[12:42] <Torch> JuJuBee: you could try ~/.xsessionrc, but off the top of my head i'm not sure if that would not come to late.
[12:42] <Torch> s,to,too,
[12:42] <Torch> JuJuBee: brute force is something like /etc/environment
[12:42] <||arifaX> can I manually call the vpnc and openvpn helper scripts from the commandline?
[12:46] <Anubis> is anyone tried to install the latest drivers from nvidia on 10,04?
[12:46] <mrafv> Anubis: nvidia-current
[12:47] <shadeslayer> Anubis: just open jockey-kde and it should do the trick
[12:49] <Anubis> shadeslayer, mrafv: thanks
[12:50] <vadi01> can someone tell me how good 10.04 is?
[12:50] <vadi01> i plan to install it today
[12:51] <Anubis> vadi01: try it in a virtual machine.
[12:51] <JuJuBee> Torch: I will give it a try
[12:51] <mrafv> if you were using the ppa on karmic you won't notice much of a change
[12:52] <JuJuBee> shadeslayer: what is jockey-kde?
[12:53] <vadi01> ah yea virtual machine
[12:53] <JuJuBee> is it like envy?
[12:54] <vadi01> by the way whats the difference between kvm and virtual machine
[12:54] <a_h_roth> JuJuBee: jockey-kde detects your hardware that might need a non free driver to work properly.  Like closed nvidia drivers.
[12:54] <pookito> Hi everyone, is ubuntuone working with the new release of kubuntu?
[12:55] <a_h_roth> JuJuBee: It also recommends which driver to use for full effect.
[12:55] <shadeslayer> !jockey | JuJuBee
[12:55] <shadeslayer> meh...
[12:55] <mrafv> !superkaramba
[12:56] <mrafv> you lie ubottu: it's broken
[12:56] <JuJuBee> a_h_roth: thanks, I ran it  and it is installing the drivers... I just installed 10.04rc 2 days ago.  System settings did a good job with display, but it didn't seem to stick.  I use twinview
[12:56] <Torch> JuJuBee: nvidias binary blob does not fully support xrandr. use their config tool for setup.
[12:57] <JuJuBee> Thats what I used with 9.x  so will this grab that tool for me also?
[12:58] <JuJuBee> Wow, the install is verrrrrrryyyyyy slow.... running for 4 minutes and only 13% done...
[12:58] <JuJuBee> fsck is faster... :)
[12:59] <JuJuBee> Do I need to install mp3 support still for amarok to work on my mp3s out of the box?
[12:59] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: how are you installing?
[13:00] <JuJuBee> shadeslayer: nvidia drivers?  using jockey-kde
[13:01] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: oh youre saying that installing the drivers is slow?
[13:01] <JuJuBee> yes
[13:01] <JuJuBee> at 27% now...
[13:02] <pookito> can someone tell if ubuntuone is working with the new release of kubuntu?
[13:02] <tsimpson> you need to use the ubuntu packages (as there is no KDE package yet)
[13:03] <pookito> I know, I installed all the packages but it comes up and then is gone
[13:03] <tsimpson> there should be an icon in the tray I think
[13:03] <pookito> well, thanks anyways
[13:03] <pookito> :D
[13:05] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: oh itll take some time to download the drivers
[13:05] <JuJuBee> Why so long?  just the number of people upgrading ?
[13:06] <JuJuBee> I downloaded the kubuntu iso faster than this...
[13:06] <moetunes> JuJuBee: the servers always are overloaded after a new release
[13:07] <JuJuBee> Oh, I thought they would come from nvidia servers...  It's ok, I can wait...  Thanks for the help.
[13:07] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: um actually no,theyre from the ubuntu servers
[13:08] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: i prefer doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-current...
[13:08] <Matisse> spirov92, did the links help?
[13:08] <JuJuBee> Im just glad I got 10 working.  The live CD wasn't working and I tried installing alernate.  that did not work initiially.  Turns out my problem was related to a conflict with a bluetooth wireless adapter for my smartboard (classroom interactive whiteboard)
[13:08] <JuJuBee> shadeslayer: I know for next time.
[13:09] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:09] <saintly> Upgrade to 10.04 done
[13:09] <calumayoo> will sudo aptitude upgrade upgrade my 9.10 to 10.04?
[13:09] <shadeslayer> calumayoo: no
[13:09] <moetunes> !upgrade
[13:09] <saintly> now i cant locate any of my drivers, i have no sound at all
[13:10] <spirov92> Matisse: yea, it's downloading stuff right now...sadly my connection is tragic, it's 50kbps and only works half of the time
[13:10] <calumayoo> okay
[13:10] <shadeslayer> calumayoo: if you want a command line upgrade do : do-release-upgrade
[13:10] <JuJuBee> Since I installed 10.04 rc, I don't need to reinstall the final release, correct?  regular apt-get update/upgrades will bring me up to date?
[13:10] <saintly> can anyone help me with my sound issues?
[13:11] <ShishKabab> Hi. I'm having some Akonadi issues after distribution upgrade to 10.04 which make KMail crash. Here's the relevant part of the Akonadi self test. The rest of them are successful. http://pastebin.com/XpgDSWX6
[13:11] <Matisse> spirov92, stay tuned :)
[13:11] <shadeslayer> ShishKabab: this is a known issue,read the release notes :)
[13:12] <saintly> maybe i just need to reinstall the drivers? im lost
[13:12] <moetunes> saintly: does   aplay -l   list the card?
[13:12] <saintly> aplay?
[13:12] <shadeslayer> saintly: in a konsole do : aplay -l
[13:13] <moetunes> saintly: it is a command line app - open konsole and type   aplay -l   it should show the card
[13:13] <kramerstefan> hi, since my laptop did a suspend today, I can not reach the network any more
[13:13] <kramerstefan> knetworkmanager says that network management is disabled
[13:13] <ShishKabab> shadeslayer: You mean http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-release ?
[13:14] <shadeslayer> ShishKabab: yes
[13:14] <kramerstefan> any idea how I could solve that problem?
[13:14] <shadeslayer> kramerstefan: yeah that happened to me too,i installed plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[13:14] <saintly> moetunes, how do i get tht last symbol, is it -|?
[13:15] <moetunes> saintly: it is a lower case L
[13:15] <moetunes> l for list
[13:15] <kramerstefan> shadeslayer: and that did solve the problem?
[13:16] <shadeslayer> kramerstefan: yes :)
[13:16] <saintly> moetunes, card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 0: ALC269 Analog [ALC269 Analog]
[13:16] <saintly>   Subdevices: 1/1
[13:16] <saintly>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:16] <saintly> card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 3: INTEL HDMI [INTEL HDMI]
[13:16] <saintly>   Subdevices: 1/1
[13:16] <FloodBotK3> saintly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <saintly>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:16]  * shadeslayer downloads SRU updates
[13:17] <calumayoo> shadeslayer: do-release-upgrade only or sudo aptitude do-release-upgrade?
[13:17] <saintly> O.o
[13:17] <vadi01> has this bug been fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/551290
[13:17] <shadeslayer> calumayoo: sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:17] <kramerstefan> shadeslayer: ok, so i'll try :-)
[13:18] <shadeslayer> vadi01: its in lucid-proposed
[13:18] <moetunes> saintly: there is a website to help setting sound up - click on this link
[13:18] <moetunes> !sound | saintly
[13:18] <saintly> ok
[13:18] <ShishKabab> shadeslayer: I already tried to reboot the whole PC (which includes Akonadi), but KMail hangs now after popping up a KWallet dialog.
[13:18] <saintly> ty
[13:18] <moetunes> np
[13:19] <vadi01> shadeslayer: what does that mean? sorry am new in kununtu
[13:19] <shadeslayer> vadi01: ok,it means that it is in the repo named lucid proposed updates and will be moved to lucid updates after proper testing :)
[13:20] <shadeslayer> ShishKabab: hmm...its probably a akonadi bug...
[13:20] <calumayoo> shadeslayer: thanks... ill do it after the the upgrade...
[13:21] <shadeslayer> ShishKabab: http://launchpad.net/bugs/564263
[13:21] <vadi01> shadeslayer: can i just use it from the lucid-proposed repo then? if yes then all i have to do is just enable the updates testing repo right?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> calumayoo: uhh..
[13:21] <calumayoo> ?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> calumayoo: that command upgrades you to 10.04
[13:22] <calumayoo> yeah... i have already keyed in the aptitude upgrade
[13:22] <shadeslayer> you can exit that...
[13:22] <calumayoo> gotta wait for at least 30 mins to do the do-release-upgrade
[13:22] <shadeslayer> press ctrl+C
[13:22] <calumayoo> really?
[13:22] <calumayoo> it wont do harm?
[13:22] <shadeslayer> calumayoo: nope
[13:22] <calumayoo> thanks
[13:23] <shadeslayer> calumayoo: what aptitude does is download the packages and THEN install them,you can safely exit during the download stage
[13:23] <calumayoo> i see. thanks
[13:25] <shadeslayer> np
[13:25] <JuJuBee> Should I install sun's java or open?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: i would suggest open if you dont use java alot
[13:26] <shadeslayer> and it works for you perfectly
[13:26] <JuJuBee> I don't, but I use eclipse and it needs it.
[13:26] <tsimpson> the open java really should be able to do mostly everything the closed java can
[13:26] <ubuntu___> italiani?
[13:26] <tsimpson> and, you can even file bugs against the open version! ;)
[13:27] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:27] <tsimpson> !it | ubuntu___
[13:27] <JuJuBee> tsimpson: thanks
[13:28] <Matisse> After logging in there's always this upgrade-to-10.4-hint. how do i remove it permanently?
[13:31] <tsimpson> Matisse: not sure, maybe #kubuntu-devel knows
[13:32] <kramerstefan> shadeslayer: it works! thank you:)
[13:36] <calumayoo> !ms office
[13:36] <calumayoo> !microsoft office
[13:36] <wtfplymouth> does somone know how to ignore mount errors during boot?
[13:41] <wtfplymouth> does somone know how to ignore mount errors during boot?
[13:41] <shadeslayer> wtfplymouth: i wouldnt do that...
[13:42] <wtfplymouth> shadeslayer: i need to do it. i added custom entries for usb disks and they arent always connected. (its ubuntu server)
[13:43] <shadeslayer> wtfplymouth: you mean in /etc/fstab ? well if it doesnt find them,does it not skip them>
[13:43] <wtfplymouth> the probelm is that the boot stops and i cannot login with ssh
[13:44] <wtfplymouth> yes in fstab. 9.10 booted with errors
[13:44] <wtfplymouth> in 10.04 you have to press s to skip
[13:44] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:45] <anj> Possibly stupid question follows: I've been using Lucid for a while... aren't there any upgrades now that 10.04 is released?
[13:45] <shadeslayer> wtfplymouth: well all i know is that mountall is responsible for mounting the disks
[13:45] <shadeslayer> anj: why would there be?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> anj: i think there is a day 0 update for grub...
[13:46] <anj> shadeslayer: because I would have thought the release version would be different from the RC
[13:47] <Pici> !final
[13:47] <shadeslayer> anj: well it usually isnt :) , the archive is frozen just before RC
[13:47] <shadeslayer> ah nice, theres a factiod about it :P
[13:47] <anj> shadeslayer: oh, ok. so basically the Kubuntu I have now is "meant" to be more or less the Kubuntu I had a week ago.
[13:48] <anj> too bad, I was hoping for a final batch of fixes
[13:48] <shadeslayer> anj: yes,thats the point of freezing the archives,so that the devs dont upload any more fixes which might break more stuff than they fix :P
[13:49] <calumayoo> !repos
[13:51] <anj> I see... may have to tinker more and/or file more bug reports after all.
[13:51] <Catchief> Hi everyoune =) I upgraded my Kubuntu yesterday and now i dont have any sound in flash videos like on youtube. Anyone has a clue how to fix it?
[13:56] <saintly> alright i need someoen who knows a lil somethin bout sound
[13:56] <FinnArild> So ...
[13:56] <FinnArild> KDE crashes after login - which logfile should I peek at?
[13:56] <saintly> my codec file online is missing the modules for ALC269, as well as all the other modules
[13:57] <saintly> i need this>>>>Codec: Realtek ALC269
[13:58] <saintly> without this it would appear sound wont come back.
[13:59] <saintly> Also within 10.04 i cant find the channels listing that will alow me to change the card order, as it was with 9.10
[14:00] <saintly> !sound
[14:01] <saintly> still stuck
[14:01] <saintly> is ther anyone home amongst the 290 ppl online?
[14:02] <moetunes> saintly: it's a matter of being familiar with your prob - I'll have a quick google for you
[14:02] <saintly> oh okkies
[14:03] <saintly> i used ur sound truoble shooting, and this is where i got, so im enlightend on the issue, just now i know im stuck.
[14:04] <FinnArild> hm
[14:04] <FinnArild> I wonder - if I delete my .kde file after upgrading - maybe that will help?
[14:04] <moetunes> http://michaelminn.com/linux/toshiba-u505/ gives a how to for that card half way down
[14:04] <moetunes> saintly: ^^
[14:04] <saintly> alright tyy
[14:04]  * FinnArild can't try it out since this is on the media pc and his wife is currently hugging the TV
[14:05] <saintly> moetunes: will this file work for a Dell Mini too you think?
[14:05] <moetunes> saintly: if it is the same card the rest of the system doesn't matter
[14:06] <zus> where do i find the repositories? and stff for dvd and so on?
[14:07] <saintly> alright bbl
[14:07] <moetunes> luck
[14:09] <zus> where do i find the repositories for lucid, (reword mysefl)
[14:10] <Alienarch> Anyone know what program association I set for .apt files?
[14:10] <moetunes> zus: trying to upgrade by changing the sources.list file?
[14:11] <zus> moetunes,  no fresh install of 10.4. i forgot to save my book marks but they were all ubuntu karmic links anyways..
[14:12] <moetunes> !repos | zus this should have them
[14:13] <zus> moetunes,  thasnk
[14:13] <moetunes> np
[14:14] <basajaun> after upgrade to 10.04 windows do not cover all screen anymore ideas?
[14:18] <pookito> Not too long ago I finished downloading UNR, and the usb creator from kubuntu can not read the image file.  It is a ".img"
[14:18] <pookito> Any reason why?
[14:19] <pookito> Anyone please?
[14:19] <moetunes> pookito: are you talking about unetbootin?
[14:20] <moetunes> !unr
[14:20] <pookito> thanks for answering.  But no.  I downloaded an .img file from ubuntu it was the netbook version.  when I use the "usb creator" it does not work
[14:20] <moetunes> will have a link for using the .img
[14:20] <moetunes>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR
[14:23] <pookito> Thanks Moetunes, but I did that.  for some reason the .img file does not want to be read by the "usb creator"  that came preinstall with kubuntu
[14:24] <pookito> Moetunes: i tried it with unetbooting and still did not work.  I did a little research before I got here.  Is there anything else that I am not doing right? or missing?
[14:24] <moetunes> pookito: I've never tried the unr but believe there is an ubuntu app for putting the .img on usb
[14:25] <zus> moetunes,  i guess what i meant to ask was will i be using the karmic ppa's and  repositories or is there a lucid one? i found this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[14:25] <pookito> moetunes: yes there is, I thought it was the "usb-creator" but it does not work? :(
[14:25] <moetunes> pookito: afaik there is an app solely for the unr .img
[14:26] <moetunes> zus: since lucid is released I thought that link would point you to lucids repos...
[14:27] <zus> moetunes,  it jujst explained how to add them.
[14:27] <Kriss3d> Hi. Has anyone had problems with black screen after showing kubuntu logo after upgrading to 10.04 ?
[14:28] <syon> finally the upgrad finnished. just one glitch so far: with LUKS (and LVM) there is no splash, but rather just a text mode prompt for my password input
[14:28] <syon> any pointers?
[14:28] <Kriss3d> syon,  well i havent tried the new 10.04 yet but the login manager should give you an option for it
[14:28] <Kriss3d> for logging on via a gui
[14:30] <moetunes> zus: the upgrade should have changed the repos listed in the package manager for you and medibuntu is the same for all afaik
[14:30] <moetunes> !medibuntu
[14:31] <zus> thanks again
[14:31] <moetunes> Kriss3d: sounds like your missing drivers for your vid card
[14:32] <Kriss3d> yeah thats what i thought as well.. however the ubuntu 9.10 (kubuntu) worked out of the box..
[14:32] <Kriss3d> im not having much success with graphics drivers and how to install them.
[14:32] <moetunes> Kriss3d: you can login and check the X log to find out what;s up
[14:32] <moetunes> what's*
[14:33] <Kriss3d> well its not my computer and the computer is across the contry.. so im not sitting at it.. not making that easier either.. but aparently it shows the kubuntu logo then stops.. not freezing but just sorta hangs
[14:33] <Kriss3d> i need to find a way to at least get to a login screen in terminal
[14:34] <calumayoo> !palyonlinux
[14:34] <wtfplymouth> after trying 2 hours of skipping mountig errors during boot im giving up and using debian on my server
[14:34] <moetunes> Kriss3d: they could press   ctrl+alt+f2   login and do   cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less   to find the error
[14:35] <moetunes> wtfplymouth: something wasn't setup right?
[14:36] <Kriss3d> moetunes,  ty. ill be sure to pass that along and see if it will let him go to that.. alt crtl F2.. isnt athat just switching to another terminal ? wouldnt crtl alt F1 work as well ? cause thats not working
[14:36] <wtfplymouth> moetunes: sure i have a wrong fstab entry but i want it to skip this one automatically at boot and not to stop the boot
[14:36] <Kriss3d> or did i miss somthing ? like the first terminal is the gui ?
[14:36] <moetunes> Kriss3d: f prob would be ok
[14:37] <moetunes> wtfplymouth: but /proc and /sys are mounted from fstab iirc
[14:37] <moetunes> Kriss3d: f1 prob would be ok I meant
[14:38] <wtfplymouth> moetunes: its just an entry for an usb disk which isnt connected
[14:39] <Kriss3d> well i was told that F1 didnt do anything..
[14:39] <wtfplymouth> moetunes: 9.10 booted anyway
[14:39] <moetunes> wtfplymouth: normally if an fstab mount isn't available it just gets skipped
[14:39] <Kriss3d> but ill just see what works.. hopfully i can get it into recovery mode.
[14:39] <moetunes> Kriss3d: sorry - f1 was short for ctrl+alt+f1
[14:39] <wtfplymouth> moetunes: normally, but not in 10.04
[14:40] <moetunes> o
[14:40] <Kriss3d> yeah.. i know what you meant.. but i was told earlier today that ctrl alt f1 didnt do anything..
[14:40] <Kriss3d> but ill see what works later when i talk to the owner again
[14:41] <moetunes> Kriss3d: maybe with kdm running and using its' internal xorg.conf the keyboard is borked
[14:41] <wtfplymouth> moetunes: the problem is that it stops the boot and i cnnot login with ssh
[14:41] <Kriss3d> well if it at least will boot up i should be able to get it working again without having to do a fresh install
[14:42] <moetunes> Kriss3d: try the recovery boot option - it is cli
[14:42] <Kriss3d> isnt ctrl alt f1 the recovery ?
[14:42] <Kriss3d> otherwise i dont know how to get it into that
[14:43] <moetunes> Kriss3d: no - just a tty/cli
[14:43] <moetunes> Kriss3d: hit shift at boot
[14:43] <Kriss3d> ah yeah.. im on a windows now.. sadly wine + this laptop + wow isnt really running well
[14:43] <Kriss3d> moetunes,  ty ill tell him to do that
[14:43] <moetunes> wtfplymouth: don't know what else to say except bummer...:[
[14:44] <moetunes> Kriss3d: if the grub menu shows at boot it should be an option
[14:44] <wtfplymouth> moetunes: ill give this problem 1 more hour of trying but without skipping ubuntu is useless for me
[14:44] <Kriss3d> oh cripes.. im not good with grub..
[14:45] <joshjensen> hi all
[14:47] <Cookiekiller> hi, I am looking for a guy which attended at the clt 2010 in germany, is he here?
[14:49] <calumayoo> !canonical
[14:51] <spirov92> btw the upgrade procedure seems to be going well, except for the totally wrong remaining time (showing about an hour...for the last 2.5 hours)
[14:52] <spirov92> btw a n00bish question..what does TLS mean?
[14:52] <spirov92> LTS*
[14:52] <ForgeAus> hmmm...
[14:52] <ForgeAus> !lts
[14:53] <syon> Kris3d: I was talking about the plymouth splash
[14:53] <calumayoo> !aptitude
[14:53] <syon> Kris3d: I doubt I can configure that in my login manager
[14:53] <mindspin> Hi,I'm running 9.10with kde3.x on sda1 and regular 9.10 un sda5, today I upgraded 9.10 on sda5 to have a look on the new release.
[14:53] <ForgeAus> hehe *apt*ly named that aptitude survival guide :)
[14:54] <mindspin> I'd like to set kde 3.x on sda1 as default system, but /boot/menu.lst vanished :-(
[14:54] <calumayoo> the upgrades taking very long
[14:55] <fanti> hello, i just made a dist-upgrade (kubuntu) to lucid. all worked fine so far but the splash-screen at boot time looks very ugly. too large fonts, can't read the cryptsetup line to enter the disk password
[14:55] <mindspin> after installing  Startup manager no change is done, the system boots 10.04 on default any hinds, how to set sda1 i.e. kde3.x as default boot system?
[14:55] <moetunes> !grub2 | mindspin this is how it is done now
[14:57] <mindspin> very userfriendly ;-) on my old system I just had to set the number, or uncomment the system not needed
[14:58] <moetunes> mindspin: ubuntu is set up for linux newbies to be able to use - grub2 was an effort to help in that afaik
[14:59] <mindspin> adding and editing scripots sounds not userfriendly to me
[15:00] <mindspin> if startupmanageer would do its job, it would be nice for newbies...
[15:01] <moetunes> mindspin: I agree but those new to linux don't do that - and it really is just which files you edit that has changed
[15:03] <calumayoo> !upgrade time
[15:05] <||arifaX> I need program kdcop and I cannot find it anywhere. I need a graphical dcop browser
[15:06] <calumayoo> !dcop
[15:07] <spirov92> yay, a minute remaining of the upgrade
[15:08] <calumayoo> lol, im in the unpacking phase, dunno when this would en
[15:08] <moetunes> ||arifaX: nothing in   apt-cache search kdcop   ?
[15:09] <moetunes> !find kdcop
[15:10] <||arifaX> ubottu: nothing
[15:10] <||arifaX> ubottu:  will try the dev package
[15:10] <||arifaX> oh
[15:10] <moetunes> !bot
[15:11] <zus> how can i change the kmenu to display  by the program name again?
[15:26] <calumayoo> how do i know that the upgrade to 10.4 in the terminal is done?
[15:26] <calumayoo> will it automatically restart?
[15:32] <FOAD> Hi, how do I enable compositing (nvidia) in 10.04?
[15:33] <xrfang> is there any program in KDE to view overall hardware information? I am particularly interested in the video card model and driver I am using. thanks
[15:35] <tsimpson> xrfang: kinfocenter
[15:35] <xrfang> tsimpson: thanks
[15:39] <xrfang> my kubuntu is using a driver called radaeon (DRI R300 Project), and I am using ati Xpress 200M card. Is this the opensource driver or not?
[15:40] <genii> Is there some note in dmesg output like "taints the kernel" ?
[15:43] <tsimpson> yes, the "radeon" driver is the open source one
[15:46] <phoenix_> hello everyone
[15:46] <phoenix_> i have an problem when installing nvidia driver
[15:48] <phoenix_> here is the error log -->http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ynveBr7G
[15:48] <phoenix_> can anyone help me
[15:49] <tsimpson> I don't see the error
[15:49] <tsimpson> "Your X configuration file has been successfully updated.  Installation of the NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 (version: 195.36.24) is now complete"
[15:51] <phoenix_> tsimpson: i tried a command that override the default settings, it installs correctly, after i try to start xserver it says its not able to find the driver
[15:53] <moderndayzero> hello is anyone here familiar with console emulators for linux?
[15:53] <phoenix_> tsimpson: where can i find the xorg log
[15:54] <moderndayzero> isnt that in the 40_custom folder?
[15:54] <tsimpson> phoenix_: in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[15:56] <phoenix_> tsimpson: check this out-->http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/2ssXZN0v
[15:56] <phoenix_> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[15:57] <calumayoo> yey, restart now
[15:58] <tsimpson> I've never tried to install the nvidia driver, so I can't really help
[15:58] <phoenix_> tsimpson: ok
[15:58] <tsimpson> phoenix_: you'll probably get more help in #ubuntu than here
[15:58] <phoenix_> tsimpson: ok i will try that
[15:59] <vadi01> phoenix_: did you manually install the driver?
[16:00] <vadi01> phoenix_: by downloading it from nvidia site?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> howdy
[16:06] <blendmaster1024> hey all ... is this (http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty) possible for 10.04?
[16:06] <blendmaster1024> or do i need to compile from source?
[16:08] <blendmaster1024> i would assume from experience that i can just use the karmic mirror and it will work for lucid
[16:09] <genii> blendmaster1024: Perhaps check out http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/
[16:10] <genii> blendmaster1024: Remember that KDE3 series is not supported after 8.04
[16:10] <blendmaster1024> yeah, i know
[16:10] <blendmaster1024> this is just an awesome hack :)
[16:17] <Kriss3d> moetunes, still here ?
[16:18] <zus> i would like to use a dock,  can any one suggest a decent one for kubuntu?
[16:19] <blendmaster1024> zus: i like cairo dock, note that it needs a compositing window manager, aka desktop effects
[16:19] <blendmaster1024> works in all versions of ubuntu and very themeable
[16:19] <Kriss3d> Anyone had problems with graphics not working in kubuntu 10.04 but working out of the box in 9.10 ?
[16:20] <zus> blendmaster1024,  with cairo dock i can still use kwin or will i need compiz?
[16:20] <blendmaster1024> zus: kwin is fine, as long as effects are enabled
[16:20] <ryrych> hi there!
[16:20] <blendmaster1024> Kriss3d: i've had that before, but with the upgrade from jaunty to karmic
[16:20] <moderndayzero> hello is anyone here familiar with gameconsole emulators for linux? or can direct me in the right direction?
[16:21] <Kriss3d> blendmaster1024,  well since he got a pirate version of my disc.  I know its 9.10 koala he was using before upgrading to 10.40
[16:21] <Kriss3d> 10.04.
[16:21] <blendmaster1024> Kriss3d: pirate version????
[16:22] <blendmaster1024> of kubuntu? what!?
[16:22] <Kriss3d> well he copied my dis..
[16:22] <ryrych> I upgraded to 10.04 flawlessly but it tourned out I have no audio. I forgot the command to search for devices in alsa - can you prompt it?
[16:22] <blendmaster1024> oh that's not pirating
[16:22] <blendmaster1024> kubuntu is free, that's not jsut acceptable but encouraged
[16:22] <zus> thanks i used cairo on ubuntu but  found i was using gnome do  and  docky much more
[16:22] <Kriss3d> well.. im too used to having to work with windows enviroment i guess. ( bloddy WoW wont run properly on this laptop)
[16:22] <blendmaster1024> zus: docky works on kde as well
[16:22] <Kriss3d> blendmaster1024,  belive me.. i spread the linux wherever i go..
[16:23]  * blendmaster1024 has to migrate to another HD, this one is failing badly
[16:23] <blendmaster1024> later
[16:23] <moderndayzero> you try WoW through Playinlinux?
[16:23] <zus> blendmaster1024,  im getting used to alt-f2 actually
[16:24] <Kriss3d> moderndayzero,  i can run wow.. but after a while it crashes..
[16:24] <rackIT> JMG$1969
[16:24] <Kriss3d> and it takes me through the entire thing for recovering.. it crashes linux itself.. complete freeze
[16:25] <moderndayzero> im looking to put all my consoles on here using the linux versions instead of the windows versions myself and not having alot of luck
[16:25] <moderndayzero> what are you running it through
[16:25] <zus> it isnt being found  when i use the terminal
[16:26] <Kriss3d> i used to run WoW i Wine
[16:27] <Kriss3d> Its basicly the only thing that keeps me from dumping even Windows 7 though its not that bad for a windows
[16:28] <dominicdinada_> dump wow save money and your social life
[16:28] <dominicdinada_> ^^ souunds like a win win
[16:29] <pa1983> Is USB_Modeswitch included in the new Kubuntu 10.04 LTS? My friend wants to use a Huawei e1750. Just curious. I can set it up ither way but I know him. if he reinstalls he cant install anyting manualy and well i would like it to be idiot safe so to speak before I recomend that he uses the new ubuntu version on his new laptop.
[16:29] <kde185> I can't install 10.04 netbook, the installer keeps hanging at 47% where it says "Scanning Discs".  anyone here having the same issues?
[16:29] <moderndayzero> mmo's arnt bad i use to play them on weekdays when i got home from work and party on the weekends
[16:30] <kde185> I'm on an eee 1000
[16:30] <mischdele> kde185: exact same problem here with the desktop/alternate 64 bit version - on a normal desktop pc
[16:30] <dominicdinada_> some people play it with bad results haha they had a show about it
[16:30] <moderndayzero> oh im sure lol
[16:31] <moderndayzero> and southpark LOL @ that episode
[16:31] <kde185> mischdele: I found a bug report outlining the issue, let me go find it...
[16:31] <moderndayzero> BAFFROOM BAFFROOM MOM! BAFFROOM!
[16:31] <dominicdinada_> it was more so talking about how WOW consumed their lives haha
[16:31] <dominicdinada_> nerd rage at its best
 !ot
[16:32] <kde185> mischdele: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/448316
[16:32] <Pici> !ot
[16:32] <dominicdinada_> !nerd rage
[16:32] <dominicdinada_> :('
[16:32] <mischdele> kde185: ah thanks - will have a look
[16:33] <kde185> mischdele: I think the short of it is that you should use the alternate installation disc, unfortunately I don't think there is an alt image for the netbook remix
[16:33] <mischdele> kde185: hm, i already tried using the alternate disc - with no success either...
[16:35] <kde185> mischdele: are you on 64 bit?
[16:35] <mischdele> kde185: yap
[16:36] <mischdele> kde185: i'm currently testing if this also happens with a ubuntu-32-bit-version
[16:36] <ryrych> after upgrade to 10.04 audio stopped working; aplay shows nothing special - it's playing in "silence"; can you help me?
[16:37] <kde185> mischdele: do you have a wireless card?
[16:38] <saintly> has anyone had choppy vid issues with 10.04?
[16:39] <saintly> ryrych i want ur question answered too, having same issue.
[16:39] <mischdele> kde185: no, only a normal ethernet card - btw, the problems also occurs in ubuntu 32 bit :)
[16:39] <saintly> choppy vid issues anyone? suck as youtube, movie streaming...
[16:39] <saintly> such*
[16:40] <ryrych> saintly: uff... at least I'm not alone :)
[16:42] <saintly> lol right! i think my trouble MIGHT be a driver screwing up, but ALSA seems to be conviently missing my codec "Realtek ALC269"
[16:42] <kde185> mischdele: I'm looking through my dmesg output, but I don't see anything that really raises any flags.  How bout you?
[16:42] <moderndayzero> so im not wasting anyones time, does anyone here have nes,snes,n64,gba,sega.psx,ps2,dolphin,etc...... on 10.4 or familiar with the install/setups?
[16:43] <saintly> Again, anyone have experience with Choppy vid issues...
[16:43] <saintly> it looks like its frame dropping almost
[16:44] <kde185> I've had plenty of experience with choppy video, standard linux feature
[16:44] <kde185> *ducks*
[16:44] <saintly> well capn howd ya fix it
[16:44] <kde185> in my experience you don't fix it
[16:44] <kde185> that's just life
[16:44] <saintly> ive seen places onlie where programs are uninstalled, and the vid detail has improved.
[16:45] <ryrych> saintly: my audio: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[16:45] <ryrych> saintly: can't remember which Realtek it was
[16:45] <saintly> ryrych, do like i did and just make sure that 10.04 still supports your card.
[16:45] <saintly> !sound
[16:45] <saintly> use the trouble shooting one
[16:46] <saintly> it takes like 8 min to run it thru and see whats the issue, if there is one
[16:46] <saintly> if you get stuck come find me ill help u thru it
[16:47] <mischdele> kde185: i had two cd/dvd drives connected to my pc and now disconnected the one with no disc in it - seems to have fixed it for me! :)
[16:47] <saintly> :D
[16:47] <ryrych> saintly: ah, it seems my upgrade wasn't complete! I did it with kpackage kit in night - went to bed; now run apt-get dist-upgrade and it shows it is not complete! :)
[16:47] <mischdele> kde185: but i've still no clue why ...
[16:48] <kde185> mischdele: wow nice, unfortunately I don't have any optical drives plugged in
[16:48] <saintly> hmm wonder if thatll help me
[16:48] <mischdele> kde185: hmm - seems to be a rather strange issue...
[16:49] <lusum> hi
[16:49] <saintly> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[16:49] <lusum> how to manage upstart services in kubuntu??
[16:49] <ghoulsblade> hi all, just upgraded from 9.10 to 10.4 , but something went wrong, kde is all black background, no tasklist, no startmenu, no desktop/plasma etc. i already deleted my ~/.kde file, but it didn't help.   i accidentally pressed ctrl+c during some config diff shown in the cleanup step, wanted to copy the output but ended up intererrupting it. not sure, maybe it was some kde config in etc ?. it went on rebooting afterwards. can i repeat/contin
[16:49] <ghoulsblade> ue that step somehow ? any help welcome =)
[16:50] <saintly> what!
[16:50] <zus> i can not  get the magnifier square to pop up when i hit meta +/_ how do i get that back? in 10.4
[16:50] <saintly> sooo who wants to downgrade to 9.10 hehe...
[16:51] <adc> someone can help about grub boot ?
[16:51] <lusum> how to manage upstart services in kubuntu??
[16:51] <saintly> ryrych you still here?
[16:51] <ryrych> saintly yup
[16:52] <adc> i'm running kubuntu, have been customising lot of things, but i'm still trying to get the booting sequence showing the startup informations
[16:52] <saintly> my permission was denied to apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:52] <saintly> do i need to sudo apt?
[16:53] <adc> 've been cleaning all splash quiet elements, but still nothing, the kubuntu works 2 minutes long with a black screen, or now my grub wallpaper
[16:53] <ghoulsblade> yep. or use sudo kpackagekit for nice graphical upgrade thingy
[16:53] <saintly> thats a yesss lol
[16:53] <adc> ideas ?
[16:53] <saintly> Calculating upgrade... Done
[16:54] <ghoulsblade> maybe add nosplash  instead of splash ?
[16:54] <saintly> sso back to Vid, has anyone found a solution to fixing a choppy distorted vid quality?
[16:54] <adc> nosplash ?
[16:55] <adc> that will show all starting commands ?
[16:55] <pauru> Hey guys wats up? Is everyone ok?
[16:55] <saintly> hey pauru
[16:55] <Schmidt_> hi! )
[16:55] <saintly> lol sound issues, but nothin less to worry about
[16:55] <moderndayzero> hello
[16:56] <pauru> Thats the spirit! feels good to see that people are alright :)
[16:56] <saintly> sudo apt-get remove pulse-audio
[16:56] <saintly>  this strikes me as a bad idea, suggestions?
[16:56] <Schmidt_> i tried to install ubuntu, but there were problems, so i installed kubuntu ) everything ok now )
[16:56] <pauru> Hey guys i have a problem with my input and my output
[16:56] <adc> if i'm not wrong, what i'm talking about is the verbose mode, so is nosplash the berbose mode, or some thing else can do that
[16:56] <pa1983> can any one tell me if usub_modeswitch is included in 10.04 LTS ?
[16:56] <saintly> pauru, whats ur trouble
[16:57] <saintly> no splash would REMOVE the splash entirely, revealing verbosity, adc ;)
[16:57] <adc> that is great
[16:57] <moderndayzero> well if no one know about the gaming consoles "NES,SNES,N64,GBA,SEGA,PSX,PCSX2,Dolphin,etc.... can anyone here point me in the right direction please.
[16:57] <adc> lol
[16:57] <saintly> :D
[16:58] <saintly> moderndyzer, one sec ill google
[16:58] <adc> ok gonna try that and will be back (or not LOL)
[16:58] <pauru> I am using Linux Mint now and i really like it but when i connect my guitar in the Line in The soud when i am playing doesn't come out, the thing is that if i record and the press play i can hear the soud
[16:58] <adc> oh just
[16:58] <adc> what is  vga=789
[16:58] <adc> couldn't find out
[16:58] <moderndayzero> lol ive googled the crap out of these things and i cant seem to get them either installed or configured
[16:59] <saintly> i know right
[16:59] <saintly> Pauru, so ur saying you cant hear it at unless you use record?
[17:00] <genii> adc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[17:00] <adc> ok that explains a lot lol thank you
[17:00] <genii> adc: Yer welcome
[17:00] <saintly> lol
[17:00] <adc> and about this little ro ?
[17:01] <adc> linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic-pae root=UUID=1521da3c-1d08-4f62-b094-17c7d7e6a2fa ro  splash vga=789
[17:01] <genii> adc: "read-only"
[17:01] <pauru> Yeah, and another funny thing is that If I right-click the speaker in the status tray and choose "Sound Preferences", and go to the Input tab, I can observe that the proper sound levels *are* being recognized
[17:01] <saintly> alright
[17:01] <pauru> the VU rises and falls properly
[17:01] <kde185> mischdele: got d/c'ed.  any luck on finding the cause?
[17:01] <saintly> whoo knows if 10.04 removed PulseAudio?
[17:01] <adc> why should it be read only for bootking kubuntu ?
[17:01] <saintly> E: Couldn't find package pulse-audio
[17:02] <adc> booting ^^
[17:02] <kde185> saintly: I'm pretty sure PulseAudio is here to stay (unfortunately)
[17:03] <saintly> kde185 mine idssappeared
[17:03] <genii> adc: Not sure. It's not usually in there unless you're booting from something like cd or immutable media
[17:04] <adc> i'm on my external hard drive
[17:04] <pauru> What should i do to fix this (I have the Pulse Audio and now it runs in the tray)
[17:04] <kde185> saintly: that's very strange, you sure that the package is called pulse-audio?
[17:04] <adc> nevermind, everything is working fine, just gonna try the nosplash and that's gonna be alright ^^
[17:04] <mischdele> kde185: sorry, no idea - but honestly, i also didn't really search for the cause any longer now that it's working :)
[17:05] <saintly> E: Couldn't find package pulse-audio
[17:05] <kde185> mischdele: ah I see
[17:05] <saintly> im trying to uninstall acutalll
[17:05] <saintly> y*
[17:05] <Zhenya> guys i need some help, I am having a CRITICAL issue with 10.04
[17:06] <Zhenya> i will be using the machine and all of the sudden the screen will turn black and i can see a typing cursor just sitting there
[17:06] <Zhenya> the caps lock light is blinking and i can't do ANYTHING
[17:06] <Zhenya> this has happened 3 times this morning and I have a LOT of work
[17:06] <kde185> saintly: the PulseAudio package is named "pulseaudio"
[17:07] <saintly> ty
[17:07] <Zhenya> i upgraded last night bia the gui
[17:07] <Delemir_> Zhenya, you should start by checking your logs in /var/log/messages
[17:07] <Zhenya> ok let me see what i have there
[17:09] <Zhenya> Delemir_: would it helpif i pastebined it? i am a N00bster
[17:10] <Delemir_> sure let me take a look at it ill see if i can do something about it
[17:11] <Zhenya> http://pastebin.org/194987
[17:11] <Zhenya> Delemir_: http://pastebin.org/194987
[17:11] <Zhenya> i pasted in the last 2 hours or so since i started using the machine
[17:11] <Zhenya> (i hope it doesnt go do while we aredoing this!)
[17:13]  * oxymoron wonders if theres something better than Kopete, Pidgin, AMSN and KMess because all of them doesnt fit my needs which is a working MSN client xD
[17:13] <adc> i don't get it
[17:13] <Delemir_> lol hopefully not... and just so you know im in the process of upgrading kubuntu right now. Might have to restart pretty soon. If something happens and i dont come back. Tell my children that i love them....
[17:13] <adc> nothing's working lol
[17:13] <Zhenya> Delemir_: i know the feeling
[17:14] <adc> what ever i do/set, the grub boot is black/wallpaperimage 2 minutes long until kubuntu is started
[17:14] <adc> can't get the verbose mode, any informations of the boot sequence
[17:14] <ghoulsblade> my black-desktop problem was solved by : apt-get install plasma-desktop + reboot
[17:14] <adc> terminal
[17:15] <Zhenya> ghoulsblade: your having the same problem?
[17:15] <Zhenya> using the computer and then boom black screen with just a cursor and nothing else?
[17:16] <JuJuBee> Just did clean install of 10 with apache2 php5 and when I navigate to a php file, the browser wants to download it?
[17:16] <Kriss3d> ghoulsblade,  ehmm did you get like nothing after installing 10.04 after it shows the logo ?
[17:16] <ghoulsblade> Zhenya, yes, it seems
[17:16] <Zhenya> ghoulsblade: when i did that i got 0 packages updated
[17:16] <saintly> No sound grrrrrrrrrr
[17:16] <ghoulsblade> i moved my ~/.kde to some other place as well
[17:17] <Delemir_> Zhenya, i didnt see anything wrong in your logs sorry
[17:17] <Zhenya> Delemir_: FARK thanks!
[17:17] <Zhenya> ghoulsblade: plasma-desktop is already the newest version.
[17:17] <Zhenya> plasma-desktop set to manually installed.
[17:17] <Zhenya> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:17] <saintly> having sound issues from hell
[17:17] <saintly> anyone?
[17:17] <ghoulsblade> (during login with ctrl+alt+f1  console, ctrl+alt+f7 brigns you back tro graphics)
[17:17] <Delemir_> saintly
[17:17] <ghoulsblade> try running   plasma-desktop       in console
[17:17] <saintly> delemir
[17:17] <Delemir_> is it just not working at all?
[17:17] <Zhenya> ghoulsblade: i have no ideahow to do that!
[17:17] <saintly> not at all
[17:17] <Delemir_> or just some app not having sound
[17:17] <ghoulsblade> a restart might do as well
[17:17] <kde185> alright I can't install 10.04 netbook edition, the installer hangs at 47% where it is scanning the discs just prior to the Disk Setup screen.  Anyone here able to help?  I'm completely stumped and google isn't helping.  I have an EEE 1000 (SSD disc version)
[17:17] <ghoulsblade> alt+f2 opens an input bar
[17:17] <saintly> nothing works
[17:18] <Zhenya> ghoulsblade: i've trid that
[17:18] <ghoulsblade> there you can start "konsole" to get a graphical terminal
[17:18] <Zhenya> ghoulsblade: i can'teven get to that ones it goes
[17:18] <Delemir_> ok nvm then i though you had the same issue as i did... but mine was just stuff like flash with no sound
[17:18] <ghoulsblade> maybe with ctrl+alt+f1 then ?
[17:19] <Zhenya> hmm ok
[17:19] <ghoulsblade> should open a non-graphical fullscreen console, you can get back to graphics using ctrl+alt+f7
[17:19] <saintly> flash with no sound you need to reinstall your flash delemir
[17:19] <Zhenya> ghoulsblade: it seems that it just locks up
[17:19] <saintly> or reinstall  your browser all together
[17:19] <Zhenya> the weird part is that the capslock blinks!
[17:19] <ghoulsblade> hmm sounds bad, reboot maybe ?
[17:20] <Delemir_> isn't that a kernel panic?
[17:20] <ghoulsblade> i stumbled upon this thread while searching : http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=87227
[17:20] <ghoulsblade> found the plasma-desktop tipp there, maybe it has further infos
[17:21] <RnFstRuckHrd> Hello all - found this article yesterday, which explains why my upgrade to 10.04 yesterday killed my laptop. Apparently the Dell Inspiron 700M has been blacklisted? See article and link inside article ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1461029 ) Can anyone give me an idea if this is something that will change with future updates, or is my laptop stuck on Karmic for the remainder of its days?
[17:21] <ghoulsblade> Zhenya,  it also says that if that doesn't work you should reinstall the kubuntu-desktop  package
[17:21] <Zhenya> right
[17:21] <Zhenya> ok i'm going to work for a while
[17:21] <ghoulsblade> If when you reboot, there is no desktop, you may need to put plasma-desktop into your autostart list.
[17:21] <Zhenya> if it goes down i will be back and bother you
[17:21] <ghoulsblade> ~/.kde/Autostart  or so
[17:22] <Zhenya> i have something urgent i need to finish first!
[17:22] <ghoulsblade> or via system config
[17:22] <ghoulsblade> good luck !
[17:22] <Zhenya> thanks!
[17:22] <Delemir_> good luck Zhenya
[17:22] <Zhenya> i'm going to msg you so i can talk to you dirctly later
[17:22] <Zhenya> Delemir_: thanks!
[17:22] <Zhenya> i have a feeling i'll be back soon :P
[17:24] <Gerrit> Hi. I accidentally pressed some key or mouse butten that caused me to see thumbnails of all my windows, until I clicked one (new KDE on new Kubuntu). What key or mouse movement might that have been?
[17:25] <Gerrit> It's not alt+<Tab> because that shows only the active workspace
[17:26] <kde185> gerrit: if your mouse is in the top left then you can "push" into the corner to do that I think
[17:29] <Gerrit> kde185: indeed, thanks
[17:32] <Schmidt__> hi everyone!
[17:32] <Schmidt__> Why is it no sound after installation?
[17:33] <Schmidt__> (sorry for language , i'm from Russia)
[17:33] <Schmidt__> Why is it no sound after installation?
[17:33] <saintly> yes what shmidt said
[17:34] <saintly> NOOO soundd
[17:34] <Schmidt__> saintly  u havn't too, bro?
[17:35] <Schmidt__> maybe sudo aptitude install pulseaudio can help?
[17:35] <pauru> Hey guys why isn't ardour working?
[17:35] <thegeek0100_> !no sound
[17:36] <thegeek0100_> !sound
[17:57] <saintly> audio issues STILL
[17:57] <muffin2> Hello
[17:57] <saintly> hi
[17:57] <muffin2> I put kubuntu 10.04 lucid on my usb drive.
[17:58] <saintly> give it here. lol
[17:58] <muffin2> And a blank screen appears after I enter either "install kubuntu" or "try without install"
[17:58] <cirillo> Quick question: My Windows 7 computer has no username/passwords on its network shares. As in, when I access the shares from another windows box, I simply set my workgroup to HOME (the workgroup of the PC) and it lets me browse the shares, free of any login credentials. When I try to use Dolphin, it asks for a username and password. I set my workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf to HOME, and restarted, but dolphin still wants me to authenticate with a
[17:58] <cirillo>  username/password that I don't have
[17:58] <muffin2> The same happens when I boot it on cd.
[17:58] <muffin2> I have X1250 graphic card.
[17:58] <muffin2> Is it a problem?
[17:59] <saintly> dont know what to tell ya muffin2
[17:59] <muffin2> This thing never works well.
[17:59] <muffin2> Maybe I should stick to virtualbox.
[17:59] <muffin2> Linux hardware support sucks
[18:01] <cirillo> muffin2: have you tried different graphic configurations. I think it's F4 to set different graphics settings
[18:01] <muffin2> cirillo : I didn't try.
[18:03] <cirillo> muffin2: Try a different graphics setting. If that doesn't work, you may need to try the alternate CD, since that card requires proprietary ATI drivers which are not included with Kubuntu and must be installed manually
[18:03] <muffin2> damn
[18:03] <muffin2> radeonhd?
[18:04] <muffin2> I don't know how to make kubuntu use radeonhd driver on console.
[18:04] <muffin2> Anyway I try
[18:04] <cirillo> maybe try aticonfig? Sorry, I'm an nvidia guy
[18:05] <cirillo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg << set to use Vesa
[18:06] <cirillo> he left... well, anyone here with samba knowledge?
[18:09] <oxymoron> Could someone explain this for me: "You don't have permission to access / on this server." (HTTP 403 Error)? :S In error log it tries to access ~/.htaccess but that isnt the document root for my enabled site, my root is ~/projects.  Could be some kind of permission porblems with root folder, but I have access to it, not
[18:10] <oxymoron> sure what user group apache2 uses? :S
[18:19] <oxymoron> Is www-data used this days?
[18:21] <adc_> hey i'm back ^^
[18:21] <GNU\colossus> oxymoron: www-data:www-data is what the apache process effectively runs under, yes
[18:21] <rosco_y> testing
[18:21] <GNU\colossus> oxymoron: have a look at mpm-itk if you intend to change that.
[18:21] <adc_> been trying several things on my boot with grub, and finaly fixed something because i've get 10 secondes of intialisation text ^^
[18:22] <oxymoron> GNU\colossus: I dont intend to change that, but I am trying to change my freaking Document Root by "a2ensite" command but www-data only point to that /var/www
[18:22] <adc_> i have a question : who is using kubuntu here and has the whole startup time long the initialisation text instead of a black screen ?
[18:23] <GNU\colossus> oxymoron: if you're after serving some static files via HTTP only, apache might be overkill for you anyway
[18:23] <rosco_y> Why do I get 404 messages when I try to ask a question in the #mysql session?
[18:24] <oxymoron> GNU\colossus: No I am after a LAMP-server for developing my framework.  I want to know how to solve it?
[18:24] <adc_> http://www.yeap.de/blog2.0/uploads/kubuntu/startup.png
[18:24] <adc_> does some body see that while booting kubuntu from the hard drive ?
[18:24] <GNU\colossus> oxymoron: the apache error log should provide more info on the specific reason. it may either be a permission problem in your file system, or a configuration problem for the URI you're requesting.
[18:25] <adc_> because i did when i ran kubuntu from an usb key, and since i'm on hard drive, nothing while it starts
[18:25] <bjorn> kontact/kmail doesn't work at all for me on 10.04.  it complains "kontact(8967)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Connection refused""
[18:25] <adc_> it did
[18:25] <adc_> no one ?
[18:25] <oxymoron> GNU\colossus: I got this and cant understand what it means: "[Fri Apr 30 19:16:49 2010] [crit] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] (13)Permission denied: /home/oxymoron/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable"
[18:26] <oxymoron> GNU\colossus: It shouldnt even check in /home/oxymoron for .htaccess files :D
[18:26] <GNU\colossus> oxymoron: is /home/oxymoron/.htaccess readable by www-data? is /home/oxymoron/ read- and executable for www-data?
[18:27] <oxymoron> GNU\colossus: It should NOT look inside /home/oxymoron at all for .htaccess files :S Thats not my DocumentRoot at all and its readable.
[18:28] <oxymoron> GNU\colossus: I cant understand why it even look there at the first place, I havent configured it like that :S
[18:29] <GNU\colossus> oxymoron: apache2ctl -S might help you find out where it's getting that config from
[18:29] <Guest55142> is there something special that needs to be done to get my java working? doesnt work in firefox or konqueror and ive installed the bin from java.com still nothing
[18:29] <Guest55142> on my new 10.04 install^
[18:30] <GNU\colossus> Guest55142: install the java plugin via apt (synaptic)
[18:30] <GNU\colossus> Guest55142: you generally don't install random binaries. this is not windows.
[18:30] <Guest55142> can you tell me what its called, theres tons of java results
[18:30] <oxymoron> GNU\colossus: Everything seems okay when I runned command "apache2ctl -S"
[18:30] <adc_> ok let's try it again :
[18:31] <adc_> did someone here install kubuntu on an hard drive ?
[18:31] <Guest55142> i wouldnt call it random, after no success to get my java working i downloaded http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=39489 from sun java and installed as said per their website, yes im new to linux as well .. so call it my trial and error :)
[18:31] <GNU\colossus> I'm not running ubuntu myself, but I guess it's "sun-java6-plugin" what you're looking for
[18:32] <GNU\colossus> (for the _official_ Sun/Oracle Java Plugin)
[18:32] <fer_luck> hey guys!
[18:32] <fer_luck> good afternoon :)
[18:32] <adc_> hey
[18:32] <naftilos76> has anybody installed / upgraded from 9.04 to 10.04 ? How does it look?
[18:32] <adc_> yep
[18:32] <Guest55142> ive searched for that and all similar variants earlier and still find nothing, note im on kubuntu 10.04
[18:32] <adc_> i did
[18:32] <oxymoron> GNU\colossus: Seriously I got really pissed off soon, I have did like everything it feels like.
[18:32] <adc_> but i want an answer to my question before :D
[18:32] <fer_luck> I'm trying to set my kubuntu font configuration to 72 dpi, but there's only 96 and 128 available by default. is there a way to do that?
[18:35] <adc_> everyone's muted lol ? the fear of the chat :D
[18:36] <genii> adc_: It's often quiet in here for long periods.
[18:36] <Guest55142> is anyone else having problems with java in 10.04?
[18:36] <adc_> yeah i know lol
[18:36] <adc_> i don't
[18:39] <oxymoron> ""/usr/bin/dolphin(11568)" Error in thread<PHONE_NUMBER>96912 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"" - Eh? :S
[18:42] <zatanicodoc> adc_ maybe is the hardware
[18:43] <ForgeAus> was KDE3.5.x better on Gutsy, Hardy or Intrepid?
[18:44] <genii> ForgeAus: Hardy
[18:45] <ForgeAus> thx
[18:47] <Schmidt__> kde 3 rulz
[18:50] <dcorbin_wrk> I'm running kbuntu 9.x. When I go to upgrade to 10.x the release notes, etc. speak of unbutu, not kubuntu.  Is this a concern?  It won't leave me with a Gnome desktop will it?
[18:51] <ForgeAus> no dcorbin
[18:51] <ForgeAus> ubuntu is kubuntu  essentially
[18:51] <ForgeAus> (in this respect anyway)
[18:51] <genii> dcorbin_wrk: An upgrade won't install any new Desktop Environment you didn't have before
[18:52] <ForgeAus> when you upgrade it will upgrade kubuntu-desktop (metapackage)
[18:52] <dcorbin_wrk> great.  Thanks.
[18:54] <dcorbin_wrk> Seems like very few files... (only 40)
[18:55] <KenBW2> is it possible to have Wallet take the password from when I log in?
[19:04] <ForgeAus> hardy kde3 remix is harder to find than I thought!
[19:06] <genii> ForgeAus: Hardy came with both KDE3 and KDE4
[19:07] <genii> eg: There was no remix
[19:07] <ForgeAus> uh?...
[19:07] <ForgeAus> it only came with one that I know of... prolly the release where they replaced KDE3 with KDE4...
[19:07] <ForgeAus> (original may have been kde3 maybe kde4 is the remix?)
[19:08] <genii> ForgeAus: Yes it was during the transition period, 8.04 came originally with kde3
[19:08] <ForgeAus> I think its more likely the opposite way around
[19:08] <ForgeAus> kde4 was the normal kde3 was remix
[19:08] <genii> Nope
[19:08] <ForgeAus> genii? hmmm..
[19:09] <ForgeAus> your telling me if I get the basic hardy desktop.iso it has kde3?
[19:10] <ForgeAus> Kubuntu has come with two different releases, one is the stable KDE 3.5.9 and the other one is a Remix Featuring the latest release of KDE 4.0.
[19:11] <ForgeAus> 3.5.9? wait there was kde3 after 3.5.9 why hardy then?
[19:11] <ForgeAus> wouldn't 3.5.10 (is there a later 3.5.x?) be better?
[19:12] <ForgeAus> Genii looks like kde4 was the remix... thats good news.. .
[19:13] <madura> the new release has a bug in the installer pressing whats this makes the installer crash
[19:13] <genii> ForgeAus: The kde3 version which shipped with Hardy was something like 3.5.8 which you could get up to 3.5.10 by normal updates. then if you wanted kde4 the package names all had "4" somewhere in them
[19:13] <ForgeAus> yeah like kmail-kde4
[19:13] <ForgeAus> and kpackage-kde4, etc...
[19:13] <genii> ForgeAus: Yes, exactly
[19:14] <ForgeAus> if you got the one without *-kde4 you had kde3 package...
[19:14] <madura> BTW is there any plugin for kopete for IRC?
[19:14] <ForgeAus> madura:  not that I'm aware of
[19:14] <genii> madura: Did you file a bug on Launchpad for that installer bug?
[19:15] <madura> genii: not yet and i didnt recheck it
[19:15] <thegeek0100> I don't see IRC as an option in kopete am I missing something?
[19:15] <ForgeAus> hmmm 695mb...
[19:16] <ForgeAus> thegeek0100: I don't think kopete has IRC
[19:16] <ForgeAus> konversation or quassel has IRC
[19:16] <madura> thegeek0100: yes :P but u can use konversation
[19:16] <ForgeAus> (there is also java applets on the web, and other ways... like kvirc for example )
[19:17] <thegeek0100> that's weird as kopete calls out irc in its description in kpackagekit
[19:17] <ForgeAus> meebo I think its called is a multi-im page, can't remember if IRC is there or not tho...
[19:17] <ForgeAus> thats all assuming you want some kinda gui... you can always get irssi for a console-based IRC
[19:18] <madura> thegeek0100: it had but the maintainer for thee irc plugin has not upgraded it to kde4
[19:18] <genii> <-- quassel
[19:18] <thegeek0100> If id didn't gui I wouldn't be in this room.
[19:18] <thegeek0100> madura thanks
[19:18] <madura> thegeek0100: :)
[19:18] <ForgeAus> still havn't got to try out the kde4 vers of konversation yet...
[19:19] <ForgeAus> Quassel was interesting but far to X-chat-like for me
[19:20] <madura> ForgeAus: well im on it right now but konversation is much simpler looking
[19:20] <ForgeAus> yeah well the kde3 one was simple too
[19:21] <madura> how can i install mp3 codecs for xine ? amarok keeps sayin phonon cant play mp3s
[19:22] <Schmidt__> i think ununtu with gnome is way better )
[19:23] <ForgeAus> sorry Schmidt, Gnome makes me feel queasy...
[19:23] <Schmidt__> queasy - how is it?
[19:23] <ForgeAus> I don't mind fluxbox or e17 ...
[19:23] <ForgeAus> Schmidt ... pretty much same as nauseus
[19:24] <Schmidt__> i think kde is too laggy and big )
[19:24] <Schmidt__> ope
[19:25] <ForgeAus> first of all theres the default chocolate browns and oranges... although themes can always be modded...
[19:25] <madura> brb
[19:25] <howlymowly> hi poeple... short question:  is there an easy way to get ubuntu one running on kubuntu lucid 10.04 ?
[19:26] <ForgeAus> but then theres nautilus (for that matter even Thunar) and their traversal bar ... (note:Dolphin extended on that to be much like Windows Vista/7's breadcrumbs bar)
[19:26] <Schmidt__> ubuntu one have web interface, so you can use it
[19:27] <ForgeAus> ubuntu one?
[19:27] <howlymowly> Schmidt__: that's right.. but I am rather atlking about easy synchronisation   etc....  and not starting firefox to gett access to ubuntu ne every time I want to use it...
[19:29] <madura> omg boot time :  5 secs! :S
[19:29] <ForgeAus> thats awesome :)
[19:29] <madura> yeap
[19:30] <ForgeAus> hmm look slike Gnome-ubuntu has gone purple background looks very OSX-like
[19:30] <madura> i cam from gnome :P
[19:30] <James147> madura: lucky :) my desktop taks aobut 20 secs from button push till the bios window disapears :D
[19:31] <mvk> i was playing with google-earth a min ago, on kubu 64bit with radeon kernel driver, but it crashed - HARD, locked up, then rebooted
[19:31] <madura> James147: you might have POST on or something
[19:31] <mvk> what log in /var/log can i check to try, and traceback the problem?
[19:31] <ForgeAus> uh as for integration with ubuntu1 howlymowwly, there is probably some but not as much as ubuntu (the default gnome one)
[19:31] <madura> James147: there are ways in new motherboards to skip some tests
[19:31] <James147> madura: its a fairly old comp now
[19:32] <James147> madura: and i think it is set to skip most test, but i probally should check
[19:32] <madura> James147: anyways any oldie would do ok with a linux distro :)
[19:32] <howlymowly> ForgeAus: any hint on where to look for it :)?
[19:32] <ForgeAus> is there a way to skip age-based fscking for kubuntu?
[19:32] <mvk> anyone?
[19:33] <James147> madura: its not old enough to not run win7 :)   but i prefure kubuntu
[19:33] <madura> James147: win7 is crap :P
[19:33] <James147> ForgeAus: I think you ahve to set someoptions on the paritions
[19:33] <ForgeAus> howlymowly https://one.ubuntu.com/features/  shows stuff thats integrated, you'd have to test out stuff like kubuntu equivs like kde-pim's mail/organizer instead of evolution ... for example
[19:34] <madura> well comparing to other MS OSes its better but still...
[19:34] <James147> madura: yeah, but i only have it for running games (and its a striped down version without all the blaot)
[19:34] <madura> James147: thats good, why dont u try urbanterror?
[19:34] <ForgeAus> uh howlymowly I'd be looking for a "contact us" link lol
[19:34] <cuznt> when one update via terminal is there a port to open to make it go faster?
[19:35] <ForgeAus> wait UbuntuOne has a client app...
[19:35] <James147> madura: not to into that type of fps :S to be honest i dont game on it much anymore  so it mostly just sits there
[19:36] <madura> James147: :P  then what would u prefer?
[19:37] <James147> cuznt: dont think opening a port would make it go faster.... keep in mind that the server are probally overloaded atm with everyone else trying to upgrade. If you can i suggest changing mirror
[19:37] <James147> madura: not really the place to discuss that :)
[19:37] <madura> eh
[19:37] <cuznt> ty
[19:37] <ForgeAus> howlymowly: there's a #ubuntuone channel
[19:38] <cuznt> i figured as such i was almost done after 8 hours of update and i lost power
[19:38]  * cuznt goes back to the apt-get drawing board
[19:38] <howlymowly> kewl!! ForgeAus great tip :) thx
[19:38] <Scunizi> What's a good client to use for VPN I tried KvpnC but it has unmet dependencies which I've installed but aren't recognized.
[19:38] <madura> James147: im busy downloading plasma themes :D
[19:39] <James147> cuznt: the packagemanagment system will fist dl all the packages then instal so if it gets intrupted during the dl it can continus where it left off without redownloading much (but 8 hours, that seems alot)
[19:39] <ForgeAus> howlymowly:  I aren't looking to use it but it'll be interesting, the biggest problem is likely to be the dependancies of ubuntuone...
[19:40] <James147> Scunizi: got vpn over pptp to work with knetworkamanger today :p
[19:40] <ForgeAus> probably downloads lots of gnome bits for it to work
[19:40] <cuznt> i thought as much but it is just as slow with the manager. i figured with no front end it might complete faster
[19:40] <Scunizi> James147: yea.. I've got pptp installed and pppd but I switched out knetworkmanager for WiCD because WiCD allowed me to set a static IP on my machine where knetworkmanager wouldn't
[19:41] <James147> cuznt: the download speed wont change much via command line or gui front end... command line is just faster from start to finish :)
[19:41] <howlymowly> ForgeAus: the great thing about Ubuntuone in my opinion is, that it hold sthe promise of free contacts/notes/mail sync across many desktops including mobile phone (I have an android device for example) without compromising "data monster" effects like with google, facebook apple etc...
[19:42] <James147> Scunizi: dont know how to vpn with wicd then :S havent really used it much
[19:42] <rogersman1> hey all, how can make a bootable usb install from iso if I'm currently running another flavour of linux?
[19:42] <rogersman1> usb-creator only for kubuntu
[19:43] <James147> rogersman1: unetbootin
[19:43] <GNU\colossus> is there no java-plugin package on lucid any more?
[19:43] <James147> !unetbootin | rogersman1
[19:43] <James147> !info unetbootin | rogersman1
[19:44] <rogersman1> nice, okay thanx guys!
[19:45] <madura> hey anyone here use compiz with kde window decorator?
[19:46] <ForgeAus> madura, why?
[19:46] <ForgeAus> emerald isn't it?
[19:46] <ForgeAus> I've used it before
[19:46] <sandipnair> hi everybody
[19:46] <ForgeAus> (or aquamarine perhaps)
[19:47] <madura> ForgeAus: does compiz 0.8.4 work well with the kde decorator?
[19:47] <cuznt> crap my update is locked is there a command to fix that please?
[19:47]  * cuznt is having issue day
[19:47] <ForgeAus> uh, not sure I can answer that question specifically...
[19:47] <ForgeAus> I don't see why it wouldn't
[19:47] <ForgeAus> which kde are you using?
[19:47] <sandipnair> can anybody help me with WengoPhone installation?
[19:47] <rogersman1> madura: I know what you mean and compiz is working on this issue...but not yet :-(
[19:47] <ForgeAus> because kde3 reqs a plugin for the panel and compiz really isn't necessary on kde4
[19:48] <madura> ForgeAus: KDE 4.4
[19:48] <rogersman1> 0.9 will support
[19:48] <James147> cuznt: close any packagemanagment system you ahve open (apt-get aptitude kpackagemanager)
[19:48] <madura> rogersman1: thanks, when will 0.9 come?
[19:48] <ForgeAus> you use (wm) -replace which reduces the functinality of the KDesktop because it replaces kwin
[19:49] <madura> kwin is ok but i prefer compiz
[19:49] <rogersman1> madura: hehe they hate that question! ... tho to be honest kde native effects are pretty good...sure you need compiz?
[19:49] <cuznt> i am trying to I get the error it can not get an exclusive lock. there is a command for that.
[19:50] <ForgeAus> not taht I don't like compiz but it sits ok wtih kde3 or gnome or some other window manger... but KDE4 has its own desktop effects, etc...
[19:50] <James147> cuznt: if you are sure no other packagmanament programs are running you can delte the lock file
[19:50] <James147> cuznt: (cant remember where it is, one sec)
[19:51] <madura> rogersman1: 1. i miss compiz :P 2. kwin doesnt have that reflex thing that we can attach a image and  give the reflection from that..etc
[19:52] <rogersman1> madura: yeah, i spent ages trying this whole emerald, aurora, etc trying to get kde and compiz to work harmoniously with no joy...either wait for 0.9 or stick with kwin IMHO
[19:53] <rogersman1> 0.9 is a complete reworking of compiz-fusion from the ground up...so might be a long while until stable
[19:53] <madura> rogersman1: yeap me too :P i even tried compiling 0.8.6 it loads up kde deco but theres a fat border :S
[19:54] <madura> on the mean time i want that reflex plugin for kwin lol
[19:54] <James147> cuznt: what was the full error message?
[19:55] <cuznt> Unable to get exclusive lock
[19:55] <cuznt> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first.
[19:55] <rogersman1> madura: put in a feature request for kwin group if u like!
[19:56] <cuznt> i got it thanks james147
[19:56] <James147> cuznt: :)
[19:56] <madura> yeap i should put one on
[19:57] <ForgeAus> I've been thinking of a few feature requests, like mostly for transparent window decorators, stuff like animation and/or filter-based stuff say colour-cycling ...
[19:58] <ForgeAus> (or magnify)
[19:58] <rogersman1> madura: compiz projects looks pretty dead actually...web page hasn't been updated since Feb 2009! :-(
[19:59] <madura> rogersman1: yea free project suffer that kinda non working periods
[19:59] <madura> i think someone will make a patch or something in the future
[20:00] <ForgeAus> lol I was checking out XFCE, compiz on that is a strange concept!
[20:00] <madura> lol
[20:00] <madura> low end desktop high end bling!
[20:01] <ForgeAus> apparently XFCE has its own compositing anyway
[20:01] <madura> i havent used it often
[20:01] <ForgeAus> madura I could go lower... like say fluxbox + compiz?
[20:02] <madura> ForgeAus: :P just get the new KDE
[20:02] <moetunes> ForgeAus: flux and compiz are both wms - so you can't run both
[20:02] <ForgeAus> doesn't look like Canonical are going to take in the Fluxbuntu team as official anytime soon... oddly enough
[20:02] <ForgeAus> they seem to be looking to a LXDE (Lubuntu) and possibly an Enlightenment (e17) ubuntu (something like elbuntu)
[20:03] <ForgeAus> good point moetunes I should have known better :)
[20:03] <howlymowly> hi everyone..  does anyone here know of a nice file sync service for linux and android?
[20:07]  * James147 hopes he fixed grub
[20:08]  * James147 is glad he can finally boot into lucid on his desktop :D
[20:11] <zus> isnt KGpg installed  by default in 10.4?  if s where is it?
[20:12] <James147> zus: not seeing it here :s
[20:12] <zus> guess i got to install it then.
[20:12] <ADC> hey
[20:13] <ADC> does anyone have a problem by booting with the 2.6.32-21kernel
[20:13] <zus> James147,  well it says  i have it installed, i see an x but  a lot of options for pgp
[20:13] <ADC> because by talking with other people, it seams that the 32 instead of 21 (by auto update of kubuntu) doesn't show anymore the booting sequence
[20:14] <ADC> everything's hided and i'm getting crazy to find a way to fix that ^^
[20:15] <rogersman1> madura: you still around?
[20:15] <madura> rogersman1: yes
[20:15] <madura> rogersman1: got any updates?
[20:15] <rogersman1> just finishing chatting to sum developers over at #compiz who say the recent version of compiz has been fixed for KDE4 windows decorations!
[20:15] <madura> rogersman1: yay
[20:16] <James147> zus: try running "sudo aptitude isntall kgpg"
[20:16] <madura> rogersman1: so they are talking about 0.8.6
[20:16] <madura> repos only have 0.8.4
[20:16] <rogersman1> standby
[20:18] <zus> James147,  that would also take care of  pgp as well then ?
[20:18] <rogersman1> madura: http://releases.compiz.org/
[20:19] <madura> rogersman1: thanks!
[20:19] <James147> zus: not sure
[20:20] <madura> rogersman1: u use bespin?
[20:21] <rogersman1> madura: bespin?
[20:21] <madura> http://cloudcity.sourceforge.net
[20:21] <madura> rogersman1: ^^ there its a window style for KDE
[20:22] <madura> has all those transculent effects and all
[20:22] <James147> :) just started to install bespin
[20:22] <rogersman1> madura: new to me...I'll have a lookee
[20:23] <James147> rogersman1: it is in the repos (kde-style-bespin and kwin-style-bespin)
[20:23] <madura> rogersman1: yea thats old
[20:23] <madura> :P
[20:24] <rogersman1> actually, I'm not using kubuntu ... just came on the channel to ask about live USB install :-[
[20:24] <rogersman1> the compiz things piqued my curiosity
[20:25] <madura> rogersman1: ah :D
[20:26] <rogersman1> today's new release caught my eye, so I thought I'de give it a look
[20:26] <rogersman1> along with a lot of other people probably :-)
[20:27] <rogersman1> holy crap , there's a lot of things called bespin!
[20:27] <K350> Where is the "Shutdown button " in Lucid Lynx (KDE) Can't see it in the kmenu
[20:27] <daicon> hello
[20:28] <James147> K350: KMenu > leave tab > shutdown
[20:28] <daicon> someone can help me?
[20:28] <James147> K350: or Alt+F2 > Type: shutdown
[20:28] <James147> !help | daicon
[20:29] <K350> James147: Well,k it's not there...uh?
[20:29] <daicon> I finished installing Kubuntu. But when I wanted to upgrade through the implementation KPackageit, downloads are very slow, mucho.No have any problem with another distribution. Can you help?
[20:29] <James147> K350: you loged in through kdm right?
[20:30] <K350> James147: yess..well started x form the terminal
[20:30] <punto> hi.. which process handles alt+tab? it stopped working
[20:30] <James147> K350: if you are running it from terminal then the shutdown buttons arent availble
[20:31] <madura> rogersman1: i just installed kubuntu 10.04 :D
[20:31] <K350> James147: ah, well I'll try to restart from termnal and see if it's there ...thanks a lot:-)
[20:31] <James147> K350: think its because you need to be root to shutdown (and your running it from user) where if you run from kdm, kdm can shutdown for you (as it is running as root)
[20:31] <James147> :(
[20:32] <James147> daicon: a new release cam out yesterday so the servers are very bussy atm and probally will be over the next few days
[20:32] <James147> daicon: you can try to use a different mirror to see if the speeds are any better
[20:32] <James147> punto: I think kwin handels alt+tab
[20:34] <punto> James147: can I kill it without bringing down the whole session, like plasma-desktop?
[20:35] <rogersman1> madura: compiling new compiz version now...
[20:35] <daicon> James147 :As I can configure the repository to connect to another server?
[20:35] <madura> rogersman1: you have KDE to test that with?
[20:35] <James147> punto: you can kill it, but you wont easaly beable to do much without it you can try "killall kwin; sleep 1; kwin" from the runner to kill it and restart it
[20:35] <rogersman1> madura: yeah..4.4.2
[20:36] <James147> punto: i would make sure you have konsole running and inview firs tthough
[20:36] <madura> ow rytt :P
[20:36] <James147> punto: dont think you can bring krunner up again once its down :S
[20:37] <punto> James147: actually I brought it back from the text-mode console, but it still doesn't respond to alt+tab
[20:39] <ulysses> Hello, how can I change the default IM client from Kopete to KMess in Systemsettings?
[20:39] <daicon> James147: As I can configure the repository to connect to another server?
[20:39] <James147> punto: System settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Global keyboard settings > "Kde compoent >> Kwin" > Search: "Walk through windows"
[20:40] <James147> punto: see if the shorcut key got reassigned by soemthing ^^
[20:40] <madura> rogersman1: brb :) restarting
[20:41] <James147> daicon: Kpacakgekit > Settings tab > Edit software sources > Download from:
[20:42] <vadi01> guys any idea if nvidea driver is working ok in kubuntu?
[20:43] <James147> ulysses: System settings > Deafult Applications  :)
[20:44] <ulysses> James147: there isn't an option to choose KMess
[20:44] <James147> vadi01: it was in karmic for me, haven enabled them yet on lucid but the opensource ones seems to be working fine (even have dual screen support now :D )
[20:45] <James147> ulysses: not sure then sorry
[20:45] <ulysses> James147: I could choose an application, but only Kopete is in the list:(
[20:46] <exalt> wich programming ide is best in kubuntu to code c++?
[20:46] <James147> ulysses: dont use kmess so i dont know how to get it in the list :S
[20:46] <James147> !best | exalt
[20:46] <ulysses> James147: I'm also not, but someone asked me how can he does this thing
[20:47] <James147> exalt: but i tend to like qt creator or kdevleop
[20:47] <James147> exalt: or kate :)
[20:47] <James147> !ide | exalt
[20:47] <exalt> James147: i apriciate your reaction but please man... i dont know any ide so i cant do anything with your comment, ahh the thats some comment i can start with thanx
[20:48] <madura> rogersman1: whats the latest?
[20:49] <exalt> are the c++ plugins for netbeans available in netbeans?
[20:49] <rogersman1> madura: currently in dependancy hell...I hate building from source
[20:53] <user__> opera.com
[20:53] <madura> rogersman1: im having other troubles :S cant install ATI binary drivers
[20:53] <madura> can install but the compositing isnt working
[20:55] <manuel_> hi, my hoster recently moved, and now my 8.04 installation does not have any /dev/pty* devices anymore. how can i recreate them?
[20:56] <manuel_> screens fails to start and ends with:"Sorry could not find a pty"
[20:58] <rogersman1> madura: looks like this isn't going to be a smooth ride
[20:59] <madura> yea
[20:59] <swien> hi
[20:59] <madura> rogersman1: are u using the cmake tar files?
[21:00] <swien> Should kwin compisiting work with nouveau driver?
[21:00] <rogersman1> actually the pre-built packages are up in my current so I'm gonna upgrade my system
[21:00] <rogersman1> madura: but yes, thats where i started before
[21:00] <rogersman1> madura: should work fine if you had previous version running
[21:01] <rogersman1> if in doubt, head to #compiz ..they're pretty helpful :-D
[21:01] <madura> rogersman1: well now things are kinda worse :P i have to find a fix for ATI binary driver on ubuntu first
[21:01] <madura> rogersman1: k thanks
[21:02] <doleyb> Hello, does the kubuntu lucid crash less than karmic? (karm crashes plasma-desktop about every 15 minutes for me)
[21:03] <James147> doleyb: its a newer version so 'should' be more stable (ie crash less) but sometimes something can break and it get worst (although not as often)
[21:04] <James147> doleyb: I havent noticed many problem with instability in it yet, but it hasnt been out for very long :)
[21:06] <amichair> if I use nvidia drivers from their website on karmic, will I have problems in upgrade to lucid? release notes mention something vague about this, but not details
[21:06]  * rogersman1 away to the gym ... bbl
[21:07] <Sebas_> Installed 10.04 on eeepc 1000H but Wifi won't work... anyone ideas??
[21:07] <Sebas_> won't accept password..
[21:08] <Sebas_> such a downer
[21:08] <ryann> what kind of security is the access point using?
[21:08] <ryann> and what network manager are you using?
[21:08] <Sebas_> wpa
[21:08] <Sebas_> wpa2
[21:08] <Sebas_> default?
[21:08] <ryann> it worked previously?
[21:09] <Sebas_> yeah with 9.10
[21:09] <ryann> i've had my own problems using knetworkmanager, so i run wicd instead
[21:09] <Sebas_> wicd?
[21:09] <ryann> may be worth a shot for you as well, at least for troubleshooting
[21:09] <ryann> yea
[21:09] <ryann> are you able to get that machine online via ethernet?
[21:09] <Sebas_> yes
[21:09] <ryann> sudo apt-get install wicd
[21:10] <Sebas_> thanx will do now'
[21:10] <ryann> the install will remove the knetworkmanager and plasmoid
[21:10] <ryann> reboot, and the wicd client will run
[21:10] <ryann> service is /etc/init.d/wicd
[21:10] <boby> help?
[21:11] <boby> kubuntu freezes at boot
[21:11] <ryann> boby: you have any other information than that?
[21:11] <Sebas_> ryann: thanx i will reboot now :)
[21:11] <boby> no it is stack
[21:12] <boby> I red on net that the problem is some plymouth
[21:12] <ryann> stack?
[21:12] <boby> whatever it is
[21:12] <swien> @body does it stuck everytime you boot or just now?
[21:12] <ryann> you're not giving me anything close to enough information to help you with that
[21:12] <boby> stuck*
[21:12] <boby> ok...
[21:13] <n8w_> hey
[21:13] <boby> after install it freezes sometimes and sometimes offers me login
[21:13] <boby> and I choose during install to log in automaticaly
[21:13] <boby> in console I do : killall /etc/init.d/kdm
[21:13] <boby> and then startx
[21:13] <doleyb> amichair: I bet you would have problems at first, so its good to switch back to default nv drivers before the lucid upgrade.  Then you can install nvidia again.
[21:14] <boby> and tan it boots
[21:14] <boby> than*
[21:14] <boby> I have ati card
[21:14] <n8w_> do u guys think that my db2 local server installation will b affected by an upgrade to 10.4 from 9.10?
[21:15] <amichair> doleyb: so run the nvidia --uninstall (or something like that), reboot, upgrade, then run nvidia installer again? any idea what they meant by having problems using the upstream nvidia drivers in lucid?
[21:15] <swien> @boby could you upload you Xorg.0.log from /var/log when kdm does not start?
[21:15] <boby> then I need to go
[21:15] <boby> will you be here
[21:16] <swien> @body if it does't take too long ;-)
[21:16] <boby> ok back in minute
[21:17] <zus> how do one get ppa's from the  programs installed through the  cli and kpackagekit?
[21:17] <zus> i dotn have to visist  every programs site and get them do i?
[21:18] <jaime_> hi
[21:18] <swien> Is anybody using nouveau with kwin here?
[21:19] <jaime_> can help me?
[21:19] <zus> jaime just ask the question some one  might be able too
[21:19] <Sebas_> ryann: did the reboot wifi still not working.. wicd says bad password.. the same as knetworkmanager.. every time i install a new Kubuntu I have the same probs... :(
[21:19] <Sebas_> I really need this to work because tomorrow I will travel the world... so I need my netbook
[21:19] <boby> xorg.o.log is huge to paste it here
[21:20] <swien> @boby use pastebin or something like that
[21:20] <genii> !pastebin
[21:20] <zus> damn youse type fast hahaha
[21:20] <Sebas_> ryann: windows netbook does connect instantly
[21:21] <jaime_> when im trying to update to the new version of kubuntu, i have a 127 code
[21:21] <zus> now about them ppa's  i went and used the command line for getting kdenLive and stuff, but  the ppa is still for karmic.  am i going to have to get all the ppa's from each program i need it for ?
[21:22] <boby> how to use this pastebin?
[21:23] <swien> @boby you can just upload the file there and will get a short url
[21:23] <pidus> Does anybody know the keyboard shortcut to maximize a window (at least the terminal window) in kubuntu 9.10?
[21:25] <boby> nothing happends
[21:25] <boby> ok can I paste here part of xorg
[21:25] <boby> tell what to looking for
[21:26] <swien> Is there a line starting with EE?
[21:26] <zus> boby on the bottom there should be a button to submit
[21:26] <jaime_> im trying to update my kubuntu to lucide 10.04, but i cant because i have the 127 code
[21:27] <boby> yes when I pressed it askes me to do I want to transfer file and I say yes
[21:27] <boby> what ten
[21:27] <boby> then*
[21:27] <Neremor> hello!
[21:28] <zus> boby after you submit it then copy the url for the page
[21:30] <boby> I press submit, then I press ok when it askes me to transfer file, and then nothing happends
[21:31] <Neremor> I've installed kubuntu 10.04. When booting up, I got a black-screen, but i got rid of this through replacing "quit splash" in the boot entry with "nomodeset". Now I was able to boot, but I'm directly droped into tty1, X is not starting. There I don't have Internet also (simple ethernet-connection, should work automatically). VIa the netroot-shell in recovery mode i installed the nvidia-driver for my card. Now I'm able to start the X-Server via
[21:31] <boby> what to use for image?
[21:34] <boby> OK here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/425470/
[21:35] <boby> I also instaled restricted driver
[21:36] <swien> @body this is the log when you don't get a desktop?
[21:37] <pidus> Sigh! how much longer will I need to envy my Fedora using neighbor who is able to expand his terminal using kyboards while I look around for the mouse :-(
[21:38] <boby> ?
[21:39] <boby> ok what now?
[21:39] <exalt> kubuntu restricted extras wont install
[21:40] <exalt> is this commonly?
[21:40] <swien> @body the log does not show any error so X should be running. I'm not sure what could be wrong if X is running and kdm does not... How did you get this file?
[21:40] <boby> swien?
[21:41] <exalt> hund
[21:41] <boby> what do you mean?
[21:41] <pidus> Got it! it finally works.
[21:42] <swien> @body You started the computer. Then it either stuck or showed a desktop. Did you manually start X after it stuck?
[21:43] <swien> @boby before you grabbed the file?
[21:43] <boby> ok after boot (every time now happends) it offers me login
[21:43] <boby> after i type my user and pass
[21:43] <boby> it pffers me again login
[21:43] <James147> pidus: You can assign a shotcut key to windows so that they gain focuse and move to th frount when its pressed
[21:43] <boby> then I do console login
[21:44] <boby> and login succesefully
[21:44] <boby> do: killall kdm
[21:44] <boby> and then startx
[21:44] <James147> pidus: System settings > Window behaviour > Window spific
[21:44] <Henson_D> could someone help me with a dolphin problem I've been encountering for some time?  I'm not sure if it's a bug or just a misconfiguration.  In Dolphin's column view, you used to be able to navigate by typing in the first few characters of a directory and hitting enter to open it in the next column over.  This used to work in 4.1, now with 4.2 it will work only for descending one directory level...
[21:44] <boby> that's it
[21:44] <Henson_D> then further enter presses have no effect.
[21:44] <swien> @boby what happens if you do restart kdm? Are you able to login then?
[21:45] <boby> didn't try
[21:45] <Henson_D> oops, sorry I meant it used to work in 4.0 through 4.3, but now in 4.4 it doesn't work.
[21:45] <boby> should I do now?
[21:45] <swien> just run sud restart kdm
[21:45] <swien> sudo
[21:45] <boby> ok
[21:45] <pidus> James147: I was looking for a shortcut to maximize/minimize a windows. Could configure it at System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse ->Global Keyboard Shortcuts->kwin->maximize window.
[21:45] <boby> be back in a minute
[21:46] <pidus> James147: though, what you suggest will also help :-) thanks for that.
[21:46] <James147> Henson_D: looks like a bug, getting the same behaviour here but noticed that if you move the mouse then press enter it works
[21:48] <Henson_D> James147: thanks for the confirmation.  I get the same behaviour here.  I can't believe this hasn't been fixed yet, it's been around for a long time and has persisted through many 4.4 updates.
[21:49] <boby> i'm back
[21:49] <Henson_D> James147: and I imagine it would drive anyone who uses column view mad :-)
[21:49] <James147> Henson_D: one quick question, what mouse focus policy do you use?
[21:49] <Henson_D> James147: ahh, very good question.  I use focus strictly under mouse.
[21:49] <swien> @boby wb
[21:49] <boby> after sudo restart kdm offers me again login screen and when I enter my pass it offers login again
[21:50] <boby> I kill kdm
[21:50] <boby> and startx
[21:50] <boby> and here I am
[21:50] <swien> @boby do you have any non standard pam-settings?
[21:50] <boby> what is that?\
[21:51] <James147> Henson_D: have focus follows mouse :) try changing it to the default one and try it
[21:51] <swien> @boby is the tool ubuntu uses to manage you logins. If you don't know what it is you probably did not break it
[21:53] <James147> Henson_D: nop, same behaviour with click to focus
[21:53] <boby> one more thing: when system is starting my kubuntu screen is in low resolution
[21:53] <boby> those blue screen with kubuntu sign
[21:53] <boby> image is corrupted
[21:53] <Henson_D> James147: yeah, I'm getting the same behaviour with all of the others.  Click to focus and Focus Follows Mouse seem worse in that you had to put the mouse pointer into the new column, instead of simply moving the mouse.
[21:54] <James147> Henson_D: Think you should submit a bug report :)
[21:54] <Henson_D> James147: will do :-)  Thanks for your assistance.
[21:55] <boby> it is shown in very low number of colors
[21:57] <boby> what now?
[21:59] <swien> @boby I've got no idea what could be wrong
[22:01] <g0th> hi
[22:02] <robinking623> anyone here who has the problem with Fn key to change the backlight under kde 4.4?
[22:02] <boby> ok conclusion: when booting I can't boot when it offers me login screen, then I need to do console login and from there kill ldm and startx. It is clean instalation of 64 bit kubuntu. And my system has ati video card
[22:02] <g0th> how do I create a custom application launcher on the kde panel?
[22:02] <boby> if this helps
[22:04] <jschall> i'm getting audio from amarok and kopete, but not from wow in wine or flash.
[22:05] <g0th> I just want to add another application to the panel, how do I do that?
[22:05] <g0th> It is not in the "official" list
[22:05] <robinking623> g0th: miniprogram unlock
[22:05] <g0th> hmm?
[22:05] <robinking623> g0th: then add miniprogram
[22:06] <Henson_D> jschall: what sound output method is wine or flash using?  Amarok and Kopete are probably using ALSA, but if Wine and Flash are using OSS then the audio device will be blocked by ALSA.
[22:06] <jschall> wine is using alsa and flash would be using alsa.
[22:06] <Henson_D> jschall: or perhaps your KDE audio system is using PulseAudio, in which case the same thing will happen.
[22:07] <jschall> no pulse.
[22:07] <Henson_D> jschall: hmmm, I don't have any more ideas, unfortunately.
[22:07] <g0th> robinking623: there is no package named miniprogram?
[22:07] <swien> @boby sry. I've got no idea what is wrong.
[22:08] <swien> bye
[22:08] <jschall> amarok and kopete have been running a while so i'm thinking it might be something stopping new programs from getting sound?
[22:08] <boby> ok thx anyway and sorry for my english
[22:08] <boby> bye
[22:08] <James147> g0th: Right click kmenu > edit menu (or run kmenuedit)  and you can create a launcher for the menu... after that you cna drag it from kmenu to the panel
[22:09] <howard> hi
[22:09] <Henson_D> jschall: is it only wine and flash that is affected?  Are you able to start another program that outputs sound?
[22:09] <g0th> ah so I first have to modify the menu before adding anything to the panel?
[22:09] <James147> g0th: its the easiest way i think
[22:09] <jschall> Henson_D: i can't think of another program
[22:10] <James147> g0th: althernitivly the widget "quick launcher" might be able to do it
[22:10] <g0th> thanks
[22:10] <jschall> dragon player works
[22:10] <Henson_D> mplayer, or aplay, or audacity?
[22:10] <g0th> hmm I didnt find quick laucher?
[22:10] <jschall> dolphin works
[22:10] <Henson_D> jschall: mplayer, or aplay, or audacity?
[22:11] <jschall> Henson_D: i can get audio apparently
[22:11] <James147> g0th: umm, quicklauncher seems to need a menu entry as well
[22:11] <jschall> Henson_D: just not in flash
[22:11] <jschall> Henson_D: or wow
[22:12] <James147> g0th: right click panel > panel settings > add widget > Type: quick
[22:13] <James147> jschall: not sure about wine but you could try purging flash and installing it from adobes site
[22:14] <Henson_D> jschall: open up a terminal and type        lsof -n | grep "/dev/snd/pcm"      and see what shows up.
[22:15] <jschall> dolphin
[22:15] <jschall> closed dolphin and nothing
[22:15] <g0th> there is just quick access and quick launch
[22:15] <g0th> hmm and I don't find the menu anywhere
[22:15] <Henson_D> jschall: it reports that dolphin is using your sound device?
[22:15] <g0th> I mean I added my program to the menu but I dont find this menu anywhere
[22:16] <jschall> Henson_D: dolphin   24877    jschall   25u      CHR              116,7       0t0     4028 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[22:16] <jschall> Henson_D: then i closed dolphin and it went away but wow still doesn't work
[22:16] <James147> g0th: to edit the menu run "kmenuedit"  or right click kmenu and click edit menu
[22:16] <jschall> Henson_D: but wow is accessing it if i start it
[22:17] <Henson_D> well if you've closed dolphin, maybe you have to kill the dolphin process, because it seems as  though process 24877 is still using your sound device.
[22:17] <g0th> James147: I found this
[22:17] <g0th> James147: but I didn't find it to choose from in the panel
[22:17] <Henson_D> jschall: well if you've closed dolphin, maybe you have to kill the dolphin process, because it seems as  though process 24877 is still using your sound device.
[22:17] <jschall> npviewer also accesses it
[22:17] <g0th> I can just edit it but not actually choose the stuff I edited
[22:18] <phrozen> hello I have a problem I can make a ping via terminal eq. google.com, but when I am trying to open site at webbrowser then I can not - it is offline ... how can i solve it? I am connecting to internet via router
[22:18] <James147> g0th: drag it from kmenu to the panel
[22:18] <g0th> it is not in kmenu?
[22:18] <jschall> Henson_D: amarok also accesses it and works, but nothing else does.
[22:18] <James147> g0th: it should be if you added it using kmenuedit
[22:18] <g0th> hmm but a lot of stuff is not there
[22:18] <jschall> Henson_D: http://pastebin.com/4g6SH8hi
[22:18] <g0th> that is in kmenuedit
[22:19] <g0th> I must be in the wrong menu somehow
[22:19] <jschall> Henson_D: amarok is working, nothing else is.
[22:19] <g0th> and everything is extremely slow
[22:19] <g0th> whenever I update the system configuration it takes several minutes
[22:19] <g0th> on my core7 computer
[22:19] <g0th> and it already crashed several times
[22:19] <Henson_D> jschall: I don't know what to suggest.  Perhaps the volume level is down or mute is on.  It looks like wow is able to use your sound device, but why sound is not coming out, I am not sure.  Has sound worked in the past?
[22:19] <g0th> not the best experience so far ^^
[22:20] <James147> g0th: what version are you running?
[22:20] <jschall> Henson_D: you know, i'm not quite sure. i think it did.
[22:20] <g0th> lucid
[22:20] <jschall> Henson_D: it worked in ubuntu with pulse before i swapped to kubuntu
[22:20] <robinking623> g0th: my kubutu is really really stable
[22:21] <g0th> hmm now it restarts again from 0%
[22:21] <jschall> Henson_D: i'm pretty sure flash was working too
[22:21] <g0th> once it finnished it starts again from 0
[22:21] <g0th> already the third time now
[22:21] <James147> g0th: try disabling strigi (system settings > advanced > desktop search)
[22:21] <cjae> lucid fresh install anyone successfully have a tv set up via svideo without vertical hold loss?
[22:21] <jschall> Henson_D: i'll restart my computer and see if that fixes it, not that it'll keep it from coming back =/
[22:21] <Henson_D> jschall: so you just upgraded to kubuntu and now you're experiencing these problems?
[22:21] <g0th> the system is frozen at the moment
[22:21] <g0th> i cant do anything
[22:21] <jschall> Henson_D: yesterday i think i had it working in kubuntu
[22:21] <g0th> it just says "updating system configuration"
[22:21] <jschall> Henson_D: i'm restarting computer
[22:22] <Henson_D> jschall: ok
[22:22] <g0th> from 0% to 100% then again from 0% etc
[22:22] <robinking623> James147: i have forgoten to tell. i reinstall the my kubuntu, and the problem with usb is gone
[22:22] <g0th> I canceled it
[22:22] <James147> g0th: not sure why ti was doing that :S
[22:23] <g0th> javaws doesnt seem to be working either
[22:24] <g0th> what is the best jre?
[22:25] <g0th> there is gcj-4.4-jre and gcj-jre and openjdk-6-jre and default-jre
[22:25] <g0th> isn't there a "sun jre"?
[22:27] <James147> g0th: they removed (or moved) suns jre from the repos as they thourght openjdk was stable enough
[22:27] <cjae> anyone know why my bluetooth kb and mouse doesnt work in lucid
[22:28] <g0th> hmm
[22:28] <James147> g0th: think it might have gotten moved to teh partener repositories
[22:28] <g0th> couldn't this cause problems with certain applications?
[22:28] <g0th> but I also have the partner repo and I dont see it
[22:30] <Guest60880> is there a repo for kdevelop 3.5.x or is compiling the source the only possibility to get the stable kdevelop working in kubuntu 10.04 :<?
[22:30] <James147> g0th: yuo, its in the partener repos, jsut enabled them refreshed and its there
[22:30] <James147> Guest60880: I think kdevelop is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[22:31] <James147> Guest60880: ^^ thats the 3.9.x version sorry :
[22:32] <g0th> ok thanks
[22:32] <James147> Guest60880: 3.10.x even :)
[22:32] <Guest60880> :>
[22:33] <jschall> Henson_D: still doesn't work.
[22:33] <Henson_D> Guest60880: just add one of the older repositories, like jaunty, and install the 3.5.x version from there.  I've done it and it works.
[22:33] <cjae> anyone else have blutooth logitech devices working
[22:33] <Guest60880> hm i think the packetnames are the same - is a downgrade possible?
[22:34] <Henson_D> jschall: try completely removing pulseaudio from your computer (unless you need to use it).  When I first installed kubuntu I had a similar problem.  KDE was using pulse, so all of the KDE apps worked, but nothing else would.  Once I got rid of pulse KDE started using alsa and things worked again.
[22:34] <jschall> Henson_D: pulseaudio is not installed.
[22:35] <Henson_D> Guest60880: it should be.  If you add the other repository, refresh the packages, and take a look in aptitude, then you'll be able to select the older version.  Just de-install all of the 3.9.x packages first, then select the 3.5.x package and it will bring in all of the other 3.5.x dependencies.
[22:35] <jschall> Henson_D: pulseaudio:  Installed: (none)  Candidate: 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14
[22:35] <Teknical> is there any way to install the nvidia driver without making my splash screen go ugly?
[22:35] <Henson_D> jschall: sorry, I don't know what else to suggest.
[22:36] <Teknical> should be more specific, is there any way to avoid the ugly splash screen bug with nvidia drivers on 10.04 fresh install
[22:37] <Henson_D> jschall: what if you exit KDE then start X using a failsafe mode.  That way none of the extra KDE things will use your soundcard.  Then try starting WOW and see what happens.
[22:37] <jschall> also my spash screen looks like this: http://challinger.net/photo.jpg
[22:38] <vadi01> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/551290
[22:38] <vadi01> is it already in updates?
[22:38] <Henson_D> jschall: haha, so does mine :-(
[22:38] <jschall> Henson_D: the splash screen has never displayed properly for me.
[22:38] <jschall> Henson_D: it always screws up in a different way
[22:38] <Henson_D> jschall: ahh, it used to work properly for me.  For some reason the colour depth or map must be wrong.
[22:39] <jschall> Henson_D: every release of ubuntu/kubuntu has had a messed up splash screen for me and they've all been different
[22:39] <Henson_D> jschall: hmm, my splash screens have always worked until 10.4
[22:39] <vadi01> so there seems to be a problem with the splash screen huh
[22:40] <Teknical> the screen going ugly is caused from the nvidia driver install, at least what i can tell from all the googling ive done
[22:40] <Teknical> i can confirm on this clean install my splash is still nice looking as on live cd, nvidia driver not installed yet
[22:40] <James147> Teknical: you mean the nvida logo screen?
[22:40] <Teknical> no, the kubuntu splash
[22:40] <vadi01> so has it been fixed when you run the update?
[22:40] <Teknical> this is a reported bug, google kubuntu 10.04 ugly splash
[22:41] <Teknical> fully updated last install then did nvidia drivers, then updates again .. still ugly splash
[22:41] <Henson_D> Teknical: if it's the boot screen, then it shouldn't be using the kernel's VGA driver.
[22:41] <James147> Teknical: does it happen for all spalsh screen or jsut the default one?
[22:41] <Teknical> default kubuntu splash, the blue with white dots
[22:41] <jschall> i don't care about the splash screen, but i want my flash audio to work =/
[22:41] <James147> Teknical: try other spalsh screen see if they work
[22:41] <vadi01> darn it means i cant install 10.04 now untill this one is fixed
[22:41] <Teknical> some fixes include modifying the grub settings, but they still dont look 100% right
[22:42] <vadi01> i cant believe why the developers missed this major bug
[22:43] <Teknical> before trying other splashes i was hoping to hear of some resolve before I put the nvidia driver in again
[22:43] <Henson_D> jschall: try starting X with a light-weight window manager, or the failsafe screen then starting WOW.  Maybe KDE is doing something that's causing the sound device not to work.
[22:43] <jschall> Henson_D: i don't know how to do that.
[22:44] <vadi01> Teknical: anyway when you updated maybe the update mirror did not receive the update yet
[22:44] <Henson_D> jschall: at the login screen, there should be a menu that allows you to select a different type of login.  One of the options should be "failsafe", which will give you only an xterm.  Just remember to switch it back to KDE when you're done, otherwise you'll get the failsafe login next time you try to log in.
[22:45] <Teknical> i tested my last install not more than an hour ago, to no avail with no updates
[22:45] <vadi01> try updating from from a server in the us
[22:45] <Teknical> it would be logical to assume that an hour later the problem still exists
[22:45] <jschall> Henson_D: brb
[22:45] <vadi01> Teknical: well means its not reached your server repo yet
[22:46] <jschall> Henson_D: failsafe fails.
[22:46] <jschall> Henson_D: very safely.
[22:46] <jschall> Henson_D: it flashes white and goes right back to the login
[22:47] <Teknical> was on a us server, trying main server
[22:47] <vadi01> Teknical: sorry its been commited but not released
[22:47] <faissal> hi there, just installed kubuntu 10.04, i wanna get rid of the kde cashew, anyone knows how to do it ??? please ?
[22:47] <Teknical> fix pending?
[22:48] <vadi01> Teknical: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/lucid-updates
[22:48] <vadi01> says Fix Committed
[22:48] <James147> faissal: I think there is an application of kde-apps.org that can do that
[22:48] <faissal> yjx mate
[22:48] <faissal> thx
[22:48] <vadi01> Teknical: should be in the updates-testing repos then
[22:49] <Henson_D> jschall: maybe try installing a window manager like "fvwm" and logging in using that.  I have to go for dinner now, so best of luck getting this straightened out.
[22:49] <K350> I've got a black screen after boot and after the bootsplash in Lucid Lynx. I ugraded from Karmic. Anyone?
[22:50] <DarkriftX> well, the upgrade didnt treat me very well
[22:50] <DarkriftX> video problems, apps crashing
[22:50] <DarkriftX> kicker panel size issues
[22:50] <Teknical> that fix is from Alessandro Ghersi and it replaces some files. I have tried this .. it makes the ugly splash go from bad to slightly better, the splash still shows up in likw 1024x786 rather than native res. this is more of a temporary workaround .. and not a great one
[22:51] <Teknical> it appears ive explored all my options for now
[22:51] <K350> DarkriftX: WElcome in the club
[22:51] <vadi01> Teknical: i think you better file a report then
[22:51]  * Henson_D chuckles
[22:53] <Teknical> thank you for your help and time though vadi01, looks like the end of the road for now. I know a few others still pushing this bug .. something will turn up
[22:54] <DarkriftX> I didnt know there was a club :(
[22:54] <DarkriftX> id have put off the upgrade
[22:55] <Teknical> clean install for best results imo, my laptop didnt like the upgrade .. but the clean install was fine
[22:55] <noor1> hello
[22:55] <Teknical> my only bug/issues at the moment are cosmentic
[22:55] <skierpage> Can anyone here still running 9.10 confirm a doc error for me? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades/Kubuntu says you can upgrade to 10.04 from System Settings -> Add and Remove Software -> Software Update , but it DOESN'T offer the upgrade to me.
[22:55] <Teknical> cosmetic*
[22:55] <Martiini> #kubuntu-devel
[22:55] <faissal> damn cashew !!
[22:55] <noor1> how could i install kubuntu desktoop on ubuntu 9.04 and what size it need on har
[22:55] <noor1> ?
[22:55] <noor1> hard*
[22:56] <James147> skierpage: try refreshing the repos
[22:57] <skierpage> james147, so you tried the steps I gave and you got the upgrade offer?
[22:57] <James147> skierpage: it offered it to me when i was running karmic (although i did a fresh install... they tend to work better :)  )
[22:58] <James147> skierpage: i just updated the repos and got it, dident follow any steps :S
[22:58] <skierpage> james147, interesting.  I have the system tray upgrade offer icon and update-notifier-kde -u works, but Add and Remove Software doesn't.
[22:59] <James147> skierpage: did you click refesh on the updates page?
[23:01] <skierpage> james147 Oh yes, many times.  I get bug fix updates (some pg library yesterday, another tzdata today), but not the "Distribution upgrade available".
[23:01] <James147> skierpage: hmm... did you update all the package?
[23:01] <James147> skierpage: upgrade ^^
[23:02] <zus> i can not play .avi files with dragon player,... dvd worked fine but i have TOO many avi files,.. can some one help?
[23:02] <James147> zus: have you isntalled kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[23:03] <skierpage> james147, Ahh well, if it works for some people and the other options work for me, I'm not going to bother filing a bug.  Maybe it's something in my Settings > Edit Software Sources.  Thanks for checking.
[23:03] <zus> James147,  i have.
[23:04] <James147> zus: have you closed and restarted dragon player since you installed it?
[23:05] <zus> James147,  dragon player was already there, and i ve rebooted even
[23:05] <James147> zus: hmm... try installing kaffeine and see if that works
[23:06] <zus> James147,  one sec
[23:08] <skierpage> Full Upgrade to 10.04, here we come!
[23:08] <James147> skierpage: good luck :)
[23:10] <skierpage> (I used usb-creator-kde to make a live USB of kubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso to confirm it runs and my Firefox and Thunderbird pre-releases work)
[23:10] <zus> James147,  same  problem, audio plays but video is not, in fact the screen is not there i see my desktop but i see the window frame its self
[23:10] <K350> where do one install drivers in  kubuntu lucid?
[23:10] <James147> K350: drivers for what?
[23:11] <James147> zus: not sure why its doing that... you could try purging and reinstalling kubuntu-restricted-extras (or maby just ffmpeg)
[23:12] <K350> James147: graphic-vard
[23:12] <zus> ok ill have a look into that  then
[23:13] <James147> K350: jockey-kde  should be able to install graphics drivers (at least for nvida and probally ati)
[23:13] <K350> James147: Ah, thanks a lot, Really appruciated:-)
[23:14] <K350> James147: well no rutins found...ah..well........
[23:15] <skierpage> Does the 10.04 upgrade log what it does?  It's listing 1400 packages to remove/install/upgrade, I need to save that but I can't select the entire list :-(
[23:21] <das> Does Gnash work ?
[23:22] <wtfplymouth> i think i can stop the torrent now transmission says 32.93 share ratio for ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[23:22] <wtfplymouth> :)
[23:22] <das> wtfplymouth: check mb
[23:23] <das> wtfplymouth: and d ont forget md5 sum
[23:23] <wtfplymouth> a little bit over 22 gb ;)
[23:24] <James147> das: dosent the torrent client do a m5d sum check anyway?
[23:25] <das> James147: not sure i usually check anyway
[23:25] <James147> wtfplymouth: :) i am barly getting to a ration of 1, although ktorrent says there are 56 seeds and no peers
[23:25] <unholyskorn> Hello everyone
[23:25] <unholyskorn> I installed ATi drivers from thier website and restarted and I don't think it is working.  Can someone help me?
[23:25] <das> anyone ever use gnash succesfully?
[23:27] <unholyskorn> No one? hmmm :(
[23:27] <das> unholyskorn: check hardware drivers and see if any proprietary drivers are active
[23:27] <unholyskorn> How do I do that?
[23:27] <unholyskorn> I typed in aticonfig --initial -f in terminal and it says no adapters found or whatever
[23:28] <unholyskorn> No supported adapters found
[23:28] <James147> unholyskorn: run jockey-kde  and see if there are any drivers listed in there
[23:28] <das> unholyskorn: k-menu/applications/system/hardware drivers
[23:29] <James147> unholyskorn: (jockey-kde == "Hardware drivers")
[23:29] <unholyskorn> No proprietary drivers on this system
[23:30] <unholyskorn> I installed the ati drivers fine, and restarted, but when i run ccc:le it asks for my sudo pass and then just disappears
[23:30] <das> unholyskorn: havent had much luck with ati on linux but it does work and they are getting better
[23:30] <unholyskorn> ati-driver-installer-10-4-x86.x86_64.run was what I installed
[23:30] <unholyskorn> I have a ATi X800XT
[23:31] <logicode> Hi there, I'm having troubles trying to play audio using VLC, I'm running Kubuntu 10.04
[23:31] <logicode> anyone?
[23:32] <unholyskorn> Any ideas das or James147?
[23:32] <James147> unholyskorn: sorry, never used ati cards before :p
[23:32] <unholyskorn> arrg
[23:33] <unholyskorn> Is having no proprietary drivers on the system a good thing or a bad thing?
[23:33] <unholyskorn> the ati install said everything installed ok
[23:37] <skierpage> logicode, vlc works for me.  I'm not sure what it uses for audio output by default, I don't think it uses System Settings >Multimedia
[23:37] <unholyskorn> This is incredible, having issues just installing a damn display driver...
[23:38] <skierpage> logicode, If I start vlc from the command line (vlc /usr/share/sounds/k3b_success1.wav) it prints some errors about pulseaudio (which isn't set up by default), but plays fine.
[23:40] <coreberserker> Hello all
[23:40] <vbgunz> anybody know how to enable desktop effects using nvidia-current on 10.04? the driver is working fine but not when it comes to effects.
[23:41] <coreberserker> Can someone tell me how to get my other partitions to mount with out asking for the password everytime. And I'm running Kubuntu 10.04
[23:42] <skierpage> What's the name of the 10.04 upgrade program for the purpose of filing bugs?  It's running "python /tmp/tmpipXc12/lucid" but that's not it ;-)
[23:43] <coreberserker> Can anyone tell me how?
[23:44] <vbgunz> gonna try restarting
[23:44] <skierpage> coreberserker, I'm no expert but the file /etc/fstab lists what partitions should get mounted.  You could as root edit that file and add an entry to it.
[23:44] <James147> coreberserker: just noticed that :S seems to only be on internal drives (well at least not usb flash drives)
[23:45] <coreberserker> Right
[23:45] <len_> If you do an upgrade to 10.04 on a 9.04 system using grub legacy will it convert it to grub 2?  9.04 changed to grub 2 for new installs, but kept grub legacy for upgrades.
[23:45] <James147> coreberserker: if it is an internal drive you want to mount i would suggest what skierpage said and add it to /etc/fstab
[23:46] <unholyskorn> Anyone know how to get ATi drivers to work?
[23:46] <skierpage> coreberserker , what partition are you trying to add?  E.g. the program ntfs-config has some way of adding a Windows NTFS partition.  There might be other UIs.
[23:47] <vbgunz> my desktop effects have been disabled and I cannot enable them. I have nvidia-current. am I missing something?
[23:48] <coreberserker> skierpage , its an NTFS partiton, but it mounts just fine, It just asks for a password to mount it every time but didn't ask for a password in 9.10
[23:48] <skierpage> BTW, to answer my own question it looks like the 10.04 program is dist-upgrade and it writes out a lot of info in /var/log/dist-upgrade.
[23:48] <James147> coreberserker: I would add an entry to /etc/fstab to auto mount it (or to not automount ir but allow user to)
[23:49] <vistakiller> anyone else have problems with suspend?
[23:49] <unholyskorn> Anyone know how to get ATi drivers to work?
[23:49] <panix_> how do i uninstall dolphin ?
[23:49] <skierpage> coreberserker maybe I'll run into that when I complete 10.04.  The line that ntfs-config adds to /etc/fstab looks something like "/dev/sda1 /media/WindowsCdrive ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"
[23:50] <James147> panix_: sudo aptitude remove dolphin   not sure what depends on it though
[23:50] <panix_> i hate dolphin
[23:50] <panix_> why cant i have konquere like the good old days
[23:50] <unholyskorn> I hate this POS operating system that I can't even install video drivers on...
[23:50] <skierpage> coreberserker , try running `sudo ntfs-config` first, and back up /etc/fstab
[23:51] <panix_> what ATI card do you have ?
[23:51] <unholyskorn> X800 XT
[23:51] <panix_> they dont like proprietary drivers because it screws up theyr spyware
[23:52] <unholyskorn> So if you own an ati card you cant use kubuntu?
[23:52] <panix_> you cant install the driver from AMD ?
[23:52] <unholyskorn> That is what I did
[23:52] <unholyskorn> installs fine, restart and it's not working
[23:52] <unholyskorn> run the ccc program, asks for a password and then just exits
[23:53] <panix_> i bet it works fine with deabian stable
[23:53] <panix_> debian stable
[23:53] <vadi01> Teknical: u there?
[23:53] <unholyskorn> run aticonfig and it says no adapters are installed
[23:53] <skierpage> unholyskorn, I use the default free ati drivers (ati_drv.so, radeon_drv.so) from Ubuntu 9.10 and they work fine.  To see what your system is using, search for '.drv' in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  I assume you rebooted.
[23:53] <panix_> i bet it works like charm
[23:53] <skierpage> cheers all.
[23:53] <vadi01> Teknical: any news on your nvidiea?
[23:55] <Teknical> nothing
[23:55] <Teknical> been googling, still havnt installed the driver
[23:55] <panix_> unholyskorn, you need to run lmod
[23:56] <unholyskorn> ?
[23:56] <panix_> lsmod ?
[23:56] <panix_> modprobe to see if the module is installed
[23:56] <vbgunz> my desktop effects in 9.10 worked great. Now in 10.04 I can't even enable them. I downloaded nvidia-current. whats missing? will it help I get this message in the glx dialog of nvidia-settings "Fail to query the GLX server vendor."
[23:57] <panix_> they are trying to piss of the gamers i know the linux comunty
[23:57] <markit> I've a kubuntu 10.04 alpha3 that recognizes automatically my 1920x1080 screen, while last kubuntu does not :( xrandr does not show that resolution either. 9.10 does either. Is it a known issue? Did they broke somehting?
[23:57] <unholyskorn> This kubuntu is a pos
[23:57] <panix_> you cant have fun with games anything other then bashing at promp is forbiden
[23:58] <panix_> i think the proprietary driver dont like the aimbots work so good
[23:58] <panix_> whats a pos ?
[23:58] <unholyskorn> Ok, skierpage i looked in xorg.0.log and it has a whole bunch of crap about ati
[23:59] <panix_> pile of sith :)
[23:59] <coreberserker_> Thanks skierpage and James147 but I figured it out =]