[00:02] <zerothis> I'm having trouble installing virtualbox. The build failed for the kernel module. and "No suitable module for running kernel found." The installer suggested I install the sources from my kernel, I literally have everything "2.6.24-21" installed under adept. I guess that doesn't include source? how do install 2.6.24-21 source? vbox-install.log <http://pastebin.com/d698a801b>
[00:05] <zoredache> try a sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-source-2.6.24
[00:06] <zoredache> or what you may really need is the headers... sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[00:16] <zerothis> zoredache: thanks, attempting that now
[00:57] <OilFurnace> ext3 sucks
[01:05] <zoredache> oh?
[01:28] <GasFurnace> !ops
[01:28] <cody-somerville> GasFurnace, yes?
[01:29] <GasFurnace> hi
[01:30] <GasFurnace> !ops
[01:30] <GasFurnace> lol
[01:31] <GasFurnace> !ops
[01:33] <scopecreep> hehe
[01:34] <scopecreep> normally id be asking an obscure question, but *gasp* everything is working perfectly. yay xubuntu
[01:34] <cody-somerville> :D
[01:37] <scopecreep> oh can anyone recommend some cool looking mono fonts for my x terminal
[01:39] <cody-somerville> I enjoy monospace 12
[01:52] <knome> i like monospace 9
[01:57] <scopecreep> anyone know how to make the fonts in firefox look decent? everything else is fine but ffx
[01:58] <scopecreep> im running ibex
[02:08] <Eeyore-Jr> i need some help determining why my internet connection is not working
[02:14] <Chickengeorge> 123 Party
[02:14]  * Chickengeorge gives some Knockwurst
[02:14] <cody-somerville> No.
[02:14] <Chickengeorge> why?
[02:15] <cody-somerville> Take it to #xubuntu-offtopic :P
[02:15] <cody-somerville> We like to keep this channel for support
[02:15] <Chickengeorge> i am new on linux and i choosed Xubuntu
[02:15] <Chickengeorge> it is very good
[02:15] <cody-somerville> \o/
[02:15] <cody-somerville> w00t
[02:15] <cody-somerville> :)
[02:15] <Chickengeorge> i use it now since about 1 month and  its super
[02:16] <Chickengeorge> i am new in irc too.. so excuse if i make mistakes
[02:16] <Chickengeorge> can i ask about amarok here too? or just Xubuntu?
[02:17] <Chickengeorge> hello`all 58 users sleeping?
[02:18] <dsmith_> Responses to “NetBSD: An alternative to Xubuntu and Ubuntu Lite for machines with low specs.” yeah, recommend BSD then get a sh*t load complaints in the mailing lists when it doesn’t detect your hardware correctly. good one.
[02:18] <dsmith_> lol
[02:18] <dsmith_> <-- not sleeping
[02:18] <scopecreep> haha
[02:19] <Chickengeorge> i am lucky with xubuntu since now...
[02:19] <scopecreep> i spent 3 weeks kicking netbsd around my apartment
[02:19] <scopecreep> it doesnt like laptops for some reason
[02:19] <dsmith_> i only recommned *buntu's and linux mint distros now
[02:20] <Chickengeorge> yeah... me too
[02:20] <dsmith_> yes, I have used xubuntu in a office, I install on 4 old machines
[02:20] <scopecreep> i actually ran gentoo for a while successfully, but thats as hardcore as ive ever gotten
[02:20] <dsmith_> owner was like amazed that he could still use the machines
[02:20] <Chickengeorge> i have xubuntu here on 1ghz 380RAM 40GIG HD 128mb GFX
[02:20] <dsmith_> I told him to repalce all the power supplies, or buy spare at least and think about backing up the drives and eventually swapping those out as well
[02:21] <dsmith_> and a few spare amchines
[02:21] <dsmith_> *machines
[02:21] <Chickengeorge> 25Euro Epray-PC and it likes xubuntu very much
[02:21] <dsmith_> I sinallyed on P3 800's
[02:21] <dsmith_> Installed
[02:22] <Chickengeorge> thats nice too........
[02:23] <dsmith_> I wish I had kept my P2 300
[02:23] <dsmith_> like all the rest of the uninformed, I was told that there was nothing I could install on it
[02:23] <dsmith_> so junk
[02:23] <dsmith_> :(
[02:23] <Chickengeorge> one of my friend wants to try it on a ibm-thinkpad 700mhz laptop but he has problems with screen-resolution bigger than 800X600 he told me
[02:23] <dsmith_> I could still be using it to this day
[02:23] <Chickengeorge> is it possible to have bigger resolutions on this machine?
[02:24] <dsmith_> i dont know
[02:24] <Chickengeorge> okay.... n.p
[02:24] <Chickengeorge> do you know some informations about a amarok-script?
[02:31] <dsmith_> hmmm?
[02:33] <Chickengeorge> yeah
[02:47] <scopecreep> how do i change my system to a static ip?  my interface isnt in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:49] <xxploit> Hello, im using the 8.10 beta and when logging into the desktop the update manager pops up right in the front of the screen and checks for updates(autostarted). Ive disabled the autostart apps but yet it still comes up everytime anyone familar with stopping it from starting
[02:50] <scopecreep> have you updated your system yet?  you might want to do that once to get caught up
[02:50] <xxploit> yes everything is updated
[02:51] <cody-somerville> xxploit, might be from your saved session
[02:52] <xxploit> umm where does xfce save the sessions? and can I just delete the session file? Im pretty sure I choose to not save sessions but that does sound like it mite be whats up
[02:57] <cody-somerville> I forget tbh
[02:57] <cody-somerville> :P
[03:12] <K_Dallas> Good evening guys! Q: In prior to 8.04 versions, I used to change my display in xorg.config but in 8.04 and 8.10 there is barely anything there. How do I manipulate video card's resolution, etc? Thanks
[03:32] <omfgitsashark> hey can anybody help me install a theme
[03:33] <omfgitsashark> anybody online right now
[03:43] <omfgitsashark> hey anybody there
[03:47] <vocal6> yes
[03:47] <vocal6> we are all here, staring at your words
[04:15] <Jimmy0815> rapunzell
[04:16]  * Jimmy0815 Gives 500 Sausages to all here!!!
[04:17] <Jimmy0815> hello?
[04:17] <Jimmy0815> is here the chanel?
[04:17] <Jimmy0815> wassn scheis
[04:17] <cody-somerville> Jimmy0815, what do you need help with?
[04:18] <Jimmy0815> hello... i was just bored but still experimenting with my xubunto.. so i came here to chat relaxed
[04:19] <Jimmy0815> do you have any great hints and tricks for me? i am anwe Xubuntu
[04:22] <cody-somerville> Try the compositor :)
[04:48] <omfgitsashark> hey anybody therer
[04:49] <omfgitsashark> i downloaded and unpacked a theme but when i try to drag and drop it into the theme folder it wont let me
[04:50] <favro> use the .themes folder in your home dir
[04:51] <omfgitsashark> where is that located
[04:53] <omfgitsashark> i cant finid a home diriectory
[04:53] <omfgitsashark> well themes in a home diirectory
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> your home dir is /home/<your_username>
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> also known as ~/
[04:55] <omfgitsashark> im looking right now and i can see hidden filies
[04:55] <omfgitsashark> and nothinng about theme
[04:55] <favro> .themes is a hidden foder - ctrl+h when thunar is open
[04:55] <favro> make the folder then
[04:55] <omfgitsashark> name it .theme
[04:56] <favro> yep
[04:56] <omfgitsashark> ok
[04:56] <omfgitsashark> cool
[04:56] <omfgitsashark> and now it will show up
[04:57] <omfgitsashark> it didnt show up on the themes list
[04:59] <favro> got a link for the theme - where you got it from?
[06:02] <owen1> in the middle of installing firefox i get this: "the swap file or partition that was found in uswsup's configuration file is not active" any idea?
[06:13] <Maximilian1st> cody-somerville, Hi, the download link on ubuntu for the xubuntu rc is wrong "http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta"
[06:14] <cody-somerville> Thats because that page is for the beta
[06:14] <Maximilian1st> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/8.10/beta
[06:14] <Maximilian1st> oh
[06:14] <Maximilian1st> but I'm sure I clicked on the rc ad
[06:15] <Maximilian1st> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta
[06:15] <Maximilian1st> that is the link from the web site for the rc
[06:16] <Maximilian1st> it definitely says "Can't wait? Download the release candidate now."...
[06:18] <Maximilian1st> And the page for Ubuntu states "rc" http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[06:19] <Maximilian1st> Anyway, have a good night.
[06:20] <cody-somerville> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc
[06:22] <cody-somerville> er
[06:22] <cody-somerville> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/810rc
[06:48] <Nonie> hello guys
[08:00] <MHz128> hello world!
[08:02] <ml> hello
[08:06] <MHz128> How can I search apt-get repo's for what version of Flash they are serving?
[08:09] <ml> apt-cache search flash
[08:10] <MHz128> ml, awesome thanks! how can I search my system for the current flash version?
[08:10] <Myrtti> apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[08:11] <ml> it's better if go to abobe site and download the bew version
[08:11] <ml> *new
[08:11] <ml> works better for me than nonfree version
[08:11] <MHz128> 10 4, so the repo version isn't always the latest?
[08:12] <MHz128> should I download the deb or apt package?
[08:12] <ml> one minute
[08:14] <ml> apt-get install abode-flashplugin or the deb from abode your choice
[08:14] <ml> the one in the repos is the latest
[08:14] <MHz128> apt-get will get me the latest version 10?
[08:14] <MHz128> ohhh ko
[08:14] <MHz128> ok
[08:14] <ml> yes
[08:15] <MHz128> Is there any way to automatically update these packages? or update the entire system?
[08:16] <ml> try apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[08:16] <MHz128> cool
[08:16] <ml> to list the install pkgs do a dpkg -l
[08:17] <MHz128> hmm, apt-get : couldn't find package adobe-flashplugin
[08:18] <ml> that's oddd I see it here
[08:18] <MHz128> do I need to add a new repo?
[08:18] <Myrtti> flashplugin-nonfree should install it
[08:19] <MHz128> I dont understand the nonfree aspect, does that mean Adobe?
[08:19] <ml> Myrtti that's the old version 10 is much better
[08:19] <MHz128> nonfree is 9.0 r124
[08:19] <Myrtti> ml: it's totally dependant on *which* version of ubuntu you're running
[08:19] <ml> that's justa a version
[08:20] <ml> i'm xubuntu 8.04
[08:20] <MHz128> Myrtti, how so? Im running hardy
[08:21] <ml> but didn't install from the repos I intalled from abobe
[08:21] <ml> the deb file
[08:21] <MHz128> Ill try the deb
[08:22] <ml> MHz128 but do a search first
[08:22] <MHz128> too late
[08:22] <ml> lol
[08:23] <ml> ok, it's just I see i here adobe-flashplugin -Adobe  Flash Player plugin version 10
[08:23] <MHz128> So confused, my system says its already installed
[08:23] <MHz128> do I need to reboot?
[08:23] <ml> it's wasn't in the repos when I instaaled it
[08:24] <ml> no restart your browser
[08:24] <ml> before version 10 the sound was horrible but with 10 it work's great for me now
[08:25] <ml> :)
[08:25] <MHz128> fcool
[08:25] <ml> try a youtube
[08:25] <MHz128> yup seems to work fine
[08:26] <Myrtti> youtube is not the ideal flash benchmark
[08:26] <ml> great :)
[08:26] <Myrtti> since youtube works fine with swfdec too
[08:27] <ml> anybody here try 8.10?
[08:28] <ml> Myrtti what would be better?
[08:30] <Myrtti> vimeo, ted.com etc
[08:32] <ml> can you explain the difference?
[08:33] <Myrtti> between swfdec and flashplugin-nonfree?
[08:33] <ml> using ted.com etc over youtube?
[08:36] <MHz128> thanks ml
[08:37] <ml> np
[08:37] <ml> enjoy
[08:42] <ml> MHz128
[10:49] <Ben_Cs> hello
[10:49] <knome> lo
[10:50] <Ben_Cs> i upgraded to xubuntu 8.10. When i login i have SMB network share, but then it disappears. please help
[10:51] <Ben_Cs> should i stick to LTS, because it's more stable?
[11:04] <zerothis> I installed virtualbox, it didn't work for me, I removed it. But now no soundcards are recognized on my system. I purged it, reinstalled alsa-base, rebooted and still no sound. #vbox set me here.
[14:47] <ReAn> Curious, Can xubuntu run in console mode by default? I.e. boots to console, x only loaded when i manually start it?
[14:48] <knome> ReAn, yes, you can remove gdm from autostart
[14:48] <knome> ReAn, or just remove it completely if you don't want it
[14:50] <ReAn> well basically i wanna set up a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) development server but i want the ability to load X if i need to
[14:50] <ReAn> that's why im looking into xubuntu in the first place (lightweight Window Manager)
[14:50] <knome> ReAn, well you could install ubuntu server edition
[14:50] <TheSheep> or you can remove gmd and tsrat X with startxfce4
[14:50] <knome> ReAn, and then just pull in x packages
[14:50] <TheSheep> *gdm
[14:51] <ReAn> knome: I've been told that has a larger footprint than xubuntu
[14:51] <ReAn> since the server kernel isn't designed for desktop processing
[14:51] <knome> ReAn, if you want maximum minimality, use the minimal cd and install whatever you need
[14:52] <ReAn> xubuntu has a minimal CD?
[14:52] <knome> it's the same for all *ubuntu
[14:52] <knome> because the different flavors are basically just ubuntu with a different WM
[14:52] <knome> /DE
[14:52] <ReAn> http://hex1a4.net/xubuntu/mirror/releases/8.04.1/release/ <--- was unable to find it
[14:53] <knome> !minimal
[14:53] <knome> ReAn, as i said, there is no xubuntu (nor kubuntu or ubuntu) specific minimal
[14:53] <ReAn> i see
[14:53] <knome> ReAn, it is the same for everyone of them
[14:53] <ReAn> but i can install xfse instead of gnome from the minimal cd?
[14:54] <knome> sure.
[14:54] <knome> minimal doesn't install anything you don't *definitely* need to run a system
[14:54] <knome> eg. no x packages neither a desktop environment
[14:54] <vidd> ReAn, if you so desired, you could also choose slim, which is a lighter DM then gdm
[14:55] <knome> vidd, i actually have quite splitted experiences with slim. it's not really any faster on my laptop than gdm
[14:55] <ReAn> then what's the point of the variants? xubuntu, kubuntu, etc.. if they're all exactly the same w/ different WM, i thought they were tuned for the WM as well
[14:55] <knome> ReAn, with some settings packages, software etc... yes
[14:55] <vidd> ReAn, the WM and the apps loaded with those WMs are different
[14:55] <knome> ReAn, but the minimal cd doesn't install those either
[14:56] <ReAn> really all i need is linux core, apache, mysql, php, x, some x-based text editor, and some minimal web-browser basically
[14:57] <knome> ReAn, as i said, if you want maximum minimality/control over pckgs, use minimal cd.
[14:57]  * vidd concurs
[14:57] <ReAn> i can always install packages later w/ atp-get right?
[14:57]  * vidd only installs with the mini.iso
[14:57] <knome> ReAn, sure. that's the point of minimal
[14:57] <vidd> yes
[14:58] <knome> vidd, i've been going towards that too :) my laptop now has openbox with pypanel and no graphical login ;)
[15:14] <Odd-rationale> i've gotten rid of pypanel on my openbox setup... :P
[15:30] <knome> Odd-rationale, so what are you running then?
[15:59] <Odd-rationale> knome: i've realized that i didn't really need one...
[15:59] <knome> hehe ok
[15:59] <knome> so how can you get a quick overview of the apps running?
[15:59] <Odd-rationale> the openbox alt+tab is pretty good for me... ;)
[16:00] <knome> omg
[16:00] <Odd-rationale> also i've linked the client-menu to a keyboard shorcut
[16:00] <knome> i suppose you don't run a lot of apps parallel?
[16:00] <Odd-rationale> the client menu is usually the one you get when you middle click the desktop.
[16:00] <knome> hmm
[16:00] <Odd-rationale> well, i really only use two apps, firefox and terminator
[16:00] <knome> didn't know that kind of stuff existed
[16:00] <knome> interesting
[16:01] <Odd-rationale> ocasionally gimp
[16:01] <knome> yeah
[16:01] <knome> this doesn't apply to my laptop, but on my desktop pc i have two displays
[16:01] <knome> so i usually have 15+ windows open
[16:01] <Odd-rationale> whoah. what do you do with all those?
[16:01] <knome> just because there is space to open that extra thunar window.
[16:02] <vinnl> I often have two or three Thunar windows, Bluefish, Firefox, Epiphany, Xchat, emesene a few windows and perhaps Pidging :)
[16:02] <vinnl> *Pidgin
[16:02] <knome> text editor, usually a few firefoxes (with multiple tabs inside of course), thunderbird, amarok, vmware (with it's own windows), notes plugin, a few terminals, a few thunar windows...
[16:03] <Odd-rationale> vinnl: firefox AND epiphany? :?
[16:03] <vinnl> Odd-rationale, yeah, Gmail crashes my Firefox :(
[16:03] <knome> oh, sometimes ff+epiphany+midori
[16:03] <vinnl> Of course, I also could have referred to
[16:03] <vinnl> !find epiphany
[16:03] <vinnl> :P
[16:03] <knome> (testing websites)
[16:03] <vinnl> !info epiphany
[16:03] <vinnl> ^.^
[16:04] <vinnl> And of course, sometimse Opera and IE and Midori as well to test websites :)
[16:04] <knome> yus
[16:04] <knome> and maybe dosbox running nhl'93
[16:04] <Odd-rationale> i'm willing to use firefox even though it might be slower... nothing really competes with it... :P
[16:05] <vinnl> Exactly
[16:05] <Odd-rationale> i'm addicted to some extensions anyways... :D
[16:05] <knome> i'm trying to get rid of firefox.
[16:05] <knome> i'm so hardcore webdev i don't usually need the webdev extension either
[16:05] <knome> or i'm too lazy to open it
[16:06] <Odd-rationale> my top ff extensions are: adblock plus, foxmark, and vimperator
[16:06] <vinnl> Ubiquity ftw :P
[16:06] <Odd-rationale> i couldn't live without those extensions... :P
[16:06] <vinnl> knome, don't you love the Outline feature? It's a real life-saver to me
[16:06] <vinnl> And the delicious.com thingy is awesome as well
[16:07] <knome> kind of yes, but usually i don't come into situations i had to use it
[16:50] <zerothis> Odd-rationale: firefox 2 is faster. there's also several scaled down versions of ff
[16:51] <zerothis> I installed virtualbox, it didn't work for me, I removed it. But now no soundcards are recognized on my system. I purged it, reinstalled alsa-base, rebooted and still no sound. #vbox set me here.
[18:39] <bytor4232> So does anyone know how to patch xfwm4 so I can stop avant from moving the windows to the current desktop?
[18:43] <C-O-B-O-L> Does Xubuntu have a launcher panel like GNOME?
[18:44] <C-O-B-O-L> I was trying to add some icons to the launcher panel - but could not get them to appear. This is a very important function. Thanks in advance!
[18:44] <bytor4232> C-O-B-O-L, its a little hard than with Gnome
[18:45] <bytor4232> you have to add a launcher to he panel first
[18:45] <bytor4232> Then open the properties, run appfinder, and drag the app you want in the launcher to the new launcher, click on the blank one, and delete it.
[18:45] <bytor4232> Sounds confusing, but once you do it a few times, you'll get it.
[18:46] <C-O-B-O-L> bytor4232, thanks for the reply. Doing that right now. Regards!
[18:46] <bytor4232> C-O-B-O-L, Something I wish they would fix for sure.
[18:47] <bytor4232> I'm struggling with another issue.  I don't want to run compiz, but I want to run avant-window-navigator
[18:49] <bytor4232> Whatever I click on an icon thats on another desktop, it refoccuses the window to my current desktop, rather than switching to the other desk.
[18:53] <zoredache> I haven't used avant, but how can you click an icon on a desktop you aren't on?
[18:58] <vidd> zoredache, i think he has his task bar panel app set to display all applications on all desktops
[18:58] <bytor4232> vidd, Correct.
[18:58] <bytor4232> When I do this with a regular panel, I get switched to another desktop.
[18:58] <vidd> by default, this setting will swap bring that desktop to focus if you click that task
[18:59] <bytor4232> Correct.  But in avant, it brings the window to the current desktop.
[18:59] <vidd> ewww
[18:59] <bytor4232> In compiz, i switch desktops.
[19:14] <bytor4232> I heard there was a patch to xfwm4, but so far google has not revealed the answer to me.
[19:16] <Woo> What's the off topic channel called?
[19:22] <zoredache> xubuntu-offtopic
[19:45] <ReAn> ok, this is gonna sound stupid, so please don't hurt me
[19:45] <ReAn> I've installed a basic minimal install of ubuntu from the 5mb disc
[19:45] <ReAn> and i installed xorg & xdm
[19:46] <ReAn> now im a complete noob @ linux, but where do i need to go from here to get a 'usable' X environment?
[19:46] <ReAn> you know... like anything other than a x-enabled console
[19:47] <favro> sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop will make it like xubuntu
[19:47] <favro> and there are other window managers
[19:47] <ReAn> <3
[19:48] <favro> ReAn: oops sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop I meant
[19:48] <mnemoc> hi, how can one permanently unblock the "ring" nm wants to unlock each time I log to connect to my wlan?
[19:49] <ReAn> yea, i read typo fluently
[19:49] <ReAn> :)
[19:49] <ReAn> hrm
[19:49] <ReAn> 1gb, not quite as 'minimal' as i wanted, but ill compromise
[19:49] <ReAn> i just wish i could install more than one thing at a time
[19:49] <ReAn> *shakes fist @ apt*
[19:49] <ReAn> cuz i could be setting up and configuring my apache / mysql / php / svn atm
[19:51] <favro> you can install lots at once - just keep adding options
[19:51] <favro> !lamp
[19:51] <ReAn> well true
[19:51] <ReAn> but
[19:51] <ReAn> it's already going
[19:51] <ReAn> i gotta wait till it's done
[19:51] <favro> like sudo apt-get install thing1 thing2 thing3 etc
[19:51] <ReAn> i know
[19:51] <favro> k
[19:52] <ReAn> but it's already going id want to download LAMP's components seperately so i could configure them while xubuntu-desktop downloads
[19:53] <zoredache> the dpkg/apt system is not designed to allow multiple package managers to work concurrently...  It would be very difficult to do
[19:55] <ReAn> i just wish it was multi-threaded or something
[19:57] <zoredache> I don't think it could be done safely...  About cloest thing that you could probably do safely is have the -d (download only) option of apt-get not lock the files
[21:01] <mnemoc> hi, how can one unlock permanently and for every account the "ring of keys" nm-applet asks to unlock?
[21:08] <Wind67> ++
[21:32] <ReAn> ok
[21:33] <ReAn> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop completed
[21:33] <ReAn> how do i run it? 'startx' ?
[21:34] <favro> that should work - or install gdm for graphical login
[21:35] <ReAn> i have xdm
[21:35] <ReAn> not gdm
[21:35] <favro> sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start   will fire that up
[21:36] <ReAn> awesome, i just rebooted
[21:36] <ReAn> it worked
[21:37] <favro> happy xubuntuing then :)
[21:37] <ReAn> <3
[21:37] <ReAn> now to remember how to change the resolution
[21:37] <ReAn> fuck, that was easy
[21:37] <favro> I use xrandr -s 1400x900
[21:37] <ReAn> <3 xubuntu
[21:38] <favro> !ohmy
[21:38] <ReAn> sorry
[21:38] <favro> np :)
[21:38] <ReAn> i work around hicks a lot
[21:38] <ReAn> :/
[21:38] <favro> hehe
[21:38] <ReAn> i work for a cement company
[21:38] <ReAn> doing all thier comp stuff
[21:41] <ReAn> !lamp
[21:48] <vidd> Woo, hey...sorry for the sudden drop earlier....i got let out of work early and only had 5 minutes to get to the bus
[21:49] <vidd> now im home and locked out of the house =\
[21:49] <vinnl> vidd, you asked me to check whether Synaptic's quick search is still there, right?
[21:49] <vinnl> 0.o
[21:49] <vidd> no...i think tat was knome
[21:49] <vinnl> Oh OK
[21:49] <vinnl> i.e. the person interested in working on the documentation?
[21:50] <vidd> i was interested in possibly doing documentation...but i dont really do muc graphical stuff
[21:51] <vinnl> Oh OK
[21:51] <vidd> all te grapical stuff i do is not part of te default install
[21:53] <ReAn> is there a gui-based package manager for xubuntu? the default install installed a LOT of pointless things, id rather scrape out a bunch of the useless stuff like games, etc...
[21:53] <Odd-rationale> ReAn: synaptics?
[21:53] <ReAn> do i have to find thier package names and axe them w/ apt?
[21:54] <ReAn> <3
[21:54] <vidd> ReAn, you can use the add-remove programs app too
[21:54] <ReAn> gui frontend for apt?
[21:54] <vinnl> Synaptic, gnome-app-install (aka Add/Remove...)
[21:54] <Odd-rationale> ReAn: or you can do the other way around, start with a commnad line install and add what you want...
[21:54] <vinnl> You can even install packagekit to do it :P
[21:54] <vinnl> Or Smart Package Manager as well I believe
[21:54] <ReAn> Odd-rationale: i did start with a minimal install, but installed xubuntu-desktop
[21:55] <vidd> the package name for the games is gnome-games
[21:55] <ReAn> so it just installed ~1.1gb of stuff, i wanna trim down the crap i dont want
[21:55] <ReAn> like gnome-games
[21:55] <Odd-rationale> ReAn: yeah, xubuntu-desktop does pull in a lot of deps...
[21:55] <favro> you should have synaptic package manager in your menu then
[21:55] <ReAn> Odd-rationale: i woulda prefered to build it up one pkg @ a time, but frankly im not that good w/ linux
[21:55] <ReAn> i was presented with a x-desktop and a x-style console
[21:56] <ReAn> so i copped out w/ the bulk package
[21:56] <ReAn> i really only need a text editor & a web-browser
[21:56] <Odd-rationale> ReAn: it is not that difficult... once you are familiar with the command line...
[21:57] <ReAn> well i couldn't find anything online and people here told me to apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[21:57] <Odd-rationale> ReAn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[21:57] <ReAn> memory isn't really the issue, hdd space is
[21:58] <ReAn> and general use
[21:58] <ReAn> dont need much
[21:58] <ReAn> since it's a VM on my laptop
[21:58] <ReAn> but ill check the link out, thanks
[21:58] <Odd-rationale> ReAn: no, that links shows how to build from ground up...
[21:59] <ReAn> awesome
[21:59] <ReAn> thanks
[21:59] <ReAn> just a misleading title :p
[21:59] <Odd-rationale> useful for lowend support, but can be used for any system really...\
[22:00] <Odd-rationale> if you don't want the whole xfce stuff, you can even go with fluxbox or openbox, the guide convers those as well...
[22:00] <Odd-rationale> it would be a good idea to be familiar with nano or vim though...


[14:49] <plars> davidm, asac, anyone?: Can you elaborate more on how this is going to work when we plan for work with stakeholders again after each mileston?  Does this imply more sprints will be needed this cycle?
[14:55] <lool> plars: ECHAN?
[14:56] <plars> yeah, sorry, on a different machine where my chan order is reversed
[15:34] <davidm> plars, no but might have some phone calls
[16:47] <GrueMaster> Speaking of phones, Today was my eligibility date to order the new Verizon Droid.  Order was placed at 12:11am.  "Should" have it tomorrow.  Woot!
[17:23] <plars> GrueMaster: sweet
[17:24] <plars> I'm not on verizon anymore, switched to tmobile and got a G1
[17:24] <plars> GrueMaster: I'll be interested in your experience with it, I think that one uses the new 2.0 version of android right?
[17:24] <GrueMaster> yes


[01:00] <joshp> hey guys, it seems that Debian supercedes Ubuntu in every possible area, is Ubuntu making a comeback?
[01:01] <rbox> go troll somewhere else
[01:02] <joshp> Did I say something wrong? I am till a big fan of ubuntu
[01:03] <andre_> What is the most popular linux distro
[01:05] <rbox> what does popular even mean
[01:05] <andre_> i meant
[01:05] <andre_> what distro have the most users
[01:05] <rbox> theres no way to know
[01:05] <rbox> does it matter?
[01:05] <andre_> Do people think of ubuntu when they first thinx of linux
[01:06] <joshp> Used to be Ubuntu...till I try Debian but that's me. But it is also worth mentioning that based on some reviews Ubuntu has fallen below
[01:06] <andre_> is debian beginner friendly
[01:07] <joshp> The one that works and at the same time pleases the eyes as far as desktop is concerned
[01:07] <joshp> Bugs free, stable, pleasant
[04:38] <asher> $ df -h
[04:38] <asher> df: /run/user/1000/doc: Operation not permitted
[04:38] <asher> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[04:38] <asher> udev             16G     0   16G   0% /dev
[04:38] <asher> tmpfs           3.2G  1.4M  3.2G   1% /run
[04:38] <asher> tmpfs            16G     0   16G   0% /dev/shm
[04:38] <asher> tmpfs           5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
[04:38] <asher> tmpfs           3.2G   56K  3.2G   1% /run/user/1000
[04:38] <asher> does someone have some ideas what to do if my / dir is out of space?
[04:38] <asher> it says i gave it 24 gig.  isnt that enough... how do i see what dirs is causing the problem?
[04:39] <Bashing-om> !info ncdu | asher
[04:40] <asher> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[04:42] <asher> what i wanted to do was allocate more space from /home over to / however the drive is in use.
[04:42] <asher> so there isn't a way to do this?  unless its all command line?
[04:44] <Bashing-om> asher: If you need  bit of head room immediately -for operations- one can remove old boot files -> ' sudo journalctl --vacuum-size=100M ; sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=2weeks '.
[04:45] <asher> so your saying config-5.10.0-23-amd64  initrd.img-5.10.0-23-amd64  System.map-5.10.0-25-amd64  vmlinuz-5.10.0-9-amd64
[04:45] <asher> config-5.10.0-25-amd64  initrd.img-5.10.0-25-amd64  System.map-5.10.0-9-amd64
[04:45] <asher> config-5.10.0-9-amd64   initrd.img-5.10.0-9-amd64   vmlinuz-5.10.0-23-amd64
[04:45] <asher> grub                    System.map-5.10.0-23-amd64  vmlinuz-5.10.0-25-amd64
[04:45] <asher> however those are all small?
[04:45] <Bashing-om> asher: can not operate on a partition that is mounted -in use - One works from a live environment (LiveUSB).
[04:47] <asher> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-5.10.0-25-amd64_5.10.191-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[04:47] <asher>  cannot copy extracted data for './usr/share/doc/linux-headers-5.10.0-25-amd64/changelog.Debian.gz' to '/usr/share/doc/linux
[04:47] <asher> -headers-5.10.0-25-amd64/changelog.Debian.gz.dpkg-new': failed to write (No space left on device)
[04:47] <asher> can i just umount /home?
[04:48] <asher> from a liveusb or something?  maybe thats best?  i have a 1TB drive however the installer didn't detect when did the first install.
[04:49] <Bashing-om> asher: UNmounting home will not free up disk space - all at this point you can do is see what is taking up space and delete what is no longer needed.
[04:50] <asher> https://us04web.zoom.us/j/72738790980?pwd=Ru3zPEgMzq4YU0sN9sZ0okbTcM0ExD.1
[04:50] <asher> can i show you on zoom really quick...?  :)
[04:53] <Bashing-om> asher: I do not use those ytpes of tools - // what you can do is pastebin the output of du -> ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n '.
[04:54] <asher> ;).
[04:54] <asher> 4368	./grub/locale
[04:54] <asher> 2344	./grub/fonts
[04:54] <asher> 2536	./grub/i386-pc
[04:54] <asher> 11608	./grub
[04:54] <asher> 157812	.
[04:54] <asher> all very small
[04:55] <asher> 0	bin
[04:55] <asher> 0	dev
[04:55] <asher> 0	initrd.img
[04:55] <asher> 0	initrd.img.old
[04:55] <asher> 0	lib
[04:55] <asher> 0	lib32
[04:55] <asher> 0	lib64
[04:55] <asher> 0	libx32
[04:55] <asher> 0	proc
[04:55] <asher> 0	sbin
[04:55] <asher> 0	sys
[04:55] <asher> 0	vmlinuz
[04:56] <asher> 0	vmlinuz.old
[04:56] <asher> 4	mnt
[04:56] <asher> 4	srv
[04:56] <asher> 16	lost+found
[04:56] <asher> 100	tmp
[04:56] <asher> 1376	run
[04:56] <asher> 10700	etc
[04:56] <asher> 18792	root
[04:56] <asher> 157812	boot
[04:56] <asher> 1162812	opt
[04:56] <asher> 1359028	var
[04:56] <Disconsented> !ops flood
[04:56] <asher> 7744976	usr
[04:56] <asher> 13771480	media
[04:56] <asher> 25638340	home
[04:58] <asher> i'm using an INDIAN OS called BOSS its kinda a "newish' OS i guess based on DEBIAN.
[05:00] <asher> i have all these -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER> Mar  8 15:36 gentoo
[05:00] <asher> -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER> Mar 15 15:46 gentoo1
[05:00] <asher> -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER> Mar 15 16:08 gentoo2
[05:00] <asher> -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER> Mar 15 16:14 gentoo3
[05:00] <Bashing-om> !Paste asher
[05:00] <asher> ;) SORRY!
[05:01] <Bashing-om> !Pastebin asher
[05:01] <Bashing-om> !pastebin asher
[05:01] <Unit193> Bashing-om: I think you can stop now.
[05:01] <asher> dang i had GIGABYTES of GENTOO problems?  it seems better now!
[05:04] <Bashing-om> asher: as and example of a spare system's du: https://termbin.com/wdks // from terminal commands: ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n | nc termbin.com 9999 '.
[05:05] <Bashing-om> Unit193: Trying to -- tired and mind not co-operting :)
[05:06] <asher> it seems to be working now!  i cleaned out my /media directory i had a lot of bad mounts when they should have been to someplace else using "dd"
[05:07] <Bashing-om> asher: \o/ Good deal
[06:51] <kenyip> interesting, this is my first time to join this chat  group
[06:51] <kenyip> what does this chat group serve for?
[06:53] <Bashing-om> kentucky44448: This channel supports the Ubuntu operating system.
[09:10] <ussr> kon
[09:10] <ussr> nitiha
[09:10] <ussr> hallo
[10:05] <hwpplayer1> hi Ubuntu People !
[10:08] <whiskey76> o/
[10:08] <mandem0110> o/
[10:09] <lasermac> Can someone help to fix the repository? See https://pastebin.com/ZNSTkMQB
[10:11] <xFCFFEFFFFFFFFFF> \o
[10:16] <lasermac> Something wrong in the sources.list. How can it be fxed?
[10:16] <EriC^^> lasermac: the file should be named .list but it's called .lis
[10:17] <lasermac> Eric^^: See https://pastebin.com/ZNSTkMQB for more info
[10:17] <EriC^^> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.lis{,t}
[10:18] <EriC^^> i think this is the main error, error: https://deb.leap.se/client release InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 1E34A1828E207901 LEAP archive signing key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>repository 'https://deb.leap.se/client release InRelease' is not signed.
[10:19] <EriC^^> try to maybe remove that repo then add it again
[10:22] <lasermac> Eric^^: ok, done your suggestion. Updating system gives this info: https://pastebin.com/ZCDtJJA2
[10:25] <EriC^^> lasermac: still somet problem with the repo, maybe contact the maintainer or remove it if you dont need it (rm the .list file)
[10:26] <lasermac> Eric^^: ok, let's remove it. What do I need to key in?
[10:26] <EriC^^> lasermac: can you share 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d' ?
[10:28] <EriC^^> or "tail -v +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" if you havent pastebined ls yet
[10:29] <lasermac> Eric^^: ok, see https://pastebin.com/DBEVJNdP
[10:29] <EriC^^> actually nevermind, from the pastebin the name shows, do "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/leap.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/leap.list.backup"
[10:30] <EriC^^> then "sudo apt update" again
[10:34] <lasermac> Eric^^: ok, done. Still something rotten. See https://pastebin.com/ZRJzF61s
[10:35] <EriC^^> lasermac: i think it's good now, those are just warnings and stuff
[10:36] <EriC^^> W warning N notice i think
[10:37] <EriC^^> should be able to do sudo apt full-upgrade and get the latest packages installed
[10:38] <lasermac> Eric^^: ok, done. But when I update Synaptic this appears. See https://pastebin.com/VKaBZ8Qb
[10:39] <EriC^^> yeah, those are just warnings, but it finishes updating the packages list
[10:40] <EriC^^> the vivaldi repo is using an old method to store the keyring so it warns about it, also it mentions its ignoring the leap repo we renamed
[10:40] <lasermac> Eric^^: ok, thank for the help and info.
[10:42] <EriC^^> lasermac: no problem
[10:44] <lasermac> Eric^^: If the trusted.gpg file is deleted in etc/apt/trusted.gpg will the warnings in synaptic be gone?
[10:49] <EriC^^> lasermac: maybe add it using the new way, type "man apt-key" and go to the section on deprecation and follow the steps as it pertains to the ppa
[10:51] <EriC^^> it seems they want the stuff added to ...trusted.gpg.d/reponame.asc instead of trusted.gpg
[10:53] <EriC^^> about the leap warning, i think if you rename it back to .list from .list.backup but comment out the repo line inside it with a "#" at the start of the line should be good, or just delete the file and put in your notes the repo name in case you need it later
[10:53] <whiskey76> I unzipped two mouse pointer folders to ~/.icons but the new pointers only show when hovering over windows. The default, Yaru, shows when the mouse is over the desktop. How to fix this?
[10:53] <whiskey76> Ubuntu Cinnamon 23.10
[10:54] <lasermac> Eric^^: ok, but that is a bit complicated for me
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> !themes | whiskey76 start here
[10:58] <EriC^^> lasermac: try 'sudo apt-get list' and pastebin
[10:59] <whiskey76> Thanks.
[10:59] <EriC^^> sorry
[10:59] <EriC^^> lasermac: sudo apt-key list
[11:01] <lasermac> Eric^^: Terminal says: E: Invalid operation list
[11:02] <EriC^^> with apt-key ? i made a typo first type
[11:04] <lasermac> Eric^^: I stop for now. Thanks for the help so far.
[11:04] <EriC^^> ok
[11:04] <EriC^^> no problem
[11:52] <marcin__> hello , where can i downloading vpn via terminal?
[11:54] <nick__> Hello, on my Lenovo l13 yoga g3 on Gnome the Keyboard does not get disabled if I fold the device over in tablet or tent mode however it is sold with Ubuntu. Has anyone an idea ho to fix this?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> nick__: you could try searching a tweak via dconf-editor
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> marcin__: if you like there's a free vpn snap called riseup-vpn you can test/install
[12:19] <infinity0> what's the correct way to compile an in-tree kernel that was not present in the official config? i thought i did it right but i keep getting "insmod: module format error"
[12:19] <infinity0> specifically i'm using the linux-hwe ubuntu kernel, via linux mint
[12:20] <infinity0> and trying to compile CONFIG_IR_GPIO_CIR=m and CONFIG_IR_GPIO_TX=m, the compile works but i can't load it due to "format error"
[12:20] <infinity0> i'm using the same soucre version as my kernel, 6.5.0-25, but modinfo says 6.5.13 after the compile
[12:21] <jeremy31> infinity0: What part of modinfo says that?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:33] <infinity0> jeremy31: the vermagic. i've hacked around it now but now there's a different problem, this_module is failing to match
[14:34] <infinity0> i've tried to set CONFG_* values exactly as in the built kernel, values taken from /lib/modules/*/build, but this_module is still different
[14:34] <jeremy31> infinity0: Might need a make clean
[14:34] <infinity0> 0x500 for the built kernel, vs 0x4c0 for my compiled version
[14:34] <infinity0> i tried make clean loads of times
[14:35] <jeremy31> infinity0: For some reason it is pulling .config from the wrong headers
[14:38] <jeremy31> infinity0: or did you copy the .config from 6.5.13?
[14:47] <infinity0> jeremy31: i figured it out, the config is fine, but i had to decompress my kernel into ./vmlinux in the source tree so the build script runs BTF on it
[14:47] <infinity0> apparently this is a new thing and if it fails to run then it affects this_module size
[14:48] <infinity0> if you don't do that it will warn you BTF didn't run, but build the objects successfully, just with an incompatible module_size
[14:48] <infinity0> this_module size rather
[14:49] <infinity0> insmod now works, yay
[19:40] <u0_a219> .
[19:49] <u0_a219> heello
[22:23] <enyc> Hrrm;  Am I correct in saying the  Ubuntu 22.04 lts  installer  at least when asked to use a   'whole hard disk' / blank drive,  not 'custom partioning'  Always uses GPT and mkaes system dual  BIOS+UEFI bootable *regardless* of  installer booted in Bios or UEFI mode in first-place ... ??
[22:26] <Bashing-om> enyc: Install mode is dependent on what mode the installer is booted in.
[22:27] <jeremy31> Bashing-om: I think the erase disk and install Ubuntu may use GPT by default
[22:27] <oerheks> +1 if there is UEFI availabel
[22:28] <enyc> oerheks: friend has annoying HP machine where nightmare to update bios (need a win8 temporary install ;/ to do that)  where uefi-booting or at least disabling-secure-boot  seems to be buggy
[22:28] <Bashing-om> jeremy31: oerheks: Good to keep in mind :P
[22:28] <jeremy31> oerheks: It might use GPT on machines without UEFI support
[22:30] <JanC> shouldn't really matter, right?
[22:30] <jeremy31> JanC: Some pre UEFI machines won't recognize any OS installed on GPT
[22:30] <bprompt> enyc: is the HD formatted as GPT or MBR-DOS?  if the HD is GPT, I can see the installer going to UEFI automatically
[22:30] <JanC> BIOS can boot from GPT partitioned disks if done correctly
[22:31] <JanC> as in: have a fake MBR
[22:31] <oerheks> enyc, linux gives fwupdtes
[22:31] <oerheks> yay
[22:31] <enyc> oerheks: yes fwupd in newer systems
[22:31] <jeremy31> JanC: Not even the bios-grub partition will work on some
[22:31] <enyc> bprompt: neither, if just blank  e.g. new ssd plugged in
[22:32] <JanC> well, then they never were BIOS boot compatible to begin with...
[22:32] <enyc> jeremy31: there are some machines where bios insists upon an apparently ''bootable partition marked active'' in the MBR  which conflicts with  GPT container expectations
[22:32] <bprompt> enyc: well, hmm, the HD must have a partition table format, it will be either GPT or MBR-DOS, even if no partition is in it
[22:33] <bprompt> enyc: but for a new SSD, I'd expect it to be GPT by default though
[22:33] <enyc> bprompt: no, it can literally have 00 00 00 ... in all sectors; no  ''partition table format'' on there at all.
[22:33] <bprompt> enyc: I know
[22:34] <bprompt> enyc: doesn't mean that was the case though
[22:35] <enyc> oerheks: strongly get impression fwupd works notionlaly for much newer bits and pieces
[22:35] <bprompt> enyc: either way, hmmm I'd say stick to install one mode explicitly, format the HD first, then run the installer, otherwise the automatic mechanism will do that
[22:36] <jeremy31> enyc: Might be best to move this to #ubuntu-discuss
[22:36] <enyc> Hrrm; I was hoping for a clear answer to my suport question but it seems not really known here.
[22:37] <JanC> probably best to just try it
[22:37] <oerheks> automatic, full disks, is the preferred way
[22:37] <JanC> maybe in a VM or so
[22:37] <oerheks> have fun!
[23:44] <ph88^> how can i install llvm-11 on ubuntu 23.10 ?
[23:45] <oerheks> only available for LTS, 22.04
[23:45] <oerheks> and focal fossa
[23:46] <tarzeau> the reverse of FAQ simple sid backport :)
[23:46] <oerheks> us a vm to work with that old package?
[23:47] <ph88^> like docker ?
[23:47] <oerheks> depends on your project? KVM preferably


[00:18] <bennypr0fane> hello, is it normal that my sudo password does give me permission to su?
[03:04] <qwebirc5192> Hi.  Just installed mythbuntu and wondered how to get the unity interface?


[05:29] <ari-tczew> hello
[05:30] <ari-tczew> I've proposed a merge to lp:~ubuntu-desktop/brasero/ubuntu
[05:30] <ari-tczew> would be nice to get it reviewed
[06:32] <Laney> ari-tczew: can you get it into the sponsorship queue?
[06:32] <Laney> oh there it is
[06:32] <Laney> wait
[06:33] <ari-tczew> Laney: it's already there. I mean sponsorship for Vcs-Bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/brasero/ubuntu
[06:33] <Laney> ari-tczew: you can file a bug and link the branch to it, then it'll get in the queue
[06:33] <Laney> we don't use the lp;ubuntu/ branches for those
[06:34] <ari-tczew> Laney: do you mean Vcs-Bzr aren't used anymore?
[06:35] <Laney> I mean https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/ubuntu/utopic/brasero/merge/+merge/221300 is proposed against a branch that isn't used for that package
[06:36] <ari-tczew> Laney: than for which package is used?
[06:36] <Laney> if there's no other ubuntu Vcs-Bzr I gues
[06:37] <Laney> this one is fine https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/brasero/ubuntu/+merge/221299 but isn't picked up by the queue
[06:39] <seb128> Laney, what queue?
[06:40] <Laney> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/
[06:41] <ari-tczew> Laney: shouldn't both branches to get merged?
[06:41] <Laney> there's no need to do the first one, it gets imported automatically by uploads to the archive
[06:45] <ari-tczew> ok, anyway, need to go to work. if it's ok please approve, if not, reject. thanks and bye.
[07:53] <seb128> don't update if you run trusty
[07:53] <seb128> larsu, didrocks: ^ can you share
[07:53] <seb128> ups
[07:53] <seb128> utopic
[07:53] <seb128> not trusty
[07:53] <didrocks> seb128: doing
[07:54] <didrocks> and done
[07:55] <didrocks> (thanks for warning)
[07:56] <seb128> didrocks, yw, thanks
[08:33] <larsu> seb128: shared in this room :)
[08:34] <seb128> larsu, danke, pitti uploaded a sysvinit fix, so things should be back to normal in a bit
[08:34] <larsu> okay cool
[08:34] <larsu> thanks!
[08:37] <pitti> I just sent an u-devel@ mail about it
[08:45] <ogra_> pitti, but pressing e on my phone does never give me the editor :P
[08:45] <ogra_> (thanks for the mail, we'll hold back image builds til this is fixed)
[08:46] <pitti> ogra_: ETA ~ 1 hour
[08:47]  * pitti feeds the publisher hamsters
[08:47] <ogra_> heh, thanks
[09:19] <seb128> attente, btw, created https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/trusty
[09:48] <RAOF> desrt: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1410-unhate-eventloops is something that I'm now tasked with doing soon. Enjoy.
[10:23] <Saviq> desrt, it's happened to me the second time now that the dconf db got corrupted, dconf-service created a 0-length file and spun on it
[10:23] <Saviq> desrt, are you interested in anything I could get you to see the issue?
[11:49] <Saviq_> desrt, FYI: bug #1324505
[11:50] <xnox> Saviq: slow clap =))))
[11:51] <Saviq> ;)
[14:30] <desrt> Saviq: when i said to file a bug against glib, this is not what i had in mind :)
[14:45] <chiluk> Hey guys what is the time frame for the lts-trusty X hwe stack?  and which ppa contains the packages that will eventually be backported?\
[14:45] <RAOF> desrt: Any preference on mir_connection_dispatch_event() vs mir_connection_dispatch_events() (ie: do you want to dispatch exactly one event at a time, or all events ready?)
[14:46] <desrt> make it non-blocking, returning TRUE if it actually did work
[14:46] <desrt> then i can while(dispatch());
[14:46] <desrt> ie: only one, please :)
[14:46] <RAOF> desrt: Sure.
[15:00] <seb128> Laney, what was the line to add in the config?
[15:01] <Laney> user-session=unity8-mir
[15:02] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:02] <seb128> Laney, working this time, go figure
[15:03] <Laney> oh that's reassuring
[15:03] <Laney> i'm just updating the mp so hopefully it can go in
[15:03] <Laney> for the next build
[16:17] <seb128> mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1324602
[16:17] <mterry> seb128, thanks!
[16:17] <seb128> yw!
[16:17] <seb128> I tried to put some details in the description but it could use editing for sure
[16:54] <marrusl> Just curious if anyone has a thought on an issue I'm looking at.  It seems like AccountServices has a hardcoded limit not to display UIDs over 60000 in the lightdm login screen.  Changing the value in /etc/login.defs doesn't change it.
[16:54] <marrusl> I didn't find a bug for it, but I may have missed something.


[15:10] <OvenWerks> Bug 1549732 say there is an upstream fix, so we should probably not create a -Studio specific fix for this.
[18:29] <OvenWerks> zequence: just for reference sake, the PA-jack bridge will make bad noise like that with some PA applications (skype is a known bad one) at low latency. I have found that skype is not stable below 512/2. The pa-jack bridge could benefit from using it's own buffer to show desktop apps a latency they understand.
[18:40] <zequence> OvenWerks: Ok. Didn't know that.
[18:41] <OvenWerks> zequence: most stuff is ok, firefox, audacious etc
[18:42]  * OvenWerks has a wife that uses skype pretty much daily