 I also would like to introduce monthly meetings for the KC+devs
 I'm working on a list of topics.
[19:51] <valorie> nice to see you active again, @ahoneybun
[20:32] <valorie> and guest starring in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUI213LotM
[20:32] <valorie> lol
 I don't know what you are talking about as I wasn't in that video ;)
 valorie I kinda went on autopilot the last 4 years lol
 sorry about that.
[21:44] <valorie> @ahoneybun I have it on good authority that you are in that video, just a bit disguised
[21:47] <valorie> so you don't have to look out the window: https://www.twitch.tv/Linuxgnuru
[21:47] <valorie> we have sunshine here....
 I'm at the office by the window so I can see the snow lol
 I want to install Kalendar and Kube as they are the future


[07:42] <pavlushka> u-la-la: tell roxy117 to register his nick by "/msg nickserv register some_password email"
[07:42] <u-la-la> pavlushka: I'll pass that on when roxy117 is around.


[11:28] <Amijai> I need help with configuring ubuto gnome shell to start on Xorg screen 1.1
[11:29] <Amijai> I added a second GPU and the nvidia driver insists adding screen 1 for the monitors connected to it
[11:30] <Amijai> the monitors turn on, black background and only the X pointer shows on them


 I guess it's time to read a strategy guide
[12:46] <brousch> Oh this is lovely http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/08/05/0344244/synolocker-0-day-ransomware-puts-nas-files-at-risk
[12:46] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/fqzdA8 - Synolocker 0-Day Ransomware Puts NAS Files At Risk - Slashdot
[12:54] <jrwren> your fault for running synology instead of building your own linux nas like a good linux user.
[12:54] <jrwren> :p j/k
[12:55] <brousch> Well I'm not fool enough to expose it to the Internet
[12:59] <brousch> jrwren: Your comment is not a joke on many other Linux forums
[13:01] <jrwren> I know. :(  Its one of the reasons that I'm not a proud community member.
[13:01] <jrwren> I hear they function as pretty good routers too. The dual nic synologies that is.
[13:34] <nullspace> I've seen tons of embedded device vulenablities
[13:42] <jrwren> nullspace: me too.  I rarely see such vulnerabilities in the higher rep stuff.
[13:52] <cmaloney> brousch: Yeah, there's much more under the surface of a go game than meets the "eye"
[13:52] <cmaloney> I'd recommend picking up "Beginning Go" as a good starting point
[13:53] <cmaloney> The "So You Want To Play Go" series is good as well, but is pretty chatty and doesn't tend to go too far in depth at the beginner levels.
[13:53] <jrwren> You might say it takes a minute to learn and a lifetime to master.
[13:54] <cmaloney> If you wanted to be a cheezy commercial for a game, yes.
[14:07] <nullspace> jrwren: way to quote the tag line for othelloe
[14:07] <cmaloney> Which is anything but a game that takes a lifetime to master. :)
[14:08] <cmaloney> brousch: Seriously, this game is fin. :)
[14:08] <cmaloney> Those stones are dead dead dead
[14:09] <cmaloney> All we're doing is taking territory from the final score.
[14:27] <brousch> I guess there was less on the left than I thought
[14:36] <cmaloney> Yeah, and the stones in the corner were dead
[14:36] <cmaloney> That's what your other game is trying to teach you.
[14:37] <brousch> Well my other game says half of the board is dead even though it's open space
[14:38] <cmaloney> link?
[14:38] <brousch> So the scoring has me confused again
[14:38] <brousch> How did I get 30? 10 prisoners + 16 territories = 30?
[14:39] <brousch> ah, I get 2*<your dead stones>?
[14:39] <cmaloney> 16 + 4 (dead stones) + 10
[14:39] <cmaloney> yep
[14:40] <brousch> It's in the other column, so that's not obvious
[14:40] <cmaloney> Yeah, those are essentially prisoners
[14:42] <brousch> Here's the other game http://www.dragongoserver.net/game.php?gid=918382
[14:42] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/zWcd65 - DGS - Game #918382,59
[14:43] <brousch> He tells me all of the black groups are dead, but is playing through it with me and giving comments
[14:43] <cmaloney> The group on the left is dead
[14:43] <brousch> Ah, you can see the comments
[14:43] <cmaloney> You're depriving yourself of liberties with each move.
[14:44] <cmaloney> No, that's what I'm seeing. :)
[14:44] <cmaloney> All he needs to do is fill in F1, and you're fucked.
[14:44] <cmaloney> or g1 if you play at f1
[14:45] <cmaloney> It may take a little longer for the top group to get surrounded but there's little you can do to get out of that situation.
[14:45] <brousch> If I get a8 and f3 first, it will destroy the whole thing
[14:45] <cmaloney> Though I'm not sure the top ggroup is dead.
[14:45] <cmaloney> You can't.
[14:46] <brousch> I'm sure he will fill f3 when I get a8, but still possible
[14:46] <cmaloney> All he needs is to fill in f3 and you're fucked.
[14:46] <cmaloney> Yeah, and you can't play there otherwise.
[14:46] <cmaloney> so he's correct. You're fucked.
[14:52] <brousch> I need 0 handicap so when I win it will not feel weak
[14:53] <cmaloney> Sure. Feel free to ignore that invite
[14:53] <brousch> I disputed it
[14:53] <cmaloney> Though there's no shame in handicap. :)
[14:53] <brousch> It is not a true win with handicap
[14:55] <cmaloney> Suit yourself. :)
[14:56] <brousch> Have you begun reading the Go books yet?
[14:58] <cmaloney> Yeah, I've been leafing through them
[14:58] <cmaloney> Have also been schooled by GnuGo on occasion. :)
[15:00] <brousch> GnuGo whoops me
[15:01] <cmaloney> Yeah, you have to set the level pretty low
[15:02] <cmaloney> It's not a perfect player (skilled players can whoop it pretty easily) but it is brutal to beginners
[15:19] <cmaloney> brousch: http://shop.gogameguru.com/so-you-want-to-play-go-1/
[15:19] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/t700pJ - So You Want to Play Go?
[16:00] <brousch> I finally see how all of my stones are doomed in that other game.
[16:01] <cmaloney> Yeah, it takes a little bit of practice, but it'll become apparent.
[16:02] <cmaloney> This is why there are a lot of .sgf imports in programs; to play out "what-if" scenarios.
[16:02] <cmaloney> in chess it seemed a bit overkill, but in go it's crucial
[16:54] <brousch> I can go about 4 moves in my head
[17:13] <cmaloney> You're better than I. I look at the board anew each move.
[17:20] <brousch> I do that too, but try to look at possibilities a few moves ahead. I don't usually succeed though
[17:20] <brousch> And it's pretty useless early on
[17:22] <cmaloney> heh
[19:58] <rick_h__> howdy
[20:02] <widox> hey hey
[20:03] <cmaloney> Hey rick_h__
[20:03] <cmaloney> Or should we say "Guten Tag"?
[20:06] <rick_h__> guten aben
[20:28] <greg-g> hello from London
[20:38] <cmaloney> greg-g: You too?
[20:39]  * cmaloney is feeling the moss growing
[20:48] <cmaloney> Also: Probably not the best day to be a Justin.tv subscriber.
[20:48] <cmaloney> http://justin.tv/
[20:48] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/1ESDp - Goodbye from Justin.tv
[20:48] <cmaloney> "The Justin.tv website, mobile apps, and APIs are no longer in service. Thank you sincerely for seven years of live video memories."
[20:49] <cmaloney> AKA: Thanks for seven years of content that we could use to leverage our buyout
[20:53] <greg-g> cmaloney: here for Wikimania
[22:38] <jrwren> huh... sad that justin.tv shutdown.
[22:38] <jrwren> they own twitch.tv, which is THRIVING to say the least.
[22:38] <jrwren> seems like they could have spun justin.tv off


[07:38] <dholbach> good morning
[09:02] <MWelchUK_work> Does anyone know when the patch attached to this bug may be reviewed?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gzip/+bug/524366/
[09:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 524366 in gzip (Fedora) (and 1 other project) "Regression: CRC error an i386 (affects: 15) (dups: 1) (heat: 96)" [Unknown,Unknown]


[00:11] <asantos3> hi
[00:11] <asantos3> the links for ubuntu 14.04 aren't working http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[00:11] <asantos3> xubuntu*
[00:16] <Unit193> A couple are outdated, JP seems gone.
[00:17] <Unit193> knome: ↑
[00:17]  * Unit193 runs linkcheck.
[00:19] <knome> aha. even if we just added the jp links..
[00:19] <knome> is there any active one in the full list?
[00:20] <knome> i'm going to bed in the next 10, but can do small changes before that
[00:20] <knome> toothbrushing ->
[00:21] <Unit193> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent and i386 too, http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/*/release/
[00:27] <knome> so what to replace the japan mirror with?
[00:32] <knome> download pages updated with .3 and another .jp mirror
[00:32] <knome> good night!
[01:29] <Unit193> bluesabre: https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/xubuntu-default-settings/lightdm-config/+merge/267280
[01:29] <bluesabre> Unit193: yup, just got the email about it
[01:29] <bluesabre> since its coming from him, must be right
[01:30] <Unit193> Figured you'd have other places to fix it too.
[01:34] <bluesabre> probably
[02:07] <bluesabre> I think we might just have to add Provides: libreoffice-style to lo-style-elementary
[02:07] <bluesabre> suppose I should also add it to our seed :)
[11:35] <knome> flocculant, remind me to reply to that thread if i haven't done so in a few days
[11:41] <flocculant> ok
[11:51] <bluesabre> flocculant: I'll be releasing a new menulibre this weekend (2.0.7).  It'll likely land in wily early next week and trickle down to trusty eventually
[11:51] <bluesabre> if you want to take an early peek, https://launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/+archive/ubuntu/daily should have the final product (barring any unforeseen bugs)
[11:52] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - anything you want people to look at particularly?
[11:52] <bluesabre> if you want to check any of the bug fixes or the root lockout... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~menulibre-dev/menulibre/master/revision/290#NEWS
[12:15] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[16:34] <knome> pleia2, when you have time, i'll need php5-xmlrpc installed if we decide to pull data from the qa tracker
[20:55] <pleia2> knome: done
[20:57] <knome> pleia2, thanks again :)
[20:57] <knome> shall we poke IS soon?
[20:57] <knome> the tracker is ready to go on that server
[20:57] <pleia2> I'd say so :)
[20:57] <knome> just need the DNS set up
[20:57] <pleia2> tracker.x.o is ok name?
[20:58] <knome> i would call it "developers.xubuntu.org" because we might end up running a wiki there...
[20:58] <pleia2> if we go the wiki direction, we should probably find it a new home :)
[20:58] <knome> i guess whatever you fancy
[20:58] <pleia2> tracker is easy to run anywhere, might want to keep it mobile with its own name
[20:58] <knome> tracker.xubuntu.org is good for now too
[20:58] <knome> easy and easy ;)
[20:59] <pleia2> so yeah, send to dns gods
[20:59] <knome> are you on it or shall i?
[20:59] <pleia2> best you do
[20:59] <knome> ok, i will add you as a requestor as usually
[21:00] <pleia2> k
[21:02] <knome> sent RT ticket
[21:11] <knome> ochosi, ping too, we soon have the tracker set up at tracker.xubuntu.org
[21:19] <pleia2> knome: wow, you were right about the quick replies for these
[21:19] <knome> :)
[21:19] <pleia2> shiny :)
[21:20] <knome> i believe something like "ok, we can trust knome now" has happened
[21:20] <knome> because really, it doesn't seem like the other items are that quickly resolved
[21:20] <knome> and yep, it even works!
[21:20] <pleia2> yep!
[21:23] <knome> ochosi, now we can let dpm blog about it.
[21:34] <bluesabre> knome, pleia2 awesome!
[21:50] <knome> ochosi, you should be getting the reminder mail in a new format tonight
[21:50] <knome> bluesabre, fancy testing reminder mails about your open work items from the traker?
[21:50] <knome> +c
[21:51] <knome> pleia2, ^ ?
[22:02] <pleia2> nah
[22:02] <knome> oki ;)