[01:47] <Bob_> just wondered if there's an estimated "back online" time for Ubuntu One Notes
[01:51] <Bob_> I see there is an update "status: In Progress → Fix Released" which sounds promising ... thx ...
[03:16] <duanedesign> bo/5
[03:50] <lyt3310> Any one know when will Note and Bookmark services be avilable?
[03:52] <duanedesign> hello lyt3310
[03:54] <duanedesign> lyt3310: i dont think there is an estimate yet on how long the disruption will last.
[05:50] <michele> hi?
[05:50] <michele> does anyone know what the issue with ubuntu one is right now?
[05:53] <duanedesign> hello michele
[08:10] <andrestepeite> zzz..
[09:18] <duanedesign> morning all
[09:27] <rye> wow import appindicator "imports" 15Mb
[09:28] <rye> duanedesign, morning!
[09:33] <Xenios_> hi
[09:33] <Xenios_> where is the music store in ubuntuone, I read about?
[09:34] <duanedesign> hello Xenios_
[09:34] <Xenios_> hi duanedesign
[09:34] <duanedesign> Xenios_: you can get to the music store using Rhythmbox
[09:34] <Xenios_> ah, only with rythmbox
[09:34] <Xenios_> I looked for it on the page.
[09:34] <Xenios_> thx
[09:34] <duanedesign> and Banshee
[09:34] <Xenios_> any chance to use it with Amarok?
[09:35] <duanedesign> not that i am aware of. that is a good idea though!
[09:35] <Xenios_> yes, I think so. :) I'm on #rokymotion, so I will suggest that
[09:36] <Xenios_> one more question: is it possible to share a folder without the guest has to create an ubuntuone account?
[09:37] <duanedesign> Xenios_: files yes, folders no
[09:38] <Xenios_> so if I want to share a bunch of pictures for example, I will have to share each one seperately or the guest has to create an account?
[09:38] <duanedesign> right now folders can only be shared with other ubuntuone users. Files however can be shared with anyone through a public url
[09:38] <Xenios_> ok, thx very much :)
[09:38] <duanedesign> your welcome :)
[10:14] <diverse_izzue> hi all. my U1 claims it's doing a local rescan, but i don't believe that, because it's been claiming that for a long time now.
[10:18] <rye> diverse_izzue, is that u1sdtool --status that says LOCAL_RESCAN ?
[10:19] <diverse_izzue> rye, yes
[10:20] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please pastebin your ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log ?
[10:20] <rye> erm
[10:20] <rye> diverse_izzue, ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[10:21] <diverse_izzue> rye, http://pastebin.com/QQ1tTuSU
[10:21] <rye> diverse_izzue, maverick ?
[10:21] <diverse_izzue> rye, yes
[10:21] <rye> diverse_izzue, is /home/hunzikea/NBI a UDF ?
[10:22] <rye> diverse_izzue, basically it is stuck due to exception
[10:22] <diverse_izzue> rye, i am synching this folder, yes. since recently
[10:22] <rye> diverse_izzue, what does u1sdtool --list-folders say ?
[10:23] <diverse_izzue> rye, it says what i would expect it to say
[10:23] <diverse_izzue> the folder NBI is subscribed=True
[10:23] <rye> diverse_izzue, i mean whether NBI folder is there ah ok
[10:27] <rye> diverse_izzue, looking into what can make the UDF to be rescanned
[10:37] <diverse_izzue> rye, thanks. let me know if you need any more info. should i check whether quitting and restarting the daemon helps?
[10:38] <rye> diverse_izzue, you could check, yes, but I don't feel it would help. I'll be glad to prove myself wrong though
[10:39] <diverse_izzue> rye, HAH!
[10:40] <diverse_izzue> it finishes the rescan
[10:40] <diverse_izzue> http://pastebin.com/AAxyQfd9
[10:41] <diverse_izzue> if i had to guess, i would guess that it fails after suspend/resume
[10:42] <rye> diverse_izzue, ?
[10:42] <rye> diverse_izzue, wow
[10:42] <rye> diverse_izzue, by suspend/resume you mean... were you syncing the data during suspend?
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> rye, what do you mean by syncing data during suspend?
[10:45] <rye> diverse_izzue, i mean whether you were syncing something and suspended your computer in the middle of sync, something like this
[10:47] <diverse_izzue> rye, i remember i waited for the queue to be empty when i first synced that folder before i suspended
[10:47] <diverse_izzue> so, no
[10:48] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, i am adding this to TODO list and will ask verterok/facundobatista about it. I am also wondering about how it got recovered.
[10:50] <diverse_izzue> rye, it didn't recover really. just observed that some files that i added this morning are not uploaded even though u1sdtool says it's now idle
[10:51] <rye> diverse_izzue, i mean that it got past LOCAL_RESCAN after the restart
[10:51] <diverse_izzue> ah
[10:51] <rye> diverse_izzue, were those files synchronized now?
[10:51] <diverse_izzue> rye, no they are not
[10:51] <diverse_izzue> but they are not in --waiting-content
[10:51] <rye> diverse_izzue, okay, could you please run u1sdtool --info on the path?
[10:52] <rye> diverse_izzue, in maverick no full path is required - cd $folder; u1sdtool --info $filename
[10:54] <diverse_izzue> rye, crashes http://pastebin.com/tg1xHGXT
[10:54] <rye> uh-huh
[10:55] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please ask it to try resyncing - u1sdtool --rescan-from-scratch=VOLUME_ID (for NBI folder)
[10:55] <diverse_izzue> is the volume_id this uuid like number?
[10:55] <rye> diverse_izzue, yes
[10:57] <diverse_izzue> rye, done, what is supposed to happen?
[10:57] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please now run u1sdtool --info /home/hunzikea/NBI ?
[10:57] <rye> diverse_izzue, it should request server info about the share and perform a merge
[10:58] <diverse_izzue> rye, http://pastebin.com/XjkJWFr9
[10:58] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please run u1sdtool --waiting-content now?
[10:58] <diverse_izzue> rye, still empty
[10:59] <rye> diverse_izzue, and in u1sdtool --waiting-metadata ?
[10:59] <diverse_izzue> also empty
[11:01] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, u1sdtool --refresh-volumes
[11:01] <rye> diverse_izzue, and could you please re-run u1sdtool --info on that file ?
[11:02] <diverse_izzue> rye, still get a traceback
[11:03] <diverse_izzue> http://pastebin.com/9jiPE52F
[11:03] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, let's ask it to do a full rescan by restarting it, it should rescan that dir now - u1sdtool --quit; u1sdtool --start
[11:05] <diverse_izzue> rye, now i have the segfaults in the syncdaemon log again
[11:05] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please pastebin it again?
[11:06] <diverse_izzue> http://pastebin.com/FFWwZRQs
[11:08] <rye> great, it removed metadata again
[11:09] <rye> diverse_izzue, could you please do find ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/trash -type f | wc -l ?
[11:14] <diverse_izzue> 0
[11:14] <rye> diverse_izzue, is that folder showing up in the web ui?
[11:15] <diverse_izzue> yes
[11:15] <diverse_izzue> it was originally successfully synced
[11:16] <diverse_izzue> rye, going for lunch, back in 30 minutes
[11:16] <rye> diverse_izzue, ok, in case I don't come up with anything I will poke chicharra guys
[11:16] <rye> when they appear here
[11:38]  * pedronis lunch
[12:24] <rye> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ#How%20do%20I%20remove%20a%20folder%20I%20previously%20selected%20to%20synchronize%20with%20Ubuntu%20One? - grrr, i hate %20
[12:43] <stu> hi im trying to use my contacts in ubuntu one but it tells me thers a problem how long till this sorted
[12:43] <duanedesign> hello stu
[12:43] <stu> hi ya
[12:44] <duanedesign> stu: i havent heard an estimate yet on how long till they fix the Couch server.
[12:45] <stu> its not a big deal just wondered lol
[12:45] <duanedesign> stu: you can get the latest on the status at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[12:45] <stu> nice one many thx
[12:45] <duanedesign> stu: no problem :)
[12:45] <stu> see ya have a nice day
[12:46] <duanedesign> you too o/
[12:50] <jmcs> I'm having problems synchronizing files with ubuntu one. It always says the quota was exceeded, but there wasn't any file on the account yet, and the files I'm attempting to sync don't even get close to the account quota.
[12:52] <duanedesign> hello jmcs
[12:54] <duanedesign> jmcs: let me look, i think there is a bug report on that.
[12:54] <duanedesign> jmcs: Are you using Maverick?
[12:55] <jmcs> duanedesign: yes.
[12:56] <duanedesign> bug #650671
[12:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 650671 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "UbuntuOne "out of space" dialog is broken (affects: 1) (heat: 487)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650671
[12:57] <duanedesign> oops thats not it
[12:57] <jmcs> Well now that I see it, I'm also having the same problem... 2 bugs in one day...
[12:58] <graphiclunarkid> honk
[12:58] <duanedesign> jmcs: can you open a terminal and run command: ubuntuone-preferences
[12:59] <rye> facundobatista, hi, may I poke you about this - http://pastebin.com/FFWwZRQs
[12:59] <rye> graphiclunarkid, hi
[12:59] <graphiclunarkid> rye: Hi! I have an odd problem with the new Ubuntu One sign-up wizard on Maverick Netbook edition: on an English (United Kingdom) keyboard layout with English (United Kingdom) as the system language, if I type '@' in the email address text-box it prints as Ω. This only happens in that particular text-field - elsewhere in the OS the correct character is printed.
[12:59] <duanedesign> jmcs: hopefully it will print something useful to the screen
[13:00] <graphiclunarkid> rye: It's preventing me from creating an account. Any ideas?
[13:00] <rye> graphiclunarkid, let me start up the netbook with en_GB layout to test this. Another question - are you running within Unity ?
[13:00] <duanedesign> jmcs: could you post any result from that command http://pastebin.ca/
[13:00] <jmcs> duanedesign: I gives some error with dbus
[13:00] <graphiclunarkid> rye: Yes, I'm running the Unity interface.
[13:01] <duanedesign> jmcs: ok
[13:01] <rye> graphiclunarkid, ok, give me 10 minutes, will update the netbook and test SSO dialog
[13:02] <graphiclunarkid> rye: Hang on a sec
[13:02] <duanedesign> jmcs: can you run this command.  killall ubuntu-sso-login; u1sdtool -q
[13:03] <duanedesign> jmcs: then open the Ubuntu One Preferences from the Me Menu
[13:03] <graphiclunarkid> rye: I think I'm about to feel like an idiot. I'm using synergy so I can use a bigger keyboard on my netbook. Typing over that interface produces Omega. Typing on the actual netbook produces @ symbol as expected!
[13:03]  * graphiclunarkid is a bit slow today!
[13:03] <rye> synergy?
[13:04] <rye> graphiclunarkid, aha, i got it
[13:04] <graphiclunarkid> rye: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[13:05] <graphiclunarkid> rye: So short story is the character set being used by synergy doesn't work correctly for that particular text-field (but it does everywhere else). Probably not a bug in Ubuntu One, therefore, however still interesting!
[13:06] <rye> graphiclunarkid, though i wonder about how did omega end up on the keyboard in en_GB... ok, let me see whether there is something interesting with the code for that field
[13:07] <jmcs> duanedesign: it only says "ubuntuone-syncdeamon still running"
[13:08] <duanedesign> jmcs: ok. can you run:   u1sdtool -s
[13:08] <graphiclunarkid> rye: Same happens if I type '@' in the captcha input field
[13:08] <rye> graphiclunarkid, ok, nothing interesting in that field, it is processed the same way as others... Is that happening on both email entry fields?
[13:09] <graphiclunarkid> rye: And yes, it happens in both email entry fields. Just gonna go through the rest of the keyboard and see if there are any more interesting effects.
[13:09] <duanedesign> jmcs: and post what that returns.
[13:11] <duanedesign> jmcs: i think what you need to do is run the following command while the Ubuntu One Preferences window is open.
[13:11] <duanedesign> dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.ubuntu.sso /credentials com.ubuntu.sso.ApplicationCredentials.login_to_get_credentials "string:Ubuntu One" "string:Workaround for LP:657850" int64:0
[13:12] <duanedesign> if you have trouble copy and pasting out of irc client the command can also be found here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/657850/comments/3
[13:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 657850 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Ubuntu One Preferences applet doesn't display info properly (affects: 2) (heat: 1731)" [High,Confirmed]
[13:14] <graphiclunarkid> rye: No other transposed characters on the local keyboard or via synergy. Just the omega
[13:14] <jmcs> duanedesign: I only got this:
[13:14] <jmcs> Oops, an error ocurred:
[13:14] <jmcs> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13:14] <jmcs> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[13:15] <duanedesign> jmcs: that is what you got from running u1sdtool -s? or the second, long command?
[13:15] <jmcs> with u1sdtool -s.
[13:16] <jmcs> I hadn't seen the other one yet... I'll try it now
[13:16] <duanedesign> jmcs: run that long one with the U1 Preferences window open
[13:18] <graphiclunarkid> rye: OK, I've just managed to get Omega to print instead of @ in Gedit after flicking between the two keyboards a bit. I guess this is a Synergy bug not a problem with Ubuntu One.
[13:19] <rye> graphiclunarkid, hm, do you have any greek layout?
[13:19] <graphiclunarkid> rye: No - all my machines are set to en_GB exclusively.
[13:20] <jmcs> I got this "method return sender=:1.182 -> dest=:1.190 reply_serial=2"
[13:21] <jmcs> duanedesign: it refreshed the information on the preference dialog but didn't solve the problem
[13:26] <graphiclunarkid> rye: Thanks very much for your help - I guess I should have a chat to the people behind Synergy to see if there's a bug in that code which could cause this sort of behaviour.
[13:26] <rye> graphiclunarkid, you are welcome
[13:26] <psypher246> rye: yay to rye, no more catting logs and grepping for MARK to see how far my 10000 files are with indexing
[13:26] <psypher246> indicator applet ftw!
[13:26] <graphiclunarkid> rye: I'll continue to lurk here for a while in case any other thoughts or questions occur. Nice chatting with you :)
[13:26] <rye> duanedesign, i suspect there is "available = None"  in the log somewhere for jmcs - that means client has not connected to the server and does not know whether there is any free space or not
[13:28] <diverse_izzue> rye, any news?
[13:28] <rye> facundobatista, ^
[13:29] <rye> facundobatista, here's the log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/512349/
[13:30] <duanedesign> jmcs: can you run:  killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon; u1sdtool -c
[13:31] <facundobatista> rye, a ver...
[13:31] <rye> facundobatista, maverick
[13:31] <rye> facundobatista, ah, verterok, well, will wait for him...
[13:32] <facundobatista> rye, which conversation should I follow?
[13:32] <rye> facundobatista, diverse_izzue and rye
[13:32] <facundobatista> rye, ah, the log you said is the conversation log, not the syncdaemon log :p
[13:32]  * facundobatista reads
[13:32] <rye> facundobatista, yes :)
[13:33] <jmcs> duanedesign: it gives the same dbus error as before
[13:36] <facundobatista> rye, diverse_izzue: I'd need debug logs
[13:37] <facundobatista> diverse_izzue, please, after setting the logs in DEBUG, restart the client, wait for it to finish doing whatever it needs to do, and give me the logs, please
[13:38] <rye> diverse_izzue, u1sdtoo --quit; wait for it to finish, then run /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug 2>&1 | tee ~/syncdaemon-debug.log
[13:39] <duanedesign> jmcs: ok can you run:  killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon    then: ps aux | grep ubu
[13:39] <graphiclunarkid> rye: FYI re omega / @ bug: definitely Synergy. Sorry for going off half-cocked earlier! http://synergy-foss.org/pm/issues/72
[13:40] <rye> graphiclunarkid, well, thanks for the info, now i know something more so in case this happens again we will have a definite answer
[13:40] <duanedesign> jmcs: when you run the 2nd command look to see if  ubuntuone-syncdaemon still shows up
[13:41] <graphiclunarkid> rye: Indeed :o)
[13:42]  * graphiclunarkid must stop using that emoticon in Empathy!
[13:44] <jmcs> duanedesign: no it doesn't show up
[13:45] <duanedesign> jmcs: ok
[13:46] <duanedesign> jmcs: can you run:  u1sdtool --start
[13:47] <duanedesign> jmcs: if that doesn't give a dbus error, then run:  u1sdtool --connect
[13:49] <jmcs> duanedesign: it still gives the dbus error
[13:51] <duanedesign> jml: is the preferences window open?
[13:53] <jmcs> duanedesign: not right now
[13:53] <duanedesign> rye: ping
[13:54] <rye> duanedesign, pong
[13:54] <duanedesign> rye: cant seem to get syncdaemon restarted
[13:54] <duanedesign> rye: always dbus error for all u1sdtool commands
[13:55] <duanedesign> mattgriffin: good morning
[13:57] <crappingtaco> Hey quick question for anyone that can help. Does anyone know the ubuntu one streaming address for using another client like iSub or Subsonic for Android? I can't find the address after checking all the support info.
[13:57] <duanedesign> hello crappingtaco
[13:57] <duanedesign> crappingtaco: i do
[13:57] <rye> duanedesign, is is running? ps aux | grep [u]buntuone-syncdaemon ?
[13:57] <crappingtaco> Awesome, what is it good sir?
[13:58] <duanedesign> jmcs: is syncdaemon running?     ps aux | grep [u]buntuone-syncdaemon
[13:59] <jmcs> duanedesign: not right now. I killed because the "out of space" dialog was getting annoying.
[14:00] <duanedesign> rapha: seems strange that it is not running but u1sdtool -c still gives dbus error
[14:00] <duanedesign> crappingtaco:looking
[14:00] <crappingtaco> duanedesign: thanks
[14:01] <mattgriffin> duanedesign: good morning!
[14:01] <duanedesign> crappingtaco: https://streaming.one.ubuntu.com
[14:02] <duanedesign> mattgriffin: i was going over my toDo list. I noticed i had helped a user over the weekend with a music store issue. I was not able to resolve it.
[14:03] <duanedesign> mattgriffin: i had them file a bug so I could follow up and get them some help
[14:04] <crappingtaco> duanedesign: thanks, now testing connection works, but I'm getting a user name issue. Do you know what format it uses? I'm using<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and my ubuntu one password
[14:04] <jblount> crappingtaco: You'll want to use the credentials at https://one.ubuntu.com/phones I think
[14:04] <mattgriffin> duanedesign: ok. cool.
[14:04] <duanedesign> crappingtaco: heh, sounds like you did the same thing  i did
[14:04] <duanedesign> mattgriffin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store/+bug/657824
[14:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 657824 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store "some music transferred to u1 storage, some not (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[14:05] <mattgriffin> crappingtaco, duanedesign: i'm adding an item to our FAQ that covers how to use an unsupported app like iSub
[14:05] <duanedesign> crappingtaco: it is your mobile username and password
[14:05] <crappingtaco> duanedesign, matgriffin: awesome, I guess i was thinking logically, how silly of me :D
[14:06] <duanedesign> crappingtaco: you can get your mobile username and password here https://one.ubuntu.com/phones/
[14:08] <crappingtaco> duanedesign: thanks, its working now. I wanted to use a second app to see if i'm still having an issue with songs i deleted still showing, and they do. They don't play though so its weird, like just a link was left not the file, guess i'll keep tinkering away. Thanks for the help though.
[14:08] <rye> jmcs, could you please pastebin your ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ?
[14:09] <duanedesign> crappingtaco: yeah i just installed isub a couple days ago so i am still new to it myself
[14:11] <jblount> crappingtaco: There is a service that goes throw and identifies .mp3 files, so it's possible that service hasn't come through and removed the ones you deleted yet.
[14:12] <crappingtaco> jblount: Hmmm, anyway to manually trigger the service?
[14:13] <jblount> crappingtaco: Do you see the 'Scan my files' button here? https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ You could try clicking that (I'm not sure if it'll work for this though)
[14:15] <crappingtaco> jblount: No I don't see any scan my files button. I have a lot of files, looks like it is still syncing them, maybe it needs to finish all of the files before it goes and cleans old ones out. I'll give it some time to finish, thanks though.
[14:16] <crappingtaco> jblount: maybe thats also why album artwork isn't showing either
[14:19] <jmcs> nye: the current version is this: http://pastebin.com/upX6wdai
[14:19] <jmcs> I've also made a copy of an earlier log: http://pastebin.com/AYWDfXSW
[14:22] <rye> available: None
[14:23] <rye> i like it so much
[14:23] <rye> jmcs, ok, is syncdaemon running now?
[14:24] <jmcs> rye: ye
[14:24] <jmcs> *yes
[14:24] <rye> jmcs, ok, whenever you try to run u1sdtool --status it throws a DBus timeout, right?
[14:27] <jmcs> i've moved the files to another folder to stop the dialog and now it doesn't give an error, it only says:
[14:27] <jmcs> State: READY
[14:27] <jmcs>     connection: Not User With Network
[14:27] <jmcs>     description: ready to connect
[14:27] <jmcs>     is_connected: False
[14:27] <jmcs>     is_error: False
[14:27] <jmcs>     is_online: False
[14:27] <jmcs>     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[14:32] <rye> jmcs, ok, could you please open seahorse (System / Preferences / Passwords and Encryption Keys). Do you see the entries such as 'UbuntuOne token for http://ubuntuone.com' or 'Ubuntu One' ?
[14:34] <jmcs> rye: yes
[14:35] <rye> jmcs, could you please remove these tokens, then run killall ubuntu-sso-client in the terminal and then run u1sdtool --connect ?
[14:35] <jmcs> Should I also remove the desktopcouch ones?
[14:36] <duanedesign> jmcs: no
[14:38] <jmcs> rye: duanedesign: it's working now. thank you. Do you have any idea why I had the problem?
[14:40] <duanedesign> jmcs: did this happen after you upgraded to Maverick?
[14:40] <rye> jmcs, it looks like you were using older package previously that did not update metadata info for the storage. I am not sure what version it is and what causes such behavior. Since you managed to get to READY state it means that subsequent connection attempt would fix the metadata and it will be synchronized with the server's info on available storage. Removing of the tokens just saved us from tracking OAuth-related issues.
[14:41] <jmcs> duanedesign: Yes, but on that particular computer I had never used ubuntu one
[16:58] <rapha> duanedesign: what is not running?
[17:01] <duanedesign> hello rapha
[17:03] <duanedesign> rapha:i am sorry, what is your question
[17:15] <rapha> duanedesign: hi ... you said "15:00 < duanedesign> rapha: seems strange that it is not running but u1sdtool -c still gives dbus error" - I don't understand...
[17:20] <duanedesign> rapha: i am sorry that was supposed to be for someone else :P
[17:20] <duanedesign> i should be a bit more careful with those Tab-Completes
[17:23] <rapha> duanedesign: oh sorry then :P
[17:24] <duanedesign> rapha: np :)
[17:55] <commodoor> Hi everyone
[17:56] <commodoor> I have a question about U1
[17:56] <commodoor> can someone please help me?
[17:57] <rapha> commodoor: it's probably best if you just ask away, so the right person can get back to you once they see it.
[17:57] <commodoor> ok
[17:58] <commodoor> I have now U1 + 20Gb so i started uploading my files (slowly). but now it's stuck
[17:58] <commodoor> it doesn't upload anything
[17:58] <commodoor> it's stuck with meta
[17:58] <commodoor> is there a way to reset the metacheck?
[18:00] <commodoor> or can it be something else?
[18:01] <commodoor> i t searched the net but couldn't find anything. i tried (i think) everything
[18:01] <rye> commodoor, could you please tell me what is u1sdtool --status?
[18:02] <commodoor> State: QUEUE_MANAGER
[18:02] <commodoor>     connection: With User With Network
[18:02] <commodoor>     description: processing queues
[18:02] <commodoor>     is_connected: True
[18:02] <commodoor>     is_error: False
[18:02] <commodoor>     is_online: True
[18:02] <commodoor>     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[18:04] <rye> commodoor, please wait
[18:05] <rye> commodoor, ok, are you running Maverick?
[18:05] <commodoor> yes, upgrade
[18:07] <rye> commodoor, ok, could you please pastebin the output of grep MARK ~/.cache/ubuntuone/logs/syncdaemon.log to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[18:08] <rapha> btw rye, are you the one who wrote the ubuntuone-indicator?
[18:08] <rye> rapha, yes, "hacked up" is a better term for the time being
[18:08] <duanedesign> ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[18:08] <commodoor> yhe find it :P
[18:09] <rye> duanedesign, thanks!
[18:09] <duanedesign> :)
[18:09] <commodoor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/512506/
[18:10] <rye> um
[18:10] <rye> okay
[18:10] <rye> commodoor, could you please pastebin the whole log?
[18:10] <commodoor> ok
[18:11] <commodoor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/512508/
[18:11] <rye> commodoor, hm, let me re-check the service state
[18:14] <rye> commodoor, based on "failure: TRY_AGAIN" the service replies that it could not have processed the file and client retries
[18:15] <commodoor> hmm
[18:15] <commodoor> so what can i do about it
[18:15] <commodoor> i tried removing the folder
[18:16] <rye> commodoor, have you tried shutting down syncdaemon and starting it again when you said "i tried (i think) everything" ?
[18:16] <commodoor> yes i tried
[18:16] <commodoor> i used u1sdtool --quit
[18:17] <rapha> rye: well, hacked up or not, I've never felt comfy using U1 until now. So thanks a lot for it!
[18:18] <rye> rapha, when it is awesome and i am happy about the code completely it will get a big number, like 1.0. Thanks. Frankly speaking i did not expect such kind of an interest to the thing that enabled me to post public links faster :)
[18:19] <commodoor> i'ts really weird that it's stuck
[18:21] <commodoor> i also read somewhere that it won't start updating till meta is 0
[18:21] <commodoor> updating = uploading
[18:21] <rye> commodoor, yes, trying to summon somebody
[18:21] <rye> commodoor, meta is 0, it's the content that's stuck
[18:22] <rye> commodoor, ok, let's try to debug it the hard way
[18:22] <rye> commodoor, u1sdtool --quit
[18:22] <commodoor> your indicator says meta 1
[18:22] <commodoor> ok
[18:22] <rye> commodoor, /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug 2>&1 | tee ~/syncdaemon-debug.log
[18:23] <rye> commodoor, are you running the indicator from ppa ?
[18:23] <commodoor> yes
[18:24] <rye> commodoor, ok, now in another terminal please run u1sdtool --connect
[18:24] <commodoor> done
[18:24] <rye> commodoor, now you should start seeing some output in the terminal where syncdaemo is running in debug mode
[18:25] <commodoor> yes
[18:25] <rye> commodoor, is there anything with TRY_AGAIN too ?
[18:25] <commodoor> let me look
[18:26] <rye> commodoor, actually could you please pastebin the ~/syncdaemon-debug.log ?
[18:27] <commodoor> ok
[18:28] <commodoor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/512519/
[18:29] <rye> commodoor, ok, let's actually wait for it to do something useful...
[18:30] <commodoor> it says synchronizing metadata and content
[18:31] <rye> commodoor, ok, could you please re-paste the log?
[18:32] <commodoor> ok, debug was already on, so have 12240 lines :P
[18:32] <rye> commodoor, wow, but I am ready to read that :)
[18:33] <commodoor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/512523/
[18:33] <commodoor> haha a little too much for me "{
[18:35] <commodoor> u1sdtool --waiting-metadata < shows one entry
[18:36] <rye> commodoor, btw, to paste these things faster - install pastebinit application and configure it like http://blog.rtg.in.ua/2009/11/pastebinit-defaults.html
[18:39] <commodoor> ok pastebinit is setup
[18:40] <verterok> rye: hi
[18:40] <rye> commodoor, after you add that xml config you will be simply running pastebinit ~/syncdaemon-debug.log and it will return you the URL
[18:41] <commodoor> here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/512531/
[18:42] <rye> verterok, hi and thanks for joining us. commodoor's syncdaemon is stuck at file uploading. My 2 vm and current account do not exhibit any issues of such kind - http://paste.ubuntu.com/512531/
[18:44] <verterok> rye: it might be the server being stuck :(
[18:44] <verterok> rye: I don't see any errors in the log
[18:46] <verterok> rye: getting server logs, will try to chase it down there
[18:48] <rye> verterok, thanks
[18:49] <commodoor> so i have to wait
[18:49] <commodoor> ?
[18:49] <rye> verterok, what does TRY_AGAIN in Move mean? It cannot move somewhere?
[18:50] <rye> commodoor, you may want to send the message to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you are unable to stay online so that when we find out what's wrong we will be able to keep you updated
[18:50] <verterok> rye: the server failed to do move, and request the client to try again (might be a load or locking issue)
[18:50] <rye> commodoor, though we may need some client debug still
[18:50] <verterok> rye, commodoor: you can try restaring the client
[18:51] <rye> verterok, we already tried that
[18:51] <verterok> hmm, weird
[18:53] <commodoor> i don't have much time left i have to got, so what do i do should i mail support?
[18:54] <spilak> hi guy
[18:54] <rye> commodoor, yes, please, this way we will be able to track this issue
[18:55] <commodoor> ok i will send the debug log and describe the problem
[18:55] <rapha> rye: The amount of interest is probably explained by the fear humans have of things they don't feel in control over ... if I knew how to do it, I'd make it so that the little cloud icon shows the percentage of the sync by "filling up" with a sort of progress bar :)
[18:56] <commodoor> ok thnx guys
[18:57] <commodoor> i'm off, later i will send a mail to support and hope it will get fixed.
[19:04] <reya276> How can I get my Ubuntu one contacts sync to my Evolution contacts?
[19:05] <reya276> for some reason my Ubuntu One contacts do not show
[19:06] <rye> reya276, Please see the current status on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status#Contacts
[19:07] <reya276> thanks
[19:08] <reya276> rye, I don't have Maverick, I'm still on lucid but this has always been an issue.
[19:10] <rye> reya276, we are now searching for a way to get updated couchdb into lucid (or backport a pretty big ssl-related fix) that would allow lucid lynx users to synchronize their data. Replication has been down for several months.
[19:11] <reya276> oh I see, thanks I will wait until this is fix then, awesome stuff you guys got going
[19:19] <rye> verterok, am I able to assist anyhow in searching for relevant data for that TRY_AGAIN issue?
[19:19] <verterok> rye: logs just finished syncing, running grep ATM to find the server :)
[19:21] <verterok> rye: once I get the logs filtered I'll check if it was the server being stuck
[19:24] <verterok> rye: I don't see any hung requests on the server, it might be a syncdaemon issue after all :(
[19:29] <verterok> rye: looking at the client logs, I don't see syncdaemon being stuck, it's just failing to move the file
[19:29] <verterok> rye: or I'm missing something :)
[19:36] <rye> verterok, well, TRY_AGAIN is the server response, right?
[19:37] <verterok> rye: yes
[19:37] <verterok> rye: but that's for the move
[21:18] <michael__> can anyone help me with ubuntu one
[21:25] <rye> verterok, if that's client, should I poken facund0batista ?
[21:25] <verterok> rye: probably, he know more about action queue
[21:26] <rye> facundobatista, ping, what can you say about http://paste.ubuntu.com/512531/
[21:33] <facundobatista> rye, it's a nice log! why?
[21:33] <facundobatista> rye, I see a Move retried
[21:36] <rye> facundobatista, we have earlier log which shows that it has been retrying to move the file for a while
[21:54] <kash> any female
[21:54] <kash> can anyone here me?
[21:54] <kash> sorry hear
[21:55] <kash> i m new for ubuntu
[21:55] <kash> please help me
[21:55] <mattgriffin> joshuahoover, duanedesign, beuno: added a new FAQ about listening to music streaming with an app other than Ubuntu One Music.
[21:56] <beuno> mattgriffin, ta
[22:01] <joshuahoover> mattgriffin: great! thank you!
[22:01] <mattgriffin> joshuahoover, beuno: np. hope it's not too harsh but i wanted to be clear
[23:48] <Guest11154> honk
[23:55] <UOMobileSubscrib> honk


[05:57] <fabbione> lamont: great
[08:46] <nemesis> hi
[08:47] <nemesis> spricht jemand deutsch?
[08:49] <fabbione> nope
[08:49] <fabbione> #ubuntu-de
[08:50] <nemesis> is it possible to install a new kernel with apt-get under ubuntu?
[08:50] <fabbione> yes
[08:52] <nemesis> i compiled the kernel <IP_ADDRESS> but when i'm booting, he's searching for many modules, i have not in my notebook. if i install it via apt-get, will apt-get configure the kernel?
[08:52] <fabbione> ah not that way
[08:53] <fabbione> but these are #ubuntu channel questions
[08:53] <fabbione> here we discuss only kernel development
[08:53] <nemesis> ok
[08:53] <nemesis> cya
[08:53] <fabbione> cya
[01:06] <zul> after puking for much of the day yesterday i feel much better
[01:06] <fabbione> ouch
[01:06] <fabbione> so did you like SW3?
[01:06] <fabbione> i am watching a few bits and pieces of SW Revelation now
[01:08] <zul> i thought it was ok...
[01:08] <zul> i thought some of the acting sucked
[01:08] <fabbione> well sw2 sucked more for acting
[01:11] <zul> yeah...the big noooooooooo by darth vader at the end of the movie was kind of over done
[01:13] <fabbione> yeah i agree
[01:13] <infinity> s/acting/directing/
[01:14] <fabbione> infinity: no no.. i meant acting
[01:14] <infinity> Actors don't just wake up one morning saying "I'm going to scream 'nooo' for 5 minutes, and there's nothing Lucas can do about it!"
[01:14] <fabbione> anakin in sw2 is a luser
[01:14] <infinity> Yes.  Yes he is.
[01:14] <fabbione> infinity: well that's true..
[01:15] <infinity> But I still say the director is crap.      COuld be true.
[01:30] <fabbione> zzzzzz.. zack!
[01:30] <fabbione> infinity: oh no.. i was really joking..
[01:30] <fabbione> no offence
[01:30] <infinity> She wants to go back and see Star Wars again... less than a day after we just saw it.
[01:30] <fabbione> i don't know her at all :)
[01:30] <infinity> Cause she's... Y'know... A freak.
[01:30] <fabbione> infinity: download REvelation for her :)
[01:30] <fabbione> there are still no good torrents for sw3
[01:31] <chmj> hmm, I never download movies :/
[01:31] <infinity> What exactly is SW:R?
[01:31] <fabbione> infinity: it's a SW episode not done by Lucas
[01:32] <fabbione> just google for it
[01:32] <infinity> chmj : You're missing out.  It sure beats paying 28 dollars to get your feet stuck to the floor of a theatre and feel violated by Lucas.
[01:32] <fabbione> afaik it has been done only by sw funs
[01:32] <fabbione> meh
[01:32] <fabbione> fans
[01:32] <fabbione> chmj: i usually download only the one that i really really like after watching them at the ciname
[01:32] <fabbione> cinema
[01:32] <fabbione> and 99% of the time i buy the original DVD
[01:33] <fabbione> it's just to be able to see a few more times
[01:33] <chmj> I buy dvd's also
[01:35] <fabbione> SW R costed like 20K USD
[01:35] <fabbione> 10K of which for the cameras
[01:36] <infinity> Yeah, 20K that they didn't really have.  And yet, I can't pay them for it.
[01:36] <infinity> But I have to pay through the nose for rich people to make movies and get richer.
[01:36] <infinity> Isn't life fair?
[01:36] <fabbione> no it's not
[01:36] <fabbione> my wife isn't blonde...
[01:36] <fabbione> and i am not rich
[01:36] <fabbione> i don't drive a ferrari
[01:37] <infinity> Hrm.
[01:37] <infinity> Well, I have some Coke in the fridge, so life isn't all bad.
[01:38] <infinity> I think I'll go have some of said Coke, kidnap my girlfriend, and go relax somewhere less computery.
[01:38] <fabbione> good idea :)
[01:38] <Mithrandir> infinity: have fun
[01:38] <infinity> Word.
[01:38] <chmj> heh
[01:40] <zul> brb need to test something
[01:48] <zul> meh
[01:48] <zul> i think i need to play some poker bbl
[02:16] <zul> is xorg for breezy relatively safe now?
[03:12] <zul> brb
[04:47] <zul> yay...
[04:47] <zul> linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-dbg_<IP_ADDRESS>-1.2_i386.deb
[04:48] <fabbione> does it boot?
[04:48] <zul> going to test with qemu
[04:49] <fabbione> btw.. did you see that there is a arch/$arch/Kconfig.debug ?
[04:49] <fabbione> or did you just craft the config files?
[04:49] <zul> i just did the config files
[04:49] <fabbione> ok
[04:49] <zul> but the arch/$arch/Kconfig.debug is next if this doesnt work
[04:49] <fabbione> i would take a look how .debug is involved
[04:49] <fabbione> well you might need a combination...
[04:49] <zul> true
[04:52] <zul> is it me or is the wiki slow
[05:03] <fabbione> the latter probably
[05:04] <jbailey> zul: Re: xorg.
[05:04] <jbailey> zul: no.
[05:15] <zul> goody
[05:18] <fabbione> does it boot?
[05:27] <zul> havent tried it yet...still doing some stuff with qemu
[05:28] <fabbione> zul: qemu is a pain :)
[05:29] <zul> tell me about it
[05:38] <zul> thats weird modprobe tun...tun: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[06:24] <zul> blah...ran out of space
[07:18] <zul> qemu is so much fun!
[08:37] <zul> Kconfig.debug doesnt look like it has anything useful
[10:20] <zul> damn it...didnt boot...*sigh* back to the drawing board
[10:20] <zul> oh btw kdb-v4.4-2.6.12-rc5-common-1
[11:04] <dilinger> hm
[11:05] <dilinger> dilinger@jack:~ $ dmesg|grep -i hyper
[11:05] <dilinger> CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled
[11:05] <dilinger> dilinger@jack:~ $ cat /proc/cmdline
[11:05] <dilinger> root=/dev/hda1 ro ht=on quiet splash
[11:05] <dilinger> did the security update break ht altogether?
[11:05] <Mithrandir> yeah, the fix is to disable HT
[11:05] <Mithrandir> AII
[11:05] <Mithrandir> AIUI
[11:06] <dilinger> Mithrandir: the security fix announcement said it could be manually turned on w/ ht=on
[11:06] <dilinger> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/usn-131-1
[11:07] <Mithrandir> dilinger: oh, ok.  Unsure then
[11:07] <dilinger> fabbione: still around?
[11:08] <zul> someone missed a __setup or something?
[11:09] <dilinger> what's the BTS dujour these days for ubuntu?
[11:09] <dilinger> still bugzilla, or malone?
[11:10] <zul> bugzilla for kernel stuff until someone tells me different
[11:14] <zul> uh...how big is the kernel image should be 686
[11:17] <dilinger> does it take a little while for bugzilla to make the bug available to searches after submitting a bug?
[11:17] <dilinger> or did bugzilla eat my bug report :)
[11:17] <dilinger> oh, nm, i didn't pick a component
[11:18] <zul> dont see it
[11:18] <dilinger> of course, there is nothing named "component" on this page
[11:19] <zul> heh...i take it you arent a big fan
[11:20] <dilinger> of bugzilla?  why wouldn't i be a fan?  it's so easy to use (no wonder it's #1)
[11:20] <dilinger> yea, so putting linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-5-686-smp for the package doesn't work
[11:20] <dilinger> it tries to autocomplete the package if you type it in
[11:20] <dilinger> nothing for linux-kernel
[11:20] <zul> just try linux
[11:20] <dilinger> ok
[11:21] <dilinger> heh
[11:21] <dilinger> i can't actually choose linux
[11:21] <dilinger> the pulldown closes if i try to scroll down to it
[11:21] <zul> gah? i just did so for a buyg
[11:21] <dilinger> if i just type "linux", it keeps the pulldown open
[11:22] <dilinger> this is retarded
[11:22] <dilinger> zul: what browser did you use?
[11:22] <zul> firefox
[11:22] <zul> 1.0.2
[11:22] <dilinger> i'm using 0.9.3
[11:22] <zul> thats weird
[11:23] <zul> yeah now i can finally reboot this damn thing
[11:38] <Mithrandir> hm, 2.6.12 fails to load X here.


[12:01] <jussi01> catalyst thought of the day: Open-minded. It's easy to make assumptions about other people's motivations. When you decide someone is behaving maliciously, you've made an assumption about their motivation which may be difficult to disprove. Try to make your assumptions about other people's motivations as positive as possible.
[12:24] <erUSUL> maybe ... « Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.  » XXDD maybe not that positive but ...
[12:25] <jussi01> erUSUL: that one was shamelessliy stolen from freenodes catalysts page :D
[12:25] <erUSUL> mine from wikipedia; it is a tie ;)
[12:34] <jussi01> freenode beats wikipedia hands down :D
[12:34]  * jussi01 hi 5's erUSUL
[12:35] <erUSUL> :D
[12:38] <jussi01> erUSUL: how are things going? have you run into any issues with support at all?  anything thats come into your head thats just clicked that you'd like to share?
[12:57] <jussi01> erUSUL: that was a bit weird, Im looking into it
[12:57] <erUSUL> tyvm
[12:58] <jussi01> erUSUL: but best not to reply to those people who tell you its a bot, no point and it just adds trafic to the channel
[13:03] <DJones> jussi01: Looking at the topic changes to get the -irc-helpers bit in, do you still need the "Karmic is released" bit of the topic
[13:04] <jussi01> DJones: yeah, you do. should be ok now though
[13:06] <erUSUL> !gutsy
[13:06] <jussi01> oh the ubot left :(
[13:07] <jussi01> erUSUL: can do here now :D
[13:07] <erUSUL> ok
[13:08] <jussi01> and erUSUL, the bug you found is a bit of a dumb on and should be fixed soon:
[13:08] <jussi01> [15:03:44] <tsimpson> !info  bash | jussi01
[13:08] <jussi01> [15:03:44] <ubottu> jussi01:
[13:08] <jussi01> [15:03:47] <tsimpson> !info bash | jussi01
[13:08] <jussi01> [15:03:48] <ubottu> jussi01: bash (source: bash): The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 4.0-5ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 642 kB, installed size 3072 kB
[13:08] <jussi01> see the issue?
[13:08] <erUSUL> jussi01: two spaces and it chokes?
[13:09] <jussi01> yup
[13:44] <jussi01> erUSUL: bug should be fixed now :)
[13:46] <czajkowski> jussi01: so who should we poke re -locoteams adn logging btw ?
[13:47]  * jussi01 points czajkowski to his statement in -locoteams as well as the irc page on the wiki :D
[13:47] <czajkowski> ah missed that
[13:47] <jussi01> :)
[13:47] <czajkowski> my ba d
[20:25] <jussi01> o/
[20:25] <maco> hmm who else is here...
[20:33] <DJones> maco: Its quiet in here
[20:36]  * erUSUL watches the tumbleweeds pass  ...
[20:49]  * mneptok is somewhat active, but involved with work
[20:49]  * pleia2 gives mneptok a cookie
[20:57]  * Tm_T has no pc
[21:02] <mneptok> pleia2: thanks for that! woo has been going through the double-stuf Oreos so fast i may not get any!
[21:02] <mneptok> (she's stressed at work. chocolate helps.)
[21:03] <pleia2> hehe
[21:05] <maco> chocolate helps almost everything (except diets)
[21:06] <mneptok> and complexion.
[21:10] <maco> i wonder if that's more to do with the dairy-acne link and the fact that most cheap chocolate goodies are milk chocolate
[21:10] <maco> milk chocolate makes me break out. 72% cocoa non-dairy chocolate does not
[21:43]  * MenZa looks at -offtopic, tries to remember the channel he joined years ago.
[21:44] <maco> MenZa: before it turned into a mild troll-fest?
[21:45]  * erUSUL never joined -offtopic
[21:45] <MenZa> I wouldn't say that's how it turned out :)
[21:45] <MenZa> I *try* to keep it somewhat sober myself.


[00:01] <Chickengeorge> 20 inch
[00:27] <diego> someone knows about a touchscreen driver colled gunze?
[00:28] <diego> hi everybody
[00:28] <ciapsadm> ciapsadm@ciapsadm:~$ gksu
[00:28] <ciapsadm> ciapsadm@ciapsadm:~$ gnump3d-index --root /var/music
[00:28] <ciapsadm> Error opening the cache file '/var/cache/gnump3d/song.tags' - Permission denied
[00:28] <ciapsadm> ciapsadm@ciapsadm:~$
[00:28] <ciapsadm> Ce sa fac?
[00:28] <ciapsadm> ciapsadm@ciapsadm:~$ gksu gnump3d-index --root /var/music
[00:28] <ciapsadm> gksu: unrecognized option `--root'
[00:28] <ciapsadm> GKsu version 2.0.0
[00:32] <DFlame> parlez-vous anglais?
[00:35] <favro> !fr
[01:25] <hvgotcodes> hey is there power management tools in default xubuntu?
[01:25] <hvgotcodes> i didnt see any in system
[02:03] <dtolj> how to enable compiz in xubuntu?
[02:07] <favro> !compiz
[02:20] <dtolj> favro: no I installed it but dosnt show up in any menus
[02:20] <dtolj> favro: how to enable compiz?
[02:21] <favro> dtolj: alt+F2 and type   compiz --replace
[02:21] <dtolj> i was just about to guess that :)
[02:21] <dtolj> thanks
[02:21] <favro> np :)
[04:06] <shane_> any idea as to y when i click on my places icon it goes to processing it and then after a while just stops and doesnt open nothing
[04:09] <favro> have you done anything like reinstall/move your home folder or such?
[04:09] <shane_> not as far as i now
[04:11] <shane_> same as when i download things it apears on my desktop and now they dont show,but if i go to change my desktop picture when i browse desktop it lists them
[04:11] <favro> we are talking about places in the top panel?
[04:11] <shane_> yes
[04:11] <shane_> when i open it it lists files when i click on any it gives the clock icon that its processing and then just stops and doesnt open
[04:11] <favro> figured so - just waiting for virtualbox to boot my xubuntu guest...
[04:12] <favro> any mounts from samba or nfs?
[04:13] <shane_> im a relative newbie
[04:13] <favro> hehe - that's fine :) everyone starts out that way
[04:14] <shane_> i have picked up a bit but not to much
[04:16] <favro> if you right click your home folder in places what does it say?
[04:16] <favro> your home folder = your login name
[04:16] <shane_> it doesnt say anything it makes the lil icon that its working and then just stops
[04:20] <favro> ok - can you open a terminal? - type   thunar /   and hit enter
[04:21] <shane_> thunar/ gives a no such file
[04:21] <favro>  thunar / - there's a space before the /
[04:22] <shane_> ok it has given a fresh line no words
[04:23] <favro> are you using xubuntu?
[04:23] <shane_> yes xubuntu hardy
[04:24] <favro> ok then... - in terminal type   sudo apt-get install thunar
[04:25] <shane_> thunar is already the newest version
[04:25] <favro> again in terminal   which thunar
[04:27] <shane_> it just gives usr / bin / thunar
[04:27] <favro> so it should :)
[04:28] <shane_> perfect ;)
[04:28] <favro> I don't know why the file manager thunar won't start from command line - does   thunar  in terminal do anything?
[04:29] <shane_> thunar in terminal just brings a blank line
[04:30] <favro> my next suggestion would be to remove reinstall the file manager
[04:30] <favro> sudo apt-get --purge remove thunar
[04:30] <Odd-rationale> wait
[04:31] <Odd-rationale> before you do that...
[04:31] <shane_> im still here
[04:31] <Odd-rationale> can i try something?
[04:31] <favro> watch to see if anything else will be removed
[04:31] <favro> sure
[04:31] <Odd-rationale> ok. hold on...
[04:31] <favro> Odd-rationale: :)
[04:32] <Odd-rationale> shane_: try this command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.config/Thunar
[04:32] <shane_> the only time i use thunar is gksu   thunar to unlock locked files
[04:33] <Odd-rationale> shane_: tell me when you ahve run the above command...
[04:33] <shane_> it doesnt seem to do a thing fresh shane @ line
[04:34] <Odd-rationale> shane_: ok good. now do: thunar
[04:34] <shane_> it just goes blank line now
[04:34] <Odd-rationale> shane_: does thunar open anywhere?
[04:35] <shane_> no and if i use thunar file manager nothing opens either
[04:35] <favro> does mousepad open from terminal?
[04:35] <shane_> yes i get a untitled
[04:36] <Odd-rationale> shane_: when did this start happening?
[04:36] <shane_> yesterday was slow to open today is dead
[04:36] <Odd-rationale> shane_: does `gksudo thunar` work ?
[04:37] <shane_> sure does
[04:38] <shane_> oh also yesterday my trash locked up on me also
[04:39] <shane_> gave me a could not conect mesage
[04:40] <favro> dbus maybe?
[04:40] <Odd-rationale> shane_: try: rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash
[04:40] <Odd-rationale> we can try restarting dbus...
[04:40] <shane_> blashane @ line
[04:40] <shane_> sorry blank
[04:40] <Odd-rationale> sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[04:41] <shane_> wow that did something
[04:41] <Odd-rationale> shane_: what did it say? any errors?
[04:42] <shane_> lol i have no places icon now and my trash aplet is a red circle with a line through it
[04:42] <shane_> everything is ok
[04:42] <Odd-rationale> :?
[04:42] <shane_> in terminal all actions were marked as ok
[04:42] <shane_> i still have no icon
[04:43] <Odd-rationale> shane_: maybe we should restart fam as well: sudo /etc/init.d/fam restart
[04:43] <shane_> that could not be found
[04:44] <Odd-rationale> ok nvm...
[04:44] <shane_> sorry that was comand not found
[04:44] <Odd-rationale> hey. let me finish my shower first, and i'll be right back... damn, when will they make laptops you can take into the shower... :(
[04:45] <shane_> lol no prob ill be here
[04:45] <Odd-rationale> meanwhile, you guys try what you can... :P
[04:45] <favro> was this an install from the live cd?
[04:45] <shane_> yes it was
[04:46] <shane_> i have been running it for nearly 3 months
[04:46] <shane_> my daughters machine had a prob 2 days ago also it lost the wireless card and i had to restart to get it to boot the card
[04:47] <shane_> i am leaning on a update that was placed 2 days ago thats when all this began
[04:47] <favro> that makes me wonder about any updates you may have done
[04:47] <favro> :)
[04:48] <shane_> lol yes but unfortianitly i dont keep track of them i just enter password and it does them all
[04:48] <favro> try in terminal   sudo apt-get -f install
[04:49] <shane_> 0 updates upgrades nothin removed
[04:49] <favro> k
[04:50] <shane_> and if i enter the cpu speedo it lists just the programs i am using so there doesnt apear to be any faults
[04:50] <shane_> in xterm that is
[04:51] <favro> does   sudo killall -v thunar   return anything?
[04:52] <shane_> a bunch of killed thunar
[04:52] <shane_> all signal 15
[04:52] <favro> tha she blows
[04:52] <shane_> wich is my prob
[04:52] <favro> run that command again - try the up arrow
[04:54] <favro> it "should " return no process killed
[04:54] <shane_> no process killed
[04:54] <favro> now try   thunar
[04:55] <shane_> same just a blank line
[04:55] <favro> sudo killall -v thunar   again
[04:55] <favro> any killed?
[04:55] <shane_> nopers
[04:56] <favro> I'm still thinking --purge remove thunar install thunar but Odd-rationale might have a trick up his/her sleeve :)
[04:57] <shane_> yah im not sure mabey we shall just wait for him to finish his shower and see
[04:57] <favro> k :)
[04:57] <shane_> odd has helped me allot with getting setup in linux
[04:58] <favro> your in a large club there :)
[04:58] <shane_> actually this irc has been absolutely wonderfull with making the transition
[04:59] <Odd-rationale> shower finished... need to brush my teeth...
[05:00] <shane_> lol ok ill brb gonna get a tea
[05:00] <Odd-rationale> wait... this isn't twitter... :P
[05:00] <shane_> kk
[05:06] <shane_> when ever use are ready
[05:10] <favro> the dbus restart shows you don't have a working file manager imo
[05:11] <shane_> im guessing i am in need of a file manager then
[05:12] <Odd-rationale> i'm thinking you need to reboot... before we go much further...
[05:13] <shane_> k ill be right back
[05:14] <Odd-rationale> hmm konversation on xfce... :?
[05:18] <tina> hey Odd-rationale i have a blank screen on my system when i restarted it only opened terminal and no other aps
[05:18] <tina> lucky i got my daughters wireless back on yesterday
[05:19] <Odd-rationale> tina: blank screen when you login? or boot?
[05:19] <tina> will xfce4-panel work-------after login
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> tina: hmm. try to do ctrl+alt+f2 and see if you can login there
[05:21] <shane_> ok i alt f2 and did the xfce-4 and its back
[05:22] <shane_> still no icon for places and trash is still locked up
[05:23] <shane_> Odd-rationale:
[05:23] <Odd-rationale> shane_: ok. let's try something more radical: rm -rf ~/.config ~/.local
[05:24] <shane_> new shane @ line
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> then restart X: ctrl+alt+bksp
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> then log back in
[05:25] <shane_> ok did restart again
[05:25] <shane_> i had to alt f2 again
[05:25] <shane_> and also it changed my sizing on monitor
[05:26] <Odd-rationale> shane_: does thunar open now?
[05:27] <shane_> no icon and trash locked and no thunar
[05:27] <Odd-rationale> hmm...
[05:28] <shane_> gksu thunar works
[05:29] <favro> could it be groups?
[05:31] <shane_> when i type groups in terminal i get
[05:31] <shane_> shane adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin
[05:31] <shane_> not sure if thats what u wanted?
[05:32] <favro> looks ok
[05:32] <favro> and yes :)
[05:33] <shane_> ok things are wrong now i have a bunch of black boxes on desktop and i cant right click
[05:35] <favro> sounds like hardware issues
[05:35] <shane_> after 3 months
[05:35] <shane_> this system has been flawless till yesterday
[05:35] <Odd-rationale> idk what could be the issue...
[05:36] <favro> is the older kernel still available from the grub prompt?
[05:36] <favro> try booting into it if yes
[05:37] <shane_> probing devices
[05:39] <shane_> ok it gives me a grub> line
[05:39] <shane_> if i boot grub i get kernal must be loaded before booting error 8
[05:40] <favro> how many hard drives are you using?
[05:40] <shane_> one
[05:40] <shane_> its just a ultra ide 80 gig
[05:40] <favro> k one min - off to google :)
[05:43] <shane_> but if i gksu thunar it list all files
[05:45] <favro> so the older kernel won't boot? - error 8 is bad file
[05:45] <shane_> hmm
[05:45] <favro> will the kernel you were in before boot?
[05:46] <shane_> how do i find out
[05:46] <favro> hold the comps' power button in until it stops then start again...
[05:47] <shane_> ok will b back
[05:47] <favro> k
[05:51] <shane_> welcome back its all there again
[05:51] <shane_> and thunar opens now
[05:52] <shane_> i did have to do alt f2 and the start xfce-4 again but it all came up
[05:52] <Odd-rationale> hmm what did you do?
[05:53] <favro> you shouldn't have to start xfce4
[05:54] <shane_> i know i shouldnt but i have had that prob for a while and Odd-rationale all i did was complete restart power od
[05:54] <Odd-rationale> shane_: from the login screen, did you choose xfce as your sesion?
[05:55] <shane_> u know what im not sure i will restart in a few and i bet im just starting on last sesion
[05:56] <shane_> ok i restarted and set sesion to xfce it is ok now
[05:57] <shane_> and all my files are back in tact also
[05:57] <favro> shane_: well that was pure luck :)
[05:58] <shane_> yah im not sure y it did it but when i did power off it all came back
[05:58]  * favro has fingers crossed for the future
[05:59] <shane_> ty favro hopefully all stays well and ty Odd-rationale as well
[06:00] <shane_> i will let it be for now and hopefully is all ok
[06:00] <favro> np :)
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> shane_: ok glad it works :D
[06:01] <shane_> yah ty's and i wish i new what we fixed so i can do it in the future if need be
[06:02] <favro> so it turned out a boot into another kernel and reboot to the first kernel gave errors but sorted the main issue out...?
[06:02] <favro> hehe
[06:02] <shane_> mabey my restart isnt good enough i need a full power off once in a while lol not sure but ty's again im gonna sighn off and get some sleep
[06:02] <favro> night :)
[06:38] <prexium01> Hey all.
[06:38] <prexium01> Is this the room for server help?
[06:40] <Odd-rationale> !server | prexium01
[06:40] <prexium01> Ok, ty ;)
[06:40] <Odd-rationale> np
[08:01] <s73v3r> Hi. Can someone help me with some install issues I'm having?
[08:02] <s73v3r> specifically, the installer segfaulting and crashing?
[08:02] <Odd-rationale> s73v3r: you can ask your question, and if any one knows the answer, they will help :D
[08:04] <s73v3r> That's pretty much it. The installer keeps crashing or giving segfaults whenever I try to install. Sometimes I get a '/sbin/modprobe abnormal exit' error, sometimes I get 'Recursive fault fixed, but reboot is required' and sometimes it just hangs
[08:04] <s73v3r> I've burned several different cds, both the desktop, the alternate, and the netboot iso
[08:05] <Odd-rationale> s73v3r: did you check the md5sum of the iso?
[08:05] <s73v3r> they all checked out
[08:05] <Odd-rationale> s73v3r: how about the check disk integrity from the boot menu?
[08:06] <s73v3r> most of the time that checks out too, but sometimes the installer crashes while trying to run the check
[08:11] <s73v3r> I just finished burning another CD, and am running the check on it now
[08:30] <Odd-rationale> i gtg to bed. bye all!
[08:34] <favro> bye Odd-rationale  :)
[09:29] <s73v3r> what should I do for an /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit error?
[09:30] <TheSheep> s73v3r: what did you do to cause it?
[09:30] <s73v3r> put the install cd in the drive and tell it to install
[09:33] <TheSheep> ah, then the usual, make sure that the cd and your download are not corrupted, check the computer's memory, check for faulty hardware
[09:34] <blackj0k3r> salve.... sto cercando di installare xubuntu su un vecchio pc ma mi simpalla al 15% dell'installazzione....cosa può essere???
[09:34] <TheSheep> you can also searhc the forums and Internet to see if there are any trouble with Linux on your specific hardware
[09:35] <TheSheep> !es | blackj0k3r
[09:35] <TheSheep> !it | blackj0k3r
[09:35] <s73v3r> the weird thing is, this very computer was running linux just about a week and a half ago
[09:36] <s73v3r> I've replaced the memory, but that's it
[09:36] <blackj0k3r> weeee... vacchetta... ciauz!!
[09:36] <TheSheep> s73v3r: run memcheck
[10:18] <JinKazama> :)
[10:18] <JinKazama> !bg
[10:19] <JinKazama> nice :)
[10:20] <favro> if you can understand it :)
[10:21] <favro> there should be something in this topic about being patient...
[10:21] <TheSheep> DON't PANIC
[10:21] <JinKazama> yes :) I understand bulgarian :)
[10:28] <favro> no-ones having a panic attack TheSheep hehe :)
[10:30] <TheSheep> favro: that was a proposition for the "being patient" text
[10:30] <favro> ohh k :)
[11:19] <OmfgItsAShark> hey anybody on at this time of night
[13:08] <jarnos> How do you play DVD by totem?
[13:09] <favro> !dvd
[13:15] <jarnos> favro: I miss xine as default totem backend (and it can be used by e.g. gxine as well).
[13:16] <favro> and there's xine-ui now too
[13:20] <jarnos> favro: It is launched by command "xine". I find it more difficult to use. How do you play DVD by it, for instance?
[13:22] <favro> jarnos: I never use dvds - apart from !dvd I know you need to install libdvdcss2
[13:23] <favro> jarnos: that is for drm dvds afaik
[13:24] <jarnos> favro: Yes, since I can play some DVDs without it.
[13:25] <favro> jarnos: then you need to enable the medibuntu repository and d/load libdvdcss2
[13:25] <favro> !medibuntu
[13:35] <jarnos> favro: but I don't see any menu item for dvd in totem or xine. But gxine has. (I don't use autoplay/automount in totem preferences)
[13:36] <favro> jarnos: I'll boot into xubuntu for a look
[13:37] <jarnos> favro: oh there is sometimes an item in totem for the drive.
[13:38] <favro> I thought I saw something about dvd menu in totem - but it has been a while
[13:41] <favro> in totems' top menu - go - has dvd menu
[13:41] <favro> jarnos: ^^
[13:43] <filipegatti> hello there! i'm using xubuntu on my laptop and i need to set up a external display, how can I do that?
[13:45] <favro> !xinerama
[13:46] <filipegatti> thank you for the infor!
[13:47] <favro> filipegatti: does the lappy have a nvidia card for graphics? 'cause there's
[13:48] <favro> !twinview
[13:48] <filipegatti> it's intel integrated
[13:48] <filipegatti> :(
[13:54] <filipegatti> i'll try rebooting to see if work... thank you :)
[14:07] <filipegatti> hello
[14:08] <filipegatti> i rebooted my laptop
[14:08] <filipegatti> now my 19` monitor is
[14:08] <filipegatti> showing the desktop ?D
[14:08] <filipegatti> in a very ugly way
[14:08] <filipegatti> i have configured it at first instance, but now its showing something like 640z400
[14:10] <favro> there is a virtual line you need in the screen section - the howto should mention it
[14:14] <filipegatti> phew
[14:14] <filipegatti> now it`s working ok, showing 1440x900 resolution
[14:14] <favro> well done :)
[14:14] <Myrtti> what was the command to regenerate the menus again?
[14:15] <filipegatti> but my laptop is showing the desktop too, and if i try to close it, the display turns off, and also my external.
[14:15] <favro> Myrtti: sudo update-menus?
[14:16] <Myrtti> bwah. Still in Finnish
[14:16] <Myrtti> oh well.
[14:16] <filipegatti> favro? any idea
[14:17] <filipegatti> damn keyboard
[14:17] <jarnos> filipegatti: I recommend xrandr over xinerama, if your graphics driver supports it.
[14:17] <filipegatti> how can i know if it supports? :P
[14:18] <jarnos> filipegatti: run xrandr
[14:19] <filipegatti> jarnos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/46866/
[14:20] <jarnos> filipegatti: I think it is supported.
[14:21] <jarnos> filipegatti: actually, I have intel integrated, too.
[14:21] <favro> filipegatti: you need your xorg.conf to default to the external then - comment the lines for he onboard display
[14:21] <filipegatti> hmm
[14:22] <filipegatti> actually, now all my computer is very strange, the audio stopped working and the video is showing light it brightness is at 99%
[14:22] <filipegatti> god, let me solve the display first :(
[14:22] <filipegatti> ok, I'll try going to xorg.conf first
[14:24] <livingdaylight1> i'm installing xubuntu ppc.... with mini iso. is system clock set to UTC?
[14:24] <favro> I set mine to local but utc is fine
[14:25] <livingdaylight1> thx
[14:25] <favro> np
[14:25] <filipegatti> ok, now I guess I need to reboot again.
[14:25] <favro> filipegatti: logout will do
[14:26] <filipegatti> it will? i tried last time and nothing happened, i'll logout again
[14:34] <filipegatti> well, it didnt work
[14:34] <filipegatti> i found a way to make it, but it's too lame
[14:35] <filipegatti> when it's booting, if i close my note, the external still displays and then it's ok
[14:35] <filipegatti> but I really want things working when they have to be
[14:35] <filipegatti> the way*
[14:38] <jarnos> filipegatti: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and log out and back.
[14:38] <favro> I haven't tryed using two monitors - maybe someone else can chime in with some support...
[14:39] <filipegatti> favro, thanks anyway, you helped a lot :)
[14:39] <filipegatti> jarnos, lets try!
[14:39] <jarnos> filipegatti: what is yours Xubuntu version?
[14:40] <filipegatti> its a very fresh install of 8.04
[14:40] <jarnos> filipegatti: good.
[14:40] <filipegatti> logging out ;)
[14:41] <jarnos> What's wrong with ubuntuforums.org?
[14:41] <favro> it's been down for a while
[14:42] <filipegatti> jarnos, did it, but nothing changed after all
[14:42] <jarnos> filipegatti: can you tell again what is wrong? no sound..
[14:43] <filipegatti> sound is nothing, i can fix it later
[14:43] <filipegatti> my problem is with external display
[14:44] <filipegatti> i'm using xubuntu 8.04 on my laptop, and i want to configure my 19" display on it.
[14:44] <filipegatti> after some help, my external display is already showing the desktop and on the right resolution
[14:45] <filipegatti> but my laptop is showing the desktop too (i wanted it to be turned off and only be turned on when i open it)
[14:45] <filipegatti> and if i try to close it, all the displays turn off
[14:46] <filipegatti> that's my problem
[14:47] <jarnos> filipegatti: try grandr
[14:48] <filipegatti> installing...
[14:49] <filipegatti> perfect.
[14:49] <filipegatti> thank you jarnos
[14:49] <filipegatti> ah
[14:50] <filipegatti> not so perfect, i can't close the notebook yet, even if its display is off
[14:53] <jarnos> filipegatti: I don't know about that, but one thing you may have to set is virtual line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/146859
[14:54] <jarnos> filipegatti: my laptoi is configured to suspend, if I close the lid.
[14:55] <filipegatti> xubuntu lacks of laptop gui configuration
[14:56] <jarnos> filipegatti: what do you mean?
[14:56] <filipegatti> when i tried linux mint, it offered a lot of options for my notebook in a easy and graphically way, by default
[14:57] <filipegatti> it was only a point, not a problem at all
[14:58] <filipegatti> i know that what i want to do is possible with this graphic card and display because i did it before, i only need to search more on how to do it with xubuntu :)
[15:02] <jarnos> filipegatti: look for settigns manager > screensaver >  power management. There you can configure what happens when you close the lid.
[15:05] <jarnos> filipegatti: I agree that xrandr is not properly presented in 8.04.
[15:07] <filipegatti> haha, i searched a lot for this power management option, i would never guess it was on screensaver{?} section
[15:07] <filipegatti> no the lid problem is fixed
[15:07] <filipegatti> well, i guess now i can use it properly at least
[15:08] <filipegatti> thanks jarnos :)
[15:08] <filipegatti> now i'll fix the other stuff
[15:09] <jarnos> filipegatti: I am not sure, if your xrandr configuration survives a logout.
[15:11] <filipegatti> hmm, i think i'll never logout in my life then
[15:11] <jarnos> filipegatti: or you setup a startup script that will do the configuration each time.
[15:12] <filipegatti> thats an option
[15:13] <jarnos> filipegatti: but for it you have to use xrandr from command line.
[15:15] <filipegatti> i'm finishin a download and then I'll try one logout
[15:15] <filipegatti> and then one reboot to be sure
[15:22] <livingdaylight1> guys, i'm on a xubuntu net install; but it appears stuck
[15:23] <livingdaylight1> i got as far as being asked if i wanted stuff installed and all i selected was xubuntu desktop and its been hanging at 6% ever since
[15:23] <livingdaylight1> is it normal?
[15:26] <jarnos> livingdaylight1: Xubuntu install is slow.
[15:26] <jarnos> livingdaylight1: too slow.
[15:27] <livingdaylight1> jarnos: yikes
[15:28] <jarnos> livingdaylight1: how fast computer and how long it has been in 6%
[15:29] <livingdaylight1> jarnos: iBook 640 ram 500MHz and its been hanging at 6% for about 1/2 hr
[15:29] <livingdaylight1> jarnos: its jjust started moving again :p
[15:30] <jarnos> livingdaylight1: It was just teasing you.
[15:30] <livingdaylight1> jarnos: hehe
[15:31] <livingdaylight1> jarnos: that really tested my faith
[15:32] <livingdaylight1> by the way... is there not a 8.04 ppc release? i've got 7.10 here and was told that if i wanted a recent release i should go for debianppc (etch/lenny)
[15:32] <jarnos> livingdaylight1: I hope the iBook is not running by battery power.
[15:33] <livingdaylight1> jarnos: of course not ;
[15:33] <livingdaylight1> ;)
[15:42] <jarnos> Can you use gnome-randr-applet in Xubuntu?
[15:43] <TheSheep> if your card supports randr extensions
[15:43] <jarnos> TheSheep: extensions?
[15:44] <jarnos> TheSheep: I can use xrandr.
[15:44] <TheSheep> not all card drivers support randr
[15:44] <TheSheep> ah, ok
[15:44] <TheSheep> then it should work
[15:45] <jarnos> TheSheep: How do you add it to your xfce panel?
[15:45] <TheSheep> you need to have xfapplet installed
[15:46] <TheSheep> then you add xfapplet to your panel, and select any gnome applet you need
[16:06] <jarnos> TheSheep: thanks, the applet is not usable for dual-screen yet.
[16:23] <livingdaylight1> crap.... did a net install of xubuntu ppc 2hrs later, after its 'done' it asks to reboot but seems to hang on bootup
[16:26] <TheSheep> is ppc version even still supported?
[16:26] <livingdaylight1> i end up with a black screen
[16:26] <livingdaylight1> (initramfs) and a flashing cursor
[16:26] <livingdaylight1> TheSheep: i dunno. its the link i was given
[16:27] <livingdaylight1> it was a mini.iso of xubuntu 7.10
[16:27] <TheSheep> livingdaylight1: does the ppc version use grub or something?
[16:27] <livingdaylight1> something else i dunno what.
[16:27] <TheSheep> livingdaylight1: if so, try pressing esc on boot, pressing 'e' at the first entry and trying some of the boot options
[16:28] <TheSheep> !boot
[16:28] <livingdaylight1> TheSheep: ?
[16:29] <livingdaylight1> i installed the xubuntu and xubuntu splash screen comes up on reboot but then hangs
[16:30] <TheSheep> livingdaylight1: to get to boot options, you have to press esc before the splash screen appears
[16:30] <TheSheep> livingdaylight1: there is a lso a recovery mode there, which might work -- it's always some more information
[16:31] <TheSheep> livingdaylight1: "it hangs" is not really enough to tell anything
[17:27] <njsg> Is this expected or is it a misconfiguration?: http://shipit.xubuntu.com
[17:31] <cageman> yo can anyone recommend me a good alternative to the default 'movie player'? i need a small and simple player as media player classic is for windows
[17:35] <dtolj> how to enable xfwm transparency?
[17:38] <David-A> cageman: "movie player" is actually called "totem". of the ones I know (vlc, xine, mplayer,totem) I think totem is "simple", thou not the most "small".
[18:30] <jarnos> cageman: gxine
[18:33] <jarnos> cageman: gxine is best for DVD playback. VLC has nice hierarchical playlist and can play some formats by different speeds.
[18:34] <GourdCaptain> I have a HP Deskjet 5150 being shared from a Windows Vista machine on my network. How do I connect to it? (It's password protected.)
[19:12] <cageman> jarnos, hmm, i don't know why, but my totem is running ok video-files that use matroska, now gxine, mplayer, smplayer, they all are running in a poor way
[19:12] <cageman> matroska is files with .mkv extension
[19:19] <favro>  !cups > GourdCaptain
[20:11] <livingdaylight1> guys; in xubuntu do you do sudo gedit to write and edit config files?
[20:11] <Myrtti> gksudo mousepad
[20:14] <livingdaylight1> gksudo mousepad <path.of.config.file> ?
[20:16] <Myrtti> yup
[20:33] <livingdaylight1> when i double click on a music file shouldn't Totem just come up?
[20:33] <livingdaylight1> it spins a little as if something is happening and then just stops
[20:34] <livingdaylight1> that means i have to right-click and then 'open with' in order to get app up to play the file
[20:53] <Ben_cs> hello
[20:55] <Ben_cs> In windows movies not in best quality are shown lright, while in xubuntu they're very pixelated. Seems windows is able to smudge the pixels into a watchable (even good quality) videos. I have an intel 950 card. Any way to make xubuntu do the same trick?
[21:12] <bytor4232> Is there a version of VNC I can install and I can bring up my desktop remotely?
[21:12] <bytor4232> never mind
[21:36] <GourdCaptain> Err, does anyone know how to network print TO a vista machine. Printer is hooked up to the vista machine, and requires a username and password. Someone /msg'd me how to print to a linux box FROM windows.
[21:39]  * GourdCaptain is pretty glad UMDGen runs on Wine.
[22:07] <jv_> hi,
[22:07] <jv_> I have a problem that I never seen b4 in ubuntu xfce4
[22:07] <jv_> after a freeze  I have three commands that run every login
[22:08] <jv_> autostart applications is not the problem
[22:09] <jv_> nothing related is on /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc
[22:13] <TheSheep> jv_: the yare saved in your session
[22:13] <TheSheep> jv_: either close them and save session on logout, or just delete contents of ~/.cache/sessions/
[22:17] <jv_> TheSheep: tx..will try that..
[22:24] <jv_> TheSheep: tx, worked ..