[08:41] <hunahpu> theadmin: I haven't tried but I guess it should work; just add :<port> to your IP, you lose nothing by trying :p
[08:41] <Ven]n> theadmin, yeah, that would be another option
[08:41] <hunahpu> Ven]n: use yopmail.com and move on... is not that big of a deal
[08:42] <Ven]n> but then having someone else post for me is better I think
[08:42] <geirha> igoryonya: just ''help'' by itself will show you a list of what you can get help with; more or less all builtins and keywords of the shell.
[08:42] <exalt> hello can i convert .pages 2 .doc inubuntu?
[08:42] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: Depending on how you look at it, it's either poor design or the inevitable result of using them in a manner they were never designed/intended for. I must admit I fall into the latter category, Apple don't design them around running anything more than  OS X, which they're perfectly free to do. If you buy a Mac with the idea of running something other than OS X then the consequences of that are entirely you're own problem. That sa
[08:43] <igoryonya> theadmin, what do you mean?
[08:43] <hunahpu> exalt: check openoffice.org and see if .pages can be read by it; is what ubuntu uses by default
[08:43] <dariusvw> Greetigns, could anyone point me @ a "HOW TO" to connect my ubuntu pc to the internet through a router, no proxy involved
[08:43] <theadmin> igoryonya: Sorry to noisy here, what do you reffer to?
[08:44] <hunahpu> dariusvw: search for "tunneling" and "vpn" in google, like: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-configure-ubuntu-fedora-linux-pptp-client.html
[08:44] <igoryonya> geirha: does built-in, mean that it's not some kind of a file, but built-in into a kernel?
[08:44] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: " It wasn't a big problem with the earlier Intel MacBooks, the CPUs in those were a bit tougher because the fgabbing tech was coarser. " Propably why it hasn't affected my old macbook pro. I used that thing as an always on server for over a year so it would probably be dead by now were it a newer model.
[08:44] <theadmin> I tried "<IP_ADDRESS>:2082 cpane.l" but it ain't workin'
[08:44] <geirha> igoryonya: Yes, though not built-in to the kernel, but the shell
[08:44] <dariusvw> Hunahpu - Thanks
[08:44] <igoryonya> theadmin>	{#ubuntu} igoryonya: What's the point in aliasing something to itself?
[08:45] <rocket16> May I know who is the operator of this channel?
[08:45] <igoryonya> geirha: ok, got it.
[08:45] <theadmin> igoryonya: You gave the following command: alias -p etc=etc
[08:45] <theadmin> ubottu: ops > rocket16
[08:45] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: Yeah, I think it's the unibodies getting hit hardest by this, but they all share the same SMC power management so it's not the best idea on any of them
[08:45] <igoryonya> theadmin: that was just an abstract example so I don't have to type out the whole command.
[08:45] <kraut> moin
[08:45] <igoryonya> theadmin: as I'
[08:46] <rocket16> !ops > rocket16
[08:46] <igoryonya> theadmin: as I've given an example earlier in chat
[08:46] <jpds> rocket16: hi.
[08:46] <igoryonya> theadmin: I mean the real example
[08:46] <geirha> igoryonya: I strongly recommend reading the guide and faq at http://mywiki.wooledge.org/
[08:46] <rocket16> jpds: Hello, :) Are you an Operator here?
[08:46] <theadmin> igoryonya: Allrigth i see
[08:46] <Gorlist> morning, bit of a odd question. installed 10.04 a few weeks ago and set my desktop backdrop to lovely close up of a big green leaf (which came with ubuntu) - since then its disappeared and disappeared from the list!
[08:46] <Gorlist> does anyone have a copy of it
[08:46] <jpds> rocket16: Yes.
[08:47] <theadmin> ubottu: 10.04 | Gorlist
[08:47] <bluebird> sorry for repeating -  does any body know this bug - When i use PolicyDialog and enter CORRECT su password, window shaking and authorization failed, in log.auth - pam_unix(polkit:auth): conversation failed  authpam_unix(polkit:auth): auth could not identify password for [user]???
[08:47] <Gorlist> ta
[08:48] <dariusvw> hunahpu - sorry, i'm not after a vpn. i have a ubuntu pc i just built up, if i set the ip info so that it sits behind my proxy i canget internet. but my proxy has many ports blocked. I am trying to set the PC up so it connects direct to the router for internet
[08:49] <exalt> biw
[08:50] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: Do you know if there is a launchpad bug report about this?
[08:50] <LSD|Ninja> Jordan_U: No idea, but even if there is, there's not much Ubuntu, or the Linux community as a whole, can really do about it as it's the result of the SMC being closed.
[08:51] <Flannel> rocket16: Please don't evade bans, thanks.
[08:51] <theadmin> Flannel: Huh?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> LSD|Ninja: A good deal of hardware that's supported by linux is only so through reverse engineering, and launchpad bug reports are also an easy way to follow issues like this.
[08:52] <Flannel> theadmin: If you're banned, getting around (evading) your ban is bad, and will get you into more trouble
[08:53] <theadmin> Flannel: I don't recall him being banned o_O
[08:53] <Andreony> sallll
[08:53] <Andreony> cineva roman
[08:53] <Andreony> ?
[08:53] <Andreony> ?
[08:53] <FloodBot4> Andreony: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:53] <Andreony> cineva roman ?
[08:54] <tdn> When will 10.04 be released? Is any date planned yet?
[08:54] <iceroot> tdn: #ubuntu+1
[08:54] <Andreony> the server run ???
[08:54] <rocket16> Flannel: Sorry, but my Pidgin just entered #ubuntu automatically, should I leave immidietely?
[08:54] <LSD|Ninja> tdn: 29th April, but consider waiting until October for 10.10
[08:55] <Andreony> cineva roman ?
[08:55] <hunahpu> Andreony: Nu putem vorbi româneşte aici. Du-te la #ubuntu-ro
[08:56] <Flannel> rocket16: That would make you stop ban evading, yes.
[08:57] <rocket16> Flannel: Ok, sighs, I did nothing wrong, but bazhang used his status wrongly to ban me. I just wanted to learn and contribute in the channel. I respect your direction, Flannel. But please, at least consider the fact that I was banned wrongly by that ill Operator bazhang (Who started Offtopic, and when warned, banned me).
[08:57] <Flannel> rocket16: That's for #ubuntu-ops, not here.
[08:58] <hunahpu> Flannel: well it's already in the forums......
[08:58] <rocket16> Flannel: Yes, I am there, and doing whatever I can. I just made a reply, to clear the misunderstanding. Thanks.
[08:59] <geekphreak> hi all
[09:00] <nsp> hello
[09:01] <riverside> Hi!
[09:01] <Gryllida> nsp, hi
[09:02] <exalt> how can i convert pdf2doc?
[09:02] <riverside> I have a shell problem,could anyone can help me?
[09:02] <XaS> riverside don't ask to ask, just ask.
[09:03] <riverside> suppose I have a file named filea
[09:03] <marcin_> lal
[09:03] <riverside> and I want to replace a word in line 3 column 3,
[09:03] <riverside> how?
[09:03] <riverside> can sed do this?
[09:04] <riverside> replace word in the explicit place?
[09:05] <ouyes> is there someone running 10.04 ?
[09:06] <Ven]n> ouyes, #ubuntu+1
[09:06] <ouyes> Ven]n, oo
[09:09] <dariusvw> with ubuntu why do i have to restart the PC to have network changes take effect?
[09:09] <iceroot> dariusvw: you dont need to restart
[09:10] <iceroot> dariusvw: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:10] <sasayins> how can i see other computer in my network(LAN)?
[09:10] <tasslehoff> When I call "start-stop-daemon --start" twice, it tries to start my stuff both times. I thought it should detect that it's already runninge from the pidfile created the first time. Any thoughts?
[09:10] <iceroot> dariusvw: there are only 2 reasons to restart a ubuntu-pc. kernel or glibc update
[09:10] <dariusvw> Iceroot - i did that, internet still would not work, i restared and it worked
[09:10] <theadmin> iceroot: glibc? why?
[09:10] <composter> guten morgen zusammen
[09:10] <sambuntu> Morning, I wanted to get some insight on the 32bit vs 64bit thing.  I've been using ubuntu32bit since Feisty, but never once have I ever tried the 64bit I do have a core2duo processor, for someone like me as a regular user, would it be better to go 64bit and I suppose applications in ubuntu-tweak etc for example all can compile and run in 64bit?
[09:11] <composter> kennt sich hier einer mit squid proxy aus??
[09:11] <theadmin> composter: Deutschen Support ist in #ubuntu-de
[09:11] <dariusvw> iceroot - no the networking restart
[09:11] <iceroot> theadmin: because other programs only use the new glibc after a restart, elsewhere they have the old in memory
[09:11] <theadmin> iceroot: I see
[09:11] <theadmin> sambuntu: Not all of them
[09:11] <iceroot> theadmin: the rest you can restart with /etc/init.d/ and so on but not the effects a glibc-update is bringing
[09:12] <theadmin> sambuntu: But many. Well, if you have <4GB RAM then it's quite pointless
[09:12] <iceroot> dariusvw: what have you changed? and where to edit the network?
[09:12] <sambuntu> theadmin, so you still recomend 32bit I take it.
[09:12] <theadmin> sambuntu: I don't recommend, that really depends on your hardware
[09:12] <sambuntu> lets assume my hardware is fine for 64bit...
[09:13] <theadmin> sambuntu: I mean, say, how much RAM you have? If you have less then 4 gigs it's pointless to run 64-bit
[09:13] <dariusvw> iceroot - changing ip settings so the pc will work through my proxy, with the GUI interface as i cannot get it to work direct to the router
[09:13] <iceroot> dariusvw: and where? /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:13] <sambuntu> theadmin, ok I see that point.
[09:14] <iceroot> dariusvw: ah sorry didnt read the gui-part
[09:14] <hunahpu> sambuntu: using 32-bit OS and apps in 64-bit machines is a waste of hardware, but many things that are available for 32-bits are not yet available in 64-bit, so be careful on what you use right now, make sure there are 64-bit versions
[09:15] <dariusvw> iceroot - i tried that route to get the router connected, but it would not work. if i use the GUI route i can get it to work through a proxy
[09:15] <sambuntu> hunahpu, so I suppose the best bet, is to install 64bit, install or try to install all the apps I need, if they install and work, then voila solved.
[09:15] <hunahpu> theadmin: I may be wrong but I think there are more advantages in running 64-bit apps than just recognizing more than 3,5GB of RAM :p
[09:15] <elric> Linux is capable of running most 32 bit applications with linux32 however...
[09:15] <sambuntu> and then i can benefit with some slight speed increases.
[09:16] <iceroot> dariusvw: maybe you can give a detailed description on the network and what you want to do in one line
[09:16] <iceroot> dariusvw: its hard to understand
[09:16] <hunahpu> sambuntu: yes, if you use "standard" "regular" stuff, you'll be fine; there are some 32-bits that can run in 64-bits OS's always double check
[09:16] <sambuntu> I appreciate some of the insight guys.  Seeing that most forum chats are for older versions of ubuntu hence some older hardware, I was just interested to maybe go LTS with the new version and just stick to 64bit, but at the end of the day I guess I have to try it first
[09:17] <dariusvw> iceroot - if i use the GUI it will not accep a gateway address, thats why i can only get it to work through the proxy. but my proxy has verry few open ports, which causes other problems. Which is why i tried to get it to work direct to the router.
[09:17] <iceroot> dariusvw: not accept mean you cant enter or it is not working?
[09:18] <hunahpu> sambuntu: my personal experience was really good when I switched to 64-bits, most apps run insanely fast, like sound conversion software, dvd creation, compiling, etc.
[09:19] <jiero> hi, all, i have a question about the pure text preview settings: I found as DPI increasing large portion of visible text in the thumbnails deducted, any body have suggestion to make the thumbnailer work better with high DPI?
[09:20] <sambuntu> hunahpu, I do some sound conversions and dvd creations at times, so at least I know when it comes to number crunching ill benefit from that
[09:20] <sambuntu> i guess the old flash issue has been mostly resolved
[09:20] <dariusvw> iceroot - in the GUI interface, for the network properties, under gateway - everytime i enter the gateway ip 196.*.*.* it returns to <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:20] <sambuntu> and I just mainly use skype/pidgin and watch movies
[09:20] <hunahpu> sambuntu: not quite, you still have to manually install flash 64-bits
[09:20] <bp0> is there a panel applet or something that will allow disabling the screensave temporarily?
[09:20] <iceroot> dariusvw: and the gateway is in the same network as the ip?
[09:20] <iceroot> dariusvw: ip of the client
[09:20] <sambuntu> well I understand i have to do it manually, but I mean in general its all generally ok
[09:20] <hunahpu> bp0: I have a shell script to do that
[09:21] <jiero> hi, all, i have a question about the pure text preview settings: I found as DPI increasing, a large part of visible text in the thumbnails deducted, anybody have suggestions to make the thumbnailer work better with high DPI?
[09:21] <dariusvw> iceroot - yes
[09:21] <bp0> well that is something
[09:21] <bp0> where?
[09:21] <iceroot> dariusvw: with the same subnet
[09:21] <hunahpu> bp0: gimme a second I'll pastebin it for you
[09:22] <dariusvw> iceroot - IP <IP_ADDRESS> Gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:22] <hunahpu> bp0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/419713/
[09:23] <dariusvw> iceroot - i am using .244 on this PC Win XP
[09:24] <dariusvw> hello
[09:24] <bp0> hunahpu, so .. what does this do
[09:24] <brianherman> hello darius
[09:24] <bp0> how do i turn it on again
[09:24] <dariusvw> :) sorry i thought my internet had died there
[09:25] <hunahpu> bp0: it kills the screensaver as long as the terminal where you invoke it is active
[09:25] <bp0> hmm
[09:25] <bp0> alright
[09:25] <bp0> thanks, better to have some toggle in the panel or something, i think
[09:25] <hunahpu> bp0: by closing the terminal or pressing "Ctrl+C", you can add cron, to kill it
[09:25] <sambuntu> well thanks, i think I will go ahead and reformat my desktop and install lucid 64bit on this and just see what happens :)
[09:26] <theadmin> sambuntu: Wait until it's released at least :/
[09:26] <theadmin> 8 days...
[09:26] <sambuntu> hehe
[09:26] <sambuntu> ok fine :)
[09:26] <sambuntu> I have been using lucid on my netbook
[09:26] <sambuntu> but 32bit
[09:26] <sambuntu> but i guess i should wait for my desktop at least
[09:26] <sambuntu> and do it right the first time.
[09:26] <Gryllida> sambuntu, lucid is #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <sambuntu> yea I know I was just adding that at the end...
[09:27] <iceroot> dariusvw: and you can ping that gateway from the client? also you can try this "sudo route add default <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:27] <iceroot> dariusvw: then the whole traffic is going to the gateway
[09:27] <sambuntu> and thanks again for everything, ill be sure to update you on any good news
[09:28] <theadmin> "update you"... we're not computers :/
[09:29] <dariusvw> iceroot: thanks i'll try that. No i did not try Pinging.  any recomendations on Vim vs Nano Vs Vi Vs another?
[09:29] <Gryllida> !vim
[09:31] <geekphreak> dariusvw: matter of choice i guess right?
[09:31] <theadmin> heh, funny that ubottu shows nano as the first CLI editor in the list
[09:32] <dariusvw> Geekphreak: problem is i am so new to linux/ubuntu i dont know what my choices are :)
[09:32] <geekphreak> theadmin: alpha sorted :p
[09:32] <theadmin> geekphreak: Oh... :D
[09:32] <iceroot> dariusvw: of course vim, the one and only editor (dont use vi, use vim)
[09:32] <theadmin> iceroot: uh, afaik "vi" is same as "vim" these days
[09:33] <iceroot> dariusvw: but maybe if you are new, use nano or if you want a gui use gedit (when needing root use gksudo gedit)
[09:33] <iceroot> theadmin: no
[09:33] <BigRedS_> It's normally a symlink to it, but vi does exist in distinction AFAIK
[09:33] <theadmin> iceroot: Yep... typing vi in the terminal launched vim
[09:33] <dariusvw> Iceroot: thanks i'll try them all out
[09:33] <iceroot> theadmin: vim.tiny
[09:33] <iceroot> theadmin: which vi  and then ls -l to that path will show vi -> vim.tiny
[09:34] <geekphreak> dariusvw: read about vi, powerfull but has learning curve to it
[09:34] <iceroot> theadmin: sudo apt-get install vim  will give you the real vim
[09:34] <theadmin> iceroot: ...sorry, i did not understand a single word of what you just said
[09:34] <LuckySMack> i installed ssmtp, but from what i have seen it only accepts one email to send from. is there a way i can configure two different emails to send from?
[09:34] <iceroot> theadmin: vi is a symlink to vim.tiny
[09:34] <theadmin> iceroot: oh
[09:34] <iceroot> theadmin: vim.tiny != the real vim
[09:35] <iceroot> theadmin: so vi != vim
[09:35] <theadmin> iceroot: I see. Well, I don't really use it, because never had enough... non-laziness to learn it
[09:35] <iceroot> theadmin: i dont know why ubuntu is not using the real vim but vim.tiny which is vi
[09:36] <iceroot> theadmin: imo vi cant use the arrow-keys
[09:36] <perhamlinux> hi everyone
[09:37] <geekphreak> perhamlinux: hello
[09:38] <ouyes> i am wondering how many personal users are running ubuntu right now in the world ?
[09:38] <Lazesharp> hi guys
[09:39] <Lazesharp> anyone know what the difference in the MP3 decoder provided by the ffmpeg and fluendo plugins are and which are preferable?
[09:39] <perhamlinux> ouyes: less than a million, but that's already very high imo
[09:39] <Lazesharp> I'm guessing the fluendo plugin is licensed more favourably
[09:40] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: ffmpeg uses lame
[09:40] <ouyes> perhamlinux, somebody in the #ubuntu+1 tell me it is 12 million,
[09:40] <FireCrotch> ouyes: it's impossible to know how many people are using Ubuntu
[09:41] <perhamlinux> ouyes: I'm searching for a reliable source right now
[09:41] <FireCrotch> ouyes: There are some ways to estimate, but it's nowhere near the actual numbers
[09:41] <Lazesharp> perhamlinux: so what's the practical differences, from a user perspective?
[09:43] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: hardly any difference. they both open the same kind of file with quite the same algorithm
[09:43] <Lazesharp> fair enough
[09:43] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: haven't  ran a benchmark to see which one is faster, but I guess the difference would be minimal
[09:43] <Lazesharp> odd that 10.04 prompts to install both when you try to play an MP3 file, it should really ask you to choose
[09:45] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: haven't tried 10.04 myself yet. I only use stable releases ;)
[09:45] <Lazesharp> fair enough, I figured 9 days away from release 10.04 must be fairly stable
[09:46] <perhamlinux> ouyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Reception
[09:46]  * geekphreak on it, loving it (Lucid)
[09:46] <perhamlinux> Lazesharp: yes it should be. but then again, karmic works absolutely great for me!
[09:48] <jurcek> hellow! i have a problem. i can only execute firefox wuth sudo command, bacause the owner of /usr/bin/firefox is root root. how do i chane permission to username jurcek?
[09:48] <theadmin> jurcek: I think you... sudo chmod 777 /usr/bin/firefox
[09:49] <archbuclaw> theadmin, O:
[09:49] <theadmin> archbuclaw: ?
[09:49] <theadmin> or maybe 555. Yeah, that'd be better
[09:50] <archbuclaw> no need for w permissions on group / other
[09:50] <archbuclaw> 755 would be default.
[09:50] <archbuclaw> jurcek, also I would check the ownership of ~/.mozilla
[09:50] <jurcek> theadmin, doesn't help the user who can execute the firefox is still root
[09:51] <archbuclaw> jurcek, that is what it is supposed to be.
[09:51] <theadmin> jurcek: Uh, not only owner can execute the program
[09:51] <archbuclaw> you are looking at it at the wrong angle.
[09:52] <geekphreak> jurcek: do you actually get error message when you try to run firefox as normal user?
[09:52] <DryGrain> sudo chown -v jurcek /usr/bin/firefox
[09:52] <DryGrain> ?
[09:52] <archbuclaw> IMO - smells like not having ownership of ~/.mozilla, or another part of his home directyory
[09:53] <jurcek> geekphreak, i get this error. /home/jurcek/bin/firefox: line 3: /home/jurcek/firefox/firefox: No such file or directory
[09:53] <theadmin> DryGrain: You don't chown files in /usr/bin to someone except root :/
[09:53] <jurcek> /home/jurcek/bin/firefox: line 3: exec: /home/jurcek/firefox/firefox: cannot execute: No such file or directory
[09:53] <archbuclaw> this is why you never run GUI applications using sudo...
[09:53] <geekphreak> what is firefox doing in $OME?
[09:53] <DryGrain> :x
[09:53] <archbuclaw> jurcek, what happens when you run: cd /home/jurcek/firefox
[09:55] <iceroot> archbuclaw: jurcek you can use cd ~ to go to the home-directory, so it will be cd ~/firefox
[09:55] <jurcek> archbuclaw, i don't have this folder jurcek/firefox
[09:56] <geekphreak> jurcek: something aint right :p
[09:57]  * perhamlinux learned this just right now
[09:57] <jurcek> the permissin to .mozilla are drwx------ 3 jurcek jurcek 4096 2010-03-16 13:01 extensions
[09:57] <jurcek> drwx------ 3 jurcek jurcek 4096 2010-03-16 13:01 firefox
[09:58] <archbuclaw> jurcek, if you don't have the directory, then you've messed up the installation of whatever you did.
[09:58] <archbuclaw> jurcek, I take it you installed your own version?
[09:59] <jurcek> archbuclaw, i have firefox in this directories  /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /usr/share/firefox
[09:59] <jurcek> archbuclaw, i did sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:59] <Ken8521> jurcek, do you have hidden files available? (view menu) its /juricek/.firefox   not the . that makes it hidden
[09:59] <Ken8521> assuming youw ere looking in home
[09:59] <perhamlinux> jurcek: do a sudo apt-get remove firefox and then install it again with sudo aptitude install firefox
[10:00] <jurcek> Ken8521, i have .mozilla and i don't have .firefox
[10:00] <geekphreak> jurcek: did you also download firefox package to check for new version by any chance mate  from there site??
[10:00] <jurcek> geekphreak, you mean .deb packages ?
[10:00] <geekphreak> jurcek: .gz i mean
[10:00] <jdmulti> when I use Ubuntu Live CD, can I acces my Hard disks to copy paste data to usb?
[10:00] <jurcek> geekphreak, i don't like .gz files, i prefer .deb packages :D
[10:01] <perhamlinux> jdmulti:  yes, you need to mount them
[10:01] <geekphreak> jurcek:  ok good checking :)
[10:01] <jdmulti> how can I do that?
[10:01] <jdmulti> it won't auto mount them?
[10:01] <perhamlinux> jdmulti: in the places menu, you will see your hard disk partitions and your usb disk upon insertion
[10:02] <jurcek> perhamlinux, apt-get remove firefox and aptitude install firefox doesn't work
[10:02] <perhamlinux> jdmulti: click on each one, and copy your files just like in windows
[10:02] <jdmulti> aah ok, thanks, :D
[10:02] <perhamlinux> jdmulti: yw ;)
[10:03] <jdmulti> recovering some data from a laptop, original OS didn't start anymore and else my gf loses all data :/
[10:03] <jurcek> geekphreak, this is what i get if i ran firefox without sudo command http://paste.ubuntu.com/419727/
[10:03] <perhamlinux> jurcek: how about apt-get purge firefox? and what is the outputs?
[10:03] <jurcek> i also get this
[10:04] <geekphreak> jurcek:  can you open terminal for me?
[10:04] <perhamlinux> jdmulti: we'll be here if you wanted any further help
[10:04] <jdmulti> kk, probebly later today, at work now and afther gonna fix it, just wanted to knew a few things beforehand ;)
[10:04] <jurcek> geekphreak, i did sudo apt-get remove firefox and if i run command firefox i get the same error as http://paste.ubuntu.com/419727/
[10:04] <jdmulti> but thanks a lot :D
[10:04] <perhamlinux> !who | jdmulti
[10:05] <jdmulti> aah kk :P
[10:05] <perhamlinux> jdmulti:  ;)
[10:05] <jdmulti> perhamlinux: :D
[10:05] <geekphreak> jurcek: can you open terminal for me please?
[10:05] <jurcek> geekphreak, i am doing all the command from terminal
[10:06] <geekphreak> ok type this there >> /usr/bin/firefox
[10:06] <geekphreak> get same message?
[10:06] <jurcek> permission denied
[10:07] <archbuclaw> jurcek, the full message?
[10:07] <jurcek> archbuclaw, bash: /usr/bin/firefox: Permission denied
[10:09] <archbuclaw> jurcek, ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
[10:09] <archbuclaw> and possibly:  ls -l /usr/bin/firefox-3.5
[10:09] <LuckySMack> anyone familiar with setting up smtp to send mail from a google apps email? when trying to send i get the error: ssmtp: Authorization failed 454 4.7.0 Cannot authenticate due to temporary system problem. Try again later.  This is what i have in my config: http://pastebin.com/PjDXQuyN
[10:09] <jurcek> archbuclaw, nom such file or directory
[10:09] <LuckySMack> i mean setting up ssmtp, not smtp
[10:10] <jurcek> archbuclaw, for both firefox and firefox-3.5 no such file or directory
[10:10] <geekphreak> jurcek: you just got perm. denied man on firefox
[10:10] <jurcek> geekphreak, yes i know that, what now ?
[10:11] <archbuclaw> jurcek, file is probably missing then.
[10:11] <archbuclaw> dpkg -S /usr/bin/firefox
[10:11] <jurcek> archbuclaw, shoud i create this folder or what?
[10:12] <jurcek> archbuclaw, dpkg: /usr/bin/firefox not found.
[10:12] <archbuclaw> and there you go
[10:12] <jurcek> yes, i deleted firefox
[10:12] <archbuclaw> and replaced it?
[10:12] <jurcek> i will install it first
[10:12] <geekphreak> oh gawd lol
[10:13] <maX0> hey guys, anyone that could help me out with nonworking avidemux?
[10:13] <geekphreak> jurcek: this is ubuntu 9.10 right?
[10:13] <jurcek> geekphreak, ok, with dpkg -s command i get firefox: /usr/bin/firefox
[10:13] <jurcek> geekphreak, yes, it's 9.10
[10:14] <archbuclaw> jurcek, and running firefox gets you what ...
[10:14] <snitko> how can I find what's working on my 80 port? I'd like to kill the sucker to run my server, but I don't what process is it
[10:14] <jurcek> archbuclaw, if i run it with sudo firefox it runs firefox normaly, but if i run it only with firefox command i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/419727/
[10:15] <geekphreak> jurcek:  ls -l /usr/bin/fir*
[10:15] <perhamlinux> !ask | maX0
[10:15] <archbuclaw> jurcek, then remove the local installation ?
[10:15] <jurcek> archbuclaw, how do i do that?
[10:15] <archbuclaw> rm ~/bin/firefox
[10:15] <abou_7anash_009> hi all where can I put the password for my account in evolution, I did try the wizard and account settings
[10:16] <archbuclaw> jurcek, infact, if the "bin" directory in your home directory is empty, remove that altogether
[10:16] <SwedeMike> snitko: netstat -anp | grep :80 as root
[10:16] <geekphreak> abou_7anash_009: email account password?
[10:16] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: it asks first time you connect
[10:16] <jurcek> archbuclaw, it's not empty
[10:17] <snitko> SwedeMike: makes no sense, only shows processes that connect somewhere outside to the external port 80
[10:18] <androooie>  /quit
[10:19] <geekphreak> erUSUL: howdy :)
[10:19] <erUSUL> geekphreak: good morning :)
[10:20] <perhamlinux> jurcek: ls -l ~/bin
[10:20] <geekphreak> jurcek: can you paste output of this command >> ls -l /usr/bin/fir*
[10:20] <archbuclaw> jurcek, well, I'll leave you to decide whether or not it is needed then. (chances am - probably not, unless you installed other applications there). - I take it firefox probably works now.
[10:20] <archbuclaw> although, you might want to clean up any mess you made via:
[10:21] <archbuclaw> sudo chown jurcek:jurcek ~/.mozilla -R
[10:21] <abou_7anash_009> Trying to setup imaps usign port 993 and tls , I did set all settings as they should be, the work fine on thunderbird, however all that evolution does is keep scanning for folders and then nohting it does not even prompt for a passwrod
[10:21] <maX0> I've installed avidemux, but wasn't able to start it, when I start it from the start menu, nothing happens, when I start it from terminal, I get this error output http://paste.ubuntu.com/419738/ and application stops again, any suggestions?
[10:21] <abou_7anash_009> I did launch evolution from a shell and the message there is Making Error
[10:21] <archbuclaw> jurcek, and in future, don't use sudo to run GUI apps. =)
[10:22] <geekphreak> abou_7anash_009: did you click on send/recieve
[10:22] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: what email service are you using? gmail?
[10:23] <geekphreak> wow he left
[10:23] <perhamlinux> geekphreak: who?
[10:23] <BusMaster> I need a simple program to draw red circles around parts of a jpg image that I want to highlight. What should I use? Gimp doesn't have that feature
[10:24] <geekphreak> jurcek whom we were working with, prob got d/c
[10:24] <geekphreak> BusMaster: try xpaint
[10:24] <BusMaster> geekphreak, ok, I'll apt-get it now
[10:25] <perhamlinux> BusMaster: also gpaint and kolourpaint are good programs. I have all installed
[10:25] <sasayins> why I can't see the other computer in my network folder?
[10:25] <sasayins> im using ubuntu 9.10
[10:25] <BusMaster> perhamlinux, heh ok..then I'll install the one which has the smallest size :)
[10:27] <BusMaster> perhamlinux, yikes! gpaint doesn't have Undo
[10:28] <perhamlinux> pidgin is much better than empathy
[10:28] <perhamlinux> BusMaster: lol
[10:28] <bullgard4> How to insert a bulleted list in OpenOffice.org Impress text?
[10:28] <BusMaster> perhamlinux, what kind of a program doesn' have undo ;)
[10:28] <perhamlinux> BusMaster: a geeky one!
[10:28] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: no I am using my company's IMAP server
[10:29] <perhamlinux> maX0: try reporting it to avidemux group. it's a bug there
[10:29] <bullgard4> perhamlinux: Empathy is much better than Pidgin.
[10:29] <geekphreak> bullgard hello
[10:30] <geekphreak> bullgard4:  select text , that you wana number >> bull >> bullet and numbering
[10:30] <perhamlinux> bullgard4: then we can agree to disagree
[10:31] <maX0> perhamlinux: thanks
[10:31] <iceroot> BusMaster: rm
[10:32] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: in preferences, account editor, did you set the authentication type to password?
[10:32] <geekphreak> iceroot:  that was funny hehe
[10:32] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: yaeh
[10:32] <BusMaster> iceroot, ergo, newbies like me prefer "Move to Trash" :)
[10:33] <iceroot> BusMaster: there is no trash on the cli
[10:33] <perhamlinux> and it's not asking for password? abou_7anash_009
[10:33] <BusMaster> iceroot, yeah..the cli is uber-manly
[10:33] <geekphreak> iceroot: $HOME/.local/share/Trash ;)
[10:34] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: no when doing send receive it appears to be working but it does nothing it does not even get the folder listing and no errors as well
[10:34] <BusMaster> geekphreak, and maybe alias rm='mv $1  $HOME/.local/share/Trash'; or something like that..
[10:34] <geekphreak> abou_7anash_009: is imap even enabled on your gmail?
[10:34] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: I have no idea . I'm using imap with gmx.com and it works great
[10:35] <Yoshario> Is Linux Mint better than Ubuntu?
[10:35] <perhamlinux> geekphreak: it's not gmail. it's his company's server
[10:35] <perhamlinux> Yoshario: define better
[10:35] <geekphreak> oh ok perhamlinux sorry
[10:35] <DarkHack> Yoshario it all really depends on what you actually plan to DO on said linux distro
[10:35] <geekphreak> Yoshario:  matter of personal choice
[10:35] <DarkHack> and what geekphreak said
[10:36] <DarkHack> like me
[10:36] <DarkHack> I just got done changing from ubuntu (nice distro, good features) back to PCLinuxOS GNOME
[10:36] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: have you tried setting it with thunderbird  and see if it works?
[10:36] <gjb> Hi all. Can anyone recommend a utility to "ping" a host by TCP port?
[10:36] <Zider> nmap
[10:37] <Zider> I think can do it
[10:37] <iceroot> geekphreak: and rm dont care about trash
[10:37] <perhamlinux> gjb: nmap, and for a gui try zenmap
[10:37] <geekphreak> iceroot: lol agreed but you can mv stuff there that ya wana rm :d
[10:38] <iceroot> geekphreak: the trash is working with something like a registry so mv will not modify the registry correctly
[10:38] <Yoshario> Are there any other ubuntu-related channels?
[10:38] <abou_7anash_009> perhamlinux: yaeh it works with TB but I dont like TB it is to slow in search and indexing no easy way to create filters and rules right away from message ..amongst half a dozen other things
[10:39] <geekphreak> Yoshario:  #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[10:39] <geekphreak> iceroot:  agreed sir
[10:39] <perhamlinux> abou_7anash_009: fine. then I guess the problem is in evolution itself. contact their support team
[10:39] <gjb> Zider, perhamlinux: Thanks. I'll have a look at the docs to see whether it can probe every second.
[10:39] <rww> Yoshario: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[10:39] <Yoshario> Thanks rww
[10:40] <perhamlinux> any chess players here?
[10:40] <Zider> yeah
[10:40] <bullgard4> geekphreak: I found it.  I'm using Evolution mail and changed the passwords for my email-account. when i want to receive my emails it fails, prompting that there is an authentication-issui. it does not say which account is affected. neither way i don't know how to change the password for this account. do you know ?
[10:51] <iceroot> le_: internet relay chat, the one you are using here
[10:51] <uwjweq> le_: No idea, maybe you could ask the guys on IRC if they know.
[10:51] <uwjweq> le_: There you have it. They could.
[10:51] <BigRedS_> johnlvpl, the firewall's built in and called  iptables
[10:52] <digifor> I am getting the following: sudo: ping: command not found
[10:52] <le_> hehe.....im a chinese
[10:52] <iceroot> digifor: dont use sudo for ping
[10:52] <BigRedS_> it's a text-based interface, but there are GUI frontends for it.
[10:52] <johnlvpl> thanks guys, sorry very new to this, only installed last night
[10:52] <Zider> I wouldn't really call iptables a firewall, but.. *shrugs*
[10:52] <BigRedS_> JohnnyAmerica, Firestarter's a common reccomendation
[10:53] <digifor> iceroot, ping https://unakrt-wm.unlb.org/bash: /bin/ping: Permission denied
[10:53] <BigRedS_> er, not JohnnyAmerica
[10:53] <digifor> I usually have to sudo
[10:53] <johnlvpl> hehe me you mean
[10:53] <BigRedS_> johnlvpl, Firestarter's a common reccomendation
[10:53] <azlon> how can i limit lsof down to a specific path (/media/archivestorage/)?
[10:53] <iceroot> digifor: ls -l /bin/ping
[10:54] <digifor> ---------- 1 root root 34756 2010-03-12 00:12 /bin/ping
[10:54] <maulana> test
[10:55] <iceroot> digifor: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 33528  9. Sep 2009  /bin/ping*
[10:56] <le_> I have a problem...i install windows on vmware, i want to have my windows guest connected to internet, then my host ubuntu share this connection~
[10:56] <llutz> digifor: sudo chmod 755 /bin/ping
[10:56] <llutz> digifor: sudo chmod u+s /bin/ping
[10:57] <song> what??
[10:57] <le_> who can tell me？
[10:57] <le_> 有中国的吗～
[10:57] <iceroot> le_: #vmware
[10:58] <sweb> geekphreak, no zoom in / out ... hold super key and scroll your mouse
[10:58] <assassingj> 有
[10:58] <dariusvw> anyone willing to recomend a Terminal program to use from windows --> ubuntu and for ubuntu --> windows. Both pc's will be on the 10.0.0.x IP range although the Xp PC is on a domain.  Thanks
[10:59] <llutz> dariusvw: terminal-prog for what?
[11:00] <song> ping
[11:00] <dariusvw> llutz; sorry, so that i can see what on the other pc and work on it remotely
[11:00] <llutz> dariusvw: ssh/putty(win)
[11:02] <testuser> hi
[11:02] <iceroot> dariusvw: cygwin/sshd on the windows-machine as ssh-server to that you can use ssh into it
[11:03] <llutz> dariusvw: cygwin sucks, use freesshd
[11:03] <hmw> DBAN crashes on the computer, I want to delete all data from. Is there a tool, that works with the Ubuntu USB-boot-thumb-drive, which lets me irrecoverably delete hard drives?
[11:04] <geekphreak> llutz: that works on windows too?
[11:04] <llutz> geekphreak: ssh? sure, if you know win commandline
[11:04] <geekphreak> hmw wipe
[11:04] <BigRedS_> hmw, repeated dd ?
[11:04] <hmw> thx
[11:04] <geekphreak> llutz: i know my command line :)
[11:07] <G_A_C> hmw: shred from the Ubuntu LiveCD
[11:07] <goez> !html
[11:08] <G_A_C> something like "shred -n 3 -z -v /dev/sd?" will replicate standard DBAN behaviour (3 random passes, 1 zero pass)
[11:09] <hmw> LOL - from the man page of wipe (the author doesnt trust hard drives too much): "The best way to sanitize a storage medium is to subject it to temperatures exceeding 1500K"
[11:09] <Zider> I'd agree with that, it's the only way to be really safe :P
[11:10] <BigRedS_> hmw, no-one trusts hdds that much
[11:10] <geekphreak> hmw: well its true, hdd cannot be trusted , thats why people recomend backups, right?
[11:10] <BigRedS_> All any software tool can do is make it more effort than it's worth to get the data off.
[11:11] <geekphreak> hmw:  you can also get something like ubcd, which has kildisk, similar to dban
[11:12] <llutz> geekphreak: most datas were lost due to layer-8 problems
[11:13] <geekphreak> llutz:  oh ok
[11:13] <hmw> note taken. in this case an "unsafe" 4-passes-only wipe will suffice. Can someone tell me, why the man page is warning me about wiping a whole drive (not only a partition), since the MBR would be deleted? I mean, so what?? Can't Linux create a new MBR after I wiped it with  wipe -kD /dev/sda  ??
[11:14] <llutz> "rm important.data" ups ,where is the trash? :(
[11:15] <BigRedS_> hmw, because your intention might be to just delete a partition. If you hose an entire drive when aiming for just a partition, you'd be pissed
[11:15] <BigRedS_> well, I would be
[11:15] <hmw> BigRedS_: that was, what I was thinking, too - the man page is somewhat confusing about this detail. Thanks.
[11:16] <kennethaar> Clicking on links in thunderbrid doesn't make a link open in firefox. Default webbrowser is set to firefox. But it won't work anyway.
[11:17] <llutz> kennethaar: you have to set http protocol-handler-app in thunderbird
[11:20] <geekphreak> time for work, adios :)
[11:20] <Anon014> hellooo
[11:21] <hmw> !hi | iMuNCo
[11:22] <kennethaar> llutz: Where do I do this
[11:22] <stego__> !apt-get
[11:24] <llutz> kennethaar: user.js or prefs.js, tb-3 should have an option in settings-menu for that, just look for it
[11:24] <lalalol> is it a good idea to add the PPA of every program i have installed? because ubuntu doesnt always update when a newer version of the program is released, even when its stabloe
[11:25] <azlon> for some reason i cannot resize my ntfs RAID using ntfsresize. i get this error: ERROR(21): Opening '/media/ArchiveStorage/' as NTFS failed: Is a directory
[11:25] <llutz> lalalol: if you want always the newest stuff, you shouldn't use a distro with fixed release cycles
[11:25] <BigRedS_> lalalol, it add management overhead and reduces the stability.
[11:25] <DevilsToucH> ##c++
[11:26] <llutz> azlon: i guess it needs a device not a mountpoint
[11:26] <BigRedS_> lalalol, It's a reasonable idea to do it for some specific apps you want to keep bang up to date with, but rather than use hundreds of PPAs you might want to look at a more bleeding-edge-following distro.
[11:26] <azlon> llutz: so i should use /dev/md0/ instead of /media/ArchiveStorage? let me try...
[11:26] <lalalol> BigRedS_, which distro should i use then?
[11:27] <BigRedS_> lalalol, Er, I don't know really. I'm a bit of a debianite - Ubuntu's as bleeding edge as I get
[11:27] <lalalol> BigRedS_, how many PPA's would you use at max?
[11:27] <llutz> lalalol: debian-sid if you know what you're doing
[11:27] <azlon> llutz: http://pastebin.com/6KvBk7Ue
[11:28] <llutz> azlon: no www here, sry
[11:28] <joaopinto> lalalol, you can use getdeb and playdeb for updated packages
[11:28] <lalalol> thx for all the info guys :)
[11:28] <BigRedS_> lalalol, It depends.  If I don't mind the odd bit of messing around, maybe several more. Also depends on teh stability of the PPA - how stable is teh code before it gets into it?
[11:29] <lalalol> BigRedS_, i'd use a ppa for cairodock, pidgin, chromium, and maybe openoffice
[11:29] <BigRedS_> Ah yeah, Debian Unstable's, er, fun and mostly bleeding edge. Debian Testing's approximately Ubuntu but without any releases, just rolling updates.
[11:29] <azlon> llutz: i ran this: "sudo ntfsresize -fn --size 7000G /dev/md0/" and it returned this: "ERROR(20): Failed to check '/dev/md0/' mount state: Not a directory. Probably /etc/mtab is missing. It's too risky to continue. You might try an another Linux distro."
[11:29] <Demiurge> Are there any programs that can send an email if f.ex. a hdd on a server is getting full?
[11:29] <hmw> I am happily wiping already. Thanks for your input! Have a nice Day!
[11:29] <BigRedS_> lalalol, that sounds quite reasonable. It's more if you're up to 15-20 that I'd start cowering
[11:30] <lalalol> ok BigRedS_ , thx, oh and one more thing, which chat client would you recommend, xchat or smuxi?
[11:30] <BigRedS_> Demiurge: several. Munin, Nagios, Cacti. There's probably more desktoppy ones, too
[11:30] <llutz> azlon: sorry i cannot help you, i dont use raid at all and hardly ntfs. imho it's better to use win-tools to work with ntfs
[11:30] <Demiurge> BigRedS_: Thanks.
[11:30] <BigRedS_> lalalol, XChat appears to be reasonable. I normally use irssi. never seen smuxi
[11:30] <lalalol> k BigRedS_
[11:32] <ct529> hi there! I would like to discover whihc package create the directory /usr/include/FL and installed the files that are there
[11:32] <ct529> how do i do that?
[11:32] <llutz> ct529: dpkg -S /usr/include/FL
[11:33] <ct529> llutz: thanks a lot
[11:34] <ct529> llutz: and if I want to find which package would provide the file /usr/include/GL/glu.h before installing it?
[11:34] <llutz> ct529: apt-file search
[11:36] <AdmiralDeath> how do I allow a program access through the ubuntu firewall?
[11:37] <micael> why can i only have a 800x600 on my screen
[11:37] <micael> anyone knows what to do
[11:37] <sebsebseb> Hi
[11:38] <AdmiralDeath> micael: try going to system then hardware drivers
[11:38] <micael> i am new and just trying out linux
[11:38] <AdmiralDeath> see if there is a driver there
[11:38] <micael> AdmiralDeath there is no driver
[11:39] <AdmiralDeath> then I have no idea. I am new to linux myself
[11:39] <micael> it is a Acer aspire m1610 that i have
[11:39] <AdmiralDeath> you tried adjusting the resolution right?
[11:40] <micael> AdmiralDeath in the resolutipn i only have 800x600 and i smaller
[11:40] <azlon> how do i see what a process is based on it's id?
[11:40] <AdmiralDeath> ok thats all I can think of. My knowledge of linux is very small
[11:40] <Zider> micael: what graphics card do you have?
[11:41] <micael> Admiradeath thanks
[11:41] <AdmiralDeath> no problem
[11:42] <AdmiralDeath> so anyone know how to let a program through the ubuntu firewall?
[11:42] <goez> azlon: ps aux | grep <PID>
[11:42] <goez> AdmiralDeath: how do you mean ?
[11:42] <jrib> AdmiralDeath: ubuntu's firewall has no rules setup by default, so there's nothing to do
[11:43] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: Ubuntu is ok by default when it comes to firewall as far as I know,  but you can install gufw  if you want, a graphical program, and tell it to use firewall.
[11:43] <azlon> goez: ok, now how do i kill that process?
[11:43] <llutz> AdmiralDeath: the "firewall" does not app-based
[11:43] <AdmiralDeath> I am using wine to install a program and I need that program to be able to bypass the firewall. I trust the program so it is not a security risk
[11:43] <goez> kill -9 <PID>
[11:43] <llutz> work*
[11:43] <goez> azlon: kill -9 <PID>
[11:43] <AdmiralDeath> well for some reason it is blocking the program I am trying to install
[11:43] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: Which program?
[11:43] <azlon> goez: thanks
[11:43] <AdmiralDeath> Steam
[11:44] <micael> Zider not sure i am trying to find it on acer
[11:44] <llutz> AdmiralDeath: "sudo iptables -L"
[11:44] <Zider> micael: there's no sticker on the computer or something?
[11:44] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: Ubuntu firewall's and Wine aren't exactly linked.  Also you can get Steam working in Wine,  you can ask for help in #winehq
[11:44] <goez> AdmiralDeath: if u have a firewall, u need to open up the steam ports
[11:45] <goez> don't know them out of my head
[11:45] <psycho_oreos> could always run steam and open up terminal, type in sudo lsof -i
[11:45] <micael> Zider it can be sis mirage
[11:45] <AdmiralDeath> I only have whatever comes preinstalled with ubuntu
[11:45] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: if you got say a router with a enabled built in firewall,  well then sure you may need to open up ports in that, for certain applications
[11:45] <azlon> goez: i dont think im doing something right. i am trying to umount my RAID by doing sudo umount /media/ArchiveStorage/. this returns an error of "umount: /media/ArchiveStorage: device is busy." so then i did: "fuser -m /media/ArchiveStorage/" and it returned, "/media/ArchiveStorage/:  3259c"
[11:46] <llutz> AdmiralDeath: there is no filtering by default
[11:46] <AdmiralDeath> I have everything opened in my router
[11:46] <Zider> micael: hm, no idea then.. :/
[11:46] <AdmiralDeath> maybe it is wine
[11:46] <goez> azlon: lsof | grep /media/ArchiveStorage
[11:46] <goez> azlon: that will show the processed that are writing on the disk atm
[11:46] <llutz> AdmiralDeath: ask at #winehq
[11:46] <sebsebseb> AdmiralDeath: I know that Steam should work in wine,  because as far as I know quite a lot of other people have been successful
[11:46] <AdmiralDeath> k thanks
[11:47] <azlon> goez: it didnt return anything
[11:47] <azlon> goez: this is what i have done so far: http://pastebin.com/9Bgu9H82
[11:47] <FunkyWeasel> Morning.  Funny thing - setting up a new webserver on an internal machine, fresh karmic install - but trying to set up mysql and I find the default root password is not blank.  Has this changed in Karmic?
[11:48] <Raydiation> which package do i need for 32bit gl on a 64bit system?
[11:48] <Raydiation> need it for wine
[11:48] <jrib> FunkyWeasel: iirc, you are asked to set one during install
[11:48] <micael> Zider ok thanks
[11:48] <alicja> hello
[11:49] <alicja> ?
[11:49] <FunkyWeasel> jrib: That's what I though.  I used synaptic.  It did not prompt me.
[11:49] <goez> azlon: try fuser -v /media/ArchiveStorage
[11:49] <jrib> FunkyWeasel: try dpkg-reconfigure whatever-the-package-was
[11:49] <azlon> goez: nothing
[11:49] <goez> then try a forced umount
[11:49] <Simon1245> Hello guys, I need help.. Does anyone know how to use .awn thing? I want to use the Avant Window Navigator but I don't know how I can get it working, Could anyone please help me?
[11:50] <goez> sudo umount /media/ArchiveStorage --force
[11:50] <goez> or -o force
[11:50] <FunkyWeasel> jrib: No apparent response to dkpg-reconfigure
[11:50] <jrib> FunkyWeasel: just reset the password I guess, the mysql docs have instructions
[11:50] <G_A_C> dpkg-reconfigure -p low packagename could be better
[11:50] <alicja> what is install flash ?
[11:50] <alicja> help me
[11:50] <alicja> please
[11:50] <alicja> i am in poland
[11:50] <jrib> !flash > alicja
[11:51] <alicja> !flash
[11:51] <G_A_C> in case for some reason root password isn't listed as a high priority question (although I can't think of much higher!)
[11:51] <FunkyWeasel> jrib: Aye, there's the deb hack.  Strange that I have to though.  I thought default pword was blank.  Something's obviously changed in karmic.
[11:51] <azlon> goez: none of those worked, they all returned "device is busy"
[11:51] <stego__> !chroot
[11:52] <jrib> FunkyWeasel: it did used to be blank but I seem to recall having to set a password in debconf so it must have changed.  It should have still worked even if you used synaptic though
[11:52] <FunkyWeasel> Yup - l/databases/mysql/ubuntu-9.10-karmic at site ibrary.linode.com says the same.  I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling mysql-server with apt-get.  No prompt for pword.
[11:52] <goez> azlon: can u do a ps auxw|grep 3259  ?
[11:53] <goez> or
[11:53] <goez> azlon: do 'sudo ps auxw|grep 3259'  ?
[11:53] <azlon> ok
[11:54] <azlon> goez: http://pastebin.com/Yqy6NTr3
[11:54] <goez> azlon: is it a samba share?
[11:54] <azlon> yes
[11:54] <G_A_C> FunkyWeasel: did you remove or purge mysql?
[11:54] <goez> azlon: thats the problem, ur samba deamon is still accessing the drive
[11:54] <G_A_C> remove may have left the old config intact, meaning it wouldn't ask you for the password again
[11:54] <xplinux> i need  vuze an google earth for complete my xplinux   , ylmf os i need links
[11:55] <goez> azlon: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd stop (or smb stop)
[11:55] <azlon> goez, crap... so i need to kill smb
[11:55] <FunkyWeasel> g_a_c: Just tried a package remove.  It's a fresh copy of mysql, nothing importanted, no config changes.   Highly confusing.
[11:55] <goez> azlon: u can gracefully stop it with that init.d script :p
[11:55] <FunkyWeasel> g_a_c: Have not successfully logged in to mysql yet.
[11:55] <goez> azlon: then u mount and then restart smb (/etc/init.d/smb start)
[11:55] <azlon> both smb and smbd say command not found
[11:55] <xplinux> i need debian packs because i dont know compile
[11:56] <david_brent> can anybody tell me what fstype i need to ut to mount an img file
[11:56] <goez> azlon: and samba or sumthing? (try /etc/init.d/s<tab>) also don't forget u need to run it as root
[11:56] <david_brent> need to put*
[11:56] <FunkyWeasel> Can't even use sudo /etc/init.d/mysql reset-password because I also get access denied!
[11:56] <goez> FunkyWeasel: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server ?
[11:57] <FunkyWeasel> goez: Does nothing.
[11:57] <azlon> goez: freaking awesome! thanks!
[11:57] <goez> azlon: yw
[11:57] <alicja><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:57] <alicja> !help
[11:58] <goez> FunkyWeasel: check here http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[11:58] <goez> FunkyWeasel: under B.<IP_ADDRESS>. Resetting the Root Password on Unix Systems
[11:58] <FunkyWeasel> goez: Cheers.
[11:59] <xplinux> i need  links for packs debian    the programs are vuze and google earth
[12:00] <hateball> !info vuze
[12:00] <hateball> xplinux: sudo aptitude install vuze
[12:01] <FunkyWeasel> Ah, got it.  Right.  Cheers folks :)
[12:01] <Simon1245> Can anyone help me with avant windows navigator?
[12:01] <goez> xplinux: google earth can be downloaded for linux on earth.google.com
[12:01] <xplinux> yes problems with vuze i dont found packs debian for vuze, vuze is very dificult for install in linux , sure
[12:02] <azlon> goez: do you happen to know how to do a ntfs check with ntfsprogs?
[12:02] <goez> azlon: I've read something about them ... but also read ntfs utils on linux ain't that good...
[12:02] <goez> azlon: so can't help u there I'm afraid
[12:02] <azlon> hrmm
[12:02] <AdmiralDeath> I am having a problem with the nvidia driver
[12:03] <goez> azlon: try here : http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php
[12:03] <AdmiralDeath> says Failed to parse existing X Config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[12:03] <azlon> goez: already reading through it ;) thanks!!
[12:04] <xplinux> i use the most easy version linux for users windows  my distro linux is ylmf o.s and is ike xp but better
[12:04] <xplinux> like xp
[12:05] <meborc> slow day here today
[12:07] <reeniginEesreveR> i have ubuntu server. when i try to start mysql using /etc/init.d/mysql start ... it says failed. Nothing in the logs :S how do i figure out whats going on?
[12:08] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: check syslog for errors
[12:09] <danielleek> Hi
[12:10] <mentok> uh, what's the release date on 10 again?
[12:10] <haavaros> Hi! In evolution, work phone numbers doesn't show up in list view. Does anyone know about this?
[12:11] <bazhang> !lucid | mentok
[12:11] <peterson> any idea how to communicate directly with the Ubuntu developers?
[12:11] <mentok> thank you.
[12:11] <jrib> peterson: for what purpose?
[12:12] <peterson> I need to give my sugesstions to `em.
[12:12] <bazhang> !brainstorm | peterson
[12:12] <peterson> Before Lucid released.
[12:12] <bazhang> feature freeze tomorrow
[12:13] <rww> final freeze. feature freeze was a while ago.
[12:13] <reeniginEesreveR> goez, syslog says that mysql port 3306 might be already in use although nothing is using 3306 at this time
[12:13] <bazhang> whoops thanks rww
[12:13] <rww> and final freeze was last week, actually :3
[12:14] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: netstat -tap |grep 3306
[12:14] <petmark> Isn't the final April 29th?
[12:14] <judgen> any simple way of getting qt apps look like my gtk theme?
[12:14] <ravn> hi folks, in my 9.10 GNOME has suddenly stopped to mount things, dmesg discovers that e.g. a new SD-card has been inserted, but it is not mounted by GNOME, what's wrong??
[12:14] <bazhang> petmark, yes
[12:14] <reeniginEesreveR> goez, nohing else is listening on 3306 :S
[12:15] <petmark> So I know one gift I'll get for my birthday.
[12:15] <peterson> lucid is about to release I`m not sure whether is this too late.
[12:15] <bazhang> peterson, it is. #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[12:16] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: and when u telnet localhost 3306 u don't get anything either?
[12:16] <petmark> I haven't setup an Ubuntu system from scratch for awhile, since you can just upgrade to the next. On a clean install, is DHCP on by default?
[12:16] <BigRedS_> petmark, yup
[12:16] <goez> petmark: yes
[12:16] <petmark> IPV4 and/or IPV6?
[12:16] <goez> petmark: I think ipv4
[12:17] <reeniginEesreveR> goez: nope
[12:17] <AdmiralDeath> anyone know anything about Nvidia drivers for ubuntu
[12:17] <AdmiralDeath> ?
[12:18] <ikonia> just ask the question
[12:18] <petmark> Thanks. ( I always change mine to static, so I didn't remember the defaults. )
[12:18] <BigRedS_> I know a couple of things about them
[12:18] <AdmiralDeath> says Failed to parse existing X Config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[12:18] <BigRedS_> petmark, there is the option of setting static in the installer I think.
[12:18] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: weird :/
[12:19] <reeniginEesreveR> goez, :(
[12:19] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, is there an /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and can you read it as the user you're running the NVIdia installer as?
[12:19] <goez> reeniginEesreveR: and ur sure u are running it as root?
[12:19] <BigRedS_> if there isn't one (there's not by default), just touching it might help
[12:19] <nsp> Hi! Can someone help me out with Ubuntu sound.  I installed Ubuntu 9.10 a week ago and i still cannot use my headphones. I have laptop with integrated sound card. Speakers are fine by the way. I checked alsamixer and un-muted everything there but output still doesnt work
[12:19] <reeniginEesreveR> goez, i sure am
[12:19] <azlon> goez: ok, so the more i read the more i realized NTFS on linux just plain suxors... is there any way to convert the fs to ext3 without having to reformat or move all of my information?
[12:20] <BigRedS_> nsp do you know which sound chipset you've got?
[12:20] <reeniginEesreveR> but when i try to connect, it says  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:20] <BigRedS_> azlon, Nope
[12:20] <goez> azlon: don't think so
[12:20] <AdmiralDeath> BigRedS: yes there is a xorg.conf and yes I can read it
[12:20] <BigRedS_> Does X report any errors on parsing it? It might be malformed
[12:20] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, ^^
[12:21] <AdmiralDeath> it does not say anything about errors
[12:21] <BigRedS_> Hm?
[12:21] <AdmiralDeath> do I need to be using the terminal to open it?
[12:21] <haavaros> Funny problem i Evolution: When I save a number in contacts under work phone, the number is moved to 'fax home' when I save. When I save under 'fax home' it is moved to 'home phone' etc. What's up with that?
[12:21] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, using the terminal to open what?
[12:22] <BigRedS_> You must have X stopped to install the driver
[12:22] <AdmiralDeath> the xorg.conf
[12:22] <BigRedS_> or certainly used to need to
[12:22] <BigRedS_> Ah, no.
[12:22] <AdmiralDeath> all I have is sections for screen module and device
[12:22] <BigRedS_> The errors will be xorg's log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:22] <BigRedS_> Lines beginning '(EE)' are errors, which is what you'd expect if you had a malformed xorg.conf
[12:23] <BigRedS_> so
[12:23] <BigRedS_> grep EE /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:23] <BigRedS_> normally tells you if you've errors
[12:23] <BigRedS_> in a terminal
[12:23] <xplinux> with the easy than is  found and  install programs in windows  but with linux problems .... always problems..
[12:24] <icl> hi
[12:24] <BigRedS_> xplinux, what?
[12:24] <jrib> !software > xplinux
[12:24] <icl> need friend
[12:24] <AdmiralDeath> I opended the log file and there are no lines starting with EE
[12:25] <tmroly> :(
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> xplinux:  the thing is in windows you go on the web and 'find' things.. in ubuntu you want to use teh package manager tools and let them find things.
[12:25] <tmroly> :P
[12:27] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, try moving the xorg.conf file elsewhere (xorg.conf.bak ?) and rerunning the driver installer? might break X, so keep the current one handy to unbreak it
[12:27] <AdmiralDeath> ok I will try that
[12:29] <AdmiralDeath> it would seem that I dont have permission
[12:29] <BigRedS_> ah yeah, you won't. root does
[12:29] <BigRedS_> In a terminal:
[12:29] <AdmiralDeath> let me log in as root and see if I can do it there
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> to work with a system file. You need 'root' rights of course. :)
[12:29] <BigRedS_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[12:29] <BigRedS_> Noo! Don't log in as root!
[12:29] <BigRedS_> There be dragons
[12:29] <micael> anyone knows how to do with a sis mirage 771 card to work in the new ubuntu
[12:30] <haavaros> How do I upgrade a single program (e.g. Evolution)?
[12:30] <xplinux> dr the manager tools in linusx arent automatics for this reason the users windows with linux have problems many problems
[12:30] <BigRedS_> haavaros: apt-get install evolution
[12:30] <AdmiralDeath> ok I typed that command
[12:30] <haavaros> oh ... thx
[12:31] <BigRedS_> haavaros will install the latest version of evolution that's in the repository and update all dependencies
[12:31] <AdmiralDeath> and nothing happened
[12:31] <sleenk> i'm having a problem. i closed my lid on my laptop (which enables a blank screen) and i came back a few hours later, opened the lid, and it's still blank. i can see the cursor and move the mouse and it looks like i am hovering over apps because the cursor changes, any suggestions?
[12:31] <sleenk> i am using ubuntu 9.10 amd64
[12:31] <nomnex> bash: vim <filename>. But how to open the same file +UTF-8? what option do I pass in the terminal?
[12:31] <AdmiralDeath> it asked for my password but it appears to have done nothing
[12:32] <BigRedS_> nomnex, set enc=utf-8
[12:32] <mbd> /JOIN #sex
[12:32] <BigRedS_> in vim
[12:32] <mbd>
[12:32] <haavaros> BigRedS_: Ok, it didn't update, although latest version is 2.30 and I have 2.28. I guess it's not in the repos, then
[12:32] <JSund> haavaros: gnome 2.30 will be shipped with lucid
[12:32] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, if it succeeds it'll not say anything. do   ls /etc/X11   and you should see it's copied. then delete the current one (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[12:32] <nomnex> BigRedS_, vim set enc=utf-8 <filename>? I don't want it to be permanent, only for this file
[12:32] <iceroot> nomnex: IN vim
[12:33] <AdmiralDeath> I cant delete the current one
[12:33] <AdmiralDeath> it wont let me
[12:33] <MasterOfDisaster> nomnex: don't forget typing ':' :-)
[12:33] <BigRedS_> nomnex. No, open vim, then  set enc=utf-8   then :o <filename>
[12:33] <BigRedS_> I think.
[12:33] <AdmiralDeath> I tell it to delete and it does nothing
[12:33] <smith> hello can someone help me get the original panel back for my desktop?
[12:33] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, so both files are still there, and it's not produced an error?
[12:34] <nomnex> BigRedS_, thanks, IN vim makes sens now (iceroot)
[12:34] <AdmiralDeath> correct
[12:34] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, In Linux, things succeed silently - if all went well, it doesn't say anything.
[12:34] <AdmiralDeath> other then the original error
[12:34] <BigRedS_> AdmiralDeath, That *is* weird
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !restorepanel
[12:34] <balachmar> \j #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <AdmiralDeath> figures
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:35] <smith> ubottu that sound malicious
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> one user if able to see another users files by going to /home/username
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> why ?
[12:35] <silv3r_m00n> how to disable this ?
[12:35] <BigRedS_> smith, it unsets user configuration to the panel, then kills the process running it. GDM then reinvokes it with the new defaults
[12:36] <BigRedS_> silv3r_m00n, look at file permissions. It's not an easy IRC explanation, but it's not particularly difficult, either
[12:36] <haavaros> I see that Evolution saves account settings in home/.gconf. Are those deleted upon uninstall?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> haavaros:  uninstall of what?
[12:36] <MasterOfDisaster> silv3r_m00n: use chmod
[12:36] <haavaros> Dr_Willis: Evolutoin
[12:36]  * smith shifts uneasily in his chair
[12:36] <BigRedS_> haavaros: not by default. apt-get --purge remove evolution will remove them
[12:36] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, try changing the directory perms with chmod -R 700 directoryname
[12:36] <BigRedS_> well, purge all evo's config files
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> haavaros:  thats windows thinking..  the package manager  should NOT touch user settings/configs in their home
[12:36] <silv3r_m00n> but by default arnt the files of one user supposed to be inaccessible to other users
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> BigRedS_:   not user files.. system files yes..
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  not really.
[12:37] <haavaros> BigRedS_: Dr_Willis: OK, so when I reinstall it without the purge option it'll work with all account I have now?
[12:37] <silv3r_m00n> means all users can read and modify all other users files
[12:37] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[12:37] <BigRedS_> yeah
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  if you want you can lock downt eh dirs more.. but then you may break that 'user defined shares' feature
[12:37] <haavaros> k thx
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:   you are misstaken..  SEE, yes,, read,, perhaps.. Write.. No.
[12:37] <smith> sweet bigred and mr botu, it worked
[12:37] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, you can't delete them or write usually
[12:37] <smith> thanks
[12:37] <smith> ^^
[12:37] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  time to read up on Linux filesystem permissions
[12:38] <smith> you just earned coll points
[12:38] <smith> :D
[12:38] <Dr4g> Xorg taking up 99% CPU what could it be ?
[12:38] <smith> thanks
[12:38] <silv3r_m00n> on ubuntu 9.10 my microphone doesn't work
[12:38] <smith> peace
[12:38] <silv3r_m00n> how to make it work
[12:39] <JSund> silv3r_m00n: impossible to answer if you don't specify what hardware you have
[12:39] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, click on the volume icon on the top bar , open sound preferences , browse to Input tab , there uncheck "mute"
[12:40] <silv3r_m00n> tried all that still doesn't work
[12:40] <nsp> BigRedS_: I think it is called Realtek HD Audio
[12:40] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, what do you see under Choose a device for a sound input
[12:41] <nsp> BigRedS_ : I think it is called Realtek HD Audio
[12:41] <silv3r_m00n> me on kde
[12:42] <AdmiralDeath> ok it is telling me Nvidia installer must be run as root
[12:42] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, right , but you hear output sounds right , so your audio card is okay
[12:42] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, and the mic is internal stuff right?
[12:42] <silv3r_m00n> yah I can listen to music
[12:43] <silv3r_m00n> but mic doesn't work
[12:43] <BigRedS_> nsp, I don't know the current status of realtek drivers in Linux, but they used to be iffy
[12:43] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, so all we fight against is some audio control in the prefs jungle
[12:43] <AdmiralDeath> How do I exit X?
[12:43] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[12:44] <g0r3_0f_g0d> silv3r_m00n, coz if you hear music means the mic is also there hardwarewise
[12:44] <JSund> might be problem with the hardware as well - it's a known bug that the internal microphone on my laptop (Acer TM 8371) doesn't work, for one
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> AdmiralDeath:  one way ' sudo service gdm stop'
[12:44] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath, just logout :)
[12:44] <pvh_sa|wrk> hi there... i recently switched from compiz to metacity as a wm (ubuntu 9.10) and now when i play videos, they just show up as a black square. any hints?
[12:44] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis, moo !!!
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> geekphreak:  Muu!
[12:45] <AdmiralDeath> ok now I am trying to log in and it is telling me incorrect login
[12:45] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath, again?
[12:46] <AdmiralDeath> lol
[12:46] <AdmiralDeath> so it would appear I cannot log into the command line interface
[12:46] <geekphreak> what name are you choosing?
[12:46] <AdmiralDeath> inman
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> Or you are typing the name/pass wrong
[12:46] <BRc> hey
[12:47] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath,  you know the drill, press alt+f2 >> users-admin
[12:47] <AdmiralDeath> too late
[12:47] <AdmiralDeath> got it
[12:47] <AdmiralDeath> it does not like the numpad
[12:47] <geekphreak> AdmiralDeath, about time ;)
[12:47] <BRc> everytime i try this command ..echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:47] <BRc> bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied
[12:47] <BRc> how come
[12:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Brc , supposedly needs sudo for that
[12:48] <haavaros> Evolution problem: Contact data entered under 'work phone' is saved under 'fax home'. Data under 'fax home' is saved as 'home phone'. Data under 'home phone' is saved correctly. This error is also shown in list view of contacts. The column 'work phone' displays and sorts according to 'fax home' data. What kind of error is this?
[12:48] <BRc> i tried sudo...
[12:48] <BRc> sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:48] <BRc> bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied
[12:49] <g0r3_0f_g0d> can you do ls -l on that file BRc
[12:49] <BRc> u want me to paste it
[12:50] <geekphreak> i think AdmiralDeath likes the command line
[12:50] <BRc> g0r3_0f_g0d, u want me to paste that
[12:50] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Brc , do this , sudo su -
[12:51] <om26er> I installed ubuntu on a system and it works fine but it does not boot if I insert the pci wifi nothing happens after xsplash
[12:51] <AdmiralDeath> not really
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> err.. 'sudo -i' will work in stead of 'sudo su -'
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Brc , echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop-caches
[12:51] <AdmiralDeath> I would prefer to use the GUI but it is not getting the job done
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> then exit
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> :)
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> uff
[12:51] <g0r3_0f_g0d> the issue is the file is rw only for root:root
[12:52] <om26er> xp boots fine on the same system
[12:52] <g0r3_0f_g0d> wondering what the actual drop_caches control does
[12:53] <BRc> g0r3_0f_g0d, thanks very much
[12:54] <ubuntu-usr> i have 2 wirless devices. one should connect with internet network, another should connect to local wireless intranet. how troubleshoot this problem? is any how to in the the web?
[12:54] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ubuntu-usr, this is just routing setup, default route should point to the internet wireless router and the rest of the intranet subnet to the intranet router as a gateway
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-usr:  theres dozens of 'wireles guides' on the web and in many disrto wiki pages/forums. it depends on the exact issue you are having and what you want to do with it.
[12:56] <AdmiralDeath> ok
[12:56] <ubuntu-usr> Dr_Willis, should you give an example of any wiki for my case?
[12:56] <AdmiralDeath> I installed the Nvidia driver from their website
[12:56] <AdmiralDeath> lets see if that works
[12:56] <ubuntu-usr> Dr_Willis, sorry colud you i mean
[12:56] <BRc> is ubuntu better then windows??
[12:56] <AdmiralDeath> LOL BRc
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-usr:  i found the archlinux wiki pages to have some very good core information on setting up wireless cards.. but it depends on your exact needs and the exact issue.
[12:56] <BRc> what a silly question..offcourse it is....lol
[12:56] <eveningsky> Anyone here know much about jack audio? Much appreciated if you could meet me over #jack to help me.
[12:56] <menghan> hello, everyone, can I fire a bug here?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> !bugs | menghan
[12:57] <ojii> is it normal that dbus_daemon uses 150MB ram?
[12:57] <azlon> how can i run a chkdsk on linux? i have a 8TB RAID5 that is in NTFS format and i need to run chkdsk before i can expand it.
[12:57] <menghan> Dr_Willis: thanks
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> menghan:  i would have to suggest using a windows machine to  check a 8tb windows raid..
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Because I bet you dont have any backups if the linux box messed it up.
[12:58] <geekphreak> azlon,  just my thinking, if it is ntfs , use something like a windows cd/dvd to run a chkdsk or windows system
[12:58] <BigRedS_> Dr_Willis, I think that might've been aimed at azlon
[12:58] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon, fsck does the job partially , so like fsck -t ntfs /dev/somepartition
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> proberly :) heh
[12:59] <g0r3_0f_g0d> if you have ntfs progs installed
[12:59] <BigRedS_> But, yeah, I'd not go anywhere near NTFS with anything but WIndows if I could help it
[12:59] <menghan> Dr_Willis: what do you mean?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> fscking ntfs - isent really.. the same. :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> menghan:  i see nicks scrill by too fast.  it was for azlon
[12:59] <g0r3_0f_g0d> yah but better as nothing
[12:59] <azlon> geekphreak: but this is a fake raid so if i boot from a XP cd/dvd then it wont see it, will it?
[12:59] <menghan> Dr_Willis: :D
[12:59] <g0r3_0f_g0d> the best is to fdisk , reformat , mkfs.ntfs :P
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  You made a 8tb ntfs raid under linux?
[13:00] <g0r3_0f_g0d> can you actually make ntfs software raid volumes ?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> i wonder why you would want it.. if theres no windows on the box to read it..
[13:01] <geekphreak> true
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> so im totally confiused. :)
[13:01] <BRc> 8tb?? got any spare???
[13:01] <azlon> g0r3_0f_g0d: i tried running fsck -t ntfs and it gave me, "fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found"... how can i install it (apt-get install fsck.ntfs didnt work)
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> I dident think there even was a fsck.ntfs
[13:02] <g0r3_0f_g0d> sudo apt-get ntfs-progs it would be rather
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> !find fsck.ntfs
[13:02] <azlon> Dr_Willis: yes, i know it was stupid now that i look back, but his was several years ago when i was still just getting into linux... now i have grown myself into a corner
[13:02] <menghan> Dr_Willis: I need help. I don't known which prog has bug
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> You have had a 8TB setup for several years?
[13:02] <g0r3_0f_g0d> sudo apt-get ntfs-3g actually
[13:03] <g0r3_0f_g0d> sudo apt-get ntfs-config
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> g0r3_0f_g0d:  ya may want an 'install' in there :)
[13:03] <g0r3_0f_g0d> small detail
[13:03] <g0r3_0f_g0d> don't be picky :P
[13:03] <azlon> Dr_Willis: no, i started with 4TB, then kept growing it 1TB at a time. i originally had 2 TB on a Vista machine, but then decided to try linux... anyway... now i am sharing 6TB of media with the rest of the systems in my house (windows 7)
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Im still not 100% sure you can do a 'proper' ntfs filesystem check  with the ntfs tools.. it can flag the volume as clean. but thats not really checking anything.
[13:04] <geekphreak> i wont recommend it
[13:04] <menghan> Dr_Willis: I mean, I have a problem, but it involves both vim and gnome-terminal
[13:04] <g0r3_0f_g0d> true , the progs are really for mounting
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  i have several TB. but i  dont merge them into a single raid. :0
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> menghan:  state the actual problem and let the channel help out/decide what the issue is
[13:05] <g0r3_0f_g0d> it involves vim and gnome-terminal , sounds kinky :)
[13:05] <azlon> Dr_Willis: why not? i thought a raid would be better since it provides some safety for drive failures
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  depends on what sort of raid you are using.
[13:05] <nsp> I am reading a documentation on how to instal skype and it says that people who have amd64 can't use skype repositries to instal skype through package management. Why is that?
[13:05] <BRc> 8tb?? got any spare???
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  i have a 'stack' of exteranl usb hd's :)  a 'redundant stack of usb drives' -> RSOUB :)
[13:06] <viliny> Hey, what was the release date for lucid? and what was the channel to discuss this again? :)
[13:06] <azlon> BRc: no, no spares but i have some on the way
[13:06] <h00k> viliny: ubuntu+1
[13:06] <BRc> great
[13:06] <menghan> gnome-terminal become chaos after vim quit in a directory which contains non-ascii char
[13:06] <geekphreak> !lucid | viliny
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> I just pick up 1 and 1.5 TB drives when i find them on sale..  next is moving to 2TB disks
[13:06] <ZykoticK9> nsp, skype was removed from medibuntu anyways (just download from the site, is only way to install now)
[13:06] <viliny> thank you h00k and geekphreak
[13:07] <Nanashi> What's the best way to convert a Colour PDF to a Greyscale PDF?
[13:07] <geekphreak> np
[13:07] <menghan> chaos, I means several block chars, totally chaos
[13:07] <azlon> g0r3_0f_g0d: ok, so i installed ntfs-3g (already installed) and ntfs-config but i still get "fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found"
[13:07] <mrp> whats the best way to backup my home directory on schedule basis? avoiding cmd line hopefully :D
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[13:07] <mrp> to a usb and/or ssh and/or smb share
[13:08] <BigRedS_> azlon, you need ntfsprogs IIRC
[13:08] <nsp> ZykticK9 : I will but from what i understand that way i wont be able to get updates though which kind of sucks
[13:08] <mrp> !sbackup
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> mrp:  'rsync' is a handy tool to learn about.
[13:08] <hateball> !info ntfsprogs | azlon
[13:08] <ZykoticK9> nsp, skype isn't in any default repo... no other option
[13:08] <IdleOne> mrp: grsync is a GUI for rsync
[13:08] <azlon> BigRedS_: i already have ntfsprogs, and i thought i could do a ntfsck but it isnt implimented in the package
[13:09] <azlon> BigRedS_: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsck
[13:09] <francesco_>  	/msg PoRnAzZi|032 XDCC SEND #17
[13:09] <azlon> bah! he left...
[13:09] <azlon> hrmm
[13:10] <mrp> Dr_Willis: yeah i know about that but its too manual :D
[13:10] <azlon> hateball: what part of ntfsprogs would i use to do a chkdsk?
[13:10] <hateball> azlon: you could try ntfsfix
[13:10] <mrp> Dr_Willis: I just want to back my laptop to my 5TB NAS
[13:10] <azlon> hateball: already tried it... it shows my errors but doesnt fix them
[13:10] <hateball> azlon: but really.. I'd use windows to handle large/important ntfs data
[13:10] <hateball> azlon: whats the issue?
[13:10] <nsp> ZykticK9 : No, but there is an official skype repository. I was just curious why it said that in case you have amd64 it wont work?
[13:11] <azlon> hateball: i would love to, but this is a 8TB fake-raid... will windows see the raid?
[13:11] <azlon> hateball: i just grew my 6TB RAID-5 to 8TB. now when i try to extend the fs to the full 8TB it tells me i need to run chkdsk /f in windows
[13:11] <gilligan_> azlon: fake-raid as in lvm raid or bios fake raid ?
[13:12] <azlon> gilligan_: mdadm
[13:12] <gilligan_> azlon: why on earth do you use ntfs for it ?
[13:12] <geekphreak> azlon,  there is one more thing you can do
[13:12] <azlon> uh oh, im afraid to ask
[13:12] <geekphreak> azlon,  there are some boot disk for windows which can read ntfs and have checkdsk option, you can try those :)
[13:13] <azlon> geekphreak: i though about that, but will they recognize the RAID?
[13:13] <azlon> i thought only linux would recognize the fake-raid
[13:14] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon , this is not really ubuntu problem now , chkdsk /f will only really fix stuff under windows
[13:14] <g0r3_0f_g0d> the fsck version can only mark certain things wrong not fix them
[13:14] <geekphreak> azlon, they should, i am not 100% sure though
[13:14] <azlon> i have other windows machines, can i run chkdsk over a network?
[13:14] <ctmnz> hello all
[13:14] <IdleOne> !windows
[13:14] <g0r3_0f_g0d> nope , the chkdsk only works with local drives
[13:15] <ctmnz> I have problem with text mode installation screen while i'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 9.10
[13:15] <azlon> hrmm
[13:15] <geekphreak> ctmnz, what error , can you specify?
[13:15] <pelon> Hey guys! How do I get my USB headset to work on skype? Do I need to remove pulseaudio and replace it with something else?
[13:15] <ctmnz> my screen flickers
[13:15] <azlon> g0r3_0f_g0d: well how can i get fsck.ntfs working?
[13:16] <g0r3_0f_g0d> lemme see
[13:16] <geekphreak> screen flickr ctmnz?
[13:17] <BlaDe^> hi buyd
[13:17] <geekphreak> ctmnz, it happens when you are working also or just during ubuntu install?
[13:17] <ctmnz> geekphreak, it starts to flicker after the first menu.. when I choose 'Install ubuntu'
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d>
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> man-page for "ntfsfix" dated January 2006, taken from ntfsprogs 2.0.0
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> This web-page was last updated: 2009-01-27, 09:17 (GMT+1)
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Name
[13:18] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ntfsfix - fix common errors and force Windows to check NTFS
[13:18] <FloodBot4> g0r3_0f_g0d: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <pelon> how do i install alsa?
[13:18] <ctmnz> geekphreak, it happens only when i try to install ubuntu... i have tested with centos boot disk and it doesnt flickers
[13:19] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis, on normal cd there is an option to work with lower graphic during install right?
[13:19] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon , the thing is called ntfsfix , it is a part of ntfsprogs
[13:19] <Superbest> hello
[13:20] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon , i'd suppose you just sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb or something
[13:20] <g0r3_0f_g0d> sdXX to be acurate
[13:20] <geekphreak> or if anyone can confirm IdleOne
[13:20] <g0r3_0f_g0d> the link to the manual : http://man.linux-ntfs.org/ntfsfix.8.html
[13:21] <g0r3_0f_g0d> i'd not really get my hopes up
[13:21] <Superbest> what does the file command do and can someone run it for me on a small image?
[13:21] <ctmnz> my video controller has only DVI output
[13:21] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, "file" in a terminal will tell you what type of file it is
[13:22] <Superbest> ZykoticK9, even if the extension is wrong?
[13:22] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, yeah , it does analyze the file
[13:22] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, linux doesn't care about file extensions - reiles on output of file instead
[13:23] <Superbest> ok, I don't have linux installed right now and I need to run it on an image file
[13:23] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, i'd imagine it's on the LiveCD
[13:23] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, elaborate on that concept , if you already know it's an image why try to discover it's an image
[13:25] <Superbest> g0r3_0f_g0d, it was output by the mac's screenshot command thing, so it's an image. I don't know how to open it on another system tho
[13:25] <BigRedS_> Oh, an image as in a picture?
[13:25] <g0r3_0f_g0d> right , clicking open in thing like photoshop , regardless of extension will try to discover the image type
[13:25] <BigRedS_> OSX has   file   doesn't it?
[13:25] <BigRedS_> to find out what image format it is?
[13:26] <g0r3_0f_g0d> in windows if the extension is not registered you can manually force it to use paint or stuff
[13:26] <g0r3_0f_g0d> and screenshots of macosx are usually .png type afaik
[13:26] <azlon> ok, let me do some math here... i have an 8TB raid where I am only using 6TBs... that means 1 for redundancy... 5TBs, i can shrink the volume down to 6TB again, take out the extra 2, copy 2 TB of data to the drives, then shink it again and keep doing that until i have all the drives seperated and running normal... then start building the raid back up 2 drives at a time, but this time with an etx fs
[13:26] <Yum|---> hello everybody...
[13:27] <azlon> my only question is can windows easily access etx fs? i need all of my other machines in the house to be able to access the media on this raid
[13:27] <g0r3_0f_g0d> azlon , another dead end tunnel windows don't like ext2|3|4fs
[13:27] <erUSUL> azlon: make it aviable via samba
[13:27] <ZykoticK9> azlon, ext2/3 probably, ext4 no
[13:27] <BigRedS_> azlon, are all the machines accessing it through scsi/ide/sata?
[13:27] <erUSUL> !samba | azlon
[13:28] <BigRedS_> if it's over the network, it doesn't matter what the filesystem on the disk is, 'cause the other machines aren';t interested in that
[13:28] <Superbest> g0r3_0f_g0d, BigRedS_, I tried opening in photoshop and paint tho, didn'T work
[13:28] <g0r3_0f_g0d> can it be that the file is simply scrambled
[13:28] <g0r3_0f_g0d> but the best is really to run a file agains it
[13:28] <g0r3_0f_g0d> you're right
[13:28] <BigRedS_> azlon, If they are (i.e. you're unplugging the disks, going over to the other machine, plugging them in), you're doing it wrong and should be using something like samba or nfs
[13:29] <diogo_> hihh
[13:29] <linx|> BigRedS_: not necessarily
[13:30] <linx|> but in this case probably, agreed
[13:30] <BigRedS_> linx|, in general, then
[13:30] <Superbest> g0r3_0f_g0d, also possible
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[13:31] <g0r3_0f_g0d> just to see what sort of crap is it really Superbest , can be packed or something
[13:31] <azlon> sorry, went to the bathroom
[13:31] <g0r3_0f_g0d> or summa totally different
[13:31] <Superbest> g0r3_0f_g0d, packed?
[13:31] <g0r3_0f_g0d> not even an image like
[13:31] <azlon> BigRedS_: all the machines access this ubuntu machine through the network... im not sure if i answered your question correctly
[13:32] <g0r3_0f_g0d> i dunno really , you tell me what sort of thing is it , how did you get it and what do you expect it to be , Superbest
[13:32] <Yahweh> azlon, you're really sorry that someone addressed you while you were discharging or evacuating human waste?
[13:32] <g0r3_0f_g0d> if photoshop fails with it's huge library of compatible image formats then i dunno of any better choice
[13:32] <nmvictor> is their a way i could unlock my Huwaei modem in linux?
[13:33] <azlon> Yahweh: there were 5 people that addressed me... i feel if i'm looking for help i should stick around for a reply
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Yaweh: might have had a bath too ;)
[13:34] <geekphreak> Superbest, you on mac right?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> G0r3_0f_g0d: could use imagemagick to convert the images
[13:35] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, what file command does it runs through the file header and try to compare to the default signatures
[13:35] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, normally even if the extension is wrong it will try to tell you the file type
[13:35] <g0r3_0f_g0d> if you're on a a mac the file command is available there too
[13:35] <Superbest> geekphreak, no. A mac created the file, but I don't have access to a mac right now
[13:36] <geekphreak> yes it is
[13:36] <sab> before starting my ubuntu it was giving me some msg like "broken file;can not be wirte";i was trying to delete some thing from my home folder but i cant,i got a crash prog??what happened?i m a new user and using lucid; can anyone please help me?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | sab
[13:37] <geekphreak> sab, #ubuntu+1
[13:37] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, what os are u on now
[13:37] <Superbest> windows
[13:37] <Superbest> xp
[13:37] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, sorry we're getting back to the beggining when you asked if anyone could run file against it
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Sab: if you are a new user I strongly advise karmic as it has far far fewer issues. Lucid still has lots of glitches and will do a while after release too
[13:37] <sab> geekphreak, i already asked on ubuntu+1,but no one was responding
[13:38] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, I'd but behind a firewall can't accept files
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Sab: lucid is not discussed here
[13:38] <g0r3_0f_g0d> any takers
[13:38] <Superbest> I have the files uploaded
[13:38] <Superbest> http://www.mediafire.com/?tuwnwwmhket
[13:38] <jeremy> #fife
[13:38] <Someguy77> how do you use bluetooth in ubuntu?
[13:38] <gst-kaps> i am getting initramfs while booting ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:38] <Someguy77> for file sharing?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Sab : install karmic and you'll have loads less issues
[13:39] <sab> i had problem with karmic for dual boot
[13:39] <gst-kaps> Getting initramfs while booting ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Someguy77: there's a bluetooth manager for ubuntu. The word "use" is a little vague
[13:39] <sab> ActionParsnip, i had problem with karmic for dual boot;i was always facing grub failure problem ;then i installed lucid
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Sab: did you md5 test the karmic iso?
[13:39] <MrKeuner> hello, Karmic installation on my laptop does not suspend when the laptop is inactive for some minutes. How can I debug the problem?
[13:40] <rumpsy> gst-kaps: maybe system crashed
[13:40] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Superbest, sorry the sites like that won't open on mine , the proxy and stuff stops it all , I'm supposed to be a good boy :P
[13:40] <sab> ActionParsnip, what is md5 test?
[13:40] <Superbest> ah
[13:40] <MrKeuner> it suspends fine when I tell it to
[13:40] <g0r3_0f_g0d> ask arround
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | sab
[13:40] <gst-kaps> rumpsy:how to fix that ? i am able to boot in live cd
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Sab: you are using untested data to install, bad images make bad installs
[13:41] <jongbergs> !hi
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Sab: I'm guessing you never checked the cd for defects once booted to also..
[13:41] <rumpsy> !initramfs | gst-kaps
[13:41] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, are those screenshots?  "file Bild 120" just show as "data" i'm affraid
[13:42] <sab> ActionParsnip, i m new and i just installed,dont really know what to do
[13:42] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: ?
[13:42] <Superbest> ZykoticK9, yes, taken on a very old mac
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Sab: read the guide, its not a case of new, its the common sense to check the data you use before you use it
[13:42] <ZykoticK9> Superbest, they aren't an Image that linux understands
[13:42] <Someguy77> how do I connect to a bluetootht device, I open up bluetooth preferences and click on my phone and click on the bluetooth icon and nothing happens????
[13:43]  * g0r3_0f_g0d is enjoying direct tweeting from panel in Lucid
[13:43] <rumpsy> gst-kaps: once i got this prob, i reinstalled it, without checking forums, but you don't do reinstallation without search about this in forums
[13:43] <h00k> g0r3_0f_g0d: please use #ubuntu+1 for lucid discussion
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Someguy77: use the bluetooth app to scan for devices and you can set the pin, make sure your phone is discoverable. It will then pair
[13:43] <jongbergs> !initramfs
[13:44] <mcsmurf> hi, someone happens to know if customizing a 64 bit Ubuntu (alternate) CD with the UCK should work when using a 32 bit Ubuntu version?
[13:44] <zetheroo> hey, is Lucid Lynx ready? ... or not really?
[13:44] <gst-kaps> rumpsy:I did searched but isnt getting anything
[13:44] <h00k> !lucid | zetheroo
[13:44] <rumpsy> zetheroo: go for beta2
[13:44] <mcsmurf> I just tried this, but I got a bad md5sum error on the keyring package on installation
[13:44] <g0r3_0f_g0d> is the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade gonna bring my 9.04 straight up to lucid on the 29th then , I wonder
[13:44] <Someguy77> ok once the devices are paired then how do I use it?
[13:44] <rumpsy> g0r3_0f_g0d: i don't think so
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Mcsmurf: you can customise the 32bit iso in a 64bit ubuntu
[13:45] <g0r3_0f_g0d> i think the ext4fs might be an issue
[13:45] <mcsmurf> ActionParsnip: hm, I want it the other way round ;)
[13:45] <jongbergs> g0r3_0f_g0d: you need to upgrade to 9.10 before going into 10.04
[13:45] <uoobief> howto auto save IO of terminal as xx.log ?
[13:45] <gst-kaps> rumpsy:you suggets I reinstall ?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> G0r3_0f_g0d: you will need to upgrade to karmic first, then to lucid
[13:45] <g0r3_0f_g0d> hmm , time to think of a backup solution then, what about grub2 and ext4fs , is that not in a way of successfull upgrade
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Mcsmurf: it should be fine
[13:46] <mcsmurf> ActionParsnip: ok, I'll try again, maybe I had something else wrong..
[13:46] <rumpsy> gst-kaps: don't reinstall it without search for solution in ubuntu-forums
[13:46] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: I searched but no answers
[13:46] <gst-kaps> hence came here
[13:46] <geekphreak> g0r3_0f_g0d,  you can download the iso :)
[13:46] <dp_> I'm using lucid, and for the past 2 days, there've been no updates to packages via apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; is that right?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Uoobief: command > xx.log
[13:47] <geekphreak> dp_,  #ubuntu+1
[13:47] <dp_> geekphreak: thanks
[13:47] <geekphreak> np
[13:47] <g0r3_0f_g0d> Ill just do clean install , need them 8Tb drives now of azlon
[13:47] <g0r3_0f_g0d> I'll fix'em here :P
[13:48] <uoobief> e.... : ]
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> G0e3_0f_g0d: just clean install and restore user data from backup
[13:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> is that now default in the install process to detect extra ext fs drives with backup data on them or what
[13:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> coz it asks me sometimes on karmic about some import stuff
[13:48] <g0r3_0f_g0d> never paid attention
[13:49] <geekphreak> huh?
[13:49] <rumpsy> gst-kaps: if not go for reinstallation
[13:49] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: any idea how to restore grub , I mean I tried
[13:49] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: but unable to get
[13:49] <mrp> whats a good tagging program? for mp3s
[13:49] <gst-kaps> rumpsy: it work
[13:49] <znxtch> I know this isnt the place but I'm deperate and the Amarok channel doesn't know.  I'm using Ubuntu Karmic Koala.  Amarok 2.2.0 the EQ is greyed out.  Does anyone know how to fix this or why it is greyed out?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> G0r3_0f_g0d: you will need to restore data manually. If you have a seperate /home partition you can just format the / partition and reinstall but tell the installer to automount the home partition as /home
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: does it happen for all users?
[13:50] <znxtch> Umm, I don't know I'm the only user.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: you can ask about amarok here
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: you know what I'm going to say next don't you
[13:51] <znxtch> make another use and try it?
[13:51] <znxtch> *user
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Yep
[13:51] <znxtch> I don't know how to do that I suck.
[13:51] <znxtch> lol
[13:51] <znxtch> I'll google it.
[13:51] <h00k> !enter | znxtch
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | znxtch
[13:52] <znxtch> Also is it a common pratice to have a user account to test things like this>
[13:52]  * znxtch is new to Linux.
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: depends on the person who owns the system. I do but some don't
[13:52] <Nihil_Baxter> anybody familiar with solid state disks and their controller?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> !ot | nihil_baxter
[13:54] <znxtch> Okay I'm going to switch users and try
[13:54] <znxtch> I'll let you know
[13:54] <mrp> how do i add to a gnome panel if i can find any blank space to right click?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: if its ok then its your account, if its bad then its a bug
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Mrp: add -> new panel
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> mrp:  some times ya got to click real real real carefully.. :)
[13:55] <hppapotica> enough people in this channel? lolz
[13:55] <mrp> ActionParsnip: where?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> hppapotica:  its a slow day.. come in on release day
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Mrp: right click a blank bit of desktop
[13:55] <geekphreak> mrp,  you can reset your panel to default too
[13:55]  * ActionParsnip dreads release day
[13:55] <mrp> geekphreak: how :D
[13:56] <geekphreak> !resetpanels | mrp
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> The release should be released when it's ready not because a date and time are reached
[13:56] <znxtch> ActionParsnip
[13:56] <hppapotica> yeah i bet it would be intense
[13:56] <znxtch> Okay tried it on another account its still greyed out.,
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: ok then its the system and not profile based
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Znxtch: log a bug and/or find guides
[13:57] <bilalakhtar> in #gnome-media-player
[13:57] <BlaDe^> could anyone take a look at my kernel log i'm having issues with my wireless dropping after like 10minutes. the log is: http://pastebin.com/APF2pDmp
[13:57] <mrp> -thanks geekphreak
[13:57] <bilalakhtar> sorry sent that by mistake
[13:57] <geekphreak> mrp np
[13:57] <znxtch> How do I log bugs.
[13:58] <h00k> znxtch: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> !bug | znxtch
[13:58] <znxtch> Thank you.   Is there a bug logged?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Blade^: maybe there's a ppa with a later version
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Blade^: could be worth trying a lucid livecd just to see if its fixed there
[14:02] <david> hi guys
[14:03] <TheUros> hi .. someone know how i can view my home network in ubuntu in console? .. i connec to server with putty
[14:03] <Guest20823> I have slow loading ubuntu server
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Theuros: you can mount shared resources in command line
[14:04] <TheUros> how i do that ?
[14:04] <Guest20823> my apache server is loading slowly its pages how do i troubleshoot?
[14:04] <mgj> TheUros: you probably want to look into Samba and mounting shares
[14:05] <TheUros> isn't samba for sharing drives mounted on linux ? .. i mean .. i want to see all network with windows machines ?
[14:06] <TheUros> no i mean .. i want to see windows network
[14:06] <Hald> Howdy folks
[14:06] <BigRedS_> TheUros,  Samba's also for using Windows (SMB) networks with a *nix client
[14:06] <TheUros> aha thanx
[14:06] <BigRedS_> In the console it's smbclient you want to use
[14:07] <mgj> TheUros: http://www.google.dk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=mounting+windows+shares+in+linux+using+console
[14:09] <Hald> I use the gnome applet Invest every day. I love it except for one thing. I can't configure the default alternatives/options on the diagram windows. Anyone who could point me in the right direction, should I download the source code for the application and modify it?
[14:11] <queso> Is Jaunty's medibuntu package source no longer being supported?  Everytime I run apt-get update it gets stuck on it.
[14:11] <mgj> Hald: i think you'd have better response if you asked the authors of Invest instead of this general purpose channel
[14:12] <vadmeste> Hi. When I can't upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 using System/Administration/Update Manager... It doesn't check for new distro version..
[14:13] <FunkyWeasel> Good afternoon.  I am trying to set up eth1 as a local loopback interface on ip 192.168.xxx.yyy - but even though I've defined it in /etc/networks/interface and restarted networking the loopback is timing out.  I know this is possible because I have it running on  another machine.  But apart from editing /etc/networks/interfacing is there anything else I need to do?
[14:13] <Hald> mgj: Ok. I go and do that! Thanks
[14:14] <mgj> np. Good luck
[14:16] <sabator> What is the best software to setup a RAID5 with Ubuntu ? is it mdadm ?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:16] <Hariharakadan> vadmeste, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:16] <Hariharakadan> I hope that helps.
[14:17] <Zider> sabator: I don't know of any other way at all in linux to set up RAID5, so yeah..
[14:17] <urthmover> for some reason I can't seem to get "put monitor to sleep" after a certain time.  how do I go about fixing it?
[14:17] <urthmover> I'm on a Dell M6300 laptop
[14:17] <root_> hello all
[14:17] <urthmover> hello root_
[14:18] <root_> where are you from ?
[14:18] <urthmover> urth root_
[14:18] <mickster04> !ot
[14:18] <pookey> hi all - I'm missing teh toption to burn an iso to disk in my right click- anyone know what app is the defauly ubuntu one?
[14:19] <haavaros> Gnee problem: Record memory failure, Xnee failed due to bad data received from RECORD extension. Does anyone know what to do about this, except to despair?
[14:19] <mickster04> haavaros: sounds like a xnee problem to me?
[14:19] <Cornholio> pookey: brasero?
[14:20] <haavaros> mickster04: Yeah, gnee is just a frontend, so xnee problem is a more precise description. The problem is the same, though
[14:20] <urthmover> pookey: it is using Brasero through nautilus
[14:21] <TNA5000> Hi all, my time in ubuntu is worng, even tough I sent up to sync with an NTP server and my time zone is correct. Can anyone suggest something I can try?
[14:21] <micael> anyone that are good in x-server that can help me
[14:21] <csaba> what do you mean it's wrong?
[14:21] <pookey> thanks urthmover Cornholio , I'll insatll that.   used k3b in the past, but that means firing up a lot of KDE IIRC
[14:21] <Hariharakadan> !ask | micael
[14:21] <trijntje> how can I see how much of my tmpfs is in use?
[14:21] <csaba> df
[14:22] <TNA5000> csaba: well, it says it is now 3:19 am, and my timezone would make it 9:21 am
[14:22] <bartollil> hi all
[14:22] <micael> how do i change my x-server
[14:22] <csaba> then it's the time server's fault
[14:22] <trijntje> csaba: thats the best short awnser I ever had, thanks
[14:22] <mickster04> haavaros: well is ther enot a #xnee
[14:22] <csaba> change it to something else
[14:22] <micael> i am new in linux
[14:23] <TNA5000> k
[14:23] <mickster04> micael: what do u want to change?
[14:23] <mickster04> !details
[14:23] <micael> mickster84 my resolution
[14:23] <micael> mickster i only have 800x600
[14:24] <TNA5000> well, still wrong
[14:24] <csaba> micael:  and you want more?
[14:24] <sabator> Is it possible to setup RAID5 in mdadm with USB hard drive ? Need a procedure plz.  If the order of USB Hard Drive detecion change, what happen with the RAID ?
[14:24] <micael> i have a sis mirage 771 card and i have read someting about it
[14:24] <TNA5000> is there a way to force the server to sync and see if it actually is?
[14:24] <micael> csaba yes i like to have more
[14:24] <haavaros> mickster04: Oh, I wasn't aware of that, thank you
[14:24] <h00k> sabator: unless you have a RAID USB Controller, which I don't think exists, no
[14:25] <csaba> micael: System->Preferences->Display ?
[14:25] <mickster04> !tab | micael:
[14:25] <BluesKaj> sabator, I don't think raid is possible with a usb drive
[14:25] <micael> csaba that is only 800x600 and 640x480
[14:26] <mickster04> micael: check your driver is vesa (i think is=ts vesa)
[14:26] <cc4> hi.how can I place a command for sox to be executed on every boot?
[14:26] <csaba> micael: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[14:27] <TNA5000> csaba: changed time servers, but ubuntu still shows wrong time, same time as it did before. Maybe its not updating, is there a way to check if the sync is successfull?
[14:27] <sabator> How can we list harddrive connected to USB ? Can we see serial number of harddrive ?
[14:27] <micael> mickster it is vesa
[14:27] <micael> csaba nothing there
[14:27] <mickster04> micael: hmm..add the value manually then?
[14:27] <csaba> micael: sorry that worked for me, then I can't hlep
[14:27] <mickster04> micael: you should see a list of allowed values, just add more
[14:28] <micael> mickster i am sorry but i am new dont know how to do it
[14:28] <mickster04> micael: tab complete dude, and how do u know you are using vesa
[14:28] <Pici> sabator: see lsusb and sudo lshw
[14:28] <uoobief> howto auto record the all display of 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ?
[14:29] <csaba> TNA5000: well you can use a network sniffer but maybe that would be too drastic
[14:29] <csaba> which server do you use anyway?
[14:29] <mickster04> uoobief: have you tried sudo apt-get upgrade > text.txt
[14:29] <micael> mickster http://paste.ubuntu.com/419802/
[14:29] <TNA5000> kinda really drastic, I'll try a reboot first just to see if that works
[14:29] <mickster04> micael: !tab complete!
[14:30] <Pici> uoobief: look at the manpage for 'script'
[14:30] <csaba> TNA5000: yeah and set the time manually and see if it changes back to the wrong time
[14:30] <Guest29868> Hi all, can anyone hint me on how to configure a touch screen in ubuntu 10 (there was a nice config app in 9 under system and now its gone) the issue i have is up and down and left and right are confused if i drag my finger up and down it goes left and right and vice versa lol
[14:30] <micael> !tab complete!
[14:30] <TNA5000> csaba: good idea, I'll give that a shot
[14:30] <mickster04> !tab > micael
[14:31] <TNA5000> csaba: reboot did the trick
[14:31] <diadicic> Hello all, Doing some research on an in-house cloud.  Can anyone givel me an idea of what apps/services I could run on a cloud?
[14:31] <uoobief> i have tried 'command > a.txt'. but
[14:31] <mickster04> micael: what was that, try looking in /etc/X11/xorg.vonf
[14:32] <mickster04> xorg.conf*
[14:32] <csaba> oh ok :)
[14:32] <micael> mickster ok i will try
[14:32] <Pici> uoobief: if you run 'script output.txt' then run whatever commands you want, then type 'exit' everything that happened in between will be logged in output.txt
[14:32] <mickster04> micael TAG COMPLETE ALREADY!!!!
[14:32] <AzaToth_work> Is there reecently that the sata_sil24 modules has been removed?
[14:32] <csaba> lol
[14:33] <mickster04> TAB even
[14:33] <Pici> micael: Please press tab and complete the nick of the person that you are speaking to OR manually write out their entire name.  This makes it easier for people who are talking to you to know when you are replying.
[14:33] <gastly> hmm...I was wondering what's the difference between the packages 'linux-image-<version>-generic' and 'linux-image-<version>-386'?
[14:33] <Guest29868> Hi all, can anyone hint me on how to configure a touch screen in ubuntu 10 (there was a nice config app in 9 under system and now its gone) the issue i have is up and down and left and right are confused if i drag my finger up and down it goes left and right and vice versa lol
[14:35] <uoobief> i mean that if there are some interactive dialogs , could the dialog be displayed ? could they be recorded ?
[14:35] <micael> mickster04 is there more than /etc/x11/xorg.conf* that i have to write
[14:35] <james1892> hello
[14:35] <uoobief> thanks, i'll try
[14:35] <mickster04> Guest29868: you can proably install the deb file if it excists
[14:35] <james1892> where will my httpd.conf file be in ubuntu 8.04
[14:35] <james1892> ?
[14:35] <mickster04> micael: im not sure, i cant checl, there should be one there already
[14:35] <james1892> or how can i locate it
[14:35] <mickster04> james1892: thats an appache question i assume
[14:36] <Nightwolf> i read "how can i lolcat it" :)
[14:36] <erUSUL> gastly: 386 is for very old machines
[14:36] <Guest29868> mickster04, Is there a proper way to configure the touch screen like edit file and its done kind of thing?
[14:36] <james1892> mickster04 : whats the apache chat called? #apache?
[14:36] <gastly> erUSUL, oh, so I should go with a -generic one eh? I have a 32 bit processor
[14:36] <mickster04> Guest29868: iunno, alls i know is that if you could install the tool before you can n=know, just use the actualy deb file, i assume it exists...
[14:37] <Pici> james1892: On Ubuntu, we separate out the conf files, you'll find them in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[14:37] <mickster04> james1892: prolly, but the documentation is pretty clear, try /etc/apache/
[14:37] <erUSUL> gastly: yes
[14:37] <Guest29868> mickster04, Its part of a package that ive installed again but the icon isent put under system anymore
[14:37] <gastly> erUSUL, ahh ok thanks :)
[14:37] <erUSUL> !gneric | gastly if you want some historic references
[14:37] <erUSUL> !generic | gastly if you want some historic references
[14:37] <mickster04> Guest29868: well run it from terminal, remember tab complete is your friend
[14:38] <gastly> cool, I'll check that out
[14:38] <reefy> !lucid
[14:39] <reefy> yum :)
[14:39] <mickster04> !pm | uoobief
[14:39] <james1892> when i type /etc/apache2/httpd.conf i just get a file with 0 line
[14:39] <james1892> s
[14:39] <mickster04> james1892: try /var/apache2 ?
[14:39] <csaba> james1892: because all the config is spread out into many smaller files
[14:40] <mickster04> james, im pretty sure the documentation is pretty clear about this kinda thing
[14:40] <idlemind> is there a specific channel for 8.04.1 lts issues?
[14:40] <uoobief> ...i see
[14:40] <mickster04> james1892: what are you trying to do anyway
[14:40] <tomasz> james1892: config directives are in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[14:40] <csaba> james1892: try the /etc/apache2/sites-included/000-default, for example
[14:40] <james1892> I want to configure mod_deflate to compress css and js
[14:40] <h00k> idlemind: this is the channel for all supported releases, so you've found us
[14:41] <csaba> james1892: then copy from mods-available to mods-included
[14:41] <tomasz> james1892: httpd.conf is only a name for historical reason
[14:41] <idlemind> ty h00k
[14:41] <tomasz> james1892: modules needs to be linked in mods-enabled
[14:41] <idlemind> anyone know of a solid guide for custom compiling / installing the latest kernel source on ubuntu 8.04.1 lts
[14:41] <james1892> csaba: I have it allready compressing html
[14:42] <james1892> just need css and js too
[14:42] <Pici> james1892: Look at the appropriate conf file in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[14:42] <csaba> james1892: if you want to enable stuff, you need to copy or link files in mods-available to mods-enabled and then restart apache
[14:42] <csaba> and they will be automatically enabled then
[14:42] <Pici> csaba, james1892: a2emod should really be used for enabling apache2 modules.
[14:42] <csaba> apache is searching for mods-enabled/*
[14:42] <Pici> *a2enmod
[14:43] <csaba> what Pici said
[14:43] <JoshDreamland> is there a way to move the contents of all the directories in a directory to a new directory, without moving the directory names themselves?
[14:43] <james1892> where can i read up on this stuff?
[14:43] <csaba> !google a2emod
[14:43] <Ek|mu5> Hello all
[14:43] <mikhael> :D
[14:44] <csaba> the bot here sucks
[14:44] <JoshDreamland> for example, a/ contains folder b/ and c/. A separate folder, d/, is elsewhere. Can I move a/b/* and a/c/* to d/ without moving b/ and c/ and without knowing their names?
[14:44] <james1892> ive allready done the a2emod, i just need to make it compress css and js aswell as html
[14:44] <Pici> james1892: See https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[14:45] <h00k> csaba: the bot will not google for you
[14:45] <csaba> that's why it sucks
[14:45] <Pici> james1892: Okay, then if you look in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ you should have a .conf file for mod_deflate
[14:45] <Ek|mu5> I'm trying to install the latest totem from source, now configure raises an error about gstreamer-0.10 being an older version than what it requires. How do I go about resolving this? which repos should I point to? do I need to build these required packages myself?
[14:46] <james1892> this may be simple for you but i dont even know how to "then if you look in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/" what command do i use
[14:46] <e3hkl> how to install java in ubuntu 9.10
[14:46] <e3hkl> how to install java in ubuntu 9.10
[14:46] <ikonia> !java  | e3hkl
[14:46] <csaba> e3hkl: sudo aptitude search java
[14:47] <LzrdKing> crimsun: my sound is broken; can you help me?
[14:47] <joaopinto> cs278, sudo is not required to search for a package
[14:47] <joaopinto> ops, was for csaba
[14:47] <kp> hi how to join #django server from here
[14:47] <csaba> it can't hurt
[14:47] <ikonia> kp: /join #django
[14:47] <ikonia> kp: /join #freenode for irc advice/help
[14:47] <joaopinto> csaba, using sudo for something does not need it can always hurt :)
[14:48] <Pici> james1892: cd /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/       Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal for help using the shell
[14:48] <csaba> ikonia: it was probably a trap so people would type /join #django
[14:48] <ikonia> csaba: I don't see why
[14:48] <queso> Is Jaunty's medibuntu package source no longer being supported?  Everytime I run apt-get update it gets stuck on it.
[14:48] <joaopinto> Quan-Time, medibuntu is down for some days
[14:48] <ikonia> queso: their repos are down - they are not supported by ubuntu
[14:48] <Pici> queso: Their repository is currently down.
[14:48] <joaopinto> queso
[14:48] <james1892> pici: thanks and to anyone who helped:D
[14:48] <uoobief> Pici , thank u~
[14:49] <kp> ikonia, let me try freenode
[14:49] <queso> ikonia, Pici, joaopinto: okay, thank you. presumably they will be up again in the future?
[14:49] <joaopinto> queso, no idea, try their support channel :)
[14:49] <kp> kp: /join #django
[14:50] <csaba> I told you it's a trap
[14:50] <ikonia> csaba: it's not - please stop
[14:50] <ikonia> kp: you are getting advice in #freenode
[14:50] <ikonia> !register > kp
[14:51] <kp> ikonia, yes, ok i will. I am sorry I am disturbing
[14:53] <kunu_> hello
[14:53] <gcleric> howdy!
[14:53] <kunu_> shenme
[14:53] <kunu_> wo you zai shuohua ma
[14:53] <bartollil> /clear
[14:54] <kunu_> speak english?
[14:54] <uoobief> -_-kunu
[14:54] <kp>      /msg nickserv register stickler<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:54] <sybariten> no
[14:54] <markl_> in pidgin, whenever someone logs on/off, or sends a chat, I get a little popup on my screen.  is there any way to disable this?
[14:55] <gcleric> kunu_: well if you want me to understand you ...yes.  =)
[14:55] <csaba> markl_: off topic
[14:55] <kunu_> 说中文？
[14:55] <daniskami> markl_: yes there is, it's in the preferences but I can't be bothered to find it for you now
[14:56] <kunu_> my english is very bad ................
[14:56] <Pici> !zh | kunu_ perhaps this can help
[14:57] <atila> can anyone redirect me to some info about adding/replacing a networkcard/driver.. using nvidias on ubuntu 10.04(im a complete beginner @ linux)
[14:57] <Pici> atila : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[14:57] <kunu_> oh  thanks
[14:57] <atila> ty
[14:58] <BluesKaj> atila, first of all join #ubuntu+1, since you are running 10.04
[14:58] <kunu_> exit
[14:59] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:59] <daniskami> markl_: or rather, it's the libnotify plugin
[14:59] <markl_> daniskami: so this is in pidgin, or is it part of the ubuntu desktop?
[14:59] <markl_> or other
[14:59] <zero> Hallo,mans
[14:59] <daniskami> markl_: part of pidgin, it's a pidgin plugin
[14:59] <daniskami> markl_: but several applications use these notifications
[15:00] <markl_> ok cool ty
[15:01] <digitalfiz> i have a computer that just started shutting down when ubuntu tries to boot and it wont boot from a cd anymore either. the whole computer shuts off. I've switched out the memory so its not that can anyone help? a windows 7 install disk boots all the way to installation i didnt go further because i want to fix ubuntu
[15:03] <steelnwool> updating from 10.4 beta to release should be trivial right?
[15:03] <sipior> steelnwool: yes.
[15:04] <steelnwool> word. will just install beta then.
[15:04] <Sandertje_> oke, this is my 5th crash in two days. i'm constantly getting white screen (?) of death after a few hours running ubuntu 10.04. It nearly always occurs when I do something with Firefox (open a tab, maximalzing the screen, etc). This is getting VERY annoying. Linux should be stable, not crash every few hours.
[15:04] <gcleric> digitalfiz: how far along in the boot process does it make it?
[15:04] <digitalfiz> gcleric, it gets to the screen where the progress bar starts then shuts off
[15:05] <sipior> Sandertje_: yes, final releases of Linux should be stable. 10.04 is not a final release.
[15:05] <digitalfiz> on newer ubuntu its the center icon glowing part
[15:05] <sipior> Sandertje: you want stable, run a released version.
[15:06] <gcleric> digitalfiz: this is a hail mary pass stab at this is your video card a newer one?  if yes is it's power connector connected?
[15:06] <h00k> !lucid | Sandertje
[15:07] <digitalfiz> gcleric, its on board video i checked to make sure all otheer connectors are seated well i even cleaned the case out just encase but it just started doing this last night. opened firefox and bam it shut off
[15:07] <lalalol> guys help!!!!!!!!!!! when i click the letter after the c in the alphabet, it oesnt isplay it an pauses my vlc player, help!!!!!!!!!!
[15:08] <BigRedS_> Go preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts and set something else as play/pause
[15:08] <BigRedS_> lalalol, ^^^
[15:08] <BigRedS_> (and clean your keyboard. Your '!' key appears to be sticky)
[15:08] <isolat3dsh33p> hi guys, need help about flash player for amd64 system. Anyone know where can I get the plugin for firefox?
[15:08] <digitalfiz> lalalol, make sure if its a laptop of a keyboard with a fn key that the fn key isnt stuck down also
[15:08] <lalalol> BigRedS_, i closed vlc and opened it again and it works normal now, i can type the d again
[15:09] <BigRedS_> digitalfiz, flashplugin-nonfree ? (that's what it used to be...)
[15:09] <BigRedS_> lalalol, Hm. Odd....
[15:09] <mgj> I was trying to help a friend over the phone the other day. He wanted to make a backup of his ntfs drive. He got it mounted, he could copy files from it - awesome. However, he got "permission denied" when trying to copy any files from the "Documents and Settings" folder. This seems very, very strange to me, anyone have any ideas? And btw, sudo did not solve it
[15:09] <lalalol> yh BigRedS_ , its solved tho, phew :)
[15:09] <digitalfiz> BigRedS_, nothings been changed on this pc in weeks really just normal updates
[15:09] <BigRedS_> Er, isolat3dsh33p, see the thing I pointed digitalfiz at... ^^^
[15:09] <lalalol> windows would prob require a reboot :D
[15:09] <digitalfiz> BigRedS_, oh nm :P
[15:09] <BigRedS_> Windows would always quite like a reboot
[15:10] <jrr> sometimes you can cheat by logging out or just killing explorer
[15:11] <h00k> !windows
[15:11] <isolat3dsh33p> BigRedS_, I just signed in. Can't seem to view previous messages. :/
[15:11] <digitalfiz> mgj, sudo usually solves that very odd
[15:12] <hwilde> is there a channel for open office ?
[15:12] <sabator> Pici: Thanks
[15:12] <BigRedS_> isolat3dsh33p, flashplugin-nonfree ? (that's what it used to be...)
[15:13] <sabator> Can we use hdparm on USB Harddrive ?
[15:13] <isolat3dsh33p> BigRedS_, that thing suck. You can't pressed any youtube buttons if you installed. I solved this issue in my previous install. But I can't seem to remember how T_T
[15:14] <ScoobyDoo> When I try to format my external HD to Fat using mkfs.vfat, It says ''mkfs.vfat: /dev/sda1 contains a mounted file system.''
[15:14] <mgj> digitalfiz: very odd indeed
[15:15] <h00k> ScoobyDoo: so, unmount it
[15:15] <ScoobyDoo> It's defently unmounted
[15:15] <ScoobyDoo> sudo unmount /dev/sda1
[15:15] <ScoobyDoo> *umount
[15:15] <h00k> ScoobyDoo: do that to where it is mounted to, probably /media/diskdrivehere
[15:16] <Brimstones> sabator: sdparm --clear STANDBY -6 /dev/sda
[15:16] <Brimstones> sabator: Change /dev/sda...
[15:16] <ikonia> change a device file ?
[15:16] <ikonia> stopsign: you unmount a file system, not a device file
[15:17] <mgj> digitalfiz: very odd. Never experienced anything like it before
[15:18] <Chorupkata> whatup ?!
[15:18] <kieranc> sky
[15:18] <isolat3dsh33p> ikonia, do you know how to solve flash player for amd64? :)
[15:18] <Chorupkata> I wanted to ask .. how to optimize compiz?
[15:18] <ikonia> in what way solve it ?
[15:18] <BigRedS_> isolat3dsh33p, I was under the impression the version in the repos was now fixed? It's what I'm using (not right now, at home) with no issues
[15:18] <ikonia> Chorupkata: you don't need to optimise it, just use the correct/best supported graphics drivers
[15:18] <Chorupkata> flash player for x64 ..sux!
[15:19] <BigRedS_> Er, the Lucid package, though
[15:19] <ikonia> Chorupkata: it is mixed results for different people
[15:19] <iceroot> Chorupkata: the amd64 package is working much better
[15:19] <Chorupkata> ikonia, my graphic driver is loaded.. and still some windows take too much time to get focus..
[15:19] <iceroot> Chorupkata: but maybe you mean the amd64-32bit-wrapper called flashplugin-nonfree
[15:19] <ikonia> Chorupkata: what video card are you using ?
[15:19] <Chorupkata> nvidia.
[15:20] <ikonia> Chorupkata: and what model card
[15:20] <Zed`> !lts
[15:20] <isolat3dsh33p> BigRedS_, sorry. I forgot to tell that I'm using 10.04.
[15:21] <Chorupkata> ikonia, sorry my card was .. ati my other laptop was nvidia..
[15:21] <BigRedS_> Yeah, that's what I've got, and I'm fairly sure it's still flashplugin-nonfree. But I can't check, 'cause I'm ~15 miles from it at the minute...
[15:21] <ScoobyDoo> How do I mount an external HD, When I ' sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/Maxtor/ ' It mounts the my main drive that linux is on
[15:21] <Chorupkata> It's a laptop card...
[15:21] <mgj> isolat3dsh33p: you sure it is even possible to solve the issue? I remember something about adobe being very unwilling/slow to release a 64-bit flash plugin for linux for quite some time. Dunno if thats changed tho
[15:21] <ikonia> Chorupkata: the ati drivers are famously bad, as are the ati cards, you problem may be that simple
[15:22] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: you have to use the correct /dev/sdxx node
[15:22] <Chorupkata> ikonia, changing my video card is not a option :)
[15:22] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: How do I find out which one it is (mount) It isn't sda1
[15:22] <ikonia> Chorupkata: I appreciate that, but that is most probably the root of your issues (without more detailed investigation)
[15:22] <ThJ> I've got an Asus UX50V with a Nvidia G105M adapter that's listed as supported by Nvidia, but not getting detected: (EE) No devices detected.
[15:23] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: when you plug the disk in do « dmesg | tail »
[15:23] <ThJ> Works with plain nv driver, it seems, but I'd like 3D.
[15:23] <Chorupkata> ikonia, may be... i try many options.. and settings to speed up ..
[15:23] <Chorupkata> The main problem is when i try to call thunderbird .. .
[15:23] <Chorupkata> I take 2/3 sec to focus the window.
[15:23] <ThJ> I'm helping my girlfriend run Linux (her own idea) so any help would be appreciated. ;)
[15:23] <Exposure444> ytest
[15:23] <lalalol> WOOOW, my cpu is at 70% but not blowing a lot of air, and when its at 30% and a flash video plays, it blows air :S
[15:23] <Chorupkata> And many other windows .. take to much time.. to focus.
[15:23] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: appears to be sda2
[15:23] <isolat3dsh33p> mgj, I'm sure there a way to solve it. I solved it in my previous install which I accidentally deleted. I just forgot how to. I remember about some beta release for Adobe Flash 10 for amd64. But can't seem to find it. :(
[15:24] <Chorupkata> In Animations Focus/etc are set to 50ms
[15:24] <ikonia> Chorupkata: as I explaine it may just be a limiation of your card/driver combo
[15:24] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: Says I need to spefy a filesystem type to mount it
[15:25] <Kentrel> Is it possible to make a specific script file run automatically when I double click it, rather than giving them the option to run it or display it
[15:25] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: i dounb is in the same disk trhe system is in ? maybe is sdb ?
[15:25] <iammrtea08> morning
[15:25] <Chorupkata> ikonia, may be.. just searching for some solution.. anyway..
[15:25] <mgj> isolat3dsh33p: ah okay. Good luck then
[15:26] <isolat3dsh33p> mgj, haha. Thanks
[15:26] <ScoobyDoo> erSUL 'Tried sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/Maxtor '' I can see it's contents now
[15:26] <ScoobyDoo> Wow it's a 20GB drive, Not very good :-(
[15:26] <Brimstones> iammrtea08: mornin
[15:26] <Chorupkata> ikonia, btw... I'm very happy with my ubuntu installation on my laptop and work just fine.. and i loved some of the effect of the compiz that's why it's still working :)
[15:27] <mgj> My laptop is too old to handle compiz (or even gnome) =/
[15:27] <Chorupkata> mgj, huh :) what window manager are u using ?
[15:27] <mgj> fluxbox
[15:27] <mgj> its amazingly fast
[15:27] <Brimstones> mgj: Older then 300 MHz ?
[15:28] <mgj> nah
[15:28] <Brimstones> :)
[15:28] <mgj> 1ghz
[15:28] <mgj> but lacks ram..... so much
[15:28] <mgj> 256mb =(
[15:28] <Chorupkata> wow ..:P
[15:28] <Brimstones> mgj: Ah, the ram.. plus graphics card. Otherwise it should be semi ok :)
[15:28] <gooffy> nejaky Slovak tu je?
[15:28] <mgj> yeah probably
[15:29] <Juasjero> The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager  have not been installed correctly. Contact system administrator.
[15:29] <gooffy> resp. Slovenka?
[15:29] <Chorupkata> try, windowmaker.
[15:29] <mgj> i tried it a while back, didnt like it
[15:29] <emergion> Hello does anyone know of a good package I may be able to use to get a ruby development environment up?
[15:29] <Chorupkata> btw mgj, my editor take 256ram just to run ..
[15:29] <Chorupkata> :)
[15:29] <Brimstones> metacity doesnt require much ram either..
[15:29] <dekroning> i've turn my screensaver off and also the energy saver, but still after 20min of inactivity my monitor goes into standby mode, anyone that could let me know what else i can check? or verify? (i've checked settings on the monitor it self and they don't have a standby option)
[15:30] <Juasjero> Hi.  Anyone know how to repair this: The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager  have not been installed correctly. Contact system administrator ????????????????????????????
[15:30] <mgj> Chorupkata: imagine my pain when i have to use eclipse on the thing.... =/
[15:30] <Chorupkata> emergion, what u need ?
[15:30] <emergion> I am quite good with apache etc but I do not think its a good idea to configure everything from scratch every new release just so I can build some software
[15:30] <gooffy> SLOVAKIA???
[15:30] <erUSUL> !sv
[15:30] <erUSUL> !slv
[15:30] <emergion> Chorupkata, I would just like a web server with ruby happening out of the box
[15:30] <grifo74> i have problens in medibuntu repositori???????????????'''
[15:30] <Chorupkata> mgj, i use Komodo IDE 200ram~ in run time.
[15:30] <erUSUL> grifo74: known problem
[15:30] <Juasjero> Hi.  Anyone know how to repair this: The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager  have not been installed correctly. Contact system administrator ????????????????????????????
[15:30] <Chorupkata> emergion, sudo apt-get install ruby :)
[15:31] <Chorupkata> adn ruby on raills..
[15:31] <grifo74> don't actualize
[15:31] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Ask once and wait.
[15:31] <scunizi>  !repeat | Juasjero
[15:31] <emergion> Does ruby have its own server or something? I noticed some videos I watched he was starting something up?
[15:31] <Chorupkata> emergion, the ruby server is there.
[15:31] <genii> grifo74: If you check the /topic in #medibuntu channel it has a bug report in which some solutions are given
[15:31] <Juasjero> ok, Brimstones
[15:31] <erUSUL> Juasjero: reinstall the related packages ?
[15:31] <Juasjero> I have reinstalled
[15:31] <Chorupkata> emergion, yes the ruby web server for the rails is there.
[15:32] <Juasjero> I did "aptitude reinstall gnome-power-managment2
[15:32] <Brimstones> Juasjero: google "The configuration have not gnome power manager"
[15:32] <emergion> Chorupkata, hehe its funny I have read a few guides now none of them mention it? anyway ok ill try find it I thought that may be the case thank you very much
[15:32] <james1892> hwo do I edit my http headers?
[15:32] <Juasjero> I did, Brimstones
[15:32] <Juasjero> If not, I would not be here, Brimstones
[15:32] <Brimstones> checking
[15:32] <Brimstones> ok
[15:33] <Juasjero> Brimstones:, erUSUL, everywhere pleople has the same error, but I didnt saw any worth solution
[15:33] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Its turning up many results though
[15:33] <isolat3dsh33p> mgj, BigRedS_ ok, I found the solution. I get the flash plugin from here -> http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-ubuntu-64bit.html Works well so far ;)
[15:33] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Ok, ill try to find a reasonable solution
[15:34] <Kentrel> Hi, I'm running an opengl program through wine and it only loads in my second monitor. How do I make it apear in my main monitor
[15:34] <Juasjero> Brimstones: people suggest reinstall package or else do "dkpg reconfigure"
[15:34] <Juasjero> I did both without success
[15:34] <Brimstones> you can try to remove and reinstall the
[15:34] <Brimstones> offending package. ... ?
[15:34] <Juasjero> I did it too
[15:34] <Brimstones> rebooted ?
[15:35] <james1892> anybody know how I edit my http headers
[15:35] <Chorupkata> emergion, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[15:35] <Juasjero> rebooted, Brimstones
[15:35] <Juasjero> 3 times
[15:35] <Juasjero> at least
[15:35] <mgj> isolat3dsh33p: cool!
[15:35] <Chorupkata> Juasjero, what is the problem ?
[15:36] <isolat3dsh33p> mgj, indeed ^.~
[15:36] <Juasjero> Chorupkata: this is the problem:
[15:36] <Juasjero> Chorupkata: The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly
[15:36] <Brimstones> Juasjero: "chmod 777 /tmp"
[15:36] <Juasjero> I read that..
[15:36] <Brimstones> ok
[15:36] <Juasjero> Ill try it Brimstones
[15:37] <hwilde> is there a channel for open office ?
[15:37] <hwilde> is there a channel for open office ?
[15:37] <Juasjero> Brimstones: done and rebooting
[15:37] <Brimstones> ok
[15:37] <Pici> hwilde: #openoffice.org
[15:37] <Juasjero> I read that my error is related to some kind of update
[15:38] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, did u try the flash player..
[15:38] <Juasjero> didn't work, Brimstones
[15:38] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, yeah. Works well so far. :)
[15:38] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Some people seem to reinstall the entire desktop. Dont do that ;) .. Better to learn how to deal with problems + you learn things about the underlying technologies.
[15:38] <Brimstones> ok
[15:39] <geekphreak> hello all
[15:39] <LzrdKing> well i think i fixed my audio error and if i did fix it, it was something realllllly stupid :P
[15:39] <Juasjero> Brimstones: perhaps this could work?
[15:39] <Juasjero> Brimstones: http://infoqueue.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/fix-for-gnome-power-manager-problem-in-fedora/
[15:39] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p, .. i'm not talking about speed but for functionality .. cause main sometime don't get the click events.. for example, the flash player of youtube.. is almost every time not working.
[15:40] <Juasjero> Brimstones: it says... "Then i deleted( use rm command to delete ) those bulkies to freeup the memory space.Then i restarted( shutdown -r 0) the system."
[15:40] <Brimstones> Juasjero: w8
[15:40] <Juasjero> ok
[15:40] <Guest12112> now fix kernel crash ?
[15:40] <kersurk> Hi
[15:41] <kersurk> Is tun already part of the kernel in Ubuntu?
[15:41] <isolat3dsh33p> Chorupkata, it doesn't fail on me so far. Functionality works.
[15:41] <kersurk> I need it to set up Hamachi.
[15:41] <CrOnOs__> can someone tell me where the list of modules that load on boot time are stored is not etc/modules i check
[15:41] <kersurk> running sudo modprobe tun reports: FATAL: Module tun not found.
[15:42] <Brimstones> Juasjero: priv ? ... id like to debug this if possible
[15:42] <Juasjero> Brimstones: some people suggest to edit Menu.lst in order to deactivate  the ACPI
[15:42] <Brimstones> Juasjero: Nooo :)
[15:43] <james1892> anybody know how I can edit my http/1.1?
[15:43] <Chorupkata> isolat3dsh33p,  the link for the flashplayer 10 / 64bit on the tutorial that u posted... is not working ?from where u downloaded the tar.gz package?
[15:44] <Glowball> The hfsplus package "allows access to HFS+ volumes", does that include both reading and writing?
[15:44] <Pici> james1892: Maybe the apache support channel would be more appropriate: #httpd
[15:44] <digitalfiz> ok so i even changed out the power supply and ubuntu still shuts down at boot. ive tried new memory, new psu and versions 9.10(32bit and 64bit and 10.04 and all do the same thing
[15:44] <fleebailey33> anyone try booting ubuntu on the new macbook pro?
[15:45] <erUSUL> Glowball: writting is more than experimental afaik ( and no posible if the volume is journaled which is the norm nowadays)
[15:45] <Glowball> erUSUL: Mkay. But reading is safe?