[07:01] <flexiondotorg> Mirv, thank you for all the sponsoring. I really appreciate it.
[07:01] <flexiondotorg> Mirv, I've just file a sync request for Marco (the MATE window manager) which I think will help mate-settings-daemon make it's way out of wily proposed.
[07:02] <Mirv> flexiondotorg: you're welcome!
[07:02] <Mirv> ok.
[07:02] <flexiondotorg> Mirv, thanks. You've saved Ubuntu MATE 15.10 beta 1.
[07:02] <Mirv> :)
[07:02] <flexiondotorg> There are still some packages stuck in NEW on the Debian side but with everything you've sponsored I'll have a working system for the most part :-)
[07:03] <Mirv> sounds good
[08:20] <flexiondotorg> Mirv, do you have the time to sponsor another sync? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-tweak/+bug/1488407
[08:22] <Laney> flexiondotorg: do you know who's in on this beta?
[08:22] <Laney> I only know about you and xubuntu
[08:22] <flexiondotorg> Mirv, and if you are able can you also take a look at deja-dup-caja which has been in the Wily new queue for some weeks.
[08:22] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I'll ask around. I know Xubuntu are defo in Beta.
[08:22] <Laney> ty
[08:25] <flexiondotorg> Lane Ubuntu GNOME are in.
[08:26] <flexiondotorg> Laney, ^^^^
[08:27] <Mirv> flexiondotorg: I can sync, but only release team can check the NEW queue
[08:28] <flexiondotorg> Mirv, OK. Do you know who I can ask?
[08:29] <Mirv> flexiondotorg: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+members
[08:29] <flexiondotorg> Thanks.
[08:31] <Laney> Mirv: no, you mean ~ubuntu-archive
[08:32] <Mirv> oh, right...
[08:32] <Mirv> flexiondotorg: what laney said :)
[08:32] <Mirv> so this one https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+members
[08:33] <flexiondotorg> Thanks.
[08:39] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I assume Ubuntu Cloud are participating?
[08:40] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I'm waitig for confirmations from Lubuntu and Kubuntu.
[08:40] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Ubuntu Kylin are in.
[08:42] <Laney> flexiondotorg: Probably. They go it alone mostly anyway though.
[08:45] <flexiondotorg> Laney, That was a reference to Cloud?
[08:45] <Laney> Ya
[08:46] <Laney> They have a different way of publishing
[08:52] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Kubuntu are in.
[08:57] <flexiondotorg> Laney, This is what I know - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Beta1
[09:00] <Laney> flexiondotorg: I guess it's probably going to be the same as A2
[09:00] <Laney> Just need to hear from Lubuntu if so
[09:00] <Laney> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/52/manifest
[09:00] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I'm really trying with Lubuntu. I've run out of people to poke.
[09:01] <Laney> No worries, can assume they are in and change later if necessary
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> OK
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Can you take a look at deja-dup-caja in the Wily NEW queue please?
[09:02] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: not right now, but I can add that to my list of TODOs
[09:03] <flexiondotorg> It has been there for a few weeks. It is a new feature for Caja (the MATE file manger) that adds integration for Deja Dup backup.
[09:03] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Thanks.
[09:03] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, It will only affect/benefit Ubuntu MATE.
[09:04] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: sounds good, I think you talked about it in LUP
[09:04] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Probably :-)
[09:05] <flexiondotorg> And UOS 15.05.
[09:55] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Thank you.
[09:56] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: I wans't the NEWing the source. I'm looking at the binary though
[09:57] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: I was wondering about having only python 2.7 support, is it what caja is supporting?
[09:57] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Currently yes.
[09:57] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: ok, NEWed then
[09:57] <flexiondotorg> Who should I thank :-)
[09:58] <flexiondotorg> I'm going to try and port all python2 to Python3 in MATE 1.12
[09:58] <didrocks> not sure for source NEW, we don't have logs for that part unfortunately :/
[09:58] <didrocks> that would be nice !
[09:58] <flexiondotorg> I've already ported most of my own stuff for 15.10.
[09:59] <flexiondotorg> Hopefully someone will see my thanks for processing deja-dup-caja. Thank you.
[09:59] <didrocks> heh ;)
[10:00] <slickymasterWork> flexiondotorg, is there any prevision for when the url for B1 will land at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ ?
[10:00] <slickymasterWork> for both 64 and 32 bit
[10:00] <flexiondotorg> Laney, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[10:00] <slickymasterWork> tks flexiondotorg
[10:00] <flexiondotorg> Please see slickymasterWork question.
[10:01] <Laney> I didn't start on it yet
[10:01] <Laney> soon
[10:01] <slickymasterWork> ok Laney, thanks for the heads up
[10:02] <Laney> slickymasterWork: Setting it up now
[10:03] <Laney> I guess I'll kick them off in 10 minutes, then a little bit after that they will come
[10:03] <slickymasterWork> great
[10:03] <slickymasterWork> thanks
[10:04] <Laney> flexiondotorg: Just committed the beta 1 freeze, let someone on the RT know if stuff should go through it
[10:04] <flexiondotorg> Laney, could you update ubuntu-mate-meta please? I've just pushed some seed changes as a result of the syncs Mirv kindly complete for me earlier.
[10:04] <Laney> Momento
[10:05] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I acknowledge your beta 1 freeze comment.
[10:05] <flexiondotorg> And I am sorry I've just requested a package update.
[10:06] <flexiondotorg> Laney, who is conducting your role on Thursday?
[10:09] <Laney> flexiondotorg: Didn't hear back yet
[10:09] <flexiondotorg> OK.
[10:09] <Laney> Soon I start asking people in ~ubuntu-cdimage directly
[10:09] <Laney> :)
[10:09] <flexiondotorg> Can you tell me what is hold mate-settings-daemon in wily/proposed?
[10:10] <flexiondotorg> I need to know if this is just a build dep delay, which should now e unblocked of if I need to fix something.
[10:11] <Laney>  ubuntu-mate-core : Depends: mate-settings-daemon-pulse but it is not installable
[10:11] <Laney> Fixed with new meta?
[10:13] <flexiondotorg> Yes.
[10:14] <flexiondotorg> Laney, ^^^
[10:14] <Laney> ok, let me build this
[10:14] <flexiondotorg> Thank you.
[10:14] <flexiondotorg> Sorry for delaying.
[10:14] <Laney> I started rebuilds of all flavours apart from MATE
[10:15] <flexiondotorg> OK
[10:15] <Laney> If you want things past the freeze, please give me a list like this: unblock pkga/versiona pkgb/versionb ...
[10:15] <Laney> (everything on your iso will be frozen)
[10:16] <flexiondotorg> Understood.
[10:16] <Laney> So you'll want at least settings-daemon and meta
[10:16] <flexiondotorg> Please.
[10:16] <Laney> Give me the line please
[10:17] <Laney> Otherwise I have to go look up the versions myself ;)
[10:17] <flexiondotorg> OK, but I can't upload/update the ubuntu-mate-meta
[10:18] <flexiondotorg> Laney, unblock mate-settings-daemon/1.10.1-1
[10:19] <Laney> I'm doing the meta now
[10:19] <Laney> it'll be current version + 1
[10:19] <flexiondotorg> Laney, unblock ubuntu-mate-meta/1.130
[10:20] <flexiondotorg> Laney, confirmation from Lubuntu that they are participating.
[10:20] <Laney> cool
[10:22] <Laney> uploaded, unblocked
[10:23] <flexiondotorg> Lubuntu say to always include them in all pre-releases.
[10:23] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Many thanks.
[10:24] <Laney> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/345/builds <- starting to appear
[10:24] <Laney> self service respins after this
[11:12] <coreycb> infinity, do you know if openstack core packages have any sort of standing exception for uploads after feature freeze?
[11:59] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Are the Ubuntu MATE builds queued?
[11:59] <Laney> flexiondotorg: no, you want to wait for your new packages to get in
[11:59] <Laney> flexiondotorg: once rmadison shows you they are there, feel free to trigger it
[12:02] <flexiondotorg> Laney, OK. I'll keep an eye on rmadison.
[12:02] <flexiondotorg> Can I trigger then build or do you need to kick of the first one?
[12:02] <Laney> You can
[12:02] <Laney> Just go to the daily milestone and do it from there
[12:04] <flexiondotorg> OK
[12:09] <flexiondotorg> Mirv, can you do me another favour please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-media/+bug/1488485
[12:09] <flexiondotorg> That recently landed in Debian and is required for Ubuntu MATE 15.10 beta 1.
[12:10] <flexiondotorg> Laney, unblock mate-media/1.10.0-1
[12:10] <Laney> k
[12:17] <flexiondotorg> Laney, the unblock is subject to the following sync happening https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-media/+bug/1488485
[12:17] <Laney> Doesn't matter, if the version doesn't match it'll be ignored
[12:17] <flexiondotorg> OK
[12:18] <Mirv> flexiondotorg: done
[12:19] <flexiondotorg> Mirv, thank you so much.
[13:30] <flexiondotorg> Laney, can you advise on the status of mate-media? I see it is in wily-proposed but don't know if it will be automatically promoted.
[13:31] <Laney> flexiondotorg: If it's missing builds but it is built then probably waiting for the next run
[13:37] <cjwatson> It was probably only missing builds due to being in NEW, which I handled ~40 minutes ago
[14:13] <flexiondotorg> Laney, cjwatson rmadison show no record of mate-media 1.10.0-1 in wily-proposed now. I'm confused.
[14:14] <cjwatson> It'll get there
[14:15] <cjwatson> Oh, it's because it was removed from wily-proposed and migrated to wily, the first must have happened before a publisher run started and the second after, or similar
[14:15] <cjwatson> Give it a bit more, it'll show up in wily
[14:32] <flexiondotorg> cjwatson, Thanks.
[18:55] <ari-tczew> Laney: even no-change syncs are forbidden to upload now?
[21:10] <Shinikake> o7
[21:16] <ScottK> p*
[21:30]  * infinity nods sagely.


 oh lord i dont think i can stay in this channel without dropping an iq  point
[00:21] <IdleOne> He can thank me later for saving his IQ
[00:22] <bazhang> haha
[00:26] <IdleOne> incoming
[00:26] <IdleOne> all yours bazhang :)
[00:28] <wowaname> hi can i be banned here
[00:28] <wowaname> waste of a channel imo
[00:28] <bazhang> here?
[00:29] <wowaname> #ubuntu-ops-ops
[00:29] <wowaname> yeah here
[00:29] <bazhang> just leave
[00:29] <wowaname> aw you're nice
[00:29] <bazhang> why would we ban you here
[00:30] <wowaname> same reason you'd ban me in the main chan
[00:30] <wowaname> not you specifically
[00:30] <wowaname> hmmm brb
 oh lord i dont think i can stay in this channel without dropping an iq  point
[00:30] <wowaname> oh yeah right
[00:30] <wowaname> that's bannable?
[00:30] <bazhang> thats not helpful at all
[00:31] <wowaname> nor is this conversation we're having right now
[00:31] <wowaname> yet we're still having it
[00:32] <bazhang> chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:32] <bazhang> support is in #ubuntu
[00:33] <IdleOne> insinuating that people are "too stupid" for you to be around is insulting. I wanted to make sure you didn't suffer any ill effects from being around our users who actually are trying to seek help and be helpful.
[00:34] <wowaname> what's insulting is like five channels per open-source support project
[00:35] <wowaname> (channel) (channel)-offtopic (channel)-ops ##(channel)
[00:35] <IdleOne> oh, Ubuntu has way more than that
[00:35] <bazhang> wowaname, then dont join them
[00:35] <IdleOne> if that insults you then you are not going to like being around Ubuntu
[00:35] <bazhang> wowaname, if you think its a waste of time, why bother joining
[00:35] <wowaname> because it's wasting your time x3
[00:36] <bazhang> x3?
[00:36] <wowaname> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon
[00:36] <bazhang> is that the new xD
[00:36] <wowaname> >new
[00:37] <bazhang> wowaname, stick to channels you find worthwhile then
[00:41] <bazhang> wowaname, was there anything you needed assistance with?
[03:00] <phunyguy> so we have some folks /notifying users in #ubuntu..... anything we can do about that?
[03:20] <phunyguy> @btlogin
[04:26] <phunyguy> [23:20:18] [tertop] douchebag
[04:26] <phunyguy> oops
[04:26] <phunyguy> meant for -ops-team
[12:16] <bazhang> gone
[17:22] <phunyguy> that person in -ot was the same person /noticing people in #ubuntu last night.


[19:58] <MK-BB> Hi, did the meeting begin??
[19:58] <jcastro> nope
[19:59] <boredandblogging> juliux, popey, keffie_jayx, JanC: ping
[19:59] <popey> yo!
[20:00] <boredandblogging> hey
[20:00] <juliux> boredandblogging: pong
[20:00] <boredandblogging> hi juliux
[20:00] <boredandblogging> i know keffie_jayx is around
[20:01] <Jihui_Choi> hi boredandblogging.
[20:01] <boredandblogging> hello Jihui_Choi
[20:01] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: you are here for LoCo approval?
[20:02] <Jihui_Choi> yes.
[20:02] <boredandblogging> we have quorum but lets give keffie_jayx and JanC a few minutes
[20:02] <Jihui_Choi> how many people is needed?
[20:03] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: 3
[20:03] <juliux> boredandblogging: are you going to the next uds?
[20:03] <boredandblogging> juliux: have to check my work session
[20:03] <keffie_jayx> Hey i'm here
[20:03] <boredandblogging> juliux: you?
[20:03] <Jihui_Choi> humm.. I hope we have more than 3 at this time.
[20:04] <boredandblogging> hopefully JanC_ will arrive soon
[20:04] <juliux> boredandblogging: i have filled a sponsoring request
[20:04] <boredandblogging> juliux: cool
[20:04] <boredandblogging> lets do Korea first since they were here for the last meeting
[20:05] <keffie_jayx> So have i
[20:05] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: when did the LoCo start?
[20:06] <boredandblogging> their approval application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KoreanTeam/ApprovalApplication
[20:06] <juliux> nice logo;)
[20:06] <Jihui_Choi> as my known, since the late of 2005
[20:06] <JanC> I'm here
[20:07] <keffie_jayx> Ok
[20:07] <boredandblogging> JanC: cool, we are looking at the Korean application
[20:07] <Jihui_Choi> one of our member made the logo. the yin and yang symbol means our nation flag.
[20:08] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: do most people use hanirc over freenode?
[20:08] <Jihui_Choi> yes. in korea, most of people use hanirc.
[20:08] <Jihui_Choi> irc.hanirc.org
[20:10] <popey> Jihui_Choi: is there more than one team in Korea? I recall seeing multiple edits of the loco team list a while ago, from people changing the Korea entry?
[20:10] <Jihui_Choi> for  checking our channel in hanirc, visit irc.hanirc.org/6661 or 6666 #ubuntu
[20:10] <Jihui_Choi> popey, well.. it's a little complicate..
[20:11] <Jihui_Choi> But it's a just happening.
[20:11] <popey> Is there some conflict?
[20:11] <Jihui_Choi> there is no another team.
[20:11] <Jihui_Choi> nope. just A TROLL made some problem.
[20:11] <popey> It seems to have stopped now.
[20:12] <Jihui_Choi> I'm sorry I don't know how to explain
[20:12] <popey> Jihui_Choi: What do you guys have planned for the coming year ahead?
[20:12] <Jihui_Choi> my friend will help me. wait please
[20:12] <popey> no, it's fine, you don't need to explain further, I understand.
[20:13] <Jihui_Choi> yes. at first, we will hold a seminar in May.
[20:13] <effie_jayx> Jihui_Choi, are you planning to have a freenode channel anytime?
[20:13] <Jihui_Choi> we aleady have #ubuntu-ko
[20:13] <EugeneLee> popey:  one of person who want to controled loco team but he made some legal problem so he had sueing
[20:13] <Jihui_Choi> and from now, we'll make more active via our form link..
[20:13] <popey> EugeneLee: oh dear
[20:14] <Jihui_Choi> Thank you EugeneLee
[20:14] <EugeneLee> :P
[20:14] <popey> I dont think it really matters where the irc channel is, so long as they have plenty of contribution
[20:14] <popey> and people can find it :)
[20:15] <popey> Jihui_Choi: are there any specific things you guys do to promote the use of Ubuntu?
[20:15] <Jihui_Choi> I think so. we plan to use #ubuntu-ko in irc.freenode.net for official support. and #ubuntu in hanirc for our chat.
[20:16] <Jihui_Choi> not yet. we want to get some CDs, but now we plan to make our own distrubution.
[20:16] <effie_jayx> Jihui_Choi, just as long as you are able to point people to your channel it should be fine
[20:17] <Jihui_Choi> ah.. we want to use the domain. ubutu-ko.org
[20:17] <Jihui_Choi> ubuntu-kr.org
[20:17] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: how are translations going?
[20:17] <Jihui_Choi> effie_jayx, I see. thank you.
[20:17] <Jihui_Choi> about 50%..
[20:18] <Jihui_Choi> our translation team was broken. but now we have some volunteers, and tranlation rate is growing
[20:19] <popey> Jihui_Choi: what do you have planned for the Seminar in May?
[20:20] <Jihui_Choi> wait a minute please. sorry
[20:21] <MK-1> popey; im here to help Jihui_Choi out
[20:22] <Jihui_Choi> thank you MK-1.
[20:22] <popey> Hi
[20:22] <Jihui_Choi> we have 4 topic for beginner, and 2 topic for advanced.
[20:23] <popey> Training sessions? Education?
[20:23] <MK-1> yes basically yes
[20:23] <MK-1> there will be an Intro for the beginners and 2 projects for the advanced users
[20:24] <popey> Did you participate in the bug jam the last two days at all?
[20:24] <Jihui_Choi> and time for sharing some hardware stuff. and helping to set up ubuntu for laptop and mobile deivce.
[20:24] <MK-1> one of the basic things will be
[20:24] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi, MK-1 how will you advertise or promote the seminars?
[20:24] <MK-1> to use ubuntu as desktop
[20:24] <popey> sounds good
[20:25] <JanC> how "big" are these seminars?
[20:25] <Jihui_Choi> using forum and some site about linux.
[20:25] <effie_jayx> MK-1, in the todo list in the koren new wiki. there is mention of MOTU work. could you tell me a bit about your incursion in MOTU?
[20:25] <Jihui_Choi> we plan about for 50s.
[20:26] <Jihui_Choi> does MOTU mean this? "Maintain our own Ubuntu GNU/Linux distribution"
[20:27] <MK-1> boredandblogging, we are planning to put an ad in the korean linux communty forums and some open source newspaper
[20:27] <Jihui_Choi> For now, there are some problem to use korean after ubuntu installation.
[20:27] <Jihui_Choi> So we edit official distribution for our environment.
[20:28] <effie_jayx> ok thanks
[20:28] <Jihui_Choi> add korean language pack and some package for korean.
[20:29] <boredandblogging> lets vote
[20:29] <boredandblogging> +1
[20:29] <juliux> +1
[20:29] <effie_jayx> +1 from me... great work on events and keep it up
[20:30] <popey> Ok, I'm undecided.
[20:30] <popey> I like what the guys are doing, and they're clearly enthusiastic.
[20:30] <popey> hmm, +1
[20:30] <popey> :)
[20:30] <boredandblogging> congrats Korean Team!
[20:30] <johnc4510> w00t for the Korean team
[20:31] <Jihui_Choi> thank you popey, boredandblogging, juliux, effie_jayx :)
[20:31] <bundo> Oh Thank you ^^ ~
[20:31] <MK-1> thank you guys.
[20:31] <JanC> are you guys trying to get the changes in your PPA upstream?
[20:31] <effie_jayx> Jihui_Choi, keep up the great work and please do extend our gratitude to the team
[20:31] <boredandblogging> jcastro: ping
[20:32] <jcastro> pong!
[20:32] <Jihui_Choi> Of course. we want to help people. and more many people know about ubuntu
[20:33] <Jihui_Choi> effie_jayx, I see. I notice and encourge our members, especially developers..
[20:33] <MK-1> JanC; the upstream will be fixed soon.
[20:33] <JanC> MK-1: good
[20:33] <boredandblogging> jcastro: whats on your mind?
[20:33] <MK-1> that is in the agenda right now
[20:33] <MK-1> so.. no worries there.
[20:33] <jcastro> boredandblogging: well, I would like to propose moving mailing list approval for LoCo teams to the Loco council
[20:34] <jcastro> initially I was assigned this task to clear up the queue
[20:34] <jcastro> but it was a temporary measure
[20:34] <Jihui_Choi> wow.. now is 5 am in korea. I slept just 3 hours for this.
[20:34] <jcastro> so what I would like to do is hand over that responsibility to the loco council
[20:34] <Jihui_Choi> but I'm so happy. I really appreciate you guys. :)
[20:34] <jcastro> basically that means logging into rt.ubuntu.com, and looking at mailing list requests
[20:34] <boredandblogging> jcastro: are you getting flooded with requests?
[20:35] <jcastro> and then approving/declining them
[20:35] <jcastro> no, after I cleared the queue I get maybe 5 a month now
[20:35] <jcastro> the reason I want to move isn't because of workload, it's because this should be the domain of the loco council
[20:35] <boredandblogging> right
[20:36] <popey> sounds like a plan
[20:36] <boredandblogging> +1
[20:36] <jcastro> ok so i was wondering
[20:36] <jcastro> do you each apply for RT accounts, or do we make one for the entire council?
[20:36] <juliux> jcastro: i think we talked about that already at uds in prague but at the end we don't get the task and also don't get rt accounts;)
[20:36] <jcastro> and then change the password when you change membership or something
[20:37] <jcastro> juliux: yes, at prague is when this was assigned to me
[20:37] <boredandblogging> either way is fine with me
[20:37] <JanC> I think I already have an rt account somewhere...?
[20:38] <popey> i would have separate accounts
[20:38] <popey> then we have tracability
[20:38] <popey> minus typos though
[20:38] <popey> i see no reason for us not to have separate accounts
[20:38] <jcastro> also, I am not sure if there are that many for there to need seperate accounts
[20:38] <jcastro> it's not like there are millions of these
[20:39] <popey> no, but it would solve the "Who authorised this!?"
[20:39] <popey> and would not require us to go mailing people or getting elmo to dig out IP addresses
[20:39] <jcastro> ok, so I will open a ticket then for having you all getting RT accounts
[20:39] <jcastro> or do you want to all apply for accounts individually?
[20:39] <boredandblogging> think JanC and I already have accounts
[20:40] <boredandblogging> but if we need to put in some group or something
[20:40] <jcastro> ok so the others mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and get accounts
[20:40] <jcastro> and then I will show you guys how to do it?
[20:41] <juliux> cool
[20:41] <boredandblogging> or a wiki page with instructions
[20:41] <jcastro> ok
[20:41] <popey> \o/ screencast
[20:41] <popey> :)
[20:41] <boredandblogging> LOL
[20:41] <popey> j/k
[20:41] <jcastro> heh
[20:41] <jcastro> ok that's all I have unless you guys have more questions?
[20:41] <popey> will requests go to the mailing list?
[20:42] <popey> or us individually?
[20:42] <popey> or something else
[20:42] <jcastro> they go into rt
[20:42] <jcastro> and it mails you after elmo assigns it to your group or whatever
[20:42] <popey> right
[20:42] <popey> so when someone leaves the council we just yank their id from the group?
[20:42] <jcastro> and then you say "approve, IS please make this list", assign to "Anyone" and then that's it
[20:42] <jcastro> right
[20:42] <popey> groovy, makes sense
[20:42] <jcastro> then IS goes and makes it
[20:43] <popey> woot, responsiblity, Go us!
[20:43] <jcastro> you don't do any mailman admin or anything like that
[20:43] <popey> ok
[20:43] <boredandblogging> cool
[20:43] <jcastro> basically, you're there to tell the IS team that that group applying for a list is sane.
[20:45] <boredandblogging> awight
[20:45] <boredandblogging> so...
[20:45] <boredandblogging> Saturday is the locoteams meeting
[20:45] <boredandblogging> we were going to have the French Team...
[20:45]  * popey fires a mail to rt@  "OI! Gimmie an account!"
[20:45] <popey> or words to that effect
[20:45] <boredandblogging> but I don't think thats going to work out
[20:45] <boredandblogging> popey: think you have to include some curse words
[20:46]  * popey edits his request
[20:46] <popey> "Nick Ali said '..."
[20:46] <effie_jayx> lol
[20:46] <boredandblogging> hah
[20:48] <boredandblogging> ummm
[20:48] <boredandblogging> yes back to locoteams meeting
[20:48] <boredandblogging> saturday
[20:48] <boredandblogging> should be fun
[20:49] <boredandblogging> juliux: maybe you want the German Team doing the next -locoteams meeting?
[20:49] <boredandblogging> (not this saturday)
[20:50] <juliux> boredandblogging: do we have a date?
[20:50] <juliux> we are busy with cebit next week
[20:51] <popey> after cebit would be great
[20:51] <popey> whilst its all fresh in your mind
[20:51] <popey> :D
[20:51] <juliux> the weekend after that i am at the next fair;9
[20:51] <juliux> so 21/22 march is the earliest;)
[20:51] <popey> that isnt a problem is it?
[20:51] <popey> we didnt want them _too_ often
[20:51] <boredandblogging> agreed
[20:53] <boredandblogging> juliux: we can work on a schedule after the first -locoteams meeting
[20:53] <juliux> i think i will check with the rest of the team when in amrch we can do it
[20:54] <boredandblogging> ok
[20:54] <boredandblogging> anything else?
[20:55] <popey> dont think so
[20:55] <popey> date of the next non-motivational-session-meeting
[20:56] <juliux> lol
[20:56] <juliux> 16.3 ?
[20:57] <boredandblogging> 16.3 is fine with me
[20:57] <popey> looks good
[20:57] <juliux> good;)
[20:58] <JanC> looks okay
[20:58] <juliux> i will write it into my paper calendar in my kitchen;)
[20:58] <johnc4510> nice meeting council thx :) I'm especially glad to see boredandblogging having to do some work  LOL
[20:58] <boredandblogging> sweet
[20:58] <boredandblogging> thanks everyone!
[20:58] <juliux> johnc4510: hehe
[20:58] <popey> \o/
[20:58] <johnc4510> :)
[20:58] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: lol
[20:58] <popey> johnc4510: he's our whipping boy
[20:58] <johnc4510> oooooooooh nice
[20:58] <boredandblogging> I am!
[20:58] <johnc4510> LOL
[20:59] <popey> assuming of course that doesn't have any negative connotations internationally of course :D
[20:59] <popey> ahem
[20:59] <boredandblogging> haha
[20:59] <boredandblogging> heh
[20:59] <tyche> I'm glad somebody's got the whips out for boredandblogging.  Heehee
[20:59] <boredandblogging> you guys are rough
[21:00] <tyche> We had a good teacher.  Somebody by the name of Nick
[21:00] <boredandblogging> you shush
[21:00] <tyche> ROFLMAOPMP
[21:01] <johnc4510> lol
[21:02] <boredandblogging> alright, meeting adjourned, johnc4510 and tyche are having too much fun at my expense!
[21:03] <effie_jayx> thanks everyone for attending and congrast to the korean team


[03:52] <skellat> .nws 44004
[03:52] <jenni> There are no active watches, warnings or advisories, for Ashtabula, OH.
[03:52] <skellat> .wx 44004
[03:52] <jenni> Cover: Cover Unknown, Temp: ?, Dew Point: ?, Pressure: ?mb, Wind: Light air 2kt (↑) - LFRS 03:30Z
[03:52]  * skellat *SLAPS* jenni
[03:52] <skellat> .wx KHZY
[03:52] <jenni> Cover: Overcast ☁, Temp: 69.8°F (21°C), Dew Point: 66.2°F (19°C), Pressure: 30.01in (1013mb), Wind: Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KYNG 02:51Z
[04:02] <Unit193> Temp: 69 F (21 C) ~ Partly Cloudy ~ Humidity: 93% ~ Observed: Sat 05, 23:52
[12:53] <belkinsa> .nws 45069
[12:53] <jenni> Flood Advisory issued October 06 at 7:40AM EDT until October 06 at 10:45AM EDT by NWS
[12:53] <jenni> Flash Flood *_WATCH_* issued October 06 at 4:41AM EDT until October 07 at 2:00AM EDT by NWS
[12:53] <jenni> Complete weather watches, warnings, and advisories for West Chester, OH, available here: http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwaatmget.php?x=OHC017 -- You may also PM the bot to get the full list.
[12:54] <belkinsa> Sweet script for the bot.
[12:54] <belkinsa> .wx 45069
[12:54] <jenni> Cover: Overcast ☁, Temp: 17°C, Dew Point: 13°C, Pressure: 1026mb, Wind: Light air 2kt (↻) - LFOJ 12:30Z


[09:52] <dpm> hi launchpadders, could someone help me removing drgeo from this project group? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations-project
[10:17] <gema> hi, I have a blueprint that stubbornly refuses to let me change my launchpad id in one of the work items
[10:17] <gema> is this a known issue someone is working on?
[10:17] <gema> is there a workaround?
[10:19] <gema> it also doesn't allow me to remove that action once I have changed the text and added another one
[10:19] <wgrant> jamestunnicliffe, danilos: ^^
[10:22] <gema> jamestunnicliffe, danilos: this is the blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-q-builds-smoke-testing) and the action is the one called [gema] etc
[10:22] <gema> I am stepping out for a while, bbl
[10:23] <gema> I have blueprints with many more actions that I will need to review for this kind of problem, so I'd need your advice guys before I do that
[10:24] <jamestunnicliffe> wgrant, gema: Not a problem known to me.
[10:24] <gema> jamestunnicliffe: I have seen it other times, but until now I didn't care that much
[10:24] <gema> jamestunnicliffe: I can raise a bug if needed be
[10:25] <jamestunnicliffe> gema: Please do.
[10:28] <gema> jamestunnicliffe: bug 1004416
[10:29] <gema> jamestunnicliffe: I am not sure how I got that work item stuck, though, as soon as I find a way to reproduce I will add it too
[10:30] <jamestunnicliffe> gema: I can see it happening on a local dev instance.
[10:30] <gema> jamestunnicliffe: cool, then you can reproduce, that's good
[10:30] <gema> bbl
[10:34] <danilos> jamestunnicliffe, hi, did you have to do anything special to reproduce it locally?
[10:35] <jamestunnicliffe> danilos: No, the first BP I tried did it, but I then discovered a workaround, so my reproducer is gone (see bug 1004416).
[10:41] <danilos> jamestunnicliffe: did you try it on one of the existing BPs or did you create it yourself?
[10:41] <jamestunnicliffe> I ran http://paste.ubuntu.com/992291/ a while back and https://blueprints.launchpad.dev/linaro/+spec/name-100098 was showing the problem.
[10:49] <danilos> jamestunnicliffe, ack, thanks
[12:31] <gema> jamestunnicliffe, danilos: the problem is that it is very difficult to keep track of all the work items on some blueprints and having to manually validate them is very tedious
[12:32] <gema> jamestunnicliffe, danilos: so a fix for it would be very appreciated, I will work with you in reproducing if necessary
[12:32] <gema> I can create a test blueprint
[12:36] <gema> not to mention that there are lost of people out there trusting their work items and they may be wrong
[12:37] <gema> lots of people
[12:37] <danilos> gema, I wonder if you remember how did you get to this state? I would expect a problem like this when there're work items with identical descriptions, but I don't think it should be possible to get to this state
[12:37] <gema> danilos: every time I have seen it I was trying to reassing a work item for someone else
[12:37] <gema> or create a work item twice to have two people working on it
[12:38] <gema> at UDS my tasks were all assigned to [gema] which is a different user
[12:38] <gema> so changing from that user to mine made the problem appear
[12:38] <gema> for instance
[12:57] <danilos> gema, ack, thanks, I'll look into this bug
[13:04] <gema> thanks!
[16:10] <cmars232> i'm having a weird permissions problem. my lp id 'cmars' used to have permissions to access lp:ztrustee (private project) but I seem to have lost permission to create private branchs
[16:10] <cmars232> for example, bzr push lp:~cmars/ztrustee/new-private-branch fails
[16:11] <cmars232> as does bzr push lp:~ztrustee/ztrustee/new-private-branch
[16:11] <cmars232> any ideas?
[16:22] <tsimpson> cmars232: what exactly is the error you're getting?
[16:47] <dobey> cmars232: it looks like ztrustee branches are public by default
[16:47] <dobey> cmars232, kirkland: ^^ are they supposed to be private by default?
[16:49] <cmars232> dobey: they should be private by default
[16:50] <dobey> thedac: ^^ can you fix that please?
[16:51] <thedac> dobey: checking
[16:51] <cmars232> tsimpson: the error i get is 'bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "~cmars/ztrustee/1003150-rcvr/": : You cannot create branches in "~cmars/ztrustee"'
[16:52] <cmars232> same error if I try to push to lp:~ztrustee/ztrustee/1003150-rcvr
[16:52] <cmars232> let me know if i'm doing it wrong, i'm more familiar with git than bzr...
[16:53] <thedac> dobey: the default is set to private. Are there branches that need to be changed to priavte manually now?
[16:54] <dobey> thedac: oh. https://code.launchpad.net/ztrustee the one listed there maybe. and that page says public initially
[16:55] <cmars232> thedac dobey: just to clarify, everything on this project should be private
[16:55] <thedac> cmars232: ok, I'll set them all to private
[16:55] <cmars232> thanks
[16:56] <dobey> cmars232: right, that's what i thought. and why i can't see the trunk or anything :)
[16:58] <dobey> cmars232: maybe thedac or kirkland can tell why you're getting the permissions denied issue in bzr. i'd suspect a missing/expired team membership, or misconfiguration of teams on the project itself
[16:58] <cmars232> dobey: ok, i'll follow up with kirkland
[17:00] <thedac> cmars232: only one branch needed to be made private. I confirm they are all private now
[17:00] <cmars232> thanks thedac
[19:21] <colon_D> anyone else having their packages rejected by launchpad? Unhandled exception processing upload: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/tmp/tmplC8YUN/trafficserver-3.1.3/debian/copyright'
[20:21] <jcfp> is there a known problem with the ppa stats? looks like no new data have been generated since the 21st.
[21:13] <wodemay_> Hi.. Anyone know of alternatives to translations.lp.n? I may still use the lp solution, I just would like to see what other options i have.
[21:13] <wodemay_> One downside which I don't like about the LP one is that ultimately I will need my strings in the format of a PHP array, not a PO file.
[21:56] <mounirb> is there a way to change a launchpad project URL ?
[21:57] <mounirb> for example if a project is http://launchpad.net/x can it be changed to http//launchpad.net/y
[22:00] <maxb> Yes, you just need to ask for it in a question
[22:00] <maxb> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[22:01] <maxb> The question should come from the project's maintainer by way of authorization
[22:03] <maxb> mounirb: ^
[22:04] <mounirb> maxb: thank you


[00:00] <homero_simpsons> hola
[00:01] <homero_simpsons> exit
[00:06] <rtdos> is there a way to protect my .kde settings when i'm using a different desktop ?
[00:16] <shane4ubuntu> rtdos: you could move the folder with mv .kde .kdesaftey  or something, then it would in theory give you the generic defualt setup for that distro/desktop
[00:16] <shane4ubuntu> I'm not 100% how safe that is, but a thought.
[00:17] <rtdos> i never thought of that. make a backup copy of my .kde folder? ah, got some script writing to learn. :)
[00:18] <nyl> ey can someone tell me the repository and package name so i can isntall kde 4.6 on my ubuntu system?
[00:18] <nyl> install
[00:19]  * shane4ubuntu perks up for that info!
[00:21] <Snowhog> !kubuntu-ppa/beta
[00:22] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: how much risk factor 1-10   1 being safe 10 being risky?
[00:24] <Snowhog> See http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6-beta-2
[00:25] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: If you have a stable system now, and you want to keep it stable, don't upgrade to KDE 4.6 while it is still BETA.
[00:25] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: yeah, I like stability, I will wait, usually around RC2 or so I don't mind jumping on board.
[00:26] <oscar> do u like ubuntu
[00:26] <oscar> i just got i
[00:26] <oscar> t
[00:26] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: I wait for a new KDE to be released 'Final' and even then, wait a week or two before upgrading.
[00:27] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: yeah, that is even more stable than what I do, I like being on the edge, and don't mind minor probs.
[00:30] <sithlord48> yeah, i got natty working on my netbook :O)
[00:40] <Exilant> Hi, I'm using kubuntu maverick with the kubuntu ppa. The new device notifier is not working for me(empty although usb drives are inserted), can someone point me towards either a solution or debug possibilities?
[00:59] <ari-tczew> how can I use kwalletmanager for remember my ssh key password?
[01:08] <ecinx> i'm on natty
[01:09] <shane4ubuntu> anyone use Basket (note pad thing) I have used it before, I tried to import my tomboy notes, but it didn't seem to work?
[01:09] <Daskreech> shane4ubuntu: basket is cool :)
[01:09] <Daskreech> ari-tczew: for the KDE apps?
[01:10] <shane4ubuntu> Daskreech: yes, I agree, however I can't import my tomboy notes, :(
[01:10] <ari-tczew> Daskreech: for bzr
[01:10] <Daskreech> oh.
[01:10] <Daskreech> Wasn't aware there was a bzr KDE app
[01:18] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: Tomboy notes are supposed to be importable, according to the info on Basket's home page. What version of Basket, and what version of Tomboy are you using?
[01:34] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: Basket version 1.0.cmake  (from repos)
[01:35] <shane4ubuntu> Tomboy 1.4.2
[01:37] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: Basket 2.0~beta1 is installable from the standard repos. You're using an older version (unless you are not running Kubuntu 10.10?)
[01:38] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: no, I'm running 10.10, and regular repos?
[01:38] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552011/
[01:38] <shane4ubuntu> hmm, odd
[01:39] <ecinx> how do i compile kile?
[01:39] <ecinx> and which should i donwload *.tar.gz or *.tar.bz2
[01:39] <shane4ubuntu> ecinx: they are probably the same, just one is compressed more
[01:39] <Snowhog> shane4ubuntu: According to apt-cache policy basket, 2.0~beta1-0ubuntu1 in in the universe repository.
[01:40] <shane4ubuntu> ecinx: there should be a readme in the file to give instructions how compiling
[01:40] <ecinx> shane4ubuntu:  thx
[01:40] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: that is odd, I haven't done anything fancy like pinning and extra ppa's with my system, so I should have the latest.
[01:41] <Snowhog> Snowhog: But you 'built' your Basket from source, yes?
[01:41] <shane4ubuntu> Snowhog: ok, I fired up synaptic and it is showing 2.0!beta12-0ubuntu basket
[01:41] <shane4ubuntu> seems to be a version conflict depending on where you get your info.
[01:55] <ecinx> I don't think i compiled this correctly
[02:37] <Bauldrick> anyone in here awake?
[02:37] <Bauldrick> earlier updates fooked my networkmanager (kept dropping off, having to re-authorize) - I reverted to wicd, but that doesn't play nicely with statit IP address it seems...
[02:39] <Daskreech> static?
[02:42] <Bauldrick> it seems - doesn;t authenticate unless I use dhcp -
[02:56] <veovis_muaddib> In the folder view plasmoid and in Dolphin, how do I turn off the icon that shows symbolic links?  I'd also like to remove the italics, but that's not a huge deal
[03:06] <veovis_muaddib> If I can't "remove" the arrow on linked items, can I at least theme it to a transparent image?
[03:09] <Daskreech> Bauldrick: which updates did you install?
[03:10] <Daskreech> veovis_muaddib: probably. Although I think the KDE system takes a standard icon and overlays images on top of it as needed. Perhaps ask in #plasma ?
[03:11] <veovis_muaddib> Daskreech: Yeah, I want to make the overlay transparent
[03:11] <veovis_muaddib> Daskreech: Thanks, I'll ask in there
[03:11] <Daskreech> Ah yeah you could just move the icon that it's looking for or replace it with a 1x1 alpha  png
[03:27] <Guest1666> hi i need help can anyone help me
[03:28] <Guest1666> is someone there
[03:42] <elkng> how can I download package with all dependencies without installation ?
[03:48] <Snowhog> elkng: From a console just type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install package_name --download-only
[03:54] <elkng> Snowhog: thanks
[04:39] <FloridaGuy> 2.8 ghz 64 bit dual core cpu...1gig ram....64 bit or 32 bit version of kubuntu
[04:40] <Snowhog> FloridaGuy: Use either one - both will work on your 64-bit CPU.
[04:40] <gr8m8> FloridaGuy:  if you don't do heaps of large mathematical computations I would go for the 32bit
[04:40] <precubcr> hy
[04:40] <precubcr> need help pls
[04:40] <gr8m8> just less hassle setting up
[04:40] <precubcr> trying to install nvidia driver on maverik
[04:40] <precubcr> how ?
[04:41] <precubcr> cant do it ..
[04:41] <precubcr> says x is still runing
[04:41] <gr8m8> you need to do   pkill X   in a tty
[04:41] <precubcr> hoy ?
[04:41] <precubcr> killall x
[04:41] <precubcr> ?
[04:42] <FloridaGuy> Snowhog: gr8m8: some say with only 1gig ram..use the 32 bit..then others say...use cpu to its full
[04:42] <precubcr> pls ?
[04:42] <precubcr> anybody =
[04:43] <gr8m8> precubcr:  either killall or pkill
[04:43] <precubcr> the exact command pls ?
[04:43] <precubcr> i am new in kubuntu
[04:43] <gr8m8> you need to do   pkill X   in a tty
[04:43] <precubcr> i got there, made me root
[04:43] <precubcr> and put killall x
[04:43] <FloridaGuy> precubcr: or install the nvidia in the repo
[04:43] <precubcr> and eve so it dindt let me
[04:44] <precubcr> florida how is that ?
[04:44] <gr8m8> !nvidia
[04:45] <gr8m8> yes the end user owned the cat
[04:45] <gr8m8> oops
[04:45] <FloridaGuy> precubcr: in your kmenu you should see an icon that says drivers or hardware..something like that...open that...click the one that says recomended..and click activate
[06:24] <Maccer> Hey #kubuntu, I don't want to beg for #ubuntu help in the official kubuntu irc, but I kind of have to. Would anyone be as so kind to help me with my ubuntu problem? It's boot related.
[06:43] <geekosopher> !anyone | Maccer
[06:43] <Maccer> Sorry geekosopher, it's just the #kubuntu channel. :(
[06:44] <geekosopher> Maccer: I didn't get you, is your problem not related to Kubuntu?
[06:45] <Maccer> No, but that's why I was trying to politely ask.
[06:46] <geekosopher> Maccer: then why not ask the real question, and see if someone can help
[06:49] <Maccer> geekosopher: It comes in a form of a link ( http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10334000#post10334000 )
[07:00] <valorie> Maccer: did you check the liveCD before trying it out?
[07:00] <valorie> sounds to me like part of the system isn't loaded
[07:00] <valorie> the driver bits
[07:00] <Maccer> valorie: The last time I did, it had the same problem as stated.
[07:01] <valorie> interesting
[07:01] <valorie> I'm not very technical, so I can't really help
[07:01] <valorie> unfortunately
[07:01] <Maccer> Well thanks for helping me anyways, even though it's in the wrong channel.
[07:02] <valorie> I'll bet you get an answer soon on the forum though
[07:02] <valorie> even though it's saturday night/sunday morning
[08:00] <IcarianHeights> s
[11:05] <swmony> hey
[11:56] <donniezazen> Hi all, i just started using Kubuntu. I have been a long time Gnome user. the fonts looks messed up - small thin not-so-smooth like ubuntu. any help please?
[12:01] <valorie> they look great to me, donniezazen -- can you tell us what version of kubuntu, and what fonts you are using?
[12:02] <valorie> maybe a screenshot or two?
[12:02] <donniezazen> i am using maverick with ubuntu fonts
[12:03] <valorie> ah, me too
[12:07] <donniezazen> http://picasaweb.google.com/sudhirskhanger/TechFiles#
[12:08] <donniezazen> here is the link @valorie http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/x6Pw2gKZ-nt3i59uyth0Rw?feat=directlink
[12:09] <valorie> looks rather blurry to me, but that might be just the nature of the screenshot
[12:09] <valorie> in systemsettings, you might be able to change some settings that will help
[12:09] <valorie> unfortunately, I know little about fonts and other settings like that
[12:10] <donniezazen> What does anti-aliasing means?
[12:10] <donniezazen> ok thanks valorie
[12:11] <valorie> anti-aliasing makes it smoother
[12:13] <donniezazen> hmm let me try it. Fonts looks boxed and small
[12:32] <vita_> Hello. I have issue with Thumbnails in Dolphin in Natty.
[12:33] <vita_> I have installed mplayerthumbs (or something like that), enabled it in Dolphin, but thumbnails are not created.
[12:33] <vita_> Any ideas what to do?
[12:33] <donniezazen> what does hinting?
[12:34] <Liontov> hi
[12:34] <vita_> donniezazen: What do you mean?
[12:35] <Liontov> sorry,,,I am new here...anyone may help me?
[12:36] <donniezazen> I meant font hinting. Thanks i should have googled it before. i got it.
[12:38] <Liontov> hi
[12:38] <vita_> donniezazen: Yes. Googel/Wikipedia are allways good start.
[12:38] <vita_> Google
[12:38] <donniezazen> yeah sometime it gets too technical thanks vita
[12:39] <donniezazen> i am new to kubuntu any good guide to beautifying kubuntu
[12:41] <vita_> donniezazen: Guide? Go to systemsettings and wal through it. There is also button "Get hot new stuff" or something like that. It will allow you to search and install various themes/walpapers ...
[12:41] <vita_> wallpapers
[12:44] <donniezazen> vita thanks
[12:58] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[13:20] <ecinx> How do i make my terminal scrreen have colors like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tar_screenshot.png for example
[13:27] <vita_> ecinx: google ".profile linux"
[13:27] <ecinx> ty
[13:30] <ecinx> I'm trying to extract someting
[13:30] <ecinx> and it's not working for me :(
[13:31] <ecinx> http://pastebin.com/rUCK8JpC
[13:32] <vita_> use "tar xjf ..."
[13:32] <vita_> see "man tar'
[13:34] <ecinx> thanks
[13:34] <ecinx> i think that worked
[13:56] <GWild> hello
[13:56] <GWild> I run 10.04 64 and need to turn off automount of USB devices
[13:56] <GWild> system settings --> advanced --> removable devices does not work
[13:57] <GWild> all (except / /boot /home) area deselected
[13:57] <GWild> and every time I plug in a USB device the system mounts is as root
[13:57] <GWild> I want to turn off automatic mounting....
[13:57] <GWild> any suggestions?
[14:01] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: hi
[14:01] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: Hello
[14:01] <GWild> Firebird Raceway outside Phoenix......
[14:01] <GWild> Been thre
[14:01] <GWild> there*
[14:02] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: i have no idea what you are talking about
[14:02] <GWild> Firebird is a Race Track outside Phoenix AZ USA
[14:03] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: "system settings --> advanced --> removable devices does not work" , after doing that is that setting saved?
[14:03] <GWild> yes
[14:03] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: my nick has no connection with that
[14:04] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: can you paste your fstab?
[14:04] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: sure, sec
[14:06] <GWild> http://pastebin.com/DMDtXnF9
[14:06] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd:
[14:06] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: http://pastebin.com/DMDtXnF9
[14:06] <GWild> sorry
[14:08] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: kde version?
[14:08] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: 4.4.5
[14:10] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: is this your removable drive "/dev/sdb3"?
[14:11] <GWild> no - no removable are in the fstab
[14:11] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: I have sdb1/2/3 on a single drive
[14:11] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: ok
[14:11] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: for /, /boot, and swap
[14:11] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: fstab is normal
[14:13] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: what is your removable drive file system?
[14:14] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: vfat
[14:18] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: can you wait
[14:18] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: Yes
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: did you restart after saving your settings?
[14:20] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: Yes
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: did you use any third party softwares?
[14:24] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: like ntfs-config, pysdm?
[14:24] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: not any of those - but I do have VirtualBox PEUL installed.
[14:35] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: can you paste /etc/udev/udev.conf
[14:36] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: You got me thinking and I found something I don't remember installing: USBMount
[14:36] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: I believe that to be my problem.  I uninstalled it and the system settings appear to be working
[14:37] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: embarrassing that I don't remember installing that.....
[14:37] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: good
[14:37] <GWild> phoenix_firebrd: I appreciate the assistance - thanks.
[14:37] <phoenix_firebrd> GWild: welcome
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[15:04] <kubutu> amarok 2.3.9 in tha last few days segfaulting in natty.  Any ideas?  re-installed and still the same.
[15:06] <rork> kubutu: questions about software in Natty ought to be asked in #ubuntu+1 , you can also check launchpad for bug reports
[17:59] <drbobb> kpackagekit segfaulting on kde4.6 RC2 - a known issue?
[19:13] <morpheus_pl> Greetings, I have a problem with desktop launch and search container - the search plugins like calculate or nepomuk doesn't seems to work, however in krunner everything is working perfectly. Any ideas ? Kde 4.5.5
[19:17] <dac> join#ubuntu
[19:20] <marion> good morning afternoon or night depending on were you all live
[19:21] <marion> does anyone know what i do to fix this
[19:21] <marion> wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[19:24] <jillsmitt> hello
[19:24] <jillsmitt> how to create wifi access point?
[19:25] <MontanaX69> Hi all
[19:30] <James147> jillsmitt: create? or connect to?
[19:33] <marion> is anyone familiar with wine?
[19:33] <James147> !ask | marion
[19:34] <marion> how do i fix wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[19:34] <James147> marion: how did you install mono?
[19:34] <marion> i dont know how to install mono
[19:34] <jillsmitt> James147: thanks, i know how... red man
[19:35] <James147> marion: ahh :) then run "winetricks mono26"
[19:35] <James147> that should install it for the default prefix
[19:35] <marion> just type that in?
[19:35] <James147> marion: to a terminal, yes
[19:36] <marion> winetricks: command not found
[19:37] <James147> marion: make sure you have the latest version http://www.winehq.org/download/deb  (
[19:38] <James147> marion: if that still dosent install it then you get get the script from here: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks  (well, it will tell you how to get it)
[19:40] <hellslinger> any kubuntu users have an unknown runlevel in maverick?
[19:42] <yofel> hellslinger: we don't use sys-v-init anymore so I'm not sure what runlevel it's supposed to return
[19:43] <yofel> probably still 2
[19:43] <hellslinger> yeah
[19:43] <hellslinger> there are things that aren't starting up that should be
[19:43] <hellslinger> and I had this problem back in 10.04
[19:43] <hellslinger> the same solution doesn't work
[19:44] <yofel> hm, you could add --verbose to the kernel command line, that will make upstart verbose, and it should make it log the boot to /var/log/boot.log (I think)
[19:44] <hellslinger> oh excellent!
[19:44] <hellslinger> very helpful, thanks
[19:48] <marion> James147: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552271/
[19:50] <James147> marion: make sure apt-get, aptitude or any other package managment isen running
[19:51] <marion> kpackage is closed
[19:51] <marion> is there something like task manager for linux
[19:52] <James147> marion: press alt+escape
[19:52] <James147> ctrl even ^^
[19:52] <James147> ctrl+esc
[20:34] <marion> ok so finaly got mono installed now heres something i did not know. NO USB SUPPORT
[20:34] <marion> I am a sad man
[20:35] <James147> marion: in wine? what are you trying to do with the usb?
[20:36] <marion> read my flash drive that is formatted for xbox
[20:36] <marion> cause i have a program running in wine that reads the xbox file system
[20:36] <James147> marion: then mount it in kubuntu then run "winecfg" and map the mount point to the drive you want wine to see it as
[20:37] <James147> (you may just need to clcik "auto detect" o the drives page of winecfg)
[20:38] <marion> explain please i do not understand
[20:39] <James147> marion: make sure the flash stick is mounted (opening in dolphin should be enough) run "winecfg" then once it opens click on the "drives" tab
[20:40] <James147> marion: then click "auto detect" and check to see if it found it... or add an entry for it manually
[20:42] <marion> do add /media/disk
[20:42] <marion> ??
[20:42] <James147> mendred_: yes
[20:42] <James147> (assuming thats where its mounted)
[20:42] <marion> thats what it says in properties
[20:45] <marion> james i just need to have you on like speed dial or something
[20:45] <James147> :)
[20:46] <James147> i am here most of the time
[20:46] <marion> care to walk me through getting unrar to work properly
[20:46] <James147> :S whats not working about it (not that i know much about unrar)
[20:47] <marion> seriously thats the one thing you cant help me with?
[20:47] <marion> i dont know what to do to unpack a rar file
[20:47] <James147> marion: use ark
[20:47] <shane4ubuntu> marion unrar e package.rar
[20:47] <James147> marion: (or in dolphin right click the file and click extract)
[20:48] <James147> ^^ or that
[20:48] <marion> ark crashes
[20:48] <James147> :(
[20:48] <James147> then what shane4ubuntu said should work
[20:49] <shane4ubuntu> or unrar x package.rar    x is full path, and e is extract files to current directory.
[20:49] <shane4ubuntu> I don't really understand the difference, but think that e is safer, just unpacks it in the directory I'm in.
[20:49] <marion> k let me try that
[20:50] <marion> so first i need to cd /home/marion/Downloads/FFXII correct?
[20:50] <shane4ubuntu> right
[20:50] <James147> marion: assuming thats where you want to extract to then yes
[20:52] <marion> do i have to chmod it?
[20:52] <marion> cause all 3 files failed to extract
[20:52] <James147> marion: hmm, any error?
[20:52] <shane4ubuntu> marion: then probably the rar is bad, rar tends to check the files before extracting them.
[20:53] <James147> (as long as its readble by you then i would say it should work... assuming the archive isent currpt)
[20:53] <shane4ubuntu> rar has a built in checking method and if one archive is bad, missing or incomplete, it will fail.
[20:53] <marion> damn it i wanna hack my game this is becoming more and more difficult by the second
[20:54] <James147> marion: i would try redownloading the archive if you can
[20:54] <James147> and doing an md5sum on it (assuming they provide you what one)
[20:54] <marion> but the executable file that was in the zip the rar was in worked fine
[21:00] <TheGentleman> Hello!  Pls help: in my kubuntu maverik i'm not able to make the bar menu appear anymore. Nor moving the mouse pointer to the lower side of screen, nor pointing at any other side of screen. Moreover clicking on any icon on screen does nothing!  I could open xchat and join this channel using Alt F2
[21:02] <TheGentleman> I think i was distracted by telphone ancd clicked something on the lower bar without realizing what i did....
[21:03] <TheGentleman> System is nearly unusable now: pls help
[21:04] <James147> TheGentleman: did you open the widget dashboard? (is the screen slightly grey?)
[21:04] <TheGentleman> James147, I do not think so. the screen looks normal
[21:05] <James147> TheGentleman: have your tryed loggin out and back in again?
[21:05] <TheGentleman> yes James147 and the problem persists
[21:06] <James147> hmm, i suggest you try creating a new user and seeing if it happens with them (never seen that happen before :S )
[21:07] <rtdos> is there a list of command line only applications somewhere?
[21:07] <TheGentleman> ok James147, I have a "guest" user. will try that. But it has no rights to modify anything on my normal session.
[21:07] <James147> TheGentleman: thats fine, its just to see if its your user or the system
[21:08] <James147> rtdos: google? there are allot of them, its not east to create a list :)
[21:08] <marion> hah i wine installed rar and unpacked the file
[21:09] <James147> rtdos: unless there is something specific you need i cant relly give you much more info
[21:14] <rtdos> James147, I was just wondering if there was a way to grep the repository list for text based apps?
[21:14] <TheGentleman> back
[21:15] <James147> rtdos: possibally, not sure how though
[21:15] <TheGentleman> James147,  the other user works fine. It is only on my session where the desktop is fuked up
[21:17] <James147> TheGentleman: then its most likly a currpt config file... no clue which one though :)   i would suggest starting with kwin and plasma though (they can be found in ~/.kde/share/config)
[21:17] <James147> TheGentleman: delete or rename the config to resset them to teh default settings
[21:17] <James147> (you might need to restar the application or logout and back in)
[21:18] <TheGentleman> going to try that James147
[21:18]  * James147 notes that you can renmae the .kde dir to see if theproblem lies in there, then you can rename it back and either hunt inside or outside of that folder)
[21:19] <TheGentleman> k
[21:19]  * James147 is going to be back in abit ^^ will get any messages when i come back if you highlght me :)
[21:26] <kayleigh> hi all wonder if any one can help me with some IM problems?
[21:31] <rork> !anyone | kayleigh
[21:32] <rtdos> James147, is there a way to get all applications in command line mode?
[21:32] <rtdos> ...without using grep ?
[21:32] <kayleigh> i am new to kubuntu 10.10, i can not get any im service to work at all, hve connection to internet but every app i try for im fails|
[21:33] <kshadeslayer_> rtdos: all applications as in all installed apps?
[21:33] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: so ... whats the issue in kopete? which service?
[21:34] <kayleigh> used kopete, failed to connect used aMSN fail, used Kmess fail??? i am lost now
[21:34] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: dude ... which service? :)
[21:34] <kshadeslayer_> gtalk? MSN? AOL?
[21:34] <BluesKaj> well, kshadeslayer_ , I finally gave up on rekonq ...it's too clunky for me , or I just don't "get it" , in terms of the logic behind the setup procedures
[21:35] <kayleigh> msn sorry must read more!!!
[21:35] <kshadeslayer_> BluesKaj: heh .... it needs work :P
[21:36] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: and which kubuntu version??
[21:36] <kayleigh> 10.10
[21:37] <kshadeslayer_> oh sorry ... i didnt see that earlier ...
[21:37] <rtdos> noaXess, kshadeslayer, sorry i meant all applications available?
[21:37] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: are you using any PPA's ? or stock system?
[21:38] <kshadeslayer_> rtdos: ok ... run : dpkg -l to get a list of all packages available ... and all binary apps should be in /usr/bin or /bin
[21:38] <kayleigh> er like i said i'm new too this.......whats ppa's and stock sys?
[21:40] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: stock system as in .... default install ...
[21:40] <kshadeslayer_> !ppa | kayleigh
[21:40] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: the first thing id like you to do is check if a bug fix release of KDE fixes your issues
[21:41] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.4
[21:41] <whilo> is the 4.6 backport (currently rc2) for maverick already using the raster engine?
[21:41] <kshadeslayer_> whilo: nope
[21:41] <kayleigh> ah! i downloaded standard 10.10 and use the repos that came with it i'll try the bug fix brb
[21:41] <kshadeslayer_> you can change it tho
[21:42] <whilo> something happened in the second half of december
[21:42] <whilo> although i still have a quite slow harddisk my ui has got really snappy
[21:42] <kayleigh> how ?
[21:42] <kshadeslayer_> that could be kwin becoming more efficient .... or something else
[21:43] <whilo> well i have used the beta for 4.6 before i  think. were some of the recent scheduler patches for the kernel backported?
[21:43] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa << follow the instructions there and the link in the channel topic
[21:43] <kshadeslayer_> whilo: nope ... PPA's just contain KDE releases
[21:44] <whilo> kshadeslayer_: sure this was a generic ubuntu question
[21:44] <kshadeslayer_> oh
[21:44]  * kshadeslayer_ thinks
[21:44] <kshadeslayer_> naw
[21:44] <kayleigh> so m looking for a different download of kopete?
[21:44] <kshadeslayer_> would have needed a very controversial SRU
[21:45] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: a bug fix release of KDE ...
[21:45] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: KDE is pretty much the whole GUI you see in front of you
[21:45] <kshadeslayer_> which like any other piece of software has bug fix updates
[21:45] <kayleigh> oh, mine might be broken? this is the only thing that dont work?
[21:46] <kshadeslayer_> could be could not be .... but its always advisable to have bug fix updates installed
[21:48] <kshadeslayer_> BluesKaj: btw did you try rekonq git? or the 0.6.1 release?
[21:49] <kayleigh> am lost here, drowning!!! have searched kde and millions have come back?????
[21:49] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: just install the ppa :D
[21:49] <kshadeslayer_> if it doesnt fix the issue .... then we can proceed ....
[21:53] <kayleigh> i no i'm being a pain cause i dont understand but do i copy this ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa to my repo's?
[21:56] <rtdos> thanks kshadeslayer_
[21:56] <James147> kayleigh: follow this to install it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[21:56] <kshadeslayer_> rtdos: np
[22:00] <sfears> I trashed grub playing with the startup manager.  The stage 1 fix doesn't work and install-grub /dev/sda3 gives errors.  Can anyone help?
[22:01] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: can you pastebin the grub errors?
[22:01] <yofel> sfears: which release are you using?
[22:01] <kshadeslayer_> that too :)
[22:01] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: i didnt know you hang out here :P
[22:02] <yofel> sure I do, I'm everywhere :P
[22:02] <sfears> Cannot create file /boot/grub/915 resolution.mod permission denied kshadeslayer_
[22:02] <sfears> Yofel 10.10.
[22:02]  * yofel wonders if grub2 has a stage1
[22:02] <sfears> I'm booted into live session
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> it doesnt
[22:03] <yofel> !grub2
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> i think he's following the old wiki :P
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> aha
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> old wiki
[22:03] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 <<
[22:04] <yofel> sfears: for reinstalling grub you should follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[22:04] <James147> sfears: ^^ also, you normally install grub to a drive, not a partition (so /dev/sda not /dev/sda1 ... although you can install to sda1)
[22:04] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: that just redirects to the community page
[22:04] <sfears> I didn't trash it with windows.  I restarted before I closed startup-manager
[22:04] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yep ...
[22:04] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: old ... help page
[22:05] <yofel> heh
[22:06] <marion> James147: I get error The program FFXIII Save Editor.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close.
[22:07] <kshadeslayer_> uh ..... o_o
[22:09] <James147> marion: have you looked at http://appdb.winehq.org/  ? not all applications work with wine yet... you might also want to join #winehq for better help with wine
[22:09] <sfears> Kshadeslayer_ yorfel.  When I start the comp I have a grub> prompt
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: yes ... so you need to boot a live cd to fix that
[22:10] <sfears> I did restore using the install grub to the /mnt
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> re-install grub
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> !!!
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> grub doesnt install to /mnt ... it installs to /boot
[22:10] <sfears> Said exited with no errors
[22:10] <kshadeslayer_> see thats why ..
[22:11] <sfears> I followed the directions
[22:11] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: you need to install grub to /dev/sdX
[22:11] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: which ones?
[22:11] <sfears> From your link
[22:11] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 << that one
[22:11] <sfears> I did it correctly
[22:11] <sfears> Yeah
[22:12] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: i think that page is broken as well :P
[22:12] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: one sec
[22:12] <sfears> I'm just typing from a mobile.  Didn't feel like typing the whole grub command.  Swype doesn't recognized
[22:12] <yofel> really? opens fine here
[22:12] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: no ... the instructions are foobared
[22:13] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: yes .. one sec
[22:13] <James147> kshadeslayer_: dont think so, they look correct
[22:13] <sfears> It seemed to work
[22:13] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: use this : http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[22:13] <sfears> Will try
[22:14] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: or use the chroot method from help page
[22:14]  * James147 notes that the other one should work... he has used it before, there is no need to chroot
[22:14] <yofel> they should still work, they just don't include a chroot
[22:14] <kshadeslayer_> chroot always works....
[22:14] <yofel> isn't always needed though
[22:15] <Exilant> For some reason my kde does not seem to recognize some hardware anymore. usb disks do not popup in the device notifier plasmoid or in dolphin, the battery monitor claims there is no battery.  Can someone point me towards a solution? I'm using kubuntu maverick (10.10) with the kubuntu ppa and kde 4.5.5.
[22:15] <kshadeslayer_> since the first method failed, id say its needed now
[22:16] <kshadeslayer_> Exilant: highly unlikely ... but can you check if you still have hal?
[22:16] <yofel> well, worth a try
[22:16] <sfears> Chroot fails
[22:16] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: 4.5.5 certainly depends on hal
[22:16] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: what's the error?
[22:16] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yeah ... but im just making sure
[22:17] <kshadeslayer_> that's why i said .. highly unlikely
[22:17] <yofel> yeah
[22:17] <sfears> '/bin/bash': exec format error
[22:18] <Exilant> kshadeslayer_: "hal is already the newest version.", is there maybe a kde-hal-package?
[22:18] <kshadeslayer_> Exilant: nope ... theres just one hal :)
[22:18] <sfears> Chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': exec format error
[22:18] <yofel> sfears: you are trying to chroot to a 64bit system from a 32bit live disk -> that's impossible
[22:18] <Exilant> i checked that kubuntu-desktop is installed, so i guess i should have all necessary packages
[22:18] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: err ... by any chance ... is the install amd64 and your live usb i386?
[22:18] <sfears> Shit! Forgot... Hold
[22:18] <kshadeslayer_> or vice versa
[22:19] <sfears> Sorry, public room
[22:19] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: chrooting from a 64bit live disk to a 32bit system is possible
[22:19] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: nope ... ive tried and failed many times
[22:19] <yofel> hm, odd, this should technically work fine
[22:20] <kshadeslayer_> well ... idk if our pbuilders can do it ... but it doesnt work that way on live CD's
[22:20] <yofel> sure they can, I often use i386 pbuilders herre
[22:20] <yofel> *here
[22:20] <sfears> Is there a way to do this from the grub prompt?
[22:21] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yeah .. i happened to be in the same grub situation at one time ... couldnt chroot  from a i386 live usb into my amd64 system
[22:21] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: i dont know ....
[22:21] <sfears> If I'm at the prompt it's already installed
[22:21] <yofel> if only the grub.cfg is foobared then it should be possible, but I don't know how to search for the kernel image etc.
[22:21] <yofel> at least not offhand
[22:21] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: well .. theres the os-probe thingy
[22:22] <kshadeslayer_> grub uses that to detect kernels etc
[22:22] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: we're talking about grub prompt, not os-prober
[22:22] <sfears> How do I know if my livecd is 64 bit
[22:22] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yeah .. but cant os-prober be run from grub command prompt
[22:22] <yofel> you can boot from a grub> prompt by entering the config settings by hand (vmlinuz and initrd location and options etc.)
[22:23] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: oh? I didn't know that
[22:23] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: idk either :P
[22:23] <kshadeslayer_> im asking
[22:23] <yofel> sfears: what does uname -m return?
[22:23] <sfears> Alright... Let me boot
[22:24] <yofel> kshadeslayer_: well, I never tried, so I don't know either, but I don't think it's possible
[22:24] <yofel> there is basic ls, cat and other things though for grub2 so you can search around a bit
[22:25] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: this reminds me ... i dont have a maverick pbuilder :P
[22:25] <rork> sfears: you can use the grub commandline to find the kernel and start linux. It's explained here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command%20Line%20and%20Rescue%20Mode for the commands to start linux look in the rescuemode part
[22:27] <sfears> I686. Still get chroot error
[22:27] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: was your install amd64?
[22:27] <sfears> Yes
[22:28] <yofel> then you'll need to get a amd64 live disk
[22:28] <yofel> I would guess that's why grub-install failed too
[22:28] <kshadeslayer_> well ... i couldnt get it to work .... chrooting into an amd64 system with a i386 live disk
[22:28] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: yep
[22:28] <yofel> that's completely impossible to get to work, a 32bit kernel can't handle 64bit addresses
[22:29] <kshadeslayer_> yofel: ah .. so 32 bit chroot's can work on amd64 systems but not the other way around ....
[22:29] <kshadeslayer_> thats why our pbuilders can work :P
[22:29] <yofel> right, the kernel will just fill the upper 32bit address space with zeroes
[22:30] <kshadeslayer_> yep
[22:30] <sfears> I'm not using the right livecd @ i686
[22:30] <sfears> ?
[22:30] <yofel> sfears: yes, you need one for amd64 (64bit)
[22:31] <sfears> Crap..ok
[22:37] <sirius_> hello everyone. i used to be a kde user wayyy back in the days of 3.x and loved every minute of it. ive been thinking of seriosly getting back into it and just finished a clean install about 30 min ago. things are going good but im haing a few minor issues that i was hoping you could help with. i installed my nvidia drivers and set up my dual screens but now it seems like the crispness of the desktop isnt as nice as compared to what it
[22:37] <sirius_>  looked like initially, plus the font looks terrible now. is there anything i can do about this?
[22:39] <James147> sirius_: you can try system settings > application appearence > fonts to edit the fonts (possibally enable/disably anti aliasing) or "kdesudo nvidia-settings" to configure the drivers
[22:40] <sirius_> k ty i will try
[22:44] <kayleigh> hi kshadeslayer i am bck!!!! installed ppa to my sys and have updated 161 packages, sadly kopete still dont connect?
[22:45] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: ok can you run kopete from a konsole?
[22:45] <Exilant> kayleigh: connect to icq?
[22:45] <kshadeslayer_> Exilant: MSN
[22:45] <Exilant> ah
[22:49] <kayleigh> okay ran sudo kopete in konsole which then spat out lots of text and opened kopete
[22:50] <James147> kayleigh: you shoudnt run kopete as root
[22:50] <James147> kayleigh: and you should NEVER run a gui appl with sudo
[22:50] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: sudo? 0.o
[22:50] <kshadeslayer_> MSN doesnt need admin access :P
[22:51] <kayleigh> okay how should i open kopete in konsole like you asked?
[22:51] <kshadeslayer_> yes ....
[22:52] <James147> kayleigh: just run "kopete" no need for sudo
[22:52] <kayleigh> okay
[22:53] <kayleigh> done, ran okay with no text output in shell
[22:56] <kshadeslayer_> bah
[22:56] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: press alt+F2 > type : kdebugdialog
[22:56] <James147> kayleigh: did it manage to connect?
[22:56] <Exilant> kayleigh: run kdebugdialog, enable debug output for kopete (look neaar the end of the (unsorted :(  ) list, try running kopete again
[22:57] <kshadeslayer_> and then what Exilant said :)
[22:57] <Exilant> ah, kdebugdialog has a search function :)
[22:57] <kshadeslayer_> Exilant: yep :)
[22:59] <kayleigh> ran kdebugdialog, selected kopete at the end pressed okay kdebugdialog closed ran kopete from terminal.
[22:59] <kayleigh> do i need to keep kdebugdialog open for this or is there a log some where?
[23:07] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: nope ... just run kopete
[23:08] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: then ... try adding a WLM account  and check what happens in konsole
[23:08] <James147> (making sure you close the other instance first)
[23:09] <kshadeslayer_> James147: can you take over? im going to sleep :)
[23:09] <kshadeslayer_> 4.40 AM ... :P
[23:10] <James147> kshadeslayer_: :p cant try
[23:11] <kshadeslayer_> could be a kopete bug ... cant try ... dont have a WLM account :D
[23:11] <kshadeslayer_> lemme give bugzilla another try
[23:13] <kayleigh> did what u asked , nothing in konsole but did get notification: Cannot conect with the instant messaging server or peers.
[23:15] <kshadeslayer_> ^_^
[23:15] <kayleigh> i have tried other software, pidgin,amsn and kmess so if itd a kopete bug would it effect these as well?
[23:15] <James147> kayleigh: make sure you close the app from the system tray
[23:15] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: looks like the MSN servers are refusing connections
[23:15] <kshadeslayer_> quite possibly they changed protocol's etc
[23:15] <kshadeslayer_> and since other clients are not working as well
[23:16] <kayleigh> i orig thought that but when i try on an xp terminal i connect, this is what stumped me
[23:16] <James147> kayleigh: also make sure you typed the username (with the @hotmail.com) and apssword correctly
[23:17] <kayleigh> mde sure pass and user are correct
[23:17] <kayleigh> thanks for your help shade have  good sleep!!!
[23:19] <kayleigh> you as well james will try later nd hope for the best!!!
[23:19] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: check forum.kde.org  for issues :)
[23:19] <kayleigh> will do
[23:19] <kshadeslayer_> and google and ubuntu forums :D
[23:19] <kshadeslayer_> oh
[23:19] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/394658-kopete-msn-issue.html
[23:20] <sfears> Kshadeslayer_.. I was able to boot from the grub prompt.  Took a little skill but I got it.
[23:20] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: nice :D
[23:20] <sfears> Using the tutorial you gave me
[23:20] <kshadeslayer_> sfears: now just install grub ^_^
[23:20] <James147> sfears: if you ahve booted then just reinstall grub with "sudo install-grub /dev/sda"
[23:21] <James147> sfears: no need to chroot if you managed to boot the system :)
[23:21] <kshadeslayer_> yep
[23:21] <kshadeslayer_> kayleigh: do you have special chars in your password?
[23:22] <James147> kshadeslayer_: ahh yes :) that bug...
[23:22] <kayleigh> one underscore but thought of that and tried with my mom's, all norml chaars, no connection
[23:23] <James147> guess not then
[23:23] <kshadeslayer_> really going to sleep now :P
[23:23] <kshadeslayer_> cya
[23:23] <kayleigh> thaanx
[23:25] <kayleigh> am now getting text output from console
[23:26] <kayleigh> kopete(4805) Kopete::SocketTimeoutWatcher::ackTimeoutCheck: Connection timeout for   QHostAddress( "<IP_ADDRESS>" )
[23:39] <piovisqui> i have update my x11-common package on kubuntu a few minutes ago and restarted my pc... now it is dead
[23:39] <piovisqui> no x server, even failsafe
[23:40] <piovisqui> can someone help me??
[23:40] <piovisqui> the update was released today
[23:44] <pulaski> Hi, I have an amd64 desktop machine which I recently upgraded through the MaverickUpgradesKubuntu page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu from runing Kubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx to Kubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meekrat.
[23:45] <pulaski> Kpackagekit no longer works. It crashes on start-up. Has anyone else experienced this?
[23:46] <James147> pulaski: its a known issue if your using kde 4.6
[23:49] <pulaski> James147: Thanks for responding. My KDE platform is 4.5.95 (4.6 RC2) so that means me right?
[23:50] <James147> pulaski: yeah
[23:56] <pulaski> James147: Thanks. I'm a relative inexperienced Kubuntu user, will going through a number of regular sudo apt-get update / uprgrade processes eventually resolve the issue for me?


[03:24] <nlsthzn> sup
[05:41] <inetpro> good morning
[05:53] <nlsthzn> mornign
[05:53] <nlsthzn> morning even
[05:53] <Kilos> morning inetpro nlsthzn
[05:53] <Kilos> all day till 11.20pm last night without power
[05:54] <nlsthzn> that sucks
[05:54] <Kilos> yeah cold bath and cold sarmies
[05:57] <nlsthzn> :(
[05:57] <Kilos> haha but we maintain
[05:57] <nlsthzn> time to chop down some trees and build fires
[05:59] <Kilos> we have gas bottles and lamps and them stove top things but one expects the power back and time so you make tea and dont start cooking
[06:00] <Kilos> s/and/any
[06:00] <nlsthzn> ah lazy
[06:00] <Kilos> hehe
[06:01] <inetpro> ai!
[06:01]  * inetpro was wondering why it was so quiet in here last night
[06:01] <Kilos> lol
[06:01] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[06:01] <Kilos> shup
[06:01] <inetpro> :-)
[06:01] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[06:02]  * Kilos learned more about the 2TB drive probs
[06:02] <Kilos> testdisk shows 2 fat 16 boot sectors in same place
[06:03] <Kilos> thats where the invalid boot sector comes from
[06:06]  * Kilos needs to reboot to see if changes take effect
[06:06] <Kilos> wbb
[06:10] <Squirm> hi
[07:45] <nlsthzn> wb
[07:45] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy :-)
[07:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :)
[07:46] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn what a schlep
[07:47]  * nlsthzn also just came back online :p
[07:47] <Kilos> btw ty ThatGraemeGuy booting live showed that my home resolution setting were too high for the graphics card till drivers were installed
[07:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> so another problem you wouldn't have had if you had a clean install :-)
[07:48] <Kilos> yip its saving the /home that messed me up
[07:49] <Kilos> now all my buntus use the card. ty
[07:51] <nlsthzn> I keep my /home but delete all the config stuff and only keep the data
[07:51] <nlsthzn> what card you using uncle Kilos
[07:51] <nlsthzn> ?
[07:51] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:52] <Kilos> gainward geforce 210
[07:52] <Kilos> 1024 meg ddr3
[07:52] <nlsthzn> ah ok
[07:52] <nlsthzn> the 5450 not working out for you?
[07:52] <Kilos> that ati one works kiff
[07:53] <Kilos> ya thats on othe pc
[07:53] <Kilos> other
[07:53] <nlsthzn> ah ok :p
[07:53] <Kilos> already been claimed that one
[07:54] <Kilos> ian quit work with the place that abused him and now starting on his own
[07:54] <Kilos> but sits with no pc
[07:54] <Kilos> so i lose
[07:55] <Kilos> kids always be your kids
[07:56] <Kilos> that ati gave no probs at all nlsthzn got drivers in additional with no hassles
[07:57] <nlsthzn> glad to hear and at least you are both enabled by having PC's to use :)
[07:58] <Kilos> yeah ty so much
[07:59] <Kilos> shame man he was being screwed rotten
[07:59] <Kilos> work from 7am till 10pm or later and weekends for 4k a month
[08:00] <Kilos> but as he says he learned lots there so not complaining
[08:01] <nlsthzn> experience, a thing money can't buy
[08:01] <Kilos> yip
[08:05] <Kilos> is it my imagination or is just about everything faster with graphics card installed and working
[08:08] <nlsthzn> if the previous bottleneck was graphics then a better one will improve most everything
[08:09] <nlsthzn> and a decent gpu frees the cpu from burden so that helps a lot
[08:09] <nlsthzn> especially in more gfx intensive DE like KDE
[08:09] <Kilos> ah
[08:11] <nlsthzn> also new drivers often bring more improvements too
[08:11] <nlsthzn> and the right drivers make a big difference also ;p
[08:12] <Kilos> well everything lekker here now so im happy
[08:13] <Kilos> so whether a card is 64bit or more is just what is internal on the card itself
[08:14] <nlsthzn> I have not seen a gfx card advertised as being either 32-bit or 64-bit
[08:14] <nlsthzn> if your OS is 32-bit it uses a 32-bit driver to work with the card and if 64-bit then a 64-bit driver
[08:14] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:15] <nlsthzn> the card doesn't care
[08:15] <nlsthzn> afiak :p
[08:16] <Kilos> where i got this one all their cards show how many bits
[08:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> ai, not this conversation again :-/
[08:49] <Kilos> sorry
[08:56] <nlsthzn> silly XP :/
[08:57] <Kilos> haha
[14:43] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[15:11] <Squirm> hey all
[15:11] <Squirm> anyone happen to know where I can get a 5.8Ghz transmitter/receiver pair?
[15:12] <Squirm> want to use it in my quad
[15:12] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[17:56] <inetpro> good evenings
[18:01] <Symmetria> finally! got the connectivity back to za working like it *SHOULD*
[18:01] <Symmetria> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3299219951
[18:01] <Symmetria> ^^^ from my house to mweb
[18:49] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[18:50] <Kilos> gaan kyk hier
[18:50] <Kilos> http://www.arachnoid.com/JSigGen/index.html
[18:51] <Kilos> then tell me how to make it work here
[18:52] <Kilos> nuvolari:  ping
[18:55] <Kilos> wb not_found wassup your connection
[18:57] <not_found> stuffing around with KDE themes :/
[18:57] <not_found> struggling
[18:58] <Kilos> haha kde can be stressfull setting up hey
[18:58] <Kilos> but once going its so cool
[19:11] <superfly> not_found: is that the steam streaming?
[19:12] <not_found> oh in the last video I uploaded I was just using Steam...
[19:12] <not_found> but I am pretty sure I can get Heartstone to stream...
[19:13] <not_found> I will play some Skyrim via streaming and make another video
[19:13] <superfly> using WINE or native?
[19:13] <not_found> I mean I was using Wine
[19:13] <not_found> not steam sorry
[19:13] <superfly> kk
[19:13] <not_found> Blizzard games work well with steam
[19:26] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:00] <charl> wb Symmetria
[21:00] <charl> hi psydroid


[00:32] <sector327> anyone available to help troubleshoot gnome shell integration issue?>
[00:33] <sector327> I am running UB 16.04LTS, gnome desktop and I had gnome shell integration extension installed on chromium when I was running fedora. Now that I have installed UB, I log into chromium with my google account, it loads all my bookmarks, extensions etc and now I get a constant pop up that there is a Gnome Shell Integration error. "no such interface 'org.gnome.Shell.Extensions' on...???
[14:03] <jamie_1> anyone know why i cant run nautilus as root on wayland? im on 16.10
[14:03] <jamie_1> when i run sudo nautilus i get No protocol specified
[14:03] <jamie_1> Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory
[14:03] <jamie_1> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[14:03] <jamie_1> (nautilus:24930): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[14:04] <jamie_1> im guessing it has to do with the display server not working with the terminal as expected, its trying to open a x11 setup instead
[14:06] <jamie_1> im gonna swap back to x11
[17:10] <mgedmin> how is samba browsing supposed to work?
[17:11] <mgedmin> I can access my local samba server with smbclient -N //server/share; nautilus cannot see it
[17:11] <mgedmin> am I missing packages?
[17:19] <mgedmin> is it the firewall?
[17:19] <mgedmin> (but smbclient works so it can't be the firewall, right?)
[17:19] <mgedmin> wait, browsing != connecting
[19:04] <freakyy> hi all. how can i get rid of the .. top window border bar of firefox in latest firefox and ubuntu 16.10?
[19:11] <freakyy> and does anyone know how i can login with gnome-twitch to twitch? oO
[21:10] <sector327> anyone available to help troubleshoot gnome shell integration issue?


[12:49] <str0ng> .
[19:13] <Francis> hi guys, can some1 please help me?
[19:14] <Francis> guys?
[19:22] <bhearsum> hi
[19:22] <bhearsum> what's up?
[19:22] <Francis> nothing much, I'm just having a bit of trouble with my linux
[19:22] <Francis> and you do speak Tagalog, ya?
[19:23] <bhearsum> kaunti lang
[19:23] <Francis> ah ok :p
[19:23] <bhearsum> pero makakatagalog ka :)
[19:23] <Francis> ok :)
[19:23] <Francis> do you know how to fix video lags?
[19:25] <Francis> bhearsum: still there?
[19:25] <bhearsum> hmmm, i haven't hit that in a long time -- but what application / hardware / version are you using?
[19:25] <Francis> ubuntu linux 9.10 something, I'm not really sure lol
[19:26] <bhearsum> heh
[19:26] <bhearsum> can you describe the scenariom ore?
[19:26] <Francis> what do you mean
[19:26] <bhearsum> what application are you using? where is the video stored? is it in a browser, or local?
[19:27] <Francis> i have no idea since I only use this to play games and chat, sorry
[19:27] <bhearsum> i see
[19:27] <bhearsum> so...what video are you playing?
[19:28] <Francis> Rs :p
[19:29] <bhearsum> Rs?
[19:29] <Francis> well, naglalag ako kahit di ako naglalaro ng games
[19:29] <bhearsum> ooooooooooh
[19:30] <Francis> like, if I move my mouse from left to right? it would stop then move then stop then move
[19:30] <bhearsum> i get it now
[19:30] <bhearsum> i thought you meant video as in movie
[19:30] <Francis> hahaha noooooooooooo
[19:30] <bhearsum> ok, so what video card do you have?
[19:30] <Francis> Like I said, I dont really know much about Linux, sorry :c
[19:31] <Francis> is there anyway that we could find out?
[19:31] <bhearsum> yeah
[19:31] <bhearsum> try 'sudo lspci' in the console?
[19:31] <Francis> console and terminal are the same right?
[19:31] <bhearsum> right
[19:32] <Francis> it says: unable to resolve host acerlaptop
[19:33] <bhearsum> that's unrelated
[19:33] <Francis> so what do we do now? :s
[19:33] <bhearsum> it should say more than that....
[19:34] <Francis> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[19:34] <Francis> ^ that?
[19:34] <bhearsum> yes
[19:34] <bhearsum> ok...
[19:35] <Francis> sa school ko ang bilis ng Linux lol
[19:35] <bhearsum> siguro slow video card ang lag mo
[19:35] <Francis> probably.. is there anyway that we/I could fix it?
[19:35] <bhearsum> laptap ba iyan?
[19:35] <Francis> yea
[19:36] <bhearsum> hindi pwede :(
[19:36] <Francis> :(
[19:36] <bhearsum> well...bibili ka ng bagong laptop :)
[19:36] <Francis> FML
[19:36] <bhearsum> sorry
[19:36] <Francis> it's all good
[19:36] <bhearsum> which game is laggy, anyways?
[19:36] <Francis> well, do you know how to reduce lags?
[19:37] <Francis> Runescape
[19:37] <bhearsum> oh...
[19:37] <bhearsum> that video card is just really really slow
[19:37] <Francis> well, runescape used to be fast
[19:37] <bhearsum> oh, really?
[19:37] <Francis> my system used to be fast
[19:37] <bhearsum> oh...i see
[19:37] <Francis> yea! but then the screen got broken (naiwan ko mouse sa loob tapos tinupi ko then natulog ako)
[19:38] <Francis> pagkagising ko durog durog na yung screen, LOL
[19:38] <Francis> natabunan ko, hahaha
[19:38] <bhearsum> ouch
[19:38] <Francis> yeppers
[19:38] <Francis> then i gave it back to my dad
[19:39] <Francis> then kinuha ko ulet sa knya kasi pwede naman i connect sa monitor
[19:39] <Francis> then ya... it started laggin after that
[19:39] <bhearsum> ah...
[19:39] <bhearsum> it's possible that there's other damage to it, too
[19:39] <Francis> like?
[19:39] <bhearsum> for example, kung damage sa hard drive....mabagal ang lahat
[19:39] <Francis> that's probably why
[19:40] <bhearsum> it's really the only other thing that could be damage by something like that
[19:40] <bhearsum> that sucks man, sayang!
[19:40] <Francis> yea bad trip lol
[19:40] <Francis> so wala ng lunas to but to buy another laptop?
[19:41] <bhearsum> siguro mag-rereplace ng hard drive, depends on the laptop though
[19:41] <Francis> mahal ang hard drive, lol
[19:41] <bhearsum> yeah
[19:41] <bhearsum> probably not worth it, either
[19:42] <Francis> i see
[19:42] <Francis> well na reduced yung lag ko when some1 made me install the flash-block thing
[19:43] <bhearsum> interesting
[19:43] <bhearsum> nagtry ka bang mag-shutdown ng ibang applications before maglaro ng runescape?
[19:43] <Francis> yea
[19:43] <Francis> di lang nmn games problem ko tol
[19:43] <Francis> as in lahat, lol
[19:43] <bhearsum> ah right
[19:44] <bhearsum> sorry ha, ewan ko na :(
[19:44] <Francis> ok it's np
[19:44] <Francis> got 1 more question
[19:44] <bhearsum> sure
[19:45] <Francis> na try mo na ma disconnect cuz you were loading/downloading something?
[19:45] <Francis> lagi akong nadidisconnect sa router ko whenever i download/laod something
[19:45] <bhearsum> huh
[19:45] <Francis> load*
[19:45] <bhearsum> hasn't happened to me
[19:45] <bhearsum> may ibang laptops sa router? magdisconnect ba mga iyan?
[19:46] <Francis> nope, laptop ko lang nag didisconnect
[19:46] <Francis> i think it's a bug *sigh*
[19:46] <bhearsum> heh
[19:46] <bhearsum> siguro ang bug sa driver...o ang bug sa wireless adapter
[19:46] <Francis> probably
[19:47] <bhearsum> siguro dapat kang mag-upgrade sa ubuntu 10.10, siguro may bagong driver
[19:47] <Francis> I'll just hope for a new laptop this x-mas then i guess lol
[19:47] <bhearsum> haha
[19:47] <bhearsum> taga-canada ka ba?
[19:47] <Francis> yep :p
[19:47] <bhearsum> ah, cool
[19:47] <Francis> lam ko na taga Canada ka cuz of "heh" lol
[19:47] <bhearsum> mura-mura ang mga laptop dito :)
[19:48] <bhearsum> o hindi, may "shawcable.net" sa hostmask mo
[19:48] <Francis> meh.. I want a dual core with a video card para sulit ang gaming lol
[19:48] <bhearsum> hah :)
[19:48] <bhearsum> hopefully, better go visit santa
[19:49] <Francis> lol
[19:49] <Francis> magkano kaya laptop na ganun?
[19:49] <Francis> dual core with video card
[19:50] <bhearsum> depends on the brand.....siguro as cheap as $500 or $600 galing sa Dell
[19:50] <bhearsum> pero ok lang iyan, hindi bilis-bilis
[19:51] <bhearsum> mas mura ang mabilis na desktop kaysa sa laptop
[19:51] <Francis> true that
[19:51] <Francis> pero ok laptop for my college nxt year
[19:51] <Francis> di ba
[19:51] <Francis> damn it i need a new 1 asap, lol
[19:51] <bhearsum> ang $500 o $600 na dell?
[19:52] <Francis> ha!
[19:52] <Francis> i think i've found a solution bro!
[19:53] <Francis> look at this
[19:53] <Francis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306042&page=2
[19:53] <Francis> that's what I'm experiencing right now
[19:54] <bhearsum> o talaga?
[19:54] <Francis> what's with "acer_wmi" lol
[19:54] <Francis> ya tol
[19:54] <Francis> my ubuntu pc also lag.it lags when moving window,open window,clicking,while typing this, and firefox lag,video in firefox lag.
[19:54] <Francis> horrible, indeed.
[19:54] <Francis> however it doesnt lag when writing in terminal.
[19:54] <Francis> ^
[19:54] <bhearsum> nabobo ako eh
[19:54] <Francis> wasn't your fault bro lol
[19:54] <bhearsum> weird that it only happened after the damage though
[19:55] <Francis> i think it's because of that 9.10 update as well
[19:55] <bhearsum> oh, you did that around teh same time?
[19:55] <Francis> would you recommend removing acer_wmi?
[19:55] <bhearsum> worth a try
[19:55] <Francis> ok how tho?
[19:55] <Francis> lol
[19:55] <bhearsum> hehe
[19:55] <bhearsum> umm
[19:56]  * bhearsum tries to remember
[19:56] <bhearsum> 'rmmod acer_wmi'
[19:56] <bhearsum> i think...
[19:56] <Francis> gosh lol
[19:56] <Francis> hold on
[19:56] <bhearsum> oo, rmmod
[19:57] <Francis> Module acer_wmi does not exist in /proc/modules
[19:57] <bhearsum> =\
[19:57] <bhearsum> walang acer_wmi ka
[19:57] <Francis> fudge
[19:57] <bhearsum> so...probably not the problem
[19:57] <bhearsum> it's still probably worth trying an upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10
[19:58] <bhearsum> i doubt it could make it worse
[19:58] <Francis> pano ko ulet malalaman kung anong version ng linux gamit q?
[19:59] <bhearsum> sorry, sa english? hindi akong naintindi
[20:00] <Francis> how would I supposed to know what version of Linux that I'm using right now?
[20:01] <bhearsum> ooh
[20:01] <bhearsum> sinabi mo ba ang Ubuntu 9.10?
[20:02] <bhearsum> in any case, "cat /etc/issue" will tell you
[20:02] <Francis> 10.04 tol
[20:02] <bhearsum> oh
[20:02] <bhearsum> still, luma iyan!
[20:03] <Francis> lol
[20:04] <Francis> pano ko makukuha 10.10 tol?
[20:04] <bhearsum> galing sa ubuntu.com
[20:05] <Francis> ok hold on
[20:05] <bhearsum> hey, sorry, kailangan ko nang magwork
[20:05] <Francis> ok bye
[20:05] <Francis> tc and thanks
[20:06] <bhearsum> np, cheers
[20:06] <bhearsum> good luck!
[20:06] <Francis> you too :D