[11:24] <ljsoftnet> in cairo dock, the application list, is not there when choosing none on "Behaivor of the Taskbar", how do i show it?
[11:24] <livingdaylight> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/zU9EgKK9
[11:25] <bazhang> livingdaylight, try gufw
[11:25] <bazhang> !info gufw
[11:26] <livingdaylight> bazhang, my list suggests I need firewall?
[11:26] <bazhang> livingdaylight, just wanted to know that you had a system where gufw was available, its a newer package
[11:27] <morgan> yankdownunder - thank you for your help with my usb disappearing. don't ask me how i did it, but you definately helped, so cheers
[11:27] <ljsoftnet> in cairo dock, the application list is not there, when choosing none on "Behaivor of the Taskbar", how do i show it?
[11:27] <insanity99> hey guys, my laptop shut down while installing avant and i cant uninstall it, i get this messege http://paste.ubuntu.com/573016/
[11:28] <bazhang> insanity99, boot in recovery mode and choose fix broken packages
[11:28] <insanity99> that the only way?
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> Might be the best way.. :) you want a way that may not work?
[11:30] <insanity99> ok thanks, so i restart then choose recovery mode from grub?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> Poor apt - dosent like it when you kill it in mid install/update/upgrade
[11:30] <bazhang> insanity99, yep
[11:31] <insanity99> ok thanks
[11:32] <ljsoftnet> in cairo dock, the application list is not there, when choosing none on "Behaivor of the Taskbar", how do i show it?
[11:32] <stuart> sorry, what is the etiquette for asking questions?
[11:32] <redbox> Why does network ignore my /etc/hosts? :(
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> stuart:  just ask in a clear concice term. on one line if you can.
[11:32] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, #cairo-dock has a channel if you dont get an answer here
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> redbox:  clarify what you are doing exactly.
[11:33] <ljsoftnet> bazhang ok
[11:33] <[deXter]> Hi all, I'm on a Dell Studio 16 (ATI 3680). My touchpad mouse fails to work after resuming from suspend. Any ideas how to fix it, or how to restart the touchpad driver? Thanks.
[11:34] <spinacz> hi
[11:34] <redbox> Dr_Willis: I crafted a script that pulls in 3 files from different servers and combine them into one /etc/hosts. That does not work. I'm able to access ridiculous ads and malware websites such as digg. :(
[11:34] <ionut> anyone knows a program to Convert SQLLite to MDB
[11:34] <ionut> ?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> redbox:  so you are using some ad-blocking type of complex hosts file  to blacklist sites.
[11:36] <redbox> Dr_Willis: For instance, I myself don't use facebook and I read an article about how it is tracking you even although you're not a member. With cookies. So I do have a list of *.facebook.com to curb it. Facebook.com should take me to <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:36] <redbox> Dr_Willis: Right.  It's a whooping 3.1 MB
[11:38] <[deXter]> Wow, that's a lot of blocked sites..
[11:38] <ionut> anyone knows a program to Convert SQLLite to MDB ?
[11:38] <badbyte> is there a way to start a programm on the console telling ubuntu to use all cores of the system?
[11:38] <redbox> [deXter]: If you live in rural area, every bit counts. When this work, I'll use it on the linux router. Thin out the silliness.
[11:39] <[deXter]> redbox: Well why don't you just use Adblock for firefox
[11:39] <Kartagis> hi. what could cause terminal to start up when ubuntu starts up? it's not among start-up programs
[11:39] <[deXter]> it's far more efficient than a large hosts file which is an ugly hack
[11:39] <amin> I need a remote-desktop software to connect to my dedicated server what should i Use?
[11:39] <ljsoftnet> in cairo dock, the application list is not there, when choosing none on "Behaivor of the Taskbar", how do i show it?
[11:39] <Kartagis> amin, vnc
[11:40] <Kartagis> !vnc | amin
[11:40] <redbox> [deXter]: It's not a hack. Not at all. :\
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> redbox:  no idea. i havent used that old blacklist-ad site via hosts method in years
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> redbox:  as a test, try specific blocks with a smaller file.. and build up.
[11:40] <administrator> hi
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> badbyte:  if the programs are progbramed right. they should automcaiclly use the cores.
[11:41] <[deXter]> redbox: It is, it wasn't designed to block a million websites. It's inefficient when you can instead use a simple filter that'll work for a whole bunch of websites. It'll slow down your browsing even if you get it to work.
[11:41] <[deXter]> redbox: I suggest using OpenDNS instead
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> amin:  connect via command line = SSH. a GUI = freenx, or vnc, or X forwareding over SSH
[11:41] <[deXter]> redbox: along with AdBlock for firefox
[11:41] <redbox> [deXter]: OpenDNS = Ads. Oh wait. Pay for it to get ad-free, right?
[11:41] <amin> kartagis:  which one freenx  freenxrdp  freenx-server?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> redbox:  i never notice any ads... :)
[11:41] <[deXter]> redbox: OpenDNS != ads, I don't know what you're talking about. And it's free. :/
[11:42] <Kartagis> amin, choose the one suitable to you
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> opendns can reroute pagenot found tupe stuff to uits own search page..
[11:42] <amin> what u mean?
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> but thats also fixable
[11:42] <amin> i do not make my own computer servre
[11:42] <[deXter]> yep
[11:42] <redbox> [deXter]: Think big, not small. One router will do the job for all connected nodes, Adblocks will only work on one machine. Adblock does not exist for my phone browser with Wifi. What can I do? ;)
[11:42] <amin> I am the client
[11:42] <Kartagis> amin, what OS does your DS run?
[11:43] <amin> ubuntu 10.04 x86
[11:43] <amin> 32bit
[11:43] <redbox> [deXter]: Yeah.  You gave up your browsing histroy to OpenDNS for lulz. :)
[11:43] <Kartagis> amin, run vino-server on DS, vinagre as client
[11:44] <[deXter]> redbox: well personally I don't use opendns anymore, firefox + adblock works just fine for me.
[11:44] <Kartagis> amin, if you can run X on the DS, you should be able to run vino-preferences
[11:44] <Rexodus> Gaat nou ff
[11:44] <Rexodus> ;]
[11:44] <dunkert`> rexort ;]
[11:44] <Rexodus> dunkert`:]
[11:45] <amin> kartagis:  ds is free know should I install genome kde of KVM
[11:45] <Kartagis> gnome
[11:47] <amin> kartagis: install VINAGRE on my os or on my DS
[11:49] <Kartagis> amin your own os
[11:51] <Morten_> Hi, I use the gnome display preferences to configure my external screen, but now I have a problem. At work I use one kind of external monitor, and at home I use another. When I try to detect monitors at home, the one from work shows up, and I cannot select the correct resolution... Does anyone know what to do?
[11:53] <Metalik> Hi
[11:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Morten_:  you are rebooting after you switch from one to the other? or using hibernate/suspend?
[11:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> was the guy from a few days ago in here talking about emacs?
[11:53] <Warlord711> Hi ! I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10. But the installer doesnt show me all hdd, only one. I have sda,sdb,sdc. sda is empty 750 GB where ubuntu should be installed. But it doesnt  show up at all, only sdb which is my win7. sdc doesnt show up, too
[11:54] <Metalik> Can I install Ubuntu Netbook edition on netbook with 2GB SSD?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Metalik:  should be able to.. but it may be a little tight for any real work.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> but theres always usb flash drives for data :)
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> and any updates/upgrades may fill up your /var/cache real real fast
[11:54] <[deXter]> MetaBot: Not recommended as it'll be really slow. SSDs work well if you have lots of free space
[11:55] <Morten_> Dr_Willis, using suspend
[11:55] <Metalik> I know. I got stupid Asus EEE PC 701 2GB with Windows but I want to install UBUNTU :D
[11:55] <[deXter]> MetaBot: I suggest just buying a 16GB USB flash drive and running your system off it, you can use unetbootin to make the usb disc
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> Morten_:  try not using suspend then. is my first suggestion
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> 16gb flash are getting reasnable.
[11:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i'm running irssi through emacs...this is pretty cool
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  thats scary :)
[11:56] <Morten_> Dr_Willis, ok thanks - hoped for another solution though :)
[11:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: why do you say that?
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  emacs would be a good OS.. it just needs a decent text editor. :)
[11:56] <phoenixsampras> how to resume broken downloads?
[11:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: i mean i'm running irssi from emacs the text editor, not the os
[11:56]  * Dr_Willis thinks Us3r_Unfriendly  missed the joke.
[11:56] <[deXter]> Morten_: Well you could run a lighter OS than ubuntu.. like Slitaz
[11:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lol
[11:57] <Metalik> I have 16GB drive, but can Ubuntu Netbook Edition be installed on 2GB SSD succesfully?
[11:57] <Metalik> I need GUI
[11:57] <Morten_> [deXter], why would a lighter OS help?
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Metalik:  installed - yes.. run - well.. that may get harder.. since theres lots of space needed for stuff after install.
[11:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: well there are thousands of distros out there, who's to say there isn't a emacs distro??
[11:57] <[deXter]> Morten_: Lighter as in smaller sized.. Slitaz is just about 50 MB
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  there proberly IS. :)
[11:57] <[deXter]> Metalik: and yes, Slitaz has a full fledged GUI and package manager, check the website out
[11:58] <redbox> Dr_Willis: It did the trick. Weird. #_#
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> redbox:  what did? i forget...
[11:58] <redbox> Dr_Willis: Rebooting the machine. /etc/hosts.
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> Metalik:  if you want 'small disrto' tiny core linux...
[11:58] <redbox> Puppy.
[11:58] <Metalik> 2 dexter  : I am noob in linux, but can I play minecraft with that Slitaz?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> I cant stand puppy much any more. but i havent tried the latest versions. :)
[11:59] <sacarlson> Metalik: I have an eeepc that has a 4gig disk that is barly big enuf for me
[11:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i'm playing music, i'm in irc and I'm configurating my xorg.conf through one emacs windows.  that's serious multitaskin'.  I think vim might be beat on this one
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> I wonder how big an install of Lubuntu is these days.
[11:59] <redbox> Dr_Willis: openbox + tint2 + chromium. That's it. :)
[11:59] <redbox> That's good enough for minimalism.
[11:59] <redbox> lynx? Meh. Good for scripts but I can't handle it all times.
[12:00] <Metalik> Can I play Minecraft with Slitaz?
[12:00] <coldjack1>  hallo i started my netbook n130 today and thany i get the error busybox v1.15.3 built in shel (ash) Enter help for a list of built- in commands. (initramfs)
[12:00] <coldjack1>  darüber steht mount: mounting/dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory
[12:00] <coldjack1>  mount:mounting /sys/on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory
[12:00] <coldjack1>  mount: mounting /proc on /root/proc failled: no such file or directory
[12:00] <coldjack1>  Target ffilesystem doesn't have request /sbin/init
[12:00] <coldjack1>  no init found. Try passing init =bootarg
[12:00] <FloodBot3> coldjack1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:00] <Warlord711> why the heck does sda not showing up in install routine
[12:00] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Warlord711: sudo fdisk -l && sudo mount -l
[12:01] <patlidjan> r irc.rizon.net
[12:02] <coldjack1> http://pastebin.com/zfAVcbdQ
[12:02] <phoenixsampras> any useful program to resume downloads if they get broken?
[12:02] <eXpLoD> i used to have in my upper panel near the date weather and wind speed...now it's gone and i still have my location selected exactly as in the past but it's only displaying some little blank space,nothing else...what could be the problem?
[12:03] <sayanriju> Hi, how can I know whether I have "an accelerated 3D graphics card driver" ?
[12:03] <LjL> phoenixsampras: several. do you want GUI or CLI?
[12:03] <markedwords> Hi all, what's the best way to have NFS mounts on a server, but not risk it refusing to boot because the mount is down?
[12:04] <phoenixsampras> LjL with GUI plz
[12:05] <sacarlson> sayanriju: glxgears is one method http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgears_is_not_a_Benchmark
[12:05] <oCean> markedwords: using _netdev option in mountoptions (in fstab) will prevent to mount these nfs until network is available.
[12:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> OA
[12:05] <erUSUL> sayanriju: glxinfo | grep -Ei '(render|direct)'
[12:06] <Warlord711> anyone got any idea why sda not shows up as usable drive/partition on install routine ?
[12:06] <markedwords> oCean: thanks, but in the case that the NFS server is down, boot will hang.  I'm trying to prevent that possibility.
[12:06] <sacarlson> Warlord711: install with usb flash?
[12:07] <shiv> what can i use to program a robot
[12:07] <shiv> in ubuntu
[12:07] <evyevy> hello, i'm new to linux, i installed ubuntu 10.10 last week but i can't get the "memcached" to work
[12:07] <erUSUL> shiv: what kind of robot?
[12:07] <oCean> markedwords: you have systemfiles on the NFS share? Otherwise the boot will not hang
[12:07] <sayanriju> erUSUL, Direct rendering: Yes
[12:07] <sayanriju> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945G GEM 20090712 2009Q2 RC3 x86/MMX/SSE2
[12:07] <shiv> a sugarcane weier
[12:08] <evyevy> does anyone have a link to an updated guide?
[12:08] <erUSUL> sayanriju: everything is ok. yu have accelerated 3d with intel drivers and card
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> evyevy: what is memcached?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> !info "memcached
[12:08] <sacarlson> evyevy:  is memchached an application?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> hmm, interesting
[12:08] <sayanriju> erUSUL, thanks! glxinfo was the tool /me required :)
[12:08] <dunkert`> !source
[12:08] <dunkert`> nice
[12:08] <evyevy> it's a cache engine based on a memory
[12:09] <markedwords> oCean: it is mounting to /var/lib/backuppc, which is non-critical, but causing boot to hang if it isn't there
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> evyevy: http://bryanhelmig.com/setting-up-ubuntu-10-04-with-apache-memcached-ufw-mysql-and-django-1-2-on-linode/   has a setup command for memcache
[12:09] <evyevy> the memcached itself works fine, but the php5-memcache module doesn't
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> evyevy: just add the command to /etc/rc.local  and it will run every boot
[12:09] <erUSUL> markedwords: add nofail to mount options? use autofs instead of fstab?
[12:09] <evyevy> i installed the module thow "sudo apt-get install php5-memcache"
[12:10] <sacarlson> evyevy: I found this http://bryanhelmig.com/setting-up-ubuntu-10-04-with-apache-memcached-ufw-mysql-and-django-1-2-on-linode/
[12:10] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: sorry didn't know it wast the same site
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: just pulled up some random stuff, seems ok
[12:11] <evyevy> ok, thanks both of you!
[12:11] <markedwords> erUSUL: what is the nofail option?
[12:11] <erUSUL> markedwords: man mount -->  nofail → Do not report errors for this device if it does not exist.
[12:12] <markedwords> erUSUL: well blow me down, totally missed that
[12:12] <markedwords> erUSUL: thanks!
[12:12] <erUSUL> no problem
[12:12] <LjL> phoenixsampras: whoops i forgot about you :p ok try these packages, "d4x", "fatrat", "multiget", "uget", "gwget". they're all graphical download managers, they have different features but all should be able to make a standard HTTP download
[12:14] <usuario> ola
[12:14] <usuario> ola gordon
[12:14] <usuario> ola gordon
[12:14] <usuario> ola
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> fatrat :)
[12:15] <i_is_broke> !es
[12:17] <phoenixsampras> LjL thanks bro
[12:18] <ardchoille> I didn't know there were so many graphical download managers
[12:18] <phoenixsampras> Is there any zenoos  repository that works?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: I have my fileserver as a fatrat server (fatrat has a gui interface too), So I can tell it to download stuff while I web browser on my lappy :)
[12:20] <wingnut2626> Good day fellows.  Im looking for a telnet client that will support downloads off of bbses.  Any suggestions?
[12:22] <phoenixsampras> anyone has experience with Zenoos
[12:22] <phoenixsampras> ?
[12:22] <sss314> Can I add directories to the Places menu in the top panel?
[12:24] <erUSUL> sss314: add a bookmark in nautilus. don't they appear in places?
[12:24] <wingnut2626> ?
[12:25] <labrance> yo
[12:25] <sss314> erUSUL, How do I add a bookmark?
[12:25] <erUSUL> wingnut2626: "apt-cache search bbs" finds a few bbs specific clients. installl and try them
[12:26] <erUSUL> sss314: crtl + D in a nautilus window. or in the menu bookmarks
[12:26] <wingnut2626> ty so much
[12:26] <erUSUL> no problem
[12:28] <zlatan> hi all...I can't mount an empty CD but only a CD or DVD which contains something
[12:28] <zlatan> and now I can't burn anything...why is that?
[12:28] <erUSUL> zlatan: well an empty cdrom does not have a filesystem you can mount.
[12:29] <zlatan> erUSUL, but I was able to burn and now I am not
[12:29] <erUSUL> zlatan: blank cd's are not mounted you just use the cdrecording program to burn into them
[12:29] <erUSUL> zlatan: that's a different problem.
[12:29] <zlatan> erUSUL, okay,but why I can't now detect them
[12:30] <erUSUL> zlatan: hardware error? tried with different burning programs? brasero? gnomebaker ? all fail?
[12:31] <zlatan> erUSUL, when I start any program it does not detect the empty disc(like it isn't inside)
[12:32] <Warlord711> so strange - ubuntu live system shows /dev/sda in gparted but i cant install onto from installer
[12:32] <erUSUL> zlatan: can you post a « dmesg | tail -n25 » after you put a blank cd in the drive?
[12:32] <zlatan> erUSUL, okay,wait a moment
[12:34] <zlatan> erUSUL, it's quite a big output,any specific part of it
[12:34] <erUSUL> zlatan: pastebin it
[12:34] <erUSUL> !paste
[12:35] <zlatan> erUSUL, to paste whole output??
[12:35] <erUSUL> zlatan: 25 lines is not much
[12:36] <zlatan> [   18.387933]     (2402000 KHz - 2482000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (N/A, 2000 mBm)
[12:36] <zlatan> [   18.387935]     (5735000 KHz - 5835000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (N/A, 3000 mBm)
[12:36] <zlatan> [   18.470505] hda_codec: ALC888: BIOS auto-probing.
[12:36] <zlatan> [   18.904491] EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[12:36] <zlatan> [   19.150726] type=1400 audit(1298809135.115:8): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" name="/usr/share/gdm/guest-session/Xsession" pid=939 comm="apparmor_parser"
[12:36] <FloodBot3> zlatan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <erUSUL> zlatan: « dmesg | tail -n25 »
[12:36] <erUSUL> zlatan: not here... in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <erUSUL> that's why i called the !paste factoid ... sorry
[12:38] <zlatan> erUSUL, here ti is http://paste.ubuntu.com/573030/...and sorry to all for that :)
[12:38] <erUSUL> zlatan: is that after inserting a blankcd in the drive?
[12:39] <zlatan> erUSUL, yes
[12:39] <erUSUL> zlatan: can the drive still read cd/dvd's ?
[12:40] <zlatan> erUSUL, yes it reads all CD/DVD but not the blank one-like it even isn't in there
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> for an external  usb 'hard drive' (not a flash drive) is the read speeds more of a bottle neck then the write speeds?  seems its Much slower on my server going usb hd1 to usb hd2 , then to/from USBhd <-> internal disk
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Or am i just a victom of the 'usb hd speeds are slow in ubuntu' problem that i see in here ever so often.
[12:41] <dgvr> Hi all ...
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: they read faster than write as far as I am aware
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: got the latest BIOS?
[12:41] <dgvr> Just wondering why the siging key (ie.public key) from the Ubuntu Git Maintainers is has absolutely no co-signatures attached to it (ie. it not signed by anyone else)?
[12:42] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: maybe the disk are on the same usb controller ( root hub )?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  for that machine yes.
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  Hmm. so the ports would matter? I never thought of that.   both on same 'controller' would be better or worse?
[12:42] <erUSUL> zlatan: well all i can think of is of hardware error... because nothing in dmesg about the blank disk...
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> I got several 1TB usb hds getting moved to a 3TB hd. So any speed boost would be a help.
[12:42] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: worse?
[12:43] <zlatan> erUSUL, okay, thx anyway for help
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: it all goes through the same hub so a different controller may make it a bit smoother
[12:43] <dgvr> Is it completely untrusted by the whole community?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> well the desktop only has ports in front and  back. so im not sure what controller they are using. :) perhaps its 2 differnt ones. I will move the drives to differnt ports soon
[12:43] <erUSUL> zlatan: when did this started to happen? after an actulization? any other event?
[12:43] <Naeblis> Hi there. My xubuntu 10.10 keeps freezing. It has happened before, but today, its freezing continuously and I have to manually restart computer. Just now, when it froze, the keyboard lights started blinking. can anybody help?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: worth a play :)
[12:44] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: try one in the from and one in the back
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: which lights?
[12:44] <erUSUL> front*
[12:44] <zlatan> erUSUL, before few days ago..it just happened
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: also test your RAM
[12:44] <zlatan> erUSUL, I burned last CD a few days ago
[12:44] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip : caps lock and scroll lock(which normally doesn't start)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> watching the output in 'mc' right now.. geting 2.4 MB/s copy speeds.. from USB -> usb.   noticed on the Other box. doing Internal HD. -> sshfs -> exteranl USB -   im getting 10.86 MB/Sec
[12:44] <erUSUL> Naeblis: keyboard lights started blinking <<< that's a kernel panic
[12:44] <zlatan> erUSUL, is a possibilty that I removed or installed some package
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> so almost a 5x increse in speed reading from an internal HD.
[12:45] <zlatan> erUSUL, that is now causing this
[12:45] <Naeblis> ALso, it showed some messages, which I photographed, Can I post a link here?
[12:45] <erUSUL> Naeblis: check /var/log/messages and /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: use memtest in grub so you know your ram is good, the lights show a kernel panic
[12:45] <erUSUL> zlatan: doubt it
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: sure, 1 line links are fine :)
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Naeblis: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/all-software-installs-hang-scroll-lock-and-caps-lock-lights-flash-554348/   may help
[12:47] <segoon> does anybody know any reader of skype history files?
[12:48] <Naeblis> ActionParsnip: no idea about memtest in grub. also, i should mention the system in about 5 years old(p4 with 512 RAM)
[12:48] <Naeblis> Link --> http://i.imgur.com/SX782.jpg
[12:48] <Warlord711> lol always the same with any linux - doesnt know the hardware. ubuntu doesnt see sda in installer, debian doesnt recognize keyboard, which make a installation very hard ^^
[12:51] <Naeblis> Also, the freezing mostly happened when a youtube vid was playing, maybe that's the cause? Coz so far, this session hasn't frozen, and mozilla's still running..
[12:52] <rinku22222> how do i connect via nokia phone using a usb on ubuntu?
[12:53] <Zeu5> hi
[12:53] <rinku22222> hi
[12:53] <Zeu5> i have issues in installing veetle
[12:53] <Tinoco> xi inglês
[12:53] <Zeu5> everything seems fine but firefox just refused to show me veetle
[12:53] <Tinoco> shauhsua
[12:54] <Zeu5> http://askubuntu.com/questions/27273/install-veetle-keep-seeing-tar-mozilla-plugins-cannot-utime-operation-not
[12:54] <wmp> hi
[12:54] <wmp> how to regenerate grub2?
[12:55] <wmp> I want to generate his config from 0
[12:55] <Raj007> so which IDENT daemon should i install which is lightest on resources?
[12:55] <dgvr> Just wondering why an Ubuntu signing key (ie.public key) would have absolutely no co-signatures attached to it (ie. it not signed by anyone else)?
[12:56] <dgvr> Is it untrusted by the whole community?
[12:56] <rinku22222> how  do i connect to internet via nokia mobile using usb in ubuntu?
[12:58] <Zeu5> i have successfully installed veetle on my 64 bit 10.04 desktop. cannot watch veetle in firefox
[12:59] <Naeblis> erUSUL:I'm seeing the logs but I don't know what to look for :(
[12:59] <erUSUL> Naeblis: well a kernel panic should be pretty obvious if it got recorded
[13:00]  * Dr_Willis wonders what veetle even is..
[13:00] <gilburtgtr> hi, I'm looking for help regarding setting up the wifi on ubuntu 10.10. anyone have a good private channel?
[13:01] <redbox> gilburtgtr: This is a good private channel.
[13:01] <redbox> Ask away.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> gilburtgtr:  clarify the problem.. see who can help
[13:02] <gilburtgtr> ok, basically I have downloaded ubuntu onto a memory stick, and I have tried to get the wireless internet to work, but I'm having trouble installing the drivers
[13:02] <vaasu> hi, i am using lucid lynx, when i try to add 'gnome keyboard indicator' to gnome panel, it is not available in the list of applets. how can i add keyboard indicator to the list?
[13:02] <Naeblis> this session is going okay so far, so I think the problem was more related to my youtube video, which was causing the freezing, and maybe I made it worse by manually restarting(not that I had a choice)
[13:02] <Andy-at-home> whats the name of the irc client thats in ubuntu netbook?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> xchat-gnome perhaps?
[13:04] <redbox> empathy? :\
[13:04]  * Dr_Willis wonders why it matters.
[13:05] <gilburtgtr> @Dr_Willis I'm running ubuntu on desktop my netbook, from the pen drive, and everything works fine bar the wireless internet
[13:05] <mamece2> how can i get sudo in graphical command?
[13:05] <redbox> !gksu | mamece2
[13:06] <redbox> mamece2: Ie -- "gksudo nautilus"
[13:06] <mamece2> tyvm
[13:07] <erUSUL> Naeblis: if it happens with youtube may be a graphic driver bug?
[13:07] <mamece2> i have another q, i was changing folder and i get to this folder with a space, i couldnt get in
[13:08] <mamece2> theres a folder called Adobe and another called Abode AIR
[13:08] <sweb1> i'm using ubuntu 10.10, i cann not connect to another ad - hoc computer with my wireless device
[13:08] <mamece2> when i tried cd Adobe AIR, i got to Adobe
[13:08] <mamece2> i tried Adobe%20AIR, it doesnt work
[13:08] <Naeblis> erUSUL : yeah, that could be it. any way to check it?
[13:08] <redbox> mamece2: Use \ to escape the space.
[13:08] <sweb1> the connect detected on connection list on top of desktop but when i'm click on name nothing happened
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> gilburtgtr:  you have looked in the system -> admin -> addational drivers tool?
[13:09] <Naeblis> because nothing in those logs screamed 'panic' to me
[13:09] <erUSUL> Naeblis: dunno; but maybe you can upgrade to a newer version ? what driver/graphic card do you use?
[13:09] <redbox> mamece2: Adobe\ Air
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> mamece2:  cd 'whatever name'
[13:09] <mamece2> tyvm
[13:09] <Naeblis> erUSUL: lol its an old system, onboard 64 MB.....
[13:09] <gilburtgtr> Dr_Willis: yeah, but it seems to be having problems
[13:09] <erUSUL> Naeblis: onboard intel? ati?
[13:10] <Naeblis> arUSUL: ASRack...whatever that is. the board isn't intel original
[13:11] <pajero> i need a perfect media player for ubuntu 10.10, which program would you recommend to me?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> gilburtgtr:  i dont use the ndiswrapper tools.. and chat in the channel. not priv. messages.
[13:11] <redbox> !best | pajero
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !player
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> pajero: ^
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> gilburtgtr:  best bet - determine exactly what your wireless card and chipset is. see if theres a guide in the forums.
[13:12] <Endafy> hey, how do I set my resolution to 1366x768 in Ubuntu 10.10
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> pajero:  nothing is perfect..
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: what video chip?
[13:12] <redbox> Endafy: System --> Something --> Monitors
[13:12] <Endafy> I can't find xorg.conf
[13:12] <pajero> all in one ?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  xorg.conf is optional.
[13:12] <redbox> Preference^
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  X auto  configures for the most part these days
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: the OS doesn't ship with xorg.conf but if you make one it will be obeyed
[13:12] <gilburtgtr> Dr_Willis: sorry, I'm new to the IRC thing. ok, hows the best way to do that, manufacturer's website?
[13:12] <Endafy> fine and dandy I am on an Acer computer, with Nvidia chipset
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> gilburtgtr:  the ubuntu forums.
[13:13] <redbox> pajero: VLC? Great for videos. Banshee. Great for music.
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> pajero: many are, try a few and see which you like
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> !wireless | gilburtgtr
[13:13] <pajero> ok redbox
[13:13] <Endafy> I dont need to make one I just need to set this very odd resolution
[13:13] <pajero> i try
[13:13] <redbox> pajero: This is me expressing my opinion. Take note of that.
[13:13] <gilburtgtr> i mean to identify the chipset and wireless card though?
[13:14] <gilburtgtr> Dr_Willis: i mean to identify the chipset and wireless card though?
[13:14] <pajero> thanks redbox
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> gilburtgtr:  lspci command and a few other commands. that wireless factoid proberly gives details.  I dont fight with wireless much any more these days
[13:14] <mamece2> any music fans here? is there any app to modify and organize my music luibrary?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: if you install the proprietary video driver you should be able to use nvidia-settings to set the res
[13:14] <Endafy> its not there
[13:15] <Endafy> I wouldnt ask if I didnt look first
[13:15] <gilburtgtr> Dr_Willis: ok, i'll see what I can find. thank you for the help
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: what isn't there??
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> nvidia-settings tool can generate a minimal xor.conf if needed
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: and please target replys
[13:15] <Endafy> 1366x768
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: ok then run: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  are you connected via vga or dvi? or is this a laptop?
[13:15] <Endafy> vga, like it matters
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: set the resolution to something (not auto) and click "save to x config file"
[13:16] <Endafy> wow
[13:16] <Endafy> nevermind sorry I asked
[13:16] <Endafy> thanks for not helping
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and set the res in the screen section, reboot to test
[13:16]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[13:18] <mamece2> i did gksudo now "Run Program " is open and doesnt close, how can i force it to close?
[13:18] <redbox> mamece2: What are you trying to do?
[13:18] <redbox> mamece2: "xkill" then click that non-response window
[13:19] <wmp> how to in grub2 disable fd0? Now my grub search for fd0 over one minute
[13:19] <mamece2> redbox i already did what i have to do with gksudo nautilus, but the Run program box is open and blank, not responding
[13:20] <redbox> mamece2: "xkill" then click that non-response window
[13:20] <mamece2> excellent, tx redbox
[13:20] <Warlord711> anyone got a idea why ubuntu installer only shows me sdb+partitions but not sda and sdc ?
[13:22] <ashnur> Dr_Willis, I think the only problem was that with gnome I uninstalled gdm too and I got no replacement for that.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Warlord711: run:   dmesg | less     and you may see the drives being detected / not detected. Read up until you see about no ipv6 available :)
[13:23] <ashnur> after you said that I should make a testuser, I realized that this dialog appears BEFORE the user login screen, read a bit of documentation and reinstalled gdm. now everything works fine, thank you.
[13:23] <redbox> ActionParsnip: I think he can't do that if he is at that installer. :\
[13:24] <redbox> Does TTY even works during installer mode?
[13:26] <Warlord711> ActionParsnip: No idea what to look for, cant see anything that looks like detection
[13:26] <redbox> wmp: A workaround -- Don't reboot. And if you have to, wait a minute. Also, the command would be something like this... "grub-install /dev/sda --no-floppy" -- I suggest you have a LiveCD standby.
[13:27] <wmp> redbox: i have ubuntu 10.01 from netinstall
[13:27] <redbox> wmp: Did you check /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[13:27] <wmp> emmm, how to check?
[13:28] <`greenlight> why can't I see /boot/grub/grub.cfg? -- im using ubuntu 10.10
[13:28] <nicofs> After editing a video file (.mov) with avidemux and saving it (as xvid, sound mp3), the sound is completely off (plays 3x fast) - and when i try other settings, it's correct for the first 3 minutes and then loops from the beginning instead of continuing... what might be going on?
[13:28] <redbox> wmp: It's a file. Meh. You want to edit files in /etc/default/grub. Also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:28] <chicognu> ./epsxe  ./epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory how to solve that ?
[13:28] <wmp> redbox: ok, i know ;) I add to tohis set debug=all
[13:28] <redbox> wmp: Find "floppy" -- It'll tell you what it should looks like.
[13:28] <wmp> redbox: but, what i will check on this file?
[13:29] <Warlord711> no idea how that stupid installer works but only shows 1 drive out of 3
[13:29] <wmp> redbox: after grub-install .. --no-flopy in all entry i have  search --no-floppy
[13:29] <wmp> so, reboot ;)
[13:30] <redbox> wmp: No.
[13:30] <wmp> no
[13:30] <wmp> ?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> !find libgtk-1.2
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> !find libgtk-1.2.so.0
[13:30] <redbox> wmp: Edit /etc/default/grub -- When you're done editing, run grub-mkconfig (or grub-update). I gave you the link. Please go through everything. Take your time.
[13:31] <Naeddyr> how do i stop ubuntu from using [country-i-am-in] language for stuff like the software center and compiz when my system language is English.
[13:31] <wmp> redbox: ehhh, i'm lazzy, but ok ;)
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> chicognu:  i would say find a version of that program compiled with the proper/newer libs.. or use source and recompile it yoruself.
[13:32] <chicognu> Dr_Willis,  and how to install oldlibs withou conflict with the new one ?
[13:33] <Rav3n> t
[13:33] <Naeddyr> yet another thing that windows does better than linux, when i install ubuntu software center on xp it stays english instead of using [insert language here] even though my system is in english
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Naeddyr: have you logged a bug?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Naeddyr: there are many things windows does better than Ubuntu and vice versa
[13:34] <Naeddyr> ActionParsnip: that was a joke.
[13:34] <Naeddyr> you can't install ubuntu software center on windows.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Naeddyr: its been a long day, this isn't joke chat, this is support
[13:35] <elex> Hi, I got a problem with a fresh davical installation.
[13:35] <mer_ge> when I encrypt my /home and start for the first time, usually a pop-up starts a program that gives me an encryption-key. how can I obtain that key later on again?
[13:35] <elex> It's throwing a blank page and a 500
[13:35] <elex> has anyone an idea were to have a look ?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> chicognu:  i suggest updateing the program. it may have other libs it also needs.. easiest to recompile it for newer libs
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> elex: may help, shows some basic config steps: http://www.davical.org/installation.php
[13:39] <Ampelbein> mer_ge: you are probably looking for 'ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase'
[13:39] <elex> ActionParsnipp
[13:39] <elex> I used The ubuntu manual
[13:40] <tuzlo> Is there a source for LAMP?
[13:40] <redbox> !lamp
[13:40] <dashka> hi I am trying to make ubuntu like Mac OS. and i cant find a Software sources its for install Global menu
[13:41] <mer_ge> Ampelbei that's it thanks
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> dashka:  am trying to make ubuntu like Mac OS. and i cant find a Soft
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> dashka: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/make-ubuntu-look-like-mac-osx-in.html
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> dashka: does it all for you :)
[13:42] <dashka> ok
[13:42] <dashka> tanks
[13:42] <Mayank> Hello, I want to set user restrictions for particular user or group of users, how can i do this with command line? any list of commands?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Mayank: what sort of restrictions?
[13:43] <deckard> I'm looking into cloning my hard drive, and all of the examples online I can find have the destination be a completely formatted hard drive, but I'm wondering if there is a way to have it be an unformatted portion of a hard drive that already has a partition on it
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> deckard: could use rsync too, or dd
[13:44] <wn1zid> where can i find a port list, one that gives me a full port list ??, thanks
[13:44] <Mayank> ActionParsnip: like for instance i do not want childUserA to have access to terminal, but I want ParentUserA to have access to terminal
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> deckard:   depends on how you define a 'clone' :)
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  you could dd the first hd into an image file on a filesystem on a larger backup hd.
[13:45] <deckard> that would be a good start, as a backup
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  you can also clone/backup/dd specific partitions. not the whole hd. (which makes things easier actually)
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> or use a tool like fsarchiver.
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> it all depends on what you want to do with the backups
[13:45] <redbox> deja-dup works great for backup, for me. ;)
[13:45] <deckard> so what I want to do with the backup is restore my Windows system
[13:45] <deckard> to a partition on another drive
[13:46] <deckard> if that's possible
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  with windows. you can 'dd' the partition or disk from one drive to another and it will be an identical copy. (bit for bit) if the 2 drives differ in size. you will need to resize the filesystem afterwards to fill in the rest of the HD.
[13:46] <wmp> redbox: i have problem with restaring system, i must pull reset becouse my ubuntu stop on "restarting system"
[13:47] <Mayank> ActionParsnip: Or like, I do not want childUserA to change or add desktop icons, but I want that there is no such restriction for ParentUserA
[13:47] <ulrichard_> How would I write thefollowing correctly in a debian/rules makefile?
[13:47] <ulrichard_>  if [ -e /etc/dpkg/origins/default] then
[13:47] <ulrichard_>          ifeq ($(shell dpkg-vendor --derives-from Ubuntu && echo yes),yes)
[13:47] <ulrichard_>        dh_gencontrol -- -Vdist:Depends="postgresql-contrib-8.4, postgresql-8.4-postgis"
[13:47] <ulrichard_>          else
[13:47] <FloodBot3> ulrichard_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <ulrichard_>           dh_gencontrol -- -Vdist:Depends="postgresql-contrib-8.3, postgresql-8.3-postgis"
[13:47] <spl0it> In ubuntu 10.10 where do I change my input (mouse) configuration? It seems like my xorg.conf only has video settings in it
[13:48] <Chads> Hi All trying to blacklist a driver and having no success.
[13:48] <Chads> Any help would be appreciated.
[13:49] <deckard> Dr_Willis: but all the examples I've seen use an unformatted drive for the "of" argument of dd
[13:49] <hosomaki> hi all
[13:49] <spl0it> I must say ubutun 10.10 is a big improvement over 8.*
[13:49] <spl0it> er I can't type
[13:49] <deckard> so my question is: is that the only way it will work, or can I use a partition of the destination drive?
[13:49] <iceroot> deckard: dd doesnt care if the hdd/partition is format or not, dd will just overwrote EVERYTHING you define in of=
[13:49] <Chads> My wireless USB is loading the wrong driver and it wont connect to the internet.
[13:50] <deckard> right, so I understand it will do *something*, but will it do what I want? :-)
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> deckard:   you can of=/path/to/a/filename
[13:50] <deckard> will that partition be bootable as Windows after
[13:50] <iceroot> deckard: dd is doing what you tell dd
[13:50] <deckard> lol I know
[13:51] <TanLizxxx> Chads:so,you want to ban it?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> You may want to look into fsarchiver. or some other 'tools' that are more feature-set designed.,
[13:51] <iceroot> deckard: if you also have a correct bootsector, yes
[13:51] <Chads> Yes Tan
[13:51] <deckard> iceroot: could you expand on that?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:51] <Chads> Blacklist it as it were and use the other one.
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> plan on fixing the boot records in any case.. :) at least learn HOW.. in case you need to.
[13:52] <spl0it> My xorg.conf configuration only seems to have video settings...where would I find my mouse configuration so I can fix it?
[13:52] <Chads> But I have typed a few blacklist entries but it always pops up again in lsmod
[13:52] <iceroot> deckard: normally a partition doesnt contain a boot-sector so if you only copy a partition you cant boot it if you dont copy the boot-sector from the old harddrive
[13:53] <deckard> is bootsector == MBR?
[13:53] <ulrichard_> How can I do the following in mykefile syntax:  newting an ifeq condition in an if[] condition. From what I read, the ifeq stuff has to be on separate lines, while the if[] stuff has to be all on the same line. That's somewhat contradictory if I want to nest them. Here is what I try to do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/573048/
[13:53] <iceroot> deckard: the first 512bytes of a hdd
[13:54] <Darael> deckard: Not exactly - there's only one MBR on a drive but there can be more than one boot-sector (you can have a boot sector in each partition)
[13:54] <deckard> ah. okay
[13:54] <Darael> I'm having some problems with Flash in 64-bit Ubuntu.  Have tested both repository-32-bit and native-64-bit flash player.  In any case, pressing the shift key is registered, but releasing it doesn't seem to be, unless there's a text-entry area in the Flash.  Example of places it can happen: http://ur1.ca/3cg3b
[13:54] <deckard> and dd won't copy the bootsector in a partition, if there is one?
[13:54] <Darael> deckard: I can't see any reason it wouldn't.
[13:54] <iceroot> deckard: if you copy the partition and there is a boot-sector, then dd will also copy the boot-sector
[13:55] <iceroot> deckard: but not the mbr
[13:55] <deckard> ok. so the way i understand how my dual boot is set up currently is that grub is in the MBR of my hard drive, but then possibly Windows has stuff in the bootsector of its partition, which is what grub points to when it chainloads windows
[13:55] <deckard> is that a correct understanding?
[13:55] <wn1zid> can anyone direct me to a complete port list for ubuntu ??
[13:55] <spl0it> deckard: not sure what your goal is... I recently recovered a corrupt partition table with testdisk...
[13:55] <redbox> The problem with dd is that if you have nothing on your system, it still dd the empty bits. :\
[13:55] <iceroot> wn1zid: /etc/services
[13:55] <yeik> deckard: yes thats correct.
[13:55] <erUSUL> ulrichard_: better ask in ##c or in #workingset
[13:56] <wn1zid> ok, ill give it a whirl, thx
[13:56] <Salix> Hey all, error with a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 - "No init found, try passing init = bootarg". Current recommendations on the forums are to do a filesystem check or to reinstall the GRUB. Does anyone know what's causing the error, or how to make sure it doesn't happen again? The fact it's occurring on a fresh install screams a hardware error, but I can't think of what might cause it, especially as the computer's been runni
[13:56] <wn1zid> i tried that as root, permission denied
[13:56] <iceroot> wn1zid: less /etc/services
[13:56] <wn1zid> ok
[13:57] <iceroot> wn1zid: if you mean with port = network-port
[13:57] <ule> Good morning guys
[13:57] <deckard> cool, so I don't think i need to worry about the MBR then, it will just stay as grub. and the Windows boot stuff will get copied with dd, so all I might have to do is tweak my grub config to point to the new location of windows
[13:57] <wn1zid> all ports the machine has and uses
[13:57] <Ampelbein> ulrichard_: use \ at the end of the lines
[13:58] <iceroot> wn1zid: nmap hostname will show you any used (open) port until port 1024 of that machine
[13:58] <wn1zid> nice, ok, again, thanks
[13:58] <yeik> deckard you will have to chainload that partition, but if the partition is set up properly it should work
[13:58] <deckard> so say my windows partition is sdb1. I can create a new partition in sdc2 that's the same size, and then do dd -if=/dev/sdb1 -of=/dev/sdc2 - right?
[13:58] <iceroot> wn1zid: also netstat -pan is a good way to see what is going on
[13:58] <deckard> yeik: yeah that is what I'm doing now so that's fine
[13:58] <wn1zid> ya, thats the one i'm looking for
[13:59] <yeik> deckard: if you are transferring a windows partition to another partition, make sure you use proper tools that copy data like the bootloader. just copying the files will not work
[13:59] <spl0it> where is my mouse configuration setup in ubuntu 10.10? (fresh install)
[13:59] <wn1zid> ok, i'm out, thanks ice799
[13:59] <wn1zid> iceroot-
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  you dont make a partion in sdc2.. you can dd to a FILE on the sdc2 filesystem...
[14:00] <researcher1> hi
[14:00] <wmp> redbox: http://wklej.org/id/483608 - this is my grub.cfg, and also search for floopy
[14:00] <wmp> floppy*
[14:00] <deckard> Dr_Willis: but if i dd to a file, that won't be usable in place of the old partition will it?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> deckard:   dd if=/dev/sda1  of=/path/to/keep/the/image/file/fileimage.image  bs=2048
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  'in place of' ? what do you mean...
[14:00] <bluenemo> what can i do when i want to watch .mkv movies and they dont play liquid?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  you can mount image files if yopu wanted to.. or dd them back to a hard drive.
[14:00] <deckard> i want to actually *move* my windows installation to a new location, and get rid of the old HD
[14:00] <deckard> not just back it up
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  then you dd from one device to anotehr.. or to a file.. THEN from the file to a 2nd device
[14:01] <yeik> Dr_Willis: it sounds like he is trying to move a partition from one location to another, and chainload it using grub, he can't chainload an image properly in grub.
[14:01] <deckard> yeik: yes thats exactly what I want to do
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  copying from one hard drive to a NEW hard drive you are saying?
[14:01] <deckard> i think this would be easy if the destination was a blank drive
[14:02] <deckard> no, that's the thing
[14:02] <deckard> i have data on one partition of the drive i'm copying to, that i want to keep
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  the destitanon need to be either an emoty drive. OR a empty partition... yes.
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  back it up.. thats the bottom line.. data worth keeping = worth backing up
[14:02] <deckard> yes of course :-)
[14:02] <rizzuh> What file system should I use for a file server? The size will potentially be 24TB (8x3TB disks) in RAID 6.
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  its doable. but you need to be VERY carefull how you use dd.
[14:03] <[segfault]> spl0it: look under System/Preferences/Mouse on the Gnome menus
[14:03] <deckard> right
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 bd=2048   (IF sda1 is less then sdb1 in size, should work) but you will still need to fix the boot record i imagine.
[14:03] <yeik> deckard: you already have the partition created? it might be worth dd'ing the data partition to a file, then dd'ing the partition over.
[14:04] <deckard> i dont have it created yet, i didn't want to bother until i was confident this would even work
[14:04] <spl0it> segfault: that allows me to change sensitivity, etc... I'm looking to change the configuration as the device buttons are loaded properly... (Ubuntu help pointed me to an article for my mouse to adjust xorg.conf however xorg.conf doesn't have anything but video configurations)
[14:04] <deckard> i might just end up getting a new HD since it sounds like that will be much easier :-)
[14:04] <spl0it> segfault: aren't loaded properly (not all of the buttons work, etc)
[14:05] <yeik> deckard: oh ok. new hard drives are very cheap now. There are also lots of clone tools that are simple to use and work well. just most of them work with windows partitions, not linux.
[14:05] <deckard> yeah that's what I'm thinking
[14:05] <Chads> Any help blacklisting a driver?
[14:05] <[segfault]> spl0it: did you check your xorg.conf?
[14:05] <deckard> for now maybe i'll just use dd to back up my 1st hard drive to a file on the 2nd
[14:05] <Guest51411> how to see if I have a 32 or 64 bit processor?
[14:06] <deckard> then if i get a third i can just swap it with the first and use dd to restore the backups
[14:06] <[segfault]> spl0it: oops missed that message.. sry.
[14:06] <yeik> deckard that would probably work.
[14:06]  * yeik is going to run.
[14:06] <yeik> later.
[14:06] <deckard> cool. thanks for your advice everyone
[14:06] <tycable> Hello, I have problem to access Gmail, the ping to mail.google.com is good, and I can only log in my gmail, but cannot delete mails, and Gtalk cannot load both in firefox 3.6.8 and Chrome Stable. Could you help me?
[14:07] <kernelpanic> how to see if I have a 32 or 64 bit processor?
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> tycable:  as a test - try gmail in the chrome/google browser?
[14:07] <spl0it> segfault: every article, help document I can find is suggesting I go to xorg.conf... but nothing is there...confused
[14:07] <Darael> I'm having some problems with Flash in 64-bit Ubuntu.  Have tested both repository-32-bit and native-64-bit flash player.  In any case, pressing the shift key is registered, but releasing it doesn't seem to be, unless there's a text-entry area in the Flash.  Example of places it can happen: http://ur1.ca/3cg3b
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> tycable:  could be gmail is having some issues.
[14:07] <iceroot> tycable: doesnt sound like a ubuntu-related problem
[14:07] <AbhijiT> kernelpanic, grep flags /proc/cpuinfo
[14:07] <AbhijiT> kernelpanic, in output see if there is an 'lm' flag
[14:07] <tycable> Yes, I already used Chrome to test.
[14:07] <[segfault]> spl0it: Well if there isn't anything there, you can always add the appropriate lines, though I am not guru enough to know what to add.  perhaps that is the right direction to go though.
[14:07] <mer_ge> will libreoffice be updated to 3.3.1 for lucid? (in the ppa)
[14:08] <tycable> Dr_Willis, Yes, I already used Chrome to test.
[14:08] <kernelpanic> AbhijiT, i see lm so?
[14:08] <AbhijiT> kernelpanic, is lm present then its 64 bit cpu
[14:08] <spl0it> segfault: I can try that...just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to blow anything up :P
[14:08] <Chads> Ubuntu is loading the wrong driver for my wireless usb.
[14:08] <Darael> mer_ge: You'll have to check with the PPA owner.  There should be a contact link on the PPA's page.
[14:08] <Chads> I want to tell it to use the right one.
[14:08] <Chads> Help much appreciate
[14:08] <AbhijiT> !wifi | Chads
[14:08] <tycable> iceroot, I use ubuntu, I suppose I was because the l2tpd.
[14:09] <Jeaton> i have a process(xchat) running in the background and I don't know how to access it, how do I recover it?
[14:09] <Chads> I've tried all of that from Ubuntu.
[14:09] <Chads> Yes AbhijiT
[14:09] <iceroot> tycable: because of the what?
[14:09] <kernelpanic> AbhijiT, i see lm ... what does it mean?
[14:09] <AbhijiT> Chads, no idea then
[14:09] <[segfault]> spl0it: you can back it up first, then make changes and see if you get the desired result.
[14:09] <AbhijiT> kernelpanic, i told you already
[14:09] <oCean> kernelpanic: uname -m
[14:09] <iceroot> Jeaton: fg
[14:09] <AbhijiT> kernelpanic, if lm present then its 64 bit cpu
[14:09] <Chads> I have the correct driver just want to show it where it is and stop using the other one.
[14:09] <sy_> oCean, uname -a  ?
[14:09] <AbhijiT> oCean, he is asking about cpu not os
[14:09] <iceroot> kernelpanic: large memory
[14:09] <kernelpanic> AbhijiT, thanks, didn't see that ;)
[14:10] <oCean> sy_: that would print all info, -m just the machine hw
[14:10] <AbhijiT> iceroot, no i think its long mode = lm
[14:10] <oCean> AbhijiT: read man uname
[14:10] <iceroot> AbhijiT: hm, sounds also usefull
[14:10] <tycable> iceroot, I don't know, Windows can access Gmail, but ubuntu cannot. And, if I use wifi, Gmail is good.
[14:10] <Jeaton> thank iceroot
[14:10] <sy_> oCean, More info the better? :)
[14:10] <Jeaton> thanks*
[14:10] <oCean> sy_: hardly
[14:10] <spl0it> segfault: I guess that's the route I'll take - here goes nothing
[14:11] <AbhijiT> oCean, -m is machine hardware name
[14:11] <[segfault]> spl0it: :) g/l!
[14:11] <AbhijiT> oCean, that is defined by the installed os
[14:11] <iceroot> tycable: using wifi on ubuntu is working, wired not? with gmail
[14:11] <oCean> AbhijiT: what, no
[14:11] <tycable> iceroot,  yes, absolutely
[14:12] <iceroot> tycable: both unfiltere?
[14:12] <iWaffles> Is it still possible to upgrade from 8.10? I'm doing apt-get update but a lot of files are missing
[14:12] <AbhijiT> !8.10
[14:12] <tycable> iceroot, sorry, what's the meaning of `unfiltere'?
[14:12] <spl0it> hmm one issue - how do I see what the current identifier is for the mouse?
[14:12] <AbhijiT> !upgrade | iWaffles
[14:12] <iceroot> AbhijiT: -m is showing kernel-architecture, not cpu-architecture
[14:13] <AbhijiT> iceroot, tell theat to oCean
[14:13] <AbhijiT> that is what i am tryiing to say him
[14:13] <iceroot> oCean: see above
[14:13] <AbhijiT> pksadiq, pm
[14:13] <iWaffles> A lot of files are missing when I do a sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[14:13] <MTecknology> iWaffles: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade will only get you to the most updated version of that release; you want to do "do-release-upgrade"
[14:14] <iceroot> tycable: any proxy, firewall on wired which is not enabled on wifi?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> iWaffles: try: sudo apt-get -f install     first
[14:14] <oCean> AbhijiT: iceroot I stand corrected.
[14:14] <iceroot> !eol | iWaffles
[14:15] <AbhijiT> oCean, plesae be seated!
[14:15] <AbhijiT> :P :D
[14:15] <iceroot> oCean: uname -m is printing kernel-architecutre not what the cpu can do
[14:15] <sy_> AbhijiT, I personally enjoy lshw :)
[14:15] <spl0it> In xorg how do I see what my mouse is identified as? any suggestions?
[14:15] <AbhijiT> sy_, enjoy then!
[14:15] <iceroot> oCean: i have a 64bit cpu here running a 32bit ubuntu, uname -m is showing i686, cat /proc/cpuinfo is showing lm
[14:15] <tycable> iceroot, no proxy, I think there is no firewall on my ubuntu either, because the iptables -L shows nothing.
[14:16] <[segfault]> spl0it: This might help you a bit.. something I just came across - http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.2/doc/mouse5.html
[14:16] <oCean> iceroot: I got that by now :)
[14:17] <Fidde> Hi Ubuntu Guys :)
[14:17] <AbhijiT> hi
[14:17] <Fidde> what are you guys doing ?
[14:17] <oCean> Fidde: this is ubuntu technical support chan. For chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:17] <Fidde> okey
[14:19] <eXpLoD> where can i edit nautilus scripts?
[14:19] <cak054> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> eXpLoD: ubuntutweak has a few nice scripts you can add easily
[14:19] <AbhijiT> cak054, /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> eXpLoD:  theres a scripts directory.  its documented in a few places. and i recall some extra python nautilus extensions that even give you a front end to the thing and some nice scripts
[14:20] <tycable> iceroot, do you know something about this situation?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> eXpLoD:  i think at one time it was .nautilus/scripts but it may be mooved now
[14:21] <spl0it> segfault: there's both a /dev/input/mice and /dev/input/mouse0 - just going to try both of those first :o
[14:21] <spl0it> segfault: thx
[14:21] <tycable> Dr_Willis, no, I can access Gmail using wifi.
[14:21] <pw-toxic_> hi, im trying to mount a resynced raid5, but i get the following message: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error. In some cases usefu info is found in syslog - try dmesg  | tail or so"
[14:22] <eXpLoD> Ok I am in ubuntu-tweak but if I want to create other scripts what do I need to do?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> eXpLoD:  add files to the proper dirs.
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> http://saravananthirumuruganathan.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/extending-nautilus-context-menus-using-nautilus-actions-scripts-and-python-extensions/
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> eXpLoD: put them ni the nautilus scripts folder in your home folder and they will be used
[14:24] <iceroot> tycable: i still dont think its a ubuntu-problem
[14:24] <eXpLoD> hmm,i have found it....it's in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[14:24] <tycable> iceroot, so what the problem may lie in, please?
[14:24] <iceroot> tycable: gmail or your connection
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> eXpLoD: thats the one, remember to mark the script as executable
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[14:26] <eXpLoD> Yea i'd like to have the md5 checksum script show the md5 sums in a dialog box or something..not a text file..
[14:26] <tycable> iceroot, maybe, but my ISP also known as my college don't confirm this is their problem, I really don't know what to do, I have been finding solutions to this for several days.
[14:27] <tycable> iceroot, thanks!
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> eXpLoD: the nautilus scripts are good for that
[14:28] <pw-toxic_> hi, im missing a partition table on my raid5. can someone please help me repair this?
[14:28] <jeaton> ok, when i minimize xchat to tray, i no longer have access to it, even though its still running in the background
[14:28] <jeaton> when I did "fg" it, it tells me no such job
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> jeaton: right click panel -> add item   then add "windows list"
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> jeaton: you can use alt+tab to switch it in and out without it though :)
[14:31] <jeaton> ActionParsnip, that only shows what's currently active
[14:31] <jeaton> it doesnt recover my xchat that is running in the background right now
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> xchat has some feature to minimize to the system-tray i recall.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !panel
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> jeaton: that will put the panels to default
[14:32] <jeaton> ill try it
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if this is one of the reasons they locked down thepanels so much in the next release..
[14:34] <jeaton> hmm, still didnt work
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> I do recall xchat having some 'minimize to system tray option'
[14:35] <xangua> and also indicator
[14:36] <dsnyders> When I hover my mouse over the time, it says click to view your appointments and tasks.  However, when I click, it does not show any appointments or tasks, nor does it show any fields where I can enter anything.  How do I add timers/reminders?
[14:36] <jeaton> yes, which is what I did, but something happened to the notification tray, which disappeared
[14:36] <red_> linux.org lessons are down :(
[14:36] <red_> any alternatives?
[14:36] <jeaton> i recovered the notification tray, and it is not on the tray anymore
[14:38] <palomitas_> #ubuntu-es
[14:38] <pw-toxic_> please i need help with my raid ;(
[14:38] <[segfault]> dsnyders: single click on the time/date should bring up a mini calendar.  then double clicking on a day should bring up an Evolution appointment screen (if you have Evolution installed)
[14:38] <palomitas_> .
[14:39] <iWaffles> So I did this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Intrepid
[14:39] <dsnyders> [segfault], evolution is a mail program, isn't it?
[14:39] <iWaffles> and lsb_release -a shows me I'm still on 8.10
[14:39] <iWaffles> even after rebooting
[14:40] <[segfault]> dsnyders: it also has an Outlook like component
[14:40] <eXpLoD> how can i do it so when i try to remove something from the panel it warns me?i one time accidentally removed the thrash i barely fixed it
[14:45] <dsnyders> [segfault], Seems like overkill to install an entire mail/calendar/journal/task manager just to set a reminder to transfer the laundry from the washer to the dryer in half an hour.
[14:46] <spetrea-home> if I rotate with imagemagick's convert utility some pic to +30deg and then -30deg back, it looses quality, anyone have any idea about this ?  for example : convert -rotate 30 p.jpg q.jpg; convert -rotate -30 q.jpg q.jpg   <-- and now compare p.jpg(original) with q.jpg(rotated +30deg and -30deg back to original position)
[14:46] <dsnyders> [segfault], besides, I already have an email program: thunderbird.
[14:47] <nash__> man irc
[14:48] <[segfault]> dsnyders: Yeah, I know how you feel.  I prefer TB also, but Evolution is bundled with the distro, so I'm getting used to it.  I'm sure there is a simple timer app you could add to your panel or desktop instead, though.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: us the 'at' command and make it run: notify-send
[14:49] <nash__> wow this is very cool
[14:49] <nash__> help
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> nash__: what is?
[14:49] <nash__> hello friend some budy help me..i am new in this please friends
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> eXpLoD:  learn how to fix it.. :)
[14:49] <formaldehyd> kubuntu 10.10,: "AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0" onboard radeon hd3300, tried to install proprietary amd driver, doesnt work, anyone?
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> eXpLoD:  in the next reelase it really wont be much of an issue. the stuff will be very locked down.
[14:50] <[segfault]> ActionParsnip: <----Guru :)
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> [segfault]: hardly :)  (but thanks)
[14:51] <nash__> nasj
[14:51] <compdoc> help you with what?
[14:51] <nash__> help me please ?????????
[14:51] <dsnyders> Thanks guys!
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> nash__: ask and you may get helped.
[14:52] <server_> heey there guys
[14:52] <server_> i have an issue with ping
[14:52] <server_> i can ping my router but not other computers on my network
[14:53] <server_> has somebody found a solution to this?
[14:53] <erUSUL> spetrea-home: is expected imho. probably it is converted to some bitmap format where the rotation is done then compressed back
[14:53] <nash__> \join #freenode
[14:53] <erUSUL>  /
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> server_: can you ping them by IP?
[14:53] <nash__> telnet
[14:53] <server_> ActionParsnip: I can't ping them at all. even by IP will be enough
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> server_: are they in the same subnet?
[14:54] <server_> ActionParsnip: yes they are
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> server_: can the systems ping the server?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> server_: sorry, the system having an issue
[14:55] <zallos> test
[14:55] <server_> ActionParsnip: no, the other pcs cannot ping the server. but all pcs can ping the router
[14:55] <zallos> hello
[14:55] <nash__> hey friends somebody help me
[14:55] <zallos> can someone help me pls
[14:55] <compdoc> nash__ needs help with irc, me thinks
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> server_: can the bad system ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[14:55] <nash__> \zallos
[14:56] <zallos> hello nash
[14:56] <lexvegas> zallos, go ahead and ask your question
[14:56] <zallos> i have a tar.gz file
[14:56] <zallos> but i am unable to install it
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> zallos: what is the name of the file?
[14:57] <formaldehyd> can anyone help me with my problem?
[14:57] <zallos> sec
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> formaldehyd: ask and see
[14:57] <formaldehyd> funny: http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#Ikeepgettingthemessage.3A.22AddScreen.2BAC8-ScreenInitfailedfordriver0.22
[14:57] <formaldehyd> ActionParsnip yeah did, apparently no one interested :-)
[14:57] <zallos> i downloaded the thunderbird from their website
[14:58] <zallos> i have extracted the file and cd into it
[14:58] <nash__> \connect talk.google.com
[14:58] <zallos> but when i run ./configure
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> zallos: thunderbird is in the repos
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> wasent much of a question formaldehyd  - many people wont go to some URL to read a lot if you cant at least summarize the issue.
[14:58] <zallos> in the directory it tells me no such file
[14:58] <zallos> repos?
[14:58] <zallos> sorry i dun get you
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  look at the files.. is there a configure one? is there a readme.txt or install.txt ?
[14:59] <niyama> is that bash/sh?
[14:59] <nash__> \connect <zallos>
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> zallos: the ubuntu servers where you install apps from
[14:59] <server_> ActionParsnip: yes they can
[14:59] <zallos> i download thunderbird from their website
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  why are youy trying to compile thunderbird when it should be in the software center listings.
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  theres no need to 'download it from their web site;
[14:59] <zallos> cos i have other files
[14:59] <formaldehyd> kubuntu 10.10,: "AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0" on startup, onboard radeon hd3300, tried to install proprietary amd driver, doesnt work, anyone?
[14:59] <zallos> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/971117/dev/ppstream_1.0.0-2%2Bxdg~ppa1_amd64.tar.gz
[14:59] <server_> ActionParsnip: they are both connected to the internet
[15:00] <zallos> for exmaple i wanna install this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/971117/dev/ppstream_1.0.0-2%2Bxdg~ppa1_amd64.tar.gz
[15:00] <zallos> thats a tar.gz file
[15:00] <lexvegas> nash__, check this out http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[15:00] <nash__> \join #zallos
[15:00] <zallos> \join nash_
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  and whats ppstream supposed to do?
[15:00] <server_> ActionParsnip: yes; they can both ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:01] <zallos> its a streaming video software from china
[15:01] <zallos> nash
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !info thunderbird | zallos
[15:01] <zallos> i dun see the channel on zallos
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  the fact  it has a ppa1 in its name. leads me to think that program has a 'ppa' repository you syhould be using..
[15:01] <biggreenfoot> hallo
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | zallos
[15:01] <zallos> Dr Willis whats a ppa repository?
[15:02] <zallos> yes i wanna install that
[15:02] <biggreenfoot> hello
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  you may want to learn some more about ubuntu and how the repositorys and ppa's work befor trying to compile stuff.
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  sudo apt-get install thunderbird   <--------- installs it from the normal repositorues...
[15:02] <zallos> yes i got that now
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  theres proberly other thinderbird extras in the repos also,.
[15:02] <biggreenfoot> i have a question
[15:02] <zallos> from ubuntu software center
[15:02] <zallos> but i wanna install this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/971117/dev/ppstream_1.0.0-2%2Bxdg~ppa1_amd64.tar.gz
[15:03] <lexvegas> biggreenfoot, go ahead and ask
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  you DID check the software center and see if ppstream is in there?
[15:03] <zallos> can u join me in this channel?
[15:03] <zallos> #zallos
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> !manual | zallos
[15:03] <tycable> Hello, how could I find the messages related to in IRC?
[15:03] <zallos> for example that
[15:03] <tycable> I want to copy them.
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> for example 'what' zallos ?
[15:04] <zallos> i extract the files out
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  you need to learn the basics befor you try compiling stuff from source.. that you dont need to be compiling in the first place
[15:04] <nash__> <a href="http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi" target="_blank"> A Guide to Efficiently Using Irssi and Screen
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> !find ppstream
[15:04] <zallos> i tried running wine with it
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> zallos: theres no need for the file, just run software centre and search for thunderbird, it will then install
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> server_: do you have any firewalling in place?
[15:05] <zallos> Guys i have installed thunderbird now
[15:05] <zallos> question is how do i install / compile tar.gz files
[15:05] <server_> ActionParsnip: i don't have firewalling on the pcs (i have both disabled the firewall software and the iptables)
[15:05] <zallos> i use terminal to ./configure but no such file or command
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  you extraxt the source.. install the needed dev packages and compile.. and hope it works.
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  not all source code uses the ./configure method. theres a dozen ways..
[15:06] <zallos> dev packages ?
[15:06] <zallos> where do i get that?
[15:06] <Platypus-Man> I am having trouble with HDMI audio not playing audio, only video. Acer Aspire 5741G with nVidia GT320M. Under sound prefs, -> Hardware;  I have chosen HD Audio controller, Output; have chosen HD Audio controller digital stereo. I have also downloaded nVidia proprietary drivers v. 260.19.06, and checked alsamixer that nothing was muted there,,, any ideas?
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  thats why we hammer on using the package manager....
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> !compile | zallos
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> zallos: run:  sudo apt-get install thunderbird     it will install
[15:07] <zallos> I am not talking about thunderbird anymore
[15:07] <zallos> question is how do i install / compile tar.gz files
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  you need to spend some time learning the basics.. then move up befor you learn how to compile stuff
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  compiling stuff ranges from trivial.. to brain surgery....
[15:07] <nash__> \join #test
[15:07] <zallos> roger
[15:08] <vskram21> have a problem with sony vaio e series, mounting hdd takes too long time n results in slow boot of ubuntu takes more that 2 minites..to get me the login page
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  you compile 'source code' that fact its a tar/gz dosent matter.. and theres dozens of ways to do it.. theres no instant answer.
[15:08] <zallos> ok
[15:08] <zallos> show me the way u do it
[15:08] <Protomega> So, in windows they had a window where you could actually test out Python code without making an actual script.. Is that there in Linux?
[15:08] <server_> ActionParsnip: i get the 'destination host unreachabe' error when i try to ping 'em
[15:08] <zallos> i am using ubuntu 10.10
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  extract, read the readme.txt  follow  the files directoins.. is the core of it all.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  assuming you have all needed developer packages installed.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  you DID read that !compile factoids web site yet? thats where to start
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> server_: try adding a route to the systems to manually define what is going on, see if it works
[15:09] <zallos> ok where do i get the dev packages like configure?
[15:09] <zallos> iw as told to ./configure
[15:09] <zallos> make
[15:09] <zallos> make install
[15:09] <zallos> and bingo
[15:09] <FloodBot3> zallos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  'in the package manager'
[15:10] <Protomega> Anyone?
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  told by who/where? and you do need the build-essential and proberly 300+other packages isntalled to compile most complex software
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> zallos: what are you compiling?
[15:10] <zallos> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/971117/dev/ppstream_1.0.0-2%2Bxdg~ppa1_amd64.tar.gz
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !info ppstream
[15:10] <zallos> ahh
[15:10] <lexvegas> Protomega, open a terminal and type python
[15:10] <zallos> my mistake
[15:11] <Protomega> Python is not defined.
[15:11] <zallos> well i tried to google for methods to install the tar.gz files
[15:11] <lahwran> zallos: can you install .zip?
[15:11] <Protomega> lexvegas: Should I learn linux itself before trying to do anything else?
[15:11] <lahwran> anyone know how to get xtray on ubuntu?
[15:11] <zallos> extract and double click on exe lol
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  the fact that thing has a 'ppa1' in its name - tells us theres proberly a PPA for it that lets you use the package manager..
[15:12] <lexvegas> Protomega, at least the basics. it would help a lot.
[15:12] <lexvegas> !manual | Protomega
[15:12] <Protomega> Thank you bud. :)
[15:12] <lexvegas> Protomega, no problem
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !pylint | Protomega
[15:12] <yoann674> Hi dear linux community ! I am a very beginner and I encounter a problem while setting an adhoc connection hosted by Ubuntu for a xp pc. I followed an ubuntu tutorial, the xp pc gets connected to my adhoc, but impossible to get any internet. I do not understand where to look ^^
[15:13] <lahwran> lemme rephrase: I would like alerts in xchat for channels that are not focused. #xchat told me that the solution is to install x-tray, and that if I do not have it, I should ask in my distro channel, which would be here.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Protomega, check pylint, it may be what you're lookin for
[15:13] <zallos> hmmm package manager is the archive manager?
[15:13] <zallos> it only lets me extract
[15:13] <lahwran> zallos: what are you trying to install?
[15:13] <Protomega> I will as soon as I finish up reading the firs thing BluesKaj :)
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  package manager handles installing/removeing/updateing..  the fact the .deb packages are compressed archives.. is not really relavant.
[15:14] <lexvegas> yoann674, have you set the eth0 or whatever your lan card is on the ubuntu machine to "shared" under the network manager?
[15:14] <zallos> and i get 4 folders etc lib32 opt and usr
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> zallos:  you DONT want to be using stuff you  just 'download' from some dropbox site...
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> zallos: then its a binary, not source
[15:14] <zallos> lahwran i am trying to install this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/971117/dev/ppstream_1.0.0-2%2Bxdg~ppa1_amd64.tar.gz
[15:14] <Protomega> Might I ask; What is the one thing that made you say to yourself "I'm sticking with Linux".
[15:14] <formaldehyd> yeah i got it running!!
[15:14] <yoann674> I have not touched it, i go look for that !
[15:14] <formaldehyd> earned a beer now
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> http://blog.diyersitzone.net/2010/05/18/ppstream-on-ubuntu-10-04/
[15:15] <Guest89416> hey, my Atheros AR9285 keeps cugtting out in ubuntu 10.10, any help?
[15:15] <Protomega> Personally for me it was being able to have multiple workspaces -- Giving me the ability to multitask easier.
[15:15] <tycable> !find tycable
[15:15] <zallos> wow Dr Willis!
[15:15] <lahwran> tycable: hah nice
[15:15] <lexvegas> yoann674, right click the network icon, and choose edit connections. fine your card and pick edit. go to IPv4 and change from DHCP to shared to other computers
[15:15] <zallos> lemme try that out
[15:16] <tuzlo> I want to run mysql on this box but possibly access it from another computer networked on the same network, is there anything different I need to do to the Passwords?
[15:16] <lexvegas> Protomega, workspaces and the ability to change ANYTHING i want as opposed to what microsoft wants me to change
[15:17] <Protomega> lexvegas: Wait so is it true that everything on Linux, even Ubuntu, can be customized in anyway you could possibly imagine?
[15:18] <species> lexvegas: what sort of customisations are you running right now?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> tuzlo: just connect to the sql socket from another PC. Should be ok
[15:18] <species> Protomega: if you need to customise it somehow you can, because its open source, thats the point
[15:18] <tuzlo> ActionParsnip, this will work with the root login as well?
[15:18] <vskram21> have a problem with sony vaio e series, mounting hdd takes too long time n results in slow boot of ubuntu takes more that 2 minites..to get me the login page
[15:18] <species> Protomega: although in real terms its not often customised by individuals but by groups who have some specific requirment
[15:18] <compdoc> everything can be changed, but its prolly not a good idea
[15:18] <red2kic> Protomega: Yes. It is true. Most people just stick with whatever Canonical gave them.
[15:19] <vskram21> [   42.670485] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[15:19] <vskram21> [  110.978424] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[15:19] <stefg> vskram21: got the latest bios for that machine?
[15:19] <vskram21> how do i get that.?
[15:19] <stefg> vskram21: sony support site
[15:19] <Darael> I'm having some problems with Flash in 64-bit Ubuntu.  Have tested both repository-32-bit and native-64-bit flash player.  In any case, pressing the shift key is registered, but releasing it doesn't seem to be, unless there's a text-entry area in the Flash.  Example of places it can happen: http://ur1.ca/3cg3b
[15:20] <Protomega> compdoc: Why is that?
[15:20] <Protomega> red2kic: Same question as I gave to compdoc -- Why is that?
[15:21] <compdoc> because most settings are already correct
[15:21] <vskram21> stefg: i don't have windows can i do that in ubuntu 10.10 64 bit?
[15:21] <zallos> Ubuntu ROCKS UR SOCKS OFF!
[15:21] <Darael> Protomega: I would say that almost everything available for Linux, including Ubuntu, is modifiable in any way you have the /competence/ to do so.  The competence required is massively variable, and there are a few things (non-free drivers) that you can't modify because the source isn't available.
[15:21] <Toph> hi there xc
[15:22] <pw-toxic_> please help me repair my raid5! i cant find my partition table
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Darael: what is the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf     use http://pastie.org to host the output, thanks
[15:22] <red2kic> Protomega: Presumbly because they didn't know it was possible. The very same reasons why many people stick with Windows... They didn't know any better and are afraid of unfamiliarity.
[15:22] <Darael> Protomega: And compdoc is right that in Ubuntu most things are better left alone unless you have a very good reason to modify them.
[15:22] <red2kic> Protomega: When you buy a machine, it came with Windows. You assume you have to use whatever that thing is.
[15:22] <Protomega> Darael: For the fun of it :P
[15:22] <stefg> vskram21: i don't know about sony supprt practices.my usual thinkpads got their bios updates by downloadable .iso-images which i burn to cd and boot from there
[15:23] <Darael> Protomega: Sure, if it's not a machine that you need working!
[15:23] <lexvegas> yoann792, youhave to make sure that the card that your internet if coming to is set to DHCP and the card that is shared to is set to shared
[15:23] <vskram21> stefg: thank u
[15:23] <Protomega> red2kic: I actually stuck with Windows because I tried Ubuntu and was so intimidated, and I didn't know there was an IRC community full of willing people to help.
[15:23] <Darael> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/1613341
[15:23] <red2kic> Darael: No, compdoc is not right. You're better off finding out what you like the most. I don't like the indicator. I find them silly so I don't have it. Ubuntu allows you to make a transition to linux world. From there, you should start exploring things on your own.
[15:24] <yoann792> ok i go checking that =)
[15:24] <lexvegas> Protomega, everything, including stuff you probably shouldnt ;)
[15:24] <Darael> red2kic: I submit that "I don't like it" is a very good reason.
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Darael: ok try: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer
[15:24] <lexvegas> species, i run desktop wall with a few custom shortcuts for the switching functions
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Darael: then open a browser to some flash content like: http://www.rathergood.com/blode2
[15:24] <goldeneye> hello - i want to play an mms:// url in ubuntu for streaming  - how can i do that? thanks.
[15:25] <red2kic> Protomega: Heh. I feel the same thing. Things were very different and I went back. Six months later, there were a new release so I gave it a go. The only thing I did was that I made a full commitment to linux by forcing myself... I moved all my files, docs, movies, etc right over to linux and just try it. It works out pretty well. :)
[15:25] <lexvegas> yoann792, and you have to restart the ubuntu machine to share the internet
[15:25] <stefg> vskram21: as a quick run down: check that youhave latest bios,then check that the hd is ok, and properly connected. After all the lowlevel stuff is sorted out then do a pastebin of 'dmesg' and come back
[15:25] <Protomega> Darael: True... I accidentally installed Ubuntu over Windows which is sort of okay, but I got rid of Autodesk Maya and Unity.. Now I need to hope that both Maya and Unity are compatible with Ubuntu.
[15:25] <yoann792> oh ok i try
[15:25] <Darael> Protomega: http://appdb.winehq.org is your friend.
[15:26] <red2kic> Protomega: You're better off using Autodesk Maya on Windows. Some people have multiple OS. Use Windows if you have to... for work and such. It's your choice.
[15:26] <stefg> Protomega: check the geeks at #winehq
[15:27] <Protomega> red2kic: Yea, I just have to figure out how to split this partition up so I can place Windows on it -- I would go with Wine but I actually would prefer using Windows for Maya and Unity.
[15:27] <Darael> ActionParsnip: It complains (as expected) about a missing plugin.
[15:28] <stefg> Protomega: is the machine powerful enough to be able to accept some performance loss by virtualization?
[15:28] <vskram21> stefg: http://pastebin.com/pAK4w2zC
[15:28] <goldeneye> hello - i want to play an mms:// url in ubuntu for streaming  - how can i do that? thanks.
[15:28] <skydubble> hi
[15:28] <Worms> hello people
[15:29] <skydubble> where are you from?
[15:29] <red2kic> goldeneye: VLC, my wild guess.
[15:29] <Worms> plz give me us skype
[15:29] <red2kic> !skype | Worms
[15:29] <Protomega> stefg: No, it really needs as much performance as it can get.
[15:29] <stefg> vskram21: i'll have a look
[15:29] <Darael> goldeneye: I suggest using VLC (it's in the Software Centre).  You can probably use Totem (AKA Movie Player) but I know it can be done in VLC and I prefer it anyway.
[15:29] <vskram21> stefg:  there is a bios update available but it's in exe format will that work over wine.?
[15:29] <skydubble> USA?
[15:29] <rizzuh> What file system should I use for a file server? The size will potentially be 24TB (8x3TB disks) in RAID 6. Reliability is king, speed is not an issue since it'll server over CIFS/NFS.
[15:29] <stefg> vskram21: no... the exe is probably a self extracting archive
[15:29] <Darael> skydubble: This is a support channel; there's people from all over.  For chat, I suggest #ubuntu-offtopic.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: ext4 if you ask me
[15:30] <goldeneye> Darel - ok thanks. should it be straightforward in terms if olaying the url?
[15:30] <Worms> us no have skype?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Worms: its in the partner repo
[15:30] <server_> ppl. i have a pretty weird issue. i have one wireless router with 2 connected PCs to it. the pcs can ping the router & are connected to the internet (both of them). but they cannot ping eachother. is there a solution for this?
[15:30] <Protomega> There are a few things I don't understand... Like why Windows hasn't implemented features like multiple workspaces.
[15:31] <stefg> Protomega: so dual boot is the way for you... have some external disk to backup your entire internal disk ?
[15:31] <server_> Worms: you're from germany; right?
[15:31] <server_> !info skype | Worms
[15:31] <Protomega> stefg: Um... I have a 1TB External Harddrive if that's what you were asking.
[15:31] <stefg> !skype
[15:31] <server_> !skype | Worms
[15:31] <yoann578> >lexvegas> thank you so much ! it works now ! Have a so nice end of week end (this goes also for all the community ^^)
[15:31] <Protomega> stefg: It's not connected currently though.
[15:31] <Worms> no i from rus
[15:32] <server_> ppl. i have a pretty weird issue. i have one wireless router with 2 connected PCs to it. the pcs can ping the router & are connected to the internet (both of them). but they cannot ping eachother. is there a solution for this?
[15:32] <lexvegas> yoann578, no problem. glad you got it working!
[15:32] <yoann578> me too ! :p see you !
[15:32] <Williwaller> hi all, I'm trynig to install 10.10 on an eeepc 901, it goes well untill reboot where it gets stuck on a black screen displaying : "(process:309):GLib-WARNING : getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)" Can someone help?
[15:32] <lexvegas> server_, maybe your router filters ping requests? or maybe a firewall?
[15:32] <stefg> Protomega: i was just asking because it seems likely that you have to repartiton your hd. Without a backup this can be nerve-wrecking :-\
[15:33] <Worms> I simply want to practise my English give me the skype
[15:33] <Darael> goldeneye: Sorry for response-delay.  It should be, yes.
[15:33] <stefg> !skype
[15:33] <Protomega> stefg: Yea it probably will be.. Mind if I come on here for help when I get to that point in time?
[15:33] <IdleOne> Worms: in a terminal type: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[15:34] <BluesKaj> server_, do you want to connect the pcs thru the LAN , then try ssh as longas they're both linux machines , otherwise try smb or samba
[15:34] <IdleOne> Worms: all of that in one command
[15:34] <nash__> hellooo worm
[15:34] <Worms> ðóääù
[15:34] <Worms> hello
[15:34] <jon_athon> how do I get my canon digital camera to come up on my computer?
[15:34] <Darael> ActionParsnip: (this just in case you missed the last one; sorry for repeat) Purging flashplugin-installer and loading a page including a flash results, as expected, in a complaint about a missing plugin.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> server_, of course smb and samba work on a linux network as well
[15:35] <server_> lexvegas: router & other firewalls have been disabled.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Darael: ok then install flashplugin-nonfree and restart the browser
[15:35] <nash__> whois
[15:35] <lexvegas> server_, thats all I have, sorry
[15:35] <skydubble> If installing ubuntu at my computer, Can I use Itunes??
[15:35] <server_> BluesKaj: they're connected via wifi. i can't even ping the machines. how can i use samba then?
[15:35] <nash__> hey do u help me in linux
[15:35] <xangua> skydubble: you can use rhythmbox, banshee, amarok,e tc
[15:35] <tvxq> no skydubble, but you can use rythmbox to sync your ipod touch / ipod's / iphone
[15:35] <Worms> us no have skype?)
[15:35] <hihihi100> i need to change the permissions of a folder (FGFS), to do so I need the CHMOD command, but I dont knoe the exact line to type: is it sudo chmod [username here] [path to folder] ?
[15:35] <xangua> nash__: you haven't say your problem
[15:36] <xangua> Worms: we have already told you how
[15:36] <[segfault]> server_: if you are sure that no software firewalls are blocking ICMP, you could check with a direct pc to pc lan connection to rule things out.
[15:36] <tvxq> hey, my Atheros AR9285 keeps cugtting out in ubuntu 10.10, any help?
[15:36] <tuzlo> anyone familiar with the drupal and LAMP installation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal I have installed this as per the directions but when I got to Drupal's install.php it tells me theree are no clean URL's but I checked the file and the changes were made and apache was rebooted
[15:36] <IdleOne> Worms: do you want to install skype or you want someone to talk to on skype?
[15:36] <skydubble> Ok Thanks very much :D
[15:36] <server_> [segfault]: how do you mean pc to pc?
[15:36] <wedwo-> IdleOne, he's looking for skype contacts
[15:36] <server_> [segfault]: LAN to LAN?
[15:37] <IdleOne> wedwo-: I think you might be right
[15:37] <server_> [segfault]: so i plug a rj45 in one computer & the other end on the other computer?
[15:37] <nash__> #wedwo
[15:37] <[segfault]> server_: just a direct cat5 cable
[15:37] <stefg> vskram21: your rootfilesystem is/was damaged  .... so ubuntu tried to repair it, which took a while
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Williwaller: http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/10-4-boot-problem-glib-warning-help-197907291.html
[15:37] <[Jie-Dnk]> hallo
[15:37] <BluesKaj> server , install smbclient on both pcs , smbserver is installed by default on ubuntu
[15:37] <server_> [segfault]: don't i need a crossover cable for that?
[15:37] <Worms> pfff i want speak with amerixan boys or girls who have skype?
[15:37] <[segfault]> server_: you can set static IPs and test.. most don't need xover anymore I don't believe
[15:37] <Worms> american*
[15:37] <server_> Worms: you should go on dating #irc.
[15:37] <xangua> Worms: this is not the place, perhaps offtopic ¿¿
[15:38] <IdleOne> Worms: try asking in #skype, /join #skype
[15:38] <[segfault]> server_: use an old switch if you need to instead of a xover
[15:38] <nash__> hey worm from where u r
[15:38] <[Jie-Dnk]> lag
[15:38] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Flash now loads, sticky-shift problem persists.  I note that flashplugin-nonfree depends on flashplugin-installer.
[15:39] <joeoshawa> to get my internet to work i have to type sudo dhclient eth0    how do i make it so my internet works on startup
[15:39] <Protomega> Can a 64x computer run 32x?
[15:39] <lexvegas> server_,from what I can tell, most semi modern LAN chips dont need Xover cables
[15:39] <IdleOne> Protomega: yes
[15:39] <server_> [segfault]: lexvegas: gonna try that
[15:39] <[segfault]> server_: if you want to start at an easier point, you can direct wire to through that same router rather than wifi and see if it helps things.. it will save you setting static ips and all.
[15:39] <Protomega> >.> Okay so what exactly is the difference? Just how the memory is allocated or?
[15:40] <server_> [segfault]: that isn't that easy ;D
[15:40] <nash__> -o nash
[15:40] <Darael> Protomega: The size of the CPU's registers is the primary factor.  A 64-bit machine can handle more RAM, and is faster at crunching large numbers, which is good for stuff like video rendering.
[15:40] <[segfault]> server_: isn't that the way of things :P
[15:41] <server_> [segfault]: probably yeah :D
[15:41] <nash__> #nexus
[15:41] <cyix> Somehow I managed to associate opeing Places>Folder with Audacious. How can I switch it back to the default file manager?
[15:41] <Protomega> Darael: Awesome thanks bud.. Again
[15:41] <IdleOne> nash__: Do you need help with anything Ubuntu related?
[15:42] <skydubble> See you later
[15:42] <xangua> cyix: create a folder>right clic>open with other>open folder
[15:42] <Darael> ActionParsnip: (another repeat, apologies again...) Flash now loads, sticky-shift problem persists.  I note that flashplugin-nonfree depends on flashplugin-installer.
[15:43] <Guest16400> 这个不错
[15:43] <IdleOne> !cn
[15:43] <xangua> Darael: nonfree is just a transicion package i believe
[15:43] <Guest16400> 来个人 聊聊
[15:43] <mintux> my /dev/ttyACM0 is busy how can I release it ? I can not open wammu
[15:43] <xangua> transition ... how do you say¿¿ :S
[15:43] <Guest16400> HELLO
[15:43] <goldeneye> Dareal - it played the clip but didnt play sound in vlc for mms stream - any idea?
[15:44] <Guest16400> WHO HELP ME
[15:44] <guspur> salam
[15:44] <IdleOne> Guest16400: type /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:44] <Darael> xangua: I thought that was the case.  I mentioned it because ActionParsnip had me remove flashplugin-installer earlier.
[15:44] <server_> !arabic |guspur
[15:45] <nash__> help me please
[15:45] <Darael> goldeneye: Sorry, I'm not sure.
[15:45] <IdleOne> nash__: help you with what?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Darael: not sure about the shift thing, has anyone else reported it
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Darael: does it happen in other browser/
[15:46] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Not that I've been able to find anywhere on the internet.  It happens in every browser I've tried (so far Chromium, Firefox and Midori)
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Darael: tried Opera maybe (?)
[15:46] <Darael> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a go...
[15:47] <mintux> how can see open port or path ?
[15:47] <alex_> hi
[15:47] <hihihi100> i nee to change the owner of a folder with chown, what exactly do I have to type? I follow the sudo chown tux foobar synthax, but nothing happens
[15:47] <hihihi100> need
[15:47] <Darael> !elaborate | mintux
[15:48] <Darael> hihihi100: sudo chown <user> /path/to/file
[15:48] <alex_> what s your issue
[15:48] <Jeruvy> hihihi100: sudo chown user:group  /path
[15:48] <mintux> how can see open port or path ? like /dev/ttyACM0 is is busy . I want to know what process toke it
[15:48] <vskram21> stefg: this is happening every time i boot my machine...
[15:48] <fdf> ae
[15:48] <joeoshawa> if i cannot connect to the internet till i type sudo dhclient eth0 does that mean my computer is not grabbing an ip and how do i fix it
[15:48] <wedwo-> !who | alex_
[15:49] <vskram21> stefg: how would bios update fix this.?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> joeoshawa: are their lights around the ethernet port and are they lit / flashing?
[15:49] <hihihi100> jeruvy, sudo chown hihihi100 /usr/share/games/FlightGear ?
[15:50] <Darael> hihihi100: That should work.  Perhaps you don't need to change the owner but rather need to make it executable?
[15:50] <Darael> hihihi100: Why are you trying to chown something in /usr?
[15:50] <Guest96040> Nickserv
[15:50] <hihihi100> darael, no, i need to change the owner, cause addind new aircraft, or updating FGS is really a pin if everytime I have to do itr as root
[15:50] <stefg> vskram21: looks like hardware trouble.... bad ram or hd at the edge of its lifespan ... i'd install smartmontools and check, and let a memtest run overnight
[15:51] <hihihi100> darael, because when I first installed FGFS i used a folder in usr/share/games
[15:51] <stefg> !info smartmontools
[15:51] <Jeruvy> hihihi100: yes, looks ok.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> joeoshawa: also try a different port on your router / switch
[15:51] <hihihi100> jeruvy, pasted and executed sudo chown hihihi100 /usr/share/games/FlightGear, nothing happened
[15:51] <hihihi100> ls -l hasnt changed
[15:51] <vskram21> thank u
[15:52] <hihihi100> please take a look at http://pastebin.com/0DhMw3Jg
[15:53] <Gr8Q> I am in trouble. I could not have nm-applet to load! I have to recreate another partition and load another instance of ubuntu what can i do to repair network manager
[15:53] <Jeruvy> hihihi100: a couple files changed owner, do you want to alter the entire folder?
[15:54] <hihihi100> jeruvy, yes, I want the whole FlightGear folder to be owned by hihihi100, and not by root
[15:54] <Darael> hihihi100: chown -R
[15:54] <erUSUL> hihihi100: why?
[15:54] <vskram21> only the booting is very slow and once i get my gnome up every thing is o.k.. i am able to share file at the rate of 40Mbps.
[15:54] <hihihi100> erusul, because adding new aircraft, or updating FGS is a pain in the ass if I have to do it as root
[15:54] <stefg> Gr8Q: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1506720 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1074132&page=2
[15:54] <Jeruvy> hihihi100: sudo chown -R user /folder/
[15:55] <Protomega> So is there a file that is used to edit how the GNOME (I'm assuming that's where the workspace navigation is configured) enviroment is setup?
[15:55] <erUSUL> hihihi100: what if some other user of the machine wants to use the program an it fails becouse of permissions issues?
[15:55] <hihihi100> sudo chown -R hihihi100 /usr/share/games/FlightGear ?
[15:56] <jtniehof> mintux: try sudo lsof /dev/ttyACM0
[15:56] <erUSUL> hihihi100: frnkly sudo cp -r aircraft_folder/ /usr/share/games/FlightGear/planes/ is not that pain in the ass but whatever....
[15:56] <stefg> Protomega: gconf ...that's not a file,more like a database (did anybody say registry? .-)
[15:56] <hihihi100> erusul, by user you mean person? I am the only user of this machine, hihihi100 is the only user (besides root) that uses my machine
[15:56] <jtniehof> mintux: for ports, look at netstat
[15:56] <mintux> ok thanks
[15:56] <hihihi100> erusul, my knowledge of computing is awfully bad
[15:56] <Protomega> stefg: Is it not something that is easily editable?
[15:57] <hihihi100> but thanks for pastiong the correct code to add aircraft with root as use
[15:57] <hihihi100> user owner
[15:57] <erUSUL> Protomega: what are you trying to change?
[15:57] <stefg> Protomega: gconf-editor (did anybody say regedit?)
[15:57] <Naeblis> I'm pretty sure my xubuntu crash is caused by mozilla's flash plugin. Any solutions?
[15:57] <hihihi100> erusul, do you also have FGFS installed as root?
[15:57] <erUSUL> wine's regedit is a different program ;P
[15:57] <s5s> hey gyus I was using btrfs but my system crapped out. Now I can't boot a liveCD (lol) because the kernel detects the disk with btrfs and panics or whatever and just goes in a loop. I can boot a liveCD if I remove the hard drive but then I want to reinstall using ext4. Is it possible to pass kernel flags to prevent the btrfs module from loading?
[15:58] <Darael> Protomega: Most GNOME settings are in ~/.gnome2 and ~/.config.  Some is in ~/.cache - workspace nav is handled by Compiz if you have desktop effects turned on so you'd need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:58] <erUSUL> hihihi100: yes;but i do not play that much. installed it as curiosity
[15:58] <Protomega> erUSUL: I want to see if I can make it so holding Shift+Ctrl+Alt and then pressing an arrow key would set the current window to move to the corresponding workspace.
[15:58] <hihihi100> erusul, everybody in the flightgear forums suggest me to change the owner
[15:58] <hihihi100> ill try yyour way this time
[15:59] <stefg> s5s: are you certain that the hd is still intact? ... usually hd'swith a dead controller cause problemslike that
[15:59] <Darael> Protomega: Either system->preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts, or install and use compizconfig-settings-manager (assuming you have desktop effects on)
[15:59] <erUSUL> hihihi100: i already say "whatever" :) if you want to do it i am not going to stop you
[15:59] <stefg> s5s: are you certain that the hd is still intact? ... usually hd's with a dead controller cause problemsl ike that
[15:59] <vskram21> stefg: only the booting is very slow and once i get my gnome up every thing is o.k.. i am able to share file at the rate of 40Mbps.
[16:00] <slinzex> Have problem with X-CHANGE PDF viewer .exe
[16:00] <slinzex> fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub!
[16:00] <slinzex> When try to run, it closes.
[16:00] <Protomega> Oh.. There already is something for that
[16:00] <s5s> stefg: yes. It was working when I shutdown. However, I had to cut the power off and I suppose it lost data. The hdd is new - about 6 months and has been working fine since
[16:01] <erUSUL> slinzex: is a windows program in wine?
[16:01] <s5s> stefg: unless btrfs broke it somehow but I doubt it
[16:01] <erUSUL> !appdb | slinzex
[16:01] <Gr8Q> ok stefg i will boot again and check this out
[16:01] <Darael> ActionParsnip: With Opera, flash doesn't recognise pressing the shift key in the first place!
[16:01] <slinzex> erUSUL yes is a windows programs in wine
[16:01] <stefg> vskram21: nevertheless your root ext4 filesystem is corrupted and needed/needs repair at every boot... you should think over that. I had trouble with ext4, too.  As i found out out it was a bad stick of ram
[16:01] <erUSUL> slinzex: check support in the appdb
[16:01] <orplin> hey there! when i start Xephyr with "Xephyr -ac -screen 1280x1024 -br -reset -terminate 2> /dev/null :1 &" how can i start a specific window manager inside that xephyr window then? "DISPLAY=:1 xinit /path/to/wm -- :1 &" somehow won't work...
[16:02] <nash__> status
[16:02] <slinzex> ubottu ok I'll try
[16:02] <armence> Hello all. I would like to install ubuntu in a VM within ubuntu. I would ideally not want that process to be too big of a burden since I plan on doing it often-ish (to test packaging). What would you recommend?
[16:02] <nash__> armence
[16:02] <Darael> slinzex: Do you absolutely need to use X-CHANGE?  There's an enormous number of native PDF viewers; you could try one of those.
[16:02] <s5s> stefg: I think the message was something about a sector and expecting 6200 but getting 6002 (lol at that description)
[16:02] <aeon-ltd> armence: virtualbox
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> armence: virtualbox is easy to setup
[16:03] <jtniehof> Naeblis: I use a flash blocker so flash only runs when I want it. Package xul-ext-flashblock on Ubuntu 10.10. Might help you with the debugging
[16:03] <s5s> armence: there are other ways to do that. Look at chroot
[16:03] <erUSUL> s5s: have you fsck'ed the btrfs partition ? does btrfs has a fsck ?
[16:03] <slinzex> Darael yes but, I need the best PDF viewer witch let's me make annotations in pdf
[16:03] <s5s> erUSUL: I don't think it has
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> slinzex: there is no best
[16:03] <Darael> erUSUL: btrfs doesn't have a working fsck in Maverick.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> slinzex: you can use pdfedit to edit pdf files
[16:04] <Darael> s5s: Btrfs trouble?  What's the issue?
[16:04] <slinzex> Darael if you check PDF xchange viewer it has a lot of functions to make annotations
[16:04] <erUSUL> s5s: well it does ;P
[16:04] <armence> s5s: I'm using chroot to perform the packaging, but when testing, I want to eliminate as many variables as possible (including the possibility I don't really understand chroot as much as I think I do)
[16:04] <stefg> s5s: usually the bios (which selects from which device to bnoot) is not aware of filesystems... if it is a S-ATA drive and a reasonable motherboard you can even hotplug the drive after booting. I'd dd it then to zero as the first step
[16:04] <Naeblis> jtniehof: so it willask my permission each time before running any flash content? seems inconvenient :(
[16:05] <s5s> stefg: I plugged it but the LiveCD running doesn't see it. dmesg doesn't show it's in...
[16:05] <jtniehof> Naeblis: it shows a window that you click on to start the flash. Can always uninstall it once you're done with the debugging.
[16:05] <slinzex> ActionParsnip but pdfEdit is bad for me
[16:05] <sharperguy> Hmm. Well I just rebooted my machine and suddenly I have no GLX extension. I think the problem might be that I installed a python library that is meant for nvidia (I'm on intel chipset), but I have no idea what it changes or how to revert it. I have no xorg.conf and my xorg.conf.d directory has no relevant files
[16:06] <stefg> s5s: i'd use something like sysrescd for plumbing ....
[16:06] <stefg> !rescue
[16:06] <stefg> bah
[16:06] <Naeblis> jtniehof: thanks, installing it :)
[16:06] <stefg> !sysrescd
[16:06] <s5s> Darael: I had Ubuntu with btrfs with /boot / and /home (/boot was ext4 actually). How I had to cut the power to reboot and the kernel goes in a loop when trying to load the btrfs module complaining about expecting a value 6200 and getting 6002 at some sector
[16:07] <slinzex> ActionParsnip: I don't need to edit. Just need to make annotations while I'm reading pdf files.
[16:07] <berefeira>  /j #crunchbang
[16:07] <sharperguy> Ok, for some reason it's installed the nvidia graphics driver, but isn't running it.
[16:07] <stefg> s5s: you might consider resetting your bios
[16:07] <Darael> s5s: I had that issue - or a similar one.  Have you tried loading an old kernel?  If that doesn't work, It may be a corrupted log tree.
[16:07] <pauk960> hi, everyone, I have a problem with frozen dpkg process and I can't kill it, I tried everything (except reboot). can somebody help me?
[16:08] <s5s> Darael: I only have one kernel. Live CD nor the HDD install will boot
[16:08] <s5s> Darael: both panic when the btrfs module is loaded
[16:08] <Darael> s5s: Do you get a shell eventually?  Busybox, it would be, IIRC...
[16:09] <slinzex> How can I check if my UBUNTU has the latest updates for all progs?
[16:09] <Protomega> Is there an easier way to resize windows other than trying to pick the edge?
[16:09] <s5s> Darael: I'll try and do it again. I'll reboot and be back to tell you wether I've managed to log in. Otherwise I logged in using a LiveCD by removing the HDD
[16:10] <s5s> Darael: and I'm using web irc
[16:10] <Darael> slinzex: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade.
[16:10] <pauk960> protomega: use alt+f8
[16:10]  * stefg finds himself once more acknowledged by preferring xfs for most of his filesystems .... broken ext4 here, non-booting btrfs there .....
[16:10] <vskram21> stefs: my harddisk passed the smart test
[16:10] <Protomega> Awesome thanks.
[16:11] <Naeblis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/670665  <-- THIS is my actual problem.
[16:11] <erUSUL> slinzex: run the update manager
[16:11] <Darael> s5s: That'll get you the latest versions in the repositories.  If there are newer versions that aren't in the repos, you'd have to compile them yourself - easier to stick to the repo versions.  If you're really sure you want the newest version of things, consider moving to Debian unstable.
[16:11] <slinzex> Darael: I've done this, but still having some issues. I think I have problems with sources
[16:11] <Darael> slinzex: Apologies, the above was intended for you.
[16:11] <Darael> slinzex: Pastebin any errors you're getting, please.
[16:12] <hobbel> Is there an easy way to get wifi without network-manager? WPA2 enterprise doesnt work for me.
[16:12] <Protomega> Woo! Ubuntu recognizes the "Calculator" button on my Microsoft Keyboard! :P
[16:12] <Darael> hobbel: Try installing and using wicd.
[16:12] <Naeblis> Undecided,New :/
[16:15] <vskram21> stefs: how do i test if my RAM is proper.?
[16:16] <Darael> vskram21: Memtest86+ is installed by default.  When booting your machine, hold shift immediately after the BIOS screen and you should get a GRUB menu.  Choose the memtest option to run tests on your RAM.
[16:16] <Darael> vskram21: The above assumes you have Ubuntu installed.  If not, run an Ubuntu live CD and choose the memory test from the initial menu on that.
[16:17] <rick_2047> hey people I just changed my monitor, but it is not getting detected, its a compaq monitor some years old
[16:18] <rick_2047> the resolution is set to 800x600 while I know the monitor can support more than tha
[16:18] <Daghdha> re there any tools to manage my grub2 stuff in the GUI?
[16:19] <vskram21> stefs: idon't think my RAM is the problem.
[16:19] <Darael> Daghdha: basically, no.  Sorry.
[16:19] <vskram21> stefs: i ve reinstalled ubuntu for the 6 th time..facing the same proble
[16:20] <Daghdha> :(
[16:20] <Daghdha> Because it's wrong, when it boots i can select and press enter. but i want it to start booting automatically
[16:21] <jogu> can anybody help me troubleshoot installing ubuntu, i've been having a lot of troubles trying both wubi and a full install
[16:22] <Darael> Daghdha: Sorry, you'll need to do it the hard way.  You can at least use a graphical editor (eg gksu gedit /etc/default/grub)
[16:22] <pwnzrlolz> Daghdha: You can look at startup-manager.  It will let you change which OS is selected by default and the timout.
[16:22] <Darael> jogu: Give us a little more detail and someone will help if they recognise each problem.
[16:22] <Daghdha> interesting
[16:23] <frandieguez> Hi, all. Someone knows if the latest macbook pro graphics card (AMD Radeon HD 6490M) works in ubuntu? I have searched in amd website, ubuntu wiki and in other sites but I didn't found any reference about it.
[16:23] <Darael> pwnzrlolz: IIRC startup-manager works only with grub, not grub2.  I could be wrong, of course.
[16:23] <jogu> It's pretty interesting, i've installed ubuntu many times before but im at a total loss here
[16:23] <jogu> if I try to install through wubi it says no root filesystem defined
[16:23] <vskram21> darael: thank u
[16:23] <Daghdha> Darael: the description in package manager would indicate you are indeed correct
[16:24] <jogu> when I try to do a full install through the dvd it detects my hard drive but none of the partitions on it
[16:24] <pwnzrlolz> Darael: Looking at startup-manager online it says it can handle grub2
[16:24] <Darael> pwnzrlolz: Ah.  Probably that version hasn't yet made it into Ubuntu, then, in light of what Daghda says.
[16:24] <jogu> im trying to dual boot with win7 so I need to make sure it recognizes that partion(instead of just saying the full 500GB of my hardrive is free space, which it's not)
[16:24] <Daghdha> 2008?
[16:25] <pwnzrlolz> jogu: have you tried installing via wubi?
[16:25] <jogu> Yes, i mentioned i've tried it and it says no root filesystem defined
[16:25] <Protomega> Screw Windows.. Honestly.. .<Name Here> hides folders and in Windows you have to do like three extra things that Ubuntu does with one extra character.
[16:25] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION:If anybody know of a youtube video downloader
[16:25] <Darael> jogu: Try the Alternate CD?  It's often better at situations the live cd doesn't handle well.
[16:26] <Darael> thauriswulfa: Plenty.  I suggest http://tinyogg.com because it converts to a free and open format.
[16:26] <jogu> I was reading it might have something to do with a corrupt partition table, but I really have no idea how I would fix it
[16:26] <SupeR_NovA> This source ksplice can it be considered stable for Ubuntu 10.10 is it worth to install ...?
[16:26] <SupeR_NovA> help !
[16:27] <pwnzrlolz> jogu: can you boot into a live CD?
[16:27] <Darael> jogu: If it /is/ a corrupt partition table, install and run testdisk (in a live CD).  That will at least help with that part.
[16:27] <sacarlson> jogu: sounds like your not installing with wubi and if so you must have done manual partition
[16:27] <Darael> sacarlson: AIUI jogu can't install at all, with wubi or as a full install.
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> SupeR_NovA: Is there any particular reason you need ksplice?
[16:28] <var32> Hi all , i am looking for a way to get the user login count (like top does) based on /proc .. can anyone point me to relevant file under /proc , where i can get that information ?
[16:29] <JT13> question, I was formatting my brand new flash drive with my laptop and in the process i accidentlly hit the cancel button. now my flashdrive won
[16:29] <JT13> 't show up  what can i do to fix?
[16:29]  * lsaint love
[16:29] <thauriswulfa> darael: but i need some ubuntu software
[16:29] <jogu> okay well I'll boot into a live cd here and try running test disk brb
[16:29] <Daghdha> thanks pwnzrlolz, i tried the tool you suggested. Time will tell :) (Next reboot.. ) Thanks you too Darael
[16:29] <pragmaticenigma> JT13: Do you have another machine to test the flash drive with?
[16:30] <JT13> pragmaticenigma, yes i have tested with three machines
[16:30] <pwnzrlolz> Daghda: np
[16:30] <JT13> pragmaticenigma, i was hoping for a way to manually mount and then reformat.
[16:30] <Darael> thauriswulfa: in that case, try the youtube-dl package.
[16:30] <pragmaticenigma> JT13: Any of those machines by chance windows or mac?
[16:30] <SupeR_NovA> pragmaticenigma,  Well I do not know I only know that towel thing and you would tell me something specific to this source
[16:30] <compdoc> JT13, does the Disk Utility see it?
[16:31] <JT13> no all ubuntu but i do have a windows pragmaticenigma
[16:31] <thauriswulfa> darael: i tried it already, but it always say unable to download
[16:31] <JT13> and one sec compdoc let me check
[16:31] <compdoc> what about fdisk -l
[16:31] <Darael> thauriswulfa: In that case, my next suggestion is the clive package.
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> JT13: I would see if you can get it to come up in device manager in windows... at least it would tell you that the drive is good... another test in ubuntu would be to run lsusb from the command line with the drive in, and again with the drive out... that would at least tell you the system is seeing the drive being plugged into the computer
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> JT13: also grab the ultimate boot cd and test the disk with the manufacturers tool
[16:32] <var32> no need i think i found it /proc/keys
[16:32] <var32> thanks all
[16:32] <vitorleite> what's the stable version of ubuntu?:
[16:33] <JT13> ActionParsnip,  what do you mean?
[16:33] <var32> exit
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> !maverick | vitorleite
[16:33] <Darael> JT13: Also to see if Ubuntu is noticing the drive being plugged in, run "tail -f /var/log/dmesg" and plug it in, see what scrolls past.
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> SupeR_NovA: From my knowledge ksplice is for installing new kernels without requiring a reboot of the machine... I wouldn't install this utility unless your running some sort of server that has to stay up all the time.  Otherwise, I would wait for the Ubuntu developers to actually include ksplice within the ubuntu software library
[16:33] <LucyIntheSky> can print pdf files locally, can print documents on my windows 7 machine ( got samba w/ cups) however when I try to print PDF from my windows machine it either says im not allowed in /var/log/syslog or nothing happens.
[16:33] <Darael> vitorleite: See also Lucid, which is the stable Long Term Support release.
[16:33] <hihihi100> ls -l help please, take a look at http://pastebin.com/kRx47sJN and explain to me the second column
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> JT13: there is a CD with a tonne of great tools on, it has the drive testers from the main drive manufacturers to test the drive
[16:33] <vitorleite> thanks
[16:34] <JT13> pragmaticenigma,  compdoc Darael ActionParsnip ok disc utility sees it, shouldn't formatting from there work?
[16:34] <JT13> ActionParsnip,  ok where do i download the iso for thar?
[16:34] <compdoc> JT13, what filesystem?
[16:34] <pragmaticenigma> Disk utility from where? windows or ubuntu?
[16:34] <JT13> compdoc it says unknown
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> JT13: you'll find it if you search, it can also be used on a bootable usb too :)
[16:34] <pragmaticenigma> JT13: Disk utility from where? windows or ubuntu?
[16:34] <JT13> pragmaticenigma, ubuntu
[16:35] <compdoc> JT13, I mean what filesystem do you want to use? Dont those only support fat?
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> JT13: if the disk manager can see it, you should be able to format it from there
[16:35] <Darael> JT13: I don't see any reason why formatting it from palimpsest (aka disk utility) wouldn't work.
[16:35] <JT13> compdoc no they support all
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> ActionParsnip: UBCD isn't really a solution in this case...
[16:35] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Flash in Opera doesn't even recognise pressing shift in the first place!
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> compdoc: Flash drives can support any filesystem you want on them... most are formatted in FAT to make the easily compatible with all operating systems
[16:36] <compdoc> JT13, I think gparted is better to format
[16:36] <JT13> ok guys i am formatting from inside of disc utility now
[16:36] <Venemo> hi
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Darael: hmm, trie a different keyboard maybe (cluthing at straws)
[16:36] <JT13> compdoc but gparted can only be used from licve cd right?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> pragmaticenigma: thought you wanted drive testing..
[16:37] <Venemo> could anyone help me with how to download a piece of code from Launchpad? seems that bzr doesn't work like git or svn
[16:37] <pragmaticenigma> ActionParsnip: No, JT13  needs to be able to get the drive formatted, all I was checking for was the device recognized in the system so he could still access it in some fashion
[16:37] <Darael> Venemo: bzr branch lp:~user/branch
[16:37] <compdoc> no, if youre running most versions of linux, you can easily install it
[16:37] <jogu> okay I'm booted into a live cd what was it that I needed to install? testdisk?
[16:37] <SupeR_NovA> pragmaticenigma,  and soon will it take , Yet thanks to the comprehensive response
[16:38] <JT13> compdoc ok that is new and good to know i was undr the impression it was live cd only
[16:38] <Darael> jogu: Yeah, install testdisk and then run "sudo testdisk".
[16:38] <compdoc> JT13, gparted now correctly handles creating partitions on 4k sector drives, and SSD, etc
[16:38] <Venemo> thank you Darael
[16:39] <jogu> I should select Intel/PC partition right?
[16:40] <LucyIntheSky> can print pdf files locally, can print documents on my windows 7 machine ( got samba w/ cups) however when I try to print PDF from my windows machine it either says im not allowed in /var/log/syslog or nothing happens.
[16:40] <JT13> compdoc ActionParsnip pragmaticenigma Darael ok guys I have recovered my usb thank you for all of your help. it was wonderful.
[16:40] <pragmaticenigma> glad you have it working! JT13
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> LucyIntheSky: do you authenticate on the samba??
[16:41] <Darael> JT13: We do our best.  Glad to hear it works now.
[16:41] <zeratul2k> Hello, everyone!  For a while now the screen has been dimming, even with the AC adapter plugged and with ALL the related dimming options disabled in gnome-power-manager. The brightness keys don't work, so to restore the screen to full brightness I have to restart the computer (logging out and back again doesn't fix it)
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> zeratul2k: what model laptop (kinda useful)
[16:42] <zeratul2k> the computer is an HP probook 4710s0
[16:42] <pw-toxic_> can someone please help me repair my raid?
[16:42] <compdoc> zeratul2k, many laptops have power settings (including screen dimming) in the bios
[16:42] <LucyIntheSky> ActionParsnip, authenticate, I have force user and force group
[16:43] <Darael> jogu: Sorry about that.  Yes, you usually want that option.
[16:43] <zeratul2k> if so, shouldn't that happen in all OSes? this only happens in Ubuntu
[16:43] <zevonja> Anyone online that might help me? i`m having trouble installing fedora on my desktop pc
[16:43] <compdoc> some OSes might just be better at over-riding the biso settings
[16:43] <compdoc> bios
[16:44] <zeratul2k> well, gonna go take a look at it then and be back in a few
[16:44] <Darael> zevonja: You'd be better off trying #fedora!
[16:44] <LucyIntheSky> ActionParsnip, do I need that under [printers] also or just my share
[16:44] <pragmaticenigma> zeratul2k: what type of graphics card does your machine have in it?
[16:44] <jogu> so now I would want to analyse the partition structure?
[16:44] <pragmaticenigma> bummer... just missed him
[16:44] <zevonja> Darael, ?
[16:44] <Darael> jogu: That's right.
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> zevonja: feddora isn't supported here
[16:45] <zevonja> oh my bad
[16:45] <Darael> zevonja: This is #ubuntu, a channel for Ubuntu support.  For help installing Fedora, you probably want #fedora.  Type "/join #fedora" without the quotes and hit enter.
[16:45] <zevonja> i meant to say ubuntu
[16:45] <zevonja> sorry guys
[16:45] <sacarlson> jogu: I think you need to setup some free space for your secound system,  you may need to resize one so that you have at least 10gb space for a new partition to install ubuntu
[16:45] <zevonja> may i tell you the problem ?
[16:45] <Darael> zevonja: Ah, OK, that's fine.  In that case, could we have a little more detail about the problem?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> LucyIntheSky: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-printserver.html   may help, some good smb.conf entries there
[16:46] <bazhang> zevonja, pastebin sources.list please
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> zevonja: go for it :)
[16:46] <jogu> Well I have a 500gb hard drive with about 400gb partitioned for win7 and an empy unpartioned 100gb im trying to install ubnuntu to
[16:46] <LucyIntheSky> ActionParsnip, thx
[16:46] <sacarlson> jogu: if you already had windows on it and you think your files system had a problem then you should use that to analize and repair before you resize
[16:46] <zevonja> The problem is very common,it`s that initrfms unable to find medium type of problem but.. nothing seems to help when i try overrun this problem.. i tryed disabling ahci,disabling apci,tryed installing it visa usb,wubi,cd.. and nothing helped
[16:47] <jogu> hm yeah let me reboot brb
[16:47] <zevonja> i always get that message
[16:47] <bazhang> zevonja, on fedora 14?
[16:47] <zevonja> on ubnut 10.10
[16:47] <zevonja> i also tryed installing mints,running kubuntu
[16:47] <zevonja> got same error
[16:47] <zevonja> when trying installing fedora,i got other errors.. but lets stick to ubuntu now
[16:47] <zevonja> :)
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> zevonja: did you MD5 test the ubuntu ISO you downloaded?
[16:48] <zevonja> yes
[16:48] <zevonja> all verified
[16:48] <xrdodrx> zevonja, can you go into more detail about this: "it`s that initrfms unable to find medium type of problem" ??
[16:49] <xrdodrx> I don't understand
[16:49] <zevonja> it goes booting and stops with message
[16:49] <zevonja> initramfs "unable to find meidum containing a live file system"
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> zevonja: and did you check the CD for defects once it started to boot?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> zevonja: have you also tested your RAM?
[16:50] <zevonja> i googled ,and find out it`s very common.. but all of the sollutions i googled wouldnt help me out
[16:50] <zevonja> i tested ram with ram memory test
[16:50] <zevonja> on live cd
[16:50] <zevonja> everything is okay
[16:50] <zevonja> cd runs
[16:50] <zevonja> on my laptop
[16:50] <FloodBot3> zevonja: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <pragmaticenigma> zevonja: are you sure you don't mean initramfs?
[16:51] <zevonja> sorry,i`ll write in one line. yes,initramfs
[16:51] <Mikaze> Hello.  Does Ubuntu have that Mortal Kombat clone?  I'm blind and looking for fighter games to play.  Yes, by sound.  Gonna kick my nephew's little butts, and friggin Debian is so anally retentive, it no longer carries it, when I just saw the game in the listings only 3 months ago.
[16:51] <pragmaticenigma> zevonja: is this a clean harddrive you are attempting to install to?
[16:51] <zevonja> clean,formated,but i havent got to the installation process,it stops showing that message
[16:52] <sacarlson> zevonja: sounds like a media problem to me, is a usb flash disk avalable or do you already have a linux system installed?
[16:52] <iWaffles> so I tried upgrading ubuntu and now it cant even access the web (pinging google, etc). Any suggestions?
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> zevonja: do you have a different method of installing (different CD-ROM, USB Flash drive?)
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Mikaze: check the playdeb repo, it has lots of decent games :)
[16:52] <zevonja> no,i have a fresh hdd,formated,on one partition winxp,i tryed installing via usb,cd and even wubi
[16:52] <zevonja> and nothing helped
[16:52] <LinuxNoob> hmmm
[16:53] <LinuxNoob> zev can you restate your question?
[16:53] <LinuxNoob> whisper me if you want
[16:53] <Mikaze> What's the playdev repo?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Mikaze: it's DEB, not dev
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Mikaze: Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com julia/import amd64 Packages
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com julia/backport amd64 Packages
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com julia/romeo amd64 Packages
[16:54] <FloodBot3> ActionParsnip: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:54] <rizzuh> What size to I provide to lvcreate if I want to fill the whole volume? It's mdadm R5 of 4x1GB.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> oops
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Mikaze: http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/
[16:54] <BluesKaj> !alternate | zevonja
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> zevonja: have you tried the alternative install method?
[16:54] <zevonja> i didnt
[16:55] <Mikaze> ActionParsnip: Thank you.  Never heard of the place.
[16:55] <zevonja> i tryed wubi,cd,usb
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Mikaze: theres a deb file to add the repo, you can then install the games
[16:55] <Luca> hello how install LWP::UserAgent 5.829
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> zevonja: We are asking if you have tried the Alternate Install CD, check the link posted by ubottu
[16:55] <Mikaze> Kewl.
[16:56] <sacarlson> zevonja: what problem did you have with usb boot install?
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> zevonja: I would highly recommend downloading the Alternate Install disk and giving that a go, something in your computer's configuration of hardware is not letting the sytem see the image after it has started booting
[16:57] <zevonja> sacarlson same as with cd,or wubi.. initramfs unable to find a medium containing live file system
[16:57] <zevonja> pragmaticenigma,i will surely try that
[16:57] <sacarlson> zevonja: oh did you do an md5sum of the iso file you downloaded?
[16:57] <Mikaze> Seems like everywhere you go (with Debian at least), you have to source.lst 15 other sites to get things to make it support  the simplest formats.
[16:57] <zevonja> yep,first thing :)
[16:58] <Luca> (17:55) <Luca> hello how install LWP::UserAgent 5.829
[16:58] <sacarlson> zevonja: ok what version is it you are trying to install?
[16:58] <tdiso> Luca, che cose?
[16:58] <Mikaze> ActionParsnip: Thanks again...
[16:59] <sacarlson> zevonja: and what md5sum is it?
[16:59] <pragmaticenigma> sacarlson: he is attempting to installl the latest edition of Ubuntu, he has attempted to boot from flash, live cd, wubi without success, we are suggesting to him to try the alternate install cd
[16:59] <slinzex> Darael: Sorry for delay. I told that have problems with updates because for example in the software manager, I can't find some programs. My friend can see there Numpty Physics. Me not
[16:59] <zevonja> sacarlson,man it works great on my laptop
[16:59] <Luca> I got this error and I have ubuntu http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/573114/
[16:59] <zevonja> but doesnt want to run on my desk
[16:59] <Luca> on line 8 there is -> use WWW::Mechanize;
[17:00] <sacarlson> zevonja: pragmaticenigma: that sounds like a good idea to me,  try the alternate cd or even the minimal cd to install
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> can anyone please remind me of the move command to make windows boot first in grub2, something about the scripts in /etc/grub.d    thanks
[17:00] <pragmaticenigma> Luca: I would suggest going to the developers site where you downloaded the source code from for assistance
[17:01] <Luca> pragmaticenigma I have made it
[17:01] <Luca> and I 've installed all modules required but it still give errors
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> Luca: This is from a program that you wrote, and your trying to compile?
[17:02] <Luca> pragmaticenigma: yes on other server with ubuntu it worked perfectly
[17:02] <Luca> but in this, after installed the modules, it give me this erros
[17:03] <Luca> its ubuntu 8
[17:03] <Zeratul2k> finally!
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Luca: 8.04 or 8.10   there is no ubuntu 8
[17:03] <m4rtin> hi all: got a serious mess going on here. I have an encrypted root FS (sda5) and (I guess) the boot partition at sda1 (ext2). grub tells me it can't find the disk on reboot. I booted into recovery mode. Mounted the encrypted FS as root. Then mounted /boot over the top of /boot and ran update-grub. It seemed to find all kernels. On reboot, grub says can't find disk :(
[17:04] <Luca> Dedicated IP Addresses: 4 (included)
[17:04] <Luca> Operating System: Ubuntu 8.x
[17:04] <pragmaticenigma> oops
[17:04] <Zeratul2k> i hate it when i'm forced to register just to ask one question...
[17:04] <ooio> hi, what's the genitiv plural of library? library's or librarie's? (context: the librar(ie|y)'s usecase)
[17:04] <m4rtin> if anybody has any ideas, I'd be so gratefuk
[17:04] <shubbar> my kindle dx disconnect every time i try to transfer files to it... it disappears. Yet, it works on windows!
[17:04] <m4rtin> *grateful
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Luca: again, it doesn't exist. There were TWO releases in 2008, Hardy and iNTREPID. wHICH IS YOURS
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> sorry for caps
[17:05] <Luca> How can I know this? It's virtual server with Ssh
[17:05] <LucyIntheSky> ActionParsnip, I cant login when I try to use security = user even with correct pass ...
[17:05] <Zeratul2k> anyway, i'm the guy with the "screen dimming after random times even when plugged in and brightness keys not working" guy. Found nothing int he BIOS as someone suggested
[17:05] <Luca> with access with*
[17:05] <ooio> luca, uname -r
[17:05] <pragmaticenigma> ooio: If it is multiple libraries you would use " libraries' "
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Luca: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d    please