[12:12] <zam> claudio_: you need to install codecs win32 codecs ffmpg etc ....
[12:12] <VanessaE> intel: did you find anything else that looked like it could be the nvidia.ko module?
[12:12] <claudio_> zam xmms works
[12:12] <Sanne> LjL: I don't like the backticks, because they are in such an obscure location on my keyboard. ;)
[12:12] <intelikey> i can modprobe nvidia_agp   and it is now inserted  but that didn't change the error on startx
[12:13] <VanessaE> intel: naw, it has to be nvidia
[12:13] <VanessaE> nvidia_agp I think is their equiv of agpgart
[12:13] <slow_motion> how to install file transfer plug in in kopete???
[12:13] <VanessaE> if all else fails, do what I did; grab the driver from nvidia.com and install it the 'normal' way :)
[12:13] <intelikey> agpgart is using nvidia-agp  so yes probably
[12:14] <intelikey> VanessaE what about  /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-23-386/nvidia/nvidia.mod.o ?
[12:14] <VanessaE> nope, that's a kernel 2.4 module
[12:14] <VanessaE> (or a piece of unlinked code)
[12:14] <VanessaE> (wtf is that doing in a 2.6.* tree?)
[12:14] <axel> !sylpheed
[12:14] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 551 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[12:15] <intelikey> ok i'll modprobe
[12:15] <intelikey> nope...
[12:16] <VanessaE> hm
[12:16] <VanessaE> dapper right?
[12:16] <intelikey> right
[12:16] <VanessaE> I wonder if..  thought I saw something about an alternative name for that package..
[12:16] <LjL> Sanne: they aren't even *there* on my keyboard... except the keyboard layout i use is actually different from what's printed on the keyboard ;)
[12:18] <VanessaE> hm, maybe not.
[12:18] <intelikey> i followed the wiki except for one point in the prerequsites.   it said "you need 3d acceleration"  i don't but thought i'd install the driver anyway.
[12:19] <VanessaE> strange, that *should* work.
[12:19] <intelikey> hehhe
[12:19] <intelikey> yeah
[12:19] <VanessaE> well
[12:20] <VanessaE> only thing I can think of is if the restricted-modules package didn't actually supply the nvidia driver (or all of it)
[12:20] <VanessaE> are you opposed to using the 'official' nvidia package?
[12:20] <intelikey> not really.   just wanted to see if all the "whining" about the wiki was valid or not...
[12:21] <intelikey> it is.
[12:21] <VanessaE> hm
[12:21] <VanessaE> Not sure if what I'm looking at is the one you're talking about, but this one does get kinda convoluted.
[12:22] <intelikey> !ati
[12:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:22] <intelikey> that link  ^
[12:22] <Sanne> LjL: heh :) In any case, I welcome their deprecation (is that a word?).
[12:22] <VanessaE> oh, nope, I'm seeing a different one (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper)
[12:22] <cipher> !adept crash
[12:22] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[12:22] <hans> Mahlzeit!
[12:22] <LjL> Sanne: think so :)
[12:22] <cipher> my adept crash.. how to repair?
[12:23] <hans> apt-get -f install
[12:23] <claudio_> I need skype
[12:23] <axel> !frostwire
[12:23] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:24] <claudio_> !skype
[12:24] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:24] <hans> apt-get install skype; if not possible, activate the universe repositories in your sources.list...
[12:24] <VanessaE> hm...frostwire?  *bite*
[12:25] <VanessaE> looks like a direct clone of limewire...I like :)
[12:25] <axel> frostwire works hard on linux same as limewire
[12:25] <claudio_> how can I enable universe repositoers?
[12:26] <LjL> !universe
[12:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:26] <claudio_> where is the file that I must edit?
[12:26] <LjL> it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <VanessaE> claudio_, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <slow_motion> how to install file transfer plug in in kopete??? please can somebody help me??
[12:26] <intelikey> claudio_ /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <arepie> does anybody knows how to check my PCI bus is?
[12:27] <arepie> *is
[12:27] <arepie> *id
[12:28] <intelikey> claudio_ sed 's/main*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list          :)
[12:28] <VanessaE> aww it's still java...well at least it runs :)
[12:28] <VanessaE> arpie: busid's can be found with lspci
[12:28] <VanessaE> the first column in the listing shows the busid for eash device.
[12:28] <VanessaE> each
[12:28] <intelikey> lshw
[12:28] <claudio_> intelikey: what I must modify in sources.list?
[12:29] <intelikey> claudio_ sed 's/main*/main restricted universe multiverse/g'
[12:29] <claudio_> ?
[12:29] <claudio_> what is?
[12:29] <intelikey> all lines with main*      to    main restricted universe multiverse       where * == anything.
[12:30] <LjL> intelikey: should be "s/main.*/etc/g", but anyway :P
[12:30] <excitatory> when ripping cds on linux, how do you all handle the pregaps since cdparanoia doesn't support pregap detection?
[12:31] <LjL> intelikey: "*" alone just means "the previous character, repeated zero or more times". so that expression actually matches "mai" (not "main"), followed by whatever
[12:31] <intelikey> LjL no   don't change main to etc
[12:31] <LjL> intelikey: err, no, i simply wrote "etc" to avoid rewriting the second part
[12:31] <intelikey> oh ok
[12:31] <intelikey> yeah
[12:31] <claudio_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/3O5zk211.html
[12:31] <intelikey> .*
[12:33] <intelikey> LjL and that's kinda convoluted in it's own rite.    sed should have used * where . is   or something....
[12:33] <claudio_> have you seen?
[12:33] <claudio_> have you seen?
[12:34] <tony_> whats the best Html,css,php ..etc IDE for linux ?
[12:34] <tony_> even commercial one
[12:36] <VanessaE> claudio_, See those two lines (27,28) that are commented out?
[12:36] <VanessaE> uncomment them.
[12:36] <LjL> intelikey: well, that's standard regular expressions... "." indicates "any character", and "*" indicates "the previous character repeated zero or more times" ("+" indicates "the previous char, one or more times")
[12:36] <zam> can any one help with this erorr pleases "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: divxc32.dll"    ?
[12:36] <LjL> intelikey: actually, you can just scrap the whole * stuff and just write s/main/whatever, since it's implied that "main" can be preceeded and followed by anything
[12:36] <Sanne> tony_: 'best' is a matter of taste... some like quanta, some like bluefish, some just use a text editor with syntax highlighting.
[12:37] <zam> CVirus: you are here man
[12:37] <VanessaE> ..and some use a text editor *without* syntax highlighting ;)
[12:37] <tony_> well, im not into text editor. im not very well verse with php and stuff. but didn't l ike blue fish ..
[12:37] <LjL> i use cat
[12:37] <CVirus> zam: yes ?
[12:37] <Sanne> VanessaE: really? How could they live throught that? ;)
[12:37] <claudio_> VanessaE: yes
[12:38] <VanessaE> sanne: very carefully, and by staying about 10 years behind current web trends :)
[12:38] <Sanne> VanessaE: lol ;)
[12:38] <tony_> dose Quanta PHP ..
[12:38] <zamaliphe> CVirus: i have install kubuntu but i cant run any video fills
[12:38] <VanessaE> claudio_, remove the leading "#" from those two lines, re-save, and then do a  sudo apt-get update
[12:38] <VanessaE> whatever it is you're looking for in multiverse should then become available.
[12:39] <CVirus> !restricted formats
[12:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:39] <CVirus> zamaliphe: ^
[12:39] <CVirus> zamaliphe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:39] <zamaliphe> CVirus: yes i guess
[12:39] <draik_> Where do I find/get the special characters... characters with accents and such
[12:39] <Sanne> tony_: I heard good things about quanta, try it out, it should be apt-gettable. I think you should learn those languages, though, if you plan to use them.
[12:39] <VanessaE> my husband uses quanta, it seems to work ok for him
[12:39] <tony_> zamaliphe::: the best audio /video player that i found for both linux and window , is VLC.. is avalible trough adept
[12:40] <zamaliphe> tony_: i like kaffeine
[12:40] <LjL> intelikey: or even... you could make that sed "s/deb(.*)main.*/deb\1main restricted universe multiverse/" (didn't test)
[12:40] <draik> such as a' e' i' o' u' n~ and such
[12:40] <VanessaE> xine works ok for me (but I had to roll my own, default build doesn't support win32codecs)
[12:40] <VanessaE> (or dvdcss)
[12:40] <tony_> kaffeine wont play all format ..unless you have to install codec.. but VLC dose that very easy
[12:41] <LjL> intelikey: that should avoid modifying commented lines (and the word "main" appears in some of the standard Ubuntu sources.list), as well as avoid repeating the "restricted universe multiverse" stuff in lines that already have it
[12:41] <claudio_> VanessaE: i done
[12:41] <claudio_> but nothing
[12:41] <excitatory> tony_: also look into nvu .. similar to dreamweaver in many ways, but more simple and cleaner..   slightly less powerful, but still nice.
[12:41] <VanessaE> claudio: what exactly did you do and got nothing from?
[12:42] <tony_> yes.. i think NVU is nice.. i have to read more about it though..
[12:42] <claudio_> I uncommented those two lines
[12:42] <claudio_> i saved
[12:42] <claudio_> apt-get update
[12:42] <VanessaE> ok, good
[12:42] <claudio_> apt-get install skype
[12:42] <VanessaE> ok
[12:42] <VanessaE> I didn't catch that before - last I knew skype was not in the repositories.
[12:42] <VanessaE> you have to go to the website and download the .deb from them and use dpkg to install it
[12:43] <VanessaE> has that changed?
[12:44] <claudio_> VanessaE: wrote: apt-get install upgrade
[12:47] <VanessaE> that's not how it's done
[12:47] <VanessaE> that command would try to find a program called 'upgrade' and install it :)
[12:48] <claudio_> VanessaE: and now?
[12:48] <claudio_> I done
[12:48] <VanessaE> well since you want skype, you have to go to skype.com and locate the debian (or ubuntu?) package and download it
[12:49] <alejandro> uhmmm, how can I know if I'm running xorg? =/
[12:49] <claudio_> doen't matter that I installed updrade?
[12:49] <VanessaE> alejandro, you're running xorg. :)
[12:49] <VanessaE> (ubuntu doens't use xf86)
[12:49] <alejandro> hehe, yeah, but I installed xgl and I have no clue if it's working
[12:49] <VanessaE> claudio: nope, doesn't matter - that should have errored out
[12:49] <alejandro> or xgl is part of xorg?
[12:49] <alejandro> (i have no idea about it)
[12:50] <VanessaE> eh, don't know about xgl :)
[12:50] <intelikey> ok.  i'm back.
[12:50] <VanessaE> wb intel.  any luck with nvidia?
[12:50] <intelikey> i think i will try this   http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html    from method two on the page you mentioned VanessaE
[12:51] <VanessaE> claudio: go here:   http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/      and download the "Debian package (9.6 MB)"
[12:51] <ja> Hi folks. I'm trying to follow the instructions here http://swem.wm.edu/blogs/waynegraham/index.cfm/2006/8/17/Improving-Ubuntu-GUI-Resposiveness
[12:52] <pointwood> has it been decided when edgy eft is going to be released other than something this month?
[12:52] <snook353> i made a deb with alien.  where should i put it?  where are the rest of the debs?
[12:52] <intelikey> i'm on dialup so things can get bogged down if i'm dl'ing  anything.      it takes all my band-narrowness
[12:52] <VanessaE> intel: that's how I do it
[12:52] <ja> but the command "sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino" doesn't work. Should this not be in the repository?
[12:52] <VanessaE> intel: a friend of mine calls it "bandnarrowth" :)
[12:52] <BonBonTheJon> snook353: do 'sudo dpkg -i package'
[12:52] <snook353> ok, thanks again bonbonthejon
[12:52] <VanessaE> pointwood, think someone said 26 Oct.
[12:53] <pointwood> okay, thanks
[12:53] <intelikey> :)
[12:53] <LjL> well, that's what the schedule says
[12:53] <VanessaE> snook: after you install the package as BonBon showed, feel free to store the .deb wherever you like
[12:53] <pointwood> :)
[12:54] <VanessaE> (I use /data/Software as a semi-permanent archive)
[12:54] <snook353> ok, thanks.  i was gonna ask.  i remember to save it.  vanessae
[12:54] <intelikey> you dsl/cable/wireless guys have bandwidth   us dialupers have only bandnarrowness
[12:54] <VanessaE> heh...  compared to what I've heard others say about dsl...mine can be called bandnarrowth also :-/
[12:55] <Sanne> ja: modprobe means you're about to load a kernel module (driver). Are you sure you have the corresponding hardware?
[12:55] <VanessaE> (3 Mbps is beginning to look pretty slow compared to the 15 Mbps that's available here now)
[12:55] <intelikey> pointwood i do a dist-upgrade about two times a week...
[12:55] <pointwood> intelikey: well, I meant upgrading from dapper to eft :)
[12:56] <pointwood> are you doing that two times a week? :)
[12:56] <intelikey> yeah  but just remember 56k VanessaE and you will feel like your 3m fly's
[12:56] <VanessaE> oh I remember alright :)
[12:56] <VanessaE> I remember my 300 bps days a little too well..
[12:57] <pointwood> I'm still waiting for fiber :(
[12:57] <intelikey> pointwood no.    but i did coin the phrase.  reload twice a week whether you need to or not.... :)
[12:57] <pointwood> should get it before christmas though
[12:57] <pointwood> 10/10Mbit should be possible to live with for some time :)
[12:57] <BonBonTheJon> pointwood: what benefit is there to dist-upgrade compared to just upgrade
[12:58] <ja> Sanne: I'm not 100% sure, but my bios does have a CPU scaling option.
[12:58] <VanessaE> dist-upgrade occasionally picks up program updates that just 'update' misses
[12:58] <VanessaE> er
[12:58] <VanessaE> s/update/upgrade/
[12:59] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon venella upgrade doesn't update the system files  dist-upgrade does.
[01:00] <intelikey> i thought i saw a fowlduck
[01:01] <Sanne> ja: hmmm... well, firstly, I would make really sure those commands won't affect my system negatively, but maybe you did that already. As for the modprobe, if the module is not found, that means it isn't compiled and available for your kernel, or it is available but not installed by default.
[01:02] <snook353> stardict without gnome won't run in KDE :(  i Luv stardict :(
[01:02] <ja> Sanne: okay, thanks. Maybe I'll leave it. I'm just happy to have removed powernowd because my system was performing poorly with it.
[01:03] <Sanne> ja: ok, sorry I can't help more... I'm just a voice of caution, usually ;)
[01:04] <ja> Sanne: Well, it was helpful caution :) thank you.
[01:04] <Sanne> ja: heh, you're welcome
[01:09] <khirr> ello
[01:09] <khirr> what is the version of opera that i should use?
[01:09] <MotorCityMadMan> hello: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. is there a fix ?
[01:09] <khirr> kubuntu 6.06 AMD64
[01:10] <gnomefreak> kn9
[01:10] <gnomefreak> khirr: 9.xx
[01:10] <intelikey> hehhe on second thought i do have something against using the nvidia drivers....   namely the license !
[01:10] <khirr> but, i downloaded ubuntu version, but i cant install
[01:10] <gnomefreak> !opera
[01:10] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:10] <khirr> what's the way to install?
[01:10] <felixjet> can someone help me with the sound plz? dont works :(
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ^^^ khirr
[01:11] <intelikey> well looks like i wont use nvidia after all.
[01:11] <khirr> :'(
[01:11] <MotorCityMadMan> !flashplayer
[01:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <khirr> :O
[01:11] <gnomefreak> khirr: its simple all you have to do is open add/remove and choose show commericial apps
[01:11] <intelikey> khirr   --display
[01:12] <gnomefreak> than pick it and install it
[01:12] <felixjet> i dont have sound but, on system config -> sound. when i click on the button to "test sound" i heard it. but i can heard anything from apps
[01:12] <khirr> i'm reading, thanks
[01:12] <gnomefreak> intelikey: good luck with 3d accel i even think intel drivers are non-free
[01:12] <intelikey> gnomefreak i don't do 3d anyway
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[01:13] <intelikey> so it's not like i'll miss it.
[01:13] <intelikey> in face i seldom do X
[01:13] <intelikey> s/face/fact/
[01:13] <intelikey> face the fact    :)
[01:13] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:16] <Sanne> khirr: if you're on AMD64, you won't find Opera in the repositories. Proprietary software mostly isn't available yet for 64bit systems. But in this forum thread there's some help for getting 32bit programs installed on 64bit systems, including help for Opera: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[01:17] <alain> anyone knows about artsd, it does not work for me
[01:17] <gnomefreak> Sanne: chroot will do it
[01:17] <alain> i get a cpu overload error
[01:17] <RobNYC_> Edgy is so nice
[01:17] <gnomefreak> its alot of work its easier to install 32bit :)
[01:17] <Sanne> gnomefreak: well, I managed to avoid a chroot so far for my 32bit apps.
[01:18] <gnomefreak> Sanne: good job ;)
[01:18] <gnomefreak> alain: dapper?
[01:18] <Sanne> gnomefreak: not really, I just followed instructions. The actual work was finding those instructions ;)
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ah
[01:18] <alain> gnomefreak no, edgy
[01:19] <alain> in dapper it worked
[01:19] <gnomefreak> alain: i think its a known issue im waiting on them to give me backtrace of arts
[01:19] <khirr> in opera web site, should i download ubuntu version or debian version?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> alain: you see it using amarok?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> khirr: ubuntu
[01:19] <alain> so you also have this issue?
[01:19] <khirr> thanks
[01:19] <gnomefreak> alain: nope :)
[01:20] <Sanne> khirr: did you read what I wrote?
[01:20] <khirr> yep
[01:20] <khirr> but...
[01:20] <gnomefreak> alain: i dont have issues if i do i fix them in a day or two :)
[01:20] <khirr> repository doesnt foond
[01:20] <khirr> found
[01:20] <gnomefreak> khirr: are you on 64bit
[01:20] <khirr> yep
[01:20] <gnomefreak> khirr: you cant install opera nomrally
[01:20] <gnomefreak> khirr: please read what users type to you
[01:22] <khirr> :O, i didnt see that
[01:22] <khirr> thanks Sanne
[01:22] <Sanne> khirr: I think, this thread details the problems and possible solutions, I think: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75940
[01:22] <khirr> i'll read now, thanks
[01:22] <alain> gnomefreak if i leave in the sound system settings the 'select audio device' to autodetect, my system stops responding shortly and then I get a cpu overload error, no audio works
[01:23] <Sanne> khirr: you're welcome, good luck :)
[01:23] <alain> if I manually select open sound system, everything works
[01:23] <gnomefreak> alain: hmmmmmmm
[01:23] <alain> appearently it can't correctly detect...
[01:24] <alain> as I said in 6.06 it worked, and in ubuntu it works too
[01:24] <alain> so I would say its a bug in artsd
[01:26] <intelikey> ah i see new updates for   cpio openssl python2.4
[01:27] <alain> gnomefreak known bug or shall I file one
[01:27] <gnomefreak> alain: file one with all the ifo you can
[01:27] <gnomefreak> info
[01:28] <intelikey> !bug
[01:28] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[01:28] <alain> ...can't find artsd package in the bugtracker... where do i put it?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> alain: i wanna say kdelibs but im not sure ont hat
[01:29] <gnomefreak> alain: you can pick i dont know ;)
[01:30] <alain> ok :)
[01:31] <khirr> OPERA RUNNNN
[01:31] <khirr> :D
[01:32] <Sanne> khirr: did you pick the static deb? (I just read through the thread and the opera download options)
[01:32] <khirr> :)
[01:33] <khirr> now, is time to change opera to spanish version :D
[01:33] <Sanne> khirr: I take that as a yes ;) So I know what to do if I should need Opera one day, thanks.
[01:33] <khirr> i've puted this line
[01:33] <khirr> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture packagename_i386.deb
[01:34] <Sanne> khirr: ah, I see, thanks, same as I did with wine.
[01:34] <felixjet> why i cant dl alsa? apt-get autogets alsa-base instead of alsa
[01:35] <Sanne> felixjet: there's no package called 'alsa', I think
[01:36] <khirr> i've seen lots screenshots, and i liked so mucho icons, where can i find icons as them?
[01:36] <khirr> and other question should be, how run exe files on Kubuntu :D
[01:36] <Sanne> khirr: you mean icons for KDE?
[01:37] <khirr> yep
[01:37] <Sanne> felixjet: to see all packages beginning with alsa, type: apt-cache search alsa | grep ^alsa
[01:37] <Sanne> khirr: you can search in the repositories (dunno if there are some), and also look on kde-look.org
[01:38] <khirr> i'll check the page
[01:38] <khirr> with my opera browser :D
[01:38] <Sanne> :)
[01:39] <Sanne> khirr: oh, there are some kde icon packages in universe
[01:39] <Sanne> khirr: look: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kde-icons&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[01:39] <khirr> i'm cheking
[01:39] <khirr> :D
[01:40] <Sanne> :)
[01:41] <khirr> where can i see my kde version?
[01:41] <Sanne> khirr: usually in every kde program, under help/about kde
[01:41] <khirr> okp
[01:44] <khirr> uhmm
[01:44] <khirr> other question
[01:44] <khirr> :D
[01:44] <khirr> how can i run exe files on kubuntu?
[01:44] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: do you mean windows exe files?
[01:44] <Sanne> khirr: you mean as in windows exe files?
[01:45] <Sanne> BonBonTheJon: lol
[01:45] <BonBonTheJon> Sanne: great minds think alike
[01:45] <Sanne> BonBonTheJon: exactly ;)
[01:45] <khirr> yes
[01:45] <khirr> i went to the bathroom :D
[01:45] <khirr> yep
[01:46] <khirr> run windows exe files
[01:46] <Solveneq> so my OpenOffice.org decided to die... what do I do?
[01:46] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: you either need to set up wine, or set up a virtual machine
[01:46] <alain> you need wine
[01:46] <BonBonTheJon> khirr:
[01:46] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: what are you trying to run
[01:46] <khirr> Macromedia Flash
[01:46] <khirr> i wanna programin here, but forget Linux
[01:47] <alain> use the linux version
[01:47] <khirr> maybe winamp
[01:47] <khirr> but, always there are ptograms.exe that i'd like run
[01:47] <khirr> can i do it?
[01:47] <Sanne> khirr: wine is also not available for amd64. You need to download the i386 deb manually and install it with --force-architecture also. It's in the first forum thread I mentioned.
[01:47] <n8k99> khirr: under wine
[01:48] <khirr> but, with that, can i run exes?
[01:48] <Sanne> khirr: yes, wine is a compatibility layer between linux and the windows api. Some programs work. I heard that Macromedia Flash works ok.
[01:49] <BonBonTheJon> !wine
[01:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:49] <khirr> i'll check
[01:49] <khirr> :D
[01:49] <alain> how do I copy from KInfocenter
[01:49] <Sanne> khirr: also here, I did the manual install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[01:49] <m4x1mum> ooh so you can install software even if the architecture is different
[01:50] <khirr> nice! , for AMD64 :D
[01:50] <m4x1mum> im thinking of reinstalling linux with amd64 version
[01:50] <khirr> run good this Linux Version
[01:50] <khirr> y think, better that SuSe
[01:50] <khirr> ;)
[01:51] <m4x1mum> is the performance really different between amd64 and i386 versions?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: 64Bit OS's still have some issues.  It's best to stick with 32Bit a while longer
[01:52] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: You really don't get the full effect out of a 64Bit system unless you utilize 4GB or more of RAM and do heavy calculations and compiling and stuff like that
[01:52] <m4x1mum> ooh ok
[01:52] <billytwowilly> the only issues I've found with 64 bit is that the proprietary vendors are jerks and aren't releasing stuff for that architecture.. ie flash.
[01:53] <Hawkwind> No flash for 64bit, though no newer flash than version 7 for Linux anyways until after the first of the year when they release version 9 for Linux
[01:53] <flavioribeiro> the best thing to do is install 32bits
[01:53] <flavioribeiro> :T
[01:53] <m4x1mum> i thought amd64 version is stilll 32bit OS but compiled especially for amd64 processor, like optimize the compilation
[01:53] <billytwowilly> no. it's 64 bit...
[01:54] <KrAmMeR> has anyone install pysoulseek on their machine?
[01:55] <m4x1mum> oooww that sucks
[01:56] <Sanne> m4x1mum: If you don't mind some tinkering, install 64bit, because the more people run it, the sooner support will be better. If you want it to work out of the box mostly, you might get annoyed by 64bit, though.
[01:56] <m4x1mum> ooooh no i dont want to tinker stuff, im a newbie with linux, this is the 5th day for me to use linux :)
[01:57] <Sanne> m4x1mum: oh! Then I recommend staying a little while with 32bit, and consider switching when you are more comfortable.
[01:58] <Sanne> m4x1mum: and welcome to Linux :)
[01:58] <m4x1mum> hehe thanks!
[01:59] <m4x1mum> im still configuring my system to be as good as my windows, i havent been able to share the files with windows network yet, although the windows pc can see my shared folder but cannot access it :(
[02:00] <m4x1mum> and the configuration is very annoying!! i always need to resize to see the administrator mode button
[02:00] <BonBonTheJon> m4x1mum: you need to do something like this http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/manual4/sambausers.html
[02:01] <khirr> how can install one.deb
[02:01] <khirr> what is the command?
[02:01] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: dpkg -i package
[02:01] <khirr> thanks
[02:01] <Hawkwind> khirr: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:02] <m4x1mum> is it possible to let them access without having to login?, i mean i just want to share within the network only not outside the network
[02:02] <khirr> installing :D
[02:03] <BonBonTheJon> m4x1mum: its good to have some security
[02:03] <BonBonTheJon> m4x1mum: but look at http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html
[02:05] <Sanne> m4x1mum: there's also a section on samba under Kmenu/Help/Ubuntu Server Guide.
[02:05] <BonBonTheJon> !swat
[02:05] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:07] <khirr> i'm trying run wine
[02:07] <khirr> but i cant open
[02:08] <m4x1mum> oooh i want wineX :( but you have to pay
[02:08] <khirr> how could i open one program?
[02:08] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[02:08] <khirr> ty
[02:09] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: wine programname.exe
[02:09] <Hawkwind> khirr: There is also #WineHQ here on Freenode where the guys hang out that know wine very well
[02:10] <khirr> tanks
[02:11] <yonkeltron> will firefox2 be in edgy?
[02:11] <LjL> guess so, since the beta is in there
[02:11] <LjL> !edgy
[02:11] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:12] <yonkeltron> !schedule
[02:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:12] <yonkeltron> got that
[02:12] <yonkeltron> LjL: neat
[02:12] <hazard_> *test*
[02:12] <LjL> we read you
[02:12] <hazard_> Is there a livecd for kubuntu? One that isn't 688mb?
[02:13] <hazard_> Thanks LjL!
[02:13] <LjL> uhm no, the Desktop CD is the only Live CD there is afaik
[02:13] <hazard_> ...nuts.
[02:13] <nick01> hi Hawkwind :)
[02:13] <LjL> what's the problem? i think most CDs today can take 688megs...
[02:14] <hazard_> Not ones which hold 650.
[02:14] <LjL> didn't even think they sold those anymore... you could still try overburning though i suppose
[02:14] <hazard_> Which for some silly reason...I have far far far to many of.
[02:14] <yonkeltron> hazard_: interesting
[02:14] <khirr> i've read that wine resulte
[02:14] <khirr> but say that couldnt create register
[02:14] <VanessaE> most 80 min. CD's will take roughly 702 MB (about 736 million bytes) actually...
[02:14] <yonkeltron> hazard_: write the iso to an HDD
[02:15] <nick01> Hawkwind: I just installed mandriva 2007 yesterday and I searched for easy urpmi- found your webpage saying u defected to kubuntu - why did u do that ?
[02:15] <khirr> insufficient resources for operation
[02:15] <Search4Lancer> okay.... I'm having trouble copying files into a folder on an external hard drive... any ideas?
[02:15] <LjL> hazard_: yeah, save to HD and install through VMWare or something, perhaps
[02:15] <hazard_> So the installer CD is the same as the livecd right?
[02:15] <LjL> hazard_: yeah, though there's also another "Alternate" CD which only contains a (text-mode) installer and is not "live". that might be smaller
[02:15] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: trouble?
[02:15] <VanessaE> however, if you want to burn a 'smaller' disc, it's probably not hard...  just delete some excess packages from within the ISO file until the size is what you can deal with.
[02:15] <hazard_> I don't think it is.
[02:16] <khirr> ello
[02:16] <khirr> insufficient resources for operation say wine when i wanna execute
[02:16] <hazard_> I think that's what I'll try, of course, knowing me, it won't be bootable anymore.
[02:16] <hazard_> Oh well, I'll figure it out.
[02:16] <khirr> one program.exe, and say that cant create register
[02:16] <Search4Lancer> yonkeltron: yes... keeps telling me I don't have permission to, yet every time I check, the permissions are set so that the owner (same username I'm logged in as) has permission to read and write
[02:16] <Hawkwind> nick01: The addmedia pages are back up as of today in fact
[02:16] <Hawkwind> nick01: But yes, I don't run Mandriva anymore, except in a vmware install only
[02:17] <LjL> VanessaE: well, not necessarily *that* easy, since most of the .debs aren't actually to be found as plain .debs on the CD
[02:17] <VanessaE> they're not?
[02:17] <VanessaE> oh. :)
[02:17] <Search4Lancer> ah, it's decided to work now...
[02:17] <khirr> say
[02:18] <hazard_> what?
[02:18] <khirr> Make sure that your X server is runing
[02:18] <LjL> VanessaE: no, most of the stuff is in a squashfs file i think...
[02:18] <khirr> what is the X server?
[02:18] <VanessaE> ohhh
[02:18] <snook353> YeeHaw!  configin dict
[02:18] <hazard_> A hole of death and dispair (or the system to display the GUI)
[02:18] <VanessaE> well hell. :)
[02:18] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: pop open a terminal and tell me when ready
[02:18] <nick01> Hawkwind: so mandriva disapointed u in some way
[02:18] <nick01> |?
[02:19] <khirr> plz T_T
[02:19] <VanessaE> I seem to recall that it's possible to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list after you boot the CD, point it to an online repository or three, and then set up networking/internet access
[02:19] <Hawkwind> nick01: Absolutely.  But that's pretty offtopic here.  You could join my #LFD channel if you want to discuss it further
[02:19] <Search4Lancer> yonkeltron: it's decided to work now.... however, I'm about to restart the HD because it's still caught up in something imaginary (it's playing with itself) making file transfers slow as balls
[02:19] <VanessaE> could that squashfs bit be deleted entirely?
[02:19] <khirr> ello?
[02:20] <khirr> what is X server on wine?
[02:20] <LjL> VanessaE: i really don't think so... however, perhaps the Server CD could be a better bet
[02:20] <VanessaE> khirr: the "x server" is not a part of Wine.  it's a part of your base OS
[02:20] <hazard_> Yea, you could do that.
[02:20] <hazard_> I think.
[02:20] <LjL> VanessaE: i guess it's smaller than the Desktop or Alternate CD
[02:20] <hazard_> Server CD?
[02:20] <VanessaE> it's what we call xorg (formerly xfree86)
[02:20] <LjL> hazard_: yeah, ubuntu has a server version
[02:20] <khirr> so, how can run one exe file...is show that error
[02:20] <VanessaE> that's a good point, LjL
[02:20] <VanessaE> forgot about the server CD
[02:21] <hazard_> Ah, well, I usually use One of the debian base CDs, since I don't typically need a user interface.
[02:21] <hazard_> (horay for 40MB installer CDs!)
[02:21] <LjL> hazard_: the server cd would be sort of similar
[02:21] <VanessaE> khirr: can you post a complete copy of the errors you are getting onto pastebin?
[02:21] <VanessaE> (from one shell prompt to the next)
[02:21] <LjL> hazard_: yeah, i wouldn't mind Ubuntu having something akin to Debian's businesscard CD
[02:21] <khirr> where?
[02:22] <Search4Lancer> alright yonkeltron it's doing it again... fire away
[02:23] <LjL> hazard_: they say you can even upgrade from debian to ubuntu. if you're brave.
[02:23] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: chmod -R 777 /path/to/mounted/device
[02:23] <VanessaE> !pastebin
[02:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:23] <yonkeltron> LjL: you need to be very brave. very brave
[02:23] <VanessaE> khirr: use that ^^^^
[02:23] <hazard_> Or crazy.
[02:23] <hazard_> I'm plenty crazy.
[02:23] <LjL> guess so
[02:23] <yonkeltron> sure are
[02:23] <LjL> hazard_: anyway, really, what i'd try first would be the server CD
[02:23] <LjL> (or just buy a stupid 800mb CD :P)
[02:24] <hazard_> I'll see what the big cd's got on it, now that its almost done downloading.
[02:24] <LjL> well actually, if you don't mind wasting CDs, i'd try overburning one of your 650MB CDs first... you never know
[02:24] <Search4Lancer> yonkeltron: and this is gonna take what, 4 or 5 hours to finish?
[02:24] <hazard_> They're old RWs...
[02:24] <hazard_> which is why there's so many...
[02:25] <hazard_> since they don't really get 'used'
[02:25] <LjL> hm, then nevermind overburning i suppose
[02:26] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: no. should be nearly instant
[02:26] <Search4Lancer> and now it's stalled...
[02:26] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: stop the transfer while this is happening
[02:26] <Search4Lancer> yeah well it was going through changing the perms on every bloody file on the drive
[02:27] <Search4Lancer> and how am I supposed to do that?
[02:27] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: it's just changing the permissions! not checksumming each and every byte
[02:27] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: hit cancel or ctrl-c the process
[02:27] <yonkeltron> how are you transferring the files?
[02:28] <Search4Lancer> drag n drop, but I'm not transferring right now, and I don't know where you're getting a cancel button in a terminal window :-P
[02:29] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: nvm. then. i thought you had a running transfer with konqueror.
[02:29] <khirr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/
[02:29] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: i've chmod -R'd 56gb of data over a network and it didn't take more than 1.5 minutes
[02:30] <khirr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/
[02:30] <Search4Lancer> well in any case... I just tried chmodding the individual directory on the drive that I'm trying to transfer the files into, and it did do it quick, but it still isn't letting me move the files
[02:30] <darkghost> finaly i can play some video from 3 dayes just need to play real media on kaffeine ? how to do that ?
[02:31] <khirr> my wine error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/
[02:31] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: hmmmm
[02:31] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: what is the exact error?
[02:32] <khirr> plz (:(
[02:33] <VanessaE> ahh
[02:33] <VanessaE> stop running wine as root.
[02:33] <Search4Lancer> well before it was telling me down in the status bar "you can not drag files to a directory you don't have permissions in" or whatever, and now I'm trying it again and it doesn't do that but gives me a status box saying "could not write to /media/sdf1/elmusico/whatever.mp3"
[02:34] <VanessaE> never run programs as root unless you're doing some kind of admin work
[02:34] <snook353> anyone have any experience config
[02:34] <snook353> 'ing kdict?
[02:35] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: manging your music collection?
[02:35] <yonkeltron> i find that it's better to use rsync to keep your collection up to date
[02:35] <darkghost> what codec do i need to install so i can run real media on kaffeine
[02:35] <darkghost> what codec do i need to install so i can run real media on kaffeine ??
[02:36] <Search4Lancer> moving what music I had on my USB key to my external HD where the rest of it is... moved off the key onto a temp folder on the desktop, and now trying to move from there to extHD
[02:36] <yonkeltron> wierd
[02:36] <Search4Lancer> "you cannot drop any items into a directory in which you do not have write permission".... I do have write permission!
[02:37] <yonkeltron> hmmm
[02:37] <Search4Lancer> it says right there in the properties for the folder.... 'owner can view & modify content'
[02:37] <yonkeltron> try remounting the drive
[02:37] <yonkeltron> or transfer them not by drag and drop
[02:38] <khirr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/
[02:38] <VanessaE> khirr: stop running wine as root
[02:38] <VanessaE> khirr:  never run programs as root unless you're doing some kind of admin work
[02:38] <khirr> uhmm
[02:38] <VanessaE> that's why you get that error - root can't access your screen without special permission
[02:38] <khirr> ok, i'll live
[02:38] <Search4Lancer> remounting did the trick
[02:39] <yonkeltron> excellent
[02:39] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: i figure maybe hotplug just didn't do something correctly
[02:40] <khirr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26122/
[02:40] <khirr> VanessaE this is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26122/
[02:41] <VanessaE> ok that error I can't help with, except that you can ignore everything below line 7 (those last errors are caused by the initial 'resources' problem)
[02:42] <khirr> but
[02:42] <khirr> how can i solution that?
[02:46] <VanessaE> you running the 64 bit version?
[02:46] <VanessaE> (of kubuntu)
[02:47] <khirr>  yes
[02:47] <VanessaE> ok
[02:47] <khirr> I'm runing under Kubuntu 6.06 AMD64
[02:47] <VanessaE> that might be why, not sure win works in 64 bit
[02:47] <VanessaE> er, wine
[02:47] <khirr> (:(
[02:47] <khirr> omg
[02:48] <khirr> i've lots problem with AMD64
[02:48] <VanessaE> I have an AMD64 system also, but I stick to 32 bit because of probs like this
[02:48] <khirr> should i intall 32bits version?
[02:48] <VanessaE> yeah, stick to 32bit.
[02:48] <khirr> it fastest 32 bits version than 64 bits version?
[02:49] <Hawkwind> You're better off going with 32bit
[02:49] <Hawkwind> 64Bit still has some issues that probably won't be worked out for another year or so
[02:50] <VanessaE> AMD64 can be somewhat faster than 32bit, but like hawk said, AMD64 has issues yet.
[02:50] <khirr> i think, so i'll have to download 32 bits version
[02:51] <hansen> Hi. I'm missing "kinternet" on kubuntu. Is there a package available somewhere or maybe an alternative app that does the same? (I use it for wlan setup)
[02:52] <orient2000> what does kiternet does?
[02:52] <hansen> it allows you to: click tray icon, scan for wlan networks, choose network, type in passphrase => connected
[02:53] <hansen> I know I can do it thru the system settings, but that requires root access and more manual setup. I installed kubuntu on my wife's laptop, so it needs to be pretty easy :-)
[02:54] <orient2000> did you check adept?
[02:54] <hansen> yes, I searched for kinternet with adept, no results
[02:54] <VanessaE> maybe it was renamed?
[02:54] <hansen> I doubt it
[02:55] <orient2000> you have to check deskriptions the name of a program will be different
[02:56] <VanessaE> I see a reference here to something called Qinternet
[02:56] <VanessaE> would that work?
[02:56] <hansen> I'm totally new with (k)ubuntu (but have used suse for years and linux in general since 1994 or so), so I wondered how to get something like kinternet on kubuntu
[02:56] <hansen> hmm
[02:56] <hansen> never heard about
[02:56] <orient2000> check http://kde-apps.org you have it all there.
[02:56] <hansen> I'll check
[02:56] <BonBonTheJon> hansen: try looking into knetworkmanager
[02:58] <JacksLivr> evening all
[02:58] <JacksLivr> i am wanting to compile a kernel module. do i need the kernel-source or kernel-tree?
[02:59] <VanessaE> looks like that's a better idea (knetworkmanager)
[03:00] <hansen> BonBonTheJon: Thanks! I installed the knetworkmanager package and now there is a "wireless assistant" entry in the menu that does exactly what I want.
[03:00] <VanessaE> sigh
[03:00] <BonBonTheJon> VanessaE: we can share the credit
[03:01] <VanessaE> heh
[03:02] <hansen> VanessaE: qinternet would probably work too -- but it looks like a suse/novell invention. I want something that works on kubuntu out of the box, I'm getting to old and lazy to fiddle with such things :)
[03:03] <VanessaE> heh
[03:03] <VanessaE> I know the feeling
[03:03] <orient2000> I hope everyone knows this link http://kde-apps.org
[03:03] <warpzone> what are the kde-apps, random kde improvements?
[03:03] <VanessaE> I started my linux days with slackware (somewhere in the upper 6.x range I think)....now I want it to Just Work (tm) :)
[03:04] <larson9999> here's a silly question seems like i should be able to figure out: where's the wine config file these days?  i can't find one
[03:04] <BonBonTheJon> warpzone: there are tons of programs on kde-apps, some of which you can download with apt-get
[03:04] <VanessaE> larson: it's stored as a couple of .ini files within the "c drive" you assigned it to
[03:04] <VanessaE> or something like that
[03:05] <VanessaE> and you apparently decide where the C drive is by fiddling with symlinks in .wine/dosdevices/
[03:05] <larson9999> VanessaE, really? when did they change that?
[03:05] <Dark_Vampire> hi ppl
[03:06] <warpzone> BonBonTheJon: neat
[03:06] <VanessaE> Not sure when, but it sure confused me when I started fiddling with it on my husband's box yesterday
[03:06] <VanessaE> (trying to get M$ Pinball Arcade to run)
[03:06] <Dark_Vampire> any germans here?
[03:06] <arepie> how to share a file with windows network?? i've tried "system settings -> network & connectivity -> sharing" but when i enter admin password, it still block me to make changes.. any solution?
[03:06] <LjL> !de
[03:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:07] <VanessaE> (btw, I got it to run but I can't figure out what video mode it wants to run in, so all I can do is look at the main menu and exit out)
[03:07] <Dark_Vampire> thanks LjL
[03:07] <VanessaE> well, I'm of German descent, but that doesn't count... nein sprechense Deutsche :)
[03:08] <orient2000> no much support in german section. They di suse in Germany.
[03:08] <larson9999> VanessaE, must be .reg files as that's all that on the C drive
[03:08] <VanessaE> larson: *nod* that's another source of config data
[03:09] <VanessaE> I wonder then, when it creates the other files
[03:09] <VanessaE> probably when you actually "install" something
[03:11] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: in konqueror, right click on the folder you want to share, and there is a menu option to share
[03:12] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: thank you
[03:12] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: did that work?
[03:13] <larson9999> VanessaE, aha.  i'm trying to get the incredible machine to run for my son.  had it earlier with all but the dialog where you change the user name working great.  but now sound isn't working so i figured i'd check out the config file but they got rid of it on me
[03:13] <VanessaE> heh
[03:13] <VanessaE> did you try running winecfg?
[03:13] <BonBonTheJon> larson9999: doesn't that game work in dos?
[03:13] <VanessaE> they moved everything around
[03:14] <VanessaE> there's settings there for sound.
[03:14] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: didn't try it yet..
[03:14] <larson9999> BonBonTheJon, this version is for xp.
[03:15] <BonBonTheJon> larson9999: I had a really old version that was for dos, and I guess it could work with dosbox
[03:15] <BonBonTheJon> !dosbox
[03:15] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.63-2.1 (dapper), package size 371 kB, installed size 1028 kB
[03:16] <larson9999> VanessaE, yeah earlier i had to enable it and it worked fine.  the thing is that was on my machine to test.  so i'm setting up wine on my son's machine and am having the problem.
[03:16] <Dark_Vampire> well I'll try it her in english...  no answer in the german channel...  well i downloaded firefox(for linux) and opend the archive, on the site stands that i should run "firefox" in that...  there is a shell script named "firefox" and a "firefox-bin" in it... but nothing happens if i try to run it
[03:16] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: no, it didn't work
[03:16] <Dark_Vampire> have i to be logged in as root?
[03:17] <VanessaE> ah
[03:17] <larson9999> BonBonTheJon, yeah, i'm well aware of dosbox and dosemu.  been using both for what seems like decades.  but the version is better from a user standpoint anyway.  means a lot since i'm talking about my 5 year old.
[03:18] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: in control panel is there a samba option
[03:19] <larson9999> BonBonTheJon, by the way, if you want to use dosbox don't use the version ubotu suggests.  .65 is soooooo much better
[03:20] <Dark_Vampire> by the way: how may i connect to 2 servers at same time in konversation?
[03:20] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: btw, im using edgy
[03:20] <arepie> there's no control panel here
[03:20] <arepie> system settings perhaps
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: ok
[03:21] <arepie> !share
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <arepie> !sharing
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <hades_> Can someone point me to the FAQ on Grub that helps you restore it once Windows is installed?
[03:22] <BonBonTheJon> !samba
[03:22] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:22] <hades_> !grub
[03:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:22] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: yeah, try installing swat
[03:22] <arepie> swat? from adept?
[03:23] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: yeah, its a web front end to samba, so it might help you out
[03:23] <VanessaE> Swat is Your Friend (tm) :)
[03:24] <arepie> ok, im installing
[03:27] <marvin__> kubunto es
[03:28] <marvin__> como chateo en esp
[03:29] <VanessaE> !es
[03:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:32] <marvin__> tengo problemas para instalar dku-5
[03:32] <marvin__> en linux que hago
[03:33] <hansen> parse error...
[03:33] <VanessaE> (babelfish translation)   usted tiene que ensamblar uno de los canales antedichos para el espaol
[03:34] <marvin__> como hago
[03:34] <VanessaE> (babelfish translation)   hablamos solamente ingls aqu.
[03:36] <Hawkwind> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:36] <Hawkwind> Those speaking spanish should join #Ubuntu-ES
[03:36] <VanessaE> oy...trying to translate that back with babelfish results in some weird phrases :)
[03:36] <VanessaE> just trying to help the guy find his way there, hawk :)
[03:37] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: I know.  I thought maybe if it was said in plain english he might understand :P
[03:37] <VanessaE> oh ok :)
[03:37] <VanessaE> sorry, getting a little tired here... what should be obvious is hardly so.
[03:38] <rance> hey guys, I need a little help understanding adding printers to cups on a kubuntu/ubuntu server, the user/password admin bit never seems to work
[03:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell rance about cupsweb
[03:39] <JacksLivr> im trying to get the kernel source to compile a module. my uname says that I have 2.6.15-27-686, but my apt cache only has 2.4.27. kernel.org does not have that one to download.... HELP!?
[03:39] <VanessaE> eek
[03:39] <VanessaE> that can't be right
[03:40] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: apt-cache search linux-headers
[03:40] <VanessaE> look for linux-image
[03:40] <VanessaE> (and -headers)
[03:41] <JacksLivr> is headers all i need?
[03:41] <VanessaE> That reminds me...since I roll my own anyway, can I just uninstall all these past kernel images?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Should be
[03:41] <bimberi> JacksLivr: 'apt-cache search linux-source' although yes you should only need headers
[03:41] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: I'd leave at least 2 kernels installed at all times.  That way if something happens to the one you use all the time, you can boot to an older kernel
[03:41] <VanessaE> right
[03:42] <VanessaE> already have two such of my own.  Just wanted to get rid of the other 6 :)
[03:42] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: I hear ya.  I'm running 2.6.18 and have an older 2.6.17 installed just incase
[03:43] <VanessaE> ACK!
[03:43] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: after install swat, i can configure the sharing file from the system setting.. thanks..
[03:45] <VanessaE> ok, note to self...  the few megs of wasted space is not worth the effort to rip out the kernel out from under 50 other things that are marked as depends-on :)
[03:48] <JacksLivr> Error: Kernel source code is incomplete - drivers/md/dm.h not found.
[03:48] <JacksLivr> i must need more than just the headers
[03:51] <xwolf-> how do i set the DNS server i'll use?
[03:51] <VanessaE> edit /etc/resolv.conf
[03:52] <xwolf-> right. thank you.
[03:52] <VanessaE> generally add a line like "nameserver  a.b.c.d"
[03:52] <VanessaE> (e.g. nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> in the case of verizon)
[03:55] <JacksLivr> Error: Kernel source code is incomplete - drivers/md/dm.h not found.
[03:55] <JacksLivr> i must need more than just the headers
[03:55] <JacksLivr> what else do i need?
[03:55] <JacksLivr> im trying to get the kernel source to compile a module. my uname says that I have 2.6.15-27-686, but my apt cache only has 2.4.27. kernel.org does not have that one to download
[03:55] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Did you try linux-source ?
[03:55] <JacksLivr> its the wrong version
[03:55] <JacksLivr> if i try that it wants to install 2.4
[03:55] <JacksLivr> not 2.6
[03:56] <Hawkwind> linux-source-2.6.15 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches
[03:56] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: You must not have all the repos setup then
[03:56] <VanessaE> better you should roll your own (btw in my screen it shows 2.6.15 as being the only kernel-source pkg)
[03:56] <VanessaE> er, linux-source package.
[03:56] <Hawkwind> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[03:56] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-27.48 (dapper), package size 43670 kB, installed size 43812 kB
[03:56] <JacksLivr> i uncommented all the lines for the repos
[03:57] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: sudo apt-get update
[03:57] <JacksLivr> i did
[03:57] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Paste your sources.list to http://pastebin.ulteo.us for us to see
[03:57] <JacksLivr> k
[03:57] <JacksLivr> hang on
[03:57] <JacksLivr> thanks for helping
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Tis what we're here for :)
[04:00] <JacksLivr> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/152
[04:01] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Try changing every instance of us.archive.ubuntu.com to just archive.ubuntu.com and then do a sudo apt-get update again and then find the package
[04:02] <JacksLivr> k, doing now
[04:04] <VanessaE> hm...just got reminded to check my server for open ports, etc.  any idea what ports 820 and 875 are for?
[04:06] <darrellmarlow> when you are in the terminal and reading a man page; how do you get back to terminal?
[04:06] <VanessaE> usually q
[04:07] <darrellmarlow> cool thx
[04:09] <Dsbeerf> Hi, any special rep for kubuntu i found nothing for vlc and for xchat with apt-get
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Dsbeerf: Enable universe and multiverse
[04:10] <JacksLivr> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/153
[04:10] <Dsbeerf> how ? im kinda new on kubuntu i was a ubuntu user
[04:10] <JacksLivr> Hawkwind: i did what you suggested
[04:10] <Hawkwind> !repos > Dsbeerf
[04:10] <Dsbeerf> Thanks
[04:10] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Now install it.  It's listed there in that paste
[04:11] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[04:11] <waspius> anyone know how i can add smileys to kopete?
[04:11] <JacksLivr> so the us was throwing it off
[04:11] <waspius> the ones they send me?
[04:13] <waspius> hello anyone know how i can add the smileys they send me on kopete?
[04:14] <canen> waspius: in configure
[04:14] <Hawkwind> waspius: Please don't repeat yourself.  Patience and someone will help you when they know
[04:14] <canen> one sec i'll tell u where
[04:14] <waspius> Hawkwind: it was a mistake i went to ask it in another channel
[04:14] <VanessaE> ok here's one....where exactly do I configure portmap/nfsd to only listen to one specific interface?
[04:15] <matrix> hi, can i find recommendation which wlan pcmcia card to buy to work smoth with ubuntu?
[04:16] <canen> crap, i can't find it
[04:17] <MichaleR> CDC843
[04:18] <MichaleR> No wait, that wlan card ID is wrong
[04:18] <canen> waspius: it's in the protocol settings
[04:18] <canen> click on modify for the account
[04:19] <canen> in msn any way "MSN settings"
[04:20] <waspius> canen: ok thanx
[04:20] <MichaleR> wlan card:  CNET CWC-854  IDs as ra0 interface
[04:21] <MichaleR> good solid card, support right out of the box, available for ~$30USD
[04:21] <MichaleR> There are others, but that one is my current choice
[04:25] <flaccid> in firefox homepage:
[04:25] <flaccid> file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[04:25] <flaccid> why are the links to 'the difference' , 'longterm support' etc. not installed?
[04:25] <flaccid> which package has them
[04:25] <matrix> MichaleR: interesting never heard of this brand
[04:26] <matrix> is there a hardware listing for well supported wlan cards
[04:26] <ironfroggy> how do you properly dispose of a laptop battery?
[04:26] <matrix> so i can judge when i am in store tomorrow if one of the available cards is working
[04:26] <matrix> best would of course be if it even supports suspend
[04:27] <SperMite> what was it to print glxgears info?
[04:30] <VanessaE> -printfps perhaps?
[04:31] <SperMite> yeah thats it
[04:31] <SperMite> thank you
[04:31] <VanessaE> *nod*
[04:32] <VanessaE> that bugs me...I mean, I know it's not a valid benchmark, but it can at least tell you if GLX is working right
[04:32] <VanessaE> they should have left that option on by default.
[04:34] <bimberi> the option to switch it on used to be -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark   ! :)
[04:34] <waspius> does anyone know if xgl is supported by kubuntu and if it will run ok on a laptop at 2.8
[04:35] <VanessaE> *nod*
[04:35] <VanessaE> well, bbl, gotta go pick up hubby.
[04:35] <MichaleR> matrix: yes, I'm looking for the link
[04:35] <flaccid_> waspius: yes
[04:36] <flaccid_> how can i make gtk applications look more cleaner/like qt?
[04:37] <waspius> flaccid: will i find it with apt-get or do i need to download it from elsewhere?
[04:37] <flaccid_> !xgl > waspius
[04:37] <waspius> thanx
[04:38] <flaccid_> it can be a pain
[04:38] <flaccid_> its still experimental and not all that smooth
[04:38] <flaccid_> see how you go
[04:38] <flaccid_> use the #ubuntu-xgl channel
[04:38] <orient2000> did you guys get any updates in a last 24 hours?
[04:38] <orient2000> kubuntu
[04:38] <flaccid_> i didn't
[04:39] <flaccid_> don't think
[04:39] <flaccid_> maybe. i think there was in the last 48
[04:39] <orient2000> but not in last 24 hrs?
[04:40] <flaccid_> i can't confirm 100%
[04:41] <orient2000> ou will need to go download one of the
[04:41] <orient2000> archives:
[04:41] <orient2000>     j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip j2sdk-1_4_0-doc-ja.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-doc-ja.zip
[04:42] <orient2000> I am trying to get some doc file on jave and it get stoped on java.zip I can not run update because of it.
[04:42] <flaccid_> youtube for $1.6 bil by google
[04:42] <flaccid_> not bad
[04:43] <pacman> anyone have any experience with torcs
[04:43] <orient2000> it is not very user friendly.
[04:45] <cpk2> isnt torcs that car racing game?
[04:45] <pacman> yeah
[04:46] <pacman> it's telling me that it can't find libXrandr
[04:46] <flaccid_> gosh google 429 on nasdaq heh
[04:46] <pacman> but I have the newest versions of libxrandr2 and libxrandr-dev
[04:51] <pacman> hello?
[04:52] <flaccid_> hi
[04:53] <pacman> hey flaccid, weren't you the one who was helping me last night
[04:53] <flaccid> probably
[04:53] <pacman> I'm having a problem with torcs
[04:54] <flaccid> i can see
[04:54] <pacman> any suggestions?
[04:54] <flaccid> what package of torcs is installed
[04:54] <cpk2> i take it you used apt-get?
[04:54] <pacman> 1.2.4
[04:55] <pacman> I did apt-get last night, and all the game was was 4 wheels
[04:55] <pacman> no cars, no track, just 4 wheels and the background
[04:55] <pacman> oh, and brake lights
[04:55] <flaccid> please pastebin output from dpkg -l | grep -i torcs
[04:56] <pacman> root@pacman-desktop:/home/pacman/Desktop/torcs-1.2.4# dpkg -l | grep -i torcs
[04:56] <pacman> ii  torcs                                  1.2.4-1ubuntu7                          3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL
[04:56] <pacman> ii  torcs-data                             1.2.4-1                                 base data files for TORCS game
[04:56] <pacman> ii  torcs-data-cars                        1.2.4-1                                 data files for TORCS game - Cars set
[04:56] <pacman> ii  torcs-data-tracks                      1.2.4-1                                 data files for torcs game - Tracks set
[04:56] <JacksLivr> Hawkwind: i installed and extracted that source. I am building the module now. It is taking a while.
[04:56] <flaccid> !paste > pacman
[04:56] <JacksLivr> 45 minutes so far on a core duo
[04:56] <pacman> !paste
[04:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:56] <Hawkwind> pacman: Please don't paste to the channel
[04:56] <flaccid> ok thats what i have
[04:56] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Very kewl.  Glad you got it sorted
[04:56] <pacman> sorry
[04:57] <pacman> anyhow, so my buddy tells me to just download it from the torcs site
[04:57] <JacksLivr> thanks you man. im not sure i would have ever caught the us. at the beginning as being a problem
[04:57] <flaccid> i'd rather find out the problem
[04:57] <flaccid> pacman: now this dpkg -l | grep -i libxrandr2
[04:57] <flaccid> do you have <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu4
[04:58] <flaccid> for both libs?
[04:58] <ndc> hi every body,i have problem the (wmv) format cant open in
[04:59] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. You can add mirrors if you want to it, like I have se.archive.ubuntu.com to use the Swedish mirrors.  They work for me best even though I'm in the USA
[04:59] <orient2000> virus in it?
[04:59] <pacman> libxrandr2                             <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu4
[04:59] <flaccid> pacman: pastebin output from ls -l /usr/lib/libXrandr.*
[05:00] <felixjet> how can i change icons of my files ?
[05:01] <flaccid> felixjet: per extension?
[05:01] <orient2000> try to open sample wmv
[05:01] <felixjet> uhm
[05:01] <Hawkwind> felixjet: You can do it globally in kcontrol
[05:01] <pacman> uhm, how do I pastebin it?
[05:01] <Hawkwind> felixjet: Or you can right click in konqueror and set them there
[05:01] <felixjet> no have extensions
[05:01] <pacman> I don't know anything about IRC
[05:01] <Hawkwind> pacman: http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[05:01] <flaccid> !paste > pacman
[05:01] <felixjet> they are links
[05:01] <pacman> !paste > pacman
[05:02] <flaccid> paste it in the pastebin site and then copy the link and paste here
[05:02] <felixjet> to nets/apps
[05:02] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26127/
[05:02] <ndc> how to open sample wmv i tru with VLC and mplayer but still now i cant
[05:02] <cpk2> ndc: do you have w32codecs?
[05:03] <orient2000> sorry, can not help.
[05:03] <felixjet> how i do it in kcontrol Hawkwind ?
[05:03] <felixjet> nvm, thats for all files
[05:03] <felixjet> i just want a few
[05:03] <Hawkwind> felixjet: If they are links I don't know.  I don't really use KDE enough to know.  I just know for files/directories the ways I mentioned above
[05:03] <felixjet> how to do in konqueror?
[05:03] <Ashex> anyone know how to setup gpg keys in kmail?
[05:03] <felixjet> >.<
[05:03] <flaccid> pacman: that looks fine
[05:04] <Ashex> I want to setup pgp verifcation in kmail, but i'm having issues with it
[05:04] <flaccid> can you paste the exact error message please
[05:04] <Ashex> me?
[05:05] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26128/
[05:05] <orient2000> maybe you do not have a drivers for wmv. search for easyubuntu on google.ca install one at a time. be carefull.
[05:05] <flaccid> sorry i meant pac
[05:05] <felixjet> Hawkwind: maybe i can do it with scripting? any idea?
[05:05] <flaccid> felixjet: you goto konqueror configuration and file assocations
[05:05] <zam> when im tring to install kubuntu i have format my home /dev and im in big trabil now ; can any one tell me about recovry tool that i can use pleases ?
[05:06] <flaccid> pacman: you didn't tell me you were compiling. why are you compiling?
[05:06] <cpk2> lol
[05:06] <flaccid> pacman: you already have the game installed
[05:06] <orient2000> w32codesc search for easyubuntu on google.ca install one at a time. be carefull.
[05:07] <flaccid> pacman: it should be in your game menu or simply run torcs
[05:07] <Hawkwind> !info w32codecs
[05:07] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:07] <cpk2> there is a wiki on how to get the w32 codecs
[05:07] <pacman> yeah, but when I try and play, there are no cars or tracks
[05:07] <Hawkwind> !codecs
[05:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <orient2000> !easyubuntu
[05:07] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Don't use easyubuntu, read the link before it
[05:08] <pacman> flaccid: just 4 wheels and a background....no way to tell where the track is or even see the car
[05:08] <ndc> ya thank iwill try
[05:08] <ndc> :)
[05:09] <flaccid> pacman: are the menus when the game loads ok?
[05:09] <pacman> yes, the menus seem fine
[05:09] <flaccid> pacman: pastebin the output when you run it from konsole
[05:10] <flaccid> it should start with probably Visual Properties Report then you might have errors..
[05:10] <pacman> is the command just torcs?
[05:11] <felixjet> flaccid: im noob in linux so, ill ask you if this is permited. i make an asociation. for example .felixjet and put an icon for that. and i tried and the file opened as i want, with !bin/sh .it this ok?
[05:12] <flaccid> felixjet: yeah i guess so. if it is a shell script ensure you have #!/bin/sh as the first line
[05:12] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26129/
[05:12] <felixjet> yes it is and it have
[05:12] <felixjet> :)
[05:13] <flaccid> sweet
[05:14] <flaccid> pacman: you have the errors. use google and #torcs
[05:15] <flaccid> i probably would compile myself in this situation
[05:15] <pacman> compile?
[05:16] <flaccid> yes
[05:16] <flaccid> what you were doing before
[05:16] <pacman> with the ./config
[05:16] <pacman> rather ./configure
[05:16] <flaccid> yes
[05:17] <flaccid> you probably need to make a soft link
[05:17] <pacman> but that's where I'm having my problems
[05:17] <scottpe> Hello, I'm having a problem getting kubuntu to see my alps touchpad.  The system seems to see and configure all other hardware
[05:18] <scottpe> has anyone else had any problems with using their touchpads under kubuntu.  I had mandriva installed and the touchpad worked fine.
[05:19] <orient2000> where is this program located? in internet or graphics?
[05:20] <flaccid> pacman: i will look at your config.log if you paste it even though this problem is outside the scope of this channel
[05:21] <pacman> how do I open my config.log
[05:21] <Dr_willis> more config.log
[05:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:21] <rojikaru> I need to know how to register a name?
[05:22] <flaccid> cat ./config.log > /tmp/config.log then open it with a text editor and pastebin
[05:24] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26131/
[05:25] <rojikaru> Does anyone know a Josh Beck?
[05:27] <flaccid> pacman: without knowing the specific configure options. try ./configure --libdir=/usr/lib
[05:27] <flaccid> if that doesnt' work, you need to seek further help from the project itself
[05:28] <flaccid> alternatively remove torcs package and install it again. i'd of course recommend removing the torcs packages if you are successful with ./configure and make and then need to do a make install
[05:29] <rojikaru> WHo works as staff here?
[05:29] <rojikaru> I need to register my name.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> rojikaru,  you are refering to your nickname?
[05:29] <rojikaru> That's exactly what I meant.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> - try /msg nickserv help
[05:32] <Dr_willis> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[05:32] <rojikaru> Okay nwo I need help
[05:32] <rojikaru> now*
[05:33] <VanessaE> ok, is this thing still on?
[05:33] <VanessaE> good.  I didn't block myself out :)
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:34] <orient2000> orient2000 REGISTER
[05:34] <pacman> I did the remove, but I don't htink it removed it completely
[05:34] <rojikaru> login
[05:36] <Dr_willis> logjam
[05:36] <VanessaE> ok, bedtime for me.  night all.
[05:36] <flaccid> pacman: need to use apt-get --purge
[05:39] <rojikaru> How do you fake mail?
[05:39] <orient2000> how can I remove all uninstalled files in Konsole?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> what an odd question to ask rojikaru
[05:39] <Dr_willis> orient2000,   the files apt download are in let me check... :)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:40] <rojikaru> I know, but I'm reading this thing where I can be an uberhacker, so i'm supposed to ask, but the people in the room i'm in aren't answering.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> there is some apt clean command that remove4s them
[05:40] <Dr_willis> rojikaru,  i think you need to go spend more time reading about linux.
[05:41] <MasterEvilAce> which brings up a question.. is there a man page for linux in linux?
[05:41] <Hawkwind> orient2000: sudo apt-get clean
[05:41] <Hawkwind> orient2000: That will remove all the files in /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:41] <Dr_willis> MasterEvilAce,  since linux isent a command.. i would guess no.
[05:41] <rojikaru> Well it's a joke more, but i'm really looking for my teacher who might be on here.
[05:41] <orient2000> tks I will try
[05:42] <rojikaru> Plus my books haven't gotten in yet.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Theres a HUGE amount of online guides/docs/tutorials out  on the web. :)
[05:43] <rojikaru> I know, and I'm also trying to hack into a computer.
[05:43] <rojikaru> Because they put a computer on my old Windows machine.
[05:47] <orient2000> it did clear my system and now is stable thanks
[05:47] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  its odd that clearing the apt archives would do anything at all to affect system stability..
[05:47] <rojikaru> Dr.
[05:47] <rojikaru> I needed to know something.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm?
[05:49] <rojikaru> When I was ftping my friends computer it would just have a blank line and I couldn't do anything, what should I do?
[05:50] <orient2000> well, I could not run update manager and I could not install any new programs from adept
[05:50] <Dr_willis> rojikaru,  you are mot making sence.
[05:50] <rojikaru> okay
[05:50] <orient2000> Well, maybe not a stability problem really.
[05:50] <rojikaru> well I type ftp and his ipaddress.
[05:50] <rojikaru> and after that it says connected to <ipaddress>.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> rojikaru,  you do realize that when you enter a password it does NOT echo any characters
[05:50] <BonBonTheJon> rojikaru: he has to be running an ftp server
[05:50] <orient2000> thanks for helping me.
[05:51] <rojikaru> It never asked for a password, and he is.
[05:51] <felixjet> im runing wine but its like 400x320 screen. how can i max. it'
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sounds like he needs to cehck his ftp server logs...
[05:52] <Dr_willis> we wont go into how BAD  running a ftp server is from a security point of view. :)
[05:52] <rojikaru> Oh okay.
[05:52] <felixjet> !wine
[05:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:52] <rojikaru> We know how bad it is.
[05:52] <rojikaru> It's just for testing purposes.
[05:52] <rojikaru> it has a file the says delete once opend.
[05:53] <rojikaru> opened*
[05:54] <Dr_willis> i would say theres a problem with his ftp server
[05:56] <rojikaru> Now how do I login using telnet?
[05:57] <flaccid> rojikaru: telnet host
[05:58] <flaccid> if you do not have telnet, install it with your fav package manager
[05:58] <rojikaru> Now what about if I want to get in and see the files?
[05:59] <flaccid> what the telnet server serves is up to the admin of the server
[05:59] <rojikaru> So it's not like I can do with ssh and just log in knowing the root pass and be able to open the cd drive?
[06:00] <rojikaru> and do you know of any remote servers that are open for easy hacking, pardon, manipulating?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> most systems block direct logging in as root.
[06:00] <rojikaru> So how would I get around those?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Luck.
[06:03] <rojikaru> well i sshed hackthissite.org's server.
[06:03] <rojikaru> and the end result all i have to do is enter a password.
[06:08] <MotorCityMadMan> hello: I cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps and value = 1 > Can this value be tweaked ?
[06:08] <rojikaru> Well I must get ready for school, and a week of hacking, nite yalll.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> MotorCityMadMan,  what is it supposed to do?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:09] <Dr_willis> sudo echo '0' > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps
[06:09] <Dr_willis> MAY work.
[06:09] <MotorCityMadMan> advanced TCP features
[06:09] <Dr_willis> but isent 1 enabled? and 0 disabled?
[06:11] <MotorCityMadMan> i'm trying to tweak my connection for max use-ish of bandwidth
[06:14] <Dr_willis> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251509
[06:14] <Dr_willis> mentions that topic
[06:22] <dennister> g'evening
[06:33] <v3trae> hey guys, trying to help a friend get used to kubuntu. i'm a gentoo user myself, whats the command to start sshd in Kubuntu?
[06:34] <fdoving> !guidelines > dennister
[06:34] <verbose> i can only login under failsafe from kdm
[06:34] <fdoving> v3trae: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:34] <verbose> i've moved ~/.kde to dotkde so it's not something i've messed up there
[06:34] <v3trae> fdoving, thats what i told him, says it isn't there. Is ssh not available from a livecd?
[06:34] <verbose> any pointers as to where to start?
[06:35] <dennister> I'm sorry?
[06:35] <fdoving> v3trae: needs to be installed. packagename is 'openssh-server'
[06:35] <verbose> it's been a long time since the last time i rebooted so i'm not sure how many updates and whatnot have taken place since my last boot
[06:35] <dennister> fdoving: i thought I was trying to be polite?
[06:35] <fdoving> v3trae: it's on the cd, but it's not installed by default. (ref. no open ports by default policy).
[06:36] <fdoving> !away
[06:36] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:36] <fdoving> dennister: ^^
[06:36] <v3trae> fdoving, thanks =)
[06:36] <fdoving> it's more disturbing and annoying than polite, i'm afraid. :)
[06:36] <dennister> I was going to go back to something I was working on, sorry...
[06:36] <fdoving> no problem :)
[06:36] <fdoving> i have to go to work.
[06:36] <fdoving> see you later.
[06:36] <dennister> g'nite
[06:37] <dennister> when i chatted years ago, regularly, we were supposed to tell pps when we weren't paying attention
[06:38] <dennister> rules change...different environments
[06:38] <fdoving> yes, this is a support channel, and if everyone in here were randomly telling you they we're away it wouldn't be much room for support-chat.
[06:39] <dennister> ok..i see, i'm rereading the ircguidlines now
[06:39] <dennister> thanks for the heads-up
[06:39] <fdoving> verbose: can it be this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/53040
[06:39] <fdoving> dennister: you're welcome :)
[06:40] <fdoving> well.. off to work. bye.
[06:40] <dennister> bye
[06:41] <fdoving> !away
[06:41] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:41] <fdoving> dennister ^^
[06:41] <fdoving> :)
[06:41] <fdoving> now i'm leaving, for real.
[06:42] <dennister> i'm trying to do it silently so as not to disturb anyone
[06:42] <fdoving> the message is displayed.
[06:42] <fdoving> do you use konversation?
[06:42] <dennister> yes
[06:43] <dennister> fdoving; i don't want you to be late for work
[06:44] <fdoving> dennister: i work for myself. doesn't matter. but in konversation. go to settings -> identities
[06:44] <fdoving> go to the 'away'-tab.
[06:44] <dennister> I'll just leave for now to do my taks b4 i get kicked off someplace else for inactivity
[06:44] <fdoving> un-check 'show away message'
[06:45] <fdoving> now i'm leaving.
[06:45] <fdoving> bye.
[06:45] <dennister> ok, bye
[06:45] <verbose> fdoving: doesn't look like that's it.../dev/null has correct permissions
[06:45] <verbose> although my machine is doing exactly what that guy is describing
[06:46] <dennister> hawkwing is away anyway, so i'll be back later
[06:47] <dennister> opps...*hawkwind
[06:47] <dennister> bye for now
[06:49] <obf213> does anyone know why amarok wont let you change the tags on m4a files
[06:49] <obf213> it never seems to index them correctley and if you changed it  it says the change couldnt be save
[06:49] <obf213> if you change the file extention from m4a to mp3 it screws up the file and it doesnt really play
[07:17] <josef> hai everbody
[07:19] <josef> i want to install mysql thru adept if i type "mysql" it will show alots of mysql package but wich is it ???
[07:22] <noiesmo> josef, do you want php as well then pick like php5-mysql mysql-server-4.1
 thanks but i need only mysql
[07:23] <noiesmo> then mysql-server-4.1 should do it josef
 ok thanks you  see you later
[07:25] <noiesmo> josef, np
[07:30] <Arlington> hi!
[07:30] <Arlington> i need to change a option for a folder.
[07:31] <Arlington> i need the option for "all" to be set to read
[07:31] <Arlington> but the folder is owned by root.
[07:31] <noiesmo> well Arlington you need the usr who is sudo user to do it as by default root account is disabled
[07:31] <flaccid> Arlington: change the perms using sudo
[07:32] <Arlington> flaccid:  yes. but how?
[07:32] <Arlington> flaccid: i mean what command
[07:32] <noiesmo> sudo chown user:group folder
[07:32] <noiesmo> or chmod -r +xrw folder
[07:34] <noiesmo> oops chmod -r +xrw nogo sorry would be sudo chmod -r 777 folder to give all read write exe
[07:36] <Arlington> but all shouldn't have that the only one that i wanna change is the last option called others, i wan't it to be read.
[07:40] <Arlington> hello?!
[07:41] <flaccid> i don't recommend 777
[07:41] <flaccid> then its chmod 774
[07:41] <Arlington> but how do i change option other then the first called owner?
[07:42] <flaccid> or 775 for read and exec
[07:42] <flaccid> first called owner?
[07:43] <Arlington> when right clicking on teh folder and choosing the tab "protection" there are three types. "owner" "Group" "others" the option i wan't to change to read is the "other"
[07:45] <Arlington> but the folders is owned by root as it's a mounted hdd.
[07:46] <flaccid> Arlington: what filesystem is it?
[07:46] <Arlington> fat32
[07:46] <flaccid> in that case you need to mount it with a mask
[07:47] <flaccid> do you want to own it?
[07:47] <flaccid> and not root?
[07:47] <flaccid> !fat
[07:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:47] <aegeanbot> Wish I knew!
[07:48] <yonkeltron> !fuse
[07:48] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:48] <Arlington> a pearl script needs to acces the drive (that works perfectly with other programs run by me) but the pearlscript executes as another user.
[07:48] <aegeanbot> Bugger all, I dunno!
[07:48] <flaccid> ^^ Arlington that link shows it all
[07:49] <Arlington> can't you just tell me how to change the options for the folder?
[07:49] <flaccid> not that you cannot chmod on fat because fat does not have any perms
[07:49] <flaccid> you can't chmod with fat!
[07:49] <flaccid> fat does not have acl
[07:51] <Arlington> yes i could earlier. it worked perfectly. it's not the drive i chmod it's the folder in /media/sda10
[07:51] <Arlington> but you tought me how to chmod the first post (owner)
[07:51] <patrick> woahh
[07:51] <patrick> huh
[07:52] <flaccid> Arlington: that is the mount point folder
[07:52] <patrick> when is the final edgy going to be released?
[07:52] <Arlington> yes i know
[07:53] <flaccid> Arlington:
[07:53] <flaccid> so follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:53] <Arlington> flaccid. it is mopunting automattcile
[07:53] <Arlington> ly
[07:53] <flaccid> hghuh?
[07:54] <flaccid> you just set the desired perms on the mount point and mount it with the required mask
[07:55] <Arlington> the drive is mounting perfectly. just with the wrong permissions and i was able to change it to writeable for the owner of the folder (root) but i wan't it to be readable for the third option (others) can chmod change that for me? if so, how?
[07:55] <flaccid> or already said
[07:55] <flaccid> chmod 775
[07:55] <patrick> a
[07:55] <flaccid> or=i
[07:55] <flaccid> you really should read up on the masks, Arlington
[07:55] <patrick> when is edgy going to be released
[07:59] <Amority> Does anyone know when the final release of Edgy Eft will be out?
[08:03] <bimberi_> Amority: Oct 26 is the target date - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:04] <Amority> Thank you bimberi
[08:05] <bimberi_> np :)
[08:06] <flaccid> time to detach
[08:11] <HitmanX> apt-get or aptitude?
[08:12] <HitmanX> i read somewhere aptitude deals with dependencies better
[08:12] <twosouls82> apt-get works fine
[08:12] <bimberi_> !aptitude
[08:12] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[08:12] <twosouls82> use what you like better
[08:12] <Amority> Wow now I get it
[08:13] <HitmanX> ah right that makes sense
[08:13] <Amority> so when you do aptitude remove, it removes more dependencies?
[08:13] <Amority> or removes them in general
[08:13] <bimberi_> yes (as long as other packages don't use those dependencies)
[08:13] <Amority> Ok thanks
[08:13] <bimberi_> np :)
[08:14] <twosouls82> there is a 'plugin' for apt-get that does something like that too
[08:23] <peteryu> is anybody outside
[08:24] <twosouls82> hi peteryu
[08:24] <peteryu> Sorry, I am a newbie
[08:25] <twosouls82> :)
[08:25] <Amority> :p
[08:25] <twosouls82> peteryu: we all were once
[08:25] <Amority> yup and Im still a newbie myself actually ^-^
[08:26] <peteryu> i just install Kubuntu and i don't know what to do
[08:26] <flaccid> i'm a n00b
[08:27] <twosouls82> peteryu: any general questions? or do you want me to point you out to the man pages, tutorials, help files etc?
[08:27] <twosouls82> s/general/particular
[08:30] <peteryu> thanks in advance !
[08:31] <twosouls82> peteryu: heh :) no props
[08:31] <twosouls82> s/props/probs
[08:33] <twosouls82> peteryu: a really good start for (k)ubuntu would be their help file (khelpcentre of gnome-help (?))
[08:37] <maryen> was edgy rc1 released tonight?
[08:39] <maryen> hello?
[08:42] <bimberi_> maryen: no, it's scheduled for Oct 19 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:43] <maryen> hmm, whats with the huge update then
[08:44] <maryen> brb
[08:55] <twosouls82> later people :)
[09:10] <|lostbyte|x> Hi Guys..
[09:13] <D_C2> hello
[09:13] <Amority> hello
[09:13] <|lostbyte|x> This place is quite.
[09:13] <Amority> yes it is lol
[09:17] <draik> I know that GNOME has a widget for a dictionary/thesaurus. Does KDE have something similar?
[09:17] <Amority> Ive been looking for one myself. Im sure there is one, But I havnt found one yet
[09:17] <|lostbyte|x> kdict
[09:17] <Amority> oo thanks :D
[09:17] <stoic> im pretty sure there is one that comes with open office
[09:18] <stoic> dont quote me on that though
[09:18] <Amority> lol
[09:18] <|lostbyte|x> :P
[09:19] <stoic> does anyone in here know much about xfce?
[09:20] <Amority> I know a little bit
[09:20] <stoic> it is a good gui to run on older machines correct?
[09:20] <Amority> yes
[09:21] <andersgo> It's quick and fast. Recommended if you think Gnome/KDE is too heavy
[09:21] <|lostbyte|x> !xfce
[09:21] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <Amority> right
[09:21] <Amority> its really fast and lightweight. I installed it on my friends PII pc
[09:21] <Amority> runs smoothly too :D
[09:21] <stoic> ok, i have an older laptop that i am going to try installing xubuntu on, its kind of my test machine right now, the integrated 512 ram is also used for my video card... :( so i need a pretty light interface to run it efficiantly
[09:21] <Amority> Xubuntu will do more than well on that then
[09:22] <stoic> cool, i mean its only 3 years old... but i when i installed kubuntu on my desktop i noticed a deffinate improvement on the speed
[09:22] <stoic> which means that the laptop probaly just can't handle that heavy of a GUI
[09:22] <andersgo> My Atheros ath0 interface installed perfectly during the installation, but after kernel upgrade the driver has disappeared...
[09:23] <Amority> O yeah Kubuntu is a resource hog ;) Xubuntu runs well on my friends pc which has 256mb sdram, shared with onboard graphics
[09:23] <andersgo> Do I have to do some manual work after each kernel-upgrade?
[09:23] <stoic> ouch...
[09:23] <stoic> the driver just dissapeared on you?
[09:23] <Amority> o
[09:23] <Amority> yeah
[09:23] <Amority> cuz its not in the new kernel folder
[09:23] <Amority> I install the drivers to the main Firmware folder so no matter what kernel you run, it works
[09:24] <Amority> just reinstall it
[09:24] <andersgo> How doI reinstall the mad-wifi driver in Kubuntu?
[09:24] <Amority> what kind of wireless adaptor are you using?
[09:25] <Amority> Do you know what kind of chipset it is?
[09:25] <draik> Amority, kdict is good, but is there anything that will run on my system bar?
[09:26] <Amority> I havnt found a dictionary widget for the system bar for KDE. You can search www.kde-look.org but I havnt had any luck
[09:26] <andersgo> ath0: <Atheros 5212>
[09:27] <andersgo> This is from my FreeBSD which is currently running
[09:27] <Amority> andersgo have you installed it in linux before? Im not fond of the Atheros chipsets. Mine is a broadcom. Sorry If I am unable to help you well
[09:28] <stoic> ok well my xubuntu download is done, off to installing... goodbye
[09:28] <andersgo> Yeah It ran perfectly on my old Fedora installation, but I had to recompile the mad-wifi driver after each kernel upgrade
[09:28] <draik> searched there and http://www.google.com/linux too,     nothing
[09:29] <Amority> draik, same here. I searched and searched as well. No luck. :D
[09:29] <draik> oh well
[09:30] <Amority> me too
[09:30] <andersgo> I had some hopes that the ath driver in Kubuntu would work automagicly - even after kernel upgrades
[09:31] <Amority> I know it will if you extract a copy of the drivers in the Firmware dir. Thats what I did. Is that what you did. Im not even sure if thats whats doing it for me.
[09:31] <andersgo> I have not copied anything - yet
[09:31] <draik> Is it possible to find drivers for an old (2002-ish) scanner for linux?
[09:31] <Amority> ok
[09:32] <twosouls82> lo :)
[09:34] <Amority> Hehe, how do I register to this channel :D?
[09:34] <Hurgin> has anyone else had these errors: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169"?
[09:35] <Amority> what are you doing when you get this error?
[09:35] <twosouls82> !nickserv
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Amority> thanks twosouls
[09:35] <Amority> o
[09:35] <Hurgin> if I run an X app from the console i get them
[09:35] <twosouls82> Amority: wait a sec
[09:35] <Amority> ok
[09:35] <andersgo> The only diff between lib/firmware/2.6.15-26-386
[09:36] <andersgo> and the -27 revision is the acx directory.
[09:36] <twosouls82> Amority: this will do; http://www.irchat.tv/nickserv.htm
[09:36] <Hurgin> "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[09:36] <Hurgin>   Major opcode:  147
[09:36] <Hurgin>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:36] <Hurgin>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:36] <Hurgin> Failed to open device
[09:36] <Hurgin> "
[09:36] <Amority> thanks twosouls
[09:36] <twosouls82> ;)
[09:37] <Amority> andersgo, when you extract your drivers, put a copy in your firmware dir and I think that will keep you from having to redo it after kernel updates
[09:37] <twosouls82> Hurgin: that's just a non-existant (pointer (?)) device in your xorg.conf
[09:37] <twosouls82> remove it and the error will be gone
[09:38] <Hurgin> how do i identify it in the file?
[09:38] <andersgo> Amority: Thanks. I'll try that approach.
[09:38] <Amority> Np :D
[09:38] <twosouls82> Hurgin: it's probably a pointer, look for the input devices... you will soon enough see what you don't have :)
[09:40] <twosouls82> Hurgin: use  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you are unsure
[09:40] <Hurgin> thanks twosouls82
[09:41] <twosouls82> np
[09:41] <Hurgin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26143/
[09:42] <Hurgin> I notice xorg.conf mentions a ps/2 mouse, but I have a usb one?
[09:42] <twosouls82> Hurgin: It's the "stylus" and the "eraser", assuming you don't have it either.. if it doesn't ring a bell... you don't have it
[09:43] <Hurgin> yeah def. do not have a stylus - will comment those out :)
[09:43] <twosouls82> Hurgin: "cursor" too, I forgot that one
[09:43] <twosouls82> and your mouse works like a charm right? ;)
[09:44] <Hurgin> yeah - thanks
[09:44] <twosouls82> anytime
[09:53] <stefan> Hej
[09:54] <stefan> Jag r nybrjare p linux och hller p att bli knpp och undrar om det finns nn vnlig som vill hjlpa mig
[09:54] <twosouls82> hi stefan
[09:55] <twosouls82> and in English that means? (you will be helped a lot quicker/easier that way)
[09:55] <stefan> ok Im sorry
[09:55] <twosouls82> our Scandinavian isn't that good
[09:55] <feet> hi.. amarok throws a bunch of songs into Various Artists.. i dont understand how they got in there, when several other songs by the same artist have their own listing... what exactly does the collection builder look for when categorising items?? thanks in advance :-)
[09:56] <twosouls82> feet:  the id3 tags
[09:56] <twosouls82> feet: it looks like the mp3s you have aren't cleanly filled in
[09:56] <stefan> I new to all this linux
[09:56] <twosouls82> s/cleanly/correctly
[09:57] <stefan> And my problem is that I have problems with getting my readeon 9600 to work with kubuntu
[09:58] <twosouls82> stefan: I myself don't have a ati card, but what is the exact problem you have with getting it to work?
[09:58] <twosouls82> s/a/an
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> does anybody know if katapult has an error log
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> and if so, where is it kept
[09:59] <feet> twosouls82: i have all the fields filled..
[09:59] <feet> im quit @n@l when it comes to that
[09:59] <stefan> I dont know how to make the file start
[10:00] <Amority> stefan
[10:00] <Amority> did you download the ati driver
[10:00] <stefan> yes
[10:00] <Amority> I use ati
[10:00] <twosouls82> feet: well, if you have more than one artist, it IS various
[10:00] <Amority> ok which driver did you download?
[10:00] <stefan> yes but i cant start it
[10:00] <feet> its just one artist
[10:00] <feet> no
[10:00] <feet> sorry i mean
[10:00] <Amority> well you could use  "sudo sh <filename>"  if the driver is in your home dir
[10:00] <twosouls82> hehe :) feet
[10:00] <feet> theres many artists yes... but these artists also have their own categories
[10:00] <feet> so why cant the songs be in those?
[10:01] <stefan> xorg.driver.fglrx.dev_  is the name of the driver
[10:01] <twosouls82> feet you can choose the display type for the collection in the dropdown list above it
[10:01] <feet> i know
[10:01] <feet> i have it set to artist
[10:01] <Amority> where did you download that driver Stefan?
[10:01] <feet> so in theory, it should display all songs by artist
[10:02] <feet> most of them do, but a few do not and wind up in various
[10:02] <stefan> from ati
[10:02] <Amority> hold on real fast
[10:02] <twosouls82> and you want the various to appear in their own sub group?
[10:02] <Amority> I have the Fglrx installer driver
[10:02] <twosouls82> feet: like they should, various artists in the various group
[10:02] <hyper> !de
[10:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:02] <stefan> ok does the fglrx work for my card
[10:03] <feet> lets say there is a category for an artist called singer x. so theres songs listed under singer x's list. GREAT! but some of singer x's songs are listed under various artists. that doesnt make sense.
[10:03] <Amority> yes
[10:03] <Amority> use the driver 8.26.18
[10:03] <Amority> download it from the recent drivers list on ati's website
[10:03] <Amority> then use this
[10:03] <Amority> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910
[10:03] <stefan> ok  but how do I start the file when I have downloaded it
[10:03] <cpk2> feet: huh, i never noticed that until you brought that up
[10:03] <twosouls82> feet, amarok handles various artists files that way... I am not to fond of it either
[10:03] <feet> oh
[10:04] <Amority> just follow that tutorial
[10:04] <twosouls82> fond/font?
[10:04] <hyper> anyone can help me setting up a streaming mp3 server? I installed gnump3 but I don't know how to access it now
[10:05] <twosouls82> feet, I use the 'order by album' the most
[10:05] <stefan> ok thanks
[10:05] <Amority> np :D
[10:05] <feet> albums are no good to me :P
[10:05] <feet> because lets imagine singer x has a billion albums... lol
[10:06] <twosouls82> feet; you can use the filter above it
[10:06] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:06] <bohmto> i cant send or recive files in kopete icq
[10:06] <feet> thats no good
[10:06] <feet> i dont want to type
[10:06] <bohmto> im running edgy
[10:06] <feet> i want the list there right now in view
[10:06] <twosouls82> bohmto: forward the ports it uses in your router config (nat)
[10:06] <feet> hence, using artist view
[10:07] <twosouls82> or even open them in your firewall
[10:07] <bohmto> any idea if im missing a plugin
[10:07] <twosouls82> bohmto: yep, you're not
[10:08] <twosouls82> feet: request a adjustment :)
[10:08] <twosouls82> s/a/an
[10:08] <feet> lol i shall
[10:08] <feet> where would i do that, probably something on the amarok website i guess
[10:09] <bohmto> wich plugin are requierd for kopete to send and recive files?
[10:09] <twosouls82> dunno feet, maybe you could check #amarok
[10:10] <twosouls82> they'll tell you
[10:10] <feet> kopete in the repositories lets you send files
[10:10] <twosouls82> bohmto: none at all
[10:10] <feet> in a conversation window, click chat then send file
[10:10] <bohmto> well i cant do that
[10:11] <feet> or chat, contacts, the contact's name, then send a file
[10:11] <twosouls82> bohmto: you should ensure that the firewall of your box and the one on your router don't stop the transfer
[10:11] <bohmto> i have tried that to
[10:11] <feet> unusual
[10:11] <twosouls82> pretty damn usual
[10:11] <twosouls82> :D
[10:12] <bohmto> well i can try to reinstall kopete
[10:12] <feet> may work
[10:12] <twosouls82> will not, unless I am wrong
[10:12] <Amority> will sudo apt-get install kopete work?
[10:12] <feet> yeh
[10:12] <Amority> o wait im completely off subject im sorry
[10:13] <feet> even sudo apt-get install --reinstall kopete
[10:13] <feet> that will work as well
[10:13] <Amority> ok thanks
[10:13] <bohmto> and i will try with licq to to see if the problem is the router
[10:13] <feet> come to think of it, will there be jabber support in kopete anytime soon for the repos?
[10:13] <khirr> wllo
[10:13] <khirr> ello
[10:13] <feet> not jabber
[10:13] <feet> jingle sorry
[10:13] <khirr> i have one question
[10:13] <twosouls82> bohmto: that will only do if they use the same ports
[10:14] <khirr> i need format one disk
[10:14] <bohmto> ok thanks
[10:14] <khirr> but i wanna that be on ntfs, but since kubuntu
[10:14] <khirr> how can i do ir?
[10:15] <feet> so you want to format a disk to ntfs?
[10:15] <khirr> yes
[10:15] <feet> get qtparted using adept
[10:15] <khirr> i clean one particion without want
[10:15] <feet> why do you want ntfs
[10:15] <khirr> qtparted?
[10:16] <twosouls82> ntfs -> linux? :D
[10:16] <feet> if anything, use either ext3 or vfat
[10:17] <khirr> i converted one particion to ext3, i lost all my data, but whatever, now i need convert that to ntfs
[10:17] <feet> what for??
[10:17] <twosouls82> khirr: how did you 'convert' it?
[10:18] <khirr> installing kubuntu 32 bits, cause 64 is a litle uncompatible
[10:18] <khirr> my brother use this machine too, but he works with windows
[10:18] <feet> then you probably accidentally wiped the drive
[10:19] <twosouls82> yup, I think so too feet, and thus khirr
[10:19] <khirr> yes
[10:19] <khirr> i downloades qtparted
[10:19] <twosouls82> whiped for good probably
[10:19] <feet> there are extraordinary measures you can take to recover data... none of which work
[10:19] <feet> the data is gone
[10:20] <feet> trust me, ive been there and back
[10:20] <twosouls82> unless you just f*cked up the table, then you could restore it.. changed file system type -> wrecked it
[10:20] <khirr> but, the data was in the unit D, i cleaned unit E, where was my information, really important is my brother information, my, i can download 30gb again :'(
[10:20] <cox377> i was talking with someone on here about the canon IP1000
[10:20] <cox377> dont know if they are on now
[10:22] <khirr> omg
[10:22] <feet> oh i found the answer to my amarok question
[10:22] <feet> yay
[10:22] <Amority> :P
[10:22] <khirr> i forgot my root pass
[10:23] <twosouls82> feet: which is? (dying to know it too)
[10:23] <feet> lol
[10:23] <twosouls82> ;
[10:23] <hyper> anyone can help me setting up a streaming mp3 server? I installed gnump3 but I don't know how to access it now
[10:23] <feet> set the view to Artist/Album, right click the Album, and pick Do not show
[10:24] <khirr> gays
[10:24] <khirr> plpop
[10:24] <khirr> ;S
[10:24] <khirr> guys
[10:25] <twosouls82> feet: heh :P
[10:25] <khirr> one question, how could change my root pass
[10:25] <cpk2> i think its passwd root
[10:25] <cpk2> as sudo
[10:25] <feet> just passwd
[10:25] <feet> as sudo, yes
[10:25] <twosouls82> khirr: sudo passwd
[10:26] <khirr> nice
[10:26] <khirr> thanks
[10:26] <twosouls82> *eeeek*
[10:27] <cpk2> pretty sure you want to specify root as whose password you are changing
[10:27] <twosouls82> cpk2: you don't need to, just passwd will be root automatically
[10:27] <feet> yeah
[10:28] <khirr> WELL
[10:28] <Carbon_Monoxide> Hail everybody
[10:28] <khirr> I'LL CHECK IS HAVE AGAIN MY UNIT
[10:29] <feet> im off, thanks for the assistance fellas
[10:29] <Carbon_Monoxide> I got some problem on install j2re and jdk on dapper, what is the suitable channel I should ask?
[10:29] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: what is the problem?
[10:29] <Dendron> hey everyone. Firefox crashed on me. when i launch it again, my system says that its already running. So what do i type in the terminal to kill the firefox process?
[10:30] <twosouls82> Dendron: killall -9 firefox and restart it
[10:30] <Amority> killall firefox
[10:30] <Dendron> thanx.
[10:30] <cpk2> not -9!
[10:30] <Dendron> no9
[10:30] <Dendron> ?
[10:30] <cpk2> unless it is misbehaving
[10:30] <twosouls82> since it is :D
[10:30] <cpk2> only use -9 when it wont die for sure
[10:30] <Dendron> well i did sudo killall firefox AND it didnt work
[10:30] <Amority> then -9 it
[10:30] <Amority> :P
[10:31] <cpk2> try doing kill pid
[10:31] <twosouls82> that's why the -9
[10:31] <twosouls82> :D
[10:31] <Amority> try pid too
[10:31] <Dendron> ok let me try these. i dont wanna reboot, yah know
[10:31] <cpk2> i've never trusted killall anyways
[10:31] <Amority> try whatever :P
[10:31] <cpk2> Dendron: do ps aux and find firefox then do kill firefoxespidhere
[10:31] <flaccid> with killall the process name needs to match eactly
[10:31] <Carbon_Monoxide> I have added the Multiverse repository, but it says "Some packages could not be installed"
[10:32] <flaccid> in this case firefoxis firefox-bin. so killall firefox-bin
[10:32] <Dendron> hey ps aux is pretty nifty =D
[10:32] <Dendron> Try killall firefox-bin
[10:32] <Dendron> one sec
[10:32] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: have universe enabled too?
[10:32] <Carbon_Monoxide> twosouls82: yea
[10:33] <Dendron> ok i did 'killall firefox-bin'
[10:33] <Dendron> it worked
[10:33] <Dendron> thanx
[10:33] <Dendron> !
[10:33] <Dendron> =D
[10:33] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: what is the exact error when you use the console to install those packages?
[10:33] <Dendron> do what does ps aux mean? Like, whats it stand for?
[10:34] <flaccid> Dendron: man ps
[10:34] <Dendron> kk
[10:34] <andersgo> ps waux is the *BSD style of ps -ef
[10:34] <flaccid> good explantaation there on the aux thing
[10:34] <Dendron> man ps | festival --TTS    =D
[10:35] <Carbon_Monoxide> twosouls82: It says "Some packages could not be installed."
[10:35] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: which are you trying to install?
[10:35] <Dendron> thanks everyone. once again you saved my life. i heart you all. heh   Adios for now
[10:35] <flaccid> cia0
[10:36] <Carbon_Monoxide> sun-java5-bin
[10:36] <Carbon_Monoxide> I had got Borland JBuilder installed, so I got Free-Java on my machine
[10:37] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: could be the conflict
[10:37] <twosouls82> try removing that one first
[10:38] <tabias> how do I change the date in korganizer zo that google calendar shows up at the correct time (currently taking the utc time from the google calendar) (so online 10h my time will be 10h utc time in korganizer)
[10:38] <khirr> guys
[10:38] <khirr> i'm Khirr
[10:39] <twosouls82> wb khirr
[10:39] <khirr> i'm reinstaling Kubuntu :'(
[10:39] <khirr> but, i have my Particion :D
[10:40] <Carbon_Monoxide> so I should remove Free-Java or along with JBuilder?
[10:40] <khirr> can i use JavaCreator in Kubuntu?
[10:40] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: I would do that, and then get sun-java installed, on succes.. reinstall jbuilder
[10:42] <Carbon_Monoxide> okay, thanks for your advice, twosouls82
[10:42] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: I hope it will do
[10:42] <khirr> what is the speed diferente in Kubuntu AMD64 and 32bits?
[10:43] <twosouls82> khirr: small, I have a 64 but have 32 installed
[10:43] <khirr> me too
[10:43] <khirr> i'm had intalled 64amd
[10:43] <khirr> but, now i'm installing 32
[10:43] <twosouls82> khirr: good choice.. support will get better as soon as all browser plugins are 64 bit available
[10:44] <khirr> when will be that?
[10:44] <twosouls82> or if there will be a 32 bit plugin loader for 64 bit systems
[10:44] <khirr> well guys, i have to sleep, in peru is 3:45 am ;S
[10:44] <twosouls82> khirr: well... I dunno.. but I don't expect them soon...
[10:44] <twosouls82> nighty night
[10:45] <khirr> cya guys, thanks for the help
[10:50] <twosouls82> !search build
[10:50] <ubotu> Found: build-essential,kernel,build-essentials,chroot,gnome,ftbs,daily build,builddep,build-dep,daily
[10:50] <twosouls82> !builddep
[10:50] <ubotu> build-dep is a handy APT tool that will try to automatically install build (compile) dependencies for you. In the terminal: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[10:50] <twosouls82> !search package
[10:50] <ubotu> Found: debconf,latest kde,kdeincludes,repos,apt,no, amarok,motu,aptitude,rpm,changelogs
[10:51] <flaccid> !search flaccid
[10:51] <ubotu> Found:
[10:51] <flaccid> thought i was nothing!
[10:51] <twosouls82> :D
[10:52] <twosouls82> !fight flaccid twosouls82
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fight flaccid twosouls82 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <twosouls82> no google fights? :9
[10:52] <flaccid> whats a google fight
[10:52] <twosouls82> flaccid: that's a bot checking who appears the most on Google, used in some rooms here
[10:53] <flaccid> ah ok
[10:54] <flaccid> !f1ght flaccid vs sex
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f1ght flaccid vs sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <flaccid> oopass
[10:56] <twosouls82> hehe, flaccid.. not here ;)
[10:56] <twosouls82> ubuntulinux.nl? since when is it Dutch?
[10:57] <flaccid> you don't say
[11:03] <ukAdamF> Morning/Evening/Afternoon all. Just a quick one.. any idea why KDE forgets my dns settings on every reboot? It was fine until I installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu.. now I have to continually reset it each morning :(
[11:03] <flaccid> are you using dhcp?
[11:04] <ukAdamF> No, it *should* be all static. It was under Ubuntu. It remembers my IP, gateway and netmask fine.. just has issues with dns
[11:09] <cpk2> ukAdamF: hmm does /etc/network/interfaces have what you are looking for?
[11:09] <flaccid> ukAdamF: change it in System Settings > network
[11:09] <cpk2> might be able to set static dns there, although dns is stored in resolv.conf
[11:10] <ukAdamF> flaccid : That's the problem.. I have to do that every reboot. Even if I modify resolv.conf, next reboot, it's empty again.
[11:10] <ukAdamF> cpk2: Looking...
[11:10] <cpk2> i suppose you could make a script to edit resolv.conf on every boot heh
[11:10] <flaccid> ukAdamF: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[11:10] <ukAdamF> righto
[11:11] <cpk2> i dunno if that interfaces file is the answer though
[11:12] <ukAdamF> pastebin being sloooooooow.
[11:12] <ukAdamF> auto eth0
[11:12] <ukAdamF> iface eth0 inet static
[11:12] <ukAdamF> is the important bit, it's set to static
[11:13] <flaccid> is that the only things in there
[11:13] <ukAdamF> no, lots more but didn't want to flood the channel. Still waiting for pastebin to take the submit..
[11:14] <maijanew> hi, how can I convert file names from one encoding to other? My file names aftwr move to Kubuntu now look like "t?ext??.txt".
[11:15] <ukAdamF> http://adamf.pastebin.co.uk/3968      given up on .com
[11:16] <cpk2> ukAdamF: try adding the dns in there as well? =P
[11:17] <ukAdamF> Will certainly give it a go ;)
[11:17] <cpk2> nevermind looks like interfaces doesnt allow a dns option in it
[11:18] <ukAdamF> ah. That'll be why I can't find it in the manpage
[11:18] <flaccid> cpk2: you can't add dns in interfaces. that is for resolv.conf
[11:18] <flaccid> well at least thats what i thought
[11:19] <flaccid> which interface is in question, ukAdamF
[11:19] <ukAdamF> eth0
[11:20] <flaccid> you are right. it is fine. do you run a vpn or any other services that change networking?
[11:20] <ukAdamF> Under Gnome (wife uses it), it's fine. Under KDE, it forgets every reboot. So odd
[11:20] <ukAdamF> No, it's pretty vanilla to be honest.
[11:21] <cpk2> and kde just blanks resolv.conf?
[11:22] <flaccid> ukAdamF: check logs. /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, /var/log/daemon.log
[11:22] <flaccid> try to find what is doing it
[11:22] <ukAdamF> Well, I'm not saying KDE is responsible for that, but it happens each reboot and the symtoms began upon installing KDE.
[11:22] <cpk2> well maybe kde and gnome are fighting =P
[11:22] <ukAdamF> I wouldn't be surprised :P
[11:22] <ukAdamF> I'll have a rumage in the logs next boot
[11:23] <flaccid> kde and gnome both use the system. ensure you have no network profiles being used with a network manager program
[11:24] <ukAdamF> I've not really installed much to be honest, the system is only a few weeks old. I set up networking during the Ubuntu install, and hadn't touched it again since. (Until I installed kubuntu-desktop). There are other people out there experiencing the same problem, according to Google, but no answers as yet.
[11:25] <flaccid> can you show me a page about these other people
[11:25] <ukAdamF> sure, 1 sec.
[11:25] <ukAdamF> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252967
[11:26] <ukAdamF> There are some more, can't remember what I searched for for the rest. But iirc there are 2 'victims' in that thread alone.
[11:27] <ukAdamF> Not sure if that's the right thread now.. can't find the Kubuntu reference
[11:27] <ukAdamF> but this one might have my answers..
[11:27] <ukAdamF> resolvconf, possibly.
[11:30] <flaccid> you should probably stop trying to blame kubuntu or blaming anything until you know what did it
[11:30] <ukAdamF> I'm not blaming kubuntu, specifically. As I said the symptoms only began upon installing it. If I load up into Gnome, it's fine. Load KDE, doesn't work until I reset it in the control panel.
[11:31] <ukAdamF> While not conclusive, it's a reasonable assumption.
[11:32] <flaccid> its not reasonable at all actually
[11:32] <flaccid> something doesnt need to change for it to go bad
[11:32] <flaccid> assumptions are never good imo
[11:33] <flaccid> until you can find further information, i can't think of anything to do
[11:33] <ukAdamF> It hasn't 'gone bad', it was never right to begin with (under KDE). I'm not blaming anyone or anything, just pointing to the likely suspects. Either KDE itself, or something that installed with the kubuntu-desktop package, is causing problems.
[11:33] <ukAdamF> That much is fact.
[11:33] <flaccid> when you go to network settings, are there any profiles in the network profiles tab?
[11:34] <wedgeV> where can i 2.6.18 or later -mm packages for ubuntu?
[11:34] <wedgeV> get
[11:34] <flaccid> gone bad was a figure of speech. anything could of caused this problem.. you have no idea what..
[11:34] <ukAdamF> no, no profiles listed.
[11:35] <flaccid> the likely suspects are anything that has access to /etc/resolv.conf
[11:35] <flaccid> directly or indirectly..
[11:35] <ukAdamF> We'll agree to differ on that point I think :)
[11:36] <flaccid> assume makes an ass out of u and me
[11:36] <flaccid> if you have heard that saying
[11:36] <ukAdamF> I am not assuming. it's a statement of fact than since installing it, it hasn't worked (right).
[11:36] <flaccid> you mentioned that many times..
[11:36] <ukAdamF> Revert to Gnome, and all is good.
[11:37] <Smooph> hi somebody here who know how to get OSS Sounds forwarded to ALSA with the aoss thingy?
[11:38] <flaccid> so if you boot up, log in to gnome, then log out of gnome, and then into kde is it ok for gnome but resolv.conf goes blank for kde?
[11:38] <Carbon_Monoxide> Excuse me, what is the best channel I should ask to when I got a problem on install Sun-Java?
[11:38] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: here
[11:38] <flaccid> or #java if its not in the ubuntu sources
[11:38] <Carbon_Monoxide> flaccid: Hello
[11:38] <flaccid> hi
[11:39] <Carbon_Monoxide> I'm trying to install the Sun-Java on dapper repostitory
[11:39] <flaccid> and the problem CM?
[11:40] <Carbon_Monoxide> I got dependency problem
[11:40] <flaccid> ij
[11:40] <flaccid> ok
[11:40] <Carbon_Monoxide> sun-java5-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable
[11:40] <Carbon_Monoxide> seems that I need the UnixODBC, but it failed to grap it
[11:41] <wedgeV> Smooph: you just start the application with "aoss <application>"
[11:41] <flaccid> CM: what is the output of sudo dpkg -l | grep -i unixodbc
[11:41] <Smooph> what if it doesn't work
[11:41] <wedgeV> does sound work in alsa?
[11:42] <Carbon_Monoxide> flaccid: no return
[11:42] <cpk2> Carbon_Monoxide: sudo apt-get install unixodbc doesnt work?
[11:42] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: try sudo apt-get install unixodbc
[11:42] <Smooph> thing is I tried to have my teamspeak running with aoss so I can have games running under wine too but it doesn't work
[11:42] <|Mikael|> mplayer doesn't play audio on dvd
[11:43] <wedgeV> you can setup wine to use alsa
[11:43] <|Mikael|> what to do? i searched google, but couldn't find any solution
[11:43] <Carbon_Monoxide> cpk2: I got a message saying "odbcinst1debian1" is replacing it
[11:43] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: for example amarok doesn't play sound over wine
[11:43] <|Mikael|> only if i change wine to alsa
[11:44] <|Mikael|> oh :)
[11:44] <Smooph> sure but cannot setup teamspeak to use alsa wedgeV
[11:44] <|Mikael|> any one any ide?
[11:44] <|Mikael|> ide == idea?
[11:44] <cpk2> hrmm, are you using that particular one for a reason?
[11:44] <wedgeV> Smooph: is teamspeak a linux or a windows app?
[11:44] <cpk2> wedgeV: its both
[11:45] <wedgeV> |Mikael|: mplayer -ao alsa ?
[11:45] <wedgeV> ah
[11:45] <m4x1mum_> ok people whats a good download manager ?
[11:45] <flaccid> CM: weird. i have both installed.
[11:45] <cpk2> m4x1mum_: i just use kget
[11:45] <wedgeV> and the linux one doenst support alsa?
[11:45] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: will try it
[11:45] <m4x1mum_> hmm is it installed by default?
[11:45] <Carbon_Monoxide> Package unixodbc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:46] <flaccid> !unixodbc
[11:46] <Smooph> no you can specifie your alternative sound device but I don't know how
[11:46] <ubotu> unixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB
[11:46] <wedgeV> if your soundcard only has one playback channel you probably want to configure also to use dmix
[11:46] <wedgeV> alsa
[11:46] <Carbon_Monoxide> perhaps it;s not on the repositories in my list?
[11:46] <Smooph> and i don't think it works something like "/dev/sound/alsa"
[11:46] <wedgeV> Smooph: well, i dont know teamspeak
[11:46] <cpk2> !info unixodbc
[11:46] <flaccid> well its from main, so you have that right?
[11:46] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: does sudo apt-get install unixodbc odbcinst1debian1 work?
[11:47] <m4x1mum_> does kget automatically rename files if the files going to be downloaded have the same filename in the harddisk?
[11:47] <Carbon_Monoxide> !info unixodbc doesn't work
[11:47] <ubotu> unixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB
[11:48] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: thats because its for ubotu in this channel
[11:48] <cpk2> m4x1mum_: dont know, I rarely use it really =P
[11:48] <m4x1mum_> ooh ok
[11:48] <Carbon_Monoxide> flaccid: I tried 'sudo apt-get install unixodbc odbcinst1debian1' and got the same result
[11:48] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: lol mplayer hangs (even with killall)
[11:48] <flaccid> !odbcinst1debian1
[11:48] <ubotu> odbcinst1debian1: Support library and helper program for accessing odbc ini files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 240 kB
[11:48] <wedgeV> killall -KILL
[11:48] <|Mikael|> it shows broadcast error flags like on tv at midknight
[11:48] <|Mikael|> :)
[11:49] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: is main in your sources?
[11:49] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: Ok. it's gone
[11:49] <wedgeV> |Mikael|: i always use vlc to play dvds
[11:49] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: maybe it doesn't work because i use berel xgl?
[11:50] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: then i will try vlc - kaffeeine did'nt play any sound too
[11:50] <|Mikael|> anyway it try it
[11:50] <wedgeV> well, does anythinh play any sound?
[11:50] <Carbon_Monoxide> yes, main restrictied repostory is in my sources.list
[11:50] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: yes xmms/amarok
[11:51] <cpk2> |Mikael|: does kaffeine or mplayer play sound after amarok/xmms is closed?
[11:52] <cpk2> whoa I just found out that the amarok logo in the toolbar by the clock "empties" the closer to the end of the song you get
[11:52] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: just in case make sure these are in your list. i'll send it to you by pm.
[11:52] <cpk2> I am using more than 1 sound stream at once without any problems...
[11:52] <wedgeV> cpk2: what soundcard?
[11:53] <cpk2> motherboard
[11:53] <|Mikael|> cpk2: no
[11:53] <wedgeV> cpk2: cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback
[11:53] <felixjet> where is the Auto Start of kubuntu ?
[11:53] <wedgeV> how many playback channels do you have?
[11:54] <cpk2> 1
[11:54] <wedgeV> do you have  ~/.asound* stuff?
[11:54] <twosouls82> felixjet: for kde's autostart ~/.Autostart
[11:55] <felixjet> i dont have it :S
[11:55] <twosouls82> felixjet: my bad, I meant; ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:55] <cpk2> wedgeV: nope =D i did absolutely nothing to configure any sound and multiple streams works fine XD
[11:56] <felixjet> twosouls82:  how i add things? placing a lnk ?
[11:56] <twosouls82> felixjet: use konqueror to browse to it, their you can add a link -indeed- using right click -> new link to application
[11:57] <fulat2k> hi folks, i have setup lvm on kubuntu dapper.  i'll be changing my mobo soon.  was wondering if the lvm will stay intact after the upgrade?
[11:57] <twosouls82> s/their/there
[11:57] <felixjet> twosouls82:  ok ty
[11:57] <twosouls82> felixjet: np ;)(
[11:57] <twosouls82> -(
[11:57] <cpk2> twosouls82: so is it odd that I have multiple streams with no problem? =P
[11:58] <Smooph> wedgeV: OK I am testing your asoundrc hope it works thanks cya in a bit
[11:58] <cpk2> twosouls82: oops you werent the one talking to me hahaha
[11:58] <cpk2> =X
[11:58] <twosouls82> :D
[11:59] <wedgeV> cpk2:  can you run several 'aplay'  simultaniously?
[11:59] <wedgeV> cpk2: well, it never worked for me
[11:59] <cpk2> aplay? I can play amarok and kaffeine at the same time
[11:59] <wedgeV> except when using a audigy with 32 playback channels
[11:59] <cpk2> with sound from both
[11:59] <wedgeV> can you try aplay ?
[12:00] <twosouls82> cpk2: aplay does fine
[12:00] <twosouls82> eeeuhm wedgeV I meant
[12:00] <twosouls82> :P
[12:01] <wedgeV> hmm
[12:01] <twosouls82> wedgeV: do you get stdout when trying to use the app with no sound?
[12:01] <wedgeV> sound works for me :)
[12:01] <twosouls82> oops big time :D
[12:01] <wedgeV> but i had to setup dmixer for alsa to get multiple apps playing
[12:02] <ukAdamF> Ok here's an easy one :P
[12:02] <twosouls82> :s wtf, I never needed that wedgeV, in years.. why was that?
[12:02] <twosouls82> does it make sence to you?
[12:02] <ukAdamF> Under Gnome, xchat links open in FireFox. Under KDE, they open in Konq.. how can I change that? ;)
[12:03] <wedgeV> twosouls82: maybe all your apps play through artsd
[12:03] <twosouls82> nope, arts is not installed
[12:03] <wedgeV> twosouls82:  cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback
[12:03] <twosouls82> 00-00: VIA 8237 : VIA 8237 : playback 4 : capture 1
[12:03] <twosouls82> 00-01: VIA 8237 : VIA 8237 : playback 1 : capture 1
[12:04] <wedgeV> twosouls82: try playing from more then 4 sources then
[12:04] <twosouls82> hehehe... will try mythtv too
[12:04] <wedgeV> unless dmixer is setup somehow, or you use a audio daemon, it wont work
[12:05] <cpk2> aplay gives me static
[12:05] <cpk2> is there a flag I am supposed to use for mp3s?
[12:05] <cpk2> because -t mp3 didnt work
[12:05] <wedgeV> it only plays wave
[12:05] <twosouls82> cpk2: you will need extra codecs
[12:05] <twosouls82> !mp3
[12:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:06] <wedgeV> do you have mpg123 installed?
[12:06] <cpk2> I have mp3 codecs
[12:06] <cpk2> I play mp3s in amarok
[12:06] <wedgeV> aplay can only play wav
[12:06] <cpk2> wedgeV: the man makes it quite obvious that it plays other formats =P
[12:07] <wedgeV> oh, ok
[12:07] <cpk2> but it looks like it doesnt do mp3 heh
[12:07] <cpk2> wav raw au and something else that i forget
[12:08] <twosouls82> wedgeV: even with 7 apps using sound, the output of 'cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback' doesn't change
[12:08] <twosouls82> and all work fine
[12:08] <wedgeV> twosouls82: hmm...
[12:08] <twosouls82> told you
[12:08] <twosouls82> :)
[12:08] <twosouls82> (sorry)
[12:09] <wedgeV> twosouls82: do you have a /etc/asoundrc
[12:09] <cpk2> ok, i found a wav to play while amarok was going and it worked
[12:10] <twosouls82> wedgeV: no; No such file or directory
[12:10] <wedgeV> or ~/.asoundrc ?
[12:10] <wedgeV> cpk2: what output plugin do you use in amarok?
[12:10] <twosouls82> wedgeV: neither
[12:10] <wedgeV> weird indeed
[12:11] <twosouls82> all works out of the box
[12:11] <cpk2> its on autodetect
[12:11] <cpk2> and i dont have any of those files either
[12:11] <twosouls82> cpk2: use the xine engine to be sure
[12:11] <wedgeV> can you try to set it to use alsa?
[12:11] <cpk2> I am using xine engine and then its on auto
[12:11] <twosouls82> cpk2: you don't need them.. works here, without those, so
[12:12] <wedgeV> try xine and alsa
[12:12] <twosouls82> yup indeed
[12:12] <wedgeV> and try playing aplay when playing with amarok
[12:12] <cpk2> its on xine and alsa and playing, turning on aplay...
[12:12] <cpk2> and 2 streams is no problem
[12:12] <wedgeV> doh
[12:12] <twosouls82> :D and more?
[12:13] <cpk2> i started kaffeine too
[12:13] <cpk2> 3 streams and its fine =P
[12:13] <twosouls82> tattaaa
[12:13] <cpk2> and who knows if gaim and konversation still try to tie up the sound even with the sound on them off
[12:14] <twosouls82> cpk2: use alsa whenever you can instead of 'auto', I mean for all apps... and use xine where possible (better sound and threading)
[12:14] <wedgeV> well, i have no idea how thats working for you
[12:14] <cpk2> well, i never bothered configuring the sound stuff on amarok since it "just worked"
[12:14] <twosouls82> hehe
[12:14] <twosouls82> lazy ass
[12:15] <twosouls82> cpk2: alsa and xine take care of it all, no extra config needed mate
[12:15] <Sharketor> hello
[12:15] <Sharketor> a question for you
[12:15] <twosouls82> lo Sharketor
[12:15] <Sharketor> How can I see the hidden files?
[12:15] <cpk2> well not changing it is even better than having to change from "auto" to "alsa"
[12:15] <cpk2> hehe
[12:16] <Sharketor> ctrl-h doesnt work
[12:16] <cpk2> Sharketor: in konq or on a command line?
[12:16] <twosouls82> cpk2: you have oss too, I assume that is auto
[12:16] <Sharketor> konq
[12:16] <wedgeV> cpk2:  can you /msg me your 'aplay -L' output ?
[12:16] <twosouls82> Sharketor: View -> show hidden files
[12:16] <wedgeV> or use that
[12:16] <wedgeV> http://rafb.net/paste/
[12:18] <Sharketor> ok thanks
[12:18] <cpk2> http://rafb.net/paste/results/phQ6cD18.html
[12:18] <cpk2> its pretty long
[12:18] <twosouls82> later ppl
[12:18] <wedgeV> yep
[12:18] <cpk2> twosouls82: whats the difference between oss and alsa?
[12:18] <wedgeV> you have dmixer configured
[12:19] <cpk2> and how do I find out what auto points to?
[12:19] <cpk2> wedgeV: then I guess ubuntu does do it for you =P
[12:19] <wedgeV> yea
[12:19] <wedgeV> but it doesnt for me
[12:19] <cpk2> because I have no clue how to set up dmixer
[12:20] <cpk2> because in fedora only having one stream pissed me off and I finally tried to fix it and never managed to
[12:20] <cpk2> so when it comes to getting multiple streams I am clueless heh
[12:20] <wedgeV> oh, alsa automatically uses dmix now
[12:20] <wedgeV> hmm
[12:21] <wedgeV> maybe it wasnt working for me because of oss apps
[12:21] <wedgeV> cpk2: can you try running 2 instances of mpg123-oss ?
[12:22] <cpk2> wedgeV: eh?
[12:22] <wedgeV> mpg123-oss <mp3file> & mpg123-oss <othermp3file>
[12:23] <morghanphoenix> Any recomendations for a distro to use on this PII I've got sitting here, Kubuntu isn't going to cut it.
[12:24] <cpk2> i dont have mpg123-oss
[12:24] <wedgeV> ok
[12:26] <cpk2> wedgeV: I hope you can figure out how to get 2 streams =\ i remember only having one was pretty annoying/frustrating for me =(
[12:37] <Dsbeerf> hi someone can help me ? i have two sound card and sometime on reboot it switch card how to select default card ?
[12:38] <zen> why do you have 2 sound cards
[12:39] <Dsbeerf> im a mixer music editor i need i to do some job
[12:40] <zen> cool
[12:41] <zen> well as far as i know you need to do it in root so enable root log in and log into root and then change the sound options
[12:41] <zen> there
[12:54] <berkes> what is the best way to find installed packages ordered by size?
[12:55] <berkes> I want to do some house cleaning and want to remove the largest (unused) packages.
[12:58] <Torched_> just buy a new hard drive
[01:03] <nebi> espaol
[01:04] <Lord_Sandman> re
[01:04] <berkes> Torched_: yea. lets just install everything.
[01:04] <Nickste> hi all
[01:05] <reader> HI
[01:05] <Nickste> Can I do this with my kubuntu desktop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
[01:07] <nebi> como conecto al canal espaol de kubuntu
[01:07] <Nickste> do u have to be registered to post in this channel?
[01:08] <apokryphos> no
[01:08] <apokryphos> Nickste: yes
[01:08] <apokryphos> as in no you don't have to be registered, and yes you can do that with kubuntu
[01:09] <Nickste> ah :)
[01:09] <Nickste> how!?
[01:10] <apokryphos> !xgl
[01:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:10] <Nickste> thank you :)
[01:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hello guys, hope somebody of you can help me understanding this problem with basic networking: at boot time this error shows up ( the system starts correctly anyway ): http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Wsg6Ns42.html can anybody help me understanding how to fix it?
[01:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> here it is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces too: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AVtm0g20.html
[01:19] <ubuntu> no luck with 6.10 installation hangs after language selection
[01:19] <ubuntu> any ideas, the machine was running 6.06 without any problems
[01:20] <Hobbsee> !logs
[01:20] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[01:21] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, instead?
[01:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: here it is the output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/NORLyh31.html
[01:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: what do you think?
[01:24] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: want to pastebin /etc/networking/interfaces?
[01:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> [13:22]  <Tallia1Kubuntu> here it is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces too: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AVtm0g20.html
[01:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: any idea?
[01:27] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, sorry.  that all looks fine
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah, and you know what it is even more weird?
[01:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i go in the networking module with this settings: http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshotos2.png
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i apply them, or if i write directly ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> nothing works
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> while when i go in the wireless setting module and i choose the same settings, everything works fine
[01:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i use dhclient to "refresh" my connection i use to kill all the dhclient processes and then "sudo dhclient eth1 "
[01:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in the case of static ip is "ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>" wrong? considering that is a wireless connection..
[01:32] <ralphben> ello everyone!!
[01:32] <ralphben> anybody has some tricks to speed up the graphics in X when running kubuntu in vmware?
[01:35] <morghanphoenix> x11 libraries or header files could not be found. Make sure x11 development package is installed on your system.
[01:35] <morghanphoenix> What's the package name for x11 development libraries?
[01:36] <sebbar> hello everybody
[01:36] <KrAmMeR> !kmyfirewall
[01:36] <ubotu> kmyfirewall: iptables based firewall configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1214 kB, installed size 4060 kB
[01:36] <crusty> good morning! at least on this side of the world...now on kubuntu need info
[01:37] <sam_> on this side of the world its 2pm
[01:37] <sam_> :D
[01:37] <crusty> sorry! new on cubuntu need help
[01:38] <sebbar> I've got a strange problem on my pc with kubuntu edgy: the master channel of kmix doesn't change the sound volume at all, whereas the PCM channel does. Anybody knows hot to fix this?
[01:38] <crusty> halhallo sam! have you got some time for me?
[01:39] <tn3270> crusty : just ask, someone will jump in hopefully
[01:40] <crusty> ok! i explane the problem anyway
[01:42] <nickste> is there any way to make downloads, from update repositories, multithreaded?
[01:42] <snikker> how can i read a data from ttyS0? i've used minicom but it don't work
[01:45] <nickste> What version of KDE does dapper use?
[01:46] <morghanphoenix> If I just used make on something and want to remove it, how do I?
[01:48] <abattoir> nickste: Dapper shipped w/ KDE 3.5.2