[11:20] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: sudo apt-get -s --purge remove '*-dev'
[11:20] <billybigrigger_> morning all
[11:20] <ushills> ikonia sorry, was trying to connect to nickserv
[11:20] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: NOTE the -s (does a simulation) - remove that when you're happy the command doesn't do too much
[11:20] <needhelp> popey: can it save this video? I am even unable to see the video. For me it's just a black window with a text "(no video)"
[11:20] <popey> needhelp: dunno, url?
[11:21] <tono> orck
[11:21] <tono> help
[11:21] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: i'm still getting the Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
[11:21] <needhelp> popey: http://www.bt.no/webtv/?id=14093
[11:21] <tono> ned solution for the resolution screen
[11:21] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: : hmm, let me check here
[11:21] <popey> needhelp: ugh, silverlight - give up
[11:21] <tono> can some one helpme
[11:21] <billybigrigger_> is anyone having problems viewing flash in hardy's firefox??? seems like every page im trying to view in the last couple of days just shows a grey box where the flash is supposed to be, youtube, break.com, and some other ones that are more important to me, ie trader.ca just wondering if there's a known work around for this? im pretty sure i have flashplugin-nonfree installed
[11:22] <needhelp> popey: what is sliverlight ?
[11:22] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: hah! sudo apt-get -s --purge remove '.*-dev'   (missing .)
[11:22] <popey> needhelp: microsoft product - often used for streaming video - there is no linux version
[11:22] <popey> IntuitiveNipple: that's handy!
[11:22] <IntuitiveNipple> popey: Can be dangerous too, hence the -s even for experts :)
[11:23] <m0u5e> haha why does the . make a difference? xD
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: because it is a regular expression expected, not a shell glob
[11:23] <popey> :)
[11:23] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: uh o, it removed some stuff i needed too... like blender 6__6
[11:23] <mzuverink> using file roller is there a way to make a password protected archive?
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: .* means zero-or-more of any character
[11:24] <needhelp> popey: check that link again. At the upper right corner, you can choose between Silverlight and Windows Media Player. Any chanced to save the video to my harddisc then ?
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: I *told* you to ensure it wouldn't do that before using it!!
[11:24] <demism> what app can I use to format a partition?
[11:24] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: no no i mean in the simulation it removed stuff i needed lol
[11:24] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: sorry if i didn't make that clear ;-)
[11:24] <popey> needhelp: yes, mplayer can do it
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: phew!! you gave me a heart-attack :D
[11:24] <usamahashimi> How can I create a .iso file from my ubuntu cd?
[11:25] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: If it is only selecting -dev packages, do you need the blender -dev ?
[11:25] <popey> usamahashimi: mkisofs
[11:26] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: it seems to remove the regular blender file
[11:26] <paul68> ikonia: concerning upgrade to version 8.10 I have a few questions left
[11:26] <popey> needhelp: one moment..
[11:26] <usamahashimi> popey, yes, i remember its name but I dont know the exact command, can you tell me?
[11:26] <ikonia> paul68 ok, you may want to consider joining #ubuntu+1
[11:26] <popey> usamahashimi: man mkisofs :)
[11:26] <needhelp> popey: k...
[11:27] <usamahashimi> popey, the hard way! :)
[11:27] <paul68> ikonia:  what is the difference between this chat and ubuntu+1?
[11:27] <popey> usamahashimi: well the alternative is for _me_ to read the man page
[11:27] <popey> paul68: ubuntu+1 is for the next release
[11:27] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: it removes cdbs, intltool, automake, blender, build-essential, g__-4.2, quilt, po-debconf, intltool-debian, gettext, gnucash, envy O_O;
[11:28] <notrly_owl> What kernel does hardy come with?
[11:28] <paul68> popey: I understand
[11:28] <popey> paul68: not out yet, due end of the month, once it comes out, support can be found here for that release, then we start the next release in +1 again
[11:28] <usamahashimi> popey, man mkisofs says that no manual
[11:28] <ikonia> paul68 ubuntu+1 is for 8.10 discussion
[11:28] <popey> usamahashimi: install it? sudo apt-get install mkisofs
[11:28] <error404notfoun1> i started ubuntu-server install on a machine, it asked me for the http proxy at the end of install, i don't remember proxy, so i just clicked continue, and now its scanning mirrors at 28% for the last half an hour
[11:28] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: i guess a few dev files are required... is there a way i can reassign priorities? to get rid of as many as possible, without upsetting deps?
[11:28] <niche> how would I go about identifying ordinary files, directory, and link files in /usr/bin using ls, grep, and wc commands?
[11:28] <usamahashimi> popey, it is installed
[11:28] <ikonia> error404notfoun1 do you need a proxy to get to the interenet
[11:29] <needhelp> popey: are you able to see the video when you select "Windows Media Player" on that site ?
[11:29] <popey> usamahashimi: ah, use mkisofs --help
[11:29] <popey> needhelp: yeah, hang on
[11:29] <paul68> popey: I see however my question is concerning a back up of by stuff and eventually find a way to install firefox with all my extentions without having to search for them again
[11:29] <ikonia> paul68 you can only backup your home dir - but this contains your firefox info
[11:29] <usamahashimi> popey, yes, lemme check thanks :)
[11:30] <Lycus> I'm trying to help my mom rid herself of AOL (she currently runs Ubuntu, and XP inside VMWare to use AOL, largely because of her favorites and address book on AOL) - anyone know of scripts for converting those to evolution?
[11:30] <niche> how would I go about identifying ordinary files, directory, and link files in /usr/bin using ls, grep, and wc commands?
[11:30] <paul68> ikonia: so when I install from scratch I don't have another way then reinstall all my applications
[11:30] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Use this to generate the list, then edit the file in a text-editor until it only contains the packages you want removing: dpkg-query -l '*-dev' | awk '$1 ~ /^ii/ { print $2 > "dev-packages.txt"}'
[11:30] <ikonia> paul68 correct
[11:31] <popey> needhelp: http://jwz.livejournal.com/536142.html?thread=9476430 take a look at that
[11:31] <SOG> have anyone tried those morse software for Debian and use them on Xubuntu?
[11:32] <paul68> is there a way to do this in a semi automatic way for example create a bash file with all the installation instructions for the several programs?
[11:32] <ikonia> SOG don't mix debian repos with ubuntu
[11:32] <ikonia> paul68 if it's a firefox extension it will be in your home dir and ok
[11:32] <popey> ikonia: not necessarily
[11:32] <ikonia> popey mostly
[11:32] <SOG> ikonia but isn't ubuntu based on Debian ?
[11:32] <popey> ikonia: no, not true
[11:32] <ikonia> SOG but ubuntu is not debian
[11:32] <ikonia> popey: expand on that
[11:32] <popey> ikonia: if you install extensions using the apt-get thing, they wont be
[11:32] <mzuverink> could someone point out a good how to to make password protected archives with file roller
[11:33] <ikonia> popey ahh that is vERY true
[11:33] <SOG> um... but I don't see much morse or radio software for ubuntu...
[11:33] <ikonia> SOG so it's not packaged for ubuntu yet
[11:33] <paul68> ikonia and popey is there a way to create a bash script that can install every application that I want to be installed ?
[11:33] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Then use this command (without the -s) to remove the packages:  sudo apt-get -s --purge remove $(cat dev-packages.txt | while read pkg; do echo -n "$pkg "; done)
[11:33] <ikonia> paul68 it's probably easier to just walk through synaptic and click what you want
[11:34] <paul68> if so how to do this?
[11:34] <popey> paul68: yes, using dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections
[11:34] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: alright trying thx :)
[11:34] <SOG> ikonia will that be hard to uninstall if I got one of those debian package installed? because I saw "debian package search" for download in the update manager
[11:34] <ikonia> popey won't taht fail due to different versions/package naming in 8.10 ?
[11:34] <popey> its a good start
[11:34] <ikonia> SOG try uninstalling it, see what it does
[11:35] <ikonia> popey yes, a fine starting point
[11:35] <popey> paul68: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/06/howto-backup-all-installed.html
[11:35] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: yeah there are some weird deps going on
[11:35] <needhelp> popey: I have installed mplayer. But from that site you pasted: step 3: No such file or directory. Step 4: command not found.
[11:35] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: i can't remove some of the devs without other files getting removed
[11:35] <ikonia> m0u5e: thigns depends on other things
[11:35] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: instead of using apt-get remove, you could use dpkg -r
[11:35] <popey> needhelp: it's for osx (the mac OS) so needs some changes for linux - it's a general guide
[11:36] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: would that not cause it to remove non devs?
[11:36] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: err would that allow it *not to remove non devs?
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: For what you are trying to do, I'd suggest using synaptic and filter on Installed -dev packages might be easier for you to check packages and dependencies
[11:37] <needhelp> popey: how to get mplayer_noaltivec?
[11:37] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: dpkg will only usually operate on the package(s) it is told to work with
[11:37] <popey> needhelp: you dont, just use the "mplayer" command
[11:37] <SOG> ikonia so it's not safe to install debian packages on ubuntu ?
[11:38] <ikonia> SOG no
[11:38] <c4r1o> hello everybody, i'm new to ubuntu, how can i install a package that i download and now is on my desktop?
[11:38] <paul68> popey: if I understand this procedure correctly I need to go to for example my folder backup  and run the command sudo dpkg -i *.deb is this correct?
[11:38] <ikonia> c4r1o which package is it
[11:38] <wces> What are the risks involved in upgrading to 8.10 from 8.4 today?
[11:38] <ikonia> c4r1o: was it not in the ubuntu repos ?
[11:38] <c4r1o> theme package
[11:38] <ikonia> wces it won't work
[11:38] <c4r1o> sry
[11:38] <c4r1o> is the cairo-dock one
[11:38] <c4r1o> for the bar
[11:38] <ikonia> c4r1o what format is it (tar.gz?)
[11:38] <popey> paul68: it is a general guide, i would do more research - not necessarily following that guide verbatim
[11:38] <wces> ikonia: Can you please elaborate?
[11:38] <c4r1o> it's a tar.bz2
[11:39] <ikonia> wces it could not work/break and you'd have to re-install
[11:39] <d_dyer> How do i get SWAP?
[11:39] <popey> wces: applications might break, you might lose data, your cat might burn your house down etc
[11:39] <d_dyer> !swap
[11:39] <d_dyer> NVM
[11:39] <ikonia> c4r1o: you need to untar it and read the README or INSTALL file in the package
[11:39] <paul68> popey ok
[11:39] <c4r1o> ok i'll do it now th
[11:39] <wces> ikonia:thanks for scaring me!
[11:39] <c4r1o> thx
[11:39] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: is there something the opposite of apt-get build-dep? like apt-get remove-dep? lol
[11:39] <ikonia> wces it's the truth
[11:39] <wces> popey: thank to you too
[11:40] <needhelp> popey: like mplayer -dumpstream? "Unknown option on the command line: --dumpstream"
[11:40] <ikonia> needhelp I'm using dumpstream with maplayer
[11:40] <ikonia> needhelp: what version of mplayer are you using ?
[11:40] <popey> needhelp: one minus sign, -dumpstream does work it is valid
[11:41] <RoRza> I am having problem installing a ruby gem on ubuntu
[11:41] <contarc> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d72c4048f
[11:41] <RoRza> gem install mislav-will_pa
[11:41] <RoRza> ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Errno::EACCES)
[11:41] <RoRza>     Permission denied - /var/lib/gems/1.8/cache/hpricot-0.6.161.gem
[11:41] <RoRza> yared@yared-laptop:~$
[11:41] <needhelp> popey: MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.2.3. Alright. Is there a easy way to find out what the url for the videofile is on http://www.bt.no/webtv/?id=14093 ?
[11:41] <RoRza> anyone knows why ?
[11:42] <ikonia> contarc why are you showing me that
[11:42] <popey> needhelp: you'd need to view the source, look for an asx file or similar
[11:42] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: ah, well i figured out some of the devs ... build-essential requires a single dev ... which leads to dep hell
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Like I said, create a filter in Synaptic. I just created one, it took 30 seconds. Settings > Filters > New "Installed -dev", Status tab, tick only "Installed", Properties tab, New entry = "Package Name includes -dev"
[11:42] <contarc> ikonia: apologies.  it's what i was asking about before.   unable to create `./usr/sbin/sshd': Permission denied
[11:42] <needhelp> popey: no .asx files
[11:42] <ikonia> contarc I don't remember the actual question for earlier, sorry
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Then select "Installed -dev" in the Custom Filters list
[11:43] <ikonia> contarc: ooh wait I do
[11:43] <popey> needhelp: did you switch to media player and not silverlight
[11:43] <ikonia> contarc: ls- la /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:43] <ikonia> contarc: ls -la /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:43] <RoRza>     Permission denied - /var/lib/gems/1.8/cache/hpricot-0.6.161.gem
[11:43] <contarc> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       358740 May 14 16:27 /usr/sbin/sshd=
[11:43] <contarc> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       358740 May 14 16:27 /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:44] <ikonia> contarc Hmmm it already exists, have you tried remocing it
[11:44] <ikonia> removing
[11:44] <needhelp> popey: still no .asx. But I found a couple of lines with .swf. One of them being: var so = new SWFObject("/template/ver1-0/flash/webtv/scroller.swf", "sotester", "1175", "110", "8", "#FFFFFF");
[11:44] <RoRza> anyone know I get this message when I load try to "rubygem"
[11:44] <contarc> the first one was a mistake
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: In that error report contarc gave, there is a leading *dot* in the path reported !
[11:44] <popey> needhelp: if this doesnt work then there are firefox extensions which can do similar
[11:44] <contarc> the "=" should not be there
[11:45] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple good eyes !
[11:45] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: ./usr/sbin/sshd
[11:45] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: stunning eyes
[11:45] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: I've learned, when its a paste, every dot counts :)
[11:45] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple I simpley didn't notice, it, but the question is....why
[11:46] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: not sure how he gets to that point, wasn't following... I just join the dots :)
[11:46] <c4r1o> ikonia isn't there a way to install the cario-dock package from synaptics
[11:46] <ikonia> c4r1o don't konw, don't use it
[11:46] <contarc> this is feisty server
[11:47] <c4r1o> couse using the terminal is really hard to me :-(
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: I know what the error is
[11:47] <niche> Hey guys, what commands do I need to type to find out how many ordinary files, directories, and link files that exist in my /usr/bin directory???
[11:47] <edmoore> hi - I have just set up my headless box to my nat router. My laptop also connectors works fine. I can sssh from laptop to box, and I can ping from laptop to box. I can ping from box to laptop. I can't apt-get however, and i can't ping www.google.com from the box. any ideas?
[11:47] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple do tell
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: It depends on where the package came from though - that path is from the source package's debian/sshd.install
[11:47] <RoRza> anyone know why I get tgis error message when I try to install a gem from the Terminal ?
[11:48] <RoRza>     Permission denied - /var/lib/gems/1.8/cache/hpricot-0.6.161.gem
[11:48] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple but it's in the ubuntu repo
[11:48] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: looking at his paste
[11:48] <ushills> edmoore. have you set a dns server under resolv.conf
[11:48] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: okay, i've gone ahead and created the filter and I'm looking through these, but theres just a crapload of deps
[11:48] <wces> By the way doesn't IntuitiveNipple violate some policy realted to usernames?
[11:48] <contarc> ikonia: got it.  thanks for your help all.
[11:48] <ikonia> contarc could you explain the solution
[11:48] <ikonia> contarc: I didn't quite pickup full on IntuitiveNipple's comment
[11:49] <contarc> Does not make much sense as to why, but an apt-get clean fixed it.
[11:49] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: Feisty updates, according to packages.ubuntu.com - grabbing the source now
[11:49] <ikonia> contarc I'll have a little research
[11:49] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty-updates/openssh-server
[11:49] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple most interesting, doing teh same
[11:50] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: thx, but I think I won't be able to remove any of the deps... theres too many dependancies ... do you know if there is a way to assign aptitude to resolve the packages as smoothly as possible, potentially uninstalling only packages that have no deps that are devs?
[11:50] <contarc> http://pastebin.com/d76dae342
[11:50] <contarc> maybe that might help on the research
[11:51] <natalisushka> Hi, I want to by a laptop that is compatible with ubuntu, and ofcourse I've checked the list provided by ubuntu. I want to go for Dell Vestro 1310. The problem that there are also differences between some of the generations of vestro 1310 like in the VGA chippest. Please advice, what would you go for: An integrated Intell VGA, or NVidia external VGA?
[11:51] <jscinoz> Hi
[11:51] <ChristofferB> Hi guys, everybody doing okay?
[11:51] <ikonia> natalisushka intel
[11:51] <jscinoz> For some reason audio device hw:0 is in use, i believe this corresponds to /dev/dsp. How can i find what program is using this device? lsof | grep dsp didnt work
[11:51] <m0k0k0> sudo gdmsetup
[11:51] <m0k0k0> gdmsetup[23788]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_get_string: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
[11:51] <m0k0k0> gdmsetup[23788]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_free: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
[11:51] <m0k0k0> how can i solve that ...?
[11:51] <FloodBot2> m0k0k0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <natalisushka> ikonia, tell me why :) ?
[11:51] <Franciccio> !list
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: You'd have to write a script for that I think, that cross-referenced dependencies
[11:51] <ikonia> natalisushka open source driver support
[11:52] <natalisushka> ikonia, thanks
[11:52] <error404notfoun1> i install ubuntu-server inside a vm in vbox, and i get: http://pastebin.com/m423966bc
[11:52] <natalisushka> ikonia, does it matter if it's external or internal?
[11:53] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: Ahhh, false lead! I hadn't realised that error report came from dpkg
[11:53] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: okay thanks (i might look into it if I have that much free time... but as of now, its not worth the space I'd save :(  ) thanks though
[11:53] <ikonia> error404notfoun1 what are you trying to do
[11:53] <ikonia> natalisushka external or internal what ?
[11:53] <natalisushka> ikonia, I mean, does it matter if the VGA is integrated with the MB or not?
[11:53] <ikonia> natalisushka how do you expect to use a non-intergrated card on a laptop ?
[11:54] <m0k0k0> sudo gdmsetup
[11:54] <m0k0k0> gdmsetup[23788]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_get_string: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
[11:54] <m0k0k0> gdmsetup[23788]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_free: assertion `key_file != NULL' failed
[11:54] <m0k0k0> how can i solve that ...?
[11:54] <FloodBot2> m0k0k0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:54] <natalisushka> ikonia, NVidia isn't integrated as far as I know! intel is integrated (correct me if I am wrong)
[11:54] <ikonia> m0k0k0 you've flooded that twicwe
[11:54] <ikonia> natalisushka everything is interfrated on a laptop
[11:54] <error404notfoun1> ikonia: just practise server related things without affecting machines, i did a simple next next install and on first boot i get: http://pastebin.com/m423966bc
[11:55] <akiluu> how to disable X-server tried googleing but I'm still a bit confused
[11:55] <akiluu> smt about ctrl+alt+f1 and login as root
[11:56] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: anyways, the main point was, I want to check out intrepid beta, and was going to upgrade but my hd was out of space :(
[11:56] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: contarc: *but* the permissions issue is for *the unpack directory, which if I recall correctly, isn't /usr/sbin (it's one in /var/lib/dpkg/ or /tmp/)
[11:56] <ikonia> error404notfoun1: this is an ubuntu 8.04 server install ?
[11:56] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple correct
[11:56] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Ouch :)
[11:57] <ikonia> IntuitiveNipple: just got there myself, about 30 seconds before you posted
[11:57] <error404notfoun1> ikonia: yes
[11:57] <IntuitiveNipple> ikonia: I was trying to reproduce it
[11:57] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: yeah... i have dual boot vista & ubuntu on this top... can't remove vista until i'm sure this laptop doesn't have any more weird hd problems (cause dell will just get pissy) ... so i only gave ubuntu 10 gigs :(
[11:57] <ChristofferB> I have just installed the Gnome Global Menu applet, but it's only some apps that it `works´ with... Anybody have a clue to why?
[11:58] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: hdware*
[11:58] <ikonia> error404notfoun1 what virtualisation are you using
[11:58] <contarc> IntuitiveNipple: ikonia: right.  it's for the package on n /var/lib/dpkg/ but that's not what the rror says.
[11:58] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: I shrank Vista's partition down to about 24GB
[11:58] <error404notfoun1> ikonia: i am using virtual box...
[11:58] <ikonia> error404notfoun1 its a known issue with virtualbox
[11:59] <ikonia> error404notfoun1 tons of bugs on launchpad about it
[11:59] <IntuitiveNipple> contarc: yes it does. The error message you see is from when the data.tar.gz (that is in the .deb) is unpacked, and all the paths in the archive start ./
[11:59] <error404notfoun1> ikonia: so what should i do instead of vmware if i am migrating to oss?
[11:59] <noob-africa> greetings anyone
[11:59] <ikonia> error404notfoun1 kvm  ?
[11:59] <IntuitiveNipple> contarc: The effect is, the package can be unpacked anywhere since the path will be relative to the current directory
[12:00] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: I have other programs on vista that I sometimes use... like games :x and they take up lots of space
[12:00] <noob-africa> i have an old age problem, a usb device suffered an unclean shotdown... i cant seem to sudo mount ntfs-3t -3 .... yada yada yada .... can anyone help me?
[12:00] <noob-africa> ikonia: am glad to see you here
[12:00] <ikonia> noob-africa huh ?
[12:01] <ikonia> noob-africa if your ntfs file ssytem is corrupt you need to boot into windows and chkdisk it
[12:01] <stack_smasher> I clicked on network manager and disabled wireless networking, now how do I enable it back?
[12:01] <IntuitiveNipple> contarc: Try monitoring it; find out what the real path is it fails on by inspecting the log-file from this: "strace -o apt-get.log apt-get install openssh-server"
[12:01] <noob-africa> ikonia: can you help me do a force mount? it is an external USB portable disk, that was removed from a windows system without being fully unmounted
[12:01] <noob-africa> ikonia: it suffered an unclean removal.
[12:01] <IntuitiveNipple> stack_smasher: same thing again; it toggles the setting
[12:02] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: games? what are games? :p
[12:02] <ikonia> noob-africa you need to boot into windows and chkdisk it
[12:02] <Nic1> hello, when my mouse pointer reaches the far side of the screen, the cube effect starts and switches to other virtual desktop how can I change that "automation"?
[12:02] <new2ubuntu> netgear wg311v3 on ubuntu 8.04?
[12:02] <stack_smasher> IntuitiveNipple, the problem is now I don't see any wireless options..and btw, I have a LAN cable plugged in my ethernet port too
[12:02] <noob-africa> ikonia: so they should chkdisk it on a windows machine to fix the problem? lol
[12:02] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: you know, the things that look pretty that you can interact with... on your computer lol
[12:02] <ikonia> noob-africa yes
[12:02] <AdvoWork> hi there, trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>.put the cd in, install ubuntu, then i get: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5) followed my more stuff, any ideas please?
[12:02] <_ln> what is the .deb file for extra terminal fonts, i can't code with these.
[12:02] <ikonia> noob-africa: it's using a closed source file system
[12:03] <Nic1> hello, when my mouse pointer reaches the far side of the screen, the cube effect starts and switches to other virtual desktop how can I change that "automation"?
[12:03] <noob-africa> ikonia: i have been able to do this, before, on Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbons... havent done it on Hardy Heron yet
[12:03] <ikonia> noob-africa then do it the same, but I'm advising against it
[12:03] <H|V_3ala2> hi
[12:03] <new2ubuntu> how to install netgear wg311v3 on ubuntu 8.04?
[12:03] <IntuitiveNipple> stack_smasher: Hmmm... right-click the network-manager applet in the notification area, ensure "Enable Wireless" is ticked ... after a few seconds WiFi devices *should* appear in the network list
[12:03] <noob-africa> ikonia: ok, thanks... let me advise my colleague here, who owns the drive... u r advising against force mount or chkdisk?
[12:03] <Nic1> hello, when my mouse pointer reaches the far side of the screen, the cube effect starts and switches to other virtual desktop how can I change that "automation"?
[12:04] <Nic1> sorry bout the paste
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[12:04] <H|V_3ala2> from desktop effects screen
[12:04] <ikonia> noob-africa advising agaisnt a force mount
[12:04] <H|V_3ala2> I guess
[12:04] <m0u5e> great... cannot calculate change (for intrepid upgrade)
[12:04] <stack_smasher> IntuitiveNipple, oh wow...me and my grandiose ideas, I kept on left-clicking it...and went through countless iwconfig parameters :D thanks for reminding me this simple thing
[12:04] <noob-africa> ikonia: ok... will report back to you... am advising them what to do
[12:04] <new2ubuntu> how to install netgear wg311v3 on ubuntu 8.04?
[12:05] <Nic1> yeah but where exactly.
[12:05] <IntuitiveNipple> stack_smasher: You're not the first! *blushes*
[12:05] <new2ubuntu> how to install wifi device on ubuntu?
[12:05] <H|V_3ala2> I have a problem installing it
[12:05] <H|V_3ala2> ubuntu 8.10 fresh install
[12:05] <_ln> heh, noob-africa you're in tanzania?
[12:05] <Nic1> new2ubuntu, try a google search for that product, it's usually very well documented on ubuntu forums,
[12:05] <IntuitiveNipple> new2ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[12:06] <noob-africa> In> yes, i am
[12:06] <H|V_3ala2> kubuntu 8.10 and ubuntu 8>10 cannot be installed here
[12:06] <noob-africa> _ln> how di you know?
[12:06] <H|V_3ala2> but 8.04 works
[12:06] <Nic1> install 8;04 and upgrade it to 8.10
[12:07] <Nic1> I think 8.10 is still "beta"
[12:07] <H|V_3ala2> then I need to download the 8.04 iso
[12:07] <H|V_3ala2> i have deleted it
[12:07] <noob-africa> Nic1: is the 8.10 upgrade any better than 8.04?
[12:07] <Nic1> yeah, fast servers out there =)
[12:07] <H|V_3ala2> yhahaha
[12:07]  * md22 wonders why he feels so weird after been without windows for 2 days in a row?
[12:07] <H|V_3ala2> md22 I felt like that too
[12:08] <AdvoWork> hi there, trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>.put the cd in, install ubuntu, then i get: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5) followed my more stuff, any ideas please?
[12:08] <Nic1> I'm still on 8.04 until the updates are stable
[12:08] <IntuitiveNipple> noob-africa: He knows from a tracepath to your IP address: "18:  gw.backbone.co.tz"
[12:08] <H|V_3ala2> u know Nic1
[12:08] <_ln> noob-africa: heh
[12:08] <c4r1o> guys, .deb packages are autoinstallers right?
[12:08] <H|V_3ala2> what I really liked is kubuntu
[12:08] <_ln> IntuitiveNipple: ;D
[12:08] <H|V_3ala2> 8.10...with kde
[12:08] <noob-africa> IntuitiveNipple: Oh... i forgot about THAT! lol!
[12:08] <_ln> anyway, what is the .deb file for extra terminal fonts, i can't code with these.
[12:08] <IntuitiveNipple> noob-africa: :)
[12:08] <H|V_3ala2> it's wonderfull
[12:09] <noob-africa> IntuitiveNipple: what's with the "nipple"?
[12:09] <noob-africa> lol
[12:09] <c4r1o> .deb packages are autoinstallers?
[12:09] <H|V_3ala2> yes c4r1o
[12:09] <c4r1o> thx
[12:09] <H|V_3ala2> uw
[12:09] <md22> H|V_3ala2: i found myself coming up with a kinda excuses to use it again. non valid so far
[12:09] <c4r1o> is there any risk using them?
[12:09] <IntuitiveNipple> noob-africa: It's intuitive
[12:09] <H|V_3ala2> no
[12:09] <H|V_3ala2> it's easier
[12:09] <c4r1o> ok thx again
[12:10] <_ln> c4r1o: well, maybe if you acquired it from a source that wasn't "trusted" ;]
[12:10] <c4r1o> ok, it's not this case, thx a lot
[12:10] <H|V_3ala2> I wish all programs to be like that
[12:10] <c4r1o> couse using the terminal is really hard to me , ex windows user :-(
[12:10] <noob-africa> Workaround: If your Compaq HP nx6110 laptop suffers from the "hard disk controller failure" error, you can TRICK the data-bus into force-reading the hard drive channel by opening the CD tray during boot sequence, waiting about 5 seconds, closing it.
[12:10] <IntuitiveNipple> noob-africa: _ln is over in Nigeria... look-out for a 419 :p
[12:10] <H|V_3ala2> better than u keep typing sudos
[12:10] <bakarat> is there any way to boost sound in ubuntu? cause for some reason my music was much louder in windows then it is at max volume in ubuntu
[12:11] <c4r1o> ^^
[12:11] <_ln> IntuitiveNipple: ;[
[12:11] <_ln> IntuitiveNipple: '419'ers don't know how to grep through files ;]
[12:11] <H|V_3ala2> is it right sound lower????
[12:11] <_ln> if only they discovered grep ..
[12:11] <_ln> :\
[12:11] <H|V_3ala2> haven't noitce that
[12:11] <bEe_> hi
[12:12] <ndo> Guys, i have a question. If i copy file in command prompt, using "cp /media/usb-drive/webpage1.html /var/www/html/ndo/statisch" i get a question for overwriting. That i have to confirm with yes or no. What do i have to put in comman to set it to diffault yes? i saw "-f" in the man cp, but its not exactly what i have expected, wouldnt it be something like "-y"? but there is no "-y" in man cp. plz, ty.
[12:12] <H|V_3ala2> I use big speakers anyway
[12:12] <H|V_3ala2> with 8kwatt
[12:12] <noob-africa> This forces the BIOS to detect a new device, and then reads all devices on the same channel. Someone told me to THROW AWAY my laptop, but it works fine since I found this workarouund.
[12:12] <ikonia> ndo unalias cp from cp -i to just cp
[12:12] <ndo> ikonia: how do i do it?
[12:13] <ikonia> ndo unaslias cp
[12:13] <ndo> ikonia: ohh, oke ty
[12:13] <ndo> ikonia: love ya, have a nice day! :)
[12:13] <_ln> noob-africa: the idiot that told you to throw your laptop away is a moron, never speak to them again on any computing matter.
[12:13] <noob-africa> Question: Is anyone in here familiar with GPRS systems, how to to configure one on Ubuntu?
[12:13] <IntuitiveNipple> contarc: Have you solved your openssh-server issue now?
[12:13] <bEe_> is it possible to connect to wi-fi network right after system start up? (I must choose encryption type and enter password by hand now...)
[12:13] <dellph> hello pll.
[12:13] <ikonia> noob-africa what modem do you want to use
[12:14] <H|V_3ala2> hello
[12:14] <noob-africa> _ln: you bet! they sure are.
[12:14] <dellph> is it possible in chmod to create a permission that can create, edit files but not delete?
[12:14] <H|V_3ala2> have a seat
[12:14] <H|V_3ala2> yes I guess
[12:14] <ikonia> dellph not relaly
[12:14] <ikonia> reall
[12:14] <ikonia> y
[12:14] <noob-africa> ikonia: i want to use my GSM phone, Samsung SGH-D880, but I have to buy the data card for it on Monday, then I will be back. You familiar with GPRS systems?
[12:14] <ndo> ikonia: euhm, and how do i revert it back? :)
[12:15] <ikonia> noob-africa quite family
[12:15] <dellph> ikonia, helo.
[12:15] <ikonia> noob-africa familier
[12:15] <H|V_3ala2> permission matter is sensitive
[12:15] <H|V_3ala2> I havte it
[12:15] <ikonia> ndo alias cp 'cp -i'
[12:15] <IntuitiveNipple> noob-africa: If you use Alexander's latest network-manager 0.7 packages, setting up mobile-phone connections has become real easy.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797059
[12:15] <ikonia> dellph: hello
[12:15] <dellph> ikonia, what do you mean?
[12:15] <_ln> terminal fonts anyone?
[12:15] <dellph> ikonia, is not possible in linux?
[12:15] <_ln> Eh..
[12:15] <ikonia> dellph: not really
[12:15] <ikonia> dellph: write acess means they can delete it
[12:15] <ikonia> dellph: read access means they can't write to it
[12:15] <noob-africa> ikonia: that is good to know... i am glad
[12:16] <ndo> ikonia: ty, be well. :)
[12:16] <ikonia> ndo no problem
[12:16] <noob-africa> IntuitiveNipple: thanks, have just opened the long
[12:16] <gcday> Hello - How would I submit something that I think needs to be incorporated into ubuntu? it's the default settings for a 3g connection
[12:16] <IntuitiveNipple> noob-africa: The packages are in the network-manager PPA
[12:16] <dellph> ikonia, so  you mean its not possible in linux? but possible in windows
[12:17] <ikonia> dellph I don't know if it's possible in windows
[12:17] <ikonia> dellph: not rally possible in linux
[12:17] <jianfei> IntuitiveNipple: great name!
[12:17] <noob-africa> IntuitiveNipple: thanks... u r great
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> gcday: post a bug with the details for this package: https://edge.launchpad.net/mobile-broadband-provider-info
[12:17] <H|V_3ala2> I hate to save lots of commands
[12:17] <contarc> IntuitiveNipple: yes. thanks
[12:17] <noob-africa> Question: (Gee! I love questions and answers) How can I speed up my current network throughput. Is there a way?
[12:18] <gcday> IN - great thanks
[12:18] <IntuitiveNipple> contarc: Tell us what it was, then!?!? :)
[12:18] <marlun> I can only create sqlite databases with mergeant, not mysql or postgresql. What am I missing?
[12:18] <natalisushka> HI, is it possible to create wireless connection between two ubuntu boxes?
[12:18] <gcday> I've been having real problems getting my 3g connection to work and now I've solved it I wanted to pass it on
[12:18] <tv7497> well i was trying to install 11g on ubuntu from this tutorial http://www.pythian.com/blogs/968/installing-oracle-11g-on-ubuntu-804-lts-hardy-heron well i am stuck at the fourth step any idea
[12:18] <ndo> hmm, i've got this:
[12:18] <ndo> -bash: alias: cp: not found
[12:18] <ndo> -bash: alias: cp -i: not found
[12:19] <scientus> in evolution messages with foreign characters are all garbled
[12:19] <ikonia> ndo alias cp='cp -i'
[12:19] <scientus> i assume its utf-8 cause its gmail servers
[12:19] <H|V_3ala2> hmmmm
[12:20] <contarc> IntuitiveNipple: seems like the package got corrupted.  clearing the package cache forced a successful download which installed the necesary packages.
[12:20] <H|V_3ala2> 3hourz and 40 minuts to download the live cd
[12:20] <H|V_3ala2> hmmmmm
[12:21] <md22> one question do you guys think that silverlight will be made for other operation systems
[12:21] <craigbass1976> Is there some art to mounting samba shares these days?  I used to mount -t smbfs //ip.add.ress./sharename /mountpoint   I knew that it changed to cifs in Fedora, but not in Ubuntu initially, then I stopped running into windows boxes and didn't have to worry about it.
[12:21] <ikonia> md22 don't know, and thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:21] <H|V_3ala2> no md22
[12:21] <IntuitiveNipple> contarc: Thanks... I did wonder about that but thought if it got that far it ought to be okay
[12:21] <ikonia> craigbass1976 your command looks fine
[12:21] <hon``> file permissions on a usb-flash drive are not really a security measure. Can I get rid of them, while keeping the case-sensitivity of the file-system?
[12:21] <H|V_3ala2> silverlight is for microsoft internet exp
[12:22] <bEe_> Is it possible to autostart wifi connection?
[12:22] <md22> ikonia:sorry . let me take it into offtopic :)
[12:22] <noob-africa> IntuitiveNipple: i got to the threat, how come the "deb" command doesnt work?
[12:22] <ushills> bEe. my wifi start at bootup
[12:22] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I'm getting the infamous "wrong fs type blahblah"   The logs dmesg and messages are giving me the equivalent of blank stares
[12:22] <c4r1o> guys during the installation of cairo-dock in the very final part it tells me "Unable to connect with SVN server"....how can i fix it?
[12:22] <noob-africa> oops, i meant THREAD
[12:23] <noob-africa> lol
[12:23] <bEe_> ushills, my is asking password and encryption type :(
[12:23] <md22> where can i get docs and articles on the linux kernel ?
[12:23] <bEe_> ushills, i need just to connect to wireless network
[12:23] <ikonia> craigbass1976 make sure you have smbfs package and smb_client package installed
[12:23] <noob-africa> that was stupid of me... <KICK KICK KICK>
[12:23] <ikonia> md22 again - offtopic
[12:23] <noob-africa> it's supposed to be added somewhere, NOT a command!
[12:23] <H|V_3ala2> cairo-dock?
[12:24] <H|V_3ala2> what it does?
[12:24] <c4r1o> yes
[12:24] <H|V_3ala2> orgnize ico ns?
[12:24] <c4r1o> bar like macs
[12:24] <md22> aww ok.
[12:24] <c4r1o> yeah
[12:24] <IntuitiveNipple> noob-africa: "deb" isn't a command... you should add those lines into the file /etc/apt/sources.list as the article says, or better yet, create a new file just for them, in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/network-manager.list
[12:24] <c4r1o> scrolling icons
[12:24] <H|V_3ala2> nice
[12:24]  * md22 sees ikonia is quick on the draw
[12:24] <H|V_3ala2> u tried installin it with debian pack?
[12:24] <c4r1o> i can't connect with SVN server though
[12:24] <noob-africa> IntuitiveNipple: yea, i figured that out... silly me!
[12:24] <bakarat> is there any way to boost sound in ubuntu? cause for some reason my music was much louder in windows then it is at max volume in ubuntu
[12:24] <c4r1o> no couse SVN one has more options
[12:24] <c4r1o> if i can't do it than i try deb
[12:25] <craigbass1976> ikonia, omg, it's always something stupid...
[12:25] <ikonia> craigbass1976: easy to miss, the error message is not helpful
[12:25] <H|V_3ala2> unable to connect??>...
[12:25] <H|V_3ala2> is that realated to a timeout?
[12:26] <jeffz> hi, wacom-tools had a missing program which has been fixed in intrepid, is it likely that this fix will also be backported to hardy? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/216347
[12:26] <c4r1o> dunno...
[12:26] <craigbass1976> ikonia, well, this certainly works much better after installing smbfs
[12:26] <craigbass1976> ikonia, Thanks a bunch
[12:28] <H|V_3ala2> who had a fresh inrepid installation?
[12:28] <noob-africa> IntuitiveNipple: am now executing the command sudo apt-get update ... thanks
[12:28] <noob-africa> !define Audacious
[12:29] <noob-africa> lol
[12:29] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[12:29] <Mechdave> G'day all, anyone got any pointers on finding how to shape a DSL connection after using a predetermined amount of bandwidth? I have googled around and so far have come up with nothing concrete
[12:29] <noob-africa> I thought THIS bot knew how to !define stuff! LOL
[12:29] <alinet> is there any client for facebook
[12:29] <alinet> on ubuntu
[12:29] <alinet> ???
[12:30] <H|V_3ala2> lmfao?
[12:30] <H|V_3ala2> facebook client?
[12:30] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[12:30] <noob-africa> Offtopic: Does anyone know WHEN Adobe Illustrator CS and Photoshop CS will be ported to Linux?
[12:31] <Jeruvy> !offtopic | noob-africa
[12:31] <H|V_3ala2> when som1 pay them to mabe
[12:31] <ushills> Have you tried gimp - seems to do most things
[12:31] <noob-africa> Jeruvy: LOL... that's why I said Offtopic LOL
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> noob-africa: i'd say there's a very slim chance of that...
[12:32] <billybigrigger_> is anyone having problems viewing flash in hardy's firefox??? seems like every page im trying to view in the last couple of days just shows a grey box where the flash is supposed to be, youtube, break.com, and some other ones that are more important to me, ie trader.ca just wondering if there's a known work around for this? im pretty sure i have flashplugin-nonfree installed
[12:32] <billybigrigger_> almost all the sites i go to have flash and they all show grey boxes were flash should be...any help?
[12:32] <H|V_3ala2> hmmmmmmm
[12:32] <H|V_3ala2> tried to find an update to the plugin?
[12:33] <noob-africa> IndyGunFreak: why?
[12:33] <billybigrigger_> almost all the sites i go to have flash and they all show grey boxes were flash should be...any help?
[12:33] <billybigrigger_> whooops
[12:33] <billybigrigger_> sorry
[12:33] <billybigrigger_> H|V_3ala2: ya my system is up to date
[12:33] <H|V_3ala2> is it opera?
[12:33] <ushills> billybigrigger. you will need to install the flash non-free plugin
[12:34] <H|V_3ala2> or firefox?
[12:34] <billybigrigger_> i have flashplugin-nonfree on firefox 3.0
[12:34] <noob-africa> billybigrigger - have u installed the flash player?
[12:34] <jjulian> does somebody know if a alsa manual install will help if my soundcard doesnt get recognized right by lspci (update-pciids i already did). and i have no sound at the moment.
[12:34] <jjulian> its a ALC888s chip
[12:34] <jjulian> realtek HD sound
[12:34] <ushills> Strange, that worked for me
[12:35] <billybigrigger_> im pretty sure i have flash player
[12:35] <noob-africa> billybigrigger_: i would suggest the following (i) sudo apt-get update and (ii) sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:35] <noob-africa> billybigrigger_:  any missing dependencies will be updated and upgraded...
[12:36] <ushills> billybigrigger. search in synaptic manager for flash and check that it is install, I think there is also a reference to firefox in one of the packages
[12:36] <billybigrigger_> my system is up to date
[12:36] <Moae> hi all
[12:36] <billybigrigger_> pretty sure i said that already
[12:36] <Jeruvy> billybigrigger_: sounds like a problem with your browser, if flash isn't available, most 'flash content' detects this and directs you to installing it.  So look at why your browser is not rendering flash content, perhaps your blocking scripts
[12:36] <Moae> i have a problem that i can solve :)
[12:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Mechdave: Use netfilters marks and actions, i.e. http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.adv-filter.policing.html#AEN1393
[12:36] <Moae> i have deleted  /var/cache/debconf there is a way to restore it?
[12:37] <H|V_3ala2> hi MOae
[12:37] <noob-africa> Moae: you wrote "can", that's not a problem... it's a solution... LOL
[12:38] <Moae> sorry i want to say can't solve :LD
[12:38] <H|V_3ala2> conf??...if it's a text confguration u can write it back
[12:38] <H|V_3ala2> to the same path
[12:38] <Mechdave> IntuitiveNipple, thanks
[12:39] <Moae> the problem is that without the config.dat in the debconf directory APT doesn't work
[12:39] <H|V_3ala2> look for the file on the internet
[12:39] <noob-africa> HjV_3ala2: that depends on whether a hard copy back up was made, before the conf file was deleted
[12:40] <H|V_3ala2> hmmmmm
[12:40] <H|V_3ala2> noob,,,,,can it just be paste back?
[12:41] <H|V_3ala2> what it does anyway?
[12:41] <Moae> i restored the apt cache but i don't know if it's possible restore the deconf cache
[12:41] <noob-africa> HjV_3ala2: a LOT
[12:42] <H|V_3ala2> hmmm
[12:42] <H|V_3ala2> bad
[12:43] <clandes> hello, i think i crashed my hardy heron installation
[12:43] <H|V_3ala2> what happend clandes?
[12:43] <clandes> an installation that took me about 4 days
[12:44] <H|V_3ala2> u mean to download the cd?
[12:44] <H|V_3ala2> for sure
[12:44] <clandes> no, i mean to pimp it like i wanted it
[12:44] <H|V_3ala2> ahaaaaa
[12:44] <noob-africa> clandes: 4 days? it normally takes a maximum of 2 hours! LOL
[12:44] <H|V_3ala2> u mean u crached ur files
[12:45] <H|V_3ala2> he means he custimized the system
[12:45] <clandes> but i updated my java reader and some other plugins for mozilla, and then i rebooted and now he doesn boot anymore
[12:45] <clandes> i can log in, but after that nothing happens
[12:45] <clandes> i now working from a live cd
[12:45] <H|V_3ala2> good job
[12:45] <H|V_3ala2> hahaha
[12:45] <clandes> yes, my first time with linux
[12:45] <H|V_3ala2> but c'mon
[12:46] <H|V_3ala2> u were just installing plug ins
[12:46] <H|V_3ala2> why it crashed
[12:46] <clandes> yes
[12:46] <AdvoWork> is there a way to use a cronjob to auto ftp a file with a certain extension?
[12:46] <H|V_3ala2> hmmmmmm
[12:46] <H|V_3ala2> a virus?
[12:46] <H|V_3ala2> aliens?
[12:46] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[12:46] <clandes> i removed some plugins for mozilla because they didn work properly, en i installes some new on es
[12:47] <Moae> anyone can help me for my deconf cache problem?
[12:47] <jjulian> can somebody help me getting my soundcard to work?
[12:47] <H|V_3ala2> ANYWAYS MOZILLA is just a browser
[12:47] <carrera> Greetings!
[12:47] <H|V_3ala2> greetings ceser
[12:47] <clandes> yes i know, but i cant help the fact that he isn working anymore
[12:47] <Xerph> Starting nginx: 2008/10/10 11:44:37 [warn] 22421#0: conflicting server name "idomiausia.lt" on <IP_ADDRESS>:80, ignored  nginx. Why I'm getting that?
[12:47] <clandes> i tried to update through my terminal, wont complete
[12:47] <H|V_3ala2> tried f8 options?
[12:48] <clandes> yes
[12:48] <carrera> ubuntu 8 doesn't see my RAID-0 on a ASUS-P5E
[12:48] <H|V_3ala2> shyt
[12:48] <carrera> it shows 3 drives instead of one
[12:48] <carrera> any ideas as to why?
[12:48] <clandes> i just haven got a clue about whatś wrong
[12:48] <H|V_3ala2> hmmmmm
[12:49] <clandes> is there a way to go back like one week, set back teh configs
[12:49] <H|V_3ala2> that's what makes duel booting ness
[12:49] <clandes> hm?
[12:50] <H|V_3ala2> i mean to have 2 systems
[12:50] <clandes> well, my system was a dual boot, but i deleted the windows bot
[12:50] <clandes> boot
[12:50] <H|V_3ala2> nice....
[12:51] <H|V_3ala2> but u'll miss it
[12:51] <clandes> but is there a way to set back the configs?
[12:51] <H|V_3ala2> yea
[12:51] <clandes> why wil i miss it?
[12:51] <H|V_3ala2> from commands
[12:51] <H|V_3ala2> can't remember commands
[12:52] <H|V_3ala2> can u log on text mod?
[12:52] <jjulian> i need help with my soundcard pls
[12:52] <swapna> how do i modify glibc?
[12:52] <Dr_willis_> swapna,  tell the channel - why do you need to?
[12:52] <ikonia> swapna you don't
[12:52] <amanulla> swapna:what is glibc?
[12:53] <swapna> i want to add my own wrapper routine in glibc
[12:53] <ikonia> amanulla core c library of a linux system
[12:53] <amanulla> !glibc
[12:53] <ikonia> swapna then you should know how to modify it
[12:53] <ikonia> swapna: making ANY changes to glibc could be fatal to yous system
[12:53] <amanulla> ikonia:ok
[12:53] <ikonia> swapna: you should only really change if it you are %150 certain you know what your doing
[12:53] <H|V_3ala2> ikonia,,,,see clandes
[12:53] <amanulla> i want to run a simple c program how can i?
[12:53] <swapna> actually i m a student
[12:53] <ikonia> H|V_3ala2: pardon ?
[12:54] <swapna> we r doing a project
[12:54] <ikonia> amanulla build it, run iot
[12:54] <ikonia> it
[12:54] <H|V_3ala2> I mean if u can help him
[12:54] <swapna> for which we need to add our own routine to glibc
[12:54] <IntuitiveNipple> carrera: ICH9R uses software aka 'fake' RAID. I think it requires the dmraid kernel module to read the metadata (like the Promise Fastrak series)
[12:55] <H|V_3ala2> quit
[12:55] <amanulla> swapna:how do you run c programs?
[12:55] <amanulla> do u use nay editor?
[12:55] <amanulla> any editor
[12:55] <amanulla> ikonia:if i write a program in text editor can i run it on terminal?
[12:55] <FloodBot2> amanulla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:55] <ikonia> amanulla: if you compile it
[12:55] <swapna> amanulla: type gcc <name of prog>
[12:55] <swapna> amanulla: then type ./a.out
[12:55] <Dr_willis_> amanulla,  thats how one normally writes programs.. :) depends on the language you are using...
[12:55] <ikonia> amanulla: theer are guides on http://tldp.org on how to build software
[12:55] <carrera> IntuitiveNipple, thanks
[12:56] <carrera> then how should I set up my 3 x 500 GB drives with RAID-0?
[12:56] <esay> how can I write things in /usr/share/stardict/dic  carrera?
[12:56] <esay> root?
[12:56] <IntuitiveNipple> swapna: You'd install the glibc source, add what you need to it, adjust the makefile as needed, and rebuild it so it can be installed.
[12:56] <swapna> please someone tell me about glibc
[12:56] <ikonia> carrera I don't think thats wise
[12:56] <ikonia> swapna: what do you want to know
[12:57] <carrera> ikonia, why?
[12:57] <Dr_willis_> esay,  with use of the sudo command to do things as root...
[12:57] <esay> how can ı do root?
[12:57] <Myrtti> !root | esay
[12:57] <swapna> IntuitiveNipple: do you have any idea about how to modify makefile of glibc
[12:57] <IntuitiveNipple> carrera: If there isn't data on them already, ignore the motherboard 'RAID' and use linux md (mdsdm) to do it
[12:57] <ikonia> carrera well your root partition on a raid0 partition is asking for a dead system, plus your probably going to wantt to use fake raid which is a terrible technology
[12:57] <ikonia> swapna if you have to ask that - you shouldn't be doing it
[12:57] <ikonia> swapna: speak to your professor/teacher that your doing the project for
[12:58] <IntuitiveNipple> swapna: That's what being a student is all about - learning how to learn, and learning how to research, and learning how to do :)
[12:58] <ikonia> swapna: be aware that ANY changes to glibc could render the whole system useless
[12:58] <clandes> thyus
[12:58] <swapna> thats ok with me
[12:58] <ikonia> swapna: good luck then
[12:58] <obi_de> !ext4 | obi_de
[12:59] <akiluu> Can anyone shed some light on this Xserver business... I've been trying to run the nvidia driver installation on init 1 (root) but it tells me it can't open it :/ any ideas?
[12:59] <ktne> hello
[12:59] <obi_de> :(
[12:59] <ktne> i've just installed ubuntu
[12:59] <carrera> IntuitiveNipple, I'm building a brand new server
[12:59] <ktne> how do i install nvidia drivers 177.80?
[12:59] <H|V_3ala2> nice ktne
[12:59] <ikonia> akiluu: what is the exact error
[12:59] <ikonia> akiluu: is there a reason your not using the nvidia drivers pckaged with ubuntu
[12:59] <swapna> IntuitiveNipple: please cd u tell any link where i can get the info about modifying writing the makefile of glibc
[12:59] <noob-africa> Silly Question: Apart from impressing girls, what else is Compiz good for?
[13:00] <ikonia> swapna: come on - this is nothign to do with ubuntu now, do a google for the glibc source
[13:00] <ikonia> swapna: be aware of how much stuff links to it
[13:00] <IntuitiveNipple> swpna: you'd configure and install your glib version using --prefix=/usr/local  and possibly use LD_LIBRARY_PATH for apps that need to use it.
[13:00] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[13:00] <akiluu> ikonia not really just wanted new ones + it seemed like the ones pcked with ubuntu didn't work properly
[13:00] <reehan> hello room
[13:00] <ikonia> akiluu: in what way
[13:00] <ktne> anyone knows how to install nvidia drivers?
[13:00] <ikonia> akiluu: using new ones can make your system display not work out all
[13:01] <ikonia> ktne: open restricted drivers manager and check the nvidia check box
[13:01] <ktne> ikonia it failed
[13:01] <swapna> IntuitiveNipple: thank you
[13:01] <noob-africa> ktne: sudo apt-get install EnvyNG
[13:01] <ikonia> ktne: in what way
[13:01] <IntuitiveNipple> swapna: You can get the package using "apt-get source libc6"
[13:01] <ktne> and i want the latest drivers 177.80
[13:01] <carrera> ikonia, why is fakeRAID terrible?
[13:01] <AdvoWork> can a bash script auto ftp a file? or similar
[13:01] <swapna> IntuitiveNipple: i have downloaded the source
[13:01] <ikonia> carrera: terrible technology with bad support in general, even worse in linux
[13:01] <swapna> :)
[13:02] <IntuitiveNipple> swapna: Also, see the GNU info http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/
[13:02] <carrera> hmm...
[13:02] <ktne> ikonia:  i'm not sure, it just displayed a popup message in the hardware wizard
[13:02] <swapna> IntuitiveNipple: yeah i will
[13:03] <Dr_willis_> AdvoWork,  wget can download a file.. and you can call wget from a script....
[13:03] <juliandevwgf> i need a video converter that will convert to .wmv
[13:03] <IntuitiveNipple> carrera: I wrote an article on installing RAID + encryption; it might give you some pointers on using md: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/HardyRAID5EncryptedLVM
[13:03] <newbie> how can i access another laptop on wireless in ubuntu?
[13:04] <newbie> how can i access another laptop on wireless in ubuntu?
[13:04] <juliandevwgf> anyone know of a video converter
[13:04] <Dr_willis_> !find avid
[13:04] <amanulla> newbie:im too interested we can do the same?
[13:04] <amanulla> can we try?
[13:05] <amanulla> newbie:i too dont know lets ask the channel
[13:05] <Dr_willis_> avidemux - a free video editor - gtk version
[13:05] <juliandevwgf> thanks
[13:05] <newbie> amanulla: ya even i think so
[13:05] <carrera> IntuitiveNipple, great, thanks
[13:05] <Dr_willis_> amazing what ya find when ya use the search feature of the package manager.
[13:05] <Dr_willis_> :)
[13:05] <newbie> IntuitiveNipple: how can i access another laptop on wireless in ubuntu?
[13:05] <carrera> I'm totally confused with what is fakeRAID, softwareRAID and hardware RAID now
[13:06] <carrera> is this any good https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[13:07] <newbie> IntuitiveNipple: how can i access another laptop on wireless in ubuntu?
[13:07] <newbie> how can i access another laptop on wireless in ubuntu?
[13:07] <amanulla> can any one tell us  how can we access another laptop on wireless in ubuntu
[13:07] <Dr_willis_> newbie,  assuming wireless is working.. you can set them both to the same ssid/ip range  I think and see if they can ping eachother..
[13:07] <IntuitiveNipple> carrera: 'fakeraid' is used to describe RAID that, at boot-time, uses special BIOS functions related to the controller, and once an OS is loaded, uses a special driver.
[13:08] <Dr_willis_> You may want to isntall a dhcp server on one of the wirless machines.
[13:08] <russarleo> hi
[13:08] <noob-africa> amanulla: it depends on your network settings... is the other laptop part of the peer to peer network?
[13:08] <newbie> yes noob-africa
[13:08] <amanulla> Dr_willis_:any commands to install dhpc?
[13:08] <Dr_willis_> amanulla,  look in the package manager for the dhcpd server
[13:08] <noob-africa> amanulla: if it is configured on the LAN, well, then it is possible to access... by setting up shared folders
[13:08] <carrera> IntuitiveNipple, what are softwareRAID and hardwareRAID pls?
[13:09] <amanulla> noob-africa:i dont know im now in india
[13:09] <baldur_> hey one question is it a commom proplem that firefox crashes when under alot of pressure from time to time ???
[13:09] <amanulla> newbie:where r u from?
[13:09] <Dr_willis_> setting up the 'shares' would be done after you get the box's just pinging each other.. :)
[13:09] <newbie> india amanulla
[13:09] <noob-africa> amanulla: is the other laptop in the same building? are you connecting to the same gateway?
[13:09] <swapna> IntuitiveNipple: how can i access another machine on wireless network?
[13:10] <ljsoftnet> is there a ubuntu alternative to deep freeze software?
[13:10] <russarleo> 没有中文的么
[13:10] <juliandevwgf> is there another one besides avidemux. its not giving me a wmv option
[13:10] <Dr_willis_> ljsoftnet,  it would be wiorth while to tell us what 'deep freeze' does
[13:10] <noob-africa> russarleo: is that chinese or japanese? or korean?
[13:10] <amanulla> newbie:state?
[13:10] <JuJuBee> I have 2 computers that are not starting nis at boot.  Where to I look to fix this?
[13:10] <noob-africa> Dr_willis_: exactly
[13:10] <Dr_willis_> juliandevwgf,  wmv is a rather hated 'format' technically i think wmv is just a conatiner for other codecs..
[13:10] <Dr_willis_> !wmv
[13:11] <amanulla> noob-africa:i want to acess newbie system
[13:11] <IntuitiveNipple> carrera: software RAID is basically the same as 'fakeRAID', but is also a term for OS-prepared RAID such as md (mdadm). Hardware RAID is when the disk controller does all the RAID work behind the scenes and the OS doesn't know anything about it, or need to get involved with special driveres
[13:11] <juliandevwgf> well
[13:11] <amanulla> newbie:r u ok with it?
[13:11] <juliandevwgf> i need to convert a vob file into a file that will play in windows for a presentation
[13:11]  * Dr_willis_ wonders if amanulla  and newbie  are even in the same geographical area
[13:11] <juliandevwgf> ive spent hours and still cant seem to do it
[13:11] <noob-africa> amanulla: are you in the same building> is newbie's system set up for remote access?
[13:11] <newbie> amanulla:  sorry, but i am not ok with it
[13:11] <ljsoftnet> Dr_willis its a software that when you change something in the OS, when you restart your OS everything will be back to its default state
[13:11] <Dr_willis_> juliandevwgf,  avi will work.. as will dozens of other formats.
[13:12] <IntuitiveNipple> newbie: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[13:12] <Dr_willis_> juliandevwgf,  with vlc/mplayer/nero player  under windows.. you can play the .vob
[13:12] <newbie> IntuitiveNipple: thank u
[13:12] <juliandevwgf> when i convert it, windows cant read it
[13:12] <ljsoftnet> Dr_willis what i mean about default is, the setting when you first frozen the OS
[13:12] <Dr_willis_> juliandevwgf,  i would be sure to install all the proper codecs you need under windows.
[13:12] <juliandevwgf> ok
[13:12] <amanulla> newbie:any how its ok
[13:12] <amanulla> i may try with some other
[13:13] <juliandevwgf> well im headed to work. il be back on here in 20 min
[13:13] <swap> i want to setup a lan on ubuntu
[13:13] <swap> please can someone help me
[13:13] <carrera> IntuitiveNipple, thanks. So my ASUS-P5E doesn't offer hardwareRAID?
[13:13] <Dr_willis_> swap,  tell the channel.. wired or wireless networking?
[13:14] <akurei> carrera: mine does
[13:14] <swap> wireless Dr_Willis
[13:14] <IntuitiveNipple> carrera: It depends on which chip-set the motherboard has, but generally, it appears ICH9 is 'fakeRAID'
[13:14]  * Dr_willis_ said 'tell the channel'
[13:14] <Dr_willis_> :)
[13:14] <carrera> akurei, are u using an ASUS-P5E?
[13:14] <Dr_willis_> I dont do wireless swap  so good luck.
[13:15] <swap> Dr_Willis thats ok ,thank u
[13:15] <Caveman> swap:
[13:15] <Caveman> swap: what kinda wireless
[13:15] <Caveman> any crypto?
[13:16] <akurei> oh sorry... i'm using Asus P5N32-E
[13:17] <PEAKTOP> want to move ubuntu (established through wubi) at realnyrealny hdd = \
[13:21] <alonggorn> Hi
[13:24] <Klej> maybe someone knows any free shell for psybnc and eggdrop ?
[13:24] <ikonia> Klej: maybe you shouldn't ask in here
[13:25] <craigbass1976> Ok, what gives... I've got a folder on XP Pro shared out wide open as far as I can tell.  I can mount it up on linux, can ls and see the files (which have permissions of -rwxrwSrwt 1 root root) but I can't read them
[13:27] <stork> hey guys, I just created a new username but every time I log in as that username over ssh or into a terminal, that user doesn't get a bash shell by default, just some fairly featureless shell. How can I make the user automatically get a bash shell?
[13:28] <|MUSE|> My computer shares are accessible from other computers, but I am not able to see any windows shares on any other computer from mine. What do I have to do to fix this?
[13:28] <craigbass1976> stork, You have a profile?
[13:28] <Slart> stork: have you checked what shell the user is set to use in /etc/passwd?
[13:28]  * d_dyer is tired :(
[13:28] <stork> I'm not sure, I just called `useradd -d /home/alex alex`
[13:29] <craigbass1976> |MUSE|, well, I'm about to lob grenades at every windows box here (at work)  maybe you could do the same.. Sharing in windows blows... >:|
[13:29] <lw0x15> d_dyer: same had 3hours of sleep 4 hours of college and going to have like 3-4 hours of very busy work today
[13:29] <AdvoWork> how can i upgrade firefox from the terminal? is it even possible?
[13:29] <ikonia> craigbass1976 the permissons on your share looks most odd
[13:29] <ikonia> AdvoWork ubuntu will offer you new packages when new ones are available
[13:29] <stork> okay, I changed the users shell. Why would the default shell be /bin/sh and not /bin/bash anyway?
[13:30] <BlueEagle> AdvoWork: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:30] <|MUSE|> craigbass1976: I have afew grenades lying around. Sounds like a good plan. :)
[13:30] <BlueEagle> AdvoWork: That will upgrade all availible packages.
[13:30] <jrib> stork: how did you create the user?
[13:30] <Slart> stork: no idea.. some basic setting for all new users created.. most users are services of some kind after all
[13:30] <stork> `useradd -d /home/alex alex`
[13:30] <jrib> !apt > AdvoWork
[13:30] <stork> ah good point Slart
[13:30] <jrib> stork: you should use adduser instead
[13:31] <stork> I see.
[13:31] <AdvoWork> yeah id already done sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:31] <akiluu> yay I managed to install the newest nvidia drivers
[13:31] <attickid> how can I install my webcam in ubuntu. I used the "easycam" program and it installs the driver. however it doesnt work
[13:31] <ikonia> AdvoWork then you are up to date
[13:31] <Slart> stork: from the man page for useradd.. which you of course checked =),  useradd is a low level utility for adding users. On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead.
[13:31] <AdvoWork> oh yeah, firefox was already updated DOH, sorry
[13:31] <stork> of course ;)
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:32] <PEAKTOP> want to move ubuntu (established through wubi) at real hdd?
[13:32] <|MUSE|> craigbass1976: The only problem is that even the linux samba shares are not visible.
[13:32] <ikonia> PEAKTOP: I'm not sure thats possible
[13:32] <ikonia> |MUSE|: are you trying to browse your network
[13:32] <|MUSE|> yes
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> PEAKTOP: you could dd the data to an iso then dd the iso to a drive, yuo'd have to reinstall grub though (not hard)
[13:33] <ikonia> |MUSE|: common cause for that is the windows / linux computers are not configured in the same network
[13:33] <Dr_willis_> ActionParsnip,  i wonder if one could use mondo/mindi  to do that .. not that i EVER plan onusing wubi..
[13:33] <PEAKTOP> 	How do I know uuid drugovo hdd?
[13:34] <|MUSE|> ikonia: I am guessing then that my computer is not configured correctly. What do I have to change?
[13:34] <ikonia> PEAKTOP nlkid
[13:34] <ikonia> PEAKTOP blkid
[13:34] <jonnymac> I was working in Tomboy notes and i had a notebook propped up against the screen. I 'think' it may have pressed exit. How and ever Tomboy notes won't start up at all anymore, not even after I restarted. Any idea what I can do to save my notes?
[13:34] <|MUSE|> I say this because all the other computers can see each other, but I can't see them.
[13:34] <ikonia> |MUSE|: smb.conf, maybe make sure the windows are set to bradcast
[13:34] <ikonia> |MUSE|: common cause is also the same network but different subnets
[13:34] <|MUSE|> ok
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis_: me neither, its pretty worthless
[13:35] <stork> so is it possible to get ubuntu to not start the xserver by default?
[13:36] <ikonia> stork sure
[13:36] <jonnymac> Is there a way to view the log of whatever my computer has done in the last couple of minutes?
[13:36] <ikonia> jonnymac: syslog
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> stork: you need to edit your menu.lst to boot to the equiv of runlevel 3
[13:36] <ikonia> stork: use update-rc.d to disable xorg
[13:36] <ikonia> AdvoWork: no you don't
[13:36] <ikonia> oops
[13:36] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: not any more
[13:36] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: xorg runs ar run level two now
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> stork: or you can remove the bit in rc.init to not fire the xserver
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: wow, crazy
[13:37] <stork> neat, thanks.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: im not rguing with it, works fine
[13:37] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: thats the way ubuntu chose to implment upstart
[13:37] <ikonia> I don't like it
[13:37] <ikonia> the run levels should follow the standard patterns
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: then change it :D
[13:37] <ikonia> ActionParsnip it's fine on a one user basis, but for the mass, it should deploy following the established standards
[13:38] <jrib> ikonia: iirc, that comes from the fact that runlevels 2-5 are identical on debian
[13:38] <ikonia> jrib: yup, still not impressed with it
[13:38] <quentusrex> Why is it that I enabled the passwordless sudo, but my sudo user still has to enter the password the first time it uses sudo.
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: what i dont get is why there are so many ttys
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i always strip it back to like 2 or 3
[13:40] <quentusrex> Can some one help me figure out what's wrong with my password less sudo configuration?
[13:40] <jonnymac> ikonia- I have no idea what I'm looking at, I'm fairly useless at this kind of thing. Tomboy notes just shut down and won't open again, d'you have any ideas what I can do to get it up and running?
[13:41] <jonnymac> Don't even know where it saved the notes to...
[13:41] <ikonia> jonnymac no idea without looking more under the hood
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> jonnymac: the way to find out is to research
[13:42] <jonnymac> is to research what exactly?
[13:42] <ikonia> jonnymac your syslog, the state of your machine
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> jonnymac: whatever it is you are having issues with
[13:43] <Martiini> please tell me what its called when an application window goes dim using compiz ... I want to disable this ... but .. i dont know what its called
[13:43] <macvr> I keep receiving this message>>>freenode-connect: Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to macvr) from freenode-connect<<< i'v seen this link>>> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect .... has this started or has this been around for a long time?
[13:43] <ikonia> macvr /join #freenode and ask for support
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Martiini: head to #compiz
[13:43] <macvr>  ikonia: ok...
[13:44] <Martiini> I found it .. its called "dim unresponsive windows" in compiz
[13:45] <LazyMukke> some1 got an ubuntu server ?
[13:45] <ikonia> LazyMukke yup
[13:45] <LazyMukke> can i have an ssh user on it ?
[13:45] <IdleOne> lmao
[13:45] <ikonia> LazyMukke no
[13:45] <ikonia> LazyMukke do you have a problem we can help with
[13:45] <LazyMukke> my collegeue found a huge ubuntu issue
[13:46] <ikonia> LazyMukke ok, if you tell use we can work it through with you
[13:46] <IdleOne> they can't charge you for Ubuntu?
[13:46] <jonnymac> ah but I'm completely ubuntly challenged, I only use it cos I can't stand Windows. I don't even know where to look for the program files
[13:47] <IdleOne> !packages > jonnymac
[13:47] <IdleOne> !cli > jonnymac
[13:47] <LazyMukke> ikonia, get rid of ubuntu as os on servers, in about this and a week if the bug is not fixxed people gonna lose control over their servers big time
[13:48] <LazyMukke> where to report a bug where it cannot be abused ?
[13:48] <jrib> LazyMukke: bugs.ubuntu.com
[13:48] <ikonia> LazyMukke explain the problem in the channel
[13:48] <dvyjones> I installed Ubuntu Studio from packages in Ubuntu and now my computer boots up in tty1. No big deal as I can do startx in the shell, but kinda annoying. How do I fix it? Ctrl-Alt-F7 doesn't work...
[13:48] <LazyMukke> i can change your root password with from any user on ubuntu
[13:48] <jrib> LazyMukke: yeah, you should explain the issue without disclosing how to do it if you feel it's a security bug
[13:48] <jim_p> dvyjones: reinstall gdm?
[13:49] <jrib> LazyMukke: yeah, you can do that with any user that can sudo
[13:49] <ikonia> LazyMukke that sounds interesting, I'd be interested in hearing more
[13:49] <idimmu> LazyMukke: not by doing sudo passwd ?
[13:49] <jonnymac> Am sorry but that really doesn't explain anything.. The problem is that the program doesn't open anymore and doesn't start even when I restart the computer.
[13:49] <LazyMukke> jrib, and on standard installations every1 has sudo rights
[13:50] <ikonia> jonnymac open a terminal - type tomboy
[13:50] <IdleOne> jonnymac: I sent you those links because you made the comment about program files
[13:50] <jrib> LazyMukke: so?
[13:50] <ikonia> LazyMukke ther is only one user setup
[13:50] <ikonia> LazyMukke: thats the admin user - he has to have sudo rights,
[13:50] <idimmu> LazyMukke: only the setup user gets sudo rights by default
[13:50] <jrib> LazyMukke: only people in the admin group have sudo rights
[13:50] <jrib> LazyMukke: and people in the admin group can do anything root can! :)
[13:50]  * ikonia thinks this is a time wasting issue - hence why LazyMukke asked if he could have a shell on my box
[13:50]  * IdleOne wants to be an admin
[13:51] <LazyMukke> yes
[13:51] <LazyMukke> but it wasn't an admin !
[13:51] <LazyMukke> it was a normal user
[13:51] <ikonia> LazyMukke: thats not a problem
[13:51] <jonnymac> gottit back, will remember that, thanks
[13:51] <ikonia> LazyMukke: look in the sudos file then
[13:51] <ikonia> LazyMukke: see if it's been changed
[13:51] <jrib> LazyMukke: so you changed the root password in some way other than running 'sudo passwd'?
[13:51] <LazyMukke> he has no sudo rights
[13:51] <LazyMukke> yes jrib
[13:51] <jim_p> in fact, the users that can use suro are the ones of the sudo group. "id username" will tell you the abilities of each user
[13:52] <jim_p> *can use sudo
[13:52] <ikonia> LazyMukke: the user you can do this as, type "id" and show me the otuptu
[13:52] <ikonia> output
[13:52] <gormux> hi all
[13:52] <amanulla> hii
[13:53] <LazyMukke> not the point, should a user without sudo rights, be able to change the root's pasword ?
[13:53] <juliandevwgfnbvh> im having trouble playing audio from two different programs at the same time
[13:53] <ikonia> output
[13:53] <gormux> julien  ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/local/bin/new_files.sh < can you tell me if there is something wrong with this ?
[13:53] <ikonia> LazyMukke the user you can do this with, show me the output of "id"
[13:53] <gormux> it still asks me the password
[13:53] <blueeyez> any one in here there have installed cs 1.6 on your pc?
[13:53] <idimmu> LazyMukke: stop crying wolf and tell us how to replicate your 'bug'
[13:54] <jim_p> juliandevwgfnbvh: what programs? assign them to different channels on the mixer
[13:54] <LazyMukke> nvm
[13:54] <juliandevwgfnbvh> within each program?
[13:54] <blueeyez> anybody in here know how to install cs on linux?
[13:54] <ikonia> LazyMukke the user you can do this with, show me the output of "id"
[13:54] <LazyMukke> you don't even take me serious
[13:54] <juliandevwgfnbvh> firefox and vlc
[13:54] <jim_p> juliandevwgfnbvh: yes
[13:54] <ikonia> LazyMukke: I'm taking you serious which is why I'm asking for information
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> blueeyez: do you mean couterstrike?
[13:54] <blueeyez> yes
[13:54] <LazyMukke> i can't right now
[13:54] <idimmu> LazyMukke: id take you more seriously if you werent running about screaming 'fire fire'
[13:55] <quentusrex> How do I run a command as another user? if the other user doesn't have a password?
[13:55] <blueeyez> i got a guide but somewhere in it im lost
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> blueeyez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CounterStrike
[13:55] <ikonia> LazyMukke: I think you'll find your mistaken, but you need to check this out before logging it
[13:55] <LazyMukke> and after you do it the user IS in the sudoers file
[13:55] <LazyMukke> true
[13:55] <ikonia> LazyMukke: thats not possible, unless someone has put a script on your box
[13:55] <jrib> quentusrex: sudo -u
[13:55] <ikonia> LazyMukke: that bug would have been found a LONG time ago
[13:55] <ikonia> LazyMukke: I've just tested it now on my machine - it doesn't work
[13:55] <Slart> quentusrex: sudo can do that
[13:56] <ikonia> LazyMukke: I can't reset root user, or any other users password
[13:56] <Xixoxe> I have windows XP installed on my pc, can I also install ubuntu together with it?
[13:56] <blueeyez> any one in here got time to help me? please msg me in private chat
[13:56] <Slart> Xixoxe: yes.. you can dualboot or use wubi to install ubuntu inside windows
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> blueeyez: wassup?
[13:57] <ikonia> blueeyez: what's teh issue
[13:57] <IdleOne> !dualoboot | Xixoxe
[13:57] <IdleOne> !dualboot | Xixoxe
[13:57] <LazyMukke> meh
[13:57] <Xixoxe> lol, why are the pages https?
[13:57] <LazyMukke> what version is ubuntu now ?
[13:57] <ikonia> LazyMukke: 8.04
[13:57] <juliandevwgfnbvh> is there a way that every program uses the same audio mixer
[13:57] <sam38> I recently installed ubuntu and I am a linux newbie. I want to connect to internet but I face problems...what should I do?
[13:57] <IdleOne> Xixoxe: don't let all the links scare you. Go read them and then re-read, then give it a shot
[13:57] <LazyMukke> :s
[13:58] <LazyMukke> ikonia, pm
[13:58] <jin> what is the tool called to enable more compiz plugins?
[13:58] <ikonia> LazyMukke: ok
[13:58] <IdleOne> !ccsm
[13:58] <quentusrex> Can someone help me figure out why my sudo user has to enter his password the first time he uses sudo when he logs into the terminal? Even though I modified visudo to not require the password?
[13:59] <sam38> ?
[13:59] <Slart> quentusrex: tell us what you changed
[13:59] <Slart> quentusrex: a pastebin of the sudoers file might help too..
[13:59] <devedse_> Does someone know how to play a game through ssh, i already set up a ssh server, i want for example maplestory (uses port 8484 to connect to the server) go through ssh to my ssh server at home and from there connect to the maplestory server itself.
[13:59] <Daemonic> Quick question. I'm on a ubuntu 8.04 x86_64 live cd and it detected my resolution as 800x600 when it should be 1680x1050. This is on an nvidia 7800. I tried editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf but the file seems to be rather empty. How can I get the proper resolution on the livecd?
[13:59] <quentusrex> %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[13:59] <quentusrex> then I added the user to the sudo group
[13:59] <wtgee> quentusrex: did you just uncomment it?
[14:00] <johnson_911> johnson_911
[14:00] <cdavis> can someone suggest a good php editor? Basically I am looking for syntax highlighting and maybe quick ways to enter common php strings, like echo "somehtml";
[14:00] <quentusrex> wtgee, yes. I just uncommented it then added my user to group sudo
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Daemonic: you need to install nvidia-glx-new
[14:00] <wtgee> quentusrex: Becuase you are also a member of the admin group and that line is below the sudo line.
[14:00] <Daemonic> ActionParsnip: can I do that while in the live session?
[14:00] <Slart> cdavis: perhaps bluefish?
[14:01] <quentusrex> aah, so I should commend out the %sudo line, and change the admin line
[14:01] <wtgee> quentusrex: Which is pretty silly.  Move the sudo line below the admin line and then it should be fine.
[14:01] <cdavis> Slart, I will look, thanks
[14:01] <sam38> ahh.  what about my problem
[14:01] <wtgee> quentusrex: Or do that...I just moved my sudo line
[14:01] <Slart> sam38: have you explained your problem?
[14:01] <noob-africa> Question: Am having problems settingup Compiz on my laptop... any takers?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Daemonic: you can do anything in live that you can do in installed, your ram is your hard drive
[14:01] <devedse_> someone can help me with forwarding games through ssh?, please private chat me
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Daemonic: so it is very limited
[14:01] <noob-africa> It is already installed, but there is an error I get when running Compiz from the terminal.
[14:01] <attickid> how can I install my webcam in ubuntu. I used the "easycam" program and it installs the driver. however it doesnt work
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | noob-africa
[14:02] <quentusrex> I'm use to using vim, how do I get into 'edit mode' for vi? For vim I just press 'i' first.
[14:02] <Slart> sam38: try to be as detailed as you can, put it all on one line. Include what version of ubuntu you are running etc etc
[14:02] <|MUSE|> ikonia: Thanks for the help. It took me awhile, but I prevailed. :)
[14:02] <jrib> quentusrex: same
[14:02] <Daemonic> ActionParsnip: ok, so I just installed nvidia-glx-new. Do I just restart X or is there anything else I need to do? ..and thanks for helping.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Daemonic: you need to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:03] <wtgee> quentusrex: Visudo is vi which is almost vim, so it should be mostly the same.
[14:03] <sam38> Slart : Yeah....I am new to ubuntu . I am trying to connect to internet but failed.Where should I look?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Daemonic: id also get nvidia-settings package
[14:03] <sam38> I am using Ubuntu Hardy Heron
[14:03] <quentusrex> jrib, but it seems to be freaking out on me. if I press 'i' then an arrow key it replaces that line with Capital 'A' for up, or 'B' for down, 'C' for left or 'D' for right....
[14:03] <Slart> sam38: what kind of internet connection do you have?
[14:04] <wtgee> quentusres: It is the arrow keys that are different.  Use hjkl... up, left, right, down
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> sam38: do you connect to a router via LAN or do you use a usb modem?
[14:04] <sam38> Slart : a broadband internet connection.............. ADSL .....I am connected using Ethernet
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> sam38: we need a bit more info
[14:04] <sam38> I provided it
[14:04] <jrib> quentusrex: why don't you just use vim instead of vim-tiny or whatever you are using now?
[14:04] <sam38> If you want more tell me
[14:04] <devedse_> someone can help me with ssh stuf, pls private chat me
[14:05] <jrib> !ssh > devedse_
[14:05] <fentomas> :rofl
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> sam38: does ifconfig show anything intelligent like an ip address that your router would give out?
[14:05] <Daemonic> ActionParsnip: ok, so I'm guessing I have to write my xorg.conf by hand? in my xorg.conf it just has Identifier "Configured Video Device" & Identifier "Configured Monitor"
[14:05] <wtgee> quentusrex: Or something similar :)  I think that is why I ended up just moving the line because you can just 'dd' it and then 'p'...the arrow keys are only different in edit mode
[14:05] <sam38> I dont know ..I will have to check
[14:05] <quentusrex> jrib, I though you have to edit it through visudo, can I just vimsudo?
[14:05] <jrib> quentusrex: no, just install the 'vim' package
[14:05] <Daemonic> ActionParsnip: there aren't the usual lines I'm used to seing in there. seems rather generic, no info at all other than those lines.
[14:06] <sam38> BTW, do I need to configure my PPPoe connection?
[14:06] <quentusrex> jrib, I have vim. But what file do I edit?
[14:06] <wtgee> quentusrex, jrib: No, visudo is an app built on vi,  you have no choice.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Daemonic: try xorgconfig
[14:06] <wtgee> jrib:  The app is 'visudo'
[14:06] <jramsey> i switched to kde to try it, decided to go back to gnome but the kubuntu startup graphic is still there; anyone know how to change it back to ubuntu?
[14:06] <quentusrex> wtgee, how do I go to the end of the line and make a new line in vi?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> sam38: not if you are using ethernet
[14:06] <Daemonic> ActionParsnip: no such command.
[14:07] <jin> what is the tool called to enable more compiz plugins?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Daemonic: install it then
[14:07] <sam38> I am using ethernet.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | jin
[14:07] <Daemonic> ActionParsnip: what package is it in?
[14:07] <jrib> wtgee: please read 'man visudo'
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Daemonic: it may be in one of the same name
[14:08] <Daemonic> ActionParsnip: tried it. E: Couldn't find package xorgconfig
[14:08] <sam38> Can you point me to a link which tells to configure internet settings in Ubunutu....I googled but couldnot find one
[14:08] <jramsey>  i switched to kde to try it, decided to go back to gnome but the kubuntu startup graphic is still there; anyone know how to change it back to ubuntu?
[14:08] <wtgee> quentusrex: I think  most of the commands are the same when not in edit mode but not sure.  'A' should put you in edit mode at the end of the line
[14:08] <waseidel> hi there it's somebody who tell me how to put ubuntu's desktop like "just installed"?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> sam38: do you get dhcp on the system?
[14:08] <ushills> jramsey. look for upsplashlogo
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> sam38: are the LAN activity lights on
[14:08] <jramsey> ushills: where would i look for it?
[14:08] <sam38> ActionParsnip : yeah
[14:08] <jrib> quentusrex: check that the 'vim' package is actually installed.  It's not by default
[14:08] <jim_p> waseidel: you mean revert to previous state?
[14:09] <sam38> yes LAN lights are on
[14:09] <waseidel> jim_p, but just the desktop
[14:09] <sam38> I am able to access internet from XP.
[14:09] <wtgee> jrib: Hm, interesting, I didn't know that, thanks
[14:09] <quentusrex> jrib, it's installed. the point is that I can only edit the file with visudo
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> sam38: can you ping things, try pingng your router, www.bbc.co.uk and <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:09] <sam38> I am on dual boot system
[14:09] <jim_p> waseidel: which means? the icons, bars theme, etc?
[14:09] <waseidel> jim_p, yeah
[14:09] <sam38> I am able to ping to my ISP server successfully
[14:10] <jrib> quentusrex: yes, but 'man visudo' tells you how it chooses an editor
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> sam38: by name or ip?
[14:10] <sam38> By IP
[14:10] <waseidel> i have read and i can see it's deleting some ".something" files
[14:10] <jim_p> waseidel: well... since i dont remember the exact names of the themes and stuff
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> sam38: how about pinging names like www.ask.com
[14:10] <ushills> jramsey. I think it is in /etc or something similar, basically when you installed kubuntu it installed that logo you need to get the ubuntu one and replace it.   Good upsplash ubuntu and you should find something.
[14:10] <waseidel> jim_p, i have read and i can see it's deleting some ".something" files
[14:10] <sam38> I will have to try pinging names...........
[14:11] <ushills> jramsey. sorry meant to say google upsplash ubuntu
[14:11] <jim_p> waseidel: you can make a new user and look at how his default desktop is and then make yours like his
[14:11] <jramsey> ushills: ok txs am googling now
[14:12] <xhunter> hi
[14:12] <noodle1> I have a problem with TSClient on ubuntu where I can't seem to open more than one TSClient session at a time. Additionally I'm also looking for a way to get the equivalent of ipconfig /all on windows on linux so I can view the DNS information. I've tried google but I can't seem to find the answers.
[14:12] <georgina> How do I quit a status window in irssi?
[14:12] <sam38> ?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> sam38: do they ping?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> sam38: the names
[14:13] <waseidel> jim_p, but i do this before was deleting the ".something" files, but it loses all the configuration of all the programs the only i want it's to the desktop it's just one folder thaaat i have to delete but i don't remember wich one
[14:13] <IntuitiveNipple> jramsey: I suspect you can change it here: System > Administration > Login Window -> Local -> "Theme"
[14:13] <sam38> I will have to log off from XP and log into Ubuntu to see......
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> ok
[14:13] <ktne> hello :)
[14:13] <noodle1> I have a problem with TSClient on ubuntu where I can't seem to open more than one TSClient session at a time. Additionally I'm also looking for a way to get the equivalent of ipconfig /all on windows on linux so I can view the DNS information. I've tried google but I can't seem to find the answers.
[14:14] <ktne> i've finally succeeding installing the nvidia driver
[14:14] <IntuitiveNipple> noodle1: ifconfig && ip route -n && cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:14] <ktne> now how do i make the audio work? it worked for a while but now it doesn't anymore
[14:14] <xhunter> I have installed kdm and can't run the dekstop it just gives me a Terminal and a blue background screen . Some one can help please ?
[14:14] <ktne> it shows a small stop sign next to the speaker in the system tray
[14:14] <jim_p> waseidel: delete all the .folders then and every program and app will revert to default!
[14:14] <ktne> any idea how to fix this?
[14:14] <IntuitiveNipple> noodle1: correction: ifconfig && ip route && cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:15] <xhunter> I have installed kdm and can't run the dekstop it just gives me a Terminal and a blue background screen . Some one can help please ?
[14:15] <dch26> ktne - nvidia driver working :) did you get the gl extension working and desktop effects.....my driver in...no effects :(
[14:15] <jim_p> is there a way to make gdm's letters bigger?
[14:15] <ktne> dch26:  yes
[14:15] <ktne> dch26:  but i had to do it the manual way by downloading from nvidia site and installing it that way
[14:15] <dch26> do anything special...or out the box?
[14:15] <xhunter> I have this problem since 2 weeks please some one can help ?
[14:15] <jim_p> xhunter: kdm from kde4?
[14:15] <dch26> ah, yup, tried that
[14:15] <dch26> no joy
[14:15] <jrib> quentusrex: what does this return for you:  sudo update-alternatives --config vim
[14:16] <dch26> driver good...but no 3d
[14:16] <IntuitiveNipple> xhunter: On the log-in screen, if there's an action menu, you ought to be able to select the type of session. It sounds as if it is currently set to Terminal instead of KDE
[14:16] <jrib> quentusrex: what does this return for you:  sudo update-alternatives --config vi    :)
[14:16] <ktne> dch26: try out nvidia-settings application and see if it launches correctly
[14:16] <noodle1> intuitivenipple, I do use ifconfig but it doesn't show me DNS information only the configurtaion and allows me to edit the configuration. I want to view the DNS provided to me via DHCP. Additional ip route doesn't show me anything other than my gateway, and I cat /etc/resolve.conf is what exctly Do you want me to browse to that or run that at terminal?
[14:16] <waseidel> jim_p, but i lose all the firefox configuration amule downloads etc, and i don't want to lose that, but i'll keep these folders tnkz jim_p
[14:16] <xhunter> IntuitiveNipple : ok I'll try that and brb
[14:17] <dch26> ktne - it launches but says it cant connect to gl layer (or something like that)
[14:17] <IntuitiveNipple> noodle1: That's what those commands do. "cat /etc/resolv.conf" is the DNS bit
[14:17] <ktne> dch26:  hmm, then the driver has not been installed correctly probably
[14:17] <jim_p> waseidel: well dont detele the .mozilla and .amule folders then!
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> dch26: did you specify refest rates and resolutions in xorg.conf
[14:17] <dch26> and (interestingly) it cant save my xorg.conf file (access rights?) so i just copy and paste its stuff into sudo gedit
[14:18] <ktne> dch26:  yes you need proper sudo
[14:18] <dch26> ktne- have used envy to uninstall and re-install, and tried native install of nvidia drivers...all to same effect - boo
[14:18] <ktne> ActionParsnip: you don't need proper refresh rates yet
[14:18] <jramsey> anything bad happen if i just remove kubuntu related pkgs in synaptic?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ktne: my nvidia drivers dont kick in until i specify them
[14:18] <||arifaX> i, I want to use debian x86 bigmem kernel on my kubuntu hardy. is there a good howto for doing that and what might cause problems?
[14:18] <gynterk> hello, Ubunty hardy, why Basero doesn't show any devices if I want to burn image?
[14:19] <ktne> dch26:  i'm not sure what that envy application does since i just downloaded and installed that way, did you get any error during driver installation?
[14:19] <ushills> jramsey. check through the dependancies that it removes to make sure gnome desktop and similar are not autoremoved.  if not should be okay, you will always have cli.
[14:19] <dch26> ktne - nope, said all good. i wish it did give me an error! i get the nvidia splash screen and the right res, and 2d is fast (no dragging)....
[14:19] <noodle1> IntuitiveNipple, I'm sorry I fail to understand. I think you are saying those commands write to resolve.conf? If so thats great, but it still doesn't help me determine my DNS provided to me via DHCP?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> gynterk: do you have a /dev/cdrw
[14:20] <jramsey> ushills: if i boot and i don't see a gui, what then? if i have cli i guess reinstall the ubuntu desktop with apt-get?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> dch26: does glxinfo | grep direct say you have direct rendering?
[14:20] <IntuitiveNipple> noodle1: No, those commands report the network interface configurations, the routing table, and the DNS configuration
[14:20] <gynterk> ActionParsnip, yes cdrw -> scd0
[14:20] <ushills> jramsey. correct
[14:20] <jramsey> ushills: ok txs
[14:20] <nightdragon> jramsey:  thers a command to start up x11
[14:20] <nightdragon> startx i think it is
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> gynterk: ok so brasserio cant find it?
[14:20] <jramsey> nightdragon: ok txs
[14:21] <ktne> dch26: try to uninstall all existing nvidia drivers before installing manually, i had to do so before it worked because there were some leftover files that made it incompatible
[14:21] <noodle1> IntuitiveNipple, ok so what is the significance of cat /etc/resolve.conf?
[14:21] <joshuablount> Hmm. After today's updates, I rebooted and now I can see the gdm login screen, but all interface tools won't work. Any idea where to get started trouble shooting?
[14:21] <gynterk> ActionParsnip, "Select drive to write to" is unselectable
[14:21] <ushills> jramsey.  if you are using wifi then you may have an issue, although you can use a Hardy CD as a source if you have no internet. With ethernet connection no issues.
[14:21] <dch26> actionparsnip (interesting handle!) - erm, no , it just complains about inability to finf rgb glx visual and tells me that basically glx extension is missing on display ":0.0"
[14:21] <xhunter> I tryed that
[14:22] <joshuablount> Also, interface tools (keyboard, mouse) work if I hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the shell.
[14:22] <xhunter> but it just gives me a terminal
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> !burning
[14:22] <dch26> ktne - have tried searching for conflicting driver files libGL, etc etc and removed all 'older looking ones' manually.
[14:22] <ktne> dch26:  maybe your xorg.conf is missing proper glx extension activation
[14:22] <xhunter> How can I install the kdm dekstop environment ? some one help me please ?
[14:23] <jrib> !kde | xhunter
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> gynterk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=750767
[14:23] <ushills> xhunter. select it in synaptic manager
[14:23] <jim_p> xhunter: sudo apt-get install kdm
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> gynterk: do you use hibernate / standby?
[14:23] <IntuitiveNipple> noodle1: /etc/resolv.conf contains the current DNS configuration
[14:23] <xhunter> I can't I only have a terminal
[14:23] <xhunter> so no select manager
[14:23] <xhunter> :)
[14:23] <gynterk> ActionParsnip, no, since those aren't working
[14:23] <ktne> dch26:  on message #9 is a config file that i used as inspiration for my xorg.conf http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227433
[14:24] <dch26> ktne - i have glx mentioned in modules section but not in extensions section
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> gynterk: does it work in another cd burning app (just to test)
[14:24] <Ornedan> G'day. I've got a laptop (Lenovo T61) with unfortunately situated and redundant (at the very front edge) mouse buttons. Could someone give me pointers on how to configure X to ignore them?
[14:24] <noodle1> IntuitiveNipple, so you are saying browse to it via gui or can I access it via terminal?
[14:24] <laeg> how do i translate and ip to a domain name something like /dns or /nslookup?
[14:24] <ushills> xhunter: from cli sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:24] <peti> hy all
[14:24] <ktne> dch26:  what is the name of your driver? "nv" or "nvidia"?
[14:24] <gynterk> I have only Brasero :)
[14:24] <ktne> dch26:  in Device Section
[14:25] <dch26> ktne - have tried both! nvidia right now i think (nv is restricted??)
[14:25] <IntuitiveNipple> noodle1: I gave you a command string to report all the information you wanted to see
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> gynterk: try sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[14:25] <ktne> dch26:  nv is an open source driver that has no 3d acceleration, nvidia is proprietary but has 3d acceleration
[14:25] <gynterk> ActionParsnip, right click on image and write do disk doesn't work either
[14:25] <Flxr> is there a command-line utility that does reverse IP domains check, like what this website does: http://myipneighbors.com
[14:25] <ndo> How do i delete a file in cli?:)
[14:25] <jrib> !cli > ndo
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> ndo: rm file
[14:26] <ktne> ndo:  with rm command, but be careful, check out "man rm" to see instructions
[14:26] <laeg> Flxr: this is exactly what i'm looking for also
[14:26] <noodle1> I ran ifconfig -a, I ran ip route, and neither showed me the DNS. ifconfig showed me my network scheme but not DNS or GW, IP route showed me my IP scheme minus my IP and the GW, and nether showed me DNS
[14:26] <Ornedan> laeg: http://remote.12dt.com/ <- This might do what you're looking for
[14:26] <ndo> ty, love ya, have a nice day! :)
[14:26] <noodle1> Did I miss a cmd somewhere?
[14:26] <dch26> ktne - is it right to have 2 device sections? 1 for Device0 and 1 for Videocard0?
[14:26] <knittl> hi. can anybody help me with xkbmaps? i need a list of all possible keynames there are
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Ornedan: ping -a x.y.z.a
[14:27] <ktne> dch26:  at least one for device, one for monitor and one for screen afaik, i think the screen section combines a device and a monitor
[14:27] <laeg> Ornedan: it only resolves it to the country unfortunately
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Ornedan: do yu mean change an ip to a name?
[14:27] <rat|man> I have a small doubt, interpid beta was released last day.. and they say the stable will be out in next 20 odd days.. how will they fix all the bugs people report in such a short period and release the stable version ?
[14:27] <laeg> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> laeg: yeah, ping -a does it
[14:28] <laeg> ActionParsnip: i used to be able to do it in mirc and even command prompt with /dns and /nslookup
[14:28] <Ornedan> ActionParsnip: Not my question
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Ornedan: i used the site but i dont get what its actually doing
[14:28] <noodle1> IntuitiveNipple, I think I know what I did wrong but I need you to clarify something. I think you wanted me to run cat /etc/resolve.conf with one of those commands? Please clarify, I think I missed a point you made.
[14:28] <laeg> ActionParsnip: that's not giving me a hostname.. and my computer is now beeping at me constantly
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> laeg: man ping will show you what you did.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> laeg: its possibly something else like maybe a firewall
[14:29] <laeg> ActionParsnip: i can't type anything because it keeps pinging
[14:29] <dch26> ktne: in extensions section i only have 'composite enable' - i took a look at msg 9 in that thread and saw no extension section at all
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> laeg: ctrl + c
[14:29] <laeg> thanks
[14:30] <SamanthaGothica> Hey good morning to you all, I'd like some help with Ubuntu Please, I have a dual boot two hard drives one master has Windows XP & slave has Ubuntu now the problem is I can't write on the NTFS partitions and 2 I want to burn a linux distro on ubuntu but what is there that i can use , like nero for windows?
[14:30] <sudoconfused> what's good about it?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> SamanthaGothica: mount it with ntfs-3g
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | SamanthaGothica
[14:30] <padee> hi there. can i find here someone who is familiar with ALSA and campcaster on gutsy?
[14:30] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica where you not asking this earler
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> SamanthaGothica: it cannot modify files with weird ntfs permission
[14:30] <ktne> dch26:  i don't have an extensions section either
[14:31] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica: we went thorugh a lot of optiosn with your earlier
[14:31] <laeg> ActionParsnip: are you saying it doesn't have a hostname?
[14:31] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica: you appear to be asking the same questions
[14:31] <SamanthaGothica> no it wasn't me
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> laeg: it has to have a hostname
[14:31] <SamanthaGothica> i just got on its 9:31 here in ny
[14:31] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica yes it was
[14:31] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica you where logged in as samanthagothlove
[14:32] <laeg> ActionParsnip: <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:32] <SamanthaGothica> yea i was
[14:32] <SamanthaGothica> but that was yesterday
[14:32] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica: no that was earlier today
[14:32] <SamanthaGothica> huh
[14:32] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica: time zones - it was a few hours ago
[14:33] <SamanthaGothica> baby in in  buffalo new york
[14:33] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica: anyway - we gave you a lot of answers to your solution earlier
[14:33] <SamanthaGothica> few i've had a good nights sleep
[14:33] <SamanthaGothica> n/m
[14:33] <ikonia> SamanthaGothica: you appear to be asking exactly the same questions again
[14:33] <SamanthaGothica> thanks bye
[14:33] <dch26> ktne: have looked at the x log and i get messages about: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv001464gl
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> laeg: hmm, gimme a sec
[14:33] <padee> can i ask the exaxtly same question again ;) ?
[14:33] <dch26> ktne: which is what made me try to remove 'older files' - but still no joy
[14:34] <laeg> ActionParsnip: kk no worries thanks
[14:35] <ktne> dch26:  that looks like some dangling old library, you should use apt-get remove to remove old unneeded packages
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> laeg: http://www.webyield.net/cgi-bin/ipwhois.cgi?addr=<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:35] <dch26> ktne: apt-get remove on what tho?
[14:35] <ktne> dch26:  also maybe your kernel module has no been properly compiled and installed during driver installation
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> laeg: its in ireland
[14:35] <ktne> dch26:  on the old nvidia packages you might have installed
[14:35] <laeg> ActionParsnip: yes, i was just wondering about the isp
[14:36] <laeg> ActionParsnip: is reverse dns something that is turned off from the client side?
[14:36] <dch26> ktne: hope not kernel compile stuff....not that experienced on ubuntu yet.....
[14:36] <baldur_> anyone here that can help me with flashplayer proplems in firefox ????
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> im not sure, it appears to be the case
[14:36] <baldur_> anyone here that can help me with flashplayer proplems in firefox ???? it doesnt play sound and seams to crash every now and then ??
[14:36] <ktne> dch26:  you don't need to compile yourself, the driver installation application tries to do it for you
[14:36] <ktne> dch26:  it can fail if you don't have the right stuff installed
[14:36] <Neaai> hello all. I would like to know where is the information at ubuntu.com webpage that informs us all about the mirrors to put in sources.list?  I find it frustrating that such information has to be burried somewhere deep in that page...
[14:37] <ktne> dch26:  like linux kernel headers and a minimal build environment (compiler)
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> laeg: Irish Broadband Internet Services Limited.
[14:37] <laeg> how did you check that?
[14:37] <dch26> ktne: ok, when i installed the nvidia drivers, yes u r right, it made me download some libc stuff and compiled it for me using the nvidia tools...
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> laeg: http://cqcounter.com/whois/\
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> laeg: http://cqcounter.com/whois/
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> stupid kboard
[14:37] <laeg> can't we do it from terminal? :)
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> laeg: id imagine so, not sure
[14:38] <craigbass1976> Ok, samba and this XP box I'm fighting with are going badly...  Read some tuts and still getting nowhere.  I can mount up the share, can see the files, but can't access the files.
[14:38] <IntuitiveNipple> laeg: whois <ip address>
[14:38] <IntuitiveNipple> laeg: or, whois domain.name
[14:38] <craigbass1976> mount -t cifs //IP.AD.DRE.SS/Data /home/me/share/ -o Everyone,iocharset=utf8
[14:38] <trilobiti> hello all. I would like to know where is the information at ubuntu.com webpage that informs us all about the mirrors to put in sources.list?  I find it frustrating that such information has to be burried somewhere deep in that page...
[14:38] <ikonia> craigbass1976: what is your linux username
[14:38] <craigbass1976> craig
[14:39] <ikonia> craigbass1976: what is your XP username
[14:39] <dch26> ktne: thx 4 your time...have to dash...will try harder on nvidia 3d stuff and let u know. cheers
[14:39] <noodle1> I'm having a problem with TSClient, how do I open up more than one sessions at a time?
[14:39] <padee> ok
[14:39] <craigbass1976> I'm running this as root though.  Cabient Folks is username on xp
[14:39] <padee> great
[14:39] <padee> thanks
[14:39] <ikonia> craigbass1976: thats the problem
[14:39] <ikonia> craigbass1976: root means nothing to XP
[14:39] <laeg> ActionParsnip, IntuitiveNipple: thanks guys
[14:39] <IntuitiveNipple> trilobiti: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[14:39] <zj3t3mju> sometime while my computer into full screen mode (play game) and back to normal, the screen is back, totally
[14:39] <zj3t3mju> how to solve it?
[14:39] <ikonia> craigbass1976: you need to mount it as the XP user (the XP machien is doing the authentication)
[14:40] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I'll try this... but I did make Everyone able to change files
[14:40] <zj3t3mju> my graphics card 845G
[14:40] <ikonia> craigbass1976: it doesn't matter
[14:40] <craigbass1976> on the xp box
[14:40] <ikonia> craigbass1976: it's the auth
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: ctrl+alt=backspace
[14:40] <craigbass1976> bleah...  what a PITA
[14:40] <ikonia> craigbass1976: so sudo mount -t smbfs -o username="windowsXPusername" //ip/share /moutpoint
[14:40] <zj3t3mju>  ActionParsnip: no solve
[14:40] <trilobiti> IntuitiveNipple: thanks I'll check that
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> zj3t3mju: ctrl+alt+del
[14:41] <zj3t3mju>  ActionParsnip: yes, it restart
[14:41] <zj3t3mju> i can ctrl+Alt+F1
[14:41] <unf> hello
[14:41] <zj3t3mju> see
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: you still need to authenticate with the users who have access to the share
[14:41] <craigbass1976> ikonia, Cabinet\ Folks   ?
[14:41] <mntnpngn> ugg...  having some lockup problems with 2.6.24-19 kernel.   is this known problem?
[14:41] <zj3t3mju> can turn off gdm, start again but it was black
[14:41] <zj3t3mju> if restart it ok
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: you could add unauthenticated users (i think) but its massively unsecure
[14:41] <Thorndrake> gmailfs crashed my gmail account....anyone know a better way to use gmail as a drive?
[14:41] <IntuitiveNipple> zj3t3mju: You could try Alt+SysRq+K to kill all processes on the virtual terminal; That'll usually restart all of Gnome or KDE or whatever display manager is running
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Thorndrake: didnt know you could
[14:42] <allquixotic> My server is headless but I want to set up the X server and GNOME packages. If I try to install the ubuntu-desktop package, it tries to pull in the whole world of Xorg input and video drivers, none of which will be used. Is there any way to prevent those from being installed?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Thorndrake: interesting
[14:42] <noodle1> I'm having a problem with TSClient, how do I open up more than one sessions at a time?
[14:42] <trilobiti> IntuitiveNipple: I'd wish the ubuntu people had that information more accessible and easier to be found though. If any of the ubuntu developers is reading this, the better is.
[14:42] <ushills> Thorndrake. What purpose do you need this for there may be an alternative
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, you could copy the package names that make it up and then carve out the fluff
[14:43] <Thorndrake> I need it for backup of students assignments
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: then apt-get install the packages
[14:43] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: argh, exactly what I was hoping wouldn't be the case, okay thanks
[14:43] <Thorndrake> it's a studentassistent gmail account.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: you can remove them once you are setup
[14:43] <IntuitiveNipple> trilobiti: It is also on http://packages.ubuntu.com when selecting a package .deb for download, when choosing the mirror
[14:43] <ushills> thorndrake. are you opposed to paying a small amount for online backup
[14:43] <coleosis> How do I tell which generation of MacBook I have? My sound isn't working and I'm not sure which Wiki to read.
[14:44] <Azhi_Dahaka> Hi
[14:44] <Azhi_Dahaka> My GUI apps are unable to be launched
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> coleosis: just use lspci and it will tell you what soundcard you have
[14:44] <Oli``> How can I pipe debug statements to file?
[14:44] <trilobiti> IntuitiveNipple: oh. But i wasn't able to find it when browsing the page though.. got confused :/
[14:44] <Thorndrake> I am because I would have to pay for it myself even if it's for the university, it's not a very prudent practice to ask for funds here :P
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Oli``: some command > ~/.output.txt
[14:45] <Flukey> hey guys
[14:45] <ushills> thorndrake. I used to use gmail for small incremantal backups now use jungledisk and amazon a3.  You can use duplicity with a a3 account and just pay for space.  Couple of dollars a month for 17Gb
[14:45] <Flukey> slight problem. i keep doing df -h and i'm losing 1gb a minute. it keeps going down
[14:45] <Flukey> :s
[14:45] <Flukey> :S
[14:45] <trilobiti> IntuitiveNipple: the idea is that the mirrors that the installer has put for me, are slow. And I'd wish to change them directly at the sources.list line.
[14:45] <dft> morning
[14:45] <Oli``> ActionParsnip: that only pipes normal output - not debugging junk
[14:45] <mntnpngn> anyone tried 2.6.27 kernel?
[14:45] <coleosis> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[14:45] <Azhi_Dahaka> I was thinking that it was a Firefox issue (launching Firefox and no window opens, yet the process still is listed in ps)... but now, gnome-terminal, nautilus, xchat-gnome... all of them are on ps but neither have a window on the desktop
[14:45] <ikonia> mntnpngn everyone running 8.10
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Oli``: ahh
[14:46] <coleosis> The sad part is I've tried to installation method for the ICH8 chipset :(
[14:46] <ushills> thorndrake. You can get a free email account at fastmail.fm they give you webdav access.
[14:46] <dft> who's successfully upgraded from 7.10 gutsy to 8.04hardy via synaptic?
[14:46] <craigbass1976> ikonia, mount -t smbfs -o username="Cabinet Folks" //<IP_ADDRESS>/Data /share/      No love in the mounting dept.
[14:46] <Oli``> mntnpngn: yeah... it's in intrepid
[14:46] <Azhi_Dahaka> any ideas what is happening and how to fix it? A restart can bring things to normal... for a while
[14:46] <ikonia> craigbass1976 what error
[14:46] <Thorndrake> webdav?
[14:46] <craigbass1976> Of course, I'm just entering through the password, but there's no pas on the xp box to begin with
[14:46] <Azhi_Dahaka> but i want to fix the problem, not ignore it
[14:46] <ikonia> craigbass1976: not sure how samba hangles usernames with spaces in
[14:46] <mntnpngn> ohy...  I'm just having serious lockup problems with 2.6.24-19 on hardy
[14:46] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I tried Cabinet\ Folks too
[14:46] <ikonia> craigbass1976 what's the actual error
[14:47] <craigbass1976> ikonia, It mounts up fine, but I get a permission error when I try to copy or read a file
[14:47] <ikonia> craigbass1976 can you post the pastebin with the permissions again please.
[14:47] <ushills> webdav is a method for accessing remote server folders as if they were a folder on your machine. Built in to ubuntu already.
[14:47] <Thorndrake> ok, great, so fastmail it is?
[14:47] <Flukey> lol machine went from 140gb to 0gb, and now it's going back up :S
[14:48] <craigbass1976> ikonia, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  (which is different than before.  I was getting something like -rwxrSxr-x 1 root root)
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: you got a weird one there, you could use opera to webbrowse til you get it sorted though
[14:48] <ushills> Thorndrake. check the space given away free, gmail has more but fastmail may provide enough.  Alternatively google for free webdav online storage you should find some. there are reviews of the best online.
[14:49] <IntuitiveNipple> trilobiti: System > Administration > Software Sources -> "Ubuntu Software" -> "Download From" -> "Other..." and then select the one you want
[14:49] <ikonia> craigbass1976 yes, your other permissions where nuts,
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: or maybe if you compile it it might work
[14:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> as i said, it's not a firefox issue
[14:49] <ikonia> craigbass1976 that looks quite normal, could you pastebin the ouput of "mount" please.
[14:49] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: I'm not installing ubuntu-desktop, but it keeps trying to "automatically install" all kinds of packages I don't want. I am running a server whose GUI will only be accessed over NX (like VNC); I don't want anything about printers or input devices or displays! Besides, cupsys won't install, it errors out, so I don't want to install it anyway. Can't I force it not to automatically
[14:49] <allquixotic> install all this crap?
[14:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> it's a general one, as xchat, terminal and nautilus have the same behavior
[14:49] <FORGODSSAKELEAVE> I really really hate this whole freaking nickname crap
[14:50] <ikonia> FORGODSSAKELEAVE
[14:50] <allquixotic> ActionParsnip: I took the ubuntu-desktop dependencies list, trimmed what I didn't want, but somehow they're still getting pulled in by the other packages.
[14:50] <ikonia> FORGODSSAKELEAVE: chose a simple short nick then
[14:50] <FORGODSSAKELEAVE> I can't. They're ALL taken
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: id reset your gnome back to defaults then it might be better
[14:50] <craigbass1976> ikonia, http://rafb.net/p/Vd8svh41.html
[14:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> how do you do that?
[14:50] <zj3t3mju> baldur_: try flashplayer 10
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> allquixotic: you might have to do them individually then to check what they bring down as well
[14:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: Is it possible you've got multiple  DISPLAY settings and the invisible applications are on another DISPLAY ?
[14:51] <ikonia> craigbass1976 that all looks spot on
[14:52] <Azhi_Dahaka> well, i installed Ubuntu on monday and have never connected this laptop to an external display... also it starts to happen when Ubuntu wants to...so i doubt it
[14:52] <Azhi_Dahaka> also, sound is gone
[14:52] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I know.  Dumb, dumb...  Would adding a password to the windows account and then including it in my mount command help?  Does it matter that this folder I'm after is in App Data (which is hidden by default in XP) ?
[14:53] <craigbass1976> ikonia, what also blows my mind is that there is a printer shared out on that windows box, and I print to it from linux fine.
[14:53] <ikonia> craigbass1976 I don't see how, as your authed ok now - and your permissions are world write
[14:53] <ikonia> craigbass1976: ahhh wait
[14:53] <Azhi_Dahaka> hmmm... i want to do the opposite of what craigbass1976 wants to
[14:53] <ikonia> craigbass1976: I see it
[14:53] <Martiini> is there a keyboard shortcut to cascade all open windows
[14:53] <ikonia> craigbass1976: on the linux box - type "id" for me
[14:53] <craigbass1976> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[14:53] <ikonia> craigbass1976: it's not world writeable
[14:54] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: No, it's not about physical displays. X can run multiple screens, the current one is reported by doing "echo $DISPLAY" - it would usually be ":0" but it is *possible* (although unlikely) that there are other screen's configured that don't have a physical display surface (e.g. :0.1 or :1)
[14:54] <ikonia> craigbass1976: ahhh your connected as "you" but your permissions are root
[14:54] <Thorndrake> General question, when I press the keys <CTRL>+<ALT>+<F1> then I only get a blank screen no terminal... I'm currently using Hardy. Also if my screen goes blank after a while because of the screen saver I have to press <CTRL>+<ALT>+<F1> and then <CTRL>+<ALT>+<F7>....
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: rename ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 ~/.gconf ~/.gconfd ~/.metacity
[14:54] <craigbass1976> Azhi_Dahaka, samba server in Ubuntu is wicked easy.  It's when windows is the server that things get hairy
[14:54] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> my 8.04 doesnt boot after an upgrade. libc6 probably corrupt or something to do with it when upgraded.
[14:54] <Martiini> someone file a bugreport on gnome for me please ... about implementing keyboard shortcut for casading all open windows
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: rename all those to something else
[14:54] <ikonia> craigbass1976: can you make that world writeable to test ?
[14:54] <Linuturk> using the alternate installer disk, is it possible to install a server installation?
[14:54] <dido> hello.how to install Firefox 3 on Ubuntu 8.04?
[14:54] <ikonia> Linuturk: the server isntall uses the altnerative installer anyweay
[14:55] <ikonia> dido: it's already installed
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> AJuOnLiNE|zZz: did you upgrade to intrepid?
[14:55] <craigbass1976> ikonia, from the windows box?
[14:55] <ikonia> craigbass1976 correct
[14:55] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> ActionParsnip: no. just apt-get update and upgrade a week back
[14:55] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I believe it is already
[14:55] <ikonia> craigbass1976 not according to the permissions you posted me
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Linuturk: theres very little difference between the server and desktop except the standard app it install afaik
[14:55] <Linuturk> ikonia: actually, the default alternate install loads a generic kernel, not a server kernel
[14:55] <Azhi_Dahaka> also, sound is gone
[14:55] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> ActionParsnip: since then its dead. i am trying to recover it today.
[14:55] <ikonia> Linuturk why do you want a server kernel
[14:55] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> since then
[14:56] <Linuturk> ikonia: b/c it's a server . . .
[14:56] <ikonia> Linuturk: thats not what the server kernel is there for
[14:56] <coleosis> Azhi_Dahaka: What did you change that your sound is not working?
[14:56] <ikonia> Linuturk: a desktop kernel is more suited to "home" hardware
[14:56] <ikonia> Linuturk: and the server installer uses the "alternative" installer, eg: the ncurses based installer
[14:56] <Linuturk> ikonia: I'm not using "home" hardware . . . I'm using a Dell Poweredge server
[14:56] <ikonia> Linuturk ahh, then your spot on
[14:56] <dido> ikenia.but i have problem google home page do not appear when i am trying to open it
[14:57] <Linuturk> ikonia: what I'm asking is, can I envoke the server install via the alt disk?
[14:57] <ikonia> dido that doesn't mean firefox is not installed
[14:57] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> ActionParsnip: right now i am on through the Live CD
[14:57] <ikonia> Linuturk no
[14:57] <Linuturk> ok
[14:57] <Azhi_Dahaka> nothing
[14:57] <Linuturk> thanks :)
[14:57] <ikonia> Linuturk: but you can install the linux-server kernel from an existing install
[14:57] <Azhi_Dahaka> I was playing video fine
[14:57] <Azhi_Dahaka> then the thing with the windows happened and i just found out that sound is gone
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> AJuOnLiNE|zZz: youo could try reinstalling the libc6 thing (or whatever it was)
[14:58] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> ActionParsnip: how? i just cant boot to the OS.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: id try getting your apps to appear first, then sound later
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> AJuOnLiNE|zZz: what does it say when you try
[14:58] <Azhi_Dahaka> Weird thing is that VLC DOES open a Window
[14:59] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> ActionParsnip: it stalls. no output on screen. caps lock key keeps blinking. i have to force power off the laptop. after update it said segment faul. etc.
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: try sudo apt-get install fluxbox and use that instead
[14:59] <Azhi_Dahaka> hmm... gnome-terminal, nautilus, xchat-gnome and firefox use the same widget engine,right?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: log out after installing, chang session type
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: are you using any compiz rubbish?
[15:00] <Azhi_Dahaka> ActionParsnip: as I said, i don't want to ignore the problem... I want to fix it
[15:00] <ruif13> hi
[15:00] <Azhi_Dahaka> No, compiz is gone... messes up with video playback
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: but with a different WM you can check configs in apps to make sure its all square
[15:00] <ruif13> hi in my trashcan i try to empty and the files don't goes out
[15:00] <ruif13> anyone can help?
[15:00] <ruif13> :)
[15:01] <Azhi_Dahaka> as I said, apps were working fine
[15:01] <Azhi_Dahaka> suddenly, start behaving like Firefox yesterday
[15:01] <Azhi_Dahaka> a restart would bring things back to normal
[15:01] <hateball> !trash | ruif13
[15:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: Does this happen if you create a new user account and log-in with that?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !trash | ruif13
[15:02] <ruif13> hum
[15:02] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> ActionParsnip: do i need to re-install or I can recover my install?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> ruif13: make sure that folder is empty
[15:03] <ruif13> ~/.local/share/Trash
[15:03] <ruif13> ?
[15:03] <ruif13> that one?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> AJuOnLiNE|zZz: i dunno what to suggest
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> ruif13: yeah
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> cd ~/.local/share/Trash && sudo rm -rf *
[15:03] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok, gonna jump into screen and enter here to test it
[15:04] <ruif13> yes
[15:04] <ruif13> its clean :)
[15:04] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> ActionParsnip: i can mount the install partition and try restoring the packages or even re-installing while logged in through a livecd?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> AJuOnLiNE|zZz: id install fluxbox to enable you to test apps see if metacity is fault
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> AJuOnLiNE|zZz: yeah you can chroot
[15:05] <AJuOnLiNE|zZz> ActionParsnip: yes. can you help me do that via chroot method? just re-install the libc6 and try booting again?
[15:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok, so the plan is create a new user and logout of gnome
[15:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> then try again?
[15:05] <techno> hi
[15:05] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: Yes, it's the best way to determine if the problem us profile-related, or system-wide
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> AJuOnLiNE|zZz: its worth a go. id also try sudo apt-get -f install
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: sounds good to me, you can then copy bits of your old profile over
[15:06] <Flukey> lol strigi is 121gb in size!
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: then remove the old user
[15:06] <craigbass1976> ikonia, the windows share (according to XP) is wide open.  I cannot access it from another windows box either though.  Xp is retarded...
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> !info strigi
[15:07] <ikonia> craigbass1976 it would appear to be the case, as linux isn't showing it the same
[15:07] <ikonia> craigbass1976: make sure the share (not file system) permissions are set correctly
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: do you have a firewall on XP?
[15:07] <freedoms_stain> I wonder if I could talk to someone about dual booting and disk partitioning?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> freedoms_stain: ask in the room
[15:08] <Flukey> ActionParsnip: ?
[15:08] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i create it from the cli?
[15:08] <Azhi_Dahaka> the Gnome app isg getting some unexpected errors
[15:08] <ushills> freedoms_stain. We've  probably all done it
[15:08] <freedoms_stain> sorry ActionParsnip, IRC ias new to me, where is the room?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> freedoms_stain: you are in it
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> freedoms_stain: ask here
[15:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: sudo adduser <username>
[15:08] <ikonia> freedoms_stain everyone is in "the room" and can see you talking
[15:09] <freedoms_stain> ok, cool
[15:09] <Azhi_Dahaka> that's it?
[15:09] <Azhi_Dahaka> it autohandles the groups and other crap?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: yep, then make sure they are a member of admin
[15:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: Yes. That's the Debian extension to the low-level useradd. adduser does all the set-up required
[15:09] <craigbass1976> ikonia, firewall is off
[15:10] <ikonia> craigbass1976 didn't think it was on, your connected fine
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: is the xp firewall still around?
[15:10] <freedoms_stain> Basically I have two hard drives, both formatted for Windows, If I move all the files to the drive with windows installed can I then freely install ubuntu on the other hard drive or do I have to do some sort of formatting in Windows before that would be possible?
[15:10] <Azhi_Dahaka> How can i make them a member of admin, from the cli?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> freedoms_stain: correct, just move the data over and unpartition the drive leaving it unallocated
[15:11] <_Zeus_> freedoms_stain: you will need to format the drive when you install ubuntu...
[15:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: To add to the adm group: sudo adduser <user> adm
[15:11] <ushills> freedom_stain. when the one drive is clear install ubuntu and it will format and set up dual boot.  Be sure to format the correct drive though.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> freedoms_stain: ubuntu will offer to use it and install, it will also see the NTFS partition and add it to fstab as well as see its bootable and add the dual boot shizz for you
[15:11] <freedoms_stain> The drive in question has no partitions, so just format it in ubuntu? nothing to do on the windows side?
[15:11] <allquixotic> OK, restating what I said earlier: I have a headless server that I want to have a desktop environment for NX access. I am trying to install these packages together, but when I do, *something* is pulling in desktop-base, the -generic kernel and xorg input and display drivers. http://rafb.net/p/0JFbyG50.html What's bringing them in?
[15:11] <asoot> hi
[15:12] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i check the groups that an user belongs to?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> freedoms_stain: the formatting is automatically done as part of the install
[15:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: groups <user>
[15:12] <ushills> freedoms_stain. I would suggest partitioning a home, swap and / partition to make upgrades easier in future.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> freedoms_stain: just have no partitions defined on the drive and its good to go
[15:12] <savid> Hi all. I'm having issues w/ nautilus and my dual monitor setup.  My left monitor is smaller than my right, and is aligned to the bottom.  The problem is when new icons appear on the desktop, they appear at the top-left of the entire virtual space and are, as a result, impossible to see.   Any ideas on this?
[15:13] <freedoms_stain> Thanks guys, One more thing, will I have to change the boot priorities in the BIOS to the Ubuntu drive to ensure I'm given the dual boot options by GRUB?
[15:13] <ushills> freedom_stain. home is where all you documents and settings reside / is for the OS.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> freedoms_stain: grub will be managed for you and yo will be offered which system to boot from rub (grub can boot xp)
[15:13] <ushills> freedom_stains. Not a bad idea as the mbr on the windows drive will be retained.
[15:14] <Flukey> crappy strigi
[15:15] <freedoms_stain> ok guys, thanks a million, I've been trying out ubuntu live CD and despite the unfamiliar terminal stuff I love it, am infact using it now, I should have a full Ubuntu install on my box by this evening :)
[15:15] <ushills> freedom_stains. you will need a windows disk to restore the mbr on the windows drive if you install grub on it and decide to change. I always dual booted from bios because of this.
[15:15] <lex_> Can somebody help me or point me to a guide to install nvidia drivers for a 8200m card?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | lex_
[15:16] <Azhi_Dahaka> k, added and starting gnome login
[15:16] <freedoms_stain> ok, cheers ushills
[15:16] <Ste1> Hi
[15:17] <Azhi_Dahaka> it worked
[15:17] <Azhi_Dahaka> but still, no audio
[15:17] <ushills> ste1. hello
[15:17] <Azhi_Dahaka> however seems like something from the gnome or gtk config was botched
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Azhi_Dahaka: then run lspci to find out what soundcard you have the websearches must begin
[15:18] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: audio might be mostly unrelated; possibly pulseaudio needs configuring
[15:19] <Ste1> Hello ushills
[15:19] <Ste1> i've got ubuntu installed for 1 day now, and I installed a couple of apps
[15:19] <Ste1> But now I wanted to 'install' the msttcorefonts package containing true type fonts.
[15:19] <Ste1> and I type $sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[15:19] <Ste1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[15:19] <Ste1> stefan@stefan-desktop:~$ ^C
[15:19] <ushills> Ste1. I am unfamiliar with this is it a ubuntu package.
[15:20] <Ste1> i don't know.
[15:20] <erry> hello is there a way to disable the drives sleeping
[15:20] <erry> cuz it like stands by and then it cant read the disk
[15:20] <[TiZ]> Hi. My startup seems to be really messed up. I have a script that runs some startup apps with alltray; it doesn't seem to run. Every time I start Evolution, it acts like it crashed. And compiz doesn't automatically start. I get an uncompositing metacity first (even though I enabled compositing in metacity). What could possibly be going on?
[15:20] <Azhi_Dahaka> ActionParsnip: IntuitiveNipple: Weird thing is that audio was working fine
[15:20] <Azhi_Dahaka> first, it stopped worked on firefox
[15:20] <diskin> Ste1, you must have another package anager running
[15:20] <ushills> ste1. try sudo apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[15:20] <sqawarlz> I'm having a problem resolving host names. I'm on a Windows network with a DNS server and on a Windows system I can resolve all the names correctly. I ran cat /etc/resolv.conf to confirm I am using the correct DNS but I can't resolve host names, help!
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Ste1: do you have synaptic open or any other package manipulation program?
[15:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Ste1: ushills http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/msttcorefonts
[15:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> but, still worked fine with Totem... now, it's not working BUT at least Totem shouts an error
[15:21] <diskin> Ste1, exit synaptic or similar
[15:21] <Ste1> I only have 4 windows open
[15:21] <ushills> ste1. okay as said you must have synaptic open
[15:21] <Ste1> firefox, terminal, #ubuntu, pidgin
[15:21] <Ste1> oke
[15:21] <Ste1> will try the command
[15:22] <ushills> ste1. how about update manager, that needs to be closed.
[15:22] <erry> plz highlight me when ur thinkiung of answering my question
[15:22] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok, call me noob but... how can i copy some text from inside screen? :D
[15:22] <LimCore> haj
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Ste1: basically you can only have 1 thing accessing the packages
[15:22] <Ste1> no manager is open.
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Ste1: you could try
[15:22] <LimCore> does e230 modem G3 work well?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[15:22] <erry> Azhi_Dahaka, you select it and press ctrl c?
[15:23] <erry> oh wait
[15:23] <erry> im not sposed to answer
[15:23] <erry> now im gonan get kicked
[15:23] <erry> =/
[15:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Azhi_Dahaka: Well, start from the basics - check the hardware, look for log messages (/var/log/kern.log), research any special kernel module settings required, then look at " cat /proc/asound/cards" and " cat /proc/asound/devices"
[15:23] <FloodBot2> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.