[03:18] <asac> Ubulette: i will upload nss/nspr in the morning
[03:18] <asac> sorry for the delay
[03:18] <asac> have to sleep now
[13:49] <Ubulette> asac, plz don't forget nss/nspr
[13:49] <Ubulette> and mozclient
[13:59] <asac> yeah
[14:00] <asac> bad thing is that i saw a few random crashes in evolution while testing
[14:01] <asac> unfortunately couldn't reproduce with debugger so i am currently unsure if its a nss related crash
[14:08] <asac_> Ubulette: why do we use startup-notification?
[16:01] <armin76> asac: are you running b2?
[16:28] <Ubulette> i am
[17:51] <asac> ok nspr is up
[17:52] <asac> hmm wonder if nss can be build against old nspr and still work out well :/
[17:53] <Ubulette> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/?rev/5603fa93e575
[17:54] <Ubulette> next client will be python only with a mix of cvs and hg
[17:54] <asac>  \o/ yeah ... python \o/
[17:54] <asac> no makefiles anymore?
[17:55] <asac> they have 1.9 tags ... but i cannot navigate branches
[17:55] <asac> the main one is probably mozilla 2
[17:56] <Ubulette> there's still client.mk
[17:56] <Ubulette> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/?file/5603fa93e575/client.mk
[17:57] <asac> Ubulette: any idea if we need to use versioned depend on nspr for new nss?
[17:57] <asac> or just upload as is?
[17:57] <asac> (i hope the latter)
[17:57] <Ubulette> >= 4.7 should be enough
[17:58] <asac> we don't have any versioned depend
[17:58] <asac> lets just upload
[17:59] <asac> hmm orig size has been boosted from 3.5 Mb to 5 mb
[17:59] <asac> strange
[17:59] <Ubulette> ?
[17:59] <Ubulette> new mozclient ?
[18:00] <Ubulette> how did you create that tarball ?
[18:00] <asac> i think so
[18:00] <asac> but can't remember
[18:00] <asac> i used mozclient for both
[18:01] <asac> now that you say it ... it might be different to what you are providing somewhere
[18:01] <asac> but well
[18:01] <Ubulette> make nspr-orig TAG or make -f nspr.mk get-new-orig TAG ?
[18:01] <asac> hmm oh right you didn't provide b2 tarballs i guess
[18:01] <Ubulette> i did for xul and ff3
[18:01] <asac> nspr-orig TAG=tag=version
[18:02] <asac> i think its not the latest mozclient i used then
[18:02] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspr/4.7.0~1.9b2+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[18:02] <Ubulette> ok, old client then. it should work unless you changed it
[18:02] <asac> it appears to work :) no idea if there is garbage in it
[18:02] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nss/3.12.0~1.9b2+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[18:03] <Ubulette> btw, new mozclient will not use nobinonly for those two as they are bin-clean
[18:03] <asac> right ... makes sense
[18:03] <asac> if we want to say in sync we should try to append ~ubuntu
[18:04] <asac> instead of +nobinonly ... so our tarball is lower versioned than the one debian will eventually release
[18:04] <asac> the tarball i used now has a version too high ... so we have to keep an eye open and manually integrate changes mike does for b2
[18:09] <Ubulette> once it's in, i try the new changes i've made in xul
[18:09] <asac> Ubulette: ok i closed changelog and am uploading 1.9
[18:10] <Ubulette> no
[18:10] <Ubulette> wait
[18:10] <Ubulette> i was not done
[18:10] <Ubulette> did you pull ?
[18:10] <asac> yes
[18:10] <asac> its all up
[18:11] <asac> system-nspr/nss is properly used
[18:11] <asac> all looks fine
[18:11] <asac> libnspr4-0d (>= <IP_ADDRESS>), libnss3-1d (>= 3.12.0~1.9b1),
[18:11] <Ubulette> <IP_ADDRESS> is bad
[18:11] <Ubulette> it's 4.7.*
[18:11] <Ubulette> bad shlibs
[18:12] <asac> indeed
[18:12] <asac> but looks like i built against the old nspr
[18:12] <asac> so no need to worry i guess
[18:13] <Ubulette> which rev do you have for xul ?
[18:14] <asac> on top of your system things
[18:14] <asac> i committed 90 + 91
[18:15] <asac> imo its a great upload ... lets push it now because i have to go soon for tonight
[18:17] <asac> Ubulette: ?
[18:19] <Ubulette> ok
[18:20] <Ubulette> i wanted to clean ff3 a bit but it could go like that.
[18:20] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 408062
[18:20] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 408062 in Build Config "Provide short-hand includetype=unstable .pc files for libxul and libxul-embedding" [Enhancement,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408062
[18:21] <Ubulette> did you address the last comment from benjamin ?
[18:24] <asac> yes
[18:24] <asac> will update the bug
[18:26] <armin76> Ubulette: can you give me an screenshot of your icons, please?
[18:27] <Ubulette> same as b2 rc1: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ff3-b2-rc1.png
[18:28] <Ubulette> now with the new cairo, fonts are better
[18:28] <armin76> but that's a binary from mozilla.org or built yourself?
[18:28] <Ubulette> (except chinese and japanese which both remained unchanged)
[18:29] <Ubulette> myself, ie the same thing that we are pushing to hardy
[18:31] <armin76> gee, but that's with gnome
[18:31] <Ubulette> yes
[18:34] <Ubulette> i guess xul will fail once again on hppa
[18:35] <Ubulette> asac, you didn't push ff3 yet, right ?
[18:38] <Ubulette> armin76, do you support hppa ?
[18:39] <armin76> yup
[18:39] <asac> no not yet
[18:39] <armin76> the app patch just needs to get approved
[18:39] <armin76> err
[18:39] <armin76> s/app/hppa
[18:40] <Ubulette> bug id ?
[18:41] <armin76> mozilla bug 287150
[18:41] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 287150 in XPCOM "parisc-linux support for xpcom" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287150
[18:41] <armin76> d'oh
[18:42] <armin76> sorry, the one that needs approval is the ppc64 one
[18:42] <armin76> the hppa needs the review first
[18:44] <Ubulette> ok
[18:46] <asac> Ubulette: please review latest commit on ffox .dev branch ... system-nspr/nss should not be needed with latest xul 1.9 ... thus the droppage of DEV_PACKAGE_INDICATION business
[18:46] <asac> revision 130 that is
[18:47] <asac> if it works for you with latest xul as well ... close
[18:49] <Ubulette> reading..
[18:50] <Ubulette> btw, what about new mozclient, pushable or not ?
[18:57] <Ubulette> dpkg-shlibdeps is complaining a lot..
[18:59] <Ubulette> asac, seems good. closed & pushed
[19:00] <Ubulette> asac, rev132
[19:02] <asac> thankx
[19:05] <asac> Ubulette: where are the origs?
[19:06] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/
[19:07] <Ubulette> made with the new mozclient :)
[19:07] <asac> precious
[19:09] <Ubulette> bug 178066
[19:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 178066 in firefox-3.0 "New version: Firefox 3.0 Beta 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178066
[19:10] <armin76> quick
[19:21] <Ubulette> asac, if you feel like pushing mozclient, i can start to modify my head branches to use it
[20:04] <Ubulette> hmm, nss failed on ia64
[20:28] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 404634
[20:28] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 404634 in Embedding: GRE Core "http urls don't render in TestGtkEmbed" [Critical,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404634
[20:36] <Ubulette> asac, i'm not sure we still need your patch there. the code changed a bit
[21:07] <Ubulette> asac, i think xul will break
[21:08] <Ubulette> libstartup-notification0-dev missing from builddeps
[21:10] <Ubulette> seems it's still not pushed
[21:10] <Ubulette> good
[21:15] <Ubulette> checking for nss-config... /usr/bin/nss-config
[21:15] <Ubulette> checking for NSS - version >= 3.12.0... test: 1: Illegal number: 3~cvs20071121t0000+nobinonly
[21:15] <Ubulette> test: 1: Illegal number: 3~cvs20071121t0000+nobinonly
[21:15] <Ubulette> test: 1: Illegal number: 3~cvs20071121t0000+nobinonly
[21:15] <Ubulette> yes
[21:17] <Ubulette> oh damn, nss is NEW
[21:38] <armin76> Ubulette: btw, i can reproduce bug 175904 :)
[21:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 175904 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox-3.0 window moves to current workspace" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175904
[21:41] <Ubulette> how ? I can't
[21:42] <Ubulette> gnome, metacity
[21:45] <armin76> i used default stuff, i'm not a gnome user
[21:45] <armin76> but i got a report
[21:46] <armin76> so i just installed it, opened the browser in workspace 2, i switched to workspace 1, opened xchat, tried to open a link, and firefox switched workspaces
[21:47] <armin76> i guess in kde it occurs the same, didn't try
[21:47] <armin76> in fluxbox works fine, though
[21:50] <Ubulette> well, I remember having this problem a while ago
[21:50] <Ubulette> bug 123103
[21:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123103 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox Granparadiso changing workspace" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123103
[21:51] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 388664
[21:52] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 388664 in OS Integration "opening link from another application raises/focuses/moves Firefox window" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388664
[21:52] <Jazzva> Hmm... Everything is fine here regarding the Firefox changing workspaces bug... I'm on Gutsy, though...
[21:52] <Ubulette> works fine for me too now
[21:52] <armin76> using what? :)
[21:53] <Jazzva> firefox-3.0 on gutsy...
[21:53] <Jazzva> (not on hardy)
[21:53] <armin76> what version is that? b2?
[21:53] <Ubulette> I fixed my issue with https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/123103/comments/6
[21:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123103 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox Granparadiso changing workspace" [Low,Invalid]
[21:53] <Jazzva> b1... the one from Ubulette's PPA
[21:54] <Ubulette> I had %u or %U or something like that. %s solved it
[21:55] <armin76> hrm...
[21:55]  * armin76 emerges gnome
[21:56] <armin76> guess you can mark it as a duplicate, then
[21:56] <armin76> i'll try if that fixes it for me
[22:03] <armin76> Ubulette: did you got any report about the remember login dialog being empty with b2?
[22:04] <Ubulette> no
[22:04] <Ubulette> but b2 is not yet in hardy
[22:05] <armin76> may want to check it before you put it
 hey, moz-ff 3.0b2 in the moz overlay, "do you want to save this password" text doesnt appear... just a heads up :) built on ~amd64 here
 basically shows the box, with the buttons, and the green/red logos on the yes/no buttons im assuming, but just no text either above or on the buttons
[22:05] <armin76> that's what i got
[22:09] <Ubulette> screenshot ?
[22:18] <Ubulette> asac, ping ? if you still haven't pushed xul, don't
[23:47] <Ubulette> asac, i've fixed/closed/repushed xul
[23:48] <Ubulette> if it's too late, tell me, i'll split and move the last two changes to ubuntu2
[23:49] <Ubulette> i've fully built it using my own nss as yours is in the NEW queue


[02:43] <hugo_> Hi friends, how can I send audio to my Bluetooth device since it connects me to the device but the audio is heard on the computer and not on my bluetooth device
[02:47] <DarinMiller> hugo use the volume control on the panel to specify the output.
[02:50] <hugo_> ok let me see, tanks <DarinMiller>
[02:51] <DarinMiller> you can control each app individually or specify all sounds to go through desired devices.
[02:53] <hugo_> Excellent worked!
[02:55] <DarinMiller> \o/
[05:02] <noaXess> morning
[05:06] <noaXess> my current problem since last kernel update i think... kast kernel update was on 23.7.19 with linux-headers-4.15.0-55.... situation is dual monitor with vga ext. monitor... if eg. try to logout or open application dashboard, kwin_x11 crashes, details: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VBYG3DN8HN/
[05:17] <diogenes_> noaXess, load the previous kernel from grub.
[05:17] <noaXess> diogenes_: will try that.. but anyway.. why it crashes is the question
[05:20] <diogenes_> first you need to make sure it's kernel fault or something else.
[05:20] <noaXess> diogenes_: sure ;)
[05:48] <noaXess> diogenes_: seams that it's not the kernel.. as kwin_x11 also crashes with earlier kerlen
[05:48] <noaXess> kernel
[05:51] <noaXess> can it be about a update in grafic driver? on 4.7.19 there was a update: libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 (2.4.95-1~18.04.1, 2.4.97-1ubuntu1~18.04.1), libdrm-nouveau2:i386 (2.4.95-1~18.04.1, 2.4.97-1ubuntu1~18.04.1)
[05:54] <diogenes_> pretty much could be, try to change the backend from opengl to xrender.
[05:55] <noaXess> diogenes_: will try.. first i try to use nvidia instead of nouveau.. if that not works, opengl to xrender
[06:07] <noaXess> diogenes_: seams change to xrender solves temporary...
[06:26] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:26] <noaXess> hey lordievader good morning
[06:26] <noaXess> i solved temp. my problem with switching from opengl to xrender... hint from diogenes_
[06:28] <lordievader> You start to think the gpu driver is borked
[06:30] <noaXess> lordievader: i also switched to nvidia, same issue
[06:31] <lordievader> Do you have X config?
[06:31] <noaXess> what now? file a bug on kde? cause it's kwin crash?
[06:31] <noaXess> no X config
[06:32] <lordievader> If you know what the actual problem is...
[06:52] <noaXess> lordievader: switch from opengl to xrender solves the problem.. so something to opengl or any component of it..
[06:53] <noaXess> which will cause kwin_x11 to crash
[06:54] <lordievader> But do you know where the actual issue lies, with kwin, with X, with opengl, with the driver, etc?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 Sup folks
[15:16] <pragomer> is it possible to get two "places" side panel when using the split view in dolphin?
[15:33] <Guest52325> hello all, I'm trying to setup a USB stick with grub because this pc can't start from external disk but it CAN boot with the live-usb stick. So I've installed ubuntu on the external disk, booted with the live system, mounted sys proc dev etc and chrooted into, then run grub-install /dev/sdc (sdc is the usb drive I'm trying to install to)
[15:33] <Guest52325> but I got grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory. Indeed /boot/efi is empty
[15:34] <Guest52325> but I've not put the boot directory in a different partition
[15:36] <diogenes_> Guest52325, grub-install --efi-directory=DIR
[15:36] <Guest52325> diogenes_: yes but I wonder what DIR to put since is empty...
[15:37] <diogenes_> =/boot/efi/
[15:37] <Guest52325> I'm now chatting from live-cd
[15:37] <Guest52325> is empy...
[15:40] <Guest52325> is empty... To recap, the installation has finished on /dev/sdc, I've not created a separate boot partion. I've rebooted with the live-cd and chroot into sdc mount/bind everything, but since /boot/efi is empty grub-install fails to run
[15:43] <Guest52325> grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi /dev/sdc -> grub-install: error: /boot/efi doesn't look like an EFI partition.
[17:01] <Nabudocodonosor> Hi. How are
[17:06] <yourmom> hello
[17:06] <Guest34865> haha it took my username from my mchine


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[01:26] <tsimonq2> WOW, spun up a VPS to use it for a few hours, and this thing installed the whole Kubuntu desktop in 3 minutes
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[03:28] <valorie> !info virt-manager
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[05:45] <valorie> I know that upgrade to the alpha2 isn't part of our testing, but I'm reporting that it is successful anyway
[05:45] <valorie> :-)
[05:51] <acheronuk> valorie: :)
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[10:27] <soee> ahoneybun: http://i.imgur.com/dPDfvVC.jpg for linux gaming
[10:31]  * acheronuk tries not to be jealous
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:13] <acheronuk> https://dot.kde.org/2017/01/26/kde-and-slimbook-release-laptop-kde-fans
[11:20] <acheronuk> clivejo: some progress with gpgme. another upstream patch fixes the hang, but it still FTBFS on failing buildtime tests on arm64 and armhf
[11:20] <acheronuk> maybe that is acceptable? at least short terms, anyway
[11:37] <acheronuk> yofel_: do you have an opinion on that? could we live with no PIM on those architectures if it came to that?
[12:04] <ahoneybun> http://kde.slimbook.es/
[12:14] <BluesKaj> too expensive for the specs
[12:38] <clivejo> !info libkgapi
[12:38] <clivejo> !info libkgapi unstable
[12:38] <clivejo> !info libkgapi-dev unstable
[12:38] <clivejo> !info libkf5gapi-dev unstable
[12:38] <clivejo> !info libkf5gapi-dev
[13:04] <yofel_> ahoneybun: I would argue yes as we don't officially "release" any of those arches currently. Worst case that can be fixed in a PPA later on
[13:04] <yofel_> er, acheronuk ^
[13:06] <acheronuk> yofel: yes, that is how I was feeling on it as well. thx
[13:15] <acheronuk> yofel: I don't suppose you are able to give an opinion on? https://phabricator.kde.org/T5188
[13:15] <acheronuk> also emailed
[13:16] <yofel> I'll try to comment later
[13:17] <acheronuk> yofel: Thanks. I know you are busy
[13:29] <acheronuk> clivejo: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=845575
[13:29] <acheronuk> and https://github.com/hughsie/PackageKit/issues/177
[13:30] <acheronuk> sounds very similar to the issue we have with discover ^^^
[14:24] <clivejo> Im one to talk, but the bad English on this page seriously puts me off - https://slimbook.es/en/faq#battery-duration
[14:26] <yofel> My head hurts after the first sentence o.O
[14:28] <clivejo> Mine too
[14:28] <clivejo> looks like its a direct Google translate :/
[14:29]  * clivejo pokes valorie
[14:29] <clivejo> Offer your skills :P
[14:30] <acheronuk> clivejo: it is, I just tried it as well, and it is word for word
[15:03] <acheronuk> clivejo: LP bug #1659572
 Yo hablo Español. ¿Qué tal?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> discover was always clunky, it deserves more attention
[15:32] <acheronuk> !es | tsimonq2
[15:32] <acheronuk> :p
[15:32]  * acheronuk runs
[15:46] <blaze> acheronuk: are you on zesty now?
[15:47] <blaze> is it safe to migrate?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> blaze, running Zesty alpha 2 here, so far so good..no crashes
[15:52] <blaze> !info gnupg zesty
[15:56] <acheronuk> blaze: I have been on zesty since it opened
[16:08]  * BluesKaj finds ZZ more stable than YY
[16:30] <blaze> !info yakuake zesty
[16:32] <BluesKaj> yakuake works fine on ZZ , I'd be loat without it
[16:32] <BluesKaj> lost even
[16:45] <clivejo> blaze: Ive been on zesty from the archive opened too
[16:45] <clivejo> also running KCI here too :/
[16:46] <clivejo> Plasma 5.9 is looking good!
[17:15] <clem_l> acheronuk, clivejo, just passing by
[17:15] <clem_l> I fixed an issue on the QT frontend of Ubiquity lately
[17:15] <clem_l> you're using a much newer version than us, but looking at Yaketty it seems to be needing it as well
[17:15] <clem_l> https://github.com/linuxmint/ubiquity/commit/47d7f1e042de292d66f482b76117970c1581c375
[17:16] <clivejo> hi clem_l
[17:16] <clem_l> you can reproduce it in a VM, simply give it a small HDD (5GB for instance, anything that's too small really), then launch the installation and you should be unable to click continue after selecting the language
[17:17] <clem_l> I didn't test Yaketty, but I see your show_insufficient_space_page() is empty as well
[17:19] <clem_l> the variables "required" and "free" contain the localized message, it's already localized and used in the GTK frontend
[17:26] <blaze> now I'm on zesty too
[17:26] <blaze> pretty much
[17:39] <clem_l> ah, my mistake
[17:40] <clem_l> checking zesty and it looks fixed
[17:40] <clem_l> using the UI file and all done properly so need for the quick Qt dialog fix
[17:40] <clem_l> false alarm, sorry for the noise :)
[18:07] <wxl> we have one failed testcase— the lvm w/ encryption one. afaik this has been going on a long time. http://launchpad.net/bugs/1659448
[18:18] <wxl> actually i take that back
[18:18] <wxl> previous problems were with debian-installer (in lubuntu)
[20:17] <valorie> clivejo: that's a Spanish company!
[20:17] <clivejo> valorie: I knows
[20:18] <clivejo> but its promoting a KDE laptop
[20:18] <clivejo> and the English on that page is appalling
[20:19] <valorie> right, and I always give my feedback as a native speaker, but they didn't ask me, because I don't work for that compay
[20:19] <valorie> company
[20:20] <valorie> cool that they are finally for sale
[20:20] <valorie> also cool that they are pre-tested
[20:21] <valorie> which I assume means that they gave neon/plasma devels free laptops
[20:22] <clivejo> nice
[20:37] <valorie> that's just my assumption
[20:38] <clivejo> but with them being KDE branded and supported, surely they need to have a good English translation
[20:41] <valorie> I agree
[20:41] <valorie> I'll raise the issue
[20:42] <clivejo> wouldnt take much to fix and would give a more professional feel
[20:43] <valorie> oh good, it's being handled
[20:43] <valorie> Riddell is on it
[20:43] <clivejo> hes Scottish, dont let him translate it :P
[20:45]  * clivejo wonders if there is a contributor discount on the RRP
[20:49] <valorie> heh, well -- if he asks me to read, I'll fix
[20:50] <valorie> he loves making comma splice sentences
[20:51] <clivejo> me too
[20:52] <valorie> then I sneak in and replace with ;
[20:53] <valorie> or occasionally create two sentences where that makes sense
[20:53] <clivejo> its hard to know where to add comma's and full stop when I talk naturally, it all comes out in one big blob when I speak
[20:55] <mamarley> You do a whole lot better than some people. :)
 Someone should give me the straight up Spanish, I don't wanna read it in English. :P
[21:10] <clivejo> hi mamarley
[21:10] <clivejo> hows the testing going?
[21:39] <valorie> !info pidgin xenial
[21:40] <sintre> ok with start up disk creator is anybody gonna fix this
[21:41] <sintre> this or is it some kind of inside joke nobody wants to touch
[21:44] <valorie> sintre: have you filed a bug report?
[21:44] <valorie> last I used it, it worked great
[21:44] <sintre> yes
[21:44] <sintre> and it works after you get to the work around
[21:45] <sintre> has a pop up that asks if installing
[21:46] <sintre> and a dumb open space which does nothing
[21:46] <sintre> you hit cancel tgthere
[21:46] <sintre> then says another pop up "quit installation"
[21:46] <sintre> then you gotta say no once or even twice
[21:46] <sintre> then it works
[21:47] <sintre> but only for it seems ubuntu flagged isos
[21:47] <sintre> freakin anooying
[21:49] <mamarley> clivejo: Zesty with all the staging PPAs is running very well for me, no issues.  Great job!
[21:49] <valorie> if you have not, please file a bug report
[21:54] <clivejo> mamarley: have you seen Plasma 5.9?
[22:04]  * ahoneybun pokes ovidiuflorin
[22:04]  * clivejo pokes ovidiuflorin from the other side
[22:06] <ahoneybun> how goes it clivejo
[22:09] <clivejo> so so
[22:09] <clivejo> you?
[22:09] <ahoneybun> pretty good
 How's your pup clivejo?
[22:09] <clivejo> he's okay
[22:10] <clivejo> having to watch him like a hawk
 Oh? Why's that?
[22:11] <clivejo> He wants to play catch with the sheep
 lol
 How?
[22:14] <clivejo> He barks, they run, he thinks its fun to run after them
[22:14] <valorie> poor sheeps!
[22:14] <valorie> have they already lambed?
[22:14] <clivejo> nope
 That's not catch, that's tag! :O
[22:15] <valorie> not healthy for sheep, as they panic
[22:15] <valorie> bad max
[22:15] <clivejo> yeah
[22:15] <clivejo> bad bad max
[22:15] <clivejo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgNUzVx1PgU
[22:16] <acheronuk> that is how I imagined you chasing after max!
[22:17] <clivejo> yeah almost!
[22:17] <acheronuk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRSbr0EYYU
[22:17] <acheronuk> just the clip ^^^
[22:18] <clivejo> not family or work safe!!
[22:18] <clivejo> bad Rik
[22:18] <mamarley> clivejo: No, I don't have quite the nerve to add the KCI PPA.
[22:18] <acheronuk> oops
[22:19] <acheronuk> I might add it, but I wiuld then not be able to test stuff in the archive on this install
[22:21] <clivejo> acheronuk: Im still having problems with pkgkde-symbolshelper
[22:21] <clivejo> has that not been fixed?
 XDD acheronuk
[22:22] <acheronuk> clivejo: not sure
[22:23] <clivejo> !info pkg-kde-tools
[22:23] <clivejo> !info pkg-kde-tools unstable
[22:26] <acheronuk> !info dpkg
[22:27] <acheronuk> clivejo: issue was actually in a dpkg script as far as I recall
[22:28] <clivejo> !info dpkg unstable
[22:29] <acheronuk> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=840293
[22:29] <clivejo> well its still affecting me in zesty
[22:30] <acheronuk> so fixed in dpkg 1.18.11
[22:30] <clivejo> should I do a requestsync?
[22:31] <clivejo> for both ?
[22:31] <acheronuk> dunno. but I would consult with coredevs on dpkg
[22:33] <acheronuk> I just manually patched the affected file here
[22:34] <valorie> interesting that we are seeing bugs in such core packages
[22:34] <valorie> at least they are quickly fixed
[22:42] <acheronuk> clivejo: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/pkg-kde-tools/log/?h=kubuntu_zesty_archive
[22:44] <acheronuk> clivejo: ^^^ santa had merged pkg-kde-tools from debian git for a 0.15.24ubuntu1 version
[22:44] <clivejo> so I see
[22:44] <clivejo> so we maintain that
[22:48] <acheronuk> I recall he uploaded that version to the frameworks staging ppa, but now looks like it got deleted for some reason I don't recall right now
[22:50] <clivejo> would you have time to do a test and prepare it for upload?
[22:51] <acheronuk> clivejo: ah. it got caught up in clearing that ppa when I was sorting out our "surprise"
[22:52] <clivejo> oh yeah, the "surprise"
[22:55] <acheronuk> clivejo: well, I think santa's original plan was to upload that to staging frameworks ppa, then stage frameworks against it to test
[22:55] <clivejo> did it happen?
[22:56] <acheronuk> no, as it would have at the time been for 5.29
[23:06] <acheronuk> clivejo: ok. have re-uploaded it to staging-frameworks
[23:07] <acheronuk> I would suggest we test with the next staging, and if it looks ok then archive upload?
[23:09] <acheronuk> AFAIK, a dpkg fix is still required for symbolshelper
[23:58] <acheronuk> clivejo: sorry, I was wrong. new pkg-kde-tools also has a workaround for the symbolshelper bug


[00:16] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1053166] 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu1 ftbfs on armel/armhf @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1053166 (by Matthias Klose)
[02:32] <ScottK> Riddell: Approved.
[03:24] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1022479] bzr crashed with SIGSEGV in QGtkStyle::drawComplexControl() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1022479 (by Logan Rosen)
[03:50] <ScottK> debfx: They went ahead and did the Ubuntu medium font thing anyway, despite my protests.  Can you verify it's still an actual problem?
[03:50] <ScottK> sabdfl directed, so I think it
[03:50] <ScottK> is unlikely to get changed.
[03:50] <ScottK> If it's still a problem we can just switch our default fonts back to match upstream, I guess.
[08:45] <soee> skype belongs to ms now ?
[09:00] <jussi> soee: welcome to the past... been that way for a good while aready
[09:01] <soee> i knew it and now they want to kill my desktop :)
[09:01] <jussi> :D
[09:02] <soee> its not funny :/ everytime some notification shows up from skype plasma gets restart :<>
[09:03] <soee> this must be self defense against skype i think :o
[09:13] <debfx> ScottK: it's still a problem
[09:14] <debfx> ScottK: however when you manually change font settings kde generates a fontconfig file that seems to fix it as a side effect
[09:15] <debfx> generating that file in the first place is however a bug in KDE, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105797
[09:20] <Riddell> so a bug is fixing another bug?
[09:31] <debfx> now the Ubuntu font is used in firefox. I'm confused
[11:07] <Riddell> debfx: hmm that is curious
[11:55] <mparillo> ScottK: Sorry your protests had little effect. Does that mean Riddell needs to send the shirts back to have their fonts changed ;-)
[11:56] <Riddell> :)
[11:59] <Riddell> agateau: did you request your flights?
[12:05] <agateau> Riddell: not yet
[12:05] <agateau> Riddell: doing it this afternoon
[12:37] <ScottK> Riddell and debfx : How about we just switch back to the upstream fonts for default?
[12:43] <Riddell> ScottK: seems like an option, just use the system defaults instead of overrideing them to Ubuntu
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:01] <ScottK> Riddell: We switched to the Ubuntu font on a KC vote, so we probably ought to ask again.
[13:35] <ScottK> JontheEchidna, apachelogger , Darkwing , jussi: Since the Ubuntu fonts are now broken with KDE (always bold unless you manually monkey with the configuration) do you have any objection to switching back to the regular upstream KDE fonts and dropping the Ubuntu font override?
[13:36] <JontheEchidna> no objections here
[13:36] <ScottK> Thanks.
[13:37] <ScottK> BTW, I don't think this is actually a KDE bug, since Ubuntu One has the problem too.
[13:41] <Riddell> it's a Qt bug
[13:43] <jussi> so wait, we want to change the ont back temporarily or permanently?
[13:43] <jussi> font*
[13:44] <JontheEchidna> If it gets fixed I'd also not object to switching back
[13:45] <jussi> Yes, thats my stance also, until the bug is fixed, absolutely go ahead, f we find a fix, we switch back.
[13:45] <JontheEchidna> the original ticket has been reopened, and has a fairly good description of the actual issue: bug 744812
[13:45] <JontheEchidna> it's also being tracked for 12.10
[13:46] <JontheEchidna> I'm off to go get breakfast and study for a calculus exam, bbl
[13:46] <jussi> JontheEchidna: good luck
[13:52]  * ScottK notes 4 is a majority.
[13:53] <ScottK> Riddell: So it's just a matter of dropping the overrides in share/config/kdeglobals, right?
[13:55] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah I think so
[13:55] <ScottK> OK.  Let's try that.
[13:56] <ScottK> Done.
[14:22] <Blizzz> will owncloud client 1.0.5 hit Quantzal? in 1.0.4 is a bug that makes it unusable via SSL
[14:22] <mparillo> Not that I am a voter, but I agree on the font direction. I ended up in Ubuntu because it has much better font displays out of the box than any other distribution. Is that because of the Ubuntu Font Family, or some other setting being set by default. For example to make OpenSuSE come close, I had to enable anti-alisaing and twiddle the settings there, and it still was not as nice as Ubuntu / Kubuntu are.
[14:28] <Riddell> Blizzz: hmm, good question
[14:32] <Blizzz> Riddell: i'd say it's quite an important thing, as no one should transfer credentials plain text through the web
[14:53] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion owncloud-client 1.0.5
[14:53] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1053449
[15:03] <afiestas> updating a quantal installation from a few weeks ago
[15:04] <afiestas> failed, blackscreen and tty are not working
[15:04] <shadeslayer> so ... it seems I've now officially passed my B.Tech \o/
[15:06] <yofel> shadeslayer: great news, congratulations :)
[15:06] <shadeslayer> thx :)
[15:07] <mparillo> afiestas: I had a similar symptom (not black screen, but blank screen with the default KDE SC 4.9 wall paper). I resolved by getting a new daily ISO on 2012-09-18. It has not re-surfaced.
[15:17] <tsdgeos> afiestas: tty's work here, not sure wha you mean with blackscreen
[15:19] <afiestas> tsdgeos: it boots, I see nothing
[15:19] <afiestas> that's what I mean
[15:19] <tsdgeos> doh
[15:19] <tsdgeos> suxxors
[15:19] <afiestas> actually the screenis turned off, not ven thebacklight
[15:19] <afiestas> tty's may work, but I dont' see them xd
[15:20] <afiestas> ssh works though
[15:20] <tsdgeos> afiestas: bring it to uds and show it to someoone of the kernel team
[15:20] <afiestas> quite sure it is some update issue
[15:29] <shadeslayer> hm, would KMyMoney make a good candidate for -updates?
[15:29] <genii-around> Should recorditnow be able to record switching workspaces with the cube?
[15:29] <shadeslayer> maybe
[15:36] <debfx> any ideas what this armel build failure is about:
[15:36] <debfx> /build/buildd/qt4-x11-4.8.3+dfsg/src/gui/widgets/qdockwidget.cpp:1184:(.text+0x39ec): dangerous relocation: unsupported relocation
[15:39] <shadeslayer> darn it, I saw this really cool code search engine yesterday and I've completely blanked on it's name
[15:41] <shadeslayer> http://code.woboq.org/ < for anyone else who's interested
[15:42] <shadeslayer> uh
[15:42] <shadeslayer> http://code.woboq.org/kde/qt4/src/gui/widgets/qdockwidget.cpp.html#1184
[15:42] <shadeslayer> is a comment
[15:42] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:30] <Darkwing> ScottK: No objections here.
[17:30] <Darkwing> ScottK: RE font
[17:49] <shadeslayer> SteveRiley: ok, let me phrase it this way, how hard is it for a user to pin a selected package using muon?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> and should we document pinning the package on the PPA page?
[17:55] <yofel> it's easy to force a version with muon, and IIRC think that pins the package too while at it (could be wrong though)
[17:56] <yofel> documenting it would be a good idea though. Users don't normally use muon
[17:59] <JontheEchidna> If the currently-installed version is the one you want to pin, all you have to do is right-click the package in the package view and hit "lock package at current version", and it takes care of the pinning APT-wide
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> Muon also has the capability to specify specific versions (effectively a downgrade), but it does not pin the package at the version.
[18:01] <yofel> ah ok, thanks
[18:22] <shadeslayer> oh hmm
[18:22] <shadeslayer> so you can downgrade, but not pin
[18:22] <shadeslayer> argh
[18:22] <shadeslayer> you can downgrade and *then* pin
[18:28]  * shadeslayer rages at uni for making a site in .net
[18:28] <shadeslayer> it keeps showing the loading button ... and it's been like that for the last 2 hours :P
[18:34] <apachelogger> rationale for not having firefox-kde btw: unnecessary security risky as we do not have releases the same day as youbuntoo
[18:35] <shadeslayer> best to document that on the dev mL
[18:35] <apachelogger> feel free to do so
[18:35] <shadeslayer> and apachelogger should update the package :P
[18:35]  * apachelogger is not in a mail mood
[18:35] <shadeslayer> ok


[08:05] <jave_> hello
[08:06] <jave_> is ploblematic to use non-ascii in commiter name?
[08:10] <jave_> I'm experiencing the issue here:
[08:10] <jave_> https://github.com/felipec/git/issues/38
[12:24] <LarstiQ> jave_: nafaik
[12:25] <LarstiQ> jave_: I'd suspect it is git-remote-bzr where the problem is
[12:27] <jave_> LarstiQ: ok, I delved some more and there seems to be some unicode/ascii conversion issue with git-remote-bzr
[12:34]  * LarstiQ nods
[12:34] <LarstiQ> jave_: that sounds plausible
[22:46] <tuv> is this the official irc channel for bzr?
[22:47] <tuv> i pulled from a different branch, and now everytime i 'bzr update', i get 'bzr: ERROR: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted:...' for some (arbitrary, afaict) file. I rm the file, update again, and I get the same error for another file!
[22:47] <tuv> what could be causing this?
[22:48] <tuv> if I don't rm the file, and update again, I get the same error for the same last file
[22:48] <tuv> it's a huge repository, so if this goes on, it could take a while
[22:52] <tuv> reiserfs
[22:54] <fullermd> errno 1 is (on my system anyway, but that low is probably common) EPERM, which would fit.  But I can't think of any way on its own bzr could have put things in an EPERMish way.
[22:54] <fullermd> The files are writable by $YOU?
[22:56] <tuv> yes. i'm rm'ing them. i can revert them too
[22:56] <fullermd> rm'ing wouldn't prove it, since you don't need write on a file (or any perms, for that matter) to delete it.
[22:56] <fullermd> And revert would be the same, since it doesn't strictly speaking edit the file; it rm's it too.
[22:56] <tuv> i don't own them, but i belong to the files' group, and they have write access for group
[22:57] <fullermd> But doing an update would, so that's the salient difference...
[22:57] <tuv> ok.. trying to edit a file
[22:57] <fullermd> (rm'ing a file requires you have write perms to the directory the file is in; the files perms are irrelevant.  Hence why /tmp requires the sticky bit)
[22:58] <tuv> i can edit them
[22:59] <tuv> it seems all the problematic files have their permissions changed (-x)
[22:59] <fullermd> Mmm.  Well, bzr should be able to edit them on your behalf, then...
[22:59] <tuv> it's having difficulty chmod'ing them, it seems
[22:59] <fullermd> That could be.  Can't chmod a file you don't own.
[23:00] <tuv> ah
[23:02] <tuv> right. that seems to be it
[23:03] <tuv> i'm trying to manage the repository as a different user than the one using it
[23:03] <tuv> apparently it's not working
[23:04] <fullermd> Yeah.  Always tricky.
[23:04] <tuv> chown.. update completes without errors :)
[23:04] <fullermd> With BSD fs semantics (or SysV and use of g+s), you can usually manage to pull it off, but dark corners like that require manual work...
[23:11] <tuv> how do i make sure i have a certain revision id checked out in my working tree?
[23:12] <tuv> revno was giving the revision no. although the update to that rev was not complete
[23:12] <fullermd> revno tells you the revno of the head of the branch; revno --tree tells you what the working tree considers itself at.
[23:13] <tuv> and do i have to use another command to resolve the revno to revision id?
[23:15] <fullermd> There's a revision-info command that shows both (and it has a --tree as well)
[23:16] <tuv> nice. does it detect a dirty tree?
[23:17] <fullermd> Don't think it says anything about that.  version-info can.


[07:40] <doko> hi tmarble
[07:40] <tmarble> doko: hi
[07:40] <doko> so today is release day?
[07:41] <tmarble> good memory.... let me check
[07:43] <tmarble> not evident -- will send e-mail
[07:43] <doko> no haste, I'm away for the evening anyway
[07:43] <doko> see you later
[07:43] <tmarble> have fun!
[10:11] <tmarble> standard bundles are delayed by one day (to tomorrow)
[10:12] <tmarble> DLJ bundles will probably require at least one additional day


[17:27] <LeeC> I just watched Jono Bacon's "Creating Your First Ubuntu App" YouTube and thought I would give it a try. But I'm currently running Linux Mint with Cinnamon. Seems like the wrong platform for PyGTK and Glade type dev.  What flavor of Ubuntu would be best?


[12:17] <gionogio> Hi! I'm having big problems installing UbuntuStudio on my MSI GP62
[12:17] <gionogio> could someone help?
[17:30] <studio-user184> hy
[17:31] <studio-user184> how put in condivision files throught 2 pc whit ubuntu?
[17:35] <OvenWerks> ??


[04:22] <cariboo907> I've changed my user nmae to cariboo, launchpad acoount is https://launchpad.net/~cariboo
[04:23] <cariboo907> That should be user name :)
[04:24] <elky> cariboo907: do you have the nick cariboo on freenode?
[04:25] <dax> cariboo907: /nick cariboo; /msg nickserv group
[04:25] <dax> should be fine after that i think, though i don't make the rules around here :)
[04:27] <cariboo907> I'll give it a try
[04:27] <elky> sigh.
[04:27] <dax> sometimes people are bad at instructions
[04:30] <cariboo907> It didn't seem to work
[04:31] <elky> cariboo907: in the box where you're typing, type: /nick cariboo
[04:31] <dax> that's because you quit instead of doing /nick cariboo and then /msg nickserv group
[04:31] <elky> ok now do: /msg nickserv group
[04:31] <dax> elky: done
[04:31] <cariboo> Thanks you
[04:32] <dax> elky: c seems active, might wanna PM them
[04:32] <dax> and let them PM user
[04:32] <dax> since... yeah
[04:33] <Unit193> He quit.
[04:33] <dax> then c can memoserv *shrug*
[04:33] <Unit193> Or wait a couple minutes, I bet he's coming back online.
[11:16] <hep7> hello
[11:17] <hep7> why i cannot join ubuntu channel?
[11:18] <hep7> ?
[22:07] <jeremy31> I am requesting a cloak https://launchpad.net/~wa113y3s
[22:08] <Unit193> e: Poke.
[22:08] <e> Unit193: sup
[22:08] <Unit193> e: Can you cloak this fine fella with ubuntu/member/jeremy31 ?
[22:09] <e> jeremy31 - Unit193 all done
[22:10] <Unit193> e: Sweet, thanks.
[22:10] <Unit193> jeremy31: Congrats.
[22:10] <jeremy31> Thanks e and Unit193