[09:51] <j-dawg> dgjones: sorry to sound ignorant, but what do repositories do/mean? (new to all this)
[09:51] <dgjones> !repo | j-dawg
[09:51] <ubotu> j-dawg: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:51] <quantum_haxx> mikess: quite a few:P  you can try Sidux (runs kdelite), OpenSuse doesnt have a liveCD, however might work, PuppyLinux, Xubuntu (in case it has to do with the gnome interface)
[09:52] <quantum_haxx> mikess: otherwise it's really just a test, so choose any distro you feel like trying
[09:52] <DerangedDingo> j-dawg: they're a ton of packages hosted on ubuntu servers, and a few programs in ubuntu (Synaptic, apt-get, Add/Remove, aptitude) fetch the packages from the server and install them
[09:52] <mikess> does apt-get work with any other distro?
[09:52] <mikess> cause i really like the easy packages :D
[09:53] <quantum_haxx> mikess: all distros have something like apt-get but for example suse uses yast, fedora core uses yum, and some others use aptitude (or apt-get)
[09:53] <|Stevie|> morgen zusammen
[09:53] <quantum_haxx> mikess: might be best to google for a few, because i can't tell you off the top of my head which use what:P
[09:53] <ChrisGibbs> anyone had a play with dmraid? My computer breaks after I install it. I have 1 x 80Gb drive and 2 x 320Gb (RAID0) Ubuntu is on 80Gb drive. The mount after GRUB fails because the device is busy.... any ideas?? Im almost at my wits end with it :(
[09:53] <Shnozberrie> oo yum sounds good
[09:54] <dgjones> j-dawg, this looks an easy way to install IE.. on ubuntu, I've not used it for a while, but was easy when I did it last year http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Ubuntu
[09:54] <mikess> actually is there a way you can stop x from loading on startup so i can see if X is the problem, and if it is try to install video drivers like that?
[09:54] <quantum_haxx> mikess: that's basically what the recovery console is
[09:54] <jetscreamer> you can chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[09:55] <quantum_haxx> mikess: or follow jetscreamer's option
[09:55] <mikess> yea but me eth wont work in the recovery console for some reason
[09:55] <jetscreamer> or backup and empty out /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:56] <mikess> what chmod value would i put to enable it again?
[09:56] <jetscreamer> +x
[09:56] <jetscreamer> eXecutable
[09:56] <mikess> ill give that a try
[09:56] <quantum_haxx> mikess: x makes a file executable, and - or + adds or removes it
[09:56] <quantum_haxx> jetscreamer: beat me to it:P
[09:56] <chol> hey all, i tried to change so that xrdb won't run the broken(?) mcpp but -nocpp or -cpp /usr/bin/cpp, to get a fully working .Xresources, found three places but startx still runs it with mcpp, where else could this be changed?
[09:57] <Shnozberrie> Are all updates good to get? (pre-released, unsupported) -- i dont plan to ask for support, i'm just wondering if its reliable
[09:57] <mikess> ha well thanks for all the help guys greatly appreciated
[09:57] <quantum_haxx> mikess: no problem, hope we helped
[09:58] <chibong> can anyone tell me the difference between xgl and aiglx
[09:58] <quantum_haxx> shnozberrie: generally updates from the update manager are pretty reliable
[09:58] <Shnozberrie> Thanks quantum_haxx.
[09:59] <quantum_haxx> no problem
[09:59] <sluimers> oiiii, I have a USB microphone that I want to work on Ubuntu, it's the microphone from the karaoke revolution game. Ubuntu sees the microphone in the volme control, but I still get no sound from it.
[10:00] <Shnozberrie> I noticed that lots of the repository reccomendations from within ubuntu have a "popularity" rating. Is there anyway to see data like that through apt-cache search? or a place to search repos by popularity (and search critera of course)
[10:02] <bullgard4> What does 'fg' for in the fgconsole command?
[10:02] <quantum_haxx> shnozzberrie: well, popularity just is how many times it was downloaded and installed.  If you need a specific tool, always best to go by the description of what you need it to do, and i don't actually know about any popularity ratings other than those in add/remove
[10:02] <bullgard4> What does 'fg' stand for in the fgconsole command?
[10:03] <Eddietop> fg resumes a background job
[10:03] <sluimers> anyone?
[10:04] <sluimers> I'l repeat for the just joined then..I have a USB microphone that I want to work on Ubuntu, it's the microphone from the karaoke revolution game. Ubuntu sees the microphone in the volume control, but I still get no sound from it.
[10:04] <misc--> hello, how does one play blue-ray files?
[10:04] <quantum_haxx> sluimers:  have you gone to the "switches" tab and enabled line-in?
[10:04] <Shnozberrie> I mean for example if I search gstreamer I get Gstreamer-ugly gstreamer-good blah blah.  So i would have liked to go for the popular vote
 Check the device if it is loaded as module
[10:05] <neo__> lsmod
[10:05] <quantum_haxx> shnozberrie: those packages have different tools and so, pick the one that has what you need
[10:05] <bullgard4> Eddietop: Thank you for commenting.
[10:05] <neo__> try to load the module by hand : modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[10:08] <bullgard4> Shnozberrie: Gnome menu Applications > Add/Remove
[10:09] <sluimers> neo__, what should I look for in lsmod?
[10:09] <neo__> the modules: snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss
[10:09] <sluimers> I can see them in snd
[10:09] <neo__> if they are not present then load them mannualy
[10:10] <hbaolong> hello
[10:10] <hbaolong> hello
[10:10] <sluimers> neo__, They're present
[10:11] <sluimers> quantum_hxx, I don't see line-in in the switches tab.
[10:11] <neo__> then try the gnome-sound-properties
[10:11] <neo__> and select the correct devices
[10:11] <neo__> the microfone must be /dev/dsp
[10:14] <sluimers> neo__, ?? All I see is three tabs, I'm in the Device tab
[10:14] <jmhodges> hey is there a reason why i can apt-get source gpac but i can't apt-get install it?
[10:14] <neo__> select the sound effect as AutoDetect
[10:14] <jmhodges> i'm a little confused by that..
[10:15] <Pirate_Hunter> I have recently updated ubuntu after 3 weeks without using the comp and now I notice sluggishness, folders take a while to open or dont open at all (just hangs)... I want to know if this is a bug caused from the latest update or it might be something in my system "which i doubt"?
[10:15] <neo__> and the Sound Capture: ALSA -Advanced linux Sound Architecture
[10:15] <neo__> then try again your microfone
[10:16] <neo__> if not working then just change the Sound Capture: to OSS
[10:16] <neo__> if this does not work then the module does not work correctly for your device
[10:16] <neo__> and I think you have to recompile it
[10:16] <sluimers> neo__, okay, when I choose USB audio as sound capture, the microphone works, I get an error though
[10:17] <sluimers> for every sound capture choice
[10:17] <sluimers> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[10:18] <sluimers> and I get a message when I start sound properties:
[10:18] <sluimers> Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'.
[10:18] <sluimers> Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager.
[10:18] <crasher5> g
[10:19] <sluimers> Plus when I choose ALSA as sound capture, it crashes
[10:19] <neo__> try to install esound package: apt-get install esound
[10:19] <verb3k> Is there a way to increase the firefox tooltip timeout? (the text preview like in forums etc)  thanks in advance
[10:19] <neo__> and then reboot the machine
[10:20] <jmhodges> okay, barring that
[10:21] <sluimers> neo__, it's already installed
[10:21] <arthur37855> question? can you install new desktop themes in xbuntu?
[10:21] <neo__> do you have 2 mixers in teh Device Select box in the Default Mixer Tracks
[10:22] <neo__> ?
[10:22] <Pirate_Hunter> I have recently updated ubuntu after 3 weeks without using the comp and now I notice sluggishness, folders take a while to open or dont open at all (just hangs)... I want to know if this is a bug caused from the latest update or it might be something in my system "which i doubt"?
[10:22] <neo__> you must have there 2 mixers ALSA and OSS
[10:22] <neo__> try to change from ALSA to OSS
[10:23] <neo__> or if it is USB then you have to see there a USB device
[10:23] <sluimers> the microphone is USB yes, and I have ALSA and OSS yes
[10:23] <arthur37855> what kind of computer are you using? cpu? I have a 600mhz comp and I use xubuntu on it, runs better on slower computer
[10:24] <detedagowa> im having problems with my 7.10 installation i cannot figure out how to get the desktop effects working...forgot what its called
[10:24] <detedagowa> brain fart......4:24am:)
[10:25] <boinker> add remove advanced desktop
[10:25] <detedagowa> ??
[10:25] <detedagowa> what do youy mean?
[10:25] <neo__> try to install pulseaudio-esound-compat package
[10:25] <neo__> what version of ubuntu you have ?
[10:26] <boinker> anybody not getting sound from youtube?
[10:26] <detedagowa> 7.10
[10:26] <boinker> i installed the flash deb
[10:26] <sluimers> 7.10
[10:26] <believer> ?
[10:26] <sluimers> and I have to go, but thanks for helping neo__
[10:26] <jmhodges> okay, anyone kno whow to get mencoder on gutsy?  the only thing i can find is mediubuntu, and its packages are broken
[10:27] <neo__> give me the info from : lspci |grep -i audio
[10:27] <boinker> iyo im new to this irc chat crap in topic it says see << /msg ubotu flash i wanna know how to install flash properly
[10:27] <boinker> i dont understand what that means though
[10:27] <neo__> and the info from : dpkg -l |grep -i sound
[10:28] <boinker> can anyone tell me how to sucessfully install flash that plays sounds off youtube????
[10:28] <dgjones> !flash | boinker, This is what would happen if you typed "/msg ubotu flash" in the channel
[10:28] <ubotu> boinker, This is what would happen if you typed "/msg ubotu flash" in the channel: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:28] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:28] <believer> my amd64 5000+x2   on setup  flash9.0 and rar lib???
[10:28] <boinker> thanks when r they gonna have a fix for this flash? im tired of using windows
[10:28] <believer> my amd64 5000+x2   no setup  flash9.0 and rar lib
[10:30] <j-dawg> dgjones: Thanks! IE6 is now running....can't install google toolbar though...I guess beggers can't be choosers
[10:31] <dgjones> j-dawg, no probs, glad that does what you need anyway
[10:31] <arthur37855> can you install new desktop themes in xbuntu?
[10:31] <cin_> i need help with typo3 when i go to localhost/quickstart/ my browser show me just access denied i think something is wrong with the symlinks! plz help
[10:32] <detedagowa> when trying to get updates i get this"E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" what does this mean?
[10:32] <jmhodges> k, now i'm really baffled.  i've got restricted, universe, and multiverse in my repositories but i can't find liblame-dev in any of them
[10:33] <jmhodges> and main, of course
[10:33] <jmhodges> what th ehell am i missing?
[10:33] <dgjones> detedagowa, open a terminal window and run the command "dpkg --configure -a" thats what the update manager is saying you need to do
[10:33] <detedagowa> its needs a superuser
 then run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:34] <dgjones> detedagowa, in that case "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and enter your user password
[10:34] <jmhodges> argh, apt-get doesn't even see ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:35] <joyce> ae
[10:35] <Falgn0n> hey all
[10:35] <joyce> hey alll
[10:35] <Falgn0n> hey joyce
[10:36] <joyce> hay fal
[10:37] <joyce> wadow
[10:37] <Falgn0n> i wonder if anyone give me some advice?
[10:37] <Falgn0n> I need to setup a hotspot server on my ubuntu box
[10:38] <Falgn0n> (Hotcakes or something similiar
[10:38] <bazhang> for wireless Falgn0n?
[10:38] <Falgn0n> but the clients connecting are all usoing windows
[10:38] <Falgn0n> Yes, bazhang
[10:38] <murch> i keep having a problem navigating to newly created directories when i use the command line
[10:38] <murch> any one got any ideas
[10:39] <bazhang> Falgn0n: ubuntu gutsy? let me google for a moment
[10:39] <nikin> murch: can you describe the problem?
[10:39] <vlt> Hello. I got a load of "1.00 1.00 1.00" on a nearly idle machine. This is a vmstat line "1  0   7776  79244   7980  82032    0    0     0    12 1793   735  0  0 100  0". How can I find out what causes this suspicious exact load of 1.00? --output of `top`: http://pastebin.ca/844996
[10:39] <Falgn0n> yes - 7.10
[10:39] <murch> sure
[10:39] <khelll> i did modified /etc/hosts added this line <IP_ADDRESS> www.d1g.com home , went to firefox hitting home , is doing nothing !!!
[10:39] <murch> i have a directory in that i use for hellanzb downloads
[10:40] <boinker> is there anybody out there at all ANYONE that could link me directly to a very very simple site with simple instructions to install flash
[10:40] <murch> every time i start of a new download i can only access the directory above
  you must setup a VirtualHost in your webserver configuration
[10:41] <murch> ie home/gaz/usenet/done/
[10:41] <khelll> neo__ how?
[10:41] <Falgn0n> yes bazhang, gutsy (v 7.10)
[10:41] <neo__> what webserver do you use?
[10:41] <neo__> apache?
[10:41] <khelll> yes
[10:41] <murch> the folder i am trying to access is below done
[10:42] <xChipx> murch: if the new folder has spaces in it you need to escape them with \  or encapluate the hole name in quotes (")
[10:42] <nikin> vlt: top shows that your system is 98% idle... maxbe a problem in the program that calculates load...1.0 1.0 1.0 seems a bit strange for me
[10:42] <dgjones> boinker, have you tried opening synaptic and searching for "Gnash", I used that on a fresh install the other day and I've had no problems with flash websites, it might be a better option than flash until its fixed
[10:42] <murch> thing is i cant access any of the folders
[10:42] <neo__> open the file /etc/apache2/site.available
[10:43] <murch> even ones i could access before i start of hellanzb
[10:43] <nikin> murch: can you acces it as root?
[10:43] <murch> nikin: how would i do that
[10:43] <murch> sudo
[10:43] <xChipx> sudo cd my\ new\ folder
[10:43] <xChipx> or check the owner with ls -l
[10:43] <detedagowa> i wish i could get my desktop effects to work
[10:43] <murch> nope tried that
[10:44] <nikin> murch.. are you registered? can i PM you?
[10:44] <neo__> vim /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[10:44] <detedagowa> whats that thing like beryl called
[10:44] <vlt> nikin: Maybe there's a process waiting in the queue but never run. This load value is constant for at least 30 hours now.
[10:44] <murch> it wont let me ls the directory either
[10:44] <xChipx> ls the parent directory
[10:44] <xChipx> to see the permissions of the subdirs
[10:44] <cin_> detedagowa: u meancompiz?
[10:44] <murch> nikin: u should be able to
[10:44] <detedagowa> yes
[10:44] <murch> ta
[10:44] <nikin> vlt... a  wayting process should be shown in top not?
[10:44] <detedagowa> do i have to install compiz extra>?
[10:45] <cin_> hm
[10:45] <dgjones> !compiz | detedagowa
[10:45] <ubotu> detedagowa: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:45] <cin_> try with apt-get search gnome-compiz-manager
[10:45] <xChipx> murch: sudo chown <your_user_name> <foldername>
[10:45] <ferronica> how to disable windows XP to boot from ubuntu boot menu
[10:46] <nikin> asfar as i see on the pasted top page 1 running, 108 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[10:46] <Falgn0n> so bazhang, will it b fairly easy to set uop that server? wat do u think - I'm vERY new to linux
[10:46] <ferronica> so no one can boot Xp excluding me
[10:46] <vlt> nikin: I don't know exactly. Can you see anything in "top"?
[10:46] <newTruth> ferronica: chek /boot
[10:47] <neo__> at the end of that file add:
[10:47] <neo__> <VirtualHost *>
[10:47] <neo__>     ServerName www.yoururl.com
[10:47] <neo__>     DocumentRoot /path/to/htmlfiles
[10:47] <neo__>         <Directory />
[10:47] <neo__>                 Options FollowSymLinks
[10:47] <neo__>                 AllowOverride None
[10:47] <neo__>         </Directory>
[10:47] <ferronica> newTruth: what this will do
[10:47] <neo__>         <Directory /path/to/htmlfiles>
[10:47] <neo__>                 Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
[10:47] <neo__>                 AllowOverride None
[10:47] <dgjones> !paste > neo__
[10:47] <neo__>                 Order allow,deny
[10:47] <predaeus> !paste | neo__
[10:47] <ubotu> neo__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:47] <neo__>                 allow from all
[10:47] <nikin> neo__: pastebin is your friend
[10:47] <neo__>         </Directory>

[10:47] <bazhang> http://www.linux.com/articles/55617 Falgn0n here and one more just a moment
[10:47] <newTruth> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:47] <neo__> then restart the webserver sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:47] <nikin> murch: did you see my pm?
[10:48] <newTruth> ferronica /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:48] <bazhang> http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html Falgn0n here (with screenshots) :}
[10:48] <newTruth> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:48] <newTruth> there you can find all the entries from the boot menu
[10:48] <newTruth> you can reorder them change the timeout, remove any
[10:49] <nikin> vlt: when you use the system .. its responsive? so this load value doesnt make any problem in usage?
[10:49] <newTruth> make sure you make a backup in case you have to get back to the original
[10:49] <bazhang> Falgn0n: that what you were looking for?
[10:49] <vlt> nikin: All services seem to resond quite normally.
 i want to disable Xp from boot for security reason, from my elder bro
[10:50] <yusuo> ferrnoica delete it from the grub menu in that case
 can i comment # before
[10:50] <yusuo> keep a record and when ever you wanna boot into windows just re-add it
[10:50] <yusuo> its hastle but it'll dothe job
[10:51] <Falgn0n> sorry bazhang - i think i missed at u said?
[10:51] <j-dawg> what's a good VPN client to use?
[10:51] <Falgn0n> what am i looking for?
[10:51] <newTruth> ferronica: yep
[10:51] <newTruth> that's it
 double # for single
[10:51] <yusuo> # nulls the entry
[10:51] <newTruth> both work
 i wanna to hide it
[10:51] <bazhang> Falgn0n: does your keyboard have scroll capabilities? :}
[10:51] <vlt> j-dawg: What VPN server is it?
[10:52] <yusuo> ahh ok fair enough just add # to the line and it will skip the entry
[10:52] <vlt> j-dawg: OpenVPN?
[10:52] <Falgn0n> ok... bazhang, havin a look at those links...
[10:53] <newTruth> ferronica: all you do is comment out the section about windows ( near the end of the file)
 ok
[10:53] <bazhang> Falgn0n: it does not get clearer than that :}
[10:53] <detedagowa> mu nautilus just died how do i redo it
[10:54] <j-dawg> vlt: I guess...
[10:54] <j-dawg> are there other choices?
[10:55] <Falgn0n> bazhang - i'm not sure that's what I'm loking for - i need a billing & authentication system for a wireless hotspot, so users can buy credit online or over the counter (voucher) and log-in to the hotspot
[10:55] <vlt> j-dawg: If it's OpenVPN, install it on your machine, edit a/the client.conf file and you're done.
[10:55] <Falgn0n> I found "Hotcakes" at sourceforge, and I'm wonderin if i will will have problems using it if all the pc's connecting to the hotspot are windows based...
[10:56] <nikin> vlt  4685 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0  57:50.43 kcryptd/0  ...
[10:56] <o_aetos_ao> Sorry to be a beginer but i need help with the basics of linux
[10:56] <bazhang> Falgn0n: first you need to setup the server--the rest you can do after that--there are plenty of how tos for that though might not be ubuntu related strictly speaking (though you can try) best to first set up the server though
[10:56] <o_aetos_ao> can anyone help
[10:56] <j-dawg> vlt: tnx! trying it now
[10:57] <imyousuf> Hi
[10:57] <imyousuf> can some please point me to a good online resource on how-to on Xen server on Ubuntu server?
[10:58] <Falgn0n> ok - do u think i will need to install ubuntu server edition, or will this run on the desktop edition?
[10:59] <spark_> hoi
[11:00] <dgjones> !xen > imyousuf
[11:03] <murch> can someone pm me with some help with a weird command line issue im having
[11:03] <murch> ta
[11:03] <insane_alien> whats the issue
[11:04] <imyousuf> thank you dgjones
[11:04] <murch> command line acts like folders are not there
[11:04] <dgjones> imyousuf, your welcome
[11:04] <bullgard4> "$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic". Is 2.6.22 the 'kernel version', 14 the 'Debian packet version' and 'generic' the 'kernel subversion'? If so, what is a 'minor release' and a 'major release'?
[11:04] <murch> but i can browse to them np
[11:04] <insane_alien> hmm
[11:05] <insane_alien> never came across tha before
[11:05] <insane_alien> honestly have no ideas on it.
[11:05] <murch> yeh its pretty weird
[11:05] <murch> im a complete newb
[11:05] <Eyemean> hi, can i ask what the refereed mobo board usually is, asus or gigabyte, it would be a p35 mobo for overclocking a e2140
[11:05] <murch> this is my first day :)
[11:05] <insane_alien> i've been on it for years
[11:05] <murch> but im thinking it might be a bug
[11:05] <insane_alien> it just keeps getting better
[11:06] <naxa> hi
[11:06] <insane_alien> can you do a ls -l (those are lower case L's)
[11:06] <insane_alien> in the terminal
[11:06] <murch> no it returns nothing
[11:07] <insane_alien> so it doesn't see files either
[11:07] <murch> nope
[11:07] <naxa> is there a virtual cd program for ubuntu like daemon tools for windows? anything but simple mount -t iso9660 etc
[11:07] <gunja> naxa: Whats wrong with mount?
[11:07] <insane_alien> try 'cd /mount
[11:07] <insane_alien> '
[11:07] <naxa> gunja: there are so many image types, mount cannot handle all of them... i think at least... it says wrong fs typpe.
[11:07] <gunja> I think u can prolly mount through the GUI too
[11:08] <gunja> right
[11:08] <gunja> there are some, looked into it before, but most of me experience is command line
[11:08] <gunja> so I just use mount
[11:08] <naxa> ok but then what to do in this case? it says wrong fs type... there is an .img file, a .ccd and a .sub, i'm trying to mount the .img...
[11:09] <ozzloy> why doesn't this rename all files ending with *.AVI to end with *.AVI.asdf?  rename 's/\(*\)/\1.asdf/' *.AVI ???
[11:10] <naxa> any ideas? :(
[11:11] <opus> is there a FAR style file manager for ubuntu / linux?
[11:12] <naxa> opus: try "mc"
[11:12] <naxa> you can install it with the command "sudo apt-get install mc" written in a Terminal
[11:13] <opus> yes doing it, thanks
[11:13] <naxa> you're welcome
[11:13] <opus> my LCD samsung 226BW supports 60hz refresh rate, I am able to get max 51 in System -> Preferences -> Screen  Resolution, I have an entry in the xorg.conf "VertRefresh 60" any ideas what to do?
[11:13] <naxa> opus: also, try http://www.linuxalt.com/
[11:14] <naxa> far isn't listed but total commander is
[11:14] <opus> naxa, useful thanks
[11:14] <Xintruder> will a laptop with two 8600's work correctly? with ubuntu
[11:14] <naxa> you're welcome
[11:14] <bazzieb> is there a better firewall than firestarter? that also does DHCP and internet sharing??
[11:15] <jax27> i've attached my usb storage device but it isn't being detected, does anyone know what might be going wrong?
[11:15] <insane_alien> Xintruder define '8600's'
[11:15] <ChrisGibbs> anyone got a quick guide to booting in with the LiveCD and removing an application that is installed on the HD?? System wont load initfs is screwing up mounting
[11:15] <D_ReaL_PuNiShEr> \load -rs ircscan.mdm
[11:15] <Xintruder> nvidia 8600 card
[11:15] <D_ReaL_PuNiShEr> lol
[11:15] <Gyro54> Sound Juicer reports my new MediaVault as not a directory - any ideas. The directory it is located is smb://hpmediavault/MediaShare/music but shows as MediaShare/music on hpmediavault
[11:15] <insane_alien> yes it should work
[11:15] <naxa> i can't answer these baz,jax,chris sorry
[11:15] <D_ReaL_PuNiShEr> Where Gnut @ ?
[11:15] <naxa> bye
[11:15] <bazzieb> lol
[11:15] <bazzieb> cool
[11:16] <richardjc> anybody here have frets on fire?
[11:16] <root_> ciaooo
[11:16] <Xintruder> will a laptop with two 8600 nvidia graphic cards work well?
[11:16] <naxa> re
[11:16] <richardjc> anybody here have frets on fire?
[11:16] <richardjc> how can i seach for folders in ubuntu?
[11:17] <Yoric[DT]> hi
[11:17] <richardjc> its seems you can only earch for files
[11:17] <naxa> please could you help me. in advanced desktop effects settings i cannot enable a single plugin. i enable them but in the next move the system reverts them to disabled. i cannot do it help me please! thanks
[11:17] <zhan_zr> richardjc: You can use 'sudo find'
[11:18] <Reenen> hi
[11:18] <Yoric[DT]> richardjc: in which circumstances ?
[11:18] <Reenen> exactly how should I change the rights of a folder?
[11:19] <Reenen> I want to change a folder so that everyone can do anything in it
[11:19] <Yoric[DT]> Reenen: from the command-line or from Nautilus ?
[11:19] <Reenen> command line is fine
[11:19] <Yoric[DT]> (or Konqueror)
[11:19] <Yoric[DT]> chmod ugo+rwx the_folder
[11:19] <naxa> Reen: in command line you can do "chmod a+rwx folder"
[11:19] <Reenen> I need it and all of the folders under it to have all rights
[11:19] <Yoric[DT]> then
[11:19] <Yoric[DT]> chmod -R ugo+rwx the_folder
[11:20] <Reenen> thanks!
[11:20] <naxa> yeah -R is the thing
[11:20] <Yoric[DT]> A pleasure.
[11:20] <Yoric[DT]> (and a is equivalent to ugo, so either would be fine :))
[11:20] <naxa> yeah. ugo is just nicer
[11:20] <bazzieb>  is there a better firewall than firestarter? that also does DHCP and internet sharing??
[11:20] <jax27> i've attached my usb storage device but it isn't being detected, does anyone know what might be going wrong?
[11:20] <naxa> bazzieb: i still don't know sorry
[11:20] <bazzieb> cool
[11:21] <bazzieb> will hunt aroun is there a better firewall than firestarter? that also does DHCP and internet sharing??d
[11:21] <naxa> bazzieb: Guarddog is another firewall
[11:21] <bazzieb> sweet
[11:21] <insane_alien> bazzieb, firestarter isn't a firewall
[11:21] <bazzieb> will check it out
[11:21] <insane_alien> iptables is
[11:21] <bazzieb> what is it then??
[11:21] <insane_alien> a GUI front end to iptables
[11:22] <bazhang> bazzieb: firestarter is just a front end for iptables--it does the job very well though--you should first read the docs however
[11:22] <naxa> I think it can be considered as a firewall then
[11:22] <insane_alien> indeed, iptables is an excellent firewall
[11:22] <Tyczek> fjrestarted js nhs
[11:22] <Tyczek> just frontend
[11:22] <insane_alien> naxa, firestarter on its own doesn't do anything
[11:22] <Tyczek> is*
[11:23] <bazzieb> i got it working and assigning ip's
[11:23] <insane_alien> ip tables on its own will
[11:23] <insane_alien> therefore firestarter isn't a fire wall
[11:23] <bazzieb> but then my HDD crashed and had to reload
[11:23] <naxa> insane_alien: yeah, i mean from the user's view, since iptables will be installed by default, it can be considered as a firewall
[11:23] <bazzieb> now it doesnt want to work as well as it was!!
[11:23] <Tyczek> insane_alien, No, It's just the frontend. You can it just by editing iptables
[11:24] <naxa> insane_alien: even if it's not and actually a frontend only
[11:24] <insane_alien> well i'm off
[11:24] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> Hye! I would like to know it is XChat possible to manage/connect/configure with terminal? My scenario is i would like to access my Ubuntu from different location through SSH/terminal. Thanxs
[11:24] <gladier> hey guys - what repo is the vmware stuff in?? i cant find it
[11:24] <naxa> bye insane
[11:25] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: i don't know but try BitchX it's a command line chat
[11:25] <bazhang> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: use irrsi iirc :}
[11:25] <random42> I need to mount my C:\ partition, but it won't let me
[11:25] <LeShnoz> how do I give myself write permission for my other drive? media/sda2
[11:26] <naxa> random42: could you describe more specifically, how it won't let you?
[11:26] <Yoric[DT]> random42: what format is that partition ?
[11:26] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> [19:25] <bazhang> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: use irrsi iirc :} <-- what i know irrsi we can use/chat from my machine remotely. what i want just run irc client on ubuntu side
[11:26] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> my full question here: http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=4019
[11:26] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> huhuhu
[11:27] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> hye naxa, it is bitchx can do that?
[11:27] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam] i think BitchX is good for you
[11:27] <random42> NTFS. Here's my error. http://iup.in/viewimage.php?img=23902
[11:27] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> ic.. thanxs naxa. now i will goggling more bout bitch. thanxs
[11:27] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam] BitchX it is written like it. welcome
[11:28] <naxa> it=this
[11:28] <gunja> naxa: Just typing bitch into google, might bring up some interesting results ;)
[11:28] <naxa> gunja: yeah it would... :)
[11:29] <random42> Yoric[DT]: It is NTFS. Here is my error: http://iup.in/viewimage.php?img=23902. I send this message thice if you didn't read it the first time since I didn't put your nick up first.
[11:29] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> naxa, one more thing if u dont mind. it is bitchx can be download n configure by terminal? let say after download it i want to configure/scripting for irc client or i must do seat in front of that ubuntu?
[11:29] <_moro_bana_> please help, i have a dual boot system and wanna take out the windows partition without harming ubuntu
[11:29] <naxa> random42, from command line you could mount it like mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[11:29] <Yoric[DT]> random42: sorry, can't follow links at the moment
[11:29]  * Yoric[DT] is trying to find a way around his office proxy.
[11:30] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: i think BitchX is completely a command line client. "sudo apt-get install bitchx"  will install it and you can start it by BitchX
[11:31] <random42> Yoric[DT]: $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[11:31] <random42> WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile.
[11:31] <random42> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/disk: No such file or directory
[11:31] <random42> FUSE mount point creation failed
[11:31] <random42> Unmounting /dev/sda1 ()
[11:31] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> ok naxa, u really help me a lot. Thanxs
[11:31] <_moro_bana_> please help, i have a dual boot system and wanna take out the windows partition without harming ubuntu
[11:31] <Yoric[DT]> random42: do you have a directory /media ?
[11:31] <LeShnoz> I'm trying to copy files from a network to my second HDD. No permission. I cant do gksudo nautilus because it only shows the root drive. What can I do?
[11:31] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: you're welcome! You should ask about how to configure BitchX from someone else since i don't really use it but it's a good client. or read the manual
[11:32] <xavhorn>  /msg ubotu flash
[11:32] <_moro_bana_> please help, i have a dual boot system and wanna take out the windows partition without harming ubuntu
[11:32] <Suva> _moro_bana_: fdisk
[11:32] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> that's ok naxa, first i have to know what a irc client can do like that then rest of that i will googling/search on manual:) i really appreciate ur help
[11:32] <random42> Yoric[DT]: Yes.
[11:33] <LeShnoz> _moro_bana_ I dont see why you cant grab GParted and simply erase your windows partition but I'm totally new here
[11:33] <naxa> _moro_bana_: if you delete the windows partition in fdsik it won't harm ubuntu
[11:33] <opus> my LCD samsung 226BW supports 60hz refresh rate, I am able to get max 51 in System -> Preferences -> Screen  Resolution, I have an entry in the xorg.conf "VertRefresh 60" any ideas what to do?
[11:33] <reisi> does anyone know when will iwlwifi drivers be available in ubuntu?
[11:33] <naxa> _moro_bana_: also you can do the same in gparted. you can delete the windows partition if there is no important data on it, it won't harm ubuntu
[11:33] <_moro_bana_> Suva:it displays the partitions
[11:34] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam] good luck then
[11:34] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> :* naxa
[11:34] <Yoric[DT]> random42: sorry, I can't concentrate on your question at the moment, I'm fighting relatively complex problems of my own.
[11:35] <naxa> LeShnoz: you shuold mount your second HDD with writing permissions. you should edit /etc/fstab.
[11:35] <_moro_bana_> naxa: thans to all
[11:35] <murch> opus: what card u got
[11:35] <jax27> i've attached my usb storage device but it isn't being detected, does anyone know what might be going wrong?
[11:36] <opus> murch: geforce mx 400
[11:36] <opus> I am using nvidia driver
[11:37] <naxa> LeShnoz, you should add the options "umask=007,gid=46" where 007 is your umask and 46 is the group id for "users"
[11:37] <progetto> hi
[11:37] <murch> with envy
[11:37] <naxa> LeShnoz, after remounting like this you should have permissions
[11:38] <opus> murch huh?
[11:38] <progetto> there are italian people in this chat?
[11:38] <_moro_bana_> naxa; and i have a new second hdd how can a combine it with the one im using
[11:38] <j-dawg> I think someone asked this earlier...what VM program can be used under Ubuntu?
[11:38] <LeShnoz> thanks naxa! I will give it a try
[11:38] <naxa> LeShnoz, also you could copy in command line (like Terminal) and do "sodo cp -R /from_directory /to_directory"
[11:38] <Eyemean> is it true that some mothorboards dont actually use 4Gig memory even if allocated? or is that maybe realted to the processor, im not sure.
[11:39] <murch> opus: I installed envy and then adjusted my settings through the nvidia panel you get
[11:39] <naxa> LeShnoz, sorry, "sudo cp -R /from_dir /to_dir", where from_dir and to_dir are the places where do you want to copy from and to
[11:39] <opus> murch what is envy?
[11:39] <jussi01> !envy
[11:39] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[11:39] <Eyemean> opus, linux, ubunut
[11:40] <AnAnt> Hello, I got this error when I ran a perl script "Can't locate auto/Gtk2/timeout_add.al", can anyone tell me what package solves this ?
[11:40] <murch> its an installer for the nvidia and ati drivers
[11:40]  * syc_ mo hon pamid
[11:41]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[11:41] <naxa> _moro_bana_: if there are no partitions on it, first you should add partitions, for example with "gparted". after you should add lines for the new hdd's partitions to /etc/fstab as root in a text editor (sudo gedit /etc/fstab). examples for fstab can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab . also maybe there is an easier way these days i don't know i always do it like this.
[11:41] <Bassist89> hi @ alll
[11:41] <Gyro54> Anyone use GooBox
[11:41] <opus> murch what is the application called exactly I can't find in in add/remove applications
[11:42] <murch> i had some problems with my graphics card so i installed envy and removed the nvidia drivers then reinstalled them
[11:42] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> hye all!! may i know by using terminal/ssh how i can solve this? ---> Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled
[11:42] <dgjones> opus, you won't find envy in the repo's, its not recommended because it causes problems with your system
[11:42] <AnAnt> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:42] <murch> opus: use synaptic
[11:42] <Tyczek> !envy
[11:42] <AnAnt> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[11:43] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> thanxs AnAnt, can u tell me what should i do/what line? thanxs
[11:43] <naxa> _moro_bana_: the basic idea is that you should mount any newly added partitions to some mount point. for example "mount /dev/hdd3 /media/disk3" would mount /dev/hdd3 (the 3rd partition of the "d" disk, which is the 4th (a,b,c,d)) to the directory /media/disk3 (/dev/hdd3 and /media/disk3 should both exist)
[11:43] <Eyemean> sorry forget what i wrote
[11:43] <Eyemean> lol
[11:43] <ddr4> how do i give user permissions to use /dev/dvd. mplayer fails to write to /dev/dvd
[11:43] <AnAnt> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
[11:43] <naxa> _moro_bana_ fstab is a file what tells the system what should be mounted by default when the system starts
[11:43] <AnAnt> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: you are running gutsy, right ?
[11:44] <naxa> _moro_bana_: so after you add new partitions to the new hdd with gparted you should mount them and they're ready to use
[11:44] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> errr AnAnt, how by using terminal i can know my ubuntu version?:)
[11:44] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> what i know my ubuntu ver 7.04 if i not mistake:D
[11:44] <naxa> _moro_bana_ sorry if i was long i hope i could help...
[11:44] <_moro_bana_> naxa:thanks im beginning the process
[11:44] <AnAnt> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: cat /etc/issue
[11:45] <opus> Tyczek: if I am unable to get 60hz by default obviously it is needed
[11:45] <AnAnt> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: 7.04 is feisty, 7.10 is gutsy
[11:45] <_moro_bana_> naxa:im the patient
[11:45] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam], uname -r
[11:45] <bidossessi> hi folks
[11:45] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> my ubuntu ver is --> Ubuntu 7.04 \n \l
[11:45] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> :D
[11:45] <Tyczek> but not envy... it is messing things
[11:45] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam], at least the kernel version
[11:45] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> hye naxa, may i know what purpose for uname -r?
[11:46] <bidossessi> which package is recommended for an NFS server? kernel/user?
[11:46] <naxa> _moro_bana_: ok i hope you will end up with good luck
[11:46] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam], it tells your kernel version
[11:46] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> ic.. thanxs naxa :)
[11:46] <_moro_bana_> naxa: thanks,u guys work here or what
[11:46] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam], at least -v does. -r is actually the "kernel release". try uname --help. i just forgot. uh
[11:46] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> so AnAnt, how i can do for feisty?
[11:47] <naxa> _moro_bana_ I just have some spare time actually...
[11:47] <naxa> _moro_bana_ i often get helped here so i'm happy to help too
[11:47] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> thanxs naxa for ur complete info :)
[11:47] <naxa> Hj-Karim[nyelam], you're welcome :)
[11:47] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> hye all!! may i know by using terminal/ssh how i can solve this on feisty? ---> Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled
[11:48] <AnAnt> Hj-Karim[nyelam]: in the line I gave you to add, replace the word gutsy with feisty
[11:48] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> thanxs AnAnt
[11:48] <AnAnt> np
[11:48] <_moro_bana_> naxa:thats superb,how do i get help on letting people know of ubuntu in my country
[11:49] <_moro_bana_> naxa:people dont use linux at all
[11:49] <naxa> _moro_bana_, are you from russia?
[11:50] <_moro_bana_> naxa;IM STUDYING IN RUSSIA BUT FROM BOTSWANA\
[11:50] <naxa> _moro_bana_, i see, i just tried to guess from your IP
[11:50] <opus> Tyczek: then what?
[11:51] <naxa> _moro_bana_, sorry if I were rude... i didn't want to...
[11:51] <naxa> were=was :)
[11:51] <_moro_bana_> naxa:its nothing
[11:52] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> anant, it is got space? --> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/[space]gutsy[space]universe ???
[11:53] <naxa> _moro_bana_, Botswana is in South-Africa, isn't it? to your question, i'm not sure... try telling people to use it this is what i do. :) also there are eye-candy videos on youtube try searching for "beryl"... also... there are ubuntu T-shirts and mugs and everything. Linux is free you can order it on CD freely... I guess you should try and search on the ubuntu web site to see how can you help i'm nto sure sorry. :)
[11:54] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> Hye all! how i can double check it is Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled
[11:54] <Hj-Karim[nyelam]> Hye all! how i can double check it is 'universe' component enabled or not :)
[11:54] <_moro_bana_> naxa:ok i ll try by all means to let people know:southern africa
[11:54] <bidossessi> naxa, botswana is a country on it's own tho
[11:54] <naxa> there are also national channels like #ubuntu-ru, you can join by typing "/join #ubuntu-ru" here. sorry i don't know the national code for Botswana, maybe there is also a channel for your home
[11:54] <murch> opus: have you got the restricted drivers enabled
[11:55] <naxa> _moro_bana_, bidossessi yeah i meant "south" as "southern" sorry i'm just not too good in english
[11:55] <opus> murch yes
[11:55] <_moro_bana_> naxa:thanks a lot, to partitioning now,where are you
[11:55] <naxa> I live in Hungary
[11:56] <opus> i've got the right resolution but the refresh is messed up I can see the flickering
[11:56] <opus> or  pixel flowing ..
[11:56] <murch> have u got the nvidia control panel in system tools menu
[11:56] <Plagman> wireless broke on my Asus F9J laptop
[11:56] <bazzieb> I live in South Africa:-)
[11:56] <Plagman> I believe it's Intel 3945
[11:56] <opus> murch nope
[11:56] <naxa> _moro_bana_, also, now i should leave becouse my girlfriend will be waiting for me, i don't want to keep her waiting.
[11:57] <naxa> bye folks!
[11:57] <_moro_bana_> naxa:ok i ll be around, say hi to her
[11:57] <_moro_bana_> naxa: a stranger said
[11:58] <naxa> I'm back for a moment
[11:58] <opus> In restricted Drivers I see that NVIDIA accelerated graphics drivcer is in use
[11:58] <naxa> ok, bye. :)
[11:59] <opus> murch what is the binary called for nvidia control panel?
[11:59] <murch> i think its in synaptic
[12:00] <murch> linux-restricted-modules
[12:00] <murch> 2.6.2
[12:00] <j-dawg> I have a bootable W2K CD...what VM program will run and install it under Ubuntu?
[12:00] <penguincentral> i'm installung gutsy on my iMac, and the installation screen is stuck on "Scanning the mirror".  what'd going on?
[12:00] <Xintruder> are u sure, log out, then ctrl + alt + backspace restarts x?
[12:01] <penguincentral> j-dawg: virtualbox, vmware player/workstation/server
[12:01] <revilodraw> what is a good newsgroup program?
[12:01] <MolePrince> Hello, has anyone here tried to use lphdisk to set up a hibernation partition please?  When I run it it says format complete of my a0 partition but onr eboot I still get a message saying hibernation partition does not exist
[12:01] <murch> revilodraw hellanzb for nzb files
[12:01] <cvasilak> j-dawg:  try http://www.virtualbox.org/
[12:02] <murch> pan for reading
[12:02] <Eyemean> hi, i've been trying to find a website to see how far particular ram can be pushed, wanted to know if Kingston 2GB KIT (2X1GB) DDR2 667MHz/PC2-5300 CL5 Non Ecc 1.8V can be overclocked well
[12:02] <Xintruder> how do ihow do I restart X?
[12:02] <revilodraw> murch: what is nzb?
[12:02] <Eyemean> so sorry wrong channel
[12:02] <MolePrince> Also when I boot Feisty, it brings up the login prompt then several more rc messages after that!  Is there a way to get it to do it all before?
[12:03] <vlt> Hello. I got a load of "1.00 1.00 1.00" on a nearly idle machine for more than 30 hours now. This is a vmstat line "1  0   7776  79244   7980  82032    0    0     0    12 1793   735  0  0 100  0", this the output of `top`: http://pastebin.ca/844996 -- How can I find out what causes this suspicious exact load of 1.00?
[12:03] <yusuo> I just installed ubuntu and all my drives have appeared on the desktop called sdb1, sda1, sda2 how do I rename these
[12:03] <murch> a nzb file is a collection of file information for downloading multiple binary files
[12:03] <MolePrince> !lphdisk
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lphdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <martijn> ey
[12:03] <MolePrince> !uswusp
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uswusp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <revilodraw> !honesty
[12:04] <Xintruder> I need help, how can i restart x :(
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about honesty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <cvasilak> Xintruder: if you are inside X press ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:04] <revilodraw> !apologies
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apologies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <penguincentral> revilodraw: ain't that a shame
[12:04] <revilodraw> hahahaa
[12:04] <Xintruder> im on gnome
[12:04] <x0k``> Does anyone perhaps know why my Ubuntu Server installation is frozen on configuring apt?
[12:04] <martijn> !grub
[12:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:05] <x0k``> 'Scanning the mirror' to be specific
Backspace to restart x
[12:05] <penguincentral> !tell revilodraw about botabuse
[12:05] <zhan_zr> x0k``: Is you network okay?
[12:05] <x0k``> zhan_zr, I assume so
[12:05] <penguincentral> !botabuse | revilodraw
[12:05] <ubotu> revilodraw: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[12:05] <revilodraw> sorry ubotu
[12:05] <x0k``> I tried pulling the cable out
[12:05] <x0k``> thought it might skip it
[12:05] <x0k``> to no luck
[12:05] <yusuo> someone asking about restoring grub
[12:06] <x0k``> Perhaps the box is locked up
[12:06] <zhan_zr> x0k``: oh,no clues.
[12:06] <XiXaQ> is it really not possible to see how much io a process is responsible for?
[12:07] <XiXaQ> I'm very interested to know how much the different processes uses the harddisks for instance.
[12:09] <LeShnoz> Hey guys I still dont have permission on my HDD. Anybody know why? My Fstab has this line: /dev/sda2	reiserfs	defaults,gid=46,umask=007	0	0
[12:09] <ikonia> LeShnoz: define don't have permissions
[12:09] <ikonia> LeShnoz: what are you trying to do
[12:10] <LeShnoz> i'm simply trying to access another partition on my drive
[12:10] <ikonia> LeShnoz: ok - and what ar eyou doing that gets no permission
[12:10] <LeShnoz> I want to copy something from my network onto the drive : (
[12:10] <ikonia> LeShnoz: so what are the permssions on the directory you are trying to copy to
[12:11] <LeShnoz> I'm not sure.
[12:11] <ikonia> LeShnoz: look ?
[12:11] <yusuo> u wanna change the permissions usin chmod
[12:12] <LeShnoz> I where at?
[12:12] <ikonia> yusuo: please speak in clear english, it makes it easy to understand
[12:12] <ikonia> LeShnoz: what is the path you are trying to copy to
[12:13] <Elmnas> can some1 help me to install DGuitar?
[12:13] <LeShnoz> ikonia> media/PartitionSDA2
[12:13] <Smokey401> anyone want to help me just getting the 7.1 cd to boot corectly?
[12:13] <ikonia> LeShnoz: ok so in nautilus what do the properties say the permissions or, or what does "ls -la /media/PartitionSDA2" show
[12:14] <LeShnoz> Owner: root, group: root
[12:15] <ikonia> LeShnoz: ok - so root owns that permissions, so you either have to change the permissions to be owned by you, OR make it world writeable, OR use sudo/gksudo to copy the files, which approach would you like to take
[12:15] <Plagman> the ipw3945 module is loaded but eth1 doesn't show up
[12:15] <Plagman> the wireless interface has stopped showing up since I rebooted after having apt-get upgraded
[12:16] <WooD> Hi  ! what is the command to show on wich /dev/sd? are my hdd ?
[12:16] <LeShnoz> hmm. world writeable? Does that mean permission = everybody? if so yes
[12:16] <ikonia> WooD: there isn't a command, you can see the uuid's with "blkid" or you can look in dmesg or the syslog to see what device file was assigned
[12:16] <ikonia> WooD: does that make sense ?
[12:16] <WooD> ikonia, yeah thanks ..
[12:17] <ikonia> LeShnoz: ok - so you need to either a.) use gksudo and change the permissions to write for everyone b.) sudo chmod 777 media/PartitionSDA2
[12:18] <LeShnoz> ikonia, thanks a lot. How do I do a.)? gksudo ______ ?
[12:18] <ikonia> LeShnoz: gksudo nautilus
[12:18] <LeShnoz> ah
[12:18] <MolePrince> Has anyone here used uswusp?
[12:18] <murch> or use disk usage analyser in accessories menu
[12:19] <Smokey401> can someone help me ??
[12:19] <LeShnoz> ikonia thank you so much : )
[12:20] <ikonia> LeShnoz: welcome
[12:20] <ikonia> Smokey401: if you ask a questions, maybe
[12:20] <LeShnoz> ikonia so if I wanted multiple specific users (me and my vbox) i'd make a group and give the group permission / add members to it?
[12:21] <ikonia> LeShnoz: thats an excellent approach
[12:21] <Smokey401> i just downloaded the 7.10 iso and i cant get it to boot
[12:21] <rechosen> Quote: Smokey401: anyone want to help me just getting the 7.1 cd to boot corectly?
[12:21] <ikonia> Smokey401: ok, what is the symptoms of the problem
[12:21] <LeShnoz> great thank you!
[12:21] <WooD> Why we have to force to mount with ntfs-3g ? It is always telling that it may be in use ?
[12:21] <Yoric[DT]> Can I restart pam without having to unlog ?
[12:22] <Yoric[DT]> s/unlog/log out/
[12:22] <ikonia> Yoric[DT]: pam is not a service
[12:22] <ikonia> WooD: expand on that please ?
[12:22] <Yoric[DT]> ikonia: let me rephrase: I have changed the contents of pam.d .
[12:22] <ikonia> Yoric[DT]: pam is parsed on each request
[12:22] <Yoric[DT]> What should I do to have these contents taken into account ?
[12:22] <ikonia> Yoric[DT]: if you have a cached credential you may have to log out
[12:22] <Yoric[DT]> That doesn't seem to be the case according to my /var/log/auth.log
[12:22] <Yoric[DT]> That may be the problem.
[12:23] <Smokey401> i get to the splash screen and cant get any further
[12:23] <Xintruder> In the past I was told in linux you do not need to reboot unless you changed the kernel or altered it, howcome ubuntu asks me to restart sometimes after it updates?
[12:23] <Yoric[DT]> Unfortunately, I'd rather not log out, in case I made a mistake and destroyed my pam config.
[12:23] <Carlosh> hello, could somebody help. When I createa new user, metacity doesn't start automatically, you need to type metacity --replace . Is there another option? For main user everything works OK.
[12:23] <ikonia> Smokey401: do you get the boot menu ?
[12:23] <LeShnoz> ikonia > one more thing. How do I make the changes stick? Logoff?
[12:23] <Smokey401> yes i do
[12:23] <Yoric[DT]> Xintruder: it's probably because of a kernel change :)
[12:23] <ikonia> LeShnoz: what changes do you mean ?
[12:23] <ikonia> Smokey401: ok, have you ran a "cd check" from the menu ?
[12:23] <Smokey401> not yet
[12:23] <WooD> ikonia, I have a message when I make sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdd1 /media/mydrive/   the message is: $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[12:23] <Belisarivs> Hi all.
[12:23] <ikonia> Smokey401: thats always going to be step 1
[12:24] <Smokey401> ok
[12:24] <ikonia> WooD: it's not unmounting cleanly
[12:24] <Smokey401> is there any kind of failsafe mode ?
[12:24] <WooD> ikonia, ok how to clean that device .. is there any command for this ?
[12:24] <Carlosh> WooD > try to use -force
[12:24] <Xintruder> I have an XP sharing a printer, can I print to it?
[12:24] <ikonia> WooD: no, as it's ntfs. You will need to boot into windows and run a check disk on it
[12:24] <Carlosh> at the end of your command
[12:24] <Carlosh> helped me :)
[12:25] <Carlosh> but I guess it's dangerous
[12:25] <WooD> ikonia: ok
[12:25] <Carlosh> or sth.
[12:25] <WooD> Carlosh, it will work but I dont like that kind of message
[12:25] <murch> wood: is it a usb device
[12:25] <Belisarivs> I spotted, that Kile doesn't do System check correctly.
[12:25] <Carlosh> I don't get it again after force :)
[12:26] <WooD> murch, nop it is a SATA drive
[12:26] <Belisarivs> It doesn't display results.
[12:28] <LeShnoz> ikonia > changing the permissions via root terminal doesnt seem to hold. "File access" reverts to "---". I assume if I made File Access Read/Write for Others I would be able to write to the disk?
[12:28] <ikonia> LeShnoz: correct
[12:28] <bziobnic> anyone know how to get mysql support in maildrop on ubuntu?
[12:29] <ikonia> bziobnic: is maildrop linked against mysql in the ubuntu package ?
[12:29] <bziobnic> ikonia: how do I tell? I am kind of new to ubuntu...
[12:29] <bziobnic> ldd shows no mysql libraries linked to maildrop, so probably not
[12:29] <LeShnoz> after setting permissions I click close, and when I open the permissions again the File Access for all 3 fields have gone to "---". It does save the "Group" name though.
[12:30] <ikonia> bziobnic: there you go then, no mysql support for you
[12:30] <bziobnic> ikonia: so the only option is compile from source?
[12:31] <Belisarivs> Just want to ask. How can I report bug in Kile in Ubuntu. I don't know whether it is bug in upstream. Iwanted to report it in launchpad.net, but kile isn't tracked there.
[12:31] <Pitel> Hi, any bluetooth guru? I paired my new phone with my PC, but when I ntry to connect from my phone to pc, it says it can;t connect.
[12:31] <LeShnoz> ikonia > I just did the chmod instead. I wonder whats wrong though? (I wanted to go through ubuntus interface)
[12:33] <Yoric[DT]> grmph :/
[12:33] <Yoric[DT]> I still can log without the password.
[12:34] <Smokey401> ikonia: it hung on the cd check
[12:34] <WooD> Any of you guys has been able to make work a eSATA drive on ubuntu ?
[12:35] <Yoric[DT]> ikonia: any idea why I can log in without the password ?
[12:35] <Smokey401> whenever it seams to hang the hdd and cdrom lights stay almost solid
[12:35] <Yoric[DT]> (presumably a problem with my pam.d, of course)
[12:35] <wj32> a
[12:37] <ikonia> Smokey401: either the disk is dead or the hardware has an issue
[12:37] <ikonia> Yoric[DT]: depends on your pam setup
[12:38] <wj32> i forgot my password for irc, what do i do?
[12:38] <ikonia> wj32: /msg nickserv help
[12:38] <Smokey401> ikonia: is there some kind of failsafe mode like knoppix?
[12:38] <Xintruder> If I want my gnome to look super cool, what would I do?
[12:39] <ikonia> Smokey401 yes, but if youd cd can't check, thats not a good start
[12:39] <ikonia> Xintruder play around with the config/themes
[12:39] <wj32> ikonia: what do i do then...
[12:39] <Yoric[DT]> ikonia: pam_unix, pam_mount, pam_mkhomedir
[12:39] <ikonia> wj32: read the help
[12:39] <Xintruder> I want more themes, what do I do ikonia?
[12:39] <ikonia> Yoric[DT]: wgats that
 Yoric[DT]: depends on your pam setup
[12:40] <atoponce> wj32: you need to /msg a freenode staffer
[12:40] <ikonia> Xintruder: view gnome-look.org, or join #gnome and get told to go and play, but this isn't an ubuntu problem
[12:40] <atoponce> wj32: /stats p
[12:40] <Smokey401> ikonia: what would you sugest? im alredy downloading the alt. desktop iso
[12:40] <ikonia> Yoric[DT]: thats not a pam setup, thats just a list of pacckage
[12:40] <ikonia> atoponce: no you don't
[12:40] <ikonia> atoponce: you just need your password reset, and that is what nickserve is there for
[12:40] <Dave2> ikonia, you do
[12:40] <atoponce> ikonia: if you forgot your pass, you can't reset it with nickserv
[12:40] <wj32> well the help page doesnt display anyhting about recovering my password
[12:40] <Yoric[DT]> ikonia: fair enough, that's a high-level overview of my pam setup :)
[12:41] <Xintruder> thank you ikonia
[12:41] <ikonia> Smokey401: your cd is broke or your hardware is having issues
[12:41] <ikonia> Dave2: you certain.
[12:41] <Belisarivs> Ha. I found out how to report bug in Kile. But bug reporting tool reported error when submitting. All fields are filled correctly.
[12:41] <wj32> i can message without logging in, whats the point...
[12:41] <Dave2> ikonia, --- [Dave2] (i=Dave2@freenode/staff/dave2) : Dave Wickham # yes :P
[12:41] <atoponce> wj32: without your pass, you can't guard your nick. someone could take it
[12:42] <ikonia> Dave2: ta
[12:42] <atoponce> wj32: /join #freenode
[12:42] <wj32> thanks
[12:42] <Oli``> I know it's woefully bad security but is it possible to use the keyring with no password?
[12:43] <Basher_> Hey, check this site out, u get paid to click on sites! i make around 120$ a week doing nothing :D ---> http://adbux.org/?r=basher1
[12:43] <atoponce> Oli``: no, i don't think so
[12:44] <atoponce> Basher_: nothing to do with ubuntu...
[12:44] <atoponce> !ops
[12:44] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[12:45] <Oli``> atoponce: that's thoroughly annoying =(
[12:45] <Pici> atoponce: thanks
[12:45] <atoponce> Oli``: sorry
[12:45] <atoponce> Pici: no, thank you. :)
[12:45] <Oli``> atoponce: heh I know it's not your fault
[12:45] <x0k``> I repeat my previous question
[12:45] <x0k``> Does anyone know why my installer gets stck on 'Scanning the mirror' during configurating apt
[12:46] <Suva> I want to get some money for spamming unrelated channels :(
[12:46] <Smokey401> ikonia: will one of these iso's boot off of a dvd rather than a cd?
[12:46] <Suva> x0k``: Maybe you don't have internet connection?
[12:46] <Suva> x0k``: Or the server is down, try selecting another mirror
[12:46] <x0k``> Suva
[12:46] <x0k``> You dont get to select a mirror
[12:47] <Suva> You don't?
[12:47] <Suva> Ah, you do if you select the "advanced" installation somewhere :P
[12:47] <ikonia> Smokey401: I'll say it again for you. "either a.) your physical CD has a problem b.) your hardware/drive has an issue"
[12:47] <Guest16155> hello, how can i create tar file including all folders & files (and to keep file premissions) ?
[12:47] <ikonia> Smokey401: how do you expect me to fix either of those two situations
[12:47] <x0k``> Suva, This is during the server installation
[12:47] <Suva> Guest16155: -p
[12:48] <Oli``> x0k``: I thought it was automatically decided for you when you select your country... Or is this happening before you hit that stage?
[12:48] <x0k``> Oli``, perhaps it is
[12:48] <x0k``> Im not sure
[12:48] <Guest16155> Suva: i am new to ubuntu, can you give me full line example please (i tryed to read "man tar" but my english level not so good)
[12:49] <ikonia> Guest16155: tar cvfp /var/tmp/tar.file /files/you/want/to/tar
[12:49] <Suva> Guest16155: tar -cvp blah.tar DirectoryToArchive
[12:49] <atoponce> tar cvpf blah.tar directory/
[12:49] <Suva> Sry
[12:49] <Suva> F
[12:49] <Suva> Yeah
[12:49] <atoponce> f requires an argument
[12:50] <atoponce> if no -f, it operates on a tape
[12:51] <ikonia> atoponce: typo, thank you
[12:51] <atoponce> ikonia: np. :)
[12:51] <Guest16155> ikonia: its will also include sub-folders etc ?
[12:52] <Suva> Guest16155: If you need compression, you may want to tar cvzpf blah.tgz Dir/
[12:52] <Guest16155> ikonia: its will also include sub-folders?
[12:52] <Suva> Guest16155: Yes, it will
[12:52] <ikonia> Guest16155: yes
[12:52] <db-keen> why do feisty and gutsy need separate folders in an apt repository?
[12:52] <andy_> hello
[12:53] <atoponce> db-keen: due to the different software
[12:53] <andy_> think
[12:53] <andy_> thanks
[12:53] <PriceChild> db-keen, gutsy's have new versions of most htings, built for gutsy.
[12:53] <PriceChild> db-keen, don't use gutsy sources on feisty... upgrade properly or not at all
[12:53] <db-keen> but why do some third-party repositories still keep separate folders,
[12:53] <db-keen> even when they are publishing new versions to all ubuntu releases
[12:54] <Suva> db-keen: Because the dependencies are different
[12:54] <PriceChild> db-keen, because sometimes they need to do seperate because of build deps
[12:54] <Safiyyah> hi all
[12:54] <Suva> db-keen: Or may be different
[12:54] <atoponce> db-keen: some people run feisty, some run gutsy
[12:54] <Safiyyah> i have some question.. am a newbie
[12:55] <Pici> Safiyyah: Ask away ;)
[12:55] <Suva> Ask, don't ask to ask. :)
[12:55] <Safiyyah> i am ready to switch to ubuntu but i need serious help with my peripheral devices.... most importantly my modem
[12:55] <Safiyyah> am adamant not to start any installations until i know how to get my modem going thus can get help thereafter
[12:56] <Safiyyah> i have a speedtouch 330.... broadband usb modem
[12:56] <Safiyyah> manufactured by Thompson
[12:56] <db-keen> PrinceChild: I would expect the dependencies to be the same
[12:56] <MolePrince> !bitlbee
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitlbee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <atoponce> Safiyyah: have you tried the live cd to see if it works?
[12:56] <MolePrince> Anyone here use bitlbee?
[12:56] <atoponce> MolePrince: yup
[12:57] <Suva> Safiyyah: Are you using it over USB or does it have ethernet connection on it aswell?
[12:57] <MolePrince> atoponce:  I'm having trouble getting myself to connect.  I've aded the ircd file in /etc/xinet.d/ but still connection refused.  Any ideas
[12:57] <atoponce> MolePrince: have you checked out http://help.ubuntu.com/community/bitlbee?
[12:57] <Safiyyah> atoponce i just downloaded the data but stuck at burning cos all my CDs are 675mb wanted to send some1 to the store to get me a set of 700mb CDs
[12:57] <MolePrince> atoponce: Been reading it for a while now.
[12:57] <atoponce> MolePrince: also, have you started the service? /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[12:58] <webman> does anyone know of a good video editor which will allow to blur a persons face similar to what they do in the news (TV) sometimes?
[12:58] <Safiyyah> suva USB
[12:58] <Safiyyah> suva> its a USB modem, plugs straight into the phoneline with a microfilter
[12:58] <MolePrince> atoponce:  I have.  I've even tried adding a bitlbee file as well to xinet.d because I see that in the bitlbee site doc
[12:59] <Suva> Safiyyah: Ah, I know this modem
[12:59] <atoponce> MolePrince: can you pastebin your /etc/xinet.d/bitlbee config?
[12:59] <Suva> Safiyyah: Not the best modem to be used together with Linux, but it works
[13:00] <Safiyyah> Suva... how to get it working ?
[13:01] <Safiyyah> so linux likes ethernets?
[13:01] <Xintruder> !Hi
[13:01] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:01] <Xintruder> Safiyyah: are u located in Qatar?
[13:01] <Suva> Safiyyah: Here are some instructions: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[13:01] <Safiyyah> no am in the UK
[13:01] <Xintruder> ok
[13:01] <Safiyyah> thank you suva
[13:01] <Suva> Safiyyah: Can't guarantee if they are very up to date though
[13:02] <MolePrince> atoponce: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51188/
[13:02] <atoponce> MolePrince: that looks fine. and you're sure you've installed bitlbee?
[13:03] <atoponce> MolePrince: and no errors when you restart xinetd?
[13:03] <MolePrince> atoponce:  No errors.  I'm reinstalling bitlbee now just to double double check but it's been there already.
[13:04] <atoponce> MolePrince: how are you trying to /connect?
[13:04] <Suva> Safiyyah: Another page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch
[13:04] <MolePrince> atoponce:  Through irssi, but I'm trying telnet localhost 6667 as a sanity check as well
[13:04] <atoponce> MolePrince: /connect localhost i assume?
[13:04] <Suva> Safiyyah: Seems to contain about the same information
[13:04] <db-keen> I am trying to set up a general repository for programs written in Ruby, which may or may not have extensions requiring system-dependent compilation, but I don't see any point in having separate distribution folders. Why should dependencies be different from Debian stable to Ubuntu Gutsy to Ubuntu Feisty?
[13:05] <Safiyyah> ok am looking it over
[13:05] <MolePrince> atoponce:  That's correct, yes.
[13:05] <Safiyyah> Suva so wot does linux like for a modem?
[13:05] <atoponce> db-keen: dependencies may be differing versions between feisty and gutsy. what works in gutsy may break in feisty
[13:05] <Pici> db-keen: Because the packages arent necessarily named the same across distributions
[13:05] <MolePrince> atoponce:  Should I see a bitlbee process in ps ax if it's installed?
[13:05] <Suva> Safiyyah: Some normal router kind of modems
[13:05] <Suva> Safiyyah: Not USB
[13:06] <atoponce> MolePrince: no. it's running under the xinetd service
[13:06] <balachmar> Hi, just updated to gutsy on this machine, but I lose my window decoration when turning on the desktop effects, how do I get them back?
[13:06] <db-keen> Pici: is it common for packages to change names?
[13:06] <Suva> I have some cable modem that does ethernet over USB, so it's a router kind of modem with USB :)
[13:06] <MolePrince> atoponce:  AH, ok.  Any ideas what else I could check?
[13:06] <MolePrince> atoponce:  Nmap doesn't show 6667 as a service fwiw
[13:07] <Safiyyah> Suva would that 'dislike' change my connection speed? cos I dont think i will be buying anymore stuff for a while now.... no money in the kitty
[13:07] <Pici> db-keen: Certantly across from debian to ubuntu, yes.
[13:07] <atoponce> MolePrince: i was just churning through netstat, to see that port 6667 is being bound
[13:08] <MolePrince> atoponce:  I only show 25 and 80 bound on mine
[13:10] <atoponce> MolePrince: hmm. yeah. <IP_ADDRESS>:6667 should be listed, otherwise, bitlbee isn't running
[13:10] <MolePrince> atoponce: Got it!  I had service bitlbee instead of service ircd in the xinet.d/bitlbee file ><
[13:10] <atoponce> MolePrince: cool
[13:11] <MolePrince> atoponce: Thanks for your response, sorry I'm a bad reader ;)
[13:11] <atoponce> MolePrince: heh. np
[13:11] <Suva> Safiyyah: No, change in connection speed
[13:11] <siddharta> hello everybody
[13:11] <bullgard4> What is 'plain jane code' (http://htmltree.com/javascript.php)?
[13:11] <siddharta> sladen: are you there ?
[13:11] <x0k``> does anyone know how to change the timezone on ubuntu server through terminal
[13:12] <Hoxzer> x0k``: nano /etc/ntp.conf
[13:12] <atoponce> bullgard4: javascript
[13:12] <x0k``> ty
[13:12] <x0k``> file doesnt exist
[13:12] <sandr-> bullgard4: the author means there is nothing needed to execute those javascript commands, since those are handled by the browser
[13:12] <bullgard4> atoponce: Excuse me. What does your answer imply?
[13:13] <iblicf> hi , with a file-name , how to get the package-name ? pkg does not install yet , i know dpkg -S file , that is search the local
[13:13] <atoponce> bullgard4: "plain jane code" is referring to the javascript code that is handled by the browser. it's slang
[13:13] <x9x> is it the same /etc/ntp.conf that shall be created/editied for normal ubuntu too?
[13:14] <atoponce> bullgard4: on other words, he's saying that there's nothing fancy going on. no complex libraries, or dependencies, php, or anything else. just plain jane code
[13:14] <bullgard4> sandr-, atoponce:  Thank you very much for explaing.
[13:14] <atoponce> bullgard4: np
[13:15] <x9x> the live-cd don't set timezone correctly... it never asked so it is understandable :-) but if I want it to be correct here I could add the /etc/ntp.conf to my livecd then....
[13:16] <siddharta> does someone know when sladen is used to participate on this chan ?
[13:17] <Pici> siddharta: We're all volunteers, people participate when they want to.
[13:17] <Safiyyah> where can i find a list of the basic commands i need to time in the command promp, i.e cp mv etc
[13:17] <atoponce> siddharta: if you have a question about ubuntu, just ask. there 1159 people in the channel. that's odds enough that someone can answer it
[13:17] <Safiyyah> i dont remember most of them i have just forgotten it all
[13:18] <siddharta> Pici: atoponce , i need to join him to get more information on a topic on his website
[13:18] <murch> Safiyyah, http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[13:18] <atoponce> Safiyyah: google. i don't think there is any single repository of linux/unix commands. and if there were, it would be overwhelmingly large
[13:18] <atoponce> siddharta: send him a memo via memoserv then
[13:19] <arturo> per l italiano?
[13:19] <siddharta> ok i google to know how to use memoserv
[13:19] <IdleOne> !it | arturo
[13:19] <ubotu> arturo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:20] <atoponce> arturo: english channel here, or #ubuntu-it
[13:20] <WooD> What is the best music player with ability of playlist in Ubuntu ?
[13:20] <atoponce> WooD: i like exaile
[13:20] <siddharta> WooD: zinf for light
[13:20] <WooD> atoponce, ill check
[13:20] <siddharta> amarok for loud
[13:20] <siddharta> s/loud/heavy
[13:21] <dgjones> !best | WooD
[13:21] <ubotu> WooD: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[13:21] <atoponce> and what is #ubuntu-bots going to say?
[13:22] <atoponce> that last line is a bit silly...
[13:22] <dgjones> atoponce, thats a good question
[13:27] <x9x> cool that #ubuntu-bots exists :-)
[13:27] <x9x> now how do I make it "list all categories" ?
[13:29] <Safiyyah> and i had to have one more stupid question :)
[13:29] <Safiyyah> when i finally get to be a novice user on linux, is it easy to remove the windows partition?
[13:31] <izanbardprince> I wonder if Rhythmbox can sing my Nokia 6050
[13:31] <visof> i installed pidgin and i have no icon for it
[13:31] <izanbardprince> *sync even
[13:31] <visof> how can i make icon for it in application
[13:32] <izanbardprince> visof:pidgin should be under the Internet tab, it comes with Ubuntu
[13:32] <sandr-> my piding icon is located in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/pidgin.png
[13:32] <Switch^> does anyone know any good non-linear video editors for linux?
[13:33] <visof> i use feisty 7.04
[13:33] <izanbardprince> visof Alt-F2 then sudo update-manager -d
[13:34] <izanbardprince> gksudo that is
[13:34] <x9x> is it possible to have the live-cd use 3d-drivers?
[13:34] <bidossessi> how doable would it be to upgrade my motherboard/cpu and keep my system configuration?
[13:34] <erawfish> x9x: if you have the right videocard or possibly create your own livecd
[13:35] <x9x> ok I want to create my own livecd (modify the normal one) with support for modern nvidia-cards
[13:36] <Belisarivs> Does anybody has experience with ocr in Linux?
[13:36] <dgjones> !ocr | Belisarivs, no experience, but this may help you
[13:36] <ubotu> Belisarivs, no experience, but this may help you: OCR software for Ubuntu includes Tesseract, Ocrad and GOcr. GNOME users can use 'gocr-gtk' as a front-end to GOcr, while KDE users have Kooka available as a front-end to Ocrad and GOcr.
[13:36] <bidossessi> how doable would it be to change my motherboard/cpu (upgrade) and keep my system configuration?
[13:37] <x9x> erawfish, should I do anything mor than add the nvididia-new pacakage? and will the start of the cd count as the reboot that ubuntu normally requires?
[13:37] <murch> bidossessi it shouldnt affect your system at all unless your hardware is incompatable
[13:37] <Lartza_> what is gui programming? i dont understand
[13:38] <Joelio> hey guys, I've just installed gutsy on my latitude d630 and then had to reinstall it once I'd ran an upgrade (Gnome was crashing). Is there a bug?
[13:38] <Poobleo> LOL http://tinyurl.com/34vk45
[13:38] <x9x> whould be at all possible to create a livecd that supports 3D with both nivida and ATI cards?
[13:38] <Poobleo> haha that guy is pissed
[13:38] <Belisarivs> thanks
[13:38] <bidossessi> murch, so if i don't change any of my periferal and keep the same type of processor (amd64) it should be fine? i am hoping to ditch my athlonxp and move to something more recent
[13:38] <bidossessi> athlon 64
[13:39] <erawfish> x9x: why would ubuntu require a reboot for anything?
[13:39] <novato_br> my resolution is 640x480, how can I change it to resolution 1024 x 768 by line command ?
[13:39] <novato_br> my resolution is 640x480, how can I change it to resolution 1024 x 768 by line command ?
[13:39] <Poobleo> Finnaly finished my project -> http://tinyurl.com/34vk45
[13:40] <ubuntuisloved_> can someone kick Poobleo
[13:40] <erawfish> !Ops Poobleo is a spammer
[13:40] <Joelio> navato_br: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (I think)
[13:40] <ubuntuisloved_> !Ops kick Poobleo
[13:40] <x9x> erawfish: yeah it beats me, but when I active the nividia 3d driver, ubuntu says I must reboot now. I think it *should* be enough to restart X (ctrl-Alt-Backspace) but it is not :-(
[13:41] <Kasplatt> is there a way to partition my HDD without breaking my windows install ?
[13:41] <Lartza_> what is gui programming? i dont understand
[13:41] <Poobleo> Can somebody please rate my project
[13:41] <Poobleo> [02:38:35] <Poobleo> Finnaly finished my project -> http://tinyurl.com/34vk45
[13:41] <mario> paps
[13:41] <mario> Lehmann
[13:41] <MolePrince> Anyone know if there's a way to allow tshark to be run as a normal user instead of superuser?
[13:45] <Joelio> hey guys, I've just installed gutsy on my latitude d630 and then had to reinstall it once I'd ran an upgrade (Gnome was crashing). Is there a bug?
[13:45] <osxdude> um
[13:45] <osxdude> where are my panels?
[13:45] <osxdude> shoot :/
[13:45] <osxdude> NO
[13:45] <osxdude> I have to reboot!
[13:46] <bidossessi> wow,, people here reboot like nobody's business!
[13:46] <ikonia> bidossessi: there are over 1000 people in here, people will come and go
[13:47] <erawfish> ikonia: more like "there are lots of windows users in here"
[13:47] <bidossessi> ikonia, my comment was rather on the very winblowsy instinct to "reboot" for a quick fix
[13:47] <bidossessi> erawfish, exactly
[13:47] <simonova> I installed some packages with synaptic, there were some problems, and now I can't use apt... and apt-get -f install won't fix it
[13:49] <ikonia> simonova: what error do you get
[13:49] <bidossessi> oren
[13:49] <simonova> when I run apt-get -f install, for every package I get "dpkg: error processing <insert deb name here> (--unpack):"
[13:50] <Pici> simonova: What do you mean by 'there were some problems'?
[13:50] <simonova> when I installed, it gave me a bunch of the same error messages
[13:51] <Safiyyah> am having trouble burning the DVD any1 to help me?
[13:51] <x9x> if anyone knows how to make a livecd that do both nvidia and ati 3d-graphics just honk!
[13:52] <CroX> Anyone here happen to know the Glicko ranking system?
[13:52] <Cal> good morning folks.  i am trying to install ubuntu on my hp dv6000 notebook and am having problems.  after i select 'start or install' from the boot menu a prompt shows that drivers are being loaded, and then the screen goes black and i have to restart.  can anyone tell me why this is happening?
[13:52] <ikonia> x9x: it's the same process as any livecd, you just need to update the drivers to the correct compatability versions
[13:52] <ikonia> Cal: do you have an ATI card ?
[13:53] <Cal> ikonia, no nvidia
[13:53] <ikonia> Cal: have you tried using the failsafe boot option ?
[13:53] <murch> ahhh now i have the fear
[13:53] <Cal> ikonia, no not yet.  if that works what does that suggest?
[13:54] <murch> i need to look at resizing partitions, anyone got any suggestions on the easiest way to do this
[13:54] <ikonia> Cal: some later versions of video cards are not supported at the install cd, it is SUPPOSED to fall back to vesa in tht case, but with ati's I've seen it fail a fair ammount, you are the first potential nvidia user I've seen
[13:54] <aram> can any one helo whuch linux is good choise for server i mean dhcp and routing tottaly act like win 2k3
[13:54] <ikonia> aram: anyone
[13:54] <ikonia> aram: ubuntu is quite acceptable
[13:54] <x9x> yeah I have nividia too, but my friend maybe have ati, and I want it to be possible to run the cd (without intallation on harddisk) with 3D without having to type anythin on her part
[13:54] <ikonia> aram: the desktop eddition would work well
[13:55] <Cal> ikonia, my video card is a geforce go 6150.
[13:55] <ikonia> Cal: I'm not aware of the specifics of that model
[13:55] <ikonia> x9x: you just need to include the drivers for you / your friend in the livecd you build
[13:55] <aram> ikonia: i mean can i run dhcp , routing ,dns and some stuff like that ?
[13:55] <th0r> aram none of them will act like windows server, but any would handle dhcp and routing (but not like w2k3)
[13:55] <ikonia> aram: correct
[13:55] <ikonia> aram: the ubuntu desktop cd will be a perfect install solution
[13:55] <x9x>  ikonia: x9x: you just need to include the drivers for you / your friend in the livecd you build
[13:56] <x9x>  14:55 aram:
[13:56] <x9x> oups...
[13:56] <x9x> ok is that easy :-)
[13:56] <Cal> ikonia, alright well i'll give the safe mode boot a try.  if that works, how can i solve my problem?  also where on the net can i find ubuntu hardware compatibility?
[13:56] <ffm> What command should I use if I want to replace every instance of string "A" with string "B" in all files in DIR (and all files in subdirectories of it)
[13:56] <aram> ikonia: how can i find out about about feature of ubuntu ?
[13:56] <ikonia> Cal: if that works you won't have a problem on the install system, its a limiation of the static drivers on the cd
[13:56] <ikonia> aram: read ubuntu.com ?
[13:57] <aram> ikonia: i got redhat but it seemd to be same as ubuntu
[13:57] <th0r> ffm sed
[13:57] <ikonia> aram: all linux distros are built around the same technologies so their functions / capabilities will be mostly the same
[13:57] <ffm> th0r: thx
[13:57] <markuman> where is eeeFiatpuntu?
[13:57] <aram> ikonia: could you please help me how could i find out if my ubutu is desktop or not?
[13:58] <asc> I keep getting a checksum error on install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz when trying to install flashplugin-nonfree. Can anybody help me with this?
[13:58] <ikonia> aram: do you have a gome gui (I assume yes)
[13:58] <ffm> aram: cat /etc/issue
[13:58] <ikonia> !flassplugin | asc
[13:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flassplugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:58] <ikonia> !flashplugin | asc
[13:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:58] <ffm> !flash | asc
[13:58] <ubotu> asc: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:58] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:58] <aram> ikonia: i have gnome and version is 7.10 gusty
[13:58] <ikonia> ffm: thank you
[13:58] <Pici> !flashplugin is <alias> flash
[13:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[13:58] <ikonia> aram: then you have ubuntu 7.10 desktop
[13:58] <ffm> ikonia: np
[13:59] <aram> ikonia: ok thanks is there any other version apart from desktop?
[13:59] <ikonia> aram: there are - but you won't need them
[14:00] <aram> ikonia: ok thanks what about virtual mashine like vmware i got that on widows
[14:00] <aram> ikonia: do we have any virtual mashine for linux
[14:00] <ikonia> aram: there are multiple virtualisation options available to linux and ubuntu
[14:00] <ikonia> aram: there is even the cross-platform vmware application which most windows users use
[14:01] <aram> ikonia: thanks for ur help is there any program that you suggest ?
[14:01] <aram> ikonia: i mean name of the program
[14:01] <ikonia> aram: suggest for what ?
[14:01] <hit> hi
[14:01] <aram> ikonia: virtual mashine
[14:01] <hit> can i change specific keyboard key to another one?
[14:01] <ikonia> aram: well if your a windows user, I'd suggest vmware so it seems familier to you
[14:01] <hit> i.e i don't have vertical bar in us keyboard
[14:01] <aram> ikonia: thanks
[14:01] <jarryd> |
[14:02] <jarryd> here have mine
[14:02] <hit> jarryd, copy/paste isn't much satisfying
[14:02] <murch> any suggestions on the safest way to resize partitions
[14:02] <jrib> hit: probably with xmodmap, but you'd have to look up the syntax
[14:02] <brobostigon> good afternoon
[14:02] <ubuntuisloved_> gparted
[14:02] <ubuntuisloved_> murch: gparted will resize partitions and is free
[14:03] <ikonia> murch there is no "safe way" be aware there are risks with any resizing of partitions
[14:03] <aram> ikonia: i just want to go thanks again bye
[14:03] <ikonia> aram: welcome
[14:03] <murch> oh yes i know
[14:03] <murch> so gparted is the way to go
[14:03] <murch> thx
[14:03] <ubuntuisloved_> murch: well i use gparted and i resized my win partition 80 gig
[14:03] <ikonia> murch: if your comfortble with the risk, it is an excellent tool
[14:03] <ubuntuisloved_> down to 20 gig then eventually deleted it
[14:04] <ubuntuisloved_> of course this was XP not vista
[14:04] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved_: how does that matter ?
[14:04] <murch> i made my /home to small and need to take some of /
[14:04] <ubuntuisloved_> ikonia: not to you but maybe it gives him relief
[14:05] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved_: he didn't mention anything about windows partitions or vista/xp worries
[14:05] <ikonia> murch: native file systems have less of a risk, but there are still risks
[14:05] <ubuntuisloved_> murch: yes you can resize home i thought you were resizing win partitions
[14:05] <murch> can it be done within or do i need to boot from disk
[14:05] <ubuntuisloved_> murch: just backup your /home first and importatnt files
[14:06] <ikonia> murch: I would do it from a livecd
[14:06] <ubuntuisloved_> it has a bootable iso on thier website
[14:06] <murch> cool ta
[14:06] <ikonia> murch: due to the file systems your using
[14:06] <asc> ikona: Thanks.
[14:06] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved_: what has a bootable iso ?
[14:06] <ubuntuisloved_> murch: bootable or not backup
[14:06] <ikonia> asc: welcome
[14:06] <F-u-z-z-Y> Hi all, I am having trouble editing /etc/fstab from the terminal (im logged on to root) It says "bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied"
[14:06] <dgjones> F-u-z-z-Y, are you using the sudo command?
[14:06] <ubuntuisloved_> ikonia: do you have something better to do then that?
[14:07] <dgjones> F-u-z-z-Y, ignore that, i misread you
[14:07] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved_: the ubuntu install cd - that he already has
[14:07] <ikonia> F-u-z-z-Y: are you on the livecd
[14:07] <ubuntuisloved_> ikonia: has gparted?
[14:07] <F-u-z-z-Y> dgjones, im trying to edit it so that i can add windows shared to be mounted at boot. I did it before i reinstalled ubuntu
[14:07] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved_: yes
[14:08] <murch> ok whats the preferred option gparted bootcd or Ubuntu cd
[14:08] <F-u-z-z-Y> ikonia, i used the livecd and installed ubuntu to the hd
[14:08] <brobostigon> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[14:08] <ubuntuisloved_> ikonia: really cool how do you know whether its uptodate?
[14:08] <ikonia> murch: as you are using ubuntu I would suggest the ubuntu cd as it will "know" your setup.
[14:08] <chazco> Hi... i've created a deb... just checking on the format of .desktop files (menu entry ones)... is it permissable to have an absolute path to an executable? e.g. /opt/some/dir/app
[14:08] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved_: it's the version that's in the repo
[14:08] <ikonia> chazco: I don't see why not
[14:09] <ubuntuisloved_> ikonia: cool how do you load it up just command line?
[14:09] <F-u-z-z-Y> brobostigon, thank you
[14:09] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved_: just drag it down from the repo and it appears in your menu
[14:09] <chazco> ikonia - Good, just checking... its finally finished now :D
[14:09] <chazco> Works on KDE & Gnome too :)
[14:09] <wucheng> i excute "ln -s ../../../host /home/" ,then "file /home/host" ,the console retune the message "broken symbolic link to `../../../hosts'
[14:09] <ikonia> chazco: well done to you, I know it's been hard work
[14:09] <x-X-x> i bought an " iriver t60 4gb " and i want to upgrade the firmware but i need to install " iriver plus 3 " and its an .exe what do i do and if anyone else owns an iriver how did you upgrade the firmware under linux ?
[14:10] <ikonia> wucheng: your link is going to a dead location
[14:10] <ubuntuisloved_> ikonia: so its not actually loaded on the ubuntu live cdrom then by default you have to have internet ?
[14:10] <Jonny88> hi, i'v got a ubuntu DVD from linux format magazine, and I want to install it onto a 1gb usb flash drive. How do I do minimal install? I'v read guides saying use the alternative CD (I dont have) and use 'custom' as a boot option, which isnt working for me. Any help?
[14:10] <chazco> ikonia - yep :) I've made other debs but the mime type stuff really threw me off
[14:10] <ikonia> ubuntuisloved_: I believe so
[14:10] <ikonia> Jonny88: you can't really strip it down like that at install time from the standard cd
[14:10] <khamael> x-X-x: try #winehq for running .exe in linux/ubuntu
[14:10] <perfector> avahi-daemon still tries to start itself even though i have disabled in system start-up scripts.. shld i disable it anywhere in config files??
[14:11] <Jonny88> Got the standard DVD, does that make a difference?
[14:11] <x-X-x> k
[14:11] <ikonia> Jonny88: not really
[14:11] <dgjones> Jonny88, you'd be better downloading the alternate cd from the ubuntu website
[14:11] <Jonny88> can't burn discs here
[14:11] <chazco> Jonny88 - Is this the 8GB multi-distro DVD in the Linux format with the gumball machine pic on the front by any chance?
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: I thought alt was included on DVD?
[14:12] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: depends on the version
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: Good to know.. thanks, and good morning
[14:12] <Jonny88> Its the double sided LXF DVD with suse 10.3 on the flip
[14:12] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: I think he's got the DVD from the front of a UK magazine
[14:12] <menllyos> is there some list of soundcards available somewhere that do work properly under ubuntu ?
[14:12] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: LFX is a magazine in the uk
[14:12] <ikonia> !hcl | menllyos
[14:12] <ubotu> menllyos: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[14:12] <dgjones> Jonny88, if you download the alternate cd and save the iso, you should be able to follow the instructions to setup a usb stick install, you shouldn't need to burn it to a cd
[14:13] <Jonny88> dgjones: where can I find said instructions?
[14:13] <Unrealcat> good morning
[14:13] <UbuntuNeuling> Hi. I have the following prblem after installing Ubuntu. My HD space is lowered from 200 to 18GB. I alreadz checked and formated it with QTParted but it only shows 18gig. Does anyone know, what can be wrong? thank zou
[14:13] <brobostigon> you could dd the iso to the usb stick.
[14:13] <F-u-z-z-Y> to add windows shares to be mounted at boot, can you confirm this is the correct command,   smbmount //78.***.***.***/TV$ /mnt/R-TV -o credentials=/home/fraser/.smbpasswd
[14:13] <dgjones> Jonny88, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:14] <felich> please advise solution to repair 'opera' installation; here is terminal message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51194/
[14:14] <Xintruder> is nvidia 7400 less better than nvidia 8400?
[14:14] <Xintruder> i want better for ubuntu and compiz
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> UbuntuNeuling: What does your bios show for hard drive and are you sure you are not reading it  wrong and it is showing 18 x 10 after the format?
[14:14] <ikonia> Xintruder: different chipsets so "better" depends on your needs
[14:15] <chazco> Does anyone know if its possible to remove packages from /var/cache/apt/archives that are not installed?
[14:15] <chazco> (automatically)
[14:15] <ikonia> chazco: dpkg should do that if there is a cleanup section in the script
[14:15] <brobostigon> sudo apt-get clean
[14:15] <Xintruder> which are considered (High end) and better for ompiz capabilities
[14:15] <ikonia> or  "post" I think is the reference
[14:15] <Xintruder> compiz*
[14:15] <ikonia> Xintruder: the 8x version is a better card, but the 7x has better current driver support
[14:15] <ubuntuisloved_> Xintruder: you can go here for hardware support https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[14:16] <xsavier> plz anyone help me how to use ubiquity tool
[14:16] <perfector> pls tell me how to disable avahi-daemon?
[14:16] <chazco> brobostigon - I thought that totally wiped the folder?
[14:16] <UbuntuNeuling> Jack SParrow. My BIOS shows 200GB and the GNOME partition manager sayz 18,19 GiB
[14:16] <Guillem> ikonia, Xintruder, nvidia drivers keep improving IMHO...
[14:16] <perfector> its increasing my boot-up time
[14:16] <ikonia> Guillem: I didn't say they didn't
[14:16] <brobostigon> just wipes the contects i think
[14:17] <brobostigon> contents
[14:17] <xsavier> im trying to install the filesystem from livecd but it is going fine upto creating the partition
[14:17] <Guillem> ikonia, OK
[14:17] <ubuntuisloved_> Xintruder: is it a laptop? just curious because ive had trouble with the nvidia on mine
[14:17] <Xintruder> there is no nvidia 7400 in the nvidia list :s
[14:17] <Xintruder> yes, vaoi
[14:17] <xsavier> sorry im not able to create a partition through ubiquity
[14:18] <xsavier> i dont know wats the exact problem
[14:18] <ubuntuisloved_> what laptop is it ive got T61 cant remember the details on chipset
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> UbuntuNeuling: I was not doubting you.  But I had made that mistake before.  What does sudo fdisk -l   show
[14:18] <menllyos> can one assume that hardware working under older version of ubuntu also works under 7.10 (or 8.04) ?
[14:18] <xsavier> please help me in this regard
[14:18] <white_eagle> how can I download the java runtime enviroment, because when I go to sun microsys. they offer only a rpm package
[14:18] <ikonia> menllyos: 8.04 is unstable so nothing can be assumed
[14:18] <F-u-z-z-Y> Xintruder: I use a nvidia 7300 in my laptop. Its listed in the restricted drivers but i have no real probs using it
[14:19] <ikonia> white_eagle: use the sun package the ubuntu repo's
[14:19] <menllyos> i know, but for future usage ... :)
[14:19] <pike_> white_eagle: search for jre sun in synaptic
[14:19] <ikonia> white_eagle: or use the tar file installer from sun (not recommended)
[14:19] <Guillem> menllyos, should, but, check with the live CD... prior to do anything.
[14:19] <ikonia> menllyos: 9 times out of 10 yes
[14:19] <xsavier> how to create a partition with the help of ubiquity
[14:19] <ikonia> menllyos: occasionally support for older kit is dropped
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> felic1: Did you recently try to update opera?
[14:19] <ikonia> Xintruder: stop asking every 30 seconds
[14:19] <ikonia> oops
[14:19] <ubuntuisloved_> F-u-z-z-Y: did you have any problems enabling the nvidia for desktop effects?
[14:19] <ikonia> xsavier  stop asking every 30 seconds
[14:19] <ljsmithx> ok im back
[14:19] <Xintruder> ikonia: excuse me?
[14:20] <ikonia> Xintruder: typo, not meant for you, apologies
[14:20] <pike_> xsavier: im not sure what ubiquity is but if you just want to create a new partition not resize an old one you can use gparted or sudo cfdisk /dev/sda  <-- or whatever partition also fdisk
[14:20] <pike_> xsavier: gparted will resize also
[14:20] <ljsmithx> If When I right-click on my desktop and goto change wallpaper, the appearance menu doesn't respond :'(
[14:20] <ljsmithx> anyone help?
[14:20] <bazhang> xsavier: are you doing a new install? please be precise
[14:21] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, enabling nvidia for desktop-effects has some tricks
[14:21] <ljsmithx> how do I go about fixing a problem like this?
[14:21] <F-u-z-z-Y> ubuntuisloved: no, but i had to change the software source to enable the driver first, before i could enable the driver, then enable desktop effects. Desktops effects are set on the highest and i have no real problems. Sometimes they dont stop wobbling, lol but u just need to minize them, and maximum then again
[14:21] <ubuntuisloved_> Guillem: im all ears for help on any tutorial?
[14:21] <ljsmithx> :(
[14:22] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, you have to get rid of xserver-XGL, you have to enable the proprietary driver, you have to enable some options at xorg.conf,
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: SInce it normally should.. what did you recently install or do that may have caused the problem.  And, have you ever run automatix or envy scripts.. Both bad ideas.
[14:22] <ljsmithx> oo
[14:22] <F-u-z-z-Y> I have a Nvidia 7300 tho, Xintuder has a 7400 (i think)
[14:22] <ljsmithx> I have automatix installed
[14:22] <ikonia> !automatix | ljsmithx
[14:22] <ubuntuisloved_> Guillem:cant u post me a tutorial
[14:22] <ubotu> ljsmithx: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[14:22] <white_eagle> thanks ikonia
[14:22] <ljsmithx> did that break it?
[14:22] <UbuntuNeuling> Ok he says 20.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>8 bytes
[14:22] <ljsmithx> ohh dear
[14:22] <bazhang> ljsmithx: automatix? uh oh
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: Yes you broke it.. fresh install is the way to go
[14:22] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, and depending on your hardware you have to enable some options for the nvidia-kernel-driver....
[14:22] <ljsmithx> uninstall?
[14:22] <ikonia> ljsmithx: we do not support systems that have ever used automatix
[14:23] <ikonia> ljsmithx: no - clean ubuntu install only
[14:23] <ljsmithx> ok then
[14:23] <ljsmithx> ?
[14:23] <ljsmithx> aww
[14:23] <ikonia> ljsmithx: you need to re-install ubuntu
[14:23] <pike_> ljsmithx: sorry just too many variables
[14:23] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, I'm not sure, since I've been evolving from long time ago...
[14:23] <ljsmithx> so i wont ever be able to get help ever?
[14:23] <ljsmithx> thats just crap
[14:23] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, first step is to ensure you have the propietary driver working.
[14:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: Nope
[14:23] <ikonia> ljsmithx: not until you re-install ubuntu
[14:23] <ljsmithx> :'(
[14:23]  * bazhang wonders what the attraction of automatix/envy is
[14:23] <ubuntuisloved_> Guillem: how do i do this
[14:23] <elkbuntu> bazhang, lemmings
[14:23] <ikonia> ljsmithx: thats not "crap" that was your choice using tools created by people who are nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:24] <ljsmithx> ok then
[14:24] <ljsmithx> sorry
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: We had a whole series of people with automatix related problems last night
[14:24] <ljsmithx> I just heard about automatix and thought it was a good idea
[14:24] <UbuntuNeuling> So Jack_Sparrow du you have another idea? because this comand gave 20.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>8 bytes back. I dont understand that because the bios says 200gb
[14:24] <pike_> ljsmithx: there is an automatix channel i think
[14:24] <bazhang> elkbuntu: seems that way :}
[14:25] <pike_> ljsmithx: nm, i guess there isnt. you can always run gparted to resize you hd and create free space then install a new install of uubntu to that so you dont lose your current OS
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> UbuntuNeuling: Something is up... WOuld it be possible for you to get the gparted stand alone cd 50 meg dl  and see what it shows for your drive
[14:25] <xoqa> can someone help me get an internet connection on ubuntu 7.10?
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[14:25] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[14:25] <xoqa> can someone help me get an internet connection on ubuntu 7.10?
[14:25] <LuCypher> Hi, I can't install msttcorefonts... I don't really need it , but I can't remove it too
[14:25] <ljsmithx> xoqa, don't spam
[14:25] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, ideally, the restricted-modules-manager should show you the way
[14:26] <bazhang> xoqa: wired or wireless
[14:26] <F-u-z-z-Y> xoqa, whats ur set up? wired/wireless etc?
[14:26] <UbuntuNeuling> I have a ubuntu live cd with gparted. Is that working too? I am online with this live cd atm
[14:26] <LuCypher> The pcess stops configuring and downloading *.exe
[14:26] <ljsmithx> i want to die :'(
[14:26] <anubis_> is anybody familiar with hda-intel bus
[14:26] <xoqa> bazhang: wired
[14:26] <jrib> LuCypher: pastebin what happens when you try
[14:26] <xoqa> F-u-z-z-Y: wired
[14:26] <LjL> ljsmithx: if you really don't want to reinstall, then remove automatix and everything related, then install debsums and run "sudo debsums -g | grep -v OK", and for each file that doesn't match the sums, reinstall the corresponding package (« sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename »)
[14:26] <ubuntuisloved_> Guillem: should i remove that other package first?
[14:26] <x9x> strange that the flash-thing isn't fixed yet.... what is best version in terms of be able too use as many webpages that unfortunately require flash? (no I dont count ads here...)  the old one or the new?
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> UbuntuNeuling: entirely different, which is why I was specific and gave the link
[14:26] <bazhang> xoqa: your ethernet does not work? is this gutsy? can you access the computer now?
[14:27] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, not necessary. You need to have working the nvidia proprietary driver prior to any other thing.
[14:27] <F-u-z-z-Y> xoqa, do you get an ip address from plugging a ethernet cable in?
[14:27] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, that step is mandatory
[14:27] <xoqa> bazhang: i can access it but i have to disconnect from irc to do so because i only have on cable.
[14:28] <anubis_> need help with using hsf modem under ubuntu
[14:28] <xoqa> i followed the directions on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde and removed the libs and installed kde, but after rebooting, no internet..     <- bazhang, F-u-z-z-Y
[14:28] <pike_> x9x: normally i just grab the tar.gz from adobe anyway. all you do is drop it in plugins folder /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ i think is right
[14:28] <LjL> !dialup > anubis_    (anubis_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:28] <bazhang> xoqa: this is computer you are using now? with another os?
[14:28] <pike_> x9x: er drop the plugin that is in the tar.gz
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL Wouldn't it take longer to do that than reinstall.?  And good morning..
[14:28] <x9x> pike_, ok
[14:28] <xoqa> bazhang: it's another computer, mine. i just got it in the other day. it's a thinkpad t41
[14:28] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow, i really don't think so
[14:29] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, as I told you, ideally, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[14:29] <ubuntuisloved_> Guillem: do you recommend Envy?
[14:30] <bazhang> xoqa: can you turn it on an type lspci in the terminal on it and tell (not paste in the channel) what the ethernet card is for that thinkpad--no need to connect at this point
[14:30] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, nope
[14:30] <dgjones> That advice about Autom-tix possible repair sounds like it should be added to the factoid as a "You may be able to repair using this method...." option
[14:30] <Guillem> ubuntuisloved_, I recommend the ubuntu packages already available at the repositories.
[14:30] <TuxOtaku> hey guys...I'm having some trouble starting FVWM-Crystal
[14:30] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: there are still risks that stuff will remain installed, doing it the way i proposed... changes in files in /etc for instance, or stuff installed in /opt or /usr/local... but it's certainly not slower than reinstall in most circumstances
[14:31] <TuxOtaku> everytime I try to start it from GDM, I get a "your session lasted less than 10 seconds" error
[14:31] <bazhang> dgjones: not likely as it is not supported
[14:31] <abhi_> i'm using libdb4.4-dev and not able to compile my berkeley db programs on Gutsy any help?
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL Good to know thanks
[14:31] <xoqa> bazhang, F-u-z-z-Y: Ethernet controller: Intel Corp 82540EP Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Mobile) (rev 03)
[14:32] <bazhang> xoqa: so when you connect it to via ethernet you get no dhcp offers? this via network-manager or the terminal?
[14:33] <xoqa> bazhang: terminal
[14:33] <novato_br> automessage: downloading 66%  of 100MB - 16KB/s
[14:33] <LuCypher> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/51196/
[14:34] <LjL> novato_br: uh?
[14:34] <bazhang> xoqa: are you going to get this computer going on the same network? if so, via router or second ethernet cable? at some point in time that is
[14:34] <redrah> Is there some italian guy?
[14:34] <Guillem> xoqa, a month ago I saw a hp laptop which had trouble with a wired card - I guess it was an Intel card, not sure- The workarround consisted on starting the kernel with the pci=noacpi option.
[14:35] <LjL> !it | redrah
[14:35] <ubotu> redrah: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:35] <xoqa> bazhang: i'm going to unplug the ethernet cable plugged in this one, put it in the other computer's port and reset the cable modem
[14:35] <simplyubuntu> hey has anyone experienced gnash working in one account and not in another?
[14:36] <xoqa> Guillem: is there a log of this conversation?
[14:36] <LuCypher> Hi, I can't install msttcorefonts... I don't really need it , but I can't remove it too http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/51196/
[14:36] <bazhang> xoqa: so both will be on the same network--or just the one computer?
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: How are you trying to remove msttcorefonts?
[14:36] <xoqa> bazhang: one computer, one connection. one at a time
[14:36] <LuCypher> If I do apt-get remove or dpkg -r it starts with configuration anyway
[14:36] <Guillem> xoqa, no, it was a friend of mine... we googled for the model of the laptop and we reached a page where a guy stated the problem...
[14:36] <mfabbri> hi, does anyone know where keymap files are on gutsy?
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: Does synaptic show it as installed?
[14:37] <xoqa> Guillem: i just find it odd that i remove these apps and then don't have an internet connection
[14:37] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow : yes
[14:37] <Guillem> xoqa, it was something like this page : http://marcin.af.gliwice.pl/if-then-else-20071022085850 (but it was not that one...)
[14:37] <Mutexes> how do i start the ubuntu server installation in text-mode (not graphical mode)
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: Have you tried to remove it from there?
[14:37] <xoqa> Guillem: i could try installing ubuntu-desktop :| i kind of like my kde deskto :)
[14:37] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow : yes
[14:37] <N> hello
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: Does it give you an error or tell you what to do to fix it?
[14:38] <N> i from korea
[14:38] <Guillem> xoqa, I'm sorry because I have not read all your problem. Just the bottom line and then I've remembered the trouble of my friend. Probably it is not your case...
[14:38] <simplyubuntu> hellooo anyone?
[14:38] <N> nice to meet you
[14:38] <ikonia> simplyubuntu: what ?
[14:38] <ikonia> N: do you have a question based on ubuntu ?
[14:38] <bazhang> N: this is a support channel
[14:38] <Xintruder> nVidia GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB graphics and 2 Mega Pixel Built-In Webcam ( +$199.00 ) << is this old???? because my nvidia has go instead of geforce, and will it work well with gutsy?
[14:38] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow : every time I try to remove it it starts with "pre-removal script" that is the same "post-install"
[14:38] <ikonia> Xintruder: go is a laptop model
[14:39] <simplyubuntu> ikonia my gnash works with one account and not with the other...
[14:39] <Xintruder> oh ic
[14:39] <dfault312> my thin client wont boot, i get a message related to the sound card during the boot process, and then just a blinking cursor. can anyone help?
[14:39] <ikonia> simplyubuntu: look at .firefox or .mozzilla in the home dir's of the working/nonworking users
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: I take it you are cancelling it out at that point?
[14:39] <ikonia> dfault312: anything logged
[14:39] <dfault312> i dont know, where would the log files be?
[14:40] <dfault312> @ikonia: where would the log files be?
[14:40] <iNtERrUpT> vncserver doesn't work. with "could not open default font 'fixed'". how can i fix it?
[14:40] <iNtERrUpT> hellooo?
[14:40] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, you are at 64bit install, aren't you?
[14:40] <ikonia> iNtERrUpT: yes ?
[14:40] <iNtERrUpT> no, i am 32bit.
[14:41] <xoqa> slighly off from my main problem, but also, with this version of ubuntu (7.10) i always have to select 'recovery mode' or else it looks like it's going to load but it's just blank... i haven't left it alone for more than 2 mins and then i reboot by pressing ctl-alt-del. anyone know of something similar where this has occured?
[14:41] <ikonia> dfault312: well how far does the boot get ? the log files will be on the boot setber
[14:41] <pike_> iNtERrUpT: is the server just a bare install no X?
[14:41] <ikonia> server
[14:41] <iNtERrUpT> no, desktop.
[14:41] <luksmann> anybode here who is a real w-lan expert - i've got some very strange problems...
[14:41] <simplyubuntu> ok ikonia what am i looking for
[14:41] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow : I left it go... But when finished it says that some of the *.exe cab is corrupted and gives me: "pre-removal script sub-process has given error code1"
[14:41] <ikonia> simplyubuntu: differences
[14:41] <iNtERrUpT> X does work. but vnc server crash with "could not open default font 'fixed'"
[14:42] <ikonia> simplyubuntu: check the .plugin folder too
[14:42] <ikonia> simplyubuntu: I assumed you install gnash via apt
[14:42] <ikonia> iNtERrUpT: is that font available to it ?
[14:42] <perfector> in which package can i find the gtk startup-manager tool??
[14:42] <simplyubuntu> yep ikonia
[14:42] <bazhang> xoqa: you have a livecd around? you might want to try booting from the livecd and see if that can acquire an internet connection--hard to know what you have done to your system
[14:42] <dfault312> @ikonia: boot gets past the splash screen, the cursor starts blinking when the bar finishes loading. i disabled the splash screen to see the message about the audio card... where is boot setber?
[14:42] <iNtERrUpT> ikonia, I think it's yes. but vncserver can't detect font 'fixed'
[14:43] <ikonia> dfault312: boot server
[14:43] <ikonia> iNtERrUpT: check if it's installed and available, or change vnc server to use a different font
[14:43] <dfault312> @ikonia: what file on the boot server?
[14:43] <iNtERrUpT> um.. how can i change ?
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: SOmething odd here...How were they installed.  and if you say you used automatix or envy scripts to install anything I am gonna scream..
[14:43] <ikonia> dfault312: I don't know off the top of my head, look in the generic log files, come on, your setting up this environemtn you should know the basicsis
[14:44] <iNtERrUpT> ikonia, how can i change the font?
[14:44] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow : I stay away from Envy or Automatix
[14:44] <bazhang> phew
[14:44] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow : It was installed as a dependency of ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:45] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, there are several vnc-servers....which one have you installed?
[14:45] <dfault312> @ikonia: i just followed the LTSP Quick Install guide... I have no experience with linux, I'm used to M$
[14:45] <luksmann> anybody here who is a real w-lan expert - i am experiencing a very strange problem
[14:45] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, perhaps you shoud use the vnc4server
[14:45] <cleaton> !ask | luksmann
[14:45] <ubotu> luksmann: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:46] <xoqa> bazhang: i'm sure it can get the internet... i'm going to reboot... brb
[14:46] <simplyubuntu> ikonia is copying the working users .mozilla to the other users home dir?
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: Good to know you never tried or used automatix...  We have seen way to many problems these last couple days.  Are you running something under wine in the background ?
[14:46] <iNtERrUpT> ikonia, I am using realvnc.
[14:46] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow :  ps aux | grep wine ........ nothing
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: Oh, and is this a real install or some vm optional setup?
[14:47] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow :  Real install... As I've done it many times before...
[14:47] <dfault312> can anyone help me find the boot logs for my LTSP thin client?
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: Sorry , I am at a loss on this.. maybe after I finish my morning coffee I will have something, hopefully you will get an answer before that.
[14:48] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, vncserver from vnc4server works for me...
[14:48] <Drixx> hey ... i need some help ....
[14:48] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow :  Is there any way I can tell apt-get to remove but don't do configure (pre-remove)???
[14:48] <dfault312> Drixx: be more specific
[14:48] <Drixx> can't mount my external to my laptop ...
[14:48] <iNtERrUpT> Guillem, ... how can i do fix it -_-; help me plz
[14:48] <Drixx> can't mount my external to my laptop ...
[14:48] <dfault312> @Drixx: what happens when you try
[14:49] <luksmann> my intel 3945 wlan card cant connect to my AP as long as I am in my room. as soon as i move about 5m towards the AP the card connects fine and the connection remains stable, even if I move away again. it's only the inital connection that is buggy
[14:49] <Drixx> it says ... " cant mount " try force mount or add a command to /etc/.. n
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: You can purge it, but my concern is the corrupt *.exe cab files... this problem is the tip of the iceberg
[14:50] <dfault312> can anyone help me find the boot logs for my LTSP thin client?
[14:50] <dfault312> @Drixx: im not sure
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> LuCypher: Are you running the repo version of wine or an upgraded version
[14:50] <Drixx> dfault312: this cmd " mount -t ntfs-3g/dev/sdb5/media/New Volume -o force root"
[14:50] <Drixx> to /etc/fstab
[14:51] <Drixx> to /etc/fstab
[14:51] <Drixx> dfault312: to /etc/fstab
[14:51] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, you are executing like this: "vncserver :10", OK?
[14:51] <Drixx> dfault312: how do i do that ?? ..
[14:52] <iNtERrUpT> Guillem, it seems yes, but log file:
[14:52] <iNtERrUpT> Fatal server error:
[14:52] <iNtERrUpT> could not open default font 'fixed'
[14:52] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, in synaptic, I can see :vncserver, vnc4server and xtightvncserver; try installing each one and see if any of them works
[14:52] <dfault312> drixx: go to the terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[14:52] <gvsa123> what do i have to install to play vcd's?
[14:52] <Drixx> Odd-rationale : u there ??
[14:53] <iNtERrUpT> oh, thx. i'll try it.
[14:53] <dfault312> drixx: then add that command into the file
[14:53] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, some of the vncserver do read your xorg.conf to locate the fonts, other do not AFAIK
[14:53] <Drixx> dfault312: ..kk
[14:53] <dfault312> drixx: im not sure if that will work
[14:53] <Drixx> i tried ...
[14:53] <iNtERrUpT> Guillem, oh ic. thx.
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> dfault312: would you not use gksudo for gedit as it is a gui app
[14:53] <Drixx> dfault312: but where in that file ??
[14:53] <dfault312> drixx: did you do a restart after you added that line?
[14:53] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, you can see if your xorg.conf is OK, by launcing "xload -fn fixed" and see if it shows a simmilar error
[14:53] <alephant> Hi all
[14:53] <dfault312> drixx: where is which file?
[14:53] <Drixx> it does'nt add ...
[14:54] <iNtERrUpT> Guillem, i'll try it :D thx
[14:54] <alephant> I've got a somewhat difficult question about releases and package versions:
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[14:54] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:54] <alephant> I didn't ask-to-ask... I began my question in a civilized way.
[14:54] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, if shows an error, check you have a Section "Files" in your xorg.conf  with several FontPath entries starting with /usr/share/fonts/X11
[14:55] <bazhang> alephant: what is the issue
[14:55] <alephant> trying to get to it
[14:55] <iNtERrUpT> ...
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> The point is.. feel free to ask your question.. all on one line.. no lead in is needed.
[14:55] <iNtERrUpT> the section "files" is empty
[14:55] <iNtERrUpT> =_=
[14:55] <dfault312> can anyone help me find the boot logs for my thin client?
[14:56] <Drixx> dfault312: its saved ...
[14:56] <Drixx> shud i reeboot ??
[14:56] <dfault312> drixx: yeah, try that
[14:56] <rajasun> LuCypher: u can try sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.prerm > insert i.e. add "exit 0" after set -e (without the quotes)
[14:56] <Drixx> dfault312: kk ... thnx dude ...
[14:56] <LuCypher> Jack_Sparrow :  Sorry... I was googling... I have no wine installed, but I don't think it's needed, it uses cabextract to install fonts
[14:57] <dfault312> can anyone help me find the boot logs for my thin client?
[14:57] <alephant> I want to install Release Foo.  After it's installed, I want packages bar and baz, plus all of their dependencies.  Is there any way, without manually specifying exact versions, to guarantee that I will get identical versions of those packages, regardless of how many updates to that Release have been made?
[14:57] <alephant> That is, without maintaining my own non-updating package repository.
[14:57] <iNtERrUpT> Guillem, oh, thx. i've fixed.
[14:57] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, nice!
[14:57] <iNtERrUpT> xorg.org, section "files" was empty.
[14:57] <iNtERrUpT> thx.
[14:58] <gvsa123> totem is saying that it needs a vcd protocol source plugin to be able to play vcd's. what do i have to install from synaptic?
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> alephant: So you want an install that you can lock down.. Is that the basic concept?
[14:58] <bazhang> alephant: what packages are you talking about?
[14:58] <alephant> Not so much locking down the install, but guaranteeing that a subsequent install four months later will be identical to the original.
[14:59] <newUser> sudo apt-get install vlc :)
[14:59] <LuCypher> rajasun,  thanks it worked
[14:59] <dfault312> can anyone help me find the boot logs for my thin client?
[14:59] <alephant> bazhang: there are many.  mod_python is the specific offender: it's currently broken in Feisty but wasn't at Feisty's release >:-|
[14:59] <rajasun> LuCypher: np
[14:59] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, nevertheless, you can enable the :0 vnc at either gnome/KDE... in gnome is called "remote desktop" in the preferences menu...
[15:00] <rajasun> LuCypher: trick saved me many times b4 in similar situations. most handy ;)
[15:00] <donkdonk> how do you set the run level for various deamons? i am used the the chkconfig command on red hat.
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> alephant: I would think the dpkg list would give you the exact same setup... but I still think you will end up having to maintain your own mirror..  There is aptoncd that works quite well.
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[15:00] <iNtERrUpT> Guillem, oh ic. thx you're so kind.
[15:01] <LuCypher> rajasun : I'll add it to my how-tos docs
[15:01] <bazhang> alephant: the part I'm wondering about is the guarantee; there are so many variables there that it seems tough to guarantee--what would be the end goal of this? to clone it to another box? or something else
[15:01] <Guillem> iNtERrUpT, you obviously don't know me, Muhaaahaaaa
[15:01] <bazhang> lol Guillem
[15:01] <rajasun> LuCypher: LOL. k.
[15:01] <iNtERrUpT> :D
[15:02] <asc> Is there an easy way to check whether I'm running 32 or 64-bit?
[15:02] <ljsmithx> ok guys
[15:02] <ljsmithx> i've uninstalled automatix
[15:02] <ljsmithx> what now?
[15:02] <asc> (I know which it is, I just need to be able to check...)
[15:02] <bazhang> asc: cant recall what you downloaded?
[15:02] <Guillem> asc, you can check the binaries: file /usr/bin/some_binary
[15:03] <alephant> The ultimate goal is to have a production system that we know works.  When I install from a CD I know it won't be different each time I do it, but if I then add packages from Canonical, the versions may increment over time.
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> alephant: Ok,  back.. nature called
[15:03] <Guillem> asc, also uname -a shows the arch
[15:03] <Guillem> asc, but won't work as you expect within a 32bit chroot....
[15:03] <aladdinsane> why do i have to be superuser to mount this drive:
[15:03] <aladdinsane> UUID /media/Xp        ntfs     user,noauto,rw  0      0
[15:03] <aladdinsane> and not this one:
[15:03] <aladdinsane> UUID /media/Hdd2        ext3     user,noauto,rw  0      0
[15:03] <asc> It works in this case. Thanks.
[15:04] <alephant> So I guess it boils down to the fact that I'm installing from CD and then adding packages from Canonical's repos, without explicitly requesting versions.
[15:04] <ljsmithx> aww
[15:04] <donkdonk> aladdinsane: /media/Xp/ is not in the fstab
[15:04] <bazhang> alephant: aptoncd sounds the safest bet; otherwise you might consider commercial support from canonical
[15:04] <ljsmithx> the thing is that its only the appearance menu that goes funnyt
[15:04] <Guillem> aladdinsane, probably because ntfs needs fuse to access rw (Idon't know really since I do not ntfs at all)
[15:04] <ljsmithx> NO other window does it
[15:04] <Guillem> aladdinsane, I'm talking based on hearings...
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> alephant: I would use a dvd and put all of my var/cache/apt/archives on it as part of the install and lock down the sources list to my cd or dvd.. the concern are the security updates...
[15:05] <Tyczek> asc, getconf LONG_BIT
[15:05] <aladdinsane> donkdonk: what do u mean? that was acopy from fstab
[15:05] <donkdonk> this should be an easy question to answer. how do you set the run level for various deamons? i am used the the chkconfig command on red hat.
[15:05] <Guillem> Tyczek, wow
[15:05] <alephant> What I wish for is a "tag" within a distro... ``-t feisty'' but without pulling in updates since the release.
[15:05] <Tyczek> Guillem, ?
[15:05] <bazhang> ljsmithx: you uninstalled automatix? there may still be problems associated with it, and afaik automatix is not supported here
[15:05] <ljsmithx> so how do i fix it? i want to change things but cant
[15:05] <alephant> donkdonk update-rc.d
[15:05] <Guillem> Tyczek, I didn't know that trick. Interesting!
[15:05] <donkdonk> aladdinsane: then it should be automaticly mounting at boot...
[15:06] <ljsmithx> DAMN YOU AUTOMATIX!
[15:06] <Tyczek> Guillem, magic ;p
[15:06] <Guillem> Tyczek, smart + elegant
[15:06] <bazhang> caps ljsmithx
[15:06] <aladdinsane> donkdonk: as u see i have set it to noauto, and that was not my question
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: You KNOW the answer...
[15:06] <Guillem> Tyczek, getconf is linux-only ?
[15:06] <ljsmithx> I do, but I might go for Mint
[15:06] <donkdonk> aladdinsane: ok, the answer is you always have to be root to mount anything
[15:07] <ljsmithx> so I don't have to download the codecs and stuff again
[15:07] <Tyczek> Guillem, dunno, but in 99 % yes ;p
[15:07] <dgjones> aladdinsane, this is my mount for an ntfs partition - UUID= /media/windows        ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1, maybe that will help
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: Just so you know.. Mint ships with Envy.. similar to automatix.. and Mint has little or no support.. check it out first..
[15:07] <bazhang> ljsmithx: not a wise choice; mint is loads slower than ubuntu; but to each his own good luck!
[15:07] <ljsmithx> I just don't understand what automatix has done to break my appearance menu
[15:07] <alephant> donkdonk: you *don't* have to be root to mount; root can allow users to mount specific devices in /etc/fstab
[15:07] <hk2999> how do i add a shared network folder to exaile? rhythmbox can do it though.
[15:08] <ljsmithx> Ok guys, I have found my ubuntu install disk
[15:08] <aladdinsane> donkdonk: no thats not true, as i said, i can mount the first drive without a problem, isn't that what the "user" command does in fstab?
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: Read the link under automatix.. it explains how it breaks your system and why it is so hard to fix
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix > ljsmithx
[15:08] <ljsmithx> !automatix | ljsmithx
[15:08] <ljsmithx> :O
[15:08] <ljsmithx> !automatix
[15:08] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:09] <aladdinsane> dgjones: ok, but i want my drive NOT to mount at start-up, hence the noauto, but then i would like to be able to mount it as user when i need to
[15:09] <Poundo>  is there an xml or RSS feeds channel anyone knows about? I am having a problem with google reader and a feed I created and would like to bounce a question off someone.
[15:09] <gvsa123> hey anyone, what's the plugin i need to have totem play vcd's?
[15:09] <astabeno> aladdinsane use the 3dfg utility for read write
[15:09] <brobostigon> qvsa123:vlc
[15:09] <ljsmithx> I WISH I knew about this before installing, there should be a thing on the forums...
[15:10] <brobostigon> gvsa123: vlc
[15:10] <ljsmithx> installing automatix
[15:10] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to sync a Samsung F700 with Ubuntu 7.10?
[15:10] <gvsa123> brobostigon: but that's a whole new player right?
[15:10] <brobostigon> gvsa123: yep
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: This are lots of warnings, but there are also a lot of worksforme out there..
[15:11] <j_> hello
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: Of course worksforme.. until the next update.. seldom gets posted.
[15:11] <gvsa123> brobostigon: isn't totem just missing a plugin?
[15:11] <ljsmithx> Ok, I wont leave ubuntu yet.
[15:11] <luksmann> my intel 3945 wlan card cant connect to my AP as long as I am in my room. as soon as i move about 5m towards the AP the card connects fine and the connection remains stable, even if I move away again. it's only the inital connection that is buggy
[15:12] <brobostigon> gvsa123: no idea, but vlc definatly plays vcds.
[15:12] <aladdinsane> astabeno: 3dfg? well, i pesonally think this must be a simple issue to solve, i mean if i use auto instead of noauto in fstab it mounts perfectly at boot up
[15:12] <ljsmithx> I'll back up my things to dvd then install again
[15:12] <ljsmithx> :)
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: SInce you are reinstalling anyway, feel free to check it out.. You will feel much better about your choice of Ubuntu when you return
[15:12] <borbus> Hi, someone on the forum said that the real time kernel will make performance worse? Is this true? Is making a low latency kernel by recompiling better?
[15:13] <ljsmithx> check what out Jack_Sparrow?
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: mint
[15:13] <ljsmithx> ok
[15:13] <ljsmithx> another thing
[15:13] <gvsa123> brobostigon: hmmm... i'd like to have just one app to handle movies as much as possible...
[15:13] <ljsmithx> I have lots of bookmarks and stuff I don't want to lose. is there a way to save them to txt or something?
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: It is cute...  I installed it on a spare partition I use for testing.. and FYI extra partitions and a seperate /home are great to have
[15:14] <brobostigon> gvsa123: i dont knw about totem, but my recommendation for vcds is vlc.
[15:14] <ljsmithx> cool
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: You can export your bookmarks or even mail them to yourself if you want
[15:14] <luksmann> nobody here who can help me?
[15:14] <brobostigon> gvsa123: and vlc plays every movie format in existance pretty much
[15:15] <solarisis> hello can anyone help me with runnung gg-client
[15:15] <ljsmithx> From the live CD?
[15:15] <solarisis> ya
[15:15] <gvsa123> brobostigon: thanks though. i'll try to see if i can make totem work before getting vlc
[15:15] <brobostigon> ok
[15:15] <alephant> luksmann: wish I could.  I have similar weirdness with the same chipset.
[15:15] <bemous> how can i install jabber
[15:15] <bemous> ?
[15:15] <alephant> luksmann: try iwl3945 perhaps?
[15:15] <gvsa123> brobostigon: i have on my xp also... :)
[15:16] <luksmann> alephant: at least i'm not alone
[15:16] <brobostigon> bemous: pidgin
[15:16] <bemous> ?
[15:16] <iNtERrUpT> bemous, pidgin supports jabber plugin.
[15:16] <luksmann> alephant: happens in static ip and dynamic mode - i just have to get near enough to the AP then everything workds
[15:16] <ljsmithx> \
[15:16] <bemous> tell me more
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: You cant get to your ubuntu install in safe mode or any other way?...  then you can do it live...
[15:17] <hellboy195> can someone help me with k3b? flac is installed but it refuses to add .flac files
[15:17] <brobostigon> !pidgin | bemous
[15:17] <ubotu> bemous: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[15:17] <bemous> thanks
[15:18] <aladdinsane> anybody know how to create a ram-drive in fstab? i would like to use it for temp files
[15:18] <ljsmithx> Jack_Sparrow, I'm re-installing ubuntu because of no support for anuthing if I have or had automatix. I want to keep my bookmarks that I have right now in firefox.
[15:18] <ljsmithx> I want to export them
[15:18] <ljsmithx> but to the live cd
[15:19] <brobostigon> ljsmithx: backup you firefox dir in your home folder.
[15:19] <ljsmithx> how do i do that?
[15:19] <ljsmithx> copy paste?
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: Yuo cant export to the livecd.. it is a CD Rom.. you can save them to a usb stick or to another partition or send via email.
[15:20] <brobostigon> yep
[15:20] <ljsmithx> ok
[15:20] <void^> aladdinsane: mount a tmpfs anywhere you like
[15:20] <ljsmithx> thanks for the help guys
[15:20] <ljsmithx> cya
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: I find mine in /user/.mozilla/firefox/rbbhl8lp.defaults/bookmarks.html
[15:20] <aladdinsane> void^: ok how do i mount it on my ram?
[15:21] <kikr> Flash  is still broken =(
[15:21] <UBUNTUISLOVED> ive got dual display working but i cant seem to make my laptop the default screen and Not the LCD attached?
[15:21] <Peeco> In terms of boot times and general usage, is ubuntu likely to be quicker/more responsive etc than xp on an older laptop?
[15:21] <cypr1nus> hi, i've got a problem: i've got iso files, and want to mount or open them in mc, but i can't - mc hows red box and: CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format. What's wrong?
[15:22] <cypr1nus> mc shows*
[15:22] <sandr-> UBUNTUISLOVED: I have a setup that I maintain with xrandr
[15:22] <UBUNTUISLOVED> huh?
[15:22] <ljsmithx> i just thought of something!
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Peeco: How much ram in the old laptop
[15:22] <bazhang> Peeco: this is not really a chat channel; lots of web links out there comparing the two
[15:22] <ljsmithx> how do i run the appearance from the terminal?
[15:22] <Peeco> around 350
[15:22] <ljsmithx> whats the comman?