[09:19] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: hehe
[09:19] <osama> This version of Ubuntu Edgy Eft may be pirated, please call Ubuntu to buy a License.
[09:19] <graymer> :))
[09:19] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: cool. But, wrong link? No data there
[09:19] <osama> UGA: Ubuntu Genuine Advantage
[09:19] <FeistyFawn> @lart  osama
[09:19] <rwscold> I am not calling south africa thanks lol
[09:20] <FeistyFawn> @lart  osama
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Click a channel name
[09:20] <apokryphos> whoops, sorry, I didn't notice the parenthesis breaking the url
[09:20] <mnepton> UNGAWA! :: Ubuntu Next Generation Authetication Windows-esque Abomination
[09:20] <elkbuntu> !offtopic
[09:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:20] <totall_6_7> rwscold: i would lol just to say i did ;)
[09:20] <rwscold> haha
[09:21] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: very nice
[09:21] <apokryphos> pretty too 8)
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> :)
[09:21] <feet> hello. how i change the font size for GTK 1.2 apps? thanks in advance
[09:21] <rwscold> you are welcome
[09:22] <ianmacgregor> Has gnucash been ported to GTK2 yet?
[09:22] <Fujitsu> Wha? I'm at number 3 here... Yay.
[09:22] <xipietotec> Anyone know why I'm getting this error? update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386
[09:22] <xipietotec> [: 89: name: unexpected operator
[09:22] <xipietotec> basename: extra operand `of'
[09:22] <xipietotec> Try `basename --help' for more information.
[09:22] <rwscold> wow i should be asleep
[09:22] <rwscold> this is nuts
[09:22] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: thing is, in the hourly statistics no number is given though, eh?
[09:23] <crimsun> xipietotec: ls -l /bin/sh
[09:23] <apokryphos> i.e. so you can see, 8:30 - 945 people, then 8:45 ....
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Yeah, sadly.  Not sure if I can do that or not.
[09:23] <rwscold> Mardarb!
[09:23] <apokryphos> dang
[09:23] <rwscold> Markdarb!
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: If Seveas didn't have to work today he would have gotten that set up.
[09:23] <xipietotec> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-10-23 10:39 /bin/sh -> dash
[09:24] <xipietotec> is the return I get
[09:24] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: I'd give a whack at it but I'm just leaving for a lecture =)
[09:24] <phire_NZ> with the time zones in new zealand I really should stop showing up for releases on time, and instead come a day late
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: I can probably parse it after the fact though still.
[09:24] <mnepton> xipietotec: is this on an Edgy Knot or RC?
[09:25] <elkbuntu> phire_NZ, you could wait with your fellow countrymen in #ubuntu-nz :)
[09:25] <xipietotec> mnepton: It's the latest RC
[09:25] <MonsieurBon> hello
[09:25] <ianmacgregor> hi
[09:25] <MonsieurBon> does anybody know, when FF2 gets into the backports?
[09:25] <osama> hi
[09:26] <mnepton> xipietotec: seems like a non-strict-sh command problem. file a bug against the package and its configure in LP?
[09:26] <rwscold> now thats a good question
[09:26] <ianmacgregor> MonsieurBon: It won't be in the repos for Dapper AFAIK
[09:26] <rwscold> first good one in a while
[09:26] <mnepton> xipietotec: the configure script probably uses bash-esque syntax somewhere.
[09:26] <xipietotec> I've never filed a bug before, how do I do that
[09:26] <tx> i am using vipul's razor to filter spam , one question tho , why does razor create a ".razor" dir in each user's homedir ? i was interested in havin a global homedir , for logs and conf. files, please help
[09:27] <savvas>  if i select to donate yearly to freenode, am i obliged to pay for
[09:27] <savvas> ..the following years too?
[09:27] <MonsieurBon> ianmacgregor: wow, I just saw, has Edgy been released today????
[09:27] <BHSPitLappy> s/obliged/obligated/
[09:27] <ianmacgregor> MonsieurBon: Not yet
[09:27] <MasseR> MonsieurBon: Yes
[09:28] <BHSPitLappy> and that's hardly a ubuntu-relevant question
[09:28] <savvas> thank you ;p
[09:28] <osama> MonsieurBon, maybe :)
[09:28] <MasseR> Or is going to be released
[09:28] <MonsieurBon> ianmacgregor, MasseR: now what? :D
[09:28] <BHSPitLappy> savvas, ask in ##freenode
[09:28] <MasseR> MonsieurBon: "now what?"?
[09:28] <mnepton> MonsieurBon: the plan is to release it today. but it has not been released yet.
[09:28] <elkbuntu> Attention please everyone: Edgy Eft has **NOT** been released yet. Could offtopic discussion please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thankyou
[09:28] <MasseR> What's the next buntu?
[09:28] <MasseR> Fiesty
[09:28] <MasseR> Feisty
[09:28] <savvas> double channel sign? ok
[09:28] <MasseR> Orsomething
[09:29] <MonsieurBon> mnepton: ah, that clarifies. what is more likely? will it, or will it not be released?
[09:29] <DBO> MonsieurBon, more likely it will be released, please stop asking =)
[09:29] <MonsieurBon> DBO: thanks. I just got really excited! :D
[09:29] <MonsieurBon> cu
[09:29] <elkbuntu> MonsieurBon, we all are :)
[09:30] <cheesy> how bout asking if Edgy is released today?
[09:30] <chewy> hi
[09:30] <chewy> i got a question, how do i change what channels are recorded by alsa
[09:31] <chewy> when i talk on skype people can hear themselvs talk
[09:31] <tzadikim> how do i tell whether or not i have a 64 bit processor? maybe i picked the wrong distro...i really want to get this to work on my computer
[09:31] <cheesy> :)
[09:31] <DBO> chewy, it has to do with the PCM sliders
[09:31] <DBO> chewy, play with them a bit
[09:31] <osama> tzadikim, you most probably have a 32bit CPU
[09:31] <phire> cat /proc/cpu-info
[09:32] <chewy> what does PCM stand for
[09:32] <osama> Pulse Code Modulation
[09:32] <cheesy> or Personal Computer Machine ?
[09:32] <chewy> ok let me ask this, if i want 0% of what comes out of my speackers sent to be recorded, what should PCM be at
[09:33] <tzadikim> i've got an amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor, is that not the cpu?
[09:33] <osama> tzadikim,  64bit
[09:33] <Smotang> what are the developer libraries for sourcecode compiling?
[09:33] <chewy> don't get the 64 bit ubuntu it is incompatible with lots of things
[09:33] <chewy> and you don't get much performance from it
[09:33] <DBO> chewy, usually there are several PCM sliders, one of them needs to go to 0
[09:33] <chewy> rather, i should say lots of things are not compatible with it
[09:33] <DBO> chewy, it might be disabled
[09:33] <osama> 64bit is still not very interesting to me ,,, maybe in a few years////
[09:34] <Hikaru79> Smotang, depends on the package, but a good place to start is build-esential
[09:34] <tzadikim> so can i run the 32 bit on my 64 bit cpu?
[09:34] <chewy> yup
[09:34] <Hikaru79> *build-essential
[09:34] <tzadikim> ok, i'll try downloading that...thanks guys, i appreciate it
[09:34] <gebruiker> Could someone help me setup my Wireles network card? I have an WGPI03
[09:34] <Smotang> hikaru79 how would i get the build essential libraries using apt-get?
[09:35] <Zajjko|work> i686 actually left me with lower performance than i386 : (
[09:35] <Hikaru79> Smotang, just type: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:35] <Hikaru79> Its a meta-package that will pull in everything you need :)
[09:35] <Smotang> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:35] <Smotang> thannks
[09:36] <Hikaru79> No problem :)
[09:36] <Zajjko|work> Anyone familiar with the native VNC in ubuntu?
[09:36] <Zajjko|work> I'm experiencing some issues in performance while using VNC from my work computer to remote my home-comp
[09:37] <Zajjko|work> a lot of lag and left over bits and pieces of my desktop in areas that aren't updated. If I change workspace for example
[09:38] <a1113> Zajjko|work, are you using any firewall/bandwidth limiter ?
[09:38] <migue> buenos dias
[09:39] <Zajjko|work> a1113: nope. Sorry, I might have been a bit fuzzy. It isn't lag, per say, it's more left over artefacts that linger on my screen.
[09:39] <a1113> k
[09:39] <zlack> hey guys - when i try to start xgl with edgy it crashes and i see this error in my Xorg.0.log: AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed - any idea what to do ?
[09:39] <zlack> i'm running edgy
[09:39] <Flannel> zlack: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[09:39] <ianmacgregor> zlack: /join #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <a1113> Zajjko|work,  try using tsclient (if it is not already the case) and see if it is different from the embeeded client
[09:39] <Terminus> zlack: the people in #ubuntu+1 might be better equipped to help you.
[09:40] <SaLsIcHa> zlack, final or RC? o.o
[09:40] <zlack> ok thanks
[09:40] <kihai> Ahem, just a short question: How do I get rid of nfs-mounted folders showing up on all the ltsp clients' desktops although the folder is rwx------ and owns to root. Sth to do with nautilus settings? And how do I change this?
[09:40] <Flannel> SaLsIcHa: final doesn't exist yet
[09:40] <Zajjko|work> a1113: the client I'm using atm is RealVNC from a Windows Enviroment
[09:40] <ice_1963> is edgy out yet?
[09:40] <kihai> ...belongs to root...
[09:40] <Zajjko|work> is tsclient a VNC-serverapp?
[09:41] <osama> ice_1963, read the channel topic
[09:41] <SaLsIcHa> Flannel, hum o.o
[09:41] <ice_1963> or releasted
[09:41] <a1113> Zajjko, (no tsclient is a terminal server clietn that also support VNC, RDP, ...) be sure to use version 5 and try lower the resolution, disabeling the background or other stuff that can lower the graphic related trafic
[09:42] <ice_1963> osama, okay i see it :)
[09:42] <Zajjko|work> a1113: version 5 of tsclient? or version 5 of the VNC-protocol? checking the graphics now
[09:43] <a1113> Zajjko|work, VNC
[09:43] <ice_1963> osama, that's okay i run ETCH
[09:43] <jme> any idea how to get color working on the terminal again?
[09:43] <thelsdj> really wish there was a RDP server for linux, it seems to be a superior protocol (atleast graphics seem way better over slow links)
[09:43] <jme> it's enabled on gnome-terminal
[09:44] <a1113> Zajjko|work, i don't now maybe this can help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=452707
[09:45] <Zajjko|work> a1113: I'll have a looksee. I think I'll have to go for tsclient right away, I don't have any options for disabling diff. GFX in the native client ; D
[09:45] <kosnick> i need to set some app as default . Is there any way to do that? (example : to open pdfs with kpdf instead of document reader as default)
[09:45] <chou> oops
[09:45] <RancidLM> is there a way to transfer windows betweek xdmcp sessios?
[09:45] <a1113> Zajjko|work, good luck, I am quite sure you can get this working
[09:46] <barnetod> im back :)
[09:46] <barnetod> that release is the full 6.10
[09:46] <a1113> kosnick, you can edit /etc/mimetype for this
[09:46] <chewy> coo thx i got my skype working bad ass
[09:46] <Zajjko|work> a1113: well, since VNC works like a charm from one Windows env. to another, I'm quite sure it should work between Windows Linux aswell
[09:46] <kosnick> a1113 : ok thx i'll check on that
[09:46] <osama> barnetod, ???
[09:46] <barnetod> yes?
[09:47] <gebruiker> I installed the rt61 drivers however
[09:47] <gebruiker> Iget ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:47] <osama> what release?
[09:47] <barnetod> the one posted on the uk mirror
[09:47] <Zajjko|work> a1113: thanks for the help so far, if I should get the same issue in tsclient, I'll cry abit instead of asking again ; D
[09:47] <Smotang> whats the command to run a binary file from terminal as root?
[09:47] <a1113> Zajjko|work, you are welcome
[09:47] <a1113> :)
[09:47] <Fujitsu> RancidLM: I think there's a tool named xmove, but I'm not quite sure about it...
[09:47] <ubuntuowns> has anyone got the full 6.10 atm
[09:47] <dholbach> GOOD MORNING
[09:47] <Fujitsu> barnetod: How do you know?
[09:47] <Fujitsu> Hey dholbach.
[09:47] <barnetod> just ran the livecd and all that and no where on that puppy in every menu i decided and readme was release candidate
[09:47] <Fujitsu> dholbach: Welcome to chaoos.
[09:48] <Fujitsu> *cahos
[09:48] <Fujitsu> barnetod: Your point?
[09:48] <Smotang> whats the command to run a binary file from terminal as root? anyone know?
[09:48] <dholbach> heya Fujitsu
[09:48] <barnetod> well fuji im wrong you win
[09:48] <barnetod> lol
[09:48] <barnetod> just saying
[09:48] <a1113> Smotang, sudo
[09:48] <barnetod> i downloaded it decided to be guinea pig
[09:48] <savvas> what's the deb mirror for opera 9? deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main ?
[09:48] <barnetod> i may be wrong
[09:48] <Zajjko|work> a1113: best way to temporarily upload a screenshot? Imageshack? Just thought I'd let you have a look at what my client presents presently
[09:48] <RancidLM> Fujitsu: thnx ill take a look at it
[09:48] <barnetod> but was nice enough to share what i saw
[09:48] <Genix|linux> anyone play planeshift?
[09:48] <gebruiker> osama, to me?
[09:49] <Fujitsu> savvas: I believe so, yes.
[09:49] <osama> gebruiker, no :)
[09:49] <Bart> hi
[09:49] <brosen> Hello
[09:49] <Fujitsu> Hi Bart.
[09:49] <a1113> Zajjko|work, yes why not
[09:49] <Zajjko|work> a1113: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6791/vncissueya9.jpg
[09:49] <Bart> does sbd know why edgy isn't released ?
[09:50] <Fujitsu> !ef
[09:50] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[09:50] <Bart> Ok, thx :)
[09:50] <kofwang> when the firefox2.0 for ubuntu release?
[09:50] <osama> it may even be released next week or even next month ....
[09:50] <Lard-O-Lad> what is the difference between the Edgy RC and Edgy?
[09:50] <Genix|linux> !planeshift
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <Bart> Arglh... 3 months i wait this day... and edgy isn't released yet :(
[09:51] <kofwang> oh....thanx......i am worry about it
[09:51] <Fujitsu> osama: Or not.
[09:51] <cheesy> Bart: #ubuntu-edgy
[09:51] <a1113> Zajjko|work, do you have transparency enabled on the windows host ? are you connecting to the correct display (:0)
[09:52] <Fujitsu> kofwang: It's been in Edgy for some weeks now, although the final only for about 2 days.
[09:52] <shadok> isn't it contradictory to display a banner with Ubuntu 6.10 Released altough it is not ?
[09:52] <shadok> (on ubuntu.com)
[09:52] <xipietotec> shadok: It's released later today
[09:52] <Fujitsu> shadok: There was some miscommunication between the release and website teams.
[09:53] <Zajjko|work> a1113: No transparency, dunno about the display though. Don't think I have an option which display to announce/connect to
[09:53] <a1113> Personally I preferred being in advance, I passed to Edgy since 3 weeks now and I can say that it really rocks :)
[09:53] <shadok> I know that but released means "already"  xipietotec
[09:53] <shadok> Fujitsu: ah ok, thx :)
[09:53] <Jasey> hello. how i change the font size for GTK 1.2 apps? thanks in advance :)
[09:53] <kofwang> i think "released" is a promotion
[09:53] <xipietotec> Eh...I doubt it will actually bother too many people
[09:53] <Latino> hi, does ubuntu have ff 2.0 in the repos?
[09:53] <Zajjko|work> Latino: nope
[09:54] <kofwang> not yet..i find it too
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Latino: Edgy does, yes.
[09:54] <Fujitsu> (which will be released in the coming hours)
[09:54] <Latino> really? hmm
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Latino, yes.
[09:54] <Zajjko|work> Fujitsu: haha you saw that followup coming, didn't you? ; P
[09:54] <duckie> /1
[09:54] <Fujitsu> Zajjko|work: pretty much.
[09:54] <shadok> xipietotec: not too many but some should be too much imho,it would have been simpler to update the homepage after the download page
[09:54] <Latino> LD?
[09:54] <adhoc_> Fujitsu: do we have a release time yet?
[09:54] <Autonomy> latino: 2.0 (Bon Echo) Is beta. Probably Now
[09:55] <Fujitsu> !ef
[09:55] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[09:55] <Fujitsu> Autonomy: No. It was released yesterday.
[09:55] <Autonomy> Probably Not, sorry
[09:55] <rwscold> i said it earlier whats out right now is most likely very close to the final release if not the final release
[09:55] <Autonomy> Wow.. really! :s What a fool! :)
[09:55] <chou> so how do we upgrade to edgy (when it comes out)?  update of sources.list necessary?
[09:55] <Fujitsu> rwscold: But it is NOT OFFICIAL.
[09:55] <Autonomy> I'm slow, apparently!
[09:55] <Fujitsu> rwscold: Can you please stop promoting that?
[09:55] <rwscold> yes but u cant update/upgrade from within the install regardless
[09:55] <Fujitsu> chou: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades, once it's released.
[09:55] <dholbach> chou        gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[09:56] <a1113> Zajjko|work, I don't now many problems can occure between VNC based client/server espacially when not on the same plateforme. Did you try another protocol like RDP (using windows remote desktop client)
[09:56] <InvisiblePinkUni> are we there yet... are we there yet... are we there yet.... :p
[09:56] <kosnick> a1113 : what do i need to do with mime.types so i can open a pdf with a specific app?
[09:56] <chou> thanks
[09:56] <mnepton> InvisiblePinkUni: stop asking or i'm turning this buildd around and we're all going back to Windows For Workgroups.
[09:56] <ianmacgregor> kosnick: Right-click on the pdf file, choose "Open with Other Application"
[09:57] <Zajjko|work> a1113: I tried using krfb as server and connecting with windows RDP - No dice I'm afraid. Couldn't even connect as it seems
[09:57] <ianmacgregor> mnepton: Nooooo!
[09:57] <kosnick> ianmacgregor : i need to do it as default
[09:57] <kosnick> not with right click
[09:57] <a1113> kosnick, in /etc/mime.types you define a type that correspond to an extension
[09:57] <InvisiblePinkUni> mnepton: me looking for ponies... lots were presented during dapper's release :)
[09:57] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, try using TightVNC Client
[09:58] <Magilla> Having problems installing Firefox 2. The only howtos I can find involve betas/RCs and an installation script that doesn't appear to be in the archive I downloaded
[09:58] <kosnick> a1113 : a type , not an app , right?
[09:58] <InvisiblePinkUni> mnepton: just curious... what is windows for workgroups? is it windows 2000?
[09:58] <a1113> kosnick, right
[09:58] <Fujitsu> InvisiblePinkUni: Windows 3.11 (released in '93 or so)
[09:58] <elkbuntu> InvisiblePinkUni, 3.11 :)
[09:58] <kikke> windows 3.11
[09:58] <kikke> :))
[09:58] <InvisiblePinkUni> oooooo
[09:58] <Magilla> The firefox site says "see the release notes", but the release notes say nothing
[09:58] <a1113> kosnick, then you can use this type to associate it to the app you want
[09:58] <kosnick> a1113 : is there any way to define a specific app for a specific extension?
[09:58] <Fujitsu> Magilla: Not Ubuntu's problem,.
[09:58] <Zajjko|work> HiveChild: tried TightVNC, the same issue, so I think my problem is the server on my home-comp
[09:58] <rwscold> windows 3.11 was great
[09:58] <elkbuntu> commonly considered that companies last stable release, but that's a discussion for another channel ;)
[09:59] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, k :(
[09:59] <LedStyle> Do someone here run Softimage XSI on Ubuntu???
[09:59] <Latino> hehe, so was DOS 5.0
[09:59] <Magilla> Fujitsu: I'm aware of that, but I was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction...
[09:59] <Zajjko|work> HiveChild: I mean thanks anyway, if my response seemed a bit harsh : )
[09:59] <kosnick> a1113 : i didn;t get the point ...
[09:59] <Artemis3> oh hi used these :p
[10:00] <osama> Lathiat,  so was OS/2 Warp 4.0
[10:00] <elkbuntu> **Attention**  Could offtopic discussion (discussion that isnt about ubuntu) please go to #ubuntu-offtopic ... Thankyou :)
[10:00] <Artemis3> tehehehe
[10:00] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, hehe dont worry I did not take it as being hash ;)
[10:00] <Artemis3> lets go there
[10:00] <a1113> kosnick, I am looking (I remember I did this one day)
[10:00] <kosnick> a1113 : ok
[10:00] <rwscold> why name the channel @ubuntu-offtopic if its not supposed to be about ubuntu cause things that are aabout ubuntu are in here?
[10:00] <CorpseFeeder> hi. Who here wants (can?) help me to get a DC10+ zoran chip capture card to work under ubuntu?
[10:01] <jme> any idea how to get color working on the terminal again?
[10:01] <cheesy> jme: using a color screen?
[10:01] <ehird> just thought i'd let you guys know: the home page says "Ubuntu 6.10, released today" but the download page is still for 6.06
[10:01] <osama> rwscold, we're all waiting :)
[10:01] <azureal> any idea how i'd see my $VIMRUNTIME environment variable?
[10:01] <elkbuntu> ehird, we're aware
[10:01] <timhaughton> When will dist-upgrade start working? Anyone know?
[10:02] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, are you using compression on the VNC connection ?
[10:02] <rwscold> hahaha
[10:02] <brosnan> Magilla: what was the error?
[10:02] <rwscold> osama what are we wating for
[10:02] <rwscold> ?
[10:02] <rwscold> lol
[10:02] <jme> cheesy: yes :p
[10:02] <jme> and it's enabled in gnome-terminal
[10:02] <Magilla> brosnan: no error yet. Entirely unsure how to procede
[10:03] <Zajjko|work> HiveChild: you mean encoding?
[10:03] <Magilla> Firefox/Mozilla FAQ: Installation - "See Release Notes"
[10:03] <duckie> hey all, student here just started my BSc Comp. Sci. question is.... what do you think is the best IDE for java running in Ubuntu.
[10:03] <Zajjko|work> HiveChild: atm I'm using ZRLE, which is the default option. And to tell you the truth, I don't know shit about the formats and encoding ; D
[10:03] <rt2570> moo!
[10:03] <Fujitsu> duckie: Eclipse.
[10:03] <brosnan> Magilla: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:03] <CorpseFeeder> apparently ffmpeg, v4l, xawtv, lavrec and vlc can all use my capture card, but I cannot get any of them to work. the furtherest I've got is a blue screen in xawtv. Can anyone help?
[10:03] <kosnick> a1113 : i think i got it . you need to change the properties of one pdf file (the "open with" property) and then all pdf will just open with the preferred app
[10:04] <Magilla> Release Notes - Installation: Please note that installing Firefox 2 will overwrite your existing installation of Firefox. You won't lose any of your bookmarks or browsing history, but some of your extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available.
[10:04] <Magilla> the firefox site is bloody useless
[10:04] <amit> any one help me , my drive is not mounted,how to mount it
[10:04] <ianmacgregor> kosnick: That is what I tried to tell you
[10:04] <Zajjko|work> a1113: tsclient in ubuntu only seems to be just that, a client for connecting to remote desktop servers
[10:04] <elkbuntu> !language
[10:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:04] <osama> preparing to destroy Dapper CDs ....
[10:04] <HiveChild> Zajjko|work, try and change the encoding, as far as I recall I have had similar problem with artifacts in the past in a vnc connection
[10:04] <Fujitsu> Zajjko|work: that's what tsclient was designed to do...
[10:04] <kosnick> ianmacgregor : sorry then , i didn't get it in the first place
[10:04] <Magilla> brosnan: thanks. elkbuntu: sorry...
[10:05] <ehird> quick question: is the release candidate identical to the version out today apart from a version number?
[10:05] <Fujitsu> ehird: No.
[10:05] <amit> any one help me , my drive is not mounted,how to mount it
[10:05] <a1113> kosnick, that can do it :)
[10:05] <brosnan> Magilla: seeing that 90% of the people using firefox get it from thier distro, mozilla does not provide much documentation
[10:05] <Fujitsu> ehird: There are a number of updated packages for fixing bugs.
[10:05] <Zajjko|work> Fujitsu: well I kind of figured. Just sounded like I could use it as a server earlier
[10:05] <ehird> fujitsu: okay, i'll wait then. thanks :)
[10:05] <kosnick> ianmacgregor : but which file is  changed? which can i change manually then?
[10:05] <a1113> Zajjko|work, no you have other protocols that are supported but you need to install some other dependencies
[10:05] <MatthewV> amit, there is a section in the System Documentation (System --> Help --> System Documentation) that explains that.. any troubles ask here
[10:05] <duckie> yea, eclipse is what I'm using on XP & Ubuntu at the moment. thanks Fujitsu. strange, I actually work for the Fujitsu company. anyway thanks guys
[10:06] <ianmacgregor> kosnick: When you right-click on the file and choose Open with Other Application, be sure to read the top of that new window.
[10:06] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all .. does anyone have advice on getting as much as possible out of nVidia chipped cards? I'm running 2 cards and 4 monitors, and it seems pretty sluggish. I get the Nvidia screen on login, but still, they are slow. glxgears works some of the time, and never prints out the fps .. (glxgears -?)
[10:06] <a1113> Zajjko|work, I always used it with windows/linux servers never had problems. But maybe using TightVNC is better for you
[10:06] <Zajjko|work> a1113: well, I have tsclient on my Linux-comp at home. I need some other server for that comp I think
[10:07] <phire> try glxgears -info
[10:07] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu, you talking about keeping this channel family friendly? If only people saw the chat we had yesterday night, you naughty bot... ;)
[10:07] <Zajjko|work> a1113: you set up tsclient as a VNC-server and used TightVNC to connect to it?
[10:07] <pzx> 1
[10:07] <linuxvampire> ^_^
[10:08] <a1113> Zajjko|work, no no I always used tsclient as I client to connect to linux/windows comp
[10:08] <Zajjko|work> a1113: there we have it ; D
[10:08] <Zajjko|work> a1113: what server did you use on the Linux-comp in that case?
[10:08] <a1113> x11
[10:08] <Xeppo> is the Edgy release in http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ the official release?  It doesn't carry the RC tag.
[10:08] <phire> no
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Xeppo: No. It is not official.
[10:08] <Zajjko|work> a1113: x11vnc?
[10:08] <pdiddy_6787876> Quick question, If I wanted to input chinese chars / japanese text into a email in ubuntu how can I switch between locales with the keyboard?
[10:08] <linuxvampire> anyone else use E17/Dapper? :)
[10:09] <osama> yes
[10:09] <osama>
[10:09] <Xeppo> Are the repositories official?
[10:09] <osama>
[10:09] <RancidLM> does e17 work with XGL?
[10:09] <Fujitsu> Xeppo: It has not been fully released yet, so not strictly.
[10:09] <linuxvampire> Dunno, I'm gonna test it on Monday at school
[10:09] <elkbuntu> osama, please use english in the main channels
[10:09] <Xeppo> Fujitsu: The ubuntu.com frontpage is really confusing me.
[10:09] <cheesy> RancidLM: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:09] <InvisiblePinkUni> osama: is that arabic or hebrew?
[10:09] <twager> Anyone tell me if I can use my grub stanza to boot a distro on hdb9
[10:10] <ehird> xeppo: look at the description column: it still says release candidate
[10:10] <osama> elkbuntu, i know ... that was garbage arabic text...  just a demo for pdiddy_6787876
[10:10] <Artemis3> frontpage is being updated right now...
[10:10] <ehird> the front page, or the download page?
[10:10] <elkbuntu> osama, you could have used PM
[10:10] <barnetod> hey as a core 2 duo owner should i download 686?
[10:10] <mnepton> Artemis3: s/is being/has been/
[10:10] <Artemis3> ok
[10:10] <pdiddy_6787876> osama, how can I do that?  input multiple languages and switch between them?
[10:11] <ehird> personally i would have left the fancy home page graphic to after it'd been uploaded but hey, it's free :p
[10:11] <osama> elkbuntu, sorry
[10:11] <osama> pdiddy_6787876,
[10:11] <InvisiblePinkUni> yeah osama.... how do you do it?
[10:11] <osama> pdiddy_6787876, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[10:11] <osama> then Layouts
[10:12] <osama> BRB
[10:12] <rwscold> Ya would it be wise to run the 6866 version over 386 if i am running a dual core processor????????????????
[10:12] <Fujitsu> rwscold: Yes. Please don't use so many ?
[10:12] <ArmedKing> Is there a known howto for moving ubuntu to another partition. I have it currently installed on a usb hard disk. And would like to move is to hda?
[10:12] <shawarma> rwscold: In edgy you'd run the -generic kernel.
[10:12] <pdiddy_6787876> osama, Chinese is not available on that menu.  However japanese is.
[10:12] <Xeppo> The Feisty Fawn?  WTF was Mark thinking?
[10:13] <twager> Anyone tell me if I can use my grub stanza to boot a distro on hdb9
[10:13] <Fujitsu> Xeppo: He was thinking quite sanely, but that is -offtopic stuff.
[10:13] <Fujitsu> twager: yes...
[10:13] <ehird> ahaha, now the front page says "to be released 26 october" instead of "released"
[10:13] <twager> Thanks..
[10:14] <ehird> huzzah, download page is updated
[10:14] <Fujitsu> ehird: is it?
[10:15] <charle97> gregarious gorilla in next
[10:15] <a1113> sorry I was on the phone and I am a bit cranky Zajjko|work ^~^
[10:15] <a1113> yes
[10:15] <khaije1> no news?
[10:15] <ehird> fujitsu: yeah, but the actual links are broken >_>
[10:15] <Fujitsu> ehird: It's still showing 6.06 for me.
[10:15] <DrSpin> me too
[10:15] <Autonomy> ehird: Looks the same for me, too!
[10:15] <rwscold> same here
[10:15] <Fujitsu> ehird: We are some distance from the announcement yet.
[10:15] <khaije1> oops, ic they changed the chan message
[10:16] <ehird> oh, hum
[10:16] <ehird> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download is updated
[10:16] <Autonomy> Fujitsu: Curious... Whats your local time? Me: 5:46pm
[10:16] <ehird> but not the main download page
[10:16] <ehird> yet they're almost identical
[10:17] <Fujitsu> Autonomy: You're in South Australia?
[10:17] <Autonomy> Yep
[10:17] <Lemino> can I use the update-manager to update to edgy just as I normaly update the system?
[10:17] <Fujitsu> (I'm in Melbourne)
[10:17] <rwscold> wait
[10:17] <rwscold> whird what is that!
[10:17] <Fujitsu> Lemino: It will notify you when it detects a new release, and offer you the choice of upgrading.
[10:17] <ehird> what on earth does whird mean
[10:17] <rwscold> sorry lol
[10:18] <Autonomy> Fujitsu: :p Auzzies!
[10:18] <elkbuntu> YAY
[10:18] <rwscold> ehird thats it right??!
[10:18] <rwscold> ?!??!?!
[10:18] <Fujitsu> Autonomy: Join us in #ubuntu-au!
[10:18] <Lemino> Fujitsu: ok, so I don't have to use something like "sudo update-manager -c"?
[10:18] <ehird> edgy is released!!!!!! but the download links are broken.
[10:18] <dholbach> it's NOT released!
[10:18] <ehird> :p
[10:18] <dholbach> guys
[10:18] <ehird> i was replying to the topic
[10:18] <shawarma> DBO: Why did you change that?
[10:18] <crimsun> but daniel, I want my shiny! *whine*
[10:18] <dholbach> read<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:18] <azureal> stop the damn false hopes
[10:18] <Lemino> Fujitsu: because that's what I  learned from someone on another ubuntu-channel.
[10:18] <rwscold> hahahahahaha
[10:19] <Fujitsu> Yeah, it's not been released...
[10:19] <dholbach> crimsun: alt f2 -> free the fish - shiny :)
[10:19] <crimsun> tehe
[10:19] <ehird> just keep refreshing http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease and trying the links :p
[10:19] <Fujitsu> Lemino: once it has been appropriately released, it should be automatic, though you can do that if you want it quicker.
[10:19] <ehird> race to be the first on the http logs ,o/
[10:19] <Lard-O-Lad> is the chan topic right?
[10:19] <azureal> such a nerd, lol =P
[10:19] <ehird> no it isn't
[10:19] <Lemino> Fujitsu: you mean if I want the development-release?
[10:19] <DrSpin> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ still listing the RC for the torrent files :(
[10:19] <kofwang> the www.ubuntu.com 's frontpage has change! the image is disappear!
[10:19] <DBO> shawarma, cuz its released
[10:19] <ehird> drspin: because it isn't released!
[10:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> wooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:20] <shawarma> DBO: No, it is *not*!
[10:20] <azureal> lol
[10:20] <neuro_> i love release days :)
[10:20] <Fujitsu> Lemino: no, it may take a while for update-notifier to notice.
[10:20] <DBO> i guess not
[10:20] <Fujitsu> Thankyou, DBO.
[10:20] <ehird> dbo: give me one working download link to it and i'll agree :p
[10:20] <DBO> sorry
[10:20] <azureal> HAHA
[10:20] <kofwang> i think the current will be the finally version
[10:20] <neuro_> no-one has a frickin' clue what's going on outside the project itself, and every tiny change to a site is over analysed and causes complete havoc for at least 5 minutes :)
[10:21] <neuro_> it's brilliant :)
[10:21] <dholbach> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-October/thread.html
[10:21] <Fujitsu> kofwang: It may be, but it isn't official yet.
[10:21] <Lemino> Fujitsu: how do you mean?
[10:21] <InvisiblePinkUni> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:21] <ehird> kofwang: no, guaranteed every 6 months
[10:21] <DrSpin> WOW
[10:21] <ehird> besides from what i've heard it isn't exceedingly stable, so that would be a bad one to end on
[10:21] <GazzaK> this is the same as what happened with Dapper...  do you folks not learn?
[10:21] <Lemino> Fujitsu: what effect does it have to use the -c variable?
[10:21] <neuro_> GazzaK: hahaha
[10:21] <Fujitsu> Lemino: I believe it specifies to look for a new version of the distribution.
[10:21] <neuro_> GazzaK: don't be ridiculous ;)
[10:21] <InvisiblePinkUni> who changed the topic?
[10:21] <woekele> whats going on?
[10:21] <elkbuntu> GazzaK, if you're not going to contribute meaningfully, please move -offtopic
[10:22] <woekele> Edgy is postponed?
[10:22] <ehird> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download who removed 6.10 links?! :(((
[10:22] <shawarma> woekele: No.
[10:22] <Fracture> I just switched to TwinView, and beryl now works
[10:22] <Lemino> Fujitsu: no matter if that version is a final, stable one or not?
[10:22] <Deaigo> my processes keep getting killed
[10:22] <woekele> what's the problem then? :)
[10:22] <fabbione> ok
[10:22] <elkbuntu> **attention** all non-support related chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:22] <fabbione> please listen to me ONE MINUT
[10:22] <fabbione> Edgy is not released
[10:22] <fabbione> and it is NOT delayed
[10:23] <fabbione> the images that people are posting from .pool might NOT be final
[10:23] <fabbione> there are clear reasons why we push them to the mirrors BEFORE release
[10:23] <fabbione> so that the load can be spread across the network
[10:23] <fabbione> regarding the site
[10:23] <fabbione> there has been a mistake publishing the link on www.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <fabbione> it has been fixed
[10:24] <fabbione> an announcement will go to the mailing lists and HERE when it's all FINAL
[10:24] <fabbione> so please sit and relax
[10:24] <fabbione> it's a matter of few hours only
[10:24] <fabbione> no more
[10:24] <neuro_> elkbuntu: might be worth changing the topic to say "NOT Released Yet", otherwise people will think it's NEVER being released
[10:24] <elkbuntu> thankyou, fabbione :)
[10:24] <neuro_> thanks fabbione
[10:24] <rwscold> so what your saying is i should go to sleep
[10:24] <kofwang> thanx!!!
[10:24] <[H5N1] > geez, just load up RC1 and just update anything after release :p
[10:24] <kofwang> we wait!
[10:24] <Lynoure> people are funnily inpatient
[10:24] <neuro_> DBO: :))
[10:24] <kofwang> yes
[10:25] <ehird> so does this happen every release day? :p
[10:25] <rwscold> its a good thing ppl are getting excited
[10:25] <neuro_> ehird: pretty much
[10:25] <DBO> neuro_, it was a good catch
[10:25] <Fujitsu> ehird: yes.
[10:25] <Lard-O-Lad> what time was Dapper released?
[10:25] <ehird> next time, i'll bring popcorn :D
[10:25] <[H5N1] > The site is gonna get hammered totally at release..
[10:25] <kihai> And where can I find an image for edubuntu 6.10?
[10:26] <VoX> kihai: you cant, it's not released yet
[10:26] <ehird> kihai: when edgy is released
[10:26] <MatthewV> kihai, read /topic
[10:26] <Artemis3> gao~
[10:26] <ChrisNiemy> change topic to "NOT released and not postponed" ;)
[10:26] <Fujitsu> [H5N1] : It has the capabilities to withstand releases; it's done it before.
[10:26] <kihai> mkay...
[10:26] <neuro_> Lard-O-Lad: the mail went to -announce list at 09:08 UTC on june 1st for dapper, but that shouldn't really be taken as a benchmark of anything
[10:26] <Artemis3> man
[10:26] <ehird> besides, it's not as if it serves the isos or anything
[10:26] <DrSpin> LOL -- the edgy changes on the site have been pulled down
[10:27] <ehird> just a few html pages
[10:27] <Artemis3> bittorrent can stand anything
[10:27] <concept10> is upstart the replacement to init?
[10:27] <Zajjko|work> a1113: No problem at all. As you can see I'm at work and my boss is starting to look funny at me for my flickering screen and background controversing company policy anyway so... ; p
[10:27] <Artemis3> why they don't release bittorrent only first?
[10:27] <Artemis3> i don't get it
[10:27] <kihai> concept10: yes!
[10:27] <MatthewV> Artemis3, discuss in -offtopic :)
[10:27] <Artemis3> *snif*
[10:27] <ehird> artemis3: because some people have isps who horribly limit bittorrent downloads? ...like me ;)
[10:27] <xsacha> is edgy released yet? (and no i didnt read the title)
[10:27] <SilentDis> hello :)
[10:28] <leng> waiting eagarly , am sure it is coming....
[10:28] <ehird> xsacha: so you admit you didn't read your answer? uh huh
[10:28] <Artemis3> i said at first, not forever
[10:28] <Artemis3> come to offtopic
[10:28] <kihai> ehird: Wouldn't changing the default port for bittorrent solve that problem
[10:29] <SilentDis> bit of an oddball question here... I have a ximeta netdisk.  I've managed to get it setup properly, and can mount it from the prompt.  I'd rather use an entry in /etc/fstab if I could, so I can use the 'stupid user' toolbar mounter.  any ideas?
[10:29] <Ademan> what is extmod?
[10:29] <Fujitsu> A SUPPORT REQUEST!?
[10:29] <elkbuntu> Fujitsu, sshhh, you'll scare him off
[10:29] <SilentDis> Fujitsu:  did I break taboo?  lol
[10:29] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: what command did you use to mount it?
[10:30] <SilentDis> sudo mount /dev/ndas-00110749:0p1 /media/netdisk -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[10:30] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: This support channel hasn't had a support request in many minutes :)
[10:30] <ehird> kihai: doesn't work
[10:30] <SilentDis> lol fujitsu
[10:30] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: Add a line to /etc/fstab like so:
[10:30] <ehird> i've tried disabling firewalls, virus scanners, basically anything, adding forced encryption, random ports... still slow
[10:30] <Latino> haha, when everyone gets edgy you'll get tons of support request
[10:30] <timhaughton> Question about Dapper Server on a Dell box: When I do a soft reboot (reboot command) the system errors saying it can't find the hard disk. When I do a hard reset it's fine. This machine reboots fine with Windows. Is there something in Ubuntu that could cause this?
[10:30] <ehird> and this is on well seeded torrents
[10:31] <Fujitsu> timhaughton: Sounds like a BIOS bug, it happens on some Dells.
[10:31] <CarinArr> ehird, is this only in ubuntu?
[10:31] <neuro_> yeah, which client(s) are you using?
[10:32] <bun-bun> !build
[10:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:32] <ehird> carinarr: no, as my adventures on ubuntuforums will tell you that so far I've had no luck getting my winmodem USB crappy affair to work in any linux distro :p
[10:32] <ehird> i'm hoping edgy might give me enough motivation to try again. :p
[10:32] <pablo> !releasedate
[10:32] <CarinArr> ehird, cause in general, a great number of isps cap their peer to peer traffic now
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about releasedate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <neuro_> ah, so this is a windows bittorrent issue :P :)
[10:32] <Fujitsu> !ef
[10:32] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:32] <ehird> pablo: whenitisdone
[10:32] <robin> !TheReleaseMinute
[10:32] <neuro_> ehird: (try utorrent)
[10:32] <pablo> !release
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about TheReleaseMinute - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:33] <ehird> neuro_ no, many torrent sites list my ISP as problematic for it
[10:33] <ehird> (Tiscali UK :'()
[10:33] <rwscold>  i need a mirror near texas anyone know of one?
[10:33] <ehird> neuro_: i do use utorrent :p
[10:33] <robin> Cmon we need 6.10 who's with me?
[10:33] <SilentDis> Fujitsu:  i missed the /etc/fstab line, would you mind resending it?
[10:33] <kihai> ehird: Disabling firewalls etc. doesn't help at all. You just need to change the ports bittorent uses. ITSPs block only certain ports that are known for filesharing.
[10:33] <CarinArr> ehird, tiscali, pipex etc all limit torrent traffic
[10:33] <DBO> robin, it will come when its ready, no sooner
[10:33] <VoX> robin: shush
[10:33] <justthisguy> robin: if you need it that bad just upgrade ;P
[10:34] <AlexC_> rwscold: this is a good mirror: http://www.architecturalantiques.com/Mirror%20French%20Gilt%20Mirror%20A%2048.5%20w%20x%2070.5%20h%20.jpg
[10:34] <Robin> I want the iso :)
[10:34] <Rockfish> rwscold: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/ Is Utah close enough?
[10:34] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: /dev/ndas-00110749:0p1 /media/netdisk ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[10:34] <[H5N1] > You people are crazy :p
[10:34] <ehird> kihai: i have... utorrent uses a random port each startup
[10:34] <SilentDis> thank you fujitsu :)
[10:34] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: (Konversation thought it was a command, and I didn't notice it failed to send... Sorry)
[10:34] <rwscold> utah should work
[10:34] <ehird> it's crazy, they must have god working for them :p
[10:34] <Fujitsu> Robin, that's not going to do much good.
[10:34] <CarinArr> ehird, get a proper isp;)
[10:35] <SilentDis> no worries :)
[10:35] <Robin> Will final version of 6.10 contain ff 2.9 final
[10:35] <neuro_> ehird: sounds like you've discovered the joys of tiscali's traffic shaping, and that's not a topic for this channel :)
[10:35] <ehird> carinarr: been trying ;)
[10:35] <eliphas_> hello guys
[10:35] <AlexC_> if only it was April Fools day..... then I could shout out Edgy Eft RELEASED!!! then wait a while and then shout April Fools!
[10:35] <Robin> 2.0*
[10:35] <neuro_> ehird: summary: try using bittorrent between 0100 and 0900
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> Robin: 2.0 you mean, and that was the original plan, but I don't know if it made it or not.
[10:35] <[H5N1] > I didn't realize they went as far as a 2.9 final :p
[10:35] <Fujitsu> Robin, it does.
[10:35] <Fujitsu> tonyyarusso: It made it.
[10:35] <Fujitsu> Robin: (2.0, that is)
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> Fujitsu: Good
[10:36] <Robin> Why not Ice Weasel I thought it was some law stuff on that
[10:36] <shawarma> Robin: Yes, 2.0 is included.
[10:36] <ianmacgregor> AlexC_: Save it for Feisty Fawn (7.04 , April ) :)
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> Robin: A deal of some sort was struck.  Don't know details
[10:36] <AlexC_> Robin: Ubuntu managed to get permission for the changes they do to Firefox
[10:36] <Robin> Cool!
[10:36] <SilentDis> Fujitsu:  any way to not mount it by default?  the driver doesn't load for it till after /etc/fstab is parsed
[10:36] <CarinArr> !flash
[10:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:36] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: Add ,noauto to the bit before the 0s.
[10:36] <AlexC_> ianmacgregor: but that's the 16h
[10:36] <shawarma> SilentDis: add "noauto" to the options.
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> However, while I see we have the original FF logo back, why not the Thunderbird one as well?
[10:36] <SilentDis> Fujitsu:  thanks :D
[10:37] <AlexC_> ianmacgregor: I think they should change release date to April 1st just for me so I can shout it out :P
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> tonyyarusso: Where do you see the original ff logo?
[10:37] <Fujitsu> SilentDis: No problem.
[10:37] <Fujitsu> ianmacgregor: It's been in Edgy for about 3 days now.
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> ianmacgregor: I got it in an update maybe two days ago.
[10:37] <jrei> hi, anyone knows it is posible to switch to an active evolution instead of opening a new one?
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> Oh, in Edgy
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[10:38] <jrei> how?
[10:38] <Robin> i don't know
[10:38] <per> hi guys can you please tell how to install (tar.gz) file in ubuntu
[10:38] <DBO> !compile
[10:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> jrei: Sorry, that was to ian, I don't know for your q.
[10:38] <Ghos[t] > hi!! sorry but does anyone know when edgy is out???
[10:38] <Fujitsu> !ef
[10:38] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:38] <freacky22527> per: tar xvf file.tgz && cd file
[10:38] <Robin> Lots of people are getting hyped about 6.10
[10:38] <ianmacgregor> per: First of all you need to unpack the tarball and read the INSTALL and README files in it
[10:38] <encompass> per: you need to extract it first just double click on it
[10:38] <Ghos[t] > thanks
[10:38] <AlexC_> Ghos[t] : it's out now go get it! ...... April Fools ... hum, doesn't quite work
[10:38] <SilentDis> well, thanks much all, especially you Fujitsu :).  again, my apologies for breaking the "no support requests in the support channel" curse lol
[10:38] <thee> they removed the ubuntu 6.10 released images from ubuntu.com ... lol
[10:39] <encompass> per: then what did the instructions say... if none... read the readme file in the dir you just extracted
[10:39] <Fujitsu> thee, of course. There was miscommunication that put them up in the first place.
[10:39] <AlexC_> thee: Yeah! when I saw they removed it I was like ... ooooooo any second now it will be released, so I kept hitting Refresh lol
[10:39] <CarinArr> jesus.. already time for edgy, only just upgraded my work machine to dapper;)
[10:39] <per> thanks i give it a try :)
[10:39] <encompass> I need the cd's of 6.10 for my install fest tomarrow... hope they come soon
[10:40] <InvisiblePinkUni> cant the topic be changed to a countdown clock?
[10:40] <shawarma> encompass: I hope you are kidding.
[10:40] <GazzaK> to countdown to when?
[10:40] <InvisiblePinkUni> cant the topic be changed to a countdown clock?
[10:40] <encompass> nope
[10:40] <Flannel> !ef
[10:40] <encompass> hehe
[10:40] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> InvisiblePinkUni: We don't have a time to count down to
[10:40] <AlexC_> see what I did there? Edge...Edgy....Edg..y....Edgy
[10:40] <CarinArr> er.. a countdown clock in the topic, would have to change the topic every second;)
[10:40] <CarinArr> slightly annoying;)
[10:40] <momal> lol.. maybe like an hour count down :)
[10:40] <rwscold> Ubuntu_6.06_i386_Christian_Edition_v1_4.iso
[10:41] <ehird> then we need an irc client that can run javascript code in the topic
[10:41] <encompass> I am waiting... pretty exceited about it... got alot of people hanging on this release
[10:41] <Ghos[t] > hehe
[10:41] <InvisiblePinkUni> GazzaK: until edgy release :)
[10:41] <xipietotec> heehee :D
[10:41] <ehird> rwscold: are you kidding me? :p
[10:41] <Artemis3> ewww
[10:41] <rwscold> it exists!
[10:41] <ehird> what the..
[10:41] <Artemis3> chatzilla?
[10:41] <per> there is no read me file in tar.gz, but there is a instal.sh
[10:41] <Artemis3> :P
[10:41] <valehru> Hell, Im bored with Edgy, waiting for fiesty fawn.
[10:41] <icCE> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/edgy-dvd-i386.iso
[10:41] <encompass> per what is the file your tring to install?
[10:41] <ehird> icCE: wrelease candidate i bet
[10:41] <per> it opera
[10:42] <per> *s
[10:42] <encompass> ohhh
[10:42] <icCE> ehird, current ? +)
[10:42] <ehird> that's a daily build
[10:42] <ehird> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/ <-- look
[10:42] <encompass> we I think you can get that with the extra repos let me check...
[10:42] <rwscold>  wanted to let you know what the christian one has to offer.
[10:42] <rwscold> UbuntuChristian Edition is a free, open source operating system gearedtowards Christians. It is based on the popular Ubuntu Linux. Ubuntu isa complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with bothcommunity and professional support.
[10:42] <xipietotec> the Christian Edition is just Ubuntu with some open source bible stuff (which is in universe allready) pre-installed
[10:42] <ehird> how the heck do christians get their own release? XD
[10:42] <rwscold> haha its funny is all
[10:42] <hkl8324> xipietotec, yes
[10:42] <elkbuntu> Attention please everyone: Edgy Eft has **NOT** been released yet. Could offtopic discussion (non-ubuntu-support discussion) please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thankyou
[10:42] <alesdoc> Hello: how can i modify the dimension of the terminal-window from 80x24 to a bigger dimension by the start-up of the window?
[10:43] <encompass> per... go here... http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=28354%2C28352&location=204&sub=++++&x=104&y=23
[10:43] <rwscold> i waited like  years for windows xp GE (God edition) but nooooooooo
[10:43] <encompass> just double click that download and install it like that
[10:43] <CarinArr> alesdoc, gnome-terminal?
[10:43] <timhaughton> If the Ubuntu Christian edition crashes - can you take the Lord's name in vain?
[10:43] <mnepton> and if the off-topic discussion could follow the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct and be respectful toward people's personal beliefs that would be great, too.
[10:43] <hkl8324> will xubuntu release today?
[10:43] <alesdoc> CarinArr: yes
[10:43] <rwscold> i think so tim
[10:43] <encompass> timhaughton: nownow... be nice
[10:43] <DBO> timhaughton, offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:43] <elkbuntu> rwscold, next kick will be accompanied with a ban
[10:44] <alesdoc> CarinArr: i looked for an option on gconf but i didn't find it
[10:44] <encompass> hi FeistyFawn
[10:44] <CorpseFeeder> damn those double-underline links on web pages are annoying. you know the ones, they are generated randomly on any word in an offending site's text - you mouse over them and some idiot box pops up with a link to some advertiser with a tenuous link to the high-lighted word. I hate them. they are the bane of my existence.
[10:44] <CarinArr> alesdoc, gnome-terminal --geometry=GEOMETRY
[10:44] <MatthewV> CorpseFeeder, this is a support channel
[10:44] <osama> back ... how about kicking out anybody who asks the question.
[10:45] <rwscold> elkbuntu i am sorry i will stop but i dont understand why i am the only one u chose to pick on?  it seems like plenty more are having useless conversations in here as well but i will stop
[10:45] <elkbuntu> osama, very tempting
[10:45] <DBO> CorpseFeeder, offtopic chatted to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:45] <alesdoc> CarinArr: thanks i try
[10:45] <ianmacgregor> alesdoc: Yes, open your System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications -> and g to the system tab. Choose "Custom" in the Terminal Emulator section and type in: gnome-terminal --geometry 95x30   (replace the 95x30 with the dimensions of your choice.)
[10:45] <CorpseFeeder> yes, ok, but I don't think anyone is able to help me with my dc10+ card problem.
[10:45] <per> encompass   shall i save it to disk or open with
[10:45] <elkbuntu> rwscold, because you're not only misleading people, you're being obnoxious
[10:45] <alesdoc> ianmacgregor: thanks
[10:45] <encompass> per I would save it to disk
[10:45] <Artemis3> oh i have one of those taking dust
[10:46] <encompass> per: then just double click it...
[10:46] <per> and extract it to desktop?
[10:46] <rwscold> what about the guy making edgy edge songs earlier ya ok sorry i will shutup now
[10:46] <encompass> per... it won't extract it will ask to be installed
[10:46] <DBO> good idea =)
[10:47] <Artemis3> beta edgy sounds were cool
[10:47] <encompass> per: then it will ask for your admin password and your installed from there
[10:47] <encompass> per: is there something wrong?
[10:47] <ianmacgregor> alesdoc: alesdoc You can also use that command (gnome-terminal --geometry 95x30) as a launcher or menu entry as well.
[10:48] <Schalken> where can i see the final (k)(x)(ed)ubuntu artwork?
[10:48] <encompass> per: ? per???? OH my gosh... i think I killed him!
[10:48] <per> no you didt :)
[10:48] <rackerz> just as many people as when dapper was releaw
[10:48] <encompass> per: phew... ok how is it going... did it install?
[10:48] <rackerz> released*(
[10:48] <alesdoc> ianmacgregor: it works...thanks a lot
[10:48] <ianmacgregor> alesdoc: You're welcome :)
[10:48] <per> no it did it
[10:49] <per> i can only extract the file
[10:49] <kupesoft> When's the release time!?
[10:49] <MatthewV> !ef
[10:49] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:49] <encompass> heh?  what does the file name end with ?  .deb?
[10:49] <Neil3> nobody knows
[10:49] <per> yes
[10:49] <ianmacgregor> per: It's a tarball, extract is all you can do with it.
[10:49] <AlexC_> Hi, yes erm - I'm having withdrawl symptons from the lack of Edgy Eft .. I'm wondering what command I can use to help me recover from the lack of Edgy Eft?
[10:50] <encompass> ianmacgregor: he is installing a deb now
[10:50] <ianmacgregor> encompass: Oh, my bad
[10:50] <ehird> alexc_: topic topic topic TOPIC
[10:50] <Goshawk> hi, is there anyone that know how to set an ubuntu installation as a gateway/router?
[10:50] <osama> apt-get dist-downgrade
[10:50] <encompass> per: try this at the Terminal...
[10:50] <CorpseFeeder> how do I do *anything* with a DC10+ card in ubuntu? I am totally stuck.
[10:50] <elkbuntu> AlexC_, please take idle comments out of the main support channel, thankyou
[10:50] <per> ok
[10:50] <AlexC_> aww ok, sorry :P
[10:50] <Schalken> AlexC_: killall %user
[10:50] <AlexC_> Schalken: Thanks! lol
[10:51] <encompass> per what version of ubuntu are you on?
[10:51] <thee> if I dist-upgrade to edgy will all the customization I have made to dapper remain unchanged(like gfxboot)
[10:51] <per> 5.10
[10:51] <CorpseFeeder> i am so stuck I've run out of questions to ask which might help me make this card work.
[10:51] <per> the same happens in the terminal too
[10:51] <encompass> hmm that explains it.
[10:51] <GNAM> all is a big word,. thee
[10:51] <encompass> ok at the terminsall do this...
[10:52] <elkbuntu> thee, technically yes, although you may have to decide in a few instances which config to use
[10:52] <encompass> per... sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb
[10:52] <okn> anyone installed Maya 8 on ubuntu ?
[10:52] <encompass> did it work?
[10:52] <per> i try :)
[10:52] <DBO> thee, it is generally a better decision to use the developers updated config files
[10:52] <DBO> thee, saves a lot of headaches down the road
[10:53] <encompass> per thanks for being patient
[10:53] <per> no thank you
[10:53] <thee> thanks DBO, elkubuntu & GNAM ;)
[10:53] <encompass> per 6.06 has a nice graphical installer... makes things really easy for beginners now...
[10:54] <encompass> per: you like opera?
[10:54] <per> yes
[10:54] <encompass> per have you tried the new firefox?
[10:54] <okn> firefox 2 kicksass
[10:55] <encompass> I hear it is a little faster
[10:55] <savvas> we're all waiting edgy to update to 2 :p
[10:55] <okn> hey got a question
[10:55] <per> first i have learn how too install prog in ubuntu
[10:55] <okn> is there a downloadable 64bit version of Ubuntu  ?
[10:55] <Schalken> where can i see edgy's final artwork?
[10:55] <per> sudo dpkg -i opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[10:55] <alesdoc> okin: yes of course
[10:55] <per> like that
[10:55] <okn> and after i install it, do i need to compile or is it binary ?
[10:55] <savvas> correct per
[10:55] <encompass> per... 99 percent of what you install you can use synaptic for... it is found in yout systems menu in administration
[10:55] <elkbuntu> Schalken, when it's released :)
[10:55] <alesdoc> okn: yes of course
[10:55] <CorpseFeeder> yes.. when is firefox 2 going to be added to synaptic?
[10:55] <okn> alesdoc : ofcourse to what ? Compilation :P ?
[10:56] <okn> alesdoc : or binary ?
[10:56] <encompass> okn jsut download the iso and it works... al binary
[10:56] <okn> hmm cool
[10:56] <per> but i did it find opera there or the new version of firefox
[10:56] <thee> okn : http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[10:56] <Schalken> elkbuntu: oh so they haven't released the artwork otherwise?
[10:56] <alesdoc> okn: of course there is a downloadable version of 64bit for ubuntu
[10:56] <TheGateKeeper> okn: you will need to install 32bit apps to get things like flash & codecs working
[10:56] <rohan> hi all
[10:56] <okn> think i say it in the cover of Linux dev. magazine..let me buy the mag :)
[10:56] <rohan> how many hours approx till 6.10 is out ?
[10:56] <elkbuntu> Schalken, if you're a tester, you will have seen it
[10:56] <okn> say/saw
[10:56] <MatthewV> !ef
[10:56] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> okn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:57] <rohan> MatthewV: lol thanks :D
[10:57] <Fyda> Hi. I was wondering if it would be safe to upgrade now to the current RC, and then receive the Final version's updates through Synaptic tomorrow? Is there a difference, eg. are there (serious) bugs in the RC that are only fixed in the Final, which would warrant waiting till tomorrow to download anything?
[10:57] <Stormx2> Almost done upgrading to edgy ;-) This is gonna go wrong.....
[10:57] <encompass> per... did it work for you?
[10:57] <per> no
[10:57] <okn> Did anyone installed Maya 8 64 ?
[10:58] <xipietotec> Stormx2: I upgraded to the last RC a few days ago, beryl works now :D
[10:58] <Stormx2> beryl?
[10:58] <okn> ok last question, ubuntu includes gnome and kubuntu kde right ??
[10:58] <elkbuntu> Stormx2, edgy's version of compiz
[10:59] <alesdoc> okn: kubuntu for kde
[10:59] <rohan> okn: yes
[10:59] <CorpseFeeder> what sort of animal is an eft?
[10:59] <DBO> Schalken, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45434  if you want the community stuff, otherwise its the same thing you have in dapper
[10:59] <encompass> per what did it do?
[10:59] <okn> thanx guys
[10:59] <MatthewV> CorpseFeeder, ask in -offtopic
[10:59] <osama> beryl-project.org
[10:59] <momal> Stormx2: umm beryl isn't necassary edgy lol.. you can use dapper with beryl lol. #beryl
[10:59] <DBO> s/dapper/breezy/
[10:59] <xipietotec> Beryl is a superior version of compiz
[11:00] <Schalken> DBO: are you saying its the same crap that was in knot 3?
[11:00] <DBO> Schalken, no the same stuff in breezy
[11:00] <encompass> CorpseFeeder: didn't I play you in tremulous onse or twice?
[11:00] <DBO> i screwed up =P
[11:00] <encompass> CorpseFeeder: if so nice to see you in #ubuntu
[11:00] <per> it says it can get access to the arkiv or no file or filestructur
[11:00] <Schalken> DBO: im confused...the are using breezy artwork in edgy?
[11:01] <Schalken> they*
[11:01] <DBO> Schalken, yeah long story
[11:01] <DBO> Schalken, if you want to know more ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <encompass> hmm let me see what I may have done wrong here..
[11:01] <Stormx2> I hate myself. I tried to copy a line from the updgrade dialog and thoughlessly pressed ctrl+c
[11:01] <per> how to you highlight my name
[11:01] <Stormx2> Now its giving me loads of dependancy problems. Suggestions?
[11:01] <encompass> per it depends on the chat program you are usings
[11:02] <per> ok
[11:02] <thee> Stormx2: sudo dpkg -configure -a
[11:02] <Stormx2> Okay. I'm using the update rool, will that work?
[11:02] <rohan> Stormx2: yes
[11:02] <rohan> that will work
[11:02] <Stormx2> Thanks. Ill write it down.
[11:02] <encompass> can we do a personally chat per?  I can focus on your problem there
[11:03] <per> ok
[11:04] <encompass> per try this... http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=28354%2C28352&location=204&sub=++++&x=172&y=16
[11:04] <mcquaid> I'm having quality issues with mp3 playback in gstreamer apps like rhythmbox.  I noticed there isn't mad for gstreamer .10
[11:04] <mcquaid> is there anything else that provides mp3 playback besides fluendo for gstreamer?
[11:04] <encompass> per that should do it for you... hope it helps I have to get back to class see you now...
[11:05] <brong> grr
[11:05] <defrysk> mcquaid, apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mp3
[11:05] <ehird> gstreamer isn't gapless, is it?
[11:05] <Stormx2> ehird: depends on what is using it.
[11:06] <ehird> stormx2: so basically it needs hacks to be gapless? darn :(
[11:06] <per> thanks for helping me :) ENCOMPASS
[11:06] <ehird> (i'm thinking on the line of silence removers here, if it's just a bit of coding that doesn't effect non-gapless-transitions like that then that's fine)
[11:06] <Stormx2> ehird: I don't think so. gapless involves buffering a new file while the old one is still playing. Thats not what gstreamer does.
[11:06] <Tidus> hooray for flash 9 on linux
[11:06] <bianconeri> so is this Dapper or Edgy now:D?
[11:07] <ehird> stormx2: yeah, i've just heard stuff about it being very un-gapless indeed. but meh :P
[11:07] <InvisiblePinkUni> bianconeri: its Ubuntu :)
[11:07] <SdobSiSdub> .
[11:07] <ehird> as long as amarok can play my flacs alright :P
[11:07] <rohan> bianconeri: edgy is yet to be releases
[11:07] <rohan> *released
[11:08] <defrysk> uses rhythmbox
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> bianconeri: don't think edge has fully released yet
[11:09] <TiDuS`> I need info of ubuntu
[11:09] <RancidLM> how do i enable the resolution 1600x1200 its in my xorg but its not in my resolution list in gnome nor is it in xrandr  any suggestions?
[11:09] <ehird> freebsd_fan: Nice nick.
[11:09] <davidwinter> hi all
[11:09] <babwe2> hi all is there a nfo creator in the repo for Ubuntu Drake
[11:09] <davidwinter> is there a scheduled release time for Edgy today?
[11:10] <rohan> ;ef
[11:10] <thee> !ef
[11:10] <MatthewV> !ef
[11:10] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:10] <rohan> !ef
[11:10] <nomad111> hi all i want to kno the commands that show me my ip address and routing table
[11:10] <freebsd_fan> yeah thanx
[11:10] <freebsd_fan> :)
[11:10] <davidwinter> thanks :) that's all I wanted to know :)
[11:10] <osama> ifconfig ... route
[11:10] <justthisguy> nomad111: ifconfig and route
[11:10] <osama> :)
[11:10] <MatthewV> !resolution | RancidLM
[11:10] <ubotu> RancidLM: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> RancidLM: go & have another look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure your monitor supports that res, that the horz & vert sync are correct etc etc
[11:11] <nomad111> justthisguy: route does a trace route right
[11:11] <nomad111> ?
[11:11] <valehru> Does anyone know a good chinese -> english vice versa dictionary that I could use in ubuntu?  also need it for japanese as well.
[11:11] <justthisguy> nomad111: no, route shows your kernel routing table. traceroute does a trace route :)
[11:12] <nomad111> justthisguy: u are a life saver
[11:12] <RancidLM> MatthewV:  i  found the problem my monitor is only capable of 1680x1050 max. but im stuck running it at 1440x900 because max res doesn't render fonts correctly.. any suggestions?
[11:12] <osama> valehru, google language tools?
[11:13] <MatthewV> RancidLM, i'm no x expert, but if its possible to hit maxres and its only fonts that cause issues then, i would say its probably a problem with fonts...
[11:13] <yangsup> xchat isrc
[11:13] <ehird> i never understand people who say they want to use 1600x1200, as i haven't found 1 anywhere near sanely-priced TFT screen with that as its native resolution
[11:13] <RancidLM> MatthewV: aight thnx though :)
[11:13] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:14] <Sp4rKy> i need some help about live CD
[11:14] <DBO> ehird, CRT
[11:14] <MatthewV> Sp4rKy, just ask away!
[11:14] <Sp4rKy> i modify the live CD
[11:14] <ehird> DBO: well my CRT can do that too but if you're using a CRT i must wonder how you care about video quality :p
[11:14] <Sp4rKy> MatthewV: ??
[11:14] <howieson26> !de
[11:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> and i want to set the default keyboard to fr
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> or better, correctly autodetect the keyboard
[11:15] <DBO> ehird, CRT's give better pictures and nothing with convince me otherwise, but we are offtopic
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> but at start, the live set english keyboard (qwerty)
[11:15] <ivoks> howdy
[11:15] <Zindar> Sp4rKy: system->settings->keyboard
[11:15] <Zindar> change there
[11:15] <Sp4rKy> Zindar: without X
[11:15] <CorpseFeeder> when ubuntu starts up the background colour before the desktop picture loads is always brown. How do I change the colour of this?
[11:16] <abc> Hello, i need some help. May i ask a question?
[11:16] <Sp4rKy> !ask
[11:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:16] <tonyyserver> !ask
[11:16] <abc> I saw on ubuntu.com that 6.10's final version has been released, but on the download page, i cant find any site that lets me download the 6.10 version
[11:16] <BladeSling> Ohh joy... 1000 people here to help..
[11:16] <abc> Can someone tell me from where should i get 6.10?
[11:16] <abc> i tried to look at the ubuntu site, but all the download lists had 6.06 ISOs
[11:16] <shawarma> !ef
[11:16] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:16] <ivoks> abc: from nowhere yet
[11:16] <ehird> wow, 1000 users
[11:16] <MatthewV> CorpseFeeder, not sure, but System --> Administration --> Login Window (colour options) may help
[11:16] <ehird> guess now would be a good time to ask a problem i've been having eh :p
[11:17] <JoseStefan> abc, later in the day
[11:17] <nikin> 1030 :D
[11:17] <babwe2> anyone know where t find a nfo creator and reader
[11:17] <abc> But the ubuntu.com main page says that 6.10 released, that is the main line on that page!
[11:17] <Sp4rKy> so without X, how can i set the default keyboard layout ?
[11:17] <nikin> nfo? like the windows one?
[11:17] <tarzeau> Sp4rKy: for console? loadkeys
[11:17] <tarzeau> Sp4rKy: otherwise in the x config file, inside x using setxkbmap
[11:17] <shawarma> abc: Are you perhaps behind some sort of caching proxy?
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> abc: takes them time to get everything in place
[11:17] <babwe2> dont want t us wine
[11:18] <tarzeau> babwe2: tetradraw
[11:18] <hysua> abc: doesnt say that for me
[11:18] <Four23619> does anyone know if Edgy Eft will support the Intel DP965LT motherboard?
[11:18] <JoseStefan> abc, minor communication mistake, 6.10 will be released today, but the webmaster changed the page too early
[11:18] <Mikch> abc: it does not say it anymore :)
[11:18] <babwe2> yh somethng like the windoze ones
[11:18] <shawarma> abc: The release notification was accidentally put on the front page for half an hour or so, but it's been remove again.
[11:18] <babwe2> thanks
[11:18] <Sp4rKy> tarzeau: it's on the live CD system, so xorg.conf doesn't exist in the iso file , it will be created during startup
[11:18] <BladeSling> Alright, So I have a Blitzz BWI715 wireless network card.  I need help setting this up on ubuntu, otherwise it is useless to me because I can't update it or anything.
[11:18] <abc> shawarma: i am not behind any proxy whatsoever
[11:19] <shawarma> abc: Then tell your webbrowser to really refresh that page.
[11:19] <abc> Yeah now they removed that story from the main page
[11:19] <abc> but today morning i saw it
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> abc: http://www.ubuntu.com/  <-- still talking about rc1
[11:19] <abc> maybe later today they may allow us to download it
[11:19] <tim--> i'm excited..  what a nerd.  /o\
[11:19] <Four23619> anyone?
[11:19] <per> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[11:19] <tim--> i suspect it'd be a massive waste of my time to sit here and watch my screen until it's released..
[11:20] <ehird> tim-- dude, you're in a room FULL of nerds
[11:20] <ehird> per: that's the RC!!!!
[11:20] <tim--> heh
[11:20] <per> ok sorry about that
[11:20] <tonyyserver> tim--: Yeah, but that's how we're all wasting today ;)
[11:20] <MasseR> If you have dappers installed why don't you just upgrade from it?
[11:20] <MasseR> And download and burn the image later?
[11:20] <abc> So, is it 100% sure that at this time, i CANNOT download Ubuntu 6.10 from anywhere? And that later today it will be available?
[11:21] <DBO> yes
[11:21] <tim--> i might ring my isp and up my bandwidth..  heh
[11:21] <abc> MasseR: Dapper aint installed
[11:21] <BladeSling> Alright, So I have a Blitzz BWI715 wireless network card.  I need help setting this up on ubuntu, otherwise it is useless to me because I can't update it or anything.
[11:21] <mikl> abc: if you find the final images somewhere, let us know ;)
[11:21] <mikl> abc: but all the mirrors still only carry the RC
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | BladeSling
[11:21] <ubotu> BladeSling: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> Maybe that helps
[11:22] <tim--> BladeSling, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List  <-- might be able to get some info there too
[11:22] <dennis-> what's the codename of 6.10?
[11:22] <abc> yes i checked many countries' mirror, and no-one got the final release as of now, maybe later today
[11:22] <elliot> Edgy Eft
[11:22] <|Bot|> hi ) i try upgrade dist tot edgy - and small problem from install  FF
[11:22] <|Bot|> Unpacking replacement firefox-dev ...
[11:22] <|Bot|> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-dev_2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:22] <|Bot|>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/firefox/regxpcom', which is also in package firefox
[11:22] <|Bot|> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[11:22] <|Bot|> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:22] <|Bot|>  /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-dev_2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[11:22] <|Bot|> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:23] <dennis-> elliot: so i should replace dapper with edgy when i want to update?
[11:23] <xipietotec> The next development release is Frolicking Fawn Bambi Twinkles.
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> !paste | |Bot|
[11:23] <ubotu> |Bot|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:23] <|Bot|> how can help me ? )
[11:23] <hoelk> hmm
[11:23] <|Bot|> sorry
[11:23] <|Bot|> sorry
[11:23] <hoelk> im not sure if im 100% content with gewnview, any other picture viewer to recommend?
[11:23] <elliot> dennis-: If you think it would be best. Its optional, dapper still has a LOOOOONG support life ahead of it
[11:23] <Zajjko|work> hoelk: The native one in ubuntu? Gthumb?
[11:23] <ehird> elliot: impersonator
[11:23] <mikl> |Bot|: just remove the old firefox and reinstall the new one
[11:24] <elliot> ehird: sorry?
[11:24] <mikl> |Bot|: apt-get remove firefox && apt-get install firefox
[11:24] <ehird> elliot: you stole my name, minus one t :(
[11:24] <|Bot|> mikl# ok )
[11:24] <ehird> :D
[11:24] <hoelk> zajjko: im on kde
[11:24] <timhaughton> Anyone ever seen Ubuntu on a Panel PC?
[11:24] <hoelk> Zajjko|work the native one is gewenview here
[11:24] <hoelk> ;)
[11:24] <savvas> elliot: how much would that 'LOOOOONG' be in human days,months,years? :p
[11:24] <Zajjko|work> hoelk: right, but shouldn't you be able to install it seperately anyway?
[11:25] <Zajjko|work> hoelk: sorry, my bad
[11:25] <elliot> savvas: god knows!
[11:25] <hoelk> Zajjko, ill try gthumb
[11:25] <elliot> it has a long support life on it though
[11:26] <thee> hoelk:GQview
[11:26] <dsewnr_> Anyone know how to convert pdf to doc?
[11:26] <osama> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2Cdebian%2Cfedora%2Csuse%2Credhat&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
[11:26] <|Bot|> mikl# not worked %\ need options for no-deps
[11:26] <guillem101> hoelk, I'm pretty happy with gthumb
[11:27] <elliot> dsewnr_: maybe, give me a mo
[11:27] <guillem101> hoelk, but my needs are pretty simple
[11:27] <guillem101> hoelk, fspot looks promising (the time-gap selection is a good thing)
[11:27] <xipietotec> osama: Ubuntu! FTW!
[11:28] <dsewnr_> elliot: The "mo" means what ?
[11:28] <elliot> dsewnr_: nah, only the other way round. Try saving it as a text file (and it means moment)
[11:28] <mikl> |Bot|: I don't really understand that...?
[11:28] <savvas> osama: http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2Cdebian%2Cfedora%2Csuse%2Cwindows&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
[11:28] <savvas> :p
[11:28] <assasukasse> hello, i have a big problem with apt-get could someone give a look please
[11:28] <assasukasse> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284749
[11:28] <osama> savvas,  :)
[11:28] <dsewnr_> elliot: Thx, let me try it. : )
[11:28] <elliot> assasukasse: sure, I am in a problem solving mood today
[11:29] <FearMoth> how can I do a text-mode install with the kubuntu dapper livecd?
[11:29] <rohan> assasukasse: ask, dont ask to ask :)
[11:29] <|Bot|> mikl# one monets ) i paste it to pastebin
[11:29] <MatthewV> FearMoth, you cant, you will need the alternate cd
[11:29] <assasukasse> thank elliot
[11:29] <kihai> FearMoth: You can't. You need the alternate cd
[11:29] <FearMoth> oh ok thanks
[11:29] <assasukasse> rohan and elliot is better you look at this, i posted the error http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284749
[11:29] <kihai> Ups, 8 secs too slow... :)
[11:30] <dirmass> hello
[11:30] <encompass> dirmass: howdy
[11:30] <elliot> assasukasse: hmm, looks like your repositories are slightly broken
[11:30] <rohan> assasukasse: ok, looking
[11:30] <assasukasse> elliot i totally agree...but what to do
[11:30] <elliot> assasukasse: You got some duplicates which you can safely ignore for the moment
[11:30] <monad> hi... can anyone help getting direct rendering with fglrx running?
[11:30] <elliot> assasukasse: Looking at the rest now
[11:31] <Mukunda> Gah, how much longer till release.
[11:31] <dirmass> I have a small problem, on dapper up to date, when I click the update manager From System > Update-manager I enter the admin pass, but the GUI doesnt load
[11:31] <rohan> !ef
[11:31] <ubotu> Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:31] <rohan> Mukunda: that helps ? :D
[11:31] <Tatey> hmm?
[11:31] <monad> hi... can anyone help getting direct rendering with fglrx running?
[11:31] <elliot> assasukasse: open a terminal and type: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:32] <Mukunda> The tip is to not use fglrx, if you want to use proprietary software there is this operating system called Windows.
[11:32] <elliot> Mukunda: for many people fglrx is the only choice to play games at a decent speed
[11:32] <monad> mukunda: i got fglrx running on gentoo and on kubuntu, too - updateing to dapper recently broke it
[11:32] <dirmass> hmmm, Mikunda, what about mp3s : )
[11:32] <assasukasse> elliot i am there
[11:32] <dirmass> proprietary ?
[11:32] <Artemis3> seriously, closed propietary video drivers are a big problem
[11:33] <assasukasse> elliot i prefer vi :D
[11:33] <MatthewV> !fglrx | monad
[11:33] <ubotu> monad: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:33] <Mukunda> dirmass: there are free software mp3 decoders, screw the patents.
[11:33] <dirmass> Can I make a suggestion for Edgy?
[11:33] <Stormx2> OHMIGAWD
[11:33] <ehird> question: if i clean-install edgy today, will it be easy to switch to kde and remove gnome+ gnome applications to save space?
[11:33] <Artemis3> i rather play games in windows than making my linux distro unstable with em
[11:33] <Stormx2> It almost works!!!
[11:33] <rwscold> automatix....easy ubuntu]
[11:33] <elliot> assasukasse: ok, can you go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste in the contents of your sources.list file?
[11:33] <Stormx2> I *actually* upgraded and X still works!
[11:33] <mvo> dirmass: if you open a termianl and type "gksu update-manager" there, what does it print then?
[11:33] <ehird> using kubuntu right now but its lack of build-essentials and other things is annoying
[11:33] <aldin> fglrx: what about XGL lol
[11:34] <dirmass> mvo: I just fixed it, reinstalled the package
[11:34] <livingdaylight> 10:34 GMT
[11:34] <oobea> how can i update my install to edgy beta with apt-get?
[11:34] <monad> ubotu: already did all that
[11:34] <elliot> assasukasse: vi it is. it makes no difference, a text editor is all you need
[11:34] <LuisMendes> well it's kinda late now.. where is edgy? :P
[11:34] <elo23>  apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:35] <rohan> !ef | LuisMendes
[11:35] <ubotu> LuisMendes: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:35] <MatthewV> oobea, change every instance of dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list to edgy, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:35] <elliot> assasukasse: have you pastebinned it? post the link
[11:35] <dirmass> Can I make a suggestion for Edgy? Here: After the user does a fresh install of the OS, There should be a link to Automatix or EasyUbuntu in the README on the desktop
[11:35] <xzk> I heard on digg.com that a new version of ubuntu was released. Is this true?
[11:35] <livingdaylight> We are EDGING ever closer to the FULL RELEASE!
[11:35] <rohan> dirmass: ubuntu would be an accessory to crime in that case, i think
[11:35] <rohan> dirmass: i had read to that effect somewhere
[11:35] <ivoks> xzk: it's lie, lie i tell you :)
[11:35] <savvas> does anyone know how many mbs will the distro have as an update?
[11:36] <MatthewV> !ef | xzk
[11:36] <ubotu> xzk: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:36] <upt1me> neccisito disco compacto de edgy
[11:36] <xzk> oh man!
[11:36] <Bart> I was afk... does sbd have some news from edgy eft ?
[11:36] <elkbuntu> Attention please everyone: Edgy Eft has **NOT** been released yet. Could offtopic discussion (non-ubuntu-support discussion) please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thankyou
[11:36] <xzk> I wanted a new version :).. with Flash 9
[11:36] <assasukasse> elliott its on pastebin
[11:36] <rohan> xzk: read the topic .. it was just digg spam
[11:36] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me libjavaplugin_oji.so?
[11:36] <oobea> thx MathewV :)
[11:36] <Bart> thx :)
[11:36] <dirmass> rohan: I'm very sure it's all legal, A brief explanation about codecs and where the get the easily
[11:36] <xzk> Will the new version of Ubuntu have Flash 9?
[11:36] <elliot> assasukasse: great give me a link
[11:36] <rohan> xzk: i don't think so
[11:36] <dirmass> its just an explanation
[11:36] <MatthewV> dirmass, that is already at !codecs
[11:37] <ivoks> xzk: ubuntu never had flash
[11:37] <xzk> How do I install Flash 9 then? :(
[11:37] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me libjavaplugin_oji.so? (or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.)
[11:37] <ivoks> xzk: it's illegal to have it
[11:37] <rohan> dirmass: ah, you maybe right .. kubuntu now includes a codecs installer :D
[11:37] <xzk> it's illegal?
[11:37] <dirmass> so newbies dont get annoyed because they can't play their mp3s
[11:37] <rohan> with amarok
[11:37] <ivoks> xzk: btw, flash9 isn't released yet
[11:37] <xzk> Adobe released Flash 9.. it's not illegal
[11:37] <elkbuntu> !flash
[11:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:37] <rohan> xzk: its not released yet
[11:37] <elkbuntu> gah.. stupid thing
[11:37] <xzk> Flash 9 Beta.. from Adobe
[11:37] <MatthewV> xzk, you can always check the adobe website... and install the one from there
[11:37] <gneral> hi
[11:37] <assasukasse> elliott pastebin gave me an error i try to post again
[11:37] <rohan> xzk: as you said, "beta"
[11:37] <gneral> I cant install adobe fp7 to firefox 2 , how to ? :[
[11:37] <ivoks> xzk: right, it's illegal - only adobe can distribute it; ubuntu can't
[11:38] <xzk> I don't know how to install things on linux.. without using the Synaptic thing :(
[11:38] <rohan> yes, but ubuntu can distribute a script to install flash- which is exactly what it does :)
[11:38] <elliot> assasukasse: ok, otherwise try another paste bin. Please spell my name 'elliot' and with a colon. then I can see it red in xchat
[11:38] <dirmass> ubotu: I'm not having any issues, I'm just making a suggestion to include A BRIEF explanation about "Automatix and EasyUbuntu"  in the README after the fresh install of Ubuntu
[11:38] <ivoks> rohan: right :)
[11:38] <MistaED> xzk: flash 9 is still beta, but you can download it still and copy-paste the plugin into firefox, or my favourite /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ (overwriting flash 7)
[11:38] <rohan> ivoks: :)
[11:38] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me libjavaplugin_oji.so, or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit)
[11:38] <ivoks> rohan: same goes with decss :)
[11:38] <rohan> gh0st: only that single file won't help
[11:38] <rwscold> dirmass automatix and easy ubuntu help install illegal things into ubuntu!
[11:38] <rohan> ivoks: ah, that too
[11:38] <xzk> MistaED: whats the difference in the 2
[11:39] <gh0st> rohan: it will for me
[11:39] <ehird> this is confusing, i keep typing stuff to people who talk to elliot
[11:39] <assasukasse> elliot, here is the pastebin http://rafb.net/paste/results/UUCk3A89.html
[11:39] <xzk> copy paste plugin into firefox.. and the other one
[11:39] <rohan> rwscold: exactly ! which is why they can't even include a reference to it in the docs
[11:39] <elliot> assasukasse: sorry!
[11:39] <gh0st> rohan: i just need the plugin for ff 64 bit with nspluginwrapper
[11:39] <elliot> assasukasse: sorry wrong person. THanks for that
[11:39] <dirmass> rwscold: give me an example of ILLEGAL stuff on easyubuntu.....?
[11:39] <elliot> ehird: sorry!
[11:39] <hypertevi> hi ;-)
[11:39] <rohan> gh0st: ok, my bad then. :)
[11:39] <thee> sudo update-manager -c  says new distribution available???
[11:39] <rwscold> thats what i'm saying rohan
[11:39] <rohan> dirmass: th codecs
[11:40] <dirmass> and tell me how it is ILLEGAL to post a link to www.easyubuntu.com
[11:40] <MistaED> xzk: version 7 might get looked at still by browsers, and the second approach will make it overwrite version 7 (but you need access privileges to copy it over there, also you need to make sure ubuntu doesn
[11:40] <assasukasse> no prob elliot
[11:40] <rohan> dirmass: "Accessory to crime"
[11:40] <livingdaylight> Does anyone know anything behind the thinking of the name EDGY EFT?
[11:40] <elliot> assasukasse: give me 5mins to fix thsi up
[11:40] <MistaED> 't overwrite it with version 7 if that gets an update)
[11:40] <elkbuntu> rwscold, please stop the FUD
[11:40] <hypertevi> i'm upgrading to edgy, ^^
[11:40] <gh0st> rohan: do you have it? iit would be very nice if i could have it :-)
[11:40] <MatthewV> livingdaylight, ask in -offtopic
[11:40] <hypertevi> but it's slow..
[11:40] <elliot> livingdaylight: yes because its edgy and an eft is a young newt thing
[11:40] <rohan> livingdaylight: there was a mailing list post about it, i can't find it now though
[11:40] <rohan> gh0st: i'd love to help, but I don't have ubuntu or java installed atm :)
[11:40] <livingdaylight> rohan: i never got it
[11:40] <dirmass> rohan: Then howcome there is an "EasyUbuntu" Forum on "www.ubuntu.com" and howcome there is an Automatix forum on "www.ubuntu.com" ILLEGAL?
[11:40] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me libjavaplugin_oji.so, or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit)
[11:41] <livingdaylight> elliot: thx, kinda explains it
[11:41] <rohan> dirmass: which country are the forums hosted in ?
[11:41] <Cyber_Nany> isnt linux barelly legal ?
[11:41] <rwscold> dirmass the forums are maintained and written by who?
[11:41] <Artemis3> -_-
[11:41] <xzk> Would anyone mind remotely connecting to my PC and installing Flash 9 Beta for me, I'm helpless
[11:41] <rwscold> ya me too haha
[11:42] <livingdaylight> i just read Mark Shuttleworths Forward in the Official Ubuntu Book. He explains why the first release was called Warty. lol
[11:42] <thoreauputic> rohan: dirmass and others please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:42] <dirmass> rohan: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ : 3rd Party Projects : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=86
[11:42] <rohan> thoreauputic: ok, i will stfu about it here :)
[11:42] <rwscold> thor they are talking about ubuntu related issues
[11:42] <dirmass> rohan: Accesory to crime
[11:42] <livingdaylight> is there now a new place called the fridge?
[11:42] <dirmass> ?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> please discuss automatix/easyubuntu elsewhere to keep the temperature down here :)
[11:42] <dirmass> ok
[11:42] <livingdaylight> !fridge
[11:42] <ubotu> fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[11:42] <rwscold> deal
[11:42] <elliot> assasukasse: why do you have multiverse and universe at the same time in one line?
[11:42] <livingdaylight> wow
[11:42] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough "search"), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit)
[11:43] <tonyyserver> xzk: That could probably be arranged if you trust any random person to install stuff for you.  Would likely be better to try to read the instructions and be walked through it, but yeah, it could be done.
[11:43] <thee> Use update manager everyone. I am upgrading to 6.10 .
[11:43] <rohan> gh0st: wait, i'll do it
[11:43] <stromp> is it done?
[11:43] <rohan> i found it :)
[11:43] <Cyber_Nany> dont forget to FLOSS
[11:43] <mnepton> gh0st: install it via apt-get
[11:43] <xzk> tonyyserver: would you do it for me :)
[11:43] <assasukasse> elliott i don't know i didn't manually edit them
[11:43] <livingdaylight> NEWS!
[11:43] <gh0st> rohan: but you don't have ubuntu?
[11:43] <ehird> Cyber_Nany: linux barely legal? what?
[11:43] <livingdaylight> Ubuntu has walked away with Best Distribution at the Linux Awards held in London last night.
[11:43] <rohan> gh0st: yes, but i do have java
[11:43] <assasukasse> elliot i don't know i didn't manually edit them
[11:43] <gh0st> mnepton:? not possible, it's just a single file i need
[11:43] <tonyyserver> xzk: Step into ##tonyyarusso
[11:43] <rohan> gh0st: and the plugin remains the same
[11:43] <livingdaylight> !fridge
[11:43] <ubotu> fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[11:43] <elliot> assasukasse: ok, this could take a while
[11:44] <livingdaylight> check it out
[11:44] <Cyber_Nany> linux is basically UNIX reloaded
[11:44] <gh0st> rohan: i'm not sure about this
[11:44] <rohan> gh0st:   http://rapidshare.com/files/732312/libjavaplugin_oji.so.html
[11:44] <rohan> i am
[11:44] <mnepton> gh0st: the Sun Java Moz plugin is in Multiverse
[11:44] <gh0st> ok thanks
[11:44] <rohan> if the plugin is all you need, then this'll do, gh0st
[11:44] <gypsymauro> so where it's that edgy?
[11:44] <gh0st> thanks rohan, will try now!
[11:44] <rohan> !ef | gypsymauro
[11:44] <ubotu> gypsymauro: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:44] <mnepton> the plugin is useless without a JRE
[11:44] <rohan> mnepton: which is what i told him at the very beginning
[11:44] <gh0st> mnepton: i do have jre, but amd64 version!!
[11:45] <gh0st> mnepton that mean WITHOUT plugin
[11:45] <rohan> gh0st: the link works ?
[11:45] <NineTeen67Comet> Any handy xorg/nvidia/3D tweekers in here? (my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28400/) .. I've got 4 monitors, two video cards, and it's all working .. just a little laggy and glx seems to come and go ...
[11:45] <mnepton> and you're using mozwrapper or a chroot for Firefox?
[11:46] <assasukasse> i was wondering if i should reinstall from scratch the edgy final or if it will just be fine to update.
[11:46] <ehird> bah, i need edgy :(
[11:46] <gh0st> mnepton: nspluginwrapper, but i'm nor sure if the plugin for windows does also work for linux
[11:46] <mvo> assasukasse: updating should usually be fine
[11:46] <livingdaylight> will the real EDGY stand?!
[11:46] <Naked_Snake> Excuse me, is there a way to connect to AOL with Ubuntu?
[11:46] <rohan> ehird: we all do :D
[11:47] <livingdaylight> Canonicals Jane Silber was there to pick up the award, a transparent, and extremely sharp glass trophy with the wording UBUNTU engraved into the glassword. Jane spent the rest of the evening closely guarding her new toy.
[11:47] <gh0st> rohan: well it's what i tought: not compatible with linux :-(
[11:47] <Mukunda> Hrmm hopefully Edgy will run on my laptop, and be better than Fedora 6 (which ended up being crap). I really can't be bothered going back to Gentoo.
[11:47] <rohan> someone said something to be, just as i quit ? :D
[11:47] <gh0st> mnepton: do you have libjavaplugin_oji.so (on ubuntu 32bit), if so, could you upload it on rapidshare.de, please?
[11:47] <rohan> gh0st: didn't i just upload the file for you ? :P
[11:47] <elliot> assasukasse: go to http://ccdc.kicks-ass.org/sources.list and replace your current sources.list with it
[11:47] <ehird> rohan: :D. I just hope ueagleatm still works
[11:47] <gh0st> rohan: well it's what i tought: not compatible with linux :-(
[11:48] <rohan> ehird: hehe ok :)
[11:48] <mnepton> gh0st: i'm fairly sure there's a 64 bit plugin from Sun
[11:48] <elliot> assasukasse: try updating with that
[11:48] <rohan> gh0st: i am on 32bit machine
[11:48] <Cyber_Nany> do you think one can rate a channel friendlyness by the number of similes being used ? :)
[11:48] <rohan> ok, i am off now .. bye all, i wish next time i am here, edgy is out :D \o/
[11:48] <assasukasse> elliot thanks i try to go there
[11:48] <oobea> Edgy/6.10 is out
[11:48] <gh0st> mnepton: no, they don't have one, it's even written on their dl -site: Please use the 32-bit version for Java applet and Java Web Start support.
[11:48] <Mukunda> oobea: it is?
[11:49] <elliot> Celebrate EDGY EFT IS HERE!
[11:49] <Mukunda> Hrmm.. nothing on the front page.
[11:49] <gh0st> mnepton: can you send it to me? i just need it to wrap it for amd64
[11:49] <mnepton> gh0st: sudo apt-get install gcjwebplugin
[11:49] <MatthewV> oobea, who says?
[11:49] <ehird> It's out???
[11:49] <oobea> "New distribution release '6.10' is available"
[11:49] <ehird> oh. no web release.
[11:49] <monad> still no direct rendering with fglrx, it's still set on mesa
[11:49] <oobea> That's what my software update manager says.
[11:49] <xzk> I was just told it's not out.. who says it is?
[11:50] <teckfatt> oobea: send the link pls
[11:50] <monad> what could i have forgotten?
[11:50] <Naked_Snake> Excuse me, is there a way to connect to AOL with Ubuntu?
[11:50] <Mukunda> ....
[11:50] <assasukasse> elliot what about automatix? should i remove it?
[11:50] <monad> ...
[11:50] <Cyber_Nany> whats AOL ?
[11:50] <guyo> [lol]
[11:50] <gh0st> mnepton: but i JUST need libjavaplugin_oji.so... do oyu have it or not?
[11:50] <MatthewV> oobea, it may now be possible to upgrade to it, but it has not yet been released
[11:50] <xzk> Naked_Snake: whats on AOL ?
[11:50] <thee> the upgrade is a 1165MB download.
[11:50] <oobea> you mean there aren't any iso's
[11:50] <Naked_Snake> It's my ISP
[11:50] <savvas> :o
[11:50] <MatthewV> until the official notice is sent out, it has NOT been released
[11:50] <elliot> assasukasse, delete the contents of your sources.list and keep everything in the version over there
[11:50] <savvas> thee: country?
[11:50] <Mukunda> Naked_Snake: that's a shame.
[11:51] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough "search"), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit)
[11:51] <mnepton> gh0st: sorry, because i'm sitting at my desk with my work hat on, sending you something like that is not something i can do.
[11:51] <monad> is really no one of you using fglrx for direct rendering on a radeon card?
[11:51] <thee> MatthewV: update manager says 6.10 is ready to be installed?
[11:51] <guyo> monad: me
[11:51] <thee> savvas: India
[11:51] <ehird> might be the RC
[11:51] <gh0st> mnepton: and use rapidshare.de?
[11:52] <CieD> gh0st, try http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[11:52] <MatthewV> thee, it may say that, and then it is possible to upgrade to the 6.10 package set (which has been frozen for hours now anyway) but it is not yet released
[11:52] <mnepton> gh0st: sending users single files to patch functionality is not something my employer would like me doing.
[11:52] <gh0st> CieD: ?!?
[11:52] <thoreauputic> gh0st: redistributing java is legally a bit tricky - why can't you install it from multiverse ?
[11:52] <monad> guyo: i installed everything necessary, reconfigured the xserver, everything several times - i'm not doing this the first time - and it's still stuck on mesa
[11:52] <ehird> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1665301#post1665301 most pointless topic ever
[11:52] <monad> guyo: i desperately need to get this running
[11:52] <CieD> gh0st, ignore me, I'm a muppett
[11:52] <CieD> :)
[11:53] <guyo> i upgraded yesterday to the latest binary from ATI without a glitch, lemme see if i can find the guide i used
[11:53] <gh0st> can't just anyone with linux  32bit upload libjavaplugin_oji.so on rapidshare.de!?
[11:53] <mnepton> gh0st: not legally, no.
[11:53] <ivoks> :)
[11:54] <gh0st> mnepton: well i DO HAVE JAVA installed, and agreed the license
[11:54] <monad> guyo: Xorg.0.log still says: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section
[11:54] <elliot> Everyone, what are your experiences of the new flash 9 plugin for linux?
[11:54] <guyo> monad: that seems an error in the xorg.conf file
[11:54] <kliklik> elliot: It's rock solid in my Firefox 2.0 (i386)
[11:54] <monad> guyo: honestly i don't think so. it's about the millionth xorg.conf i configured
[11:55] <gh0st> hello can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough "search"), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit). i just need this onre very file
[11:55] <thee> elliot: working like a charm
[11:55] <elkbuntu> gh0st, please do not yell at people who are trying to help you. it is very rude.
[11:55] <savvas> ehird: it's just a cry for help, he's referring to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284642
[11:55] <ivoks> gh0st: but other don't have license to distribute :)
[11:55] <ehird> savvas: but still
[11:55] <gh0st> elkbuntu:?
[11:55] <elliot> :) thanks killik and thee. I'll install it :)
[11:55] <assasukasse> elliot it.archive.ubuntu.com edy/main,universe,multiverse,restricted  packages is error 404
[11:55] <xzk> ehird: I replied to that post
[11:55] <monad> guyo: driver is set to fglrx, internalagpgart to no
[11:55] <gh0st> ivoks: do you really think a single plugin file will cause problems? :-)
[11:55] <elliot> delete that line then
[11:55] <assasukasse> elliot actually every it.archive is unreacheable
[11:56] <ivoks> gh0st: i don't want to find out
[11:56] <elliot> really, they worked in your build
[11:56] <monad> guyo: lsmod says fglrx is loaded and depending on
[11:56] <guyo> monad: actually i'm at work and my radeon is at home so i can't check in rt
[11:56] <monad> fglrx                 391756  8
[11:56] <monad> agpgart                36784  2 fglrx,via_agp
[11:56] <elliot> ok
[11:56] <elliot> assasukasse: OK, right. I'll generate you a sources.list
[11:56] <gh0st> well someone just gave me one version which was for windows so it didn't work
[11:56] <guyo> monad: the "no matching Device section" definitely refers to a section in xorg.conf
[11:56] <elliot> assasukasse: give me a mo. That should have worked though
[11:57] <assasukasse> elliot i remove it and leave just archive.ubuntu.com...seems italian repo are down from yesterday (from the italian ubuntu channel)
[11:57] <monad> guyo: i know, but why
[11:57] <guyo> pastebin the conf file plz
[11:57] <monad> guyo: ok
[11:57] <LookTJ> I thought edgy is out today?
[11:57] <savvas> *will be*
[11:58] <MatthewV> !ef | LookTJ
[11:58] <ubotu> LookTJ: Edgy will be released around October 26th (*some* timezone) - we don't know at precisely what time of the day it will be finalized and published for download. Please be patient!
[11:58] <guyo> i'm pretty busy, no promises, but i'll take a quick look
[11:58] <elliot> assaukasse: ok, that'll be your problem then. For future reference try http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:58] <osama> LookTJ: Read the channel Topic
[11:58] <monad> guyo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wDgqEt28.html
[11:58] <assasukasse> thanks elliot but i have another prob, says my packages are unauthenticated...what to do?
[11:58] <elliot> ok
[11:59] <elliot> assasukasse: use these commands, follow them EXACTLY
[11:59] <guyo> monad: and please your Xorg.0.log
[11:59] <elliot> assasukasse: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5
[12:00] <monad> guyo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wrBCjy10.html
[12:00] <cyzie> hello , i just install xubuntu on my sata disks. but i suspect it didnt mirror between the 2 disks. im using abit nf7-s2 and two 80GB sata disks. anyone can help?
[12:00] <elliot> assasukasse: gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:00] <elliot> assasukasse: then try
[12:00] <guyo> monad: gimme a sec
[12:01] <monad> guyo: thanks
[12:01] <assasukasse> no valid openpgp data found
[12:01] <mnepton> ladies and gentlemen .....
[12:01] <mnepton> EDGY HAS BEEN RELEASED!
[12:01] <mnepton> welcome to Ubuntu 6.10
[12:02] <elkbuntu> :)
[12:02] <justthisguy> Woo!
[12:02] <apokryphos> w00t
[12:02] <dholbach> ROCK ON
[12:02] <Bart> Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :D:D:D
[12:02] <elliot> :D:D:D:D:D:D!
[12:02] <ehird> YESSSS
[12:02] <lgm> Excellent.
[12:02] <elliot> PARTY!
[12:02] <elkbuntu> *fireworks*
[12:02] <eXistenZ> Hey
[12:02] <justthisguy> happydance!
[12:02] <ehird> Um
[12:02] <ehird> Where is it.
[12:02] <Bart> Link plz ?
[12:02] <eXistenZ> Happy Edgy Day!
[12:02] <eXistenZ> link :o
[12:02] <phire> Thank you
[12:02] <ehird> http://www.ubuntu.com/download nuttin'
[12:02] <gh0st> can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough "search"), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit, i need the one for 32bit to wrap with nspluginwrapper). i just need this one very file for my amd64.
[12:02] <assasukasse> elliot unfortunately seems not to work..
[12:03] <AlexC_> WOOT
[12:03] <elkbuntu> howeverrrrrr... offtopic (non-support) talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, leave this channel clear for support :) thankyou all!
[12:03] <ehird> I still can't find it.
[12:03] <eXistenZ> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.10/
[12:03] <cyzie> hello , i just install xubuntu on my sata disks. but i suspect it didnt mirror between the 2 disks. im using abit nf7-s2 and two 80GB sata disks. anyone can help?
[12:03] <ehird> eXistenZ: that's an RC
[12:03] <rob> Congrats guys!
[12:03] <mnepton> i'll have fast torrent seeds up in ~2 minutes.
[12:03] <eXistenZ> oh yes
[12:03] <xzk> RC 3 will be the exact same as the final release
[12:03] <MasseR> ehird: No it isn't
[12:03] <AlexC_> Where are the torrents?!
[12:03] <Alzi2_> Hey all... When is Edgy going to be released?
[12:03] <ehird> masser: yes it is
[12:03] <elliot> Now
[12:03] <MasseR> ehird: No it isn't. Anymore
[12:04] <Alzi2_> is it released?!
[12:04] <justthisguy> Alzi2_: you just missed it :)
[12:04] <ehird> Last time I heard the latest RC was different to Final
[12:04] <MasseR> 13:02:44 < lotusleaf> <tonyyarusso> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/  has non-RC ISOs!  Still waiting for announcement e-mail though.
[12:04] <rob> see /topic
[12:04] <osama> Alzi2_: Sometime in the near future
[12:04] <ehird> there we are
[12:04] <Habbie> why does the topic say edgy is released?
[12:04] <assasukasse> elliot says subkeys.pgp.net host not found
[12:04] <ehird> download started :D
[12:04] <Alzi2_> I think those are still RCs
[12:04] <ehird> alxi2_: not http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:04] <Alzi2_> are those RCs?
[12:04] <elliot> Can someone help assasukasse update his PGP keys for the ubuntu repositories
[12:04] <guyo> monad:
[12:05] <elliot> for edgy
[12:05] <ehird> not http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:05] <Alzi2_> ok
[12:05] <MasseR> 13:01:30 < bianconeri> are we where?
[12:05] <MasseR> 13:01:58 < tfheen> I just pushed the button, so yes.
[12:05] <MasseR> So apparently edgy is out
[12:05] <Artemis3> ok the floodgates are open
[12:05] <osama> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[12:05] <Habbie> who is tfheen? :)
[12:05] <MasseR> At least I interpreted it that way
[12:05] <osama> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[12:05] <Artemis3> torrent time
[12:05] <upt1me> where is the torrent?
[12:05] <kihai> Where is the Edubuntu Download? Still not updated on edubuntu.org...
[12:05] <Artemis3> torrent everyone :)
[12:05] <ajmitch> Habbie: release master for edgy
[12:05] <eXistenZ> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso != RC ?
[12:06] <Artemis3> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[12:06] <assasukasse> elliot it worked now..
[12:06] <elmargol> jigdo :D
[12:06] <xzk> lets all paste the same exact link at the same exact time: READY GO!
[12:06] <ehird> why are you doing the -alternates?
[12:06] <ehird> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso :p
[12:06] <elliot> assasukasse: OK GREAT :) happy edgy day and if you have more questions feel free to ask
[12:06] <exhale-away> ehird: because desktop sucks
[12:06] <Alzi2_> Are you sure those are the real released things and NOT rc's?
[12:06] <ehird> exhale-away: :p
[12:06] <neuro_> ehird: because -alternate ISOs are useful for doing net installs
[12:06] <neuro_> Alzi2_: yes, they're real
[12:06] <osama> 0 seeds
[12:06] <ehird> alzi2_: neither the page nor the filenames or descriptions says RC
[12:07] <ehird> they did before. therefore.
[12:07] <exhale-away> how do we know it isnt the RC?
[12:07] <xzk> which RC is it?
[12:07] <ehird> nice repeat question
[12:07] <ehird> xzk: no RC
[12:07] <xzk> RC3?
[12:07] <crimsun> exhale-away: because the release manager just released Edgy.
[12:07] <ehird> IT IS FINAL!
[12:07] <ivoks> exhale-away: by date
[12:07] <guyo> monad: the line you are interested in is the following "(EE) fglrx(0): Hardware already been locked."
[12:07] <kofwang> what's the difference between alternate and desktop?
[12:07] <osama> 0 seeds on the torrents
[12:07] <ehird> alternate is non-graphical install
[12:07] <Alzi2_> Well, if those are the finals.. why hasn't it been released yet?
[12:07] <exhale-away> kofwang: alternate is real text install
[12:07] <eXistenZ> I like alternate
[12:07] <crimsun> Alzi2_: it has. See the topic.
[12:07] <guyo> monad: i'm googling for it, i suggest you do the same
[12:07] <kofwang> thanxk
[12:07] <Alzi2_> WHA?!
[12:07] <mnepton> OK, fast torrent seeds are up.
[12:07] <MasseR> Alzi2_: Yes it is
[12:07] <GazzaK> kofwang~ desktop is the live cd, alt is the text mode installer type one
[12:07] <crimsun> thanks, mnepton :)
[12:07] <ehird> i prefer desktop as alternate installs have never worked before for me
[12:08] <mnepton> BT users should have fast access to Edgy
[12:08] <Alzi2_> but on the download page it says 6.06
[12:08] <ehird> not because i'm a dumb luser :p
[12:08] <rob> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:08] <ehird> alzi2_: wait for it to update, or, http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[12:08] <AlexC_> Hold on, where are the links to the non RC ones?
[12:08] <ehird> alexc_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:08] <Alzi2_> elkbuntuYea i'm downloading it ^^
[12:08] <Alzi2_> ehird*
[12:08] <ehird> bneuro_: how? o_O
[12:08] <rwscold> is this official?
[12:08] <crimsun> rwscold: yes.
[12:08] <AlexC_> thanks
[12:08] <Nookie> what are the big differences between edgy and dapper?
[12:08] <gh0st>  @ANYONE with linux java 32bit installed:: can anyone send me "libjavaplugin_oji.so" (should be found trough search), or put it on rapidshare.de for ex.? please. (it's the java plugin for mozilla 32bit, i need the one for 32bit to wrap with nspluginwrapper). i just need this one very file for my amd64.
[12:08] <ehird> nookie: plenty
[12:08] <kofwang> how do i upgrade to 6.10 using ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ?
[12:09] <monad> guyo: on it, thanks
[12:09] <randomi> I'm getting rejected by the tracker.... any ideas?
[12:09] <Alzi2_> Nookie: Lots. Speed, new technologies, better multimedia support. Kick-ass-ness!
[12:09] <xzk> kofwang: burn to disk
[12:09] <|Bot|> mikl# http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4611/
[12:09] <Nookie> okej... then ill update =)
[12:09] <elkbuntu> ack
[12:10] <elkbuntu> sorry gyys
[12:10] <monad> guyo: maybe i should rmmod fglrx
[12:10] <neuro_> tee hee
[12:10] <Alzi2_> ....
[12:10] <Alzi2_> Nookie: Also, Edgy is booted in less than 7 seconds
[12:10] <rwscold> anyone know a mirror in the US??
[12:10] <LookTJ> yay!
[12:10] <elkbuntu> stupid stupid keyboard!
[12:10] <randomi> I'm getting rejected by the tracker.... any ideas?
[12:10] <ehird> exciting times
[12:10] <LookTJ> edgy out!!
[12:10] <windu> you don't need the xserver-xorg-driver-i810 driver now, but the xserver-xorg-video-i810
[12:10] <ehird> randomi: do an ftp/hyyp download
[12:10] <ehird> *http
[12:10] <Lard-O-Lad> im having tracker troubles too!
[12:10] <exhale-away> the server is going to get killed ;(
[12:10] <windu> I had this problem and X.org didn't found my screen ><
[12:10] <kliklik> gh0st: Check the private messages.
[12:11] <osama> exhale-away: that's why we want to use bittorrent
[12:11] <IndyBC> apokryphos: :)
[12:11] <zircx> hey guys, erm, interesting state of affairs here, apparently I've tried to install java 5.0 as instructed on the website but I keep getting a 'can't do reply' because of multiverse situation and it seems to fail on the repository with some of the files..
[12:11] <neuro_> hmm ... "Failure: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker"
[12:11] <tim--> oh.. it's out?  i missed that...   better jump on that torrent
[12:11] <gh0st> klikli: i did not receive anything, but thanks if you want to help me! finally
[12:11] <ehird> 199KB/sec here, stupid adsl
[12:11] <Alzi2_> Guys, are the docs updated, too?
[12:11] <gh0st> kliklik: i did not receive anything, but thanks if you want to help me! finally
[12:11] <ehird> err
[12:11] <Alzi2_> I mean.. new guide and stuff?
[12:11] <kliklik> neuro_: the same problem here
[12:11] <ehird> 119KB/sec :p
[12:11] <C-O-L-T> I can not see any change on the main page http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <mikl> where is edgy at...
[12:11] <dholmes> Is the torrent working for anybody?
[12:11] <bianconeri> Ok now its officially out...I run sudo apt-get upgrade it says its up to date...I have been running edgy since yesterday...so no changes since then??
[12:11] <xzk> paste the torrent
[12:11] <ehird> C-O-L-T: yes... it takes a while to update
[12:11] <neuro_> i'm getting some peers over DHT tho
[12:11] <rwscold> 308KB/sec
[12:11] <Nookie> is it safe to update from dapper to edgy now?
[12:11] <assasukasse> well, i wonder, if edgy is out, why my apt-get upgrade doesn't get anything?
[12:11] <neuro_> which means i'll be seeding over DHT
[12:11] <randomi> Seems as though a lot of people are getting problems with the tracker
[12:12] <osama> torrent is DHT, some peers, 0 seeds ....
[12:12] <osama> 0%
[12:12] <Lard-O-Lad> 315 KB/s
[12:12] <neuro_> assasukasse: did you update your repositories to use edgy instead of dapper?
[12:12] <dholmes> There we go!
[12:12] <C-O-L-T> ehird: can I upgrade then now from dapper?
[12:12] <Alzi2_> I'm downloading from the main site
[12:12] <ehird> C-O-L-T: probably?
[12:12] <IndyBC> So, now, if we upgrade to edgy, we will get the stable official release?
[12:12] <assasukasse> neuro_ i am already on edgy RC
[12:12] <Artemis3> yes, fellow azureus users, but we need a seed using azureus too :P
[12:12] <tim--> where is the torrent guys?
[12:12] <JoseStefan> IndyBC, yes, it's official now
[12:12] <elliot> if you download by HTTP your still getting 686kb/s for now
[12:12] <kdean06> I've a question for anyone intimiatly familiar with Debian packaging, anyone here fit that?
[12:12] <gh0st> kliklik: quickly join #private-temp ;-)
[12:12] <IndyBC> JoseStefan: ok, thanks. I 'm off for upgrade! :)
[12:12] <IndyBC> ;)
[12:13] <warpforge> To all curious parties: The official release is the 25th's daily snapshot
[12:13] <xzk> kdean06: intimately?
[12:13] <Mukunda> Is edgy actually out now?
[12:13] <Artemis3> ok the first who downloads it via http open the torrent in azureus to seed us
[12:13] <zircx> oh everyones upgrading to edgy already
[12:13] <neuro_> Artemis3: i'm already seeding over DHT
[12:13] <Artemis3> thanks
[12:13] <Shadowpillar_> 56k ftl
[12:13] <elliot> I will have a torrent up in about 5mins, won't be official
[12:13] <ehird> can we just change the topic to "YES, EDGY IS RELEASED: <links>"
[12:13] <neuro_> elliot: if you use a torrent client that supports DHT, the official torrent will be fine
[12:13] <Artemis3> seems the tracker got hammered eh?
[12:13] <speedy> whats ubunutu-6.10-alternate?
[12:13] <neuro_> tracker prolly hasn't been updated yet
[12:13] <elliot> neuro_: name one
[12:14] <xzk> are you guys addicted to new version and updates/upgrades as much as me?
[12:14] <dirmass> RELEASED!!!
[12:14] <neuro_> elliot: azureus, uTorrent
[12:14] <exhale-away> alternate=text cd install, more options. doesnt have livecd
[12:14] <Shadowpillar_> speedy: IIRC, it doesn't load a livecd
[12:14] <dirmass> WOOOP
[12:14] <zircx> erm okay so dist-upgrade is the way to go?
[12:14] <oyvinhoi> Is there any program to create a floppy image of a folder on a harddrive?
[12:14] <rwscold> i am trying with azurues with no luck
[12:14] <Alzi2_> xzk: YAYAYAAYAYAYA!!!!
[12:14] <dholmes> I using the latest uTorrent and it's not really working for me
[12:14] <osama> i'll try to download http and then seed ?
[12:14] <Shadowpillar_> exhale-away: does it provide packages?
[12:14] <upt1me> 400KB/s
[12:14] <JoseStefan> for upgrade instructions /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:14] <C-O-L-T> how to upgrade to edgy
[12:14] <rwscold> there are no seeders!
[12:14] <dholmes> Well, it's started working (very slowly) but I still have an error from the tracker
[12:14] <Artemis3> Alzi2_, Xena?
[12:14] <exhale-away> Shadowpillar_: not shure what you mean here
[12:14] <elliot> Will be soon as possible
[12:14] <MasseR> So no go to tracker with rtorrent? -.-
[12:14] <agutierr> someone has the direct link to 6.10 release ?
[12:14] <mnepton> BITTORRENT USERS: it takes a little time for the tracker to sync. be patient.
[12:14] <zircx> JoseStefan: thanks man
[12:14] <kdean06> xzk, When editing a control file (dh_make) I'm aware you can use pipes to specify multiple packages ot meet the dependancy, but is it pissible to specify both an & as well as a | in a single entry? I'm packaging something that requires a working php install on Apache, but php4 or 5 work, AND apache and apache2
[12:14] <Shadowpillar_> exhale-away: aka, you download it, burn it, and can upgrade all major packages from it
[12:14] <xzk> where are you guys download it from
[12:14] <osama> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[12:14] <upt1me> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:15] <LookTJ> thanks
[12:15] <neuro_> dholmes: i'm seeding at 50KB/s quite happily atm
[12:15] <eXistenZ> Does shipit offer edgy cds yet?
[12:15] <dholmes> Yeah, it's starting to pick up now
[12:15] <ehird> http://directrix.org/screens/1.png sneaky ubuntu insult detected :O
[12:15] <mnepton> eXistenZ: never will
[12:15] <GazzaK> eXistenZ~ no, and they will not
[12:15] <MasseR> ehird: Afaik it wont even support
[12:15] <dholmes> Up to 20
[12:15] <visik7> are there mirrors ?
[12:15] <Shadowpillar_> exhale-away: instead of from repositories like the livecd version, or have to wipe your system
[12:15] <MasseR> eXistenZ: that is
[12:15] <eXistenZ> mnepton, never?
[12:15] <guyo> monad: follow method 2 of the following guide: worked flawlessly for me and other people reports success in fixing your same error message: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[12:15] <visik7> !mirror
[12:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:15] <visik7> !mirrors
[12:15] <mnepton> eXistenZ: correct
[12:15] <neuro_> dholmes: in fact you're leeching from me :>
[12:15] <eXistenZ> mnepton, No more shipit? :(
[12:15] <JoseStefan> i'm getting 10kb/s out of 80kb cap
[12:15] <C-O-L-T> !upgrade
[12:15] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:16] <dholmes> neuro_, ;)  I'll be seeding later (with my meager bandwidth)
[12:16] <elliot> Can someone tell me how to join the torrent to seed after I have my HTTP downloaded?
[12:16] <monad> guyo: thanks, will try
[12:16] <oyvinhoi> Is there any program to create a floppy image of a folder on a harddrive?
[12:16] <Lard-O-Lad> g'nite guys, its been fun! (i'll be sure to seed, once the tracker comes up)
[12:16] <dirmass> who keeps changing the main page, the new release photo keeps dissapearing
[12:16] <guyo> monad: good lucl
[12:16] <guyo> monad: good luck
[12:16] <kanpachi> is this the final ver of edgy? it dates back to yesterday
[12:16] <elliot> yeah
[12:17] <C-O-L-T> how to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[12:17] <LookTJ> 698 MB is big
[12:17] <kanpachi> so why is the date 25-10-06?
[12:17] <apokryphos> C-O-L-T: /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:17] <osama> oyvinhoi: you still use floppies?   cp to copy files
[12:17] <MasseR> C-O-L-T: Change all the dapper texts from sources.list to edgy
[12:17] <xipietotec> So is Feisty out yet? *hides from the ops*
[12:17] <terrablebyte> Sorry if this has already been answered, but will Edgy include all the drivers and features for the macbook?
[12:17] <harry> is it easy to install eclipse on ubuntu 6.06 than from 5.10 breezy
[12:17] <rob> xipietotec: yes
[12:17] <MasseR> Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:17] <rob> bah no!
[12:17] <visik7> terrablebyte: features ?
[12:17] <xipietotec> lol =)
[12:17] <rwscold> how are we sure this is the final??? i dont get it the main site doesnt even show it
[12:17] <guyo> harry: eclipse 3.1 is dead easy to install on dapper
[12:17] <andy> hi, how do i tell if an image is the final release of edgy or an older one?
[12:17] <Alzi2_> xipietotec: Huh? Out?
[12:17] <snowblink> rwscold, it was announced - see topic
[12:18] <MasseR> rwscold: Yes we are sure. It doesn't have "RC" in it does it?
[12:18] <Alzi2_> Time to ask Da Adminz!
[12:18] <rwscold> we have seen those on mirrors for hours without rc
[12:18] <zircx> well hump a humpback whale i've got to wait for these damn downloads to finish before i can upgrade
[12:18] <randomi> I'm still being rejected from the torrent. Anyone else still having this issue?
[12:18] <kanpachi> so edgy was released yesterday??
[12:18] <terrablebyte> e.g two finger scrolling, iSight drivers
[12:18] <Peter77> hi, when will the final release of edgy be available?
[12:18] <MasseR> kanpachi: Today
[12:18] <Peter77> not yet
[12:18] <elliot> now
[12:18] <Alzi2_> Peter77: It's out.
[12:18] <tim--> randomi, yes
[12:18] <neuro_> Peter77: it's out
[12:18] <Artemis3> in was released a couple of minutes ago
[12:18] <Alzi2_> Check da topic
[12:18] <Peter77> how come it's not on the site?
[12:18] <justthisguy> what size is the final release iso? 698.4 M?
[12:18] <CarinArr> going to be a fun day
[12:18] <woekele> http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/ubuntu/edgy/ just changed all the -rc builds to normal builds. So Im guessing its out :)
[12:19] <kanpachi> so how come when i try to d/l it, it says 25-10-06?
[12:19] <harry> guyo: so that means i dont need to the stuffs that this link tells me https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[12:19] <Alzi2_> Peter77: Still not updated.
[12:19] <Peter77> oh
[12:19] <LookTJ> peter77: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[12:19] <Peter77> so if I upgrade my edgy beta now it will upgrade to final release?
[12:19] <randomi> kanpachi, it depends on server time when those files were uploaded
[12:19] <neuro_> kanpachi: because it's released slightly early to mirrors
[12:19] <kanpachi> oh
[12:19] <kanpachi> kewl!
[12:19] <thoreauputic> kanpachi: possibly the CD was built yesterday
[12:19] <kanpachi> thanx
[12:19] <osama> http speed going dooooooown.
[12:19] <marx71> I am still seeing RC!! When would the final version be released? What time?
[12:19] <kyja> woohoo front page wants me to dl 6.10
[12:19] <neuro_> kanpachi: then when the release happens, the files are switched over so there's no missing files on mirrors
[12:19] <rackerz> marx71 do you use IE?
[12:19] <elliot> osama: mines still at 700kbs
[12:19] <ivoks> marx71: http://www.ubuntu-hr.org/ubuntu-releases/6.10/
[12:20] <C-O-L-T> I am upgrading to Edgy Eft cooooooollllllll
[12:20] <Drac|Radio> What are some good music apps like Amarok that are very user-friendly? I'm building a radio computer to sell on eBay and I want it to be easy to use.
[12:20] <guyo> harry: simply use universe and multiverse repositories and do a : apt-get install sun-java2-sdk eclipse
[12:20] <stromp> how do i upgrade?
[12:20] <apokryphos> stromp: /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:20] <tim--> anyone got a working torrent yet?
[12:20] <kdean06> Drac|Radio, I'm a fan of Banshee. It fits well with gnome
[12:20] <C-O-L-T> stromp: run the update manager
[12:20] <Alzi2_> Drac|Radio: Rhytmbox, Muine, Banshee.
[12:20] <ehird> why isn't http://www.ubuntu.com/include/circle610.jpg a png? ;)
[12:20] <osama> 238k > ~120k > 42k > 38.6k
[12:20] <marx71> you still need to run update-manager with -c -d?
[12:20] <zircx> I wonder if they'll have the firefox plugins installed into the latest firefox release
[12:20] <elliot> Yeah, mines begining to drop, still riding high though
[12:21] <rob> anyone getting rejected by the torrent tracker?
[12:21] <LookTJ> someone put http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ in topic please?
[12:21] <neuro_> rob: yes, everyone
[12:21] <rob> oh dam
[12:21] <ThePizzaKing> marx71: Only with -c
[12:21] <guyo> harry: my advice, edit /etc/eclipse/java_home to use SUN's JVM and lastly use update-alternatives to use SUN's VM and compiler
[12:21] <apokryphos> LookTJ: why? Upgrade info is more useful
[12:21] <ehird> i still say the whole topic should just be "YES, EDGY IS RELEASED, STOP ASKING! LINKS: <links go here>"
[12:21] <neuro_> rob: if you can use DHT with your client, you'll pick up some seeds, including myself
[12:22] <Mukunda> ehird: I can't see it anywhere.
[12:22] <rob> neuro_: cheers!
[12:22] <dholbach> ehird: I doubt everybody reads the topic ;)
[12:22] <ehird> mukunda: thus why we need the topic replaced with screaming caps
[12:22] <Mukunda> ehird: sorry, see it now.
[12:22] <Shadowpillar_> Hey, is edgy released yet? *bricked* :P
[12:22] <xipietotec> ehird: I got rob a few minutes ago =)
[12:22] <neuro_> although i have a horrible feeling i'm the only seed right now :>
[12:22] <Peter77> I'll upgrade ubuntu edgy rc and see if it upgrades to the final release
[12:22] <elliot> neuro_:I am working on it!
[12:22] <apokryphos> Peter77: with update manager or dist-upgrade? Either of those methods should get you final
[12:22] <Yancho|BNC> Hi, I was just offered a sponsor of a server having AMD 3200 64bit / 1GB ram .. I would like to run some game servers. What version of Ubuntu do you suggest please? It will be used remotely.
[12:22] <cge> neuro_: I might download it from a mirror and then seed it.
[12:22] <monad> guyo: it's really weird.
[12:22] <neuro_> cge: good call
[12:22] <guyo> monad: what
[12:23] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: Edgy server.
[12:23] <tim--> i'm still getting 'rejected y tracker' 'not authorised' etc
[12:23] <Peter77> yeah, i'm just going to use synaptic and select "mark all upgrades"
[12:23] <mnepton> neuro_: you are not the only seed. guaranteed.
[12:23] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ lemme search what is edgy
[12:23] <monad> guyo: logging in as user, starting X gets loads of API error messages from fglrxinfo, logging in as root still has mesa
[12:23] <neuro_> mnepton: well no seeds are showing up here
[12:23] <newbie> Hi guys!
[12:23] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: The new ubuntu release. It has just been released.
[12:23] <monad> guyo: and i have to add that the guy working on this machine always logs in as root
[12:24] <monad> i know that's f**** up
[12:24] <ehird> it was just released... 10 minutes ago :p
[12:24] <rackerz> monad, fglrx drivers aren't working correctly in edgy
[12:24] <kal> how can i update drapper to edgy without formatting ?
[12:24] <rackerz> last time i checked
[12:24] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ a ok its just a new name of ubuntu right ?
[12:24] <Peter77> oh crap ubuntu has crashed
[12:24] <monad> not using edgy
[12:24] <kal> where can i find a sources.list updated ?
[12:24] <guyo> monad: start from scratch building the kernel module and follow the guide, i had zero problems with that
[12:24] <Peter77> well it won't let me click on anything
[12:24] <mvo> Peter77: you may want to use the update-manager for this, run gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:24] <apokryphos> monad: language please :)
[12:24] <mdz> kal: follow the uprgade instructions
[12:24] <monad> guyo: that
[12:24] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: No, a new version.
[12:24] <apokryphos> kal: check the /topic for instructions
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> Don't forget to digg the release so everyone hears about it - http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_6_10_Actually_Released
[12:24] <guyo> monad: took me less than 10 minuts
[12:24] <monad> guyo: that's exactly what i did
[12:24] <guyo> who...
[12:24] <Yancho|BNC> oki Alzi2_ :) and what does it have with it ?
[12:24] <monad> guyo: right now, i just rebooted
[12:24] <guyo> monad: u're fast :-)
[12:24] <Peter77> mvo: I would but after ubuntu booted it won't let me click anything
[12:24] <justthisguy> kal: just change all the dapper s to edgy , then run sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:24] <kal> haha indeed, didn't saw the link ;p
[12:24] <monad> guyo: o' course.... ;-)
[12:24] <lypsis> hate it - still waiting for xubuntu ;)
[12:25] <kanpachi> don't mean to be too rude, but how can you REALLY sure it's final?
[12:25] <ehird> lypsis: you could install xfce and uninstall gnome after installing ubuntu
[12:25] <Shadowpillar_> so if it's busted, or something doesn't work, I can sit back comfortably with my still-working system
[12:25] <newbie> I found out that synaptic ain't in Breezy; how can I install it?
[12:25] <monad> guyo: as i told you, it's not the first time i'm configuring direct rendering and i've had worse than radeon
[12:25] <mikl> Shadowpillar_: I've been tryin' it fir months
[12:25] <apokryphos> kanpachi: sorry?
[12:25] <ehird> kanpachi: official statements and the lack of any "RC" indicators everywhere?
[12:25] <kanpachi> !topic
[12:25] <ehird> and the official page updating to show it official?
[12:25] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[12:25] <elliot> newbie: it is
[12:25] <monad> guyo: that's why i'm so puzzled
[12:25] <Peter77> oh crap I ust had t force a shutdown
[12:25] <kanpachi> well
[12:25] <guyo> monad: i see ... ...
[12:25] <lypsis> ehird: yeah i know, but i prefer the "official" integrated version you know :)
[12:25] <kanpachi> what official statements ? and daily builds never have rc
[12:25] <guyo> monad: upgraded xorg and the like to latest versions ?
[12:26] <godmachine81> mmk
[12:26] <kanpachi> even the daily one after the rc didn't have Rc
[12:26] <ehird> lypsis: well i'm gonna trash kubuntu for this
[12:26] <ehird> especially because of the lack of build-essential
[12:26] <monad> guyo: just upgraded to dapper three days ago, everything should eb up to date
[12:26] <apokryphos> kanpachi: official statements in here.  I have done worse
[12:27] <apokryphos> Peter77: language, please :)
[12:27] <monad> guyo: so as root, kde looks pretty, whereas as a user, kde looks strange
[12:27] <AlexC_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ is 100% Edgy Final?
[12:27] <guyo> monad: use a plain user and make sure he is in the "video" group
[12:28] <newbie> :-)
[12:28] <apokryphos> monad: could you expand for us in #kubuntu ?
[12:28] <rob> nice, over 1000 users in here!
[12:28] <godmachine81> speedy:: a bunch of us have edgy
[12:28] <monad> apokryphos: that apocryphous... whaddaya mean?
[12:28] <Daviey> is there any difference between kubuntu and (ubuntu + kde)
[12:28] <godmachine81> jeez
[12:28] <mikl> Edgy is teh nice
[12:28] <randomi> rackers, that's when they were uploaded to the servers but not when they were released
[12:28] <godmachine81> there is a lot of users in here
[12:28] <Peter77> is there a shortcut to log out
[12:28] <elkbuntu> rob, jumped 50 in the past hour
[12:28] <Sp4rKy> please, i want know where gdm looks for the window manager lists
[12:28] <apokryphos> monad: it's a KDE problem, so let us know about it in #kubuntu
[12:28] <rob> elkbuntu: nice
[12:28] <hmu> folks, I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop, but now apt-get doesn't want to re-install it anymore. what's the catch?
[12:29] <monad> apo: oh, sure... but i guess it's got nothing to do with kde directly
[12:29] <mikl> hmu: give us error messages or give us death ;)
[12:29] <apokryphos> hmu: doesn't want to install it? What's the error?
[12:29] <speedy> i ran update-manager and the speed isnt stable going up and down
[12:29] <speedy> to upgrade to edgy
[12:29] <osama> aptitude is upgrading ....
[12:29] <hmu>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[12:29] <apokryphos> monad: sounds like it does