[12:36] <pengulord> hello
[12:50] <Mikelevel> hi
[12:50] <Mikelevel> anybody can pastebin an lsmod?
[12:50] <Mikelevel> i need to know what modules are in use to cpufreq
[05:59] <vsamel> Question:: I have a DELL D620 with a docking station? How do I make Ubuntu work with docking / undocking?
[06:00] <LxJky> I'm not able to run k3bsetup. I'v changed the permission for cdrecord, cdrdao to 4750, but I'm still not able to run k3bsetup. Any direction will be greatly appreciated.
[06:01] <mjg59> vsamel: With feisty, it /should/ work
[06:01] <vsamel> using Edgy
[06:01] <mjg59> Then you don't
[06:01] <LxJky> vsamel: That is exactly the laptop i have, but I'm running Edgy 6.10. Right now I'm on the docking station. What issues are you experiencing?
[06:02] <Nailor_> mjg59: Have you looked at the bug concerning Asus+ipw3945?
[06:02] <vsamel> LxJky: ya i'm on edgy 6.10 too....i docked the laptop and have a dvi connected to the docking station...dont see anything there.
[06:03] <vsamel> LxJky: VGA does not work either
[06:04] <vsamel> LxJky: how did u get urs working?
[06:05] <LxJky> vsamel: Have you tried this site "http://ubuntu-laptop.sourceforge.net" They have a .pl which configures this laptop exactly as it should run.
[06:11] <vsamel> not yet will try now
[06:12] <mjg59> Excellent! A script to break things.
[06:12] <Nailor> Yup =)
[06:14] <vsamel> LxJky: where do u put this script?
[06:16] <Nailor> Running those "magic" scripts can produce a load of problems
[06:17] <mjg59> If you have an nvidia chip and you're using the nvidia driver and you want DVI to work when you hotplug the dock, then I'm afraid you'll have to talk to nvidia
[06:20] <LxJky> vsamel: save it in your /tmp directory. You need to be root to run this. Make sure you have update your laptop before you run this, and you need to be connected to the internet. This does not mean you need to have a browser running.
[06:20] <Nailor> mjg59: I've reported a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/99732), how in hell do I debug what happens in suspend/wahterver
[06:20] <LxJky> mjg59: It works flawlessly.
[06:20] <mjg59> If you run that script, please do not file any bugs
[06:21] <Nailor> LxJky: It propably works until next time you're Ubuntu updates kernel or some other
[06:21] <Nailor> ..packages
[06:21] <vsamel> hmm....Now i dunno what to do.... some people say its working for them...some say it could cause problems
[06:21] <mjg59> 1) don't use ndiswrapper
[06:21] <mjg59> 2) use the existing package manager tools to install the nvidia drivers if you want to
[06:22] <LxJky> vsamel: To get resume, and suspend to work follow this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellLatitudeD620.
[06:22] <mjg59> Nailor: No clue, I'm afraid
[06:22] <Nailor> Darn.
[06:23] <Nailor> It somehow (after 2.6.20-13 release of generic kernel) started to set my wifi to rf_kill mode in suspend.
[06:23] <mjg59> Oh that wiki page is full of errors
[06:23] <Nailor> With 2.6.20-13 the MODULES_WHITELIST works somehow (not fully bullet proof)
[06:23] <LxJky> mjg59: I've been trying to get my Dell Lattitude to work with the drivers that activate nVidia, and the bcm43xx without success untill I use the Ubuntu Laptop Project script. Stop scarring this person. The sript works flawlessly.
[06:24] <Nailor> So did the Automatix too. :P
[06:26] <mjg59> LxJky: All I'm saying is that once you've run some third party script that messes with your system configuration and installed impossible to debug Windows drivers, you're not getting any support from us
[06:27] <vsamel> Looks like I dont have an nvidia chip no dvi on my laptop...but vga doesnt work either
[06:28] <vsamel> I dont want to mess around with my wireless and stuff....all i need to get in place is the display working through the docking station and dock/undock support
[06:29] <Nailor> well, mjg59 said it should work with feisty
[06:29] <vsamel> I'm using Edgy though
[06:29] <mjg59> Well, I can't guarantee it
[06:29] <LxJky> mjg59: I understand, and respect your position; however, I was not able to get my laptop to function correctly with nVidia or wireless interface untill I used the Ubuntu Laptop Project Script. I could even get the cutter program to help, and I was getting help from Ubuntu Support.
[06:30] <mjg59> But it's more likely to
[06:30] <mjg59> Please don't call it the Ubuntu Laptop Project Script
[06:30] <mjg59> That's not the Ubuntu Laptop Project
[06:30] <LxJky> Like vsamel, I using Edgy 6.10. That is what we have in common.
[06:30] <Nailor> vsamel: Well, you could try to update to Feisty, if you dare
[06:32] <vsamel> allrite. I'm using Ubuntu on my work laptop, but for now trying anything new and stoping myself from working seems to bold. Maybe i'll get back to you guys later. Conflicting solutions are always scary to naive user like me. Thanks guys
[06:32] <LxJky> mjg59: the website is http://ubuntu-laptop.sourceforge.net. However; I stand corrected.
[06:32] <mjg59> LxJky: Well, it shouldn't be
[06:34] <LxJky> mjg59: perhaps you can provide some insight as to why I can't seem to run k3bsetup after installing it via Synaptic. This is the reason I visited this chat line to begin with.
[06:35] <mjg59> I don't use KDE, I'm afraid
[06:36] <LxJky> mjg59: I thought that the defaul desktop which Edgy installed was gnome. Is this not true. How do I verify?
[06:37] <mjg59> Yes, it's gnome, but k3b is a KDE application
[06:38] <LxJky> mjg59: Got it. What do you recommend?
[06:38] <mjg59> That depends on what you want to do
[06:39] <mjg59> Serpantine is installed by default and will produce audio CDs
[06:39] <mjg59> If you just want to burn data files, use nautilus
[06:40] <LxJky> mjg59: Burn CD / DVD / DATA / Music


[15:04] <akgraner> pleia2, I'll summarize a post about all the video interviews that are up with links for GCN
[15:04] <akgraner> Mark's was added Friday
[17:45] <pleia2> akgraner: great!
[20:51] <pleia2> philipballew: thanks so much for looking at those articles, I've moved extra ones down to the extra news section where we don't need summaries
[20:53] <philipballew> Alright, s morningounds good. I Was going to be take control of some summaries here this afternoon. We should be able to get this out Monday.
[20:53] <philipballew> if i can get these summaries
[20:54] <philipballew> I am in charge officially or the Ubuntu Fourms here and Launchpad, and LoCo, but nothing has come up on the UF or launchpad thats really news worthy that i saw. only loco
[20:54] <pleia2> hope so :)
[20:55] <pleia2> yeah
[20:55] <philipballew> so i put all the loco ones up, but still do whatever needs work. its a group thing anyway
[20:56] <pleia2> anyway, I think I pulled everything in now, so we can start summaries
[20:56] <pleia2> just sent out the email
[20:56]  * philipballew open's google docs
[20:57] <pleia2> it's huge
[20:57] <pleia2> you can ignore the UDS stuff for now
[20:57]  * nlsthzn sees the list and shudders
[20:57] <nlsthzn> :p
[20:58] <nlsthzn> Well I am half way with night shift... so I should get a few done and then I get home I can get a lot done...
[20:58]  * nlsthzn goes into semi-summary mode
[21:07] <philipballew> pleia2, I am currently typing day 5 remoteing to uds. i'll post mine there
[21:08] <philipballew> sorry its late
[21:08] <pleia2> philipballew: oh good, I was going to ask about that :)
[21:08] <philipballew> I have been thinking about what to say in it. Its about showing recognition for users as well.
[21:09] <philipballew> it was something i think we need to do
[21:09]  * pleia2 nods
[21:34] <pleia2> akgraner: can you look at the doc, not sure what to do about the piles of UDS posts
[21:35] <pleia2> maybe a short summary for all the content for each person?
[21:37] <akgraner> Or we can can do a summary for for the whole thing saying something like this - "This UDS was packed full of excitement and energy.  Post about almost all of the session tracks can be found in the overwhelming number of post we've seen on the planet since and during UDS-P.  Below are links from those who took the time to blog about their experience at this UDS."
[21:37] <akgraner> s/Post/Posts
[21:38] <akgraner> then just link to the title of the posts and links like we do in Sneak Peek
[21:38] <akgraner> this way it won't be too long and we don't leave people out
[21:38] <akgraner> more people than ever blogged this time
[21:39] <akgraner> and group the links by person together
[21:43] <pleia2> sounds good
[21:45] <philipballew> this is a pretty big newsletter
[21:46] <pleia2> akgraner: I think we should also move the Cloud News up to where Launchpad and Forums are in the template
[21:47] <akgraner> go for it :-)
[21:48] <pleia2> done
[21:50] <pleia2> ok, time to run out and do some shopping
[22:01] <philipballew> LoCo news done
[22:06]  * philipballew attempts the planet summaries
[22:34]  * nlsthzn goes out of summary mode as he got a total of one done and now feels all crossed eyed @ 02:30 am ...


[00:01] <rww> Hello. Can someone point me to the current bots policy that covers #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[00:04] <rww> #ubuntu too, now that I think of it. Though I imagine they're the same.
[00:43] <h00k> rww: !bots
[00:43] <h00k> er
[00:43] <h00k> !bots | rww
[00:43] <h00k> no...
[00:44] <h00k> rww: Does the wiki cover your questions or do you have others?
[01:06] <Jordan_U> marco69 in #ubuntu
[01:07] <h00k> Jordan_U: I'm aware, thanks:)
[01:08] <h00k> @login
[01:08] <h00k> @btlogin
[01:49] <itsjustme> why am i banned form ubuntu when i have never said a word?
[01:50] <itsjustme> not a sinlge word?
[01:50] <itsjustme> single*
[01:52] <Pici> itsjustme: did you follow the directions in #ubuntu-proxy-users ?
[01:53] <Pici> itsjustme: it should have set an exception for you.
[01:53] <itsjustme> dont know of instructions...simply went to go in the same ways as i idd before and it says banned
[01:53] <itsjustme> did nothing different
[01:54] <itsjustme> oput in nick
[01:54] <itsjustme> and put in the word ubuntu
[01:54] <Pici> you joined as sleepyboss before, right?
[01:54] <itsjustme> yes
[01:54] <itsjustme> and SLboss too
[01:54] <itsjustme> entering all the same way
[01:54] <itsjustme> never said a single word
[01:54] <itsjustme> not one
[01:55] <Pici> itsjustme: Its nothing *you* did, we have a blanket ban forward on webchat users.
[01:55] <itsjustme> why?
[01:55] <itsjustme> is this forever?
[01:56] <Pici> Its because people webchats to evade bans.
[01:56] <rww> h00k: oops, sorry, I wandered off. I'll go look.
[01:56] <itsjustme> ok let me see...i have no bans on me...so i am blocked in case i am trying to evadde a ban?
[01:57] <Pici> itsjustme: Can you please try to join #ubuntu and let me watch the bots do their thing?
[01:57] <itsjustme> ok here we go
[01:57] <itsjustme> i di it
[01:57] <itsjustme> did it
[01:57] <Pici> hrm.
[01:57] <itsjustme> or i should say i tried to do it
[01:58] <itsjustme> say (+b) you are banned
[01:58] <Pici> itsjustme: Okay, something seems to be wrong, try again. I've added a manual exception for you.
[01:59] <Pici> I'll debug this myself.
[01:59] <itsjustme> ok i am in
[01:59] <Pici> Sorry for the inconvenence.
[01:59] <itsjustme> but what i really like is to go into the ubuntu proxy 1st?
[01:59] <itsjustme> when i sign in
[01:59] <itsjustme> does the proxy thing cloak me or serve any purpose?
[02:00] <Pici> The webchat shows your ip in hex in your ident and in your realname field. We use that together with our bots to make sure that you don't match against any regular bans.
[02:00] <itsjustme> which i wont ever cos i dont do anything like that
[02:00] <Pici> And when we do ban a webchat user, the bots make sure to ban their real address too.
[02:01] <Pici> itsjustme: Well, some people do and ruin it for everyone else :/
[02:01] <itsjustme> so am i cloaked
[02:01] <itsjustme> or will u plewase cloak me
[02:01] <itsjustme> i dont care if ops see me
[02:01] <itsjustme> but the public shouldnt
[02:02] <Pici> I cannot, anyway, those two fields will always be shown even if you have a different cloak.
[02:02] <Pici> if you us the webchat, that is.
[02:02] <itsjustme> so it is impossible
[02:02] <itsjustme> ok well thanks
[02:02] <Pici> Thats what freenode has decided, if you want a cloak for when you connect with a regular IRC client, you can ask in #freenode
[02:03] <itsjustme> yes ok thank you for ur help
[02:07] <Pici> hrm
[02:07] <Pici> This is weird.
[02:08] <h00k> Pici: way to handle it
[02:10] <Pici> h00k: :)
[02:10] <Pici> now if I could only figure out why webchat people are banned...
[02:12] <Pici> we
[02:12] <Pici> er
[02:16] <Pici> Well, I removed and re-added the ban forward for webchat people and it started working again o.O
[02:20] <funkyHat> /grep doesn't seem to work on /mode output ⢁(
[04:06] <IdleOne> Any rules about me begging the ops team for testimonials? :)
[04:06] <ikonia> for membership ?
[04:08] <IdleOne> yes
[04:13] <ikonia> post your url
[04:13] <IdleOne> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/idleone
[04:14] <IdleOne> If anybody else feels I have the right stuff please add kind word ^^^ :)
[04:47] <ikonia> what's the support stance on lubuntu ?
[04:48] <Flannel> It's in the repos
[04:48] <ikonia> !info lubuntu
[04:48] <Flannel> !info lubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <ikonia> interesting
[04:49] <IdleOne> so we support it
[04:49] <IdleOne> ?
[04:49] <Flannel> It *was* going to be offiically recognized in Lucid, but they ran into problems so it's getting delayed a release
[04:49] <ikonia> multiverse, yes it's supported
[04:49] <IdleOne> ahh well cool then
[04:50] <Flannel> It's multiverse because of the media player included in the metapackage, by the way
[04:51] <Flannel> (as opposed to some other licensing issue with something more significant in it, LXDE or whatnot)
[04:52] <IdleOne> Flannel: I remember reading they are going to get that fixed and should be ready for officialness by 10.10
[04:52] <Flannel> IdleOne: I don't think that's the issue causing it to be unofficial
[04:52] <Flannel> but I didn't keep up on it, at any rate.
[04:53] <IdleOne> neither did I to be honest
[05:12] <ikonia> !info rp-pppoe
[05:37] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-arabic could use some people in it
[07:53] <jpds> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mbp_/4624069108/in/photostream/
[08:10] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <jussi> jpds: why did I know that was going to turn up at some point in here...
[10:08] <knome> happy geek pride day
[10:22] <Jordan_U> vbman-w in #ubuntu
[10:24] <ikonia> he's gone
[12:03] <ikonia> fed up to the back teeth of spaceghost everything has to be made into an issue with him
[12:42] <ikonia> is tor open ? I thought we had that on a block too ?
[16:28] <Pici> er.
[16:28] <Pici> !gnome-media-player
[18:12] <jussi> !scope
[18:12] <jussi> !info gnome-media-player
[18:13] <jussi> meh, Im not for factoids like that. but thats just me.
[20:37] <Pici> wise_crypt could use some more tact.
[20:38] <mneptok> agreed. i asked him to back off. he is doing so, i hope.
[20:39] <mneptok> "Gouda" /part'ed anyway
[21:33] <maco> jpds: thanks
[22:20] <FotherMucker> !kirby
[22:25] <ikonia> !kirby
[22:25] <ikonia> ?
[22:34] <ikonia> hello helo
[22:34] <helo> hi
[22:34] <ikonia> how can we help today ?
[22:35] <helo> discussing this is a dumb waste of time, but i am curious how the following is rationalized: irc must be kept "clean"... but it's OK to have official packages in the repos with profanity?
[22:35] <ikonia> sorry, could you expand a little on that please
[22:36] <helo> well... in #ubuntu proper, the 'no profanity' rule is strictly enforced
[22:37] <ikonia> yes
[22:37] <helo> but it is common practice in the open source community to use profanity... particularly in source code
[22:37] <ikonia> that's nothing to do with irc
[22:37] <ikonia> ubuntu irc is not the open source community
[22:37] <ikonia> there are some packages with rude names, however ubuntu doesn't control the names of those packages
[22:38] <helo> so... profanity must be kept out of #ubuntu because it is an advertised support channel?
[22:39] <ikonia> just because it's polite
[22:39] <ikonia> people of all ages and background use the channel, they don't need to see offensive content
[22:39] <ikonia> it's a support channel so it's important to keep to just support discussion
[22:40] <ikonia> however, there are (as you said) packages with rude names, so there can be a time when certain rude words do come up in conversation with legitimate reason, it's just then use common sense and don't keep saying the words over and over
[22:41] <helo> seems like adding rules about profanity to an IRC support channel is outside of 'just support discussion'
[22:41] <ikonia> no its not
[22:42] <ikonia> the rule is simple a.) support discussion only b.) don't use offensive language in that discussion
[22:42] <ikonia> it's all part of the same overall concept, the ubuntu code of conduct
[22:42] <ikonia> which in reality is just common sense "be nice to each other"
[22:42] <helo> profanity does not in any way detract from the support aspect of the channel
[22:42] <ikonia> helo: people don't need to see proganity, people can find it offensive, there is no need to communicate with profanity
[22:42] <helo> if it does, as with anything, then i can understand it being dealt with
[22:43] <helo> people don't need to see all kinds of things that are allowed
[22:43] <ikonia> the only topic in #ubuntu is support discussion, that's all that's allowed
[22:43] <ikonia> people need to see that
[22:43] <helo> right... nobody's discussing profanity... they're discussion support...
[22:43] <helo> the rules themselves cause profanity to be discussed
[22:44] <ikonia> agreed
[22:44] <ikonia> no they don't
[22:44] <ikonia> just don't use profanity or offensive language in your conversation
[22:44] <ikonia> then it will never need to be mentioned to you
[22:44] <ikonia> it's a pretty simple concept a.) support discussion only b.) no offensive language
[22:44] <helo> i'm just saying... ignoring profanity results in less 'offtopicness' than chastizing it
[22:44] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[22:45] <ikonia> it educates people to stop, it detracts from the topic for a moment
[22:45] <ikonia> but it stops someone who is unaware of the no-swearing rule from swearing
[22:45] <helo> can you point to any support channels that have been harmed by profanity?
[22:45] <ikonia> as I said, if you don't swear, there will be no need to mention it
[22:45] <ikonia> no-one is saying it harms the channel
[22:45] <helo> do you think #debian has been suffering greatly because of all of the profanity there?
[22:45] <ikonia> it's the rule of the channel as people don't need to see it
[22:45] <ikonia> nope
[22:46] <ikonia> I don't think debian suffers at all
[22:47] <ikonia> bottom line is, - those are the rules of the channels, you can eithe follow them, or not use the channel
[22:47] <ikonia> either
[22:47] <helo> profanity does not have the capacity to cause harm, being particular combinations of letters/sounds, so why bother?
[22:47] <ikonia> because people can find it offensive
[22:47] <ikonia> people of all ages and backgrounds use the channel
[22:47] <ikonia> they don't need to see profanity
[22:48] <ikonia> if you can't communicate without using profanity you need to improve your social skills
[22:48] <ikonia> if you need to use profanity to discuss your issue, #ubuntu is not the right channel for you, there are plenty of other channels you can use that do not have a language policy
[22:48] <helo> if only my social skills were up to the task ;)
[22:49] <ikonia> only you can control that
[22:50] <helo> i'm not saying i have a problem not swearing (maybe occasionally something may slip out)... the policy just seems contrary to the general openmindedness that prevails on IRC, linux, the internet, etc
[22:51] <ikonia> this channel is not linux or the internet
[22:51] <helo> if someone has enough of a problem with swearing that they don't want to see it, you will not find them using IRC
[22:51] <ikonia> it's an IRC channel that follows the rules setup buy ubuntu's language policy
[22:51] <helo> yes yes... "walled garden"
[22:52] <ikonia> what opensource/linux/irc in geneal does is not relevant
[22:52] <ikonia> helo: not really anything more to discuss, those are the rules of the ubuntu channel, it's up to you if you chose to follow them or not and continue to use the channel
[22:52] <helo> right... you are god, nobody can tell you what to do... it's just silly
[22:52] <helo> the policy is silly, that is
[22:52] <ikonia> I'm not god
[22:53] <ikonia> no it's not
[22:53] <ikonia> I don't want to talk about technical issues with someone who has to swear to get his point across
[22:53] <helo> thanks for taking part in this discussion :)
[22:53] <ikonia> you're welcome
[22:54] <helo> that was intended as "ubuntu rules are god, they don't depend on outside influence or conventions" rather than "you are god"
[22:54] <ikonia> helo: that is correct then, Ubuntu rules are set and are not influenced by outside topics
[22:58] <ikonia> I must leave now, so if there is nothing else, I'll end this conversation now
[22:58] <helo> sure, take care


[00:44] <dav7x> Hi everyone! Has anyone here been able to upgrade 12.04 to the quantal lts enablement stack wihtout breaking kubuntu (ppa) backported packages?
[00:47] <valorie> dav7x: upgrading always removes the PPAs
[00:48] <valorie> it would be unusual for packages to break, though
[00:49] <dav7x> valorie: sure, it's because of dependency of kubuntu ppa packages on kernel names not ending in "quantal". I've read some successful upgrade stories, but following their procedure it didn't work for me.
[00:52] <valorie> I'm no expert, but can you say what difficulties you encountered?
[00:52] <dav7x> valorie: sorry, the issue is xserver-xorg-lts-quantal, not the kernel. But the stack upgrades kernel and xserver. Now I'm wondering if I can upgrade to the 3.5 or 3.8 kernels "by hand" (without lts stack) but keeping xserver 1.11
[00:53] <valorie> far beyond what I know, but perhaps someone else can chime in
[00:54] <dav7x> valorie: thank you :)
[01:35] <pasjrwoctx> HELP, I have been trying for a week to get XBMC to let me watch Live TV, can anyone help?
[01:47] <dav7x> pasjrwoctx: no experience with xbmc here, but a quick search got me this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nNHVRBlKIY
[01:47] <dav7x> and this http://lifehacker.com/5981757/how-to-watch-and-record-live-tv-on-your-xbmc-media-center
[05:30] <eos> hi everybody! Massive problem here: on kubuntu 13:04 64 bit when you log in into kde "nepomukservicestub nepomukfileindexer" eats all the disk IO for maybe 5 or 6 minutes and reads 3GB from the disk EVERY TIME.
[05:30] <eos> is there anyone who know how to deal with it?
[06:56] <cpatrick08> pastebin.com/5PDxhJXU
[06:57] <valorie> cpatrick08: you might try #plasma if you get no answer here
[06:58] <valorie> asking your question in channel would be a good idea though
[07:57] <Name141> is Kubuntu one of the supported LTS' ?
[07:57] <Name141> I know Lubuntu or something didn't have LTS support.
[07:59] <Tm_T> Name141: Kubuntu is
[07:59] <Name141> okie dokey
[07:59] <Name141> All though I had to go in to the mirror to download it
[08:00] <Name141> it wasn't on the selection drop down box on the main page
[08:00] <Name141> only 13.04
[08:00] <valorie> kubuntu.org has both
[08:00] <valorie> latest and LTS
[08:01] <Name141> I see it now
[08:01] <Name141> as the second option..
[08:01] <Name141> oh well
[08:11] <kai-uwe> can packages from experimental be seen in muon?
[08:12] <kai-uwe> the repo appears to be configured but no calligra or kolor-manager are searchable
[08:13] <kai-uwe> ooops, had to select the Kubuntu Experimental from the left side
[08:13] <kai-uwe> now everything is fine, sorry for the noice
[11:06] <LogicallyDashing> I'm trying to connect Kexi to a MySQL database on another server
[11:06] <LogicallyDashing> I can access this database fine by command line, but Kexi gives me error codes: 111, 2003
[11:06] <LogicallyDashing> Somehow both in the same error dialog.
[11:07] <LogicallyDashing> I am not having much luck getting more information on either of them. Seems like the 2003 is some generic client side error. Where should I be looking for these error codes?
[11:10] <LogicallyDashing> Um... maybe just ignore me 'cause the command line mysql isn't actually working either
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:38] <pavel> привет народ, помогите
[12:39] <Unit193> !ru | pavel
[12:39] <pavel> join
[12:40] <pavel>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:41] <pavel> ?
[12:41] <pavel> люди нужна помощь
[12:42] <Unit193> Удалите первый пространстве
[13:14] <pavel> #ubuntu-ru
[13:14] <pavel> ау
[13:15] <pavel> <-- Ashareth<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[13:25] <ubuntu> ciao
[13:26] <pavel> help
[13:26] <pavel> помогите
[13:31] <BluesKaj> !ru > pavel
[13:31] <pavel> ru
[13:41] <snikker> i've 2 user in the same group but i'm unable to write into the other directory even of it's it's set in 774 mode
[13:43] <snikker> someone can help me, please?
[13:46] <Artakha> snikker, to clarify; you have two users within one group and one of them cannot write a given directory?
[13:47] <Artakha> run `groups` on both users and ensure they're really in the group and make sure that the directory has the group owner set properly
[13:48] <snikker> yes i've two user with a common secondary group, but i'm unable to write into the directory of user-2 with user-1
[13:48] <snikker> the user are both in the group
[13:49] <tsimpson> when you edit a users groups it doesn't apply until after you restart the session, ie logging out and in again or closing and reopening the terminal
[13:49] <Artakha> hmm i thought reopening the terminal alone was enough?
[13:49] <tsimpson> that could be the problem if you haven't done that
[13:50] <snikker> tsimpson: i'm alreadu loggon out
[13:50] <snikker> *loggin
[13:50] <tsimpson> the shell gets its permissions when you login, then everything started from the shell (including the shell the GUI is running from) inherits those permissions
[13:51] <Artakha> ah, right
[13:52] <snikker> other hints?
[13:55] <tsimpson> snikker: did you run "groups" and check the output yet?
[13:55] <snikker> yes, i've run groups and i see the goup name
[13:55] <snikker> *group name
[13:56] <magespawn> good day
[13:56] <Artakha> ls
[13:56] <Artakha> erm
[13:56] <magespawn> i have just upgraded to 13.04, anybody knwo how to add back multiple desktops?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> magespawn, system settings>workspace behavior>virtual desktops
[14:00] <magespawn> ty BluesKaj
[14:02] <BluesKaj> then you can arrange them by right clicking on virtual desktop pager in the panel and choosing 'pager settings'
[14:02] <magespawn> man that has been driving me nuts, i kept clicking on windows behaviour for some odd reason
[14:03]  * magespawn puts on the dunce hat and sits in the corner
[14:07] <BluesKaj> magespawn, no need to beat yourself up about it , there's alot of stuff to remember , and IMO some of the placements for a lot of kde settings in system settings doesn't seem logical to me
[14:09] <magespawn> BluesKaj: a bit irksome though
[14:11] <pavel> Application: Оболочка Plasma (plasma-desktop), signal: Segmentation fault
[14:11] <pavel> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
[14:11] <pavel> [Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f514bc07780 (LWP 1617))]
[14:11] <pavel> Thread 7 (Thread 0x7f5127f77700 (LWP 1625)):
[14:11] <pavel> #0  0x00007fffce1ff8de in ?? ()
[14:11] <pavel> #1  0x00007f513f93115d in __GI_clock_gettime (clock_id=<optimized out>, tp=<optimized out>) at ../sysdeps/unix/clock_gettime.c:116
[14:11] <FloodBotK1> pavel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <pavel> #27 0x00007f51486a1c0d in timerSourceDispatch (source=<optimized out>) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:186
[14:15] <pavel> #28 timerSourceDispatch (source=<optimized out>) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:180
[14:15] <pavel> #29 0x00007f51486a1c31 in idleTimerSourceDispatch (source=<optimized out>) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:233
[14:15] <pavel> #30 0x00007f513f67fd53 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
[14:15] <pavel> #31 0x00007f513f6800a0 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
[14:15] <pavel> #32 0x00007f513f680164 in g_main_context_iteration () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
[14:15] <FloodBotK1> pavel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <pavel> #33 0x00007f51486a23bf in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents (this=0x17a0ad0, flags=...) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:424
[14:15] <pavel> #34 0x00007f5147a9dd5e in QGuiEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents (this=<optimized out>, flags=...) at kernel/qguieventdispatcher_glib.cpp:204
[14:18] <BluesKaj> pavel, what are you doing ?
[14:27] <jojoax> hi, idea which oss groupware may be used comfortably with precise 12.04 LTS?
[14:27] <jojoax> for server. any hint would be appriciated.
[14:27] <jojoax> I was currently disappointed with kolab.org
[14:28] <jojoax> due ugly deployment on precise server. too much apt errors and misbehaviors
[14:30] <denisboyun> hi guys how to enable mobile broadband in kubuntu 12.04?
[14:30] <genii-around> jojoax: PHProjekt is fairly good, although I am not sure if there is currently a package for *buntu
[14:43] <jojoax> @denisboyun kde has not an really working applet for the NetworkMAnager
[14:44] <jojoax> install nm-applet. it is in network-manager-gnome package
[14:45] <jojoax> and run it on login as autostart service, or via Alt-F2 nm-applet after install
[14:45] <jojoax> this does it for me on my work notebook
[14:49] <genii-around> !ru | pavel
[15:09] <jojoax> @genii-around, I'll have a look on it
[15:48] <ronalds_88> Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[15:48] <ronalds_88> how to fix dependencies?
[15:48] <ronalds_88> good day
[15:48] <ronalds_88> I lost widgets
[15:49] <ronalds_88> and there are broken packages on my kubuntu
[15:52] <genii-around> ronalds_88: I would suggest in Konsole:  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists/partial && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[15:52] <genii-around> Hm, gone already.
[16:20] <keithzg> Hmm. Just rebooted with a new PCI-E USB 3.0 card in, it shows up in lspci but no device I plug in gets recognized (or even gets power).
[16:30] <pierpiotr> Hello folks
[16:31] <pierpiotr> I have a question regrding cube screens and screen edges
[16:48] <F41l> Strange behavior.. my Konversation runs every time I start my Kubuntu box (13.04). I checked autostart but there's no entries as far as I can tell.
[16:51] <genii-around> F41l: Probably want to set in System Settings...Startup and Shutdown...Session Management  to Restore Manually Saved Session ... then get the things open or closed on your desktop how you want it when desktop should load, and then save a session from Leave...Save Session
[17:10] <F41l> thanks genii-around, I just set it to empty session.
[17:10] <F41l> Since that's more preferrable.
[17:12] <genii-around> :)
[17:41] <hundinderpfanne> aloa
[21:11] <stefan___> dsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[21:18]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[21:36] <papi> hi
[21:36] <papi> i have a big priblem
[21:36] <papi> my ubuntu hangs every few minutes
[21:36] <papi> :-(
[21:36] <papi> anyone can help
[21:37] <papi> i have syslog n xorg log
[21:42] <genii-around> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[22:39] <keithzg> Hmm, is it known that LDAP authentication doesn't work in the LightDM greeter on 13.04?
[22:41] <genii-around> keithzg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127389/how-to-configure-ubuntu-as-an-ldap-client
[22:41] <keithzg> genii-around: Ah, so lightdm has to be configured separately now too?
[22:41] <genii-around> Looks like, yup
[22:43] <keithzg> Hmmmmm but that's just for creating the users' home directory. That's fine since I already had that set up fine in /etc/pam.d/login
[22:44] <keithzg> Yeah, looking through I'
[22:45] <keithzg> ve done everything there, but it still fails for me. Console (either remote or local) logins work fine though, it's just LightDM that fails.
[22:47] <keithzg> Judging by the auth log, LightDM is trying to log in that user account without a password, so it doesn't seem to be successfully verifying it with LDAP for some reason or another.
[22:48] <keithzg> Sigh. I feel like LightDM is another PulseAudio; one of these years it'll be stable and featureful and we'll all be glad it exists, but for now it's just aggrevating and broken.


[06:08] <Kilos> morning all
[06:55] <trender> (.)(.)
[06:55] <trender>   __
[06:55] <Kilos> hi trender
[06:55] <trender> yo
[08:10] <Symmetria> sup
[08:10] <Symmetria> lol I was playing cards in a kenyan casino last night, won some money, but the kenyan currency doesnt exactly lend itself to carrying large sums of cash
[09:02] <Kilos> what does this mean 504 Gateway Time-out
[09:03] <Kilos> is that site dead
[09:04] <inetpro> Kilos: good morning
[09:04] <inetpro> what site?
[09:04] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[09:05] <Kilos> http://remastersys.en.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[09:05] <Kilos> maaz ping http://remastersys.en.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[09:05] <Maaz> Kilos: Error: unknown host http://remastersys.en.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[09:05] <inetpro> Kilos: http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E504.html
[09:06] <inetpro> Kilos: works for me
[09:06] <Kilos> oh my
[09:06] <Kilos> now its working, ty inetpro
[09:07] <inetpro> eh, magic touch
[09:07] <Kilos> yeah
[09:07] <inetpro> :-)
[09:07] <Kilos> did you get sleeping pills for you friend
[09:07] <Kilos> s/you/your
[09:08] <inetpro> not yet
[09:08] <inetpro> but he's a clever dude, where would I put them?
[09:08] <Kilos> tell the gardener to try speaking to it in different languages
[09:08] <Kilos> you put them under the chickens skin
[09:09] <inetpro> sjoe, you want another one to be victimized?
[09:09] <Kilos> then let him have that one
[09:09] <Kilos> ya but you wring its neck first man
[09:09] <inetpro> ai!
[09:10] <Kilos> take an ugly one you dont like
[09:10] <Kilos> rofl
[09:10] <Kilos> you also one of those that buys chicken from checkers
[09:11] <inetpro> I don't have enough of my own to eat them yet
[09:11] <inetpro> now I have even less
[09:11] <Kilos> you never will if you dont put your friend to sleep
[09:12] <Kilos> then post him to japan or something
[09:12] <inetpro> can I make money with him?
[09:12] <Kilos> not if it bites
[09:12] <inetpro> ai!
[09:13] <Kilos> if not you can sell him as a pet
[09:13] <Kilos> but to someone far away or he'll be back like arnie
[09:15] <Kilos> you at work or home inetpro ?
[09:15] <inetpro> but when he comes back I can sell him again
[09:15] <inetpro> luckily at home
[09:16] <Kilos> ah you keep peeking out the window to see if hes come yet
[09:16] <Kilos> hehe
[09:17] <inetpro> he's nowhere to be seen this morning
[09:17] <inetpro> but I'm trying to be on high alert
[09:18] <Kilos> lol he knows, hide your bike
[10:27] <somaunn> Hi everyone
[10:28] <HawkiesZA_> Hi somaunn
[10:29] <somaunn> HawkiesZA_, Hows life here ?
[10:29] <HawkiesZA_> Define here?
[10:35] <somaunn> HawkiesZA_, this channel
[10:38] <HawkiesZA_> aha. It's generally pretty quiet. Kilos can get quite chatty though ;)
[10:38] <Kilos> haha
[10:40] <HawkiesZA_> Howzit going Kilos?
[10:41] <Kilos> good ty and you HawkiesZA_
[10:42] <Kilos> i chatted to the fly and he said he will tell you what needs working on in the ibid greeter script
[10:42] <HawkiesZA_> Pretty good too. Sunny skies and <holds thumbs> passing code tests
[10:43] <Kilos> good luck
[10:43] <HawkiesZA_> Ah, excellent. He's been sick the past couple of days, hopefully he gets better soon
[10:43] <Kilos> eish poor man
[10:48] <Kilos> hi Cantide
[10:48] <Cantide> hello :)
[10:48] <Kilos> wassup somaunn
[11:43] <charl> good afternoon
[11:44] <Kilos> lo charl
[11:44] <charl> hi Kilos
[11:44] <charl> how's it going
[11:44] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[11:44] <charl> i'm doing well thanks
[11:45] <charl> i just saw something strange, i was looking at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:45] <charl> ubuntu 12.10 reaches EoL april 2014
[11:46] <charl> but ubuntu 13.04 reaches EoL january 2014??
[11:46] <charl> that's very strange to me
[11:46] <Kilos> ya they shortened support time
[11:46] <charl> ah i see
[11:46] <Kilos> only LTS will get the long support
[11:47] <Kilos> and only LTS dvds will be supplied
[11:47] <charl> i think that is quite logical because cds are no longer being used much anyway
[11:48] <Cantide> yeah, and shorter support time frees them up for other things
[11:48] <Kilos> ya
[11:48] <charl> yeah it sounds logical to me as well
[11:48] <Cantide> those needing stability and support should only use LTS versions
[11:48] <Cantide> those wanted to test new features can try the versions in between
[11:48] <charl> was just surprised to see that 12.10 is supported until after 13.04
[11:48]  * Cantide is waiting for 14.04 :)
[11:49] <charl> i installed 13.04 on my laptop, but my lenovo laptop is very easy to keep up to date
[11:50] <Cantide> what do you think of 13.04
[11:50] <Cantide> i've downloaded the iso, but not yet been able to run it
[11:50] <charl> i still have 12.10 on my desktop at work, i actually wanted to install 12.04 but i had trouble getting it to boot
[11:51] <charl> i have a dell optiplex 9010 which comes with a uefi boot manager
[11:51] <Cantide> ah
[11:52] <charl> i run vmware so i am careful of just upgrading my work machine to a newer version of the linux kernel
[11:52] <Cantide> uefi :'(
[11:53] <charl> first need to make sure it is supported, if memory serves correctly my laptop is now running 3.7 but my desktop is still running 3.5
[11:54] <charl> but as far as 13.04 is concerned, i run kubuntu and have noticed very few differences
[11:54] <charl> just a general upgrade of all the software
[11:54] <charl> which is nice, in some small ways
[12:05] <charl> on a different note, does anyone here run an xmpp server?
[12:05] <charl> a xmpp, dunno
[12:08] <Cantide> an seems best there :p
[12:08]  * Cantide doesn't
[12:08] <Cantide> yeah, i think a lot of the changes in 13.04 were in unity
[12:24] <somaunn> Hi
[12:28] <charl> hi somaunn
[12:29] <somaunn> Hi charl
[12:33] <somaunn> any one tested ubuntu 13.04 or kubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:35] <charl> me for one
[12:35] <charl> i run kubuntu 13.04 on my laptop
[12:36] <somaunn> good
[12:36] <charl> i'm sure ubuntu would be well-tested by a number of people before it is released though, what specifically did you want to know?
[12:36] <somaunn> i'm actually runing both ubuntu & kubuntu 13.04
[12:37] <charl> oh good
[12:37] <charl> you can run the two together, you just need to have both the ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages installed
[12:37] <charl> then you can select which desktop environment you want to use when you login
[12:38] <charl> most login managers have an option to select the environment
[12:38] <somaunn> that's right
[12:38] <somaunn> but i've actually installed ubuntu on my Desktop and kubuntu on my laptop
[12:38] <charl> display managers i mean
[12:39] <charl> same here, although i am still running ubuntu 12.10 on my desktop
[12:42] <somaunn> despite the graphic card i'm using is not a pro card but things are okay
[12:42] <charl> i use intel hd graphics cards on both my desktop and laptop
[12:43] <charl> you don't need a fancy graphics card just to run a desktop these days
[13:05] <charl> wow got jabberd2 talking across ipv6, nice
[13:05] <charl> just had to uncomment a setting
[14:00] <charl> ciao
[14:47] <Symmetria> sup
[14:50] <Squirm> lo
[14:52] <Symmetria> squirm check this: http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/wildlife/monkey1.jpg (scaled down to a reasonable size just for you)
[14:53] <Symmetria> took that earlier while I was feeding the cute litlte bastard
[14:53] <Squirm> how kind of you
[14:53] <Squirm> it loaded instantly
[14:58] <Squirm> superfly_, Symmetria. how did you guys update your S3?
[14:58] <Squirm> lo Trixar_za
[14:58] <Trixar_za> lo Squirm
[15:00] <Symmetria> squirm, went to software update somewhere in settings I think?
[15:03] <Squirm> it can't connect to the update server
[15:03] <Squirm> i'm sitting on 4.0.4
[15:28] <inetpro> Cantide, Kilos, superfly_ (with tail and all): seems to me it is a vervet after all
[15:28] <Kilos> ah
[15:28] <inetpro> similar to the one in Symmetria's photo above
[15:28] <Kilos> did you see it now
[15:29] <inetpro> Kilos: no not yet
[15:29] <Kilos> eish thats a clever one
[15:29] <Kilos> knows the gardener isnt a threat
[15:29] <inetpro> but got much better description from the gardener and the neighbors gardener
[15:29] <Cantide> hey inetpro :)
[15:30] <Kilos> tomorrow hell be back
[15:30] <Cantide> judging by superfly_'s tail, it could be him 'o'
[15:36] <inetpro> Kilos: even on the neighbor's he has stolen about 5 chickens already
[15:37] <Kilos> wow
[15:37] <Kilos> you sure its only one
[15:37] <Kilos> send the neighbour for sleeping pills
[15:37] <Kilos> hehe
[15:37] <inetpro> good question, but I doubt there are more
[15:38] <Kilos> oh they dont live in tribes like those down near durbs
[15:38] <Kilos> those with the blue nuts
[15:39] <inetpro> what he does is he does his catching and takes the chicken up in the tree... have a photo of a chicken that he left behind high in one of my trees
[15:39] <Kilos> wow
[15:39] <Kilos> so he will eat dead ones too thatys good
[15:40] <inetpro> will see whether he comes back for this one
[15:42] <inetpro> Kilos: see https://www.dropbox.com/sc/50mxt6re5br6wap/Cp8ipwWVEG
[15:44] <inetpro> have some late mealies and he loves that as well
[15:44] <Kilos> swine
[15:44] <Kilos> they not gonna make it i think, winter too close
[15:44] <inetpro> in fact in one of those photos he has a nice hiding place where you can see the feathers on the ground
[15:44] <Kilos> that site took long to open
[15:45] <Kilos> my 8ta is bad
[15:45] <Kilos> grrr
[15:45] <inetpro> ai!
[15:45] <Kilos> fone again tomorrow
[15:48] <Kilos> never mind they can be sorted. just gotta find the CEO's mail addy
[15:48] <Kilos> you cant ask them on the fone they bang the waves come down from the top
[15:52] <Kilos> did you get your iso jmagunduni
[15:57] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:01] <Trixar_za> Yeah, me too
[16:01] <Trixar_za> I think it's the whole network
[16:02] <Kilos> ohi Trixar_za
[16:02] <Kilos> mine is terrible. luckily no large upgrades
[16:02] <Trixar_za> It loads websites slowly
[16:02] <Kilos> yeah terrible
[16:02] <Trixar_za> And stuff lag. IRC seems fine though
[16:03] <Trixar_za> Whatsapp cuts out every now and again
[16:03] <Kilos> yeah and mxit
[16:04] <inetpro> Kilos: you really need a modem with an antenna for a stable connection
[16:05] <Kilos> no man i can see the tower from here
[16:05] <Kilos> not even one k away
[16:05] <inetpro> ai!
[16:06] <Kilos> straight out my window from here i see the light on it now
[16:07] <inetpro> Kilos: have you tried moving your PC and phone to a different spot in the house?
[16:07] <inetpro> sjoe, you even have direct line of sight?
[16:07] <Kilos> fone shows full connection anywhere in the area
[16:07] <Kilos> yessir
[16:07] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:07] <Kilos> i see the red light on top
[16:08] <Kilos> its just the data thing thats sick
[16:08] <inetpro> maybe they moved the direction of the antenna on the tower
[16:08] <Kilos> they are omni drectional
[16:08] <inetpro> ai!
[16:08] <Kilos> arent they not directional
[16:08] <inetpro> guess it depends
[16:09] <Kilos> will just keep foning
[16:09] <inetpro> do it
[16:09] <Kilos> it was good so they cant blame anything else but their own equipment
[16:10] <Kilos> nm shows at times the signal drops to 1 bar then i get 1.6kB/s download speed
[16:10] <Kilos> grrr
[16:11] <Kilos> thats slower than gprs
[16:12] <Trixar_za> And for me it's slow if I use my 3G dongle or my phone
[16:13] <Trixar_za> So it's not so much the hardware as the service provider
[16:13] <Kilos> Trixar_za, inetpro see if you guys can find the CEO's mail addy
[16:13] <Kilos> ya its them
[16:14] <Kilos> his name is  Sipho Maseko the new Telkom CEO
[16:14] <Kilos> but i cant get a mail addy for him
[16:14] <Trixar_za> And he comes straight from Vodacom
[16:14] <Kilos> yip thats where our prob lies methinks
[16:15] <Kilos> one site with lotsa comments doesnt talk well of him
[16:16] <Kilos> maybe hes on twitter too
[16:16] <Kilos> Maaz, google Sipho Maseko on twitter
[16:16] <Maaz> Kilos: "Sipho Maseko (osmaseko) on Twitter" https://twitter.com/osmaseko :: "Twitter / mbulivuyo: Sipho Maseko's been appointed ..." https://twitter.com/mbulivuyo/status/318215316033372160 :: "Telkom Gets Ex-Vodacom South Africa Head Sipho Maseko as CEO ..."  That comes from http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/technology/2013/03/28/telkom-appoints-maseko-as-ceo
[17:12] <Kilos> hi superfly magespawn
[17:12] <superfly> hi Kilos
[17:14] <magespawn> evening Kilos  superfly
[17:14] <superfly> hi magespawn
[17:19] <Kilos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vervet_monkey
[17:20] <Kilos> haha inetpro start putting out booze for him and maybe you can catch him when he falls out the tree drunk
[17:23] <Kilos> im sure that the same type of monkey full up on the natal coast
[17:43] <Kilos> magespawn, whats news on the wgetting
[17:50] <magespawn> have not tried the iso yet, been a bit busy
[17:51] <Kilos> ah
[17:52] <magespawn> the network at the hotel is still not behaving properly
[17:54] <Kilos> ai!
[17:56] <magespawn> yup they have sent a guy from the head office, who is as stumped as me
[17:58] <Kilos> oh my. it must be fixable though
[18:02] <magespawn> i am sure it is, but we can't find what is causing the problem, so back in the trenches tomorrow
[18:03] <Kilos> take lotsa cable and replace one section at a time maybe
[18:09] <magespawn> we might end up doing that
[18:12] <Kilos> you have already kinda localised the bad area so it shouldnt be too much graft
[18:15] <magespawn> thats the thing, we are not really sure about anything
[18:19] <Kilos> oh my
[18:19] <Kilos> i thought the sections you disconnected were the prob ones
[18:28] <magespawn> the network loses it's internet connection every now and then, unplugging and replugging the router brings it back online
[18:29] <Kilos> oh not the same prob from months ago
[18:30] <magespawn> no but possibly related
[18:30] <magespawn> going to set up various pc to see if i can monitor the network
[18:30] <Kilos> you tried another router hey?
[18:31] <Kilos> i dont member so far back
[18:33] <magespawn> yup but al least one was fried by eskom/lightening, and another was definately faulty
[18:34] <Kilos> eish
[18:34] <Kilos> maybe the lines are cooked as well
[18:38] <Kilos> but that should only be from router out
[18:38] <Kilos> to the net
[18:38] <magespawn> might be an isp problem, but there is a big problem somewhere
[18:39] <Kilos> whew good luck
[18:44] <magespawn> i am sure we will get there
[18:45] <Kilos> yeah must be
[18:55] <magespawn> going to be fun finding it
[18:58] <Kilos> yeah
[18:58] <Kilos> learn lots
[19:01] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:07] <magespawn> anybody know about this http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/spyware-used-by-governments-poses-as-firefox-and-mozilla-is-angry/
[20:25] <magespawn> good night all
[21:51] <Guest7810> bbm pin 28888f44 plz invite me
[22:03] <superfly> ooo, that looks like it's ripte for spamming ;-)
[22:03] <superfly> *ripe


[09:30] <brainwash> please change the importance of bug 1328954 to "wishlist" (it's a feature request)
[11:18] <brainwash> Ampelbein: thanks, "low" is fine too I guess :)
[17:15] <brainwash> please unsubscribe the review team from bug 1270894
[17:15] <brainwash> the patch is not finished yet
[22:15] <brainwash> need to change the importance of 2 bugs. can anyone help?
[22:19] <penguin42> which ones?
[22:20] <penguin42> and please explain your reasoning on what to change them to
[22:21] <penguin42> which ones?
[22:35] <brainwash> penguin42: please unsubscribe the review team from bug 1270894
[22:35] <brainwash> the attached patch is not finished yet
[22:37] <penguin42> hmm, I don't know how to unsubscribe someone from a bug
[22:38] <penguin42> brainwash: Did you say you wanted some importances changed?
[22:38] <brainwash> oh, so only the ubuntu-reviewers can unsubscribe its team?
[22:39] <brainwash> yeah, I did.. but I better wait until I'll get accepted by bug-control
[22:40] <brainwash> no need to bother anyone with a bigger amount of reports
[22:40] <penguin42> I think only someone in ubuntu-reviewers can unsub
[22:41] <penguin42> I'm happy to change bug importance if you can justify why; it's not a normal thing to do that often
[22:43] <brainwash> nothing critical, but I'm dealing with a larger amount of reports, so getting into bug-control should be the next step
[22:43] <brainwash> otherwise I'll keep bothering people here =S
[22:43] <penguin42> have you applied?
[22:44] <brainwash> not yet, I need to write a fancy application first
[22:44] <brainwash> an re ubuntu-reviewers, I'll contact the team directly then
[22:45] <penguin42> it's not that fancy :-)
[22:46] <brainwash> well, it should be.. and detailed, otherwise I'll have to answer some follow up questions :)
[22:48] <brainwash> I was hoping that bug-squad would gain more privileges
[22:50] <penguin42> people just basically need to show that they understand and don't cause chaos while they're on bug squad and that lets people just check before they get bug-control
[22:53] <brainwash> makes sense


[18:04] <mup> Bug #1999557 opened: MAAS fails to startup when installed from deb package and vault is enabled <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 3.3:Triaged> <MAAS 3.4:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999557>
[21:52] <mup> Bug #1999579 opened: MAAS OpenAPI docs are not available in air-gapped mode <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999579>


[16:20] <nullkit> how i can change Launchpad Id?
[16:20] <Odd_Bloke> nullkit: You can do it from https://launchpad.net/~/+edit
[16:22] <nullkit> Odd_Bloke: thanks
[16:22] <Odd_Bloke> No problem!
[17:21] <axino> how can I create an MP to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~axino/+git/matterircd-jdstrand/+ref/axino into https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/+git/matterircd-jdstrand/+ref/master ? when I try, LP tells me that "lp:~axino/+git/matterircd-jdstrand is not mergeable into this repository"
[17:32] <pappacena> It seems that https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/+git/matterircd-jdstrand/+ref/master is not attached to a Launchpad project. Is it just a personal repository? If so, I think it's not possible to create a MP for that from another personal repository.
[17:32] <pappacena> You should ask to target repository owner to create a project linked to that repository. Then, you will be able to create a MP.
[17:38] <axino> pappacena: ok thanks
[18:42] <heewa> Hi! I just registered a launchpad account (heewa-b), but I really would love to recover my 12 year old, completely unused (no activity), account (heewa). There's no way I have my email address from back then (either my first job, or my uni email). Any way of recovering or getting that username?
[18:46] <pappacena> Hi, heewa . Since that old account doesn't have any activity, is it ok if I just deactivate it and free up the "heewa" username for you?
[18:47] <heewa> @pappacena, Sure, thanks!
[18:49] <pappacena> heewa: Done. You can now edit your profile and set your preferred username by visiting http://launchpad.net/~/+edit
[19:02] <axino> pappacena: note that LP did tell me the following when I pushed my changes
[19:02] <axino> remote: Create a merge proposal for 'axino' on Launchpad by visiting:
[19:02] <axino> remote:       https://code.launchpad.net/~axino/+git/matterircd-jdstrand/+ref/axino/+register-merge
[19:02] <axino> pappacena: perhaps this could only be displayed if it's attached to a project ?
[19:04] <pappacena> axino: It makes sense. The hint is not really valuable in this case. Do you mind opening a bug for that? https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug
[19:04] <axino> pappacena: I will
[19:05] <pappacena> This hint on git push is a quite recent feature. We still have room for improvement there.
[19:05] <pappacena> Thanks, axino !
[19:05] <axino> pappacena: indeed it is (and it's very good !)
[19:08] <pappacena> ah, axino . In fact, the MP link to create a MP has as "Target repository" your own lp:~axino/+git/matterircd-jdstrand repository, right?
[19:09] <axino> pappacena: yeah but I changed it to ~jdstrand
[19:10] <pappacena> I guess opening a MP to your own repository works out fine. Launchpad only blocks you from opening a MP if the source is a personal repository and a target is *another* personal repository (not linked to a project).
[19:13] <heewa> @pappacena, Renamed. Thanks for your help :)
[19:13] <pappacena> Welcome, heewa !
[19:15] <axino> pappacena: ah I see, alright then
[19:48] <kyrofa> Say I have two private PPAs: I have read access to PPA A, and write access to PPA B. Is that enough permission that I can request a sync from A to B?
[19:54] <pappacena> kyrofa: it should be enough.
[19:58] <kyrofa> I was a bit surprised that folks with read access can't visit the package details page, which made me worry
[19:58] <kyrofa> But it's not easy to test
[19:58] <kyrofa> Thanks for the info, pappacena
[20:00] <sarnold> I don't understand the "read access but not package details access" -- is there an easy-to-understand intuitive reason for that?
[20:01] <pappacena> You mean the "View package details" link on PPA's main page? Like this page: https://launchpad.net/~twom/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?
[20:01] <pappacena> I guess it's possible to see this page even if you are not logged in
[20:02] <pappacena> Ah, for private PPAs, right?
[20:02] <sarnold> oh is that the distinctin? yeah it probably was private ppas
[20:03] <pappacena> I'm not sure if there is a reason for that, actually. Maybe wgran tknows the history behind it...
[21:33] <kyrofa> sarnold, pappacena: yeah, private PPAs indeed
[21:33] <kyrofa> The ability to see that page for non-private PPAs while not logged in is one of the reasons I'm confused :P