website (and 1 other project) "mouse over area on nav should be clickable (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595771
[02:19] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 650647 in ubuntu-website (and 2 other projects) "Check the footer color (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650647
[02:19] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 595214 in ubuntu-website (and 2 other projects) "current menu item not highlighted (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595214
[02:19] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 596364 in ubuntu-website (and 1 other project) "make top logo a link to the homepage (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/596364
[02:20] <cjohnston> i did assign you the one i know for sure
[02:20] <cjohnston> theres only like 20 bugs, so it isnt hard to look through
[02:20] <cjohnston> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-webthemes/+bugs
[02:20] <MTecknology> not affected by 596364 or 595214; definitely would have caught those
[02:21] <MTecknology> first two, maybe
[02:21] <MTecknology> I'll look through it when I have ambition back. I just got crushed in the worst possible way so I'm probably not fit for coding right now anyway
[02:22] <cjohnston> thats fine
[02:22] <cjohnston> im sorry to hear that dude
[02:22] <MTecknology> btw; you could do also affect project and toss ubuntu-drupal-theme in there and I'll catch it right away
[02:23]  * cjohnston would like to see ubuntu-drupal-theme be moved into ubuntu-community-webthemes
[02:24] <cjohnston> keep all theme work together
[02:24] <MTecknology> there's the whole ubuntu-drupal project group
[02:28] <stas> cjohnston: merged... also I added an workaround for slider speed, you can change that by adding class="slider" speed="1000"
[02:28]  * stas loggerhead shows weird revisions
[02:29] <cjohnston> so that would have to be edited by whoever has access to wp-admin?
[02:30] <stas> yep
[02:30] <cjohnston> ok
[02:30] <stas> the problem is that I dont know what's the speed of slider they want
[02:30] <cjohnston> any chance of being able to figure out the arrow bug?
[02:30] <cjohnston> lemme talk to jcastro tomorrow and see what i can find out
[02:32] <stas> sure
[02:32] <stas> this error drives me crazy ... http://i.imgur.com/WDNry.png
[02:33] <nhandler> Not sure who should get poked about this, but I figured you guys might be interested:
[02:33] <nhandler><PHONE_NUMBER> 20:24:12 <+tenach> Ahh, the Ubuntu server download is 404!
[02:33] <nhandler><PHONE_NUMBER> 20:24:55 <+tenach> I found a disparity!
[02:33] <nhandler><PHONE_NUMBER> 20:25:07 <+tenach> http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download doesn't work, but it's linked on there, when it shoudl be /business/ instead.
[02:33] <cjohnston> nhandler: how do they get there
[02:34] <cjohnston> is it the same as bug 732266
[02:34] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 732266 in ubuntu-website-content (and 1 other project) "Broken Download Link for Server (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732266
[02:35] <stas> who has access, please close bug 595771 bug 692785 bug 595214
[02:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 595771 in ubuntu-website (and 1 other project) "mouse over area on nav should be clickable (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595771
[02:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 692785 in ubuntu-website (and 1 other project) "Wordpress theme option to disable search (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692785
[02:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 595214 in ubuntu-website (and 2 other projects) "current menu item not highlighted (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595214
[02:35] <cjohnston> stas: you have access
[02:36] <MTecknology> stas: how to you make that happen?
[02:36] <stas> nah, http://i.imgur.com/WDNry.png
[02:36] <stas> i cand do anything
[02:36] <stas> its a known bug with my account
[02:36] <cjohnston> lol
[02:36]  * stas my account is a bug ;)
[02:37] <cjohnston> stas: unless you just fixed it, i believe 595214 effects uds.u.c
[02:37] <cjohnston> which is a wp
[02:37] <stas> works http://i.imgur.com/5Yrot.png
[02:38] <nhandler> cjohnston: Yep, looks like a duplicate of that bug (http://paste.ubuntu.com/578147/)
[02:39] <cjohnston> i swear i just tried it and it didnt stas
[02:39] <cjohnston> lol
[02:40] <stas> hmm, weird, i didn
[02:40] <stas> didn't touch any of that part
[02:40] <cjohnston> stas: is 692785 fix released
[02:40] <MTecknology> should we redo launchpad with django!?
[02:40] <cjohnston> yes
[02:41] <MTecknology> I'm actually not a fan of django
[02:41] <MTecknology> it takes a fully different approach to a framework from what I like; but from what I've seen it does a great job at what it does
[02:41] <stas> cjohnston: bug 692785 has some code pasted there that works, and it doesnt affect upstream version
[02:41] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 692785 in ubuntu-website (and 1 other project) "Wordpress theme option to disable search (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692785
[02:42] <stas> MTecknology: i might jump into porting lp to django :)
[02:42] <cjohnston> Your not going to put the plugin in the branch?
[02:42]  * stas quite a challenge
[02:42] <MTecknology> quite a challenge is making this week any worse
[02:42] <stas> cjohnston: i can, but is it required? i mean afaik it was just a third party request
[02:43] <cjohnston> I dunno
[02:43] <cjohnston> up to you
[02:43] <cjohnston> i can mark wont fix
[02:44] <cjohnston> MTecknology: is drupal effected by bug 595771
[02:44] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 595771 in ubuntu-website/light-wordpress-theme (and 2 other projects) "mouse over area on nav should be clickable (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595771
[02:44] <stas> or like that... i mean all you need is copy/cat that code to make it work... and the guy who asked didnt say it needs it upstream
[02:45] <cjohnston> ok
[02:45] <stas> cjohnston: btw, rev 22 made possible that code to work, so all I did is just added support to into theme to make it work
[02:46] <cjohnston> cool
[02:47] <cjohnston> stas: i think the footer is still off on all the community themes which really needs to be fixed
[02:47] <cjohnston> the image is whats off, i think the css is correct
[02:47] <cjohnston> iir
[02:47] <cjohnston> c
[02:48] <cjohnston> and then bug 732373 would be cool stas .. with an easy way to turn it off
[02:48] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 732373 in ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-wordpress-theme (and 1 other project) "Add Global Menu to uds.ubuntu.com (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732373
[02:48] <stas> cjohnston: where should I look for footer?
[02:48] <cjohnston> bug 650647
[02:48] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 650647 in ubuntu-website (and 2 other projects) "Check the footer color (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650647
[02:48] <cjohnston> there is a .png file in the branches
[02:49] <cjohnston> plus double check the css to make sure the color in the css matches canonicals design guidelines
[02:49] <MTecknology> cjohnston: shouldn't be
[02:49] <MTecknology> cjohnston: staging.profarius.com; staging7.profarius.com
[02:51] <stas> hmm, should the footer also be narrowed?
[02:51] <cjohnston> stas: unless its in the design guidelines, i think we were going with a full width footer as well as the main nav
[02:53] <stas> hmm, mine looks ok http://i.imgur.com/tIzXa.png
[02:54] <cjohnston> I've gotta go... have a good night all
[02:57] <stas> night
[04:34]  * MTecknology is now single
[14:31] <newz2000> cjohnston: yes, I think ubuntubeta is supposed to be first so that people with the experimental version see it over the normal version
[18:23] <cjohnston> newz2000: ok
[19:20] <peppe84> little answer :-) where is the moin theme now in production on w.u.c? this seem different https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/light-moin-theme (cause here there are large header and footer).
[19:38] <AlanBell> peppe84: it is different
[19:40] <AlanBell> peppe84: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-webmonkeys/canonical-isd-web/light-wiki-theme
[19:44] <cjohnston> AlanBell: should we remove light-moin-theme to avoid confusion?
[19:44] <cjohnston> or is light moin theme for community use
[20:05] <AlanBell> I don't know the answer to that
[20:15] <peppe84> oh yes, thaks :-)
[20:15] <peppe84> *thanks
[20:42] <cjohnston> hey stas
[20:42] <stas> hello cjohnston
[20:42] <stas> howdy
[20:43] <cjohnston> Two things for ya...
[20:44] <cjohnston> on bug 731443 jcastro said to just do whatever feels right.. so maybe just increase it by default by a couple of seconds?
[20:44] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 731443 in ubuntu-website (and 1 other project) "photo slide show on uds.u.c goes too fast (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731443
[20:44] <peppe84> AlanBell: but in the repo print.css is missing... this is right?  print action use this css for this
[20:44] <cjohnston> and he liked the idea of bug 732373.. is that something you can make happen?
[20:44] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 732373 in ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-wordpress-theme (and 1 other project) "Add Global Menu to uds.ubuntu.com (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732373
[20:45] <peppe84> and the msie.css
[20:47] <stas> cjohnston: i can push an update for bug 732373 tomorrow if its not late
[20:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 732373 in ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-wordpress-theme (and 1 other project) "Add Global Menu to uds.ubuntu.com (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732373
[20:47] <AlanBell> peppe84: sorry, I don't know. newz2000 has been handling the new moin theme, I just did a little testing of it.
[20:48] <newz2000> peppe84: if you file a bug on ubuntu-website or something, ping me with the bug # and I'll file properly
[20:48] <stas> what about speed, with the latest version code, i can push an update right now or wait till tomorrow and get both fixed
[20:48] <newz2000> (still figuring out best place for that)
[20:48] <cjohnston> stas: nope.. it isnt.. I am not going to submit a request to update the theme until they are both done
[20:49] <stas> cjohnston: btw, did you find editors to change the content, or we will have to push fixes through branches?
[20:49] <cjohnston> I'd like to try to get it filed by EOD tomorrow tho if possible
[20:49] <cjohnston> What content in specific
[20:50] <AlanBell> newz2000: apparently IS are getting a programmer to work for a couple of weeks fixing the openID plugin and then they are going to re-attempt a test upgrade to 1.9
[20:50] <stas> well 1st the one that is broken on homepage, second, all the bugs except the upper bar can be fixed by editing content
[20:50] <newz2000> ah, cool. I've been hearing rumblings of the 1.9 thing.
[20:52] <cjohnston> rumblings or grumblings
[20:52] <cjohnston> stas: i think i know who...
[20:52] <cjohnston> lets wait till we push the update and then go with it stas
[20:52] <stas> ok great
[20:53] <stas> i can pastebin some layout for 1st page, to make it look a little less broken
[20:53] <cjohnston> cool
[20:53] <stas> and guide the editor on where and what widgets to be placed
[20:53] <cjohnston> I think we may be creating a custom branch
[20:53] <cjohnston> havent decided yet
[20:53]  * stas maybe right some docs for that, since its a community thingie ;)
[20:57]  * stas off for a while
[20:58] <cjohnston> Thanks stas


[00:03] <multipass|2> idk, maybe throw up a screenshot
[00:13] <Guest84702> hello
[00:18] <Marzata> can you recommend some thinkpad for xubuntu?
[00:19] <multipass|2> just make sure u google the model and ubuntu to check it over
[00:32] <Marzata> T500?
[00:57] <mysteriousdarren> T500? look in the ubuntuforums.org list for compatible laptops
[01:19]  * Marzata is listening to http://youtu.be/Oev9akI1B7g
[02:39] <douglas__> The continuation of trying to get a workable usb stick with x11.10
[02:39] <douglas__> Anyone want to step up and tell how to?
[02:45] <|Slacker|> douglas__, what do  you wanna do?
[02:46] <Unit193> If your'e on Windows, I'd recommend either unetbootin or LinuxLiveUSB
[03:23] <douglas__> looking for help in making a usb stick with bootable x11.10
[03:25] <douglas__> #xubuntu
[03:26] <douglas__> join xubuntu
[03:27] <douglas__> looking for help in making a bootable usb stick with xubuntu
[03:35] <bert4389> douglas__ : do you want to install xubuntu from USB or install/boot xubuntu from the usb drive?
[03:38] <douglas__> I want to take a fresh usb stick and put x11.10 on it
[03:39] <douglas__> and then be able to boot from and run from the usb
[03:39] <bert4389> are you using Windows or Linux to put Xubuntu onto the usb drive?
[03:39] <nanotube> douglas__: have you verified the checksum of your iso? have you tried another usb stick?
[03:40] <douglas__> yes, I've verified.  I can get to the xubuntu boot up screen ( a blue, kind of sun burst pattern) then get an error message
[03:41] <bert4389> douglas__: have you tried unetbootin?
[03:41] <nanotube> douglas__: well, maybe it's the usb stick. do you happen to have another one?
[03:41] <bert4389> it looks pretty straightforward
[03:41] <douglas__> the message talks about not being able to mount something
[03:42] <douglas__> I've repeated the format, iso process maybe 4 times now and always get as far as the blue xubuntu screen and always the same message
[03:43] <douglas__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/789878/
[03:45] <nanotube> well, try a different usb stick, maybe yours has some bad bits or something
[04:34] <nanotube> are display power management issues known? i set my power settings to put display to sleep after some minutes... and it did that for a while, then stopped.
[04:37] <holstein> nanotube: i noticed that from gnome2's settings, you have to do it in 2 places... you set that for plugged, and unplugged.. i though i had lost settings but actually was just in a different state
[04:39] <nanotube> holstein: yes i set that for both ac and battery (slightly shorter for battery)
[04:39] <holstein> i would say it might be graphics driver related then
[04:39] <holstein> i remember some issues after sleeping even with some intel hardware i used to use
[04:41] <fennec> hello~
[04:42] <nanotube> but it did work for a bit. well... could be compiz screwed it up. somewhere in between i ran compiz --replace, then after some more time, xfwm4 --replace to go back...
[04:42] <fennec> I've been having an issue connecting to a monititor  via vga. It doest detect it at all
[04:42] <nanotube> maybe after a reboot or a relogout/login it'll get back :)
[04:42] <nanotube> i wonder how soon the next kernel update is coming down the pike... otherwise it may be a while before i reboot ;)
[04:42] <nanotube> fennec: does the monitor work?
[04:43] <fennec> yes
[04:43] <fennec> very
[04:43] <holstein> fennec: it might not... you can explore other drivers, assuming there is one available... otherwise, the support might just not be there.. sometimes you can force a mirror from the bios
[04:43] <fennec> the reason i want to work is cause my laptop has a flickering screen
[04:43] <fennec> its a g72gx
[04:43] <fennec> i got the nvidia drivers
[04:43] <fennec> idk what to do
[04:47] <deathbysushi> howdy all, have a quick q if someone can help
[04:48] <fennec> we can try :)
[04:48] <deathbysushi> how do i get my full name in the me menu instead of just my username
[04:48] <deathbysushi> gconftool -s /system/indicator/me/display --type int 2
[04:48] <deathbysushi> does not work
[04:49] <deathbysushi> on xubuntu 11.10
[04:49] <fennec> me menu?
[04:49] <deathbysushi> it shows your username
[04:49] <deathbysushi> plus lock screen, shut down, etc
[04:49] <fennec> ahhh
[04:50] <fennec> lemme check, I remove mine but I think I know how
[04:50] <deathbysushi> i know with gnome, you could run the above gconf command in and it would work
[04:50] <fennec> :)
[04:50] <deathbysushi> awesome :D
[04:51] <fennec> hmm im not seeing how to change it from the panel settngs
[04:51] <fennec> have you tried the action button item?
[04:51] <fennec> it does virtually the same thing with an icon
[04:52] <fennec> if it matter to you
[04:52] <fennec> otherwise idk sorry
[04:52] <deathbysushi> thatss alright, thank you for the help!
[04:52] <deathbysushi> im gonna dig around, ill let you know if i find anything
[04:53] <fennec> okay
[04:53] <fennec> and btw
[04:53] <holstein> deathbysushi: theres an alternative to gconftool
[04:53] <fennec> In the panel settings, its called the session menu
[04:53] <fennec> for future reference
[04:53] <deathbysushi> i saw
[04:53] <deathbysushi> thanks for the help :D
[04:55] <fennec> try the action button
[04:55] <fennec> btw
[04:55] <fennec> did you just want to change it ot other text?
[04:55] <fennec> or an icon?
[04:55] <deathbysushi> just wanted it to say my full name
[04:55] <deathbysushi> vs my user name
[04:56] <fennec> ah
[04:56] <fennec> try this
[04:56] <deathbysushi> action button works equally well
[04:56] <fennec> askubuntu.com/questions/63172/how-to-remove-the-user-name-from-xubuntu-session-menu-panel-applet
[04:57] <deathbysushi> i saw this
[04:57] <deathbysushi> but its saying to use the action button
[04:57] <deathbysushi> which i think i will do
[04:57] <holstein> deathbysushi: nah... i cant find it... sorry..
[04:57] <deathbysushi> its no problem
[04:57] <deathbysushi> thanks again for the help1
[04:57] <deathbysushi> *!
[04:57] <fennec> np
[04:57] <fennec> btw
[04:58] <fennec> your username reminds me  of the killer pufferfish or whatever in japan
[04:58] <nanotube> deathbysushi: maybe there's something in settings editor
[04:58] <deathbysushi> fugu
[04:58] <fennec> yeah lol
[04:58] <deathbysushi> that was my inspiration
[04:58] <fennec> >.<
[04:58] <fennec> aha 8D
[04:58] <deathbysushi> gnight
[05:02] <fennec> nanotube: http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G72Gx/#download
[05:02] <fennec> holstien: http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G72Gx/#download
[05:03] <fennec> thos are the drivers for my comp
[05:03] <fennec> any suggestions?
[05:04] <holstein> fennec: you can just type "h" or "hol" and hit the 'tab' key :)
[05:04] <fennec> holstein:
[05:04] <holstein> :)
[05:04] <fennec> okay :)
[05:04] <fennec> sorry olol
[05:04] <holstein> nah... nothing to be sorry about... its just easier
[05:05] <holstein> fennec: i wouldnt expect to find linux drivers there... you'll need to go to the nvidial site... but where i would go first is in the repos
[05:05] <fennec> i already got the nvidia drivers
[05:05] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[05:06] <holstein> fennec: then, i would try the other drivers, even the vesa, though i would not expect more support there
[05:06] <Ben64> downloading drivers from nvidia's site isn't supported and will likely break on any kernel upgrade
[05:06] <holstein> yeah, but if you want to try to get the latest and greatest to provide some functionality, you might need to go to the site
[05:06] <Ben64> i use a PPA with new ones
[05:06] <fennec> 1sec
[05:07] <holstein> Ben64: cool... maybe that will help fennec get the external VGA support going
[05:07] <nanotube> well, try the vesa driver - if it doesn't work with that, then probably your card is hosed.
[05:07] <nanotube> everything works with vesa (however slowly)
[05:08] <fennec> http://i44.tinypic.com/4u9cec.png
[05:08] <fennec> maybe try the newer one?
[05:08] <fennec> and check out my mad bosozuko van desktop 8D
[05:09] <Ben64> what version is that
[05:09] <nanotube> fennec: yes can't hurt to try the current-updates version, i think. and, nice van. :)
[05:09] <fennec> I hope to live in one someday
[05:09] <fennec> I got high aspirations
[05:09] <Ben64> and what version ubuntu do you have?
[05:09] <fennec> :D
[05:09] <fennec> xubuntu 11.10
[05:10] <fennec> I customized it thoroughly
[05:10] <Ben64> ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[05:10] <Ben64> they have 290.10
[05:11] <fennec> will that help?
[05:11] <Ben64> depends what version you have
[05:11] <fennec> imma try curent verwsion first
[05:11] <fennec> then imma learn to spell
[05:11] <holstein> fennec: theres only one wat to find out!
[05:12] <fennec> okay imma restart in a min
[05:12] <Ben64> Package: nvidia-current (280.13-0ubuntu6)
[05:12] <Ben64> oh, its not too far behind
[05:12] <Ben64> i'm on Lucid, so my version is ancient
[05:13] <fennec> aha
[05:13] <Ben64> Package: nvidia-current (195.36.15-0ubuntu2)
[05:13] <fennec> I decided on xubuntu 11.10 rather than ubuntu 11.04 in fallback
[05:14] <Ben64> i stick to LTS on my main computer
[05:14] <fennec> lts?
[05:14] <Ben64> long term support
[05:14]  * holstein too
[05:14] <nanotube> i'd have stuck to the lts... but my new comp had driver issues with lts but no such issues with oneiric...
[05:14] <nanotube> so oneiric it was
[05:14] <Ben64> they release every two years, and are supported for 3 years on desktop
[05:15] <Ben64> my laptop hates 12.04, i'm not looking forward to that upgrade
[05:15] <holstein> 5 now, right?... 12.04 will be 5 for the desktop
[05:15] <Ben64> i thought 5 was for server only
[05:15] <holstein> Ben64: yeah, it was
[05:15] <Ben64> was?
[05:15] <holstein> its a new development
[05:15] <Ben64> cool
[05:16] <nanotube> ah nice. that said... that's a lot of extra support burden...
[05:16] <holstein> im actually not 100% sure it went through, and i think xubuntu and lubuntu and the others get to decide if they want to provide 5 years or not
[05:17] <nanotube> they can't even make a non-buggy default gui (unity, i'm looking at you), and here they go doing 5 years on desktop lts support... heh.
[05:17] <Ben64> unity pisses me off
[05:17] <Unit193> Xubuntu and Lubuntu will not have 5 years
[05:17] <Unit193> Kernel updates, sure
[05:17] <Ben64> xfce is pretty cool, but not enough plugins for the panel for me
[05:18] <fennec> Ive been thinking of getting something to put plasm active on
[05:18] <fennec> with opensuse and kde
[05:18] <fennec> the tablets for it are expensive
[05:18] <fennec> im thinking a touchscreen/convertible netbook
[05:18] <nanotube> Ben64: have you seen xfce4-goodies? :)
[05:18] <Ben64> yeah
[05:18] <fennec> I'm downloading them right now :o
[05:18] <nanotube> still not enough? :P
[05:19] <Ben64> i want cpu, gpu temps, cpu and mem graph
[05:19] <Ben64> didn't see any of those
[05:19] <nanotube> Ben64: i saw those
[05:19] <holstein> well, we havent seen a unity in LTS yet... but its not for me
[05:19] <nanotube> xfce4-something-sensors does temps
[05:19] <Ben64> i don't like any UI that doesn't let me move things around
[05:19] <nanotube> graphs, there's i think system-monitor
[05:19] <holstein> Unit193: yeah, we all get to take advantage of the repos being up for 5 years :)
[05:20] <Ben64> nanotube: system-monitor does bars only
[05:20] <nanotube> xfce4-sensors-plugin <- sensors
[05:21] <nanotube> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-cpugraph-plugin <- pretty graphs?
[05:21] <Ben64> hmmm, didn't see that one
[05:21] <Ben64> is there one for memory as well? :D
[05:22] <nanotube> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-systemload-plugin
[05:22] <nanotube> seems to include memory
[05:23] <fennec> I'm having trouble doenloading it though
[05:23] <Ben64> hm
[05:23] <nanotube> fennec: downloading what?
[05:23] <Ben64> well I have until April 2013 to figure it out
[05:23] <fennec> Can you explain as if I were 5 years old (which I'm truly not that far away from)
[05:23] <fennec> downloading xfce4 goodies
[05:23] <fennec> the website is unspecific
[05:23] <nanotube> Ben64: finally, if all else fails, there's 'genmon' which you can script to do whatever you want. http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-genmon-plugin
[05:24] <nanotube> fennec: "sudo apt-get install xfce4-goodies"
[05:24] <fennec> ah thanks :p
[05:24] <Ben64> nanotube: !!!
[05:24] <Ben64> that sounds awesome
[05:24] <nanotube> Ben64: yes, yes it does :)
[05:24] <Unit193> Makes me want to say !apt :P
[05:24] <nanotube> Ben64: (haven't used it myself because the stock stuff does me well enough... but yea, my little scripty-ears perked up when i saw it :) )
[05:24] <nanotube> Unit193: hehe
[05:24] <Unit193> You can also open Synaptic and search for it there if you really must have a GUI
[05:26] <Unit193> xfce4-datetime-plugin is a good one, replaces the annoying clock
[05:26] <Ben64> nanotube: would it be able to make a graph? :)
[05:26] <nanotube> Ben64: the manual says "The string can also contain markup to displayed an image, a bar, a button and a personalized tooltip. "
[05:26] <Ben64> a bit of hax + imagemagick = memory graph
[05:26] <nanotube> so i'm guessing if you collect the data and generate a graph, it'll display it.
[05:27] <nanotube> righto :)
[05:27] <nanotube> Unit193: why is the clock annoying, and how's the datetime plugin better?
[05:28] <w30> j #kubuntu
[05:28] <Unit193> nanotube: Double click to open Orage in the center of the screen? No.  This is less annoying to me, just one thing I would love to have fixed
[05:28] <nanotube> w30: traitor! :)
[05:28] <nanotube> Unit193: ah the datetime one lets you open orage? i have orage running separately...
[05:29] <w30> nanotube, whatzzatt?
[05:30] <fennec> imma restart
 j #kubuntu :)
[05:30] <fennec> be right back
[05:31] <nanotube> and re: orage: korganizer, i'm leaving you. :)
[05:31] <Unit193> nanotube: No, the current one does
[05:33] <w30> nanotube, I keep one partition in a state of llimbo for different distros; every time something get a good review I try it.  I don't want a app menu that shows 5 apps on my 24 in monitor before I have to click show more..
[05:37] <nanotube> w30: yea same here. i'm a unity escapee :)
[05:38] <w30> I don't want fingerprints and peanut butter all over my screen either.
[05:38] <Unit193> w30: This isn't exactly the place to bash other flavors/DEs
[05:38] <nanotube> i gave it a fair shake for two weeks... and i actually had no issues with <winkey><start typing app name> because i'm a fast typist and am always at the kb. but it worked really poorly with multiple workspaces, and some apps failed to show up in alt-tab.
[05:39] <fennec> back
[05:39] <nanotube> hiya fennec
[05:39] <fennec> it fixed my boot but still no monitor
[05:39] <fennec> so good anyway
[05:39] <w30> Unit193, you are right but I just gotta get my vote in once in a while. Sorry
[05:39] <Ben64> no monitor? or no second monnitor?
[05:39] <fennec> are there any hdmi>vga cables?
[05:39] <fennec> yeah^^
[05:39] <nanotube> Unit193: isn't #distroname by definition a channel to complain about $everyotherdistro ? :D
[05:39] <Ben64> have you tried nvidia-settings
[05:40] <Ben64> its like ubuntu looked at windows 8 and said "yes!!"
[05:41] <fennec> no i haventt
[05:41] <fennec> I'll do it
[05:41]  * w30 joins #bitch_at_unity_on_topic
[05:41] <fennec> theres one?
[05:41]  * nanotube follows :)
[05:41]  * fennec joins
[05:41] <Ben64> fennec: it always works for me to add a monitor or change res or anything
[05:41] <nanotube> there is now :D
[05:56] <neothecat> i am installing xubuntu on a dell latitude E6500, and all the header and footers of the install windows are just blocks of pink.  it doesn't seem to be effecting the install, but i was wondering if this is an omen for problems in the future, maybe video card issues.
[06:05] <fennec> monitors working
[06:05] <fennec> :D
[06:05] <fennec> Thanks ben64
[06:05] <nanotube> fennec: what did you do?
[06:05] <nanotube> new driver?
[06:05] <Ben64> :D
[06:05] <nanotube> or that config panel?
[06:05] <fennec> new driver but idk if it mattered
[06:05] <fennec> i used nvidia config
[06:05] <fennec> yeah
[06:06] <nanotube> ic cool
[07:25] <krinetic> hello, on a fresh install of xubuntu 10.10 , how can I make my user to autologin. I forgot to change it when it installs and now i cant find the option in the settings menus.
[13:07] <digital_ownage> hello
[13:07] <digital_ownage> guys
[13:07] <digital_ownage> i am making an own distro (just for learning etc)
[13:07] <digital_ownage> and i am using xubuntu for it
[13:07] <digital_ownage> because it is fast and stable etc
[13:08] <digital_ownage> but now i want to know what all the programs are who are preinstalled
[13:08] <digital_ownage> ...
[13:08] <digital_ownage> well
[13:08] <digital_ownage> cyzo
[13:08] <Marzata> you got own repos?
[13:08] <digital_ownage> eh
[13:08] <digital_ownage> no
[13:08] <digital_ownage> i am just doing it by edditing the squahfs
[13:08] <digital_ownage> lol
[13:09] <digital_ownage> ...
[13:09] <knome> digital_ownage, check the dependencies (of dependencies) of xubuntu-desktop
[13:09] <digital_ownage> ok thank you
[13:09] <digital_ownage> cyzo
[13:09] <digital_ownage> cyao *
[13:14] <digital_ownage> back
[13:27] <_Pete_> digital_ownage: I think what you could do is to chroot to your squashfs mounted distro image, after that you can use normal package tools to add/remove what you want
[13:27] <_Pete_> I assume that squashfs thing is you have mounted .iso image or something?
[13:31] <silverpower> hmm, is there any reason why I'm hovering around 60% CPU on a totally idle desktop? I tried toggling off compositing but it didn't seem to help any.
[13:34] <digital_ownage> lol
[13:34] <digital_ownage> yes i do that pete
[13:34] <digital_ownage> i unsquashfs it
[13:34] <digital_ownage> and then i mount it
[13:34] <digital_ownage> then i chroot it
[13:35] <_Pete_> then you can use: dpkg -l to list all installed packages
[13:44] <Sysi> silverpower: open terminal and run "top" to see what eats your cpu (task manager in menu should work too)
[13:47] <Alan> is display management at all improved in 11.10 compared to 11.04?
[13:47] <Alan> i.e. placement of multiple monitors, etc.
[13:48] <Sysi> I can't check default GUI for that because I use nvidia but arandr works as always
[13:50] <silverpower> Sysi: it was X eating most of the CPU time. A restart seems to have gotten it down to a more reasonable 5-6% - my best guess would be my laptop had yet another thermal panic.
[13:50] <Alan> I seem to be in some awkward position at the moment where something is fighting the display management...
[13:50] <Alan> if i xrandr --output VGA1 --off, a second or so later the monitor comes back on...
[13:51] <Alan> and whatever's setting it back, sets the monitors up the wrong way around
[13:51] <Alan> however when i exit xfce and login again, it comes up a different way
[13:54] <Alan> oh, great, it's gnome-settings-daemon :(
[14:04] <Sysi> silverpower: too much uptime and/or bad driver
[16:14] <spongi> ciao a tutti
[17:17] <douglas> #xubuntu
[17:17] <douglas> trying to make a bootable usb stick with x11.10
[17:20] <hsyed> Howdy, Anyone able to help me with a fakeraid (motherboard based nvidia in raid 5) based installation. The xubuntu 11 installer doesn't seem to be installing grub correctly. I have told the installer to install the mbr on "/dev/mapper/nvidiaxxxx" (the device and not a partition). When I reboot I just get a blinking cursor (instead of insert install media and press any key to continue). What
[17:20] <hsyed> do I need to do ?
[17:21] <hsyed> will this -> http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic153346.html <- fix my problem ? i.e., chroot and manual grub installation ? I'm suspecting an issue with the softraid implementation or ?
[17:26] <hsyed> yep, that fixed the problem.
[17:27] <holstein> douglas: i use unetbootin
[17:27] <sewerurchin> unetbootin via linux is always a winner
[17:28] <sewerurchin> and available for win I hear
[17:28] <hsyed> it works in win
[17:31] <andy_> hello
[17:33] <Guest14699> hello
[17:45] <multipass> how do i update pidgin, i installed the new ppa and tryed to update
[17:45] <douglas> thanks holstein.  will get it and try that.
[17:46] <Sysi> multipass: search for pidgin with package manager, ppa package may have different name
[17:51] <douglas> interesting to note: unetbootin doesn't show x11.10 only up to 11.04.
[17:52] <holstein> douglas: ?
[17:52] <Sysi> depends about version you got, I alwasy use it with separatedly downloaded .iso:s
[17:52] <douglas> I wonder if that's been my issue. Trying to make a bootable 11.10 when it's not able to yet?
[17:52] <holstein> douglas: just install the software, and use whatever iso you downloaded
[17:52] <holstein> douglas: 11.10 *is* available
[17:53] <douglas> yes, I'm running unetbootin with x11.10 iso as we speak
[17:54] <douglas> now it seems unetbootin has gotten stuck
[17:54] <holstein> douglas: douglas go ahead and download the image from somewhere like this
[17:54] <holstein> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/11.10/release/
[17:54] <holstein> then point unet to that downloaded iso... it'll look like it has hung up for a bit in the middle...
[17:55] <douglas> I've run md5sum on my 11.10 iso and have a good number
[17:56] <douglas> holstein:  OK I'll  be more patient.  It's at 11th file of 188 files
[17:57] <holstein> douglas: if the 11th file is 'the big one', it'll take a while... if 10 minutes from now, you have no stick, you can try formatting it before making the bootable stick :)
[18:05] <cablop> would xubuntu run fine with 384 GB RAM only?
[18:05] <Sysi> it should, but things like webbrowser maybe don't
[18:08] <holstein> you can download it and try it live, and see for yourself what it will be like on that hardware... if you can tolerate it live, installed, it should be quite nice
[18:13] <Kurdistan> hi I wanted to report a bug. gnome system log does not work in xubuntu, but ksystemlog works just fine.
[18:14] <knome> Kurdistan, can you please report the bug in launchpad
[18:14] <Sysi> !ubuntu-bug
[18:14] <Sysi> hrm
[18:14] <knome> hey Sysi :)
[18:14] <Sysi> !bug
[18:14] <Sysi> oh hi old man
[18:14] <knome> ha :)
[18:15] <knome> at least i'm not looking like that (right now): http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/589324/jaipur
[18:15] <Kurdistan> knome :( I have forgotten my launchpad account
[18:15] <knome> (great game btw!)
[18:16] <Sysi> (racist!)
[18:16] <knome> Kurdistan, you can reset your password at https://login.launchpad.net/+login
[18:16] <knome> Sysi, that was about the beard, not the race :)
[18:18] <Kurdistan> knome, done. let se when I will get it or if I did correct.
[18:18] <Kurdistan> otherwise some of you can do it.
[18:19] <knome> Kurdistan, as long as you can get the bug filed, it will be eventually triaged in a vast majority of the cases
[18:19] <knome> of course, if you can give correct information, it's much easier ;)
[18:20] <Kurdistan> knome, :) I gave here.
[18:27] <foxxy> Hey
[18:27] <foxxy> Its fennec
[18:27] <foxxy> Nick was taken
[18:27] <foxxy> :p
[18:27] <multipass> anyone able to use multiple monitor setups? whenever i try to change a setting, the amdcccle crashes?
[18:28] <foxxy> I'm using one right now
[18:28] <foxxy> I did it with nvidia-settings
[18:28] <multipass> i have ATI
[18:28] <multipass> :\
[18:28] <foxxy> just got it figured out yesterday
[18:28] <Sysi> multipass: I think there's tool called aticonfig
[18:28] <foxxy> see if there is a similar driver setup tool
[18:28] <foxxy> ati-settings ? lol
[18:28] <multipass> well im using the cataylst control center
[18:29] <multipass> which is the gui for ati
[18:29] <multipass> i clic apply and it just crashes
[18:29] <foxxy> idk
[18:33] <Daew> Hello
[18:33] <foxxy> hi :D
[18:35] <Daew> How can I see/update my hardware drivers? I can't find it anywhere!
[18:36] <Sysi> menu -> settings -> additional drivers, otherly you pretty much already have the best
[18:36] <foxxy> menu> settings> additional drivers
[18:36] <foxxy> olol
[18:36] <Sysi> you can try kernel-team ppa if you want all the newest
[18:37] <Daew> Additional drivers doesn't find anything (It says: No proprietary drivers are in use on this system)
[18:37] <Sysi> do you have problem with something or are you just stuck on winxp-mode?
[18:38] <multipass> anyone else use ATI?
[18:38] <Daew> I tried to run some game but it says that it cant initialize graphical display
[18:39] <Daew> and it says under recommendations that I should update video drivers and enable hardware video aceleration
[18:39] <Sysi> multipass: yuo should try aticonfig, looks quite simple, like "sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right"
[18:40] <Sysi> Daew: what game, what graphics card? are you using wine?
[18:40] <Daew> Spiral knights (http://www.spiralknights.com), I have intel hd graphics, no wine
[18:43] <Sysi> Daew: run "grep -i "Direct rendering" /var/log/Xorg.0.log" does it give any output?
[18:44] <Daew> [    27.100] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled
[18:44] <Sysi> okay, you should have 3D working
[18:45] <Sysi> what does "uname -a" print?
[18:45] <Daew> [    27.100] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled
[18:45] <Daew> Ops
[18:45] <Daew> Sec
[18:45] <Daew> Linux daew-SATELLITE-C660 3.0.0-14-generic-pae #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 22:07:10 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:46] <Daew> I was able to start this game from the browser but colors were not working properly, so I installed it and now it doesn't work anymore (even if I uninstall and restart pc and try to run from browser again)
[20:28] <foxxy> Hallo
[20:38] <foxxy> hellu :3
[20:38] <foxxy> How do I register me nick?
[20:38] <Sysi> !register
[20:39] <foxxy> Thanks
[20:43] <Guest60961> :D
[20:44] <Guest60961> trying to choose a nick olol
[21:50] <Kingsy> does a vnc server come stock with xubuntu?
[21:50] <Sysi> I think not
[21:50] <multipass> can you search for files/folders in the stock file manager
[21:51] <Sysi> no, use catfish which is installed by default
[21:55] <multipass> o nice
[21:56] <multipass> anyone use gnome do on xfce?
[22:06] <TheSheep> multipass: I prefer synapse
[22:08] <multipass> any reason for that?
[22:08] <multipass> ive never used it
[22:08] <TheSheep> it's pretty similar, but more agnostic
[22:09] <TheSheep> also it seems to be simpler
[22:17] <nanotube> hm, synapse eh? what's it got that alt-f2 and terminal tab-completion don't got?
[22:17] <Sysi> hotkey *and* tab-completion afaik
[22:20] <TheSheep> nanotube: and search
[22:21]  * holstein prefers kupfer over gnome-do
[22:21] <nanotube> TheSheep: doesn't the terminal have search? ;)
[22:21] <nanotube> well, guess i'll just give it a try
[22:22] <TheSheep> nanotube: to be honest I don't use it that often
[22:22] <nanotube> heh now you tell me :D
[22:22] <TheSheep> nanotube: but it's convenient to type things instead of picking them from menu
[22:22] <TheSheep> nanotube: like "suspend"
[22:24] <nanotube> heh ic
[22:24] <nanotube> i do like to keep my hands on a kb. but isn't there a "blablasuspend" command or some such in the terminal.
[22:24] <nanotube> bbiaf
[22:25] <TheSheep> nanotube: even if there is, it requires sudo
[22:25] <Sysi> actually it could be possible with upower or something as regular user
[22:25] <Sysi> like mounting and unmounting is with gvfs
[23:10] <ElJosh> Hi Guys
[23:11] <ElJosh> Hi killbillkill
[23:11] <killbillkill> hi


[11:55] <Deckard111> hey everyone ;)
[11:56] <Deckard111> quick question: In which order is the yamol configuration executed? would it be possible to have several 'users' sections?
[11:57] <Deckard111> I would like to create a user and write a file into the user directory.
[11:57] <Deckard111> But I have other files I need to write before that
[11:57] <Deckard111> so if I write the files first, the user directory is not there, and if I create the user first, then other files are missing.
[11:58] <Deckard111> That's why I am asking ;)
[12:05] <aciba> Deckard111: Hello!
[12:07] <aciba> Not sure about the use case but, there are two module that could serve as a pre-hook and post-hook repectively: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html#bootcmd and https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html#runcmd. More info: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/boot.html
[12:08] <aciba> So you could execute arbitrary code with cc_bootcmd before cc_users_groups and with cc_run_cmd after after cc_user_groups is executed, allowing you to do any additional handling needed
[12:10] <Deckard111> ok, thank you - will look into it
[12:41] <minimal> Deckard111: you can only have a single "users:" section and all users will created at the same time
[12:42] <minimal> the order that c-i modules are defined in the /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg file controls the order that they are executed but I would not recommend changing the order
[12:43] <minimal> what files do you need to create before users creation?
[12:46] <minimal> Deckard111: write_files runs before user creation but you can also specify "defer: true" in a write_files section for it to instead run late in the configuration sequence
[19:02] <Deckard111> Thank you everyone for the responses!


[13:44] <ajaxmike> just upgraded from 13.10 server & 0.27 to 14.04 server.  Upgrade failed so I had to reinstall from DVD.  Reinstalled mythbuntu but mythconverge can't be found
[13:51] <superm1> ajaxmike: you reinstalled from 14.04 DVD?
[13:51] <superm1> ajaxmike: which role did you pick during install?
[14:00] <ajaxmike> yes, from dvd.  can't remember which role
[14:00] <superm1> ajaxmike: well it sounds like somehow the database wasn't set up correctly
[14:01] <superm1> was there any errors during install?
[14:01] <ajaxmike> install went ok.  I used other and asked to install over existing, but it wiped my profile and all apps
[15:06] <sabhain> anyone know how to fix the starting time that shows up when you go to the guide from within live tv?
[15:07] <sabhain> it changed sometime between 0.25 and 0.27
[15:07] <sabhain> now it goes all the way back to the beginning of the programming being watched.
[15:07] <sabhain> it used to start the guide at the current time .. is this a setting somewhere?
[15:13] <ajaxmike> Is there a guide somewhere on how to set up the mythtv database.  The install didn't do it.
[15:25] <tgm4883> ajaxmike: what do you mean it didn't do it?
[15:26] <ajaxmike> there is no mythconverg database.  I cant even tell if mysql is running
[15:27] <tgm4883> is mythtv-database installed?
[15:27] <ajaxmike> i'll check
[15:28] <ajaxmike> yes
[15:34] <tgm4883> ajaxmike: ok, is mysql running then? 'sudo service mysql status'
[15:38] <ajaxmike> tgm4883: mysql start/running, process 1355
[15:41] <tgm4883> ajaxmike: but when you login to mysql you don't see mythconverg db?
[15:44] <ajaxmike> I just installed Tora.  I see mythconverg there, but backend doesn't see it.
[15:45] <tgm4883> this is a fresh install?
[15:50] <ajaxmike> I was running 13.10 and .27, but the upgrade to 14.04 wouldn't boot, so I did a reinstall of 14.04 over the existing partitions
[15:50] <ajaxmike> I don't think a mythtv user was created
[15:50] <tgm4883> did you install Mythbuntu or Ubuntu+MythTV?
[15:51] <superm1> mythtv user is part of the livefs in 14.04
[15:51] <superm1> maybe because it tried to save data stuff got weird
[15:51] <superm1> do a "dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database"
[15:51] <superm1> and that should reset the password for the mythtv database and user
[15:58] <ajaxmike> access denied for user mythtv
[15:58] <tgm4883> you set the password and are getting that error elsewhere?
[15:58] <tgm4883> or you get that error when you run that?
[16:03] <ajaxmike> dpkg only asked me if other computers would access the database.  I said yes and it terminated.  I then ran mythtv backend, entered country and language, went to setup.  It said can't connect.  When I hit cancel it went to a terminal screen where it said access denied for user mythtv
[16:03] <tgm4883> !mysql
[16:03] <Zinn> If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, perform the following to reconfigure it: [1] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it later)  [2] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [3] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[16:04] <tgm4883> do that ^
[16:04] <ajaxmike> ok, thanks
[16:07] <superm1> tgm4883: this might be related to the effort that was requested a while back not to wipe mysql databases
[16:07] <superm1> i don't know that we actually tested what happens
[16:08] <tgm4883> that would have been just not wiping /var
[16:25] <ajaxmike> Zinn:  tgm4883:  nope, I still get access denied for user mythtv.  I used mythtv for the password.
[16:25] <Zinn> Hi ajaxmike, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[16:25] <ajaxmike> haha, Zinn is a bot
[16:25] <Zinn> Hi ajaxmike, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[16:26] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:26] <tgm4883> superm1: that doesn't make a ton of sense because that should reset the password on the DB
[16:26] <superm1> rm ~/.mythtv/config.xml
[16:26] <superm1> and let it redo it
[16:42] <ajaxmike> superm1 tgm4883: didn't work, but definitely config.xml:  paste.ubuntu.com/7330983
[16:43] <superm1> ajaxmike: i assume the same thing happens from the upstart job on mythbackend?
[16:43] <superm1>  /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[16:43] <superm1> check ~mythtv/.mythtv/config.xml
[16:43] <superm1> that's the one that the upstart job is using
[16:43] <tgm4883> superm1: how do you open links in irccloud?
[16:44] <superm1> click em?
[16:44] <tgm4883> yea that doesn't work
[16:44] <superm1> really?
[16:44] <tgm4883> yep
[16:44] <superm1> maybe it's because i have clickable links installed
[16:44] <tgm4883> 13.10, google chrome
[16:44] <superm1> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/clickable-links/mblbciejcodpealifnhfjbdlkedplodp
[16:44] <superm1> try that
[16:44] <tgm4883> you do realize you just gave me a link I can't click on ;)
[16:44] <superm1> haha
[16:45] <tgm4883> installed and refreshed, no go
[16:46] <tgm4883> totally works in FF though
[16:46] <tgm4883> ajaxmike: can you connect to the db using the mysql client? Should be 'mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg' then it will prompt you for the password you set
[16:47] <superm1> i doubt it's this, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/irccloud-nick-colors/jhgnpcfeahhdnaddcbfhpncapfciline
[16:47] <superm1> but i have that installed too
[16:49] <tgm4883> nope
[17:09] <ajaxmike> superml tgm4883:  /etc/.mythtv/config.xml: paste.ubuntu.com/7331156
[17:17] <superm1> ajaxmike: well that's a problem, can you rename /etc/mythtv/config.xml to /etc/mythtv/config.xml.old and then redo that database setup thing that Zinn mentioned
[17:17] <Zinn> Hi superm1, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[17:17] <superm1> it should regenerate it for you with the new database password
[17:19] <superm1> well actually do it in this order.  1) rename the file, 2) dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[17:19] <superm1> 3) dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[17:19] <superm1> hopefully that should redo the whole thing
[17:20] <ajaxmike> tgm4883:  mythtv as password didn't work
[17:21] <ajaxmike> superml:  OK
[17:39] <ajaxmike> superml tgm4883:  that worked.  thanks
[17:46] <ajaxmike> !help
[17:46] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[18:07] <superm1> tgm4883: i guess we should run though a similar case like that to look at fixing for later
[18:07] <superm1> i'm not really sure which part of the "upgrade" path broke it
[19:14] <coryc> Have a MSI AMD ITX/60GB SSD/8GB ram/HDMI system that I've been trying to install mythbuntu 12.04 on for a month or so but it would crash during install. Saw that 14.04 was released yesterday and managed to get it installed and followed the quick-start guide. I'm experiencing a few issues and was curious if they were known issues before I start spending hours digging through google search results.
[19:14] <coryc> 1. When I go into the Myth control center and try to enable any plugins I get an error message: "exception in comparestate of plugin mysql, plugin disabled".
[19:14] <coryc> 2. I played around clicking stuff enough that I was able to get the mythbuntu repo enabled and stay enabled but when I try to run "sudo apt-get update" I get an error message that the repo can't be found...when I browse to the url it doesn't exist.
[19:14] <coryc> 3. I was able to get my hdhomerun configured and am able to watch live tv & record shows, however they stutter. When I watch the stream via VLC there is no stutter.
[19:14] <coryc> 4. When I attempt to play a DVD it tells me that there isn't a DVD drive. When I exit to the desktop the DVD icon is there on the desktop and I can click on it and see the DVD files.
[19:15] <coryc> I'm trying to play with this ITX system to see if I would be able to convert my main media center from Windows 8.1 WMC since I'm not able to get the 8.1 Update 1 to install.
[19:18] <tgm4883> coryc: 1) is a known issue, and in process of being fixed
[19:18] <tgm4883> coryc: 2) what is the URL it's trying to go to?
[19:21] <coryc> tgm4883:  I don't have the box in front of me at the moment and turned it off so I can't SSH into it but it was trying to go to a repo that I believe starts with ppt and was trying to go to "trusty" but the folder didn't exist on the repo
[19:22] <coryc> I can look tonight when i get home
[19:25] <tgm4883> coryc: it should exist for trusty for both 0.27 and 0.28
[19:30] <coryc> tgm4883:  I'm trying to see if I can ssh into my firewall and check my proxy logs
[19:34] <tgm4883> coryc: yea I'll need the URL to check. Those PPA's should have existed for quite a while
[19:43] <coryc> no go, but my m-i-l is visiting so I just asked her to turn it on so I can get into it
[20:00] <coryc> tgm4883:  it looks like I disabled the mytbuntu repo via the control centre before I turned it off so it's not failing now. However, in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ dire I have mythbuntu-0_27-trusty.list & mythbuntu-testing-trusty.list. the testing one is empty however I think I remember that the url it was trying to get to had "testing" in it.
[20:01] <tgm4883> Ah yea that one doesn't exist yet
[20:01] <coryc> and I do know that dir was empty when I first started looking into the repo as I thought it might fix problem 1 if I could manually enable the repo.
[20:01] <tgm4883> Let me look at it
[20:15] <coryc> tgm4883:  ok, i'm not entirely positive but I think that this may be the url it was trying to connect to: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/testing/ubuntu/dists/trutsy/main/binary-amd64/
[20:15] <coryc> I'll try to confirm it tonight when I get home
[20:15] <tgm4883> coryc: yea that one would throw an error. We don't have any trusty packages for it right now, looking at fixing that
[23:32] <hipitihop_> I have two issues, myth told me there was a new version of mythstream theme available an dafter switching I can can't get into to the advanced setup, says advanced.xml missing. Is there a CLI command to reset theme ?
[23:32] <hipitihop_>  second issue, is recently (about two weeks) my audio output stopped working. I Have nivida atom based system using hdmi to tv, video playback is fine but no sound. mixer seems to have all audio enabled not muted


[02:22] <Juzzy> ya most everyone does
[02:23] <Unit193> "Most everyone" in here or where?
[02:24] <cyberanger> Juzzy: if that includes you, and you have any snapshots, they're going to start charging (I got an email about it today)
[03:20] <Juzzy> https://www.cloudorado.com/cloud_server_comparison.jsp
[03:21] <Juzzy> most all cloud providers charge for snaps
[03:42] <cyberanger> Oh yeah, and I get that, but digital ocean was an exception.
[03:42] <Juzzy> ah
[03:42] <Juzzy> i need to find a better cloud backup place to dump all my shiznits
[03:49] <cyberanger> I'm planning to get into the VPS and Cloud Storage rackets shortly
[03:50] <Unit193> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/06/adobe_reverses_decision_to_kill_npapi_flash_plugin_for_linux/
[03:53] <cyberanger> Well, always have pepperflash and html5
[04:48] <Juzzy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxjzsrk4k7kx6ye/Video%20Sep%2005%2C%206%2015%2007%20PM.mov?dl=0 - homemade m80 in a pool
[10:57] <minasota> cyberanger: I received the same email, It said I would be charged an extra 0.17 a month.
[11:06] <cyberanger> Yeah, it's not bad unless you really have a ton of large snapshots, It'll be $4.00 for me, but it's stuff I can try to thin out before then
[11:11] <cyberanger> I'm thinking I saw my droplet have SeaBIOS with iPXE at boot once, using that I plan to boot into finnix and then I can just rsync it out to the laptop.
[11:25] <cyberanger> I really am not using DO at the moment (I was in toronto, and really the only reason was my favourite radio station started doing geoip filtering. I've worked out a different way to fix it)
[13:14] <wrst> I think I am going to be out .64 or something like that
[13:14] <wrst> actually I need to upate my snapshot and delete a couple
[18:07] <Juzzy> when i quit serverbeach i had a snap from an old ass vm from like 2013, I didn't know it was out there
[18:07] <Juzzy> it was automatically done once a day, and when I deleted the server it didn't clean up and left one out there, I paid a few bucks for like 2-3 years before I realized


[11:22] <Legendario> hi, there is a long standing bug on ubuntu that affects only languages that make use of ç on international keyboards...
[11:22] <Legendario> I don't know if it has been reported or not
[11:23] <Legendario> but it's been known since 13.04
[11:23] <Legendario> can anyone in the @channel help on that?