[06:41] <biz> SlackRat: that would be no problem i think?
[06:41] <SlackRat> problem with ubuntu is its one cd......internet based packaging
[06:41] <timster> !x kill
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x kill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <SlackRat> no, but if you want a program, without internet that isnt included, what do you do?
[06:42] <waylandbill> there's dvds available from vendors for 3 bucks or so.
[06:42] <computerhermit> hello people
[06:42] <SlackRat> or the dvd, which amazon has for about 10 bucks
[06:42] <SlackRat> or the linux format dvd that came with theri magazine a while back
[06:43] <jthomas> good day, all, from snowy Minnesota!  Can anyone help me to set up Free/Busy publishing in KDE's KOrganizer/Calendar?
[06:43] <waylandbill> bring your computer to the internet. that's whatcha do. :-)
[06:43] <timster> You made me kill my desktop
[06:43] <timster> >_<
[06:43] <valerio> ciao
[06:43] <timster> So I did Ctrl Alt Backspace
[06:43] <biz> ok, thanks
[06:43] <SlackRat> mwahahaha
[06:43] <timster> That restars x right?
[06:43] <jthomas> Is anyone familiar with KDE's PIM?
[06:44] <SlackRat> biz, or you can take your chances that the apps you want dont need other apps and go where you can download them as deb files onto a cd
[06:44] <SlackRat> and install them at home...problem is many apps need dependencies to run
[06:44] <bonbonthejon> SlackRat: there is an apt-floppy, does the same kind of thing
[06:45] <bonbonthejon> hi computerhermit
[06:45] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: whats the problem
[06:45] <SlackRat> its why i didint use ubuntu if i didnt have a net connection......bonbon...really, wheres the apt floppy?
[06:45] <SlackRat> you have a link?
[06:45] <computerhermit> hi bonbonthejon
[06:45] <computerhermit> :-)
[06:46] <jthomas> bonbonthejon: i cannot publish; if I create an appointment it says it cannot be saved
[06:46] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: where are you publishing to?
[06:46] <jthomas> bonbonthejon: my URL is a local file (actually a NFS mount because it wasn't working under Samba either)
[06:46] <amsmith42> Why might Wine be ghosted in Adept?
[06:46] <jthomas> URL: /home/jthomas/.FreeBusy/jthomas.vfb
[06:47] <jthomas> bonbonthejon: URL: /home/jthomas/.FreeBusy/jthomas.vfb
[06:47] <bonbonthejon> SlackRat: i heard about apt-floppy, never tried it, but i found this http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/05/06/update-or-install-applications-on-debianubuntu-without-an-internet-connection/
[06:47] <jthomas> bonbonthejon: tried user name as both jthomas and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:47] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: do you have permissions to the nfs drive
[06:47] <SlackRat> thanks
[06:47] <cox377> does anyone here use avidemux?
[06:47] <jthomas> yes full
[06:48] <jthomas> bonbonthejon yes full permissions
[06:48] <jthomas> cox377 a bit... but i never really understood it...
[06:48] <argonel> biz: do you have another debian or ubuntu box that does have internet?
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: i'ven never used the feature, you might ask in #kde or I think there is a #kontact
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> argonel: biz left
[06:49] <argonel> haha
[06:49] <jthomas> bonbonthejon thank you i'll try #kontact
[06:49] <cox377> jthomas: i know, i've just edited a movie with it and cut out the bits i didnt want an i'm no unable to save it
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> jthomas: there usually aren't a lot of people in there, you might need to try kde
[06:49] <cox377> jthomas: if u save as an avi it says the damn audio is missing
[06:51] <jthomas> cox377 i think it has to pull the audio out first or something... not sure... do a google search for desktop video avidemux, i recall a video tutorial about how it was done
[06:51] <SlackRat> wow, thats a useful tool that one
[06:53] <posingaspopular> sudo aptitute get firefox?
[06:54] <SlackRat> aptitude get??
[06:54] <posingaspopular> SlackRat: I dont know what im doing
[06:54] <posingaspopular> with aptitude anyway
[06:55] <bonbonthejon> posingaspopular: just "sudo aptitude install firefox"
[06:55] <posingaspopular> bonbonthejon: thanks
[06:55] <eilker> i wanna add an mp3 to my *.avi file, could someone help me pls ?
[06:57] <Mena> some hwo i amke the login manager to defualt and now i must every time
[06:57] <callum_> hey all
[06:57] <Mena> to enter my name
[06:57] <bonbonthejon> hi callum_
[06:57] <callum_> im new to da linux world
[06:57] <Mena> what to change to enable it to remeber my name
[06:57] <bonbonthejon> Mena: its in the system settings, let me find it
[06:57] <waylandbill> callum_: excellent. welcome to it.
[06:57] <Mena> ok
[06:58] <jthomas> Mena go into KDE's System Settings, then into Login Manager, then the Convenience tab
[06:58] <callum_> using Kubuntu at the moment might go to Ubuntu
[06:58] <SlackRat> apt-get install xchm, then find the ubuntu books, here:
[06:58] <Mena> jthomas, ok
[06:58] <SlackRat> http://www.sirdaz.com/lin/
[06:58] <SlackRat> unzip them
[06:58] <SlackRat> and enjoy
[06:58] <bonbonthejon> Mena: yeah, run kcontrol, don't use System Settins
[06:58] <eilker> !avidemux
[06:58] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[06:58] <eilker> !avidemux2
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avidemux2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <waylandbill> callum_: you can install ubuntu-desktop package and you'll have ubuntu (with KDE) available
[06:59] <Mena> bonbonthejon, ok
[06:59] <SlackRat> not a bright bot, is it....
[06:59] <callum_> thnks
[07:00] <callum_> but is tht easy cos without using the Avent
[07:00] <bonbonthejon> SlackRat: it just means noone has put information about that particular entry
[07:00] <callum_> cos its command line
[07:00] <Mena> bonbonthejon, then enable auto login
[07:00] <SlackRat> thank god bonbonthejon, i thought i was the only one who went straight to kcontrol
[07:00] <SlackRat> i know what it means, i wasnt under the impression it was a robot reading books, lol
[07:00] <bonbonthejon> SlackRat: I like system settings, but some things in kcontrol dont show up
[07:00] <eilker>  i click to record button and xvidcap closes itself, any idea ?
[07:00] <Mena> bonbonthejon, or jthomas,   i did that befor but it didnt work
[07:01] <SlackRat> right, or in different order, like wallpaper under display
[07:01] <bonbonthejon> Mena: you can have it put in your user name only, or also log in
[07:02] <callum_> REGISTER 142242
[07:02] <callum_> lol
[07:02] <Mena> bonbonthejon,ok
[07:02] <jthomas> Mena what exactly are you looking for?  If you want it to pre-select a user, look on the left side of that Convenience tab
[07:02] <|Daisuke_Ido|> is there a way to "clean up" apt's database?  reading the db seems to take longer than actually installing software anymore.
[07:02] <Mena> jthomas, ok
[07:03] <bonbonthejon> |Daisuke_Ido|: if you clean with apt-get it will remove the packages it downloaded, not what you mean
[07:05] <jthomas> Mena figure it out?
[07:05] <root_> .
[07:05] <Mena> jthomas, i will try it now
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> yep
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> it's seale
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> sealed
[07:06] <|Daisuke_Ido|> bonbonthejon: i knew that part
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> Kubuntu is now going to be my primary OS
[07:06] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: yay!
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> I can do all my media stuff from it
[07:07] <LL_Hakaisou> it supports my ipod right out of the box
[07:07] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm working on installing WoW
[07:07] <LL_Hakaisou> i have no reason to reinstall windows
[07:07] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: which gen ipod?
[07:07] <LL_Hakaisou> ipod video
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> it's nifty cause i always keep it in disk mode
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> so i have lots of media on it that the ipod can't play or even use
[07:08] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: yeah
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> like roughly 49 gigs of anime
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> 40*
[07:08] <waylandbill> !universe | callum_
[07:08] <ubotu> callum_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:09] <callum_> cheers
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> you know
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> the most daunting part about this whole experience was learning how to install stuff
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> once you get that, it's nice and cozy
[07:09] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: all the software is in adept, no need to download from many websites, in most cases
[07:10] <bonbonthejon> LL_Hakaisou: since you have an ipod, you might want to check out RockBox, it's pretty sweet
[07:10] <waylandbill> dependency hell is much reduced for sure.
[07:10] <waylandbill> bonbonthejon: RockBox do video to ipod?
[07:11] <bonbonthejon> waylandbill: video support is in the works, I think it does very low frame rate, but I have a greyscale ipod so I dont know for sure
[07:12] <LL_Hakaisou> i don't use my ipod for media much anyway
[07:12] <LL_Hakaisou> i used to, but it's more useful as a plug and play removable hard drive
[07:12] <Zoohouse> Quick question: Can I use http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ for my Kubuntu source list or is there another list for Kubuntu?
[07:13] <bonbonthejon> Zoohouse: yes you can use that
[07:13] <Zoohouse> bonbonthejon: thenks
[07:13] <bonbonthejon> Zoohouse: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu all share repos
[07:14] <Zoohouse> bonbonthejon: is it a good idea to include source repos?
[07:14] <bonbonthejon> Zoohouse: unless you are planning on compiling, most users wouldn't need them
[07:14] <Zoohouse> bonbonthejon: thenks
[07:15] <Mena> Jthomas, bonbonthejon, thanks
[07:15] <bonbonthejon> Mena: guess it worked :)
[07:15] <Mena> yes
[07:16] <comosicus> hey alll it's a fuckt up situation on spanish channel's
[07:16] <zdub> hi, everybody!
[07:16] <bonbonthejon> hi zdub
[07:16] <comosicus> nobody whant to help me
[07:16] <LL_Hakaisou> zdub: hello
[07:16] <jthomas> Mena, no problem, just make sure to help someone else along their way to KDE!
[07:16] <SlackRat> whats the problem como?
[07:17] <Mena> jthomas, hope so if i can
[07:17] <Mena> :)
[07:17] <LL_Hakaisou> if you are a pirate say AR!
[07:17] <zdub> how can i remove a not definitive installed package with unmet dependencies?
[07:18] <Kaajavi> hi
[07:18] <SlackRat> que es el probleme?
[07:18] <Kaajavi> hay alguien de argentina que le pueda dar una mano a este nobato?
[07:18] <comosicus> i'v been on spanish channel(madrid they kick me out,sevilla same,almeria same) and all i whant to ask is how do i find a channel used by the locals from huelcar de almeria
[07:18] <ScarFreewill1> since two restarts ago my pc loads apache and not apache2, where can i see where the startup daemons are?
[07:18] <jthomas> Kaajavi que te pasa?  Soy de Minnesota en la USA...
[07:19] <comosicus> they are there just for sex
[07:19] <SlackRat> there may not be a local channel.....just the language channel
[07:19] <Kaajavi> no puedo conectar un modem usb a mi kubuntu
[07:19] <bonbonthejon> !es | comosicus
[07:19] <ubotu> comosicus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:19] <Kaajavi> soy muuuuyyyy novato en esto
[07:19] <Kaajavi> gracias ubotu
[07:19] <comosicus> dan that
[07:20] <comosicus> done that
[07:20] <Kaajavi> bye
[07:20] <Kaajavi> jajaja
[07:20] <SlackRat> check the forum there are local forum groups on ubuntu forums under LoCo.....
[07:20] <Kaajavi> ok, no sabia q era un bot
[07:20] <Kaajavi> jajaja
[07:20] <jthomas> Kaajavi: escribe /join #kubuntu-es
[07:21] <SlackRat> but these are for questions about kubuntu, nothing local about that
[07:21] <comosicus> in my town there is a channel with all mirc users just from my town...must be in huelcar de almeria same to
[07:21] <christiane> after installing cthum,
[07:21] <SlackRat> not necessarily.....theres no local user group here, but some places do have them
[07:21] <zdub> guys, how to remove a package with unmet dependencies?
[07:22] <comosicus> something with #huelcar-de-almeria or something like that i'm looking for
[07:22] <SlackRat> sudo apt-get remove <package>
[07:22] <christiane> after installing cthumb and albumshaper I cannot find them in the k-menu to start them - any suggestions?
[07:22] <comosicus> so how do i find users of mirc from huelcar de almeria?
[07:23] <SlackRat> well, you wont find that on freenode so far as i know
[07:23] <Mena> does any one have the icon set micro
[07:23] <SlackRat> maybe check with #mIRC ?
[07:23] <SlackRat> or google for it
[07:23] <restagner> folks, i'm having some trouble with the MULTIVERSE repository. Each time i run Adept Updater, it shows an error for the Multiverse repository.  --- any ideas?
[07:24] <soulrider> restagner: dapper or edgy
[07:24] <Mena> pastebin, your source lsit
[07:24] <soulrider> ?
[07:24] <restagner> dapper
[07:24] <SlackRat> check the forums for local groups
[07:24] <ScarFreewill1> since two restarts ago my pc loads apache and not apache2, where can i see where the startup daemons are?
[07:24] <SlackRat> whats the error??
[07:24] <restagner> screenshot at http://home.socal.rr.com/rstagner/AdeptUpdater_Error.png
[07:24] <soulrider> check http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/05/13/ubuntu-quickie-enable-dapper-repositories/
[07:24] <zdub> SlackRat: thx :)
[07:24] <bonbonthejon> zdub: try "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[07:24] <restagner> soulrider: thanks i'll give it a look
[07:25] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: /etc/rcx.d  where x is the runlevel all symbolically linked to /etc/init.d/ scripts
[07:25] <restagner> soulrider: here's what I'm seeing http://home.socal.rr.com/rstagner/AdeptUpdater_Error.png
[07:25] <soulrider> restagner:maybe the address is wrong
[07:25] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: thx
[07:25] <soulrider> but im not sure, i can never remember the correct ones
[07:25] <zdub> bonbonthejon: thanks to you too :)
[07:26] <SlackRat> might be a problem with that server atm.....youre stuck waiting for it?
[07:26] <soulrider> !seen garen
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen garen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <bonbonthejon> restagner: open konsole, run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the results
[07:28] <comosicus> can i bug you with a problem?
[07:28] <ScarFreewill1> i've found both apaches in /etc/rc4.d
[07:28] <lascar> 'tis what the channel is fo
[07:28] <ScarFreewill1> should i just take one out?
[07:29] <Mena> !#kubuntu
[07:29] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:29] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: you can remove the one you don't want to start if you like.
[07:29] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: those are only symbolic links
[07:29] <bonbonthejon> comosicus: ask the question
[07:29] <Mena> !ask
[07:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:29] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: ok, i'll just move them,,, thanks for your help
[07:30] <comosicus> in my town there is a channel wich is used by the locals.......i whant to find same thing .....a chanell used by the locals from huelcar de almeria in spain
[07:30] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: do the S and the K for the one you don't want.
[07:30] <bonbonthejon> !loco
[07:30] <christiane> where  do i find programs like albumshaper after the installation?
[07:30] <ubotu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[07:30] <bonbonthejon> !loco | comosicus
[07:30] <ubotu> comosicus: please see above
[07:31] <bonbonthejon> thats funny, it knows when to say that
[07:31] <comosicus> not again...................
[07:31] <comosicus> k
[07:31] <Dr_willis> comosicus,  irc servers are 'world wide'    and there are 1000's of irc servers  - finding the channel for your town.. its best to ask the people in the towns. :)
[07:31] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: i just cut it out of the folder
[07:31] <callum_> btw
[07:31] <comosicus> yes but to ask them i have to find them nooo
[07:32] <SlackRat> youre looking for mIRC users? or kubuntu users?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> or Linux users..
[07:32] <comosicus> mirc
[07:32] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: did you mean turn the S into a K for the one i don't want because i don't understand what you said last
[07:32] <comosicus> users
[07:32] <Dr_willis> mIRC is a specific irc client. -
[07:32] <SlackRat> then you have to search for mIRC, this has nothing to do with that here
[07:32] <SlackRat> its a linux channel
[07:32] <Mena> jthomas, Do you know the icon set (Micro)
[07:32] <waylandbill> ScarFreewill1: no there was an S that starts and a K that kills. You want to remove both the S script and the K script.
[07:33] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: ok, then i'll go have to find the K because i don't see it...
[07:33] <morvok> anyone running a 3 head setup on there X system?
[07:34] <jthomas> Mena, not really, whats up?
[07:34] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: ok i got it in /etc/rc6.d
[07:34] <Dr_willis> morvok,  not currently. but i have befor.
[07:34] <Mena> jthomas, its an icon set from a site devianart and i can fet it for kde so i just ask if some one hvae it for kde heheh :)
[07:35] <ScarFreewill1> waylandbill: ok now i'm done ty again ;)
[07:35] <jthomas> Mena, sorry i've never really got any Iconset to work unless its preinstalled, never spent time on it
[07:35] <morvok> Dr_willis: I have too. but have you ever seen when the monitor enters a screen the monitor fails. resetting X will not bring it back up. a full reboot must be done.  I have gone through the configs 100 times. I can't find a reason for it.
[07:35] <Mena> jthomas, ok :)
[07:35] <morvok> when the mouse enters the screen!
[07:35] <morvok> sorry.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:36] <Dr_willis> sounds like a driver glitz to me.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> I use nvidia/twinview stuff
[07:36] <morvok> Dr_willis: different monitor, different monitor arrangement. whatever the screen that is "rightOf" Screen0 fails.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> but ONLY if its 'right Of" ?
[07:37] <echosyp> someone help me troubleshoot my sound
[07:37] <echosyp> it doesn't work
[07:37] <echosyp> obviously
[07:38] <morvok> Dr_willis: it appears that way.
[07:39] <comosicus> i'm back
[07:40] <comosicus> helooo
[07:40] <Mena_> hi
[07:40] <comosicus> not again
[07:40] <echosyp> anyone know what i could do to fix it
[07:40] <comosicus> now what i'm looking for is what irc server adres it is used in huelcar de almeria
[07:40] <echosyp> or where to start
[07:41] <Mena_> echosyp, do you sure it doesnt work
[07:41] <echosyp> yes,
[07:41] <echosyp> im smart enough to know its not muted
[07:41] <echosyp> and there are oss modules loaded
[07:41] <echosyp> i was thnking id install alsa and try and use that
[07:41] <Mena_> echosyp, i dont knwo but maybe if yuou opened up th ekmixer nad edit it will work i does this for me befor
[07:42] <Mena_> and*
[07:42] <echosyp> well, im actually using ubuntu not kubuntu
[07:42] <steve__> hi. Does anyone know how to get a camcorder working in kubuntu 6:06?
[07:42] <christiane> how  do I start the program "albumshaper"?
[07:42] <echosyp> im banned from #ubuntu for being stupid
[07:42] <Mena_> hmm ok
[07:42] <echosyp> i gave out a shell cause i didn't know that was a bad idea
[07:42] <echosyp> and the a hole used my nick and got me banned
[07:43] <Mena_> hmm i realy dont know much
[07:43] <echosyp> then told me "ask for help in #ubuntu"
[07:43] <echosyp> ...
[07:44] <comosicus>  <Dr_willis
[07:45] <carl__> hi
[07:45] <bonbonthejon> hi Filthpig
[07:46] <esaym> is there anything better then ksnapshot?
[07:46] <Filthpig> a few days ago gave me(!) 1024 mb ram (Kingston chip)
[07:46] <Filthpig> I had 512 mb already (dual 256)
[07:47] <Filthpig> er
[07:47] <Filthpig> *A FRIEND gave me ram
[07:47] <morvok> I have 3 1gb kinston chips :)
[07:47] <Filthpig> yeah, well
[07:47] <zdub> how to find out the kernel version from a terminal?
[07:47] <Filthpig> I slapped the new chip in there
[07:47] <morvok> uname -a
[07:47] <Filthpig> but now my system uses like 1,3 gb of ram
[07:47] <morvok> err..
[07:47] <waylandbill> I have free ram out of 512. :-)
[07:47] <waylandbill> good enough for me
[07:48] <Mena_> echosyp, you opened the sysetm>>>prefence>>sound right
[07:48] <Filthpig> in percent it seems kubuntu uses just as much ram as when I had 512 mb
[07:48] <waylandbill> Filthpig: caching will do that.
[07:48] <echosyp> yes
[07:48] <scheuri> hi all
[07:48] <bonbonthejon> hi scheuri
[07:48] <Mena_> echosyp, ok
[07:48] <echosyp> it all seems like it would work
[07:48] <zdub> morvok: thx :)
[07:48] <Filthpig> waylandbill: well it shouldn't, now should it?
[07:49] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:49] <bonbonthejon> Filthpig: with more memory, linux can keep more cached
[07:49] <bonbonthejon> hi slow-motion
[07:49] <scheuri> anyone know how to add information (karamba? superkaramba?) on the desktop such as temperature of mainboard and CPU and rpm of fan?
[07:49] <Mena_> echosyp, give me you a descrbtion for the problem agian plz
[07:49] <Filthpig> my machine actually appears to be slower now than before i "upgraded" it
[07:49] <Mena_> echosyp, i will ask for you
[07:49] <echosyp> he unbanned me
[07:49] <echosyp> but thank you
[07:49] <morvok> filthpig: Linux will run faster now becuase its not paging its cached memory to the hard disk.
[07:49] <waylandbill> Filthpig: of course it should.
[07:49] <Mena_> ok
[07:50] <Mena_> no prob :) welcome
[07:50] <scheuri> Filthpig: did you upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[07:50] <Filthpig> scheuri: been running 6.10 since it's release
[07:50] <scheuri> Filthpig: ah I see...well...I must admit I stick with 6.06...had bad experiences with 6.10...now I am on 7.04
[07:51] <Filthpig> hmh
[07:51] <slow-motion> hi bonbonthejon
[07:51] <Filthpig> I was quite pleased with 6.10
[07:51] <[KotG|Tanuva] > ive already installed java jdk and jre, but which package(s) adds the java vm to firefox and konqueror?
[07:51] <scheuri> I can not really say what it exactly was...it felt slowly, bloated....but that is only feeling...I have no hard facts...
[07:51] <Filthpig> hm
[07:52] <Filthpig> I haven't had that problem
[07:52] <Filthpig> only more stuff supported ;)
[07:52] <rob-west> No new emails in any folders matching 'inbox'
[07:52] <rob-west> :)
[07:52] <scheuri> Filthpig: well...that is great...:)...I am happy not everyone felt like I did...I am, however, very happy with 7.04 so far
[07:52] <Mena_> scheri, what new in it
[07:53] <Mena_> scheri, heheh :)
[07:53] <BluesKaj> [KotG|Tanuva] , there are separate java plugins for browsers
[07:53] <scheuri> Mena_: ;)
[07:53] <Filthpig> morvok: I know the system should be faster, but it's really not. Actually CivIV crashed for the first time under Cedega AFTER I upgraded
[07:53] <Mena_> scheri, ok :)
[07:53] <[KotG|Tanuva] > BluesKaj: but where can I get em from?
[07:53] <Filthpig> because of the lack of memory
[07:54] <scheuri> Mena_: well...new kernel (2.6.20), new version of everything, upstarted is now default AFAIK, new network helper
[07:54] <BluesKaj> on the java site , do a browser plugin search
[07:54] <[KotG|Tanuva] > okay
[07:54] <scheuri> Mena_: upstart...not upstarted
[07:54] <Mena_> scheri, ok
[07:54] <BluesKaj> !plugins
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <Mena_> scheri, seems nice
[07:54] <Mena_> scheri, hheeh
[07:54] <Filthpig> scheuri: I'm considering switching from kubuntu to sabayon... Otherwise I'll upgrade to 7.04 as soon as it's stable
[07:54] <scheuri> Mena_: I am very confident that it will be a very good realease...
[07:55] <Mena_> scheri, ok
[07:55] <scheuri> Filthpig: sabayon....never heard of it....:)....but...linux is about choice...that is great
[07:55] <Filthpig> I felt kubuntu made giant leaps from 606 to 610, so I can only imagine the 704 ;)
[07:55] <scheuri> I, for one, am very sure that 7.04 will be a very good release...
[07:55] <Filthpig> sabayon is gentoobased
[07:56] <Filthpig> a really immense distro
[07:56] <waylandbill> Filthpig: sabayon is not easy to upgrade.
[07:56] <scheuri> ah, gentoo based...oh well...bad memories for me there...;)
[07:56] <Mena_> sabayon ists name is smothy* heheh as i guess
[07:56] <Filthpig> waylandbill: because..?
[07:56] <waylandbill> Filthpig: it comes with just about everything. blessing and curse.
[07:57] <scheuri> does someone use karamba or superkaramba?
[07:57] <Filthpig> scheuri: actually I installed it today ;)
[07:57] <scheuri> Filthpig: I just did 10 minutes ago...;)
[07:57] <scheuri> Filthpig: how to "activate" it? (sounds stupid I know)
[07:57] <Filthpig> hm
[07:57] <Filthpig> utilities - superkaramba?
[07:57] <waylandbill> Filthpig: lots of packages to compile but the overlays aren't completely compatible with main portage, so you have to do things to upgrade
[07:58] <Filthpig> waylandbill: ah
[07:58] <Mena_> !fiesty
[07:58] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:58] <Filthpig> gentoo for you, eh
[07:58] <Mena_> scheri, you using it right
[07:58] <Mena_> scheri, ask there heheh
[07:58] <scheuri> Mena_: ;)
[07:58] <[KotG|Tanuva] > do the superkaramba shadows actually look right with 3d desktops? under suse+xgl+compiz it looked horrible...
[07:59] <Mena_> scheri, :)
[08:00] <morvok> brb..
[08:03] <provolik> hi
[08:03] <Mena_> Heloo!
[08:04] <Mena_> Hello!*
[08:04] <Mena_> heheh even this word
[08:04] <provolik> Someone of you can help me to find some hypertext editor like ultraedit fo kubuntu?
[08:04] <Erunno> provolik: Quanta ?
[08:04] <jack_> hi guys, iam not sure which version of java i need to install, if a website tells me:you do not have Java Installed. download Java from Sun Java website
[08:05] <provolik> Quanta gives me some problem
[08:05] <Mena_> jack_, what do you mean do you have it
[08:05] <provolik> it crusches random
[08:05] <Mena_> jack_, if you dont do this
[08:05] <Filthpig> hm
[08:06] <jack_> Mena not actually no
[08:06] <Mena_> jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(VERSION)-bin
[08:06] <Mena_> jack_, first
[08:06] <Mena_> to check what do you have do this
[08:06] <jack_> Mena which version would i need if i dont have?
[08:06] <Mena_> jack_,  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:07] <Mena_> you must have java1.5 or you can use java1.6
[08:07] <Erunno> provolik: How about NVU ?
[08:07] <Mena_> jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(5 or 6)-bin
[08:07] <jack_> Mena_: it says
[08:07] <jack_> There is only 1 program which provides java
[08:07] <jack_> (/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1). Nothing to configure.
[08:07] <provolik> I think I don't know it
[08:07] <LL_Hakaisou> HELP!!!
[08:07] <Mena_> jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java(5 or 6)-bin  okat di that command
[08:07] <provolik> is it from mozilla?
[08:07] <LL_Hakaisou> I'M STUCK IN 640x480 resolution!
[08:08] <bhsx> hi, i have a fresh install of kubuntu 6.10, just did the suggested updates, and would like to install beryl with ati x300 card... can anyone help me?
[08:08] <Erunno> provolik: Yes, it's the former Mozilla html editor, now a standalone application.
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_,  you can use 6
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_,  its okay
[08:08] <provolik> I need something like ultraedit, do you know it?
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_,  are kubuntu 6.10
[08:08] <bhsx> i have NOT installed ati drivers yet
[08:08] <provolik> I need not only for html but also for css and PHP
[08:08] <Erunno> provolik: Sorry, never used Ultraedit before :/
[08:08] <jack_> Mena_: syntax error near unexpected token `(' it says, i am on 6.10
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin  okat di that command
[08:08] <Mena_> jack_, try again
[08:09] <Erunno> provolik: I'm out of ideas then, sorry.
[08:09] <Mena_> jack_, with that
[08:09] <provolik> uhm
[08:09] <provolik> thanks anyway
[08:09] <Mena_> jack_, woked
[08:09] <jack_> Mena_: it works, cool thanks
[08:09] <bhsx> does anyone have beryl running on ati in K that can help me?
[08:09] <Mena_> :) welcome
[08:10] <jack_> Mena_: do you have any idea how to send text messages from 6.10 (skype or any programme) to a mobile?
[08:10] <Mena_> jack_, after this check sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:10] <Erunno> provolik: You can use the windows version of Ultra edit via wine.
[08:10] <jack_> skype doesnt have this feature in linux, ok, doing then
[08:10] <Mena_> and check if that uses java6 after installed
[08:10] <jack_> Mena_: ok
[08:10] <BishiNightBird> woo I managed to get the ati propriatary driver installed... from ati's website, not from adapt...
[08:11] <Mena_> jack_, i realy dont know
[08:11] <LL_Hakaisou> sorry to bother anyone, but could someone help me address my video issue?
[08:11] <Mena_> !skype
[08:11] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:11] <bhsx> does anyone have beryl running on ati in K that can help me?
[08:11] <jack_> Mena_: i have skype installed, thats not the prob, the prob is the missing feature
[08:11] <LL_Hakaisou> !ati
[08:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:12] <Mena_> jack_, i dont know went to the site form the program and see mybe they are trick or something
[08:12] <Mena_> jack_, go*
[08:12] <provolik> Erunno, I don't have wine
[08:12] <Mena_> from*
[08:12] <Erunno> provolik: It's in the repositories, called, well, wine :o)
[08:12] <bhsx> it's a matter of getting beryl working really... i've had the ati drivers succesfully installed, but then when i install beryl everything goes BOOM... no more 3d...
[08:13] <provolik> I search it
[08:13] <provolik> but I didn't find
[08:13] <Mena_> what do you mean by BOOM
[08:13] <bhsx> so i'm hoping to get some info on how to make (k)ubuntu play nicely with ati and beryl together and haven't had any luck
[08:13] <Erunno> provolik: Have you unlocked the universe repo ?
[08:13] <Mena_> you cant use beryl or problem with card
[08:13] <provolik> yes
[08:13] <jack_> Mena_: how do i click ok to accept the java terms in the shell?
[08:13] <Mena_> press tab
[08:13] <Mena_> then enter
[08:14] <one> plz need help! How could i kill all tasks from onother user via shell/konsole ?
[08:14] <bhsx> i mean that i install the drivers, and have 3d working, then i install beryl and the 3d gets hosed, and beryl crashes
[08:14] <Erunno> provolik: Strange. Did you use adept or apt-get ?
[08:14] <Mena_> bhsx, ohhhh okay ak here
[08:14] <Mena_> !beryl
[08:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:14] <jack_> Mena_: thanks, never had this issue before
[08:14] <one> how could i kill all tasks of a user ?
[08:14] <provolik> adept
[08:14] <Mena_> jack_, no prob
[08:14] <Erunno> !wine | provolik
[08:14] <ubotu> provolik: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:14] <Mena_> go*
[08:15] <jack_> Mena_:
[08:15] <jack_> 1    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[08:15] <jack_> *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[08:15] <jack_> Mena_: i choose then 2, right?
[08:15] <Mena_> yes
[08:15] <provolik> Erunno:
[08:15] <provolik> it's very strange
[08:16] <Mena_> jack_, for futur use pastebin for large results or pasts
[08:16] <jart> i'm trying to install a kernel driver and it says a couple headers are missing: linux/irqreturn.h and linux/irqflags.h.  I have build-essential and the kernel headers installed
[08:16] <Mena_> !pastebin | jack_
[08:16] <ubotu> jack_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:16] <Erunno> provolik: try sudo apt-get wine in the console
[08:16] <bhsx> k i'll try that thanks
[08:16] <jart> any ideas what's wrong?
[08:17] <jack_> Mena_: mena, ok, i usually use that, thought its ok for such small things, ok i will
[08:17] <LL_Hakaisou> why doens vmware-player keep trying to install every time i try to use apt-get?
[08:17] <LL_Hakaisou> does*
[08:17] <Mena_> jack_, no no i just telling you to know the pastbin if you dont
[08:17] <Mena_> :)
[08:17] <one>  plz need help! How could i kill all tasks from onother user via shell/konsole ?
[08:18] <jack_> Mena_: thank you
[08:18] <provolik> It dows not work Erunno
[08:18] <provolik> I try to install libwine from adept
[08:18] <provolik> but it says me BREAK(install)
[08:18] <Erunno> provolik: Not libwine, the package is called "wine"
[08:19] <provolik> I don't have it
[08:19] <jack_> Mena_: i still get the error, about not having java, do i need to restart the whole kde? i just restarted konqeror
[08:19] <Mena_> jack_, also you was talking about sites neeed java
[08:19] <Mena_> jack_m what are you suing
[08:19] <Erunno> provolik: Go to http://www.winehq.com and add their Ubuntu repo to your sources list. It should be safe in this case.
[08:19] <Mena_> jack_, firefox
[08:19] <Mena_> jack_, or something else
[08:20] <jack_> Mena_: i use the konqueror
[08:20] <||arifaX> I have an iPod and I have latest gtkpod and podnova. With podnova I download audio and video podcasts to my local drive. how can i sync that podcasts to my ipod eg. with gtkpod. I think I have to configure one of the 2 programs to look in the others dirs - anyone familiar with that??
[08:20] <provolik> I am trying Erunno
[08:20] <jart> is there any reason why linux-headers would be missing some headers?
[08:20] <Mena_> jack_, second plz
[08:20] <jack_> Mena_: what do you mean by second? restart kde?
[08:20] <Mena_> no sec for me
[08:21] <amsmith42> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-bin
[08:21] <Mena_> jack_, bec they need plugin
[08:21] <Mena_> no just the whole java
[08:21] <jack_> Mena_: do you know which one i should go for?
[08:21] <Mena_> jack_, i am searching
[08:22] <Mena_> jack_, i know for fire fox
[08:22] <jack_> Mena_: thanks
[08:23] <Mena_> jack_, if you dint need th whole jave you an remove it but some programes used it like azures
[08:24] <provolik> Erunno... I cannot open that site T_T
[08:24] <LL_Hakaisou> hi... um... i need help reinstalling my video driver
[08:24] <jack_> i better keep it then mena_
[08:24] <bhsx> is there a kubunty equiv to gksudo?
[08:24] <Mena_> jack_, yes i guess
[08:24] <LL_Hakaisou> it's kdesu
[08:24] <bhsx> ty
[08:25] <reldruh> feisty fawn herd 5 was just released
[08:25] <Erunno> provolik: Hm, seems to be down indeed.
[08:25] <LL_Hakaisou> hi... um... i need help reinstalling my video driver
[08:25] <reldruh> As much as I'd love to update, I don't think it's going to happen at least until the betas come out :-(
[08:25] <Erunno> provolik: Leap of faith: Add this to your sources list: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[08:26] <jack_> mena_ i didnt allow java, thats why it didnt work afterwords thanks
[08:26] <Mena_> jack_, didt it work now
[08:26] <reldruh> has anybody here updated to feisty yet?
[08:26] <Mena_> jack_, ok
[08:26] <Erunno> provolik: Or can you post the contents of your sources.list via pastbin ?
[08:27] <Erunno> provolik: I'd still like to know why wine isn't available for you.
[08:27] <Erunno> provolik: From the universe repo
[08:27] <Mena_> jack_, i dont have much experiences but with help here i thought that its plugin
[08:27] <jack_> Mena_: i also have the problem that delicious bookmarks in konqueror or kopete always ask me for the password, even though i ticked remember and its in the kwallet anyway, yes it works fine now, thanks
[08:28] <house> I am having trouble getting a command to work, I am a n00b, so I think I am typing it wrong,,,,little help please?
[08:28] <Mena_> jack_, maybe you can delet the inf in kwallet and it will be added auto or you can maunaly
[08:28] <Erunno> house: Which command ?
[08:28] <house> 1 sec
[08:28] <Mena_> jack_, bec that happened befor with some one and its worked after that
[08:28] <house> have you ever used flac?
[08:28] <Mena_> jack_, and i also try that but dont remeber when
[08:29] <Erunno> house: Sorry, no.
[08:29] <house> well that isn't important , maybe you could look at the command line I am putting in
[08:30] <reldruh> house: I've used it a little bit
[08:31] <LL_Hakaisou> !troubleshoot
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troubleshoot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <house> ok so what command do i enter to decode an mp3?
[08:31] <LL_Hakaisou> !troubleshooting
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troubleshooting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <reldruh> house: decode? You mean just to play it from the command line?
[08:32] <house> reldruh : I want to covert it to mp3
[08:33] <LL_Hakaisou> can someone please help me fix my video output?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> flac = free audio lossless codec... similar to wav except compressed with no data loss...requires conversion utility to mp3
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm stuck in 640x480 resolution
[08:34] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, is kubuntu already installed ?
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> yes
[08:34] <argonel> had that myself a couple of days ago
[08:35] <LL_Hakaisou> it was working fine, then i did ctrl+alt+backspace and all of a sudden i'm stuck in 640x480
[08:35] <LL_Hakaisou> my normal resolution is 1280x1024
[08:35] <reldruh> house: do you have to do it from the command line? I think I remember an amarok script that would transcode files on the fly for use with daps
[08:35] <house> ?
[08:36] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: can you change it in the video prefs, or is 640x480 the only mode allowed?
[08:36] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/scrn size/apply
[08:36] <house> the docs say to type flac -d filename
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> it's the only allowed resolution
[08:36] <house> do i need to put dir path?
[08:36] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: does it fix itself on a reboot?
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> i've rebooted 5 times and it hasn't fixed
[08:36] <house> what is daps?
[08:37] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf - is there a mention of 640x480 in there?
[08:37] <holzmodem> how can i change the style of the popup dialog , when i push a FN + ... button on my laptop
[08:37] <Mena_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh do thsi and configure the screen
[08:37] <Mena_> this*
[08:37] <reldruh> house: dap = digital audio player. Like an ipod, but it includes all kinds of players
[08:37] <house> I see
[08:38] <house> that is what i am trying to do , make it mp3 for my ipod
[08:38] <CShadowRun> anyone know of any nice bandwith stats program for linux? (Something like netlimiter would be good)
[08:39] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/hardware/monitor configure
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> Kaj, that doesn't work
[08:39] <chx> is there a list of Canonical certified hardware? Yes I googled, searched forums and can't find this list :(
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> i said that already
[08:39] <clau>  how can I import a database from a previous installation (I have only the database files) into a current installation?
[08:39] <argonel> BluesKaj: he already indicated that 640x480 was the only allowed mode
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> anyway, i found this in the xorg.conf file that looks interesting
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> Section "Screen"
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> 	Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> 	Device     "aticonfig-Device[0] "
[08:39] <LL_Hakaisou> 	Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0] "
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 	DefaultDepth     24
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 	SubSection "Display"
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 		Virtual   640 480
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 		Depth     24
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 		Modes    "640x480@60"
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> 	EndSubSection
[08:40] <LL_Hakaisou> EndSection
[08:40] <house> reldruh : do you know how I can do that with amarok?
[08:40] <BluesKaj> well, I had no options either til i configged my monitor in the hardware mode
[08:40] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: looks identical to what i had as well
[08:40] <Tm_T> !paste | LL_Hakaisou
[08:40] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:40] <reldruh> house: I'm working on it. I know I saw the script somewhere... I'm looking for it
[08:40] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: wish i could tell you why it happened.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:41] <house> thank you that is cool of you
[08:41] <BluesKaj> you don't have your monitor specifically configured so the default i s akways going to be 640x480
[08:41] <Mena_> LL_Hakaisou, yes use this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg andf just amke the resolution you want an remove others
[08:41] <argonel> it really would be nice to know what is rewriting the xorg.conf for no good reason
[08:41] <reldruh> house: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27512
[08:41] <reldruh> try that out, see if it does what you need
[08:42] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: let me know if you still have colour depth problems when you're done with the reconfigure
[08:42] <amsmith42> Automatix for Kubuntu Edgy? Such a thing? Good/bad?
[08:42] <Mena_> sorry this  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[08:42] <BluesKaj> he's gotta find his monitor drivers in the hardware drop down list
[08:42] <Tm_T> !automatix | amsmith42
[08:42] <ubotu> amsmith42: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:43] <amsmith42> Thank you
[08:43] <holzmodem> how can i change the theme of the atk dialogs?
[08:43] <amsmith42> !java | amsmith42
[08:43] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then...
[08:43] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, is your monitor driver in the hardware drop down list ?
[08:43] <LL_Hakaisou> i just got an error message that says
[08:44] <Tm_T> amsmith42: /msg ubotu java
[08:44] <argonel> BluesKaj: monitor drivers?
[08:44] <Tm_T> amsmith42: Or whatever and you can talk with that bot without disturbance,
[08:44] <LL_Hakaisou> DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[08:44] <BluesKaj> yes in system settings/monitor&display/hardware
[08:45] <argonel> BluesKaj: i don't think those are really drivers
[08:45] <argonel> definately not in the sense that there are video drivers
[08:45] <albert> Alguien me puede decir como puedo hacer un script con VIM que al ejecutarlo muestre un calendario? (porfavor)
[08:46] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a   in the terminal
[08:46] <thomax_> !es
[08:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:46] <|GaiJin|> *sigh* anyone here good at webservers?? dunno what I've done wrong...
[08:47] <albert> Ok, sorry ubotu
[08:47] <argonel> BluesKaj: what?! reconfigure all packages?
[08:47] <BluesKaj> they are video settings for his monitor ... lets not argue semantics ..lets' help him get resolution working
[08:47] <BluesKaj> argonel that unlocks apt or adept of it's locked up
[08:47] <argonel> BluesKaj: neat
[08:48] <LL_Hakaisou> didn't work
[08:48] <house> reldruh : how do I install this?
[08:49] <amsmith42> Thanks, Tm_T.
[08:49] <Tm_T> amsmith42: Np.
[08:49] <LL_Hakaisou> also, i checked the hardware thing
[08:50] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: the hardware thing?
[08:50] <reldruh> download it (it should come as a .tar.gz file), go to amarok, go to Tools > Script Manager, click Install, find the .tar.gz file and then click run in the script manager.
[08:50] <house> reldruh : do I need to extract it to any certain folder?
[08:50] <LL_Hakaisou> it's not listed, but i don't think that matters because it was working fine at 1280x1024 before on the plug n' play setting before
[08:50] <reldruh> house: no, don't extract it
[08:50] <house> oh ok
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> the process is locked....
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> wait...
[08:51] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: yes, i was on plug and play as well
[08:51] <LL_Hakaisou> would relogging clear that?
[08:52] <LL_Hakaisou> <.< >.>
[08:52] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: restarting should
[08:53] <house> reldruh ; so do you know how to use the script in amarok?
[08:54] <reldruh> house: no, I never have. There should be a menu entry when you click on a song? And if you click configure in the script manager you should get some options?
[08:54] <reldruh> I'm not really sure
[08:54] <bhsx> what's the kubuntu equiv of gnome-session?
[08:55] <bhsx> kdeinit?
[08:55] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then, what was that rebuilding command again?
[08:55] <house> thanks
[08:55] <LL_Hakaisou> nvm...
[08:55] <LL_Hakaisou> still locked
[08:55] <bhsx> if i was adding this, what would be the kde equiv? :
[08:55] <bhsx> #!/bin/sh
[08:55] <bhsx> Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer &
[08:55] <bhsx> DISPLAY=:1
[08:55] <bhsx> exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session
[08:56] <bhsx> sorry for the flood
[08:56] <Mena_> LL_hakaisou, i dont want to confuse you
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> i'll do my best
[08:56] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> yea, that was saved in my terminal
[08:56] <LL_Hakaisou> tried it
[08:57] <LL_Hakaisou> the process is still locked out
[08:57] <argonel> wtf
[08:57] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: sudo fuser /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[08:57] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: if it returns anything, it'll tell you what has the file open
[08:58] <bhsx> what's the kubuntu equiv of gnome-session to start kde?
[08:58] <LL_Hakaisou> 5329
[08:58] <Heavenquake> bhsx: startkde I think
[08:58] <bhsx> ah that's it
[08:58] <bhsx> thanks
[08:58] <Heavenquake> np
[08:58] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: ok, so: ps ax | grep 5329
[08:59] <Mena_> stdin,
[08:59] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[08:59] <LL_Hakaisou> done, now what?
[08:59] <stdin> Mena_
[08:59] <Mena_> hey you are here
[08:59] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: that should have returned something
[09:00] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:00] <stdin> just leaking about :)
[09:00] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: it depends on what it returned
[09:00] <LL_Hakaisou> 1000  6482<PHONE_NUMBER>000000<PHONE_NUMBER>000000<PHONE_NUMBER>000000<PHONE_NUMBER>000000
[09:00] <LL_Hakaisou> S+   pts/2      0:00 grep 5329
[09:01] <Mena_> stdin, i wanted to ask  a bout the resolution options and thi sstuff but no prob now :)
[09:01] <stdin> Mena_: I'm not an expert in X either :P
[09:01] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: try ps aux | grep 5329
[09:01] <bhsx> how do I add programs to startup in kubuntu? like system>pref>sessions for kde?
[09:01] <Mena_> stdin, hheheh okay no porb :)
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> oh crap
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> i put in as
[09:02] <BluesKaj> LL_Hakaisou, is your monitor listed in system settings hardware
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> for the last time, no
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> it is a plug n' play
[09:02] <stdin> !autostart | bhsx
[09:02] <ubotu> bhsx: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> it always was plug 'n play
[09:02] <|GaiJin|> anyone got a good guide for installin apache, mysql, php, and making them work in 6.10?? the ones I have tried don't seem to do anything....
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> it worked before, on plug 'n play
[09:02] <house> reldruh : do I need to restart? I dont see transcode as an option on my flac files in amarok
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:03] <bhsx> ty
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> i got the correct output now
[09:03] <reldruh> house: try restarting amarok. Make sure you quit it, not just minimize it to the tray
[09:03] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: did it give you a line like the second one you pasted?
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> no
[09:03] <argonel> LL_Hakaisou: ok, lets do the fuser line again
[09:03] <LL_Hakaisou> wait
[09:04] <LL_Hakaisou> i just looked up the process id in the process terminal
[09:04] <LL_Hakaisou> table, sorry
[09:04] <LL_Hakaisou> it registers as frontend
[09:04] <argonel> frontend?
[09:04] <house> reldruh : still not there
[09:05] <LL_Hakaisou> command usr/bin/perl
[09:05] <argonel|kub> (ok, make me actually use my kubuntu box why don't you? :)
[09:06] <house> reldruh : after i install the script, am i supposed to run it?
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[09:06] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: kill it, maybe it'll stay dead this time
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> i killed frontend, which freed up the config file
[09:06] <reldruh> house: Yes, you have to be running the script :-)
[09:06] <argonel|kub> exvcellent
[09:06] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm into the config now
[09:07] <argonel|kub> ok, just follow along
[09:07] <house> reldruh: i get this error he script 'transkode' exited with error code: 127
[09:07] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: it should ask you what video modes and colour depths you want
[09:07] <house> i need to put it in a different dir?
[09:09] <reldruh> house: you shouldn't... I don't know what to tell you. I don't know why it's doing that
[09:09] <house> it says this /home/house/.kde/share/apps/amarok/scripts/transkode/transkode: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm there
[09:09] <argonel|kub> htf do i get kde to tell me the colour depth of an image?
[09:09] <LL_Hakaisou> i keep selecting video modes and hitting enter, but it just tells me to select video modes again
[09:10] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: so you check the modes you want, then press tab, then enter?
[09:10] <BluesKaj> house, open adept and type libpng.so.3 in the searchbar , then install it
[09:10] <LL_Hakaisou> oh...
[09:10] <LL_Hakaisou> i need to hit tab?
[09:10] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: yes, the <ok> needs to be highlighted to continue
[09:10] <BluesKaj> tab moves the cursor
[09:11] <LL_Hakaisou> o_0, i'm in a CLI for this
[09:11] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:11] <argonel|kub> LL_Hakaisou: sadly, yes. you've fallen off the edge :)
[09:12] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then.
[09:12] <LL_Hakaisou> redid the command and it put up a basic GUI
[09:13] <LL_Hakaisou> selected video modes
[09:13] <CShadowRun> hmm, i have a 250gb sata drive hooked up to my PC, how do i read the drive?
[09:13] <CShadowRun> its ntfs
[09:13] <Mena_> What is the best refreh rate for 1280x1024 any one know
[09:13] <Mena_> What is the best refreh rate for 1280x1024 any one know for monitor 17
[09:14] <BluesKaj> prolly around 85hz
[09:14] <argonel|kub> Mena_: its personal preference.. such that you don't see flickering
[09:14] <Mena_> argonellkub, ok :)
[09:15] <argonel|kub> for CRT, that is.. haven't noticed what refresh rate does with LCD
[09:16] <amsmith42> LCD's don't have a refresh rate.
[09:16] <Mena_> crystal heheh:)
[09:16] <Zchydem> hi, does anyone know how to make dvi work with matrox g400 (pci)?
[09:16] <argonel> true enough, but some software still seems to think you can set one :)
[09:17] <amsmith42> That's true, but it doesn't have an effect either way, I believe.
[09:17] <BluesKaj> LCDs still scan ..refresh rate can be reinterpreted as scan rate
[09:18] <amsmith42> Ah.
[09:18] <amsmith42> They poll each diode in series?
[09:19] <argonel> poll?
[09:19] <amsmith42> For lack of a better term.
[09:19] <house> BkuesKaj: adept couldn't find libpng.so.3
[09:19] <house> nor could synaptic
[09:20] <amsmith42> In order to "scan", wouldn't they be polling each diode to see if it had changed or not?
[09:20] <argonel> amsmith42: as far as i know each transistor is directly addressable
[09:20] <cpk1> if one cant find it then the other cant, they both use the same program house =)
[09:20] <BluesKaj> house, then you need to find a repos that contains that file
[09:20] <amsmith42> That's what I thought, but bkues says that LCD's scan.
[09:20] <Mena_> argonel, how to add another refrash rate on the options
[09:20] <KaoticEvil> for the first time *ever* i now have 3D hardware acceleration!! w00t w00t!!!
[09:21] <argonel> Mena_: for a CRT?
[09:22] <argonel> wonder what happened to LL_Hakaisou
[09:22] <morvok> Anyone help with Xinerama? a screen always fails when there is an action.
[09:22] <morvok> :boggles.
[09:22] <Mena_> argonel, i dont know what CRT mean realy i am
[09:23] <Mena_> argonel, but my monitir is normal not lcd
[09:23] <argonel> Mena_: thats a CRT then (cathode ray tube)
[09:23] <morvok> Mena_ thats a CRT
[09:23] <Mena_> argonel,  ok
[09:23] <Mena_> argonel,  then
[09:23] <Mena_> :)
[09:23] <BluesKaj> house, were you trying to install cedega?
[09:23] <argonel> Mena_: available refresh rates are dependent on what your monitor can do, and what your video card can do
[09:24] <argonel> Mena_: is your xorg.conf manually created, or automatic?
[09:24] <Mena_> argonel, you mean edit it  i edit it beofr for resolution
[09:24] <Mena_> argonel, but i dont creat it manauly if you mean creat it
[09:25] <Mena_> argonel, when i edit i dont have a section for reefresh rate
[09:25] <Mena_> argonel, if you mean that
[09:25] <Mena_> argonel, sorry i am not good in Xserver  things
[09:25] <argonel> Mena_: so you added some resolutions to xorg.conf?
[09:26] <Mena_> argonel, i removed and add just one i need
[09:26] <BluesKaj> xorg.conf is auto ..and it autobacks up when changes are made so if you screwup X you can revert to previous vesion that works ... I know this first hand :)
[09:26] <argonel> Mena_: well, the video preferences panel should allow you to choose a refresh rate
[09:26] <house> BluesKaj : no, I am trying to install a script for amarok that converts flac files to mp3
[09:26] <argonel> BluesKaj: ha, except when it doesn't :p
[09:27] <BluesKaj> house, hang on ...I have something you might be able to use
[09:27] <Mena_> argonel, i just have 60 for 12801024
[09:28] <Mena_> and i also have others resolutions athough i remove them fro the xorg.config
[09:28] <Mena_> from*
[09:30] <BluesKaj> house , see if adept or synaptic has this in the repos ; gnormalize - version 0.52
[09:30] <argonel> Mena_: i'm trying to see if there is a utility that can do this for your, the manual method of adding refresh rates is a bit of a pain
[09:30] <Mena_> argonel, oky
[09:31] <Mena_> okay*
[09:31] <argonel> Mena_: was 1280x1024 not available by default?
[09:31] <Mena_> argonel , yes
[09:32] <argonel> Mena_: yes it was, or "yes, it was not"? (sorry, asked the question badly :)
[09:32] <Mena_> argonel , no it wasnt
[09:32] <argonel> Mena_: was anything higher available?
[09:32] <Mena_> argonel , no lower
[09:33] <Mena_> argonel , 1024768
[09:33] <Mena_> that was befor
[09:33] <argonel> Mena_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[09:34] <Mena_> ok
[09:35] <argonel> Mena_: it may not be possible, depending on your monitor
[09:35] <Mena_> argonel , i think its can bec i can on Xp
[09:40] <birgstef> nabend zusammen
[09:40] <birgstef> ger support?
[09:42] <Apallo> how do i download a package without installing it?
[09:42] <birgstef> holger?
[09:42] <|GaiJin|> why would my system not restart apache2 when using /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, but I havd to use the /usr/sbin/apache2 to start it??
[09:43] <|GaiJin|> apt-get --help, and read for it... think it's --fetch-only
[09:44] <Apallo> thanks
[09:44] <birgstef> any german here ?
[09:47] <KaoticEvil> what exactly is Beryl?
[09:47] <Adydas> !beryl
[09:47] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:47] <KaoticEvil> ooooooooo......... so its like Aero for X?
[09:47] <Adydas> check out this
[09:48] <Adydas> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI&mode=related&search=
[09:48] <Adydas> best " shows " you what it looks like
[09:48] <stephan22222_> hmm
[09:48] <stephan22222_> i updated from dapper to edgy
[09:48] <Erunno> birgstef: I speak german
[09:48] <stephan22222_> dpkg: xserver-xorg: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:
[09:48] <stephan22222_>  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics depends on xserver-xorg (>= 7.0.0).
[09:48] <stephan22222_>  xserver-xgl depends on xserver-xorg; however:
[09:48] <stephan22222_>   Package xserver-xorg is to be removed.
[09:48] <stephan22222_> and everything is now broken
[09:49] <birgstef> Erunno, hi, danke hab glaub ich das Problem selber behoben *g*
[09:49] <Apallo> how do i make a samba share writeable?
[09:49] <Erunno> birgstef: kk :)
[09:50] <KaoticEvil> ok, now i want it
[09:50] <birgstef> irgendwie ist Linux, eine Welt fr sich *g* ... aber wenns einmal luft, lufts :-P
[09:50] <KaoticEvil> think a GeForce FX5200 will run it?
[09:50] <stephan22222_> can i do anything to rescuce my system?
[09:51] <BluesKaj> !de | birgstef
[09:51] <ubotu> birgstef: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:51] <birgstef> ty blues
[09:51] <reldruh> Apallo: When you mount it, the fmask option controls the permissions
[09:52] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_,don't install xgl , until you have your xserver-xorg file error free
[09:52] <BluesKaj> #To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type
[09:52] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:52] <Apallo> fmask?
[09:53] <tamara> lallaa
[09:53] <reldruh> Apallo: yes, fmask. How are you accessing the share?
[09:53] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj: I cannot do anything a the moment, i have done a dist-upgrade, a it is broker
[09:53] <Apallo> mounting it through fstab
[09:53] <Adydas> what fixes that api missmatch error for x again?
[09:53] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj: can i remove xgl in tis state?
[09:54] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_, do you have access to synaptic?
[09:54] <Apallo> when i try to access it through remote places it tells me that the folder doesn't exist
[09:54] <reldruh> Apallo: perfect, that's the same way I do it. So your line in fstab looks something like this: //server-name/share-name /mount/point smbfs options=value 0 0
[09:54] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj, adept & aptitude
[09:55] <reldruh> tells you it doesn't exist...
[09:55] <Apallo> up to options, yes...
[09:55] <reldruh> Apallo: that sounds like a problem with samba, not how you're mounting it. If you can't access it over smb:/ then I think you need to look at your smb.conf file
[09:56] <Apallo> it sort of works through fstab...i just can't write to it
[09:56] <Apallo> it's a fat32 patrition, so i shouldnt be having problems with compatibility right?
[09:56] <reldruh> OK, then where I put options=value, replace it with fstab=777 or whatever you'd like your permissions to be
[09:56] <reldruh> Apallo: I'm really not sure, I run a linux-to-linux samba share, ext3
[09:57] <stephan22222_> its my work pc and i need it tomorrow thats realy annoying
[09:57] <stephan22222_> apt-get install -f stops
[09:57] <stephan22222_> any idea??
[09:57] <stephan22222_> please
[09:57] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_, open adept and click on adept/safe upgrade
[09:57] <ollie> hi, im having trouble re-compiling amarok with mtp support
[09:57] <ollie> my libmtp appears to be working ok, as i can do an mtp-detect
[09:57] <ollie> make fails with errors
[09:58] <ollie> on what looks like the mtp section of the make
[09:58] <Apallo> where can i find a breakdown of the permissions options?
[09:58] <saka> need some quick help....how do i look at what processes are running? i thought there was a GUI i could look at and choose "kill"
[09:58] <ollie> man chmod
[09:59] <ollie> ps -ef
[09:59] <parkerw207> Is there a channel on here for the ubuntu server addition?
[09:59] <stdin> !permissions
[09:59] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:59] <ollie> saka  ps -ef
[09:59] <stdin> parkerw207: #ubuntu-server maybe
[09:59] <parkerw207> thansk stdin
[09:59] <ollie> saka: then kill -15 <pid>
[09:59] <parkerw207> #ubuntu-server
[09:59] <parkerw207> ooops
[10:00] <Apallo> thanks :)
[10:00] <saka> thx, but there i no way to do it in a GUI type thing?
[10:01] <reldruh> Apallo: no problem. I'm sure there's a better way to do this, but that's the best I've found. My only request is that if you find a better way, would you please let me know?
[10:01] <|GaiJin|> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:01] <|GaiJin|> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:01] <|GaiJin|> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[10:01] <|GaiJin|> what does this mean??
[10:01] <eMaX> hey
[10:01] <eMaX> short question: does mount -t smbfs require some additional package to be installed?
[10:02] <reldruh> eMaX: mount and smbfs (smbfs isn't installed by default in kubuntu
[10:02] <reldruh> eMaX: if you try, you'll get some weird error message, with a dmesg tail or something
[10:02] <eMaX> tnx oh yes just seen it.
[10:02] <reldruh> eMaX: installing smbfs is the fix for that
[10:02] <eMaX> excellent thank you
[10:03] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj, i could remove some broken packages with adpet
[10:03] <reldruh> eMaX: no problem; it took me a month to figure that one out. Glad I could help you do it faster :-)
[10:03] <ollie> hi, im having trouble re-compiling amarok with mtp support
[10:03] <ollie> my libmtp appears to be working ok, as i can do an mtp-detect
[10:03] <ollie> make fails with errors
[10:03] <ollie> on what looks like the mtp section of the make
[10:03] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_, good , do it
[10:04] <BluesKaj> better still , fix them if possible
[10:04] <Apallo> i keep getting a permission denied error
[10:04] <Apallo> erm, access denied that is
[10:05] <Apallo> will changing the mountpoint do anything?
[10:05] <birgstef> !de
[10:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:05] <birgstef> hm
[10:06] <saka> I have a process taking up 100% of my cpu and I;d like to find out, is there an app i can open to see how much certain programs are using?
[10:06] <Mena> aragonel, are you here
[10:06] <rob-west> can cedega see .cue files
[10:07] <BluesKaj> stephan22222_, if you can try to install Synaptic , it has better a system for fixing broken pkges
[10:07] <Apallo> !ubotu ksysguard|saka
[10:07] <ubotu> saka: ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 485 kB, installed size 1564 kB
[10:07] <stdin> saka: you can use top (in a term) or ksysguard
[10:07] <stephan22222_> xgl
[10:07] <stephan22222_> sorry
[10:08] <stephan22222_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:08] <stephan22222_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed.
[10:08] <KaoticEvil> anyone here have Beryl running?
[10:08] <Mena>  hey i will pastebin the config file okay and see plz the monitor section and see if it was rught bec i add the last lines to it can some se it
[10:08] <stdin> stephan22222_: make sure you have ubuntu-standard and kubuntu-desktop installed
[10:09] <saka> stdin: you are my hero
[10:09] <stdin> :)
[10:10] <argonel> does adept suck less in feisty?
[10:10] <Mena> argonel ,
[10:10] <stdin> argonel: it sucks a but less, yeah
[10:11] <Mena> argonel , woul you see my config
[10:11] <argonel> man, that thing pisses me off
[10:11] <argonel> Mena: sure, link?
[10:11] <stdin> argonel: I never use it
[10:11] <Mena> argonel , sec plz
[10:11] <argonel> stdin: i used it because i figured i'd give everything kubuntu a shot
[10:11] <argonel> too bad it just doesn't work
[10:12] <stdin> I use synaptic or apt-get/aptitude
[10:12] <argonel> i just use apt-get and apt-cache
[10:12] <argonel> no fancy tools for me :p
[10:13] <stdin> don't want fancy tools? use wget and dpkg :P
[10:13] <argonel> don't get me wrong, i'd use a fancy tool if one existed that actually worked
[10:13] <stdin> (the Red Hat way)
[10:13] <argonel> stdin: err, did that for a while, wasn't fun :p
[10:13] <Mena> argonel , http://pastebin.com/891747
[10:13] <stephan22222_> BluesKaj, the package (xserver-xorg) is marked BROKEN (upgradable) in adept
[10:13] <argonel> stdin: had a system that couldn't be upgraded, had to use snapshot.debian.net and dpkg -i
[10:13] <Mena> argonel , i diidnt save yet
[10:14] <stephan22222_> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[10:14] <stephan22222_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:14] <stephan22222_> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[10:14] <stephan22222_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:15] <stephan22222_> but how to do the reinstall?
[10:15] <stdin> stephan22222_: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg"
[10:17] <Mena_> argonel , and also if there a way to reset every thing to the normal as i just installed kubuntu for the Xorg bec now i am confused and cant concetrat right on what to do
[10:18] <stephan22222_> stdin: next error ist
[10:18] <stephan22222_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:18] <stephan22222_>   python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)
[10:18] <joyrider> Hi all, I need a program to burn audio cd's from MP3 files, and it should be able to print out covers with track information - artist - title - duration :)
[10:19] <argonel> Mena_: well, the way to do that would be to replace the original xorg.conf
[10:20] <Mena_> argonel , and if i remove it , it wil lcreat a new one on next login
[10:20] <Mena_> will*
[10:20] <tackat> joyrider: k3b+amarok
[10:20] <argonel> Mena_: it might, i wouldn't guarantee it would work
[10:20] <Mena_> hehehe so
[10:21] <Mena_> argonel , is there a command i cat do if it doesnt
[10:21] <tackat> http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble12.png
[10:21] <Mena_> argonel , i will not have a screen then right
[10:21] <argonel> Mena_: if you don't have a copy of the original, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:21] <stdin> stephan22222_: hmm, that's strange, it shouldn't depend on python2.4-gdbm
[10:21] <joyrider> tackat: can amarok print out joliets?
[10:21] <Mena_> argonel , the orginal is that i last edit it befor
[10:22] <Mena_> or another one
[10:22] <Mena_> like backupe from first time of using
[10:22] <argonel> Mena_: the
[10:22] <stdin> stephan22222_: can you post the output of "apt-cache policy python-gdbm" to http://pastebin.ca and post back the url
[10:23] <argonel> Mena_: the "original" in this case is the file that was in use before you started editing to add the new refresh rates
[10:23] <tackat> joyrider: I thought it could, but I guess I'm wrong
[10:23] <eMaX> short question: when I change the group id of a group in /etc/group from 1001 to 1003, and then use chgrp to change the group of a given file, it still reflects the old gid. why?
[10:23] <joyrider> tackat: it can print out covers - but not the covers i need, it's more like a tracklist i need?
[10:23] <Mena_> argonel , okay good
[10:23] <Mena_> argonel , then after copping
[10:23] <Mena_> argonel , and removing and if it didnt work
[10:24] <Mena_> argonel , what command to make it use the copy i have
[10:24] <jhutchins> eMaX: Why are you doing this?
[10:24] <Mena_> Sorry for stress on you :D
[10:24] <argonel> Mena_: cp the-backup xorg.conf
[10:24] <eMaX> I want to keep group id's in sync within two operating systems
[10:24] <argonel> Mena_: unfortunately the pastebin you provided the link to doesn't appear to work
[10:25] <Mena_> argonel ,hmmmmm no prob
[10:26] <muuhBDXi> COULD SOME ONE READ MY FORTUNE ?
[10:26] <Mena_> argonel, any way i decided to forget it for now
[10:26] <Mena_> argonel, its working
[10:26] <argonel> Mena_: ok :)
[10:26] <Mena_> argonel, :) ok
[10:26] <Mena_> argonel, thanks :)
[10:27] <fost00> SALUT QUI EST FRANCAIS ?
[10:27] <stdin> !fr
[10:27] <BluesKaj> !fr
[10:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:27] <fost00> thanks you
[10:28] <jhutchins> eMaX: Try using the numeric gid with chgrp.
[10:30] <stephan22222_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:30] <stephan22222_>   python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)
[10:30] <stephan22222_> could someone explain my this?
[10:33] <stephan22222_> is it possible that my sources.list is broken?
[10:33] <stephan22222_> where can i get a working one?
[10:33] <stephan22222_> in which repository ist python2.4-gdbm ?
[10:34] <Mena_> stephan22222, are you edgy
[10:34] <Fogge> i think i have a problem with encoding in Konversation, where do i make settings for utf/iso?
[10:35] <argonel> Fogge: you can set it per channel, right click on the tab (or line in the treelist)
[10:35] <SolidSource> question: Kontact or Thunderbird?
[10:35] <argonel> Fogge: you can also set an encoding per identity
[10:36] <Fogge> but its iso 8859-1 on all channels, and yet my swedish characters arent working
[10:36] <argonel> Fogge: aren't working in what way?
[10:36] <stdin> SolidSource: I like Thunderbird more, but it's GTK so your choice
[10:37] <Fogge> they show up as little squares on my monitor, and they arent recieved properly by other people
[10:37] <SolidSource> stdin: dpm
[10:38] <SolidSource> stdin: hmm GTK have a bug or something?
[10:38] <argonel> Fogge: if there is another konversation user, find out what encoding they're using
[10:38] <argonel> Fogge: each channel often has its own "rules"
[10:38] <stdin> SolidSource: no, but it means you hake to install all the GTK libs, because Kubuntu (KDE) uses Qt
[10:39] <Fogge> But the problem persists in every channel
[10:39] <SolidSource> stdin: hmm, I use other GTK programs, so already have it anyway
[10:39] <argonel> Fogge: sadly, i can't help you as well as others might, i'm Canadian and so don't use extended characters much ;p
[10:40] <Fogge> I figured that would be a problem, and most people in Ubuntu-se dont use Konversation :)
[10:40] <stdin> SolidSource: then you don't have a problem :P Thunderbird is nice
[10:40] <argonel> Fogge: try utf-8
[10:40] <Fogge> Problem persists, already tried.
[10:40] <KaoticEvil> hey... anyone care to try lending me a hand?
[10:40] <argonel> Fogge: join #konversation
[10:41] <stdin> Fogge: you can ask in #kunversation too
[10:41] <KaoticEvil> i installed the binary driver form nvidia, and now when my computer boots, KDM doesnt start
[10:41] <beg1689> hey guys
[10:41] <KaoticEvil> i have to login and then manually start X
[10:41] <beg1689> i need help with my network settings
[10:41] <Cugel> beg: uh oh.
[10:41] <beg1689> im trying to get a static IP (<IP_ADDRESS>) but if i use the kde contrl center to set it, and click apply, it goes right back
[10:41] <beg1689> wired network* dot worry
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> is kubuntu less popular that ubuntu ?
[10:42] <beg1689> yes
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> ehy ?
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> why ?
[10:42] <beg1689> but kubuntu is ubuntu
[10:42] <Cugel> Well KDE is popular enough.
[10:42] <Cugel> I think they're about as popular. Any stats on that?
[10:42] <beg1689> yea part of the reason is because kubuntu, xubuntu, etc ARE ubuntu
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> eniuhg ?
[10:42] <SolidSource> stdin: well the real questiion was if there was any benefit of thunderbird over kmail/kontact
[10:42] <muuhBDXi> enough ?
[10:43] <beg1689> i prefer kde
[10:43] <Cugel> I like Thunderbird, but I was used to it on Windows. It's an excellent e-mail client.
[10:43] <stdin> SolidSource: I have found kamil to be a bit buggy, not so much with TBird
[10:43] <beg1689> actually i like e17
[10:43] <stdin> *kmail
[10:43] <BluesKaj> Cugel, t-bird rocks in kubuntu as well
[10:43] <beg1689> but i cant get everything to work right with it
[10:43] <beg1689> maybe when the final version comes out
[10:44] <beg1689> but by that time kde4 will be out, so itll still be a tough choice
[10:44] <cpk1> I like kmail; kontact is a nice little client
[10:44] <Cugel> Blues: agreed. And automatic forwarding (filtering) actually worked, which it didn't on Windows. But please stay on-topic.
[10:44] <jhutchins> beg1689: Final version? Of what?
[10:44] <beg1689> e17
[10:44] <Cugel> Just a question: what on earth is the purpose of the wallet in Kubuntu? It just annoyed the hell out of me every time it opened. I got rid of it in the end.
[10:44] <jhutchins> That's the wonderful thing about OS software, there never is a final version.
[10:45] <bart__> hi there
[10:45] <beg1689> there is a final version
[10:45] <Cugel> Hi bart.
[10:45] <bart__> im a new ubuntu user, and i would like to connect to quakenet :'(
[10:45] <beg1689> not in the since that its the *last* version
[10:45] <beg1689> maybe i mean realease version
[10:45] <Cugel> bart: doesn't work? Strange if your network is okay.
[10:45] <beg1689> i want the final release version
[10:45] <beg1689> its alpha right now
[10:46] <bart__> nah
[10:46] <bart__> i just dont know how to connect to it :P
[10:46] <stephan22222_> he following packages have unmet dependencies.
[10:46] <stephan22222_>   python-gdbm: Depends: python2.4-gdbm (>= 2.4.2)
[10:46] <stephan22222_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).
[10:46] <bart__> im an irc newb
[10:46] <bart__> i can work with mirc
[10:46] <Ertain> Might anyone help me with my Wacom tablet?  Every time I boot up my tablet is recognized as a mouse.  I did change the udev rules for my Wacom tablet to load before my mouse, but it still doesn't work properly.  When I try it in Gimp it doesn't see my tablet.  I have a Graphire 4 tablet.  Any ideas?
[10:46] <Cugel> beg: edit the source and add the word "FINAL, 1.0, created by beg1689!!!' to all popup windows.
[10:46] <stephan22222_> this is crazy
[10:46] <Ertain> !wacom
[10:46] <beg1689> anyway... back to my problem
[10:46] <KaoticEvil> ok, whats goin on here?
[10:46] <Cugel> bart: no problem.
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <beg1689> i want to change my local network connection from dhcp to static
[10:47] <stephan22222_> how is it possible the python2.4-gdbm has unmet dependencies?
[10:47] <Cugel> beg: go to system settings and network, you can change it therre.
[10:47] <beg1689> if i go to the control center, under network settings
[10:47] <beg1689> it doesnt work
[10:47] <bart__> Cugel
[10:47] <bart__> i think i fixed it :'(
[10:47] <bart__> hehe
[10:47] <Cugel> It doesn't? Well you have to be root.
[10:47] <bart__> should have looked myself first
[10:47] <beg1689> i click administrator, open the local netowrk, change ip to <IP_ADDRESS>, click apply, and it just goes back to dhcp
[10:47] <Cugel> Okay, good for you.
[10:47] <bart__> i got it to work
[10:47] <bart__> i dont udnerstand the root thing yet
[10:48] <bart__> ill get to that later
[10:48] <Cugel> beg: that is weird.
[10:48] <beg1689> oh wait
[10:48] <SolidSource> stdin: you use gmail...cause thunderbird not downloading mail
[10:48] <KaoticEvil> i dont have any window decorations in Beryl :(
[10:48] <beg1689> maybe i need to close the connection first?
[10:48] <beg1689> i thought thats something it would do for me
[10:48] <stdin> SolidSource: have you set gmail to enable pop, in the settings? works fine here
[10:48] <beg1689> yea gmail works fine here
[10:49] <beg1689> although i like the webbased way better
[10:49] <beg1689> pop3 grabs all the spam and stuff
[10:49] <stdin> beg1689: not on mine, the spam folder isn't downloaded
[10:49] <beg1689> acutally no i think it just grabbed archived stuff
[10:49] <SolidSource> yeah, followed the instructions on gmails site
[10:49] <beg1689> like if i archived unread stuff it grabbed it
[10:50] <beg1689> ok so im going to try my network again
[10:50] <beg1689> what the hell
[10:51] <beg1689> i click eth0, make sure it says manual, enter the ip and gateway address
[10:51] <beg1689> and click apply
[10:51] <beg1689> then it is back to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:51] <beg1689> instead of .2
[10:51] <beg1689> i tried disabling it, changing settings and applying, but i get the same result
[10:51] <fost00> !fr
[10:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:52] <stdin> SolidSource: make sure you have the right settings, Server Name: pop.gmail.com, Port: 995, User Name<EMAIL_ADDRESS>use SSL
[10:52] <SolidSource> stdin: did
[10:52] <stdin> beg1689: can you post /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin?
[10:52] <beg1689> oh maybe NetoworkManager is hogging my net info
[10:53] <Mena_> What is good about using rpm pacages
[10:53] <beg1689> nothing
[10:53] <stdin> ^ *at all
[10:53] <stdin> SolidSource: check again that you turned pop on in gmail settings
[10:54] <SolidSource> stdin: cause it works in kontact
[10:54] <beg1689> stdin: that file says the right info
[10:54] <beg1689> im gon na try resetting the connection again
[10:54] <stdin> beg1689: try "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" in konsole (if eth0 is the right interface)
[10:55] <stdin> SolidSource: strange, it's working fine for me, do you have any funky firewall rules ?
[10:55] <avalon_> Can someone help me get sound in firefox flash? I can't get it to work even after downloading and changing the sound to aoss
[10:55] <vamp898> Hi, i want to use Kubuntu on a friends PC with ISDN, but i did not find any programm for ISDN using :(
[10:56] <SolidSource> stdin: nope...firewall is turned off
[10:56] <vamp898> is any programm preinstalled on Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy to use ISDN? KPPP Maybe
[10:56] <fignew> vamp898: is it installed already?
[10:57] <vamp898> no
[10:57] <BluesKaj> avalon_, make sure you have the flash FF plugin ... type in the FF addressbar 'about:plugins'
[10:57] <vamp898> beceause im not sure that ISDN is working
[10:57] <fignew> ok, try using the alternative install CD
[10:57] <vamp898> you meen Desktop CD
[10:57] <fignew> alternative, it still installs the normal packages
[10:58] <vamp898> but with wich programm i have to use the ISDN?
[10:58] <vamp898> on SuSE i used YaST
[10:58] <avalon_> I have shockwave flash... shouldn't that be adobe?
[10:58] <fignew> KPPP
[10:58] <stdin> avalon_: adobe and shockwave are the same company
[10:59] <vamp898> kk thx
[10:59] <vamp898> thats all i wanted
[10:59] <vamp898> good n8
[10:59] <fignew> :)
[10:59] <avalon_> So the shockwave flash does work. Then how do I get sound?
[10:59] <vamp898> its now 11 pm in germany and i have to go to shool tommorow
[10:59] <vamp898> im writing a test and have to learn :D
[10:59] <fignew> what school?
[10:59] <fignew> gynasium?
[10:59] <fignew> ^spelling?
[10:59] <vamp898> are you german?
[11:00] <vamp898> fignew: do you speak german?
[11:00] <fignew> ein bischen, Ich can Deuch sprechen, aber nicht gut schrieben
[11:00] <beg1689> ok... full system restart fixed it
[11:00] <fignew> Deutsch*
[11:00] <BluesKaj> !de
[11:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:00] <beg1689> now i have a question: where is mplayer?
[11:00] <jhutchins> !mplayer
[11:00] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[11:01] <vamp898> ich geh auf ne Berufsschule, damit holt man den Realschul abschluss sozusagen nach + lernt alles Kaufmnnische (buchhaltung)i try to say this in german :D its to reget the "Realschulabschluss" and i learn how work is in a firm and learn to work with finances an something else
[11:01] <stdin> !de
[11:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:01] <rob-west> how do i install glib2.0
[11:01] <vamp898> *englisch not german
[11:01] <Fogge> Thanks for your efforts tho, argonel :)
[11:01] <vamp898> apt-get install glib
[11:01] <BluesKaj> beg1689, for the FF mplayer plugin : http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[11:02] <fignew> lol @ !de
[11:02] <vamp898> fignew: did you understand?
[11:02] <fignew> yep :)
[11:02] <vamp898> fine^^
[11:02] <beg1689> i have all the repos checked but i dont see mplayer
[11:02] <vamp898> n8
[11:02] <vamp898> Gute nacht :D
[11:02] <fignew> see ya
[11:02] <rob-west> wont work
[11:03] <Mena_> !ubotu
[11:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:03] <Mena_> !hi
[11:03] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:03] <Mena_> ~ping
[11:03] <jhutchins> beg1689: Maybe you need to update the packaeg lists?  I'm not that familiar with the GUI, I use apt.
[11:03] <Mena_> !ping
[11:03] <ubotu> pong
[11:03] <beg1689> hmm
[11:03] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:04] <beg1689> only one of them says multiverse after it, thats probly the problem
[11:04] <jhutchins> try just "sudo apt-get install mplayer" in the konsole.
[11:04] <megamaced> Hi, does anyone know how to reset the configuration of the system tray so that the icons in it are sorted in two rows?
[11:04] <jhutchins> !easysource
[11:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:05] <SolidSource> stdin: hmm don't know why thunderbird isn't working settings are all correct
[11:05] <BluesKaj> megamaced, right click on the desktop ...icons
[11:05] <stephan22222_> wow
[11:05] <stephan22222_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/58424
[11:06] <stephan22222_> seams to be my problem
[11:06] <stdin> SolidSource: I don't know either, those are the settings I use, and it works here
[11:06] <beg1689> i got it, just added multiverse to all the repos
[11:07] <megamaced> BluesKaj; thanks, but I meant the icons in the system tray!
[11:08] <BluesKaj> then configurepanel
[11:08] <megamaced> They are supposed to appear in two rows but they are only appearing in one and taking up too much space
[11:09] <NightBird> how can I check to see if my microphone is working right?
[11:09] <NightBird> what program should I use?
[11:09] <cpk1> NightBird: krec?
[11:10] <NightBird> there are so many random programs available for linux...
[11:10] <NightBird> it's great
[11:10] <kyle__> Hiya quick question.  Why would apt-get (and adept) be looking for sources I'm certain are NOT on the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[11:11] <SolidSource> stdin: oh I see why...thunderbird only wanted new messages and there were none in my box
[11:11] <stdin> SolidSource: ahh :P
[11:12] <stdin> kyle__: huh?
[11:12] <kyle__> Is there something about the sources.list I don't understand?  I've removed most everyhting from it and whenever I do an update the list is HUGE and it gets hung on one particular connection.
[11:12] <Mena_> !ar
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <stdin> kyle__: check if there is anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:13] <kyle__> stdin:  there sure is!  that's added to the download list?
[11:14] <stdin> kyle__: any file in there ending in .list is treated as another sources.list
[11:15] <kyle__> Thanks so much!  That solves most of my problem right there.  Appreciate your help.
[11:15] <stdin> no problem :)
[11:15] <Mena_> i want to edit the channel list
[11:16] <jhutchins> kyle__: You realize that there are some 20,000+ pacakages availble for kubuntu?
[11:16] <jhutchins> Mena_: channel list?
[11:17] <Mena_> yes which i choose for it the channel to coencet
[11:17] <Mena_> conect*
[11:17] <Mena_> from*
[11:18] <Mena_> maybe i will open the config file if i can edit it
[11:18] <kyle__> jhutchins: Yea.  Easyubuntu had put an additional list in sources.list.d that I wasn't aware of, which was my problem right htere.
[11:18] <stdin> Mena_: you mean what channels you auto join?
[11:18] <stephan22222_> please, can some one look at http://rafb.net/p/MH711595.html
[11:18] <stdin> Mena_: in konversation?
[11:18] <Mena_> no the channels are saved bec i also i want to save them
[11:18] <stephan22222_> and tell me where my dependey hell is comming from,? (http://rafb.net/p/MH711595.html=
[11:19] <stephan22222_> my system is totaly broken
[11:19] <kyle__> Thanks for your help, have a nice evening.
[11:19] <Mena_> stephan, why sying that
[11:19] <Mena_> saying*
[11:19] <Mena_> dont worry you are on the support channel
[11:19] <Mena_> :)
[11:19] <stephan22222_> some important repositzory is missing and i can't find out which
[11:20] <stephan22222_> its my work pc and i need it working tomorrow
[11:20] <stephan22222_> i updated form 6.06 to 6.10
[11:21] <Mena_> hey go here and tell us if you can do any thing http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[11:21] <Mena_> its a generator
[11:21] <Mena_> lets go back to my point is there a way i can save the list of channles
[11:22] <Mena_> :-(
[11:22] <stdin> Mena_: in konversation, there is a "Save list" button
[11:23] <Mena_> stdin realy
[11:23] <Mena_> will see
[11:23] <stdin> Mena_: F5, you'll see it at the bottom
[11:23] <Mena_> ok
[11:24] <stephan22222_> i generate a new souces.list
[11:25] <stephan22222_> it downloads new packages
[11:26] <Mena_> stephan22222, so its working
[11:26] <Mena_> stephan22222, but be sure that you choose what you want
[11:26] <stephan22222_> Mena_: i think i downloaded these packes before ...
[11:27] <stephan22222_> again broken
[11:27] <stephan22222_> dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):
[11:27] <stephan22222_>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[11:27] <stephan22222_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:27] <Mena_> stephan22222, So you take the list you had on the page and then paste it on the source list instead of it
[11:28] <Mena_> stephan22222, i dont know maybe its bbroken do this sudo apt-get check
[11:28] <stephan22222_> Mena_: yes
[11:28] <Mena_> stephan22222, ok
[11:28] <Mena_> stephan22222, make check
[11:29] <Mena_> stephan22222, sudo apt-get check
[11:29] <stephan22222_> Mena_: the ceck output is veeery ling
[11:29] <Mena_> is there a something with -f install
[11:29] <stephan22222_> Mena_: i pasted it here
[11:29] <stephan22222_> http://rafb.net/p/xXUj8E39.htm
[11:29] <Mena_> stephan22222, ok
[11:29] <stephan22222_> to not spam th channel
[11:29] <Mena_> ok good
[11:30] <Mena_> Error 404 - Not Found
[11:30] <Mena_> plz check again
[11:30] <Mena_> and also paste your source list
[11:32] <stephan22222_> the soureces
[11:32] <stephan22222_> http://rafb.net/p/SauBrX10.html
[11:32] <Mena_> stephan22222,ok
[11:33] <stephan22222_> Mena_: any idea?
[11:34] <Mena_> stephan22222, the source list looks good
[11:34] <Mena_> stephan22222, do this
[11:34] <Mena_> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[11:34] <Mena_> gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[11:34] <Mena_> in terminal
[11:35] <stephan22222_> Mena_: shouldn't it work without the KEYs?
[11:36] <Mena_> stdin, its ays if there errors
[11:36] <Mena_> soorry not you
[11:36] <Mena_> stephan22222, if its sying erros and also its good not bad
[11:36] <Mena_>  sudo apt-get -f install
[11:36] <Mena_> DO THSI COMMAND
[11:37] <Mena_> this*
[11:38] <Mena_> stephan22222, what happened
[11:38] <stephan22222_> output ist very long again, Mena_
[11:38] <stephan22222_> http://rafb.net/p/fBIeb896.html
[11:38] <Mena_> ok
[11:38] <stephan22222_> Preconfiguring packages ...
[11:38] <stephan22222_> dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):
[11:38] <stephan22222_>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[11:38] <stephan22222_>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:39] <Mena_> stephan22222, you just upgraded to to 6.10 right
[11:39] <Mena_> stephan22222, with out any update for it
[11:40] <Mena_> stephan22222, wright
[11:40] <Mena_> right*
[11:40] <stephan22222_> Mena_: the security updated
[11:40] <stephan22222_> and so on
[11:41] <Mena_> stephan22222, okay plz check again to kae usre
[11:41] <Mena_> sure*
[11:41] <stephan22222_> Mena_: what should i check?
[11:41] <SolidSource> stdin: can't find the setting in thunderbird to allow it to download older messages, you know where?
[11:42] <Mena_> the update with terminal do sudo apt-get update then after that sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:42] <stdin> SolidSource: I'll look
[11:42] <Mena_> stephan22222, and lit it makes upgrade if nedeed
[11:42] <Mena_> stephan22222, then the problem with xserever wil see that
[11:42] <Mena_> stephan22222,ok?
[11:43] <stdin> SolidSource: it's in the gmail settings, not TBird
[11:44] <stdin> SolidSource: choose "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)"
[11:44] <Mena_> stephan22222, is it upgrading
[11:45] <SolidSource> stdin: ah, thought I did that....and now to figure out that how to get Tbird to group messages like gmail, probably can't though
[11:46] <stdin> SolidSource: no, it can do threads, but not quite like gmail, tho you can set mail rules to do something similar
[11:46] <Mena_> stephan22222_, what happned
[11:47] <SolidSource> stdin: yeah, still gonna look to see if there is extension..out of hope
[11:47] <stdin> maybe
[11:48] <stephan22222_> Mena_: upgrade says
[11:48] <stephan22222_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:48] <stephan22222_>   amarok: Depends: libgl1-mesaor
[11:48] <stephan22222_>                    libgl1
[11:48] <stephan22222_>   beryl-core: Depends: libgl1-mesaor
[11:48] <stephan22222_>                        libgl1-mesa-gl
[11:48] <stephan22222_> and so on ....
[11:48] <Mena_> stephan22222_, ok
[11:49] <SolidSource> stdin: you can do threads in Tbird
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, after it finised
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, do thsi again
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, sudo apt-get check
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, if nothing wrong
[11:50] <Mena_> stephan22222_, do this also sudo apt-get clean
[11:50] <stdin> SolidSource: yeah, that's what I said
[11:51] <Mena_> to clean up the packages sources wich are on you hard and you dont nedd them
[11:51] <stephan22222_> check says same as before
[11:51] <SolidSource> stdin: oh misread, thought it said "can't" for some reason
[11:51] <stephan22222_> Mena_: should i try to clean now?
[11:51] <Mena_> stephan22222_, hmmm
[11:52] <Dragonhorse> Do anybody know when xorg 7.2 will be in edgy?
[11:52] <Mena_> stephan22222_, not very sure for now
[11:52] <stdin> Dragonhorse: ask in #ubuntu-devel
[11:52] <Dragonhorse> stdin ok, thanks
[11:53] <Mena_> stephan22222_, hmmm what is the problem with this xorg
[11:53] <stephan22222_> Mena_: there was noe problem before updating
[11:54] <Mena_> stephan22222_, hm
[11:54] <Mena_> take the list i will send you now
[11:54] <Mena_> okay
[11:55] <Mena_> then make autoremove to remove un needed packages
[11:55] <Mena_> stephan22222_, take the list and then delet the one you had and copy past it instead
[11:56] <Mena_> i mean the lines on the one you have
[11:57] <stephan22222_> Mena_: autoremove?
[11:57] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , not yet for now
[11:57] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , take the list i gave you
[11:58] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , sec plz
[11:58] <stephan22222_> yes
[11:58] <coreymon77> hi guys
[11:58] <coreymon77> urgent
[11:58] <coreymon77> ive got an emergency
[11:59] <coreymon77> i try to boot kubuntu and it gives me something about my filesystem not being clean and then recovering journal and stuff like that
[11:59] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , http://rafb.net/p/pZJAFk64.html
[11:59] <coreymon77> and then just stays like that
[11:59] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , copy all
[11:59] <coreymon77> how do i fix my system
[11:59] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , and past it in you source lit but first remove all you have
[12:00] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , ok
[12:00] <Mena_> this have every thing you need
[12:00] <stephan22222_> ok, i remove my, an take only the new generate one?
[12:00] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , yes copy the one i give you
[12:01] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , and paste
[12:01] <Mena_> into the source.list
[12:01] <coreymon77> can someone help me
[12:01] <coreymon77> ?
[12:01] <Mena_> !fsck
[12:01] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[12:02] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay
[12:02] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , then save it and then make sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:03] <coreymon77> my computer automatically ran fsck
[12:03] <Mena_> that will remove all app installed and you need then
[12:03] <coreymon77> but it stayed that way all day
[12:04] <Mena_> coreymon77, see thsis might help http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/12/tuning-the-filesystem-check-at-bootup
[12:04] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , what is happening now
[12:04] <stephan22222_> Mena_: just running update
[12:04] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay
[12:05] <stephan22222_> sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:05] <stephan22222_> E: Invalid operation autoremove
[12:05] <stephan22222_> autoclean
[12:05] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , sec plz we must first remove app you dont need ok
[12:05] <coreymon77> what i need is to rescue a corrupted filesystem
[12:06] <coreymon77> how do i do that
[12:06] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , its telling you autoclean
[12:06] <Mena_> if do it
[12:06] <rob-west> can i set kontact to auto check my email
[12:06] <rob-west> or no
[12:06] <stephan22222_> Mena_: to late a ran autoclean
[12:06] <stephan22222_> http://rafb.net/p/iqz3Ma59.html
[12:07] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay good
[12:07] <yaccin> !herd5
[12:07] <ubotu> herd5 is coming out very soon - change this note when it does ;)
[12:08] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , then try  sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:08] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , the command is right
[12:08] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , must work
[12:08] <stephan22222_> stephan@hongkong:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:08] <stephan22222_> E: Invalid operation autoremove
[12:08] <rob-west> can i set kmail to auto check my email
[12:09] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay you make update then upgrade
[12:09] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , now what you wont install
[12:09] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , to *
[12:09] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , with the list every thing must go fine
[12:10] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , bec i use this list
[12:10] <stephan22222_> Mena_: autoremove does not work.
[12:10] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , okay
[12:10] <coreymon77> how do i repair my file system?
[12:10] <stephan22222_>  E: Invalid operation autoremove
[12:10] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , ohh carp ... okay okay
[12:11] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , you have the list befor
[12:11] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , right
[12:11] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , http://rafb.net/p/SauBrX10.html
[12:12] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , we will do a thing one more time
[12:12] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , use this list for now just now and make then make autoremove
[12:12] <jarn> Is there a way to reverse the stereo channels?
[12:12] <Dragonhorse> Why GTK-based programs sitting in the tray get gray background for icon in tray even if they have transparent background?
[12:13] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , to remoe packages install with thi slist hope so
[12:13] <Mena_> stephan22222_ , ok
[12:13] <coreymon77> can i have some help here, this is quite an emergency here
[12:13] <Mena_> coreymon77, ask stdin
[12:13] <stephan22222_> Mena_: i copy the lsit to my sytem, do apt-get udpate, apt-get autoremove
[12:13] <Mena_> coreymon77, mayebe he know
[12:13] <stephan22222_> reigt?
[12:13] <coreymon77> stdin: are you there?