[02:23] <Nubbie> jordan_U_: he's using breezy.
[02:23] <ramin> nvm, can anyone help me set up a SMTP server
[02:23] <cry0> It has a lot of Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) errors
[02:23] <darksoule> kaffeine says dependency kaffeine-xine... kaffiene-xine says dependency kaffeine... what do I do?
[02:23] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, What are you trying to change in your menu.lst and how?
[02:23] <Agalmatophiliac> Nubbie : the question is how to make it dial once everything is set up. or, by enabling it, does that make it dial ? ( i'm lost)
[02:24] <lonran> i cant see the trash can in the desktop. trash in /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor is set as visible but it doesnt change anything. Any posible reason?
[02:24] <Death_Sargent> using gedit im trying to add the "noacpi" command
[02:24] <ramin> anyone?
[02:24] <Nubbie> agalmatophiliac: it should. are you sure it's working?
[02:24] <cry0> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gzip/gzip_1.3.5-11ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[02:24] <cry0>   Could not connect to localhost:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:24] <Agalmatophiliac> it says it installed
[02:24] <Agalmatophiliac> how would i check ?
[02:24] <Jordan_U_> lonran, I have the trash at the bottom right panel
[02:24] <ramin> christ killers!
[02:24] <Agalmatophiliac> is there like a grep command or something ?
[02:24] <Death_Sargent> and using sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so im trying to use ubuntu no kubuntu splash
[02:25] <ramin> christ killers!
[02:25] <Nubbie> ramin: whatch it..
[02:25] <ramin> lol
[02:25] <lonran> Jordan_U, it can be also set as visible on the desktop with gconf-editor
[02:25] <ramin> what what
[02:25] <ramin> watch what
[02:25] <darksoule> How do I get kaffeine?
[02:25] <ramin> it is a joke
[02:25] <Nubbie> ramin: how you present yourself in here.
[02:25] <piao> are you want remove trash?
[02:25] <Toyd> Hello how do i install an sshd server under ubuntu?
[02:25] <Zorlin> sudo apt-get install kaffeine shuould do it?
[02:25] <Zorlin> Toyd, not sure
[02:25] <Auron0> Shootfast: many MANY thanks
[02:25] <ramin> well you know, nobody seems to be helping and I got bored
[02:26] <Auron0> Shootfast: I am now online
[02:26] <cry0> How can I update breezy without update-manager or a working sources.list?
[02:26] <Shootfast> wireless working?
[02:26] <Patrick_> could anyone tell me why the my laptop hangs when I choose to log out??? annoyingly I have to hold down the power button to turn it off then restart!
[02:26] <Auron0> SHootfast: Yes, i am on ubuntu
[02:26] <Nubbie> ramin: have patience and try not to be rude then.
[02:26] <piao> click with right button,to pop the menu,click the lock,and then click remove
[02:26] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, GRUB reads the menu.lst at boot, so I don't see how it is possible that it doesn't change
[02:26] <tbuss> Toyd: this looks like it might help http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-openssh-server-installation-and-configuration/
[02:26] <ramin> fine
[02:27] <ramin> nvm, can anyone help me set up a SMTP server
[02:27] <Death_Sargent> you and me both
[02:27] <Shootfast> id thank Jordan_U too :P
[02:27] <darksoule> http://pastebin.ca/447394 can't apt-get
[02:27] <Auron0> Yes, jordan_u many thanks
[02:27] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, Can you pastebin your menu.lst?
[02:27] <Auron0> Now to get SLI working, lol
[02:27] <jack_deltrino> Hi, I don't have an extra machine to be working with. How big, would you all say, is the command line install of Ubuntu?
[02:27] <ramin> the SMTP server is for getting confirmation emails
[02:27] <dc> only my wireless card works; my network card is always disconnected.  anyone know what gives?
[02:27] <cry0> So... what do I do if I screw over my sources.list?  Its trying to download from localhost...
[02:27] <Death_Sargent> paste /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[02:27] <Shootfast> Auron0: the only bad part is, now when we run synaptic, we're probably going to be updating the kernel, so you'll have to re-copy the files when thats donw
[02:27] <njee> cry0: here is a site where you can generate a new one http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[02:27] <tommytom> !smtp
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <dc> cry0: just edit it?
[02:28] <Death_Sargent> paste /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[02:28] <Enverex> Does Ubuntu have a "rolling version" release rather than the fixed releases like Edgy and Dapper?
[02:28] <Toyd> thanks
[02:28] <Shootfast> Auron0: So, lets fire up synaptic and give it a whirl
[02:28] <cry0> I redid my sources.list I dont know how many times... it just gets worse every time
[02:28] <Nubbie> enverex: what?
[02:28] <Jordan_U_> jack_deltrino, Depends on how much you want to install, anywhere from ~10 meg to ~700 meg :)
[02:28] <Auron0> Shootfast, that is fine, I am so happy that i can get online now
[02:28] <dc> cry0: what build are you using?
[02:28] <Enverex> Nubbie, What to which part of it?
[02:28] <dc> only my wireless card works; my network card is always disconnected.  anyone know what gives?
[02:28] <Nubbie> enverex: dapper and edgy are ubuntu.
[02:28] <jack_deltrino> Jordan_U_: The command line installation? That's just a command line install... it's one size....
[02:29] <Enverex> Nubbie, ... yes I'm aware of that
[02:29] <dxdemetriou> the upgrade to Feisty must be "update-manager -c -d" ?
[02:29] <Nubbie> enverex: ubuntu uses fixed releases, every 6 months.
[02:29] <ramin> ubotu, that did not help
[02:29] <Jordan_U_> jack_deltrino, Sorry, I thought you meant the command line install CD, not a command line only install.
[02:29] <Nubbie> enverex: just like everything.
[02:29] <darksoule> OK, Since noone can help me install kaffeine, how can I get DVDs to play on Totem?
[02:29] <Death_Sargent> Jordan_U_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16330/
[02:29] <Enverex> Nubbie, I know they do, I was asking if there was a rolling release aswell
[02:29] <dc> ramin: you do realize thats a bot?
[02:29] <Nubbie> !restricted | darksoule
[02:29] <ubotu> darksoule: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <piao> use cmd:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:29] <Enverex> PriceChild, I didn't need that
[02:30] <jack_deltrino> Jordan_U_: Regardless, how big do you think it is?
[02:30] <ramin> dc: I know, I was thinking it would give me some links
[02:30] <Death_Sargent> Jordan_U_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16330/
[02:30] <Death_Sargent> the noacpi is what I added and what never shows up
[02:30] <PriceChild> Enverex, that channel is not for support. would have been fine in here. That ubotu factoid gave you information on ubuntu's release based system.
[02:30] <xorg62> hi everybody!
[02:30] <cry0> dc: I am using Breezy
[02:30] <NanaQ> Hi,stupid question,is there any way to update ubuntu 6.1 to7.0 without reinstall?
[02:30] <dc> my network card cant enable.  the connection is working on other machines, just not this one.
[02:30] <cyris> does anyone know if my isight camera on my macbook will be supported by feisty ?
[02:31] <PriceChild> !upgrade > NanaQ (see pm from ubotu)
[02:31] <sarastro_w_m> hi xorg62
[02:31] <xorg62> =D
[02:31] <dc> cry0: did you look for a sources.list to start fresh from, entirely replacing the old one?
[02:31] <Patrick_> does anyone know how I can fix Log Out, It just hangs on a blank screen until I hold down the power button
[02:31] <sarastro_w_m> quite more active then on our channel
[02:31] <Nubbie> cyris: is it supported in dapper?
[02:31] <Enverex> PriceChild, I'm not asking for support and I asked there as they are more likely to know than the hordes of eegits in here
[02:31] <dc> my network card cant enable.  the connection is working on other machines, just not this one. anyone know how to fix it?
[02:32] <Nubbie> patrick_: ctrl alt F2, log in, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:32] <darksoule> what do I do about dependency loops?
[02:32] <Jordan_U_> jack_deltrino, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD I don't know how much more you need to download during install to get the ubuntu-minimal packages.
[02:32] <PriceChild> Enverex, I don't think you even asked here? And please read the CoC if you're going to call people eegits.
[02:32] <XBehave> i have 2 ubuntu boxes conected by ethernet cables directly to eachother but its the laptop wont connect to me
[02:32] <dxdemetriou> I'm going to start the upgrade. I hope the repos to be up to date for 7.04 :)
[02:32] <cry0> I tried both.  I dont think its my sources.list, its trying to get all the data from the localhost.
[02:32] <Patrick_> Nubbie, nothing responds as in hangs, so ctrl + alt + f whatever doesnt work
[02:32] <Scombr0_> hi all
[02:32] <Enverex> PriceChild, I did ask here and got some silly responses, I'm in a lot of pain and can't keep my eyes open hence why I can trying to get a quick answer
[02:32] <xorg62> hi
[02:33] <dc> cry0: send me your sources.list?
[02:33] <Nubbie> everex: i told you ubuntu releases every 6 months. what else do you want to know? they do release candidates before hand.
[02:33] <dc> my network card cant enable.  the connection is working on other machines, just not this one. anyone know how to fix it?
[02:33] <deserteagle> Amaranth: still there? ^_~
[02:33] <sontek> whats the command for finding what file a package is in?
[02:33] <PriceChild> Enverex, maybe its time to step away from the computer for a short while then and take a break? We don't use rolling releases.
[02:33] <cry0> I feel like a noob, but I dont know how to sent my sources.list...
[02:33] <Scombr0_> guys.. i'm having problems while trying to install nvidia unix drivers on my edgy
[02:33] <ffm> I NEED SOME reasons to convince my IT at my school to switch to ubuntu. Got any ideas?
[02:33] <Amaranth> deserteagle: yep
[02:33] <cry0> send*
[02:33] <Nubbie> cry0: www.pastebin.ca
[02:33] <Scombr0_> i tried all things i thought could fix.. but my options are goe now :S
[02:33] <saosin> Please help. I was wondering if my wireless card work while using the liveCD
[02:33] <Death_Sargent> ffm: yeah for one its free
[02:33] <dc> cry0: do you have gnome or kde?
[02:33] <Death_Sargent> ffm: bring in a computer with beryl and show off
[02:33] <Nubbie> ffm: give him a live cd.
[02:34] <Enverex> PriceChild, Stepping away wouldn't help, it's not screen related. Anyway, thanks for the "no" I only asked because someone told me they did.
[02:34] <dc> cry0: do you know which you have?
[02:34] <piao> is anybody can give a full source.list
[02:34] <piao> ?
[02:34] <cry0> gnome
[02:34] <ffm> Nubbie: The computers in there hang when I try to install.
[02:34] <Amaranth> !sources.list
[02:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:34] <PriceChild> !easysource > piao
[02:34] <deserteagle> Amaranth: why is it that when i try to upgrade the nvidia-glx package it says it has unresolvable dependencies with nvidia-kernel-1.0something
[02:34] <Death_Sargent> Jordan_U_ : any help?
[02:34] <Crazytom> saosin, do lspci -v | grep Wireless
[02:34] <ffm> Nubbie: They just freeze on partitioning.
[02:34] <Nubbie> enverex: insulting people won't help either.
[02:34] <dc> cry0: type this in terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.   copy and paste that into the site nubby sent you
[02:34] <dc> well
[02:34] <Nubbie> ffm: just to demo it for them.
[02:34] <Amaranth> deserteagle: you were using a 3rd party nvidia 9xxx repo and your kernel got upgraded
[02:34] <sarastro_w_m> piao: u can find them in the ubuntu documentation  on the site
[02:34] <dc> no sudo
[02:35] <piao> i update again and again.but no news.i cann't belive  my source.list
[02:35] <Enverex> Nubbie, No but it makes me feel better and I'm pretty sure they didn't notice nor care
[02:35] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, I don't know the syntax of the menu.lst very well but it looks like noacpi should go after "...ro quiet splash"
[02:35] <dc> cry0: dont use sudo unless it doesnt open
[02:35] <Lam_> how do i figure out what /dev a usb device is assigned to?
[02:35] <Nubbie> ffm: to show them that all hardware is supported, that there is full office installed by default, that there is screen viewing, etc.
[02:35] <deserteagle> Amaranth: oh crap :(
[02:35] <cry0> http://www.pastebin.ca/447402
[02:35] <Nubbie> enverex: you have your answer, please leave.
[02:35] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, But that will only work until the next kernel update
[02:35] <Amaranth> deserteagle: downgrade the nvidia-glx package to the edgy version
[02:35] <ffm> Nubbie: Well, I cant seem to get beryl working on a live CD. Also, their wifi isnt supported, and neither is their graphics, iirc.
[02:35] <Enverex> Nubbie, Sir Yes Sir
[02:35] <cry0> It never opens unless I use sudo
[02:35] <saosin> crazytom, i'm using liveCD right now and i want to see if wireless works.  so you're saying wireless works without having to install?
[02:35] <Amaranth> deserteagle: in synaptic select nvidia-glx and press ctrl-e
[02:35] <deserteagle> Amaranth: but the version shows that it's actually prior to the one available
[02:36] <Nubbie> ffm: are you sure about that? and why would a school need beryl installed?
[02:36] <Patrick_> can anyone recommend another Linux distro that works very well
[02:36] <spykid> hi
[02:36] <Scombr0_> guys.. i'm having problems while trying to install nvidia unix drivers on my edgy
[02:36] <Scombr0_> i tried all things i thought could fix.. but my options are goe now :S
[02:36] <Crazytom> saosin, sure it could.  you'd just have to reinstall or fix everything once you install
[02:36] <Death_Sargent> does anyone know how to help me
[02:36] <ffm> Nubbie: Well, I was just trying to show it off to him. And yes, I thinks
[02:36] <ffm>  so
[02:36] <Death_Sargent> any body
[02:36] <Amaranth> deserteagle: Dunno what to tell you, just downgrade it to the 8776 version
[02:36] <Scombr0_> now i can see the screen but is all grey and dark :S
[02:36] <deserteagle> Amaranth: so i should force an upgrade?
[02:36] <Death_Sargent> please
[02:36] <Nubbie> ffm: what kind of wifi/wifi adapters do they use?
[02:36] <Scombr0_> im on the console thru SSH with my laptop
[02:36] <darksoule> Why does Ubuntu rely on the internet for everything.  It's set up for everyone who has internet connection to be able to just put in a simple command but if you don't have internet connection, none of those commands work because there's no alternative. Oh and everyone here doesn't know how to do half the stuff without an internet connection.   Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:37] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: boot in recovery mode and edit xorg.conf to use the vesa driver
[02:37] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, It looks like to make it perminent you need to edit the line #defoptions=quiet splash ( line 83 )
[02:37] <apecat> Patrick_: this is a ubuntu channel, youfh ;)
[02:37] <dc> cry0: no clue man, sorry
[02:37] <Shootfast> Scombr0_:  did you try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:37] <munki> Patrick_ gentoo
[02:37] <Amaranth> deserteagle: no, you want a downgrade
[02:37] <apecat> *though
[02:37] <dc> my network card cant enable.  the connection is working on other machines, just not this one. anyone know how to fix it?
[02:37] <cry0> thanks anyway
[02:37] <Scombr0_> Amaranth i can edit it from here from the console right? im on SSH
[02:37] <ffm> Nubbie: DELL ones that are embedded int he laptops.
[02:37] <dc> cry0: good luck
[02:37] <Crazytom> saosin, that will just tell us what chipset it is
[02:37] <netdiggerxxx> ik zou graag alles met VLC afspelen, hoe doe ik dit t'gemmakelijkst?
[02:37] <Amaranth> deserteagle: select the package in synaptic, press ctrl-e, select the 8776 version
[02:37] <Scombr0_> shoot^ i directly installed it from the nvidia website
[02:37] <Scombr0_> downloaded the .run files
[02:37] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: yeah, that works too
[02:37] <Nubbie> ffm: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[02:37] <Scombr0_> first the common and then the legacy
[02:37] <Patrick_> munki, one that doesnt destroy you trying to get basic things to work
[02:38] <munki> Patrick_ show me where that happened
[02:38] <Scombr0_> with the common didnt work.. then i used the legacy and now it looks all greyed and dark
[02:38] <ffm> Nubbie: Yes, dosnt seem to want to work
[02:38] <munki> it's never done anything even close to what you described to me
[02:38] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: what video card?
[02:38] <Patrick_> munki, where what happened
[02:38] <Crazytom> ffm what chipset do you have?
[02:38] <munki> everything basic works if you rtfm and follow it :)
[02:38] <Death_Sargent> rebooting to test
[02:38] <Scombr0_> nvidia GeForce 6200
[02:38] <munki> where it "destroy you trying to get basic things to work" Patrick_
[02:38] <Scombr0_> now installing the nvidia-glx
[02:38] <Scombr0_> to see if it works
[02:38] <Scombr0_> with apt
[02:39] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: should work great with the nvidia-glx package
[02:39] <Scombr0_> trying it now :)
[02:39] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: unless installing the .run file broke something
[02:39] <Scombr0_> when it finishes ill let you know
[02:39] <patzlaff> Hi ...
[02:39] <munki> Patrick_ i think you're just spreading fud that you heard on the internet :)
[02:39] <Crazytom> saosin, you don't have it running now?
[02:39] <Scombr0_> but after the .run i had a backup of the xorg.conf file so i copied it back and worked
[02:39] <Patrick_> munki, oh the community for one are no help and secondly I couldnt even get it to recognize sound nor net card
[02:39] <ffm> Crazytom: Depends on the laptop. They have about 12 different kinds.
[02:39] <Patrick_> munki, dont be silly
[02:39] <royel> how can I set apache to block a visitor from access to parent directories?
[02:44] <munki> Patrick_ that's not the distro's fault, that's your improper compilation of the kernel :)
[02:44] <munki> and the community sucks
[02:44] <munki> so what
[02:44] <munki> it's not hard just read the docs
[02:44] <piao> when i cat /etc/issue if show no development chars
[02:44] <Crazytom> ffm, are we talking about your laptop or in general?  do you need help?
[02:44] <patzlaff> I've one problem with my NVIDIA card. I've installed the nvidia-glx and when I enable Desktop Effects my screen was blank. Do anyone have one idea?
[02:44] <munki> you'll be a pro in no time if you do ;)
[02:44] <Amaranth> Patrick_: do you use beryl?
[02:44] <Patrick_> munki, well I dont want to compile an entire os just want an alternative to windows
[02:44] <Scombr0_> ok Amaranth just installed the nvidia-glx and didnt work.. looks grey and dark ..
[02:44] <Amaranth> patzlaff: feisty?
[02:44] <piao> if what i now using is the release edition
[02:44] <patzlaff> yes
[02:44] <patzlaff> feisty
[02:44] <Patrick_> Amaranth, no I do not
[02:44] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[02:44] <munki> Patrick_ oh yeah emerge system is such a hard command
[02:44] <ffm> Crazytom: No, just in general. I am trying to pitch it to my school, and they dont like how each type will need to be recompiled. Their ITs are lazy.
[02:44] <munki> it's like
[02:44] <munki> 2 whole words
[02:44] <Amaranth> patzlaff: blank white?
[02:44] <Journeyman> 7.04 releases tomorrow right?
[02:44] <munki> i can see it being difficult for someone like you
[02:44] <patzlaff> yes
[02:44] <patzlaff> blank white
[02:44] <Scombr0_> may I paste the error in here? is just one line
[02:44] <Amaranth> patzlaff: desktop effects doesn't work with nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:44] <Scombr0_> maybe 2
[02:44] <Patrick_> munki, oh yeah as if emerge system is the command to be used ;)
[02:44] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: yeah
[02:44] <Pelo> does anyone know of an app that would display what prog is using the internet in a symilar way to how the system monitor displays  what prog is using memory and cpu ?
[02:44] <ffm> Journeyman: Who knoes.
[02:44] <munki> it is
[02:44] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: as long as it's less than 3
[02:44] <Scombr0_> xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been
[02:44] <Scombr0_>    customized
[02:44] <munki> Patrick_ just download the stage tarball, extract, and run emerge system.
[02:44] <Patrick_> munki, no it aint
[02:44] <Shootfast> Scombr0_:  now run nvifia-xconfig
[02:44] <bruenig> I have a script that runs every minute to check if feisty is out, so I will notify
[02:44] <munki> Patrick_ i've done the gentoo install >15 times i know what the command is.
[02:44] <royel> Pelo: Wireshark ?? maybe
[02:44] <Crazytom> ffm, if it's broadcom try and get a 4306
[02:44] <Shootfast> Scombr0_: *nvidia-xconfig
[02:44] <Patrick_> munki, yeah well must have been the same comp
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> yep no effect
[02:44] <patzlaff> Shootfast do I have run nvidia-xconfig?
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> none what so evre
[02:44] <Scombr0_> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[02:44] <Scombr0_> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[02:44] <Pelo> royel,  thank you I will check it out
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> whop de fuckin doo
[02:44] <ffm> Thanks, Crazytom!
[02:44] <munki> funny Patrick_
[02:44] <munki> but alas, untrue
[02:44] <munki> once again
[02:44] <munki> just fud you hear on the internet
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> spam
[02:44] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: don't use nvidia-xconfig
[02:44] <saosin> Crazytom, if you're still there.. i know what my chipset is.. but what do i do now?
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> spam
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> spoam
[02:44] <Shootfast> Scombr0_:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:44] <Shootfast> patzlaff: Whats your problem?
[02:44] <Crazytom> saosin, what chipset is it?
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> munki: spma
[02:44] <jrib> !offtopic | munki, Patrick_
[02:44] <munki> 'omg u haf to comile it all!!!1 what's a kernel anyways///??'
[02:44] <ubotu> munki, Patrick_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> I hate this so much
[02:44] <Scombr0_> well all ok
[02:44] <royel> Pelo: dont hate me if thats not what you want, I'm guessing at what you need.
[02:44] <Scombr0_> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[02:44] <Scombr0_> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[02:44] <Scombr0_> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:44] <saosin> Crazytom, it's  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[02:44] <patzlaff> I executed nvidia-xconfig
[02:44] <Scombr0_> so now should work?
[02:44] <Patrick_> Amaranth, do you have any idea
[02:44] <patzlaff> I need restart my X.
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> its like there is a boot ubuntu and a OS ubuntu
[02:44] <Crazytom> saosin, are you running ubuntu now?
[02:44] <Amaranth> !stop | Patrick_ munki, Death_Sargent
[02:44] <ubotu> Patrick_ munki, Death_Sargent: NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[02:44] <Shootfast> Scombre: now just ctrl-alt-bckspce
[02:44] <saosin> i'm running it now on a livecd
[02:44] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, It didn't work?
[02:44] <patzlaff> I come back later..Tks..
[02:44] <Pelo> royel,  I just get  bandwith usage that is not consistent with running applications,  I just want to check it out
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> nope
[02:44] <patzlaff> I will restart my X
[02:44] <Shootfast> patzlaff: do you have an nvidia driver
[02:44] <Crazytom> saosin, and it's not working?
[02:44] <patzlaff> yes
[02:44] <Scombr0_> Shootfast im on mIRC now controlling my computer from SSH connection
[02:44] <Shootfast> patzlaff: I didnt seee your problem
[02:44] <Patrick_> Amaranth, discussion has stopped ages ago???
[02:44] <Amaranth> Patrick_: sounds like the crappy fglrx or nvidia driver
[02:44] <moDumass> haha, sorry it seems the little mute circle was over the volume ctrl but the volume was still up, confusing interface for kaffeine though\
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> hey ubuntu we are on topic
[02:44] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, Can you pastebin your current menu.lst ( with the recent changes )?
[02:44] <patzlaff> my problem is that i don't enable Desktop Effects with my NVIDIA
[02:44] <benanzo> If anyone here is running Feisty on a macbook core duo, have you had trouble with the i810 driver and DRI after the latest updates?
[02:45] <Shootfast> Scombr0_: well you wont see the nvidia splash screen that comes up than :P
[02:45] <patzlaff> no
[02:45] <Shootfast> patzlaff: are you trying beryl?
[02:45] <Patrick_> Amaranth, anyway I have used both the open source ati driver and the restricted one so not to sure
[02:45] <saosin> Crazytom, no. it doesnt seem to detect any wireless network.. this problem started in windows a couple weeks ago. and i thought it was a windows thing. that's why i'm tyring ubuntu.. maybe my wireless card is broken?
[02:45] <Jordan_U_> benanzo, #ubuntu+1
[02:45] <patzlaff> no I'm not tried beryl
[02:45] <benanzo> oh ok, thank you
[02:45] <Amaranth> Patrick_: Then I dunno, there is nothing I can think of that would cause a complete lockup
[02:45] <patzlaff> and I don't see splash video of nvidia
[02:45] <Shootfast> patzlaff: what desktop effects are you activating
[02:45] <Amaranth> Patrick_: except a hardware problem
[02:45] <Nubbie> !patzlaff: #ubuntu-effects for support about that.
[02:45] <Shootfast> patzlaff: the default ones for feisty?
[02:45] <patzlaff> yes
[02:45] <patzlaff> de default ones for feisty
[02:45] <Death_Sargent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16334/
[02:46] <Jordan_U_> patzlaff,
[02:46] <Shootfast> patzlaff: ok, first "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[02:46] <Death_Sargent> and still the same freekin boot splash
[02:46] <Jordan_U_> patzlaff, Did you use the restricted driver manager?
[02:46] <Death_Sargent> god forbid that one change
[02:46] <Patrick_> Amaranth, na its split new and win xp and vista recognizes and works perfectly
[02:46] <patzlaff> I already made this command
[02:46] <Death_Sargent> no really I just love the fact what should work does not
[02:46] <Crazytom> saosin, sounds like it or you don't have your wireless router set up right or your wireless switch on your computer is off
[02:46] <Scombr0_> Amaranth after i did that nvidia-xconfig now my console looks with no brightness
[02:46] <patzlaff> no I didn't see restricted driver
[02:46] <Crazytom> saosin, it's an internal card right?
[02:46] <Amaranth> Patrick_: Then I'm stumped, there is nothing in the logout I can think of that would cause that
[02:46] <Shootfast> patzlaff: ok, now type sudo nvida-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[02:46] <Death_Sargent> thank you so much linux for being so very fickle
[02:47] <saosin> crazytom.  it's an internal card. and i
[02:47] <Amaranth> Patrick_: unless you have gdm setup to restart X when you logout
[02:47] <Nubbie> pelo: everybody jumped the gun and is upgrading lol.
[02:47] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, You didn't change what I told you to
[02:47] <kitche> Death_Sargent: if you want to take the splash away then remove splash from menu.lst
[02:47] <Amaranth> Patrick_: ATI hardware/drivers are touchy about X restarts
[02:47] <saosin> crazytom, i'm living at a dorm, so there's also wireless internet here
[02:47] <Pelo> Nubbie,  my thought exactly,  I decided to wait a week before doing it
[02:47] <Death_Sargent> line 83
[02:47] <Journeyman> how do you tell what version of ubuntu you have installed?
[02:47] <Death_Sargent> yes I did
[02:47] <Death_Sargent> I uncomented it
[02:47] <Nubbie> pelo: i was smart and upgraded a month ago :)
[02:47] <jrib> !version > Journeyman    (Journeyman, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:47] <Death_Sargent> and put in the command I wanted to add
[02:48] <Death_Sargent> you said line 83
[02:48] <Death_Sargent> right?
[02:48] <Shootfast> patzlaff: did you type sudo nvida-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[02:48] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, That is to make it work after upgrades, and it should NOT be uncommented, you still need to edit the kernel parameters further down
[02:48] <patzlaff> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[02:48] <patzlaff> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" added to Screen "Default Screen".
[02:48] <Death_Sargent> thanks for telling me that part
[02:48] <patzlaff> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[02:48] <patzlaff> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:48] <Nubbie> !paste | patzlaff
[02:48] <ubotu> patzlaff: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:48] <Death_Sargent> well no use bitchen if im not try'n
[02:48] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, Sorry
[02:49] <T0uCH> hi all.. ive got a little problem with minimized windows.. i cant see them in the panel board... i cant see any programs in the board... someone can help me?
[02:49] <Shootfast> patzlaff: awesome, now just click ctrl-alt-backspace to reset xserver and you should see the nvidia logo, then activate desktop effects
[02:49] <patzlaff> i come back
[02:49] <Nubbie> touch: did you remove the window list from your panel?
[02:49] <XBehave> i have 2 ubuntu boxes conected by ethernet cables directly to eachother but its the laptop wont connect to me? why is this both have static ips, i shouldnt need a dns
[02:49] <Pelo> T0uCH,   you need to re add the windows list,  right click the pannel and add to pannel, select from the list provided
[02:49] <Scombr0_> Amaranth after the nvidia-xconfig what so I have to do?
[02:49] <Nubbie> xbehave: is it a cross over cable?
[02:50] <T0uCH> ok thanks... and about feisty.. are it gonna be in the update manager?
[02:50] <XBehave> no, is there a way around that?
[02:50] <Shootfast> XBehave: you need cat6 cable "crossover" if you dont have a hub
[02:50] <pollyo> Anyone here use clamtk?
[02:50] <Nubbie> touch: depends on what version you're running now.
[02:50] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: I told you _not_ to run nvidia-xconfig
[02:50] <Death_Sargent> wait what the hell
[02:50] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, I would just edit it for you put pastebin thinks I am a spammer for some reason and won't let me
[02:50] <Death_Sargent> all my changes are gone
[02:50] <deserteagle> Amaranth: hey! since we're still on the subject of nvidia drivers :D
[02:50] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[02:50] <Pelo> T0uCH,   distro updates are different then package updates
[02:50] <T0uCH> nubbie im running on 6.10
[02:50] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: that should at least give you a working X
[02:51] <Nubbie> touch: i think you'll be able to upgrade no problem then.
[02:51] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, Did you save the file ?
[02:51] <T0uCH> how could i get distro update?
[02:51] <Nubbie> touch: it should be in update-manager.
[02:51] <Death_Sargent> yeah
[02:51] <ypSami> Ok, something seriously wrong is goin' on with Beagle. It spiked my CPU in an infinite loop, which was why my CPU kept overheating
[02:51] <Death_Sargent> so I don't unn comment or I do
[02:51] <patzlaff> Hi guys... It doesn't work with driver "nvidia". I need put driver "nv" on my X
[02:51] <Nubbie> ypsami: are you running feisty?
[02:51] <saosin> :) Crazytom, thank you for your help. it's probably a hardware issue
[02:51] <blazemonger> 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller..is this supported in ubuntu?
[02:51] <ypSami> Nubbie: Nope, Edgy
[02:51] <deserteagle> Amaranth: i downgraded the nvidia-glx but now it says the x kernel has ver. 1.084something as opposed to the 8774 version
[02:51] <Shootfast> patzlaff: what happened?
[02:52] <T0uCH> am i able to get feisty distro update right now?
[02:52] <blazemonger> Feisty is released?
[02:52] <Scombr0_> Amaranth, it works.. but looks all grey.. with a really really poor definition and very dark
[02:52] <Nubbie> ypsami: sudo killall beagle to stop it.
[02:52] <patzlaff> The X doesn't works...
[02:52] <Scombr0_> i cant read the screen
[02:52] <apecat> ypSami: in my experience beagle is just that bad
[02:52] <kitche> T0uCH: probably but not sure
[02:52] <ypSami> Nubbie: Yeah, I killed it. I just don't know how it got on my system to begin with
[02:52] <patzlaff> The X doesn't works...
[02:52] <Amaranth> deserteagle: err
[02:52] <Amaranth> deserteagle: This is why 3rd party repos are bad :)
[02:52] <jeanmarcmelchior> anyone here that uses debian or only ubuntu users here?
[02:52] <Jordan_U_> Death_Sargent, You don't, you just add noacpi after "quiet splash" basically everywhere in the file, you can just do a find and replace all
[02:52] <Nubbie> ypsami: it came with edgy?
[02:52] <patzlaff> Do you understand Shootfast ?
[02:52] <Shootfast> patzlaff: the nvidia-xconfig configures it precisely for your card
[02:52] <Amaranth> deserteagle: but it probably says something like "X is version 8776, kernel is version 7xxx"
[02:52] <deserteagle> Amaranth: i'm sorry :$ i followed some tutorial i found somewhere
[02:53] <deserteagle> 'xactly
[02:53] <patzlaff> but it doesn't work
[02:53] <knix_> any one here know how to use "Rescue Mode"?
[02:53] <ypSami> Bah. I am totally starting off bare-bones with fiesty.
[02:53] <Shootfast> patzlaff: try just running sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:53] <jeanmarcmelchior> anyone here that uses ubuntu on a thinkpad?
[02:53] <patzlaff> ok
[02:53] <Nubbie> !anyone | knix_
[02:53] <ubotu> knix_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:53] <Amaranth> deserteagle: downgrade linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-##-generic to the edgy version
[02:53] <knix_> ha
[02:53] <pagej97> jean: I use ubuntu on a thinkpad
[02:54] <Pelo> royel,  wireshark might do what I want but it seems a bit more complex then expected
[02:54] <nrayever> hi everyone
[02:54] <Pelo> thanks for the try
[02:54] <jeanmarcmelchior> which thinpad do you have?
[02:54] <harry_> is it possible to make the top gnome bar thinner than 23 pixels?
[02:54] <pagej97> t40
[02:54] <knix_> How do you use Rescue Mode?
[02:54] <knix_> Better?
[02:54] <Pelo> harry_,  you can always hide it
[02:54] <Nubbie> jeanmarcmelchior: jusk tell us your problem.
[02:54] <deserteagle> Amaranth: both?
[02:54] <jeanmarcmelchior> i was thinking about picking up a x40 on ebay
[02:54] <pollyo> I can not seem to get clamtk to recognize the virus datafiles.  Anyone familiar with the program?
[02:54] <Nubbie> knix_: is there a problem with your system...
[02:54] <nrayever> this question may sound stupid but is feisty fawn final release out??
[02:55] <jeanmarcmelchior> does hibernate and suspend to ram work for you?
[02:55] <Nubbie> nrayever: probably not yet.
[02:55] <progrock> I can't get the correct resolution on my desktop.. tried both ati and fglrx drivers.... ati wont get past 800x600, fglrx wont go past 1024x768.... can anyone help
[02:55] <jeanmarcmelchior> also do you run gnome?
[02:55] <deserteagle> Amaranth: one is 2.16-7-10 and the other -11
[02:55] <harry_> Pelo: I want to see it, but just a bit thinner. I guss that's not really an option then?
[02:55] <pagej97> Yes.  Everything works out of the box with Edgy.
[02:55] <knix_> Nubbie, absolutley
[02:55] <pagej97> Yup.
[02:55] <harry_> *guess
[02:55] <Nubbie> knix_: so tell us.....
[02:55] <Amaranth> deserteagle: make sure you have the one for the kenrel you're booting
[02:55] <deserteagle> progrock: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:55] <Pelo> harry_,  you can try looking in gconf-editor
[02:55] <jeanmarcmelchior> everything out of the box?
[02:55] <ypSami> Complete uninstall! Take that, Beagle!
[02:55] <harry_> Pelo: How do I do that?
[02:55] <pagej97> Yeah... I didn't have to look for drivers or fight with anything.  It just works.
[02:55] <jeanmarcmelchior> that sounds impressive, does the t40 have a mic?
[02:56] <knix__> Nubbie, I upgraded my dapper server to edgy, then to feisty, and now when it boots it hangs on "running local scripts etc/rc.local  and just hangs there
[02:56] <Pelo> harry_,  terminal, type   gconf-editor
[02:56] <progrock> deserteagle: tried a bunch of times.. no luck... been editing by hand.. but still cant get 1280x960 which si the only thing that loosk good on my LCD
[02:56] <pagej97> I don't know.... not that I know of.
[02:56] <Nubbie> jeanmarcmelchior: check out google?
[02:56] <firstru7h> hello
[02:56] <jeanmarcmelchior> did you try other window managers besides gnome?
[02:56] <leon_x> HI
[02:56] <Nubbie> knix__: did you remove anything from /etc ?
[02:57] <deserteagle> Amaranth: can't :(
[02:57] <firstru7h> i was wondering if any1 could help me with my networking problem on edgy
[02:57] <pagej97> Not yet.  Just gnome.  Nubbie's right, check out google (or try http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki)
[02:57] <deserteagle> progrock: don't know what to tell you on that, having LCD issues and driver issues myself
[02:57] <blazemonger> is it bad to use proprietary software?
[02:57] <firstru7h> tht sux
[02:58] <Nubbie> blazemonger: probably.
[02:58] <deserteagle> blazemonger: only if you're not paying for it :P
[02:58] <Pelo> firstru7h,  you need to ask a specific question,  no one will volunteer, we're all busy,  we answer questions as they come
[02:58] <ypSami> Does GKrellm work off of gnome-system-monitor, or is it redundant to run both?
[02:58] <Nubbie> blazemonger: if anything ever happened where you relied on it, and it suddenly ceased to exist, you'd be screwed.
[02:58] <dayi1> I know that PowerPC support "stopped" at Dapper Drake ... anyone know if I can safely do an aptitude upgrade to Edgy on my PowerPC machine? (as I'm moving all my 386 machines to Edgy as well)
[02:58] <blazemonger> true
[02:58] <dayi1> ypSami: I believe redundant, as gkrellm you can use on non-gnome systems
[02:58] <ypSami> thanks =)
[02:59] <firstru7h> i have a xircom pcmcia card tht wont be recognized on edgy
[02:59] <Pelo> firstru7h,  look up your model in the forum
[02:59] <firstru7h> kk
[03:00] <ypSami> So I uninstalled beagle, and I ran sudo killall beagle, and beagled-helper and beagled are still sucking up my CPU
[03:00] <_ds_> I've just been looking through various gxine bug reports on launchpad, and I've noticed that several different bug reports have crash dumps with suspiciously similar backtraces... anybody prepared to help out a little by getting some backtraces with full debug info from them? (Starting with the allegedly DVD-related bugs would be best.)
[03:00] <Pelo> brb
[03:00] <Nubbie> ypsami: so kill beagled ?
[03:00] <default-user> sup ppl
[03:00] <deserteagle> is it a good idea to remove the linux-restricted-module version you're kernel is not? (gotta -10 and a -11 but running kernel -10)
[03:00] <ypSami> sudo killall beagle* doesn't work?
[03:01] <XBehave> is there anyway to get ubuntu to crossover the connections itself, using a special driver or something?
[03:01] <Nubbie> xbehave: if your network card doesn't do it automatically, it's impossible.
[03:01] <default-user> anyone know how to fix 'gconf-2.0' not found some features are disabled? i have gconf
[03:02] <piao> how to simple check is feisty but not update && upgrade
[03:02] <XBehave> can many network cards do it?
[03:02] <knix_> Nubbie, any thougths?
[03:02] <Amaranth> deserteagle: you should be running the -11 kernel
[03:02] <deserteagle> :D
[03:02] <deserteagle> so no problems with removing the other one?
[03:02] <Nubbie> piao: check update-manager?
[03:03] <piao> how to simple check is feisty release but not update && upgrade
[03:03] <piao> yes
[03:03] <default-user> has anyone successfully installed gnofract4d on Ubuntu?
[03:03] <Nubbie> piao: i just told you. don't repeat questions, theres lots of people who need help in here. be patient.
[03:03] <piao>  i use cmd:  update and dist-upgrade
[03:03] <piao> ok
[03:03] <Scombr0_> Amaranth is not working ok X server.. looks all grey and dark.. so I have to go back to my old xorg.conf? Or you can give me some more tips?
[03:03] <Nubbie> piao: you should use update-manager to upgrade your system.
[03:04] <Amaranth> Scombr0_: I don't know what you've done to your system
[03:04] <Scombr0_> lol
[03:04] <default-user> lol
[03:04] <richiefrich> piao: you wanna know what ver ubuntu your on ?
[03:04] <progrock> these desktop effects are looking amazing. . now if only it was not in 800x600... then i would be happy
[03:04] <Scombr0_> i know how to fix it.. (i guess)
[03:04] <Nubbie> !resolution | progrock
[03:04] <ubotu> progrock: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:05] <piao> no
[03:05] <default-user> help!
[03:05] <Nubbie> default-user: ask a question. how can we read minds?
[03:05] <knoppix> hello?
[03:05] <progrock> thanks... hope i can find something that works
[03:05] <richiefrich> piao: cat  /etc/*-release
[03:05] <Scombr0_> Amaranth i fixed it.. i mean.. I had to go back to my old xorg.conf (cp /var/backups/xorg/xorg.conf.2007-04-18-19:49:40 /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[03:05] <Shootfast> hello koppix
[03:05] <Nubbie> progrock: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:05] <Scombr0_> now XServer is working ok.. but not upgraded :(
[03:05] <Shootfast> !help | default-user
[03:05] <ubotu> default-user: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:05] <progrock> Nubbie: done that many a time.. no luck
[03:05] <default-user> im being told gconf2.0 is missing... but i have a gconf installed
[03:06] <Nubbie> progrock: did you read every step
[03:06] <default-user> ubuntu 6.10
[03:06] <knix_>  I upgraded my dapper server to edgy, then to feisty, and now when it boots it hangs on "running local scripts etc/rc.local  and just hangs there.   I have no idea how to fix this.  any help is greatly appreciated
[03:06] <Shootfast> default-user: do you have gconf2.0 installed though?
[03:06] <jrib> default-user: what is telling you that it is missing?
[03:06] <Nubbie> progrock: the part where you can choose new screen resolutions?
[03:06] <_ds_> Anybody with the relevant packages and sources.list entries to help out with acquiring some backtraces?
[03:06] <darksoft> whats everyone up to tonight?
[03:06] <forham> Hello how do i install the codecs for amarok to play radiostreams?
[03:06] <progrock> Nubbie: haha, no.. tho i beleive tho only ones i didnt were the input ones... and yes i did the new resolutions
[03:06] <piao> thank you! i check over and over to know is the feisty release
[03:06] <Nubbie> !restricted | forham
[03:06] <ubotu> forham: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:06] <default-user> i'm trying to install the .py for gnofract4d
[03:06] <richiefrich> piao: that helped?
[03:06] <default-user> i've followed several forum tips
[03:07] <darksoft> not working?
[03:07] <forham> Nubbie i went to that site i dont understand what to do with it
[03:07] <Nubbie> progrock: and you restarted xorg?
[03:07] <default-user> and "synaptic" to make sure i have gconf
[03:07] <jrib> !debug > _ds_    (_ds_, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:07] <phix_> hey, is it possible to burn a cd with data tracks and audio tracks? if so, how?
[03:07] <dc_> can someone help me install a .py in exaile?
[03:07] <vimalg2> is feisty final out?
[03:07] <progrock> Nubbie: yeah... both full comp resarts, and ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:07] <piao> what? to cat /etc/issue?
[03:07] <Nubbie> forham: you install those things to make stuff work.
[03:07] <suselol>  espaol?
[03:07] <_ds_> jrib, that would require an Ubuntu chroot environment.
[03:07] <Hairulfr> piao: You can get an almost finaly daily already, and you'll be helping testing the installer
[03:07] <richiefrich> phix_: you can ..
[03:07] <suselol>  espaol?
[03:07] <_ds_> Or an Ubuntu pbuilder login environment.
[03:07] <jrib> _ds_: what would?
[03:07] <Nubbie> !es | suselol
[03:07] <ubotu> suselol: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:07] <default-user> maybe i should try a restart
[03:07] <verb3k> what happned to Feisty? why is it not out yet?
[03:07] <dc_> suselol: hablo un poco
[03:08] <piao> testing the installer?
[03:08] <default-user> thats the only thing i havent tried
[03:08] <phix_> richiefrich: cool, I've been searching google for a long time - how do you do it?
[03:08] <default-user> lol
[03:08] <suselol>  grax
[03:08] <darksoft> I am a bit new to ubu but I've noticed that restarts make a differnece.
[03:08] <dc_> can someone help me install a .py in exaile?
[03:08] <Hairulfr> piao: YEah, does it install at all?
[03:08] <duelboot> verb3k, cause it comes out tomorrow
[03:08] <phix_> richiefrich: that kde burning thng?
[03:08] <Nubbie> verb3k: there are 24 hours in a day, nobody said it would be released at 12:01AM.
[03:08] <_ds_> jrib, thing is, I'm running etch and am gxine upstream...
[03:08] <default-user> thanks dark
[03:08] <darksoft> np
[03:08] <Hairulfr> piao: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[03:08] <dc_> suselol: hablo un poco
[03:08] <_ds_> ... actually, I tell a lie, lenny...
[03:08] <tjcarter> I wonder, is anyone else having ivtv issues in feisty?
[03:09] <richiefrich> phix_: the only thing i know is you can make a media-cd like what sony had with there root-kit
[03:09] <default-user> anyone know if eterm or aterm is compatible with UB?
[03:09] <tjcarter> jumpy picture, maybe?
[03:09] <Nubbie> tjcarter: tell us your problem.
[03:09] <suselol> [ dc_ ] ---`,'.-  no hay problema ya encontre la del ubuntu en espaol grax
[03:09] <progrock> well, maybe its a sync problem... ill have to research the xorg log... which im not too familiar with
[03:09] <tjcarter> PVR500/150s
[03:09] <Redemption042> Could someone help me? I'm running Fiesty and I can't mount usb thumb drives with the desktop icon. If I try it gives an error message "you are not priveleged to mount this volume
[03:09] <darksoft> has anyone had trouble pulling down a copy of beryl?
[03:09] <darksoft> I can't seem to locate it.
[03:09] <piao> thank you
[03:09] <forham> Nubbie this one: libxine-extracodecs ???
[03:09] <tjcarter> Nubbie: I don't know if I have a problem yet  =D
[03:09] <jrib> _ds_: you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash ?
[03:09] <forham> for mp3
[03:09] <default-user> hey dark try using 'synaptic'
[03:09] <darksoft> thanks :)
[03:09] <duelboot> darksoft, yes I have it on several computers
[03:09] <default-user> in terminal
[03:09] <tjcarter> Nubbie: Might be "Comcast SUCKS!"
[03:09] <darksoft> will do now..
[03:09] <Nubbie> darksoft: #ubuntu-effects or #beryl for help with beryl.
[03:09] <duelboot> darksoft, google beryl and you'll find it
[03:10] <Hairulfr> piao: You should probably read this first: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000281.html
[03:10] <_ds_> jrib, seen it, still needs a chroot or pbuilder login env.
[03:10] <darksoft> working, many thanks friends :)
[03:10] <Redemption042> I've reinstalled Hal and gnome-mount to no avail.
[03:10] <piao> ok. read is now ;)
[03:10] <default-user> is Beryl heavy on ram?
[03:10] <Redemption042> I think it's some weird permissions thing.
[03:10] <jrib> _ds_: so what is your question?
[03:10] <dc_> can someone help me install a .py in exaile?
[03:10] <phix_> richiefrich: ok. I was thinking more like the Total Annihilation cd, where track 1 contains the game data, and the rest are straight up audio tracks you could hear in a boom box
[03:10] <tjcarter> default-user: Yes.
[03:10] <forham> Xine Nubbie?
[03:10] <default-user> awww
[03:11] <dc_> suselol: no comprende... no estas una problema?
[03:11] <tjcarter> default-user: It's heavy like MacOS X is, for similar reasons (3D compositing)
[03:11] <Nubbie> redemption042: that means your user doesn't have priveleges to do that. go to system > administration > users and edit your user to be able to mount removable media.
[03:11] <_ds_> jrib, I just need some backtraces. For one thing, I have a suspicion that several reported gxine bugs have the same root cause...
[03:11] <jrib> _ds_: oh you are actually looking for a volunteer... I misread your question
[03:11] <default-user> thanks everyone i'll be back to chat again
[03:11] <Nubbie> dc_: try #exaile
[03:11] <richiefrich> phix_: well i know you can make .. if i can just remmeber what its called the proper name
[03:11] <dc_> Nubbie: thanks :)
[03:11] <DagonX> Would someone recomment a dvd burner that works
[03:11] <suselol> [ dc_ ] ---`,'.-  nada
[03:11] <phix_> richiefrich: I think it's called mixed mode
[03:12] <Redemption042> Nubbie: I'm using Xubuntu, is there a cli command I could run?
[03:12] <phix_> DagonX: go to newegg
[03:12] <Nubbie> dagonX: pretty much all dvd burners work.
[03:12] <dc_> suselol: :)
[03:12] <Nubbie> redemption042: i don't know.
[03:12] <combatmode> Something wrong with my Ktorrent
[03:12] <DagonX> I can't get gnome burn or K3b to burn disk
[03:12] <sldkfj> K3b works, or does it not?
[03:12] <analogue_> whats the most bang for the buck dual head dvi video card for ubuntu w/ good drivers?  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:13] <wastrel> "ubunto"
[03:13] <dc_> combatmode: you can get it through synaptic
[03:13] <dc_> combatmode: i use wine
[03:13] <DagonX> k3b fails every time I try to burn a dvd
[03:13] <piao> sudo apt-get install wine
[03:13] <Hairulfr> analogue_: No, but planning on ordering one tomorrow, as far as I can read, you can get some pretty nice ones really cheap
[03:13] <Nubbie> dagonx: so why don't you tell us the error it fails with.
[03:13] <richiefrich> phix_: k3b
[03:13] <richiefrich> phix_: install that and it is mixed mode
[03:13] <sldkfj> Hairulfr, I got that GS   512megs AGP
[03:14] <analogue_> hariulfr: how much is it going for in $$$?
[03:14] <phix_> alright! thanks
[03:14] <DagonX> It doesn'
[03:14] <blazemonger> why doesn't rms like ubuntu or debian?
[03:14] <combatmode> yea i in synaptic
[03:14] <combatmode> what about it
[03:14] <sldkfj> 8x
[03:14] <dc_> combatmode: just use terminal: sudo apt-get install
[03:14] <Nubbie> blazemonger: what is rms.
[03:14] <dc_> combatmode: just use terminal: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:14] <pagej97> Richard Stallman?
[03:14] <Hairulfr> analogue_: Ahmm, I have no idea, but a quick conversion tells me below 160USD
[03:14] <jrib> !offtopic | blazemonger
[03:14] <munki> blazemonger because he's a douchebag, he thinks that any distro that allows non-free packages in their repositories is bad etc
[03:14] <ubotu> blazemonger: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:14] <Hairulfr> sldkfj: Any good?
[03:14] <richiefrich> pagej97: also xcdroast
[03:14] <DagonX> It doesn't give an error. I just says it failed and plays a little song
[03:14] <Redemption042> Nubbie, thanks for trying to help me.
[03:14] <Nubbie> !language | munki
[03:14] <ubotu> munki: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:14] <analogue_> sdlkfg: any rants about the 7600?
[03:15] <combatmode> Package wine is not available
[03:15] <analogue_> hair: nice. right aroun dmy price point
[03:15] <munki> !thanksforthecopypasta | Nubbie
[03:15] <sldkfj> yeah,  no problems
[03:15] <Nubbie> !wine > combatmode (read this)
[03:15] <analogue_> sldkfj: you got a dual head dvi setup?
[03:15] <dc_> combatmode: do you have the proper repository in your sources.list?
[03:15] <sldkfj> nope, just a single
[03:15] <richiefrich> pagej97: opps
[03:20] <Mike22e> hey, can someone help me out? i just installed ubuntu on a new partition but kept my windows vista partition. someone in here told me that when it was done, there would be a grub bootmenu allowing me to choose vista or ubuntu. there is a bootmenu but it only allows me to use ubuntu, and for some reason there is 3 of them, one is safe mode i beleive. is there anyway that i can edit the grub menu to make it (ubuntu, ubuntu (safe), vis
[03:20] <analogue_> ok..time to do some research on dual head dvi w/ the geforce 7600
[03:20] <combatmode> nope
[03:20] <sldkfj> I got it at the local micro center down the street
[03:20] <tjcarter> okay, it's settled.  ivtv with pvr500 (NTSC) with current kernel in feisty has "jumpy" picture.
[03:20] <combatmode> dc_ how can i tell
[03:20] <analogue_> ooh..microcenter only 10 mins away
[03:20] <Nubbie> mike22e: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[03:20] <Hairulfr> analogue_: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=6&l3=271&model=1175&modelmenu=1
[03:20] <Pelo> Mike22e,   vista doesn't like grub  , check the forum for a fix,  you can have vista on the menu but you have to work for it
[03:20] <analogue_> hair: tnx mon
[03:20] <Hairulfr> That's one, but there are a million
[03:20] <tjcarter> Cause unknown.  Fix unknown.  Haven't gotten that far yet.  =)
[03:20] <_ds_> jrib, exactly.
[03:20] <Mike22e> Nubbie: 6.06.1
[03:20] <dc_> combatmode: what build do you use?
[03:20] <Nubbie> mike22e: apparently vista doesn't work with grub, pelo knows more about it than i do.
[03:20] <forham> Nubbie its not working can you please tell me which codecs i need to install for mp3 for radiostreams that site isnt helping me i tried to install xine but it didnt work i keep getting this error: No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.
[03:20] <combatmode> When i check my about
[03:20] <combatmode> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[03:20] <dc_> combatmode: is it edgy, dapper, fiesty, etc..?
[03:20] <Nubbie> forham: what kind of stream are you trying to play?
[03:20] <Pelo> Nubbie,  I just know that vista wonT' be added automaticaly,  there is probably a fix in the forum or he can ask in #grub
[03:20] <forham> just a radiostream in amarok
[03:20] <tjcarter> current workaround: 2.6.17-11-generic from edgy with current ivtv for that kernel from source.
[03:20] <Pelo> Mike22e,  you can also try asking in #grub
[03:20] <Nubbie> forham: what kind of stream.
[03:20] <Mike22e> Pelo: thanks, ill ask in there
[03:20] <erpo> I have a program that on older versions of linux would run like this: LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 programname ... but now that I'm using 7.04, it doesn't work any more. It gives me the error message: "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:20] <erpo> What should I do?
[03:20] <sldkfj> analogue_, hahahha, I can't stop laughing
[03:20] <erpo> I'm using ubuntu 7.04.
[03:20] <_ds_> A web interface for getting full backtraces (and possibly local variables, parameters etc.) from reported crash dumps would be very useful...
[03:20] <sldkfj> how can I draw a picture for you?
[03:20] <Nubbie> pelo: do you think that was intentional? as windows pwns grub, that grub is getting even?
[03:20] <PenguinistaKC> msg Nickserv identify direwolf
[03:20] <combatmode> dc_ For Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)
[03:20] <Nubbie> _ds_: there is an interface: its called apport
[03:20] <munki> PenguinistaKC now i know your pass
[03:20] <munki> haha
[03:20] <sldkfj> or read about it.... http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0243878
[03:20] <Pelo> Nubbie,  no idea,  but I wouldnT' be surprised if ms made it purposefully difficult
[03:20] <dc_> combatmode: ok go to terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <betts1> How do you set up a computer lab with Ubuntu that has one login server?
[03:20] <_ds_> Nubbie, URL? (And don't point me at packages.ubuntu.com...)
[03:20] <dc_> combatmode: wait exit that, my fauly
[03:20] <Nubbie> betts1: as in thin clients?
[03:20] <dc_> combatmode: wait exit that, my fault
[03:20] <Hairulfr> Pelo: As far as I can tell they've blocked MSN transfers of JPEGs that been edited in GIMP... Weird
[03:20] <m4st3r> when is ubnute supposed to be released in local time in Korea?
[03:20] <combatmode> k
[03:20] <Nubbie> _ds_: http://google.com
[03:21] <_ds_> How useful.
[03:21] <dc_> combatmode: type this into terminal: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:21] <Nubbie> _ds_: it is very useful. try it out.
[03:21] <dc_> combatmode: then this:
[03:21] <dc_> sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[03:21] <Lord_Vader> isn't tomorrow today?
[03:21] <peepsalot> not yet
[03:22] <Nubbie> lord_Vader: somewhere in the world, probably.
[03:22] <dc_> combatmode: tell me when you are done with that
[03:22] <Lord_Vader> Nubbie, it is here
[03:22] <m4st3r> When will ubuntu be released in korea?
[03:22] <piao> quit
[03:22] <Nubbie> Lord_vader: i would assume it's being released april 19th south african time.
[03:22] <combatmode> dc_ it say "wget: missing URl"
[03:22] <Nubbie> m4st3r: on april 19th.
[03:22] <Lord_Vader> Nubbie, when is that? I don't keep track on south african time
[03:23] <combatmode> nvm
[03:23] <combatmode> wait
[03:23] <Nubbie> lord_vader: some time soon?
[03:23] <m4st3r> today is 19th ...
[03:23] <pollyo> Do they have a gnome proccess list program?
[03:23] <Lord_Vader> I guess
[03:23] <tjcarter> m4st3r: 30 seconds after it is released in the United States  ;)
[03:23] <Nubbie> m4st3r: so you think people know exactly what hour and minute it will be released.
[03:23] <combatmode> dc_ done
[03:23] <tjcarter> 30 usec maybe?
[03:23] <combatmode> what now?
[03:23] <NanaQ> Hi,is there some radio program on ubuntu?
[03:23] <dc_> combatmode: u got it past the wget thing?
[03:23] <Nubbie> nanaq: banshee <-- :D
[03:24] <pavs> is this channel officially open to feisty questions?
[03:24] <NanaQ> Ok,thanks nubbie,I'll try it.
[03:24] <Death_Sargent> noacpi worked
[03:24] <dc_> combatmode: type sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <Death_Sargent> boot splash is still screwed
[03:24] <dc_> combatmode: then sudo apt-get install wine
[03:25] <NanaQ> Hi,any body try using "aptitude install fvwm" to install fvwm? It doesn't work!
[03:26] <Malachi> Serious question, guys. I failed when trying to install Edgy (which was my fault, I had to remove some peripherals and I guess that screwed it up, no biggie), but now it's not recognizing the hard drive.
[03:26] <bbb> hi
[03:26] <Malachi> Any way I can reformat it?
[03:26] <Nubbie> machi: gparted
[03:26] <combatmode> dc_ i got this sources list txt
[03:27] <dc_> combatmode: what do you mean?
[03:27] <_ds_> Nubbie, I'd previously seen mention of apport-retrace, but nothing about a launchpad service which runs it. I'd therefore reasonably assumed that it had to be installed locally...
[03:27] <bbb> How can I create a file in here: /etc/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc I'am the root! But cannot make folder and file here.. .
[03:27] <dc_> combatmode: did it just open it up?
[03:27] <combatmode> dc_ i typed in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <Nubbie> _ds_: of course it has to be installed locally.
[03:27] <dc_> combatmode: exit that
[03:27] <dc_> combatmode: we dont need that
[03:27] <combatmode> dc_ and pop out
[03:27] <Mike22e> anyone know why i cant login as root in a terminal? i just installed linux, and i set a password. but when i type in the password i get "Authentication Failure. Sorry". any ideas?
[03:27] <Nubbie> _ds_: thats how it gets the trace.
[03:27] <combatmode> dc_ which one we need
[03:27] <_ds_> Nubbie, not according to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2007-March/023440.html
[03:27] <Nubbie> mike22e: use sudo.
[03:27] <dc_> combatmode: what do you mean?  i told you earlier to exit that and do all of the terminal commans
[03:27] <munki> Mike22e ubuntu doesn't have a root user by default
[03:28] <munki> for reasons unknown
[03:28] <Mike22e> alright. thanks
[03:28] <NanaQ> sudo pwd root
[03:28] <Nubbie> munki: its so newbies don't do a rm -r /
[03:28] <Nubbie> munki: theres your reason.
[03:28] <munki> okay Nubbie sudo rm -r /
[03:28] <munki> how about that :)
[03:28] <NanaQ> munki,too bad.
[03:29] <Nubbie> munki: it wouldn't happen accidentally if you had to enter your password beforehand.
[03:29] <RawSewage> I think Feisty was just released
[03:29] <NanaQ> Not yet.
[03:29] <Nubbie> munki: and also its more secure as nothing the user runs will have root privileges.
[03:29] <munki> Nubbie i think this distrust of users is a huge violation of open source policy
[03:29] <Mike22e> so do i need to type sudo infront of ever command that required root?
[03:29] <munki> tbh
[03:29] <combatmode> dc_ im confuse now i did all terminal comands i just copy paste
[03:29] <Nubbie> munki: explain how?
[03:29] <Stoffer> I'm only getting 50% signal strength with the default driver for my wireless card (vs 100% in windows).  Would changing the driver help?  And if so, how do I do so?
[03:29] <NanaQ> no mike22e.
[03:29] <sldkfj> to help stave off the world hatred for ol' Glory,  I'd like to make it known that there isn't anyone I know of in the US that has emphatically insisted that the new release of Ubuntu stay off the net and out of the hands of anyone anywhere else in the world, til it's the 19th 12:00:01 edst US.
[03:29] <NanaQ> su root can do what you think.
[03:29] <munki> i think the user should be able to do what they want, to arbitrarily restrict them is kind of pointless
[03:30] <combatmode> dc_ and the last comand gave me a "sources.list"
[03:30] <Nubbie> munki: by being more secure, it's violating a policy. what policy says all systems must be able to log in as root?
[03:30] <munki> stupidity has no bounds :)
[03:30] <sahafeez> what kernel level is 7.04?
[03:30] <Pelo> sldkfj,  that's what  GWB said, I didn'T beleive him either
[03:30] <Pelo> ;)
[03:30] <wastrel> munki:  there's no restriction, if you want a root password you can set one
[03:30] <sldkfj> :)
[03:30] <Lord_Vader> sahafeez, 2.6.20
[03:30] <combatmode> dc_ last one u gave me was  type this into terminal: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:31] <Mike22e> NanaQ: i tried su root, and i get the same thing
[03:31] <dc_> combatmode: i gave u more after that
[03:31] <combatmode> dc_ then sudo wget
[03:31] <progrock> Ok, i found out my problem...its because my DVI was goign to my TV... now can soemoen help me figure out how to set up dual monitor?.. or jsut point me to the how to if there is one
[03:31] <munki> why is it that on my gentoo boxen, and really on every single linux distro that i have ever in my life installed an possibly will ever install ebsides ubuntu there is no troot pass
[03:31] <Nubbie> mike22e: what are you trying to do
[03:31] <wastrel> Mike22e:  the root account is disabled by default
[03:31] <munki> s/is no/is/
[03:31] <Nubbie> munki: this is ubuntu support channel. try #gentoo.
[03:31] <wastrel> munki:  you can set one if you want one
[03:31] <HYPOCRISY> hi
[03:31] <dc_> combatmode: i have noc lue what you did, this is what i told you:
[03:31] <cyberfr0g`> sup
[03:31] <NanaQ> You must set a root password first,type "man sudo"
[03:31] <wastrel> munki:  this is offtopic for a support channel, try ranting on #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:31] <munki> Nubbie i'm not looking for support for gentoo
[03:31] <jrib> !root > munki    (munki, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:31] <bbb> hey guys...plz help me! How can I make a file in a root folder?
[03:31] <dc_> combatmode: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:31] <combatmode> ok got it
[03:31] <munki> plus #gentoo sucks
[03:32] <bbb> sudo make ???
[03:32] <Clarrisa_2008> from the bash prompt how do I find out what groups I am a member of ?
[03:32] <combatmode> dc_ got it
[03:32] <dc_> combatmode: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[03:32] <Nubbie> munki: then don't compare the two. i'll continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like.
[03:32] <jrib> bbb: what file are you making exactly?
[03:32] <Lord_Vader> bbb, sudo?
[03:32] <HYPOCRISY> ?
[03:32] <munki> i know what sudo is jrib tyvm
[03:32] <cyberfr0g`> investigating
[03:32] <dc_> combatmode: sudo apt-get update
[03:32] <sahafeez> thanks!
[03:32] <jrib> munki: what is your question?
[03:32] <Lord_Vader> bbb, sudo touch filename?
[03:32] <wastrel> Clarrisa_2008:    groups
[03:32] <bbb> jrib: I try  to configure xubuntu for kisok mode
[03:32] <dc_> combatmode: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:32] <Toyd> Clarrisa_2008,  :P
[03:32] <dc_> combatmode: thats it
[03:32] <bbb> And i need to make /etc/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc
[03:32] <kitche> munki: it explains why ubuntu uses it instead of just plain root
[03:32] <jrib> !sudo > bbb    (bbb, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:32] <Lord_Vader> bbb, sudo touch filename?
[03:32] <Lord_Vader> ...
[03:32] <bbb> Okay! Thank you!
[03:33] <combatmode> Install these packages without verification
[03:33] <combatmode> y
[03:33] <gnomefreak> jrib: he was just complaining that ubuntu is only one that does use su
[03:33] <_ds_> jrib, Nubbie, now I'm getting somewhere - need-i386-retrace
[03:33] <munki> jrib i was jsut wondering why it was that every single distro ever, literally, besides ubuntu, has a root user[by default]  and ubuntu doesn't
[03:33] <munki> taht's all
[03:33] <dc_> can someone help me install a .py in exaile?
[03:33] <Clarrisa_2008> wastrel, thank you... I haven't messed with my linux box for a while and have forgotten some things
[03:33] <jrib> _ds_: cool, didn't know about that either
[03:33] <Puppy_> I am copying 4G.B.
[03:33] <kitche> munki: ubuntu does have one it's just locked
[03:33] <NanaQ> python.
[03:33] <Puppy_> oopss, just a sec
[03:33] <Lord_Vader> munki, maybe africans don't like root-access or something
[03:33] <Nubbie> _ds_: is the application outright crashing? apport only works with crashes i believe.
[03:33] <munki> Lord_Vader that's what i thought
[03:33] <Lord_Vader> lol
[03:33] <munki> and realized it's the only logical explanation
[03:33] <Lord_Vader> yeah
[03:33] <likefists2heaven> does anyone know why cnn.com (and other major websites) would appear to be down? I know they  are up I can check them on my desktop
[03:33] <munki> besides 'we don't trust the users'
[03:34] <likefists2heaven> but I can browse to ubuntu.com
[03:34] <Lord_Vader> :P
[03:34] <likefists2heaven> and it's fine
[03:34] <_ds_> Nubbie, I see crash reports in launchpad...
[03:34] <dc_> combatmode: does wine work?
[03:34] <wastrel> munki:  there's a list of reasons on that rootsudo wikipage you refuse to read
[03:34] <Nubbie> munki: you should come in more often and tell users they can't retrieve the files they accidentally deleted from /etc more often then.
[03:34] <NanaQ> how about i686 kernel parkage?I install it ,but doesn't know it work or not.
[03:34] <combatmode> waiting
[03:34] <munki> Nubbie i've been doing support for systems for a while [*nix, windows]  and i've never had a user delete something 'accidentally' that is both irrecoverable and key
[03:34] <lalala> waiting
[03:35] <munki> but you know
[03:35] <combatmode> dc_ waiting
[03:35] <munki> 10 years aint shit
[03:35] <munki> :)
[03:35] <dc_> combatmode: waiting for headers?
[03:35] <dc_> can someone help me install a .py in exaile?
[03:35] <wastrel> offtopic and you can't say "shit" in here
[03:35] <wastrel> please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <munki> my B
[03:35] <dc_> !language
[03:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:35] <Nubbie> munki: like 3 times yesterday i've seen people come in here, either deleting something in /etc or deleting the root of their webserver or something.
[03:35] <wastrel> Nubbie:  you too
[03:35] <P_Kable> How can I remove a user in commands ?
[03:35] <Nubbie> munki: all were logged in as root.
[03:35] <P_Kable> adduser add one but to remove ?
[03:35] <lalala>  userdel
[03:35] <Nubbie> wastrel: k i'm done. mah bad.
[03:35] <jrib> P_Kable: deluser
[03:35] <P_Kable> yeah thx
[03:36] <combatmode> dc_ its download / fetching
[03:36] <adultswim> Nubbie, thats why you take away their sudo rights :P
[03:36] <lalala> combatmode: what is?
[03:36] <dc_> combatmode: ok cool
[03:36] <Nubbie> adultswim: no you just make it more difficult to delete key system files.
[03:36] <dc_> lalala: i got him; walking him through wine install
[03:36] <paradoxx> !tex
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <paradoxx> !latex
[03:36] <bbb> I've read the page, but i dont' know how to make a folder now?
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about latex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <lalala> dc_: c00l
[03:36] <jrib> !cli > bbb    (bbb, see the private message from ubotu)
[03:36] <paradoxx> Does any know of any good tex editors?
[03:37] <livinded> paradoxx: vim
[03:37] <adultswim> paradoxx, i like latex
[03:37] <sldkfj> likefists2heaven, I get cnn
[03:37] <livinded> 06:29:25 -!- Bales<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[03:37] <combatmode> dc_: Setting up wine ...
[03:37] <Jh00> uhh, simple question: how do I see the list of people that are connected to this channel, just like mIRC?
[03:37] <paradoxx> adultswim: There is an linux client for latex?
[03:37] <lalala> i dont like latex, but there isn't a 2nd option...
[03:37] <combatmode> dc_ its unpacked
[03:37] <bbb> Ah! Great! Thanks!
[03:37] <lalala> latex
[03:37] <combatmode> dc_ done i guess
[03:37] <adultswim> paradoxx, i thought so
[03:37] <paradoxx> livinded: How does vim do latex?
[03:37] <dc_> combatmode: sweet
[03:37] <combatmode> dc_ so now how or where do i run this winehq
[03:37] <mike1> where is Fiesty?
[03:37] <Jh00> I'm using Xchat
[03:38] <livinded> paradoxx: I thought you said, text not tex
[03:38] <sldkfj> Jh00, what are you using?
[03:38] <Nubbie> jh00: look above the users
[03:38] <lalala> paradoxx: ctrl+w
[03:38] <dc_> combatmode: what are you running? what type of file?
[03:38] <dc_> combatmode: installing a cd or what
[03:38] <jrib> paradoxx: vim with vim-latexsuite is nice.  You may also want to look at kile and winefish
[03:38] <wastrel> Jh00:  /names
[03:38] <Nubbie> jh00: "1 ops, 1140 total"
[03:38] <likefists2heaven> sldkfj: I seem to be able to access ubuntu.com, and others. When I do get through to cnn.com it looks like a very stripped down version
[03:38] <likefists2heaven> almost text only
[03:38] <Jh00> very nice the one who told me to ctrl+w
[03:38] <lalala> mike1: I want to know it too. where is feisty
[03:38] <Jh00> Feisty = RC 20070415
[03:38] <lalala> Jh00: it was me
[03:39] <sldkfj> Jh00, pull the nicklist panel out from the right margin
[03:39] <_gtt_> can anyone help me with a Samba problem?
[03:39] <peepsalot> mike1, lalala, on a server somewhere
[03:39] <combatmode> dc_ my ktorrent not loading so
[03:39] <paradoxx> jrib: What abotu it is nice?
[03:39] <Jh00> Oh thank you sldkfj , now I found it (finally!)
[03:39] <blazemonger> synth device: not enabled in config, midi device: virtual raw midi
[03:39] <lalala> peepsalot: the latest appears to be 0418
[03:39] <_gtt_> it worked one day, and now it's read only.
[03:39] <combatmode> dc_ i think someone told me get utorrent
[03:39] <blazemonger> is that bad if i want to use rosegarden
[03:39] <dc_> combatmode: what does ktorrent have to do with wine?
[03:39] <mike1> lalala: I have it installed but the 'final' must be soon
[03:39] <dc_> combatmode: ohh
[03:39] <dc_> combatmode: thats dumb
[03:39] <_gtt_> i've only got one share, and i use the built in interface.
[03:39] <dc_> combatmode: dont use wine for that
[03:39] <mike1> (*_*)
[03:39] <sldkfj> Jh00, good deal...
[03:39] <_gtt_> it just doesn't make sense to me.
[03:39] <dc_> combatmode: just use azereus, its native
[03:39] <IowaDave> gtt: what's happening with samba 4 u?
[03:39] <mike1> use beer
[03:40] <Jh00> sldkfj, I wonder why thats not default
[03:40] <whitebunny> is there final work being done to prepare the final ISO?
[03:40] <_gtt_> i see the shares, but it's read only
[03:40] <jrib> paradoxx: a lot of macros are setup.  And you can compile and view documents with a couple of key presses.  If you like vim, then it's the way to go imo.  If you google for vim-latexsuite, there is a short guide that describes how it works
[03:40] <sldkfj> likefists2heaven, I get cnn just like ever before,  I don't know what's up
[03:40] <combatmode> Dam i dropped my ZEN VISION M
[03:40] <combatmode> >,<
[03:40] <_gtt_> i want it to not ask for a username/pw
[03:40] <Toyd> How do  i run an app from putty?
[03:40] <_gtt_> and it was fine.
[03:40] <combatmode> dc_ azereus?
[03:40] <Toyd> does anyone know
[03:40] <paradoxx> jrib: kk, thx
[03:40] <likefists2heaven> sldkfj: alright, thanks
[03:40] <sldkfj> Jh00, ask in #XChat
[03:40] <combatmode> dc_ the default?
[03:40] <Jh00> I will do, thanks again!
[03:41] <firefly2442> Toyd, commandline app?
[03:41] <_gtt_> everything's controlled by the smb.conf right?
[03:41] <whitebunny> what is everyone looking forward to in the new release?
[03:41] <_gtt_> hrmm.
[03:41] <wastrel> _gtt_:  pretty much i believe
[03:41] <firefly2442> whitebunny, compiz
[03:41] <Toyd> firefly2442,  which putty is the commandline app?
[03:41] <firefly2442> Toyd, what application are you trying to run?
[03:41] <whitebunny> firefly2442: same for me! and hoping it runs good on AMD64
[03:41] <Hairulfr> firefly2442: Why are you looking forward to compiz?
[03:42] <Mike22e> im trying to install my graphics driver, and it says i need binutils package installed, any idea how to do that? (sorry im really new to using linux)
[03:42] <IowaDave> ok. u'r going to hate me for saying this. most likely a permissions issue or a samba config setting. best to ask in the forums. consider posting your smb.conf file there and asking for suggestions to get r/w going
[03:42] <_gtt_> i might have a back up of one that worked before i reinstalled (even though it worked for a bit AFTER a reinstall)... i could try copying that unless you're skilled enough to gaze over my smf.conf and tell me what's goofed.
[03:42] <sldkfj> 2 hrs 19 mins til the 19th
[03:42] <Toyd> i am trying to use putty with xmaing to get a linux app to run
[03:42] <firefly2442> Hairulfr, Beryl didn't work for me (white screen)
[03:42] <Toyd> xming*
[03:42] <combatmode> dc_ how do i install azereus?
[03:42] <Jh00> combatmode, just use ADD/REMOVE...
[03:43] <bbb> One more question: How to create a textfile: sudo mk????
[03:43] <combatmode> jh00 i kno but when i search
[03:43] <_gtt_> i thought it might be a permissions issue, but i haven't changed any..i only used chmod once when i created the home folder for vmware_machines
[03:43] <combatmode> jh00 i don't see it
[03:43] <Jh00> let me see
[03:43] <Hairulfr> firefly2442: Oh, harsh and bother, compiz is like the retarded younger brother. Too bad. Maybe Beryl will work for you now. A lot has happened since it first came out.
[03:43] <IowaDave> gt: touch <filename>.txt
[03:43] <spikeb> beryl is ceasing to exist.
[03:43] <combatmode> jh00 i don't see it azereus?
[03:43] <Hairulfr> spikeb: I know
[03:43] <_gtt_> i guess i can look at it. and try the forums too.
[03:43] <Jh00> combatmode, strange, I see it. Which version are you using?
[03:43] <_gtt_> thanks dave.
[03:43] <Nubbie> spikeb: damn beryl is a much nicer name than compiz :l
[03:43] <Hairulfr> spikeb: Or, merging
[03:44] <h3h_timo> hey all, what is the best way to do a dist upgrade??
[03:44] <_gtt_> was hoping to get an immediate solution here... it was worth a shot./
[03:44] <wastrel> compiz is a terrible name
[03:44] <firefly2442> Toyd, just do ./location/program to execute it in putty
[03:44] <spikeb> Hairulfr, yes,t hey're becoming the main plugin developers for compiz
[03:44] <wastrel> !upgrade | h3h_timo
[03:44] <ubotu> h3h_timo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:44] <Pelo> did beryl/compiz pick a new name yet ?
[03:44] <h3h_timo> and should i wait till feisty, or go ahead and upgrade to edgy??
[03:44] <Nubbie> h3h_timo: update-manager
[03:44] <_gtt_> i might try restoring that old smb.conf too.
[03:44] <IowaDave> gtt: it's not much help, sorry. what you gain in the forums is that the responses accumulate until somebody gets to the bottom of it.
[03:44] <Stoffer> how do I change a device driver?
[03:44] <combatmode> jh00 ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[03:44] <bbb> Thank you, IowaDave!
[03:44] <h3h_timo> Nubbie, everytime i use the update manager it screws something up
[03:44] <spikeb> h3h_timo, you need to upgrade to edgy before you can upgrade to feisty anyways.
[03:44] <Pelo> will there be a LTS of feisty ?
[03:44] <combatmode> jh00 is there update that i miss?
[03:44] <spikeb> Pelo, no. next LTS isn't until next year.
[03:44] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  you are not alone
[03:44] <_gtt_> right, thanks for that tip.
[03:44] <kitche> Jh00: don't go into #xchat and ask since ubuntu by default doesn't use xchat it uses xchat-gnome
[03:45] <_gtt_> gonna go post now :)
[03:45] <Toyd> the linux location of the app ?
[03:45] <Nubbie> pelo: are you kidding :O editing sources and using dist-upgrade is dirty.
[03:45] <combatmode> jh00 i don't see it azereus?
[03:45] <_gtt_> what should i look at as far as the permissions?
[03:45] <sldkfj> bring all the kiddies their toys
[03:45] <analogue_> dual dvi geforce 7600 only $80 @ tiger direct..wowoza
[03:45] <GeekChick|> I have gnome-desktop and xubuntu-desktop installed, how do i change the system boot splash screen from ubuntu to xubuntu? its just a preference of mine.
[03:45] <_gtt_> just go to the folder contaioning the shared folder and do an ls -aFl ?
[03:45] <firefly2442> I'm surprised, I thought there would be more people on IRC before the release...
[03:45] <h3h_timo> Pelo, is there a better way?
[03:45] <combatmode> anyone i recevied a update should  i update "libx11-6 "
[03:45] <wastrel> firefly2442:  1.1k isn't enough for you?
[03:45] <_gtt_> that way i can post it with the message and my smb.conf so that readers will already have it
[03:45] <Pelo> Nubbie,   sorry I don't get the comment
[03:46] <IowaDave> gtt: first, is the read-only happening on your linux machine or another?
[03:46] <firefly2442> wastrel, I was thinking 1.5k ;)
[03:46] <wastrel> tomorrow
[03:46] <Toyd> yay it work
[03:46] <Toyd> s
[03:46] <Toyd> thanks
[03:46] <combatmode> i don't see it azereus?
[03:46] <_gtt_> pretty sure the linux machine's fine, but it's from two windows boxes.
[03:46] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  make a list of the extra packages you have installed,   move your /home folder ot a seperate partition and install the new distro from scratch
[03:46] <Nubbie> pelo: upgrading with apt-get dist-upgrade is dirty. it doesn't flush abandoned packages, or anything.
[03:46] <combatmode> in the add/remove app don't have it
[03:46] <Toyd> kewl
[03:46] <combatmode> azereus?
[03:46] <|Jason8|> Hey all.  When Ubuntu grabs a package off the 'net, does it save the file and stuff on the hard drive, and then install it, keeping the install package?
[03:46] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  you can make a script to sudo apt-get install all your extra packages in one go
[03:46] <IowaDave> gtt: so... you see the windows shares but they are read-only?
[03:46] <_gtt_> lemme vnc to it and test it.
[03:46] <Nubbie> combatmode: use synaptic
[03:47] <Pelo> Nubbie,  gtkorphan
[03:47] <Nubbie> !ntfs-3g | iowadave
[03:47] <ubotu> iowadave: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:47] <combatmode> Nubbie then search for what
[03:47] <_gtt_> yes.
[03:47] <firefly2442> |Jason8|, /var/cache/apt/archive/
[03:47] <bruenig> combatmode, to add all the extra official repositories and install azureus, make sure synaptic, update-manager, or any other package managers are closed, open a terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and copy and paste the following all at once:
[03:47] <bruenig> sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/universe$/universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install azureus
[03:47] <Nubbie> combatmode: "wine"
[03:47] <jason_> hi all how is it going
[03:47] <bruenig> oh for wine?
[03:47] <Toyd> hey can i also run mac osx apps through putty?
[03:47] <h3h_timo> Pelo, you wanna explain a little more?
[03:47] <bruenig> just replace azureus with wine at the end
[03:48] <IowaDave> ubotu: good point, and gtt: i am not an expert on file systems. note that writing to ntfs from ubuntu is not officially supported for reasons given here. read-only may be a good idea!
[03:48] <_gtt_> think i tested it last night, but double checking now.
[03:48] <Toyd> this is kewl
[03:48] <bruenig> !thanks | IowaDave
[03:48] <ubotu> IowaDave: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:48] <Nubbie> iowadave: ubotu is a robot.
[03:48] <firefly2442> |Jason8|, check that directory, that's where apt stores packages
[03:48] <|Jason8|> firefly2442, thanks!
[03:48] <Nubbie> lol.
[03:48] <_gtt_> it's hosted on the linux box's ext3 drive.
[03:48] <MLimburg> here's a question outside of left field
[03:48] <bruenig> MLimburg, so in the stands?
[03:48] <Toyd> MLimburg, nog wakker of al wakker?
[03:48] <h3h_timo> Pelo, nevermind
[03:48] <IowaDave> can i buy a robot like that?
[03:48] <Nubbie> iowadave: ntfs-3g is very stable from what I hear. back up your data anyways.
[03:48] <h3h_timo> but you think i should just install it from scratch eh?
[03:49] <MLimburg> how do i permanently change the size of the "save" dialog in gnome ..
[03:49] <bruenig> !info eggdrop | IowaDave
[03:49] <Toyd> MLimburg, nog wakker of al wakker?
[03:49] <ubotu> iowadave: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[03:49] <jared_> Can anyone help me with an error I'm having with PHPMyAdmin on Ubuntu?
[03:49] <Nubbie> iowadave: send your money to Nubbie in canada, i'll hook you up.
[03:49] <_gtt_> i think it works a lot better that way... and then you don't have to worry about the ntfs3g
[03:49] <Nubbie> damn you toyd!
[03:49] <wastrel> you don't use ntfs-3g to read/write smb shares
[03:49] <Toyd> Nubbie?
[03:49] <Toyd> wat is wrong?
[03:49] <|Jason8|> firefly2442, if I were to burn that directory to a CD, would I be able to use those packages and reinstall them in a new install?
[03:49] <Nubbie> toyd: :D i was trying to scam some money off him jokingly when you did !info eggdrop :)
[03:49] <bruenig> Nubbie, me
[03:49] <Nubbie> toyd: you foiled me :)
[03:49] <_gtt_> i heard smb->ntfs was flaky anyway, so I'm totally avoiding it by hosting the files on ext3.
[03:50] <Toyd> i didnt do that
[03:50] <firefly2442> |Jason8|, are these Edgy packages for the new Fiesty release?
[03:50] <Toyd> bruenig,  did it
[03:50] <_gtt_> which like any person with common sense would do.
[03:50] <Nubbie> toyd: !!!!!!1 i'm sorry, i'm an idiot.
[03:50] <Stoffer_> how do I change a device driver?
[03:50] <MLimburg> any ideas on where the size of the dialog is stored?
[03:50] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  you can mount your /home folder to a different partition so that if you have to reinstall your os you wonT' loose any data,    second,  you can make a script using  apt-get  to install all the extra progs taht are not part of the default install that you use,   so you can install a new distro from scratch to have all your settings reload from the  /home partition and you only have to reinstall the extra progs and  do what ever bit
[03:50] <Pelo> fo config you needed to to get your hardware to work if any
[03:50] <IowaDave> there might be a misunderstanding. i was responding to gtt about his samba question. not trying to write to ntfs myself. but thanks anyway!
[03:50] <Toyd> MLimburg, nog wakker of al wakker?
[03:50] <Nubbie> a delayed damn you sent out to bruenig
[03:50] <_gtt_> haha
[03:50] <bruenig> Toyd, what are you doing?
[03:50] <|Jason8|> firefly2442, nah, I just want to reinstall edgy.
[03:50] <Nubbie> lol.
[03:50] <_gtt_> right
[03:50] <Toyd> doing???
[03:50] <MLimburg> i think the technical term is being a dick
[03:50] <_gtt_> me and iowadave are on the same wavelength
[03:50] <_gtt_> we know what's up.
[03:50] <bruenig> |Jason8|, reinstall edgy? feisty comes out in hours
[03:50] <firefly2442> |Jason8|, yep, that should work, just copy them into that directory and do a sudo apt-get update
[03:51] <bruenig> Toyd, nog wakker of al wakker? that thing, you keep repeating it
[03:51] <firefly2442> |Jason8|, yeah, might wanna just wait a few hours... ;)
[03:51] <_gtt_> so what do you think about proving the permissions? ls -aFl ?
[03:51] <_gtt_> that's what you're meaning right?
[03:51] <firefly2442> |Jason8|, gotta go, South Park is on ;)
[03:51] <|Jason8|> firefly2442, thanks :)  Later
[03:51] <kitche> Stoffer: this is the freenode network
[03:51] <|Jason8|> bruenig, I would, but I'm on dialup, lol
[03:51] <jared_> Can anyone help me with an error I'm having with PHPMyAdmin on Ubuntu? I can't seem to get past the blowfish secret error.
[03:51] <_ds_> jrib, Nubbie, done (for now). Now all that I need to do is to wait for launchpad-crash-digger to do its job...
[03:52] <IowaDave> gtt: it's beyond my noobie brain at this point. sorry :(
[03:52] <moDumass> mornin all
[03:52] <combatmode> bruenig failed
[03:52] <h3h_timo> Pelo, can you send me a link for help writing scripts?? or is it pretty self explanitory??
[03:52] <_gtt_>  yeah dave, i can totally write to it from the linux box with no problem.
[03:52] <Nubbie> !shipit | |jason8| (get your feisty cds shipped to you!)
[03:52] <ubotu> |jason8| (get your feisty cds shipped to you!): shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[03:52] <bruenig> combatmode, how
[03:52] <_gtt_> ok, gonna hit the forum.
[03:52] <combatmode> bruenig failed to install half way sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/universe$/universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install azureus
[03:52] <IowaDave> gtt: great! what did you change?
[03:52] <bruenig> combatmode, what did it say?
[03:52] <Nubbie> |jason8| ignore that, they are sending feisty cds.
[03:52] <_ds_> Hmm. ubuntu.com says "launch tomorrow" and the corresponding news page says "launch on Thursday". One of them's wrong :-)
[03:52] <IGxMyzt> hi guys
[03:52] <Stoffer> kitche, yeah, but I joined the irc.ubuntu.com channel too, it's the same
[03:52] <Pelo> h3h_timo,   check the forum there was a thread on it
[03:52] <moDumass> in Firefox in ubuntu is browser.cache.memory.capacity known as browser.cache.disk.capacity?
[03:53] <_gtt_> nothing... and i still can't write to it from the windows machines...
[03:53] <IGxMyzt> how do you setup a second monitor on a different video card?
[03:53] <_gtt_> :(
[03:53] <|Jason8|> Nubbie, okay, I'll check it out :)
[03:53] <bruenig> _ds_, depends where you are, it is wednesday here
[03:53] <_gtt_> what a bummer.
[03:53] <Stoffer> kitche, assumed different servers would have separate channels
[03:53] <jared_> anyone?
[03:53] <IowaDave> gtt: oh, the lunux share is read-only from the windows side?
[03:53] <_ds_> bruenig, Thursday here. That was my point... ;-)
[03:53] <kitche> Stoffer: well it's the same network
[03:53] <Stoffer> kitche, yeah, I realize that now :P
[03:53] <absum> adultswim, thanks for the tip but i dont think it worked... i did something that made it work but i wouldnt be able to repeat it.
[03:54] <combatmode> bruenig wait
[03:54] <IGxMyzt> how do you setup a second monitor?
[03:54] <Puppy_> I'm transferring 4 gigs of data from my ubuntu hd to my windows hd. Both are SATA, but the transfer is going slower than Paris Hilton doing a Suduku puzzle. I've transferred 20 Gig of data faster than this before (it was a IDE to SATA)... Any ideas?
[03:54] <h3h_timo> Pelo, should i search for it or is it recent?
[03:54] <Nubbie> lol @ puppy_
[03:54] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  not realy recent
[03:54] <whitebunny> Puppy_: LOL Paris
[03:54] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  hold on a minute
[03:54] <bettsp> Puppy_: What's your filesystem?
[03:54] <_gtt_> yes... files hosted on the linux box using samba can't be written to (read's fine) from across windows shares.
[03:55] <bettsp> On the target
[03:55] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16338/
[03:55] <_gtt_> puppy - DMA ?
[03:55] <Nubbie> _gtt_: they are if you give correct permissions to the folder.
[03:55] <Puppy_> I'm using NTFS I think.
[03:55] <jason_> when is the new ubuntu comeing out
[03:56] <Nubbie> !dma | puppy_
[03:56] <bettsp> Puppy_: ntfs-3g is really slow because it's in userspace
[03:56] <ubotu> puppy_: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[03:56] <_gtt_> nubbie - what do i need to make for the permissions ?
[03:56] <IowaDave> gtt: first thing i'd try is modifying the share settings using System > Administration > Shared Folders
[03:56] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16338/
[03:56] <Nubbie> _gtt_: it has to be writable by others.
[03:56] <IGxMyzt> anyone? Second monitor?
[03:56] <wastrel> _gtt_:  try adding read only = no  in the [global]  section of smb.conf
[03:56] <BHSPitMonkey> hey all.
[03:56] <wastrel> _gtt_:  or in the section for that share, either way :]
[03:56] <Puppy_> thanks Nubbie and bettsp!
[03:56] <BHSPitMonkey> is there an apt command that will spit out a full list of my installed packages?
[03:56] <Hairulfr> IGxMyzt: Dual monitors? Yewah, it's real easy
[03:56] <Nubbie> np puppy_
[03:56] <_gtt_> that was what was obvious to me, and i did it and no chamnge
[03:56] <IGxMyzt> Hai: On seperate vid cards?
[03:56] <bruenig> combatmode, your third party repos are giving you some problems
[03:56] <bettsp> puppy_: It's a hack, but boot into Windows, then start VMware and load Ubuntu, then use Samba
[03:56] <kitche> BHSPitMonkey: dpkg -L I believe
[03:56] <Hairulfr> IGxMyzt: No, on a dual dvi vid. card
[03:57] <bettsp> Much faster
[03:57] <IowaDave> gtt: Nubbie is right, and needs set for parent folders as well?
[03:57] <_gtt_> wastrel - didn't try it in global, but i have read only = no and writable = yes (why are there two?)
[03:57] <h3h_timo> Pelo, can you resend that?
[03:57] <combatmode> how i fix that
[03:57] <MLimburg> so .. nobody knows if/where to alter the default dimensions of the gnome save dialog
[03:57] <lloy0076> Does the Linux "lo" interface attached to the loopback address respond to ALL loopback addresses and not just the one shown by ifconfig lo? I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> despite that fact that my lo says it's <IP_ADDRESS>...
[03:57] <IGxMyzt> Hairulfr, not possible on 2?
[03:57] <combatmode> its ok as log i can  run wine
[03:57] <bettsp> lloy0076: lo responds to 127.*
[03:57] <combatmode> thx
[03:57] <wastrel> _gtt_:  they're synonyms.  afaik you only need one or the other
[03:57] <bruenig> combatmode, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:57] <combatmode> Nubbie
[03:57] <Hairulfr> IGxMyzt: I have no idea, but it probably bothersome
[03:57] <BHSPitMonkey> kitche, that lists the files owned by a packages :/
[03:57] <_gtt_> i know, but when one didn't work i tried both.
[03:57] <h3h_timo> Pelo, thanks alot
[03:57] <Toyd> what is the kubuntu webbrowser called?
[03:57] <_gtt_> lemme try the global section
[03:58] <IGxMyzt> Hairulfr, know if there's a way with an ATI Radeon 9250 to get full 3D?
[03:58] <combatmode> bruenig what mean
[03:58] <lalala> konqeuror
[03:58] <bruenig> Toyd, konqueror
[03:58] <Toyd> thanks
[03:58] <combatmode> bruenig which one
[03:58] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  that is just a copy of mine,   you can add your own packages, modified them , etc,  play around with the wget and stuff
[03:58] <BHSPitMonkey> --get-selections works... cool.
[03:58] <Toyd> can i install it on unbuntu?
[03:58] <bruenig> combatmode, /etc/apt/sources.list pastebin the whole thing
[03:58] <_gtt_> and look at the permissions
[03:58] <lalala> Toyd: yes
[03:58] <h3h_timo> okay
[03:58] <Toyd> ubuntu*
[03:58] <lloy0076> bettsp: Oh. I thought it only responded to just te single address.
[03:58] <h3h_timo> Pelo, thanks alot, so if i wanna do my video card drivers and stuff i can just do it in there
[03:58] <h3h_timo> just like i would type in the terminal?
[03:58] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  pretty much  anything you did command line  when setting up you can probably make a script for it or add it to that one
[03:58] <Toyd> sudo apt-get install konqueror <-- like that
[03:58] <Stoffer> I want to change the driver for my wireless card to madwifi.  Can someone tell me how to do this?
[03:59] <combatmode> that was only thing  that i have
[03:59] <lalala> Toyd: sure, along with maybe 200mb of dependencies
[03:59] <Nubbie> toyd: it's already installed if you're using KDE.
[03:59] <Toyd> shit
[03:59] <bruenig> combatmode, do "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and pastebin it
[03:59] <Toyd> i am not using kde
[03:59] <Toyd> gnome
[03:59] <Nubbie> toyd: then why install konqueror?
[03:59] <Puppy_> bettsp: ok thanks!
[03:59] <Nubbie> toyd: KDE apps in gnome = ugliness.
[03:59] <Toyd> i want to putty into konqueror in vista but its not installed in gnome
[03:59] <lalala> Toyd: khtml is c00l, we should get used to it before firefox officially dump us
[03:59] <bruenig> Nubbie, kde apps in gnome are fine
[04:00] <Toyd> i am using them in vista through xming and putty
[04:00] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  more or less,  check the man pages of the commands you use for special swithes like default to yes answer and stuff but unless you start and interactive thing you can do it in a script
[04:00] <Nubbie> bruenig: yes, but they look ugly <--- as in not like gnome apps.
[04:00] <moDumass> grr, how do i set text colour that i place and text with my name in it so that its bright and red or something, because i cant find jack
[04:00] <Hairulfr> Oh, Well, IGxMyth needs Xinerama
[04:00] <bruenig> Nubbie, they look the same as they do in kde
[04:00] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16339/
[04:00] <IowaDave> gtt: i believe that your smb.conf file needs to grant write access to the share, and the folder needs write permission. both.
[04:00] <Nubbie> bruenig: which is my point ;)
[04:00] <h3h_timo> Pelo, if you just add -y to it doesnt that make it say yes?
[04:00] <Toyd> i dont mind 200 mb
[04:00] <bruenig> Nubbie, so then you mean to say kde looks bad
[04:00] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  depends on the command
[04:00] <Nubbie> toyd: just install a ssh server
[04:01] <Toyd> it'll be downloaded on my system in less than 10 seconds
[04:01] <Toyd> i already did Nubbie
[04:01] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16339/
[04:01] <Toyd> its running in vmware
[04:01] <BHSPitMonkey> bruenig, that's my stance ;)
[04:01] <cactusbin> what time and time zone is 7.04 being released?
[04:01] <Nubbie> bruenig: yeah i would've said that if he said he was installing KDE, but he isn't :)
[04:01] <bruenig> combatmode, did you edit that yourself? you have mixed dapper and breezy?
[04:01] <Toyd> i cant putty in otherwise
[04:01] <Toyd> heh
[04:01] <Toyd> MLimburg, nog wakker of al wakker?
[04:01] <lalala> cactusbin: top secret (i speculate)
[04:01] <Nubbie> cactusbin: probably between 12AM and 11:59PM in south african time.
[04:01] <jason_> i just requested to get the 7.04
[04:01] <IowaDave> gtt: i'm assuming you know how to see the permissions using ls -al?
[04:01] <bruenig> well that is strictly an opinion whereas I thought you were talking about the inability to integrate
[04:01] <cactusbin> should i stay up 'till midnight-1 est time?
[04:02] <MLimburg> Toyd, wtf ..
[04:02] <combatmode> bruenig i just copy what i see in sources.list
[04:02] <lalala> cactusbin: I am doing it!
[04:02] <_gtt_> yeah.... so it should be what 667?
[04:02] <Toyd> :P
[04:02] <Nubbie> bruenig: yeah its an opinion lol.
[04:02] <bruenig> combatmode, what are you using?
[04:02] <Toyd> MLimburg,
[04:02] <Toyd> :P
[04:02] <Nubbie> lalala: greetings.
[04:02] <h3h_timo> Pelo, aight thanks for the help
[04:02] <Pelo> np
[04:02] <lalala> Nubbie: greetings!
[04:02] <bruenig> combatmode, breezy or dapper?
[04:02] <_gtt_> oops
[04:02] <MLimburg> where's that damn ignore function when I need it ..
[04:02] <locolbd> hello will feisty fawn be available as soon as midnight?
[04:02] <_gtt_> accidentally powered it down instead of rebooting
[04:02] <_gtt_> brb
[04:03] <lalala> locolbd: this is a good question, I want to know too
[04:03] <MLimburg> does anyone know where the default dimensions are stored for gnome dialogs?
[04:03] <cactusbin> lalala: your downloading the stable?
[04:03] <cactusbin> lalala: where?
[04:03] <_gtt_> (that reload command's success has been "questionable" at best.")
[04:03] <bruenig> locolbd, not necessarily, I do however have a script checking every minute, so I will try to notify the channel as soon as it alerts me
[04:03] <lalala> cactusbin: will be doing it
[04:03] <combatmode> bruenig when i go system about ubuntu is say dapper drake
[04:03] <cactusbin> lalala:oh
[04:03] <lalala> cactusbin: i dont know, i wish I know
[04:03] <IowaDave> gtt:667 would work, think all 6's would, too. it's the last one, _ _ 6, that matters, because that's the "world" permission setting
[04:04] <jason_> if i already got ubuntu on my computer will it automatic update to the 7.04
[04:04] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16342/
[04:04] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16342/
[04:04] <bruenig> combatmode, wow, your system has to really messed up. do "sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' -e '/cdrom/d' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update"
[04:04] <Toyd> MLimburg, nog wakker of al wakker?
[04:04] <lalala> permission 667? that sounds very odd
[04:04] <lloy0076> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16341/ - my source is <IP_ADDRESS> but I don't know WHY...
[04:04] <spikeb> jason_, it will ask you if you want to upgrade
[04:04] <wastrel> 667 is odd
[04:04] <lloy0076> Anyone got any clues?
[04:04] <Pelo> jason_,  no it won't    distributions donT' upgrade automatilcay
[04:04] <IowaDave> gtt: for folders, needs to be 7 in order to be able to open the folder and see inside.
[04:04] <Toyd> MLimburg,  i thought you were dutch
[04:04] <Toyd> i am sorry
[04:05] <MLimburg> Australian ...
[04:05] <lalala> what node is it for?
[04:05] <jason_> so when does the update come out
[04:05] <lalala> a file?
[04:05] <Toyd> oh your nick is dutch
[04:05] <MLimburg> Yes, my dad is dutch .. anyway ..
[04:05] <lalala> my nick is teletubbies
[04:05] <Toyd> i just asked : nog wakker=still awake of=or al wakker= awake already
[04:05] <_gtt_> testing the global setting now...
[04:05] <combatmode> failed
[04:05] <IowaDave> gtt: 7 enables the "execute" bit, which, for folders, is the "browse" permission.
[04:06] <Toyd> i thought you were in Holland its 4:05 am here
[04:06] <_gtt_> thanks :)
[04:06] <combatmode> bruenig failed
[04:06] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16343/
[04:06] <_gtt_> nope, didn't work on global.. so trying permissions now
[04:06] <wastrel> lloy0076:  you're asking why source is localhost?
[04:06] <wastrel> when you're pinging from localhost to localhost
[04:06] <IowaDave> gtt: you know how to chmod, of course?
[04:06] <admini1> #bookz
[04:06] <locolbd> oh wait
[04:07] <bruenig> IowaDave, they don't necessarily have to be 7, the just need to be executable, so they could be 5 3 or even 1
[04:07] <locolbd> so once you have ubuntu 7.04 beta it updates to the stable automatically
[04:07] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16343/
[04:07] <wastrel> locolbd:  you have manually use the update software
[04:07] <jo1> is there a way i can reboot to my window xp again ?
[04:08] <cafuego> locolbd: Yeah, same for in you have 6.10 or 6.04
[04:08] <combatmode> should i reinstall again
[04:08] <bruenig> combatmode, paste your new sources.list, just the sources.list
[04:08] <IowaDave> bruenig: right. exactly. for browsing purposes. what about read/write for contents? wouldn't folders need to be 7?
[04:08] <locolbd> ok
[04:08] <smo> hi all i have a big problem with cdr sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -scanbus give nothing just block
[04:08] <combatmode> bruenig code rite: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:08] <bruenig> 5 works for browsing
[04:08] <combatmode> wait
[04:08] <_gtt_> thank ya'll!
[04:08] <bruenig> combatmode, good enough
[04:08] <_gtt_> permissions
[04:08] <smo> i have some strnage message about dbus too
[04:08] <locolbd> !locolbd
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locolbd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <_gtt_> i did chmod 777 foldername
[04:08] <_gtt_> and it worked
[04:09] <IowaDave> gtt: very good. glad to hear it.
[04:09] <smo>  Unable to get session bus: Did not receive a reply
[04:09] <lalala> _gtt_: why not just give it a sticky bit?
[04:09] <h3h_timo> Pelo, is there a way to unmount the partition i am on now and create a smaller one, remount the big one and small ones, and then put my home directory on the small one??
[04:09] <_gtt_> sticky bit?
[04:09] <smo> sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -scanbus report dvd fine...
[04:09] <lalala> like 1777
[04:09] <bruenig> smo, why sudo?
[04:09] <Wicks> is feisty final up yet?
[04:09] <lalala> ro something like that
[04:09] <_gtt_> what's that?
[04:09] <lalala> or
[04:09] <smo> or not same thing
[04:09] <Pelo> h3h_timo,  boot the live cd and use gparted
[04:09] <lalala> like a user specific 777
[04:10] <Jordan_U_> h3h_timo, You shouldn't repartition a drive with any of it's partitions mounted
[04:10] <smo> ~$ cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -scanbus
[04:10] <smo> and nothing happen...
[04:10] <lalala> man chmod for detail
[04:10] <bruenig> smo, are you trying to do a dvd?
[04:10] <smo> no a cd
[04:10] <smo> won t burn
[04:10] <h3h_timo> Jordan_U, I cant unmount this one while im on it??
[04:10] <combatmode> bruenig sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <bruenig> smo, well where is the file?
[04:10] <IowaDave> gtt: there is probably a wiki for sticky ;)
[04:10] <wastrel> _gtt_:  when the "sticky bit" is set for a directory, only the owner of the file can delete it
[04:10] <_gtt_> how'd that benefit me?
[04:10] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16345/
[04:10] <_gtt_> ah
[04:10] <wastrel> _gtt_:  even if it's world-writable
[04:10] <h3h_timo> cant i just use the swap and ram to run my session?
[04:10] <_gtt_> hrmm
[04:10] <smo> were on edgy and tried manyyy thing so decided to try fesity dbus and some packages cdrecord
[04:10] <smo> but still same thing
[04:10] <dc_> combatmode: sorry i had to run, did you get it all working?
[04:10] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16345/
[04:10] <smo> boring me
[04:10] <_gtt_> i think i'll be the owner all the time, and i'll want to be able to delete when i need.
[04:10] <_gtt_> it's just me and my wife.
[04:10] <bruenig> combatmode, you must not have run that command I gave you
[04:10] <combatmode> its ok
[04:11] <Jordan_U_> h3h_timo, Not easily, and if your swap is on the same drive as the partition you want to resize then no
[04:11] <_gtt_> and she's using the vm machines.
[04:11] <wastrel> _gtt_:  some people like to set the sticky bit for samba public shares.  i personally don't see much difference between a 0 lenghth file and one that's gone completely
[04:11] <wastrel> but "meh"
[04:11] <combatmode> oo. i ran it
[04:11] <bruenig> combatmode, "sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' -e '/cdrom/d' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update"
[04:11] <combatmode> what ran what i was told
[04:11] <_gtt_> me either
[04:11] <IowaDave> gtt: wastrel makes a good point. protect yourself with sticky bit when you are giving the whole world write permission
[04:11] <Jordan_U_> h3h_timo, Why not use a LiveCD to do the repartitioning?
[04:11] <h3h_timo> Jordan_U, my swap isnt on the same partition
[04:11] <calliope_> so any word on the current status of 7.04 ? is there a RC at the moment or a Full Release at the moment
[04:11] <lalala> IowaDave: that was me!
[04:11] <bruenig> combatmode, that command should replace all of those breezy's with dapper's and it appeared to not have, so either the command is failed, or you didn't run it. I am pretty sure the command is good
[04:12] <Jordan_U_> h3h_timo, But is it on the same *drive*?
[04:12] <IowaDave> lalala: i'm eating humble pie here. sorry
[04:12] <h3h_timo> Jordan_U, takes too muc time and is too easy
[04:12] <h3h_timo> yes
[04:12] <_gtt_> ok... might consider that if i have other users join the work group but for now i'll leave it as is.. thanks for the info on it though
[04:12] <bruenig> combatmode, oh my fault
[04:12] <bruenig> combatmode, I forgot the -i
[04:12] <bruenig> combatmode, "sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' -e '/cdrom/d' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update"
[04:12] <combatmode> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16346/
[04:12] <nn-laptop> who wants a rssh server login
[04:12] <_gtt_> i'm so friggin' happy about being able to write to the darn folder again
[04:12] <Jordan_U_> h3h_timo, So you are trying to do this as a challenge ?
[04:12] <_gtt_> wonder how it got read only set.
[04:12] <whitebunny> calliope_: RC is out
[04:12] <_gtt_> that's really bizarre./
[04:12] <bruenig> combatmode, run that one I just did above, it should set it straight, that is my fault
[04:13] <combatmode> wait
[04:13] <combatmode> let me try again
[04:13] <h3h_timo> Jordan_U, i guess, i just wanna see how to do it so i knwo how
[04:13] <whitebunny> calliope_: but Final still aint!
[04:13] <_gtt_> doesn't matter./.. but it'd be nice to know to prevernt/expect it if i had to do it again
[04:13] <artooro> Hello folks, I have a question regarding getting the latest alsa 1.0.14rc3 as I need it for line input support. What might be the easiest way to get it?
[04:13] <smo> any idear on my cdrw problem?
[04:13] <Jordan_U_> h3h_timo, Do you mind having to restart?
[04:13] <calliope_> whitebunny: when did it come out ? today? what hour? ive herd conflicting rumors
[04:13] <wastrel> _gtt_:  your pain is my gain, i'm trying to learn samba... :]  now i won't have your problem when i go to set things up
[04:13] <_gtt_> i guess i should just remember to check the perms
[04:13] <somafm> anyone know the time and timezone feisty fawn is officially out?
[04:13] <beattech> Help
[04:13] <smo>  hdc: drive not ready for command          dmesg
[04:13] <beattech> i cant get my FRACKING SOUND to work
[04:13] <h3h_timo> Jordan_U, yes, horribly, plus it takes years to boot up into the live cd
[04:13] <combatmode> It works
[04:13] <Jordan_U_> calliope_, He is talking about the release candidate, not the Final
[04:14] <bruenig> somafm, it doesn't come out at a specific hour necessarily, they use the utc to define the day, so it is past mindnight utc
[04:14] <smo>  hdc: status timeout: status=0x88 { Busy }
[04:14] <smo> [17179785.456000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[04:14] <smo> ..........
[04:14] <wj32> why isnt feisty released yet?
[04:14] <wj32> its april19
[04:14] <bruenig> midnight*
[04:14] <Airforce5555> My openoffice if frozen
[04:14] <_gtt_> that's fine.. ya'll got me through it in record time which is exactly what i was needing
[04:14] <somafm> ok thanks
[04:14] <Airforce5555> whats the command to kill it
[04:14] <Airforce5555> ?
[04:14] <combatmode> bruenig it works . but one problem
[04:14] <_gtt_> wish i could pass ya a virtual beer.
[04:14] <IowaDave> gtt: way to go!
[04:14] <Airforce5555> anybody know?
[04:14] <Tarkus> anyone know how to get widescreen resolution in ubuntu? (1680x1050)?
[04:14] <Lord_Vader> ok I'm getting tired of waiting now
[04:14] <Jordan_U_> wj32, Patience young grasshopper
[04:14] <bruenig> Airforce5555, do ps -A | grep open
[04:14] <Lord_Vader> Airforce5555, killall processname
[04:15] <beattech> can anyone help me get my sound working?
[04:15] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, Install the correct drivers for your card
[04:15] <calliope_> Jordan_U so I heard, and would like to verify if there was some useful 7.04 update or problem fix in the last 24 hours
[04:15] <combatmode> bruenig error in the end
[04:15] <wj32> Jordan_U_: I can't stand not having Feisty!!! ahhh!!!
[04:15] <Airforce5555> whats the nme for openoffice?
[04:15] <wastrel> Airforce5555:  try xkill from terminal window then click the ooffice window
[04:15] <combatmode> bruening http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16347/
[04:15] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: i did apt-get nvidia-glx or whatever, and it said it installed them..
[04:15] <iSeriesTech> Feisty is almost here
[04:15] <nn-laptop> beattech, Get a newer kernal
[04:15] <Jordan_U_> wj32, Then install the Release Candidate
[04:15] <dhtechs> what time is feisty released?
[04:15] <iSeriesTech> 00:01 GMT
[04:15] <wj32> Jordan_U_: ok, i meant final feisty
[04:15] <nn-laptop> beattech, or mod probe it
[04:16] <_gtt_> since that was my download folder that was read only, i need to go see what's available for download :)
[04:16] <Airforce5555> k it worked
[04:16] <bruenig> combatmode, that is not even in your sources.list, try "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* && sudo apt-get update"
[04:16] <beattech> nn-laptop, how do i get a newer kernal? Completly new to linux and ubuntu
[04:16] <wj32> here its already 12:16pm!
[04:16] <iSeriesTech> if you are putting on Nvidia Driver just use ENVY
[04:16] <beattech> ya
[04:16] <beattech> envy works
[04:16] <beattech> i used it
[04:16] <iSeriesTech> ENVY is cool
[04:16] <blanky> is ubuntu out yet
[04:16] <iSeriesTech> nope
[04:16] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, You need to enable them also, run this command and choose "nvidia" ( not "nv" ) when it asks what driver to use: sudo dpkkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[04:16] <nn-laptop> beattech, apt-cache search kernal image
[04:16] <blanky> nvm guess not :(
[04:16] <IowaDave> gtt, lalala, and all: i gotta go feed the chickens. g'nite!
[04:16] <blanky> iSeriesTech: will it be delayed after all?
[04:16] <dhtechs> is it the RC or Final?
[04:16] <_gtt_> g'night.. thanks again
[04:16] <iSeriesTech> i don't think so
[04:17] <iSeriesTech> RSYNC was replicating it out today to mirrors
[04:17] <blanky> iSeriesTech: okay thanks
[04:17] <iSeriesTech> FINAL!!!!!
[04:17] <iSeriesTech> that is what I was reading
[04:17] <dhtechs> tnx
[04:17] <iSeriesTech> NP
[04:17] <bruenig> rc is probably going to be the same as final
[04:17] <nn-laptop> g2g bye
[04:17] <dhtechs> upgrading now
[04:17] <sfalordkratos> Hello
[04:17] <combatmode> bruening http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16348/
[04:17] <wj32> the guy who posted that rsync trick said that you shouldnt do it. it will overload the servers.
[04:17] <beattech> nn, what does that mean?
[04:18] <sfalordkratos> I have a few questions regarding partitions.
[04:18] <iSeriesTech> pretty close with lots of fixes. You should have read the change logs over the past week
[04:18] <iSeriesTech> it's been busy
[04:18] <spikeb> busy busy busy
[04:18] <iSeriesTech> RSYNC to MIRRORs not to your PC
[04:18] <bruenig> combatmode, did that command I gave you above work?
[04:18] <iSeriesTech> i saw that
[04:18] <combatmode> YEs
[04:18] <combatmode> bruening it said done
[04:18] <bruenig> combatmode, it didn't give you that wine.budgetblahblah error?
[04:18] <combatmode> bruening work  perfect
[04:18] <combatmode> wait
[04:19] <Anarch> `modprobe iptables` => not found.  This Kubuntu was built by my not-very-technical boss, and I haven't put it on the net yet.
[04:19] <Anarch> I'm not sure it was fully patched.
[04:19] <Anarch> Security suggestions for a new Kubuntu with no iptables?
[04:19] <artooro> where can I get very recent alsa releases? Or do I have to compile them myself?
[04:19] <beattech> Can anyone spend a few minutes helping a linux newb figure out how to get sound?
[04:19] <sfalordkratos> When making the "swap" partition, should I change the file system to "linux-swap"?
[04:19] <iSeriesTech> that was odd
[04:20] <Jordan_U_> Anarch, As long as you have no daemons listening to anything you should be fine
[04:20] <iSeriesTech> it just logged me out of Ubuntu
[04:20] <combatmode> bruening sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* && sudo apt-get update
[04:20] <bruenig> combatmode, yes
[04:20] <combatmode> bruening this command
[04:20] <beattech> please... I'm getting desperate now.. been a week
[04:20] <Jordan_U_> beattech, Have you tried to see if it is just muted using alsamixer?
[04:20] <combatmode> work before
[04:20] <combatmode> no error
[04:21] <bruenig> combatmode, ok do sudo apt-get install wine
[04:21] <combatmode> but rite now i can't do it any more
[04:21] <bruenig> combatmode, or were you getting azureus?
[04:21] <bruenig> I forgot
[04:21] <beattech> No, its like it detects it in device manager, but it doesnt work or show up in sound properties
[04:21] <combatmode> both
[04:21] <RenatoSilva> is this channel for support? what about ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:21] <bruenig> combatmode, yeah then do it for both
[04:21] <spikeb> offtopic is for whatever, and this is for support.
[04:21] <vdavidoff> i'm trying to install ubuntu server 6.10 with preseeding and for the life of me i can't get expert_recipes working.  i see lots of reports of this being broken but no real answers.  is this a know issue?  it seems like depending on how i order the partitions, sometimes the installer decides i'm doing a guided partition, and other times it just doesn't create them all, and other times it fails. tia.
[04:21] <Jordan_U_> beasty, What do you see when you run the command alsamixer?
[04:21] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: it didnt work.
[04:21] <|Jason8|> What program do I use to rip CD's and what would be the best format to rip them into?
[04:21] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, In what way didin't it work?
[04:21] <bruenig> |Jason8|, flac
[04:21] <RenatoSilva> really this is for support?
[04:22] <wastrel> it really is
[04:22] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: it returned this..
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> well
[04:22] <Tarkus> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[04:22] <Tarkus>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070418222107
[04:22] <sfalordkratos> Can someone please help me? I have yet to install Ubuntu. I have questions regarding partitions.
[04:22] <|Jason8|> bruenig, lol, I meant lossy formats.
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> does anybody uses modem here?
[04:22] <combatmode> It said wine is already the newest verision
[04:22] <Pelo> sfalordkratos,  just ask it
[04:22] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, That is normal
[04:22] <sfalordkratos> Ok.
[04:22] <beattech> sfal, i might be able to help
[04:22] <|Jason8|> compatable with MP3 players 'n stuff.
[04:22] <sfalordkratos> When making the "Swap" partition, should I change it to "linux-swap" file system?
[04:22] <bruenig> |Jason8|, all my stuff is in ogg, but it depends on what you are going to do with it, if you just intend it to sit on the pc, then ogg is fine, if you want it to be portable to mp3 players, then mp3 obviously
[04:23] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: is it? sorry im really new to linux. first day using it :D
[04:23] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, Now just restart X ( the GUI ) by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:23] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: k
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> sfalordkratos: yeah
[04:23] <sfalordkratos> Should I leave it as a Primary Partition?
[04:23] <beattech> Anyone willing to Private IM support with me... With the sound issue... I'd really appriciate it.
[04:23] <bruenig> combatmode, ok so you already have wine
[04:23] <combatmode> bruening umm is the package for is azureus is 69.5 mb
[04:23] <sigger_> so can anyone tell me why lately when I reboot my laptop I have to ifconfig eth1 up then run dhclient.
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> sfalordkratos: I think it's not necessary
[04:23] <Pelo> sfalordkratos,  it will be changed by ubuntu when you install,  just make an extended partition for it and the linux partition will be nested in there
[04:24] <bruenig> combatmode, you probably are having to install java too
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> sfalordkratos: leave it logical
[04:24] <marvinalone> isn't 704 supposed to be out right around now?
[04:24] <sigger_> i don't recall that I used to have to do that.
[04:24] <wastrel> sigger_:  do you have  auto eth1  in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:24] <bruenig> marvinalone, not necessarily
[04:24] <sfalordkratos> It doesn't let me chose Logical.
[04:24] <vdavidoff> anyone know about issues with preseeding expert_recipes with 6.10?
[04:24] <kneeki> Anyone know how I can browse my Windows shared folders?
[04:24] <marvinalone> bruenig: when is the time?
[04:24] <stian2> marvinalone: we don't know
[04:25] <s0nix> Bonsoir tlm, j'aimerais savoir....... install vous toujours les logiciels (COMPILER MANUELLEMENT) en root ou vous les install dans votre home ?
[04:25] <sigger_> wastrel, nope, eth0 and eth2 (which doesn't exist).  will fix.  thanks :)
[04:25] <iSeriesTech> it's 3 AM GMT right now
[04:25] <RenatoSilva> sfalordkratos: maybe because you have to create an extended partition?
[04:25] <bruenig> marvinalone, sometime thursday, my script has yet to go off, when it does I will be happy to notify
[04:25] <iSeriesTech> not sure
[04:25] <beattech> Help, cant get my SIS ac'97 sound card to work... will anyone help me?!
[04:25] <Rex> hey there... I had to install KDE because my gnome was hooped. Now I tried to remove it completely. All kubuntu packages are removed with apt-get, however the splash screen at bootup is the kubuntu one. Also, I have noticed that gnome is really slow now. It never was before. I am using Fiesty. Any thought?
[04:25] <marvinalone> bruenig: it's already thursday in london
[04:25] <jo1> is there a way i can go back to my normal windows
[04:25] <sfalordkratos> Ok. What size do I create this Extended partition?
[04:25] <marvinalone> bruenig: so i thought ...
[04:25] <bruenig> marvinalone, is it friday yet? if not then calm down
[04:25] <iSeriesTech> the clock has changed every night @ 8 or 9 PM MST and it's 8 PM MST now
[04:25] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: alright. done. is there anything else? cause its still not letting me choose widescreen res
[04:25] <Jordan_U_> kneeki, Go to Places -> Network -> Windows network
[04:25] <RenatoSilva> begin your messages with "RenatoSilva: "  to talk to me
[04:25] <iSeriesTech> jol yes you can
[04:26] <Pelo> s0nix,   tu les compile en root et ils vont s'installer ou ils ont besoin
[04:26] <jo1> how ?
[04:26] <jo1> if u be kind to tell me
[04:26] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, Did you see an Nvidia Logo when you restarted X?
[04:26] <kneeki> Jordan_U_: Did that, but it says I cannot browse the folders
[04:26] <jo1> ^_^
[04:26] <effie_jayx> Pelo,  #ubuntu-fr
[04:26] <beattech> Renatosilva: can u help me with my sound card?
[04:26] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: no
[04:26] <RenatoSilva> sfalordkratos:  begin your messages with "RenatoSilva: "  to talk to me
[04:26] <iSeriesTech> jol private window
[04:26] <LordLimecat> so, im a little curious,....what happens in here tomorrow?
[04:26] <iSeriesTech> jol: I started a private window
[04:26] <RenatoSilva> beattech: ask everybody, it's better
[04:26] <LordLimecat> does #ubuntu+1 stage a coup?
[04:27] <bruenig> LordLimecat, breezy becomes unsupported, dapper edgy and feisty come here for help
[04:27] <spikeb> yes
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> sfalordkratos: ?
[04:27] <wastrel> LordLimecat:  they'll forward #ubuntu+1 here
[04:27] <spikeb> LordLimecat, there's a glorious revolution.
[04:27] <LordLimecat> i like my way better
[04:27] <wastrel> also a million people will be here talking about how their feisty download is going
[04:27] <LordLimecat> and we all get bumped to #ubuntu-1
[04:27] <LordLimecat> :D
[04:27] <spikeb> haha
[04:27] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, Ok, can you pastebin the your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the output ( if any ) of this command: sudo modprobe nvidia-glx
[04:27] <bruenig> #ubuntu+1 gets put back up in a month or so when gusty gets going
[04:27] <LordLimecat> gusty?
[04:27] <LordLimecat> thought it was grumpy
[04:27] <wastrel> gusty gopher
[04:27] <LordLimecat> lol
[04:27] <s0nix> Pelo:  ok , et tu desintalle comment?
[04:27] <bruenig> gutsy ghibbon right
[04:28] <moDumass> hey all, i have lost mouse pointer happyness, how do i open the config file to remove the current mouse pointer i just added?
[04:28] <Jordan_U_> !paste | Tarkus in case you don't know
[04:28] <ubotu> Tarkus in case you don't know: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:28] <bruenig> gibbon*
[04:28] <Hairulfr> Gutsy Gibbon?
[04:28] <bruenig> gutsy*
[04:28] <LordLimecat> ubuntu names make me chuckle
[04:28] <beattech> How can I get my SIS ac'97 integrated sound card to work in volume thing, it shows up in lsmod and device manager... but it says The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[04:28] <beattech> You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu.
[04:28] <beattech> and
[04:28] <beattech> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[04:28] <Pelo> s0nix,   rejoin moi dans  #ubuntu-fr
[04:28] <LordLimecat> whatever happened to grumpy groundhog?
[04:28] <LordLimecat> (also, whats an eft)
[04:28] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: how do i see the xorg.conf and the output?
[04:29] <bruenig> grumpy groundhog was already released, it was some developer release or something
[04:29] <wastrel> eft -> immature newt
[04:29] <mischko> How do you restart a service on Ubuntu? i.e. apache web server after you've changed the config.
[04:29] <LordLimecat> ah
[04:29] <wastrel> mischko:  /etc/init.d/apache restart  (or apache2, whichever)
[04:29] <Hairulfr> Overripe Oaf
[04:29] <bruenig> I want to see what  they do wtih x
[04:29] <moDumass> or what is the keyboard shortcut to open console
[04:29] <bruenig> with*
[04:29] <bruenig> moDumass, have to set it in system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[04:29] <beattech> How can I get my SIS ac'97 integrated sound card to work in volume thing, it shows up in lsmod and device manager... but it says The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[04:29] <combatmode> If i install ubuntu cd v 5.10... What are the code or comand to update to lastest  version  and install wine
[04:29] <LordLimecat> wastrel, isnt there a shortcut for that?
[04:29] <wastrel> moDumass:  there's not one by default . alt-f2  pops up a "run" dialog however
[04:29] <bruenig> !upgrade | combatmode
[04:30] <ubotu> combatmode: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:30] <combatmode> Or it have to be separted commands
[04:30] <moDumass> Bruenig, i have no mouse
[04:30] <mischko> wastrel, thanks.  I was thinking it had a different init method.
[04:30] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, in a terminal run: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then sudo modprobe nvidia-glx
[04:30] <bruenig> combatmode, you will have to upgrade, three times
[04:30] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know where I can find the original vi for download?
[04:30] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: i entered that command and it returned: FATAL: Module nvidia_glx not found.
[04:30] <Doughy> Anyone know if Ubuntu 7.04 installs directly using an Intel 965 motherboard and IDE CDROM?
[04:30] <spikeb> Doughy, should.
[04:30] <LordLimecat> doughy, are those the mobos with no pata?
[04:30] <spikeb> intel stuff should be well supported
[04:30] <wastrel> yurimxpxman:  it's closed source,  you can set vim to compatible mode, or try nvi maybe
[04:30] <Doughy> I know that 6.10 did not work with intel 965
[04:31] <yurimxpxman> wastrel: I use vim, but I'd like to find the original vi just so I can see it :-)
[04:31] <LordLimecat> oh....i remember >_< i had a 965
[04:31] <Doughy> lordlimecat, I think they have only 1 IDE port
[04:31] <MTecknology> does anybody in here use BitlBee?
[04:31] <beattech> How can I get my SIS ac'97 integrated sound card to work in volume thing, it shows up in lsmod and device manager... but it says The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. and No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. Please... I dont know what to do here...
[04:31] <LordLimecat> doughy--if it has 1, then its thru an addon board
[04:31] <LordLimecat> i have one, its thru jmicron controller
[04:31] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, I may have the name wrong ( I don't use nvidia ) try just nvidia without the -glx
[04:31] <Doughy> so, spikeb, everything intel is pretty much now supported?
[04:32] <combatmode> bruenig what version i'm now?
[04:32] <spikeb> Doughy, it should be, but i dont know of any issues in particular, so i could be off
[04:32] <Doughy> There was an issue with the intel 965s and IDE cdroms
[04:32] <bruenig> combatmode, you said you are dapper, so that is 6.06, from there you would have to upgrade twice, if you install 5.10 that would be three upgrades
[04:32] <Lord_Vader> I remember that
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> !language | Random reminder of the day #1
[04:32] <ubotu> Random reminder of the day #1: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:32] <Tarkus> Jordan_U_: i typed "sudo modprobe nvidia" and it didnt do anything. no message
[04:33] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, botspammer ;)
[04:33] <moDumass> awesome i fixed it through run, all command line, i feel geeky
[04:33] <Lord_Vader> lol
[04:33] <beattech> How can I get my SIS ac'97 integrated sound card to work in volume thing, it shows up in lsmod and device manager... but it says The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. and No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. Please... I dont know what to do here...
[04:33] <fjasonf2> anyone here have wifi bridging experience?
[04:33] <fjasonf2> pm me
[04:34] <Jordan_U_> Tarkus, That is good, now can you pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:34] <Doughy> Another question, what's the best photo management software for linux?
[04:34] <bruenig> thunar is good
[04:34] <bruenig> nautilus too
[04:34] <beattech> Please... somebody help
[04:34] <wastrel> never heard of thunar, i use f-spot it is adequate
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> Doughy: Don't know what's !best, but F-Spot is pretty decent.