[21:19] <Kyle__> igi69: Confirm which?
[21:19] <Guest16403> how do i install my video games? Ubuntu cant' read them?
[21:19] <Kyle__> igi69: The bluetooth stuff?
[21:19] <soreau> wally__: Or fine someone that cares enough about you kicking your card in the balls to help ;) What's the issue btw?
[21:19] <soreau> sensae: I have no idea
[21:19] <igi69> Kyle: that the blootooth works in 10.04
[21:20] <tulimaq_> Guest16403: ubuntu is not windows
[21:20] <cwheeler> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 I need to get the grub menu at boot so I can run memtest, holding shift or esc doesn't work. there's no /boot/grub/menu.lst referenced in the docs
[21:20] <wally__> well, my browsers crash whenever i'm running any games and i get a message constantly while trying to run games
[21:20] <wally__> sec
[21:20] <igi69> Klyle: that the bluetooth mic works in 10.04
[21:20] <guntbert> Kyle__: its a security measure - if an (uncfigured) server is only listen on localhost it cannot do much harm :-)
[21:20] <Kyle__> igi69: I've used it.  I don't recall having to install anything either, but my laptop is at home, so I can't check.
[21:20] <pfifo> Guest16403, unfortunatly video games are made for windows, you will not be able to play them.
[21:20] <wally__> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[21:20] <katspaugh> cwheeler: /etc/defaults/grub
[21:20] <Guest16403> then how do i go back to windows? i look for it, but it's not here?
[21:21] <Kyle__> guntbert: Yea, but comeon :) snmp isn't installed by default, you ahve to manually add it.  That should be security measure enough that you want to monitor it remotely.
[21:21] <igi69> Kyle: thank you anyway
[21:21] <tulimaq_> Guest16403: u can get some of the windows software working with wine though .. but if u are gamer u probably want to use windows for your games
[21:21] <whlspacedude> Guest16403: unless they run under wine see http://appdb.winehq.org/ for specific game info,
[21:21] <pfifo> Guest16403, I recommend taking your computer to geek squad if your brother cannot fix it, this channel is for ubuntu linux related support and we can not and will not assist you with windows related problems
[21:21] <wally__> or dosbox if your like me
[21:22] <guntbert> Kyle__: you will find that on many servers
[21:22] <Kyle__> igi69: Is it not working for you, or you're wavering on buying a cheap headset.
[21:22] <Guest16403> wine? i will look at teh link. thank you =)
[21:22] <Kyle__> guntbert: In this case, it's on desktops (lab machines).  I genearlly have snmp turned on on everything.  Makes monitoring easy.
[21:22] <Guest16403> pfifo don't be a butt. =( other people trying to help me.
[21:23] <guntbert> Kyle__: I don't argue - I only told the the rationale behind
[21:23] <igi69> Kyle: well the mic I have was cheap, but the audio output sounds great, is only the mic that is not working
[21:23] <Scyzor> hey guys, I'm trying to compile Mesa 7.8.1. I did the instructions but nothing changes on glxinfo. I'm guessing I need to set the installation directory, what should it be ? I'm on Lucid
[21:24] <Kyle__> guntbert: I know, I just think it's overzeallous, but it's a fair argument
[21:24] <Lajosward> I have a problem i accidentally removed the internet monitor from the panel now i ahve to have it auto connect in order to connect was wondering how to get it back on there
[21:24] <cwheeler> katspaugh what do I do with /etc/defaults/grub put the memtest line from /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/grub-menu.lst in it?
[21:24] <Kyle__> igi69: Ahh.  Well, you can get lots of cheap bluetooth headsets (no promise as to quality or longevity) from online-tiwaneese-shops.
[21:25] <igi69> the mic is not working in my pc but is working in the laptop, but the laptop is old and slow and gets easyli hot so I cannot use to talk with ekiga or skype, that is why i would like to solve the problem with my mic, the only thing that does not work
[21:25] <wally__> anyone here knowledgeable about video card issues?
[21:25] <tic^> !grub2 | cwheeler
[21:25] <tulimaq_> !ask | wally__
[21:26] <Scyzor> what should the installation directory be for Mesa ?
[21:26] <Kyle__> igi69: Sorry to say, sounds like a driver issue :/
[21:26] <wally__> well my issues is this : Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem, and my browser crashes when i try to play games on facebook, etc
[21:26] <Kyle__> Scyzor: mesa is a library, should be /usr/lib, unless you built it yourself.
[21:26] <pfifo> wally__, I am, ive been following your conversation and I recommend getting a real video card, yours is pretty out dated
[21:26] <igi69> have your read my post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504904 ?
[21:27] <igi69> have your read my post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504904 ? and sounds as a driver issue?
[21:27] <wally__> okay, and say i don't have money to get a "real video card" as you so eloquently put it
[21:27] <Scyzor> Kyle__: I built it myself this time, by default it installs in /usr/local/lib, thanks for telling me
[21:27] <thune3> igi69: is this a usb mic, or a mic plugged into the sound card?
[21:27] <pfifo> wally__, You can also try downgrading the flashplayer, and disabling hardware rendering in flash options
[21:27] <zonyl> Hi.  I am on a wireless connection with 17% packet loss (not in my control unfortunately).  My connections are losing packets and it is seemingly taking forever for retries to occur.  Can someone recommend some settings to try in order to make Ubuntu tolerate a flakey connection better? (lower tcp timeouts / etc)?
[21:27] <avi_> Hi, I just installed the very new ATI Catalyst Control Center (10.6), because it has been confimed to fix a certain bug on my card and other cards. I installed it OK, and it indeed fixed the bug. However, when I logged out, I was unable to log back in; at the GDM after logging in as myself and inputting my password, I the screen blinked a few times, then it just reloaded GDM. Is there any way to remove the ATI drivers (fglrx) entirely from m
[21:27] <avi_> system from the repair mode in grub, dropping to the root console?
[21:27] <katspaugh> cwheeler: no, the memtest is already there. Just adjust the timeout.
[21:27] <Kyle__> Scyzor: autoconf (the program that makes the configure script), defaults to /usr/local, so you don't overwrite yoru system libraries :) yea.
[21:28] <cwheeler> katspaugh that last url seems to have the answer
[21:28] <katspaugh> cwheeler: after editing the config file, do a grub-update.
[21:28] <igi69> thune3: i think is a mic plugged into the sound card, because I plugged in a pink jack in the front part of the tower
[21:28] <katspaugh> cwheeler: OK.
[21:28] <YertleTheTurtle> I'm having trouble with the NVIDIA drivers. The Hardware drivers tool says its activated and currently in use, but the X errors on boot saying the kernel modules are not loaded. This was working yesterday and just started this morning.
[21:28] <pfifo> wally__, you may also find luck by using the standard VGA drive for X instead of nvidia's driver (if you installed it)
[21:28] <Scyzor> Kyle__: but shouldn't that usually happen ? I mean the overwriting
[21:28] <wally__> explain that last part
[21:29] <Kyle__> igi69: THat sounds exactly like the issue I had with my laptop before 10.04. It's a driver issue.
[21:29] <Kyle__> Scyzor: No, by default you don't want to overwrite the libraries that come with your distribution.
[21:29] <chazco> Are there any plans to release an updated Ubuntu 10.04 livecd that boots with nvidia hardware? Wanting to upgrade from 9.10...
[21:30] <Kyle__> Scyzor: so putting them in /usr/local/ is the right thing.  That way you can always put in LD_PRELOAD flags to load the origonal ones, if needed, without having to remove the new ones.  Or vice versa.
[21:30] <pfifo> wally__, if you installed any "restricted" drivers uninstall them, this will disable any hardware based video acceleration, which might be causing problems with flash
[21:30] <sebsebseb> chazco: no
[21:30] <Scyzor> Kyle__: why doesn't glxinfo show my new mesa version then ?
[21:30] <igi69> Kyle; it it is a driver issue it will not help a bluetooth mic?
[21:30] <chazco> Pity... guess i'll wait till 10.10.. if that doesn't work then I'll look at switching distros :(
[21:31] <Lajosward> I have a problem i accidentally removed the internet monitor from the panel now i have to have it auto connect in order to connect was wondering how to get it back on there
[21:31] <sebsebseb> chazco: also the propritary driver is well yeah propritary closed source software, that only Nivida can do stuff with.  As for the new open source driver in 10.04,  thats ok, but lacks certian features.
[21:31] <Kyle__> igi69: A different driver takes care of bluetooth.  Essentially the bluetooth device will show up as another sound card.
[21:31] <Scyzor> Kyle__: or why doesn't X load my new drivers from /usr/local ?
[21:31] <mizerydearia> echo "Test"|festival --tts  <----- How can I output this so that I can record into an audio file such as ogg vorbis, mp3, flac, etc?
[21:31] <Kyle__> Scyzor: I don't know.  Did you run ldconfig aftger installing?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> chazco: 10.04 offers little proper advantage over 9.10 anyway
[21:31] <Scyzor> Kyle__: No, will try that
[21:32] <igi69> KYle; if it is a driver issue, how did you make it work?
[21:32] <chazco> sebsebseb - It's not the propietry one that's the problem... in 9.04 and 9.10 (and possibly earlier) my nvidia card worked correctly by default (ie, full resolution)... with 10.04 I either can't boot or if I use the nomodeset option I can boot but only at 640x480 and nothing will change it...
[21:32] <Kyle__> Scyzor: ldconfig tells it to find the new libs :)
[21:32] <wally__> how do i go babout this?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> chazco: report a bug then or something I guess
[21:33] <Scyzor> Kyle__: It did nothing, are there any parameters or flags ?
[21:33] <sebsebseb> chazco: if your not using the propritary driver
[21:33] <onix> hello, how can I have java on firefox?
[21:33] <Kyle__> igi69: With 9.x, I didn't.  With 10, they updated the drivers.  You can compile your own drivers/etc/etc, but there's no garuntee.  On the other hand I _know_ the bluetooth works.
[21:33] <onix> sun-java6-bin not found
[21:33] <khvkjxbvh> alguém sabe me falar se o hd externo sem cooler é mais fácil de queimar
[21:33] <Kyle__> Scyzor: type ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo
[21:33] <khvkjxbvh> ?
[21:33] <igi69> thank you again for your tip
[21:33] <Kyle__> Scyzor: that will tell you which libraries it's using.  IF it's not using the ones youw ant, then try LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/library/you/want.so glxinfo
[21:34] <iceroot> !muliverse | onix
[21:34] <wally__> i'm having similar problems to you chazco
[21:34] <khvkjxbvh> #ubuntu-br
[21:34] <wally__> with 9.10 i worked great
[21:34] <igi69> is it a problem with the nvidia or with all 10.04?
[21:34] <iceroot> !universe | onix
[21:34] <Scyzor> Kyle__: loads the libraries from /usr/lib, my compile defaults to /usr/local/lib
[21:34] <julioh> Hi
[21:34] <sebsebseb> igi69: problem with Nivida I guess
[21:34] <julioh> somebody cant help me
[21:34] <Scyzor> Kyle__: so how do I make X load the new ones ?
[21:34] <steffan> !ask | julioh
[21:34] <sebsebseb> since any open source driver is reverse engined for Nivida, which is a rather difficult programming task
[21:34] <iceroot> onix: hmok, ubottu is not very usefull. sun-java6 is not free and because of that not in the normal repos, you have to enable the correct repo to jave sun-java6
[21:34] <julioh> steffan, thx
[21:35] <sebsebseb> since Nivida won't provide proper details, so that open source drivers can be made easilly for the cards
[21:35] <onix> iceroot, ok ty
[21:35] <Kyle__> Scyzor: check /etc/ld.so.conf
[21:35] <Kyle__> Scyzor: see if it's looking at /usr/local/lib at all.
[21:35] <oal> Isn't there an xorg.conf file anymore?
[21:35] <julioh> I have a problen with ubuntu 10.04, No Sound with Intel G45
[21:35] <julioh> i probe that http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9348801
[21:35] <julioh> but notting happens
[21:35] <sebsebseb> chazco:  I guess your issue is to do with noveau or whatever its called,  the new open source driver in 10.04,  well that program will improve as time goes on
[21:36] <Zamboli> this missing networkmanager applet is a common problem huh
[21:36] <onix> iceroot: i have actuvated multiverse sources in sourcemanager: it still doesn't work
[21:36] <chazco> sebsebseb - The odd thing is that the old free driver worked great, i'd imagine its the noveau driver they've switched too... i'd like to switch to 10.04 for other reasons (e.g. native touchscreen support), but oh well
[21:36] <sebsebseb> chazco: have you tried the propritary driver in 10.04?
[21:36] <Scyzor> Kyle__: Yes, GL.conf loads from /usr/lib, I'll change that. Thanks a billion
[21:36] <julioh> this is mi sound card Intel G45 mi computer is
[21:36] <julioh> sony vaio
[21:36] <Kyle__> No problem.
[21:37] <iceroot> onix: sudo apt-get update
[21:37] <chazco> sebsebseb - At one point I installed 9.10, install the nvidia driver then upgraded to 10.04. That worked, but I don't like upgrades. With the livecd the graphics break at various points depending what you do, so can't install that way. Considering trying the alternate install CD.
[21:37] <julioh> nobady
[21:37] <Lajosward> how do you go back to the original settings for the os
[21:37] <holmser> I want to test my spam filter.  Where can I post my email address to make sure that I get a ton of spam?
[21:38] <sebsebseb> chazco: oh you didn't get a boot up issue after upgrading from 9.10 with propritary driver installed?
[21:38] <onix> iceroot: still not luck
[21:38] <julioh> hmm
[21:38] <LjL> !ot | holmser
[21:38] <julioh> ask
[21:38] <julioh> !ask
[21:38] <chazco> sebsebseb - Nope, it did work that work. But I find upgrades tend to be much worse for stability etc.
[21:38] <georgem> Where do I get the absolutely most bleeding edge installer ISO for testing/development purposes?
[21:38] <holmser> its my spam filter on my ubuntu server, sort of on topic
[21:38] <holmser> ?
[21:38] <iceroot> onix: can you paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" to pastebin?
[21:38] <sebsebseb> chazco: updates tend to be much worse for stability?
[21:38] <iceroot> !paste | onix
[21:38] <pfifo> holmser, http://craigslist.org
[21:39] <sebsebseb> chazco: well apparantly when LTS gets point releases it becomes more stable
[21:39] <julioh> thanks for you help
[21:39] <chazco> sebsebseb - As in dist-upgrades... they tend to leave little traces and other small flukes which add on to the usual new release bugs
[21:39] <_jesse_> georgem: there's the daily build http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[21:39] <julioh> nobody  help me
[21:39] <pfifo> holmser, goto the personals section
[21:39] <julioh> :-p
[21:39] <guntbert> holmser: no, this is ubuntu support, not talk about something that runs on ubuntu
[21:39] <chazco> sebsebseb - Oh, so there is going to be a 10.04 updated CD?
[21:39] <georgem> jesse: thanks
[21:39] <sebsebseb> chazco: yes, but as far as I know it will be mainly or only security updates
[21:39] <onix> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/451769/
[21:39] <_jesse_> georgem: that's acutally kubuntu :p but you can find ubuntu's by googling nightly or daily build
[21:39] <iceroot> chazco: in some months
[21:40] <sebsebseb> chazco: and what people already doing 10.04,  can get from repo, if still using it then
[21:40] <georgem> _jesse_: I'm a gnome hater anyway so that'll work. lol
[21:40] <katspaugh> Is a question about Ubuntu konquering the world offtopic enough to ask it on #ubuntu-offtopic or should it be asked here?
[21:40] <chazco> iceroot / sebsebseb - Well, at least that's a chance then
[21:40] <sebsebseb> chazco:  9.10 netbook?
[21:40] <LjL> katspaugh: -offtopic ;)
[21:40] <julioh> cock suckers
[21:40] <sebsebseb> !language  | juju2143
[21:40] <sebsebseb> ah not you juju2143
[21:40] <iceroot> onix: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search sun java   is ot showing sun-java6-jre?
[21:41] <chazco> sebsebseb - Nope, not netbook versions... just the usual desktop version on all machines
[21:41] <juju2143> wat
[21:41] <juju2143> sebsebseb, !
[21:41] <georgem> julioh: ?
[21:41] <sebsebseb> georgem: yes them
[21:41] <_jesse_> georgem: hehe I must have known somehow
[21:41] <sebsebseb> chazco: 10.04 has touch screen support?
[21:41] <sebsebseb> chazco: and 9.10 doesn't?
[21:42] <chazco> sebsebseb - For some devices (including my touchscreen mod), yes
[21:42] <chazco> sebsebseb - 9.10 does have support but it's a major pain to get working
[21:42] <onix> iceroot: no
[21:42] <sebsebseb> chazco: well 9.10 is still supported untill the end of April next year on the desktop
[21:42] <chazco> sebsebseb - 9.10 uses evtouch for that, 10.04 uses evdev and xinput.
[21:42] <xpike> is it possible for me to update from 8.04 to 10.1 without reinstalling?
[21:42] <georgem> I got a larger harddrive in my spare work laptop so I'm loading up the newest nightly to do some weekend kernel hacking =)
[21:43] <sebsebseb> chazco: and yeah 10.10 and 11.04 before 9.10 stops being supported
[21:43] <LJRuff> xpike, you'll have to go through 9.04 and 9.10 to do so, I think.
[21:43] <LJRuff> 8.10 too
[21:43] <iceroot> !info sun-java6-jre
[21:43] <onix> iceroot: jre says that the package exists in the base but there is no available version, the software may be obsolete...
[21:43] <sebsebseb> chazco: 9.10 will even get a proper Firefox update soon, unless its already happended
[21:43] <xpike> damn, how long will that take
[21:44] <whlspacedude> xpike: much faster to just reinstall
[21:44] <iceroot> !info sun-java6-jre karmic
[21:44] <LJRuff> xpike, Honestly? It'd be a lot shorter to just reinstall
[21:44] <pfifo> xpike, short answer is yes, but it will probbally be a pain and might not work
[21:44] <iceroot> onix: ah ok, i am on karmic. i guess sun-java6-jre moved to the partner repo in 10.04
[21:44] <LJRuff> pfifo, probably be a pain? Lol - it will most certainly be a pain. =P
[21:44] <sebsebseb> chazco: Newer is not always better!
[21:45] <giannis> hellow
[21:45] <giannis> hello
[21:45] <igi69> kyle: a sily question, may I use a bluetooth headseat for mobiles or I need something specific for pcs? do I need to install anything in order to make the bluettoth work? would it appears in ubuntu as a new device?
[21:45] <LJRuff> !hi | giannis
[21:45] <giannis> !
[21:45] <sebsebseb> chazco: Its ok to use 9.10 whilst still supported.
[21:45] <chazco> sebsebseb - Agreed, but 10.04 did have some tempting stuff... on the other hand it looks like a horrible WIndows/Mac mashup :)
[21:45] <giannis> i have a very important problem
[21:45] <pfifo> xpike, let me rephrase that, "It might turn out to be quite a learning experience"
[21:45] <onix> iceroot: can I use default-jre and openjdk-6-jre?
[21:45] <iceroot> onix: yes, sun-java6-jre is now in the partner repos (google told me so) so you have to enable the partner-repo
[21:45] <sebsebseb> chazco: tempting stuff such as?
[21:45] <LJRuff> !ask | giannis
[21:45] <onix> iceroot: how?
[21:45] <iceroot> onix: you can install sun-java6 and openjdk-java6
[21:46] <LJRuff> I do not like the look of 10.04, but I do enjoy many of the features. I still think 9.10 was the best looking Ubuntu to date.
[21:46] <giannis> ok then
[21:46] <onix> iceroot: great, thanks
[21:46] <chazco> sebsebseb - Touchscreen for one, decent boot time and good battery life (on my netbook at least) and similar
[21:46] <wally__> i agree ljruff
[21:46] <iceroot> onix: open up your sources.list and write partner and the end of the line
[21:46] <wally__> 9.10 was amazing
[21:46] <giannis> i cannot connect to the internet with my wireless
[21:46] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: yeah I don't like the look much either, yep brown human theme :)
[21:46] <giannis> what can i do?
[21:46] <steffan> !wireless | giannis
[21:46] <sensae> Hello. I have an mdadm raid but when I start my PC up it hangs, I must pull up a recovery console and manually construct the RAID before continuing to boot.
[21:46] <xpike> whats the main difference between Debian Linux and Ubuntu Linux
[21:46] <LJRuff> The black and silver login screen still makes me drool. =P
[21:46] <iceroot> onix: # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner    its already in your file, just remove the "#"
[21:46] <steffan> !debian | xpike
[21:47] <iceroot> onix: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[21:47] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: used that brown theme for years, and not that keen on black themes, so yeah
[21:47] <georgem> xpixe: Ubuntu is more hip and cool. j/k
[21:47] <iceroot> xpike: ubuntu = actual and based on unstable, debian = old and stable
[21:47] <sebsebseb> chazco: did you do netbook version on the netbook?
[21:48] <chazco> sebsebseb - Nah, hate the netbook remix
[21:48] <xpike> Ah I see iceroot that seems like a valid statement lol
[21:48] <chazco> sebsebseb - My netbook isn't the usual eeepc type though, it's an MSI Wind modded to excess :D
[21:48] <iceroot> xpike: but unstable is not meaned to be negative its just a name in the debian-world
[21:49] <slow-motion> bbl
[21:49] <ralphte> How to you install ubuntu 10.04 in text mode
[21:49] <sebsebseb> chazco: well they are going to be changing that, since Unity and such.  I have a feeling that 10.10 might be better as a netbook OS than a desktop OS, since no Gnome 3's  Shell by default either, 11.04 probably so though.
[21:49] <iceroot> !alternate | ralphte
[21:49] <AAA> iceroot  have you ever used unstable on a debian box? it is named that for a reason
[21:49] <goldins> euca_conf --list-nodes doesn't show any of my nodes, what should I do?
[21:49] <xpike> latley everything has been crashing on my box lol
[21:49] <iceroot> AAA: and offtopic :)
[21:49] <ralphte> got it
[21:49] <xpike> no 64 bit support
[21:50] <steffan> giannis: if you can keep chat inside the channel - I may not be able to help with your specific question, so asking here will allow others users to join in and help too
[21:51] <giannis> i cannot follow the dialog it is too fast
[21:51] <steffan> giannis: explain the problem. what you have tried and what has failed - with appropriate pastebins of any errors you encounter
[21:51] <xpike> stretch the irc window to maximum size
[21:51] <steffan> giannis: anything aimed at you directly should be addressed too your nickname
[21:51] <antonpiatek> Can I get the current wifi AP name somehow on the command line? iwlist doesnt show any (even though nm has me connected)
[21:51] <onix> iceroot: thank you, software is installed but firefox don't detect it, I try to restart
[21:51] <steffan> giannis: which should hilight if you are using a half-decent client
[21:51] <ralphte> better yet is there a need to do anything unique during install with a ATI grpics card?
[21:52] <sebsebseb> ralphte: ATI uhmm
[21:52] <sebsebseb> ralphte: ATI have actsaulyl released a new driver recently
[21:52] <antonpiatek> doh -iwgetid
[21:52] <iceroot> Oer: for firefox you need "sun-java6-plugin"
[21:52] <ralphte> ya just haiving a prop with install not showing video
[21:52] <iceroot> Oer: sorry wrong nick
[21:52] <giannis> so i try to activate my wirelees and there seems not to working it shows the message that the device it is deactivated
[21:53] <wally__> does ati have more support with ubuntu than nvidia?
[21:54] <sebsebseb> ralphte: This is maybe useful for you, and yes its for Ubuntu as well. http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-ATI-Linux-Video-Driver-Has-OpenGL-4-0-and-RHEL-5-5-Support-144827.shtml   Also you could just try installing a driver like before so uhmm
[21:54] <sebsebseb> !ati | ralphte
[21:54] <ralphte> nice ya i just got to get ubunt rinning 1st
[21:54] <ralphte> ubuntu
[21:54] <pfifo> wally__, its rare to meet someone that has both ati and nvidia side by side, so any answer you get to that questoion you should throw some salt on, i myself love nvidia
[21:54] <tulimaq_> giannis: what wifi card do u have ?
[21:55] <giannis> wait i have to check it out
[21:55] <wally__> i do too, i'm just asking if ubuntu offers more support drivers wise for ATI
[21:55] <ralphte> will ubuntu work with ati card and nvidia card at same time like windows?
[21:55] <sebsebseb> ralphte: right well ATI is a common issue in Ubuntu, so I hope this new driver that has been released,  will solve a lot of the problems,  but yeah I guess that won't be in the Ubuntu repos untill 10.10
[21:55] <sebsebseb> wally__: check out the above link I guess
[21:56] <whlspacedude> wally__: I love ATI cards, however Ive found better support for Nvidia. But that doesnt stop me from using ATI
[21:56] <iceroot> ralphte: normally, yes
[21:56] <ralphte> ok too easy if it possable then i will get it working
[21:56] <giannis> broadcom b43
[21:56] <iceroot> !broadcom | giannis
[21:57] <guntbert> antonpiatek: iwlist scan gives a bit more info :-)
[21:58] <Dougdoug4> Okay
[21:58] <tulimaq_> giannis: did u use ndiswrapper or native driver ?
[21:58] <Dougdoug4> I need SERIOUS help!
[21:58] <pfifo> !ask
[21:59] <Dougdoug4> I cannot get past Step 2 of the Ubuntu 10.04 installation. It just gets stuck loading for infinity. My disk isn't defected! plesae help!@
[21:59] <goldins> Dougdoug4: try the alternatives cd
[22:00] <Dougdoug4> what is that?
[22:00] <shadeslayer> !alternative | Dougdoug4
[22:00] <goldins> it's an installer disk you can download that has some neat things but at the end of the day installs ubuntu
[22:00] <rww> !alternate
[22:00] <shadeslayer> rww: slow :)
[22:01] <antonpiatek> thanks guntbert iwgetid is what I want :)
[22:01] <harman> Hi guys
[22:01] <harman> How should i disable AMD Cool n Quiet functionality ( Processor Frequency Scaling ) in Linux ( not in BIOS )
[22:01] <guntbert> antonpiatek: :-)
[22:01] <shadeslayer> Dougdoug4: btw before trying the alternate CD,check that if you can mount the partitions with nautilus
[22:02] <shadeslayer> harman: you cant afaik
[22:02] <shadeslayer> harman: CPU scaling is a BIOS operation
[22:02] <shadeslayer> i might be wrong tho...
[22:03] <shadeslayer> Dougdoug4: if you cant,then try the alternate CD,if you can,then unmount all mounted partitions and try the install again
[22:03] <shadeslayer> Dougdoug4: btw how big is this HD?
[22:04] <harman> in Windows , we could configure , so that Processor would scale at 100%
[22:04] <tulimaq_> harman:try CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor (gnome applet) it may help u out
[22:04] <harman> there shud be something in Linux too
[22:04] <shadeslayer> harman: ah that way... try the applet tulimaq_ said
[22:05] <shadeslayer> i wouldnt keep my proccy at 100 pc tho :P
[22:05] <shadeslayer> harman: btw Ubuntu!=Windows
[22:05] <harman> better though
[22:06] <shadeslayer> thats debatable ....
[22:06] <harman> the reason is for doing this is that i had underclocked mine CPU to 1.15 V | whereas CPU ACPI Power States use much higher Volts
[22:06] <shadeslayer> oh my...
[22:06] <icelandjack> hi
[22:06] <paul__> hi, nice too much of chat going on...
[22:08] <steffan> paul__: this isn't a social channel that's why. check out #ubuntu-offtopic or similar
[22:08] <Dougdoug4> I cannot get past Step 2 of the Ubuntu 10.04 installation. It just gets stuck loading for infinity. My disk isn't defected! plesae help!@
[22:08] <sobersabre> hi.
[22:08] <marekw2143> hi, i got this error: "automatic file system check of the root fs failed, how to perform manually fsck?
[22:09] <paul__> steffan, yeh! you got me hee.heee ; just waiting for sometime reading and will be gone. thanks
[22:09] <Oer> Dougdoug4, i suppose you have a huge hdd, it can take minutes to check, that's normal.
[22:09] <malcom> AdminX, Hi
[22:10] <steffan> !fsck | marekw2143
[22:10] <pfifo> marekw2143, run 'e2fsck -fy /dev/sdXY' where X and Y are changed to your partition
[22:11] <marekw2143> ubottu, pfifo: thx, ill try
[22:13] <marekw2143> but why the fsck must be run manually, and system just not ask for perform some risky operations (if some are) when it prints such message?
[22:15] <pfifo> Error: I am only a human, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[22:16] <RORgasm> any cron masters here
[22:16] <pfifo> marekw2143, its at a point where it needs a yes or no answer from you. Mostlikely regarding deleting something that you might think is important
[22:16] <RORgasm> can anyone tell me when this would run "0 15 10 ? * 6#3"
[22:17] <marekw2143> pfifo: I get following info when starting: /dev/sda1: there are 3 indoes containing multiply-claimed blocks
[22:18] <edbian> RORgasm, You're missing some info.  You need to start the ones you're not using.  That so far says at 0 minutes and 15 hours after midnight on the 10th of the month on no months and no weeks
[22:18] <pfifo> marekw2143,  i normally hold down the enter key and answer yes to everything, ive never run into any problems with e2fsck deleting sometinhg importnat
[22:18] <edbian> RORgasm, /s/start/star
[22:18] <RORgasm> edbian: i think that's supposed to say @ 10:15 AM on every 3rd friday of the month
[22:19] <marekw2143> ok, but now I have another problem: when after prompt "Give root password for maintenance: " II enter my root password, i tells me it's incorrect
[22:19] <RORgasm> http://docs.netkernel.org/book/view/book:mod:cron/doc:mod:cron:cronexpression
[22:19] <RORgasm> last example in that link
[22:19] <RORgasm> i'm just not sure
[22:19] <antonpiatek> I'm trying to use "find . -exec cp {} backup/{} \;" to copy files into a backup dir, but can't figure out how to drop the leading ./ from the second {} expansion - anyone know how to do this?
[22:19] <pfifo> marekw2143, reboot to a livecd and run e2fsck
[22:20] <pfifo> marekw2143, or the recovery option in the grub menu
[22:20] <oblivion>  furnet.org
[22:21] <edbian> RORgasm, I don't know how to say "every third friday"  All I can do is every friday or once a month (probably not on a friday)
[22:21] <guntbert> marekw2143: if you are on ubuntu there is no root password, where do you get that prompt?
[22:21] <mikkor> hi, if i try to start ubuntu 10.04 livecd it stops in a "ata1: SRST failed (error=16)" loop, what can i do?
[22:21] <edbian> RORgasm, Once a month would be: 15 10 1 * *     (that would be the first of the month)
[22:21] <marekw2143> pfifo: do you remember how to enter recovery mode from grub?
[22:21] <edbian> RORgasm, Every Friday would be:  15 10 1 * f
[22:22] <ubuntu_> do you know somthiing about tv cars
[22:22] <guntbert> !ot | ubuntu_
[22:22] <edbian> RORgasm, Correction: 15 10 1 * f   would be the first if it's a friday.  If not nothing would happen until next month if the 1st was a friday
[22:22] <edbian> RORgasm, 15 10 * * f    would be very friday
[22:22] <pfifo> marekw2143, umm, yeah just press down until that entry is highlighted and then press enter. perhaps you need to press escape to enter the grub menu to begin with?
[22:22] <RORgasm> edbian: wouldn't every friday at 10:15 be this "10 15 1 * f" ?
[22:23] <RORgasm> sorry i meant
[22:23] <RORgasm> edbian: wouldn't every friday at 10:15 be this "10 15 * * f" ?
[22:23] <edbian> RORgasm, Yes, see what I said?
[22:23] <marekw2143> pfifo: aaa, you meant ubuntu recovery mode :)
[22:23] <edbian> RORgasm, 10 15 1 * f   is "the first if the first is a friday"
[22:23] <guntbert> pfifo: marekw2143 with grub2 you press <shift> to get the menu
[22:23] <Operator23> Hey, I'm trying to setup phpmyadmin, but for some reason apache isn't executing php
[22:23] <pfifo> marekw2143, yes, i dont remember the exact wording
[22:23] <Operator23> It's just serving it as a text file
[22:23] <RORgasm> edbian: you said this "15 10 * * f " what i'm saying is this "10 15 * * f
[22:24] <Operator23> Anyone ever seen that?
[22:24] <pfifo> can I get cron to run something every time there is a full moon?
[22:24] <guntbert> Operator23: ask in #ubuntu-server or in #httpd please
[22:24] <Operator23> guntbert: Duly noted.
[22:24] <edbian> RORgasm, Oops, yeah, you're right.  The file goes minutes, hours, day of month, mon of year, day of week
[22:25] <edbian> pfifo, Serious question?
[22:25] <pfifo> edbian, no
[22:25] <edbian> pfifo, :) :P
[22:25] <Shazbot^_-> Has anyone had issues with "Fn" brightness control?
[22:25] <Shazbot^_-> (with Lucid)
[22:26] <qopi> anyone got any ideas whey dmesg shows nothing when I plug my drive enclosure into my firewire port?
[22:26] <qopi> drivers all seem to be there
[22:26] <qopi> but nothing, zilch, nada
[22:27] <erichynds> i can't start mysql via "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" or "sudo start mysql" - it just hangs.  the only way it seems to work is by logging into root and running "mysqld" - how can i fix this?
[22:27] <T-rock007> has anybody fixed istanbul
[22:28] <T-rock007> yet
[22:28] <marekw2143> hmm, I can't login throught recovery mode as root. after entering correct password, it tells me "login incorrect"
[22:28] <pfifo> erichynds, perhaps add mysqld to the bootup sequence
[22:28] <verb3k> T-rock007, for screencasting?
[22:28] <unperson> Upon upgrading to lucid, I found that the Lightning add-on for Thunderbird (calendaring) so longer works.  I gather that there is no version of Lightning in the repos compatible with TB 3.  Is there a version out there somewhere that people have gotten to install successfully?
[22:28] <T-rock007> yeah
[22:28] <pfifo> marekw2143, use a livecd, thats what i always do
[22:28] <guntbert> qopi: that has nothing with drivers, you see any recognized hardware in the syslog/dmesg, so your system doesn't recognize the HD at all, drivers come only later
[22:28] <verb3k> T-rock007, istanbul sucks, use FFmpeg: http://verb3k.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/how-to-do-proper-screencasts-on-linux/
[22:28] <tulimaq_> marekw2143: just press enter, with no password
[22:29] <marekw2143> pfifo: yeah, I'll probably do
[22:29] <T-rock007> every time i do its very laggy
[22:29] <marekw2143> tulimaq_: doesn't work
[22:29] <fgd> do you know somthiing about tv cars
[22:29] <malcom> AdminX, Hey
[22:29] <guntbert> marekw2143: did you set a root password? why
[22:29] <qopi> guntbert: er, ok, thanks, I guess :P any ideas what I should try? works fine with usb but nothing happens with firewire, no idea why
[22:30] <erichynds> pfifo, how do i do that?
[22:30] <marekw2143> guntbert: I don't remember, but when system worked, when I ran some soft as root, i entered my password and everything was ok
[22:30] <pfifo> marekw2143, i normally edit /etc/fstab and change all my entries to end with a 0 instead of a 1 or 2, this stops automatic disk checking all together, then if i get weird errors when dealing with files, i boot a livecd and e2fsck manually
[22:30] <T-rock007> verb3k: every time i use ffmpeg it only gets chunks of my screencast
[22:30] <guntbert> qopi: well on my desktop PC it was easy: the firewire cable was not connected to the main board (because that has no firewire plug at all) :-)
[22:30] <edbian> marekw2143, pfifo You like to live on the edge!
[22:31] <verb3k> T-rock007, what do you mean chunks?
[22:31] <guntbert> !noroot | marekw2143
[22:31] <marekw2143> !root
[22:32] <qopi> guntbert: hehe, I'm guess/ hoping that isn't the case in my Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop...
[22:32] <T-rock007> like when im done recording and i view my video it looks like snap shots not a video it doesn't flow together
[22:32] <pfifo> erichynds, i have no clue, my bootup sequence is custom, im sure someone here knows howto start services the proper way though
[22:32] <marekw2143> !wfm
[22:33] <verb3k> T-rock007, probably you've not set a proper frame rate with -r
[22:33] <untermensch> can anyone help me with the silc plugin for irssi?
[22:33] <T-rock007> what is the proper frame rate
[22:34] <marekw2143> guntbert: so root password can't be set?
[22:34] <pfifo> marekw2143, of course it can, but its not supported
[22:34] <verb3k> T-rock007, depends on what you want, some people want low and other want high. 30 is a good general frame rate.
[22:34] <T-rock007> ok ill try it
[22:35] <guntbert> marekw2143: it *can* be set, but there is no reason to do it
[22:35] <marekw2143> guntbert: security?
[22:35] <T-rock007> marekw2143: you can set the root password with the command sudo passwd root
[22:35] <tulimaq_> marekw2143: u can but its recomended to use sudo instead
[22:36] <marekw2143> guntbert: to prevent users that can reboot computer to enter recovery mode for example
[22:36] <marekw2143> but now, when I don't remember my root password, will it work fine after doing fsck from live cd, or root pswd is needed for that?
[22:36] <guntbert> marekw2143: no, they always can use a CD to boot from
[22:37] <pfifo> marekw2143, im sure you wont find it in the docs anywhere, but im 90% sure the reason they have no root in ubuntu is because we would have lots of people accidentally breaking their system by running as root 24/7
[22:37] <guntbert> marekw2143: from live CD you also can remove the root password again
[22:37] <marekw2143> guntbert: uff :)
[22:38] <livingdaylight> hi
[22:38] <marekw2143> and when I use ubuntu 8.10, does it matter whether live cd will be ubuntu 8.10 or sth else?
[22:38] <livingdaylight> i downloaded zattoo tv using  wget http://zattoo.com/release/download.php command but can't find it on my computer - help?
[22:39] <guntbert> marekw2143: will not matter, maybe better not *much* older
[22:39] <tulimaq_> marekw2143: any linux live cd will do
[22:39] <pfifo> marekw2143, if your refering to running a filesystem check you can use any livecd including one released by another distro maintainer
[22:39] <DUEDAHL> is it possible to control the bandwith on my ubuntu-gateway's NICs? so fx. dmz gets 10mbps/10mbps and LAN gets 40mbps/40mbps?
[22:39] <pfifo> DUEDAHL, yes
[22:40] <DUEDAHL> pfifo how? :)
[22:40] <Bashew> Hi, I have a problem. I have two video cards in my machine, an ATI one for a primary and a nVidia card. Is it possible to use both?
[22:40] <Bashew> I just finished repairing a monitor my brother chucked a hammer at, so i'm so very close to having a tri-monitor setup, lol
[22:40] <pfifo> DUEDAHL, i cant give exacts but youll need to look into these 2 man pages 'iptables' and 'tc'
[22:40] <Methice> Hi all, I'm french, Sorry my english, i search tutorial to use my
[22:40] <Methice> celular phone htc touch diamond as a rndis modem on ubuntu 10.04LTS
[22:40] <Methice> previously thank for answers
[22:41] <DUEDAHL> pfifo ok, thanks
[22:41] <_pg_> does anyone know of a good guide to dualboot (l)ubuntu and windows xp mini on a single flash drive?
[22:41] <pfifo> _pg_, windows dosent support booting from flash drives
[22:41] <guntbert> untermensch: you could ask in #irssi
[22:42] <untermensch> guntbert: o yeah, good call. thanks
[22:42] <edbian> _pg_, You can put a virtual machine on the Ubuntu OS on the USB drive and install windows XP to that.  It will take a ton of space (for a flash drive) the performance will probably not be great.
[22:42] <_pg_> pfifo: surely it has been done though! mini xp runs from a cd, it cant be much different
[22:42] <_pg_> edbian: not a bad idea. might be awful slow though, depending on computer...
[22:43] <Methice> nobody knows ?
[22:43] <edbian> _pg_, Probably :)
[22:43] <pfifo> _pg_, ive tried todo exactly what you said with my external usb harddrive, it didnt work. Ive heard rumors that you can hack XP to do it but couldnt get it working so I assume the rumors were false.
[22:44] <Vexc> Hi there, I got this problem with the Chrome browser. On Youtube when I go into fullscreen the video won't change it's resolution. Anyone knows of a fix?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:45] <pfifo> _pg_, something about the way XP loads usb drivers during the boot sequence. anyway were way off topic, if you want to use a flash drive to dual boot anything, simply install grub onto it
[22:45] <_pg_> pfifo: now that sounds like a plan
[22:45] <Methice> ActionParsnip, yo yo yo , =)
[22:46] <zkriesse> Hey ActionParsnip
[22:47] <tulimaq_> _pg_: maybe grub4dos is the thing u are looking for ?
[22:47] <_pg_> tulimaq_: i will look into it. thanks!
[22:47] <malcom> z
[22:48] <apoz> hii all
[22:48] <edbian> apoz, Question?
[22:48] <clik> hola quien  me ayuda  a intalar el vmware player
[22:48] <clik> hola quien  me ayuda  a intalar el vmware player
[22:48] <zkriesse> Hello apoz
[22:48] <zkriesse> !espanol | clik
[22:49] <apoz> yes crazy with a geforce2 mx400 up and down
[22:49] <clik> oh
[22:49] <fgfhfhfffgfgf> Hola yo hablo español
[22:49] <apoz> no up and dwn the lan forcedeth
[22:50] <steev> hey all, i'm trying to copy a cd to an image file (data cd, i'd like to make a backup copy) and it says I need to install toc2cue and cdrdao manually, I already did apt-get install cdrdao (which provides both of those, and running the command at the command line works, what am I missing?
[22:50] <Methice> is anybody know how make htc p3700 phone use as modem
[22:50] <fgfhfhfffgfgf> hay problemas con el español ? / spanish problem ?
[22:50] <Methice> ?
[22:51] <zkriesse> !fr| Methice
[22:51] <iszak> Is there anything like CoLinux for Windows on Ubuntu?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> steev: why not just use dd?
[22:51] <guntbert> !es | fgfhfhfffgfgf
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> steev: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/image.iso
[22:51] <pfifo> steev, i think your overworking your problem, to make an image i usually run this command 'dd if=/dev/sr0 of=image.iso' unless your trying to circumvent copyright protection dd is all you need
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: exactly
[22:51]  * pfifo high fives ActionParsnip
[22:51] <theowl> Buenas necesito ayuda en español
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: people seem to think making an image is hard and needs some special voodoo
[22:52] <tkeezy> hi, looking for help on getting wireless usb mouse to work in ubuntu 10.04
[22:52] <steev> ...
[22:52] <guntbert> !es | theowl
[22:52] <steev> i'm sorry, i didn't realize using brasero was considered attempting to circumvent copyright protection, or "making things hard"
[22:53] <steev> good to know what people think of attempting to use the default software installed on an ubuntu system though
[22:53] <theowl> Thanks guntbert ubottu
[22:53] <pfifo> steev, no, im not saying your trying to circumvent anything, im saying your doing things the hard way.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> steev: if you own the dvd (well, in the uk anyway) you can make copies for your own use, although it looks a big dodey if you have more than say 2
[22:54] <steev> not dvd, its a cdrom
[22:54] <Joshua_Roberts> is there something that I need to install to make flash work properly in ubuntu 9.10?
[22:55] <edbian> steev, The same is true of copyright law in America.  For you own use = legal.  For sharing with others = illegal
[22:55] <pfifo> Joshua_Roberts, restart firefox
[22:55] <steev> either way, this is what I am getting when I attempt to make the copy with brasero - http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/brasero.png
[22:55] <hiexpo> steev,  - i got banned from ubuntu forums for posting a fix for  youtube-dl that is in the repos of ubuntu / for illegal content
[22:55] <My-Computer> im on lucid when i had jaunty i was able to choose from a list of login windows what do i have to download to get that option back if anything
[22:55] <edbian> steev, But the same is true.  It becomes difficult to provide a good reason to the RIAA why you need 2,500 copies of Miley Cyrus  ;)
[22:56] <Flannel> iszak: I'm not too familiar with coLinux, but you can run windows apps seamlessly "inside" Linux with virtualization, for example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[22:56] <thune3> My-Computer: system->admin->login-screen  deselect automatic login ? maybe?
[22:57] <guntbert> steev: and you said starting brasero from command line works fine?
[22:57] <tkeezy> does anyone have time to help me get no-name brand wireless mouse working with ubuntu 10.04?
[22:57] <Joshua_Roberts> still not working properly.  The page I am on, speedtest.net, is supposed to have some gauges like on a car that move and show you the download rate, but they are empty.  There is no animation in the gauges.
[22:57] <tkeezy> actual brand name is "engage"
[22:57] <steev> guntbert: no, running the dd command works fine
[22:57] <hiexpo> guntbert,  - :)
[22:58] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello, I am having a problem with Ubuntu 10.04 server. When I transfer a file >60 GB over the network to the server hard locks after about 60GB is transferred. This happens over ssh, and samba. The destination directory is an ext4 2tb hardware raid10 array. When I create a large file locally on the machine it does not crash. Memtest reports no errors after 3 passes. Does anyone have any...
[22:58] <Rigorm0rtis> ...ideas? I have a few logs. I was able to set up a netconsole, and saw the output of a kernel oops (http://paste.ubuntu.com/451797/) on my logging machine. I also grabbed all of the other logs off of the machine after rebooting it.
[22:58] <guntbert> hiexpo: I beg your pardon?
[22:58] <pfifo> Joshua_Roberts, what release are you on?
[22:59] <Flannel> tkeezy: Bluetooth? or a USB dongle thing?
[22:59] <Joshua_Roberts> 9.10
[22:59] <iszak> Flannel, anything more effortless and for lucid?
[22:59] <Joshua_Roberts> pfifo: I am using 9.10
[22:59] <pfifo> Joshua_Roberts, 32 or 64 bit?
[22:59] <Joshua_Roberts> pfifo 64 bit
[22:59] <FallenAngel1> i can't install conky on ubuntu 10.04
[23:00] <tkeezy> flannel: usb dongle thing
[23:00] <FallenAngel1> could anyone help me?
[23:00] <hiexpo> guntbert,  - was saying hello
[23:00] <pfifo> Joshua_Roberts, theres your problem, adobe dosent like 64 bit linux, i used an install script that did some voodoo to get it to work, let me see if i can find the link to it
[23:00] <guntbert> hiexpo: hi :-)
[23:00] <dollarbill1979> can someone answer a quick question
[23:00]  * Adamus1red finds the closest large object and gives FloodBot1 a slap with it
[23:01] <edbian> dollarbill1979, That's what we're here for!
[23:01] <FallenAngel1> i am downloading from here...i extract and i can't open the file that is containing---->  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ConkyWizard?content=126352
[23:01]  * Adamus1red pops down the farm, grabs a Shetland Pony and slaps dollarbill1979 with it!
[23:01] <Flannel> iszak: there's a few ways of doing it, yeah.  I'm not sure about lucid-specific, but I don't think it should matter.  Google could probably come up with some reasonably simple ones too.
[23:01] <Nitsuga> !ask dollarbill1979
[23:01] <Flannel> Adamus1red: Please stop that
[23:02] <dollarbill1979> i got over my head with mandriva it has almost bricked one laptop and im trying to get it of another. for some reason i cannot get unetbootin to work properly so i have d/l wine and am running wubi from that...what will be the result?
[23:02] <dollarbill1979> of=off
[23:02] <Flannel> tkeezy: Plug it in, see what it's usb ID thing is.  It'll likely be the same as some other one that isn't no-name (the guts are a regular brand, etc)
[23:02] <Sinister> i want to be able to get into my diretories from my cellphone what can i use do i have to use apache ?
[23:03] <Flannel> Sinister: ssh is more common
[23:03] <edbian> dollarbill1979, Oh boy are you confused ;)  Wubi installers Ubuntu inside windows.  I doubt it will work running in WINE mostly because you don't have an NTFS partition mounted as root right now.
[23:03] <tkeezy> flannel: it's cypress semiconductor corp
[23:03] <Sinister> and i can just use my blackberry to access it ?
[23:04] <Flannel> tkeezy: Just the hex string (xxxx:yyyy) should be google-able
[23:04] <BarnacleBob> has anyone got a package for xen working on 10.04?
[23:04] <godDamnIt> hell yeah balls to the wall <---- I installed windows 7 (dont ask me why...). So now i cant boot with Ubuntu (ubuntu was installed first)... some help plz XD
[23:04] <pfifo> Joshua_Roberts, i used this shell script http://conradmiguel.com/install-flash-player-10-on-ubuntu-10-04-64-bit-lucid-lynx
[23:04] <stip> jo can anyone help me with my damn nooby grub problem?
[23:05] <Joshua_Roberts> ok, so can I adjust it for for Karmic?
[23:05] <dollarbill1979> @edbian well ive got ubuntu on a usb using unetbootin but when i go to run it either i get a boot error or the bios does not start the usb and mandriva starts
[23:05] <edbian> dollarbill1979, Why not use a CD ??
[23:05] <dollarbill1979> its a netbook
[23:05]  * sigmonsays gives godDamnIt a dose of cyanide
[23:05] <pfifo> Joshua_Roberts, my guess is that it will work in 9.10 just fine since neither firefox of flash have changed in any significant manner
[23:06] <shadeslayer> btw anyone whois looking for a way to install the new ATi drivers should wait just a tiny bit more,packages are almost ready
[23:06] <Flannel> !grub | john002
[23:06] <Flannel> john002: First link there can help you
[23:06] <edbian> dollarbill1979, Use the hard drive option of unetbootin.  It will handle all the magic and allow you to boot an ISO image on your  HDD without burning / booting from the CD.
[23:06] <edbian> dollarbill1979, There are a lot of ways to install Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[23:06] <stip> ....
[23:06] <JoeTheGuest> I got a question if someone knows something about bios
[23:07] <dollarbill1979> but if unetbootin is not working properly i dont want to take the chance of it bricking my hd
[23:07] <Flannel> stip: The best way to get someone to answer your question is to just ask it.  If someone knows the answer or can help, they will.
[23:08] <stip> after i installed the new ubuntu 10.04 my grub wont get me on windows 7
[23:08] <edbian> dollarbill1979, Look at some of the other methods.  Worst case scenario: get an external CD drive.
[23:08] <JoeTheGuest> Ooboontu
[23:08] <stip> does anyone know the problem for this
[23:08] <dollarbill1979> thanks bbl hopefully....
[23:08] <Walex> stip: you are lucky -- mine won't boot into Ubuntu, only into the initrd.
[23:08] <edbian> dollarbill1979, Althought I highly doubt that unetbootin isn't working.  I've done exactly what you're doing with it before.
[23:09] <JoeTheGuest> You need to add it back in stip
[23:09] <giannis> I tried to solve my problem but i can t find the way with my wireless
[23:10] <JoeTheGuest> Mac FTW!
[23:10] <JoeTheGuest> Lol
[23:10] <DopeGhoti> I recently failed to set up a dual-boot system: after installing Ubuntu, the system would still only boot to windows (7, in my case).  Having just reinstalled Windows, what do I need to do for a well-mannered Linux/7 dual-boot?
[23:10] <jmad980> DopeGhoti: if your lucky just reinstall your bootloader
[23:10] <jmad980> grub
[23:11] <stip> oh man. what i gonna have to do?
[23:11] <stip> i think its so easy but i dont know
[23:11] <pfifo> stip, its easy
[23:11] <stip> ok^^
[23:11] <giannis> problem with wireless
[23:11] <edbian> DopeGhoti, You clean installed windows 7?  Used the entire disc?  Then linux is gone, you need to install Ubuntu again (in case that wasn't obvious) then work with it if the problem persists.
[23:11] <jmad980> ;P
[23:11] <edbian> DopeGhoti, What do you mean you could only boot windows before.  Where you given any other options?
[23:12] <stip> pfifo: do i have to change the grub.cfg??
[23:12] <pfifo> stip yes
[23:12] <Joshua_Roberts> pfifo: thanks  did the trick
[23:12] <pfifo> Joshua_Roberts, yw, enjoy, and save that script
[23:12] <stip> pfifo: but what do i have to change
[23:13] <giannis> i don't know what to do
[23:13] <ActionParsnip1> giannis: run: sudo lshw -C network    websearch for the product line output to find guides
[23:13] <DopeGhoti> edbian: Yes, I blew out the drive, but that's okay because I was never able to boot into Linux in the first place.  No loss.  And correct, I was given no other options at boot-time, and never saw GRUB. It's almost as though the installer didn't bother installing GRUB for some reason
[23:13] <pfifo> stip, im getting a IO error on my machine right now, and need to reboot, you have to tack on some extra lines to the end of the file, but cant tell you exactly what to add
[23:14] <edbian> DopeGhoti, I think you're right.  Yeah, install Ubuntu, make sure it finishes and then reboot.  If the problem persists you can use a live CD and install grub manually
[23:14] <giannis> can anyone know a greek place to connect?
[23:14] <tar-> giannis: greek.com
[23:14] <ff88> hi is there any way I can transparently compress a directory in ext4 filesystem?
[23:14] <ff88> I mean like NTFS compressed directory
[23:15] <DopeGhoti> edbian: that's what I thought.  Now, I do know that 7 puts on a small 100MB 'System' partition in front of the actual system partition- I guess what I'm asking is, is the installer aware of how to coexist with 7?
[23:15] <hiexpo> giannis,  as in greek help ?
[23:15] <DopeGhoti> (my previous dual-boot was XP, and boot.ini-based Windows editions played well with GRUB)
[23:16] <muelli> ff88: there's most likely a FUSE you can use. And I'm pretty confident that there is something for a loopback device.
[23:16] <ff88> uhm...
[23:16] <edbian> DopeGhoti, The installer is very aware.  It's downright great at it.  It will suggest to be installed "side-by-side" and when grub is installed it will probe the HDD and create entires for all other OS's on the system (both win 7 and the recovery part).
[23:16] <danielig> I need some help with sound config, I followed the http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Soundkarten_installieren/HDA for Siemens Amilo Pro, still no sound.
[23:17] <FallenAngel1> how can i install the conky?
[23:17] <FallenAngel1> does anyone knows?
[23:17] <edbian> DopeGhoti, If for some reason anything goes wrong during the install you can fix it using a live CD / the Ubuntu installation you have now.  It will not mess windows up.  At least, I never have seen nor heard of it messing up windows.
[23:17] <muelli> but yeah. I don't know whether one can actually mark smth as "compressed" in the filesystem and so that the driver itself takes care about that..
[23:17] <edbian> FallenAngel1, sudo apt-get install conky
[23:18] <DopeGhoti> edbian: Indeed, I just had to reinstall Windows anyway (thanks, rootkits), and thought I'd ask for someone's 2¢ before attempting the Linux install again.  I suspected what I saw last time was an anomaly :)
[23:18] <wheredowegofromh> hello, i have a problem with the new realese of ubuntu, they do not detect usb devices unless they are plugged from the boot
[23:18] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  done but where is it now?
[23:18] <stip> sooo does anyone knows the exact thing i have to write in the grub.cfg, so i can us windows 7 in grub as i did before the update???
[23:18] <wheredowegofromh> can anyone help me?
[23:18] <pfifo> stip, this is what i use http://pastebin.com/wbXW6kTU you may need to edit it to point at the right partition
[23:18] <edbian> DopeGhoti, You can tell the installer not to install grub.  I don't think you did but I know the option is there.
[23:19] <edbian> FallenAngel1, in a term: "conky"
[23:19] <FallenAngel1> what do you mean edbian?
[23:19] <pr0xy> soreau: you were right; uninstalling and reinstalling fixed the desktop effects issue. Thanks!
[23:19] <soreau> pr0b0t__: Awesome!
[23:19] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Do you know what a terminal is?
[23:19] <stip> pfifo: i look at it i hope it helps. thank you. when it doesnt help me i come back^^ bb
[23:19] <FallenAngel1> yes edbian
[23:19] <DopeGhoti> edbian: I don't think I did, either, but who knows; I may have inadvertantly done so; most of my installed have been from the Server CD, not the GUI/LiveCD.
[23:19] <FallenAngel1> of course
[23:19] <pfifo> stip, ok
[23:19] <soreau> pr0xy: Cool, glad I could help :)
[23:20] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Open it up, type "conky" without quotes.  Press enter :)
[23:20] <wheredowegofromh> hello
[23:20] <edbian> DopeGhoti, Well that might have been the prob but I doubt it.  The server CD def can install the bootloader.  Perhaps it was just a fluke
[23:21] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  its's very ugly...could i change a bit?
[23:21] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Oh hell yes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6365702
[23:21] <DopeGhoti> edbian: I know all CDs can (and should) install the bootloader; this was just my first run-through the GUI installer since either Hardy or Intrepid :)
[23:21] <edbian> DopeGhoti, Welcome back to Ubuntu!
[23:22] <DopeGhoti> edbian: Oh, I've been here a while now, and am looking forward to once again having a real OS on my desktop instead of just my server :)
[23:22] <edbian> FallenAngel1, You can go CRAZY customizing conky
[23:22] <edbian> DopeGhoti, Ha ha! Glad to here it :)
[23:23] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  could i install this? ----> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ConkyWizard?content=126352
[23:23] <Ginbun3> what is the command to launch the msn client on Ubuntu?
[23:23] <DopeGhoti> Ginbun3: 'empathy' IIRC
[23:23] <pfifo> Ginbun2_, i use 'pidgin'
[23:24] <pfifo> Ginbun2_, sorry wrong nick
[23:24] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  did you see it?
[23:24] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Reading...
[23:24] <FallenAngel1> ok edbian
[23:25] <CS_Swan> helllo
[23:25] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Like the first comment says the download link doesn't work?
[23:25] <FallenAngel1> hello CS_Swan
[23:26] <FallenAngel1> yes edbian i read it
[23:26] <FallenAngel1> but i doenloaded edbian
[23:26] <edbian> FallenAngel1, O, well what the heck is it?  Just a text file or a package or what?
[23:26] <rikkimaru> I had to force close minicom. now when i try to restart minicom i get "Device /dev/ttyS0 is locked." Does anyone know how to unlock a serial port?
[23:27] <slow-motion> n8
[23:27] <FallenAngel1> it's a tar and you have to extract it and then to double click to the file edbian
[23:27] <hiexpo> edbian,  - it's a theme is all for conky
[23:27] <CS_Swan> is it possible to download packages that did not come with ubuntu into windows and then copy to ubuntu?
[23:27] <CS_Swan> my ubuntu desktop has access only to dial up, my laptop run's vista
[23:27] <pfifo> rikkimaru, reboot would be one way
[23:27] <edbian> hiexpo, Never installed a theme for conky, the download didn't work for me.  I'm flying blind here.  Can you help him??
[23:27] <acerimmer_> CS_Swan: what?
[23:28] <rikkimaru> pfifo, i'm in the middle of a long build, any other ways you know of :(
[23:28] <pfifo> rikkimaru, lockfiles are located in /var/lock
[23:28] <acerimmer_> CS_Swan: try offline update . wait one for th link
[23:28] <hiexpo> edbian,  i never have used conky so i am blind also
[23:28] <BarnacleBob> CS_Swan, sure.  download the .debs from packages.ubuntu.com to a cd.  on the system do dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb
[23:28] <rikkimaru> pfifo, there are no files in there that i can tell, just smoe empty directories
[23:28] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  if you go to downloads tab you will download it
[23:28] <FallenAngel1> ;)
[23:28] <acerimmer_> CS_Swan: http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html
[23:28] <pfifo> rikkimaru, sorry, im out of ideas
[23:29] <pfifo> wb stip
[23:30] <FireCrotch> CS_Swan: I recommend the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Synaptic/PackageDownloadScript
[23:30] <stip> pfifo: jo im back
[23:30] <pfifo> i had a feeling you might be back
[23:31] <acerimmer_> CS_Swan: I use this script with my ubuntu USB stick to manage my offlined destkop
[23:31] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  did you find it?
[23:31] <stip> pfifo: it doesnt go on. when i go on enter it will start something with black background but after 1 sec im back on the grub side
[23:31] <hiexpo> why use a system monitor?
[23:31] <stip> pfifo: *-side page
[23:32] <zulgaban> i made a mistake editing /etc/fstab now my box would not boot. how to emergency boot my box, edit /etc/fstab & reboot back to normal?
[23:32] <edbian> FallenAngel1, The download link sends me here: http://code.google.com/p/conkywizard/
[23:32] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  yes....look at the tabs and the second tab says "downloads"
[23:32] <pfifo> stip, yeah, if you copied that verbatim, it probbally didnt work, cause thats what I use on my computer. What partition is windows installed on?
[23:33] <edbian> FallenAngel1, no hablo espanol
[23:33] <CS_Swan> awesome guys thank you
[23:33] <user987654> hello world
[23:33] <user987654> nice to meet you
[23:33] <pfifo> hello user
[23:33] <edbian> FallenAngel1, got it, hang on
[23:33] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  press the second tab
[23:33] <user987654> ubuntu is crazy
[23:33] <user987654> still using 5.04
[23:33] <FallenAngel1> lol user987654
[23:33] <stip> pfifo: the first thing is that i dont have xp. i have windows 7 and when i go on update-grub it says windows was found on dev/sda3
[23:34] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  you could use chrome or chromium to translate tha pages;)
[23:34] <stip> pfifo: it was all the same with mine before but i added one line
[23:35] <edbian> FallenAngel1, I got it :).  Well it's just a single executable file so lets execute it I guess.
[23:35] <user987654> its been a while since i used an IRC, whats the command for seraching channels?
[23:35] <pfifo> stip, XP, vista and 7 all boot the same way so no problem there. Delete that stuff you put in grub.cfg and replace it with this http://pastebin.com/Gb1w8sUn
[23:35] <FallenAngel1> ok edbian
[23:36] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Before we do this I want you to know.  This is unsecure and risky behavior.  This is a compiled file.  We do not know what it does because we cannot see the code.  It could be a virus, it could be spyware, it could be anything.  We are going to run it anyway because you asked me to.  Do you understand?
[23:36] <stip> pfifo: ok i try
[23:36] <raevol> hey all, my xscreensaver is crashing sometimes when it should be displaying the unlock dialog
[23:36] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  we use linux;)
[23:36] <soreau> what is the deal with the little 'battery=man with circle around him' symbol when trying to boot a live cd? (and doesn't get any further past this point)
[23:36] <raevol> i've got some logs from it, anyone want to take a look?
[23:36] <FallenAngel1> there are no viruses edbian
[23:37] <stip> pfifo: ill send you what i had: menuentry "Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda3)" {
[23:37] <stip> 	insmod ntfs
[23:37] <stip> 	set root='(hd0,3)'
[23:37] <stip> 	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set c24430ac4430a557
[23:37] <stip> 	drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
[23:37] <FloodBot1> stip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <stip> 	chainloader +1
[23:37] <soreau> oops, just failed with error reading boot cd
[23:37] <foxmulder881> soreau: I've never seen it before?!?
[23:37] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Yes, but linux is only secure if you keep with software that is open source because anyone can see it and it is obvious that it is malicious.  This file is not open source.  It can do mean things.  It could be a virus.  It could be bad.  There is a possibility.  Do you still want to continue?
[23:37] <pfifo> nice
[23:38] <jefersonvilasboa> hi!
[23:38] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  dude relax
[23:38] <pfifo> stip, replace and reboot like I said, it sould work this time
[23:38] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Just want to make sure you're aware :).  Let's get started then?  Put the file on your desktop and put you term there.
[23:38] <Lavonne> rm -rfv /*
[23:38] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  i can't open it
[23:38] <pfifo> !danger
[23:39] <monkey_dust> hi all -- in my Passwords & encryption keys, I find a lot of keys belonging to people i never heard of -- how harmful is this? -- hints & tips anyone?
[23:39] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Extract it and move it to the desktop.
[23:39] <FallenAngel1> yes edbian
[23:39] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Did you do that?  Then open a terminal
[23:39] <FallenAngel1> i did this
[23:39] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Now take the terminal to the Desktop: "cd ~/Desktop"
[23:39] <FallenAngel1> it opens with double clicking edbian
[23:39] <muelli> monkey_dust: no harm except that it occupies a few KB on your filesystem
[23:40] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  could you open it with doble clicking?
[23:40] <FallenAngel1> double*
[23:40] <stip> pfifo: i come back so i can tell you if it worked or not
[23:40] <edbian> FallenAngel1, I cannot open it with double clicking. What is it?  A text file?
[23:41] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  look this http://kigka.blogspot.com/2010/06/conky-wizard.html
[23:41] <FallenAngel1> these pics
[23:41] <FallenAngel1> it's a wizard
[23:42] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Then you're good to go?
[23:42] <raevol> the xscreensaver author switched to mac... no wonder it's shit...
[23:42] <FallenAngel1> edbian: ???
[23:42] <IdleOne> !language | raevol
[23:43] <raevol> apologies
[23:43] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Then you don't need any more help?
[23:43] <stip> pfifo: its terrible! its the same as before!!!
[23:43] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  i came here cause i didn;t  know what to do
[23:43] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  nevermind it
[23:44] <FallenAngel1> thnx a lot edbian
[23:44] <FallenAngel1> :)
[23:44] <edbian> FallenAngel1, ??  You got the wizard to run?  just follow it!
[23:44] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Your welcome
[23:44] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  it don't run
[23:44] <edbian> FallenAngel1, You said you double clicked it
[23:44] <FallenAngel1> i said to you edbian
[23:44] <beard> can someone help me? my sound hasn't worked since I started up this afternoon, my external hard drive returns unautherised access errors when I try to mount and the software centre keeps failing when installing or removing software.
[23:44] <pfifo> stip, if it didnt work then it seems that windows7 is on a different partition OR you somehow managed to overwrite windows 7
[23:44] <danielig> how can I unload a module when rmmod tells me that this module is in use?
[23:44] <edbian> FallenAngel1, Do you still have your terminal there?
[23:44] <danielig> I try rmmod snd-hda-intel
[23:44] <FallenAngel1> edbian:  yes
[23:45] <edbian> FallenAngel1, ./Conk<whateverit's called>
[23:45] <Myfathervsyours> hello, plug&play is not working for me in ubuntu 10.04
[23:45] <Myfathervsyours> Can anyone help me?
[23:45] <john002> need help with grub problem, ubuntu installed first
[23:46] <edbian> FallenAngel1, type this ./Conk[tab][tab]    (as in press the tab key)
[23:46] <Myfathervsyours> john002
[23:46] <Myfathervsyours> try, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[23:47] <stip> pfifo: so where can i check the partition for win7? when i go to the partition of win7 from ubuntu i can see all the files that couldnt be the problem.
[23:47] <ralphte> I have installed ubuntu 10.04 with the min install cd but when it loads up my screen goes blank and i see nothing. I am running a ati 5850 graphics card and it was working fine in windows. I am at the root command line right now kinda lost on what it might take to get working
[23:48] <ralphte> tried to install the new ati drivers but it would not install from command line
[23:48] <alket> ralphte, do a standartd install
[23:48] <pfifo> stip, If I was in your position this is what i would do, repartition my hard drive so that there are 2 partitions 16gb each on /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, then i would put the remaining space as /dev/sda3. then I would install windows 7 on /dev/sda1 and once it was working properly i would install linux on /dev/sda2. /dev/sda3 i would format with ext2 filesystem and store all my files there, install ext2 drivers on windows to access it. Ive notic
[23:48] <pfifo> ed that windows can be very picky about where you install it so I ALWAYS install it to /dev/sda1 at the beginning of my hard drive, I also ALWAYS install linux last cause windows installs overwrite the grub bootloader.
[23:48] <beard> screw it I spent the better part of six hours trying to fix these problems, I'm reinstalling. I should never have left windows for this children's project of an OS.
[23:48] <ralphte> had to do a min install cus i did not see anything with the standered install
[23:49] <FallenAngel1> edbian: ----------------->   The 64-bit version is compiled with Qt 4.7 Beta 1 so it can not work.
[23:49] <FallenAngel1> lol edbian?
[23:49] <Aniyah> lol edbian?
[23:49] <pfifo> stip,  your other option is to use the windows 7 restore CD to get windows back and then try to install ubuntu once again
[23:49] <Aniyah> stip,  your other option is to use the windows 7 restore CD to get windows back and then try to install ubuntu once again
[23:50] <pfifo> wtf?
[23:50] <Aniyah> wtf?
[23:50] <FallenAngel1> kick Aniyah from here
[23:50] <Aniyah> kick Aniyah from here
[23:50] <edbian> FallenAngel1, I'm here.  Install QT 4.7 then! :)
[23:50] <Aniyah> FallenAngel1, I'm here.  Install QT 4.7 then! :)
[23:50] <pfifo> hi my names Aniyah and i love to *** on ***
[23:50] <Aniyah> hi my names Aniyah and i love to *** on ***
[23:50] <FloodBot1> Aniyah: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <Aniyah> Aniyah: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <acerimmer_> !ban
[23:51] <LjL> !ops | Aniyah
[23:51] <Aniyah> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable !behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable !behaviour is please see !Etiquette and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines - If you think the
[23:51] <Aniyah> Aniyah: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, Id
[23:51] <gnomefreak> ?
[23:51] <Aniyah> ?
[23:51] <edbian> FallenAngel1, sudo apt-get install qt4
[23:51] <Aniyah> FallenAngel1, sudo apt-get install qt4
[23:51] <xangua> !j #ubuntu-ops
[23:51] <xangua> ups
[23:51] <stip> pfifo: so i have to take the normal windows 7 installation disc for it?
[23:52]  * gnomefreak scrolled too slow
[23:52] <gnomefreak> thanks IdleOne
[23:52] <IdleOne> no problem gnomefreak
[23:52] <pfifo> stip, im sorry i didnt understand what your asking, can you rephrase that please
[23:53] <Myfathervsyours> hello, ubuntu 10.04 does not recognize any usb device unless i connect them before booting it
[23:53] <Myfathervsyours> can anyone help? please
[23:53] <skiwithpete> hi
[23:53] <acerimmer_> !hi|skiwithpete
[23:53] <skiwithpete> anyone know how to enable the multitouch trackpad
[23:54] <pfifo> Myfathervsyours, what dose 'dmesg|tail' say when you plug in a device?
[23:54] <stip> pfifo: so i wanted to ask if the restore cd is the same with the normal installation cd
[23:54] <acerimmer_> !synaptic|skiwithpete
[23:54] <acerimmer_> skiwithpete: oops nevermind
[23:54] <skiwithpete> :)
[23:54] <FallenAngel1> NOTE: The 32-bit version works flawlessly in both 32 and 64-bit computers and is compiled with Qt version that brings "Lucid." The 64-bit version is compiled with Qt 4.7 Beta 1 so it can not work.
[23:54] <stip> pfifo: sry for my bad english :S
[23:54] <FallenAngel1> could i install the 32 bit on 64 bit?
[23:55] <Myfathervsyours> pfifo, i'm trying it, but it don't understand what it says
[23:55] <skiwithpete> anyone know about enabling multitouch on the touchpad in 10.04?
[23:55] <pfifo> stip, im telling you to completly erase your hard drive and repartition in a different manner, im assuming you dont want todo that and are asking about restoring windows via the windows install CD. am i correct?
[23:55] <hiexpo> FallenAngel1,  yes
[23:55] <acerimmer_> !synaptics|skiwithpete
[23:55] <FallenAngel1> hiexpo:  there won't be any problem uh?
[23:55] <pfifo> Myfathervsyours, goto pastebin.org and copy and paste it there for us to see
[23:55] <skiwithpete> acerimmer_, I've been on there, can''t figure it out
[23:56] <acerimmer_> skiwithpete: system specs??
[23:56] <IdleOne> what is the command to start openoffice?
[23:56] <hiexpo> FallenAngel1,  - i can not say that in 1100 percent but it should 32 bit will work better on a 64 bit sys
[23:57] <pfifo> IdleOne, openoffice.org
[23:57] <skiwithpete> acer laptop, new ish, had the multitouch sticker -- probably works under Windows7, but - I don't use that junk
[23:57] <IdleOne> never mind openoffice.org it is
[23:57] <IdleOne> pfifo: thanks :)
[23:57] <erUSUL> IdleOne: oowritter ? oocalc ?
[23:57] <FallenAngel1> ok hiexpo thanks a lot:)
[23:57] <hiexpo> FallenAngel1,  no prob
[23:58] <skiwithpete> i read somewhere that there was .deb download to enable multi-touch on the trackpad?
[23:58] <skiwithpete> but I've google-fu'ed it and nothing
[23:58] <Myfathervsyours> pfifo, i don't know how to use it
[23:58] <Xintruder> hey guys
[23:58] <BarnacleBob> skiwithpete, the hardware has to support multitouch
[23:58] <acerimmer_> skiwithpete: http://www.synaptics.com/search/node/synaptics%20linux
[23:59] <Xintruder> whats the best site i can view to browse FREE apple software and programs
[23:59] <pfifo> !pastebin | Myfathervsyours
[23:59] <Myfathervsyours> http://pastebin.org/340381
[23:59] <Myfathervsyours> ya
[23:59] <Myfathervsyours> sorry, now i get it