[08:45] <vytenis> Hi all, i just installed ubuntu gnome 16.04 on lenovo t450 with intel 5500 graphics and i have experience alot of screen tearing especially when scrolling on website, watching youtube videos. I look around for fix but all solutions i saw were for inter graphics and older distributions. Maybe some of you have had this issue and know how to fix?
[08:48]  * mgedmin sighs
[08:49] <mgedmin> my approach is to wait for the glorious wayland future where tearing will be fixed once and for all and everyone will be happy and there will be shiny rainbows and unicorns everywhere
[08:49] <mgedmin> I think you can apt install gnome-wayland-session and try it out today
[08:50] <mgedmin> ah, it's only in the PPA
[08:50] <mgedmin> no, I just misremembered the package name
[08:50] <mgedmin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-session-wayland
[08:51] <mgedmin> last time I tried it I switched back to X because xchat-gnome would segfault on startup
[08:52] <mgedmin> and because vim couldn't access the middle-click clipboard with "*
[08:52] <mgedmin> curiously I almost don't see any tearing, except near the top edge of my external monitor
[09:20] <pchoo> I installed teh nvidia drivers with lightdm, and I have a wonderful triangle that tears regularly :D


[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> probably not gnomefreak. I assumed so but he told me to keep reminding him about it
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:47] <gnomefreak> i know he was heading out of town friday but not sure when he will be back on irc
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> kk
[04:23] <gnomefreak> !info ivman
[04:23] <ubotu> ivman: daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.12-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 272 kB
[04:23] <gnomefreak> joejaxx: ^^^
[04:24] <gnomefreak> joejaxx: your bot is ummm not looking hard enough :)
[04:24] <gnomefreak> ok bed!
[04:39] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: kde wallpaper stuff is for post-feisty :)
[04:39] <asac> there are more things we have to figure out ... like what else is needed for kde to make firefox as good as its now for gnome
[04:41] <asac> btw, what is on agenda for tuesday?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> asac: nothing last i looked
[05:10] <gnomefreak> asac: im thinking kde-intergration would be a good start if it hasnt been already started. but what that entails is still fuzzy
[05:19] <gnomefreak> if someone finds david please let him know i need to speak with him. or i might try to ping asac about it mondayish
[05:21] <asac> maybe send email to mozillateam list to reach davic
[05:21] <asac> david
[05:21] <asac> afaik, he hates irc :)
[05:27] <asac> ok gone to sun again
[05:27] <gnomefreak> ive noticed ;)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> that sucked


[05:52] <mup> Issue # closed: core18#56, core18#86, core18#89, core18#117, core18#129
[05:52] <mup> PR # closed: core18#43, core18#72, core18#90, core18#98, core18#126, core18#134
[05:53] <mup> Issue # opened: core18#56, core18#86, core18#89, core18#117, core18#129
[05:53] <mup> PR # opened: core18#43, core18#72, core18#90, core18#98, core18#126, core18#134
[09:15] <mup> PR snapd#7130 opened: overlord/devicestate: support seeding a classic system with the snapd snap and no core <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7130>
[09:17] <mup> PR snapd#7131 opened: overlord/devicestate: detect clashing concurrent (ongoing, just finished) remodels <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7131>
[09:22] <mup> PR snapd#7132 opened: ovelorrd,daemond,cmd/snapd:  move expensive startup to dedicated StartUp methods <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7132>
[09:26] <mup> PR snapd#7133 opened: overlord,daemon: adjust startup timeout via EXTEND_TIMEOUT_USEC using an estimate <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7133>
[13:34] <mup> PR snapd#7134 opened: image: clean up the validateSuite <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7134>
[15:25] <mup> PR snapd#7135 opened: image: support prepare-image --classic for snapd snap only images <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7135>


[00:44] <Bryan_Sierra> so I accidently removed a program in /usr/bin and now I can't remove it from apt-get because it's saying that the dependencies aren' tmet :o is there a way to just remove it manually? (Other than going directory by directory)
[00:45] <Bryan_Sierra> using apt-get*
[00:48] <Bryan_Sierra> Anyone know?
[00:58] <mdeslaur> Bryan_Sierra: try "apt-get --reinstall install PACKAGE"
[00:58] <kansan> how do i make this command happen if my ssh connection ever goes down?  ssh chef-client@chef-server
[01:02] <mdeslaur> kansan: you could use the "autossh" program
[01:02] <kansan> hwo do i set an enviormental variable
[01:08] <kansan> anyone familair with autossh program?  why doesnt it work when i do :  autossh -M 20000 ?
[01:34] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #323409 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "sasl2-bin broken, segfaulting during install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323409
[01:48] <kansan> how do i make:  autossh chef-client@chef-server ... run as a background process?  (i'm invoking it from /etc/rc.local)
[02:12] <andol> kansan: autossh -f will put it in the background
[02:13] <kansan> andol, whne i do that it eemse to 2009/01/31 02:10:06 autossh[2639]: ssh exited with status 0; autossh exiting
[02:13] <kansan> its like it doesnt create a persistent background ssh connection
[02:13] <kansan> like i asked it to
[02:13] <kansan> however when i do :  audossh -M 20000 foo@server
[02:13] <kansan> it works fine
[02:13] <kansan> but i dont want to actually go there
[02:14] <kansan> it doesnt work either when i do autossh -M 20000 foo@server &
[02:14] <andol> kansan: when you do it manually, do you do it as the root user?
[02:14] <kansan> yes
[02:14] <kansan> i'm root when i invoke autossh
[02:14] <andol> kansan: Well, then I don't know
[02:15] <andol> kansan: This is the solution I used when I had to run autossh at system startup: http://www.andreasolsson.se/2008/08/27/etcinitdautossh_tunnelfoo/
[02:15] <andol> (init-script)
[02:15] <andol> Hmm, must be second of third time I mention it in this channel :)
[02:16] <kansan> where do i put it
[02:16] <andol> /etc/init.d/autossh.nameyouchoose
[02:19] <kansan> and to invoke it?
[02:22] <andol> kansan: To invoke it manualy: /etc/init.d/autossh.thename start
[02:22] <kansan> why do you need autossh.thename
[02:22] <kansan> why not just /etc/init.d/autossh
[02:22] <andol> kansan: Because then you would only be able to have one autossh run from /etc/init.d
[02:23] <kansan> isnt that what i awnt?
[02:24] <andol> kansan: In your case /etc/init.d/autossh would probably do fine. I was thinking more on a general level.
[02:24] <kansan> does all stuff in /etc/init.d get auto booted at startup?
[02:25] <andol> kansan: No, you have active it first
[02:25] <kansan> andol, how do i do that
[02:26] <andol> kansan: An easy way to manage those scripts on a server is to install the package sysvconfig
[02:27] <kansan> this doesnt work
[02:27] <kansan> i cant enable/disable anything in this way :(
[02:27] <kansan> hitting ok doesnt do anything
[02:29] <andol> kansan: 1) start sysvconfig, 2) Move to Enable/Disable, presss enter, 3) Move to the services you want to change, toggle using <space>, 4) When you done, tab to <OK> and press enter, 5)Select Finnished <enter>, 6) Quit <enter>
[02:30] <kansan> yes space works
[02:30] <kansan> i thought i should hit ok
[02:30] <kansan> i'm getting sleepy
[02:30] <kansan> and making mistakes ;p
[02:33] <andol> kansan: Go to bed then :) Actually that's direction I'm head towards. Feel free to ask follow-up questins tomorrow.
[03:22] <arrrghhh> how can i ensure my ubuntu server isn't trying to steal my printer from my virtual machine?  suddenly the printer isn't available in the VM... i stopped the cupsd service but that didn't help.  should i stop samba too?
[03:25] <arrrghhh> i can't umount a printer...
[04:10] <kansan> when i try:   autossh -i /root/.ssh/chef_tunnel -p 24000 -nNT -R 6400:localhost:4000<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... then: telnet localhost 6400; i get Connection Refused
[05:12] <cowmix> installing server off a USB key.. and its complaining about CDROM drivers after the keyboard setup.. is there a way around this?
[06:54] <rdw200169> cowmix, you can try setting the debconf level higher and skipping the detect cd rom step
[09:23] <guybrush> Greetings! I've compiled a custom kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>) on U8.10, applied the apparmor patches in order, but Apparmor is not loading. Can anybody give me some advice?
[10:27] <orogor> hi , i did just enabled ipv6, but it seems that any site which allow to test if i am in ipv6 dont reconise me as connected via ipv6, could this be dues to the fact that ia m running iptables?
[10:29] <Nafallo> orogor: no. ipv6 uses ip6tables
[10:30] <orogor> Nafallo, i can t fiond such package
[10:31] <Nafallo> orogor: it's not a package. it's a binary.
[10:31] <orogor> huh ?
[10:31] <Nafallo> which ip6tables
[10:31] <orogor> returns nothing
[10:31] <Nafallo> not all binaries have their own packages.
[10:32] <Nafallo> have you got the package iptables installed?
[10:32] <orogor> yes
[10:33] <Nafallo> then you should have /sbin/ip6tables
[10:34] <orogor> haa, sorry
[10:34] <orogor> i typed which ip6table
[10:34] <orogor> forgot thes
[10:34] <orogor> forgot the s
[10:35] <orogor> inet6 addr: fe80::20c:76ff:fe4f:13e6/64
[10:36] <orogor> got an ipv6 adress with an fai with ipv6 support and no test site see me as a v6 host
[10:37] <orogor> hoo, the ruleset for ip6table is different than iptables
[11:02] <Tumie> Hi guys, i've got an problemm with my SSH connection with my server, i connect with the command "ssh <ip>" is this right ?
[11:09] <andol> Tumie: That sounds about right. You might also have to specify username if that differs from the host your connection from.
[11:18] <Tumie> andol: it is the same
[11:18] <Tumie> i'm not logged in on the server, is that a problem maybe ?
[11:24] <andol> Tumie: What is happening, and what do you expect to happen?
[11:25] <Tumie> I want to connect with my Server (that has Ubuntu Server 8.10 on  it),, from my desktop (Ubuntu Desktop 8.10) in the terminal..
[11:25] <Tumie> i only started the server up,, so i'm not logged in at the server itself..
[11:27] <andol> Yes, but what is the respons you get when you run the command: "ssh ip-number" from your desktop computer?
[11:30] <Tumie> WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
[11:30] <Tumie> and some other text
[11:30] <Tumie> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
[11:32] <andol> Tumie: Reinstalled it rescently? Have you using ssh to connect to it before the reinstall?
[11:33] <Tumie> I reinstalled the whole server yesterday
[11:33] <andol> Tumie: That explains it :)
[11:33] <Tumie> what to do about it ? (and reinstalling doesn't get rid of all the old files :O )
[11:34] <andol> Tumie: When the server got reinstalled it also got new sshd-crypto-keys. That is why your desktop computer warns you, since it's a "new" computer on the old ip adress.
[11:34] <andol> Tumie: It should be ok to remove the offending line from your ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[11:35] <Tumie> their are 3 lines at that file..
[11:35] <Tumie> all highly coded
[11:36] <Tumie> i deleted all lines
[11:36] <Tumie> it is working now :D
[11:36] <Tumie> thanks :D
[11:37] <andol> you'r welcome
[11:37] <Tumie> hmmm.. webmin doesn't work,, yesterday it worked..
[11:37] <hads> !webmin
[11:38] <m4dm4n> !ebox
[11:38] <Tumie> so, how do i delete webmin ?
[11:39] <Tumie> BRB
[12:32] <Tumie> How do i Fully delete Webmin ?
[12:32] <Nafallo> Tumie: by not installing it in the first place.
[12:32] <Tumie> I already installed it.... :|
[12:32] <Nafallo> sorry if that's a bit unhelpful, but that's probably the best way of doing it...
[12:33] <Tumie> and it is very annoying
[12:34] <Nafallo> yes. webmin have a tendancy to be just that...
[12:36] <Tumie> you are annoying..
[12:42] <jpds> !webmin | Tumie
[12:42] <Tumie> jpds, i already know, that is the reason i want to delete it :)
[12:44] <Nafallo> ehrm. I'm annoying cause I'm saying that I'm not aware of a way to completely revert what failmin have done... oh well. sometimes the truth can be annoying, that shouldn't kill the messenger.
[12:49] <m4dm4n> Nafallo, your answer was anything but helpful.
[12:50] <m4dm4n> if we go back in time, it would've been a great suggestion, but unfortunately.. we can't
[12:51] <Nafallo> oh well. I'm stepping down from this discussion. I've already made my opinion clear, and that is that you can't revert webmin in any sane way.
[12:52] <Nafallo> sorry if that isn't considered helpful enough.
[12:53] <m4dm4n> "by not installing it in the first place" is what i can see... nothing about simply saying it cannot be done in a sane way.
[12:53] <m4dm4n> but.. your welcome.
[12:53] <Nafallo> logically that relates to the point I was trying to make :-)
[12:54] <m4dm4n> yes, in a sarcastic way.. it wasn't really needed.
[12:55] <Nafallo> wasn't mean in such a way, but text on IRC gets easily missinterpreted.
[12:55] <m4dm4n> nevermind now though.
[12:55] <Nafallo> agreed :-)
[12:57] <mc68040> hi all, i need to setup a 8.04 lts server. how can i ensure to install/use only packages with support until 2013?
[12:57] <ivoks> use only main repository
[12:58] <mc68040> ivoks: i think in main are the desktop packages too. they are only supported until 2011
[12:58] <ivoks> mc68040: don't use X librariers and you are fine
[12:59] <ivoks> mc68040: basicaly, packages in main which don't require desktop, are supported for 5 years
[13:00] <ivoks> does anyone know is it possible to mirror ports.ubuntu.com over rsync?
[13:01] <mc68040> ivoks: ok, i assume thats true for hardy-security and hardy-updates too?
[13:02] <ivoks> mc68040: well, only hardy-security and hardy-updates get changes
[13:02] <ivoks> mc68040: no new packages are released in 'default' repository
[13:03] <mc68040> ivoks: ups, you are right, i should think a bit before
[13:06] <Nafallo> ivoks: tried rsync ports.ubuntu.com:: ?
[13:06] <ivoks> Nafallo: i figured it out :)
[13:06] <ivoks> 14:04 < ivoks> bah, just ignore me :)
[13:06] <Nafallo> :-)
[13:06] <ivoks> on #ubuntu-mirrors
[13:06] <Nafallo> oh.
[13:06] <Nafallo> damn cross-talker :-P
[13:06] <ivoks> :)
[13:09] <mc68040> ivoks: i would prefer a better way to ensure to use only packages with support until 2013, but thx for your help
[13:09] <ivoks> mc68040: afaik, there's no better way
[13:09] <ivoks> i guess adding aditional filed to debian/control could help
[13:10] <mc68040> lol, had just the same idea :-)
[13:11] <mc68040> or to split hardy into hardy-server and hardy-desktop...
[13:11] <ivoks> and where would you put bash?
[13:11] <ivoks> or udev, upstart, or... :)
[13:12] <mc68040> in both of course
[13:13] <ivoks> so, bash, supported for 5 years would be in hardy-desktop
[13:13] <ivoks> but hardy-desktop is supported for 3 years
[13:13] <ivoks> er...? :)
[13:14] <mc68040> why not, nobody says that support on desktop must end 2011
[13:14] <ivoks> well, it won't be that bad..
[13:14] <ivoks> it ends in 2011
[13:14] <ivoks> but in 2011 hardy-desktop could be removed
[13:14] <ivoks> and that's it
[13:15] <ivoks> but hardy-desktop-updates doesn't sound quite good
[13:16] <mc68040> hmmm, so dont split but setup an additional hardy-server, hardy-server-updates and hardy-server-security?
[13:18] <ivoks> that's not that easy as it sounds
[13:19] <orogor> Nafallo, got ipv6 fully working , only issue seems to be that ip6tables on ubuntu doesn t like ulog
[13:20] <mc68040> ivoks: why not? building Pacckage files from special package lists shouldnt be so difficult
[13:20] <ivoks> mc68040: you are talking with a wrong person
[13:21] <ivoks> mc68040: you should raise this quetions on ubuntu-server mailing list
[13:21] <ivoks> i don't decide how archives are going to be organized; i just mirror them :D
[13:21] <mc68040> i think ill do :-)
[13:21] <ivoks> mc68040: for political point of view
[13:22] <ivoks> canonical isn't the only company providing support for ubuntu
[13:22] <ivoks> so, enforcing one companys 'rules' on ubuntu's archives doesn't sound quite fair
[13:22] <ivoks> having additional filed in debian/control sounds much better
[13:23] <ivoks> X-Supported by: Canonical 5 years, XYZ 10 years
[13:23] <ivoks> or something like that
[13:23] <ivoks> not that i have something against canonical :D
[13:24] <Nafallo> orogor: kewl
[13:24] <mc68040> hmmm, i think we want the same - even other companys will have an advantage if they could distinct the packages
[13:25] <ivoks> for example, i watch over hylafax, since lots of my clients use it
[13:25] <ivoks> it isn't supported by canonical
[13:25] <ivoks> but my clients get regullar fixes, since that's software they really care about
[13:27] <mc68040> you are right, there will always be packages that wont be supported by canonical
[13:27] <ivoks> if we could achive that interested groups maintain package, a not core-dev and motus, then, i think, we could achive better quality of packages and even could set up 'supported' queues
[13:27] <ivoks> s/ a / and /
[13:28] <ivoks> whith core-dev having fully access to everything
[13:28] <mc68040> i just dont want to minimize work, why should i watch a package if its still supported by someone else?
[13:28] <ivoks> and motu to all stuf universe
[13:29] <mc68040> lol -"dont"
[13:29] <ivoks> you may have interest in pushing some changes
[13:30] <mc68040> yes, thats what i want
[13:30] <ivoks> common good is mixed of all individual interest
[13:30] <ivoks> if that's correct word in english :)
[13:30] <mc68040> but i need a solid, well supported base which i dont want to take care of
[13:31] <ivoks> mc68040: 14:28 < ivoks> whith core-dev having fully access to everything
[13:31] <ivoks> with
[13:31] <ivoks> launch time... take care
[13:31] <mc68040> ok, bye
[14:02] <nomingzi> i have install a software (.pl) from terminal, and this software has it own services running. I would like to know how to check if the services are running fine.
[14:19] <shally87> hi
[14:19] <shally87> I need help on how to make my LAMP server run a live website
[14:21] <shally87> I´m noob here.. I just installed LAMP server with Samba and webmin to run on my pc
[14:21] <Deeeps> !webmin | shally87
[14:21] <shally87> !ebox
[14:22] <shally87> then i have to uninstalled webmin right..
[14:22] <shally87> I look around for the ebox..
[14:22] <Deeeps> uh huh
[14:22] <shally87> thanks deeps
[14:22] <Deeeps> np
[14:23] <shally87> i met with this
[14:23] <shally87> WARNING: the eBox package released with Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is broken and cannot be installed. See bug #255368 for information and unsupported workarounds.
[14:23] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 255368 in ebox "ebox: Depends: libapache-authcookie-perl but it is not installable " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255368
[14:24] <shally87> so what am i going to do?
[14:24] <shally87> do i need to install the 8.04 hardy?
[14:24] <Deeeps> either use one of the unsupported workarounds as described in the bug report, or switch to hardy, or wait for jaunty, or use webmin
[14:24] <shally87> hmm..
[14:25] <shally87> i guess i use webmin for now..
[14:25] <shally87> any manual for webmin on how to get started?
[14:25] <Deeeps> no idea i'm afraid
[14:25] <Nafallo> shally87: webmin is not really supported in this channel no. rather strongly discouraged.
[14:26] <shally87> ok
[14:26] <shally87> like that, then I have to change to hardy
[14:27] <shally87> thanks for the help deeeps, nafallo
[15:09] <barisha> i need help with exim4!
[15:13] <dayo__> barisha: if they can't help u here, also check #exim
[15:13] <dayo__> oops
[15:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #323601 in likewise-open (main) "Upgrade to likewise-open 5 for Jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323601
[15:39] <axisys> anyone here installed ubuntu on niagra chip ?
[15:40] <axisys> for me it bombs out during disk detect phase http://pastebin.com/d2f76a5fd
[16:05] <orudie> hi! how can install this ? lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[16:29] <orudie> hi, really need help on this, I need to make sure that i have lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[16:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #323627 in apache2 (main) "apache2 has ugly icons" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323627
[16:31] <orudie> anyone ?
[16:51] <orudie> please....
[16:51] <orudie> hi, really need help on this, I need to make sure that i have lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[17:49] <orudie> hi, really need help on this, I need to make sure that i have lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[17:49] <syncrondi> sry, I'm not sure how
[18:01] <ScottK> orudie: If you want the lenny version of libc6, you pretty well need to run lenny.
[18:01] <ScottK> Swapping arbitrary versions of libc6 out from under the rest of the system is not a recipe for happiness.
[19:26] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #323681 in openldap (main) "package libldap-2.4-2 2.4.11-0ubuntu6.1 failed to install/upgrade: package libldap-2.4-2 is already installed and configured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323681
[21:14] <shadowhywind> hay all I am running an ubuntu server, and trying to connect a 1.3TB ext3 partition (USB) everytime i try to mount, It freezes the console. is there any issues with the size of the partition?
[22:44] <oomkiller> anyone familiar with the ufw syntax in before.rules to tell me how to forward a port?
[22:44] <oomkiller> i have masquerading setup, but i can't figure out how to forward a port
[22:48] <rdw200169> oomkiller, using ufw, right?
[22:49] <oomkiller> yes
[22:49] <rdw200169> hmm... i know how to do it with iptables
[22:49] <oomkiller> well its essentially the same thing
[22:49] <rdw200169> ufw is an abstraction layer on top of iptables
[22:49] <rdw200169> ah, so you know
[22:50] <oomkiller> yeah, i've read the wiki pages, just can't get a straightforward example for a port forward
[22:50] <oomkiller> basically i think i need to -A ufw-before-forward ...
[22:50] <oomkiller> but i don't know what goes after that
[22:50] <rdw200169> well, good luck; i'm not gonna learn ufw b/c i already know iptables ;)
[22:51] <oomkiller> rdw200169: can you tell me how to forward it in iptables?  i can translate it easily
[22:51] <oomkiller> the real difference is a terser syntax, 99% of the rules are the same
[22:52] <rdw200169> -A PREROUTING -i wlan0 -p udp -m udp --dport 20:21 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>:20-21
[22:52] <rdw200169> there's an example of how i forward udp ftp traffic through my desktop
[22:52] <oomkiller> hmm ok
[22:52] <oomkiller> what is -j DNAT?
[22:52] <oomkiller> or more exactly, what is DNAT
[22:53] <oomkiller> is that something built into netfilter/iptables, or is it something you have to write
[22:53] <rdw200169> it's a NAT related target
[22:53] <Deeeps> you'd also need to specify '-t nat' if operating from the command line, rather than in the :nat context already from the iptables-save output
[22:53] <rdw200169> ah yes, right Deeeps i just used the iptables-save output
[22:54] <Deeeps> DNAT - Destination NAT, port forwarding essentially
[22:54] <Deeeps> redirects packets that match the previously given rules to the new target
[22:54] <oomkiller> Deeeps: but thats not a another chain, its builtin, right?
[22:54] <Deeeps> yep
[22:54] <rdw200169> PREROUTING? yes
[22:54] <oomkiller> ok lets see
[22:54] <Deeeps> (DNAT too)
[22:55] <oomkiller> the wiki page says that i should add the rules for forwarding to ufw-before-forward
[22:55] <oomkiller> i guess thats it's version of PREROUTING
[22:55] <rdw200169> ah, you need an explaination of how this whole mess works
[22:55] <rdw200169> gimme a sec.
[22:56] <oomkiller> btw, anyone know how to scroll up with irssi, without a mouse?
[22:56] <Deeeps> page up key
[22:56] <oomkiller> thanks
[22:56] <Deeeps> alt+p and alt+n also if you haven't changed the default keybinds iirc
[22:57] <rdw200169> ftp://greamin.com/Documents/Linux%20Networking/Firewalling/ipTables%20and%20EbTables%20Packet%20Flow%20in%20Linux.png
[22:57] <oomkiller> Deeeps: do you know of a way to "check" the rules before loading them with ufw?
[22:58] <Deeeps> no idea i'm afraid
[22:58] <hads> Something like firehol's try would be cool though
[23:00] <oomkiller> well i'm about to try it
[23:00] <oomkiller> lets see if my rule works
[23:01] <oomkiller> hmm, says problem with init script, how descriptive
[23:02] <arooni-mobile> how do i make:  wget -r http://<IP_ADDRESS>/latest/user-data ..... safe to ./user-data instead of ./<IP_ADDRESS>/latest/user-data ?
[23:02] <hads> -O or something, check the man page.
[23:03] <arooni-mobile> -O is what i  used
[23:03] <arooni-mobile> it seems to just write the log
[23:04] <oomkiller> ahh, i think i see my error
[23:12] <dou213> hey guys, although k1 is on tv, i'm sitting in front of my ubuntu-box :( ... trying to configure lamp to work properly, installed php -> now when i http://localhost/info.php it says to download the file ... i googled it, common error: the php-module isn't corresponding with apache, did do: 'sudo a2enmod php5'
[23:12] <dou213> and nothing changed, still only option is to d/w the file
[23:13] <dou213> any suggestions?
[23:16] <hads> Restart apache
[23:18] <dou213> hads, still only dw
[23:29] <rdw200169> dou213, well, i have a LAMP server, but no info.php
[23:29] <rdw200169> dou213, and it works fine w/PHP
[23:29] <Deeeps> do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?
[23:29] <rdw200169> me?
[23:29] <Deeeps> whoever's having the problem
[23:29] <rdw200169> ah, that's dou213
[23:30] <rdw200169> dou213, did you use tasksel to install the lamp server?
[23:31] <dou213> rdw200169, y
[23:32] <dou213> rdw200169, initially, but because of problems i have encountered, i installed some additional packages on the way, couldn't say now which one
[23:32] <dou213> Deeeps, dunno, w8 i check pls
[23:33] <dou213> Deeeps, libapache2-mod-php5 already installed
[23:36] <rdw200169> i dunno then; for me it has always 'just worked'....
[23:36] <dou213> tryind to reinstall php, maybe prob will solve itself this way
[23:40] <P4C0> hello, when someone logs in via ssh where can I see the ip? I mean in which log file?
[23:41] <rdw200169> /var/log/auth.log
[23:42] <P4C0> thanks rdw200169
[23:43] <rdw200169> no prob
[23:48] <dou213> rdw200169, you can see the ip there? r u sure?
[23:48] <rdw200169> dou213, i can on my computer
[23:49] <rdw200169> dou213, to make it easier to read, do 'cat /var/log/auth.log | grep ssh'
[23:49] <dou213> rdw200169, yes you're right :)
[23:49] <dou213> cool, didn't know that
[23:49] <hads> grep ssh /var/log/auth.log
[23:50] <rdw200169> hads, yeah, that'll do it too... i'm used to the old reliable cat | grep combo ;)
[23:51] <hads> Yeah, when there's only one file involved cat isn't needed :)
[23:52] <rdw200169> i may have to break out of my stubborn ways and use that...


[00:50] <Ken> Gah but i'm in need of assistance if anyone has the time. I have a server that's worked well in the past. Tried to install the Zyental .iso but it failed to work properly, so went back to Ubuntu Server 10.10. On boot i'm constantly faced with "DISK BOOK FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER".  I've tried Ubuntu Server 10.04 and it's no different. I installed a copy of Windows XP and it installed and booted correct
[00:51] <Ken> The odd thing is it's worked fine before.
[00:51] <share> How can I restrict a user to his /home folder in openssh server?
[00:53] <Ken> Maybe remove read/write access from all but the users home directory.
[00:53] <Ken> For that user, that is.
[00:53] <share> Ken: yeah i know that way  :P
[00:54] <Ken> Share: Hmm. Try threatening them with a hammer?
[00:54] <share> lol
[00:54] <Ken> Share: I'm not sure. I'll do a bit of a search but I don't know any other way aside from that.
[00:54] <share> ChrootDirectory
[00:54] <Ken> The hammer thing I mean.
[00:55] <Ken> share: There seems to be some discussion on forcing the use to use sftp instead of SSH too.
[00:56] <Ken> And a little talk about lshell.
[00:56] <share> Write failed: Broken pipe
[00:57] <share> lolz
[00:57] <Ken> I'd love to have some Chroot issues right now. I can't even get booting.
[01:10] <pmatulis> Ken: wipe out the boot sector of your drives
[01:10] <Ken> I have the Ultimate Boot CD. I'm not sure how to do that, Pmatulis, but i'll look it up now and try. Thank you
[01:14] <Ken> Oh joy. The error has changed to "Error loading operating system." Pmatulis, I pledge you my first born!
[01:14] <Ken> I appreciate the help. Thank you very much.
[01:15] <Ken> Fix of Grub2 or a reinstall should have it all working again I suspect.
[01:16] <Ken> pmatulis: Thank you! It's working. I've been fighting with this for hours.
[01:25] <_Techie_> can anybody help me fix this , http://sprunge.us/RfdD
[01:41] <pmatulis> _Techie_: what type of machine is this from?
[01:42] <_Techie_> one built from old parts
[01:42] <_Techie_> its a ECS KN1 SLI lite motherboard with a AMD Athlon X2 4200
[01:45] <pmatulis> _Techie_: and you're using what release?
[01:45] <_Techie_> 10.04.1
[01:45] <_Techie_> 10.04.1
[01:46] <_Techie_> beware if you say upgrade to 10.10 i will kill you
[01:46] <_Techie_> =P
[01:47] <pmatulis> _Techie_: does it boot or what?
[01:47] <_Techie_> yes
[01:48] <_Techie_> it functions fine but this error makes the oot process take longer thani would like
[01:48] <_Techie_> boot*
[01:48] <pmatulis> _Techie_: perhaps study bug #443113
[01:49] <pmatulis> _Techie_: you don't have a netbook but there is a kernel boot option you may want to try
[01:49] <pmatulis> _Techie_: see comment #29
[01:51] <instabin> Hello I am having a problem with apache after doing the updates my php will work if I type www.mydomian.com but not if I use just mydomain.com
[01:51] <instabin> When using just mydomain.com it try to download a file instead of displaying the php page
[01:59] <_Techie_> pmatulis, will try that, gonna init 6
[02:05] <_Techie_> pmatulis, it worked, the dmesg shows a much friendlier message, however i still need to disable acpi
[02:34] <Sophia> Good day/night, I run Ubuntu 10.04 *32 on a VPS and suddently get segemtation fault when i run ap-get update or any other software
[02:35] <Sophia> sudo rm -vf /var/cache/apt/*.bin, apt-get clean
[02:35] <Sophia> did not help
[02:36] <Sophia> could someone be so kind an help me pls?
[02:38] <AkakuMatt> what are you trying to do?
[02:39] <Sophia> update the system
[02:39] <Sophia> and install php5
[02:41] <AkakuMatt> why are u using apt-get clean?
[02:42] <AkakuMatt> well reguardless sudo apt-get install php5
[02:42] <Sophia> because im loged in as root
[02:43] <AkakuMatt> lol
[02:43] <AkakuMatt> why would you login as root?
[02:43] <AkakuMatt> use a normal user and sudo
[02:43] <Sophia> http://www.apollon-domain.co.uk/?p=221
[02:43] <Sophia> followed this guid
[02:44] <AkakuMatt> Ok
[02:44] <AkakuMatt> Well that guide is not what you want to do
[02:44] <Sophia> fair enough
[02:44] <Sophia> but sudo doe snot change the problem
[02:44] <AkakuMatt> you can do anything as root without being logged in as root
[02:44] <Sophia> and it worke dfine for several week
[02:44] <AkakuMatt> thats because your root already
[02:44] <AkakuMatt> just use apt-get install php5 without sudo and clean
[02:45] <Sophia> that what I did
[02:45] <Sophia> I get segmentation faults
[02:45] <Sophia> for any apt command that is
[02:46] <AkakuMatt> use pastebin and show me what your talking about
[02:47] <AkakuMatt> And first of all backup and update your ripositories
[02:47] <AkakuMatt> apt-get update
[02:48] <Sophia> http://pastebin.com/Z1PS9LBY
[02:56] <AkakuMatt> ok
[02:56] <AkakuMatt> im going to tell you to read man apt-get and check out the distro-upgrade option tword the top
[02:57] <Sophia> u want me to upgrad to 10.10?
[02:57] <AkakuMatt> no
[02:57] <AkakuMatt> but it should update your 10.4
[02:58] <AkakuMatt> have you tried doing the install php5 since you updated
[02:58] <Sophia> yes
[02:58] <AkakuMatt> and?
[02:58] <Sophia> I get the same segmentation fault with apt-get upgrade
[02:58] <AkakuMatt> you do realise that says there is a 0% segfault
[02:58] <Sophia> as i said, any apt command
[02:59] <AkakuMatt> Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[02:59] <Sophia> well, its not installing anything
[03:00] <AkakuMatt> sorry i cant help
[03:00] <AkakuMatt> http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1972
[03:00] <AkakuMatt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454316
[03:00] <AkakuMatt> try there
[03:00] <Sophia> I was on taht page before I cam ehere
[03:00] <Sophia> i tried all these commands, mentione dit in my initial post
[03:01] <AkakuMatt> Keep reading
[03:01] <AkakuMatt> you obvisuly dont read more than the first post
[03:02] <AkakuMatt> And they both referance to a memory issue
[03:03] <AkakuMatt> use google
[03:06] <Sophia> how can the cache size be soddenly to small?
[03:06] <Sophia> *suddenly
[03:15] <Sophia> ok, I did nano /etc/apt/apt.conf  added>
[03:15] <Sophia> APT::Cache-Limit "20000000";  (file was empty) saved, retried apt-get update, same issue
[03:18] <AkakuMatt> did you check your memory? or not?
[03:18] <jetole> Hey guys. Does anyone know how the MAC times of files relates to when I'm looking at windows files via CIFS mounts?
[03:19] <Sophia> i restarted the server again...works now
[03:19] <Sophia> maybe the issue was caused by two winscp sessions running simultaniously
[03:20] <Sophia> anyway, thank you fo ryour help
[03:22] <clayd> i am working on a cloud server install of ubuntu 10.04 and tab completion is not working.  Any thoughts on how to turn it on?
[03:26] <clayd> never mind found it.  needed bash-completion installed
[08:19] <ScubaDogg> anyone still awake in here?
[08:21] <ScubaDogg> guys, I am getting attr errors, on a md ext3 /home partition & have read that I need extended attribs for samba4 on an ext3 partition. Should I adjust my fstab like  /dev/md6 /home ext3 user_xattr 1 1 or more like /dev/md6 /home ext3 rw,acl,user_xattr 0 2
[08:22] <ScubaDogg> srv is @ a colo s I don't want to break it.
[08:32] <Psi-Jack> I need someone here that's somewhat formidable with ocfs2. I have a 2-node ocfs2 cluster over an iSCSI link, running under kvm. When I unplugged the vnic from cweb1, leaving it on for cweb2, cweb1 became faulted with no quorum, obviously, as did cweb2. But what happened was, cweb2 went into a kernel panick loop that would not recover for anything. cweb1 never panicked, nor rebooted, cweb2 never
[08:32] <Psi-Jack> rebooted, but panicked continuously.
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> I plugged the vnic back into cweb1, all was good. It restored everything, ocfs2 was usable. cweb2 remained in panick until forcefully rebooted by alternative means. Now, I know ocfs2's kernel designed fault tolerance is setup to reboot when quorum is lost, but it did neither reboot, nor properly even fence itself at all.
[08:33] <ScubaDogg> does this look safe to put into my fstab?
[08:33] <ScubaDogg> /dev/md6 /home ext3 rw,acl,user_xattr 0 2
[08:41] <Psi-Jack> ScubaDogg: Do you know what all that does?
[12:20] <woutervddn> hey guys.. I've just installed ubuntu server to virtualbox I bridged my wlan0 installed sql, apache2,.. I've set up apache2 and I am connected to my router like it should.
[12:20] <woutervddn> But I can't access the standard index.html page from my host computer..
[12:21] <woutervddn> I'm guessing it's the portforwarding.. which ports are used by default?
[12:23] <woutervddn> got it.. apperantly I was using the wrong ip: <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS>..
[13:01] <woutervddn> hey guys I've got another question, I'm trying to connect true ftp and this is what I get:
[13:01] <woutervddn> Status:	Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>...
[13:01] <woutervddn> Response:	fzSftp started
[13:01] <woutervddn> Command:	open<EMAIL_ADDRESS>22
[13:01] <woutervddn> Error:	Could not connect to server
[13:16] <woutervddn> I just tried ftp localhost on the virtual server and that works.
[13:17] <woutervddn> but connect true filezilla won't work..
[13:17] <woutervddn> anyone has an idea?
[13:21] <WinstonSmith> woutervddn, "Command: open<EMAIL_ADDRESS>22" <== try port 21? 22 is ssh
[13:21] <woutervddn> I tried that but that gives me following
[13:22] <woutervddn> Status:	Waiting to retry...
[13:22] <woutervddn> Status:	Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:21...
[13:22] <woutervddn> Status:	Connection attempt failed with "EHOSTUNREACH - No route to host".
[13:22] <woutervddn> Error:	Could not connect to server
[13:23] <WinstonSmith> No route to host sounds like the ip is wrong. what is your host OS? what ftp server are you using?
[13:25] <woutervddn> ubuntu-studio 10.04 is my host system
[13:25] <woutervddn> ftp server is vsftpd
[13:26] <WinstonSmith> did you configure vsftpd to accept connections from all ips? e.g. not just from localhost?
[13:26] <WinstonSmith> sry cant help you much there never configured vsftp myself
[13:27] <woutervddn> yes.. i did.. but I'll look at vsftpd.conf again :)
[13:27] <woutervddn> thx anyway
[13:29] <WinstonSmith> yw
[13:44] <g0bl1n> hi, are there ubuntu server 1010 ami available in amazon aws ?
[13:44] <g0bl1n> official
[14:01] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com
[14:01] <SpamapS> I think
[14:01] <SpamapS> right
[14:02] <SpamapS> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/current/
[14:02] <g0bl1n> SpamapS, thank you, great
[15:46] <woutervddn> hey any of you know an alternative for cpanel to use on ubuntu-server?
[16:03] <pmatulis> woutervddn: some people use ebox but it's not officially supported by ubuntu
[16:51] <root_> admin
[16:51] <root_> ADMIN
[20:28] <woutervddn> is there something like a vhcs package for ubuntu?
[20:29] <woutervddn> (sudo apt-get...)
[20:30] <woutervddn> or does there exist another control panel with the same fnctionality?
[20:39] <SpamapS> woutervddn: ebox
[20:39] <SpamapS> !ebox
[20:39] <woutervddn> thx.. I'll look for it :)
[20:40] <woutervddn> it's installing ^^
[23:19] <wizardslovak> hello people
[23:20] <wizardslovak> i am building myself small home server , nothing fancy , media server little website with sql
[23:20] <wizardslovak> and i dunno which spu to decide
[23:20] <wizardslovak> amd or intel?
[23:21] <wizardslovak> i want to run 64 bit ubuntu server on it
[23:47] <SpamapS> wizardslovak: why do you want 64-bit?


[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pulseaudio (impish-proposed/main) [1:15.0+dfsg1-1ubuntu2 => 1:15.0+dfsg1-1ubuntu2.1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[10:14] <juliank> tests are running at full capacity again after a brief downtime due to juju restarting the services rather than reloading them
[11:05] <juliank> I have changed the autopkgtest grafana board at https://ubuntu-release.kpi.ubuntu.com/d/76Oe_0-Gz/autopkgtest to use a minimum interval of 5m for exited test row, such that trends are easier to detect than with per-minute reports
[11:06] <juliank> If someone knows influxdb and grafana; I'd really love to have a rate of errors report
[11:06] <juliank> that is, SELECT count("exited") FROM "autopkgtest_exit_event" WHERE ("exit_status" = '16' OR "exit_status" = '20' OR "exit_status" = '99') AND ("instance" =~ /^$instance$/) AND $timeFilter GROUP BY time($__interval), "arch" fill(null)
[11:06] <juliank> but divided by the same query without the exit_status filter
[13:29] <tseliot_> sarnold, hey, is there anything else that is needed for LP: #1935082 ?
[13:58] <ricotz> bdmurray, hi, could you leave a comment on this bug with you concerns please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1929999
[14:02] <seb128> ricotz, he marked invalid for the current serie, probably because there is a newer version there already?
[14:03] <ricotz> seb128, hi, no, this targets focal, but the upstream tag isn
[14:03] <ricotz> oops
[14:03] <ricotz> seb128, hi, no, this targets focal, but the upstream tag isnt an official release
[14:04] <ricotz> seb128, please take a look and leave a comment if possible
[14:12] <seb128> ricotz, sorry I miss the context so maybe my comment was off, I though you were reacting to the change to mark it as invalid but maybe you are pointing out something else?
[14:14] <ricotz> seb128, I had a short chat here with him, so it seems better if those concerns which came up are mentioned in the bug
[14:14] <seb128> ricotz, ah, right then, see it confused me who was not there :p
[14:15] <ricotz> seb128, your opinion is welcome too :)
[14:16] <seb128> ricotz, well, I don't know what's the concern at this point. We usually accepted to SRU stable updates from a same serie so I don't know what Brian pushed back oj
[14:17] <ricotz> seb128, the bug description should cover that
[14:17] <seb128> ack
[14:17] <ricotz> there are no "official" releases of libreoffice 6.4.x anymore, but special branches are still maintained
[14:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: makedumpfile (focal-proposed/main) [1:1.6.7-1ubuntu2.2 => 1:1.6.7-1ubuntu2.3] (core)
[18:09] <vorlon> stgraber: I think it makes sense to unmute the jammy queue, now that the mass auto-sync is done?
[18:13] <Odd_Bloke> Hey folks, would it be possible to add "reimport debootstrap into git-ubuntu" to the opening checklist, post the SRUing of the new release symlink?
[18:15] <vorlon> rbasak: ^^ any comments on this?
[18:16] <vorlon> the package metadata doesn't show it's maintained in git-ubuntu; I'd rather not put it on the release team to do special per-package git-ubuntury
[18:30] <stgraber> unmute queue jammy-proposed
[18:30] <stgraber> vorlon: ^ that should do it
[18:30] <vorlon> stgraber: cheers
[18:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted swtpm [source] (jammy-proposed) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1]
[18:39] <sarnold> tseliot: we'll probably discuss #1935082 in tomorrow's MIR team meeting; my feeling is that alberto's most recent comment is probably sufficient for someone else on the desktop team to know how to test the package. I know it wouldn't be enough for me, but that's because I basically only run urxvt and firefox and don't know the space of 3d applications well
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: swtpm [s390x] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: swtpm [arm64] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: swtpm [armhf] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: swtpm [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: swtpm [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:27] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke, vorlon: looks like the git-ubuntu importer service is failed/flapping. I'll sort it out. There shouldn't normally be anything special needed to pick up on a new release.
[19:27] <rbasak> (it's flapping because the watchdog is giving up on it; I probably just need to increase the timeout)
[19:36] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: Ack, thanks!
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libsweble-wikitext-java [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.1.9-1] (no packageset)
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: php-defaults [amd64] (jammy-proposed/main) [84~0ubuntu2] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[19:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libsweble-wikitext-java [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [3.1.9-1]
[19:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-defaults [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [84~0ubuntu2]
[19:56] <Odd_Bloke> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/+bug/1948713 would avoid this problem for me entirely in future, FWIW)
[20:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: octavia (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1:8.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 1:8.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[20:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: octavia (focal-proposed/universe) [6.2.1-0ubuntu1 => 6.2.1-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[21:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-glance-store (focal-proposed/main) [2.0.0-0ubuntu2 => 2.0.0-0ubuntu3] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted swtpm [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1]
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted swtpm [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1]
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted swtpm [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1]
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted swtpm [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1]
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted swtpm [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [0.6.1-0ubuntu1]
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[00:03] <MrChrisDruif_> BluesKaj: Ghehe ^_^
[00:04] <MrChrisDruif_> Well, "almost" perfect
[00:05] <MrChrisDruif_> BluesKaj: I can't login to my own account
[00:17] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, so it seems lightdm doesn't want to be friends anymore ^_^
[02:05] <Fudge> 64 image didnt boot a desktop for me
[02:31] <imnichol> So how do I go from 12.04 to the 12.10 alpha?
[02:36] <Fudge> would my vidcard be causing a problem with this iso, [AMD] nee ATI Juniper XT [AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series]
[10:15] <BluesKaj> 'morning
[10:18] <MrChrisDruif> Hi BluesKaj
[10:26] <BluesKaj> hi MrChrisDruif , how did your 12.10 install go?
[10:27] <MrChrisDruif> BluesKaj; only lightdm stopped loving me, I dpkg-reconfigure'd gdm to make it work. Just now I've dpkg-reconfigure'd lightdm to see if it works again after using gdm
[10:30] <BluesKaj> right , lightdm has a few problems , so that's not a surprise
[10:31] <MrChrisDruif> It pretty new, so it'll probably don't handle upgrades as it should
[10:50] <Fudge> hi guys, i am hoping todays iamge will boot for me
[10:50] <Fudge> iamge
[10:50]  * Fudge gives up
[10:52] <MrChrisDruif> Fudge; I only switched sources. Only lightdm broke for me
[10:53] <Fudge> MrChrisDruif  thats pretty good all things considered
[10:54] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah
[13:30] <Daekdroom> Hm.. I haven't read a single thing yet about GTK+2 being dropped from the CD this cycle :(
[15:34] <rymate1234> boo
[15:43] <JonEdney> Windows Update, brb
[16:32] <iceroot> any news about wayland in 12.10?
[16:32] <iceroot> or more like a thing for 13.04?
[16:34] <iceroot> ah ok found it, it should work in 12.04 (german link) http://www.golem.de/news/displayserver-wayland-soll-in-ubuntu-12-10-funktionieren-1205-91717.html
[16:42] <BluesKaj> iceroot, the english translation isn't so great , btw
[16:46] <BluesKaj> i found this , http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5OTY
[21:41] <MrChrisDruif> BluesKaj; I'd thought you might want to know that LightDM works again ^_^
[21:42] <BluesKaj> ok , MrChrisDruif , good to know :)
[21:42] <MrChrisDruif> I do like it better then GDM, it's ugly
[21:43] <BluesKaj> never tried it myself since I was advised it's not too great with kde
[21:43] <MrChrisDruif> [However, the automatic background isn't working =(, but that didn't work before the upgrade either]
[21:47] <IdleOne> Are there any OMGwhatdidido reasons not to reboot right now?
[21:49] <IntuitiveNipple> MrChrisDruif: I found it needs the background to be changed away and back to what it is to get lightdm to 'see' it
[21:49] <IdleOne> I'll take the silence as a clear response to go ahead and reboot
[21:50] <MrChrisDruif> IntuitiveNipple; you mean taking a different one, log out and in and change it back again?
[21:50] <IntuitiveNipple> MrChrisDruif: No, log-in, change the background, change it back, log-out and it worked in lightdm for me
[21:50] <IntuitiveNipple> And I others found the same thing
[21:51] <MrChrisDruif> Alright...
[21:51] <MrChrisDruif> I'll check it out
[22:18] <kayve> So this channel is about 12.10 and not 12.04?  I guess I just updated to 12.04 and I have issues.
[22:19] <MrChrisDruif> kayve; we're 12.10
[22:19] <Debolaz> kayve: It's for 12.10.
[22:19] <MrChrisDruif> 12.04 support in #ubuntu
[22:21] <kayve> nobody ever answers in #ubuntu.  I have been there numerous times over the past years and I have never gotten an answer there.
[22:21] <Debolaz> Hehe, I know that feeling. Only fairly trivial questions are likely to be answered there.
[22:22] <Debolaz> But this is usually true for IRC in general, not that particular help channel.
[22:22] <Debolaz> *not just
[22:22] <kayve> My Classic Gnome is not acting right at all after upgrade to 12.04
[22:22] <MrChrisDruif> kayve; you *could* also try #ubuntu-beginners they offer also support for the current release, thou they are few and far between. A lot more personal attention thou
[22:23] <kayve> I have got some good answers from IRC channels.. my theory today was getting a channel with the perfect population, not too big, not too small
[22:24] <kayve> sometimes folk get downright mean in here.  then I have to just forget about it
[22:24] <Debolaz> kayve: It helps a lot to have a problem description. If you just say "I have a problem with <x>", people are not likely to bother asking why.
[22:24] <kayve> I have been told that I ask questions that are too manual-answerable.
[22:24] <kayve> I know.
[22:24] <kayve> I started with the question about version 12.04 and 12.10 that was easy
[22:25] <kayve> my workspaces seem broken
[22:25] <kayve> I can't send my dozen Firefox instances properly to other workspaces and the volume widget isn't on the top bar.
[22:25] <kayve> I guess I should google setting it on the command line or something.
[22:26] <Debolaz> It seems workspaces are broken for several people in GNOME Classic on 12.04.
[22:27] <kayve> hopefully this will imply a soon update that will fix it  ?  or we are forced to be Mac users?
[22:27] <kayve> I confused somebody calling the new Gnome to be "MacIntosh-esque"
[22:28] <kayve> hopefully this isn't so confusing to you.
[22:28] <Debolaz> Well, a fix might be complicated to implement in this case if it's not something easily reproducible from a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[22:28] <kayve> Can I supply some pertinant bug info somewhere to help?
[22:29] <Debolaz> Can you (Using VirtualBox so you dont need to wipe out your system) try to reproduce the problem with a fresh installation? And if the problem is reproducible that way, file a bug where you describe the steps you did to make the problem happen.
[22:29] <kayve> ::oh mwan:: "VirtualBox" well.. I guess this was something I supposedly was going to try to do anyway...
[22:29] <Debolaz> A bug report may not guarantee someone will be able to fix it, but it is a prerequisite for getting it fixed. :)
[22:30] <Debolaz> And if you can include steps to reproduce the problem, that gives people a lot more to work on.
[22:30] <kayve> Somebody told me that if I installed Microsoft on a VM so I could run ChessBase on it I wouldn't have the same terrible performance I observed on Wine
[22:30] <kayve> ::sigh::  I wish I was a more motivated person.  I want to go to the gym soon.
[22:31] <Debolaz> Hehe, don't we all.
[22:31] <MrChrisDruif> No, I want to eat a pancake...and I will!
[22:31] <Debolaz> VirtualBox is free (As in open source) and easy to use, so don't worry.
[22:31] <kayve> well.. what I was thinking was is there any way I can slurp some linux guts out of some log files or something from my system to provide a good robust bug report?
[22:32] <kayve> I need to get better at understanding log files.. but I guess I should acquiesce to VM supposedly it is the future but folk seem to be ignoring that Moore's Law died a decade ago.
[22:33] <Debolaz> There is a tool that will gather information from most log files for a bug report, however you really want to see if this is a reproducible bug. It's always a lot easier to fix a bug that you can see with your own eyes instead of just relying on some log files.
[22:33] <kayve> can I install VM thru the Ubuntu Software Center?
[22:34] <Debolaz> VirtualBox can be installed through the software center yes.
[22:34] <kayve> or if you can give me a URL with root prompt instructions that would be fine too
[22:35] <Debolaz> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads can also be used if you want to be sure you have the most up to date version. (However, the version in Software Center should be just fine)
[22:35] <kayve> then I should maybe .. uh.. get the 12.04 iso or something?  I haven't done any of this .. well.. we did this thing called "bochs" that was some sort of VM I guess for a course at SFSU
[22:36] <Debolaz> Yes, get the normal 12.04 desktop iso.
[22:36] <kayve> Ubuntu Software Center is maybe 40% done with install
[22:36] <Debolaz> Bochs is to VirtualBox what an earthworm is to a Ferrari Enzo.
[22:37] <kayve> oh you're familiar with it.  That's good.  I think the reason for that is like "tinyShell" or uh.. because it was an undergraduate course
[22:37] <kayve> "tinyOS" is.. what I was thinking "tOS"
[22:38] <kayve> or was it TOS?
[22:38] <kayve> OK it's installed.. uh..
[22:38] <Debolaz> Bochs emulates an entire machine. Every single instruction is emulated. VirtualBox runs most of the OS inside it natively.
[22:38] <Debolaz> So the performance difference between Bochs and VirtualBox is…. Significant.
[22:39] <kayve> still 32 bit?  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[22:39] <Debolaz> Yes, 32 bit is usually fine.
[22:39] <Debolaz> 32 bit will work on 64 bit machines.
[22:42] <kayve> I know about 32 bit.. that is what I have been doing, but when is all the stuff going to become 64 bit?  41 minutes remaining to download ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso  Is that really going to take that long?  I have DSL.  300KB/sec my rate is increasing.  I want to go work out.. that may take a half hour .. you think you will still be logged on then?
[22:42] <mongo> I just run kvm/libvirt, it is less intrusive on the guest OS
[22:42] <Debolaz> Sure, I'll probably be on for about 5-6 hours.
[22:42] <kayve> Can I use VirtualBox to install Microsoft too I guess?  Will it run ChessBase fast you think?
[22:42] <Debolaz> Just go and work out. :)
[22:42] <kayve> OK thanks  {:)
[22:43] <Debolaz> Yes, you can install any OS that runs on your host machine inside VirtualBox.
[22:43] <kayve> 20.3% body fat. gotta get that down
[22:43]  * Debolaz believes he is around 106% at the moment,


[09:42] <anpok_> alan_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~andreas-pokorny/mir/load-all-supported-input-platforms/+merge/274421/comments/702108 you mean the mouse cursor itself is not moving?
[09:42] <alan_g> anpok_: right
[09:43] <anpok_> with a touchpad or mose?.. do you have logs from the hosting server?
[09:44] <alan_g> It's a lenovo - there's both a touchpad and a button in the keyboard. The latter is what works with the current input stack, but not with the MP
[09:45] <alan_g> (It does move without the button presses)
[10:09] <anpok_> alan_g: hm oh libinput might have defaulted to disable while typing
[10:09] <anpok_> but that would be odd for modifier keys
[10:10] <anpok_> i remember a change for that ..
[10:10] <anpok_> whats your libinput version?
[10:11] <alan_g> hold on, I have to grab the laptop...
[10:12] <alan_g> libinput10
[10:16] <anpok_> 0.10  was the last abi breaking release.. the source version should be higher
[10:17] <anpok_> hm maybe I should finally make an MP that adds input configuration examplse and also one that makes disable while typing configureable
[10:17] <alan_g> sorry, 0.21.0
[10:17] <anpok_> thx will dig through logs
[10:34] <alan_g> alf_: did you get a response from CI re mir-mediumtests-builder-vivid-armhf?
[10:39] <alf_> alan_g: Yes, they fixed the infrastructure problem. The mir-mediumtests-runner-touch are now failing because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1515660 .
[10:42] <alf_> alan_g: I'll take a look. I need a break from the Android stuff.
[10:45] <alan_g> alf_: I thought it the same as I get 404 from https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-mediumtests-builder-vivid-armhf/4834/console and https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-mediumtests-builder-vivid-armhf/ ends on the 12th
[10:51] <alf_> alan_g: That's yet another problem (something goes wrong when publishing the result to the public server), but it doesn't affect the job result. Logs are available in s-jenkins.
[10:52] <alan_g> alf_: I can't access that since I have trouble with the VPN I've not been motivated to resolved.
[10:55] <anpok_> hm this is also a vivid-clang problem .. "Failed to trigger thread shutdown"
[10:55] <anpok_> *there
[10:56] <anpok_> in several MPs during NestedServer acceptance tests
[10:57] <anpok_>  NestedServer.display_configuration_reset_when_application_exits
[11:00] <anpok_> the mako test runner failure is beause 0.17.1 landed
[11:00] <anpok_> alf: we need to incorporate the changelog to lp:mir.. or even add an entry for 0.18.0
[11:01] <alf_> anpok_: ack, will take a look
[11:01] <anpok_> as a result of the newer version archive it only install some of the ci built packages..
[11:03] <anpok_> odd
[11:04] <anpok_> despite the complaints initially it does install the ci build
[14:25] <alan_g> alf_: kdub - at the root of some of the display config problems is the way that nested::Display manages overlapping (in my case cloned) outputs. It makes a surface supposedly the size of the bounding rectangle but also fullscreen on the first output in the overlap group: the server resizes the surface and things get "inconsistent". Is it better to have fullscreen surfaces for all active outputs? Or not have it fullscre
[14:25] <alan_g> en?
[14:25] <greyback_> alan_g: I see no reason why a nested server would want a non-fullscreen surface
[14:27] <alan_g> greyback_: in this case it wants one that covers all the overlapping outputs. Suppose your outputs are {{0, 0}, {100, 700}} and  {{0, 0}, {700, 100}} then the current logic wants  {{0, 0}, {700, 700}}
[14:28] <greyback_> alan_g: ah, cloned mode
[14:29] <anpok_> that may cause weird behavior for input too..
[14:29] <greyback_> if you're cloning the nested server's surface on each display, why would arrange things so it is partly occluded? i.e. is too big for each display
[14:30] <greyback_> either we choose size which is intersection of the display geometries, else we start scaling to fit
[14:31] <alan_g> greyback_: ...or we pick "the biggest" monitor and window the others.
[14:31] <alan_g> there are lots of options. But the current choice is broken.
[14:33] <greyback_> desktop currently chooses the intersection of the display geometries, which is most reliable choice I guess
[14:35] <alan_g> that also makes sense.
[14:35] <alf_> alan_g: greyback_: The single surface for overlapping is an optimization that's, in theory at least, worth having, but it's not necessary. Are there any downsides to option 2, not making the surface fullscreen?
[14:36] <alf_> greyback_: so for 0,0,100x700 0,0,700x100 it would show a 0,0,100x100 surface on both screens?
[14:36] <alan_g> Currently, the system-compositor WM rejects non-fullscreen surfaces
[14:36] <kdub> kgunn, I didn't see the mir packages installed from the silo...
[14:37] <alan_g> So that affects USC
[14:37] <kgunn> kdub: you have to pin the ppa
[14:37] <kdub> ah, right
[14:37] <kgunn> /etc/apt/preferences.d/extra-ppa.pref
[14:37] <kgunn> just copy that entry
[14:37] <kgunn> and modify one to be "landing-020"
[14:38] <kdub> ack
[14:38] <kgunn> kdub: so how did you get that thing to build without gles there ?
[14:38] <kdub> I don't know how silos work :) :/
[14:38] <kgunn> i was reading up on that....twins...and i guess it's always suppose to fail
[14:38] <kgunn> :)
[14:38] <alf_> alan_g: on the other hand, the single surface may interfere with overlay optimizations on the host server...
[14:39] <kgunn> kdub: i'm trying to get qtmir force merged around the xenial mess
[14:39] <kgunn> so we can add that back and rebuild more easily
[14:40] <alan_g> alf_: yes, I'm not sure how to evaluate the trade-offs
[14:45] <alf_> alan_g: We would need to measure unity8 FPS with the two approaches. For now I would say if (1) (one fullscreen surface per output) is simpler overall, go for that and we can revisit.
[14:45] <alf_> alan_g: greyback_: What are our main clone mode scenarios (for phone)?
[14:46] <anpok_> alf_, alan_g: would those two surface be overlapping on usc too?
[14:46] <greyback_> alf_: none in my opinion
[14:47] <greyback_> clone mode only makes sense for very limited situations - usually mirroring desktop onto projector for presentation
[14:47] <anpok_> alf_, alan_g: or would usc always be neutral and.. assume them to be side by side?
[14:47] <alf_> greyback_: then I guess the optimization isn't important anyway, so let's go for the simpler solution
[14:47] <alf_> alan_g: ^^
[14:48] <alan_g> anpok_: they are also overlapped in USC
[14:48] <alf_> anpok_: hmm, actually that's a good point
[14:49] <alan_g> alf_: ack. I just need to test that compositing isn't confused by overlapping display buffers.
[14:49] <anpok_> alan_g, alf_: thinking about the cursor..
[14:49] <anpok_> and enter exit events that we can probably filter out..
[14:52] <kdub> kgunn, alright, so i'm seeing what you're seeing, so I guess we had 2 corruption issues
[14:52] <kdub> because the demo_client_flicker one sure was a problem
[14:52] <kdub> where's our xmir source?
[14:52] <kgunn> kdub: one sec...lemme dig
[14:52] <kgunn> kdub: https://git.launchpad.net/~xmir-team/xorg-server/+git/xmir
[14:53] <kdub> kgunn, thanks, let me see if there's anything in there that stands out
[16:16] <tsdgeos> hi guys, i'm getting the "Failed to wait for event" exception of dispatch_loop in threaded_dispatcher.cpp
[16:17] <tsdgeos> when starting unity8 in my laptop
[16:17] <tsdgeos> any idea of what may be the culprit?
[16:25] <alan_g> anpok_: did you need me to do anything on laptop? (yet?)
[16:31] <anpok_> you would have to run evemu-describe and evemu-record as root
[16:32] <anpok_> but but for all involved devices
[16:32] <anpok_> so touchpad and touchpad button ... if those are exposed as separate
[17:28] <dandrader> anpok_, are we tracking the lacking of mouse acceleration on the relative mouse axes in some bug already?
[17:31] <dandrader> anpok_, if so this bug could be make a duplicate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1517133
[17:31] <dandrader> s/make/made


 @wxl, Weird, I never asked for the removal of pool/
 if it's the consequence of a seed change, it's not the expected behavior :-/
 You said you liked to break  things 😂
 Yes, but only when I know I'm breaking something :-)
 That's my boss ☺
 Since it's also an Ubuntu Studio problem maybe it's their doing


[05:35] <newb> i have a
[05:35] <newb> opne question
[05:35] <newb> *open
[05:35] <newb> i could never understand , how do ubuntu developers earn a living?
[05:35] <newb>  i want to do exciting things like ubuntu
[05:35] <newb> but how would i make a living then?
[05:39] <starcraftman> newb: most ubuntu devs I believe have day jobs like working for companies. Say oracle, fedora, etc... This isn't right channel btw, this is for meetings of official teams.
[08:42] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:45] <Kartik> whats yr orkut's ID
[08:45] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:45] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:45] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:45] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:45] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:45] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:45] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:45] <Kartik> whats yr orkut's ID
[08:46] <Kartik> whats yr orkut's ID
[08:46] <Kartik> whats yr orkut's ID
[08:46] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:46] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:46] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:46] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[08:54] <jpds> Kartik: Erm, dude.
[08:54] <jpds> Kartik: Please use #ubuntu for support.
[09:03] <hyperair> i understand some people are just plain impatient, but what good can re-sending the question every two seconds do?
[09:04] <hyperair> besides annoying the hell out of every one around, that i
[09:04] <hyperair> s


[00:00] <Omnifrog> I have to build every damn thing from source to get back on the air but I think I'm back
[23:56] <Omnifrog> live at froggies house http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8003


[19:09] <jbicha> j1mc: hi
[19:10] <j1mc> hi jbicha
[19:10] <j1mc> i'm reviewing your patch now
[19:10] <j1mc> sorry, got it last night, but must've half-read it in a slumber
[19:10] <jbicha> ok, np