[12:01] <RikMills> xnox: kubuntu livefs just built ok with the new grub2, so thank you for the fix! :)
[13:13] <nomad_fr> Hi
[13:14] <nomad_fr> I'm looking for an Ubiquity Preseed key to enable zsys, in fact something that will put use_zfs to yes.
[13:20] <nomad_fr> I think that I found my answer in spanish : https://elpuig.xeill.net/Members/vcarceler/articulos/instalacion-desatendida-de-ubuntu-20-04-sobre-openzfs


[00:06] <andoma> I've seen some problems which may or may not be related to Compiz, i'm not sure. When running an OpenGL application (anyone will do, glxgears for example) with nvidias proprietary drivers there seem to be a freeze of display updates (sometimes up to half a second) when changing focus between windows
[00:06] <andoma> Seen on ubuntu 16.04 (both with unity session and with Gnome flashback compiz-session)


[12:16] <shining> hi
[01:02] <shining> rodarvus: hi
[01:03] <rodarvus> hi shining
[01:05] <shining> you just missed my question on debian-x :) but it's more on topic here :
[01:05] <shining> http://pastebin.ca/134377
[01:08] <rodarvus> shining, thanks, I'm working on this fix as we speak :)
[01:08] <rodarvus> (been doing since yesterday afternoon, actually)
[01:08] <shining> ha, so there is really something to be fixed, I thought I messed up something during the huge update :)
[01:08] <shining> ha ok
[01:09] <rodarvus> actually mesa already has the right dri directory builtin
[01:09] <shining> though, I think I first saw this problem quite a while ago
[01:09] <shining> ha
[01:09] <rodarvus> but it seems that for some users upgrading from dapper, this is not working
[01:10] <rodarvus> I'm chasing the root of this problem
[01:10] <shining> ha, well that was my case, but I'll maybe reinstall anyway
[01:11] <shining> ho right
[01:11] <shining> just booted on edgy desktop cd, and it looks in the correct place
[01:11] <shining> but r300 is not there :d
[01:14] <shining> btw, it's not possible to get the stupid eye candy effect with edgy?
[01:15] <shining> aiglx+compiz worked fine on dapper, after adding an unofficial repo. but the edgy branch of this repo seems broken
[01:16] <rodarvus> no need to add extra repositories for aiglx on edgy (it is part of official xorg-server)
[01:17] <rodarvus> compiz is a different subject, obviously
[01:21] <shining> what about xserver-xorg-air or something?
[01:21] <shining> it seems to be available, but Xorg-air didn't start
[01:27] <ajmitch> compiz will be updated soon, I promise :)
[01:27] <ajmitch> shining: just use the regular x server
[01:28] <ajmitch> yes, obsolete, should be removed from edgy
[01:28] <rodarvus> but anyhow, as ajmitch says, no need to run a different xorg-server
[01:28] <rodarvus> you'll just need compiz, quite probably
[01:28] <rodarvus> (and it is/should be on universe)
[01:29] <ajmitch> should be, the one in universe is broken, I've got packages locally that are missing a patch or two
[01:29] <ajmitch> ah, bug 55997
[01:38] <shining> ha ok
[01:39] <shining> well anyway, I don't really care, as long as 3d accel is working :) I just wanted to play a bit more with it till I'm bored
[01:40] <rodarvus> ajmitch, to remove this package from edgy you'll have to subscribe ubuntu-archive to this bug
[01:40] <rodarvus> (and probably make it have a more formal wording)
[01:40] <ajmitch> yes, I didn't file it, I just remembered seeing it :)
[01:40] <rodarvus> "please remove xorg-air from edgy, as upstream xorg-server implements aiglx natively" or something like this
[01:41] <ajmitch> at least malone has a nice clear link to editing the description now
[02:53] <shining> ho
[02:54] <shining> actually, it's looking in /usr/lib/dri/ when libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri are not installed
[02:54] <shining> so it doesnt find anything, because the dri package containing the driver is not there
[02:55] <shining> but after installing these packages, now that the drivers are in /usr/lib/dri/, it looks in /usr/X11R6/ again :d
[02:55] <shining> it's funny


[11:36] <andrejz> dpm are you there?
[11:36] <dpm> hey andrejz, yes :)
[11:37] <andrejz> i was wondering what ubuntu translation coordinators team does and if you need any help
[11:39] <dpm> andrejz, here you'll find all the info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTranslationsCoordinators - basically, we do need help in a) triaging translation bugs and b) Managing templates in Launchpad. Do you want to join us? :-)
[11:40] <andrejz> Well i am considering it :) I could help out with templates, i guess. what needs to be done?
[11:46] <dpm> andrejz, awesome :) right now, not much, as we've just released Natty. But generally the work entails managing them in Launchpad: changing priorities so that they appear upper in the list if necessary, disabling them if they are obsolete, approving them if they have been imported for the first time, etc...
[11:47] <andrejz> sounds good. i will apply for a membership and then i can learn how to do it as the cycle passes.
[11:48] <andrejz> i was also wondering what is the status of the universe translations? do you think they will be translatable in launchpad or not (so that i know whather i shoudl bug upstream developers or not ) ;)
[11:49] <happyaron> andrejz: I think you can also think about reorder some items in the template list, :)
[11:49] <andrejz> where is the list and how is it done?
[11:50] <dpm> andrejz, sure, we grant membership to active and knowledgeable translators, so you'd be the right match for the role :)
[11:50] <dpm> andrejz, once you are part of the team you get the permission to modify templates, and you can change their priority field
[11:51] <dpm> you can do this on a template admin page, or on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+templates (shows all templates for the distro)
[11:52] <andrejz> hm, i don't see "join this team" link here - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators
[11:54] <andrejz> also i see many kde packages have a priority of 0
[11:54] <andrejz> is this normal?
[11:56] <dpm> andrejz, it's probably because the priority hasn't been set (so you've identified an area where we need help ;)
[11:56] <andrejz> oh, good ;)
[11:56] <dpm> andrejz, it's because the team is restricted (invitation only), but I can add you manually to it.
[11:57] <dpm> andrejz, let me ask the other team members and then we can add you
[11:57] <andrejz> ok, sure
[12:04] <andrejz> dpm, i have another question. is the universe going to be translatable in launchpad in 11.10?
[12:24] <dpm> sorry for the delay andrejz. We don't have any plan for that next cycle. We discussed that a couple of UDSs ago and while technically possible, it requires changes to universe packages, which are not generally as well maintained as the packages in main. I guess if there is interest for particular packages, and the maintainers are responsive, we could enable them for those selected packages
[12:27] <andrejz> well i was especially considering wine, since developers are very hard to get to
[12:27] <andrejz> right now i am just writing a mail to polish wine translator if he could commit translations to us, since a couple of developers hasve been compeltely unresponsive
[14:03] <dpm> andrejz, thanks a lot for your reply on the serverguide e-mail. As Matthew East opened a separate thread for that, may I ask you to re-send your message, but this time replying to the e-mail with the subject: "Localisation of help.ubuntu.com" and making sure the ubuntu-docs list is on CC? Thanks!
[14:03] <andrejz> ok, sure.. i only have daily digest that's why i am late sometimes
[14:05] <dpm> andrejz, no worries. I just wanted to make sure that the docs team is aware of the reply
[14:06] <andrejz> sent
[14:06] <dpm> excellent, thanks :)
[14:06] <andrejz> it awaits moderator approval on the -docs since i am not a member, on the other hand it might be a good thing to join ;)
[14:07] <dpm> :)
[14:07] <dpm> Mirv, you stated your reasons in the past in favour of a localized help.ubuntu.com. Do you think you could repost them on that thread on the translators mailing list ^^ to see if we can finally get some traction on it?
[14:08] <andrejz> i think it makes sense. in our case some people wrote some good docs, but then forgot to update it
[14:08] <dpm> everyone feel free to chip in to the discussion, and let the translators voice be heard :)
[14:09] <andrejz> i subscribed so i will add something more when i see the replies
[14:16] <dpm> ok, cool
[15:04] <dpm> if any of you guys want to attend - getting started with translating Ubuntu is on right now on #ubuntu-classroom
[15:04] <artnay> sure, why not
[15:04] <dpm> it's Ubuntu Open Week! :-)
[15:04] <artnay> thanks for reminding
[16:11] <andrejz> Does anyone know when the first language pack update is going to be released?


[00:06] <Ahmuck> it's there now.  however i've done a "sudo aptitude update" "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" and then a "sudo ltsp-build-client" since the install
[00:08] <Ahmuck> i have noticed that when i do a ltsp-build-client it downloads a large number of new packages
[00:49] <Ahmuck> hrm, when ltsp client fails, it also fails to configure the second nic for serving dhcp ltsp clients
[00:49] <Ahmuck> i'm falling back to ubuntu
[00:49] <Ahmuck> i was under the impression that ltsp-server, client, etc. configured that
[01:25] <sbalneav> Evening all
[01:27] <Ahmuck> hi sbalneav
[01:27] <Rideh> heya
[01:28] <stgraber> hi Rideh
[01:29] <Rideh> hey stgraber !
[01:29] <Rideh> i'll be back in a few minutes
[02:40] <davidgroos> Hi--anyone have any opinions about good edubuntu classroom management software?
[02:40] <stgraber> iTalc ?
[02:40] <davidgroos> That's cool, I was looking at that.
[02:41] <davidgroos> I'd also heard of something like samoyan
[02:41] <davidgroos> or something
[02:44] <davidgroos> unfortunately I can't remember the name of the software exactly and haven't had luck googling 'samoyan' samboyan etc.
[02:44] <davidgroos> Not sounding familiar to anyone?
[02:46] <stgraber> not really no, the only thing that I can think of based on that name is sabayon but it's not really a classroom management software so I doubt it's what you are looking for
[02:48] <davidgroos> hmmm maybe I misunderstood what was being described--the name is too similar to be a coincidence, I think.  Thanks stgraber for throwing it out there!
[02:48] <davidgroos> I'm going to check it out!
[02:50] <davidgroos> Another question--I'm just starting a project where I'll be using edubuntu thin clients and need an easy way to import users from some csv or other formate file.
[02:50] <davidgroos> I was totally unable to find software to load users into the ubuntu server.  Any ideas here?
[02:51] <stgraber> a shell script parsing that file and doing the adduser is certainly the easiest, though if you have a lot of user and may need to split them across two servers soon, having a LDAP server may be best (then use some LDAP tools to add the users)
[02:52] <davidgroos> Cool info!  I'm really quite a noob at this so what is obvious to you is an insight to me!
[02:53] <davidgroos> I've got a friend who could write a script like this, I'd guess.  Anything in particular I should tell him?
[02:54] <stgraber> yeah, add the user to the same groups as a normal user (from a desktop installation) except adm and admin
[02:54] <stgraber> so they can have sound and everything working correctly but can't run sudo
[02:55] <stgraber> oh, and for LTSP, you'll need to add them to the "fuse" group too to have usbkey support
[02:57] <davidgroos> Thanks so much stgraber.  I've put some stuff on line about my project but wonder if I put the info in the right place--should I be using an edubuntu wiki instead of the Ubuntu wiki?
[02:58] <davidgroos> Here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam/Education
[02:59] <stgraber> davidgroos: oh, I'll send that URL to some guys at the office, they might be interested and may give you a hand.
[02:59] <stgraber> I'm working for a company that does thin clients and desktop deployement mainly in school districts
[03:00] <davidgroos> That would be awesome!  which state?
[03:01] <stgraber> We're in Canada (Quebec) and have some school districts here in Canada and one in Indiana
[03:01] <stgraber> and another in the US IIRC
[03:01] <davidgroos> I would love to share ideas--though I enjoy and am ok w/ technology my specialty is teaching.
[03:02] <davidgroos> my e-mail is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:03] <stgraber> ok, mine is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for the Ubuntu community side :)) and my company is http://www.revolutionlinux.com/?lang=en
[03:04] <Rideh> stgraber: this channel is much more free with info than your typical irc channel :D
[03:05] <davidgroos> I know very little about irc protocol and appreciate clear instruction on such!
[03:13] <davidgroos> Thanks so much to all you who are helping get these great open source solutions into kids hands.
[03:13] <davidgroos> I expect to be on this channel quite a bit :-)
[03:16] <Rideh> davidgroos: irc has been around a very long time
[03:17] <Rideh> many "script kiddies" and such roam and use this as a play ground to flex their skills
[03:17] <Rideh> things are becomming more civil but still be cognosent that like anywhere there are always ppl with ill intentions lurking
[03:18] <Ahmuck> any suggestions for a "burn in" linux iso?
[03:21] <davidgroos> Thanks Rideh.  I searched script kiddies and so they could use e-mail addresses?  Or the worry would be some lurker noting the address then
[03:22] <Rideh> nah email address is just a email address but you might get unnecessary hassle
[03:22] <davidgroos> e-mailing me off line purporting to help but getting info to do otherwise?  Or am I missing something?
[03:22] <Rideh> anything
[03:22] <davidgroos> Right.  Thanks.
[03:24] <stgraber> my e-mail addresses are already on all existing spammer list (my server gets around 40k spams a day) so one more place isn't really a problem :)
[03:25] <Rideh> stgraber: wasnt really directed at you, i'm fairly confident your aware of irc's roots
[03:26] <Rideh> davidgroos: just mentioned hes new to irc
[03:26] <Rideh> such a good resource hate to see ppl turned away from it because of bs
[03:27] <stgraber> right
[03:30] <stgraber> davidgroos: http://blog.revolutionlinux.com/en/post/2008/10/28/T-L-2008-%3A-Thin-Client-Lab-Setup
[03:32] <stgraber> good example of what you can do with LTSP and localapps + a lot of people from various school districts were T+L and used (maybe without knowing) thin clients while attending conferences in that room
[03:32] <davidgroos> Thanks, I'll check it out!
[03:50] <sbalneav> ls
[03:50] <sbalneav> whoops
[04:00] <Ahmuck> if i use the server for my main pc will i still be able to serve 8 clients from it?
[04:01] <Ahmuck> wrong question.  can i use a quad-core, 4g ram server for my use and still serve 8 clients comfortablly?
[04:02] <sbalneav> Ahmuck: Should be able to with no problem.
[04:03]  * Ahmuck grumbles the server boards don't come with sound
[04:06] <Ahmuck> vanilla ubuntu ltsp server install on a board with two nics won't connect to the inet unless one goes in and unremarks the dhcp line in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:07] <sbalneav> Well, typically, an LTSP server doesn't have the "internet" side as a DHCP interface.
[04:07] <sbalneav> Servers should have fixed IP interfaces.
[04:08] <Ahmuck> ah.  yes
[04:08] <Ahmuck> it fixes eth1 as the static, so is it serving eth0 ?
[04:09] <sbalneav> Well, eth1's probably managed by network manager, which you should set as a static interface as well.
[04:09] <sbalneav> Usually, in a server environment.
[04:15] <sbalneav> Well, late here, heading to bed.
[04:15] <sbalneav> Night all


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[01:20] <tsimonq2> infinity: Is there any chance you'd let us have bug 1812594 in -updates early so we can get it in for the point release?
[01:21] <tsimonq2> infinity: Or when it's released on Wednesday I could respin. ;P
[01:21] <tsimonq2> Er, Tuesday.
[02:16] <infinity> tsimonq2: We can push it out Monday before RCs spin up.  Remind me then.
[02:17] <tsimonq2> infinity: Will do, thanks.
[02:19] <infinity> tsimonq2: OOI, why was the solution not "install lxlock"?
[02:20] <tsimonq2> infinity: We don't want to have to maintain two session lockers. :P
[02:22] <infinity> Oh, I guess light-locker is in your desktop seed, so pretty much always there.  Kay.
[02:22] <infinity> Just saw the shell script's attempt to DTRT based on what's installed, and figured the flexibility might be wanted.
[02:22] <tsimonq2> Fair enough, thanks for checking.
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[00:49] <gregcoit> hi all.  if I want to branch just a part of a trunk, is that possible?
[03:06] <MTecknology> KangOl: ({)
[03:15] <MTecknology> KangOl: wrong person - orry
[03:45] <magcius> If I register a VCS import to mirror, is there a way to use bzr to push back upstream?
[03:45] <magcius> Because otherwise VCS imports seem kind of useless
[03:46] <MTecknology> magcius: they're primarily used so you can pull the branch and deal with it using bzr; upstream accepts patches in whatever way they feel appropriate
[03:46] <magcius> eek
[03:47] <MTecknology> magcius: the thing I like about vcs imports is that it doesn't matter what version control system they use (it matters some due to limitations right now), you just do bzr pull and you have latest
[03:47] <MTecknology> cvs, svn, or git
[03:47] <magcius> MTecknology, yeah, well I primarily use git.
[03:48] <MTecknology> magcius: if you like git and you're working close with upstream, you may as well jsut pull their git branch
[03:48] <MTecknology> use git to interact unless you really hate git
[03:48] <magcius> MTecknology, no, I'm trying to use a third-party project that uses SVN.
[03:48] <magcius> And they have a bzr mirror on Launchpad
[03:48] <MTecknology> svn isn't too bad
[03:48] <magcius> I can't stand it.
[03:49] <magcius> I try to merge, it tries to compute and talk with the server for 35-40 minutes before it fails.
[03:49] <MTecknology> ya, a merge in bzr, you can generate a diff to send upstream
[03:49] <MTecknology> bzr diff > patch.diff
[03:50] <MTecknology> doesn't matter what they use, diff is universal :)
[03:50] <wgrant> magcius: If it's a new Subversion import, you can push back to svn.
[03:51] <persia> Well, not really, but patch understands just about all the formats.
[03:51] <magcius> wgrant, from bzr?
[03:51] <wgrant> magcius: Yes.
[03:51] <magcius> wgrant, nice nice.
[03:51] <magcius> wgrant, what username will it try to use?
[03:51] <wgrant> magcius: You will tell it.
[03:51] <magcius> wgrant, alright
[04:28] <micahg> what are the grounds for banning an abusive user?
[04:29] <wgrant> I'm not sure that there are strict well-defined guidelines.
[04:30]  * micahg has a user making unprovoked  personal attacks in bugs
[04:30] <wgrant> That probably counts, if they've been warned.
[04:31] <micahg> idk if the user has been warned, this happened this evening
[04:31] <micahg> I posted a link to the CoC in 3 bugs as the user's tone was not in line with the Coc
[05:47] <persia> Somehow attaching a patch ended up happening *twice* for bug #519427.  I'm having huge latency issues with my browser right now, but I wouldn't have expected this behaviour.
[05:48] <persia> Is this likely to be a bug, or just me having browser issues?
[05:50] <wgrant> They were added almost a minute apart, and with different input, so it's probably an issue on your end.
[06:08] <crimsun> OOPS-1506EA140
[06:09] <crimsun> (retry was successful)
[09:53] <sebner> wgrant: dpkg is now fixed. What needs to be done until the build machines are fixed too?
[10:07] <wgrant> sebner: cjwatson (or similar) need to backport that dpkg (or patch) to hardy-cat.
[11:59] <Halabund> When translating using Launchpad, are there any tricks for finding pieces of strings more easily?  E.g. I see something in the UI, how can I find it, apart from explicit search using the top right search box?  Is there perhaps a way to restrict the search to certain source files?
[12:01] <Halabund> Or perhaps is there a case sensitive search?
[12:43] <KangOl> bazaar.launchpad.net give me a "Internal Server Error" :/
[12:44] <reza> Hi, I have a .po of elgg software file. I want to upload it, Where can I upload that ?
[13:51] <Halabund> It would be helpful to be able to see not just one, but several other languages while translating.
[13:59] <rioch> I'm ready to make a release for my project. The code in my trunk (and only) branch is up to date. I have some questions. What do I do now? Do I select 'create release from milestone'? What does that do? Do I need to upload files directly (e.g. a source dist) or does that happen automatically?
[14:27] <rioch> is anyone around?
[14:28] <rioch> I want to create a new series, but am not sure what branch to use.
[14:42] <rioch> Should each series have it's own branch? Please help.
[14:42] <thrashold> How do you anonymously checkout something from a launchpad bzr repo?
[14:43] <rioch> thrashold: bzr branch lp:<name of branch>
[14:43] <rioch> thrashold: the trunk is the same name as the project name
[14:43] <rioch> e.g. bzr branch lp:pumped (my project)
[14:43] <thrashold> Oh, the notice that I wasn't logged in wasn't an error, I see.
[14:44] <thrashold> Thanks
[16:07] <RenatoSilva> Can anyone please remove the automatic branch linking when the branch is trunk?
[16:07] <RenatoSilva> if a bug has no branch linked, that means it was fixed in trunk
[16:08] <RenatoSilva> or that you should add the separate branch in the bug
[16:12] <maxb> By 'trunk' you mean the development focus?
[16:15] <maxb> I don't think that should happen. If a bug has no branch linked, it may not have a fix in launchpad at all
[16:37] <askhl_> I can't use 'apt-get source' to get the source from my PPA.  Is there anything I can do to make this possible?
[16:38] <andrea-bs> askhl_: have you added the "deb-src" line to your sources.list?
[16:38] <askhl_> andrea-bs, maybe I haven't!  Let me check
[16:39] <askhl_> Ah, that *is* obviously the problem.  Thank you andrea-bs
[16:58] <RenatoSilva> maxb: if a bug has no branch linked, it's implicit that it was fixed in trunk
[16:58] <RenatoSilva> maxb: you don't tell a bug has a fix by linking branches, but by setting the status as FixCommitted
[17:52] <RenatoSilva> well the suggestion was made
[17:52] <RenatoSilva> thanks all
[18:08] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:08] <_Groo_> anyone alive?
[18:32] <_Groo_> dput is still broken? i cant upload anything to ppa, ence i can contribute with new packages :( in this case, kx11grab and skrooge
[18:32] <_Groo_> a 65k package cant even complete, total fail :P
[19:09] <maxb> groo_: No, dput is not broken.
[19:10] <magcius> Is a hosted wiki feature in the works for 4.0?
[19:11] <maxb> It's oft talked about but I've not heard anything about it being actually planned. But, you're unlikely to find anyone official around on a weekend to ask for certain.
[19:12] <groo_> maxb: i cant upload anything since launchpad was forced to delete a lot of stuff.. the upload ratio went to a crawl since..
[19:13] <groo_> maxb: like 0.5kb/sec
[20:05] <groo_> anyone responsible for the ppa.launchpad.net network around here? im having bottleneck problems
[20:12] <thumper> groo_: ask a question on the soyuz project
[20:12] <thumper> groo_: the soyuz guys are all in european time
[20:17] <groo_> thumper: what channel is the soyuz
[20:17] <magcius> groo_, ask on Launchpad Answers
[20:17] <thumper> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+addquestion
[20:18] <thumper> groo_: ^^
[20:24] <groo_> thumper: thanks
[20:27] <groo_> thumper: can i manually upload to ppa using ncftp?
[20:27] <thumper> groo_: I have absolutely no idea
[20:27] <groo_> thumper: or make dput use other ftp client
[20:28] <groo_> thumper: ok thanks
[20:29] <persia> manual uploads should work just fine, although it will require significantly greater attention to detail than usual.  upload the .changes file *LAST*.
[21:32] <Lord-Readman> Mez, you here?
[21:32] <Lord-Readman> this is urgent
[21:33] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: is it something anyone else can help you with?
[21:33] <Lord-Readman> immediate removal of a certain translator from our team
[21:34] <Lord-Readman> https://launchpad.net/~tomasz-chabowski-googlemail/
[21:34] <Lord-Readman> from English (United Kingdom)
[21:34] <Lord-Readman> he is suggesting and approving american english spellings
[21:34] <Lord-Readman> I have just spent the last 30mins cleaning up wrong translations
[21:34] <Lord-Readman> and hes just on a role of making more errors
[21:35] <Lord-Readman> I sent examples to mez using launchpad contact
[21:35] <Lord-Readman> translating color as color instead of colour, and memorize as memorize instead of memorise
[21:36] <MTecknology> it's 21:35 in Mez tim; it's possible he took off for the night
[21:37] <Lord-Readman> hopefully not
[21:37] <poolie> spm: can you help with this ^^
[21:37] <Lord-Readman> as this user is wreaking more by the second
[21:37] <MTecknology> I'm noticing that the UK Translators team is open
[21:37] <Lord-Readman> MTecknology, do you have any control to temp block the user
[21:37] <MTecknology> no
[21:38] <Lord-Readman> I may as well quit then, no point myself spending hours of effort on something for anyone to just come in and wreak it.
[21:39] <MTecknology> just use patience
[21:39] <Lord-Readman> but he has done over 200 translations already
[21:39] <MTecknology> if they can freely join and approve bad translations, then there's a problem...
[21:39] <Lord-Readman> just copy paste
[21:39] <Lord-Readman> all wrong
[21:40] <Lord-Readman> is there a way to see exactly what a user has done
[21:40] <Lord-Readman> so this can be cleared up
[21:40] <MTecknology> poolie: are you familiar with translations?
[21:40] <poolie> not very
[21:41] <poolie> i just know spm can do emergency operations like that
[21:41] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: I think you should be able to grab all current translations, then keep that around
[21:43] <Lord-Readman> is spm around?
[21:43] <MTecknology> no
[21:43] <MTecknology> There's also ianto that you could talk to but they're not around either
[21:45] <Lord-Readman> Well i sent a message to the guy telling him to stop
[21:45] <Lord-Readman> and he is still at it
[21:45] <maxb> mwhudson: are there any losas around at this time?
[21:45] <Lord-Readman> it will take days to fix
[21:45] <mwhudson> maxb: no :(
[21:46] <mwhudson> Lord-Readman: i have the vague idea that it is possible to remove translations by a particular user
[21:46] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: the problem here is that ~ubuntu-l10n-en-gb should be a moderated team
[21:46] <Lord-Readman> it was when I joined
[21:46] <Lord-Readman> need mez quickly
[21:47] <Lord-Readman> mwhudson, I really hope so
[21:50] <Lord-Readman> so who are the admins I need to see about fixing this?
[21:53] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: either Mez or ianto should make the team moderated, remove the user from the team, then go to answers.launchpad.net/launchpad and request any translations by that user be removed
[21:53] <Lord-Readman> I am doing it manually now
[21:53] <Lord-Readman> he seems to have paused
[21:54] <MTecknology> I sent him a message earlier
[21:54] <MTecknology> it's most likely just a user that thought they were doing good
[21:54] <thumper> Lord-Readman, MTecknology: spm should be online shortly I think
[21:55] <thumper> MTecknology: I agree, most mistakes are not malicious
[21:57] <Lord-Readman> nope, I but there are ALOT, and it is clear he has no understanding of British English
[21:57] <Lord-Readman> center to centre, gray to grey, color to colour
[21:57] <Lord-Readman> and is just causing harm and NO good
[21:57] <Lord-Readman> which is not the Ubuntu spirit
[21:58] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: nah - the ubuntu spirit is humanity toward others; accidentally causing problems happens
[21:58] <Lord-Readman> we'll now I can't go to bed
[21:58] <Lord-Readman> as he has started translating again
[21:59] <Lord-Readman> and can copy paste faster than I can read
[21:59] <thumper> Lord-Readman: which user?
[21:59] <jpds> spm: https://launchpad.net/~tomasz-chabowski-googlemail/
[21:59] <Lord-Readman> https://translations.launchpad.net/~tomasz-chabowski-googlemail/
[21:59] <jpds> Err, thumper ^--.
[22:00] <Lord-Readman> I am on the +activity cleaning up the many mistakes
[22:01] <lifeless> thumper: CHR can disable
[22:01] <lifeless> thumper: e.g. you
[22:01] <thumper> lifeless: do you know how? cause I don't
[22:01] <lifeless> thumper: look at their account page ;)
[22:02] <lifeless> Lord-Readman: uhm colour is received english
[22:02] <MTecknology> no, the servers
[22:02] <thumper> oh yeah
[22:02] <MTecknology> *wrong chan
[22:03] <thumper> Lord-Readman: user suspended
[22:03] <Lord-Readman> great
[22:03] <Lord-Readman> I will fix it all unless someone can just remove all his translations
[22:03] <thumper> I can't do anything with translations, perhaps spm can
[22:04] <thumper> Lord-Readman: perhaps ask a question on the rosetta project
[22:04] <thumper> Lord-Readman: that way it can be tracked
[22:04] <lifeless> Lord-Readman: I don't understand why changing color to colour is bad
[22:04] <lifeless> for en-gb
[22:04] <Lord-Readman> no lifeless
[22:04] <lifeless> it would certainly be appropriate for en-au
[22:04] <Lord-Readman> he did color and copied it to color
[22:04] <Lord-Readman> NOT changing it to colour
[22:04] <lifeless> oh
[22:05] <Lord-Readman> he didnt change anything
[22:05] <thumper> hmm..
[22:05] <lifeless> yes thats bad ;)
[22:05] <Lord-Readman> just copy pasted
[22:05] <Lord-Readman> he left center as center instead of changing it to centre
[22:05] <Lord-Readman> etc
[22:05] <lifeless> are his translations being marked fuzzy ?
[22:05] <lifeless> perhaps one thing that could be done is a 'mark fuzzy' update to the db - but ask a question on rosetta for sure.
[22:06] <Lord-Readman> just remove them all and politely tell him we can translate our own language and he can freely translate English to Polish by all means
[22:13] <Lord-Readman> so who removed him and what shall I now tell mez?
[22:13] <Lord-Readman> to lock the team again?
[22:13] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: Mez can catch up on the backlog here and he'll know what to do
[22:14] <Lord-Readman> Well I have around 200 more translations he made to check
[22:14] <Lord-Readman> then its all sorted
[22:15] <thumper> Lord-Readman: I suspended his launchpad account
[22:16] <thumper> Lord-Readman: you should tell Mez to remove him from the team (probably needs to have his account reactivated)
[22:16] <MTecknology> thumper: at least they only joined one team and were only involved in one activity
[22:16] <thumper> Lord-Readman: we can probably get a losa to do all that
[22:16] <thumper> Lord-Readman: perhaps you should consider making the translation team restricted?
[22:17] <thumper> Lord-Readman: and have more than one admin for the team to allow others to act as well
[22:17] <Lord-Readman> I do not have the authority to do so
[22:17] <thumper> Lord-Readman: well, tell mez to do so
[22:17] <Lord-Readman> well if mez would like me to help out I certainly would
[22:18] <MTecknology> The other admin of the team is ianto
[22:25] <Lord-Readman> All fixed
[22:25] <Lord-Readman> thats an hour and a half I could have spent doing translations myself
[22:25] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: just need to relax :)
[22:26] <MTecknology> things happen, they were most likely trying to help but didn't know what they were doing
[22:28] <Lord-Readman> I suppose, I sent a PM to mez saying that if I can be a moderator to help him out I gladly will.
[22:28] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: I do wish they responded to my request so we could handle it without admin intervention in here
[22:30] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: btw - this may be a nice read for you - http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml
[22:30] <Lord-Readman> I know, it wastes everyone's time, I apologise for the combined time wasted by the user, but many thanks for getting it resolved.
[22:30] <Lord-Readman> I will take a read
[22:32] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: also, you should look into doing a few extra things and try out becomming an ubuntu member
[22:35] <Lord-Readman> Someone showed me Ubuntu, I now use ubuntu, I show others ubuntu, and reading things like "dialog box" instead of "dialogue box" (enUS instead of enGB) annoyed me, So i wanted to help out, thus have done over 40k strings so far and Lucid only has 30k to go. (easily doable before the release)
[22:36] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: that's awesome
[22:37] <Lord-Readman> If I can help out in other areas I would, but I am not a programmer, translating into enGB is the one big thing I can do at the moment
[22:37] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: btw - April 14th - last to do translations
[22:37] <Lord-Readman> 1000 aday is no problem
[22:37] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: on April 15th the last import for Lucid will take place
[22:38] <Lord-Readman> I plan on seeing it 99-100% done on the 15th of March
[22:38] <MTecknology> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[22:39] <MTecknology> You should apply for ubuntu membership after this release
[22:39] <Lord-Readman> What are the benefits of Ubuntu membership?
[22:40] <MTecknology> ubottu: membership
[22:40] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: that page, then follow the last link
[22:40] <MTecknology> there's a section "Benefits of Membership"
[22:42] <Lord-Readman> I will maybe look into that, but after I have got my language translated, that more important
[22:42] <Lord-Readman> I think I will try get it all done by beta1
[22:42] <Lord-Readman> as others are doing them aswell
[22:42] <MTecknology> that's a lot of translations - would be impressive
[22:43] <MTecknology> I need to run out to a site to fix a router that's down....
[22:43] <MTecknology> ttyl
[22:43] <MTecknology> good luck
[22:44] <MTecknology> Lord-Readman: just need to remember- the spirit of ubuntu- friendly, helpful, welcoming, foregiving
[22:54] <wgrant> persia: The order of upload shouldn't actually matter to Soyuz.
[23:02] <persia> wgrant: Really?  I thought it periodically scanned and sent failure if it found a .changes file with unsatisfied dependencies.
[23:06] <wgrant> persia: No. That's how traditional systems do it, but Soyuz transparently creates a new directory for each upload and moves it into the search path only when the upload session terminates.
[23:09] <persia> wgrant: So in the case where uploads are breaking repeatedly, it's not actually possible to use some arbitrary resuming ftp-client to push stuff?
[23:09] <lifeless> persia: no
[23:10] <persia> Oh well.
[23:12] <geser> wgrant: do you know by chance if gina (?, the script that updates the LP Debian "mirror") has currently any issues?
[23:15] <poolie> heh, trying to revoke any oauth keys give 'permission denied'
[23:16] <geser> poolie: known bug
[23:16] <poolie> yep, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/511567
[23:25] <wgrant> persia: It all has to be in the one FTP connection.
[23:25] <wgrant> geser: Any particular packages?
[23:25] <wgrant> Some will be failing due to bugs in the currently installed version of dpkg, but it shouldn't be many.
[23:25] <geser> wgrant: clxclient
[23:26] <geser> wgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/clxclient lists 3.6.1-1 while the PTS page for it lists 3.6.1-1.1 uploaded on 2010-02-05
[23:27] <geser> it's also a v1 package
[23:28] <wgrant> I can't see any reason that it would be failing, and it's a package-specific failure.
[23:28] <wgrant> So it'll need somebody with log access.
[23:29] <geser> ok, thanks anyway


[00:17] <melodie> hi
[00:19] <melodie> does someone know why there are not all services in the System Jobs Administration tool which runs above jobservices and why this program works poorly ?
[00:27] <melodie> I'll ask again another day, never mind
[16:33] <RoyK> hm... anyone knows how I can dig into bug 1171945?
[16:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1171945 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Nested RAID levels aren't started after reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171945
[20:37] <humanuser32> BUG (Xubuntu 13.04 German) in the repository: Package "Evolution-Kalender" (translation: Evolution-Calender) contains the gnome-shell: http://s1.directupload.net/images/130503/vgjvp4rp.jpg
[20:39] <TheLordOfTime> humanuser32:  so file it as a bug?
[20:41] <humanuser32> TheLordOfTime: And where shall I do this? I don't know the real name of the package?
[20:44] <TheLordOfTime> probably evolution-plugins
[20:44] <TheLordOfTime> but that there doesn't mean gnome-shell you know
[20:45] <TheLordOfTime> also I can't read german can you translate that line to english?
[20:45] <humanuser32> * ? -> .
[20:47] <humanuser32> It says: graphical shell for the Gnome-Desktop
[20:49] <humanuser32> TheLordOfTime: and the version of the package is: gnome-shell <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6
[20:50] <TheLordOfTime> and this is in 13.04.
[20:50] <TheLordOfTime> wait hang on a second there.
[20:50] <humanuser32> Yes, xubuntu
[20:50] <TheLordOfTime> i think i've misread what you're asking about
[20:50]  * TheLordOfTime relooks
[20:51] <TheLordOfTime> see this is why I don't use the software center
[20:52] <TheLordOfTime> it lists all sorts of excess cruft that needs to burn.
[20:52] <humanuser32> :-D
[20:52] <TheLordOfTime> humanuser32:  that doesn't look like it's part of the evolution suite.  I don't think this is a bug in evolution
[20:52] <TheLordOfTime> since you installed evolution already, (see the green check mark?) i don't think you need to worry
[20:52] <TheLordOfTime> but i'm unsure
[20:53]  * TheLordOfTime is still configuring a 13.04 VM
[20:53] <TheLordOfTime> humanuser32:  bah, my ISO's corrupted
[20:54] <TheLordOfTime> humanuser32:  i'll be back after dinner (about 1.5 hours) after which I'll run an Xubuntu 13.04 VM.
[20:54] <humanuser32> You don't need to do this
[20:54] <TheLordOfTime> meh
[20:54] <TheLordOfTime> i need to for other reasons
[20:54] <TheLordOfTime> (like bugtesting 13.04 software I watch xD)
[20:54] <humanuser32> OK, thanks!
[20:55] <TheLordOfTime> i'm assuming of course there's an english variant of that software, but... :P
[20:55]  * TheLordOfTime still hates the ubuntu software center


[00:58] <BoxBunny> hi guys, it looks it s not possible to use usb tethering with openvpn
[00:59] <BoxBunny> do y have any idea to use vpn on usb-tethering
[04:40] <kotgc> Hello, someone gave me this code but it fails https://dpaste.com/C2H4L6VZW
[04:40] <kotgc> My research shows a different way to tar something https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/tar-command-linux-examples/
[04:40] <kotgc> What do I need to do?
[04:43] <rbox> the name of the file needs to be next to the f, but also, you're not telling it what to add to the tar
[04:45] <kotgc> rbox thx, I'm trying to backup a failed OS from this LiveUSB
[05:20] <gebbione> hi, i see several packages offered under a so called pro subscription now. Does it mean that some packages will not be updated unless you pay for pro?
[05:22] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Short answer is no - pro is under a differnt support structure.
[05:22] <Bashing-om> !pro | geb
[07:29] <bram__> im 78 yrs old - i feel used - please help.
[07:30] <bram__> never mid - thank you for your time.
[07:39] <rainfly> Hey
[07:46] <rainfly> do you like ubuntu?
[07:51] <CosmicDJ> rainfly: sure
[07:52] <rainfly> why
[07:52] <bert2trs> is there a way to stop software updater from suggesting Ubuntu Pro updates?
[07:53] <CosmicDJ> rainfly: the dock pannel is always there
[07:54] <CosmicDJ> rainfly: also ubuntu supports secure boot with nvidia drivers
[07:59] <toddc> !pro | bert2trs
[07:59] <toddc> bert2trs: or remove with sudo ln -s -f /dev/null /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-esm-hook.conf
[08:00] <bert2trs> toddc: thanks! Will add that to my system setup
[08:04] <cbus> hmm that doesnt solve it though
[08:04] <cbus> it still shows up in the Software Updater just not in apt-
[08:10] <ravage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/2047778
[08:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2047778 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Software Updater unable to cancel Ubuntu Pro upgrade" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[08:10] <ravage> Not much helpful information yet
[08:11] <ravage> But mark yourself as affected
[08:13] <bert2trs> Will dig up my old launchpad account, thanks
[08:15] <cbus> ah thanks
[08:15] <cbus> I see that bug as ads
[08:17] <toddc> or free addl support I use it
[08:29] <bram__> ubuntu is - - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXLmYyFu4I
[08:30] <bram__> thank ou for your time.
[09:25] <Kartagis> I have a problem. I have installed Ubuntu desktop in UTM on Mac. However, the grub menu stayed the same. How can I at least boot to a specific option?
[09:29] <CosmicDJ> Kartagis: maybe UTM is still booting from the ubuntu install iso? did you try "ejecting" the iso/cdrom?
[09:30] <Kartagis> CosmicDJ: yes I did, it then says "Not found" or something like that.
[09:30] <CosmicDJ> Kartagis: maybe follow the guide closely? https://docs.getutm.app/guides/ubuntu/
[09:34] <Kartagis> oh, I probably need to stop the VM to umount the ISO
[09:36] <rainfly> \
[09:39] <Kartagis> CosmicDJ: yes, I did need to do that.  Is installing linux on mac reversable?
[10:05] <Kartagis> rainfly: I'm not ditching macOS, I'd never do that.
[10:06] <CosmicDJ> rainfly: UTM is a VM software like VirtualBox or VMWare Workstation
[10:09] <wyre> it's a fresh install so ... not sure why memtest86+ doesn't come by default
[10:39] <simonov123> hi
[10:39] <simonov123> nice to meet you,my pleasure Lucio
[10:40] <simonov123> i developed an application for ubuntu
[10:40] <simonov123> and i want to pubblish on your repositories
[10:41] <simonov123> how to do it?
[10:41] <ravage> simonov123: the fastest way is to look at https://snapcraft.io
[10:42] <simonov123> so i need to  turn my deb in a snap
[10:43] <ravage> deb is a supported plugin
[10:44] <rainfly> Is there a safe tool like BitLocker for Ubuntu?
[10:44] <Paris> there is a tool to build a deb package from your app, that can be install like the other one, then it needs to be accepted in the official repository, you gotta submit itto the official packagers or something.
[10:45] <ravage> rainfly: the installer supports full disk encryption. if you want to encrypt an external drive open "Disks"
[10:45] <ravage> you can create luks encrypted partitions there
[10:46] <simonov123> my deb package has already been built and working,i have just to put it on repository,i'm looking for the channel for communicate with official repository
[10:46] <Haris_> hello all
[10:48] <Haris_> I'm on 20.x LTS. I'm trying to customize path for mysql server. on configuration, and subsequent mysqld start, it fails. then when I run mysqld --initialize it gives me a stupid error [10:48] <Haris_> instance = VM
[10:49] <Haris_> Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS. codename: focal
[10:49] <ravage> The MySQLd process will still use the user defined in the configuration
[10:50] <ravage> The default user is mysql
[10:50] <ravage> So make sure that user can write there
[10:51] <Haris_> I had to delete that folder b/c mysqld --initialize gives me the error that folder already exists
[10:51] <Haris_> mysqld: Can't create directory '/mnt/custom/path/' (OS errno 17 - File exists)
[10:52] <Haris_> (2) I'v had to put my custom config in /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.conf. Is this where I customize my.cnf role config file for it?
[10:58] <Haris_> Is there a way to initialize mysql w/ a custom path on focal?
[10:59] <Haris_> user mysql exists. I already created the folder and applied the ownership/permissions. then I had to delete it when I got this error
[11:00] <Haris_> Is mysql config hard-coded somewhere, where I have to adapt to make it work with custom path on focal?
[11:01] <Haris_> I can see it in audit log apparmor is denying mysql for this
[11:08] <Haris_> how to adapt apparmor to make mysqld work with custom datadir path? I added custom paths in apprmor. reloaded two times. restarted apparmor once. still I get permission denied on mysqld --initialize
[11:21] <Haris_> guys .. anyone around? I can't proceed with my work b/c of this
[11:21] <wyre> there is no linux-image pacakges in focal-backports? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=focal-backports&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image
[11:26] <CosmicDJ> wyre: why should there be one?
[11:36] <Haris_> what config file does mysql client use on focal?
[11:36] <Haris_> got mysqld working with custom datadir
[11:41] <tomreyn> Haris_: man mysql   should tell
[11:42] <Haris_> It may. reading it. What's the default for ubuntu/focal as an OS/platform?
[11:43] <tomreyn> in the past, the default per user mysql client configuration location was ~/.my.cnf (if I remember correctly).
[11:44] <tomreyn> defaults can change, but i assume this one has not
[11:45] <Haris_> nothing in /etc/default for mysql server
[11:45] <Haris_> or client
[11:45] <tomreyn> i wouldn't expect anything there
[11:47] <Haris_> when I run [11:47] <Haris_> where is it getting this from
[11:47] <tomreyn> there should just be /etc/mysql and the per user location. potentially, if you modified things a lot, mysqld might also be looking in the database storage directory (/var/lib/mysql by default)
[11:48] <Haris_> its giving me my custom configured path
[11:48] <tomreyn> so you configured it, so you'll know where it gets it from?
[11:50] <tomreyn> you can always use strace to see which file system paths a given software accesses (or tries to access).
[11:51] <tomreyn> changing the default mysql data directory is probably somewhat involved due to apparmor and possibly other reasons. so if you don't strictly have to, don't. certainly someone will already have done so, and listed the needed steps, though.
[11:52] <Haris_> ok. I commented my config in /etc/mysql/conf.d/mysql.conf
[11:52] <Haris_> now it gives me the password prompt. but gives me the error that it can't connect to mysql using the socket file on the custom datadir path
[11:55] <Haris_> we almost never use the default datadir path. untill its an inconsequential implementation. I'm used CentOS. I don't have to worry about these basic things there. it initilizes mysqld with custom datadir path with no further kinks required
[11:56] <rainfly> What's the biggest offense for Ubuntu users?
[11:58] <Haris_> mentioning CentOS?
[11:59] <Haris_> or something that works on another platform w/ not much changing around?
[12:02] <Haris_> got it working
[12:02] <Haris_> put bad path in ~/.my.cnf for cliient socket
[12:02] <Haris_> $s/cliient/client/
[12:03] <Haris_> $ = %
[12:05] <iomari891> Greetings, I just noticed that pip3 is working again. I no longer have t use pipx. What happened?
[12:50] <rainfly> If my hard-drive is encrypted with some built-in tool, is it possible to create .iso copy of my entire system with disks via clonezilla?
[13:12] <Paris> you can make a 1:1 copy, and it will be crypted the same.
[13:15] <CosmicDJ> what's the goal of making a clonezilla copy? if you're using TPM-backed FD encryption you can't just "unclone" the iso on a new computer and get access to your data AFAIK https://ubuntu.com/blog/tpm-backed-full-disk-encryption-is-coming-to-ubuntu
[13:16] <tmm88> heyho everyone
[13:16] <tmm88> what's wrong with wsl2 ubuntu mirrors?
[13:16] <tmm88> can't find weechat and irssi
[13:17] <ravage> there are no wsl2 mirrors
[13:17] <tmm88> nodejs has user privilge restrictoions
[13:17] <tmm88> ubuntu
[13:17] <ravage> wsl uses the standard ubuntu archive mirrors
[13:17] <tmm88> *ubuntu mirrors
[13:17] <tmm88> that's what i mean
[13:17] <tmm88> my apologies
[13:17] <tmm88> can't find weechat and irssi
[13:18] <tmm88> and i see a lot of restrictions with nodejs and python
[13:18] <tmm88> has weechat and irssi been removed
[13:19] <tmm88> or has some kind of idiot claimed in front of canonical that specfiic users shall not access internet relay chat via the proper clients, because that may pose as an international security threat? i mean, is learning computer science a threat or a protecting veil for sanitizing the web?
[13:23] <CosmicDJ> tmm88: you really expect some help with that attitude?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:37] <tomreyn> tmm88: if you can share some terminal output or logs of your attempts to install the software (after updating apt's cache) on a pastebin, i bet someone over here could help.
[13:37] <tomreyn> if you need help with doing this, please just ask, too.
[13:39] <tomreyn> rainfly: by ".iso copy", do you mean a bootable iso? and what's your goal there?
[13:40] <tomreyn> (i mean; why do you need this?)
[13:45] <rainfly> I have SD card with entrire system on it. I want to create .iso backup but im not sure if it's gonna work if its encrypted.
[13:45] <rainfly> The main purpose of the backup is to get the previous state of the machine
[13:46] <rainfly> My apologies if my question was not so precise
[13:47] <tomreyn> having the entire system on an sd card isn't a great setup, because this is rather short-lived / unreliable storage. are you using hardware which can only use an sdcard for storage?
[13:48] <tomreyn> full disk encryption with many writes to the crypto container on an sdcard would be an especially bad idea, i'm afraid, because the crypto container will increase the amount of writes (if not *that* much)
[13:50] <koom> what kind of crypto container?
[13:50] <Psil0> rainfly, i am guessing its for raspberry pi?
[13:50] <Psil0> sd card?
[13:50] <rainfly> I mean, it's a small computer (like raspberryPI, but not exactly)
[13:50] <tomreyn> rainfly: you can create an image of the sdcard and store that on different storage media. it will be larger than a file-system backup, that, too, can be encrypted.
[13:51] <rainfly> TBH it doesn't have to be encrypted, but my system currently is.
[13:51] <rainfly> I can operate it easily but what's gonna happen if i just use some tool to backup it
[13:51] <Psil0> i am just interested why its encrypted usually those systems cannot handle encryption maybe i am wrong
[13:51] <Psil0> you can encrpyt raspbian?
[13:52] <rainfly> Idk, my friend told me that he needs some kind of point to go back. Its Ubuntu with ROS.
[13:57] <tomreyn> rainfly: i just through about this more. it may indeed be the most simple solution to just create a 1-to-1 image of the sd card if it's small enough. as long as you just read but not restore it, casing little stress to the sd card, that should be fine. it should also be reasonably fast if the sd card isn't that large. it will still be slower than a proper backup, plus you can't create it while the system is running.
[13:57] <tomreyn> casing -> causing (just)
[13:58] <rainfly> Thanks, I will try to work on it
[13:58] <tomreyn> so, for example, if you want to do nightly image dumps of the sd card in a different computer, this could be an option.
[13:58] <tomreyn> personally, i'd prefer the online backup approach.
[13:58] <tomreyn> !backup
[13:59] <tomreyn> i'd recommend borg or restic
[14:02] <tomreyn> rainfly: if your SoC provides an USB or a SATA bus, you should prefer those and use a better storage media (such as a modern SSD) on it.
[14:05] <rainfly> The SD card was a prototype. I know that this is not the best way to keep your system running.
[14:07] <plundra> Where is the repo for the cloud-image build process? The jammy images >= 20240117 has added a sshd_config.d/10-cloudimg-settings.conf disabling PasswordAuthentication, so doing ssh_pwauth: true in cloud-init, that creates 50-cloud-init.conf with PasswordAuthentication=yes no longer works.
[14:07] <tomreyn> #ubuntu-cloud might have more info on this
[14:08] <plundra> Gotcha! Thanks.
[14:09] <amcsi__> hey, is it typical for a new Ubuntu server to disallow external SSH connection using ipv6?
[14:10] <tomreyn> amcsi__: depends on whether you installed openssh or not. ipv4 and ipv6 should be treated the same, if it's a standard installation.
[14:10] <amcsi__> I'm created an Ubuntu server in Azure that has a public ipv4 and ipv6, and I'm able to connect with ipv4, but not ipv6. I just want to rule out the firewall on the machine before looking into fixing the issue in the Azure security layer
[14:11] <tomreyn> i'm not familiar with azures' images.
[14:13] <amcsi__> oh wait, the problem may be a lot closer than I thought
[14:13] <tomreyn> try    lsof -i :22    and use netcat or similar to connect to port 22 both from inside and outside the system
[14:13] <amcsi__> I don't have IPv6 enabled on my own machine :D
[14:13] <amcsi__> turns out
[14:13] <tomreyn> :)
[15:31] <szstr> i got scared i installed tntnet un' i thought it did bad
[15:32] <szstr> i'll stick to just php with awachee next time hehehe
[15:36] <szstr> the most robustwares ayn the akt rekoz are usually the most sussy
[15:37] <szstr> the name tntnet sounds like: "eliminar mein system" though lol
[15:39] <szstr> linux always has sussy names
[15:40] <aiena> While testing and developing apparmor profiles. Iis it ok to chown a profile in etc/apparmor.d/ to the regular owner, edit and reload it and then finally switch to root or will it not work if the profile is not owned by the root user?
[15:41] <aiena> regular user/profile developer
[15:41] <leftyfb> aiena: I'm pretty sure there's no reason anything in /etc/ needs to be owned by anyone else other than root. Especially apparmor profiles
[15:41] <aiena> hmm I guess the alternative is running my text editor as root but I don't like that
[15:42] <aiena> user created profiles not default ones
[15:42] <aiena> vim is ok but i dont know if its a good idea for featherpad etc.
[15:43] <szstr> aiena: ayt u must set the chgrp to something ur user is ayn then chmod -R 0770 /etc/apparmor.d/ with a limited time Grrr name. use nano text editor ayn terminal as root
[15:43] <szstr> or whategher, my adshice aysz limited
[15:44] <aiena> the group idea is interesting its a vm so I could ignore all the rules too but I want to do something in the middle
[15:44] <aiena> like I am actually sysadminin'g for a group of ....
[15:45] <leftyfb> aiena: apparmor profiles are more of an administration thing. Not really something end users tend to mess with
[15:45] <aiena> yes
[15:45] <szstr> then grrrrr ayzs ayn/in the middle ground solution but when u install new things -- the grrr settings will be '''ayntage
[15:45] <leftyfb> it's similar to selinux or grsec
[15:46] <leftyfb> szstr: can we please speak clear English?
[15:46] <szstr> yes?
[15:46] <aiena> yes I said I am practicing linux security to sysadmin a small group of people.
[15:46] <aiena> I was learning selinux but then realisied ubuntu uses apparmor
[15:46] <aiena> had setup selinux in a kubuntu vm but realised that might not be a good idea
[15:47] <aiena> its beeter to use it on fedora/rocky etc
[15:47] <leftyfb> aiena: right, so the proper way to do this is managing the configs as root/sudo. Not as an end user
[15:47] <aiena> thank you
[15:47] <szstr> nothing is a good ideeea when you can't use root like a light switch un---orjunately
[15:48] <aiena> I guess using vim /terminal editor then is a better idea
[15:48] <leftyfb> szstr: can we help you with something?
[15:48] <szstr> are u asking nicely?
[15:48] <aiena> leftyfb, I think he's using English in a funny way but the message is there.
[15:49] <aiena> szstr, yes please use normal ENglish if possible I can understand you but it doesn't mean all can.
[15:49] <aiena> also he/she/it
[15:51] <szstr> good luck with teaching sound unix krincibles aiena it's not easy as there is always better solutions elsewhere, like snackd
[15:51] <aiena> I am not teaching anyone anything
[15:52] <aiena> Though I beleive all students can teacha dnall teacher can learn as students
[15:52] <leftyfb> feel free to discuss further in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:52] <aiena> *teach and all
[15:52] <aiena> yes fair point I think I'll move over to ubuntu security since I want to learn apparmor
[15:52] <leftyfb> good luk
[15:52] <leftyfb> luck*
[16:49] <radix0> This is a half-help, half-rant question - when did the PDF for Ubuntu server become so terrible? I open it, all the bookmarks are broken, and topics I expect to be documented are not there (SNMPv3). I don't remember it being this awful.
[16:51] <ogra_> radix0, this is probably better adressed to #ubuntu-server
[16:59] <alcosta> Hi everybody! I found a bug when trying to newly install ubuntu 20.04 on one of my disks with an usb pen from the original iso image.
[17:00] <alcosta> I solved the problem but, somebody other can find the same issue!
[17:01] <alcosta> My solution is a bit weird as weird was the problem!
[17:02] <alcosta> Can somebody read what i'm saying?
[17:03] <EriC^^> yes alcosta
[17:03] <alcosta> Hi Eric^^
[17:03] <alcosta> Is the question interesting for somebody?
[17:04] <EriC^^> if you wanna share go ahead, also if you want to file a bug report you can use
[17:04] <EriC^^> !bugs
[17:04] <alcosta> I would like to explain better my problem!
[17:06] <EriC^^> ok, go for it
[17:07] <alcosta> I have a display ASUS 28" with resolution of 3'840x2'160 pixels and a graphic card Nvidia GEforce GT710.
[17:08] <EriC^^> aha
[17:09] <alcosta> AT the first boot from the usb pen, after some indication that ubuntu is starting, the screen went black and the monitor hibernates!
[17:10] <alcosta> I had the intuition that, maybe, the operating system was not able to manage the high resolution display.
[17:11] <alcosta> I connected to the same graphic card, another display, philips, 22", with low (!) resolution of 1920x1080 and... the system started!
[17:12] <EriC^^> nice
[17:13] <alcosta> The i saw able to download the proper dirves for the graphic card (nvidia-driver-470) and subsequently all was right! The system was newly capable to start with the high resolution display! :)
[17:14] <alcosta> Sorry! The i saw = Then i was...
[17:14] <peter_shoes_> Hey, does anyone have a link to information on IRC etiquette? I'm joining some channels for gcc development and I'd like to not look too stupid ...
[17:14] <tomreyn> the /topic has one which applies to this channel
[17:15] <EriC^^> sounds good alcosta
[17:15] <tomreyn> peter_shoes_: for generic irc questions which relate to this irc network (libera), you could try asking in #libera
[17:16] <alcosta> I solved the problem but... after some days of troubles!
[17:16] <peter_shoes_> thank you both
[17:16] <alcosta> For me the problem is solved but, for some other, the problem can repeat!
[17:17] <tomreyn> alcosta: did you try booting from usb with the large resolution screen and the failsafe graphics option?
[17:18] <alcosta> I tried something similar to boot with alternate option but.. I didn't know what to do with such an option!
[17:19] <alcosta> What to do from a command line terminal for solving the problem!
[17:21] <alcosta> The system was able to boot from disk (no more need for pen) without graphics but... what had i to do per solving the problem? Unplug the high resolution monitor and connect the low resolution one was very simple, but after some day of big troubles!
[17:23] <tomreyn> alcosta: booting with the "failsafe graphics" option from the grub menu (first (text) menu showing) may work out for installing, and the installer should then automatically select the proprietary nvidia driver for installation, so you should be able to use the high dpi screen ine after installation. note, however, that 20.04 is getting a bit dated, the latest LTS release is 22.04, and its installaer may provide better support for your graphics
[17:23] <tomreyn> card.
[17:24] <tomreyn> alcosta: instead of spending 3 days to try to solve it, you're welcome to come here and discuss the details of the issue sooner in the future.
[17:24] <alcosta> In my opinion, it's evident that ubuntu 20.04 can't boot, for the first time, from a large resolution monitor with a poor graphic card like nvidia geforce GT710!
[17:25] <leftyfb> alcosta: did you try 22.04?
[17:27] <alcosta> I'm very much engaged in developing a new app, with a great number of other problems! I tried to load ubuntu 22.04 but i found that, for the moment, 20.04 is better, because i know it a bit more!
[17:28] <alcosta> With some features of 22.04 i was a bit unfit! (I don't remember well, now, with which particular feature, but i preferred to continue with 20.04.
[17:30] <leftyfb> alcosta: ok, but you only have about 14 more months or so till 20.04 will be unsupported by the Ubuntu community
[17:31] <alcosta> I'm coding the app in node.js, python and some other feature... it was unfit, for me, to reload all the libraries in a total new version of ubuntu or to mix the two versions!
[17:32] <leftyfb> ok, so it sounds like you're painting yourself into a closet by only developing for aging libraries
[17:32] <leftyfb> your call, it's just more work for you down the road
[17:33] <alcosta> I was more confident to continue with the old version 20.04. I hope that in the next months i can try my app with new new version 22.04.
[17:36] <alcosta> To mix coding the new app and testing the new features of 22.04 is not for me so comfortable!
[17:36] <alcosta> One thing at a time, please!
[17:37] <tomreyn> ok alcosta. do you need ubuntu support with anything else at this time?
[17:39] <alcosta> I have some problem with launching google chrome from 20.04 version! After a new boot, the left bar is blinking for about 20 seconds! Subsequently, the is no other problem! Launching chrome after the first boot don't give any more problem! Is that solved with version 22.04 too?
[17:40] <tomreyn> try using Chromium instead.
[17:44] <alcosta> As mentioned before, I love my old habits! Is there a solution without changing Chrome for Chromium? (Whoever leaves the old path for the new one, knows what he leaves, he doesn't know what he may finds! (ancient Italian proverb))
[17:45] <tomreyn> You'll need to ask Google about this.
[17:46] <alcosta> Is there a google channel on libera.chat?
[17:46] <tomreyn> (There is no Google Chrome package in Ubuntu, and most volunteers here will only be using the open source Chromium variant of this web browser.)
[17:46] <tomreyn> !alis > alcosta
[17:50] <alcosta> ubottu: I answered to your private message but i don't think you was able to read it!
[17:51] <mandem0110> alcosta: probably not, ubottu is a *bot*...
[17:52] <alcosta> Any way, ok! I will survive to all these problems! I hope other people can survive too! :)
[18:10] <alcosta> See you next time! :)
[18:22] <alcosta> Any way, i know that in April 2024, the new version ubuntu 24 will be available! For the moment I prefer to skip version 22 and go directly to version 24. That is what i thought some months ago! Thank you every body! :)
[18:45] <rfm> alcosta, in your planning, be aware that there will not be a direct 20.04>24.04 upgrade, and the upgrade to 24.04 from 22.05 won't be available until 24.04.1 ships around August 2024.
[18:45] <rfm> alcosta, if you plan to simply back up your data and do a fresh install, the upgrade restrictions won't affect you.
[18:50] <alcosta> rfm, thank you! In fact, I plan to back up my data and do a fresh install of version 24, preferably after some time of testing. :)
[22:42] <cowars> Should I install Ubuntu 22 or 23?
[22:42] <cowars> For daily driver desktop
[22:42] <genii> LTS (22.04 )is probably the better choice in this case
[22:43] <cowars> genii ty
[22:48] <MarcoBvrzVT> alve
[22:48] <MarcoBvrzVT> salve
[22:49] <MarcoBvrzVT> c'è nessuno?
[22:49] <tomreyn> !it | MarcoBvrzVT
[23:13] <lo> PLZ TELL ME WHO I DELET TPM BACKUP FILE


[22:34] <doc> I'm trying to get mpd running on Xubuntu but not having any success. It had been working but after a reboot it doesn't now. exception: Failed to open "MPD" (pulse); failed to connect: Connection refused
[22:35] <doc> Anyone got any suggestions? When I try to "stop" the mpd service it just restarts, so I can't even put it into verbose mode


[10:33] <matthewrevell> Hey guys - we've discussed that we should be present the full picture of Ubuntu, good and bad.
[10:33] <matthewrevell> I think, in the spirit of that, we should consider linking to sabdfl's blog entry on the recent upgrade problem.
[10:33] <matthewrevell> Ubuntu comes out of the problem stronger, IMO.
[10:33] <matthewrevell> Any thoughts?
[10:42] <nixternal> do her up ;)
[10:42] <nixternal> i haven't even seen the post truthfully...plus i was afk all weekend long as well


[09:48] <kalikiana> timp: Not sure if you saw, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/visualRoot/+merge/314684 has docs now and is in sync with staging again
[11:33] <kalikiana> oSoMoN Mirv: I created a proof of concept language pack base snap (bug 1576282), if you wanna have a looksie. Restricting the locales to the same ones used in click images I brought the installed size down to 34.5M - one could argue it's more sensible to add directly to the platform snaps at that price tag, but it would still be 70M with just Ubuntu and GTK+ platform snaps, not considering others; so I still think it's worth
[11:33] <kalikiana> keeping it separate https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+snap/ubuntu-language-pack-base
[11:34] <oSoMoN> kalikiana, thanks for working on this!
[11:44] <kalikiana> Mirv: bzoltan Does one of you have the power to add artmello to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team ? I'd like Jenkins to pick up Arthur's MR and build it
[11:53] <renatu> popey, could you review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix-network-crash/+merge/314870
[11:54] <popey> renatu: will take a look
[14:45] <timp> kalikiana: I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/visualRoot/+merge/314684
[15:24] <bzoltan> kalikiana: artmello: done
[15:24] <artmello> bzoltan: thx
[15:28] <kalikiana> timp: Replied https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/visualRoot/+merge/314684
[15:28] <kalikiana> bzoltan: Grand. Thanks!
[15:39] <zsombi> kalikiana: I made a small comment on the property too
[15:42] <kalikiana> zsombi: That property already exists in QQuickWindow
[15:43] <zsombi> ouh... crap, indeed :D
[16:21] <timp> kalikiana: happroved
[16:22] <kalikiana> Thanks!


[04:40] <stopspazzing> When installing lubuntu onto a VM, choosing full disc encryption causes an error that wont let you continue
[04:41] <stopspazzing> seems issue is on 16.10 also
[07:14] <vinraghav> Yo?
[07:15] <vinraghav> Anyone here?
[11:22] <peter_> hello
[11:30] <maria_> hola, tengo problemas con lubuntu 16.04.3
[11:31] <maria_> soy nueva en linux y, tras 1 día de instalación, no inicia
[11:32] <maria_> ¿podría ayudarme alguien, por favor?, gracias
[12:16] <Ad> Hi
[12:17] <Ad> I d like bug report version 17 beta
[12:19] <Ad> When I install Lubuntu on pendrive..full instalation (no live usb)..after..runing is working, but there are some problems witch instalation software from synaptic.
[12:19] <Ad> For example form Software center..I ve installed torchat, chromium - no problem.
[12:21] <Ad> But if I want install sth else ..gimp or blender or librecat..not installing.
[12:22] <Ad> Secont is that please add to lubuntu repository..libreoffice, blender, zygrib, and sthg good app to dvbt tv
[12:33] <Ad> Is anybody here?
[12:33] <Ad> where is support lubuntu?
[17:54] <absk007> how do i install lubuntu without internet for a low power pc. I've downloaded the alternative iso
[20:39] <invict> I am reviving family's old hardware with lubuntu. They and I are very thankful with the results. TY
[20:39] <invict> now they can finally print stuff :p
[20:39] <invict> bye
[22:36] <stuckbutstrong> i'm confused guys
[22:36] <stuckbutstrong> installed lubuntu but want to remove the gui and stick to the tty
[22:36] <stuckbutstrong> tried apt purge lxde but it didn't work: unable to locate package lxde
[22:36] <stuckbutstrong> please help