[07:28] <sauvin> My ubuntu has just decided, when I turned on the computer, that it needs to check /dev/hda2 because it's been mounted 32 times without being checked. This is unacceptable. How to change the frequency of forced checks?
[07:28] <c1|freaky> im using linux for arround 4-5 years
[07:28] <ebaad> that is why I started to think about going back to iis
[07:28] <ebaad> which is lame
[07:28] <flaccid> ebaad: you only found this error message then...
[07:28] <ebaad> i dont wanna do that
[07:28] <flaccid> ebaad: don't complain, fix it..
[07:29] <MinusSeven> It takes a bit extra to partition the hard drive too with Kubuntu, I thought it would have been a bit more automatic
[07:29] <MinusSeven> But everyone has their own tastes
[07:29] <ebaad> yes man I have been tring to fix it it has been a long time before I got to this forum
[07:30] <ebaad> I've spent few nights fixing it and tried both clients on the dyndns website
[07:30] <curtis_all4one> there was a program that came with my motherboard that regulates speed, voltage, and frequency variables, but its only windows based
[07:30] <ebaad> to get this to work
[07:30] <MinusSeven> I hope that didn't come across as negative
[07:30] <flaccid> ebaad: no need to explain
[07:30] <curtis_all4one> so i think i might need to use an ndiswrapper
[07:30] <flaccid> ebaad: #use web is what you need in the ddclient.conf
[07:30] <ebaad> ok letme add that line too
[07:31] <flaccid> ebaad: its a good idea to read the install/readme file and the documentation of sofware
[07:31] <flaccid> the answer to this problem is in the ddclient faq
[07:31] <flaccid> its also talked about here http://freshmeat.net/projects/ddclient/
[07:32] <ebaad> i'm trying to read the man pages also
[07:32] <ebaad> may be I have done something wrong in setting up the file
[07:32] <MinusSeven> How would I set a password for root?
[07:32] <flaccid> the problem is your configuration. you didn't give it the web lookup - how would it get your dynamic ip address otherwise?
[07:32] <MinusSeven> I can use the 'passwd' to assign root a password?
[07:32] <flaccid> !root | MinusSeven
[07:32] <ubotu> MinusSeven: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:32] <flaccid> MinusSeven: sudo passwd root
[07:32] <MinusSeven> ok
[07:33] <MinusSeven> I thought so
[07:33] <ebaad> I was wondering about that too, ther is no IP address mentioned in the conf file
[07:33] <flaccid> thats because you are updating a dynamic ip.. othwise there would be no need for this service if it was static..
[07:34] <kazuma_> how do i copy and image from kde-look.org :S
[07:34] <ebaad>  then y it says unable to determine ip address when I try to run it
[07:34] <kazuma_> i gave right click save image as but download.php appeared
[07:34] <MinusSeven> I've got one more question
[07:35] <MinusSeven> On  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia     it says to go to  System --> Administration --> Restricted Devices Manager
[07:35] <MinusSeven> I couldn't find that
[07:37] <flaccid> ebaad: whats your status
[07:38] <ebaad> i was checking the faq on freshmeat
[07:39] <GuHhH> is there any irc client with proxy support?
[07:39] <ebaad> and also the ddclint --help has a document so I was trying to read that
[07:39] <ebaad> may be it will give me a clue
[07:40] <flaccid> ebaad: sudo ddclient -use=web
[07:41] <ebaad> I did that and it says success to one client but failed for the other
[07:41] <ebaad> let me post the output on bin
[07:42] <flaccid> only have use=web in your .conf . ie. take out use=if, if=eth0
[07:42] <ebaad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34026/
[07:43] <ebaad> let me check
[07:43] <ebaad> i have use=if, use=web
[07:44] <ebaad> also use=if, if=ppp0
[07:44] <ebaad> and use=if, if=ddclient
[07:44] <ebaad> I dont have eth0
[07:45] <ebaad> besides i am using eth1 instead of eth0
[07:45] <flaccid> yep... your problem from the start
[07:45] <ebaad> i have two nics on board
[07:45] <flaccid> is the WAN interface on this same box?
[07:46] <ebaad> but the other one is not being used at all
[07:46] <flaccid> ie. do you have an eth* that is the external ip
[07:46] <ebaad> no this is not a router box
[07:46] <flaccid> so this box just has one LAN nic ?
[07:46] <ebaad> it has two nics one eth0 and the other eth1
[07:47] <ebaad> and i'm just using one eth1
[07:47] <flaccid> but this box does not connect to the internet right?
[07:47] <flaccid> and eth1 is a lan IP right
[07:47] <ebaad> i can connect one for WAN and the other for LAN if I use something likr ipcop box
[07:47] <flaccid> but its not atm
[07:47] <flaccid> so this is why you need to use web
[07:47] <ebaad> yes it connects to internet via a router
[07:48] <flaccid> so only have use=web in there
[07:48] <flaccid> if you have other entries, it will fail
[07:49] <ebaad> shall i write use=if, use=web or just use-web
[07:49] <flaccid> like i've said 4 time snow
[07:49] <flaccid> only use=web
[07:49] <flaccid> use=web go to the net to get your IP
[07:50] <flaccid> if=eth0 makes it update using your eth0 ip
[07:50] <ebaad> ok i have added onlu use=web
[07:50] <flaccid> and if you put in the wrong if , it can't determine obviously
[07:50] <flaccid> sweet
[07:50] <ebaad> can i paste my conf file again so u can have a look at it
[07:51] <flaccid> sure
[07:52] <ebaad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34029/ here is the link
[07:54] <flaccid> ebaad: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34030/  <-- example for one. change your password now if thats it
[07:54] <tusbomi> who can recommenda a good tool for download
[07:54] <flaccid> tusbomi: wget
[07:54] <flaccid> or kget
[07:54] <ebaad> oh ok let me look at it
[07:54] <flaccid> or anything
[07:54] <ebaad> thanks
[07:55] <flaccid> np
[07:55] <tusbomi> thanks~
[07:55] <flaccid> you didn't do take out the other use entries at all
[07:58] <ebaad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34032/ i tried the conf file and tried to restart then it says
[07:59] <ebaad> it is complaining about keyword ip= ' '
[07:59] <mildsauce> Is gutsy stable enough for everyday use yet?
[08:00] <flaccid> mildsauce: nope
[08:00] <ebaad> do i have to add the domain names that it has to update
[08:00] <mildsauce> thank you flaccid
[08:01] <flaccid> ebaad: probably
[08:01] <ebaad> ok let me add that
[08:01] <popt> what 'lock root' command do?
[08:02] <popt> is it simply lock root  account?
[08:02] <popt> or just disable root login>
[08:02] <popt> anyone could kindly explain a lit to me?
[08:02] <popt> thanks
[08:03] <flaccid> !root
[08:03] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:03] <flaccid> no such command lock. see above for details on root
[08:04] <flaccid> ebaad: get your configuration right from the ddclient -help and just make sure the other directives are untouched eg. use-
[08:04] <popt> thanks all:)
[08:04] <ebaad> ok, I'll work on that and let u know
[08:05] <ebaad> but thanks for the help so far
[08:07] <popt> also I just force to add a hostname to my ssh list permemantly
[08:08] <popt> any chance I could del it from my host?
[08:08] <popt> should I just del ~/.ssh/*?
[08:08] <popt> is it ok?
[08:09] <flaccid> why do you want to remove it from known_hosts, popt?
[08:09] <Lynoure> popt: it's ok unless you have keys there.
[08:10] <Lynoure> flaccid: common reason is dhcp... I do it a lot for names in our installation rotation
[08:15] <popt> yes, I have keys there
[08:15] <popt> can I del ~/.ssh/?
[08:16] <saylar> someone here that can help me creating a really simple script?
[08:21] <fignew> saylar: yes
[08:22] <popt> can I
[08:22] <popt>  <Lynoure>
[08:22] <tazgodx> i know this program is created for arch linux, but is it possible to get kubuntu to look like this http://kdemod.ath.cx/img/screen6_thumb.png
[08:22] <fignew> popt: yes, you can delete, you'll just lose the keys
[08:23] <mtv> can i use tar to split up a folder into dvd size tars for backup?
[08:24] <saylar> fignew, i got a script that uploads a file to rapidshare, but i need to upload several files, named something.split01 something.split02
[08:24] <fignew> mtv: man split
[08:24] <flaccid> popt: or you can edit knwon
[08:24] <flaccid> ~/.ssh/known_hosts and remove the desired entry
[08:24] <fignew> saylar: how does it upload?
[08:25] <flaccid> Lynoure: im not sure if thats a good practice..
[08:25] <flaccid> saylar: language?
[08:25] <flaccid> protocol?
[08:25] <saylar> it is a script created by the developers of rapidshare, one sec. i'll give you the link
[08:25] <saylar> perl
[08:26] <fignew> I dun know perl
[08:26] <saylar> http://images.rapidshare.com/software/rsapiresume.pl
[08:26] <saylar> well, i wanted to have a bash script that calls the rsupload script
[08:28] <saylar> to be more specific, it is a real simple bash script, that makes incremental backups of my root partition, splits them into 95MB file, encrypts them with gpg and uploads them to rs
[08:28] <saylar> i am stuck at that lsat point.
[08:28] <saylar> last
[08:28] <adydas> saylar wouldnt ftping it be a better option?
[08:28] <holycow> no
[08:28] <saylar> ftp to where? ;)
[08:28] <adydas> sorry i just read that last line so im not 100% sure whats going on
[08:29] <holycow> ftp uses plain text pass, fpt is not what you want to use for backing up your data
[08:29] <saylar> data is encrypted anyway
[08:29] <fignew> saylar: I'm not gonna lie, that's brilliant :)
[08:29] <saylar> hehe, thx.
[08:29] <holycow> i would just use bacula instead
[08:30] <saylar> i want to write a howto as soon as i'm finished with it
[08:30] <holycow> but scripting this stuff is much more fun indeed
[08:30] <flaccid> please try #perl and #bash . this is not the place for scripting help
[08:31] <saylar> ok, flaccid. let you guys know it when i'm finished.
[08:33] <popt> which command can see my pc cpuinfo and memory info?
[08:34] <popt> cat /../cpuinfo?
[08:34] <popt> I forgot:(
[08:34] <adydas> acpi
[08:34] <adydas> ?
[08:35] <adydas> cat /acpi/cpuinfo ???
[08:35] <adydas> sorry no
[08:35] <flaccid> popt: lshw , cat /proc/cpuinfo , free -m
[08:35] <adydas> proc thats it
[08:36] <popt> :) yes!!!
[08:36] <popt> you are so kind
[08:36] <flaccid> :)
[08:37] <vbgunz> anyone know what the command is to get the login window? I had a problem starting X so I said startx and it appears it wiped out the "switch user" option in my main menu :(
[08:38] <flaccid> thats because X needs to be launched from kdm to get that function, vbgunz
[08:38] <vbgunz> flaccid: ahh, how then can I launch a new gui for another user?
[08:38] <flaccid> vbgunz: so if you xorg.conf is correct, use sudo killall startx; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:39] <flaccid> vbgunz: hmm can't remmeber. its on google but
[08:39] <vbgunz> flaccid: was really afraid you might say that, I know that way but am stuck on a long backup at the moment :/
[08:39] <flaccid> its like startx -:1 or something
[08:40] <vbgunz> flaccid: ok, I'll try looking into it :)
[08:40] <flaccid> here it is, vbgunz: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html
[08:40] <Cannoli> zomg
[08:40] <Cannoli> ok
[08:40] <flaccid> its -- :1
[08:40] <Cannoli> so i just installed ntfs-3g
[08:40] <Cannoli> but i cant find it
[08:40] <Cannoli> :S
[08:41] <Myelin> Hello, how long will it take for apt-get update on a fresh install on dialup?
[08:41] <vbgunz> flaccid: you fabulous for that, thank you!
[08:41] <flaccid> np
[08:41] <Cannoli> !ntfs-3g
[08:41] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:41] <flaccid> Cannoli: why do you need to find it
[08:41] <Cannoli> so i can run it
[08:41] <flaccid> just use the instructions above
[08:42] <flaccid> you don't exactly run it
[08:42] <Cannoli> ah ic
[08:43] <vbgunz> flaccid: perfect!
[08:43] <vbgunz> flaccid: you saved my ass, thanks, my son (2) was getting a bit flippy ;)
[08:43] <flaccid> npz
[08:48] <Cannoli> flaccid: i dont know where Applications  System Tools  NTFS Configuration Tool is
[08:48] <Cannoli> :S
[08:48] <flaccid> thats probably gnome
[08:49] <Cannoli> aha
[08:49] <Cannoli> found it
[08:49] <Cannoli> :D
[08:49] <flaccid> i express the problems with duplication of articles, the mess of ubuntu doco and no dedicated kubuntu doco, but the doco team are quite closed-minded and want to keep with an inefficient wiki
[08:51] <Cannoli> ok so i klik the NTFS Config tool
[08:51] <Cannoli> but bothing happens
[08:51] <Cannoli> :(
[08:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Amarok 1.4.7 seems to work fine here...
[08:51] <ico> how to set up a loco team?
[08:52] <ico> i clicked on start team
[08:52] <ico> on loco site
[08:52] <ico> but i don't understand what does it means, nothing happens
[08:52] <ico> pls
[08:52] <flaccid> someone will answer if they can help.
[08:53] <Cannoli> flaccid can u help me with my prob :S
[08:54] <Cannoli> personally i think it didnt install properly
[08:54] <Cannoli> cause in the system menu
[08:54] <Cannoli> theres no icon beside the name
[08:55] <Cannoli> ah ic
[08:55] <Cannoli> i ran it from konsole
[08:55] <Cannoli> and it work
[08:55] <Cannoli> worked :)
[08:56] <Cannoli> !mount point
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount point - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <ico> @flaccid ok
[08:56] <flaccid> cool
[08:57] <Cannoli> flaccid: whats a mount directory?
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> !fstab | Cannoli
[08:57] <ubotu> Cannoli: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: That should clarify the basics
[08:58] <Cannoli> aww but this requires fstab
[08:58] <Cannoli> like i just dled ntfsconfig
[08:58] <Cannoli> and im trying tht cause apperently its the easiest
[08:58] <Cannoli> but i dont know wht a  mount point is
[08:58] <Cannoli> :(
[08:58] <flaccid> the mount point is anywhere you want
[08:59] <flaccid> eg. /mnt/mynewdrive
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Every drives get's mounted to an existing folder, that's the mount point
[08:59] <Cannoli> ok
[08:59] <Cannoli> so i can mount it anywhere i want?>
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Usually those are in /media or /mnt
[08:59] <Cannoli> yea i was gonna do /media/C
[08:59] <Cannoli> is tht ok?
[08:59] <flaccid> Cannoli: yep anywhere
[09:00] <flaccid> but /media or /mnt is what you want
[09:00] <flaccid> oops soz
[09:00] <progreSSive> hi ALL
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Well, C is really windowish though... My drive formerly known as c:\ gets mounted to /mnt/windows, for instance
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi progreSSive
[09:01] <Cannoli> i keep getting this error
[09:01] <Cannoli> /media/Local Disk contains an invalid caracter.
[09:01] <Cannoli> you must choose a name, not a directory.
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Does the folder you want to mount your drive to exist?
[09:01] <Cannoli> i dont know :(
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: ls -l /media
[09:02] <Cannoli> yep
[09:02] <Cannoli> exists
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: So basically it is "sudo mount /<device> /<mountpoint>
[09:03] <Cannoli> oops
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: You probably need some extra options though, which I do not know from the top of my head
[09:03] <Cannoli> i got it
[09:03] <Cannoli> its ok
[09:03] <Cannoli> thanx
[09:03] <Cannoli> i got it
[09:03] <Cannoli> :)
[09:04] <djdarkman__> is anyone here who knows how to install mythtv?
[09:04] <MilhousePunkRock> djdarkman__: "sudo apt-get install mythtv" not working?
[09:04] <djdarkman__> nope
[09:04] <djdarkman__> has problems with mysql server
[09:05] <djdarkman__> somehow a previous install broke and ever since
[09:05] <djdarkman__> it doesn`t ask for mysql user and pw
[09:05] <djdarkman__> and just gives me this error
[09:05] <djdarkman__> Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) at -e line 5, <> line 1.
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> djdarkman__: Try installing what is broken with --purge
[09:05] <djdarkman__> strange that (using password: NO)
[09:06] <djdarkman__> you mean uninstall don`t you?
[09:06] <djdarkman__> that didn`t purge everything
[09:06] <djdarkman__> how can I make the install ask for my password again?
[09:07] <MilhousePunkRock> djdarkman__: Right, uninstalling... Maybe you need to install it again and than uninstall with --purge
[09:07] <MilhousePunkRock> djdarkman__: What version of Kubuntu do you run?
[09:07] <djdarkman__> but it can`t install
[09:07] <djdarkman__> feisty
[09:07] <flaccid> djdarkman__: thats a bug which they having trying to fix for a long time now
[09:08] <djdarkman__> flaccid: is there a workaround?
[09:08] <flaccid> mythtv package has several issues. search launchpad
[09:08] <flaccid> !bugs
[09:08] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:08] <ico> anyone knows about creating loco teams
[09:10] <djdarkman__> ico: why not search on wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> djdarkman__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[09:12] <ico> djdarkman i searched over, and there is a link, but after clicking join a team it reverts me to the same page, as nothing happened
[09:12] <Cannoli> ok
[09:12] <Cannoli> so how do i unmount drives?
[09:12] <Cannoli> !unmout
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: sudo umount /<mountpoint>
[09:13] <Cannoli> ok
[09:13] <Cannoli> how do i become root?
[09:13] <Cannoli> :S
[09:13] <Cannoli> or log in as root
[09:13] <Cannoli> ?
[09:13] <dacorr> su
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: sudo is good enough fo you
[09:13] <saylar> sudo su if you really need to
[09:14] <saylar> fignew_, script is done and running right now. will see how it does ;)
[09:14] <fignew_> sweet
[09:15] <Cannoli> If you want to unmount you should be root
[09:15] <Cannoli> wht does tht mean?
[09:15] <Cannoli> like how can i become root?
[09:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: I told you the command, scroll up a bit.
[09:15] <Cannoli> oh
[09:16] <Cannoli> srry
[09:16] <Cannoli> got it
[09:16] <Cannoli> :)
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Every task that you need to be root for can be done with prefixing sudo to the command
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> !sudo | Cannoli
[09:16] <ubotu> Cannoli: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:16] <flaccid> !root
[09:16] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:16] <Cannoli> :|
[09:16] <Cannoli> so u cant get the root password?
[09:16] <Cannoli> ever?
[09:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: There is no root password
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Because there is no user root
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: You have a lot of reading to do...
[09:17] <Cannoli> yes i do
[09:17] <Cannoli> XD
[09:18] <dacorr> the root password was set automatically on my install but i could change it in the admin user and groups bit
[09:18] <flaccid> should read the links pasted first :)
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning Hobbsee!
[09:19] <BAsh`> can i use adept to verify a system?
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> BAsh`: Verify a system? As in everything is alright?
[09:19] <BAsh`> with urpmi i know you can md5 all system files and check for corruption and so on
[09:20] <Hobbsee> hi MilhousePunkRock!
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> BAsh`: I guess apt checks the md5 sum of everything it downloads before it installs
[09:20] <BAsh`> individually that is and compare them to what is in the package
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> At least I would hope so...
[09:20] <BAsh`> well of course but with the pakages already installedf
[09:21] <dacorr> anyone tried the nvidia drivers that are in synaptic?
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> BAsh`: The would not have been installed if they were corrupted, I guess...
[09:22] <BAsh`> yeah but i think my hard drive is a bit dodgey and i would like to check to make sure nothing has stuffed up
[09:23] <ico> i have a problem running beryl on kubuntu 7.04. when i start beryl manager a cube is completely white. i installed xorg propertiarty ati driver for my 9600 pro and after restart it crashes so i uninstalled it. when i installed kubuntu for first time it worked perfectly.
[09:23] <ico> i don't have a driver installed now
[09:23] <flaccid> ico: #ubuntu-effects , #beryl
[09:23] <hangthedj> ico: wiki.beryl-project.org
[09:23] <ico> tnx
[09:24] <flaccid> that wiki has been down for ages hang
[09:24] <flaccid> anyway im off
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> ico: Maybe it's time to step up to compiz-fusion?
[09:25] <dacorr> ico try envy for your ati its website will tell you if it supports your card
[09:25] <ico> i'll try it, i'm tired of fighting with beryl
[09:25] <ico> i downloaded driver
[09:25] <ico> for my graphic card
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> ico: Be prepared for more fighting anyway...
[09:25] <flaccid> yeah i got beryl set perfect, but get one known error. quite ghey....
[09:25] <dacorr> api mismatch error with the downloaded driver?
[09:26] <dotz> why does my kopete keep saying couldn't send message to XXXXX when i didn't do anything? it happen randomly all the time
[09:26] <dotz> its irritating with the pop out
[09:27] <kraut> moin
[09:33] <Cannoli> dang
[09:33] <Cannoli> im getting some weird error
[09:33] <Cannoli> !pastebin
[09:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:34] <Cannoli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34034/ << thts the error -_-
[09:37] <echo-MaTX> hey all
[09:37] <Cannoli> hiya echo
[09:37] <Cannoli> !ntfs-3g
[09:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:39] <Riddell> MilhousePunkRock: thanks
[09:39] <djdarkman__> myhtv is complaining that the backend is not running is there an elegant way to make is start with mythtv viewer or just manual?
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Note that I have just played one file, as I run Kubuntu on my laptop only (The desktop will get it's dose of humanity in October though), and I hardly use Amarok on the laptop...
[09:41] <Cannoli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34034/ << i keep getting that error
[09:41] <Cannoli> -_-
[09:41] <djdarkman__> never mind
[09:47] <mtv> after i have used the command "split" how do i rejoin the files?
[09:47] <vbgunz> I did this on gnome a while back. how do go to one computer on my network, login, but actually login to another account on another computer? I remember it didn't use VNC, it was something else. NFS or something like that I think, am I hot?
[09:49] <NickPresta> mtv, perhaps `paste`?
[09:51] <Kein> >_<
[09:51] <NickPresta> !ask | Kein
[09:51] <ubotu> Kein: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:51] <vbgunz> I would really like to login in on one computer but actually log into an account on another computer in the same LAN. anyone have any ideas, how this is done?
[09:52] <Kein> Alright, I've got everything I need to set up a double boot.  I know someone already said it, but how do I modify the GRUB that comes with Kubuntu to do so?
[09:52] <NickPresta> Kein, you already have Windows installed or you're planning on installing Windows after Kubuntu?
[09:53] <Kein> Latter.
[09:53] <Kein> Had to format my HD three times now. =(
[09:53] <Kein> Once was because the partitioner really screwed up.
[09:53] <Kein> Second was because Kubuntu screwed up(I know why, my fault, but I did fix it).
[09:54] <kazuma__> how do i move a file from my desktop to another folder with security?
[09:54] <Kein> Third time was so I could set a NTFS partition.
[09:54] <NickPresta> Kein, am I correct in assuming you have a Kubuntu LiveCD?
[09:54] <Kein> Yep.
[09:54] <Kein> 6.06 because Feisty Fawn didn't work thanks to ATI.
[09:55] <Kein> See, normally I wouldn't bother with reinstalling XP, but I'm a GM for a P&P RP using a program that uses Direct3D.
[09:55] <NickPresta> Kein, that is fine. Are you also comfortable with using the command line when guided?
[09:55] <Kein> I did -not- expect the NTFS partition to get raped.
[09:55] <Kein> Yeah.
[09:55] <Kein> In all honesty, I'm getting more comfortable with the command line than a GUI.
[09:55] <Kein> But that's just me.
[09:56] <NickPresta> Kein, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:57] <Kein> Hmm?
[09:57] <NickPresta> Kein, I suggest the Quick Start method.
[09:57] <Kein> Got ya.
[09:57] <Kein> Hmm.
[09:57] <Kein> Makes sense.
[09:58] <Kein> Alright, I'll save it.
[09:58] <NickPresta> Kein, it's rather painless. I've had to do it once or twice. :)
[09:58] <kazuma__> how do i change permissions from a folder?
[09:58] <Kein> I've got another comp just in case I forget.
[09:58] <kazuma__> can anyone help me?
[09:59] <NickPresta> kazuma__, `chmod`, `chgrp`, `chown`. Use the man pages for more information
[09:59] <kazuma__> thanks
[10:00] <hamadooo> i can't play avi files
[10:00] <NickPresta> !codecs | hamadooo
[10:00] <ubotu> hamadooo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:00] <Kein> You have the codecs, right?
[10:00] <hamadooo> ok
[10:00] <hamadooo> i downloaded it yes
[10:01] <Kein> Hmm.  Though it's not really an important question, any way to make Konversation run Firefox for clicked links instead of Konqueror?
[10:03] <NickPresta> Kein, /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser is symlinked to a browser in /usr/bin/path. Change this from /usr/bin/konqueror to /usr/bin/firefox or whatever you want.
[10:03] <Kein> Got you.  Thanks.
[10:04] <NickPresta> Kein, this should do it: sudo update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox
[10:05] <Kein> Thanks.
[10:06] <praecox> hello guys. is it possible to restrict some system users in Kubuntu so they can log in using passwords, only RSA keys?
[10:07] <praecox> can't*
[10:09] <kazuma__> hi
[10:09] <kazuma__> i have this error
[10:09] <kazuma__> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0660, should be 0440
[10:09] <kazuma__> what should i do?
[10:09] <praecox> kazuma__, sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[10:09] <Kein> ...XD
[10:09] <Kein> Was it wrong of me to be able to identify the band here immediately?
[10:09] <Kein> http://winehq.org/images/shots/full/wine_13.png
[10:10] <kazuma__> kazuma@kazumalap:~$ sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[10:10] <kazuma__> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0660, should be 0440
[10:10] <kazuma__> still the problem friend check
[10:11] <praecox> kazuma__, check what it's permission. ls -lad /etc/sudoers
[10:11] <NickPresta> kazuma__, perhaps try using the LiveCD to mount your partition and change the permissions from the LiveCD? I don't know if there is an easier way.
[10:12] <echo-MaTX> ctr+alt+f5   ... login as root
[10:12] <praecox> ?
[10:13] <kazuma__> -rw-rw---- 1 kazuma root 403 2007-08-16 10:45 /etc/sudoers
[10:13] <kazuma__> kazuma@kazumalap:~$
[10:13] <kazuma__> that's what appeared friend
[10:14] <praecox> kazuma__, you could try 'sudo su -' and then chmod, as described earlier. but I see no reason why would this not work.
[10:14] <kazuma__> sudo su
[10:14] <kazuma__> -rw-rw---- 1 kazuma root 403 2007-08-16 10:45 /etc/sudoers
[10:14] <kazuma__> wait
[10:15] <Kein> Hmm... damn.  Can't remember the exact syntax for getting the necessary updates for my comp. =/
[10:15] <kazuma__> same mistake friend
[10:15] <NickPresta> Kein, `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[10:16] <Kein> That's it.
[10:17] <Kein> huh.  IIRC, it installed GCC on it, which I needed to compile a few programs from source.
[10:17] <NickPresta> Kein, The 'build-essential`
[10:17] <NickPresta> Kein, package is what you want
[10:18] <Kein> Yeah.
[10:18] <Kein> Thanks.
[10:18] <praecox> kazuma__, weird. you could try su - as well.
[10:18] <praecox> kazuma__, I believe chmod restriction is due to use of sudo command.
[10:18] <praecox> kazuma__, but I'm guessing.
[10:18] <Kein> What would be the syntax?  Sorry about this, but I'm a little new to linux.
[10:19] <praecox> Kein, apt-get install build-essential
[10:19] <Kein> Got you.
[10:19] <praecox> Kein, and if you're not root, sudo first. I mean: sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[10:19] <NickPresta> Kein, `sudo apt-get install PACKAGE`. To search, `apt-cache search TERM`. Use `man apt-get` or `apt-get --help` for more information
[10:20] <Kein> Thanks.
[10:20] <kazuma__> help
[10:20] <kazuma__> i found something
[10:20] <kazuma__> about some called visudo
[10:21] <kazuma__> but i don't know how to use it
[10:21] <praecox> kazuma__, did you try with su?
[10:23] <kazuma__> yeah
[10:23] <kazuma__> the same error
[10:29] <praecox> kazuma__, so I believe you need to boot from livecd, as NickPresta advised you.
[10:29] <kazuma__> and how do i use it?
[10:30] <praecox> simply boot from livecd, open terminal/console, mount your disk somewhere and chmod that file.
[10:31] <phimic> hi all
[10:31] <phimic> is there a way to get all dependencies of a debian package?
[10:33] <kazuma__> how is that of mounting the disk?
[10:33] <vbgunz> anyone know how to restart the sound server?
[10:38] <echo-MaTX> vbgunz:        /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[10:38] <[ifr0g] > sudo before that..
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> phimic: I think GDebi takes care of that... Just right click on the .deb and choose "Open with GDebi package manager"
[10:39] <echo-MaTX> ifr0g yes...  ;-)
[10:39] <phimic> MilhousePunkRock: thanks for the hint
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> phimic: There is a cli command for that too, but i would have to look it up
[10:41] <ledemente> Hey all.
[10:41] <ledemente> Regarding Kopete, specifically with MSN, how do I stop those annoying "person is online" messages that popup on the screen?
[10:42] <ledemente> I'd prefer if Kopete just flashed when someone was talking to me.
[10:42] <phimic> MilhousePunkRock: i got it, i uses synaptic with preferences -> dependencies
[10:43] <ledemente> Oh, I think I just worked it out.
[10:43] <MilhousePunkRock> ledemente: You can set that manually for every contact
[10:44] <ledemente> I just found the menu option for Notifications. -___-
[10:44] <kazuma_> yeeah
[10:44] <kazuma_> problem fixed
[10:44] <kazuma_> i let the way to fix it if someone has the same problem
[10:44] <kazuma_> go to recovery mode
[10:45] <kazuma_> and type chown root:root /etc/sudoers
[10:45] <kazuma_> then
[10:45] <kazuma_> chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[10:45] <kazuma_> then reboot
[10:45] <kazuma_> and all fixed
[10:45] <MilhousePunkRock> kazuma_: You could have probably done that from a kdesu konqueror as well...
[10:46] <kazuma_> yeah?
[10:46] <praecox> might be.
[10:46] <kazuma_> well i'm new what did you spect dude:P
[10:46] <MilhousePunkRock> kazuma_: Unless the initial problem was that you could not use sudo, of course
[10:47] <kazuma_> exactly
[10:47] <kazuma_> but that's the way i fixed it
[10:47] <kazuma_> if someday you'll use it
[10:47] <pete-ubuntu> Has anyone got a few minutes to help me with a display issue?
[10:47] <kazuma_> you'll have it at hand :P
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> recovery mode is pretty powerful...
[10:47] <kevin__> what do i install to play wmv?
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> pete-ubuntu: What's the matter
[10:48] <praecox> kevin__, you could try with gmplayer.
[10:48] <MilhousePunkRock> kevin__: win32-codecs, probably...
[10:48] <MilhousePunkRock> !codecs | kevin__
[10:48] <ubotu> kevin__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <tuxplorer> There is no Component chooser in KDE Components in feisty fawn :( This is too bad.. How do i change the default browser integration of kopete?
[10:49] <tuxplorer> i want all links on kopete to open in FF
[10:50] <pete-ubuntu> I have an I have a pc with an AMD 64 FX2 processor and a GeForce 6600GT SLI graphics card. I can install Fedora any version on it but every version of Ubuntu I have tried to install onto it including Gutsy F3 I get a blank screen after going through the boot up. I know ubuntu is working cause I can do an alt F2 and see the login screen
[10:51] <MilhousePunkRock> !nvidia
[10:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:52] <MilhousePunkRock> pete-ubuntu: That might help you, my guess is that you need the propietary nvidia driver
[10:53] <praecox> pete-ubuntu, if you have any graphic card on your motherboard, you could also try to plug your monitor to it for installation.
[10:53] <pete-ubuntu> I have gone through the process of installing the restricted drivers etc and also tried to change the driver to the vesa. Whatever I do and I have done a lot with each version of Ubuntu, I am unable to get it to work
[10:54] <pete-ubuntu> I have also tried that
[10:54] <MilhousePunkRock> pete-ubuntu: Did you try the alternative install CD as well?
[10:54] <praecox> pete-ubuntu, and one more thing - when this blank screen appears?
[10:55] <pete-ubuntu> I have not because I do not want to try and install it and find it will not worhk then have to re-install everything I already have on the pc, if you get my drift
[10:55] <pete-ubuntu> the blank screen appears after the livecd has installed onto ram
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> pete-ubuntu: Basically it should work, it is just the question of how to make it work... I assume that you have tried different video modes from the boot menu of th live CD?
[10:56] <pete-ubuntu> everything is working except X
[10:56] <pete-ubuntu> yes gone through all sorts of things
[10:56] <Kein> ...O_o
[10:57] <Kein> Is it just me or does synaptic blow adept out of the water?
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> pete-ubuntu: You might as well log into the text console and try to reconfigure the x server
[10:57] <praecox> pete-ubuntu, well, maybe livecd doesn't support your video card? why don't you simply install it with alternate install CD as MilhousePunkRock mentioned?
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Kein: apt-get owns them all :)
[10:57] <pete-ubuntu> I have done that with every version of Ubuntu trust me
[10:58] <Kein> of course, lololol
[10:58] <pete-ubuntu> I have also tried to install a full version of Ubuntu and then installed the nvidia driver also same result
[10:59] <praecox> pete-ubuntu, with all respect, I don't believe in what you're saying. have you tried envy to install appropriate drivers?
[10:59] <praecox> I know it's not very 'cool way' of doing this. but it simply works in some circumstances.
[10:59] <pete-ubuntu> could it be something to do with SLI? I have two pc's and this one is also AMD 64 but without an SLI card only a 7700 nividia and ubuntu works fine
[10:59] <afaith> hello there people! i've just installed gizmo project and i don't have a person that is willing to help me testing it. anyone here ?
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> !sli
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: Can you give a little more detail? Basically I have nothing better to do right now...
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> pete-ubuntu: That could be, but I am pretty sure there is a solution
[11:01] <afaith> MilhousePunkRock: have you ever heard about the open source VoIP software called Gizmo Project ?
[11:01] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: No
[11:01] <praecox> pete-ubuntu, have you tried googling for your problem? http://www.google.pl/search?q=graphic+card+sli+blank+screen
[11:01] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: Wait, I have, once I looked up something about Skype
[11:01] <afaith> MilhousePunkRock: have a look here : http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[11:01] <praecox> pete-ubuntu, or +ubuntu, however.
[11:01] <MilhousePunkRock> praecox: That queriy is missing either linux or ubuntu though
[11:02] <praecox> MilhousePunkRock, right, but might give some general view.
[11:02] <afaith> MilhousePunkRock: gizmo does the same as skype, but it' OSS
[11:02] <afaith> !gizmo
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <afaith> !gizmo-project
[11:02] <praecox> MilhousePunkRock, that's why I added +ubuntu later.
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo-project - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <praecox> !your-ass
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your-ass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <praecox> quite funny.
[11:03] <pete-ubuntu> thanks for your time guys
[11:03] <Tabmows> where is the option of changing the behaviour so you cannot see applications on other desktops?
[11:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Tabmows: In kicker?
[11:03] <afaith> MilhousePunkRock: have you seen the webpage ?
[11:03] <Tabmows> MilhousePunkRock, never mind, found it
[11:04] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: Just looking it up, I am not on my Kubuntu system right now but my Gentoo machine
[11:04] <Lynoure> flaccid: sorry about the huge delay. I don't advocate removing stuff from knownhosts without a good reason. I remove them because I just installed a new server that got d105 as it's name, so I know really surely that the old key no longer matches.
[11:05] <afaith> of :( MilhousePunkRock : when you will be able to help me, just ... say my name :)
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: Looks like it is not in Gentoo's "repository equivalent", so I won't be able to help you with that...
[11:07] <afaith> MilhousePunkRock: ok :( maybe when you'll go to your kubuntu running machine you will be kind to help me
[11:08] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: I just shut that down a few minutes ago... Since I am such a nice guy, I will boot it up again... I don't know if the mic is working there, but I might as well try the USB soundcard...
[11:09] <afaith> MilhousePunkRock: i will remain grateful to you
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: In the long view, I am stuck with evil closed source stuff like ICQ or Skype, because all my buddies are non-geeks and I can not make them switch to the good side
[11:11] <afaith> MilhousePunkRock: imho, you dont have to be a geek to think smart
[11:12] <afaith> i mean, if you use Skype or ICQ, you can easily create an account to one of those OS services like google, jabber or something like this. maybe they stick to those closed source programs because they are more confortable with them. on the other hand, software developers offer much better support for windows closed source programs
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: That's true, but they just don't care... "I have always used that, so why should I switch" and so on...
[11:13] <afaith> i know ...
[11:14] <user17> hii
[11:15] <user17> hii
[11:16] <user17__> hii
[11:17] <echo-MaTX> hi user
[11:19] <urilock> hey
[11:20] <kaminix|shindeir> How do I shape my connection so my download won't be choked by my upload (believe that just happened, ADSL btw)?
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: Are you referring to a certain application/protocol?
[11:22] <kaminix> kaminix: When I limited the upload in Ktorrent everything suddenly went smoothly. I want to do that on my whole system.
[11:23] <SlimeyPe1e> looks like you want to do some traffic shaping
[11:23] <kaminix> Yep, but how?
[11:23] <SlimeyPe1e> I've never done it myself but there's a comprehensive howto at http://lartc.org/lartc.html
[11:24] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: It is unlikely that you will max out your upstream with anything else than torrent though, and it is essential to limit the upstream in any bittorent application to about 80% of what your line is capable of...
[11:24] <kaminix> Thanks, I'll look it up.
[11:24] <kaminix> Can my download choke my upload?
[11:24] <Kein> No.
[11:24] <Kein> Not to my knowledge, anyways.
[11:25] <kaminix> Okay. :)
[11:25] <urilock> hey
[11:25] <urilock> i finally got compiz working
[11:25] <urilock> and my rotation is that of a square
[11:25] <urilock> i want it to be a cube
[11:25] <urilock> any help?
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: You will get better and more stable download rates if you limit your upload...
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> urilock: #ubuntu-effects or #compiz
[11:26] <kaminix> If I set two PCs to do maximum of 80% of what the connection is capable of, will I still be safe from time outs?
[11:26] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: I noticed :)
[11:27] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: No, you need to distribute that 80% between both PCs... That's where traffic shaping comes into play...
[11:28] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: You can just dedicate one of the PCs to Bittorrent and set the 80% there and you will be fine
[11:28] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: Then I need to shape the router?
[11:28] <Kein> XD
[11:28] <Kein> kaminix: try taking the easy way out.
[11:28] <Kein> 40% + 40%
[11:28] <kaminix> NO WAY :P
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: If you really have to run torrent on both PCs, shaping would be done by the router. If your router can do it...
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Kein: Not the smartest idea
[11:29] <Kein> =(
[11:29] <kaminix> Okay. Well, I'll solve it somehow. Thanks, now I know the problem anyway. :P
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: The easiest solution is just to use only one PC for bittorrent...
[11:31] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: KTorrent has a nice WebUI which you can use to maintain your torrents in a webbrowser
[11:32] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: I'm afraid my sister would be sort of pissed if I told her she must use my laptop for torrents. Anyway, I don't think she does much torrenting anyway.
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: Put the folder for ktorrent in a NFS share and you are set
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: The WebUI is easy...
[11:33] <kaminix> Well. I'll solve it someway. Thanks. :)
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: Maybe you can even use your router for torrenting. ;) If so, it can easily handle traffic shaping to, since it is most likely a linux box in that case
[11:35] <afaith> who is asking for help with traffic shaping ?
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> afaith: kaminix is...  Will what I write in fstab take place on boot or when I plug the device in (have an usb-disk I want to always have mounted on /media/disk-1 due to symlinks)
[11:59] <afaith> kaminix: sorry, i've been away for a couple of minutes
[11:59] <afaith> kaminix: do you need traffic shaping for you (home user) or a network ?
[12:00] <trekdanne>
[12:00] <JohnFlux> I can't reply to comments on digg :-)
[12:00] <Myelin> Hello, how do i install xmms player, apt-get install returns "could'nt find xmms"! Thanks.
[12:00] <JohnFlux> Not necessarily a bad thing, but uh..  konqueror doesn't seem to like it heh
[12:00] <JohnFlux> Myelin: apt-cache search xmms
[12:00] <JohnFlux> Myelin: or use the pretty gui :)
[12:00] <kaminix> afaith:  It's okay, I decided traffic shaping won't help me at all since i can't do it on my entire network.
[12:01] <JohnFlux> Myelin: hmm, xmms is there.  use the gui package manager to enable repositories
[12:01] <JohnFlux> !repos
[12:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:01] <JohnFlux> Myelin: ^^
[12:01] <kaminix> afaith: I'll see if my router can have max speeds set.
[12:01] <JohnFlux> Myelin: but amarok or juk is better :-)
[12:01] <JohnFlux> personally I like juk
[12:02] <afaith> kaminix: can you tell me more about your problem ? it's not the first time i've helped a person that had the same problem as you have
[12:02] <afaith> let's say that i earn a few bucks every month by setting up servers (firewalls, traffic shaping and other network related services)
Thanks, i am trying all your instructions right now. I am having problems with starting amarok, it does not start!
[12:03] <echo-MaTX> traffic shaping
[12:03] <kaminix> afaith: Not much more to say. When it uploads to fast the download crashes all together, timeouts and stuff.
[12:06] <biosword_> ciao a tutti
[12:06] <echo-MaTX> say... afaith do you know where can i get good HOTO or somethig about Traffic control, iptables?  for the newbie :-p of course
[12:07] <biosword_> it? please!
[12:07] <dylan_> hi
[12:07] <echo-MaTX> hi
[12:07] <afaith> echo-MaTX: let me do a little google job
[12:08] <afaith> kaminix: i believe trafic shaping it's what you need. but it also might be  another problem (hardware, isp, etc.)
[12:08] <echo-MaTX> ...
[12:08] <ubuntu__> h'
[12:08] <kaminix> afaith: But I can't shape my router :(
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: did you ever set up ktorrent correctly? max number of connections and such?
[12:09] <OutsiderNZ> Hey, could anyone help me install g++?
[12:09] <ubuntu__> hi
[12:09] <OutsiderNZ> hello
[12:10] <jussi01> OutsiderNZ: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:10] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: I set the max upload now. The other settings are pretty much trial and error though (mostly error).
[12:11] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: check the wiki of azureus, they have an extensive and comprehensive guide for all the parameters according to your line type
[12:11] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: Thanks. You mean the Good Settings page on their wiki? Seen it but haven't used it.
[12:12] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: you should, will cure most of your problems
[12:12] <OutsiderNZ> thank you Jussi01
[12:12] <kaminix> K, I'll look into it. :)
[12:13] <jussi01> OutsiderNZ: :)
[12:14] <OutsiderNZ> jussi01, the shell seems to have a habbit of freezing when I type that in oO
[12:15] <OutsiderNZ> come up to input password, then freezes
[12:16] <jussi01> OutsiderNZ: what happens when you put the passord in and press enter
[12:16] <jussi01> ?
[12:16] <OutsiderNZ> when i go to put in password, it just freezes up
[12:16] <OutsiderNZ> just the Konsole
[12:16] <OutsiderNZ> nothing else
[12:16] <OutsiderNZ> and I can quit out of it find
[12:16] <OutsiderNZ> fine*
[12:16] <jussi01> (it should type the password, you should just see the prompt, then enter will make it go again)
[12:17] <jussi01> so when typing the password it should be blank
[12:17] <OutsiderNZ> i see
[12:17] <OutsiderNZ> ok, just a sec
[12:18] <OutsiderNZ> thank you, working now :D
[12:18] <OutsiderNZ> how long does it take to get used to linux commands?
[12:18] <jussi01> OutsiderNZ: hehe, that confuses a lot of people
[12:18] <jussi01> OutsiderNZ: depends, but it shouldnt take long...
[12:19] <OutsiderNZ> ok, well, thank you for the help :D
[12:19] <jussi01> OutsiderNZ: you could of course have done that in synaptic... but im lazy...
[12:19] <jussi01> OutsiderNZ: no probs, btw where in NZ are you? (Im an aussie)
[12:19] <OutsiderNZ> synaptic?
[12:19] <OutsiderNZ> welly :D
[12:20] <echo-MaTX> synaptic manager
[12:20] <OutsiderNZ> i see
[12:20] <OutsiderNZ> Im in Welly Jussi
[12:20] <jussi01> cool
[12:20] <jussi01> !info synaptic
[12:20] <OutsiderNZ> where are you in aussie?
[12:20] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 1279 kB, installed size 5836 kB
[12:20] <echo-MaTX> packages manager ;-)
[12:21] <OutsiderNZ> ahh i see
[12:21] <OutsiderNZ> thanks ^^
[12:21] <jussi01> OutsiderNZ: I said I am an aussie, not in oz atm... in im finland :)
[12:21] <alexandros> OutsiderNZ: is NZ a good place to live in ?  :)
[12:21] <OutsiderNZ> cool
[12:21] <OutsiderNZ> of course its a great place :D
[12:22] <alexandros> OutsiderNZ: Ive heard it gots lots of green, clean air, clean water , its like a little paradise
[12:22] <OutsiderNZ> a bit of that, but when you get to auckland, blah
[12:22] <jussi01> lol
[12:22] <jussi01> ok, now back to support...
[12:23] <Myelin> Hello, <JohnFlux> thanks for the link about repositories, i enabled them and xmms now appears.
[12:23] <alexandros> :)
[12:23] <OutsiderNZ> ^^
[12:23] <echo-MaTX> finland.... mm... alway want to see helsinki
[12:23] <JohnFlux> Myelin: ah good :)
[12:23] <Myelin> Another question, i have installed nvidia settings, but how do i starts it?
[12:23] <Myelin> :)
[12:24] <JohnFlux> Myelin: alt+f2  then nvidia-settings
[12:24] <JohnFlux> Myelin: should be on the menu somewhere, but this way works too )
[12:24] <JohnFlux> :)
[12:24] <Myelin> Thanks.
[12:25] <Myelin> It worked.
[12:25] <JohnFlux> Myelin: check out the music player juk  btw
[12:26] <Myelin> Ok, i will.
[12:26] <ubuntu__> hello
[12:27] <echo-MaTX> Myelin: nvidia settings should be in the system tools menu list
[12:42] <alfatau> hello, do you know a working method to mount an ftp server as a local directory?
[12:48] <[ifr0g] > alfatau, google for LUFS ! :)
[12:49] <[ifr0g] > !lufs
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lufs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <afaith> kaminix: check this out : http://lartc.org/
[12:50] <afaith> !traffic shaping
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about traffic shaping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <afaith> !htb
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <afaith> !kernel
[12:50] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:50] <chris_____> hey all
[12:50] <[ifr0g] > !tc
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <[ifr0g] > !ts
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <afaith> kaminix: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+bandwidth+shaping&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a this too
[12:51] <chris_____> I'm having trouble logging on as root in kubuntu - neither my admin password or no password works - is there a set password in kubuntu?
[12:51] <kaminix> afaith: I download it via bazaar?
[12:52] <afaith> kaminix: whats bazaar ?
[12:52] <kaminix> Like svn.
[12:53] <yamal> !root | chris_____
[12:53] <ubotu> chris_____: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:53] <afaith> kaminix: don't know, i've never used bazaar
[12:53] <afaith> !bazaar
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bazaar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <afaith> !svn
[12:54] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[12:54] <afaith> !cvs
[12:54] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[12:54] <chris_____> ubotu: ok how do you access sudo through the GUI?
[12:55] <kaminix> chris_____: kdusu
[12:55] <kaminix> chris_____: kdesu
[12:55] <chris_____> thanks yamal - any idea how I access sude via the gui?
[12:56] <chris_____> er, ok - where is kdesu?
[12:56] <yamal> !kdesu
[12:56] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:56] <yamal> alt + f2 or in a terminal
[12:57] <chris_____> ok cool - do you type just kdesu or kdesu Kate for example?
[12:57] <yamal> with the command so 'kdesu kate' or similar
[12:57] <chris_____> ok great thanks!
[12:58] <chris_____> cheers guys
[12:59] <fraction> whats the difference between "eth:0" and "eth0:avah" ? tyty :)
[01:02] <alexandros> um.... I "accidentaly" uninstalled update-notifier. now I installed it back but the update-notifier icon doesn't show on the bottom-right corner. any ideas?
[01:02] <yamal> fraction: eth0:something indicates an alias
[01:03] <yamal> so multiple addresses can live on a single interface etc
[01:03] <fraction> ok.. thanks.. probably something that "just" happened, trying to configure my wireless card but that seems impossible
[01:05] <fkm> For what do I need libpoppler1, libpoppler1-qt and poppler-utils?
[01:05] <yamal> !avahi
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <fkm> !poppler
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poppler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <fkm> !libpoppler
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libpoppler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <fkm> !libpoppler1
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libpoppler1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <fkm> :(
[01:06] <yamal> !info libpoppler1 | fkm
[01:06] <ubotu> fkm: libpoppler1: PDF rendering library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.4-0ubuntu8.1 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[01:06] <echo-MaTX> iptables
[01:06] <fkm> Ah, nice B) Thank you, yamal!
[01:06] <echo-MaTX> sry
[01:25] <mecannotread> guys  i cant play dvd on my kubuntu but i got all the codecs including libdvdcss2
[01:27] <tarek_> hi i have a 64 Bit laptop and i wanted to install a 32Bit software
[01:28] <tarek_> and i get the following answer:
[01:28] <tarek_> ./install: 13: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[01:37] <craig> hi all I'm wanting to setup a linux box as a media centre... am running kubuntu... any suggestions as to how I can set up a kick arse system
[01:41] <lopin> !sound
[01:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:41] <aguitel_> how to setup my adsl modem speedstream 4060 ?
[01:44] <tuxplorer> aguitel_: pppoe
[01:44] <tuxplorer> pppoeconf is there.. a commandline tool.. Just fill in a few things that it asks you, and it is configured
[01:47] <sw> hello
[01:47] <sw> i install kubuntu now i open the konsole and type "sudo apt-get update"
[01:47] <sw> to view the new packages
[01:47] <lopin> Um... I don't have any sound...
[01:47] <sw> but this is not work :S
[01:47] <r00t_> sudo apt-get install eagle-usb-utils
[01:47] <r00t_> startadsl
[01:48] <lopin> I'm not sure if linux may be compatible with my soundcard...
[01:48] <r00t_> adsl-setup
[01:49] <tuxplorer> sw: "This is not work" isnt the right way to complain.. Give us more information.. paste the output to a pastebina and give the link.. For "This is not work :S" no one would even bother to reply
[01:50] <sw> this is the output
[01:50] <sw> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[01:50] <sw>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[01:50] <sw> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US
[01:50] <sw>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (113 No route to host)
[01:50] <sw> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US
[01:50] <sw>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[01:50] <sw> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[01:50] <sw> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (113 No route to host)
[01:50] <sw> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[01:50] <sw> Reading package lists... Done
[01:50] <tuxplorer> sw: seems to be a problem with your resolving
[01:50] <sw> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:50] <Lynoure> sw: that's enough
[01:50] <tuxplorer> sw: i asked you to paste it to pastebin
[01:51] <tuxplorer> sw: whats the output of cat /etc/resolv.conf ?
[01:51] <tuxplorer> paste it in http://pastebin.ca and send the link only
[01:51] <r00t_> (H)
[01:52] <aguitel_> tuxplorer ,what is pppoe
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> !ops
[01:52] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:52] <r00t_> pppoe = point to point ethernet ....
[01:52] <tuxplorer> aguitel_: do you dial with some username and pass to connect? PPPoE - Point to Point Protocol over Ethernet
[01:53] <sw> somebody can help me ?
[01:53] <Fraction> pppoe = dial up?
[01:53] <tuxplorer> sw: first do what you were asked to..
[01:53] <aguitel_> tuxplorer ,no
[01:53] <tuxplorer> give the output of "cat /et/resolv.conf"
[01:54] <aguitel_> tuxplorer,this speedstream modem is usb
[01:54] <tarek_> im experiencing a massive system lag
[01:54] <tarek_> can someone help me?
[01:54] <tuxplorer> aguitel_: may be your router has the ability to store the passwd and dial it automatically.. In that case you just need to configure your gateway to be your router's ip
[01:55] <tuxplorer> aguitel_: oh! you want help to get your USB modem configured? Is there any driver for linux shipped with your modem?
[01:55] <aguitel_> texplorer ,i dont have router
[01:56] <aguitel_> tuxplorer, my modem is not recognized for linux ubuntu
[01:57] <tuxplorer> aguitel_: is there some cd with your modem?
[01:57] <tuxplorer> aguitel_:  is there a linux driver in it?
[01:57] <aguitel_> texplorer, i hace the driver working in windows
[01:57] <aguitel_> texplorer ,in the cd is not linux driver
[01:58] <afaith> tuxplorer: what kind of modem do you have ?
[01:58] <tuxplorer> afaith: I use Huawei 1003A router.. y?
[01:58] <aguitel_> texplorer,where is list of modem working with linix?
[01:59] <tuxplorer> aguitel_:  http://linux-usb.sourceforge.net/
[01:59] <tuxplorer> your modem is in the list
[01:59] <afaith> tuxplorer: it uses an USB port to connect to your pc ?
[01:59] <afaith> tuxplorer: maybe i've missed the entire conversation. whose the one that needs help ?
[01:59] <tuxplorer> afaith: I use eth and wifi only.. I do not have a problem.. its aguitel_ who has a problem
[01:59] <tuxplorer> afaith: :D
[02:00] <afaith> tuxplorer: my bad :P
[02:00] <afaith> aguitel_: what kind of modem do you have ?
[02:01] <aguitel_> afaith ,usb modem
[02:01] <afaith> aguitel_: would you be kind to tell me the name of the producer, the modem and other details ? i'm not a wizard to guess
[02:02] <aguitel_> afaith, the modem is speedstream 4060 usb
[02:03] <afaith> google rocks
[02:03] <afaith> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187964
[02:03] <tuxplorer> are you able to connect to http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ ?
[02:03] <afaith> www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
[02:03] <afaith> aguitel_: have a look http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187964
[02:04] <aguitel_> ok i looking now
[02:04] <tuxplorer> afaith: what did you find in that ubuntu forums thread? no replies..
[02:06] <dablitz> good morning channel
[02:06] <dablitz> is there anyone awake
[02:06] <tuxplorer> dablitz: no. we are all sleeping
[02:06] <dablitz> hey tuxplorer
[02:07] <dablitz> was wondeing if you could help me out with a kernel panic
[02:07] <tuxplorer> well! Keep wondering.. do not ever state your problem
[02:08] <aguitel_> afaith, my modem is listed in :http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids ,what can i do now?
[02:10] <kazuma_> !pastebin
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <dablitz> can anyone tell me how to update my initrd.img after making a new kernel. went from stock 2.6.20-15-generic to <IP_ADDRESS>. I was shown how before but cannot find where I wrote it down
[02:15] <tuxplorer> dablitz:  see if this helps http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-initrd.html
[02:17] <Man_U> hi
[02:17] <Man_U> fontforge needs some png jpg gif librarays, which shall i install with apt? libpng2 3 etc?
[02:18] <Man_U> which of those are the same as "libpng"?
[02:21] <harmental_> hey guys....i want to record my screen activity....do you know any cool tools for doing that?
[02:21] <grul> a camera :D
[02:21] <Man_U> some of you know which package in apt- is "libpng"?
[02:22] <harmental_> grul: funny ... ;D
[02:22] <tuxplorer> Man_U: mostly libpng12-0
[02:22] <grul> haha, sorry
[02:22] <tuxplorer> Man_U: coz, dev package is available only for that
[02:24] <tuxplorer> harmental_:  http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/03/04/screen_capture_movies.html
[02:25] <fkm> Hi there. Is there a way to open the home-directory as a new tab in an existing Konqueror - presuming that I already have the right settings in Konqueror?
[02:25] <fkm> I can do that with Alt+F2 and then type /home/fkm/
[02:26] <tuxplorer> fkm: file:///home/user/
[02:28] <harmental_> tuxplorer: thx....but i was hoping there exists a simpler way to do screen capturing......
[02:28] <fkm> Ok, I'm sorry, I have to rephrase that question
[02:28] <tuxplorer> How do I change the default browser for kopete? It always opens any link in konqueror, and there is no option in its settings.. In KDE Control Center, normally there 'll be a Choose Components in KDE Components tab.. But in Kubuntu's Kcontrol it is missing
[02:29] <fkm> I would like to make a button in the tasklist (kicker).
[02:29] <fkm> file:///home/fkm/, konqueror file:///home/fkm/ and kfmclient file:///home/fkm/ don't work. The button seems unclickable/inactive :(
[02:30] <Man_U> tuxplorer: it is the newest version, i cant import images in fotforge so they told to install newest version, what shall i do?
[02:31] <fkm> And what I've copied from the "Quick Launcher"'s Home-button doesn't work either (was my first try).
[02:35] <bitpull> hi @all, does anybody knows a tool, which I can use to download a complete IMAP-Mailbox including all Folders? It is just as Backup and it should be possible to open the Mail-File in lets say KMail and to sync them back to another Server. Is there any tool for this task?
[02:39] <chris_____> hey everyone - am having trouble with web serving on kubuntu - I've got apache, php and mysql set up and have installed everything needed including the website such that it works locally(on the machine that's hosting it) but I can't access it externally - how do you do this?
[02:47] <chris_____> anyone?
[02:47] <genii> dthacker-lt: :)
[02:48] <genii> chris_____: I just got here, what is your problem?
[02:48] <chris_____> hey everyone - am having trouble with web serving on kubuntu - I've got apache, php and mysql set up and have installed everything needed including the website such that it works locally(on the machine that's hosting it) but I can't access it externally - how do you do this?
[02:48] <chris_____> genii - replay of previous post:-)
[02:49] <genii> chris_____: np :) If you do not have a static IP number from your provider you will need to get some service like DynDNS then run a client on your computer like ex-ipupdate, as well as open the ports on your router to let web traffic into your box
[02:50] <genii> ez-ipupdate is the right name (typos, need more coffee yet)
[02:50] <chris_____> genii: ah - I will be getting a static IP - shouldn't it work over a local network though?
[02:51] <Madinko12> Hello !
[02:51] <genii> chris_____: Ah, when you said "externally" i took that to be from the internet :)
[02:51] <Myelin> Hello, how do i install nvclock? Its not in adept manager after updating the repositories!
[02:51] <genii> chris_____: Yes, over your lan it should be accessible, however apache may not have yet ben asigned an IP as well
[02:52] <genii> chris_____: It will usually fall back in this case to localhost, <IP_ADDRESS> etc
[02:52] <chris_____> genii: sorry! how do I assign an IP to apache?
[02:52] <genii> chris_____: 1 moment I'll get the exact file to edit and the entry
[02:52] <chris_____> yeah - trouble with that is that I already have a mac os x server on the circuit with localhost
[02:52] <bitpull> well, done it. The tool i used is called offlineimap. It is easy to use and does support more than just copying from one Imap-Server to another..
[02:52] <chris_____> ok cool thanks!
[02:53] <Madinko12> I have a problem with KDE ! The taskbar is not present !
[02:56] <genii> chris_____: you need to add lines into your /etc/apache2/ports.conf file like this: Listen ###.###.###.###:##       in dotted IP:port eg: Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[02:57] <genii> chris_____: With admin/sudo privelege of course
[02:57] <genii> (wen you chenge the file)
[02:58] <chris_____> ok have changed it - i presume apache needs to be restarted - can this be done without restarting the computer?
[02:59] <genii> chris_____: After the edit/save you need to restart, yes. do:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:00] <chris_____> ok this isn't healthy:
[03:00] <chris_____>  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[03:00] <chris_____> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[03:00] <chris_____> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[03:00] <chris_____> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[03:00] <chris_____> Unable to open logs
[03:00] <genii> chris_____: That means the edit did not take
[03:01] <chris_____> doh!
[03:01] <genii> chris_____: Or else the IP you put was not the IP the machine has
[03:01] <chris_____> it had Listen 80 in already - perhaps if I took that out?
[03:01] <genii> work AFK
[03:02] <chris_____> ok took that out and only gotapache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName this time...
[03:03] <chris_____> definately the same ip address as is in network settings under eth0 though...
[03:04] <genii> chris_____: Do: ifconfig then look at what IP the box has, maybe something like <IP_ADDRESS>    then put into the /etc/apache2/ports.conf file: Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:80   if that was for example the IP
[03:04] <genii> chris_____: Remembering to edit with admin/sudo privelege?
[03:06] <chris_____> yep - my ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:06] <chris_____> doesn't work though...
[03:06] <genii> chris_____: Hmm, that is normally the only change needed
[03:07] <genii> chris_____: You are using for the webserving apache2 and not apache1 yes?
[03:07] <chris_____> tried <IP_ADDRESS>:80 in browser but access denied
[03:07] <chris_____> yep apache 2
[03:07] <chris_____> and yep sudo all the way:-)
[03:07] <genii> chris_____: Ok, so far so good then
[03:08] <genii> chris_____: Other than it is being stubborn ;)
[03:08] <chris_____> :-)
[03:08] <chris_____> never easy eh?
[03:08] <genii> chris_____: On the local box itself can you get to it by <IP_ADDRESS> in browser? (no need to put the :80, that is default http port)
[03:10] <chris_____> ur, nope
[03:11] <chris_____> wierd - that worked beofre
[03:11] <genii> chris_____: OK, restart by CLI again,eg:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:12] <chris_____> done
[03:12] <genii> chris_____: If it says not running thats fine so long as it starts it after discovering no runing copy to halt etc
[03:12] <genii> chris_____: OK, first try local then remote
[03:12] <genii> work afk
[03:12] <chris_____> neither works..
[03:13] <chris_____> when i reloaded I got the errors:
[03:13] <chris_____> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[03:13] <chris_____> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[03:14] <genii> chris_____: pls issue:  ps ax|grep http   and tell me if it shows httpd (maybe 5 instances) running
[03:15] <genii> chris_____: Also are using inetd or not
[03:15] <chris_____>  5378 ?        S      0:00 kio_http [kdeinit]  http /tmp/ksocket-chris/klauncher3                                        SnV1a.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-chris/konquerorlnrgDb.slave-socket
[03:15] <chris_____>  5380 ?        S      0:00 kio_http [kdeinit]  http /tmp/ksocket-chris/klauncher3                                        SnV1a.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-chris/kdedOSA63b.slave-socket
[03:15] <chris_____>  5653 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep http
[03:16] <chris_____> .. is what I get
[03:16] <genii> Hmm Ok let me think a minute
[03:17] <chris_____> ok:-) brb --> peppermint tea
[03:18] <excitatory> so is there any advantage to using the fglrx driver over the ati driver for a radeon 9600?
[03:18] <genii> chris_____: Sorry should be apache2 in this not httpd LOL so:   ps ax|grep apache2   should show it if it is actually loading etc
[03:18] <bob__> where is jerry
[03:18] <genii> chris_____:  lines like:    /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL
[03:18] <someguy> hey everyone happy friday
[03:19] <genii> Yup :) Payday today and weekend tomorrow
[03:19] <someguy> sweeeet!
[03:19] <someguy> i have a silly question
[03:20] <genii> chris_____: Please report result of command:  uname -a
[03:21] <someguy> i have klamav and i opened it and it shows up now 2x's in the KDE Panel
[03:21] <someguy> when I right click on it and go to exit it doesnt go away
[03:21] <chris_____> genii: Linux server 2.6.15-28-server #1 SMP Wed Jul 18 23:11:55 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:21] <someguy> only pkill gets rid of it
[03:21] <genii> chris_____: OK, you did not set some name for your server
[03:22] <genii> chris_____: Well, you called it "server" perhaps
[03:23] <chris_____> i did:-)
[03:23] <genii> chris_____:Let me know if: cat /etc/hostane says "server"
[03:23] <genii> hostname
[03:23] <genii> typos again :(
[03:23] <chris_____> yup:-)
[03:24] <genii> chris_____: OK, lemme think again :)
[03:24] <genii> chris_____: Are you starting internet services thru a superserver like inetd for instance, or running something like firestarter?
[03:25] <chris_____> a very good question!
[03:25] <chris_____> i think inetd sounds familiar
[03:25] <chris_____> but I couldn't tell you
[03:25] <chris_____> is there a wayof finding out?
[03:25] <genii> chris_____: Yes, do: ps ax|grep inetd
[03:26] <Man_U> i have troubles with 3d, where can i look to proof that 3d is available? i have nvidia 6600gt
[03:27] <chris_____> 5697 pts/2    R+     0:00 grep inetd
[03:27] <genii> chris_____: OK, not running. That is not the problem then
[03:27] <genii> work, AFK
[03:29] <chris_____> I've noticed something - when I type in the ip in a remote browser it comes up with an error including the port number 443 - any help?
[03:30] <hydrogen> what package  do I need to install to make imap+tls work with kmail?
[03:30] <hydrogen> its telling me "Starting tls failed"
[03:31] <bob__> weaddababyitsaboy
[03:32] <timgluz> try search with command apt-cache search tls
[03:33] <genii> chris_____: Please edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, go to bottom of file and add: servername <your-server-name-goes-here>     save, restart apache2 once more,retry browser
[03:33] <Firekill> i need help
[03:34] <genii> chris_____: In this case your servername is just    server
[03:34] <Firekill> when i can meet wine config??
[03:34] <kazuma_> hey genii how are you xD
[03:34] <kazuma_> thanks for the help the last time xD
[03:35] <genii> kazuma_: I just turned 40 :) you're welcome for the help, pass it along
[03:35] <genii> kazuma_: So I'm feeling like an old man today LOL to answer "how are you"
[03:35] <kazuma_> wow congrats!!!
[03:35] <kazuma_> hahaha :P
[03:36] <kazuma_> well i hope you can go 140 more :P
[03:36] <genii> chris_____: Any joy yet?
[03:36] <kazuma_> i'll be 20 on sunday haha :P
[03:37] <chris_____> genii: works on local computer..
[03:37] <chris_____> no joy on remote though:-(
[03:37] <genii> chris_____: What message if any from remote?
[03:37] <genii> (in browser)
[03:37] <chris_____> currently just loading
[03:38] <chris_____> msy still work, but I'm expecting timeout
[03:38] <pag> genii, thanks. and hello :)
[03:38] <genii> chris_____: OK if port 443 again let me know
[03:38] <chris_____> will do - bear with me!
[03:38] <genii> pag:  :)
[03:38] <genii> bah, work again. AFK
[03:39] <mikl_> mikl__: impostor :P
[03:40] <mikl__> dsl premire connection de ma vie sur irc
[03:40] <mikl__> alors tout en auto :)
[03:40] <chris_____> aahh!
[03:41] <mikl_> mikl__: Well, I am not that good at french, but welcome anyways :)
[03:41] <mikl__> c'est un channel franais ?
[03:41] <mikl__> ok
[03:41] <mikl__> sorry
[03:41] <chris_____> that;s really really wierd
[03:41] <chris_____> problem solved!
[03:41] <chris_____> but for some reason firefox in my remote computer won't have it
[03:41] <mikl__> thx, just said that it was my first connection in my life
[03:42] <pag> !fr | mikl__
[03:42] <ubotu> mikl__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:42] <chris_____> possibly because it's set up with proxies
[03:42] <chris_____> genii: thanks genii! You're a great help!
[03:42] <mikl__> irc seems awesome while strange at first
[03:43] <mikl__> ok, i'll try french one
[03:43] <mikl__> my poor english won't be enough here I think
[03:43] <rogue_x> Hello
[03:44] <robotgeek> !fr
[03:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:44] <SlimeyPe1e> hi
[03:44] <mikl__> I saw that
[03:44] <mikl_> mikl__: I understood as much - I didn't the next part :)
[03:44] <mikl__> which one ?
[03:44] <rogue_x> Can someone help me with Ubuntu Restricted drivers
[03:45] <mikl_> mikl__: "alors tout en auto :)"
[03:45] <mikl_> you did it yourself...?
[03:45] <rogue_x> Can someone help me with Ubuntu Restricted drivers?
[03:46] <mikl__> ok, that meens that i lauched the Konversation software, with all default parameter.. just reply ok when when asked
[03:46] <mikl__> then I arrived here
[03:46] <mikl__> with mikl : impostor :):):):)
[03:46] <chris_____> cheers again genii - bye!
[03:46] <pag> rogue_x, please, be more specific...
[03:46] <mikl_> mikl__: yes, that is the default setup - take it your login name is the same as mine :)
[03:46] <mikl__> :)
[03:46] <mikl__> ok
[03:47] <mikl__> this is when i fall into the english channel... (with a french distro huh !) some parameters need to be adjusted.
[03:47] <rogue_x> pag: I installed the package but there is no entry in the Menu to run it
[03:48] <mikl_> mikl__: French distro?
[03:48] <pag> rogue_x, press alt+f2 and type: kdesu restricted-manager
[03:48] <mikl__> yep, language pack fr.
[03:49] <mikl__> locales, kde, mozilla and so on
[03:49] <mikl__> nevermind
[03:49] <mikl_> ah, well - I thought that there was a french version. Suffice to say that the language pack does not extend to application configuration :)
[03:49] <rogue_x> pa
[03:50] <SoulChild> Hello I want to load my asus module to use hotkey, but i get:  "FATAL: Error inserting asus_laptop (/lib/modules/2.6.22-9-generic/kernel/drivers/misc/asus-laptop.ko): No such device"
[03:50] <rogue_x> pag: It only shows Nvidia driver... what about drivers to watch DVD's or other stuff?
[03:50] <genii> back
[03:50] <mikl__> but for some configuration, it does...
[03:51] <pag> rogue_x, those are not drivers, but codecs...
[03:51] <pag> !dvd | rogue_x
[03:51] <ubotu> rogue_x: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:51] <mikl__> thx for your welcome, i'll peek at french channel.
[03:51] <pag> !mp3 | rogue_x
[03:51] <ubotu> rogue_x: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:51] <genii> chris_____: Can those machines ping each other? It may be some other issue, like gateway is not working etc and not related to apache ata ll
[03:52] <genii> chris_____: if you are still here :)
[03:52] <rogue_x> pag: ok  so I selected Nvidia.. the box shows enabled but says not in use
[03:52] <chris_____> genii: yep they could ping all along
[03:52] <chris_____> and they're working fine now!
[03:53] <pag> rogue_x, I'm not familiar with the programm, sorry.
[03:53] <rogue_x> p
[03:53] <chris_____> apart from mozilla, but I'm not that bothered about that at the mo
[03:53] <rogue_x> pag: ok thanks anyway
[03:53] <chris_____> genii: good work!
[03:53] <genii> chris_____: You're welcome, pass it along :)
[03:54] <chris_____> genii: will do, many many thanks:-)
[03:54] <chris_____> genii: catch you later!
[03:54] <mrksbrd> has anyone found any good software for an ipod???
[03:55] <coreymon77> mrksbrd: does itunes work through wine?
[03:55] <coreymon77> mrksbrd: or are you talking aout a podcatcher
[03:56] <mrksbrd> software to load songs onto ipod
[03:56] <coreymon77> mrksbrd: oh, does itunes work over wine
[03:56] <timgluz> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
[03:56] <dthacker-lt> gtkpod
[03:57] <mrksbrd> only thing i have found were prog that you had to format fat 32 to linux
[03:57] <timgluz> yes also gtkpod
[03:57] <dthacker-lt> as long as you are not using DRM'ed itune files
[03:58] <mrksbrd> oh ok
[03:58] <mrksbrd> ty
[03:59] <dthacker-lt> np.:)
[03:59] <dthacker-lt> any Kplato users in da house?
[04:00] <dthacker-lt> crickets.......
[04:01] <dthacker-lt> never mind.
[04:01] <aaron> Hi. I've been using gnome/beryl for a long time. is compiz fusion what i should be using with kde/xfce?
[04:02] <someguy> dthacker - not kplato
[04:02] <mikl_> aaron: yes, if you want
[04:02] <mrksbrd> what about a good backup client to create an entire image of your hdd, and have the ability to re-run an install from this backup??
[04:02] <aaron> mrksbrd: acronis
[04:02] <someguy> ganttproject, project open, phprojekt
[04:03] <dthacker-lt> someguy: taskjuggler?
[04:03] <someguy> nahhh
[04:03] <someguy> you?
[04:03] <mikl_> aaron: Compiz Fusion is rather platform-independent, although it's configuration utility is made with GTK+2
[04:03] <aaron> which is better to use with an ATI x1300
[04:03] <dthacker-lt> someguy: I'm in the experimentation phase.  I tried TJ and kplato yesterday.
[04:03] <genii> mrksbrd: Where will you be making the backups to?
[04:04] <someguy> dthacker you looking for a team or just you?
[04:04] <dthacker-lt> just me, mostly.
[04:04] <mrksbrd> cd or dvd
[04:04] <someguy> ok
[04:04] <mikl_> aaron: since Beryl is now Compiz Fusion, I'd go for it :)
[04:04] <dthacker-lt> are you finding ganttproject pretty usable?
[04:05] <genii> mrksbrd: Ah, OK. If a second hd I would have said to just use dd to make an image
[04:05] <mrksbrd> my intention is if something goes haywire i won't loose everything i have installed
[04:05] <aaron> Grrr. where's a howto? i just noticed that the section is empty at kubuntuguide.org
[04:05] <someguy> dthacker -- this project looks very promising
[04:05] <someguy> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opproject/
[04:06] <someguy> dthacker - yes its super easy
[04:06] <Madinko12> Hello everyone !
[04:06] <someguy> dthacker - but its too limited in functionality for REAL project management
[04:06] <alexandros> hey guys!
[04:06] <someguy> hey alex
[04:06] <alexandros> anybody knows how do I run adept-update ?
[04:06] <tuxplorer> kde
[04:06] <someguy> sudo apt-get update
[04:07] <alexandros> no I mean the GUI notification icon
[04:07] <dthacker-lt> someguy: "I'm not a real project manager, I just play one in my cube" :)
[04:07] <Madinko12> Kde don't show the taskbar! And "kicker" don't works. Can you help me ?
[04:07] <mrksbrd> sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:07] <kazuma_> happy birthday to genii xD
[04:07] <kazuma_> let's drink beer till we die xD
[04:08] <alexandros> mrksbrd: I'd like to have the little notifier icon on the bottom right. is that possible? I accidentaly uninstalled it
[04:08] <someguy> dthacker - LOL!  I really think project open, dotproject and phprojekt are the best. but http://sourceforge.net/projects/opproject/ looks very promising
[04:08] <alexandros> what r u guys talking about?
[04:08] <alexandros> if I may ask?  And "kicker" don't works.
[04:10] <someguy> alex - sometimes i do that but I have been in IT for 15 years
[04:10] <dthacker-lt> ok, I'll look at dotproject and phpprojekt.  thanks for the tips
[04:10] <mrksbrd> sudo apt-get install adept
[04:10] <alexandros> thats great man
[04:11] <alexandros> thanks mrksbrd :)
[04:11] <alexandros> someguy: in which country are you?
[04:11] <mrksbrd> yw
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> ok, this may not be the right channel for this, but here goes anyway. A friend of mine's XP box is virused, i think with some kind of rootkit, is it possible to use a live-cd to clean it out?
[04:11] <someguy> dthacker - you can check em out in Virtual environments and then demo em.  Project Open has a vm
[04:11] <dthacker-lt> someguy: cool
[04:12] <someguy> hitmanwilly - not 100%.  make sure you have a backup of critical data and then rebuild but this time rebuild with Kubuntu linux
[04:12] <someguy> alex - US
[04:12] <dthacker-lt> yeah hitmanWilly, don't make them use Gentoo :)
[04:12] <alexandros> would u prefer Project Open or OnePoint ?
[04:13] <slawekk> hi
[04:13] <alexandros> I am fro mGreece
[04:13] <slawekk> how to connect phone
[04:13] <someguy> hitmanwilly - some malware is not easily removed and will remain post "removal" with AV tools
[04:13] <slawekk> motorola v 547
[04:13] <slawekk> to xubu 7.04?
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> someguy: (: don't think she'd like that too much. altho, getting her to come over to the light side will not be easy
[04:13] <slawekk> or pliz redirect to channel where can i meet some wise people
[04:13] <jthomas> hitmanWilly: look into Trinity Rescue CD, its a bootable linux with a bunch of AV tools etc
[04:14] <slawekk> but not "hackers" or something like that
[04:14] <someguy> alex - dotproject, phprojekt, project open or onepoint
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> jthomas: thanks, that's the answer i was looking for, just couldn't remember the name :)
[04:14] <genii> kazuma_: Since i'm at work, I am on coffee. after work some beer perhaps LOL
[04:14] <someguy> all fit different needs some are easier to install and manage etc etc
[04:14] <someguy> slawekk - not here we are all idiots. lol
[04:14] <kazuma_> hahaha that's the way things shall be done my friend :P
[04:15] <slawekk> so where can i find guide
[04:15] <slawekk> to connect my moto v 547
[04:15] <alexandros> nice :D I'll check 'em out. thanks. maybe I'll need them for my next project
[04:15] <jthomas> hitmanWilly: once cleaned-ish, run Spybot (update, immunize, clean) and AdAware, and maybe HiJackThis... all free progs that are really nice at cleaning... but with a rootkit you may be hosed already, beyond hope.
[04:15] <slawekk> ?
[04:15] <slawekk> ?
[04:15] <someguy> hitmanwilly - you will have varied results as not all scanners can even detect all forms of malware. its best to backup and rebuild.
[04:15] <genii> mrksbrd: I normally use dd to make an image on a second hd (like an external usb) then just restore from livecd by reversing process. But you may find something useful here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> jthomas: i was afraid of that, but I at least gotta give it a shot...thanx.
[04:16] <someguy> hitmanwilly - then use the concept of least privledge and give her a regular non-admin user
[04:16] <dthacker-lt> ++ someguy
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> someguy: definately
[04:16] <slawekk> s.h.i.t
[04:16] <slawekk> nobody want to help
[04:16] <slawekk> :P
[04:16] <someguy> hitmanwilly - or you can dual boot the box so she eases into it
[04:17] <genii> hitmanWilly: You have some user needs to run some sudo things but you don't want them full access?
[04:17] <dthacker-lt> !language | slawekk
[04:17] <ubotu> slawekk: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:17] <jthomas> someguy: that doesn't work too well in a home environment, when there is no administrator... hitmanWilly i'd just give a full account.  windows people don't understand privledges and without a kdesu box or something, it makes it a hassle to ever install anything...
[04:17] <mrksbrd> genii.....ty
[04:17] <jthomas> but maybe thats just me, knowing full well that windows users don't get much...
[04:18] <timgluz> slawekk , how do you want connect via cable or bluetooth?
[04:18] <someguy> jthomas - yes. basic computer user training is required but once they get it the world is a better place. I train in info sec
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> jthomas: yeah, im pretty sure im gonna have to completely rebuild her install for her anyway, so might as well be nix, heh...
[04:18] <someguy> lol
[04:18] <slawekk> timgluz: wait I WILL CHECK
[04:18] <jthomas> indeed, make it nix!
[04:18] <someguy> most computer users have no clue its not just windows but mac users as well
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> someguy: yeah, definately (coming from a gentoo user)
[04:19] <genii> hitmanWilly: There are some simple things you can add to /etc/sudoers to limit what certain users can run. disabling specific commands like doing sudo su or sudo passwd for instance
[04:19] <jthomas> someguy: its not that i disagee, but for home use there is generally very little info sec.  its too much work to log out of a windows box just to add in AppXYZ as Admin, and then log out and in again... IMHO...
[04:20] <genii> hitmanWilly: But still allowing them to change their own passwd etc
[04:20] <someguy> hitmanwilly - why not go Ubuntu/Kubuntu.  Gentoo is sweet but all that compiling
[04:20] <jthomas> someguy: yes most computer users in general don't really know.  its like having a car without training classes.
[04:21] <someguy> jthomas - yeah i never said it would make it easier .. just more secure.  Remember I can't give my mom and grandmom OpenBSD
[04:21] <jthomas> hitmanWilly: why oh why would you suggest Gentoo?
[04:21] <jthomas> lol
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> someguy: i like it for me, but I wouldn't throw a newbie into it
[04:21] <jthomas> exactly
[04:21] <genii> For average person kubuntu is least anxiety causing when coming from windoze
[04:21] <someguy> hitmanwilly - its too annoying for a regular user they need a binary distro that actually works out of the box like umm... Kubuntu for ex.
[04:21] <slawekk> TIMGLUZ:
[04:21] <slawekk> via bluetooth
[04:22] <someguy> genii - absolutely!
[04:22] <frauchig> (K)Ubuntu is fine, unfortunately there are some broken things like the manual partitioning tool
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> someguy: i agree kubu is nice for a newbie user, i actually still use it on my laptop just cause its less hassle to set up
[04:23] <genii> frauchig: But how often does Jane doe need to use that?
[04:23] <someguy> hitmanwilly - its no more a newbie distro than any other its just more usable and FOSS dev's have not been good about understanding usablity
[04:23] <alyssa_> good morning kubuntu people
[04:23] <kazuma_> genii what do you think from fedora core 7
[04:24] <frauchig> at least once, and then jane wont be able to setup Ubuntu w/o knowing much about other tools
[04:24] <genii> kazuma_: Fedora i dunno... i stopped using redhat/mandrake type dists somewhere about 2001
[04:24] <someguy> I gave my friends kubuntu CD and said install this and they LOVE it and they are not even expert users
[04:24] <someguy> Fedora sux
[04:24] <someguy> lmao
[04:24] <Eeyore-Jr> !build
[04:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:24] <kazuma_> and what is the difference my friend?
[04:25] <kazuma_> with these distros?
[04:25] <ScarFreewill> I stoped using fedora at c3 (first one i tried)
[04:25] <someguy> If you want bleeeding edge with a lame 6mth release for all alpha code go fedora
[04:25] <alyssa_> fedora is redhat flavored
[04:25] <slawekk> http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=022ce983ab30c010VgnVCM1000008206b00aRCRD&show=productHome
[04:25] <slawekk> guys!!!
[04:25] <slawekk> help
[04:25] <alyssa_> tastes like poo
[04:25] <someguy> fedora is crap flavored
[04:25] <someguy> lol
[04:25] <slawekk> how to connect to be usuful
[04:25] <ScarFreewill> kazuma_: the pakage management for one..
[04:25] <alyssa_> here here someguy!
[04:25] <someguy> just kidding
[04:26] <someguy> come on man.. i can't even joke
[04:26] <ScarFreewill> kazuma_: how updated your software is...
[04:26] <alyssa_> I was agreeing with you\
[04:26] <genii> kazuma_: LOL you are getting some answers to your question now :)
[04:26] <someguy> lol!
[04:26] <someguy> =P
[04:26] <alyssa_> ease of installation
[04:26] <kazuma_> hahaha
[04:26] <kazuma_> xD
[04:26] <kazuma_> i used to have fedora core 6
[04:27] <alyssa_> lamp server up in 25 minutes or so
[04:27] <someguy> i am sorry to hear that
[04:27] <alyssa_> my condolences kazuma
[04:27] <kazuma_> and it's quite nice, but i felt it difficult with networking :S and it is supposed to be other way
[04:27] <kazuma_> lamp? what is that =o
[04:27] <genii> The only rpm based dist I use now is Centos and thats only because Asterisk@home uses it for base system
[04:27] <someguy> if you want to play with REL then get CENTOS. Fedora is not anything other than unstable alpha
[04:27] <alyssa_> linux apache mysql php server
[04:28] <genii> kazuma_: Linux apache MySQL PHP
[04:28] <ScarFreewill> anyone know any cool tools for routing / networking?
[04:28] <kazuma_> =o
[04:28] <someguy> genni - i hear you there.
[04:28] <genii> alyssa_: Heh :)
[04:28] <alyssa_> its da nuts
[04:28] <slawekk> jesus what a pity
[04:28] <slawekk> what sort of mankind
[04:28] <slawekk> nobody want to help
[04:28] <alyssa_> womankind thank you
[04:28] <someguy> scarfreewill - for what? what are you trying to do?
[04:29] <slawekk> mean nobody have nothing to say
[04:29] <kazuma_> what is your problem O.o
[04:29] <someguy> scarfreewill - building a router? firewall?
[04:29] <slawekk> please grt some refreshements
[04:29] <slawekk> kurwa mac
[04:29] <kazuma_> slawekk?
[04:29] <genii> slawekk: Please state exactly your problem so that someone may know how to asist
[04:29] <ScarFreewill> someguy: I'm just wondering I got routeros on my rb and i was wondering if i could do that stuff in linux
[04:29] <slawekk> want to connect my motorola v 547 to xubuntu 7.04
[04:29] <ScarFreewill> well i think ros is based on linux?
[04:29] <alyssa_> hehe I linuxed my router
[04:30] <someguy> Scarfreewill - check out vyatta
[04:30] <slawekk> here u are the link to it
[04:30] <slawekk> http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=022ce983ab30c010VgnVCM1000008206b00aRCRD&show=productHome
[04:30] <slawekk> cellphone by bluetooth
[04:30] <alyssa_> what exactly you wanna do with it when you connect it I have a v555
[04:30] <slawekk> i know there are some problems
[04:30] <slawekk> alyssa: there is no problem to connect?
[04:31] <alyssa_> nopers just connect it right up
[04:31] <slawekk> to copy some files through it like rrings
[04:31] <genii> slawekk: My Polish understanding is nonexistent. do you have an english page of the features?
[04:31] <someguy> Scarfreewill - source forge has like a million projects in the routing space.  Do you want a distro with a nice GUI or do you just want the raw daemons?
[04:31] <alyssa_> modmymoto.com
[04:31] <slawekk> does moto need some extra stuff to be used with it?
[04:31] <genii> slawekk: Yes, you can use Kbluetooth to move files back and forth. i do this with my Nokia
[04:31] <slawekk> ok. thanks
[04:31] <alyssa_> has a pretty fair explaination
[04:32] <slawekk> :)
[04:32] <someguy> scarfreewill - vyatta is a very nice project and could eventually kick Cisco's axx
[04:32] <MilhousePunkRock> also there is kmobiletools
[04:32] <ScarFreewill> someguy: which ever is the best eg. wget owns any gui downloader
[04:32] <genii> I wish there was a Nokia PC Suite for Linux
[04:33] <alyssa_> isnt there gnoki?
[04:33] <genii> alyssa_: OK, to be more exact, for KDE
[04:33] <someguy> scarfree - there is a VM of vyata you can check out http://www.vyatta.com/
[04:33] <alyssa_> thbbb
[04:33] <someguy> when did this become #advanced networking. lol
[04:34] <ScarFreewill> I just don't see wireshark hitting cli soon... I don't min using cli... its all the same for me
[04:34] <someguy> jk
[04:35] <someguy> k/x/ubuntu needs more games in the repos
[04:35] <alyssa_> then write some
[04:35] <ScarFreewill> hehe
[04:35] <someguy> lol
[04:35] <someguy> ok
[04:36] <genii> alyssa_: I'm working on it actually :)
[04:36] <ScarFreewill> genii: what lang?
[04:36] <someguy> but they will be a 1x1 pixel dot that bounces around the screen
[04:36] <genii> ScarFreewill: C
[04:36] <alyssa_> parents just got a "VISTA IS BEING SHUT DOWN TO PREVENT DAMAGE TO THE MACHINE"
[04:36] <alyssa_> ROFL
[04:36] <someguy> alyssa - well shut it down and boot up into Kubuntu cd and say fdisk and then never look back
[04:36] <genii> alyssa_: I think it should do that when you try to install it, not after
[04:36] <ScarFreewill> lmao
[04:37] <someguy> vista is a piece of crap.  It has worse device support than the openbsd project
[04:37] <someguy> they suk
[04:37] <genii> I agree
[04:38] <someguy> worked at a company in the joint dev program with MS and its sukd since alpha and I do stil think its in alpha
[04:38] <someguy> genii - i do have a dual boot box though for high end games but I dont ever use it otherwise
[04:39] <someguy> there is no QA team at MS its just all of us the annoyed users
[04:39] <someguy> lol
[04:40] <someguy> sorry I had to get out some of my frustration at the "man". I have vented and now will not be annoying
[04:41] <genii> someguy: I have a box which i multi-boot to various OS but hardly ever use the windoze side anymore. I last booted it maybe 8 months or more ago
[04:41] <someguy> lol
[04:41] <someguy> genii - yeah, FOSS is so much better except on the Video, Audio and Video gaming side
[04:42] <ScarFreewill> same here last boot to windows was 17 feb 07
[04:42] <alyssa_> Microsoft's userbase is the beta team
[04:42] <trekdann1> audio?
[04:42] <trekdann1> hmm itunes yea that's right
[04:42] <ScarFreewill> I've got virtualbox though but I only use it to test apps.
[04:43] <someguy> on the application side of things there need to be more quality, usable applications and hopefully Canonical will help drive that
[04:43] <someguy> right on my friends
[04:43] <ninHer> hi all
[04:43] <someguy> itunes would be great but apple still can bite me.  DRM = um NO thanks!
[04:44] <someguy> agnostic-theist - you are such an dichotomous enigma
[04:45] <ScarFreewill> drm... lets just leave that alone..
[04:45] <someguy> lol
[04:45] <someguy> yes
[04:45] <someguy> literally
[04:45] <trekdann1> hmm DRM is really impossible without TC and Linus himself said it would be possible that the kernel would support TPC
[04:46] <alyssa_> I'm a dyslexic agnostic insomniac
[04:46] <alyssa_> I stay up all night wondering if there really is a dog
[04:46] <someguy> lmao!
[04:46] <MilhousePunkRock> How would you partition a disk that holds two partitions owned by windows already in order to make a proper kubuntu install?
[04:46] <someguy> there is no comedy allowed in this channel!  No laughing allowed.  LOL
[04:47] <alexandros1> MilhousePunkRock: is there any unallocated disk space?
[04:47] <alyssa_> drm is eeeevil
[04:47] <alyssa_> the work of satan I tell you
[04:48] <someguy> milhouse -  http://www.howtoforge.com/dual_boot_windows_xp_vista_ubuntu_feisty
[04:48] <ScarFreewill> alyssa_: you hit the hammer right on the nail!
[04:48] <alyssa_> thank you
[04:48] <martijn81> MilhousePunkRock: make three additional partitions, one root, one /home and one swap
[04:48] <MilhousePunkRock> alexandros1: Yes, that and defragging is taken care of already. I was thinking abou the classic threesome /root, /home /swap
[04:48] <someguy> milhouse - make sure you have a backup before you start.  =)
[04:49] <MilhousePunkRock> martijn81: The caveat is the choice between logical and primary
[04:49] <alyssa_> be primary luke, be primary
[04:49] <someguy> lol
[04:49] <martijn81> MilhousePunkRock: you're limited to 4 primary partitions (on 32bit i suppose?)
[04:49] <alyssa_> use the acpi=force luke
[04:50] <MilhousePunkRock> martijn81: Exactly... So which of the three should be the primary?
[04:50] <someguy> drm just might be the devil - we have not seen how far the concept will be expanded.  So remember that.. think 10 years from now
[04:50] <someguy> milhouse - did you see my post? http://www.howtoforge.com/dual_boot_windows_xp_vista_ubuntu_feisty
[04:52] <MilhousePunkRock> someguy: No, thanks, I check it out
[04:52] <someguy> cool
[04:52] <martijn81> MilhousePunkRock: does not mather i think
[04:52] <Tabmows> is the default adept lists for installing software etc. sufficient? Because i can't see mysql server in there
[04:53] <someguy> tabmows - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:54] <someguy> milhouse - that site is awesome.  howtoforge.net
[04:54] <MilhousePunkRock> someguy: Your guide does not fit my needs... Winblows is already installed, and there is another partition also...
[04:55] <MilhousePunkRock> someguy: Try milhouse<tabkey>, that way it will get highlighted for me...
[04:55] <MilhousePunkRock> someguy: I think I came across that site a few times already while looking up stuff
[04:56] <alexandros1> MilhousePunkRock: why kubuntu's automatic partitioning wont work for you?
[04:56] <MilhousePunkRock> alexandros1: It's not for me, but for a friend anyway. I would not trust automatic partitioning either, when there is vital stuff on the harddrive
[04:57] <mikearthur> how can I stop /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py starting on KDE startup? using kpowersave
[04:57] <someguy> MilhousePunkRock, http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html?CMP=OTC-0O724Z062301&ATT=Creating+a+Dual-Boot+Windows+XP+and+Ubuntu+Laptop
[04:57] <alexandros1> MilhousePunkRock: fair enough. it worked for me fine though
[04:58] <kaminix> If I add the UID for my USB-drive and set where it should be mounted, will it then be mounted there everytime I turn it on or just when I start my computer?
[04:58] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: You are looking for automounting via hal and udev
[04:59] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: Okay? And how is that done?
[04:59] <someguy> MilhousePunkRock, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING!!!
[05:00] <MilhousePunkRock> someguy: The setup is already done, in less than an hour, including manual partitioning...
[05:04] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: How do I use udev and hal to get the effect I wish for? I didn't even know HAL was customizable :s
[05:04] <bombolo7> ciao
[05:05] <juraj> hi all
[05:05] <someguy> ciao right back at you!
[05:05] <juraj> does anybody have experience setting up ISDN?
[05:05] <someguy> hey juraj
[05:06] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: I think HAL is not customizable, but you need that for automounting
[05:06] <someguy> !isdn
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isdn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <kaminix> And how do  I make it always set the same place to mount?
[05:07] <someguy> juraj, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IsdnHowto/Breezy
[05:07] <zipper> kaminix, /etc/fstab
[05:07] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: I mean, in fstab the CD drives mounting place is specified, shouldn't it work the same way with a HDD?
[05:07] <zipper> kaminix, you can use different tools to edit it
[05:07] <juraj> I think these instructions are outdated
[05:07] <juraj> and they were unfinished, too.
[05:08] <zipper> kaminix, yes. Yes it does. Ofcourse you need to change the flags, but its pretty much the same yes
[05:08] <kaminix> zipper: Will it mount right everytime I turn the drive on or just when I start my laptop?
[05:08] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: does KDE not handle it?
[05:08] <someguy> juraj - I know but did you check the forums?
[05:08] <zipper> kaminix, depends on what you've set it to do
[05:08] <juraj> I have this "Connect to ppp0 via Modem" in my network manager
[05:08] <juraj> but it seems to do nothing
[05:09] <juraj> I have a passive ISDN card.
[05:09] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: No, it sets different dirs depending on what other USB drives I have connected.
[05:09] <kaminix> zipper: How do I set it to put it un one place each time I mount it?
[05:09] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: That's where udev kicks in...
[05:09] <someguy> juraj - ubuntu/kubuntu forums.
[05:09] <juraj> I wish ubuntu had yast, I only had to make a few clicks to set up the connections :)
[05:10] <juraj> yes, I checked the forums, no response yet
[05:10] <kaminix> MilhousePunkRock: You mean the UUID things?
[05:10] <box> quit
[05:10] <box> \quit
[05:10] <juraj> it's been a couple of days since I posted
[05:10] <Lynoure> box: the other slash :)
[05:10] <MilhousePunkRock> kaminix: No, udev rules based on info that does not change, among them the UID...
[05:11] <someguy> juraj,  try the mailing list and google
[05:11] <kaminix> How do I use it?
[05:11] <juraj> tried googling, I haven't found anything useful
[05:12] <juraj> and I don't want to compile all these modules as I already have them installed in the kernel
[05:17] <BFC> hi. i just installed xgl. I think everything went fine. How do i know if xgl is running?
[05:19] <juraj> you need XGL for compiz, right?
[05:19] <BFC> juraj; yeah
[05:19] <tobias_> juraj: definitly
[05:19] <SlimeyPe1e> or aiglx...
[05:19] <tobias_> ATI cards only work with xgl
[05:19] <tobias_> BFC:
[05:20] <tobias_> BFC: you need to choose xgl session when you login
[05:20] <BFC> tobias: where exactly do I do that from? I checked the kde login menu. there was no such option
[05:21] <tobias_> hehe yeh well it is hidde n;)
[05:21] <tobias_> BFC: on the left side from your textboxes there is a picture that looks like a dropdown menu
[05:21] <tobias_> klick on it -> session type -> xgl
[05:22] <BFC> tobias: I checked that. but here didn't seem to be the option
[05:22] <tobias_> then you didnt install xgl yet ?
[05:22] <tobias_> if you cant chose xgl there must be something wrong/missing
[05:23] <tobias_> did you create a " startxgl.sh " ?
[05:23] <SlimeyPe1e> probably a missing xsession file or something?
[05:23] <thehcdreamer> hello, how can I test my microphone? There's a program where i can do that?
[05:24] <SlimeyPe1e> grab jokosher or audacity and use them to record from it?
[05:24] <tobias_> thehcdreamer: just go into your sound-manager and enable the option that you hear your own input
[05:24] <tobias_> then activate microphone -> if you hear yourself it works :)
[05:24] <BFC> tobias: oh crap. i forgot to do that. I will try out and see what happens. thanks
[05:24] <tobias_> BFC: no problem =)
[05:24] <tobias_> BFC: good luck
[05:25] <someguy> jokosher - pffhhtt lol who are you Jono. lol
[05:25] <BFC> tobias: actually I adjusted my /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file
[05:25] <BFC> tobias: shouldn't that achieve the same thing?
[05:25] <SlimeyPe1e> someguy: nah... I don't have the beard
[05:26] <tobias_> BFC: eumm... actually I dont know~ I would just try doing the startxgl.sh thing and see if it works
[05:26] <someguy> lol or the personality lol
[05:26] <BFC> ok will do
[05:28] <dsl__> hi guys -new to this and just experimenting - want to c what this does
[05:30] <dsl__> re -the microphone check -if you can be bothered download skype and do a test call
[05:31] <yeniklasorr> Will dolphin be default file manager on KDE 4 ?
[05:31] <tom_> apparently
[05:31] <yeniklasorr> Kubuntu 7.10 will be released based KDE 4 ?
[05:32] <tom_> i think so
[05:32] <yeniklasorr> yep great
[05:35] <someguy> ok gotta run. everyone have a great day
[05:35] <tobias_> byebye someguy
[05:36] <egon> i have some problems with wine ... can someone give a german channel 4 it?
[05:36] <tobias_> tried kubuntu-de yet ?
[05:36] <tobias_> maybe they can help you with that
[05:36] <egon> ok i try thx
[05:38] <egon> can you gibt me the channel as a link?
[05:39] <tobias_> #kubuntu-de
[05:39] <tobias_> just do ./j #kubuntu-de without the dot
[05:40] <kaminix> Is there an option to tell mplayer to start like 2 seconds later than the video? In other words, play from 0:02 -> End?
[05:40] <Eeyore-Jr> kaminix: trying to miss the fbi warning :-)
[05:40] <egon> thx
[05:41] <kaminix> Eeyore-Jr: Haha, not this time. :p It's a set of music videos, and the first 2 seconds is a text introducing a set of videos. :p
[05:43] <kaminix> -sb <byte position> (also see -ss)
[05:43] <kaminix>               Seek to byte position.  Useful for playback from CD-ROM images or VOB files with junk at the beginning.
[05:43] <hydrogen> !xgl
[05:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:43] <kaminix> Could that be used?
[05:46] <mikearthur> how can I stop /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py starting on KDE startup? using kpowersave
[05:47] <egon> hello, i have a problem ... iam using kubuntu 64 bit and i have installed wine 64 bit ... than i have installed Warcraft 3 ... no problems, if i want to start warcraft 3 it dont boot the dist just say " no disk is there please insert" any ideas?
[05:49] <Blauhaut> hiya all
[05:49] <Blauhaut> guys how can i mount my external hdd
[05:49] <mariodo> oy guys ... hello ...
[05:49] <mikearthur> egon: you need a cd crack
[05:49] <trekdanne> egon: you might need to use a cd crack
[05:49] <mikearthur> #winehq
[05:49] <Blauhaut> !external
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about external - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <mariodo> can you help me? ... i don't know where i can get a linux-driver for my printer and scanner ... as you can see ... i'm just a beginner
[05:49] <trekdanne> mikearthur: im too slow :P
[05:50] <Fraction> quick question: when running "KDE start menu" -> system settings -> Monitor and display, the driver for the graphics card is wrong, when I press administrator mode and use "detect driver" and selects the corretc one. I cannot press "apply", why is that?
[05:50] <Blauhaut> How can i mount my external hdd
[05:51] <mariodo> *is waiting*
[05:51] <mikearthur> mariodo: be more patient
[05:51] <mikearthur> have you googled?
[05:52] <egon> way? on wine 32 bit i has worked without problems
[05:52] <Fraction> remember that ppl are just kind enough to help, its not like they are required to
[05:52] <egon> im using wine 0.9.43
[05:52] <trekdanne> Fraction: hmm you may want to consider doing that through the cli if you don't get it to work
[05:53] <Fraction> trekdanne: kk ty, will try
[05:53] <trekdanne> !nvidia | Fraction
[05:53] <ubotu> Fraction: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <egon> i have allthow use a crack but i cant play on battlenet
[05:53] <trekdanne> can perhaps be of some help
[05:53] <egon> -.- any help?
[05:53] <egon> please
[05:53] <Fraction> will check it out thanks ;)
[05:53] <trekdanne> egon: do you have the CD image mounted
[05:54] <Blauhaut> tobias_;  hiya :) you there ?
[05:54] <trekdanne> egon: nvm
[05:54] <egon> ???
[05:55] <mikearthur> egon: you can use a script
[05:55] <egon> i know but how?
[05:55] <mikearthur> pastebinning, 2m
[05:55] <tobias_> Blauhaut: hey :) Yes I am
[05:55] <Blauhaut> tobias_; i have a little problem , can you help me pls ?
[05:56] <tobias_> Blauhaut: depends :)
[05:56] <egon> i have used the crack of gamecopyworld
[05:56] <trekdanne> egon: you may want to ask in #winehq, they know more about this
[05:56] <mikearthur> egon: http://pastebin.com/d2d2ea08
[05:57] <Blauhaut> tobias_; i have a ntfs external hdd, i can mount it but can not see any directory or file
[05:57] <Blauhaut> tobias_; it says , i do not have permission to read
[05:57] <egon> and how i have to start it?
[05:57] <mikearthur> egon: chmod +x
[05:57] <mikearthur> egon: add #!/bin/sh to the top
[05:57] <egon> thx
[05:58] <tobias_> Blauhaut: eumm... I got to look for it myself but maybe I can find something :)
[05:58] <Blauhaut> tobias_; ok how can you check it ?
[05:59] <tobias_> Blauhaut: is fdisk -l showing you the hdd ?
[06:00] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | Blauhaut
[06:00] <ubotu> Blauhaut: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:00] <Blauhaut> tobias_; yes
[06:00] <Blauhaut>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:00] <Blauhaut> /dev/sdb1               1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTF
[06:00] <egon> chmod: Zugriff auf War3ROC nicht mglich: No such file or directory
[06:00] <egon> chmod: Zugriff auf 121 nicht mglich: No such file or directory
[06:00] <egon> chmod: Zugriff auf NO-CD nicht mglich: No such file or directory
[06:00] <egon> chmod: Zugriff auf Release.cmd nicht mglich: No such file or directory
[06:00] <egon> now?
[06:00] <egon> :(
[06:01] <tobias_> Blauhaut: did you mount it as root ?
[06:01] <tobias_> egon: pasting german words in an english-speaking channel doesnt really make much sense ?! ;)
[06:02] <murchadh> Blauhaut: : Can you become root in a terminal. If so do - ls
[06:02] <llutz> egon: escape the spaces in the filename
[06:02] <egon> xD
[06:02] <egon> right
[06:04] <murchadh> Blauhaut: If you can see your data as root then it's a permissions problem. Just need to adjust the mount command. Also you'll need the ntfs-3g drivers installed to write to an NTFS FS. Let us know if you can see dadt
[06:05] <murchadh> Blauhaut: Ooops - data!
[06:05] <egon> it wont work do i have to start it after i have started the game?
[06:05] <kaminix> "mplayer -dvd-device MYDVD.ISO dvd://2 -chapter 1-1 -ss 2 -dumpstream -dumpfile OUTPUT.VOB" <--- Why does it not cut off the first two seconds?
[06:06] <tobias_> murchadh: that would have been my next question if his hdd is NTFS formated ^_  you got it more detailed, thanks for that
[06:06] <egon> can someone give a Guidance
[06:06] <egon> ?
[06:06] <egon> i dont know how to start it or whre
[06:06] <murchadh> tobias_: Didn't mean to cut across you, I'm just in the door. :)
[06:07] <egon> *
[06:07] <egon>
[06:07] <egon> where
[06:07] <tobias_> murchadh: no please - you better take over his problems - I really appreciate your help ;D I am not that experienced with kubuntu/linux yet
[06:08] <egon> no idea?
[06:08] <tobias_> I'm just trying to help whereever I can ;)
[06:10] <egon> tobias: can you help me please?
[06:10] <murchadh> tobias_: No problem. He may actually be away or trying something else anyway.
[06:10] <tobias_> egon: what was your last question ?
[06:11] <tobias_> still concerning wine ?
[06:11] <egon> how i have to start it bevor or after i have start warcraft 3
[06:11] <egon> ?
[06:11] <tobias_> are you talking about wine? or what do you mean by "it" ?
[06:11] <egon> yes wine
[06:12] <kaminix> Really, this drives me crazy. Is there no way to delete the first 3 seconds when using -dumpstream with mplayer?
[06:12] <tobias_> what would be the idea behind starting the emulator after the program you want to emulate?
[06:12] <egon> hello, i have a problem ... iam using kubuntu 64 bit and i have installed wine 64 bit ... than i have installed Warcraft 3 ... no problems, if i want to start warcraft 3 it dont boot the dist just say " no disk is there please insert" any ideas?
[06:13] <egon> thats my problem no i have to use a crack and start a code
[06:13] <egon> start the code befor oder after i have start warcraft 3?
[06:13] <tobias_> the chmod -x code ?
[06:13] <tobias_> *+x
[06:13] <egon> yes
[06:13] <tobias_> before
[06:13] <tobias_> you only need to do it one time
[06:14] <egon> but how if i want start it there is always a error
[06:14] <egon> :(
[06:14] <tobias_> the missing cd error ?
[06:14] <tobias_> for what file did you set the chmod +x ?
[06:14] <egon> no a error that he cant start it ( the chmod )
[06:15] <Blauhaut> murchadh;
[06:15] <tobias_> what erro r?
[06:15] <tobias_> error
[06:15] <Blauhaut> root@selcuk-laptop:/dev# mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sanal -o force
[06:15] <Blauhaut> WARNING: Dirty volume mount was forced by the 'force' mount option.
[06:15] <Blauhaut> how can i clean the dirty volume =? :()
[06:15] <tobias_> Blauhaut: ^^
[06:16] <Blauhaut> tobias_;  :P
[06:16] <sander_> I tried to install KDE4 but I got some errors about unmet dependancies
[06:16] <sander_> I followed these instructions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[06:16] <egon>  No such file or directory
[06:17] <egon> do i have it in the warcraft 3
[06:17] <egon>
[06:17] <egon> file
[06:17] <tobias_> Blauhaut: is your windows-partition or whatever still connected to the hdd ?
[06:17] <egon> or on the desktop?
[06:18] <sander_> does anyone have experience with this?
[06:18] <tobias_> Blauhaut: I got the answer
[06:18] <Blauhaut> tobias_; no just linux
[06:18] <Blauhaut> tobias_; :)
[06:18] <tobias_> Blauhaut: just leave away the -o force
[06:18] <tobias_> because if you disconnected the hdd correctly (and i guess you never connected it before, so.. ^^) you dont need to force it
[06:18] <tobias_> and is should work fine :o
[06:18] <Blauhaut> root@selcuk-laptop:/dev# mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sanal
[06:18] <Blauhaut> Volume is scheduled for check. Please boot into Windows TWICE, or
[06:18] <Blauhaut> use the 'force' mount option. For example type on the command line:
[06:18] <Blauhaut>     mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sanal -o force
[06:18] <Blauhaut> Or add the option to the relevant row in the /etc/fstab file:
[06:18] <Blauhaut>     /dev/sdb1 /media/sanal ntfs-3g defaults,force 0 0
[06:18] <Blauhaut> root@selcuk-laptop:/dev#
[06:18] <Blauhaut> no it is not working :(
[06:19] <tobias_> asdf ._.
[06:19] <tobias_> shiet ^^
[06:19] <Blauhaut> tobias_;  and i do ntfsfix
[06:19] <Blauhaut> everything is ok no error
[06:20] <tobias_> mhhhm
[06:20] <Blauhaut> tobias_;  if i boot my hdd in windows twice
[06:20] <tarek_> hi peeps
[06:20] <Blauhaut> is it going to be ok ? :)
[06:21] <tobias_> well honestly I am not sure about that ;)
[06:21] <tobias_> but you should make sure your hdd is unmounted in windows
[06:21] <tarek_> i have a 32 Bit package, is there a way of compiling it into a 64bit one?
[06:21] <Blauhaut> tobias_; i  will try in windows than
[06:21] <murchadh> Blauhaut: Do you have a windows install? there is also a little problem I reported here before which is that the mount directory must be empty. In your case /media/sanal - just make sure it is actually empty - ls -als /media/sanal. If you have changed the default icon for the folder it will give errors. Otherwise you'll need to use ntfsfix or boot windows with this drive attached.
[06:21] <Blauhaut> :) tobias_ afk for 5 min
[06:21] <tobias_> okay =)
[06:22] <Blauhaut> murchadh; i make the directory sanal on media
[06:22] <sander_> I tried to install KDE4 but I got some errors about unmet dependancies.. is here someone who succesfully installed it?
[06:22] <sander_> I followed these instructions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[06:22] <Blauhaut> murchadh; my hdd device mount name is Philips :)
[06:22] <tobias_> murchadh: he said ntfsfix isnt messaging any errors
[06:22] <Blauhaut> root@selcuk-laptop:/dev# ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[06:22] <Blauhaut> Mounting volume... OK
[06:22] <Blauhaut> Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
[06:22] <Blauhaut> NTFS volume version is 3.1.
[06:22] <Blauhaut> Setting required flags on partition... OK
[06:22] <Blauhaut> Going to empty the journal ($LogFile)... OK
[06:22] <Blauhaut> NTFS partition /dev/sdb1 was processed successfully.
[06:22] <Blauhaut> root@selcuk-laptop:/dev# ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[06:22] <Blauhaut> Mounting volume... OK
[06:22] <Blauhaut> Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
[06:22] <Blauhaut> NTFS volume version is 3.1.
[06:23] <Blauhaut> Setting required flags on partition... OK
[06:23] <Blauhaut> Going to empty the journal ($LogFile)... OK
[06:23] <tobias_> Blauhaut: stop pasting
[06:23] <Blauhaut> NTFS partition /dev/sdb1 was processed successfully.
[06:23] <Blauhaut> root@selcuk-laptop:/dev#
[06:23] <tobias_> !pastebin
[06:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:23] <Blauhaut> tobias_; ups i am sorry for that
[06:23] <tobias_> ;)
[06:23] <Blauhaut> ok i will use it
[06:23] <tobias_> worked now?
[06:23] <Blauhaut> tobias_; what worked ? :)
[06:23] <tobias_> the ntfsfix ... just trying to hide my reado
[06:23] <tobias_> ;)
[06:23] <Blauhaut> tobias_;  it is just ntfsfix :)
[06:23] <tobias_> I know
[06:23] <tobias_> just ignore it
[06:24] <tobias_> ;)
[06:24] <egon> tobias_ now i have done it again now nothing happen i have tipe it to the konsole and nothing happend ... but it wont work :(
[06:24] <Blauhaut> tobias_;  i am afk now for connect and disconnect hdd to windoz several time
[06:25] <murchadh> Blauhaut: If there is a .directory file in the mount directory (which holds non-default icon info) it will also give this error. Please type ls -als /media/sanal and tell us the results.
[06:25] <tobias_> Blauhaut: okay, good luck - and... FYI: There is topic in a ubuntu bulletin from today... discussing the same thing - I will keep my eyes open :)
[06:26] <tobias_> but first listen to murchadh :D
[06:26] <Blauhaut> :)
[06:26] <Blauhaut> be there in 10 min
[06:26] <egon> soooo any ideas? it wont work :(
[06:27] <alyssa_> hammer?
[06:27] <tobias_> egon: sorry, absolutely no idea
[06:27] <murchadh> Blauhaut: When hes back. Try going through this page - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-484566.html! Thanks tobias_! :)
[06:27] <tarek_> guys is there a way to make a 64Bit package from a 32 bit?
[06:27] <alyssa_> (grin) install it twice?
[06:27] <egon> i have start it now in the terminal now there is no error nothing happen look:
[06:28] <alyssa_> sorry I'm leaving now
[06:28] <Sanne> tarek_: recompile
[06:28] <egon> egon@egon-laptop:~$ cd /home/egon/.wine/drive_c/ProgramFiles/WarcraftIII
[06:28] <egon> egon@egon-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/ProgramFiles/WarcraftIII$ sudo chmod +x War3ROC121NO-CDRelease.cmd
[06:28] <egon> egon@egon-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/ProgramFiles/WarcraftIII$ sudo chmod +x War3TFT121NO-CDRelease.cmd
[06:28] <egon> egon@egon-laptop:~/.wine/drive_c/ProgramFiles/WarcraftIII$
[06:28] <alyssa_> bye bye
[06:28] <tarek_> and how?
[06:28] <egon> rigth like this?
[06:28] <tarek_> Sanne: got any link?
[06:29] <Sanne> tarek_: if you have a 64 bit system running, you need to get the source and compile it. How depends on the software. Or you could just run it as 32 bit, which mostly works on 64bit systems. What application are you trying to run?
[06:29] <tarek_> 1 sec
[06:30] <tarek_> http://www.cadsoft.de/
[06:30] <tarek_> they have the tar files and rpms for it
[06:30] <Sanne> tarek_: I'm investigating
[06:30] <tarek_> Sanne: thanks
[06:31] <SoulChild> how do i deactivate UUID's in grub/menu.lst ??? tried already to change "kopt" to "/ev/hda3" but update-grub still puts the UUID's as device names , any help would be great !
[06:31] <tobias_> okay, I am afk. Good luck with your worries and problems everyone =)
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> SoulChild: i don't think you need to run update-grub when you change menu.lst
[06:33] <SoulChild> hitmanWilly: yes but whenever i make changes to the kernel i need to run it, or it is runed automaticlly when installing a new precompiled kernel
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> SoulChild: id say just make the changes and try a reboot to see if it worked
[06:33] <SoulChild> :( i think you didn't understand
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> SoulChild: it should automatically change menu.lst to reference the new kernel
[06:34] <Sanne> tarek_: from what I see, this doesn't seem to be software where you can get the source code. So you can't recompile. I think the best bet is to try the tgz since rpm is a foreign package format (which you *can* convert to deb, but I wouldn't recommend it). Is this the tgz file you got? eagle-lin-eng-4.16r2.tgz
[06:34] <SoulChild> hitmanWilly: you didn#t understand my problem ,... i don't want grub to use UUID's! Iwant it to put device names like "/dev/sda3"
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> SoulChild: ok, change menu.lst and reboot, it should work fine
[06:35] <tarek_> Sanne: no i got the rpm package
[06:36] <Sanne> tarek_: but this version? If so, I will try to install and run it, and if it works, help you with it (I'm on 64 bit also)
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> SoulChild: if you happen to see a kernel update come across, double check menu.lst and edit accordingly
[06:36] <tarek_> k thanks
[06:39] <Sanne> tarek_: getting it now. If it works, be prepared to also get the tgz, because I can't help with the rpm.
[06:39] <tarek_> k
[06:39] <tarek_> sanne:downloading it
[06:39] <Sanne> :)
[06:44] <danya> I'm trying to install java on a 64-bit feisty ..and I'm having problems can anyone help me ?
[06:45] <Sanne> tarek_: ok, it wants me to run an install script which, as I see by inspection, wants to put things in /usr. I don't want to let it do that as I keep manually installed software seperate from the packages governed by the package manager. But...
[06:45] <Sanne> tarek_: ... I just tried to run it without installation, and at least some project menager starts.
[06:47] <Sanne> tarek_: still with me?
[06:48] <escalona> hola cual es el canal en espaol?
[06:48] <tarek__> Sanne: sorry got dc
[06:48] <Sanne> tarek_: Oo.
[06:48] <llutz> !es | escalona
[06:48] <escalona> hola cual es el canal en espaol?
[06:48] <ubotu> escalona: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:48] <Sanne> tarek_: my last messages:
[06:48] <Sanne> tarek_: ok, it wants me to run an install script which, as I see by inspection, wants to put things in /usr. I don't want to let it do that as I keep manually installed software seperate from the packages governed by the package manager. But...
[06:48] <Sanne> tarek_: ... I just tried to run it without installation, and at least some project menager starts.
[06:49] <escalona> llutz: Thanks
[06:49] <tarek__> Sanne: ok so what is to do?
[06:50] <Sanne> tarek_: I would recommend: 1. also try to run it without install to see if it does at all. If not, I help you get it to run. 2. Install it regularly, but better change the install paths in the install script a bit. I help with that also. Ok?
[06:52] <tarek__> sanne: ok lets go
[06:52] <Sanne> tarek__: fine. First, extract the tgz to a temporary folder, can be in your home folder if you want.
[06:53] <tarek__> sanne: ok exracted
[06:53] <tarek__> sanne: now what?
[06:53] <Sanne> tarek_: next cd into the newly created folder, you should see a README file, an install file, and a bin directory (and some more). Is all there?
[06:54] <tarek__> sanne: yes README is there
[06:55] <Sanne> tarek_: now we try to start it. In a konsole window which working directory is the eagle folder, type: bin eagle
[06:55] <Sanne> tarek__: no!
[06:55] <Sanne> tarek__: bin/eagle
[06:55] <Sanne> sorry
[06:56] <tarek__> sanne: ok
[06:56] <Sanne> tarek_: does it start?
[06:57] <tarek__> sanne: no
[06:57] <tarek__> sanne:
[06:57] <tarek__> The program 'eagle' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[06:57] <tarek__> apt-get install eagle
[06:57] <tarek__> Make sure you have the 'multiverse' component enabled
[06:57] <tarek__> bash: eagle: command not found
[06:57] <Sanne> tarek_: please paste any error messages to ubuntu-nl.org
[06:57] <Sanne> tarek_: next time :)
[06:57] <tarek__> sanne: ah k
[06:58] <Sanne> tarek__: what does the command "pwd" say (paste in here, it's short)
[06:58] <tarek__> sanne: /home/tarek/Desktop/eagle-lin-eng-4.16r2/bin
[07:00] <Sanne> tarek_: doh! Eagle is in the repositories (as this message said)! I should have checked it. So, just install it via apt-get or adept.
[07:00] <Sanne> tarek_: in feisty it's version 4.16-3
[07:00] <tarek__> sanny: that is wierd
[07:00] <Sanne> tarek_: why?
[07:02] <tarek__> sanne thought that it wouldn never be there
[07:02] <Sanne> tarek_: an I looked for cadsoft, but didn't search for eagle.
[07:02] <kaminix> What filesystem is the img files k3b makes?
[07:02] <hitmanWilly> kaminix: probably iso
[07:03] <kaminix> hitmanWilly:  sudo mount -t iso9660 /media/sda5/k3b_0.img /media/cdrom -o loop <--- gives error
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> kaminix: ok, lemme check really quick...
[07:04] <llutz> kaminix: try -t auto
[07:04] <Sanne> tarek__: do you need any more help?
[07:04] <tarek__> sanne: how and where can i get the link to start it
[07:04] <Sanne> tarek__: did you install it via the package manager?
[07:04] <llutz> kaminix: or "file /media/sda5/k3b_0.img"
[07:05] <kaminix> Still no success llutz :(
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> kaminix: what does the file cmd return?
[07:06] <kaminix> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:06] <Sanne> tarek__: ?
[07:06] <tarek__> sanne:
[07:06] <tarek__> sanne: yes
[07:06] <llutz> kaminix: what does "file /media/sda5/k3b_0.img" say?
[07:07] <kaminix> alex@Hasokon:~$ file /media/sda5/k3b_0.img
[07:07] <kaminix> /media/sda5/k3b_0.img: data
[07:07] <Sanne> tarek__: it should be somewhere in your menu, but for now you can test by opening a new konsole and typing eagle (NOT the konsole opened before!)
[07:07] <tarek__> k thanks
[07:08] <Sanne> tarekworks?
[07:08] <Sanne> tarek__: works?
[07:08] <llutz> kaminix: then it isn't iso (maybe broken image?), it should report something like "...  ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data UDF filesystem data..."
[07:09] <kaminix> llutz: But k3b just made it and said it was fine :s