[00:04] <azizLIGHT> looks like its been filed in gnome bugzilla since 2016 so very optimistic
[00:04] <azizLIGHT> at least they know about it
[00:06] <tatertotz> azizLIGHT: things take time..it'll eventually get fixed
[00:07] <tatertotz> azizLIGHT: it doesn't seem to have any negative impact on your use case or usage, so in time you will be able to view the entire thing
[00:08] <azizLIGHT> seems like a design oversight
[00:16] <tatertotz> azizLIGHT: what make/model porsche do you own?
[00:19] <azizLIGHT> how is that relevant to ubuntu
[00:21] <azizLIGHT> temporary solution with some grepping: dbus-monitor "interface='org.freedesktop.Notifications'"
[00:22] <azizLIGHT> youd have to store to file because notifications arent stored anywhere either by gnome
[00:25] <tatertotz> the logs don't contain the same notification?
[00:25] <tatertotz> interesting
[00:27] <tatertotz> everything is so large in your screen shot..almost like you run a 800x600 or 1024x768 desktop resolution
[00:35] <depe> Https://google.com
[00:39] <depe> Hi guys, I have a problem with my ubuntu distro. Basically today I've upgraded it, and now when I turn on the display goes crazy when I boot it. I took a simple video of the problem, if you want to see it https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
[00:40] <ducasse> depe: don't be cute, please
[00:41] <depe> gg man
[00:41] <oerheks> silly troll
[01:26] <dfdf> are there plans to finally throw away firefox from the default install?
[01:27] <dfdf> it should be decided soon as mozilla basically laid off their security team
[01:29] <oerheks> dfdf, no.
[01:30] <dfdf> is there any reason ubuntu still doesn't allow browser selection?
[01:31] <dfdf> or drags that piece of software from release to release
[01:34] <tatertotz> dfdf: my ubuntu allows me to use any browser i choose to install
[01:34] <tatertotz> dfdf: yours does NOT?
[01:34] <tatertotz> dfdf: opera chrome dolphin
[01:34] <dfdf> I tried 19.10 and it has firefox
[01:34] <oerheks> dfdf tons of choise, this is not windows...
[01:34] <dfdf> haven't tried 20.04
[01:35] <tatertotz> dfdf: sounds more like you don't really know how to add/remove software
[01:35] <matsaman> dfdf: it comes with a browser ... that you can replace
[01:36] <oerheks> this is a too simple rant.
[01:36] <dfdf> why not provide a good browser by default?
[01:36] <oerheks> we do. you just don't like it.
[01:37] <leftyfb> dfdf: install something else
[01:37] <leftyfb> dfdf: then go into default applications and change the default
[01:37] <leftyfb> dfdf: good luck
[01:37] <tatertotz> dfdf: why not install the preferred browser?
[01:37] <dfdf> what is the preferred browser?
[01:37] <leftyfb> dfdf: go pick whatever you like
[01:37] <oerheks> answer that yourself?
[01:37] <tatertotz> omg
[01:38] <leftyfb> dfdf: good luck
[01:38] <sarnold> dfdf: first, do-release-upgrade to get to a supported release; second, apt install qutebrowser, knock yourself out :)
[01:38] <oerheks> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:39] <dfdf> what is the reason firefox is preinstalled?
[01:39] <tatertotz> because it is
[01:39] <tatertotz> ISO's are already signed, sealed and delivered/distributed
[01:40] <sonicwind> as I recall, it was the preferred browser in their last survey results
[01:40] <oerheks> because .. opensource?
[01:40] <leftyfb> dfdf: this is a support channel. If you have a support question, please ask your question in detail, preferably with any error messages. If you do not have any support questions, feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:40] <oerheks> is there any ubuntu support question in this?
[01:41] <dfdf> i'm asking if there will be any reaction on that incident: https://twitter.com/MichalPurzynski/status/1293220570885062657
[01:42] <leftyfb> dfdf: this isn't the place for that. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:43] <oerheks> answered.
[04:16] <alegarod> Hi. My Ubuntu Server kernel hasn't been updated by apt for a few weeks. Current installed version is 5.4.0-42-generic. Is that the version I should have?
[04:18] <k_sze> Has anybody experienced weird mouse scroll behaviour in Ubuntu 18.04 (x86-64) where using the mouse scroll wheel would sometimes cause the page to scroll all the way to the bottom?
[04:19] <alegarod> Sorry, didn't mention Ubuntu Server version. Is 20.04.
[04:25] <rjwiii> k_sze: you need a new mouse ... :)
[04:25] <k_sze> I don't think it's a problem with my mouse.
[04:26] <k_sze> It's not like my mouse is issuing scroll events too quickly or something like that.
[04:26] <k_sze> scrolling in games still work as expected.
[04:27] <rjwiii> k_sze: you'd be surprised
[04:27] <k_sze> It's that at least some applications seem to respond weirdly. VS Code is definitely one of them. I can't remember whether Firefox does the same.
[04:27] <rjwiii> k_sze: mice fail in weird ways ... have you tried a different mouse?
[04:32] <k_sze> My laptop also has a trackpad. If I can reproduce the same weird scrolling behaviour using the trackpad, then I know the problem is not with my mouse per se.
[04:33] <k_sze> I just don't use my trackpad enough to notice. I'll try more often.
[04:40] <rjwiii> k_sze: try a different mouse ... g
[05:35] <alegarod> Hi. Ubuntu Server 20.04 kernel hasn't been updated by apt for a few weeks. Current installed version is 5.4.0-42-generic #46. Is that the expected version? "apt policy linux-generic" already shows <IP_ADDRESS>.46 for Canditate version.
[05:45] <retran> alegarod, I wonder if there's a place on the web you can check?
[05:53] <EriC^> !info linux-generic | alegarod
[05:54] <EriC^> it'sthe latest
[06:07] <alegarod> @retran: I checked in https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ that latest 5.4 version is 5.4.58 However, latest version provided by apt is usually lower. Thanks.
[06:08] <alegarod> @ubottu. Ok, thanks. :) I wonder why this time it has taken longer. 5.4.42 is from 2020-05-20.
[06:12] <Hejkki> libdvd-pkg: `apt-get check` failed, you may have broken packages. Aborting...
[06:12] <Hejkki> how to fix? :\
[06:12] <Hejkki> trying to install woeusb
[06:20] <EriC^> Hejkki: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:30] <Hejkki> EriC^: it just removes the woeusb, it does not install the dependencies
[06:31] <Hejkki> it depends on libwxgtk3.0-0v5 which does not exist
[06:33] <Hejkki> :o
[06:39] <Hejkki> 08:30 < Hejkki> EriC^: it just removes the woeusb, it does not install the dependencies
[06:40] <Hejkki> 08:31 < Hejkki> it depends on libwxgtk3.0-0v5 which does not exist
[06:40] <Hejkki> welcome back, EriC^^  ;)
[06:40] <EriC^^> thanks
[06:40] <EriC^^> !info woeusb
[06:41] <Hejkki> yea, true
[06:41] <EriC^^> perhaps use a snap if you trust the developer?
[06:41] <EriC^^> https://snapcraft.io/woe-usb
[06:41] <Hejkki> i followed this guide for 20.04 https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu
[06:41] <Hejkki> ok, i will do that
[06:42] <EriC^^> are you making a uefi-compatible windows usb?
[06:42] <EriC^^> cause you can easily make it yourself if you'll only be using it in uefi mode
[06:43] <Hejkki> dunno, i think the old laptop isn
[06:43] <Hejkki> isn't uefi
[06:43] <Hejkki> but yes, windows usb
[06:44] <EriC^^> aha
[06:44] <retran> it's over 10 yo?
[06:44] <Hejkki> nope
[06:44] <Hejkki> around 6-7
[06:48] <Hejkki> ok, i managed to install it using snap, but... sudo woe-usb.woeusbgui says mkdir: cannot create directory '/run/user/0': Permission denied
[06:51] <Hejkki> it also says 09:50:34: Error: Unable to initialize GTK+, is DISPLAY set properly?
[07:01] <Hejkki> over 2 years old bug and nothing done for that?
[07:04] <Hejkki> giving up, booting my other laptop to windows
[07:12] <retran> snaps suck?
[08:28] <josya> command
[08:29] <Dovid> Hi. I am new to ubuntu packages. If I see a package that I need (for instance https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ipmitool). I tried apt install impitool and it's coming back with "E: Unable to locate package impitool" is it becuase I dont have a repo enabled?
[08:30] <teasd> Got a bit of a problem with the Ubuntu 20.04 Server installation. I'm trying to install it on a VMware virtual machine, but eventually the installation process hangs indefinitely at "configuring multipath". https://i.imgur.com/lN5rfSK.png Anyone as an idea what I can do?
[08:30] <kre10> hey guys, how are you :)  Can you please help me with something? I'm searching for TVHeadend for ubuntu focal(raspberry 4, ubuntu 64).
[08:34] <bindi> Dovid: it seems you mistyped ipmitool into impitool
[08:34] <prominentpotato> @Dovid apt install impitool <- typo
[08:34] <Dovid> bindi: TY
[08:34] <Dovid> prominentpotato:TY
[08:48] <teasd> Works without LVM. Couldn't get it to complete installation with LVM...
[10:14] <rbnm> Hi! Grub problem at new install on dual boot. Windows made the EFI partition with NTFS and grub2 doesn't recognize it as EFI and I think grub2 doesn't work on NTFS EFI partition. Which would be the best solution? Reformat EFI with VFAT and recopy its contents? If I do that I would be able to boot windows again? Thanks.
[10:17] <JohnGavr> rbnm, https://askubuntu.com/questions/197868/grub-does-not-detect-windows
[10:17] <JohnGavr> boot ubuntu, mount the windows partition
[10:18] <JohnGavr> run sudo os-prober and then update grub
[10:25] <rbnm> The question was: grub-install on NTFS EFI partition doesn't work. I think grub2 doesn't support NTFS on EFI. And now Windows makes NTFS EFI parts.
[10:35] <Mat63> ni
[10:35] <Mat63> hi
[10:35] <Mat63> I try with alt + xxx and nothing happens
[10:38] <Mat63> I don't want to combine other keys, maybe my screen locks
[10:40] <oerheks> rbnm, ntfs?
[10:40] <oerheks> read the UEFI manual, fat32
[10:40] <oerheks> !uefi
[10:45] <rbnm> thanks ubottu oerheks JohnGavr I will reformat the NTFS partition to fat32. I hope I won't have to reinstall windows if I recopy all the files...
[10:46] <JohnGavr> reformat the ntfs partition to fat32? very risky
[10:46] <oerheks> i think you need reinstall.. why did you change it to ntfs? oh, i don't want to know
[10:48] <rbnm> I meant the EFI part to fat32. Now windows 10 makes it NTFS. It's not the fisrt time I found this problem. I found some BIOS that also don't support NTFS EFI with computer with early adoption of UEFI
[10:52] <oerheks> no, windows does not.  good luck with reinstall
[11:32] <jil> hi
[11:33] <jil> I'm trying to secure my computer and checking ports with `ss -ua`.  I see a <IP_ADDRESS>:bootpc and wonder if this is standard on local personall laptop ?
[11:35] <tatertotz> do you know what you're doing?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> so i've got an ubuntu server 20.04 vm that i just added a graphical environment to (don't ask) and upon gnome login i'm presented with some kind of dialog about livepatch that obscures the desktop.
[12:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, nm, there's a next button in the corner. apparently i _don't_ have to sign up for livepatch.
[12:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> nm
[12:27] <marcoagpinto> hello
[12:27] <marcoagpinto> I installed a fresh VM with 20.04.1
[12:28] <marcoagpinto> I tried to install the Tor Browser, but Ubuntu no longer executes .xz files
[12:28] <marcoagpinto> how do I do it?
[12:41] <rjwiii>  marcoagpinto: it may be a compressed file ... you may need to un-tar it first ...
[12:45] <marcoagpinto> rjwiii: I installed it on 18.04 a year or so ago and just had to double-click in it
[12:45] <marcoagpinto> now it opens as an archive
[12:46] <rjwiii> marcoagpinto: extract it, then cd to the new directory ... there should be a README file in there somewhere ...
[12:50] <marcoagpinto> I installed on 18.04 a year or so ago
[12:50] <marcoagpinto> and there is no README file
[12:50] <marcoagpinto> I extracted it
[13:54] <nbusrone> how do I run a bash script on start up ?
[13:55] <nbusrone> I created a script https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vSfBc7wgc7/ then chmod 774
[13:57] <EriC^^> nbusrone: startup apps program
[13:57] <nbusrone> Add a service on 'gedit /etc/systemd/system/turnoffmonitor.service' https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zmqMtNKD7b/
[13:57] <nbusrone> EriC^^ : how do I add at startup apps ?
[13:58] <EriC^^> nbusrone: there's a program called startup
[13:58] <nbusrone> EriC^^ : First is my script run on terminal command correctly ?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vSfBc7wgc7/
[13:58] <EriC^^> nbusrone: that's when your user logs in though it'll run, not when the login screen appears
[13:59] <nbusrone> EriC^^ : I need to know my script correct or not.
[13:59] <EriC^^> nbusrone: i dunno about the xset command, but echo only echos
[13:59] <EriC^^> nbusrone: dont you have the command to reverse it?
[14:01] <nbusrone> EriC^^ : i know nothing about bash :(
[14:02] <nbusrone> EriC^^ : how should I write ?
[14:03] <nbusrone> EriC^^ : but when I excute it'll run on terminal but on bash how to code to run on terminal ?
[14:03] <dbristow> 18.04.5 is supposed to be released today.
[14:04] <nbusrone> EriC^^ : any help really appreciated
[14:06] <RERO25> Hi
[14:07] <RERO25> I need help
[14:07] <RERO25> hi
[14:08] <RERO25> hello
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> !ask | RERO25
[14:09] <RERO25> I have bad sound quality on my system, when the volume is high
[14:10] <RERO25> i use pulseEffects to equalize the sound to make it treble, bcs my headphones are bass boosted and can't change that
[14:10] <RERO25> so when i use pulseEffects, and play music in slightly high volume it starts distorting
[14:25] <Sven_vB> sounds like it could well be one of the hardware components reaching its audio level limit.
[14:27] <CoolerX> I am getting a crash while trying to install ubuntu 20.04 in virtualbox
[14:27] <CoolerX> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1880277
[14:28] <CoolerX> The error report shows ubiquity as the executable path
[14:28] <CoolerX> it mentions ubiquity in a few places
[14:28] <CoolerX> how can I resolve this?
[14:29] <CoolerX> actually hold on I need to restart
[14:47] <p0a> Hello
[14:47] <p0a> Why would an application not register me clicking it?
[14:53] <prominentpotato> p0a Either there's no click handler, it throws an error before something that lets you notice it was clicked happens or you've got an element above the click target that intercepts the click.
[14:53] <prominentpotato> Ah, wait, wrong channel.
[14:54] <prominentpotato> The missing handler could be the cause anyway.
[14:54] <p0a> prominentpotato: Something is up, not sure what. I am using virtualbox from ubuntu repo
[14:54] <p0a> and using a pen, not a mouse
[14:56] <prominentpotato> Never did that, but have you tried changing a setting under System > Pointing Device to something else?
[14:57] <p0a> will give it a try, thank you prominentpotato
[15:13] <rr123> i installed gcc-10 and update-alternatives to it, but the manpage of gcc stays gcc-9, what's the proper way to sync manpage when update-alternatives happened?
[15:36] <Vision> What does systemd-resolved do?  Like why is it running by default taking up port 53?
[15:36] <Vision> I know it's DNS but... I use external DNS
[15:40] <pavlos> Vision: provides name resolution to local apps via D-Bus. If it cannot resolve, it goes to your external DNS
[15:41] <Vision> hmm.
[15:42] <Vision> fair enough :)
[15:44] <leftyfb> Vision: you should leave it. It's also DNS caching. You can see your external DNS configured with "systemd-resolve --status|grep "DNS Servers""
[15:49] <Vision> leftyfb: well, a docker project I'm wanting to use (for web development) involves running its own DNS server
[15:49] <Vision> easy enough to disable the resolved but... just didn't know why it was there in the first place
[15:55] <ddssss> hello, i have some issue with my ubuntu 17.04 server, i am not able to ssh to it and i currently have IPMI session to connect to my server. Once i connect to my server, i do "ip a" and that main interface is down, so i try something like ip link set dev eno1 up, it goes up, but i guess there is no ipv4 assigned to it
[15:56] <ddssss> i checked my interfaces file and it has iface eno1 inet dhcp in it, and i can't ping any site
[15:56] <leftyfb> !eol | ddssss
[15:56] <leftyfb> ddssss: Ubuntu 17.04 went EOL 3 years ago
[15:57] <ddssss> oh, so can this has something to do with the server being down atm?
[15:57] <ddssss> i mean not connecting to the internet etc
[15:58] <leftyfb> ddssss: unlikely, but we generally do not support EOL releases
[15:58] <ddssss> i wonder what does it mean when i am on my IPMI session and i do lsb_release -a and i see KALI GNU/Rolling
[15:58] <ddssss> shouldn't I see Ubuntu there?
[15:58] <ddssss> as usual i mean
[15:59] <leftyfb> ddssss: ddssss then you are not running a supported release of Ubuntu at all. You're running #kali
[15:59] <leftyfb> !kali | ddssss
[15:59] <ddssss> i am not ssh in my server, i am just in my IPMI session and hit "ctrl+alt+f1" to see that screen
[15:59] <ddssss> last time i checked i had ubuntu on and i am sure i installed it myself, odd..
[15:59] <ddssss> hm
[15:59] <leftyfb> ddssss: please /join #kali-linux for support
[16:00] <leftyfb> ddssss: also maybe your hosted services provider
[16:00] <ddssss> sure will do, but i checked my control panel and it explicitly stated Ubuntu in there
[16:01] <leftyfb> ddssss: contact your hosted services provider
[16:01] <ddssss> I've done that a couple of times and since my server is unmanaged so all they tell me is to either check the HDD state and if it's not going fine, I need to reinstall OS
[16:02] <leftyfb> ddssss: with so many unanswered questions and lack of support, I would install Ubuntu 20.04 on it
[16:02] <ddssss> I somehow suspect the HDD to be the issue, server was running fine till it went down for me being late in my payment invoice and it never came boot up normally since that downtime
[16:03] <leftyfb> ddssss: good luck
[16:03] <ddssss> i would but i guess i can't do much atm, i don't even see ubuntu, it's odd, but it's first time for me to ssh to my server via the IDRAC ipmi session.
[16:03] <ddssss> thanks
[16:16] <pyzozord> Hello I see a massive directory in /var/lib/snapd - 3.7GB, can I clean that up? I can see inside /var/lib/snapd/snaps mmultiple versions of many programs each taking 100+ mbs
[16:25] <CuChulaind> hello. lsblk lists /dev/sda3 as having 837.1GB then underneath it lists ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv with 200G, does this mean that I am only using 200 of the 837GB?
[16:30] <snake-venom> i am trying to clone git rep on my local Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS machine. server admin setup public key , and asking me to clone via pvt key path ..
[16:32] <snake-venom> this command says " unknown option: -i "  git -i '/home/me_user/.ssh/onexone' clone git@<IP_ADDRESS>:newsystem
[16:32] <snake-venom> but i am using git on my machine..
[16:32] <courrier> Hello! I'm using ImageMagick 6.9.10-23 (default for 20.04) ... look at this, how is that final resolution possible? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XkQNNgQkgy/
[16:35] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[16:35] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, no
[16:35] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: okay
[16:36] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, I am ssh'd into the device
[16:37] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: and the device is connected to the internet?
[16:37] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, yes
[16:38] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: in terminal>       df -h|nc termbin.com 9999
[16:38] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[16:39] <CuChulaind> https://termbin.com/elig
[16:39] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: or just understand that the url/link shows a less doubt filled way for you to know what "you're using" from a disk capacity perspective
[16:39] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, that doesn't list my sda3
[16:40] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, https://termbin.com/qces
[16:40] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: i don't see that you have 800GB anywhere
[16:41] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: did you run this on the correct computer?
[16:41] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: in terminal>       lsblk|nc termbin.com 9999
[16:41] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[16:41] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, see: https://termbin.com/qces
[16:41] <CuChulaind>   which shows the 837.1G
[16:41] <CuChulaind> under sda3
[16:41] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: looks to me your disk is at most about 200GB
[16:42] <CuChulaind> but the LVM is only 200 GB
[16:42] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, then what is the 837G?
[16:42] <jayjo> in the software updater under "Other updates" I have LLVM C++ Standard Library 3KB that has been in the update list for nearly one year, through major dist upgrades, but cannot be selected or updated. Is there a way to fix this?
[16:42] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: oh now i see your disk and logical volume size of approx 200GB
[16:43] <snake-venom> i want to install GitExtensions but did not find any tutorial to install it on my ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS
[16:43] <snake-venom> any reference Please
[16:43] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: none the less you have 174G "available"
[16:44] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: and 13GB "used"
[16:44] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, how's that out of the 831G?
[16:45] <CuChulaind> sda shows 838.1 total available, 1G for boot
[16:46] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: your disk is 800+GB capacity, but you are not able to realize that space
[16:46] <CuChulaind> tatertotz, why not?
[16:46] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: you have 174G "available"
[16:46] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: and 13GB "used"
[16:47] <CuChulaind> why is it showing up, but not available?
[16:48] <jelly> CuChulaind, because there's lots of space in LVM VG that's not allocated to a LV.  you need to grow the LV and the filesystem for /
[16:48] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: it's how the disk was provisioned for use
[16:48] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: also realize you're looking at lsblk instead of https://termbin.com/elig
[16:48] <CuChulaind> I did this via the fresh install that I allowed it to use the whole disk
[16:49] <CuChulaind> lvmdiskscan: https://termbin.com/d31u
[16:49] <tatertotz> CuChulaind: this is what space you actually have to work with https://termbin.com/elig
[16:49] <CuChulaind> jelly, how do I grow it?
[16:50] <jelly> CuChulaind, this is good, because it allows for more flexibility.  This way, you can resize the LV when you need it, you can create snapshots, you can create temprorary new LVs and filesystems and delete them later
[16:50] <CuChulaind> Or rather how do I do a re-install of this fresh OS to take advantage of the entire drive?
[16:50] <CuChulaind> jelly indeed, but for now I want / need to grow the current lvm to bigger than 200GB
[16:50] <jelly> CuChulaind, if you want to eg give 100G more to this ubuntu installation's / filesystem and the LV underneath, you'd do:
[16:51] <jelly> CuChulaind, lvresize -L +100G -r /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv
[16:51] <jelly> ... as root
[16:52] <jelly> I strongly suggest not giving ALL the space to that LV and filesystem right away.
[16:52] <jelly> CuChulaind, do you need more than 174GB _right now_?
[16:52] <CuChulaind> jelly, thank you! I got as far as sudo lvresize -L +100G but not how to target
[16:53] <jelly> if you're going to need more/lots of space temporarily, you could create a new LV and new filesystem instead
[16:53] <CuChulaind> jelly, I do. Using half the space now works for me :)
[16:54] <jelly> because it's very easy to extend an existing LV and filesystem, but it's very hard to reduce/shrink it
[16:55] <CuChulaind> jelly, thank you!
[16:55] <jelly> CuChulaind, output of "df" command is more readable than "mount" if you need to figure out device (/dev/...) names for mounted filesystems
[16:56] <jelly> df /
[16:56] <jelly> Filesystem           1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on
[16:56] <jelly> /dev/mapper/vg0-luna  75213960 68236288   3563952  96% /
[16:56] <CuChulaind> Now I see that df lists the LVM under /dev/mapper/xxxx
[16:56] <CuChulaind> I was missing that before
[16:57] <jelly> yeah, /dev/mapper/vg0-luna is basically the same thing and /dev/vg0/luna
[16:57] <jelly> s/and/as/
[16:57] <jelly> it's okay to use either path with lvextend / lvresize
[16:58] <CuChulaind> jelly, very good to know, that I can leave out the mapper
[16:59] <jelly> you can't merely leave it out, there are slight differences
[16:59] <CuChulaind> ah
[17:01] <Betal> isn't mapper supose to be internal usage ?
[17:01] <jelly> but /dev/VGname/LVname is the canonical path and is supposed to always exist; names under /dev/mapper/ vary slightly; if there's a - in the name of either VG or LV, then it gets doubled
[17:01] <leftyfb> tatertotz: df only shows mounted filesystems
[17:01] <leftyfb> tatertotz: df is not a good tool to use to troubleshoot drive sizes
[17:02] <jelly> Betal, sure, but if you recognize the desired device it's easier to just copy/paste /dev/mapper/vg-lv than to manually type in /dev/vg/lv
[17:04] <tatertotz> leftyfb: I'm aware df shows mounted filesystem
[17:04] <tatertotz> leftyfb: can't use anything that is "unmounted" or N/A
[17:04] <leftyfb> tatertotz: I correct
[17:05] <leftyfb> incorrect *
[17:05] <leftyfb> tatertotz: as jelly pointed out by discovering it was an LVM volume that just needed to be resized
[17:11] <dbristow> ubuntu 18.04.5 and its minions are now available
[17:11] <dbristow> although for some reason cdimage.ubuntu.com doesn't have its usual files
[17:11] <dbristow> had to get it from mirrors.mit.edu/ubuntu-cdimage
[17:12] <dbristow> Ahh, figured it out.  ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com is no longer synonomous with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[17:15] <jelly> leftyfb, that was visible from lsblk output
[17:15] <leftyfb> jelly: right. That was the correct tool to navigate. Which is what CuChulaind posted originally
[17:16] <jelly> lsblk shows nested block devs and sizes and LVM LVs have recognizable device names
[17:16] <dbristow> I like lsblk
[17:16] <nbusrone> Anyone know how to run a single command at every startup ? like  (  xrandr --output DVI-0 --brightness 0.5 )
[17:16] <dbristow> I also like ncdu
[17:19] <dbristow> Not all 18.04.5 minions are availble, for example ubuntu-budgie doesn't have 18.04.5 yet
[17:19] <CuChulaind> lsblk was easier for me to pinpoint the lvm, but not the full path of the mount obviously
[17:19] <dbristow> Have to wait a few hours, I guess
[17:19] <jelly> is it really mandatory to log in to see raw paste content on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:20] <tatertotz> leftyfb: was that LVM user created or as a result of selecting encryption or something in the ubuntu installer? the unencrypted 20.04 installation i just did doesn't use LVM?
[17:21] <tatertotz> leftyfb: nvm..if the user had created it he probably would be aware of it's capacity
[17:29] <dbristow> Hmm, it appears that lsftp http mode can't correctly parse http://cdimage.ubuntu.com for some reason
[17:29] <dbristow> Going to have to use wget
[17:34] <jelly> tatertotz, lvm is probably the best option for a laptop or workstation until something like btrfs or zfs becomes 100% reliable and safe
[17:38] <dbristow> jelly: I hear fedora 33 is going to have btrfs as the default filesystem for new installs
[17:41] <jelly> fedora has historically pushed new tech onto their users, I still remember free work done by fedora users making selinux policies actually useful (and used later for RHEL)
[17:57] <dbristow> Anybody know why ubuntu-studio is not release 18.04.x point releases?
[17:59] <tripleb> The Sleeper Awakens.  https://youtu.be/p3D3LX_ZA78
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> dbristow: maybe its not marked ready yet
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> tripleb: please only ubuntu issues here
[18:00] <dbristow> lotuspsychje: No, there's only an 18.04 release, nothing sooner
[18:00] <dbristow> lotuspsychje: No, there's only an 18.04 release, nothing later
[18:00] <tripleb> oh wrong channek
[18:00] <dbristow> But they have 20.04.1
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> dbristow: #ubuntu-quality released the .5 flavours a few hours ago, studio didnt show amongst them yet
[18:09] <dbristow> lotuspsychje: What I'm saying is, there's only 18.04, no 18.04.1, .2, .3, .4 or .5
[18:09] <dbristow> So I don't expect an 18.04.5 to appear, just wondering why
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> dbristow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> dbristow: seems like it was only supported 9 months
[18:27] <Eickmeyer> lotuspsychje: dbristow: 18.04 was not an LTS release for Ubuntu Studio. This was well-documented and well-announced.
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> tnx Eickmeyer
[18:29] <dbristow> Eickmeyer: Ahh.
[18:30] <dbristow> It's not like I was using it, I only download them so that I can give stuff out at NYLUG meetings
[18:30] <dbristow> When(if) we have them ever again :(
[18:31] <afidegnum> what utility do i need to set up a local/mock email server to be used locally?
[18:50] <ub3g33k> postfix?
[18:53] <donofrio> what is command from 18.04 to 20.04.01
[18:54] <coconut> !LTSupgrade | donofrio
[18:54] <coconut> oh... that ! is not correct
[18:55] <tomreyn> why not?
[18:55] <coconut> tomreyn, it's not with -d option anymore afaik
[18:58] <tomreyn> coconut: unless you're on i386, yes, should work.
[18:59] <coconut> i see
[18:59] <Hamilton1> How can I add/remove stuff from $PATH?
[19:01] <EriC^^> Hamilton1: adding, PATH=${PATH}:/newstuff
[19:02] <koffel> okay now i went with 16.04 and now i can't get my nas to mount without error  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -6
[19:02] <Hamilton1> EriC^^, Is there a GUI for it?
[19:02] <EriC^^> Hamilton1: removing probably PATH=${PATH with some parameter expansion similar to sed's syntax, "man bash"
[19:03] <tomreyn> koffel: you seem to be referring to something you discussed previously, but i don't see someone with your exact nickname discussing something else here recently.
[19:03] <EriC^^> Hamilton1: not that i know of, you can modify PATH using your ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc
[19:04] <tomreyn> koffel: so i suggest to also discuss the overall situation / goals.
[19:04] <koffel> you all suggested to upgrade ubuntu from 14.04
[19:05] <koffel> i did now nas and nvr now error out because nas has error 6
[19:08] <tomreyn> koffel: and how are you mounting it?
[19:09] <koffel> threw fstab
[19:11] <tomreyn> return code 6 means the following applies:
[19:11] <tomreyn>    2      system error (out of memory, cannot fork, no more loop devices)
[19:11] <tomreyn>    4      internal mount bug
[19:12] <koffel> tomreyn i mount like this <IP_ADDRESS>/8.2 /mnt/device/1 cifs username=new,password=new,uid=nobody,iocharset=utf8,noperm 0 0
[19:12] <koffel> not out of memory it has 192gb
[19:12] <tomreyn> try adding mount option vers=2.0
[19:13] <tomreyn> or vers=1.0
[19:13] <koffel> were i add it
[19:13] <tomreyn> depending on what the NAS provides
[19:13] <koffel> xmagia
[19:13] <tomreyn> hmm?
[19:13] <koffel> freenas
[19:13] <koffel> i am using
[19:14] <tomreyn> it would help me help you if you were to write full sentences.
[19:14] <koffel> i should of stayed with 14.04 it was working expect for 980ti.
[19:14] <tomreyn> you can add the mount option to the respective fstab line you just posted above.
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> 14.04 is eol
[19:15] <koffel> yeah 14.04 was eol but it worked unlike 16.04 has issues
[19:15] <tomreyn> the options you have there now are "username=new,password=new,uid=nobody,iocharset=utf8,noperm", so just append it, seperated by a comma.
[19:15] <koffel> yeah
[19:27] <coconut> if i don't use do-release upgrade, and use only apt upgrade, will i then also upgrade from 20.04 to 20.04.1 eventually?
[19:28] <oerheks> coconut,  yes
[19:29] <coconut> oh...just checked lsb_release -a ##for that, thnx
[19:50] <realtime-neil> How does one restore the "Region & Language" tab to the gnome-control-center?
[19:51] <tomreyn> hmm, are you saying it vanished, all by itself? got some more context?
[19:54] <realtime-neil> tomreyn: I did a desktop install of Bionic, I purged these (aisleriot cheese firefox gnome-games gnome-initial-setup gnome-mahjongg gnome-mines gnome-sudoku libreoffice* remmina* rhythmbox shotwell* simple-scan thunderbird transmission* unity-webapps-common) and noticed a conspicuous lack of "Region & Language" tab in the "settings" gui.
[19:57] <tomreyn> realtime-neil: i guess you can just install ubuntu-desktop or see what would be installed and would seem relevant
[19:58] <realtime-neil> tomreyn: it's already installed
[19:59] <tomreyn> realtime-neil: hmm, what about language-selector-gnome and language-pack* ?
[20:00] <realtime-neil> language-selector-gnome is already installed; checking on language-pack*...
[20:03] <realtime-neil> tomreyn: looks like I have four matches for that glob: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nnnBfSyRP2/
[20:05] <tomreyn> realtime-neil: language-selector-common is also installed?
[20:06] <realtime-neil> tomreyn: it's installed
[20:06] <tomreyn> realtime-neil: is the system full yupdated?
[20:07] <tomreyn> !uptodate
[20:07] <realtime-neil> tomreyn: just did an update and upgrade, rebooting to start fresh
[20:10] <oerheks> check dpkg log for what has been removed.
[20:11] <oerheks> or dpkg.log.1/2/3/4/5
[20:12] <tomreyn> i guess it'll be back after updating. if not, run     gnome-control-center region    from a terminal, and share the output (on a pastebin).
[20:18] <realtime-neil> tomreyn: wow, `gnome-control-center region` just magically made that tab appear. Now, invoking `gnome-control-center` brings me to that tab every time.
[20:20] <tomreyn> realtime-neil: hmm, strange, i'm not sure how this would happen, but i'm also not sure how this software works exactly.
[20:25] <realtime-neil> tomreyn: welp, that's one problem solved --- thanks very much for your help!
[20:26] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[20:38] <dlynes> Is there a wxWindows 2.8 set of packages available for 20.04?
[20:38] <dlynes> Having to support some legacy software that requires it
[20:42] <oerheks> wxwindows or wxwidgets?
[21:04] <karlpinc> Does the stock ubuntu 18 unattended-upgrade config automatically do minor release upgrades?
[21:25] <genkgo> I am having a networking issue. The problem is that I cannot connect via SSH to my VM on its local address unless I remove the external interface. I feel this has to do with routing, but I do not have the knowledge. If someone could help to get this working at runtime, that would be appreciated. Since I am using cloud-init/proxmox, persistency of this setup is the step afterwards.
[21:30] <genkgo> So the two network interfaces are both with static IP. Connections from the machine to the rest of the world works, and I can also connect to the internal work. Reaching the machine with SSH on its public IP works. So the only problem is reaching the machine with SSH on its private IP.
[21:39] <isene> From HP-41 to pocket Ubuntu: https://isene.org/2020/08/Nerding.html
[21:43] <sarnold> isene: have you seen droid48 yet?
[21:44] <isene> sarnold: But of course 😊
[21:45] <sarnold> isene: cool cool :)
[21:47] <isene> HP calculators is my home turf. Got several HP-41 MCODE modules up on GitHub. Used to program the 48 quite a bit. Doing stuff on the HP-25LP (an HP-25 hardware upgrade by Bernhard Emese) nowadays.
[21:52] <aum> Is there any way to limit snapd's memory usage? On my fresh 20.04 LTS install snapd is eating 1.2GB. I haven't installed anything under snap myself.
[21:53] <sarnold> aum: could you file a bug report on that? ubuntu-bug snapd   ought to do the thing
[21:54] <aum> sarnold, that's ok for putting it into the fix pipeline, I'll do that, but is there anything I can do now to limit it? I'm on a machine with just 4GB RAM, and the 20.04 install only allocated 2GB swap
[21:55] <axsuul> I'm getting the error" out of memory allocating heap arena map" however I seem to have plenty of free RAM  (total, used, free: 16398664, 4675564, 1976308). Any suggestions on where else to look?
[21:55] <sarnold> aum: nothing I know of; at least if it's actually idle, it'll eventually be moved largely to swap, but still that usage seems funny high for something that's not doing anything yet
[21:56] <aum> sarnold, apparently the 20.04 install has gnome under snap
[21:56] <aum> I could toss gnome completely
[22:19] <Aavar> Maybe the wrong place to ask... Any good IRC-Clients that support modern features like link- and image previews ?
[22:19] <sarnold> Aavar: that feels like features matrix or the lounge may offer
[22:20] <Aavar> sarnold: I am using the loung and it's great, but a native (even electron would work) would be great. I'll check out matrix
[22:22] <Aavar> sarnold: I see matrix is not a native gui app eighter :(
[22:22] <sarnold> Aavar: konversation maybe? it's native gui
[22:23] <Aavar> sarnold: I tried that. Sadly it does not have the features i'm looking for.
[22:23] <Aavar> Is there a simple way to make an application of sorts from a webpage?
[22:24] <sarnold> Aavar: aha! then there is an opportunity for you to start your own with the features you'd like it to have :
[22:25] <Intelo> Is OBS studio enough to record an echoless sound and highest quality video?
[22:25] <Aavar> sarnold: Haha, sadly I don't know any programming :(
[22:34] <Intelo> Is OBS studio enough to record an echoless sound and highest quality video? Can echo be completely eliminated by software instead of forms/hardware on walls?
[23:09] <louis771> Hi there - I have Ubuntu 20.04 installed with the ZFS option. Obviously now every time I install a package, there is a snapshot created. So I have now so many snapshots, my question is, how can I delete them?
[23:10] <sarnold> louis771: I think zsys may automatically prune them as the pool gets more use -- check around zsys for documentation, there may be knobs to fiddle with
[23:11] <louis771> sarnold: thanks!
[23:56] <ComputerTech> hmm. can anyone tell me how to change the language on ubuntu virtualbox?
[23:56] <ComputerTech> it's currently in french
[23:57] <ComputerTech> like anyone know the icon to change the language?