[18:42] <DRebellion> newberduesday: excellent. then open up a terminal and type "irssi"
[18:43] <DRebellion> !editor | gverig
[18:43] <ubotu> gverig: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[18:43] <newberduesday> ok, reading, thanks
[18:44] <XBehave> is ndiswrapper installed by default?
[18:44] <gverig> DRebellion: I am using gedit, it cannot process smb:// URLs.
[18:44] <gverig> DRebellion: (or maybe it can but my particular URL throws it for a loop... either way I can't open files)
[18:44] <wittyphotons> so i'm having some sound card issues
[18:45] <wittyphotons> namely that i don't know how to get the new one i bought working
[18:45] <DRebellion> gverig: try mounting the smb share and then all your programs can use its files ;)
[18:45] <wittyphotons> lemme know when it's not too crowded in here to the point where i can explain further
[18:45] <DRebellion> wittyphotons: just go for it (its pretty quitet
[18:46] <bintrue|work> Anyone else having a problem with updating hplip?
[18:46] <wittyphotons> oh okay
[18:46] <Neeku> hello
[18:46] <Veinor> Whenever I set the brightness, it always changes back to full after a while
[18:46] <wittyphotons> well i purchased a vista-loaded hp laptop awhile back, wiped vista off of it and installed gutsy gibbon
[18:46] <Neeku> i've downloaded ie for linux, but I don't know how to compile it. could you please help me?
[18:47] <wittyphotons> my sound card and wireless card weren't natively supported but i got that all sorted out after jumping through a lot of hoops and with some drivers etc.
[18:47] <gverig> DRebellion: Can I use Nautilus to mount or do I mount with good old command line? I am trying to replace my desktop with Linux and if I will have to mount every share I need to use manually...  Especially since other programs open these URLs relatively easily (Firefox, open office). But editing config files with open office would kinda suck too :)
[18:47] <wittyphotons> but for a linguistics project i have, i need to record the sound card's output of some internet voice chat
[18:47] <mamep> anyone?
[18:47] <pike_> Neeku: there is a script that does all the setup work for you you just chmod +x scriptname then ./scriptname
[18:47] <wittyphotons> and my sound card, no matter what i do, can't do this
[18:47] <wittyphotons> so i was advised to get a cheap usb sound card and i did.
[18:48] <d33d> ---- So who has seen fullcirclemagazine.com?
[18:48] <Veinor> gverig: you can mount using the command line, gimme a bit
[18:48] <wittyphotons> and now i have this usb sound card and i don't know how to set it up as my primary sound card for purposes of enabling capture on alsamixer so that i can capture audio output from a voice chat program running in wine and recording it in audacity to a sound file.
[18:48] <danand_> gverig - if you need your shares to mount automatically at boot time you can edit the /etc/fstab file
[18:48] <wittyphotons> i'm open to other methods, but i've been told that this is generally the easiest way.
[18:49] <d33d> ---- So who has seen fullcirclemagazine.com?
[18:49] <Veinor> is there any way to get multiple apps to be able to play audio at the same time?
[18:49] <wittyphotons> aplay -l gives me the following output:
[18:49] <wittyphotons> * keks_` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[18:49] <wittyphotons> err
[18:49] <jetscreamer> Veinor: sound server
[18:49] <Veinor> explain?
[18:49] <wittyphotons> not that
[18:49] <wittyphotons> one sec
[18:49] <wittyphotons> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[18:49] <wittyphotons> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
[18:49] <wittyphotons>   Subdevices: 1/1
[18:49] <wittyphotons>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[18:49] <FloodBot1> wittyphotons: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:49] <sneki> zdr
[18:50] <sneki> alo
[18:50] <sneki> ima li
[18:50] <AndyGraybeal> what is the life-cycle for ubuntu?
[18:50] <newberduesday> alright I'm back... :-/ I'm on irssi, I typed /SERVER ADD -network irc.freenode.net, but I can't seem to find any other information to put in (I'm getting, "not enough parameters"
[18:50] <sneki> nekoj
[18:50] <wittyphotons> ;(
[18:50] <wittyphotons> any idea how to help?
[18:50] <gverig> Veinor: I know how to mount through command line. But since I need to do this rather often I would like to use GUI (otherwise I can just SSH to the box and use 'vi' :-\
[18:51] <wittyphotons> anyone?
[18:51] <crdlb> newberduesday: /server add -network freenode irc.freenode.net
[18:51] <newberduesday> wow, obvious. thank you :)
[18:52] <jetscreamer> Veinor: you need a sound server, or so i hear
[18:52] <Veinor> Ah, got it to work. it was a problem with audacity, not my system.
[18:52] <jetscreamer> !sound server
[18:52] <ubuntu> My account is no longer part of the sudo group somehow. Is there any way I can add it back, from the liveCD perhaps?
[18:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:52] <gverig> danand_: It's an option. But I would much rather first try to figure out whether there are text editors that can use functionality provided in Ubuntu. Open Office can use it, Firefox can too, gedit cannot- this leads me to thinking that the best possible answer would be to find a text editor that can use functionality provided by the file manager
[18:52] <XBehave> where are ndiswrapper drivers stored?
[18:52] <wittyphotons> ??
[18:53] <cyberpoof> g'morning
[18:53] <Veinor> ubuntu: yeah, boot into the recovery mode
[18:53] <ubuntu_> i did it
[18:53] <wittyphotons> gah.
[18:53] <Veinor> you'll have a root console
[18:53] <ubuntu_> dang
[18:53] <cyberpoof> I about to install ubuntu desktop for first time
[18:53] <newbieduesday> haha
[18:53] <newbieduesday> yay!
[18:53] <cyberpoof> i installed server not knowing it was no gui..
[18:53] <cyberpoof> heh
[18:53] <scribe05> left for a minute...looking for help with this error message when I update with synaptic E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.51_amd64.deb: Verification on package /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.51_amd64.deb failed!  anyone know a fix so I can update?
[18:53] <ubuntu> Veinor: Alright, after I boot into the recovery console, what should I enter?
[18:53] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/interesting/national-geographic%e2%80%99s-best-science-images-for-2007/
[18:53] <Kitar|st> nice
[18:54] <PriceChild> scribe05, <jdong> thanks for waiting more than 5 minutes for someone to answer you <jdong> try an apt-get clean and update
[18:54] <Daviey> whoops
[18:54] <xmb> Hello. I am looking for a console utility for Ubuntu that will provide stdout information on the peak amplitude of an audio sample (or even better, sliding window of mic input) It does not need to be precise, the script in which it will reside will be easy to calibrate. Any ideas?
[18:54] <Brucevdk> Could somebody point me into the right direction if I wanted to upgrade Beagle from 0.2.18 to 0.3.3 the same way the package maintainer does? If it's a simple package with little to no dependencies I usually just checkinstall it. However, this isn't the case with Beagle. I only have minimal experience with rolling my own packages (debuild etc)
[18:54] <Veinor> ubuntu: I think admin
[18:55] <audela> Hello, I am under padder and I have set a mailserver with postfix/mysql virtaul users and it works well. When I try to use maildrop as virtual_transport the email are dlivered only if there is no cc in the mail(only one delivery address...) the logs tells "mail system configuration error" anybody have a clue ?
[18:55] <Veinor> ubuntu: adduser username admin
[18:55] <Veinor> or
[18:55] <ubuntu> Thank you :)
[18:55] <Veinor> look at /etc/sudoers
[18:55] <Alex2> !ask
[18:55] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:55] <hwilde> !fixgrub
[18:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:56] <newbieduesday> So, now that I'm on irssi and I've joined the channel and all that, why was it important for me to do this? haha
[18:56] <Veinor> ok yeah, it's admin, good. worried I messed his install up even more.
[18:56] <guille1983> I give up, would somebody please help me? sendmail doesnt work, I am trying to use php mail function and got no results
[18:56] <Grab> hi
[18:56] <Grab> can you guys please suggest any free shell where i can host eggdrop ?
[18:56] <bluefoxx> ok, so i have this other computer that is perfectly capabel of running ubuntu, its from 2000 ish, runs a celeron at 1ghz, has 128 mb ram and doesnt like to boot from the cd properly, the panels dont load so i used this computer that has more ram and a faster cpu to install ubuntu onto the hard drive and ran 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' from booting up in text based mode. however once i boot into normal mode in it the splash screen cras
[18:57] <newbieduesday> bluefox, does it turn black?
[18:57] <newbieduesday> i had that problem, i think a lot of peopel did
[18:57] <scribe05> back to my update problem.  I tried apt-get clean and got E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:57] <scribe05> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[18:57] <[nrx]> Grab, go and buy one. They're not expensive
[18:57] <bluefoxx> newbieduesday: it goes to text based mode, been hanging there since 7 this morning[[11 now]
[18:57] <Grab> [nrx] which one ?
[18:57] <chana> min 256 ram for live cd
[18:58] <fabiano_user_ubu> tem alguem do brasil ?
[18:58] <[nrx]> Grab, any. Google.
[18:58] <jetscreamer> scribe05: sudo ?
[18:58] <VotePedro> scribe: do you have synaptic or add/remove open?
[18:58] <PriceChild> !br | fabiano_user_ubu
[18:58] <ubotu> fabiano_user_ubu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:58] <Grab> [nrx] will it be TOTALLY private ? (i mean they wont see what server i connect the eggdrop to ?)
[18:58] <bluefoxx> chana: i booted it on 128 before, it worked, just really sluggish[it actually has 192 mb, my bad]
[18:58] <dangb> I have the desktop cd (kubuntu), is it possible to mount an already existing partition to /home during the installation process?
[18:58] <scribe05> I have update manage open right now
[18:58] <danbhfive> !xconfig | bluefoxx try this, it might be just your xserver setup
[18:58] <ubotu> bluefoxx try this, it might be just your xserver setup: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[18:58] <[nrx]> Grab , of course they will. Any admin on a server will see where you're connecting to
[18:59] <BadHorsie> what's the channel for desktop effects?
[18:59] <VotePedro> scribe: close it then run that command with sudo
[18:59] <bluefoxx> danbhfive: ok, thanks much ^^
[18:59] <Grab> [nrx] that's sad :(
[18:59] <Veinor> BadHorsie: #compiz
[18:59] <edju> Running the stock 2.6.22-14-generic kernel.  I want to dwnload the source.  Should I get "linux-source" or "linux-source-2.6.22"?
[18:59] <[nrx]> Grab, that'll always be the case lol
[18:59] <newbieduesday> seriously why did people insist that I use irssi?
[18:59] <VotePedro> why does irssi suck?
[18:59] <newbieduesday> no
[19:00] <newbieduesday> I just want to know what the benefits are,
[19:00] <newbieduesday> is it to be forced to use code more often?
[19:00] <newbieduesday> so I learn?
[19:00] <VotePedro> i dunno
[19:00] <VotePedro> i like xchat, but im using gaim
[19:00] <AndyGraybeal> vote pedro.. hah.. from a movie
[19:00] <VotePedro> lol yeah
[19:00] <taz> I am having a weird issue.. I let Ubuntu do its updates this morning, and now I have no web access... it hosed my Moblock, and I am also getting the error:
[19:00] <taz> linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[19:01] <bluefoxx> newbieduesday: well i prefere irssi to xchat/pidgin as its lighter on my cpu[an OCed celeron D @ 3.6ghz]
[19:01] <AndyGraybeal> VotePedro; what movie again, i can't remember
[19:01] <scribe05> looks like the help worked...thanks
[19:01] <neverblue> taz the linux-image was part of the update today
[19:01] <newbieduesday> So is it a performance thing?
[19:01] <VotePedro> napoleon dynamite
[19:01] <VotePedro> scribe: no prob
[19:01] <dangb> I have the desktop cd (kubuntu), is it possible to mount an already existing partition to /home during the installation process?
[19:01] <AndyGraybeal> aah yea
[19:01] <VotePedro> i need to watch that movie, since im sick and skipping school ya know
[19:02] <scribe05> now if anyone here can tell me why my soundcard loads every other time I start my computer, I'd be all set
[19:02] <VotePedro> what soundcard do you have?
[19:02] <mamep> nemilar : i can't use any command only if i use the full path ????
[19:03] <Tredje0ye> Hey there. Ubuntu won't connect to my router. The module is loaded, the wire is properly connected, but the network manager and dhclient won't connect to my network at all
[19:03] <Alex2> Hi. I've got an problem with probably whole GStreamer - everything connected with it or something like this (KDE based apps are grayscale too) is grayscale; all videos and visualisations (in Totem and Rythmbox, I heard that it uses GStreamer-based plugins for visualisations, but I ain't sure) are GRAYSCALE. I tried reinstalling all parts of GStreamer in the Synaptic, but it wouldn't help :/.
[19:03] <mamep> hello, i have a strange problem when i do sudo -i my paths are lost... how can i fix it?
[19:04] <scribe05> actually , I don't remember what kind of card it is.
[19:04] <VotePedro> you can find out with lspci, scribe
[19:04] <VotePedro> ...i think, that is
[19:05] <scribe05> the sound care is  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[19:05] <hansderelict> when trying to manually edit trip_points, i always get 'permission denied' even as root. what's going on?
[19:05] <bluefoxx> yo, anyone know what brand the on-board graphics on a asus tusi-m mobo are?
[19:05] <pike_> mamep: sudo -s?
[19:05] <Alex2> Hi. I've got an problem with probably whole GStreamer - everything connected with it or something like this (KDE based apps are grayscale too) is grayscale; all videos and visualisations (in Totem and Rythmbox, I heard that it uses GStreamer-based plugins for visualisations, but I ain't sure) are GRAYSCALE. I tried reinstalling all parts of GStreamer in the Synaptic, but it wouldn't help :/.
[19:06] <ouellettesr> how do i make a tar.gz from command line?
[19:06] <aconbere> what do people recommend in terms of imap servers?
[19:06] <aconbere> (dovecot, courier, cyrius)?
[19:06] <Otacon22> wich is the package that contains the command xv?
[19:06] <aconbere> UW
[19:06] <aconbere> :P
[19:06] <Alex2> ouellettesr: type in cmd line "man tar" for help.
[19:07] <kasra> Alex2: try gstreamer-properties
[19:07] <hoarycripple> ouellettesr, tar -czvf
[19:07] <ouellettesr> thanks hoarycripple
[19:07] <scribe05> hey votepedro...I am still having the update problem...my update manager kicked on and ried to download and install the same things I got from the apt-get and I have the same error
[19:07] <taz> So since the update hosed my moblock, and the new kernel won't finish installing.... anybody help?  I don't even know where to begin...
[19:07] <corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[19:07] <danand_> ouellettesr - tar -cpgvf files.tar.gz files
[19:08] <kasra> Alex2: done ?
[19:08] <bluefoxx> anyone have a asus tusi-m mother board?i need to know what the onboard graphics are[im basically on dial up here, otherwise io would do a web search]
[19:08] <Alex2> Yea, I've just tested my webcam and I can see mysefl, IN COLORS! YEah.
[19:08] <VotePedro> scribe: try killing the update manager and then running sudo dpkg --configure
[19:08] <taz> Another strange problem I have is that when I try to boot the kubuntu cd, it starts booting then blanks my screen.. I have a PCI-E video card, and onboard video and it isn't displaying anything on either
[19:08] <kasra> Alex2:=)
[19:08] <danand_> ouellettesr - use bzip instead - you get better compression - use the "j" option instead of "g"
[19:09] <Alex2> THX, kasra.
[19:09] <KuK0x> oola
[19:09] <KuK0x> qe tla<
[19:09] <kasra> Alex2:;)
[19:10] <deadlyallance737> is there any info on the verizion usb727 evdo device and ubuntu
[19:10] <eternalist> Can someone help me troubleshoot my sound, i went through the guide but it didn't help
[19:10] <taz> After update I can connect with Pidgin, but no web access
[19:10] <hypn0> bluefoxx: apparently it's an AGP 2x - SiS 300
[19:10] <gverig> Ahhh... Scribes can open non-local URLs from Nautilus. Not sure if anybody is interested but still. Thanks!
[19:11] <Alex2> taz: Mhm, DNS?
[19:12] <taz> mhm?
[19:12] <neverblue> taz, well, pidgin would mean 'web' access
[19:12] <hypn0> bluefoxx: an SiS630ET
[19:12] <bluefoxx> hypn0: ok, tyvm =D
[19:12] <neverblue> taz having a problem with FF ?
[19:12] <bluefoxx> hypn0: ok, thanks ^^
[19:13] <Alex2> taz: I see you can connect to the IRC, so the DNS... Maybe browser, as neverblue said...
[19:13] <taz> neverblue: yes any web browser will not connect.. even by IP.. I tried the IP of my wireless router and I can't even connect to it.. can't even ping it
[19:13] <saik1> Is there a way to make the Live CD start with no X?
[19:13] <neverblue> taz sudo aptitude install konqueror
[19:14] <ikonia> saik1: edit the boot line
[19:14] <ikonia> saik1: but that will be pointless
[19:14] <eternalist> i can't get the sound to work
[19:14] <eternalist> i dont get it it was just working
[19:14] <ikonia> saik1: there are other CD's more appropriate for text use
[19:14] <eternalist> i know it's not muted
[19:14] <Alex2> saik1: press ESC while booting
[19:14] <Alex2> :D
[19:14] <bluefoxx> err...how many kilobytes in 64 mb?[i forget the conversion XD]
[19:14] <ikonia> bluefoxx: http://www.t1shopper.com/tools/calculate/
[19:14] <ZimmerX> how do I install beryl on Gutsy?
[19:14] <Alex2> bluefoxx: MiB or SI MB :D
[19:15] <taz> neverblue: konqueror doesn't work.. evolution doesn't work.. seems only pidgin will connect
[19:15] <ikonia> ZimmerX: you don't - beryl is dead
[19:15] <XBehave> does bcmfwcutter come by default?
[19:15] <Alex2> ZimmerX: You cant. Install Compiz-fusion
[19:15] <ikonia> ZimmerX: it's been replaced by compiz-fusion which is already in gutsy
[19:15] <neverblue> taz, can you ping google.ca ?
[19:15] <saik1> ikonia, how do i get it to boot into singlue user mode?
[19:15] <ZimmerX> ikonia: how do I enable effects and shizzle?
[19:15] <bluefoxx> Alex2: megabytes
[19:15] <VotePedro> XBehave: yes, you just use Restricted Drivers while plugged into wired connection, and it hsould work
[19:15] <ikonia> saik1: add th eline "single" to the boot line
[19:15] <ikonia> ZimmerX: it's more developed than beryl so yes
[19:15] <neverblue> ZimmerX, enable the restricted driver, with the restricted driver manager, first
[19:15] <eternalist> No one can help me with the sound?
[19:15] <taz> neverblue: can't ping anything.. can't install anything because it can't reach repositories
[19:16] <eternalist> the guide didn't help
[19:16] <ZimmerX> neverblue: already have with Envy
[19:16] <ikonia> ZimmerX: don't use envy
[19:16] <Alex2> bluefox: Yeah, but the "SI" is 1000000, and MiB is other... 1024*1024
[19:16] <neverblue> !envy | ZimmerX
[19:16] <ubotu> ZimmerX: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:16] <ikonia> ZimmerX: envy is a bad call
[19:16] <ZimmerX> ikonia: why?
[19:16] <neverblue> he will find out soon enough
[19:16] <holycow> hey guys.  how do i get the network manager to request a new password after it has stored it in a keyrign?
[19:16] <ikonia> ZimmerX: read the comment from ubotu
[19:17] <neverblue> 'not needed' specifically
[19:17] <saik1> ikonia, thanks
[19:17] <b4l74z4r> how will ubuntu default partition a 500gb hd, how large will each partition be?
[19:17] <holycow> it remembers the last password in the keyring but doesn't prompt for a new pass when pass on router is changed
[19:17] <ZimmerX> ikonia: how do I un-install then?
[19:17] <ikonia> ZimmerX: too late - you can't, damage done
[19:17] <neverblue> taz, maybe your under the impression that Pidgin is working, as for a solution to your issue, I think you need to narrow the problem down more
[19:17] <ZimmerX> ikonia: there must be a way....
[19:17] <mamep> pike ?
[19:17] <ikonia> ZimmerX: no, damage is done
[19:17] <ZimmerX> ikonia: so what now? I can't do anything?
[19:18] <XBehave> VotePedro: thx
[19:18] <VotePedro> no prob
[19:18] <ikonia> ZimmerX: to get a known state system again, you'd need a re-install
[19:18] <neverblue> ZimmerX, if the drivers there, then you need to enable desktop effects
[19:18] <ihmSelbst> kann man mit ubuntu 7.10 keinen 3d-cube mehr anzeigen lassen? hab da die ganzen beryl/compiz effekte, aber keinen cube !?
[19:18] <BoostedSS> ok, I just plugged in an external monitor to my laptop and now I rebooted and it wont startx anymore :(  how to I reset it?
[19:18] <ZimmerX> neverblue: desktop effects works
[19:18] <taz> neverblue: lol how?  I have narrowed it down to pretty much all internet services not working except for some odd reason pidgin works???  I am able to chat as well.. yahoo msn etc wth
[19:18] <Pici> !de | ihmSelbst
[19:18] <ikonia> !de | ihmSelbst
[19:18] <ubotu> ihmSelbst: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:18] <jholtz> algum brasileiro?
[19:18] <neverblue> ZimmerX, then what are you trying to accomplish ?
[19:19] <NoEdible> a
[19:19] <Pici> !br | jholtz
[19:19] <deadlyallance737> is there any info on the verizion usb727 evdo device and ubuntu
[19:19] <ubotu> jholtz: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:19] <xtremist> русские есть?
[19:19] <b4l74z4r> desktop effects are broken in 7.10, at least if you have a nvidia card
[19:19] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: no they arn't
[19:19] <ZimmerX> neverblue: is there not more effects than just the effects on the windows ( gellatine effect )
[19:19] <neverblue> taz, like I said, narrow it down more, I cannot help further, good luck
[19:19] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: they are not working for you
[19:19] <VotePedro> you just need the drier
[19:19] <pteague> how do i figure out which usb port my joystick is plugged into?
[19:19] <neverblue> ZimmerX, now is when you head to the compiz channel
[19:19] <neverblue> !compiz
[19:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:19] <b4l74z4r> ikonia: if they don't work for me, then they are broken
[19:19] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: no - they are not
[19:19] <kasra> pteague: lsusb
[19:20] <b4l74z4r> ikonia: why don't they work for me then?
[19:20] <b4l74z4r> i don't have "exotic" hardware
[19:20] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: not installed/configured correctly, wrong drivers ? could be many reasons
[19:20] <jholtz> sou novo no linux, pode ajudar ? como utilizo o #ubuntu-br?
[19:20] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: you don't need exotic hardware to be miss-configued
[19:20] <neverblue> jholtz, English please
[19:21] <Pirate_Hunter> hello good morning/ good afternoon & good morning :D, now can someone tell a software that can allow me to change AVI files to DVD format just like Nero can
[19:21] <sedra> nerolinux
[19:21] <neverblue> Pirate-King, tovid
[19:21] <BoostedSS> ok, I just plugged in an external monitor to my laptop and now I rebooted and it wont startx anymore :(  how to I reset it?
[19:21] <neverblue> sorry, Pirate_Hunter *
[19:21] <taz> well, I can't even seem to REINSTALL ubuntu because when I try to boot the cd, because right after I start the cd and select boot/install, it starts to load and blanks the screen... so I can't even see to reinstall..
[19:21] <mamep> anyone can help me with path problem?
[19:21] <pteague> kasra> thanks... hmm...  how do i figure out which of those relates to the usb[1-8] entries in /dev/ ? or should i be looking at the usbdevx.x_epxx entries?
[19:21] <Pirate_Hunter> sedra: I thought that was only for burning files
[19:21] <b4l74z4r> ikonia: but shouldn't compiz be able to configure itself correctly on regular hardware?
[19:21] <neverblue> taz, do you have 'two' heads on your video card ?
[19:22] <danand_> Pirate_Hunter - dvdrip
[19:22] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: will look into it I hope its user friendly and does the job well
[19:22] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, tovid, read the man, they even have their own channel :D
[19:22] <taz> yes, both are connected, neither is producing a signal.. the one on the motherboard is not either
[19:22] <Pirate_Hunter> danand_: isnt that for windows only "(-_-)??
[19:22] <taz> is there any way to revert to the way the system was before an update?
[19:22] <b4l74z4r> compiz should never have been inclded in ubuntu, it's still experimental
[19:22] <neverblue> taz, then use the LiveCD instead, or the ALT., which ever one you dont have...
[19:23] <bluefoxx> back[friggen power failure, while updating T_T]
[19:23] <PriceChild> !offtopic | b4l74z4r
[19:23] <ubotu> b4l74z4r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:23] <bluefoxx> so what was i aksing?
[19:23] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: ok than will check it out
[19:23] <taz> I have tried 2 different cds, both do the same thing.. both worked fine before
[19:23] <wil_> Hi.... I have tried to upgrade from 5.10 to the latest, but got problems... I just burnt a cd from a .iso and it boots in to the menu, but any option brings up a error and it reboots :( anyone got any ideas?
[19:24] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, 'tovid -wide -ntsc -in this.avi -out that'
[19:24] <PriceChild> wil_, you must not skip versions when upgrading
[19:24] <danand_> Pirate-Hunter - Didn't know it was on windows - its just in the Applications -> Sound & Video menu of Ubuntu!
[19:24] <PriceChild> wil_, 5.10 > 6.06 > 6.10 etc.
[19:24] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, something along those lines, pretty easy
[19:24] <VotePedro> wil: reburn at a lower speed, possibly?
[19:24] <VotePedro> sounds like the cd isnt a good one
[19:24] <PriceChild> wil_, you may be able to go from 6.06 straight to 8.04 in april... but that's not done yet.
[19:24] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: hmm shell based no gui hmm....
[19:25] <wil_> it boots in to a menu with the ubuntu logo at the top, but then any option brings up a error
[19:25] <VotePedro> the cd integrity check even?
[19:25] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, i think there maybe a front end for it, but really, it runs faster when not displaying the video....
[19:25] <Codenut> I just tried to upgrade from fiesty to gutsy and it told me I have not enabled ¨universe¨ to get 3rd party files. How do I enable them.
[19:25] <wil_> is there anyway I can update online? it just says my version is to old? I just want to get wine + latest version to do some testing... if it works with our erp app, we can switch the office to ubuntu, but I only have a old cd
[19:25] <wil_> and for some reason, whenever I burn, I get a error
[19:26] <VotePedro> Codenut: in the menu, under System -> Administration (I think), software sources. Add it there
[19:26] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: I guess so but that only works if you know the commands and if it detects the film ratio etc automatically
[19:26] <BoostedSS> ok, I just plugged in an external monitor to my laptop and now I rebooted and it wont startx anymore :(  how to I reset it?
[19:26] <wil_> but, the cd seems to work fine in explorer,  (of the file broswesr... not sure on linux terms!) I just can not see anything wrong
[19:26] <VotePedro> wil: what did you use to burn it>
[19:26] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, i would suggest a good read of the man and the #tovid channel, they are really helpful (when around)
[19:26] <hansderelict> how do i change the settings in the file trip_points using the 'echo' command? here is what i would like to change: critical (S5):           85 C, next line: passive:                 80 C: tc1=2 tc2=3 tsp=100 devices=CPU0 CPU1. thanks for any help.
[19:27] <Codenut> Could it be unsupport updates, also called fiesty backports?
[19:27] <danand_> Codenut - either manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list or open synaptics and go to settings -> repositories
[19:28] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: kk thanx will do so :D
[19:28] <neverblue> np
[19:28] <kasra> pteague: maybe /dev/js* or /dev/input/js*
[19:28] <wil_> is there anyway I can update 5.10 to the latest without cd... just commands / online update?
[19:28] <danand_> Codenut - synaptics is probably easier way
[19:29] <DRebellion> wil_: you can use, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (but i wouldn't recommend it)
[19:29] <b4l74z4r> how will ubuntu default partition a 500gb hd, how large will each partition be?
[19:29] <extern> I noticed 3 strange connections in firestarter to my computer from the same ip to ports 53217, 53209 and 53210. How can I know what are they doing and how can I terminate them?
[19:29] <dangb> I already have openSUSE installed, how can I install ubuntu without messing up my existing grub setup?
[19:29] <VotePedro> b4l74z4r: Ubuntu will use all of it for /, except for the swap
[19:30] <BoostedSS> what is the command line utility to configure the graphics?
[19:30] <b4l74z4r> ok
[19:30] <Codenut> Thanks gang. I am heading for the edge of the cliff now.
[19:30] <DRebellion> gverig: its easy to mount:   mount -t cifs //server/share/path /mountpoint
[19:30] <kasra> BoostedSS: maybe you should change xorg.conf like before
[19:30] <DRebellion> extern: netstat -p
[19:31] <wil_> DRebellion,  I will try.... this is not a production pc, I just want to get the latest version on... one way or another so I can just train myself and learn a few things
[19:31] <kasra> BoostedSS: take a look at it , /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:31] <wil_> at the moment, I can do basic things in linux and support it where needed.... but if something screws up, I am buggered! I dont know it inside out or anything
[19:31] <DRebellion> wil_: then do a clean install with the cd
[19:31] <extern> DRebellion, the connection for some reason is not listed in there, but it is shown as active in firestarter
[19:32] <DRebellion> extern: are they doing anything? take a look at output from   tcpdump
[19:32] <wil_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[19:32] <wil_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[19:32] <DRebellion> wil_: sudo apt-get update
[19:33] <wil_> I want to do a clean install, but every time I try to burn, no matter what speed, I get errors :(
[19:33] <wil_> tried on multi pcs
[19:33] <DRebellion> !shipit | wil_
[19:33] <ubotu> wil_: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[19:34] <wil_> got another error when running that :(
[19:34] <wil_> thanks, il take a look at ship it
[19:34] <ouellettesr> can someone help me with this, not sure what went wrong http://pastebin.com/m70af9c74
[19:34] <darkblue_B> Hello- Just geting a new package running on 7.10/amd64.. it seems that /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders has a bunch of .so files, but *not* the svg loader I need.. ???
[19:35] <d33d> Last week, I left my 2 XP CDs on my dashboard in plain view. Someone broke into my car and left 2 more.
[19:35] <DRebellion> !offtopic | d33d
[19:35] <ubotu> d33d: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:35] <danand_> ouellettesr - you need to tar -xvgf .... the tar file has been compressed with gzip
[19:35] <d33d> !offtopic | DRebellion
[19:35] <zen_> Witam
[19:35] <ubotu> DRebellion: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:36] <extern> DRebellion, I don't see that ip doing something in tcpdump. I searched for the ports I listed on google, and it seems that they are used by some kind of trojans
[19:36] <DRebellion> ouellettesr: you need to run it as   tar xzvf
[19:36] <ouellettesr> danand_, thanks
[19:36] <edju> Running the stock 2.6.22-14-generic kernel.  I want to dwnload the source.  Should I get "linux-source" or "linux-source-2.6.22"?
[19:36] <[-Delta-]> I dont know how to really explain this problem i'm encountering but ill try: Basically the windows and taskbars are not using the screens full reach. like it thinks i'ts a 1024x768 but its not...
[19:36] <puff> So, I upgraded my thinkpad t43p to gutsy.
[19:36] <danand_> ouellettesr - note the extra "g" - you should use bzip though - that gives better compression - to use that replace g with j
[19:36] <puff> And, I was kinda hesitant to do so, becauses when I upgraded to feisty, hibernate broke.
[19:37] <puff> So guess what?  Suspend and hibernate are broken on gutsy.
[19:37] <cyber_dude> how can I list all files on my Ubuntu server by their size desc?
[19:37] <danand_> ouellettesr - name files file.tar.bz2
[19:37] <DRebellion> cyber_dude: du -a (you may want -h aswell for human readable) /
[19:37] <[-Delta-]> How do I fix it?
[19:37] <HollyDancer> русскоговорящие есть?
[19:37] <Pici> !ru | HollyDancer
[19:37] <ubotu> HollyDancer: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:37] <DRebellion> edju: you want linux-source
[19:37] <ouellettesr> danand_, ca i also use -p when extracting or is that only when creating archive
[19:38] <[-Delta-]> Okay then :P
[19:38] <[-Delta-]> :|
[19:39] <[-Delta-]> Moo?
[19:39] <danand_> ouellettesr - the p just means to preserve permissions - I prefer this
[19:39] <stumped> index of /
[19:39] <extern> so is there a way to terminate those connections?
[19:39] <danand_> ouellettesr - that should read "preserve the origional permissions"
[19:40] <stumped> I don't know anything about shipit
[19:40] <danand_> ouellettesr - that should read "preserve the *original permissions" :)
[19:40] <blaker> this is going to sound stupid. i have tried everything, i put my windows fonts in /usr/share/fonts, i still can't get firefox on ubuntu to load pages as they were meant to be seen. what is wrong?
[19:40] <stumped> shipit
[19:40] <ouellettesr> danand_, will i have to use it when extracting though, being i created the archve with the -p option
[19:40] <kazil> hey all! does anyone knows is D-Link DWL-922 E Wireless Kit supported in ubuntu 7.10? or where do i check it?
[19:40] <stumped> pastebin - collaborative debugging tool
[19:40] <stumped> I don't know anything about offtopic
[19:40] <stumped> I don't know anything about offtopic
[19:40] <stumped> I don't know anything about ru
[19:41] <blaker> any ideas?
[19:41] <DRebellion> !hcl | kazil
[19:41] <ubotu> kazil: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[19:41] <stumped> I don't know anything about hcl
[19:41] <gub> !sound
[19:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:41] <stumped> I don't know anything about sound
[19:41] <DRebellion> !ops | stumped
[19:41] <ubotu> stumped: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[19:41] <ouellettesr> blaker, you trying to get windows fonts in firefox?
[19:41] <kazil> thank u DRebellion
[19:41] <stumped> main page - alsa wiki
[19:41] <stumped> I don't know anything about ops
[19:41] <blaker> no, usr/shared/fonts
[19:42] <danand_> ouellettesr - only if you wish to preserve permissions - otherwise I think some files permissions can get a bit messed up - ie executables etc
[19:42] <blaker> it doesn't matter, OOo is recognizing the fonts, they're installed. but firefox still looks like shit when it loads pages
[19:42] <DRebellion> !language | blaker
[19:42] <ubotu> blaker: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:42] <blaker> like google is using the wrong fonts
[19:42] <ouellettesr> blaker i put all my custom fonts in /home/usr/.fonts/
[19:42] <ouellettesr> oh i see
[19:42] <regeya> !msttcorefonts
[19:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <danand_> ouellettesr - not too much of a worry though - the p option is just a nicety really
[19:43] <regeya> darnnation
[19:43] <blaker> i'm wondering if the fonts are not the only problem
[19:43] <DRebellion> blaker: yeah, i agree. i'm pretty sure they're supposed to be in .fonts
[19:43] <b4l74z4r> i installed ubuntu as an experiment with default partitioning and all my folders under / have 970mb free space, but my home folder (also under /) have only 227mb free space, how can that be?
[19:43] <blaker> could anything else contribute to these pages not loading as they should?
[19:43] <blaker> it's almost like all the fonts are too small
[19:43] <regeya> dumb question, blaker, but have you restarted firefox since installing the correct fonts
[19:43] <regeya> oh...heh.
[19:43] <blaker> i did
[19:43] <regeya> !dpi
[19:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <juharrr> hello, can someone help me up with a wine how-to??
[19:43] <regeya> dang!
[19:43] <A|iena> italiani??
[19:43] <blaker> i have restarted my computer since
[19:43] <ouellettesr> danand_, this is what im trying to do, and it just hangs there  tar -xpvgf grbackup.tar.gz
[19:43] <DRebellion> !it | A|iena
[19:43] <darkblue_B> Hello- Just geting a new package running on 7.10/amd64.. it seems that /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders has a bunch of .so files, but *not* the svg loader I need.. ???
[19:43] <ubotu> A|iena: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:44] <jussi01> !wine | juharrr
[19:44] <ubotu> juharrr: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[19:44] <darkblue_B> I found another svg loader, but wth an unexpectd name.. I have to soft lnk?
[19:44] <b4l74z4r> blaker, i've been trying to get fonts to look "right" in ubuntu for ages, i use opera instead
[19:44] <juharrr> yes, i found a how-to, but i cant follow it
[19:44] <regeya> I seem to recall that there's a doc on the wiki about setting dpi and whatnot, blaker, and if you're running firefox under gnome, it'll likely just default to 96dpi
[19:45] <blaker> so i'm not the only one
[19:45] <danand_> ouellettesr - How big is the archive you are trying to extract - ie whats the file size?
[19:45] <b4l74z4r> i mean firefox of course
[19:45] <blaker> it really bothers me when i'm on google or something. it just doesn't look right
[19:45] <juharrr> jussi01, can you help me pls?
[19:45] <juharrr> its about 5 minutes of time
[19:45] <b4l74z4r> blaker, i've been trying to get fonts to look "right" in firefox for ages, i use opera instead
[19:45] <ouellettesr> danand_, 8.2mb
[19:45] <blaker> eh
[19:45] <blaker> i suppose i can give opera a shot
[19:45] <blaker> but i love firefox
[19:45] <darkblue_B> ln --symbolic targ src ??
[19:45] <b4l74z4r> opera has session saver
[19:45] <ouellettesr> danand_, im ssh into my webserver and trying to ectract it there
[19:46] <b4l74z4r> i love that feature
[19:46] <jussi01> juharrr: what are you trying to install?
[19:46] <blaker> wtf, opera is not in ubuntu packages
[19:46] <blaker> forget it
[19:46] <pike_> blaker: opera is nice but you will come accross websites that give you trouble sometimes.
[19:46] <Pici> !opera
[19:46] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[19:46] <PriceChild> !wtf | blaker
[19:46] <darkblue_B> ln --symbolic newFile src ??
[19:46] <ubotu> blaker: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:47] <Tree10> I am trying to enable my nvidia 8400gs driver and getting error: Softwawre source package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[19:48] <juharrr> jussi01, i queried you, i hope you noticed :)
[19:48] <MaxRide> I have a quick question, I'm trying to install the GUI onto 7.10 Server. Can anyone hook me up with the command to pull it from the net?
[19:48] <regeya> I dunno.  I'm not having problems, but well, there's a gazillion different pieces of advice if you google for it.  http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/howto-beat-firefoxs-ui-fonts-into-submission/
[19:48] <DRebellion> MaxRide: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:48] <VotePedro> MaxRide: or kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop :p
[19:48] <jussi01> juharrr: nope, no queries here
[19:48] <cyber_dude> I had a 32GB message file which filled up my HD 100%..... I just deleted the file but doing a df still shows a full HD, while doing a du -c shows only 2.8 GBs... anyone know whats going oin?
[19:48] <b4l74z4r> i installed ubuntu as an experiment with default partitioning and all my folders under / have 970mb free space, but my home folder (also under /) have only 227mb free space, how can that be?
[19:48] <blaker> why would opera look any better?
[19:48] <blaker> i doubt it
[19:49] <danand_> ouellettesr - wierd - try creating the archive again but without the g flag. ie tar -cpvf file.tar files.... Sometimes different machines may have different versions of gzip installed and this can cause problems
[19:49] <MaxRide> Pedro, Rebellion: Thanks. Can it pull it off the CD with that same command?
[19:49] <darkblue_B> ohhh.. the svg loader is in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0.. but *not* in my /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0
[19:49] <juharrr> jussi01, im trying following how-to: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6307
[19:49] <DRebellion> MaxRide: its not on the server cd
[19:49] <Breakage> is opera qt based to gtk??
[19:49] <blaker> sounds like an opera fanboy trying to get me to switch, i dont see why fonts would look any better in opera
[19:49] <VotePedro> MaxRideL probably not
[19:49] <b4l74z4r> blaker: i don't know why, i just know that it does
[19:49] <darkblue_B> so a link would be 'unlucky' :-)
[19:49] <Breakage> or*
[19:49] <ouellettesr> danand_, thanks ill gove it a go
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: did you delete it as root.. if so it is in a different .Trash
[19:49] <blaker> looks EXACTLY the same
[19:49] <blaker> fonts are too small on google
[19:49] <juharrr> jussi01, i downloadet wine src, extracted, and tried the other things, but failed
[19:49] <DRebellion> blaker: it uses a different html rendering engine.
[19:49] <MaxRide> Pedro, Rebbelion: Thanks guys!  =/  UPS guys here so I'm AFK
[19:49] <darkblue_B> I stll need the svg loader for lib32 gtk-2.0
[19:49] <blaker> and digg and other known websites dont look right
[19:50] <darth_nader> hello anyone know of a ppp client that does multi link ppp with 2 dialup modems
[19:50] <damien_> anyone know how to get oidentd working behind a router?
[19:50] <jussi01> juharrr: wine is in the repositories
[19:50] <DRebellion> damien_: forward the port to the router??
[19:50] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: I did delete it as root.. how to I find/delete it from the .Trash?
[19:50] <damien_> doesn't work
[19:50] <VotePedro> juharr: you can also add the wine repos to get the latest version
[19:50] <juharrr> jussi01, i even dont know what the "repositories" are
[19:50] <b4l74z4r> why would i get anyone to use opera, unless it was because i think the fonts looke better?
[19:50] <damien_> there appears to be a complication in being behind a router
[19:50] <darkblue_B> svg_loader.so for lib32, Ubuntu amd64.. any leads??
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: Look for another .Trash under /root
[19:51] <blaker> same reason people try and switch others over to mac
[19:51] <b4l74z4r> how would recommending opera benefit me?
[19:51] <darkblue_B> svg_loader.so for lib32/gtk-2.0, Ubuntu amd64.. any leads??
[19:51] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: people like different things
[19:51] <jussi01> !repositories | juharrr
[19:51] <ubotu> juharrr: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[19:51] <VotePedro> juharr: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[19:51] <blaker> "i'm having a problem doing ______ on windows. can you help?" "get a mac, that worked for me"
[19:51] <blaker> it's stupid
[19:51] <ikonia> blaker: where have you seen that ?
[19:51] <Tree10> I am trying to enable my nvidia 8400gs driver and getting error: Softwawre source package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[19:51] <DRebellion> !offtopic | blaker b4l74z4r
[19:51] <ubotu> blaker b4l74z4r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:52] <jussi01> juharrr: go to synaptic, search for wine, install
[19:52] <blaker> !language | DRebellion
[19:52] <ubotu> DRebellion: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:52] <juharrr> jussi01, you dont got my problem
[19:52] <pike_> blaker: there are quite a few of us in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[19:52] <ikonia> blaker: he's not using bad language
[19:52] <m1r> hello
[19:52] <ikonia> blaker: don't abuse the bot
[19:52] <VotePedro> hello
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> b4l74z4r: By increasing the number of people using the same product as yourself, you increase support and the probability that it will stay around.  Example.. netscape
[19:52] <juharrr> jussi01, im trying to make this mouse-cursor hack http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6307
[19:53] <m1r> i have pheno 9500 and 4gb ram, ubuntu detecting only 3 gb ram, i am using 7.10 32 bit, whats wrong ?
[19:53] <DRebellion> blaker: This is an ubuntu support channel. If you wish to discuss _anything_ else, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> juharrr: You might try asking in #winehq
[19:53] <b4l74z4r> Jack_Sparrow: ok i suppose so, but that wasn't really my intention, i really don't think that "globally"
[19:53] <juharrr> in this network?
[19:53] <lord_boromir> use 64bit version
[19:53] <m1r> how is support for packages in 64 bit ?
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> juharrr: Yes  /j #winehq
[19:53] <ikonia> m1r: fine
[19:53] <ikonia> m1r: depends what you want
[19:53] <juharrr> ty
[19:54] <DRebellion> m1r: there is a 3.2 gb ram limit for 32bit processors.
[19:54] <m1r> ok tnx DRebellion
[19:54] <m1r> ikonia: flash
[19:54] <weltschmerz> i don't see pulseaudio in my sound preferences.  anyone know exactly what packages i need to install to get it?
[19:54] <ikonia> m1r: not progresed much
[19:54] <darkblue_B> m1r: I asked abou tt hs on a newsgroup.. after a long thread, the concesus was that there is no reason to stick with the 32bit distro anymore
[19:54] <darkblue_B> .. for hardware that supports 64
[19:55] <xurax> hi
[19:55] <ikonia> darkblue_B: thats nonsense.
[19:55] <danand_> Tree10 - have you enabled the driver? - See System -> Admin -> Restricted driver management
[19:55] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: I can't find any trash files..
[19:55] <ronny1> so i guess we should start using x86_64 from now
[19:55] <darkblue_B> ikonia: informed people had diferent opinions, but that was the majority response.. so its not nonsnese
[19:56] <xurax> how musst i write gaps of a path in a shell script?
[19:56] <ronny1> so i guess we should start using x86_64 Ubuntu from now
[19:56] <ikonia> darkblue_B: it is nonsense
[19:56] <Tree10> danand did that and got that error message
[19:56] <darkblue_B> ikonia: informed people had diferent opinions, but that was the majority response.. so its not nonsnese
[19:56] <darkblue_B> svg_loader.so for lib32/gtk-2.0, Ubuntu amd64.. any leads??
[19:56] <ikonia> darkblue_B: the principal is sound, but the practicality not
[19:56] <DRebellion> xurax: \
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: under /root/.Trash   You dont see anything with hidden files enabled
[19:56] <DRebellion> xurax: path/to/file\ with\ gap
[19:56] <cousin_luigi> hi
[19:56] <danand_> Tree10 - have you restarted after enabling??
[19:57] <m1r> i puted 7.10 32 bit live cd and now it showing 366123 ram
[19:57] <Schiz0> I'm using Ubuntu server 7.10, and I'm trying to optimize apache22. The apache performance Tuning manual says this: "On some operating systems, mmap does not scale as well as read(2) when the number of CPUs increases."  Is this true for Ubuntu 7.10?
[19:57] <xurax> ah ok
[19:57] <ikonia> m1r: thats the limit of the stock 32bit setup
[19:57] <cousin_luigi> I've moved root to another partition and it worked
[19:57] <Tree10> dinand - it wont enable that is the problem
[19:57] <blaker> racist!
[19:57] <m1r> ok tnx ikonia
[19:57] <sunseeker888> hi guys, does ubuntu has a video software to use with webcam to make little clips
[19:57] <PriceChild> blaker, who?
[19:57] <ikonia> Schiz0: should be ok because of ntpl support
[19:57] <cousin_luigi> after today's kernel update, menu.lst has been updated with pointers to the old partition
[19:57] <darth_nader> hello anyone know of a ppp client that does multi link ppp with 2 dialup modems
[19:57] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: under /root there is no /.Trash even with hidden files enabled
[19:58] <cousin_luigi> where do I set that?
[19:58] <ikonia> PriceChild: blaker is pointing random bot factoids at people
[19:58] <DRebellion> sunseeker888: yes. you can use any video encoder really.
[19:58] <pike_> sunseeker888: you can just use vlc for this or there are dedicated webcam apps
[19:58] <blaker> factoids?
[19:58] <Schiz0> ikonia: ok, so mmap() is more efficient to use than read() on a multiprocesser 64-bit server?
[19:58] <danand_> Tree10 - oh :(
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Would someone verify I got that right.. there should be /root/.Trash folder
[19:58] <ikonia> Schiz0: in most senarios I believe so
[19:58] <Schiz0> ikonia: Thanks
[19:58] <pike_> Jack_Sparrow: maybe not if you never logged in as root
[19:59] <ikonia> Schiz0: thats not fact, just my opinion
[19:59] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow,  there "shouldn't if you're not using root nautius
[19:59] <sunseeker888> Pike, I am new where do i search for a dedicated web apps? anyone included in ubuntu install
[19:59] <Schiz0> well I don't know any better, so I'll trust your opinion :-P
[19:59] <ikonia> Schiz0: apache runs on dual quad core xeons in enterprise environments for me with ubuntu - no issues
[19:59] <danand_> Tree10 - Do you mean it won't allow you to check the tickbox next to the listed driver?
[20:00] <sunseeker888> Drebbllion, where  do i get a video encoder?
[20:00] <[1]panfist> everytime i log in i get some dialog about my keyboard layout settings between different between X and GNOME, but according to any settings I can see they show up the same. it's preventing me from logging in remotely. why does X think i have a 101 key keyboard when xorg.conf says I have 105?
[20:00] <pike_> sunseeker888: probably best thread is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143732&highlight=RECORD+WEbcam
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: Silly me, I am using Thunar.. not as root.. and I do see /root/.Trash
[20:00] <sunseeker888> smashing pike, cheers
[20:00] <kadakas> Heeeelp! I installed some nfs packages to use nfs. Then Nautilus wouldn't start and i used Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart gdm. Gdm did not start and after rebooting gdm will not load. It will not show any errors, just the "loading" mouse cursor. Please help, i need this laptop at school tomorrow! :(
[20:00] <regeya> whee.
[20:00] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow, well some sort of graphical app as root
[20:00] <mediabuntu> can any one help i can get dhcp server3 to start
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: Look using  gksudo nautilus
[20:01] <ikonia> mediabuntu: what happens when you try to start it
[20:01] <mediabuntu> i get (failed)
[20:01] <DRebellion> kadakas: after you boot, press ctrl+alt+f2 . and uninstall the packages you installed. and DONT PANIC !
[20:01] <Tree10> danand - It lets me check it and when I select enable driver I get the error: The software source for the package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[20:01] <ikonia> mediabuntu: look in /var/log/messages
[20:01] <mediabuntu> ok , i have just rebooted btw i was lookin in /var/log/system
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: Since you just deleted it those files as root I assumed you were already in root.. my mistake
[20:02] <danand_> Tree10 - wait one..
[20:02] <ronny1> Jack_Sparrow:which Ubuntu cop would you recommend for someone wanting to install ubuntu as a desktop (Athlon 64 x2 5400). x86_64 or the i386 (32 bit)
[20:02] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: I was logged in as root?? i am not following u
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: You will find the missing trash in /.Trash  or /root/.Trash  using gksudo nautilus
[20:03] <mediabuntu> ikonia:dhcpd: Wrote 2 leases to leases file.
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ronny1: Ubuntu cop ?  what is that
[20:04] <mediabuntu> how when it hasnt started yet ?
[20:04] <ikonia> mediabuntu: looks like it's running then
[20:04] <mediabuntu> dhcpd3                                           [fail]
[20:04] <danand_> Tree10 - Have you enabled the use of repository for restricted drivers in synaptics -> Settings -> Repositories??
[20:04] <mediabuntu> i canr start it lol
[20:04] <ikonia> mediabuntu: it's already start
[20:04] <ikonia> started
[20:04] <ikonia> mediabuntu: thats why it's failing
[20:05] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: I'm using the server version of Ubuntu
[20:05] <mediabuntu> but it even fails to stop
[20:05] <ronny1> Jack_Sparrow:sorry . cop=copy
[20:05] <ikonia> mediabuntu: ps -ef | grep dhcp see if it's running
[20:05] <ikonia> mediabuntu: it may be failing to stop
[20:05] <mediabuntu> ikonia look Stopping DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail]
[20:05] <ronny1> Jack_Sparrow:should have said distro
[20:05] <sunseeker888> sudo apt-get install vlc-nox
[20:05] <ikonia> mediabuntu: that means it failed to stop
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> ronny1: I run 32bit on everythin here.. even the 64 bit boxes
[20:05] <mediabuntu> yes its running
[20:05] <sunseeker888> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[20:06] <ikonia> mediabuntu: ahh ok, so the stop is failing
[20:06] <JosiahW> Anybody know if the gvfs bug in Hardy Alpha 3 has a fix? The network:/// Nautilus display error. A fix that doesnt involve changing to smb:///
[20:06] <mediabuntu> ikonia i want ot run diskless system .
[20:06] <ronny1> Jack_Sparrow:is there a problem with the 64 bit version ?
[20:06] <ikonia> mediabuntu: possible, but not the best setup
[20:06] <sunseeker888> i am installed Vlc, and  i am getting segmentation fault (core dumped? what does that mean
[20:06] <tonynlisa> Anyone aware of a application for ubuntu for drawing a network topology map?
[20:06] <mediabuntu> i know but its sort of like a backup. my main hard disk has been failing for moths now :(
[20:07] <ikonia> mediabuntu: diskless systems are not hte way to deal with it
[20:07] <Tree10> danand - ok i did
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ronny1: I would not say there is a problem with it.  I just dont see much speed difference (at least when I tried it)
[20:07] <ronny1> ok
[20:07] <[1]panfist> how can i install the newest version of nautilus on gutsy?
[20:07] <mediabuntu> iknonia ok, im going to reboot see if i can get an ip.
[20:08] <ikonia> [1]panfist: ubuntu will tell you if updates are available
[20:08] <[1]panfist> ikonia i would like to experiment with the version that's going to be in hardy heron
[20:08] <ikonia> [1]panfist: thats not advisable
[20:08] <ikonia> [1]panfist: just wait for hardy to come out
[20:08] <danand_> Tree10 - and you still get the same problem when you try to enable the driver
[20:09] <Tree10> danand - yes
[20:09] <ValiDOM> I've got a problem with ipppd ... installed it and de-installed it (with dselect). But the default-route to the ipppd is still there after boot. I de-installed all 'ppp',  but the route still comes up. Does anybody know how to disable it on boot (route del... does it now)
[20:09] <[1]panfist> why would it be unadvisable? would it be any harder than running kde4 on kubuntu?
[20:09] <darkblue_B> I found a post that said to remove the reference to the svg loader from the gtk-2.0 gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32 setup file
[20:09] <danand_> Tree10 - Sorry - thats me stumped then!! :( Anyone else??
[20:09] <Flannel> [1]panfist: If you want to do that, the best advice is to try Hardy in its entirety.  Of course, its still alpha software.
[20:10] <darkblue_B> sofar, that cleared the error, though I have one more gotcha to move forward
[20:10] <[1]panfist> flannel oh well i guess i will just wait
[20:10] <darkblue_B> I made a dup backup of the orig file
[20:10] <Flannel> [1]panfist: you could always try it via LiveCD
[20:10] <Mba7eth2> hi guys .... how can i disable telnet in my box ?
[20:10] <darkblue_B> why no svg loader?  seems .. well, politics or something..
[20:11] <ValiDOM> Mba7eth2, apt-get remove telnetd
[20:11] <darkblue_B> svg loader is there for the current gtk-2.0
[20:11] <ikonia> Mba7eth2: telnet server is not running by default
[20:11] <Cyrus25801> what must i install to watch rmvb files
[20:11] <b4l74z4r> i installed ubuntu as an experiment with default partitioning and all my folders under / have 970mb free space, but my home folder (also under /) have only 227mb free space, how can that be?
[20:12] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: how big is the partitions
[20:12] <Mba7eth2> ikonia: i recently installed it :)
[20:12] <ikonia> Mba7eth2: so uninstall it
[20:12] <[1]panfist> flannel if it's so unstable that it's not advisable for me to install the newest version of nautilus by itself i doubt i really want it running anyway. what's so bad about it...would it just be difficult to setup or ?
[20:12] <CieD> Evening, can anyone tell me the password I need to unlock the network on a Hardy Live CD?
[20:12] <b4l74z4r> root is 10gb
[20:12] <Mba7eth2> ikonia: can i just disable it ?
[20:12] <ikonia> Mba7eth2: are you launching it through xinetd ?
[20:12] <MaxRide> Back again: I tried sudo apt-get install ubutnu-desktop, but the package isn't on the CD (I tried a desktop CD as well) and my ethernet adapter isn't enabled (but I did physically connect it to the LAN, finally). Anyone have any ideas?
[20:12] <DRebellion> Mba7eth2: it will be in  system -> administration -> services
[20:13] <b4l74z4r> ikonia:  i didn't partition manually
[20:13] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: stick the output of "df -h" into a pastebin
[20:13] <DRebellion> MaxRide: what do you mean by "isn't enabled"?
[20:13] <Flannel> [1]panfist: the new nautilus has dependencies of libraries that are newer than the ones in Gutsy.  So you'd have to backport those, and then hope they'll live side by side and play nice (which is unlikely)
[20:13] <ikonia> MaxRide: why are you installing ubuntu-desktop - it's already installed
[20:13] <DRebellion> ikonia: he is using server
[20:14] <ikonia> DRebellion: ughhh another one........
[20:14] <MaxRide> Rebel: It's not configured. In YAST I opted to config it later, but didn't realise I didn't know the ifconfig utility.
[20:14] <Flannel> MaxRide: you need the Alternate CD, not the Desktop CD to be able to install it from the CD (the desktop CD doesnt have a repository on it)
[20:14] <ikonia> MaxRide: yast ????
[20:14] <Mba7eth2> DRebellion : thanks
[20:14] <DRebellion> MaxRide: yast ???
[20:14] <MaxRide> Ikon:  Oh, sorry....I was installing Novell on it earlier, which didn't work.
[20:14] <sanozuke> does anyone know's how to boot a .ISO from a HD
[20:14] <ikonia> MaxRide: that doesn't explain yast
[20:14] <MaxRide> SUSE Linux w/ Novell services**
[20:14] <sanozuke> xubuntu .iso
[20:15] <panfist> flannel i see. thanks for the info
[20:15] <pike_> !install > sanozuke should help
[20:15] <ikonia> MaxRide: why are you not installing the desktop version
[20:15] <DRebellion> MaxRide: sudo ifup eth0
[20:15] <sanozuke> ok
[20:15] <sanozuke> i'll check pike
[20:15] <MaxRide> @Ikon: I want to test some PHP stuff, so I need a LAMP.    Rebel, Let my get that typed in.
[20:15] <ikonia> MaxRide: you can do that on the desktop server
[20:16] <ikonia> MaxRide: the desktop edition acts as a great server
[20:16] <Rezun> hi there
[20:16] <ikonia> MaxRide: with the bonus that the desktop is confgured and ready to go
[20:16] <DRebellion> MaxRide: if you're installing a gui anyway, just go for the desktop edition
[20:16] <blix_> Im looking for a free E-mail server
[20:16] <Rezun> i've got a problem with my harddisk in my notebook. It seems that the partition-table is broken. Parted allways gives me an error like "Can't have overlapping partitions". So i'm searching for a way to clean the partition table completely. Someone able to help?
[20:16] <DRebellion> !mta | blix_
[20:16] <ubotu> blix_: A Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is the server software that sends and queues mail. The default MTA (and !MDA) on Ubuntu is !postfix ("exim" is also officially supported). See also !MailServer and !MUA
[20:16] <MaxRide> Rebel: Says unknown interface     Ikon: How quickly can I get a LAMP server on the desktop edition?
[20:16] <ikonia> blix_: there are plenty postfix, exim, sendmail
[20:16] <darkblue_B> se where can I ask a 'up and running ' question about Java6 on Ubuntu 7.10 ?? basically the jar utility is there, but wont run from the command line
[20:16] <Flannel> MaxRide: Linux makes no distinctions between "server" and "desktop", the different CDs merely have different default packages.  You'll need the alternate CD to be able to install the desktop.  And even if you can't get internet working, you'll be able to use your current server CD as a repository to install the server stuff
[20:17] <ikonia> MaxRide: install apache2, mysql-server and php5
[20:17] <blix_> right ok..thanks folks
[20:17] <wil_> is there any way to test a cd to make sure it is the same as a iso? I have just waisted 3 cds trying to get the latest version of ubuntu working :( the .iso works fine under virtual machines, but they all fail after boot
[20:17] <Flannel> MaxRide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[20:17] <kadakas> DRebellion: didn't work :( It just keeps trying to load gdm. The last line ubuntu shows is: "Running local scripts" or something - after a while the screen just blanks
[20:17] <ubuntu_> co slychac?
[20:17] <blix_> more specifically..is there anything in the open source world like MS Outlook
[20:17] <wil_> I just want to test the latest version of ubuntu :(
[20:17] <kadakas> i cant understand how installing nfs-common can break my gdm
[20:18] <pike_> blix_: evolution is closest i believe
[20:18] <pike_> blix_: also umm lotus notes works in linux :)
[20:18] <ader10> I've successfully gotten Photoshop to work under wine. I would like to change the generic image  icon to the regular .psd icon. I have the image I need but I can't find out how to change it. Help please :)
[20:18] <blix_> evolution..ok, I do require the full works like Calender, tasks, inbox, etc..
[20:18] <blix_> pike..lol
[20:18] <MaxRide> All:    Excellent. I think I have a few things to try then.  I'll go ahead and get the Alterate CD from the site and burn it.  After that I'll try to get the GUI to install again.....Failing at that I'll just install desktop and then put apache on it.
[20:18] <pike_> blix_: i havent used evolution but i believe it has all the goodies
[20:19] <Webu> If i assing another IP-address to eth0, does Ubuntu remember that after a reboot?
[20:19] <Flannel> MaxRide: `sudo apt-cdrom add` is how you'll add the CD to your repositories (with the alternate in the drive)
[20:19] <blix_> pike_ ok...I'll take a look at that.
[20:19] <DRebellion> ader10: This is not an ubuntu issue. I suggest you take a look at appdb.winehq.org and/or ask in #wine.
[20:19] <blix_> time to get busy.
[20:19] <xidarian> no
[20:19] <ader10> DRebellion: It is an ubuntu issue. Photoshop is working fine. I just need to change the psd icons.
[20:20] <MaxRide> Flennel: Last stupid question from me for a while:  Desktop-alt or Server-alt cd?
[20:20] <Wiredtape> hey, I am trying to build an ircd but keep getting an error from the c compiler (this is the second ircd that has responded this way) - error is: no defined package in confdefs.h
[20:20] <DRebellion> ader10: Last time I checked, Photoshop was not native to linux, and therefore not native to ubuntu.
[20:20] <blix_> pike_ this looks perfect.
[20:20] <isleshocky77> Where is the best place to get help with LDAP. I have slapd and phpldapadmin setup and working.  And I can do an ldapsearch from a remote machine and pull the info from the ldap server. But none of the info is showing up in apple addressbook, outlook, or outlook express.
[20:20] <Flannel> MaxRide: there is no "server alt" CD, just the "Alternate", and thats the right one
[20:20] <ader10> DRebellion: Forget photoshop. I'm not concerned with that. I'm trying to change an icon for a mime type.
[20:20] <MaxRide> Flannel: Roger that. Thanks!  =)
[20:21] <ader10> DRebellion: Do you have any ideas on how to change the icon for a mime type?
[20:21] <Iradieh> Has anyone tried to getting ubuntu or other dist on a flashed x360?
[20:21] <BernardB> How can I auto rejoin on a kick or kickban (oper) in XChat?
[20:21] <Webu> If i assing another IP-address to eth0 (so it'll become eth0:1), does Ubuntu remember that after a reboot?
[20:21] <Corty> Iradieh, That would be sweet :)
[20:22] <Iradieh> Corty you got a flashed x360?
[20:22] <Corty> Iradieh, Noo, i said it would be
[20:22] <pike_> isleshocky77: im impressed youve gotten that far :) update wiki if you have a chance when you get it working
[20:22] <DRebellion> ader10: replace the existing icon file.
[20:22] <Corty> Iradieh, Ah, no, just thinking
[20:22] <Corty> Iradieh, you do?
[20:22] <ader10> DRebellion: I don't have a svg though and that's what the system is using.
[20:22] <PriceChild> BernardB, I wouldn't if I were you...
[20:22] <DRebellion> BernardB: I do not recommend auto-rejoin. If you are kicked, and rejoin straight away, the op will simply ban you.
[20:23] <isleshocky77> pike_: Thanks. hahah
[20:23] <isleshocky77> pike_: Yeah. the manuals don't really help that much. I had a lot of going back and forth between root user setup in config in phpldapadmin to finally being able to login to it using a user.
[20:24] <freakyy> hi all. what is the standard device for a touchpad?
[20:24] <ader10> DRebellion: You don't know how?
[20:25] <tts> hey i get it wrking i git the ip adress
[20:26] <eek> hello
[20:26] <BernardB> DRebellion, PriceChild, I'm oper at that server, so when I'm kicked and I rejoin, banning is not an obstruction as well. Is it possible, that I only rejoin on one specific server (the server, that's practically mine)?
[20:26] <PriceChild> BernardB, i'm sure its possible to edit a script to only act on a certain network.
[20:27] <LjL> BernardB: tried #xchat?
[20:27] <BernardB> PriceChild, I'm not that good in scripting. In fact, I've no clue.
[20:27] <LJHarb> how easy/smooth is a dist-upgrade, and how long will the machine be down for>?
[20:27] <eek> i need some help proof reading my /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:27] <BernardB> LjL, will try it
[20:27] <darkblue_B> dir /etc/alternatives has an alias to a bunch of Java stuff, built on the fresh install of Java6. The alias to the jar utility has the wrong path, with a verion number added to one of the path elements, it would be rigth.. I dont wnat to begin to muck with this though.. Where can I ask about this setup?
[20:28] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: easy . yes, smooth, yes, a little time consuming but depends on bandwidth
[20:28] <ader10> DRebellion: It was not nice of you to volunteer to help me and then ignore me after not reading my question.
[20:28] <ikonia> ader10: it's a busy channel, don't take anything personally
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: A word of caution though if you have ever used automatix or to a lesser extent envy scripts to install things
[20:29] <LJHarb> Jack_Sparrow: from dapper, should i go up one distro at a time or can i jump to a newer one?
[20:29] <LJHarb> ive never done that
[20:29] <Guildenstern> hi.. i haven't found my problems in forums/wiki. I guess it is too trivial. Do I need compiz (or another composite thing) to run cairo-dock? Actually it is running without but I have a ugly black window around the dock when an animation is in effect.
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: One at a time
[20:29] <LJHarb> i was planning on using some sort of apt command
[20:29] <Webu> Anyone about ifconfig settings? Are they reset after a reboot? What should i edit to make them permanent (i need to assign an another IP-address to eth0)?
[20:29] <LJHarb> Jack_Sparrow: whats the command to bump to edgy?
[20:29] <LjL> !upgrade > LJHarb    (LJHarb, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:30] <ikonia> Webu: use the network admin gui
[20:30] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: one sec
[20:30] <ikonia> Webu: that will make them perm
[20:30] <LJHarb> ah thanks LjL
[20:30] <Webu> ikonia, ouch i don't have any GUI :/
[20:30] <ikonia> Webu: why ?
[20:30] <danand_> Webu - you need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces file
[20:30] <Webu> Well.. It's a server :)
[20:30] <Webu> danand_, okey i'll try that, thanks!
[20:30] <ikonia> Webu: you can use a desktop version as server
[20:31] <eek> i need some help proof reading my /etc/apt/sources.list .can anyone help
[20:31] <ikonia> Webu: it will help you learn the basics
[20:31] <LjL> eek: pastebin it
[20:31] <eek> LjL :)  address for that again please
[20:31] <LjL> !paste > eek    (eek, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:31] <ikonia> eek: it's in the topic
[20:31] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: Sorry I had to get the door...  Personally, I would install fresh gutsy than go through all of that.
[20:31] <brobostigon> !pastebin | eek
[20:31] <ubotu> eek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:31] <danand_> Webu - look at man interfaces for help with that file
[20:31] <Webu> ikonia, yeah sure, i just don't have any use for a GUI in my server.
[20:32] <rpj8> Huh. Odd. Wikipedia isn't showing me any images for some reason. Anyone have any idea what that's about?
[20:32] <eek> thank you
[20:32] <brobostigon> ikonia: your systax was wrong
[20:32] <masterjail> Webu: can you repeat your question please?
[20:32] <ikonia> Webu: apart from the fact that you don't know how to run basic admin task
[20:32] <ikonia> brobostigon: what syntax ?
[20:32] <Webu> masterjail, [22:29:47] <Webu> Anyone about ifconfig settings? Are they reset after a reboot? What should i edit to make them permanent (i need to assign an another IP-address to eth0)?
[20:32] <shinoj> anyone tell me how to connect my phone nokia 6230 as modem to take net in ubuntu
[20:32] <LJHarb> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, this is our main dev machine tho so it cant be out of commission for too long
[20:33] <rpj8> Webu: ifconfig settings aren't reset at reboot.
[20:33] <masterjail> mmm... what do you want to do is assign an static IP to your server ?
[20:33] <brobostigon> ikonia: try !pastebin | eek insted of !pastebin > eek which you used, yours wont work.
[20:33] <Weirdbeard|Work> I've written a shell program that I want to use when I'm working in the console. Is there some directory I can put it in so that I can use it like other, regular commands?
[20:33] <latinoguy> español
[20:33] <Webu> danand_, i'll do that too :) Thanks.
[20:33] <LjL> brobostigon: 1) it was me 2) it wasn't wrong
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: What about dual boot, two versions on the same pc?
[20:33] <pocketdrummer> hello everyone
[20:33] <latinoguy> cual es el canal español
[20:33] <LjL> !bot > brobostigon    (brobostigon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:33] <Webu> rpj8, hmmph okey.
[20:33] <Pici> !es | latinoguy
[20:33] <ubotu> latinoguy: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:33] <masterjail> yo soy español latinoguy :D
[20:33] <bluefox83> ok, i'm shopping for a laptop that i can put ubuntu on, and so far i think i want an HP laptop, but it has a dual core 64 bit proc, is there any reason i wouldn't be able to use stuff om ubuntu on it?
[20:33] <LJHarb> Jack_Sparrow then i'll have to re-do all our installations and settings tho, wont i?
[20:33] <Webu> ikonia, actually i know, i just haven't touched ifconfig much before.
[20:34] <latinoguy> does someone know and aplication to use as a download manager for rapidshare with premium account
[20:34] <masterjail> Webu: what do you want to do is assign an static IP to your server ?
[20:34] <danand_> !hardware | bluefox83
[20:34] <ubotu> bluefox83: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:34] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to make a G7 mouse work? When I try to edit xorg.conf and restart x, the video goes into low-quality mode. I'm using the restricted nVidia drivers.
[20:34] <Webu> masterjail, assign an another IP to the same interface and make it permanent.
[20:35] <Flare183> !es > Lantinoguy
[20:35] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: Yep, but at least you would still have the other up and running while you do it.. Just a thought
[20:35] <Webu> masterjail, just wanted to make sure how to make it permanent.
[20:35] <eek> LjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54911/ have a looksy thank you
[20:35] <danand_> bluefox83 - take a live CD into the shop and try before you buy :)
[20:35] <dimedo> has someone experience with building g15tools on ubuntu?
[20:35] <LjL> eek: messed up. which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:35] <bluefox83> danand_, i'm buying online
[20:36] <eek> LjL feisty
[20:36] <LJHarb> bluefox83: you can still walk into a best buy and try it
[20:36] <bluefox83> might try that >.>
[20:36] <ikonia> brobostigon: the > redirect is an accaptable redirector. and ljl was the person who sent that command not me. If you don't know what your saying - don't say it
[20:37] <ikonia> Webu: the network interface file is nothing to do with ifconfig - so don't make false excuses.
[20:37] <bbeattie> I got an itouch and am trying to connect it up to ubuntu with gtkpod.  lsusb shows the device but dmesg never reports that it's mapped it to /dev/sd? and I can never mount it. Using 7.10, any ideas? Thanks.
[20:37] <brobostigon> ikonia: that systax never worked for me, using >, and i deeply apologize,
[20:37] <LjL> eek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54912/ this should be better
[20:37] <danand_> bluefox83 - find a shop with the same model - they don't need to know your gonna go elsewhere :)
[20:38] <AlexQ> Hi. How to turn on the Laptop Monitor on Ubuntu, when I have external monitor connected (when I logged via GDM, the laptop monitor has turned off)?  You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:38] <amitprakash> hi.. whenever i reboot with a cd in the cd tray.. ubuntu shows two copies of mount on desktop of the cdrom. how do i fix this
[20:38] <danand_> AlexQ - what model of laptop do you have
[20:38] <AlexQ> danand_: Acer TravelMate 5710
[20:39] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> hi all I cannot connect to my wireless AP with no security enabled ...any ideas
[20:39] <eek> LjL: 20 lines right?
[20:39] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: depends what type of card are you using
[20:39] <Flare183> ?
[20:39] <crolle17> starting a process in the background like this? mongrel_rails start -e production &
[20:40] <LjL> eek: yes. i removed the part about Universe, since you had already Universe enabled in the first two lines anyway.
[20:40] <cjsoftu1> I'm trying to play an itms feed in any media player, but all I get is an error.  Anyone got any idea how to support itms:// links in Ubuntu, and which media player to use to view these?  Please note these are video files, not audio.
[20:40] <LJHarb> does the server version of ubuntu dapper not have an update manager?
[20:40] <Cpudan80> Will the default drivers for an aetheros wifi thing enter promiscuous mode?
[20:40] <danand_> AlexQ - hmm ... might have been able to help if it was a Dell. On that you just use the Fn+F8 to switch between laptop / external / laptop + external
[20:40] <eek> LjL:ok i have trouble w/ this stuff. it's called learning curve
[20:41] <LjL> eek: eh, i didn't say anything
[20:41] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: sitll there?
[20:41] <Flare183> still*
[20:41] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to make a G7 mouse work? When I try to edit xorg.conf and restart x, the video goes into low-quality mode. I'm using the restricted nVidia drivers.
[20:41] <eek> LjL  i know
[20:41] <AlexQ> danand_: I've used this combination, and I muted sound :D.
[20:42] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flannel, yes
[20:42] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: it's flare183
[20:42] <danand_> AlexQ - oh crap! :)
[20:42] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flare183, yes I am using ipw3945 intel
[20:42] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: but what type of card to you have? wireless or ethernet?
[20:42] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flare183, wireless
[20:42] <danbhfive> pocketdrummer: that doesn't sound like what should happen
[20:42] <rruben> HELLO
[20:43] <Flare183> !hi | rruben
[20:43] <ubotu> rruben: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:43] <danbhfive> pocketdrummer: I think I have a G5 btw
[20:43] <gidna> hi
[20:43] <lamalex> Can someone help me? I am in serious dependency cell
[20:43] <gidna> How can I insert the simbol of Sum in openoffice?
[20:43] <danand_> bye rruben :)
[20:43] <zoexii> hello, this one is about to make me nuts... I have a 4G ipod mounted via usb... it shows in fstab: "/dev/sdb2 on /media/IPOD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree)" the 'rw' means readable and writable yes?  when I try to copy music to the ipod or delete music from the ipod from nautilus or from commandline I get error: "cp: cannot create directory `/media/IPOD/music/The Police': Read-only file s
[20:43] <pocketdrummer> how do I reply to a specific person on this?
[20:43] <danbhfive> !tab > pocketdrummer
[20:44] <Starnestommy> pocketdrummer: like this?
[20:44] <pocketdrummer> yeah
[20:44] <Flare183> !tab | pocketdrummer
[20:44] <ubotu> pocketdrummer: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[20:44] <Flare183> oops
[20:44] <zoexii> pocketdrummer: type their username, then message
[20:44] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[20:44] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: that should help
[20:44] <pocketdrummer> danbhfive like this?
[20:44] <danbhfive> pocketdrummer: you got me
[20:44] <Flare183> haha
[20:44] <AlexQ> Hi. How to turn on the Laptop Monitor on Ubuntu, when I have external monitor connected (when I logged via GDM, the laptop monitor has turned off)?  I want my VNC to work similar to Window's remote desktop - when its full screen it shouldn't have a title bar so it can *really* be full screen.  I'm happy to use a key combination to get the title bar back
[20:45] <danbhfive> pocketdrummer: this is the website I used, but of course, its for a G5: http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/06/20/logitech-g5-review-under-linux
[20:45] <white_eagle> !screenlets
[20:45] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[20:46] <danand_> zoexii - try adding the option user to the fstab entry for your ipod
[20:46] <AlexQ> Flare183: It didn't work...
[20:46] <danbhfive> Wibble-: is this firefox?
[20:46] <pocketdrummer> danbhfave It should be close, the only real difference is that it's wireless :D
[20:46] <Flare183> AlexQ: you have to press it more than once
[20:46] <Wibble-> danbhfive: No - vncviewer
[20:46] <cjsoftu1> Anyone, any ideas about ITMS feeds...?
[20:47] <Codemaster> question: if I edit my /etc/sudoers file, do i have to restart the machine or anything like that for it to take effect?
[20:47] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: nope never heard of it
[20:47] <ader10> I would like to change the icon for the psd mime type. How?
[20:47] <Flare183> Codemaster: yeah but I wouldn't do that
[20:47] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: it's the ITunes Music Store feed
[20:47] <danand_> zoexii - ie user,rw,nosuid,nodev,short.... etc
[20:47] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: nope can't be done then
[20:47] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: it must be a rss or atom feed
[20:47] <eek> so i adjusted my repositories to univers & multiverse to try and apt-get xmms-mp4 but i get a Err Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'  Any ideas?
[20:47] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: It's a simple XML feed
[20:48] <danbhfive> Wibble-: I remember tightvnc had a java based viewer, so if that happens to be the vnc you are using, then use firefox, and hit F+11.   Thats the only suggestion I got
[20:48] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: Just it's not ATOM/RSS compliant
[20:48] <Wibble-> Flare183: Why do you have to erstart the machine to pick up a change to sudoers?
[20:48] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: it's the protical that your using
[20:48] <danand_> eek - server down?
[20:48] <ikonia> Wibble-: no
[20:48] <Wibble-> danbhfive: Ok - I'll look in to that
[20:48] <AlexQ> Flare183: It's still not working...
[20:48] <lamalex> please? my system is completely b0rked. apt-get -f install is failing
[20:48] <Flare183> AlexQ: beats me then
[20:48] <Rcd> whats mean etc?
[20:48] <Flare183> ikonia: oh really ok
[20:48] <eek> danand_:  I didn't ping it.  would this be the right add us.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:49] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: I can load it using http, and it works, just it's an a "proprietary" format as such
[20:49] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flare183, the card is identified
[20:49] <ikonia> Flare183: sudoers is dynamic
[20:49] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> I can connect at work to WEP
[20:49] <eek> its working
[20:49] <AlexQ> Flare183: But what with the software-based change?
[20:49] <zoexii> danand_: so, I should copy the entry that I get by typing 'mount', then add 'user' to the options, then paste that entry permanently into /etc/fstab ?
[20:49] <danand_> eek - just pinged it myself - its working ok
[20:49] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> but I can not connect to OPEN access points
[20:49]  * Flare183 says too many people at once
[20:49] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: I can't help...
[20:49] <Rcd> Who loves piter pen?
[20:50] <Flare183> AlexQ: i don't know
[20:50] <Flare183> !offtopic > Rcd
[20:50] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: OK, thanks anyway
[20:50] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: no problem
[20:50] <AlexQ> Flare183: OK, thanks anyway ;) xD.
[20:50] <Rcd> Flare183,  Piter pen is new linux distr
[20:50] <enzo> i'd like to modify /etc/resolv.conf, but it's said in this file to not edit directly, so how can i modify it ?
[20:50] <Flare183> Rcd: but you do't not here
[20:50] <Flare183> netsplit
[20:51] <Flare183> floodbot went nuts
[20:51] <Rcd> FSF
[20:51] <Flare183> Seveas: dude what happened?
[20:51] <zoexii> ??
[20:51] <ikonia> Rcd: what do you actually want ?
[20:51] <Seveas> Flare183, DCC attack
[20:51] <tts> i just got offerd a fil
[20:51] <tts> e
[20:51] <zoexii> tts: me too
[20:51] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: well I don't erally know but try modprobe (the card name)
[20:51] <Seveas> tts, ignore that, it's an attempt to make you disconnect
[20:51] <Flare183> Seveas: ah
[20:52] <Rcd> ikonia,  piter pen a new linux distr
[20:52] <tts> ok
[20:52] <danand_> zoexii - you can try that - just add the option noauto as well - otherwise ubuntu will try to mount it each time you boot. Just one thing first though - can you write to the device as root?
[20:52] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flare183, I tried unloading and loading the card moule
[20:52] <ikonia> Rcd: this is ubuntu support - for ubuntu support questions only. Please stick to that topic in this channel
[20:52] <zoexii> danand_: yeah I tried that from command line,
[20:52] <pocketdrummer> How do I know if xserver-xorg-input-evdev is installed?
[20:52] <zoexii> same error
[20:52] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: umm try to modprobe ipw whatever
[20:52] <Rcd> ikonia,  ok what of ubuntu version u like? :D
[20:53] <ikonia> Rcd: this is a support channel, not a chat channel. ubuntu-chatter is #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:53] <Flare183> !offtopic > Rcd (sorry get use to it)
[20:53] <Rcd> ikonia,  ok can i help u with ubuntu? :D
[20:53] <eek> danand_:  LjL:   Thank you!  go day to you both
[20:53] <ader10> I would like to change the icon for the psd mime type. How?
[20:54] <ikonia> Rcd: repond to questions if you can help
[20:54] <eek> good
[20:54] <Flare183> ikonia: just kick him or something
[20:54] <Flare183> ikonia: no offense
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> LOL, check this out: http://vanduska.com/computers/bill-gates-secret-message/
[20:54] <ikonia> non-taken
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> Bill gates secret messag
[20:54] <danand_> zoexii - the user option may not help then - try using the mount command from the command line first to see if that "user" option helps
[20:54] <Flare183> !spam > WeedGrinch
[20:54] <Flare183> WeedGrinch: quit the crap
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> Uhm its not spam
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> Its not spam
[20:54] <Seveas> !ot | WeedGrinch
[20:54] <zoexii> danand_: ok, will try
[20:54] <ubotu> WeedGrinch: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:54] <LjL> !ot | WeedGrinch
[20:54] <Flare183> WeedGrinch: this is support not chat bull crap
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> Fuck you
[20:55] <ikonia> Flare183: tone it down
[20:55] <Flare183> ikonia: ok
[20:55] <gub> hahaha
[20:55] <latinoguy> help with rapídshare with premium account and ubuntu??
[20:55] <ikonia> Flare183: it gets like this - just ride it out
[20:55] <Flare183> ikonia: gotcha will do
[20:55] <latinoguy> i need some program to download
[20:55] <brobostigon> latinoguy: what is rapidshare??
[20:56] <uKKeMan> lol
[20:56] <ikonia> uKKeMan: what ?
[20:56] <latinoguy> is a site where you can upload or download files
[20:56] <latinoguy> is a hosting file service
[20:56] <ikonia> !offtopic > latinoguy
[20:56] <amitprakash> hi.. whenever i reboot with a cd in the cd tray.. ubuntu shows two copies of mount on desktop of the cdrom. how do i fix this
[20:56] <latinoguy> www.rapidshare.com
[20:56] <brobostigon> latinoguy: have you tried wget
[20:56] <ikonia> latinoguy: please stop
[20:57] <latinoguy> what is the problem ikonia???
[20:57] <danand_> amitprakash - dont boot with a cd in the tray :))
[20:58] <ikonia> latinoguy: this is not an ubuntu issue
[20:58] <PriitM> hi, which command should I use when I would like to restart sound server?
[20:58] <latinoguy> you dont help ?? only to say stop??
[20:58] <latinoguy> why??
[20:58] <ikonia> latinoguy: posting links to file hosts is not apporpriate
[20:58] <xGeek> haha
[20:58] <durex_a> Bulgaria ?
[20:58] <amitprakash> danand_, right.. but whats causing the issue
[20:58] <danand_> amitprakash - sorry - i couldn't resist :)
[20:58] <latinoguy> then what it is??
[20:58] <latinoguy> and ubuntu issue??
[20:58] <danand_> amitprakash - not sure - wierd one
[20:58] <latinoguy> can you explain me??
[20:58] <syntaxerror55> Does the live CD boot up always take this long? it stalls ay 7% "Starting Linux Kernel", the CD tray light thing isn't orange, and the computer isn't making any noise.
[20:58] <ikonia> latinoguy: this channel is for support of the ubuntu operating system only
[20:58] <latinoguy> plaease just ignorme
[20:58] <latinoguy> be happy
[20:59] <amitprakash> syntaxerror55, its weird if comp makes noise
[20:59] <xGeek> inappropriate is such a strange word to hear on irc
[20:59] <amitprakash> hi.. whenever i reboot with a cd in the cd tray.. ubuntu shows two copies of mount on desktop of the cdrom. how do i fix this??
[20:59] <LjL> latinoguy: and you, please stick to the channel's topic
[20:59] <xGeek> how can anything be strange on this here series of tubes? :)
[20:59] <latinoguy> cmon
[20:59] <syntaxerror55> amitprakash: Oh, I'd think so.
[20:59] <latinoguy> what is happening with this comunity
[21:00] <mranostay_work> any clue what is causing this?
[21:00] <mranostay_work> Setting up tzdata (2007k-0ubuntu0.7.10) ...
[21:00] <mranostay_work> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):
[21:00] <mranostay_work>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[21:00] <mranostay_work> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:00] <mranostay_work>  tzdata
[21:00] <FloodBot2> mranostay_work: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <epifanio> hi anyone had experience on how to enable wiriles on a ibook-g4 ?
[21:01] <epifanio> i'm running ubuntu7.10-ppc
[21:01] <jeisma> does anyone now hwy all my drop down menus will start freakin out before i can choose something from it?
[21:01] <jeisma> as in, it'll just start blinking before it drops down
[21:01] <dusty_> Bad configuration, hardware errors, wrong freqencies.
[21:01] <dusty_> loads of shit
[21:01] <Flare183> brb
[21:01] <jeisma> any idea how to begin fixing it?
[21:01] <DRebellion> !language | dusty_
[21:01] <ubotu> dusty_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:01] <Flare183> !lanague
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanague - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <Flare183> oops
[21:02] <jeisma> cause it wasn't like it yesterday
[21:02] <TommyJ> !chii
[21:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chii - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:02] <TommyJ> where can i get chii ?
[21:02] <DRebellion> Flare183: noisy away messages aren't needed. use /away instead.
[21:02] <jeisma> where can i go to change my scheme?
[21:02] <jeisma> my overall scheme
[21:02] <jeisma> login, desktop, windows, etc
[21:02] <jeisma> i mean download a new one
[21:03] <DRebellion> !theme | jeisma
[21:03] <ubotu> jeisma: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:03] <jeisma> thanks DRebellion
[21:04] <danand_> why has http://www.ubuntu-art.org/ been left out of the theme list??
[21:05] <Guildenstern> what should I prefer? the radeon driver or fglrx ?
[21:05] <ikonia> Guildenstern: really depends on support for you card
[21:05] <hyper_ch> hiho, I wonder if I use a keyfile for dm_crypt/luks is there something I should worry about? minimal filesize or something?
[21:05] <DRebellion> danand_: it's probably just been forgotten. make a request to add it.
[21:05] <Guildenstern> both support my card
[21:06] <danand_> DRebellion - err how do you do that??
[21:06] <Guildenstern> however the i must buld the fglrx from source for aiglx
[21:06] <Guildenstern> build
[21:06] <DRebellion> !bot > danand_ (read the pm from ubotu)
[21:07] <JvA> Is there some way to completly remove Compiz from Ubuntu 7.10 or turn it off? With Kubuntu I got 8000 fps with glxgears, but now in Ubuntu with Compiz "almost" turned off I get 6000.
[21:07] <JvA> How do I make it completly turned off?
[21:07] <ikonia> JvA: disable "desktop effects"
[21:08] <JvA> ikonia, did that. And then I got 6000 fps instead of 3000.
[21:08] <JvA> ikonia, still 2000 fps too slow.
[21:08] <ikonia> JvA: ati card ?
[21:08] <JvA> ikonia, NVIDIA 8600GT
[21:08] <stroyan> JvA:  What are you going to do with that last 2000 fps?  Hang it on the wall? ;-)
[21:08] <DRebellion> JvA: 6000 fps is 100 frames per second (isn't that fast enough)?
[21:08] <ikonia> oooh really, not sure how the support for the 8600 is to be honest
[21:09] <epifanio> i followed these guide, but at step : sudo make install ; i get the these error : : /usr/sbin/athenable: Command not found
[21:09] <epifanio> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[21:09] <proppi> DRebellion: 6000fps is 6000 frames per second
[21:09] <JvA> straterra and DRebellion: The thing is that when I move a window I notice that it renders much more badly then with Kubuntu. When I play movies fast, the same problem. Compiz is crap for video quality :/
[21:09] <DRebellion> proppi: aww crap, i'm converting from frames per minute :/ too much maths revision...
[21:09] <JvA> ikonia, the support is good in the nivida-glx-new driver at least.
[21:10] <jeisma> What are some tips to free up memory on kubuntu?
[21:10] <proppi> heh, i figured ;P
[21:10] <ikonia> JvA: not that good, your not getting the frame rates you want
[21:10] <proppi> well
[21:10] <proppi> ubuntu and kubuntu is still kde vs. gnome
[21:10] <JvA> The thing is that I clearly see rectanglemarks on the screen. Like, if I watch a fast action movie I see the picture being drawn.
[21:10] <lamalex> gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: gconftool-2: undefined symbol: g_option_context_new
[21:10] <JvA> I did not have that problem on Gentoo.
[21:10] <lamalex> dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[21:10] <JvA> So I want Compiz gone...
[21:10] <proppi> one window manager might use more resources than the other
[21:10] <ikonia> JvA: I've never used an 8600 so don't know if thats normal
[21:10] <lamalex> I keep getting that error, I can't install anything at all
[21:10] <ikonia> JvA: disabling it makes it "gone"
[21:11] <lamalex> or upgrade, or fix this dependcy hell im in
[21:11] <JvA> ikonia, but it doesn't :/
[21:11] <proppi> kde might give you 8000fps just because its kde and not gnome
[21:11] <ikonia> JvA: how do you know it's compiz
[21:11] <DRebellion> !enter | lamalex
[21:11] <ubotu> lamalex: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:11] <JvA> proppi, but what does Gnome do to just rob me of 2000 fps? It seems rather weird.
[21:11] <lamalex> DRebellion: that was middle clicks fault
[21:11] <ikonia> JvA: I agree
[21:12] <ikonia> JvA: nothing that points at compiz obviously though
[21:12] <lamalex> I think irssi interprets \n as a <return>
[21:12] <proppi> jva. well, gnome has some built in transparency and perhaps some other bloat that kde doesn't or kde did better (dont know how, kde is bloatheaven)
[21:12] <DRebellion> lamalex: i think unix interprets \n as a <return>
[21:12] <JvA> proppi, can the transparency be turned off?
[21:12] <ikonia> JvA: thats part of meta city
[21:12] <proppi> jva: im thinking of transparency for the panels and terminals and such, metacity
[21:13] <ikonia> JvA: does ps -ef | grep compiz show it as running
[21:13] <meuserj> ikonia: metacity has no actual transparency...
[21:13] <meuserj> just pseudo transparency by putting on an image
[21:13] <JvA> ikonia, nope
[21:13] <kadakas> does anyone know how to restore stuff made with Simple Backup ?
[21:13] <lamalex> DRebellion: yes
[21:13] <pinsmack> i don't know if this is the place but when i play songs on amarok  they won't scrobble on last.fm. even though i signed in and everything. help please.
[21:13] <cr4z3d`> what's the best chat program that supports webcam?
[21:13] <proppi> jva: if you get a empty X up and running with terminal and direct rendering, what fps do you get?
[21:13] <ikonia> JvA: good good, at least it's not running
[21:13] <DRebellion> !best | cr4z3d`
[21:14] <JvA> proppi, I'll try that.
[21:14] <ubotu> cr4z3d`: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[21:14] <JvA> brb
[21:14] <brobostigon> cr4z3d`: amsn is one option
[21:14] <CrabMan2020> hey guys
[21:14] <strabes> is it possible to make openoffice autocorrect when there's only one spelling suggestion?
[21:14] <CrabMan2020> i need some help
[21:14] <cr4z3d`> brobostigon, any others? i think i used amsn once and it just looked weird on my desktop
[21:15] <brobostigon> cr4z3d`: amsn is the only one i know of
[21:15] <CrabMan2020> i just installed the nvidia drivers for my nvidia card (there are no restricteds for my card) and it worked fine till i restared
[21:15] <CrabMan2020> now my reso is off and all
[21:15] <proppi> strabes: i think autocorrection is another function than the dictionary itself, its coded into the autocorrection table
[21:15] <tts> how can i creat a  link to my fil systm
[21:15] <CrabMan2020> it told me that im not running the nvidia driver so i ran the nvidia-config command and restarted X
[21:15] <CrabMan2020> it worked but
[21:15] <HankDogDaddy> Hey guys, does anyone know how to view the assembly language from compiled c programs using gcc?
[21:16] <CrabMan2020> now i cant set ubuntu to my native reso
[21:16] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: it's compiled - you can't read it
[21:16] <proppi> !enter | CrabMan2020
[21:16] <CrabMan2020> i think the screen is set as failsafe screen or something
[21:16] <ubotu> CrabMan2020: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:16] <CrabMan2020> ok
[21:16] <CrabMan2020> sorry :P
[21:16] <strabes> proppi: yeah, that's my problem. A lot of times I make a one-letter typo and the correct spelling is obvious. When I right click on the word, there's only one spelling suggestion. I just want to know if there's a way to make openoffice just go ahead and change it when there's only 1 suggestion anyway.
[21:17] <strabes> automatically
[21:17] <AlexQ> Evince crashes when I want to print PDF, but the PDF-reading and printing other files works correctly... What I have to do?
[21:17] <ouellettesr> does anyone know how to backup a mysql database?
[21:17] <HankDogDaddy> ikonia: Maybe I have a problem with understanding what compilers do... What step does a c program get 'translated' per say, into assembly?
[21:17] <CrabMan2020> where is my xorg file?
[21:17] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: at compilation
[21:17] <danand_> Crab
[21:17] <danand_> oops
[21:17] <cr4z3d`> CrabMan2020, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:17] <CromhDearg> Hi folks
[21:17] <ouellettesr> CrabMan2020, /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[21:18] <HankDogDaddy> ikonia: So... how would one view that?
[21:18] <ouellettesr> ;p
[21:18] <danand_> thats it!
[21:18] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: view what ?
[21:18] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: you can only view the code before it's compiled
[21:18] <AlexQ> Evince crashes when I want to print PDF, but the PDF-reading and printing other files works correctly... What I have to do? Try to re-install?
[21:18] <ouellettesr> danand_, that worked form me earlier thanks
[21:18] <HankDogDaddy> ikonia: I want to view the assembly language itself
[21:18] <hunter> guys can anyone tell me what is the codec needed for playing songs from this site http://www.coolmusiczone.com/ pls
[21:18] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: you can't
[21:18] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: it's compiled
[21:18] <proppi> HankDogDaddy: google around for disassembler or disassembly
[21:18] <DRebellion> ikonia: i think you _can_ view the assembly language of an executable...
[21:18] <pinsmack> ...anyone?
[21:18] <danand_> ouellettesr - nice one! no problem
[21:19] <brobostigon> ikonia: is it possible to decompile a prog??
[21:19] <ouellettesr> does any one have an expierence with moving mysql databases?
[21:19] <nemilar> ouellettesr: I do
[21:19] <ikonia> brobostigon: not really (technically - yes)
[21:19] <nemilar> it's just so much fun! NOT.
[21:19] <proppi> its is possible to view the machine code which is actually assembly code
[21:19] <borgista> ouellettesr: Maybe try the mysql room?
[21:19] <proppi> using a disassembler on a c program will give you the assembly code
[21:19] <ouellettesr> nemilar, i am trying to move my database from one webserver to another, im using cpanel
[21:20] <proppi> so you cannot decompile it per se but you can read the code in the program
[21:20] <CromhDearg> nautilus is popping up at login how can i stop it?
[21:20] <AlexQ> Evince crashes when I want to print PDF, but the PDF-reading and printing other files works correctly... What I have to do? Try to re-install?
[21:20] <HankDogDaddy> proppi: Hmm, any known dissambley programs for ubuntu?
[21:20] <HankDogDaddy> proppi: that would be in the repos maybe
[21:20] <proppi> some disassemblers is available for i.e. java to take the machine code into assembly and back upto java code.
[21:20] <LjL> ikonia, brobostigon: i thought there was a decompiler in the repos, but i either imagined it, or it's been removed. anyway, it's pretty clear you can never get back the original source (with meaningful variable names and loop structures, etc), the best a decompiler would give you is some correct, but unintelligible, C code
[21:21] <ikonia> LjL: exactly - technically you can, in reality not really
[21:21] <HankDogDaddy> LjL: right, but we are looking for the assembly code, not the c code
[21:21] <LjL> HankDogDaddy: then it's not a decompiler, but a disassembler. different thing.
[21:22] <HankDogDaddy> LjL: gotcha
[21:22] <proppi> HankDogDaddy: gdb iirc
[21:22] <LjL> brobostigon, etc: this is the one i had in mind - http://boomerang.sourceforge.net/
[21:23] <hunter> guys can anyone tell me what is the codec needed for playing songs from this site http://www.coolmusiczone.com/ pls
[21:24] <proppi> HankDogDaddy: take a look at this paper http://www.milw0rm.com/papers/47
[21:27] <cr4z3d`> i seem to be having a lot of packet loss using ipw3945 and network manager on a WPA network but if i turn off encryption everything seems to work fine. is there a better driver i should be using for WPA?
[21:27] <dhude> my monitor isn't listed on ubuntu... how to make someone put it there?
[21:27] <tomd> if I am properly using alsa I should be able to play two files at once, right?
[21:28] <DRebellion> dhude: submit a bug?
[21:28] <dhude> DRebellion: how?
[21:29] <DRebellion> !bug | dhude
[21:29] <ubotu> dhude: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[21:29] <IdleOne> dhude, does your monitor work with ubuntu?
[21:30] <dhude> yes it does, IdleOne
[21:30] <DRebellion> hunter: works here if you select standalone player and have mozilla-mplayer installed
[21:30] <dhude> it just doesn't get the desired ideal resolution
[21:30] <IdleOne> dhude, then it is not a bug but an omiison in supported hardware list
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> is it true that Transmission will be the default torrent application for 8.04?
[21:30] <IdleOne> !fixres | dhude
[21:30] <ubotu> dhude: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:31] <randunel> hi. i just installed ati drivers for my new ati video card. i followed the guide provided by cchtml thoroughly, but i get an error not mentioned in their guide (after the installation), as well as a "white screen" after login. Anyone able to assist me?
[21:31] <dhude> yeah, IdleOne, tried all that, nothing works
[21:31] <IdleOne> dhude, well then file a bug :)
[21:31] <bobbo> can someone help me with the problem i posted at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688659
[21:32] <Bethesda> Good evening all.
[21:32] <m1r> eve
[21:32] <IdleOne> evening
[21:33] <randunel> maybe this will help anyone who might want to assist me, the error in the logs is: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error -1023
[21:33] <randunel> one of the errors
[21:33] <randunel> :)
[21:33] <IdleOne> I have a acer s290 gutsy installs fine as far as I can tell except for the fact that I cannot get internet working. any ideas
[21:34] <Bethesda> Hmm, that is weird, what internet mode does it say it's on IdleOne?
[21:34] <IdleOne> !ati | randunel
[21:34] <DRebellion> IdleOne: can you explain in great detail exactly what your setup is, what you have tried, what happens when you try, and any error messages
[21:34] <ubotu> randunel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:34] <bobbo> anyone able to help with my WD MyBook RAID drive?
[21:34] <m1r> randunel: what vga ?
[21:34] <tomd> IdleOne: what kind of nic?
[21:34] <randunel> mlr: ati radeon x1950pro
[21:35] <stroyan> bobbo:  Does 'cat /proc/partitions' show any indication that the drive was added?
[21:35] <bahman> Hello everybody
[21:35] <m1r> randunel: raestricetd drivers or follow link above
[21:35] <IdleOne> Bethesda, DRebellion  I have tried everything, DHCP/Static ip roam enabled and disabled. it just does not work and I dont know what else to do . internet does not work with live cd either
[21:36] <IdleOne> tomd, onboard SiS gigabit something or other
[21:36] <randunel> IdleOne and mlr, there is a better guide (up-to-date) for the *new* ati driver (8.1 catalyst) at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.1_Driver_Manually
[21:36] <bahman> How could I find the "synaptic package manager" downloaded packages?!
[21:36] <IdleOne> dont know exact model name ATM
[21:36] <bobbo> stroyan: i think ive found it, its just showing up with the wrong numver of partitions
[21:36] <tomd> IdleOne: sounds like a nasty card
[21:36] <tomd> IdleOne: is the module loaded?
[21:36] <randunel> mlr, the link provided is for an *outdated* driver !!
[21:37] <IdleOne> tomd, I am on windows right now but I do not believe module was loading, I may be wrong .
[21:37] <Bethesda> IdleOne, do you have any connection at all? ( behind your PC )
[21:37] <sunseeker888_> hi guys, is there something similar to notepad, i could install?
[21:37] <cybo> need help. new to linux, ubuntu and to computers. wireless won't work. can anyone help?
[21:37] <tomd> IdleOne: well, you're going to have to check that before you proceed fixing it
[21:37] <IdleOne> Bethesda, I can ping internal ip but not router ip
[21:37] <Pirate_Hunter> what would openshh be useful for?
[21:37] <LjL> sunseeker888_: ... gedit?
[21:38] <DRebellion> sunseeker888_: you already have gedit   applications -> accessories -> text editor
[21:38] <tomd> IdleOne: if you can ping, you might just be using lo
[21:38] <bahman> Synaptic package manager download packager in which directory?!
[21:38] <brobostigon> cybo: first, calm down.
[21:38] <DRebellion> bahman: what did you install?
[21:38] <sunseeker888_> Thanks, still learning
[21:38] <brobostigon> cybo: then calming describe the rpoblem
[21:38] <cr4z3d`> is there a way to disable desktop effects when using battery power?
[21:38] <bahman> DRebellion Its different?!
[21:38] <IdleOne> tomd, seems so. I also have a realtek nic in the machine that worked fine before on my older machine but not anymore
[21:39] <DRebellion> !equivalents > sunseeker888_ (read the pm from ubotu - may interest you)
[21:39] <bahman> I install lots of things!
[21:39] <tapoxi> Hi all, is there any way to prevent X from starting when you're installing from the desktop CD? I need to install a driver before X boots for the first time, otherwise I get an unreadable resolution
[21:39] <DRebellion> bahman: i am confused as to what you are trying to achieve.
[21:39] <Bethesda> Did anyone notice the nautilus errors on 8.04 by the way? Any way I can bypass that at the moment?
[21:40] <HankDogDaddy> is there any advantage to compiling your own programs from source as opposed to using the repos?
[21:40] <sunseeker888> Cheers DRebbellion
[21:40] <m1r> Bethesda: #ubuntu+1
[21:40] <IdleOne> HankDogDaddy, no as a matter of fact it might be worse
[21:40] <bahman> DRebellion I install lots of things! infact I wanna to know APTonCD create a backup from which directory?!
[21:40] <randunel> Allright, let me rephrase my problem. I succeeded in following the steps from an installer guide, yet I get an unusual error (in the error logs), also getting a white screen (white cube) after logging in. The error(s): fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error -1023; fglrx(0): cannot init AGP; fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized.
[21:40] <IdleOne> HankDogDaddy, packages in the repos may not be latest and greatest but they work
[21:41] <HankDogDaddy> IdleOne: I gotcha, its just, compiling from source is really the only 'universal' way to install things on linux
[21:41] <m1r> randunel: sry mm8, off my league
[21:41] <HankDogDaddy> IdleOne: I was kind of wondering if it would be a valuable skill to learn
[21:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tapoxi: Do you run livecd ok?
[21:41] <HankDogDaddy> IdleOne: I've done it following instructions for a couple different applications
[21:41] <randunel> mlr, ok, thank you at least for taking interest :)
[21:42] <bahman> DRebellion ex. I download and also install Kalzium in Ubuntu, in which directory could I found the downloaded package of Kalzium?!
[21:42] <IdleOne> HankDogDaddy, well if you insist. install in /opt. always good to know how to compile I guess. most major distros provide packages pre-configured for the OS
[21:42] <DRebellion> bahman: are you talking about the .deb file ?
[21:42] <Bethesda> By the way MLR, thanks for that link.
[21:42] <bahman> DRebellion Yeah
[21:42] <bahman> DRebellion :D
[21:43] <DRebellion> bahman: could have just said so...
[21:43] <randunel> mlr, can you alt least help me with a forum where I might find someone to assist me? :)
[21:43] <DRebellion> bahman: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:43] <tapoxi> Jack_Sparrow: No, I need to install my ATI FireGL driver first, then wait for X to try and start again. It's just a hassle typing when I can't see, and I'd prefer X not try until I type startx
[21:44] <bahman> DRebellion .deb file which downloaded with the "synaptic package manager" in Gnome desktop environment of Ubuntu
[21:44] <bahman> DRebellion let me see
[21:44] <tapoxi> Jack_Sparrow: once installed, it runs fine. I'm on the livecd now
[21:44] <m1r> randueđ
[21:44] <m1r> randunel: ubuntu.com?
[21:45] <randunel> mlr lol ok. ty.
[21:45] <bahman> DRebellion Really thanks :*
[21:45] <lufis> I'm trying to compile a vanilla kernel. I make two deb packages, one for headers and one for the kernel itself, and it installs the script in the deb's that adds the new kernel to the grub menu. But it's not actually being added to grub. What's up with that?
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tapoxi:I doubt you are going to get that driver in place that way from live cd
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tapoxi: You can however, force it to vesa mode, then once installed get the driver in place.  How did you get into live?
[21:46] <Flare183> How do i convert a ogg movie to a  AVI, MPEG, Quicktime, Real, and Windows Media file?
[21:46] <dusty_> how do you strectch the gnome panel across dual screen setups?
[21:46] <DRebellion> Flare183: i recommend mencoder
[21:46] <tapoxi> Jack_Sparrow: I installed the driver while running the livecd, it's running the propreitary firegl driver now. It does work, I just want to disable X until I give it the cue to start.
[21:46] <Flare183> DRebellion: ok
[21:47] <stroyan> lufis:  You installed the kernel image with  dpkg -i ??  Do you have more than one bootable disk, so grub may be looking at a different menu.lst than the install?
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead > dusty_
[21:47] <lufis> stroyan: nope, only one disc... and yes, dpkg -i
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tapoxi: I have no idea on how to do that.
[21:47] <tapoxi> Jack_Sparrow: Oh well, thanks
[21:47] <josh> Flash still broken I take it
[21:47] <Hemebond> Morning all. My sound is still poked after yesterdays updates. I've spent hours trying to find a fix. Apparently there was a patch submitted years ago.
[21:48] <lufis> stroyan: i would add it manually to the grub menu but i'm afraid i don't know enough about boot options etc. to do that
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> josh: Easy enough to install manually for people that insist on having it.
[21:48] <Sukta> I'll deal without
[21:48] <dusty_> Jack_Sparrow, I have dual monitor setup working.  I just want the gnome panels stretched across the two monitors rather than being on the one. Looking at the link you gave me doesn't answer my question ?
[21:48] <Sukta> i just go tthe system ruinning again
[21:48] <Bulwinkle> are there any tricks and/or tips for compiling banshee from svn on 7.10?
[21:48] <wil_> im still trying the basics :S.... I am trying a app that is for linux, do I got for the tar or rpm?
[21:49] <Sonja> i'm in a live session. how do i mount teh hard drive called /dev/sdc so i can get files from it?
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> dusty_: the only other link I know of is for twinview
[21:49] <DRebellion> Bulwinkle: my tip: don't. just install from repos.
[21:49] <dusty_> hmm
[21:49] <Bulwinkle> Sonja: sudo mount /dev/sdcX /media/partition
[21:49] <stroyan> lufis:  You could copy an existing line in menu.lst and change it to point to your new kernel.  But it really should have just worked.  Perhaps 'sudo update-grub' will add it.
[21:49] <tapoxi> Is there any boot flag to disable X on the desktop cD?
[21:49] <tapoxi> *CD
[21:50] <tts> how can i check if my nfs is exporting
[21:50] <tts> ?
[21:50] <Bulwinkle> DRebellion: but there is all kinds of new stuff not in the repo :)
[21:50] <Sonja> Bulwinkle: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdcX /media/partition
[21:50] <Sonja> mount: mount point /media/partition does not exist
[21:50] <jetscreamer> tapoxi: single would work, then you could disable gdm amybe
[21:50] <jetscreamer> /media/whateveryouchoose
[21:50] <Bulwinkle> Sonja: sudo mkdir /media/partition
[21:50] <Sonja> ok
[21:50] <varitech> bonsoir
[21:51] <Sonja> Bulwinkle: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdcX /media/partition
[21:51] <Sonja> mount: special device /dev/sdcX does not exist
[21:51] <DRebellion> !fr | varitech
[21:51] <ubotu> varitech: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: X = Should be equal to a partition number
[21:52] <lufis> stroyan: let's see...
[21:52] <Sonja> what if that hard drive only has 1 partition
[21:52] <Sonja> then zero?
[21:52] <DRebellion> Sonja: no, 1
[21:53] <aldaek> so is apparmor new to 7.10?
[21:53] <lufis> stroyan: Worked! :)
[21:53] <lufis> stroyan: Thanks
[21:53] <stroyan> lufis:  good.  But still mysterious...
[21:53] <lufis> stroyan: could be because i'm running hardy, bugs and all
[21:54] <Bulwinkle> i'm running ubuntu 7.10 from a usb drive I installed as described here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/  for some reason it isn't allowing me to add the restricted drivers for my nvidia card
[21:54] <andrisp> hello, i have ubuntu desktop with two virtual desktops. often when i open program in left desktop, its window is so large that some pixels goes into right desktop. why is that and how can i avoid that ?
[21:54] <Robbster> andrisp: you have dual head?
[21:54] <johnficc1> hi can I install on a system with only 128mb of ram?
[21:55] <IdleOne> !xubuntu | johnficc1
[21:55] <ubotu> johnficc1: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[21:55] <brobostigon> johnficc1: alternate cd
[21:55] <alexh> hi need help with frames with java on ubuntu 710,amd64
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal
[21:55] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:55] <andrisp> Robbster: no, just to virtual desktops (i hope that the right name for this) and one screen
[21:55] <Robbster> Sound Problem: Lenovo Z61m and 7.10. Solved with backported kernel (2.6.22-14), but that kernel breaks WIFI.
[21:55] <Ax-Ax> My computer hangs on "screensaver" in flux, but i don't run a screensaver
[21:55] <tts> what log do i look in to see if nfs is working ok ?
[21:56] <Ax-Ax> In xfce it doesnt hang ;S
[21:56] <Indiadev_Techie>  johnficc1: u can install using abuntu alternate cd..... n assigning during 1 - 2gb swap partition... for the system.....
[21:56] <Ax-Ax> What can it depend on?
[21:57] <sunseeker888> HI guys, is there a way to check my download speed connection? I have a 10MBits download
[21:57] <wil_> im still trying the basics :S.... I am trying a app that is for linux, do I got for the tar or rpm?
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tar
[21:57] <Robbster> johnficc1: you can, but it won't be pleasent. look at some of the minimal window managers - full gnome may be too heavy
[21:57] <whitman> wil_, what's the app? Chances are it might be in a repository
[21:58] <Webu> sunseeker888, try http://www.speedtest.net/
[21:58] <Webu> sunseeker888, there's a lot of different servers to test your connection with :)
[21:58] <wil_> vmware player
[21:58] <wil_> i am just fed up, using a old version of ubuntu and the repositorys are not working, and I am having trouble installing apps :(
[21:58] <johnficc1> Robbster: thanks
[21:58] <sunseeker888> Thanks webu
[21:58] <brobostigon> webu: an y that work, without the need for flash or java??
[21:58] <LjL> wil_: which version?
[21:59] <wil_> waiting for the shipit stuff.... I have waisted 3 cds trying to get it installed :( so I am going to try and do it in a VM
[21:59] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: my dear, ubuntu has its own sets of application with .dev extension....
[21:59] <wil_> im using ubuntu 5.10
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> johnficc1: did you see the link on minimal..?
[21:59] <deadlyallance737> anybody ever have much luck running ubuntu on a tablet?
[21:59] <Webu> brobostigon, sorry i didn't understand that properly :/
[21:59] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: sorry, my dear, ubuntu has its own sets of application with .deb (debian) extension....
[21:59] <wil_> I want the latest version, but I just cant upgrade :(
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[21:59] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[21:59] <johnficc1> Jack_Sparrow: no
[21:59] <johnficc1> what link
[21:59] <LjL> wil_: the repositories aren't working because that version is at end-of-life
[21:59] <LjL> wil_: why can't you upgrade?
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> johnficc1: Scroll back...  see !minimal
[22:00] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: what version r u usin.....
[22:00] <Robbster> deadlyallance737: apparently there is some success with tablet - but I guess it depends on which tablet and how much time you have .
[22:00] <brobostigon> webu: a connection speed test, but my machine has no jave, and no flash??
[22:00] <LjL> Indiadev_Techie, wil_ is on Breezy
[22:00] <wil_> I have created 3 iso cds with diffrent burners on diffrent pcs, and every time, it boots to the menu, but when I choose a option, it just says boot error or something and restarts :(
[22:00] <wil_> I have tried on diffrent pcs, so there is some sort of error here
[22:00] <Robbster> deadlyallance737:  from what I've heard, setting up X with the tablet should JustWork(tm)
[22:00] <Webu> brobostigon, try to download larger files from a good location.
[22:00] <wil_> I just did the ship it thing and I am hoping it will come soon
[22:01] <brobostigon> webu: ok,thanks
[22:01] <Robbster> wil_: did you verigy the iso's before you burned them?
[22:01] <wil_> I just want to try the latest version + wine to see if I can use ubuntu instead of windows for my business :( just having so many problems :(
[22:01] <LjL> wil_, have you tried a different *cd drive*? i.e. not the burner, the drive you use to boot it up
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> wil_: Did you check the md5 on the file you are burning
[22:01] <deadlyallance737> robbster looking to get a hp tx1000z its a 2.1 amd x2 64 bit with the nividea go 6150
[22:01] <wil_> what do you mean by verify? I did a simulation before burn, and did a check and all the files are there
[22:01] <LjL> !verify | wil_, means this
[22:01] <ubotu> wil_, means this: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[22:01] <Robbster> deadlyallance737: I'm the wrong person to ask - try posting to the ubuntu forumns?
[22:02] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: u will get those cds may be within this month... depending opon ur region.....
[22:02] <wil_> I dont know how to do md5... but I have downloaded twice on diffrent pcs and burnt three times, but I get the error each time
[22:02] <deadlyallance737> robster ok thanks dude
[22:02] <Webu> brobostigon, it depends where you live, you can try Ubuntu's CD-images from a nearby download location :)
[22:02] <wil_> I guess for me, I am going to go back to windows (may not be perfect, but works for what I need), and when my shipit stuff comes, il try again
[22:02] <brobostigon> webu: i get average, over 200kbps
[22:03] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: try to update it or do a clean format.... with ubuntu v7.10
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> wil_: Get the md5 checker....  and burn at the slowest possible speed
[22:03] <wil_> I know some people said that it is not ideal to upgrade to big releases, it is best to do a fresh install... but I just want to check a few things and see if I can use ubuntu for what I need.... is there any command I can use to update 5.10 to the latest?
[22:03] <Webu> brobostigon, you mean over 200 KB/s?
[22:04] <bitmonster> join #ubuntu.de
[22:04] <brobostigon> webu: kilobype per second, yes
[22:04] <cr3> what's the name of that volume or brightness window which appears when pressing on the volume and brightness buttons on my laptop?
[22:04] <Robbster> wil_: technically you can, but it will be quicker and less painful to just get the latest iso and write that.
[22:04] <Webu> brobostigon, yeah, that's an average for a 2Mbit (download) connection.
[22:04] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: yes, u should go for n fresh install.....
[22:05] <Sonja> i can't access the files in /media/xyz/home/sonja
[22:05] <mykey> hello!  im new to ubuntu and linux and still in the trial phase.  i could use some help with configuring grub.
[22:05] <Indiadev_Techie>  brobostigon: r u over adsl line....
[22:05] <DRebellion> wil_: *sigh*  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:05] <wil_> well, as I said, this is just a test machine in my lab, I am going to load something else on next week.... as long as I can get it working, I dont really mind if it is messy.... what do I need to type to upgrade to 5.10.... I know that there is a load of little steps
[22:05] <Sonja> how do i browse my personal files?
[22:05] <brobostigon> Indiadev_Techie: yes
[22:05] <wil_> I tried that earlier DRebellion but it didnt work :( il try again
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: nautilus..if using ubuntu
[22:06] <Veinor> Sonja: did you look under /home/sonja ?
[22:06] <wil_> yeah, didnt work again :(
[22:06] <Sonja> yeah it seems to be blank
[22:06] <Veinor> weird.
[22:06] <wil_> :(
[22:07] <Indiadev_Techie> brobostigon: i tooo own a 2mbps connection.... but i get average over 300kbps.... my downloads r really fast... Zzaaap........
[22:07] <danand_> Sonja - what does ls -l /media/xyz give you?
[22:07] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: what ???
[22:07] <Sonja> danand_:  http://pastebin.com/m7bde8067
[22:07] <brobostigon> Indiadev_Techie: 200kbps, is average, sometimes i get less sometimes 275kbps
[22:08] <wil_> sudo apt-get update just brings up a load of 404's
[22:08] <Webu> brobostigon, just to add, mostly you can see exact connection rates from you modem but it might be difficult if you have no experience accessing your modem (or your modem doesn't have anything configurable).
[22:08] <sunseeker888> Guys, I need to get a webcam. Are most webcam compatible or do i need a specific few brands?
[22:09] <Indiadev_Techie> brobostigon: i can download the whole iso of ubuntu alternate within 25 to 35 minutes.....
[22:09] <brobostigon> webu: my router has an http interface, it gives all that info, very easy to read to.
[22:10] <Sonja> danand_:  i'm trying to access my personal files, videos, etc. from my hard drive. i'm on a live session cd right now.
[22:10] <astro76> sunseeker888: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/cameras
[22:10] <Webu> brobostigon, nice, usually you can find the rates there :)
[22:10] <danielski_pl> g'mornin everyone
[22:10] <brobostigon> webu: i found them
[22:10] <danand_> Sonja - it appears root is the owner of all your files - just to quickly check try to sudo ls -l /media/xyz/home/sonja
[22:11] <belorix> hey can someome tell me how to install icon theme
[22:11] <brobostigon> webu: my router has linux on it as well
[22:11] <danand_> sonja - see if that turns up the contents of you directory
[22:12] <Webu> brobostigon, that's great, they should be exact (rate between your modem and phone center).
[22:12] <spowers> anyone ever have their firefox pointer disappear?
[22:12] <danielski_pl> is there any other cool apps like gkrellm?
[22:12] <spowers> wait cursor.
[22:12] <Sonja> danand_:  no such file or direcotry
[22:12] <brobostigon> webu: it says, just over 200kbps
[22:12] <Codemaster> Flare183: so what would i do after editing the sudoers file? is there an alternate way of reloading it except rebooting
[22:13] <freakyy> hi all. what is a good groupware server?
[22:13] <Sonja> nevermind i found my files elsewhere
[22:13] <Flare183> Codemaster: other than closing it. nope
[22:13] <Sonja> thanks
[22:13] <Webu> brobostigon, so it's all okay :) One thing to add, 200kbps is 200 kilobits per second not kilobytes per second like 200 KB/s.
[22:13] <MAXDDAR1> SOMEONE KNOW POLISH ?
[22:13] <Codemaster> Flare183: closing it?
[22:13] <astro76> !pl | MAXDDAR1