[04:43] <winopi> hey
[08:27] <vit> hello. Anyone could tell me how to deactivacte the most recent software checkbox in Ubuntu mate boutique ?
[08:42] <ouroumov_> mwhat?
[08:50] <vit> Ubuntu mate boutique was on version 16.04. I have clicked to get most recent softwares and now it is on 17.10 package source !
[08:52] <ouroumov_> vit, this is normal
[08:55] <vit> ok, but i wanted to get back to standard install, so I have downgraded ubuntu mate welcome to 16.04.1. That's ok, but the checkbox is again in grey and not clickable... Thats not important. I will handle all that with synaptic if I need to...
[12:54] <ashokabandla> Hello fellow Ubuntu-Mate Users !
[14:02] <monah> hello room
[14:02] <monah> I just installed ubuntu mate 17.04
[14:02] <monah> but my rtl wifi doesnt work
[14:02] <monah> anyone could help me pls?
[14:10] <Akuli> the steps to fixing this are: 1) find out more details about the wifi device 2) install a driver
[14:10] <Akuli> let's start with 1
[14:10] <Akuli> press ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal, type lsusb and press enter
[14:11] <monah> ok
[14:11] <monah> i did
[14:11] <Akuli> does the wifi card show up there?
[14:11] <Akuli> if you're not sure it's ok
[14:11] <monah> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:b008 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[14:11] <monah> yes
[14:11] <Akuli> ok good
[14:11] <Akuli> hmm how do we find out more info about it
[14:11] <monah> with lspci
[14:12] <Akuli> nice
[14:12] <Akuli> try it out
[14:12] <monah> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[14:12] <monah> so i think it is there
[14:12] <Akuli> great
[14:12] <Akuli> the ubuntu cd comes with some drivers
[14:12] <Akuli> i mean usb stick
[14:12] <monah> ok
[14:12] <Akuli> plug it in, but don't reboot into it
[14:13] <monah> ok
[14:13] <monah> i did
[14:13] <Akuli> did you get a folder?
[14:13] <monah> yes
[14:13] <Akuli> go to pool
[14:14] <monah> ok
[14:14] <Akuli> hmm
[14:14] <monah> did
[14:14] <Akuli> where is it
[14:14] <arduino_> who r u?
[14:14] <monah> i m in
[14:14] <monah> the folder called pool
[14:14] <Akuli> just looking around
[14:14] <Akuli> maybe ubuntu doesn't come with a realtek driver 0_o
[14:14] <Akuli> arduino_, random people who help each other :)
[14:14] <arduino_> maybe
[14:15] <arduino_> wtf
[14:15] <Akuli> monah, i found this https://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[14:15] <monah> ok
[14:16] <Akuli> not sure if it will work
[14:16] <monah> the iso of my usb stick of ubuntu doesn have any realtek driver
[14:16] <Akuli> yeah my 16.04.2 iso doesn't have either
[14:16] <arduino_> i have lag
[14:16] <arduino_> pls help me
[14:17] <monah> destination path 'rtlwifi_new' already exists and is not an empty directory.
[14:17] <Akuli> from the git clone?
[14:17] <monah> i m just retyping the commands i found on the site
[14:17] <arduino_> can u hack minecraft?
[14:17] <Akuli> monah, yeah which command was that error coming from?
[14:17] <Akuli> i guess the git clone https/::blablabla
[14:17] <monah> from this:
[14:18] <monah> git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/
[14:18] <Akuli> do this instaed
[14:18] <Akuli> git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/ wifi
[14:18] <monah> ok
[14:18] <Akuli> now it'll make a folder called wifi and go there instead
[14:18] <monah> ok
[14:19] <Akuli> btw which kernel is this
[14:19] <Akuli> uname -a
[14:19] <Akuli> uname -r is enough actually
[14:19] <monah> Linux monah 4.10.0-22-generic #24-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 22 17:43:20 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:19] <Akuli> let's hope that this works
[14:19] <Akuli> oh
[14:20] <monah> ok
[14:20] <Akuli> yeah it should work
[14:20] <Akuli> "This code will build on any kernel 3.0 and newer"
[14:20] <Akuli> should be ok
[14:20] <monah> so what should i do?
[14:20] <monah> i m in
[14:20] <Akuli> did it finish cloning?
[14:20] <Akuli> cd wifi
[14:20] <monah> https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/
[14:20] <Akuli> oh
[14:21] <Akuli> hi Akuli2 :D we have the same name
[14:21] <Akuli> oh thats arduino_ whatever
[14:21] <Akuli2> ohh
[14:21] <Akuli> monah, from now on, when i type "$ blabla" it means "type blabla to terminal and press enter"
[14:21] <monah> ok
[14:21] <Akuli> monah, $ git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/ wifi
[14:22] <Akuli> do that if you didn't already do it
[14:22] <Akuli> then
[14:22] <Akuli> $ cd wifi
[14:22] <monah> ok
[14:22] <monah> monah@monah:~/wifi$
[14:22] <Akuli> great
[14:22] <Akuli> $ make
[14:22] <Akuli> it might take a while
[14:22] <monah> ok
[14:22] <monah> CC [M]  /home/monah/wifi/base.o
[14:22] <monah>   CC [M]  /home/monah/wifi/cam.o
[14:22] <monah>   CC [M]  /home/monah/wifi/core.o
[14:22] <monah>   CC [M]  /home/monah/wifi/debug.o
[14:22] <monah> and still
[14:22] <Akuli> yeah be patient :)
[14:23] <monah> ok
[14:23] <arduino_> i have a question
[14:23] <Akuli> no need to copypaste me all the output
[14:23] <Akuli> yes arduino_?
[14:23] <monah> ok
[14:23] <monah> sorry
[14:23] <Akuli> no problem
[14:23] <arduino_> are u hackers?
[14:23] <Akuli2> of course
[14:23] <Akuli> arduino_, depends on what you call a hacker. do you mean someone who makes things or breaks things?
[14:23] <arduino_> it doesn't matter
[14:24] <Akuli> i prefer making stuff
[14:24] <grongman32> try this: ooskar.com
[14:24] <arduino_> thats cool akuli
[14:24] <arduino__> can you tell me how to hack computers ?
[14:24] <grongman32> and this: virus.com
[14:25] <Akuli> can some op warn the arduino guy or tell him to go away or something? his stuff don't seem to have anything to do with ubuntu mate
[14:26] <grongman32> yeah leave please
[14:26] <grongman32> we are trying to work
[14:26] <arduino_> okai
[14:26] <grongman32> you are just a rat-boy
[14:26] <monah> so i think it has just finished processing the command git
[14:26] <arduino_> =,(
[14:27] <Akuli> monah, you mean make?
[14:27] <Akuli> good
[14:27] <Akuli> $ sudo make install
[14:27] <Akuli> arduino_, btw you can create your own irc channel for free
[14:27] <monah> Install rtlwifi SUCCESS
[14:27] <Akuli> arduino_, /join ##arduinolol
[14:27] <Akuli> monah, great :) follow rest of the commands
[14:28] <Akuli2> yeahh
[14:28] <monah> the commands?
[14:28] <Akuli> on the thing i linked
[14:28] <monah> sorry but which ones?
[14:28] <Akuli> looks like you can just reboot and it should work
[14:28] <Akuli2> arduino_ leave this group
[14:28] <monah> ah i should reboot?
[14:28] <Akuli> who are the ops here
[14:28] <Akuli> yeah
[14:28] <monah> oh ok thnak you so much
[14:28] <monah> i ll try it.
[14:28] <Akuli> come back here if it doesn't work :)
[14:28] <monah> thx
[14:28] <monah> great thx
[14:29] <grongman32> thx
[14:29] <grongman32> iĺl try it to
[14:29] <grongman32> too
[14:29] <grongman32> iḿ bored
[14:33] <monah> hi room
[14:33] <monah> again it´me
[14:34] <monah> well unfortunatly it didn´t work
[14:37] <Akuli> hmm :(
[14:37] <Akuli> then i dont know what to do
[14:37] <KTrad> What are you trying to do?
[14:37] <monah> ok
[14:37] <monah> thx anyway
[14:37] <monah> actually
[14:38] <monah> my wifi rtl doesn´t work
[14:38] <KTrad> which RTL?
[14:38] <monah> rtl8723be
[14:40] <KTrad> 16.04?
[14:40] <monah> no
[14:40] <monah> 17.04
[14:41] <KTrad> Have you tried following the steps here:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/635625/how-do-i-get-a-realtek-rtl8723be-wireless-card-to-work
[14:41] <KTrad> also I'd make sure to remove the conf file if you have it
[14:41] <monah> ok
[14:41] <Akuli> KTrad, no we haven't followed that yet
[14:41] <monah> i ll try this one
[14:41] <KTrad> You won't have to rebuild everytime the kernel is updated
[14:41] <Akuli> KTrad, we did this one though https://askubuntu.com/a/593015
[14:42] <KTrad> oh ok, well this is based off the same code but built for DKMS and is one easy to install package
[14:45] <monah> ok so i
[14:45] <monah> add the repository
[14:45] <monah> and installed the new one
[14:45] <monah> lets hope it will work
[14:45] <KTrad> kk
[14:48] <monah> hi
[14:48] <KTrad> did it work?
[14:48] <monah> unfortunately no
[14:49] <KTrad> is this a clean installation?
[14:49] <monah> yeah
 Linux monah 4.10.0-22-generic #24-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 22 17:43:20 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:50] <Akuli> should be new enough
[14:51] <monah> yes
[14:51] <monah> actually i m looking at
[14:51] <monah> and i sa
[14:51] <monah> etc
[14:51] <monah> modprobe
[14:51] <monah> and i saw
[14:52] <monah> iwiwifi
[14:52] <monah> which didnt exist beforew
[14:52] <KTrad> oh ok well didn't see this mentioned in the other post but they want you to uninstall the driver you compiled so do: sudo apt purge rtlwifi-new-dkms then reboot. Then follow the instructions here to uninstall the one you compiled. Then reinstall rtlwifi-new-dkms
[14:52] <KTrad> eless-card-to-work
[14:52] <KTrad> oops
[14:52] <KTrad> one sec will get the link
[14:52] <KTrad> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2289959
[14:53] <monah> ok
[14:53] <KTrad> reboot before each new step though
[14:53] <monah> so i delete first?
[14:53] <KTrad> Hopefully that will clean out any remnants. If not my only other advice would be to reinstall and then just install from the PPA
[14:54] <KTrad> sudo apt purge rtlwifi-new-dkms  first
[14:54] <monah> i did sudo..
[14:54] <KTrad> then follow instructions in that link I just posted to uninstall the one you tried compiling
[14:54] <monah> and now which steps u said to follow?
[14:54] <monah> ok
[14:54] <KTrad> after reboot reinstall from ppa
[14:54] <KTrad> then reboot once more
[14:55] <monah> ok
[14:56] <KTrad> brb
[14:56] <monah> ok
[15:05] <KTrad> back
[15:15] <monah> hi
[15:15] <KTrad> any luck?
[15:15] <monah> not yet
[15:17] <monah> how to
[15:17] <monah> remove the one i configured
[15:17] <monah> how to remove the old rtl config?
[15:18] <KTrad> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2289959
[15:18] <KTrad> post 2
[15:18] <monah> i see but
[15:18] <monah> it asks /cd/to/rtl
[15:19] <monah> how could i figure out wher is this
[15:19] <monah> in
[15:19] <monah> etc
[15:19] <monah> modeprobe.d
[15:19] <monah> i dont have such file
[15:19] <monah> i have
[15:20] <monah> dkms.conf
[15:20] <monah> and iwlwifi.conf
[15:20] <KTrad> /path/to/rtl is the path where you git cloned the driver and compiled it
[15:21] <Akuli> $ cd ~/wifi
[15:21] <monah> ok but how i figure that out? i forgot it
[15:21] <monah> ok
[15:22] <KTrad> brb work again haha
[15:22] <monah> ok
[15:28] <monah> Unable to locate package rtlwifi-new-dkms
[15:30] <KTrad> back
[15:31] <KTrad> when did you get that error message monah?
[15:32] <KTrad> If you got it at the: sudo apt-get install --reinstall rtlwifi-new-dkms linux-firmware that makes sense because rtlwifi-new-dkms is no longer installed
[15:32] <KTrad> instead do: sudo apt install rtlwifi-new-dkms linux-firmware
[15:35] <monah> hello
[15:35] <KTrad> Did you get that?
[15:35] <monah> just now
[15:35] <monah> i have that error
[15:35] <monah> sudo apt install rtlwifi-new-dkms linux-firmware
[15:35] <monah> E: Unable to locate package rtlwifi-new-dkms
[15:36] <KTrad> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hanipouspilot/rtlwifi
[15:36] <KTrad> try that first
[15:36] <KTrad> then sudo apt update
[15:36] <monah> ok
[15:38] <monah> E: Unable to locate package rtlwifi-new-dkms
[15:38] <monah> i got that message
[15:38] <KTrad> :/
[15:38] <KTrad> try rebooting
[15:38] <monah> even after upgrading my ppa
[15:38] <monah> ok
[15:38] <KTrad> after all the changes probably for the best anyways
[15:38] <AtSchool> Im trying to install PrestaShop , when i start the page to install the program its just poping up the loading bar and restart and its looping like that
[15:39] <KTrad> https://www.prestashop.com/forums/topic/570830-ps-17-install-leads-to-an-infinite-redirect-loop/   Similar to that AtSchool ?
[15:40] <KTrad> I'm not familiar with prestashop unfortunately
[15:42] <KTrad> have you looked at using PrestaShop cloud? It looks to be completely free
[15:42] <monah> actually
[15:43] <monah> it sees my card but can´t connect to my modem
[15:43] <KTrad> Can it see the wireless network though?
[15:43] <monah> it sees it
[15:43] <KTrad> ok good
[15:43] <AtSchool> thanks im reading
[15:43] <monah> but when i put in my
[15:43] <monah> password wifi
[15:43] <monah> it wont connect
[15:44] <monah> and it only sees my wifi
[15:44] <KTrad> Is the signal really low?
[15:44] <monah> no
[15:44] <monah> yeahh
[15:44] <monah> sorry
[15:44] <KTrad> echo "options rtl8723be ant_sel=2"  | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf
[15:44] <monah> it only marks one bar
[15:44] <KTrad> try that in terminal and reboot
[15:45] <monah> ok
[15:45] <KTrad> That is supposed to fix the low signal issue
[15:45] <monah> options rtl8723be ant_sel=2
[15:45] <monah> now i ll reboot
[15:47] <monah> well the same thing
[15:47] <monah> trying to connect
[15:48] <monah> but than pops me up the little window to enter my password
[15:48] <monah> when i do that\
[15:48] <monah> it wont connect
[15:48] <monah> it pops it up everytime
[15:48] <KTrad> Any specific error? Kind of frustrating you can finally see it but can't connect -.-
[15:49] <monah> like now its trying to connect to wifi
[15:49] <monah> even if i m on cable
[15:50] <KTrad> https://askubuntu.com/questions/776341/wifi-password-can-be-entered-but-wont-connect-with-no-error-message
[15:50] <KTrad> try disconnecting from cable before connecting to wifi
[15:51] <monah> ok
[15:51] <KTrad> https://askubuntu.com/questions/776341/wifi-password-can-be-entered-but-wont-connect-with-no-error-message/811293
[15:51] <KTrad> more info on that link
[15:51] <KTrad> seems to be an issue
[15:52] <monah> ok
[15:55] <KTrad> if that doesn't work monah I'm all out of ideas other than a fresh install and directly installing from the PPA. It is possible there are some remnants from when you tried to compile yourself sticking around somewhere.
[15:58] <monah> ok thank you
[15:59] <KTrad> lunch time bbl
[16:35] <KTrad> back
[17:49] <jaiken> hello


[03:08] <glitchd> anyone know why all of a sudden my install doesnt want to display in the correct resolution by default, and i have to use xrandr manually to change it to the correct resolution?
[03:09] <glitchd> this just started happening in the last few hours
[03:09] <glitchd> and i havent changed anything
[03:09] <glitchd> or installed anything
[10:27] <bailey> hello?
[10:28] <bailey> I don't know if this is connected to anything but if it is could someone please help me with installing xubuntu?
[10:29] <bailey> I can get it to install but then it asks me to restart the computer and when I do I go back to the install screen
[10:30] <Spass> bailey, hello, maybe you just need to remove your installation media?
[10:31] <Spass> DVD or USB
[10:31] <bailey> I tried that earlier, it just went to a screen of error failures
[10:33] <Spass> Seems like a broken installation, but you will have to tell us more about those errors.
[10:35] <bailey> ok, just restarted and it says that I have to reboot and select proper boot device
[10:36] <Spass> You need to boot from a drive where you installed your boot manager (GRUB).
[10:36] <Spass> Do you have multiple disks or operating systems on your computer?
[10:37] <bailey> no, during the install i selected theboption where it deleted windows to replace it with xubuntu
[10:39] <bailey> how do I boot from the drive where I installed GRUB?
[10:42] <Spass> You can choose your boot device in BIOS (or using a shortcut key during the boot).
[10:44] <bailey>  in the change boot order section?
[10:45] <Spass> Yes. Try to boot from your hard drive first, that one with Xubuntu.
[10:45] <Spass> And if that doesn't work tell us more about that "screen of error failures".
[10:45] <bailey> thats what it is set to
[10:46] <bailey> hdd/ssd then usb then odd then lan
[10:51] <Spass> OK, what are those errors you see after boot? What version of Xubuntu are you installing? 16.04 or 17.10? 32-bit or 64-bit? Is your computer old or fairly new?
[10:52] <bailey> I cnat find the errors anymkre, I am installing 16.04 64-bit an d my computer is from around 2014, a sattelite c-50b
[10:53] <bailey> when I start up the computer I am in the install screen area
[10:54] <bailey> there are 4 options, try xubuntu, install xubuntu, oem install and check disc for defects
[10:54] <bailey> when I click install xubuntu it goes through the install process
[10:55] <bailey> but once it goes to the end it tells me to restart the computer to finosh installing somethinv (or something similar, i cant remember exactly.
[10:55] <bailey> and once I restart it goes back to the beginning
[10:58] <bailey> I also selected the download updates whille installing xubuntu and the install third party software options
[10:59] <Spass> I was asking about your computer, because sometimes users are trying to install 64-bit system on a 32-bit processors, but it seems like all processors used in Toshiba C50 laptops are 64-bit, so that's OK.
[11:01] <Spass> Remove your installation media, reboot and tell us what error/message you can see on your screen.
[11:02] <bailey> reboot and select proper boot device
[11:02] <bailey> or insety boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[11:12] <Spass> For some reason it doesn't see your Xubuntu installation at all, you can try to install again and choose "Something else" on Installation type screen and try to select partitions and device for boot loader manually.
[11:15] <Spass> As a fallback you can try to install Xubuntu 16.04.4 32-bit, but I don't really know what can be a problem here, sorry. Try to wait for someone with bigger experience/knowledge to help you.
[11:16] <bailey> its okay, thanks for helping, just quickly though, when you say to select partitions an device manually what should I actually do?
[11:17] <Spass> I'll send you a screen wait a second.
[11:19] <bailey> also, it says the ubuntk file is in an ext4, shoild I make that into a reserved bios boot area?
[11:21] <Spass> You should then see something like that - https://i.imgur.com/LZ9gafu.jpg
[11:22] <Spass> Double click your current /dev/sda1 ext4 partition, and format it again as Ext4 and choose / mount point, install your boot loader at /dev/sda
[11:27] <bailey> okay, im going to try it
[11:27] <bailey> hope it works
[11:27] <Spass> If it still doesn't help you can try to do the same, but install boot loader at /dev/sda1 (choose it from list at the bottom), and after that you can try 32-bit version or some other distribution to test/install.
[11:28] <Spass> BTW, before that did your Windows installation worked? Is your hard drive working fine?
[11:28] <bailey> okay, its saying nk root file system is defined?
[11:29] <bailey> yeah, it worked fine if a little slow
[11:29] <bailey> thats why I decided to switch to xubuntu
[11:30] <Spass> You need to choose your "/" mount point, that's what your root system is.
[11:31] <Spass> Like on the screen I sent you.
[11:34] <bailey> okay, its going through
[11:34] <bailey> lets see if it decides to work this time
[11:35] <bailey> thanks again for your help spass
[11:40] <Spass> It's bad that you got this experience with installing Xubuntu, but I hope you have some patience to investigate further and test some other options. And as much as I love Xubuntu, you can try to install other distros too.
[11:42] <Spass> And if you can, stay in this channel for a while, maybe someone had similar problem with 16.04 recently.
[11:43] <bailey> I would but its starting to get rather late over here
[11:43] <bailey> anyway, thanks yet again for your help
[11:44] <Spass> No problem, cheers.
[15:29] <Draconiator> I'm trying to figure out which Linux distro would be perfectly fine on a 2GB SD card used as an SSD
[17:33] <anonnumberanon> Hi I have a problem with the latest Xubuntu that I just installed. When i put the mouse pointer to the corner of the window to resize it, it takes a long time to find the right vector of resizing between side, up-down, diagonal, when what I want is diagonal. I tried to changed border.width in the themerc file already, to no avail, anyone with this issue who fixed it?
[18:34] <ne1uno> anonnumberanon I think the default theme has a one pixel grab target. I found after searching explitive deleted hard to grab windows xubuntu, change or edit theme. not sure why anyone thinks it's fun to have frustration as a default
[18:35] <ne1uno> btw, practically my only complaint so far. everything else was pretty smooth
[18:41] <knome> anonnumberanon, ne1uno: https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[18:46] <ne1uno> knome:  thanks, that puts all the workarounds in one place, but doesn't explain why there doesn't need to be larger targets even if transparent. the page is proof people have a problem with it out of the box. why the need to educate people to use inferior grabbing methods? it's a we know best attitude where nobody wins and 5 years is a really long time  for developers not to get it
[18:46] <knome> ne1uno, well you are welcome to contribute the code required to make it work obviously
[18:46] <knome> or in other words, this is not really trivial as xfwm has no support for this
[18:47] <ne1uno> point taken, though just changing to a theme with larger grabbers solves the short term problem and might have been put as the prefered fix as well. someone is in love with their theme and doesn't want to change it?
[18:49] <ne1uno> somewhat weird as I say because everything else about the installation and usage so far in my casual use has been fantastic.
[18:49] <knome> work on greybird-a11y (accessibility) with bigger window borders has been started, but tbh this hasn't been the top priority
[18:50] <knome> ideally we'd like bigger resize areas without making the actual window borders larger
[18:50] <anonnumberanon> I see
[18:50] <anonnumberanon> not a deal breaker
[18:50] <knome> but this isn't solvable from the theme point of view
[18:50] <anonnumberanon> i wish I used Alt more so this would feel more natural to use the Alt+Right Click+Move Mouse
[18:51] <anonnumberanon> but it's probably my favorite way out of all alternatives on this page
[18:51] <knome> you should look at the other window manager shortcuts you can use with alt too, maybe that'll make you get used to using alt ;)
[18:52] <knome> alt+left-click-drag moves windows too
[18:52] <knome> and you can even change the modified key to, say, super (windows key on most keyboards)
[19:25] <ondondil> Is it possible to set subtitle delay with parole?
[21:15] <RoadRunner> hard disk  full (don't know with what) and "sudo apt-get clean" doesn't liberate any more space.  Help?
[22:24] <RoadRunner> is ssh server a part of the default xubuntu 16.04 install?
[22:27] <Unit193> Server? No.
[22:31] <RoadRunner> is it hard to install?
[22:32] <terminalator> sudo apt install openssh-server
[22:34] <RoadRunner> seems simple enough, is it a big app?
[22:36] <terminalator> 903 kB
[22:58] <RoadRunner> is there a decent visual disk space usage app like Treepie or WinDirStat under Win?
[23:00] <flipper887> How do I remove unneeded language packs?
[23:06] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: baobab
[23:06] <tomreyn> flipper887: you identify the packages and uninstall them.
[23:10] <flipper887> tomreyn, I just reinstall every time the amdgpu-pro-drivers break my installs
[23:11] <tomreyn> flipper887: this also works fro removing unneeded language packs. although it can seema little over the top.


[03:11] <callmepk> good morning
[03:24] <duflu> Morning callmepk
[03:37] <callmepk> hi duflu
[05:18] <jibel> good morning all
[05:31] <duflu> Morning jibel
[05:32] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:33] <jibel> salut oSoMoN duflu
[05:33] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[05:34] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[05:34] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[06:11] <callmepk> hi jibel oSoMoN
[06:20] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk
[06:22] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:22] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[06:22] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, ça va bien, et toi?
[06:22] <seb128> ça va mieux !
[06:23] <ricotz> hellsworth, callmepk oSoMoN seb128
[06:23] <ricotz> oops
[06:23] <ricotz> hello ^ :)
[06:23] <oSoMoN> hellotz rico :)
[06:24] <jibel> Hi callmepk seb128 ricotz
[06:24] <ricotz> autocompletion of "hello" didn't work ;P
[06:24] <callmepk> hello ricotz and seb128
[06:29] <KGB-0> gnome-settings-daemon ubuntu/master 8693f9f Steve Langasek debian/ changelog patches/ubuntu/keyboard-Use-ibus-sources-from-locale.patch * Import Debian changes 40.0.1-1ubuntu3 * https://deb.li/iiysg
[06:29] <KGB-0> gnome-settings-daemon tags fe499b2 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/40.0.1-1ubuntu3 * Debian release 40.0.1-1ubuntu3 * https://deb.li/jCdz
[06:31] <seb128> hey ricotz jibel callmepk
[06:32] <duflu> Morning seb128 and ricotz
[06:49] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[06:51] <duflu> seb128, feeling good. You?
[06:51] <seb128> I'm alright thanks!
[06:52] <didrocks> good morning
[06:53] <jibel> salut didrocks
[06:57] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[06:57] <didrocks> hey jibel, duflu
[07:09] <seb128> lut didrocks
[07:09] <didrocks> hey seb128
[07:20] <duflu> juergh, do you know anything about the Pi meeting changing? It seems the event was deleted
[07:21] <duflu> which I think is easy to do by accident
[07:22] <juergh> duflu, which one?
[07:22] <duflu> juergh, the monthly one
[07:24] <ogra> duflu, perhaps because https://t.co/t3hOWfc8N3?amp=1 ?
[07:25] <ogra> (i know he ran that once)
[07:25] <juergh> duflu, hrm. looks like it's gone indeed. let me ask around.
[08:40] <duflu> juergh, we were too late to recreate it so try again next month
[08:51] <juergh> duflu, ack
[13:11] <Wimpy> Hello desktoppers o/
[13:11] <Wimpy> seb128: I spoke with Ayatana team.
[13:11] <Wimpy> That lomiri-url-dispatcher entanglement with applaunch and Mir will be fixed with upcoming Ayatana Indicators 0.9.x and will be released for Ubuntu 22.04
[13:12] <Wimpy> Upstream releases are close for 0.9.x Ayatana Indicators components. Probably during second half of October.
[13:36] <charafau[m]> jpnurmi:  thanks for merging and sorry for being so slow! lots of stuff is happening lately
[13:37] <jpnurmi> charafau[m]: no worries :)
[13:38] <charafau[m]> I need to finish slides page next, but it's mostly done
[13:39] <jpnurmi> charafau[m]: i think i already asked, but was there any more input needed from the design team?
[13:40] <charafau[m]> from what I remember it's fine
[13:42] <jpnurmi> ok, let me know when it's ready for a review
[13:43] <jpnurmi> i'm not sure but i think we might not yet be able to get more granular progress info than status changes from subiquity
[14:01] <seb128> Wimpy, hey, great, it seems be should delete those syncs from impish-proposed and hopefully the new versions are in Debian by time next cycle start and we sync them over at archive opening
[14:17] <Wimpy> seb128: Yes, those sync requests can be deleted.
 "i'm not sure but i think we..." <- time to commit to subiquity ;)
[16:07] <KGB-0> gnome-settings-daemon ubuntu/master 5e5e9d2 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/ubuntu/keyboard-Use-ibus-sources-from-locale.patch * Drop mai_IN and sd_IN from keyboard-Use-ibus-sources-from-locale.patch * https://deb.li/3oGFj
[23:36] <KGB-0> gnome-chess signed tags 6ab6b44 Jeremy Bicha upstream/41.0 * Upstream version 41.0 * https://deb.li/1P1x
[23:37] <KGB-0> gnome-chess upstream/latest 1677177 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 32 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3DPSh
[23:37] <KGB-0> gnome-chess upstream/latest bb7c28e Rafael Fontenelle help/meson.build * https://deb.li/BWQ2
[23:37] <KGB-0> Help: fix image installation
[23:37] <KGB-0>
[23:37] <KGB-0> Update filename in meson.build to fix regression by d987e798
[23:37] <KGB-0> gnome-chess upstream/latest 54eae7c Jordi Mas help/ca/ca.po * Update Catalan translation * https://deb.li/3Tq9C
[23:37] <KGB-0> gnome-chess upstream/latest afa43bc Jordi Mas po/ca.po * Update Catalan translation * https://deb.li/L1pU
[23:37] <KGB-0> gnome-chess upstream/latest 894ab3b Jordi Mas po/ca.po * Update Catalan translation * https://deb.li/31gbF
[23:37] <KGB-0> gnome-chess upstream/latest 53378f2 Charles Monzat help/fr/ fr.po figures/gnome-chess-40.png figures/gnome-chess-3-32.png * Updated French help translation * https://deb.li/Dyd4
[23:38] <KGB-0> gnome-chess pristine-tar 00bcb2a Jeremy Bicha gnome-chess_41.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-chess_41.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-chess_41.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3iyH7
[23:44] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser signed tags 5fa767b Jeremy Bicha upstream/41.0 * Upstream version 41.0 * https://deb.li/3lgeA
[23:44] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 4a0791b Jeremy Bicha * pushed 18 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/lP9c
[23:44] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 75bf28b Efstathios Iosifidis po/el.po * Update Greek translation * https://deb.li/3EyWy
[23:44] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 00b8dde Goran Vidović po/hr.po * Update Croatian translation * https://deb.li/5qXG
[23:44] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser upstream/latest b40558f Michael Catanzaro embed/ephy-about-handler.c src/resources/about.css * Fix several icons broken in !975 * https://deb.li/35j00
[23:44] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 4bf8e7a Boyuan Yang po/zh_CN.po * Update Chinese (China) translation * https://deb.li/PWlz
[23:45] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 2d3de3b ChangSeok Oh po/ko.po * Update Korean translation * https://deb.li/3JqAs
[23:45] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser pristine-tar b07aa32 Jeremy Bicha epiphany-browser_41.0.orig.tar.xz.delta epiphany-browser_41.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for epiphany-browser_41.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3ngLM


[00:10] <duanedesign> hello Vishal
[00:10] <Vishal> hey duane
[00:11] <Vishal> do u have experience with ubuntu on asus netbooks?
[00:14] <duanedesign> what application are you using to test the webcam.?
[00:14] <Vishal> Cheese Webcam Booth
[00:22] <duanedesign> Vishal: that is a good one to test with
[00:23] <Vishal> yea that's what i read. i'm not sure if i installed the OS incorrectly or if i just need to install some drivers
[00:25] <duanedesign> Vishal: open a Terminal and type
[00:26] <duanedesign> gstreamer-properties
[00:26] <duanedesign> this will open a window. Select the video tab
[00:27] <duanedesign> Vishal: you can try a few different input options and hit 'Test' to see if they help
[00:29] <Vishal> thanks. just gave it a shot. says device does not exist
[00:40] <Vishal> duanedesign: have i installed it incorrectly?
[01:39] <SailorSean> Evening all.. i am having an issue with my xsession
[01:41] <SailorSean> when i open a virtual console (cntrl, alt , f2) i cant get back to the gui with cntrl, alt, f7
[01:41] <SailorSean> and the console locks up so that i am no longer able to enter commands
[01:42] <SailorSean> the only thing that i have been able to do is power off from the power button
[01:43] <SailorSean> using lucid with gnome
[01:47] <ibuclaw> SailorSean, Nvidia graphics card?
[01:47] <SailorSean> nope... dell laptop.. it worked fine with karmic
[01:49] <ibuclaw> SailorSean, dell laptop, OK. But do you know the graphics card model?
[01:49] <SailorSean> umm let me look it up...
[01:49] <ibuclaw> there have been some changes to drivers - most notably Nvidia uses the Nouveau driver.
[01:50] <ibuclaw> switching to a VT and back to X caused issues on some cards in the Alpha/Beta stages.
[01:51] <SailorSean> is there a way to see what driver ubuntu auto installed?
[01:57] <SailorSean> ibuclaw: its an ATI 128 MB card
[02:08] <ibuclaw> SailorSean, I can't seem to see anything noted about that issue with ATI cards.
[02:08] <ibuclaw> welcome hot6ft2_ :)
[02:08] <ibuclaw> SailorSean, is there any reason why you must switch to a VT?
[02:09] <krhahn> Hello...  I just upgraded to 10.04 and now the scroll bar on my mouse pad does not work.  any ideas?
[02:09] <SailorSean> no... i was just going through some ubuntu lessons in the beginners guide
[02:10] <SailorSean> i guess i will just stay off the vt
[02:10] <ibuclaw> krhahn, in System -> Preferences -> Mouse, what are the touchpad settings set to?
[02:11] <ibuclaw> SailorSean, for the moment yes. Though, FYI, you should be able to reboot safely using Ctrl+Alt+Del if you have successfully switched to the VT.
[02:12] <SailorSean> i will give that a shot.. thanks.... maybe a bug report ibucalw?
[02:12] <phillw> SailorSean: , shhs, don't tell any one but http://ubuntu-manual.org/ is looking good ;-)
[02:12] <krhahn> edge scrolling is enabled so is disable mouse pad when typing and enable mouse clicks with touch pad
[02:12] <ibuclaw> SailorSean, there is more than likely one there, but you can raise one using then command: ubuntu-bug
[02:13] <SailorSean> thanks!!
[02:15] <krhahn> ibuclaw: edge scrolling is enabled so is disable mouse pad when typing and enable mouse clicks with touch pad
[02:16] <ibuclaw> SailorSean, have a look here for various debugging procedures and finding out which application to file the bug under. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging
[02:17] <ibuclaw> krhahn, and all works OK but scrolling...
[02:17] <SailorSean> sweet ibuclaw
[02:18] <krhahn> not exactly...  If i click the button to freeze the mouse then unclick it the mouse stays frozen.  Otherwise i can use the mouse pad fine
[02:19] <ibuclaw> krhahn, can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf - if it exists
[02:20] <ibuclaw> !pastebin
[02:20] <krhahn> ibuclae bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[02:21] <krhahn> typo...  sorry
[02:21] <krhahn> no such directory
[02:22] <ibuclaw> krhahn, no worries, you should have a /var/log/Xorg.0.log file then
[02:23] <ibuclaw> krhahn, open it with ie: gedit
[02:23] <ibuclaw> krhahn, and paste output in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:23] <ibuclaw> and post the link here
[02:25] <ibuclaw> krhahn, my hunch is that X is autodetecting the wrong mouse driver. (ie: ALPS) instead of what it should be using (mouse). If this is the case, creating an xorg.conf file should remedy and explicitly specifying the driver should remedy the issue.
[02:25] <krhahn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/426164/
[02:25] <krhahn> sorry for the delay
[02:25] <krhahn> my connection seems painfully slow tonight
[02:25] <ibuclaw> krhahn, take as long as you like.
[02:26] <ibuclaw> hurry down. =)
[02:26] <ibuclaw> or up...
[02:29] <krhahn> ibuclaw: here is the paste bin link http://paste.ubuntu.com/426164/
[02:34] <krhahn> hello?
[02:35] <SailorSean> krhahn.. give him a few... ibuclaw is pretty thorough when investigating a link for you
[02:36] <krhahn> k...  thanks!
[02:39] <ibuclaw> krhahn, OK, you may want to make a note of this.
[02:39] <ibuclaw> save and close any work, then logout
[02:39] <ibuclaw> once logged out, switch to a VT by pressing "Ctrl+Alt+F1"
[02:39] <ibuclaw> and login through there
[02:40] <ibuclaw> stop X using the command:  sudo service gdm stop
[02:40] <ibuclaw> then create a X config file:  sudo X -configure
[02:41] <ibuclaw> then open it for editing:  nano xorg.conf.new
[02:41] <ibuclaw> look for a "InputDevice" section where the identifier is "Mouse0", or something to that effect in name
[02:42] <ibuclaw> You should see a Driver line. Ensure it says:
[02:42] <ibuclaw> Driver    "mouse"
[02:42] <ibuclaw> and save and exit if needs be.
[02:42] <cprofitt> hello guys
[02:42] <cprofitt> anyone good with figuring out issues with sound?
[02:43] <ibuclaw> krhahn, then run:  sudo cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:43] <ibuclaw> and reboot by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del
[02:43] <ibuclaw> krhahn, what graphics card do you have btw?
[02:44] <krhahn> kinda a new at this...  how do i find this?
[02:47] <krhahn> sorry...  What is the best way to look up my graphics card?
[02:48] <ibuclaw> krhahn, lspci
[02:48] <ibuclaw> krhahn, and look for "VGA compatible controller"
[02:49] <krhahn> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[02:49] <ibuclaw> intel driver. yeah, should have little worries with that then, touch wood. :)
[02:50] <krhahn> okay...  off i go!
[02:50] <cprofitt> If anyone has a link to a page to troubleshoot not having rear speakers I would appreciate it -- the fixes used for 9.04/9.10 appear to no longer work under 10.04
[02:50] <ibuclaw> cprofitt, you mean the ALSA thread in ubuntuforums ?
[02:51] <cprofitt> anything... I have a snd_hda_intel
[02:51] <cprofitt> and the rear speakers are not working
[02:51] <cprofitt> the fixes for 9.04/9.10 do not work for 10.04
[02:51] <cprofitt> pisses me off this has not been fixed yet
[02:52] <cprofitt> makes it worse when fixes from previous version no longer work
[02:53] <nigelbabu> cprofitt: did you talk to dan?
[02:54] <cprofitt> no,... I do not know dan
[02:54] <nigelbabu> cprofitt: hunt down daniel T chen aka crimsun, there is some ppa for audio bugs
[02:55] <nigelbabu> cprofitt: #ubuntu-audio-help
[02:55] <ibuclaw> I seem to have hecklers...
[02:56] <ibuclaw> !away phill_sleep
[02:56] <phill_sleep> ibuclaw: ??
[02:56] <nigelbabu> nhandler: where is votebot?
[02:56] <ibuclaw> phill_sleep, rather than changing your nick, simply use /away
[02:56] <cprofitt> gah -- got it working...
[02:57] <cprofitt> now to make it stick...
[02:57] <nigelbabu> cprofitt: yaay! what happened?
[02:57] <ibuclaw> cprofitt, muted in alsamixer? :)
[02:57] <cprofitt> I killed pulseaduio and restarted it
[02:57]  * ibuclaw does that all that time
[02:57] <nigelbabu> aha!
[02:57] <cprofitt> ibuclaw: no -- I know to look for that crap... tried all the model crap in the conf file...
[02:57] <phill_sleep> :'( sorry, i will alter it, I didn't realise I was breaking room protocol
[02:57] <cprofitt> got pissed and nuked pulse...
[02:58] <nigelbabu> phill_sleep: its part of ubuntu guidelines I believe
[02:58] <cprofitt> so... no have to see if it survies a reboot
[02:58] <ibuclaw> phill_sleep, it's also a form of flooding.
[02:58]  * phill_sleep easier
[02:58] <nigelbabu> that works too ;)
[02:59] <cprofitt> survived boot
[02:59] <cprofitt> that has no explanation...
[02:59] <cprofitt> gah!
[02:59] <nigelbabu> haha
[02:59] <ibuclaw> sudo lsof /dev/snd/*
[03:01] <ibuclaw> anyways... may head off to work on parser generator.
[03:08] <krhahn> ibuclaw:  I'm back.  I think i may have written something down wrong with the instructions you gave me.  what is the x-config command?
[03:08] <krhahn> I kept getting an error
[03:09] <krhahn> and I tried a lot of different configurations of the comand
[03:09] <krhahn> what i wrote down was sudo X-configure
[03:09] <ibuclaw> sudo X -configure
[03:09] <cprofitt> alright folks...
[03:09] <cprofitt> now it is time to upgrade the laptop...
[03:09] <krhahn> space after the X?
[03:10] <ibuclaw> krhahn, forgot the space, yes :)
[03:10] <cprofitt> see ya in a few after I get my desktop setup with irssi again
[03:10] <krhahn> okay...    Thanks
[03:20] <krhahn> ibuclaw: I ran through the steps but the scroll bar is still not working...  When I tried to save the changes in xorg.conf.new it asked me i f i wanted to save it using a different name i chose no then it took me right back to the same line. I then hit ctr+alt+del is this right?
[03:21] <krhahn> And i changed the input device to Mouse withe a capital "M"
[03:25] <ibuclaw> krhahn, in nano?
[03:25] <krhahn> yes
[03:25] <ibuclaw> to save and quit, it is: Ctrl+X
[03:26] <ibuclaw> press 'Y' to say "yep, I want to save"
[03:26] <ibuclaw> and 'Enter' to confirm filenae
[03:26] <ibuclaw> file name
[03:27] <krhahn> yeah...  i did all of that but it didn't seem to want to save though maybe it did.  Not sure
[03:27] <ibuclaw> krhahn, ok, no worries. You should be able to see the file in your home directory anyway
[03:27] <ibuclaw> you can open via double clicking on it. (will open gedit)
[03:28] <krhahn> hmm... the change didn;t take
[03:28] <krhahn> should i try again?
[03:29] <krhahn> InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
[03:29] <ibuclaw> krhahn, yeah, you shouldn't need to kill X this time. :)
[03:29] <ibuclaw> krhahn, is there is a Driver line ?
[03:30] <krhahn> would it be something like kbd?
[03:30] <krhahn> for the driver that is?
[03:31] <ibuclaw> krhahn, tell you what, copy and paste the entire file into a pastebin, I can probably review it much quicker. http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:31] <ibuclaw> as in, if I can see what you see, can point it out to you. :)
[03:32] <krhahn> got it... here you go
[03:32] <krhahn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/426189/
[03:32] <ibuclaw> Driver      "mouse"
[03:33] <krhahn> so is that correct?
[03:33] <ibuclaw> I say there is nothing visibly wrong with that sir, so it seems X is auto probing correctly
[03:33] <ibuclaw> only one way to test it out.
[03:33] <ibuclaw> krhahn, you can close the file
[03:33] <krhahn> okay
[03:33] <ibuclaw> then open a terminal:  Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[03:34] <ibuclaw> then:   sudo cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:34] <ibuclaw> and then reboot.
[03:34] <ibuclaw> krhahn, before you do. if you get any issues during the reboot...
[03:34] <ibuclaw> reboot again and hold down SHIFT
[03:34] <ibuclaw> this will show the Ubuntu boot menu
[03:35] <ibuclaw> select the "Recovery Mode" option
[03:36] <krhahn> okay
[03:36] <ibuclaw> this will bring you to a blue/gray screen menu list, scroll down and select "root" - Drop to root shell prompt
[03:36] <krhahn> Off I go
[03:36] <ibuclaw> enter
[03:36] <ibuclaw> then:  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:36] <ibuclaw> and:   init 2
[03:37] <ibuclaw> shouldn't be needed, but that is just incase. :)
[03:37] <krhahn> okay...  Thanks for everything!
[03:38] <ibuclaw> if it doesn't work - something much deeper is the issue...
[04:05] <kine_> Hi guys! does anyone how i can send or receive file using Konversation on ubuntu? it says DCC failed
[04:05] <kine_> thanks in advance
[04:06] <pedro3005> that happens to me too
[04:06] <pedro3005> on xchat
[04:19] <Francis> Can someone please help me w/ the problem in my browser?
[04:20] <Francis> when I close my browser and open a new one, this message pops up: Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[04:21] <Francis> :(
[04:21] <Francis> then I can't open my browser anymore so I have to restart my Computer :(
[04:22] <Francis> anyone? :s
[04:23] <Francis> I guess I'm gonna have to go back tomorrow :( g'nite guys
[04:31] <ddecator> ah, i coulda helped with that..
[04:31] <LzrdKing> can you help me coerce dell into honoring their extended warranty for nvidia gpu failures?
[04:33] <LzrdKing> ddecator: ^^
[04:33] <ddecator> i'm not exactly the best person for something like that, haha
[04:33] <LzrdKing> who is?
[04:35] <LzrdKing> ddecator:
[04:35] <ddecator> idk...i've never seen someone ask to help with a warranty before
[04:36] <LzrdKing> ok, thanks
[07:59] <Thomas__> please tell me how do I upgrade my ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 via a cd
[09:22] <user_> hello
[09:23] <user_> is there any boday to help how can install live messenger on wine
[09:23] <user_> or can any let me know how to run wine on ubuntu
[09:24] <piskie> to run wine - wine nameofwinthing.exe
[09:25] <piskie> no idea live messenger - try one of the linux packages like empathy or pidgin
[09:26] <user_> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winthing.exe"
[09:26] <user_> piskie this is the error when i type the command
[09:28] <piskie> well linux would not know what c:\ is
[09:28] <piskie> user_: nvm that :) what is it you are trying to run ?
[09:29] <piskie> morning Drecondius
[09:29] <Drecondius> I would lol
[09:29] <Drecondius> Morning
[09:29] <Drecondius> I myself am having a time with a debacle I've run into myself this morning.
[09:29] <Drecondius> And all of last night
[09:30] <user_> wine winthing.exe
[09:30] <Drecondius> Anybody know how to get pre 3355 version of UT2k4 to run on 10.04
[09:31] <Drecondius> I'm using the installer that is on the DVD to no avail, it will not "see" the mounted disc
[09:32] <piskie> user_: not everyhing will work with wine - and it is not really something I bothered much with tbh - if you are trying to run an exe that is in windows from inside linux try copying the exe to linux
[09:32] <piskie> Drecondius: I have no idea what that is - never heard of it
[09:32] <Drecondius> Unreal Tournament 2004
[09:33] <user_> ok
[09:33] <user_> and i have other problem
[09:33] <user_> that with add printer
[09:33] <piskie> Drecondius: oh a game ... is it a linux port or a win one
[09:33] <piskie> user_: printer make/model
[09:33] <user_> when i click printing there is no active add new printer
[09:34] <user_> it is network printer
[09:34] <user_> on ubuntu
[09:34] <piskie> the dialogue does notr appear or the printer is not recognised?
[09:34] <Drecondius> it has a native linux installer however when i run the script it makes it to running the base install then asks me to mount the cd of which 1. It's on DVD and 2. It's mounted
[09:35] <user_> no dialogue not appear
[09:35] <piskie> Drecondius: sorry - I am not going to be able to help with it  - have you looked in the games forum? I would guess that it is there somewhere
[09:35] <user_> on printing there is no active add new printer
[09:35] <piskie> what happens if you run system-config-printer from a terminal
[09:36] <user_> no
[09:36] <user_> graphice
[09:36] <user_> ubuntu graphic
[09:36] <Drecondius> Been All over the forum, Google, Yahoo, Ask, several meta searches and still nothing
[09:37] <piskie> Drecondius: sorry - I am not a game playing type of guy :(
[09:37] <Drecondius> tis ok. i'll see if i can find some help on one of the other channels
[09:38] <piskie> well hang about - or come back here at another time :)
[09:38] <piskie> I'll just have a quikc look anyway
[09:39] <user_> when i run sysytem-configur printer
[09:39] <user_> i can see the page but there is no any add printer to active
[09:42] <piskie> user_: the printer is not recognised?
[09:44] <piskie> nothing at select device - network printer - and repeating what I said earlier - what make and model
[09:45] <user_> there is no any add printer active to recognize or no
[09:48] <mongoosedog> hey guys i feel real idiot right now, i remove the volume control by mistake from the panel, i have tried to restart and searched a few forums but nothing seemed to help, i don't know what to add the the panel to get it back?
[09:48] <piskie> mongoosedog: notification area - or indicator applet depending
[09:49] <mongoosedog> i did that...
[09:49] <mongoosedog> i will triy again
[09:49] <piskie> well it should be in one of them :)
[09:50] <piskie> user_: I can;t help you
[09:50] <mongoosedog> indicator worked thank you
[09:51] <mongoosedog> notification did nothing lol
[09:51] <mongoosedog> that what i found on the forum
[09:51] <piskie> yea it moved in lucid to indicator applet
[09:52] <mongoosedog> lucid?
[09:52] <mongoosedog> is that the new version?
[09:52] <mongoosedog> with the purple backround
[09:52] <piskie> yes
[09:53] <piskie> might have been in indicator applet in the previous as well - can't remember now :)
[09:56] <mongoosedog> cool so next time i'm ask which version i have it's lucid now
[09:56] <mongoosedog> awesome
[10:04] <piskie> or 10.04 - possibly better depending on who you talk to :) I tend to run the developement version so I know them by the codename - but they are nearly always released in April or October so the versions are blah.04 or blah.10
[10:15] <van> hello, anybody has any idea why max sound is very low on 10.04 64-bit?
[10:17] <piskie> not here it isn't - try making sure all the necessary channels are up run alsamixer from a terminal
[10:18] <piskie> esc to quit
[10:18] <van> did that
[10:18] <piskie> sound preferences as well I assume then
[10:19] <van> if you mean system-preferences-sound, i tried that too
[10:19] <piskie> :(
[10:20] <piskie> what sound card?
[10:20] <van> :-X
[10:20] <piskie> and I also assume you checked the sound level in whatever app you are trying to use
[10:21] <van> yeap. how do i see my sound card?
[10:21] <piskie> lspci in a terminal
[10:22] <piskie> don't paste it all here - one of the lines will be audio
[10:22] <van> ATI Technologies Inc RV635 Audio device [Radeon HD 3600 Series]
[10:22] <piskie> sometimes I wish that my system didn't generally work ootb then I would not need to rely on memory do much for people :)
[10:23] <van> hm?
[10:24] <piskie> actually van - can you paste all of the lspci output to paste.ubuntu.com then hit paste and give me the url it gives you
[10:27] <van> http://paste.ubuntu.com/426327/
[10:29] <piskie> try this - open alsamixer again - then F6 and change soundcard see if that does it
[10:30] <piskie> if not maybe try turning off the onboard sound - looks like you have 2 soundcards there the radeon one and the intel one
[10:30] <piskie> anyway - I have to fly now for a few hours
[10:30] <van> how to turn off onboard sounds?
[10:31] <van> ok anyway, many thanks
[10:32] <piskie> reboot and enter bios - it will be one of the options somewhere - they are all slightly different
[10:33] <piskie> did F6 in alsamixer not help then - guess not ... :(
[10:34] <van> errm it definetely did help. :D
[10:34] <van> it's still not as loud as in windows, but it's almost as good:) thanks so much piskie
[10:34] <piskie> ok - it should let you change soundcards - if it had you need to check the levels in both cards
[10:35] <piskie> oh I read that wrong :)
[10:35] <piskie> excellent
[10:35] <van> hehe :)
[10:35] <piskie> I usually find it is called front channel needs upping as well as the PCM one
[10:35] <piskie> anyway - /me flies away
[10:36] <van> ok have fun :)
[10:58] <zeroseven0183> ping mohi!
[10:58] <zeroseven0183> ping mohi1
[10:58] <mohi1> :o
[10:58] <mohi1> hey zeroseven0183
[11:04] <zeroseven0183> mohi1: Was the issue of playing movies/videos resolved last time?
[11:05] <mohi1> nope. he left us when you departed =]
[11:10]  * mohi1 notes the IP of phillw
[11:11]  * phillw not sure what it is when I'm  here :-)
[11:11] <mohi1> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:12] <mohi1> phillw, you are off for about a day
[11:12] <zeroseven0183> mohi1: I see. I guess everything worked :-)
[11:13] <mohi1> hmmm ok zeroseven0183
[11:13] <phillw> oops, wrong button
[11:14] <mohi1> phillw, sleeping??
[11:14]  * phillw Grrr
[11:14]  * mohi1 points phillw and starts laughing
[11:15] <mohi1> not again
[11:15] <zeroseven0183> playing buttons?
[11:16] <phillw> nope, there is a bug on my computer, sometimes when I click the middle of a tab it closes it. Happens in FFox, Chromium and IRC. Had it ever since I put ubuntu 9.04 on :-(
[11:16] <mohi1> zeroseven0183, I think phillw is drunk
[11:17] <mohi1> phillw, you are comfortable with pidgin?
[11:19] <phillw> yeah, it's basic but looks after my MSN, AIM, Yahoo! accounts and IRC all in one package.
[11:19] <mohi1> cool
[11:19] <mohi1> brb
[11:21] <znxtch> just curious if i detect some suspicious behavior or identify an attack on my computer what courses of action can i take?
[11:22] <phillw> znxtch: I'd suggest reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=919472
[15:07] <Drecondius> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPP !!! I have Fried my Xorg configuration and no longer have 3d acceleration. what did i do wrong?
[15:08] <pedro3005> messed up the configuration that allows 3D acceleration?
[15:10] <mohi1> Drecondius, there??
[15:11] <Drecondius> yeah, im here sorry bout that
[15:11] <Drecondius> was in the #ubuntu channel too
[15:12] <mohi1> so you playedd with configuration??
[15:12] <Drecondius> I "tried" to install the newest drivers from Nvidia website to no avail. did a revert, had to reenable my restricted drivers. and still nothing, no I never touched the xorg.conf file
[15:13] <Drecondius> the xserver gave the option to revert to it, used it and now ........ blah
[15:13] <pedro3005> what exactly did you do to install the new drivers and what exactly did you do to revert?
[15:14] <Drecondius> ok, restarted into a netroot shell prompt to install the new drivers as it asks at telinit 3
[15:14] <Drecondius> rebooted
[15:14] <mohi1> afk. dinner
[15:14] <Drecondius> xserver stated that it was running in low graphics mode
[15:15] <Drecondius> chose to go with the backup file
[15:15] <Drecondius> o btw if it helps im using 10.04
[15:15] <pedro3005> did you actually install the drives?
[15:15] <pedro3005> drivers*
[15:16] <Drecondius> twice
[15:16] <Drecondius> the 195.36.24
[15:16] <pedro3005> compiling from source?
[15:16] <Drecondius> no
[15:16] <Drecondius> no source
[15:16] <Drecondius> proprietary
[15:17] <pedro3005> did you follow a tutorial or something?
[15:17] <Drecondius> i followed the instructions that were in the installer script
[15:19] <Drecondius> they did nothing so i used the "quick fix" option that the xserver gave me which was to use my xorg backup.
[15:19] <Drecondius> then upon that failing i went back into the repositories and installed the latest drivers
[15:19] <Drecondius> still no 3d
[15:21] <Drecondius> and compiling files and executables from source don't mix too well with me, even when there is a make file
[15:22] <Drecondius> And there's nothing about this in the forums yet.
[15:23] <pedro3005> Drecondius, hm.. have you ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[15:24] <Drecondius> no
[15:24] <Drecondius> ill do that now, reboot and be back in a flash
[15:24] <pedro3005> that will start reconfiguring your XORG
[15:25] <pedro3005> after you're done, come back and try to install the nvidia drivers from hardware drivers
[15:25] <Drecondius> now HERE's something funny
[15:26] <Drecondius> ubernoob@ubernoob-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[15:26] <Drecondius> [sudo] password for jerry:
[15:26] <Drecondius> Package `xserver.xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[15:26] <Drecondius> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[15:26] <Drecondius> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[15:26] <Drecondius> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver.xorg is not installed
[15:26] <pedro3005> Drecondius, xserver-xorg and not xserver.xorg
[15:27] <Drecondius> one moment
[15:27] <Drecondius> ok it isn't doing anything.
[15:28] <pedro3005> are you sure? what happens?
[15:29] <Drecondius> I enter the command, it pauses for about 1 second, then shows the prompt again right up under the command
[15:29] <pedro3005> starcraftman, did something change in 10.04 and nobody told me? :p I can't find updated documentation on this
[15:29] <Drecondius> neither can I
[15:29] <Drecondius> some LTS
[15:29] <starcraftman> pedro3005: what changed?
[15:30] <Drecondius> I believe the way the X-server is handled for one
[15:30] <starcraftman> hmmm, interesting, lemme see...
[15:31] <Drecondius> i'm tempted to simply do a fresh install but i will lose about 90gb worth of downloded libraries and other goodies
[15:31] <pedro3005> nah, you can fix it!
[15:32] <phillw> pedro3005: With 10.04 there is a new manual out, head over to http://ubuntu-manual.org/ for more details.
[15:32] <starcraftman> pedro3005: you are correct, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer seems to work.
[15:33] <Drecondius> Finally, Ubuntu for Beginners instead of for Dummies.
[15:36] <pedro3005> starcraftman, what's the "standard procedure" for xorg issues now?
[15:37] <starcraftman> pedro3005: I dunno, I haven't read what they've changed. Frankly, they keep making it more automated and it gets a lil harder doing manual fixes.
[15:38] <pedro3005> automated is good until it breaks
[15:38] <pedro3005> :p
[15:39] <Drecondius> Yup
[15:39] <Drecondius> such is the case with blandoze except when automated breaks, the entire system is gone
[15:42] <Drecondius> well, i know what i must do, /cry
[15:42] <Drecondius> too bad i didn't download the iso for 10.04, must install 9.10 then upgrade
[15:43] <pedro3005> starcraftman, what do you think?
[15:44] <Drecondius> I love 10.04 but my last try at ubuntu was 6.10
[15:45] <starcraftman> pedro3005: sorry been a bit busy, if you want to reinstall Ubuntu I'd recommend doing a clean install from a lucid cd. Boot karmic, download ISO and burn from it. Then install from there.
[15:45] <starcraftman> atm, I can't really offer better xorg advice. You may have better luck on forums.
[15:46] <Drecondius> no luck there either, checked. without anykind of reconfiguration options it's kind of dry
[15:47] <Drecondius> i mistyped that
[15:47] <Drecondius> grrr wrong button
[15:49] <Drecondius> and perhaps instead of having all the leftover junk from 9.10 and a squeaky clean install with an official release, that pesky x-server memory leak will be gone
[15:50] <geirha> Doesn't the driver from nvidia's website have an uninstall option?
[15:51] <geirha> It sounds like the newer driver (which isn't working) is still installed on your system.
[15:52] <starcraftman> lunch time, later people.
[16:00] <Drecondius> sorry bout the delay, actually for some odd reason there are about 4 drivers installed and none of them will uninstall other thant the one through the restricted driver manager
[16:02] <geirha> The one you downloaded from nvidia's website, what format was that?
[16:03] <geirha> .deb-file? .tar.gz-file? .bin-file?
[16:08] <geirha> Ok, seems to be a shell script, and it has an --uninstall option
[16:08] <geirha> Try running it with the --uninstall option
[16:20] <Drecondius> I promise i'm not ignoring anyone
[16:20] <Drecondius> i'll try that next reboot
[16:38] <piskie> anyone using awn and shiny desktp switcher - if so does it do what you tell it to when it is on the left or right or the desktop?
[16:45] <piskie> good day starcraftman
[16:46] <piskie> do you use or have used awn at all?
[16:48] <starcraftman> hi piskie and yes I have, at one point, though over time I got to just thinking docks were gimmicky, much like the wii.
[16:48] <piskie> as do I - quite useful in something like gnome-shell though - one applet is winding me right up though - I think it can see me pointing at it :(
[16:49] <starcraftman> that was an awful use of commas also.
[16:49] <piskie> how are you anway
[16:49] <piskie> starcraftman: it's the interwebs - who cares lol
[16:49] <starcraftman> hehehe
[16:50] <starcraftman> I guess. I'm doing not too bad, just a little annoyed. Atm two things aren't working for me. The most annoying atm is netbeans insisting on making _ invisible in the source editor. Why baffles me, that's highly confusing.
[16:51] <piskie> aaah - of course I would help if I could :)
[16:51] <starcraftman> piskie: and trying to fix u1 on kde is the other irritance. Less an immediate thing.
[16:52] <piskie> I don't use it
[16:54] <starcraftman> piskie: rgr, anyway apart from that well. I got great grades last semester. Just a lil bummed going back to school so soon starting tomorrow.
[16:55] <piskie> oh that is good news - well done you :)
[16:55] <piskie> I am thinking about going back for some post grad study, teacher training
[16:56] <starcraftman> piskie: you wanna teach at uni level?
[16:56] <piskie> no - secondary level
[16:56] <piskie> if I had thought about it before I could have stayed at uni done a masters and got into it that way
[16:57] <starcraftman> piskie: ah, ok then, be a good math/science teacher. We need better ones, and by we I mean students in general. Too many teachers for those know their stuff but fail to teach.
[16:58] <piskie> starcraftman: yep :)
[16:58] <pedro3005> piskie, what did you graduate in? I think I've asked but I forgot
[16:59] <piskie> hippy science
[16:59] <pedro3005> :p
[17:00] <starcraftman> piskie: The key to good teaching as I've observed is that it's more like theater then anything, being a good teacher involves captivating the audience and making them interested active learners.
[17:00] <starcraftman> Least all my good teachers are like that.
[17:01] <piskie> I agree with that
[17:02] <starcraftman> piskie: then I think you'll be a good teacher. :)
[17:03] <piskie> yep - I think so :)
[17:03] <piskie> back later - food to sort out :)
[17:04] <starcraftman> piskie: bye
[18:32] <Drecondius> I have returned.
[18:33] <Drecondius> Unfortunately I have to wait for this dl to finish.
[18:55] <Drecondius> Is anyone else having a problem with the Ubuntu Software Center not installing packages due to it coming from an untrusted source?
[18:55] <javatexan> anyone know what the default appearance theme is for 10.4?
[18:57] <Drecondius> with a fresh install, mine is Ambiance
[18:57] <javatexan> Drecondius: thanks.  Mine is left over from 9.10
[18:58] <javatexan> came in as custom
[18:58] <Drecondius> mine was too, i had to do a fresh install due to mucking up my xserver configuration
[18:58] <javatexan> ewwww
[18:59] <javatexan> I know the feeling, mine mucked up from 8.04 to 8.10....this one seems to have worked fairly well
[18:59] <Drecondius> i can only pray that i don't muck it up again, im gonna try to install the proprietary drivers one more time
[18:59] <javatexan> except my Wine developers ppa is not working....10.4 won't let it update :(
[18:59] <javatexan> those can be a problem, yes
[19:39] <van> hello, does anyone know anything about a delay in maximizing/minimising windows when "extra effects" are on? It didn't happen when I first installed so I'm guessing it must have something to do with an update,.,,
[19:57] <starcraftman> van hmmmmmmm, interesting. Checked compiz config settings manager?
[19:57] <van> Yeap. I think i'm not the only one with this problem...
[19:58] <starcraftman> van: have you tried reducing the texture filter to fast?
[19:58] <van> how do i do that?
[19:59] <starcraftman> van: settings manager > General Options > Display Settings > Texture filter > Fast
[19:59] <van> I'm sorry, settings manager?
[20:00] <starcraftman> compiz config settings manager, You have it installed no?
[20:00] <starcraftman> otherwise: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:01] <van> yes, but where is settings manager:S
[20:01] <starcraftman> System > Preferences > Compiz config settings manager.
[20:01] <van> ooh ok got it...:S
[20:02] <van> no change though
[20:09] <van> starcraftman: sorry, i managed to close the window by accident
[20:10] <van> starcraftman sorry, i managed to close the window by accident
[20:10] <starcraftman> van: sokay.
[20:11] <van> there is no delay when i change the visual effects to none:-$
[20:11] <starcraftman> van: maybe it's a driver issue then?
[20:11] <van> starcraftman would it have changed only after the update then
[20:11] <van> ?
[20:12] <van> starcraftman and what can i do if it is a driver problem?
[20:13] <starcraftman> van: have you updated your graphics drivers? What's your card anyway?
[20:16] <van> starcraftman: Radeon HD 3650 or at least i think that's it
[20:16] <starcraftman> k, that's enough, I used to run compiz off that.
[20:17] <van> starcraftman: it was ok with windows, so it should be ok with ubuntu
[20:17] <van> no ideas then?
[20:19] <van> I think the problem appeared after installing gstreamer010-ffmpeg
[20:19] <ddecator> it'd be very odd if that caused the problem
[20:20] <starcraftman> van: I'm not really sure how gstreamer (an audio back end) could impact compiz (graphics rendering).
[20:20] <van> well it's gone now and the problem persists
[20:20] <starcraftman> van: Go in compiz settings manager and look in Window management section.
[20:20] <van> Yes, i'm there
[20:21] <starcraftman> The plugins checked are ones in use, go thrue the options you have checked and look for delay time/ or any other time scale. See if reducing them makes a difference.
[20:21] <starcraftman> Might also have to do with plugins under Effects section.
[20:22] <van> checking...
[20:22] <starcraftman> its a bit of a hit or miss configuring compiz, trail and error ya know.
[20:22] <starcraftman> lot of ways for something to conflict.
[20:25] <van> that would make sense. but now i can't re-enable visual effects :(
[20:26] <van> starcraftman
[20:27] <starcraftman> van: you can't re-enable?
[20:28] <starcraftman> van: hmmmm, that's really odd. Go to options you changed and reset em to default.
[20:28] <van> starcraftman: i did it now, don't know hyow...
[20:28] <starcraftman> Otherwise something really fishy at work ><
[20:28] <van> maybe i should just reinstall,,,,again :(
[20:34] <van> starcraftman: i think i'm giving up...this is too annoying
[20:35] <starcraftman> van: sorry, these annoying things happen. Can't really offer specific advice. You might wanna check out the forums for a lil more help.
[20:37] <van> starcraftman: i did that already..maybe i'll just wait a bit. don't worry too much, reinstalling does not take too lon...i also have an easy one: i don't have a sound icon on my panel, how can i get it back?
[20:38] <ddecator> van: sound is part of the indicator-applet, so make sure it's on your panel (right-click, Add to panel)
[20:39] <van> ddecator: Thanks :)
[20:40] <ddecator> van: no problem =)
[20:40] <van> ddecator: but is there a way to get rid of the chats/mail icon?
[20:40] <ddecator> van: hm, good question. not that i know of offhand..
[20:42] <van> :)
[20:47] <van> do you guys dual boot or use ubuntu exclusively?
[20:48] <ddecator> i technically dual boot, but i just have windows for a few things (updating my phone and netflix instant watch)
[20:49] <van> I see...so you don't think it's a bad thing for someone like me, who doesn't know much, to use ubuntu exclusively?
[20:52] <ddecator> not at all. the only drawback is whether or not you need things that are windows-exclusive and won't run in wine. in the event that something breaks, you just need to know how to start a terminal and type in what support people ask you to =)
[20:53] <van> yeap the only windows-exclusive thing than i wanted i spotify, which already runs in wine :)
[20:54] <ddecator> i can't wait for spotify to come to the US..
[20:55] <van> i thought it started from the US, no?
[20:55] <ddecator> nope, europe. it's supposed to come to the US later this year
[20:56] <van> i see
[20:57] <ddecator> but anyway, ubuntu used to require some decent technical knowledge, but it's very user friendly now =)
[20:58] <van> Well i guess it's a matter of habbit. I am very confident with windows and linux frustrates me-but free is good :D
[20:59] <ddecator> i think you'll find in time that the frustration is mostly due to the transition. it's similar to windows people switching to macs. but after you are used to ubuntu, you'll love it =)
[20:59] <phillw> van: With 10.04 there is a new manual out, head over to http://ubuntu-manual.org/ for more details.
[21:00] <van> Oh yes, I'm sure it's because of that. I wouldn't be here if i didn't think so :)
[21:00] <van> thanks philw
[21:00] <van> thanks phillw
[22:14] <ShadowKnight> hey, i was trying to upgrade my ubuntu to the newest version but ive encountered some problems. my kernel image i think is messed up so i had to use the one previous to it.
[22:14] <ShadowKnight> and i get something that says error: brokencount > 0
[22:14] <pedro3005> hah
[22:16] <pedro3005> ShadowKnight, found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418182
[22:16] <phillw> ShadowKnight: I'm pretty sure that 9.10 kernel will not work with 10.04.
[22:16] <ShadowKnight> oh wow, so how come this one im using still works? o_O
[22:17] <ShadowKnight> what do you suggest i do pedro3005?
[22:17] <pedro3005> ShadowKnight, can't hurt to try what's in the link
[22:18] <ShadowKnight> k thanks ill give that a try
[22:20] <max1c> On my office PC after I install Graphics driver X.org 96 it automatically sets resolution to 640x480 and I can not change it because theres no other options rather than 640x480. It seems like its old monitor problem because if I connect my flat screen it sets resolution just fine. Is there any way i can manually set resolution to 1024x768 ?
[22:24] <ShadowKnight> pedro3005, i got this:
[22:24] <ShadowKnight> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b18-1.8-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/rt.jar')
[22:25] <pedro3005> ShadowKnight, looks like a failed upgrade to me
[22:26] <ShadowKnight> hmmm so what now? lol
[22:28] <pedro3005> ShadowKnight, hmmm, found this http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/upgrade-ubuntu-10.04
[22:28] <ShadowKnight> oh okay thanks pedro
[22:30] <pedro3005> hmm
[22:30] <pedro3005> wait
[22:30] <pedro3005> i didn't think that one through
[23:21] <Phrea> here's another 'uninformed' question from me
[23:21] <Phrea> how can I change the font size in Pidgin?
[23:21] <Phrea> I'm quite hard of seeing, and I cant find the option to change the size of the font used
[23:23] <lobinho> Phrea: my Pidgin is not in English, but it's probably:
[23:23] <lobinho> tools -> preferences -> conversations/chats (?) -> there's a font option
[23:23] <lobinho> that's in the main window, the contacts list
[23:24] <Phrea> yes, to change the font, but not it's size
[23:24] <lobinho> what do you mean? the size option is there as well
[23:24] <Phrea> hmmm...
[23:24] <Phrea> I'm not on that box atm, I'll check it later
[23:25] <Phrea> PM'ming myself that path
[23:25] <Phrea> you must be right, I've always thought it was strange that there was no way to change it's size
[23:25] <lobinho> maybe we use different versions? I don't think it would be missing in any version though
[23:26] <Phrea> lobinho: indeed
[23:26] <Phrea> it should just be there
[23:26] <Phrea> I'll check it later
[23:26] <lobinho> ok ;)
[23:26] <Phrea> this is why I'm a bit scared to leave windows :D
[23:26] <Phrea> this is the last box I have to convert [and I will do it !!]
[23:27] <lobinho> but there are a lot of options for any IM protocol
[23:27] <Phrea> normally yes, I just couldnt find this one
[23:27] <Phrea> and I really really need it
[23:28] <lobinho> Pidgin is just one of them (of course it connects to MANY protocols in one interface, but...)
[23:28] <Phrea> oh, you mean different programs
[23:28] <Phrea> yea, that too
[23:28] <Phrea> but I'm so used to Pidgin...
[23:28] <Phrea> maybe I'll give Empathy another try
[23:29] <Phrea> lobinho: I only need the one MSN protocol, nothing else
[23:29] <lobinho> I thought Gaim, Pidgin, Empathy and Telepathy were all one program that changed name over time o.o'
[23:29] <lobinho> since each Ubuntu version comes with one of them
[23:29] <Phrea> I dont think so
[23:29] <lobinho> oh, msn... why don't you try Mercury? its interface looks a lot like Windows Live Messenger
[23:30] <Phrea> I dont like that interface :D
[23:30] <lobinho> it has the very same emoticons, and even those... what do we call them, they're big onscreen animations...
[23:30] <Phrea> it's too... ...busy
[23:30] <Phrea> I like it simple
[23:30] <lobinho> lol, I agree XD
[23:30] <Phrea> although...
[23:30] <Phrea> I used to LOVE ICQ
[23:30] <Phrea> ...and that interface was even worse than MSN's ever was
[23:30] <Phrea> gheh
[23:31] <lobinho> the Pidgin in my box crashes randomly / often when connected to msn =/
[23:31] <Phrea> but ICQ died, at least in Europe and the US
[23:31] <Phrea> lobinho: ah, never had that problem
[23:32] <lobinho> and here in Brazil too, many years ago
[23:32] <Phrea> indeed
[23:32] <Phrea> used to love it tho...
[23:32] <Phrea> my first IM protocol :D
[23:33] <lobinho> I hated Ctrl+Enter for sending messages
[23:33] <Phrea> I used control-s I believe
[23:33] <Phrea> [to do it with one hand]
[23:34] <lobinho> hmmm, LOL
[23:34] <Phrea> might me some other combo, but I think it was control-s
[23:34] <Phrea> man, I forgot all about that you had to use a control-whatever to send a message :D
[23:36] <Phrea> it MUST have been control-s [at least for me]
[23:36] <Phrea> that's printed into my fingers
[23:38] <Phrea> havent used ICQ in at least 5 years... :\
[23:38] <lobinho> I changed the Super / Win key on my keyboard into a Super / Ubuntu key :x
[23:38] <lobinho> and then my shortcut for closing applications is Super / Ubuntu + Q, like Mac's Command+Q
[23:38] <lobinho> heheheh


[16:55] <bobby> 3.7 still hasn't been built yet :(
[16:55]  * DASPRiD hugs bobby
[16:55] <bobby> Yeah, I tried getting the .tar.bz2 file, right from mozilla, but it wouldn't compile :(
[17:12] <bobby> Okay, I've extracted the firefox 3.7a4 file to my home folder, so now what?
[17:19] <bobby> Still can't run make...
[17:20] <bobby> "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[23:10] <[reed]> so, Ubuntu dumping Firefox for Chromium on netbook edition
[23:10] <[reed]> can't say I'm surprised
[23:10] <mahfouz> why on netbook but not in regular?
[23:10] <mahfouz> is there a reason?
[23:20] <DASPRiD> [reed], at least only on netbook edition
[23:36] <micahg> DASPRiD: what did I miss?
[23:46] <DASPRiD> micahg, we just released firefox 5.3
[23:46] <micahg> DASPRiD: ?
[23:46] <DASPRiD> that's what you missed :)
[23:46] <micahg> DASPRiD: who released what?
[23:46] <DASPRiD> gna, you ruined the joke
[23:46] <mahfouz> ya, 5.3 is da big thing atm
[23:47] <micahg> :-/
[23:47] <micahg> DASPRiD: you do remember I have to coordinate the releases in Ubuntu right, almost gave me a heart attack
[23:48] <DASPRiD> oh, when do you coordinate 3.7? :)
[23:48] <micahg> DASPRiD: you talking about dailies
[23:49] <DASPRiD> nono i wanna know about final
[23:49] <micahg> DASPRiD: when it's ready :)
[23:50] <DASPRiD> you mean, finished/done, no? :x
[23:50] <micahg> DASPRiD: 3.7 is being skipper
[23:50] <micahg> *skipped
[23:50] <DASPRiD> oh right
[23:50] <DASPRiD> 3.6.4 then
[23:50] <DASPRiD> :)
[23:50] <DASPRiD> or 4.0
[23:50] <micahg> 3.6.4 you can test in the security PPA
[23:51] <DASPRiD> oh right, i already installed it
[23:51] <DASPRiD> ok next topic, when do we get 4.0 in the ppa? ;)
[23:51] <micahg> DASPRiD: when they do the version bump :)
[23:51] <micahg> DASPRiD: it's 3.7 ATM
[23:51] <DASPRiD> stop confusing me, 3.7 was renamed to 4.0, no?
[23:51] <micahg> and that will probably be fixed tomorrow
[23:51] <micahg> DASPRiD: not in hg yet
[23:53] <DASPRiD> anyway, when it's done, will it come to the security ppa/ubuntu repos?
[23:53] <DASPRiD> or will it go into that mighty "stable ppa"?
[23:53] <micahg> DASPRiD: stable PPA for Lucid when final is released
[23:55] <DASPRiD> is that ppa already there?
[23:55] <micahg> DASPRiD: yes
[23:55] <micahg> DASPRiD: firefox-stable
[23:55] <DASPRiD> ah, got it
[23:58] <DASPRiD> is it safe to add that ppa locally?
[23:58] <micahg> DASPRiD: should be, if there are bugs, please let us know...it's the Ubuntu Mozilla Team's PPA
[23:59] <DASPRiD> alright