[07:50] <michael__> Hobbsee, ah
[07:50] <michael__> D:
[07:50] <Assid> hrmm
[07:51] <Assid> anyone here on a dell d600 ?
[07:52] <Assid> err.. if im dling new disc.. should i get the beta or daily build ?
[07:53] <clusty> michael__, what kernel are you running?
[07:53] <michael__> let's see
[07:53] <michael__> Linux michael-laptop 2.6.22-13-generic #1 SMP Thu Oct 4 17:18:44 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:53] <clusty> hold tight
[07:54] <clusty> :D
[07:54] <clusty> the restricted modules are not out
[07:54] <michael__> clusty, How long do you think it'll take?
[07:54] <michael__> D: Right now I'm plugged into a line
[07:54] <Hobbsee> Assid: daily
[07:54] <clusty> michael__, use the 12 one
[07:54] <Hobbsee> Assid: sorry, btea.
[07:54] <michael__> clusty, kk
[07:54] <clusty> michael__, no package yet for 13 restricted
[07:54] <Amaranth> Probably don't see an archive admin to let l-r-m out of binary NEW until monday
[07:54] <Amaranth> s/don't/won't/
[07:55] <comand> doh
[07:55] <Amaranth> comand: as i told you in #ubuntu+1
[07:55] <comand> yeah
[07:55] <Amaranth> err, in #ubuntu
[07:55] <Assid> okay brb.. gotta get on my 2mbit
[07:55] <michael__> clusty, Wait, so how do I go back?
[07:55] <Amaranth> michael__: from the grub menu at boot
[07:55] <WGGMk> clusty: will i need to redownload broadcom firmware when the restricted modules are released for 13.. or can i use the old firmware?
[07:55] <michael__> Amaranth, ah
[07:55] <michael__> D: k
[07:55] <Amaranth> michael__: it probably says 'press esc to show menu'
[07:56] <clusty> check grub config
[07:56] <clusty> make sure you get to choose kernel
[07:56] <clusty> if not move the 12 one first
[07:57] <michael__> I just moved around the kernels in menu.lst
[07:57] <michael__> :)
[07:57] <clusty> michael__, gr8
[07:57] <Amaranth> I just built the package locally :P
[07:57] <clusty> how do you do that?
[07:57] <Amaranth> takes awhile
[07:57] <clusty> nvm then :D
[07:58] <clusty> help help
[07:58] <clusty> :D
[07:58] <clusty> suspend aint working :((((((((((((((
[07:58] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get build-essential && sudo apt-get build-dep linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic && sudo apt-get -b source linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic
[07:58] <clusty> thats it?
[07:58] <clusty> :D"
[08:01] <DM|> Ok help me out guys, ive tried 7.04 7.10, and 7.04 alternate CD, no matter what i still get a kernel panic when trying to install from scratch, any ideas?
[08:02] <clusty> DM|, what hardward do you have?
[08:02] <clusty> hardware*
[08:02] <clusty> some cutting edge new stuff?
[08:02] <DM|> 850 mhz pent 3, 160gb hd, 860+ ram (Forget number)
[08:02] <DM|> no older stuff
[08:03] <clusty> any hints to why it panics?
[08:04] <WGGMk> DM|: what kind of kernel panic?
[08:04] <DM|> lemme go back to that terminal one sec
 Kernel Panic - not syncing: attemted to kill the idle Task!
[08:05] <WGGMk> DM|: i dunno if id run Ubuntu on your system.. did you ever try DSL?
[08:05] <DM|> damn small linux, no
[08:05] <clusty> DM|, no idea really
[08:06] <clusty> hardware changed a lot since p3
[08:06] <clusty> and so did hardware support
[08:06] <WGGMk> DM|: it might be more appealing as far as "performance" is concerned
[08:06] <DM|> L (
[08:06] <WGGMk> doesnt Ubuntu have a tiny distro?
[08:06] <clusty> ..or a BSD
[08:06] <DM|> Performance is fine on it, that was never a problem
[08:06] <clusty> :D
[08:06] <DM|> I had ubuntu at one point on that pc
[08:06] <WGGMk> DM|: oh, that changes things
[08:07] <WGGMk> DM| : do you have any weird add on cards?
[08:07] <DM|> i unplugged pretty much all of them
[08:08] <DM|> even changed vid cards
[08:08] <DM|> lemme try disconnecting some HDDs
[08:08] <WGGMk> DM|: i dunno what else it could be.. which was the last distro of bunty you had working?
[08:09] <Ahadiel> Anyone have issues with Deluge-torrent?
[08:09] <Ahadiel> It just crashes when I try to run it =/
[08:09] <org_> There isn't a version of deluge for Gutsy.
[08:09] <org_> its all for feisty there. isnt it?
[08:10] <clusty> org_, i got a newer deluge
[08:10] <Ahadiel> It's in the repos D: And there's a gutsy version on their site.
[08:10] <clusty> from site
[08:10] <Ahadiel> clusty, I tried the one from the site, but it still crashes
[08:10] <org_> clusty, for gutsy? I was in the site. there is no gutsy version
[08:10] <org_> but whatever makes you hapy you know.
[08:10] <Ahadiel> I'll try removing my .deluge directory
[08:10] <clusty> org_, http://download.deluge-torrent.org/index.php?dir=ubuntu/gutsy/0.5.5/&file=deluge-torrent_0.5.5-2_i386.deb
[08:11] <org_> thanks i now use transmission
[08:11] <org_> its pretty good
[08:11] <jaek_> so the nvidia restricted driver is supposed to work on gusty?
[08:11] <org_> jaek_, yeah
[08:11] <org_> jaek_, i mean it doesn't work.
[08:12] <org_> jaek_, you can't install nvidia driver, not today.
[08:12] <jaek_> k, cus when i run that configure thing i cant get it to accept the nvidia driver
[08:12] <WGGMk> jaek_: like i said in #ubuntu, you shouldnt need to install the package from nVidia.. Gusty does it for you.. using the open source version
[08:13] <jaek_> using nv, right
[08:13] <WGGMk> jaek_: oops.. sorry
[08:13] <org_> jaek_, yea im using "nv" too
[08:13] <jaek_> but i'm trying to get the "nvidia" driver to work
[08:13] <org_> jaek_, just for now tho
[08:13] <org_> jaek_, you can't.
[08:13] <wedderburn> when are the linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-13-generic for gutsy going to be available, thanks.
[08:13] <org_> i been throw this, for a long time
[08:13] <WGGMk> jaek_: my xorg.conf says im using nVidia.. installed from restricted drivers manager
[08:13] <jaek_> org_, so, when gusty is officially released nvidia isnt going to work either?
[08:13] <gunny> I'm trying qbittorrent it its at RC3 stage seems pretty good
[08:14] <org_> jaek_, each time i restart X. i got a window pop that says "ubuntu is running in low graphic mode" then i configure back to "nv" so it work..
[08:14] <org_> it only work in "nv"
[08:14] <org_> nothing else
[08:14] <jaek_> org_, yeah same here
[08:14] <org_> jaek_, yea man, its been horrible for me too.. only thing we can do, is to wait.
[08:14] <jaek_> WGGMk, please post your xorg.conf on pastebin or something
[08:14] <org_> meanwhile you can't start games or restart X. just wait
[08:14] <WGGMk> jaek: sec
[08:14] <jaek_> i might downgrade
[08:14] <wedderburn> i got the same issue its cause the restricted modules arn't in yet for when are the linux-2.6.22-13
[08:14] <org_> jaek_, downgrade what? Kernel??
[08:14] <jaek_> i jsut did a fresh install so it wont be bad to do it again
[08:14] <MasterShrek> org_, did u try the driver from nvidia's site?
[08:14] <org_> MasterShrek, yea it can't work
[08:15] <org_> MasterShrek, its from gutsy
[08:15] <jaek_> MasterShrek, no, i dont want to go outside the package manager
[08:15] <MasterShrek> its just your vid card driver, but w/e
[08:15] <DM|> WGGMk it was a bad stick of memory.... lol
[08:15] <MasterShrek> its not like its re-configuring your entire system, its one driver, i mean in a windows install you install a billion different drivers from all over the place
[08:15] <org_> MasterShrek, no its not, I got the CD driver from my vga box.
[08:15] <org_> MasterShrek, and it didnt work
[08:16] <WGGMk> DM|: nice.. i was thinking hardware... good troubleshooting man
[08:16] <org_> MasterShrek, do you have gutsy?
[08:16] <MasterShrek> yes
[08:16] <org_> MasterShrek, nvidia vga card?
[08:16] <MasterShrek> yes
[08:16] <WGGMk> jaek_: http://pastebin.org/4234
[08:16] <org_> and its installed?
[08:16] <MasterShrek> yes
[08:16] <org_> MasterShrek, when was last time you reboot system?
[08:16] <MasterShrek> runs great, fusion works fine
[08:17] <MasterShrek> all the time, i take my laptop to class every day
[08:17] <org_> no i mean today
[08:17] <org_> did you boot
[08:17] <org_> the last 3 hrs
[08:17] <MasterShrek> yea, a bunch of times
[08:17] <MasterShrek> no, whats that got to do with it?
[08:17] <org_> weird.. show me your xorg.conf pls
[08:17] <clusty> MasterShrek, what hardware is your laptop?
[08:17] <MasterShrek> um..ok?
[08:17] <jaek_> MasterShrek, seems to be using the binary from nvidia directly
[08:17] <MasterShrek> geforce go 6150
[08:18] <jaek_> WGGMk, you are using the gusty driver?
[08:18] <clusty> MasterShrek, i cant my 7400 to work
[08:18] <clusty> MasterShrek, i mean suspend
[08:18] <MasterShrek> tried nvidia's driver from their site?
[08:18] <MasterShrek> i dont suspend, never has worked well in linux
[08:18] <MasterShrek> or hibernate
[08:18] <WGGMk> jaek_: yes
[08:18] <clusty> it works just fine on my old broken p4 laptop
[08:18] <clusty> :D
[08:19] <clusty> laptop with no suspend is unacceptable :D
[08:19] <MasterShrek> if the gutsy driver doesnt work for you, used nvidia's from their website
[08:19] <MasterShrek> mine boots fast enough, i dont mind :)
[08:19] <WGGMk> jaek_: which kernel are you running?
[08:20] <jaek_> default gusty one, 2.6.24 or something
[08:20] <MasterShrek> org_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39740/
[08:20] <MasterShrek> 2.6.22
[08:20] <jaek_> yeah i guess that one
[08:20] <org_> MasterShrek, ok here's what happen, I install my vga card driver from cd or even synaptic, i got latest nvidia drivers. (Same way i did in feisty & it worked in feisty) allright. then i configure my xorg.conf really well, I made the nvidia device in xorg. and i made it as Feisty too and in feisty it worked too. then i reboot. and strange window will pop. with a high resulotion 800x600 saying that "Ubuntu is running in low graphic mode" Then it ask me to conf
[08:20] <WGGMk> -#?
[08:20] <MasterShrek> 23 isnt even released yet, rc8 or something
[08:20] <org_> igure to pick a nvidia from a list, then my xorg.conf will be changed, & my vga will be "nv" instead of "nvidia" Thats the only way it works, why is that? because of the restidrted thats not updated from gutsy. you can't have that work until gutsy will release their restirdted modules.
[08:21] <winbond> are the firefox/flash crashes gonna be fixed in gutsy?? so far its still crashes, has been crashing forever
[08:21] <MasterShrek> org_, install the driver from nvidia
[08:21] <MasterShrek> itll work fine, you just gotta recompile it whenever your kernel gets upgraded
[08:22] <nir0> hi all! how do i turn off brightness control? it's broken to me, and when i work from battery it darkens display down to 0 :(((
[08:22] <MasterShrek> nir0, what kinda vid card u got?
[08:22] <org_> MasterShrek, why recompile it when kernel gets upgraded? Recompile the video driver from synaptic you mean? is it better than the website driver?
[08:23] <WGGMk> org_: the nvidia driver is a module.. because its closed source.. you have to install it to run it.. the kernel cant have "built in" support for it.. unless you build it in. so if you ever change your kerenel.. your going to have to reinstall and use that module
[08:23] <MasterShrek> i think the website's driver is newer, but i dont know, ive never used the ubuntu driver
[08:23] <nir0> MasterShrek: GeForce 8600m GT
[08:23] <MasterShrek> nir0, using restriced drivers?
[08:23] <nir0> MasterShrek: well, maybe
[08:23] <org_> WGGMk, that makes sense, but why is it not working atm. and if i get driver from nvidia website will it work?
[08:24] <WGGMk> org_: your running gusty? it SHOULD be working
[08:24] <org_> WGGMk, its not working
[08:24] <WGGMk> org_: from terminal.. sudo lsmod
[08:24] <org_> ok
[08:25] <MasterShrek> nir0, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:25] <org_> WGGMk, wait
[08:25] <nir0> MasterShrek: btw, when i'm trying to increase brightness it decreases instead (or stay 0)... even after reboot, when OS is not up
[08:25] <WGGMk> org_: did you download the restricted drivers manager? and the nvidia drivers? open the manager up and see if it says enabled
[08:25] <MasterShrek> nir0, ic
[08:25] <MasterShrek> nir0, i think mine is controlled by my bios also, ur using gutsy?
[08:25] <nir0> MasterShrek: only way to return brightness is to load vista
[08:25] <org_> WGGMk, http://pastebin.com/m6ea6e7d7
[08:25] <MasterShrek> nir0, ick =P
[08:25] <org_> WGGMk, i download restricted drivers?
[08:26] <org_> WGGMk, the restricted new one is not available thats why its not working
[08:26] <kidalabama> hello
[08:26] <kidalabama> me too
[08:26] <kidalabama> i have got same problem too.
[08:26] <WGGMk> org_: are you running 2.6.22-13?
[08:26] <MasterShrek> org_, you dont have the driver loaded there
[08:26] <MasterShrek> i spose not, like u said it wont go into x, so the module wouldnt be loaded
[08:27] <kidalabama> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic
[08:27] <WGGMk> org_: IF you use the nVidia driver FROM nvidia.. you should have a module called "nvidia" loaded after running that command
[08:27] <org_> MasterShrek, omg i tried. it cant be loaded. each time i try to install it. and ganarate my xorg.conf.. i restart X. then everything will go back to the same as my last time.. My xorg will change so is the dirver.
[08:27] <nir0> MasterShrek: yes... i'm on gusty now... on fiesty brightness control didn't work at all
[08:27] <org_> WGGMk, yes <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:27] <WGGMk> kidalabama & org_: use 2.6.22-12
[08:27] <MasterShrek> people, use nvidias drivers, ive never had any problems with it, i hear nothign but bad things about this restricted driver crap, id trust nvidia way more for support anyway
[08:27] <jaek_> The following packages have been kept back: linux-restricted-modules-generic
[08:27] <org_> WGGMk, how to i do that.
[08:28] <kidalabama> how can i turn 2.6.22-12
[08:28] <org_> MasterShrek, so even if they updated kernel you will not get newest restricted and re-compile your nvidia?
[08:28] <kidalabama> WGGMk: how can i turn 2.6.22-12
[08:28] <WGGMk> org_: like MasterShrek just said.. you can use the nvidia drivers.. its not hard to use... OR you can reboot.. and when your thing comes up hit ESC (ya know when GRUB loader comes up) and select it fromthe kernel lsit
[08:29] <MasterShrek> org_, yes, i just keep the driver in my directory, and when it updates a kernel and i get stuck out of x, i recompile it, takes 30 seconds to a minute, and im back in x
[08:29] <org_> i'll do what MasterShrek said.
[08:29] <org_> ill try it
[08:29] <WGGMk> kidalabama: like i just told org_..
[08:29] <se7en^Of^9> does compiz not have the maximize, minimize,close bar (sorry i don;t know how it;s called) or is this a bug
[08:29] <MasterShrek> org_, you cant be in x when you install it though
[08:29] <kidalabama> when will create ne linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic
[08:29] <kidalabama> WGGMk: when will create ne linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic
[08:29] <org_> WGGMk, is there a driver for linux in nvidia website? I'm actually using a nvidia gforce 7300 GS
[08:29] <nir0> MasterShrek: so, you can't say how to turn off brightness control?
[08:29] <WGGMk> kidalabama: i have no idea
[08:30] <WGGMk> org_: yea..
[08:30] <MasterShrek> im not sure on that nir0, i think its a bios thing, and im guessing theres probably no support in the kernel for that particular bios option
[08:30] <MasterShrek> org_, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[08:30] <jaek_> damn i wish gnome didnt try to push evolution down my throat... i never use it
[08:30] <WGGMk> org_: its pretty much 1 size fits all
[08:30] <bazhang> hi! how to start up from a Vista machine from the CD drive so I can install Kubuntu over it?
[08:30] <org_> hmm
[08:30] <MasterShrek> jaek_, its not as annoying as totem
[08:30] <kidalabama> WGGMk: i am now using now wired network.
[08:30] <bazhang> Thanks!
[08:30] <org_> MasterShrek, is that for all kind of gforce nvidia??
[08:31] <WGGMk> jaek_: how exactly is it pushing it down your throat lol
[08:31] <nir0> MasterShrek: support is now exists, but its broken!
[08:31] <MasterShrek> org_, yea, it will compile itself for your card i think
[08:31] <jaek_> WGGMk, uh, can you remove it cleanly?
[08:31] <org_> MasterShrek, so do i need to quit X
[08:31] <org_> then download that file?
[08:31] <jaek_> WGGMk, i think gnome depends on having it... might be wrong
[08:31] <org_> and compile it
[08:31] <MasterShrek> nir0, what kernel are you using? uname -a
[08:31] <WGGMk> jaek_: i never tried.. prolly has gnome as a dependancy though so i wouldnt
[08:31] <MasterShrek> org_, yea, youll have to drop to tty1 or whatever, and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:31] <nir0> MasterShrek: Linux nir0-acer-aspire 2.6.22-12-generic #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 18:11:30 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:32] <org_> this seems so hard
[08:32] <se7en^Of^9> does compiz not have the maximize, minimize,close bar (sorry i don;t know how it;s called) or is this a bug i use kubuntu gutsy
[08:32] <MasterShrek> i dunno for soure nir0, my buddy had an acer laptop that would never run right in linux
[08:32] <nir0> se7en^Of^9: your question is not for compiz
[08:33] <nir0> se7en^Of^9: but for emerald or gtk-window-decorator
[08:33] <jaek_> how do i see why a package is being held back?
[08:33] <MasterShrek> org_, make sure you chmod a+x NVIDIA....    so its executeable
[08:33] <MasterShrek> jaek_, doesnt it tell you?
[08:33] <se7en^Of^9> nir0: i got emerald installed
[08:34] <gunny> se7en^Of^9: sounds like your missing the windows decorators
[08:34] <MasterShrek> se7en^Of^9, run emerald --replace
[08:34] <jaek_> linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic but it is not installable
[08:34] <nir0> se7en^Of^9: try "emerald --replace"
[08:34] <se7en^Of^9> ok thanks i will try
[08:34] <nir0> se7en^Of^9: and then emerald-themes-manager
[08:34] <MasterShrek> jaek_, try opening synaptic and see if it can give you more info
[08:34] <jaek_> kk
[08:35] <org_> so i do "sh NVIDIA-Linux-ia64-1.0-5336-pkg1.run"
[08:35] <org_> and then run X? Thats all MasterShrek ?
[08:35] <MasterShrek> org_, yea or ./NVIDIA....
[08:35] <MasterShrek> ur running intel 64 bit?
[08:36] <MasterShrek> org_, to start x afterwards: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:36] <org_> I think so
[08:36] <org_> maybe intel 128
[08:36] <org_> now how do i quit from X
[08:36] <MasterShrek> org_, paste the output of uname -a  for me before u do this
[08:36] <nir0> org_: you should let installer to edit xorg if its first install
[08:37] <org_> Linux nawaf.com 2.6.22-13-generic #1 SMP Thu Oct 4 17:18:44 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:37] <MasterShrek> org_, u downloaded the wrong driver
[08:37] <org_> nir0, how to let installer to edit xorg?
[08:37] <MasterShrek> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.19.html org_
[08:37] <MasterShrek> org_, it will ask you at the end of the install if u want it to update your xorg
[08:38] <MasterShrek> you can say no if u got it set up yourself
[08:38] <MasterShrek> it will still use nvidia as the driver, just like the ubuntu like driver would
[08:38] <WGGMk> org_: download the file.. then quit X by CTRL+ALT+F1 then login and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then "sudo sh NVIDIA_REST_OF_FILE.pkg" follow steps.. then after your done.. "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start or restart"
[08:38] <WGGMk> MasterShrek: you shouldnt have to do that
[08:38] <WGGMk> se7en^Of^9: its prolly a bug.. trying download the emerald theme and then running "emerald --replace &"
[08:38] <WGGMk> should be sudo apt-get isntall emerald
[08:38] <WGGMk> install*
[08:38] <org_> dang... my gnome is becoming so slow... why is that, is it because vga not installed? :/
[08:38] <jaek_> what is the difference between nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new
[08:38] <nox-Hand> Is it correct that within the last 24 hours, 124mb of upgrades (259) have been added to update list?
[08:38] <MasterShrek> org_, could be
[08:39] <Hobbsee> nox-Hand: likely
[08:39] <org_> WGGMk, thanks. that was helpful
[08:39] <org_> MasterShrek, ok thanks
[08:39] <org_> will do that now
[08:39] <MasterShrek> good luck
[08:39] <se7en^Of^9> WGGMk: got it installed and emerald --replace nothing changed do i have to run compiz now?
[08:39] <nox-Hand> Hobbsee: Well, I was more thinking if anyone could check (do an apt-get update, upgrade
[08:39] <org_> WGGMk, btw, ctrl+alt+f1 will kill my current X or make it on hold?
[08:40] <MasterShrek> org_, on hold, ctrl+alt+f7 brings you back
[08:40] <Hobbsee> nox-Hand: and the chances that they have exacltly the same packages as you is...
[08:40] <WGGMk> org_: will make it hold
[08:40] <org_> ok, but "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" will kill it right?
[08:40] <MasterShrek> org_, yes
[08:41] <org_> ok brb.. let me go fast before i forget these
[08:41] <nox-Hand> Hobbsee: Haha, touch
[08:41] <Hobbsee> nox-Hand: not overly - more just amused at your lack of thought before you asked your question :)
[08:41] <jaek_> what is the "new" nvidia-glx driver for?
[08:41] <WGGMk> org_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop MEANS Gnome Display Manager Stop
[08:41] <WGGMk> se7en: "emerald --replace &" should work..
[08:42] <MasterShrek> its probably just a newer version of it jaek_, nvidia periodically releases driver updates, and i would assume ubuntu doesnt update the right away
[08:42] <nox-Hand> Hobbsee: Got out of bed about... 2 mins ago :P I always do upgrades first thing :) (made a short script that does update, upgrade and dist-upgrade)
[08:42] <se7en^Of^9> WGGMk: nop nothing ...
[08:43] <Hobbsee> nox-Hand: haha.
[08:44] <jaek_> k, i think i understand why nvidia wont load
[08:44] <WGGMk> org_: yea it will kill it
[08:44] <MasterShrek> org_'s been gone for 3 minutes lol
[08:44] <jaek_> linux-restricted-modules-generic wants to upgrade to match the kernel, but the linux-restricted-modules-common package isnt up to date
[08:44] <WGGMk> se7en: i dunno man.. is compiz running? make sure you have that running to.. try restarting X.. CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[08:45] <MasterShrek> jaek_, can u upgrade linux-restricted-modules-common package?
[08:45] <jaek_> MasterShrek, no, because it isnt available
[08:45] <org_> Haha
[08:45] <MasterShrek> interesting
[08:45] <org_> MasterShrek, I told you, it never will work. you didn't believe me.
[08:45] <MasterShrek> what did u have again? 7300?
[08:45] <org_> yeah 7300 GS
[08:45] <jaek_> MasterShrek, "latest version" is <IP_ADDRESS> while -generic has <IP_ADDRESS> available
[08:46] <Starcraftmazter> yeh I got that as well
[08:46] <org_> It's not the driver... because, whenever my gdm want to startup. It will go to a 800x600 resulotion black screen, and popup a window that says "ubuntu is running in low graphic mode" Chose to configure or cancel or continue
[08:46] <jaek_> so guys, if you are fortunate to be running <IP_ADDRESS>, do not upgrade
[08:46] <org_> whatever I click, it won't start. it'll pop this window again, unless if i choose configure then go to "NV" and click ok
[08:46] <edulix> hi
[08:46] <org_> what will that do? It'll change the xorg.conf again.
[08:47] <edulix> which package contains manpages for opengl?
[08:47] <org_> and run the lamest desktop i ever seen. and i cant run games or anything
[08:47] <Hobbsee> jaek_: it's still proccessing.  this happens *every* *single* *kernel*  *upload*  *with*  *an*  * api*  *bump*.
[08:47] <Hobbsee> this should not be new to people.
[08:47] <edulix> something like http://www.hmug.org/man/3/glTexImage2D.php
[08:47] <jaek_> Hobbsee, ah i see, first time i'm using an unstable branch
[08:47] <org_> i actually clicked on "PrntScrn" buttom while i was there... does that take a screenshot? If so where can i put it?
[08:48] <MasterShrek> org_, did u let it upgrade your xorg after the driver was installed?
[08:48] <jaek_> Hobbsee, so what am i supposed to do then?
[08:48] <org_> MasterShrek, yep
[08:49] <org_> but the thing i just talked to you about, It does that everytime, it replace my xorg.conf to something else to make X work like this. retardly bad.
[08:49] <Hobbsee> jaek_: wait.  keep updating.  if you need nvidia stuff, go back to the older kernel version in grub
[08:49] <winbond> are the firefox/flash crashes gonna be fixed in gutsy?? so far its still crashes, has been crashing forever
[08:49] <jaek_> Hobbsee, i dont have any older kernels, i just installed from the beta3 cd... so i guess i'll download the 7.04 cd and install over again?
[08:50] <Hobbsee> jaek_: ...there is no beta 3.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> winbond: do they happen with gnash and firefox?
[08:50] <WGGMk> org_: sudo lsmod pastebin it.. (bathroom quick)
[08:50] <MasterShrek> winbond, firefox and flash worked fine for me in feisty and in gutsy, and im running 64 bit
[08:50] <Hobbsee> jaek_: just wait, and keep upgrading
[08:51] <MasterShrek> jaek_, or wait until gutsy is released or download the beta image
[08:51] <org_> http://pastebin.com/m75487e33
[08:52] <MasterShrek> org_, pastebin your xorg.conf and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:52] <jaek_> oh yeah... just says beta... dont know where that 3 came from
[08:52] <WGGMk> org_: did you get thru the nvidia driver install?
[08:52] <MasterShrek> jaek_, oh, i thought u were referring to tribe3 or something, yea i upgraded from feisty, seemed to work just fine
[08:53] <MasterShrek> yes he did WGGMk
[08:53] <org_> WGGMk, yep i did get thru really smooth. and it asked me to ganarate xorg.conf and i said ok
[08:53] <WGGMk> MasterShrek: lol i was just gonna ask for those files lol
[08:53] <jaek_> my fiesty was so messed up after running auto-remove a few times, so i just started over again
[08:53] <WGGMk> MasterShrek: did you notice the nvidia module isnt running???
[08:54] <jaek_> does the nv driver run compiz?
[08:54] <MasterShrek> yea, but that may be because hes not using it
[08:54] <MasterShrek> jaek_, not really i dont think
[08:54] <org_> thats my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m74ab523    (But thats the everytime xorg.conf been made by this error on gdm startup, it usually different than that before i got the error. Even if i change it now, and restart_x it will be like that after i come back on) if u know what i mean
[08:54] <MasterShrek> maybe, but it wont very good at all
[08:54] <jaek_> i'm bored so i'll give it a shot ;)
[08:55] <magnetron> jaek_: no
[08:55] <org_> MasterShrek, http://pastebin.com/mece3ea    the /var/log/Xorg
[08:56] <jaek_> WGGMk, what kernel are you running? uname -r
[08:56] <WGGMk> org_: did you restart at all after the install?
[08:56] <WGGMk> 2.6.22-12 generic
[08:56] <org_> WGGMk, nop, i did the gdm start
[08:56] <WGGMk> org_: hmm.. try sudo modprobe nvidia
[08:57] <org_> Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <MasterShrek> org_, can you pastebin one more thing, your xorg.conf after youve made your modifications
[08:58] <org_> k
[08:59] <jaek_> i'll wait one day and downgrade... cant live without running wow and compiz ;)
[08:59] <MasterShrek> org_, nvm, did u try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   ?
[08:59] <WGGMk> this puzzles me..
[09:00] <MasterShrek> WGGMk, hes missing things in that xorg.conf, it looks really lean to me
[09:00] <org_> MasterShrek, yea before i tried. and after an x restart. it'll pop the window again and change xorg.conf again to that one i already posted :)
[09:00] <org_> every single time, if i write "hii" in xorg.conf, it'll change it again to that one u have
[09:00] <MasterShrek> weird
[09:00] <winbond> Hobbsee, gnash is so broken it wont play anything
[09:01] <MasterShrek> org_, fix your xorg.conf again, kill your gdm, and run startx as your user and see if it does it
[09:01] <winbond> MasterShrek, flash has been crashing for ever as far as i can remember using linux
[09:01] <WGGMk> org_: what gcard do you have? laptop or desktop?
[09:01] <org_> MasterShrek, it does the same man....
[09:01] <org_> desktop
[09:01] <MasterShrek> flash runs just fine for me, and in 32 bit it runs really nice
[09:02] <WGGMk> yea im using amd64 gusty and adobe flash from restricted drivers and its smooth
[09:02] <WGGMk> org_: what gcard do you have?
[09:03] <org_> gcard? whats that sorry
[09:03] <org_> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[09:03] <org_>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071006100240
[09:03] <WGGMk> org: Graphic Card.. and is it AGP / PCI / PCIe?
[09:03] <MasterShrek> pciE i think the 7300 is
[09:03] <WGGMk> org_: did you CHMOD that NVIDIA packagte?
[09:04] <org_> WGGMk, yep
[09:04] <org_> WGGMk, did it get installed?
[09:04] <org_> now i changed xorg.conf to that. http://pastebin.com/md5f0be
[09:04] <org_> and look, if i restart X now, it'll go back to the pervious xorg.conf where it say "Device"    "nv" :)
[09:05] <org_> WGGMk, my vga is 7300 GS, i think PCI
[09:06] <WGGMk> org_: delete that packages.. redownload the package.. DO NOT CHANGE the ownership
[09:06] <org_> what packages
[09:06] <WGGMk> org_: the nvidia driver.. the installer.. redownload it (after you deleted the old one) and reinstall them.. using sudo
[09:07] <org_> the packages i installed about nvidia from synaptic you mean, yes?
[09:07] <WGGMk> org_: dont change the owner ship.. leave it as is.. make sure your on the sudo list.. IE: sudo visudo... look for your name.. if your nto there copy the root (with your name instead)
[09:07] <blekos> hello
[09:08] <WGGMk> org_: the nvidia packages.. go to the nvidia site.. redownload the drivers.. dont use the CHMOD'ed package
[09:08] <blekos> guys i really need ur help. last night i did and update. The new kernel 2.6.22-13 was installed. One I try to boot from that kernel
[09:08] <blekos> i get the message kinit no resume image
[09:08] <org_> WGGMk, ok
[09:08] <blekos> but when i boot from -12 everythings seems 2 work fine
[09:08] <org_> WGGMk, how do i uninstall the first package i downloaded?
[09:08] <WGGMk> blekos: try and keep your questions to 1-2 lines
[09:08] <blekos> ok
[09:09] <WGGMk> org_: its not installed.. and if it is.. when you install the new package.. it will notify you and ask you to uninstall it
[09:09] <org_> WGGMk, ok i deleted & redownloaded
[09:09] <MasterShrek> org_, try this xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39742/
[09:09] <WGGMk> blekos: the -13 kernel was just intro'ed today.. i would recommend using the -12 kernel
[09:09] <org_> MasterShrek, you want me to try this xorg.conf?
[09:10] <MasterShrek> yes
[09:10] <org_> MasterShrek, can y ou put it in pastebin pls?
[09:10] <org_> ubuntu paste = it copy numbers
[09:10] <blekos> i c, do u thing is has to do with UUID?
[09:10] <MasterShrek> oh, aight one sec
[09:10] <WGGMk> org_: kill X and reinstall the nvidia drivers using the "sudo " command
[09:10] <blekos> the thing is i've changed everything (i think) of my uuid to /dev/sdax
[09:10] <MasterShrek> http://pastebin.com/m2325f744 org_
[09:11] <WGGMk> blekos: im not too familiar with /dev/sdax
[09:11] <org_> ok MasterShrek done, i got it in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf now
[09:11] <org_> MasterShrek, but it will change ;)
[09:11] <org_> WGGMk, sudo ./NVIDIA.....etc?
[09:11] <WGGMk> org_: no..
[09:12] <MasterShrek> blekos, that shouldnt have anything to do with it, unless you physically move the drives, or switch cables
[09:12] <MasterShrek> org_, that should work
[09:12] <WGGMk> org_: just kill x and "sudo sh NVIDIA-whater.pkg.sh"
[09:12] <MasterShrek> its a .run
[09:12] <org_> WGGMk, its .run
[09:12] <MasterShrek> you have to chmod it because its not executable when you download it
[09:12] <blekos> well, it has to do, I have a laptop and UUID has changed about 3 times, depending on the updates/upgrades of (k)ubuntu
[09:12] <WGGMk> org_: yea.. sorry lol its late here
[09:13] <org_> WGGMk, okay, so no chmod right?
[09:13] <WGGMk> org_: NO.. just use sudo (it gives you temporary admin/root rights)
[09:13] <MasterShrek> blekos, thats probably true, but i got rid of all the uuids in my fstab and im using just the device names, runs fine
[09:13] <WGGMk> org_: you want to install that .run package as 'root'
[09:13] <MasterShrek> WGGMk, the file isnt executable, no matter what user he is
[09:13] <org_> WGGMk, okay.. after that i do "reboot" or just "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" ??
[09:13] <MasterShrek> org_, you can just start gdm
[09:14] <blekos> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/2007/08/31/ubuntu-and-uuid/
[09:14] <WGGMk> org_: DONT reboot
[09:14] <org_> ok
[09:14] <org_> that what i did last time
[09:14] <MasterShrek> org_, that sholdnt matter
[09:14] <WGGMk> org_: you need to keep that nvidia module running..s o no reboot
[09:14] <MasterShrek> its installed, its not going anywhere
[09:14] <org_> it changed xorg.conf and the stupid window poped up saying "Ubuntu is running in low graphic mode"
[09:14] <org_> then it changed my xorg.conf
[09:14] <MasterShrek> WGGMk, the module wont even be running until he starts x
[09:14] <org_> ok
[09:14] <org_> ill try it now
[09:14] <org_> brb
[09:15] <WGGMk> MasterShrek: i know.. but rebooting can screw it up.. he needs to tell the system to modprove nvidia
[09:15] <blekos> i've got rid off them as well but kernel .13 wont like it
[09:15] <blekos> i've even changed my resume
[09:15] <MasterShrek> if he didnt compile it as root before, thats his problem, im sure the nvidia drivers support this card
[09:15] <WGGMk> MasterShrek: thats what im saying.. you told him to CHMOD the pacakge.. he shouldnt have done that
[09:16] <MasterShrek> blekos, well i noticed that even ide drives come up as sd.. not hd.. anymore, which is very strange
[09:16] <MasterShrek> WGGMk, it needs to be chmod'ed because it wont be executable by anyone when he downloads it
[09:16] <MasterShrek> 644 or something
[09:16] <WGGMk> MasterShrek: no it doesnt
[09:16] <WGGMk> sudo sh NVIDIA will run the install like ./install.sh
[09:17] <org_> hey back, its me from console (Full terminal)
[09:17] <org_> when i ran "sudo sh NVIDIA....etc"
[09:17] <org_> it said "There is already a version of nvidia installed, (Version) Are you sure you want to continue?"
[09:17] <MasterShrek> yes continue org_
[09:17] <org_> It might overwirite, so i came to ask.
[09:17] <WGGMk> org_: and?>
[09:17] <org_> ok but I just thought since i already got it installed, that won't fix the problem
[09:18] <org_> i'll get this window pop that ubuntu is running in low graphic
[09:18] <org_> and it'll change my xorg again
[09:18] <org_> wait, i'll give it a try then start gdm
[09:18] <org_> and come from xchat
[09:18] <org_> brb
[09:18] <blekos> ok, i do a dist upgrade and i have a package held-back, why is that?
[09:18] <WGGMk> org_: run from terminal "sudo lsmod" and post pastebin
[09:19] <WGGMk> blekos: it probably depends on something you dont have
[09:19] <FossZombie> blekos, what package is it
[09:19] <blekos> linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:19] <blekos> !!!
[09:19] <pax> blekos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=568361
[09:21] <WGGMk> org_: run from terminal "sudo lsmod" and post pastebin
[09:21] <org_> ok
[09:21] <org_> http://pastebin.com/m53d418be
[09:21] <org_> let me know if that means my driver is installed or not ok
[09:22] <MasterShrek> its not org_
[09:22] <blekos> pax, that explains a lot
[09:22] <MasterShrek> org_, run this in a terminal: locate nvidia.ko
[09:22] <WGGMk> MasterShrek: why the hell isnt it loading his nvidia module
[09:23] <org_> MasterShrek, but funny thin is. the xorg.conf didn't change this time
[09:23] <MasterShrek> ?
[09:23] <org_> MasterShrek, + I didn't get this weird resulotion :)
[09:23] <blekos> but one thing is that i do not get... is it necessary for a kernel to function to have the linux-restricted-modules-generic installed?
[09:23] <org_> MasterShrek, and the window that says ubuntu is running in low graphic, didnt shows.
[09:23] <NTAuthority> blekos: nope, it only has some drivers
[09:23] <MasterShrek> org_, thats good news
[09:23] <WGGMk> org_: do you have an ssh account by chance?
[09:23] <NTAuthority> blekos: which you probably need with specific hardware
[09:23] <org_> yea but i still can't play games + I still feel that colors can be better
[09:23] <Linux_Galore> hmm Kubuntu seems to not have a simple UI tool to setup scanners, Im manually editing my sane settings
[09:24] <org_> WGGMk, I can make one
[09:24] <MasterShrek> org_, see if these two commands give you any output: lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:24] <WGGMk> org_: please do.. id like to poke around
[09:24] <MasterShrek> and this: locate nvidia.ko
[09:24] <NTAuthority> Linux_Galore: kcontrol has an scanner config, didn't it? (no, not the normal kubuntu config panel :( )
[09:24] <WGGMk> org_: yea try those..
[09:24] <org_> MasterShrek, none of them both gave any results.
[09:24] <blekos> but then, i shouldnt get the message of not finding a suitable resume image
[09:24] <MasterShrek> org_, that means you dont have your nvidia driver correctly installed
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> NTAuthority: not good, a newbie would look in the setting window first
[09:25] <MasterShrek> org_, did you get any errors during the install?
[09:25] <org_> MasterShrek, nop, not any error
[09:25] <NTAuthority> Linux_Galore: the kubuntu settings panel does not have many important settings which the normal kcontrol does have :(
[09:25] <MasterShrek> org_, whats the filename of the nvidia driver you are using?
[09:25] <org_> MasterShrek, it downloaded the kernel module and stuff, then ftp to website & downloading things.. after that it asked me to ganarate an xorg.conf and i said no, because you gave me one.
[09:26] <org_> MasterShrek, then thats it, I started gdm and it logged to X really cool for the first time no errors.
[09:26] <org_> but thing is. i still can't play games or The colors arent good enough.. not like back when i was in feisty u know
[09:26] <MasterShrek> org_, you are going to have to do the install again, dont download one from the internet and make it compile the module itself
[09:26] <Linux_Galore> NTAuthority: Im also finding many of the settings tools dont interact with services properly forcing the user to go back and do the bloody obvious and start it
[09:26] <org_> MasterShrek, I made it compile the module by itself.. i didnt touch it the last time
[09:27] <MasterShrek> ok, didnt u just say it ftp'd the website and downloaded stuff?
[09:27] <WGGMk> org_: run this sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:27] <MasterShrek> WGGMk, i was just about to suggest that
[09:27] <MasterShrek> =P
[09:27] <WGGMk> great minds think alike
[09:27] <org_> i done that
[09:27] <org_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[09:27] <MasterShrek> guess so
[09:27] <MasterShrek> hmm
[09:28] <org_> i done that long ago... i readed up some pages in google about these problems
[09:28] <MasterShrek> org_, whats the filename of that nvidia driver you are installing?
[09:28] <Linux_Galore> Im finding it very hard to actually use Kubuntu without swapping back to my geek habbit of using a terminal, sigh
[09:28] <WGGMk> org_: the FULL file name
[09:28] <org_> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[09:28] <org_> that?
[09:28] <WGGMk> org_: what proc you have?
[09:28] <MasterShrek> ok org_ just making sure
[09:28] <org_> proc?
[09:28] <WGGMk> org_ x86 or amd64?
[09:28] <org_> x86 i have
[09:28] <WGGMk> org_: k
[09:29] <hype_> Hmm, still no linux-resticted-modules today?!
[09:29] <org_> hype_, no..
[09:29] <MasterShrek> Linux_Galore, that little menu button, to the right of the spacebar, i got it mapped to konsole =P
[09:29] <sylpheedClaws> I'm having an issue with the installer crashing at 86% (and I suspect I'm not the only one)
[09:29] <sylpheedClaws> has this been fixed?
[09:29] <MasterShrek> what gives you that idea sylpheedClaws
[09:29] <sylpheedClaws> I heard someone mention it on Digg
[09:29] <org_> sylpheedClaws, you are the only!
[09:30] <MasterShrek> ic
[09:30] <NTAuthority> (one thing which i find weird, the gutsy beta desktop cd does not start the gnome settings daemon on an old 845 onboard graphics system, but DOES have compiz, or something that looks like it :|)
[09:30] <sylpheedClaws> it freezes when it tries to download the language packs
[09:30] <WGGMk> MasterShreak: uname -r which nvidia drivers? ubuntu or nvidia site?
[09:30] <sylpheedClaws> I can abort it, but the install stops completely at 86%
[09:30] <MasterShrek> sylpheedClaws, take it offline and then try installing, do upgrades after reboot
[09:30] <org_> WGGMk, i created acc. for you.. did you see the pass? I sent you a notice
[09:31] <org_> but appartnly i can't send privates. because i'm not registered
[09:31] <org_> sec.
[09:31] <sylpheedClaws> I'll try that, thanks
[09:31] <sylpheedClaws> and by the way, there's been a bug filed about it on Launchpad
[09:31] <Linux_Galore> MasterShrek: I use yakuake mapped to F12
[09:31] <sylpheedClaws> 9 hours ago
[09:31] <sylpheedClaws> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/149629
[09:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 149629 in ubuntu "Installation stops while languagepacks are downloaded" [Undecided,New]
[09:31] <MasterShrek> !info yakuake
[09:31] <WGGMk> org_: no i didnt... you have AIM?
[09:31] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[09:31] <Linux_Galore> MasterShrek: nicest term on Kubuntu
[09:32] <MasterShrek> whys that?
[09:32] <org_> WGGMk, i have msn
[09:32] <WGGMk> org_: snd me the IP
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> MasterShrek: well it runs in the background but when you hit f12 a terminal slides down from the top of the screen
[09:32] <MasterShrek> ill take a look for you too if u want org_
[09:32] <MasterShrek> Linux_Galore, ill take a look...
[09:32] <Sontaxh> Is this the channel for the beta ?
[09:32] <org_> WGGMk, you got the user & pass?
[09:33] <Sontaxh> i got an driver problem
[09:33] <Sh4wn> Hi
[09:33] <org_> MasterShrek, thanks.
[09:33] <Sontaxh> i just updated my kernel (i have an 7300go) and it wont boot at my normal resolution 1280x800
[09:34] <sylpheedClaws> !info 915resolution
[09:34] <Blackgoth> recompile the nvidia driver module Sontaxh
[09:34] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> MasterShrek: when I was showing Linux of at Cebit everyone loved Yakuake when I used it, its one of those apps you would have expected apple to have designed
[09:34] <Sh4wn> After today's upgrades, I can't boot anymore, while booting, it says it can't detect my Graphics card and Screen properly, and asks if I want to run in Low Graphics Mode. But Then It blinks 3 times, and shows the dialog again.
[09:35] <vmlinuz`> MasterShrek, I have load "glx" in my xorg.conf right? but why the games give me this error. err:wgl:X11DRV_wglGetProcAddress No libGL on this box - disabling OpenGL support
[09:35] <Sh4wn> so I press the shutdown button, and then I get the text mode only root shell.
[09:35] <Linux_Galore> Sh4wn: graphics card ?
[09:35] <Sh4wn> Linux_Galore yes
[09:35] <Sh4wn> oh
[09:35] <Linux_Galore> Sh4wn: whats is it
[09:35] <Sh4wn> nvidia 8600GT
[09:35] <WGGMk> org_: i got the user name and password but i need your IP address to connect
[09:35] <Sh4wn> and yes
[09:35] <MasterShrek> Linux_Galore, thats cool!
[09:35] <WGGMk> org_: and if your behind a router.. you need to forward port 22
[09:35] <Sh4wn> I've got the drivers
[09:36] <alecwh> Hello! I have the beta, and I'm connected to my network. I can download packages, and install things (apt-get), but I can't access any websites or IM networks. I've got 2 other fiesty computers working fine, and my /etc/resolv.conf matches with all of them. If I ping the website I want to access, get the IP, and put that into the browser, it DOES work. But domains don't. Can someone help?
[09:36] <vmlinuz`> Sh4wn, same as me.
[09:36] <MasterShrek> vmlinuz`, yea your behind a router
[09:36] <vmlinuz`> Sh4wn, thats my problem today... whole day. It's from the kernel
[09:36] <vmlinuz`> MasterShrek, yeah
[09:36] <Sh4wn> yeah think so too
[09:36] <vmlinuz`> WGGMk, ok wait
[09:36] <vmlinuz`> WGGMk, this is my nick now, use it so i hilight lol wait
[09:36] <Linux_Galore> Sh4wn: ok just change the nvidia driver on /etc/x11/xorg.conf  to "nv" and it will work then you can fix it in a gui
[09:36] <Sh4wn> ok I'll try
[09:37] <vmlinuz`> MasterShrek & WGGMk .. try now
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> Sh4wn:   vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf   hit i to edit the file, go down to the driver section, change nvidia to "nv"  then press   esc  then type :wq
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> Sh4wn: now type startx
[09:38] <WGGMk> vmlinuz: i dont have your IP address
[09:40] <Sh4wn> Linux_Galore ok thanks
[09:40] <PumpkinPositive> Does anyone know what version of ntfs-3g is going to ship with 7.10?
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> Sh4wn: that will use the built in free nvidia driver
[09:41] <Linux_Galore> PumpkinPositive: well its installed as I type this and i didnt ask for it lol
[09:41] <alecwh> Hello! I have the beta, and I'm connected to my network. I can download packages, and install things (apt-get), but I can't access any websites or IM networks. I've got 2 other fiesty computers working fine, and my /etc/resolv.conf matches with all of them. If I ping the website I want to access, get the IP, and put that into the browser, it DOES work. But domains don't. Can someone help?+
[09:42] <Lilacor> PumpkinPositive: why? does the next version of ntfs-3g have some bugfix you need?
[09:42] <Linux_Galore> hmm no scanner tool in Kcontrol
[09:43] <Lilacor> alecwh: do your connections timeout when trying to access websites?
[09:43] <PumpkinPositive> I'm on 7.04 at the moment, and the version is 1.328 - I've been having high CPU usage issues when dealing with large files...  Something the FAQ on the ntfs-3g website is sorted out with a later version of ntfs-3g.
[09:43] <Linux_Galore> alecwh: beta of Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?
[09:43] <alecwh> Lilacor: Yes. Linux_Galore: ubuntu
[09:43] <Lilacor> PumpkinPositive: I see.
[09:43] <alecwh> Lilacor: Actually, it's like it 'half loads" and that's it.
[09:44] <schreder> are libghc6* packages outdated?
[09:44] <Lilacor> alecwh: wireless or wired?
[09:44] <alecwh> Lilacor: I've tried epiphany too. wired.
[09:44] <schreder> I get dependency errors saying that they require ghc < 6.6 and I got 6.6.1
[09:44] <Matir> PumpkinPositive, gutsy currently has 1.710
[09:45] <Lilacor> alecwh: using NAT I'm assuming....
[09:45] <Linux_Galore> alecwh: well in Kubuntu I had the same problem I just went into the network tool and disabled then enabled the network connection that fixed it, then I went into the settings in the same section and made sure "automatically connect" was turned on
[09:45] <PumpkinPositive> Great, thanks Matir
[09:45] <Matir> PumpkinPositive, np
[09:45] <Lilacor> alecwh: do you have more than one connection active?
[09:45] <alecwh> Lilacor: I'm not sure what NAT is. But I have a DSL modem. Linux_Galore: Ok. I'm actually switching ethernet cables between this computer and my laptop...
[09:46] <alecwh> Lilacor: No, my wireless card isn't working yet.
[09:46] <alecwh> And I can access the internet, it's just seems like domains get messed up
[09:47] <Linux_Galore> alecwh: thats because I suspect the user is locked out
[09:47] <Lilacor> alecwh: what if you shut off the other computers that are working and try on this box, does it work?
[09:47] <Linux_Galore> alecwh: bet if you do sudo nslookup www.google.com   it works
[09:47] <alecwh> Lilacor: I only have one computer connected, this one. I'm switching the ethernet cble betweein the too.
[09:48] <Sontaxh> Linux_Galore please answer my pm
[09:48] <alecwh> Lilacor, and Linux_Galore, I'm going to try that. I'll join back in a few minutes. Thanks. :)
[09:48] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: I dont do PM
[09:48] <Sontaxh> i have the same problem as sh4wn
[09:48] <Sontaxh> im in that file now
[09:48] <Sontaxh> But what do i need to change ?
[09:49] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: ok  the driver line change ti from "nvidia" to "nv"
[09:49] <Linux_Galore> it*
[09:49] <Sontaxh> There is a line Driver    "nvidia"
[09:49] <Sontaxh> Change that 1 ?
[09:49] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: look for Driver      "nvidia"  and change it to  Driver          "nv"
[09:50] <org_> back
[09:50] <org_> MasterShrek, I'm back from -12-generic
[09:50] <MasterShrek> ok org_ did you try to install the driver?
[09:50] <org_> nop
[09:51] <org_> do I allow it to create xorg.conf for me?
[09:51] <wers> I just upgraded to the latest kernel and on that kernel, my Ralink RT2500 does not work. any ideas on how to make this work?
[09:51] <WGGMk> yes
[09:51] <org_> WGGMk, you here man
[09:51] <MasterShrek> org_, you dont have to, your xorg should be set up already
[09:51] <Sontaxh> How do i save it than ?
[09:51] <org_> MasterShrek, setup? I thought you said its back to "nv"
[09:51] <WGGMk> org_: yea.. allow it to up
[09:51] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh:   you in vim ?
[09:51] <Sontaxh> ya
[09:52] <Sontaxh> i changed the line
[09:52] <hype_> woot, restricted modules seem there :)
[09:52] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh:  press the esc  key then type  :wq
[09:52] <Sontaxh> nothing happens ?
[09:52] <MasterShrek> org_, it is using nv
[09:52] <org_> I'm worried about something tho when i got back to -12-generic
[09:52] <MasterShrek> whats that org_ ?
[09:52] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: then you didnt press the right keys.  press esc  then type   :  w  q
[09:53] <org_> before i u sed to have Kubuntu splash screen on startup. then i deleted it completly from my PC & Removed it from options, and my splash now is another pic. when i changed kernel option to -12 as you told me, the kubuntu splash appears again, hows that and its not even in the computer?
[09:53] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: bet to you didnt type  sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:53] <compwiz18> is anyone else having issues with the gnome system monitor applet?  for me, it randomly freezes, and the wifi connection dies with it (or vice versa).  Any suggestions?
[09:53] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: the file is a system file so you need to use the sudo admin switch
[09:54] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: type esc  :q!
[09:54] <Sontaxh> o oke
[09:54] <Sontaxh> o for get that
[09:54] <org_> dont let a newbie use vim :P
[09:54] <org_> let him use nano!!
[09:54] <MasterShrek> heh
[09:54] <Blackgoth> dont let a newbie use a beta release. ever.
[09:54] <Linux_Galore> lol, I wouldnt know how to use nano
[09:54] <org_> MasterShrek, ill go to console, kill X
[09:55] <org_> and "sh NVIDIA file"
[09:55] <org_> then come back?
[09:55] <MasterShrek> ok org_
[09:55] <org_> brb
[09:55] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: same as before but use sudo  vim /etc....
[09:55] <Blackgoth> Sontaxh: just copy paste this: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:56] <Linux_Galore> Blackgoth: eeer he is in a terminal ?
[09:56] <Sontaxh> Than the xorg file is empty ?
[09:56] <Blackgoth> yes in a terminal
[09:56] <Blackgoth> Sontaxh: the xorg file is empty?
[09:56] <Sontaxh> met sudo ja
[09:57] <Blackgoth> please use english in this channel.
[09:57] <Linux_Galore> Blackgoth:  so he is in a terminal with no mouse and X isnt running and you want him to cut and past
[09:57] <Linux_Galore> heh
[09:57] <alecw1> Hello! I just recently joined, and I restarted my PC. Linux_Galore, that command you gave me worked!
[09:57] <org_> MasterShrek: it gives error now
[09:57] <org_> im in console atm with irssi
[09:57] <Blackgoth> Linux_Galore: copy paste, type after me, who cares. #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[09:57] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: But it only works for google, I still have problems with every other site. I tried restarting the connection and the modem, no success.
[09:57] <MasterShrek> good news org_ thats progress =D
[09:57] <WGGMk> org_: dont do anything right now ok
[09:57] <org_> MasterShrek: lets join both a screen so u can see what i see. i remember thats possible somehow
[09:57] <Sontaxh> Ok im in sudo vim now
[09:58] <org_> WGGMk: why
[09:58] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: yeah, but now you dont have 3D
[09:58] <alecw1> 3D?
[09:58] <hype_> org_ , screen -x
[09:58] <org_> hype_: yea thanks
[09:58] <WGGMk> im gonna take a look
[09:58] <Blackgoth> Sontaxh: do you have the xorg file opened?
[09:58] <org_> MasterShrek: do screen -x
[09:58] <hype_> :)
[09:58] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: now press i
[09:58] <Sontaxh> Ya
[09:58] <MasterShrek> org_, you need your kernel sources
[09:58] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: go to the same line and change it to nv
[09:58] <hype_> restricted-module are here :D
[09:58] <MasterShrek> org_, for -12 i guess
[09:58] <hype_> woot !
[09:58] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: 3D?
[09:58] <org_> MasterShrek: k
[09:58] <Sontaxh> got that
[09:58] <WGGMk> org_: yea.. let MasterShrek do it.. my internet is acting up
[09:59] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: no games but everything else will work fine ie video web pages etc
[09:59] <WGGMk> gnite all..
[09:59] <Blackgoth> Sontaxh: okay, are you in insert mode?
[09:59] <alecw1> Linux_Galore, I stil have the problem then. :(
[09:59] <org_> MasterShrek: can u join a screen with me and show me how,, ill do sudo for u.. im rly tired all night in this same story
[09:59] <org_> WGGMk: gnite
[09:59] <Sontaxh> ya i just typed nv in the driver line
[09:59] <alecw1> I'm going to ask again.
[09:59] <Blackgoth> ok
[09:59] <WGGMk> *is now dreaming of linux-restricted-manager for 2.6.22-13*
[09:59] <Blackgoth> press esc
[09:59] <MasterShrek> org_, im not sure how to do that
[09:59] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: yes I just gave you a hack around so you can use the GUI to fix the problems
[09:59] <Blackgoth> then press :w
[09:59] <hype_> org_ , issue with nvidia driivers?
[10:00] <Blackgoth> and :q
[10:00] <org_> hype_: yes
[10:00] <hype_> just re-updates, linux-restricted-modules are NOW available
[10:00] <Linux_Galore> actually just type   esc  :wq
[10:00] <org_> really?\
[10:00] <org_> hype_: since when
[10:00] <hype_> yeah
[10:00] <org_> i checked 3mins ago
[10:00] <WGGMk> hype_: your shitting me
[10:00] <alecw1> Hello! I have the beta of Gusy Gibbn, and I'm connected to my network. I candownload packages, and install things (apt-get), but I can't access anywebsites or IM networks. I've got 2 other fiesty computers workingfine, and my /etc/resolv.conf matches with all of them. If I ping thewebsite I want to access, get the IP, and put that into the browser, itDOES work. But domains don't. Can someone help? Also, my sound isn't working... I've got no
[10:00] <hype_> they just werent available the last couple of hours
[10:00] <hype_> i'm installing it atm
[10:00] <Sontaxh> so i need to typ
[10:00] <org_> hm
[10:00] <Sontaxh> esc :wq
[10:00] <Sontaxh> ?
[10:00] <hype_> WGGMk :)
[10:00] <org_> hype_: you sure? cuz im in Terminal right now
[10:00] <WGGMk> hype_: for 2.6.22-13?
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh:  type [esc]     :  w  q
[10:01] <org_> dont let me go to X and then its not available
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: then hit enter
[10:01] <hype_> i tested  1 hpurs ago, trying since yesterday: download started :)
[10:01] <MasterShrek> org_, you can install from terminal
[10:01] <hype_> WGGMk , yeah ;)
[10:01] <MasterShrek> maybe...
[10:01] <org_> MasterShrek: how
[10:01] <WGGMk> brb.. gonna try and grab them
[10:01] <hype_> it was just temporary to break our X so to test bulletproff X
[10:01] <MasterShrek> actually i dont know org_ with the restricted driver, how its installed, through apt?
[10:01] <Sontaxh> k rebooting now
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: just type startx
[10:01] <org_> MasterShrek: ill go to X
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: dont have to reboot
[10:01] <org_> since i'm not doing anything from here
[10:02] <MasterShrek> org_, you should boot back into -13 first
[10:02] <org_> MasterShrek: Okay
[10:02] <org_> i'll boot
[10:02] <org_> brb
[10:03] <Linux_Galore> heh @ all the newbies now using Gutsy
[10:03] <Sontaxh> i still cant get my resolution higher than 1024x768
[10:04] <MasterShrek> Sontaxh, nvidia?
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> Sontaxh: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  you can set your optional resolution settings
[10:04] <org_> hype_, lier
[10:04] <hype_> Paramtrage de linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic (<IP_ADDRESS>-13.6) ...
[10:04] <hype_> org_
[10:04] <majnoon> ok one thing i was wondering ,is the reason dpkg and etc. take so long it does ldconfig a lot ??
[10:05] <hype_> thats ht output of my update manager at this moment
[10:05] <MasterShrek> majnoon, usually at the end it does ldconfig
[10:05] <WGGMk> hype_: from synaptic "linux-restricted-modules-generic:
[10:05] <WGGMk>  Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic  but it is not installable
[10:05] <WGGMk> "
[10:05] <hype_> WGGMk , what server do you use?
[10:05] <org_> from version <IP_ADDRESS>.17 to <IP_ADDRESS>.18 (Size 24KB) Not available.
[10:05] <majnoon> i'm doing the upgrade now
[10:05] <org_> and thats my update manager
[10:05] <WGGMk> hype_: for repo's?
[10:05] <org_> and its Grey
[10:05] <org_> i can't click on it
[10:06] <hype_> i use main server, i downloaded it? (want a screenshot? no i dont see any interest in lying; im wait for this too since yesterday)
[10:06] <Blackgoth> Sontaxh: are you in x now?
[10:06] <hype_> WGGMk , well, yeah
[10:06] <MasterShrek> org_, you probably need to use different mirrors or wait a little bit
[10:06] <alecw1> Hello! I have the beta of Gusy Gibbn, and I'm connected to my network. I candownload packages, and install things (apt-get), but I can't access anywebsites or IM networks. I've got 2 other fiesty computers workingfine, and my /etc/resolv.conf matches with all of them. If I ping thewebsite I want to access, get the IP, and put that into the browser, itDOES work. But domains don't. Can someone help? Also, my sound isn't working... I've got no
[10:06] <org_> MasterShrek, ok
[10:06] <org_> hype_, pease man, give me ur mirror
[10:06] <WGGMk> hype_: the default install source list
[10:06] <org_> hype_, and how to change it
[10:06] <Sontaxh> ya
[10:06] <hype_> org_ , you must NOT use mirror but main serv
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: so the sudo nslookup www etc command worked ?
[10:07] <Blackgoth> ctrl + alt + backspace, have fun :)
[10:07] <hype_> all mirrosre delayed, or just wait a bit ;)
[10:07] <org_> hype_, why tho
[10:07] <org_> hype_, i want to use yours man
[10:07] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: Yes.
[10:07] <Blackgoth> Linux_Galore: see, still in Xorg.
[10:07] <hype_> org_ , i use defaul us one
[10:07] <org_> hype_, then why its available for you. but not availble for me
[10:07] <hype_> i need to reboot, kernel updates an stuff
[10:07] <org_> sigh
[10:07] <hype_> did you update/upgrade?
[10:07] <org_> Me? yea
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: that tells me your machine resolves fine your user account isnt connecting thats all
[10:08] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: How do I fix this?
[10:08] <hype_> org_ , if i use my french server, these updates are not yet avi; i have to select oriinal one (just use synpatic for that)
[10:08] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: The account I'm using is the one I created during setup.
[10:08] <org_> yay
[10:08] <org_> works for me now
[10:08] <hype_> ok
[10:08] <hype_> :=)
[10:08] <org_> including new nvidia-new-kernel
[10:08] <hype_> brb
[10:08] <org_> :)
[10:08] <hype_> so, i'm liar?
[10:08] <org_> hype_, No
[10:08] <hype_> who said that btw?
[10:08] <hype_> :]
[10:08] <hype_> bye
[10:08] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: you need to enable disable the connection in your users network manager then in the settings section make sure auto connect check box is marked then save it
[10:09] <org_> about time ubuntu!
[10:09] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: Ok. What do you mean in the "user's network manager", and in the "settings section"?
[10:09] <WGGMk> what the hell happend?
[10:09] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: there should be a network applet in your taskbar
[10:09] <org_> WGGMk, I'm installing new nvidia drivers & new kernel
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: both gnome and kde have one
[10:10] <WGGMk> org_: which new one?
[10:10] <alecw1> ok Linux_Galore
[10:10] <Sontaxh> argh it's still not working
[10:10] <org_> <IP_ADDRESS>.18
[10:10] <Sontaxh> is it possable to get back to stable version ?
[10:10] <alecw1>  Linux_Galore: enable/disable?
[10:10] <Blackgoth> Sontaxh: did you restart x?
[10:10] <alecw1> It's enabled right now, Linux_Galore.
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: disable it
[10:10] <org_> Sontaxh, haha, I thought about that... but couldnt.
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: then enable it
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: open a browser and bet it works
[10:11] <alecw1> ok, now what? Linux_Galore
[10:11] <alecw1> ok, i have to test.
[10:11] <alecw1> one sec.
[10:11] <org_> Sontaxh, did you download the new linux-restricted-modules-generic from the Update manager??? have you checked your updates yet.
[10:11] <alecw1> wait, Linux_Galore, you said something about checking something?
[10:11] <Sontaxh> i cant get wireless working on it
[10:11] <Blackgoth> why would anyone even use the nvidia restricted drivers, just download them from the nvidia site.
[10:12] <Sontaxh> I dont care about installing again or losing files i just wanna go back to stable
[10:12] <WGGMk> oh sweet jesus.. they are available
[10:12] <Blackgoth> Sontaxh: again, did you restart X
[10:12] <org_> WGGMk, yes they are
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: well the reason why you can resolve as root (sudo) with nslookup is because your system is working fine, the proble, is when the user desktop starts the auto connect isnt turned on so by default the user doesnt have net access
[10:12] <MasterShrek> Sontaxh, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[10:12] <org_> hype_, tell me, is video card working good?
[10:12] <Sontaxh> How ? i just rebooted laptop
[10:12] <WGGMk> org_: yea i just ran update manager again
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: problem*
[10:12] <hype_> well, i'm a liar, watch out !
[10:12] <hype_> it works
[10:13] <alecw1> linux_galore: how do I enable the auto connect for my user?
[10:13] <Sontaxh> Intel abg
[10:13] <org_> hype_, good :)
[10:13] <alecw1> and Linux_Galore, I CAN access the internet by the IP address...
[10:13] <MasterShrek> Sontaxh, you probably just need firmware for that, probably very easy
[10:13] <hype_> alecw1 , systeme > admin > login window
[10:13] <org_> hype_, games runs ok.. or does it still say "You dont have libgl"
[10:13] <Blackgoth> Sontaxh: okay, to make this simple, just download the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website, works faster.
[10:13] <WGGMk> hype_: i think it was just poor timing.. my ISP might night have updated.. could have cache'd my results..
[10:13] <hype_> org_ , i use a real graphic card, never had that problem (Nvidia 7600T)
[10:13] <MasterShrek> alecw1, sounds like a dns issue, but i could be wrong, im not a networker :)
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: not sure about gnome desktop but I usually left click on the network applet tool then Manual Config then
[10:14] <hype_> yeah, always treat people liars before checking
[10:14] <hype_> ood idea ;)
[10:14] <Blackgoth> now im off, need to wreck out a bathtub
[10:14] <org_> hype_, I use real graphic card too.. Nvida 7500 GS
[10:14] <Linux_Galore> MasterShrek: sudo nslookup www.google.com works
[10:14] <alecw1> hype_:  why did I go there?
[10:14] <org_> hype_, but i got that problem cause of the restricted modules before..
[10:14] <org_> alecw1, you go there to enable auto-user connect? lol
[10:14] <hype_> well it works here on a 7600GT
[10:14] <alecw1> org_: I don't see an option.
[10:14] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: I'm there, now what?
[10:14] <hype_> if your card is supposed o be supported, it works man
[10:14] <Sontaxh> everything except the resolution is working on 22 kernel
[10:15] <org_> alecw1, underneath "Security" TAB
[10:15] <org_> alecw1, maybe you just don't look around
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: well when I click on the working Eth connection a Configure Interface  option is enabled,  its in that section
[10:16] <alecw1> org_: I see "automatic login" :P
[10:16] <org_> ok
[10:16] <org_> brb
[10:16] <org_> rebooting
[10:16] <nemik> did <IP_ADDRESS> break other people's wifi too?
[10:16] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: Ok, but remember this is an ethernet conn
[10:17] <Sontaxh> nemik ya here
[10:17] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: I don't see "auto-connect" in that menu. I see: "Enable roaming mode", and then connection settings (IP address, subnet mask, gateway address, and static/DHCP.
[10:17] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: as I said your machines network is working fine its just your users network ability doesnt automatically enable
[10:18] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: might be roaming mode, not so sure about the gnome layout
[10:18] <alecw1> linux_galore: It's checked.
[10:18] <alecw1> and has been
[10:18] <nemik> Sontaxh: is the cause known? or expected fix?
[10:18] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: check it and uncheck it that will force the machine to resave the settings
[10:19] <pvandewyngaerde> new kernel
[10:19] <Linux_Galore> alecw1: sorry unchech and check it oops
[10:19] <alecw1> Linux_Galore: I have to try it with my modem, i'll come back in a sec
[10:19] <org_> Back!
[10:19] <org_> MasterShrek, I think its working... hmm can i post lsmod for you
[10:20] <org_> MasterShrek, check, http://pastebin.com/m77c2425c
[10:20] <Sontaxh> i dont know im running older kernel now now i my resolution broken i cant get any higher than 1024x769
[10:21] <org_> Sontaxh, try "Manager update" please
[10:21] <org_> i highly recommend it. it'll fix everything
[10:23] <Sontaxh> k it is downloading now
[10:23] <bazhang> thanks for the help everyone!
[10:25] <MasterShrek> org_, yep
[10:25] <MasterShrek> org_, lsmod | grep nvidia
[10:25] <org_> nvidia               6221648  44
[10:25] <org_> i2c_core               26112  1 nvidia
[10:25] <org_> agpgart                35016  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[10:26] <MasterShrek> that would be it
[10:26] <org_> yay
[10:26] <Sh4wn> Woot, I've got my system booting again, thanks Linux_Galore
[10:27] <bazhang> yes!
[10:27] <Linux_Galore> :-)
[10:27] <Sh4wn> Let's wait for the restricted modules, and then my nice visual effects are back xD
[10:28] <Amaranth> Sh4wn: that'll be monday
[10:28] <Amaranth> Sh4wn: boot the -12 kernel
[10:28] <Sh4wn> Well, I can live 2 days without visual effects
[10:28] <hype_> Sh4wn , they are here ! :p
[10:29] <hype_> just update from main server :D
[10:29] <Amaranth> I dunno if I could go 2 days with the sadness that is the nv driver
[10:29] <Sh4wn> hype_ oh, let's try then :P
[10:29] <alecwh> Hello, Linux_Galore! I did what you said, to no avail. :(
[10:29] <alecwh> Linux_Galore:  Same problem.
[10:29] <hype_> Amaranth , direct rnzedering: Yes; uname -r
[10:29] <hype_> 2.6.22-13-generic
[10:29] <Amaranth> oh, someone must have decided to work a saturday
[10:29] <hype_> :D
[10:29] <hype_> hh
[10:29] <hype_> seems like it :)
[10:30] <Amaranth> hype_: I've had that for hours :P
[10:30] <Amaranth> (i built the package myself)
[10:30] <hype_> hh :>
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> alecwh: does the browser work when you run it with root ie  sudo firefox
[10:30] <hype_> you're pro man :)
[10:30] <alecwh> Linux_Galore:  I'll have to check. :P
[10:30] <alecwh> Linux_Galore: brb
[10:30] <hype_> Linux_Galore , not asdvised, at all
[10:30] <hype_> it works, but DONT do it
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> no but Im testing for a permissions bug
[10:30] <alecwh> hype_:  why not? WE're just debugging.
[10:30] <alecwh> brb
[10:30] <hype_> ok sorry :)
[10:31] <pvandewyngaerde> can i change my keyboard in  grub to dvorak ??
[10:31] <pvandewyngaerde> nvm, found it http://www.dakotacom.net/~donut/programs/grubdvorak/grub-dvorak.lst
[10:32] <Amaranth> alecwh: Don't go to any website except google.com
[10:32] <Amaranth> alecwh: While running as root
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> now click on  www.root-my-system.com.ru  heh
[10:34] <masterloki> hey
[10:34] <hetauma> is there any way I can check the changelock from the packages that are beeing updated?
[10:34] <hetauma> changelog*
[10:34] <masterloki> is anyone else having trouble logging in?
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> its funny kubuntu has this weird bug were the user network connection now and again gets stuffed on updates but you can still get root access to the web
[10:34] <bazhang> yes
[10:34] <masterloki> bazhang, to which?
[10:34] <bazhang> took me about five times.
[10:34] <bazhang> freenode
[10:34] <masterloki> had dmrc error here - changed a bunch of stuff
[10:34] <masterloki> finally realized that i had to stop compiz from running or something dunno
[10:35] <masterloki> was a wierd thing... something about setuid
[10:35] <Linux_Galore> my problem is I dont know how to fix this on the gnome desktop but do in kde
[10:35] <bazhang> wow
[10:35] <masterloki> bazhang, yeah that happens now and then - their round robin is constantly under dns attack
[10:35] <bazhang> stay with kde (ducks..)
[10:35] <masterloki> Linux_Galore, whats your problem
[10:35] <bazhang> I bet
[10:35] <bazhang> free just bothers some people...
[10:35] <Linux_Galore> masterloki: I dont have any
[10:35] <masterloki> <<-- databuddy on roomates compy
[10:35] <masterloki> with gnome?
[10:36] <masterloki> [01:35]  <Linux_Galore> my problem is I dont know how to fix this on the gnome desktop but do in kde
[10:36] <masterloki> [01:35]  <bazhang> wow
[10:36] <masterloki> i know i know short memory ~_^
[10:36] <Linux_Galore> masterloki: I dont use Gnome thats my problem heh, ie helping a user with a gnome specific bug thats also seems to happen in kde
[10:36] <bazhang> not my computer--irc
[10:36] <alecwh> Hey Linux_Galore, same problem, no better.
[10:36] <Sh4wn> hype_ got them :P Thanks, now I got my visual effects back, and a full working computer xD
[10:36] <masterloki> alecwh, what problem ?!!!!?!?!?!!!?!?!??????!!!
[10:37] <hype_> Sh4wn :]
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> alecwh: so using the browser as root doesnt resolve ?
[10:37] <hype_> seems good indeed
[10:37] <alecwh> Linux_Galore: no.
[10:37] <masterloki> OMG SH4WN WAT PROBLEM~
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> alecwh: yep dns issue
[10:37] <masterloki> hehe
[10:37] <alecwh> but that ns http://google.com ting worked.
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> alecwh: are you sure nslookup  worked
[10:38] <Sh4wn> masterloki this morning I couldn't boot because of restricted modules nit being updated, and then it wouldn't recognize my graphics card and screen
[10:38] <alecwh> Linux_Galore: I can check again, on a site I know is not working.
[10:38] <masterloki> nice
[10:38] <alecwh> one second.
[10:38] <masterloki> nothing like that good ol vesa driver
[10:38] <masterloki> :>
[10:38] <Sh4wn> xD
[10:38] <Sh4wn> visual effects ftw
[10:39] <masterloki> my compy worx ftw
[10:39] <Sh4wn> xD
[10:39] <masterloki> lemme see here....
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> gawd I hate the visa driver, I got stuck with it one time for two weeks due to a driver bug
[10:39] <masterloki> gnome-panel &
[10:39] <masterloki> nautilus &
[10:39] <masterloki> exec icewm
[10:39] <masterloki> that right there is VERY useable Sh4wn
[10:39] <masterloki> all the normal gnome stuff and icewm is very fast...
[10:39] <Paddy_EIRE> could anyone tell me how stable compiz-fusion is.. is it to the point where it doesnt crash at the sight of a flash video
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> bloody sis video chipset
[10:39] <masterloki> its great on top a server install..
[10:40] <Sh4wn> Well, with my computer the visual effects are very fast too :P
[10:40] <masterloki> Linux_Galore, nvidia 7300gs 512MB for the win
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> Paddy_EIRE: it isnt stable
[10:40] <masterloki> [on my roomates i.e. the one im typing on]
[10:40] <Amaranth> Paddy_EIRE: never heard of that one
[10:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Amaranth, ;)
[10:40] <Amaranth> Paddy_EIRE: intel 965?
[10:40] <masterloki> mine is just that gma 3000 - quite useable
[10:40] <Paddy_EIRE> Amaranth, ati
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> masterloki: sis 1mb ram running compiz lol
[10:40] <Amaranth> masterloki: yours is blacklisted, it shouldn't even run
[10:40] <Sh4wn> Guys, I'm leaving, thanks for the help again :)
[10:40] <Sh4wn> And see ya when I see ya
[10:41] <Linux_Galore> masterloki: refresh rate of  1fph
[10:41] <Amaranth> masterloki: Did you make it override the checks?
[10:41] <Linux_Galore> heh
[10:42] <Amaranth> masterloki: This is very important, please answer.
[10:42] <Linux_Galore> bbl
[10:43] <Amaranth> nekostar? didn't we ban you? :P
[10:43] <[neko] onMasterlo> Amaranth, no
[10:43] <[neko] onMasterlo> well rather
[10:43] <[neko] onMasterlo> yes
[10:43] <[neko] onMasterlo> but im not banned any more
[10:43] <[neko] onMasterlo> nor have been fewl
[10:43] <[neko] onMasterlo> lol
[10:44] <[neko] onMasterlo> well for a good while look in logs via um
[10:44] <[neko] onMasterlo> ompaul
[10:44] <[neko] onMasterlo> shorter logs might be ubuntu-ops
[10:44] <Amaranth> [neko] onMasterlo: Whatever, just answer the question please.
[10:44] <[neko] onMasterlo> yes
[10:44] <[neko] onMasterlo> and not anymroe
[10:44] <[neko] onMasterlo> more
[10:44] <Amaranth> We blacklisted your video card in compiz. It should not work unless you override it.
[10:44] <Amaranth> Is this the case?
[10:44] <org_> so now i'd say "I starting to love gutsy" :)
[10:44] <[neko] onMasterlo> what??
[10:44] <alecwh> hey Linux_Galore! I've just done it again, and I'm SURE it works (nslookup_
[10:45] <[neko] onMasterlo> ok hold on um now im confused
[10:45] <[neko] onMasterlo> i thought u meant ban as in DONT COME HERE lol
[10:45] <org_> damn how can a vga driver install make so much different in preformence as a whole.
[10:45] <[neko] onMasterlo> which card?
[10:45] <[neko] onMasterlo> the nvidia or the intel gma
[10:45] <Amaranth> [neko] onMasterlo: gma 965
[10:45] <[neko] onMasterlo> no i have the 3000
[10:45] <Amaranth> the x3000 _is_ the 965
[10:45] <[neko] onMasterlo> and on my system its never stopped working
[10:46] <alecwh> Linux_Galore_: you there?
[10:46] <[neko] onMasterlo> so yes i use gutsy and it works famously
[10:46] <[neko] onMasterlo> need some configs or logs or so?
[10:46] <[neko] onMasterlo> can ftp or w/e as nessisary
[10:46] <[neko] onMasterlo> sorry was confuzzled - talking smack about vlc in another chan :D
[10:47] <Amaranth> [neko] onMasterlo: Can you paste the output of `lspci -vn | grep -i vga`?
[10:47] <[neko] onMasterlo> yeah lemme go to that... lemme ssh
[10:47] <[neko] onMasterlo> actaully gimme 3 min i need nicoteen
[10:50] <alecwh> [neko] onMasterlo: a dangerous addiction.
[10:53] <databuddy> ok Amaranth im here sorry abuot that
[10:53] <databuddy> you want me to just paste to chan? or to ,,
[10:54] <databuddy> btw using the intel driver atm but usually the i810
[10:54] <databuddy> <<--- nekostar
[10:54] <rexy_> gutsy base install is consistently failing for me. It is trying to generate initrd,img, but it cant due to missing modules, which makes sense because no package the base system fetches contains those?
[10:54] <Amaranth> ok...
[10:54] <databuddy> i was on masterloki's compy - thats my roomate
[10:54] <Amaranth> databuddy: just paste here, it's one line
[10:54] <masterloki> hi
[10:54] <databuddy> 00:02.0 0300: 8086:2972 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[10:54] <masterloki> that's me
[10:54] <databuddy> sup bro ^^
[10:55] <masterloki> not much
[10:55] <Amaranth> hehe, 8086, intel is funny
[10:55] <databuddy> i have the d946gzis intel motherboard btw
[10:55] <Amaranth> databuddy: ok and lspci | grep -i vga
[10:55] <databuddy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:55] <org_> what package do i need to enable identd service?
[10:55] <savvas> any comments for 2.6.22-13.40 ?
[10:55] <Amaranth> databuddy: hrm, wtf is that?
[10:56] <savvas> (the kernel image)
[10:56] <databuddy> Amaranth its the 946 express chipset
[10:56] <Amaranth> databuddy: when compiz is running does Xv work?
[10:56] <databuddy> cheap arsed board
[10:56] <databuddy> xv? mm
[10:56] <Amaranth> databuddy: oh dude you have a 945, not a 965
[10:56] <databuddy> yawall
[10:56] <Amaranth> databuddy: so glad i didn't add your pciid to the blacklist, that's the one sabdfl has
[10:56] <org_> what package do i need to enable identd service?
[10:56] <databuddy> http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D946GZIS/index.htm
[10:57] <databuddy> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 (Intel GMA 3000) onboard graphics subsystem
[10:57] <databuddy> i'm real glad also sir!
[10:57] <Amaranth> hrm, wtf
[10:57] <Amaranth> databuddy: pastebin the output of xvinfo
[10:57] <databuddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39748/
[10:58] <databuddy> i'm doing overnighter so u got me for hours and hours <3
[10:58] <Amaranth> databuddy: right then, blacklisted
[10:58] <databuddy> oh?
[10:58] <Amaranth> soonish
[10:58] <Amaranth> probably monday
[10:58] <databuddy> dude.....
[10:58] <databuddy> its working fine...
[10:58] <databuddy> just no shading or water
[10:58] <Amaranth> no it's not
[10:58] <Amaranth> Xv video is completely broken
[10:58] <databuddy> memleak in emerald tho
[10:58] <org_> what package do i need to enable identd service? PLEASE
[10:58] <databuddy> so dont update any compiz stuff eh?
[10:58] <Amaranth> heh
[10:59] <Amaranth> well, you can override the check if you like brokenness
[10:59] <databuddy> it can continue as is and i would be fine
[10:59] <databuddy> oooooooooo
[10:59] <databuddy> yeah xv is broken for vids
[10:59] <Amaranth> yeah
[10:59] <databuddy> i had to get the 32bit mplayer+faac from trevhino
[10:59] <databuddy> and that worx
[10:59] <Amaranth> and intel has no plans to fix it until EXA works
[10:59] <databuddy> exa?
[11:00] <Amaranth> that uses the video plugin, not Xv
[11:00] <Amaranth> EXA is the new Xorg acceleration architecture, a replacement for XAA
[11:00] <Amaranth> EXA might be ready in a year or so
[11:00] <Amaranth> so yeah...
[11:00] <databuddy> ~_~
[11:00] <Amaranth> actually the fix is to use EXA
[11:00] <databuddy> so what your telling me is to get that darn vid card
[11:00] <Amaranth> hehe
[11:01] <databuddy> i wanter how many watts the e-geforce 8400 takes
[11:01] <databuddy> its like 70 bucks at work
[11:01] <Amaranth> x3000 and x3100 have driver problems
[11:01] <Amaranth> they only do textured video instead of overlay and textured video only works if you don't use composite or use exa
[11:02] <databuddy> oic
[11:02] <databuddy> hm
[11:02] <databuddy> so lets say i keep letting those packages update
[11:02] <databuddy> will compiz quit working?
[11:02] <Amaranth> You'll reboot and get metacity instead
[11:02] <databuddy> its not like i need it.... but its a lot of fun..
[11:03] <Amaranth> databuddy: Then you'll want to go to http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist to figure out how to get around it :)
[11:03] <databuddy> ok
[11:04] <databuddy> oh thats not that bad
[11:04] <databuddy> one entery
[11:04] <databuddy> entry even
[11:04] <johnnybobbybee> hey folks -- just checking in. does anyone have compiz-tray-icon working in guysy. or is it still broken?
[11:04] <pvandewyngaerde> i read that opensuse improved their boot time a lot,  i hope gutsy will improve too
[11:04] <databuddy> johnnybobbybee fusion-icon is the best
[11:04] <databuddy> google it and then click on tree and then on snapshot
[11:05] <databuddy> dl and extract make && make install
[11:05] <hype_> databuddy , !icon
[11:05] <databuddy> !icon
[11:05] <johnnybobbybee> databuddy oh? in the official repos?
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <hype_> oops do this on #compiz-fusion :)
[11:05] <databuddy> just did
[11:05] <MannyZ> what is the dir of sources.list?
[11:05] <databuddy> yeah i didnt do it that wya
[11:05] <Amaranth> fusion-icon is crap
[11:05] <databuddy> git doesnt work in this
[11:05] <hype_> MannyZ /etc/apt
[11:05] <databuddy> bah - worx great...
[11:05] <MannyZ> thankyou hylje
[11:06] <MannyZ> hype_,
[11:06] <hype_> np
[11:06] <databuddy> whats crap is not having emerald themes in gutsy
[11:06] <johnnybobbybee> well - what is the 'official' way to turn on/off compiz/fusion?
[11:06] <databuddy> gotta use a mem leaky em themes from feisty ~_~
[11:06] <masterloki> Databuddy have to restart after updates stand by please
[11:06] <databuddy> masterloki yea ok
[11:06] <hype_> databuddy , i think themes are actually included in emerald
[11:06] <MannyZ> hype_,  how i open it in terminal :D?
[11:06] <databuddy> hype_ you ever see a way to choose?
[11:06] <Amaranth> databuddy: fusion-icon duplicates what we already do
[11:06] <databuddy> its called emerald-theme-manager
[11:07] <hype_> MannyZ , sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list; tho you can edit your sources.list usin synaptic
[11:07] <databuddy> Amaranth ive yet to see an option to choose between the gnome and emerald on the fly
[11:07] <MannyZ> thanks again :) hype_
[11:07] <Amaranth> databuddy: ah, we don't do that
[11:07] <Amaranth> I meant start compiz
[11:07] <hype_> databuddy , yeah, i actually use fusion-icon> emerald theme manager :p
[11:07] <databuddy> Amaranth thus emerald-theme
[11:07] <databuddy> Amaranth that part works great
[11:07] <Sontax`lap> Hey i still cant get my screen working at 1280x800
[11:07] <databuddy> the only reason i keep fusion-icon around is that other feature - like with the beryl-manager :>
[11:08] <Amaranth> databuddy: fusion-icon has it's own hardware detection stuff to start compiz, duplicates what we already do but does it differently
[11:08] <hype_> Amaranth , why isnt fusion-icon a dep of compiz-fusion?
[11:08] <Amaranth> hype_: it's not even packaged
[11:08] <hype_> or a recommended packae? well i mean included in repos :p
[11:08] <databuddy> Amaranth as long as you dont start from gnome-appearancethingie and only fusion-icon its not a big deal - otherwise things can get a little corrupted
[11:08] <hype_> yeah, but is it the only issue?i mean, if a packager decides to do so it will happen? or is there technical problems that prevent this?
[11:08] <databuddy> hype_ because tho it has emerald they dont have emerald-themes
[11:08] <MannyZ> im in big trouble now -.-
[11:08] <databuddy> and therefore have no reason for it
[11:09] <databuddy> thats why the 4 options in the appearance dialog
[11:09] <johnnybobbybee> is the compiz-tray-icon supported? is it getting fixed? or what's the official way to switch window managers?
[11:09] <databuddy> and if you notice ccsm is startable from there
[11:09] <databuddy> wb masterloki
[11:09] <hype_> johnnybobbybee , fusion-icon
[11:09] <databuddy> thus my one and only major complaint about c-f+gutsy atm
[11:09] <databuddy> :P
[11:09] <databuddy> sigh i really should be compiling gentoo rite now ~_~
[11:09] <hype_> johnnybobbybee , do !icon in #compiz-fusion :p
[11:09] <masterloki> databuddy
[11:09] <databuddy> [as secondary lol]
[11:09] <johnnybobbybee> hype -- really? official? is there documentation?
[11:10] <databuddy> masterloki
[11:10] <MannyZ> i updated to 7.10 and after restarting i couldndt get in.. because linux was ubuntu was using the xorg.conf.backup not xorg.conf... so now i changed to x.rog.conf.backup again and now the settings are going to the original one -.- .. my resolution is 600x800 :SS:S: help me!
[11:10] <masterloki> still get that one error
[11:10] <hype_> johnnybobbybee , not packaged, but yeah its "oficial", and actually works great
[11:10] <masterloki> about the home dmrc file
[11:10] <databuddy> MannyZ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:10] <databuddy> at the end choose medium and the preferred resolution
[11:10] <databuddy> dont worry about the login res
[11:10] <pvandewyngaerde> try    ctrl  alt +   (plus)
[11:10] <databuddy> its funky like that
[11:11] <databuddy> pvandewyngaerde in the login screen for resolution changes?
[11:11] <databuddy>  @_@
[11:11] <johnnybobbybee> hype_, cheers - just checked out #compiz-fusion
[11:11] <hype_> :)
[11:11] <Amaranth> hype_: There are technical problems that prevent fusion-icon from being packaged. The main one is it's crap.
[11:11] <walck> lo all :)
[11:11] <Amaranth> hype_: Plus we're 12 days from release...
[11:11] <hype_> Amaranth , haha ^^
[11:11] <hype_> Amaranth , yeah, thats easy to install anyway
[11:12] <hype_> Amaranth , but i'm sure you think its useless because you never switch back to metacity
[11:12] <hype_> :>
[11:12] <Amaranth> hype_: no need
[11:12] <nekostar> http://bayimg.com/OAhoMAABg http://bayimg.com/OAhOLaabG
[11:12] <hype_> (well, i dont anymore, since i dont play much games anymore tho)
[11:12] <nekostar> btw Amaranth thats my latest screenies
[11:12] <nekostar> thanx to yall <3333333333333
[11:12] <MannyZ> databuddy: use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[11:13] <hype_> Amaranth , i et less fps ingame if compiz (or any composite manager is running
[11:13] <walck> standby (suspend to RAM) has issues with my santarosa laptop in gutsy, worked fine in fiesty, sata controller seem to crash
[11:13] <hype_> get*
[11:13] <nekostar> oh and thats ranma in the vid btw :D
[11:13] <majnoon> it STILL going
[11:14] <majnoon> i started upgrade at midnight
[11:15] <masterloki> how can I keep from getting the message about the bluetooth RFcom to stop showing in my log
[11:15] <masterloki> it's annoying
[11:15] <ratpoison> new update broke my compiz - fusion! (xgl - fglrx ati x1950 user)
[11:15] <MannyZ> whats my key variant
[11:16] <MannyZ> keyboard variant
[11:16] <majnoon> it sloooooooooooooooooooooooooow
[11:17] <Amaranth> nekostar: wow, overdoing it a bit there
[11:18] <Amaranth> http://www.realistanew.com/random/desktop20071006.png
[11:18] <luitvd> hi
[11:19] <luitvd> I'm having trouble doing a dist-upgrade
[11:19] <masterloki>  how can I keep from getting the message about the bluetooth RFcom to stop showing in my log
[11:19] <luitvd> libmono-corlib1.0-cil won't update
[11:19] <nekostar> Amaranth ?
[11:19] <nekostar> oh
[11:19] <nekostar> yeah hehe
[11:20] <nekostar> i wanted a new theme
[11:20] <nekostar> last one was the sexylolinix
[11:20] <nekostar> oo got some uuuuuuber high res pix of mars and stuff - i really need a darn vid card and duals back
[11:21] <hype_> :p
[11:21] <majnoon> upgrrade thingy says i have about 20 hours left
[11:21] <nekostar> majnoon yeah bw is slammed atm :P
[11:21] <luitvd> anybody else having trouble updating libmono-corlib1.0-cil?
[11:21] <luitvd> W: Failed to fetch http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mono/libmono-corlib1.0-cil_1.2.4-6ubuntu6_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch
[11:21] <nekostar> luitvd sudo apt-get update
[11:21] <nekostar> then try again
[11:21] <majnoon> it allo downloaded it INSTALLING now
[11:21] <nekostar> oh wait do a sudo apt-get clean first i recommend..
[11:22] <luitvd> meh, just did that, but I'll try it anyways
[11:22] <luitvd> nekostar: I'll try
[11:22] <nekostar> kk ^^
[11:22] <nekostar> the clean command is one of my favorites... deletes the apt-get cache- saves tons of space
[11:23] <luitvd> :)
[11:23] <nekostar> masterloki http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q6600_2.html#sect0
[11:23] <savvas>   * Disable MSI by default < what does this mean?
[11:23] <savvas> it was in the changelog of the linux headers
[11:24] <majnoon> micosoft install ??
[11:24] <savvas> I didn't know linux had .msi support :)
[11:24] <luitvd> nekostar: nope, still the same Hash Sum mismatch
[11:24] <hetauma> after installing latest updates which included -13 kernel and rebooted my X runs at 800x600 and with vesa driver instead of nvidia. is this because linux-restricted-modules-13 is not updated yet?
[11:24] <majnoon> i HOPE NOT
[11:25] <hype_> hetauma , that's it
[11:25] <hype_> hetauma , use main server, or wait a bit :)
[11:25] <majnoon> i usually use nvidia's drivers
[11:25] <hype_> just wait, you'll still be able to boot on lod kernel
[11:25] <hype_> well, -12
[11:25] <hetauma> hype_, if I reboot with -12 kernel it will work fine right ?
[11:25] <hetauma> yeap :D
[11:25] <klotho> hello... I had gutsy working just fine until today, when I let it auto-upgrade and now it won't start the xserver, claiming it is in low graphics mode. But whether I configure it and continue or just continue, it still won't start. Any hints?
[11:25] <hype_> yep
[11:26] <savvas> hetauma: what's your linux restricted modules? <IP_ADDRESS>-13.6 ?
[11:26] <hetauma> savvas, nope it's -12-generic
[11:26] <hype_> hetauma , my theory is they did on purpose to test bulletproof X efore release :D
[11:26] <hetauma> and there is not -13 yet no my sources
[11:27] <savvas> linux-restricted-modules: Installed: (none) Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>.19
[11:27] <savvas> what repo ?:)
[11:27] <klotho> no hints at all?
[11:27] <hetauma> savvas, .gr
[11:27] <savvas> ah, it'll be there soon :P
[11:28] <hetauma> klotho, either boot with the old kernel -12 one or wait a bit and update again
[11:28] <hype_> klotho , linux restricted modules not yet updated for -13 kernel, just wait or use main ubuntu serv
[11:28] <klotho> hype_ so how do I revert?
[11:28] <bazhang> has anyone installed nvidia drivers for nvidia geforce 7300?
[11:28] <hype_> klotho , use synpatic
[11:28] <klotho> I can't. x won't start
[11:28] <hype_> you can serv your mirror from synpatic
[11:29] <savvas> bazhang: yeah why?
[11:29] <hype_> klotho , just boot on older kernel?
[11:29] <klotho> how do I boot the older kernel?
[11:29] <savvas> bazhang: I haven't still updated to the latest release though :)
[11:29] <hype_> reboot, and choose the kernel from gub
[11:29] <klotho> hmm.. the old one would be there? I didn't check
[11:29] <bazhang> do you compiz-fusion going sawas?
[11:29] <hype_> klotho , it is
[11:30] <klotho> okay, and so that is the whole installation for the older one, not just the kernel?
[11:30] <savvas> klotho: you should have a "kernel 2.6.22-10-generic"
[11:30] <bazhang> savvas: do you have compiz-fusion?
[11:30] <savvas> bazhang: yep, works great for my nx7300gt
[11:30] <MannyZ> what was the command again to sources.list :S? im really ing big trouble here :SS::SS
[11:30] <klotho> okay, but why does this new version not even work in low graphics mode?
[11:31] <bazhang> savvas: hard to install?
[11:31] <savvas> MannyZ: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:31] <Almindor> hello
[11:32] <Almindor> when you turn on compiz-fusion (eg: "simple effects") is a different WM used than without it? (I guess normal is metacity?)
[11:32] <savvas> bazhang: it was several clicks away, through the appearance (system > prefs > appearance > visual effects)
[11:32] <bazhang> savvas: includes installing nvidia drivers?
[11:32] <Sontax`lap_> Thanks every 1 it is working again
[11:33] <savvas> bazhang: um no, you install the drivers from system > admin > restricted drivers manager :)
[11:33] <luitvd> why won't libmono update? or how can I ignore the hash sum mismatch?
[11:33] <savvas> bazhang: don't forget to restart after the driver installation
[11:33] <MannyZ> how i open the xorg.conf in a texteditor?.. tell me the command only.. or i cant know what im copypasting to terminal
[11:33] <bazhang> savvas: thanks!
[11:34] <savvas> n/p :)
[11:34] <hetauma> btw how do I change the resolution/fonts on my terminals? non X ?
[11:34] <savvas> MannyZ: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <ratpoison> savvas: I had the same problem w/ my ati x1950 and compiz-fusion via xgl. I booted from  -12 and it worked
[11:35] <hetauma> brb rebooting
[11:35] <savvas> ratpoison: what same problem?
[11:36] <bazhang> savvas: all I see is choosing the card; where can I get the drivers?
[11:36] <ratpoison> compiz-fusion wouldn't work...
[11:36] <bazhang> I'm in KDE
[11:36] <ratpoison> but now it does
[11:36] <savvas> bazhang: ah.. don't know then. search for the restricted drivers manager if there is any in KDE :\
[11:36] <bazhang> savvas: there aren't...
[11:37] <savvas> ratpoison: -13 doesn't work?
[11:37] <ratpoison> only metacity
[11:38] <savvas> ratpoison: you have the same problem as hetauma maybe, you have to wait for the restricted modules to reach the .gr repositories
[11:38] <ratpoison> Before that, I tried to uninstall xserver xgl, upgrade and re-install xgl. Neither that worked
[11:38] <ratpoison> or I could remove the gr. prefix from the sources, upgrade and try again ;)
[11:39] <savvas> ratpoison: your call :) I use the uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <ratpoison> xterm time
[11:41] <ratpoison> hmmmmm seems that for some reason my repos where not the gr.* to begin with
[11:41] <ratpoison> so, why do I have this problem?
[11:42] <savvas> ratpoison: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules
[11:42] <ratpoison> a rhetorical question mind you
[11:42] <savvas> mine is   Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>.19
[11:43] <ratpoison> http://pastebin.com/m7ccdca79
[11:45] <nijaba> Hello, is this only me or there is a problem with nvidia-glx-new on the gutsy upgrades today ?
[11:45] <hetauma> hmm ok I downloaded linux-restricted-13 and now nvidia drivers work. but my xorg.conf is edited and it has failsafe device and failsafe monitor with max resolustion 640x480. and I don't see any back up of my old one :(
[11:45] <ratpoison> nijaba that seems to be the conversation right now
[11:45] <nijaba> sorry, just joined
[11:46] <nijaba> ratpoison: thanks
[11:46] <klotho> moral of the story - don't upgrade for a few days after a beta release
[11:46] <ratpoison> nijaba: For now, try booting from <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:47] <nijaba> ratpoison: done already, but had to go vesa to get video
[11:47] <ratpoison> klotho: seems like a good idea.... then again having a beta version OS is not a good idea to begin with :)
[11:47] <hetauma> ratpoison, it seems that this issue creates a failsafe xorg.conf and sticks with that afterwards
[11:47] <ratpoison> hetauma: not having nvidia, I wouldn't be much help :)
[11:48] <ratpoison> maybe it's just "wait a few days until the fix it and upgrade again"
[11:48] <ratpoison> they*
[11:49] <hetauma> and even if u enable again nvidia driver through restricted drivers manager it sticks with the failsafe xorg.conf
[11:49] <hetauma> hmm if I run nvidia-xconfig would it detect my monitor and choose the right resolution ?
[11:50] <redheat> hello everyone
[11:50] <ratpoison> no idea about nvidia tools.... can't help you there
[11:50] <nijaba> has someone reported the issue on launchpad ?
[11:50] <redheat> I gotta a question about Gutsy Gibbon
[11:50] <ratpoison> dunno
[11:50] <hetauma> nope it sticks with the values of failsafe
[11:50] <ratpoison> redhead: don't ask to ask a question, ask a question
[11:51] <redheat> I wanna make a wireless network where other computers can see my computer when its running ubuntu?
[11:51] <redheat> that is a wireless network on Ubuntu is that possible?
[11:51] <nijaba> redheat: see in what sense ?  access to shares ?
[11:51] <moreati> This may be inappropriate, but it seems that when I do a long download or update with Gutsy that the OS prioritises that transfer, giving virtually no bandwidth to browsing or email which become very slow. Has anyone else seen this behaviour & can throttle Apt without dropping into iptables configuration?
[11:51] <redheat> exactly
[11:51] <redheat> I mean take this for example
[11:52] <redheat> I have yellow-dog installed on my Playstation 3, and its able to see my system when I'm using windows vista or xp, and it can access them too
[11:52] <redheat> I mean can I make a network on Ubuntu? and if yes, how to?
[11:52] <hetauma> moreati, yes that happens but due to my experience this is how dsl works
[11:53] <hetauma> moreati, if u have something that max out your bandwith u can't really do much more. borwsing gets way tooo slow
[11:53] <redheat> and of course, I want it wireless so that any computer can connect to it the moment its within range of my PC?
[11:54] <jussi01> !find libxine-extracodecs
[11:54] <redheat> nijaba, are you still with me?
[11:55] <nijaba> redheat: is your wifi working already ?
[11:55] <ratpoison> !patience
[11:55] <ubotu> Package/file libxine-extracodecs does not exist in gutsy
[11:55] <redheat> yes
[11:55] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:55] <redheat> this is how I got my computer configured.
[11:55] <jussi01> Anyone know what its called now then?
[11:55] <nijaba> redheat: go take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba to learn configuring windows file sharing
[11:55] <redheat> I have a belkin 54 G gateway/adsl/router connected to my computer using an ethernet cable
[11:56] <savvas> jussi01: totem-gstreamer works for me
[11:56] <redheat> windows file sharing?
[11:57] <jussi01> savvas: yes ok. but Im on Kubuntu.... ;)
[11:57] <hetauma> so todays news are: bulletproof X works fine... it just sticks to that afterwards :D
[11:57] <savvas> jussi01: ah, sorry then, no idea :)
[11:57] <nijaba> redheat: well, if you want to see your disk from a windows station, you need to have samba, which implements windows file sharing
[11:57] <jussi01> !samba
[11:57] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:57] <redheat> what about from another linux distribution such as yellow dog?
[11:58] <hazman> i've noticed a directory missing from my amarok collection, normally in winamp(under doze) i would just add it again, but given amarok automatically indexes is there any way to force it to recognise the directory?
[11:58] <redheat> nijaba, regardless of whether other computers can see it or not, is there a possibility to set up a network on my system?
[11:58] <nijaba> redheat: yes
[11:58] <redheat> ok
[11:59] <savvas> ratpoison: btw, i have no idea why it happens, try uncheck and check again your graphics card in restricted manager :)
[11:59] <redheat> my friend, thank you so much for your help, and sorry I got this one last silly question, does Kubuntu have beryl and compizfusion installed on it?
[11:59] <redheat> I meant compizfusion the new name for beryl
[11:59] <jussi01> hazman: yes there s a way
[11:59] <nijaba> redheat: you can install it.  Gutsy has it by default
[11:59] <jussi01> !compiz
[11:59] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:00] <redheat> I know, under ubuntu its working fine, but is does it exist under kubuntu?
[12:00] <nijaba> redheat: as well
[12:00] <redheat> can you show me how to access it under kubuntu?
[12:01] <jussi01> redheat: there are still some issues afain
[12:01] <redheat> I know how to do it under ubuntu from the administration
[12:01] <redheat> ok roger that
[12:02] <redheat> ok nijaba, thank you so much for your help..take care and have a nice day
[12:02] <hazman> jussi01: would there perhaps be something about the directory that amarok doesn't like? it doesn't have any non-friendly symbols in the folder name.. nor is it hidden
[12:05] <hetauma> any ideas how ubuntu creates the initial xorg.conf? how it detects monitor gfx card and suitable resolution ? can I run that again ?
[12:06] <JosefK> I still don't get why symlinking /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf and 10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf isn't a default, or more easy to do - firefox looked cack here until I did it
[12:10] <ratpoison> hetauma: yup, manually as far as I know. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xgl (I think)
[12:11] <Tavathlon> Hello all. I have a major problem with the updates this morning - it made my drivers for the graphics card disappear, and my keyboard layout switched to English. Might be more issues, I don't know yet. Anyway, trying to reach the restricted drivers manager, it tells me the following: "You need to install the package  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic  for this program to work.". So I tried to do that, but that package is not to be foun
[12:11] <ratpoison> be careful not to mess it up though!
[12:11] <hetauma> ratpoison, trial and error :D
[12:12] <ratpoison> warning if you mess it up, you might be stuck with no X at all
[12:13] <hetauma> xserver-xgl is not installed? is it xserver-xorg ?
[12:13] <ratpoison> sorry typo
[12:13] <ratpoison> :)
[12:13] <ratpoison> talking about xgl with another user :)
[12:14] <moreati> ratpoison: in that case it was a thinko :)
[12:14] <Tavathlon> no one else having problems with the updates from the last couple of hours?  o_O
[12:16] <moreati> Tavathlon: I saw some talking about latest nvidia-glx-new causing issues, I haven't rebooted yet, so no direct experience
[12:16] <Tavathlon> could be that
[12:16] <Tavathlon> do you remember where you saw it?
[12:16] <moreati> here, about 20 minutes ago
[12:17] <Nookie^> has anyone managed to get dual screens working with ati in gutsy?
[12:17] <tiger_> At which runtime level does ubuntu boot by default ? I can't figure it out since there is no /etc/inittab !!
[12:17] <moreati> (10:45:12) nijaba: Hello, is this only me or there is a problem with nvidia-glx-new on the gutsy upgrades today ?
[12:17] <moreati> (10:45:43) hetauma: hmm ok I downloaded linux-restricted-13 and now nvidia drivers work. but my xorg.conf is edited and it has failsafe device and failsafe monitor with max resolustion 640x480. and I don't see any back up of my old one :(
[12:17] <moreati> (10:45:44) ratpoison: nijaba that seems to be the conversation right now
[12:18] <hetauma> moreati, I have exactly the same issue and trying to fix it :D
[12:18] <hetauma> ohh I said that?!?
[12:18] <Tavathlon> hum..
[12:18] <moreati> The conclusion 30 minutes ago was 'Wait a few days for it to get sorted'
[12:19] <Tavathlon> my problem is that linux-restricted-13 is nowhere to be found...
[12:19] <ratpoison> moreati: the conclusion was that this might be the conclusion :p
[12:19] <moreati> or drop back to 2.6.22 -12
[12:19] <Tavathlon> the system refers to 13, but it is not installed
[12:19] <moreati> whoops, overstating things again
[12:19] <ratpoison> moreati :p
[12:20] <ratpoison> anyways. real life calls. gotta go out for coffee!
[12:20] <hetauma> Tavathlon, try to switch to main server for repositories
[12:20] <hetauma> brb
[12:20] <moreati> ratpoison: that's not real life, thats a refuelling pitstop
[12:20] <ratpoison> :)
[12:22] <Tavathlon> er..  where do I switch server?  :s  can't find it in synaptics..  (and I only see half prefernces window, due to extremely low screen resolution..)
[12:22] <Tavathlon> wait, might have found it
[12:22] <hetauma> ok after installing restricted modules and reconfiguring Xserver I'm finally back to 1280x1024
[12:23] <moreati> Anway back to me! Large downloads such as an apt upgrade are sucking _all_ my bandwidth, other browsing/email feels slower than dialup. Anyone else seeing this?
[12:23] <Lynoure> moreati: yes, not surprising
[12:23] <hetauma> moreati, yeap but due to my experience it's due to how adsl works
[12:24] <moreati> (Ie it isn't as bad under Windows, and I don't think it was this bad under Feisty)
[12:24] <Lynoure> moreati: if you upgraded to feisty after it came out, then the servers were probably slower then :)
[12:26] <moreati> It's not that update downloads are slow, it's that their network traffic (or any large download) uses all my bandwidth, to the point of interfering with dns lookups of websites
[12:27] <Lynoure> moreati: yes, that's what I meant
[12:27] <moreati> Lynoure: oh I see, sorry.
[12:27] <hetauma> moreati, again in dsl when you max out your bandwith ping times even to your dns go up to 4 digits
[12:27] <Lynoure> moreati: if you upgraded to feisty when it was out, the servers were slower -> less able to fill your bandwidth
[12:27] <RivaeAerya> is gutsy safe yet on my main pc which i use for schoolwork, games, and music?
[12:28] <hetauma> moreati, try to download something else that maxes out your bandwith and you will see the same issue
[12:28] <Lynoure> RivaeAerya: Are you ok if it is not working for a day?
[12:28] <RivaeAerya> Lynoure: well, could come at a bad time..
[12:28] <Lynoure> RivaeAerya: if not, stick to a released version
[12:28] <Tavathlon> hetauma, when doing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xgl', (which I assume I will have to do after my install of the restricted drivers that are now available (yayz!)), will I have to manually change anything, or will that command fix it automatically?
[12:29] <hetauma> Tavathlon, 1st I did that for xserver-xorg (nvidia here and not sure if nvidia is the issue that I have xserver-xorg)... sec phone
[12:29] <RivaeAerya> Lynoure: how's the kubuntu variant coming along?
[12:29] <redheat> guys just a quick help around here please
[12:30] <moreati> hetauma: yes, that's exactly what I've done and it's as you describe. But if I perform the same download in Windows then web browsing and imap email remain tolerable. As though Windows is doing some prioritisation of network traffic, that Gutsy either isn't doing or has different presets for.
[12:30] <redheat> if I want to run nvidia-xconfig
[12:30] <redheat> which command to use?
[12:30] <redheat> is it sudo
[12:30] <redheat> cause I'm beind asked to run nvidia-xconfig as root
[12:30] <Nookie^> yes sudo
[12:30] <Lynoure> RivaeAerya: some hickups, like strigi taking 98% of cpu and crashing :)
[12:30] <redheat> just one more question,
[12:30] <redheat> how to restore a backed up file
[12:31] <moreati> redheat: please use one line for your question, not many lines one after the other
[12:31] <redheat> ok I'm sorry. Can you please tell me how to restore a backed up file?
[12:31] <moreati> redheat: was it nvidia-xconfig that said it had backed up the file?
[12:31] <Lynoure> RivaeAerya: no suspend-to-ram recovery on my laptop at least. Otherwise fine enough for me, but the restricted module problem just left some people I know GUIless for a bit :)
[12:31] <RivaeAerya> the kubuntu color scheme did not change, right?
[12:31] <redheat> yes
[12:31] <hetauma> Tavathlon, after that during the configuration I think I followed the suggested values except the section where I chose the resolution
[12:31] <Lynoure> RivaeAerya: I would not know
[12:31] <hetauma> moreati, are u talking about windows updates?
[12:31] <Lynoure> RivaeAerya: I always use my own.
[12:32] <RivaeAerya> Lynoure: your own colorscheme? which is that?
[12:32] <redheat> but this just happened after I updated Kubuntu, it was running fine till I made a major update to kubuntu
[12:33] <redheat> I should have done that before I installed my nvidia driver but still no problem
[12:33] <Tavathlon> hetauma; alright, I'll give it a try now..  wish me good luck, and thanks for the help..  :P
[12:33] <Tavathlon> bbl
[12:33] <hetauma> Tavathlon, good luck mate
[12:33] <redheat> oreati, are you there?
[12:33] <Lynoure> RivaeAerya: sorry, my irc does not do graphics... it might be googlable, put it in my blog way back ( ---> #ubuntu-offtopic)
[12:33] <moreati> hetauma: no, I know they're very throttled and smaller, I mean large downloads such as OOo for Windows, or an iso
[12:34] <redheat> hello? anyone
[12:34] <redheat> how do we restore a backed up file
[12:34] <moreati> redheat: it should also have said what path it backed it up to, something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.NVIDIA-orig. In which case the command would be mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.NVIDIA /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:35] <hetauma> moreati, are those downloads maxing out your bandwith ? I generally have this browser slowness issue in both windows and linux whenever my bandwith is maxed
[12:35] <redheat> it just gave me the name and yes it was backed up under that path
[12:35] <redheat> so oreati, the command again is
[12:35] <redheat> ?
[12:35] <Nookie^> i wonder how many years it will take before graphic card problems are gone.. especially for at
[12:35] <Nookie^> i
[12:35] <hetauma> omg xchat's spell checker doesn't have linux nor xchat included ?!?!?
[12:36] <moreati> hetauma: what version of Windows do you use? Maybe it's only XP and above. Certainly latency critical things like quake multiplayer are affected no matter what the system.
[12:37] <moreati> redheat: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.NVIDIA /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:37] <redheat> the destination is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:37] <redheat> ?
[12:37] <redheat> roger that
[12:37] <redheat> thank you
[12:37] <hetauma> moreati, xp pro. now if u are talking about latency critical things like online gaming on my dsl I can't download anything if I want to play smoothly
[12:38] <moreati> hetauma: ditto, but web browsing is less affected on XP/Vista than it is on Gutsy, I find
[12:38] <hetauma> moreati, and again I believe that this issue is not due to the operating system
[12:39] <moreati> hetauma: ok, I'll do some more trials, maybe I'm misremembering.
[12:45] <Tavathlon> alright, I'm back now..
[12:45] <Tavathlon> the drivers are now installed, but I still have the lousy screen resolution - not really sure how to fix it..
[12:47] <majnoon> this getting slooooower
[12:47] <Tavathlon> hetauma?  you still here?
[12:47] <hetauma> yes
[12:48] <majnoon> says over 1 DAY left
[12:48] <hetauma> Tavathlon, did u reconfigyre xserver?
[12:48] <Tavathlon> no, I realized I have no idea how to do it..  >.<
[12:48] <Tavathlon> so I thought I should ask..  =P
[12:50] <Tavathlon> I don't dare to fiddle around to much on my own, I've lost my X too many times for that, and I'm not really good at this kind of stuff..  =P
[12:50] <hetauma> Tavathlon, basicly all I did was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and followed all the default values (which are actually those from the previous installation at least for keyboard layout etc) till I chose the resolution
[12:51] <CountX> anyone know how to fix grub error 17?
[12:51] <CountX> i tried to re-setup grub with a live cd, nothing...
[12:52] <ChildX> hello
[12:52] <hetauma> hmm on the other hand ... if you remove xserver-xorg and then install it again ? would that be automaticly configured?
[12:52] <majnoon> it was &%&^%&^%*&^( google desktop
[12:52] <ChildX> is WINE installed by default in gutsy beta?
[12:53] <CountX> ChildX no
[12:53] <Tavathlon> hetauma, I'm running that command now..  =)   should I follow the manual or the autodetect?
[12:53] <CountX> ChildX long answer, it will in final, or im switching to fedora 8
[12:53] <hetauma> autodetect
[12:54] <Tavathlon> alright..  going for it now =)
[12:55] <ba5e> wow 160mb update....nice :)
[12:55] <hetauma> gl
[12:55] <ba5e> I love updating ubuntu....it is so satisfying!
[12:55] <nanonyme> it is?
[12:55] <CountX> i wish i could get in ubuntu
[12:55] <CountX> i get error 17 for no reason after restart
[12:56] <CountX> i spent all night working and now i dont have access to all my stuff
[12:56] <AnRkey> does ctrl+alt+f2 give you a login prompt?
[12:57] <AnRkey> or does it not boot at all?
[12:57] <CountX> it is stuck at grub
[12:57] <CountX> error 17
[12:57] <AnRkey> can you see the grub menu first?
[12:57] <tapas> hi. i checked the "mount automatically" option for a removable hd in the media:/ thingy in konqueror
[12:57] <AnRkey> before the error?
[12:57] <CountX> nope
[12:57] <AnRkey> or straight to error?
[12:57] <tapas> but the device doesn't get mounted automatically ;)
[12:58] <AnRkey> CountX, boot from a live cd and edit grub config to use the previous kernel
[12:58] <CountX> i dont have any
[12:58] <AnRkey> hmm
[12:59] <AnRkey> what are u using to be here now?
[12:59] <CountX> i boot into live cd and look at menu.lst and everything is nornal
[12:59] <AnRkey> where are u?
[12:59] <CountX> AnRkey my windows
[12:59] <AnRkey> CountX, switch the current default kernel to the previous one
[01:00] <CountX> AnRkey it doesnt get to the boot, it stoped before grub shows menu
[01:00] <CountX> AnRkey and i dont have another kernel
[01:00] <AnRkey> how did you check the menu.lst?
[01:00] <CountX> boot cd
[01:00] <Tavathlon> hetauma; done now, rebooting..  I'll be back to tell how it went in a little while..  =)
[01:02] <ba5e> wow my fonts in the update window have changed....
[01:06] <ChildX> hello
[01:07] <ChildX> anyone interested in a test?
[01:07] <ChildX> i think i have found a bug in Launcher
[01:07] <ChildX> in feisty
[01:07] <ChildX> i would like to test if gutsy has that bug as well
[01:08] <ChildX> anyone?
[01:08] <ChildX> okay, bye then
[01:08] <hetauma> how can ppl be so anxious ?
[01:09] <rjek> THEY DEMAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT NOW!!!!!111!1
[01:09] <ikonia> rjek: best way to be ignored and banned
[01:09] <ikonia> !patience >rjek
[01:09] <ikonia> !caps >rjek
[01:10] <ba5e> yeah, get into the ubuntu way of life....don't stress rjek
[01:10] <redheat> hi everyone
[01:10] <rjek> I was being ironic.  Perhaps you're americans. :)
[01:10] <ba5e> hehehe.....are yanks up at this time?
[01:11] <ba5e> hi redheat
[01:11] <redheat> guys I just wanted to let you all know, and you too Oreati, I got over that problem
[01:11] <redheat> Hi ba5e
[01:11] <ba5e> i need a reboot.....new kernel *fingers crossed*
[01:11] <ba5e> brb
[01:11] <redheat> I just updated my Kubuntu, but I didn't know that there was a new kernel 22.13 till I restarted and right after the restart
[01:12] <redheat> the xserver-conifg was gone and I was faced with an abysmal 800x600 resolution and a stupid message telling me that I"m running in low-graphics mode
[01:13] <ubuntu__> did anyone else have a problem with installing the beta?
[01:13] <redheat> I just used that low-life mode to login, headed over to where the NVIDIA drivers were, their location that is, in this case it was on the Desktop
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> no
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> what happened to the nvidia drivers last night?
[01:13] <redheat> typed the following into the terminal chmod 777 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[01:13] <ba5e> they ran off with your wife! hehehe
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> was just reading a fwe minutes ago, found i'm not alone.
[01:13] <ba5e> jokes
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> ba5e: lol
[01:14] <ubuntu__> ok..... ill just try install it again
[01:14] <redheat> and then I shutdown the xserver, and reinstalled the drivers again and everything was ok
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> it wonked mine up something awful.
[01:14] <redheat> and it went ok..
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu__: are you using gutsy?
[01:15] <redheat> I just got one question..why have you, ubuntu dudette/dudes released a new kernel, especailly now, and we're like 12 days from release?
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> redheat: thats how we roll
[01:15] <redheat> yes you roll "us"  like dice
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:15] <redheat> thank you gods and godesses of development
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu__: try installing the nvidia kernel-common.. thats what i ended up doing to make my card work
[01:17] <redheat> IndyGunFreak, Oreati, gals/guys, thank you all for your help..but keep the releases down...give us some room to breath in before you hit us again..
[01:17] <redheat> thanks and take care
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> why doesn't he jsut use LTS if he wants to wait a while between releases?
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> or did he just want to whine and cry
[01:19] <Tavathlon> t has nothing to do with the problem I was having..  so the real problem is fixed..  thanks a lot!  =)
[01:19] <Tavathlon> oh fuck
[01:19] <Tavathlon> bloody touchpad..  -_-
[01:19] <stdin> !language
[01:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:19] <Tavathlon> sorry..  =P
[01:20] <CountX> error 17 still :(
[01:20] <Tavathlon> as I was saying before my touchpad made things irritating:
[01:20] <CountX> 2 hours till class :(
[01:20] <hetauma> main problem caused today I think is that there was a delay of linux-restricted-modules-13 on many servers....
[01:20] <hetauma> which was a good test for bulletprof X tho
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> Grub 17?
[01:21] <hetauma> btw bulletproof X shouldn't keep a back up of xorg.conf?
[01:21] <Tavathlon> hetauma, things are working now!  =)  still some minor problems here and there that were not there yesterday, but they have nothing to do with the serious problem - now I can use my computer to work with again, at least! thanks a lot!  =)
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> i hate that error.
[01:21] <hetauma> Tavathlon, welcome :D
[01:21] <CountX> IndyGunFreak fix it fix it fix it
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: how did you install?
[01:22] <Tavathlon> going back to work now, only 3,5 hour delayed...  =P
[01:22] <Tavathlon> good luck, everyone!
[01:22] <CountX> IndyGunFreak 2 months ago 0.<
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> 2mo ago?... and its been fine up to today
[01:22] <penguincentral> i've just rebooted after doing 375 updates, and i'm now using vesa graphics when i use the nvidia restricted drivers
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[01:22] <CountX> yesh
[01:23] <penguincentral> what is going on?
[01:23] <CountX> IndyGunFreak i was using windows for about 4 days without restarting, then restarted, and BAM
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: well, that shoudln't really effect grub.
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: u using vista?
[01:24] <kristjan_> uhoh, I lost nvidia driver - how long will restricted modules be unavailable for upgrade?
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: i lost it to, i think everybody did.
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> but i installed the nvidia kernel,
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> whichlet me reenable the nvidia driver.
[01:25] <_Argasm> hi guys, can someone help me with a wireless problem in gutsy...  it's all configures but no flashing wireless light... dunno what else to try ? any ideas ?
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> then ran nvidia-settings
[01:25] <penguincentral> i'm trying to get into the restricted drivers manager and it's saying to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic
[01:26] <CountX> IndyGunFreak XP...
[01:26] <CountX> IndyGunFreak this is really pissing my off, sry
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> penguincentral: wel,l install that kernel/module
[01:26] <penguincentral> ok
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: no big deal..... you can try reinstalling grub.
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> !grub
[01:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:26] <kristjan_> IndyGunFreak: should I wait for restricted modules update? or follow your advice?
[01:27] <_Argasm> 7.04 wireless worked great, but did a fresh install of 7.10 and now I can find and configure the card but no wireless... any ideas guys ???
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: lol, well i followed my advice, and *right now* everything is fine... i couldn't runt he other way cuz my screen was like 800x600, and dual screens were screwed
[01:27] <CountX> IndyGunFreak I have, i resinstalled it to hd1,0 and hd1, no effect
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> hd1?.. it probably needs to be on hd0
[01:28] <CountX> IndyGunFreak thats where windows is
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> right.
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> grub should go on the mbr.
[01:28] <CountX> IndyGunFreak right
[01:28] <CountX> brb
[01:28] <thompa> what is the default with compiz supposed to be after install?
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> thompa: off?..lol
[01:29] <thompa> is it expo i mean
[01:29] <thompa> with two workspaces or four
[01:29] <_Argasm> can someone help me setup a wireless card
[01:29] <majnoon> it down to 14 hours now
[01:30] <kristjan_> IndyGunFreak: did I understood you right - you reinstalled "nvidia-kernel-common"?
[01:30] <kx> argasm , give wicd a try.. it works for me in gutsy
[01:30] <thompa> I had cube by default a while back but now cube will crash the desktop if i go enable it
[01:30] <ciphergoth> Just installed Gutsy beta on my new Windows XP laptop.  I'd expected that it would be dual-boot by the time I'd finished, but no menu appears at boot time.  Did something go wrong?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: thats what i did, then restarted, and restricted driver mgr. worked fine
[01:30] <thompa> IndyGunFreak: are you running compiz?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> thompa: i have, i don't like it.. so i don't use it now.
[01:31] <thompa> IndyGunFreak: what is the default
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know.
[01:31] <_Argasm> what's wicd ???
[01:31] <thompa> i had two different setups on different boxes
[01:31] <thompa> this intel macbook wont do cube, i dont care though
[01:32] <thompa> but the amd64 had it default for some reason on the nvidia
[01:33] <kx> argasm, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[01:33] <thompa> anybody can tell me what th default is when you set desk effects. Is it 2 workspaces side by side (expo i think)
[01:33] <ciphergoth> There's a /boot/grub/menu.lst that seems to have several options in it including memtest86+ but no menu at all appears at boot- it just launches right into the default
[01:34] <thompa> intel graphic problem
[01:34] <_Argasm> thx
[01:34] <thompa> this is a intel 945 I think
[01:35] <majnoon> intel MAY make ok vid CARDS but on mobo chips NOT so great
[01:36] <thompa> anybody running compiz
[01:36] <kristjan_> IndyGunFreak: this didn't help here :-/
[01:36] <thompa> im trying to test the video card
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: you probably need to update/restart.. at least i did.
[01:36] <kristjan_> IndyGunFreak: done already
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: i don't know, ike i said, worked fine for me.
[01:37] <thompa> !compiz
[01:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:37] <kristjan_> IndyGunFreak: linux-restricted-modules-generic is marked as "upgradable" in adept_updater, but this would break if applied
[01:37] <humbolto> I just read that nvidia driver 100.14.19 fixes the compiz black window bug. Will this be the version in Gutsy?!
[01:38] <kristjan_> humbolto: yes
[01:38] <thompa> ill go ask there, macbook is working great otherwise, the osx partition is down to 4G
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: i dont' know, i instaled it, and instaled all updates, and everything went fine, i then enabled the driver, and configured everything and saved X
[01:38] <humbolto> kristjan_: Oh thank god! I almost thought they released it too late!
[01:38] <thompa> humbolto: on the geforce 6200 go the black is real bad
[01:39] <CountX> IndyGunFreak i cant mount any of my drives.... :(
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: ?  what do you mean?
[01:39] <CountX> IndyGunFreak i tried to do "setup (hd0)" from grub and it gives me error 17 cant mount
[01:39] <thompa> older sony vaios i think have this card
[01:39] <humbolto> thompa: That's what I have. And did you test it with 100.14.19 yet? Is it really resolved?
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: are you on a live cd?
[01:39] <CountX> IndyGunFreak yeah
[01:39] <humbolto> thompa: one firefox window and you are there.
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> well, thas why, you have to mount the drive in order to install grub on to it.
[01:40] <CountX> IndyGunFreak i can go in computer and look at all my drives
[01:40] <majnoon> down to 12 hrs
[01:40] <kristjan_> I own the geforce 6200 go and yes, 14.19 does fix the black window bug, however now I got _bad_ memory leak
[01:40] <thompa> humbolto: i had an issue installing group, i have to have windows on the other partition
[01:40] <thompa> *grub
[01:40] <thompa> I think lilo screwed up
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: when you went throught he install process, where did you tell it to install grub?
[01:40] <majnoon> #1 rule of thumb if dual boot winblows ,install winblows FIRST
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> when you first isntalled?
[01:41] <humbolto> kristjan_: a memory leak? what does this result in? crash?
[01:41] <thompa> humbolto: the macbook works so far best with intel graphics
[01:41] <kristjan_> IndyGunFreak: do you have any unapplied updates?
[01:41] <CountX> IndyGunFreak i dont remember it was a looong time ago
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: no
[01:41] <kristjan_> humbolto: no, not crash, it will eat all your ram
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: oh ok.
[01:41] <thompa> humbolto: i got all the effects cranked up, just cube will crash
[01:41] <CountX> IndyGunFreak im pretty sure on the MBR
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> kinda wierd that error jsut started all fo a sudden
[01:42] <thompa> im wondering if i should keep the 4g osx partition
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> do you have a lot of data on your ubuntu partition?
[01:42] <humbolto> thompa: so the leak is in cube or the nvidia driver features cube uses?
[01:42] <humbolto> kristjan_: it will eat all my ram when I use compiz (cube) or any way?
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: i just double checked, it shows mys system commpletely up to date
[01:43] <thompa> humbolto: this is a an intel macbook, the other laptop is vaio with nvidia
[01:43] <humbolto> kristjan_: when will those fsckers release the driver under the GPL finally, so it can get fixed.
[01:43] <CountX> IndyGunFreak not a lot, i have a separate partition for /home/ and my ubuntu root have like 20gb free, home has like 10
[01:43] <kristjan_> humbolto: I haven't said it will eat your ram, I said it eats mine :-)
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: usually that error starts right at install.
[01:43] <kristjan_> IndyGunFreak: what country's mirror do you use?
[01:43] <thompa> nvidia has black windows always, but intel has no cube or crash
[01:43] <humbolto> kristjan_: I have a 6250 go with Turbocache as well.
[01:44] <CountX> this really sucks cause i was hoping to get a nap before class
[01:44] <CountX> now i have to fudge with this
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: well, i dot' really know about installing like that,
[01:44] <humbolto> kristjan_: So I suspect it will do the same to me.
[01:44] <kristjan_> humbolto: well, it could be different revision
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: US
[01:44] <kristjan_> humbolto: did you get black window bug immediately in the old days?
[01:44] <thompa> humbolto: im going to try different drivers
[01:45] <humbolto> kristjan_: hopefully. What vaio model do you have? Mine is a VGN-S560P, the worst laptop I have ever had by the way.
[01:45] <thompa>  mine vaio fs-660w nvidia go card
[01:45] <kristjan_> humbolto: I haven't said  I got vaio ;-)
[01:45] <thompa> heat machine
[01:45] <CountX> IndyGunFreak find /boot/grub/stage1 returns hd1,0
[01:45] <humbolto> kristjan_: The first firefox window triggered it. I could have several gnome-terminals at the same time however.
[01:45] <kristjan_> humbolto: just try it out, there is nothing to loose really
[01:46] <humbolto> kristjan_: ah, thompa had the vaio.
[01:46] <kristjan_> humbolto: you got better card then
[01:46] <humbolto> kristjan_: I'll certainly try.
[01:46] <kristjan_> humbolto: mine went completely black, except the panel and menu :-)
[01:46] <humbolto> Is there a way to get this driver for feisty?
[01:46] <thompa> actually the vaio is tougher than the macbook
[01:46] <hylje> rumor has it vaios were intended to be mac clones
[01:46] <kristjan_> humbolto: not sure, check that envy script
[01:47] <kristjan_> humbolto: or install manually
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: hmm, do you have 2 hard drives?
[01:47] <thompa> ive already had this macbook in the shop for cracks on the front panel forming
[01:47] <humbolto> as a restricted-drivers.deb I mean
[01:47] <CountX> IndyGunFreak yes
[01:47] <CountX> IndyGunFreak just 2 sata's
[01:47] <thompa> if thats aircraft material thats very cheap plastic or something
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: ok.. that should be hd0.. you can *try*.. rebooting your PC, and change your BIOS, to boot the second drive first.,.... see if grub loads that way
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> understand?
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: your bios boot sequence right now, is rpbably something like CD/DVD, Hard Drive-Master, something, something.. chnage hard drive master, to hard drive slave, or to whatever your secondary drive is.. i'm guessing that got changed somehow.
[01:50] <redheat> hi everyone
[01:50] <kristjan_> IndyGunFreak: looks like my mirror is not synced, I just changed to swedish and got many more updates
[01:51] <redheat>  just one more question,
[01:51] <CountX> IndyGunFreak my bios wont let me change individual harddrives
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> kristjan_: ok.
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> CountX: ?..