[20:57] <ScottG489> Tidus: Well I guess knowing how to terminate single programs would help. Kinda like the task manager in windows. I usd to end processes all the time that pissed me off
[20:57] <Boohbah> ScottG489: yes login to the console and do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[20:57] <Tidus> GT: if the laptop picks up the wireless from the access point then it should be on the same network segment as your desktop
[20:57] <ScottG489> oh ok thanks i missed that
[20:57] <ardchoille> ASULutzy: not many people know about that REISUB trick
[20:58] <Tidus> ScottG489: in a terminal window, you can try 'killall <programname>
[20:58] <onetinsoldier> yeah... what is REISUB?
[20:58] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: what keys are those? what is reisub and sysrq?
[20:58] <_moro_bana_> I just finished installing Ubuntu on a laptop, cant find my wifi-thigy, where should I look?help
[20:58] <GT> No, no, the access point is used as... I don't really know what it's called, but it just picks up the signal and relays it to the hub.
[20:58] <agampher> sysrq is print screen
[20:58] <ardchoille> onetinsoldier:  alt+sysrq+REISUB can safely reboot the system i case of system-wide freeze
[20:58] <ScottG489> tidus: well the thing is, in windows i was able to go the the task, right click on it to find out which process it was then terminate it. In linux its a little hard determining what the name of the process is
[20:58] <GodfatherofEire> Say, how would I go about changing the import quality of an mp3 in rhythmbox?
[20:59] <Tidus> GT: so it's a simple relay... and how is the 'hub' picking up the wireless signal?
[20:59] <GT> My laptop picks up the signal from a dedicated wireless router.
[20:59] <onetinsoldier> ScottG489: most keyboards have a Prt Scrn/SysRq key up top
[20:59] <c4pt> how would i be able to remap eth1 to wlan0? i am kind of stuck myself.
[20:59] <Tidus> ScottG489: it's always pretty simple to tell what process is froze
[20:59] <ScottG489> onetinsoldier: ahh print screen. ok., what is REISUB?
[20:59] <ScottG489> Tidus: what is that?
[20:59] <GT> The "access point" is wired to the hub. The "access point" picks up the wireless router's signal, and gives internet to the hub.
[20:59] <Tidus> if X freezes up, CTRL+ALT+backspace usually kills your graphical session and restarts the X server
[21:00] <ScottG489> yea ive used that before
[21:00] <GodfatherofEire> ScottG489, basically, its a backup for ctrl alt backspace or ctrl alt f1, only it reboots the whole system (usually)
[21:00] <BobPenguin> Hello guys. I did install ubuntu in some other box but I cant log in. I have google the problem and it seems the thing is the home folder is our of space. So I have booted in rescue mode and opened a command shell. I'm looking for something to erase to make up some space and was thinking about erasing the Examples directory. What command can I use to erase a folder and its contents?
[21:00] <jim_p> what is that wget parameter that sets a download speed cap?
[21:01] <Tidus> GT: ok... it sounds like it should 'just work'
[21:01] <GodfatherofEire> BobPenguin, rm -f
[21:01] <mikulak_> [
[21:01] <ScottG489> GodfatherofEire: Well someone said "alt+sysrq+REISUB", I'm just wondering what the REISUB key is.
[21:01] <mikulak_> p
[21:01] <mikulak_> p
[21:01] <BobPenguin> thanks GodFatherofEire!
[21:01] <FloodBot3> mikulak_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <onetinsoldier> ardchoille: ok, let me be more precise... what is this REISUB key?
[21:01] <mikulak_> opp
[21:01] <GT> How should it "Just work?"
[21:01] <GT> How would I transfer these files the way things are set up now?
[21:01] <GodfatherofEire> ScottG489, its not one key, its a sequence of keys
[21:01] <agampher> i am wondering that as well, ScottG489
[21:01] <mikulak_> i m Polish
[21:02] <ScottG489> lol
[21:02] <Tidus> GT: either through NFS, samba, or scp
[21:02] <agampher> mikulak_, that explains it
[21:02] <agampher> haha
[21:02] <ScottG489> hold on let me try something. ill press alt+sysrq then type REISUB
[21:02] <Tidus> can the two machines access each other through ssh ?
[21:02] <robinpahwa> captainm: it always get stuck somewhere in middle
[21:02] <GT> Tidus: I don't know, I'm not even sure what SSH is yet. =/
[21:02] <onetinsoldier> oh wow! REISUB is a sequence of keys.. how obvious, how in the world could i have missed this!?!?
[21:02] <alfredo0815> jim_p, --limit-rate=20k  , for more see the manual ;)
[21:02] <Tidus> GT: Secure Shell Server
[21:02] <ScottG489> nop lol
[21:03] <agampher> so REISUB is actually R E I S U B?
[21:03] <agampher> haha
[21:03] <ScottG489> no it isnt
[21:03] <ScottG489> i just tried
[21:03] <captainm> robinpahwa: what gets stuck? the install?
[21:03] <GT> Tidus: That doesn't help me.
[21:03] <agampher> haha
[21:03] <ScottG489> ill google it
[21:03] <Tidus> GT: try this on one of the machines. sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:04] <agampher> ScottG489: Holding down Alt and SysRq (which is the Print Screen key) while slowly typing REISUB will get you safely restarted. REISUO will do a shutdown rather than a restart.
[21:04] <onetinsoldier> yes.. everyone knows about Alt+SysRq+REISUB... how could they not know? lol
[21:04] <GT> Tidus: Couldn't i just set up this crossover, which I have some vague idea of how to do? =/
[21:04] <Tidus> then use the other and type this in a terminal: ssh (that machines ip address)
[21:04] <agampher> ScottG489: random googlefu
[21:04] <Tidus> GT: trust me, this would be the easier solution without having to completely hose your network configs
[21:04] <robinpahwa> captainm: yes
[21:04] <agampher> onetinsoldier: lol
[21:04] <robinpahwa> captainm: E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)
[21:05] <agampher> ScottG489: slower this time then
[21:05] <omar> I am trying to install tor in my ubuntu
[21:05] <ardchoille> onetinsoldier: the keys R-E-I-S-U-B
[21:05] <robinpahwa> captainm: this installation of font is creating the installation to get stuck
[21:05] <onetinsoldier> agampher: hehe... :=)
[21:05] <ASULutzy> alt+syseq+REISUB REISUB is a sequence of keys, R-E-I-S-U-B, basically each alt+sysrq+letter is doing something different, the r sets the keyboard to raw input or something, long story short, it sends all processes term, then all processes kill, unmounts the file system, and then reboots, among other things
[21:05] <omar> tor packages is installed
[21:05] <omar> and privoxy also
[21:05] <GT> Tidus: Okay, it's the newest version already...
[21:05] <ScottG489> http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart
[21:05] <ardchoille> ASULutzy: thank you :)
[21:05] <omar> also tor button is installed in firefox
[21:06] <agampher> ScottG489: yeah, thats the link I saw
[21:06] <omar> but tor is not working yet
[21:06] <omar> can you help me please
[21:06] <ScottG489> So I type R-E-I-S-U-B while im holding down alt+prnscrn?
[21:06] <agampher> ScottG489: learn something new everyday
[21:06] <agampher> ScottG489: i suppose, this is new to me
[21:06] <ardchoille> ScottG489: yes, but that is a sort of last resort
[21:06] <ScottG489> Is compiz just for KDE?
[21:07] <Tidus> GT: now open a terminal on the other machine, type this: ssh (ip address of the other computer), push enter
[21:07] <ardchoille> ScottG489: no
[21:07] <Tidus> should ask for your password
[21:07] <ScottG489> ardchoille: trust me i have plenty of last resorts, and im sure that that wont even work most of the time
[21:07] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: You may have to hold down alt+fn+printscreen, depending
[21:07] <onetinsoldier> First thing we have to do though.. is get the kernel to hang on us! now, how to do that.. let's see
[21:07] <robinpahwa> captainm: but package manager shows that ubuntu extras are installed
[21:07] <ScottG489> ok im gonna try it, if i suddenly leave you will know i got it
[21:07] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Yes, that is the last resort, the only time that won't work is if the entire kernel has blown up
[21:07] <agampher> ScottG489: haha
[21:07] <GT> Tidus: ssh: connect to host (IP) port 22: Network is unreachable.
[21:07] <robinpahwa> captainm: Still the same erron on playing
[21:07] <Hangwire> Hey can anyone help me with rtorrent? where do i put the rtorrent.rc file????
[21:07] <BobPenguin> what command can I use to check free disk space?
[21:07] <onetinsoldier> BobPenguin: df -h
[21:07] <Tidus> GT: you sure you installed openssh-server on the other one?
[21:08] <BobPenguin> thanks onetinsoldier!
[21:08] <onetinsoldier> bobber205: yw
[21:08] <Tidus> and restored your network configs to the way they were before?
[21:08] <MrWindex> what's the easiest way to access shared files from a windows xp computer?
[21:08] <GodfatherofEire> Well, anyway, how would I go about changing the CD Import settings on intrepid so that it only rips at say, 128kbps instead of say 192kbps or higher?
[21:08] <GT> Tidus:
[21:08] <GT> Reading package lists... Done
[21:08] <GT> Building dependency tree
[21:08] <GT> Reading state information... Done
[21:08] <GT> openssh-server is already the newest version.
[21:08] <FloodBot3> GT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <GT> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[21:08] <Hangwire> Hey can anyone help me with rtorrent? where do i put the rtorrent.rc file????
[21:08] <robinpahwa> I have intalled ubuntu extras still i could not play Mp3 files - anybody has Idea ?
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> GT: we get feeling of 'being there', lol
[21:09] <omar> what about tor on ubuntu
[21:09] <omar> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[21:09] <GT> onetinsoldier: That's what I was going for.
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> GT: we are right there at your computer with you now...lol
[21:09] <ardchoille> !tor
[21:09] <canthus13> How would i rename my machine?
[21:09] <GodfatherofEire> !mp3
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> GT: haha
[21:09] <ScottG489> Ok yea its not working. holding down alt + printscreen is just opening up a bunch of save screenshot windows
[21:09] <captainm> robinpahwa: try just searching for "mp3" in add/remove and installing the gstreamer package that pops u
[21:09] <ScottG489> typing reisub isnt doing anything
[21:10] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Hold down fn too
[21:10] <agampher> ScottG489: try alt-fn-prn
[21:10] <ScottG489> i did try that
[21:10] <ASULutzy> alt+fn+printscrn+REISUB
[21:10] <ScottG489> i tried like everything
[21:10] <c4pt> how can i remap eth1 to wlan0?
[21:10] <agampher> ScottG489: ah, well, all of your machines are FUBAR
[21:10] <ScottG489> and now fucking print screen windows wont stop poping up
[21:10] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Don't let go of alt+printscreen+sysrq the whole time
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> ScottG489: i'mnot sure, but i think you actually have to have the kernel hang on you first.. that's why i typed the following in earlier...
[21:10] <ASULutzy> !language
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> First thing we have to do though.. is get the kernel to hang on us! now, how to do that.. let's see
[21:11] <agampher> ScottG489: haha, try alt-sysrq-FUBAR
[21:11] <ASULutzy> Don't do that, that doesn't give stuff time to clean up or sync, it'll just reboot once it hits B
[21:11] <ScottG489> well im not holding down alt and printscreen anymore because i have about 20 windows popuped up right now and i cant fucking type
[21:11] <robinpahwa> captainm: its already installed
[21:11] <agampher> it was a joke
[21:12] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: You could always switch to tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1 and put it in from there
[21:12] <captainm> robinpahwa: what are you trying to play the file with?
[21:12] <agampher> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUBAR
[21:12] <BobPenguin> is there a command I can use to clean the trash folder? is there a command I can use to see hidden folders?
[21:12] <robinpahwa> captainm: totem
[21:12] <GT> Tidus: Also, I didn't make any changes to the configurations of the interfaces I usded to connect to this network with.
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> for the meaning of FUBAR watch Saving Private Ryan
[21:12] <agampher> that too
[21:12] <ks3> BobPenguin: In the file manager, type CTRL+H to show hidden files
[21:12] <GT> Tidus: On either of these machines.
[21:13] <dave_> Can somebody please assist me in settting up dual monitors?
[21:13] <captainm> robinpahwa: Have you tried any other files?
[21:13] <dave_> Please pM me to talk privately
[21:13] <dave_> I would greatly appreciate it
[21:13] <robinpahwa> yes many
[21:13] <BobPenguin> thanks ks3, I'm trying to fix a box and I cannot start gnome there, so I'm looking for a command I can use on the command shell
[21:13] <ASULutzy> agampher: I know what it means, I'm saying you shouldn't tell people to push buttons on their keyboard that you don't know what it'll do, even in jest... It'd be like telling  people to rm -rf random stuff and be like LOLJOKE DONT DO IT afterwards, it's just a bad idea
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> dave_: i hear that one tool to help do that is...  grandr
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> !grandr
[21:13] <ks3> BobPenguin: ls -a
[21:13] <ASULutzy> !info grandr
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> !info grandr
[21:13] <agampher> my bad
[21:13] <robinpahwa> captainm: Yes many, First it just played even i place my cursor over them
[21:13] <wyrmul> I am trying to resize an ntfs partition, sda1.  But it has a warning about being unable to read the contents of the file system.  if I mount the partition then gparted can see it just fine but I cannot resize it.  any thoughts?
[21:14] <lianimator> how do I make the default icon size smaller on the desktop?
[21:14] <dave_> Well I've heard that the bet to try is envyng
[21:14] <dave_> That's what most people use
[21:14] <BobPenguin> thanks ks3
[21:14] <GodfatherofEire1> Would somebody give me a hand with changing the import quality of a CD already? Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but my connection dropped
[21:14] <ASULutzy> dave_: If you have an ati or nvidia card you can try using envyng (it's not really for setting up dual monitors, it installs your card's drivers)
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> dave_: now, thats' to install video card drivers, at your won risk
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> own*
[21:15] <dave_> I have two monitors set up, the problem is that they both display the EXACT same thing, mouse, windows, everything
[21:15] <dave_> That's my problem. They both display so I know it should work
[21:15] <robinpahwa> captainm: I installed VLC player, and all the files are working fine there
[21:15] <ASULutzy> dave_: grandr should be able to help you, just uncheck mirror output and drag the monitors apart
[21:15] <deftone7> o.k I can't get the ubuntu live cd installer to recognize any partitions on my hard drive.....any ideas?
[21:15] <ScottG489> oh god help me
[21:15] <omar> plz I have a clear problem with tor
[21:15] <dave_> OK I will
[21:15] <ScottG489> the print screen windows are coming back
[21:15] <onetinsoldier> from what i've heard about envy-ng.. i wouldn't use it
[21:15] <omar> I installed the packages
[21:15] <ScottG489> there are like 30 of them open right now
[21:15] <ScottG489> how do i stop them from cming
[21:15] <omar> packages of tor & Privoxy
[21:16] <GT> ScottG489: Just wait for them to stop, andn close them all. I'm sorry they were messing with you.
[21:16] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Switch to tty1 with ctrl+alt+f1 and then do alt+sysrq+fn+REISUB, that'll reboot ya
[21:16] <omar> and make some modifications and the following
[21:16] <omar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2702743
[21:16] <captainm> robinpahwa: could you try "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3"?
[21:16] <omar> but tor still not working
[21:16] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Or just ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[21:16] <russianwizard> I'm having trouble installing a display driver. When ever I try to run the install script via root terminal it says 'pkginfo' could not be found, but pkginfo is right next to the setup script.
[21:16] <omar> can anybody help me step by step please
[21:16] <ASULutzy> GT: We weren't messing with him, that's a real way to safely restart Linux.
[21:16] <deftone7> anyone know why ubuntu partitioner will not recognize my hard drive or partitions??
[21:16] <five_> how do i drag and drop in virtualbox
[21:17] <ScottG489> GT: yea i kinda figured that.
[21:17] <robinpahwa> captainm: Didn't worked
[21:17] <GT> ASULutzy: I saw "messing with" going on, I'm pretty sure.
[21:17] <omar> no
[21:17] <ScottG489> GT: and i have waited for them to stop coming but then just show up again
[21:18] <ScottG489> GT: is there really any truth to the REISUB thing?
[21:18] <GT> ScottG489: Ctrl+At+Backspace WILL restart X, which would get rid of them.
[21:18] <ASULutzy> GT: alt+sysrq+REISUB is real.
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> yes.. it is real
[21:18] <ASULutzy> GT: Go google linux vulcan nerve pinch or something
[21:18] <GT> ScottG489: Honestly, I'm not sure what REISUB is.
[21:18] <oskar-> of course
[21:18] <dave_> onetinsoldier: How exactly do I use grandr?
[21:18] <ASULutzy> GT: you ought to be, it's the only way to safely restart a Linux box in certain situations
[21:19] <DarkSotM> just do a google for reisub and see
[21:19] <c4pt> !bcm43xx
[21:19] <ASULutzy> dave_: sudo apt-get install grandr && grandr
[21:19] <dave_> I know THAT, how do I configure it for two monitors
[21:19] <rockyrock> I can't boot! I get error 18 with GURB. I have a laptop with Windows and Ubuntu. Today i installed ubuntu 8.10 and i got that error immediately after the installation! So what to do???
[21:19] <deftone7> having trouble installing ubuntu 8.10
[21:19] <ASULutzy> GT, ScottG489: See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[21:20] <Ghoul> lol another fellow with 2 monitor problem
[21:20] <captainm> robinpahwa: The installation didn't work?
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> dave_: i don't know. i would think it would be fairly intuitive though. i hear it ia gui. i would try and help but i'm just a one monitor guy. although, i suppose i could still install it and check it out.
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> ia=is
[21:20] <GT> ScottG489: Just do Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
[21:20] <hatter243> rockyrock, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77042.html
[21:20] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: yes but im only suppose to type that if my system has aparently frozen, not when its functioning normally?
[21:20] <ScottG489> gt: i think its fine now
[21:21] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: Yes
[21:21] <BobPenguin> I need to liberate some space from the main disk using a command line on a freshly superubuntu box. I was thinking about removing Open Office (I could reinstall it later). What command can I use to do that?
[21:21] <ijustam> is there a way to view sound devices from cmd line?
[21:21] <robinpahwa> captainm: I installed the file ... but it didn't helped me in playing my files
[21:21] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: well thanks for the heads up on that one......
[21:21] <Gnea> ijustam: cat /proc/asound/cards
[21:21] <markolonius> hey, i need some help.  i am trying to build qc-usb and it needs the kernel sources to be configured. when i do 'make old config && make prepare it gives me make[1]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'.  Stop.  anyway to get past this?
[21:21] <robinpahwa> captainm: Files are playing with VLC player witout ny errors
[21:21] <onetinsoldier> dave_: ok. i installed it and i now have it running
[21:21] <ijustam> Gnea: but that only gives hardware?
[21:21] <ASULutzy> ScottG489: It's not a normal way to restart, it's for if things break really badly, which is what you were talking about earlier. It's much better than holding the power button, which can potentially cause issues with the hard drive/filesystem
[21:21] <ijustam> is there a way to include software?
[21:21] <ijustam> i, for some reason, have 3 OSS devices
[21:21] <Gnea> ijustam: a soundcard is a piece of hardware.
[21:21] <robinpahwa> captainm: How this mouse over playing of Mp3 files works
[21:22] <Gnea> ijustam: then the cards file will tell you what those 3 devices are
[21:22] <bm> hello
[21:22] <simplenewb> How do I mount my cannon sd600 camera so i can write files to the SD card?
[21:22] <captainm> robinpahwa: robinpahwa are you using xine or gstreamer with totem?
[21:22] <dave_> onetinsoldier: Please use PM
[21:22] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10 I need to detect and mount my digital camera, any help?
[21:22] <ScottG489> ASULutzy: ok well thanks ill try it next time my computer freezes up
[21:23] <ScottG489> Does anyone know if compiz is just for KDE or does it work in GNOME too?
[21:23] <bm> hello any one wanna chat
[21:23] <robinpahwa> captainm: yes i have installed gstreamer
[21:23] <Gnea> simplenewb: probably with libusb - not all of them show up as a mountable device, you need to use something like f-spot or gtkam to talk to the device through libusb
[21:23] <jerre> ScottG489: it works for gnome too
[21:23] <BULLE> bm: asl ?
[21:23] <DarkSotM> compiz should work for all wm
[21:23] <Gnea> !ubuntu | bm
[21:23] <ScottG489> ok
[21:23] <deftone7> Need Help!
[21:23] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10 I need to detect and mount my digital camera, any help?
[21:23] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10 I need to detect and mount my digital camera, any help?
[21:24] <Gnea> !helpme | deftone7
[21:24] <Gnea> !repeat | iShock
[21:24] <BCM43> I have  Powerbook G4 and the fan will not run. It is the same computer mentioned in the first post of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222413. I am having the same problem of the computer shutting down after a lot of work.
[21:24] <iShock> Gnea: Stop spamming the bot?
[21:24] <bm> who wanna chat
[21:24] <iShock> !offtopic | bm
[21:24] <Gnea> iShock: I'm not.
[21:24] <iShock> !offtopic | Gnea
[21:24] <deftone7> Trying to install Ubuntu but the partitioner is not recognizing my unallocated space or my hard drive.
[21:24] <Gnea> iShock: don't play games, now stop that.
[21:25] <iShock> Xubuntu 8.10 I need to detect and mount my digital camera, any help?
[21:25] <sisif> Hello guys. Can somebody please tell whet module I need for this wifi card : "product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] / vendor: Intel Corporation " ? Thanks.
[21:25] <dave_> Can anybody walk me through setting up dual monitors in ubuntu with a radeon x800????????
[21:25] <dave_> please help me
[21:26] <DarkSotM> deftone7: can you use cfdisk or fdisk on it?
[21:26] <deftone7> no i can't DarkSotM
[21:26] <deftone7> i'm on the livecd right now
[21:26] <DarkSotM> do you know the dvice name?
[21:26] <SSilver2k> got a weird question.  i have two gps modules.  one uses the cypress_m8 driver, and now works fine in 8.10.  i can cat ttyUSB0 and get output data no problem.  i bought a new module which uses the FTDI USB-SERIAL driver and dmesg shows it as being attatched to USB0, but i cant cat anything out of it.  sometimes when both ar eplugged in, i will finally get data, but 99% it wont output
[21:26] <oskar-> deftone7, please look at the output of (1) "cat /proc/partitions" (2) "blkid"; is your hard drive shown there?
[21:26] <dave_> Somebody please help me
[21:26] <Gnea> iShock: also, in case you missed it, please see my response to simplenewb above
[21:27] <Gnea> dave_: stop begging.
[21:27] <iShock> It's gone out of the window Gnea, repeat?
[21:27] <dave_> gnea, stop being an ass
[21:27] <sara-> hi is secondlife on ubuntu? its only available for hardy herion
[21:27] <Gnea> !guidelines | dave_
[21:27] <Gnea> dave_: I am?
[21:27] <dave_> Yes, very much so
[21:27] <deftone7> major minor  #blocks  name
[21:27] <deftone7>    7     0    1688300 loop0
[21:27] <robinpahwa> captainm: i have unistalled the gstreamer and reinstalled it
[21:27] <kdub> is there a C library for making http requests out there already?
[21:27] <Gnea> dave_: I beg to differ. please read the guidelines, then ask again.
[21:27] <sara-> !secondlife
[21:27] <robinpahwa> captainm: Still nothing
[21:28] <Calamari> secondlife runs on vrtually any linux
[21:28] <onetinsoldier> dave_: asking for help as if your desperate is ok in my book, but if it's repeated very frequently, then that is annoying
[21:28] <Calamari> although its beta for linux version and not tht stabe
[21:28] <Calamari> *stable
[21:28] <captainm> robinpahwa: last try: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[21:28] <dave_> No, I stand corrected. You just don't have a life of your own so you sit in a chatroom all day kiddie-copping people for breaking minor rules
[21:28] <ASULutzy> dave_: You need the fglrx drivers presumably, though from what I hear the open source radeon drivers are getting better
[21:28] <DarkSotM> deftone7: Is it like /dev/hda or /dev/sda?
[21:28] <ASULutzy> ! patience | dave
[21:28] <dave_> well I've heard envyng is the best
[21:29] <ASULutzy> dave_: Envy just installs the drivers for you. It goes and installs fglrx
[21:29] <BCM43>  I have  Powerbook G4 and the fan will not run. It is the same computer mentioned in the first post of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222413. I am having the same problem of the computer shutting down after a lot of work.
[21:29] <ASULutzy> dave_: Envy has nothing to do with dual monitors.
[21:29] <oskar-> deftone7, look also at the output of "lspci" and "dmesg". maybe you want to pastebin it (please don't paste into the channel)
[21:30] <ASULutzy> dave_: and to be fair, I think system -> administration -> hardware drivers can probably handle installing fglrx as well if not better than envy
[21:30] <GodfatherofEire1> Ok, Now I REALLY need some help, I've been askin for the last half an hour to an hour and I STILL have no response, would somebody PLEASE tell me how I can change the import quality of an MP3?
[21:30] <onetinsoldier> dave_: as far as getting the fglrx divers installed.. i used the following guide, which worked flawlessly except libsdtc++5 doesn't go by that name anymore... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:30] <Gnea> dave_: If you continue to be disrespectful, then perhaps you don't really need help. if envyng works so much better, then you wouldn't be here begging for help.
[21:30] <Gnea> !ati | dave_
[21:30] <rockyrock> during the partitioning level, what is the difference to make a partition at the beginning of the disk or at the end??? Which one to select??
[21:31] <Gnea> GodfatherofEire1: what are you using to import it?
[21:31] <GodfatherofEire1> Gnea: Rhythmbox and or Sound Juicer
[21:31] <deftone7> oskar: doing it right now....be ready
[21:31] <deftone7> lol
[21:31] <GodfatherofEire1> I just need to get the quality down to around 128 - 160kbps
[21:32] <Gnea> GodfatherofEire1: I'm unsure what you're talking about... is this from a stream like last.fm or what?
[21:32] <ASULutzy> GodfatherofEire1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[21:32] <SSilver2k> got a weird question.  i have two gps modules.  one uses the cypress_m8 driver, and now works fine in 8.10.  i can cat ttyUSB0 and get output data no problem.  i bought a new module which uses the FTDI USB-SERIAL driver and dmesg shows it as being attatched to USB0, but i cant cat anything out of it.  sometimes when both ar eplugged in, i will finally get data, but 99% it wont output
[21:32] <oskar-> GodfatherofEire1, sound-juicer, edit, preferences, output format, ....
[21:32] <deftone7> http://pastebin.com/d67d37172
[21:32] <Hangwire>   can someone help me with RTORRENT?
[21:32] <ASULutzy> !ask | Hangwire
[21:33] <GodfatherofEire1> Oskar- it doesnt show what the bitrate actually is
[21:33] <Gnea> oskar-, GodfatherofEire1: rhythmbox doesn't do that.
[21:33] <GodfatherofEire1> Gnea, no, just a CD
[21:33] <ASULutzy> GodfatherofEire1: again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[21:33] <Hangwire> Im having a problem with rtorrent. Ive downloaded the rtorrent.rc, moved it to the home folder, renamed it to .rtorrent.rc and it gives me this error : rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:4: Invalid start of name.
[21:33] <punzada> quick question, when using sed if i would pipe it through a command to eliminate a phrase like normal i know the syntax is s/expression/replacement, but i'm having trouble when the expression is a directory name and i have to replace the entire name say /tux/ in the file, I basically need to remove one or the other of the / to make the directory in the line stay intact
[21:33] <punzada> anyone know the correct syntax for that?
[21:33] <Hangwire> Im having a problem with rtorrent. Ive downloaded the rtorrent.rc, moved it to the home folder, renamed it to .rtorrent.rc and it gives me this error : rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:4: Invalid start of name. Can anyone please help me?
[21:33] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: What's on line 4 of the file?
[21:34] <Cyynic> hey all, I've got a noob question here. When installing from source, if i forgot the 'make' step, how do i uninstall after doing 'make install' so i can try again in the right order?
[21:34] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: nothing, its empty.
[21:34] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: copy the entire file's contents to a pastebin
[21:34] <GodfatherofEire1> ASULutzy, sorry bout that, just tryin to respond to them
[21:34] <Gnea> GodfatherofEire1: oooooooh... I would suggest ripperx then
[21:34] <hatter243> punzada, you can escape slashes that you need to keep in the expression
[21:34] <Hangwire> pastebin?
[21:34] <ASULutzy> !paste | Hangwire
[21:34] <GodfatherofEire1> Gnea, thanks
[21:34] <dennda> Hi. When slightly using the computer, rhytmbox starts stuttering (e.g. when scrolling in firefox). This happens on several performant systems. How can I fix this? I already reniced rhytmbox to -5
[21:34] <punzada> i tried using \ before one of the / but it didn't work any :(
[21:34] <Cool-Nick> I recently installed ubuntu on an older computer with a newer hard drive. I reinstalled ubuntu on a small partition at the beginning of my drive and rebooted to receive the same error.
[21:34] <hatter243> punzada, if you wanted to replace /tux/ with tux you can use s/\/tux\//tux
[21:35] <ASULutzy> dennda: Firefox is being screwy lately, I've noticed it using near 100% CPU for no good reason sometimes
[21:35] <onetinsoldier> punzada: oh, hmmm, that's what i was about to suggest trying
[21:35] <punzada> and if i wanted it totally gone it would be s/\/tux\/// ?
[21:35] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91837/
[21:35] <dennda> ASULutzy: It also happens when fastly switching between workspaces
[21:35] <robinpahwa> captainm: I installed totem with Xine backend .. and now it is working
[21:36] <hatter243> punzada, I'm not an expert, but I believe that is correct
[21:36] <dennda> I mean, even my old crappy winamp on windows me on a *much* slower box did not choke even when the core was melting...
[21:36] <tiyowan> ASULutzy: Firefox has some memory leak problems, unfortunately.
[21:36] <deftone7> oskar-: i don't understand why it's not recognizing my hard drive or the unallocated space i made for ubuntu so i can dual boot vista and ubuntu
[21:36] <BCM43>  I have  Powerbook G4 and the fan will not run. It is the same computer mentioned in the first post of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222413. I am having the same problem of the computer shutting down after a lot of work.
[21:36] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91837/
[21:36] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: if you havent seen it.
[21:37] <hatter243> punzada, if you are still having trouble, a good place to ask again would be #bash as this is not an ubuntu specific problem
[21:37] <captainm> robinpahwa: It should've worked with gstreamer too, weird. At least it's working now.
[21:37] <punzada> yeah figured i'd give here a shot first, thanks :)
[21:37] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: I saw it, don't spam paste... Does your file really have all those extra blank lines?
[21:37] <guntbert> Cyynic: should be no problem, without 'make' there is nothing to 'make install', so I'd just 'make', and then 'make install'
[21:37] <DarkSotM> deftone7: What kind of drive is it IDE, sATA?
[21:37] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: No, not at all. I guess the paste thing put them.
[21:37] <Cyynic> guntbert, oky doke, i'll try again...
[21:37] <robinpahwa> Captainm: whats the difference bw 2 ?
[21:37] <deftone7> SATA DarkSotM
[21:37] <oskar-> deftone7, have you also pastebinned the dmesg output?
[21:38] <ScottG489> i just got compiz but im not sure how to use it
[21:38] <guntbert> Cyynic: btw, don't forget most programs need a 'configure' first :)
[21:38] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: any ideas?
[21:39] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: Weird, I could give you my .rtorrent.rc, but I don't see what's going on with your's, what was the error again? and you're just typing rtorrent into a terminal right?
[21:39]  * CaptainMorgan is the real Capt
[21:39] <iShock> Gnea: F-spot isn't detecting it either.
[21:39] <captainm> robinpahwa: gstreamer and xine do  essentialy the same thing but gstreamer is newer. Xine is a bit more mature though
[21:39] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: Yes, just typing rtorrent into a terminal. rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:4: Invalid start of name.
[21:39] <Cyynic> guntbert, yeah, i've been putzing with ubuntu for a year now, but every attempt at compiling from source has been an utter failure :) i
[21:40] <Gnea> iShock: do you get anything with this command:  tail -f /var/log/syslog  when you plug the camera in?
[21:40] <Calamari> right.... heres my problem.... at uni, i have to go through a proxy. im back home now, and i've reset preferences>proxy and reset proxy settings in synaptis... but still things like transmission get a 407 (proxy auth req)
[21:40] <onetinsoldier> Cyynic: what are you trying to compile?
[21:40] <Cyynic> guntbert, i've ./configure -ed and now sudo make -ed... now for the make install...
[21:40] <redregis> bonjour !
[21:40] <deftone7> oskar-: here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/91840/
[21:41] <DarkSotM> deftone7: hmm... I just tried cfdisking my sATA drive and it wouldn't open (I'm in the liveCD too)  let me see...
[21:41] <Cyynic> guntbert, gnugo - i couldn't find it in the repos, and i've been wanting to figure this compiling thing out :)
[21:41] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: Weird, I guess I can paste mine which I know works and you can edit it however you think is appropriate
[21:41] <rellik> anyone able to give some advice on updating?  I have an old 7.04 I'm trying to bring to 8.10 (following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades), but it just complains that it can't find the repositories
[21:41] <onetinsoldier> Cyynic: roger
[21:41] <Calamari> it also affects wget.... wget says 407 for everything, but i've disabled every trace of proxy setting from the system..... any ideas?
[21:41] <guntbert> Cyynic: 'make' doesn't need sudo, only 'make install'
[21:41] <captainm> Hangwire: ASULutzy: I've had the same problem for a while now. Haven't been able to find a solution
[21:41]  * redregis cherche Français...
[21:41] <BCM43> Linux sucks because the fan won't work on a Powerbook G4
[21:41] <deftone7> DarkSotM: at least i'm not the only one having that problem....any ideas?
[21:41] <Cyynic> guntbert, ah... that's probably what i was doing wrong then huh? :)
[21:41] <Hangwire> ASULutzy, thank you, but I am doing it the right way? renaming it to .rtorrent.rc, moving it to Home?
[21:42] <oskar-> BCM43, powerbooks perhaps suck
[21:42] <Gnea> BCM43: that's not a fault of Linux.
[21:42] <robinpahwa> captainm: well thankyou, you helped me a lot
[21:42] <BCM43> Lol, I know
[21:42] <deftone7> any ideas oskar- ??
[21:42] <BCM43> but still
[21:42] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: and okay, give me yours. might as well try.
[21:42] <Gnea> BCM43: then don't make claimless accussations.
[21:42] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91842/
[21:42] <guntbert> Cyynic: no, nothing wrong, just not necessary, and therefore...
[21:42] <tiyowan> BCM43: What kernel are you using?
[21:42] <pdtpatri1k> hi there deftone7 did it work?
[21:42] <DarkSotM> deftone7:  You might want to try setting up the filesystem with another livecd I'm googling the problem now
[21:42] <pdtpatri1k> deftone7 did it work for ya?
[21:43] <BCM43> Gnea: http://bash.org/?152037
[21:43] <Kuba> hi
[21:43] <Cyynic> guntbert, yeah, but i was neglecting to sudo the make install... it seems to have worked this time. thanks!
[21:43] <Gnea> BCM43: bash.org is not a credible source, and that is offtopic.
[21:43] <iShock> Gnea: It finds the pictures now, but I can't view them.
[21:43] <Kuba> I get a empty list in GDM Face Browser, wtf?
[21:43] <deftone7> DarkSotM: i guess i can try ubuntu hardy live cd
[21:43] <BCM43> Gnea: sorry
[21:43] <guntbert> Cyynic: glad to hear :)
[21:44] <qcjn2> hey , never seen so manyu people in this chat, remember the time to come here
[21:44] <deftone7> just sucks cause my wireless card definitely works with Intrepid
[21:44] <iShock> Gnea: It finds the pictures now, but I can't view them.
[21:44] <Cyynic> guntbert - sweet, this is some kinda linux right of passage isn't it? ;)
[21:44] <Gnea> iShock: what camera is it?
[21:44] <shovi_> how do i turn the bloody keyrings off, or make it stop asking me
[21:44] <oskar-> deftone7, the hard drive is recognized as sda somehow, but maybe not completely
[21:44] <iShock> Gnea: Digital Concepts 89379-Z
[21:45] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: Thank you very very much! Suprisingly it worked!
[21:45] <Gnea> BCM43: eh, that's true to a certain extent, I suppose, but trolling will always come back and bite that person back
[21:45] <deftone7> oskar-: i've tried using gparted with no luck....i've tried resizing the partitionn on vista with no luck....not sure why it's not seeing anything
[21:45] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: glad to hear it, enjoy rtorrent, it's amazing :)
[21:46] <onetinsoldier> Cyynic: i am having trouble finding guntbert on google. where did you get it? sourceforge? btw, gnugo is in the normal repo. don't know why you haven't been able to find it in a repo
[21:46] <actafool> ok i have problems with my screen can someone tell me why my screen flashing periodic like flashgliht ;(
[21:46] <ASULutzy> Hangwire: rtorrent + screen +ssh = ability to manage torrents on  my home server from any computer connected to the internet, it's great
[21:46] <Gnea> iShock: are you using f-spot or something else to try to view the photos?
[21:46] <oskar-> deftone7, did the drive work before with the same computer?
[21:46] <iShock> Gnea, something else. It gives something about 2 SOI markers or something
[21:46] <guntbert> Cyynic: ??, as English is not my first language I have trouble understanding your last statement
[21:46] <DarkSotM> deftone7:  Can you mount the drive allright?
[21:47] <guntbert> onetinsoldier: why would you want to get me? ;-)
[21:47] <deftone7> it's a brand new western digital 320GB Caviar.
[21:47] <actafool> ok my screen blinking ;(
[21:47] <deftone7> it wont see it at all
[21:47] <actafool> can someone help this blinking is so annoyng ;(
[21:47] <Gnea> iShock: well what is 'something else'?
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> guntbert: sorry, i thought he was replying to my question to him earlier when i asked him what he was compiling. thought he was compiling 'guntbert' and 'gnugo'...lol. sorry
[21:48] <Hangwire> ASULutzy: Sounds very nice, and i like CLI programs. Again, thank you.
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> replying*
[21:48] <j_bsdxinu> I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 in two laptops
[21:48] <actafool> ?
[21:49] <iShock> Gnea, uh. . GPicView
[21:49] <robotmonkeys> does updated use /etc/init.d files like sysvinit did?
[21:49] <guntbert> onetinsoldier: np, was just pulling your leg :)
[21:49] <onetinsoldier> guntbert: ok, mind if i compile you then?
[21:49] <ASULutzy> actafool: instead of saying AMG SCREEN FLASH HALP, you could try detailing what kind of hardware you have, what you have tried, what you've done recently that could have possibly started this problem or whether this is a fresh install, etc
[21:50] <j_bsdxinu> I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 in two laptops. The first one when log in connects to Wireless ok, the second asks for a wallet password and there is no docs explaining this :(
[21:50] <Gnea> iShock: try gtkam
[21:50] <actafool> can someone tell me why my screen is blinking..
[21:50] <Gnea> !info gtkam
[21:50] <onetinsoldier> guntbert: sounds kinky.. doesn't it?
[21:50] <burim> hello
[21:50] <guntbert> onetinsoldier: but please don't make me - but thats enough OT by now :)
[21:50] <oskar-> deftone7, does "/dev/sda" show up, if you write "cat /proc/partitions"?
[21:50] <patrik> HI, just tried to install some software with Synaptic and It tells me the software is not authenticated. Do I need to worry? The software should be in the standard repositories.
[21:50] <onetinsoldier> guntbert: lo,. i agree
[21:51] <j_bsdxinu> I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 in two laptops. The first one when log in connects to Wireless ok, the second asks for password before connecting to wireless and there is no docs explaining this :(
[21:51] <hischild> patrik, have you tried to update first?
[21:51] <ardchoille> patrik: have you added 3rd party repos?
[21:51] <burim> im dual booting, xp and ubuntu 8.10, using grub for my boot menu, is it safe to delete my ubuntu partition ? will i still be able to boot xp ?
[21:51] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: Off-topic,  but I couldn't resist. :) You'd need ~10TB for the human memory.
[21:51] <ASULutzy> patrik: That's weird, all the stuff in the official repositories should be good, did you apt-get update first?
[21:51] <deftone7> major minor  #blocks  name
[21:51] <deftone7>    7     0    1688300 loop0
[21:51] <patrik> I have medibuntu but that's it.
[21:51] <deftone7> that's what it shows
[21:51] <markolonius> hey anyone know how to change the gnome launcher to start an applications with a command as i would in the terminal?
[21:52] <ASULutzy> patrik: Yea, medibuntu's packages will complain about that iirc
[21:52] <ardchoille> patrik:  sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[21:52] <hashbrowns> I can't boot to windows xp pro x64 after installing ubuntu 8.10 64-bit version.  After grub starts to load my windows installation, my windows installation says "NTLDR is missing" and I have not choice to but to restart my computer.
[21:52] <patrik> But this is 7zip which I don't think is in the medibuntu repo. I'll try to update. Wait a sec
[21:52] <ardchoille> patrik: and that should be the last time you see that unauthenticated message
[21:53] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: lol. i roger that. and the correct version of Arnold Schwarzenegger for a neural network cpu
[21:53] <iShock> Gnea: It's nothing but solid black ...
[21:53] <Gnea> iShock: and what did syslog have to say about it?
[21:53] <j_bsdxinu> laptop asks for password when connecting to wireless is there a way to disable this
[21:53] <patrik> I found the problem. The mirror I was using was down.
[21:53] <DarkSotM> deftone7:  what is the output of dmesg?
[21:54] <oskar-> deftone7, did you get access to the hard drive in any other way? maybe it is not connected/jumpered/... correctly? is the bios version perhaps too old? (not very likely, but i had this for a quite new, large drive)
[21:54] <tiyowan> j_bsdxinu: That's a bit vague...do you mean it keeps asking you for the password everytime you try to connect?
[21:54] <oskar-> DarkSotM, http://paste.ubuntu.com/91840/
[21:55] <onetinsoldier> !grub | hashbrowns
[21:55] <j_bsdxinu> tiyowan, no, only at login when first connecting to wireless it asks for wallet pass
[21:55] <Gnea> iShock: perhaps it's not supported..
[21:56] <BCM43> I have  Powerbook G4 and the fan will not run. It is the same computer mentioned in the first post of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222413. I am having the same problem of the computer shutting down after a lot of work.
[21:56] <deftone7> oskar-: the jumper settings are in default master
[21:56] <ScottG489> Im kinda having trouble understanding how files work in Linux. I mean I click on a file to "run" it but nothing happens
[21:56] <j_bsdxinu> tiyowan, i know this can be avoided as the second laptop does not do it
[21:56] <tiyowan> BCM43: What kernel are you using?
[21:57] <iShock> Gnea: The resolution was wayyyy too high.. 2***x1*** too big :P
[21:57] <j_bsdxinu> it just connects
[21:57] <jun_> anyone else having difficulty getting LAN working with a gigabyte ex58 mobo?
[21:57] <tiyowan> tiyowan: What version of ubuntu?
[21:57] <tiyowan> oops.
[21:57] <mikethk> aloha.... can someone gief me whole line to start nvidia xconfig in terminal, cause it dosent seem to work
[21:57] <tiyowan> tiyowan: What version of ubuntu?
[21:57] <Gnea> iShock: I didn't think 3.1MP could do that...
[21:57] <iShock> It can.
[21:57] <BCM43> tiyowan: A kernal from a while ago. Perhaps I should update? I'm just not sure if I can keep it cool long enough to update
[21:57] <deftone7> oskar-: as far as motherboard is concerned i took it to the manufacturer and they have the latest bios on it
[21:58] <jun_> ifconfig isn't showing either of my LAN ports
[21:58] <mikethk>  aloha.... can someone gief me whole line to start nvidia xconfig in terminal, cause it dosent seem to work
[21:58] <oskar-> deftone7, ok... i have no further ideas. sorry
[21:58] <hischild> BCM43, you can always get a liveCD, chroot to your env, then update
[21:58] <tiyowan> j_bsdxinu: Sorry, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:58] <BCM43> hischild: I did, it fails even using a live cd
[21:58] <burim> im dual booting xp and ubuntu 8.10, using grub for my boot menu, is it safe to delete my ubuntu partition ? will i still be able to boot xp ?
[21:58] <DarkSotM> deftone7: This drive shows in the bios right?
[21:58] <sisif> Hello guys. Is some one here willing to assist me with installing drivers for a Intel 4965 wifi card ?
[21:58] <tiyowan> BCM43: "A kernel from a while ago" isn't very helpful.
[21:59] <hischild> BCM43, with the kernel you seek?
[21:59] <BCM43> tiyowan: I know, booting it up now to see which one
[21:59] <deftone7> DarkSotM: yes it's there alright
[21:59] <Gnea> BCM43: tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81744
[21:59] <j_bsdxinu> tiyowan, 8.10
[21:59] <deftone7> I can boot vista with no problems
[21:59] <hashbrowns> onetinsoldier: that link didnt help.  GRUB is installed, my windows installation just wont boot.  It spits out "NTLDR is missing" and I have no choice but to restart the computer.
[21:59] <shovi> Hey, whats a good notifier for Gmail???
[21:59] <shovi> and
[21:59] <DarkSotM> deftone7: hmm... give me a minute to look at the output
[21:59] <yans> join #perl
[21:59] <jun_> hi all, i'm finding the wireless connection on my DWA-556 to be unreliable with the ath9k drivers. Any ideas?
[22:00] <Gnea> hashbrowns: fixboot
[22:00] <shovi> Can thunderbird have a tray notifier..? or minimize to tray in linux
[22:00] <oskar-> burim, i would first run the computer from the windows installation cd and do a "fixmbr" (google for it). after that it should boot without grub, and then removing the linux partition is safe
[22:00] <onetinsoldier> hashbrowns: yes.. sorry about the 'incorrect' link
[22:00] <Gnea> shovi: it already does, just minimize it and when you get new email it will notify you like windows messenger does
[22:00] <Ghoul> ok, i'm trying to get 2 monitors working on my laptop; since grandr is useless i've googled around and it seems that i have to manually edit xorg.conf
[22:01] <shovi> Well can i put it in the tray
[22:01] <shovi> like windows
[22:01] <Ghoul> this is my lspci -v output and the vga section:
[22:01] <Ghoul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2fa83d26
[22:01] <hashbrowns> gnea: How do I go about doing that?  My windows install disk doesnt prompt me to push R to enter recovery console.  The only thing on my disk that in anyway resembles a recovery thing is Automated System Recovery.
[22:01] <Ghoul> this is my manual editing of xorg so far:
[22:01] <Ghoul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d15a561e6
[22:01] <Ghoul> .. i'm a bit confused of how to fill in the Driver section!? thus left it with question marks..
[22:01] <Gnea> hashbrowns: XP or Vista?
[22:01] <Ghoul> can a experienced user look at my xorg and see if it's alright before i save it? (and hopefully get the 2 monitors to run! :)
[22:01] <hashbrowns> Gnea: XP pro X64 edition
[22:02] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: please try to make your problem description all on one line
[22:02] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: ok let me fetch and make it in one
[22:02] <brrrrrrrrrrt> Ghoul: hm, reading a xorg.conf file one the fly is no fun... trial and error for you?
[22:02] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: ok, sounds good
[22:03] <Ghoul> this is my lspci -v output and the vga section: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2fa83d26 | this is my manual editing of xorg so far: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d15a561e6 .. i'm a bit confused of how to fill in the Driver section!? thus left it with question marks.. can a experienced user look at my xorg and see if it's alright before i save it? (and hopefully get the 2 monitors to run! :)
[22:03] <Gnea> hashbrowns: ah ok, try #windows
[22:03] <Ghoul> brrrrrrrrrrt: yes, i really dunno what linux is.. i'm googling around :)
[22:03] <BCM43> Gnea: oh, thank you so much. did not see that
[22:03] <BCM43> doing a cleans insatll of debian now
[22:04] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: umm, now i'm not sure about what to fill in the Driver: section and in BusID section
[22:04] <brrrrrrrrrrt> Ghoul: good thing, will keep your braincells alive :)
[22:04] <Ghoul> that is the question basically; how do i determine the correct parameters for driver and bus ID
[22:05] <sisif> Hello guys. Is some one here willing to assist me with installing drivers for a Intel 4965 wifi card ?
[22:05] <brrrrrrrrrrt> sisif: have you found any tutorials/examples yet?
[22:05] <Ghoul> brrrrrrrrrrt: well.. on the one hand yes.. on the other hand i dislike it because i'm wasting my time in such tasks; would be better if i allocate my time more productively
[22:05] <bulio> My sound in ubuntu stopped working
[22:05] <rockyrock> is there a newer kernel than this: 2.6.24-21-generic?
[22:06] <bulio> I have volume turned up, and it was working earlier today
[22:06] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: i wouldn't know anything about dual monitor as far as the xorg.conf file goes. for the driver it simply one line in the device section, like this(except you need the right driver name according to the driver you are using)...           Driver      "fglrx"
[22:06] <Ghoul> things are supposed to just work... ubuntu is still not a ready desktop system for the average joe
[22:06] <archman> bulio: try to restart gdm, or computer
[22:06] <bulio> any idea what might be wrong?
[22:06] <bulio> archman: I fif
[22:06] <bulio> *did
[22:06] <majnoon> !ot
[22:06] <sisif> brrrrrrrrrrt: not really. I`ve been reading the ubuntuforums for almost an hour now, but still nothing.
[22:06] <brrrrrrrrrrt> Ghoul: when it come to xorg.conf the proprietary driver should do most of the work for you,
[22:06] <robin0800> Ghoul: if you can rebout and get into recovery mode you can run Xorg -configure
[22:07] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: how do i determine the driver that i'm using?
[22:07] <bulio> any other suggestions?
[22:07] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: you aren't talking about Ubuntu there.. you are talking about Linux in general.. just an fyi
[22:07] <Ghoul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2fa83d26 !?
[22:07] <brrrrrrrrrrt> sisif: you have not found out what sort of chip your wireless card have?
[22:07] <actafool> ok can anyone help me with my blinking fucking screen
[22:07] <actafool> ops sorry for bad word
[22:07] <actafool> again
[22:07] <archman> bulio: well, i need to think a little...:)
[22:07] <FloodBot3> actafool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: i guess so :) ubuntu/gnu/linux is not ready :))
[22:08] <Ghoul> still fun though :)
[22:08] <ardchoille> Ghoul: please take that elsewhere
[22:08] <sisif> brrrrrrrrrrt: my chipset is a Intel Pro 6945 abn
[22:08] <tiyowan> Ghoul: !ot
[22:08] <Ghoul> ardchoille: true sry
[22:08] <archman> bulio: you checked alsa mixer to see everything is finetuned?
[22:09] <Ghoul> ok, i'll omit the driver line in xorg.. maybe that will work
[22:09] <sisif> brrrrrrrrrrt: i`m not sure what module i need to install. On the other notebook (Dell Inspiron) I had to use ndiwrapper, but that was a BCM chipset
[22:09] <bulio> archman: alsamixer is at 100% volume level
[22:09] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: whether or not it's ready depends on a lot of things. i just installed and it worked for me with no problem, right from the get-go. now, if i wanted hardware accelerated OpenGL, then i had some work to do.
[22:09] <Ghoul> ok, rephrasing my question; how do i determine what device driver i'm using?
[22:10] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: what video card do you have?
[22:10] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: you're right, it works from the get-go :)
[22:10] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: SiS
[22:10] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: omg
[22:10] <Ghoul> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:10] <Ghoul> :)
[22:10] <archman> bulio: system-prefs-sound --- sound playback on autodetect?
[22:11] <bulio> archman: nope
[22:11] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I can start the torrent download! When i press ^6 it gives me command mis-match! Help?
[22:11] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I cant start the torrent download! When i press ^6 it gives me command mis-match! Help?
[22:12] <archman> bulio: try it
[22:12] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: i don't know how much i can help. but lets start by making sure you have this package installed --> xserver-xorg-driver-sis
[22:12] <brrrrrrrrrrt> sisif: can this link help? http://www.google.com/linux?hl=no&q=Intel+4965+wifi&btnG=S%C3%B8k&lr=
[22:12] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone else had files called "New Document.odt" and "New Spreadsheet.ods" show up in ~/Documents/, and if so, how do you get rid of them?
[22:12] <DarkSotM> deftone7: It looks like the livecd has trouble loading sata kernel modules you might need to load them you self
[22:12] <archman> bulio: and test sound in it
[22:12] <Hangwire> alexbobp: why?
[22:13] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I cant start the torrent download! When i press ^6 it gives me command mis-match! Help?
[22:13] <bulio> archman: that was the first thing I tried and it didnt playback any sound on test
[22:13] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: those look like templates for openoffice.org, but I've never seen them show up on any of my 11 Ubuntu systems
[22:13] <n8tuser> tonyyarusso -> rm -rf "New Document.odt"   will not remove them?
[22:13] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: you might want to tweak the "templates" path in oo.o
[22:13] <tonyyarusso> n8tuser: it will, but they come back eventually - not sure what prompts it.
[22:13] <Hangwire> Can anyone help me with rtorrent? I cant start the torrent download! When i press ^6 it gives me command mis-match! Help?
[22:14] <sisif> brrrrrrrrrrt: not really :(
[22:14] <archman> bulio: you tried all of the drivers listed there?
[22:14] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: I haven't tried to make any templates though - any idea what would?
[22:14] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: iirc, oo.o has ~/Documents in the templates path, but you can change that within oo.o prefs
[22:14] <bulio> archman: In the preferences page, yeah
[22:15] <bulio> none worked, and its strange because it worked this morning
[22:15] <brrrrrrrrrrt> sisif: hm, is this not a step by step? http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/iwlwifi
[22:15] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2a2f7ee9
[22:16] <Ghoul> so it is installed somewhere.. :)
[22:16] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: no, it has /home/anthony/.openoffice.org2/user/template.  ~/Documents is the path for "My Documents" only.
[22:16] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: .odt is open document template, it looks like it's keeping copies of the templates in Documents
[22:17] <archman> bulio: i dunno... you tried using jack?
[22:17] <deftone7> DarkSotM: Thank bud now I Know where to go from here. thanks guys
[22:17] <tonyyarusso> ardchoille: and more importantly, regardless of where it puts such things, what kind of nonsense is automatically creating files like this ?
[22:17] <DarkSotM> Glad I could help
[22:17] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: this is one of the reason I don't use that suite ;)
[22:18] <ardchoille> tonyyarusso: gnome-office is in the repos, that may be more to your liking
[22:18] <shovi> how do i make my keyring for Wireless netowkrs in networkmanager become automatic, instead of prompting me everytime i reboot
[22:18] <bulio> archman: whats jack?
[22:18] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: ok, good. now, without even looking, i would guess that your driver line should be... Driver      "sis"
[22:18] <asterix> I installed the official ATI drivers following the instructions here...  http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html   How would I go about uninstalling them?
[22:19] <brrrrrrrrrrt> shovi: hm, sounds dangerous to have the keyring auto open?
[22:19] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: ok, well hmm i thought that i'b be something more exat
[22:19] <archman> bulio: jack is the sound driver just like the alsa or oss you got is; it's used for low latency, i use it in music production
[22:19] <shovi> well i never remember having one before, but now every time i boot into ubuntu it asks me to enter keyring pw.... i wanna get rid of it
[22:19] <Ghoul> well thnx anyways, i'll just try this and reboot
[22:19] <archman> !jack
[22:19] <snikpo> why do I get the Kubuntu Splash when I boot to Gnome?
[22:20] <archman> bulio: maybe wanna try it?
[22:20] <brrrrrrrrrrt> snikpo: because you initially installed kubuntu?
[22:20] <HexFlash> how do i   make all my windows gnome transparent
[22:20] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: you might also want to look at this... http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/SiS2.html
[22:20] <snikpo> even though I select Gnome as default??
[22:20] <bulio> archman: well I'd rather just get a working config like I had before
[22:20] <bulio> thanks for the help
[22:21] <ASULutzy> snikpo: go to system ->administration -> login window
[22:21] <brrrrrrrrrrt> snikpo: try apt-cache search splash |grep screen ?
[22:21] <archman> bulio: sorry then, try to ask again, maybe some expert might help you; also try to check if there is irc channel for the driver you used. you know which you used?
[22:21] <snikpo> whoaaaaaaaaa here lol
[22:21] <hatter243> If I've got a USB external drive that Ubuntu tells me it cannot mount, is it toast?
[22:22] <snikpo> yes, it lists Gnome as "default session"...
[22:22] <DarkSotM> hatter243: Not nessisarly
[22:22] <ASULutzy> hatter243: What exactly does it say about not being able to mount it? If it was just an NTFS drive that wasn't shut down and it's "dirty" you can force a mount
[22:22] <archman> bulio: also, which ubuntu you got?
[22:22] <Cige> So awhile ago I installed ubuntu onto my formerly vista running laptop.
[22:22] <Cige> I kept a partition for vista, but I have only loaded it a few times since the install.
[22:22] <Cige> The problem is that now I have just discovered that the vista partition is missing.
[22:22] <Cige> I'm wondering what could have caused this, and if I can reverse it.
[22:22] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: i just looked it up. i was correct. it should be like like this 'example' --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6e5db6b3
[22:22] <FloodBot3> Cige: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <HexFlash> how can make everything inside a window transparent besides text and pictures and things like that
[22:23] <Cige> sorry about the flood
[22:23] <Gnea> hatter243: or you can install ntfsprogs and fix it from ubuntu
[22:23] <hatter243> ASULutzy, I believe it was an NTFS volume
[22:23] <simplenewb> I have a folder in my home dir that keeps reverting to it's old permissions every time I change them. How can I make my changes perm?
[22:23] <hatter243> ASULutzy, and by mount, I mean double clicking its icon within Computer
[22:23] <snikpo> ASULutzy: what is apt-cache?
[22:24] <archman> bulio: is your audio unmuted in alsa mixer? (that 'sound speaker' icon)
[22:24] <DarkSotM> hatter243: what does it say when you try to mount it?
[22:24] <mosahin> I have a problem with DBDesigner4 on Ubuntu 8.10. It gives the "Unable to load libsqlmy.so " error although I followed the guide  in here and installed the dbExpress driver.
[22:24] <hatter243> "Unable to mount location Can't mount file
[22:24] <ardchoille> snikpo: that's where the package manager puts packages waiting to install
[22:24] <mosahin> forgot the link: http://knightlust.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html
[22:24] <snikpo> ASULutzy: obviously, I don't know what I'm doing or how to do it lol I need GUI I'm a real n00b
[22:25] <HexFlash> how can make everything inside a window transparent besides text and pictures and things like that
[22:25] <archman> bulio: you here, dude?
[22:25] <mosahin> !dbdesigner
[22:25] <ASULutzy> snikpo: I told you
[22:25] <ASULutzy> Click System, then administration, then login window.
[22:25] <guntbert> !repeat | HexFlash
[22:25] <ardchoille> !compiz | HexFlash look into using compiz for transparency
[22:25] <CaneToad> since the recent driver-related updates to 8.10, my audio doesn't work - shows that it is muted and can't unmute it...even a usb phone doesn't work
[22:26] <snikpo> ASULutzy: right, I stated Gnome is set as default... it still boots as Kubuntu
[22:26] <ASULutzy> hatter243: you should do sudo fdisk -l to find the name of the NTFS partition and then mount it using the terminal
[22:26] <Mageiriki-me-bas> gr
[22:26] <CaneToad> could anyone help me troubleshoot audio?  pretty please?
[22:26] <hatter243> ASULutzy, fdisk -l says that it cannot open /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[22:26] <snikpo> isn't there another GUI for Splash screen management that you have to get 3rd party?
[22:26] <ASULutzy> snikpo: Oh, you're talking about your splash, not your login, my mistake
[22:26] <ASULutzy> hatter243: sudo fdisk -l
[22:26] <snikpo> yeah lol
[22:27] <snikpo> now that we're on the right track hehe
[22:27] <Cige> so, what I'm basically wondering is what could cause someone to accidentally eliminate a boot partition.
[22:27] <onetinsoldier> Ghoul: this page i referred you to --> http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/SiS2.html  ...i don't know how well or if any of those options would work, it looks like it from an old version of X11
[22:27] <nat1192> Stupidity?
[22:27] <jun_> Hi all. My wifi connection keeps dropping every so often. ath9k driver, dwa-556 pci card. any ideas?
[22:27] <hatter243> ASULutzy, all that mentions are the /dev/sda partitions that my Ubuntu installation is currently using
[22:28] <ASULutzy> hatter243: Doesn't make mention of any NTFS partitions?
[22:28] <asterix> How do I tell exactly what video drivers my system is using right now?
[22:28] <DarkSotM> hatter243: do you know the device name?
[22:28] <hatter243> ASULutzy, doesn't even mention it.
[22:28] <hatter243> DarkSotM, I assume it would be /dev/sdb, right?
[22:28] <energY_> I CAN HAZ UBUNTUZ?
[22:29] <DarkSotM> hatter243: probobly but I've had usb drive jump names before
[22:29] <ASULutzy> hatter243: If it's a separate hard drive(not just a separate partition), and it's currently plugged in, and sudo fdisk -l doesn't even mention it, that's bad news
[22:29] <Cige> well energY, since it is free you can have as much UBUNTUZ as you want
[22:29] <der|kunstler> how do you make ubuntu's base system to be in a specific language ?, let's say russian or spanish >?
[22:30] <hashbrowns> Installed ubuntu and GRUB.  When trying to boot my windows xp pro x64 installation via grub windows complains about NTLDR is missing.  How do I fix this?  I tried copying the files over via my ubuntu installation but no go.
[22:30] <Gnea> energY_: only if you speax with lowercases.
[22:30] <hatter243> ASULutzy, Yes, it's an external USB harddrive. I figured it was toast as Windows doesn't even acknowledge its existence.  But if i go to ALSA, i get nothing. Any ideas?
[22:30] <der|kunstler> hashbrowns, do you have windows on a partition different than the 1st one ?
[22:30] <DarkSotM> hatter243: does anything show in dmesg when you plug it in?
[22:31] <hatter243> ASULutzy, Additionally, sudo ntfsmount /dev/sdb filas to read bootsector, startup volume, and fails to mount.  Can you remind me it's name?
[22:31] <hashbrowns> derk|kunstler I dont think so.
[22:31] <ardchoille> !language | feitingen
[22:31] <Cige> The vista partition on my laptop disappeared about a few months after I installed ubuntu, what could have unwittingly caused this
[22:31] <der|kunstler> ardchoille, any ideas on how to make ubuntu on a specific language ?
[22:31] <CaneToad> Cige - disappeared?
[22:31] <c0p3rn1c> Cige: self-distruct ? :)
[22:32] <hatter243> DarkSotM, Device not ready and then a half dozen "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0-3
[22:32] <CaneToad> Cige have you looked at the partition table of the drive?
[22:32] <Cige> well, when I try to load it, it tells me the partition does not exist, but it still shows un in GRUB.
[22:32] <der|kunstler> When you boot from the livecd, you choose the language, and the core system is in that language, how do you add languages after it is installed, by any chance anybody knows ?
[22:32] <asterix> c0p3rn1c: I'm just a little confused because I installed the official driver from their website but then I went to enable the desktop effects and it prompted me to enable some other driver which I did.  Now it seems like the desktop is a little choppy even with the effects turned off.
[22:32] <feitingen> ardchoille: pidgin is segfaulting, which in itself is insanely bad, and in the season when communicatin with the family is important, you guys fail me. Bad Job.
[22:32] <Cige> i mean in GRUB
[22:32] <DarkSotM> hatter243: That's not good
[22:33] <der|kunstler> feitingen, backup the ~/.purple dir, erase and run pidgin again
[22:33] <Cige> the partition editor in Ubuntu says that it is unassigned
[22:33] <hatter243> DarkSotM, rofl, dead. I'm going to try the freezer trick as the long shot. But I bet it's toast
[22:33] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: what kind of videocard do you have ?
[22:33] <asterix> radeon 4870
[22:33] <ardchoille> feitingen: it would be more beneficial to ask how to fix a problem rather than blaming the package maintainers; pidgin works great here so it's not the maintainers' fault.
[22:33] <DarkSotM> hatter243: Ya, good luck
[22:33] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: what is "their website"?
[22:33] <CaneToad> Cige are ubuntu and windows on the same drive?  what partition numbers?
[22:33] <asterix> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html
[22:33] <onetinsoldier> guest_: hmmm, i don't know.. maybe these? autocutsel glipper
[22:33] <hatter243> DarkSotM, ASULutzy, thanks for your help!
[22:33] <Gnea> hatter243: are you plugging into a usb hub or straight into a usb port on the computer?
[22:33] <DarkSotM> no prob
[22:34] <hashbrowns> Installed ubuntu and GRUB.  When trying to boot my windows xp pro x64 installation via grub windows complains about NTLDR is missing.  How do I fix this?  I tried copying the files over via my ubuntu installation but no go.  #Windows couldn't help me.
[22:34] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: you're supposed to install ubuntu driver packages
[22:34] <hatter243> Gnea, two USB jacks into the computer
[22:34] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: at least that it's how it is with nvidia
[22:34] <Gnea> hatter243: hrmm... got a different usb cord to try with?
[22:34] <c0p3rn1c> !ati
[22:34] <CaneToad> Cige then compare with /boot/grub/menu.lst on ubuntu
[22:34] <asterix> c0p3rn1c: I tried the ubuntu drivers but they didn't seem to be working well in Wine so I wanted to try other options for troubleshooting purposes
[22:34] <feitingen> ardchoille: if the solution has to do with the settings i have made in .whateverdir it should be carried on/translated/whatever to the next version. this is the responsibility the package maintainers should take care of.
[22:35] <der|kunstler> ubottu, hi :P
[22:35] <hatter243> Gnea, that would require a different external enclosure. I'm not certain I have anymore of those around
[22:35] <Cige> CaneToad, they are both on the same drive, I'm not quite sure what you mean by partition numbers though
[22:35] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: did you try the binary drivers?
[22:35] <Gnea> hatter243: o.O oh my... i'm used to the kind where the usb cable is detachable
[22:35] <c0p3rn1c> from ubuntu
[22:35] <Kar1na> join #ubuntu-es
[22:36] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: because you have the open source drivers and the propitary binary drivers
[22:36] <Gnea> hatter243: do you have another system you could test it on?
[22:36] <asterix> c0p3rn1c: I did try whatever drivers that EnvyNG downloaded and they seemed to work the best.  Now I'm just curious how to completely get rid of the official ATI drivers since there's no uninstall info on their website.
[22:36] <rebel_kid> im looking for a new web cam but i dont want to spend hours compiling drivers because the darn thing throws a fit at ubuntu. anyone have any brand names or models/series that wont throw a fit when being used on a linux computer
[22:36] <CaneToad> Cige you familiar with using fdisk -l /dev/.... where .... is the drive, to report the partition table?
[22:36] <onetinsoldier> asterix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:36] <DarkSotM> hatter243: Just to let you know, that mesg in dmesg is what my ipod did just before it died
[22:36] <hatter243> Gnea, errors seem about the same in Fedora Core 3 and Windows completely fails to recognize it past "Your device is ready to use"
[22:36] <buttercups> asterix, remove xorg-driver-fglrx,  fglrx-kernel-source,  fglrx-amdcccle in Synaptic.
[22:37] <rww> rebel_kid: cross-reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras and http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/cameras
[22:37] <Gnea> hatter243: what about the internal connection to the drive itself? tried reseating the cable?
[22:37] <rebel_kid> rww, thank you :)
[22:37] <onetinsoldier> asterix: never mind that link if you got a good install of the fglrx driver
[22:37] <c0p3rn1c> asterix: I don't know with ati
[22:37] <Cige> uh, I am not familiar with that, I'll try to run it
[22:37] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ?
[22:37] <hatter243> DarkSotM, yeah, I figured it was dead just from the sheer amount of vibration it's giving off. Additionally, I haven't heard a head click any of the times I've plugged it in
[22:37] <hatter243> Gnea, Yessir
[22:37] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I saw that page before and that's no info on uninstalling
[22:38] <asterix> buttercups: I'll try that out and see what happens
[22:38] <DarkSotM> hatter243: lol
[22:38] <onetinsoldier> asterix: never mind that link if you got a good install of the fglrx driver
[22:38] <devilbad> hi i am not able to configure wireless in ubuntu i have compaq c773tu laptop
[22:38] <asterix> onetinsoldier: how would I be sure my fglrx driver is a good install?
[22:38] <Gnea> hatter243: i have also discovered that blank portions of a wall make a good place to insert nails in order to hang the carcasses of dead hard drives on, with their top plates removed to expose the disks themselves in a shiny manner :)
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> asterix: that's all you need. there's is no need to uninstall generic video driver in linux, nor in windows for that matter.
[22:39] <Quadrescence> is "gnome-desktop-environment" just a 'pseudo-package'?
[22:39] <hatter243> Gnea, I like using them as spinner art. 7200rpms make some might pretty pictures
[22:39] <Cige>  I have to go, I'll try to solve it later, thanks for the help
[22:39] <rww> Quadrescence: yes
[22:39] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ?
[22:39] <onetinsoldier> asterix: what is the response from the following command...  glxinfo | grep direct
[22:39] <Gnea> hatter243: haven't tried that one yet
[22:40] <hatter243> Gnea, take off the top plate, provide power so the drives start spinning and color away with your favorite dry erase markers
[22:40] <asterix> onetinsoldier: direct rendering: Yes
[22:40] <qcjn> hi, i gotto reinstall ubuntu. hd dead. so on the other hd, i ll use, there's an old window on it. I don't have to erase it, and partion & everything. Ubuntu will do that on install. I'm i right ?
[22:40] <rww> Quadrescence: that particular package depends on the standard GNOME packages
[22:40] <hatter243> Gnea, careful of your fingers though, it'll do quite a bit of damage if they get caught too close to the business end of that platter
[22:40] <devilbad> how to configure wireless in ubuntu
[22:40] <guest_> I am looking for gui utility like input box with caption. so i can ask some values in gui w/o need of console for console script
[22:40] <hashbrowns> Installed ubuntu and GRUB.  When trying to boot my windows xp pro x64 installation via grub windows complains about NTLDR is missing.  How do I fix this?  I tried copying the files over via my ubuntu installation but no go.  #Windows couldn't help me.
[22:40] <Quadrescence> rww: I am just installing some gnome stuff, and I don't want to uninstall gnome
[22:40] <Gnea> hatter243: oh... i was thinking more along the lines of wearing skin and face protection while letting paint drip from a brush
[22:41] <Quadrescence> rww: err, uninstalling*
[22:41] <hatter243> Gnea, I did not even think of that
[22:41] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, you are good to go.
[22:41] <hatter243> Gnea, brilliant! I'm going home to decorate the house
[22:41] <Gnea> lol
[22:41] <rww> Quadrescence: Removing the gnome-desktop-environment package won't uninstall any programs or any parts of GNOME. Removing the packages that it depends on will remove various parts. If you don't want those parts, then that's okay.
[22:41] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ?
[22:42] <Quadrescence> rww: Alright, thanks.
[22:42] <buntoaster> What is a good video decoder or encoder how ever you say it ,to change .flv to .mpg or some thing like that for ubuntu?
[22:42] <Gnea> buntoaster: ffmpeg
[22:42] <exodus_ms> !mencoder
[22:42] <onetinsoldier> asterix: i have been looking for a way to tell what version of the flgrx driver you have though.. i'm having trouble finding that
[22:42] <ardchoille> buntoaster: ffmpeg
[22:43] <karlbrun> Hey does anyone know how to start a program automatically after resuming from suspend?
[22:43] <buntoaster> ffmpeg the name of it?
[22:43] <ardchoille> buntoaster:  http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/Linux/VariousCommands
[22:43] <buttercups> onetinsoldier, its fglrxinfo
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> asterix: but you do have hardarwe accelerated X and OpenGL right now tho. you're good to go
[22:43] <Gnea> !info ffmpeg
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> buttercups: i don't think i have that command
[22:43] <devilbad> hey can anyone guide me to configure wireless connection in ubuntu
[22:43] <onetinsoldier> buttercups: i think that's old
[22:44] <onetinsoldier> buttercups: yep, that's outdated
[22:44] <rww> devilbad: paste the output from lspci and lsusb to paste.ubuntu.com, please. We need to know exactly which wifi card chipset you have.
[22:44] <buntoaster> TY all :)
[22:44] <buntoaster> mery cristmas....
[22:44] <hashbrowns> Installed ubuntu and GRUB.  When trying to boot my windows xp pro x64 installation via grub windows complains about NTLDR is missing.  How do I fix this?  I tried copying the files over via my ubuntu installation but no go.  #Windows couldn't help me.
[22:44] <devilbad> i have intel 965 motherboard on laptop
[22:44] <bj_> hi, is it ok to ask questions regarding to wine in here?
[22:44] <Koordin> hi i have an annoying problem : i have to type 'sudo dhclient' in order to connect to internet and i have to retype it every minute in order not to be disconnected ; i'm on wifi ; does someone have an idea ?
[22:45] <rww> bj_: if it's about getting wine to work with ubuntu, then ask here. if it's about wine itself, ask in #winehq
[22:45] <devilbad> hi koordin can you tell me how to configure wi fi in ubuntu
[22:45] <Gnea> hashbrowns: #windows couldn't help you resotre NTLDR?
[22:45] <bj_> rww - thanks ill try there first
[22:45] <Gnea> *restore
[22:46] <buttercups> onetinsoldier, really?  shows the ati version for me in 8.10 or I'm missing something
[22:46] <rww> devilbad: output of lspci and lsusb to paste.ubuntu.com. Motherboard type doesn't tell us what wifi chipset you're using.
[22:46] <samd> anyone have experience with ettercap-gtk? it freezes on me when selecting the network interface
[22:46] <Nick_is_my_name> is there any advantage in upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10?
[22:46] <hashbrowns> Gnea: No.  They gave up because my windows disk doesnt prompt me to push r for recovery console and I did it manually via ubuntu but it didnt work.
[22:47] <RizR> How do I  change entries in places tab of gnome-main-menu?
[22:47] <ardchoille> Nick_is_my_name: 8.04 is a LTA release, so there's an advantage in staying with 8.04
[22:47] <onetinsoldier> asterix: hello.. still here?
[22:47] <ardchoille> s/LTA/LTS/
[22:47] <rww> Nick_is_my_name: Are you having any problems with 8.04? Are there any software upgrades you need in 8.10? If not, then no.
[22:47] <tristan_> RizR: right click the GNOME menu click edit menus
[22:47] <RizR> cannot find anything in /usr/share/gnome-main-menu or ~/.local/share/gnome-main-menu
[22:47] <Gnea> hashbrowns: ....
[22:48] <Kar1na> I need driver for scan D646u.. but I don't find :S.
[22:48] <RizR> tritan_: its in places tab. it doesn't have any such option. that option only works for applications
[22:48] <hashbrowns> Gnea: yes?
[22:48] <Kar1na> someone knows where to find it?
[22:48] <asterix> onetinesoldier: yeah, sorry missed your earlier msg....
[22:49] <shovi> guys how do i Unlock or delete my keyring for nw-manager... it asks me to reenter password every time i go into gnome...
[22:49] <bj_> I have a question, I have a ati video card, in windows the s-video out works fine, in ubuntu s-video works, except for video files where it does not display the video portion of the screen, would wine allow me to have video work properly?
[22:49] <Kidfork> how do you enlarge images in gimp?
[22:49] <onetinsoldier> buttercups: hhmmm, interesting. i installed the fglrx 8.12 driver according to this guide, and after that i installed all the packages except for libamdxvba1, and i don't have that command. i didn't have it with the 8.11 version either.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:50] <asterix> onetinsoldier: yeah I guess I do have opengl because the highest level of desktop acceleration does work
[22:50] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.,. try this command and what do you get?   dpkg -l '*fglrx*' | awk '/^ii/ {print $3}'
[22:50] <DarkSotM> bj_: I highly dout it
[22:50] <akakaka> sa
[22:50] <tiyowan> asterix: glxinfo | grep direct will confirm opengl availability.
[22:50] <kalel> !IT
[22:50] <kalel> /J #UBUNTU-IT
[22:51] <asterix> onetinsolderi: that gives me 2:8.543-0ubuntu4
[22:51] <asterix> 2:8.543-0ubuntu4
[22:51] <asterix> 2:8.543-0ubuntu4
[22:51] <asterix> 2:8.543-0ubuntu4
[22:51] <FloodBot3> asterix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: i already had him do that.. he has it
[22:51] <kalel> /J #ubuntu-it
[22:51] <Joel_> hi, i need help with wireless on my dell e1505 with hardy heron on it that doesn't currently have internet connection on it
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> asterix: hehe.. just one line would have been fine since they're all the same. :-P
[22:51] <shovi> guys how do i Unlock or delete my keyring for nw-manager... it asks me to reenter password every time i go into gnome... its annoying
[22:52] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: What's the problem that he's having? I missed it.
[22:52] <asterix> onetinsoldier: heh... I realized after I hit enter
[22:52] <liammonahan> "User" is appended to my username when it is displayed in the upper right-hand corner.  HOw do I fix that?
[22:52] <onetinsoldier> asterix: you have a slightly older version than the lastest this is available, possibly somewhat older
[22:52] <rww> Joel_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[22:52] <asterix> onetinsoldier: that's strange because I downloaded from ATI today
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> asterix: yeah.. i think that is a little outdated
[22:53] <hashbrowns> Gnea: So do you have any idea of what I need to do to get this working>
[22:53] <rww> Joel_: though you'll need to get it online somehow to make that guide work. Ethernet, maybe?
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: nothing actually. he just wanted to know what version he has installed
[22:53] <Fiskah_> I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu desktop. When I choose "use whole disk" under the partition screen it does nothing. Therefore I click manual. Can anyone tell me which partitions I have to create for it to work?
[22:53] <guest_> Do you know an utility to prompt user input in gui? It IS in ubuntu default distro. Can't find ((
[22:53] <Gnea> hashbrowns: have you tried going through the installation phase and repairing it that way?
[22:53] <Joel_> hm...
[22:53] <Joel_> access to ethernet is limited
[22:53] <Gnea> hashbrowns: i'm surprized they didn't know about that.
[22:53] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: Roger.
[22:53] <DarkSotM> shovi: goto system menu > Admin > Auth and look around
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> asterix: if you want the lastest version installed.. then i can guide you through it
[22:54] <n8tuser> Fiskah_ -> what happens when you choose manual?
[22:54] <rww> Fiskah_: you only *need* a root ( / ) partition. You probably also want a swap partition. Nice to have but not necessary: /boot and /home
[22:54] <Joel_> any way to transfer files from one computer to another? perhaps by flash drive?
[22:55] <Fiskah_> n8tuser: I get to the screen where I can create partitions
[22:55] <n8tuser> Joel_ -> yes thats one of the several ways
[22:55] <Joel_> ok
[22:55] <Zambezi> Anyone with ASUS P5Q-E? I'm have a terrible problem just installing Ubuntu on the machine. Freezing all the time, won't find the IDE-harddrive etc. How did you solve it?
[22:55] <hashbrowns> Gnea: What do you mean?  My windows disk will go all the way up to where I select the partition I want to install windows to but there is no repair option.
[22:55] <Zambezi> Installing 8.04 server.
[22:55] <n8tuser> Fiskah_ -> okay, now per someones advise, create a /, /home, swap partitions as minimum,  make them like 8gig 20gig+ and 2x rams size respectively
[22:56] <asterix> onetinsoldier: sure, I'd definitely appriciate the help
[22:56] <ilyas> hi all
[22:56] <DarkSotM> hi
[22:56] <ilyas> help me
[22:56] <rww> !anyone | ilyas
[22:56] <ilyas> ?
[22:56] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> what is an ASUS P5Q-E? is that some kind of special mobo? 64bit?
[22:57] <DarkSotM> ilyas: what yer prob?
[22:57] <maboughey> ilyas what do you need help with?
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. it may not be necessary really, but when it comes to the fglrx driver. i reboot. for uninstalling and installing. it used to be needed but i don't know if it is anymore, maybe not. just letting you know
[22:57] <ilyas> i newbiw i just install ubuntu 5 but i want upgrade how can i upgrade
[22:57] <rww> n8tuser: it's an Asus motherboard. http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=2267&l1=3&l2=11&l3=709&l4=0
[22:57] <Gnea> hashbrowns: okay, then you have to actually go through the install process - if all goes well, it should still be able to find the installation and repair it that way
[22:57] <rww> !upgrade | ilyas
[22:58] <onetinsoldier> asterix: are you familiar with the 'dpkg' command at all?
[22:58] <Zambezi> n8tuser: It's a motherboard S775. Here: http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/09/ubuntu-and-asus-p5q-e-motherboard.html That didn't help.
[22:58] <hashbrowns> Gnea: Will I lose my data on my windows  partition?
[22:58] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I've used it before but pretty much just copy and pasting from web sites
[22:58] <rww> ilyas: to be honest, Ubuntu 5.x is very old. You might be better off just reinstalling from an 8.04 or 8.10 CD, rather than upgrading
[22:58] <Gnea> hashbrowns: shouldn't, but if you want to make sure, just mount it in ubuntu and backup
[22:58] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: quick question......is there a fix to get my XFX nForce 750a SLI to work with Ubuntu?
[22:58] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, as long as you are a little familiar with using the terminal we should be ok
[22:59] <DarkSotM> deftone7: off the the top of my head I don't know
[22:59] <rww> ilyas: in addition, 5.x upgrades aren't supported, and I think the packages you need for it might not even be in the repositories any more.
[22:59] <Zambezi> rww: It's not old. It's ancient and unsupported. ;-)
[22:59] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I'm definitely not afraid of the command line :)
[22:59] <ngirard> Hi all. After upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 I can't access my cd writer (formerly /dev/hdd) any longer. Any thoughts ?
[22:59] <maboughey> does anyone know how to remove all pacages on ubuntu server 8.10, so its the base system
[22:59] <onetinsoldier> asterix: this will show you the names of the fglrx driver packages you have installed --> dpkg -l '*fglrx*' | awk '/^ii/ {print $2}'
[22:59] <ikonia> maboughey: define base system?
[22:59] <DarkSotM> Deftone7: thats the mobo chipset right?
[22:59] <Gnea> ngirard: what about /dev/sr0?
[22:59] <ikonia> maboughey: what do you want to remove ?
[22:59] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> its been problematic  with sata drives, from back then, i dont know if it still is,  is that what you are coming up with?
[22:59] <maboughey> basically, remove all installed packages since installing the os
[22:59] <hashbrowns> Gnea: What about the data on my other two drives will they be okay or will there be a risk that I may loose that data as well?
[22:59] <onetinsoldier> asterix: that's what you need to uninstall with the dpkg command..    dpkg --purge    ...each one of those
[23:00] <ngirard> Gnea: Hi, thanks for your feedback. Hmm let me check...
[23:00] <ikonia> maboughey: did you not track what you installed ?
[23:00] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay looks like there's 4 of them...  3 start with fglrx and the third is xorg-driver-fglrx
[23:00] <ikonia> maboughey: there is no "reset to default" button
[23:00] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. uninstall all of them
[23:00] <Gnea> hashbrowns: the process only deals with c:
[23:00] <incubii> bloody CPAN, i cant get Net::SSH::Perl to install corectly :|
[23:00] <hashbrowns> Gnea: okay
[23:00] <maboughey> ikonia, thats what i was afraid of, another question, how do you remove mysql?
[23:01] <ikonia> maboughey: the server or the client ?
[23:01] <maboughey> server
[23:01] <ikonia> maboughey remove the mysql-server package
[23:01] <maboughey> thanks
[23:01] <Zambezi> n8tuser: I'm installing from a IDE/PATA DVD to a IDE/PATA HDD, but it just won't work and when I tried to install from USB-memory it didn't find DVD or any drives (I connected an extra SATA2-drive to see what happened).
[23:01] <n8tuser> maboughey -> umm, some close to reset is  installation of debootstrap, you dont get any packages and i dont you think you can boot much with it anyways..
[23:01] <Joel_> i have another problem with hibernating, it doesn't work, lol
[23:01] <ngirard> Gnea: unfortunately I don't have any /dev/sr0
[23:01] <archman> guys did you experience performance gain setting swapiness level near 0 ?
[23:01] <Fiskah_> "Creation of ext3-filesystem on partition 1 on SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed." - Can it be the harddrive failing?
[23:02] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: yes that's the chipset
[23:02] <ikonia> archman: what ?
[23:02] <Gnea> ngirard: can you pastebin the output of your dmesg command please?
[23:02] <Deftone7> Also running an XFX GeForce 9800GT
[23:02] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay all 4 are purged
[23:02] <[AfterLife]> folks, why are there several linux-irc-channels and no one 'bout windows? Oo
[23:02] <archman> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[23:02] <Deftone7> and 2GB OCZ SLI Edition RAM
[23:02] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> i have not used DVD, i assume they are same as livecd, but if not, you may have to get a livecd cdrom.
[23:02] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, you can reboot if you want.. i'll leave that up to you
[23:03] <asterix> onetinsoldier: it did give a few errors about not removing nonempty folders
[23:03] <maboughey> Is there any command to show all packages installed on server version?
[23:03] <incubii> i got the HTS voices working with Festival last night. damn they are good
[23:03] <Zambezi> n8tuser: I'm installing from a CD-medium, but in a DVD-drive. More clear?
[23:03] <DarkSotM> Deftone7: Is there something spcificly wrong (ie error msg or somethin?)
[23:03] <onetinsoldier> anyone here know if rebooting is need for the flgrx drivers install/uninstall?
[23:03] <asterix> onetinsoldier: should I go and delete all the folders it mentioned?
[23:03] <kinections> does anybodyhere know about what webcams work with skype? i have a couple of webcams that all seem to work with Ekiga, but no skype.
[23:03] <Joel_> i have another problem with hibernating, it doesn't work
[23:04] <ikonia> archman: if you manage your application swap level well you can see a performance gain, you can also kill your system if youset it up wrong
[23:04] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> you are fully booted off of the livecd right? so can you do an fdisk of your drives to see if there are anything on it?
[23:04] <Gnea> kinections: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> asterix: mmm, i don't think would bother. the new driver install might just put them right back in. what dirs did it mention?
[23:04] <asterix> onetinsoldier: the two folders it refers to are /usr/share/ati and /etc/ati
[23:04] <n8tuser> Zambezi -> or run gparted or cfdisk   as root of course
[23:04] <kinections> Gnea: thanks
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> asterix: the new driver will just put them right back
[23:04] <ngirard> Gnea: hmm, looking at dmesg's output, it seems like strange things happened when I tried to plug in a usb hard disk a while ago
[23:04] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: no error messages....i can boot the live cd and even connect with my wireless card. it's just when I go to install from the livecd it doesn't recognize any partitions at all...not even my working fine vista partition.
[23:04] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay rebotting now
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> asterix: so, no
[23:04] <ngirard> Gnea: I might try to reboot & see what happens
[23:05] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, cool see you in a minute
[23:05] <ngirard> Gnea: too bad for the uptime ;-)
[23:05] <Zambezi> n8tuser: It's the Server edition. I'm not going to install X on it at all.
[23:05] <Gnea> ngirard: what are you at?
[23:05] <wiijii> Evening all. Can someone please give me some ideas for transporting SSH private keys? I want to disable password logins, but may need to login from various Linux/XP machines
[23:05] <ngirard> Gnea: sorry ?
[23:05] <Gnea> ngirard: your uptime :)
[23:05] <[AfterLife]> kinections: i've got a build-in webcam and skype works perfectly :D the only problem is the mic..^^
[23:05] <Deftone7> i'm gonna try hardy one more time
[23:05] <ikonia> wiijii: shell script to move keys to an open location then a cron job on every machine that moves keys into place
[23:06] <sisif> Anyone know any good howto for installing a Inte6945 driver ? Thanks !
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: shared /home directories also
[23:06] <ngirard> Gnea: 127 days... not much
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: rsync also
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: is that enough options ?
[23:06] <ngirard> Gnea: thanks for your time, once again. Seeya !
[23:06] <Gnea> ngirard: or you could just install the pastebinit program and save it
[23:06] <wiijii> ikonia I'm not sure what you mean there I'm sorry. Move keys to open location? My private key?
[23:06] <DarkSotM> deftone7: is there a setting in the bios for a compatibility mode for sata or anything that might change how it reports the drive to the os?
[23:06] <Gnea> or not
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: your prive machine should only stay on the client
[23:06] <ikonia> wiijii: if thats your suggestion I suggest shared home dirs or rsync only
[23:07] <Deftone7> yes there is...tons of tweaks with this motherboard
[23:07] <wiijii> ikonia I need my private key to login from a host that is unknown to the server, right?
[23:07] <Deftone7> let me reboot and investigate....brb
[23:07] <ikonia> wiijii: correct
[23:07] <Joel_> does anybody else have a problem with sleep mode or hibernating?
[23:07] <ikonia> Joel_: many people
[23:08] <ikonia> Joel_: there is a reasonable ammount of bugs with it
[23:08] <wiijii> ikonia So without setting up a new private key for that host, how can I safely transport my private key? Say I needed to login from an unfamiliar XP box. Or say, my dad's Linux box
[23:08] <Zambezi> n8tuser: I'm going to try Fedora now. I read on Asus homepage their kernel fixed the bug. The most important thing now is to see everything works fine. The Fedora goes bye bye.
[23:08] <[AfterLife]> i've got, but its cause my swap-part is too small
[23:08] <ikonia> wiijii: shared home dir's from a central location
[23:08] <Joel_> so the best bet is probably to just shut down
[23:08] <wiijii> ikonia Could you give me an example? I'm not sure what you mean
[23:08] <Joel_> ?
[23:09] <snowman> how do i change the GRUB default setting? I was told to look in /boot/grub/menu.lst but now that im in there im stuck
[23:09] <ikonia> wiijii: you have all your machines mounting /home or the users home dir's on windows from a shared central samba/nfs server
[23:09] <ikonia> wiijii: so when you login your home dir with your private key is preseted to every host in your home dir
[23:09] <wiijii> ikonia Ah OK, but what if I'm logging in from a different physical location? Another office, etc?
[23:09] <johnpaul> hello everyone
[23:10] <ikonia> wiijii: you can still have remote home dir's if you set it up
[23:10] <wiijii> ikonia Over what protocol/software?
[23:10] <ikonia> wiijii: over tcp ip networking and samba or nfs as I said
[23:10] <wiijii> ikonia Having remote access to my home dir would pose a new problem
[23:10] <onetinsoldier> asterix: wb
[23:11] <onetinsoldier> asterix: wb, everything ok?
[23:11] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ty...  I'm in generic graphics mode now and my resolution is a little messed up but otherwise it's working
[23:11] <wiijii> ikonia I'm wondering how I can transport my key on my person. I don't want to open up my home dir (with my private key on it)
[23:11] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok... i hear it
[23:11] <ikonia> wiijii: use a usb pen
[23:11] <ikonia> wiijii: and you shouldn't open up your home dir
[23:12] <wiijii> ikonia: Well no... but that was your suggestion, wasn't it? I was thinking USB. But then how to secure the USB, so it can be accessed from Win/Lin?
[23:12] <mylisto> argh...damn webcam and skype!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[23:12] <ikonia> wiijii: I didn't say open up your home dir, your directory permisssions should be 777
[23:12] <ikonia> wiijii: 700 sorry
[23:12] <ikonia> wiijii: and to be honest we are getting beyond the scope of ubuntu now as your getting silly with your security situation,
[23:12] <wiijii> ikonia But it would still be exposed
[23:12] <Gnea> mylisto: please calm down.
[23:12] <ikonia> wiijii: no it wouldn't be exposed, only to your user name
[23:12] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, now go to this web page. only think about it is the name of libstdc++, the version is newer so now it's libstdc++6(although the old 5 is still available)  -->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:13] <mylisto> my bad gnea:
[23:13] <mylisto> Anyhow...I installed gtskfakevideo to get skype working
[23:13] <wiijii> ikonia ... Well yeah, that's what I meant
[23:13] <mylisto> Now I want to uninstall it...
[23:13] <mylisto> just not sure how
[23:13] <Gnea> mylisto: never heard of gtskfakevideo
[23:13] <ikonia> wiijii: how is that a problem, your user HAS to be able to read your key, so what do you expect, how can you read a key without giving JUST your user access to it ?
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> asterix: of course you know where your ati driver file is.. right? and it's name is... ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run  ...correct?
[23:14] <quentusrex_> How do I install the nvidia binary drivers for 8.10? preferably through the command line.
[23:14] <asterix> onetinsoldier: yes, that I the file I got from ATI earlier today
[23:14] <ikonia> quentusrex_: why from the command line
[23:14] <wiijii> ikonia Because the machine that normally carries my private key need not be exposed in any way. There is no need for remote access to it, by my user or anyone else
[23:14] <ikonia> quentusrex_: the system -> administration -> hardware gui will do it
[23:15] <Gnea> mylisto: you mean this? http://code.google.com/p/gstfakevideo/
[23:15] <ikonia> wiijii: how is giving your user only, access to your own home dir exposed ?
[23:15] <mylisto> yeah
[23:15] <quentusrex_> ikonia, because that gui doesn't display the nvidia driver...
[23:15] <Slart> quentusrex_: there are the restricted drivers.. I think that's from gui only.. not sure though.. then there's envy-ng.. that's either command line or gui
[23:15] <wiijii> ikonia: In terms of opening a port for that access
[23:15] <ikonia> wiijii: your user HAS to beable to read the key, so it has to have read access....how is that exposed ?
[23:15] <eugen> co sie dzieje
[23:15] <ikonia> wiijii: then I suggest you get a reality check on security
[23:15] <Gnea> mylisto: i would imagine a simple  make uninstall  would do it
[23:15] <wiijii> ikonia I realise that. But I want to login from another machine, that does not even have my user on it
[23:15] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok...  sudo -i and enter password  ...then,  cd /usr/local ; mkdir ati-fglrx-driver-8-12 ; cd ati-fglrx-driver-8-12   ..then tell me when your there
[23:15] <crimsun> Torgoton: can you take a digital photo of the panic?
[23:15] <Slart> !pl | eugen
[23:16] <eugen> po co tyle gadania
[23:16] <ikonia> wiijii: then you should setup a secure environment with a proper security framework if your that bothered and being that blind to security
[23:16] <Torgoton> crimsun: Sure. Where can I send that?
[23:16] <wiijii> ikonia: Wow...
[23:16] <wiijii> ikonia: I don't think you understand what I'm talking about
[23:16] <ikonia> wiijii: I understand tottally
[23:16] <wiijii> hehe
[23:16] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ok there
[23:16] <crimsun> Torgoton: http://imagebin.ca/
[23:17] <quentusrex_> Why does the System->Hardware Drivers menu not detect my nvidia card?
[23:17] <Torgoton> crimsun: If it helps, I can set up for serial capture too.
[23:18] <crimsun> Torgoton: great, we'll take that route, too, if we need to
[23:18] <wiijii> Does anyone else possibly know how to secure an SSH key on a usb stick? #ssh and #openssh are unresponsive, feel free to direct me somewhere that might be able to help
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, now you just follow the guide that's onthat web page i gave you.. first thing is --> apt-get install dpkg-dev debhelper libstdc++5 dkms build-essential cdbs fakeroot   (although i don't use fakeroot even though i should)
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> asterix: wait
[23:18] <Gnea> wiijii: try the scp command
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> asterix: that should be   libstdc++6
[23:18] <Slart> what's the general "best practices" for handling a firewall with some NAT and a few pretty simple rules.. I'm not to fond of firestarter and it's friends.. I'm thinking of creating a script that sets it all up and running that every now and then.. any better suggestions?
[23:18] <ilyas> sorry i always disconnect
[23:18] <wiijii> Gnea - for USB storage of a SSH key?
[23:19] <Gnea> wiijii: yeah, just scp it to the device
[23:19] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay...  it's downloading now
[23:19] <joeb3_> Slart, tried firewall builder?
[23:19] <Slart> wiijii: "secure" it ? secure it from what? from who?
[23:19] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok. cool.
[23:19] <asterix> onetinsoldier: what does the fakeroot command do?
[23:19] <Ghoul> onetinsoldier: thnx, i took a look but now unecessary :)
[23:19] <Slart> joeb3_: nope.. I'll take a look
[23:19] <wiijii> Gnea: OK. What's the difference between scp and cp in that case then? with a USB stick?
[23:19] <Ghoul> (those sis drivers thingis if you remember)
[23:20] <ilyas> i new has compile kernel 2.6.20 in ubuntu 5 for detect my modem but why modem always disconnect
[23:20] <wiijii> Slart Well I want to carry my SSH key (possibly) so I can login to an SSH server without password logins from places where I don't have a user and privaet key
[23:20] <onetinsoldier> asterix: it's four building(compiling) source code in a faked out root environment(more secure)
[23:20] <onetinsoldier> for*
[23:20] <ikonia> wiijii: a usb key is the only way
[23:20] <Gnea> wiijii: well i took a guess that you wanted the key copied in a secure fashion to the usb stick
[23:20] <wiijii> I realise it's just adding another weakness I suppose, even if the key is password protected etc
[23:20] <ikonia> wiijii: how else can you cary data around
[23:20] <Slart> wiijii: ok.. but if someone else gets your usb key they shouldn't be able to use it?
[23:20] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ok download is complete...  do the next line starting with ./ati now?  any changes I should make?
[23:20] <wiijii> Slart Yes. But I don't know if that's feasible
[23:20] <Ghoul> here's the thing; i restarted with the new settings; upon boot i got an error message saying that screen and graphics card could not be detected correctly (nothing new.. my xorg.conf didn't look like it's gonna work; but then a gui util popped out (looked a bit different than grandr) and it let me select a graphics card and drivers for both the monitors; i guestimated for both and after another restart WOW 2 monitors worked!!
[23:21] <Gnea> wiijii: as long as they don't have the login info, how are they going to use it?
[23:21] <Slart> wiijii: well.. you could always get a huuuge dog.. but technically I would say it will be hard
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> asterix: only where you need to put in the <version>  for that it's,  8.10
[23:21] <wiijii> Gnea - Yes, sorry, I meant that I want to transfer to usb and then protect somehow
[23:21] <wiijii> Slart Heh yeah
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> asterix: iirc... tell me if that doesn't work
[23:21] <ikonia> wiijii: as I said you need a reality check
[23:21] <Torgoton> crimsun: http://imagebin.ca/view/vOGDUyF.html
[23:22] <Ghoul> however, here's where it gets interesting. by default i don't type on qwerty, i type in USA - Colemak layout; but upon the fresh boot with 2 monitors my keyboard layout reverted back to qwerty, i check out in System > Preferences > Keyboard and it says indeed USA - Colemak.. i delete the layout and add the same USA - Colemak and it works, however after the next restart the same problem happens, i'm back to qwerty :/
[23:22] <asterix> onetinsoldier: do I need to put the file from ATI in the folder I created?
[23:22] <wiijii> ikonia: Thankyou for your suggestions, I'm asking someone else now.
[23:22] <edju> Is there a stripped-down version of gnome available?  ubuntu-desktop installs too much.
[23:22] <Slart> wiijii: you could always come up with some way of obscuring the information.. ie have a gazillion different keys on the usb stick and only use a specific one
[23:22] <ikonia> wiijii: as I told you earlier this is offtopic for ubuntu
[23:22] <ikonia> wiijii: we've moved way beyond the topic
[23:22] <onetinsoldier> asterix: yes... either move it there or cpoy it
[23:22] <wiijii> ikonia Why are you talking to me about it then?
[23:23] <wiijii> Slart Yes true, that's a bit unwieldy though. I was just wondering if the passphrase would be checked on XP too
[23:23] <n8tuser> wiijii -> you can create a file using dd on dd, then us mkfs  of the type you like on the usb then mount that a aes or another encryptable scheme, then put files on it, its an encrypted file system..
[23:23] <ikonia> wiijii: I'm not I'm telling you - it's not feasable with your current requirments (as I said earlier) and it's offtopic
[23:23] <tonsofpcs> 8.04 (II), how do I set a static IP and make it so that NetworkManager doesn't try to disconnect and reconnect on login?  [all wired, no wireless, auto-boots after power outages (often), nothing network needs to be user configured]
[23:23] <tonsofpcs> err, 8.10 rather
[23:23] <ilyas> where repository for update my ubuntu 5
[23:23] <onetinsoldier> asterix: i just do stuff like this in /usr/local/src... but you can do it anywhere actually. in your home directory if you want to
[23:23] <crimsun> Torgoton: awesome, thanks
[23:23] <wiijii> n8tuser Then I need the key for that encrypted fs... heh
[23:23] <ikonia> wiijii: this is offtopic, please stop
[23:23] <Ghoul> NOW Question; why does my kbd layout switch ot qwerty after reboot when by default i have only 1 layout USA - Colemak in System > preferences > keyboard > layouts
[23:23] <asterix> onetinsoldier: this is annoying...  I right click the file, navigate to the other folder and then right click to paste but it's greyed out.  It seems like copy and paste is always kinda crazy in linux.
[23:24] <Slart> wiijii: lets face it.. you're carrying the key with you.. either you get a small device that in some way handles the security (something like those bank code thingies) or you use your own brain to do the security.. either way it will get messy
[23:24] <Ghoul> as explained, doesn't really switch it still says 'USA - Colemak' but it's qwerty
[23:24] <onetinsoldier> asterix: and dangit.. i messed that up to.. i told you to go to /usr/local, which is ok, but i meant /usr/local/src
[23:24] <Ghoul> and after removing and adding it again it goes back to colemak
[23:24] <wiijii> Slart Hmmm quite possibly
[23:24] <wiijii> Slart So SSH keys are only really useful from fixed clients
[23:24] <onetinsoldier> asterix: is the file own by root? are you root user when you are trying to move or copy it?
[23:25] <ikonia> wiijii: last request, please stop now
[23:25] <crimsun> Torgoton: sec, cross-referencing something
[23:25] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I'm doing it in the gui and it's giving me permission denied...  give me a sec to do this through the terminal
[23:25] <Slart> wiijii: eh? ssh doesn't care if you're on a fixed client or not.. it's all about wether you can keep the key secure or not
[23:25] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ls -l <file> to see ownership
[23:25] <Torgoton> crimsun: Great. Getting a sip of water myself.
[23:25] <TyGRuS> Hi guys, I am trying to get xulrunner <IP_ADDRESS> but synpatic is showing <IP_ADDRESS> - is there a way to get other version?
[23:25] <wiijii> Slart Heh exactly, hence the problem
[23:25] <Slart> wiijii: you can carry a laptop with you and it will be no more secure than that usb stick.. it's just storage for the key
[23:25] <ilyas> nobody answer
[23:25] <ikonia> Slart: wiijii PLEASE stop this discussion
[23:26] <wiijii> ikonia - There's really no need to be so rude. I'll stop my SSH discussion
[23:26] <ikonia> Slart: this is way beyond scope
[23:26] <ikonia> wiijii: I've asked you 3 times politly - thats not being rude
[23:26] <tonsofpcs> 8.10 (II), how do I set a static IP and make it so that NetworkManager doesn't try to disconnect and reconnect on login?  [all wired, no wireless, auto-boots after power outages (often), nothing network needs to be user configured]
[23:26] <Slart> indeed... I'll stop
[23:26] <wiijii> ikonia Your previous comments also. Cheers anyway
[23:26] <onetinsoldier> asterix: if you do this as the root user in the terminal will won't have any permission problem. just be careful as root user is all. don't go deleting anything you shouldn't be deleting
[23:26] <wiijii> SSH discussion over
[23:26] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> put them in  /etc/network/interfaces    also man interfaces
[23:27] <ilyas> why stop
[23:27] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - i did that,  networkmanager still fights and reconnects them as dhcp
[23:27] <alix_> can i ask wine questions here?
[23:27] <meekatron> hello havin problems with ssh cant connect rsa key has changed but i cant find the /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts file to fix it anyone have any ideas could it be somewhere else
[23:27] <meoblast001> how do you burn a disc from the command line?
[23:27] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> post your /etc/network/interfaces file and lets see
[23:27] <ikonia> meoblast001: cdrecord
[23:27] <mylisto> gnea: I installed gtskfakevideo via terminal
[23:27] <mylisto> how can I uninstall it?
[23:27] <meoblast001> ikonia: k thanx
[23:27] <Gnea> mylisto: yes, but what commands did you use?
[23:27] <mylisto> um...
[23:27] <n8tuser> meekatron -> which side changed?
[23:28] <onetinsoldier> asterix: so, where are you at now?
[23:28] <Gnea> mylisto: try the history command
[23:28] <oskar-> meoblast001, maybe you want to use mkisofs before cdrecord
[23:28] <alix_> sudo apt-get remove "package-name"
[23:28] <mylisto> svn checkout http://blah blah
[23:28] <e-head> Hello.
[23:28] <Gnea> mylisto: yeah, and then you had to compile it, right?
[23:28] <mylisto> yeah
[23:28] <meoblast001> oskar-: i have the ubuntu ISO on my server and would like to burn it to disk on an external cd burner
[23:28] <onetinsoldier> asterix: let me have you move the ati-fglrx-driver-8-12 directory to /usr/local/src
[23:29] <meoblast001> oskar-: what command would i want to use
[23:29] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I've got the file in the folder but ti's giving me command not found
[23:29] <alix_> mylisto: sudo apt-get remove "package-name"
[23:29] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I am in usr/local/src
[23:29] <oskar-> meoblast001, cdrecord file.iso
[23:29] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - pastebin or #flood?
[23:29] <meoblast001> ok thanx
[23:29] <mylisto> alix_: just tried that
[23:29] <mylisto> it can't find gstfakevideo
[23:29] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I also edited the command so it's 8-12-x86 instead of what was on the web page and tried it without the ./ at the beginning
[23:29] <easteregg> hi .. i know how to select the best mirror using the gui, but how would i do it from the command line? i am running ubuntu server.. thanks!
[23:29] <oskar-> meoblast001, perhaps you need options to specify the burning device... cdrecord will tell you
[23:29] <therealnanotube> hey, anyone here using WICD instead of network-manager?
[23:29] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. so you are in /usr/local/src/ati-fglrx-driver-8-12 ??? type in   pwd  to see for sure :-)
[23:30] <Gnea> alix_: gstfakevideo doesn't have any binary packages or builds
[23:30] <meekatron> n8tuser: to be honest i dont know when i connect to the pc from my laptop over lan it is fine but through external ip i get this message
[23:30] <e-head> How can I get rid of the "network monitor" from the notification area so it won't come back again?
[23:30] <alix_> ok
[23:30] <asterix> onetinsoldier: /usr/local/src/ati-fglrx-driver-8-12
[23:30] <norbert79> Evening
[23:30] <tonsofpcs> brb
[23:30] <mylisto> gnea: so it doesn't have any binary packages or builds...
[23:30] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. you changed the name of the .run file?
[23:30] <mylisto> not really sure what that means
[23:31] <alix_> mylisto: have you googled it?
[23:31] <asterix> onetinsoldier:  ./ati-driver-installer-8.12-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/8.10 is the command I ran
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> ok.. what happend?
[23:31] <therealnanotube> e-head: network monitor, or network manager?
[23:31] <e-head> NetworkManager
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> asterix:  ok.. what happend?
[23:32] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run is the filename when I do ls
[23:32] <nat2610> I don't know where I pressed or what I did but basically now, the numeric pad on my keyboard control the mouse , how do I go back to normal ?
[23:32] <meekatron> n8tuser: i got it sorted the known_hosts file was on the laptop just deleted it and all fine
[23:32] <Joel_> hey, i have a question about the dell 1505 wireless tutorial, hasn't ndiswrapper been updated since?... a lot?
[23:32] <asterix> onetinsoldier: -bash: ./ati-driver-installer-8.12-x86.x86_64.run: No such file or directory
[23:32] <e-head> I take it that it gets automatically started with my gnome session somehow.
[23:32] <crimsun> Torgoton: please try booting with noreplace-paravirt appended to the kernel command line
[23:33] <Torgoton> crimsun: oooh. OK. Will take a bit.
[23:33] <mosiac> so ive been reading the man files but im having a little trouble with giving my user permission to access a microsd card
[23:33] <therealnanotube> e-head: in system -> preferences -> sessions, you can uncheck it. it will be called something obvious (i forget what, and i uninstalled it in favor of WICD, so don't have that entry anymore)
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. you need to make the file an executable..   chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.12-x86.x86_64.run
[23:33] <alix_> Am I allowed to ask questions about Wine here?
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> asterix: then try again
[23:33] <psymon119> i hope someone can help me
[23:33] <therealnanotube> alix_: don't see why not. :)
[23:33] <meoblast001> oskar-: it cant figure out which one is the write drive... and i dont know how to specify
[23:33] <Torgoton> crimsun: Starting...
[23:34] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay it's generating a package now
[23:34] <psymon119> i just installed 8.10 x64 and when i run ubuntu, the screen goes black, then comes back to normal
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok! cool
[23:34] <Torgoton> crimsun: MUCH better so far!
[23:34] <psymon119> i've installed 8.04 in the past with the same problem
[23:34] <alix_> would it still work if i replaced the cmd.exe in wine with my own cmd.exe?
[23:34] <danand> alix_: #wine-hq??
[23:34] <maboughey> is there a apt-get command to show all installed packages?
[23:34] <psymon119> however, i had fiesty fawn before that and it worked fine
[23:34] <DarkSotM> mosiac: try adding user(or users forget which) to the fstab entry
[23:34] <danand> maboughey: dpkg -l
[23:34] <maboughey> thanks
[23:35] <Joel_> hey, i have a question about the dell 1505 wireless tutorial, hasn't ndiswrapper been updated since?... a lot?
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> asterix: when it's all done.. you can do...   ls   ...and you'll see all the packages it built that you can choose to install
[23:35] <psymon119> any ideas?
[23:35] <BCM43> when running startx on a Powerbook G4 I get the error "VGE(0): V_BIOS address 0x55580 out of range. It does not start.
[23:35] <asterix> onetinsoldier: it looks like it made 6 deb packages
[23:35] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser http://paste.ubuntu.com/91885/
[23:35] <e-head> therealnanotube: thanks. found it.
[23:35] <alix_> #wine-hq
[23:35] <der|kunstler> any good remote assistance in ubuntu that doesn't require the user to forward ports ?
[23:35] <therealnanotube> e-head: cool. :)
[23:36] <Torgoton> crimsun: Still going, so that was very helpful. Googling that param shows lots of people having similar-ish issue. Do you have a link for an explanation of what that option does, please?
[23:36] <therealnanotube> alix_: type "/join #wine-hq" (withotu quotes) to join the channel
[23:36] <cr4shc0de> hey
[23:36] <psymon119> my screen goes black and comes back on, can someone help?
[23:36] <psymon119> it doesnt' turn my monitor off
[23:36] <psymon119> just goes black
[23:36] <cr4shc0de> Anyone got Ubuntu for eeepc because my sound does not work
[23:36] <mylisto> couldn't find anything on removing gstfakevideo
[23:36] <psymon119> i thought it might be my SLI setup
[23:37] <psymon119> but even turning that off, and even removing a card temp. doesn't fix it
[23:37] <asterix> onetinsoldier: is there a specific one I should double click on to install or just do all of them?
[23:37] <mosiac> DarkSotM: thats a bit more than the level im at right now i know what you mean but i dunno how to do it.
[23:37] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. so did mine. i installed the following, although not all are really needed...  dpkg -i fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-kernel-source* fglrx-modaliases* xorg-driver-fglrx* xorg-driver-fglrx-dev*
[23:38] <cr4shc0de> anyone no how to fix sound on eeepc
[23:38] <DarkSotM> mosiac:  Is there a fstab entry for it?
[23:38] <mosiac> no i have to manually mount it each time
[23:38] <BCM43> when running startx on a Powerbook G4 I get the error "VGE(0): V_BIOS address 0x55580 out of range
[23:38] <Boten_ana> !owner 7976
[23:38] <psymon119> my screen keeps blinking
[23:38] <psymon119> can someone help?
[23:38] <der|kunstler> any remote desktop in ubuntu without port forwarding ?
[23:39] <Boten_ana> !owner7976
[23:39] <asterix> onetinsoldier: the web page instructions says to just install the xord-driver and kernal-source...  if I just do those two and see how things run I should be fine?
[23:39] <psymon119> port forwarding isn't that hard
[23:39] <onetinsoldier> asterix: yes
[23:39] <mosiac> psymon119: what kind of vid card do you have?
[23:39] <psymon119> 9600 GT
[23:39] <psymon119> i have 2, running in sli, i've disabled it though
[23:39] <Adola> Hello!  I'm running xubuntu on a laptop I'm unfamiliar with.  How can I check what kind of video card I have so I can get drivers necassary to increase the low resolution?
[23:39] <psymon119> even taken a card out and it didn't change a thing
[23:39] <psymon119> it's not the SLI
[23:39] <oskar-> meoblast001, "dmesg | grep writer", then "cdrecord dev=/dev/xxx file.iso"
[23:40] <Zelda> Hello All, Im back into action!
[23:40] <onetinsoldier> asterix: oh.. wait. i think you also need...   dpkg -i fglrx-modaliases_8.561-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  !!!
[23:40] <asterix> onetinsoldier: Error! DKMS tree already contains: fglrx-8.561
[23:40] <psymon119> and the card should be compatible
[23:40] <mosiac> psymon119: im just wondering if maybe its the "graphical enhancements" in the newer versions
[23:40] <psymon119> i've disabled them too
[23:40] <der|kunstler> psymon119, well, isn't that hard when you own the router, but when you're on a public place where you don't own the router ? :)
[23:40] <bluntz> BCM43 -  edit your xorg.conf to correct verticle and horiz frequency-
[23:40] <crimsun> Torgoton: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0704.3/3521.html
[23:40] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok,, hang on.. try installing that package i told you that you need.. first
[23:40] <psymon119> der|kunstler, true that, i really dont' know what to tell you
[23:40] <BCM43> bluntz: how?
[23:41] <der|kunstler> psymon119, heh, it's ok :P
[23:41] <onetinsoldier> asterix: or, try installing all three in the same command
[23:41] <BCM43> bluntz: and how would I know what they should be?
[23:41] <bluntz> got to find out correct values first
[23:41] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - see anything wrong?
[23:41] <bluntz> look it up
[23:41] <BCM43> bluntz: ok
[23:41] <bluntz> google is your friend
[23:41] <crimsun> Torgoton: there's also discussion from 2008-08-22, also bug 246067
[23:41] <Joel_> hey, i have a question about the dell 1505 wireless tutorial, hasn't ndiswrapper been updated since?... a lot? and if so, shouldn't there be an updated version of the tutorial?
[23:42] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay I redid the first one after the other one you listed and there were no errors...  now to do the xorg
[23:42] <Torgoton> crimsun: hehe thanks. Very precise, but still not helpful to me. Again, thank you for getting me going. My efforts will be logged here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_a_ThinkPad_750P
[23:42] <tonsofpcs> Joel_ - my 1505 'just worked'
[23:42] <bluntz> get refresh rate while ur @ it
[23:42] <crimsun> Torgoton: ok, thanks
[23:43] <Joel_> really?
[23:43] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, go for it now. i'm glad to see you udate to this version of the driver. that other one you had was too old for a 4870 card... i have a 4850 myself
[23:43] <Adola> I need help with resolution problems.
[23:43] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: o.k it's a motherboard issue
[23:43] <onetinsoldier> update*
[23:43] <psymon119> i guess i'll just have to be ubuntu-less until i can find a solution
[23:43] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay no errors  so now I'll do the aticonfig
[23:43] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> sorry, i stepped out, did you paste anything?
[23:43] <psymon119> i'll check back in an hour or so
[23:43] <BCM43> bluntz: I googled Powerbook 12" horizonatal and vertical frequency and did not find anything
[23:43] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - yup
[23:43] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser http://paste.ubuntu.com/91885/
[23:43] <psymon119> thanks for your help guys
[23:43] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok. sounds good
[23:43] <tonsofpcs> [no problem]
[23:43] <DarkSotM> deftone7: You find out anything?
[23:43] <bluntz> go to mac
[23:43] <bluntz> and check specs
[23:43] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay saved and now to reboot
[23:43] <BCM43> bluntz: ok
[23:43] <Deftone7> I tried open suse 32bit and 64bit, Ubuntu Intrepid and Hardy with the same results
[23:44] <crimsun> Torgoton: essentially, using that boot option disables on-the-fly patching enabling paravirt support
[23:44] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ook. see you in a minute
[23:44] <Deftone7> they're not detecting my sata hard drive on the motherboard
[23:44] <DarkSotM> deftone7: was there any kind of setting in the bios?
[23:44] <Hoxor> hi
[23:44] <ngirard> Gnea: Hi again. Rebooted but no chance: still no cd writer ! Here's my dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/1292671
[23:44] <Gnea> Deftone7: is it some sort of RAID?
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Deftone7 did you try changing the boot parameter with F6 and adding all_generic_ide
[23:45]  * Hoxor has a question
[23:45] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> you wanted it active at boot time?  add  auto eth0  at end of section,  also do not have two interfaces on at same time on same subnet with same ip adress range, your host will get confuse as to which nic to take to the gateway
[23:45] <peaces> anyone know why after i hibernate my computer, and come back the wireless will not work?
[23:45] <bluntz> now if it was me I prolly enter xorg.conf powerbook in google
[23:45] <bluntz> hehe
[23:45] <Deftone7> well DarkSotM, the bios is so deep that i'm sure there might be something that I'm missing
[23:45] <maboughey> peaces what ubuntu are you using
[23:45] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> decide either eth0 or eth1 you will use - one at a time
[23:45] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - i had no problems with that style connection on sarge
[23:45] <peaces> maboughey: intrepid
[23:46] <cmdbbq> i am running 8.04 with rhythmbox 0.11.5 and i want to add a podcast, however when i attempt to do so no error is produced, but no podcast is added to the displayed list
[23:46] <Hoxor> does anybody know why my screen turns black after starting wolfenstein enemy territory?
[23:46] <DarkSotM> deftone7: try what Jack_Sparrow says add all_generic_ide
[23:46] <Hoxor> or warsow
[23:46] <Hoxor> and some other progs
[23:46] <tonsofpcs> for now i'll kill it though, as the second nic isn't currently attached
[23:46] <ocRob> whoa wolfenstein
[23:46] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> well you will with ubuntu, am surprised your sarge is not confused, with two paths to same gateway
[23:46] <maboughey> peaces: what wireless model are you using?
[23:46] <harry> I cant get my taskbar panel icons to go where I want them..
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Deftone7 and there is probably a bios option to treat sata as ide
[23:47] <Deftone7> check it out http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1801_5.html
[23:47] <Gnea> ngirard: check the cabling? get a new cable? does it power up? can you eject it manually?
[23:47] <Deftone7> is there something there that i'm missing?
[23:47] <Guest74210> I cant get my taskbar panel icons to go where I want them.
[23:47] <DarkSotM> deftone7: let me see...
[23:47] <peaces> maboughey: Atheros AR242x
[23:47] <trifecta> hi
[23:47] <Deftone7> honestly this is a new build so I'm new to the world of the depth that this motherboard has
[23:48] <bluntz> guest uncheck align desktop
[23:48] <bluntz> hehe
[23:48] <ngirard> Gnea: all these are good advices, but I checked em all already :-/
[23:48] <trifecta> I'v got a question
[23:48] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - it was fine with it, i think it actually was load balanced and fallover on fail... forget the exact settings, that machine died [and is why i bought the one in question here].  BRB, rebooting
[23:48] <Guest74210> bluntz  its not the desktop... its the taskbar
[23:48] <bluntz> yea
[23:48] <trifecta> whenever i run conky in the terminal
[23:48] <bluntz> uncheck lock
[23:48] <maboughey> peaces: have you tried using the linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic package?
[23:48] <trifecta> the cursor just goes to a blank line
[23:49] <trifecta> how can i fix this
[23:49] <trifecta> ?
[23:49] <nbeebo> shoutcast in bmpx isnt working anymore
[23:49] <Guest74210> oh boy...    thx
[23:49] <nbeebo> no stations listed
[23:49] <bluntz> np
[23:49] <peaces> maboughey: yeah i am using that.  But inorder to connect to wireless i have to restart my computer everytime, i can't just suspend or hibernate
[23:49] <Gnea> ngirard: got another drive to test with?
[23:49] <Hoxor> nobody's got an answer for me?
[23:49] <maboughey> peaces can i pm you?
[23:49] <peaces> maboughey: yeah
[23:50] <bluntz> hoxor?
[23:50] <BCM43> bluntz: I can find it
[23:50] <Alastair_> did you configure your hosts file ?
[23:50] <Guest74210> bluntz   they keep going back to where they are
[23:50] <bluntz> rite clik over taskbar
[23:50] <nbeebo> hoxor i guess its graphic cards drivers problem..
[23:50] <Alastair_> aw, sry ^^ this wasn't for here ^^
[23:50] <bluntz> and uncheck lock to
[23:50] <Hoxor> hmm.. thnx
[23:50] <Hoxor> any idea how i can fix it?
[23:50] <Guest74210> I did... then unclick lock widjets
[23:51] <Hoxor> re-install the drivers?
[23:51] <ThomasPettit> does anyone know how i can play video on my ubuntu?
[23:51] <cmdbbq> i cannot get rhythmbox to add a podcast, and when i run it in terminal and attempt to, nothing prints out please help!
[23:51] <Alastair_> add the medibuntu repository and download smplayer
[23:51] <shovi> Ive tried a bunch of stuff, but the network manager still pops up this KEYRING bs everytime i boot into ubuntu. How can i get rid of it and just let it auto connect to wifi??
[23:51] <nbeebo> thomaspettit totem or download vlc
[23:51] <trifecta> so, when I run conky through the terminal, it defaults the terminal cursor to a blank line. How can I get back to my user status?
[23:52] <DarkSotM> deftone7: under Advanced > Onboard Devices there is A SATA Mode select try a diffrent setting in there
[23:52] <briwoo1> ThomasPettit:  google vlc
[23:52] <Guest74210> bluntz    I move them    then they move back\
[23:52] <ThomasPettit> nbeebo ive tried both neither work
[23:52] <bluntz> ok rite clik on desktop and uncheck keep aligned
[23:52] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: okie dokie...brb...let me try it
[23:52] <Alastair_> ThomasPettit, try smplayer...
[23:52] <ngirard> Gnea: unfortunately no. Damn damn damn...
[23:52] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay looks like it's all installed just fine!
[23:52] <trifecta> ???
[23:52] <BCM43> when running startx on a Powerbook G4 I get the error "VGE(0): V_BIOS address 0x55580 out of range. Does anybody know how to fix it?
[23:52] <briwoo1> ThomasPettit: your question is very general.  DVD? Streaming in a browser?
[23:52] <Kidfork> How cna i edit a files permissions through terminal?
[23:53] <Unconfined> Kidfork, chmod and chown