[01:13] <schnoodles> Can you not sort pinned applications anymore ?
[03:29] <CoJaBo> ..so is there a reason sysrq is disabled by default? that seems kinda important..
[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:50] <batteronizer> Hi how are?
[07:50] <batteronizer> Which VNC server is recommended to use with KDE?
[08:03] <hateball> hmmm, I thought there used to be a builtin thing
[08:04] <hateball> !info krfb
[08:05] <hateball> batteronizer: this is the "KDE" way I think ^
[08:05] <batteronizer> Can it be configured without UI?
[08:06] <batteronizer> I tried searching, but only found UI methods for configuring it so far.
[08:06] <hateball> Well if you are running Kubuntu, you have a gui by default
[08:06] <batteronizer> It's an Ubuntu server
[08:07] <batteronizer> The only way I can configure anything before using is through a config file over a console.
[08:24] <lordievader> I usually go with x11vnc or tigervnc. (rarely do vnc these days)
[08:27] <hateball> Dear Plasmashell, stop freezing intermittently. Sincerely, me.
[08:27]  * hateball screams internally
[08:46] <batteronizer> hateball: I went offline. Arethere logs available for this IRC channel?
[08:46] <lordievader> batteronizer: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[08:46] <batteronizer> lordievader: Thanks
[09:09] <batteronizer> All logs not availableyet :-/
[09:10] <batteronizer> Does anyone else know if krfb can be configured without a GUI?
[10:05] <ForceRecon> Morning everyone
[10:05] <jubo2> G'morning ForceRecon
[10:10] <lordievader> o/
[10:11] <ForceRecon> is the sun up over where you guys are
[10:12] <jubo2> \o lordievader
[10:12] <lordievader> Hey jubo2
[10:12] <lordievader> ForceRecon: For a couple of hours already.
[10:16] <ForceRecon> what do you live in africa?
[10:17] <ForceRecon> ahh south america
[10:17] <ForceRecon> that's cool.. still dark here
[10:17] <ForceRecon> on 5:18am
[10:17] <ForceRecon> only*
[10:18] <lordievader> I don't live in Africa.
[10:18] <lordievader> Its 11:18 here.
[10:18] <ForceRecon> Position of the Sun
[10:18] <ForceRecon> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 10:16:00 UTC the Sun is at its zenith at Latitude: 16° 41' South, Longitude: 21° 57' East
[10:18] <ForceRecon> The ground speed is currently 444.41 meters/second
[10:18] <ForceRecon> that is fast..
[10:19] <lordievader> ForceRecon: maybe you want to move to #kubuntu-offtopic.
[10:19] <ForceRecon> oh.. I was not aware
[10:19] <ForceRecon> there was one
[10:19] <ForceRecon> will do
[10:23] <trevize> hello
[10:23] <trevize> I have the strangest problem perhaps someone could help me
[10:23] <trevize> I recently changed system region to  try to fix another error
[10:23] <trevize> then I reverted back to my original region
[10:24] <trevize> but now I have most of the widget texts messed up
[10:24] <trevize> window titles on task manager have letters missing
[10:24] <trevize> even clock has missing characters
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:40] <chomwitt> i have serious stability issues with a ralink wifi card in xenial.
[15:07] <aiena> I just installed kubnut 17.10 in a VM and I noticed that ifconfig is no longer available by default on the base system what is the reason for this is there a better alternative to list interfaces. Is only network manager available?
[15:07] <aiena> *kubuntu
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ifconfig hs been replaced by ip add, altho ifconfig coommand still works on bare metal
[15:10] <BluesKaj> dunno about vms
[15:11] <BluesKaj> 'scuse the spelling
[15:11] <BluesKaj> alewife,^
[15:11] <BluesKaj> aiena, ^
[15:12] <aiena> BluesKaj: thanks
[16:22] <aiena> BluesKaj: and what about ifup, ifdown?
[16:26] <lordievader> Those have not been replaced.
[16:26] <lordievader> aiena: ^
[16:28] <aiena> lordievader: Ok thank you
[19:43] <ajbone> Hello, I've used debian on my pc for years and have now decided to switch to ubuntu. All thats held me back is not wanting to part with KDE desktop. Is there an option of KDE in ubuntu or if not, would kubuntu have all the functionality of ubuntu?  Thanks1;2c1;2c
[19:44] <lordievader> Kubuntu is Ubuntu + KDE, if I understand your question correctly.
[19:49] <ajbone> sounds perfect. sorry I read my question again and its not very clear. Would kubuntu have a software repository that is in sync with or very close to ubuntu?
[19:53] <lordievader> Kubuntu builds on Ubuntu. It uses the same repo.
[19:56] <ajbone> awesome, thanks a lot for your help =)
[22:13] <slawek> Hi
[22:45] <viewer|80984> hi there, im pretty new to linux and kubuntu
[22:45] <viewer|80984> i set my wallpaper and after i reboot it just sets it back to black
[22:47] <valorie> viewer|80984: how did you set it?
[22:47] <valorie> and which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[22:49] <viewer|80984> i set it through Desktop Settings
[22:49] <viewer|80984> and how do i check which version?
[22:49] <valorie> any KDE application Help > about
[22:49] <valorie> or krunner / alt+f4 About
[22:50] <viewer|80984> kubuntu 16.014, kde plasma 5.5.5
[22:50] <valorie> hmmm
[22:51] <valorie> I always right-click on the desktop and "configure desktop"
[22:52] <valorie> I don't see any "desktop settings" as such
[22:52] <viewer|80984> i havent updated kde, i might want to do that
[22:52] <valorie> but then I'm running a much newer plasma and kwin
[22:52] <viewer|80984> yeah kubuntu has 5.5.5, and im going to upgrade it to 5.8 to see if it will be better
[22:52] <valorie> you are running 16.04 with no upgrades or updates?
[22:53] <valorie> I believe we're up to 16.04.3 by now
[22:53] <valorie> you want to keep that up-to-date for security, if nothing else
[22:54] <viewer|80984> so how do i update everything?
[22:54] <viewer|80984> sudo apt update?
[22:55] <slawek> hello
[22:56] <valorie> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgraded
[22:56] <valorie> oops
[22:56] <valorie> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[22:56] <valorie> no d on the end
[22:56] <valorie> update merely brings your source repos up to date
[22:57] <valorie> the upgrade part actually upgrades the software you have installed
[22:57] <viewer|80984> then reboot?
[22:57] <valorie> if it says to, which it presumably will
[22:57] <slawek> I am having a problem with sound after upgrade - no soundcard is detected
[22:57] <valorie> slawek: upgrade from what to what?
[22:58] <slawek> just apt-get upgrade
[22:58] <valorie> from what?
[22:58] <valorie> we have two supported LTS, last release and our new one
[22:58] <valorie> !sound
[22:58] <slawek> 17.10 - actually
[22:58] <valorie> ok
[22:59] <valorie> me too
[22:59] <valorie> are you running backports or any other PPAs, slawek?
[22:59] <viewer|80984> valorie after i update kde plasma with backports will i have too reboot and change the desktop enviroment, or does it upgrade plasma all together
[23:00] <valorie> viewer|80984: ? once you reboot, you are upgraded
[23:00] <valorie> there should be nothing to do after that
[23:00] <slawek> @ubottu - I am checking your links
[23:01] <valorie> if you are still on stock 16.04, it will take awhile; there are lots of upgrades to do
[23:01] <valorie> whether or not you use backports
[23:04] <viewer|80984> okay cool, i got it figured out
[23:07] <slawek> okay - I've checked the basics troubleshooting for sound problems
[23:07] <slawek> soundcard is detected
[23:07] <valorie> cool
[23:07] <slawek> seems to be activated
[23:07] <valorie> I usually just use alsamixer first
[23:07] <slawek> valorie - I used it as well
[23:07] <valorie> so often something is muted for some reason
[23:08] <slawek> everything that is used is with ++
[23:08] <slawek> so also looks fine
[23:08] <slawek> the problem is, that in KDE sound options, there is no soundacr at all
[23:09] <slawek> to be more precise - no sound device to playbackas well as record audio
[23:09] <valorie> hmmm
[23:09] <valorie> how about pavucontrol?
[23:10] <valorie> if that isn't installed, it's the easiest way to mess with pulseaudio
[23:10] <valorie> if you don't like it you can always uninstall
[23:10] <mpc> so what's the best wiki/info about fully loading your kodi box?
[23:10] <valorie> !kodi
[23:10] <slawek> the aplay command says that the device is budy
[23:10] <valorie> hmmm
[23:10] <slawek> *busy
[23:10] <valorie> !info kodi
[23:11] <slawek> "connection to pulseaudio failed" :/
[23:11] <valorie> mpc -- I don't know
[23:11] <valorie> oh gosh, slawek
[23:11] <slawek> that is what pavucontrol says
[23:12] <valorie> this is my suggestion -- make a new user, called Testsound or something
[23:12] <valorie> you don't even have to log out of this session, but log into that one
[23:12] <valorie> and see if your sound works
[23:12] <valorie> if it does, you know it is something in your configs
[23:12] <valorie> or in ~/.local possibly
[23:14] <slawek> let me check that
[23:20] <slawek> hi again - unfortunately no sound on new user account
[23:20] <valorie> yikes
[23:21] <valorie> sounds like somewhere along the line your soundcard isn't supported
[23:21] <slawek> hmm, yesterday it was :)
[23:21] <valorie> I guess you could purge pulseaudio and see if that helps?
[23:21] <slawek> it worked fine
[23:21] <valorie> I mean, you can always re-install
[23:21] <slawek> okay, we see
[23:22] <valorie> what exactly was upgraded, slawek?
[23:22] <valorie> I'm no expert -- just have wrestled with sound issues in the past myself
[23:22] <slawek> valorie - kernel for sure - it asked for reboot
[23:23] <slawek> besides - just some icon packs
[23:24] <slawek> reboot brb in a minutr
[23:25] <valorie> hmmm
[23:30] <slawek> valorie - purging pulseaudio worked fine - thanks!
[23:30] <slawek> now I just do not have the sound control icon ;)
[23:30] <slawek> but I am googling the package name :)
[23:32] <slawek> okay - kmix is just fine
[23:33] <valorie> cool, glad that worked for you
[23:33] <valorie> perhaps next kernel will fix whatever the problem was
[23:34] <slawek> I suppose so
[23:34] <valorie> my next suggestion was going to be booting into the previous kernel to find out if that was the culprit
[23:34] <slawek> anyway - almost half a year w/o sound problem - and bam! here it is
[23:34] <slawek> it used to be a pain in the a** for me couple of years ago
[23:34] <slawek> now I supposed it is already gon
[23:34] <slawek> *gonr
[23:34] <valorie> so many working parts -- it's amazing when it *does* work
[23:57] <John85> lo
[23:58] <John85> i need help setting up ufw....i have tried google,  but still have no idea what ports and what adresses i should allow or block


[04:32] <dnivra> Laney: highvoltage: are you around?
[04:38] <dnivra> Laney: highvoltage: I've uploaded the initial packaging(for debian). You can view it here: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openteacher/. Do review it and let me know if I can make more improvements.
[04:40] <dnivra> (^^ In reference to the conversation we had about packaging openteacher: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/682852)
[04:40] <dnivra> Anyone else who can pitch in some comments/reviews too. Would appreciate it a lot :).
[07:35] <dholbach> good morning
[07:50] <oier> hi, I was wondering if a motu dev with uploads right could review my package "indicator-bug" at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=9151 I already have one advocate, just need a second one
[07:50] <oier> I would be very grateful
[07:51] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[07:51] <dholbach> hey iulian
[09:03] <Quintasan> Good morning.
[10:16] <oier> Hi, I would be very grateful if a motu-dev could review my package "indicator-bug" at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=9151 I already have one advocate so I just need one more
[10:27] <dupondje> is pkg-config needed as build-dep ?
[10:27] <dupondje> or is that always included ?
[10:51] <geser> dupondje: yes, you need to add it to B-D
[12:24] <dupondje> Could somebody give his opinion about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gearmand/+bug/682680
[12:24] <dupondje> thx
[12:24] <dupondje> :D
[12:25] <dupondje> added a patch to newest upstream version
[12:28] <geser> dupondje: urgs, can you attach a diff of the debian directory? no one is going to review all those upstream changes, we are only interesting in changes to the packaging
[12:29] <geser> in those cases usually only the diff.gz (or now the .debian.tar.gz) is attached and the sponsor downloads the .orig.tar.gz himself
[12:31] <dupondje> added the file
[12:35] <geser> dupondje: have you tried to contact Monty Taylor to update the package in Debian so it can be synced?
[12:36] <dupondje> not yet
[12:36] <dupondje> there is a non updated bug since begin this year to ask for an upgrade in debian also
[12:39] <geser> dupondje: I see you added some files to debian/docs: does COPYING include the license text or something else?
[12:40] <geser> got the documentation reworked that you don't need to "make docs" anymore? and also no libgearman-docs.doc-base.* files?
[12:40] <dupondje> COPYING does containt license shizzle yes
[12:40] <dupondje> and docs got rewritten completely in 0.20
[12:43] <geser> what license is it? there is no need to ship COPYING in the binary package if it contains one of the common licenses (which are in /usr/share/common-licenses)
[12:43] <dupondje> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gearman-developers/gearmand/trunk/view/head:/COPYING
[12:46] <geser> as I'm not an expert in this field, I guess it's ok to include it in debian/docs
[12:48] <geser> otherwise the diff looks sane
[12:49] <dupondje> thanks for looking
[12:49] <dupondje> gtg now
[12:49] <Laney> find /usr/share/doc -name COPYING doesn't show much
[12:51] <dnivra> Laney: Hello. Could you review the packaging I've done? It can be found at http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openteacher/
[12:51] <Laney> dnivra: hello, maybe later if I get some time
[12:51] <dnivra> Laney: sure. No problem :).
[12:51] <dnivra> Shall I drop in the mail to -distribution about this now?
[12:52] <geser> Laney: packages.ubuntu.com lists over 100 hits for COPYING in oneiric
[12:53] <dnivra> highvoltage: Could you review the packaging I've done too if you can? It can be found at http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openteacher/
[12:53] <Laney> geser: are a large number of those for tex packages?
[12:53] <dnivra> highvoltage: if you're around that is :)
[12:54] <Laney> geser: anyway, that's low enough to say that it's not common :-)
[12:55] <Laney> dnivra: your build depends aren't complete
[12:57] <dnivra> Laney: Thought I'd already added them. I'll check it out :).
[13:01] <highvoltage> dnivra: thanks, got it
[13:02] <dnivra> highvoltage: it's not completed. I think I've not run dupload yet. must've slipped my mind.
[13:02] <highvoltage> dnivra: ok, np
[13:11] <jtaylor> does someone have a working armel chroot?
[13:12] <dnivra> highvoltage: just uploaded it :). I'd indeed missed it out-it failed due to some network connectivity issue earlier.
[13:13] <highvoltage> dnivra: great, I'm at work and have a busy day, I can look at it after lunchtime (around 4 hours from now)
[13:14] <dnivra> highvoltage: no problem :). Could you drop in a mail then? I'd be busy sleeping then. I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
[13:14] <highvoltage> dnivra: sure, pm me your e-mail address
[13:47] <stlsaint>    /exit
[17:08] <nhandler> Hmm...I just saw http://blog.launchpad.net/?p=2747 . We might want to make sure we update our documentation. I have a feel we might get some process bugs that non-developers are interested in, they hit 'this affects me too' to show their interest, and the status changes to confirmed (which has a slightly different meaning for these types of bugs)
[17:10] <micahg> maybe we should stop using status for process?
[17:21] <Laney> what else? tags?
[17:21] <Laney> we could just use triaged as non-bug-control can't set that
[17:22] <micahg> Laney: indeed, maybe ACKd becomes triaged
[17:23] <Laney> uh huh
[17:23] <Laney> let's wait and see if this becomes a real problem though
[23:30] <RainCT> Any idea why dpkg-buildpackage may be creating a debian-changes-* patch reverting the changes of all other patches? (3.0 quilt, dh7, compat 8)
[23:31] <RAOF> RainCT: Because you've had those patches applied, then reverted them on your build tree?L
[23:35] <RainCT> Uhm, "mv debian ..; rm -r <src>; tar -xf *orig*; mv debian <src>;" fixed it.
[23:35] <RainCT> But the patches weren't applied
[23:36] <RainCT> ah, "had"
[23:36] <RainCT> RAOF: What's the problem with that?
[23:37] <RAOF> RainCT: If quilt thinks those patches are applied then dpkg-bulidpackage will add a patch to ensure that the final build tree looks like what you've got.
[23:38] <RAOF> So, it's possible you've confused quilt.
[23:38] <RainCT> Ah, I see.
[23:38] <RainCT> It'd rather say, quilt confuses me :P
[23:38] <RainCT> Thanks RAOF


[01:05] <Gnudnik> I have KDE on 20.04.1 Studio Ubuntu in a decent system (Ryzen 5 1600AF & Radeon RX550/550 using amdgpu with the latest hwe kernel and xorg installed trying to deal with this issue) and desktop performance is terrible.  Animations are very slow. I have tried a variety of settings including various scale methods, rendering backends, and making Animation speed "Instant" and I've found the only thing that works is disabling the compositor w
[01:05] <Gnudnik> ith "qdbus org.kde.KWin /Compositor suspend"   I don't see much in the Xorg.log or journalctl that should explain this. Can anyone give me a clue?  I don't think it is the card, I paid a pretty penny to upgrade the card from an old Radeon EAH5450 to fix this issue, I'm not a gamer and don't need 3D, just adequate desktop performance, bug sluggish animations drive me bats. Does anyone know how I can fix the compositor (compositor: kwin_x
[01:05] <Gnudnik> 11 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz)?
[01:16] <Gnudnik> It may just be that the Animation speed slider is wedged somehow
[03:11] <tomreyn> Gnudnik: feel free to share journalctl -kb   (or even without the 'k', but aafter a fresh boot) for a second pair of eyes.
[03:12] <tomreyn> i should say i'm not experienced with current kubuntu, though
[03:12] <tomreyn> (just ubuntu in general)
 Guys, I am a beginner at linux and started using kubuntu 20.04 LTS. Facing few problems. Can I ask it here?
[05:28] <tomreyn> Gaurav1043: that's what this channel is for
[05:28] <tomreyn> a5a5a5a5a5: please fix your connection
[05:29] <tomreyn> a5a5a5a5a5: please fix your connection
[05:30] <Gnudnik>  tomreyn  I didn't see anything but you can see the pertinent parts here: https://pastebin.com/xGkBsZR7
[05:31] <tomreyn> Gnudnik: would you mind discussing which malfunctions your are exoperiencing?
[05:33] <tomreyn> there's no use looking at partial system logs while it's not clear which kernel produced them, and which options were passed to it.
[05:33] <tomreyn> ie.   cat /proc/{version,cmdline}
[05:33] <tomreyn> Gnudnik: sorry, not you
[05:33] <tomreyn> Gaurav1043: the above was for you
[05:43] <tomreyn> Gnudnik: or are you actually the same person as Gaurav1043?
[05:49] <tomreyn> Gnudnik: i'm sorry, mixed you two up a bit. anyways, here's a suggestion: enable IOMMU on the 'BIOS setup' screens.
 I use plasma version 5.18.5, plasma frameworks version 5.68.0. When using PC the wifi stops working and it shows wla3s0 failed
 @Gaurav1043, I use lenovo think pad T420, 4GB RAM
 Also there is a graphics problem. KWin manager keeps on showing that my graphics was reset and the icons on desktop and it's names are replaced by black and white dots
[05:56] <diogenes_> Gaurav1043, try to change the compositor backend.
 @Gaurav1043, just use x11 maybe it solve ur problem
 also try use open source amd driver
 i have hard time with proprietary gpu driver
 @diogenes_, How?
 @abc123rkm, Will try
[06:51] <diogenes_> Gaurav1043, in display setting afaik change opengl to xrender.
 @diogenes_, Changed
[06:56] <diogenes_> Gaurav1043, relog.
 @Gaurav1043, Will tell you the result after few mins
 @diogenes_, Ok
[09:10] <Guest61599> Good morning
[10:36] <user|48872> Hi all!
[10:36] <user|48872> I'm wondering if there's any (encrypted) root on ZFS support planned for the Kubuntu installer.
[11:41] <Maik> a5a5a5a5a5: please fix you stuff
[11:42] <Maik> someone kick them out for a while please, this join/part all the time is getting annoying
[12:09] <Mamarok> a5a5a5a5a5: fix your connection!
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:28] <dougl> morning BluesKaj - long time no chat
[12:28] <rishabh> BluesKaj Hi :)
[12:29] <Maik> dougl: better to chat in #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[12:29] <dougl> ... ubuntu was trying to sneak snaps on my system so no more ubuntu
[12:29] <BluesKaj> hi dougl, yeah, LTNS, how's things?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> hi rishabh
[12:30] <rishabh> dougl what are you using now then ?
[12:30] <dougl> Maik maybe dont be so quick to judge my chat I am not even sure what I will say next so I dont know how you can.
[12:30] <BluesKaj> hehe
[12:31] <dougl> so what kubuntu are you running?
 hi 👋 goog morning to you
[12:31] <Maik> dougl: lol... just a feeling since i saw your previous attempt to chat with BluesKaj :)
[12:31] <dougl> linux mint and mx linux
[12:31] <dougl> yes BluesKaj is my prefered chat mate when it comes to anything ubuntu
[12:32] <Maik> :)
[12:32] <dougl> ... but also good to meet you Maik
 mint is awesome ,I use Kubuntu as my primary distribution
[12:32] <Maik> dougl: nice to meet you too
[12:33] <BluesKaj> snaps aren't active on my system, there are few snap files but no apps, so that doesn't bother me much
[12:33] <dougl> rishabh, same for over a decade then snap came along and I have snap hangups... I like to know what is getting installed
[12:33] <rishabh> what is the meaning of give op, take op here modes ?
[12:34] <dougl> channel opperators ops
[12:34] <dougl> raised priveliges
[12:34] <rishabh> dougl, yes, the chromium snap was annoying for me
[12:34] <rishabh> oh, okay I got it thank you :)
[12:35] <dougl> that is where I started to dl mint when ubuntu tried to sneak a snap in when I went to install chromium
[12:35] <rishabh> anyways, now I am a brave user. it is awesome
[12:36] <dougl> BluesKaj, did you disable snap in ubuntu?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> dougl, no, I just don't use it
[12:38] <BluesKaj> I have only 3 snap related files listed in muon
[12:40] <rishabh> I just checked and got to know that I am using Spotify Snap in my system😅
[12:41] <dougl> hmm ??? wonder why in was using a snap fro chromium???
[12:41] <dougl> I will be back in a while I have to take care of the dogs
[12:50] <rishabh> what's the package name of  the emoji selector application in kubuntu ?
 Does Firefox support KDialog ? in latest kubuntu ?
[13:44] <elcuco> hi all, I am trying to configure an app and it fails "  Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5SQL" with any" - what package do I need to install? (i have qtbase5-dev installed)
[14:00] <user|48872> I'm wondering if there's any (encrypted) root on ZFS support planned for the Kubuntu installer.
[14:03] <BluesKaj> user|48872, ask in #kubuntu-devel
[14:07] <elcuco> BluesKaj:  10x
 @diogenes_, It still exists
 sorry for the trouble but I bought a 13 inch macbook in 2019 and since I was using linux before, today I decided to try to install linux and I succeeded but I still haven't found any drivers compatible with my macbook
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[16:29] <tomreyn> DanieleRol: Kubuntu comes with most drivers (kernel modules), you should not need to install any, or only specific drivers (those listed by    sudo ubuntu-drivers list   *may* be useful)
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 @IRC is there any other way to solve it?
[16:56] <dougl> hey BluesKaj - so... you still here - you mean your snaps were not automatically bein g used - you know what I mean?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> no snaps being used here
[16:56] <dougl> I went sudo apt-get install chromiun-browser it almost let me or made me install the snap...
[16:57] <dougl> of chromium so I looked for you for insight but settled for linux mint
[16:58] <dougl> I still have 20.04 installed but never boot to it and used my home partition with the mint install - not really just sym link to it
[17:00] <dougl> I don't like the fact snaps and appimages can have redundancies - that is why we dont use stuff like windows... in my case anyway
[17:01] <dougl> if I wanted that crap I would stay with microsoft in dll hell
[17:02] <dougl> if they had snaps and appimages in 1998 maybe I'd still be using red hat - that is where you need them now you just want them cuz you love windows waste of resources - lol
[17:02] <dougl> sorry for my rant friends...
[17:03] <dougl> been on the phone for 2 hours with service canada
[17:03] <dougl> I am in a rant mood now - but will stop
[18:45] <bambino> hi
[18:46] <bambino> wher am i
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[17:54] <cjwatson> wgrant: Do you happen to have a way to get hold of the output of RAISE LOG commands in plpgsql trigger functions during tests?  I have a feeling that LP_DEBUG_SQL=1 is not enough to actually get the relevant bits of log printed
[17:55] <cjwatson> Oh, I guess I can go and look in /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.3-main.log
[17:55] <cjwatson> Not as good as it winding up on my terminal but it'll do.


[22:27] <faryshta> FFighter, 32 bits distros can handle on top 2^32 bytes which is 4gb if you also have swap and memory on you GPU then you will loss many memory without use.
[22:27] <jamman> ok...thanks soundray!!!
[22:27] <poboy975> btw...windows box has internet, linux does not
[22:27] <joaopinto> !ot SOF4LNX  don't want to be rude but:
[22:27] <matthew> poboy you need something to atleast a floppy disc cd or usb device
[22:27] <soundray> jamman: firefox has a builtin password manager
[22:28] <joaopinto> !ot
[22:28] <FFighter> faryshta, thank you
[22:28] <harlekin> !pxe install | poboy975
[22:28] <Dominik1> what is less resource intesnive ff3 or seamoney
[22:28] <SOF4LNX> joaopinto: What is then on-topic ?
[22:28] <mboman> Do I need to do anything special to get java find additional libraries? When I try to compile a program using ant it says it can't find the jgoodies class, but it has been installed in /usr/share/java
[22:28] <zsquareplusc> Yuji1: yes. the frambeuffer can be set to different resolutions. it also graphically while without, the text mode is always 80x25
[22:28] <poboy975> !pxe install
[22:28] <joaopinto> SOF4LNX, support questions/answers :)
[22:28] <SOF4LNX> joaopinto: I thought computings was, but i could be wrong
[22:28] <jamman> yes, soundray...i know that...but i prefer roboform!!!
[22:28] <Yuji1> zsquareplusc: Confusing but ok. Thanks.
[22:28] <SOF4LNX> joaopinto: Users know best
[22:28] <matthew> !pxe
[22:28] <jamman> soundray: what is wine?
[22:28] <soundray> FFighter: yes, with 32bits you can use a maximum of 3 and a bit GB of RAM
[22:29] <joaopinto> !wine | jamman
[22:29] <matthew> wine is a beverage that makes me tipsy
[22:29] <faryshta> also with 64 distros you will find problems specially on making flash works. well that happened me a year ago don't know if it's fixed now.
[22:29] <FFighter> soundray, thanks
[22:29] <soundray> !beer | matthew
[22:29] <jamman> thanks ubottu!!
[22:29] <FFighter> thanks guys, going for the 64 distro
[22:29] <PCessna> Anyone need instruction to install wine?
[22:29] <matthew> lol soundray
[22:29] <Falstaf> I did what the website (cinerella.org) said to do to get cinerella, but I can't find the program -- where did is it?
[22:29] <joaopinto> hum, doesn't the server kernel allow to use 4GB, even using 32 bits ?
[22:29] <jamman> no thanks jcaopinto...
[22:29] <soundray> Falstaf: try cinelerra
[22:29] <joaopinto> not for a single process, but system wide
[22:29] <ikonia> joaopinto: should do, it has pae build in as I recall
[22:29] <kri> should you install 'unrar' from appitude or get the latest source?
[22:29] <jamman> PCessna...yes! i do!
[22:30] <PCessna> Falstaf, one moment I will type the instructions to install / get it
[22:30] <Appl3|Wind> what filename are icons for programs?
[22:30] <PCessna> ok, jamman.
[22:30] <faryshta> joaopinto, there is a hack to enable it but makes your computer slower.
[22:30] <PCessna> open terminal
[22:30] <matthew> kri unrar is comes with ubuntu
[22:30] <matthew> rar doesn't
[22:30] <soundray> joaopinto: it's possible, I don't know -- FFighter, take note...
[22:30] <Appl3|Wind> like I'm trying to find the image of vlc, to use with cairo-dock
[22:30] <matthew> -is
[22:30] <PCessna> applications --> accesories --. terminal
[22:30] <soundray> joaopinto: there is this PXE extension, is that what you mean?
[22:30] <PCessna> type in the following:
[22:30] <PCessna> sudo apt-get update
[22:30] <kri> matthew: there is no unrar in my ubuntu that works with the command 'unrar' in terminal
[22:30] <PCessna> sudo apt-get install wine
[22:30] <joaopinto> soundray, I think that's the name for it
[22:30] <PCessna> as for that other request
[22:30] <matthew> works for me
[22:31] <matthew> unrar filename.rar
[22:31] <ricky_> cia
[22:31] <ricky_> ciao
[22:31] <ricky_> funzia?
[22:31] <PCessna> go to system --> admin. --> software sources
[22:31] <joaopinto> faryshta, it doesn't make your computer slower, it's enabled by default on the server kernel
[22:31] <soundray> !enter | PCessna
[22:31] <Appl3|Wind> does anyone know where the image file for the vlc dock would be?
[22:31] <PCessna> add http://akirad.cinelerra.org and then do the follwing:
[22:31] <joaopinto> it allows the OS to recognized the 4GB, processes are still limited to the 32 bits address space
[22:31] <PCessna> deb then the url excuse me
[22:31] <tiredbones> soundray, both version of flash where removed and the older version was reinstalled. with this version of flash i was unable to look at some screencast from the python conference.
[22:31] <treefolk> unrar-non free package in synaptic...
[22:32] <kri> matthew: command not found (I can install it from apt-get unrar) but i wounder if its realible. Everytime i install something form appitude its 1 year old packages.
[22:32] <PCessna> 1.) sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get (the programs name)
[22:32] <soundray> tiredbones: you ran that command and it installed the old version?
[22:32] <tiredbones> soundray, yes
[22:32] <matthew> sudo apt-get install rar unrar zip unzip 7zip
[22:32] <faryshta> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:32] <matthew> nice command faryshta
[22:32] <faryshta> with that install rar, unrar, flash, etc.
[22:32] <PCessna> I'll be going -- Back be soon.
[22:33] <kri> faryshta: nice
[22:33] <matthew> that will just make your ubuntu 100% illegal
[22:33] <faryshta> yeah, isn't it cool
[22:33] <faryshta> '??
[22:33] <matthew> yep
[22:33] <tiredbones> soundray, would you like me to paste the output to the web?
[22:33] <joaopinto> matthew, not really, unless you are on the US
[22:33] <soundray> tiredbones: okay, next we're going to try removing it, then also remove the cached download archive to ensure we're installing version 10
[22:33] <matthew> it is my 3rd command every install
[22:33] <soundray> tiredbones: no, I think the picture is pretty clear
[22:34] <faryshta> but totally useful.
[22:34] <matthew> joaopinto it was a joke
[22:34] <joaopinto> :P
[22:34] <Maxflax> I wonder how they can call Intrepid nothing else but an early beta - it have so many flaws and buggy software!
[22:34] <treefolk> !offtopic| matthew
[22:34] <Falstaf> I'm pretty sure I got all the file installed ... I just can't find it to run the program ...
[22:34] <bushwacker> Guys for some reason my Ubuntu install ALWAYS stops at Configuring apt: Scanning mirror: 43%. Should this step take long? My CD drive seems to have stopped activity, it is a lot quieter now. I have tried it with two different CD/DVD drives so far.
[22:34] <bushwacker> How can I fix this?
[22:34] <matthew> treefolk grow up grow a pair
[22:34] <faryshta> matthew, my computer runs only free software, disabled all the restricted drivers and found free codecs to play my stuff.
[22:34] <faryshta> yet I have no problems other use non-free software.
[22:34] <matthew> faryshta same here
[22:35] <soundray> tiredbones: you want to run 'sudo updatedb' again and 'locate libflashplayer.so' so you know what to remove to get rid of version 9 again. Then you do a 'sudo rm /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/*', then the reinstall command again.
[22:35] <matthew> I always try to find free alternatives
[22:35] <joaopinto> bushwacker, that usually happens when the installer is unable to contact the mirrors to check for updates
[22:35] <kompulsa_dot_com> beep only works when I type sudo before it, help?
[22:35] <bushwacker> joaopinto: what should I do?
[22:35] <matthew> but I really need win32codec and libdvdcss for a few things
[22:35] <kompulsa_dot_com> Are there any alternatives to the beep program?
[22:35] <joaopinto> bushwacker, are you using the alternate installer ?
[22:35] <etfb> Hey, faryshta: was it you who recommended Gambas to me?  Or joaopinto, perhaps?
[22:36] <Pelo> I've just read that metacity compositing uses the cpu instead of the gpu ? is that correct ? can I make it use the gpu ? or do I have to use compiz for that ?
[22:36] <mn8086> hello, is there any way to turn off the on/off wireless switch on laptops?
[22:36] <joaopinto> etfb, I did
[22:36] <bushwacker> joaopinto: yes I am
[22:36] <soundray> kompulsa_dot_com: is that the beep from the package of the same name?
[22:36] <mumbles> anyone got a link for http://www.neuxiz.com that works ?
[22:36] <kompulsa_dot_com> soundray: Yes.
[22:36] <faryshta> etfb, I haven't used gambas. It wasn't me, sorry :(
[22:36] <etfb> joaopinto: Well, I've had a look at it, and it's excellent!  Really top-quality stuff, streets ahead of anything else in Linux.  Better quality than VB, of course; up there with Delphi!
[22:36] <Pelo> mn8086, you mean the icon in the tool bar ? you can look in menu > system > admin > network , there might be a show icon there
[22:36] <joaopinto> bushwacker, when I had the problem in the past, I have switchted to another console with CTRL-ALT-FN
[22:37] <matthew> mumbles you can get hat in add remove programs you kno w
[22:37] <etfb> joaopinto: You've just changed how I do Linux software development.  I owe you a drink!
[22:37] <bushwacker> joaopinto: in the alternate install?
[22:37] <joaopinto> bushwacker, then I have checked the apt upadte pid with "ps -ef", and killed, the install process just resumed
[22:37] <matthew> that*
[22:37] <tiredbones> soundray, i still get no output from the command sudo updatedb.
[22:37] <joaopinto> etfb, ;)
[22:37] <soundray> kompulsa_dot_com: can you play other sounds as user?
[22:37] <joaopinto> bushwacker, yes
[22:37] <soundray> tiredbones: that means it's worked
[22:37] <bushwacker> joaopinto: and that workeD? I will try thank you
[22:37] <mumbles> matthew:  realy? just tried sudo and nothing came up, goes to check
[22:37] <kansan> i just got a canon scanner.. but when i scan via xsane, i see no image.... ideas?
[22:37] <mn8086> Pelo, not the icon, the phisical swich button on laptops that turn off/on the wireless adapter
[22:37] <Dominik1> does anybody have enough experience with both windows and linux to comment on hardware demands from windows (XP Pro) vs. linux?
[22:37] <mumbles> erm sudo install even
[22:37] <soundray> tiredbones: any output from locate libflashplayer.so ?
[22:37] <joaopinto> bushwacker, you have a console that you can use for interactive commands, not sure which Fn is it
[22:37] <etfb> joaopinto: Anyhow, better do some non-computery work.  Just wanted to thank you.
[22:38] <poboy9751> sorry I got booted
[22:38] <FFighter> guys, for a 500GB hard-drive, how much do you think should go to the / partition ?
[22:38] <kompulsa_dot_com> soundray: Yes.
[22:38] <joaopinto> etfb, np, now just start developing some nice apps for us :P
[22:38] <FFighter> any good tutorials on partition schemes someone could point me to? :)_
[22:38] <matthew> mumbles make sure you select all available packages in add remove
[22:38] <timbury> FFighter: depends what you're using the box for.
[22:38] <tim__b> Anyone having issues with Intrepid+Audacity = Slow Interface and Playback? Bought a new machine, twice the power of my old (cpu), but Audacity works awefully slow, slower then on my old machine! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6167841
[22:38] <Pelo> mn8086, that would be more of a hardware thing I would think , look in the bios,  or try asking in #hardware
[22:39] <mumbles> nope noehting there
[22:39] <soundray> kompulsa_dot_com: on System-Preferences-Sound Preferences-Sound, have you got the "Play alerts..." box ticked?
[22:39] <faryshta> FFighter, depends on what you will use your partition.
[22:39] <mn8086> Pelo, thanks, will try on #hardware. i've tried change cmos settings but no luck
[22:39] <matthew> mumbles open synaptic and enable univese multiverse and all those other repos
[22:39] <matthew> then reload then search for it
[22:39] <faryshta> If you want to have many programs or keep a webserver or a database then wil have to be big.
[22:39] <bushwacker> joaopinto: what exactly should I type in? theres over 300 things in ps aux
[22:40] <mumbles> matthew:  have them all loaded afaik
[22:40] <Pelo> mn8086, if you don't want wifi at all you can probably disable it in the bios
[22:40] <joaopinto> bushwacker, ps -ef | grep apt
[22:40] <matthew> you using 8.10
[22:40] <lineman60> i did apt-get install iptables-dev do you know where the source files would be? not int /usr/src
[22:40] <faryshta> for a normal user 10 GB should be enough. Mine is working with 5.
[22:40] <kompulsa_dot_com> soundray: Yes.
[22:40] <kansan> i just got a canon scanner.. but when i scan via xsane, via ubuntu hardy.  i see no image.... ideas?
[22:40] <tiredbones> soundray,    the output from locate libflashplayer.so      /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so. should i now run the rm command? is the flashplyer where it should be?
[22:40] <bushwacker> udpkg?
[22:40] <mroc> hi.  i'm having trouble with sharing a network connection.  it used to work fine in hardy.  can anyone help me set this up?
[22:41] <mike909> easiest way to send a popup message (ie xmessage) to X, via ssh? I keep getting "unable to open display"
[22:41] <bushwacker> apt-get -o APT::Get::List-CLeanup=false...
[22:41] <defenceminister> My sound stop working, I tried reinstalling alsa. This did not fix it, what else can I do?
[22:41] <jamman> i typed in that command...sorry, forgot ur name!! but it asked me for my password, and when i tried to type it in, it wouldn't let me!!!
[22:41] <matthew> wait mumbles are you looking for nexuiz ?
[22:41] <mumbles> y7eh the game
[22:41] <soundray> tiredbones: run 'sudo rm /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so', then 'sudo rm /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/*'
[22:41] <matthew> try
[22:41] <bushwacker> joaopinto: umm would it be called apt-setup?
[22:42] <matthew> sudo apt-get install nexuiz
[22:42] <joaopinto> bushwacker, probably
[22:42] <bushwacker> joaopinto: its not there, but log-ouput -t apt-setup is
[22:42] <bushwacker> it seems that it has terminated?
[22:42] <mumbles> worked that time thanks matthew
[22:42] <matthew> cool
[22:42] <soundray> jamman: it lets you, it just doesn't show the keys you've typppped
[22:42] <matthew> you were spelling it wrong that is why you couldn't find it :P
[22:42] <bushwacker> wait configuring-apt went to scanning the security updates repository
[22:42] <joaopinto> bushwacker, there must be a process running that is printing that "check for mirrors message"
[22:43] <jamman> soundray: no it doesn't! the flashing thing doesn't even move!
[22:43] <soundray> kompulsa_dot_com: you could run 'strace beep' and try to determine from the output which file it fails on (last few lines)
[22:43] <bushwacker> strANge
[22:43] <joaopinto> bushwacker, did you kill it, or just timed out ?
[22:43] <LoveGuru> i did port forwarding in my router now somehow i can't login to my router again :< is there any solution
[22:43] <kruger> hi people , can i ask what laser printer i must buy for my ubuntu os ? w8 sugestions, tnx
[22:43] <bushwacker> no its running it seems
[22:43] <soundray> jamman: it's not supposed to. You enter your password blindly.
[22:44] <jamman> i tried that before, soundray!!! but when i type it in, and press ENTER, it says no such command!
[22:44] <soundray> kruger: HP is usually good at supporting free software
[22:44] <soundray> jamman: what are you trying to run?
[22:44] <Falstaf> I am very sure cinerella downloaded and installed ... I just can't find it to run it -- where did it go?
[22:44] <savid> jamman,  easy on the exclamation marks!!!
[22:44] <soundray> Falstaf: watch the spelling: CINELERRA
[22:44] <bushwacker> joaopinto: maybe the servers are loaded down and its just taking forever?
[22:44] <savid> jamman, there's this thing called a period!!
[22:44] <bushwacker> now it moved into select and install software
[22:45] <joaopinto> bushwacker, could be, or your network was not properly setup, on my case it was a LAN without connectivity to the mirrors...
[22:45] <bushwacker> whatever it is, i'll fix it when I get a desktop
[22:45] <bushwacker> maybe just a bug, who knows
[22:46] <nameless`> hi
[22:46] <nameless`> j'ai des soucis de son
[22:46] <kruger> soundray : well i choised a SAMSUNG SCX-4300 and is writing here that is having drivers for diferents linus OS
[22:46] <soundray> !fr | nameless`
[22:46] <ihavenoname>  hello
[22:46] <ihavenoname>  :D
[22:46] <bushwacker> ubottu needs the spanish channel
[22:46] <bushwacker> oh lol
[22:47] <pyrohotdog> When I insert a blank CD, it shows up on the desktop, but no burning program recognizes it.
[22:47] <bushwacker> thats french
[22:47] <mike909> easiest way to send a popup message (ie xmessage) to X, when logged in through SSH? I keep getting "unable to open display"
[22:47] <joaopinto> mikael79_, did you ssh -X ?
[22:47] <MTecknology> I'm trying to install a minimal installation of Ubuntu inside VirtualBox as a proof of concept but I'm not getting any input from the mouse after I startx.
[22:48] <soundray> mike909: run 'ssh -X user@host' to enable X forwarding
[22:48] <joaopinto> oh, the local X needs to have xhost + for local host
[22:48] <joaopinto> and you need to set the DISPLAY for the local X session
[22:48] <nameless`> hi guys i've got sound problem, lspci detect a AC'97 Audio Controller  but aplay -l said "no soundcard found"
[22:48] <soundray> kruger: start Ubuntu, log in, then connect the USB cable of the printer. Follow the instructions.
[22:48] <tiredbones> soundray, how long should it have taken to execute the command  sudo rm /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/*'? I had to cancel it.
[22:48] <nameless`> when i click on the sound icon it said "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[22:48] <nameless`> what can i do ?
[22:49] <soundray> tiredbones: you've copied a "'" (single quote) that you shouldn't have
[22:49] <zabbadapp> i'm using Kopete in ubuntu 8.10 ... how do I change the KDE oxygen theme? I installed kde system settings, but its item "appearance" can only change icons, not GUI look.
[22:49] <tiredbones> soundray, okay, my mistake.
[22:49] <kdogg> nameless` go to system preferences sound and test
[22:50] <mike909> ssh -X user@host then typing xmessage "test" yeilds: Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[22:50] <bushwacker> Select and Install software: the CD's blinking, but progress bar isnt moving
[22:50] <nameless`> kdogg, audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[22:50] <MTecknology> Any guesses what I need to install in order to be able to use the mouse in my virtual machine?
[22:50] <wannabegeek> hello
[22:51] <kdogg> nameless` is this a new install or did it work before?
[22:51] <kruger> soundry: u are very funny , thx , but i"m stiil looking for a printer , i din"t buy it yet ;))
[22:51] <paulfitzpatrick> anyone know why I don't have some basic linux commands in my ubuntu hardy LS distro?
[22:51] <nameless`> i don't know, i get the pc like that
[22:51] <paulfitzpatrick> can't use finger and locate
[22:51] <arve> O great Gurus of the internetz
[22:51] <wannabegeek> anyone got ubuntu eee 8.04.1?
[22:51] <mike909> got it. Needed to run "DISPLAY=:0"
[22:51] <kdogg> nameless` ubuntu was already installed?
[22:51] <soundray> kruger: you said you chose it, so I assumed you had. Get a HP printer, it's more likely to work.
[22:52] <nameless`> kdogg, yep
[22:52] <arve> I have 3 hard drives, including this linux drive. Is there a way of running them in RAID without formatting the disk i'm booting from?
[22:52] <kdogg> nameless, what version is it running and what speed cpu does it have?
[22:52] <kruger> soundray: tnx man , i pareciate your ideea :)
[22:52] <kdogg> :D
[22:52] <tiredbones> soundray, do i use synaptic to install flash now?
[22:53] <mike909> thank you joaopinto
[22:53] <vlad> hey ppl i need help
[22:53] <kdogg> tiredbones flashplugin-nonfree
[22:53] <nameless`> kdogg,  Hardy Heron
[22:53] <soundray> tiredbones: it's going to be a reinstall, so it's probably easiest if you do the command line thing: '
[22:53] <nameless`> kdogg, correct CPU
[22:53] <kdogg> speed?
[22:53] <vlad> i got hardy 8.04 when i want to see some video on youtube i get white screen
[22:53] <soundray> tiredbones:    sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:54] <kdogg> vlad, get flashplugin-nonfree from synaptic
[22:54] <keep> when i shut down there is some text come on the screen then the Shutdown screen comes on how do i stop the text from coming on the screen
[22:54] <vlad> yes i did that but video is blank
[22:54] <Falstaf> I can't find the files to run cinerella I am sure it downloaded, how can I find the the files?
[22:54] <vlad> when i got nonfreecodec not installed it asks for plugin
[22:54] <n8tuser> mike909-> were you able to write a pop up message as root to any user?
[22:54] <LoveGuru> i did port forwarding in my router now somehow i can't login to my router again :< is there any solution
[22:54] <kdogg> vlad does it say click here to get flash?
[22:55] <vlad> before
[22:55] <vlad> but now is installed
[22:55] <nameless`> kdogg, i don't know, but it works well
[22:55] <nameless`> kdogg, whatever
[22:55] <nameless`> kdogg, how can i fix my sound problem ?
[22:55] <vlad> and it supposed to load the video and it stains in blanck screen
[22:55] <rdw200169_> take that FloodBot3...
[22:55] <kdogg> nameless` i know its not realyl a fix, but i would reinstall with the newest version
[22:55] <pyrohotdog> Can anyone help me with cd burning?
[22:55] <kdogg> s/realyl/really
[22:56] <mike909> n8tuser: yes....thank you.
[22:56] <vlad> kdogg?
[22:56] <soundray> LoveGuru: if you've set the router to forward the WAN port to a LAN host, you should still be able to login to the router from the LAN side.
[22:56] <rdw200169_> n8tuser: are you always here?
[22:56] <zax1>  i cant seem to be able to increase resolution over 800x600 any ideas on how to force it?
[22:56] <sirjoebob> hey all.. anyone know why all of the sudden I can't edit the gnome main menu?
[22:56] <n8tuser> mike909-> which utils you used to write to the user session?
[22:56] <tiredbones> soundray, the ols version got installed again.
[22:56] <Haegin> bzrk: any idea how? i have got a dns server (bind) working as a forwarding dns but i can't find anything on assigning hostnames without the server knowing anything about the client
[22:56] <kdogg> vlad, maybe try and reinstall? flash is tricky sometimes.
[22:56] <n8tuser> rdw200169_-> my nick may be parked, but not here,
[22:56] <mike909> xmessage (or gmessage if you want it to look "nicer")
[22:57] <soundray> tiredbones: what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[22:57] <vlad> ill try
[22:57] <vlad> brb
[22:57] <tiredbones> soundray, 8.10
[22:57] <rdw200169_> n8tuser: no, i mean you're always chatting it up in here ;)
[22:57] <LoveGuru> soundray: i tried with the same ip but its saying cannot find server :<
[22:57] <Falstaf> cinerella or cinelerra I can't find it on my system where do all those files go?
[22:57] <n8tuser> mike909-> oh okay.  thanks
[22:57] <DarkKnight> hey i downloaded flexbuilder...can anyone tell me how to install it
[22:57] <n8tuser> rdw200169_-> yeah, whenever i can
[22:57] <mroc> can anyone help me set up internet connection sharing?? i've asked a few times and had no response so far.  it used to work in hardy.
[22:57] <rdw200169_> Haegin: you mean like random hostname assignment, like ISP's do?
[22:57] <Wintervenom> Is it possible to get a global menu if you're using Openbox, but don't want to install any GNOME deps?
[22:58] <tiredbones> soundray, i should say that synaptics shows the newer version.
[22:58] <Wintervenom> (The only one I see so far is gnome2-globalmenu, but I think I need to have the GNOME panel for that.)
[22:58] <DarkKnight> hey i downloaded flexbuilder...can anyone tell me how to install it
[22:58] <rdw200169_> Haegin: instead of having to assign specific hostnames in dhcp and bind configs?
[22:58] <kdogg> DarkKnight what is the extension on the end of it?
[22:58] <soundray> tiredbones: strange... It's probably worth trying with synaptic then
[22:59] <DarkKnight> kdogg; bin
[22:59] <pyrohotdog> Blank CDs show up on the desktop, but when I try to burn from Rhythmbox it tells me to insert a blank?
[22:59] <zax1>  i cant seem to be able to increase resolution over 800x600 any ideas on how to force it to 1280x1024 or similar?
[22:59] <tiredbones> soundray, should i use synaptic to remove the version we just installed?
[23:00] <DarkKnight> kdogg; ???
[23:00] <kdogg> DarkKnight you need to make the bin executable then run it
[23:00] <Ruge> hey guys, could someone help (again, cuz im regularly here heh)
[23:00] <kdogg> DarkKnight sudo chmod +x filename
[23:00] <DarkKnight> kdogg; how do i do that
[23:00] <DarkKnight> kdogg; kk
[23:00] <kdogg> then run it
[23:00] <rdw200169_> zax1: i've seen a lot of people here with that problem...
[23:00] <mercutio22> YEEEEEEESSSS!!!!!
[23:01] <mercutio22> I DID IT
[23:01] <beta> DarkKnight, fire up gnome terminal and type ... sh filename.bin
[23:01] <zax1> rdw200169_: have you seen any leave with a solution?
[23:01] <Ruge> any takers?
[23:01] <soundray> tiredbones: yes, and also rerun the sudo rm commands as before (you can probably get them back with the Up key)
[23:01] <mercutio22> ikonia> it worked!
[23:01] <DarkKnight> kdogg; filename including the extension??
[23:01] <rdw200169_> zaxl, reluctantly no, but at least you can feel comfortable knowing you're not the only one... this seems directly linked with ubuntu 8.10 and the new config-less x.org
[23:01] <kdogg> yeah just start spelling it then hit tab
[23:02] <kdogg> DarkKnight ^^
[23:02] <Johnny_5> do u have 2 b upgraded 2 8.04 b4 u can upgrade 2 the newest version?
[23:02] <DarkKnight> kdogg; ???
[23:02] <mercutio22> ikonia> strangely gparted still displays one empty partition
[23:02] <Ruge> Hey all, just was wondering if someone knew the fix for this issue: I am currently installing Ubuntu 8.10 and when I enter the Install desktop, my screen shows 1 1/2 of the desktop on my monitor and I cant make out whast ahppening cuz of it! Any hints on why this may be the case?
[23:02] <mercutio22> ikonia> I will boot into windows now to check it out brb
[23:02] <rdw200169_> zax1: check here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6172483
[23:02] <soundray> Johnny_5: please take the time to type out your words properly. You will be taken more seriously.
[23:02] <zax1> thnks on my way
[23:03] <kdogg> DarkKnight if you hit tab, while typing the name of a file that resides in the current directory you are in , it will finish it for you
[23:03] <tiredbones> soundray,  fyi - synaptic shows no flash was installed.
[23:03] <kdogg> DarkKnight buy yes, the exact filename.
[23:03] <rdw200169_> zax1: or herehttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ubuntu-8.10-resolution-fixed-to-800x600-680058/
[23:03] <soundray> tiredbones: strange
[23:03] <MaximLevitsky> I need help, I updated system to interpid, and rest you know.... system is broken
[23:04] <rdw200169_> zax1: or this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924889
[23:04] <MaximLevitsky> Can't launc gksu nautilus
[23:04] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: can you run 'sudo apt-get -f install'?
[23:04] <Johnny_5> do you have to be upgraded to 8.04 before you can upgrade to the newest version?
[23:05] <hagna> Errors were encountered while processing: python-setuptools
[23:05] <MaximLevitsky> soundray, passes ok
[23:05] <soundray> Johnny_5: yes
[23:05] <kdogg> tiredbones what version Ubuntu are you running? a few weeks ago, I knstalled from an older cd, maybe gutsy or hardy and i did not realize it was old. But anyway after getting all the updates, I never could get flash to work. SO i downloaded intrepid and it works fine.
[23:05] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: what happens when you run gksu nautilus?
[23:05] <eydaimon> How can I make the sound louder? It's awefully soft, and my headphones don't have a volume control
[23:05] <MaximLevitsky> I get this, when I try to launch gksu nautilus:
[23:05] <MaximLevitsky> (nautilus:7200): Eel-WARNING **: GConf error:
[23:05] <MaximLevitsky>   Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -
[23:05] <koops> can some one help me? im having problems with skype and alsa on intrepid... i configured alsa as default sound server on hardy and had no problem, but i dont know why it doesnt work with intrepid... some one?
[23:05] <FloodBot2> MaximLevitsky: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:05] <MaximLevitsky> ....
[23:06] <tiredbones> kdogg, version 8.10 that i downloaded before i installed.
[23:06] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: please use the pastebin next time
[23:06] <rdw200169_> zax1: xfix might even work... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-September/160719.html
[23:06] <soundray> !pastebin > MaximLevitsky
[23:06] <MaximLevitsky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72087/
[23:06] <Ruge> anyone/
[23:06] <rdw200169_> zax1: the problem, reluctantly is not related to any specific video hardware...
[23:07] <tiredbones> soundray,  maybe that is why i screwed it up in the first place.
[23:07] <endlessguitar> hi all
[23:07] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: what do you want to do with gksu nautilus?
[23:07] <soundray> tiredbones: is it an upgraded system?
[23:08] <MaximLevitsky> soundray:  edit system files, what else
[23:08] <mroc> i'm about ready to give up.  is there anyone that can help me set up internet connection sharing? it was working in hardy just fine and now i can't figure out what to do in intrepid.
[23:08] <kdogg> tiredbones,i dont know what to tell you, I tried everything, even going back to ff2 and removing and reinstalling irefox alltogether. The best I can tell you is reinstall Ubuntu then immediately go get flashplugin-nonfree and all should be good.
[23:08] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: you don't edit system files that way
[23:08] <vladtsepesh84> hi guys i have a question for you....i have a samsung blackjack and i would like to syncronize contacts with evolution (or another addressbook) like i use to do with activesync and microsoft outlook....is there a way to do it???
[23:08] <MaximLevitsky> soundray:  besides, it seems that gconf is broken for all root apps
[23:08] <endlessguitar> can someone help me I have got linux ubuntu eee on my eeepc901 and I dont like the frame on the mainwindow how do I get like the normal start meny as linux ubuntu?
[23:08] <MaximLevitsky> soundray, I do, and did for fe years
[23:08] <tiredbones> soundray,  no i created a new iso from the ubuntu site.
[23:08] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since the upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 intrepid last night
[23:09] <koops> ammm skype problem on intrepid... cant use alsa can someone give me a hand?
[23:09] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: well, you run unnecessary risks that way. Use 'gksu gedit /path/to/file' instead.
[23:09] <kdogg> endlessguitar frame on main window? can you explain more?
[23:09] <Ruge> anyone ever encounted something that looks like this: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6445/img0039mediumlj3.jpg
[23:09] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: try 'sudo gconftool --recursive-unset /' to fix your gconf problems
[23:10] <tiredbones> soundray,  my son's system was an upgrade and his had no problems.
[23:10] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since the upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 intrepid last night
[23:10] <eydaimon> Ruge: I think so. with a screwwy monitor
[23:10] <vladtsepesh84> guys someone can help me?
[23:10] <Ruge> eydaimon: really? but my screen is great! sigh
[23:10] <endlessguitar> kdogg look here http://crashedpips.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nbr_grab1.png its like all things are in a frame
[23:10] <evan_> hey is 3dwm still active?
[23:10] <kdogg> tiredbones, i think that was why mine went, i installed an older ubuntu, then got the latedt upgrade. Borked/
[23:10] <eydaimon> Ruge: trying to remember the details. it wasn't even that long ago.
[23:10] <endlessguitar> I want have a meny like old meny
[23:11] <soundray> tiredbones: did synaptic install version 9 as well>?
[23:11] <mroc> !ask | vladtsepesh84
[23:11] <Hotshot`> howdy everyone!! :)
[23:11] <Ruge> eydaimon: im using an ATi Rage Mobility 32MB GFX card
[23:11] <vladtsepesh84> i have already ask...i rewrite...
[23:11] <endlessguitar> so I can choose program from the start meny kdogg
[23:11] <Ruge> eydaimon: Native resolution: 1400x1050
[23:11] <vladtsepesh84> hi guys i have a question for you....i have a samsung blackjack and i would like to syncronize contacts with evolution (or another addressbook) like i use to do with activesync and microsoft outlook....is there a way to do it???
[23:12] <eydaimon> Ruge: sorry, I can't recall what happened
[23:12] <soundray> vladtsepesh84: what operating system does the samsung run?
[23:12] <vladtsepesh84> windows mobile 6
[23:12] <kdogg> endlessguitar doesnt it have it there in that pic you showed me?
[23:12] <Guest96693> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/16286
[23:12] <Ruge> wowsers
[23:12] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since the upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 intrepid last night. Sound is changed to ALSA, the system detects the sound card, and it worked before I upgraded.
[23:12] <Ruge> dw someone on the forums
[23:12] <Ruge> figured it o ut
[23:12] <Ruge> 2 mins after i posted it on there lmao
[23:12] <endlessguitar> kddogg you se all are in a frame
[23:13] <eydaimon> Ruge: what was it?
[23:13] <Ruge> eydaimon: Its a Dell Inspiron 8000 thing, pressing Fn+F7 solved it
[23:13] <soundray> vladtsepesh84: follow this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936
[23:13] <kdogg> endlessguitar right, and you want a normal desktop?
[23:13] <endlessguitar> I want a empty desktop and all programs on the start meny
[23:13] <Frogging101> !sound
[23:13] <endlessguitar> yes'
[23:13] <mercutio22> ikonia, can you read me?
[23:13] <kdogg> endlessguitar is that ubuntu-mobile?
[23:13] <vladtsepesh84> soundray do you know if it works?
[23:13] <koops> man! sudo killall pulseaudio resolve skype problems, i dont know why ubuntu developers still use pulse, it never worked for me in any computer i had
[23:13] <joshua24> sound
[23:14] <endlessguitar> I have installled ubuntu eee kdogg
[23:14] <soundray> vladtsepesh84: it worked with my older Pocket PC
[23:14] <joshua24> why did ubottu have to respond LOL j/k
[23:14] <joshua24> !sound
[23:14] <endlessguitar> on my eeepc901
[23:14] <mau> Hello. Is there a page where I can read how Ubuntu 64 differs from the normal Ubuntu?
[23:14] <vladtsepesh84> good!!!! i'll try very soon
[23:14] <joshua24> yep...... that it does
[23:14] <vladtsepesh84> tanks
[23:14] <mau> 64 bit
[23:14] <Haegin> rdw200169_: yup
[23:14] <vladtsepesh84> :D
[23:14] <mroc> how do i set a static ip?  it used to be easy in hardy...now i get an error about ifupdown and readonly.
[23:14] <Johnny_5> k
[23:14] <Johnny_5> ty
[23:14] <tiredbones> soundray,  first let me correct what said earlier. I still have version 8.04 on this system. Second synaptic did install flash 10.0.
[23:14] <joshua24> mau   ubuntuforums.org would have posts on it...
[23:14] <Johnny_5> that's kinda what i thought....
[23:14] <Frogging101> Sound isn't working since the upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 intrepid last night. Sound is changed to ALSA, the system detects the sound card, and it worked before I upgraded.
[23:14] <endlessguitar> you understand what I mean with the ugly  yser interface? kdogg
[23:14] <soundray> tiredbones: so you're sorted now?
[23:15] <endlessguitar> user"
[23:15] <joshua24> !
[23:15] <Hotshot`> Can anyone here confirm if LVPM will work on ubuntu 8.10
[23:15] <tiredbones> kdogg, thanks for your help.
[23:15] <kdogg> endlessguitar im personally not familair with that operating system. I think what you want is the ubuntu-desktop, but i dont know if that will run on your pc
[23:15] <mau> joshua24: thanks, I'll search that site
[23:15] <endlessguitar> ok
[23:15] <joshua24> np
[23:15] <kdogg> np
[23:15] <endlessguitar> how can I check that?
[23:15] <faryshta> !info lvpm
[23:15] <tiredbones> soundray,  i guess so, i'll try it have supper. thanks for help.
[23:15] <kdogg> tiredbones is it working now?
[23:16] <con-man> nice -n 19 wine wow.exe
[23:16] <con-man> crap
[23:16] <con-man> wrong window
[23:16] <soundray> tiredbones: yw
[23:16] <jacobus> alguem da hollanda
[23:16] <thecarlhall> Where can I find the g++-3.4 package?
[23:16] <kompulsa_dot_com> Thank you soundray.
[23:16] <tiredbones> kdogg,  I'll try it after supper. family been yelling at me .
[23:16] <soundray> kompulsa_dot_com: figured it out with strace?
[23:16] <Frogging101> My sound isn't working since the upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 intrepid last night. Sound is changed to ALSA, the system detects the sound card, and it worked before I upgraded.
[23:16] <kdogg> :D
[23:17] <bushwacker> everytime that I try to apt-get somehting, it says: Could not find package. I know they exist though
[23:17] <jacobus> ola
[23:17] <bushwacker> how can I get them to download?
[23:17] <soundray> bushwacker: the syntax is 'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[23:18] <l3d> ok why is it I get betterre fresh rate on my graphics card under windows but on here I have to use a really small res to get 75htz ? I hope someone gets what I am asking about.
[23:18] <bushwacker> soundray: I know, I did that
[23:18] <MaximLevitsky> What might give this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72087/
[23:18] <MaximLevitsky> shows up when I run any gnome app under root
[23:18] <MTecknology> I'm trying to install a minimal installation of Ubuntu inside VirtualBox as a proof of concept but I'm not getting any input from the mouse or keyboard after I startx, but I can still switch back to tty and do things.
[23:19] <kuntinet> my sound does`t work in ubuntu 8.04. any body can help me
[23:19] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: did you run the gconftool command I suggested?
[23:19] <Frogging101> My sound isn't working since the upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 intrepid last night. Sound is changed to ALSA, the system detects the sound card, and it worked before I upgraded.
[23:19] <kri> does this looks right for you guys? made a little "tutorial" to install mplayer http://sajten.net/installmplayer
[23:19] <MaximLevitsky> soundray, tell me again?
[23:19] <soundray> bushwacker: have you configured your sources? System-Administration-Software Sources
[23:19] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: pay attention this time
[23:19] <thecarlhall> How can I install a specific version of a package with apt-get?
[23:19] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: try 'sudo gconftool --recursive-unset /' to fix your gconf problems
[23:20] <soundray> !pinning | thecarlhall
[23:20] <thecarlhall> soundray: thanks
[23:20] <BHSPitCSP> I've got a machine here which was running Hardy and using the fglrx, but since upgrading to Intrepid is unable to use the fglxr driver.  (I get the "low graphics mode" notice on startup.)  Help?
[23:20] <BHSPitCSP> xorg-driver-fglrx is installed.
[23:20] <kompulsa_dot_com> soundray: http://pastebin.com/d7034cd
[23:20] <joshua24> !info fglrx
[23:20] <kuntinet> my comp, toshiba tecra a8, sound card detected but no sound there
[23:20] <mercutio22> I had a host of problems today with my system. I lost my partition table, recovered it with testdisk, AND then lost grub because testdisk needed to build a new partition table
[23:20] <bushwacker> can someone help me fix this? I need to get PHP and Xchat
[23:20] <BHSPitCSP> !ati
[23:20] <mercutio22> now I can't boot into vista but all files are there
[23:21] <joshua24> !info xorg-driver-fgrlx
[23:21] <mercutio22> I suppose i still have a problem with grub
[23:21] <BHSPitCSP> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[23:21] <bushwacker> !info php5-cli
[23:21] <MaximLevitsky> soundray:  I did both
[23:21] <MaximLevitsky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/72095/
[23:21] <joshua24> BHSPit cant be - there is no package
[23:21] <BHSPitCSP> joshua24: see above.
[23:21] <coolace> Hi everybody, I'm having problem to find de device name of a tvtunner, can anybody help me?
[23:22] <soundray> MaximLevitsky: sorry, don't know how to fix that
[23:22] <joshua24> oh sorry... didnt read that... :(
[23:22] <joshua24> ah... i spelled wrong
[23:22] <soundray> kompulsa_dot_com: somehow the permissions on the beep binary seem to be wrong. I'd try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install beep'
[23:22] <endlessguitar> can someone help me to change userinterface in linux ubuntu eee+
[23:22] <soundray> Gotta go guys, see you all
[23:22] <joshua24> endless: gnome?
[23:22] <endlessguitar> please
[23:23] <endlessguitar> you know this os?
[23:23] <joshua24> yeah... used it for years now... lol
[23:23] <endlessguitar> ok
[23:23]  * bluefoxx_ listens to u2 - Silver And Gold
[23:23] <endlessguitar> so I can remove the ugly interface=
[23:23] <endlessguitar> so I have a normal program meny etc?
[23:24] <joshua24> endlessguitar: is this gnome we talking about or not..... or kde or what... do u have an apps system and places menu?
[23:24] <kompulsa_dot_com> soundray: It still says permission denied.
[23:24] <kdogg> endlessguitar what model pc do you have?
[23:24] <MTecknology> X is not listening to any of my keyboard or mouse input BUT it listens to it just fine on tty terminals... Anybody know what I need to do to make this work?
[23:24] <joshua24> endlessguitar i cant help if you dont help me.......
[23:24] <mau> joshua24: yes, there is a specific section. Not sure I'll find the page I was looking for but lots of info. Thanks!
[23:24] <mau> Bye
[23:24] <kdogg> joshua24 he has ubuntu eee its a mobile os i believe
[23:25] <endlessguitar> I have got a eeepc 901
[23:25] <joshua24> mau: np
[23:25] <endlessguitar> and I have installed ubuntu eee
[23:25] <joshua24> mobile edition? darn....
[23:25] <endlessguitar> you see this ugly picture http://crashedpips.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nbr_grab1.png that the frame I mean I HATE
[23:25] <endlessguitar> all program are in the desktop
[23:25] <endlessguitar> not like the old ubuntu in a start meny
[23:25] <kdogg> endlessguitar cant you just install a normal os on it?
[23:25] <kuntinet> kompulsa : try reboot and enter the recovery then try to fix x server
[23:25] <faryshta> !spanish
[23:26] <joshua24> uhh..... darn... is this OEM?
[23:26] <joshua24> or did u install lol
[23:26] <coolace> can anybody tell me how to find the location (/dev/...) of a given device?¿
[23:26] <BHSPitCSP> No, Asus doesn't ship Ubuntu-eee
[23:26] <endlessguitar> I dont know this ubuntu eee is special for this computer
[23:26] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Good evening my Geek brains!!
[23:26] <l3d> ok why is it I get betterre fresh rate on my graphics card under windows but on here I have to use a really small res to get 75htz ? I hope someone gets what I am asking about.
[23:26] <endlessguitar> I have no clue
[23:26] <BHSPitCSP> But since you're on Ubuntu-eee, you can do anything with it you can do with a normal Ubuntu system.
[23:26] <joshua24> anyhow if you have a software installer than you can try to install Gnome or Kde or XFCE... your pick
[23:26] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> I'm finally up to speed and have installed Gutsy, how do I resize an mpeg photo to make it emailable?
[23:26] <Anacranom>  I have been using Ubuntu since 6.10 and have had minor issues (completely fixable) with each dist upgrade, but nothing like this one to 8.10 , Are any of you seeing a lot of this? Are many people just staying with 8.04 or are there fixes for all the issues?
[23:27] <joshua24> BH he does not like the gui.. thats his problem
[23:27] <joshua24> :|
[23:27] <BHSPitCSP> endlessguitar: you're trying to make it like a normal desktop?
[23:27] <endlessguitar> ye
[23:27] <joshua24> install gnome if thats case
[23:27] <endlessguitar> exactly
[23:27] <Dominik1> so I keep reading that Linux is supposed to be faster then windows.. vista maybe.  But the point is I have had Windows XP run fine on this mashine for ages, and now all the sudden if I have one to many tabs open in mozilla or if I try to edit images in GIMP the mashine starts to seriously lag, and it behaves like it has a fragmented disk, but I realize that that concept doesn't apply to Linux, so what is wrong? Is it that I installed
[23:27] <kdogg> endlessguitar it is a 64 bitpc you should be able to install any os on it
[23:27] <endlessguitar> how I do that?
[23:27] <joshua24> download the ubuntu disk if your lazy
[23:27] <Guest96693> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/16286
[23:27] <BHSPitCSP> endlessguitar: if you can get to a terminal on there, try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" without quotes, or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" for a faster XFCE-based desktop
[23:27] <cw51> l3d: your refresh rate shouldn't matter at all if it's >=60hz if your using an lcd
[23:27] <endlessguitar> ok
[23:28] <n8tuser> Anacranom-> why even upgrade?
[23:28] <BHSPitCSP> endlessguitar: ubuntu-desktop is the normal ubuntu, but it may be too slow on an eee
[23:28] <joaopinto> Dominik1, how much RAM do you have ?
[23:28] <endlessguitar> I try the commnd
[23:28] <faryshta> endlessguitar, XFCE is very recomendable, is more stable and fast than gnome.
[23:28] <endlessguitar> yeh
[23:28] <Dominik1> joapinto: 480
[23:28] <Anacranom> Dominik1, do you have swap enabled?
[23:28] <joshua24> or in synaptic (if its on eee edition) go ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop ubuntu is gnome kubuntu kde and xubuntu XFCE
[23:28] <endlessguitar> xfce
[23:28] <endlessguitar> ok
[23:28] <joshua24> i use gnome myself
[23:28] <Dominik1> Anacranom: 2 gigs
[23:28] <endlessguitar> what will I write?
[23:28] <coolace> can anybody tell me how to find the location (/dev/...) of a given device?¿ pleeeeeease.. :D
[23:28] <BHSPitCSP> endlessguitar: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:28] <endlessguitar> ok
[23:28] <daaaman64> I have a spare hdd drive, I need windows for something (that I am certain off), so I need a quick review of bootloaders, if install windows onto a seperate hdd, it's not gonna ef with my bootloader on my main drive right?
[23:28] <jaakkome> Hey all... is there still a lot of problems with 8.10 and nvidia video cards?
[23:28] <Anacranom> Dominik1, but is it enabled and in use?
[23:29] <kyle205> coolace: what type of device?
[23:29] <BHSPitCSP> endlessguitar: it will probably ask you for your password, and also to confirm Y or N
[23:29] <joshua24> darn BH how fast do u type... lol i couldnt even finish typing and it was up from u lol
[23:29] <joaopinto> Dominik1, I wouldn't expect much with less 512 MBs, are you are about misinformed, Ubuntu is not just Linux, you also have Gnome which is not tha light
[23:29] <Dominik1> Anacranom: yes Htop reports it as in use (239 megs)
[23:29] <coolace> a hauppauge tv tunner
[23:29] <joaopinto> ops, a bit
[23:29] <endlessguitar> ok Installing now
[23:29] <joshua24> kool
[23:29] <endlessguitar> then
[23:29] <joaopinto> Dominik1, I would use xubuntu for anything < 512mb
[23:29] <l3d> ok but why is it under windows at 1028x768 its 75htz but under ubuntu I have to use 800x600 to get that?
[23:29] <daaaman64> anyone know?
[23:29] <joshua24> now on login screen you need to select gnome
[23:29] <joshua24> when its done
[23:29] <uffo> hello can someone give me lastest flash player 9 to me (libflashplayer.so)
[23:30] <Dominik1> and this lagging really happens when I approach the end of my ram, within like 40 megs, but then it doesn't efficiently swap, it really behaves as if the disk were badly fragmented
[23:30] <joshua24> o wait xfce my bad
[23:30] <Anacranom> Dominik1, for the longest time mine was not and was having similar issues, someone here can help,,, was tons faster for me after fixing, but that was a long time ago and i cant remember how
[23:30] <joshua24> and it will boot into XFCE
[23:30] <joaopinto> Dominik1, if you don't have enough free physical mem, your system will be swapping, which is worse than fragmentation :P
[23:30] <Dominik1> Anacranom: fixing what?
[23:31] <Dominik1> jaopinto: so your saying windows can swap more efficiently then linux? cause I swaped under windows tooo, but it never lagged that bad
[23:31] <l3d> lcd ubuntu 8 04
[23:31] <Dominik1> joaopinto: so it isn't the fault of linux, or UBUNTU, but it is GNOME's fault?
[23:31] <Anacranom> n8tuser, well, i'm not going to on my main box, but did try on this laptop,,, after a few hours trying to fix stuff, i just fresh installed 8.04 and all was good again
[23:32] <joaopinto> Dominik1, well, or firefox :P
[23:32] <Dominik1> in other words I have to switch to xubuntu (which I did not enjoy) to make this mashine run?
[23:32] <faryshta> Dominik1, the usage of swap makes that effect on disk since is writting and reading at the same time. the laser goes and struggle a lot.
[23:32] <daaaman64> anyone?
[23:32] <n8tuser> Anacranom-> yep a fresh install is much preferable
[23:32] <faryshta> Dominik1, you can enable compiz and emerald on XFCE.
[23:32] <Dominik1> joaopinto: yea I REALLY get problems when I run firefox, what options do I have for browsers? FF2?
[23:32] <faryshta> there is nothing to miss here.
[23:32] <joaopinto> Dominik1, try ff2, opera, epiphany, etc
[23:33] <Dominik1> faryshta: I do not understand
[23:33] <MTecknology> I just installed something and now when I launch openbox, I get the error "Xsession: warning: xrdb command not found; X resources not merged." how can I fix this?
[23:33] <Guest96693> Dominik1 i think that the latest ubuntu release expects everyone to have at least 2g ram 4ghz cpu/s   not like older linux
[23:33] <Dominik1> faryshta: you say that swap has that effect, but it didn't under windows : (, and what do you mean by emerald on XFCE?
[23:33] <Dr_willis> !find xrdb
[23:34] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, sound systems seem to dissapear, even a custom made sound 'theme' is gone :(
[23:34] <AutoMatriX> anybody heard of that problem ?
[23:34] <faryshta> Dominik1, the usage of swap is to store memory of ram on the hard drive then when is using a program it needs to read and write on there which is more slow than do it on conventional ram.
[23:34] <Dominik1> damn it guys, why do OS's keep moving up with hardware requirments when in the past beautifull effects were achived with much less, it just seems that OS's keep getting more power hungry, but what am I getting out of it
[23:34] <Dr_willis> xrdb  is in --->  x11-xserver-utils - X server utilities
[23:34] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: well have you checked your sound preferences...
[23:34] <shredder12> try testing with different options..
[23:35] <Ddorda> Hey! there is any way to use the sources of 8.10 on 8.04 without upgrading?
[23:35] <shredder12> someone should work..
[23:35] <faryshta> Dominik1, emerald and compiz can be used on XFCE. Just install them and then you can do two things:
[23:35] <Anacranom> n8tuser, no, 8.04,,, i went back, and all was good,, the 8.10 was a fresh install- and nothing worked, video (res-max 600x400) sound, wireless- nothing... outside of adding noacpi acpi=off to the kernel line  8.04 works out of the box
[23:35] <joaopinto> Ddorda, no
[23:35] <faryshta> Dominik1, first) compiz --replace every time you want to enable them.
[23:35] <Guest96693> package question   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/16286
[23:35] <Ddorda> so from now and on i need to update everything by myself?
[23:35] <faryshta> Dominik1, second) edit a .conf file to get it by default.
[23:35] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, everything is ok, but when I try to set some other sounds to some events, such as a mouseclic or a windowshut, those settings are 'forgotten'
[23:35] <dli> Ddorda, what do you mean? do you want backports?
[23:35] <denysonique> kam
[23:35] <eNons3nse> i'm having a problem.  when i upgraded to intrepid my movies folder went wacky.  in nautilus it shows that there are no files in it but when i view the folder in terminal everything is still there.
[23:36] <Ddorda> i want to have updated programs
[23:36] <dli> Ddorda, upgrade to 8.10, then
[23:36] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: so it mean you are able to play songs and video sounds without any problem..
[23:36] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, absolutely, yes, with no problem
[23:36] <Guest65215> my gdm setup wont load
[23:36] <jonna> Blank CDs show up on the desktop, but Rhythmbox still tells me to insert a blank when I try to burn.
[23:36] <Dominik1> faryshta: I kind of don't seem why the same theme and especially dragging and dropping isn't available in xfce
[23:36] <Ddorda> but 8.10 is lame! i'e just came back to 8.04
[23:36] <Ddorda> i've*
[23:37] <Dominik1> Ddorda: is 8.4 faster??
[23:37] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, they just seem not to be reminded :(
[23:37] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: So, you are having problems with system sound..
[23:37] <faryshta> Dominik1, drag and drop is there. I use it.
[23:37] <Ddorda> well.. no. but it doesn't have billions of bugs
[23:37] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: may be you should try other tabs in sound preferences..they deal with system sounds..
[23:37] <Dominik1> faryshta: I can't drag a link into the Panels
[23:37] <darkbishop_> hai...what should i use to recover deleted data using linux.is there a way to do this.maybe command or software
[23:37] <WelshDragon> Ddorda, bugs such as?
[23:37] <erikh> please. someone tell me I can get perl 5.8 on intrepid
[23:37] <eNons3nse> gah.  why can't i see my movies!
[23:38] <Ddorda> such as no option to connect any network
[23:38] <dli> Ddorda, did you read the upgrade howto? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[23:38] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, we do not seem to be on the same wavelenght ;)
[23:38] <pirateargh> #django
[23:38] <faryshta> Ahh yeah Dominik1 that is a issue.
[23:38] <daaaman64> I have a spare hdd drive, I need windows for something (that I am certain off), so I need a quick review of bootloaders, if install windows onto a seperate hdd, it's not gonna ef with my bootloader on my main drive right?
[23:38] <Ddorda> it's just "forget" all the network
[23:38] <Dominik1> can somebody tell me what extra stuff we are getting from the OS that expects more and more hardware from us, when we had beautiful visual effects in the past, with minimal ram and cpu??
[23:38] <darkbishop_> eNons3nse:what kind of movie?
[23:38] <VastHappyDude> aaaaaah
[23:38] <faryshta> the menus is not complete hopefully will be fixed on 4.5
[23:38] <VastHappyDude> i need a .rar extractor for linux
[23:38] <faryshta> 4.6 sorry.
[23:38] <Ddorda> no, i didn't
[23:38] <Dr_willis> !rar | VastHappyDude
[23:38] <Anacranom> eNons3nse, have to tried to hit ctrl+h while viewing the nautilis?
[23:38] <Guest65215> my gdmsetup wont load, can anyone assist me
[23:38] <Guest96693> Dominik1 bloat
[23:39] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: then throw more light on your problem so that i can catch the correct wavelength.. ;)
[23:39] <eNons3nse> Anacranom: yes
[23:39] <Dominik1> daaaman64: just tell your bios the boot order
[23:39] <VastHappyDude> thanks
[23:39] <dli> Ddorda, it ignores your /etc/network/interfaces or something?
[23:39] <Ddorda> yes
[23:39] <VastHappyDude> !info unrar-free
[23:39] <Dominik1> Guest96693: for real, nothing more? wtf, sorry, but I thought linux comunity was above "bloat"
[23:39] <VastHappyDude> sweetness
[23:39] <Ddorda> it says like it can't find any network
[23:40] <daaaman64> dominik1, okay ya I figured, just never know how over-arching windows can be...
[23:40] <dli> Ddorda, you mean from networkmanager?
[23:40] <Guest96693> Dominik1 sorry,   guess not.
[23:40] <darkbishop_> eNons3nse:use vlc player then
[23:40] <dli> Ddorda, show the exact error message
[23:40] <tapas> what's this i
[23:40] <Ddorda> yes, and from iwconfig
[23:40] <eNons3nse> as soon as i upgraded it happened.  nautilus shows 0 items in the folder but there are lots of folders and files in there.  terminal shows them all fine.  and it's only that folder that it happened to.
[23:40] <Guest65215> my gdmsetup wont load, can anyone assist me, please
[23:40] <tapas> little program called that reacts to the volume keys on my thinkpad?
[23:40] <dli> Ddorda, you mean the wireless driver issue?
[23:40] <Ddorda> I don't have it anymore... i told you i'e just came back from 8.10 to 8.04
[23:40] <Ddorda> yea
[23:40] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: well where do you really configure the sound for such events..
[23:40] <darkbishop_> Guest65215: in text or in gui
[23:40] <Guest65215> gui
[23:41] <Dominik1> damn so frustrated
[23:41] <Ddorda> and i'm not going to install it back soon
[23:41] <mike909> does anyone know of a good article for services that can be disabled, if not needed? (ie bluetooth, ipv6 etc.)
[23:41] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, preferences, sound
[23:41] <eNons3nse> it's like nautilus doesn't see the contents of this 1 folder any more
[23:41] <Guest65215> it loads then goesoff
[23:41] <Guest96693> Guest65215 gdm won't load ?    no graphical login screen ?
[23:41] <Anacranom> eNons3nse, hrm, was worth a shot, i'd try to make a ne w dir in /home, then try to sudo cp /path/to/video/parentdir/* /home/newdir/   as a test
[23:41] <Guest65215> no the setup
[23:41] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: then what do you really mean by "forgotten" ( you specified it earlier..)
[23:41] <eNons3nse> Anacranom: yeah, i'll try that
[23:41] <Guest96693> Guest65215 gdm?
[23:42] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: wht's the problem you are facing while dealing with settings...
[23:42] <kdogg> mike909 yu could always go through your services list and google them one by one
[23:42] <Guest96693> Guest65215 are you saying the gdm configuration application is failing ?
[23:42] <shredder12> AutoMatrix: are the settings correct and you are still not able to play the sound..
[23:42] <shredder12> ??
[23:42] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, when I change from my personal settings to lets 'ubuntu studio' settings, everything is ok
[23:42] <Guest65215> yes
[23:42] <Anacranom> eNons3nse, do you have /home on a separate partition?
[23:43] <Guest96693> Guest65215 ok.  that makes more sense.    check that you can sudo     sudo echo boo
[23:43] <AutoMatriX> shredder12,  but I cannot go back, the 'changed' sound settings all dissapeared
[23:43] <Guest65215> yes
[23:43] <eNons3nse> Anacranom: no.  this file i'm having problems with is on an external drive though
[23:43] <mike909> kdogg, thanks, but it seems like theirs more 'running' than what's listed in those services. Guess I should have worded it as "processes" that can be disabled?
[23:43] <Guest65215> it comes back boo
[23:44] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, did I  make myself understandable now ?
[23:44] <Anacranom> eNons3nse, what fs is the drive and what extensions to the videos have?
[23:44] <Guest65215> the window shows then disappears
[23:44] <kdogg> mike909 maybe this article can help you
[23:44] <kdogg> http://lifehacker.com/software/feature/slim-down-and-speed-up-linux-333798.php
[23:45] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: yes you have quite a bit..but i m not able to understand that how can you not shift to ur earlier sound configuration..after changing it to some other one..
[23:45] <eNons3nse> Anacranom: drive is ext3.  there are probably lots of different file types in there.
[23:45] <Guest96693> Guest65215 that sounds like gksudo failing is why i asked you to check sudo.   i dont know.
[23:45] <Anacranom> eNons3nse, ok, just curios
[23:45] <mike909> yea, saw that one, thanks. At guess I'm on the right track with my searching.
[23:46] <kdogg> np :D
[23:46] <Guest96693> Guest65215 find what application is running and call it in a terminal   you might get an err message that way
[23:46] <Dominik1> http://lifehacker.com/software/feature/slim-down-and-speed-up-linux-333798.php <-- for all that are frustrated and only have a couple of megs of ram (not gigs of that junk)
[23:46] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, that's the problem. of my 3 configs, studio, ubuntu and 'altered' settings, ther are only 2 left .... ubuntu and ubuntu studio
[23:46] <Guest65215> let me try
[23:46] <Anacranom> eNons3nse, I gtg for a few min,, let me know how it goes, if not here i'll be in #seaphor
[23:47] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, the altered settings have simply gone
[23:47] <Guest65215> i got the error
[23:47] <Guest96693> is somebody interested in looking at an interesting package management issue http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/16286  ?
[23:48] <ari_stress> hi
[23:48] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: well i don't seem to have any clue about your problem..i haven't seen anything  like that..
[23:49] <cngzwing> list
[23:49] <cngzwing> @list
[23:49] <cngzwing> #list
[23:49] <kdogg> ive never seen a apt-get command like that before :)
[23:49] <Guest65215> i got the error
[23:49] <cngzwing> help
[23:49] <FloodBot2> cngzwing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:49] <kdogg> cngzwing how can we help you
[23:49] <cngzwing> no juset a test, i don't remember the command.
[23:50] <Guest96693> /list
[23:50] <cngzwing> thanks
[23:51] <Guest96693> Guest65215 what is it?
[23:51] <Guest65215> where do i paste it
[23:51] <uffo> can someone give me lastest flash player 9 to me (libflashplayer.so), flash 10 makes high cpu loads
[23:51] <Guest96693> !paste
[23:51] <lorenzo> hi guys, i installed KDE via synaptic to try it out but I decided i'm better off with gnome. How do I completely uninstall kubuntu-desktop and all the applications that came with it  please? Been asking this same question on this chan for a few days but now one could help, i hope this is my lucky day
[23:51] <koops> how do i remove pulseaudio from starting at boot?
[23:51] <pyrohotdog> Blanks are recognized on the desktop, but burning programs still tell me to insert a blank. Ideas? Anyone..
[23:52] <shredder12> Guest96693: what does that command really do..??
[23:52] <cngzwing> have some body use the cedega play wow?
[23:52] <Guest96693> pyrohotdog configure the burning app to use the correct device
[23:52] <ari_stress> koops: system > preferences > session
[23:52] <LF|Irssi> koops i think its System>Administration>Services
[23:52] <Guest96693> shredder12 ?
[23:52] <pyrohotdog> Guest96693: It's rhythmbox?
[23:52] <shredder12> ya..
[23:52] <cw51> l3d
[23:52] <koops> ive done that already
[23:53] <pyrohotdog> Guest96693: And it's a laptop, there is only one drive..
[23:53] <Guest96693> pyrohotdog configure the burning app to use the correct device
[23:53] <shredder12> Guest96693: i mean what r u really trying to do with that command..
[23:53] <tilkster> yo anyony?
[23:53] <pyrohotdog> Guest96693: Okay, how?
[23:53] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, maybe you can telle me how to save a 'sound theme' ???
[23:53] <LF|Irssi> koops well you could always uninstall PulseAudio totally
[23:53] <ari_stress> koops: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[23:53] <tilkster> ok im thinking about installing AsterixNow for a phone system? do i need linux installed or is it own OS?
[23:53] <Guest96693> shredder12 reinstall all packages
[23:53] <LF|Irssi> what ari_stress said
[23:54] <ari_stress> :)
[23:54] <Guest65215> gdmsetup[29952]: GLib-GIO-CRITICAL: g_simple_async_result_set_from_error: assertion `error != NULL' failed
[23:54] <koops> ive done that and i get an error and cant login into my account
[23:54] <ari_stress> hi LF|Irssi how do we scroll-back in irssi??
[23:54] <Frogging101> When I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10, sound stopped working. It worked before the update. The system detects my sound card, and the devices are all set to ALSA.
[23:54] <Guest65215> thats the 1st
[23:54] <LF|Irssi> odd, i totally uninstalled PulseAudio and never had any issues
[23:54] <DavidCanarias> Can anyone help me as I am having URL problems and am clueless how to resolve it! Thanks in advance
[23:54] <cngzwing> 这里有人会看中文么？
[23:54] <Guest96693> Guest65215 eeek.
[23:54] <tilkster> >	ok im thinking about installing AsterixNow for a phone system? do i need linux installed or is it own OS?
[23:55] <Guest65215> there are 4 or  5
[23:55] <shredder12> AutoMatriX I have never used sound themes before so i m sorry i won't be able to help you here..
[23:55] <kdogg> tilkster it looks like it is its own os
[23:55] <LF|Irssi> ari_stress: page up or you can try the /lastlog command         such as /lastlog PulseAudio  or /lastlog ari_stress
[23:55] <ari_stress> tilkster: asterisknow is a distro
[23:55] <MaximLevitsky> btw, beware that you need to do dpkg --purge pulseaudio, after you removed it
[23:55] <tilkster> ok it is???
[23:55] <tilkster> so what is the advantage of that
[23:55] <Guest96693> !bug > Guest65215
[23:55] <tilkster> ?
[23:55] <tilkster> so what is aterix/ asterix now
[23:55] <kdogg> yes
[23:55] <ari_stress> tilkster: the adv is that we dont need to bother installing all the components
[23:55] <kdogg> os
[23:55] <AutoMatriX> shredder12, ok, that's what I meant with that wavelength ;) thanks anyway
[23:55] <LoveGuru> !samba
[23:56] <wos> can anyone tell me how i can set up ubuntu so i can right click and open a terminal in the folder im in?
[23:56] <tilkster> ok that sounds good
[23:56] <tilkster> ill get the AsterixNOW
[23:56] <shredder12> AutoMatriX: ya i can understand now.. :D
[23:56] <tilkster> ...
[23:56] <tilkster> Legit!
[23:56] <ari_stress> wos: that's interesting, i want to know too
[23:56] <FloodBot2> tilkster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <darkbishop_> wos: just like windows ha..
[23:56] <Frogging101> wos: You have to copy the folder path into terminal with 'cd' before it
[23:57] <Dr_willis> wos,  theres some package you install that does a similer thing for the gnome file manager.. i saw it/installed it the other day
[23:57] <wos> Frogging101: no theres another way. ive done it before
[23:57] <Guest65215> it worked until i udpated
[23:57] <DavidCanarias> Can anyone please help me with a URL problem
[23:57] <Dr_willis> i have a 'open in terminal' menu item for  my gnome file manager
[23:57] <darkbishop_> Dr_willies: what the package name?
[23:57] <Lucifer_> join us at irc.anatonic.nl
[23:57] <ari_stress> Dr_willis: how do you do that?
[23:58] <wos> Dr_willis: how did you do that
[23:58] <Dr_willis> nautilus-open-terminal - nautilus plugin for opening terminals in arbitrary local paths
[23:58] <Dr_willis> amazing eh? :)
[23:58] <ari_stress> Dr_willis: thanks a bunch!! )
[23:58] <Frogging101> When I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10, sound stopped working. It worked before the update. The system detects my sound card, and the devices are all set to ALSA.
[23:58] <darkbishop_> Dr_willies: thx tooo
[23:59] <CorpseFeeder> I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now it tells me it can't detect my graphics card every time it boots up and I am to configure it manually.
[23:59] <CorpseFeeder> How?
[23:59] <Guest96693> anyone have clue-by-four on package management issue http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/16286  ?
[23:59] <ari_stress> CorpseFeeder: try boot into ubuntu recovery
[23:59] <Grant931> I am trying to change the permissions of a folder on a separate partition, but the konsole won't let me do it
[23:59] <ari_stress> it has a menu to setup the graphic again
[23:59] <Grant931> when I run this command, I get this output: