[00:06] <dan0x45> hi
[02:21] <chocolatemousse> Hey, does anyone know (yet) why this is happening? http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=99090&start=30    &&    http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=90821
[02:22] <chocolatemousse> I've not tried another window manager or god forbid Unity yet, but perhaps it is time to accept that Kwin+Nvidia just sucks? I've always had perf problems as is.
[02:23] <roberth1990> any tip for a good guide on upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10?
[02:23] <chocolatemousse> Although I do think it is a programming error, restarting kwin after the hangup occurs usually fixes the cpu usage issue
[02:23] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, don't do it yet
[02:23] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, wait for the official non-beta to come out if you have to ask that question
[02:24] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, unless you like hurt
[02:24] <roberth1990> chocolatemousse: I like hurt
[02:25] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, good luck then, not gonna help though
[02:25] <roberth1990> chocolatemousse: I am not able to boot 13.10 beta1 image to install it cleanly
[02:25] <roberth1990> the boot process just brings me to busybox
[02:25] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, I got 20 problems and 13.10 ain't one of them ;)
[02:26] <roberth1990> well as it is I am not comfortable running 13.04 with tons of backports
[02:26] <roberth1990> I need a newer kernel version
[02:27] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, if its all the same to you, I'm going to ignore you, unless you know something about my qt kwin perf problem. :)
[02:27] <roberth1990> chocolatemousse: elaborate
[02:28] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, basically kwin hangs a lot, especially with graphics intensive applications
[02:28] <chocolatemousse> Its been known for about year now, kwin+nvidia == really bad
[02:28] <chocolatemousse> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=90821
[02:29] <chocolatemousse> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=99090&start=30
[02:29] <chocolatemousse> Example of it hanging: justareflektor.com
[02:29] <chocolatemousse> fps crawls to about 3-4fps pretty quickly
[02:29] <roberth1990> chocolatemousse: you run 13.04?
[02:29] <chocolatemousse> 12.04
[02:29] <roberth1990> kde version?
[02:30] <chocolatemousse> LTS user
[02:30] <chocolatemousse> yup
[02:30] <chocolatemousse> I'm in #kubuntu after all
[02:30] <roberth1990> i mean which kde version
[02:30] <chocolatemousse> oh mm one sec (think its the latest)
[02:30] <roberth1990> asking if you are running kde her would be very unlogical
[02:30] <roberth1990> *here
[02:31] <chocolatemousse> 4.11
[02:31] <roberth1990> oh hm
[02:31] <roberth1990> which version of the gfx driver are you using?
[02:31] <roberth1990> and do you have 4,11,1?
[02:31] <chocolatemousse> 173.14.28-0ubuntu1
[02:32] <chocolatemousse> is the nvidia driver
[02:32] <roberth1990> ouch
[02:32] <roberth1990> I suspect your old nvidia driver version that may be the issue
[02:32] <chocolatemousse> 4.11.0
[02:33] <chocolatemousse> hmm maybe
[02:33] <roberth1990> Ive had my fair share of issues with nvidia gfx untill I got the latest version
[02:33] <roberth1990> update to 4.11.1
[02:33] <chocolatemousse> there are a couple newer versions installed, not sure why older ones would have installed themselves
[02:33] <roberth1990> there are a lot of bug fixes for kwin there
[02:33] <roberth1990> well make you sure you run latest version of nvidia-gfx and kde
[02:34] <roberth1990> update, reboot, and report
[02:34] <chocolatemousse> I"m sorry installed in the repos, not actually installed in my machine, I meant
[02:34] <roberth1990> then install the newest version if your card supports it
[02:35] <chocolatemousse> Eeks, why on earth is my driver so old >_< 319.49 is the latest version for me, no wonder it sucks so badly. Just rather odd because I thought I installed that. Thanks for some common sense roberth1990 :)
[02:36] <roberth1990> chocolatemousse: because you use lts?
[02:36] <roberth1990> which gfx do you have exactly?
[02:36] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, relatively old, but the 9M series
[02:36] <chocolatemousse> if you meant the card
[02:36] <roberth1990> ouch
[02:36] <chocolatemousse> Hey it works ok
[02:36] <roberth1990> thats why you have such an old driver version
[02:36] <chocolatemousse> But it works better in Windows where the real driver is installed ;)
[02:37] <roberth1990> newer versions doesnt support your card
[02:37] <chocolatemousse> Nvidia's site knows the correct version
[02:37] <chocolatemousse> well at least their dropdown boxes on their site say it does
[02:37] <roberth1990> you use a legacy version of the driver
[02:37] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, yes, but its still 200 versions out of date
[02:37] <roberth1990> and the new wont work with your card
[02:38] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, we'll see about that
[02:38] <roberth1990> chocolatemousse: well see if there is any newer is versions that also supports your card
[02:38] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, that's what I"m saying, the new version does support my card
[02:38] <chocolatemousse> According to Nvidia's website
[02:38] <roberth1990> nvidia has the current one, and multiple legacy ones
[02:38] <chocolatemousse> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[02:38] <roberth1990> yes
[02:39] <chocolatemousse> Geforce 9m, linux 64 bit
[02:39] <roberth1990> so your old hardware is porbably the problem
[02:39] <chocolatemousse> run the search, 319.49
[02:39] <chocolatemousse> And actually I lied I have 304 installed, so not as old as I though
[02:39] <chocolatemousse> but still out of date
[02:40] <roberth1990> so what do you have installed then?
[02:40] <chocolatemousse> 173 modaliases is installed
[02:40] <chocolatemousse> whatever that is
[02:41] <chocolatemousse> Anyhow 12.04 has nothing to do with the graphics card, unless they build linux against the nvidia drivers (I doubt it)
[02:41] <roberth1990> according to nvidia.com
[02:41] <roberth1990> 319.49 should work with your card
[02:42] <roberth1990> install the new one, it will remove the old one
[02:42] <chocolatemousse> :P I know, just downloaded it, installing as we speak
[02:42] <roberth1990> you are using apt?
[02:42] <roberth1990> chocolatemousse: ?
[02:42] <chocolatemousse> yes
[02:43] <chocolatemousse> drivers haven't shown up in the updates though
[02:43] <chocolatemousse> Ubuntu is a bit slow at things sometiems
[02:43] <chocolatemousse> Too busy makingphones I imagine
[02:44] <chocolatemousse> Anyhow gotta bounce, need to close X to install these
[02:44] <roberth1990> thats because they are named something different probably
[02:44] <chocolatemousse> later
[02:44] <chocolatemousse> roberth1990, no, nothing named anything is in my updates :P
[02:44] <chocolatemousse> except libreoffice, which is definitely not nvidia
[02:44] <roberth1990> chocolatemousse: then
[02:45] <roberth1990> just install the newest one, it will uninstall the old one and reboot
[02:45] <chocolatemousse> like I said, gotta bounce, good luck with your 13.10
[02:45] <roberth1990> okay, you too
[06:33] <kenami> .tra es en una relajante taza de café con leche en la plaza mayor
[06:33] <kenami> .tra
[07:17] <rohan> hi .. does anyone know how to enable hybrid suspend (suspend2both) on kubuntu 13.04?
[07:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:44] <nick87720z> hi people. Did anyone get rekonq or konqueror+webkit using custom css style? I tried one saved from userstyles, but it doesn't work. For now i could get it for qupzilla using greasemonkey.
[08:42] <AciD`> is 4.11.1 coming to kubuntu (even via ppa) ?
[08:43] <lordievader> AciD`: Eventually it will come, got it running here ;)
[08:43] <lordievader> Still in testing phase I believe.
[08:43] <AciD`> ok :)
[08:43] <AciD`> I'm eager to get all those nasty bugs solved :)
[08:44] <lordievader> Are you on Raring?
[08:58] <Moscherkobold> hello everyone
[08:59] <Moscherkobold> after an update to 13.04 i get a small window in the top left corner of my screen which tells me "Could not start D-Bus, Can you all qdbus?"
[08:59] <Moscherkobold> the remaining screen is black, and this appears after i log in
[08:59] <Moscherkobold> if I click "OK" the log in screen appears again
[09:14] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[09:26] <ssanchozz> fff
[10:54] <cortexA9> hello
[10:54] <cortexA9> Congrats for the daily of kubuntu.
[10:59] <cortexA9> testing it right now
[10:59] <cortexA9> very good.
[10:59] <cortexA9> oh i had only a problem with the network manager
[10:59] <cortexA9> i do manually make a new connection
[10:59] <cortexA9> becausse it doesnt work
[10:59] <FloodBotK1> cortexA9: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:59] <cortexA9> clicked on my connection
[11:12] <lorenzolopezcr> HEllo
[11:12] <lordievader> Hey lorenzolopezcr
[11:12] <lorenzolopezcr> I have some problems with running the driver update on kubuntu 12.10
[11:12] <lorenzolopezcr> err 13.10
[11:13] <cortexA9> oh
[11:13] <cortexA9> what driver
[11:13] <lorenzolopezcr> I click on it and nothing happens. I see the icon on the tasbar and then it just closes :*(
[11:13] <lorenzolopezcr> I think its just the nvidia one that I need.  I wanted to not risk breaking anything so I thought I would ask here
[11:14] <lordievader> lorenzolopezcr: Is that the jockey you are talking about?
[11:14] <lorenzolopezcr> I don't know it just says "additional Drivers"
[11:15] <lorenzolopezcr> I have always clicked on that. I had 13.04 running before but had o uninstall it cause I needed adobe apps
[11:15] <lordievader> lorenzolopezcr: Yes that is the jockey. In there if you say activate it doesn't do anything?
[11:15] <lorenzolopezcr> I decided to check out the beta
[11:15] <lorenzolopezcr> Correct.
[11:15] <lorenzolopezcr> I  see the title in the taskbar, then it just closes
[11:16] <lordievader> lorenzolopezcr: Tried it myself just now, get the same behaviour. You could try the text-based version. Do you have experience with the terminal?
[11:17] <lorenzolopezcr> Not all that much
[11:17] <lorenzolopezcr> but
[11:17] <lorenzolopezcr> I am very good at following directions.
[11:18] <lordievader> lorenzolopezcr: Hmm seems that the text based version has the same problem :(
[11:18] <lordievader> lorenzolopezcr: Do you know what video card you have?
[11:18] <lorenzolopezcr> nvidia geforce 6200
[12:26] <EvilRoey> hi
[12:26] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  I tried to upgrade to the latest KDE and now I get this before KDE fails to start: Could not start D-Bus. Can you Call qdbus?
[12:28] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  interesting. THe qdbus command was just not installed.
[12:28] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  I apt-got installed qdbus
[12:28] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  will be back later
[12:35] <a635247> sziasztok
[12:36] <a635247> azt szeretném megkérdezni, hogy hogyan lehet a monitoromat felismeretetni a kubuntuval: Most vettem és az előzőnél telepítés után kiírta, hogy milyen tipusú monitor!
[12:36] <a635247> Ez sokkal újabb, mint az előző, de még is csak annyit ír ki, hogy VGA1!
[12:37] <a635247> Hi, I want to ask how to get my monitor to be recognized by Kubuntu: Just bought and prints the previous one, after installation, the type of monitor!
[12:37] <a635247> This is much higher than the previous one, but I can only put out so much that VGA1!
[12:38] <a635247> thx
[12:40] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  that fixed it.
[12:40] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  and I've seen others with this problem with Kubuntu 13.04.
[12:40] <EvilRoey> where apparently they lack qdbus as well
[12:41] <a635247> i don't understand
[12:45] <Streward> hey guys
[12:45] <Streward> somebody knows why?
[12:45] <agile_> Hi
[12:46] <Streward> usr/bin/x (seems to be my graphic) is 70% cpu usage?
[12:46] <agile_> I just installed kde on my ubuntu machine and now I am not able to connect to the internet.
[12:46] <agile_> please help me
[12:49] <Graf_Westerholt> agile_, you need an internet provider to access the Internet.
[12:53] <agile_> Graf_Westerholt, How to get it?
[12:53] <agile_> sorry I serched on the google but it didnt gave me a proper solution, and I am new to both ubuntu and kubuntu
[12:53] <agile_> *searched
[12:55] <Graf_Westerholt> agile_, you go to a shop of an internet provider and do a contract.
[12:56] <Pici> They're clearly on the internet right now.
[13:06] <agile_> but I am able to connect to internet when i try it from ubuntu but when I shift to kubuntu its not allowing me to access internet
[13:08] <Moscherkobold> agile_: how do you connect to your homenetwork? LAN? WLAN?
[13:09] <agile_> LAN
[13:09] <agile_> just a min
[13:11] <Moscherkobold> agile_: is connection established correctly? you should see this in boddom right corner of your screen
[13:11] <Moscherkobold> network control modul
[13:11] <agile_> ok let me check
[13:49] <Authority> I've noticed that with the most recent versions of KDE (at least 4.11 and 4.11.1, maybe 4.10), the window placement algorithm and "snap to" functions ignore the window decorations and put the window (rather than the window frame) on the edge of the screen
[14:01] <Authority> Ah, a change in snapping behavior for 4.11: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323504
[14:03] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:07] <cortexA9> morning BluesKaj
[14:08] <cortexA9> can you confirm if there is a bug in the network manager of kde 4.11.1 ?
[14:08] <cortexA9> i couldn't connect to my network.
[14:09] <cortexA9> i need to add manually the connection
[14:09] <cortexA9> *needed
[14:10] <cortexA9> i mean in the daily..
[14:33] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  hai
[14:34] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  another issue I seem to have, at least this time, is that locking the screen puts my computer into a state where I can see the mouse pointer moving around, but the screen is all black
[14:34] <EvilRoey> and I do not see any dialog box for where I can put in a password.
[14:45] <petete> cortexA9: I just click on the disable networks button and then reenable it again to fix it
[14:45] <cortexA9> ok thanks petete
[14:46] <petete> but it's annoying that it breaks from time to time
[14:46] <petete> np
[14:50] <GSport> maybe one day ubuntu will come close to pclinuxOS
[15:16] <smartboyhw> petete, good news for you: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/09/10/kde-connect-kubuntu
[15:39] <petete> i just compiled it but the notifications doesn't work :(
[15:40] <GSport> prism
[15:41] <petete> i'm using cyanogen based on android 4.2, but it says it's not supported
[15:43] <petete> hmm, you have to patch solid to make the battery work
[15:44] <petete> too much work for me, haha
[15:44] <The_Jag> Hi, I have a problem creating a xib file
[15:44] <The_Jag> how do I set file's owner and view controller outlets?
[15:45] <The_Jag> the error I get is: A view can only be associated with at most one view controller at a time! View <UIView: 0xa1b56f0; frame = (0 0; 768 1024); autoresize = W+H; layer = <CALayer: 0xa1b5550>> is associated with <DeltaViewController: 0xa1b55b0>. Clear this association before associating this view with <DeltaViewController: 0xa1b4090>.
[15:45] <The_Jag> I'm at a loss
[15:47] <The_Jag> oooops wrong room
[16:19] <murali>  plz help. how to mount my galaxy nexus mobile in ubuntu
[16:24] <rberg> ugg mtp is a huge mess..  I have had the best luck with go-mtpfs
[16:47] <draha> ciao
[16:47] <draha> !list
[16:47] <BluesKaj> !it | draha
[17:52] <deximat> Anyone using kubuntu with Thinkpad T430S?
[18:05] <shrinivasan> deximat: i use with t410
[18:06] <deximat> got problems with dok?
[18:06] <deximat> dock
[18:06] <shrinivasan> deximat: what is dock?
[18:07] <shrinivasan> usb docking station for monitor?
[18:07] <deximat> docking station yeah, not really just usb... monitors and everything else
[18:08] <deximat> I have problems with monitors.
[18:09] <shrinivasan> hmmm
[18:09] <shrinivasan> what problem you have?
[18:10] <deximat> without dock ok, when turned on and I put it on dock it works ok, both monitors, but when I reboot (still on dock) none of monitors work.
[18:10] <deximat> I have to hard reboot
[18:48] <shrinivasan> deximat: weired issued
[18:48] <shrinivasan> display driver issue
[18:48] <shrinivasan> i dont know any clue on this
[18:48] <deximat> oki doi
[18:48] <deximat> doki*
[19:01] <EvilRoey> weird issue*
[19:33] <keithzg> Man, I miss it when Konqueror was under active development. There are options in it that I can't find in literally any othe browser.
[19:33] <lordievader> keithzg: Become the lead-dev :)
[19:34] <keithzg> lordievader: Hah! I don't even know C++, pathetically.
[19:34] <lordievader> Starts with good ambition :)
[23:07] <johnflux> Hi.  I'm hitting a circular deadlock, but I'm new to kernel programming.  Anyone want to confirm it with me? :-)
[23:16] <valorie> johnflux: you might try #ubuntu-kernel where the experts live
[23:18] <johnflux> valorie: thanks
[23:19] <valorie> good luck!
[23:19] <valorie> always great to see people working on the kernel itself


[00:04] <manchicken> I just ran three miles in the rain... I'm cold and wet.
[00:04] <manchicken> And for some reason I'm thinking of ice cream. And automated testing.
[00:04] <manchicken> shadeslayer: You around?
[00:06]  * ScottK had to walk about a mile in new leather shoes today.
[00:06] <ScottK> got blisters on the way there.
[00:06] <ScottK> Decided to carry my shoes on the way back.
[00:06] <manchicken> Yuck.
[00:06] <ScottK> So now I have blisters and the soles of my feet are burned.
[00:07] <ScottK> Fun day.
[00:07] <manchicken> Weaksauce.
[00:07] <manchicken> Where are you?
[00:07] <ScottK> I was in Washington, DC today.
[00:07] <manchicken> Gotcha.
[00:07] <ScottK> Hottest day of the year so far.
[00:07] <manchicken> I wish Garmin supported GNU/Linux.
[00:07] <manchicken> I don't want to boot into win8 to upload my run data.
[00:07] <ScottK> Of course what I call "hottest day of the year", shadeslayer probably calls "winter".
[00:08] <manchicken> Heh
[00:08] <yofel> here it's 11°C outside right now (2AM), last week we had 38. Not good for your health -.-
[00:09] <manchicken> I've got 21°C right now
[00:09] <manchicken> That's after the rain. It dropped 10°C easily in the rain.
[00:10] <ScottK> We tot to 33 today.
[00:10] <yofel> same climate, huh.
[00:10] <ScottK> tot/got
[00:17] <manchicken> I'd love to start looking at this testing stuff that shadeslayer mentioned earlier, but I don't know what all we're doing with it.
[02:39] <ahoneybun> hey valorie are you editing the getting involved page for the forums?
[02:41] <valorie> no, I didn't know if that stuff had been deliberately removed, or just overlooked
[02:41] <ahoneybun> overlooked
[02:41] <valorie> ok
[02:41] <ahoneybun> it says that you are editing
[02:41] <valorie> I'm editing it, so I'll think about a way to add that back
[02:41] <ScottK> Riddell: I think amor and ktux (like many other of the packages) the -dbg should depend on the package.
[02:41] <valorie> I added a list at one point, but it's been removed
[02:43] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:45] <ahoneybun> I was going to fix that but it says your editing or were
[02:50] <valorie> if you have the links at hand, feel free
[02:50] <valorie> I just fixed some typo or something
[02:54] <ahoneybun> I'm going to relax want watch netflix, I'll work on that later
[02:56] <valorie> ok
[05:03] <ScottK> I've started a kde-workspace build on the reconstituted armhf boxes to work on the FTBFS.
[06:03] <soee> good morning
[06:06] <valorie> did you get your install all fixed, soee?
[06:11] <soee> valorie, i ended up with fresh install
[06:11] <valorie> easier, for sure
[06:12] <valorie> too bad it couldn't be fix00red though
[06:14] <soee> valorie, probably it could be but i would have to play with chroot etc. and as i needed my machine for my work i had to do it quickly
[06:15] <valorie> I see
[06:47] <ScottK> Just uploaded an FTBFS fix for kde-workspace.
[06:47] <ScottK> Going to bed.
[07:04] <ScottK> Would someone with KDE git access please commit http://launchpadlibrarian.net/143447462/kde-workspace_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu3_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu4.diff.gz upstream.
[07:52] <smartboyhw> Oh, so the Kubuntu images still isn't in the ISO QA Tracker?
[07:53] <smartboyhw> Riddell, and libkscreen still doesn't work?
[07:54] <smartboyhw> Em, it did work out...
[07:54] <smartboyhw> According to PPA at least, can someone please review? (And help me to change the bug please, it's stil wrong:P)
[08:15] <agateau> ScottK: committed
[08:56] <smartboyhw> BTW, can anyone make out what happened to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066223 ?
[08:56] <smartboyhw> I got some tester pinging about that.
[09:28] <smartboyhw> Riddell, anytime to check libkscreen for me?
[09:39] <yofel> if not I can do it after lunch -> ~1h
[09:54] <Quintasan> \o
[10:10] <ScottK> agateau: Thanks.
[10:44] <Tonio> hi there
[10:45] <Tonio> long...... long time no see ;)
[10:45] <Tonio> Riddell
[10:45] <Tonio> hey ;)
[10:45] <Tonio> agateau : hi too ;)
[10:49] <soee> bonjour
[10:49] <yofel> hi Tonio
[10:53] <Riddell> bonjour Tonio, ca va?
[10:53] <Tonio> fine and you ?
[10:53] <Tonio> long time no see my friend...
[10:54] <Tonio> how about the news ? still full time on kubuntu ?
[10:54] <Riddell> oui, je suis tres bien
[10:54] <yofel> Riddell, smartboyhw: I'm looking at libkscreen now
[10:54] <Tonio> I left computing on my side
[10:54] <Riddell> yep, it's not done yet, lots to be done
[10:54] <Tonio> not only kubuntu, but everything
[10:54] <Riddell> Tonio: oh?  did you take up wine making?
[10:54] <Tonio> I'm now an e-cig vendor ;)
[10:54] <Riddell> jings
[10:54] <Tonio> www.espacevap.com that's the web shop
[10:55] <Tonio> I got a SAAS type of shop to avoid commputing completly ;)
[10:55] <Tonio> udge difference in my life ;)
[10:56]  * ScottK waves to Tonio
[10:56] <Tonio> hey ScottK
[10:56] <Tonio> it was time for me to change an go for another life ;)
[10:56] <Tonio> I always promissed myself to left computing before 45...
[10:56] <Tonio> I just went 10 years sooner than expected
[10:57] <Tonio> how about you ScottK
[10:57] <Tonio> ?
[10:57] <Riddell> comment ca va le bairn?
[10:59] <ScottK> Riddell: kde-workspace on armhf is now into shlibdeps, so I suspect there's a good chance it will succeed.  You should decide if you want to unblock kde-workspace for the Alpha or not.  I'll be offline ~all day, so it's up to you.
[10:59] <Tonio> Riddell
[10:59] <Riddell> hmm thought I'd done that already
[10:59] <Tonio> good point : I really quit smoking this time ;)
[11:00] <Tonio> Riddell what is the "bairn" ? don't know that word...
[11:00] <Riddell> Tonio: ecossais pour un bébé
[11:00] <Tonio> ah ;)
[11:01] <Tonio> she's the cutest, let me show you
[11:01] <Tonio> http://photos.toniox.org/upload/2013/03/27/pwg_high/20130327125324-40751a16.jpg
[11:02] <smartboyhw> yofel, sure:)
[11:02] <Tonio> http://photos.toniox.org/upload/2013/04/11/pwg_high/20130411130441-71018f46.jpg
[11:02] <Tonio> she's got a little scar on those photos, which disapeared since...
[11:02] <yofel> smartboyhw: I rewrote your changelog a bit. a) Changelog entries are never past-tense. b) rather use proper english than sticking to keywords -> "Make libkscreen1 break/replace libkscreen0", sounds much better than "Make libkscreen1 breaks/replaces libkscreen0"
[11:03] <yofel> smartboyhw: here's the new one: http://paste.kde.org/783116
[11:03] <Tonio> Riddell she's really amazing, but well.... every parent would say this ;)
[11:03] <Tonio> Riddell how about you, when are you gonna be a father, is that planned ?
[11:03] <smartboyhw> yofel, ACK. (Meh, I do score good in Engilsh, but I didn't thought of tenses in changelogs:P)
[11:03] <Riddell> Tonio: ooh la la
 unless something goes very very wrong never
[11:04] <yofel> smartboyhw: think of it as action items "do a, add x to y, modify z"
[11:04] <Riddell> Tonio: I think you scared her :)
[11:04] <smartboyhw> yofel, check.
[11:04] <smartboyhw> :)
[11:04] <Tonio> Riddell :)
[11:05] <ScottK> Tonio: Still keeping busy.  $work is keeping me more offline recently.  In fact, I have to go now.
[11:05] <ScottK> Riddell: You did unblock it.
[11:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you still haven't respinned the Kubuntu builds to make it appear on Alpha 1 page?
[11:05] <yofel> now to actually try to build it...
[11:05] <Riddell> Tonio: question, Nim here thinks in France there is a list of names that you have to pick from to name your child, I don't think that's true of France is it?
[11:05] <ScottK> So once it is done building, it should be good.
[11:06] <Tonio> ScottK ok I'll be online toonight so we can discuss a bit ;)
[11:06] <yofel> smartboyhw: I think we still don't have 4.11 together in the archive
[11:06] <Tonio> Riddell nope that's not true
[11:06] <smartboyhw> yofel, 4.11 what?
[11:06] <yofel> smartboyhw: 4.10.80 package for saucy
[11:06] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah.
[11:06] <yofel> if you spin images now you'll get a mess
[11:06] <Tonio> but if your name reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally doesn't seem appropriate, government can  refuse
[11:06] <smartboyhw> Thanks to armhf:P
[11:06] <yofel> yeah :/
[11:06] <Tonio> aka : you can't name your child "analsex" for example
[11:07] <smartboyhw> Guys, http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/kubuntu-buildstatus.htm
[11:07] <Tonio> Riddell but appart from that, you can use a flower name if you want ;)
[11:07] <smartboyhw> yofel, we might not have time for Alpha 1 then.
[11:07] <smartboyhw> It's Wednesday already:P
[11:08] <ScottK> Tonio: Should be.
[11:08] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I think that script is a bit out of date, I want to set it up on qa.kubuntu.co.uk but that needs to work out postgresql first
[11:08] <smartboyhw> Riddell, oh.
[11:08] <ScottK> Riddell: Actually the version in the unblock needed updating.  I fixed it.
[11:08] <yofel> Riddell: it's not really out of date, but IIRC it can't track -proposed. That would be nice to have
[11:09] <Riddell> yofel: right that's the one
[11:09] <ScottK> smartboyhw: Not thanks to armhf.  Thanks to gcc-4.8.  That's where the bug is.
[11:09] <Riddell> we still need kde-baseapps and kde-workspace and preferably rekonq in the archive
[11:09] <smartboyhw> ScottK, ah.
[11:12]  * Riddell adds force for kde-baseapps/4:4.10.80-0ubuntu4
[11:12] <Riddell> now what is going on with kdepim?
[11:12] <ScottK> Riddell: It needs force-autopkgtest - I just added it.
[11:12] <ScottK> I'm off.
[11:13] <smartboyhw> :)
[11:16] <Tonio> Riddell still sponsored to work on the distro ?
[11:17] <smartboyhw> Tonio, yes.
[11:17] <smartboyhw> Blue Systems replaced the sponsorship.
[11:20] <Tonio> ok smartboyhw ;) by the way who are you ? should I know you with another nick ?
[11:21] <smartboyhw> Tonio, no. Just this nick. I'm a rather new packager around here. A Kubuntu member but not yet an official dev. Been actively working within Ubuntu for a year or so. Now I'm an active ISO tester at QA Team and also Ubuntu Studio (another Ubuntu flavour)'s release manager:)
[11:21] <Tonio> ok ;) I'm an oooooooooold contributor
[11:21] <Tonio> but didn't do much for 2 / 2.5 years now
[11:21] <Tonio> I was core-dev long ago
[11:21] <smartboyhw> Tonio, nice to meet you:)
[11:21] <Tonio> nice to meet you too ;)
[11:22] <smartboyhw> Hey wait, why did so many old contributors came back to visit the channel at June?
[11:22] <smartboyhw> :P
[11:23] <Tonio> there were others that came back ?
[11:23] <Tonio> I saw allee is connected, rgreening aswell...
[11:23] <yofel> manchicken was here the last few days
[11:23] <Tonio> I think wheather is horrible, people  get nostalgic, maybe ;)
[11:24] <Tonio> oh yeah manchicken, of course ;)
[11:24] <Riddell> I don't get this   From wrong source: kdepim-strigi-plugins 4:4.10.4-0ubuntu1 (4:4.10.4-0ubuntu1 not 4:4.10.80-0ubuntu1)
[11:25] <Riddell> something has moved source package?
[11:25] <yofel> nope, it simply ceased to exist
[11:26] <Riddell> hmm, maybe it wants me to add a transitional
[11:27] <yofel> hm, maybe because kubuntu-desktop recommends it?
[11:27] <Riddell> gosh so it does
[11:27] <Riddell> I'll remove that
[11:28] <yofel> how much do we care about accurate copyright files again?
[11:28]  * yofel wonders whether he has to send smartboyhw to copyright file fixing or not
[11:28] <Riddell> "lots" but mostly only when going through New
[11:29] <yofel> well, this would be binary NEW
[11:29] <yofel> for libkscreen1
[11:29] <Riddell> depends who reviews it, that ScottK chap is pretty harsh
[11:30] <yofel> well, it's a small package and it'll be some good exercise
[11:30] <smartboyhw> Meh, someone should make a checklist.....
[11:31] <yofel> smartboyhw: dget -xu http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/tmp/libkscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[11:31] <yofel> fine except for some outdated copyright information
[11:32] <smartboyhw> Meh, I'm blocked for testing now...
[11:33] <yofel> I doubt we would get it in for a1 anyway, so just ping when you're done
[11:33] <smartboyhw> yofel, we won't. Certainly.
[11:33] <smartboyhw> :P
[11:33] <yofel> ^^
[11:41] <smartboyhw> yofel, http://paste.kde.org/783140/ ?
[11:43] <BluesKaj_> Howdy all
[11:44] <yofel> smartboyhw: ack, but cmake/modules/* is missing
[11:44] <yofel> and the package doesn't ship a COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS file :(
[11:46] <yofel> smartboyhw: add the copyright info and we'll try to get it in without the file. I'll add it upstream so it's in the next release
[11:46] <smartboyhw> yofel, ACK. Doing.
[11:50] <yofel> smartboyhw: http://commits.kde.org/libkscreen/e5007a9cd1f0aea39fa2ae20880bb8d9cb798634, that's BSD-3-Clause btw.
[11:55] <smartboyhw> yofel, http://paste.kde.org/783152/
[11:56] <yofel> smartboyhw: ship it
[11:56] <smartboyhw> yofel, alright:)
[12:04] <smartboyhw> yofel, uploading a new version to another PPA (yeah) with a new changelog (present tense) describing the copyright file change and the new file, along with the patch needed to add the file.
[12:06] <smartboyhw> yofel, dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/linux-lowlatency/+files/libkscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[12:06] <smartboyhw> Damn, I forgot to add the patch has.
[12:06] <smartboyhw> s/has./hash./
[12:06] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "Damn, I forgot to add the patch hash."
[12:07] <smartboyhw> Uh oh, yofel you need to do the changelog change to add back the patch commit for me:(
[12:07] <smartboyhw> I mean, commit no.
[12:08] <yofel> smartboyhw: nah, the patch itself has it, that's enough. it just should be *somewhere*
[12:08] <smartboyhw> yofel, :)
[12:10] <yofel> uploaded
[12:10] <smartboyhw> yofel, \o/
[12:10]  * smartboyhw goes running everywhere:P
[12:40] <shadeslayer> not having to press two keys to do page up and page down totally rocks
[12:40] <shadeslayer> stupid MBP keyboardf
[12:41] <shadeslayer> I also get to relearn how to type properly on my shiny new keyboard, so please forgive typos for the next few days
[12:57] <ScottK> Riddell: I got the unblock wrong for baseapps. package needs to be pango1.0, not pango.  Can you fix in my hints file?
[13:02]  * Riddell looks
[13:03] <Riddell> ScottK: I see nothing about pango in there
[13:03] <Riddell> only my jriddell:force-autopkgtest kde-baseapps/4:4.10.80-0ubuntu
[13:13] <shadeslayer> whaaa
[13:13] <ScottK> You need to force pango1.0, not baseapps
[13:14] <shadeslayer> does this make any sense to you : http://i.imgur.com/iQLkO8p.png
[13:14] <yofel> *blink*
[13:15] <ScottK> maybe I forgot to push before I left.
[13:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: well, same here...
[13:15] <shadeslayer> omg <3 having page up and page down buttons
[13:16] <shadeslayer> a full keyboard feels so much more comfy
[13:16] <yofel> a mac has none? ^^
[13:17] <shadeslayer> you use fn + arrow keys
[13:17] <shadeslayer> which I accidentally discovered
[13:17] <yofel> ah, same as on my eeePC then
[13:17] <shadeslayer> yofel: not to mention this is a mechanical keyboard :D
[13:17] <yofel> lol
[13:18] <shadeslayer> my mac keys feel so mushy now -.-
[13:18] <yofel> now you sound like a collegue I have at work. He's a total fan of mechanical keyboards
[13:18] <shadeslayer> I don't see why not
[13:18] <yofel> I like them for personal use, but in an office it's kind of annoying
[13:19] <shadeslayer> yeah well,I get to annoy apol, afiestas_ and vHanda soon
[13:19] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:19] <yofel> lol
[13:19] <shadeslayer> maybe me and afiestas_ can have competitions on who can make more nouice
[13:19] <shadeslayer> *noice
[13:19] <shadeslayer> damnit
[13:19] <vHanda> ?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> you know what I mean
[13:19] <shadeslayer> vHanda: I have a TVS gold
[13:19] <shadeslayer> makes alot of noce
[13:19] <vHanda> ah. Mechanical keyboard
[13:19] <shadeslayer> ...
[13:19] <vHanda> please get a silent one
[13:19] <vHanda> it's bloody annoying
[13:19] <yofel> :D
[13:19] <shadeslayer> muwhahaha
[13:20] <vHanda> that's half the reason why we used to have music in the office
[13:20] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:20] <shadeslayer> too late
[13:20] <vHanda> urgh
[13:21] <vHanda> someone might accidentely drop something on it
[13:21] <vHanda> be careful
[13:21] <yofel> lol
[13:21] <shadeslayer> I wrote my class 12 C++ project using the Borland IDE using this :P
[13:21] <vHanda> what was it? a library manager?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> some sort of database manager that had pretty graphics, yes :P
[13:22] <vHanda> eh!
[13:22] <shadeslayer> yeah, I know, very stereotypical
[13:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, heh, anytime for https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/2buntu/+files/kscreen_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc ?
[13:22] <shadeslayer> but hey, it had pretty graphics!
[13:22] <smartboyhw> Just review it first:)
[13:22] <yofel> smartboyhw: unless someone else does it, I'll do it after lib is through NEW
[13:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, sure. No worries:)
[13:23] <shadeslayer> everyone had shitty graphics, mine had the equivalent of QLineEdits and comboboxes and what not
[13:23] <shadeslayer> also had a easter egg
[13:23] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, LOL
[13:24] <yofel> couldn't really have looked worse than the whack-a-mole kind of thing I wrote for class last year in java
[13:24] <shadeslayer> so, did everything move from -proposed in saucy?
[13:24] <yofel> I couldn't really think of something sensible that used JCanvas + Threads
[13:25] <shadeslayer> -> only knows one line of java : public static void main () { }
[13:25] <shadeslayer> I don't even recall if that mandates arguments ^_^
[13:25] <yofel> that won't compile without a class around it :P
[13:25] <shadeslayer> true
[13:25] <yofel> (String[] args)
[13:25] <shadeslayer> ah right
[13:26] <yofel> the game is actually kinda fun in the end. You're playing whack-a-mole with swing as it eats the mouse events. (threading swing drawing while swing is single-threaded doesn't work that well)
[13:30] <shadeslayer> *blink*
[13:30] <shadeslayer> The following packages have been kept back:
[13:30] <shadeslayer>   plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[13:30] <yofel> sounds like workspace isn't through
[13:30] <shadeslayer> installing ^ makes apt remove kde-workspace
[13:30] <shadeslayer> yeah
[13:31] <yofel> that's what apt usually does
[13:31] <yofel> esp. the first thing it likes killing is kde-workspace-bin
[13:31] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:32] <shadeslayer> any reason to keep workspace in -proposed? or is LP just being slow in migrating it
[13:32] <yofel> autopkgtest for ubiquity 2.15.8: RUNNING
[13:33] <yofel> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kde-workspace
[13:33] <yofel> lol
[13:33] <yofel> Ignoring block request by jriddell, due to unblock request by jriddell
[13:33] <shadeslayer> I don't quite follow what that means :S
[13:33] <smartboyhw> yofel, that was just I wanted to post:P
[13:33] <smartboyhw> Very funny:P
[13:34] <yofel> shadeslayer: I think britney runs the autopkgtests for all packages that use the migrated package to check whether something breaks
[13:34]  * yofel doesn't know too much about those tests
[13:34] <shadeslayer> I see
[13:34] <smartboyhw> That's actually cjwatson's fault (really)
[13:35] <shadeslayer> 'fault' ?
[13:35] <xnox> sure which may or may not be working correctly. ask on #ubuntu-release if you believe it got stuck
[13:36] <xnox> smartboyhw: it's nobody's fault, simply we are all still learning how autopkgtests reverse dependancy checks operate and we are tweaking them as we hit corner cases, when something doesn't operate the way it's intended.
[13:36] <xnox> there are hints release team can apply to skip autopkgtests.
[13:36] <xnox> Riddell: ScottK: ^^^
[13:38] <smartboyhw> xnox, alright then:)
[13:38] <smartboyhw> Thanks:)
[13:49]  * Riddell adds force for pango1.0
[13:50] <smartboyhw> force!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:50]  * Riddell uses the force
[14:12] <smartboyhw> yofel, the package is through NEW :P
[14:12] <smartboyhw> XD
[14:12] <smartboyhw> Albeit, it's just accepted and won't move into -release.
[14:14] <shadeslayer> bah
[14:14] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: ping
[14:14] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: seems like krunner auto prepends "search" to the string
[14:15] <shadeslayer> so maybe I can do : "Search for IETF RFC foo"
[14:20] <Riddell> awooga kde-baseapps in
[14:20] <yofel> smartboyhw: yay, that's really all I care about for now
[14:20] <smartboyhw> Riddell, awooga
[14:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, :)
[14:21] <Riddell> but I still don't get kdepim
[14:21] <smartboyhw> Riddell, meh:(
[14:24] <yofel> why's that only kdepim/armhf btw.
[14:25] <Riddell> hmm kdepim/armhf is pending publication for 16 hours
[14:25] <smartboyhw> :O
[14:29] <smartboyhw> Riddell, calligra fail.
[14:30] <smartboyhw> /usr/share/hicolor/icons/1024x1024/apps/calligrakrita.png appeared in both krita-data 2.6.92-0ubuntu3 and krita 2.6.3.
[14:30] <Riddell> smartboyhw: try calligra 1:2.6.92-0ubuntu6 in -proposed
[14:30] <smartboyhw> -0ubuntu6 !!?!?!?!?!?
[14:30] <smartboyhw> Whoa that's a big difference;P
[14:32] <Riddell> calligra has failed more than once
[14:33] <yofel> 6 isn't high when we're talking about arm
[14:34]  * smartboyhw remembers pushing it to -5 or -8?
[14:34] <smartboyhw> I really forgotten.
[14:36] <smartboyhw> Riddell, no. It still failed.
[14:37] <smartboyhw> /usr/share/hicolor/scalable/apps/calligrakrita.svgz
[14:37] <smartboyhw> Still, krita-data 2.6.92-0ubuntu6 and krita 2.6.3-0ubuntu2
[14:37] <smartboyhw> Meh,.....
[14:37] <Riddell> smartboyhw: fancy fixing it in bzr?
[14:38] <smartboyhw> Riddell, bzr only? OK.
[14:38] <yofel> bzr is the easiest way to upload from
[14:38] <yofel> libkscreen finally got published
[14:39] <smartboyhw> yofel, Riddell from what I'm seeing here, the best method is to let krita-data break krita-
[14:39] <smartboyhw> ......
[14:39] <smartboyhw> krita-data breaks/replaces krita (<< 2.6.3-0ubuntu2)
[14:39] <yofel> wrong
[14:39] <yofel> 2.6.3-0ubuntu2 still has the old file layout
[14:40] <yofel> you probably want << 2.6.92
[14:40] <smartboyhw> yofel, OK.
[14:41] <ahoneybun> Riddell: does digikam still need building?
[14:42] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yofel check the bzr branch.
[14:44] <yofel> ahoneybun: from what I see, yes. Be warned that it's a rather large package. (size and built time wise, difficultiy wise it's not too hard)
[14:44] <yofel> assign bug 1192920 to you if you want to try it
[14:44] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, try it:)
[14:44] <ahoneybun> yofel: only issue is I'm not on saucy
[14:44] <Riddell> smartboyhw: looking
[14:44] <Riddell> ahoneybun: chroot works, or I can give you an ec2
[14:44] <yofel> ^
[14:45] <ahoneybun> I would need a bit of a walk though
[14:45]  * smartboyhw now tries to beat ahoneybun (LOL)
[14:45] <ahoneybun> but sure ;)
[14:45] <ahoneybun> yofel: I got a 1 TB hdd lol
[14:46] <ahoneybun> what smartboyhw lol
[14:46] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:46] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, really?
[14:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: want me to take you through? would take an hour or two
[14:46] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I'm waiting around doing nothing really anyway lol
[14:47] <yofel> a new packager \o/
[14:47] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: really what?
[14:47] <yofel> :P
[14:47] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, 1TB!
[14:47] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lp account?
[14:47] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: well that what it says
[14:47] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, ....
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Whoa
[14:47] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ~aaronhoneycutt
[14:47] <Riddell> yofel: don't get too excited, we don't want to distract him too much from docs :)
[14:47] <yofel> oh, good point
[14:48] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: you know they are never really what size they say always  a bit lest
[14:48] <ahoneybun> less
[14:48] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I like to be useful for more then one thing, also working on one package will not kill me lol
[14:48] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, maybe try QA:P
[14:49]  * Riddell starts an ec2
[14:49]  * smartboyhw challenges ahoneybun :)
[14:49] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: I guess I could test on my macbook
[14:49] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: but one thing at a time ;)
[14:49] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, yeah sure:)
[14:51] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, Riddell hmm it sounds like a big version leap. NOt good.
[14:51] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: digikam?
[14:52] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, yeah
[14:52] <smartboyhw> 3.1.0 -> 3.3.0-beta2
[14:52] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: that is a big one
[14:52] <yofel> 3.2 -> 3.3-b2
[14:52] <Riddell> it's less than 0.2 better
[14:53] <smartboyhw> Even worse; 3.2 fails with armhf
[14:54] <yofel> because I never got around to fix it. 3.3 won't be any worse at least
[14:54]  * smartboyhw thinks it might be worse.
[14:54] <shadeslayer> -> dinner
[14:57] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:57] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yofel uploaded -0ubuntu7 for calligra yet/
[14:57] <Riddell> ahoneybun: run  byobu
[14:57] <smartboyhw> ?
[14:57] <yofel> nope
[14:57] <Riddell> smartboyhw: just about to
[14:57] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yeah:)
[14:57] <Riddell> done
[14:58] <smartboyhw> :O
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Installing build-deps for digikam
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Actually digikam does take a long time so if I succeed within this hour I will O-mouth.
[14:58] <ahoneybun> freaky and cool all at once
[14:58] <Riddell> smartboyhw: wait, are you doing digikam too?
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I'm challenging:P
[14:59] <Riddell> challenging?
[14:59]  * smartboyhw vs. ahoneybun :)
[14:59]  * ahoneybun is confused
[14:59] <yofel> fix the arm build instead :P
[14:59] <smartboyhw> LOL
[14:59] <smartboyhw> yofel, I don't know ARM.
[14:59] <smartboyhw> That's the issue,
[14:59] <Riddell> smartboyhw: mm why are we duplicating?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> I rather want every computer in the world to be 64- or 128-bit.
[14:59] <smartboyhw> Riddell, because I am having fun:P
[15:00] <smartboyhw> And I'm waiting for a re-spin from Kylin.
[15:00] <Riddell> smartboyhw: how about doing simon instead?
[15:00] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I gave the job to you so no:P
[15:00] <smartboyhw> Speaking of that, I have an interview to post.
[15:00] <Riddell> ahoneybun: well anyway download the current digikam into a directory (I call it current)
[15:02] <ahoneybun> ok
[15:02] <Riddell> ahoneybun: on the ec2
[15:02] <ahoneybun> I know ;) http://www.digikam.org/download?q=download/GIT?
[15:03] <ahoneybun> I made /home/ubuntu/digikam/current
[15:03] <Riddell> apt-get source
[15:04] <Riddell> and in another dir wget http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-3.2.0.tar.bz2
[15:04] <ahoneybun> apt-get source digikam?
[15:04] <Riddell> that'll do it
[15:04] <yofel> that ec2 does have proposed enabled, yes? otherwise that'll get 3.1
[15:05] <Riddell> good point, ahoneybun enable proposed first
[15:05] <ahoneybun> so in /digikam run apt-get source and then in the current dir run the wget?
[15:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: sources.list?
[15:05]  * yofel would just take the packaging from bzr
[15:05] <Riddell> yes, once you've added -proposed to sources.list
[15:06] <Riddell> oh yes it is in bzr, so best to checkout lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam
[15:06] <ahoneybun> lets take this one step at a time..
[15:07] <ahoneybun> is the sources.list not in /etc/apt/?
[15:07] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yes it is
[15:07] <ahoneybun> no apt dir
[15:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: voila
[15:08] <ahoneybun> what
[15:08] <ahoneybun> lol
[15:08] <ahoneybun> I did not see it
[15:08] <ahoneybun> ok so what now
[15:08] <Riddell> I just got a request to backport Amarok 2.7.1 for raring, anyone want to take it on?
[15:09] <Riddell> ahoneybun: copy and paste the saucy-updates lines and change to saucy-proposed
[15:09] <yofel> uh...
[15:09] <ahoneybun> nano does not have c and p lol
[15:09] <yofel>      2:2.7.1-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 0
[15:09] <yofel>          50 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[15:09] <yofel> amarok ^
[15:10] <Riddell> ahoneybun: control k  control u
[15:10] <smartboyhw> Yeah:)
[15:10] <Riddell> yofel: I guess he's talking about official backports
[15:11] <ahoneybun> Riddell: already did it without that lol anyway
[15:11] <yofel> ah. it could probably even be an SRU if someone wants to do the paperwork
[15:11] <Riddell> ahoneybun: keep -updates too
[15:11] <yofel> not too many changes
[15:11] <ahoneybun> Riddell: wait so have both -updates and -proposed?
[15:11] <ahoneybun> oh
[15:12] <ahoneybun> double then change
[15:12] <Riddell> ahoneybun: voila
[15:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: you know its like you are doing for me lol
[15:12] <ahoneybun> well I did not sudo it
[15:12] <ahoneybun> so
[15:12] <Riddell> oh foo
[15:12] <Riddell> nano doesn't warn about that
[15:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I will get it now!
[15:16] <ahoneybun> Riddell: want to double check/.
[15:16] <ahoneybun> ?
[15:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: good
[15:16] <ahoneybun> cool
[15:16] <ahoneybun> sudo apt-get update?
[15:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yep
[15:16] <ahoneybun> I know that much! lo
[15:16] <ahoneybun> l
[15:17] <smartboyhw> Guys, digikam will fail.
[15:17] <smartboyhw> OpenCV's version is TOO LOW
[15:18] <smartboyhw> 2.4.2 in archive, 2.4.3 required.
[15:18] <smartboyhw> Damn....
[15:18] <yofel> fun
[15:18] <yofel> it's optional though I believe
[15:19] <Riddell> nice to keep it though
[15:19] <ahoneybun> Riddell: apt-get source?
[15:19] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yeah
[15:19] <Riddell> inside current/
[15:19] <ahoneybun> k
[15:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, no it isn't
[15:20] <ahoneybun> Riddell: pulls 3.2.0-0
[15:20] <smartboyhw> Because of that klibface can't be compiled
[15:20] <smartboyhw> And it fails.
[15:20] <smartboyhw> \o/
[15:20] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ahoneybun ^
[15:20] <ahoneybun> Riddell: needs dpkg-dev package extra 104 mbs
[15:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun: go for it
[15:21] <ahoneybun> ok double checking
[15:21] <ahoneybun> not my server ll
[15:21] <ahoneybun> lol
[15:21] <smartboyhw> CMake Warning at extra/libkface/CMakeLists.txt:81 (MESSAGE):
[15:21] <smartboyhw>   OpenCV: Version is too old.
[15:21] <smartboyhw> CMake Error at extra/libkface/CMakeLists.txt:166 (MESSAGE):
[15:21] <smartboyhw>   LibKface cannot be compiled.
[15:21] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ahoneybun yofel ^
[15:21] <smartboyhw> HUrray.
[15:21] <ahoneybun> looks like it
[15:22] <yofel> let me fetch the source and read the cmake config
[15:23] <Riddell> what is libkface?
[15:23] <ahoneybun> Riddell: looks like it got it
[15:23] <yofel> face recognition stuff
[15:23] <ahoneybun> 3.2.0-0
[15:23] <Riddell> ah part of digikam
[15:23] <yofel>  opencv | 2.4.3+dfsg-1     | experimental | source
[15:23] <yofel> someone merge that
[15:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: groovy, now download the new tar
[15:24] <smartboyhw> yofel, Riddell ahoneybun ELSE(OpenCV_FOUND)
[15:24] <smartboyhw>     MESSAGE(FATAL_ERROR "LibKface cannot be compiled.")
[15:24] <smartboyhw> ENDIF(OpenCV_FOUND)
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Yes:)
[15:24] <Riddell> gosh opencv looks like a beast
[15:24] <yofel> brrr
[15:24] <Riddell> 78MB tar
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Riddell, :O
[15:24] <ahoneybun> Riddell: wget http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-3.2.0.tar.bz2 /home/ubuntu/digikam?
[15:25] <ahoneybun> wait
[15:25] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, no.
[15:25] <ahoneybun> yea I see
[15:25] <smartboyhw> The new tar is in unstable:)
[15:25] <ahoneybun> yea
[15:25] <smartboyhw> Why the hell does digikam require such a new version of opencv actually?
[15:26] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you really need to learn about copy and paste
[15:26] <ahoneybun> Riddell: in nano only lol
[15:27] <ahoneybun> Riddell:  wget http://download.kde.org/unstable/digikam/digikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz2
[15:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I'm going to insist on you using copy and paste
[15:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: go to http://download.kde.org/unstable/digikam/
[15:27] <Riddell> right click on  digikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz2
[15:27] <Riddell> Copy Link Location
[15:27] <Riddell> in terminal type wget  then press middle mouse button
[15:27] <ahoneybun> I got the link though
[15:28] <Riddell> yes you did, by typing it!
[15:28]  * smartboyhw ALWAYS uses Ctrl+C Ctrl+V :P
[15:28] <Riddell> yay :)
[15:28] <smartboyhw> I do sometimes use typing though
[15:28] <smartboyhw> When I want to train it.
[15:28] <yofel> smartboyhw: seems like they rewrote quite a bit with it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320763
[15:28] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I also used shift cont c to get it from the konsole to here
[15:29] <ahoneybun> Riddell: downloaded
[15:30] <Riddell> ahoneybun: rename tar
[15:30] <Riddell> digikam-3.3.0-beta2.tar.bz2  needs to be
[15:30] <Riddell> digikam_3.3.0~beta2.orig.tar.bz2
[15:31] <Riddell> packaging is fussy about the tar name
[15:31] <ahoneybun> darn what that command for renaming
[15:31] <Riddell> mv  is a good one
[15:31] <ahoneybun> yea
[15:31] <ahoneybun> done
[15:31] <Riddell> ahoneybun: extract the tar
[15:32] <ahoneybun> tar  -xf something?
[15:33] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah sure. Let us get that merged though, we can't do anything...
[15:33] <smartboyhw> tar -xjvf <tar.bz2>?
[15:33] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yep
[15:33]  * smartboyhw forgotten
[15:34] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: that worked
[15:34] <yofel> smartboyhw: no need for j
[15:34] <smartboyhw> yofel, oh sorry.
[15:34] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, eh!?
[15:34] <yofel> not with -x
[15:34] <smartboyhw> What's -j for actually?
[15:34] <yofel> bzip2 compression
[15:35] <yofel> but -x auto-recognises the compression type
[15:35] <smartboyhw> yofel, oh really?
[15:35] <smartboyhw> -xjf only.
[15:35] <ahoneybun> well I got it extraced
[15:35] <Riddell> ahoneybun: copy the debian/ directory from the current package
[15:35] <yofel> so j is optional
[15:35] <ahoneybun> from the 3.3.0 ver? or 3.2.0?
[15:36] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the 3.2.0
[15:36] <ahoneybun> ok
[15:36] <smartboyhw> Riddell, heh? I use http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/update.en.html
[15:36] <smartboyhw> It does -0ubuntu1 versions, really:)
[15:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: to where?
[15:37] <Riddell> ahoneybun: to the 3.3.0 sources
[15:37] <ahoneybun> ok
[15:37] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you think that page (or the uupdate) isn't good enough?
[15:37]  * smartboyhw likes tools,
[15:38]  * ahoneybun feels stupid
[15:39] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I don't see much advantage and it's best to explain the steps that uupdate would be doing
[15:39] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, why?
[15:39] <smartboyhw> Riddell, oh alright
[15:39] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:39] <Riddell> ahoneybun: cp -r
[15:39] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: cp command for copy no?
[15:39] <ahoneybun> that
[15:39] <ahoneybun> I was using cp -v
[15:39] <smartboyhw> I think I was explained the procedure before, so I can use tools with understanding:)
[15:40] <ahoneybun> Riddell: done
[15:40] <smartboyhw> Oh god, debate in -offtopic....
[15:40] <Riddell> ahoneybun: in the 3.3.0 version run dch -i to add a new changelog
[15:40] <Riddell> smartboyhw: anything offensive?
[15:40] <Riddell> I don't think I've ever been in -offtopic
[15:41] <smartboyhw> Riddell, not much, just ahoneybun and few others wanting Kubuntu to go Debian:P
[15:41] <ahoneybun> not waiting, just thinking
[15:41] <yofel> more others, really
[15:41] <smartboyhw> More others, really
[15:42] <ahoneybun> Riddell: need the devscripts package
[15:43] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I suggest you install it then :)
[15:43] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I don't like to install stuff on things that are not mine without telling at least
[15:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: BTW I took a look at the DMB meeting minutes, seems like dev alias is merely lacking a name?
[15:44] <shadeslayer> yofel: and cjwatson was given the greenlight to start working on adding the feature to LP
[15:45] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it's an ec2, the whole point is it's a temporary machine we'll shut down when we're done with it
[15:45] <ahoneybun> oh
[15:45] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, you are correct...
[15:45] <Riddell> so we can mess it up if we like and it's only our own time we're wasting
[15:45] <yofel> shadeslayer: \o/
[15:45] <shadeslayer> time + money
[15:45] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:45] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ok it opened up the changelog
[15:45] <Riddell> ahoneybun: fix version, add entry, fix your name and e-mail
[15:46] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it added that top entry as a template for you to fill in
[15:46] <ahoneybun> so change the 4:3.2.0 to the current?
[15:47] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yes
[15:48] <ahoneybun> 3.3.0-beta2?
[15:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: 3.3.0~beta1-0ubuntu1
[15:48] <ahoneybun> ok
[15:49] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the ~ is a magic character to mean the next bit is less as a number value
[15:49] <Riddell> so you can have 3.3.0~beta1 followed by 3.3.0
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Riddell, isn't it beta2?
[15:49] <ahoneybun> first beta as a ubuntu package?
[15:50] <Riddell> ahoneybun: smartboyhw is right, beta2
[15:50]  * smartboyhw doesn't think so...
[15:50] <Riddell> it's the upstream version number
[15:50] <smartboyhw> Yeah, I'm correct!!!!
[15:50] <ahoneybun> Riddell: add entry?
[15:51] <Riddell> ahoneybun: some text
[15:51] <Riddell> "new upstream release" next to the * is common
[15:51] <ahoneybun> like the prevoius
[15:51] <Riddell> yeah
[15:51] <Riddell> dunno if we have a bug no or not
[15:52] <ahoneybun> I see yofel wrote relase not release lol
[15:52] <yofel> happens...
[15:52] <ahoneybun> yofel: I fixed it ;)
[15:52] <ahoneybun> I know
[15:53] <ahoneybun> happens a lot to me lol
[15:53] <Riddell> ahoneybun: lovely save and quit
[15:53] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ok
[15:54] <Quintasan> hurp durp pbuilder is broken
[15:54] <Quintasan> or Debian mirrors are
[15:55] <Riddell> ahoneybun: now check the patches
[15:55] <Riddell> quilt push   to push the first patch
[15:55] <Riddell> you can look in debian/patches to see what's there first
[15:56] <ahoneybun> there is 3
[15:56] <ahoneybun> well
[15:56] <ahoneybun> 2 .diff
[15:56] <ahoneybun> s
[15:57] <Riddell> ahoneybun: quilt push  to apply the first one
[15:57] <Riddell> quilt is the tool to manage patches
[15:57] <ahoneybun> need to install it lol
[15:57]  * Riddell starts building new opencv, it is a beast
[15:58] <ahoneybun> seems it skipped them
[15:58] <Riddell> hmm
[15:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ah wrong directory you were running it from and it needs QUILT_PATCHES set
[15:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: run  quilt refresh
[15:59] <Riddell> that'll stop any offset in the patches
[15:59] <Riddell> by refreshing the patch
[15:59] <ahoneybun> what dir?
[16:00] <Riddell> ahoneybun: this one
[16:00] <Riddell> groovy, now push the next patch
[16:00] <Riddell> refresh it
[16:00] <ahoneybun> but I was in that one
[16:01] <ahoneybun> ok
[16:01] <Riddell> lovely
[16:01] <Riddell> now we can build it
[16:01] <Riddell> run  debuild
[16:01] <ahoneybun> oh I see now
[16:01] <Riddell> s/run//
[16:01] <kubotu> Riddell meant: "  debuild"
[16:02] <smartboyhw> BTW Riddell ahoneybun add valgrind as a build-dep please.
[16:02] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: how?
[16:02] <smartboyhw> ahoneybun, Riddell will teach you:)
[16:02] <Riddell> hang on, we don't know it needs it yet
[16:02] <ahoneybun> error
[16:02] <Riddell> "Unmet build dependencies"!
[16:02] <ahoneybun> oh my
[16:02] <smartboyhw> -- Looking for valgrind/valgrind.h
[16:03] <smartboyhw> -- Looking for valgrind/valgrind.h - not found
[16:03] <smartboyhw> .....
[16:03] <smartboyhw> Riddell, !?
[16:03] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I use  /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends  to install them
[16:03] <Riddell> smartboyhw: we've not got that far
[16:03] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I know, tellling you guys:)
[16:03] <ahoneybun> I dont think pbuilder is installed
[16:05]  * Riddell wonders why ahoneybun's terminal is so narrow
[16:05] <smartboyhw> good night guys. ahoneybun good luck with packaging:)
[16:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: because I don't use it for much
[16:06] <ahoneybun> smartboyhw: thanks! and gn
[16:06]  * ahoneybun is scared that Riddell can see that
[16:06] <smartboyhw> lol
[16:06] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you can see mine just as much, only the ssh into the ec2 server :)
[16:07] <ahoneybun> I don't see anything other then mine
[16:07] <ahoneybun> Riddell: when will we begin loading things onto the docs server?
[16:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: when we work out how I guess
[16:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it's the stuff on wiki.kubuntu that needs copied?
[16:08] <ahoneybun> Riddell: just write html and css?
[16:08] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: and you'll be editing from wiki.kubuntu still presumably?
[16:09] <ahoneybun> yea I think the wiki has a copy to html function
[16:09] <Riddell> so we need a script that downloads from there, puts a nice headers and footer on and fixes any URLs for images or whatever
[16:09] <Riddell> mm interesting
[16:09] <ahoneybun> no
[16:09] <Quintasan> Whatcha guys building?
[16:10] <ahoneybun> there is not downloads just the text
[16:10] <ahoneybun> Quintasan: digikam
[16:10] <Quintasan> Ah, have fun
[16:10]  * Quintasan needs some tea
[16:12] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ooh it's building!
[16:13] <ahoneybun> seems
[16:13] <Riddell> boom!
[16:13] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:13] <ahoneybun> libkface
[16:13] <Riddell> ahoneybun: valgrind/valgrind.h too, search on packages.ubuntu.com for what package contains that file
[16:14] <Riddell> then add it to build-depends in debian/control
[16:14] <Riddell> I've got opencv compiling here but it's only 50% done and I don't know if it'll be at all simple to finish it off
[16:15] <ahoneybun> there is a valgrind package
[16:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: if that's the package with valgrind.h add it to debian/control
[16:16] <ahoneybun> valgrind and valgrind-dbg
[16:16] <ahoneybun> I don't know about that though
[16:16] <Riddell> ignore the -dbg
[16:16] <ahoneybun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/valgrind
[16:17] <Riddell> awooga kde-workspace in
[16:17] <Riddell> don't know how don't know when but it's in
[16:18] <Riddell> just kdepim and okular to go
[16:18] <Riddell> ahoneybun: remember the comma
[16:19]  * ahoneybun is being watched
[16:19]  * Riddell works for GCHQ
[16:19] <Riddell> ahoneybun: save and debuild again
[16:22] <Quintasan> mfw dailies dont work
[16:22] <Quintasan> CHRIST
[16:22] <Riddell> mfw?
[16:22] <Riddell> meeting for worship?  you a quaker now?
[16:22] <Quintasan> My Face When
[16:22] <Quintasan> actually
[16:22] <ahoneybun> libkface
[16:23] <Riddell> Quintasan: what's that?
[16:23] <Riddell> ahoneybun: and that's about as far as we can go until this opencv build is done
[16:23] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ok
[16:23] <Riddell> ahoneybun: do look in debian/ to see what's actually in the packaging
[16:23] <Quintasan> Riddell: I should actually paste an image showing my reaction but I couldn't care about looking for one because there isn't one
[16:24] <Quintasan> ktp-text-ui FAILS only on i386
[16:24] <ahoneybun> Riddell: what am I looking for?
[16:24] <Quintasan> with some headers missing
[16:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: anything you like :)
[16:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: debian/control and debian/rules are important ones
[16:24] <ahoneybun> Riddell: oh you want to get used to the files
[16:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html has some explanations
[16:27]  * Riddell out for 20 mins
[17:18] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yo, I got opencv up
[17:18] <ahoneybun> sweet
[17:20] <ahoneybun> I see you are working
[17:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: Can you sync wacomtablet from unstable?
[17:20] <Riddell> ahoneybun: awooga, it's compiling
[17:20] <ahoneybun> I see
[17:21] <Riddell> Quintasan: sure but you need to file a bug (else the script won't work)
[17:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun: well now to sit back and wait, this ec2 isn't very fast
[17:21] <ahoneybun> yep
[17:23] <yofel> ahoneybun: btw. don't forget to close #1192920 in the changelog
[17:24] <ahoneybun> yofel: is that a bug?
[17:24] <yofel> lp 1192920
[17:24] <yofel> just add (LP: #1192920) in the changelog
[17:26] <ahoneybun> Riddell: can I change the log while it is compiling?
[17:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the changelog?  yes
[17:27] <ahoneybun> yea
[17:27] <yofel> ahoneybun: see as example http://paste.kde.org/783116/ to where to put it
[17:29] <Riddell> hum
[17:29] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I guess my package of opencv was incomplete :(
[17:30] <ahoneybun>  /debian/control?
[17:30] <ahoneybun> got it
[17:30] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the bug number you put in debian/changelog
[17:31] <Riddell> oh well time to start another build of opencv, that'll be another hour or so it'll take and I need to go out now
[17:31] <yofel> can you add me to the ec2?
[17:31] <yofel> then I can help him for a while longer
[17:31] <Riddell> yep
[17:32] <Riddell> yofel: ec2-54-227-30-58.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[17:32] <Riddell> yofel: I uploaded my opencv package but it's incomplete, misses that libopencv_superres.so and maybe others so feel free to complete it if you want
[17:32] <yofel> Permission denied (publickey).
[17:32] <yofel> which one did you add?
[17:32] <yofel> and what user?
[17:32] <Riddell> wget https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+sshkeys
[17:33] <Riddell> cat +sshkeys.1 >> authorized_keys
[17:33] <yofel> hehe
[17:33] <Riddell><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:33] <yofel> works
[17:33] <Riddell> we're in byobu
[17:34] <yofel> are you building opencv, or...?
[17:34] <Riddell> yofel: I am locally but I'm about to go out so it's not much use for you
[17:35] <Riddell> you can built it on the ec2 but it's slow it'll take all night
[17:35] <Riddell> I can make another ec2 if you want
[17:36] <yofel> nah, just upload the source and i'll build it here
[17:36] <Riddell> although I did try to do a higher cpu one, maybe my script it out of date
[17:36] <Riddell> yofel: it's in launchpad
[17:37] <yofel> ok, I see it now, thanks
[18:22] <ahoneybun> yofel: how is it going?
[18:22] <yofel> [ 88%] Building CXX object modules/stitching/CMakeFiles/opencv_stitching.dir/src/seam_finders.cpp.o
[18:22] <ahoneybun> awesome
[18:22] <yofel> doesn't support building in parallel sadly :/
[18:22] <yofel> would already be done then
[18:22] <ahoneybun> yea
[18:22] <ahoneybun> are you doing that on the same ec2?
[18:24] <yofel> nope, on my machine here which is faster
[18:25] <ahoneybun> oh so how are you going to get it on the ec2 so I can compile it
[18:25] <yofel> I'll upload the debs with sftp once I'm done here
[18:28] <ahoneybun> ok cool
[18:31] <yofel> uploading
[18:37] <yofel> ahoneybun: done
[18:38] <yofel> you can continue
[18:38] <ahoneybun> cool
[18:41] <yofel> that... will take a *while*
[18:47] <ahoneybun> yep
[18:50] <yofel> drat
[18:50] <yofel> that's -./usr/lib/libopencv_superres.so.2.4.5
[18:50] <yofel> from opencv list-missing :S
[19:18] <ahoneybun> I see
[19:19] <yofel> i hacked a quick package for that together, will take a few more minutes
[19:29] <ScottK> xnox: I know about force-autopackagetest. It's semantics are backward though.  I'm going to write a mail about it.
[19:32] <ahoneybun> yofel: ok
[19:35] <yofel> ahoneybun: done, now run 'debuild -nc' so it doesn't start from the beginning (nc is --no-clean)
[19:35] <ahoneybun> k
[19:36] <yofel> ok, building. *phew*
[19:46] <ahoneybun> ok looks good
[20:31] <soee> anyone on 4.10.80 ?
[21:04]  * ahoneybun hopes digikam 3.3.0 beta 2 will be built when he gets home from work
[21:54] <valorie> congratulations, ahoneybun!
[21:55] <valorie> very cool to have more packagers
[22:52] <valorie> !info libmygpo-qt
[22:52] <valorie> why not?
[22:53] <valorie> every time I build amarok from git I notice I don't have an up-to-date version
[22:53]  * Riddell publishes http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir
[22:53] <Riddell> ooh bingo
[22:54] <Riddell> !testers | new alpha 1 candidate images
[22:54] <Riddell> ahoneybun: voila, compiled!
[22:56] <Riddell> valorie: how's that blog post?
[22:57] <valorie> sec, I'll read; just got back from the post office and library
[22:58] <valorie> sensible manor should be manner
[22:59] <valorie> otherwise awesome!
[22:59] <Riddell> groovy
[23:00] <valorie> I wonder how all the forks such as Mint will deal with MIR?
[23:00] <valorie> I was searching a bit last night and they seem to be Not In Favor
[23:00] <ScottK> Riddell: "Comes to Kubuntu @ Akademy"/"Come to Kubuntu @ Akademy"
[23:00] <valorie> oops, missed that
[23:01]  * ScottK waits for the claim that it's proper Scottish English and since Scotland invented the language, it's correct.
[23:01] <Riddell> ta
[23:02] <Riddell> although that would have been a good excuse for it :)
[23:02] <valorie> perhaps Riddell was to the manor born
[23:02] <valorie> :-)
[23:03] <ScottK> Pretty sure the whole manor thing is actually English.
[23:04] <ScottK> IIRC when those were going up Scotland tended to be more about fortified castles and stealing cattle.
[23:04] <valorie> the Normans invaded Scotland too
[23:04] <valorie> ScottK: and sheep!
[23:04] <valorie> everyone forgets the sheep
[23:05] <Riddell> I do like paddling the Tweed for a good little invasion of England and some cattle russling
[23:08] <valorie> how in the heck do you keep the cows from tipping over your kayak?
[23:09] <Riddell> oh we put the kayak on top of the cow
[23:09] <valorie> rofl
[23:09] <Riddell> putting the cow on the kayak would be just silly
[23:09] <valorie> go Bessie go!
[23:09] <ScottK> You could tow the cow behind.
[23:10] <Riddell> no no, you guys have it all wrong, you can tow the kayak behind the cow
[23:10] <Riddell> sheesh, how did you ever rebel against the English?
[23:10] <Riddell> hi murthy, Quintasan, yofel
[23:12] <ScottK> Riddell: Successfully.
[23:13] <ScottK> How'd yours go?
[23:13] <Riddell> ask me again in a year
[23:13] <yofel> Riddell: server power outage
[23:13] <yofel> missed anything important?
[23:13] <ScottK> Admittedly, the ocean between helped.
[23:13] <Riddell> yofel: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir
[23:14] <yofel> Riddell++
[23:32] <Riddell> awooga, alpha image installs
[23:58] <Quintasan> Riddell++
[23:58] <Quintasan> lolmir


[16:17] <minimal> Hi folks. Is there a new ETA for the 20.3 release?
[16:55] <meena> minimal: last time i heard an ETA, it was last Thursday… given that there's still no release, maybe that was just a rumour
[16:59] <minimal> meena: yeah that was the plan. There were 2 PRs that were merged on Thu and 1 on Friday and I see 2 new MRs were opened recently so wasn't sure if they might hold up the release further or if its likely to come out some time on Monday
[17:08] <meena> is this going to be another SRU release?
[17:12] <minimal> not familiar with the term SRU
[20:45] <nargit> hello, I am a completly noob to cloud-init but I would like to install a ubuntu server for raspberry pi. I just try to understand how to passe the config.yaml at boot time ?
[20:46] <nargit> pass*
[20:46] <nargit> because I need to flash the img to an sd card, but cannot find any doc on how to include my config.yaml file to the img