[08:10] <fas> kunji: yup. I still prefer dual boot to Wubi though
[08:10] <hillary> fas, link
[08:11] <fas> ubuntu.com
[08:11] <phoenixsampras> oh thanks!!
[08:11] <fas> There is a LOT of documentation
[08:11] <somsip> hillary: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/an-absolute-ubuntu-beginners-guide.html
[08:11] <fas> WhiteRook: you probably don't need much swap
[08:11] <fas> how big of a hdd
[08:11] <fas> and how much do you have used by win8?
[08:11] <WhiteRook> 1TB
[08:12] <WhiteRook> i have 150GB used
[08:12] <hillary> somsip, Thanks
[08:12] <fas> I'd give 8gb swap (even though it's still overkill
[08:12] <fas> Then at least 30gb for the main partition since you can afford
[08:12] <fas> But of course, you can use as much as you want
[08:12] <dysun> fas: nvm i figured it out. /usr/local/src is where i put the source. /usr/local/bin is where the 'gns3' command is found
[08:13] <fas> Personally I have a 512gb ssd and have it split down the middle
[08:13] <kunji> WhiteRook: You only really need a root partition (/) and the swap partition (/swap), I would make swap the size of your RAM unless you have a lot.  / I would probably drop between 100 and 200 gigs on if my drive is that size, but you could install with as little as 5... I would use a minimum of 30
[08:13] <WhiteRook> Yeah i was thinking of freeing up about 100GB as unalocated (to be divided on partitions for ubuntu, swap, and another OS)
[08:13] <fas> dysun: I figured it'd be there, but I wasn't confident. :)
[08:14] <fas> If you're going to do a third, I would have more than 100
[08:14] <fas> You don't want to keep on repartitioning to prevent screwing something up
[08:14] <kunji> subdesign: You say you installed the latest driver?  Maybe put back the old one, I'm guess this new driver wasn't in the repos was it?
[08:14] <fas> WhiteRook: I mean, you don't want to keep on resizing partitions
[08:14] <subdesign> kunji, no
[08:14] <fas> I'd suggest taking at least 150gb from your win8
[08:15] <subdesign> i downloaded the latest deb package
[08:15] <fas> then split that into ubuntu and leave some unallocated for your third
[08:15] <kunji> WhiteRook: Yeah, better not to keep resizing if you don't need to, though personally I've never had gparted screw up, it's better not to chance it.
[08:15] <fas> Easier to add unallocated to already existing partitions then resizing existing ones with data
[08:15] <fas> I've never had gparted screw up either, but yeah, it has been known to happen
[08:16] <WhiteRook> no i just plan on leaving some of the 100 as unalocated for 3rd i meant
[08:16] <fas> That's why backing up is always a good idea
[08:16] <fas> WhiteRook: if you think 100 is enough for two whole OSs.
[08:16] <fas> You Do have a 1tb drive. ;)
[08:16] <fas> Up to you of course. 100 will be fine for 2 *nix OSs
[08:16] <kunji> WhiteRook: A heads up, windows likes to complain when it gets resized and will insist on checking the filesystem, sometimes it gets in a bad sort of loop where it checks it on every boot, so try really hard to not resize the windows partition
[08:18] <kunji> Mmk... I need to sleep, only 2 hours last night and it's 3:18 A.M. where I am.
[08:18] <fas> Thanks for earlier kunji
[08:18] <fas> ah balls
[08:18] <WhiteRook> If i were to free up 500GB as unalocated, once I format a partition for ubuntu, would i have issues adding some of the unalocated remaining space to windows parittion if needed? the partitions have to be adjacent dont they?
[08:19] <fas> WhiteRook: probabl not too much of a problem, but windows does complain a bit when resized either direction
[08:19] <fas> Just make sure to back up win8 before doing anything
[08:19] <WhiteRook> haha yeah
[08:21] <WhiteRook> any favorite bootloaders out there that work well for anyone with multi mixed OSs (not all nix OSs)?
[08:21] <fas> I'm running server 12.04, what is the best way to set up a vm? I'm looking at setting up a vm of metasploitable so there won't be any graphics on the VM
[08:21] <fas> WhiteRook: grub is awesome
[08:22] <fas> Should find win8 automatically too
[08:22] <WhiteRook> used grub once awhile back, liked it - didnt know if it has issues on win 8 though
[08:22] <fas> Nope, it's solid
[08:22] <fas> It's what I use
[08:22] <somsip> !info svfb | fas
[08:22] <somsip> !info Xvfb | fas
[08:22] <fas> Besides, grub just points to windows' own bootloader
[08:22] <somsip> !info xvfb | fas
[08:23] <fas> somsip: thanks
[08:23] <fas> I'll check it out
[08:23] <fas> I heard of bochs but it sounded like a poor solution
[08:23] <somsip> fas: I use this with a CI server so it may be similar for VMs. I think i've seen search results for VM on a headless server before too
[08:23] <fas> hmm. Ok
[08:24] <iceroot> fas: i am using xen for my headless vms on a server
[08:25] <fas> iceroot: how does xen work?
[08:25] <fas> Is it run in X?
[08:25] <iceroot> !xen | fas
[08:25] <iceroot> fas: no
[08:25] <fas> that sounds pretty good then
[08:26] <iceroot> fas: its directly in the kernel (you need a xen-kernel)
[08:26] <fas> iceroot: thanks
[08:26] <iceroot> hm, no xen-kernel in 12.04?
[08:27] <iceroot> !info xen-hypervisor-amd64
[08:27] <subdesign> if I installed drivers this way - http://bit.ly/14ye5ac - how can I remove it?
[08:27] <fas> I think everyone past 11.04 has xen-kernel
[08:28] <iceroot> !info xen-hypervisor-4.1-amd64 precise
[08:28] <iceroot> fas: you could also have a look at kvm
[08:29] <iceroot> !kvm | fas
[08:29] <fas> god damn it
[08:29] <iceroot> fas: seems like ubuntu os prefering kvm and not xen
[08:29] <fas> just installed xen
[08:29] <fas> lol
[08:31] <iceroot> fas: i am running fine here with xen, so xen is not a bad option but as it seems kvm is the current vm-tech (kernel based) which is getting more support/updates
[08:31] <fas> alright
[08:31] <fas> any way I can roll back this aptitude install?
[08:32] <bono> it's simply the fastest virtualization sw out there
[08:32] <iceroot> fas: apt-get remove packagename
[08:32] <fas> thanks
[08:32] <dr_willis> best to not use aptitude these days.
[08:32] <fas> does that take care of dependencies it installed?
[08:32] <iceroot> !aptitude | fas
[08:32] <iceroot> dr_willis: btw the bug is fixed in 12.10
[08:32] <iceroot> fas: yes
[08:32] <fas> iceroot: thanks
[08:32] <Tensibai> Hi
[08:32] <WhiteRook> ok wtf is 686 architecture
[08:33] <iceroot> fas: but for the dependencies you have to run "sudo apt-get autoremove" after
[08:33] <iceroot> WhiteRook: 32bit
[08:33] <iceroot> WhiteRook: i686
[08:33] <Tensibai> I'm looking for specs about partman in preseed files
[08:33] <iceroot> WhiteRook: also known as x86
[08:34] <Tensibai> If someone has a pointer on what the 3 numbers does exactly within expert-recipe it would really help me
[08:34] <WhiteRook> i just got an error stating my x64 ISO for ubunto wont run but i am running an intel i7 3630 quad core 64 bit
[08:34] <iceroot> WhiteRook: and what error exactly?
[08:35] <WhiteRook> i was trying to get ubuntu up on a test in VM and it said only i686 was detected
[08:35] <WhiteRook> CPU virtualization maybe?
[08:35] <WhiteRook> no direct paging access?
[08:35] <iceroot> WhiteRook: you did not enable VT-X in virtualbox
[08:35] <iceroot> WhiteRook: or vmware
[08:36] <iceroot> WhiteRook: or vt-x is not enabled in the bios
[08:36] <WhiteRook> yeah i disabled it because i got a conflict when i tried it first
[08:36] <iceroot> WhiteRook: and how should amd64 work when you disable vt-x?
[08:36] <fas> iceroot: does xen run if my cpu desn't support hardware virtualization?
[08:36] <iceroot> WhiteRook: vt-x is the reason why amd64 is working in vms
[08:36] <iceroot> fas: yes
[08:36] <WhiteRook> yeah i know im tired and not thinking lol
[08:36] <fas> kvm doesn
[08:36] <fas> t
[08:37] <fas> so I guess I'll be going with xen. :P
[08:37] <iceroot> fas: what cpu do you have?
[08:37] <fas> amd, it's old
[08:37] <fas> idk specifics off top of my head
[08:37] <fas> dual core
[08:37] <iceroot> fas: you could have a look at "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[08:38] <iceroot> fas: but i dont know how it is named on amd cpus, on intel its "vt-x"
[08:38] <iceroot> fas: hm, if that is missing, i dont know if your system can run xen
[08:39] <WhiteRook> intel core i7 should have vt-x
[08:39] <fas> no vt_x and it actually IS intel
[08:39] <iceroot> fas: the manpage is saying its working without vt-x
[08:39] <fas> cool
[08:40] <WhiteRook> when enabling vt-x in VM it tells me its locked (BIOS i assume?)
[08:40] <subdesign> dr_willis, how to uninstall an app installed this way: http://bit.ly/14ye5ac ?
[08:40] <iceroot> WhiteRook: maybe
[08:40] <iceroot> WhiteRook: have a look at the bios
[08:42] <dr_willis> subdesign:  rerun the .run thing and see if it has an uninstaller
[08:42] <subdesign> thx
[08:43] <dr_willis> whatever.run --help      may give some info also
[08:46] <fig> is dell still making ubuntu laptops?
[08:47] <subdesign> dr_willis, meantime found offical uninstall commands
[08:47] <dr_willis> it pays to read the docs. ;)
[08:47] <reiligha> Hi. I'm messing around in an attempt to learn linux, and I'm having trouble with echo. When I echo a - protocol it just echos all the things (IE <echo -e /a Alert!> returns <-e /a Alert!>, annoyingly)
[08:48] <reiligha> Er, sorry, it returns /a Alert!, not the -e
[08:48] <dr_willis> reiligha:  /a is supposed to do a beep? thats normaly disabled by a  a lot of disrtos who blacklist the pcspker module
[08:49] <reiligha> Oh, I didn't know that, I thought I was doing it wrong. I'll try some other /stuff. Thanks!
[08:49] <dr_willis> ive never noticed tbe -e option to echo. ;)
[08:50] <reiligha> dr_willis I'm not sure if it's supposed to beep or what, the manual just says that it does an alert. I was curious as to what that means.
[08:50] <reiligha> dr_willis Also, the manual is very wrong about what typing <echo --help> will do.
[08:50] <dr_willis> no idea.. id skip it and move to the nect chapter.  the book may be outdated.. o
[08:51] <reiligha> dr_willis I'm just doing <man echo>
[08:51] <dr_willis> i thought echo was a bash builtin.
[08:51] <reiligha> I'm pretty sure it is, based on the other stuff I'm reading.
[08:52] <reiligha> But I'm pretty newbie so I'm likely to be wrong and break my stuff.
[08:52] <dr_willis> manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/echo.1.html
[08:52] <hexy> Hey, anyone know of a stable desktop automation utility? I tried autokey but it keeps crashing.
[08:52] <dr_willis> see the 'note:'  -
[08:53] <dr_willis> bash  has its own echo builtin i think.
[08:53] <dr_willis> #bash channel may be able to tell you more.
[08:54] <reiligha> dr_willis Thank you.
[08:55] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/27355/how-do-i-get-help-for-echo-or-other-bash-commands
[08:55] <dr_willis> bash does have a echo builtin
[08:56] <hexy> Anyone know of a stable desktop automation utility? I tried autokey but it keeps crashing.
[08:57] <dr_willis> !info autokey
[08:58] <dr_willis> hexy:  what are you trying to do exaxtly?
[08:58] <iceroot> hexy: i am using "xdotool" maybe there is also a gui for it. its coming directly from the x-server
[08:58] <hexy> !autokey-gtk
[08:59] <dr_willis> !info autokey-gtk
[08:59] <hexy> Lol, yeah I forgot the info
[08:59] <BillyZane2> hi dr_willis!
[08:59] <BillyZane2> u are my hero, you know that?
[09:00] <hexy> dr_willis:  I am trying to download this huge list of videos which takes a few minutes per download and I don't want to sit and to it manually
[09:00] <hexy> iceroot: Will check that, thanks.
[09:01] <WhiteRook> so BIOS had vt x disabled - how ridiculous
[09:01] <WhiteRook> now i have to re mount the ISO on my virtual drive
[09:01] <iceroot> WhiteRook: :) its the same on my dell notebook, disbaled by default :(
[09:02] <WhiteRook> or maybe not
[09:03] <WhiteRook> had to set 3 second boot delay just to have a chance to enter bios
[09:06] <odt> hey, is there a known issue with cifs mounts on raring with 3.8 kernel?
[09:07] <odt> Jan 31 10:56:43 server kernel: [ 7755.524033] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[09:07] <somsip> !13.04 | odt
[09:07] <odt> thanks
[09:10] <Guest64524> cant get wifi drivers in a wubi install, any thoughts?
[09:10] <WhiteRook> wow - ubuntu is flying on this new system even in a VM
[09:11] <WhiteRook> you should be able to
[09:11] <Guest64524> no tethering option either
[09:12] <WhiteRook> wlan card model?
[09:13] <Guest64524> broadcom
[09:14] <Guest64524> whoops dell wireless
[09:14] <WhiteRook> OS currently running?
[09:16] <Guest64524> think i may have solved it
[09:18] <Guest64524> can i install ubuntus sta driver without net
[09:20] <subdesign> im totally lost. have no toolbar and launcher..
[09:29] <danske> anyone use redshift?
[09:30] <llutz> !anyone | danske
[09:31] <danske> !anyone
[09:31] <danske> !details
[09:31] <danske> !gq
[09:31] <danske> !poll
[09:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> please pm the bot and do it there
[09:31] <adamlis> W
[09:32] <adamlis> Is this a valid command? rsync --dry-run -pav backup-lokal@adress.se:/var/www/site.se/application/xx/ /media/backup/xx/
[09:32] <adamlis> would htat work with dry run?
[09:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> -n is the same as --dry-run I think
[09:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> i'd try it and see what it says
[09:32] <adamlis> but did I put the syntax on the right place RaTTuS|BIG ?
[09:32] <llutz> adamlis: -a  includes -p, it should run
[09:33] <adamlis> llutz: I want it to dry-run
[09:33] <llutz> adamlis: rsync -nav ...
[09:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes it will dry run though I tend to use -van to check and -va to tell me whats it doing
[09:34] <adamlis> llutz: rsync -pav backup-lokal@dxxr.se:/var/www/xxs.se/application/orders/ /media/backup/orders/
[09:37] <adamlis> llutz: I mean rsync -nav backup-lokal@dxxr.se:/var/www/xxs.se/application/orders/ /media/backup/orders/
[09:37] <adamlis> copied the wrong thing
[10:01] <yunfan> hi, i just got a chromebook(the 245USD one), someone said i can install a ubuntu-core-armhf on it , and then add those softwares that i need, i have downloaded it, but how can i install that tarball?
[10:02] <somsip> yunfan: this link but it implies this is still alpha http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/arm-chrubuntu-1204-alpha-1-now.html
[10:04] <Italyne> Hello
[10:05] <yunfan> somsip: well, that's what i talk about
[10:06] <Italyne> I have some question about John The Ripper install , can any help me?
[10:07] <chaz68> OK... setting up 12.10 server in VM with bridging in VMware.... Been playing with the network settings.  Have local ping but no Internet... What am I forgetting about..?
[10:08] <fedor> hi there, when i installed u12.04 on my drives i used 7 gb for root 3 gb for swap(bcz i have 3gb Ram) and 100 for other files. approx 90 gb of space for files is available. However i cannot watch movies where buffering is needed for example files of more than 600Mb in size. What can i do to make my PC utilize space i spared for files (100gb)?
[10:08] <yunfan> somsip: somsip what i need is offline install
[10:11] <Italyne> I have some question about John The Ripper install , can any help me?
[10:12] <fedor> i guess it is not the right time for questions. So many people online and no one answers. Am i beein' selfish?
[10:13] <Italyne> :)
[10:13] <Italyne> true
[10:13] <Italyne> I read and watch a lot of tut's how to install it .. but still doesnt work
[10:14] <iceroot> fedor: i dont get what you really want to ask
[10:14] <iceroot> timfrost: and in your "question" i cant find usefull details
[10:14] <iceroot> timfrost: wrong nick
[10:14] <iceroot> Italyne: see above
[10:15] <fedor> hi there, when i installed u12.04 on my drives i used 7 gb for root 3 gb for swap(bcz i have 3gb Ram) and 100 for other files. approx 90 gb of space for files is available. However i cannot watch movies where buffering is needed for example files of more than 600Mb in size. What can i do to make my PC utilize space i spared for files (100gb)?
[10:15] <iceroot> fedor: i still dont get what you want
[10:15] <iceroot> fedor: you can repeat your question 10 times
[10:16] <iceroot> fedor: you are talking about partition layout and asking why your movies cant be watched
[10:17] <chaz68> This fixed my problem:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[10:17] <fedor> u see, when u want to watch movies online browser needs to buffer what u want to see. What i mean is that cpu is buffering video saving chunks to be watched in the root. My rootspace is limited. When the limit is reached i can no more watch it
[10:17] <Italyne> iceroot,  what you mean see above ?  Where above ?
[10:17] <chaz68> fedor:  I would tell you to make a much bigger drive than 7GB for your OS install if you are using 12.04...
[10:18] <chaz68> of course that's the easy answer...
[10:18] <fedor> no kiddin' there.
[10:18] <iceroot> Italyne: directly above, i just picked up the wrong name
[10:18] <Italyne> okey..
[10:18] <Italyne> I must wait for answer :D
[10:19] <iceroot> Italyne: there is no real question from you
[10:19] <iceroot> Italyne: just this "does anyone"... and that is not a real question so everyone here is ignoring something like that
[10:19] <chaz68> fedor:  do you have any network resources to try a net boot...?
[10:19] <Italyne> iceroot,  ok then my question will be :
[10:19] <sire> ubuntu 12.04 why cant windows exe sapi5  voices be installed on ubuntu?
[10:19] <fedor> i was advised to use 7gb of space for root, and that was given for 10.** version in the manual which i downed from the russian support site
[10:20] <Italyne> How to fix john the ripper on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:20] <iceroot> !details | Italyne
[10:20] <fedor> i am a newbie in u12.04. I only recently found out that middle button can be used to paste the highlighted text
[10:23] <kektal> I'm going crazy with my wlan asking for password whenever I just want to connect to wifi someone please help me
[10:26] <Italyne> I have problem with John The Ripper, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. When I try to decrypt some hash I get output answer: No password hashes loaded (see FAQ)..but I do everything correctly. So can any help me ?
[10:27] <Italyne> iceroot,  what you think for my question now :)
[10:27] <WhiteRookUbuntuV> ***testing XChat on Ubuntu running as guest in VM
[10:27] <Jojo_> hello guys, can someone tell me or show me how name an IP address?
[10:27] <Italyne> Jojo_,  go to url :  whatismyip.com
[10:28] <somsip> !test | WhiteRookUbuntuV
[10:28] <Italyne> Jojo_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:28] <somsip> Jojo_: you want to map a domain to an IP?
[10:29] <molqr> after a sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop .... the ability to maximize/minimize windows is lost... the menu which appears after hitting Alt-Space is not coming any more ....   can i restart the window manager? will it affect the already running programs that use X?
[10:30] <Jojo_> somsip, no, actually naming an IP address like <IP_ADDRESS>(mydomain.com)
[10:30] <dr_willis> molqr:  tey 'unity --replace &' in a terminal?
[10:30] <Jojo_> somsip, when i look up in browser, it only looks up the name of the IP
[10:30] <Italyne> I have problem with John The Ripper, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. When I try to decrypt some hash I get output answer: No password hashes loaded (see FAQ)..but I do everything correctly. So can any help me ?
[10:30] <molqr> dr_willis: much obliged.
[10:31] <molqr> will it kill the current X programs? i m running a simulation that i dont' want to lose
[10:31] <dr_willis> molqr:  then use exit in the terminal. weirrd that networking caused that.
[10:31] <Jojo_> does someone know how to name an IP address?
[10:31] <kektal> networkmanager asking for root password whenever I just want to connect to wifi or any other network, how do I stop that? org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.settings.modify.system
[10:31] <Jojo_> does someone know how to name an IP address?
[10:31] <dr_willis> molqr:  it shouldent
[10:31] <molqr> dr_willis: great!
[10:31] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  clarify what you mean
[10:32] <Italyne> Jojo_,  url :   no-ip.com   good luck
[10:32] <hXm> i have ubuntu configured with utf8, but modifing files with nano it looks as nano is not using utf8
[10:32] <hXm> where can i check this?
[10:33] <Jojo_> dr_willis, our teacher instructed to install DNS and now he wants us to give NAMES to IP ADDRESSES..
[10:33] <llutz> Jojo_: "he wants us "  not us
[10:33] <Italyne> Jojo_,  are you stuped or you cant read? go to fucking no-ip.com  url , and choice your free
[10:33] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  so you need to edit  your dns server configs.. this is a homework assignment?
[10:33] <Tm_T> Italyne: please watch your language and attitude
[10:34] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  so on a local lan. you have your own custom dns server for the local lan> and you want local lan pcs to have a name you can lookup via the dns server?
[10:34] <Italyne> Tm_T,  why?  Couse  you answer only at stuped question's?
[10:35] <hXm> is no-ip still for free?
[10:35] <karu_> I just got ubuntu and I have no idea what I'm doing
[10:35] <dr_willis> !manual | karu_
[10:35] <Jojo_> Italyne, im not talking to you , sorry for being rude!
[10:35] <Adeeb> HI -- How can I block a specific app from my computer --- linuxdc++ to be specific?
[10:35] <Italyne> hXm yes its is :)
[10:35] <Tm_T> Italyne: because our rules says so, so please
[10:35] <karu_> ty
[10:36] <Jojo_> dr_w
[10:36] <Jojo_> dr_willis, something like that sir :)
[10:36] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  so it sounds like you need to learn how to configure your dns server
[10:36] <karu_> how do I connect to another irc server
[10:36] <Jojo_> dr_willis, yes sir
[10:36] <dr_willis> karu_:  depends on your irc client
[10:36] <Italyne> Tm_T,  in my country only the sheeps follow rules. So be good sheep and answer my question? Mr.Skilled Hacker.
[10:36] <karu_> I got smuxi
[10:37] <dr_willis> most support a /server or /connect command
[10:37] <AppleJuice> Adeeb, Is it a program you wish to remove from your computer?
[10:37] <Tm_T> Italyne: if you like to continue discussion about how this channel is run, please join #ubuntu-ops but while you're on ubuntu channels you are expected to follow our rules
[10:37] <karu_> so I just type that followed by the server i want to join
[10:37] <dr_willis> karu_:  try it and see  yes...
[10:37] <dr_willis>    /server servername
[10:38] <karu_> ok ty
[10:38] <Jojo_> dr_willis, i have installed the DNS, now how can I configure it? can you help me please?
[10:38] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  configuring dns is the kind of thing theres  large BOOKS written about... its not a trivial thing.. and if this is your homework.. sounds like you n eed to go read the docs for dns.
[10:39] <Adeeb> AppleJuice : I've already removed it. The problem however is that i can re-install it, it's a distraction for me so I was wondering whether it is possible to block it for an amount of time from my computer
[10:39] <dr_willis> Adeeb:  you are trying to keep yourself from using it?
[10:39] <Adeeb> dr_willis : precisely!
[10:39] <dr_willis> Adeeb:  you do realize how strange that sounds?
[10:40] <bilel> Hi, I've installed ubuntu last week and I can't get windows + ubuntu to be bootable on my machine, on the first install, it defaulted to windows, I've then run boot repair, this time grub screen was there, but windows not bootable (only ubuntu) because of "secure boot", I've disabled it from BIOS, and ran boot repair again, and now it defaults to windows again, I don't see grub screen, what...
[10:40] <bilel> ...can I do?
[10:40] <AppleJuice> Adeeb, Joke rating: 9 out of 10 smilies.
[10:40] <Adeeb> I'm trying to fight an addiction
[10:41] <dr_willis> hang in irc all day.... thats a better addiction
[10:42] <Adeeb> I was thinking of writing a python script or smthing for doing what I need, the problem is that I will know how to stop it
[10:43] <AppleJuice> Hmmm... yes... thats tricky.
[10:44] <llutz> Adeeb: create an sudo-account for one of us, remove yourself from sudo/admin group, ask everytime you want to install/do stuff here, problem solved. ;)
[10:45] <Jojo_> dr_willis, oh, ok...thanks..highschool work sure is tough
[10:45] <dr_willis> thats why its called home work....
[10:45] <Adeeb> lltz : lol, very funny!
[10:46] <Jojo_> seat work
[10:46] <Jojo_> were doing it only on lab session in school
[10:46]  * dr_willis just tossed out  an old Book on using DNS/bind
[10:47] <llutz> Jojo_: if you already installed a dns-server, you know its name. so you start reading the man-pages/documentation for it.
[10:50] <molqr> dr_willis: thanks that worked out great. but now nm-applet won't start ... it is complaining that it can't connect to d-bus ... ... if i restart dbus will it restart X? just want to preserve my currnetly running X programs
[10:50] <dr_willis> molqr:  then i would wait a while till they are all done doing stuff then just log out/back in
[10:51] <molqr> dr_willis: ok. thanks.
[10:52] <dr_willis> you stopped networking.. so why do you nwed network manager...   ;-)
[11:05] <reiligha> When I attempt to use sudo from my standard account, it says "This incident will be reported." But when I log into my admin account, I can't figure how to determine where it's been reported too. Where do those kind of reports go?
[11:06] <tsimpson> reiligha: /var/log/auth.log
[11:06] <reiligha> tsimpson: Thank you.
[11:14] <groundnuty> hey, anuone here has asus MB and boots in uefi mode?
[11:16] <jimmy_lo> Hi all, I am building webkit, but it shows the message
[11:16] <jimmy_lo> configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0) were not met: Requested 'gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0' but version of GTK+ is 3.0.8
[11:17] <jimmy_lo> I use "sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev", but it tells me that libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version.
[11:18] <jimmy_lo> How to upgrade gtk+-3.0 to 3.4.0?
[11:18] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:25] <[twisti]> hello, im following this article: http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/how-to-install-and-configure-dropbox-on-ubuntu-server-12-04-lts/ after step "Start the dropbox and check it’s status:" i get this error "dropbox: unrecognized service". is the article wrong ? im pretty sure i followed everything correctly
[11:27] <spirit_> 请问有中国人吗。。
[11:29] <BluesKaj> !cn | spirit_
[11:30] <l057c0d3r> sigh....   k well i totaly did a number on my system
[11:30] <l057c0d3r> but i have to say... im rather happy with the outcome
[11:31] <l057c0d3r> started with a base lubuntu system..  installed gnome..  changed session to gnome/openbox.  and then run cairo-dock to replace gnome's taskbars ext..  yet keep the gnome classic application menu :-)  and i'm very happy with this setup
[11:32] <l057c0d3r> fixed the issue i was having with the messaging system in cairo-dock as well..
[11:32] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: curiosity asks for a screenshot
[11:33] <l057c0d3r> its not completely finished yet.. but i could hook you up...
[11:33] <l057c0d3r> do me a fav  wait like ten seconds and nick alert me again.. i want to see something..  just switched over from xchat to xchat-gnome..  to add it to the messaging menu.. want to see if it works like i think
[11:34] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: ok
[11:34] <inhies> is it possible to have a ppa on launchpad that will give the user 64 bit or 32 bit versinos of my package depending on their architecure automatically?
[11:35] <l057c0d3r> oh now that is soooo cool....
[11:35] <iceroot> inhies: sure
[11:35] <iceroot> inhies: that is the default
[11:35] <inhies> iceroot: cool, im just getting started so i assume one of the guides somewhere will tell me how to do that
[11:35] <inhies> just wanted to check
[11:35] <l057c0d3r> to bad i cant close it to the messaging menu like empathy...  if i close it it closes xchat..  and even if xchat is open if i click on it in the messaging menu it opens a new instance..  but not a big issue
[11:36] <iceroot> inhies: there is nothing special to do
[11:36] <iceroot> inhies: its all provided in the source-package which will tell if it is "all" or not, if it is not all, the buildsystem will create the amd64 and i386 version
[11:37] <l057c0d3r> k well i will take that screenshot and upload it for you really fast
[11:37] <iceroot> inhies: and apt-get/aptitude and so on will fetch the correct architectue version
[11:37] <inhies> iceroot: will my package be distributed as source or wtih a binary? it's written in Golang so i was hoping to provide users with my ppa detail and then they can just isntall the binary
[11:41] <jorik_> как  зарегистрироватся на руи убунту?
[11:41] <ThinkT510> !ru | jorik_
[11:42] <skorpio> hello, how can i install latest gnome-shell under 12.04?
[11:43] <ThinkT510> skorpio: you don't
[11:43] <skorpio> no way?
[11:43] <Ben64> !latest
[11:43] <Adeeb> Is it possible to block a dc hub address using SelfControl in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:43] <ThinkT510> skorpio: you can but it isn't supported
[11:44] <skorpio> ThinkT510: will it ever be?
[11:44] <ThinkT510> skorpio: no
[11:44] <Ben64> uh, pretty sure gnome-shell is in the repositories
[11:44] <Ben64> !info gnome-shell
[11:45] <ThinkT510> Ben64: it is, but he is asking for the latest on 12.04
[11:45] <l057c0d3r> so what is a good website to upload this screenshot to'
[11:45] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: imagebin.org
[11:45] <skorpio> ubottu: thank you
[11:46] <Aknot> I have ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop, what happens if i dont upgrade it? Can i only get programs which are years old?
[11:46] <Ben64> Aknot: no security updates, leaves you potentially open to attack
[11:46] <ThinkT510> Aknot: its not supported anymore
[11:48] <Aknot> But can i get for instance latest firefox from repositories?
[11:48] <l057c0d3r> here you go http://imagebin.org/244917
[11:48] <ThinkT510> Aknot: the repos are no longer available so no
[11:49] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: that does look nice
[11:49] <l057c0d3r> and remember..  this is just setup with a tiny bit of work to it..  its no where near complete.. its my start for moving away from the new gnome and unity..  and having something that just works better then lxde
[11:49] <Ben64> Aknot: you should really update, it's not going to get any better
[11:50] <Aknot> <l057c0d3r that looks wonderful, if i install latest ubuntu then gnome how can i get it to look like that?
[11:50] <l057c0d3r> i started off by installing lubuntu..  then from there installed gnome and cairo-dock.
[11:51] <l057c0d3r> then on the login screen..  select gnome/openbox for the session....
[11:51] <roasted> Question - when working with mdadm, is it bad practice to have a file system on your hard drives before adding them to the raid array? I had ext4 on both of my drives before mirroring them, but they seem to work fine (in fact I'm not even sure I set them as a raid f0 or whatever prior, but still the array is running now)
[11:51] <l057c0d3r> after that..  you will have to make cairo-dock autostart with that session..  but for first time to get the cairo-dock to show up...  press ctl-alt-t and type cairo-dock &
[11:52] <Aknot> <l057c0d3r do i also need openbox?
[11:53] <l057c0d3r> openbox comes with lubuntu....  since its an lxde/openbox session by default
[11:53] <l057c0d3r> i believe if you are using ubuntu instead of lubuntu.. you can just install gnome and cairo-dock.. and from the session menu there should be a cario-dock/gnome session as well
[11:54] <CyL> Hi, I'm readind online about setting up a ubuntu box (12.04 LTS) as a LAMP server, and there is this article on how to do it using tasksel, however it is outdated (written for 10.04). I'd like to know if this is still a safe and easy approach.
[11:54] <l057c0d3r> my main reason for using gnome over lxde for this setup.. was the fact the gnome menu is better....  just works better then the lxde menu...
[11:55] <l057c0d3r> Aknot, and you can do a lot more with it then i have in this picture.... this is almost a base install setup...
[11:55] <chuxxsss> Hi all
[11:56] <l057c0d3r> well i'll probably be back in a min.. going to log off and check a few things..  make sure everything is working like i think it is
[11:56] <nazmulwanted> hi to all
[11:58] <judgen> Sorry to ask what might be a stupid question. I know that Unity depends on gnome bits and pieces. But what parts of unity warrants the dependency of Qt?
[11:59] <judgen> Do not get me wrong, i do not mind having Qt, quite the opposite. But why can not the entirety of unity been done in one toolkit?
[12:00] <FlowRiser> judgen, kde is done in qt; Whereas unity+compiz support qt, but don't actually depend on it.
[12:00] <nep1x> hi buddies! which is for you a good RSS/Atom reader for ubuntu?
[12:00] <FlowRiser> judgen, if you want a Qt Desktop, get kubuntu
[12:00] <judgen> nep1x: but if you install unity package it also pulls in Qt?
[12:01] <FlowRiser> judgen, what distro do you have ?
[12:01] <judgen> precise
[12:01] <FlowRiser> judgen, might be it does so for the unity-2d which is done in Qt
[12:01] <opalepatrick> anyone else see unity dash and launcher under/behind startup programmes etc? Need to logout and back to get it to act normally
[12:01] <FlowRiser> it is unsupported as of 12.10
[12:01] <judgen> so it is all gtk now?
[12:02] <FlowRiser> judgen, i'm not sure actually, might be so, but i hear they are looking into something else :D
[12:04] <kostkon> judgen, it isn't realistic to expect the whole desktop to be written in one toolkit. Anyway, it's just the qt deps you have on your system and not the KDE ones. There are a lot of qt apps. Just try to avoid installing KDE apps, there aren't many anyway, and you should be fine?
[12:04] <kostkon> judgen, e.g. the U1 client is a qt app.
[12:04] <judgen> ok
[12:06] <jimmy_lo> I use ubuntu 11.04, I am building webkit, but it shows the messag: configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0) were not met: Requested 'gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0' but version of GTK+ is 3.0.8. I use "sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev", but it tells me that libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version.
[12:06] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: 11.04 is no longer supported
[12:07] <jimmy_lo> So I have to manually download and build it
[12:07] <Ben64> no, you need to upgrade
[12:07] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: to get support you need to be using a supported release
[12:07] <jrib> jimmy_lo: no, you should upgrade your ubuntu version to a supported one (12.04 or 12.10)
[12:08] <jimmy_lo> You mean upgrade ubuntu to 11.10 or higher
[12:08] <jimmy_lo> 12.04
[12:08] <Ben64> support for 11.04 ended in October 2012, so you haven't gotten any security updates since then
[12:08] <jrib> jimmy_lo: yes, though 11.10 will only have support until april, so I'd suggest going to at least 12.04 at this point
[12:08] <jimmy_lo> OMG, I didn't notice that
[12:08] <bilel> Hi, I've installed ubuntu last week and I can't get windows + ubuntu to be bootable on my machine, on the first install, it defaulted to windows, I've then run boot repair, this time grub screen was there, but windows not bootable (only ubuntu) because of "secure boot", I've disabled it from BIOS, and ran boot repair again, and now it defaults to windows again, I don't see grub screen, what...
[12:08] <bilel> ...can I do?
[12:08] <Ben64> if you don't like updating, go to 12.04, you only need to upgrade every 2 years with LTS
[12:08] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: the support schedules are clear
[12:09] <jimmy_lo> OK, thank you all
[12:10] <jimmy_lo> Wait a minute, so that's why it tells me that libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version.
[12:11] <jimmy_lo> so apt-get won't get anything new?
[12:11] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: 11.04 is from april 2011, it was likely the newest back then, the repos obviously have older software if you are using an older release
[12:11] <jimmy_lo> ;(
[12:20] <myrmidette> hello, what is a good way to transfer a single large file between two linux boxes on an unreliable connection?
[12:20] <Ben64> rsync
[12:21] <myrmidette> I tried that and it starts over if it gets interrupted :(
[12:21] <myrmidette> perhaps I was using it wrong?
[12:22] <ericus> Hey! I'm trying to set up a PPTP-VPN server, anyone with experience in doing that?
[12:24] <ericus> The connection to my VPN from my android device fails. "Initiation...", "Timeout"
[12:24] <ericus> Any log files I should have a look at?
[12:27] <TakeItEZ> ericus: sudo grep -ri pptpd /var/log/
[12:27] <CyL> Hi, I'm readind online about setting up a ubuntu box (12.04 LTS) as a LAMP server, and there is this article on how to do it using tasksel, however it is outdated (written for 10.04). I'd like to know if this is still a safe and easy approach.
[12:27] <heshanh> how do i point to another hard drive in ubuntu, it gives me the location as /media/Apps and Data/
[12:27] <ericus> Thanks TakeItEZ!
[12:27] <heshanh> but i need to use it in apache config. what do i replace the space with
[12:28] <TakeItEZ> ericus: and btw, pptp-vpn is highly insecure, you should try to use something more modern/safe (openvpn)
[12:28] <ThinkT510> heshanh: can you put it in ""
[12:28] <CyL> herton: /media/'Apps and Data'/ or /media/Apps\ and\ Data/
[12:28] <heshanh> ah
[12:28] <heshanh> thanks guys
[12:28] <thc-scripting> Hello, there are anyone can help me to write in english? (i'm italian)
[12:28] <ericus> TakeItEZ, yes I know about the insecurity, but my android phone does not allow OpenVPN
[12:28] <CyL> oops
[12:28] <ericus> IPSec is fine though
[12:29] <thc-scripting> i have translate my website in english , but i'm not sure it is corrected
[12:29] <CyL> heshanh: /media/'Apps and Data'/ or /media/Apps\ and\ Data/
[12:29] <ericus> Is that better?
[12:29] <TakeItEZ> ericus: gingerbread? update to ICS, no need for root to use openvpn anymore
[12:29] <ericus> TakeItEZ, ICS
[12:29] <GaboXandre> thc-scripting: maybe I can check the translation
[12:29] <TakeItEZ> ericus: check the playstore, there is a non-root app for android >4.0
[12:29] <iceroot> !ot | thc-scripting
[12:29] <heshanh> DocumentRoot /media/'Apps and Data'/www ?
[12:29] <Gabri> Hi, I have just recently installed ubuntu in my laptop, the fan of my computer is always working.
[12:29] <iceroot> thc-scripting: try ##english or something like that
[12:30] <thc-scripting> GaboXandre can i contact you on private?
[12:30] <ericus> TakeItEZ, oh thanks, I didn't know that
[12:30] <thc-scripting> in private*
[12:30] <TakeItEZ> ericus: "Openvpn for Android" it is
[12:30] <GaboXandre> thc-scripting: go ahead
[12:30] <Gabri> Is there anyway to optimize the ubuntu?
[12:30] <iceroot> Gabri: optimize for what?
[12:31] <Gabri> iceroot: The fan is always working
[12:31] <Gabri> although the system is in normal condition
[12:31] <iceroot> Gabri: a fan is never stopping when the system is running
[12:32] <Gabri> iceroot: I know, but it is running in full speed now
[12:32] <Gabri> iceroot: before it was not like this. (in windows era)
[12:32] <heshanh> DocumentRoot /media/'Apps and Data'/www  gives me DocumentRoot takes one argument, Root directory of the document tree
[12:32] <heshanh> Action 'configtest' failed.
[12:33] <iceroot> heshanh: /media/\ Apps\ and\ Data/www
[12:33] <Gabri> iceroot: Do you know what should I do?
[12:34] <iceroot> heshanh: but try to use normal path names instead of something like that
[12:34] <iceroot> Gabri: what is lm-sensors telling about the head?
[12:34] <Gabri> iceroot:
[12:34] <Gabri> let me see
[12:34] <heshanh> whats hte normal pather? is there  an easier way of pointing to a hard drive?
[12:34] <heshanh> path*
[12:34] <Gabri> iceroot: Should install any package?
[12:35] <Gabri> iceroot: it does not know this command
[12:35] <iceroot> Gabri: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors && sudo sensors-detect
[12:35] <iceroot> Gabri: after that you can see the fan info, heat and so on with "sensors"
[12:36] <iceroot> heshanh: its normal to avoid blanks in filenames
[12:36] <iceroot> heshanh: will always bring trouble
[12:36] <heshanh> so... rename the hard disk?
[12:37] <CyL> heshanh: You aslso could have it mounted on a mountpoint that does not have spaces in it. Ubuntu is probably using you harddrive label as th mounting point
[12:37] <iceroot> heshanh: or just quote it correctly
[12:37] <heshanh> yep, its use the label i have on windows
[12:37] <iceroot> heshanh:  i gave you an example
[12:37] <iceroot> heshanh: /media/\ Apps\ and\ Data/www
[12:37] <thc-scripting> GabrieleV sei italiano?
[12:38] <ThinkT510> !it | thc-scripting
[12:38] <heshanh> crap, i unmounted them from the left side bar and now i cant find them
[12:38] <thc-scripting> lool
[12:40] <Aknot> Anyone here use the ubuntu gnome remix? is it buggy?
[12:41] <jpds> Aknot: All software has bugs.
[12:41] <heshanh>  /media/\ Apps\ and\ Data/www does not work either
[12:41] <Aknot> jpds but compared to jsut installing ubuntu and then gnome shell from repos
[12:41] <arcsky> how do i make a user to root permissons?
[12:41] <iceroot> !sudo | arcsky
[12:42] <iceroot> heshanh: is the drive mounted at the moment?
[12:42] <ThinkT510> heshanh: is there meant to be a space before apps?
[12:42] <iceroot> heshanh: what is the output of "ls -all /media/"
[12:42] <iceroot> !paste | heshanh
[12:42] <iceroot> heshanh:  ah yes it should be /media/Apps\ and\ Data/www
[12:42] <iceroot> heshanh: just replace every space with "\ "
[12:43] <iceroot> heshanh: or quote the complete line "/media/foo bar/www"
[12:47] <heshanh> ok quoting hte fille path worked :D thanks
[12:47] <ericus> any cool ideas on machines to run in virtualbox?
[12:48] <ThinkT510> ericus: haiku, helenos, minix
[12:49] <jimmy_lo> Hi
[12:50] <k1l_> ericus: since this is a ubuntu support channel: ubuntu ;p
[12:50] <jimmy_lo> I type command: sudo apt-get install cairo. It shows: E: Unable to locate package cairo
[12:50] <fidel> ericus: this is more or less a support-channel - n ot brainstorming ;)
[12:50] <jimmy_lo> I use ubuntu 11.04
[12:50] <fidel> !info cairo
[12:50] <k1l_> !eol | jimmy_lo
[12:50] <fidel> jimmy_lo: thinking aboutthe cairo dock thing or what in particular?
[12:50] <ericus> sorry :P
[12:50] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: if you are still on 11.04 we already told you it isn't supported anymore, the repositories do not exist anymore
[12:51] <jimmy_lo> OMG, everything is gone.
[12:52] <compdoc> I think the files still exist for 11.04, but they arent updated anymore
[12:52] <heshanh> is there way to check which apache is running? link the location of. i think i have more than one installed
[12:54] <erupter> Hi. Problem: I need to give two users write access to a folder on a machine, and have it propagated via NFS. Currently the original owner of the folder obviously has write access. The other user, has correctly mounted the NFS but has only read access.
[12:54] <heshanh> because even after i kill apache2 i can still view localhost
[12:54] <k1l_> compdoc: that is mentioned in the wiki articles. but recommended is to go to an supported release anyway
[12:54] <fidel> heshanh: you might start with: apt-cache policy apache2 - which will tell you the installed version via apt & the available in apt
[12:54] <erupter> I tried following some tutorials about adding users to groups and changing properties, but so far I only managed to eliminate read access not grant write access to the other user.
[12:55] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: any reason why you haven't got a supported release (please don't say you miss gnome2 or dislike unity)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> jimmy_lo, http://www.warpconduit.net/2011/07/31/apt-repository-for-old-ubuntu-releases/
[12:56] <heshanh> this is what i got from apt-cache http://pastie.org/5985678
[12:57] <heshanh> i also cant add files to the /var/www folder. i was going to do a phpinfo and see if it shows me anypaths for apache and php. but cant create any files
[12:57] <fidel> heshanh: do you understand the output?
[12:57] <heshanh> not really, if i'd have to guess theres 2 apache versions?
[12:59] <jhutchins_wk> heshanh: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:59] <heshanh> 12.04
[13:03] <fidel> heshanh: the output tells you that: you have the latest version. thats one info
[13:04] <bizhanMona> HI does ubuntu  support "hald" daemon? thx
[13:04] <fidel> if you havent heavily messed around and limited yourself on using apt only to install software - its highly unlikely that you have > 1 apapche version installed
[13:04] <fidel> heshanh: my next test would be stopping apache via: sudo service apache2 stop - and then check the running processes
[13:04] <jhutchins_wk> heshanh: Apache2 has been current since 2000.  1.3 is still available, but very few distributions release it.
[13:05] <jhutchins_wk> heshanh: If you have shut it down correctly, and ps ax does not show it running, you may have installed something else like ngenix
[13:05] <fidel> yep
[13:05] <Guest24813> Hi, Does anybody know why the fan rotates too fast when the system is normal condition?
[13:06] <heshanh> ok now its dead!
[13:06] <heshanh> i did /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, but that didnt work
[13:07] <TakeItEZ> !upstart | heshanh apache is an upstart-job
[13:07] <compdoc> heshanh, is there a files named apache2 in /etc/init.d/ ?
[13:07] <compdoc> *file
[13:07] <Guest24813> Hi, Does anybody know why the fan rotates too fast when the system is normal condition?
[13:08] <heshanh> thers a folder....
[13:08] <heshanh> im sure there are all noob questions. this is my first day on ubuntu.
[13:09] <compdoc> there is a file named /etc/init.d/apache2  - my bad
[13:09] <Ben64> heshanh: "service apache2 start" or "service apache2 stop"
[13:10] <heshanh> what exactly does etc stands for?
[13:10] <heshanh> and /var
[13:10] <heshanh> var -> variables?
[13:11] <TakeItEZ> heshanh: "etc ~ etcetera" historical "all other data" now "configs for most things"
[13:11] <TakeItEZ> heshanh: var ~ variable data
[13:11] <jimmy_lo> ThinkT510, I am going to upgrading ubuntu tomorrow. Thank you for help.
[13:11] <ThinkT510> !fhs | heshanh
[13:12] <heshanh> i see...
[13:12] <modris> i test ubuntu server 12.04 with ssd + hdd, and lvm snapshoots.
[13:13] <heshanh> also.. why cant i save any files i open inside /etc or /var. do i have to also do sudo gedit path? or is there way to open with sudo from the gui ?
[13:13] <ThinkT510> !gksudo | heshanh
[13:14] <TakeItEZ> heshanh: a user shouldn't write anywhere except hist $HOME and /tmp, all other locations need sudo/gksudo (root-rights)
[13:14] <TakeItEZ> s/hist/his/
[13:14] <modris> i'm newbie at lvm, Q: is possible create vg with ssd and hdd pv that hdd has full snapshoot from ssd for example after every 10min and if ssd crash at all i can get all back?
[13:15] <a_c_m> Hi, over the last few days several servers have had their disks go into "Read-only file system" mode
[13:15] <heshanh> oh man thank u so much. thats gona save so much time
[13:15] <a_c_m> any idea why this might happen?
[13:16] <ThinkT510> a_c_m: how old are the disks?
[13:16] <a_c_m> and a way to fix it (reboot does, but these are production boxes and i don't want to see this happen again)
[13:16] <a_c_m> ThinkT510: its a cloud system
[13:16] <Brittany> Trying to get a third party playstation controller working with ubuntu.. it's labelled 'snakebyte' and is a wired controller. anybody have any good ideas? There doesn't seem to be any specific support.
[13:16] <compdoc> a_c_m, a problem with the disk. open the disk utility and look at the drives health and SMART
[13:16] <a_c_m> so not sure
[13:16] <a_c_m> compdoc: its a cloud vps - so isn't a physical disk
[13:16] <mojtaba> Hi, I have recently installed ubuntu 12.10 and the fan of the laptop is going to be exploded. Does anybody know what should I do?
[13:17] <ThinkT510> a_c_m: it is a physical disk, its just under somebody elses control
[13:17] <compdoc> a_c_m, switching to read-only is an option in /etc/fstab
[13:17] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba: Take cover?
[13:17] <compdoc> a_c_m, maybe disable it
[13:17] <mojtaba> jhutchins_wk: what do you mean?
[13:18] <usr13> mojtaba: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/hardware/C/laptops.html
[13:18] <modris> i'm newbie at lvm, Q: is possible create vg with ssd and hdd pv that hdd has full snapshoot from ssd for example after every 10min and if ssd crash at all i can restore new ssd data back? link to explain may help
[13:19] <usr13> mojtaba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[13:19] <jhutchins_wk> a_c_m: That's a known problem with virtual systems.  The disk goes read-only when an error is encountered so that it won't be damaged by trying to write to it.
[13:19] <mojtaba> usr13: That does not contain the issue.
[13:19] <jhutchins_wk> a_c_m: You should be able to remount it rw.
[13:20] <usr13> mojtaba: What is your issue?
[13:20] <jhutchins_wk> a_c_m: We just run a monitoring program that detects when that happens so we can correct it.
[13:20] <a_c_m> jhutchins_wk: thanks, i'm opening a support ticket with the host now
[13:20] <mojtaba> usr13: first, the fan is rotating in full speed, and the battery life is short.
[13:20] <mojtaba> :)
[13:20] <usr13> mojtaba: Look at BIOS settings.
[13:21] <mojtaba> usr13: what should I look for?
[13:21] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba: Do you have cpufreq installed? If not install it and read the docs, it should help you throttle the system back.
[13:22] <mojtaba> jhutchins_wk: Actually, I did not have this problem in windows; I do not know why in linux this has happned!
[13:22] <usr13> mojtaba: The two links I gave you have information related to your issue, I suggest you follow those links and see.
[13:22] <mojtaba> usr13: I will. Thanks
[13:22] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba: Windows fails in different ways than linux does.
[13:23] <mojtaba> jhutchins_wk: could you please explain more?
[13:23] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba: Follow the links usr13 gave you, that should explain.
[13:26] <a_c_m> thanks jhutchins_wk :)
[13:26] <a_c_m> jhutchins_wk++
[13:26] <mojtaba> usr13: sorry, but where is system in unity?
[13:27] <mmgc84> My Secret Maryo Chronicles ISNOT working on Xubuntu 1210 x(
[13:28] <madaramost> hi
[13:28] <madaramost> anyone
[13:28] <madaramost> ?
[13:29] <k1l_> !ask | madaramost
[13:30] <mmgc84> !patience
[13:30] <ThinkT510> !msgthebot | mmgc84
[13:33] <madaramost> ok I have prob wiht ubuntu/ment whene I open & work  just a few mins it spot to working
[13:34] <ThinkT510> madaramost: mint isn't supported here
[13:34] <madaramost> ok generally QU
[13:35] <k1l_> !mint | madaramost
[13:35] <k1l_> since mints uses other drivers and other desktops please see their support
[13:35] <madaramost> what about ubuntu?
[13:36] <madaramost> I have 12.10lts
[13:36] <k1l_> madaramost: can you pastebin a "lsb_release -a"?
[13:36] <ThinkT510> madaramost: 12.10 is not lts
[13:38] <usr13> mojtaba  /sys/devices/system/
[13:38] <madaramost> yeah sorry it is not
[13:38] <madaramost> 12.04
[13:39] <kracekumar> I installed squid3 and followed https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html, when I telnet to particular 3128 Get connection refused
[13:40] <kracekumar> !ubottu
[13:42] <yogeshwaran> hi
[13:42] <zykotick9> Brittany: when you plug the gamepad in, do you get a /dev/input/js0 appearing?
[13:42] <yogeshwaran> i need help installing ubuntu on a windows 8 laptop
[13:43] <yogeshwaran> anyonw there ?
[13:43] <yogeshwaran> hi all  !!
[13:43] <TakeItEZ> kracekumar: check "sudo lsof -i :3128",   does it listen at all?
[13:44] <fidel> !ask | yogeshwaran
[13:44] <yogeshwaran> @fidel | How to install ubuntu on a UEFI enabled laptop woth win 8 ?
[13:45] <yogeshwaran> @ubottu : ok :-)
[13:45] <fidel> yogeshwaran: first of all - ask the channel as long as it is a general thing. second:
[13:45] <fidel> !details | yogeshwaran
[13:45] <fidel> what have you tried/where is the problem....
[13:46] <kracekumar> TakeItEZ, No output , but quid3 start/pre-start, process 7805
[13:46] <kracekumar> but ps aux | grep 7805 doesn't show the process
[13:46] <TakeItEZ> kracekumar: check logs (sudo grep -ri squid /var/log/) for errors
[13:46] <yogeshwaran> I'm scared that I will lose my windows..i've read some horror stories of ppl who lost windows 8 after installing ubuntu.
[13:47] <yogeshwaran> are there any special precautions i need to take
[13:47] <szx> the manpages for getsockopt/setsockopt don't list available options, is this an Ubuntu issue?
[13:47] <pokkerface> ubuntu 12.10 unity 6.2 , how to show windows of the app when hovering over the icon in the launcher???
[13:47] <ThinkT510> !uefi | yogeshwaran
[13:47] <fidel> yogeshwaran: i havent tried dual-setup with win8 myself so far - best regarding fighting your fear is 'run a backup' before you start freeing space for ubuntu & continue to install it
[13:48] <kracekumar> TakeItEZ, /var/log/kern.log:Jan 31 14:47:49 aadukalam kernel: [6593385.319082] init: squ
[13:48] <kracekumar> id3 main process (8059) terminated with status 127
[13:48] <kracekumar> /var/log/kern.log:Jan 31 14:47:49 aadukalam kernel: [6593385.319107] init: squ
[13:48] <kracekumar> id3 main process ended, respawning
[13:49] <yogeshwaran> Ok ..thanks guys .. I'll check out the link and also take a backup before attempting anything adventurous
[13:49] <pokkerface> ubuntu 12.10 unity 6.2 , how to show windows of the app when hovering over the icon in the launcher???
[13:49] <compdoc> yogeshwaran, remove the hdd containing windows, pop in an ssd or laptop drive, and install linux. easy
[13:49] <fidel> !repeat | pokkerface
[13:50] <TakeItEZ> kracekumar: sounds like it fails to start, check configs again and try. sorry i don't know much about squid, so i can't really help you
[13:50] <yogeshwaran> @compdoc : i already have 32 gb of SSD in my laptop
[13:50] <kracekumar> TakeItEZ, Thanks
[13:53] <foolsh> kracekumar: make sure the cache directory exists and is initialized.  An easy way to do this is to install Webmin and look under the squid section there
[13:53] <TakeItEZ> !webmin
[13:53] <kracekumar> foolsh, any other alternates for squid, does varnish help ?
[13:54] <expert_> hey guys how to kill a not responding program?
[13:54] <TakeItEZ> bot, wake up
[13:54] <TakeItEZ> expert_: pkill progname
[13:54] <zykotick9> expert_: you've got choices: kill, killall, xkill (and others)
[13:55] <foolsh> kracekumar: I've only ever used squid
[13:55] <kracekumar> foolsh, ok
[13:55] <expert_> thanks guys
[13:56] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! i attached 2 monitor on my graphics board. now i see same thing on both display. howto set the extend, not cloned mode?
[13:56] <OrgMental> MoL0ToV, what version of windows are you using?
[13:57] <MoL0ToV> ubuntu 12.10
[13:57] <MoL0ToV> sorry, xubuntu
[13:57] <OrgMental> ops, wrong window :)
[13:57] <MoL0ToV> so xfce
[13:58] <Husar> Hi, i trying to connect my Nikon camera as MassStorage,  and get "hub 6-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" (it was working 2weeks ago :() - fix from google do not work - any suggestions?
[13:58] <OrgMental> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa
[13:59] <MoL0ToV> tnx
[13:59] <shadow98> http://pastebin.com/RDd94n0q
[14:00] <juragan3> yo
[14:02] <ggherdov> Hi all. a couple of questions: (1) what is the Desktop Environment closest to Gnome 2 I can have on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ? (2) What is the cleanest way to unstall Unity and replace it with said desktop environment?
[14:02] <ThinkT510> ggherdov: xfce is great, don't remove unity
[14:03] <ThinkT510> ggherdov: also gnome3 has a fallback mode
[14:04] <mahem1> #kabbadi-in-canada
[14:04] <ggherdov> ThinkT510: xfce isn't close enough to Gnome 2 for me. What I need more than everything is the upper panel, with system monitors for RAM, network, disk, system load. And Unity cannot run on my system: it's a virtualbox with very limited RAM and no graphic acceleration
[14:05] <shadow98> http://pastebin.com/tKqBTi2d
[14:05] <nuxninja> ggherdov
[14:05] <ggherdov> nuxninja: yes
[14:05] <nuxninja> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[14:05] <ThinkT510> ggherdov: i'm saying don't remove unity if it is already installed, it will leave a mess, i'm not saying you must use unity
[14:05] <Ben64> ggherdov: gnome fallback mode then, install gnome-panel and it should bring in everything you need for it
[14:06] <ggherdov> ThinkT510: understood. nuxninja , Ben64: thanks
[14:06] <ThinkT510> ggherdov: there are good plugins for xfce panels too
[14:06] <Ben64> not good enough, i wanted the same as ggherdov
[14:06] <ggherdov> ThinkT510: will check that, thankyou for the heads up
[14:07] <Ben64> theres no other panel that matches the cpu and ram system monitors
[14:07] <nuxninja> Ben64 agree you read my mid
[14:07] <nuxninja> mind
[14:08] <ggherdov> Ben64: The amount of memory leaks in my code that I debugged with those monitors, without even firing up valgrind... :-)
[14:10] <shadow98> rsync -n /home/brian/Desktop/ /run/user/bria
[14:10] <shadow98> n/gvfs/dav:host=www.box.com,ssl=true,user=briant97%40yahoo.com,prefix=%2Fdav/Desktop/
[14:10] <shadow98> skipping directory .
[14:10] <FloodBot1> shadow98: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:10] <shadow98> i tried floodbot
[14:10] <shadow98> anybody have any ideas on why it would skip that directory
[14:10] <TakeItEZ> shadow98: use rsynx -nx
[14:11] <shadow98> TakeItEZ: same thing
[14:11] <shadow98> skipping directory
[14:11] <shadow98> that directory does not exist on the other end yet
[14:11] <shadow98> so not sure why it is skipping
[14:12] <TakeItEZ> shadow98: .gvfs (gnome virtual filesystem) is very special. do you want it being included?
[14:13] <shadow98> yeah that is where my webdav folder is located
[14:13] <shadow98> that is the only path i know to it
[14:18] <shadow98> TakeItEZ: any ideas?
[14:18] <TakeItEZ> shadow98: sry no
[14:19] <TakeItEZ> shadow98: i'm not using gnome, but isn't the real path ~/.gvfs? "ls -la ~/.gvfs/"
[14:21] <vimerrrrrrr> hi, anyone help me. my ubuntu 12.04 has to wait for network configuration for 2 minutes when boot up.
[14:22] <shadow98> /home/brian/.gvfs/: No such file or directory
[14:22] <iceroot> vimerrrrrrr: because you have setup something in /etc/network/interfaces and you are not controlling it with network-manager
[14:22] <shadow98> turn slow network boot off
[14:22] <shadow98> :)
[14:23] <vimerrrrrrr> iceroot, no it only has lo in interface
[14:23] <vimerrrrrrr> i tried the var/run link way, i left only lo in interface, and delete dbus files, no avail
[14:25] <shadow98> TakeItEZ: http://pastebin.com/RASBQapf
[14:25] <shadow98> check that out
[14:26] <RollinV2> i need a simple app for monitoring download and uploads over periods of time (a day to a month).. any suggestions? can be command line or gui based. thanks.
[14:27] <vimerrrrrrr> sorry but where is slow network boot conf?
[14:27] <GTAXL-iPod> RollinV2: use vnstat
[14:31] <persona24> Hey, I can't get the rm -rF/* command to work (and yes, I know what that command does). I'm running it as root. I don't understand why it won't work
[14:32] <martin___> persona24: What error message do you get ?
[14:32] <persona24> rm: invalid option -- 'F'
[14:32] <persona24> Try `rm --help' for more information.
[14:32] <TakeItEZ> persona24: man rm
[14:33] <GTAXL-iPod> I would'nt do that if I were you...
[14:33] <TakeItEZ> persona24: hint: linux systems are case sensitive
[14:33] <GTAXL-iPod> sudo rm -rf /
[14:33] <AppleJuice> Dont do it!!!
[14:33] <persona24> TakeItEZ: I tried it with a lowercase F and it still did nothing
[14:34] <k1l> persona24: see the manpage and read about preserve root. besides i dont see a issue for that command
[14:34] <TakeItEZ> persona24: f /     add a space
[14:34] <k1l> TakeItEZ: its perserve root in ubuntu
[14:34] <persona24> Alright, I'll try that command, if I don't comment back you know it worked haha
[14:35] <masoudd> masochism
[14:36] <vimerrrrrrr> hi, please anybody help with the boot up problem.
[14:36] <GTAXL-iPod> error is?
[14:37] <vimerrrrrrr> boot without full network configuration
[14:37] <vimerrrrrrr> I need to wait for 2 minutes every time
[14:37] <GTAXL-iPod> ahhhh
[14:37] <GTAXL-iPod> is it the desktop version?
[14:37] <vimerrrrrrr> yes! 12.04 lys
[14:37] <vimerrrrrrr> lts
[14:38] <GTAXL-iPod> are you using wifi?
[14:38] <vimerrrrrrr> no wired
[14:38] <GTAXL-iPod> hm
[14:38] <jhutchins_wk> vimerrrrrrr: How did you set up your networking?
[14:38] <vimerrrrrrr> lo only
[14:39] <vimerrrrrrr> no eth0 and wlan0 in interface
[14:39] <GTAXL-iPod> lo only is loopback
[14:39] <GTAXL-iPod> ok
[14:39] <GTAXL-iPod> so the computer has wlan?
[14:39] <GTAXL-iPod> so it has a wifi adapter
[14:40] <vimerrrrrrr> any other configurations that I miss?  I hard blocked my wifi on my computer
[14:40] <GTAXL-iPod> maybe disable the wifi adapter, and only use wired might speed the loading time up
[14:40] <GTAXL-iPod> vimerrrrrrr: the network thing shows on mine too
[14:41] <jhutchins_wk> vimerrrrrrr: What did you use to configure your networking?
 im not sure what u mean  Im newbie in ubuntu
[14:41] <miebster_atwork> I'm using kubuntu 12.10, I am seeing a warning every time I source bashrc, the warning is from a line that is included with the install ( I didn't add it) http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:42] <jhutchins_wk> vimerrrrrrr: What did you do to set up the network?
[14:42] <vimerrrrrrr> actually it seems i never have configured my networking since installation
[14:43] <vimerrrrrrr> jhutchins_wk: I havnt done any thing to my networking so far
[14:43] <Triups> One of my nics has a 50% chance of coming up as p33p2.  the other 50% of the time it comes up as rename3.  How do I stabilize this?
[14:44] <LadyNikon> wow lots of freenode spam today huh
[14:45] <ska> I just upgraded 12.04 and the microphone is no longer shows up.. Can I fix this on the commandline?
[14:46] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 starts in 14 minutes in #ubuntu-classrom
[14:47] <martin___> U
[14:47] <ska> USB device is missing.
[14:49] <martin___> If I need to find a directory but exclude /home, how do I do that easiest ? :)
[14:51] <TakeItEZ> martin___: find / -type d -not -iname '/home*' -name 'findme'
[14:51] <miebster_atwork> Something is wrong with my .bashrc file, it came this way when I installed the OS (kubuntu 12.10) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1593254/
[14:51] <vimerrrrrrr> any one using 12.04 LTS? do you have the 2-minute boot up problem?
[14:51] <martin___> Great, thx TakeItEZ :)
[14:53] <charis> Hi, today is the release of 12.04.2?
[14:54] <compdoc> charis, cool - hadnt heard that
[14:55] <k1l> charis: no
[14:55] <k1l> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[14:56] <norris900> can anyone explain this command to me, sorry im a noob "sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"
[14:58] <djBuss> Hey guys, I can use apt-cache showpkg php5-cli to see which packages i can install but how do I install the specific package?
[14:59] <charis> sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[14:59] <djBuss> charis, but it won't install the package I selected
[15:00] <vimerrrrrrr> i love ubuntu! but the 2 minute boot up is going to kill me !!!! help ! anyone!!!!!!
[15:00] <djBuss> Provides:
[15:00] <djBuss> 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1 - phpapi-20100525
[15:00] <djBuss> 5.4.6-1ubuntu1 - phpapi-20100525
[15:00] <djBuss> 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.5 - phpapi-20090626
[15:00] <djBuss> 5.3.10-1ubuntu3 - phpapi-20090626
[15:00] <FloodBot1> djBuss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <jrib> charis: apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION    but it's unusual to want to do that.  You should explain what you are trynig to do
[15:00] <jrib> djBuss: erm, that was for you ^
[15:01] <charis> When did the release slipped to February 14th?
[15:01] <djBuss> jrib, Yes, I want to have php5.3 on ubuntu 12.10
[15:01] <RollinV2> GTAXL-iPod, vnstat is perfect. thanks!
[15:01] <charis> last time i checked it was set for today
[15:01] <jrib> charis: what?
[15:01] <charis> is it because of the uefi patches?
[15:01] <jrib> charis: what release are you talking about?
[15:01] <k1l> charis: last time i checked in decembre it was 14.02.2013
[15:02] <charis> 12.04.2
[15:02] <djBuss> jrib, is it ok if I just want to have php 5.3 ?
[15:02] <apm1> i had a compositioning crash on 12.04 unity
[15:02] <charis> probably i am mistaken then :/
[15:02] <charis> sorry about that
[15:02] <jrib> djBuss: as long as you're sure security patches are being provided for it, I guess so.
[15:03] <GTAXL-iPod> np :)
[15:03] <djBuss> I'm not sure actually :d but thanks for the PACKAGE= tip
[15:05] <djBuss> jrib, should it work like this sudo apt-get install PACKAGE=5.3.10-1ubuntu3 php5-gd
[15:05] <djBuss> ?
[15:06] <Telespielstube> Hi, since I updated to ubuntu 12.04 my computer freezes every now and then.
[15:06] <jrib> djBuss: replace PACKAGE with the package name and VERSION with the version
[15:06] <djBuss> ohhhhhh right
[15:08] <djBuss> jrib, it worked thanks you
[15:11] <helmut_> hi
[15:14] <tfo> lol
[15:15] <yeehi> Does anybody know a good fitness program? For example calories eaten, burned, suggestions for different weight machines - that sort of thing...?
[15:17] <_helios_> I installed lm-sensors on my desktop to check the temp and for a PCI it's showing 6873.0C I know that has to be wrong because that would be hot enough to melt through the ground lmao
[15:18] <compdoc>  lm-sensors doesnt work with everything
[15:18] <compdoc> *every chipset
[15:18] <_helios_> compdoc: well it registers most of them correct just that one PCI it doesn't..lol
[15:19] <jhutchins_wk> _helios_: You can manually correct that.
[15:19] <_helios_> jhutchins_wk: how?
[15:21] <aminb> has anyone gotten MTP to work on 12.04?
[15:22] <fidel> !info mtp
[15:22] <aminb> I've tried EACH AND EVERY solution I could find on the net, but it doesn't work at all! :(
[15:22] <aminb> I even installed the latest version of libmtp which is libmtp1.1.5 but no use..
[15:23] <fidel> what 'mtp' are you talking about?
[15:23] <fidel> !details > aminb
[15:23] <fidel> ups - havent seen your line above sorry
[15:24] <aminb> mtp as in the protocol that android uses to transfer files
[15:24] <_helios_> jhutchins_wk: here is the http://pastebin.com/VqXtSPbv display I get how would I manualy correct this?
[15:25] <aminb> does any one have any solutions?
[15:25] <jhutchins_wk> _helios_: The documentation for lmsensors describes how the data is interpreted and explains how to alter a particular sensor's configuration.
[15:25] <theseus> anyone know why I always have to start lightdm manually when I boot into ubuntu?
[15:25] <_helios_> And where can I find the documentation for lmsensors?
[15:26] <roasted> Excluding fdisk, how would one change a partition type via terminal?
[15:26] <jhutchins_wk> aminb: Is mtp the "camera" protocol or the "mass storage"?
[15:26] <zykotick9> theseus: "sudo service lightdm start" perhaps?
[15:26] <jhutchins_wk> roasted: cfdisk.
[15:27] <theseus> zykotick9:  correct I have to do that every time I turn on my machine
[15:27] <frownface> Good morning.  Is this a good place to come for help?  Somehow, I lost ability to connect to my wireless router.  Though, I am able to connect to my cellphone tether via wireless just fine.
[15:27] <frownface> I'm confused.
[15:27] <theseus> zykotick9:  it should just start automatically
[15:27] <jhutchins_wk> theseus: Use update-rc.d, rcconf, or chkconfig to set it to start automatically.
[15:27] <zykotick9> theseus: oh, you need to add it to startup, i see.  sorry, i have no idea.
[15:28] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: none of those are upstart related... theseus
[15:28] <Tecan> is there anything to make usb/ip easier ?
[15:28] <frownface> Anyone?
[15:28] <roasted> jhutchins_wk: do you have an opinion on how that differs from sfdisk?
[15:28] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: They all work with upstart.
[15:28] <frownface> I wish I could set a beacon.
[15:28] <frownface> :)
[15:28] <frownface> LOOK, A GRAIL SHAPED BEACON
[15:28] <aminb> jhutchins_wk: well, android 4.x doesn't support mass storage any more and as far as I know, it only has the camera mode.
[15:31] <kostkon> aminb, MTP is not a camera mode, PTP is.
[15:31] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: upstart still determines what will start by the symlinkx in rc.<default>d, which are managed by those programs.
[15:32] <_helios_> jhutchins_wk: I've looked through the Documentation of lm-sensors not finding any information how to alter the output.
[15:32] <jorik_nk> как регатся?
[15:32] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: i'm a big fan of rcconf (on d) but i'm not sure i'd want to use it on ubuntu... you're probably right.
[15:32] <aminb> kostcon: actually I'm not quite sure :/ when I connect my phone to my pc, in USB options settings in the phone there are two options. It is set on the first one. I don't have it handy right now to check again. I know i have to use mtp but i couldn't get it to work
[15:32] <KxTwo> Hey guys, is it still the consensus to get 12.04 instead of 12.10?
[15:33] <aminb> kostkon: actually I'm not quite sure :/ when I connect my phone to my pc, in USB options settings in the phone there are two options. It is set on the first one. I don't have it handy right now to check again. I know i have to use mtp but i couldn't get it to work
[15:33] <jhutchins_wk> roasted: It has a c in front of it instead of an s.  I always use fdisk 'cause that's what I learned in DOS 2.x
[15:34] <aminb> any ideas people? i seriously need to get this file transfer thing working :(
[15:35] <kostkon> aminb, UMS and MTP probably
[15:35] <kostkon> aminb, or PTP and MTP, but let me give you a link
[15:35] <roasted> jhutchins_wk: fdisk doesn't fly with GPT. And now that I did more digging on sfdisk, sfdisk isn't made for GPT either. I'm reading into cfdisk now.
[15:35] <jhutchins_wk> aminb: I guess I'm still on 4.1.1 - works great for me.
[15:36] <jhutchins_wk> roasted: Ah, for gpt you need parted.
[15:36] <aminb> kostkon: yeah sure. waiting
[15:36] <kostkon> aminb, you could try this: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[15:36] <aminb> jhutchins_wk: but how did you get it to work?
[15:36] <roasted> jhutchins_wk: I looked into parted many times, but I never understood exactly how I would change the partition type.
[15:37] <jhutchins_wk> aminb: literally just plugged the phone into the PC.  It was so simple I was sure something must be wrong, but it just worked.
[15:37] <aminb> jhutchins_wk: you're so lucky then :)
[15:37] <aminb> kostkon: thanks. I'm gonna give this one a try. I'll let you know
[15:37] <kostkon> aminb, ok
[15:38] <roasted> jhutchins_wk: I assume I'm just doing it wrong. I keep getting invalid token when I try to set the partition type.
[15:39] <zykotick9> roasted: if you have access to a GUI, gparted makes creating a GPT partition "fairly" straightforward (i've never done it with parted, i really do need to learn that program)
[15:39] <roasted> zykotick9: I know GParted is such a win. I'm trying to learn the CLI equivalent since I work with headless servers from time to time.
[15:40] <zykotick9> roasted: i hear ya.  prior to gpt, i was all fdisk... now i'm "stuck" with replying on a GUI program :(..
[15:40] <BluesKaj> what's the command to find which repos contains a certain package ?
[15:40] <zykotick9> s/replying/relying/
[15:41] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: "apt-cache policy foo" then look at the url is one method
[15:41] <roasted> zykotick9: Realistically speaking, I'll likely just boot to a LiveUSB session and set the partitions up there. Then fire up the server and assemble the RAID via ssh over terminal.
[15:41] <roasted> zykotick9: but that doesn't take away from my desire to, at the very least, learn the CLI equivalent.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> dpkg -l doesn't  list all
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ok zykotick9 thanks
[15:42] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: sorry, i may have misunderstood your question
[15:44] <BluesKaj> no , zykotick9 that command works :)
[15:45] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, , i should have remembered , but my memory leaves gaps over time
[15:46] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: oh how i wish i could remember half of what i've forgotten ;)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> it's a bummer at my age ..I'll add that to my cli-commands text file
[15:48] <Viral> can someone help me get the tty1-6 working?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> heh , it's already there , I didn't think it was listed
[15:48] <Viral> or, get them to show up on my screen
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt +f1-6
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Viral, ^
[15:49] <Viral> yeah, I know how to get to them. but nothing displays. however I can still login and type in commands
[15:49] <aminb> kostkon: thanks! it DID work!! however, it didn't work with rhythmbox. Isn't there a solution for that? :/ or a better way to sync music?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> nothing is suppoed to display except the login prompt
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Viral,^
[15:50] <Viral> I know that?
[15:50] <Viral> literally nothing shows
[15:50] <zykotick9> Viral: did they ever work?  are you using nvidia/ati?  did you try to change the resolution?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> so you don't see the  prompt
[15:51] <kostkon> aminb, nice. hmm, strange. in rhythmbox try the menu option Music → Scan Removable Media
[15:51] <Viral> zykotick9,  yes they worked before I installed nvidia display drivers
[15:51] <zykotick9> Viral: from nvidia.com?
[15:51] <Viral> zykotick9, correct
[15:51] <kostkon> aminb, to force it to do a new scan
[15:51] <zykotick9> Viral: good luck then.  don't reply to me futher.
[15:52] <Viral> 0/2 for useful help. great!!
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Viral, didn't the additional drivers work ?
[15:52] <aminb> kostkon: will give it a try. I'll be back and i'll msg you
[15:52] <kostkon> aminb, k
[15:54] <angs> is there any tool on ubuntu to transfer a file via serial connection, something like scp?
[15:55] <jim8888> im having trouble getting a listing of my partitions in MiB... does somebody know a command to do this?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> jim8888, sudo fdisk -l
[15:56] <BluesKaj> jim8888, or df -h
[15:56] <jim8888> BluesKaj: unfortunately that only shows me sectors or cylinders
[15:56] <compdoc> df -h
[15:56] <jim8888> BluesKaj: and i dont have the disks mounted so df -h does not help...
[15:57] <compdoc> gparted?
[15:57] <compdoc> parted?
[15:57] <jim8888> compdoc: and gparted lists them in sectors and GiB - no MiB!!
[15:57] <jim8888> compdoc: parted only has MB - not MiB ...
[15:58] <jim8888> its very frustrating
[15:58] <compdoc> how about disk utility? thats about the only one left
[15:58] <BluesKaj> jim8888, do your drives show up in nautilus places
[15:58] <roasted> Can someone explain alignment to me? I'm not sure I understand what it means, exactly. Let's say we'
[15:58] <compdoc> well, Im sure there are others you could install
[15:59] <roasted> Can someone explain alignment to me? I'm not sure I understand what it means, exactly. Let's say we're working with a 3TB hard drive. How important is alignment? I keep reading about starting off at sector 2048 or something, etc....
[15:59] <snaker> i am trying to install wireless samsung printer drivers in ubuntu. how do i do that?
[15:59] <snaker> 90% of the threads i find are shit
[15:59] <snaker> i have a CD
[15:59] <compdoc> roasted, larger drives use small 4k sectors, and if the partition isnt created at the right place, performance suffers
[15:59] <BluesKaj> isn't there a partition manager on gnome/unity ?
[16:00] <snaker> it has a .jar file in it
[16:00] <snaker> i cant run it
[16:00] <jim8888> yep just tried the built in ubuntu disk / partition managers but no joy...
[16:00] <roasted> compdoc: so it matters where the partition STARTS, not ends?
[16:00] <UbuntuNewbie> try gparted
[16:00] <compdoc> roasted, if you use a modern program like gparted to create the parttion, it will be correct
[16:01] <zykotick9> roasted: i didn't actually think alignment was such a big issue with HDs (though it was more a SSD issue?) but i could be wrong.  you might want to consult http://wiki.debian.org/SSDoptimization which discusses alignment and links to some youtube video explaining it.
[16:01] <roasted> compdoc: I ask this because I'm setting up a software array. I want to set my drives to have 100MB remaining. I was messing with gdisk and it asks me at the beginning where I want to start. So I select accordingly. But when it asks about ending, I have NO idea. I wasn't sure if the entire drive should be in specific intervals or what.
[16:01] <compdoc> roasted, I dont think it matters where it ends, but it might matter where 2nd or 3rd partitions on the same drive start
[16:01] <compdoc> I always use one large partition
[16:01] <roasted> perhaps I should stop with this CLI obsession and just use GParted. :/
[16:02] <compdoc> gparted is best
[16:02] <roasted> the documentation of a lot of these CLI tools is often half baked, whereas GParted is just kind of an instant winner.
[16:02] <snaker> i am trying to install wireless samsung printer drivers in ubuntu. how do i do that? i have the CD with the drivers, but not a single tutorial thread guide worked.
[16:02] <gmulak1> Snaker:  What is the Samsung, a printer?
[16:02] <compdoc> fdisk is too old
[16:02] <snaker> gmulak1: multi function printer
[16:02] <roasted> right - I was using gdisk
[16:02] <snaker> gmulak1: scanner printer etc
[16:02] <snaker> gmulak1: works perfectly on windows 7
[16:03] <gmulak1> Snaker:  Those can be hard.  Is the wireless working?  Properly?
[16:03] <snaker> gmulak1: yes, under win7 it is. its connected through the switch
[16:04] <snaker> theres a .jar file in the cd
[16:04] <snaker> but there are no threads that help
[16:05] <BluesKaj> jim8888, gparted should list the size of each disk/partition , unless they're encrypted ?
[16:05] <snaker> all threads say reinstall java blablabla etc etc
[16:05] <snaker> and then open it with java
[16:05] <snaker> does
[16:05] <snaker> not
[16:05] <snaker> work
[16:05] <FloodBot1> snaker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:05] <gmulak1> Snaker:  But under Ubuntu?  You have to get the wireless working properly under Ubuntu first, I believe.  I have my Shuttle wired.  I was going to try NDIS wrapper next.
[16:06] <gmulak1> Snaker:  Have a call.  I have to go - sorry.  Someone will help you
[16:06] <ubuntu__> niil
[16:06] <ubuntu__> hello
[16:06] <snaker> gmulak1: oh, thanks. i ll try to fix it like that then have a nice day
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ...BBL
[16:09] <sabhain> anyone here using multiple monitors on 12.04?
[16:09] <Raj2013> jazzy
[16:09] <lemos> eai
[16:09] <lemos> hi
[16:09] <Raj2013> hello
[16:10] <Raj2013> lemos!
[16:11] <lemos_> do you like the ubuntu distro ?
[16:11] <karu_> Hey anyone know where linux drivers for intel gma 4500m is
[16:11] <karu_> I have to use nomodeset so that it doesnt boot to black
[16:12] <lemos_> run the additional drivers
[16:12] <lemos_> the drivers for intel
[16:12] <karu_> where
[16:12] <karu_> I'm new to this
[16:12] <roasted> as far as I know Intel's GPU drivers are open sourced, and therefore included within Linux without the need of going to Additional Drivers... whcih is normally the place to go for non-open source drivers, like Nvidia, AMD, etc....
[16:12] <lemos_> it's a app
[16:13] <lemos_> go in software center
[16:13] <roasted> Although the 4500 sticks out in my mind for some reason. I wonder if there was a bug resulting in that GPU to present a black screen.
[16:13] <roasted> You don't need to go to software center.
[16:13] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:13] <karu_> My friends tell me it's in the kernel
[16:13] <lemos_> and search
[16:13] <karu_> but it keeps booting to black screen
[16:13] <roasted> Additional Drivers is its own application within Ubuntu, outside of the software center.
[16:13] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:13] <karu_> unless I put in "nomodeset"
[16:13] <roasted> karu_: yes, Intel drivers are open source. Open source software is oten included into Linux (the kernel) by default.
[16:14] <lemos_> all the people here,is using the Ubuntu ?
[16:14] <karu_> Dunno what's going on
[16:14] <roasted> karu_: in short: There is, as far as I know, no reason to look for external drivers for Intel GPU's because they're already included by default.
[16:14] <karu_> Then why does it boot to a black screen
[16:14] <roasted> karu_: it booting to a black screen doesn't mean you don't have the driver, it just means there's an issue somewhere... maybe a bug? It's hard to say.
[16:15] <roasted> karu_: but you have the driver installed because you have the kernel installed because the kernel is part of the entire Linux system.....
[16:15] <roasted> karu_: so there are no additional drivers to get with the Intel GPU you have.
[16:15] <karu_> Well it says I'm using some veza graphics driver
[16:15] <roasted> I'm not sure. I've never had an issue with Intel so I can't really comment too much further. I just know you won't find any Intel drivers within Ubuntu Software Center or Additional Drivers.
[16:15] <karu_> This laptop resolution is 1366x768 or something like that
[16:16] <karu_> but it only goes upto 1280x720 in the graphics option
[16:16] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:16] <roasted> karu_: at the very least, I'd post on UbuntuForums.org (search fi rst, maybe somebody already found the answer) and let it stew for a bit to see what results you find.
[16:16] <karu_> Ok
[16:16] <roasted> karu_: sorry I can't help further, but I have almost 5,000 posts on the forums. IT's amazing how much help I've received over the years. It's why I keep coming back.
[16:18] <jhutchins_wk> karu_: Which kernel are you using?
[16:18] <karu_> ubuntu lts I think
[16:18] <karu_> not too sure  on what kernel means
[16:18] <karu_> 12.04
[16:19] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:19] <zykotick9> karu_: "uname -r" in a terminal will show your kernel version
[16:19] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:20] <jhutchins_wk> karu_: uname -r will give you the kernel revision.
[16:20] <karu_> ok
[16:21] <karu_> 3.2.0-36-generic
[16:21] <varunv> #vrtroopers
[16:21] <ignerous> anyone help
[16:21] <ignerous> anyone help
[16:21] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:22] <jhutchins_wk> !repeat | ignerous
[16:22] <karu_> hutchins have you got anything
[16:23] <karu_> if not thanks for helping anyway
[16:23] <jhutchins_wk> karu_: You could check  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[16:24] <karu_> whats that for
[16:26] <karu_> What do I do with this page?
[16:28] <ignerous> can anyone?
[16:28] <Catbuntu> Hi
[16:28] <Catbuntu> One question.
[16:28] <Catbuntu> I've installed Cinnamon and then I setted Nemo to be the default archive manager.
[16:28] <darkfrog> how do I save settings to ufw?
[16:28] <Catbuntu> Now I setted Nautilus as the default archive manager again, with the xdg commands, but Nemo still handles the desktop.
[16:28] <Catbuntu> How can I set Nautilus to handle it instead of Nemo?
[16:29] <darkfrog> I've added allow for some things but how do I make sure they will be re-applied at reboot?
[16:29] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:29] <Catbuntu> Oh, I fixed it.
[16:29] <Catbuntu> I just had to disable it on Gnome tweak tool and then enable it again.
[16:29] <Catbuntu> :)
[16:31] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10  pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:31] <ignerous> can anyone?
[16:34] <ShaneO> Hi guys could someone assist me with a PEM pass phrase error... I created a self signed cert for using my VMWare WSX... when I try to go to the address the terminal asks me to enter the pem passphrase but it will not take any input... when i eneter the pass and hit enter it just says "command not found" any suggestions on how to resolve this
[16:35] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10  pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:36] <sabhain> ignerous: what do you want to customize?
[16:37] <isi> Im quite the linux noob here, but ive got myself a mediabox with ubuntu and xbmc installed and xbmc freeze at exit, ive googled it and apparently the issue is i have to downgrade libgl-7.10.3 to libgl-7.10.2, and havnt figured out how I do that, anybody got any suggestions?
[16:38] <morgium> hello!
[16:39] <morgium> im using spamassassin+postfix on ubuntu 10.04LTS, every 3 hours i get a mail containing "config: path "/var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001" is inaccessible: Permission denied config: path "/var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/languages" is inaccessible: Permission denied", sent by user amavis. now my question: as which user is the command run? i chowned the /var/lib/spamassassin to amavis, no solution
[16:42] <ignerous> sabhain: something like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/how-to-customize-the-clock-applet-in-ubuntu
[16:42] <jcamfield> Greetings all - I've managed to completely disable my touchpad (Alps, was getting ID'd as a PS/2 only).  I've tried restoring the original psmouse.ko, but even post-reboot am having no luck.  Help?
[16:42] <jcamfield> (Ubuntu 12.10, 64bit, Dell Lat e6430, was following http://resalxh.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/ubuntu-12-04-lts-x64-the-next-step-getting-touchpad-working/ , and then the psmouse-dkms option
[16:43] <sabhain> ignerous: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-add-other-timezones-to-ubuntus-clock-applet
[16:43] <ignerous> sabhain: have you looked at the link?
[16:44] <invariant> Can anyone tell me how to get Skype working under Ubuntu? It segfaults and it displays: bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused.
[16:44] <sabhain> ignerous: that's for an older version, I think it's the gnome2 clock.  You probably need to be looking at something newer
[16:45] <ignerous> sabhain: can it be customised like the previous?
[16:46] <sabhain> ignerous: what have you tried?
[16:46] <dartos> How can I get Rythmbox to import all the music in my music folder?
[16:47] <ignerous> sabhain: no because i am not habituated with the codes
[16:48] <sabhain> ignerous: what specifically do you want to customize?
[16:48] <jongbergs> !topic
[16:48] <ignerous> sabhain: only the clock applet it really looks good
[16:49] <madaramost> ubuntu just stop of working I dont have any idea plzz help
[16:49] <ignerous> sabhain: can you help me?
[16:49] <lkzone> hi
[16:49] <lkzone> somebody can help this one
[16:49] <lkzone> http://bpaste.net/show/TxZby4wCUB5moEBCE1lE/
[16:49] <sabhain> ignerous: I don't know how to if you don't tell me what you want to change
[16:51] <lkzone> http://bpaste.net/show/TxZby4wCUB5moEBCE1lE/      how i fix IT ?
[16:51] <ignerous> sabhain: i want to make date over time and to decrease the font size like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Top-Expanded-Edge-Panel_015-copy.png
[16:52] <Catbuntu> hmm
[16:52] <Catbuntu> Nautilus is crashing and it stops managing the desktop when it crashes.
[16:54] <sabhain> ignerous: I see.  I'm not sure how that is done.  I'd recommend posting it over at ubuntu forums, with the link you provided.  The link you provided is for a different clock applet, not the current applet I believe
[16:55] <sabhain> ignerous: but make sure you specifically ask about the font size, and the stacking of the date.  It will help you get your answer.  "customizing the clock applet" could mean dozens of things.
[16:56] <madaramost> how I fix it
[16:59] <rexwin_> what linux software available to play embedded video on linux system installed as VPS?
[16:59] <marko-_-> I have an USB flash here which contains some files a friend asked me to retreive. The USB seems to be working fine (light turns on and everything). I can see it in /dev under sdb and mount tells me it's mounted on /mnt but there are no files and it doesn't really look mounted... what should i do? I force mounted it. When i try to mount it normally it says mount: block device /dev/sdb is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: you must specify the
[16:59] <marko-_-> filesystem type
[17:01] <daniele> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1359651609
[17:02] <rexwin_> what linux software available to play embedded video on LAMP server?
[17:03] <rexwin_> can i install software to play video?
[17:04] <zykotick9> marko-_-: sdb is a device, not a partition.  you might want to try testdisk/photorec to recover partitions/files.
[17:07] <lkzone> http://bpaste.net/show/TxZby4wCUB5moEBCE1lE/      dbus error or qt-dbuss error somebody help
[17:07] <jrtappers> Is there a way to keep two X sessions running at once?
[17:08] <zykotick9> jrtappers: "keep"?  you can run 2 Xorg sessions at teh same time, BUT shouldn't be the same user!
[17:08] <jrtappers> zykotick9,  I can get them running, but changing with ctrl+alt+f8/7 pauses the other
[17:09] <zykotick9> jrtappers: sound you mean?  how can you tell it's paused?
[17:09] <jrtappers> zykotick9, I have 3 screens, 2 off integrated, 1 off internal, the drivers don't work together so two x sessions is needed
[17:10] <jrtappers> zykotick9, If I go from f7 to f8 then it blanks f7, but the other way leaves them both on, with f8 frozen
[17:10] <zykotick9> jrtappers: oh, i gotcha.  i was thinking 2 Xorgs on one monitor.  sorry, i have no experience with separate X.
[17:11] <jrtappers> zykotick9, I have that working, its just the pausing thats annoying, any ideas?
[17:11] <zykotick9> jrtappers: sorry, no idea... good luck.
[17:12] <jrtappers> zykotick9, Thanks, I have been trying to fix this for a while, but I feel close to the solution now, any ideas where to ask?
[17:13] <zykotick9> jrtappers: you mean other tehn here?  not really... you could try ##linux perhaps.
[17:13] <jrtappers> zykotick9, thanks, il try there
[17:13] <ignerous> sabhain: ok can you help me
[17:14] <ignerous> sabhain: do you know how to do this
[17:14] <jose106> how do I know what shell I'm using from the terminal?
[17:14] <lucis> Hey guys, im pretty now to network adminstration, and am studying atm. I managed with rsyslog to store my log files from local0 into my mysql database. now based on facility i can see what he maps. but is there a file somewhere that tells me what applications map to local0, and where i can add remove applications that log to local0?
[17:15] <zykotick9> jose106: "echo $SHELL"
[17:15] <xangua> ignerous: you did read that is for gnome2 right¿
[17:15] <andre> !list
[17:17] <lucis> as far as i understand it now, daemons log the log files to a certain local file. can i see a list of which daemons map to which locals?
[17:17] <jose106> zykotick9, that gave me /bin/bash
[17:17] <zykotick9> jose106: that's you shell!
[17:18] <zykotick9> jose106: use "echo $TERM" to find what terminal you are using.
[17:18] <jose106> xterm
[17:19] <gmulak1> jose106:   # echo $SHELL
[17:19] <jose106> zykotick9, my bad, I meant desktop environment
[17:19] <zykotick9> jose106: don't know... good luck.
[17:22] <xrs> my sound has stopped working.
[17:22] <xrs> all the mixers are turned up
[17:23] <maicon> olá
[17:23] <lucis> ill try to rephrase myself. if in rsyslog.conf i define local0 => ommysql, it stores data in my mysql. local0 is user defined. well, i simply want to know what that local0 contains, where to find any info on it, what it is.
[17:23] <gmulak1> jose106:  I am not quite sure myself.  I think it is just like winsoz.  It's sort of how it looks.  Try this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[17:24] <maicon> can you help me?
[17:24] <xrs> what is the issue
[17:24] <Refefer> What's a safe way to unmount a usb sound card?  currently whenever I pull it out, it causes a kernel panic
[17:25] <jose106> gmulak1, I'll check it out. Thanks
[17:25] <invariant> How can I configure my microphone?
[17:25] <ignerous> xangua: no it is for unity
[17:25] <zykotick9> jose106: i'm not sure this is gonna work, but you can try "sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager" just don't change anything.
[17:25] <ignerous> sabhain: do you know how to do this
[17:26] <gmulak1> jose106:  No problem.  Let us know if that helps.  Are you going to SCaLE?  So. Calif Linux Expo in LA of Feb 22-24?
[17:26] <jrtappers> Is there a known problem with the AMD beta drivers causing blanking? 7770
[17:26] <xangua> ignerous: it is not
[17:27] <aminb> hey guys, can anybody please help with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/249922/not-returning-focus-to-previously-focused-window
[17:27] <ignerous> sabhain: can it be done for unity?
[17:27] <jose106> gmdeux_, No. I'd love too. Maybe next year
[17:28] <ignerous> sabhain: no code for this customisation? :(
[17:28] <UlyssesGa> Hi there!  Repeat question from yesterday.  I'm having a problem dual-booting Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Non-UEFI system (so no Secure boot).  Each installation is on its own hard drive, with the Ubuntu drive being the set as the primary bootable device in the system BIOS. (grub2 also situated on linux drive).
[17:28] <UlyssesGa> If Win8 is set as the first bootable HD, it starts fine.  If the Ubuntu drive is chosen as the 1st bootable drive and I attempt to boot to Win 8 from grub, Win8 immediately reboots.
[17:28] <gmulak1> jose106:  SCaLE is always in LA and always February.  It's very informative.  BTW askubuntu.com is also a help.  Come back though!
[17:29] <jose106> gmdeux_, Thanks
[17:29] <UlyssesGa> I was running Win7/Ubuntu but then upgraded to Win8.  Win7/Ubuntu (in the configuration noted above) functioned OK.  I ran update-grub
[17:29] <trism> ignerous: it works if you use gnome classic, so it isn't an indicator-datetime bug, it's an issue with how unity sends widgets, not really fixable without some considerable changes to the unity code
[17:29] <UlyssesGa> here's the boot-repair data: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591745/
[17:29] <ignerous> trism: welcome back
[17:29] <ignerous> trism: :)
[17:30] <barfod> is there a recommended way to set up a debootstrap install ? I am having trouble getting /etc/fstab , grub etc correct
[17:31] <barfod> like an official walkthrough or something , would be nice. tons of crappy articles written on it
[17:31] <gmulak1> trism:  I like a lot of features of Unity.  I function better in gnome though.  I will say, when I changed back to gnome I missed a lot of stuff in Unity.
[17:32] <aminb> anybody? please? :/
[17:34] <nicobn> what is the best way to redirect a local port to a vm in ubuntu ?
[17:34] <PrincessLuna> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on one partition / and have both /var and /home on a different (but common) partition?
[17:35] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: i don't think so.  you'd need /var and /home to be on separate partitions, so you can mount them properly.
[17:36] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: perhaps you could link them... but i wouldn't recommend it.
[17:37] <PrincessLuna> If I am installing Ubuntu on a tiny SSD and a large HDD, what should I keep in the HDD to save space apart from /home and /var ... I was thinking of installing in a 5gb ssd partition
[17:38] <ignerous> trism: the "\n" works but the the font size cannot be decreased
[17:38] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: good luck with that.  5GB really isn't enough space for / (for ubuntu anyways)
[17:39] <isi> how to downgrade libgl-7.10.3 to libgl-7.10.2?
[17:39] <PrincessLuna> zykotick9: Well, not the whole Ubuntu, ubuntu minimal with light kde and what I need
[17:39] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: "light kde" that's funny.  best of luck.
[17:40] <PrincessLuna> zykotick9: Well I have 24GB of SSD space I would love to try to squeeze in Ubuntu and Windows 8 in it. The high capacity ssd's are insanely expensive!
[17:40] <kdsmain> I know there's a LDAP channel, but nobody seems to be awake in it, so forgive me for asking, but with OpenLDAP, is the /etc/ldapscripts/ldapscripts.passwd really just supposed to say "secret"?
[17:41] <Plebeu> hi
[17:41] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: you said the majic word - i won't see your posts further.  good luck to you.
[17:41] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: No specific knowledge, but "secret" is often used as a placeholder for an actual password.
[17:42] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: Have you checked /usr/share/doc/openldap/README.Debian?
[17:42] <kdsmain> jhutchins_wk: Not yet, just the ldapadd man page
[17:43] <kdsmain> jhutchins_wk: I don't seem to have such a directory in /usr/share/doc
[17:47] <bradlee> thank god for teh google
[17:47] <bradlee> whoops
[17:49] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: Look for something similar - pretty much every package drops a folder there.
[17:49] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[17:50] <Thetawaves_> has anybody reported problems with linux-image-3.5.0-22-generic for amd64?
[17:50] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: Failing that, I'd look for ldap docs on the ubunutu web page - and obviously it's not going to be .Debian (D'Oh!)
[17:51] <kdsmain> jhutchins_wk: I see, yeah there are a couple of ldap-related folders in /usr/share/doc. Regardless, I got a different error by changing the /etc/ldapscripts/ldapscripts.passwd from secret to the actual password. So at least it's not an authentication error! Whee...
[17:52] <kdsmain> jhutchins_wk: Thanks for the pointer
[17:52] <rvgate> Last night i've closed the lid of my laptop running ubuntu... Now i open it again and the only thing i see is a "_" in the top left on a black screen... Key combinations dont work, not even the power button.. it just sits there doing absolutely nothing.. what am i doing wrong ?
[17:54] <root-_Plebeu> eae
[17:54] <root-_Plebeu> alguem do brasil ae
[17:59] <TheGrey> a quick wifi question: it seems that all my wifi traffic is stuck at 500 KiB/s...I'm currently torrenting a file and if I open a webpage streaming video, my torrent speed drops. In my conky network stat; the 500 KiB/s remains equilibrium...Whereas on Speedtest my reported speed is 5-6 Mbit/s. Can anyone explain/help me?
[18:00] <jrib> TheGrey: bits vs. Bytes perhaps?
[18:01] <nanashiRei> o/ everyone. Quite new to using a non windows system for work and i've googled my fingers bleeding. Is there a way to really disable the password prompt or increase the cache time?
[18:01] <nanashiRei> tbh, it's worth then back in Vista days :(
[18:01] <jrib> nanashiRei: yes, but what are you doing that requires you to enter the password so often?  It seems unusual
[18:02] <nanashiRei> Just the fact that i do have to enter it again after login into my account which is not automatic makes it a hassle in my eyes.
[18:03] <jrib> nanashiRei: well again, what are you doing that you're being asked for a password?
[18:04] <nanashiRei> And and i'm a fan ob shell scripts that i can click to enable and disable my development environment, so these require a password. I got rid of the shell prompt with the usual NOPASSWD: sudo thing
[18:05] <nanashiRei> And i kinda answesered the question you ask with the fact that i'm new to this kind of environment. So i am trying all kinds of software packages
[18:05] <nanashiRei> and ... there is 5 Minutes, ofc, between installs.
[18:05] <nanashiRei> It's interrupting my workflow pretty badly :<
[18:07] <nanashiRei> i see how disabling woud be a security risk if i had ssh installed or someone would ever gain access to that notebook, but that's not going to happen since it's mounted to my desktop :x
[18:07] <jrib> nanashiRei: you can keep a terminal around with "sudo -i", that will give a you shell where you can install things and such.  You can disable the password altogether with NOPASSWD in sudoers as you mention, but I wouldn't advise it. You could also increase the cache time... IMO you'll run out of things to install soon enough :)
[18:08] <nanashiRei> But, isn't this kinda backwards, i like ubuntu, no question. But Windows 7 and Windows 8 even are less annoying in that aspect :/
[18:09] <Zeid> hi guys
[18:09] <nanashiRei> Still there is nothign better then linux to administrate other linux systems :D
[18:09] <nanashiRei> ing*
[18:09] <Zeid> i'm a newbie in ubuntu and i have a couple of questions
[18:09] <jrib> nanashiRei: backwards in what way?  It shouldn't be necessary to do administrative tasks every 10 minutes so that it gets annoying
[18:09] <XtremeWiz> Zeid: Like?
[18:10] <Zeid> i want to install ubuntu but my pc is conected to a plasma tv
[18:10] <kvothetech> Zeid: which prevents installation why
[18:10] <nanashiRei> jrib: i'm used to dealing with Servers. And by default i enter them with a SSH Key... so there is 1 prompt per system startup (Pagent) and that's it :x
[18:11] <kanikilu> nanashi
[18:11] <jrib> nanashiRei: presumably you'd still enter the password when you sudo?
[18:11] <Zeid> so what about the drivers cuz i tried once to install it and when the installation begins it gives NO SIGNAL
[18:11] <nanashiRei> In general i don't even make use of sudo.
[18:12] <nanashiRei> other than elevating me to root with it.
[18:12] <Zeid> so i cant see whats going on!!
[18:12] <nanashiRei> Zeid, finish the installation. And don't use hardware from 1999 :D
[18:13] <nanashiRei> j/k after installation there is non-opensource drivers at your disposal
[18:13] <jrib> nanashiRei: that's fine.  You can do that if you are in the situation where you need to do a series of things as superuser (with "sudo -i").
[18:14] <Zeid> cool so the installation process will go smooth?! right!
[18:14] <ExxKA> Hey guys, I am using apt-get to install nodejs, but I can only select between version 0.6.12 and 0.8.18, but on launchpad I see version 0.6.19 and that is the usual version. How do I go about getting it?
[18:14] <nanashiRei> that brings me to the question, can i not just start my session with sudo? \o/
[18:14] <nanashiRei> ExxKA: install from git.
[18:14] <nanashiRei> really.
[18:15] <jrib> ExxKA: what ubuntu version?
[18:15] <jrib> nanashiRei: that would be *bad*.  You don't want to run things as superuser unless you have to
[18:15] <ExxKA> nanashiRei, I would prefer apt-get if that is possible, because I am using chef for the installation
[18:15] <ExxKA> jrib, 12.04 LTS
[18:16] <nanashiRei> chef... reminds me of scalarizer horror -_-
[18:16] <Zeid> and i have another questions regarding sat card skystar 2 will it work ?!
[18:17] <jrib> ExxKA: link to launchpad?
[18:18] <barfod> \o -.    ---->    \o>-.     ---->      \_-.
[18:18] <jrib> ExxKA: I see 0.6.19 in quantal, but not precise.  That's probably what you are seeing
[18:18] <nanashiRei> launchpad... i was like (O_O) when i saw "ssh-import-id"
[18:18] <drangeo> Hello, I am having issues with intel ivy bridge and ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[18:19] <ExxKA> jrib, Thanks for taking an interest. What is the difference between quantal and precise?
[18:19] <nanashiRei> don't do ssh-import-id nanashi-rei if you don't want me lirking around :D
[18:19] <jrib> ExxKA: precise is the codename for 12.04 and quantal is the codename for 12.10
[18:19] <Zeid> skystar 2 anyone can help?
[18:19] <ExxKA> Well.. I suppose what I wanted to say is, is quantal the standard version?
[18:19] <ExxKA> Right
[18:20] <jrib> ExxKA: 12.04 is the latest LTS release, 12.10 is the latest release
[18:20] <ExxKA> That is unlucky
[18:20] <drangeo> Can anyone help me with 12.04 and intel ivy bridge? I get GPU hung errors, and the screen freezes
[18:20] <ExxKA> So I will have to build it from source?
[18:20] <Zeid> skystar 2 anyone can help?
[18:21] <nanashiRei> ExxKA: it's easy. There is git-hook solutions for this :)
[18:21] <ncsquid22> Zeid: whats the problem?
[18:21] <Zeid> will it work on ubntu?
[18:22] <jrib> ExxKA: you can look for a ppa, look into backporting it (either request or do it yourself), or you can upgrade to 12.10 :)
[18:22] <jrib> !backport | ExxKA
[18:24] <OerHeks> Zeid, wiki says it should work >> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechniSat_SkyStar_2_TV_PCI_/_Sky2PC_PCI
[18:25] <threex5> Hi could someone explain to me why my clipboard is so unreliable? It seems like when I copy something, image or text, It doesn't replace what's already in the clipboard half the time and I have to copy it 2 or 3 times to make it work.
[18:26] <jrib> threex5: perhaps you close the application before you paste?  You may want to look into a clipboard manager
[18:26] <Guest3920> hello
[18:26] <threex5> huh
[18:27] <threex5> ok does that uninstall ubuntu's built in clipboard manager?
[18:27] <jrib> threex5: does it have one by default?
[18:27] <threex5> ubuntu's documentation says that clipboard persistence is a known bug. they recommend parcellite
[18:27] <Guest3920> bye
[18:28] <Zeid> OerHeks, cheers
[18:28] <jrib> threex5: sure, that's a good one
[18:28] <threex5> I mean I assume if ubuntu can copy/paste, there's a built in clipboard manager by default. Should I remove that?
[18:29] <jrib> threex5: nah, the apps are responsible for what's in the clipboard, that's why if you copy something, close the app, then try to paste somewhere else, you won't get anything
[18:30] <jrib> threex5: parcellite does some nice things.  You can sync your two clipboards, you can make actions, you get a history.  It's probably worth it if you use your clipboard a lot
[18:30] <threex5> ok i'll try parcellite. do you think it's nicer than glipper?
[18:30] <jrib> threex5: I don't know.  Try both in turn and see which you like
[18:30] <kanikilu> threex5: not sure if it applies, but when I copy some text (for example), then before pasting, do something like click-and-drag a file in nautilus to move it, the previous copied text is gone
[18:30] <kanikilu> ...is there any pattern like that for you, or just random?
[18:31] <ExxKA> Thank you all, I will look into backports
[18:31] <threex5> kanikilu, good to know. I haven't noticed that specifically, but I'll keep that in mind
[18:32] <isi> how to downgrade libgl-7.10.3 to libgl-7.10.2? apparently that will solve the xbmc freeze on exit "bug"...
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> !downgrade
[18:37] <jhutchins_wk> isi: I think that's meant to apply to a whole-system downgrade.  Not sure if there's a package downgrade capability like with yum.
[18:37] <isi> isee..
[18:38] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, how do I check what sound driver is currently installed?
[18:38] <jrtappers> How do I change between a propietary driver and an open source driver easily?
[18:39] <adamk> You remove the proprietary one and reboot.
[18:40] <jrtappers> adamk, Is there a way to switch between them? Xorg.conf or some other way?
[18:40] <solars> hey, is there an ubuntu installer download that fits a cdrom? 700mb
[18:40] <jrtappers> adamk, I need prop. for games and open for using multiple screens
[18:40] <adamk> jrtappers: The proprietary drivers install a kernel module and overwrite the open source OpenGL library and GLX extension.
[18:41] <adamk> So, really, there is no easy way to switch between them, certainly not without a reboot and replacing those pieces.
[18:41] <OerHeks> solars, minimal iso > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:41] <jrtappers> Ok
[18:43] <JokesOnYou77> How do I check what sound driver is currently installed?
[18:43] <gmulak1> rvgate:  I have had this happen in diff OS (espesially windoz) when it goes into sleep mode which is not playing well with the OS on wakeup.  It is usually a driver issue.  Search on that in google.  Let us know if that helps
[18:45] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, what is your problem
[18:45] <JokesOnYou77> I'd like to install alsa drivers from the realtek site but I want to know what's currently installed first
[18:46] <BiPolah> I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 minimal in a VM using WMWare Player on Windows 7. I'm running the network in bridged mode, and when I spin up the VM my newtork connection in Windows 7 fails. Could anybody help me with this?
[18:46] <cvsdave> Using 11.10 -looking for wifi documentation; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin seems to be far out of date.  Is more currect available?
[18:46] <gmulak1> rvgate:  Does what I said help your issue with nothing on the laptop?
[18:46] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, you are having sound problems?
[18:47] <monst> hello
[18:47] <gmulak1> Guess not!  :-)
[18:47] <gmulak1> monst:  hello
[18:47] <monst> have a question about an ubuntu issue
[18:48] <kostkon> !ask | monst
[18:48] <monst> my error is "glance-common : Depends: python-glance (= 2012.2.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0) but 2012.2.1-0ubuntu1.1~cloud0 is to be installed"
[18:48] <kostkon> :P
[18:48] <monst> it says to run apt-get -f install to fix
[18:48] <monst> when I run that it wants to upgrade glance
[18:48] <monst> I DO NOT want to upgrade Glance
[18:48] <monst> how can I get rid of the error without upgrading?
[18:48] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, I hear crackling and noise when there is no sound playing.  I'd like to get rid of that.  Installing new sound drivers fixed the same problem in my windows install
[18:49] <cvsdave> Is  Ubuntu documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community commonly out of date?
[18:50] <gmulak1> monst:  I do not know, sorry.   Just put it out there and try askubuntu.org.  Search for an answer there if no response here--sorry
[18:50] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, check the output of:  aplay -l
[18:51] <gmulak1> monst:  just state the question again, all at once....
[18:51] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, I got devices, no driver info
[18:52] <cvsdave> Is there a better channel for documentation questions?
[18:52] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, what kind of info do you want exactly?
[18:52] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, the current sound driver version on my system
[18:54] <IOmegaZ> hi
[18:54] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, hmm
[18:54] <dvz-> lo there
[18:54] <t0th_-> hi
[18:54] <cvsdave> Using 11.10 -looking for wifi documentation; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin seems to be far out of date.  Is more currect available?
[18:57] <snaker> http://i.imgur.com/a9MB50f.jpg
[18:57] <snaker> hi
[18:57] <snaker> oops
[18:57] <snaker> wrong channel nvm
[18:57] <FloodBot1> snaker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, is it a realtek or an intel card?
[18:58] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, is't integrated, but I'm pretty sure it's realtek
[18:59] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, do you want ot give the output of aplay -l
[19:00] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, if you would like to give it
[19:00] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, you can paste it at paste.ubuntu.com
[19:01] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1593863/ I see what you mean.  It does say intel
[19:03] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, right. so, it could be the classic power save problem: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-how-to-fix-crackling-noise-on-hda-audio-cards-in-ubuntu-9-10.html or this here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PositionReporting. you could try both. start with the former
[19:05] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, Cool, thank you.  I'll take a look and try and get back to you after reboot (as I'm guessing cconfig changes won't take effect til after reboot)
[19:05] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, ok. yes, reboot after applying the changes
[19:07] <yva> hi are there some default limits in the amount of ram and cpu ubuntu allows apache and mysql to use?
[19:07] <flintser>  http://paste.ubuntu.comhttp://i.imgur.com/a9MB50f.jpg
[19:07] <ericus> Does anyone have link to a good guide for setting up a OpenVPN server on Ubuntu Server?
[19:10] <foolove> I am having difficulty getting my bluetooth headset to work
[19:10] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, alsa-base.config makes no mention of power-save anywhere and I don't think it's the second option as the problem isn't with playback with with static noise
[19:10] <foolove> it seems to pair but when i go to sound preferences it says waiting for sound
[19:10] <CyL> How do I find out what packages are installed for a given server 'task'?
[19:11] <foolove> waiting for sound system to respond
[19:11] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, hmm
[19:12] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, ok. you could try adjusting your volume levels, muting anything you don't need etc.
[19:12] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, I really would just like to see my current driver version
[19:12] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, using alsamixer.
[19:12] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, I'm just going to install the realtek driver and see if it works
[19:13] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, as you wish
[19:15] <flintser> what do i need to do in order to see angle brackets around nicks in irssi. i use screen and irssi through ssh with putty on windows 7
[19:17] <esph> flintser: that'd be something you set up through irssi's config or with scripting
[19:17] <CyL> How do I find out what packages are installed for a given server 'task'?
[19:18] <sianhulo> hey guys, I need help with vmware, I installed it and I'm trying to strat it up but it says that kernel generic module is missing(it's not), what to do?
[19:18] <jrib> CyL: read /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc probably
[19:18] <poq> Is any software for web page monitoring for changes?
[19:19] <CyL> jrib: Well, already tried that files but it actually only holds the tasks descriptions
[19:19] <flintser> esph, ok thanks, i see brackets in other ssh clients so maybe it is a problem with putty after all...
[19:20] <jrib> CyL: doesn't "Key" describe the packages?
[19:20] <cvsdave> Using 11.10 -looking for wifi documentation; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin seems to be far out of date.  Is more currect available?
[19:20] <CyL> jrib: Sorry, I don't get you
[19:20] <jrib> CyL: what task do you want to know about?
[19:21] <zykotick9> CyL: does ubuntu use task-* packages?
[19:21] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, $ cat /proc/asound/version
[19:22] <CyL> jrib: lamp-server
[19:22] <CyL> zykotick9: I'm not sure what are you talking about.
[19:22] <zykotick9> CyL: like task-web-server
[19:22] <zykotick9> !info task-web-server
[19:22] <Guest30124> HI! voyager 12.10?
[19:22] <zykotick9> CyL: guess not.  too bad.
[19:22] <CyL> zykotick9: You have to run tasksel
[19:23] <sianhulo> nobody have tried to install vmware?
[19:23] <zykotick9> CyL: upstream has those packages, guess ubuntu removes them :(
[19:23] <jrib> CyL: ah, well "Key" lists the essential packages.  Then you must query your packages to see which have the appropriate task field apparently
[19:24] <CyL> jrib: you mean doing a search on packages descriptions/titles for the key "lamp-server"?
[19:24] <jrib> CyL: example: aptitude search '~tlamp-server'
[19:24] <jrib> CyL: there are special fields apparently for tasks
[19:25] <CyL> jrib: Sure, that's what I was talking about. Thanks for the info.
[19:25] <esph> flintser: looks like it could be a color limitation like this: http://bugs.irssi.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=666
[19:26] <CyL> jrib: BTW last time I have used a Debian based distro, I had to stick either with apt-get or aptitude, there is still such obligation?
[19:26] <esph> flintser: in which case, changing some colors in your putty client might fix it
[19:26] <cvsdave> are there alternative channels for support?
[19:27] <jrib> !support | cvsdave
[19:27] <SonikkuAmerica> CyL: Depends.
[19:27] <jrib> cvsdave: usually a project will have its own channel
[19:27] <CyL> SonikkuAmerica: On what?
[19:27] <SonikkuAmerica> CyL: You can install yum
[19:28] <cvsdave> ubottu:  isn;t this channel #ubuntu?  Then the answer is no?
[19:28] <jrib> SonikkuAmerica: install yum?
[19:28] <CyL> SonikkuAmerica: Why would I install a redhat tool on a debian based distro?
[19:28] <jrib> cvsdave: what do you need help with?
[19:28] <cvsdave> Using 11.10 -looking for wifi documentation; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin seems to be far out of date.  Is more currect available?
[19:28] <SonikkuAmerica> jrib, CyL: You're asking me? I'm telling you it's possible. But why bother.
[19:28] <jrib> !wifi | cvsdave
[19:29] <CyL> SonikkuAmerica: Have you read my question to jrib?
[19:29] <SonikkuAmerica> CyL: Yes
[19:29] <jrib> CyL: can I ask why you asked your question by the way?
[19:29] <zykotick9> CyL: stick with apt-get is safest option in ubuntu.  but aptitude should work, and using one or the other "shouldn't" matter.
[19:30] <cvsdave> ubottu thanks!
[19:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, aptitude has Easter eggs.
[19:30] <nronksr> What is the easiest way to see a grub menu (without rebooting) after adding additional kernels to set the GRUB_DEFAULT option to the desired kernel?
[19:30] <CyL> jrib: I haven't been working with debian/ubuntu for a long time, I find it sometimes easier to use apt related tools, and others aptitude, I was just afraid that would mess up with my package base the way it used to
[19:31] <kaushal> Hi
[19:31] <zykotick9> SonikkuAmerica: so does apt-get, try "apt-get moo" sudo not required
[19:31] <kaushal> Any GUI to ping multiple servers or hosts?
[19:31] <kaushal> available on Ubuntu
[19:31] <kaushal> similar to http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/multiple_ping_tool.html
[19:31] <jrib> CyL: just don't use tasksel to remove tasks.  You can actually use apt-get to intall tasks with something like: apt-get install lamp-server^   (actually I'm not sure if the ^ should be a prefix or suffix)
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9, did you use the v-switches
[19:32] <jrib> CyL: also, I am reading documentation now and you can use "tasksel --task-packages lamp-server" to list packages
[19:32] <CyL> jrib: I don't want to install a lamp task, I'm going to run the webserver on a computer and the database server on the other. I'd just like to see what are the relevant packages for the webserver.
[19:32] <kunji> jrib: suffix, just like your example.
[19:33] <CyL> jrib: Thanks very much, I'm sorry for not getting that info from the manual.
[19:34] <jrib> CyL: no problem, this way I learned about it too :)
[19:34] <gmulak1> L3top - please see private message - thanks
[19:34] <kunji> CyL: Well, it depends, the web server itself is just Apache, though you could use other ones instead, like Nginx.  But then if you want PHP, then you'll also need PHP, or if you want PERL, etc...
[19:35] <jrib> CyL: if you "/msg ubottu lamp" he gives you wiki link where the packages are listed explicitly as well
[19:35] <flintser> esph: i changed some colors and it helped, thanks :)
[19:35] <CyL> kunji: Yes, I just want to avois installing mysqlserver on the webserver
[19:35] <kunji> CyL: Then you would install just the database, say MySQL or MariaDB on the other.
[19:35] <noobile> hi can anyone help me with an upstart script?
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> !upstart
[19:36] <kunji> CyL: It' not the installing part that's obnoxious when doing something like this, it's usually the part where you need to configure the webserver and database to talk to each other.
[19:36] <kunji> *It's
[19:36] <CyL> kunji: I believe this wouldn't have much difference if I was using a complete local lamp stack, is that right?
[19:37] <CyL> kunji: I'm asking because running the database on the other machine would relief me from the burden of maintaining it
[19:38] <kunji> CyL: I think it's not bad for MySQL, it was quite a pain for me configuring my intance of Apache to communicate with an Oracle database.
[19:38] <kunji> CyL: On a remote machine
[19:38] <CyL> kunji: Sure, thanks for your advice anyway
[19:40] <kunji> CyL: This looks applicable: http://library.linode.com/databases/mysql/standalone-mysql-server
[19:41] <CyL> kunji: Oh, it certainly is, thanks.
[19:46] <thoonai_> hi mi nick is blocked :(
[19:47] <anonymous_> e..
[19:47] <kunji> thoonai_: issues with your nick are handled in #freenode
[19:47] <SonikkuAmerica> !e
[19:48] <anonymous_> bye
[19:48] <Roganis> plop !
[19:48] <Roganis> woops wrong chat
[19:48] <thoonai_> kunji: yeah :) thx. you dont know by chance which programm I can use for converting the output of scanimage to jpg?
[19:49] <kunji> thoonai_: What format is the output of that?
[19:50] <thoonai_> kunji: its some raw data
[19:51] <kunji> thoonai_: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_scanimage.htm looks like you can output as a tiff
[19:52] <moon`> I installed ubuntu on a laptop 2-3 days ago and I seem to sporadically loose keyboard functionality, is this a known issue?
[19:52] <johnnyfireworks> hi
[19:52] <moon`> The only thing that allows it to start working again is reboot
[19:54] <thoonai_> kunji: now Ive to com from tiff to jpeg ...
[19:54] <kunji> thoonai_: GIMP can convert the tiff file, or imagemagick will as well.  GIMP might be able to handle the PNM formats, but that's a big might.
[19:54] <oliverp> How do I get a list of available wireless networks? I've tried "iwlist" and that works - but its way too much information. Is it possible to get a simpler list of networks?
[19:55] <johnnyfireworks> anyone know about giving a usb wired mouse to work vb (virtualbox)? it micosofts standard one.
[19:56] <musetux> Greetings All, Minor issue I was looking for some guidance on. It would seem i've somehow removed my (only) user in my 12.04 setup from all the system groups, including sudoers. any one have anyidea how to re-instantiate those privllages? Thanks for any help!
[19:56] <zykotick9> musetux: let me guess, you used usermod to try and add a user to a group?
[19:57] <musetux> great quess!  or im a uber tool!
[19:57] <sianhulo> someone uses vmware?I cant start it up, says that there is no kernel generic module
[19:57] <zykotick9> musetux: using usermod needs a "-a" to append, or you loose all other groups.  in future, using useradd is a lot safer.
[19:58] <thoonai_> kunji: thx :D
[19:58] <adamk> sianhulo: If vmware is looking for one of it's kernel modules, and can't find it, it should ask you if it can install the module.
[19:58] <musetux> thanks zykotick9, I was rushing, should have read the man oage
[20:00] <lesshaste> how do I do this? Copy prog/init/lm_sensors.init to /etc/init.d/lm_sensors
[20:00] <lesshaste> where is this prog?
[20:00] <nat> anybody i, Belgium ??
[20:00] <nat> Belgium ?
[20:01] <johnnyfireworks> sianhulo,  state your question with your pc secs and your program specs. to avoid future 21 question game. and in the end you less likly not to get it fixed,because someone gave up.
[20:01] <sianhulo> adamk, I have the module installed, vmware itself suggest to find another location in the case it is somewhere else or isntall it myself
[20:01] <adamk> I have never heard of that before.  Please show the *exact* message you are receiving.
[20:02] <sianhulo> adamk, well, wait a while because I cant' copy it, I think it would be better to take a screenshot
[20:03] <musetux> zykotick9: would you say; time for a re-install?
[20:04] <sianhulo> johnnyfireworks, i think the only relevat information about this subject is that I have ubutnu 12.10 and kernel 3.7.0-7
[20:04] <kunji> musetux: No, boot from a live cd and chroot, add a new user.
[20:05] <musetux> kunji:  Thank you. I'll give that a go
[20:05] <zykotick9> musetux: no.  just boot recovery and add your user back to the required groups (sorry i don't use ubuntu, so don't know what groups you need)
[20:05] <kunji>  musetux: Or rather, you just removed your user from all the groups right?  So add the groups back rather than making a new user.
[20:06] <flintser> why not rescue and adduser?
[20:07] <musetux> zykotick9: thanks that's not to bad idea, like that one too/
[20:07] <kunji> musetux: I don't know if it's all the groups you'll need, or if you need all of these ones, but for reference my user if part of his own group (The same as the user name), adm, cdrom, sudo, plugdev, lpadmin, and sambashare
[20:07] <kunji> *is not if
[20:08] <kunji> flintser: Hmm, rescue should also work I think.  We don't really want to adduser because it would leave his old user hanging, but he could remove the old user first and then add one with the same name.
[20:08] <lesshaste> what's a nice graphical app to show cpu temp etc
[20:09] <kunji> lesshaste: Conky, you can write whatever lua + Cairo script you want if you want fancier graphics than the defaults.
[20:10] <sianhulo> I'm trying to start vmware but it says that the generic kernel module wasn't found, is there a way to fix this?
[20:10] <musetux> flintser: Thank you very much for the suggestion, i may try that do to impaitents  of redownloading the .iso for a liveCD
[20:11] <kunji> lesshaste: sudo apt-get install conky  Then cp /etc/conky/conky.conf ~/.conkyrc   Or you can write your own .conkyrc, the options are further explained in the man page.
[20:11] <lesshaste> thanks
[20:12] <musetux> flintser, kunji, zykotick9: Thank you so much for all your help, imma get cracking on this!!
[20:12] <kunji> lesshaste: You may need lmsensors or something for the temps
[20:13] <flintser> musetux: http://serverfault.com/questions/11488/what-are-the-default-groups-assigned-to-the-first-user-in-ubuntu-server i think that info is update enough fot you to work with if you dont want to make a new user
[20:19] <reiligha> Hi folks. I was running rkhunter and got this message in my logs after a warning on the check for hidden files and directories: Warning: Hidden file found: /etc/.fstab.swp: Vim swap file, version 7.3
[20:19] <reiligha> I saw a couple other warnings but google told me those were false positives and that everything looks normal.
[20:20] <jrib> reiligha: just seems like you didn't close vim properly after editing /etc/fstab
[20:20] <monst> seems there is a unresovable dependancy for Glance on the Ubuntu repo.
[20:20] <monst> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EJgE3TBa
[20:21] <reiligha> jrib That's probably the case. I couldn't get the :recover command to work as described by vim
[20:21] <jrib> reiligha: #vim might help more
[20:21] <jrib> monst: "~cloud0"? what repository is this from?
[20:22] <reiligha> jrib Thank you!
[20:22] <nb-ben> has anyone ever tried installing gfarm on ubuntu-server ?
[20:23] <reiligha> !cookie
[20:24] <monst> jrib, deb     http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise-proposed/folsom main
[20:26] <jrib> monst: have you tried not using -proposed?  Instead using -updates as in http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/cloud-archive-instructions ?
[20:26] <flintser> monst: couldnt you just download those packages and install them manually?
[20:27] <monst> jrib I tried updates
[20:27] <jrib> monst: and?
[20:27] <monst> same error
[20:27] <monst> I might already be in a jacked state
[20:27] <jrib> monst: pastebin command after "apt-get update" and "apt-cache policy PACKAGES" for the packages in question please
[20:27] <monst> ok
[20:28] <Kinglet> hello guys, how can i do in terminal via tor? for example ssh
[20:30] <monst> jrib, http://paste.openstack.org/raw/30061/
[20:31] <monst> btw at the moment precise-updates and precise-proposed are identical
[20:32] <jrib> monst: 2012.2.1-0ubuntu1.1 installed ok on quantal for what it's worth.  Is it ok to remove the packages temporarily?  If so, does that even work? :)
[20:33] <Kinglet> hello guys, how can i do in terminal via tor? for example ssh
[20:33] <jrib> monst: oh I should say, python-glance installed ok but it seems like your issue is with glance, glance-api, glance-registry, and glance-common
[20:34] <monst> correct
[20:34] <monst> do I need to remove a package?
[20:35] <jrib> monst: let's remove glance-common, glance-api, glance-registry, and glance for now and then install glance-common directly and see if there are issues
[20:36] <monst> I cant remove them since they are running, I need to do some distastor recovery work before I can turn them down
[20:36] <jrib> monst: hmm
[20:36] <monst> this dependency mishap broke my system pretty good =(
[20:37] <jrib> monst: is it clear it's a dependency issue?
[20:38] <flintser> monst: did you try to manually install broken packages? i had to do that once before everything worked out
[20:38] <jrib> yes, I was going to suggest "apt-get install glance-common glance-api glance-registry glance" if you can't remove them.  There are new versions available anyway
[20:39] <Maxwell> Anyone else having trouble logging into 12.04 after updating?
[20:39] <jrib> Maxwell: probably you :)  Can you say what issue you are having?
[20:40] <Maxwell> Probably me is right.  All it does is blink off the login screen, then right back to it.
[20:40] <jrib> Maxwell: pastebin ~/.xsession-errors
[20:40] <Maxwell> Alright, let me try that.
[20:44] <Maxwell> What would be the proper syntax?  I'm getting command errors.
[20:45] <jrib> Maxwell: pastebinit ~USERNAME/.xsession-errors
[20:45] <Maxwell> Thank you, I'll try that
[20:46] <jiffe98> there still no way to play bluray on linux?
[20:47] <jiffe98> without ripping it first