[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> EGamerHDK: That's 622
[00:00] <EGamerHDK> So umask 044 subtracts from 666?
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> EGamerHDK: It subtracts, but (I thought) from 777
[00:01] <EGamerHDK> So how'd you get 622?
[00:01] <EGamerHDK> That's what I'm confused about
[00:01] <Dr_Willis_> fir directories i think its differnt.
[00:02] <Dr_Willis_> vs for a file.
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> r = 100; w = 10, x = 1. All in binary.
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Set into user/group/all
[00:03] <_thufir_> is there some trick to installing SANE so that the samsung unified driver recognizes it?  It's installed, but the driver says no such luck:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/294965/
[00:03] <SonikkuAmerica> EGamerHDK: (Also see above) So 622 = user read/write; group write-only; everyone write-only.
[00:03] <SonikkuAmerica> EGamerHDK: You're better off using chmod
[00:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis_: Permissions for dirs are the same, but with x being the "list" bit.
[00:05] <harris> i have a webcam that doesnt make linux drivers how can i make it work
[00:05] <ubuntu> I need help with ubuntu
[00:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !help | ubuntu
[00:06] <ubuntu> someone call me pleae at<PHONE_NUMBER>
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest63665: Are you looking for support via Canonical or something...? We're the community support channel.
[00:06] <SonikkuAmerica> (Great, /quit)
[00:07] <kb8wlu> need help with ubuntu
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: Well... what's your camera? Is it built-in? What else should we know?
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | kb8wlu
[00:07] <kb8wlu> ok
[00:07] <harris> SonikkuAmerica, it is a logitech model # V-UAP42
[00:07] <Controlsfreek> NetworkManager is having trouble connecting to my Wifi router. The only thing thats changed is running updates. Same issue on two different makes of laptop.
[00:07] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I stream my videos from HDD attached to my wireless router (asus rt-n66u) in my ubuntu 13.04?
[00:08] <kb8wlu> i need help installing ubuntu 13.04 on win7 dual boot with two hard drives
[00:08] <darthanubis> mojtaba, consult your router
[00:09] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, specifically?
[00:09] <mojtaba> darthanubis: There is no help there!
[00:09] <darthanubis> mojtaba, thats too bad
[00:09] <mojtaba> darthanubis: The manual is very brief.
[00:09] <darthanubis> mojtaba, how can ubuntu help?
[00:09] <SonikkuAmerica> harris: That just doesn't seem to be supported. Sorry.
[00:10] <kb8wlu> running win7 on my 512gig ssd drive and a sata 80gig  i want to dual boot ubuntu on 80gig
[00:10] <harris> ok
[00:10] <mojtaba> darthanubis: I am asking, may be someone has been is such a situation before.
[00:10] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, do it. Put the cd/usb stick in and go
[00:10] <jakemp> my path seems to not be set properly upon isntalling 13.04
[00:10] <darthanubis> mojtaba, I see. Then check the hdd manual?
[00:11] <kb8wlu> I rather have somone give me a call and walk this thru with me
[00:11] <darthanubis> mojtaba, can you even see the drive on your lan?
[00:11] <kb8wlu> it gets confusing with a newbie
[00:11] <mojtaba> darthanubis: I have access to it via ftp
[00:11] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, good luck getting a call. It is straight forward. Are you at least going to try?
[00:12] <pulseproblems> Still experiencing issues with pavucontrol not being able to connect to pulseaudio, even after remove --purge and install
[00:12] <kb8wlu> Yea i can try  i am on right now the try cd before installing
[00:12] <darthanubis> mojtaba, well, seems it can't be done unless it is a NAS?
[00:12] <kb8wlu> so i do install and then what?
[00:13] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, there will be instructions in the install
[00:13] <darthanubis> !install
[00:13] <mojtaba> darthanubis: It seems the router must have such capability.
[00:13] <SvenOostenbrink> Any reason why apt-get install vim would do nothing? I hav a 12.04 here, no vim (command vim gives me not found ,try installing package vim, etc)... but nothing.. I've never seen this before
[00:14] <kb8wlu> im using 13.04 version
[00:14] <_thufir_> how do you know that SANE is installed and configured correctly?  the Samsung unified driver doesn't see it:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/294965/
[00:14] <darthanubis> mojtaba, no. If it did you'd know. The device must have a means of sharing files.
[00:14] <mojtaba> darthanubis: It has.
[00:14] <pulseproblems> I have just `apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio` and `apt-get install pulseaudio`, but pavucontrol and other pulseaudio tools are not able to connect to the pulseaudio server.  Any suggestions on how I can get this working?
[00:14] <kb8wlu> it asking me install ubuntu alongside of them?
[00:14] <darthanubis> mojtaba, via cif/smb or nfs
[00:14] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, that is for you to decide
[00:15] <mojtaba> darthanubis: I am not sure. How can I check that?
[00:15] <kb8wlu> i want to install ubuntu on second hard drive not win7 hard drive
[00:15] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, you should READ the documentation so you are informed of your options. We can't walk you through an install with 1500 ppl in this channel.
[00:15] <brian234> wtf is up with the new ubuntu 13.04 shutdown menu, I can barely see it? Any way of  changing it?
[00:15] <darthanubis> mojtaba, read the hdd docs
[00:15] <kb8wlu> walk me thtu it please
[00:15] <mojtaba> darthanubis: Ok, thanks
[00:15] <darthanubis> np
[00:16] <kb8wlu> its so confusing
[00:16] <SvenOostenbrink> apt-get install anything does nothing, only ends with the error E: The package virtualbox-4.2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it... Anybody knows what this might be?
[00:16] <SvenOostenbrink> Or, how to solve it?
[00:17] <SvenOostenbrink> I see Reading state information... Done, then the error, and back to command line
[00:17] <darthanubis> SvenOostenbrink, you hosed something
[00:17] <kb8wlu> or is somone could call me?
[00:17] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu: in the installer i use the 'somting  else...' item. then partion manually the 2nd hd.. a partiton for / and one for swap. and perhaps one for /home
[00:17] <pulseproblems> SvenOostenbrink: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a && sudo apt-get install -f
[00:17] <Bigsista> mojtaba: http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=10193
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !gone
[00:17] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, really?
[00:17] <kb8wlu> ok dr willis
[00:17] <pulseproblems> SonikkuAmerica: Still having issues, if you have any other suggestions
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> pulseproblems: OK...
[00:17] <SvenOostenbrink> darthanubis: I didn't :) A (fired because being drunk working on server) admin did this, I have to fix it :)
[00:17] <mojtaba> Bigsista: Thanks for your help, I will take a look
[00:18] <SvenOostenbrink> I wish I was kidding..
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> pulseproblems: You have all the updates?
[00:18] <darthanubis> lol
[00:18] <darthanubis> nice
[00:18] <SvenOostenbrink> anyway, trying..
[00:18] <pulseproblems> As far as I can tell, yes, SonikkuAmerica
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> SvenOostenbrink: If that doesn't work... you can mess with /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:19] <darthanubis> SvenOostenbrink, install synaptic
[00:19] <SvenOostenbrink> I imagine he messed that up as well
[00:19] <SvenOostenbrink> I got this server
[00:19] <SvenOostenbrink> no root password, so had to reboot in admin mode
[00:19] <kb8wlu> someone please help call me at<PHONE_NUMBER>
[00:19] <SvenOostenbrink> restarted server
[00:19] <SvenOostenbrink> and got :Grub error : file not found
[00:19] <SvenOostenbrink> ef me...
[00:19] <SvenOostenbrink> Now that thats fixed, I have this mess here :)
[00:20] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, do not do that
[00:20] <SonikkuAmerica> pulseproblems: OK...
[00:20] <mojtaba> Bigsista: Actually I have done this, the question is that, how can I stream a video on my ubuntu from that hard drive.
[00:20] <carfxr> Good eve. all
[00:20] <mojtaba> Bigsista: I have access to that HDD via FTP.
[00:21] <kb8wlu> i see my /dev/sda1 ntsf 80024mb do i sintall this on that one
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> kb8wlu: Select "Erase disk and install", then on the next screen you can select the hard disk you want to install Ubuntu on.
[00:22] <SvenOostenbrink> Worse, this is a ubuntu 12.04 server.. with ubuntu desktop installed.. I see some error messages about shockwave flash comming by... I am not a happy man..
[00:22] <kb8wlu> in this screen it doesnt give me an option to erase disk
[00:22] <darthanubis> SvenOostenbrink, purge ubuntu-desktop
[00:22] <SonikkuAmerica> pulseproblems: See if this issue helps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150990/how-do-i-re-activate-pulseaudio
[00:23] <SvenOostenbrink> darthanubis: I would love to, but cant do that just yet, who knows what this dude has setup to run on the desktop.. This thing is a bloody mess, gotta take it step by step..
[00:23] <kb8wlu> im in the instullation type screnn
[00:23] <SvenOostenbrink> first gotta get apt working again
[00:23] <carfxr> I am using Ubuntu 13.04 and when I have an external monitor connected the system will hang, (no action other than Mouse movement) any ideas?
[00:24] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  thats not a 'second hard drive' thats a partion on your first hard drive
[00:24] <darthanubis> SvenOostenbrink, try the cmd then report the exact error. We need specifics, which you are short on
[00:24] <SvenOostenbrink> Will do
[00:24] <kb8wlu> how can i give you a screen shot of what i see?
[00:24] <SvenOostenbrink> At the moment I am already happy that I have OS again :)
[00:24] <SvenOostenbrink> one sec
[00:24] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  i suggest you make backups of whates imporntant on your system first. befor trying anything. and perhaps play with ubuntu in virtualbox on windows if you want to experiment a bit first
[00:24] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, you should stop before you hose your windows install
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> kb8wlu: You can use the PrintScreen key, save the shot, and post it on Imagebin.
[00:24] <darthanubis> seriously
[00:25] <carfxr> Dart. was your response to me ?
[00:25] <SvenOostenbrink> darthanubis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5662969/
[00:26] <Vinnie_win> I did a sudo apt-get install git-core but I only got git 1.8.1.x how do I get the latest get (1.8.2.x?)
[00:26] <kb8wlu> ok i print screen how do i post it to chat
[00:26] <Dr_Willis_> Vinnie_win:  if its not in the repos.. use a ppa, or source
[00:26] <SvenOostenbrink> darthanubis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5662974/
[00:26] <SonikkuAmerica> !imagebin | kb8wlu, try this?
[00:27] <kb8wlu> !imagebin
[00:27] <Dr_Willis_> no one ever reads what the bot says.. ;)
[00:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis_: lolol
[00:28] <Bigsista> SvenOostenbrink: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree
[00:28] <SvenOostenbrink> darthanubis: Bigsista: Gottit, dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox-4.2 did the trick :)
[00:28] <cheffed> hello
[00:28] <cheffed> have a question
[00:28] <SvenOostenbrink> Bigsista: I do not want flash installed at all, its a server.. its just that that, for some reason, its showing stuff about flash as well.. this server is one mess
[00:29] <SvenOostenbrink> next problem fixed..
[00:29] <darthanubis> goo
[00:29] <darthanubis> d
[00:29] <cheffed> in ubuntu i cant find Online Accounts, even when i use the search function. Am i missing something?
[00:29] <cheffed> im on 13.04
[00:29] <kb8wlu> uploaded the screen shot
[00:29] <darthanubis> cheffed, system settingss
[00:29] <darthanubis> its right there
[00:29] <Dr_Willis_> cheffed:  top right icon..  ;)
[00:29] <cheffed> nop
[00:30] <cheffed> its not there darth
[00:30] <kb8wlu> http://imagebin.org/257566 help
[00:30] <cheffed> sorry
[00:30] <cheffed> i swear
[00:30] <cheffed> so strange
[00:30] <FloodBot1> cheffed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <darthanubis> cheffed, fresh install?
[00:30] <cheffed> yes sir. plus updated
[00:30] <kb8wlu> dont know how to install this
[00:30] <kb8wlu> http://imagebin.org/257566
[00:31] <kb8wlu> need someon that know what their doing
[00:31] <darthanubis> lol
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> kb8wlu: Hit Quit, open the file manager and mount that hard drive.
[00:31] <kb8wlu> lol
[00:31] <SvenOostenbrink> darthanubis: Thanks for the input!
[00:31] <waltermundt> trying to build some custom packages with pbuilder, and pbuilder-satisfydepends is failing
[00:31] <darthanubis> np
[00:31] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  so is there anything on that sda1 that you want to keep?
[00:31] <kb8wlu> Ok dr wilis
[00:32] <kb8wlu> Nope
[00:32] <darthanubis> cheffed, the top row in system settings you have what exactly?
[00:32] <waltermundt> using pbuilder --login and installing the dependencies it lists from within the chroot works
[00:32] <darthanubis> all on one line plz
[00:32] <kb8wlu> how do i open up the file mamanger
[00:32] <cheffed> momento
[00:32] <Bigsista> Dr_Willis_: prolly hi win7 mbr
[00:32] <Bigsista> hi = his
[00:32] <darthanubis> kb8wlu, are you serious?
[00:32] <waltermundt> tried to diagnose by running a hook, but it doesn't seem to attend to the HOOK_DIR/--hookdir option, and deletes the chroot even with --debug
[00:32] <SonikkuAmerica> darthanubis: Please don't.
[00:33] <kb8wlu> im in file manager now what?
[00:33] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:    to be 'safest' you may want to power down the pc. Unplug the window hard drive.. that way it wont get touched.. then install to  the 80gb hd.. then plug the windows hd back in later
[00:33] <cheffed> appearance, brightness and lock, keyboard, language supp, myunity, privacy, ubuntu one, ubuntu tweak
[00:33] <R44TW4NGNULL> HI
[00:33] <waltermundt> any ideas for how to diagnose what's going on?
[00:33] <SonikkuAmerica> !caps | R44TW4NGNULL
[00:33] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  its a little weird that you got windows on sdb.  but  it should still work fine.
[00:33] <darthanubis> SonikkuAmerica, don't what? help?
[00:33] <kb8wlu> ok dr wilis im doing that now thanks
[00:33] <R44TW4NGNULL> okay
[00:33] <SonikkuAmerica> darthanubis: Don't be discouraging. That is all.
[00:33] <carfxr> What is the proper format for asking for help here ?
[00:33] <SonikkuAmerica> carfxr: Just ask!
[00:33] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  and you are SURE theres nothing on that 80gb hd you want to keep.
[00:34] <kb8wlu> well like i said i dont know what the hell im doing
[00:34] <cheffed> any ideaś darth?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  perhaps you should educate your self first then.. or just use virtualbox for now
[00:34] <kb8wlu> No i want ubuntu to use the whole 80gig hard drive
[00:34] <kb8wlu> i just want this setup right
[00:34] <R44TW4NGNULL> can we use wifi in virtual box or vmware
[00:34] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  its a straight forward question.. IS there anything on that 80gb hd you want to keep? if not .. then  the instgaller  has an option to use all of the hd.
[00:35] <R44TW4NGNULL> any body knows
[00:35] <kb8wlu> Yes lets do that dr
[00:35] <carfxr> I am having a issue with 13,04, when I connect an external monitor the system will hang with onlu mouse movement
[00:35] <_thufir_> how do you know that SANE is installed and configured correctly?  the Samsung unified driver doesn't see it:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/294965/
[00:35] <R44TW4NGNULL> about wifi in
[00:35] <R44TW4NGNULL> vmaware
[00:35] <darthanubis> SonikkuAmerica, was trying to hep that person before you showed up. After the replies, I wonder, so I asked honestly. Trying to prevent them from giving out their personal information, and hosing their system. But you with the don't?
[00:35] <SonikkuAmerica> kb8wlu: What Dr_Willis_ said is: Turn off your machine, open your computer up and disconnect the hard drive that ISN'T the one you want to install Ubuntu onto. Then power back up and boot from the live media.
[00:36] <SonikkuAmerica> darthanubis: By don't I meant with the last one, not the whole personal info thing.
[00:36] <kunji> http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Ed-Vector-12135210
[00:36] <cheffed> darth any suggestions?
[00:36] <R44TW4NGNULL> hay anyone knows about how can use wifi in vmware
[00:36] <darthanubis> This person can't find the file manger but you think it is good advise to have them OPEN their BOX?
[00:36] <Bigsista> R44TW4NGNULL: if the host has a working wifi connection you can use it as briged nic in vmware
[00:36] <kb8wlu> i have a 512ssd drive with windows 7 on it i will shut down computer and uplug  that hard drive
[00:36] <kunji> sorry, wrong window, lol
[00:36] <Dr_Willis_> darthanubis:  ive suggest using virtualbox several times...
[00:36] <darthanubis> I know you did Dr_Willis_
[00:36] <kb8wlu> dr willis can i call you on a phone?
[00:36] <R44TW4NGNULL> what  do u meaning of brodge connection bro
[00:37] <carfxr> I then have to reboot and all is well if I only ust the built in monitor.
[00:37] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  you need me to tell you how to unplug a hd?
[00:37] <kb8wlu> No dr
[00:37] <phpnode> hi all, i have a weird problem with a toshiba touch pad on 12.04, xinput list shows a SynPS2 touch pad, but it just doesn't work at all. i've checked that it's enabled using synclient and gconftool and it is, so i have no idea how to proceed, can anyone help me?
[00:37] <cheffed> open case
[00:37] <cheffed> get screwdriver
[00:37] <Dr_Willis_> UNPLUG from wall first.. ;)
[00:37] <SonikkuAmerica> darthanubis: I mean, you're right, better safe than sorry and Internet privacy and all, but just... calm down. You're starting to sound rather upset.
[00:37] <kb8wlu> but i will have to go thru this chat download agagin
[00:37] <R44TW4NGNULL> bridge connection what will do in
[00:37] <darthanubis> totally not upset
[00:37] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  chat download? err.. theres a freenode web-chat site.
[00:37] <Bigsista> R44TW4NGNULL: check vmware network modes docs
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> kb8wlu: http://webchat.freenode.net
[00:38] <kb8wlu> give me 10min i will unplug other hard drive and try cd unbuntu agagion
[00:38] <Dr_Willis_> the installer has a 'use the whole hard drive' option i recall....
[00:38] <Dr_Willis_> if you only have the one hd.. well.. there ya go.
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis_: "Erase disk and install Ubuntu"
[00:38] <kb8wlu> once i shut this computer down how do i get back here easy instead of going thru the terminalshit agagin
[00:39] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  i have no idwa what you had to do in the terminal to get to irc.. there is the web irc chat. and  the im clients on the live cd can do irc.
[00:39] <ramon> did the new version of ubuntu been release already?
[00:39] <cheffed> lets try this again, good evening all! first time here, most certainly not noob to mIRC, within one day completely hooked to Linux, deleted windows instantly. Help me out here, i cant seem to find "Online accounts" under system settings, the feature simply isnt there, anybody has any fresh ideaś of where to get it? im currently on ubuntu 13.04 completely updated
[00:39] <kb8wlu> I have two hard drives one using win7 and one for ubuntu
[00:39] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  perhaps watch some youtube videos on installing uuntu?
[00:39] <darthanubis> ramon, 25 of last month
[00:39] <SonikkuAmerica> kb8wlu: Write this down and type it in your web browser as soon as you're done: http://webchat.freenode.net
[00:39] <kb8wlu> i want to dual boot
[00:40] <kb8wlu> ok
[00:40] <SonikkuAmerica> kb8wlu: Also write down the channel, #ubuntu
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> kb8wlu:  unplug windows.. install ubuntu to other hd... make sure it works.. plug back in windows hd...
[00:40] <ramon> darthanubis, why i have not receive the upgrade in my updates?
[00:40] <hernandez> hola, como entro al canal ubuntu español?
[00:40] <darthanubis> ramon, I have no idea as that is your system
[00:41] <kb8wlu> Ok Dr
[00:41] <kb8wlu> willis
[00:41] <darthanubis> !spanish } hernandez
[00:41] <kb8wlu> be back in few
[00:41] <ramon> darthanubis, is there a way to invocate the upgrade some how?
[00:41] <cheffed> Help me out here, i cant seem to find "Online accounts" under system settings, the feature simply isnt there, anybody has any fresh ideaś of where to get it? im currently on ubuntu 13.04 completely updated
[00:41] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | hernandez
[00:41] <darthanubis> !spanish | hernandez
[00:41] <hernandez> !spanish
[00:41] <SonikkuAmerica> darthanubis: Don't ask me why that doesn't work. :)
[00:41] <kunji> http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Syber-Tyger-Face-Vector-48122632
[00:41] <kunji> aahh, sorry -_-, wrong one again
[00:41] <kunji> closing this out now, to prevent more mishaps
[00:41] <carfxr> does anybody have any ideas ?
[00:41] <hernandez> !es
[00:42] <darthanubis> ramon, sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:42] <cheffed> Help me out here, i cant seem to find "Online accounts" under system settings, the feature simply isnt there, anybody has any fresh ideaś of where to get it? im currently on ubuntu 13.04 completely updated
[00:42] <darthanubis> ramon, what version you on 12.10?
[00:42] <ramon> Dartellum, yes
[00:42] <ramon> precise
[00:42] <cheffed> ah uhm
[00:42] <darthanubis> cheffed, still waiting for your answer
[00:42] <Bigsista> cheffed: install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/account-plugins
[00:43] <cheffed> im so sorry
[00:43] <darthanubis> ramon, read the 13.04 release notes to upgrade
[00:43] <cheffed> im on 12.04
[00:43] <darthanubis> lol
[00:43] <cheffed> shit i was under the impression to have been on the latest
[00:43] <cheffed> i just checked
[00:43] <darthanubis> !language
[00:43] <cheffed> sorry bro
[00:43] <cheffed> my mistake
[00:44] <darthanubis> np
[00:44] <ramon> darthanubis, what you talking about?...lol
[00:44] <darthanubis> cheffed, this place is like church :-P
[00:44] <cheffed> what did i swear?
[00:44] <darthanubis> ramon, what do you think?
[00:44] <cheffed> haha
[00:44] <SonikkuAmerica> The Church of Ubuntu... worship 24/7/365
[00:45] <cheffed> deep uptmost respect for you people explaining others how to dual boot and such...
[00:45] <darthanubis> cheffed, trying
[00:45] <cheffed> which is even for me, peanuts
[00:45] <savagecroc> hi
[00:45] <cheffed> btw, have people found out google?
[00:45] <SonikkuAmerica> cheffed: That's the exception in most cases.
[00:45] <SonikkuAmerica> There is a !google bot command..
[00:45] <cheffed> seems you can find a great deal of information there
[00:45] <savagecroc> i need to blacklist ips that attempt to do hack attempts.. any recommendations as to what software
[00:45] <savagecroc> ?
[00:45] <darthanubis> cheffed, for work I have to explain to grandmothers who to work remote controls. I learned patience and detachment.
[00:45] <cheffed> ;)
[00:46] <darthanubis> savagecroc, snort
[00:46] <Dr_Willis_> savagecroc:  fail2ban  is commonly used.. and logwatch to monitor stuff
[00:46] <savagecroc> darthanubis: not what i had in mind
[00:46] <darthanubis> ok
[00:46] <savagecroc> dr_willas: excellent
[00:46] <savagecroc> thanks
[00:46] <cheffed> for work im a perfectionist and dont make friends for a living in the kitchen
[00:46] <cheffed> haha
[00:46] <Bigsista> savagecroc: fail2ban if you have log patterns
[00:46] <cheffed> anywho
[00:46] <cheffed> im hooked on ubuntu right now
[00:46] <darthanubis> cool
[00:46] <savagecroc> Bigsista: is there anyway i can hook into this architecture to ban them based on application logic?
[00:47] <Ari-Yang> hi, I have a question, not sure if it has any relation to ubuntu. I've noticed this odd white line on the far left of my screen. It isn't long, rather short, it isn't completely straight, it's like a jagged line. Anybody have an idea on what it is and how I can fix it?
[00:47] <Ari-Yang> (I'm on ubuntu 12.10)
[00:47] <Bigsista> savagecroc: fail2ban scane logs for regex patterns
[00:47] <somsip> savagecroc: if you can get the app to write to a log, Fail2Ban scans all logs for patterns you want to activate a IP block for
[00:47] <cheffed> i do have one more questions
[00:47] <Dr_Willis_> savagecroc:  how are they trying to connect?
[00:47] <cheffed> question
[00:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Ari-Yang: What output screen type (TV, monitor, etc.) are you using?
[00:47] <somsip> s/all/all nominated/
[00:47] <cheffed> is thre some easy way to upgrade to 13.04?
[00:48] <savagecroc> Dr_Willis_: ah it's website hacks
[00:48] <darthanubis> cheffed, yes
[00:48] <savagecroc> but they go on for hours and trigger a million error emails
[00:48] <Ari-Yang> SonikkuAmerica, it's my laptop screen.
[00:48] <carfxr> ari, can you put up a screenshot ?
[00:48] <Dr_Willis_> savagecroc: what?  they are trying to connect to what service? your mail server?
[00:48] <darthanubis> chefhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/279620/how-do-i-upgrade-from-12-10-to-13-04fed,
[00:48] <savagecroc> Dr_Willis_: http
[00:48] <darthanubis> cheffed,http://askubuntu.com/questions/279620/how-do-i-upgrade-from-12-10-to-13-04fed,
[00:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Ari-Yang: Hmmm... what kind of laptop?
[00:48] <Bigsista> savagecroc: one access_log or many?
[00:49] <savagecroc> Bigsista: many
[00:49] <Ari-Yang> @ SonikkuAmerica laptop isn't hooked up to any monitor with HDMI. The white line is on my laptop screen o:
[00:49] <Dr_Willis_> savagecroc:  so they are just connecting to random/invalid web pages on your web server?
[00:49] <savagecroc> Dr_Willis_: not just invalid ones.. they find forms on the sites and the post malformed http requests
[00:49] <Bigsista> savagecroc: what are thy doing?
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Ari-Yang: Is it there only during certain times, when certain apps are up, etc?
[00:49] <Ari-Yang> @ SonikkuAmerica dell inspiron n5010 i3 laptop
[00:50] <Ari-Yang> it's there all the time
[00:50] <Ari-Yang> whenever the laptop is turned on
[00:50] <Bigsista> savagecroc: the proper way would be mod_security. but it's a pain to confugure
[00:50] <savagecroc> Bigsista: looks like a spider going through the site, picks up every url, picks up every form.. then smashes every single one with malformed packets, malformed urls.. etc
[00:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, does it appear in a screenshot?
[00:50] <savagecroc> bigsista: using nginx
[00:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Ari-Yang: When it boots up?
[00:51] <Bigsista> savagecroc: ok back to fail2ban
[00:51] <madsailor> Ari-Yang,  post a screenshot as carfxr suggested.  If we see your white line, it may be software.  If we don't it's your laptop screen itself ;)
[00:51] <Ari-Yang> @ Seven_Six_Two what do you mean screen shot? I'm not really sure, I wouldn't think so. @ SonikkuAmerica yes, when the laptop is off you don't see any white line at all, it's there when it boots up. like you can see it before I login to my user on ubuntu
[00:52] <Bigsista> savagecroc: botnet or many connects from one ip?
[00:52] <savagecroc> this one was single ip
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> kk
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Ari-Yang: If it's a hardware problem the line won't appear in a screenshot.
[00:52] <savagecroc> other one was from multiple
[00:52] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with Thunderbird after having installed it on a fresh Ubuntu installation. I copied over the ".thunderbird"-folder but for some reason the main messages-window doesn't show any messages for my main Email-account.
[00:52] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, hit the print screen button on your keyboard. It should create an image
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> okay, I'll take a screen shot of my desktop, then use a picture editing program do circle the area where the line is
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> that sound good?
[00:53] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, yes
[00:53] <Ari-Yang> okay, give me a moment
[00:53] <Bigsista> savagecroc: go for fail2ban. we started kicking out chinese, russian and brailian bots about two years ago
[00:53] <_thufir_> how do you know that SANE is installed and configured correctly?  the Samsung unified driver doesn't see it:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/294965/
[00:54] <savagecroc> Bigsista: ok :)
[00:54] <Bigsista> savagecroc: just find a godd pattern, set kick to 5 posts in 5 seconds and ban them for at least 24 hours
[00:55] <amarcolino> Hi, does anyone know how or if it is possible to search the files inside a directory for a specific word?
[00:55] <Dr_Willis_> amarcolino:  grep searches text files for patterns IN the files
[00:55] <Seven_Six_Two> amarcolino, yes, it's possible. I'm not sure how, but I would imagine that you would use grep, maybe egrep
[00:56] <somsip> amarcolino: grep -r -i word /path
[00:57] <Ari-Yang> @ Seven_Six_Two there is no need to u/l the image, when I opened up the screen shot in gimp, I don't see the white line in it
[00:57] <ramon> wow there is already a 13.10 version to be test it?
[00:57] <Ari-Yang> so it's hardware...
[00:57] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, yes. Likely dead pixels, or a damaged vga cable.
[00:57] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, also possibly loose connector?
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> hmmm
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> I wonder if it can be fixed
[00:58] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, sometimes pixels can get stuck.
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> any way to get them unstuck?
[01:00] <amarcolino> somsip, thanks that works :D
[01:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, massage the screen; rapidly cycle colors on screen; disassemble laptop and reassemble; replace screen.
[01:02] <carfxr> I have actually had a dead pixel that was fixed by gently massaging the area.
[01:02] <paul> dr wilis you their
[01:02] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, http://www.whitecitysoft.com/sx/screenfix/
[01:02] <Dr_Willis_> paul:  in and out. ;)
[01:02] <Ari-Yang> @ Seven_Six_Two what will that site do?
[01:03] <paul> dr wilis im back installed Ubuntu on my 80 gig hard drive now when i plug ssd 512 hard drive in will it ask me what i wanna to boot to?
[01:03] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, cycle colors
[01:03] <carfxr> I suggest using a very soft cloth
[01:03] <Ari-Yang> ah, it won't damage the screen, will it?
[01:03] <Seven_Six_Two> don't push too hard
[01:03] <Dr_Willis_> paul:  you will need to boot to ubuntu with the hd pluged in and do a 'sudo update-grub' and it should add windows to the grub menu.
[01:03] <Dr_Willis_> paul:  OR you use the bios features of the pc to boot the windows hd directly
[01:03] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, no, it won't hurt at all
[01:03] <Ari-Yang> ah
[01:04] <Ari-Yang> okay, I'll try it, but I doubt it would work..
[01:04] <Ari-Yang> testing
[01:04] <Dr_Willis_> paul:  you will want to set the pc to boot the 80gb hd. not the ssd
[01:04] <paul> ok so let me shut down and plug other hard drive in and be back here in 10 min
[01:04] <carfxr> The one I had was right in the center of the screen and I used a new lens cleaning cloth and gently rubbed the area until it was gone.
[01:04] <paul> i will be back so give me the commands when i come back
[01:05] <veryhappy> does someone  of you know how to set ibus to start manually not automatically? i have anthy installed but now it automatically starts with my desktop session probably it's also just anthy that disturbs me, cause auto-completion hotkeys don't work when i have to press ctrl and space in eclipse but it's also set in anthy.
[01:05] <Bigsista> anyone using zentyal 3 in a production environment? i'm testing it for a project.
[01:05] <paul> ssd hard drive has win7 on it
[01:05] <Dr_Willis_> paul:  so you either tell the bios what HD to boot dependoing on what OS you want.. or boot to ubuntu and use grub to select what OS to boot to
[01:06] <paul> i want the grub to select
[01:06] <Dr_Willis_> so as i said then.. you set the PC to boot the Linux Hard drive by default
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> @ Seven_Six_Two no luck =/ Thanks for the help & suggestions though.
[01:07] <paul> wil grub give me an option on the screen to dual boot?
[01:07] <Dr_Willis_> Dr_Willi+| paul:  you will need to boot to ubuntu with the hd pluged in and do a 'sudo
[01:07] <Dr_Willis_>          | update-grub' and it should add windows to the grub menu.
[01:07] <veryhappy> paul: i'd also recommend you to use UUID's instead of /dev/sdx names, that's better not to confuse the pc when you next time boot with a usb stick in your computer
[01:07] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, did you already try massaging the area?
[01:07] <Ari-Yang> yeah, that didn't do anything
[01:07] <Ari-Yang> not sure how long I should do it
[01:07] <veryhappy> paul: yes it'll give you a possibility to choose what operating system you want to start
[01:07] <paul> Not using a usb stick
[01:07] <Ari-Yang> and if I would see a change right away
[01:08] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, did your screen discolor around where you were rubbing?
[01:08] <l_r> hello
[01:08] <paul> Ok let me go plug the ssd hard drive in and come back here dr willis
[01:08] <Seven_Six_Two> while you were pressing?
[01:08] <veryhappy> paul, i mean sometimes you just have a data usb stick plugged in and your computer could be confused then
[01:08] <Ari-Yang> @ Seven_Six_Two discolor? what do you mean? the whole screen loosing color/the area where the white line is? no, not at all
[01:08] <paul> Be back soon
[01:08] <Shrap> 'lo
[01:09] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, no, when you press on an lcd monitor, there should be discoloration around where you press.
[01:09] <Shrap> so, if anyone is available to help, i have some major wireless issues.  major as in attempting to connect is DoS'ing my wireless network
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> @ Seven_Six_Two the thing is, like if I'm on a web page and the background color is black, the white line is there but it sort of takes on the black color. oh that's what you mean
[01:09] <veryhappy> Shrap: why would you want to DoS your wireless network?
[01:09] <Shrap> i dont, believe me xD
[01:10] <Shrap> i just want my laptop to connect and co-exist with my other wireless devices
[01:10] <veryhappy> Shrap: what did you get for problems with your wireless network?
[01:10] <veryhappy> hmm
[01:10] <Shrap> essentially what happens is, i connect to the network and it looks like it's just trying to auth over and over and over
[01:11] <Ari-Yang> @ Seven_Six_Two well I pressed on the white line, and naturally there will be discoloration as I press it
[01:11] <veryhappy> Shrap: is there anyone who could possibly use your frequency?
[01:11] <Ari-Yang> line is still there
[01:11] <Shrap> as in wifi channel?
[01:11] <veryhappy> Shrap: yes.
[01:11] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, that's too bad. next step is disassembly.
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> not sure what I'd do if I disassemble it
[01:12] <Shrap> considereing there are about... 5-6 other devices on the network, probably
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> or what I am suppose to do
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> Ari-Yang:  :) check cables for loosness/unplug/plug them back in.. or just deal with the line...
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> well, at least the white line isn't noticeable, I could live with it
[01:12] <Kb8wlu> dr willis i plugged the win7 ssd sata drive into motherboard but it booted staight to ubuntu i need the commands for grub to give me an option
[01:12] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, put it back together again. The point would be to ensure that display related connectors are seated firmly.
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> yeah
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> paul:  you will need to boot to ubuntu with the hd pluged in and do a 'sudo update-grub' and it should add windows to the grub menu.
[01:12] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, you could also buy another cable for the screen and test it while it's apart.
[01:13] <utfans05> !grub
[01:13] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  'sudo update-grub'
[01:13] <Shrap> veryhappy, is there a log i can look at that shows the wireless connection process?  only place i know to look is /var/log
[01:13] <Kb8wlu> thanks
[01:13] <veryhappy> Shrap: you might have the same channel as a few other ones
[01:13] <Kb8wlu> doing that now
[01:13] <Seven_Six_Two> Ari-Yang, do you have any friends who are slightly nerdier than you? They might be able to do it for you.
[01:13] <Shrap> also it's a broadcom chipset
[01:13] <carfxr> One last request, I am having a problem with 13.04 when I connect an external monitor the system will hang with no action, only has Mouse movement. I then have to use the power button to reboot the system and if I only use the built in monitor all is okay. Anybody have any ideas ?
[01:13] <veryhappy> Shrap: what does iwconfig say there has to be some more informations about your network state over wifi
[01:14] <yesman> is it easy to install ubuntu when I use ati radeon card?
[01:14] <Ari-Yang> @ Seven_Six_Two lol not really, it isn't a big deal though.
[01:14] <yesman> can it work out of box?
[01:14] <krux> yesman!
[01:14] <Shrap> mode : managed, AP: not assoc, retry long limit : 7, RTS thr: off, frag thr: off
[01:14] <krux> :)
[01:15] <l_r> i d like to know if there is  a  place for making non-ubuntu repos avaiable to the public
[01:15] <veryhappy> Shrap: please use next time a pastebin (pastebin.org) site in order not to get kicked you know, due to spamming
[01:15] <Shrap> whoops, sorry
[01:15] <l_r> suppose you have your repos and want people know about that
[01:15] <Seven_Six_Two> l_r, launchpad
[01:15] <veryhappy> Shrap: the informations don't say me something
[01:15] <brent_arnold> Can someone please recommend either 12 or 13 for best ultrabook support?
[01:15] <Seven_Six_Two> l_r, or github
[01:15] <brent_arnold> Specifically the Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13
[01:15] <l_r> Seven_Six_Two, is it good for what i said?
[01:15] <Kb8wlu> paul@paul-System-Product-Name:~$ sudo update-grub
[01:15] <Kb8wlu> [sudo] password for paul:
[01:15] <Kb8wlu> ]Sorry, try again.
[01:15] <Kb8wlu> [sudo] password for paul:
[01:15] <Kb8wlu> Sorry, try again.
[01:16] <Kb8wlu> [sudo] password for paul:
[01:16] <FloodBot1> Kb8wlu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <Kb8wlu> Generating grub.cfg ...
[01:16] <l_r> Seven_Six_Two,  i am taling about repos with debs
[01:16] <Bigsista> l_r opensuse build service
[01:16] <Seven_Six_Two> l_r, yes, you can have a ppa on launchpad
[01:16] <veryhappy> Shrap: what could we possibly do, over which computer are you connected right now?
[01:16] <Kb8wlu> It says it done in terminal
[01:16] <l_r> Bigsista, but opensuse isnt for suse?
[01:16] <Shrap> i'm on my Win8 desktop
[01:16] <brent_arnold> Do you guys recommend version 12 or 13 for ultrabook support?
[01:17] <Bigsista> l_r: they also have centos and ubuntu repos there
[01:17] <Kb8wlu> should i reboot and see if it gives a me a dual boot option?
[01:17] <Seven_Six_Two> brent_arnold, probably 12.04
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> brent_arnold, it's up to you
[01:17] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  your grub menu should now be updated....
[01:17] <veryhappy> ok, well there are way too less information as i could help you right now. of course we first have to find out why it doesn't work.
[01:17] <l_r> Bigsista, oh nice...do you have a specific link?
[01:17] <Kb8wlu> ok let me reboot and try it dr willis
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> brent_arnold, 12.04 is long time support, 12.10 has updates and what not, 13.04 is well...  new
[01:17] <brent_arnold> Right.
[01:17] <veryhappy> Shrap: what program are you using to connect your computer/notebook to the wifi network?
[01:17] <Shrap> veryhappy, of course..a verbose connection log would be amazing, woudlnt it lol
[01:17] <veryhappy> Shrap: indeed.
[01:18] <brent_arnold> So, what decides if a build is going to be long term supported?
[01:18] <Shrap> veryhappy, whatever the gui calls.  im not doing it via cli
[01:18] <Seven_Six_Two> l_r !ppa
[01:18] <Shrap> veryhappy, sorry, v12.04
[01:18] <veryhappy> ubuntu 12.04 then
[01:18] <darthanubis> brent_arnold, 13.04,13.04,14.04 etc see the pattern?
[01:18] <veryhappy> got you
[01:18] <Seven_Six_Two> !ppa l_r
[01:18] <l_r> :D
[01:18] <veryhappy> Shrap: kde or gnome or something else?
[01:18] <l_r> it does not work
[01:19] <johnjohn1011> i was having really slow internet access and installed WICD on 12.04.  What is the problem with network manager?
[01:19] <Ari-Yang> darthanubis, you said 13.04 twice :b
[01:19] <Seven_Six_Two> ubottu, !ppa
[01:19] <brent_arnold> darthanubis, yes, I see the pattern, however what actually decides that 12.04 was going to be long term supported and the build after it isn't
[01:19] <Shrap> veryhappy, stock, so...
[01:19] <brent_arnold> Or has the build just not been out enough to decide if it's going to be long term supported
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_> johnjohn1011:  ive neer heard of wicd being faster or slower then network manager.. both are front ends to the various network config cli tools as far as i know
[01:19] <Bigsista> l_r: https://build.opensuse.org/ or https://launchpad.net/
[01:19] <Shrap> veryhappy, definitely not KDE, just looks like gnome with some extra shiny bits
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_> johnjohn1011:  unless its using a differnt dns server, or some setting.
[01:20] <darthanubis> brent_arnold, thought you saw the pattern. The next release after 12.04 was 12.10. Not 13.04 another LTR.
[01:20] <johnjohn1011> dr_willis_:  I will check that.  the speed different is amazing
[01:20] <darthanubis> really simple
[01:20] <veryhappy> Shrap: ok, got you. so it doesn't do anything when you try to connect?
[01:20] <Dr_Willis_> brent_arnold:  LTS's are only released every so often.. 2 yrs.. i recall..
[01:20] <brent_arnold> Okay thanks
[01:20] <Dr_Willis_> !lts
[01:20] <seronis> darthanubis,   13.04 isnt lts
[01:20] <seronis> lts is every 2 years
[01:21] <Dr_Willis_> 14.04 will be the next LTS release
[01:21] <darthanubis> really?
[01:21] <Shrap> veryhappy, the little wireless icon in the top right flashes repeatedly like it's starting the connection process.  if i let it go for long enough it interrupts all wireless traffic on the network
[01:21] <Seven_Six_Two> that's why I said 12.04
[01:21] <darthanubis> when did that paradigm change?
[01:21] <seronis> 10.04 was the previous lts
[01:21] <Dr_Willis_> been every 2 years for the last few years as far as i know..
[01:21] <veryhappy> Shrap: do you know the ip range of the network?
[01:21] <Ari-Yang> brent_arnold, if you don't care about LTS, and this laptop is just to have ubuntu on it, put 12.10 on it
[01:21] <Dr_Willis_> 10.04, 12.04 , 14.04
[01:21] <seronis> ^
[01:21] <Shrap> veryhappy, i do indeed, it's my home network which i control
[01:21] <Ari-Yang> but ifyou're going to be updating, and care about lts, go with 12.04
[01:22] <brent_arnold> It's going to be a dual boot W8/Ubuntu
[01:22] <Ari-Yang> oh
[01:22] <darthanubis> Dr_Willis_, that shows how long I've been using Ubuntu
[01:22] <brent_arnold> I tried Fedora 18 but never could find any Wifi support or driver for it
[01:22] <Ari-Yang> @ brent_arnold then maybe 12.10, will you care about updating ubuntu version?
[01:22] <Seven_Six_Two> brent_arnold, it's brand new? You could try 13.04
[01:22] <Dr_Willis_> for very new hardware. you might want to use the latest release of ubuntu..  the 12.04 release might not work as well as it could on 'very new' hardware
[01:22] <veryhappy> Shrap: very good. let's say perhaps he wants to connect but there's no running dhcp server then you'd have to set your ip address manually and see if there's any success to get in, got me?
[01:22] <Ari-Yang> @ brent_arnold 13.04 I think is a bit buggy
[01:22] <Ari-Yang> I say go for 12.10
[01:22] <darthanubis> Dr_Willis_, I remember you from when I started asking questions here. You were helpful then and now. Nice to see you still at it. hat off to you.
[01:22] <Dr_Willis_> every release is a bit buggy when it first comes out...
[01:23] <Shrap> veryhappy, right, i could set a static ip, but there is a dhcp server, unless it's not requesting an IP properly
[01:23] <Ari-Yang> exactly
[01:23] <brent_arnold> I did a 13.04, specifically kernels 3.6, 3.8, and 3.10, and none of them had wifi support for my hardware
[01:23] <Ari-Yang> and brent_arnold may not want to deal with bugs
[01:23] <veryhappy> guys, why not 12.04 it's a lts version
[01:23]  * Ari-Yang shrugs
[01:23] <brent_arnold> So I'm sure there's going to be a driver search for it all.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis_> ive had very few issues with 13.04
[01:23] <brent_arnold> What I mean is, I did live iso's of them each, and none of them had the native support for it
[01:23] <veryhappy> Shrap: first try to connect, then we have a much better chance to find out what's going on
[01:23] <Ari-Yang> brent_arnold, I installed 12.10 while being hooked up to ethernet, so it d/led the wifi drivers for me
[01:24] <brent_arnold> Ari-Yang: the Yoga 13 has no hardwire Ethernet.
[01:24] <Bigsista> brent_arnold: what model is it?
[01:24] <Shrap> veryhappy, you mean with static ip?
[01:24] <Ari-Yang> o
[01:24] <veryhappy> Shrap: yes.
[01:24] <Ari-Yang> well I was able to find the wifi driver easily for 12.04
[01:24] <brent_arnold> Bigsista: It is a Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13
[01:24] <Ari-Yang> and it's probably easy to find the wifi driver for 12.10, and probably 13.04 too
[01:24] <Dr_Willis_> for wifi. i find it worth while to find a cheap usb wifi dongle that works out of the box. :) that way if i install to a laptop that needs other wifi drivers. I plug in that  dongle. and then grab the drivers for the other wifi card.
[01:24] <Shrap> veryhappy, i wont lie, i forget how to do that.  also it looks as though it may be trying to force ipv6 on this interface
[01:24] <Dr_Willis_> easier then running a wire. ;P
[01:24] <l_r> Bigsista, basically i could also use opensuse.build for building my debs locally, that's nice
[01:24] <brent_arnold> Yeah that's probably true, I will try these things.
[01:24] <brent_arnold> Thankyou all, will be back.
[01:25] <veryhappy> Shrap: that might be another problem you know how ipv6 is built up in difference to ipv4 and the router might not support that.
[01:25] <brent_arnold> One last question, and I know this is one of complete preference, but...
[01:25] <brent_arnold> With a tablet what flavor would you guys recommend?
[01:25] <Shrap> veryhappy, correct, 2 separate stacks.
[01:25] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: What kind of tablet is it?
[01:26] <darthanubis> brent_arnold, Jelly bean
[01:26] <brent_arnold> It's an ultrabook, a Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13
[01:26] <Shrap> veryhappy, so how do i set a static ipv4 on, in my case, eth2
[01:26] <brent_arnold> Never even heard of JB
[01:26] <linux_> hey hey
[01:26] <Seven_Six_Two> Shrap, make an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:26] <Ari-Yang> @ brent_arnold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Android_4.2_Jelly_Bean_.28API_level_17.29
[01:27] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: Remind me what kind of touch screen IdeaPad has.
[01:27] <veryhappy> Seven_Six_Two: thanks buddy for helping me out
[01:27] <llakey> I'm running Ubuntu Server 12.10 on EC2. When I run the command "hostname -f" I get a result which includes the search domain us-west-1.compute.internal. I see this value in /etc/resolv.conf. I want to remove this value. I don't see this value anywhere in /etc/network/interfaces. Where is this coming from and how do I remove it?
[01:27] <Shrap> veryhappy, what would this entry look like
[01:27] <brent_arnold> It's just a 13" IPS touch screen, I'm uneducated on the specific products past that
[01:27] <veryhappy> Shrap: hold on
[01:27] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: You might wish to try Kubuntu Active.
[01:27] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: Does it have a special pen?
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: Or do you use your finger?
[01:28] <brent_arnold> Finger
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Kubuntu Active.
[01:28] <veryhappy> Shrap: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[01:28] <brent_arnold> I also use my... finger.
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: Kubuntu Active now, or Ubuntu 14.04 when it comes out.
[01:28] <Seven_Six_Two> llakey, that's probably from your pppoe dialer
[01:28] <brent_arnold> Sweet, thanks.
[01:28] <Seven_Six_Two> llakey, or from your dhcp request
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: Both will be touch-oriented.
[01:28] <veryhappy> Shrap: 1st Section
[01:29] <Bigsista> brent_arnold: this thread might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1911972&page=8
[01:29] <brent_arnold> kubuntu 12 or 13?
[01:29] <Shrap> veryhappy, ok i'll give it a shot, one sec
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: Kubuntu ACTIVE 13.04 should be stable. It uses Plasma Active, but it's Kubuntu nonetheless
[01:29] <BrianMc-linux> I'd like to ask a question if I may
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | BrianMc-linux
[01:30] <goddard> BrianMc-linux: you may
[01:30] <brent_arnold> Thanks thanks, nice find Bigsista
[01:30] <llakey> Seven_Six_Two: thanks. ok. so my dhcp request could be returning a search domain. that makes sense. can i remove it somehow other than removing it from resolv.conf? my understanding is that on Ubuntu it's improper to edit resolv.conf
[01:30] <BrianMc-linux> im running the linux-lite 1.06 and using a radeon hd 6570
[01:31] <Shrap> veryhappy, no luck, still has the same behavior
[01:31] <BrianMc-linux> I can install the driver with no problem, but its installed and I relog my monitor displays " input not available"
[01:32] <brent_arnold> For some reason I can only find kubuntu active in i386
[01:32] <BrianMc-linux> for my radeon. I should have said that
[01:32] <megamanx1978> I am having issues with smc and spiral knights can someone help me get those games working?
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: There isn't a 64-bit version that I know of.
[01:32] <veryhappy> Shrap: try iwlist scan eth2
[01:32] <Shrap> veryhappy, so, another issue.  since i slipped into my cisco IOS habits, after saving the /etc/network/interfaces modifications i did ifconfig eth2 down and then up
[01:33] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: But it should work fine regardless...
[01:33] <brent_arnold> Awww...
[01:33] <Shrap> veryhappy, and now the iface doesnt show up on ifconfig
[01:33] <veryhappy> Shrap: sorry, it's supposed to be iwlist scan
[01:33] <SonikkuAmerica> brent_arnold: You might ask about it in #kubuntu
[01:33] <veryhappy> Shrap: then you should get some informations about the networks
[01:34] <Shrap> veryhappy, nevermind, it's showing in iwconfig
[01:34] <veryhappy> Shrap: ok.
[01:34] <veryhappy> Shrap: do you have only wireless network connected right now?
[01:34] <Seven_Six_Two> llakey, I believe that you should look in to modifying the dhclient.conf
[01:35] <Shrap> veryhappy, my desktop is also connected through wireless so i cant really bombard the network with bad traffic, otehrwise i wont be able to troubleshoot with you
[01:35] <l_r> Seven_Six_Two, ppa 's seem to start from sources
[01:35] <Kb8wlu> wow somthing weird is happening on dual boot
[01:35] <veryhappy> Shrap: no that's not what you shall do.
[01:35] <megamanx1978> Secret maryo chronicles wont start
[01:35] <l_r> Seven_Six_Two, i already have my debs built , no sources can be made avaiable
[01:35] <veryhappy> Shrap: can you try a dhcp request on there?
[01:36] <Shrap> veryhappy, on where
[01:36] <Kb8wlu> dr willis
[01:36] <l_r> Seven_Six_Two, is ppa still good?
[01:36] <llakey> Seven_Six_Two: thanks. i'll check it out
[01:36] <veryhappy> Shrap: go into a terminal and type sudo dhclient
[01:37] <Kb8wlu> how do i uninstall ubuntu 13.04?
[01:37] <megamanx1978> And I think I may be missing some java packages for spiral knights but I am not sure which ones
[01:37] <Shrap> veryhappy, ok now what? im not sure what sending a dhcp request will do if i'm not on the network
[01:37] <veryhappy> Kb8wlu: you have to install another operating system
[01:38] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  perhaps you should be giving us details as to the problem and try to fix the problem?
[01:38] <veryhappy> Shrap: well, it could have been that the system doesn't connect completely but it's already in the network and so you just don't get an information about the connection
[01:38] <Kb8wlu> verry happy  i have win7 installed on second hard drive but somthing crazy
[01:39] <Shrap> veryhappy, no, i disconnect from the network when it fails to connect, otherwise my whole network goes down.
[01:39] <veryhappy> Kb8wlu: you can't easily remove another operating system, what are you planning to do?
[01:39] <Dr_Willis_> since linux is on a seperate hd.. you just repartion/reformat that hd...
[01:39] <Kb8wlu> it comes up grub with two windows 7 grub files and when i click on them it wont go to windows 7
[01:39] <veryhappy> Shrap: got you.
[01:39] <exad> ubuntu just crashed on me :(
[01:39] <Seven_Six_Two> l_r, sorry, not sure but I think you might need sources for ppa
[01:39] <Kb8wlu> wonder if i have to install windo 7 agagin
[01:39] <veryhappy> Kb8wlu: then you have to correct your grub.conf in linux
[01:39] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  - You CAN use the bios features to boot the windows hd directly if you wanted to
[01:40] <l_r> :(
[01:40] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  thats sort of a good reason to keep things on 2 seperate hds
[01:40] <Dr_Willis_> the linuix install should not have TOUCHED the windows install at all
[01:40] <Kb8wlu> Yes i can but rather use grub how do i edit grub boot
[01:40] <Dr_Willis_> !fixgrub | Kb8wlu
[01:41] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  if reinstalling grub.. be sure it installs to your linux hd. 'sda' in your case
[01:41] <Bluewolf1257> Yo doctor, I'm back again for more Broadcam trouble
[01:41] <Dr_Willis_> I just use my pcs bios features most of the time..  i have several hds
[01:41] <Kb8wlu> willis how do i do that?
[01:41] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  do what....
[01:42] <Kb8wlu> how do i clear the grub file and then update grub agagin
[01:42] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  read the url the bot gave for restoreing grub..
[01:42] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  the boot-repair tool is very handy
[01:42] <Kb8wlu> ok thanks
[01:42] <icedwater> Hi, how do I get gnome-screensaver to lock the screen properly in 12.04.2?
[01:42] <BrianMc-linux> !ask I'm running Linux-Lite 1.06, After I install driver for radeon 6570, reboot, then my monitor cant display anything
[01:42]  * Dr_Willis_ wonders why everyone ignores the bot..
[01:43] <BrianMc-linux> I didnt ignore, I gave it a hug. lol
[01:43] <Kb8wlu> thanks for all yoru help willis
[01:44] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  or just start using ubuntu for a week or 2 and then learn how to mess with grub.. you may find yourself rarely using windows...
[01:44] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis_: perhaps because the bot should write a private message to the guest in order to be noticeable
[01:44] <yofun> can anyone tell me whats wrong here? http://pastebin.com/nH9FNysL
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> !cookie > veryhappy
[01:44] <yesman> I
[01:44] <yesman> want
[01:44] <Dr_Willis_> veryhappy:  i find that gets ignreoed also.. ;) or they go 'what private message?' :P
[01:44] <yesman> pizza P
[01:44] <Kb8wlu> thats true willis
[01:45] <Shrap> veryhappy, any ideas? i'm still stuck
[01:45] <veryhappy> wilee-nilee: thank you
[01:45]  * Dr_Willis_ goes back to trying to figure out how these other guys manage to reencode cartoons to be so small in filesize.. with the same codec/settings...
[01:45] <Kb8wlu> Or just buy me a 200 laptop and just install ubunto on that and leavemy desktop with just windows
[01:45] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  ive ran ubuntu from a 8gb usb flash drive befor..
[01:45] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis_: could be, but more noticeable how i find
[01:46] <Kb8wlu> Nice willis
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> veryhappy, heh,
[01:46] <Bluewolf1257> Dr_Willis_ Fun times haha
[01:46] <veryhappy> Shrap: i'm sorry. i just don't know why you don't get in.
[01:46] <Kb8wlu> its to difficult to run both on a single desktop
[01:46] <veryhappy> Kb8wlu: you should get yourself a display manager
[01:46] <Dr_Willis_> my desktop has a F8  (or F9) i hit when it boots up. thats lets me pick the os.. or i use grub.. its not difficlult Kb8wlu
[01:46] <Bluewolf1257> Or laptop. I have to use windows to trouble shoot till my wifi works... and the reason I need my wifi to work is to get wifi...
[01:47] <BrianMc-linux> I'm running Linux-Lite 1.06, After I install driver for radeon 6570, reboot, then my monitor cant display anything
[01:47] <veryhappy> Bluewolf1257: what do you have for a problem with your wifi?
[01:47] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  and its been suggested several times that you can try out ubuntu in virtualbox.
[01:47] <Kb8wlu> is it normal to have downloads 28min to download boot  repair  iso
[01:47] <Bluewolf1257> Typical broadcam driver, but being a newbie, I only have a general understanding.
[01:47] <Bluewolf1257> I've managed to get it down to 8 error lines instead of 64 haha
[01:48] <Bluewolf1257> @Kb8wlu Yeah
[01:48] <utfans05> Kb8wlu: try grabbing it from a different site. the website may be under a heavy load right now
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Bluewolf1257: Wait a second... your Broadcom doesn't work with b43 or b43-lpphy?
[01:48] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  what are you downloading exactly?
[01:48] <Kb8wlu> 500kbs
[01:49] <Kb8wlu> im downloading boot repair disk .iso
[01:49] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  you dont need the ISO. you can Install boot-repair on your ubuntu install.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  that iso file is HANDY to have however.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis_> it can make a nice repair boot cd
[01:49] <Kb8wlu> ok willis how do i do that?
[01:49] <Bluewolf1257> SonikkuAmerica wut?
[01:50] <Kb8wlu> You mean thru the terminal
[01:50] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, i'm also having broadcom issues
[01:50] <veryhappy> SonikkuAmerica: he's just a beginner :D
[01:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Bluewolf1257, Shrap: Both of you do [ lspci ] in an Ubuntu terminal.
[01:50] <SonikkuAmerica> (If you can)
[01:50] <Shrap> lspci -k returns my wifi adapter using wl
[01:50] <Dr_Willis_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5662780/
[01:50] <Dr_Willis_> oops
[01:50] <veryhappy> Shrap: SonikkuAmerica Bluewolf1257 i don't know how to help, thanks if you can help them out, i'm lost
[01:51] <dank101> i divided by 0
[01:51] <Kb8wlu> willis in ubuntu its showing me my windows 7 hard drive  with 512 is that normal
[01:51] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, driver in use: wl
[01:51] <SonikkuAmerica> veryhappy: I can; I've run into this issue before.
[01:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: Is wl not working?
[01:51] <veryhappy> SonikkuAmerica: thank you
[01:51] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/boot-repair
[01:51] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  windows may have a recovery hd partion, and a normal partion for the actual os.
[01:52] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  you may need to try all the partions to figure out what one you need to boot with grub
[01:52] <Bluewulf1257> Sorry guys, it crashed
[01:52] <Kb8wlu> and when i was in win7 its shows a e: drive
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Bluewulf1257: What did?
[01:52] <Bluewulf1257> What was said while I was gone (my client)
[01:52] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, well im not sure what veryhappy had me do earlier but im a little worse off now.  cant manage my wifi through the gui.  but the issue is when i try to connect to my network, it fails to connect and keeps retrying, somehow flooding the network and essentially DoS'ing my network
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Bluewulf1257: In Ubuntu, run [ lspci ] in a terminal.
[01:52] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  no idea what you mean about the e: drive
[01:52] <Bluewulf1257> SonikkuAmerica, I'm having trouble with certain files needed for broadcam being missing
[01:52] <Dr_Willis_> if your windows install was on an e: drive.. that is.. weird...
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Bluewulf1257: Do you have another machine?
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Bluewulf1257: If not, I'll just direct you to the Web page.
[01:53] <Bluewulf1257> Sonikku, I can't at the moment. :/ I'm on windows doing essential work
[01:53] <veryhappy> Shrap: sorry for confusing you earlier
[01:53] <Dr_Willis_> your whold setup was a little odd Kb8wlu  - your windows install was on sdb. normally its on sda.    i would guess you swapped hds around somehow in the past.
[01:53] <Shrap> veryhappy, no worries mate, im just not sure what i broke hehe
[01:53] <Kb8wlu> Is it possible that when i tried to install yesterday that i have may installed a linux  partition on my win7 hard drive by mistake and that why i am having boot problems
[01:53] <Bluewulf1257> SonikkuAmerica I can't at the moment
[01:54] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  you rscreen shot earlier showed no linux partions
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap, Bluewulf1257: You both should check this page: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[01:54] <Kb8wlu> YES WILLIS should i format my win 7 har drive and rest it back up with boot grub update
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: Get the firmware-b43-installer package, then run [ sudo modprobe -r wl ] and [ sudo modprobe b43 ]
[01:55] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  i dont see why you think you need to do that...
[01:55] <Shrap> alright
[01:55] <Kb8wlu> How do i show that boot partition screen again
[01:55] <Shrap> just toss it on a thumbdrive and do the standard dpkg -i?
[01:55] <Bluewulf1257> SonikkuAmerica I'll have to do that later, I'm a bit busy. Ugh, parents.
[01:55] <Shrap> then modprobe etc
[01:55] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  use gparted to examine your hard drive layouts. or use 'sudo parted -l' i think
[01:55] <Bluewulf1257> Sorry, I need the help, but don't have the time
[01:56] <Kb8wlu> do i have to install gparted on my ubuntu
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: First, I need the output of [ lspci -vnn -d 14e4: ]
[01:56] <veryhappy> Bluewulf1257: then note yourself what SonikkuAmerica told you and try it later.
[01:56] <Dr_Willis_> Kb8wlu:  if its not installed... yes
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Kb8wlu: GParted is on the live media.
[01:56] <Kb8wlu> ok got it
[01:57] <veryhappy> guys perhaps you can help me with another issue, last time i tried installing ubuntu on the harddrive on my other pc it failed writing the mbr to /dev/sda, is there any tool for checking the mbr sector of my harddrive?
[01:57] <Kb8wlu> so like i have to type gparted in a terminal window to bring it up
[01:57] <yofun> can anyone tell me whats wrong here? http://pastebin.com/nH9FNysL
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Kb8wlu: Or you can search the Unity dash for it (press the Windows key and type "gparted" (without the quotes))
[01:59] <sayd> any good upstart tutorials out there? i don't know init stuff either :/
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> yofun: Why cmake and not GNU make?
[01:59] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, http://i.imgur.com/qsGrl45.png
[01:59] <yofun> idk
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  are you on your live cd? or installed ubuntu system right now>?
[02:00] <veryhappy> sayd: could that possibly be what you searched for? http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: Nope, b43 won't work for you (14e4:4727)
[02:00] <Kb8wlu> this is strange in gparted need to look at this
[02:00] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, do you feel like troubleshooting this very much?  if not i can just reinstall, this is a fresh system.  i installed linux, installed steam, did a apt-get dist upgrade and then it broke
[02:00] <veryhappy> sayd: next time try searching the internet for yourself, you might get better in it
[02:00] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, yeah i was under the impression that STA was my only otpion
[02:01] <sayd> sure veryhappy ty
[02:01] <Kb8wlu> how do i bring up that ubin
[02:01] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, i was about to start building a little python ide but its kinda useless without internet lol
[02:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: Well, it is getting late... but you might try Googling around
[02:01] <Kb8wlu> willis i need help
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: lol
[02:02] <sayd> veryhappy i didnt know about upstart so i installed xinetd, are they related?
[02:02] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, i've been googling for a couple days, the only solution i find is "install sta drivers" lol
[02:02] <Shrap> screw it' i'll learn later, time to nuke it from orbit
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: You might try bcrmsmac though: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211
[02:03] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, it's strange because sta WAS working until i did a dist upgrade
[02:03] <veryhappy> sayd: xinetd is a server that isn't related at all to upstart that is used for your runlevel
[02:05] <veryhappy> !upstart
[02:05] <veryhappy> !xinetd
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: It could be it got dropped from the kernel... I dunno
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !info xinetd
[02:05] <Shrap> SonikkuAmerica, yeah...either way its getting nuked and im starting over.  i dont feel like having a paperweight for any longer
[02:05] <Dr_willis> wonder if upstart is going to get replaced in the next release.. or if they are going to push that  back again..
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: lol
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Shrap: Oh well, I tried...
[02:06] <Shrap> baffling
[02:06] <Shrap> i booted from my liveUSB
[02:06] <Shrap> wifi connects right up
[02:06] <Dr_willis> Shrap,  try booting with an older kernel.
[02:06] <Shrap> thats exactly what i just did, i believe
[02:06] <veryhappy> Shrap: what version exactly?
[02:06] <veryhappy> uname -a
[02:06] <Shrap> little late for that
[02:06] <Shrap> im reinstalling
[02:06] <Dr_willis> try all the old kernels on your installed system. ;) if one of them actuall did work.
[02:07] <Dr_willis> so.. if you reinstall.. and install the broken kernel again.. it will still be broken
[02:07] <Shrap> no
[02:07] <Shrap> i mean
[02:07] <Shrap> when i originally installed, it worked fine
[02:07] <Shrap> it only broke after dist upgrade
[02:07] <Dr_willis> yes.. the original install was using an older kernel.. that would have still been installed..   and selectable from the grub menus
[02:07] <Dr_willis> along with all the other kernels you had installed in the past.
[02:08] <Shrap> hmm
[02:08] <Dr_willis> a dist-upgrade will pull in the latest kernel which is often 'held back'
[02:08] <Dr_willis> so even with your new install.. it still might try to upgrade the kernel.. to the latest, which you claim broke things
[02:09] <veryhappy> Dr_willis: let's assume i don't want to go to 12.10 because i want to stay on 12.04 LTS would dist-upgrade pull my system to 12.10 or not?
[02:09] <Shrap> now it's doing the same thing in the installer
[02:09] <Shrap> possibly a hardware issue at this point, failing chipset or something
[02:09] <veryhappy> Shrap: IT? WHAT?
[02:10] <Dr_willis> a dist-upgrade does NOT upgrade to the latest release  veryhappy  - its just a more intensive upgrade of the current release
[02:10] <Shrap> the wireless.
[02:10] <veryhappy> Shrap: there we go, and what does it do?/
[02:10] <Shrap> veryhappy, you and i have been over this.
[02:10] <veryhappy> Dr_willis: thanks for the info
[02:10] <veryhappy> Shrap: that one, ok
[02:10] <Shrap> indeed
[02:10] <veryhappy> Shrap: just wanted to know what exactly
[02:11] <Shrap> veryhappy, ah ok :)
[02:11] <veryhappy> Shrap: well it might be a corrupt implementation?!
[02:12] <Shrap> but it worked BEFORE, for like 2-3 days, which is the one wrench in the geras
[02:12] <Shrap> gears*
[02:12] <veryhappy> someone get a patch :D fast^^
[02:13] <Shrap> whyyy is there no verbose log for this
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Shrap,  and the live cd used to work also correct?
[02:13] <Shrap> correct
[02:13] <Shrap> i was downloading updates inline with the install the first time around
[02:13] <Dr_willis> but its not working now... and the live cd hasent changed...
[02:13] <Shrap> correct
[02:13] <Shrap> the liveusb has been sitting on my shelf untouched since last week when i first installed it
[02:14] <madprops> if anybody wants to try this http://chayotico.com/media/html/script.html
[02:14] <Dr_willis> so that points to either a hardware issue.. or some other  very very weird bug..
[02:14] <arcripex> guys help
[02:14] <Dr_willis> madprops,  dont spam here please.
[02:14] <madprops> ugh
[02:14] <Shrap> right
[02:14] <Dr_willis> ;)
[02:14] <Shrap> it's entirely possible that it's a hardware issue...this thing's about 3 years old now and it went to iraq with me
[02:15] <Shrap> aaaaand i used to smoke inside with it on my lap.  im surprised it's not totally ruined yet.
[02:15] <sayd> veryhappy im trying to do this but with upstart. any idea? http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon
[02:16] <veryhappy> sayd: i don't have a big clue about upstart, sorry. you'll have to find someone else
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Shrap,  proberly has those huge camel spiders inside it... i ve seen pics on reddit.. ;P
[02:16] <_thufir_> thufir: how do you know that SANE is installed and configured correctly?  the Samsung unified driver doesn't see it:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/294965/
[02:16] <Dr_willis> sayd,  i tend to just ssh in, and run znc when i need it. or start it from rc.local
[02:16] <_thufir_> how do you know that SANE is installed and configured correctly?  the Samsung unified driver doesn't see it:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/294965/
[02:16] <Shrap> Dr_willis, i've seen them in real life.  they're not very nice lol, but the ones on reddit are unusually large specimens
[02:17] <Shrap> they were usually about the size of my palm, so like a CD
[02:17] <Dr_willis> taste like chicken..
[02:17] <Kb8wlu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5663183/
[02:17] <Kb8wlu> how do i correct this
[02:18] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  assume people on irc have the attention span of a goldfish... :) give some details
[02:18] <ViVXone> how do i connect to php?
[02:18] <Kb8wlu> dr willis check this out
[02:18] <Kb8wlu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5663183/
[02:18] <sayd> Dr_willis ok.. was just trying to get my head around it but looks like thats not gonna happen
[02:18] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,
[02:18] <Dr_willis>  => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda... so.. install a bootloader onto sda
[02:18] <Kb8wlu> How do i do that sir?
[02:19] <sayd> i still see "upgrade is available" even though im already on 13.04
[02:19] <Subhadip> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 12.04. The version of Unity installed on my computer is 5.18 although I can see the latest version for 5.0 series, 5.20 (SRU 4) has already been released one month ago. Anyone has any idea why I haven't received that update yet?
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  the boot-repair tool handles it for me..  when ive needed to do so..  seems like its using EFI from later in that file.. I dont have any systems that use EFI. so  thats about the extent of my grub-skills
[02:20] <Shrap> Dr_willis, gonna go totally into left field here and go with a totally different distro, see if that does anything.  more to satisfy my curiosity than any actual working theory.
[02:20] <Kb8wlu> Ouch!!!
[02:20] <icedwater> sayd: upgrade of a package or the entire distribution?
[02:20] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  you said the system was booting into your ubuntu installed system however?
[02:20] <Kb8wlu> Yes willis
[02:20] <Guest8542> Hi everyone, I've just done an ubuntu minimal install and every thing has gone perfectly except sound. It seems my nvidia cards hdmi audio is taking priority over my usb headset.
[02:20] <Guest8542> How could I find out what module the nvidia card uses to block it?
[02:20] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  so remind us of the actual problem then?
[02:21] <sayd> icedwater it says New release '13.04' available
[02:21] <veryhappy> Guest8542: try lspci first then you know what's built in your computer/notebook
[02:21] <icedwater> Oh, that's odd.
[02:21] <Kb8wlu> let me restart my system and then get the problem screen shot
[02:22] <Guest8542> veryhappy: It's definitely nvidia card
[02:23] <Guest8542> aplay -l
[02:24] <Guest8542> veryhappy: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[02:24] <veryhappy> Guest8542: so you want to block the card. you could first find out what library is used and set it in the configuration for modprobe as blacklisted. the other possiblity would be to look for asound.state and try to fix the problem (might be s/pdif that's disturbing)
[02:24] <Guest8542> veryhappy: Yes that's what I was trying to ask, how could I find out what library it uses? I found the appropriate file to blacklist it
[02:24] <veryhappy> Guest8542: if you want to paste something use pastebin.
[02:25] <Guest8542> veryhappy: Sorry I figured one line would be alright
[02:25] <veryhappy> Guest8542: sudo lsmod
[02:25] <Guest8542> veryhappy: I tried to lsmod | grep snd but I have a whole slew of entries
[02:25] <veryhappy> and then look for snd
[02:25] <veryhappy> try grep hdmi
[02:25] <icedwater> I don't get anything and I'm on 12.04.2, for what it's worth. There might be a switch to turn that prompt off.
[02:26] <Guest8542> veryhappy: Hm one moment
[02:27] <xavier23> Hi guys. Is it possible to use null mailer on ubuntu without an external MTA?
[02:27] <veryhappy> guys i need a tool to check my harddrive sector for the master boot record.
[02:28] <veryhappy> xavier23: actually i think no, because it receives and sends the emails for you, right?
[02:28] <yofun> can anyone tell me whats wrong here? http://pastebin.com/nH9FNysL
[02:29] <Kb8wlu> Ok i get grub bootup and it says Ubuntu option advance options for ubuntu  and windows 7 loader on /dev/sdb1 and windows 7 loader on /dev/sdb2 wich non of them boot to windows 7 and still botts to ubuntu
[02:30] <xavier23> veryhappy: well, i am running a ubuntu server…. i just need a daemon to deliver mail for me , but i don't have access to an ISP (external) mail server
[02:30] <xavier23> so need to deliver mails myself
[02:30] <xavier23> i'm guessing i can't use null mailer for this
[02:30] <Kb8wlu> willis
[02:31] <icedwater> yofun: trying to learn cmake myself, can't help much there. What was the issue with the compiler though? Seemed it couldn't find c++.
[02:31] <CavalierPrime> use postfix to deliver mail to your email client
[02:31] <veryhappy> xavier23: honestly i just used my logic for this, have no clue about mail server tho, sorry
[02:31] <icedwater> It is usually a symlink to gcc or g++, right?
[02:31] <Bluewolf1257> So this is why my wireshark is  tripping balls...
[02:31] <elkingrey> I'm going to be switching to Ubuntu from Fedora, and I'm curious if anybody here has a good methodology for cleaning out their home folder. Sure, I could bring it all with me to the new distro with clean install, but there's a lot of stuff I don't know what it does. I know I want all my music and bookmarks and stuff brought with me. But how do I find stuff I don't need or want and get rid of it?
[02:32] <Kb8wlu> willis you their buddy
[02:32] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  im in and out all day/night
[02:33] <madprops> elkingrey: well you have to consider all the configuration (.dot) files which have the configuration options for the apps you have used
[02:33] <utfans05> kkerwin: did you get all your issues fixed?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> elkingrey,  move over what you know you want.. then archive the rest. ;)  cleaning out what you know you wont need.. like tmp and configs
[02:33] <xavier23> CavalierPrime: thanks, i was hoping to avoid having to set up postfix……i guess theres no way to avoid it
[02:33] <CavalierPrime> xavier23:   https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-setup-postfix-on-ubuntu-12-04
[02:34] <CavalierPrime> xavier23 i have a server that delivers internal mail, that's the way I do it
[02:34] <Kb8wlu> sorry i getting this on boot ubuntu advance option for ubuntu and windows 7 loader on /dev/sdb1 and windows 7 loader /dev/sdb2 non of them boot to windows 7  and system setup
[02:34] <xavier23> CavalierPrime: Ok, thanks
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  but if you tell the bios to boot the windows hd - does it boot windows correctly?
[02:35] <Kb8wlu> Yes i just have to switch boot devices in bios
[02:35] <Loshki> elkingrey: I take my home folder and rename it to folder.old and start with a new folder. Then, as I discover I need stuff from folder.old, I move it over. (and make a backup before you begin)
[02:35] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  and what does windows do exactly/grub do - when you try booting those 2 grub entries?
[02:36] <Kb8wlu> gives me bunch of startup screens
[02:36] <xiamx> I'm sshed in to my college's lab machine, where I'm not root, but I want to create a "rootless envirment" where i can install mongodb and etc, is this possible?
[02:36] <Dr_willis> whos startup screens? windows? linux? ubuntus?
[02:36] <elkingrey> What I'd like to do is use the backup tool. Then when I have the new install up and running use the backup tool again to put everything into a temporary folder, and then drag over what I need. Is that possible? Or when I use the backup tool to resotre, will it only go to my home folder?
[02:36] <Kb8wlu> linux
[02:36] <Loshki> xavier23: pretty much all the mailers, postfix included, have canned solutions for your situation...
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  so selecting windows.. boots to linux or just goes back to the grub menu?
[02:37] <Kb8wlu> goes back top grub menu
[02:37] <xavier23> Loshki: thanks - i'll take a look
[02:37] <Dr_willis> so basically you need to figure out whats incorrect for your system/grub windows items - that its not booting windows..  thats somthing ive rarely neeed to look into.
[02:38] <Kb8wlu> should i try to repair the grub again?
[02:38] <elkingrey> And another question I have. There used to be a bug with Ubuntu where you couldn't get quality installs, if any, from a SanDisk USB. Has this bug been fixed?
[02:38] <Dr_willis> Kb8wlu,  somting i would try.. would be to power down.. and swap the cables on the 2 hard drives.. making sda become sdb..  then have the bios boot the linux drive that would be sdb.. its Possible  windows is confused by being on sdb
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> elkingrey, You have to remove the firmware.
[02:39] <Kb8wlu> Ok i will do that willis be right back
[02:39] <elkingrey> wilee-nilee: How do I do that?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> elkingrey, From windows if I recall, the web is your answer I believe.
[02:40] <elkingrey> I'm running Fedora already.
[02:40] <sayd> hmm even after upgrading to saucy im still seeing the "new version is available"
[02:40] <elkingrey> wilee-nilee: It's got a Fedora LiveCD installer on it already.
[02:41] <elkingrey> wilee-nilee: So, it's already formatted for installing Fedora anyways. I was able to install Fedora just fine. Do I still need to reformat id?
[02:42] <veryhappy> ok bye guys, see you later
[02:42] <CavalierPrime> kb8wlu:  d/l and try the Boot Repair Live CD, may be an easy fix
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> elkingrey, The firmware is called U3 it has to be removed to get a working usb, I gave mine away. Fedora can be reinstalled if needed.
[02:42] <OerHeks> !info u3-tools
[02:43] <OerHeks> !info u3-tool
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> elkingrey, I am assuming this is the problem, a sandisk cruzer. http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2550/~/removing%2Funinstalling-u3-launchpad-on-a-pc
[02:45] <elkingrey> wilee-nilee: Do those instructions exist for linux?
[02:45] <ViVXone> where do i find password for php irc?
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> elkingrey, I only found when I had one a windows removal.
[02:45] <Loshki> elkingrey: Your backup strategy above sounds fine, and you should be able to restore to a temporary folder. The precise details will depend on what you use for backup.
[02:47] <elkingrey> Loshki: Thanks.
[02:50] <goddard> yo yo yo
[02:51] <Dr_willis> hmm.. arista is not wanting to load a video file i got.. its a mpeg2.. that shouldent be a weird format should it?
[02:52] <A1Recon> any reason that Tab should not autocomplete /link/to/file ??
[02:52] <elkingrey> I'm having difficulty finding the instructions to turn Ubuntu iso into a USB disk image from a Fedora computer.
[02:53] <Dr_willis> elkingrey,  you can dd the iso file straight to usb if you wanted to
[02:54] <Dr_willis> elkingrey,  or use unetbootin, or other tools at the pendrivelinux site
[02:54] <lud_> help?
[02:54] <Loshki> !ask | lud_
[02:54] <lud_> oh
[02:55] <elkingrey> Dr_willis: Can you hook me up with the link to instructions?
[02:55] <lud_> is there any command line utility using which I can google things ? also any nice command line based internet browsers
[02:56] <lud_> !patience | lud_
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[02:57] <lud_> ._.
[02:57] <lud_> MarkKostapoulos: die please
[02:57] <MarkKostapoulos> ok
[02:57] <MarkKostapoulos> how do you want me to die?
[02:58] <lud_> suicide
[02:58] <lud_> hara kiri
[02:58] <MarkKostapoulos> ok
[02:58] <lud_> any stuff you like
[02:58] <MarkKostapoulos> katana it is
[02:58] <Loshki> elkingrey: Easiest might be http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:58] <lud_> MarkKostapoulos: yea
[02:58]  * MarkKostapoulos died
[02:58] <lud_> sarcasm
[02:59] <Dr_willis> elkingrey,  pendrivelinux site has tools.. or just dd the iso file straight to the flash.
[02:59] <Dr_willis> sudo dd if=the.iso  of=/dev/sdX
[03:00] <lud_> oh :3 no one knows anwser to my question sad, know any place where I can find anwser to it?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> theres cli browsers if thats what you are asking about
[03:00] <lud_> yea
[03:01] <Dr_willis> they are in the default repos.. links, w3m i recall..
[03:01] <lud_> I need cli browsers, because I am not able to use GUI :3
[03:01] <lud_> okthanks :)
[03:01] <Dr_willis> ive seen some that can do graphics via the framebuffer..
[03:01] <Dr_willis> !info links3g
[03:01] <Dr_willis> !info links
[03:02] <Loshki> lud_: lynx/links are 2 cmd line based browsers...
[03:02] <lud_> :o
[03:02] <Dr_willis> !indo w3m
[03:02] <Dr_willis> !info w3m
[03:02] <lud_> oh great
[03:02] <lud_> that will work just fine for me
[03:02] <lud_> :)
[03:03] <Dr_willis> if you ask which one supports flash... i will slap you.....
[03:03] <lud_> lol no I will not
[03:03] <lud_> lal
[03:03] <lud_> you can even kill me
[03:03] <lud_> stab me to death
[03:03] <lud_> or maybe hang me
[03:03] <Dr_willis> someone in here seriously asked about that the other day...
[03:03] <lud_> oh
[03:03] <Dr_willis> then was upset when it couldent be done..
[03:03] <exad> LMAO
[03:04] <exad> sorry, just happen to be reading.. too funny
[03:04] <Dr_willis> i forget which one of those console/text browsers could do images... i play with it ages ago...
[03:04] <lud_> It's just that my processor is so old that it doesn't support GUI :3
[03:04] <Sam_> Is the official release downloads a little slow tonight or is it just me?
[03:04] <Dr_willis> lynx, links, w3m
[03:05] <lud_> P4 (it is )
[03:05] <Sam_> seems like it
[03:05] <lud_> Sam_: maybe or maybe not
[03:07] <lud_> ls
[03:07] <lud_> aww dammn
[03:07] <lud_> I just love irssi
[03:08] <deckard> hello. is this the Ubuntu help room?
[03:08] <lud_> yes!
[03:08] <exad> tentatively
[03:09] <deckard> oh great. I am new to Ubuntu and do not know much about terminal. Will you tell me how to tell terminal to navigate to a folder like when you partially type a name and hit tab and it finishes it
[03:09] <Sam_> the cd command
[03:09] <deckard> i need to run a shell script in the home folder :)
[03:09] <Sam_> cd <directory path>
[03:10] <frenocha> deckard, you can use wildcards
[03:10] <deckard> dont know what they are
[03:10] <deckard> when i flick the shell as is, it opens in text
[03:10] <ThatOneRoadie> deckard: [ cd <path> ], and remember, starting the path with / starts it at /
[03:10] <deckard> in Mint it aske dme if i wanted to run
[03:10] <deckard> ty
[03:11] <Dr_willis> you can open a terminal, then drag/drop the folder into it.. ;) i recall it filling in the path
[03:11] <Dr_willis> with some terminals that is..
[03:11] <ThatOneRoadie> So /home/user/folder != home/user/folder
[03:11] <deckard> ty to you all
[03:11] <deckard> i will learn them all
[03:11] <lud_> nice google asks me to enable javascript.
[03:11] <exad> quick way to home : ~?
[03:11] <exad> quick way to home : ~/
[03:11] <exad> Sorry -_-
[03:11] <Dr_willis> exad,  quicker way.. 'cd'
[03:12] <exad> NO WAY
[03:12] <Dr_willis> way back     'cd -'
[03:12] <lud_> :o
[03:12] <deckard> also, how may i get the lib32 files to create x86 enviroment ?
[03:12] <exad> YOU'RE RIGHT!
[03:12] <Dr_willis> it pays to read the various bash books....   ;)
[03:12] <elkingrey> I'm getting this error when trying to open unetbootin
[03:12] <elkingrey> [seth@LockBox Downloads]$ ./unetbootin-linux-583
[03:12] <elkingrey> ./unetbootin-linux-583: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:12] <yofun> http://pastebin.com/YqQjUywU any idea whats wrong here?
[03:13] <yofun> i fixed part of it
[03:13] <yofun> now i have this
[03:13] <Dr_willis> looks like it wants that library elkingrey ..
[03:13] <Guest32054> anyone know if amd has drivers for the 8xxx series?
[03:13] <Sam_> deckard - apt-get install ia32-libs
[03:13] <deckard> ty
[03:14] <deckard> how may i get root?
[03:14] <Sam_> remember to use sudo ;)
[03:14] <Dr_willis> elkingrey,  you are on fedora? or am i thinking of someone else?
[03:14] <Sam_> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[03:14] <deckard> ty
[03:14] <yofun>   /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
[03:14] <yofun>   /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc
[03:14] <yofun> seems to be the issue
[03:15] <T3mp3> where i can get BOT for scanning timthumb ?
[03:15] <lud_> yofun: broken C++ compiler?
[03:15] <deckard> ThatOneRoadie, ty
[03:15] <Dr_willis> T3mp3,  clarify what you are asking please...
[03:15] <lud_> 5th and 6th line
[03:15] <yofun> lud how do i check?
[03:15] <elkingrey> Yes, on Fedora
[03:16] <lud_> yofun: try to compile a simple hellow world using g++?
[03:16] <Dr_willis> elkingrey,  unetbootin may be in the fedora packages..
[03:16] <yofun> eh
[03:16] <yofun> lol
[03:16] <Dr_willis> elkingrey,  or you can use dd to make a bootable usb.
[03:16] <T3mp3> how to scan timthumb ?
[03:16] <lud_> oh and I don't know much about cmake either
[03:16] <deckard> do i need to install proprietary  divers for video card?
[03:16] <lud_> T3mp3: maybe google :3
[03:16] <yofun> ya the issue os cmake
[03:16] <Dr_willis> T3mp3,  and whats a timthumb/ and scan it for what?
[03:16] <Sam_> deckard, most likely
[03:16] <yofun> not finding it
[03:17] <deckard> Sam_, what is the name of that GUI ?
[03:17] <Sam_> what gui?
[03:17] <Sam_> Unity?
[03:17] <LLckfan> Does any1 know how to stop Shockwave flash from crashing? I have uninstalled both Flash and my browser (Chrome), installed both from a fresh download, and scanned my computer (come up clean). Everything is updated
[03:17] <deckard> for proprietary driver
[03:17] <benwa> hey there
[03:17] <deckard> video
[03:17] <benwa> I need a kernel/grub guru
[03:17] <benwa> anyone like this around?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> !anyone
[03:18] <icedwater> benwa: just ask your question and someone might pop in.
[03:18] <Sam_> I'm not sure what your asking.  There should be a little popup in the right hand corner of your screen asking you to install proprietary drivers
[03:18] <elkingrey> Dr_willis: Okay, thanks. That was super easy to install. I always forget that these sorts of programs are in the fedora packages.
[03:18] <walltender> Will some one point to me a simple daemon allowing plugins?
[03:18] <deckard> none yet but i only installed recently
[03:18] <Dr_willis> walltender,  a simple daemon that does what?
[03:18] <Sam_> deckard - sudo apt-get update
[03:18] <benwa> I'm running into   a pb with grub
[03:18] <Sam_> then, sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:18] <deckard> ty
[03:18] <benwa> when I get I land in grub--rescude
[03:18] <benwa> same pb as here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/493268
[03:19] <deckard> sorry to seem doubting of your advice, sam_, but is it not safer to just use the GUI updater over terminal?
[03:19] <benwa> so if I do  "grub rescue> insmod linux" + "rescue:grub> normal" then it boots fine
[03:19] <Dr_willis> deckard,  the gui is a front end for the cli tools i belive
[03:19] <benwa> anyone now how grub works in details?
[03:19] <deckard> okay, when i used Mint the said it was bad idea
[03:19] <deckard> ok, ty
[03:20] <Dr_willis> i cant imagine why... i basically only use the cli tools...
[03:20] <lekremyelsew> benwa 1 or 2?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> some would say using mint 'is a bad idea' ;)
[03:20] <benwa> grub2 I believe
[03:20] <SleepyDaddySoftw> possibly quick questions about ubuntu phone/tablet app packaging: 1) Can you distribute shared library packages to the phone/tablet versions of ubuntu? 2) Can self-contained applications list these shared library packages as dependencies, just like the desktop software center? Meaning, they are installed when the app is installed, if not already installed by another app with the same...
[03:20] <SleepyDaddySoftw> ...dependency? 3) Once installed, can end-users overwrite installed shared libraries by some means (tethering to a PC, or accessing some kind of desktop mode by hooking up a keyboard/mouse/perhaps a display)? e.g. to install a custom build of a shared library?
[03:20] <Sam_> mint is awesome :)
[03:20] <benwa> oh hold I didn't a global update
[03:20] <benwa> and a reinstall of grub got triggered
[03:20] <benwa> I wonder if that'll fix the pb
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> SleepyDaddySoftw #ubuntu-touch
[03:21] <benwa> so my situation is tricky cuz
[03:21] <lekremyelsew> benwa did you grub-mkconfig after the install?
[03:21] <benwa> I wanna hange my setup and have my / on a raid 1
[03:22] <LLckfan> Does any1 know how o make a mouse stop moving on its own
[03:22] <benwa> I did update-grub
[03:22] <walltender> Dr_willis: a simple monitoring daemon and different plugins allowing to monitoring hardware. But I don't think there's a simple example of this.
[03:22] <samskiter> hi. does anyone know how i could go about extending the ubuntu log in to allow log in from conditions other than the user typing a password (for example face recognition log in) ??
[03:22] <benwa> however at the end I get Found Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (12.04) on /dev/sda1
[03:22] <LLckfan> Does any1 know how to make the mouse arrow stop moving on its own?
[03:22] <lekremyelsew> ah, I'm not familiar with raid systems, I may not ne able to help you
[03:22] <benwa> when really it's on /dev/md0
[03:24] <benwa> lekremyelsew I'm gonna try this reboot and see I'm not getting the grub-probe error no such disk I used to get
[03:24] <lud_> well It's just maybe
[03:24] <lud_> because I don't know much about RAID
[03:24] <lekremyelsew> bemwa: I'm pretty sure grub labels disks differently than they appear on the filesystem
[03:25] <benwa> ok it work now
[03:25] <deckard> I am receiving a message that I do not have privileged user and that i may only install in home folder and not system wide. Any drawbacks to this?
[03:25] <benwa> but I got an error msg for several seconds
[03:25] <benwa> saying error: file not found PRess any key to continue
[03:25] <Dr_willis> deckard,  install what exactly?
[03:25] <benwa> and then it boots fine
[03:26] <deckard> Firestorm Viewer for Second Life (world game)
[03:26] <deckard> In Mint i use to jsut run from home and i was fine i guess
[03:26] <Sam_> your home folder should be fine
[03:26] <benwa> lekremyelsew so you'd sais sda1 should be undetstood md0?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> deckard,  it will all be in your home..
[03:26] <deckard> okay, i am still trying to get it to run, ty
[03:26] <Dr_willis> deckard,  if you had sudo riughts you could install it system wide
[03:26] <deckard> benefit to this?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> but i dont see the point in doing that..
[03:26] <deckard> k
[03:26] <LLckfan> Does any1 know how to make the mouse arrow stop moving on its own?
[03:26] <deckard> ok
[03:26] <Dr_willis> system wide - all users can run it
[03:27] <benwa> actually md0 is active raid of sda1 maybe that's why
[03:28] <camilo_> hola como voy a ubuntu en español?
[03:28] <elkingrey> Loshki, Dr_willis: Thanks for the help. I've successfully installed Unetbootin, md5sum'ed my iso file and created a live usb image. Is there any sort of md5sum checking I can do on the live image as well?
[03:28] <deckard> will all plugins for Firefox work on Ubuntu like it did on Windows?
[03:28] <deckard> addons*
[03:29] <lekremyelsew> benwa I'm not sure thats the correct name, but I know that it may be inconsistent to the filesystem name
[03:30] <lekremyelsew> benwa: I also don't eveb know if grub is RAID aware
[03:30] <ZeloZelos> camilo_, #ubuntu-es
[03:30] <camilo_> gracias
[03:30] <ZeloZelos> welcome
[03:31] <benwa> lekremyelsew yeah it is
[03:31] <exad> shouldn't his raid have a single mount point? /dev/sdx?
[03:31] <belovedbe> How do I my active bitcoin-qt session in the command prompt? $ bitcoin-qt # This just open a new bitcoin-qt session
[03:32] <lekremyelsew> benwa, good to know, but it is working now, right?
[03:33] <benwa> not completely
[03:33] <camilo_> alguién que me ayude en ubuntu en español no está muy movida la cosa
[03:34] <benwa> hold on I wanted to show you something I can't recall the trick
[03:34] <camilo_> es sobre Tor
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> !es | camilo_
[03:34] <benwa> ah I got it
[03:35] <benwa> lekremyelsew when you create your raid you need to set the metadata  to version 0.9
[03:35] <camilo_> de ahí vengo... no hay mucha ayuda por allá
[03:36] <benwa> my grub.cfg is fuck up tho
[03:36] <ZeloZelos> camilo_, si utiliza google translate http://translate.google.com im seguro de que alguien le puede ayudar a
[03:37] <benwa> what's the proper way to recinfig it without live cd?
[03:37] <Myrtti> !language | benwa
[03:37] <benwa> actually it's good I just need to remove the very first one
[03:37] <camilo_> buena.... gracias.... me camuflaré :-)
[03:37] <benwa> s/recinfig/reconfig
[03:38] <ZeloZelos> benwa, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/live-cd-to-fix-restore-grub-and-grub2.html
[03:40] <l_r> is N3568 - Shared Locking in C++ accept for c++14?
[03:40] <benwa> update-grub is what I was looking for
[03:40] <l_r> *accepted
[03:40] <l_r> ops sorry
[03:40] <l_r> bad channell
[03:41] <ZeloZelos> benwa, you also could use grub customizer
[03:41] <camilo_> I want to surf the internet deep ... as protect my ubuntu?
[03:41] <benwa> ZeloZelos how does that work?
[03:42] <LLckfan> Does any1 know how to make the mouse arrow stop moving on its own?
[03:42] <ae86-drifter> Hi there, I have a jump host that i have access to, and it's IP has access to another network which has a web interface i need access to. How can I forward port 80 via the jump host so that I can access the web interface on my local machine? thanks
[03:42] <ZeloZelos> benwa, it gives you a gui to change grub around, instead of typing commands n stuff
[03:42] <benwa> oh it's a gui sweet
[03:42] <benwa> nice
[03:42] <ZeloZelos> ;)
[03:42] <benwa> thanks !
[03:43] <camilo_> Use TOR ... know it is not infallible
[03:43] <ZeloZelos> camilo_, usted no necesita protección antivirus para ubuntu normalmente, sólo tenga cuidado acerca de los programas y que debe estar bien
[03:45] <camilo_> a reliable directory that I can recommend?
[03:47] <ZeloZelos> camilo_, buscar en el ubuntu software de centro de im seguro de que hay unos cuantos para elegir, todos recomendado
[03:48] <benwa> alright I got it to work
[03:48] <benwa> thanks for helping
[03:48] <benwa> g'night folks
[03:48] <ZeloZelos> ni ni
[03:49] <camilo_> gracias...
[03:49] <camilo_> the virus can be transferred from my ubuntu to another computer with windows without knowing? I understand that my ubuntu is not affected,
[03:50] <ZeloZelos> si
[03:51] <camilo_> si?
[03:51] <SIFTU> LLckfan: you can use ssh -D and set your browser proxy
[03:51] <ZeloZelos> hay muy pocos virusus ese efecto o ubuntu linux
[03:53] <LLckfan> Does any1 know how to make the mouse arrow stop moving on its own?
[03:53] <icedwater> camilo_: yes, if you want to be responsible and courteous you might install an antivirus.
[03:54] <ZeloZelos> LLckfan, usually when my mouse moves on its own, there
[03:54] <ae86-drifter> SIFTU, was that meant for me?
[03:54] <ZeloZelos> s a hair in the optics or the mouse is breaking
[03:54] <camilo_> ok
[03:54] <SIFTU> ae86-drifter: I might have got the nick wrong.. the jump host one?
[03:54] <ae86-drifter> yep
[03:54] <SIFTU> ae86-drifter: then yes :)
[03:55] <ae86-drifter> I'll try what you suggest, what should the bi,nd address be?
[03:55] <ae86-drifter> thanks
[03:55] <SIFTU> ae86-drifter: like this "ssh -D 8080:localhost:22 user@remote"
[03:55] <SIFTU> ae86-drifter: then point your browsers sock5 proxy to localhost:8080
[03:55] <LLckfan> No hair
[03:56] <ae86-drifter> okay  i'll try now cheers
[03:56] <camilo_> thanks
[03:57] <ZeloZelos> LLckfan, did you check between the optic mirrors and the laser emiter (you would have to take the mouse apart)
[03:57] <LLckfan> There is no hair
[03:58] <LLckfan> If there was a hair it would do it all the time
[03:58] <ZeloZelos> maybe, when is it doing it?
[03:59] <ae86-drifter> SIFTU, I am getting the error:Bad dynamic forwarding specification '8080:localhost:22'
[03:59] <LLckfan> When it is on the desk
[03:59] <Random832> ae86-drifter: you don't put a target for dynamic forwarding
[03:59] <Random832> that's why it's dynamic
[04:00] <SIFTU> ae86-drifter: ah sorry "ssh -D 8080 user@remote"
[04:00] <ae86-drifter> Random832, so I should change to localhost:8080 ?
[04:00] <ae86-drifter> SIFTU, okay cheers
[04:00] <ZeloZelos> if i use my mouse on the couch it jumps around/moves on its own, because the surface is rough LLckfan, but what i ment was, does it do that ramdomly, only when you are using a program, or something like that
[04:01] <LLckfan> Random
[04:01] <LLckfan> But when it starts it will not stop
[04:01] <camilo_> I want to search directories from internet  deep  in the software center?
[04:01] <ZeloZelos> i doubt the operating system has anything to do with the mouse moving ramdomly, is it wireless, perhaps interferance, if wired, maybe its slightly unplugged or the wire is getting worn
[04:01] <LLckfan> wireless
[04:02] <walltender> Dr_willis: a simple monitoring daemon and different plugins allowing to monitoring hardware. Do you know any such examples?
[04:02] <LLckfan> And when I turn it off then back on it will not move ithout me moving it then it goes crazy
[04:03] <SIFTU> walltender: zabbix, nagios
[04:03] <ZeloZelos> its probably broken i guess, did you try it in a different computer LLckfan
[04:03] <SIFTU> walltender: maybe just snmp
[04:06] <ZeloZelos> camilo_, Por favor, inténtelo de nuevo que no entendemos
[04:09] <gzy23> hey
[04:10] <ZeloZelos> i think i go to bed too, gnight everyone
[04:10] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[04:10] <walltender> SIFTU: Thanks for the help, I am looking for a simple example so I could learn how to write one myself. In fact, I am googled how to allow a daemon to add plugins. But I didn't find anything
[04:10] <SIFTU> walltender: you want to write your own monitoring system? in what language?
[04:11] <Mewtini> um, hi! my computer's being really weird and, well.
[04:11] <walltender> SIFTU: in C
[04:11] <Mewtini> It's continually locking the folders up and complaining about /var/lib/dpkg/lock after running a sudo apt-get whatever.
[04:12] <amh345> i'vw got a server the has some backups organized by date uploaded via scp.  are there any tools available that can merge these folders and remove duplicate files?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  the filesystems not getting remounted read only is it?
[04:12] <Mewtini> think so
[04:12] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  thats a sign of hard drive/filesystem curruption or failure
[04:12] <Mewtini> Yeah that's what I thought.
[04:12] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  see what 'dmesg' says about things.. look for IO error type lines
[04:12] <Mewtini> In terminal?
[04:13] <gzy23> Hi everyone, i'm new to IRC and trying to figure out whats going on.  Can anyone inform me why they usually come to the IRC chats?
[04:14] <Mewtini> EXT4-fs error (device sda2) in ext4_new_inode:938: IO failure
[04:14] <amh345> i see something called fslint for finding duplicate files.
[04:14] <betrayd> !irc | gzy23
[04:14] <ejv> gzy23: for support and/or education
[04:14] <Mewtini> And then lower down it has another IO failure (and a line has "journal has aborted")
[04:15] <SIFTU> amh345: yeah you could script it
[04:15] <Mewtini> gzy23: Yeah, I haven't usually had to come in here, but... yeah, for those times when my system goes berserk.
[04:15] <camilo_> no problem I go to sleep
[04:15] <gzy23> do you find this to be more helpful than other things like simply googling or posting on a forum?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  id be making backups of critical info on that filesystem. then perhaps fscking from a live cd..
[04:16] <betrayd> gzy23: timing is a factor
[04:16] <Mewtini> gzy23: I'm not on the Ubuntu forums, but I'd imagine that IRC has the time advantage
[04:16] <betrayd> in irc, where you're lucky if people you see know about your problem
[04:16] <Dr_willis> biggest resource here is often what people rember seeing at a site, or other places.. to point people to the right dirction
[04:17] <Mewtini> and it has the personal troubleshooting thing
[04:17] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com is also worth bookmarking and searching as you wait in irc.
[04:17] <betrayd> forum is right when you've got better things to do than sit around
[04:17] <Mewtini> Dr_willis: Luckily I've got nothing on here other than some Minecraft saves, which I can afford to lose :)
[04:17] <gzy23> ok cool thanks!
[04:17] <Dr_willis> forums can often be hard to get specific info on.. askubuntu.com can be a bit more focused
[04:18] <Mewtini> I had a Xubuntu system before this; it crashed after complaining about Xauthority.
[04:18] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  common issue is the .Xauthority file getting owned by root.  its a security file thing that needs to be owned by the user running X.
[04:18] <Mewtini> Which is why I went ahead and dug up an Ubuntu 12.04 disc (which I upgraded to 12.10, then to 13.04)
[04:19] <netlar> Mewtini: how did your upgrades go?
[04:19] <Dr_willis> hard drives defainatly seem to be the #1 point of failure these days
[04:19] <deckard> hello again, how do i find the "additional drivers" gui?
[04:19] <Mewtini> Dr_willis: Ah, okay... someone said to try deleting the /var/lib/dpkg/lock but I haven't yet, since it won't let me
[04:19] <Mewtini> netlar: They went flawlessly.
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  if the filesystem is read only.. you cant delete/write anything.. untill its checked/remounted read/write
[04:19] <Mewtini> Yeah, I know.
[04:20] <netlar> Mewtini: good to know, hope that is my experience when the time comes
[04:20] <Mewtini> Not sure why this computer is dying on me so quickly, though; it's only about a year old.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  they make hds as cheap as they can these days. ;(
[04:21] <SIFTU> Mewtini: yeah HDD quality has dropped since the flood
[04:21] <deckard> how do i install the proprietary drivers ?
[04:21] <Mewtini> I wouldn't think that a lenovo thinkpad would be that horrible.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> if you look at what a typical HD is doing.. its amazing they are realiable as they are
[04:21] <deckard> for video cars
[04:21] <Mewtini> hrm.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> deckard,  what video card? what ubuntu release
[04:22] <deckard> newest release, Nvida GeForece 9600m GT
[04:22] <deckard> Force*
[04:22] <deckard> i see it in Software center?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> deckard,  software-sources tool -> addational drivers tab..
[04:22] <deckard> ty
[04:22] <Dr_willis> that should suggest what to install.
[04:22] <Mewtini> I'm supposed to be moving over to another computer soon, but it has lower specs than this one and is actually from '07... so hopefully that goes well?
[04:22] <deckard> i find it, ty
[04:23] <Mewtini> Also, I'm trying to burn the 13.04 .iso to a USB stick with UNetbootin to install it on the other computer.
[04:23] <Mewtini> (The other computer doesn't have a cd drive.)
[04:23] <Mewtini> And somehow it refuses to work?
[04:23] <betrayd> will it boot from USB?
[04:23] <Dr_willis> the Pendrivelinux site has alterantives to Unetbootin
[04:23] <Mewtini> Yeah, it has that option.
[04:23] <deckard> i see so many, any advice which to choose?
[04:24] <Dr_willis> or you can 'dd' the iso file straight to the usb flash.
[04:24] <Mewtini> BIOS > Temporary boot device > USB HDD 2.0.
[04:24] <Dr_willis> deckard,  look for one that says sugested/reccomended.. ;)
[04:24] <deckard> none say this
[04:25] <Dr_willis> flip a coin then i guess.. ;)
[04:25] <Mewtini> And going back to corrupt hard drive, I rebooted to try to kick it into working... and instead it failed to get anywhere from the Ubuntu splash.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> i dont know what they say... so really cant advise
[04:25] <deckard> i see proprietary , tested
[04:25] <deckard> and the others are propretary
[04:25] <deckard> go with that
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  eww..   might be worth trying a live cd and see if you can fsck the drive
[04:25] <Mewtini> So I ended up rebooting with the recovery 3.8.20-whatever kernel in recovery, and ignored the fact that it couldn't get /tmp to mount
[04:26] <Mewtini> (with i to ignore)
[04:26] <Mewtini> Hm, okay.
[04:27] <Dr_willis> i really have to wonder what the 'real world' lifespan will be of these ssd's that everyone is starting to switch to.
[04:28] <Mewtini> A'ight, I just tried fsck for the heck of it
[04:29] <Mewtini> Mostly because I won't have access to a live cd for ~week and am too paranoid to wait that long :/
[04:29] <ThatOneRoadie> Dr_willis: About 10 million read/write operations, which is why Trim is required, and if you defrag an SSD I will murder your family
[04:29] <Mewtini> It apparently did *something*
[04:29] <ThatOneRoadie> %s/required/recommended
[04:29] <Mewtini> (c'mon let's go defrag an ssd)
[04:30]  * ThatOneRoadie gets the LART
[04:30] <ripthejacker> what does the <IP_ADDRESS> in the /etc/hosts mean?
[04:30] <ThatOneRoadie> ripthejacker: loopback
[04:30] <Dr_willis> ThatOneRoadie,  makes ya wonder about people running windows on ssds and windows auto-defrag stuff...
[04:30] <ThatOneRoadie> i.e. "This Machine"
[04:30] <betrayd> huh 1.1
[04:30] <ripthejacker> ThatOneRoadie: no <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:30] <ThatOneRoadie> Dr_willis: 7 and up auto-senses ssd's and won't defrag
[04:30] <ripthejacker> *not
[04:31] <ThatOneRoadie> <IP_ADDRESS>/8 is all loopback
[04:31]  * Dr_willis wonders what if its a SSD in a usb enclosure..
[04:31] <ThatOneRoadie> try <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:31] <ThatOneRoadie> loops back
[04:31] <ripthejacker> ThatOneRoadie: if I try to resolve my hostname it gives <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:32] <ThatOneRoadie> <IP_ADDRESS> is a loopback address
[04:32] <ripthejacker> I want it to resolve to the IP set by the router
[04:32] <Dr_willis> ripthejacker,  edit your /etc/hosts file perhaps?
[04:32] <ThatOneRoadie> sooooooo you want http://TheCompy1/ to resolve to 192.168.2.x?
[04:32] <ripthejacker> but will it affect anything else?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> it will just affect that machine
[04:33] <ripthejacker> Dr_willis: the ip given by the router is not constant
[04:33] <ripthejacker> no
[04:33] <Dr_willis> ripthejacker,  my router has options to make it assign ip based on mac. ;)
[04:33] <Dr_willis> so they stay constant
[04:33] <ripthejacker> i want my hostname to relsolve to 192.168.1.x
[04:33] <walltender> SIFTU: Do you know any such examples?
[04:34] <SIFTU> walltender: not in C
[04:34] <ripthejacker> Dr_willis: the router in my office may have the same capabilities but i'm don't have acces to it's admin
[04:34] <walltender> SIFTU: C++ is also fine I assume.
[04:36] <Mewtini> Rebooted Ubuntu after fsck.
[04:36] <Mewtini> And it booted without any errors whatsoever. :D?
[04:38] <Mewtini> And lo and behold, it's fine.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  id be keeping an eye on that hd.. it may be sick. ;)
[04:38] <Mewtini> Wow.
[04:38] <Mewtini> Oh, it probably is.
[04:38] <yesman> :P
[04:38] <deckard> i am not able to choose webcam on those tiny flash boxes. what could it be?
[04:38] <Mewtini> It killed Xubuntu...
[04:38] <SIFTU> Mewtini: yeah run smartmon on it
[04:38] <Dr_willis> not like the old days where you could hear the hds dieing on you...
[04:38] <Dr_willis> deckard, sometimes with flash you have to 'fullscreen' the flash video/player befor you can click on the flash settings buttons
[04:39] <Mewtini> I think that the bad sectors happen to fall where Linux ends up being; my Windows 7 partition has always been fine, although I need to keep that image for school's sake.
[04:39] <deckard> i try, ty
[04:39] <Mewtini> (If I had my way, I'd delete it and make way for Linux.)
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Mewtini,  ive repartioned hds to put bad sectors in a 'dont use' partition. ;)
[04:39] <Mewtini> haha
[04:39] <Dr_willis> those hds tend to be come the 'media drives' for the kids rokus or other media player devices
[04:39] <Dr_willis> if they die.. they die
[04:40] <Mewtini> Windows 7 has 130GB all to itself; Ubuntu's stuck on a measly 30GB. :(
[04:40] <Mewtini> And then about 5GB swap space.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> i got a 100gb ssd just for ubuntu in this box.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> smazing how fast it boots up
[04:40] <Mewtini> :D
[04:41] <Mewtini> I first noticed earlier on today when it wouldn't let me unzip an archive
[04:41] <Dr_willis> the bios post info takes longer then grub --> login screen
[04:41] <Mewtini> And then it got worse when I realized that it wouldn't let me install Amarok (testing media players))
[04:42] <Mewtini> But... for the moment, it's running beautifully. I just need it to live long enough for me to get Ubuntu on the other computer and move my files over...
[04:43] <Mewtini> And if anything, I can use Windows if need be.
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Blasphmy!
[04:43] <Mewtini> I know, right.
[04:43] <Dr_willis> whats sad.. i bought a $12 'usb video grabber' that was supposed to work in ubuntu.. but unfortunatly the company switched chipsets and kept the same name for the device.. so it dont work in linux.
[04:44] <Mewtini> Oh no...
[04:44] <Dr_willis> and the device is so poor.. only the software that came with it.. works in windows. ;)
[04:44] <Dr_willis> but for $12  i guess i cant rant too much
[04:44] <Mewtini> true
[04:44] <Dr_willis> im suprised it works as well as it does.. if it just worked in linux. ;(
[04:45] <Mewtini> So it runs well in Windows?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> it works. ;)
[04:45] <Dr_willis> the device is identified as 'oem-video-capture'  ;P
[04:45] <Mewtini> But yeah, it's a good thing that it didn't cost, like, $50.
[04:45] <Dr_willis> shows how well done the drivers are.
[04:45] <Dr_willis> No other video capture software in windows works with it.. jkust the software that came with it.
[04:45] <Mewtini> Hm...
[04:46] <Dr_willis> and a 30min cartoon - grabs to be a 300mb video file.. been doing video convertings   this week. ;)
[04:46] <deckard> If i switch to a very low graphics intensive dekstop will that also take away from the game i play?
[04:46] <Mewtini> My younger sister has a VisTablet that she used on her Windows 7 school computer (it was shipped with it) and her computer broke
[04:46] <Dr_willis> deckard,  take away? most games can use their own res settings.
[04:46] <Mewtini> and she's mad because it doesn't work on Linux
[04:47] <Mewtini> (I have a Wacom Bamboo but she doesn't like how small it is)
[04:47] <kvothetech> Mewtini: look up hcl before getting it :)
[04:47] <switching> I have two questions: one, why is wubi not opening?  two, is it possible to set up a dual boot by booting off of a usb?
[04:47] <deckard> i just want to put the least amount of work on my system as far as the desktop and affects. but i want the game to stay as nice as it looks now on ubuntu
[04:47] <Mewtini> switching I'd guess that it'd be possible to set up a dual boot?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> switching,  you can do a full install to a usb hd, or flash drive. and boot it and use grub on the usb to dual boot.
[04:47] <Dr_willis> switching,  and as for wubi.. its best to forget wubi exists...
[04:48] <switching> no i mean install off of the usb to a partition
[04:48] <switching> dr_willis ;(
[04:48] <switching> but it is still supposed to work right
[04:48] <SIFTU> deckard: it will be ok
[04:48] <switching> at least for 12.04
[04:48] <Mewtini> wubi works, yes
[04:48] <SIFTU> deckard: and probably better without the effects
[04:48] <deckard> okay ty, which dekstop do you recomend ?
[04:48] <Mewtini> at least it did for 12.10
[04:48] <deckard> do i keep unity/
[04:48] <switching> mewtini any suggestions?
[04:49] <switching> i tried disabling firewall/antivirus to no avail
[04:49] <SIFTU> deckard: lighter desktops are xfce, lxde etc
[04:49] <Mewtini> Um! I used Unity, because I love the look; it does look like it eats my resources (my computer is already pushed to its limits just running an OS)
[04:49] <deckard> can i find all the info on getting those from the forums?
[04:49] <buengenio> how can I add indicators/applets to the top panel (or whatever it's called) in Unity?
[04:49] <SIFTU> unity is one of the heaviest along with KDE
[04:49] <buengenio> I don't see any config options for it anywher
[04:49] <Mewtini> GNOME 3 is terrible, just sayin'.
[04:50] <Mewtini> KDE is slow although I had it at first because it reminded me of Windows.
[04:50] <switching> "Use the checkboxes to choose whether you’d like to Install Ubuntu alongside another operating system, delete your existing operating system and replace it with Ubuntu, or — if you’re an advanced user — choose the ’Something else’ option" does this mean I can set up a dual boot while booting off of a usb?
[04:50] <SIFTU> Mewtini: not slow for me
[04:50] <Mewtini> XFCE is really light and prettier than LXDE, but I like Unity's eye candy. ;)
[04:51] <Mewtini> switching: yes, it does!
[04:51] <Mewtini> Something else allows you to set up your own partitions and things.
[04:51] <deckard> how i get xfce?
[04:51] <switching> mewtini alright, hopefully this doesn'
[04:51] <crankharder> why is it when I remove a package some /etc/ files don't get removed, and if I rm them manually, and then reinstall the package they aren't put back in place?
[04:51] <switching> t mess things up
[04:51] <Mewtini> switching hopefully!
[04:52] <switching> I tried to manually partition once and my computer went haywire
[04:52] <Mewtini> oh no!
[04:52] <kvothetech> crankharder: such as
[04:52] <crankharder> monit
[04:52] <Mewtini> deckard it should be in the software center
[04:52] <crankharder> it left everythign in /etc/monit as well as /etc/logrotate.d/monit and some other things
[04:52] <deckard> ty
[04:52] <Dr_willis> crankharder,  thats why apt-get has a PURGE option, and some programs have setting files in their own seperate package
[04:52] <Mewtini> I think there's a commandline way to do it but I forget it at the moment
[04:53] <Mewtini> Same thing with the other DE's. :)
[04:53] <Mewtini> And then there's Enlightenment...
[04:53] <deckard> all i see is "About Xfce"
[04:53] <crankharder> Dr_willis: ty
[04:53] <kvothetech> crankharder: it's supposed to leave the logs and you probably changed something in /etc/monit.
[04:53] <DragonRift> hello, I installed the ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386 on avirtual machine and it installed the Unity3D desktop by default and never let me chose a diff one during install. how do I change this
[04:53] <Mewtini> Huh, I'll go on a Google Journey (tm)
[04:53] <switching> do you think a 6 year old computer will be able to boot from usb?
[04:54] <deckard> no no im not lazy i can do
[04:54] <Dr_willis> DragonRift,  install a differnt desktop. select it at the login screen
[04:54] <kvothetech> DragonRift: ctrl alt f1 apt-get install "gui you want"
[04:54] <switching> or will I have to do DVD?
[04:54] <deckard>  you thnk i can find XFC easy install instruction on forum?
[04:54] <Mewtini> switching depends on if BIOS has it as an option
[04:54] <Mewtini> also deckard what did you search for?
[04:54] <deckard> XFCE
[04:54] <switching> mewtini how to check?
[04:54] <Mewtini> try 'xubuntu' for the search item
[04:54] <Dr_willis> no need to use the console if  you can get to a terminal on X. ;)
[04:54] <switching> mewtini any way besides rebooting and hitting f12? :P
[04:55] <Mewtini> switching sadly, no :(
[04:55] <switching> :(
[04:55] <switching> ok
[04:55] <switching> brb it is then
[04:55] <Mewtini> so good luck!
[04:55] <switching> ty
[04:55] <kvothetech> switching: most can but yeah you have to look to make sure.
[04:55] <Kb8wlu> whats the command to dual boot grub window
[04:55] <Kb8wlu> dr willis you here?
[04:56] <DragonRift> Dr_willis: I don't know how
[04:56] <Kb8wlu> whats the command for grub to dual  boot
[04:56] <kvothetech> Kb8wlu: ?
[04:56] <DragonRift> kvmadsen: can I not download an ISO that has the gnome desktop?
[04:56] <Mewtini> Kb8wlu - I probably won't know the answer, but I can try... not exactly sure what you mean, though
[04:57] <Kb8wlu> i think is sudo repair-grub
[04:57] <Mewtini> DragonRight: For Ubuntu? I don't think so.
[04:57] <Mewtini> *DragonRift
[04:57] <kvothetech> DragonRift: you can make one if you can't find one
[04:57] <DragonRift> Newatin: this is a pain because the I am runnign in a VM and its doing like 1 FPS
[04:57] <Mewtini> The one from ubuntu.com is only GNOME, but... yeah.
[04:57] <Mewtini> DragonRift :(
[04:58] <kvothetech> DragonRift: go to a console install a diff gui or install the xorg drivers for your vm platform if applicable
[04:58] <DragonRift> kvothetech: I am new to linux and my programming instructor had me install ubuntu in a VM
[04:58] <Mewtini> ah
[04:59] <Mewtini> Linux is definitely a bit of a learning curve :)
[04:59] <DragonRift> I have been using windows for 17 years
[04:59] <Mewtini> Coming from Windows, that is.
[04:59] <Dr_willis> WIndows has its own learning curve..
[04:59] <Mewtini> OS X probably isn't as bad.
[04:59] <Mewtini> switching, hi!
[04:59] <Dr_willis> had to help a gui with windows 8 last week...  we couldent figure out where the wireless settings was at.
[04:59] <Mewtini> How'd it go.
[05:00] <Dewi> DragonRift: you can switch to xubuntu with the xubuntu-desktop package, it should run a bit better in a vim
[05:00] <Dewi> DragonRift: er in a vm
[05:00] <Mewtini> Yeah Windows 8 seems like it's an evil of its own.
[05:00] <switching> if USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, and USB-CDROM are options, am i good to go?
[05:00] <Mewtini> yes
[05:00] <Mewtini> I think.
[05:00] <DragonRift> anyone direct me to an ISO link
[05:00] <switching> :D
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Os-X has its own weird learning curve also.. well. more of a cliff..
[05:00] <Dr_willis> !download
[05:00] <Dewi> DragonRift: I have unity running okay in a VM with 3d acceleration but it's still pretty slow
[05:00] <Mewtini> Yes but OS X to Linux is still not that bad.
[05:00] <root_> hey everyone
[05:00] <Mewtini> Just because... both are Unix based! ;)
[05:01] <kvothetech> os x is messed cause it's supposed to be bsd but nothing from bsd applies (try it) same with all the macports and stuff..they're just messed up
[05:01] <root_> i just downloaded kali linux, is there a speific channel for help with it?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> root_,  check its homepage and see? i would guess #kali
[05:01] <DragonRift> I was told to use the latest Ubuntu because 12.x did not support my laptop drivers
[05:01] <kvothetech> Rootert: backtrack
[05:01] <switching> uggghhhhhhhhhh wubi
[05:01] <kalistudent> thanx kvothetech
[05:01] <switching> i give up on you
[05:02] <Dr_willis> and hopefully in the next year.. wubi will finally be dead. ;P and burried.
[05:02] <Mewtini> Hopefully!
[05:02] <switching> but it used to work ;-(
[05:02] <Dewi> DragonRift: or you could try gnome-desktop-environment package, but that's gnome 3 so it still might be in 3d and slow, depends on whether it falls back ornot
[05:02] <kvothetech> DragonRift: I do most of my installs using debootstrap..you should be able to do that and pick whatever version you want with whatever de you want
[05:02] <switching> HALLELUJAH it worked!!!!!!
[05:02] <Mewtini> Wubi is really great for those who... who just want to try it out.
[05:02] <kvothetech> Dr_willis: people still use wubi?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> and frogotten  like those silly tweak-ubuntu scripts from years ago..
[05:03] <switching> kvothetech hi!
[05:03] <Mewtini> But seriously live cd isn't hard.
[05:03] <switching> i do!
[05:03] <Dr_willis> and that dangerous 'macbuntu' stuff.
[05:03] <switching> mewtini my computer despises it
[05:03] <Mewtini> :(
[05:03] <switching> last i tried it i had to search for my xp restore cd :(
[05:03] <Mewtini> oh, no :(
[05:04] <kvothetech> switching: lol why? between kvm, full install, xen, vbox, vmware  etc....wubi's kinda pointless
[05:04] <switching> but im thinking of getting a system76 laptop this summer
[05:04] <Dr_willis> running ubuntu in vbox here on win7 - seems to work decently well
[05:04] <switching> do you recommend those?
[05:04] <Mewtini> yes
[05:04] <Mewtini> I have a Windows 7 VM in VMWare Player over here.
[05:04] <kvothetech> switching: I use kvm the most but other than xen al of them are more or less supported very well.
[05:05] <switching> mewtini for college? :) im going into comp eng
[05:05] <kvothetech> xen is supported but linux is slowly moving away from it
[05:05] <Mewtini> I wish VBox worked because "omg open source!1!!!!" but... it doesn't.
[05:05] <Mewtini> switching no, not up to college age... not even close
[05:05] <Dewi> Mewtini: it works okay
[05:05] <switching> mewtini what do you mean not up to college age?
[05:06] <Mewtini> switching that's me being tired, oops.
[05:06] <deckard> thank you to those that helped i am looking set up
[05:06] <Dewi> oh, dunno about win7
[05:06] <Dewi> I mean it works but I dunno how comfortably long term
[05:06] <Dewi> Dr_willis: it runs horribly because of the 3d
[05:06] <Mewtini> I read it as "are you going to college" somehow and meant that I'm not close to being eighteen
[05:06] <switching> lol what did you mean to say
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  actually the 3d seems to work decently well for me.
[05:07] <Dewi> Dr_willis: without 3d acceleration it takes 5 seconds to render a window, with 3d it still takes a second
[05:07] <switching> mewtini oh i see
[05:07] <switching> any idea why wubi is downloading amd64 when i have 32bit xp?
[05:07] <kvothetech> Dewi: does your host have direct acceleration support in the kernel or is it emulating it even with acceleration
[05:08] <Mewtini> switching ?! Wow, that's really weird.
[05:08] <Dewi> kvothetech: I have guest additions installed, if that's what you mean
[05:08] <Mewtini> It isn't set to or something like that, is it.
[05:08] <switching> mewtini should i cancel?
[05:08] <bcbc2> switching: many 64bit computers come with a 32bit windows
[05:08] <kvothetech> switching: unless youre on something pre 2002, netbook, or a phone 64 bit's fine and probably preferable
[05:08] <bcbc2> switching: unless you want 32bit ubuntu, you can safely leave it
[05:08] <Dewi> kvothetech: debian runs fine in 2d and 3d even without guest additions...
[05:09] <switching> bcbc2 i have 2gb of ram
[05:09] <DragonRift> gawd, this is making me cry its so slow
[05:09] <switching> the max for my mb
[05:09] <kvothetech> switching: what cpu
[05:09] <kvothetech> DragonRift: ?
[05:09] <bcbc2> switching: I don't think it matters. I'd run 64bit if the computer supports it.
[05:09] <kvothetech> Dewi: i mean in your kernel..on the host..do you have 3d guest support built in
[05:09] <DragonRift> trying to navigate the desktop at like 1 Frame per second
[05:09] <switching> pentium 4 :P
[05:09] <kvothetech> DragonRift: ctrl alt f1
[05:10] <kalistudent> btw if anyones curious, its #kali-linux
[05:10] <switching> bcbc2 cool
[05:10] <kvothetech> DragonRift: that'll give you a terminal to work with ...
[05:10] <kalistudent> for the next guy that asks
[05:10] <Mewtini> intel core 2 duo and 2GB RAM... I wish that I had a high enough memory that I could run 64bit though.
[05:10] <kvothetech> Mewtini: that can run 64 bit..you don't NEED 4gb ram to be 64 bit
[05:10] <kvothetech> al the core 2 duo are 64 bit cpu's
[05:10] <switching> kvothetech can i? pentium four an 2gb?
[05:11] <Mewtini> yeah, I knew that the processor was 64bit
[05:11] <SIFTU> switching: 32bit will use about 10% less RAM
[05:11] <kvothetech> Mewtini: you can run it then.
[05:11] <Mewtini> Maybe it is but would it run okay with that amount of RAM?
[05:11] <switching> also can you upgrade to 13.04 after installing 12.04 through wubi
[05:11] <Mewtini> switching yes.
[05:11] <kvothetech> SIFTU: lol where you get that from
[05:11] <Mewtini> I'd imagine so!
[05:11] <switching> siftu but what are the pluses to 64?
[05:11] <Dewi> actually that was a different host, I should try both on this host sometime
[05:11] <bcbc2> switching: if you want 13.04 use the 13.04 wubi. it will save you a lot of time
[05:12] <switching> bcbc2 doesnt exist i think, wubi only works with 12.04 now according to the site
[05:12] <kvothetech> switching: i don't think he has a clue what he's talking about...10 percent less ram would only be true MAYBE if you ran...nothing?
[05:12] <SIFTU> switching: 64 can address more RAM
[05:12] <SIFTU> kvothetech: ;)
[05:12] <bcbc2> switching: yeah it does exist
[05:12] <switching> siftu my mb only holds 2 gb max lol
[05:12] <Dewi> Dr_willis: I am curious, is your OpenGL renderer and version "Chromium" ?
[05:12] <Mewtini> switching: if your computer's already acting funky then it might be a good idea to use 12.04LTS for stability's sake
[05:13] <SIFTU> switching: which is why I would go 32 bit
[05:13] <Mewtini> and if it runs okay then, well, yeah... upgrade
[05:13] <bcbc2> switching: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ look there
[05:13] <switching> bcbc2 link? 0.0
[05:13] <switching> ty
[05:13] <kvothetech> SIFTU: where you get that 32 bit uses 10percent less ram?
[05:13] <switching> siftu which means i need the i386 one right?
[05:13] <SIFTU> kvothetech: it's well known http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/stick-to-32-bit-for-your-low-end-box/
[05:14] <Mewtini> if your computer is 32 bit, then yeah, switching
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  loading it up now.. i got video reencoding.. :) so my whole system is slow..
[05:14] <switching> mewtini cool
[05:14] <Mewtini> switching sounds like pentium 4's are all 32bit/i386's, yeah
[05:15] <Mewtini> according to a quick google search
[05:15] <Dewi> kvothetech: it makes sense because the default integer storage size doubles in 64-bit
[05:15] <SIFTU> kvothetech: this guy says 30% http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=111482
[05:15] <Dewi> the exact amount depends on how much of your code is storing things like integers, versus other blocks of RAM
[05:15] <WeThePeople> what dir. does a tar.gz go
[05:15] <kvothetech> Dewi: yeah but that's implying you're running a ton of shitty scripts that don't allocate memory etc properly...
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  what are you wanting to know? :) i got the vm loaded
[05:16] <Dewi> kvothetech: what's shitty about storing ints?
[05:16] <switching> mewtini weird that it dled the 64 then
[05:16] <Dewi> Dr_willis: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test  -p
[05:16] <SIFTU> kvothetech: so you didnt read it at all
[05:16] <Mewtini> switching does it autodetect??
[05:16] <Mewtini> I haven't used Wubi in forever, so...
[05:16] <Dewi> Dr_willis: what renderer and version does that say you have?
[05:16] <switching> mewtini it's only temporary until i get a new comp
[05:17] <Mewtini> ah
[05:17] <switching> dont judge me lol
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  chroomium 1.9
[05:17] <Mewtini> switching I found this bit, which is why I'm not sure; "I do not think there were any 64bit P4s made, I could be wrong though."
[05:17] <Dewi> Dr_willis: cool, that's what I get too. It runs okay but not particularly well.
[05:18] <SIFTU> kvothetech: here is an ubuntu example http://askubuntu.com/questions/7034/what-is-the-difference-between-32-bit-and-64-bit-and-which-should-i-choose
[05:18] <Dewi> Dr_willis: I will try the gnome 3 one, maybe this host simply can't do decent 3d emulation
[05:18] <Dewi> Dr_willis: thanks for checking that
[05:18] <bcbc2> switching: wubi doesn't download 64bit for 32bit pcs.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  you did check the 3d enable box in the vbox settings? ;) and installed the  vbox guest stuff?
[05:18] <Mewtini> bcbc2 that's weird, then!
[05:18] <switching> mewtini its a pentium 4 524
[05:18] <bcbc2> switching: what's the make/model?
[05:18] <SIFTU> kvothetech: so I guess I was wrong, it's 30%ish less
[05:18] <Mewtini> switching huh! no F in its name?
[05:19] <Dewi> Dr_willis: yeah it was way worse before I did that, when it was using llvmpipe
[05:19] <Dewi> Dr_willis: so it definitely seems to have picked up the 3c
[05:19] <Dewi> 3d even