[06:42] <gnomefreak> i hate held back packages
[13:08] <riderplus> hi. i have no sound in tv-maxe
[13:09] <riderplus> i have installed a lot of codecs
[13:10] <riderplus> it seems like I have no sound at all
[13:11] <riderplus> I can't play any file
[17:10] <johnjohn101> oh man can't get vmware tools compiled with latest daily
[17:24] <johnjohn101> looks like 3.8 rolled out today
[17:53] <\n> hi, I've found a weird glitch with KMS in the radeon driver. sometimes when I go to tty and back to X11, the screen starts flashing between pitch black (screen off?) and a brigter shade (screen on, black bg). only a forced shutdown works.
[17:55] <drhalan> anyone else here having problems with audio in spotify and flash. bug is already reported but doesn't seem to get too much attention
[17:56] <\n> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old after reboot: http://ix.io/3X8/
[21:21] <johnjohn101> did the kernel header not get put into todays release?
[21:33] <hggdh> johnjohn101: you mean the ISO?
[21:52]  * yofel has headers for 3.8.0-0 installed
[22:23] <riderplus> i have no sound whatsoever in ubuntu 13.04
[22:23] <riderplus> i have seen the bug, but couldn't fix it
[22:24] <riderplus> can anyone help me?
[22:33] <riderplus> suspend then resume. problem solved
[22:33] <riderplus> weird
[22:33] <riderplus> does anybody know if the Keyboard Layout Indicator should be on gnome3. I don't have it.
[22:45] <johnjohn101> i'll come back on monday
[22:45] <johnjohn101> bye


 using only open source drivers means I don't really have a useful screenshot for proprietary drivers.
[02:59] <guiverc> grrrr...  (playing on a box with jammy live looking at if software sources shows 'additional drivers' & another issue I thought was fixed appears.... grrrr
[03:00] <guiverc> @lyonrian, I've a box that has 'additional drivers' visible.. if that's what you're after
[03:10] <guiverc> @lynorian, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/588743146/screen01.jpg shows what I see (that is pic showing menu opening wrong spot added to bug filing.. BUT if you tell me if I can make something useful and I'll use the box for you if helpful)
 RE : QA iso Jammy posted this in Ubuntu testers irc for those who missed it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1962815
 That is because the ISO scripts are failing to copy the ISO files to cdimage mirrors (re @Leokolb: RE : QA iso Jammy posted this in Ubuntu testers irc for those who missed it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1962815)
 Thanks Rik, I was just typing something similar.
 I guess the QA site doesn't know it failed
 Tks @RikMills and @kc2bez — well any ways we know😊
 I mentioned it in #ubuntu-release earlier, but a lot of canonical people are on a sprint, so I don't think it was noticed
 This has happened before and usually takes a day or two to get back to normal
[20:19] <kgiii> None of the daily .iso download methods are working - confirmed from multiple systems in multiple locations. HTTP, RSYNC, and ZSYNC are all not resolving to anything. I've seen this before, but it has always resolved itself within 30 to 45 minutes. Today, it has not done so. I'll keep checking though, historically speaking, it has somehow resolved itself much more quickly.
 maybe i should poke the release team and canonical sysadmins but i bet they already know.
 I've seen mention of a sprint so few are 'around' in normal sense I gather
[23:04] <kgiii> It is still broken. I've checked fairly consistently for the past five hours. I'm calling it. I'm done checking for a while. I may check again in a few hours, but that's getting close to my bed time. ;-)
 Unless someone triggers a rebuild it won't even try until tomorrow.
 I can do that but their isn't any changes made on the Lubuntu side since it was last tested.
 If you haven't read it this link describes the iso build process very well. https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/iso-building/
 It includes a link to check the build logs
 If a build fails the product managers get an email. (I did in this case)
[23:50] <kgiii> Huh... I wonder why it still says there's a new build available when it hasn't actually finished? Ah well... That's way above my pay grade.


[00:29] <brieweb> which repository do you need to enable in 14.04.2 to get schedules direct to work?
[01:30] <brieweb> any tips on how to check that the schedule database did not fill
[01:30] <brieweb> when I run it, it says "Did not find any new program data."
[05:43] <Shadow__X> brieweb: mythbuntu control center has an option within it to enable the updates repo
[05:44] <brieweb> oh yes, I enabled that. It looks like it enabled the same repo that you can add manually
[05:44] <brieweb> and, my version is 27.6
[05:45] <Shadow__X> yes


[16:50] <cfhowlett> CB6, let's find out: open a terminal:  lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> CB6: the 14th release of Ubuntu is Natty (Ubuntu 11.04) which went EOL ages ago
[16:50] <jesse__> I´ve got a dell inspiron 1525. Which only has 3gb of RAM and some terrible integrated graphics card I think, can it run ubuntu nicely?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> jesse__: should be fine
[16:51] <CB6> I would look at system settings manually but it isn't working anymore in Unity :|
[16:51] <cfhowlett> jesse__, possible yes, but you might xubuntu or lubuntu snappier
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> jesse__: if you want to free more resources for applications, then use Xubuntu and the desktop session will use less RAM
[16:51] <CB6> I meant 14.0 whatever lol
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> CB6: there is a difference, as I just showed
[16:51] <jesse__> But I want to use Unity, but im afraid it will be slow indeed.
[16:51] <CB6> I installed like a couple days ago so whatever is on the site
[16:51] <jesse__> But Unity looks nice
[16:51] <CB6> yes
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> CB6: 15.04 and 14.04 and 12.04 are fully supported
[16:52] <cfhowlett> CB6, please don't "whatever". unclear info >>> bad answers.
[16:52] <subthalamus> doh, I don't think the drivers changed
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> jesse__: Unity should run. Its not that big. Try it in live CD. If it works there then great
[16:52] <subthalamus> TJ-: I added the edgers ppa but
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> CB6: Samba in Nautilus in Trusty should be fine. What issue are you seeing?
[16:53] <subthalamus> after an update, nothing seems to have changed
[16:53] <DWSR> Anyone know how to run allow Guest sessions to properly manipulate network connections?
[16:53] <Jamie_1> for some odd reason my terminal is showing just black and several drop downs are just black
[16:53] <CB6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960220/ does the fact that the conf isn't showing specified shares matter if nautilus shows shared folders? smbtree shows samba as running as per specific folders none displayed. I'm not sure if smbtree is supposed to show that
[16:53] <kostkon> jesse__, intel hd3k and 4k should be able to run Unity just fine
[16:53] <jesse__> Great :D
[16:53] <TJ-> subthalamus: did you do "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[16:54] <jesse__> Thanks for your advice; ActionParsnip kostkon
[16:54] <Jamie_1> jesse__: I did downgrade my kernal to 3.13 but it was messy before that
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> CB6: gvfs will manage the shares you specify in nautilus. Personally I use the config file but thats just how I manage it
[16:54] <CB6> I asked in samba and it's dead in there. Someone just said I specified no shares but I have nautilus specifying share folders so trying to figure out why it doesn't show up at all. The router etc shows up no issues in the workgroup
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> jesse__: no worries, hope it works out for you
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> CB6: what OS are the clients going to be?
[16:55] <jesse__> Hope so too, I´ve been on Mint for some time. I started working on my Ubuntu phone app for the competition and I thought to myself I cant be developing an Ubuntu app on Mint i gotta download Ubuntu haha
[16:55] <CB6> I'm not familiar with Trusty so I don't know what you mean by that. I'm assuming it's some sort of share manager. The conf file didn't update but does that matter if this Trusty manages it?
[16:55] <subthalamus> TJ-: well, no but when I do it now it says nothing to do
[16:55] <subthalamus> (paraphrased)
[16:55] <CB6> oh ok so gvfs does the share management
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> CB6: yes, but what OS are the clients connectin gto the share/s going to be using?
[16:56] <subthalamus> this is already vivid
[16:56] <CB6> does gvfs update smb.conf on the fly because it wasn't updated here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960220/
[16:56] <Jamie_1> i am on ubuntu-gnome 14.04 my terminal is black... not able to do anything... on gnome de when i click on a drop down in firefox it does nothing.... on unity de the drop down comes down but is black.... i had to install a secondary terminal to work around it... im not really sure what needs to be done to fix this or diagnose the problem. can someone help me figure this out
[16:57] <CB6> 1 windows 7 laptop 1 ubuntu desktop
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> ok cool, if it was pure Linux you could ditch samba :)
[16:58] <subthalamus> cfhowlett: thanks
[16:58] <CB6> file share speeds are so low in Teamviewer so that is far from practical.
[16:58] <subthalamus> TJ-: what are the generally more recommended drivers for this intel chipset?
[16:58] <subthalamus> are there better proprietary drivers?
[16:59] <Jamie_1> any ideas?
[16:59] <daftykins> Jamie_1: test a new user / guest account
[17:00] <Jamie_1> okay... have to log out in that case then
[17:00] <daftykins> mmhmm
[17:00] <compdoc> Jamie_1, could be a video card driver problem. what happens if you boot the Ubuntu live cd?
[17:00] <Jamie_1> compdoc: cant dont have a flash drive large enough right now
[17:01] <daftykins> Jamie_1: oh was this that fresh Lenovo install?
[17:01] <Jamie_1> yep
[17:01] <daftykins> ah-har
[17:01] <TJ-> subthalamus: the drivers are in the kernel
[17:01] <daftykins> Jamie_1: done much after the mini install + DE install?
[17:02] <nemith> so openconnect and some update in the last week is fucked
[17:02] <nemith> network-manager-openconnect that is
[17:02] <daftykins> nemith: unwelcome language
[17:02] <nemith> sorry
[17:03] <Jamie_1> daftykins: well... installed tb, firefox trunk, aurora, and beta... steam... change kernal version... installed sublime...
[17:04] <daftykins> Jamie_1: to which kernel?
[17:04] <Jamie_1> daftykins: 3.13
[17:04] <daftykins> but that's what 14.04 comes with
[17:05] <daftykins> hmm may've tried to give you a newer HWE kernel i guess
[17:05] <subthalamus> TJ-: wow, I'm a dinosaur
[17:05] <subthalamus> they don't do the binary drivers any more?
[17:05] <Jamie_1> daftykins: it came with 3.16
[17:05] <subthalamus> nvidia and ati/amd ?
[17:05] <daftykins> Jamie_1: ah yeah, 14.10 HWE stack then.
[17:06] <TJ-> subthalamus: it's an Intel device, all the Intel drivers are open-sourced and mainlined
[17:06] <ivan_on_trac> My OS is 64-bit. But I use 32-bit programs in compatibility mode.  "dpkg --add-architecture i386" - But after an upgrade from Ubuntu, the program no longer works properly.
[17:06] <Jamie_1> daftykins: yea... so i just manually rolled it back to 3.13
[17:06] <ivan_on_trac> My Ubuntu is 14.04
[17:06] <daftykins> Jamie_1: if that laptop has new enough hardware, it could be having an issue... but yeah still prefer to hear if another account has an issue too
[17:06] <subthalamus> TJ-: OK, so how do I verify that the intel drivers are the edgers variety?
[17:06] <Jamie_1> daftykins: brb going to check
[17:06] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: i don't think you are supposed to run that anymore.
[17:08] <ivan_on_trac> daftykins: why dot?!
[17:08] <TJ-> subthalamus: The kernel driver is part of the standard kernel packages. The Xorg drivers will come from the xserver-xorg-video-intel package I think it is
[17:08] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: because ubuntu is multiarch now
[17:08] <subthalamus> TJ-: if we're talking about  i915-3.19-3.13 , they have not been updated since january
[17:08] <subthalamus> don't video drivers get updated more frequently usually?
[17:09] <TJ-> subthalamus: no, no need, unless serious bugs are being fixed
[17:09] <Gallomimia> not so much. not for nvidia anyway
[17:09] <ivan_on_trac> daftykins: Since when ?
[17:09] <TJ-> !mainline | subthalamus you could try a more recent mainline kernel build
[17:10] <Jamie_1> daftykins: yep... same thing
[17:11] <daftykins> Jamie_1: ok, can you install 'pastebinit' and share an "lspci | pastebinit" ?
[17:12] <Jamie_1> daftykins: good thing i installed the alternative terminal
[17:12] <Jamie_1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960804/
[17:12] <daftykins> well there are TTYs too
[17:13] <OerHeks> ivan_on_trac, as of 11.10 > http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package/107249#107249
[17:13] <Jamie_1> daftykins: cant copy and paste with tty....
[17:13] <Jamie_1> i dont feel like writing down the pastbin #
[17:14] <daftykins> seriously :P
[17:14] <csb> Hello, does anyone know any opensource screen recording program for both Ubuntu and Windows 8.1 besides Open Broadcaster (OBS) ? I need something lightweight (even if that means record with low resolution like 800x600).
[17:14] <ivan_on_trac> OerHeks: But it was working. But the latest update broke something.
[17:15] <ivan_on_trac> And as I undo this setting? dpkg --add-architecture i386
[17:15] <bazhang> !info kazam
[17:15] <Jamie_1> daftykins: with the amount of stuff i do in one day... yes that little thing makes a difference... :P
[17:15] <bazhang> try kazam for ubuntu csb
[17:16] <bazhang> ##windows for the other csb
[17:16] <csb> bazhang, ty
[17:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: so this is gnome3?
[17:17] <Jamie_1> daftykins: yes... i would ask over there... but did and there is no one in there.... :/
[17:17] <daftykins> Jamie_1: i don't know anything about that DE or why a terminal would be blank, my only idea would be to try installing the v4 mainline kernel and see if the newer intel driver affects it in any way - but that might be totally wrong.
[17:18] <daftykins> !mainline
[17:18] <Jamie_1> daftykins: right now i am on unity de and its still doing the same thing...
[17:18] <ubuntu-mate> test
[17:18] <daftykins> Jamie_1: doing what specifically?
[17:18] <ubuntu-mate> Hello World
[17:19] <Jamie_1> daftykins: all pop up stuff like notifications for emails and stuff are just black bubbles.. firefox drop downs are black bubbles and the terminal is black
[17:20] <daftykins> Jamie_1: and you're totally fine with regards to a dist-upgrade?
[17:20] <Jamie_1> daftykins: i can try... but that may end with my annoying you more to get the correct gcc build stuff
[17:20] <Jamie_1> and it would have to wait till after 3 due to i have an online meeting at 2....
[17:20] <daftykins> Jamie_1: well you have to be up to date regardless. and i know nothing about gcc so fire away :P
[17:21] <daftykins> heh lets hope your meeting doesn't require any black bubbles
[17:21] <Jamie_1> skype... have to install and hope it works
[17:21] <daftykins> i've used it on ubuntu fine
[17:21] <Raulwynn> using ubuntu 15.04 and nvidia gtx 660 with nvidia 352.30 driver. Why can't I watch HD video on my computer?
[17:22] <Jamie_1> daftykins: i know it runs fine... the question is with my current problem will it run fine.....
[17:22] <Jamie_1> ;p
[17:22] <daftykins> ok
[17:22] <daftykins> well do it and find out instead of pondering :D
[17:23] <Jamie_1> i am right now....
[17:23] <Jamie_1> its install as we speak
[17:23] <Jamie_1> lol i keep trying to hot corner like on gnome....
[17:25] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: HD video from where?
[17:25] <CB6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960866/ is this smb.conf done right? Still not seeing the share and I figure it might be the conf file configuration.
[17:25] <Raulwynn> youtube/vimeo
[17:25] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: is is just super stuttery?
[17:26] <Raulwynn> It won't let me watch anything above 360. There is no option like my computer doesn't have the capability.
[17:26] <Raulwynn> Even at 360 (or whatever low resolution) it stutters
[17:26] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: can you link an example video?
[17:27] <Raulwynn> https://vimeo.com/groups/77343/videos/104314807
[17:27] <Raulwynn> Aargh! This video can’t be played with your current setup. is what it tells me
[17:27] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: well that does explain much...
[17:28] <Raulwynn> tgm4883: What is that?
[17:28] <Jamie_1> daftykins: works... just not very well right now... little challenging to operate without the drop downs
[17:28] <Raulwynn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcixldqDIEQ What is the highest resolution option you have?
[17:29] <Raulwynn> I'm reading it is an issue with firefox?
[17:30] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: 1920x1080 in Chrome
[17:30] <Raulwynn> Okay hold on. Lemme get Chrome
[17:40] <hackin88> hy
[17:45] <Raulwynn> tgm4883: Still holding me to 360p. Is there an issue with ubuntu not playing at a higher resolution? I've watched 1080p on this PC through winXP before
[17:45] <Austneal> I've accidentally told dpkg to overwrite my apache conf file while upgrading... apache2 hasn't reloaded, so everything is still working. But is there a way to recover my conf file?
[17:46] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: I'm not on my Ubuntu machine at the moment, but no, I've watched 1080p before from it
[17:47] <TJ-> Austneal: you should find that dpkg created a backup. look in /etc/apache2/ and sub-dirs for files ending ".dpkg-old" or similar
[17:47] <hackin88> Good afternoon companions
[17:47] <tgm4883> hackin88: do you have a question?
[17:47] <ioria> Raulwynn, what driver are you using ?
[17:48] <Raulwynn> 352.30
[17:49] <ioria> Raulwynn, using nouveau  on a GeForce GT 430 with no issue .  what cpu ?
[17:49] <Raulwynn> I'm running a dual core 2.2ghz
[17:49] <hackin88> I am new to using the IRC, I'm just testing this tool, thank you my friend
[17:49] <CB6> If ufw is off is there potential for samba to still be blocked?
[17:50] <ioria> Raulwynn, what dual core ?    cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:50] <Austneal> TJ-: I'm going to love you forever if that works.... one sec
[17:51] <Raulwynn> E4500
[17:51] <ioria> Raulwynn, was good on XP ?
[17:51] <Raulwynn> Yes
[17:51] <ioria> Raulwynn, with HD,  i mean ?
[17:51] <Raulwynn> Yes
[17:52] <Raulwynn> 1080p with no stuttering
[17:52] <timbozeman> would it be hard to make F8 send paste keys? (ctrl + v) I've looked at doing it with autohotkey, but it doesn't seem to do easy at the system level
[17:52] <Austneal> TJ-
[17:52] <Austneal> I love you xD
[17:52] <ioria> Raulwynn, did you try wih the default nouveau ? before installing nvidia ?
[17:52] <Raulwynn> Yes it was terrible
[17:53] <ioria> Raulwynn, ohhh
[17:53] <Raulwynn> 360p would stutter and break so bad.
[17:54] <ioria> Raulwynn, unity ?
[17:54] <Raulwynn> Yes
[17:55] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: are you sure you are using the prop drivers?
[17:55] <Raulwynn> 100%
[17:55] <Raulwynn> What should I do to make sure
[17:55] <tgm4883> well that doesn't sound like 100% ;)
[17:56] <ioria> Raulwynn, ubuntu-drivers list ?
[17:56] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: "glxinfo | grep OpenGL"
[17:56] <tgm4883> I don't have my ubuntu machine right now, but a quick search says that should work.
[17:56] <tgm4883> Can you pastebin the output of that Raulwynn
[17:57] <Lurchy> hey people...quick question about top
[17:57] <Raulwynn> hold on lemme install pastebin
[17:57] <Lurchy> why dont I see a cursor so I can type "k " to kill a process?
[17:58] <Raulwynn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11961042/
[17:58] <Lurchy> newbie using top for first time.....how do I bring up cursor to type?
[17:58] <tgm4883> Lurchy: what?
[17:58] <tgm4883> Lurchy: just hit k
[17:58] <tgm4883> Lurchy: no cursor needed
[17:58] <Lurchy> i can "q" out of top....
[17:58] <Lurchy> back to cml
[17:58] <Lurchy> err cmd prompt
[17:59] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: hmm, appears to be using it correctly
[17:59] <Raulwynn> I don't know... I mean my computer should have no problem with this.
[18:00] <Lurchy> was watching tutorial video on how to explore top....but I guess its different ubu release....it doesnt look the same
[18:00] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: well I agree, but the issue appears to be that your browser is saying it doesn't support those resolutions...
[18:00] <EriC^^> Lurchy: htop maybe?
[18:01] <Raulwynn> tgm4883: I got it.
[18:01] <Raulwynn> Not sure what happened but it started working.
[18:01] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: yea?
[18:01] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: weird
[18:01] <Lurchy> video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnSUX2otYos   look at video at around 39:20
[18:02] <Lurchy> why does his top screen have cursor at top and I dont?  is this where i kill processes?
[18:02] <Lurchy> just tryin to learn
[18:02] <Na3iL> hey, am searching for council member to join the meeting of #ubuntu-africa , anyone here
[18:02] <tgm4883> Lurchy: have you tried just hitting 'k'?
[18:03] <Lurchy> well...i dont want to start killing processes willy nilly.....lol....
[18:03] <tgm4883> Lurchy: then don't type in a PID after it ;)
[18:03] <Lurchy> ahh
[18:03] <Lurchy> the ki comes up now
[18:04] <tgm4883> :)
[18:04] <Lurchy> err prompts comes up now
[18:04] <Lurchy> i see...said the blind man
[18:04] <drfoobaz> Hi, my sound only plays as root. And my user is in the audio, pulse, and pulse-access groups.
[18:04] <tgm4883> Na3iL: maybe try #ubuntu-community-team
[18:05] <Na3iL> ty tgm4883
[18:06] <Lurchy> ok...so another dumb question...where can I find a list of all promgrams that are NOT running in top....so i can do a /etc/init.d/(process) start
[18:06] <Lurchy> ?
[18:07] <tgm4883> uh
[18:07] <Lurchy> like if I want to openssh into my server box and restart a vnc type server process?
[18:07] <tgm4883> Lurchy: well that would be the wrong way to start a service, although that is where they are
[18:07] <EriC^^> Lurchy: service --status-all might be useful
[18:07] <tgm4883> EriC^^: +1
[18:08] <spjt> service --status-all | egrep '\[ -' | awk '{print $4}'
[18:08] <drfoobaz> Anyone know about my sound issue?
[18:09] <stacks88> when i ran apt-get install screen i got these 2 messages, what do they mean? #1 update-rc.d: warning: default start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Start values (S) and #2 update-rc.d: warning: default stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Stop values (none)
[18:11] <Lurchy> tgm4883: what is the correct way to start a process that is running(but not responding) or start a service that is not currently running?
[18:11] <Lurchy> can I do a etc/init.d?
[18:11] <Lurchy> or restart
[18:12] <tgm4883> Lurchy: 'service <SERVICENAME> <COMMAND>' where <COMMAND> could be start, stop, restart, status
[18:13] <Lurchy> long story short...I use splashtop(vnc type program) cause I can tunnel out of work to all my puters at once...but it keeps dieing and not respondings from my ubuntu server box behind my router
[18:13] <Lurchy> just trying to learn how to reboot the program
[18:13] <Lurchy> ahh
[18:13] <Lurchy> ok...
[18:14] <drfoobaz> So how can I get sound to play without root? My user is already in all the sound related groups.
[18:21] <Lurchy> cool...figured it out
[18:24] <stacks88> when i ran apt-get install screen i got these 2 messages, what do they mean? #1 update-rc.d: warning: default start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Start values (S) and #2 update-rc.d: warning: default stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Stop values (none).. never got these before, is there anything wrong?
[18:29] <TJ-> stacks88: looks like the package postinst script is setting launch runlevels different to those the sysv init script declares
[18:29] <stacks88> ive installed screen tons of times before, and i never got that message.. so im trying to understand why would that happen now? when i havent touched or done anything on this particular box
[18:30] <stacks88> and so what should i do, just leave it?
[18:30] <stacks88> maybe its becuase i didnt run apt-get update and upgrade first?
[18:30] <TJ-> stacks88: never seen that reported, but 14.04 install here has that script ("/etc/init.d/screen-cleanup") and it declares runlevel "S" but is installed to the multiuser runlevels via "/etc/rc[23455].d/S20screen-cleanup"
[18:30] <DWSR> Hey, I'm having an issue with Network Manager not being started when a user logs in. I can start Network Manager manually and proper functionality is restored. How can I resolve this?
[18:31] <TJ-> DWSR: Network Manager, or just the nmapplet GUI?
[18:31] <DWSR> TJ-: Actual Network Manager. nm-applet is actually starting and saying "Network Manager is not started"
[18:32] <TJ-> DWSR: Assuming its using Upstart, check that there isn't a "/etc/init/network-manager.override" making it a manual start
[18:33] <DWSR> TJ-: I'm on 14.04, which is still upstart.
[18:33] <wad> Weird. I've got two processes that won't die, even with kill -9 as root.
[18:37] <pritam> when I restarted mint .it themes became high contrast. very bad look .what should I do ?
[18:37] <tmmunq> im using 14.04 with the full disk encryption, and for the last few kernel updates i am unable to enter the password on boot. what do i do? i am stuck on old kernel, -55 i think
[18:38] <daftykins> !mint | pritam sorry.
[18:38] <samuelaccomo> ciao
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> !it | samuelaccomo
[18:38] <samuelaccomo> !list^
[18:39] <Raulwynn> Is there anyway to install office 2013 with ubuntu?
[18:39] <DWSR> TJ-: lol, apt didn't put network-manager into upstart.
[18:39] <DWSR> Raulwynn: Wine.
[18:39] <nicomachus> Raulwynn: there is, but is there a reason that something like LibreOffice Word doesn't work for what you have in mind?
[18:39] <Raulwynn> DWSR: I tried. I get errored out
[18:39] <Raulwynn> Yeah I have to have office for my work.
[18:40] <Raulwynn> It's Office Professional Plus with Lync
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> Raulwynn: playonlinux or office 2013 web apps for ubuntu
[18:40] <DWSR> Raulwynn: Guess you have to run a VM or dual boot then
[18:40] <nicomachus> ahhhh... Lync. :/
[18:40] <Raulwynn> Yeah.
[18:40] <Raulwynn> Fun huh?
[18:40] <DWSR> Raulwynn: You could just run Lync/SfB on another device.
[18:40] <DWSR> And SfB is very useful.
[18:40] <Raulwynn> DWSR: What is SfB?
[18:40] <DWSR> Skype for Business. Lync has been rebranded.
[18:41] <Raulwynn> Are you sure I can use my VPN with that?
[18:41] <DWSR> TJ-: Do you know what the normal run level for network-manager is?
[18:41] <DWSR> Do you need to have a VPN connected in order to use Lync?
[18:42] <Raulwynn> Yes. Actually, maybe not.
[18:42] <DWSR> Raulwynn: Are you an Office 365 org?
[18:42] <Raulwynn> I don't think that Lync goes through the VPN
[18:42] <Raulwynn> No
[18:42] <Raulwynn> They purchase the Pro Plus 2013 for all employees
[18:43] <DWSR> So Lync is on-premises?
[18:43] <Raulwynn> Yes.
[18:43] <DWSR> Raulwynn: That doesn't mean that you don't have Office 365.
[18:43] <Raulwynn> We do not have Office 365
[18:43] <Raulwynn> I promise.
[18:43] <Raulwynn> They buy lifetime licences.
[18:44] <Raulwynn> I'm trying a vmachine using vbox but it's not installing very fast at all
[18:44] <DWSR> Raulwynn: That's fine. You can buy perpetual 2013 licenses and still use Office 365 for the online services. That's what my org does. We're a not for profit and we have sponsored 2013 proplus licensing. with Enterprise E2 plans.
[18:45] <CB6> I'm getting this error  * Restarting web server apache2                                                AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS>. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[18:45] <Raulwynn> DWSR: So how does that help me run Office on Ubuntu... I'm confused
[18:45] <CB6> I noticed when I enter in apache it shows fine but for php.ini it doesn't display.
[18:46] <CB6> my local ip isn't ending in 1 it's 101. How do I alter this as per the above error.
[18:46] <DWSR> Raulwynn: If it doesn't work in Wine or Cedega, you can't. You'll need to use some alternative setup, such as a VM, dual boot, or using just the Skype for Business portion on another device.
[18:47] <jeriko> hola a todos buenas tardes
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> !es | jeriko
[18:47] <Raulwynn> DWSR: Why did they stop support of XP :( I guess I'm going to have to buy a new machine soon! :)
[18:47] <jeriko> gracias
[18:47] <DWSR> Raulwynn: Because XP is a horrible bug-ridden mess that was based on code from 20 years ago and was EOLed about 5 years too late.
[18:48] <DWSR> Raulwynn: 7 is MUCH better, and 10 is better still.
[18:48] <Traumatizer> I broke my Ubuntu and don´t know how to fix it, could anyone offer some assistance maybe? :)
[18:48] <p1und3r> DWSR: whats wrong with 20 year old code, *cough* unix :D
[18:48] <p1und3r> 40 year old code ftw
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Traumatizer
[18:48] <stacks88> TJ- so should I just edit /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup and change at the top where it says Default-Start: S to 2 3 4 5 and change Default-Stop to 0 1 6 ? cause it kept saying  default start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Start values (S) and default stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Stop values (none) , im running 14.04
[18:49] <DWSR> p1und3r: Not everything is 40 years old in Unix, iirc there's been a rewrite or two.
[18:49] <Raulwynn> I tell you what. My win XP would game circles around any Win 7 of similar hardware because the OS was using almost ZERO resources.
[18:49] <p1und3r> DWSR: true but still :p
[18:49] <p1und3r> old doesn't mean bad
[18:49] <DWSR> Raulwynn: You can say that, except that's literally been disproven.
[18:49] <p1und3r> microsoft means bad
[18:49] <p1und3r> :P
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> guys keep ubuntu ontopic
[18:50] <Raulwynn> DWSR: With nothing running my CPU is at 0% and my ram at 76mb... Win 7 my CPU is at 2% and my ram at 2000+mb
[18:50] <p1und3r> sorry i thought i was in #bashmicrosoft
[18:50] <p1und3r> :)
[18:50] <DWSR> TJ-: For whatever reason, the network-manager service doesn't start unless I'm logged in with a particular user. Thoughts on why?
[18:50] <Raulwynn> Sorry.
[18:51] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: that must be a fun game, "Desktop"
[18:51] <Traumatizer> I tried to install popcorn-time, it produced the error that it could not find the shared oject file libudev.so.0 and therefore crashed. Only I found the solution to link libudev.so.0 to libudev.so.1, So i tried this to it still didnt work, so I unlinked the file again and just gave up. But know Chrome can´t start either anymore because apparently it also akes use of this same shared object file. How can I just reset everything with regards
[18:51] <Traumatizer> to the libudev.so.0 file?
[18:51] <nicomachus> Traumatizer: purge it and reinstall.
[18:52] <Traumatizer> like: sudo apt-get purge libudev.so.0?
[18:52] <DWSR> Raulwynn: So? XP never had a proper 64bit release and so it was limited to 3.7GB, or slightly more with PAE (but worse performancewise). I can shove 32GB of RAM in my 7 machine. Additionally, I have better default hardware detection, more features, a completely new window manager, and a ton more.
[18:52] <xangua> Traumatizer: are you using 12.04? A 32 bit IS?
[18:52] <nicomachus> same with popcorntime to fix that error. I would also suggest installing popcorntime from the webupd8 team ppa instead of compiling from the source on the popcorntime site. It's always worked better for me personally. YMMV
[18:52] <Traumatizer> xangua, no latest Ubuntu 64-bit..
[18:52] <xangua> !ot | DWSR Raulwynn
[18:53] <Traumatizer> nicomachus, have also tried that. But doesn´t work either. I think somehow i really broke the libudev.so.0 package or something
[18:53] <xangua> Traumatizer: latest what? What Ubuntu release? Where did you download popcorn and how did you install it?
[18:53] <p1und3r> Traumatizer: you said all u did was symlink it?
[18:53] <p1und3r> just undo what u did :p
[18:54] <rootgjhack13> boreddddddddddddd
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> rootgjhack13: not the channel for this
[18:54] <Traumatizer> xangua 14.04.02 LTS 64-bit; plund3r i did unlink it already.
[18:56] <subzer0> hello world
[18:57] <rootgjhack13_> hello mars
[18:57] <otenh> High
[18:58] <otenh> Hi guys how far with the meeting
[18:58] <xangua> Traumatizer: have you trying searching at popcorn forum? I remember reading something about your issue, not sure tho
[18:58] <k1l_> otenh: what meeting? this is the ubuntu support channel.
[18:58] <rootgjhack13_> op yyuuuuukkk oooppppp
[18:59] <otenh> Ooo them I am in the wrong pls
[18:59] <Bashing-om> Traumatizer: If it is any help, I too run google-chrome on 14.04; My results : sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0 >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 11  2012 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0 -> libudev.so.0.13.0 . Seems the symlink is required.
[19:00] <Traumatizer> Oh, so actually but I unlinking I removed a link google chrome requires. Bashing-om;
[19:01] <Traumatizer> Gonna re-link and see what happens, still strange actually that popcorn-time than doesnt work.
[19:02] <xangua> Traumatizer: apparently you need the 32 bit package, I think that's what I did long ago. sudo apt-get install libudev0:i386
[19:03] <Traumatizer> Xangua; that no longer exists, I found that solution too.
[19:03] <Traumatizer> E: Package 'libudev0:i386' has no installation candidate
[19:03] <xangua> No longer exist? Maybe I did it for 12.04?
[19:04] <Traumatizer> Could very well be
[19:04] <Traumatizer> Im just gonna remove Chrome and than reinstall it, my guess is that it´ll fix it at least to its original state
[19:04] <nicomachus> ^ :)
[19:05] <ioria> !info libudev1
[19:06] <ioria> !info libgudev-1.0-0
[19:10] <takuan> who do I turn to for issues with hibernation in ubuntu?
[19:10] <takuan> is this a kernel thing?
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> takuan: ask away in the channel mate
[19:10] <nicomachus> !ask | takuan
[19:11] <takuan> ok, simple thing
[19:12] <takuan> I set swappiness to 0, I have nothing in swap, hibernate, un-hibernate, my swap has more than 1gig of stuff in it
[19:12] <Traumatizer> ubottu, xangua; Reinstall of chrome fixed the issue. With the dependencies it probably placed the right libs in the right directories again. Idk really, but it works again :D
[19:12] <takuan> worse of all it all gets swapped back in at 1-2 mb/s
[19:12] <takuan> which is damn slow and hangs the system for 2 minutes
[19:12] <takuan> why on earth is the kernel keeping all this stuff in the swap file which basically wasn't there in the first place
[19:12] <takuan> even with swappiness put to 0
[19:12] <takuan> ?
[19:12] <nicomachus> Traumatizer: Great news. So what's the status on popcorntime then?
[19:13] <xangua> takuan: why not just suspend?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> takuan: investigate your syslog and dmesg while hibernating
[19:13] <xangua> takuan: putting that setting to 0 doesn't mean it will not use swap
[19:15] <mcphail> takuan: of course hibernate puts everything in swap. What did you think it did?
[19:16] <takuan> lotuspsychje: i did, nothing there
[19:17] <takuan> xangua: why waste energy when you don't need to ?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> takuan: tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg and fool around with hibernate until it freezes
[19:17] <takuan> mcphail: it's supposed to put everything back in memory isn't it?
[19:18] <takuan> tuxonice does that nicely but it's no longer stable
[19:18] <takuan> lotuspsychje: I'll try it, but I'm afraid I know the answer
[19:18] <mcphail> takuan: and putting everything back in memory takes a long time. TBH, I think it doesn't even try to put everything, due to the lag
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> takuan: and check htop maybe, see wich process gets high before freeze
[19:20] <mcphail> takuan: if you want speed, use an SSD or suspend rather than hibernate. Hibernate is always rumoured to be being deprecated anyway
[19:20] <takuan> lotuspsychje: firefox and chromium
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> takuan: do you own an ssd in your system to set swappiness to 0?
[19:20] <takuan> mcphail: suspend uses energy when doing nothing
[19:20] <takuan> I want to come back after a night and have my system up
[19:20] <mcphail> takuan: it isn't doing nothing, though, is it?
[19:20] <takuan> mcphail: check it with a meter, in suspend it is using 2 watt
[19:21] <takuan> and your monitor as well
[19:21] <takuan> lotuspsychje: it's a semi ssd
[19:21] <xangua> takuan: if you mean tux on ice PPA,I see it's updated for supported Ubuntu release
[19:21] <takuan> hybrid drive
[19:21] <mcphail> takuan: of course - it takes power to keep your RAM ticking over. If you want speed, current technology says you have to pay for it
[19:21] <takuan> xangua: yup, but not stable on my system
[19:22] <takuan> mcphail: my system should actually fly but for some reason firefox and chromium are swapped in at 2mb/s
[19:22] <takuan> god knows why
[19:22] <mcphail> takuan: a hybrid drive is no better than a standard HDD for hibernate
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> takuan: tweak system a bit, see if that gets your system faster, swappiness 10, install preload,clean with bleachbit
[19:22] <takuan> mcphail: with 8 gb of ssd in it?
[19:22] <takuan> the actual unhibernate (not the swapping afterwards) takes 2 seconds or something
[19:23] <mcphail> takuan: of course. The SSD is taken up by frequently accessed files. The contents of your memory are a random write
[19:23] <takuan> lotuspsychje: the weird thing is that in the beginning it keeps it at 0 after hibernate, after a few hibernation cycles it suddenly jumps to 1 gig
[19:23] <takuan> mcphail: don't get your point
[19:23] <lotuspsychje_> takuan: as mcphail says hybrid is bit like classical drive not real ssd
[19:24] <takuan> the swap file is used all the time because I'm frequently hibernating
[19:24] <takuan> it get read in very fast
[19:24] <lotuspsychje_> takuan: might take your settings lower
[19:24] <takuan> but for some reason not everything is put back to memory
[19:24] <takuan> lotuspsychje_: swappiness?
[19:24] <takuan> it's at 0 now
[19:24] <mcphail> takuan: the swap file is constantly changing. That is not something which can be improved with a hybrid drive - the SSD cache will cache files which are frequently-used and not changing
[19:24] <takuan> I tried 10, 1 and 0, all the same it would seem
[19:25] <takuan> mcphail: then why is the unhibernate process so quick?
[19:25] <lotuspsychje_> takuan: reccomended for real ssd is 10, i would try 60 to test your case
[19:25] <takuan> lotuspsychje_: 60 was the same
[19:25] <takuan> that's where I started
[19:25] <mcphail> takuan: because the kernel can load what it needs from swap. It only gives the appearance of being quick
[19:25] <takuan> I presumed that turing it down would improve it, but it stays the same
[19:26] <mcphail> takuan: you can't magically transfer 8GB from a spinning disk into your RAM
[19:26] <takuan> mcphail: the ssd cache on the drive is 8gb
[19:26] <takuan> the hibernation image on the swapfile should be about 1-2 gig
[19:26] <mcphail> takuan: yep - and the cache will be occupied by frequently-accessed files - not your swap
[19:27] <takuan> I guess that firefox has a ton of little files open which get swapped in slowly then?
[19:27] <mcphail> takuan: yes - and a ton of libraries which get swapped in slowly
[19:27] <takuan> is there a way to find out what part of a process is actually swapped and what not?
[19:28] <mcphail> takuan: I think so, but just about _everything_ you have will be in swap when you resume from hibernate
[19:28] <takuan> anyway, this bug seem to have been there for ages: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/329199
[19:29] <takuan> btw, the last post is mine at the time I was under the impression that changing swapiness would do something
[19:29] <mcphail> takuan: as I said, hibernate gets little attention because it is always rumoured for deprecation. It has never worked well
[19:29] <takuan> mcphail: who actually works on it?
[19:29] <Traumatizer> why´s ubuntu´s swappiness so high in the first place? It´s almost 60 while for 1GB+ its my understanding that something like 0-10 is better
[19:29] <mcphail> takuan: you'd need to check the kernel sources
[19:29] <lotuspsychje_> takuan: you can always make sugestions to #ubuntu-devel
[19:30] <lotuspsychje_> Traumatizer: default 60 is good for common systems without ssd
[19:30] <mcphail> Traumatizer: if you have a decent amount of RAM, just don't use swap (and, by implication, don't use hibernate)
[19:31] <Traumatizer> Ohh lotuspsychje, but if you have enough RAM why would you want to use swap at all?
[19:31] <Traumatizer> So wouldnt that make 60 too high for common systems
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> Traumatizer: every system is different, tweak as you need it
[19:31]  * mcphail has a swap partition but can't remember the last time his system ever used it
[19:32] <Traumatizer> I think mine uses it right now
[19:32] <Traumatizer> Im on a cracky dell laptop of 6 years old
[19:32] <mcphail> Traumatizer: I would rather have a process killed, than it using swap and bogging down my system
[19:33] <Traumatizer> I had this great idea of writing a standalone client for Google Docs in Python. So I created a project folder and wanted to write the first line but I have like no clue how to even begin. So that project is getting abondend before it even started haha
[19:34] <Traumatizer> Wrong channel; my bad.
[19:35] <qmas> buenas, alguien?
[19:37] <norman> hola ubuntu mate?
[19:37] <xangua> !es
[19:43] <Guest89159> km,m
[19:43] <Guest89159> l
[19:43] <Nokaji> When I shutdown/restart Ubuntu, am I supposed to unmount my drives first?
[19:44] <Guest89159> hej
[19:44] <Pici> Nokaji: no, the system does that for you.
[19:45] <Nokaji> Pici: okay, i uspected they would have said if necessary however I tried it and it was damn fast
[19:46] <Nokaji> hit bios screen in an instant, no signing off messages/screens
[19:47] <Nokaji> i reckon an auto script attached tot he restart button would speed things up
[20:02] <K4k> If I add "password_pbkdf2 dummy_user grub.pbkdf2.sha512.10000.XXXXXXX" etc. to my 40_custom file in grub.d I get "password_pbkdf2: not found"
[20:02] <Aleksandar86> somebody here can help me with Firebird server on Ubuntu?
[20:02] <xangua> !ask
[20:02] <joshua__> hello
[20:03] <xentity1x> Has anyone ever tried installing ubuntu on a chromebooK?
[20:03] <artois> yes
[20:03] <artois> hi josh
[20:03] <Pici> xentity1x: google's crouton project can do that
[20:03] <joshua__> i just installed ubuntu ; and i have windows 7 installed on this hard-drive ; when i start my cpu , i dont get any prompts to select an o.s ; it just says "mode not supported" on my monitor then boots directly to ubuntu ,
[20:03] <K4k> Anyone know if there's another file in grub.d that needs something added in order to allow grub pbkdf2 password protection to be enabled? I have done this before and I swear that all I have to do is add two lines to 40_custom but there must be something else because it's not working this time.
[20:04] <Pici> xentity1x: https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
[20:04] <Pici> (or maybe not Google's, but whatever)
[20:04] <xentity1x> Pici, I'm more curious about the user experience. I'm wondering what it would be like to programming on it.
[20:04] <joshua__> can anyone direct me to any documents on how to fix this?
[20:04] <artois> crouton is the gimpy way
[20:04] <Aleksandar86> how can i see any opened port in local on Ubuntu?
[20:04] <Aleksandar86> some command like a netstat in windows?
[20:04] <Pici> xentity1x: it works fine for me. Theres some networking weirdness, but beyond that its just like a normal install.
[20:05] <k1l_> Aleksandar86: netstat is a unix command. just use that on ubuntu too
[20:05] <xentity1x> Pici, what kind of networking weirdness?
[20:05] <artois> xent, they're ordinary laptops
[20:05] <Pici> Aleksandar86: its called 'netstat' ;)  see netstat -tan  , or sudo netstat -tanp
[20:05] <xentity1x> Pici, also do you now if it will affect the battery life
[20:05] <Aleksandar86> netstat -a
[20:05] <Aleksandar86> ?
[20:05] <Aleksandar86> or?
[20:05] <artois> battery life is good, as they're designed for Linux
[20:05] <k1l_> Aleksandar86: "man netstat" will tell you all the options you would like
[20:06] <Aleksandar86> ok. tnx
[20:06] <Pici> xentity1x: its basically ubuntu in a chroot environment, so chromeos itself is taking care of the networking, and Ubuntu only sees part of it (or at least thats what it looked like, I didn't get it into it too much).  It worked just fine on wifi for me, and battery life is great.
[20:07] <artois> you can install gnu/linux to metal without crouton for some chromebooks
[20:07] <orbited> I just want to cheer for the ubuntu crowd. Finally I put my old PowerPC G4 to good use. Works like a charm.
[20:07] <xentity1x> Pici, ok think im going to buy one. What model do you have?
[20:08] <artois> xen, check the model can have its os replaced before buying
[20:08] <xentity1x> Pici, I was thinking about getting this http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Chromebook-12-Inch-Gigabit-Storage/dp/B00KGI4XBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438200457&sr=8-1&keywords=chromebook+32+gb
[20:08] <xentity1x> artois Picci, I'm looking for one that has half way decent specs
[20:09] <joshua__> welll , i just did sudo update-grub ; and i still cant access my windows partition ; it still just says mode not supported doesnt show any bios messages or anything and just boots directly to ubuntu
[20:09] <joshua__> this is driving me nuts i dont even know what to search for
[20:10] <Pici> xentity1x: I bought one of these: http://goo.gl/3GI6w0 it was fine for what I needed it for.
[20:10] <artois> josh, what says mode?
[20:10] <joshua__> my monitor
[20:11] <joshua__> i press the power button , my monitor hangs on "mode not supported" ; displays no bios msg's then boots directly to ubuntu ; i get no boot options
[20:11] <artois> okay, probably unrelated
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> joshua__  probably a screen resolution issue or so
[20:12] <Aleksandar86> in localhost on Ubuntu netstat say 3050 is openet port, but when i check from CLIENT this port is closed
[20:12] <Aleksandar86> what i wrom
[20:12] <Aleksandar86> *wrong
[20:12] <Aleksandar86> some firewall
[20:13] <Aleksandar86> this is firebird database port
[20:13] <joshua__> its been running fine untill now ; isnt the "screen resolution" set via software ; not my monitor
[20:13] <Aleksandar86> i want setup server on UBUNTU, and clients on WINDOWS
[20:14] <orbited> Aleksandar86: you could nmap from the client and see if the port is open?
[20:14] <artois> josh, the mode msg is not related
[20:14] <hgoswh> What is that linux program called that totally wipes your data clean without possibility of retreval?
[20:14] <Pici> orbited: thats not really a great solution as you can be listening for connections only from your local machine.
[20:14] <Aleksandar86> i try TELNET from windows <IP_ADDRESS>:3050 (IP on UBUNTU) and say me is CLOSED
[20:15] <artois> hgoswh: dd
[20:15] <Pici> Aleksandar86: What does the line in netstat say? is it actually listening on <IP_ADDRESS>, or is it listening on <IP_ADDRESS>? or what?
[20:15] <Aleksandar86> but in local on Ubuntu say is opened
[20:15] <hgoswh> artois:
[20:15] <hgoswh> dd is the name?
[20:15] <artois> yes, pre-installed
[20:15] <TJ-> joshua__: that sounds like you may have an incorrect resolution defined for the GRUB boot-loader... see what "grep GRUB_GFX /etc/default/grub" reports
[20:15] <artois> dd if=/dev/zero of=becareful
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> joshua__  or even a refresh rate
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> (does that makre sense?)
[20:16] <Aleksandar86> <IP_ADDRESS>:3050 LISTEN and <IP_ADDRESS>:3050 ESTABILISHED
[20:16] <Aleksandar86> Pici
[20:16] <artois> he's trying to boot windows, guys
[20:16] <daftykins> Aleksandar86: so it's not listening on the LAN then
[20:16] <artois> not change his res
[20:17] <Pici> Aleksandar86: That means that only connections from your local machine can connect to that.  You'd need to modify your server's configuration to listen on all addresses.
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> my LAN ip on Ubuntu is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> i can access on 80 port
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> from client
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> on Firebirdwebadmin
[20:17] <orbited> hgoswh Or use srm for files?
[20:17] <hgoswh> ok
[20:17] <joshua__> grub_gfxmode=640x480
[20:17] <joshua__>  grub_gfxmode=640x480
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> Pici please help me how?
[20:17] <joshua__> srry
[20:18] <Aleksandar86> please
[20:19] <TJ-> joshua__: OK, that isn't going to be out of range. When the PC powers on from cold do you see the firmware/BIOS messages/splash screen before the monitor reports bad mode?
[20:19] <joshua__> nope
[20:19] <joshua__> nothing
[20:20] <Pici> Aleksandar86: I'm not familiar with firebird. I don't know where it stores its configuration, its documentation should make this clear.
[20:20] <TJ-> joshua__: In that case there's something up with the monitor. Have you powered it fully off at the wall socket for a minute or so in case its got 'confused' ?
[20:20] <Aleksandar86> Pici i need find config and change localhost on <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[20:21] <Aleksandar86> firebird config
[20:21] <Pici> Aleksandar86: yes
[20:21] <TJ-> Aleksandar86: any process only listening on localhost a.k.a. <IP_ADDRESS> is *NOT* reachable from any other host!
[20:21] <joshua__> i had ubuntu and windows 7 both installed and running fine ; and today my cpu went to upgrade to windows 10 .. then stopped showing windows 7 when i bootedup .. so i reinstalled ubuntu thinking it would give me an option to boot my win7 and now i got this mess
[20:22] <Aleksandar86> Pici why i dont see port <IP_ADDRESS>:80 in local ubuntu, but HTTP work prom clients?
[20:22] <Aleksandar86> apach i started
[20:23] <reisio> hgoswh: srm is overkill, but shred -n 1 is fine
[20:23] <Pici> Aleksandar86: because each service has its own confugration. Apache is listening your outside IP, but firebird is configured to only listen to inside connections.
[20:24] <Pici> Aleksandar86: this is normal, as often your applications runs locally, and there is no need to expose connections to your database to outside of your computer
[20:24] <reisio> hgoswh: shred -un 1 :)
[20:24] <skyofideas2015> hi I just got malware everytime I try to click on any link in chromium or firefox I get a popup that goes to ad-type.google.com/rot.aspx and then redirects to totalperformance
[20:24] <hgoswh> ok cool
[20:24] <hgoswh> thansk
[20:24] <skyofideas2015> when I checked  both browsers addons and plugins I find nothing
[20:24] <skyofideas2015> my home dir is encrypted and I even tried with clamscan and it also found nothing
[20:25] <wileee> skyofideas2015, clean it reset it, malware no.
[20:25] <skyofideas2015> ok
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> skyofideas2015  delete the hidden folder ~/.cache ... that should do
[20:25] <reisio> might want to mv ~/.cache first
[20:25] <reisio> instead of deleting
[20:25] <skyofideas2015> i did that with firefox
[20:25] <skyofideas2015> but nothing
[20:26] <wileee> skyofideas2015, Did what and to whom are you speaking?
[20:26] <skyofideas2015> I deleted ~/.cache/mozilla
[20:26] <reisio> mv next time :p
[20:27] <wileee> !who | skyofideas2015 try to always
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> skyofideas2015  try moving or deleting the complete .cache folder
[20:27] <skyofideas2015> ok
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> firebird manual say config is in OPT ubuntu folder
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> but i dont see any file in this folder
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> im on root
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> in terminal
[20:27] <reisio> Aleksandar86: dpkg -L firebird | less
[20:29] <Aleksandar86> resio, what is  | less?
[20:30] <reisio> Aleksandar86: | is a pipe, less is a pager, both of which you'll use a lot once you know about them
[20:31] <K4k> !single
[20:31] <reisio> Aleksandar86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_(Unix) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_pager
[20:31] <wileee> K4k, Whatcha looking for?
[20:31] <K4k> single user mode
[20:31] <reisio> Aleksandar86: also if you type r-e-i then hit tab, probably even in mIRC, it will complete my nickname for you
[20:32] <K4k> I tried adding "single" to the end of the boot line in grub but it just sits at a black screen
[20:32] <wileee> K4k, You have any link to that methodology?
[20:32] <skyofideas2015> MonkeyDust that didn't work
[20:32] <k1l_> K4k: "text"
[20:32] <K4k> k1l_: thanks
[20:33] <K4k> wileee: was trying: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[20:33] <K4k> I've foobar'd something in pam and need to get in to root without a password prompt to correct it
[20:34] <wileee> K4k, Thanks never heard that wording for a text boot, carry on. ;)
[20:34] <k1l_> K4k: then you want the recovery boot
[20:37] <K4k> k1l_: I think that did it, thanks
[20:42] <anonymous_> calling any and all anonymous
[20:43] <reisio> anonymous_: #phones
[20:43] <anonymous_> lol
[20:44]  * wileee thinks of Lilly Tomlin as the operator
[20:44] <reisio> heh
[20:44] <anonymous_> so do you know any good places to practise hacking
[20:45] <jozhua> this is becoming highly frustrating ; no bios screen , no boot options , just directly to ubuntu ,  ive searched and searched - boot repair / grub update etc etc..
[20:45] <wileee> jozhua, Single or dualboot?
[20:45] <k1l_> anonymous_: you mean illegal cracking, and that is, obviously, not support in the ubuntu community or the freenode network.
[20:46] <anonymous_> idk what single or duelboot is im new to the comunity
[20:46] <jozhua> well its single now haha.. i have win7 on here ,
[20:46] <reisio> anonymous_: anyplace
[20:46] <jozhua> but i have no options for anything
[20:46] <reisio> jozhua: nick change?
[20:46] <tgm4883> anonymous_: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:47] <jozhua> reisio, that nick was registered ; and i rebooted
[20:47] <anonymous_> i have alot of tools idk how to use most of them
[20:47] <reisio> mmm
[20:47] <wileee> jozhua, Let us know if we can help. ;)
[20:47] <reisio> joz is harder to type
[20:47] <reisio> anonymous_: man up
[20:47] <jozhua> ive tried so many diff. things del , f11 , f2 , still cant see my bios messages , nor can i get a boot menu
[20:47] <reisio> jozhua: pastebin /etc/fstab and the output of sudo lsblk -f
[20:47] <reisio> jozhua: and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:47] <reisio> jozhua: nevermind fstab :)
[20:48] <K4k> How about this one. Running `update-grub` produces "sed: -e expression #1, char 7: unknown option to `s'"
[20:48] <K4k> I've not modified any sed lines to my knowledge
[20:48] <anonymous_> anyone know of anonymous os
[20:48] <EriC^^> jozhua: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link
[20:49] <k1l_> anonymous_: this is ubuntu only support. for chat there is ##chat as channel
[20:49] <jozhua>  http://pastebin.com/6HuRSqta
[20:50] <reisio> jozhua: sudo lsblk -f
[20:51] <anonymous_> anonymous os is ubuntu
[20:51] <nicomachus> no it's not.
[20:51] <jozhua> i dont know what those commands are and i dont really want to run them as root if im not sure what they do ;/
[20:51] <TJ-> jozhua: does the PC have multi monitors by any chance?
[20:51] <k1l_> anonymous_: its offtopic in here.
[20:51] <jozhua> next youll have me sudo rm -rf /
[20:51] <jozhua> tj nah its just one monitor
[20:51] <reisio> jozhua: it just prints information about your partitions
[20:51] <reisio> jozhua: lsblk -f without root if you want
[20:51] <wileee> jozhua, This channel has everyone watching, per reviewed.
[20:51] <tgm4883> !danger
[20:51] <reisio> root does almost the same thing
[20:51] <k1l_> jozhua: we dont do that malicious commands in here.
[20:51] <wileee> peer*
[20:51] <EriC^^> jozhua: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 , read the above ^
[20:51] <tgm4883> jozhua: don't post those commands in here
[20:52] <TJ-> jozhua: does the PC have multiple monitor outputs? I've seen this happen where the monitor is *not* connected to the Primary monitor so nothing 'appears' until the OS starts
[20:52] <reisio> jozhua: command you said wouldn't do anything anyway
[20:52] <reisio> not that your point isn't taken
[20:52] <TJ-> s/Primary monitor/Primary Output/
[20:52] <jozhua> tj yes i have 2
[20:53] <jozhua> reisio, what ouput did you want from lsblk -f
[20:53] <jozhua> i have fd0 and sda
[20:53] <TJ-> jozhua: The BIOS will have one of those outputs as it's primary... I'm wondering if the monitor has been accidentally connected to the Secondary instead
[20:53] <reisio> jozhua: all of it, with sudo
[20:53] <jozhua> reisio, paste bin it?
[20:54] <reisio> please
[20:54] <jozhua> TJ-, my monitor is hdmi ; only one video card has hdmi ouputs
[20:54] <tgm4883> jozhua: what is the other video card?
[20:54] <TJ-> jozhua: was the monitor working in the current configuration at BIOS POST time prior to the apt-get update you did?
[20:55] <jozhua> http://pastebin.com/wNKcY8br
[20:55] <jozhua> tj ; yah everything was working fine earlier today
[20:55] <jozhua> i have a built in video card that i can connect with normal vga connections to my monitor
[20:55] <EriC^^> jozhua: can you pastebin /etc/default/grub ?
[20:56] <TJ-> jozhua: I strongly suspect this is what has happened - do you have a VGA monitor you can hook up to test the other connections?
[20:56] <TJ-> jozhua: as you don't get any monitor output at power-on BIOS POST time there's nothing the operating system can do to influence that
[20:57] <jozhua> http://pastebin.com/b5CCHJbB
[20:57] <TJ-> jozhua: Possibly, the BIOS setup config has a primary-monitor option, which has somehow reset itself to another output
[20:57] <jozhua> sure i can hook up the monitor via vga
[20:57] <TJ-> jozhua: That'd be my first move in this situation
[20:58] <jozhua> and EriC^^ http://termbin.com/eyli
[20:59] <EriC^^> jozhua: it looks good, grub is set to show and it has a menu entry for windows
[20:59] <jozhua> tj- everything was working grand earlier today , i tried to upgrade my windows from 7 to the new 10 ; and rebooted the computer before it was finished doing whatever , then it wouldnt show me a windows 7 option on boot , so i removed my old install of ubuntu ; formatted and reinstalled ubuntu , thinking that it would install a boot loader pointing to my windows 7 partition , but now it just left me with the black screen , no bios ms
[20:59] <jozhua> g's , no boot options.. and ubuntu
[21:00] <EriC^^> i bet if you press the down arrow during those 10seconds it'll boot windows if you hit it
[21:00] <jozhua> ok ,
[21:00] <jozhua> im gonna swith the monitor around , and reboot
[21:00] <jozhua> ill be back one way or the other Lord willing..
[21:01] <wileee> did not know the lord was a coder
[21:03] <Nokaji> the lord spoke in riddles
[21:03] <EriC^^> sudo create universe
[21:03] <wileee> heh, mmmm intelligent design
[21:04] <nicomachus> lol
[21:04] <reisio> ...
[21:04] <reisio> monitor has nothing to do with Windows booting or not
[21:04] <reisio> I mean, nothing at all
[21:04] <reisio> zero
[21:04]  * reisio shakes head
[21:06] <rem_> ya du monde ici ?
[21:06] <EriC^^> !fr | rem_
[21:06] <rem_> ok sorry eng only
[21:09] <Aleksandar86> how can i get access from all inside 2.5  sudo chown username /vir/lib/Firebird/2.5
[21:09] <Aleksandar86> ???
[21:09] <jozhua>   tj ; it was totally the monitor
[21:09] <TJ-> reisio: did you miss the part where Joshua said there's *no* monitor signal from power-on, which means BIOS POST isn't being displayed... which suggests the primary output has been changed according to the BIOS
[21:09] <TJ-> jozhua: Thought it would be, it had to be, due to the no-signal during POST
[21:10] <jozhua> ive spent hours tinkering with this thing , and all i had to do was unplug the monitor and plug it back in
[21:10] <jozhua> sheesh
[21:10] <TJ-> jozhua: now you can get into the BIOS Setup, reboot, and look in the BIOS setup for an option that controls selection of the Primary video output
[21:11] <jozhua> thanks a ton , well out of all this - atleest i upgraded my version of ubuntu , heh
[21:11] <TJ-> jozhua: hang on, you just unplugged/replugged the HDMI? That's the same monitor you powered off at the wall ? In which case you had an intermittent connection on the HDMI cable itself, or to be exact the connectors at either end
[21:12] <jozhua> tj ; yah i just unplugged it from my computer then plugged it back in
[21:13] <jozhua> and thats the same monitor
[21:13] <TJ-> jozhua: Always check the cables first... second.... and thrid :)
[21:13] <TJ-> jozhua: OK, so not even a changed-primary-output issue :)
[21:14] <jozhua> so my hdmi cable may be bad?
[21:15] <Aleksandar86> how can i find firebird.conf, any idea to search all folders in ubuntu
[21:15] <Aleksandar86> ?
[21:15] <k1l_> Aleksandar86: how did you install firebird?
[21:15] <EriC^^> sudo updatedb && locate firebird.conf
[21:16] <TJ-> jozhua: I'd bet you had pulled a connector almost completely out so 1 data line was intermittent. unplug/replug and it goes back in firmly
[21:16] <reisio> TJ-: no I just ignored it, he said Ubuntu worked fine and Windows doesn't
[21:16] <reisio> ergo monitor irrelevant
[21:17] <reisio> jozhua: does Ubuntu work or not?
[21:17] <Aleksandar86> i found from gui search in /etc/firebird
[21:17] <TJ-> mode selection, especially data rates, can exhibit this kind of symptom. I've seen it with DVI-D as well with wobbly connectors
[21:17] <arooni-mobile> id like to edit a python pomodoro app to have slightly differnt behavior.  where are the the binary looks like its in /usr/bin/tomate ;;; but where are the other files installed to typically?
[21:17] <Aleksandar86> this is file where i need add IP for outside access
[21:19] <jozhua> reisio: yah
[21:19] <jozhua> everything is fine again
[21:20] <broman> hi! can anyone help me?? just installed fresh smarty application (on apache) on ubuntu but it doesn't seem to work after first page!
[21:21] <daftykins> broman: details?
[21:23] <broman> daftykins, i have apache installed and configured running ok... i installed a smarty app (php with smarty framework)...
[21:23] <daftykins> broman: right but the "doesn't work after first page"
[21:23] <broman> daftykins, i can access the first page (index.php).. but after that, everything returns me 404
[21:23] <broman> all the links
[21:23] <broman> 404
[21:23] <daftykins> sounds like a lack of common apache modules such as rewrite being enabled
[21:23] <daftykins> read your logs to discover
[21:24] <broman> daftykins, i read error.log and nothing shows up there
[21:24] <broman> daftykins, what other log files should i read?
[21:24] <daftykins> all the apache ones
[21:24] <daftykins> perhaps there's even a channel for this framework you speak of?
[21:25] <broman> daftykins, yes.. there is.. I am already on it and it has 20 users
[21:25] <daftykins> ok, well no harm in checking
[21:25] <skinny> nadie habla espanol?
[21:25] <k1l_> !es  | skinny
[21:30] <LewsTherin> Anyone have recommended specs for a mailserver with dovecot, postfix, squirrelmail and a user management UI? Ubuntu 14.04.
[21:30] <LewsTherin> THis machine will be running in a VM, as well.
[21:36] <wad> Looking at ubuntu.com. Is there going to be a version 15 LTS at some point? Thinking about upgrading my 12.04 LTS.
[21:37] <tgm4883> wad: no
[21:37] <tgm4883> wad: LTS releases are in april of even numbered years
[21:37] <wad> Ah, okay.
[21:37] <tgm4883> wad: so 12.04, 14.04, 16.04
[21:37] <daftykins> wad: 16.04 next
[21:37] <wad> got it, thanks.
[21:37] <Bashing-om> wad: The next LTS will be 16.04 .
[21:37] <k1l_> wad: you can upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 on the LTS path
[21:38] <wad> So I should bump it up to 14.04 then.
[21:38] <daftykins> LewsTherin: start with two core and 2GB RAM at least i'd say, maybe try #ubuntu-server for those that use such things more often
[21:38] <LewsTherin> Will do (ツ)
[21:38] <tonyyarusso> wad: To expand on k1l_'s answer, what that means is that you can go *directly* from 12.04 to 14.04 - you don't have to go through 12.10, 13.04, and 13.10 along the way.
[21:38] <wad> So this box hosts websites, runs postfix, runs minecraft servers, stuff like that. How scared should I be of doing a dist-upgrade?
[21:39] <wad> tonyyarusso, perfect, thanks!
[21:40] <tonyyarusso> wad: The one BIG thing I know of is that there were changes to the syntax for allow/deny in Apache 2.4, so you will need to be prepared for some downtime during the upgrade and then to edit all of your vhosts with the new syntax.  Postfix I think upgrades fine.
[21:40] <tonyyarusso> (Assuming your web sites are Apache)
[21:40] <wad> Ah, good to know!
[21:40] <wad> Yes, they are.
[21:40]  * wad takes notes
[21:40] <k1l_> make backups before murphys law strikes back :)
[21:40] <tonyyarusso> It's a very easy change to make, but you'll want to Google it beforehand rather than spending hours wondering why the heck your sites all say access denied :)
[21:40] <wad> Of course!
[21:41] <wad> yep
[21:41] <wad> I have a handful of virtual hosts on it.
[21:41] <wad> Probably pre-make all the config changes and have them handy.
[21:43] <wad> Hmm... other stuff I have on it: mysql, php, and mediawiki, gallery2...
[21:43] <tonyyarusso> All out of the repos or installed by hand?
[21:43] <wad> repos
[21:44] <tonyyarusso> There might be a change in PHP stuff too, but I'm not sure it's really noticable.
[21:44]  * wad nods
[21:45] <usuario> ola
[21:46] <usuario> ola  ROO
[21:46] <k1l_> hi
[21:46] <usuario> chat
[21:48] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[21:49] <HikaruBG> I need to run a nodejs server on a remote ubuntu server. I am able to start that from an ssh console, but in the moment I disconnect the server is down.
[21:50] <HikaruBG> How to do that?
[21:50] <k1l_> use screen?
[21:50] <k1l_> or start it as a server daemon?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust>   I was thinking the same
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> screen, that is
[21:51] <HikaruBG> how to do that? :) sorry for the dumb question
[21:51] <HikaruBG> :)
[21:51] <k1l_> !screen | HikaruBG
[21:52] <k1l_> HikaruBG: but programs that are meant to run as servers should have a daemon mode, imho
[21:52] <Jamie_1> hey my ubuntu is have a problem displaying the tops of windows and the terminal. When the windows is not full screen the top bar of the window is just black, also the terminal is black and i cannot do anything with it. At the same time when i got to use something that has a hover over feature for more info the little window from the hover over is black along with when i get a notification.
[21:53] <HikaruBG> k1l_, how to create a deamon then?
[21:53] <HikaruBG> daemon*
[21:53] <k1l_> HikaruBG: dont know nodejs, sorry.
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> HikaruBG  ssh to the remote server and run screen, then execute any command ... disconnect ssh and reconnect using ssh user@ip -t screen -dr
[21:54] <HikaruBG> k1l_, how to run a process or a command as a daemon. Node JS server starts simple. $node server.js    and it is on
[21:55] <HikaruBG> MonkeyDust, thanks. Can you also guide me in making a server daemon?
[21:55] <Jamie_1> Any ideas on how to solve that?
[21:55] <k1l_> HikaruBG: as i said: i am not familiar with nodejs. but other server programs like apache etc have daemon modes that run in the background automatically.
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> HikaruBG  no, better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[21:56] <HikaruBG> OK Thanks! :) I am off to #ubuntu-server
[21:57] <K4k> I just tried to swap my lightdm greeter from unity-greeter to lightdm-webkit-greeter and it didn't work so I switched back but now lightdm comes up to a blank screen with a blinking cursor. Can someone help me figure out what's going on. There is an error on the screen at boot that flashes up but it doesn't stay up long enough for me to read it.
[21:58] <K4k> hmmm, actually, the error seems to have gone away but it now goes to a screen saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode"
[22:01] <Jamie_1> K4k: can you get into the tty?
[22:01] <wileee> Jamie_1, Can you check the guest account or make another to confirm this is your work?
[22:01] <K4k> Jamie_1: yes, that's where I've been poking around trying to see what's up
[22:01] <Jamie_1> wileee: already have
[22:01] <Jamie_1> k4
[22:01] <K4k> I already restored my lightdm.conf file
[22:01] <wileee> Jamie_1, And?
[22:01] <Jamie_1> K4k: go into the tty and revert to config old
[22:02] <Jamie_1> wileee: no repo
[22:02] <Jamie_1> *repro
[22:02] <wileee> Jamie_1, no repo?
[22:02] <Jamie_1> wileee: sorry said that wrong.... no i could repro
[22:02] <K4k> Jamie_1: unfortunately I've already done that. Also run dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and removed lightdm-gtk-greeter and lightdm-webkit-greeter with apt-get purge
[22:03] <wileee> Jamie_1, You must not really need help. ;)
[22:03] <Jamie_1> K4k: have you tried cd ~ mv .config .configold
[22:03] <K4k> no
[22:03] <K4k> let me try that
[22:03] <K4k> (though I'm logged in as root, if that makes any difference)
[22:03] <Jamie_1> well if you are not root you have to run it as sudo
[22:03] <EriC^^> it does
[22:03] <Jamie_1> K4k: just do
[22:03] <Jamie_1> cd ~
[22:04] <EriC^^> cd ~ might take you to /root if you used sudo -i
[22:04] <K4k> No, I actually have a root user on this system
[22:04] <Jamie_1> EriC^^: that is what you want to rest the config files
[22:04] <K4k> But that's besides the point
[22:05] <EriC^^> isn't he trying to rename the config files in his home dir?
[22:05] <Jamie_1> well K4k just do root or su and run
[22:05] <K4k> Jamie_1: I moved ~/.config to ~/.config.bak, no dice
[22:05] <Jamie_1> K4k: what did it say?
[22:05] <K4k> what did what say?
[22:05] <Jamie_1> wileee: any ideas?
[22:05] <Jamie_1> K4k: did it return anything or did it just allow the command to pass
[22:05] <szronik> I have apport taking up 10-15% of CPU cycles and can't kill it. I've found that it's used to intercept crashes, and if it is, I can't figure out what's crashing. Can anyone help?
[22:06] <K4k> Jamie_1: the mv command?
[22:06] <Jamie_1> and K4k no... mv .config .configold
[22:06] <K4k> that worked fine
[22:06] <Jamie_1> that is what you want not bak
[22:07] <szronik> Okay, seems to be systemd-logind
[22:07] <Jamie_1> wileee: i mean any ideas on how to fix what is going on with the system?? do you think a change of dm might do it?
[22:07] <EriC^^> K4k: after you login you get a blank screen?
[22:07] <K4k> EriC^^: No, I think there's been a misunderstanding in my original issue. Lightdm literally won't even start
[22:07] <EriC^^> ok, seems like a graphics driver issue
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> szronik  sudo -e /etc/default/apport ... set enabled to 0
[22:07] <Jamie_1> K4k: i had the problem about 6 months ago twice and that solved the problem
[22:08] <EriC^^> did you install anything?
[22:08] <szronik> MonkeyDust: systemd-logind keeps respawning, so says syslog
[22:08] <K4k> EriC^^: I installed lightdm-webkit-greeter, swapped the greeter session in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and ran `service lightdm restart`
[22:08] <szronik> MonkeyDust: I did a apt-get upgrade earlier today
[22:08] <K4k> it restarted lightdm but to a black screen
[22:09] <K4k> I swapped it back
[22:09] <K4k> and no change
[22:09] <EriC^^> K4k: are you sure about lightdm.conf? can you pastebin /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
[22:09] <K4k> Sure
[22:09] <K4k> sec
[22:09] <K4k> EriC^^: what's the preferred pastebin here?
[22:09] <EriC^^> paste.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <szronik> I think I'll reboot
[22:09] <Jamie_1> oh... did anyone see the question i asked above?
[22:10] <K4k> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11962558/
[22:11] <Jamie_1> screw it im just gonna change dm and hope it might fix the problem
[22:11] <EriC^^> K4k: ok, try ls /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/
[22:11] <K4k> EriC^^: there are 5 files
[22:12] <K4k> I don't recall modifying these
[22:12] <EriC^^> any greeter files?
[22:13] <EriC^^> K4k: try sudo mv /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf{,.old}
[22:13] <K4k> EriC^^: no better
[22:14] <EriC^^> K4k: can you pastebin ls /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d ?
[22:14] <K4k> EriC^^: Oh, another thing. I did change one boolean in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.unity-greeter.gschema.xml and run glib-compile-schema /usr/share/glib-2.0/schema/
[22:14]  * K4k smiles sheepishly
[22:15] <K4k> Perhaps purging the unity-greeter and re-installing it would fix something if that was a bad idea?
[22:15] <EriC^^> don't purge it, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm unity-greeter
[22:16] <wish^^> Is there a remote desktop application for ubuntu that lets me access my work desktop from home and from my laptop?
[22:16] <EriC^^> also pastebin ls /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d
[22:16] <rafaelxiques> me acabo de conectar. Alguna novedad?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> !br
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> wish^^  is it windows or linux at work?
[22:17] <wish^^> Im on ubuntu at work and on my laptop and im on windows at home
[22:18] <K4k> EriC^^: reinstalling unity-greeter fixed it...
[22:18] <K4k> I guess I broke something with glib-compile-schemas
[22:18] <JustSighDudes> Hi guys, my install is suddenly really slw Any ideas what's going on? I've formatted it 2 days ago
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> K4k  so you need a windows program?
[22:18] <EriC^^> K4k: ok
[22:19] <JustSighDudes> Running 15.04, plenty of free ram
[22:19] <wileee> JustSighDudes, Install htop and look at what is running and eating the speed.
[22:19] <wish^^> MonkeyDust: no
[22:20] <JustSighDudes> Nothing. Highest CPU use is compiz at 0.4%
[22:20] <JustSighDudes> wileee, ^
[22:20] <wileee> JustSighDudes, using what measurement?
[22:21] <wileee> what app is this from
[22:21] <JustSighDudes> wileee, htop this is CPU
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> wish^^  you say you have windows at home and that you want to connect to your work
[22:21] <wileee> JustSighDudes, You have scrolled all the way to the bottom?
[22:22] <JustSighDudes> wileee, i's sorted by CPU
[22:23] <wish^^> MonkeyDust, i need to set up a VNC i guess
[22:23] <Jamie_1> ugh... is there any way to force update to 14.10 even know its not supported anymore?
[22:23] <wileee> JustSighDudes, I would not sort it read it all, honestly you have no info to work with, we don't do miracles. ;)
[22:24] <JustSighDudes> wileee, I did scroll all the way to the bottom just to make sure. Nothing is higher than 0.5% percent
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> !vnc | wish^^ ok, start here
[22:24] <JustSighDudes> wileee,  And the bars at the top showing the cores are all at 0.5% and lower
[22:24] <wish^^> ty MonkeyDust
[22:24] <wish^^> it is 100mbit at work and 50 at home
[22:24] <tonyyarusso> Jamie_1: Step 1) Why do you want to?
[22:24] <Jamie_1> tonyyarusso: hoping it will solve the problems i have been having
[22:25] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: Have you monitored the kernel log for signs of I/O errors?
[22:25] <JustSighDudes> wileee, I feel like it's a rendering issue not a processing issue, but don't know how to debug that
[22:25] <Jamie_1> 5:52:27 PM - Jamie_1: hey my ubuntu is have a problem displaying the tops of windows and the terminal. When the windows is not full screen the top bar of the window is just black, also the terminal is black and i cannot do anything with it. At the same time when i got to use something that has a hover over feature for more info the little window from the hover over is black along with when i get a notification.
[22:25] <JustSighDudes> TJ- where would I find that log? is that syslog? Cuz there's nothing in there or dmesg
[22:25] <wileee> JustSighDudes, I can't help with this. ;)
[22:25] <tonyyarusso> Jamie_1: ah.  I have no idea how do-release-upgrade handles them, if at all, but the repositories at least used to be kept around on old-releases.ubuntu.com, so you might be able to pull it off with that.
[22:25] <Bashing-om> wileee: You have done so much, for so long, with so little; You are now qualified to do anything with nothing !
[22:25] <JustSighDudes> wileee, No worries. Thanks for trying.
[22:26] <wileee> lol Bashing-om
[22:26] <Jamie_1> tonyyarusso: i had to use a net install to get this on here....
[22:26] <szronik> I have Ubuntu Server running on a PowerPC machine. If the machine dies on me, I'd like to be able to move all of the settings to a x86/x86-64 machine. What's the best way for me to do that?
[22:26] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: "/var/log/kern.log" ius the ongoing kernel log. dmesg is mainly boot-time only
[22:27] <wileee> JustSighDudes, No problem, don't want to drag around what other helpers can cover.
[22:27] <Jamie_1> tonyyarusso: the only reason i want to is it seems no one knows how to solve this stupid problem...
[22:27] <Jamie_1> not saying its easy... its just a pain in my f*** A**
[22:28] <Jamie_1> and i dont feel like going through installing all over again and putting everything back on
[22:28] <JustSighDudes> wileee, appreciated, way better than suddenly not replying.
[22:28] <JustSighDudes> TJ- nothing there.
[22:28] <wileee> ;)
[22:28] <Jamie_1> so it seems i am just gonna run on a f****D up version of Ubuntu gnome
[22:30] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: can you describe how it feels 'slow' - what actions do you perform and what are your expectations vs what happens... how slow is slow (e.g. 5 seconds instead of 1 second expectation)
[22:30] <JustSighDudes> TJ-, I should mention ALT-Tab is lightening fast. But when I'm typing the letters take a while to show up
[22:31] <JustSighDudes> TJ-, and terminal output takes a bit to refresh
[22:31] <JustSighDudes> TJ-, even opening a new tab in chrome is fast. But typing the URL is slow. And videos play choppy
[22:31] <t0ntin> Hi, all. I had XP and ubuntu on my laptop. I installed Win 7, and now it does not give me the option to boot into ubuntu at start-up. Anyone know how I can fix that?
[22:32] <teward> t0ntin: boot to a livecd and run boot-repair
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> t0ntin  the windows installation ruined grub
[22:32] <teward> t0ntin: the problem is Windows torched grub
[22:32] <teward> that's not hard to fix
[22:32] <JustSighDudes> t0ntin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[22:33] <t0ntin> teward, I will try that. Thanks.
[22:35] <wileee> t0ntin, If you use the bootrepiar app save the bootinfo summary url.
[22:35] <t0ntin> ok
[22:44] <wad> Wish me luck. Upgrading my VPS from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS.
[22:44] <wileee> JustSighDudes, Only thing that has come to mind is that the latest kernel updates has caused some issues, you might try a previous on in grub.
[22:44] <SuperFAM> hello
[22:44] <reisio> 'lo
[22:44] <wileee> JustSighDudes, I saw the no errors you posted.
[22:46] <JustSighDudes> wileee, will try now
[22:46] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: OK, I know where to look now. You've got an input device problem. I've seen that with PS/2 style i8042 keyboard inputs
[22:47] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[22:47] <wileee> JustSighDudes, However TJ- is excellent help, folow their lead.
[22:49] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: I'm suspecting you'll need something like "i8042.nomux" on the kernel command line, but lets wait and see what devices the PC has first
[22:50] <wileee> good find TJ- ; )
[22:50] <SuperFAM> hey, quick question. does anybody know how to clear the scrollback history on the gnome terminal in ubuntu?
[22:50] <daftykins> SuperFAM: of commands? the bash history file
[22:50] <bekks> SuperFAM: Why would you want to do that?
[22:51] <TJ-> wileee: I've seen it several times before. there are several i8042 workarounds depending on the exact nature of the issue
[22:51] <SuperFAM> no i mean like, the stuff you would see displayed
[22:51] <SuperFAM> so if i used clear
[22:51] <SuperFAM> like that, but i can't scroll back anymore
[22:51] <daftykins> close and re-open
[22:51] <SuperFAM> that's the only way? :|
[22:52] <daftykins> only one i know, maybe don't do things you want to hide :)
[22:52] <Nytram> LOL
[22:52] <SuperFAM> no reason to hide anything, haha. i just like a clean window
[22:52] <bekks> Things seen cannot be unseen.
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> SuperFAM  rm ~/.bash_history
[22:52] <TJ-> SuperFAM: "tput reset"
[22:53] <wileee> TJ-, Heh, I learn here everyday.
[22:53] <Nytram> I still haven't learned WHY one would want to do that. But HEY. we can do it anyway. 8)
[22:54] <reisio> SuperFAM: also, 'help history'
[22:55] <SuperFAM> TJ: thanks!
[22:55] <reisio> oh that
[22:56] <reisio> CTRL+l :)
[22:56] <bekks> reisio++ :)
[22:56] <reisio> bekks++
[22:56] <reisio> AHAHAHAHAH infinite karma
[22:57] <bekks> reisio++ ;)
[22:57] <wileee> ohm mana padmee ohm (phonetically)
[22:57] <reisio> while(true): do bekks++; done
[22:57] <Nytram> Erk! Love orgy ensues... time to go.
[22:59] <bekks> reisio: for(;;); do reisio++; done
[23:00] <TJ-> syntax error near unexpected token `('
[23:00] <bekks> reisio: for((;;)); do reisio++; done
[23:01] <reisio> yes bekks++
[23:01] <wileee> This reminds of the Large Hadron physicists do a rap at a local bar with unix commands
[23:02] <wileee> doing*
[23:02] <TJ-> reisio++: command not found  :P
[23:02] <reisio> not my fault there's no karma bot
[23:02] <reisio> we'll just have to keep track in our heads
[23:02] <reisio> :p
[23:02] <TJ-> reisio: Your karma is the number to the left of your nickname :)
[23:03] <bekks> 730010350 for me, currently. :)
[23:03] <bekks> Noooooooo!
[23:04] <bekks> Off by one fail :(
[23:05] <reisio> my karma is 16:05:38
[23:05] <reisio> whoops 16:06:06
[23:05] <reisio> whoops
[23:06] <reisio> snap, joke already done
[23:06] <TJ-> Mine just went from 2359 to 0 :(
[23:06] <Oblivion> ^ what you guys chatting about?
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Oblivion  this is the ubuntu support channel
[23:08] <Oblivion> MonkeyDust really?
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> Oblivion  type   /topic
[23:09] <Oblivion> MonkeyDust sorry thought Id joined @nontm0s
[23:09] <Oblivion> *@nonym0s
[23:11] <frew> anyone know why dbus would not be running on 12.04?
[23:11] <frew> w/o dbus I can't start upstart services :/
[23:11] <Oblivion> !how much of ubuntu is still based on debian
[23:12] <Oblivion> !how long have I not used IRC lol
[23:12] <marcin___> z
[23:12] <Oblivion> frew dbus should be running
[23:13] <Oblivion> 12.04 uses upsatrt ?
[23:13] <frew> Oblivion: ... yes that's why I'm asking why it woudln't be
[23:13] <frew> start: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[23:13] <Oblivion> frew it should be running defo
[23:14] <Oblivion> frew is that starting dbus daemon?
[23:14] <bojano> z
[23:14] <frew> that's me trying to start some other service
[23:14] <Oblivion> frew start dbus
[23:14] <frew> well that won't work: start: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[23:14] <frew> :)
[23:15] <shine_> Man, I have this situation ... I have something I *just need to get done* -- unfortunately, this topic is extreeemely complicated for me. So, I've tried to boil down what is already pretty simple information on the topic, into even simpler information on the topic.  The Source info is : http://askubuntu.com/questions/461135/copy-mp4-files-to-dvd     And my, simpler, version is : http://pastebin.com/ZuHFZMNq     Could anyone check it out
[23:15] <shine_> see if what I wrote makes sense? Based on my paste, am I understanding this process correctly?  Please don't confuse me by making it more complicated though.
[23:15] <Oblivion> frew whats in  /var/run/dbus/
[23:15] <bojano> z
[23:15] <frew> Oblivion: there's no dbus directory in /var/run
[23:15] <Oblivion> frew what about ps aux | grep dbus
[23:16] <frew> nada
[23:16] <frew> (except for grep itself)
[23:16] <Oblivion> frew and dpkg --list | grep dbus
[23:16] <frew> I have dbus, dbus-x11, and a few libs installed
[23:16] <frew> I wonder if I am somehow in a lower runlevel?
[23:16] <frew> this is a vm
[23:17] <Oblivion> frew anything in /var/sys/sublock for dbus?
[23:17] <frew> I don't have a /var/sys?
[23:17] <Oblivion> frew yeah what RL you in 3 or 5?
[23:17] <frew> RL?
[23:18] <Oblivion> frew run level
[23:18] <frew> I'm not sure
[23:18] <frew> how can I check?
[23:18] <frew> I wish init (upstart) put the runlevel in it's args or something
[23:18] <Oblivion> frew type runlevel
[23:18] <frew> lol
[23:18] <frew> unknown
[23:19]  * frew straces runlevel
[23:19] <shine_> How bout I just pay someone to do the job for me? What would that be worth to someone?
[23:19] <Oblivion> frew might be worth rebooting , I dont like windows fixes but something looks screwed
[23:20] <daftykins> shine_: inappropriate here.
[23:20] <Oblivion> frew or restarting , is it lightdm on Ubuntu (with unity)?
[23:20] <frew> it's headless
[23:20] <Oblivion> * restarting lightdm
[23:20] <frew> server
[23:21] <Oblivion> frew headless shouldnt need dbus what you trying to run?
[23:21] <frew> if you run an upstart service it needs dbus
[23:21] <frew> and I'm trying to run an upstart service (one of our services)
[23:21] <daftykins> shine_: the word you're looking for, for step #1 is 'transcode' depending on codecs in use
[23:22] <Oblivion> frew iirc dbus is only needed for X apps
[23:22] <frew> I wish you were right
[23:22] <frew> but start actually uses dbus to tell upstart to start the service
[23:22] <frew> watch:
[23:23] <Oblivion> frew yeah upstart, sytemd causinf me new problems, why we couldnt stay with system V init
[23:23] <frew> heh
[23:23] <frew> well
[23:24] <frew> I'm fine with new stuff
[23:24] <frew> it' sjust a bummer to be in the middle
[23:24] <frew> I feel like learning about this upstart stuff is a waste of time now that it's abandoned more or less
[23:24] <shine_> I feel like I need a stinkin' 4 yr degree to pull something like this off - and, well, it's not that it isn't worth it to me - it's infinately worth it - just maybe not worth my time doing it (by the time I figure it out It'll be 10 years from now and cases of wasted dvds later).
[23:24] <Oblivion> frew yeah is it 15.04 >+ that ship with systemd?
[23:24] <shine_> daftykins: thx
[23:24] <frew> yes
[23:24] <frew> so my laptop actually is running systemd
[23:24] <frew> and I haven't had any issues, fwiw
[23:25] <Oblivion> frew luckily I mostly work with CentOS servers
[23:25] <frew> but 14.04 will be around for a long time
[23:25] <frew> so I guess I'm stuck with upstart for quite a while
[23:25] <frew> CentOS uses sysv I guess?
[23:26] <microhaxo> guys, i just installed ubuntu and for some reason on the desktop i have a huge cursor?
[23:26] <frew> Oblivion: it looks like 2 is my default runlevel?
[23:26] <reisio> Fedora is using systemd, so CentOS will be using it eventually if not already
[23:26] <Oblivion> CentOs from 7 uses systemd ^ <= use sys v init still
[23:28] <Oblivion> frew Yeah Im running xubuntu here mines the same, this is where I get angry lol why Debian/Ubuntu do everything different, run level 2 is reserved in RHL
[23:28] <Oblivion> frew im in X though
[23:29] <frew> on my host I'm in ubuntu and my RL is 5
[23:29] <shine_> daftykins: do you know, does the starting file (mp4 in my case) have to be a single file or can it be multiple files to one dvd?
[23:29] <Oblivion> frew so that sounds like the propblem the run levels are misconfigured possibly
[23:29] <frew> I think so too
[23:29] <frew> I'm gonna try to force it to a given runlevel now
[23:29] <frew> and reboot it
[23:29] <Oblivion> frew so this is a vm ?
[23:29] <frew> ...sorta
[23:30] <frew> it's a docker container running init to act like a vm
[23:30] <frew> aside from this issue I've not had any problems
[23:30] <frew> been using it for a few weeks instead of vagrant
[23:31] <Oblivion> frew yeah thats the prob, in a docker it uses the host kernel
[23:31] <frew> ok?
[23:31] <frew> I don't understand how that's related
[23:31]  * frew doesn't know much about init yet
[23:32] <frew> does the kernel like, globally set the init level/
[23:32] <Oblivion> frew I suspect it is using the host dbus
[23:32] <frew> I could make it use the host dbus but I'd need to configure that
[23:32] <Oblivion> frew Is dbus running on the host?
[23:32] <fluxxer> does anyone else have a problem with their desktop getting blown away again and again with every other update?
[23:32] <frew> it almost certainly is, but I didn't give it (the container) a socket or volume to konw how to reach it
[23:32] <fluxxer> with MATE, that is
[23:33] <Oblivion> frew I have not much experience with dockers , so not sure but It looks like a docker issue to me
[23:34] <frew> well
[23:34] <frew> manually specifying runlevel 2 still doesn't start dbus, for whatever reason
[23:34] <fluxxer> i have Mint 17 on my desktop and Ubuntu MATE on my laptop, and it's always a gamble whether i should update or not because this might happen.. i login, and the MATE panels don't load, and the CPU load goes way up trying to load things. if i login as guest, this doesn't happen
[23:34] <frew> I'll try 5
[23:35] <Oblivion> frew If you havent found a soloution a good person to ask is Allan Jude Tech Snap jupiter broadcasting
[23:35] <frew> is that a contractor or something?
[23:35] <TJ-> frew: have you looked at the upstart logs
[23:36] <frew> not yet, didn't even think to look there
[23:36] <frew> /var/upstart?
[23:36] <Oblivion> frew no its a security/technical podcast
[23:36] <frew> ok
[23:36] <frew> will check out
[23:36] <frew> thanks
[23:37] <Oblivion> does upstart keep logs?
[23:37] <TJ-> frew: /var/log/upstart/
[23:37] <frew> cool
[23:37] <frew> I'll look there
[23:37] <Oblivion> iirc it logs to syslog
[23:37] <TJ-> Upstart logs each service separately
[23:38] <fluxxer> beep beep, hello
[23:39] <Oblivion> fluxxer your asking Mint support in Ubuntu , wrong channel, use Mint support
[23:39] <fluxxer> Mint is based on Ubuntu. Ubuntu MATE is based on Ubuntu.
[23:39] <Oblivion> TJ where to?
[23:39] <shadeemotive> whats up?
[23:39] <TJ-> I already said
[23:40] <fluxxer> i guess i should find the MATE channel, but i don't know where that is
[23:40] <shadeemotive> lol
[23:40] <Oblivion> fluxxer yes but as they ship with different packages and desktops , it dont work the way you think
[23:40] <BlueProtoman> Can anybody recommend a good PPA for Qt 5.5 on Ubuntu 15.04?
[23:40] <shadeemotive> who here play sonic robo blast 2?
[23:41] <shadeemotive> i got no good ppas
[23:41] <Kamuela> wow my years-old issue with ubuntu suddenly just doens't happen anymore
[23:41] <fluxxer> Kamuela: amazin, isn't it
[23:41] <Oblivion> blueProtoman Gentoo only distro I use for dev
[23:41] <fluxxer> how probems mysteriously come and go
[23:41] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: That's nice, but I didn't come here about Gentoo
[23:41] <shadeemotive> i got srb2 who want to join :P
[23:41] <Kamuela> you know what's more amazing? how little I even want to look into it. i'm fine with it gone, no hard feelings
[23:42] <Oblivion> blueProtoman I advised it because to keep upstream with dev apps you need to use Gentoo, Arch, LFS to keep up
[23:42] <fluxxer> my probem just keeps resurfacing with every other update :P
[23:42] <fluxxer> guess i'll go find the MATE channel then, if there is one
[23:42] <Oblivion> blueProtoman problem is keeping all the shared libs up to date and not breaking stuff
[23:43] <shadeemotive> well i got a question
[23:43] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: I'm not installing a new operating system.
[23:43] <shadeemotive> why isnt there no new change when i go from ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10?
[23:43] <shadeemotive> or why wont 15.04 work???
[23:44] <shadeemotive> ???????////
[23:44] <Oblivion> blueProtoman well if they dont provide .deb learn to compile from source, but look forward to dependcy hell :(
[23:45] <Kamuela> Does anyone know why ctrl+alt+t no longer opens a terminal in 15.04?
[23:45] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: I know how to compile from source, but I'm trying to find a .deb so I don't have to
[23:45] <shadeemotive> ok brb
[23:46] <Oblivion> blueProtoman search google for package name ppa
[23:46] <somsip> !ppa | BlueProtoman
[23:46] <Oblivion> blueProtoman trust at your own risk though
[23:46] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: Already did
[23:46] <Oblivion> blueProtoman nothing?
[23:46] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: Just for Trusty, but I'm not on that
[23:46] <reisio> Kamuela: smack all your ctrl/alt/win/meta/shift keys
[23:47] <Oblivion> blueProtoman what you on ver num please I never remember names
[23:47] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: 15.04
[23:47] <jonne> after upgrading to 15.04 , pulseaudio keeps selecting the wrong audio port. It defaults to line out (unplugged) instead of headphones (unplugged), so i don't get audio until i switch them with pavucontrol
[23:48] <jonne> is there a way to make this pavucontrol setting be remembered on startup?
[23:48] <Kamuela> reisio, is that a real suggestion? lol
[23:48] <Kamuela> reisio, HA, HA, HA... well indeed it was. tada
[23:48] <jonne> or alternatively make it detect that my headphones are actually plugged in
[23:48] <Kamuela> thank you
[23:48] <jonne> it worked fine in 14.04
[23:48] <Oblivion> blueProtoman depending on deps it could be ok to install from the 13.04 is that trusty or was it 12.04, if it pulls in alot of deps though would cancel it
[23:48] <reisio> reisio: 1; stuck keys: 0
[23:49] <Oblivion> blueProtoman but this is why I use Gentoo to keep close to upstream
[23:51] <frew> sorry got into long conversation about crypto
[23:51] <reisio> heh
[23:51] <frew> so looking at /var/log/syslog
[23:52] <frew> I don't see any *obvious* reasons why dbus wouldn't be running
[23:52] <Oblivion> frew try a reboot
[23:52] <frew> Oblivion: I did
[23:52] <frew> and switched from RL 2 to 5
[23:53] <TJ-> frew: did you look at the Upstart logs too?
[23:53] <Oblivion> frew dmesg | grep -i dbus?
[23:53] <frew> TJ-: looking there next
[23:56] <frew> nothing really in there
[23:56] <frew> there are 3 files in there, hostname.log, hwclock.log, and munin-node.log
[23:56]  * rypervenche high fives Oblivion.
[23:57] <frew> Oblivion: nada
[23:57] <frew> hm hm hm
[23:57] <Oblivion> frew give me a sec got to get my head around why Debian/Ubuntu use RL 2 instead of 3/5
[23:58] <Hmmmph> Can someone on here help me with a problem I've been having please?
[23:58] <Hmmmph> It's in regards to my graphics card.
[23:58] <TJ-> frew: which suggests dbus isn't being started. What does the dbus service declare its start-on to be? is that condition being satisfied?
[23:59] <frew> good question
[23:59] <frew> local-filesystems and deconfiguring-networking
[23:59] <frew> that could theoretically not be happning, since this is in a container
[23:59] <frew> I wonder... if I could change it to start on.. .somethign else


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