[05:57] <pawbie> AdrianStrays: Envy is one of those great things that...  when it works, it works great.  When it fails, it epic fails.  Sounds like you just have a slight fail at the moment, though.
[05:57] <pipegeek> Okay, I'm confused by this.  The upgrade is failing because it would have to remove nvidia-glx-new, but xserver-xorg-core conflicts with nvidia-glx-new
[05:57] <MeatGrinder> !torrent
[05:57] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[05:57] <KyleK> 1413 users? thats the number on my luggage!
[05:57] <ripps> THIS CHANNEL IS GETTING TOO FULL, IF YOUR HAVING PROBLEMS WITH COMPIZ, PLEASE GOTO #compiz-fusion
[05:57] <nhaines> patspam: My pleasure.  Torrents are a way to download from many people who are downloading a file.  It is popular for large files because it means that bandwidth is shared between downloaders.  Consider leaving your BitTorrent client running afterwards, to help out others who still need Ubuntu!
[05:58] <harriseldon> pipegeek did you have envy installed? If so, did you follow the directions to completely remove it?
[05:58] <schnootop> anyone have any idea why that might be ?
[05:58] <Irreducibilis> Will the channel explode if too many people are in it?
[05:58] <^V^> Hi, the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 didn't work correctly for me. The boot menu didn't get updated and when I tried booting into the old kernel version I obviously had issues with modules..(nvidia)
[05:58] <pawbie> Irreducibilis:  Yes.
[05:58] <AdrianStrays> harriseldon, oh wait, I miss read what you wrote.  I did use EnvyNG.
[05:58] <Irreducibilis> Perhaps if 6666 people join
[05:58] <MeatGrinder> any recommendations for a windows torrent client? I have getright and it supposedly works with torrents but never tried it
[05:58] <^V^> The menu.lst file appears to be correct though
[05:58] <Irreducibilis> MeatGrinder: uTorrent
[05:58] <LainIwakura> MeatGrinder: uTorrent
[05:58] <pawbie> MeatGrinder: Microtorrent or 'utorrent'
[05:58] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I am a little scared to touch the xorg.conf.  Last time I did that I made things a lot worse...
[05:58] <pawbie> utorrent ftw
[05:58] <MeatGrinder> ty
[05:58] <Irreducibilis> :D
[05:58] <nhaines> MeatGrinder: I've always been fond of uTorrent.
[05:58] <^V^> How do I update the boot menu now?
[05:58] <CyberCod> Irreducibilis: doubtful, but with too many people it is hard for anyone to get helped because the stuff scrolls by so darn fast
[05:58] <Kurtis-> Though BitTorrent 6 is just the same as uTorrent now
[05:58] <KyleK> yea utorrent is <3
[05:59] <Kurtis-> just rebranded
[05:59] <Irreducibilis> CyberCod: Ah...
[05:59] <generic> hi all
[05:59] <IcemanV9> MeatGrinder: another vote for utorrent :)
[05:59] <harriseldon> AdrianStrays make sure to do a backup of xorg.conf you can always restore it
[05:59] <generic> any one works on gosa
[05:59] <pawbie> unanamous?
[05:59] <Kurtis-> I use uTorrent myself in Windows
[05:59] <ripps> AdrianStrays: holdon while I find an aticonfig command to help you
[05:59] <pawbie> However you spell that....
[05:59] <generic> am getting lots of schema errors?
[05:59] <Irreducibilis> uTorrent appears to be the most pwnage client
[05:59] <generic> any idea
[05:59] <MeatGrinder> ok sounds good, once i get utorrent installed how do I find hardy
[05:59] <KyleK> omg
[05:59] <Kurtis-> you go to the download page
[05:59] <loufoque> Pokit: clearlooks isn't a gtk engine
[05:59] <LainIwakura> MeatGrinder: ubuntu.com
[05:59] <KyleK> Kurtis-: i thought you were kidding!
[05:59] <Irreducibilis> Wow, scroll much?
[05:59] <MeatGrinder> ok thanks
[05:59] <KyleK> thats funny
[05:59] <patspam> nhaines: for sure. sadly we don't get much in the way of upload bandwidth here in AUS but I try to seed until it gets too painful
[05:59] <McHearty> Anyone else not able to get anything working for their sources list in the new stable release?
[05:59] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me with setting the DPI of Firefox in hardy? It won't change the DPI when I try to change layout.css.dpi in firefox
[06:00] <loufoque> Pokit: well it is
[06:00] <nhaines> MeatGrinder: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent for the Alternate Install CD.
[06:00] <Kurtis-> Kidding about BitTorrent 6?
[06:00] <nhaines> patspam: Every little bit helps.
[06:00] <MeatGrinder> nhaines, thanks
[06:00] <loufoque> Pokit: but there are multiple clearlooks: a gtk engine, window borders, etc.
[06:00] <pawbie> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[06:00] <IcemanV9> McHearty: it is being slammed by many ppl today
[06:00] <ripps> AdrianStrays: Try  sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[06:00] <CyberCod> woot!  about to burn the ISO!
[06:00] <loufoque> Pokit: a gtk engine is just the controls
[06:00] <pipegeek> harriseldon, no i did not have envy installed.
[06:00]  * McHearty frowns
[06:00] <maap_rj> Hi Ubunters, I am using 7.10, but when a start compiz, my windows have no borders. Here is the output of my terminal after execute compiz  => http://pastebin.org/31859
[06:00] <jim_beam> how do you enable 64bit in ubuntu
[06:00] <loufoque> Pokit: if you want to change the window borders, that's separate
[06:00] <Mickey> anyone else having trouble with this update? the update manager stalls
[06:00] <McHearty> I can't get anything from any server
[06:00] <pawbie> jim_beam: Use a 64bit kernel.
[06:00] <morphy> still fighting hard to get to make USB install for 8.04.. any more suggestions ?
[06:01] <KyleK> maap_rj: shoulda started earlier or waited for hardy
[06:01] <McHearty> I even tried spain servers
[06:01] <KyleK> weeee release day
[06:01] <pawbie> I haven't even managed to boot 8.04 yet....  :(
[06:01] <loufoque> jim_beam: you must install from a 64 bit CD
[06:01] <IcemanV9> McHearty: try Canadian
[06:01] <loufoque> jim_beam: yes, that sucks.
[06:01] <crdlb> maap_rj: please join #compiz-fusion
[06:01] <crdlb> that's very easy to fix
[06:01] <^V^> pawbie: what is the problem?
[06:01] <jim_beam> the standard linux kernel has a flag for 64bit support is that the same w=(with sym processing)
[06:01] <pawbie> v: Grub boot error 21....
[06:01] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I entered it in, it backed up the original and said that videooverlay and open gloverlay don't affect running session.  Should I restart?
[06:02] <pawbie> I think the installer is counting my hardware RAID as 2 separate disks.
[06:02] <morphy> it really sux.. I want to install 8.04 and I dont have a cdrom to boot from :/
[06:02] <Mickey> it starts the install, stops, and says it can't access the servers
[06:02] <ripps> AdrianStrays: yes
[06:02] <pawbie> morphy: Install it with wubi?
[06:02] <bbyever> hi
[06:02] <loufoque> morphy: order one
[06:02] <AdrianStrays> ripps, brb
[06:02] <McHearty> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[06:02] <maap_rj> Kylek, thanks for your replay, but I really do not undestando why to try earlier??
[06:02] <McHearty> woot?
[06:02] <nhaines> Mickey: The servers are being hammered today.
[06:02] <fysa> There are no daily-live mirrors.
[06:02] <maap_rj> crd, thancks
[06:02] <morphy> I have an iso and I am trying to use that to make a USB bootable and am failing big time
[06:02] <Kurtis-> I imagine because everyone's asking about 8.04 now
[06:02] <loufoque> McHearty: lots of people are upgrading to hardy at the moment, hence the issues.
[06:02] <morphy> :/
[06:02] <bbyever> i get an I/O error message when trying to upgrade from a cd
[06:03] <pawbie> nhaines: I'm actually celebrating the issues.
[06:03] <amirman84> does anyone have a link to a page that explains all the different boot options for an ubuntu/windows dual installation?
[06:03] <McHearty> I should have just sat on the alpha build -_-
[06:03] <MeatGrinder> can someone give me checksum for the alternate
[06:03] <McHearty> woot for shitty broadcom
[06:03] <loufoque> morphy: booting from an usb stick is fairly difficult
[06:03]  * McHearty scowls
[06:03] <jtmonz> bbyever: same here... i switched servers
[06:03] <pawbie> I can't remember the last time a modern server got literally pounded out of operation for a Linux distro.
[06:03] <Mickey> ok, thanks, i'll keep trying :)
[06:03] <morphy> i386 apternative: 166991d61e7c79a452b604f0d25d07f9
[06:03] <pawbie> amirman84: man grub
[06:03] <MeatGrinder> morphy, thx
[06:03] <dulkemith> nirwana girl
[06:03] <nhaines> pawbie: Oh, it's happened every 6 months for about the last 2 years, at least.  :)
[06:03] <morphy> loufoque, not until the 7.04.. it could be achieved in a jiffy..
[06:04] <McHearty> Oh, and I love how the ubuntu help page still refers to pidgin as gaim
[06:04] <McHearty> That's gotta be good for the newbies
[06:04] <doolz> amirman84, http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[06:04] <morphy> its just this version that I am facing this problem :(
[06:04] <pawbie> nhaines: I don't remember it being this bad for the last 2 releases.
[06:04] <Toran> I was in the middle of upgrading to hardy with update-manager and I had to cancel it (it was in the "downloading packages" stage). What should I do to continue the upgrade?
[06:04] <bbyever> jtmonz: so i should download again?
[06:04] <KyleK> maap_rj: everyones messing with 8.04 today
[06:04] <pawbie> Toran: restart the update manager
[06:04] <devin_> last two releases weren't LTS
[06:04] <nhaines> pawbie: It was pretty close.  A day or two and it'll clear back up again.  It takes a week or so before it really gets better.
[06:04] <amirman84> pawbie: i'm specifically looking for alternatives to using just grub
[06:04] <pawbie> devin_: Zactly.  Nor did they feature wubi and the new AD thingie.
[06:05] <jtmonz> bbyever: i would just switch servers... it was easy to do in synaptic
[06:05] <Sciri> McHearty: Which page? On the Web site? I can poke someone about it.
[06:05] <gogeta> amirman84 floppy disk supergrub cd
[06:05] <McHearty> Hang on I'll link you
[06:05] <MeatGrinder> oh joy, i have 5.4k download on the alternate torrent...only 27 more hours to go!
[06:05] <therealnanotube> pawbie: ehrm... the slashdot effect happens every day. :)  though probably it's mostly bandwidth saturation rather than server pounding per se.
[06:05] <McHearty> Sciri: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport
[06:05] <pawbie> amirman84:  Why?
[06:05] <Schypher_> air/join #wpa_supplicant
[06:05] <Toran> pawbie: it doesn't recognize that there is a new version of ubuntu out, now. It just has a huge list of packages to upgrade as if I weren't doing a dist upgrade
[06:05] <XceII> only 27?
[06:05] <Sciri> McHearty: ta, I'll poke newz tomorrow morning.
[06:05] <maccam94> is it possible to do a "clean" install of ubuntu without formatting? (leaving /home the way it is, and no i don't want to go into making a separate home)
[06:05] <bbyever> what do you mean just switch servers...
[06:06] <pawbie> maccam94: Ya.  Make a new partition, cp -r /home to the new partition, and mount the new partition as your /home during install.
[06:06] <gogeta> maccam94 yep if you have a /home partation
[06:06] <therealnanotube> maccam94: back up /home to external drive, make clean install, move /home back.
[06:06] <gogeta> maccam94 just format /
[06:06] <AdrianStrays> ripps, still doesn't work....
[06:06] <Kurtis-> amirman84: Which are you trying to dual-boot?
[06:06] <nhaines> maccam94: Not without making a seperate /home partition.
[06:06] <KyleK> maccam94: boot the live cd and delete everything thats not /home, and then partition manually
[06:06] <amirman84> pawbie, gogeta: i wonder if i can use the windows bootloader to point to grub on my linux partition instead of having to overwrite the mbr with grub
[06:06] <Kurtis-> XP or Vista?
[06:06] <KyleK> maccam94: then dont click format
[06:06] <McHearty> ta-ta
[06:06] <IcemanV9> MeatGrinder: it'll speed up soon
[06:06] <gogeta> amirman84 kinda
[06:06] <jtmonz> .mx == mexico? just use another north american server... go in to synaptic or adept manager and change the default server from there
[06:06] <pawbie> amirman84: Have a look at how Wubi uses grub4dos to do that.
[06:06] <Kurtis-> amirman84: You can, but it requires some third party tools
[06:06] <amirman84> kurtis: xp media center
[06:06] <Fishscene> Windows bootloaders only recognize Windows OS's
[06:06] <ripps> AdrianStrays: can you post your xorg.conf?
[06:06] <MeatGrinder> IcemanV9, ok thanks
[06:06] <Kurtis-> Debian has an article how to use ntldr with bootpart
[06:07] <fysa> if you have an old version..  you can try to use rsync to update it based on differences.
[06:07] <cob> Fishscene: not true...I've booted linux from Windows' bootloader
[06:07] <jim_beam> is there a keep connection alive program
[06:07] <cob> due to a corporate requirement
[06:07] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I forgot the command to display it.
[06:07] <jtmonz> yeah, it's called wubi
[06:07] <Kurtis-> amirman84: http://www.aboutdebian.com/dualboot.htm
[06:07] <Fishscene> cob, seriously? Do you have an article I could follow?
[06:07] <rkvirani> hey all
[06:07] <gogeta> thers a way to boot it one ext3 to
[06:07] <nhaines> hey, rkvirani.
[06:07] <rkvirani> just downloaded the latest and installed it
[06:07] <jtmonz> Fishscene: install it with wubi
[06:07] <gogeta> using windows boot
[06:07] <LainIwakura> Can someone help me with my Internet connection? I can't get it to work, but it worked in Gutsy. I have a broadcom 4311 and the wiki page isn't helpful.
[06:07] <pipegeek> Ah.  Was using mirrors.kernel.org, which is a week behind.
[06:07] <IcemanV9> MeatGrinder: it usually starts slowly, then speed up quickly
[06:07] <rkvirani> downloaded the nvidia driver and the shadow for compiz is PINK!
[06:07] <Fishscene> jtmonz, that's cheating :|
[06:07] <gogeta> been a long time sence i tryed
[06:07] <jtmonz> (i think it's the last option when you boot the cd)
[06:08] <rkvirani> any ideas?
[06:08] <KyleK> rkvirani: we're not a forum, we dont really need introductions ;)
[06:08] <bbyever> jtmonz: but how would that make a difference? i checked de md5sum and it was correct...
[06:08] <harriseldon> amirman84 you can change the boot.ini to boot into grub -- I have done it before with lilo many eons ago
[06:08] <amirman84> what are the config files for wubi's bootloader called?
[06:08] <devin_> minus the fact that 8.04 server released also don't help speed things up any
[06:08] <pawbie> Lots of bcm43xx issues tonight.
[06:08] <cob> Fishscene: would be happy to google it up but currently waiting on ff to download java jre and with the apt repos all tied up with 8.04 install activity it's ttaking forever
[06:08] <rkvirani> KyleK: pardon me?
[06:08] <KyleK> rkvirani: what'd you break?
[06:08] <harriseldon> amirman84 I will search online and let you know
[06:08] <cob> pawbie: 8.04 release fudged broadcom up worse than beta
[06:08] <jtmonz> Fishscene: ohh, you want a separate partition
[06:08] <rkvirani> rkvirani: nothing...
[06:08] <KyleK> ah
[06:08] <amirman84> harriseldon: that's what i'm wanting to do, i think.
[06:08] <LainIwakura> I'm having trouble with broadcom yes
[06:08] <maccam94> KyleK: have you personally done it? as i remember in 7.10 it wouldn't let you proceed without formatting /
[06:08] <ripps> AdrianStays: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:08] <rkvirani> just installed the NVIDIA driver.
[06:08] <crdlb> rkvirani: that's a well-known nvidia driver bug:/
[06:08] <MeatGrinder> IcemanV9, does it matter which client I use? I'm using getright right now.
[06:08] <Fishscene> cob, no problem. I have to go now anyway, but I'll see if I can look into it anyway. Thanks for the heads up though.   Crap.  I have a friend that's downloading 8.04 in hopes of getting his bcm43xx up and running.
[06:08] <rkvirani> crdlb: what can be done?
[06:08] <LainIwakura> cob, did you get my pastebin?
[06:08] <Maxdamantus> I'm installing 8.04 onto a virtual machine in VMWare, using XFS as the root partition. The installer stopped at 94% (it warned me GRUB has problems with XFS), so I closed it, installed GRUB myself (from the `grub` prompt), and was able to boot to the GRUB command line. However, the installer hadn't got to making my grub.conf yet. Could someone pastebin theirs for me (I'll figure out what to edit)
[06:08] <AdrianStrays> ripps, no I know paste bin, I forgot how to bring xorg.conf up
[06:08] <james_> hi
[06:09] <rkvirani> it worked fine prior to 8.04 release
[06:09] <crdlb> rkvirani: you could turn off the shadows entirely I guess
[06:09] <KyleK> maccam94: thats odd, well you could debootstrap maybe
[06:09] <IcemanV9> MeatGrinder: it shouldn't matter
[06:09] <rkvirani> crdlb: alright
[06:09] <rkvirani> thanks
[06:09] <cob> Lainlwakura: no can you paste url again please?
[06:09] <LainIwakura> cob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64308/
[06:09] <LainIwakura> Thanks
[06:09] <derenrich> I'm having a problem where compiz fails to load properly (but direct rendering is enabled)  and I have to fall back on metacity. Anyone else noticing this problem?
[06:09] <cob> ok Lain  be a min...still waiting on this plugin install
[06:09] <mattycoze> hey does anyone know whether the Envy works in Ubuntu 8.04
[06:09] <ripps> AdrianStarys: From terminal -> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:09] <LainIwakura> cob: Okay, thanks.
[06:10] <pawbie> derenrich: XGL/AIGLX available?
[06:10] <LoLeN> does sb have a torrent link for ubuntu x386 desktop edition (DVD) ?
[06:10] <ceil420> why does Hardy include emacs? vim is clearly superior...
[06:10] <crdlb> derenrich: what video card?
[06:10] <pawbie> derenrich:  run "compiz --replace" from terminal and see if you get errors.
[06:10] <LoLeN> i cant get into the ubuntu website
[06:10] <derenrich> nvidia
[06:10] <harriseldon> amirman84 http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html It looks like a pretty good guide, but make sure to have backups of boot.ini and an xp disk handy to repair master boot record if you make a mistake
[06:10] <therealnanotube> how's multi-monitor support on hardy? nice and easy to set up, or still requires fiddling a lot with xorg.conf?
[06:10] <pawbie> LoLeN: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[06:10] <derenrich> pawbie: I get warnigns
[06:10]  * BACphist rocks
[06:10] <drivetrax> apt-get is not getting
[06:10] <bbyever> jtmonz: its just mine does mount, but when i select any option from the menu it gives me the error
[06:10] <AdrianStrays> !pastebin
[06:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:10] <james_> I just upgraded to 8.04 and want to install my video capture cards
[06:10] <pawbie> derenrich: ....do they say anything useful?
[06:10] <amirman84> mattycoze: from what i've heard you need a specific version of envy called envyNG for 8.04
[06:10] <jim_beam> can u upgrade from 7.1 to hardy with dvd
[06:10] <drivetrax> there we go
[06:10] <jtmonz> bbyever: probably a bad burn then
[06:10] <BACphist> :P
[06:10] <derenrich> pawbie: not useful to me, things like "/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32"
[06:10] <Geoffrey2> now, can I upgrade to Heron with a burned CD as the source?
[06:10] <mattycoze> amirman84 is that in Synaptic?
[06:11] <amirman84> harriseldon: thank you very much
[06:11] <AdrianStrays> ripps, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64309/
[06:11] <pawbie> derenrich:  That's useful.  You have no GLXFBConfig for depth 32.  Go add it.
[06:11] <ceil420> and why isn't an upgrade for libconfuse included? ><
[06:11]  * BACphist thinks that Hardy is gonna steal the 75% percent of market share windows has after there 25% drop
[06:11] <bbyever> jtmonz: ok, ill try burning again
[06:11] <ceil420> i better be able to update that on my own after this...
[06:11] <sigma_1234> is it dangerous to install gutsy packages in hardy?
[06:11] <pawbie> BACphist: Wishful thinking. :\
[06:11] <bbyever> jtmonz: thanks
[06:11] <BACphist> NAY!!!!
[06:11] <LoLeN> isnt there the dvd version?
[06:11] <crdlb> derenrich: please join #compiz-fusion to be factoided
[06:11] <BACphist> Well, maybe some will be mac
[06:12] <pawbie> BACphist: I'd just be happy when Apple dies completely.
[06:12] <meeper> BACphist: would you really want hardy to have 75%?
[06:12] <meeper> pawbie++
[06:12] <schnootop> anyone having any problems with upgrading and localisation files ? It seems to be choking on trying to fetch en_AU files ?
[06:12] <BACphist> But, windoze sales dropped 25 %
[06:12] <harriseldon> sigma_1234 depends on the package, but it is generally not a good idea
[06:12] <drivetrax> crdlb:  You know this!
[06:12] <meeper> pawbie: Apple is evil and scales me much more than Windows
[06:12] <jtmonz> bbyever: no problem
[06:12] <BACphist> They lost 25% market over too mac linux berkely unix etc
[06:12] <amirman84> mattycoze: i downloaded it off of their website but it didn't work for me but that was because i was using the older version of wubi for 8.04 that never finished the install. have you tried allowing backports and proposed packages in software sources?
[06:12] <pawbie> meeper: Agree.  Google is getting there.....
[06:12] <jtmonz> BACphist: i read 11%
[06:12] <jtmonz> earnings were 11% short, right?
[06:12] <nickrud> !windows
[06:12] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[06:12] <ceil420> BACphist, i think people are just sticking with XP and not buying Vista
[06:13] <BACphist> Yea,
[06:13] <mattycoze> amirman84 no i haven't
[06:13] <AdrianStrays> ripps, any luck?
[06:13] <BACphist> Never thought the day would come where i'd agree with that statement lol
[06:13] <ceil420> i know a lot of people that are holding out til Windows 7; if that fails as much as Vista apparently has, many will make the switch to alternative OSes
[06:13] <pawbie> ceil420: To quote the balmers....  "They're missing out on a lot of VALUE!"
[06:13] <Kurtis-> I don't see MS losing a good deal of marketshare anytime soon.
[06:13] <bcgrown> I am using the nvidia-glx-new driver with a Geforce fx 5500 and on my tv-out it only shows the top left corner of my screen (1024x768,  tv is supposed to be at 640x480).  how do i show the whole screen on my TV?  I have overscan set to zero
[06:13] <ceil420> pawbie, riiight :p
[06:13] <mattycoze> amirman84 what's the software repository i have to add in synaptic?
[06:13] <mgmz> any ubuntu program where i can input infrared from TV remote control and convert them to sound (*.mp3, *.wav, *.avi...etc)?
[06:13] <pawbie> ceil420: Seriously...  he says that....  weird dude.
[06:13] <KyleK> vistas not that bad, its the same amount of hassle with ubuntu
[06:14] <eugenebythesea> =0
[06:14] <Kurtis-> Vista doesn't suck, though. Not sure why everyone hates it so much, really.
[06:14] <schnootop> anyone have any idea ?
[06:14] <sigma_1234> i want to install apache mysql and php and postgresql and really dont want to re download them. also i use a gutsy version of quasar accounting. will that run in hardy?
[06:14] <jtmonz> bcgrown: i believe there is a program called nvidia-settings that should be installed already... try using that
[06:14] <pawbie> Kurtis-: I <3 Vista and Debian.
[06:14] <ceil420> pawbie, Ballmer's gotta be one of the most psychotic large-company CEOs of all time
[06:14] <pawbie> Ubuntu is pissering me off...  :\
[06:14] <nickrud> !offtopic | KyleK pawalls ceil420
[06:14] <ubotu> KyleK pawalls ceil420: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:14] <Kurtis-> I'm using Vista right now.
[06:14] <bittin> ;-(
[06:14] <bcgrown> jtmonz: i've been there, there's nothing to adjust that makes it work
[06:14] <j_humphrey> Does anyone know how to force the ipw3945 driver to be used in hardy?
[06:14] <talcite> hey nickrud, are there any issues with resizing the /boot partition I should be aware of?
[06:14] <mattycoze> amirman84 or is it already in the list
[06:14] <ceil420> Kurtis-, my computer would choke on Vista. also, it's ugly. and that's the last of MS that i'll talk about, lest someone kicks me <_<
[06:14] <BACphist> Kurtis:  Vista is gay, like tetris, and you. Be a real man download a UNNIX like solaris or BSD
[06:14] <talcite> Hardy complains my boot partition is too small
[06:14] <BACphist> Sissys.
[06:14] <jtmonz> bcgrown: hmm, sorry... ati here :(
[06:15] <nickrud> talcite get rid of it, just keep your kernels in the /boot on the root partition ;)
[06:15] <pawbie> bacphist: Server 2008 core ftw.
[06:15] <Radiobuzz> Hi all, I'm having a problem: I've upgraded to Hardy and apparently everything went well, the problem was that I answered "no" when the installation asked me if it should update grub list automaticly... Now I have the same old list with Ubuntu 7.10 and kernel 2.6.22-14. When I run "update-grub" I think it sees the new kernel (which I assume is 2.6.24-16) and says "updating list... done" but in reality it doesn't modify the list. Could anyone help me?
[06:15] <talcite> nickrud: oh =S. Err how should I do that?
[06:15] <nickrud> talcite but resizing issues? None that I can think of :)
[06:15] <bullgard4> mc shows an entry prefixed with an exclamation mark (!). I found that this means a "stale symlink". What is a 'stale symlink'?
[06:15] <mattycoze> amirman84 (i'm currently trying to download it from the software backports from synaptic; just letting it refresh the list; which is taking an unbelievably long time; perhaps becausethe server is being nuked atm)
[06:15] <unop> j_humphrey, if 'sudo modprobe -v ipw3945' loads the module and your device works find and you are happy, add ipw3945 to your /etc/modules list and reboot
[06:15] <Kurtis-> Psh, anyone who results to insulting obviously doesn't know any actual reasons to dislike it other than it's trendy.
[06:15] <amirman84> mattycoze: i would STRONGLY recommend going into SYSTEM > ADMINISTRATION > SOFTWARE SOURCES and enabling "proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" , "software restricted by copyright and legal issues (multiverse)" under the Ubuntu software tab
[06:15] <pawbie> Radiobuzz: After you update, I believe you still have to install again.
[06:15] <schnootop> by looking in http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/restricted/i18n/ only en files there are is en_GB is it possible to change it over to this and just use GB locale files ?
[06:15] <nickrud> talcite you could unmount boot , then run sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) grub
[06:15] <ceil420> bah i still have qt crap installed ><
[06:15] <unop> s/find/fine/
[06:15] <ripps> AndrianStrays: Copy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64310/ and replace xorg.conf -> "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf/"
[06:15] <talcite> nickrud: ahh ok good. would I need to reboot onto a liveCD? or is unmounting the partition good enough?
[06:15] <pawbie> Radiobuzz: I'm probably wrong, though.  wait for a second opinion.
[06:16] <Kurtis-> At least I can get wireless drivers to work in Vista.
[06:16] <jeffimperia1> Newbie help here again, pls.. Just mounted the alternate ISO for hardy.. now, which do i execute? the cdromupgrade md5?
[06:16] <insub> Hi all
[06:16] <talcite> oh...
[06:16] <MrObvious> How come my wireless only connects at a 2Mbps using WPA and being right next to the router?
[06:16] <Radiobuzz> pawbie, you mean to reinstall Hardy?
[06:16] <bittin> hi
[06:16] <CyberCod> is there some reason why the Wubi installer keeps trying to download a new ISO even though I'm running it off an 8.04 disk?
[06:16] <mattycoze> amirman84 why so strongly recommended?
[06:16] <mattycoze> most people do anyway amirman84
[06:16] <talcite> nickrud: for resizing I mean. I think I'll move to /boot next clean install
[06:16] <pawbie> Radiobuzz: NO!@#  Hah..   Reinstall grub.
[06:16] <amirman84> mattycoze: also allow third party software and proposed and backports under the updates tab
[06:16] <insub> Is there an office torrent for the new ubutnu release ?
[06:16] <j_humphrey> unop, i tried modprobe ipw3945, but it says module does not exist
[06:16] <pawbie> insub: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[06:16] <insub> offical**
[06:16] <KyleK> MrObvious: literally next to? if so thats the problem
[06:16] <nickrud> talcite no reason you couldn't resize it
[06:16] <ceil420> no update for e16 either :x
[06:16] <talcite> nickrud: great. Thanks
[06:16] <insub> thanks pawbie
[06:16] <unop> j_humphrey, you probably need to get the source for it and install it
[06:16] <Radiobuzz> pawbie, oh, LOL, ok thanks. I'll still wait to see if anyone has another idea though :)
[06:17] <j_humphrey> unop, will i have to recompile the kernel?
[06:17] <pawbie> radiobuzz: Ya ;)
[06:17] <insub> trying to download it from a server was dreadful lol
[06:17] <pawbie> MrObvious: Wiki "omnidirectional antenna"
[06:17] <unop> j_humphrey, not if you compile the driver as a module -- then you just modprobe it
[06:17] <^V^> My menu.lst is updated but the boot menu isn't using it, how do I update it?
[06:17] <j_humphrey> unop, how do i compile it as a module?
[06:17] <AdrianStrays> ripps, done
[06:17] <Shadow_X> how do i upgrade from the alternate cd?
[06:17] <amirman84> mattycoze: because i've spent weeks trying to get my wireless and graphics card to be supported in ubuntu, going through all the hassle of combing the forums and messing with code i had no idea about in the terminal when i didn't need to, when i allowed those software sources the drivers came in automatically and installed painlessly only requiring one reboot
[06:18] <ripps> AndrianStrays: Now reboot
[06:18] <mattycoze> amirman84: oh
[06:18] <AdrianStrays> ripps, brb
[06:18] <unop> j_humphrey, the source for the driver will have instructions -- the procedure for each driver can be different
[06:18] <node357> the installer I have says it's pre-release.. did I grab the wrong ISO ?
[06:18] <j_humphrey> thanks unop
[06:18] <nickrud> ^V^ grub should use that new menu.lst automatically, unless you aren't editing the right one? You have more than one linux install on the system?
[06:18] <cob> omg ok, everyone off the apt repos for a minute...I need to finish this jre install
[06:18] <FastZ> ^V^: did you reboot?
[06:18] <tawt> what's the difference between desktop and server versions?
[06:18] <pawbie> ^v^: grub-install
[06:18] <pawbie> tawt: The installer....
[06:19] <Kurtis-> How would I blacklist the b43 driver from loading for my Broadcom chip? I want to use ndiswrapper
[06:19] <talcite> tawt: the server versions don't have X11 by default
[06:19] <Y-Town> Do the Europe and German mirrors to download 8.04 have english version or are they in other languages by default?
[06:19] <samliu> server doesnt install a gui by default
[06:19] <^V^> nickrud: That's the state that my upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 left the system in
[06:19] <cob> Kurtis-: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:19] <FastZ> tawt: pawbie: the kernel
[06:19] <unop> tawt, the server versions don't have GUI environments, and come with the LAMP packages by default
[06:19] <Kurtis-> well, yeah, I know about that
[06:19] <talcite> tawt: If you aren't clear on the differences, I'd say desktop is the one you want =D
[06:19] <Kurtis-> but would I just list "b43"?
[06:19] <mattycoze> amirman84 are you in aus? the sudo apt-get update process lags heaps on au.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:19] <Sciri> tawt: Desktop has a GUI for home/office/notebook users. Server has no GUI for, well, servers like Web and database. ;)
[06:19] <tawt> lol  yeah.  just curious
[06:19] <Kurtis-> cob: would I just type b43 in there?
[06:19] <nickrud> ^V^ put your menu.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org just for fun
[06:19] <FastZ> unop: Ubuntu server comes with LAMP packages by default now?
[06:19] <pawbie> fastz: Ya?  I figured server precompiles were the same as desktop kernels.
[06:19] <jeffimperia1> Just mounted the alternate ISO for hardy.. now, which do i execute? the cdromupgrade md5?
[06:19] <talcite> ahh. server edition's pretty fun. I threw it onto an old machine to play around with
[06:19] <samliu> Kurtis, what kind of card do you have
[06:20] <talcite> its interesting
[06:20] <unop> FastZ, yep
[06:20] <cob> Kurtis-: whatever is loaded up, check lsmod, I would say be sure b43-legacy or anything else with b43 in the name is blacklisted
[06:20] <amirman84> mattycoze: no i'm in the US
[06:20] <Kurtis-> bcm4311 rev 2
[06:20] <KyleK> Kurtis-: blacklisting or the other one?
[06:20] <mattycoze> oh ok
[06:20] <KyleK> cos the syntax in /blacklist is blacklist b43
[06:20] <gogeta> unop: ubuntu has roaches lol lots of bugs
[06:20] <mattycoze> amirman84 reckon it'll be right if i change the server?
[06:20] <drivetrax> Gutsy Ubuntu SE..satanic edition..lol
[06:20] <bcgrown> (10:13:37 PM) bcgrown: I am using the nvidia-glx-new driver with a Geforce fx 5500 and on my tv-out it only shows the top left corner of my screen (1024x768,  tv is supposed to be at 640x480).  how do i show the whole screen on my TV?
[06:20] <gogeta> :P
[06:20] <iusegnulinux> hi all, just booted into 8.04 :)
[06:20]  * nickrud gets tired of telling people not to modify blacklist, but create a new one to edit
[06:20] <LainIwakura> Kurtis- I have a bcm4311 too. Should I blacklist b43 and use ndiswrapper?
[06:20] <FastZ> pawbie: nah, the server kernel has is hardened a little and has some other stuff... i'm not 100% up to speed on the differences, but i know there are some slight inequalities between the two versions
[06:20] <unop> gogeta, i can't say i am surprised :) it's well, expected
[06:20] <Kurtis-> LainIwakura: I have no idea
[06:20] <samliu> yeah blacklist b43
[06:21] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[06:21] <samliu> you have ndiswrapper set up?
[06:21] <Cpudan80> I've got a wierd problem
[06:21] <Radiobuzz> I'll try to add it manually to the list, we'll meet again if something goes wrong. Thanks pawbie!
[06:21] <amirman84> you shouldn't need to use terminal commands at all. just allow those sources and update through the GUI
[06:21] <Kurtis-> I don't even see b43 listed in here
[06:21] <ceil420> iusegnulinux, i have "About 16 hours 6 minutes remaining" to install Hardy <_<
[06:21] <Y-Town> Do the Europe and German mirrors to download 8.04 have english version or are they in other languages by default?
[06:21] <Cpudan80> So I just upgraded to hardy --- but now the number pad (on the keyboard) wont work
[06:21] <talcite> uhh... sorry why is everyone here saying blacklist b43?
[06:21] <LainIwakura> not sure how to blacklist it or setup ndiswrapper
[06:21] <samliu> no you have to add it
[06:21] <FastZ> unop: when did LAMP become standard package install?  with 7.10 it wasnt default I dont think...or was it?  i did a dist-upgrade for that version
[06:21] <pawbie> Radiobuzz: grub-install shouldn't be damaging if you want to try it.  G'luck.
[06:21] <cob> Kurtis-: ssb?
[06:21] <ceil420> (finally got dist-upgrade to work)
[06:21] <nickrud> Y-Town the cd's are all the same
[06:21] <pawbie> pft, AMP?  Like anyone uses that....
[06:21] <Cpudan80> It's a laptop connected to a docking cradle...
[06:21] <drivetrax> num-lock on?
[06:21] <^V^> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64311/
[06:21] <talcite> as of the 2 6 24 kernel, b43 should be the one to use. Ndiswrapper is pretty terrible. bcm43xx is even worse
[06:21] <Y-Town> nickkewl, the mirrors are faster  :o)
[06:21] <ceil420> FastZ, when did emacs become a standard package install? i don't even want the program ;x
[06:22] <cob> Lainlwakura: not sure you want to go that route yet...unless you really want to
[06:22] <Kurtis-> cob: yes, ssb
[06:22] <LainIwakura> talcite: How can I get b43 to work?
[06:22] <KyleK> i wish b43 worked for me :)
[06:22] <^V^> nickrud: it looks okay but it just isn't being used
[06:22] <Schypher_> any expert on ndiswrapper?
[06:22] <nickrud> ^V^ and what do you see when you boot?
[06:22] <talcite> LainIwakura: what kernel version are you running? uname-r
[06:22] <talcite> uname -r*
[06:22] <samliu> gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:22] <^V^> the old menu with 7.10
[06:22] <samliu> add the line *blacklist b43*
[06:22] <samliu> save and close
[06:22] <Cpudan80> Nevermind
[06:22] <FastZ> ceil420: huh? who said anything about emacs?
[06:22] <eugenebythesea> talcite: i used to use ndiswrapper for 7.10, and am now on 8.04 - should i use b43 then?
[06:22] <Cpudan80> Google is my friend :-)
[06:22] <samliu> use ndiswrapper
[06:22] <nhaines> talcite: Use a wired connection System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[06:22] <AdrianStrays> ripps, well I have video now, but it blinks in and out and has lines all over the place
[06:22] <nhaines> talcite: But remove ndiswrapper first.
[06:22] <nickrud> ^V^ show me the contents of /etc/fstab
[06:23] <samliu> if ndiswrapper worked before, I wouldn't stop using it
[06:23] <amirman84> How do i mute the PC speaker beeps on Ubuntu?
[06:23] <talcite> eugenebythesea: depends on your card. Ndiswrapper is good if you happen to be using the MN-720
[06:23] <pawbie> amirman84: Take the pcspeaker out.
[06:23] <nickrud> ^V^ and the output of sudo fdisk -l
[06:23] <ceil420> FastZ, i looked through the list of modified/installed programs that i'm getting with my dist-upgrade to Hardy. "Install emacs22" was among the changes
[06:23] <Kurtis-> ndiswrapper hasn't worked for me, but ssb has been running
[06:23] <samliu> thats what happened to my card when I upgraded from feisty to gutsy
[06:23] <ripps> AndrianStrays: Do you have Compiz enabled?
[06:23] <unop> FastZ, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[06:23] <user11> !VMWARE
[06:23] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:23] <talcite> eugenebythesea: lspci -v. Tell us what chipset your wireless card is using
[06:23] <amirman84> pawbie: there's got to be a better way
[06:23] <AdrianStrays> ripps, yes.
[06:23] <jeffimperia1> i tried running the cdromupgrade md5 using terminal. the terminal comes up then disappears instantly.. what to do?
[06:23] <ceil420> FastZ, if you're asking why i mention it to you, it's because you also mentioned a new package in the install
[06:23] <eugenebythesea> talcite: i see. i'm on a bcm43-something card. not sure how to see the info on it?
[06:23] <LoLeN> when i reboot the pc i have to always type "modprobe ndiswrapper && depmod -a" to get my wireless to work, why is that??
[06:23] <gogeta> nickrud lol i cant even keep up
[06:23] <pawbie> amirman84: Probably, but I'm an efficiency guy myself...
[06:23] <talcite> eugenebythesea: lspci -v
[06:24] <LainIwakura> talcite: 2.6.24.-16-generic
[06:24] <nickrud> gogeta I don't try, I track a couple people at a time :)
[06:24] <unop> FastZ, i think it was fiesty when it was introducted, i can't be sure
[06:24] <^V^> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64312/
[06:24] <morphy> brb.. checking the new install guide I found if it works
[06:24] <ripps> AndrianStrays: It's my experience that Compiz pushes your hardware too much, try disabling it.
[06:24] <talcite> LainIwakura: that's using the new wireless stack. You should be using b43 if possible
[06:24] <eugenebythesea> talcite: here it is - BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n
[06:24] <FastZ> ceil420: oh, i couldnt tell ya why some packages are installed by default.  unop said something about the server version being a LAMP server installation by default.
[06:24] <mattycoze> amirman84 i get this from planet mirror; Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. (plus a whole load of "failed to fetch")
[06:24] <pawbie> LoLeN:  Check your restricted modules and see if it's set to load.
[06:24] <talcite> LainIwakura: what chipset is your wireless using?
[06:24] <samliu> hmm compiz only pushes your computer too much if you have a crappy gfx card...
[06:24] <talcite> LainIwakura: lspci -v
[06:24] <Shadow_X> anyone have problems upgrading today?
[06:24] <pawbie> samliu: And a pentium 133...
[06:24] <Shadow_X> other than the server being slow
[06:24] <samliu> lol
[06:24] <samliu> good point
[06:25] <talcite> eugenebythesea: oh... its one of those blasted draft-n cards...
[06:25] <LoLeN> pawbie: how do i check them?
[06:25] <Kurtis-> I just tried blacklisting ssb and b43. I'll try ndiswrapper by itself now
[06:25] <LainIwakura> talcite: Okay. Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> I downloaded the ISO for Hardy Heron and burned it to a CD...now, can that be used to upgrade Ubuntu Gutsy, or can I only do a full install with that...
[06:25] <unop> LoLeN, perhaps ndiswrapper isn't being loaded at boot .. make sure you have an entry for it in /etc/modules
[06:25] <talcite> eugenebythesea: let me look it up.
[06:25] <samliu> I have a quadro fx1400go :D
[06:25] <LoLeN> k ;)
[06:25] <pawbie> LoLeN: System -> Administration -> Restricted Modules (I think)
[06:25] <FastZ> unop: maybe it was...i'm not sure.  I havent done a fresh install on my server machine since dapper and it's been a LAMP server ever since.
[06:25] <nickrud> ^V^ did you get the question about showing me the output of   sudo fdisk -l ?
[06:25] <pawbie> I haven't used Ubuntu in a year...
[06:25] <gogeta> pawbie did you say p133
[06:25] <amirman84> mattycoze: i've gotten a similar thing before, i just ignored it like it was no big deal
[06:25] <eugenebythesea> talcite: it usually worked well previously in 7.10. i haven't tried it yet in 8.04
[06:25] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I never had this problem before.  Before I updated to Hardy, video works, graphics worked, no lines or anything.  I have trouble believing this is a hardware issue.  Furthermore, prior to using envy, compiz and videos worked fine.
[06:25] <ceil420> Shadow_X, i was, but it was because i had broken packages installed (in my case, a few language packs). i removed the offending packages, and i'm upgrading now :)
[06:25] <bullgard4> mc shows an entry prefixed with an exclamation mark (!). I found that this means a "stale symlink". What is a 'stale symlink'?
[06:25] <pawbie> gogeta: Ya!  I still have one.
[06:25] <Shadow_X> ceil420, nice, you goin from 7.10?
[06:25] <AdrianStrays> ripps, is there anyway I can just get rid of envy, and have Ubuntu install the driver it was originally using?
[06:25] <^V^> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64314/
[06:25] <amirman84> mattycoze: keep in mind i'm a total noob but my system is running extremely stable so far
[06:25] <gogeta> pawbie oh cant run ubuntu on that well if it has 64mb of ram i guess better with puppy or dsl
[06:25] <nickrud> bullgard4 a broken one? try looking at it with ls --color , if it's red it's broken
[06:26] <pawbie> gogeta: debian
[06:26] <LainIwakura> talcite: My ifconfig, iwconfig, lshw -C network, lspci, and lsmod are here, if that helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4785960#post4785960
[06:26] <gogeta> pawbie yea but it will be slow
[06:26] <ceil420> Shadow_X, yeah. solely because i wanna update libconfuse so i can install awesome wm (i can't install the lib from source for some reason)
[06:26] <jeffimperia1> newbie finally got it... woohoo!
[06:26] <hellmitre> heya kids
[06:26] <tannewt> hi all, how do I add a script to run oon suspend and resume?
[06:26] <pawbie> gogeta: Not really.  Debian + AMP + VNC + XFCE4...  happy.
[06:26] <unop> FastZ, looks like even dapper had it - http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html
[06:26] <kindofabuzz> I haven't tried this yet, but those of you that had Broadcom working in Gutsy and now broke in Hardy, and don't have access to a ethernet cable, try this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64313/  found in forums, may try it tomorrow
[06:26] <hellmitre> wondering how to run network manager
[06:26] <ceil420> when i get a new computer, i'm putting Debian Stable on this one and making it a server, anyway. but in the meantime, i'm still using Xubuntu
[06:26] <ripps> AndrianStrays: Use the envyng to remove your drivers and revert them to the radeon drivers
[06:26] <Shadow_X> ceil420, heh i'm upgrading for several reasons. but of course, they always say its the best version ever. then again, any developer says that :P
[06:27] <FastZ> unop: if i remember correctly, you had the option at initial installation to install the LAMP server...or a regular server
[06:27] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: Well other people are saying that b43 should be used
[06:27] <nick_> hello
[06:27] <harriseldon> hellmitre: nm-applet
[06:27] <ceil420> Shadow_X, lol, gotta try and get their product out there :p
[06:27] <hellmitre> that's the applet, yeah, but whenever I run that, I get nothing
[06:27] <Kurtis-> oh, lovely
[06:27] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: you can't get the b43 if you don't have internet access
[06:27] <FastZ> unop: regular server being one without the AMP part of the LAMP install
[06:27] <nick_> Ubutu 7,1 is cooll
[06:27] <hellmitre> nothing goes into the panel
[06:27] <talcite> eugenebythesea: your card isn't supported by b43 yet. I'd say stick with ndiswrapper for awhile longer until they release support. Keep looking every few months though. Ndiswrapper is a sub-optimal solution
[06:27] <unop> FastZ, well, if you install and use tasksell , you have the option on any ubuntu/debian machine :)
[06:27] <KyleK> ceil420: im running ubuntu on my server :) but its just personal server
[06:27] <nick_> where can i start learning more about ubunut
[06:27] <james_>  anyone here got a kworld atsc 110?
[06:27] <Kurtis-> FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied
[06:27] <nick_> i just got it
[06:27] <nickrud> ^V^ my suspicion is that the there's a difference between the contents of /boot on the root partition, and the contents of the /boot partition. Try looking at menu.lst with /boot mounted, and without
[06:27] <unop> FastZ, s/tasksell/tasksel/
[06:27] <Shadow_X> ceil420, yea. and i LOVE the way they are selling this one "all OS's come with things you'll never use. ubuntu 8.04 comes with an uninstall feature" LOL
[06:27] <allyunion> I have a weird problem with my Toshiba U200 laptop, if I mute the sound in Windows, reboot and enter into Ubuntu, the sound doesn't work (even though I have everything set max for all controls)
[06:27] <Johnny_> hi i am having a problem and need some help
[06:28] <ceil420> FastZ, a LAMP server is more or less 'regular'. i don't know why it'd be without the 'A' part, seeing as Apache rocks (and is probably the most ubiquitous server software out there)
[06:28] <eugenebythesea> talcite: i see. well its not critical, cos i have no wifi at the moment so.. i'll do that =)
[06:28] <Kurtis-> got that when I issued modprobe ndiswrapper && depmod -a
[06:28] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I hit uninstall ATI driver in the EnvyNG gui, but how do I reinstall the original raedon drivers?
[06:28] <Kurtis-> as root
[06:28] <Johnny_> can someone please help me
[06:28] <samliu> allyunion, you need audio drivers
[06:28] <eugenebythesea> talcite: thanks for confirming for me =)
[06:28] <ceil420> lol Shadow_X; that's awesome XD
[06:28] <harriseldon> hellmitre do you get console output? can you check if the process is already running?
[06:28] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: I have b43 working already. It comes with the disc.
[06:28] <pawbie> ceil420: tomcat!
[06:28] <talcite> eugenebythesea: no problem
[06:28] <LainIwakura> not working, but I mean it's installed
[06:28] <mikebot> Why is it that when I tried to install from the alterate CD, it seems like the upgrader is still fetching files from this internet?
[06:28] <allyunion> samliu: I have snd-hda-intel installed
[06:28] <hellmitre> it does nothing. absolutely blank console when I run it in terminal, harriseldon
[06:28] <samliu> hmm
[06:28] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: well i sure wish you'd write a guide, i'm sure thousands would aprreciate it
[06:28] <ceil420> KyleK, mine's personal as well; file server, web site host (perhaps two sites in the future), IRC bot, mebbe a coupla other things
[06:28] <Kurtis-> well, got no error that time, but it's still not working
[06:29] <talcite> LainIwakura: your chipset is supported by b43. Not b43-legacy. b43
[06:29] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: -_- ill give your method a try
[06:29] <pawbie> ceil420: squid is a must.
[06:29] <FastZ> ceil420: nowadays sure, but before, you had to install all the components of a LAMP server on your own, then came the LAMP server installer option...
[06:29] <allyunion> samliu: And when I do have the audio set to max in Windows, and reboot, the audio works fine in Ubuntu
[06:29] <ceil420> pawbie, squid?
[06:29] <harriseldon> nick_ http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/ has some screecasts which may help
[06:29] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work
[06:29] <Johnny_> what do i do
[06:29] <pawbie> ceil420: squid proxy.  Check it out.
[06:29] <Shadow_X> w00t i'm upgrading!!!
[06:29] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: well how did you get your's working?
[06:29] <cob> Lainlwakura: looks like ndiswrapper is loaded in kernel, did you upgrade to hardy or fresh install?
[06:29] <Shadow_X> im nervous though. last time i upgraded my server....it failed to boot again >.>
[06:29] <talcite> LainIwakura, eugenebythesea: http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43
[06:29] <Johnny_> some1 help me
[06:29] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: no it's not
[06:29] <eugenebythesea> talcite: cheers
[06:29] <bullgard4> nickrud: Yes, it shows the pathname and filename red with a black background.
[06:29] <kindofabuzz> oh thought you said it was
[06:29] <ceil420> FastZ, i still don't have MySQL or PHP installed :x i need to find a use for a database so i can learn MySQL. Of course, the 'P' in LAMP for me means Perl ;)
[06:29] <Shadow_X> Johnny_, whats up?
[06:29] <ripps> AdrianStrays: just a sec
[06:29] <pawbie> Shadow_X: If everything went right the first time, it wouldn't be near as interesting.
[06:29] <james_> Shadow_X, too bad you can't remove somethings
[06:29] <talcite> granted, the updates on that site will be a few months newer than the ones in the repo
[06:29] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:29] <nickrud> bullgard4 so for mc, stale link means broken link
[06:30] <LainIwakura> talcite: am i not using b43?
[06:30] <Kurtis-> LainIwakura: Were you the one also using bcm4311?
[06:30] <LainIwakura> Kurtis- yes
[06:30] <pawbie> ceil420: Insert, select, drop, delete, optimize.  You know sql now.
[06:30] <bullgard4> nickrud: Thank you very much for explaining.
[06:30] <Kurtis-> I'm using revision 2
[06:30] <harriseldon> hellmitre what about output from nm-tool?
[06:30] <ceil420> pawbie, i'll hopefully remember that after i upgrade; while upgrading i only wanna run xchat and conky (so no terminal or firefox)
[06:30] <allyunion> pawbie: LOL
[06:30] <mikebot> How do I use the alternate CD?
[06:30] <ripps> AdrianStrays: Try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-radeon
[06:30] <ceil420> pawbie, lol
[06:30] <jim_beam> does anyone know if i deed to re-install ati drivers after 7.10 to 8.04 upgrade
[06:30] <Kurtis-> that says that it needs a patch for kernel 2.6.24
[06:30] <Kurtis-> what sort of a patch?
[06:30] <amirman84> is there any way to transfer my wubi install to a real one?
[06:30] <nickrud> bullgard4 haven't used mc for a while, nice piece of software, no?
[06:30] <Shadow_X> i think my server issue was from lack of knowledge of linux. im sure i couldve fixed it had I tried
[06:30] <pawbie> amirman84: dd
[06:30] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:30] <amirman84> pawbie: dd?
[06:31] <hellmitre> harriseldon: says I'm connected via eth0 (wired)
[06:31] <kindofabuzz> they shouldn't have relesedhardy until wireless worked for all.  especially if it worked in gutsy and now it doesn't
[06:31] <pawbie> amirman84: man dd
[06:31] <cob> Johnny_: how long did you wait?
[06:31] <amirman84> oh ok
[06:31] <AdrianStrays> ripps, it was unable to lock the admin directory
[06:31] <mattycoze> amirman84 aha! success, it installed nicely
[06:31] <mattycoze> amirman84 and happens to be working
[06:31] <Johnny_> cob awhile
[06:31] <pawbie> kindofabuzz: 2 words.  Screw Broadcom
[06:31] <Johnny_> over 10 mins
[06:31] <nickrud> jim_beam 8.04 has the latest driver from ati already, no need to install the one from the website
[06:31] <ceil420> Shadow_X, i just set up my apache server a long time ago with some basic options and never touched it again :p it just starts up with my computer
[06:31] <Kurtis-> Still can't get my chip to work
[06:31] <Shadow_X> jim_beam, i would think not. although im not sure. i expect the upgrade tool would handle packages with no problem. however, if you have problems with X afterwards, I would advise you to reinstall them then
[06:31] <AdrianStrays> ripps, nevermind
[06:31] <amirman84> mattycoze: awesome, i'm glad you were saved of the headaches i went through
[06:31] <kindofabuzz> pawbie: well i like Linksys
[06:31] <LainIwakura> talcite: I have b43-fwcutter installed already
[06:31] <talcite> LainIwakura: I thought you said you were using ndiswrapper?
[06:31] <pawbie> kindofabuzz: Screw linksys, too.  Atheros ftw.
[06:31] <jim_beam> thanks
[06:31] <LainIwakura> talcite: no i wasn't
[06:31] <talcite> LainIwakura: and have you loaded fw onto the card?
[06:32] <AdrianStrays> ripps, okay I did that.  Restart?
[06:32] <bullgard4> nickrud: I like mc very much. Particularly for its clear arrangement and small footprint.
[06:32] <LainIwakura> talcite: How do I do that?
[06:32] <adil> kk
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> pawbie: never heard of Atheros
[06:32] <talcite> LainIwakura: http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware
[06:32] <Johnny_> can some1 help me please
[06:32] <nickrud> bullgard4 yes, and it's great for looking inside deb packages when your gui is broken ;)
[06:32] <Shadow_X> ceil420, yea, i was running ubuntu for the server. its an apache and file server. i tried upgrading, and it failed to boot so idk. im nervous about this upgrade :P
[06:32] <talcite> LainIwakura: the nice thing about wireless is that its more or less the same across the distros
[06:32] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:32] <pawbie> kindofabuzz: Google ubiquiti wireless.  Best cards ever.
[06:32] <Kurtis-> talcite: know what it means about the patch needed for 2.6.24?
[06:32] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:32] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:32] <FloodBot2> Johnny_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <talcite> LainIwakura: you can probably take that info as-is
[06:32] <samliu> usually when I upgrade I completely remove my lamp and reinstall it
[06:33] <talcite> LainIwakura: let me look into it
[06:33] <Johnny_> srry
[06:33] <samliu> cause its not really a hassle
[06:33] <Johnny_> can some1 please help m
[06:33] <Johnny_> e
[06:33] <AdrianStrays> ripps, restart?
[06:33] <harriseldon> hellmitre then at least network manager itself is working, just not the applet
[06:33] <LainIwakura> talcite: I'm a little confused but I will give that link a try.. thanks
[06:33] <nickrud> Johnny_ no one is sure, have you run the disk check on the startup menu
[06:33] <XceII> try a reburn Johnny_
[06:33] <Kurtis-> LainIwakura: Which revision are you using of that chipset?
[06:33] <bullgard4> nickrud: May God give that my GUI does not break.
[06:33] <amirman84> pawbie: i kind of frigured i would be copying files over but which folders do i need and which folders should i totally NOT copy?
[06:33] <ceil420> Shadow_X, i'm kinda nervous because i haven't backed anything up; i'm hoping i won't have any problems :x
[06:33] <LainIwakura> kurtis- rev 1
[06:33] <Johnny_> nick i cant nothing works
[06:33] <cupajoe> Oh my, well I hope to be heard above all this noise XD. Hi I have a quick question, I just installed Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work. I'm a generally advanced user though treat me like a basic one because this is my first time using Ubuntu
[06:33] <samliu> Johnny_ try using the alt disk
[06:33] <Kurtis-> damn
[06:33] <Johnny_> when i hit enter
[06:33] <ceil420> wish i had a nice external HDD to back stuff up on :x
[06:33] <samliu> I think I remember something similar
[06:33] <kindofabuzz> talcite: i tried to follow that site but when i run make, i get alot of errors, and my hardy is not onliine to get the packages required to fix those errors, someone needs to make a deb of that page
[06:33] <Pradalvr> Hello ! i need some help here ..i need to partition my hard drive and don't know how
[06:33] <nickrud> Johnny_ reboot, and run the diskcheck
[06:33] <Johnny_> what is the alt disk
[06:33] <pawbie> amirman84: Ah, no, just use dd.  Boot the wubi install, prepare a partition on a physical disk, then dd if=wubipartition of=mynewpartition and walk away for a while.
[06:33] <Shadow_X> lol im already having problems. the upgrader complains about unsupported packages and stops >.>
[06:33] <mikebot> Is #ubuntu-offtopic a channel for ONLY off-topic discussion, or it allows off-topic discussion?
[06:34] <samliu> alternative version
[06:34] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: are you also using bcmxxxx?
[06:34] <ripps> AndrianStays: Always
[06:34] <samliu> uh
[06:34] <samliu> h/o
[06:34] <Shadow_X> they need more repository servers :P
[06:34] <^V^> nickrud: there isa  difference. It shows the old menu.lst
[06:34] <hellmitre> ah!
[06:34] <talcite> LainIwakura: sorry, what did you mean by kernel patches? you shouldn't need to install any others
[06:34] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: well i'm on gutsy now
[06:34] <hellmitre> fixed it, harriseldon
[06:34] <hellmitre> thanks!
[06:34] <pawbie> amirman84: you could also using something like g4u or whatever the other Ghost4Linux package is.  Or you could even use ghost.
[06:34] <nickrud> ^V^ it? you mean, the /boot partition?
[06:34] <^V^> yes
[06:34] <bcgrown> anybody know how I can make my geforce fx 5500 show the entire screen on tv-out instead of just the top left corner?  I am using nvidia-glx-new drivers and twinview
[06:34] <Kurtis-> talcite: I was the one who mentioned kernel patches
[06:34] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:34] <LainIwakura> talcite: i don't recall mentioning that... ?
[06:34] <^V^> nickrud: the boot partition has not been updated
[06:34] <Pradalvr> I have two separate hard drives..one for windows and the other for Ubuntu
[06:34] <amirman84> pawbie: i'm really confused
[06:34] <Shadow_X> anyone know how to upgrade from the alternate cd?
[06:34] <seamus7> Pradalvr when you install Ubuntu it offers to set up your partitions ... you could also use GParted from the Live CD (I think it's on there)
[06:34] <ricree> can anyone help me with a keyboard problem?  My num lock no longer seems to work after the upgrade
[06:35] <Kurtis-> talcite: "# bcm4311 rev 2 / bcm4312 (needs patches for 2.6.24) "
[06:35] <supersako> is it still better to use envy or is the ubuntu restricted drivers better now??
[06:35] <talcite> kindofabuzz: you probably have unsatisfied dependencies.
[06:35] <wayne_> woooo I love Hardy!!!!
[06:35] <jim_beam> is there a link for64bit kernel
[06:35] <supersako> i love Hardy more!
[06:35] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:35] <pawbie> amirman84: Hm.  You have a wubi install, and want to put it on a physical disk, yes?
[06:35] <kindofabuzz> talcite: i know i do, it's a fresh install of Hardy
[06:35] <nick_> Can anyone sugeest a good media player for ubuntu for all my music and that
[06:35] <ricree> although the keyboard light turns on when I do hit the numlock key
[06:35] <DShepherd> supersako, no need for envy
[06:35] <ceil420> Shadow_X, that sounds about like what i had. check the /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log (i think that's the one) and see which packages are failing. i only had four files in that folder (and one of them was blank), so it won't take too long to go through them all :p
[06:35] <gogeta> supersako envy = bad
[06:35] <Shadow_X> nick you can try songbird
[06:35] <amirman84> pawbie: the wubi install i'm using resides in the partition that i want to copy it to
[06:35] <supersako> cool
[06:35] <pawbie> Johnny_: Try hitting space, or click, or tab.  Or download and burn again.
[06:35] <PFC_Tabasco> supersako: I got nvidia_glx_new to work without a lot of trouble, but sadly it wasn't nearly as easy as 7.10
[06:35] <seamus7> nick_ Amarok
[06:35] <kindofabuzz> talcite: but i can't satisfy those dependancies cause not online
[06:35] <eugenebythesea> hi - for hardy, should i use ndiswrapper version 1.9? i want to know if that is the latest one
[06:35] <wayne_> while 1 { me.truelove(Hardy); }
[06:35] <ricree> nick_: I prefer rhythmbox, others like amarok
[06:35] <amirman84> pawbie: yeah, that's it
[06:35] <Johnny_> i burned twice
[06:35] <pawbie> amirman84: Oh.  Good luck.  You can dd to a network location and then restore from there?
[06:35] <supersako> Tabasco what do u have to do?
[06:35] <nickrud> ^V^ ok,  Me, I'd mount it at /mnt and simply copy over all the stuff in boot on the root to the /boot partition
[06:35] <nick_> how do i get amarok
[06:36] <ceil420> eugenebythesea, does ndiswrapper not have a website to tell you the latest version?
[06:36] <LainIwakura> same.. i can't get online to apt-get
[06:36] <Pradalvr> seamus7 I'm there and don't know how to use it
[06:36] <gogeta> Johnny_: md5 iso make shure its not bad
[06:36] <pawbie> nick_: apt-get install amarok ?
[06:36] <ricree> nick_: synaptic or apt-get
[06:36] <supersako> amirman hehe i knew an amir from los angeles that was born in 84 :p
[06:36] <Baxtor> Hey guys, ive just received an IDE HDD from a friend (crappy 20gig one) so i can load some stuff on there for him, how does one change the owner of the drive so i can delete the items currently on there and reformat it into a diffrent file system using ubuntu?
[06:36] <pawbie> nick_: Try exaile
[06:36] <ceil420> nick_, ewwww KDE. but yeah, apt-get works
 i don't know
[06:36] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: did you try that method i posted?
[06:36] <Johnny_> what is md5 iso
[06:36] <nick_> so whats the best
[06:36] <pawbie> Baxtor: Just reformat it.  No need to do the other steps.
[06:36] <amirman84> pawbie: so is dd or ghost basically creating an image of my disk?
[06:36] <nick_> haha
[06:36] <ceil420> eugenebythesea, google is your friend :)
[06:36] <gogeta> Baxtor just format it
[06:36] <nickrud> !md5sum | Johnny_
[06:36] <ubotu> Johnny_: To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[06:36] <mikebot> Can someone help me with te alternate CD?
[06:36] <cupajoe> Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?
[06:36] <nickrud> !who | Johnny_
[06:36] <ubotu> Johnny_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:36] <Kurtis-> I prefer KDE myself and am actually using Kubuntu, but my problem isn't Kubuntu-specific.
[06:36] <PFC_Tabasco> supersako: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment your restricted repos, apt-get update and then go the the Hardware Drivers option in System->Administration
[06:36] <Shadow_X> Baxtor, i believe using GParted would solve those issues
[06:36] <Baxtor> can you just use Gparted?
[06:36] <seamus7> Pradalvr: are you dual booting with Windows or installing Ubuntu on a maching by itself?
[06:36] <pawbie> amirman84: Ya.  The trick with the wubi bit, though, is that you need to boot wubi to "see" your wubi install.
[06:36] <amirman84> supersako: i was born in 84 but in Iran
[06:36] <gogeta> Baxtor yep
 hm. i could find out about that - but what i really want to know - if .. is that version suitable for hardy?
[06:36] <Baxtor> cheers
[06:37] <talcite> kindofabuzz: I see. I doubt we'll get a .deb for it soon though. I don't think there's anything you can do in the mean time
[06:37] <Johnny_> thanx for the afvice
[06:37] <ceil420> eugenebythesea, hmm. try apt-cache showpkg ndiswrapper <=- i think that's the command to show you Ubuntu's current version of the package
[06:37] <Johnny_> srry i am new to irc
 cool =) thanks for that
[06:37] <ceil420> np
[06:37] <Johnny_> pawbie: i am not sure what ti di
[06:37] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: i'm not sure how to configure ndiswrapper though. i had no problem with fwcutter in gutsy
[06:37] <dystopianray> what version of fglrx does hardy have?
[06:37] <kindofabuzz> talcite: i think i tried to make a deb from gutsy but i don't think it worked
[06:37] <talcite> Kurtis-: I'm not sure which patch its referring to. We're on a pretty recent version of 2.6.24. Have you tried b43 with the firmware?
[06:38] <gogeta> dystopianray i dunno ask google :P
[06:38] <nickrud> Johnny_ no problem If I may, I'd suggest you use   xchat   for irc, works better out of the box than pidgin does
[06:38] <Baxtor> ahh... unmount the drive so you can re-format it.. silly baxtor *duh*
[06:38] <Kurtis-> I downloaded the b43-fwcutter package
[06:38] <amirman84> pawbie: when i was looking at where wubi is installed from windows i noticed that there are quite a few ISO's it seems like i should be able to install ubuntu brand new on the partition and restore my system from those ISOs... is that possible?
[06:38] <Kurtis-> and that didn't work
[06:38] <Kurtis-> I'll try compiling it myself, I guess
[06:38] <talcite> eugenebythesea: Ndiswrapper's latest version is 1.52 as of a few weeks ago
[06:38] <cupajoe> I have a quick question, I just installed Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work. I'm a generally advanced user though treat me like a basic one because this is my first time using Ubuntu
[06:38] <harriseldon> cupajoe what have you tried so far? What is your sound hardware?
[06:38] <backharlow> anyone know how to fix system after Heron dist upgrade dies in the middle?
[06:38] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64313/ then rebott, i can't try it yet because i haven't upgraded yet
[06:38] <mikebot> Or is there a help page for the alternate CD?
[06:38] <pawbie> amirman84: I don't know.  Try it and let me know if it works.
[06:38] <Johnny_> i am on a mac and am using colloquy
[06:38] <ezzieyguywuf> Do i need to install xgl-xserver in order for compiz to work?
[06:38] <samliu> actually Johnny_, chatzilla for firefox is good for beginners also
[06:38] <talcite> eugenebythesea: I don't know if its in the repos yet.
[06:38] <samliu> :)
[06:38] <SecretGirl> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop from an external CDROM but the installation stops at 90% on "Loading module "aec62xx" for IDE chipset support", any ideas how to fix this
[06:38] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: ok let me try that
[06:38] <cupajoe> Umm, it's an integrated sound card into the laptop
[06:38] <eugenebythesea> talcite: i see.. thanks!
[06:39] <Johnny_> ok this is to everyone: I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:39] <cupajoe> To tell you the truth I don't remember the hardware off the top of my head, hold on
[06:39] <harriseldon> cupajoe are you installing hardy?
[06:39] <Johnny_> ok this is to everyone: I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do PLEASE JUST HELP
[06:39] <cupajoe> Harriseldon: yes sir
[06:39] <samliu> Johnny_ you have to stop flooding
[06:39] <samliu> we know your problem
[06:39] <samliu> I'm looking for the link to the alt disk
[06:39] <pawbie> Johnny_: Do you have friends you can talk to in person?
[06:39] <samliu> this is really weird cause its not on the list haha
[06:39] <pawbie> samliu: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[06:39] <Johnny_> not about this
[06:39] <samliu> ah yeah
[06:39] <nickrud> Johnny_ when you say you hit enter, you mean you can't even boot up and run the disk check?
[06:39] <mikebot> samliu: Can you answer questions regarding the alt cd?
[06:39] <samliu> thats it
[06:39] <Johnny_> no one knows comps
[06:39] <amirman84> pawbie: good call, i think i'm just going to try it out, if i lose this system that would suck but unless they get that LMVP tow ork with 8.04 i don't have many good options
[06:39] <samliu> johnny_, click that, download it etc
[06:39] <nick_> why doe ubuntu work better than windwos
[06:40] <Johnny_> nick rud: yes
[06:40] <cupajoe> It's a realtek ALC262 I believe
[06:40] <Johnny_> nickrud: i cannot get anything to run
[06:40] <RoAkSoAx> how to reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:40] <drivetrax> learning here.. how to have synaptic get my file
[06:40] <samliu> no its just that I remember having a similar problem and using the alt disk solved it
[06:40] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I did what you said, and videos work now.  However, the resolution is screwed up and compiz was off.  Restarted compiz and was prompt to install ATI Accelerated Drivers, I'm going to restart now and see if the resolution is better
[06:40] <ezzieyguywuf> do i need to install xgl-xserver in order for compiz to work?
[06:40] <nickrud> Johnny_ you need to be more specific. What is anything?
[06:40] <amirman84> nick_; because it's foundation is an open source code
[06:40] <mlw1> Hey, thanks for everyone who is answering questions I have another:  My monitor runs at 1920x1200, and I'm able to select that, but upon logging out, it defaults back to 1680x1050, and I can't figure out how to change this
[06:40] <gogeta> Johnny sounds like a bad iso chceck the md5
[06:40] <nick_> o ok
[06:40] <Armored_Azrae1> Hey, does anyone know how to get evolution to use kerberos tokens?
[06:40] <Shadow_X> nick_ its in the design of linux itself. its Unix based. so its built securely from the ground up. its a difficult thing to explain unless you have a solid foundation in computer/network security
[06:40] <samliu> if it isn't the bad iso, I think it might have to do with either ram or if its an old computer
[06:40] <^V^> nickrud: thanks
[06:40] <samliu> what kind of system do you have johnny_
[06:40] <nickrud> ^V^ all good?
[06:40] <Johnny_> nickrud: when i hit enter nothing runs at all not even the check
[06:40] <nick_> when i search up amarok in packet manager theres heaps f different aarok packages what one should i install
[06:41] <pawbie> Armored_Azrae1: That would be awesome.  Let me know if you figure it out.
[06:41] <RoAkSoAx> how to reconfigure xserver-xorg??? what parameters should i use in dpkg-reconfigure "parameters" xserver-xorg???
[06:41] <zero> is there any way to get conky embedded to my deskotp like it is in DSL or puppy?
[06:41] <ceil420> drivetrax, run the synaptic program. it's a graphical installer; pretty easy. right click on a package you want and select 'Mark for Installation', then when you're done, click "Apply" at the top
[06:41] <pawbie> nick_: The one that just says "amarok"
[06:41] <SecretGirl> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop from an external CDROM but the installation stops at 90% on "Loading module "aec62xx" for IDE chipset support", any ideas how to fix this
[06:41] <Armored_Azrae1> Damn. I tried selecting gssapi, but it doesn't seem to get the picture :P
[06:41] <^V^> nickrud: about to reboot and find out ;) but this is an annoying bug in (k)ubuntu
[06:41] <DShepherd> Johnny_, have you verified the md5sum for the ISO that you downloaded?
[06:41] <pawbie> SecretGirl: Try noacpi ?
[06:41] <talcite> Johnny_: Check the MD5 hash of your CD. It may have been burned incorrectly
[06:41] <drivetrax> thanks
[06:41] <nick_> pawbie cheers
[06:41] <zero> SecretGirl, boot with acpi and apm off
[06:41] <SecretGirl> whats that?
[06:41] <pawbie> SecretGirl: Better yet - google for the make and model of your laptop and see if anyone else has tried it before.
[06:41] <Johnny_> dshepard: i cannot dind the md5 check for the mac
[06:41] <mikebot> samliu: Or any page that talks about the alt cd?
[06:41] <Shadow_X> is there anyway to do a "normal" install of KDE without ubuntu becoming Kubuntu?
[06:41] <ezzieyguywuf> do i need to install xgl in order for compiz to work?
[06:42] <cupajoe> The sound doesn't work on my integrated speakers nor if I plug a pair of headsets in
[06:42] <pawbie> Shadow_X: You can install KDE from synaptic, and then change your session at the login screen.
[06:42] <zero> SecretGirl, i had this problem, just tyep boot acpi=off apm=off and it shoudl work, worked for me
[06:42] <nickrud> Johnny_ wow, it's probably in your terminal.  md5sum /path/to/iso
[06:42] <DShepherd> doesnt mac have md5sum ?
[06:42] <pawbie> Shadow_X: Try xfce4.
[06:42] <nick_> whats the difference between unix and linux
[06:42] <talcite> ezzieyguywuf: compiz should work almost out of the box
[06:42] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: what ubuntu version are you running and what video card?
[06:42] <zero> is there any way to get conky embedded to my deskotp like it is in DSL or puppy?
[06:42] <pawbie> nick_: A few letters.
[06:42] <Koheleth> morning
[06:42] <SecretGirl> zero, how do i do that
[06:42] <DShepherd> nickrud, ok, i thought so too
[06:42] <cupajoe> And I'm sure that my volume is up though I'm not quite sure if everything is configured correctly
[06:42] <kindofabuzz> l
[06:42] <samliu> oh God its hard to read things in this channel xD
[06:42] <ezzieyguywuf> hardy heron and I have a firegl V5200 (lenovo t60p)
[06:42] <nick_> pawbie haha sweet
[06:42] <cupajoe> (well obviously not because then I would hear sound
[06:42] <red_> hi..got a problem with my internet speed. downloading and web browsing is very slow. usually my speed is 20kbps now its 6kpbs sometimes below than that. any help pls...
[06:42] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: doesn't seem to work
[06:42] <nickrud> DShepherd I'm just guessing, but really ....
[06:42] <ceil420> zero, conky was designed to be embedded to the desktop. if it's not there when you run it, you're doing it wrong :o
[06:42] <Shadow_X> pawbie,  i know i can install kde. but when i did that a year ago, it "transformed" into kubuntu
[06:42] <DanaG> Heh, mirrors.kernel.org is still giving 560 kilobytes per second.
[06:42] <talcite> LainIwakura: how is the firmware loading coming?
[06:42] <DShepherd> nickrud, yeah.. really....
[06:42] <mlw1> can anyone tell me why my xorg changes don't go through?  I select 1920x1200 as my resolution in nvidia-settings, it works fine, I save it to xorg, that works, then I reboot, and the changes are gone
[06:43] <nick_> wish i could program so i could help make stuff
[06:43] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: i was thinking you may have to uncooment the b43xxx also
[06:43] <SecretGirl> zero, where do i type that
[06:43] <Koheleth> anyreason why Konversation takes a while to start in Hardy Heron?
[06:43] <zero> ceil420, its in a window on all my computers
[06:43] <Kurtis-> nick_: Unix isn't open source
[06:43] <Kurtis-> Linux is a clone of it
[06:43] <ezzieyguywuf> I'm getting that 'no composite extension available" error, which in the past was solved with xgl, but i think the other day someone said something about heron not needing it?
[06:43] <samliu> oh right
[06:43] <pawbie> mlw1: When I use the nvidia app, it doesn't actually write over xorg.conf....   Try hitting "Show Preview" and cut and pasting that into a new xorg.conf
[06:43] <zero> SecretGirl, its in the boot options of the CD to type that, hit f5 when you boot into the CD
[06:43] <samliu> mikebot
[06:43] <kindofabuzz> so you'd blacklist the two things but un blacklist bcm43xx
[06:43] <mikebot> samliu: Yes.
[06:43] <samliu> ah
[06:43] <ceil420> Kurtis-, many Unices are open source; OpenSolaris, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, etc
[06:43] <samliu> thats why
[06:43] <samliu> the alt CD doesnt have the live bootup
[06:43] <Kurtis-> Well, yeah
[06:43] <Kurtis-> But THE Unix isn't
[06:44] <mikebot> samliu: I'm sorry?
[06:44] <pawbie> samliu: No GUI.
[06:44] <ceil420> zero, weird :o i've never even seen it have a window of it's own. look at the .conkyrc's they have on the conky home page and see how they have theirs set up
[06:44] <samliu> right
[06:44] <red_> hi..got a problem with my internet speed. downloading and web browsing is very slow. usually my speed is 20kbps now its 6kpbs sometimes below than that. any help pls...
[06:44] <LainIwakura> talcite: no idea how to do it.. i'm really a novice
[06:44] <samliu> so it can install in situations the normal disk may come across issues
[06:44] <samliu> which is a good reason why Johnny_ should try it
[06:44] <talcite> LainIwakura: have you compiled a binary from source before?
[06:44] <samliu> unless people have better suggestions lol
[06:44] <ceil420> Kurtis-, Bell Labs' UNIX(R) isn't, no :p
[06:44] <Johnny_> ok does anyone have any advise
[06:44] <usser> nick_, i'd say different heritage, most unixes go way back whereas linux is a pretty recent thing
[06:44] <pawbie> talcite: What are binary?
[06:44] <Johnny_> that i will know how to do
[06:45] <zero> ceil420, what?
[06:45] <SecretGirl> zero, f5 is for accessibility options, is that the one
[06:45] <pawbie> Johnny_: samliu mentions trying the alt CD.  Did you try that?
[06:45] <ceil420> Kurtis-, and actually, i think their original Unix was open source. they went closed source later on (maybe as late as System V)
[06:45] <kindofabuzz> linux is only 10 years old
[06:45] <mikebot> Can someone hep me with upgrading from the alt CD?
[06:45] <Kurtis-> hmm
[06:45] <LainIwakura> talcite: i know how to type ./configure and make. does that count?
[06:45] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: i'm running hardy heron and I have an ATI V5200 video card
[06:45] <Johnny_> pawbie: binary is the language that the computer naturally understands it is made of 1 and 0s
[06:45] <Seveas> ceil420, nope, Bell Labs' Unix was always closed iirc
[06:45] <samliu> !tab Johnny_ pawbie provided the link earlier
[06:45] <Johnny_> pawbie: idk what u mean
[06:45] <pawbie> Johnny_: Hey!  Good job.
[06:45] <harriseldon> kindofabuzz 1991 was only 10 years ago?
[06:45] <samliu> er
[06:45] <talcite> LainIwakura: please don't forget which changes you make by the way. You'll have to undo them to test other methods.
[06:45] <samliu> lol
[06:45] <eugenebythesea> ceil420, talcite: the latest ndiswrapper in the repos is 1.50 - so i'll just go with that. blacklisting b43 and getting my driver now
[06:45] <SecretGirl> zero, f5 is for accessibility options, is that the one
[06:45]  * xepra needs help
[06:45] <talcite> LainIwakura: that's all you need
[06:45] <Kurtis-> LainIwakura: have you installed build-essential?
[06:45] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: both fglrx and the open source drivers support aiglx now
[06:45] <ceil420> zero, there are example .conkyrc files at http://conky.sourceforge.net - base your conkyrc on one of them and modify as necessary
[06:45] <xepra> Anyone know grub and mbr well?
[06:45] <Johnny_> pawbie: good job about what
[06:45] <LainIwakura> talcite: alright.. i'm going to give ndiswrapper a try first
[06:45] <pawbie> Johnny_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  Go there, find the link that says "alternative" for 8.04, and try that one.
[06:45] <samliu> xepra whats the problem
[06:45] <talcite> eugenebythesea: go ahead. 1.50 is fine
[06:45] <Seveas> Johnny_, watch out, I patented the 1!
[06:45] <zero> SecretGirl, its one of the f keys i cant remember exactly wich one
[06:45] <LainIwakura> Kurtis- Yes I installed that
[06:45] <Koheleth> xepra: whats up mate
[06:45] <samliu> I have some experience
[06:45] <nickrud> !md5 | Johnny_
[06:45] <ubotu> Johnny_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:45] <kindofabuzz> harriseldon: i could've sworn linux didn't relese the kernel until 1998
[06:45] <xepra> I am getting "error 22" on my grub
[06:46] <zero> thanks ceil420
[06:46] <kindofabuzz> linus#
[06:46] <xepra> I accidently told ubuntu server to write grub to mbr
[06:46] <Shadow_X> anyone know how to upgrade from the new alt cd?
[06:46] <xepra> I tried reinstalling, but it didn't work
[06:46] <MrObvious> I can't get b43-fwcutter to work quite right. My wireless is really slow and I'd like it to work.
[06:46] <Johnny_> there is no md5check for the mac
[06:46] <AdrianStrays> ripps, alright, everything appears to be in working order, and also, it seems like that line issue I was talking about was mysteriously resolved in the process.  What was that command you told me to use to get the driver?
[06:46] <Koheleth> xepra:  I am not a grub man
[06:46] <samliu> oh
[06:46] <samliu> super grub boot disk
[06:46] <ceil420> Seveas, maybe i was tired at the time and i'm thinking of something different, but i was recently reading about the history of Unix, and i think the earliest versions were open. That might have been before Bell took on the project, though
[06:46] <xepra> unfortunate
[06:46] <nickrud> Johnny_ ok, another link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM has exact instructions for the mac. First thing, check to make sure you have a good download
[06:46] <Koheleth> try googling it
[06:46] <dystopianray> kindofabuzz: linux was first released in 1991
[06:46] <samliu> it has an auto fix for that situation
[06:46] <kindofabuzz> MrObvious: how did you even get it to work? lol
[06:46] <talcite> LainIwakura: you'll probably have less chance of having ndiswrapper work. It has several bugs regarding WPA authentication
[06:46] <pawbie> xepra: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#21
[06:46] <samliu> hold on
[06:46] <mikebot> Or can anyone direct me to a FAQ or information page on the alt CD?
[06:46] <ceil420> np zero
[06:46] <harriseldon> kindofabuzz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel
[06:46] <ricree> is anyone able to help my out with a problem with my numlock activating?
[06:47] <ripps> AdrianStrays: Goto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:47] <LainIwakura> talcite: alright
[06:47]  * cupajoe raises hand
[06:47] <talcite> LainIwakura: look at http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-old
[06:47] <Koheleth> How do I edit Grub?
[06:47] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: ok, so I guess aiglx is better than xgl? How do I install this cuz currently I cannot enable compiz, I get "desktop effects could not be enabled" when I try to from system>>preferences>>appearence
[06:47] <AdrianStrays> Alright, thanks.  For the link and the help!
[06:47] <samliu> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[06:47] <Johnny_> the instructions wont work for it
[06:47] <Koheleth> !grub
[06:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:47] <talcite> LainIwakura: follow those instructions. It should work. Don't forget to un-blacklist b43
[06:47] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: what drivera re you using for your video card?
[06:47] <nickrud> Johnny_  md5 /path/to/iso , that doesn't work?
[06:47] <zero> SecretGirl, you get it?
[06:47] <LainIwakura> talcite: my question is this: isn't what is on that page already installed in hardy?
[06:47] <samliu> !xepra
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xepra - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <samliu> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[06:47] <Johnny_> nickrud: idk what the path is
[06:47] <kindofabuzz> harriseldon: my bad, i saw somehtin that was 10 years old this year and it mentioned Linus
[06:47] <talcite> pawbie: a binary is a program
[06:47] <samliu> please have a look :D
[06:47] <xepra> is there a way to remove grub from mbr completely?
[06:48] <Johnny_> i am on a mac and dont know how to check path
[06:48] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: What do you mean?
[06:48] <amirman84> so when i drag windows around, they are wobbly and awesome, is the compiz-fusion at work?
[06:48] <LainIwakura> talcite: Because I already have b43-fwcutter installed
[06:48] <pawbie> talcite: Fail. :\
[06:48] <samliu> download the disk, boot up, follow the screens
[06:48] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: I just did the restricted thingy and it worked.
[06:48] <samliu> its pretty straightforward
[06:48] <nickrud> Johnny_ the path is the file folder structure.
[06:48] <samliu> it'll rewrite your mbr and grub stuff
[06:48] <samliu> :D
[06:48] <Johnny_> nickrud: what does that mean
[06:48] <h00k> I am having a problem getting an external NTFS drive to automount in Hardy.  Gutsy automounted, but Hardy will not.
[06:48] <mikebot> samliu: Is that to me?
[06:48] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: I can't tell. In gutsy, I was prompted on my first boot up to install restricted drivers, but for Hardy I was not asked that, nor could I find the option in System>>administration. How can i check which driver I am using?
[06:48] <Johnny_> nickrud: can we private chat
[06:48] <harriseldon> kindofabuzz there is a good documentary called revolution os about linux history. it covers the 1999 time frame, but very good
[06:48] <kindofabuzz> MrObvious: most people can't even get b43cutter working at all, at least your is working
[06:48] <talcite> LainIwakura: no idea. I don't know what hardy installs by default. I would make sure you have the firmware installed just to be sure
[06:48] <gnuskoo1> my ubuntu hardy is slower than my xp install, what gives?How do i make sure my intel graphics card is running optimum, it's way too sluggish at the mo?
[06:48] <Johnny_> nickrud: to get rid of this clutter
[06:48] <samliu> no its to xepra sorry mikebot
[06:48] <samliu> lol
[06:48] <jhoc2x> hello to all.... ^_^ im back
[06:48] <talcite> LainIwakura: also, use the b43-firmware cutter from that page
[06:48] <kindofabuzz> harriseldon: yeah i been meaning to watch that
[06:49] <pawbie> yay, Grub error 21 again.
[06:49] <pawbie> hm
[06:49] <nickrud> Johnny_ I've never used a mac, so I can't tell you how the mac's file structure is laid out. But I'm sure there's some info on the mac sites
[06:49] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: I don't know. I have the bcm94311 chipset.
[06:49] <talcite> LainIwakura: it seems to be version specific
[06:49] <mikebot> nickrud: Do you know about the alt CD installation?
[06:49] <SecretGirl> f6 is for other options, i wrote what you said and hit enter, now its booting
[06:49] <SecretGirl> zero, what is the problem exactly?
[06:49] <samliu> gnuskoo1: disable advanced desktop effects
[06:49] <LainIwakura> talcite: ok i'll do that now
[06:49] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: hrrm i'm not entirely sure as xorg.conf no longer displays the driver in use
[06:49] <talcite> LainIwakura: alright. Good luck. I need to sleep. Exam tmr =/
[06:49] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: try running the restricted drivers thing manually
[06:49] <samliu> sorry guys I'm out to bed
[06:49] <LainIwakura> talcite: thanks
[06:49] <gnuskoo1> samliu: they arent even on, i get a compiz error when i try enable them
[06:49] <samliu> oh
[06:49] <samliu> hmm
[06:50] <samliu> sry I gtg
[06:50] <samliu> ttyl
[06:50] <Zasch> Hello. How do you upgrade by CD?
[06:50] <FloodBot2> samliu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <jhoc2x> !paste
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:50] <cupajoe> I have a quick question, I just installed Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work. I'm a generally advanced user though treat me like a basic one because this is my first time using Ubuntu. I am, however, sure that the volume is turned up in the software and not muted. I'm running on a laptop with integrated speakers, I believe it uses Realtek hardware. I don't know how to figure out what driver Ubuntu is using for it
[06:50] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: yea so i'm kinda stuck. I just did a clean install. the other day i upgraded from gutsy, and got compiz to work after installing xgl but it was sluggish and buggy, so i'm trying to find alternatices
[06:50] <Shadow_X> anyone know how to upgrade from the new alt cd?
[06:50] <Kurtis-> Okay, I'm going to have to edit menu.lst to cut the time from 10 seconds to 3 or something
[06:50]  * dsmith_ was able to avoide the new release this time yay! I downloaded 8.04 ahead of time and updated just now... Sweet
[06:50] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: I might have to ndiswrapper this stuff. :
[06:50] <supersako> i accidentally deleted my networking widget from the top right corner how do i get it back??
[06:50] <MrObvious> :\
[06:50] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: how do I run it manually if its not in my menu?
[06:50] <SecretGirl> zero, i'm at a command prompt, now what??
[06:50] <Peddy> can someone please tell me if there is any program for Gnome (gutsy) which allows you to change the volume for different apps?
[06:51] <jhoc2x> !filesystem
[06:51] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[06:51] <talcite> LainIwakura: oh one more thing. Check your system logs often when connection and modprobing modules. /var/log/messages in particular
[06:51] <pawbie> This freaky bird background has got to go.l
[06:51] <LainIwakura> talcite: ok
[06:51] <talcite> or kernel. Either may turn something up
[06:51] <Kurtis-> don't like the heron?
[06:51] <kindofabuzz> its a heron
[06:51] <jhoc2x> is it tux?
[06:51] <talcite> I think the heron's quite nice
[06:51] <harriseldon> Peddy: afaik, you would have to enable pulseaudio like hardy has installed.
[06:51] <talcite> anyways. night guys
[06:51] <kindofabuzz> heroin heron
[06:52] <Kurtis-> okay, what the hell, this still isn't working
[06:52] <backharlow> heron destroyed everything. i just lost a lot to the failed upgrade
[06:52] <supersako> uhh i just deleted my bars on the top right for the wireless networking how do i get it back?? :(
[06:52] <LainIwakura> Kurtis- this makes me want to go back to gutsy
[06:52] <tico> Hi I can install any extensions in firefox in 8.04, they all fail with an error
[06:52] <harriseldon> supersako run nm-applet (alt-f2 then type nm-applet)
[06:52] <kindofabuzz> backharlow: you didn't lose anything, all your personal shit is still on the hard drives
[06:52] <teban> hi
[06:52] <jhoc2x> LainIwakura: why?? is hardy not fine?
[06:52] <Kurtis-> Well, I'm afraid Gutsy never worked on this laptop
[06:52] <tico> cant*
[06:52] <supersako> no go harriseldom
[06:52] <SecretGirl> zero, i'm at a command prompt, now what??
[06:52] <nick_> many of you people make or work on programs for linux
[06:52] <r00723r0> I'm going to cry.
[06:52] <Kurtis-> did on my previous...
[06:53] <jhoc2x> Kurtis-: how so?
[06:53] <LainIwakura> jhoc2x: i'm sure it is.. i'm just having great difficulty setting up my wireless
[06:53] <Shadow_X> tico, the version if firefox that comes with 8.04 is beta 3. its still in beta testing so there are no extensions available yet
[06:53] <r00723r0> I just found the most beautiful theme ever but the matching icons won't work :(
[06:53] <teban> does anyone have a problem when moving windows to a new workspace with wobbly windows active in hardy?
[06:53] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: how can I run the restricted drivers thing manually?
[06:53] <r00723r0> Theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Brit?content=74553
[06:53] <personaco> hey guys, if i install this new version of ubuntu, can i enable all those fancy compiz and xgl effects straight away or do i have to fuss with it to make it work?
[06:53] <Kurtis-> jhoc2x: Couldn't ever get X to work right, even with the right drivers
[06:53] <kindofabuzz> nick_: most people here are just like you
[06:53] <r00723r0> Icons: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/area+o.42+SVG+icon+theme?content=78259
[06:53] <r00723r0> Could someone help?
[06:53] <Kurtis-> couldn't get it to start
[06:53] <mikebot> Has anyone ever heard of the alt cd?
[06:53] <harriseldon> supersako check with hellmitre. hellmitre had a similar problem and figured it out
[06:53] <Kurtis-> even installed a base command prompt system
[06:53] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: Hmm I'm gonna try this bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/188621
[06:53] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: i'm not sure how to do it on ubuntu, but in kubuntu it appears in the menus as 'hardware drivers manager'
[06:53] <ezzieyguywuf> ok
[06:53] <ezzieyguywuf> lemme check it out
[06:53] <tico> Is anyone having trouble installing extensions in firefox with 8.04?
[06:54] <kindofabuzz> MrObvious: yeah there are alot of bug reports with broadcom chips
[06:54] <pawbie> Ok, someone sanity check this for me.
[06:54] <Kurtis-> tico: Firefox 3.0 isn't compatible with most 2.0 extensions
[06:54] <Shadow_X> tico, the version if firefox that comes with 8.04 is beta 3. its still in beta testing so there are no extensions available yet
[06:54] <h00k> I am having a problem getting an external NTFS drive to automount in Hardy.  Gutsy automounted, but Hardy will not.
[06:54] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: its weird, becaus the ATI Fire GL driver is checked but it says not in use. what could cause that?
[06:54] <pawbie> /dev/sdc2 would be hd2,1  yes?
[06:54] <^V^> nickrud: ubuntu now works fine
[06:54] <personaco>  hey guys, if i install this new version of ubuntu, can i enable all those fancy compiz and xgl effects straight away or do i have to fuss with it to make it work?
[06:54] <nickrud> ^V^ cool
[06:54] <tico> Shadow_X: Im using firefox 2
[06:54] <supersako> hellmitre not here?
[06:54] <^V^> nickrud: although my windows boot option disappeared :/
[06:54] <SecretGirl> zero, i'm at a command prompt, now what??
[06:54] <Shadow_X> tico, did you remove ff3 and manually install 2?
[06:54] <nickrud> ^V^ what partition is your windows on?
[06:55] <eugenebythesea> tico: when u install add ons from mozilla's website - do look at the button "install now" - if says "this add on is for older versions of firefox" then... don't do it
[06:55] <LainIwakura> ok i have to sleep now. I'm having trouble setting up my wireless connection. Please take a look at my thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765938 Thank you!
[06:55] <tico> Shadow_X: Yes
[06:55] <virtuald> how do i install ubuntu from ubuntu?
[06:55] <tico> Shadow_X: Twice.
[06:55] <Villarroel> Hi.
[06:55] <eugenebythesea> tico: personally all my add ons in firefox are working fine
[06:55] <r00723r0> Could someone help?
[06:55] <kindofabuzz> tico, try a new profile, and the best place for firefox help:  forums.mozillazine.org
[06:55] <zelrikriando> my upgrade broke everything
[06:55] <karllenz> how can i see what i have shared on my mac osx?
[06:55] <tico> Shadow_X: k
[06:55] <harriseldon> supersako, last I told hellmitre was to run nm-tool from terminal I do not know if that fixed it
[06:55] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: i have no idea
[06:56] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: Yeah no kidding. I might just have to wait a while. :\
[06:56] <harriseldon> karllenz how did you share it?
[06:56] <ezzieyguywuf> ok guys, my ATI Fire GL driver is checked, but right next to the check box it says "not in use". What could be causing this?
[06:56] <karllenz> harriseldon: yes i have shared folders on my os x
[06:56] <jhoc2x> checked but not in use??? weird
[06:56] <kindofabuzz> help hardy broke my marriage, my left big toe, and my wallet! =)
[06:56] <^V^> nickrud: /dev/sdb
[06:56] <supersako> wasnt it harris :(
[06:56] <harriseldon> karllenz what mechanism did you use to share them? appletalk, cifs, etc
[06:56] <XceII> your wallet?
[06:56] <tico> eugenebythesea: Well yea, they should be working, but after it installs it give some error. Hoping to fix it now.
[06:56] <chew> wonder how many times has 8.04 been downloaded so far..
[06:56] <jhoc2x> lol.. wallet
[06:57] <matyy> sagt mal, kann ich mit powernowd eine Grenze für maximale Hertzzahl einstellen? z.B. um Strom zu sparen?
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> chew, torrent wise i saw over 5k seeders
[06:57] <nickrud> ^V^ according to your fdisk -l , you don't have a /dev/sdb ;)
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> and that's just the main install
[06:57] <matyy> sry wrong channel^^
[06:57] <chew> kindofabuzz: cool
[06:57] <harriseldon> supersako http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637090
[06:57] <zelrikriando> my ubuntu is broken :/
[06:57] <karllenz> harriseldon: i just dbl click the folder then hit get info the hit share folder
[06:57] <Kurtis-> I'm about to give up on 8.04 on my laptop if I can't get wireless to work.
[06:57] <Kurtis-> which is a shame...
[06:57] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: Yeah I think I'll wait until later for wireless.
[06:57] <mikebot> Can someone help me with upgrading from the alternate cd?
[06:57] <^V^> nickrud: can you paste the link for that?
[06:57] <MrObvious> Kurtis-: I hear you.
[06:57] <pawbie> Error 21 yet again.
[06:57] <pawbie> grr
[06:57] <dystopianray> Kurtis-: what wireless card do you have?
[06:57] <Kurtis-> I'll still put it on my desktop
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> Kurtis, yeah stick with gutsy, that's what i'm doing
[06:58] <Kurtis-> bcm4311 rev 2
[06:58] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64314/ ^V^
[06:58] <Kurtis-> Gutsy won't work for me on this one
[06:58] <dystopianray> Kurtis-: did you try ndiswrapper?
[06:58] <Kurtis-> it's too new
[06:58] <Kurtis-> I have
[06:58] <kindofabuzz> the ones that don't work
[06:58] <jhoc2x> Kurtis-: me too... ^_^
[06:58] <mikebot> Or can someone just give me a link to a page that has information regarding the alternate cd installation process?
[06:58] <Callipyginous> anyone else having trouble with the samba app?
[06:58] <nickrud> mikebot sorry, got sidetracked and forgot your question
[06:58] <kindofabuzz> mikebot, just put it in and follow directions
[06:58] <jhoc2x> i think it still needs time to jump to 8.04
[06:58] <Shadow_X> disregard my previous question as I found the answer :)
[06:58] <forevertheuni> bah..my upgrade app always freezes at the beggining
[06:58] <^V^> nickrud: hmm...it says hdb there but on my current fdisk -l it says sdb
[06:58] <forevertheuni> :/
[06:58] <nickrud> mikebot it is extremely simple, and self explanitory
[06:58] <karllenz> harriseldon: i see my mac in my network servers but there is nothing there
[06:59] <soreau> How come Hardware Drivers do not list nvidia card as it did with RDM in Feisty?
[06:59] <harriseldon> karllenz try using places connect to server -- try it as a windows share. I do not know what mechanism osx uses by default. you may want to find that out first
[06:59] <dystopianray> karllenz: then it must not be sharing anything
[06:59] <nickrud> ^V^ ah, you're using the hardy kernel now :)
[06:59] <mikebot> nickrud: It seems that at file 1085 of 1228 it starts downloading from the internet.
[06:59] <forevertheuni> what's the new line at sources.list to replace gutsy?
[06:59] <^V^> nickrud: yes :)
[06:59] <mikebot> nickrud: Instead of off the CD..
[06:59] <supersako> harris i tried that but its not the one that was there default
[06:59] <Shadow_X> just a quick question. where there any last minute updates made today after the official release?
[06:59] <nickrud> mikebot alt-f8 will show the install log, you can see for sure what it's doing
[06:59] <orven> is it normal that packages are showing as 'unauthenticated'?
[06:59] <kindofabuzz> i wonder if there's anyway to upgrade from the hardy iso?
[06:59] <dystopianray> Shadow_X: no
[06:59] <tico> Shadow_X: Yep working, deleted the profile...shoulda thought of that. Thanks.
[07:00] <dystopianray> Shadow_X: well not that i saw anyway
[07:00]  * MrObvious needs some sleep.
[07:00] <chx> is it just me or sudo is horribly broken as it displays my password?
[07:00] <mikebot> nickrud: Where/when do I press this?
[07:00] <Hadeshorn> Hi everyone! Im trying to install Hardy, but when it comes to the partition bit. my partitions dont show up and just shows the whole disk with no partitions. However in the live CD i can look thru my partitions with no problem
[07:00] <obf213> hey im getting this error when i try to open eclipse
[07:00] <SecretGirl> i'm installing ubuntu from an external cdrom, someone recommended booting with  acpi and apm off, i did that and now i'm at a command prompt. what should i do now
[07:00] <obf213> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[07:00] <obf213> must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
[07:00] <obf213> was found after searching the following locations:
[07:00] <obf213> /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java
[07:00] <FloodBot2> obf213: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <harriseldon> supersako, I do not know what applet you had before, sorry
[07:00] <h00k> I am having a problem getting an external NTFS drive to automount in Hardy.  Gutsy automounted, but Hardy will not.
[07:00] <nickrud> mikebot at any time
[07:00] <mikebot> nickrud: I'm running it from my desktop... should I boot from CD or something?
[07:00] <dystopianray> obf213: what jdk do you have installed?
[07:00] <obf213> openjdk 6
[07:00] <harriseldon> h00k what have you done so far to figure out what is happening?
[07:00] <nickrud> mikebot your last line does not compute ;)
[07:00] <dystopianray> obf213: edit /etc/eclipse/java_home
[07:00] <obf213> sorry about the flood i didnt think it would do the newline like that
[07:00] <supersako> harris, the one that comes with ubuntu LOL
[07:00] <supersako> its a different icon
[07:01] <nickrud> ^V^ a sec, I'll put together a stanza for you
[07:01] <dystopianray> obf213: put /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk at the top of the list
[07:01] <forevertheuni> ...in sources.list...shoul I replace gutsy by hardy?(the upgrade app hangs)
[07:01] <harriseldon> supersako I thought it was nm-applet, maybe it changed in hardy
[07:01] <supersako> could be??
[07:01] <supersako> i keep typing in nm-applet nothing happens
[07:01] <mikebot> nickrud: I mean, I thought that I would be installing from the CD, not downloading from the internet.. alt+f8 is not doing anything.
[07:01] <supersako> alt+f2 nm-applet
[07:01] <Hadeshorn> how do i change the permissions on a partition to me?
[07:01] <matyy> can I set limits for a AMD processor? (max ghz) if yes, with powernowd?
[07:01] <Koheleth> !grub
[07:01]  * cupajoe raises hand
[07:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:01] <nickrud> mikebot might be alt-f4
[07:01] <h00k> harriseldon: it's not showing up in /dev
[07:01] <harriseldon> supersako try nm-applet --sm-disable
[07:01] <nick_> Does ayone know much about kmplot
[07:01] <Hadeshorn> !chown
[07:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:02] <karllenz> dystopianray: i got it had to hit options and choose what i wanted
[07:02] <gnuskoo1> who has a working xorg.conf for a Intel Corporation
[07:02] <gnuskoo1> 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics card??
[07:02] <h00k> harriseldon: dmesg reports 'sdb' when i plug it in, but I cant manually mount because I don't see it in /dev/
[07:02] <mikebot> nickrud: That asked me if I wanted to cancel the upgrade... I'm running it right now./
[07:02] <mikebot> nickrud: I just put the CD in and clicked on `run upgrade'
[07:02] <supersako> ahhh i got it
[07:02] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I take that back...the lines and video issues returned when I reactive compiz
[07:02] <supersako> harris, i need to add notification area
[07:02] <saross0219> anyone good with wireless issues here?
[07:02] <harriseldon> h00k sdb is just the device, not the partition, you cannot mount just the device
[07:03] <nickrud> mikebot ah, you're upgrading, not doing a fresh instal
[07:03] <supersako> i freakn deleted the notification area ! :P
[07:03] <xepra> silly 8.04, won't set up grub right
[07:03] <h00k> harriseldon: there is no sdb1, sdb2 to mount either
[07:03] <dny> my sound keeps going out, and i have to reboot for it to start again.  is there a way to restart alsa or something? :/
[07:03] <pawbie> xepra: I seem to be having the same issue...  Error 21.
[07:03] <mikebot> nickrud: Correct.
[07:03] <xepra> I had a similar problem on desktop edition
[07:03] <soreau> Why would Hardware Drivers in Hardy not list an nVidia card as it did with RDM in Feisty?
[07:03] <xepra> but i was able to fix it, just had to change hd7 to hd0
[07:03] <mikebot> nickrud: And I'm confused as to why it is downloading from the internet instead of installing from the CD.
[07:03] <xepra> now its all fubar
[07:03] <dsop> does someone have problems with the framebuffer in hardy?
[07:03] <towlie> hi i ran update manager and hit check. im on 7.10 by the way. it says its downloading 26 files and i think theyre repository info but its not updating to 8.04
[07:03] <nickrud> mikebot yes, you have some packages that you downloaded from the net in gutsy, and are not on the cd. It has to go to the net to get those files
[07:04] <dsop> my inittab only displays white background
[07:04] <gnuskoo1> a working xorg.conf for Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics please, or where do i change this in te gui?
[07:04] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, can you help me or are your hands full?
[07:04] <harriseldon> h00k are there any errors in dmesg?
[07:04] <nickrud> AdrianStrays a sec, I'm stretched with 2. Be done with one as soon as I finish some editing
[07:04] <obf213> dystopianray: thanks
[07:04] <adil> asskum
[07:04] <mikebot> nickrud: Is there any way to bypass this process?
[07:04] <SecretGirl> i'm installing ubuntu from an external cdrom, someone recommended booting with  acpi and apm off, i did that and now i'm at a command prompt. what should i do now
[07:04] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, alright I'll wait
[07:05] <Moc> Anyone with flashing screen issues with nvidia drivers ?
[07:05] <Moc> only on the primary monitor (8600 gt)
[07:05] <Shadow_X> ok while attempting an upgrade I keep getting the error: "Unable to calculate upgrade" and the installer stops. any suggestions?
[07:05] <zenlunatic> any known problems with slow internet in hardy?
[07:05] <nickrud> mikebot none that I'm aware of. You could try unplugging your ethernet ;)
[07:05] <h00k> harriseldon: I know the drive is okay, and ->http://pastebin.com/m3e728ab
[07:05] <Kurtis-> zenlunatic: are you referring to the repositories?
[07:05] <mikebot> nickrud: Heh, ughhhhhh OK, thanks.
[07:05] <Zelta> Will upgrading to Hardy Heron ruin ndiswrapper?
[07:06] <milly1234> my wireless seems to have a weaker signal since upgrading to hardy.... but no slower wired connections
[07:06] <towlie> hi i ran update manager and hit check. im on 7.10 by the way. it says its downloading 26 files and i think theyre repository info but its not updating to 8.04
[07:06] <pawbie> Ok, now I'm totally confused.  I know for a fact this is on SATA channel 4, sdc.  But I can boot that disk with BIOS options and change root to hd(0,0) and it books?
[07:06] <zenlunatic> Kurtis-: no. just browsing ff
[07:06] <towlie> can someone help me out
[07:06] <Koheleth> wow, ubuntus way of managing grub is a bit in the dark ages
[07:06] <Kurtis-> I've not had any slow browsing experiences.
[07:06] <harriseldon> h00k it looks like you are getting io errors
[07:06] <jeffimperial> a little help with upgrading to Hardy, please?
[07:06] <harriseldon> h00k did you try any other usb ports to confirm that it is not a problem with the port?
[07:06] <zenlunatic> Kurtis-: thanks
[07:06] <seamus7> !ask
[07:06] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:06] <Koheleth> !upgrade
[07:06] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:06] <h00k> harriseldon: let me try...
[07:06] <milly1234> Kurtis-, congratulations
[07:07] <ChrisULM> got a problem with hardy, i have a panel with icons at the bottom of my desktop, but when i restart it moves the panel to the top. whats going on?
[07:07] <Zelta> Will upgrading to Hardy Heron ruin ndiswrapper?
[07:07] <towlie> i need help upgrading from 7.10 can anyone help me out
[07:07] <Kurtis-> A friend of mine got his card to work with ndiswrapper
[07:07] <Kurtis-> I can't, though
[07:07] <Shadow_X> towlie, the servers are being extremely slow today because of the new release. everyone is upgrading today, so the servers are under extreme stress. furthermore, after the check is finished, you need to click "upgrade" at the top of the update manager
[07:07] <seamus7> towlie: what's the problem?
[07:07] <SecretGirl> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop from an external CDROM but the installation stops at 90% on "Loading module "aec62xx" for IDE chipset support", any ideas how to fix this
[07:07] <nickrud> ^V^ I think http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64316/ should work, your drives all being seen as serial devices should remove all the sata/pata pain
[07:07] <Kurtis-> which is bothersome because he's an absolute n00b to Linux and I've been using it for a few years now
[07:08] <towlie> seamus7, i ran update manager hit check and it says its downloading 45 files. once it completes i hit check again and it does the same thing over and over again
[07:08] <nickrud> AdrianStrays now, ask me your question so I can probably say, 'no freaking clue' ;)
[07:08] <jeffimperial> I am using the cdromupgrade (Alternate CD) because I have very slow Internet Connection (ADSL). wanted to ask if why the method i'm using is still connecting to the internet..
[07:08] <cellofellow> this question is NOT ABOUT HARDY: should I set up the rsync daemon to use xinetd like this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync) says, or use a regular UNIX daemon? (I'm trying to get BackupPC working.)
[07:08] <grzyb> root@sextasy:/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/cs5535audio# insmod snd-cs5535audio.ko
[07:08] <grzyb> insmod: error inserting 'snd-cs5535audio.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[07:08] <grzyb> :D
[07:08] <Kurtis-> Okay, I'm giving up. I'll try Hardy on my laptop once others have actually had success, heh
[07:08] <Kurtis-> I'll just stick with it on my desktop
[07:08] <Arelis> Has the chat calmed down a bit?
[07:08] <nickrud> jeffimperial because you have installed stuff during gutsy that is still only available over the net
[07:08] <Arelis> so i can finally ask my question?
[07:08] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, so my issue was originally this.  Whenever I change screens or played videos, these vertical lines appeared all over my screen.  I posted on the ubuntu forums, someone suggested I use EnvyNG.  I did, and that made things worse.  The lines remained, and now I couldn't watch videos, nothing displayed.  I worked with ripps on here, and we were able to reverse some of the problem.  Videos now work and lines are gone when comp
[07:09] <h00k> harriseldon: no errors, but it does keep saying [  920.986234] usb 7-3: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[07:09] <Kurtis-> and I can't follow this chat. It's giving me a major headache. Too many users
[07:09] <Hadeshorn> why does my partitions not show up in gparted when using the hardy live cd?
[07:09] <towlie> seamus7, can i pm you
[07:09] <Kurtis-> 'night to the ones where it's actually night
[07:09] <Arelis> Kurtis-: still a busy chat, eh?
[07:09] <seamus7> towlie: sound like what others have said ... it's just not able to complete the download fully because of the load on servers at the moment ... might need to wait til tomorrow
[07:09] <Kurtis-> quite
[07:09] <jeffimperial> nickrud: any workaround so that Update Manager won't connect to the Internet?
[07:09] <seamus7> towlie: yes
[07:09] <Arelis> !party
[07:09] <ubotu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties
[07:09] <Kurtis-> I'm used to channels with a max of 50 users
[07:09] <Liquid-Silence> hmmm
[07:09] <Liquid-Silence> I just intalled the nvidia drivers
[07:10] <cellofellow> this question is NOT ABOUT HARDY: should I set up the rsync daemon to use xinetd like this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync) says, or use a regular UNIX daemon? (I'm trying to get BackupPC working.)
[07:10] <^V^> nickrud: thanks
[07:10] <Liquid-Silence> but I cant run dual monitors
[07:10] <markf> whu not using a torrent file?
[07:10] <nickrud> jeffimperial you can try disabling all your sources, except for the cdrom. It probably won't work, since you'd have some broken packages.
[07:10] <leonbrussels> SecretGirl: probably a malburnt CD. Try the check cd for defect option in the boot menu
[07:10] <Arelis> !party | Everybody, DO NOT IGNORE THIS MESSAGE
[07:10] <ubotu> Everybody, DO NOT IGNORE THIS MESSAGE: please see above
[07:10] <dsop> does someone have problems with the framebuffer in hardy?
[07:10] <h00k> harriseldon: now I disconnected the drive and got I/O errors again, unable to read partition table.  This isn't cool, I'll see what I can do
[07:10] <Kurtis-> anyway, bye
[07:10] <nickrud> ^V^ thank me if it works ;)
[07:10] <zelrikriando> how to make compiz work again on hardy
[07:10] <zelrikriando> ?
[07:10] <kimmey> I was running update-manager to update to hardy. When it update-manager started to remove old packages my power went down. How may I fix this?
[07:10] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, I'm using a Raedon Xpress 1100 card.  I've been having massive amounts of issues since upgrading, and in all honestly, I'm having trouble remembering all the things we've done.
[07:10] <jeffimperial> nickrud: how 'bout just turning off my modem? would the Upd. Mgr. still continue to work if i just unplug it?
[07:10] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: Doesn't it work?
[07:10] <Waffle> Arelis, what message are we not supposed to ignore?
[07:11] <SecretGirl> CD is fine
[07:11] <Nahi> can anyone help me in cpanel stuff i recently got a server and im trying to make users for cpanel
[07:11] <dny> my sound keeps going out, and i have to reboot for it to start again.  is there a way to restart alsa or something? :/
[07:11] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: lots of things got broken when I upgraded
[07:11] <nickrud> jeffimperial it'll try to download from the net, but get 404's. Then you can depend on breakage
[07:11] <cupajoe> I have a quick question, I just installed Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work. I'm a generally advanced user though treat me like a basic one because this is my first time using Ubuntu. I am, however, sure that the volume is turned up in the software and not muted. I'm running on a laptop with integrated speakers, I believe it uses Realtek hardware. I don't know how to figure out what driver Ubuntu is using for it
[07:11] <SecretGirl> leonbrussels, someone recommended booting with  acpi and apm off, i did that and now i'm at a command prompt. what should i do now
[07:11] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: I cant even start the synaptic manager
[07:11] <pawbie> argh
[07:11] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: OPen up a terminal and type compiz. Thne give the output
[07:11] <pawbie> Grub fragged my stripe set.
[07:11] <xepra> cupajoe: sometimes the drivers don't work by default, I never could get them to work right in fact
[07:11] <Arelis> Waffle: the chat about release partying - because, yesterday, many people were coming in and saying "Hardy got released!", so people wouldn't get good support
[07:11] <h00k> harriseldon: any ideas off the top of your head?
[07:11] <Shadow_X> im trying to upgrade to hardy, and even after removing unsupported packages, the upgrade still fails and complains that it can calculate the changes. any ideas?
[07:12] <harriseldon> SecretGirl is this a macbook pro?
[07:12] <cupajoe> Well that's depressing :/
[07:12] <nickrud> AdrianStrays the end of your question got cut off
[07:12] <leonbrussels> SecretGril: Try pressing Control+D and it will normally continue booting normally
[07:12] <jeffimperial> nickrud: oh well... three hourse and 122 files to go then.. thanks anyway
[07:12] <leonbrussels> SecretGirl: Try pressing Control+D and it will normally continue booting normally
[07:12] <Arelis> Waffle: err, chat = message
[07:12] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: http://pastebin.com/m45855108
[07:12] <cupajoe> Anyone else have thoughts?
[07:12] <mlw1> hey again, I'm having some big problems connecting to a sftp server in 8.04.  It worked fine and extremely fast on 7.10, but now using connect to server and specifying the same settings gives me errors after about one folder access.  Any ideas?
[07:12] <harriseldon> h00k I have no idea, it seems like a hardware issue. do you have another computer to test with? even a 7.10 live cd if that worked before
[07:12] <xepra> cupajoe:  google around, sometimes you just have to build/install your own
[07:12] <xepra> which isn't too bad
[07:12] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: the synaptic package manager is more important I guess
[07:12] <nickrud> jeffimperial yeah, the downside of using a net oriented os. I used to update debian unstable over a modem, so I have only a little sympathy ;)
[07:12] <supersako> do we need to install the simple ccsm now for compiz?
[07:13] <pawbie> supersako: Fusion-icon
[07:13] <AdrianStrays> Nickrud, this may be easier: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765749
[07:13] <cupajoe> Well I can install my own but I don't quite have the level of skill needed to build a driver
[07:13] <the_darkside_986> does Ubuntu Hardy still support single-core 32-bit CPU like Intel Celeron?
[07:13] <h00k> harriseldon: I'll try a live CD, I have some other utils I can try.  It /just/ worked today, newer drive, backed up all my info to it before my upgrade
[07:13] <SecretGirl> harriseldon, no, a compaq nx9010
[07:13] <Nahi> i have cpanel installed but i dunno how to use it
[07:13] <supersako> im reading this thing that says u need to dl a new thing called simple-ccsm
[07:13] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: yes, of course it does
[07:13] <jeffimperial> nickrud: thanks man.. at least i can stop wondering.. have to leave the effing room so that i could maximize the bandwidth..  laters
[07:13] <harriseldon> SecretGirl I saw some macbook pro threads with the same error, I will keep checking
[07:13] <jeanre> hi all
[07:13] <SecretGirl> leonbrussels, control+d dush do anything i'm still in the built in shell
[07:14] <zenlunatic> the_darkside_986: yes
[07:14] <jeanre> hi all0ModeLine "1280x800" 80.58 1280 1344 1480 1680 800<PHONE_NUMBER>?
[07:14] <the_darkside_986> ok. and i386 is the right iso?
[07:14] <jeanre> err
[07:14] <AdrianStrays> Nickrud, that is the beginning.  The problem has changed alittle.  Now when I switch off compiz, videos work fine and the lines are gone, when I switch it back on, the lines show up, a bit less, and videos are blinky and have lines all over them.
[07:14] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: Is synaptic broken?
[07:14] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: yes
[07:14] <zenlunatic> the_darkside_986: thats like 90% of all computers, so of course
[07:14] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: yeah
[07:14] <jeanre> is there any reason why I can not run 1280x800 on with nvidia drivers?
[07:14] <mlw1> is there a terminal command to change the resolution of a monitor that I could add to my session commands for startup?
[07:14] <Cusoon959> I blacklisted ssb in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist along with b43. b43 is no longer loading, but ssb is. How do I fix this?
[07:14] <SecretGirl> does anybody know how to install ubuntu from the shell
[07:14] <SecretGirl> step by step
[07:14] <m8m8y8> jia hao
[07:14] <leonbrussels> zelrikirando: What does it say?
[07:14] <Arelis> Hello, everybody. I want to get my Wacom Bamboo Fun (which is an USB tablet you connect to the pc, used to draw pictures or animations on a computer, or write some things down) to work with Ubuntu Hardy. Many people had 'promised' (somewhat) that the Bamboo Fun would automatically work in Hardy. Up to now, it doesn't. There's not even a /dev/input/wacom . So how do i get it to work?
[07:14] <m8m8y8> youren ma
[07:14] <nickrud> AdrianStrays ah, if it's only with compiz, ask in #compiz-fusion. They know how that interacts with the various video drivers
[07:14] <dystopianray> SecretGirl: sounds like you'll need the alternate install cd
[07:15] <leonbrussels>  zelrikriando: What does it say?
[07:15] <AdrianStrays> Nickrud, I already tried them, no one responded.
[07:15] <the_darkside_986> ok thanks. and is this the correct output of uname -a on my system that has Intel Celeron 3.2 Ghz: "Linux hardy-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux" ?
[07:15] <nickrud> AdrianStrays cdlrb, watch for him.
[07:15] <myf>   /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:15] <Tweaker> Hola, I got a question about another game...Its called Eclipse and it allows you to build your own ORPG and I've got it working, but I can't enter the admin panel with the F1 button, why is this?
[07:15] <AdrianStrays> Nickrud, I believe it has something to do with xorg.conf
[07:15] <harriseldon> Tweaker is it native or through Wine?
[07:15] <Tweaker> Through Wine
[07:16] <nickrud> AdrianStrays crldb maybe, one of those meaningless character strings. He's already in bed probably, but is around nearly daily, for long periods
[07:16] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: that s weird...I can run it through the terminal
[07:16] <SecretGirl> dystopianray, the cd is fine i checked and there's no problem, its an original cd that i ordered
[07:16] <zenlunatic> the_darkside_986: i think SMP means dual core/multi procs
[07:16] <damo22> hi im trying to add cdrom to apt... i get E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[07:16] <SecretGirl> does anybody know how to install ubuntu from the shell, step by step
[07:16] <dystopianray> SecretGirl: still, it sounds like you'll need the alternate install cd
[07:16] <harriseldon> Tweaker F1 is already mapped in gnome, you need to change the mapping there first. Gnome hot keys will be use before wine
[07:16] <h00k> harriseldon: Well, I turned the drive off for a bit, moved the usb cables a little, and it works now, automount and all.
[07:16] <the_darkside_986> yeah that's why i am worried. and it would explain the awful behavior of the whole system. but it doesn't act like that on the live cd
[07:16] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, alright I'll try back in the morning
[07:16] <mlw1> anyone know what I might be doing wrong to have my display resolution overwritten on every reboot?
[07:16] <Tweaker> Ok, how do I do this Harriseldon.?
[07:16] <jeanre> does anyone have any ideas on this
[07:16] <h00k> harriseldon: that scared me.  thanks for letting me think out loud about it ;)
[07:17] <nickrud> AdrianStrays between you and me, I don't use compiz on my 1100, it's just to freaking slow
[07:17] <jeanre> my mode line does not work
[07:17] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: all ubuntu is going to support SMP, so you're using the right one
[07:17] <harriseldon> h00k anytime, I am glad that it worked
[07:17] <Aces|> Anyone know if the Hardy Live CD has better Nvidia Graphics driver support than Gusty Gibbon did?
[07:17] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: try typing sudo apt-get install gedit
[07:17] <ChrisULM> got a problem with hardy, i have a panel with icons at the bottom of my desktop, but when i restart it moves the panel to the top. whats going on?
[07:17] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: if performance isn't very good, you probably need to enable the nonfree video driver
[07:17] <damo22> hi im trying to add hardy cdrom to apt... i get E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[07:17] <nickrud> Aces| it has the latest nvidia driver, while gutsy's was months out of date
[07:17] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: You already have that installed, but it will tell you where it chrashes
[07:18] <the_darkside_986> I already have the non-free nvidia driver setup. The whole system lags and startup time is extremely long.
[07:18] <zenlunatic> Aces|: from my experience so far, yes.  all the multiverse etc is default
[07:18] <knapsack_> Anyone know if there is an eclipse PDT (PHP Development framework) package in any Ubuntu repos?
[07:18] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: it s not crashing
[07:18] <Aces|> ok thanks nickrud I just had quite a bit of troubling installing 7.10 with the live cd so I ended up having to use the alternate
[07:18] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: what do you mean by "lags"?
[07:18] <Aces|> Ok thanks
[07:18] <Arelis> For anyone who wants to get a Wacom Bamboo Fun to work in Ubuntu, click this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4787309#post4787309
[07:18] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, I think I'll disable it for now, I'm just frustrated that I went from Gusty, where everything worked, to Hardy where all I've had is graphics issues. I was kind of hoping things would get better.  Thanks anyways
[07:18] <Aces|> Ill give it a try
[07:18] <SecretGirl> dystopianray, if there was a problem with cd, wouldn't the scan for defects return something