[20:05] <k5ehx> potato: so did you ever figure out screenlets? Did you install them?
[20:05] <Invisible_Kubunt> theAtom, its a ubuntu flavor per say
[20:05] <theAtom> PriceChild, hehe ok :P
[20:05] <za1> anyone? please! :-(
[20:05] <linduxed> grub caused my dvd drive to not function in both windows and linux
[20:05] <theAtom> Invisible_Kubunt, so Linux Mint 4.0 is NOT ubuntu?
[20:05] <PriceChild> theAtom, it is based on ubuntu.
[20:06] <theAtom> PriceChild, gotcha ok
[20:06] <PriceChild> theAtom, it is not by ubuntu though, and we do not provide support for it.
[20:06] <Invisible_Kubunt> theAtom, its built off ubuntu but no its not ubunutu they change some things
[20:06] <goalieca> in gnome.. what is the thumbnail daemon called?
[20:06] <theAtom> PriceChild, i dont want to use it, i was just woindring.  ill stick with Ubuntu, i love it :)
[20:06] <za1> hello? screenlets?
[20:06] <Creationist> Invisible_Kubunt: They make it better ;)
[20:06] <manduski>  hey guys, i'm on the ubuntu wifi how-to website and theres a link telling me "For cards based on Ralink's RT2500 chipset, see WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500." Mine is Ralink RT2571WF. Is it still based off the RT 2500, or is it totally different?
[20:06] <za1> please
[20:06] <theAtom> Invisible_Kubunt, those cheating dogs :P hehe
[20:06] <PriceChild> !patience | za1
[20:06] <ubotu> za1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:07] <k5ehx> za1: sudo apt-get install screenlets  <- is that what you are asking?
[20:07] <a_l_e> i can ping in the local net but even pinging the dns server gives an error "connect: Network is unreachable"
[20:07] <Dimitree> how can i repair my ubuntu ? I followed a guide for installing ATI drivers and it messed up everything :[ do i have to reinstall ubuntu or there is a way to return ubuntu to default mode ?
[20:07] <Invisible_Kubunt> Creationist, my problem is still doig the same even after install it goes to the Login Screen of a fresh install I have to hit CTRL+ALT+DEL to get it to show the gui
[20:07] <alexkreuz> is anyone familiar with a case where firefox crashes if you keep javascript enabled ?
[20:07] <za1> i've installed them...
[20:07] <Invisible_Kubunt> lol
[20:07] <timandtom_> The latest flashplugin-nonfree update messed up for me, now I can't even load anything flash, and when I go to reinstall it in Firefox, it says it's already installed. Anyone know whats going on?
[20:07] <PriceChild> timandtom_, /topic
[20:07] <za1> i can't install more gadgets, i can't make it run from startup
[20:07] <tripps> argh - glxgears just crapped my session . . .
[20:07] <erUSUL> timandtom_: try removing and reinstalling it
[20:07] <neb_net> Invisible_Kubunt, could you elaborate on that
[20:08] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: i thought I read somewhere that even the latest restricted ati drivers automatically used aiglx now so it wasn't necessary . . .but that doesn't seem to be the case
[20:08] <Invisible_Kubunt> neb_net, did you do a check to see if the module was even already loaded?
[20:08] <erUSUL> timandtom_: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree &&  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:08] <timandtom_> PriceChild: I know theres been an update, I already got it, the problem is the FIX has BROKEN flash for me
[20:08] <timandtom_> erUSUL: Ok, I'll try that, thanks
[20:08] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, what video card do you have?
[20:08] <PriceChild> timandtom_, reinstalled the package?
[20:09] <k5ehx> za1: sorry, I can't seem to find your question
[20:09] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: radeon 9600
[20:09] <Dimitree> how can i repair my ubuntu ? I followed a guide for installing ATI drivers and it messed up everything :[ do i have to reinstall ubuntu or there is a way to return ubuntu to default mode ? Please :[
[20:09] <timandtom_> PriceChild: Didn't think of it till erUSUL suggested it, I'l tryin it now
[20:09] <timandtom_> PriceChild and erUSUL: No luck, reinstall didn't work.
[20:09] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, if I remember correct the 9600 isn't covered by the new drivers they can only use the old DRI Drivers
[20:09] <tripps> Dimitree: what problems are you having exactly?
[20:09] <neb_net> Invisible_Kubunt, I did a lsmod, it wasn't listed
[20:09] <k5ehx> za1: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/12/03/os-x-like-widgets-with-screenlets-on-ubuntu-update/   <- does that answer the question?
[20:10] <Invisible_Kubunt> neb_net, what is the command your doing again?
[20:10] <za1> i've seen some sites that says that you sould go to /usr/local/share/screenlets  o home/USER/.screenlets
[20:10] <erUSUL> timandtom_: ? you removed it and reinstalling and have you closed firefox and open it again?
[20:10] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: ati just released in oct the new drivers that support aiglx now. i just installed them  - not sure about the ubuntu repo tho
[20:10] <za1> but i don have those files
[20:10] <Dimitree> tripps, i see wierd graphics when ubuntu starts and it turns off and on the monitor couple of times
[20:10] <za1> they don exist
[20:10] <timandtom_> erUSUL: Yup
[20:10] <neb_net> Invisible_Kubunt,modprobe snd_intel8x0
[20:10] <red_one> can i netboot from a desktop i386 iso image?
[20:10] <Dimitree> tripps, even when i uninstalled the drivers it continues to do so
[20:10] <timandtom_> erUSUL: Had firefox closed the whole time I was un/reinstalling
[20:10] <shr1k3> Dimitree: you CAN try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to start over
[20:10] <erUSUL> timandtom_: well it owrked like a charm for me and i'm using 64 bit ubuntu here
[20:11] <tripps> Dimitree: is it usable? can you get follow shr1k3's instructions to get it back to original
[20:11] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, good luck getting them to actually use the AIGLX trust me I spent over a week trying to get a darn Rage 128 chip on this laptop using those drivers
[20:11] <PriceChild> timandtom_, what did the terminal do?
[20:11] <k5ehx> za1: /usr/local/share is usually created if you compile and install something manually. /home/me/.screenlets is probably created when you run the program. It's invisible, also.
[20:11] <Dimitree> i will try right now
[20:11] <PriceChild> timandtom_, what did it say?
[20:11] <Invisible_Kubunt> neb_net, what is the error again
[20:11] <timandtom_> PriceChild and erUSUL: Ah, wait, it worked this time. I reinstalled via Synaptic before, this time used terminal. Thanks guys
[20:12] <erUSUL> timandtom_: no problem
[20:12] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: any idea if the ubuntu restricted repos use any similar versioning to the underlying driver? ati repo is 7.x; ati catalyst is 8.01
[20:12] <alexkreuz> what exactly is the adobe bug?
[20:12] <danand> fred9 - take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55016/ - That should give you a working /etc/apt/sources.list file. Copy the text (using the bottom window so it doesn't include the line numbers) and save it as your /etc/apt/sources.list file. After that run sudo apt-get update. Then run sudo apt-get upgrade. Then after that you can sudo apt-get install emacs :)
[20:12] <k5ehx> za1: you might have looked for /home/USER/.screenlets with something that doesn't show you invisible files, maybe?
[20:12] <alexkreuz> does it cause firefox to close unexpectedly?
[20:12] <za1> yeap, but i do the crtl+h thing, and it isn't there
[20:12] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, if I remember right the rep only supports from the x1000 and newer models if I remember what I read right
[20:13] <neb_net> Invisible_Kubunt, the error was FATAL: error inserting snd_intel8x0 ... : Bad address
[20:13] <fred9> danand thx, i'll try that
[20:13] <sky_> YAY
[20:13] <sky_> TIME TO UNINSTALL FLASH AND REINSTALL
[20:13] <smallfoot-> Fedora 9 will have full-disk encryption, Windows Vista has BitLocker Drive Encryption, Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" has FileVault, wtf does Ubuntu have?
[20:13] <PriceChild> !wtf | smallfoot-
[20:13] <ubotu> smallfoot-: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:13] <erUSUL> !caps | sky_
[20:13] <ubotu> sky_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:13] <mahmoud_> smallfoot- : Ubuntu 7.10 has full disk encryption :)
[20:14] <PriceChild> smallfoot-, ubuntu has had full drive encryption from the alternate cd since gutsy at least.
[20:14] <Dimitree> tripps, Users of PowerPC machines, and users of any computer with multiple video  ↑
[20:14] <Dimitree>  │ devices, should specify the BusID of the video card in an accepted        ▮
[20:14] <Dimitree>  │ bus-specific format.
[20:14] <sky_> erUSUL: sorry about that, I'm just happy :)
[20:14] <Willyboy666> invisible_ubuntu in dmesg i didnt see a trace for the wacom touch device????/
[20:14] <jjgalvez> can someone help me with cupsys: after lastnights update it won't work any longer and when I tried to reinstall it I get an apt-get error sayting it can't configure  cups
[20:14] <PriceChild> smallfoot-, I'm using it as we speak.
[20:14] <Dimitree> tripps, i am stuck on that screen :/ there is a OK button but i cant click it :/
[20:14] <Zamboli> fatal: modul rt61 not found :(
[20:14] <Invisible_Kubunt> Willyboy666, How new of a device is it.. most likely if its new its USB over 5 years old maybe serial
[20:14] <smallfoot-> mahmoud_, it does not
[20:14] <Invisible_Kubunt> Willyboy666, did you even bother to go to the manufacture page?
[20:14] <Dimitree> tripps,  pressing enter makes nothing too :/
[20:14] <maj> is there any way to check if 'mv' command executed successfuly within a script?  It doesn't look like it returns any codes.
[20:14] <smallfoot-> PriceChild, then why is it not on the normal cd, i got the normal cd, not the alternative cd, and i didnt have no full disk encryption
[20:15] <erUSUL> Zamboli: rt61pci
[20:15] <mahmoud_> smallfoot: it does but you'll have to use the alternative cd (as PriceChild said)
[20:15] <za1> unable to launch or conect deamon
[20:15] <za1> some values may be displayed incorrectly
[20:15] <Invisible_Kubunt> maj, it doesn't give a output sayings its done.. just does it
[20:15] <PriceChild> smallfoot-, you're welcome to submit patches to get lvm and encryption displays in ubiquity to play nice.
[20:15] <tripps> Dimitree: you can kill the X session with ctrl+alt+backspace
[20:15] <Willyboy666> yeh man its a gateway c 120-x  half a year old
[20:15] <za1> that's the error shown when i run the screenlets manager
[20:15] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: where do you specify in the xorg.conf file to use aiglx rather than xgl?
[20:15] <smallfoot-> mahmoud_, well i dont use alternatte cd, i download normal default cd like everyone else
[20:15] <jjgalvez> essentially I am getting this error when I try to install cupsys  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54961/
[20:15] <Zamboli> erUSULL id didn't give me an error message...
[20:16] <Zamboli> it*
[20:16] <maj> Invisible_Kubunt, is there any way to dump the return code into a variable?
[20:16] <maj> and then print it out?
[20:16] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, it doesn't it does automaticly its the new standard.. I've been trying to find out where to tell it NOT to use AIGLX and I can't find anywhere that will tell me to
[20:16] <erUSUL> Zamboli: great then it loaded fine
[20:16] <smallfoot-> that guy mark shuttleman went to space and is richest man in africa, he should hire someone in cannonincial to make full disk encryption
[20:16] <mahmoud_> smallfoot-: not "everyone" only download the desktop CD ..
[20:16] <Invisible_Kubunt> maj, there is no return code that is what I'm saying did you mv --help to see if you can tell it to verbose info?
[20:17] <za1> :'(
[20:17] <maj> hrm, lemme look
[20:17] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: then how come i'm still running xgl from a fresh ati 8.x install from scratch?
[20:17] <PriceChild> smallfoot-, we have it. Use the alternate cd.
[20:17] <Dimitree> tripps, ok i rpessed that and it restarted or something and i get these errors The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet".The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_TrashApplet". --- Should i Delete them or no ?
[20:17] <smallfoot-> i already instaleld te wrong cd
[20:17] <sky_> excuse me, what version is the fixed flash-nonfree installer?
[20:17] <smallfoot-> i hope Hardy HEron will have it in default cd
[20:17] <v0idnool> when I try to lock screen, it KILLS my session. This includes the screen saver, if the screen saver kicks in, trying to end it will kill my session and fully log me out, closing all my programs. This is not what I expected so how can I go about changing that? Thanks
[20:17] <PriceChild> !info flashplugin-nonfree | sky_
[20:18] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, 3d acceleration means AIGLX from what I've read.. No 3d Acceleration = NO AIGLX
[20:18] <ubotu> sky_: flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.2+really0ubuntu12.1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[20:18] <Dimitree> gosh i will never install anything out of the ubuntu rep again >____<
[20:18] <IndyGunFreak> smallfoot-: its easy to install from adobe.com.. its not really anythign to stress about.
[20:18] <sky_> thats the fixed one?
[20:18] <sky_> hmm
[20:18] <Dimitree> *outside
[20:18] <za1> help :-$
[20:18] <Zamboli> erUSULL ... what else do i need to do?
[20:18] <sky_> I think I'll wait a day or two just in case though
[20:19] <Willyboy666> invisible_ubuntu my device is 6 month old gateway c 120-x    u7600  1.2gh  intel 945  wacom penalbed
[20:19] <PriceChild> za1, no-one seems to know. Perhaps repeat your full question, ask at different times of the day or try things like answers.launchpad.net or ubuntuforums.org
[20:19] <maj> Invisible_Kubunt, hrm.... that sucks, -v doesn't do what i need it to
[20:19] <erUSUL> Zamboli: i dunno what you want to achieve i only saw that you were using a wrong module name.
[20:19] <za1> buuu
[20:19] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: not quite (from my understanding) - aiglx adds 2D app HW accel to the overall 3D compiz accel that xgl only provides
[20:19] <danand> maj - there is a code returned by all commands executed in shell or shell script. type echo $? to see it - 0 means success 1 means failed usually
[20:19] <Invisible_Kubunt> maj, sorry but mv command wasn't meant to do much but move it
[20:19] <za1> ok, thanks
[20:20] <alexkreuz> can someone help me
[20:20] <alexkreuz> my firefox automatically closes when i go to this url
[20:20] <maj> hrm, so $? returns the code of the prev command?
[20:20] <danand> maj - yes
[20:20] <alexkreuz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ
[20:20] <erUSUL> Zamboli: if you are trying to configure a wifi connection go to the network manager icon on the right top corner
[20:20] <Pici> maj: the exit code, yes.
[20:20] <alexkreuz> unless i disable javascript
[20:20] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, maybe so, all I know is older devices like 9600 and the one I have isn't supported by the repo drivers, and good luck getting them to work from ATI.. Nvidia > ATI
[20:20] <maj> ok, thx, that'll work
[20:20] <alexkreuz> then it works
[20:20] <hinotf> hi all!
[20:20] <tripps> Dimitree: get to terminal and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org and reboot :)
[20:21] <hinotf> why lm-sensors show negative temperature on MB and CPU ?
[20:21] <Jagatuba> how do I add groups to a user account through the terminal?
[20:21] <rsfriends> how can i update gdesklets?
[20:21] <danand> maj - you can use that in scripts. ie mv file file2 .... if [ $? = 1 ]; then; echo "mv error.."; fi or something like that
[20:21] <Invisible_Kubunt> Jagatuba, addgroup --help
[20:22] <rsfriends> i did trie sudo apt-get update  gdesklets but did not work?
[20:22] <SyncopatedFoo1> gtk+ applications, and also opera, randomly stop accepting input from my keyboard.  QT apps and firefox does not do this.  any ideas?
[20:22] <Dimitree> tripps, Package `xserver-org' is not installed and no info is available. lol
[20:22]  * zoom is away: traduc LHU 76
[20:22] <Zamboli> Well the internet still isnt working. take me now lord
[20:22] <Dimitree> I will never buy ATI AGAIN !
[20:22] <DRebellion> rsfriends: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[20:22] <rsfriends> ok
[20:22] <indigo196> Dimitree -- what happened with ATI?
[20:22] <rsfriends> thx
[20:23] <Dimitree> followed a guide to install drivers and messed up my ubuntu
[20:23] <Dimitree> .____.
[20:23] <indigo196> Ah... did you try using Envy?
[20:23] <tripps> Dimitree: sorry - xserver-xorg
[20:23] <Pici> !envy
[20:23] <zoom> intel is opensource and now has opened documentation for his chipsets since few days
[20:23] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[20:23] <alexkreuz> where does firefox install the user profile data?
[20:23] <SyncopatedFoo1> /home/xxxxxx/.firefox
[20:24] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: found a howto on fedora that talks about running this: gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true
[20:24] <tripps> desktop-effects
[20:24] <indigo196> ubotu: while Envy is not supported it does a good job.
[20:24] <Pici> alexkreuz: ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxx.default/
[20:24] <alexkreuz> is /.mozilla a hidden folder?
[20:24] <_elemental> alexkreuz, in the /home/user/.mozilla
[20:24] <MrRoland> 'suported to 2009" that means that there won;t be any updates after 2009 ? I have to reinstall ?
[20:24] <Dimitree> tripps, i did that again and i'm agains tuck on the last page unable to select the OK :/
[20:24] <DRebellion> alexkreuz: any folder/file prefixed with a '.' is 'hidden'
[20:25] <alexkreuz> how can i get into it?
[20:25] <Dimitree> god damn it :/
[20:25] <alexkreuz> ah
[20:25] <alexkreuz> nm
[20:25] <alexkreuz> goti
[20:25] <SyncopatedFoo1> does anyone know certain applications stop accepting input from my keyboard, and others don't, all at the same time?  i can give you a list of specific applications this happens to
[20:25] <_elemental> cd ~/.mozilla
[20:25] <musikgoat> MrRoland: usually it means that the particular distro would need to be updated
[20:25] <Pici> MrRoland: It means that there are no security updates/critical fixes after 2009.  reinstalling it wont help, you'll need to upgrade.
[20:25] <SyncopatedFoo1> this problem has been happening since i upgraded to gutsy
[20:25] <_elemental> ls -alF will show you all files/folders
[20:25] <danand> alexkreuz - all folders and files prefixed with a . are hidden - type ls -a in a terminal to list hidden files
[20:25] <rama_8086> how can open .rar file in ubuntu
[20:25] <Pici> !rar | rama_8086
[20:25] <ubotu> rama_8086: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[20:26] <Zamboli> I was trying to compile the RT61 driver, and got a bunch of 'such and such is not defined' and 'assignment from incomaptible pointer type' ERRORS when i tried to compile with 'make'
[20:26] <tripps> Dimitree: switch to console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and run it there
[20:26] <hinotf> why lm-sensors show negative temperature on MB and CPU ?
[20:26] <DRebellion> Zamboli: sounds like source code errors...
[20:26] <danand> rama_8086 - use the command unrar e file.rar - you'll need the unrar package though
[20:26] <Zamboli> DRebellion: i got it from the Ralink site...
[20:27] <Zamboli> I'm not sure if the driver will help. I can already see my router and MAC address and SSID with my card, without the driver
[20:27] <Zamboli> in iwconfig, but i cant get on any webpages or anything
[20:27] <alexkreuz> cool thx guys
[20:27] <alexkreuz> had to dump the firefox profiles
[20:28] <Invisible_Kubunt> Zambezi, did you get a ipaddress from the router yet?
[20:28] <sfingo> ciao a tutti
[20:28] <SyncopatedFoo1> does anyone know why keyboard inputs on applications keep locking up randomly, but others don't, since i upgraded to gutsy?
[20:28] <Invisible_Kubunt> Zambezi, was having the same problem as you and followed a website that got me online in 10 minutes wireless is bad sometimes
[20:28] <vallhalla81> what distro would you sugest i use on a old del laptop was running win before now
[20:29] <shr1k3> hinotf: i think lm-sensor may need to be configured - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2780.html
[20:29] <sfingo> ciao a dopo
[20:29] <Pici> !it | sfingo
[20:29] <DRebellion> vallhalla81: how old?
[20:29] <ubotu> sfingo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:29] <musikgoat> vallhalla81: what are the specs?   xubuntu is best for low cpu/memory situations
[20:29] <Zamboli>  Invisible_Kubunt: not %100 on IP
[20:29] <DRebellion> vallhalla81: what specs (cpu/ram)?
[20:29] <bastid_raZor> if i were having issues with X or my xorg.conf where would the errors be so that i might see them?
[20:29] <vallhalla81> i will just ask one moment
[20:29] <musikgoat> Zamboli: type ifconfig in terminal
[20:29] <dep> bastid_raZor: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:30] <bastid_raZor> dep thanks
[20:30] <hinotf> shr1k3, thanks
[20:30] <vallhalla81> its from 1999 but has 1gig ram
[20:30] <tripps> Dimitree: again - go to text console (ctrl+alt+F1) and rung the dpkg-reconfigure. kill x and you'll be working with something
[20:30] <danand> fred9 - how you getting on?
[20:30] <vallhalla81> but still the origanl prosessor
[20:30] <musikgoat> vallhalla81: you don't know what the cpu is though?
[20:30] <Zamboli> musikgoat: lo inet addr: ?
[20:30] <musikgoat> Zamboli: not lo    eth0  or eth1
[20:31] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to make a G7 mouse work properly? Every time I edit xorg.conf, the video drivers mess up. I'm using the restricted nVidia drivers.
[20:31] <Zamboli> musikgoat: wifi0 for wifi?
[20:31] <musikgoat> Zamboli: yes
[20:31] <Photo1> OK, I now have my Dell 27" LCD running with nvidia accel drivers :)
[20:31] <LukeLClient> !help
[20:31] <musikgoat> Zamboli: what is the inet addr for wifi0?
[20:32] <Zamboli> musikgoat: there is none
[20:32] <jars> Hello
[20:32] <Photo1> musikgoat: can't you get it with axel? (just a guess)
[20:32] <Invisible_Kubunt> Zambezi, go to the madwifi webpage and follow there instructions for getting a IP address via dhcp and selecting your router etc
[20:32] <Zamboli> ok i havent tried there
[20:32] <Photo1> oh, never mind (butts out) :P
[20:32] <Zamboli> thanks
[20:32] <vallhalla81> ok found it its a pentum 2
[20:32] <musikgoat> heh
[20:33] <Zaehlas> Hello.  I could use some crtical help.  My server is down, running Gutsy 7.10 64 bit.  After kernel upgrade yesterday, my network connection dropped.  I had to switch to a different computer.  My server won't talk to my cable modem anymore.  It might be a routing issue, as for a time, I could ping the gateway, but no other IP addresses.   help?
[20:33] <Tyger> i have a cd that came with my college textbook, how can i view the progs in wine?
[20:34] <Photo1> Zaehias: Can you access the router's web interface by surfing to <IP_ADDRESS> (or similar)?
[20:34] <Photo1> (to see if the router is alive)
[20:34] <vallhalla81> musikgoat its a pentium 2
[20:34] <musikgoat> vallhalla81: xubuntu is good for older systems, because the graphical manager is xfce, a low cost GUI,  otherwise, give ubuntu a try and see how it performs
[20:34] <Photo1> If the router works for other pcs/OSes it's fine I guess
[20:34] <DRebellion> Tyger: take a look at the "autorun" file (or similar) in the root directory of the cdrom and use wine to run the binary it specifies.
[20:35] <Zaehlas> Photo1: I have a static IP address, and don't know how to access the cable modem.  It's a rental from my cable company, so I don't have access to the web interface for it.
[20:35] <vallhalla81> ok thnk you
[20:35] <Zaehlas> Photo1: yeah, I'm using now on this laptop, windows, unfortunately, but better than nothing at this point.
[20:35] <Photo1> Ah, no router? Got it. You should test it on another computer tho.
[20:35] <fred9> danand it's working!You're the best!
[20:35] <Photo1> It works? Well, then it's in Linux.
[20:35] <pocketdrummer> How necessary is it to have anti-virus and a firewall?
[20:36] <hinotf> i think there is still problem
[20:36] <kea0463> hello
[20:36] <fred9> Photo1 lol
[20:36] <kasra> pocketdrummer: desktop user ?
[20:36] <bastid_raZor> pocketdrummer; for Ubuntu i haven't run had or run either in over a year
[20:36] <hinotf> only one modul line in modules
[20:36] <kea0463> can i create my own channel with xchat
[20:36] <Zaehlas> Photo1: Any way to fix it?  If I try to ping "outside" my network using my server connected normally, my internal address responds that no route possible.  But I use Firestarter to set up dhcp, etc.
[20:36] <musikgoat> pocketdrummer: a firewall is very neccessary, but i'm not so sure about a/v,  i don't use a/v
[20:36] <bastid_raZor> pocketdrummer; but a firewall i use my router to block ports etc..
[20:36] <danand> fred9 - no problem - now I'm blushing :) - make sure you run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade regularly for security updates :)
[20:37] <Photo1> Zaehlas: No idea, seems upgrade has a problem with your modem.
[20:37] <Tyger> drebellion; how? i opened the autorun.inf with wine, but nothing happened...
[20:37] <Photo1> Can anyone recommend a 3D game or demo that benchmarks my Ubuntu? :)
[20:37] <sherl0k> glxgears
[20:37] <hinotf> Unreal Tournament
[20:37] <dep> Photo1: glxgears is standard
[20:38] <Photo1> OK, will try it :)
[20:38] <pocketdrummer> And do any of you know how to make a G7 mouse work? Do I need to disable the nVidia drivers in order to edit xorg.conf without problems?
[20:38] <kasra> Photo1: Tremulous
[20:38] <DRebellion> Tyger: _read_ the autorun.inf (eg  cat autorun.inf)
[20:39] <dep> pocketdrummer: the mouse driver is separate from the video driver, there should not be a conflict. What does it say in dmesg when you plug the mouse in?
[20:39] <deepfreez> Hi, i running ubuntu and i have some problems with kvirc : http://pastebin.ca/894261
[20:39]  * erUSUL remembers when yopu have to do 'glxgears -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark' to make it print the fps
[20:39] <fred9> danand thx
[20:39] <Zaehlas> OK, anyone else have an idea?  After kernel upgrade yesterday, my server stopped talking to my cable modem.  The NIC's seem to work, and I could ping the gateway (after the modem) but no further.  I've currently hooked up my laptop direct to the modem to get internet to talk to you all, but I've tried reboots, restarting modem, reconfiguring Firestarter, and nothing seems to work.
[20:39] <xenthro> I'm getting this MySQL error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[20:39] <deepfreez> ! qt
[20:39] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[20:39] <shaun> hey i'm running gutsy and when my system boots up it hangs for a few minutes while "Starting hardware abstraction layer hald"
[20:40] <Willyboy666> invisible_ubuntu i run the command :lsusb | grep -i wacomBus      i got  this   :001 Device 003: ID 056a:0093 Wacom Co., Ltd
[20:40] <dep> xenthro: make sure the mysql daemon is running (ps -A | grep mysqld)
[20:40] <shaun> i found a bug report online but it says that the fix was released
[20:40] <shaun> but its not fixed for my system i guess
[20:40] <Photo1> I can't believe google.com/linuxing for glxgears download gives me nothing !
[20:40] <hwilde> shaun, get all the updtes
[20:40] <pocketdrummer> how do I highlight someone's name? /msg <name>?
[20:41] <shaun> https://launchpad.net/hal/+bug/92647
[20:41] <shaun> thats the bug report
[20:41] <xenthro> dep its not, how do i start it?
[20:41] <LukeLM> Photo1, you should have glxgears, try opening a console window and type in glxgears
[20:42] <dep> xentrho: 'sudo mysqld' from a command line should start it, although usually you want the database server to start on boot, I gotta check how ubuntu does that currently if you want it to always start on boot
[20:42] <tripps> mmm perhaps removing the xserver-xgl will do the trick :)
[20:42] <Photo1> That's not much of a demo. :P No huge maps, no textures with anisotropic etc...
[20:43] <Stoffer> I'm currently running Gnome, but if I wanted to try out KDE on my machine, how would I go about switching in a manner that would allow me to easily go back to gnome?
[20:43] <LukeLM> Photo1, it's a benchmark the fps is displayed in the console window
[20:43] <Photo1> Well, it's not much of a real world benchmark if it just tests poly fillrate...
[20:43] <pepperjack> Stoffer: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   then at login just click 'sessions' button to login to either gnome or kde
[20:43] <sherl0k> Stoffer, install KDE and then when you log out, change the in sessions
[20:44] <erUSUL> Photo1: install the quake wars demo...
[20:44] <Invisible_Kubunt> anyone know what the command to install smb/nfs is for apt-get .. telling me smb isn't a valid package
[20:44] <pepperjack> quake wars did about bring my machine to its knees
[20:44] <Photo1> modern gfx cards have pixelshaders, antialiasing quality levels, pixelpipe fx...
[20:44] <Photo1> :)
[20:44] <Photo1> Yeah, I was thinking of installing some id games :) But I have to compile them, right?
[20:44] <LukeLM> Invisible_Kubunt try smbfs or samba
[20:45] <hwilde> !cedega | Photo1
[20:45] <ubotu> Photo1: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[20:45] <hwilde> !wine | Photo1
[20:45] <ubotu> Photo1: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[20:46] <Photo1> hwilde, yeah, I've heard about it... but DX support is not perfect yet, is it?
[20:46] <tripps> aha!
[20:46] <PsySine> what package should I install to get manpages for programming functions?
[20:46] <Stoffer> pepperjack, sherl0k: sweet, thanks
[20:46] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: that was the trick!
[20:46] <Tyger> drebellion: im confused.....could you explain more...
[20:46] <Photo1> Wouldn't mind installing my Quake 3 - but do I really run it in cedega?
[20:46] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, ?
[20:46] <Invisible_Kubunt> LukeLM, thnx
[20:46]  * Photo1 will be right back
[20:46] <erUSUL> Photo1: quake 3 engine is gpl
[20:47] <dep> PsySine: what language?
[20:47] <erUSUL> Photo1: install open arena
[20:47] <hwilde> Photo1, i think ms owns dx :/
[20:47] <aricz_> Photo1 : no.. quake run natively on linux
[20:47] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: uninstall xserver-xgl and x will use aiglx automatically
[20:47] <shaun> hwilde, i just got all of the updates
[20:47] <tripps> in my case anyway
[20:47] <jjgalvez> can anyone help me get cupsys installed?
[20:47] <shaun> and its still hanging when trying to start hald
[20:47] <PsySine> dep: english is ok :)
[20:47] <hwilde> shaun, do you have any rare hardware attached
[20:48] <maui> what init system does ubuntu 7 use?
[20:48] <shaun> hwilde, nope
[20:48] <dep> PsySine: oops, sorry, I meant what programming language =)
[20:48] <pocketdrummer> Could someone explain how to highlight someone's name to talk directly to them? Is it /msg <name>?
[20:48] <shaun> hwilde, it was working fine until today when i tried to boot up
[20:48] <Starnestommy> maui: upstart, which is someahwt similar to sysv
[20:48] <PsySine> dep: inte this case C
[20:48] <shaun> hwilde, i had just enstalled enlightenment and a few additional packages that go with that
[20:48] <Starnestommy> pocketdrummer: /msg nick message, but you may need to register first. See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[20:48] <tripps> Invisible_Kubunt: glxinfo shows Yes for hw rendering now
[20:48] <maui> Starnestommy i thought upstart was mac's system.. hmm ok thanks
[20:49] <Invisible_Kubunt> tripps, nice
[20:49] <dep> PsySine: manpages-dev I believe
[20:49] <Shell> Dae galera...
[20:49] <Shell> Alguem usando Hardy Heron ai?
[20:49] <erUSUL> !pt | Shell
[20:49] <ubotu> Shell: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[20:50] <PsySine> dep: thanks a lot, 谢谢！
[20:50] <Vlet> Anyone know how I can prevent apache from automatically gzipping old log files?
[20:50] <shaun> hwilde, the bug was reported here last year
[20:50] <shaun> https://launchpad.net/hal/+bug/92647
[20:50] <dep> Shell: Sim, mas meu portugues e.... muito mal?
[20:50] <erUSUL> Vlet: that is done by logrotate i think
[20:51] <Vlet> erUSUL: Ahh, thanks - I suspected it was done by something external
[20:51] <hwilde> shaun, hald is the hardware abstraction layer daemon.  it must be trying to initialize or recognize some hardware and taking awhile
[20:51] <erUSUL> Vlet: dunno why you would want to keep old logs unzipped...
[20:51] <Stoffer> for installing kde, should I choose gdm or kdm for the default display manager?  kdm right?
[20:51] <shaun> hwilde, so what can i do?
[20:52] <jjgalvez> can anyone help with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54961/
[20:52] <dep> Stoffer: probably kdm, since it uses the same libraries as the rest of KDE
[20:52] <toresn> i've added two more workspaces to my system (from two to four), but there weren't added options for keyboard shortcuts on these... why is this?
[20:52] <hwilde> shaun, type in   hald --version   what do u have
[20:53] <shaun> hwilde, <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:53] <Photo1> ugh, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=463595
[20:54] <Photo1> Linux coders add accel, and recommendation is "buy a new mouse" if you don't like it...
[20:54] <Photo1> :)
[20:54] <Dimitree> Someone help please :[ ! I have installed ATI drivers from the rep, they are selected in the restricted and are enabled but WoW can't start, i have installed Opera but it doesn't start ??? wtf is going on >___>
[20:54] <toresn> i've added two more workspaces to my system (from two to four), but there weren't added options for keyboard shortcuts on these... is it supposed or do i have to do some extra config for this?
[20:54] <Dimitree> how can i repair or reinstall ubuntu  ?
[20:54] <toresn> +to
[20:54] <hwilde> shaun, if you type in "man hald"  it tells you how to kill it and start it in verbose mode and in the debugger
[20:55] <Photo1> So, no help on ubuntu forums, anyone know how to remove accel and increase sensitivity?
[20:55] <Photo1> Cursor feels like it has gravity... :)
[20:55] <CyaNox> Hello people ... My XFS mount fails to work. Its a raid volume of about 3TB ... creation of it worked just fine and just after creation I could access it fine. But after a reboot it failed with an error: I/O error in filesystem ("sdb1") meta-data dev sdb1 block 0x15aeae4ff       ("xfs_read_buf") error 5 buf count 512
[20:55] <tripps> Dimitree: did you follow our instructions to recover your xorg original config?
[20:55] <Dimitree> i have installed Skype also but now it doesnt start too
[20:55] <CyaNox> After that error it complains about not being able to find a correct superblock.
[20:55] <Dimitree> tripps,  yes o-o
[20:56] <dep> CyaNox: if it is a raid volume, you're going to want to refer to it by its raid device name, usually ends up being something like '/dev/md1'
[20:56] <Dimitree> tripps, it configured keyboard imput monitor and so on and so on
[20:56] <loquitus_of_borg> where is smbmount coming from? I don't have it on my system and I want to mount some windows shares. I have Edgy
[20:56] <gleaken> I just updated a quad core core2duo 32-bit kernel to the latest fiesty-update kernel and now I am experiencing freezing of the UI and applications, This only happened since my update last night.
[20:56] <CyaNox> dep: The raid volume is managed by the raid card not the os.
[20:56] <Dimitree>  i can't belive i got myself in so much trouble from simply installing an ATI driver
[20:57] <Kernel> hello all. i have a bunch of folders spread throughout my computer.....im wondering if there is anyway i can consolidate them into one folder. now i know i can symlink the files from one folder into another folder...but im lazy and forgetful so im kinda looking for a automated way to achieve something like this
[20:57] <shaun> hwilde, ah i found the problem!
[20:57] <shaun> hwilde, local server is listening at unix:abstract=/var/run/hald/dbus-adsasfdasfd
[20:57] <dep> CyaNox: which card?
[20:57] <CyaNox> dep: Areca 1260
[20:57] <shaun> hwilde, dbus_bus_get(): Faiiled to connect to socket /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[20:58] <tripps> now i need to figure out where my desktop went
[20:58] <genezitux> hola
[20:58] <TDJACR|away> What commands can I use to basically uninstall gnome(and components) and use it like it was installed in server only
[20:58] <CyaNox> dep: the ext3 partition of 20GB works perfectly BTW ... which is a different volume but managed by the same card on the same raid set.
[20:58] <tripps> i still can't access it for whatever reason
[20:58] <TDJACR|away> What commands can I use to basically uninstall gnome(and components) and use it like it was installed in server only
[20:58] <erUSUL> !es | genezitux
[20:58] <ubotu> genezitux: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:58] <genezitux> alguien de mexico
[20:58] <shaun> hwilde, i had to manually install dbus-1, but for some reason system_bus_socket is in /var/run/dbus/ and does not appear in /usr/local/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[20:58] <shaun> is there a way to fix this?
[20:59] <hwilde> shaun, so u saw this by running the debug mode?
[20:59] <Dimitree> why on the Ubuntu CD there are only EXE files >___> how can i run the install app inside ubuntu with mounted ubuntu image file ?
[20:59] <shaun> hwilde, yeah, hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes
[20:59] <`Matir> Anyone know if a mksquashfs 2.3 filesystem will work with an older (2.2) version of the kernel module?
[20:59] <littlepinkdot> Would it be too much to ask someone for a how-to on setting up OpenVPN in tunnel mode with redirect-gateway? I cant get it working and I cant find any documentation on (I've been trying for well over 5 months to do this).
[20:59] <dep> CyaNox: give me a second, looking up a few things =)
[20:59] <Zamboli>
[21:00] <xenthro> Q: how do i access phpmyadmin from the browser? I tried localhost/phpmyadmin that did not work
[21:00] <erUSUL> Dimitree: which install app?
[21:00] <NiceEmil> sal cine stie sa instaleze live cd mandrake?
[21:00] <tripps> Dimitree: do you see the apps in the task bar?
[21:00] <shaun> hwilde, maybe there is some compile time option to make that system_bus_socket file
[21:00] <Dimitree> erUSUL, i want to reinstall ubuntu from an iso image on my hdd o-o i mounted the image but i find only start.exe ????
[21:01] <Dimitree> tripps, yes and they are present in folder on the hdd
[21:01] <TDJACR|away> What commands can I use to basically uninstall gnome(and components) and use it like it was installed in server only
[21:01] <b4d_> hi, I have a little problem with my ipod nano, on my PC it works out of the box with gnome+amarok, but my laptop with fluxbox+amarok makes me dumb :) amarok can't mount ipod because of permissions and if i mount it manually, i cannot change the ownership of /mnt/ipod/*
[21:01] <blackmouse> if i have gentoo with  grub, can i install ubuntu on the same hard drive? and do i need ot reinstall grub?
[21:01] <tripps> well then they're probably just not visible - try right clicking app on task bar and choose move and move the mouse to somewhere on the desktop or choose maximize and see if you see it then
[21:01] <Willyboy666> so ubuntu doesnt support my wacom penable tablet pc????? sadley but its true.
[21:01] <erUSUL> Dimitree: boot with the livecd and reinstall you can not "reinstall" the way you are trying
[21:02] <Zamboli> i want to disable some wlan modules, how?
[21:02] <Dimitree> oh noes :[ i dont have CD lol
[21:02] <Dimitree> i mean CDrom
[21:02] <Zamboli> i want to be rid of them but it says they're in use
[21:02] <hwilde> shaun, man page is your friend
[21:02] <Dimitree> f :/
[21:02] <CyaNox> dep: If you need more info just say so.
[21:03] <shaun> is there a way to search all manpages for a specific string?
[21:03] <Dimitree> can someone enter my PC and fix it :D:D:D:D xxixixixix
[21:04] <XceII>   I just put a new mobo in, the only problem i have is muting sound, is there a way I can fix this?
[21:04] <erUSUL> !install | Dimitree
[21:04] <ubotu> Dimitree: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[21:04] <neverblue> Dimitree, what are you attepting to do, I missed your question
[21:04] <Some_Person> latest flash is best! FINALLY native GNOME
[21:04] <erUSUL> Dimitree: Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[21:04] <Dimitree> i want to reinstall ubuntu from inside ubuntu from a mounted iso file
[21:04] <neverblue> Dimitree, on the same partition of the ISO ?
[21:05] <Dimitree> yes
[21:05] <hwilde> shaun,  man -k
[21:05] <neverblue> Dimitree, not possible
[21:05] <Dimitree> f**k :D
[21:05] <hwilde> !language
[21:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:05] <zil2> how do I close a app that is taking up full screen and not letting anything else work? I dont want to do control alt backspace as I am running something I need
[21:05] <Dimitree> sorry :D
[21:05]  * zoom is away: traduc LHU 76
[21:06] <sp> zil2: a solution would be switching to a text terminal and killing the app from there
[21:06] <mpetersen> start-stop-daemon is writing my pid file to a place that is totally wrong, with no rhyme or reason that I can think of.  strace doesn't even show it opening the pid file that gets written.... can anyone help?
[21:06] <Dimitree> neverblue is there a way to return the system to system defaults ?
[21:06] <Invisible_Ubunti> anyone able to help me setup this NFS real quick I have the package installed and I have my /etc/exports showing "/home/ubuntu/Downloads"
[21:06] <neverblue> Dimitree, yes, reinstallation
[21:06] <pepperjack> zil2: alt-ctrl-f2 for example then pkill appname  alt-f7 to get back
[21:06] <Dimitree> lol :)
[21:06] <Dimitree> ok thank you guys
[21:06] <zil2> how do I find app name?
[21:06] <mpetersen> Invisible_Ubunti: What's the issue?  /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start ?
[21:07] <shaun> hmm
[21:07] <shaun> i found nothing
[21:07] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know why I would go into low-quality mode after editing xorg.conf?
[21:07] <shaun> nothing for system_bus in all man pages
[21:07] <pepperjack> Dimitree: you mean just gnome defaults?
[21:07] <Invisible_Ubunti> but on the other machine when I type "sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/ubuntu /home/me/mount/ it says Permission denied
[21:07] <zil2> pepperjack: how do I find the name of the app?
[21:07] <pepperjack> zil2: ps -A
[21:07] <Invisible_Ubunti> mpetersen, getting permission denied
[21:07] <Dimitree> pepperjack, yes o-o duno im using it for 3 days lol
[21:07] <zil2> pepperjack: thanks
[21:07] <NiceEmil> how to instal mandrake cd live?
[21:07] <sp> zil2: don't you know which app is it that's causing the trouble?
[21:07] <neverblue> NiceEmil, this is an Ubuntu channel
[21:08] <mpetersen> Invisible_Ubunti: sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/ubuntu/Downloads /home/me/mount ?
[21:08] <Invisible_Ubunti> mpetersen, this is from /etc/exports /home/me/Downloads *(rw,sync)
[21:08] <pepperjack> Dimitree: if its the gui and taskbar and stuff like that rm -fr ~/.g* will delete all your config files. youll lose any shortcuts etc you created just logoff and backin after doing that
[21:08] <xenthro>  Q: how do i start phpmyadmin
[21:08] <magick> this is odd.. I tried to change volume using the system tray but if i increase it, instead of going up in percentage it does this: 75% mute 78% mute 81% etc.
[21:08] <mpetersen> Invisible_Ubunti: sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/me/Downloads /home/me/mount ?
[21:08] <zil2> ahh, its still not closing the app... nothing is responding but the mouse is still moving
[21:08] <zil2> is there anything I can do?
[21:08] <Invisible_Ubunti> mpetersen, ahh didn't know the 1st one had to be what mount point on the other machine
[21:08] <mpetersen> yeah... that's the idea ;)
[21:09] <Dimitree> pepperjack, will this remove xorg.conf files and so on ?
[21:09] <sp> zil2: as I said, switch to a text terminal (ctrl+alt+f1 for example) and kill it from there
[21:09] <tripps> Dimitree: reinstallation is not necessary i'm sure . . . take a break and relax and come back to it with some more patience :)
[21:09] <shaun> any ideas?
[21:09] <pepperjack> Dimitree: no just your profile stuff like in windows stuff under documents and settings for example
[21:09] <sp> zil2: if kill doesn't work force it to exit using kill -9
[21:09] <mpetersen> anyone help with start-stop-daemon writing the wrong pidfile?  any ideas?
[21:09] <zil2> sp: its not going, it is just frozen.... mouse is moving, but thats all
[21:09] <pepperjack> Dimitree: horrible example on my part btw
[21:09] <Dimitree> ok i will try to revers the things ive don in that incredible ATI driver installation guide
[21:10] <Invisible_Ubunti> mpetersen, thanks and sorry been so long since I used linux stopped in around 2004
[21:10] <tripps> Dimitree: there is an uninstall script with the ati install
[21:10] <mpetersen> np...  easy enough to help with :D
[21:10] <ukkeman> after ubuntu shutdown and a day later new boot. i get grub error 17 cannot mound selected volume. now under the live session i can mount that volume with the same uuid. i tried sudo fsck UUID=ID and nothing failed on that...  windows boots normal. directories seems to be ok on that mount. and i have no clue where that error comes from!! any ideas?
[21:10] <xenthro> !info phpmyadmin
[21:10] <ubotu> phpmyadmin (source: phpmyadmin): Administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.10.3-1ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 2711 kB, installed size 9744 kB
[21:10] <gleaken> I updated my Feisty to the latest kernel last night.  I am now getting intermittent hangs in the system, specifically in the UI.  Are there any others with this problem?
[21:10] <ukkeman> oh btw. grub/menu.lst points to the right uuid there has nothing changed
[21:11] <Invisible_Ubunti> mpetersen, darn was hoping to get these files transfered over before this old laptop overheated and froze lol
[21:11] <mpetersen> so, no ideas why start-stop-daemon would write to /var/run/file.pid when I specify --pidfile /var/run/director/file.pid ?
[21:11] <Dimitree> tripps i did uninstall them :) then the rep drivers were active and i uninstalled them too then i reinstaleld the drivers fromthe rep whitch which before everything worked fine but now i am able to change my resolution and the driver is active but i get no 3d acceleration lol
[21:11] <Dimitree> tripps, also all the apps i installed Opera Skype don't start and they are not uninstalled
[21:12] <Dimitree> *with
[21:12] <goppp_> what part of the xorg.conf do I add this
[21:12] <goppp_> Screen 0 "Main"
[21:12] <goppp_> Screen 1 "Secondary" LeftOf "Main
[21:12] <gleaken> right now, firefox has frozen
[21:12] <pepperjack> Dimitree: perhaps a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  <-- disclaimer is i have never done this
[21:12] <goppp_> I am confused
[21:12] <saif> hello
[21:12] <gleaken> it will come back in a bit, but this isn't right
[21:12] <rsfriends> how can i install tar.gz ?
[21:12] <jjgalvez> doing dkpg --configure cupsys give this error  status half-configured cupsys 1.3.2-1ubuntu7.5
[21:12] <goppp_> Screen 2 "TV" relative "Main" 0 2000
[21:12] <blackmouse> what do i do with  grub if  i am adding ubuntu to a disk that already had gentoo on it wiht grub installed for that distro?
[21:12] <merln> i dont think my onboard soundcard is configured properly sound comes out of the computers speak and through the jack but i have no control over the audio coming from the jack...could you point me in the right direction?
[21:12] <neverblue> goppp_, why are you editting it manually, what can do you have?
[21:12] <burn_> hi guys, i just installed Ubuntu7.10, when i want to add shared folders, it keeps asking me to install nfs and smb but it doesnt install, just keeps popping up
[21:12] <pepperjack> !tar.gz | rsfriends
[21:12] <ubotu> rsfriends: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[21:12] <Dimitree> pepperjack, ok trying that one now
[21:13] <rsfriends> yes tar.gz
[21:13] <gleaken> I try to change applications to Firefox and it freezes
[21:13] <saif> i am trying to login to the ubuntu forums and it's not working! :S i click the login button, it says thank for logging in, and then it redirects me to the main page and i am not logged in!
[21:13] <Schiz0> rsfriends: a tar.gz file is just a archive (like zip or rar)
[21:13] <neverblue> goppp_, its in the 'Section "ServerLayout"'
[21:14] <Schiz0> it's not something you can install. Extract the archive and then read the readme file that is most likely in it
[21:14] <rsfriends> ok, but ther is a program in that tar.gz
[21:14] <pepperjack> rsfriends: tar xfvz filename.tar.gz or use the graphical tool. you then need to read the included readme or install file for instructions as it varies.  however check to make sure it isnt available in the repo already you rarely need a tar.gz
[21:14] <jjgalvez> where does the cupsys configuration files live?
[21:14] <rsfriends> ok thx all
[21:14] <rsfriends> did found it now
[21:15] <shaun> hwilde, ok i think i figured out what to do, i had to compile dbus-1 with --with-system-socket=/path/to/old/system_bus_socket
[21:15] <goppp_> neverblue,  this is what I did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55024/
[21:15] <shaun> and --with-system-pid-file=/path/to/old/pid
[21:15] <goppp_> I am trying to get neverblue  dualmonitor support
[21:16] <burn_> can anyone please help me? I can't install the SMB and NFS for shared folders...when I hit install it just pops back up...doesn't start downloading.
[21:16] <neverblue> goppp_, and you have which video card?
[21:16] <white_eagle> tell me a good download manager for ubuntu
[21:16] <white_eagle> ...
[21:16] <razordead> part
[21:16] <Some_Person> wget?
[21:16] <UbuntuNoobx1k> can sumone help me im getting this error. Cannot install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly'
[21:16] <Stevethepirate> y0. long time no see...
[21:16] <UbuntuNoobx1k> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[21:16] <UbuntuNoobx1k> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict. im trying to see a video on the player
[21:16] <gleaken> is there someone here who is using the -updates kernel?
[21:17] <neverblue> goppp_, i see, well I posted a reply before, scroll up
[21:17] <Stevethepirate> Um, is there a script that one can run to check if my hardware is ubuntu gutsy compatible???
[21:17] <ab3> hoi
[21:17] <ab3> I have installen ubuntu desktop, but I want to put ubuntu server on my machine. Whitch stept do I have to take to switch between from  destkop to server
[21:17] <goppp_> neverblue,  it should show my two video cards
[21:17] <Stevethepirate> I have a new Dell laptop.. wanna know if it'll all work :P
[21:17] <saif> any1?? ubuntu-forums is not letting me login!! what should i do!??
[21:17] <jjgalvez> does anyone have any insight into why cupsys is broken? and can't be reinstalled?
[21:17] <goppp_> neverblue,  yes that what I did I followed your instuction
[21:17] <Invisible_Ubunti> if I'm not using any bluetooth/wireless I can safely remove all BlueTooth packages and Cups if I won't ever print from this machine right?
[21:17] <goppp_> but I don't get dual monitor
[21:17] <neverblue> goppp_, then there you go
[21:17] <gleaken> Stevethepirate: download the livecd and run it, see what works, what doesn't
[21:18] <neverblue> goppp_, please keep your posts to one line, thanks!
[21:18] <Talash_> hi all
[21:18] <Stevethepirate> gleaken: : yeah, i would do that..
[21:18] <dgjones> Stevethepirate, just boot up with the livecd, that'll give you a good idea whether it'll work
[21:18] <Stevethepirate> but
[21:18] <UbuntuNoobx1k> Cannot install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly'
[21:18] <UbuntuNoobx1k> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[21:18] <Stevethepirate> I lack the live CD
[21:18] <neverblue> goppp_, did you restart X ?
[21:18] <Talash_> I have a question regarding pipelining and substring search
[21:18] <Stevethepirate> i'm in a bandwidth deprived country.
[21:18] <UbuntuNoobx1k> can sumone help me please
[21:18] <Schiz0> Invisible_Ubunti: Yes. However the ubuntu-desktop virtual package (it's a fake package that depends on all stuff for a desktop) depends on those things. So you'll have to remove that desktop virtual package too
[21:18] <Stevethepirate> So, i'll only get ubuntu if it'll work :(
[21:18] <Flannel> Stevethepirate: what do you have then?
[21:18] <Talash_> basically I have a newly generated sources.list file, copy-pasted form somewhere on the web
[21:18] <Invisible_Ubunti> Schiz0, what does the desktop virtual package do?
[21:18] <gleaken> Stevethepirate:  That would give you an idea.  mostly, other than ATI or nVidia cards and broadcom wifi cards, you should be fairly ok, what is the computer?
[21:19] <Stevethepirate> Flannel: like. I -can- get the CD.. but I don't want to waste 700 megs of cap
[21:19] <Flannel> Stevethepirate: Google is your best bet then.  See if anyone out there has your computer working with Ubuntu
[21:19] <goppp_>  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics  and VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]  are my cards neverblue .
[21:19] <white_eagle_> download manager with a GUI
[21:19] <dgjones> Stevethepirate, you could always ask for a copy to be sent via shipit, it might take a couple of weeks, but it'd save you downloading a copy
[21:19] <Talash_> that file contains a lot of lines going like "NOTE: sudo gpg --keyserver blah blah blah" etc
[21:19] <TryingOutLinux> I think my ubuntu is broken! I can't get anything except what camew with it to work!
[21:19] <Flannel> Stevethepirate: see also, shipit.ubuntu.com, they'll send you one
[21:19] <Schiz0> Invisible_Ubunti: Nothing. It depends on all the desktop packages though (gnome, xserver, etc). So instead of installing all them manually, you can just install the desktop package and it does it all automatically
[21:19] <Schiz0> it doesn't add any feature or anything, it's a "virtual package" or whatever it's called
[21:19] <Stevethepirate> No, if I want to install it, i'll do it like soonish, varsity starting and all.
[21:20] <Talash_> erm, sorry: "NOTE: wget blah blah |sudo apt-key add -"
[21:20] <Stevethepirate> Let me just check what hardware the lappie has in it.
[21:20] <gleaken> Is there anyone here I can talk to about the problems with the current kernel?
[21:20] <Talash_> basically what I want to do is batch process those lines, take out the urls and redirect them to wget
[21:20] <Flannel> !anyone | gleaken
[21:20] <ubotu> gleaken: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:20] <ab3> How can I get from ubuntu desktop to ubuntu server
[21:20] <Flannel> ab3: What part of the server do you want?
[21:20] <TryingOutLinux> I think my ubuntu is broken! I can't get anything except what camew with it to work!
[21:21] <MarcC> my laptop HD keeps spinning down, how do I stop it from doing that?
[21:21] <gleaken> I am getting application hangs with the latest fiesty-updates kernel
[21:21] <jjgalvez> can anyone help me track a problem with dpkq configuring cupsys?
[21:21] <DRebellion> ab3: there is no difference between 'desktop' and 'server', apart from the packages supplied on the disk.
[21:21] <Flare183> Flannel: you know that everyone get me and you confused
[21:21] <Talash_> what I tried to use is "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep NOTE: | cut -c[from-to] | wget -i -"
[21:21] <Flare183> gets*
[21:21] <Flannel> Flare183: yeah, it happens, I'm used to it.
[21:21] <dgjones> !hcl | Stevethepirate, you could check this to see if other people have installed on the same make laptop
[21:21] <ubotu> Stevethepirate, you could check this to see if other people have installed on the same make laptop: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:21] <gleaken> this is something that didn't happen before with the last kernel revision
[21:21] <Talash_> it doesn't work because there are spaces after the urls
[21:21] <Flare183> Flannel: ok just checking no hard feelings
[21:21] <Dimitree> pepperjack, i reach a screen with " Please choose the font face you would like to use on Linux console." there is a OK at the bottom but i can't activate it with Enter or clicking on it ?
[21:21] <pam__> i just intstalled xchat. i have no idea where i am
[21:21] <goalieca> best way to remove network manager applet?
[21:22] <gleaken> firefox will hang and not respond, thunderbird stopped downloading mail in the middle and then resumed after a period of freezing
[21:22] <Talash_> maybe there's a way to make a substring search which'll take out just the urls?
[21:22] <Flannel> Flare183: no, of course not
[21:22] <Flare183> Flannel: kk
[21:22] <gleaken> beryl even greyed out the window to indicate it was locked
[21:22] <Flannel> Talash_: there are many ways.  Check out regular expressions.
[21:22] <TryingOutLinux> I think my brand new ubuntu is broken! I can't get anything except what camew with it to work!
[21:22] <goppp_> neverblue,  I tryed the gui, screen and graphic to get dual monitor in 7.10 but it only allowed one card at a time
[21:23] <Flannel> TryingOutLinux: you'll need to be more specific than that, "doesn't work" doesn't tell us a whole lot.
[21:23] <Talash_> yeah. I am not sure about the way I should write that expression
[21:23] <Talash_> can anyone be more specific?
[21:23] <_1> hi
[21:23] <TryingOutLinux> Flannel: nothing will run
[21:23] <_1> hi
[21:23] <_1> ?
[21:23] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: so no errors or anything?
[21:23] <Flannel> Talash_: There are some pre-fab URL matching regexps, google around for them.  Theyre easy to find.  Thats the easiest way
[21:23] <TryingOutLinux> nothing will run
[21:24] <gleaken> Flannel: any idea, I can back out the kernel, but I don't want to, if there is a problem, I would like to help track it down, dmesg isn't being helpful either
[21:24] <Flannel> TryingOutLinux: What have you tried to run? and what does it do instead?
[21:24] <E_Data> how hard is it to dual boot ubuntu and xp with ubuntu being installed first?
[21:24] <Schiz0> TryingOutLinux: Does it boot?
[21:24] <ethaqer> sup all i got one Q
[21:24] <MrRoland> hey, need some help. cannot see youtube videos, I install flash plugin with that non free thing, each time I click a video says to install agaian and then says is already instaleld but not working\
[21:24] <Flannel> gleaken: #ubuntu-bugs might be a good place, launchpad (the website) as well
[21:24] <xenthro> I'm having trouble starting drupal5... i get a ton of mysql errors http://pastebin.com/m19e4814c can anybody tell me what is wrong?
[21:24] <TryingOutLinux> i tried all my regular stuff, photoshop, some games, quicktime, itunes, all wont run
[21:24] <Schiz0> MrRoland: YOu need the official flash plugin to use youtube...iirc the other stuff doesn't work
[21:24] <gleaken> Flannel:  I will try ubuntu-bugs then, thanks
[21:24] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: Windows programs do not run in linux.
[21:24] <mohbana_> hey guys how do i install real player on amd64 gusty?
[21:25] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: Natively at least. You can run wine to see if it will work.
[21:25] <Stevethepirate> It's a T7700 2.4ghz core 2 duo, 3 gigs ddr-667, 200 gig harddrive, broadcom 440x 10/100 Intergrated controller, Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 AGN, Dell Truemobile 355 Bluetooth, Sigmatel Hi-def audio, and a 8600m GT
[21:25] <Flannel> TryingOutLinux: Linux is not windows.  That's your problem.  Check out wine, that will allow some stuff to work (and an increasing amount of stuff, at that)
[21:25] <Bethesda> Tryingoutlinux: But Gutsy has a build in handler for your Ipod...?
[21:25] <MrRoland> Schiz0 I simply click slash player when Im asked by mozilla, I select the one witrh the ubuntu icon on right ... I mean SHOULD work
[21:25] <merln> i dont think my onboard soundcard is configured properly sound comes out of the computers speak and through the jack but i have no control over the audio coming from the jack...could you point me in the right direction?
[21:25] <DRebellion> !borkenflash | MrRoland
[21:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about borkenflash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:25] <Dimitree> lol  :) the OK was active after i pressed Tab
[21:25] <jjgalvez> help with installed cupsys please
[21:26] <DRebellion> !brokenflash | MrRoland
[21:26] <ubotu> MrRoland: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If that is the case for your mirror, please wait a couple of hours.
[21:26] <AaronMT> Hi quick question, when I select "Use largest continous free space" that is referencing a partition that is unallocated free space in windows, correct?
[21:26] <TryingOutLinux> wait, so nothing you buy in a store will work on linux?!?!  I set the raid in Bios, but tubuntu still views it as two hard drives.
[21:26] <xenthro> TryingOutLinux, instead of PS, try "gimp" or "krita" instead of itunes try "amarok", instead of quicktime, try vlc or mplayer with the w32 codecs
[21:26] <neverblue> goppp_, not sure what that means, but you certainly wont edit your xorg.conf manually and get it working correctly all in one night
[21:26] <MrRoland> ubotu can you tell me an confirmed mirror?
[21:26] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: Yes, because everything for Linux (at least most things) are free.
[21:26] <goppp_> neverblue,  is there a ubuntu gui tool to do this
[21:26] <amigamia> hi is seveas still associated with ubuntu?
[21:27] <TryingOutLinux> so who shells out the money for ubuntu to make the software?
[21:27] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: the community makes the software!
[21:27] <goppp_> neverblue,  going to reboot X
[21:27] <amigamia> the man who owns TWARTE
[21:27] <Schiz0> TryingOutLinux: People volenteer.
[21:27] <neverblue> goppp_, there are many tools to edit xorg.conf, for ATI, i have no idea what they might be
[21:27] <goppp_> bbl
[21:27] <amigamia> the guy who paid all that money to go to space
[21:27] <Bethesda> Tryingoutlinux: Linux is NOT Windows.
[21:27] <amigamia> a south african
[21:27] <E_Data> TryingOutLinux should have probably wiki'd ubuntu or linux in general before installing it...
[21:27] <Starnestommy> amigamia: yes
[21:27] <amigamia> ;)
[21:27] <TryingOutLinux> from what i've seen, nothing is ever free
[21:28] <Stevethepirate> Flannel: It's a T7700 2.4ghz core 2 duo, 3 gigs ddr-667, 200 gig harddrive, broadcom 440x 10/100 Intergrated controller, Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 AGN, Dell Truemobile 355 Bluetooth, Sigmatel Hi-def audio, and a 8600m GT
[21:28] <amigamia> there is big strong money behind ubuntu :D
[21:28] <Bethesda> And btw, I can run Oblivion, Morrowin, HF2, World of Worcraft good...so -.-
[21:28] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: it is on Linux
[21:28] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: that's because youve seen windows
[21:28] <mpetersen> start-stop-daemon writing pidfile to wrong spot, anyone help?
[21:28] <ethaqer> hello guys ..do you think copiz gonna owrk on [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] ?
[21:28] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: you'll find a bunch of pre-installed software already on your computer. Just run it.
[21:28] <noodlesgc> my friend just got a job working for microsoft
[21:28] <ethaqer> compiz*
[21:28] <xenthro> TryingOutLinux, there are so many linux distros that the answers are, corporate, community, government, individuals... the answer is all of the above... its the fact that you have a choice that is the defining characteristic of linux
[21:28] <Schiz0> TryingOutLinux: One again, linux is not windows. Linux is open source, meaning it's free.
[21:28] <{Nathan}> noodlesgc: I feel sorry for your friend then.
[21:28] <noodlesgc> me too
[21:28] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: ubuntu isn't just free as in price. it's free as in you can do whatever you want with the source code (the authors do not restrict your rights)
[21:28] <TryingOutLinux> i only have linux because i bought a computer with it
[21:29] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux from dell?
[21:29] <TryingOutLinux> dell
[21:29] <Schiz0> TryingOutLinux: Well if you don't want it, you can buy a copy of windows and install it on your computer.
[21:29] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux what model?
[21:29] <Stevethepirate> amigamia: mark shuttleworth.
[21:29] <Seveas> amigamia, hi
[21:29] <Blue_> Stevethepirare: What model dell you running? I have ubuntu running great on a Vostro 1500 and a Inspiron 6000
[21:29] <Stevethepirate> Inspiron 1720
[21:29] <danand> TryingOutLinux - thats because your used to the Microsoft way. People like Richard Stallman and all the people at GNU and the FSF have worked for many years to bring us to the point where we have a free (as in freedom & price) OS
[21:29] <Stevethepirate> South African market.
[21:29] <ubuntu> heya guys how can i reinstall Grub ?
[21:29] <linuxprobie> Noone can help me with the raid?
[21:29] <magick> Anyone know of a project that is looking to get the intel 4965 wireless drivers working?
[21:30] <ubuntu> on /dev/sda
[21:30] <MrRoland> question: which is faster? KDE or GNOME ?
[21:30] <sp> TryingOutLinux: GNU/Linux is free as in freedom (and you cannot do "whatever you want" with the code, but pretty much) - see http://gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html for information :)
[21:30] <esperegu> Hi! I need to specify --rsync-path on the client to point to the remote rsync to be able to use it. Anybody knows how I can set this on the server so I don't need to specify that anymore?
[21:30] <TryingOutLinux> i have an inspiron 530n
[21:30] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux  and are you having problems?
[21:30] <Stevethepirate> magick: I have the 4965 wireless drivers
[21:30] <xenthro> MrRoland, i heard that kde4 is supposed to be extremely fast
[21:30] <Blue_> Stevethepirate: The only issues I had were with my HD sound card but I fixed it by installing ALSA
[21:30] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: ok, so what software do you need?
[21:30] <Stevethepirate> Blue_: : hmm
[21:30] <Stevethepirate> so, you rate i download it
[21:30] <Stevethepirate> give it a bash?
[21:31] <TryingOutLinux> wait, so the developers who worked so hard to make this software let others modify it and release it on their own?!
[21:31] <DRebellion> !enter | Stevethepirate
[21:31] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:31] <magick> Stevethepirate, did it autodetect?
[21:31] <Blue_> Stevethepirate: Everything else worked right out of the "box"
[21:31] <Stevethepirate> DRebellion: yeah, soz.
[21:31] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: yes. that is the point :)
[21:31] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux yes
[21:31] <tripps> ok now that i've been successful in getting aiglx to work, i've reverted everything back to vesa drivers, etc., to figure out what happened to my desktop. i still cannot access it. it is configured correctly in gconf-editor. any ideas?
[21:31] <browniehead> i dont think anyone is monitoring that channel
[21:31] <Stevethepirate> magick: haven't tried.. about to install ubuntu.
[21:31] <Stevethepirate> i'll see if you want?
[21:31] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: You need to realize this... I have not paid for any softwaree in 3 years.
[21:31] <Stevethepirate> will take me 5 mins to download ISO though.
[21:31] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: as long as the people who modify it and release it allow others to do the same.
[21:31] <TryingOutLinux> 3 years?!?!?!
[21:31] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: Linux is free in all ways possible.
[21:31] <magick> Stevethepirate, yep, just PM me the results
[21:31] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux i havent paid in two.
[21:32] <MrRoland> xenthro is kde4 available on ubuntu ?
[21:32] <{Nathan}> MrRoland: yes, it is
[21:32] <Seveas> TryingOutLinux, and it's all legal :)\
[21:32] <xenthro> TryingOutLinux, of course, you think professional, non-community tech support is free? if you must follow a money trail, consider that anybody that makes $$$ off linux is usually a software consultant
[21:32] <E_Data> how hard is it to dual boot ubuntu and xp with ubuntu being installed first?
[21:32]  * MrRoland remembers kde being a BETA
[21:32] <danand> TryingOutLinux - I haven't paid in about 6 or 7 years!
[21:32] <Blue_> Stevethepirate: If I were you and can just download the ISO of the LiveCD burn it and boot off the CD and just play with it and see what works and what doesn't and not install it unless you think its something you want
[21:32] <Bethesda> Basicly, if you have Cedega / Wine for your games ( + some common sense ) you do not need to pay for any software ever again.
[21:32] <{Nathan}> E_Data: not very... but you will  need to reinstall  grub
[21:32] <TryingOutLinux> are you sure its all free?
[21:32] <MrRoland> kde4 i mean
[21:32] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: YES
[21:32] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux yes!
[21:32] <TryingOutLinux> someone must be making money off of it
[21:32] <xenthro> MrRoland, I don't believe so... but i think it was planned for kubuntu 8.04
[21:32] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: YES!
[21:33] <E_Data> how {Nathan}?
[21:33] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux I myself am developing an open source project. phalkyn.sf.net
[21:33] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: companies make money off it by selling corporate support (eg 24/7 phoneline etc)
[21:33] <magick> TryingOutLinux, would you rather have some guy at a large company who hates his job (or is doing it for $ only) write software for you or someone who volunteers their time and creates software for the challenge?
[21:33] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: No, they are not. It's a very awesome community, and that's why I've been using Ubuntu.
[21:33] <{Nathan}> E_Data: Hmm... Ubuntu probably has a way to do it... lemme check
[21:33] <Blue_> TryingOutLinux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29
[21:33] <TryingOutLinux> i would rather have volunteers
[21:33] <danand> TryingOutLinux - check out www.gnu.org www.fsf.org. Yes people do make money from GNU/Linux - mostly from support to businesses etc
[21:33] <{Nathan}> TryingOutLinux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[21:33] <dimedo> hi there, since a few hour i have a problem: df tells me, that my / partition uses 100% of the disk space, even after i deleted about 1 GB of data from it. I deleted the data as root user mostly by rm command and some packets via aptitude. there is nothing left in the trash and df still shows 100%. the partition is ext3 on a luks encrypted device. any ideas?
[21:34] <DRebellion> NOTICE - Guys, can we get back on topic. Continue the FOSS discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please...
[21:34] <{Nathan}> err, sorry. that link was for E_Data
[21:34] <E_Data> k
[21:34] <Stevethepirate> Blue_: yeah, i would do that.. but if i'd rather have a good indication of whether it'll work or not
[21:34] <MrRoland> one more question: can I install ubuntu with software raid ? got that default intel matrix controller. can I? if not, I have to configure software raid ?
[21:34] <Stevethepirate> since i do not have a huge cap
[21:34] <tripps> TryingOutLinux: we can pretend this is company tech support: "Sir, do you have your computer plugged in the wall?"
[21:34] <esperegu> Hi! I need to specify --rsync-path on the client to point to the remote rsync to be able to use it. Anybody knows how I can set this on the server so I don't need to specify that anymore?
[21:35] <Blue_> Stevethepirate: Well like I said I've had very little problems with it... the biggest thing for me is just learning a new OS
[21:35] <TryingOutLinux> so i could, for example, take ubuntu, remove all software except whats needed to boot the system, and rename and release it as my own and no one in the world could sue me?
[21:35]  * ronny1 cries because his xfi card is not supported
[21:35] <jjgalvez> no matter what I try Cupsys will just not install properly! this is so very frustrating
[21:35] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: yep, as long as you provide the source code.
[21:35] <Schiz0> TryingOutLinux: Yep.
[21:35] <tripps> TryingOutLinux: that wouldn't be ubuntu of course . . . . ;)
[21:35] <pepperjack> TryingOutLinux: correct. this happens often these days
[21:35] <white_eagle_> DRebellion, yeees
[21:35] <blackmouse> does teh ubuntu installatino disc allow  you to not install grub, but to use an existing grub installation?
[21:35] <white_eagle_> :)
[21:35] <Zamboli> I'm trying to run a Madwifi script that removes wlan_scan_sta and wlan modules, but i get an error that says they're in use. how do i disable them?
[21:35] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux  yep you sure could. you could even just change the artwork and release it
[21:35] <tripps> TryingOutLinux: all you need is a kernel, possibly initrd and a shell
[21:35] <Daviey> TryingOutLinux: ubuntu is just that, from Debian
[21:36] <Schiz0> TryingOutLinux: In fact, Ubuntu is actually based on Debian linux (which is a completely separate distribution of linux)
[21:36] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: nah, you don't need a shell ;) init will just sleep
[21:36] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, linux is free as in free speech
[21:36] <white_eagle_> understand?
[21:36] <TryingOutLinux> ok now the debate, do i keep ubuntu or throw windows on here. what do you think?
[21:36] <Stevethepirate> Blue_: i've used linux before :P
[21:36] <danand> TryingOutLinux - Debian GNU/Linux
[21:36] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, you can dual-boot
[21:36] <Schiz0> TryingOutLinux: You're asking this question in a linux channel. Of course we're going to tell you to keep linux.
[21:36] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: at least give linux a chance. you'll come to love it.
[21:36] <Stevethepirate> Anyone here used 'ultimate boot cd'?
[21:36] <Schiz0> Go ask in #Windows too :-P
[21:36]  * Bsims whines and wishes someone would add truecrypt to the repositories as my mirror is faster than the official site
[21:36] <soup4you2> keep ubuntu and virtualize windows :)
[21:36] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, even multi-boot
[21:36] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux BTW linux is immune to viruses/worms/spyware
[21:36] <schlicht> i got a problem with truecrypt (4.3 and the new 5) whenever i try to copy a big folder (1gb+) on my ntfs truecrypt container , at some point my hol system crash, programms freeze and i only can restart with powerswitch. im using ubuntu 7.10. any ideas?
[21:36] <schasi> Can you have two libc6 installed at the same time?
[21:37] <TryingOutLinux> i am considering keeping linux at least for now, unless there is something major i cant do
[21:37] <Blue_> Stevethepirate: Well then you're probably better of then me, but so far I have installed ubuntu on 5 different machines 2 of them Dells and all has been great!
[21:37] <noodlesgc> schasi thats suicide
[21:37] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, linux is completely free and 95% of the software for it is also free
[21:37] <schasi> noodlesgc: I thought so...
[21:37] <tripps> TryingOutLinux: you can also use vmware to run windows if necessary, or use wine (I use this to run IE to access some neanderthal websites)
[21:37] <white_eagle_> as Linux is
[21:37] <Bethesda> Shasi, please DO NOT do that1
[21:37] <Bsims> schlicht: what does it say if anything in /var/log/messages?
[21:37] <danand> !gnu > danand
[21:37] <Stevethepirate> I need a ntfs resizer, my old copy of Hirens boot disc borked out.
[21:37] <TryingOutLinux> even I know better than to use IE
[21:37] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, try wine, for runing windows apps on linux
[21:37] <Stevethepirate> TryingOutLinux: lol
[21:37] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux  there is nothing linux cant do
[21:37] <TryingOutLinux> wine?
[21:37] <schasi> So if you are on feisty and want a package needing libc6 2.6, you cannot do anything?
[21:37] <danand> !gnu
[21:37] <ubotu> G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[21:37] <white_eagle_> !wine
[21:37] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:37] <Blue_> Stevethepirate: Gparted in on the LiveCD
[21:38] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: don't try wine first. try native linux programs first.
[21:38] <TryingOutLinux> why would drinking wine help me?
[21:38] <tripps> TryingOutLinux: you can do anything - you can do much more than you can possibly imagine, quite frankly
[21:38] <white_eagle_> :)
[21:38] <Stevethepirate> Blue_: is it stable?
[21:38] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux,
[21:38] <white_eagle_> wine | TryingOutLinux
[21:38] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux wine is a program that can emulate windows
[21:38] <Bethesda> Wine is awesome. Do you guys know Oblivion? I can run it fine.
[21:38] <Bsims> schasi: try compiling it yourwelf is about it
[21:38] <TryingOutLinux> oh
[21:38] <TryingOutLinux> do all programs work on this wine thingy?
[21:38] <MrRoland> can I install ubuntu with software raid ? got that default intel matrix controller. can I? if not, I have to configure software raid ?
[21:38] <Stevethepirate> Bethesda: i've got portal working fine as well.
[21:38] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, do you have an nvidia card?
[21:38] <Blue_> Stevethepirate: you're better off to you the real Gparted liveCD over the ubuntu
[21:38] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: no, it is BETA
[21:38] <schlicht> Bsims,  gimme a minute
[21:38] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux  90%
[21:38] <tripps> TryingOutLinux: wine is the bottles you drink while you use windows. . . . j/k
[21:38] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, no, not all
[21:38] <white_eagle_> its beta
[21:38] <Bethesda> Not all ofcourse, but most yes.
[21:38] <TryingOutLinux> i have whatever came with this dell
[21:38] <Stevethepirate> okay
[21:39] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, don't you know your graphics card?
[21:39] <MrRoland> and noodlesgc if you say linux is imune to spyware/viruses and so means that you haven't met remote shell trojan yet
[21:39] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: you can install new software using   system -> adminstration -> synaptic package manager
[21:39] <TryingOutLinux> whatever came with this machine. why do you ask
[21:39] <Stevethepirate> Sigh.. i'm only getting 4megabytes a sec downloading this ISO
[21:39] <Manco> someone please help me error 22
[21:39] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, or you can with applications/add/remove
[21:39] <Manco> someone please help me error 22
[21:39] <white_eagle_> search for whatever you need
[21:39] <Bethesda> Rofl steve. What are you on =P
[21:39] <white_eagle_> tick a box
[21:39] <white_eagle_> and apply changes ;)
[21:39] <DRebellion> Stevethepirate: :O i get 230 KB/sec max!
[21:39] <white_eagle_> its so simple
[21:39] <TryingOutLinux> oh, so all programs in Add/Remove are totally free like linux?
[21:39] <noodlesgc> Manco where do you see error 22?
[21:39] <danand> TryingOutLinux - You will find most apps you use on windows have (mostly) better equivalents in Ubuntu or GNU/linux systems in general
[21:39] <Stevethepirate> Bethesda: theres a local mirror here.. I just realized it.
[21:39] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, yes
[21:40] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux yes
[21:40] <Manco> in my boot
[21:40] <Manco> i have xp too
[21:40] <DRebellion> TryingOutLinux: don't use add/remove (it is way inferior to syaptic)
[21:40] <noodlesgc> Manco when loading grub?
[21:40] <white_eagle_> DRebellion, he's a newb
[21:40] <Manco> yes
[21:40] <TryingOutLinux> what is syaptic?
[21:40] <Stevethepirate> its the package manager
[21:40] <Stevethepirate> !synaptic > TryingOutLinux
[21:40] <white_eagle_> its a package manager
[21:40] <Blue_> Stevethepirate: I use this Gparted LiveCD all the time for my stuff- http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
[21:40] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux  just use add/remove its more friendly with beginners
[21:40] <Stevethepirate> Blue_: ta
[21:40] <TryingOutLinux> ok
[21:40] <Bsims> well its a frontend to the package manager
[21:40] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, please, test ubuntu for atleast 30 days
[21:41] <Manco> my brother put some visruse in xp and they shut down the xp an my grub wont start
[21:41] <TryingOutLinux> i can do that
[21:41] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, if you like it
[21:41] <Bethesda> So do any of you guys can help me with my keyboard problem? =)
[21:41] <white_eagle_> keep it
[21:41] <Stevethepirate> Manco: thats semi impossible.
[21:41] <Bsims> Bethesda: what is it doing
[21:41] <schlicht> Bsims, is there anyway to see when i reboot?
[21:41] <Manco> yea i know
[21:41] <TryingOutLinux> a few concerns though i have
[21:41] <Manco> but how can i fix it
[21:41] <white_eagle_> ..say it TryingOutLinux
[21:41] <Bethesda> Well I got a G11, but Ubuntu does not regonize the extra buttons.
[21:41] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux  what concerns
[21:41] <danand> TryingOutLinux - You should really call what most people call linux gnu/linux. linux is just the kernel of the OS, the majority of the rest of the system was written by the people at GNU - see www.gnu.org
[21:41] <Bsims> schlicht: sudo less /var/log/messages and scroll to the bottom
[21:41] <Bethesda> G11 = about 15 extra buttons.
[21:41] <TryingOutLinux> 1. what can i use instead of windows movie maker?
[21:41] <Zamboli> I'm trying to run a Madwifi script that removes wlan_scan_sta and wlan modules, but i get an error that says they're in use. how do i disable them? anyone? anyone?
[21:41] <tripps> TryingOutLinux: need a photoshop like graphics program? "sudo apt-get install gimp" done! need an autocad clone? sudo apt-get install qcad" need a desktop publishing program? sudo apt-get install scribus. and so on
[21:41] <white_eagle_> !kino
[21:41] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux avidemux
[21:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:41] <Stevethepirate> Bethesda: MX518 ftw
[21:42] <white_eagle_> !info kino | TryingOutLinux
[21:42] <ubotu> tryingoutlinux: kino (source: kino): Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 1.1.0-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 4251 kB, installed size 9272 kB
[21:42] <TryingOutLinux> i already found gimp
[21:42] <Bethesda> What is that Steve ?
[21:42] <Stevethepirate> Bethesda: Another mous
[21:42] <Stevethepirate> *mouse
[21:42] <Bethesda> Well . ok :P
[21:42] <Stevethepirate> wait
[21:42] <schlicht> Bsims,  yeah but my crash were a a 5 pm
[21:42] <TryingOutLinux> ok, what about Nero?
[21:42] <Stevethepirate> g11 = keyboard?
[21:42] <Bethesda> Yes Steve =)
[21:42] <Stevethepirate> TryingOutLinux: you get NeroLinux
[21:42] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, you will find everything you need with add/remove
[21:42] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux k3b and gnome-baker
[21:42] <Stevethepirate> Bethesda: soz, its late :(
[21:42] <DRebellion> !burner | TryingOutLinux
[21:42] <ubotu> TryingOutLinux: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[21:42] <Bethesda> I don't have 15 extra buttons on a mouse Steve :P
[21:42] <schasi> There seems to be no backport to feisty of xrandr...
[21:43] <Bethesda> Dont worry steve xDF
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> Bethesda: I have 8
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> ;p
[21:43] <Bethesda> darn, 8? 0o
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> wait a sec
[21:43] <edju> Using the driver from NVidia.  In "Restricted Drivers", should nvidia be enabled?
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> yeah, 8
[21:43] <TryingOutLinux> do these support DVD-VR?
[21:43] <MasterAslan> is there a way to remove all packages so I am down to the basic command line system so I can build on top of that with out having to reinstall?
[21:43] <puff> I have my virtual desktop stuff set to 3x2, but can't get it ot change desktops.
[21:43] <white_eagle_> TryingOutLinux, there is a nerolinux
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> logitech mx518
[21:43] <Bethesda> Edju, yes.
[21:43] <Bethesda> Lemem look that up
[21:43] <white_eagle_> 25$ i think
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> white_eagle_: its trial though
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> yeah
[21:43] <white_eagle_> yes
[21:43] <jjgalvez> can anyone help me install cupsys?
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> nerolinux is lank fast though
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> for dvd's
[21:43] <Stevethepirate> compared to k3b
[21:43] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux  what is DVD-VR?
[21:44] <schlicht> Bsims, hmm i will let it crash again,...i shall be back xD
[21:44] <white_eagle_> yes thats why its 25$ ;) Stevethepirate
[21:44] <TryingOutLinux> its a dvd format
[21:44] <TryingOutLinux> my dvd recorder uses it
[21:44] <Stevethepirate> white_eagle_: some of the best and fasted stuff i've ever seen has been free
[21:44] <MrRoland> so once again, personal opinion, which is faster? kde or gnome? :P
[21:44] <Schiz0> MrRoland: fluxbox
[21:44] <TryingOutLinux> just got kino, it looks good
[21:44] <Stevethepirate> there was an excellent article on that..
[21:44] <ubuser> hi .. is there a program which rips dvds in avi?
[21:44] <white_eagle_> MrRoland, gnome
[21:44] <danand> noodlesgc - dvd discs specially for video
[21:44] <puff> When i try to click on the task bar virtual desktop stuff, nothing happens.  When I try to drag a terminal off theside of the screen, nothing happens.  When I do ctrl-alt-right-arrow, nothing happens.  what setting could be doing this??
[21:44] <Stevethepirate> in terms of memory and CPU usage
[21:44] <Bethesda> Gnome, and it looks better too.
[21:44] <Bsims> ubuser: k9copy
[21:44] <white_eagle_> KDE is krappy
[21:44] <Stevethepirate> with > 256 meg of ram, KDE was better memorywise
[21:45] <white_eagle_> for me
[21:45]  * MrRoland 4 more mins to get that iso
[21:45] <ubuser> Bsims: does it run under gnome?
[21:45] <MrRoland> so nobody knows if I can use that onboard raid controller?
[21:45] <puff> Ah, odd, okay, must be something in compiz.
[21:45] <Bsims> yeah it does
[21:45] <ubuser> tnx
[21:45] <Bsims> it might pull the libs ubuser but it works
[21:45] <puff> When I reset visual effects to "normal" it started working right.
[21:45] <Stevethepirate> ubuser: you need a ripper, akin to winavi for windows.
[21:45] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux im pretty sure that k3b burns dvd-vr
[21:45] <Stevethepirate> Never done it in *nix
[21:45] <Bsims> ubuser: its not like windows vs mac...
[21:45] <Manco> some understanding , grub boot loader
[21:46] <TryingOutLinux> noodlescg: Google tells me otherwise
[21:46] <noodlesgc> TryingOutLinux let me check
[21:46] <Bsims> Stevethepirate: k9copy, acidrip, dvdrip all do it
[21:46] <puff> The xterm "transparent background" effect doesn't seem to work the same as it used to.  If I change the desktop wallpaper, the xterm doesn't change to match.
[21:46] <Stevethepirate> Bsims: ah.
[21:46] <TryingOutLinux> ok
[21:46] <Stevethepirate> Yeah, dvdrip is lank slow though
[21:47] <Bsims> Stevethepirate: or you can get techy and just write the commands
[21:47] <Stevethepirate> Haven't tried acidrip
[21:47] <Manco> Can someone help me i am having problems loading grub
[21:47] <Stevethepirate> Yeah
[21:47] <Stevethepirate> :P
[21:47] <Bsims> I use k9copy a lot
[21:47] <Manco> error 22
[21:47] <Schiz0> puff: I don't think it's truly transparent. I think it just takes a snapshot of the background when the window is moved or opened
[21:47] <puff> Ah, okay, that'swhat it is...
[21:47] <Bethesda> 22? It can't find one of the devices then
[21:47] <jpatrick> Bsims: hmm, I uploaded a new version of that once..
[21:47] <Manco> any fix
[21:47] <Bethesda> Manco, are you sure all drives are correctly connected?
[21:48] <Manco> yes
[21:48] <Manco> it was working
[21:48] <puff> Schiz0: Yeah, what happened is that it became "truly" transparent, which is distracting as hell, since it shows all five layers of xterms and apps I have open :-(
[21:48] <Manco> till today
[21:48] <Bethesda> Did you use an external HDD manco ?
[21:48] <puff> Schiz0: So somewhere in messing around I ended up selecting "background image" in the xterm prefs instead of transparent.
[21:48] <Bsims> Manco: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/55749-grub-error-22-a.html
[21:48] <jjgalvez> cupsys won't install can anyone help me?  I've posted the error messsge here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54961/
[21:48] <Manco> no i dont have
[21:49] <edju> having trouble with X.  Using the NVidia driver - from Nvidia - should "nvidia" be in /etc/modules?
[21:49] <Zamboli> what do i use to disable wireless?
[21:49] <Manco> my bro got some xp viruses on other xp os , and halt the system since that happen i cant load my ubuntu
[21:50] <Manco> erorr 22
[21:50] <{Nathan}> Zamboli: why do you need it disabled?
[21:50] <Schiz0> Manco: try reinstalling grub or something
[21:50] <Schiz0> do that grub_install thing
[21:50] <Manco> can you tell me how
[21:50] <Schiz0> Google can. I don't use Ubuntu.
[21:50] <Schiz0> maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub
[21:51] <Manco> or show me inet page so i can read
[21:51] <FireHazrd> !compiz
[21:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:51] <Blue_> Manco: Check here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688834
[21:51] <alex-weej> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_h_Windows_Sharing_the_Desktop
[21:51] <puff> Is the transparency effect a general gnome/xwindows effect?  I'd like my x emacs window to be transparent as well.
[21:51] <alex-weej> ;)
[21:51] <Blue_> Manco: Wrong link, check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:51] <DRebellion> Zamboli: sudo ifdown <wireless-interface>
[21:51] <jjgalvez> prletoac
[21:52] <Manco> ok thank you very very much
[21:52] <jjgalvez> opps sorry the cursor was in thw rong window
[21:52] <DRebellion> Zamboli: replace <wireless-interface> with the alias of the device (eg eth0, eth1 etc)
[21:52] <Manco> greatnings from Macedonia
[21:52] <puff> And is there any compiz effect that gives me something like the spinning cube when I do alt-ab?
[21:52] <puff> alt-tab, thatis.
[21:52] <middayc> can I ask something: I am trying to install ubuntu and have booted to the live CD but it stops doing anything after it writes "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)    [OK]"
[21:53] <middayc> if I do altctrl delete it starts shutting down so it isn't blocked but I doesn't move further either
[21:53] <FireHazrd> middayc, just let it sit and see what happens
[21:53] <middayc> :) ok , for how long
[21:54] <middayc>  .. would you wait
[21:54] <FireHazrd> try leaving it for 15-20 mins... sounds long but maybe the computers slow or something
[21:54] <middayc> ok
[21:54] <FireHazrd> ive had that happen on a pentium 4....
[21:54] <TryingOutLinux> been reading up on linux, sounds interesting
[21:54] <toresn> i have some external drives that appears as icons on the desktop... how to i remove these icons?
[21:54] <FireHazrd> every boot takes long but once its into ubuntu it works fine
[21:55] <MissPenguin> how can i be in two channels at once?
[21:55] <gyaresu> Something is spanking my HDD. Anyone know of a 'top'-like programme for seeing what it is?
[21:55] <schlicht> is Bsims off?
[21:55] <middayc> FireHazrd: aha ... thanks a lot
[21:55] <paule118> rrrrrrrrrr
[21:55] <paule118> obnonoonoon
[21:55] <paule118> n
[21:55] <paule118> on
[21:56] <paule118> on no no onon
[21:56] <Zamboli> DRebellion: i'm trying to run a madwifi script that removes some modules, but i get an error that tells me two wlan modules are in use
[21:56] <jpatrick> !enter > paule118
[21:56] <jpatrick> !de > paule118
[21:56] <FireHazrd> I wish gimp was as good awesome photoshop...
[21:56] <gyaresu> Zamboli: you may need to manually remove them yourself.
[21:56] <Zamboli> rm?
[21:56] <Zamboli> ok
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jpatrick: I think he got kicked yesterday for the same thing
[21:56] <Invisible_Ubunti> Zamboli, let me guess auth_pci right?
[21:57] <gyaresu> Zamboli: modprobe -r blah (and then see what is depending on them, then possibly remove those)
[21:57] <toresn> nm
[21:57] <gyaresu> Zamboli: No. Not rm.
[21:57] <gyaresu> Zamboli: modprobe just removes the kernel modules from interacting with the actual kernel.
[21:57] <goppp_> !multihead
[21:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multihead - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <Stevethepirate> !multithread
[21:58] <Stevethepirate> ?
[21:58] <gyaresu> Where are all the supergeeks this morning...
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multithread - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <FireHazrd> does vmware work on ubuntu?
[21:58] <gyaresu> goppp_: twinview
[21:58] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > goppp_
[21:58] <gyaresu> FireHazrd: Yes.
[21:58] <jpatrick> !life > gyaresu
[21:58] <DRebellion> FireHazrd: yes
[21:58] <FireHazrd> i cant seem to find any good documentation on vmware for ubuntu
[21:58] <Stevethepirate> FireHazrd: yes
[21:58] <goppp_> gyaresu,  does that work with ati
[21:58] <Stevethepirate> [it seemed a fashionable thing to say]
[21:58] <FireHazrd> I want to ditch xp for good
[21:58] <Stevethepirate> lol
[21:58] <DRebellion> !vmware > FireHazrd (read the pm from ubotu)
[21:58] <Stevethepirate> and games?
[21:59] <TryingOutLinux> one other concern, can Kino (or another program) capture from a USB camcorder? It uses USB like a camcorder uses firewire, where the PC can make it play, rewind, etc.
[21:59] <gyaresu> goppp_: Sorry, I refuse to install ati. Nvidia I can help you with.
[21:59] <k5ehx> FireHazrd: congrats
[21:59] <Zamboli> gyaresu: then what shall i use?
[21:59] <Zamboli> sorry <-total newb
[21:59] <FireHazrd> !vmware
[21:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[21:59] <pepperjack> FireHazrd: usually you just need to run the vmware installer or use the package.
[21:59] <jpatrick> FireHazrd: please read the pms in future
[22:00] <kieren_> FireHazrd, don't be in a rush to ditch XP, it will take a while to get used to Linux and it's always good to have something familiar to fall back on
[22:00] <goppp_> !xrandr
[22:00] <pepperjack> id avoid player though
[22:00] <kieren_> Go for a dual boot
[22:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrandr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:00] <FireHazrd> pepperjack, what do you suggest?
[22:01] <gyaresu> Zamboli: I get the feeling you're trying to install some wifi drivers manually? If the script is _actually_ what you need to do and it's failing on the 'rmmod' (lower command than modprobe) then manually removing them like i suggested 'first', then running the script might help.
[22:01] <pepperjack> FireHazrd: vmware-server
[22:01] <FireHazrd> pepperjack, do i have to pay for it?
[22:01] <Stevethepirate> kieren_: "fail" back onto :P
[22:01] <Dimitree> is it possible to star a live CD from ubuntu ? or if i want to try Fedora ?
[22:01] <pepperjack> FireHazrd: player is fine you just need to do the easyvmx stuff.. no server is free
[22:01] <kieren_> :)
[22:01] <FireHazrd> pepperjack, thats awesome, im gonna try it soon as i get home
[22:02] <pepperjack> yeah there are a ton of virtualization options
[22:02]  * k5ehx runs XP under virtualbox in ubuntu, works well enough
[22:03] <pepperjack> k5ehx: virtualbox now supports hardware accel i hear
[22:03] <gyaresu> Something is spanking my HDD. Anyone know of a 'top'-like programme for seeing what it is?
[22:03] <Jouva> Is there any way to implement alternative methods of logging into gdm, such as fingerprint, flash drive or smartcard? Flash drive would probably be my optimal choice for lack of needing additional hardware (I don't need the gdm login to be that secure since it's just my desktop)
[22:03] <k5ehx> pepperjack: nice, although I have no use for that
[22:03] <epifanio> hi can you suggest me a package to make a live-cd (installable) lime remastersys
[22:03] <epifanio> but that works on ubuntu ppc
[22:03] <pepperjack> Jouva: you can look at standard options by gksu gdmsetup but im not familiar with using those
[22:04] <k5ehx> Jouva: probably, not sure how GDM integrates with options in pam
[22:04] <hwilde> I am seeing false/phantom power button pressed messages when plugging in a USB device.  Has anybody heard of this or any links?
[22:04] <pepperjack> Jouva: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17571.html <-- seems interesting
[22:04] <gyaresu> Jouva: Bluetooth. When your paired bt device comes back in range it logs on and starts cranking tunes... I have done this.
[22:04] <FireHazrd> k5ehx, pepperjack: ever tried playing games in a virtualization of xp on ubuntu
[22:04] <cheeseboy> anyone thats forum staff here?
[22:04] <k5ehx> FireHazrd: no
[22:05] <Invisible_Ubunti> Jouva, it can be done for USB Jump drive because Slackware allows it if your bios does
[22:05] <Jack_Sparrow> FireHazrd: Doesnt work well enough to do that.. for me anyhow
[22:05] <pepperjack> FireHazrd: this will not work well on vmware. virtualbox's newer builds support harware accel i hear but for windows games using wine is the standard so you dont need virtualization
[22:06] <Jouva> gyaresu; Interesting idea, but I can't get my bluetooth device to see other devices. I can get the bluetooth dongle itsself recognized by the Gutsy though, but it just refuses to even see anything else
[22:06] <FireHazrd> pepperjack, i tried wine with 7.04 but couldnt get steam working
[22:06] <ks> is there any way to get control of the screen if startup program locked it up ?
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> FireHazrd: I keep a windows partition , (no internet access) just for games
[22:06] <pepperjack> FireHazrd: id check it again. often youll find one build of wine works and one doesnt.. the newer builds seem pretty impressive though
[22:07] <k5ehx> ks: maybe kill the program locking the screen?
[22:07] <lakcaj> ks, you can drop to a commandline with ctrl-alt-f1 and get back with ctrl-alt-f7.
[22:07] <ks> i've written a startup script that starts python program, but it outputs debug messages to console
[22:07] <lakcaj> ks, you can also reboot the xserver with ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:07] <FireHazrd> thanks guys, catch you around later
[22:07] <ks> lemme try
[22:07] <paule118> [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> paule118: May I pm you
[22:08] <Jouva> pepperjack, that's a VERY interesting link. Thank you.
[22:08] <ks> thanks ctrl alt f1 worked :)
[22:08] <paule118> [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[22:08] <epifanio> can you suggest-me what i need,  unluky i can't resolve remastersys's dependancies
[22:09] <Jouva> pepperjack, Oh sweet, libpam-usb is in the package list. This should be even easier now.
[22:09] <epifanio> i tried UCK too, but it need "gfxboot" and it isn't on the repository :-(
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[22:10] <FloodBot1> paule118: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:10] <DRebellion> !ops | paule118
[22:10] <ubotu> paule118: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[22:11] <^Elfboy> checking for gcc... no
[22:11] <^Elfboy> checking for cc... no
[22:11] <^Elfboy> checking for cc... no
[22:11] <^Elfboy> checking for cl... no
[22:11] <^Elfboy> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[22:11] <FloodBot1> ^Elfboy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <^Elfboy> ops
[22:11] <gub> heh
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[22:11] <Starnestommy> ^Elfboy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:11] <nalioth> ^Elfboy: please use a pastebin in the future
[22:11] <paule118>  administrador has quit (Client Quit)
[22:11] <^Elfboy> ok sorry i did know
[22:12] <cheeseboy> someone kick paule118
[22:12] <hwilde> Is there anything else that could initiate /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh ?
[22:12] <ubuser> is there a program to conver .vob in .avi?
[22:12] <nalioth> ubuser: handbrake
[22:12] <reZo> is there a way with wget to only show the progress bar, or a int percentage of how the progress is going for the download?
[22:13] <nalioth> reZo: have you run "man wget" ?
[22:13] <reZo> yes,
[22:13] <ccb_> test me
[22:13] <reZo> didn't tell me much
[22:13] <pepperjack> reZo: rather it tells you alot but nothing even vaugely coherant :)
[22:14] <reZo> pepperjack: thats the wroding
[22:14] <schlicht> does anyone have an idea why truecrypt crash(and my system/all programms freeze) when i try to copy a big folder on my ntfs truecrpyt container?
[22:14] <reZo> wording *
[22:14] <breakz> hello, Ive got a question about installing ubuntu 7.10 desktop, tried with an alter cd, but it didnt work, after Ive booted the installation, the screen just turns black, just after the slash loading screen,
[22:15] <breakz> got a amd 64 but installing i386 tho
[22:15] <ubuser> nalioth: where can i find handbrake?
[22:15] <k5ehx> isn't handbrake a windows app?
[22:15] <User1234> Can anyone help? The problem seems to be when i start up ubuntu then hit enter at the install or run option it comes up with a loading Kernel box and stays at 3%? Is this suppose to stay there for awhile and im impatient or is there something wrong?
[22:15] <reZo> never mind actually, i'll just change the output via the source
[22:15] <k5ehx> ubuser: you want to convert .vob into .avi or vice versa?
[22:15] <epifanio> so, anybody have a clue about what sw can i use on ppc to make a live-cd :-(
[22:16] <ubuser> k5ehx: vob in avi
[22:16] <nalioth> http://handbrake.fr/  ubuser
[22:16] <k5ehx> ubuser: avidemux is good, I think mplayer can do it too
[22:16] <^Elfboy> www.pastebin.ca/894378
[22:16] <Gizmo_The_Great> how can I determine the directory from which an application is running? I have found the process using 'ps -A' - I just want to determine what directory it is in
[22:16] <User1234> Can anyone help? The problem seems to be when i start up ubuntu then hit enter at the install or run option it comes up with a loading Kernel box and stays at 3%? Is this suppose to stay there for awhile and im impatient or is there something wrong?
[22:17] <Rayni> Ciao, qualcuno può aiutarmi a configurare wine?
[22:17] <Starnestommy> ^Elfboy: you may need to install tcl8.4 and tcl8.4-dev
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !t > ray
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !t > Rayni
[22:18] <^Elfboy> ok
[22:18] <Rayni> si jack?
[22:18] <LukeLM> User1234, you should maybe use the 64bit version instead of the x86?
[22:18] <Ryuho> My tablet (motion computing M1400) hotkey does not show up on: showkey, acpid, or xev. I know it works (it works under default windows install) is there no way to use this key in ubuntu?
[22:19] <User1234> er..okay i'll try that thanks
[22:19] <noodlesgc> bye
[22:20] <k5ehx> Gizmo_The_Great: one of the options to ps shows that, IIRC
[22:21] <Gizmo_The_Great> k5ehx, cheers :-)
[22:21] <k5ehx> Gizmo_The_Great: seems like one or more "w"s does it
[22:21] <breakz> hello, Ive got a question about installing ubuntu 7.10 desktop, tried with an alter cd, but it didnt work, after Ive booted the installation, the screen just turns black, just after the slash loading screen, got a amd64 laptop, 2048 ram etc.. let me know if theres any other info I can give :)
[22:22] <breakz> tried aswell with kubuntu cd
[22:22] <Stevethepirate> breakz: can you -hear- the hdd spinning
[22:22] <Stevethepirate> like, when the screen is black
[22:22] <breakz> nah
[22:22] <breakz> cd shuts down aswell
[22:22] <Stevethepirate> what monitor is it plugged into?
[22:22] <Stevethepirate> like, does it support 1280x1024
[22:22] <B-rabbit> How do i change the "OVR" setting in gedit?
[22:23] <breakz> Ive tried to change the vga at the install cd, if thats what you mean Stevethepirate
[22:23] <dep> B-rabbit: insert
[22:23] <B-rabbit> dep, thnx
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> breakz: I would trh ctrl-alt F2  and see if you get a terminal cli
[22:24] <Ms-suse> what is the linux equivalent for active directory server?
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> breakz:  then        sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   select vesa mode 1024 to get a basic gui
[22:25] <Cusoon959> I installed mozilla-mplayer, but the plugins don't show up in Firefox, so I can't play any video.
[22:25] <goldenLINUX> need to know how to boot linux from my flash disk
[22:25] <breakz> o ok Jack_Sparrow, ll try
[22:25] <Cusoon959> Any suggestions?
[22:25] <goldenLINUX> if anyone can explain it to me in spanish pls pme me
[22:26] <filthpig> hmm
[22:26] <Starnestommy> goldenLINUX: try #ubuntu-es
[22:26] <strongarm> please where can I find ubuntu driver for my DWL-G122_revB usb wifi
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> goldenLINUX: pendrivelinux.com
[22:26] <neverblue> goldenLINUX, there is a spanish channel
[22:26] <goldenLINUX> wich one
[22:27] <Cusoon959> #ubunt-es
[22:27] <Starnestommy> #ubuntu-es
[22:27] <goldenLINUX> ok lemme check :)
[22:28] <Cusoon959> I installed mozilla-mplayer, but the plugins don't show up in Firefox, so I can't play any video.
[22:28] <Cusoon959> help?
[22:28] <Xbehave> pidgin wont store '/usr/bin/firefox3 %s' as my manual browser
[22:28] <bulio> I'm using Ubuntu server
[22:28] <bulio> and I'm trying to copy data on HD1 to HD2
[22:28] <blue|palm> is there any way to get flash to run on firefox 3-b3?
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: use the dd command
[22:28] <bulio> I'm using sudo cp /mnt/storage/ /home/backups
[22:29] <bulio> Jack_Sparrow: what will that do?
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> copy drives or partitions
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: let me see if I have a link for you
[22:29] <dep> bulio: if you want to copy all the files you're going to need to specify a recursive copy
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[22:30] <pepperjack> Cusoon959: so about:plugins does not show it?  you have killed and relaunched firefox?
[22:30] <bulio> dep: so sudo cp -R /mnt/blah /target?
[22:31] <Cusoon959> pepperjack: It doesn't show at all, and yes, I have
[22:31] <Cusoon959> pepperjack: Even rebooted
[22:31] <Jouva> pepperjack, Looks like the instructions there for pamusb are old cause the page mentions something different, but it seems to be simple as installing libpam-usb and pamusb-tools, running pamusb-config to add a device and a user and then putting in a short line in the pam's "common-login", but I'm about to test it. So wish me luck!
[22:31] <pepperjack> Cusoon959: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins is the path it should be in is it there?
[22:31] <dep> bulio: that would copy the files from one place to another, yep
[22:31] <bulio> thanks
[22:31] <pepperjack> Jouva: very cool
[22:32] <bulio> now what if I wanted to put that in crontab, to have a DIY raid setup
[22:32] <Cusoon959> pepperjack: Erm they're all there but I think they
[22:32] <Jouva> I'll let you know if it works.
[22:32] <bulio> is there an option so it only adds new files?
[22:32] <Cusoon959> pepperjack: Erm they're all there but I think they're broken symlinks
[22:32] <bulio> and not copy pre-existing data
[22:32] <Cusoon959> pepperjack: They show as red in the terminal
[22:32] <blue|palm> hi, ive just installed kate from kde 4, but the fonts are all messed up (aliased) is there any way i can correct this?
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> blue|palm: That would be better asked in Kubuntu
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> blue|palm: I think they even have a kde4 room
[22:34] <blue|palm> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[22:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:34] <mohbana_> has the flash plugin been fixed?
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> mohbana_: It is in the repos, -proposed  and soon backports.. If I remember right
[22:35] <w00w00> hi, is there someone here who can help me setup WLAN (W200 card) on my notebook & get the FN + F2 key to fix?
[22:35] <kebinusan> Hm, I cant seem to get grub and vista to play nice together, when grub tries to boot vista I get a 'BOOTMGR is missing' message, but if I boot with my vista cd and reinstall the vista boot loader vista boots fine, but of course I cant boot into linux
[22:36] <Ryuho> did anyone get a fingerprint scanner to work on ubuntu?
[22:36] <w00w00> kebinusan, setup bootscreen :P
[22:36] <LostCuase> Hello... I just bought the WoW Battlechest (2 DVD's and both the Mac and Windows installers), but all I can see is the Mac section of the DVD's. Any idea how I get to the windows section to run in Wine?
[22:36] <pepperjack> Cusoon959: ugh.. im not sure why those are broken.. are you in current version of ubuntu? you might as a workaround uninstall the package then grab  the plugin from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayerplug-in/ and compile and drop em in that dir. maybe just sudo apt-get remove --purge package or whatever then update and retry i dunno
[22:36] <w00w00> windows should have a file for that on C:\ & on linux, idk, search around
[22:37] <sansaro> hello any one here use Ubuntu on EEE PC ?
[22:37] <kebinusan> w00w00: bleh I trying to avoid using vista's boot loader
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Ryuho: I have seen them work as a regulr scanner, but not as a real fingerprint scanner/login thing.. I did see one person post that he found some info with google, but not definative
[22:37] <pepperjack> Cusoon959: avoid compiling the package if you can im sure there is a better solution
[22:37] <w00w00> kebinusan, play around with the settings, there should be a bootloader somewhere
[22:37] <pepperjack> Cusoon959: like just grabing the deb and unpacking it or something
[22:37] <Ryuho> thx Jack_Sparrow man i was hoping i could login like that
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> LostCuase:  Try asking in #Winehq
[22:37] <mohbana_> yeh i can confirm flash is working fr me
[22:37] <Cusoon959> pepperjack: I fixed it already. Purged the package with dpkg then reinstalled with aptitude
[22:38] <Cusoon959> It's fine now
[22:38] <kebinusan> w00w00: the problem is every time I play around, I either need to boot off my live CD and reinstall grub or boot off my vista CD and fix vista
[22:38] <kebinusan> It makes the whole process rather tedious
[22:38] <mohbana_> yeah
[22:38] <w00w00> hm, then idk, my recommendation, delete vista (ew, vista) :P
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> kebinusan: The best solution.. is to lose Vista...  I dual with XP just fine
[22:38] <ethaqer> hello all
[22:38] <neverblue> sansaro, still havent found a reason to bye myself one of those
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello
[22:39] <sansaro> great laptop
[22:39] <ethaqer> i can't rum compiz any one can help me to fix it?
[22:39] <w00w00> anyways, i seriously need some help, if there's someone, qry me: hi, is there someone here who can help me setup WLAN (W200 card) on my notebook & get the FN + F2 key to fix?
[22:39] <neverblue> sansaro, how large of a HD ?
[22:39] <a-i-t> g
[22:39] <a-i-t> gf
[22:39] <a-i-t> ddfg
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ethaqer: The best answers are in #Compiz, they are good at that stuff.  If you get stuck, come back
[22:39] <ethaqer> jack--thanks i didn't know they have a channel
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:40] <c1|freaky> !apt pinning
[22:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt pinning - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !pinning
[22:40] <c1|freaky> !pinning
[22:40] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[22:41] <peleg> Hey buddies. I have my wifi (eth1) connect, disconnect, and reconnect again and again all the time... I am surfing at the moment, and in any given MINUTE and connects and disconnects at least 5-10 times. I have a DELL inspiron 6400. Anyone heard about this problem before?
[22:41] <peleg> Would like to add: when it is "connected", it is 96-100% signal.
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> peleg: What chipset in the card?
[22:42] <ukkeman> hi, today suddenly i get a grub error 17 without doing anything. just shutoff ubuntu and restart it after a couple of hours. now i get the error. "cannot mount selected partition" .. he can find it, but cant determine the FS.. windows on the same hdd with grub is starting. manually fsck UUID=(with the uuid out of the /grub/menu.lst) didnt complain about anything. so what else could be wrong?
[22:42] <peleg> Would like to also add: This is only in the ubunutu - other computers on this network work fine.
[22:42] <peleg> Jack_Sparrow: do you mean which brand is the card?
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> peleg: It will be the driver, or how it was installed...
[22:43] <tts> can any one help me i cant get my sound to work
[22:43] <crowley1027> Hi, i'm having trouble installing Feisty.  When I try to unmount /media/6GB Free\040space, it says "can not unmount blablablabla, not found"
[22:43] <lolbears> Can anyone help me with cracking wpa through ubuntu 7.10
[22:43] <gyaresu> Something is spanking my HDD. Anyone know of a 'top'-like programme for seeing what it is?
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> peleg: Not just the brand of card, but the chipset in the card..  sometimes the same card model will have different chipset
[22:43] <peleg> Jack_Sparrow: it is intel PRO/wireless 3945 Network connection driver for linux. How can I check the chipset?
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> lolbears: No cracking allowed.. sorry
[22:43] <gyaresu> lolbears: You can't unless you do a dictionary attack. Can you hack WEP yet?
[22:43] <lolbears> well. none are wep
[22:44] <lolbears> all are wpa. im not worried about wep
[22:44]  * neverblue flashes Jack_Sparrow, 'how about this kinda crack?'
[22:44] <Jordan_U> crowley1027, How are you trying to unmount it, why does it need to be unmounted, and why are you installing feisty?
[22:44] <crowley1027> GParted "could not unmount /dev/hdc1 (italics) /media/6GB Free\040space: not found
[22:44] <crowley1027> Jordan_U: Winblows crapped out on me, so now i'm wiping the HDD and installing feisty because it's on m CD
[22:44] <w00w00> can anyone refer me to a channel to where they can help me setup WIFI & FN keys?
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> peleg: I am not a wireless type person, but start with a google on the card to try and get all the info you can then ask again in channel
[22:44] <crowley1027> Jordan_U: It needs to be unmounted because it won't let me go through with the installation
[22:44] <lolbears> gyaresu?
[22:45] <peleg> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thanks!
[22:45] <neverblue> w00w00, maybe #networking ?
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> peleg: lspci may be all you need
[22:45] <Jordan_U> crowley1027, What happens if you run "sudo umount /dev/hdc1" ?
[22:46] <epifanio> ragazzi  ...
[22:46] <epifanio> ho un altro problema da risolvere ...
[22:46] <gyaresu> lolbears: The short of it is that you can't (unless you could and then you'd know how hard it is). I know this cause it's kind of my thing.
[22:46] <Pici> !it
[22:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:46] <peleg> Jack_Sparrow: what is "lspci"?
[22:46] <epifanio> hoops
[22:46] <crowley1027> Jordan_U:
[22:46] <crowley1027> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/hdc1
[22:46] <crowley1027> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[22:46] <epifanio> sorry
[22:46] <lolbears> I know its very hard to do.
[22:46] <lolbears> but I'd still like to try some how
[22:46] <crowley1027> Jordan_U: refreshed device...and...
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> peleg: Type it in a cli terminal to get info on your devices.
[22:46] <epifanio> guys i've a problem to solve,
[22:46] <crowley1027> Okay thanks
[22:46] <epifanio> everytime i reboot
[22:47] <Pici> !enter | epifanio
[22:47] <ubotu> epifanio: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Jordan_U: Welcome back
[22:47] <crowley1027> Jordan_U: why could i do it in terminal, but not in GParted?
[22:47] <runemaste644> Does anyone know a good drag-and-drop type html editor?
[22:47] <BHSPitWork> I'm having a weird problem with nvidia and dual-monitors.  When I just have it set to use one monitor at 1280x1024, everything works as expected.  When I enable the second monitor (also at 1280x), both desktops become some huge resolution, and I get a panning "virtual" desktop.
[22:47] <c1|freaky> how can i prevent apt from trying to "upgrade" or "downgrade" a package which i manually installed?
[22:48] <epifanio> ok apologize me,   my problem : x don't start at login ; to strat gdm i need to press : ctrl+alt+f1 and do a login using the shall
[22:48] <BHSPitWork> There is absolutely no explanation that I can see.
[22:48] <nekostar> BHSPitWork try gksu nvidia-settings
[22:48] <gyaresu> lolbears: Start here: http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html
[22:48] <epifanio> then i start gdm using :  gdm start
[22:48] <Jordan_U> crowley1027, My guess is that there is a bug in Gparted when dealing with mount points that have a space or '\' in them ( they may need to be escaped )
[22:48] <Darkmystere> is there a way to start monitor mode without crippling wireless until you restart?
[22:50] <crowley1027> ok
[22:50] <Pici> Darkmystere: You shouldnt need to restart, just put the mode back to managed.
[22:50] <crowley1027> On a side note, anyone here ever had a seagate 320GB barracuda SATA Drive?
[22:50] <epifanio> have yoo any idea on what i need to start gdm at sturt-up ? i tried to reconfigure xorg but do not solve my problem
[22:50] <runemaste644> I look and look but I can't find anything good
[22:50] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/funny/how-to-escape-a-fart/ HAHA!!!!!
[22:50] <Kitar|st> lool
[22:50] <Pici> !offtopic | Kitar|st
[22:51] <ubotu> Kitar|st: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:51] <Darkmystere> Pici,I didnt know that how i put it back to managed?
[22:51] <Darkmystere> Pici, I also would like to be able to browse the web while im in monitor mode is that possible?
[22:51] <Pici> Darkmystere: How are you putting it into monitor mode?
[22:51] <Pici> Darkmystere: I don't believe so.
[22:51] <Darkmystere> sudo airmon-ng stop ath0
[22:51] <Darkmystere> sudo airmon-ng start wifi0
[22:52] <kbrooks> Why would it take a long time to loginto GNOME? i created a test user to see if the non-working user was actually the problem, it is fast to login as the test user
[22:52] <kbrooks> So it seems the non-working user is the problem. But why?
[22:52] <white_eagle> I can't update, it says I have too much uupdates, and suggests me to do a partial update
[22:52] <white_eagle> and I click on it
[22:52] <xenthro> Darkmystere, have you tried running the command "sudo iwconfig ath0 mode Monitor"
[22:52] <white_eagle> and the update window freezes
[22:52] <white_eagle> end.
[22:52] <Darkmystere> no
[22:53] <Pici> Darkmystere: I've never used airmon-ng, but kismet resets it back to managed mode after I'm done with it.
[22:53] <white_eagle> jt blacks out
[22:53] <white_eagle> it*
[22:53] <freexzai> Okay. When I start totem I get an error saying the video output is in use by another program. When I start a movie it works fine. When I use rythembox it says "Could not initialise Xv output" I have a feeling the two might be connected but I got no idea how to fix it.
[22:53] <xenthro> Darkmystere, "sudo iwconfig ath0 mode Monitor" or "Managed" to go back
[22:53] <Darkmystere> hmf...well i wanted to test my Wifi's wep but i dunno how to do it and i could never get kismet to work any guides you recommend and what should i download?
[22:53] <c1|freaky> how can i prevent apt from trying to "upgrade" or "downgrade" a package which i manually installed? i manually installed the ati driver and now everytime i run apt-get upgrade it tries to "upgrade" my manually installed drivers which first get generated as a .deb by the ati-installer.sh - i can't remember how to stop apt from trying that. can someone help me?
[22:54] <white_eagle> ...
[22:54] <Photo1> Lovely <3 q3 benchmark at 153fps @ 1600x1200 :)
[22:54] <astro76> !pinning | c1|freaky
[22:54] <ubotu> c1|freaky: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[22:54] <Photo1> Ubuntu rocks!
[22:54] <Darkmystere> i havent tried in around 3months because i couldnt figure out the madwifi thing now ive installed the newer pre-patched driver that also has support for atheros AR5007EG but i have Atheros AR5006EG
[22:55] <kbrooks> Why would it take a long time to loginto GNOME? i created a test user to see if the non-working user was actually the problem, it is fast to login as the test user
[22:55] <kbrooks> So it seems the non-working user is the problem. But why?
[22:55] <xenthro> Darkmystere, just get the "airsnort" package, and and set ath0 to monitor mode with iwconfig... open airsnort and hit start. presto.
[22:55]  * Photo1 snorts air regularly
[22:55] <gustavonarea> Hello, everyone. There must be some bad-ware somewhere, in the repos. MANY files of mine have been DELETED. I never install software outside of the default repositories. I'm not new to Linux. PLEASE, help me. I've even lost my emails in Kontact.
[22:55] <gustavonarea> The only new thing in my system is Gnomad, nothing else
[22:55] <gustavonarea> I was using it when this happened
[22:55] <Darkmystere> lol >.>
[22:56] <crowley1027> !recovery | gustavonarea
[22:56] <ubotu> gustavonarea: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[22:56] <zachalink> major issue since I booted up my PC today! the tasks on the taskbar don't show up... help!
[22:56] <crowley1027> xD
[22:56] <crowley1027> gustavonarea, do you speak spanish?
[22:56] <white_eagle> I can't update, it says I have too much uupdates, and suggests me to do a partial update
[22:56] <white_eagle> and I click on it
[22:56] <gustavonarea> ubotu: The system is not broken. It's working perfectly. It just turns out that many files were deleted
[22:56] <white_eagle> it blacks out
[22:56] <white_eagle> and freezes
[22:56] <Darkmystere> Pici,You sure i wont need any guides to do it?
[22:56] <white_eagle> I can't turn it off
[22:56] <white_eagle> and I really want my updates
[22:57] <Pici> !enter | white_eagle
[22:57] <ubotu> white_eagle: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:57] <gustavonarea> crowley1027: yes, why?
[22:57] <zachalink> zach needs help badly on getting tasks on taskbar to show up. >.<
[22:57] <DASPRiD> hellas, little problem: just installed apache2 with php5 on a fresh machine, restarted apache2 and downloaded phpmyadmin. but when i point the browser to the phpmyadmin dir, the browser tries to download the index file. nothing in the apache2 error log.
[22:57] <Pici> Darkmystere: guides?
[22:57] <halsteadj> I updated my kernel yesterday and when I rebooted "HAL" doesn't work.  I don't have the old kernel in my grub.  how can I fix this?
[22:58] <Darkmystere> Pici,Yea
[22:58] <Pici> Darkmystere: for what?
[22:58] <Darkmystere> Testing my wep ;)
[22:58] <zachalink> um... please?
[22:58] <Pici> Darkmystere: Nothing else I can think of.
[22:59] <Dr_willis> zachalink,  check  the forums yet - see if others have had a similer issue.
[22:59] <th0ger_ifa> On ibook(gutsy/ppc): "No candidate version found for icedtea-java7-bin". Are my sources misconfigured, or is it not availble for ppc?
[22:59] <Darkmystere> okie dokie..smokie what was that command again so i can make note of it
[23:00] <zachalink> I don't even recall doing any updates, it just started doing this today. =|
[23:00] <crowley1027> gustavonarea: estas hispano?
[23:00] <Dr_willis> zachalink,  also you could test with a new user - see if they have a similer issue. If they DONT then its a user setting thats causing some probklems.  Not sure how to reset the user settings under gnome however,
[23:00] <Pici> !es | crowley1027
[23:00] <ubotu> crowley1027: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:00] <crowley1027> Pici: hush for one sec.
[23:00] <crowley1027> gustavonarea: do you speak spanish as a first language?
[23:00] <Tyger> is there a desktop applet for weather?
[23:01] <white_eagle> I can't update, it says I have too much uupdates, and suggests me to do a partial update, I click on it, and the window freezes, I have to log off to turn it off
[23:01] <gustavonarea> crowley1027: yes, what does it have to do with my problem?
[23:01] <white_eagle> I have over 300 updates using gutsy
[23:01] <Dr_willis> white_eagle,  try updating from the terminal,  with sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[23:01] <crowley1027> gustavonarea: no its actually my problem :)
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> white_eagle: What all do you have in your sources list
[23:02] <crowley1027> gustavonarea: have you ever heard the word "desillusionado"?
[23:02] <MrObvious> How can I get Google Earth 2.2 in Ubuntu?
[23:02] <LostCuase> Jack: #WineHQ was no luck.
[23:02] <astro76> MrObvious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[23:02] <white_eagle> Jack Sparrow I have over 13 additional sources from which only 3 are selected
[23:03] <Tyger> is there a desktop applet for local weather?
[23:03] <Pici> Tyger: Yes.
[23:03] <white_eagle> Tyger, yes
[23:03] <white_eagle> !screenlets
[23:03] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[23:03] <obreiro>  /connect irc.irc-hispano.net
[23:03] <white_eagle> !gdesklets
[23:03] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/