[00:00] <zyrkan_> pfifo, k. I was just looking to see if there was any live support
[00:00] <Monotoko> Johnny_101, im on a differant PC
[00:00] <pfifo> zyrkan_, I bet #gimp could help tremendously
[00:00] <Beyecixramd> unop: who cares? it's UNIX... false or true... it's UNIX, for god's sake
[00:00] <avi_> Beyecixramd: well okay then. so is there any reason at all I shouldn't go ahead and dualboot my iMac?
[00:00] <zyrkan_> pfifo, thanks
[00:00] <Barridus> how do i start crond and then set it so it always starts?
[00:01] <Beyecixramd> avi_: hmmm... maybe there might be some software you might miss... apart from that... no, i highly encourage you to install it, in fact... it is an Intel Mac?
[00:01] <schlaftier> avi_: The installation is not totally straightforward, but I'd give it a try if you are not satisfied with OS X
[00:01] <unop> Beyecixramd, well, I disagree .. so I care
[00:01] <eye-zak> Monotoko: not sure what to do, afaik that was the necessary procedure, assuming i got the iptables commands correct
[00:01] <AnxiousNut> how can i adjust laptop's screen colors, the colors differs from my desktop's!
[00:01] <Beyecixramd> unop: :) so is Linux a true UNIX?
[00:01] <avi_> Beyecixramd: Yup. 2008 24'' imac.
[00:01] <Monotoko> eye-zak, it works! itl ping by IP but not by domain
[00:01] <avi_> schlaftier: I'm just curious, actually.
[00:02] <Johnny_101> Monotoko : http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/protocolsdhcp/g/bldef_apipa.htm
[00:02] <fluffy_> Beyecixramd: unix-like, not true UNIX though.
[00:02] <unop> Beyecixramd, off course not. no one's implying that.
[00:02] <Beyecixramd> avi_: go ahead then. Good thing about Macs is that their software is very uniform, so you will have lots of chances of getting solutions to your problems with other mates using Ubuntu on their Macs
[00:02] <eye-zak> Monotoko: ahh, you need to add dns entries to your non-wifi computer (use <IP_ADDRESS> =opendns)
[00:02] <schlaftier> avi_: Make backups and go dual-boot :)
[00:02] <Beyecixramd> unop: just asking, what about Minix?
[00:02] <sean___> what channels are good here
[00:02] <MACscr> ok, i like how in putty on windows i could simply click on highlighted text in ssh and it would paste it toe the command line. Any possible way to do that in terminal? Im lazy and dont like to copy and paste all the time =P
[00:02] <myrl> myrl.selfip.com
[00:02] <schlaftier> avi_: Keep an internet connection on another computer in case you run into trouble...!
[00:03] <fluffy_> MACscr: xterm does that by default iirc
[00:03] <Monotoko> eye-zak, ahhh i see, can i make the connection permenant first though?
[00:03] <avi_> Beyecixramd: That's great. Actually, I've been triple booting for about 4 months now. Been loving it. Just wanted to put my paranoia about the CPU thing aside. Cheers for the help mate!
[00:03]  * Monotoko does not want to lose the connection hes been trying to get to work for days
[00:03] <avi_> schlaftier: Actually, I've been triple booting for about 4 months now. Been loving it. Just wanted to put my paranoia about the CPU thing aside. Cheers for the help mate!
[00:03] <unop> Beyecixramd, that's a warped attempt at being unix-like :)
[00:04] <schlaftier> avi_: is the 3rd OS Windows?
[00:04] <Beyecixramd> no prob, avi_ :) i also was a little nervous about Linux the first time, expecting everything to work and such, it's quite common
[00:04] <eye-zak> Monotoko: hopefully... to make the sysctl permenant edit /etc/sysctl.conf and uncomment net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[00:04] <zcat[1]> minix, lol..
[00:04] <Beyecixramd> lol unop
[00:04] <avi_> schlaftier: I did OSX then bootcamp win7, then rEFIt, then Ubuntu
[00:04] <Mixxit> onetinman: think i am sorted now buddy, installed jockey-gtk and have a hardware and drivers menu in my gnome system panel now - it told me i'm not using any drivers and is doing it's thing so fingers crossed!
[00:04] <eye-zak> Monotoko: then you need to save your iptables setup, Does anyone know the best procedure for this?
[00:04] <schlaftier> avi_: just curious, did you get all the hardware running in Ubuntu?
[00:04] <avi_> Beyecixramd: Ditto. But it's worth it!!
[00:04] <schlaftier> avi_: I have only rEFIt+Ubuntu
[00:05] <Beyecixramd> unop: what about Mac OS X, BSD, and Linux. are they POSIX?
[00:05] <Beyecixramd> unop: or only true UNIXes are POSIX?
[00:05] <pfifo> eye-zak, I use a shell script to setup iptables, but there is a built in system for doing it as i remember, read the manual for iptables for more info
[00:05] <Beyecixramd> avi_: one last thing. Don't ever dare to remove Mac OS X
[00:05] <fluffy_> Beyecixramd: doesn't have to be UNIX to be POSIX compliant
[00:06] <Beyecixramd> avi_: keep at least the minium space for Mac OS X in order to get firmware updates
[00:06] <eye-zak> Monotoko: on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo there is a known bug with network-manager and iptables
[00:06] <gartral> eye-zak: alright, since pulse is broken, and the pulse-docs are of absolutly no help. what alternatives do i have for what i want to do?
[00:06] <Beyecixramd> fluffy_: then they are?
[00:06] <avi_> schlaftier: I've been trying all of the versions, 8.04-10.04. All of them failed mostly except for 10.04, which was absolutely phenominal. the free graphics drivers are perfect (fgrlx (ati drivers)) are UBER messed up on ubuntu for my box, there's three launch pad posts for it because the first two got full lol. So, yeah, everything but the remote, which i'm just too lazy to fix.
[00:06] <eye-zak> Monotoko: run iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules to save your config
[00:07] <fluffy_> Beyecixramd: generally if they have the usual core utils -- ls, cp, mv, etc -- its a fairly good bet it's POSIX
[00:07] <avi_> Beyecixramd: I don't plan on it, but what firmware updates? I mean, its 2 years old already, do you really think there will be a firmware update>
[00:07] <schlaftier> avi_: Remote was easy for me (recognised out of the box, I just had to write scripts for the key actions). What about screen brightness?
[00:07] <eye-zak> Monotoko: on that page there is info on how to edit /etc/network/interfaces to apply these rules automatically
[00:07] <Monotoko> eye-zak, i get Permission denied when running it as sudo??
[00:07] <Johnny_101> michelle_ : Any luck?
[00:08] <Beyecixramd> avi_: oh... in that case... well.... just don't do it. You might need it at some point, and it does not take a lot of space, unlike Windows :D
[00:08] <avi_> schlaftier: I'm the reverse, LIRC recognizes it, but i just don't know how to configure the custom keys lol
[00:08] <unop> Beyecixramd, POSIX is (or has become) just a reference standard -- and different OSes/Vendors adhere to it in different degrees - even Microsoft windows to some degree. But yea, those examples fully support the POSIX standards.
[00:08] <eye-zak> Monotoko: run sudo iptable-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables.rules
[00:08] <Beyecixramd> unop: afaik, Windows Vista / 7 has a POSIX subsystem, to run utilities designed for POSIX OSes
[00:08] <Monotoko> eye-zak, completed, thank you :)
[00:08] <avi_> eye-zak: Brightness was a nonissue. Oh, come to think of it, sound is awful with the inbuilt speakers.. Its the same in windows.  External speakers are 100%.
[00:08] <Beyecixramd> unop: it's like a compatibility layer for POSIX (like Wine)
[00:09] <eye-zak> Monotoko: your welcome
[00:09] <avi_> Beyecixramd: tell me about it, windows is down to like 5GB and Ubuntu has like 50GB left.. 55GB partitions each lol
[00:09] <Beyecixramd> avi_: wow... that's.... im speechless...
[00:10] <compaq> Guys I love Ubuntu, I had lots of fun, but I regret to say, I have reverted to Debian.  Why you ask?  Well, Ubuntu wouldn't support compiz on my intel graphics card(it was blacklisted) but on debian it was not.
[00:10] <Chaorain> I'm trying to follow this but the second step gives me an error http://www.thoughtspark.org/node/10
[00:10] <Chaorain> bash: !/bin/bash": event not found
[00:10] <Beyecixramd> compaq: use try Fedora, or unblacklist it :)
[00:10] <schlaftier> avi_: I have a very simple .lircrc calling irexec to control audio players and slideshows. If you are interested, I can give you a hand with that. For brightness, I had to use an ugly hack, though :)
[00:10] <Chaorain> Can someone tell me what this means?
[00:10] <soreau> compaq: That's probably because debian is using an older version of the intel driver
[00:10] <pfifo> compaq, Im sure you can install manually
[00:10] <avi_> schlaftier: If you don't mind, could you perhaps point me in the right direc... excellent!!
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> compaq: did you ever have a look at this? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Intel%208xx%20X%20freezes/crashes
[00:11] <unop> Beyecixramd, well, yea, it supports some of the POSIX base definitions and the system interfaces, so applications can take advantage of the POSIX API - but that's about it
[00:11] <pdtpatrick> @Chaorain -- u forgot to put the # infront of the !
[00:12] <avi_> schlaftier: I'm interested. Brightness was not an issue on any of the versions from hardy>lucid. ALl I need is for it to control rhythmbox, and maybe totem.. eye of gnome (or whatever the default imageviewer would be nice tho lol). How can I install it ?
[00:12] <greezmunkey> holy smokes, disabling ipv6 makes this thing rock :)
[00:12] <Opettaja> Anyone know if i need to do anything special to get ushare to work with an external hard drive?
[00:12] <unop> greezmunkey, only until the IPv4 space runs out -- then you're leaving yourself disadvantaged :)
[00:12] <compaq> onetinsoldier, oh, I never found that one
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> compaq: roger
[00:13] <sean___> greetings ubuntu noobs
[00:13] <compaq> Beyecixramd, I couldn't unblacklist it, I even tried karmic cause it gives you the option to run some command that allows you to use blacklisted video cards, but it still didn't run
[00:13] <schlaftier> avi_: There are plugins for at least Rhythmbox, but I prefer to just use irexec which can run any program upon a remote control key press. So make sure you have that installed and running
[00:13] <greezmunkey> unop: I think I have a while befor I have to worry about that, just don't go assigning an IP address to your toaster, o.k :)
[00:13] <Beyecixramd> compaq: weird...
[00:14] <avi_> schlaftier: Hold on, i'm in OSX now. can you wait 1.5 minutes for me to reboot to ubuntu?
[00:14] <schlaftier> avi_: sure
[00:14] <sean___> can you install ubuntu on a mac
[00:14] <gartral> i got a realtek HDA audio card, multiple spreakers and a headphone jack. how do i route stero audio through something OTHER that the green jack in the back of my computer
[00:14] <sean___> wait no
[00:14] <schlaftier> sean___: yes you can
[00:14] <gartral> sean___: depends on if it's a ppc mac or intel mac
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: hi. you'r internet bandwith a lot faster or something with ipv6 disabled?
[00:14] <sean___> can you run ubuntu livecd on a mac?
[00:15] <Chaorain> pdtpatrick: I tried it again and it had the # but same error
[00:15] <gartral> schlaftier: ubuntu no longer officialy supports ppc macs
[00:15] <Flannel> !ppc
[00:15] <gartral> sean___: as long as it's an intel mac
[00:15] <eye-zak> gartral: two sets of stereo speakers, or something else ?
[00:15] <Johnny_101> sean___ : why don't you give a try..its not going to harm anything..!
[00:15] <schlaftier> gartral: as time goes by :(
[00:15] <fluffy_> if you find yourself on a PPC mac, debian has a PPC port.
[00:15] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: yeah, I think so - I just started testing. Bandwidth may be about the same, but the "responsiveness" has improved considerably.
[00:15] <sean___> how do you boot into the livecd
[00:15] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: ahh, roger
[00:15] <gbear14275> vlt: I apologize for disappearing... are you still lurking?
[00:16] <vlt> !ask | gbear14275
[00:16] <gartral> eye-zak: stero speakers all over my house.. i want the same audio accross all 6 sets. and my headphones.. though i cant get any headway cause pulse is a confusing, unstable, unintuitive system
[00:16] <corin_> "It is recommended that your private key files are NOT accessible by others. This private key will be ignored."
[00:16] <corin_> ^ Is there any way to disable that message so that keys with bad permissions work fine?
[00:17] <Flannel> sean___: Depending on which mac you've got, you need to push something during boot (with the CD in), delete, f10, etc
[00:17] <Johnny_101> sean___ : Live CD..no need to install on the HDD.
[00:17] <gartral> sean___: put the cd in the drive and reboot while holding command+c
[00:17] <fluffy_> Flannel: that would be the c key :)
[00:17] <onetinsoldier> anyone need help getting any mouse x-cursor theme installed from a .tar.gz? i can help...  :-)
[00:17] <eye-zak> gartral: 6 sets, how many stereo-out pairs (not including headphones) do you want
[00:17] <pokeh> Okay, I'm back! Thanks for waiting mate.
[00:17] <gartral> eye-zak: 7
[00:17] <gartral> oh, 6
[00:18] <sean___> dude ubuntu doesnt work well with mac
[00:18] <gartral> someone ban the mac troll
[00:18] <pokeh> sean___: works fantastic with my mac lol
[00:18] <macman_> lol
[00:18] <gartral> pokeh: ignore sean___ he's being a troll
[00:18] <eye-zak> gartral: i'm confused, u have a sound card with 14 stereo outputs ?
[00:18] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: i dropped connection. can you tell me how disabling ipv6 made a difference and which line in /etc/default/grub did you add it to?
[00:19] <pokeh> gartral: Are we discouraged from feeding them :P
[00:19] <vlt> gartral: (Haven't read your initial question but) you could just use a decent audio mixer and wire your speakers.
[00:19] <pokeh> schlaftier: Hey!
[00:20] <schlaftier> pokeh: hey, are you the one with the Apple Remote?
[00:20] <eye-zak> gartral: pulseaudio can do stereo-duplex from SoundPreferences->Hardware tab (for more than duplex you need to edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf for yourself)
[00:20] <pokeh> schlaftier: Ah, i forgot I had different names. Yup, that's me!
[00:20] <Monotoko> eye-zak, sorry what does my gateway want to be again?
[00:21] <Monotoko> (on the non-wifi)
[00:21] <michelle_> how do i get permission to access dvdrom i do not have /etc/fstab/ file
[00:21] <gartral> eye-zak: no, it has 6 audio routes that arent locked to any state (each one is technically a quadraphonic passthrough) in windows, all i have to do is click a toggle and the input selected becomes an output. same with the other way. all i want is 6 outputs, and one input. all outputs following the SAME stero stream
[00:21] <eye-zak> Monotoko: on the non-wifi pc, your gateway is the ip of the wifi pc on the private network, <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:21] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: In testing, especially mail, web browsing, like establishing new connections goes noticably quicker - throughput is about the same, but connections are indeed snappier. in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="ipv6.disable=1"
[00:21] <unop> bastid_raZor, Dual-stack hosts must attempt connectivity over IPv6 before falling back on IPv6. So when you browse a website for example, an attempt is made to lookup the domain name for IPv6 first - and since most sites and carriers don't support it, that can mean a slowdown for you, the end-user.
[00:21] <schlaftier> pokeh: first thing you should do is run "irw" in the terminal and press the keys on your remote to find the key names, they might be different
[00:21] <Monotoko> eye-zak, thank you again :) il add it to the interfaces file on the PC so it sticks...
[00:22] <gartral> vlt: that would work if i had money for a mixer, and the extra wires
[00:22] <pokeh> schlaftier: Okay, it recognizes them!
[00:22] <eye-zak> gartral: ok, i haven't played with a card like that, but pulseaudio's daemon.conf can set the number of channels, and do channel mapping/duplication but i can't tell you exactly what to put in there
[00:22] <monjaraz> hi every
[00:22] <adam2508> whats up guys
[00:22] <pokeh> schlaftier: Pretty standard, FORWARD, ACTION, MENU, PLAY
[00:23] <sean___> whats up adam
[00:23] <pokeh> schlaftier: I have the newer aluminum one.
[00:23] <gartral> eye-zak: right.. what _alternatives_ do i have that offer a user-intuitive interface
[00:23] <eye-zak> gartral: the SoundPreferences way has ubuntu pre-made setups that are common, your's is uncommon so unfortunately it's not there yet
[00:23] <schlaftier> pokeh: different from mine so you will have to replace the button names but you get the idea :)
[00:23] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: I already disabled ipv6 in firefox, but noticed that it was always present for other processes. I decided to put the kabosh on it.
[00:23] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: unop good information. i actually use dnsmasq to cache dns' and i noticed that has given a faster response to previously visited sites.
[00:23] <adam2508> its been a while since i havent been in a irc
[00:23] <eye-zak> gartral: there really is no GUI for this, pulseaudio is pre 1.0 unfortunately
[00:23] <schlaftier> pokeh: now let's do a quick example: volume control
[00:24] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: absolutely, having a caching nameserver present helps.
[00:24] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: i am going to try your method as well. dinner time then i'll get back to you on my results.
[00:24] <schlaftier> pokeh: edit the file .lircrc in your home directory and put this into it: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FmQ8x15Y
[00:24] <gartral> eye-zak: what ALTERNATIVES do i have to pulseaudio then!
[00:24] <sean___> alsa
[00:25] <jmcantrell> anyone here use an Asus ULxxVT?
[00:25] <eye-zak> gartral: none, unfortunately, alsa is just removing pulseaudio
[00:25] <schlaftier> pokeh: (replace the button names if necessary)
[00:25] <elvis45261> ubuntu is less nice than gentoo
[00:25] <sean___> sure is
[00:25] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: just one thing, I used the "start up manager" program to edit grub2 - it put the same commands into two differant lines in /etc/default/grub - I asked in here for help, than decided on the edit I pasted here. It works well
[00:25] <schlaftier> pokeh: save the file, then run "irexec -d" in the terminal and you should be able to adjust volume with the remote
[00:25] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : why :)
[00:25] <Chaorain> hey for some reason my comp always start with Compiz. How can I change this to Metacity?
[00:26] <pfifo> !offtopic > elvis
[00:26] <gartral> eye-zak: what your telling me is: the only sound core in linux is pulse audio. how is that possible in an opensource environment
[00:26] <pfifo> !offtopic > elvis45261
[00:26] <pokeh> schlaftier: I don't see a .lircrc file in my home directory
[00:26] <soreau> Chaorain: sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects>none
[00:26] <eye-zak> gartral: there is alsa, oss(not supported in ubuntu), pulseaudio and jack
[00:26] <elvis45261> eye-zak: Is oss good ?
[00:26] <sean___> which is the best
[00:26] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: i'm trying to get the graphics card to work. is the graphics switching capabilities supported?
[00:26] <schlaftier> pokeh: It's probably hidden or not yet there, you might need to create it
[00:27] <Chaorain> soreau: thanks
[00:27] <eye-zak> elvis45261: oss has been redone since the old (read bad) version and it works, as much as alsa works
[00:27] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport.
[00:28] <Guest6820> Hi, does any one know hot  figure out what were the last packages updated
[00:28] <allterspace> Does anyone know how to get rid of the default gnome keyring login at startup on 10.04?
[00:29] <R0x0Rz> Barbiie :$
[00:29] <Barbiie> R0x0Rz $:
[00:29] <pfifo> allterspace, i think if you set the keyring password as blank it will skip it
[00:29] <macman_> didn't work
[00:29] <eye-zak> alterspace: do you want automatic kering unlock, or no keyring unlock
[00:29] <pcgeek32147> how do i look up my chipset
[00:29] <pokeh> schlaftier: Fantastic! It's working! However, it doesn't change show that nice osd-notify bubble when it changes the sound.
[00:29] <gartral> eye-zak: and which of those would allow me to do what i want? im very sick and tired of hitting walls in ubuntu, an "open environment" that just arent there in windows. why is it impossible to reach an end result in ubuntu that takes less that 5 minutes in windows
[00:29] <allterspace> pfifo i dont know how to get there to do it can you help?\
[00:30] <schlaftier> pokeh: That's odd, it does for me. That can be easily fixed though ;)
[00:30] <pokeh>  schlaftier: Cool!! How? :D
[00:30] <eye-zak> gartral: i can't speak to overarching questions, pulse will do it but if you can't read the wiki and edit a config file than it's not gonna happen for you
[00:30] <limikael> hello
[00:30] <Johnny_101> pcgeek32147 :  hwinfo
[00:30] <Andorin> What are the odds that a generic USB flash drive with a standard file system will fail to mount?
[00:30] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: yeah, that doesn't really help
[00:30] <topo_> HI, does anyone know how to tell what were the last packages updated???
[00:31] <Andorin> Let me rephrase that.
[00:31] <limikael> how can I change what permissions usb drives get mounted with (fat32)
[00:31] <Andorin> What are the odds that a generic USB flash drive with a standard file system will fail to mount when you plug it in?
[00:31] <gartral> eye-zak: ive been reading the wiki. i dont see squat about routing monitors.
[00:31] <sean___> small
[00:31] <gartral> !troll | sean___
[00:31] <pfifo> allterspace, i havent used 10.04 yet so i cant be too specific, but in the preferences for the keyring you should find options relatedc to what your looking todo
[00:31] <bazhang> gartral, what was that for
[00:32] <eye-zak> gartral: i'm not sure exactly where to look, 'om glancing at the wiki now
[00:32] <sean___> !troll | gartral
[00:32] <sean___> haha owned.
[00:32] <Andorin> ...
[00:32] <fluffy_> Andorin: which fs?
[00:32] <bazhang> sean___,  and gartral stop it now
[00:32] <schlaftier> pokeh: Actually, it's not so easy, but it can be achieved using "notify-send". Try in the terminal for a quick test: notify-send Volume -i notification-audio-volume-high -h int:value:80 -h string:synchronous:
[00:33] <gartral> bazhang: sean___ started by asking the question "does ubuntu work on mac" 3 times and getting an answer too each
[00:33] <Andorin> fluffy_: Wish I could tell you.  I don't believe he wants the problem solved; I just wonder whether he's BSing me. But apparently the drive works in Windows, so I'd guess FAT or ntfs.
[00:33] <allterspace> yah they removed keyring from preferences thanks any ways.
[00:33] <jedc> Hi, I just installed lucid and my laptop speakers don't mute when I plug in my head-phones. I checked alsamixer but it only shows master and pcm controls. Any ideas?
[00:33] <jmcantrell> anyone here use an Asus ULxxVT?
[00:33] <schlaftier> pokeh: if that shows a bubble, you have the tools you need
[00:34] <bazhang> jmcantrell, please ask a more specific question if you wish help
[00:34] <Bigshot> how to know my computers name?
[00:34] <Bigshot> for synergy?
[00:34] <jmcantrell> anyone here use an Asus ULxxVT and know how to get the nvidia card to work?
[00:35] <fluffy_> Andorin: hmm. if it's not automounting on a default ubuntu setup -- and I'm assuming he's coming from Windows -- then something's probably messed with the filesystem. Has he tried mounting it manually? (as in mount -t vfat /dev/sdaX /media/X)
[00:35] <bazhang> jmcantrell, check system administration hardware drivers
[00:35] <schlaftier> pokeh: you could then use a script like this http://pastebin.com/zcmMc8i8 and bind the keys to that instead of directly calling amixer
[00:35] <fluffy_> Bigshot: hostname (in terminal)
[00:35] <PurpleJesus> since I upgraded to 10.4 my mouse likes to freeze.  doing a modprobe -r psmouse then a modprobe psmouse fixes it 80% of the time.  Is there a permanent fix?
[00:35] <Andorin> fluffy_: He hasn't, he's a noob to Ubuntu. But he's booting into it now.
[00:35] <bread> tell him to install gnome-mount for his flash drive problems
[00:35] <sabat> I am attempting to setup a JBOD raid on 4 500gb hd's. I installed lvm2, but not really sure how to begin and not finding any howto that is simple, anyone able to point me or tell me how to get this going?
[00:35] <topo_> Anyone knows how to enable file sharing with xp in Lucid lynx?
[00:35] <jmcantrell> bazhang: i've installed the recommended proprietary drivers, but it just boots to black.
[00:36] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: after using start-up manager.. which lines did it edit? or does start-up manager even edit but apply them from somewhere else?
[00:36] <bazhang> jmcantrell, how many choices are there
[00:36] <fluffy_> topo_: look into samba (google is your friend)
[00:36] <eye-zak> topo_: properties on your folder, then sharing
[00:36] <jmcantrell> bazhang: i don't know anymore. i can't boot
[00:36] <schlaftier> pokeh: or, maybe easier, use "xte" to fake the keyboard volume keys (they should trigger the notification bubble)
[00:36] <bazhang> jmcantrell, boot in low graphics mode and check
[00:36] <pokeh> schlaftier: Yup, i had to install libnotify-bin, but it works!
[00:36] <schlaftier> pokeh: it's now more a matter of shell scripting
[00:37] <jmcantrell> bazhang: how do i do that?
[00:37] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : Visual Effects is set to which mode?
[00:37] <pokeh> schlaftier: So, how do reccomend I proceed?
[00:37] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: the default
[00:37] <bazhang> jmcantrell, what version of ubuntu? try holding shift key as it starts up and enter recovery mode
[00:38] <topo_> fluffy_: yeah i looked, maybe i should be more specific. when i click in all networks the only machine that shows is my ubuntu machine
[00:38] <jmcantrell> bazhang: tried that. it never goes to grub menu
[00:38] <schlaftier> pokeh: about the notification bubbles or other buttons?
[00:38] <fluffy_> topo_: is it a new xp install?
[00:38] <pokeh> schlaftier: Both :D
[00:38] <bazhang> jmcantrell, is this a dual boot
[00:38] <pokeh> schlaftier: I think that using the xte thing will be best, because I don't use those volume button keys for anything else.
[00:39] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : Try  normal ; with auto load driver..
[00:39] <pokeh> schlaftier: Plus ubuntu recognises them.
[00:39] <schlaftier> pokeh: Do they trigger the notification bubbles?
[00:39] <pokeh> schlaftier: Yes.
[00:39] <Bigshot> hello feckers :))
[00:39] <Bigshot> oops
[00:39] <jedc> My laptop speakers won't mute when headphones are plugged in and I can't find controls to mute them manually without also muting the headphones. This is on a fresh 10.04 install?
[00:39] <Bigshot> nvm
[00:39] <topo_> nope its the same configuration i had, when i was running 9.04 and every thing worked
[00:39] <skypce> hi i am looking for a easy guide to compile kernel in ubuntu 10.04 ? thank s
[00:39] <acicula> !kernel
[00:39] <jmcantrell> bazhang: no dual boot
[00:39] <compaq> Actually, the intel drivers do not work so good with compiz.  Its unusable on debian too
[00:39] <bazhang> !compile > skypce
[00:39] <gartral> how do i split a command from the terminal it orginated from and make it a daemon?
[00:40] <sabat> I am attempting to setup a JBOD raid on 4 500gb hd's. I installed lvm2, but not really sure how to begin and not finding any howto that is simple, anyone able to point me or tell me how to get this going?
[00:40] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: it is on normal, but i can't boot anyway
[00:40] <topo_> fluffy_:nope its the same configuration i had, when i was running 9.04 and every thing worked
[00:40] <skypce> thank you
[00:40] <nighmi> evening, I've got a problem with some applications using a GtkFileChooser, e.g. gpicview, on a Ubuntu 64bit system - and I've been discussing this in the gtk+ IRC channel for a couple of hours now, and I'd like to know whether this is reproducable on a Ubuntu 64bit system: When I open gpicview and clicke the file-open-button, I click my home folder (in the "places" thingy) in the upcoming dialog, then I single-click the topmost directory in my h
[00:40] <nighmi> ome folder and then I start typing, e.g "abc" in order to quickly get to directory "abcdef" and I close the dialog (either by opening a file or by canceling), then I will press a random key while the main window is active, the program will crash with a segfault
[00:40] <schlaftier> pokeh: this should do the trick: xte 'key XF86AudioRaiseVolume'
[00:40] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: i too agree that the speed up is very noticable.
[00:40] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : After Normal ; you can't boot into the login screen!
[00:41] <fluffy_> topo_: does /var/log/samba/samba.log suggest any problems?
[00:41] <vlt> sabat: I'd favor using md instead of lvm for raid
[00:41] <schlaftier> pokeh: put this into the .lircrc (the other is XF86AudioLowerVolume)
[00:41] <sabat> vlt: I don
[00:41] <sabat> vlt: I don't know the difference, and really don't care too much what I use, I don't need redundancy or speed, just a large disk.
[00:42] <topo_> fluffy_: how do i check that?
[00:42] <gogeta> hey guys will the live cd work with 192 mb of ram
[00:42] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: i can't boot to login screen, correct, but i don't think it has anything to do with my graphics setting
[00:42] <schlaftier> pokeh: you probably have to restart irexec after editing the .lircrc (and at some point you should add it to your session startup items)
[00:42] <limikael> how can I change what dmask a usb disk gets mounted with?
[00:42] <Andorin> fluffy_: He's on Ubuntu, I'm having him run a manual mounting
[00:42] <pokeh> schlaftier: So where exactly do i put that in the lircrc file?
[00:42] <jjnorth> Wondering if anyone here has experience fixing GRUB.
[00:42] <vlt> sabat: Just a large "disk" aka block device? Then go for lvm
[00:42] <fluffy_> topo_: open up your /var/log/samba/samba.log in something like gedit
[00:42] <ikonia> just ask the real question
[00:42] <vlt> sabat: It's easy
[00:42] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: heh, I jsut caught that, great :)
[00:42] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : Yes ; its the graphics..
[00:42] <Andorin> !grub | jjnorth
[00:42] <schlaftier> pokeh: in the 'config =' line instead of 'amixer...' you put: xte 'key XF86AudioRaiseVolume'
[00:42] <jmcantrell> anyone know how to get the nvidia driver to work with the g210m?
[00:43] <sabat> vlt: ya, I have 4 hdd's, and just want one big disk
[00:43] <jmcantrell> Johnny_101: yeah, but it has nothing to do with compiz. it doesn't even get that far
[00:43] <jjnorth> !grub2
[00:43] <zyrkan_> leave
[00:43] <Johnny_101> jmcantrell : what the Resolution you set?
[00:43] <Spunkym3nkey> Hello, when I try to make a copy of one of my cds I get this error on Brasero --> Please install the following manually and try again:
[00:43] <Spunkym3nkey> libdvdcss.so.2 (library).
[00:43] <vlt> sabat: You need to create physical volumes (PV) as source devices for your volume group (VG). Then you can create as many logical volumes (LV) in one VG as you like.
[00:44] <Barridus> apparently crond is not starting, how do i make it so it does
[00:44] <eye-zak> Spunkym3nkey: have you installed dvdcss from the medibuntu repository ?
[00:44] <topo_> fluffy_: the file shows up empty
[00:44] <fluffy_> Spunkym3nkey: libdvdcss is used to decrypt DVDs
[00:44] <vlt> sabat: Do you want to boot from that device or just use it as additional storage?
[00:44] <Andorin> fluffy_: I don't know how to do a manual mounting. >_< You gave me a command, and I told him to mount it to /media/flashdrive, but he gets a response saying the mount point does not exist.
[00:45] <Spunkym3nkey> I got libdvdcss installed with media
[00:45] <Flannel> sabat: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lvm/  Explains (with pictures!) the basics of LVM (ignore the commands about setting up and stuff, that isn't relevant, but the overview is)
[00:45] <fluffy_> Andorin: the mountpoint has to be a directory that already exists.
[00:45] <Spunkym3nkey> should i restart?
[00:45] <michelle_> how can i manually find and install proper drivers for my dvd
[00:45] <michelle_> how do i get permission to access dvdrom i do not have /etc/fstab/ file
[00:45] <sabat> I have a 250gb drive as my main drive.
[00:45] <cryptic0> on my friend's dell inspiron E1505 laptop, the wireless is not working under ubuntu 9.04.  what gives?
[00:45] <jjnorth> Andorin: Thanks... so far, I've been jammed up with Grub2 not storing configs after an upgrade from Karmic to Lucid.
[00:45] <fluffy_> topo_: my hunch is that samba isn't started
[00:45] <eye-zak> Spunkym3nkey: no need
[00:45] <jjnorth> Andorin: Will see what happens.
[00:45] <vlt> !who | sabat
[00:45] <sean___> cryptic0: why
[00:45] <tux414> I have a gamepad this model GPTL-00A and it isn't working on Ubuntu 10.04.
[00:45] <gbear14275> anyone want to do me a favor and try and ssh into <IP_ADDRESS>.  It's my IP and I just want to make sure ssh is correctly refusing everything but keyed connections
[00:46] <sean___> !tab
[00:46] <vlt> sabat: So just storage, right?
[00:46] <bastid_raZor> greezmunkey: time to add it to my other boxes now.
[00:46] <topo_> fluffy_: I do get a response if I run smbtree but it only shows the local shares
[00:46] <acicula> gbear14275, you can test that by moving your private key out of .ssh, it will deafult back to password then
[00:46] <greezmunkey> bastid_raZor: yup, me too.
[00:46] <eye-zak> gbear14275: i got nothin
[00:46] <cryptic0> sean___: what do you mean?
[00:46] <Spunkym3nkey> fluffy_, should I be using vdr-plugin-dvd for playback?
[00:46] <gbear14275> acicula: I've done that... was just looking for a double check.  eye-zak:  Thanks
[00:46] <pokeh> schlaftier: Okay, i did irexec -d, but it's not applying the changes. I confirmed this by erasing the contents of lircrc, and then doing -d, but it still modifies the volume as before..
[00:46] <sean___> cryptic0: why doesnt it work
[00:47] <cryptic0> thats what I am asking :D.
[00:47] <schlaftier> pokeh: killall irexec && irexec -d
[00:47] <Andorin> fluffy_: Think it might be an ntfs file system, because he got an error.
[00:47] <cryptic0> I think it's a broadcom chip and I am surprised that ubuntu doesn't have drivers for it
[00:47] <sabat> vltL: linux is already installed and workingon the 250gb, and I used to have a 500gb drive as my "storage" drive, but I have filled it, so I removed it. I put in 4 500gb drives. now I just need to create the large volume out of the 4. I am not new to mounting/formatting/and so on, just not sure how to actually make a jbod from scratch.
[00:47] <schlaftier> pokeh: this will quit the first instance of irexec and start a new one
[00:48] <fluffy_> topo_: unfortunately my samba experience isn't great. could be one of many things -- firewall, bad network config, someting up with your smb.conf :p
[00:48] <sean___> cryptic0: try 9.10?
[00:48] <vlt> sabat: It's not neccessary but I'd recommend creating one partition per disk marked "8E" (lvm).
[00:48] <acicula> sabat have you installed all the updates?
[00:49] <Flannel> sabat: What you'll do is format those drives as 'lvm', those become PVs (Physical Volumes) then you use vgcreate to create a volume group (VG) out of all of those drives, then you have "one big drive" you can create LVs (Logical Volumes) on, which are akin to regular partitions
[00:49] <Barridus> nothing i can find on google about the crond service makes any sense, can anyone assist?
[00:49] <eye-zak> cryptic0: what broadcom chip is it ?
[00:49] <vlt> sabat: Then create the PVs: `pvcreate /dev/sdx1` for each disk
[00:49] <pcgeek32147> how do i know what video card i have
[00:49] <jjnorth> Andorin: upgrade-from-grub-legacy insists on using /dev/sdb (which is my root mirror) over /dev/sda.
[00:49] <acicula> err i mean cryptic0
[00:49] <pokeh> schlaftier: Okay, that did restart it, but now its not changing it at all. The line I changed is: "config = xte 'key XF86AudioRaiseVolume'"
[00:49] <jjnorth> Andorin: Any way to correct this?
[00:49] <sabat> acicula: yes, I have all the updates installed.
[00:49] <eye-zak> pcgeek32147: lshw or lspci
[00:49] <fluffy_> Spunkym3nkey: libdvdcss should work fine, vdr-plugin-dvd is... well, a plugin for a different prog
[00:49] <Andorin> jjnorth: I don't know :S
[00:49] <pokeh> schlaftier: perhaps my keymap is different?
[00:49] <aprilhare> hey
[00:49] <fluffy_> Andorin: try mount -t ntfs-3g instead
[00:49] <jjnorth> Andorin: lol, well, I'll try it anyways.
[00:49] <cryptic0> acicula: it's a pretty recent version of ubuntu, I highly doubt upgrade would make a difference
[00:49] <sean___> ubuntu is not for noobs
[00:49] <topo_> fluffy_: thanks any way ill keep looking, Do you have it working? if so, could you paste bin you smb.conf?
[00:50] <aprilhare> can you 'grow' ext3 or ext4 partitions?
[00:50] <sabat> vlt: so, on each drive, create a type 8e partition spanning the whole disk, going to do that now.
[00:50] <schlaftier> pokeh: maybe, but I doubt that: Does this work when you run it in a terminal: xte 'key XF86AudioRaiseVolume'
[00:50] <sean___> sure aprilbare
[00:50] <acicula> cryptic0, i dont mean upgrade, i mean update after install
[00:50] <vlt> sabat: Then create a VG and add the PVs: `vgcreate <name> /dev/sd{w,x,y,z}1`
[00:50] <Andorin> fluffy_: Running now
[00:50] <acicula> cryptic0, broadcom uses some proprietary stuff thats probably not on the installation disc?
[00:50] <aprilhare> sean___, that sounds handy - the same way you can make a ntfs or fat filesystem larger?
[00:50] <fluffy_> topo_: mine's autogenerated -- but ok :)
[00:50] <sean___> yeah should work
[00:50] <pokeh> schlaftier: I confirmed the keymap is the same. When running the command in terminal, i discoverd that xte isn't installed! :)
[00:50] <jjnorth> sean: Was that crack aimed at me?
[00:51] <sabat> vlt it's /dev/sda = 250gb, /dev/sdb,c,d,e are teh 500gb.
[00:51] <vlt> sabat: Then create an LV in that group: `lvcreate <group name> -n <lv name> -l 100%FREE`. done
[00:51] <Andorin> fluffy_: I had him run: " sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /home/username/Desktop " and he gets errors.
[00:51] <Johnny_101> pcgeek32147 : System...Administration..Hardware Drivers!
[00:51] <jmonreal> Hi all
[00:51] <jmonreal> Ive been using ubuntu for a while
[00:51] <pokeh> schlaftier: WOOOT! I installed and did everything, now it works 100% with osdnotify! Excellent!
[00:51] <schlaftier> pokeh: ah, sure, that's not installed by default. By the way, if you run irexec without "-d" it will not run in the background but report this kind of errors
[00:51] <vlt> sabat: You have a new 2TB sized block device in /dev/mapper/vg_name-lv_name
[00:51] <schlaftier> pokeh: you're welcome
[00:52] <jmonreal> and i have just installed 10.04 on 2 laptops
[00:52] <sean___> jjnorth: sure if youre a noob
[00:52] <jmonreal> one without any problem
[00:52] <Flannel> sean___: Please stop that.
[00:52] <fluffy_> topo_: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mVGZbSY8
[00:52] <jmonreal> but the other after making a safe-upgrade
[00:52] <fluffy_> Andorin: what errors do you get?
[00:52] <bazhang> sean___, that language is not acceptable here. Last warning.
[00:52] <jjnorth> sean: Thanks for the helpful reply.
[00:52] <jmonreal> grub stop working normaly
[00:52] <pokeh> schlaftier: So now, my hero, can we try and get Rythmbox integration working?
[00:52] <jmonreal> when I reboot i get a prompt with grub>
[00:52] <schlaftier> pokeh: for Rhythmbox, you could use: rhythmbox-client --next (or --previous)
[00:52] <jmonreal> can anyone help me?
[00:53] <asw3> cannot access .gvfs: Transport endpoint is not connected
[00:53] <asw3> what can i do?
[00:53] <schlaftier> pokeh: and of course --play-pause
[00:53] <usr13> jmonreal: Say what you have to say.  Don't scatter it all over, or no one will be albe to figure out what you are trying to say.
[00:53] <jjnorth> I suppose my last real resort here is hand-editing grub.cfg... is there any way to avoid that?
[00:53] <eye-zak> jmonreal: run the live cd, grub is having issues finding your boot drive
[00:53] <schlaftier> pokeh: just copy a block in your .lircrc and fill in the button name and command
[00:53] <asw3> i can get access to ".gvfs"
[00:53] <asw3> ?
[00:53] <bazhang> jjnorth, you never edit that file; check the grub2 wiki
[00:54] <eye-zak> jmonreal: from the live cd / rescue terminal you can chroot into your new installation and run update-grub to fix it
[00:54] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok, but after running the live cd what should i do? chroot to the partition where linux is installed and do grub-install?
[00:54] <jjnorth> bazhang: All I'm getting are circular references to commands that return the wrong partition for my boot system.
[00:54] <eye-zak> jjnorth: see /etc/grub.d/*
[00:54] <pokeh> schlaftier: Yup, figured that part out :D Working on it now. Will report back in a sec once i get this set up.. :D
[00:54] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok, so update-grub
[00:54] <jmonreal> thanks
[00:54] <Typos_King> jmonreal:   I"d say yes
[00:54] <eye-zak> jmontreal: if you are running live from usb, there may be issues though
[00:55] <jmonreal> eye-zak: so, why this things happen?
[00:55] <Andorin> fluffy_: http://pastebin.com/dxMmfNGb
[00:55] <MACscr> lol, why is /proc/cpuinfo only showing 1ghz when i have a 3.1ghz cpu?
[00:55] <yosi1234> vet & dancek, are u there?    I tried out webmin and love it!!
[00:55] <gbear14275> do I need to add something to my /etc/rc.local file if I just brought up my second NIC?  I'm following this howto but am not sure if it still applies (http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch03_:_Linux_Networking)
[00:55] <fluffy_> MACscr: read up on SpeedStep
[00:55] <yosi1234> since this morning form hating ubuntu server, webmin made me love it, its so easy to use with that interface!
[00:55] <schlaftier> pokeh: also, if you don't like that Rhythmbox starts when you press a key while it isn't running, add --no-start
[00:56] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I checked those scripts, even update-grub outputs /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sda1.
[00:56] <eye-zak> jmontreal: the grub.cfg generation code is not as good as it should be, so resources (not kernels or initrds) can be loaded by (hdA,B) instead of the new method using search for uuid
[00:56] <usr13> gbear14275: What are you trhing to do?
[00:56] <MACscr> fluffy_: i have a amd x2 6000+ desktop, its definitely not speedstep =P
[00:56] <sabat> vlt: ok, step one complete, I have 4 500gb type 8e partitions now... so now I run lvm and use vgcreate on each one?
[00:56] <fluffy_> Andorin: try using /dev/sdb1
[00:56] <yosi1234> Anyone her using Ubuntu server on VMWARE ESXi?   is there a performance hit with that?
[00:56] <fluffy_> MACscr: Ah, ok, selfpwned for assuming intel then lol
[00:56] <gbear14275> usr13: I'm trying to setup a 2 nic headless server with one nic facing inside our lan and one public facing
[00:56] <ikonia> yosi1234: depends on your host
[00:56] <eye-zak> jmontreal: you can edit by hand for the 1st boot and then run update-grub from the real system to fix perminant
[00:57] <gbear14275> usr13: I just rebooted to check if it will persist
[00:57] <avadakedevra> need help
[00:57] <yosi1234> host is a simple Xenon 3440 chip single processor with a huge storage array on a EMC san
[00:57] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Edit where, 10-linux?
[00:57] <jmcantrell> anyone here use an Asus ULxxVT and know how to get the nvidia card to work?
[00:57] <bazhang> avadakedevra, then ask a question, all on one line
[00:57] <yosi1234> 8gb ram
[00:57] <sabat> vlt: I think I said that wrong, but I think I get it.
[00:57] <ikonia> yosi1234: how it performs is nothing to do with ubuntu, but how you setup and manage your virtual host
[00:57] <eye-zak> jmontreal: in grub.cfg there are set root='(hdX,Y)' lines that should not be there, noone looked at them so we have issues
[00:57] <CR3AL> Anyone know how i can list channels using Irssi so that i can page through?
[00:58] <jmonreal> eye-zak: what do you mean edit by hadn? that i should put the exact partition where is installed?
[00:58] <eye-zak> jjnorth: sorry, what exactly was your end goal ?
[00:58] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Looks like jmonreal's goal, to be honest.
[00:58] <fluffy_> MACscr: ok since we're talking AMD do you have cool n quiet enabled in bios?
[00:58] <avadakedevra> my gnome boot process has slowed down like hell recently.cant figure out
[00:58] <eye-zak> jmonreal: in grub.cfg, there are sections like set root='(hd0,3)'
[00:58] <Andorin> fluffy_: Apparently it's mounted now. But what can we do about automounting?
[00:58] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Every command I issue tries to boot the system from /dev/sdb1, when the system is on /dev/sda1.
[00:58] <yosi1234> ikonia: will vmware add latency to the webserving (running lamp on it)
[00:58] <sabat> vlt: Thanks for your help, I may not entirely have it yet, but I am miles closer to getting it now.
[00:58] <MACscr> fluffy_: and its definitely not the bios doing it, so i need to figure out why ubuntu is doing it. No, coolnquiet is off
[00:58] <gbear14275> usr13: it did now
[00:59] <gbear14275> not
[00:59] <gbear14275> *
[00:59] <usr13> gbear14275: If you are wanting to set static IP's for your nics, you should simply edit /etc/network/interfaces
[00:59] <ikonia> yosi1234: as I've said it depends on how you setup and manage your virtual host, it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[00:59] <gbear14275> usr13: ok I'll do that
[00:59] <juanffx> Hi guys, someone knows why the sound sometimes doesnt start in 10.04 at boot and have to reboot (useless most of the time) to work with the VIA-VT1720 soundcard?
[00:59] <pokeh> schlaftier: AWESOME! Play/pause, forward, and backward all work! I actually like rythmbox starting when I press those, as that's the default action in OSX that i've been accustomed to. One thing though, pressing forward/back for anything more than a split-second results in skipping two or more tracks. Is there a way to fix that, so it only changes on the button release perhaps? Maybe repeat=0? Thanks for your patience man. I'm 14 and trying
[00:59] <jmonreal> eye-zak: i see them
[00:59] <usr13> gbear14275: You can place commands in /etc/rc.local and that will work too.. but it is better to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces
[01:00] <schlaftier> pokeh: you guessed it, repeat = 0
[01:00] <avadakedevra> how to speed up gnome boot
[01:00] <jmonreal> eye-zak: i should delete them?
[01:00] <schlaftier> pokeh: you're very much welcome
[01:00] <jjnorth> eye-zak: It's a bit confusing, tbh, because Grub... as near as I can tell... is looking for its configuration on hd0,1 (swap), and the config file would try to boot from my backup drive, were it accessible.
[01:00] <eye-zak> jmonreal: no, replace them
[01:00] <gbear14275> usr13: thanks... I don't know how old this howto is and looks to be fedora/redhat focused so yeah advice like that helps!  thanks
[01:00] <jmonreal> eye-zak: for what?
[01:00] <vlt> sabat: I wrote every single step. What did you miss?
[01:00] <usr13> gbear14275: Yes, it is for fedira/redhat not Ubuntu
[01:00] <fluffy_> Andorin: what version of ubuntu?
[01:01] <MACscr> fluffy_: im thinking in need to check out cpufreq in lucid, but im not sure how to get to it
[01:01] <Andorin> fluffy_: 32-bit Lucid.
[01:01] <toxic> could someone help me configure iptables to have every outgoing connection on a choosen port go through a specific interface (now, everything OUTgoing goes to eth1, I'd like port 80 OUTgoing to use wlan0... but only port 80...) (using ubuntu-server)
[01:01] <eye-zak> jmonreal: gimme a sec to lookup something
[01:01] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok, thanks
[01:01] <usr13> gbear14275: First, see    man interfaces
[01:01] <Typos_King> !fw | toxic
[01:01] <usr13> gbear14275: .... for instructions as to how to properly edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:01] <avadakedevra> how to speed up gnome boot
[01:01] <pokeh> schlaftier: Excellent!!! Thanks for all your help man, I really appreciate it!
[01:01] <Typos_King> !firewall | toxic
[01:02] <greezmunkey> MACscr: chec this out: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -e "cpu" -e "model" - in a terminal
[01:02] <MACscr> fluffy_: nevermind, found just added it to a panel
[01:02] <eye-zak> jmonreal, jjnorth: testing in grub in VM
[01:02] <toxic> Typos_King, i looked at iptables carefully...
[01:02] <toxic> Typos_King, I found no way to specify the outgoing interface...
[01:02] <usr13> gbear14275: And make sure to take your time and get it right, because you'll loose connection to your lan if you get it wrong.
[01:02] <MACscr> im not a big fan of "ondemand" cpu throttling, etc
[01:03] <yosi1234> Setting up my first Ubuntu LAMP Server - is it fairly secure from the default install, or ar there some recommended steps to secure the box
[01:03] <Goatee> hey, I kinda went too far with making nautilus looking good and hid the menubar - in fact all bars. xD is there a way to redo it? because I wanted to change the background-image of nautilus and can't get to the "edit" menu. ^^
[01:03] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I think I'll just hand-code it to start.  It's a bit ridiculous to have to do this, but worth checking out.
[01:03] <gbear14275> usr13: do you know of any that are current (ish) and ubuntu focused.  I've been trying to read the man pages but this is my first time doing this.  I'm not even sure what I'm looking to consult the man pages about (reading the man interfaces now)
[01:03] <Typos_King> toxic:    maybe any of the frontends may help :|
[01:03] <schlaftier> pokeh: glad I could help!
[01:03] <toxic> Typos_King, I'm on ubuntu-server...
[01:03] <fluffy_> Andorin: apt-get install pmount usbmount
[01:03] <eye-zak> jjnorth: i'm don't remember your motivation, jmontreal needs only 1 boot then can fix
[01:03] <jmonreal> jjnorth: ive installed it twice and got the same result
[01:04] <toxic> so no front-end, and I already tried ufs and firestarter : no such option possible !
[01:04] <vlt> Anyone (I've helped in the last hours ;-) knowing C here willing to help me with a small problem (the folks in #c are like "read a book first" ...)?
[01:04] <Andorin> fluffy_: Are those going to require command-line configuration? Remember, I'm helping a Linux noob here.
[01:04] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: hi. i use cpufrequtils
[01:05] <Typos_King> toxic:   I see, can't say :(
[01:05] <Loshki> vlt: yes, I'll bite. But it's offtopic for this channel, you'll have to PM me...
[01:05] <usr13> Hello Marge.  :)
[01:05] <fluffy_> Andorin: Don't think so, iirc.
[01:05] <Spunkym3nkey> does kde extra codecs help on supporting more file types?
[01:05] <sean___> pm for linux help
[01:05] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I think we're after the same thing here, it seems my GRUB configuration keeps installing to swap space...?
[01:05] <bazhang> !pm | sean___
[01:05] <corey> hey guys i'm a little confused.  I'm running 10.04 and about half of the time if my computer goes to sleep or hibernates i can't use my touchpad when i come back
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: did you get  cpufrequtils installed and going ok?
[01:06] <corey> though if i plug in a usb mouse it works just fine
[01:06] <MACscr> onetinsoldier: i just used the applet built into gnome. That seemed to do the trick. I kind of find it retarded that ubuntu had it on by default
[01:06] <usr13> corey: Fully updated?
[01:06] <jjnorth> jmonreal: What's your system been doing, for comparison's sake?
[01:06] <MACscr> aka, "ondemand" scaling
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: ahh, roger
[01:06] <corey> usr13: yes
[01:07] <maelaian> when i try to install all i see are square boxes instead of text
[01:07] <jmonreal> jjnorth: what do you mean?
[01:07] <eye-zak> jmonreal, jjnorth: my code (for something else) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/438074/ , take a look
[01:07] <gbear14275> is there anyway to make a nic card LED flash?  I don't know if my left or right nic is my eth0
[01:07] <greezmunkey> gbear14275: ping something
[01:08] <jjnorth> jmonreal: Nevermind, doesn't look like the same issue.
[01:08] <asw3> what can i do with this error :\
[01:08] <asw3> cannot access /home/user/.gvfs/: Transport endpoint is not connected
[01:08] <eye-zak> jmonreal, jjnorth: grub_disk was used to load locale, background image, etc from label-based /boot drive
[01:08] <Stavros> hello
[01:08] <CR3AL> hiya
[01:09] <Stavros> is there a stripped-down version of ubuntu? i don't really need the graphical packages, i just want something like the server version but even that is 600mb
[01:09] <rascal999> any wizards on nfs shares and diskless booting?
[01:09] <CR3AL> Yes
[01:09] <Johnny_101> Stavros, CR3AL : welcome to Ubuntu
[01:09] <CR3AL> crunchbang
[01:09] <jmonreal> eye-zak: what does that mean?
[01:09] <bazhang> Stavros, the minimal version
[01:09] <fluffy_> Stavros: debian netinst :p
[01:09] <Stavros> bazhang: which one is that?
[01:09] <bazhang> CR3AL, dont recommmend that here
[01:09] <sabat> vlt: step 2 complete, I did sudo vgcreate dumptruck /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 and it seems to have worked so far.
[01:09] <bazhang> !minimal | Stavros
[01:09] <jmonreal> eye-zak: I've just tried update-grub and got a message cannot find list of partitions
[01:10] <Stavros> bazhang: oh damn, i never knew this existed, thanks!
[01:10] <usr13> gbear14275: Well, one thing you can do is start a ping to a particular IP and unplug the cables and watch for the ping results to stop.
[01:10] <fluffy_> I never knew Ubuntu had a minimal version. Y'learn something new every day :D
[01:10] <eye-zak> jmontreal: are u in the live disk, in a chroot ? did you bind-mount /dev/ from outside
[01:10] <tux414> I have a built in microphone on an acer aspire one  model #Kav60 series d250-1417 microphone won't work with any skype or empathy
[01:10] <vlt> sabat: fine
[01:10] <vlt> sabat: go on
[01:10] <greezmunkey> *Question* Regarding update-grub, is it the same as update-grub2 (assuming grub2 is installed)?
[01:11] <bazhang> greezmunkey, update-grub is used for grub2
[01:11] <eye-zak> jmontreal: so i think the easiest way is to get the UUID of your /boot (or /root if you have no /boot)
[01:11] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: yes
[01:11] <sabat> vlt: so now I use pvcreate to make the new large disk on it right?
[01:11] <greezmunkey> Thansk guys :)
[01:11] <eye-zak> bazhang: update-grub is update-grub2 if you have only grub2 installed
[01:11] <gafir> hello
[01:11] <gafir> How can I know the partition name of /home and the partition name of /
[01:12] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I'm going to reboot and see if a manual config fixed this; otherwise, it's back to specifying kernel and initrd from the GRUB shell...
[01:12] <eye-zak> jmontreal: then look for all of the search .. --fs-uuid --set XXXXXXX and set them
[01:12] <gafir> I set them as two different partitions, but they only appear as in the same directory
[01:12] <bastid_raZor> gafir: type mount
[01:12] <sabat> vlt: I only want one partition out of all this, so I am assuming my next step is "make the drive" then "format the drive" then "mount it"
[01:12] <Goatee> hey, I kinda went too far with making nautilus looking good and hid the menubar - in fact all bars. is there a way to redo it? because I wanted to change the background-image of nautilus and can't get to the "edit" menu. ^^
[01:12] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help
[01:12] <gafir> bastic_raZor: worked thanks :-)
[01:12] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok, that should be the uuid that appears in /etc/fstab right?
[01:13] <eye-zak> jmontreal: yes the one for /
[01:13] <eye-zak> jmontreal: or /boot if you have a seperate /boot
[01:13] <Condoulo> are there any tools in Ubuntu that I can use to compress PNG files?
[01:13] <jmonreal> eye-zak: ok
[01:13] <usr13> marge: Hello Marge!
[01:13] <Andorin> fluffy_: It would also appear that his Windows XP partition is not appearing in the list on the left in Nautilus. >>
[01:13] <eye-zak> jmontreal: if you don't know, you can use sed -i 's/OLD-UUID/NEW-UUID/g' /path/to/grub.cfg to replace all
[01:14] <vlt> sabat: Yes, I already described how to "make the drive"
[01:14] <fluffy_> Andorin: being a fixed internal drive that probably needs to go in his /etc/fstab
[01:14] <swordz> Hi. When I boot up my PC, afetr the flash screen but before the login screen, I get a 'snow' screen - random lines on the screen. Worryingly, sometimes this screen contains fragments from my previous session (since which my computer has been OFF).
[01:14] <Andorin> fluffy_: But /my/ WinXP partition appears in the pane...
[01:14] <pokeh> How can I get lirc to start on login?
[01:15] <fluffy_> Andorin: ah. Does he go through the complete shutdown in XP?
[01:15] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> Condoulo: sure.. optipng, pngcrush. there might be others as well. don't know
[01:15] <jmonreal> eye-zak: they are set :S
[01:15] <eye-zak> swordz: this may be an issue with the default framebuffer driver vga16fb
[01:15] <Condoulo> onetinsoldier, thanks :)
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> Condoulo: you're welcome
[01:15] <Andorin> fluffy_: Yes.
[01:15] <swordz> It remembers what was the screen over a power off?!
[01:15] <jjnorth> eye-zak: That's got it.  It's a dirty hack, but it works.
[01:15] <eye-zak> jmontreal: that is all you need, grub is already in the mbr so try reboot
[01:15] <swordz> How do I stop it? Can I? Is it known about/scheduled to be fixed?
[01:15] <rascal999> netbooting using nfs share. I change pxelinux.cfg/default file from append root=/dev/nfs netboot=nfs nfsroot=<IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/fs initrd=initrd.img rw (note *rw*)  to append root=/dev/nfs netboot=nfs nfsroot=<IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/fs initrd=initrd.img and i get this error rpc.statd is not running but is  required for remote locking -- Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start stad
[01:16] <Andorin> fluffy_: And according to him, the drive doesn't auto-mount even with pmount and usbmount installed.
[01:16] <jmonreal> but when i did update-grub it did throw me the error i told you
[01:16] <eye-zak> jjnorth: hopefully you can get it to regenerate properly with scripts from /etc/grub.d/ but it takes some hacking, update-grub regenerates grub.cfg
[01:16] <jmonreal> eye-zak: but when i did update-grub it did throw me the error i told you
[01:16] <maelaian> when i try to install all i see are square boxes instead of text
[01:16] <pokeh> When I start my computer, I am greeted by a black screen with a blinking underscore in the upper left hand corner (after grub, mind you). After a a bit, it then goes into the Lucid loading screen with the nice graphics (plymouth). However, it is very brief. I suspect that I am spending most of my time in the blank/blink screen, and very little time in the actual loading screen. Does anyone know why this is?
[01:16] <eye-zak> jmontreal: update-grub makes grub.cfg, that is it
[01:16] <Andorin> fluffy_: Never mind. It mounts now.
[01:16] <sabat> vlt: I am assuming your talking about this line, (<vlt> sabat: Then create an LV in that group: `lvcreate <group name> -n <lv name> -l 100%FREE`. done) so.. lvcreate dumptruck -n (what goes here?) -l 100%FREE
[01:16] <jmonreal> eye-zak: what dows update-grub2 ??
[01:17] <eye-zak> jmontreal: exact same
[01:17] <Andorin> pokeh: Same for me when I boot on my desktop, but not my laptop. Is it a bothersome issue?
[01:17] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I feel I should enlighten you more on my situation: this laptop has been through a lot, starting off with an x86 install Gutsy, then upgrading through Intreprid with its sole clean install being to switch to amd64 in Jaunty.
[01:17] <fluffy_> Andorin: the stick or the XP partition?
[01:17] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Perhaps it's overdue for a clean install.  ;)
[01:18] <vlt> sabat: dumptruck is the name of your volume group. Now you need a name for the (one) volume you want to create in it.
[01:18] <Andorin> fluffy_: the stick, sorry. XP partition doesn't show up.
[01:18] <bolly> hi all im trying to grab my latest driver for my card with the hardware menu and its giving me:
[01:18] <bolly> SystemError: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/nvidia-96_96.43.17-0ubuntu1_i386.deb Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:18] <eye-zak> jjnorth: hmm interesting.. but that should not hurt grub, but i'm a little lost as to your excact situation
[01:18] <bolly> any ideas?
[01:18] <FloodBot3> bolly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:18] <bolly> eep sorry
[01:18] <MACscr> got kind of a dumb question. I often launch programs from console and when i do and i want to get back to the command prompt, i would press control + c, the problem is that often cancels the app i had launched. Whats the proper way to do it?
[01:18] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work
[01:18] <usr13> jjnorth: Is it a dual core processor?
[01:18] <pokeh> Andorin: Lol, it's not particularly "bothersome", but if there's an easy fix I wouldn't mind getting rid of that screen and spending more time looking at my beautiful plymouth theme :D
[01:18] <eye-zak> jmontreal: if you want to run update-grub[2] in a chroot, you need to do sudo mount --bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev first
[01:18] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Well, don't worry about it too much.  It's an HP Pavilion, so it's been nothing but trouble from Day One back on Shrike.
[01:19] <maelaian> Anyone know why on the install screen all the text are boxes.
[01:19] <eye-zak> jjnorth: i'm glad i went with the dell inspiron
[01:19] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Got a cooling pad though, right? ;)
[01:19] <jjnorth> usr13: Didn't mean to ignore you; no, it's a Turion 64.
[01:20] <eye-zak> jjnorth: that's what my roomate does with his
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: there's 2 ways... the easy way is to do a command like this...  command &
[01:20] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work pm me to help
[01:20] <jjnorth> maelaian: Sounds like an error with libpango.
[01:20] <eye-zak> jjnorth: his gpu has overheated into death
[01:20] <usr13> jjnorth: Have you installed a 64 bit OS?
[01:20] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: no one is going or should pm you to help you with it
[01:21] <MACscr> and to say html isnt working, what the heck are you saying?
[01:21] <tux414> Does anyone know how to troubleshoot built-in microphones on net books.
[01:21] <MACscr> oh, im retarded, you said hdmi
[01:21] <MACscr> lol
[01:21] <jjnorth> maelaian: Sorry, I've had the problem before, don't remember how I fixed it. :(
[01:21] <eye-zak> tux414: which net book ?
[01:21] <jjnorth> usr13: Yeah, back at Jaunty.
[01:21] <fluffy_> Andorin: have to go soon, but here's a couple things to suggest for the XP disk -- try adding it into fstab, failing that he may just have to manually mount it. Linux can be hit and miss when it comes to NTFS in my experience, but mostly hit ;)
[01:21] <tux414> eye-zak, acer aspire one
[01:21] <pcgeek32147> why i need help
[01:22] <maelaian> this has had to be the worst install experience i have ever had with linux. Ive never needed special kernel flags before.
[01:22] <jjnorth> usr13: Why, did you have some questions?
[01:22] <jmonreal> eye-zak: it worked! thanks
[01:22] <maelaian> ontop of the installer isues.
[01:22] <usr13> jjnorth: Ok, well never mind. Not sure what your problem is.
[01:22] <jjnorth> usr13: lol, that could come across wrong... ;)
[01:22] <Johnny_101> bolly : solved?
[01:22] <tux414> eye-zak, d250-1417 is the series
[01:22] <bolly> no sir
[01:22] <eye-zak> tux414: see help.ubuntu.com, there is an issue that one of the stereo channels on your mic is used for noise cancellation
[01:22] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work pm me to help
[01:22] <compaq> you know, my cpu is idle, before, I had compiz and nvidia card with proprietary drivers, and my cpu was all maxed out, spent hours shopping online for a new computer, and then I removed the nvidia card, and am using onboard intel with just metacity, and my cpu is barely even used up
[01:22] <eye-zak> jmonreal: your welcome
[01:23] <Andorin> fluffy_: Right. Thanks for your help.
[01:23] <jjnorth> usr13: Sometimes, I don't know what my problem is, either.  ;)
[01:23] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: you see my message? try -->  command &
[01:23] <eye-zak> tux414, i saw it earlier, i think it's in the release bugs for karmic, or the pulseaudio page
[01:23] <fluffy_> Andorin: no worries :)
[01:23] <Typos_King> Andorin:   http://maketecheasier.com/auto-mount-your-ntfs-partition-in-ubuntu/2009/04/14  if it helps
[01:24] <jjnorth> usr13: You got quiet there... XD
[01:24] <MACscr> onetinsoldier: as in: 'conky &' ?
[01:24] <usr13> jjnorth: Maybe you should just re-install.
[01:24] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work pm me to help
[01:24] <compaq> I don't know if it was compiz or nvidia proprietary driver that was killing my cpu.  Anyway, i am going to turn on compiz in a bit and check again, then I will tell you if the proprietary drivers were too heavy or compiz
[01:24] <usr13> marge: Yes, you can get on it now.
[01:24] <tux414> eye-zak, thanks i will give it a shot
[01:24] <jjnorth> usr13: Yeah, I had to get the system operable first, though... turns out, it's the only functional optical drive in this house.
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> MACscr: yes
[01:25] <sabat> MACscr: yes, the & means to run something, but immediately return me to the shell
[01:25] <jjnorth> usr13: I don't have good luck with hardware. ^^'
[01:25] <usr13> jjnorth: Oh, I see.
[01:25] <MACscr> sabat: thats not working
[01:25] <jjnorth> usr13: Now the terrifying part of that, is that I'm a technician by trade.
[01:25] <usr13> jjnorth: Hardware does not require luck.  It either works nor not.  :)
[01:26] <pcgeek32147> plz help me
[01:26] <pcgeek32147> i have dell mini 10 it has a Intel NM10 Express video card but hdmi does not work help how do i make it work pm me to help
[01:26] <Scunizi> compaq: souldn't be.. I just came in so missed a lot of your issue.. did you "upgrade" or fresh install?
[01:26] <greezmunkey> jjnorth: terrifying to your customers mabe :)
[01:26] <goundy> Hi
[01:26] <jjnorth> greezmunkey: If I told them that, yes. ;)
[01:26] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: damnit, be patient, have you never used irc before?
[01:26] <goundy> Guys I just upgraded to ubuntu 10.04
[01:26] <Inu> Hi, I updated from 9.10 to 10.04 and now my network is disabled. Can't ping, update, anything.
[01:26] <compaq> scubacuda, my cpu is idle, before, I had compiz and nvidia card with proprietary drivers, and my cpu was all maxed out, spent hours shopping online for a new computer, and then I removed the nvidia card, and am using onboard intel with just metacity, and my cpu is barely even used up
[01:26] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: your obviously not providing enough information for anyone to even help you
[01:26] <goundy> But I get a random freeze/hang up
[01:26] <goundy> The CPU starts working at 100%
[01:27] <goundy> And I can't do anything
[01:27] <goundy> I've to use the power button to shutdown
[01:27] <jjnorth> Inu: Separate computer, I hope?
[01:27] <eye-zak> Inu: what is the status of your network card with ifoconfig -a
[01:27] <goundy> Anyone came across this ?
[01:27] <jjnorth> Sorry, sorry, I couldn't help myself. ^_^
[01:27] <Scunizi> compaq: which driver did you use 173 or the "other" that has no version number?
[01:27] <Inu> haven't tried that one yet. i will
[01:27] <Andorin> !enter
[01:27] <eye-zak> goundy: what were u running ?
[01:27] <Goatee> hi. I really need some help. :/ I have hidden all my bars in Nautilus - including the menubar with "file, edit, etc." and can't undo it anymore. whenever I change the gconf to "start_with_menubar = true" and restart nautilus it changes it back to false. any ideas? I tried to change it as root as well.
[01:27] <goundy> eye-zak, well the first time pidgin, thunderbird and a gnome-terminal
[01:27] <maelaian> Anyone know why on the install screen all the text are boxes? It was hell even getting the installer this far...
[01:28] <compaq> Scunizi, I can't remember, it is an nvidia 128mb old card, let me see 1 sec
[01:28] <Condoulo> with pngcrush, which options should I use to compress a png?
[01:28] <goundy> eye-zak, second time + xchat and google chrome
[01:28] <bart_> Howdy Y'all
[01:28] <jedc> I just installed 10.04 on my a lenovo g555, the problem is my speakers do not mute when I plug in headphones and I can't find controls to mute them without muting the headphones also.
[01:28] <eye-zak> goundy: my xchat is horrible, i cannot browse channels
[01:28] <goundy> eye-zak, it works perfectly for me
[01:28] <compaq> Scunizi, I am pretty sure it was gforce or something like that
[01:28] <eye-zak> goundy: when i do, i think that was what i got
[01:29] <bart_> jedc: do you have an X-Fi card?
[01:29] <eye-zak> goundy: i browse, enter channels,  oh yeah the key was make Favourites
[01:29] <Scunizi> compaq: naw.. what I was asking is when you enabled the drivers, which one did you pick.. on my system there were 2 to choose from
[01:29] <compaq> Scunizi, there weren
[01:29] <goundy> eye-zak, so?
[01:29] <Scunizi> compaq: none? so was this a fresh install?
[01:29] <eye-zak> goundy: by 3 or 4 my xchat stalls
[01:29] <compaq> Scunizi, it didn't give me the option, just the one proprietary came up, and asked to enable it and I said yes
[01:30] <sabat> vlt: I created my volume, called it 'dt' but I don't see how I mount it.
[01:30] <goundy> eye-zak, only xchat ?
[01:30] <compaq> Scunizi, yeah
[01:30] <goundy> eye-zak, I get my whole system freezing dude lol
[01:30] <sabat> vlt: should it show up in /dev somewhere now?
[01:30] <eye-zak> goundy, ok not the same prob then .. i could recover
[01:30] <goundy> heh
[01:30] <eye-zak> goundy, sounds like xorg/video issues but who knows
[01:30] <bart_> I am having a rediculous amount of sound problems with 10.04... been messing with it for 2 days... and looks like i can't fix it
[01:31] <vlt> 01:51 < vlt> sabat: You have a new 2TB sized block device in /dev/mapper/vg_name-lv_name
[01:31] <goundy> eye-zak, I think ti's actually the 2.6.32-22 kernel
[01:31] <asw3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/212789
[01:31] <jjnorth> dosordie... died?  Must've had a change of heart.
[01:31] <sabat> vlt: ty... sorry, I lose some of the conversation in such a busy channel
[01:31] <asw3> how to fix this?
[01:31] <bart_> looks like the X-Fi Extreme Audio was left out of all the driver sets from both alsa and creative...
[01:31] <eye-zak> goundy, did you try the newer kernels from the kernel team (not in repo)
[01:31] <sjefen6> "Failed to fetch http://no.archive.ubuntu.com" have something exploded?
[01:31] <sabat> vlt, again, thank you wholeheartedly. you've been more than helpful and patient.
[01:32] <Scunizi> compaq: ok.. 2 things.. right after a fresh install I always "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. that brings in all the newer packages since the release.. then go to System>Admin>Hardware Drivers and look there for your options.. most likely you'll have 2.  On my laptop it enabled the 173 driver which tends to overheat my computer.. the other didn't. On my desktop machines I typically use the driver
[01:32] <Scunizi>  direct from Nvidia.. but that's another issue..
[01:32] <goundy> eye-zak, I never manualy built kernel for ubuntu actually
[01:32] <eye-zak> goundy, i think they are pre-built images if i remember correctly
[01:32] <compaq> Scunizi, no, there were none there
[01:32] <Scunizi> compaq: did you do all the updates though?
[01:32] <compaq> Scunizi, there were none there
[01:33] <goundy> eye-zak, I just found it I'm gonna try kernel .33 :)
[01:33] <maelaian> Ok I tried to ignore the boxes and continue installation. When I hit install after going through all the screens it kicked me to desktop. Whats going on?
[01:33] <eye-zak> goundy, but if it's a module you can build the module seperately, i had to do that so sound and usb would work on my intel
[01:33] <goundy> thanks dude
[01:33] <bart_> lol... with my bluetooth headset i have MIC but no output, with my on board NVIDIA sound i have MIC but no output, and with X-Fi I have output but no MIC
[01:33] <goundy> eye-zak, yeah I see
[01:33] <jjnorth> sjefen6: ping -c1 no.archive.ubuntu.com returns 100% packet loss... :(
[01:33] <compaq> Scunizi, yeah, well I did a few install tries and I installed all the updates once, it doesn't make much of difference in my opinion, the release was just a few weeks ago
[01:34] <Nick07> I need HELP!!! some dummy put windows and messed up my ubuntu grub
[01:34] <Nick07> using 10.04 lts desktop
[01:34] <jjnorth> sjefen6: Looks like it's back up now. :)
[01:34] <arand> !grub2 | Nick07
[01:34] <eye-zak> Nick07: what position is your machine in now ? borked grub ?
[01:34] <sabat> vlt: one last question, do suggest any FS in paticular for a large drive like this? I was kinda tossing reiserfs and ext4 around in my head, but I really don't know the strengths or weaknesses of them
[01:35] <maelaian> Screw 10.04. Im installing 9.10 lol.
[01:35] <Scunizi> compaq: it can.. there are several versions of 10.04 that will happen.. 10.04.1 10.04.2  10.04.3 .. depends on the devs.. but there's continuous updates that's why the long string for updating.. it catches all that needs to be cought
[01:35] <arand> Nick07: reinstall according to wiki
[01:35] <Nick07> yeah
[01:35] <maelaian> Whats the steps for an upgrade of a clean 9.10 system to 10.04, trying to find it on the wiki i dont see it.
[01:35] <eye-zak> Nick07: see wiki
[01:35] <jjnorth> Reiser's a killer filesystem.. or so I'm told. =3
[01:35] <sjefen6> jjnorth: these computers; they are truly a strang contraption
[01:35] <Nick07> how do i reinstall grun without hurting my ubuntu setup
[01:35] <Flannel> jjnorth: Please refrain from those sorts of things
[01:36] <jjnorth> Flannel: Got it, won't happen again. :)
[01:36] <Typos_King> grun?
[01:36] <pussyroller> help!  made custom ubuntu live cd, but it can't detect hard disk!  what can i do to fix this problem?
[01:36] <bart_> sabat: ubuntu won't provide support for reiser.. .only ext4
[01:36] <vlt> sabat: I'd go for ext4
[01:36] <Flannel> bart_: That's not correct
[01:36] <vlt> sabat: (but I'd do that for any sized fs ;-)
[01:36] <bart_> Flannel: That was what I read
[01:36] <compaq> ok here it goes, compiz --replace, lets see it strain on resources
[01:36] <Nick07> need a link to a wiki or step by step how it please
[01:37] <Flannel> bart_: That's inaccurate.  We recommend ext4 as a default, but "only supporting it" isn't true
[01:37] <jedc> Does anyone know how I can find controls to mute my laptop speakers but not my heapphone output? there are only master and pcm controls in alsamixer.
[01:37] <sabat> vlt: ah ok. I really don't know what reiserfs is, but I know they used it on my server at work, so I was contemplating it.
[01:37] <Flannel> Nick07: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:37] <bart_> Flannel: Good to know
[01:37] <jjnorth> bart_: Um, there are some less-than-reputable news sources that used recent events to push that line.  It's not true, though.
[01:37] <greezmunkey> mmm ice cream :P
[01:37] <eye-zak> jdec: have u looked at all of the cards in alsamixer
[01:37] <sabat> vlt: I've always used ext2/3/4 since I got into linux
[01:37] <kr3w> is there another choice?
[01:37] <jedc> eye-zak, how do I do that?
[01:38] <eye-zak> kr3w: xfs
[01:38] <compaq> oh well, it doesn't even start anymore, now that I enable metacity compositing
[01:38] <pcgeek32147> macscr<<< all the info i have is its a dell mini 10 with a Intel NM10 Express
[01:38] <kr3w> is it better?
[01:38] <kr3w> performance wise
[01:38] <eye-zak> jdec: type h in alsamixer and read the help
[01:38] <jjnorth> Flannel: I got my joke was out of taste, but I hope that last comment was more acceptable...?
[01:38] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: then your not going to get any help
[01:38] <jv_> my xorg.conf does not exist in X11, intel 945 graphics
[01:38] <vlt> sabat: I used reiserfs too but I think nowadays ext3/4 are as good as it.
[01:39] <Scunizi> !xrandr | jv_
[01:39] <eye-zak> kr3w: i have run into the "max # of files" on ext2,3,4 but not xfs
[01:39] <jjnorth> Flannel: Seems the Enquirer has a funny way of making their own headlines.
[01:39] <kr3w> what does that mean?
[01:39] <aprilhare> is there an easy way to install this under ubuntu? http://zfs-fuse.net/
[01:39] <Scunizi> jv_: not only dual screens but everything monitor related
[01:39] <kr3w> real life examples wise
[01:39] <eye-zak> jv_: xorg.conf is now filled in automatically by xorg/udev
[01:40] <pcgeek32147> what more info do you need dude
[01:40] <eye-zak> aprilhare: download and build source ...
[01:40] <jedc> eye-zak, I can get front mic and mic controls with alsamixer -V all, but the only card I can look at is 0
[01:40] <gbear14275> usr13: so I've read the man interfaces page and am a little confused about the correct syntax to use.  I don't understand what the iface and inet does.  (e.g. iface eth0 inet dhcp)
[01:40] <aprilhare> eye-zak, thanks
[01:41] <aprilhare> eye-zak, in other words no there isn't an easy way :)
[01:41] <greezmunkey> iface == interface, inet == tcp/ip
[01:41] <jv_> eye-zak, tx, do you know what file should I edit to disable one of dual monitors?
[01:41] <gbear14275> usr13: if I am trying to configure eth1 to have a static address on boot, I'm assuming dhcp wont be there, but do I need the iface and inet?
[01:41] <eye-zak> jedc, it may not be supported for your card ... not sure
[01:42] <pcgeek32147> macscr<<< all the info i have is its a dell mini 10 with a Intel NM10 Express
[01:42] <pcgeek32147> what more info do you need dude
[01:42] <eye-zak> aprilhare, the instructions are there download install deps and run scons in the source dir
[01:42] <gbear14275> usr13: I've also tried to search the man pages for iface but nothing came back
[01:42] <jv_> I can do it by GUI but one screen is broken...or should I blacklist the driver?
[01:42] <jjnorth> Hey guys, here's a question... does XChat have any way to isolate usernames for responses?
[01:43] <MACscr> pcgeek32147: and i already told you thats not enough information to help you. You need to go into way more detail on your issue. More than likely you need to open up a post on the forums
[01:43] <eye-zak> jv_: xorg.conf, but you only need to add values for the thing you want to change. I don't know what the exact setting is for randr (i have nVidia) but you only need a Device section
[01:43] <eye-zak> jv_: or a screen section if that is where it is for randr
[01:43] <iflema> jjnorth yes. /lastlog nick
[01:43] <Loshki> jjnorth: I've always thought a button which presented a threaded view of all the conversations for a nick would be handy...
[01:43] <jjnorth> iflema: Thank you.  Been searching for that for a bit. :)
[01:44] <jv_> eye-zak, tx, will do
[01:45] <usr13> gbear14275: iface just designates the interface (iface is just short for interface)  "iface eth0" means that you are designating interface eth0 to be what ever it is you want it to be.
[01:45] <sunny0422> hey guys im having trouble with my sound since i just installed ubuntu can anyone help?
[01:45] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Do you know which version you installed?
[01:45] <sunny0422> http://pastie.org/972924
[01:45] <eye-zak> sunny0422: what specifically
[01:46] <sunny0422> the latest version
[01:46] <sunny0422> 10. something
[01:46] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Okay, thanks for that.  What PC do you have (make, model)... do you know if it's 32 or 64-bit... things of that nature...?
[01:47] <sunny0422> 64 bit asus laptop
[01:47] <sunny0422> gaming edition
[01:47] <usr13> gbear14275: "iface eth0 inet dhcp"  Means:  Interface eth0 is set to dhcp.
[01:47] <kr3w> anyone using xchat here?
[01:47] <jjnorth> kr3w: Just about everyone, I'd think... ;)
[01:47] <maelaian> mIRC ftw.
[01:47] <jjnorth> sunny0422: What's it doing / not doing?
[01:48] <sunny0422> its doing nothing
[01:48] <jjnorth> maelaian: I stand corrected.  :)
[01:48] <kr3w> is there a way to do multi-server from commands
[01:48] <kr3w> rather than ctrl+T
[01:48] <sunny0422> all settings seems to be right but its just not playing
[01:48] <kr3w> cause that's really annoying
[01:48] <kr3w> like mirc had /server -m
[01:48] <usr13> gbear14275: in man interfaces, skip down to the line that starts with, "Stanzas defining logical interfaces start with a line consisting of the word  "iface" followed by the name of the logical interface..." and read again.
[01:49] <jjnorth> sunny0422: At all (no login sounds) or only on certain files?
[01:49] <sunny0422> well the sound asus makes when computer turns on is there, but when OS loads nothing
[01:49] <maelaian> jjnorth: Id be using xchat but 10.04 installer seems to be quite a backwards step in terms of working. One thing after another, my 9.x CD works flawlessly no problems. Just put it in hit install and its done.
[01:49] <usr13> gbear14275: Or I should have said, the paragraph that starts with...
[01:49] <sunny0422> http://pastie.org/972926
[01:49] <moetunes> kr3w: you can use /server in xchat
[01:49] <eye-zak> sunny0422, have you chosen the profile in SoundPreferences ->Hardware you need
[01:49] <gbear14275> usr13: was doing so... I think I found it... so to set my static port I would use "iface eth1 inet static" thanks again
[01:50] <sunny0422> no how do i do that
[01:50] <usr13> gbear14275: Yes, that is correct.
[01:50] <kr3w> if i do that then it changes server
[01:50] <kr3w> i dont want that
[01:50] <jjnorth> maelaian: Too true, I'm working on hitting up a Lucid clean install now that I have this pile working again... ;)
[01:50] <kr3w> i want multi
[01:50] <sean___> nah
[01:50] <kr3w> irssi does multi server with /server
[01:50] <kr3w> not xchat :/
[01:50] <moetunes> kr3w: afaik it just adds a server - doesn't remove any
[01:51] <kr3w> let me see again
[01:51] <Scunizi> kr3w: xchat will do multi server .. so will Qaussel.. but irssi is fantastic.. Weechat is suppose to be as good depending on who you talk to.
[01:51] <kr3w> no it doesn't add on /server
[01:52] <kr3w> it disconnects the current
[01:52] <kr3w> then goes to the other one
[01:52] <kr3w> seems like the only way to
[01:52] <usr13> gbear14275: As you can see [in man interfaces] you can also designate gateway and netmask as well, so ...
[01:52] <kr3w> ctrl+t
[01:52] <kr3w> :/
[01:52] <FloodBot3> kr3w: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <sunny0422> im in system settings, multimedia, and i see my audio drives (HDA Intel (ALC663 Analog))
[01:52] <moetunes> kr3w: from the menubar - xchat - new - server tab
[01:52] <eye-zak> sunny0422, click sound icon ->sound preferences->hardware tab select your sound card and choose from the box at the bottom .. try digital vs analog
[01:52] <Scunizi> kr3w: I"m on kde right now so I can't give you the steps.. but instead of /server try /connect
[01:52] <sunny0422> when i click test nothing happens
[01:52] <jjnorth> sunny0422: System > Preferences > Sound, Hardware tab, should have...
[01:52] <kr3w> okay lets try that one
[01:52] <jjnorth> eye-zak got it
[01:53] <kr3w> nope
[01:53] <kr3w> doesnt work on /connect either
[01:53] <Scunizi> kr3w: probably what moetunes said.. sounds familure
[01:53] <eye-zak> sunny0422, i had possibly similar issue, but if your usb is working than it's not the same
[01:53] <kr3w> yeah i know that way, my original question was from command
[01:53] <kr3w> i know the menu option
[01:53] <sunny0422> eye-zak: i tested all 4 nothing yet
[01:53] <sabat> vlt: ok, took a while to format :) but I now have 1.9tb free on that drive. TY!
[01:53] <kr3w> and i know the keyboard shortcut too
[01:54] <sunny0422> eye-zak: usb working fine actually
[01:54] <kr3w> was wanting something similar to /server -m in mIRC
[01:54] <Scunizi> kr3w: ah.. then it is capable just not the way you want to use it.. it's tough when you're use to irssi
[01:54] <kr3w> yeah irssi is too pwnage :/
[01:54] <eye-zak> sunny0422, run dmesg | grep hda_intel and see if there are errors /post to pastie
[01:55] <kr3w> irssi craps up DCC resumes though
[01:55] <Scunizi> kr3w: there are scripts that will make it look like mIRC if you want..
[01:55] <sunny0422> eye-zak: i have 4 options, HDA Intel ALC663 Analog, HDA Intel ALC663 Digital, HDA Intel ALC663 Digital IEC958... , Jack Audio Connection Kit
[01:55] <sunny0422> eye-zak: Ok leme do that
[01:55] <whiter> im trying to modify the command ran on a menu item (skpe) by starting it with this command "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && skype" how can i edit the ubuntu applications menu entry to reflect that? when i just type it in the "command" field it fails to start
[01:55] <leader> hi all
[01:56] <kr3w> .le: yo
[01:56] <kr3w> hmm
[01:56] <Scunizi> sunny0422: analog if you have standard speakers
[01:56] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Might this be related? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480429
[01:56] <eye-zak> sunny0422, i'm not sure you're looking in the right place there are thing like 'Analog Stereo'
[01:56] <kr3w> how does the nick complete work?
[01:56] <moetunes> whiter: tried to do it without the   &&   ?
[01:56] <Scunizi> kr3w: type the first few characters and hit TAB
[01:56] <whiter> i need the && though
[01:57] <kr3w> ah got it
[01:57] <jjnorth> sunny0422: "Profiles" should be right below the hardware devices you just listed off.
[01:57] <kr3w> Scunizi: think it's good
[01:57] <kr3w> hah
[01:57] <kr3w> lol
[01:57] <Scunizi> kr3w: yep! :)
[01:57] <moetunes> whiter: that should be one command tho
[01:57] <eye-zak> jjnorth, not sure
[01:57] <sunny0422> jjnorth: i cant find hardware devices one sec leme give u a screen shot
[01:58] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Thanks, that's immensely helpful.  :)
[01:58] <whiter> no, it's two. i export that value, then start skype
[01:58] <Mixxit> onetinsoldier, hey im at the point where my drivers are installed and im wondering about glx :-)
[01:58] <kr3w> okay this is annoying, i really wanna do multi server from command line :/
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: roger. did you install mesa-utils? try.. glxinf
[01:58] <moetunes> whiter: you export the value for the command skype afaik
[01:58] <Mixxit> i did bud
[01:58] <Mixxit> get a big table
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: glxinfo
[01:59] <whiter> if i remove the && it doesn't work either.
[01:59] <moetunes> whiter: you said it doesn't work i\for a launch...
[01:59] <Inu> upgraded from koala to lynx and network is disabled. no ping, updates, nothing. ifconfig -a shows modem and says interrupt 29. it sees the modem but can't access it. tried going to system>admin>hardware drivers when i click on that i get 'can't connect to dbus' error message... help?
[01:59] <whiter> when i click Skype in the menu, it doesn't work.
[01:59] <unop> whiter, create a script and place that in your ~/bin/ directory?
[01:59] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: ok, roger.. what does it say near the very top?  for -->  direct rendering:
[01:59] <whiter> i just want to start skype that way, is there no way to do it?
[02:00] <whiter> through the menu?
[02:00] <iflema> whiter out it in ya .bashrc file
[02:00] <eye-zak> Inu: try logging out and back in or restarting, dbus should not give that error
[02:00] <whiter> right.
[02:00] <Mixxit> onetinsoldier, : http://www.pastebin.org/268783
[02:00] <unop> whiter, a script allows you to do whatever you want before launching skype
[02:00] <whiter> yes but im not trying to write a script
[02:00] <whiter> for one command
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: no. you don't have it. no glx
[02:00] <Inu> eye-zak, I've restarted like 5 times, cause i have to go on windows to get support here lol.
[02:00] <unop> whiter, fine, suit yourself
[02:00] <Mixxit> ok what package do i need to install?
[02:01] <Inu> same thing happens
[02:01] <whiter> i just want to click the Skype icon in my menu and have it start. i shouldn't have to write a script to do that i dont think..
[02:01] <Inu> i think i may have installed wrong but don't know where
[02:02] <eye-zak> Inu: haven't worked with modems in ubuntu, but hardware-drivers is jockey-gtk
[02:02] <Mixxit> nvidia-glx-96?
[02:02] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: i don't know. i'm not really that knowledgeable with X
[02:02] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: try running it again after doing this command --> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[02:02] <sunny0422> flickr stinks
[02:03] <moetunes> whiter: does right clicking the menu let you edit it?
[02:03] <sunny0422> takes freeking forever
[02:03] <whiter> yes it does
[02:03] <Inu> If i just delete everything and reinstall do you think it would fix it?
[02:03] <unop> whiter, not all scripts do complex, arcane things like cure world poverty or rid it off cancer - they can be used for just the kind of requirements you have -- a single line wrapper that deviates from the norm.
[02:03] <whiter> im aware of that.
[02:03] <moetunes> !who | whiter
[02:03] <sunny0422> http://www.flickr.com/photos/50501663@N08/4630746438/
[02:04] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: you'd probably be best off asking the channel how to get it working. let them know what video card you have, and what nvidia driver you have installed, ect.
[02:04] <Mixxit> okies
[02:04] <Mixxit> one sec just trying this other driver
[02:04] <Mixxit> and thanks man!
[02:05] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: sure, you're welcome
[02:05] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Oy, okay, Kubuntu.
[02:05] <kr3w> kubuntu was so garbage.
[02:05] <kr3w> felt like killing myself after a day
[02:05] <jjnorth> kr3w: Not that I disagree, but someone's still using it and can use some help.  ;)
[02:05] <rascal999> i have an nfsroot serving os to clients, i'd like to make it read only, how do i do this?
[02:05] <whiter> unop: i'm aware of that. but in the menu editor theres a field that says "Command:" why cant i just put what i want it to do there? versus writing a script.
[02:05] <kr3w> yeah haha
[02:05] <manchester> Try xubuntu fast as lightning
[02:06] <usr13> kr3w: So, you
[02:06] <sunny0422> jjnorth: its just different interface right?
[02:06] <kr3w> i tried xubuntu for a day too
[02:06] <iflema> whiter if you type the export command into a terminal, does skype work fot the rest of the session, without it/until next reboot?
[02:06] <usr13> kr3w: So, you're saying you don't much like KDE?
[02:06] <kr3w> was worst than the kubuntu
[02:06] <kr3w> :/
[02:06] <jjnorth> sunny0422: And different tools...
[02:06] <whiter> iflema: yes
[02:06] <bazhang> !ot
[02:06] <sunny0422> jjnorth: oh, how do i fix this problem in my os?
[02:06] <kr3w> usr13: i don't like it, nope, sorry!
[02:06] <iflema> whiter so put the export command in ya .bashrc file.... the way its supposed to be done
[02:06] <onetinsoldier> Mixxit: just in case you need to find out what nvidia packages you have installed, do --> dpkg -l '*nvidia*' | grep ^ii
[02:07] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Not sure offhand, but I'm looking for equivalents now.
[02:07] <goundy> eye-zak, it's thunderbird 3 man... he's messing up my system...
[02:07] <Mixxit> looks like i installed the normal non glx driver
[02:07] <Mixxit> brb gnna reboot now this is installed
[02:07] <airtonix> iflema, actually "the way its supposed to be done"... /cough
[02:07] <goundy> How to keep tb 2 ?
[02:07] <sunny0422> jjnorth: thanks a lot mate
[02:07] <Inu> eye-zak >	If i just delete everything and reinstall do you think it would fix it?
[02:07] <usr13> kr3w: Well, stick with what you like....
[02:07] <jjnorth> sunny0422: No problem.
[02:07] <eye-zak> goundy, hmm never used thunderbird ...
[02:07] <sunny0422> jjnorth: btw would it solve the problem if i just reinstall with simple ubuntu?
[02:07] <goundy> eye-zak, what do you use for mails?
[02:07] <kr3w> usr13: trust me, i did. used all 3 for a day and my choice has been made
[02:07] <jjnorth> Inu: I think it'd mess up more than it might help, but I'll hold off on anything final until eye-zak comments.
[02:07] <eye-zak> Inu: that's about all i can suggest, do nothing special in the install .. get it to boot and then have at it
[02:08] <eye-zak> goundy, nothing client-side
[02:08] <jjnorth> OH, wait, modem install?
[02:08] <kr3w> usr13: the amount of modifications i had to make to each to make it look the way i enjoy, GNOME was the best
[02:08] <goundy> eye-zak, okay ;)
[02:08] <airtonix> iflema, is it not true that the bashrc file is only read when you first open a terminal after logging in ?
[02:08] <Inu> yeah, jjjnorth
[02:08] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I'm confusing myself now, I'll stop butting in.  ;)
[02:08] <Inu> my modem is like disabled or something
[02:08] <bart_> has anyone out there gotten a X-Fi extreme Audio to work?
[02:08] <eye-zak> jjnorth, lol
[02:08] <usr13> kr3w: xfce is pretty good.
[02:08] <kr3w> yeah it was
[02:09] <kr3w> better than KDE
[02:09] <iflema> airtonix no
[02:09] <jjnorth> sunny0422: It'd help relevance to this channel, but I don't see where it'd necessarily fix the sound card.
[02:09] <sunny0422> yea im having the same feeling, KDE sucks, too heavy as well might as well do simple Gnome
[02:09] <jjnorth> sunny0422: So I'd hold off for the moment.
[02:10] <sunny0422> jjnorth: ok
[02:10] <jjnorth> sunny0422: I'm gonna guess and say "Multimedia" here.
[02:10] <onetinsoldier> kde is very pretty though
[02:10] <eye-zak> sunny0422, if you want to install gnome apps, you can install pavucontrol
[02:10] <usr13> kr3w: We have been told to take such discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:10] <kr3w> we have? by who? "|
[02:10] <unop> airtonix, when you open a terminal yes .. but it is called from ~/.bash_profile which is sourced when you open a login shell i.e. log in at the terminal
[02:10] <whiter> well i dont know what to put in .bashrc which is why i was trying to avoid that
[02:10] <whiter> but thanks anyway
[02:10] <toolbear> help!  made custom ubuntu live cd, but it can't detect hard disk!  what can i do to fix this problem?
[02:10] <sunny0422> eye-zak: gotcha
[02:11] <airtonix> unop, iflema ah which is not the ~/.bashrc
[02:11] <bart_> toolbear: what kind of hard disk?
[02:11] <jjnorth> eye-zak: You have a KDE history, I take it. ;)
[02:11] <eye-zak> sunny0422, that is the official pulseaudio sound control tool
[02:11] <usr13> toolbear: What kind of hard disk do you have?
[02:11] <airtonix> unop, iflema https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Persistent%20environment%20variables
[02:11] <sunny0422> eye-zak: think i should try and install it?
[02:11] <unop> airtonix, ~/.bashrc is called when you open a terminal and sourced from ~/.bash_profile
[02:11] <sangho> can i install MS Offfice 2010 with wine in 10.04?
[02:11] <usr13> toolbear: What do you see in the output of   fdisk -l
[02:12] <usr13> toolbear: What do you see in the output of  sudo fdisk -l
[02:12] <jjnorth> sunny0422: It can't hurt at this point.
[02:12] <eye-zak> jjnorth, no only i like simple and clean ... qt is not that .. but even nautilus with multitabs has way too many outlines for me
[02:12] <kr3w> sangho: office 2k10 doesn't work yet
[02:12] <toolbear> bart_, usr13: a SATA (7200 rpm magnetic disk)
[02:12] <eye-zak> sunny0422, yes it will work
[02:12] <sangho> thx :)
[02:12] <bart_> toolbear: are you using an on-board raid controller?
[02:12] <sunny0422> eye-zak: ok installing it noe
[02:12] <gartral> sangho: you will need to port some files from a working windows installation, it's not well supported, but can work
[02:12] <toolbear> usr13: i put it up at http://paste.linuxassist.net/215277
[02:12] <sunny0422> jjnorth: yea i would think not lol
[02:12] <sangho> ok
[02:12] <kr3w> gartral: you got it working? or know how? i haven't found anything yet! inform us
[02:13] <sangho> i`ll search for it
[02:13] <gbear14275> usr13: did you get my pm's?
[02:13] <sunny0422> jjnorth: with gnome i had easier time managing compiz as well, i hear KDE comes with it but i cant seem to find that either
[02:13] <toolbear> bart_: no.  i guess my hardware is capable of this, but i have it turned off in the BIOS
[02:13] <goundy> ubuntu 10.04. I remove mysql from ALL boot levels... it still loads when ubuntu starts... wtf ?
[02:13] <abdellatif> hi all
[02:13] <sunny0422> eye-zak: ok installed
[02:13] <unop> airtonix, iflema - you're right about not placing it in ~/.bashrc though - ~/.profile is the appropriate place for env. vars. that need to affect a graphical session
[02:13] <gbear14275> goundy: cd still in?
[02:13] <eye-zak> goundy, see /etc/init/mysql<something>.conf
[02:13] <abdellatif> i have probleme with flash player in ububtu amd64
[02:13] <goundy> gbear14275, I don't get your question :=)
[02:13] <bart_> toolbear: good... it took me 2 days to hack my way through a dm raid installation
[02:13] <goundy> eye-zak, ah, am having a look at it
[02:13] <eye-zak> sunny0422, run pavucontrol
[02:13] <abdellatif> i have probleme with flash player in ububtu amd64
[02:13] <kr3w> abdellatif: you might have to install ubuntu-tweak
[02:14] <abdellatif> i have probleme with flash player in ububtu amd64
[02:14] <eye-zak> goundy, the new upstart jobs
[02:14] <kr3w> dumbass.
[02:14] <jjnorth> goundy: He's asking if your install disc is still in the PC.
[02:14] <gbear14275> goundy: do you have a boot disk/drive still connected
[02:14] <bart_> toolbear: dmraid*
[02:14] <sunny0422> eye-zak: when i run it i get error saying Connection failed: connection refused
[02:14] <airtonix> unop, it says there its executed upon gdm login and text login.
[02:14] <goundy> gbear14275, no I don't
[02:14] <usr13> toolbear: It says "authorization required"
[02:14] <goundy> eye-zak, the new ubstart jobs hmmm
[02:15] <eye-zak> sunny0422, hmm no pulseaudio on dbus ... sorry but no KDE experience so can't help but suggest #kubuntu channel or install gnome
[02:15] <jjnorth> eye-zak re: sunny0422: Hardware issue?
[02:15] <toolbear> usr13, bart_: anyways, it is detecting my usb drive without any problem, but i don't even have /dev/sdb (/dev/sda is now the usb drive) or /dev/hda
[02:15] <usr13> toolbear: Try pastebin.com
[02:15] <bart_> toolbear: is this a brabd new disk? or are there other partitions on it already
[02:15] <eye-zak> goundy, see upstart-job wiki
[02:15] <kr3w> how good does ext4 run under RAID 0?
[02:15] <sunny0422> eye-zak: cant be it was running fine on windows
[02:15] <goundy> eye-zak, thanks ;)
[02:15] <unop> airtonix, errm no..  "~/.bash_profile or ~./bash_login - If one of these file exist, bash executes it rather then "~/.profile" ..."  -- the bash manpage concurs too
[02:15] <kr3w> especially if the hardware is already amazing
[02:15] <eye-zak> sunny0422, run pactl list from the command line
[02:15] <kr3w> going from single disk that is
[02:15] <toolbear> usr13: um, really?  i thought it gave a pop-up just saying that you are supposed to type in "linux" for both usr and password.  anyways, i'll put it at pastebin
[02:15] <whiter> iflema: what would i put in .bashrc just "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" ?
[02:16] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Well that failed, I meant to address that comment to eye-zak about a possible hardware issue.
[02:16] <eye-zak> sunny0422, it's not hardware, your card shows up in alsa and kernel pci
[02:16] <gartral> kr3w: IF it works anything like 2007 did, you need many of the mscvp dlls from windows (master service controls) and also i forget where, but theres a directory of DLLs that handle encrypted file executions
[02:16] <jjnorth> sunny0422: And subsequently answered.
[02:16] <unop> whiter, i wouldn't suggest doing that -- as this variable will be set for ALL your programs and that could be problematic
[02:16] <Nick07> hello
[02:16] <jahc> I got a question.. does Ubuntu Netbook remix still have that default netbook style UI that cant be switched over to the full desktop style UI?
[02:16] <kr3w> gartral: i installed office 2k7 right from installation files from latest stock wine
[02:16] <whiter> well unop, what should i do?
[02:16] <Nick07> im having a bad day with grub
[02:16] <kr3w> gartral: this was yesterday, made 0 modifications
[02:16] <charlieS> jahc: you could always switch it to the normal gnome desktop.
[02:16] <jahc> UNR 9.04 was perfect because I could turn off the netbook style UI
[02:17] <sunny0422> urg.. leme just install ubuntu, life would be easier brb in 10 mins
[02:17] <toolbear> bart_: about 1/2 year old, there are other partitions.  in fact, ubuntu (lucid) does recognize the hard disk, but only on the "official" live cd and on my hard disk installation.  i'm using a different live cd now, one that i put mostly the same packages on as I have on my hard disk install
[02:17] <jahc> when i upgraded to 9.10 I couldnt figure out how to change back to the normal UI
[02:17] <jjnorth> sunny0422: One sec
[02:17] <Nick07> could use the help
[02:17] <jahc> now I want to get the latest 10.x whatever it is :) I dont want to waste time. should I grab the netbook remix or the standard version? my netbook has a 7" screen
[02:17] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Might alsa be interfering somehow?
[02:17] <gartral> kr3w: last time i screwed around with all that, i had a pre 1.0 wine
[02:17] <myrl> hi
[02:17] <kr3w> just out of curiosity, is there any way to make window transparent when i move it in GNOME?
[02:18] <Anacleto> Help, i can't get more resolution on my monitor.....
[02:18] <eye-zak> jjnorth, no clue not enough info at this point
[02:18] <kr3w> gartral: under the latest, it's very cleaned up, try it out
[02:18] <jjnorth> eye-zak: I know it's out of left field, but if this is an upgrade in place...
[02:18] <eye-zak> kr3w, what window manager
[02:18] <Nick07> try to fix the boot problem but no go
[02:18] <kr3w> eye-zak: compiz
[02:18] <kr3w> eye-zak: and emerald
[02:18] <cornbreadly> I have a quick sd card reader question.  Are some card readers limited to what size media they can read?  I have a 2gb that is fine and a 4gb that doesnt show.  lsusb finds the reader.
[02:18] <eye-zak> jjnorth, could be incompatible alsa state
[02:18] <unop> whiter, well, there's two things - 1. edit the .desktop file for skype (/usr/share/applications/skype.desktop) and change the Exec= string  or 2. create a script in ~/bin/ that runs your command
[02:18] <sunny0422> jjnorth: btw is ubuntu ultimate edition considered ubuntu itself?
[02:18] <gartral> kr3w: i HATE MS products, if a workplace needs it, i load it in a vm under xp.
[02:18] <eye-zak> kr3w, there is a plugin for that in compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:18] <kr3w> gartral: ah you walk around with that bias, okay then
[02:18] <bazhang> sunny0422, no
[02:18] <myrl> kr3w idk
[02:19] <kr3w> eye-zak: thanks!
[02:19] <Nick07> need grub help 10.04 lts
[02:19] <sunny0422> bazhang: DAM!
[02:19] <toolbear> usr13: ok, http://pastebin.com/2g8dMGmx
[02:19] <jjnorth> sunny0422:
[02:19] <Nick07> please
[02:19] <jjnorth> Whoops, sorry.
[02:19] <gartral> kr3w: what can Office 2010 do that openoffice cant?
[02:19] <whiter> unop: does the .desktop file also apply to the Skype entry in the Applications menu? because thats where i launch it from.
[02:19] <jjnorth> sunny0422: If you run 'xterm -e alsamixer' what do you get?
[02:19] <kr3w> eye-zak: do you know what the plugin/setting is called? i can't spot it
[02:19] <eye-zak> gartral, cost $$$
[02:19] <bazhang> gartral, kr3w #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:19] <airtonix> gartral, save it in a format that openoffice cant open
[02:20] <eye-zak> kr3w, Move
[02:20] <sunny0422> this wierd looking volume control
[02:20] <kr3w> move where?
[02:20] <sunny0422> ill take a screenshot
[02:20] <eye-zak> kr3w, "Move Window" under Window Management
[02:20] <unop> whiter, yes, the menu entry runs the .desktop file actually -- which in turn calls the skype program (as set out in the Exec= line in the .desktop file)
[02:20] <kr3w> oh lol
[02:20] <whiter> unop: thanks
[02:21] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Master, Headphon, and PCM are all filled in (at least partially)?
[02:21] <sunny0422> jjnorth: yes
[02:21] <MACscr> hmm, anyone ever mess with their freedesktop.org.xml file so that they can modify syntax recognition in gedit? I just make a change to make .tpl use php syntax, then ran  sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime, but there still is no syntax highlighting going on
[02:21] <jjnorth> sunny0422: If you hit F6, what choices appear?
[02:21] <kr3w> eye-zak: it's on, not doing it though, i tried compiz --replace already ... any other ideas?
[02:22] <eye-zak> kr3w, you set Opacity to less than 100 ?
[02:22] <sunny0422> default, 0 HDA Intel , enter device name...
[02:22] <whiter> unop: just to test, i changed the application the .desktop file should launch, and i clicked the menu entry. it still launched skype...
[02:22] <kr3w> eye-zak: *slaps self*
[02:22] <bart_> toolbar: if you load gparted or the disk utility does it see the disk?
[02:22] <usr13> toolbear: Well, it appears you were wrong.  It does seem to be recognizing one hard disk drive: "/dev/sda: 4007 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes"
[02:22] <toolbear> bart_: nope
[02:22] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Okay, so down arrow key to "0 HDA Intel" and hit enter, the first three bars are mostly solid?
[02:22] <kr3w> eye-zak: there it goes
[02:22] <toolbear> usr13: no, that's my usb drive!
[02:22] <unop> whiter, what should it have launched instead?
[02:23] <whiter> eclipse
[02:23] <eye-zak> kr3w, and lots of fun ensues
[02:23] <sunny0422> yes
[02:23] <sunny0422> jjnorth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/50501663@N08/4630784076/
[02:23] <kr3w> eye-zak: it's more of a whatever feature that i wanted to further spite KDE
[02:23] <mixxit> onetinsoldier, http://www.pastebin.org/268854
[02:23] <usr13> toolbear: Is this a desktop or laptop?
[02:23] <jjnorth> sunny0422: I know this is getting redundant, but no "MM" on any of those bars?
[02:23] <bart_> toolbar: does an unmodified live cd see the drive propperly?
[02:23] <toolbear> usr13: desktop
[02:23] <unop> whiter, did you change the menu entry at all? such as editing it while trying things out?
[02:23] <onetinsoldier> mixxit: well, you have it now!
[02:23] <eye-zak> kr3w, try the following focus transparency it really works now, and can blacklist media players and such
[02:23] <whiter> unop: no
[02:24] <sunny0422> i sent u the screen shot, some have mm some dont
[02:24] <mixxit> woohoo!
[02:24] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Oh wow, headphones not showing up... hrm, shouldn't be an issue though...
[02:24] <mixxit> thanks!
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> mixxit: congrats :-)
[02:24] <usr13> toolbear: So it's an sata drive?
[02:24] <mixxit> so i am good for gl now?
[02:24] <kr3w> eye-zak: don't understand
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> mixxit: yes
[02:24] <toolbear> usr13: ok, now i've taken out my flash drive, here's what happens: "root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# fdisk -l
[02:24] <toolbear> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[02:24] <toolbear> "
[02:24] <mixxit> fantastic!
[02:24] <toolbear> usr13: yep
[02:24] <whiter> unop: i see what the problem is..
[02:24] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Well, that should do it, have you tried opening a local music file?
[02:24] <unop> whiter, what does the Exec line say in the .desktop file now?
[02:24] <unop> whiter, you do?
[02:25] <eye-zak> kr3w, there is a plugin that increases transparency of windows as you switch from them to new ones
[02:25] <whiter> unop: yes. i edited it earlier, but i clicked revert to original and it changed to eclipse.
[02:25] <sunny0422> the radio is playing already with amrok
[02:25] <airtonix> eye-zak, its not a dedicated plugin that does that.
[02:25] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Escape to close that alsamixer, incidentally.  ;)
[02:25] <sunny0422> no sound tho
[02:25] <xangua> eye-zak: yes, install compiz settings manager to configure them
[02:25] <eye-zak> kr3w, Trailfocus
[02:25] <unop> whiter, right, so things are working as expected now?
[02:25]  * o_a está ausente: Ausente no momento
[02:25] <jjnorth> sunny0422: hrm... could be a codec issue...
[02:25] <kr3w> eye-zak: don't have that one
[02:25] <usr13> toolbear: Could there be a hardware problem?  Is the drive plugged in good?  Is the data cable plugged in and the power cable as well?
[02:25] <kr3w> eye-zak: under window management?
[02:26] <airtonix> kr3w, you need to install more compiz plugins
[02:26] <eye-zak> kr3w, maybe install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[02:26] <jjnorth> sunny0422: It was working in Karmic, right?
[02:26]  * o_a voltou.
[02:26] <goundy> eye-zak, I've read the wiki page, doesn't say much it says to read man initctl, and the man doesn't say how to remove mysql from autostart ^^
[02:26] <eye-zak> kr3w, under Effects
[02:26] <unop> !boot | goundy
[02:26] <sunny0422> ok i see the problem
[02:26] <eye-zak> goundy, remove mysql.conf in /etc/init and make sure u did update-rc.d -f remove mysql
[02:26] <sunny0422> the sound is playing through laptops player
[02:26] <sunny0422> but
[02:26] <kr3w> eye-zak: trailfocus right
[02:27] <mixxit> onetinsoldier, omg it works!
[02:27] <sunny0422> its not playing when i plug something in
[02:27] <eye-zak> goundy, but that is really hackish
[02:27] <mixxit> onetinsoldier, legend matey thanks
[02:27] <eye-zak> kr3w, enjoy
[02:27] <sunny0422> im guessing a different device is not being caught
[02:27] <mixxit> have a great night all, one happy user here :)
[02:27] <goundy> eye-zak, I removed mysql.conf now, and yes I kicked it from rc I hop it's gonna work. Thank you man
[02:27] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Yeah, the alsamixer results seemed to indicate that nothing's showing up on that headphone jack.
[02:27] <kr3w> eye-zak: holy crap!
[02:27] <whiter> unop: now it says "Failed to execute child process "export" (No such file or directory)" which is my original problem
[02:27] <eye-zak> kr3w, lol
[02:27] <sunny0422> jjnorth: how do i fix that?
[02:27] <kr3w> eye-zak: dude! like
[02:27] <sunny0422> jjnorth: drivers needed?
[02:27] <kr3w> WOW
[02:27] <unop> whiter, what does the Exec line say in the .desktop file now?  "export" only applies to bash
[02:28] <kr3w> am i too easily impressed or is that impressive
[02:28] <toolbear> usr13: it's possible, but there never has been a hardware problem, and there wasn't one before i booted into this live cd...
[02:28] <eye-zak> kr3w, it was buggy for a while but suprise, suprise it is really good in lucid
[02:28] <whiter> unop: export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && skype
[02:28] <unop> whiter,  no, you would change the Exec line to something like.   Exec=XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 skype
[02:29] <eye-zak> unop, whiter i think you need env VAR=value in a desktop file
[02:29] <unop> eye-zak, you can set one prior to invoking the command
[02:29] <whiter> unop: that doesn't work.
[02:30] <compaq> Alright, I am coming back to ubuntu, I can't get flash playing in debian
[02:30] <whiter> eye-zak: i dont know what to put
[02:30] <kr3w> eye-zak: dude thank you for telling me that, it's very cool
[02:30] <goundy> eye-zak, ...  Mysql doesn't start anymore :'(
[02:30] <goundy> start: Unknown job: mysql
[02:30] <SirStan> Has anyone hacked the dell latitude "on" system to do anything cool?
[02:30] <unop> whiter, does this work from the shell?   XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 skype
[02:30] <goundy> man... what have I done ?
[02:30] <eye-zak> whiter, env XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 skype
[02:30] <cornbreadly> where can I go to trouble shoot a card reader?  Ubuntuforums people havent replied yet.
[02:30] <whiter> unop: no. but it does with export in front of it
[02:31] <unop> whiter, no, forget the export, that only applies to bash
[02:31] <eye-zak> goundy, sorry i thought that was your goal, reinstall mysql to get it back, use update-rc.d to manage runlevels i think
[02:31] <eye-zak> unop: do .desktop files run in a shell, i thought they didn't
[02:31] <goundy> eye-zak, If I reinstall it I lose all my tables...
[02:31] <unop> whiter, i just tried this command out - and it works fine.
[02:31] <cba123> I installed Tracker on Lucid, and I can't seem to get it started.  Even when I enable indexing, it doesn't start at all.  Any ideas?
[02:32] <goundy> eye-zak, you fucked me up :)
[02:32] <eye-zak> goundy, you can extract the file from the mysql package using dpkg -x <package>.deb destdir
[02:32] <onetinsoldier> goundy: do --> sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.1
[02:32] <whiter> unop: works from the shell, doesn't work in the .desktop file.
[02:32] <goundy> onetinsoldier, it's gonna keep my tables ?
[02:32] <goundy> *databases
[02:32] <onetinsoldier> goundy: sorry, just read you'd lose you stuff
[02:32] <eye-zak> goundy, if it's not in /var/cache/apt/archives use apt-get -d install --reinstall mysql
[02:33] <eye-zak> goundy, this will download but not install mysql
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> goundy: i don't know if you lose tham or not. do you know the filenames they are stored in?
[02:33] <toolbear> usr13: ok, i'm now on ubuntu booted from my hard drive, so there is no hardware problem
[02:33] <goundy> no idea
[02:33] <goundy> ...
[02:33] <goundy> guys nevermind I'm pissed off...    I was just going to suggest changing Terminal=1 in the .desktop file
[02:34] <jjnorth> sunny0422: Then post the results to a pastebin or something.
[02:34] <bazhang> kr3w, check the topic in this channel
[02:35] <goundy> onetinsoldier, no I know, but why adding this upstart thing ? which works for mysql and not postgresql yet
[02:35] <whiter> unop: i wasnt being very clear sorry
[02:35] <goundy> I mean why adding complication to linux ?
[02:35] <unop> whiter, what was the problem?  just so I know.
[02:35] <goundy> This isn't how we're gonna end up with a Linux that is as user friendly as proprietary software</TROLL>
[02:35] <whiter> unop: i just needed to set that enviornment variable before starting skype. env did it.
[02:35] <onetinsoldier> goundy: roger. i hear you. i don't have the answers
[02:35] <goundy> heh
[02:35] <kr3w> hmm i see it is released, okay
[02:35] <goundy> I guess, that's the way it is
[02:35] <kr3w> i guess that's what the kernel update was
[02:36] <unop> whiter, well, if you've exported the variable very generally -- it can affect other applications, like i said already, and be problematic
[02:36] <onetinsoldier> goundy: there is a way to get that .conf file out of the .deb package
[02:37] <whiter> unop: nothing else seems to work..
[02:37] <goundy> onetinsoldier, I asked somebody to give me his. I'm trying it to see if it goes on
[02:37] <toolbear> usr13: actually, i'm now running the live cd in qemu, and it can detect the hard disk just fine...(i'm using "qemu-system-x86_64 -boot d -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda /dev/sda")
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> goundy: roger, good luck
[02:37] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Dammit, looked like there might be a solution, too. :(
[02:37] <goundy> onetinsoldier, it worked !
[02:37] <toolbear> usr13: so, evidently, the live cd works just fine when it's in an emulator, but not when i actually boot off of it...
[02:37] <goundy> ouuuh... I'm relax now
[02:37] <goundy> thanks for all guys
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> goundy: sweet :-)
[02:38] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Well, if Sunny comes back, looks like it's a conflict with slmodemd.
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> lol
[02:38] <kr3w> does ubuntu boot off usb stick?
[02:38] <goundy> thank you onetinsoldier
[02:38] <goundy> ;)
[02:38] <kr3w> very curious
[02:38] <eye-zak> jjnorth, ok not even a clue what that is
[02:38] <usr13> toolbear: Hummm... not sure what to make of that...
[02:38] <xangua> !usb | kr3w
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> goundy: you're welcome. cheers :)
[02:38] <bazhang> kr3w, yes unetbootin
[02:38] <goundy> :)
[02:38] <pokeh> Hey! I use Gnome-Do and Rythmbox. Specifically, the Gnome-Do function to search for and play Rythmbox songs. It has indexed the songs, they are searchable, except all the songs are *wrong*. Let's say I tell Gnome-Do to play "Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da" by the Beatles. Instead, rythmbox will play some other (consistent) random song, like different artist, everything. Anyone know why this is/how to fix?
[02:38] <jjnorth> eye-zak: soft-modem driver.  Useless if you don't ever use dial-up.
[02:38] <toolbear> usr13: well, thanks for your help anyways
[02:39] <onetinsoldier> kr3w: sure. if your hardware supports booting from a usb stick
[02:39] <eye-zak> kr3w, it boots off of a usb stick if u just install it on the stick
[02:39] <kr3w> also i don't understand how my ubuntu is taking up 89 gigs :/
[02:39] <unop> whiter,  let me try this out on my .desktop file
[02:39]  * jjnorth blinks
[02:39] <whiter> unop: k
[02:39] <xangua> pokeh: no idea, the latest time i tried do worked fine, have you asked in #gnome-do channel''¿
[02:39] <onetinsoldier> kr3w: that's pretty unusual. are you sure? you might be looking at something wrong
[02:40] <pokeh> xangua: Didn't know there was an IRC for it! Is it on freenode?
[02:40] <eye-zak> kr3w, very unusual
[02:40] <kr3w> right click file system drive, click properties, says it at the bottom
[02:40] <jjnorth> kr3w: Is that using one drive for everything, or downloading the whole of the repositories?
[02:40] <kr3w> right place to check?
[02:40] <ScatterBrain> guys/gals, how does one adjust the screen resolution in Lucid?  I no longer can find "System/Preferences/Display".
[02:40] <kr3w> this is my pure nix drive
[02:40] <usr13> kr3w: You sure?  What does df say?   Or, df -h
[02:40] <kr3w> everything related is used for this
[02:40] <whiter> does anyone know if all Core 2 Duo's are 64 bit?
[02:40] <xangua> ScatterBrain: sys>prefs>monitor¿
[02:41] <eye-zak> whiter, afaik only core duo's were 32 bit
[02:41] <whiter> thats what i thought
[02:41] <kr3w> 10.1 nvm
[02:41] <jjnorth> kr3w: Sure there's not a decimal in there somewhere?
[02:41] <kr3w> k
[02:41] <ScatterBrain> xangua: thanks.
[02:41] <onetinsoldier> kr3w: run this command and tell me what it says at the bottom of the 'Used' column --> df --total -h
[02:41] <kr3w> this thing is worst at counting than windows
[02:41] <jjnorth> kr3w: Nevermind, lol.
[02:41] <kr3w> maybe cause of the swap partition
[02:41] <usr13> kr3w: Are you talking about how much Hard Drive space is actually being used?  (Or how much you've allocated for the OS...)
[02:41] <whiter> eye-zak: someone told me it was 64 but i wasnt aware
[02:41] <kr3w> it's a 500 gig drive, reads 441 total
[02:41] <kr3w> where'd the rest go?
[02:42] <kr3w> swap?
[02:42] <jjnorth> SAE > Metric.
[02:42] <usr13> kr3w: What does   df -h    say?
[02:42] <jjnorth> Or however that goes.
[02:42] <eye-zak> whiter, i switched my laptop from core duo to core 2 duo for the x64
[02:42] <kr3w> usr13: don't understand how to get to that or do that
[02:42] <onetinsoldier> kr3w: run this command and tell me what it says at the bottom of the 'Used' column --> df --total -h
[02:42] <usr13> kr3w: Open a terminal window and type    df -h    and hit enter.
[02:42] <kr3w> /dev/sdb1             442G   11G  410G   3% /
[02:43] <jjnorth> onetinsoldier: Surely, you mean "xterm -e df --total -h", as... yeah.
[02:43] <kr3w> 442G
[02:43] <whiter> eye-zak: Core 2 Duo T5250 is what i got
[02:43] <kr3w> but it's a 500G drive
[02:43] <eye-zak> kr3w, there is file system overhead but 500 gig drive is 5x10^9 but linux measures in 1024 not 1000 for 1k
[02:43] <onetinsoldier> jjnorth: ok. yeah, sure. :-)
[02:43] <jjnorth> kr3w: I wouldn't put money on that.
[02:43] <eye-zak> whiter, went from T2250 to T7200
[02:43] <kr3w> eye-zak: everything measures as 1024 and not 1000
[02:43] <kr3w> :/
[02:43] <whiter> i should probably install the 64bit version of ubuntu
[02:44] <eye-zak> kr3w, not the manufacturer / advertiser when they are trying to sell you something
[02:44] <jjnorth> eye-zak: Thank you, said it better than I could.  ;)
[02:44] <kr3w> eye-zak: manufacturer does, ads are a different story i agree
[02:44] <kr3w> total                 1.8T  286G  1.5T  17%
[02:44] <kr3w> hmm
[02:44] <kr3w> ah fuck it
[02:44] <kr3w> i got nuff space
[02:44] <kr3w> i don't care about 60 giggs
[02:44] <FloodBot3> kr3w: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <Daekdroom> kr3w, They market it as 500G because it's 500,000MB..
[02:45] <usr13> kr3w: Ok, that's enough....
[02:45] <rascal999> how do i mkfs.ext2 on a directory?
[02:45] <onetinsoldier> rascal999: you don't
[02:45] <jjnorth> rascal999: Very carefully.
[02:45] <eye-zak> rascal999, you can't , but you can create a loopback file
[02:45] <fqh> Hi all, what is the name of NVIDIA private driver?
[02:45] <usr13> rascal999: You make new filesystems on partitions, not directories.
[02:45] <patx> how could i add an Shut Down button to a submenu of my gnome menu?
[02:45] <eye-zak> fqh: use jockey-gtk or jockey-text to install nvidia drivers
[02:46] <rascal999> eye-zak: how do i loop-back a directory?
[02:46] <kr3w> usr13: pm
[02:46] <xangua> patx: removing indicator session applet
[02:46] <eye-zak> rascal999, loopback is a filesystem in a file so you need a blank file first run dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/output bs=1M count=<as many megs as you want>
[02:46] <jjnorth> patx: Where exactly do you want it?
[02:47] <eye-zak> rascal999, then run mkfs on the file .. it will warn but continue
[02:47] <patx> jjnorth, in the Other menu
[02:48] <rascal999> i could just get to the root of the problem. I'd like to make an nfsroot serving diskless clients read only
[02:48] <rascal999> but i can't do this without problems
[02:48] <eye-zak> rascal999, not sure about diskless clients at all what does it need
[02:48] <Empty_foo> how can I turn off the nag that want's me to upgrade to 10.04?
[02:48] <jjnorth> patx: Got it.
[02:49] <patx> yea?
[02:49] <jjnorth> patx: Does it need any special icon?
[02:49] <patx> nah
[02:49] <rascal999> eye-zak: i'd like diskless clients to boot off nfsroot, and any changes they need to make written to ram
[02:49] <rascal999> union fs
[02:49] <eye-zak> Empty_foo, let me tell you that both sound and usb were broken due to kernel driver bug fo mee
[02:49] <jjnorth> patx: Let me test it real quick, brb
[02:49] <patx> jjnorth, ok ty
[02:49] <eye-zak> rascal999, ok this is a bit complex ... u need an overlay filesystem .. i would say aufs but i believe my server crashes are due to aufs so that's a nono
[02:50] <unop> whiter, strange, editing the .desktop file that way doesn't seem to work -- but calling a script is a work-around and that works fine.
[02:50] <eye-zak> rascal999, oh sorry i see unionfs .. so you need a tmpfs and a writable directory that union fs will use for backing ... it's ok if it is read-write on the server
[02:50] <whiter> unop: i have no idea how to do that though, that's why i was trying to avoid it
[02:51] <eye-zak> rascal999, you may be able to bind mount a directory read-only however, just not sure
[02:51] <Mene-Mene> Where might I find a list of major new features 9.10>10.04?
[02:52] <jjnorth> patx: Ready?
[02:52] <patx> yea
[02:52] <unop> whiter, simple.  create a file called skype in your ~/bin/   directory and place these lines in ..  export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1  skype
[02:52] <eye-zak> rascal999, sorry i forgot most union filesystems will not work with NFS due to duplicate inodes
[02:52] <jjnorth> patx: Okay, what I did, was make a launcher to run the command from the Main Menu.
[02:52] <unop> whiter, then make the script executable with this command.   chmod +x ~/bin/skype
[02:52] <unop> whiter, that's it
[02:52] <patx> jjnorth, ok, what command?
[02:52] <rascal999> eye-zak: atm /etc/fstab on os which is http://pastebin.com/A8KbFzgN
[02:53] <jjnorth> patx: System > Preferences > Main Menu, click "Other", click "Add Item".
[02:53] <whiter> unop: i see, thanks
[02:53] <unop> whiter, actually, change that command to what you had i.e. with the &&
[02:53] <whiter> k
[02:53] <patx> ok
[02:53] <jjnorth> patx: Then it's "Name: Shut Down" "Command: gksudo 'xterm -e shutdown -h now'" "Comment: Shuts down the computer"
[02:53] <eye-zak> rascal999, on the client that is ... yes ?
[02:53] <squiggly> i'm running ubuntu from liveCD, how do i access a local drive?
[02:53] <bart_> I am trying to install build-essentials and keeps asking for a CD
[02:53] <rascal999> eye-zak: yeah
[02:53] <patx> jjnorth, ok thanks!
[02:54] <bart_> Asks for the live CD but with a different label than the ISO burn creates
[02:54] <jjnorth> patx: Should work from there, it'll ask for your root password to authorize the shutdown, then halt.
[02:54] <xangua> bart_: unmark the cd from system>administration>software origins
[02:54] <eye-zak> rascal999, ok sorry i was a bit confused ... this will probably require some custom hacks to the boot scripts
[02:54] <jjnorth> patx: You're certainly welcome.  :)
[02:55] <eye-zak> rascal999, i have done this before for aufs, i can give you my code ... it's not for your target and needs nfs put in ... most of it was inspired by casper
[02:55] <jjnorth> patx: Note the single quotes have to be there, or it simply won't work.
[02:55] <patx> yea i got it its working
[02:55] <eye-zak> rascal999, basically you need to boot like nfsroot, with extra parameters for your script which will mount nfs somewhere and tmfs somewhere and union them together for the rootfs
[02:55] <rascal999> eye-zak: yeah i've been trying casper and nfs, both hit dead ends with customization and read only fs
[02:56] <patx> you know where the icon would be by any change (the red button?)
[02:56] <bart_> That did it... weird.. i dont recall setting that
[02:56] <jjnorth> patx: Okay, well, glad to help out.
[02:56] <rascal999> well, with casper you can unsquashfs, but it's such a pain to do
[02:56] <eye-zak> rascal999, how do u distribute initramfs, or don't you for this type of setup ?
[02:56] <jjnorth> patx: I'll take a peak around.
[02:56] <patx> jjnorth, ^^
[02:56] <patx> ok thanks!
[02:56] <GeekSquid> bart_: # remove the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list for cdrom
[02:56] <whiter> unop: i'm stupid. i should have thought of that earlier
[02:56] <rascal999> eye-zak: for nfsroot i've got netboot for modules and boot
[02:57] <eye-zak> rascal999, casper is too bloated for what u want ... but the initscripts may have something for union mounts but i doubt it
[02:57] <bart_> GeekSquid: the CD was selected as an install source... unselecting it fixed it
[02:57] <eye-zak> rascal999, i'm not familar with how the netboot works but if your rootfs is unavailable you get an initramfs prompt, yes ?
[02:57] <rascal999> eye-zak: yeah
[02:58] <eye-zak> rascal999, so you are going to need to change the contents of that initramfs and add a custom nfs-union init script
[02:58] <rascal999> eye-zak: oh
[02:58] <eye-zak> rascal999, you pass init=<name of your initscript> to kernel so it knows what to run in the initramfs
[02:58] <unop> whiter, well, i did recommend that from the very start .. but you were against the idea.
[02:59] <whiter> unop: i didnt understand what you meant by script... when you say script i think other things
[02:59] <eye-zak> rascal999, your script will get called and it will have the responsibility of mounting the rootfs on /target i believe
[02:59] <unop> whiter, well, now you know :)
[03:00] <eye-zak> rascal999, i would start with the nfs init script, copy it and add some small code to mount a (limited size) tmpfs somewhere .. change the nfs mountpoint and then union them together
[03:00] <eye-zak> rascal999, vm's are your friend
[03:00] <franc> You are all good people. All of you, every single one of you.
[03:00] <rascal999> eye-zak: yeah, vm's have helped a lot
[03:01] <patx> jjnorth, back, sry, was testing it
[03:01] <jjnorth> patx: Figured as much.  ;)
[03:01] <eye-zak> rascal999, i'm going to get smokes but if you hack something up i will take a look when i get back
[03:01] <patx> lol
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