[09:12] <jackpeterfletch> Hey guys
[12:21] <rick_h_> Makyo: what's this doc branch that you manually landed with the one line "This branch in particular..."?
[12:22] <rick_h_> Makyo: oic, you merged it into a branch of the juju/juju-gui
[12:36] <Makyo> rick_h_: yeah, sorry about that.  That's our networking prototype branch, sorry you're getting notifications :/  We can maybe move to my fork if need be.
[12:41] <rick_h_> Makyo: that's ok, I just missed the diff branch and it went by the lander so was checking it out
[13:33] <benji> frankban: do you have a second to review a small branch? https://codereview.appspot.com/49030043
[13:34] <frankban> benji: sure
[13:34] <benji> thanks
[13:43] <frankban> benji: the code looks good. what happens if you still pass "fullscreen" to the GUI? is it just ignored? does it fallback to the default (sidebar)? I am worried about existing deployments, like jc.com, and I believe we should update the instructions in https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/WebOps/CDO/JujuGui
[13:44] <benji> frankban: both good points, I'll investigate the first and write down a TODO for the second
[13:45] <rick_h_> frankban: the config parameter is still part of the config-debug/prod.js. The code in the gui ignores it though and it should be removed
[13:46] <rick_h_> frankban: benji the deployment notes need update and the current deployment needs to have webops request the value get changed first I believe
[13:46] <benji> rick_h_: thanks for the info
[13:48] <frankban> benji: great thanks.
[13:49] <frankban> rick_h_: does it mean that also 'sidebar' and 'minimized' are ignored?
[13:49]  * rick_h_ goes to pull up the code real quick
[13:50] <rick_h_> frankban: so the code in the gui ignores the setting entirely
[13:50] <rick_h_> frankban: but the config is still defined in the config-app/prod files. So yes, all values for that setting are ignored
[13:51] <frankban> benji: ^^^ so if this is the desired behavior maybe we should just remove the option entirely from the charm too
[13:52] <benji> frankban: yeah, I suppose so; the card just specified "fullscreen" but it sounds like (and I will verify) that the configuration paramiter itself should go away.
[13:52] <frankban> benji, rick_h_: cool thank you
[14:30] <benji> man, it's still cold out there; I demand warmer weather
[15:12] <luca_> rick_h_: just heard you have a 4k monitor. You have now been labelled as a man of extremes.
[15:12] <rick_h_> luca_: no sense playing with things half way :)
[15:12] <luca_> rick_h_: rofl
[15:12] <rick_h_> I like my command lines pretty and clear :)
[15:12] <luca_> rick_h_: haha
[15:13] <luca_> rick_h_: how awesome is it?
[15:13] <rick_h_> luca_: quite awesome
[15:14] <rick_h_> luca_: took a little config though http://uploads.mitechie.com/current_status.png
[15:14] <luca_> rick_h_: do you have a powerful enough computer to properly utilise it? by properly utilise it I mean play bf4 or something similar on full spec....
[15:15] <rick_h_> luca_: I've not tried steam on it. I've got an nviidia 660ti which will run it over display port 1.2 at 60hz
[15:15] <luca_> rick_h_: jeez, impressive stuff
[15:15] <rick_h_> luca_: I'd expect to be able to run a game, not at 100+fps
[15:15] <rick_h_> but usable
[15:15] <luca_> rick_h_: yeah
[15:15] <rick_h_> I tried some youtube 4k video samples
[15:15] <rick_h_> pretty stuff
[15:16] <luca_> rick_h_: what size is it?
[15:16] <bac> huh rietveld won't give you the Green Seal of Approval if you self review.  boo.
[15:16] <rick_h_> 24"
[15:16] <luca_> rick_h_: nice
[15:16] <rick_h_> bac: yea
[15:16] <gary_poster> 6 feet x 8 feet
[15:16] <gary_poster> It's a Fahrenheit 451 tv wall
[15:16] <luca_> gary_poster: lol
[15:16] <rick_h_> hah
[15:17] <luca_> gary_poster: you reminded me! Can I get comment permissions on the doc you sent earlier?
[15:17] <rick_h_> If it was 27" it'd be cool I think, but I don't want much more than that
[15:17] <bac> rick_h_: which did you get?
[15:17] <rick_h_> http://www1.la.dell.com/bz/en/corp/peripherals/dell-up2414q/pd.aspx?refid=dell-up2414q&s=corp
[15:17] <gary_poster> luca_: done, for you and ale
[15:18] <luca_> gary_poster: thanks, I'll give it a read through. Is there anything that I should specifically look at?
[15:19] <bac> gary_poster: 2.b.ii. stops in mid
[15:19] <gary_poster> luca_: <shrug> not really.  This is an attempt to guess at a lot of things that have not been spelled out.
[15:19] <gary_poster> luca_: and for the the three new projects, we have specs for you for two and the third won't be explicitly exposed at first
[15:19] <gary_poster> specs from you, I mean
[15:20] <gary_poster> bac, thank you, fixed
[15:21] <luca_> gary_poster: yeah, I see
[15:50] <gary_poster> jujugui call in 10
[15:53] <rick_h_> jujugui does anyone have a "this is awesome" pattern for doing logging in python cli scripts?
[15:53] <hazmat> rick_h_, depends on what your looking for
[15:53] <hazmat> rick_h_, dictConfig makes things pretty simple
[15:54] <rick_h_> hazmat: yea, just feels like repeating the wheel to add a argparse -v and deal with logging config to allow going into verbose and such.
[15:54] <hazmat> rick_h_, simple to type it up as yaml.load("""\) that's if you want something pretty
[15:55] <rick_h_> looks like quickstart just using logging.basicConfig with a couple of tweaks
[15:55] <hazmat> rick_h_, fair enough i typically just on verbose set level=logging.DEBUG on basicConfig
[15:55] <rick_h_> hazmat: yea, guess it's not that much to setup the logging and change the level.
[15:55] <rick_h_> hazmat: thanks
[15:55] <hazmat> and if using dictConfig, just post config grab root logger and set level for verbose
[15:55] <hazmat> cheers
[15:58] <gary_poster> jujugui call in 2
[16:22] <bac> gary_poster: release to production done and heartbeat shows happiness.
[16:23] <gary_poster> bac, yay!  thanks
[16:23] <bac> gary_poster: going to lunch now but will need new task when i return.  let me know if you have something to suggest.
[16:23] <gary_poster> ack
[16:25] <rick_h_> gary_poster: back home on real interwebs
[16:25] <gary_poster> ack
[16:26] <gary_poster> rick_h_: come on by: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/Z2FyeS5wb3N0ZXJAY2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbQ.j0rk5d371ph8331ijtf48t2uj0
[16:38] <benji> frankban: does this charm ftest failure look familiar? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6715682/
[16:40] <gary_poster> hey frankbanready in https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/Z2FyeS5wb3N0ZXJAY2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbQ.j0rk5d371ph8331ijtf48t2uj0 whenever. no rush
[16:40] <frankban> benji: that could mean a newer version of firefox does not work well with the selenium version we are using
[16:40] <gary_poster> frankban, I mean
[16:40] <frankban> gary_poster: joining
[16:41] <benji> frankban: I'll run the tests on a clean checkout and see if it reoccurs there
[16:45] <gary_poster> frankban: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpi0lc0etbof2h2ahv9kcd18 if that helps
[18:05] <rick_h_> heh, backup is 655MB :/ though ran and uploaded in 8min. Love cloud storage though. That'll be less then $2/mo with one backup a day
[18:13] <bac> rick_h_:  you got any pre-imp-ish thoughts on bug 1263112 ?
[18:13] <_mup_> Bug #1263112: charmworld proof and ingest does not properly support inheriting bundles <charmworld:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263112>
[18:13] <bac> rick_h_: it would take me all day to upload that backup file.  :(
[18:14] <rick_h_> bac: I think I can remember enough to walk you through it if you want
[18:16] <bac> rick_h_: i'm ok winging it but thought i'd ask before starting.  problem statement is clear.
[18:16] <rick_h_> bac: right, the general thing is that charmworld ingest seems to support it
[18:16] <rick_h_> bac: and we shared some logic with the deployer that supports it
[18:17] <rick_h_> bac: but when the proof bits were written we had no examples and I didn't understand it so kind of skipped the feature
[18:17] <rick_h_> bac: so any changes should just be in the proof bits in charmworld or the proof library in order to allow ingest to accept the inheritance based bundles
[18:18] <rick_h_> bac: and I found one from hazmat that's attached to the bug as a narly example. If that one ingests then everything should be good
[18:18] <rick_h_> bac: I believe that demo file works with the deployer, so we need to make sure it'll ingest
[18:18] <bac> rick_h_: great extra info.  thanks.
[18:51] <hatch> Makyo ping
[18:52] <Makyo> Yo
[18:53] <jcastro> hey rick_h_
[18:53] <jcastro> https://jujucharms.com/fullscreen/search/precise/mongodb-20/?text=mongodb
[18:53] <jcastro> if I change the description to be proper markdown
[18:53] <rick_h_> jcastro: party, looking
[18:53] <jcastro> will the bullets render properly?
[18:54] <rick_h_> jcastro: depends. We do some custom css to make non-markdown bullets ok
[18:54] <rick_h_> jcastro: so not sure, worth a try
[18:54] <jcastro> ok
[18:54] <jcastro> I can do whichever when I review the bullets
[18:54] <jcastro> I'll try real markdown
[18:54] <jcastro> will a blank line in the metadata.yaml fly?
[18:55] <rick_h_> if proof says it's valid yaml should be fine
[18:55]  * rick_h_ isn't a yaml expert
[19:02] <jcastro> well it all passes proof
[19:02] <jcastro> so it must work fine. *g*
[19:03] <rick_h_> :)
[19:17] <benji> jcastro and rick_h_: YAML is a superset of JSON, so if it's cool in JSON you know it's cool in YAML
[19:17] <jcastro> ok so in a description I would escape \"
[19:45] <gary_poster> light table open-sourced: http://www.chris-granger.com/2014/01/07/light-table-is-open-source/ for py, js, css, clojure so far.  Nifty editor exploring new possibilities but also open source as opposed to ST.
[19:50] <rick_h_> jujugui quick review please of test cleanup https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/57/files qa is the fact that the tests still pass :)
[19:51] <gary_poster> on it
[19:52] <gary_poster> rick_h_: done :-)
[19:52] <rick_h_> thanks gary_poster
[19:52] <gary_poster> thank you!
[22:10] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:46] <hatch> hey huwshimi
[22:46] <hatch> hows it going?
[22:52] <huwshimi> hatch: Good thanks. Yourself? Enjoying London?
[22:54] <hatch> it's alright, it seems like people are afraid of the dark or something lol
[22:54] <hatch> nothing near as much happening as on last sprint
[22:56] <hatch> like out in the streets I mean
[22:56] <huwshimi> hah
[22:57] <hatch> might head into soho or something to see maybe if there is something going on there


[10:30] <IdleOne> Some peoples children....
[10:32] <bazhang> cluelessperson is a bit unpleasant
[10:33] <IdleOne> they could have atleast thanked you for being nice enough to google for them
[10:34] <bazhang> I felt the convo was straying far afield from the initial question, then asked them politely to go to the ot channel
[10:34] <IdleOne> yup I saw
[11:24] <bazhang> looks like he has managed to embroil most of the channel in his situation
 SquRoFL, They should have been sued out of their minds for buying youtube, and forcing everyone to full accounts on another service.  That should be considered some sort of fraud.
[11:37] <bazhang> yeah thats totally on topic
[11:49] <bazhang> * SquRoFL<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left
[11:49] <bazhang> complete nonsense as "support"


[00:31] <tribalzen> Hello everyone
[06:26] <jrussouw> hi all
[06:30] <jrussouw> i am using ubuntu 18.04.2 is it worth to upgrade to 18.10
[07:19] <jrussouw> ok thx i pay a lot for data in south africa and my system is very good to me
[07:37] <mxm> Bonjour
[07:38] <apt-ghetto> Bonjour, s'il te plaît utilise l'anglais.
[07:40] <mxm> OH sorry I thought it was a french speaking chan
[07:41] <mxm> (but now that you say it....
[07:42] <apt-ghetto> No problem, we have a spanish and portuguese support channel, if you prefer it over english
[07:42] <mxm> English will do :)
[19:11] <player1> hi guys
[19:12] <player1> I installed lubuntu to an old laptop,but when I boot I see a white screen and I can move cursor,nothing else appears on screen
[19:12] <player1> how to fix this?
[19:14] <player1> anyone has any idea about my problem?
[19:17] <player1> hey guys anyone has lubuntu 18 10+
[19:18] <wxl> you probably have some video problem
 did you try pressing ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[19:18] <wxl> let's try to do some really quick thing.. hit ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7.. does it help?
[19:27] <player1> wxl now i reinstall lubuntu 18.10
[19:27] <player1> it takes time
[19:27] <player1> should I click control alt F1 or continue install?
[19:28] <wxl> well there's no use bothering with that until you have an install from which to check
[19:28] <wxl> tests don't produce good results when you mess up all the variables
[19:29] <player1> wxl do you know  a good browser for lubuntu 18.10?
[19:29] <player1> I used mozilla but it is very slow
[19:29] <player1> and video dont play well
[19:29] <wxl> it's as fast as any other modern browser
[19:30] <wxl> ALL modern browsers are ultimately slow because the modern web requires a ridiculous amount of resources
[19:30] <diogenes_> player1, try falkon.
[19:30] <player1> ok thanks
[19:30] <wxl> falkon is an up and coming solution
[19:30] <diogenes_> the best so far.
[19:30] <wxl> we were originally going to include it in 18.10 but had several problems that kept us from doing so
[19:31] <player1> when I install lubuntu should I see any message on screen? I see a dark conslole window says Lubuntu installer and nothing appears inside this window
[19:32] <player1> is it normal?
[19:32] <wxl> it doesn't sound normal
[19:32] <wxl> can you take a picture?
[19:33] <player1> no
[19:33] <wxl> with a phone maybe/
[19:33] <player1> I installed already the lubuntu and I reinstall it
[19:33] <diogenes_> player1, what distro had installed prior to lubuntu?
[19:34] <player1> lubuntu 18.10 and reinstall 18.10
[19:34] <player1> over it
[19:34] <player1> I use live dvd
[19:34] <player1> to replace partition
[19:34] <diogenes_> so lubuntu is the first distro on this hdd?
[19:34] <player1> yes
[19:34] <diogenes_> and why did you re-install?
[19:35] <player1> because lubuntu 18.10 was showing a white screen and a cursor after reboot
[19:35] <player1> and nothing else
[19:35] <player1> so I used the live DVD to boot
[19:35] <diogenes_> but it did boot in live mode properly?
[19:35] <player1> yes
[19:36] <diogenes_> and did it update while installing?
[19:36] <wxl> did you check the hashes of the iso? and did you check it for defects when booting?
[19:36] <diogenes_> you had internet connection?
[19:36] <player1> I didn t have internet so I moved pc somewhere with internet
[19:36] <player1> now I pressed install Lubuntu and wait
[19:36] <player1> to see what happens
[19:36] <diogenes_> player1, install it without internet because some updates might have altered it.
[19:37] <player1> I go to eat now
[20:11] <player1> ok guys I finished reinstalling
[20:11] <player1> now I try to reboot and says many errors
[20:11] <player1> I wait to be fixed
[20:11] <wxl> did you check the hashes of the iso? and did you check it for defects when booting?
 Can you send a picture?
[20:12] <player1> now I boot
[20:12] <player1> I wait and see some messages
[20:12] <player1> and wait to boot
[20:12] <wxl> player1: did you check the hashes of the iso? and did you check it for defects when booting? if you don't answer the questions you're asked, it's hard for us to provide help.
[20:12] <player1> what is the hashes
[20:13] <player1> the iso is ok
[20:13] <player1> Idont know what are the hashes
[20:13] <wxl> how do you know that the iso is ok?
[20:13] <wxl> how did you check it?
[20:13] <player1> I installed it
[20:14] <player1> and says everything ok
[20:14] <player1> but now it says SQUASHFS error: etc etc
[20:14] <wxl> that's not checking it
[20:14] <player1> what is squashfs error
[20:15] <player1> it says this
[20:15] <wxl> note the warning here:
[20:15] <wxl> https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/1.1/retrieving_the_image.html#downloading-the-image-via-http
[20:15] <wxl> that's checking the hashes of the iso
[20:16] <wxl> and then here is the option to check the disc for defects:
[20:16] <wxl> https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/1.3/installation.html#starting-the-installer
[20:16] <wxl> as the warning says, ONE BIT of variation can lead to all sorts of weird problems no one else has (and no one else has squashfs errors)
[20:17] <player1> I used same image I think to another pc
[20:17] <player1> I am not sure if it was the same
[20:17] <wxl> that means little
[20:18] <player1> but live dvd boots ok without any problems
[20:18] <player1> now i try to boot without live dvd
[20:18] <wxl> that means little
[20:18] <player1> to see
[20:18] <player1> I wait to boot
[20:18] <player1> same problem a white screen
[20:18] <wxl> follow the instructions to check the iso and to check the media
[20:18] <player1> and a mouse cursor
[20:18] <wxl> do that first
[20:19] <player1> I dont think I have an iso file I burned it to liveDVD and deleted it
[20:20] <player1> maybe if I search
[20:20] <wxl> you can at least do the check disc for defects
[20:23] <player1> wxl I did chkdsk and said found no errors
[20:23] <wxl> player1: you mean you booted the image and selected "check disc for defects?"
[20:23] <player1> yes
[20:24] <player1> from live dvd
[20:24] <player1> I choosed
[20:24] <player1> check disk for defects
[20:24] <player1> and said no errors found
[20:25] <player1> now I see a white screen and a cursor, I can move cursor
[20:26] <wxl> this is in the live system?
[20:26] <player1> no
[20:26] <player1> I booted
[20:26] <player1> without live
[20:26] <player1> and it is a white screen and a cursor
[20:26] <wxl> and if you do ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7?
[20:26] <player1> then there is a terminal
[20:27] <player1> all screen
[20:27] <player1> without prompt
[20:27] <player1> it is an underscore blinking
[20:27] <player1> and no text
[20:27] <wxl> when you go to ctrl-alt-f1 is there a login screen?
[20:28] <player1> it is a white screen and a cursor I can move
[20:28] <wxl> when you hit ctrl-alt-f1??? the same with ctrl-alt-f2?
[20:28] <player1> wait to see
[20:29] <player1> control alt f2 shows login:
[20:29] <wxl> ok login
[20:29] <wxl> then do `sudo service sddm restart`
[20:29] <wxl> does that get you to the login screen?
[20:30] <player1> again a white screen
[20:30] <player1> and a cursor I can move
[20:31] <player1> is there any way to stop xrandr or something/
[20:31] <player1> that shows white screen
[20:33] <player1> when I click contrl alt f2 it has a terminal full screen, I typed ls -la
[20:33] <player1> it works
[20:34] <player1> should I type something in terminal?
[20:35] <player1> I typed sudo apt-get update
[20:35] <player1> wait to finish
[20:36] <player1> now I typed sudo apt-get upgrade and wait
[20:36] <player1> to finish
[20:37] <player1> maybe it downloads the missing files
[20:39] <player1> I wait if this fixes my laptop
[20:42] <player1> is there a way to install latest linux kernel for 32bit by command line?
[20:44] <player1> ok it downloads a lot of missing packages, maybe it will work later
[20:45] <player1> I will wait to finish
[20:45] <player1> the control alt f2 was the solution
[21:00] <player1> wxl there was a message and said continue without installing grub and I pressed ok, is it good or bad not to install grub?
[21:01] <player1> in fact I wanted to install grub but i pressed ok
[21:01] <player1> I didnt know how to choose different
[21:05] <player1> I have linux kernel 4.18, should i install a later version/
[21:05] <player1> ?
[21:08] <player1> my terminal works ok but my gui has only a white screen
[21:08] <player1> what should I download to fix gui
[21:19] <wxl> player1: sorry got pulled away from my desk. do you have an internet connection?
[21:19] <player1> yes
[21:19] <player1> my terminal is working fine
[21:19] <player1> only my gui does not working
[21:20] <wxl> could you do `pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log && pastebinit -i /var/log/syslog` and give me the resulting urls?
[21:20] <player1> I type this in terminal?
[21:20] <wxl> also i just want to be 100% clear: you DO NOT see a login screen, right?
[21:20] <wxl> yes
[21:20] <wxl> it will return two urls
[21:21] <player1> I dont see a login screen in gui only a white screen
[21:23] <player1> in terminal I typed only the first line before &&  and says
[21:24] <player1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SK7TGb9zmH/
[21:24] <player1> wait the second
[21:25] <wxl> the && would have done them all together but whatever XD
[21:26] <wxl> wth???? [   187.091] (II) RADEON(0): Setting screen physical size to 338 x 211
[21:26] <player1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rBJwhqHHXG/
[21:27] <player1> how to fix this
[21:28] <wxl> i don't know. that's the world's smallest screen hahahha
[21:28] <player1> my screen is 15'' widescreen
[21:31] <wxl> player1: do you know how to add kernel parameters in grub?
[21:32] <player1> no I could not install grub
[21:32] <player1> I pressed ok continue without install grub
[21:32] <wxl> um well then it wouldn't boot at all X'''''''D
[21:32] <wxl> anyways when you're booting hold down shift and see if you don't get to a grub screen
 Mostly he won't right. He selected to not install grub. Or is there any magic going on here? XD
[21:34] <wxl> so what bootloader is there going to be? the magic wizard gandalf maybe
[21:35] <player1> wait
[21:35] <player1> I will reboot
[21:35] <wxl> whoa https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/376
[21:35] <lynorian> rebooting without a bootloader is not a good idea
[21:36] <player1> wxl I have a grub screen
 @wxl [<wxl> so what bootloader is there going to be? the magic wizard gandalf maybe], I would prefer dumbledore
[21:36] <wxl> player1: great :) so do you know how to add kernel parameters?
[21:37] <player1> no what should I type
 @player1 [<player1> wxl I have a grub screen], Woah! The magic of walter!! Everyone. Bend the knee.
 @player1 [<player1> no what should I type], There should be instruction to edit the commands. I guess you will have to press e
[21:38] <wxl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/19486/how-do-i-add-a-kernel-boot-parameter
 Then add 'nomodeset' before --quiet. Without inverted commas.
 @wxl [<wxl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/19486/how-do-i-add-a-kernel-boot-parameter], Yeah follow this. Easier.
[21:39] <wxl> oh this one is even better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:41] <player1> wxl grub has 4 options
 4? Is your system in dual boot?
[21:43] <player1> *Ubuntu    Advanced Options for Ubuntu  MemTest86+, memtest86+,serial console 115200
 Can you name which is the 3rd option?
 Ohh okay. Fine.
 Edit the 1st option.
 @wxl [<wxl> oh this one is even better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions], Follow this.
[21:46] <player1> wxl I pressed e and I am stack what do I type next
[21:47] <player1> I dont know how to continue
 Stuck? Can't you edit lines of the option?
[21:51] <wxl> Go down to the line starting with linux and add: nomodeset
[21:54] <player1> wait a little because I pressed reboot and I must return to grub
[21:56] <player1> I cannot catch grub it goes to lubuntu fast
 try again :)
[21:56] <wxl> just reboot and bash shift
[22:01] <player1> ok I am in grub
[22:01] <player1> pressed e
[22:01] <player1> then where do I type nomodeset
 @wxl [<wxl> Go down to the line starting with linux and add: nomodeset], now this.
[22:01] <wxl> at the end
[22:02] <player1> after quiet splash res etc?
[22:03] <player1> I typed nomodeset in the end of line
[22:03] <player1> ok?
 yup! fine
[22:03] <player1> now what do Ido
 now boot it. There must be instruction at bottom
[22:04] <player1> control x?
 yeah!
[22:04] <player1> ok I pressed control x and wait to reboot
 see if this gives also gives white screen
[22:06] <player1> no
[22:06] <player1> this logins
[22:06] <player1> perfect
[22:06] <player1> goes to login screen
[22:06] <player1> now how to fix my resolution?
 That's it then. but you will have to make the change permanent. wxl will tell you how to do it.
 @player1 [<player1> now how to fix my resolution?], There must be an option in monitor settings for fixing resolution.
[22:13] <player1> ok I think nomodeset was the problem
[22:13] <player1> the solution I mean
[22:14] <player1> now if I reboot it will be lost?
[22:14] <wxl> no let's make it permanent
[22:15] <player1> oh I rebooted again and I lost nomodeset
[22:15] <wxl> you have to make it permanent
[22:15] <wxl> it's ok
[22:15] <player1> I must reboot again with nomodeset
[22:15] <wxl> you don't HAVE to
[22:15] <wxl> you could also go to ctrl-alt-f2 at the white screen to do what we need to do
[22:15] <player1> ok
[22:15] <player1> I m in terminal now
[22:16] <wxl> one second
[22:16] <wxl> good we ship nano
[22:16] <wxl> so do this:
[22:16] <wxl> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[22:16] <wxl> that should open up a file
[22:17] <player1> ok I am in
[22:17] <wxl> go to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line
[22:17] <wxl> and add nomodeset to the end
[22:17] <wxl> so you should have something like:
[22:17] <wxl> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[22:18] <player1> nomodeset before resume?
[22:18] <wxl> or after
[22:19] <player1> ok I added in the end
[22:19] <wxl> now hit ctrl-x
[22:19] <wxl> it will ask you if you want to save.. say yes
[22:19] <wxl> then run:
[22:19] <wxl> sudo update-grub
[22:19] <wxl> and when that's done:
[22:19] <wxl> sudo shutdown -r now
[22:22] <player1> now how can I see my native resolution and set it as default?
 just go to monitor settings and change there.
[22:23] <player1> where are the monitor settings?
 in the menu at the bottom left
[22:24] <wxl> https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.10/monitor_settings.html
[22:24] <player1> ok I ll try to find
 @wxl [<wxl> https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.10/monitor_settings.html], This link will be helpful
[22:25] <player1> is there any command line way
[22:26] <wxl> not the easiest of ones XD
 type 'lxqt-config-monitor' in terminal without quotes
 Also wxl how are you so good with links? I was just typing menu>preferences>monitor settings and in the meantime you came up with the appropriate link from manual!! How do you do it?
[22:28] <wxl> cuz i know that @lynorian has documented almost everything XD
[22:30] <player1> now i want to change language in English/greek with alt-shift
 wxl Sure she has and deserves credit but you being so easy and fast with link that's magic for me. *Bends the knee*
 @player1 [<player1> now i want to change language in English/greek with alt-shift], https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.8/keyboard_and_mouse.html
 Also player1 don't always keep asking everything bro. Just google up a bit you will find all your answers. Not meaning that don't come to this chat but try to workout small things language and resolutions on your own sometimes. It's fun.
[22:35] <wxl> heh XD
[22:35] <player1> ok thanks a lot
[22:35] <wxl> don't listen to him player1.. it's ok to ask here
[22:35] <player1> you solved me my white screen
[22:35] <wxl> BUT it is fun to figure it out yourself :)
 @wxl [<wxl> BUT it is fun to figure it out yourself :)], +1
[22:51] <player1> ok now I install falcon
[22:52] <wxl> fal*K*on
[23:14] <xpkill23> hi
[23:15] <player1> can I add some programs in the down bar?
[23:16] <lynorian> player1 on the panel you mean
[23:16] <xpkill23> which prgramm can testing hardware
[23:16] <xpkill23> wait
[23:16] <lynorian> drag the programs to the quick launch area from the hardware
[23:17] <wxl> xpkill23: whatcha wanna test?
[23:18] <player1> ok I use falkon
[23:18] <xpkill23> hardware
[23:18] <player1> my screen is 1024x768 but it still looks stretched
[23:18] <wxl> xpkill23: what hardware?
[23:19] <xpkill23> cpu
[23:20] <xpkill23> besste lubuntu
[23:20] <wxl> !info stress | xpkill23
[23:20] <xpkill23> thank you very much
[23:20] <wxl> np
[23:21] <xpkill23> name pack
[23:22] <wxl> stress
[23:22] <xpkill23> play test command
[23:23] <xpkill23> newbie
[23:23] <wxl> open the terminal
[23:23] <wxl> read the manpage:
[23:23] <wxl> man stress
[23:24] <xpkill23> man in another language
[23:24] <wxl> it's a linux command
[23:24] <xpkill23> pack in
[23:24] <wxl> it doesn't come in another language
[23:24] <xpkill23> englisch
[23:24] <wxl> just like "ls" is only ever "ls"
[23:26] <wxl> here's a more extensive explanation https://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/11/stress-test-your-ubuntu-computer-with-stress/
[23:27] <xpkill23> thankl you
[23:31] <xpkill23> command test
[23:31] <xpkill23> simple
[23:32] <wxl>  1. find the number of cores you have
[23:32] <wxl>  2. stress -c n
[23:33] <wxl> where n is the number of course you have
[23:35] <xpkill23> one
[23:35] <wxl> stress -c 1
[23:37] <xpkill23> stress: FAIL: [3840] (244) unrecognized option: -cpu
[23:38] <npo> it's -c not -cpu
[23:38] <xpkill23> stress: info: [3842] dispatching hogs: 1 cpu, 0 io, 0 vm, 0 hdd
[23:38] <npo> now your computer should be getting hogged
[23:44] <xpkill23> nice
[23:54] <xpkill23>  result ?
[23:56] <npo> you tell us :)?


[18:25] <thewoolleyman> anyone home?
[18:46] <thewoolleyman> how can I tell upstart to call a stop script which is different than a start script?  e.g. start is /bin/start-myservice and stop is /bin/stop-myservice?
[18:48] <ion> pre-stop exec /bin/stop-myservice. But make sure Upstart actually tracks the process started by start-myservice. The easiest way is to make it not daemonize.
[18:49] <thewoolleyman> ion: if I make it not daemonize upstart will keep track of the process?
[18:49] <ion> Yes. And if you add a respawn stanza, Upstart will also restart it if it dies.
[18:57] <thewoolleyman> ion: the docs are extremely unhelpful on that.
[18:58] <thewoolleyman> ion: so what does the stop action do by default?
[18:59] <thewoolleyman> ion: how does it know what to stop and how?
[19:02] <ion> It runs the pre-stop command, if any, then sends SIGTERM to the main pid, then sends SIGKILL if it’s still running after a timeout and finally runs the post-stop command, if any.
[19:02] <ion> The main pid being the one “status jobname” prints.
[19:06] <thewoolleyman> ion: ok, thanks.  the docs don't make that clear at all.  where should I submit a doc bug/patch?
[19:06] <ion> https://launchpad.net/upstart
[19:16] <thewoolleyman> ion: thanks a lot for your help.


[15:19] <mrnbuntu> Anyone about?
[15:19] <mrnbuntu> I'm having a issue installing Ubuntu. After about 5 seconds or booting u
[15:19] <mrnbuntu> up*
[15:20] <mrnbuntu> and seeing the white on black text loading drivers ect..
[15:20] <mrnbuntu> it will get stuck on loading one of the USB dri
[15:21] <mrnbuntu> drivers*