 You?
[06:22] <Kilos> good ty
[06:22] <barrydk> Ek glo ons moet 'n koue winter he om 'n nat somer te he
[06:23] <Kilos> well if it doesnt get so cold there wont be peaches, plums pears etc next summer
[06:23] <Kilos> but i think we have more drought coming
[06:26] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:26] <Kilos> hi mazal
[06:49] <superfly> hi, morning
[06:57] <mazal> More superfly , kilos
[06:57] <mazal> I'm freeekin freeeeeezing
[06:57] <Kilos> yeah very cold, even sun got no power
[06:57] <barrydk> Hi superfly
[06:57] <barrydk> More mazal
[06:57] <mazal> I'm on my 3rd coffee and it aint helping lol
[06:57] <Kilos> inetpro  must be a block of ice after biking to work
[06:58] <mazal> More oom barry
[06:58] <barrydk> Eks nie met jou antie getroud nie mazal
[06:58] <mazal> Gaan pluk vir my paar geel blomme man
[06:59] <Kilos> lol
[06:59] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:59] <barrydk> more inetpro
[06:59] <mazal> Morning inetpro
[06:59] <Kilos> hi inetpro  cold hey?
[07:09] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[07:21] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac
[07:36] <gremble> o/
[07:36] <gremble> Good morning folks
[07:38] <Kilos> hi gremble  please give me the link for those lappies again, i cant scroll back far enough
[07:39] <Kilos> and finding logs drives me nuts
[07:40] <Kilos> i dunno why konversation doesnt scroll back the 1800 lines i set it to do
[07:40] <Kilos> grrr
[07:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[07:46] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:25] <magespawn> good morning
[08:27] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[08:29] <Kilos> gremble  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2117760
[08:29] <Kilos> i think thats the prob with them, must be fixable
[08:30] <Kilos> telkom tech should be here around 11am so then we see how fast we can get things going
[08:39] <magespawn> what are they coming to do Kilos ?
[08:39] <Kilos> to speed up my connection magespawn
[08:39] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[08:40] <gremble> It is a guy on my facebook that is selling them
[08:40] <Kilos> aha
[08:45] <Kilos> would be nice to get one to work on then once you have the fix sorted buy and sell them
[08:45] <Kilos> but for win peeps its easy
[09:23] <Kilos> magespawn  my tower needs to be upgraded to lte, tech guy will put in a recomendation
[09:25] <Kilos> recommendation
[09:26] <Kilos> i wanna fly
[09:36] <mazal> Green herbs can help oom :)
[09:46] <Kilos> lol
[09:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-D
[11:26] <Kilos> hello SDCDev
[12:19] <pieter2627> Kilos: Cryterion is a new guy, right?
[12:20] <Kilos> yip
[12:21]  * pieter2627 then needs to remember to be friendly
[12:22] <Kilos> what happened?
[12:22] <Kilos> lol
[12:23] <Kilos> he has been in and out the last couple of days
[12:23] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[12:23] <Kilos> methinks ThatGraemeGuy  knows him from minetest
[12:24] <Cryterion> hi
[12:24] <Cryterion> probably :)
[12:24] <mazal> Hi Cryterion , pieter2627 , oom Kilos
[12:24] <mazal> and inetpro :)
[12:25] <Kilos> lol hi mazal
[12:25] <pieter2627> hi mazal and Cryterion
[12:25] <pieter2627> and also welcome Cryterion
[12:25]  * mazal notes agenda for weekend
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> hrm
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> ya that
[12:26] <mazal> Bed , ps3 , pc , repeat
[12:26] <pieter2627> Kilos: nothing I was just too lazy to greet before
[12:26] <Cryterion> lol
[12:26] <Kilos> hahaha
[12:26] <pieter2627> mazal: condition for the repeat :p
[12:27] <mazal> I should probably add eat in there somewhere also
[12:29] <Cryterion> might help
[12:29] <Kilos> haha no he needs to diet
[12:30] <mazal> Kilos: I am lean and mean
[12:30] <mazal> No need to diet
[12:30] <Kilos> haha
[12:30]  * Cryterion open a beer, gets ready to wait for telkom to answer
[12:30] <Kilos> oh thats why you get cold easy like me
[12:30] <mazal> Oh man that's not good Cryterion , good luck
[12:31] <Kilos> whats the prob with telkom Cryterion  ?
[12:31] <Kilos> they help me always , just takes a while
[12:31] <Cryterion> did deposit, need to phone payment through so they can go ahead and install my second line
[12:32] <Kilos> aha
[12:32] <Cryterion> Most of time I give up after waiting on the phone for an hour
[12:32] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:39] <gremble> o/
[12:39] <Kilos> o/
[12:40] <Kilos> Cryterion  tweet them
[12:40] <Kilos> @TelkomZA
[12:41] <superfly> ohi
[12:48] <Cryterion> lol, they can't even find my order on their system now, lol
[12:49] <Kilos> lol
[12:49] <Kilos> there is another tweet place that helps push things
[12:51] <mazal> Bye everyone , enjoy the weekend. God bless
[12:51] <Kilos> cheers mazal
[12:52] <Cryterion> bye, enjoy
[12:52] <Kilos> you too
[12:53] <Kilos> Cryterion  do you tweet?
[12:53] <Kilos> https://twitter.com/hellotelkom
[12:53] <Kilos> thats kinda like their helpline goodie
[12:56] <Cryterion> never used twitter
[12:56] <Kilos> ah
[12:56] <Cryterion> seems like they've found it now
[12:56] <Kilos> yay
[12:56] <Kilos> lol
[12:57] <Cryterion> They had closed it, so have to reopen the order
[12:57] <Kilos> eish
[12:57] <gremble> Why did they close it>
[12:57] <gremble> >.>
[12:57] <Kilos> left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing
[12:58] <Cryterion> automatic apparently after 7 days
[13:01] <superfly> that's how they keep their issue tracking stats looking good :-P
[13:01] <Kilos> lol
[13:01] <Cryterion> lol
[13:37] <magespawn> if pc last then repeat
[13:38] <Kilos> lol
[13:38] <Kilos> you get there sooner or later hey
[13:39] <magespawn> pieter2627: if pc last then repeat
[13:48] <magespawn> sorry bit slow
[13:49] <Kilos> lol np man
[13:49] <magespawn> also forgot i was reading scroll back
[13:49] <Kilos> haha i do that as well
[15:29] <magespawn> home time for me, good night
[15:30] <Kilos> cheers magespawn
[15:30] <Kilos> later
[16:53] <Kilos> sjoe maar dis lelik koud
[16:53] <Kilos> brrrr
[16:54] <gremble> It's getting quite cold
[16:54] <Kilos> water was iced this morning and temp gonna be 2°c less tonight'
[16:55] <gremble> I shouldve gotten a girlfriend for the winter
[16:55] <Kilos> lol
[16:55] <Kilos> 2 would be better
[16:56] <gremble> Ah but one is already a lot of work
[16:56] <Kilos> tell me about it
[17:29]  * Cryterion scratches head
[17:29]  * gremble scratches Cryterion's head
[17:29] <Kilos> lol
[17:30] <gremble> When it is cold and the sun is down, I like to stop pretending that I am adult
[17:30] <Kilos> rofl
[17:31] <Cryterion> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[17:31] <Cryterion> hmmm, rats active on keyboard again
[17:32] <gremble> I'm listening to the New York Ska-jazz ensemble
[17:32] <gremble> They're quite good
[17:40] <inetpro> hmm...
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz  hmm...
[17:41] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[17:41] <gremble> It's the sound I make when eating a very nice apply pie
[17:41] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <inetpro> those rats working their way towards the cheese?
[17:46] <inetpro> it's a rat race
[17:46] <Kilos> lol clever
[17:47] <Kilos> took a while to think it out though
[17:47] <Kilos> brain frozen
[17:47] <inetpro> ai!
[17:47] <Kilos> cold hey inetpro
[17:47] <inetpro> last night was worse
[17:47] <Kilos> nono
[17:47] <Kilos> you were just less active
[17:48] <inetpro> Kilos: how did the meeting go?
[17:48] <Kilos> very well ty
[17:48] <Kilos> the french are very active
[17:49] <Kilos> and clever too
[17:49] <inetpro> it's your fault
[17:49] <Kilos> why?
[17:49] <inetpro> you started it all
[17:49] <Kilos> started what?
[17:50] <inetpro> you and your africa channel woke them up again
[17:50] <inetpro> I think
[17:50] <Kilos> lol i even invited them to help out today
[17:51] <Kilos> the sly guy in africa is from there
[17:51] <Kilos> and my tunisian makes a good chair
[17:52]  * inetpro rests his case
[17:52] <Kilos> its your fault
[17:52] <Kilos> you and fly
[17:52] <inetpro> haha, now don't you go shifting the blame
[17:52] <Kilos> life was so much easier being a greeter bot
[17:54] <Kilos> i even miss guys here
[17:54] <Kilos> sigh
[17:56] <gremble> its ok, inetpro will code the functionality into Maaz when he gets the opportunity
[17:56] <gremble> then it can greet people
[17:56] <Kilos> superfly  when you get some time can you do a merge on the afrika site please, to fix those niggles
[17:56] <gremble> ^ I am laughting so hard to that sentence
[17:56] <Kilos> lol
[17:57] <inetpro> gremble: ai!
[17:57] <Kilos> i had a greeter script for ibids gremble  but it needs some work
[17:57] <Kilos> a whole day of python work
[17:59] <Kilos> if the bot joins a channel it greets everyone with its greeting, but 1 by 1
[17:59] <Kilos> so major spam
[18:00] <gremble> I was teasing. Please don't add that functionality to a bot. It is really unneccessary
[18:00] <Kilos> nono it made my life easy
[18:00] <gremble> Better would be to have ibid access the weather underground api so you can ask it the weather
[18:00] <Kilos> was very lekker
[18:00] <Kilos> Maaz  forecast pretoria
[18:00] <Maaz> Kilos: Friday: Clear. High: 16° C., Friday Night: Clear. Low: 3° C., Saturday: Clear. High: 16° C., Saturday Night: Clear. Low: 2° C., Sunday: Clear. High: 17° C., Sunday Night: Clear. Low: 2° C., Monday: Clear. High: 19° C., Monday Night: Clear. Low: 4° C., Tuesday: Clear. High: 21° C., Tuesday Night: Clear. Low: 5° C., Wednesday: Partly Cloudy. High:
[18:00] <Maaz> 19° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 5° C., Thursday: Chance of Rain. High: 18° …
[18:01] <gremble> Oh it can
[18:01] <gremble> Nice
[18:03] <Kilos> ibids are great bots
[18:07] <Kilos> Cryterion  i forgot to ask you
[18:07] <Kilos> tell us a bit about yourself
[18:15] <magespawn> good evening
[18:15] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:18] <Cryterion> Kilos, average type of person I guess, I work, play, eat sleep etc, :)
[18:18] <Kilos> lol
[18:18] <Kilos> no man
[18:18] <gremble> He is a robot
[18:19] <gremble> I can see it in the generality of the response
[18:19] <Kilos> where do you work , what system do you use
[18:19]  * Cryterion lol
[18:19] <Kilos> what town are you in
[18:19] <Kilos> what kind of work do you do
[18:19] <Cryterion> I'm process control and automation, mainly for the Baking/Food industry
[18:20] <Kilos> can you help noobs here or do you need help
[18:21] <gremble> I have something fun for you guys to do while you are sitting around and being bored. Collatz sequences. Take a number, if it is even divide it by two, if it is odd, multiply by 3 and add 1. The number you get is then your next number
[18:21] <Cryterion> I can help where I can, I'm still learning Linux atm, only been on the os about 2 years now
[18:21] <gremble> It is thought that for any starting number, the sequences ends at 1
[18:21] <Kilos> ai! grumbles
[18:21] <Kilos> he is busy introducing himself
[18:21] <Cryterion> Programming etc is not a problem, embedded c is my background
[18:22] <gremble> I want to learn embedded c. :c
[18:23] <Kilos> sounds good Cryterion  go on
[18:23] <Cryterion> same as normal c, except not object driven, but goes back to interrupt driven/cycles, no thread options
[18:23] <Kilos> we need clever peeps here to help me
[18:23]  * superfly has done a fair amount of embedded C and C++
[18:23] <Cryterion> www.anmarbaking.co.za
[18:24] <Kilos> ai! now you make me hungry
[18:24] <Cryterion> That website will let you know what I do
[18:25] <Cryterion> lol
[18:25] <superfly> Cryterion: I work for http://nomanini.com
[18:25] <Kilos> ah in banana valley
[18:26] <Cryterion> I range from embedded coding, pc coding, right through to design/selection of refrigeration electrical (high current) and steel fabrication
[18:26] <gremble> banana valley?
[18:26] <Cryterion> Sounds like Natal
[18:26] <Kilos> natal
[18:26] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <Cryterion> Durban myself
[18:27] <Kilos> nice you must meet some of the guys down there
[18:27] <magespawn> Cryterion: cools beans, there are few people from here and DLUG in and around Durban, i am up in hluhluwe
[18:27] <Kilos> oh inetpro , i just woke up,
[18:27] <Kilos> wwk wasnt at the meeting
[18:28] <Kilos> and jacques-stry has been scarce
[18:28] <Cryterion> hluhluwe just up the road
[18:29] <magespawn> aways up the road
[18:30] <Cryterion> Sometimes travel around, so know most of the country already
[18:31] <Kilos> sounds good Cryterion  nice to have you here
[18:31] <Kilos> how did you find us
[18:31] <Cryterion> Thanks
[18:32] <Cryterion> Got onto freenode through minetest, thatgraemeguy and I run the SA minetest server
[18:32] <Kilos> cool
[18:32] <Cryterion> realised most of the SA guys were here as well, so hoped along
[18:33] <Kilos> do you use ubuntu?
[18:33] <Cryterion> yep
[18:33] <Kilos> unity?
[18:34] <Cryterion> no, don't know enough about it yet
[18:34] <Kilos> ubuntu out the box is unity
[18:34] <Kilos> sympathies
[18:35] <Kilos> mind you maybe its better now
[18:35] <Cryterion> I run ubuntu on all my computers, but unfortunately at work I have to let some run on windows :(
[18:35] <Kilos> it actually works well when working
[18:35] <superfly> gremble: http://bin.snyman.info/56k4f
[18:36] <Kilos> most guys have to use win at work
[18:36] <superfly> Cryterion: what micro's do you use?
[18:37] <Cryterion> I still have to use windows for only 1 thing, just until I find a good cad prog to compete with autocad
[18:37] <superfly> Cryterion: ah yes, CAD is something that is still mostly Windows-only
[18:37] <MaNI> this is why kvm was invented
[18:38] <superfly> Cryterion: one of the guys on our team dual-boots because he doubles as an industrial designer
[18:38] <MaNI> keep that windows bottled away where it can't hurt anything :p
[18:38] <Cryterion> micro's I use are still 8051 arch, busy working on dev atm to go next level
[18:39] <Cryterion> I run VirtualBox, although I should've gone dual boot
[18:40] <Cryterion> But VB helps as only require windows for autocad, wine just doesn't work for it yet
[18:40] <gremble> superfly: bin.snyman.info/v8bx5
[18:40] <Kilos> oh gremble  btw flashrom might be able to sort those lappies
[18:41] <superfly> Cryterion: we currently use HCS08
[18:41] <superfly> (in particular, Freescale GT16A
[18:42] <Kilos> Cryterion  superfly  is our python mamba
[18:42] <Kilos> and just about everything else as well
[18:43] <superfly> gremble: haskell?
[18:43] <Kilos> builds great sites
[18:43] <gremble> superfly: Yup
[18:43] <superfly> gremble: I could probably make the Python more functional, but I prefer being able to read what I write :-P
[18:43] <Cryterion> kwl
[18:44] <gremble> Hahaha
[18:44] <gremble> Granted
[18:45] <superfly> Yeah, that's my only gripe with functional programming languages, they tend to be unreadable
[18:45] <magespawn> i can sort of understand the python but the other, i have no idea what it does
[18:45] <Kilos> Cryterion  are you on lp yet?
[18:45] <Kilos> hi solidity
[18:45] <solidity> hi
[18:46] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:46] <Cryterion> lp?
[18:46] <Kilos> launchpad
[18:46] <gremble> The top one recursively calls itself. if it is even, it builds a list (the : constructor) where the next number is made with the function
[18:46] <gremble> same with when it is odd
[18:46] <Cryterion> Yes
[18:46] <gremble> the last two are helper functions
[18:46] <Kilos> cool then you can join us there too Cryterion
[18:46] <superfly> gremble: yep, I can figure that out, but it took me a while
[18:46] <Cryterion> Can't sign the code of conduct as website won't accept key
[18:46] <Kilos> inetpro  link please
[18:47] <inetpro> link link link... for what?
[18:47] <Kilos> za on lp
[18:47] <gremble> I'm not going to lie. After playing around with haskell, I think it is starting to become my new favourite language
[18:47] <solidity> I don't like ubuntu at all, can I still hang out here?
[18:47] <superfly> gremble: I've heard a few people say that.
[18:47] <Kilos> solidity  yes
[18:47] <gremble> yup solidity. They haven't chased me away yet
[18:47] <gremble> :P
[18:47] <solidity> cool
[18:47] <Kilos> what do you like
[18:48] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean this one?
[18:48] <inetpro> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[18:48] <Kilos> there Cryterion
[18:48] <Kilos> i hope so ty inetpro
[18:48] <solidity> While I'm functionally useless with it and still learning the basics: Gentoo.
[18:48] <Kilos> ya tick join
[18:48] <Cryterion> Joined
[18:48] <Kilos> ah we need a gentoo man here
[18:48] <inetpro> Kilos: isn't this stuff all on our website at https://ubuntu-za.org ?
[18:49] <Kilos> Cryterion  solidity  go see https://ubuntu-za.org
[18:49] <Kilos> Cryterion  when something doesnt work then you call mrfixit
[18:49] <inetpro> sorry Kilos
[18:49]  * inetpro was not following the conversation
[18:50] <Kilos> np inetpro
[18:50] <Kilos> you always there when needed
[18:50] <Cryterion> Kilos: I did go through the page, link is in topic I think
[18:51] <Kilos> cool and we have a how to on singing the coc
[18:51] <Kilos> i had to get help from mrfixit and the fly
[18:52] <Cryterion> Read through etc, and also got to the meeting minutes etc, only thing I could complete was sending in my public key, website just wouldn't accept it
[18:52] <Cryterion> couldn't complete*
[18:53] <Kilos> i think we have an easier how to
[18:53] <Kilos> lemme try find it
[18:54] <Kilos> Cryterion  http://bin.snyman.info/mke5s
[18:54] <Kilos> try that
[18:54] <Kilos> if it doesnt work call mrfixit
[18:55] <Kilos> that coc was a nightmare
[18:57] <Kilos> i need to go get a hot water bottle
[18:58] <Cryterion> warm bed :)
[18:59] <Kilos> desktop dont work in bed
[18:59] <Kilos> on my knees with a blanket over helps
[19:00]  * Cryterion needs 191 bytes of random data
[19:00] <solidity> I'm wearing two pairs of pants.
[19:00] <solidity> And a blanket.
[19:00] <Kilos> you in the tvl?
[19:01] <Kilos> just type something Cryterion
[19:01] <solidity> Get a cat to walk over your keyboard.
[19:01] <Kilos> it will tell you when its enough
[19:01] <Cryterion> down to 94 bytes now lol
[19:01] <Kilos> lol
[19:02] <Cryterion> hmm, cats nots here, otherwise she would
[19:02] <gremble> pipe from /dev/random?
[19:05] <Cryterion> Nope, failed again, says it either not correct, or I've pushed it to a server already
[19:05] <gremble> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe57yiyTwkA
[19:07] <Kilos> oh my
[19:07] <Cryterion> Key is 10 block of 4 char's
[19:08] <Kilos> superfly  inetpro  can one of you advise pleas
[19:08] <Kilos> e
[19:09] <superfly> huh?
[19:09] <Kilos> the coc thing
[19:09] <Kilos> for Cryterion
[19:10] <Cryterion> Can't register my public key on launchpad
[19:13] <gremble> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTERCAL
[19:16] <Kilos> Cryterion  how far did it get before?
[19:16] <Kilos> same place?
[19:16] <Kilos> and same pc
[19:20] <Cryterion> Same place, login, put fingerprint in, and says that, same pc, first 2 keys I made from work, new one now on via my cell
[19:21] <Cryterion> But same pc, so will need to remove the other keys again
[19:21] <Kilos> you can only use on pc , i think it matches to that pc
[19:21] <Kilos> or same drive at least i dont know enough
[19:21] <Cryterion> only doing it on pc, just on mobile inet connection atm
[19:22] <Kilos> just know i had to do it twice from 2 different pcs
[19:22] <Kilos> oh
[19:23] <Cryterion> or move your key with I believe
[19:23] <Kilos> i dont think you can use it from another pc at all
[19:24] <Cryterion> 1 way to find out, once I get this one working and get my other laptop working properly again I'll try
[19:25] <Kilos> one day ill find someone that can give me the info
[19:26] <Cryterion> best way to learn is to try it out
[19:31] <Kilos> im asking the main peeps
[19:31] <Cryterion> kwl
[19:32] <Kilos>  it has nothing to do with the computer you sign it on, it's all about the gpg key you sign it with
[19:32] <Kilos> [05/06/2015 21:31] <pleia2> you can move your gpg key to other systems
[19:33] <Kilos>  you should make sure you back up your key, if you lose it there's no way to recover it, I suggest reading this: https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/c481.html
[19:33] <Cryterion> yep, that's what I thought, you have you priv key, and there's a pub key, you need the priv key on the new hardware
[19:33] <Kilos> [05/06/2015 21:33] <Kilos> ty will do
[19:33] <Kilos> [05/06/2015 21:33] <pleia2> especially "Protecting your private key"
[19:34] <Cryterion> Yep, that key is private, and needs to be kept ultra safe
[19:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:35] <Cryterion> and somewhere where you can get to it
[19:37] <Kilos> well
[19:37] <magespawn> just finished watching ex machina
[19:37] <Kilos> fix yours and save in inna safe place
[19:37] <Cryterion> Got some random bytes for Me
[19:38] <Kilos> just type stuff man
[19:38] <Kilos> the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs back
[19:39] <Kilos> i think that has all the letters of the alphabet in
[19:39] <Cryterion> doesn't seem to work in gedit lol
[19:39] <Cryterion> but prob helped
[19:39] <Cryterion> nah didn't
[19:40] <Cryterion> the slow grey fox jumped over snoopy and landed on his back
[19:40] <Cryterion> grrr
[19:40] <Kilos> lol
[19:41] <Russ_> oh hai
[19:41] <Kilos> once i got to where you need to type in it just worked after that
[19:41] <Kilos> hi Russ_
[19:41] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[19:42] <Kilos> you been here before?
[19:42] <Russ_> hi Kilos welcome to IRC
[19:42] <Russ_> no sir
[19:42] <Cryterion> Hi Russ
[19:42] <Kilos> how did you find us Russ_
[19:42] <Russ_> my mysterious ways
[19:42] <Kilos> lol
[19:42] <Russ_> that and MaNI spilled the beans
[19:43] <Kilos> aha thats fine
[19:43] <Kilos> you welcome here
[19:43] <Russ_> fine?
[19:43] <Russ_> lol
[19:43]  * solidity blames MaNI too.
[19:43] <Russ_> like am I priviledged to be allowed here?
[19:43] <Kilos> no we welcome all linux users
[19:43] <superfly> Russ_: you need to update nginx :-P
[19:44] <Kilos> just takes long to find them
[19:44] <Russ_> but I'm really lazy
[19:44] <Kilos> oh you know him superfly  ?
[19:44] <Russ_> no
[19:44] <Russ_> he likely whois'd me
[19:44] <Russ_> went to my website
[19:44] <Kilos> lol
[19:44] <Russ_> scanned it
[19:44] <Russ_> etc
[19:44] <superfly> Kilos: no, I just went to his site, and it was running nginx
[19:45] <Russ_> back traced me ;D
[19:45] <superfly> Russ_: I don't usually bother doing that much
[19:45] <superfly> but I've traced people that way before
[19:45] <Russ_> so what did you do this time then?
[19:46] <Kilos> hes looking for business
[19:46] <inetpro> ai! :-)
[19:47] <inetpro> Kilos: tall him about cloaking
[19:47] <inetpro> tell as well
[19:47] <inetpro> Russ_: welcome to #ubuntu-za
[19:47] <Russ_> thanks
[19:48] <Russ_> very welcoming while people try to fiddle with my stuff :p
[19:48] <magespawn> bed time, good night all
[19:48] <Cryterion> Kilos: didn't work again, I'll try again in the morning
[19:48] <gremble> Good night magespawn
[19:48] <Kilos> Russ_  you can /j #freenode and ask staff for a cloak
[19:48] <Kilos> night mage
[19:48] <inetpro> Russ_: your site without the "www." gives us a 404 error
[19:48] <gremble> It is how they do
[19:48] <Russ_> I know inetpro
[19:48] <inetpro> ah
[19:49] <Russ_> :)
[19:50] <Kilos> one dog face
[19:50] <Russ_> ya nothing for you guys to see
[19:50] <Russ_> :p
[19:50] <Kilos> not even smiling
[19:50] <gremble> xD
[19:50] <Russ_> grumpy dog
[19:50] <gremble> They're so judgemental
[19:50] <Russ_> aye
[19:50] <Russ_> 'welcome russ' xD
[19:51] <inetpro> maybe even helpful?
[19:52]  * Russ_ gets his arse into gear
[19:52] <Kilos> inetpro  tell Cryterion  how to fix his coc signing man
[19:52] <Russ_> I'll update it then
[19:52] <Russ_> :/
[19:53] <inetpro> Kilos: btw, please ask your colleagues on the board to get someone to update the map at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[19:53] <inetpro> surely we now have more members in Africa?
[19:53] <Kilos> why me?
[19:53] <inetpro> is it not part of your duties on the board?
[19:54] <Kilos> nono i welcome new members
[19:54] <Cryterion> hmm, map only shows jhb
[19:54] <inetpro> ai!
[19:54] <Kilos> and make them coffee
[19:54] <solidity> whole of africa: only jhb
[19:54] <Kilos> doesnt it show tunisia
[19:54] <solidity> oh there is eqypt
[19:55] <solidity> and tunisia, and then some other country I don't know
[19:55] <Kilos> sows 3 man
[19:55] <solidity> sierra leone I thnk
[19:55] <Kilos> shows
[19:55] <solidity> think*
[19:55] <superfly> Kilos: Hellooooooo, I'm in Cape Town.
[19:55] <Kilos> inetpro  i think it only shows approved locos
[19:55] <Cryterion> gotta zoom in, only 3 in sa
[19:55] <Cryterion> Pta, Jhb
[19:56] <superfly> http://people.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil/ubuntumembers-map.html
[19:56] <Kilos> hahaha superfly  thats before my time but ill point my date eater at them
[19:57] <Kilos> our loco doenst have a single focal point does it
[19:57] <inetpro> Cryterion: you still struggling with the coc?
[19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: othe map is about members
[19:58] <inetpro> s/othe/the/
[19:58] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:58] <Cryterion> inetpro: yes
[19:59] <Cryterion> it won't accept the fingerprint
[19:59] <inetpro> Cryterion: hmm...
[19:59] <Kilos> i wonder who owns that one
[19:59] <Cryterion> I do
[19:59] <Kilos> http://people.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil/ubuntumembers-map.html
[19:59] <Kilos> that one
[20:00] <Cryterion> ?
[20:00] <Kilos> lol the site
[20:01] <Kilos> not the fingerprint
[20:01] <inetpro> Kilos: maybe https://launchpad.net/~chilicuil
[20:01] <Kilos> sigh
[20:01] <Cryterion> lol
[20:02] <Kilos> inetpro  you ask him, tell him fly sent you
[20:02] <inetpro> Kilos: haha
[20:02] <Kilos> lol
[20:02] <inetpro> Cryterion: perhaps if you explain what you did we can try to help
[20:03] <Cryterion> created pgp key as per guideslines, entered it, and it fails
[20:04] <Cryterion> made sure I reloged in and tried again, failed
[20:04] <inetpro> Cryterion: sorry, which guidelines did you follow?
[20:04] <Kilos> those from mazal inetpro
[20:04] <Cryterion> the site ones first then cleared all keys and started again with http://bin.snyman.info/mke5s
[20:05] <Kilos> and the ones from site
[20:05]  * Kilos goes to mail that chili guy
[20:06] <Cryterion> Site ones I checked were in the "In both cases, you need to use your OpenPGP key. Here you can tell Launchpad which keys you want to use. (Learn more about OpenPGP keys)" part
[20:08] <inetpro> not sure I even understand those guidelines
[20:09] <inetpro> like it's starting somewhere in the middle of some process
[20:10] <Kilos> ya maybe i saved it wron, look in trello and see if i missed something
[20:10] <Kilos> sorry
[20:10] <inetpro> maybe the starting point should be the help guide
[20:10] <inetpro> https://help.launchpad.net/Signing%20the%20Ubuntu%20Code%20of%20Conduct
[20:11] <Cryterion> I tried that, but you have to register your pgp key first, and that's where the problem is
[20:12] <inetpro> hmm... been so long ago that I had to do this
[20:13] <Kilos> thats exactly what you said last time
[20:13] <Cryterion> I know going back on things can be difficult ;)
[20:13] <Kilos> kinda deja veaux thing
[20:14] <Kilos> i forget how to spell that
[20:14] <Cryterion> so have I
[20:14] <Cryterion> deja vu
[20:14] <inetpro> déjà vu
[20:14] <Cryterion> french I think, not englidh
[20:15] <Kilos> ya that ty
[20:15] <Kilos> as long as you understand what i mean thats cool
[20:15] <Cryterion> yip lol
[20:26] <Kilos> ok superfly  hopefully he reacts
[20:26] <Kilos> if he comes online when im asleep please someone chat to him
[20:27] <Kilos> chilicuil on irc.freenode.net
[20:27]  * inetpro just created a new key
[20:27] <inetpro> Key block added to key server database. New public keys added
[20:27] <Cryterion> which key?
[20:28] <inetpro> Cryterion: I added my key to http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
[20:29] <Cryterion> inetpro: that's for extracting keys
[20:30] <inetpro> now this is where I don't get the option 'Register an OpenPGP key' on launchpad
[20:30] <inetpro> already signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[20:31] <Kilos> lol
[20:31] <Kilos> i need to sleep guys
[20:31] <inetpro> ahh... but I found how I can do it again
[20:31] <Kilos> see you all tomorrow
[20:32] <inetpro> https://launchpad.net/~USER/+editpgpkeys
[20:32] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[20:33] <inetpro> Cryterion: gpg --fingerprint
[20:35] <stickyboy> Nairobig GNU/Linux Users Group meeting tomorrow... who is coming?
[20:36] <inetpro> stickyboy: sounds like fun, bit far from here
[20:36] <inetpro> enjoy it
[20:36] <stickyboy> :P
[20:37] <stickyboy> The company I accused of violating the GPL last month will apparently come.
[20:39] <inetpro> Cryterion:  A message has been sent to me--at--my.address.com, encrypted with the key ####/########. To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside.
[20:41] <Cryterion> Not here yet, will check in a few mins
[20:41] <inetpro> Cryterion: but did you get this far?
[20:42] <Cryterion> No, won't send the message as won't accept the key
[20:42] <inetpro> did you get the proper output from  gpg --fingerprint ?
[20:42] <inetpro> note the double - character
[20:43] <Cryterion> yes
[20:43] <inetpro> what error do you get?
[20:44] <Cryterion> Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key
[20:44] <Cryterion> Did you enter your complete fingerprint correctly? (Help with fingerprints)
[20:44] <Cryterion> Is your key in the Ubuntu keyserver yet? You may have to wait between ten minutes (if you pushed directly to the Ubuntu key server) and one hour (if you pushed your key to another server). (Help with publishing keys)
[20:44] <Cryterion> that error
[20:45] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:45] <inetpro> looks like the previous step failed
[20:46] <Cryterion> which previous step
[20:46] <inetpro> from http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/add you should have gotten the message
[20:46] <inetpro> Key block added to key server database. New public keys added:
[20:46] <inetpro> 1 key(s) added successfully.
[20:48] <Cryterion> Should have, it won't accept so it's sending that
[20:49] <Cryterion> not*
[20:51] <Cryterion> inetpro: one thing I do notice, is everytime I do somthing on the site, I have to relogin
[20:52] <Cryterion> Might be because of key issue
[20:52]  * inetpro done
[20:52] <inetpro> The key #####/######## was successfully validated.
[20:52] <inetpro> Cryterion: ah
[20:52] <inetpro> Cryterion: login and paste the key quickly after login
[20:53] <Cryterion> did try, will try again
[20:55] <Cryterion> Nope, same prob
[20:56] <inetpro> ai!
[20:58] <Cryterion> Different browser, still no go
[20:59] <stickyboy> OCSP is winning-er than CRL but still failwhale
[21:01] <inetpro> Cryterion: see Creating your OpenPGP keys with gpg at https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey?action=show&redirect=ImportingYourOpenPGPKey
[21:01] <inetpro> those instructions are very clear... no need to have the others
[21:02] <inetpro> Step 12: Launchpad doesn't store your key directly, so you need to export your public key to a key server, such as keyserver.ubuntu.com:
[21:02] <inetpro> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys 12345678
[21:02] <gremble> GPG seems like a good idea, until it is trying to use it somewhere
[21:02] <gremble> :x
[21:03] <inetpro> gremble: works perfectly well with Thunderbird
[21:05] <Cryterion> inetpro: will look through it now
[21:11] <Cryterion> inetpro: so there's a step missing in the guide, need to wait the 30mins out for server to update
[21:12] <inetpro> don't think I waited that long
[21:12] <Cryterion> didn't work after 10seconds
[21:13] <inetpro> mine worked perfectly after about 10 minutes
[21:14] <inetpro> which was the time it took for me to do it while I was also chatting with you in between
[21:17] <Cryterion> inetpro: fixed, got the email now, thanks
[21:17] <inetpro> great!
[21:17] <inetpro> well done
[21:40] <inetpro> good night everyone
[21:40] <solidity> gnight
[21:44] <gremble> Good night to everyone going to sleep
[21:50] <gremble> Welcome back


[22:33] <vexedemon> atpa: I believe there is a timeout in the config you should extend it.
[22:33] <Jordan_U> atpa8a: You might try asking in #upstart.
[22:33] <vexedemon> clav: odd. Let me look into it for you. Do you have a few minutes?
[22:33] <geoff918> @vexedemon: http://pastebin.com/zPzwwFfu
[22:33] <atpa8a> vexedemon: which config?
[22:34] <atpa8a> Jordan_U: thanks!
[22:34] <Jordan_U> atpa8a: You're welcome.
[22:34] <mod> When I do a 'traceroute -r' on my ubuntu machine it always says 'network unreachable' but I can ping any of the hosts i try to traceroute too, and other computers I have can traceroute fine
[22:34] <mod> is there something special on ubuntu to get traceroute to work?  I tried as root, same diff
[22:34] <claviceps_> vexedemon: sure, all the time in the world ;)
[22:34] <bastidrazor> mod: have you tried 'mtr' it is short for my traceroute
[22:34] <vexedemon> Oh no, ACER. Their sound boards are NOTORIOUS for causing major issues with this stuff. I suggest buying a 10$ usb addon card from .
[22:34] <mod> bastidrazor, nope
[22:35] <vexedemon> Sorry Geoff, I have no answer besides that :/
[22:35] <Jordan_U> mod: Are you sure you're using traceroute and not tracepath? tracepath doesn't use ICMP echo requests.
[22:35] <mod> bastidrazor,, that seems to work ok, thanks
[22:35] <mod> Jordan_U, unless someone's link it to tracepath, heh
[22:35] <geoff918> @vexedemon: I haven't had any problems with it in general. I have a newer HP lappy, but I don't want to deal with 64-bit to 32-bit crossover on the compile...
[22:35] <\share> to update time and date from ntp server do I need ntpd or just ntpupdate?
[22:35] <\share> asnwer pls
[22:35] <mod> neat, mtr is like top for traceroute
[22:35] <mod> thanks
[22:36] <geoff918> @\share sudo ntpdate [name of timeserver]
[22:36] <bastidrazor> mod: you're welcome.
[22:36] <vexedemon> geoff, I understand. I over reacted, but I've had major issues with their hardware in the past :P
[22:36] <\share> geoff918: yes but can I remove ntp daemon?
[22:36] <vexedemon> of course you can :P
[22:36] <claviceps_> [ 16.646876] ata8.00: ATA-7: Config Disk 0, 1.2569, max MWDMA2
[22:36] <claviceps_> [ 16.646880] ata8.00: 16777215 sectors, multi 1: LBA
[22:36] <claviceps_> [ 16.664091] ata8.00: configured for MWDMA2
[22:36] <claviceps_> [ 16.664177] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA Config Disk 0 1.25 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[22:36] <claviceps_> [ 16.664348] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[22:36] <geoff918> @\share You have an ntp daemon running? Which versoin of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:36] <claviceps_> [ 16.664352] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 16777215 512-byte logical blocks: (8.58 GB/7.99 GiB)
[22:36] <FloodBot3> claviceps_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <\share> vexedemon geoff918 ntdp is if i want to setup a ntp server right
[22:37] <\share> ntp
[22:37] <ninjai> for some reason ubuntu stopped mounting my android phone rw so it's read-only.  How can I fix this?
[22:37] <vexedemon> correct.
[22:37] <geoff918> @\share ntpd will run as a daemon, it's not exactly a good thing from a security standpoint. Is there a major reason why you would want to run the daemon?
[22:38] <vexedemon> ninjai, was it an automount?
[22:38] <\share> geoff918: no i dont
[22:38] <\share> :)
[22:38] <ninjai> vexedemon: yes
[22:38] <\share> thanks for clarifying
[22:38] <vexedemon> ninjai: What are you doing with the droid, tethering or mass storage?
[22:39] <ninjai> vexedemon: just mounting the SD card
[22:39] <geoff918> @\share I wouldn't, personally, run ntpd because it runs as root. There are sometimes exploits involving that daemon. you can probably just set up a cron job with ntpdate or manually run that from time to time. That's all I do. And, honestly, I dont' experience much drift on any system--even one that's over 10 years old.
[22:39] <\share> geoff918: i uninstalled it
[22:39] <vexedemon> ninja: is it an HTC?
[22:40] <ninjai> nexus one
[22:40] <ninjai> so yes
[22:40] <vexedemon> I need more specifics of the phone please.
[22:40] <\share> "Middleware to access a smart card using PC/SC (daemon side)" Middleware ??
[22:40] <vexedemon> version of android running?
[22:40] <geoff918> @\share Cool. Do you know how to set up a cron job?
[22:40] <claviceps_> geoff918: as long as the system has a RTC; without it there is some drift
[22:40] <router> vexedemon: usr13 said he was coming back right
[22:41] <ninjai> cyanogenmod 7, rc2
[22:41] <\share> geoff918: I just installed ntpdate because I want ubuntu to get time and date from a server does  it update automatically or do I need to add ntpdate to crontab?
[22:42] <geoff918> @geoff918 I believe if you go to the clock settings you can set it to "synchronize with internet time servers automatically" and you can choose which time servers (note, this will force you to enter your password to become "root")
[22:42] <usr13> router: I seem to have Version: Java SE 6 Update 20 on this machine.
[22:42] <usr13> router: So let me see:
[22:42] <router> usr13: the version i have is jdk 6u24
[22:43] <\share> geoff918: i need ntpd because now i miss the option for the ntp server :x
[22:43] <blue112> Hi here
[22:43] <blue112> How can I use my webcam in two software in the mean time ?
[22:43] <geoff918> @\share choosing the ntp server is just a "switch" or command line argument
[22:43] <claviceps_> blue112: video loopback device, look it up
[22:44] <blue112> claviceps_, any link ?
[22:44] <geoff918> @\share try this from the command line sudo ntpdate 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org
[22:44] <usr13> ln -s  /usr/lib/java/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so
[22:44] <kavinsky> anyone got any ideas on why / how to fix partman failing with error 10 during a lubuntu 10.10 install? (I'm aware this is the ubuntu channel!)
[22:45] <router> usr13: my java is in /usr/
[22:45] <claviceps_> blue112: first one on google: http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/LoopbackDevice
[22:45] <usr13> router: ^^^^  is what I would have had to have done to link it.
[22:45] <usr13> router: You should only need to customize the path to get it right.
[22:46] <router> usr13: ok
[22:46] <usr13> router: But also be aware that mozilla looks for plugins in about 3 different places.
[22:46] <router> usr13:  pm please
[22:46] <claviceps_> blue112: but the "first" software has to support it; and stuff like cam->effekttv->skype doesn't work
[22:46] <\share> geoff918: I forces me to install ntpd
[22:46] <\share> geoff918: so I can add my favorite ntp server
[22:47] <geoff918> @\share what command(s) are you running?
[22:48] <\share> geoff918: just System > Admin > time and date. and keep syncronized with internet time servers... which forces me to isntall ntpd
[22:48] <geoff918> @\share Okay, fair enough. I guess that would be one way, albeit potentially insecure. I don't use that so I wasn't aware.
[22:49] <\share> geoff918: I block the port with router and iptables
[22:49] <geoff918> @\share I guess my personal preference would be to run the cron job. But, whatever you choose is fine. You wouldn't be the first in the world to run ntpd full-time.
[22:49] <\share> hm
[22:49] <\share> but if i block it does it update :P
[22:50] <djndo> /tmp/GEZUN1Ym.c.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.
[22:50] <djndo> Try again later, or contact the server administrator. why do i get this error?
[22:50] <geoff918> @\share That I'm not sure of. I suppose it would depend on how you set up your rules. I think you could block incoming connections but allow outgoing queries on the port.
[22:50] <\share> yes
[22:50] <\share> geoff918: it blocks incoming connections
[22:51] <wolf1> Hi!:D how to search with grep for certain word in whole bunch of documents in folder?
[22:51] <wolf1> i need to search "88"
[22:51] <geoff918> @\share Fair enough. Then the only risk is if something else is able to compromise the daemon itself. Maybe run it in a chroot?
[22:52] <\share> no one compromised it
[22:52] <llutz> wolf1: grep -r "88" *
[22:53] <\share> geoff918: it's UDP port
[22:53] <geoff918> @\share Yeah, I'm no security expert. I have just seen a lot. I try to limit what runs as root, etc. Most exploits can be avoided through some common sense practices, I think.
[22:53] <djndo> Try again later, or contact the server administrator. why do i get this error?
[22:54] <geoff918> @djndo Check your permissions on /tmp ?
[22:54] <\share> geoff918: sudo service ntp stop
[22:54] <xrdodrx> Every time I play a flash video in Chrome I get the message "The following plugin has crashed: Shockwave Flash"...how can I fix this?
[22:54] <djndo> geoff918, how?
[22:54] <geoff918> @djndo is that a download you're attempting in a browser, e.g. Firefox?
[22:55] <djndo> yes geoff918
[22:55] <geoff918> @xrdodrx I encountered that on my g/f's laptop with Chromium installed ( Lubuntu )
[22:55] <geoff918> @xrdodrx I just installed the non-free plugin
[22:55] <xrdodrx> geoff918, any fix?
[22:56] <xrdodrx> geoff918, so did I :\
[22:56] <xrdodrx> flashplugin-nonfree
[22:56] <geoff918> @djndo I think your file is not completing correctly
[22:56] <djndo> geoff918, what do i do?
[22:56] <geoff918> @xrdodrx Yes, that's the one. I couldn't remember off the top of my head. It fixed it.
[22:56] <djndo> geoff918, it does that for every download i try to do.
[22:56] <geoff918> @djndo Try wget? That seems to work pretty well....
[22:56] <xrdodrx> geoff918, well, I have it installed and it still doesn't work, so.
[22:56] <geoff918> @djndo Is this your machine or a work machine?
[22:56] <djndo> geoff918, mines
[22:57] <geoff918> @djndo Have you changed any permissions on your system?
[22:57] <djndo> geoff918, i think i did last night, but that was on a vps.
[22:57] <djndo> geoff918, how do i check to see if i did?
[22:57] <geoff918> @djndo I'm wondering if you have a directory that has wrong permissions
[22:58] <geoff918> @djndo ls -l
[22:58] <djndo> geoff918, what do i ado after that command?
[22:58] <Cody3290> Hell, everyone
[22:58] <Cody3290> Hello, rather.
[22:59] <lalala12> Hello people
[22:59] <geoff918> @xrdodrx I guess I'm not sure. It corrected my problem. :-\
[22:59] <Cody3290> Is  this where I can ask questions concerning Ubuntu?
[22:59] <geoff918> @dnjndo That should output the information you need. Does it say your username on the directory, or root?
[23:00] <geoff918> @dCody3290 Yes.
[23:01] <Cody3290> Is there a way to remove the password? Having to constantly authenticate is rather annoying.
[23:01] <djndo> geoff918, yes
[23:01] <geoff918> @Cody3290 Well, kinda, but that's really bad form.
[23:01] <Cody3290> Bad form?
[23:02] <atpa8a> Cody3290: which password?
[23:02] <Cody3290> How so?
[23:02] <lalala12> hey. I have 1 question. I'll be glad if somebody will help me
[23:02] <Meloc1> hello
[23:02] <geoff918> @Cody3290 The password is a security measure against unauthorized changes to the system
[23:02] <joeb_> im looking for galeon for maverick ?
[23:02] <blue112> claviceps_, it works, but the quality is really ugly... What can I do to improve it ?
[23:02] <Cody3290> True enough. In that case, is there a way to change it? I made it overly complicated with the belief that I would never useit.
[23:02] <geoff918> @Cody3290 It's the equivalent to the User Account Control (UAC) on Windows
[23:02] <Cody3290> I remember it, it's just a hassle to type out.
[23:03] <geoff918> @Cody3290, yes
[23:03] <Cody3290> Ah, I disable that immediately, so not really a good comparison for me o.o
[23:03] <claviceps_> blue112: hmm, no idea, should be 1:1 the same image
[23:03] <Cody3290> But I'll keep it nonetheless.
[23:03] <Damn3d> Hi, which file system is currently the default one in Ubuntu?
[23:03] <geoff918> @Cody3290 passwd
[23:03] <semitones> ginnnn, you can also use alt-f2 to run that command if you don't want to use the console at all
[23:03] <Cody3290> passwd?
[23:03] <Cody3290> Am I supposed to type that into the console?
[23:03] <geoff918> Yes, go to Applications -> Terminal and then type that in
[23:03] <Cody3290> Terminal, rather
[23:03] <geoff918> yes
[23:03] <blue112> claviceps_, I think I don't use the resize_vlookback correctly... What is the first size which should be placed ?
[23:03] <Cody3290> I'm still used to windows>.<
[23:04] <Assumer> Hey guys, anyone know anything about using nouveu drivers with an nvidia gts450?
[23:04] <djndo> geoff918, so it says my name what now?
[23:04] <\share> So I just deleted a shortcut from menus but I didnt want to!
[23:04] <atpa8a> Cody3290: are you talking about password that sudo asks?
[23:04] <\share> :s
[23:04] <ginnnn> semitones, gtksu is not friendly
[23:04] <Cody3290> Excellent, thank you.
[23:04] <Assumer> I tried to uninstall the the proprietary drivers and set xorg.conf to use nv but I still come up to a terminal
[23:04] <geoff918> @Cody3290 Yes, it's the same
[23:04] <claviceps_> blue112: uhm, i can't really help you, i just used vloopback some years ago
[23:05] <Cody3290> Great, now to restart for updates. xD
[23:05] <semitones> ginnnn, gksu
[23:05] <blue112> claviceps_, arf.
[23:05] <kavinsky> partman crashing with error code 10 on a non-raid hdd - any ideas?
[23:05] <\share> What is the folder with Ubuntu menu shortcuts?
[23:05] <\share> :s
[23:05] <Cody3290> Ah, almost forgot: Does anyone here use XChat?
[23:05] <kavinsky> <--
[23:06] <semitones> i dooooo
[23:06] <Cody3290> Is there a way to make it automatically connect to a server upon starting the application?
[23:06] <bastidrazor> \share: right click Applications > edit menus
[23:06]  * lalala12 lalala
[23:06] <Meloc1> I have installing ubuntu with wubi
[23:06] <\share> bastidrazor: I mean the folder with the shortcuts I deleted one with no intention
[23:06] <\share> I want to cover it
[23:06] <\share> recover
[23:06] <semitones> Cody3290, I don't know -- I always click "connect" once I open it
[23:07] <semitones> but i think you can make it automatic someway
[23:07] <Cody3290> =/
[23:07] <Assumer> Anyone ideas for helping me get back to gdm with a nvidia gts 450.
[23:07] <Cody3290> Does anyone know how? If not, I'll just go back to chatzilla. it's just as good, imho.
[23:07] <kavinsky> Cody - on startup click edit -> Auto connect this network at startup
[23:08] <nit-wit> Assumer, what happened?
[23:08] <geoff918> Well, I better be going. Thanks everyone.
[23:08] <\share> geoff918: anyway I just disabled the daemon...
[23:08] <djndo> can anyone help me? /tmp/GEZUN1Ym.c.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read why when i try to download i get that error?
[23:08] <Cody3290> Thank you, kavinsky.
[23:09] <Assumer> nit-wit: I have a gts 450, first install I came up in low resolution, tried installing proprietary from the normal ubuntu method. didn't work. I reinstalled, tried installing proprietary blob from nvidia site and now I can't get a gdm up
[23:09] <Cody3290> Now to restart. Don't worry, I have many more questions :)
[23:09] <druciferre> @Assumer, are you going to BusyBox or is GDM throwing an error ?
[23:09] <Assumer> Just straight to terminal
[23:09] <nit-wit> Assumer, at the grub menu you made need to hold down the shift to shoe it hie then remove the quiet splash and put in nomodeset
[23:10] <Assumer> If I try to start gdm manually It flickers and throws an arrow
[23:10] <nit-wit> *show
[23:10] <Assumer> I will try that
[23:10] <druciferre> @Assumer, log in and look at the error messages found in Xorg.log
[23:10] <Assumer> I can do that as well
[23:10] <nit-wit> Assumer, this should make it low graphic mode a per session fix for investigating
[23:11] <Assumer> Sounds good, I really don't need the proprietary driver, will the open source one work with a gts 450?
[23:11] <druciferre> @php, stop changing your name
[23:11] <BlackRat90> Hi all, does anyone know how to edit the startup applications via the terminal??
[23:11] <sfears> Assumer: "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf" assuming xorg.conf.failsafe exists.  then restart & use the hardware manager to install proprietary drivers
[23:12] <druciferre> @BlackRat90 /etc/init.rd
[23:12] <Assumer> Yea, hardware manager has done one of two things so far 1) low resolutions only and 2) terminal
[23:12] <BlackRat90> @druciferre is that a folder or a file?
[23:12] <druciferre> @BlackRat90     folder
[23:13] <Assumer> I suppose if I can get low resolutions with hardware manager I might be able to add higher resolutions in xorg
[23:13] <druciferre> @BlackRat90    each file in that folder is a startup script...
[23:13] <itaylor57> The @ isn't needed in irc just use tab to get the name
[23:13] <Pumpkin-> is there a simple way to list all the packages actually installed on a machine ?. I'd like to do this on two machines so I can diff the results.
[23:13] <BlackRat90> @druclferre and if i add my own file it will start on start up?
[23:13] <druciferre> @BlackRat90    Sorry, I meant /etc/init.d
[23:13] <Assumer> Alright, time to go break my xorg some more, I'll be back
[23:14] <BlackRat90> yeah i figured that out
[23:14] <bastidrazor> !clone | Pumpkin-::grab the command out of this factoid:
[23:14] <lalala12> ping lalala12
[23:14] <jfbouchard> Hello, I had a raid 1 software. The disk with /boot crashed. Now I got an empty /boot + md0 (good data). Is there a simple way to recreate my /boot ?
[23:14] <druciferre> @BlackRat90    scripts in that folder don't neccessarily run, a link is created in /etc/rc[0-6S].d    <- use of regular expression there, hope you know regex
[23:15] <Pumpkin-> thaks bastidrazor, exactly what I wanted.
[23:15] <terrapin> not happy with unity at all
[23:15] <terrapin> :/
[23:15] <xrdodrx> !ubuntu+1 | terrapin
[23:15] <bastidrazor> Pumpkin-: you're welcome
[23:16] <druciferre> @BlackRat90    I suggest you look at an article that describes runlevels to learn which scripts will run
[23:16] <Jonii> Anyone know how to fix ubuntu mouse to act more like Windows mouse?
[23:16] <xrdodrx> terrapin, please note it isn't finished and can be disabled at log in :)
[23:16] <terrapin> i know, i have the ppa installed >:)
[23:16] <BlackRat90> @druvlferre ok thanks!
[23:16] <coz_> Jonii,   not sure what you mean
[23:16] <xrdodrx> oh lol :D
[23:16] <Jonii> Like, opening menu only _after_ you release right mouse button, not right after you press it down
[23:16] <xrdodrx> it can even be disabled in Natty
[23:16] <xrdodrx> (choose "Classic Interface" or something at the gdm-login screen)
[23:17] <terrapin> i can discuss Unity here cause i can run it on maverick
[23:17] <Cody3290> Does maverick have a built in feed reader?
[23:17] <Jonii> Like, removing this weird functionality that all mouse buttons, including middle button/scroll/mouse3 and right mouse button can select menu items
[23:17] <Cody3290> or atleast rss?
[23:18] <Jonii> I heard xorg.conf has something to do with this, but all guides I found were for much older distros, and Ubuntu 10.4 seems to act differently
[23:18] <Cody3290> and if so, is the one in the thunderbird  client more functional/othrwise better?
[23:18] <terrapin> all problye migrate to linux mint to stay with gnome
[23:18] <Jonii> xinput list has different kind of output compared to what examples say it should print out, all that sort of weirdness
[23:18] <overclucker> log on MSGS DCCMSGS HILIGHTS * ~/irc.log.hilight
[23:18] <overclucker> grr
[23:18] <visual1ce> hi
[23:18] <Cody3290> never mind, then.lol
[23:18] <xrdodrx> terrapin, we can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[23:19] <jfbouchard> Hello, I had a raid 1 software. The disk with /boot crashed. Now I got an empty /boot + md0 (good data). Is there a simple way to recreate my /boot ?
[23:19] <djndo> why do i get this "/tmp/GEZUN1Ym.c.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read" error everytime i try to download something?
[23:20] <visual1ce> im working on a large freemind mindmap on my laptop and i'd like to hook my 30" monitor up so i can better visualise everything... should i just hook it up or is there a specific way i should go about it? id like to use it as an extension rather than a mirror monitor
[23:20] <sfears> djndo: save as a different file name
[23:20] <sufn> i have a problem with my card wifi in debian 5 can you help me plz ?
[23:20] <djndo> sfears, what do you mean?
[23:21] <sfears> visual1ce: type sudo nvidia-settings
[23:21] <visual1ce> but im running intel integrated graphics
[23:22] <Pumpkin-> visual1ce: should "just work", but make sure the laptops video card supports dual-link dvi, which is almost certainly needed for a 30" screen. If it doesn't, you are pretty much out of luck.
[23:22] <Jordan_U> jfbouchard: sudo apt-get install --reinstall the latest kernel, and I would recommend keeping /boot/ on md0 since GRUB2 understands mdraid.
[23:22] <sfears> choose a different file name next time you save djndo
[23:23] <Jordan_U> jfbouchard: To be clear, you'll want to do this from a chroot. If you need help setting up the chroot properly I can give more details.
[23:23] <Jordan_U> jfbouchard: And you'll also want to run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc".
[23:23] <Pumpkin-> visual1ce: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/DVI_Connector_Types.svg/181px-DVI_Connector_Types.svg.png has pictures of what a dual-link DVI port should look like. If your port/cable looks like a single link one, and your monitor is 2560x1600 (like most 30"ers are), its a hardware limitation and it will just never work.
[23:24] <Pumpkin-> (or will work, but only at lower resolutions)
[23:24] <lalala12> ping
[23:24] <visual1ce> ya it worked! resolution isn't great though - from memory i don't think this supports dual link dvi
[23:25] <visual1ce> ill just have to go with a lower res
[23:25] <visual1ce> but this is a little too low
[23:25] <Pumpkin-> should be able to go to at least 1920x1200
[23:27] <visual1ce> how do i move a window to the large monitor?
[23:28] <visual1ce> nvm
[23:28] <Cody3290__> can someone ghost my nick, please
[23:28] <Cody3290__> It won't let me as I haven't registered yet.
[23:29] <visual1ce> in preferences monitor - 30" only has 1280 x 800
[23:29] <visual1ce> i think i had a similar problem in windows though
[23:29] <JdGordon> what do i need to change to get to a console instead of genome by default on boot?
[23:29] <visual1ce> genome :)
[23:29] <Cody3290> There we go
[23:30] <aeon-ltd> JdGordon: you need to stop gdm from starting
[23:30] <aeon-ltd> !upstart
[23:30] <aeon-ltd> !startup
[23:30] <aeon-ltd> JdGordon: heh one of those.. can't remember
[23:30] <red2kic> !boot
[23:30] <veilig_abt> I just got a new video card and am going to try and upgrade from 2 monitors to 3 monitors, is there any catches I should be aware of when trying to do this?
[23:30] <SavoxUSB> dev eclair
[23:30] <Diverdude> I am having the following problem with my packet manager. How do i solve it?    An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[23:30] <Diverdude> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[23:30] <Diverdude> 'E:Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf), E:Error occurred while processing less (NewFileVer1), E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[23:30] <FloodBot3> Diverdude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <visual1ce> ill try a vga adaptor
[23:31] <aeon-ltd> red2kic: thanks, sorry about the factoid spam
[23:31] <Cody3290> Does ubuntu get viruses? And by get, I mean often?
[23:31] <red2kic> aeon-ltd: Nah. Just giving information. Nothing wrong with that. :)
[23:32] <red2kic> Cody3290: Sure. You can get it -- but it can't hurt you.
[23:32] <red2kic> Cody3290: Viruses are crafted for Windows.
[23:33] <Cody3290> So the majority of viruses, if not all of them, would not effect the OS, is what you'resaying?
[23:33] <red2kic> Cody3290: I'm saying... Welcome to linux. :)
[23:33] <Diverdude> I am having the following problem with my packet manager. How do i solve it?         An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information. Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message: 'E:Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf), E:Error occurred while processing less (NewFileVer1), E:Pr
[23:33] <Diverdude> oblem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[23:33] <Cody3290> xD
[23:33] <Cody3290> Thanks
[23:33] <SavoxUSB> Thats misinformation there are plenty of viruses for linux, they are just not as common and usually targeted at servers
[23:33] <aeon-ltd> Cody3290: yeah, but get a firewall
[23:35] <Cody3290> Oh?
[23:36] <Cody3290> Which one do you recommend?
[23:36] <KimLaroux> Cody3290, an external Firewall, one in a router
[23:36] <blue112> Any help with vlookback please ? I can't successfully use it :/
[23:37] <aeon-ltd> Cody3290: any they all just do the same thing. but for ubuntu users sake use 'ufw'
[23:37] <router> KimLaroux: yes?
[23:37] <Cody3290> I don't have a router
[23:37] <Cody3290> I "borrow" wifi from my neighbor
[23:37] <router> Cody3290: yes?
[23:38] <Cody3290> lol
[23:38] <jfbouchard> Jordan_U: Yeah, I did think about keeping /boot on md. but ubuntu default raid setup does not perform this.
[23:38] <red2kic> Cody3290: You're behind your neighbor's router.  Think of it like that.
[23:39] <dw-> any solution for the clock freezing yet?
[23:39] <Cody3290> Ah. Got it.
[23:39] <andres_> hello
[23:39] <router> ARRGGGHH
[23:39] <KimLaroux> hahahahaha you chose that name, router!
[23:40] <drobole> andres_: hi
[23:41] <visual1ce> my laptop only has DVI-d :/ - the docking station has a Dual DVI-D though so i can plug it in... but i dont understand why i can only get 1280x800 res though
[23:41] <jfbouchard> Jordan_U: After reinstalling the kernel and setuping grub. When the system boot. I see the kernel, then a small panic .. then the screen clear then I see more kernel message (about mkfs clean .. eth setup ..) then it dies.
[23:41] <visual1ce> maybe i need to up my video ram?
[23:41] <visual1ce> shared video memory
[23:41] <Cody3290> Is there something like Uniblue's DriverScanner for ubuntu already incorporated?
[23:42] <HorizonXP> i'm trying to connect to a machine at work, on which I've activated remote desktop. when i connect with remote desktop viewer, it shows only black. both machines are ubuntu 10.10, with nvidia drivers. i've tried deactivating graphic effects on the remote machine to no avail. help?
[23:42] <amh345> what's the proper command to encypt a file with GPG using a .asc file?
[23:42] <amh345> i thought it was gpg file_to_enc.txt > key.asc
[23:45] <bris> why wont this work in crontab "* * * * * vlc /home/virtanen/000-random/Project\ 8.mp3" even though this works in terminal "vlc /home/virtanen/000-random/Project\ 8.mp3"
[23:46] <Matic`Makovec> I'd suggest skipping the whitespace for starters
[23:46] <bris> how?
[23:46] <aeon-ltd> bris: try quoting the path separately so its targeted as a whole
[23:47] <bris> roger that
[23:47] <KimLaroux> use "name of song.mp3"
[23:47] <Diamondcite> bris: You want to play an mp3 every minute?
[23:47] <syrius> I am movies files from a mac to a ubuntu computer how do I remove the invalid characters and too long file names??
[23:47] <syrius> I found a program to remove this
[23:47] <syrius> but I need the list of ubuntu's invalid characters
[23:47] <syrius> please help
[23:47] <bris> Diamondcite: I will ofcourse adjust the time when it starts to work :)
[23:48] <KimLaroux> amh345, try $gpg --help
[23:48] <b0g4nk1d> does any1 know where I can get a list of ubuntu's invalid chars?
[23:48] <joeb_> can aptitude install a .deb ?
[23:49] <Diamondcite> syrius: You know.. convmv can help convert your file names back into filenames which look proper should they be in the wrong encoding
[23:49] <b0g4nk1d> @joeb_ it should be able to
[23:49] <bris> * * * * * vlc "/home/virtanen/000-random/Project\ 8.mp3"
[23:49] <bris> not working
[23:49] <bris> :(
[23:49] <DustyOS> Hello every one
[23:49] <syrius> how do I do that Diamondcite
[23:49] <Diamondcite> bris: Remove the "\"
[23:49] <syrius> is that a command line application?
[23:49] <joeb_> b0g4nk1d- im not running sudo apt-get aptitude install <file.deb> im using the terminal interface the one with the menus and stuff
[23:49] <Diamondcite> syrius: Yes, convmv is a command line app
[23:49] <KimLaroux> bris, does it even give an error message?
[23:49] <syrius> is that default in commandline on the mac?
[23:50] <Slayer> am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, and all of a sudden am unable to play Youtube videos, I get the message adobe flash plugin has crashed.. Pls help
[23:50] <bris> KimLaroux: nope
[23:50] <syrius> or do I need to install it
[23:50] <Elvewyn> Me too!
[23:50] <KimLaroux> bris, what's the  * * * * for?
[23:50] <Diamondcite> syrius: Err.. those are linux command lines.. unless you can find a package for mac.
[23:50] <bris> KimLaroux: man crontab
[23:50] <Elvewyn> Videos always look black and white, and show half the screen unless I watch in pop out mode!
[23:50] <b0g4nk1d> @joeb_ man apt-get should do the trick
[23:50] <syrius> okay
[23:51] <KimLaroux> AH, crontab... sorry
[23:51] <syrius> so your saying I need to have ubuntu connect to the hard drive and then convert them?
[23:51] <ratcheer> joeb_: Just use dpkg -i
[23:51] <bris> "* * * * * vlc "/home/virtanen/000-random/Project 8.mp3"" not working
[23:51] <syrius> what options should I use Diamondcite
[23:51] <joeb_> yea thats easy
[23:51] <bris> and again the vlc... in Terminal works fine
[23:51] <syrius> then after that move them
[23:51] <bris> this is odd
[23:51] <drobole> joeb_: to install a deb with kommandline, use dpkg -i
[23:51] <Cody3290> Is there a way to pause downloads in theSoftware Center?
[23:51] <Diamondcite> syrius: I don't know what type of filenames you are converting from.. unicode? chinese? russian?
[23:51] <syrius> english
[23:52] <Diamondcite> syrius: Then what do you mean illegal characters?
[23:52] <Cody3290> mac,i think
[23:52] <Cody3290> nvm
[23:52] <Cody3290> o.o
[23:52] <Cody3290> Ignore me, I have no clue what I'm talking about
[23:52] <bris> Cody3290: I wish politicians said that more often
[23:53] <Cody3290> xD
[23:53] <Cody3290> Anywho, to restate my previous question incase its meaning was distorted by my later statements:
[23:53] <Cody3290> Is there a way to pause downloads in theSoftware Center?
[23:53] <vlan1> ima li niakoi sunarodnik ?
[23:53] <vlan1> :)
[23:54] <Cody3290> Or need I start over if my internet connection resets or if I need to restart
[23:54] <b0g4nk1d> @Cody3290 AFAIK no
[23:54] <snowrichard> Cody3290, it doesn't hurt to start it over, it will not redownload the ones it already got
[23:54] <bris> I'm using the latest Ubuntu and "* * * * * vlc "/home/virtanen/000-random/Project 8.mp3"" won't do anything in crontab although "vlc "/home/virtanen/000-random/Project  8.mp3"" works fine in Terminal. Do you guys know what the problem is here?
[23:55] <Cody3290> aeon-ltd: I search for ufw in the Software Center and it turns up with "Firewall Configuration". Is that correct?
[23:55] <Cody3290> That's the problem, wine is one (relatively) giant file
[23:55] <drobole> bris: what logfile does crontab use?
[23:55] <terrapin> bbl
[23:55] <Cody3290> 85MB, give or take
[23:55] <bris> drobole I don't know
[23:55] <Cody3290> I have relatively slow internet
[23:55] <bris> # Output of the crontab jobs (including errors) is sent through
[23:55] <bris> # email to the user the crontab file belongs to (unless redirected).
[23:55] <b0g4nk1d> @Cody3290 what sort of speed are we talking about here?
[23:55] <bris> drobole ^
[23:56] <b0g4nk1d> if it's slow then Firestarter is an option
[23:56] <Cody3290> 40-120kb/s
[23:56] <drobole> bris: im not sure either
[23:56] <Cody3290> normally
[23:56] <Cody3290> on slow days 10-40kbps
[23:56] <bris> drobole I pasted it
[23:57] <b0g4nk1d> the top connection speed at my place is about 140kb/sec but that's around 2am-5am, every other time it's about 70-75kb/s
[23:57] <drobole> you could do a "tail -f /var/log/messages" to se if anythong pops up in there
[23:57] <Cody3290> it depends on what other machines are connected to the network (speaking of which, is there a way that I can look at that?
[23:57] <b0g4nk1d> @Cody3290 use Firestarter - it's a lot smaller
[23:57] <KimLaroux> Oh wow, an ipv6
[23:57] <Cody3290> That's my DL speed, i mean. connection speed I'm not sure
[23:57] <Slayer> am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, and all of a sudden am unable to play Youtube videos, I get the message adobe flash plugin has crashed.. Pls help
[23:57] <Cody3290> o.o
[23:58] <bris> drobole nothing about vlc in there
[23:58] <drobole> bris: oh i didnt see that
[23:58] <drobole> ok
[23:58] <Cody3290> Oh, for firewalls
[23:58] <Cody3290> >.<
[23:58] <Diamondcite> bris: Random thought. vlc is a graphical application.. who's running the cronjob... root?
[23:58] <Cody3290> Thought you were giving me an alternative for wine>.<
[23:59] <b0g4nk1d> @Cody3290 i wasnt
[23:59] <Cody3290> Interesting, though. I might try it.
[23:59] <bris> Diamondcite, I believe crontab -e is ran by user
[23:59] <bris> I'm quite sure actually
[23:59] <b0g4nk1d> @Cody3290 Firestarter only takes up 2MB of HDD space and it's pretty neat
[23:59] <b0g4nk1d> you can see who's trying to break into your box etc.
[23:59] <Cody3290> It's not space I'm worried about