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[23:30] <Jordan_U> ekp, You will need to install the package "build-essential" and use apt-get build-dep, do you already know how to recompile a debian source package?
[23:30] <chook__> ooh sorry i'm in di english room
[23:30] <K3nt> how do i enable stuff like the cube effect etc..
[23:30] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: ah. i thought X always required a config  <learns something every day>
[23:31] <smoov> unixboard
[23:31] <Jordan_U> matthew_, Just run the command after the "&&" then
[23:31] <swedestralian> k3nt.   go to system>preferences>appearance
[23:31] <riotkittie> K3nt: on gutsy? install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:31] <Jimdb> Congratulations folks.  This 7.10 is an exceptional product.  I hope everyone will take the time to spread the word.  Tell one new person a day about ubuntu.  In no time you'll be surprised at what you have accomplished.  Again, congratulations on such a fantastic product.
[23:31] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, It used to, but it becomes less and less dependent on it every release :)
[23:31] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, Soon it will only be required if you want to override a default :)
[23:32] <ekp> Jordan_U: frontends or backends for Sane?
[23:32] <orb2> Can anyone help me set up dual montiors please?  Only one will show up in the Screens and Graphics menu :(
[23:32] <codecaine> anybody know why ubuntu gutsy connection is slow on the internet is there anything I can configure?
[23:32] <Rob125> Jordan_U: I dunno if I'd call it less dependent. Perhaps more fool-proof.
[23:32] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> whenever i try to start desktop effects, i get a toatly un-descriptive "could not start desktop effects"
[23:32] <Dumptruck> src: did you get my message?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> ekp, Backends
[23:32] <src> Dumptruck, no
[23:32] <Cable86> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[23:32] <Squid_> does anyone have ever used a mix CD audio and data on ubuntu I can not see the tracks sound juicer dos not play it either see the tracks
[23:32] <riotkittie> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: ok. let's talk. are you ongutsy?
[23:32] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> radeon X700
[23:32] <riotkittie> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: are you using an ati?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> Rob125, If it doesn't even need the file to exist, isn't that less dependent on it ? :)
[23:32] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> im on gusty
[23:32] <riotkittie> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: k. you're blacklisted. we can over ride that, if you'd like.
[23:32] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> using flgrx driver
[23:33] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> blacklisted?
[23:33] <js_> is there an issue with compiz and the window manager? i enabled the easy effects and my window manager dissappeared
[23:33] <riotkittie> oh. flgrx i cannot help with.
[23:33] <Rob125> Jordan_U: Well, it does need the file to exist. X flips out if it doesn't have it -- now it'll just write one if it can't find it.
[23:33] <Cable86> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: desktop effects won't work with the fglrx driver
[23:33] <Dumptruck> src: oh I sent the menu.ls file
[23:33] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> danget
[23:33] <lavender_dream> Easy question :) What is the best way to install software in Ubuntu so that it picks up whenever there are updates to both supported and nonsupported applications? is it by the synaptic manager or apt-get or aptitude?
[23:33] <Dumptruck> and it is to big to paste here
[23:33] <Jordan_U> HOLOGRAPHICpizza, Install XGL ( sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl ) if you want compiz with fglrx
[23:33] <src> Dumptruck, put it in the paste bin.. see channel topic
[23:33] <Rob125> lavender_dream: all three will work perfectly :)
[23:33] <K3nt> riotkittie: ok, now what
[23:33] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> thanks
[23:33] <Cable86> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: ATI should be releasing a new version of fglrx that does work with it in the next month or two though
[23:33] <Navid> Hi, I have an issue I couldnt resolve myself. I installed ubuntu on my xp and it was fine, i had to format xp and after installing xp again the grub boot menu was gone it would directly go to xp
[23:33] <src> and send us the link
[23:33] <lavender_dream> Rob125: You lie!
[23:34] <riotkittie> K3nt: wait. what are you what'ing me about?
[23:34] <Navid> I tried all of the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and it didnt work
[23:34] <Navid> How can i recover ubuntu?
[23:34] <joanki> i know this isn't the right room to ask this, but maybe someone will be nice and answer - i have a dell driver cd for vista, but i changed my op sys to xp... the cd doesn't say vista, can i use it to install the drivers in my xp operatins system?
[23:34] <Flannel> lavender_dream: They all deal with the same database, so they all work interchangably
[23:34] <riotkittie> lavender_dream: synaptic is merely a graphical front end for apt.
[23:34] <Rob125> lavender_dream: I do? I've not had any problem with them all working. Are you sure?
[23:34] <Dumptruck> !pastebin
[23:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:34] <orb2> Can anyone help me set up dual montiors please?  Only one will show up in the Screens and Graphics menu :(
[23:34] <Jordan_U> HOLOGRAPHICpizza, Np, XGL might introduce some other problems though, it's not my favorite piece of software, which is why it is not installed by default
[23:34] <riotkittie> well not exactly. but eh. fever. laziness. woo.
[23:34] <Jimdb> anyone know if there is support for the creative x-fi cards yet?
[23:34] <Cable86> joanki: maybe you can find the drivers for xp on the dell website?
[23:34] <joanki> yes but there are SO many
[23:34] <joanki> thanks i take that as a no
[23:35] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> well, ill try xgl first
[23:35] <K3nt> riotkittie: i installed that compiz-settings-manager
[23:35] <garu> hi everyone
[23:35] <K3nt> riotkittie: now what
[23:35] <riotkittie> K3nt: enable cube there. turn desktop wall off. up the # of desktops to 4 under the general settings tab, and you should have a cube
[23:35] <garu> HOLOGRAPHICpizza xgl?compiz fusion????????????//
[23:35] <lavender_dream> Rob125: I kid, seriously though... like my Firefox has a grey non-selectable list in the menu where I can check for upgrades... I know Firefox is at <IP_ADDRESS> yet Ubuntu uses <IP_ADDRESS>, is it because of the repositories?
[23:35] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> yes...
[23:36] <unstable> I'm in Gutsy livecd, How can I do loop back fs encryption?
[23:36] <unstable> with my install
[23:36] <Jordan_U> K3nt, run ccsm, or find it in the menus
[23:36] <garu> HOLOGRAPHICpizza what's the prob?
[23:36] <lithium> anyone know if there is a sure-fire way to check if a graphics card is dead, or just needs a bios flashed?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> unstable, You need to use the alternate CD for that
[23:36] <kitche> lavender_dream: I believe ubuntu disabled that feature since ubuntu uses a patched version of firefox their own version really
[23:36] <Cable86> Rob125: firefox <IP_ADDRESS> fixed a bug with quicktime, which Linux does not have...thus, updating it to <IP_ADDRESS> in linux would be pointless
[23:36] <swedestralian> i can not get my headphone jack to work,   can anybody help me?
[23:36] <Flannel> lavender_dream: Its because <IP_ADDRESS> is in the repositories.  Thats the version in ubuntu.  It'll get updated in a few days, if it hasnt been already.
[23:36] <warbler> Navid: you can reinstall grub with a live cd if the XP partition is the same size as before
[23:36] <psyjoniz> Deformation: comes up and no crazy fan, sorry
[23:36] <speaker219> !mirrors
[23:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[23:36] <Ant1jr> Help! Gutsy gives me a black screen apon boot!
[23:36] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> i just found out compiz dosent work with flgrx
[23:36] <unstable> Jordan_U: dammit
[23:36] <unstable> heh
[23:36] <Rob125> oh. lavender_dream: what Cable86 said.
[23:36] <speaker219> !torrents
[23:36] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[23:36] <Jimdb> lavender_dream: you need to install the .tar.gz file from the firefox site to get and update to firefox or you need to wait till <IP_ADDRESS> is available through the repositories.
[23:37] <noor> some one plox i cant seem to get my xorg.conf to open
[23:37] <matthew_> jordan_U; it worked, now how do i wipe it?
[23:37] <kbrosnan> lavender_dream: because firefox 2.0
[23:37] <lavender_dream> I love you guys, thank you!
[23:37] <Jordan_U> matthew_, Unmount it and use gparted
[23:37] <kbrosnan> lavender_dream: because firefox <IP_ADDRESS> was a windows fix
[23:37] <Navid> warbler, yes i believe its The same space and I did use The live CD and did all The mounting and all
[23:37] <Navid> i did The setup (hd2, 0)
[23:37] <Rob125> noor: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[23:37] <Navid> it did the setup, but it had an error somewhere
[23:37] <mastercane> hi @all
[23:37] <Jimdb> it is now at <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:37] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Rob125
[23:37] <ubotu> Rob125: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using « sudo <GUI-application> » - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[23:38] <silliness> ls
[23:38] <noor> rob125: may the gods be on your side..
[23:38] <Rob125> Hum. Learn something new every day.
[23:38] <Squid_> does anyone have ever used a mix CD audio and data on ubuntu I can not see the tracks sound juicer dos not play it either see the tracks
[23:38] <kr00lplatinum> Anyone know why i can't get anything from Add/Remove?
[23:38] <mastercane> already posted my question in #ubuntu-server - noone answered soo I hope to get some feedback here:
[23:38] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> what is the diffrence between "gksudo" and "gksu"?
[23:38] <mastercane> could anybody explain me why important packages like spamassassin or clamav which are needed for most mail- or groupware-setups are located in "universe", not in "main"?
[23:38] <sam000> how long does update take?
[23:38] <mastercane> it really sucks that there are security-bugs in these packages which don't get fixed by ubuntu core team
[23:38] <Rob125> noor: belay that. gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:38] <Jordan_U> HOLOGRAPHICpizza, On Ubuntu, nothing :)
[23:38] <warbler> Navid: from the live cd you open a terminal and type "sudo grub" - then "find grub stage one"
[23:38] <Dumptruck> src: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41235/
[23:38] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> lol
[23:38] <Dumptruck> hope that helps
[23:39] <PovAddict> any idea how to get an SD card reader working?
 i'm having the same problem too, i think the server is broken due to extreme heavy traffic?
[23:39] <cesar_> i cant seem to upgrade to gutsy, i get subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Aborted), core dumped
[23:39] <mikebot> How can I upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 using the live cd?
[23:39] <noor> rob125: it worked thx
[23:39] <libervisco> This is shameful :(
[23:39] <kr00lplatinum> lavender_dream: that sounds right
[23:39] <cesar_> about libpam0g
[23:39] <src> Dumptruck, windows is installed on the second hard disk?
[23:39] <Flannel> mikebot: by installing.  To upgrade, you need the alternate CD (or just do it from the internet)
[23:39] <PovAddict> mikebot: I dont think you can
[23:39] <Cable86> mikebot: you cannot upgrade to 7.10 using the livecd, you must use the alternate cd of do an internet upgrade
[23:39] <Dumptruck> yes
[23:39] <cesar_> libpam0g could not install, what should i do?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> HOLOGRAPHICpizza, If you use "gksu --su-mode" then you can run GUI apps as any other user , it uses su as a back end
[23:39] <kitche> mastercane: read up on what each repo is used for and you will see why
[23:39] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> nice
[23:39] <libervisco> Gutsy livecd wont use my LCD properly no matter which resolution I set manually or even in safe mode!
[23:39] <orb2> Can anyone help me set up dual montiors please?  Only one will show up in the Screens and Graphics menu :(
[23:39] <Ryuho> can anyone help me with vnc on xfce?
[23:39] <Rob125> noor: before you save anything, you should 'sudo cp ./xorg.conf ./xorg.conf.back
[23:40] <sam000> how long does update take?
[23:40] <mikebot> How do I upgrade using the alternate cd?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> libervisco, In what way "properly" ?
[23:40] <Navid> warbler: here is what I did, su -, sudo grub find /boot/grub/stage1/, root (hd2,0), setup (hd2,0), quit
[23:40] <cesar_> someone please help, i could not install 'libpam0g', is that important?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> !gutsy | mikebot
[23:40] <ubotu> mikebot: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[23:40] <Joe_CoT> anyone familiar with gutsy encryption? I want to set up my partitions such that /home/, /var/, /tmp/, and swap are encrypted, but everything else isn't.
[23:40] <PovAddict> sam000: depends how you do it
[23:40] <Flannel> Jordan_U: uses sudo, not su
[23:40] <K3nt> Jordan_U: ok in ccsm, what do i change
[23:40] <src> Dumptruck, how do you boot directly from the drive exactly?
[23:40] <Cable86> mikebot: while you're running 7.04, insert the alternate cd and it should pop up a window that will help you :-)
[23:40] <solo> should I use aptitude or apt-get?
[23:40] <solo> with Gutsy
[23:40] <sam000> i have 7.04
[23:41] <cesar_> theres way too many people here, nevermind
[23:41] <libervisco> Jordan_U, in way of showing anything on my screen instead of throwing it into stand by
[23:41] <K3nt> ?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Flannel, No, "gksudo --su-mode" definitely uses su :)
[23:41] <mikebot> Cable86: Do I have to download anythign from the internet if I do it from the alternate cd?
[23:41] <warbler> navid: that should get grub back after reinstalling XP
[23:41] <mordok> ?
[23:41] <warbler> *Navid
[23:41] <Dumptruck> I unplug the other drives or change the boot priority
[23:41] <garu> solo use apt-get
[23:41] <mikebot> I've been downloading upgrades fromt he update manager for like 28 hours, so I just want to stop it and use this alternate cd
[23:41] <cesar_> all my packages are failing: login and libpam
[23:41] <Navid> It should but somehow my xp was loaded again.
[23:41] <Flannel> mikebot: you put the cd in the drive, and run the command given on the upgrade page (something like gksu /cdrom/cdupgrade)
[23:41] <orb2> Can anyone help me set up dual montiors please?  Only one will show up in the Screens and Graphics menu :(
[23:41] <cesar_> how am i gonna use ubuntu with a failed 'login' package?
[23:41] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> i like aptitude better
[23:41] <Navid> It didnt even show the grub menu.
[23:41] <garu> mikebot 28 hours?
[23:41] <Cable86> mikebot: i believe it depends on what packages you have installed....obviously they can't fit every single package available onto a single cd, so depending on what you have installed it may have to download some additional packages
[23:41] <Flannel> Jordan_U: gksudo calls su with that flag?
[23:41] <mikebot> Flannel: Thanks.
[23:41] <mikebot> garu: yes.
[23:41] <warbler> Navid: should be setup (hd0)
[23:42] <Dumptruck> is that bad?
[23:42] <tass> what's the easiest way of data recovery on a ext3?
[23:42] <numus> i am having a HUGE problem with a PNY VERTO FX5500 video card
[23:42] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Yes, same with gksu ( which in Ubuntu uses sudo by default )
[23:42] <garu> mikebot isnt that way too long?by that time, u'd be done downloading and installing the livecd or even the livedvd!or both :o
[23:42] <numus> it is basicly an overclocked nvidia
[23:42] <Navid> k
[23:42] <Navid> warbler, thank you. I'll try that, I gotta restart.
[23:42] <tass> i killed a whole partition...
[23:42] <scguy318> tass: testdisk?
[23:42] <warbler> k
[23:42] <mikebot> garu: Right, that's why I'm stopping..heh.
[23:42] <cesar_> help, login package failed
[23:42] <Flannel> Jordan_U: gksu is symlinked to gksudo, so there's no difference there.  (I'd check the man page myself, but I dont have gksu installed, so...)
[23:42] <mikebot> OK, well, thanks for the help
[23:42] <speaker219> Can anyone here tell me if Gusty is worth trying?
[23:42] <garu> mikebot lol
[23:43] <mikebot> I've going to try it, so hopefully brb.
[23:43] <OiPenguin> roodie: If you can, I'd appreciate your opinion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=577469 Inspiron 1520 appears to be among my best option out those available in Norway. The price is about $1150 here.
[23:43] <blahblahx> how can i remaster ubuntu gutsy?
[23:43] <Cable86> speaker219: Gutsy is awesome
[23:43] <orb2> Does anyone know how to enable the cube/other compiz effects in Gutsy?
[23:43] <Flannel> blahblahx: define remaster
[23:43] <src> Dumptruck, look at the pastebin, try that
[23:43] <cesar_> help, login package failed!
[23:43] <speaker219> is it possible to install gusty from a USB drive?
[23:43] <garu> speaker219 look at the number of people here, and think about how this channel was like 4 days ago :o
[23:43] <blahblahx> ok so i installed ubuntu and customized it to my needs
[23:43] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Oh, on other distributions they use different back ends ( probably just done by passing different switches to gksu )
[23:43] <blahblahx> how do i make it into a bootable, instalable livecd?
[23:43] <cesar_> now "base-files" is failing
[23:43] <Rob125> Speaker219: sure is! Christer Edwards just did a tutorial on that a week ago.
[23:43] <cesar_> helppppp
[23:43] <Flannel> blahblahx: Just remove/add whatever packages you want
[23:43] <blahblahx> then...
[23:43] <tommy__> Hello, i have a problem with ubuntu 7.10: cannot allocate resource region 9 of bridge 0000:00:1c:1. Pls help me!!
[23:43] <speaker219> Rob125: link to that tutorial please?
[23:44] <cesar_> could not install bash???? what the hell?
[23:44] <cesar_> i'm screwed
[23:44] <blahblahx> how do i make it a bootable/installable livecd?
[23:44] <garu> speaker219 Gutsy should be comulsory to install by law!lol
[23:44] <cesar_> thanks a lot, ubuntu
[23:44] <Flannel> blahblahx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[23:44] <livingdaylight> Can i install Gutsy Gibbon if my pc doens't support 3D? I hear it comes with Compiz by default and my pc doesn't support it
[23:44] <K3nt> what settings enable the cube effect?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> cesar_, Where are you getting that error ?
[23:44] <tck0> why isnt my root password working for accessing the restricted drivers area ?
[23:44] <cesar_> in the upgrade manager jordan_U
[23:44] <tck0> i changed the pass with sudo passwd . but it doesnt accept it
[23:44] <seamus7_> froyd: sorry I had to go ... did someone help you with wpa2?
[23:44] <Dumptruck> sorry I am new to the pastebin thing - how do I check your response?
[23:44] <blahblahx> is there an easier way to do this?
[23:44] <cesar_> now it says "could not install passwd" !!!!
[23:44] <Jordan_U> livingdaylight, Yes, it degrades gracefully
[23:44] <speaker219> can i have a link to that gusty USB drive install tutorial?
[23:44] <src> Dumptruck, same url
[23:44] <Stormx2> livingdaylight: Yeah, it'll work fine. Compiz just won't be enabled.
[23:44] <Flannel> tck0: sudo always asks for your uesr password (unless you've set it to ask for a root password)
[23:44] <cesar_> a lot of things are failing
[23:45] <tck0> i know
[23:45] <ctothej> for the terminal, where can I find what each color means (for file, folders, links, etc)?
[23:45] <Flannel> tck0: but, you don't need a root password at all.  Why'd you set one?
[23:45] <livingdaylight> Jordan_U, so pop in live cd and it'll realize my pc is not up to it and adapt? cool
[23:45] <databuddy> Flannel i found a good livecd tut
[23:45] <Dumptruck> add the 3 pluses?
[23:45] <cesar_> is the upgrade manager working? should i just do a clean install?
[23:45] <livingdaylight> Stormx2, sanx
[23:45] <orb2> How do I enable Compiz in gutsy?
[23:45] <tck0> well whats the default password then ?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> tck0, On Ubuntu gksu uses sudo by default
[23:45] <databuddy> lemme find it real fast ;)
[23:45] <warbler> Ryuho: I vnc into server running xfce - whats up?
[23:45] <OiPenguin> riotkittie: If you can, I'd appreciate your opinion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=577469 Inspiron 1520 appears to be among my best option out those available in Norway. The price is about $1150 here.
[23:45] <Flannel> tck0: There is no default root password.  The root account is locked
[23:45] <Jordan_U> tck0, You can change that with gksu-settings
[23:45] <Stormx2> !sudo | tck0
[23:45] <ubotu> tck0: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[23:45] <Dumptruck> and how do I open gedit as root?
[23:45] <corpsicle> ok, i want to kill ubunutu right now
[23:45] <Ryuho> warbler did you have to do anything special to set it up?
[23:45] <Stormx2> !sudo | Dumptruck
[23:45] <seamus7_> orb2: right click on the desktop and choose Appearnace then go to the Desktop Effects tab
[23:45] <Jordan_U> Dumptruck, gksudo gedit
[23:45] <ubotu> Dumptruck: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[23:45] <frank_> numus: what is the problem. I have a nvidia fx 5500
[23:45] <src> Dumptruck, no add the map (hd0) (hd1) etc part
[23:45] <Stormx2> xD
[23:45] <blahblahx> wait that doesn't worrk because i want to turn my system into a livecd
[23:45] <cesar_> everything is failing, i'm switching back to windows
[23:46] <ctothej> Also, when I use SSH and list a directory, what does the star '*' next to an executable file mean?
[23:46] <warbler> Ryuho: go to #xubuntu
[23:46] <Ryuho> i am
[23:46] <tommy__> Hello, i have a problem with ubuntu 7.10: cannot allocate resource region 9 of bridge 0000:00:1c:1. Pls help me!!
[23:46] <orb2> seamus7_: when i right click on teh desktop there's no appearance option
[23:46] <Ryuho> they aren't responding
[23:46] <garu> what is the best app to burn Iso's in ubuntu?k3b is taking forever just to erase a cd-rw!
[23:46] <GRocket> Looks like Windows has no worries---yet!
[23:46] <blahblahx> Flannel: i already customized the system, so that guide won't work
[23:46] <seamus7_> orb2: sorry I meant desktop background
[23:46] <t|om> Hi, I get this error from Xorg.log :"(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//wizardpen_drv.so" Where do I fix the double slash "//" ?
[23:46] <numus> frank_ i can't force it to use the nvidia drivers.. it keeps using the vesa drivers
[23:46] <cesar_> gutsy is the worst upgrade ever, when i upgraded to feisty i didnt get a single error
[23:46] <speaker219> is it true that gusty comes w/ compiz fusion
[23:46] <LeChacal> hey i was reading an old forums post and this guy talked of something called " xkillThat" that you could run and it would give you the ability to kill process just by clicking on the program. I tried it and it said couldn't find like it isnt really. Anyone heard of this or know what he is talking about?
[23:46] <cesar_> now EVERYTHING is breaking
[23:46] <Stormx2> garu: I'd say k3b is the best. You might need to turn dma on...
[23:46] <element> im not getting erryors with guts
[23:46] <Stormx2> speaker219: Yes.
[23:46] <orb2> seamus7_: okay the only options though are none normal and extra... no specific options like the cube, etc
[23:46] <element> im not gettting errors
[23:47] <corpsicle> it installs and asks me if i want to use the ati driver, and so i do, and then it runs 1900x1200 ( my monitor does 1680x1050 ) and then i change the monitor settings, choose my monitor, say that its widescreen, set the correct resolution and reboot, then it tells me it cant be configured and starts in like 800x600
[23:47] <tommy__> ok
[23:47] <element> nothing wrong for me
[23:47] <Flannel> blahblahx: Sure it will, you just have to customize the liveCD independantly.  I don't believe theres a method in place currently to casper up a current system
[23:47] <Jordan_U> t|om, Please file a bug report
[23:47] <frank_> numus: did you try the restricted drivers manager?
[23:47] <seamus7_> orb2: you have to inistall compizconfig-settings-manager in synaptic in order to get the cube options
[23:47] <cesar_> well i dont have login, adduser, or passwd anymore, so i'm not sure how i'm going to use my computer
[23:47] <Rob125> Speaker219: http://edoceo.com/liber/ubuntu-live-usb
[23:47] <Laris> Hi
[23:47] <garu> Stormx2 how do I do that?turn dma on?
[23:47] <numus> frank_ ya it is enabled but it is not being used
[23:47] <Laris> ?
[23:47] <orb2> seamus7_: okay how do I do that
[23:47] <Rob125> speaker219: I lied. It wasn't Christer Edwards.
[23:47] <Rob_> hello
[23:47] <scguy318> cesar_: dunno, d/l ISO image, do a CD upgrade?
[23:47] <Stormx2> !dma > garu
[23:47] <frank_> numus: and you restarted X?
[23:47] <element> how do i install compiz fusion on Ubuntu?
[23:47] <seamus7_> orb2: do in terminal... sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:47] <scguy318> cesar_: the torrents are veery fast
[23:48] <databuddy> Flannel http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Live_CD_distributions#Create_your_own_Debian_Live_CD
[23:48] <Jordan_U> element, Install Gutsy :)
[23:48] <pwnt-> Hey
[23:48] <scguy318> ubotu, compiz | element
[23:48] <ubotu> element: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:48] <numus> frank_ yes
[23:48] <orb2> seamus7_: okay thanks i'll try that
[23:48] <databuddy> that lets you create livecd of perfect install ;)
[23:48] <charles> anyone have any idea how to solve a window creation error?
[23:48] <numus> frank_ i selected the nvidia drviers and it keeps going to vesa everytime i restart
[23:48] <Dumptruck> so copy and paste the pastebin into my menu.lst file?  what changes were made?
[23:48] <dr_spork> Does anyone know where keyboard shortcuts are stored in Gutsy? I just upgraded and now the keyboard shortcuts app doesn't actually affect the shortcuts at all.
[23:48] <cesar_> let's just get one thing clear guys
[23:48] <cesar_> the name of it is GUTSY, not GUSTY
[23:48] <pwnt-> I try to do a backup for my home/user and it doesn't work, using rsync. check this http://pastebin.com/m4a3f4867 - anyhelp would be appreciate, I try to backup them in my external HDD.
[23:48] <databuddy> so get your system configged etc properly and then do that and yer damn golden
[23:48] <justin__> Anyone suggest a good bittorrent client? The Ubuntu default one is horribly unconfigurable.
[23:48] <scguy318> cesar_: the next one should be called Horny Hedghog :P
[23:48] <src> Dumptruck, just copy the changes around lines 33
[23:48] <Dumptruck> I like gusty
[23:48] <Stormx2> justin__: Deluge.
[23:48] <noor> IT WORKED IT WORKED XD XD!!! my compiz fusion has window border, i feel like a 12 year old girl who just had some ice creame! linux FTW!!!
[23:48] <pwnt-> justin__: I use freeloader it ruck.
[23:48] <frank_> !nvidia
[23:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:48] <Slart> justin__: azureus seems popular
[23:48] <lavender_dream> um... anyone just get a tzdata as recommended update in the update manager?
[23:48] <scguy318> justin___: uTorrent, rTorrent
[23:49] <garu> Stormx2 that's for 6.06 right?
[23:49] <cesar_> are there any chicks here?
[23:49] <seamus7_> orb2: the Effects Tab in Appearances will then have a Custom / Preferences option
[23:49] <cesar_> asl everyone
[23:49] <scguy318> justin___: i know the former is Windows, but Wine ;)
[23:49] <pyrak> my installation crashed 3/4 of the way through
[23:49] <justin__> Ahhh lot's of suggestions, thanks guys, I'll check them all out.
[23:49] <pyrak> how do i go about doing something like a repair installation?
[23:49] <pierigno> Hi all
[23:49] <CroiX> So, now that Gutsy is released, how often can we expect updates--and should we expect these updates to add additional hardware support?
[23:49] <Stormx2> garu: it'll work on other versions...
[23:49] <pyrak> can i do that without overwriting my data?
[23:49] <caner> what is the problem with nvidia-glx it is extremely slow on my machine geforce go 7200  doesnt matter i run compiz or not.
[23:49] <cesar_> i'm trying to turn my girlfriend to ubuntu
[23:49] <CroiX> I ask because my hardware is pretty new, and is not really fully supported yet.
[23:49] <cesar_> she'll be a hot chick that uses linux
[23:49] <pierigno> i'm having problem during Gutsy installation...
[23:49] <Stormx2> cesar_: #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[23:49] <garu> Stormx2 its ok, just finished erasing it...thanks ;)
[23:49] <frank_> numus: you can try sudo nvidia-xconfig then restart X
[23:49] <pwnt-> so anybody is well experienced in backuping the /home/username ? I try to do that for ages and always getting errors in both rsync & cp
[23:49] <Dumptruck> it looks exactly the same as what I have
[23:49] <Slart> cesar_: there is an offtopic channel for that stuff.. this channel is crowded enough as it is
[23:50] <pierigno> ubiquity freezes calling gparted
[23:50] <telexicon> I am trying to run a portscan but nmap consistently hangs when running scans
[23:50] <seamus7_> justin__: Deluge is excellent ... download and install the latest at deluge-torrent.org ... version 5.5-2
[23:50] <tck0> where are the transparency settings for compiz that's installed by default in 7.10 ?
[23:50] <cesar_> well no one is listening to my problems
[23:50] <Stormx2> pwnt-: cp -av usually does it for me
[23:50] <src> Dumptruck, do a page refresh
[23:50] <t|om> Jordan_U: I installed the wizarpen driver the manual way like described in the wiki. Do I really report a bug then?
[23:50] <numus> frank_ can i make the boardname nvidia in xorg.conf or should i keep it versa
[23:50] <Squid_> does anyone have ever used a mix CD audio and data on ubuntu I can not see the tracks sound juicer dos not play it either see the tracks
[23:50] <numus> err vesa
[23:50] <cesar_> ubuntu is basically broken now, i have to back up everything and do a clean install :(
[23:50] <tass> scquy318: well, testdisk is only if i had a backup :/
[23:50] <LiMaO> where do i configure/see installed joysticks/joypads on gutsy?
[23:50] <tass> another idea?
[23:50] <pwnt-> Stormx2: I try doing it to my external HDD. and i keep getting these errors in both cp & rsync,. http://pastebin.com/m4a3f4867
[23:50] <Stormx2> cesar_: Your girlfriend using linux is not something that should be addressed here.
[23:50] <dredhammer> can anyone tell me what i need to install to have kde programs look like they did in feisty, they for some reason look really ugly in gutsy
[23:50] <Slart> cesar_: I didn't even see your question.. what was the problem?
[23:50] <lucita> hello
[23:50] <cesar_> ok, chill
[23:50] <Stormx2> pwnt-: Try using sudo? ;)
[23:50] <Dumptruck> sorry I did - still the same - sorry I don't mean to be such a bother
[23:51] <frank_> numus: the driver in the section device should be "nvidia"
[23:51] <cesar_> Slart: the upgrade manager gets multiple errors, login, passwd, adduser, among many other programs cannot be installed
[23:51] <scguy318> tass: well, I think that's really your only choice
[23:51] <numus> frank_ the driver is but the board says vesa
[23:51] <lucita> I have just upgrade my 7.04 to 7.10 and i have lost the sound, any ideas_
[23:51] <src> Dumptruck, do you see the 2 lines that start with "map"?
[23:51] <pierigno> the program cannot access my disks...it seems strange as I can however navigate the file system in livecd environment
[23:51] <Slart> cesar_: are you using some kind of weird mirror?
[23:51] <pwnt-> Stormx2: I did, same :)
[23:51] <SirBob1701> is pidgin not saving settings for anyone else?
[23:51] <Dumptruck> no
[23:51] <src> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41236/
[23:51] <scguy318> tass: there is Rescubuntu
[23:51] <cesar_> all i did was click on the update manager
[23:51] <Joikast> Hello
[23:51] <quodlibetor> I'm having problems connecting to a WPA network
[23:52] <cesar_> and at the top it said that a new ubuntu was available, so iclicked on upgrade
[23:52] <quodlibetor> also hello
[23:52] <Stormx2> cesar_: Any idea why? open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --assume-yes dist-upgrade"
[23:52] <numus> frank_ i messed up my monitor settings though
[23:52] <kynes> where can I find a Pidgin log about a crash caused by my plugin?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> t|om, I guess not, the wiki should be fixed or a bug report sent to the developer of the driver itself
[23:52] <frank_> numus: you mean the boardname? starnge
[23:52] <Joikast> Can someone please help me to upgrade my graphics card drivers?
[23:52] <Slart> cesar_: please put the nick of the person you're addressing first on the line.. helps see your messages
[23:52] <seamus7_> lucita: go to volume preferences and make sure the correct driver is being used ... maybe it got switched over somehow
[23:52] <cesar_> stormx2: its in the middle of updating right now, can i do that?
[23:52] <fant> When i upgraded to 710 i no longer have a network icon in my gnome-panel  ... so i have to manually configure my wireless settings in the shell to get access to it.  Anyone know how to fix it
[23:52] <sulan> this is driving me insane: I upgraded to Gutsy yesterday and now I can't login to vsftpd using SSL: ls: Fatal error: gnutls_record_recv: A record packet with illegal version was received.
[23:52] <Stormx2> cesar_: probably not. Wait for your updates to finish.
[23:52] <numus> brb frank_) going to restart then i have to leave for a little
[23:52] <numus> thanks though
[23:52] <src> Dumptruck, you see them now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41236/
[23:53] <Jordan_U> fant, Try running "nm-applet &"
[23:53] <Slart> fant: we could switch computers.. I'm having a hard time getting rid of that icon.. always keeps coming back =)
[23:53] <K3nt> hmm. for the cube effect, how do i keep it from flip-flopping after i change desktops. is that called timestep?
[23:53] <PovAddict> any idea how to get an SD card reader working?
[23:53] <Dumptruck> yes
[23:53] <Stormx2> K3nt: #ubuntu-effects please.
[23:53] <Dumptruck> thank you
[23:53] <fant> haha .. thanks
[23:53] <K3nt> kk thanks
 no suitable driver
[23:53] <sulan> this is under x86_64
[23:53] <src> Dumptruck, you can also change root (hd1,0) to rootnoverify hd(1,0)
[23:53] <lucita> but it was working under 7.04
[23:53] <t|om> Jordan_U: IK, I think the best way is reporting this to the Wiki author, thx
[23:53] <Slart> K3nt, Stormx2: I think ubuntu-effects has moved to #compiz-fusion.. there might be a redirect
[23:54] <Dumptruck> what what?
[23:54] <Dumptruck> I mean wait what
[23:54] <fant> jordan_u:  that just returns [1] 9616 in the shell but doesnt start it
[23:54] <Dumptruck> is that a needed change?  How do I write it?
[23:54] <seamus7_> lucita: maybe you need to enable certain option in order to adjust the volume .. sometimes they are turned down and must be manually increased
[23:54] <src> Dumptruck, try it like this and if it doesnt work we'll see... Just add the 2 lines I added
[23:55] <quodlibetor> anybody: my network manager is discovering my WPA network, asking me for a password, and then not logging in
[23:55] <seamus7_> lucita: sometimes a reboot works if it's just a one time fluke
[23:55] <Dumptruck> ok I'll be back in a moment
[23:55] <pyrak> is there a way i can do a restore install without losing my files?
[23:55] <pyrak> my edgy upgrade crashed 3/4 of the way through, and im afraid some things may not have installed right
[23:55] <Stormx2> pyrak: Make a backup of /home and reinstall.
[23:55] <Stormx2> pyrak: Ah, don't worry, that can be sorted out. Can you boot the system?
[23:55] <Blama> Ljl, Are you there?
[23:55] <pyrak> storm2, yeah, im on it now
 rebooted twice, the control volumen, the bars dont appear, looks like no card was recognised
[23:56] <pyrak> storm2, i meant gutsy upgrade, by the way
[23:56] <speaker219> My 7.10 Gusty download is at 95% :p excited
[23:56] <Stormx2> pyrak: Well, you should be able to resume the upgrade.
[23:56] <pyrak> storm2, it says it's already upgraded
[23:56] <pyrak> storm2, and i seem to have most of the features
[23:56] <Stormx2> pyrak: Well then, you'd better trust it :)
[23:56] <Tchaka> I am wondering if it's a good idea to update ubuntu 7.04 -> 7.10. Apparently there are still some bugs and several people have problems with this new version, no?
[23:56] <bulmer> quodlibetor: without the wpa, does it work?
[23:56] <pyrak> storm2, but when i boot up the screen is just brown
[23:56] <fant> Jordan_U: did you get that message ?
[23:56] <quodlibetor> bulmer. nope
[23:56] <Shapeshifter> I don't _really_ get the excitment about gutsy. I didn't notice anything significantly different until now...
[23:56] <quodlibetor> almost, once
[23:56] <pyrak> storm2, when it used to have the thing with the little icons and the bongoes playing
[23:56] <Stormx2> pyrak: To be sure, do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --assume-yes dist-upgrade <--that will do any remaining upgrades
[23:57] <quodlibetor> bulmer, but then it stopped
[23:57] <bulmer> quodlibetor: then get the unencrypted version work first
[23:57] <Slart> Tchaka: if you don't need it right away I would wait a week or two.. let other people deal with the new problems.. update faqs etc etc
[23:57] <pyrak> storm2, ok i'll try, thanks
[23:57] <LjL> Blama: yes
[23:57] <seamus7_> lucita: so you've right clicked on the volume applet in the panel and chosen preferences ... palyed around with them .. the opened up volume control and made sure nothing was set to mute or turned down ... then tested other preferences ... ?
[23:57] <lavender_dream> !restricted
[23:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:57] <Stormx2> lavender_dream: Who was that for?
[23:57] <Blama> LjL, do you want all ten or so lines from the " mount | grep "on /" "?
[23:58] <myusrnm> libmp3lame.so ?
[23:58] <myusrnm> what is that?
[23:58] <quodlibetor> bulmer: that makes so much sense i feel like i've tried it, i'll brb if it doesn't start working
[23:58] <Tchaka> Slart, I think I will wait for one month, and then maybe I will update
[23:58] <codecaine> anybody else suffering from slow internet connection on gusty?
[23:58] <Tigerman> hello
[23:58] <Stormx2> myusrnm: A file? ;D
[23:58] <Tigerman> i have a problem
[23:58] <lavender_dream> Stormx2: myself, sorry if I'm not following an obscure protocol with it...
[23:58] <pyrak> storm2, hm, it says i'm fine...
[23:58] <LjL> Blama: no. because i asked for the output of       mount | grep "on / "          . there is a space after the slash and before the quotation mark.
[23:58] <fant> Anyone know how to make sure the nm-applet is starting with X ?
[23:58] <Cable86> codecaine: nope, my internet is fine
[23:58] <pyrak> storm2, how do you enable the neat cube thingey?
[23:58] <pyrak> storm2, i still just have the "desktop effects" button
[23:58] <Stormx2> lavender_dream: not really that obscure. This channel moves fast. Please use /msg ubotu if the message is only for yourself, thanks :)
[23:58] <lavender_dream> Stormx2: thank you, will do that next time.
[23:59] <Tigerman> i have lost my Restart and Shutdown buttons... how can i enable them?
[23:59] <r0b-> whats a program in Ubuntu to burn a bootable ISO
[23:59] <myusrnm> my computer needs libmp3lame.so to run a program, what is this / where do i find it ?
[23:59] <seamus7_> lucita: notice in Volume Control under File .. there is the option to change the device ..
[23:59] <Slart> Tchaka: sounds like a good plan.. as you said, there seems to be some problems.. but I'm sure they'll be sorted out in due time
[23:59] <Blama> LjL, this is hard because I have to boot out of windows and into Ubuntu, change the settings and then do it.. and I cant stay in it because I cant get internet on Ubuntu yet...
 i go to System>preference>sounds and then the tab called Devices is empty
[23:59] <Flannel> myusrnm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libmp3lame.so&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[23:59] <codecaine> weird like respirtory and everything slow on my end
[23:59] <Slart> !info libmp3lame
[23:59] <ubotu> Package libmp3lame does not exist in gutsy
[23:59] <garu> r0b use k3b
[23:59] <kitche> myusrnm: liblame is probably what you want
[23:59] <codecaine> but on my desktop with feisty its fast
[23:59] <dn4> Linux dn4 2.6.22-14-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Oct 15 01:05:51 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:59] <Slart> !find libmp3lame
[23:59] <Blama> LjL, brb
[23:59] <Jordan_U> lucita, What about the command "asoundconf list" ?
[23:59] <Stormx2> myusrnm: You probably need lame? ^_^
[23:59] <ubotu> Package/file libmp3lame does not exist in gutsy
[23:59] <r0b-> for Gnome?
[23:59] <Slart> !find libmp3lame.so
[23:59] <K3nt> anything updates in terms of games in gutsy?


[05:52] <Dracari> is iot easier tyo Just remove existing Linux partitions before changing to xubuntu? i decided to switch away from PCLinuxOS on my laptop to xubuntu
[05:52] <Dracari> and its a Dell Inspirion 1300
[06:06] <Balsaq> is xubuntu going to be the only OS in that computer when you are done Dracari ?
[06:09] <Dracari> No
[06:10] <Dracari> it dualboot sXP and PCLinuxOS curretly
[06:27] <Balsaq> easier...probably, especially if you can make backups.
[06:28] <Balsaq> just in case.....
[07:16]  * Dracari sighs " its funny.. i gave Up FFXI awhile back but every time i hear a few of the good Tracks from teh various soundtracks to it.. i wonder why i Gave it up..*
[07:16] <Dracari> i wonder how far Wine and DirectX games are these days in Linux.
[07:16] <Dracari> i havent tried to run FFXI PC under Wine since 8.04
[08:44] <Dracari> this app UNetBootin has been handy for x86/x86-64 Installs/liveCD testing :3 Saves me bunch of $$ on CD-R's
[09:13] <Dracari> great.... i haveto manually download and install my Network drivers for my laptop.
[09:13] <Dracari> (wireless is Broadcom based)
[09:14] <Dracari> Great... so is the Eithernet.
[09:49] <Dracari> How can i manually install broadcom drivers -_-both eithernet AND Wireless are broadcom based on this laptop
[09:59] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[09:59] <eagles0513875> was there someone who needed help with broadcom
[09:59] <eagles0513875> wifi
[09:59] <eagles0513875> Balsaq:
[09:59] <eagles0513875> what was his name
[09:59] <Dracari> <---
[10:00] <Dracari> the laptops Eithernet And Wireless are Broadcom
[10:00] <Balsaq> yeah it dracari
[10:00] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can you open up the command line for me
[10:00] <eagles0513875> anythign you do on linux wont effect  windows drivers or anything
[10:01] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can you let me know when you have the commandline open please
[10:01] <Dracari> Wifi 43xx based wired 44xx based
[10:01] <eagles0513875> forget the wired
[10:01] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can i get the exact wifi model please
[10:01] <Dracari> to be precise Wifi is the 4318 and Wired 4401-B0
[10:02] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can you type the following on command line : sudo apt-get install bw43-fwcutter
[10:02] <eagles0513875> then reboot and see if it works
[10:02] <Dracari> Cant
[10:02] <Dracari> its completly Isolated from internet
[10:03] <Dracari> Because Both are Broadcom based requring the cutter in the first place
[10:03] <eagles0513875> when you installed xubuntu did you have the ethernet plugged in ?
[10:03] <Dracari> No
[10:03] <Dracari> and its 10.04 Lucid Lynx beta 2
[10:03] <Balsaq> yikes
[10:03] <eagles0513875> ok can you plug it in to the wired
[10:04] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: not yikes
[10:04] <Balsaq> qool...i be quiet
[10:04] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: its looking quite nice
[10:04] <Balsaq> i see that
[10:04] <eagles0513875> Dracari: can you wire your self up
[10:04] <Dracari> i get Nothing when the Eithernet line is connected
[10:05] <eagles0513875> ok do sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[10:05] <eagles0513875> that will bring the wired network up
[10:05] <eagles0513875> once you do that command do ifconfig
[10:05] <eagles0513875> and let me know if eth0 has an ip
[10:06] <Dracari> doesnt even show even an <IP_ADDRESS> Ip
[10:06] <eagles0513875> did you do sudo ifconfig eth- up
[10:06] <eagles0513875> eth0 up
[10:06] <Dracari> yes
[10:07] <Dracari> theres nothing showing for eth0  for inet addr Mask or the ipv6  only under lo does it show anything
[10:07] <eagles0513875> ok hold on
[10:10] <eagles0513875> auto eth0
[10:11] <eagles0513875> then
[10:11] <eagles0513875> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:11] <Dracari> got no command 'auto' found
[10:11] <eagles0513875> O_o
[10:11] <eagles0513875> sounds like an incomplete install
[10:12] <Dracari> Installed via USB (UNetBootin) as im low on CD-Rs
[10:12] <eagles0513875> Dracari: do you have any data you need on  xubuntu
[10:12] <eagles0513875> thats ok
[10:12] <eagles0513875> Dracari: then in that case i recommend a reinstall with the ethernet plugged in
[10:12] <Dracari> i havent used xubuntu since 8.04
[10:13] <Dracari> and i ha dit remove and install the previous Distro that was on it. (PCLinuxOS)
[10:13] <Balsaq> they arent even done fixin beta yet eagles0513875
[10:13] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: its due out this month
[10:14] <Dracari> 9.10's installer wasnt detecting XP or even PCLinuxOS on the HDD
[10:14] <Balsaq> i know
[10:14] <Balsaq> noone in devel has metnioned issues with wireless though...
[10:14] <eagles0513875> Dracari: have you tried using karmic to install then upgrading via network from karmic to lucid
[10:14] <Dracari> had the same prob w/ 9.10 and my win7 box it inturn Actually screwed up 7's System partition killing my install of 7.
[10:15] <eagles0513875> Dracari: did dual boot or tried to with 7 and karmic killed my win install
[10:15] <Dracari> Dualboot
[10:15] <eagles0513875> ya it was dual boot
[10:15] <eagles0513875> ended up going back to windows 7 :(
[10:16] <Dracari> i was installing to my 200GB HDD (IDE) while 7 wa son my 500GB sata
[10:16] <eagles0513875> Dracari: same wiht me 500gb on win 7 and 2tb on karmic but fudged something up
[10:16] <Dracari> it wouldnt detect 7 on the sata drive it just saw an active NTFS partition on the sata
[10:16] <Balsaq> ndswrapper?
[10:17] <Dracari> maybe  as to dualbooting 9.10 onward is 7 has a new partition scheming and bootloader than vista
[10:17] <eagles0513875> Dracari: im not sure on that
[10:17] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: what bout it
[10:18] <eagles0513875> Dracari: if you do a reinstall with ethernet plugged it its possible that the wifi driver the reverse engineer open source driver
[10:18] <Balsaq> isnt that how you get a windows/linux machine  running wireless?
[10:18] <Dracari> but back to the dell lappy. the incomplete install theory has some merit.
[10:18] <eagles0513875> if not the driver you want is the bw43-fwcutter
[10:18] <eagles0513875> Balsaq: you dont need it anymore
[10:18] <Dracari> in the live CD
[10:18] <eagles0513875> Dracari: how so
[10:18] <Dracari> err USB, it said there was restricted Drivers avilable. and it needed to download and install the fwcutter
[10:18] <Dracari> its not doing that post install.
[10:19] <eagles0513875> you can do it via commandline
[10:19] <eagles0513875> but if u dont have ethernet
[10:19] <Dracari> if it matters m,uch the laptop model is Inspirion 1300
[10:19] <eagles0513875> u would need to reinstall with the ethernet plugged in
[10:19] <eagles0513875> that way it can pull it during install
[10:20] <Dracari> ok i still have the usb drive set as a LiveUSB
[10:21]  * Dracari fidgets thru 15 lookalike pendrives
[10:21] <eagles0513875> Dracari:  ok ill be back after this lecture when i relocate to see if everything is working for ya
[10:21] <eagles0513875> hehe i have an old 4gb pen drive which i use as install
[10:21] <eagles0513875> usbg
[10:21] <eagles0513875> usbs
[10:21] <Dracari> i have a modded Wii where i load my own backed up games via USB
[10:22] <Dracari> usefull since the Drive in it is wearing out.
[10:22] <eagles0513875> nice
[10:22] <Dracari> it no longer reads GC discs so its a matter of time before its totally shot
[10:23] <Dracari> cant complain.. got it for 10$ from my cousin.
[10:23] <eagles0513875> sounds like a bad drive
[10:23] <Dracari> yea i got a 2nd wii from a pawnshop but the two are an Ironic Pair
[10:23] <Dracari> (2nd one for 30$ w/ extra set of cables)
[10:23] <eagles0513875> nice
[10:24] <Dracari> the 2nd one..... cant read DVD Discs only GC discs
[10:24] <eagles0513875> ill be back
[10:24] <eagles0513875> to check on how the reinstall went
[10:24] <Dracari> imm going to tell teh installer to Just reuse and reformat the old install's partitions
[10:24] <eagles0513875> thats fine
[10:24] <eagles0513875> im gonna relocate and ill be back asap
[10:25] <Dracari> eithernet is plugge din however
[10:25] <Dracari> showing Eithernet is Disconnected
[10:27] <knome> ethernet
[10:35] <Dracari> well . i may as well muck with my DS till eagles is back.
[10:35] <Dracari> as even under LiveUSB w/ eithernet connected there sstill no internet access
[10:35] <Dracari> **ethernet
[10:43] <Dracari> wb Balsaq
[10:44] <Balsaq> i know what was that
[10:44] <Dracari> it said you timed out
[10:44] <Balsaq> hmmm
[10:46] <eagles0513875> Balsaq:
[10:46] <eagles0513875> there he is nm
[10:47] <eagles0513875> Dracari: how are things going
[10:47] <Dracari> wb eagles0513875 and i didnt start i booted into the LiveUSB and Ethernet is Still down
[10:48] <eagles0513875> humm
[10:48] <eagles0513875> Dracari: did you have this issue with karmic
[10:48] <Dracari> No
[10:48] <eagles0513875> Dracari: then do this install karmic then do the upgrade from karmic to lucid
[10:49] <Dracari> i have a live CD but i'll double check
[10:50] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:51] <Dracari> can the Upgrade be done from the LiveUSBfor Lucid or hasto be done via upgrade in apt-get/yum ?
[10:52] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[10:52] <eagles0513875> see the 2nd link i think it can be done using usb im not sure
[10:52] <Dracari> because its going to take close to an hr and ahalf via internet as i only have a 1.5mb dsl.
[10:52] <eagles0513875> normally i just use the internet
[10:58] <Dracari> unless my karmic cd is scratched its taking a Highly long time to boot -_-
[10:58] <eagles0513875> O_o
[10:58] <eagles0513875> depends on ur system specs
[10:58] <Dracari> the boot time from usb on lucid was less than 2 mins
[10:58] <eagles0513875> cd is always slower the usb
[10:58] <eagles0513875> speed wise
[10:59] <Dracari> Karmic reporting Wired network is down. >_<
[10:59] <Dracari> the closet i have left on CD is 7.04 (my 8.10 cd is too damaged)
[10:59] <eagles0513875> wait
[11:00] <eagles0513875> try this
[11:00] <eagles0513875> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:00] <eagles0513875> and check to make sure its plugged in on both the router as well as laptop end
[11:00] <psycho_oreos> you can check that via mii-tools
[11:01] <Dracari> hmmmm Maybe...
[11:01]  * Dracari is thinking..
[11:01] <eagles0513875> Dracari: did sudo ifconfig eth0 up bring anything up?
[11:01] <Dracari> the router its connected to is a DD-WRT enabled linksys
[11:02] <Dracari> and is under Repater mode
[11:02] <Dracari> *Repeater
[11:02] <eagles0513875> thats why
[11:02] <eagles0513875> most likely
[11:02] <eagles0513875> probably have to change it to router
[11:02] <Dracari> eth0 is like before showing Nothing for inet addr for etho only for lo
[11:02] <psycho_oreos> you use dhclient for that
[11:02] <Dracari> i wonder if Repeater bridge would work.
[11:03] <eagles0513875> Dracari: try what psycho_oreos said try using dhclient to see if u can get an ip using dhcp
[11:03] <Dracari> the Main DSL Modem (2wire gateway) is in the other end of the trailer
[11:04] <eagles0513875> humm
[11:04] <eagles0513875> Dracari: whats ur network setup so i can get an idea of the layout
[11:05] <Dracari> dhclient is spamming " DHCPDISCVER on eth0  to <IP_ADDRESS> on port 67 interval 16    send_packet: Network is down
[11:05] <psycho_oreos> Dracari, sounds like networkmanager is interfering with the operations if its running
[11:06] <Dracari> 2Wire Gate = Modem and Router ---- DD-wrt router connected atm as Repeater to make teh connectionover in my bedroom however this pc is connecte dwirelessly to the 2wire
[11:06] <Dracari> i dont have an *ethernet line long enough to streach over
[11:07] <eagles0513875> O_O wirelessly to the wire
[11:07] <eagles0513875> can u get closer to the cable
[11:07] <Dracari> yes i can connect the lappy to the 2wire modem
[11:09] <Dracari> the network in terms of client: Net source : 2wire -- Clients "Windows7 Box"(wirelessly) "BrotherPC" (wired to 2wire) "UNKNOWNID:[dd-wrt router] (Wirelessly) Xbox 1 (wired-dd-wrt) Wii's (Wirelessly to 2wire) Laptop:Wireles sto 2wire under XP/ Wired or Wireless to dd-wrt when i nee dto change AP's)
[11:09] <Dracari> if that makes any sense
[11:09] <Dracari> and brb nature calls.
[11:12] <Dracari> back
[11:14] <eagles0513875> Dracari:
[11:15] <eagles0513875> we need to temporarily wire urself to ur connection so you can download the wifi driver
[11:15] <eagles0513875> you understanding what im getting at
[11:15] <Dracari> yea im shutting it down now to move it
[11:15] <eagles0513875> also you need the connection to download any updates there might be since the cd was created
[11:16] <Dracari> im going to first see if this is whats techincally blocking ethernet under lucid.
[11:16] <Dracari> if nada i'll boot back up the karmic CD
[11:16] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:18] <psycho_oreos> what was the wifi chipset for curious sake?
[11:19] <Dracari> 4318
[11:20] <psycho_oreos> ahh
[11:21] <Dracari> brb moving laptop to the 2wire
[11:24] <Dracari> either it was the Cable or the Router
[11:24] <Dracari> it has connection in Lucid via ethernet
[11:25] <Dracari> brb while i get it to install wireless drivers
[11:29] <Cael2> on the laptop now
[11:30] <Cael2> it installed the driver however
[11:30] <Balsaq> nice...
[11:30] <Cael2> it now says for wireless "Device not ready"
[11:30] <Cael2> that mean i need to restart?
[11:30] <Balsaq> prolly
[11:30] <Balsaq> gonna need eagles
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> make sure you configure it with network manager, I've said that twice now
[11:31] <Cael2> well thats what network manager is saying psycho_oreos
[11:31] <Cael2> for wireless that is
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> !broadcom
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> did you follow fw-cutter steps?
[11:31] <Cael2> i had the Hardware Drivers thing do its job.
[11:32] <Cael2> the one that comes up when theres Restricted Drivers available
[11:32] <psycho_oreos> pastebin (not paste) your dmesg output
[11:34] <Cael2> http://pastebin.com/fC7iXxKh
[11:36] <Cael2> and man i need to dust out my file/web server im next to.. its filthy! (i got a lil server running CentOS acting as a web and file server thats directly connected to the 2wire :P)
[11:36] <psycho_oreos> apparently you haven't followed the !broadcom guide
[11:36] <psycho_oreos> you'll need to do that, installing the firmware, the firmware is missing
[11:37] <Cael2> then the lil Hardware Drivers thing missed something.
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> which version?
[11:39] <Cael2> the one that came w/ Lucid
[11:39] <Cael2> under Applications --System--Hardware Drivers
[11:39] <Cael2> thats how i first installed the drivers when i moved the laptop over here
[11:41] <psycho_oreos> probably under lucid the hardware drivers program cannot handle it or the command of installing it must be manually invoked
[11:44] <Cael2> followed the broadcom guide upto where i neede dto do sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source it ran it it did what i needed to when i got to bring up Hardware Drivers it said something " a diffrent driver version is installed"
[11:44] <psycho_oreos> you're following the wrong part of the guide
[11:45] <psycho_oreos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Internet%20Access
[11:47] <Cael2> ok now it says b43-fwcutter is allready the newest version"
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> check under /lib/firmware for a directory called b43 and inside that directory, it contains files ending with .fw
[11:49] <Cael2> i see alot of files
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> ending with .fw?
[11:49] <Cael2> yes
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> how is this wireless card connected?
[11:50] <Cael2> its not im still connected via Wired
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> I mean hardware connections, is it PCI or is it PCMCIA?
[11:50] <Cael2> NetworkManager still says  for the wifi "device not ready"
[11:50] <Cael2> ohh
[11:50] <Cael2> Built in
[11:51] <psycho_oreos> hmm ok, so its PCI, I'd try removing b43 and ssb modules, and reload them again
[11:51] <Cael2> how would i go about that?
[11:52] <psycho_oreos> sudo modprobe -r {b43,ssb} && sudo modprobe b43
[11:52] <Cael2> "FATAL: Module ssb is in use"
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> lsmod| grep b43
[11:54] <Cael2> ok
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> did that return anything?
[11:58] <Cael2> no
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> sudo modprobe b43
[11:59] <Cael2> that worked.. its now seeing Wireless AP's
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> and you should be able to connect and all now
[12:00] <Cael2> yep ^^
[12:00] <Cael2> one last thing before i shut this down and move it back to my bedroom.
[12:01] <Cael2> my PPC iMac (G4) the wireless drivers are installed but...
[12:01] <Cael2> be it protected or unprotected AP's it wont connect
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> probably the same issue if under linux, missing firmware
[12:02] <Cael2> its a Apple Wifi card
[12:02] <Cael2> i cant exactly tell if you'd call it PCI or PCMCIA
[12:02] <Cael2> as theres an PCMCIA liek adapter on the bottom of the mac.
[12:03] <Cael2> and its stuck using Low graphics mode
[12:03] <Cael2> (says something about unable to find an proper framebuffer device)
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> afaik Apple loves to use broadcrap chipset (the same that you're using right now to get that wireless working)
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> probably missing drivers
[12:03] <Cael2> (but it has an ATI Rage PRO 128 TL
[12:04] <psycho_oreos> yeah you'll need to use the ati driver under xorg
[12:04] <Cael2> i dont recall the Exact lspci listing for the Wireless card but comething GMAC wa slisted
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> can't help if you aren't specific, just hardware your imac for the time being
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> hardwire*
[12:10] <Cael2> oddly...
[12:10] <Cael2> it had the same issue as before.
[12:10] <Cael2> i'll try swapping Ethernet cables.
[12:10] <Cael2> bet ya the cable i was using is Bad
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> if the cable was bad, you won't see it light up on either from the port its connected to or the switch/router, etc
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> and mii-tool would not yield anything about it being link ok
[12:11] <Cael2> well i noticed Exactly that
[12:12] <Cael2> and brb moving the laptop cant stand any longer. (i have no chair by the 2wire and having 3 ruptured discs in my back standing this time i'm in terrible pain.
[12:18] <Dracari> back
[12:20] <Dracari> well
[12:21] <Dracari> its not working now.. i hope i dont haveto manually do the modprobe b43 every time -_-
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> so you did modprobe b43 to make it work?
[12:24] <Dracari> yes
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> probably because you're using lucid that's why
[12:24] <Dracari> is there a way to make that happen automaticly on boot?
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> add it into /etc/rc.conf
[12:24] <psycho_oreos> err /etc/rc.local
[12:29] <Dracari> add it before or after "exit 0"?
[12:29] <psycho_oreos> before
[12:47] <Dracari> well psycho_oreos i see why i wasnt getting a response from the ethernet ealier..
[12:47] <Dracari> blasted cable is Bad
[12:48] <psycho_oreos> Dracari, lol
[12:48] <Dracari> the iMac and laptop are now grabbing updates
[12:49] <Dracari> i could of saved myself and everyone So much hassle by checking that in the first place -_-
[12:49] <psycho_oreos> and you can rule out of the machines being faulty :)
[12:49] <psycho_oreos> or linux for that matter
[12:50] <Dracari> as an old saying goes
[12:50] <Dracari> "User Error"
[12:53] <Dracari> all thast left is to install the ATI Drivers
[12:53] <Dracari> for the iMac
[13:20] <Dracari> well psycho_oreos im going to bed i have yet to.. Night :3
[13:20] <psycho_oreos> Dracari, nite nite
[17:22] <ircipimp> does xubuntu lucid still rely on dbus to launch gnome-keyring-daemon?
[17:22] <ircipimp> because  here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/357346 it says so
[17:22] <ircipimp> BUT
[17:22] <ircipimp> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/RunningDaemon
[17:23] <ircipimp> This suggests, that when started by DBUS the keyring-daemon only has limited functionality and especially no ssh-agent and key storage
[17:24] <ircipimp> so i suspect, that xfce4-session relies on dbus, which causes the keyring-daemon to come up crippled
[17:29] <ircipimp> the keyring daemon has 3 startup services in /etc/xdg/autostart which get started, but whose printed variables are not added to the environment by eval/export
[17:54] <ircipimp> ok, i filed a bug: #564831
[17:54] <ircipimp> maybe one will take notive
[17:54] <ircipimp> -v+c
[18:01] <Arpad2> hello
[18:02] <Arpad2> is it possible to burn  multisession disk with brasero?
[18:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello Sysi my metal friend :-)
[18:57] <Sysi> ugh, that reminds me of 'teräsbetoni'
[19:06] <Sachse_Siechtum> whats that?
[19:07]  * Sachse_Siechtum gives Sysi some german chocolate
[19:08] <Sysi> oh man
[19:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmmm? What.
[19:10] <Sysi> some day i'll want to find woman that knows that well what i want
[19:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi, There is no such woman
[19:11] <Sysi> propably
[19:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> Women do what they want, and manipulate men, so they think its actually what they want
[19:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> so for example:
[19:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> when I guys walk around in his old worn out leather jacket (i.e. me) and the girlfriend says: this jacket looks so old..why dont you buy a new one?"
[19:13] <Sachse_Siechtum> first the guy will say "no I like this jacket its comfy."
[19:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> but the gf will repeat her mantra...sweet and between other sentences like: "I gonna buy some clothes.
[19:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> til the boyfriend finally gives in.
[19:15] <Sysi> boyfriend still can notice that new jacket is very comfy
[19:16] <Sachse_Siechtum> True. But the new jacket will never be that comfy like the old one.
[19:17] <Sysi> i've never had more that few years old clothes..
[19:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> See. How man shoes do you got?
[19:18] <Sysi> you mean _all_ shoes?
[19:18] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[19:18] <Sysi> six
[19:18] <Sachse_Siechtum> all shoes...well except the ones you wear at home *g*
[19:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[19:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> well and I bet they are all comfy...
[19:25] <Sysi> they do ♥
[19:25] <Sachse_Siechtum> see
[19:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> mine, too (well except for the 30 holes boots..but thats a different story) so women go more for the "looks factor" when they go out. another thing I dont get: When a woman sees another woman who wears the same dress....and the first woman freaks out. Why is that?
[19:32] <Sysi> you should ask some woman, but i think that's one of things where 'women logic' really is best explanation
[19:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> I know why: Because the woman thinks that the other woman looks better in that dress and that all her "beauty making" effort was in vain.
[19:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> and the other woman thinks the same
[19:34] <Sysi> i can agree with that
[19:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> *g* :-)
[19:37] <Sysi> afk → moped
[20:37] <polimatyu> How do I restart my xfce menus?  I've restarted xfce4-panel, and it's visible, but I don't have menus.
[21:20] <mccool_1985> hi all
[21:34] <Fish-Face> I'm looking for a xubuntu .img file of the beta - is this available anywhere?
[21:34] <Sysi> for what you'd need it?
[21:34] <Fish-Face> installing xubuntu from a USB drive
[21:35] <Sysi> use unetbootin or usb-creator?
[21:35] <Fish-Face> using dd :/
[21:35] <Fish-Face> usb-creator just seems to break
[21:35] <mccool_1985> usb-creator is my best option i guess
[21:35] <mccool_1985> depends from where you want to create the image... linux?
[21:36] <mccool_1985> i never had problems with usb-creator
[21:36] <Sysi> what os you're having now?
[21:36] <Fish-Face> 9.10
[21:36] <Fish-Face> Is there no such image available, then?
[21:36] <mccool_1985> if you have a hanging usb-creator, try to turn of any usb external hdds first
[21:36] <mccool_1985> no
[21:36] <Sysi> usb-creator should work, it worked for me
[21:36] <mccool_1985> only iso
[21:37] <Fish-Face> It would hang, but I have no other USB drives
[21:37] <Sysi> have you tried to loa image again?
[21:37] <Fish-Face> does usb-creator install to the device or to the partition?
[21:37] <Fish-Face> both are listed
[21:37] <Sysi> partition
[21:38] <Sysi> ext2 or fat32
[21:38] <Fish-Face> I presume it puts an MBR on there by itself?
[21:38] <Sysi> propably
[21:39] <Fish-Face> nope, usb-creator just hangs again
[21:39] <Fish-Face> as soon as I pick the image
[21:39] <Sysi> interesting
[21:39] <Fish-Face> every so often the compiz "not working" effect lifts from the window, but immediately comes back
[21:39] <Fish-Face> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10, rather than Xubuntu, btw
[21:40] <Sysi> that shouldn't matter
[21:40] <Fish-Face> ofc
[21:40] <Sysi> and we propably aren't that strict here
[21:40] <Sysi> try unetbootin?
[21:40] <Fish-Face> No, I only popped in here because I was looking for a Xubuntu image
[21:41] <Fish-Face> nope
[21:42] <Fish-Face> hmm, hitting ^C while usb-creator mucked about seemed to help o_0
[21:42] <Fish-Face> it got further anyway
[21:46] <Fish-Face> OK something weird is going on with my machine
[21:47] <Fish-Face> ls ~ is hanging
[21:47] <Fish-Face> this is not to do with usb-creator, I feel
[21:47] <Fish-Face> ~$ ls
[21:47] <Fish-Face> ls: cannot access tmp: Host is down
[21:47] <Fish-Face> tmp being a file in ~
[21:51] <Fish-Face> an errant CIFS mount
[22:14] <polimatyu> How do I restart my xfce menus?  I've restarted xfce4-panel, and it's visible, but I don't have menus.
[22:15] <_Techie_> !panels
[22:15] <_Techie_> so thats of no help?
[22:24] <polimatyu> sorry, huge delay due to swap issues
[22:25] <polimatyu> _Techie_: that's what I meant when I said I'd restarted xfce4-panel.
[22:27] <polimatyu> TheIt is running; I can see it, but I don't have an applications or places menu.
[22:27] <_Techie_> okay
[22:28] <_Techie_> Sysi, you around?
[22:43] <Dracari> there any guides in prepping a fully installed and updated xubuntu for PXE Network boot?
[22:44] <Dracari> as i wanna put some yyse into my old compaq laptop where the hdd is gone
[22:45] <Dracari> *use
[22:46] <polimatyu> back in a few
[22:52] <_Techie_> !ltsp
[22:52] <Dracari> :3
[22:53] <_Techie_> there are ways you can load an entire LiveCD into RAM using PXE but they are more complicated
[22:53] <Dracari> well i mean as a Full OS
[22:53] <Dracari> i've seen it done w/ Winblows XP
[22:53] <Dracari> over a gigabit network
[22:53] <_Techie_> you dont ahve to use that term around me, im a windows user
[22:55] <Dracari> it was done here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq6dQ_XefmM
[22:55] <_Techie_> dangit, gimma a few mins to install flash
[22:55] <Dracari> ok
[22:55] <_Techie_> this is a pretty fresh install of ubuntu im running
[22:55] <_Techie_> and i may not be running it for long
[22:56] <_Techie_> you got experience with xorg.conf?
[22:56] <Dracari> not much
[22:56] <_Techie_> know whdere the virtual line goes?
[22:57] <Dracari> no
[22:57] <_Techie_> dang
[22:57] <_Techie_> i started using linux just before they started to implement autodetection so my knowledge of xorg.conf is limited
[23:03] <Dracari> ;-; Heartburn really sucks..
[23:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> heartburn?
[23:14] <Dracari> yea i from time to time suffer from heartburn.
[23:15] <Sachse_Siechtum> what is heartburn?
[23:15] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm german, sorry.
[23:16] <Dracari> basicly stomiache acid comes back up on you thru chest and into the throat.
[23:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah I see
[23:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> like a acid reflux
[23:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> an
[23:17] <Dracari> yes
[23:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[23:18] <Dracari> just as nasty and just as painfull
[23:18] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah that sucks
[23:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> I was eating some cereal yesterday and I got some bits coming up afterwards...and I was like...WTF?


[13:39] <Adrium> Hi there, I don't know how to properly report a bug. There is a bug in the `ktexteditor-data` package: The `script.qrc` file is missing. Emmet will not work. Also see <https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=142536>. The make file is: <https://cgit.kde.org/ktexteditor.git/tree/src/script/data/CMakeLists.txt>


[14:55] <lesser_panda> Morning all, anyone around?
[14:56]  * hrnz is here
[14:56] <lesser_panda> I had a non-support question...
[14:57] <lesser_panda> Long story short I recently installed 12.04 LTS onto a slightly older laptop and, after getting a good handle on the basics, I've developed a keen curiosity for using the terminal and more "involved" uses of Ubuntu for a lack of a better term. I'm seeking resources and guides that would be helpful to a newbie like me.
[15:18] <DJones> lesser_panda: Not sure if these links will help
[15:18] <DJones> !manual
[15:18] <DJones> !terminal
[15:19] <lesser_panda> I will take a look at both, DJones. Thanks!
[15:19] <DJones> lesser_panda: If you want other ideas, might be worth asking in #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[15:20] <lesser_panda> Thanks, I'll go pester them.
[15:22] <DJones> Good luck, ignore the trolls, the channel does have a few
[15:22] <DJones> But its a good place for general discussion
[15:23] <lesser_panda> All right!
[15:35] <DJones> Looks like you're being treated quite well there, you must have caught them on the sunny side :)
[15:35] <lesser_panda> Ha, apparently. Maybe it's just my winning personality?
[15:37] <DJones> Must be