[20:07] <devish> can anyone veryfy that ppa is down
[20:07] <Max00355> Yea i think there is a plugin for it
[20:07] <Zeike> fritsch: if the see the... right wrong?
[20:07] <fritsch> Zeike: you issue chown -R mpd:mpd /var/run/mpd?
[20:07] <VCoolio> if your system get unusable because of ram usage, you have little choice, or install xubuntu-desktop and log in on an xfce session
[20:07] <fritsch> Zeike: sorry for my bad english: the rights of the folder
[20:07] <VCoolio> Andrew131: ^^
[20:07] <bsmith093> is theer a pastebin for images
[20:07] <CaptWho> does anyone have a url for downloading the netbook version?  I've been looking around the ubuntu site and for some reason I'm missing it.
[20:08] <Max00355> are there any php irc channels?
[20:08] <devish> ~pastebin
[20:08] <Gentoo64> bsmith093: googl image upload
[20:08] <Zeike> fritsch: its ok.  Yeah, well I run mpd as my local user, so I have to chown -R brandon:audio /var/run/mpd
[20:08] <brontosaurusrex> CaptWho, there isnt one afaik
[20:08] <Andrew131> VCoolio, ?
[20:08] <devish> !pastebin
[20:08] <fritsch> Zeike: ah then your problem ist just in mpd conf
[20:08] <CaptWho> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:08] <eadric> Hello,
[20:08] <fritsch> Zeike: just add hier, that mpd is run with your user
[20:08] <fritsch> Zeike: so the init script will do the right thing
[20:08] <CaptWho> the site says there is, just can't locate it
[20:08] <Fallballa> hello there
[20:09] <lauratika> anyone please?
[20:09] <eadric> I 'm having an install issue
[20:09] <Zeike> fritsch: no, mpd.conf has the correct user set.  But each boot /var/run/mpd is set to mpd:audio
[20:09] <Max00355> what do you need?
[20:09] <fritsch> Zeike: in /etc/mpd.conf there is user variable
[20:09] <VCoolio> Andrew131: ah, I wrote something but forgot to address you, two lines above my ^^
[20:09] <fritsch> Zeike: change it to "your username"
[20:09] <fritsch> Zeike: per default it is owned by mpd user
[20:09] <giraffa1975> ciao
[20:09] <Andrew131> ahh
[20:09] <CaptWho> or am i reading that you can just install the netbook version off the standard ISO image?\
[20:10] <fritsch> Zeike: btw. why are you running it with your rights?
[20:10] <Andrew131> VCoolio, should I report it as a bug?
[20:10] <bsmith093> heres my desktop does gnome 3 change this much/ http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2424/194236195415893377061318882153sLwenZBNRC7xs72eS9ib.PNG
[20:10] <lauratika> please
[20:10] <brontosaurusrex> CaptWho, yes, there is no separate version
[20:10] <eadric> anyone know how to solve not finding a harddisk in the installer which the rest of the liveCD can find
[20:10] <Zeike> fritsch: the variable in mpd.conf is set to my username.  I'm running it with my rights because that's the only way to get it to play nice with pulseaudio.
[20:10] <Andrew131> I just upgraded and now its all slow as garbage because its using up all my ram and slowly eating up my swap
[20:10] <VCoolio> Andrew131: I don't know, if you think it's not your fault and zeitgeist-daemon is to blame, yes
[20:11] <fritsch> Zeike: oh i see
[20:11] <Andrew131> Yea def. everything was perfect until I upgraded to 11.10
[20:11] <Fallballa> Just a short question: made a fresh installation of oneiric and installed fglrx-driver (using hd6950). fglrxinfo gives the correct output, but systeminformation still shows vesa in use...is that normal?
[20:11] <fritsch> Zeike: you could use the hack in /etc/rc.local then
[20:11] <user__> I agree andrew131.
[20:11] <Zeike> fritsch: I guess that's what I'll have to do, thanks
[20:11] <fritsch> Zeike: mkdir -p /var/run/mpd ; chown youruser:yourgroup -R /var/run/mpd
[20:11] <Andrew131> ;)
[20:12] <Andrew131> still love ubuntu though
[20:12] <slydawg> With the Unity, is there anyway to add stuff to the top panel?
[20:12] <user__> looks like ubuntu is in bed with mac
[20:12] <subr00t_> what this folder is for ~/.cache/checkbox??? its 19 Gb on my box, and keep getting bigger :s
[20:12] <Gentoo64> subr00t_, delete it
[20:12] <user__> its like windows and mac slept together and made 11.10
[20:13] <Gentoo64> user__, 11.04 was the same basically
[20:13] <subr00t_> Gentoo64, what make it that big?
[20:13] <fdsa> how do i set list view as default?
[20:13] <Gentoo64> subr00t_, idk what it is
[20:13] <user__> but at least I could roll back to the best
[20:13] <Gentoo64> fdsa, in nautilus opitons
[20:13] <Randolph> hi all
[20:13] <meerkats> can anyone tell me how to recover a password stored in thunderbird?
[20:14] <fdsa> where is that at?
[20:14] <Gentoo64> user__, whats that?
[20:14] <Gentoo64> fdsa, top menu preferences i think
[20:14] <user__> not sure what its called but I liked it
[20:14] <user__> lol
[20:14] <biagidp> Anyone know of a way to register Pidgin with the Unity social notification widget?
[20:14] <user__> the old look. you know what im talking about gentoo64
[20:14] <hatchetjack> can I not add a weather applet in unity?
[20:14] <fdsa> im using unity.. i cant find it
[20:15] <Gentoo64> user__, yea.. 10.10 was the last one to have that by default
[20:15] <Gentoo64> fdsa, i think it hides the menu, try hovering over the top bar
[20:15] <juniour> hey i am running ubuntu in virtual box,i wann it to run in full screen how to do that?
[20:15] <Randolph> I wanted to know if there is a solution to delete the watermark "AMD Unsupported Hardware" with Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[20:15] <user__> yeah I loved it. was like a real desktop environment gentoo64
[20:15] <Gentoo64> juniour, install guest additions and view>fullscreen
[20:15] <slydawg> biagidp, go to Edit --> Preferences --> security --> passwords
[20:15] <biagidp> juniour: you need to install the guest additions
[20:15] <juniour> k
[20:15] <fritsch> Randolph: yes there is - a hacky own. The non hacking method ist to install a fglrx version which supports your hardware
[20:16] <vivid> is anyone able to get system tray items to show with unity 2d?
[20:16] <Gentoo64> juniour, guest addidiotns are also in additional drivers
[20:16] <slydawg> @biagidp, then click saved passwords
[20:16] <fritsch> Randolph: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI_Catalyst
[20:16] <biagidp> slydawg: Edit in what menu?
[20:16] <juniour> thanks gentoo64 and biagidp
[20:16] <fritsch> Randolph: look at the section where is: Remove this Watermark - at your own(!) risk
[20:16] <biagidp> juniour: np
[20:16] <Randolph> @Fritsch : oki doki
[20:17] <m`> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11344936 I don't understand how to use nspluginwrapper. Do I just install it? flash not working yet...
[20:17] <juniour> hey i am installing the gest addition
[20:17] <usr13> blahsphemer: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-25-386
[20:17] <juniour> .......
[20:17] <slydawg> sorry, wrong user
[20:17] <Gentoo64> juniour, do that then reboot and check fullscreen
[20:17] <juniour> k
[20:17] <slydawg> @meerkats
[20:17] <biagidp> slydawg: haha, I thought I was getting trolled. Was working out a clever counter-troll :-P
[20:17] <Andrew131> Bug report filed
[20:17] <user__> does anyone know if there is a way put the taskbar back on this dang thing? and how about the thing that used to be at the top. takes a long time going through all the steps to find the applications I want.
[20:17] <blahsphemer> usr13, thanks.
[20:17] <Randolph> @fritschI : will try it later because I am away from my work computer
[20:17] <Andrew131> hope it gets fixed soon so I can upgrade my laptop
[20:18] <meerkats> slydawg, what?
[20:18] <Triscar0> i have mad a folder in /var/www/ but dont have permission to add files, what command to use ?
[20:18] <Randolph> @fritsch: it' a laptop dell M4600
[20:18] <slydawg> meerkats, go to Edit --> Preferences
[20:19] <slydawg> meerkat, then go to Security and click on the Passwords tab
[20:19] <usr13> blahsphemer:   Or:  sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-25-generic
[20:19] <rhizmoe> is there anything i can do to raise windows/viewports from an indicator rather than just having the icon wiggle in the dock/dash?
[20:19] <slydawg> meerkat, then click saved passwords and there should be a "show passwords" option
[20:19] <blahsphemer> usr13, oh okay./
[20:19] <usr13> blahsphemer: apt-cache search 2.6.32-25
[20:19] <usr13> blahsphemer: Probably just do the generic one
[20:20] <meerkats> many thanks slydawg you saved my day
[20:20] <rhizmoe> for instance, new mail indicator, click on 'inbox' or whatever from the indicator, thunderbird icon starts wiggling. why not just go to thunderbird?
[20:20] <blahsphemer> usr13, alright.
[20:20] <slydawg> meerkats, no worries
[20:20] <brontosaurusrex> Triscar0, chown user:user /var/www/myfolder
[20:20] <slydawg> biagidp, if you find out how to do that with pidgin let me know
[20:20] <erkan^> I cannot found --> Java Sun inplugin
[20:20] <brontosaurusrex> Triscar0, sudo chown user:user /var/www/myfolder
[20:21] <erkan^> *plugin
[20:21] <Caspase3> What does loading a wireless module with sudo modprobe [module] nohwcrypt=1 do?
[20:21] <usr13> erkan^: should already be there.
[20:21] <Triscar0> thnx brontosaurusrex
[20:21] <erkan^> no
[20:21] <Gentoo64> Caspase3, no idea. either disable encryption or use software accel i guess
[20:21] <erkan^> i cannot found in synpatics, usr13
[20:22] <slydawg> So does anyone know how to add to the top panel in unity?  I think it is a huge waste of space as it sits
[20:22] <DaveD0101> Hello all.  After the recent update, dragging an open window around the desktop is real slow choppy.  Is there some way to correct that?
[20:22] <erkan^> i use 11.10
[20:22] <juniour> gentoo64 it worked
[20:22] <juniour> thanks
[20:22] <brontosaurusrex> Triscar0, basically you have to keep in mind that the server is then another user as well and it may have limited access to "your" files
[20:22] <Gentoo64> juniour, cool
[20:22] <slydawg> used to I could right-click and "add to panel" but not in Unity
[20:22] <juniour> yup........
[20:23] <Gentoo64> juniour, if you maximise the window rather than fullscreen, or change the window size it should adjust the res also
[20:23] <Gentoo64> i prefer it maximised than fullscreen so i can minimize it easily
[20:23] <banished> Hi, I've just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10, but now my screen doesn't redraw properly anymore anymore (only when I move a window) - there is no difference wheather I use Unity 2D or not (nvidia)
[20:23] <alexxio> how to remove the whole openoffice by the terminal command?
[20:23] <vivid> does anyone know how to get system tray items in unity 2d?
[20:23] <juniour> gentoo64 k
[20:24] <Gentoo64> alexxio, apt-get purge openoffice i think
[20:24] <alexxio> tnx
[20:24] <Trashi> hi guys. if i shutdown my ubuntu 11.10 with the help of the unity enviroment it needs 2minutes until all applications are killed and system get down really. i think there are apps which cannot get down or so far. how is it possible to reduce that timeout frame?
[20:24] <ChesterX> alexxio: sudo apt-get remove openoffice*.*
[20:24] <alexxio> ok
[20:24] <alexxio> oh i have an important question
[20:24] <usr13> erkan^: apt-cache search sun-java
[20:24] <erkan^> ok i go search
[20:25] <alexxio> have you ever heard about streamer (webcam capture command from shell), it doesnt work
[20:25] <diskinetic> maximized firefox hides unity dock, won't reappear on left edge hover... that's a bug, right?
[20:25] <fester-> Do you know some terminal emulation 3270 Console for Ubuntu ?
[20:25] <Gentoo64> diskinetic, yes if youve closed ff or minimised it etc
[20:25] <slydawg> alexxio, apt-get autoremove openoffice.org
[20:26] <alexxio> streamer -c /dev/video0 -b 16 -o outfile.jpeg
[20:26] <alexxio> files / video: JPEG (JFIF) / audio: none
[20:26] <alexxio> no way to get: 320x240 JPEG (JFIF)
[20:26] <alexxio> movie writer initialisation failed
[20:26] <FloodBot1> alexxio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <juniour> gentoo64 you know how to share folder of host for guest
[20:26] <alexxio> sorry for flood
[20:26] <alexxio> that's the error i get
[20:26] <alexxio> i can't come out of this
[20:26] <Gentoo64> juniour, in vbox options theres shared folders
[20:26] <erkan^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/711306/ --> they have not plugin for mozilla, usr13
[20:26] <juniour> gentoo i am doing it not workin
[20:26] <juniour> i also go for mounting
[20:26] <Gentoo64> juniour, i cant help tbh i havent used shared folders in years
[20:27] <juniour> k
[20:27] <DaveD0101> Anyone have any thoughts on why dragging a window around would drag real bad?
[20:27] <Gentoo64> juniour, try joining #vbox or googling virtualbox shared folders
[20:27] <brontosaurusrex> alexxio, what are you trying to do?
[20:27] <Gentoo64> Dave123, prob the vid drivers
[20:27] <Gentoo64> Dave123, worked smooth as silk in vbox for me
[20:28] <juniour> k
[20:28] <doguito1> hello,  which tool is the best for network management under LXDE?=
[20:28] <DaveD0101> Gentoo64, I'll take a look, maybe it killed the old "restricted" ones
[20:28] <juniour> i know some common line method
[20:28] <juniour> it used to work
[20:28] <Gentoo64> Dave123, try uninstalling the restricted ones then reinstalling maybe... worth a try
[20:28] <juniour> but i dont know why it not workin
[20:28] <juniour> today
[20:29] <alexxio> @brontosaurusrex: trying to capture a webcam image from remote shell
[20:29] <alexxio> i used to use streamer, it was running fine, then at a sudden moment it don't work..
[20:29]  * Whowhatwhenwhere laughs @ _-XPERT-_
[20:29] <DaveD0101> Gentoo64, Will do.  Though now the "dash" thing won't come up.  Brb.. and thanks.
[20:30] <brontosaurusrex> alexxio, tryed anything else, mplayer maybe? ffmpeg?
[20:30] <Nova685> in ubuntu 11.04 nautilus used to show the remaining hard drive space in the bottom of the window when you were browsing, in ubuntu 11.10 it doesnt can anyone tell me how to make it show that information?
[20:31] <biagidp> slydawg: haha, I thought I was getting trolled. Was working out a clever counter-troll :-P
[20:31] <biagidp> slydawg: oops, fat finger, sorry
[20:31] <biagidp> Anyone know of a way to register Pidgin with the Unity social notification widget?
[20:31] <alexxio> @brontosaurusrex: actually streamer was the best one because with an only line i could save the image, and mplayer and ffmpeg requires X running if i remember correctly
[20:32] <brontosaurusrex> oh yeah, that might be so
[20:32] <Randolph> @fritsch: cross my fingers
[20:32] <Trashi> hi guys. if i shutdown my ubuntu 11.10 with the help of the unity enviroment it needs 2minutes until all applications are killed and system get down really. i think there are apps which cannot get down or so far. how is it possible to reduce that timeout frame?
[20:33] <magikgimp> Ha! My box shuts down in 0.3 seconds... and Firefox has to go into recovery mode on every reboot...
[20:33] <Randolph> @fritsch: do not work :(
[20:33] <brontosaurusrex> btw, you can do it with oneliner with mplayer as well - copy paste : mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:device=/dev/video0:width=320:height=240:outfmt=rgb24 -frames 1 -vo jpeg
[20:33] <fritsch> Randolph: you rebooted?
[20:33] <brontosaurusrex> alexxio
[20:34] <Randolph> yes
[20:34] <juniour> gentoo64 its done
[20:34] <fritsch> Randolph: okay, what version of catalyst are you running on which hardware?
[20:34] <Randolph> @fritsch: provide by the last ubuntu
[20:34] <Randolph> @fritsch: 11.10
[20:35] <alexxio> @brontosaurusrex: i used your command, where did he save the file?
[20:35] <fritsch> Randolph: what hardware do you have?
[20:35] <SunTsu> Damn, recreating initramfs didn't help with my system trying to mount the wrong lvm volume as root fs. kernel gets passed the right root variablem, still my box tries to mount the wrong one
[20:35] <brontosaurusrex> alexxio, to pwd i guess
[20:35] <mongy> Anyone know how to get decent window decoration with compiz in xubuntu, emerald is no longer in the repo
[20:36] <SunTsu> My root volume is /dev/mapper/system-root, cryptroot tries to mount /dev/mapper/system - system of course is the name of the volume group...
[20:36] <fritsch> Randolph: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/858581 <- 6650M?
[20:36] <Randolph> @fritsch: i try something, there are 2 emplacements for fglrx_drv.so
[20:36] <SunTsu> any idea how to debug that?
[20:36] <fritsch> Randolph: there should be only one
[20:36] <juniour> mongy sudo apt-get install compiz
[20:37] <zamba> i can't believe how canonical have fscked up the latest version of ubuntu.. totally unbelievable.. heads must roll
[20:37] <Randolph> @fritsch: locate fglrx_drv.so
[20:37] <mongy> juniour: compiz isnt the issue, setting a nice window theme is, and I cant since emerald no longer exists in the repos
[20:37] <zamba> universial access is impossible to remove from the panel
[20:38] <Randolph> @fritsch: return 2 places
[20:39] <Randolph> @fritsch: cool
[20:39] <zamba> and what about applications that's already running.. where do they go?
[20:39] <Randolph> @fritsch: my modification rules
[20:39] <juniour> mongy which version of xubuntu are you using
[20:39] <fritsch> Randolph: so it is working?
[20:39] <mongy> juniour: 11.10
[20:39] <Randolph> @fritsch: need to replace DRIVER=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[20:39] <floriana> ciao a tutti
[20:40] <rhizmoe> i never get sick of flash crashing in chrome
[20:40] <Zeike> Changes I make in CCSM are not saved across sessions.  Anybody know a fix?
[20:40] <Randolph> @fritsch: by DRIVER=/usr/lib/fglrx/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[20:41] <Randolph> @fritsch: so yes it is working
[20:41] <Whowhatwhenwhere> !it | floriana
[20:41] <Randolph> @fritsch: great thank for the link
[20:41] <juniour> mongy have you install emerald
[20:41] <Whowhatwhenwhere> Hi floriana.
[20:42] <mongy> juniour: its not in the repo
[20:42] <juniour> k
[20:42] <crooks306> Has anyone calibrated their screen with a spyder in linux?
[20:42] <mrsun> omg, i think ubuntu is getting slower and slower for every freakin release....
[20:42] <sulumar> hi all
[20:43] <mrsun> and where the heck is all the settings
[20:43] <Whowhatwhenwhere> mrsun: Then use Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[20:43] <sulumar> i have some issues with the launcher
[20:43] <Martijnvdc> hello, i don't know if this is the right place to ask, but i have a question about the 'read' command: can i set a maximum amount of characters? where typing more than the maximum would not echo the last character?
[20:43] <Whowhatwhenwhere> Or wait until Unity/gnome3 gets better.
[20:43] <Eyes_> hey, i just did a distrobution upgrade to 11.10, and now the computer is rufusing to boot on the new 3.0 kernel. anyone willin to help me out on the matter?
[20:43] <sulumar> when i put my curser on the side it wont show up
[20:43] <juniour> mongy i thin it has been removed from repo
[20:43] <racho> gnome3 is getting better...can't say the same for unity though (personal opinion)
[20:44] <mongy> juniour: yes, I know.  I
[20:44] <mongy> juniour: I'd like to know if there is another way
[20:44] <juniour> mongy wait i am googling for it
[20:45] <yashy> Following the soundtroubleshooting guide, everything looks good except aplay simply won't play anything? http://pastebin.com/9uEKyuu4
[20:45] <juniour> if i will get i will tell you
[20:45] <Eyes_> hey, i just did a distrobution upgrade to 11.10, and now the computer is rufusing to boot on the new 3.0 kernel. anyone willin to help me out on the matter?
[20:45] <mrsun> and where is synaptics ?
[20:45] <mrsun> and everything else
[20:46] <jakbri> hi all. I Am using nvidias closed source binary drivers and I am having trouble getting the unity to work - the unity 2d works fine, but when I log in with the accelerated desktop I get no UI - the background shows, the top bar shows (with nothing in it). The mouse cursor does show, and sometimes when I move it around it turns into a "I" indicating there is a text box below it. Is this a know issue?
[20:47] <droid1110> Eyes, i've the same problem, create another user and copy across your files.
[20:47] <yashy> updated pastebin showing what is working with sound, and what is not http://pastebin.com/2pqGnPr4
[20:47] <droid1110> Im going to have to rebuild, I cant mount ext HDD's with the new user
[20:50] <jforjackjohnson> can't go in ot. have i got a life ban
[20:50] <jforjackjohnson> also OFTC#debian have banned me for life.
[20:52] <auronandace> !guidelines | jforjackjohnson
[20:52] <organiks> how is oneric for netbooks?
[20:53] <jforjackjohnson> I'd just like to know, is this a life ban? Because you will get me into a c22 my winding me up so much I'll get banned from here, too,.
[20:53] <Myrtti> welcome to discuss it in #ubuntu-ops
[20:53] <jforjackjohnson> banned
[20:53] <jforjackjohnson> not, soz
[20:54] <chad__> How can I disable my Elantech touch pad. I've since forgotten after a new install.
[20:56] <gwb> When I run update manager, while installing updates, it pauses.  If I open Details, I can see that it looks like the output from the less command.  I have to enter q to get the updates to actually install.  (It does the same from the CLI).  How can I stop update Manager from stopping at that point and waiting for me?
[20:57] <ejv> gwb: use apt-get in conjunction with the --assume-yes option
[20:58] <gwb> ejv: how does that help the Update Manager GUI?  Is there a setting like that for the GUI ?
[20:58] <polecat> I've been getting a "Serious errors have been found while mounting drive /, /cryo, and /angus (my 3 different physical drives) at startup.  I've never had this problem before and the fact that it gives me all three of them all of a sudden is scary!  It says it every time I boot now, though I have no performance loss or data corruption.  fsck is the way to check the drive for errors, correct?
[20:58] <ejv> there's also --force-yes too
[20:58] <ejv> the GUI is inferior, use the command line
[20:59] <maxtmahem> Okay, after fixing my bajorked GRUB, I'm into the latest. However, on a normal boot I hang at "checking battery state" however, if I go in from Recover console-continue boot, I boot up fine. Thoughts?
[20:59] <gwb> ejv: I might agree with you, but I still gotta wonder what is causing this.  At the CLI, I don't mind the prompt, since it makes me read the log
[21:00] <magikgimp> Can I add myself to the help queue please?
[21:00] <ejv> magikgimp: huh?
[21:00] <boig01> Just installed 11.10 on my PC (nVidia 7600) and after 1st reboot, got nVidia proprietary installed.  I just got 640x480 and ran apt-get install nvidia-latest (or something like that), now i have only black screen (D-Sub no signal).  Can't get to console (CTRL-ALT-F1), totally stuck!
[21:01] <magikgimp> Can I ask a question next?
[21:01] <thiebaude> just ask a question if you have one, magikgimp
[21:01] <ejv> magikgimp: ask and people will randomly chime in *if* they can help you, there is no help queue
[21:01] <x3r91x> hi
[21:02] <aemadrid> having problems with an upgrade from maverick to natty on one server
[21:02] <aemadrid> sshd is no longer working
[21:02] <yashy> magik: Just ask your question...
[21:02] <aemadrid> shift: 28: can't shift that many
[21:02] <x3r91x> i just install ubuntu in a triboot hardrive and know i can start the other os
[21:02] <aemadrid> what in the world is going on?
[21:02] <RedWar> What is the issue magikgimp?
[21:02] <yashy> updated pastebin showing what is working with sound, and what is not; any other suggestions to help me get sound working on 11.10? http://pastebin.com/2pqGnPr4
[21:02] <x3r91x> i have slackware ubuntu y win7
[21:03] <Bragex9> I have got major problems after upgrading to 11.10 the system will not let me log in. When I use my password the screen turns black for secpnd and then I am returned to login again. When using CTRL-ALT-F1 I am able to login. What can I do?
[21:03] <x3r91x> only ubuntu y win7 works well
[21:03] <jiltdil> x3r91x: R u on ubuntu
[21:03] <x3r91x> yes
[21:03] <eNepper> Hi how do I connect a bluetooth keyboard to my ubuntu box? (no x on the box) I'll like it to reconnet when the box is powerd up with out puting in any pin code or any thing
[21:03] <jiltdil> x3r91x: update grub, you will find all optioin
[21:03] <Active> lu
[21:03] <x3r91x> just update-grub?
[21:04] <maxtmahem> hrm... looks like a problem w/ lightdm hrm...
[21:05] <maxtmahem> Ah.. the upgrade didn't install the greeter, that is fail.
[21:05] <magikgimp> OK, I'll fire away. Each time I reboot my router and restart my computer DHCP doesn't allocate a local IP to Ubuntu (it does in Windows). I have to delete the ethernet profile and click Auto Ethernet again to get a connection
[21:05] <x3r91x> its find it like before no changes in the grub
[21:06] <x3r91x> anyway its finding an other ubuntu install maybe residual from before
[21:06] <x3r91x> i just upgrade from 11.4
[21:06] <xp_prg> I upgraded to ubuntu 11 and now I don't know how to graphically mount a windows share, can anyone tell me please?
[21:06] <jen__> is oneiric ocelot worth the update or no?
[21:06] <RedWar> what version of Ubuntu do you have magikgimp?
[21:06] <x3r91x> how can i clean up grub?
[21:07] <thethh> hello. brasero says its missing this quicktime demuxer plugin. how do i install it?
[21:07] <magikgimp> Latest, 11.10, all updates
[21:07] <thiebaude> jen__ for me it was
[21:07] <cordoval> hi any one using suphp, just upgraded to latest ubuntu and my setup stops working
[21:07] <cordoval> any thought s
[21:07] <thiebaude> im using fallback gnome
[21:07] <jen__> ahhh whats the command for the update?
[21:07] <jen__> sudo apt get update?
[21:07] <xwarman> Hi. can someone tell me, how to use the desktop-magnifier in unity? Settings in disabilityaccess seem not to work. thanks.
[21:07] <Drak> yes
[21:07] <intEx> Hey everybody. I have some questions about Gnome Shell. Is there a channel for Shell support?
[21:08] <cordoval> using the latest update, is ubuntu handling permissions somewhat diferently?
[21:08] <Drak> jen__, sudo apt-get update
[21:08] <Drak> jen__, sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[21:08] <jiltdil> x3r91x: restart your system and se all the OS , also  it was not another ubuntu i think it was just the other kernel
[21:08] <RedWar> hmm...
[21:09] <x3r91x> ok thanks ill try
[21:09] <jen__> Drak, second command wont work
[21:09] <RedWar> !router
[21:09] <RedWar> Doh
[21:09] <Drak> jen__, sorry, try sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:10] <RedWar> magikgimp.  have you checked your network interfaces edit file?
[21:10] <jen__> Drak, that one worked yes
[21:10] <Drak> jen__, :D
[21:10] <boig01> How to fall back to generic graphic drivers in Ubuntu 11.10 ?  I have black screen and can't even get to the console!
[21:10] <boig01> (just booted in live CD)
[21:10] <hatchetjack> indicator-weather shows wrong sunrise/sunset.
[21:10] <jen__> Drak, thanks G
[21:11] <jiltdil> x3r91x: the command is    sudo update-grub
[21:11] <magikgimp> What's the point? I have to delete the old profile and make a new one to get it working; I mean I'm sure there's another way but that works.
[21:11] <magikgimp> Is that what you meant?
[21:11] <xwarman> Can someone tell me, how to use the desktop-magnifier in unity? Settings in disabilityaccess seem not to work. thanks.
[21:12] <RedWar> magikgimp yes. you did an upgrade, not an install. I am having some simimlar issues but with dsiplay and sound properties
[21:12] <RedWar> I am assuming its an upgrade btw magikgimp so.. if its an install, different situation.
[21:12] <RedWar> But both require a fresh install or... editing of profiles  first
[21:12]  * RedWar feels for magikgimp
[21:12] <magikgimp> It's a fresh install, main ISO from the main page on the website
[21:13] <phiscibe> just  a WORD to the wise or at least those with bugs...this is crazy CRAZY its seems that recently a move has been to move start up dameons out of init.d  and use Upstart jobs instead, so nothing starts dbus or ibus or practlicaly any sevice correclty anymore
[21:13] <phiscibe> broken isnt the word
[21:13] <RedWar> I ll be doing this that work tonight, just make sure you back up everything, you know the deal.
[21:13] <polecat> I've been getting a "Serious errors have been found while mounting drive /, /cryo, and /angus (my 3 different physical drives) at startup.  I've never had this problem before and the fact that it gives me all three of them all of a sudden is scary!  It says it every time I boot now, though I have no performance loss or data corruption.  fsck is the way to check the drive for errors like this, correct?
[21:14] <RedWar> Yeah... so thats looking like manual edit on profiles.
[21:14] <van> qual o endereço do canal brasileiro?
[21:14] <magikgimp> I installed ddclient to send my IP to OpenDNS if that's any help but I've stopped it launching at startup with chkconfig now with no change
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> !pt| van
[21:15] <van> obrigado
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> fas favor
[21:15] <magikgimp> Clever bot
[21:16] <RedWar> !es | RedWar
[21:16] <RedWar> Well.. hmm...  must be spanish
[21:17] <zmbmartin> anyone know when you transfer a domain from one registrar to another does the dns info transfer as well?
[21:17] <magikgimp> Are you guys saying this is a bug that hasn't been squashed yet? If so, is there a way of asking the router for an IP like you can in Windows (repair connection)? I need to keep custom DNS settings you see
[21:17] <RedWar> Thanks bottu lol
[21:17] <RedWar> ubottu
[21:17] <shantorn> i have 11.10 and have installed nvidia driver 173 per recomendation, can anyone tell me or show me how to set up my flat screen on the vga port at a resolution higher than 800x600, i believe i need to manualy edit something to do it but havent the slightest clue where to look
[21:18] <shantorn> i have dual monitors
[21:18] <magikgimp> Classic old problem shantorn from what I've read. Are you sure you needed to install a driver?
[21:18] <henchman24> twinview
[21:19] <magikgimp> Installing drivers for my fairly old card has resulted in two fresh installs
[21:19] <henchman24> xorg.conf
[21:19] <magikgimp> (as in it f**ked everything up and I had to start again)
[21:19] <jiltdil> Hi how to fix cheese , it is giving bad pic quality
[21:19] <charminthemoose> Hey all, where does ubuntu 11.04 keep the xorg.conf file for default installs or does it probe the hardware everytime?
[21:19] <magikgimp> Isn't xorg.conf redundant now?
[21:20] <magikgimp> Wasn't that the point?
[21:20] <sir_tyrion> How to launch network connections from the command line?
[21:20] <brad_> wazzubrad
[21:20] <organiks> how is oneric for netbooks?
[21:20] <henchman24> NetworkManager
[21:20] <jforjackjohnson> charminthemoose, both kinda. You can create an Xorg.conf then modify it, but me no clue.
[21:20] <henchman24> ?
[21:21] <sir_tyrion> omg why is NetworkManger capitalized
[21:21] <aemadrid> can't get sshd to start
[21:21] <aemadrid> on natty
[21:21] <RedWar> xorg can still be used, if necessary.. but its mostly empty magikgimp
[21:21] <henchman24> (im using debian so... i could be wrong but i believe they are quite similar
[21:21] <aemadrid> anybody can help me debug?
[21:21] <magikgimp> brb
[21:21] <sir_tyrion> henchman24, i want to run the 'network connections' gnome app from 'system->preferences' from the command line
[21:21] <twilight0> anyone here using ubuntuone?
[21:21] <willem> quit
[21:21] <RedWar> charminthemoose, I asked that question eralier, but I think the whole set up has been to try to phase our xrog charminthemoose
[21:21] <RedWar> xorg
[21:21] <jen__> so after I did the commands for updating the ocelot thing popped up, do I update from there?
[21:21] <willem> #quit
[21:22] <henchman24> yeah the gnome-panel thing is "NetworkManager
[21:22] <boig01> found /etc/X11/xorg.conf in 11.10 but there is almost nothing in it... I'm stock with black screen with nVidia drivers...
[21:22] <y0shi> buenas tardes
[21:22] <mfaroukg> can I have cube in my ubuntu 11.10? what is the easiest way?
[21:22] <twilight0> y0shi: hi in other words
[21:22] <y0shi> como paso ubuntu a ubuntu studio
[21:22] <y0shi> ?
[21:22] <sir_tyrion> nm-connection-editor is the command btw
[21:22] <wobblyonions> anyone here running the new version of Ubuntu
[21:23] <boig01> I'm trying to find a way to remove nVidia drivers and use generic...
[21:23] <wobblyonions> need to see how to move the taskbar from the left to the top of the screen
[21:23] <djjonex> y0shi : que quieres hacer?
[21:23] <jforjackjohnson> How do you tell someone this is not the correct lang chan for them?
[21:23] <boig01> Anybody knows how to do it?
[21:23] <henchman24> boig01: sounds right (left at autoprobe) you'd have to do X -configure (creates an autoprobed in ~/.xorg.conf or somethin
[21:23] <polecat> mfaroukg, install compizconfig manager from the software center and you can enable it from there
[21:23] <Guest82401> my empathy keeps segfaulting after I tried to switch to a different them, anyone know where I can edit the prefs file manually?
[21:23] <jforjackjohnson> !es | y0shi
[21:23] <marpo> hi
[21:23] <racho> boig01, can you boot into ubuntu?
[21:23] <henchman24> so you can edit it
[21:24] <mfaroukg>  polecat, thanks
[21:24] <boig01> racho: i can only boot with live CD, the installed version on hard disk get stuck with black screen...
[21:24] <jen__> what does it mean when third party is disabled?????
[21:25] <ilyekkakai> Help!! I upgraded my laptop to 11.04 and got a dead desktop (a mouse pointer and desktop background but no icons and no menu bar at top). I Ctrl+Alt+F1 to the terminal and upgraded to 11.10... got the same problem. blank desktop. icons never load. menu never loads. How do I fix?
[21:25] <charminthemoose> Actually, to just make My problem more, direct, I can't seem to load up window managers via gdm, and turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo.
[21:25] <jen__> ilyekkakai, is this after you restarted your computer?
[21:25] <charminthemoose> function + up combo increases it.. but I can't decrease it :P
[21:26] <ilyekkakai> jen__, yes. rebooted several times. same result. dead desktop
[21:26] <tjpoe> my empathy keeps segfaulting every time open it up, after I tried to switch to a different them, anyone know where I can edit the prefs file manually?
[21:26] <jen__> ilyekkakai, because when it updates it tends to do that right before its going to shut down
[21:26] <boig01> henchman24: Dunno if i can run that from Live CD and copy some files to the hard disk after...
[21:26] <Bragex9> ilyekkakai: I have the same problem...
[21:26] <jen__> ilyekkakai, try to update?
[21:26] <ilyekkakai> jen__, how?
[21:26] <Lantchips> A question a friend of mine is getting this error on boot http://pastebin.com/8xhjeZCw what does it mean ?
[21:26] <jen__> ilyekkakai, alt ctl T is for a terminal
[21:26] <mfaroukg> can I have docky with unitty ?
[21:26] <magikgimp> I had the blank desktop after installing drivers for my graphics card
[21:27] <magikgimp> Unity is a dock, lol
[21:27] <ilyekkakai> jen__, what do I do at the terminal?
[21:27] <fdsa> is there any way for a unity search to be in list view?
[21:27] <charminthemoose> I can't seem to load up window managers via gdm, and turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo. Function + up works fine.
[21:27] <jen__> ilyekkakai, try sudo apt-get update
[21:27] <racho> boig01, boot from hdd and in the grub menu edit the lines "splash quiet etc" ot "nosplash nomodeset" then boot
[21:27] <brge> Hi guys. What channel do I join to ask for help?
[21:28] <mfaroukg>  magikgimp, docky was with classic now unity is confusing
[21:28] <fdsa> also, can i add directories for unity to search? cuz its not listing the files im looking for
[21:28] <jen__> ilyekkakai, then try sudo apt-get uprade
[21:28] <jforjackjohnson> I need to have a word with Myrtti. He just closed my IRC client remotely. He keeps doign that till he's content. So do other admins.
[21:28] <mfaroukg> no adobe reader in the ubuntu 11.10?
[21:28] <magikgimp> Unity is a dock with a launcher technically.
[21:28] <gau> did some googling and want to make sure, I have to work on a site that will only render in ie 6-8 my only options are wine and some type of virtual box? tried the winetricks ie7 and it didnt work for it, also has to have a specific version of java or so they say. anyway any other leads or are they basically my 2 choices?
[21:28] <racho> boig01, this should bring you in ubuntu in safe graphics mode and from then either uninstall the drivers or download the latest ones
[21:28] <Bragex9> jen__> ilyekkakai: I have tried all that. Does not work. Here is a description of the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859373
[21:29] <Jenny87> Hi there! I just put the newest ubuntu on my macbook pro but I can't seem to change the brightness
[21:29] <bindi> jforjackjohnson: how do you know?
[21:29] <Jenny87> it's like the "FN" key isn't working :( can anyone help?
[21:29] <jen__> Bragex9, ilyekkakai  Im updating right now and hoping I have no problems.
[21:30] <ilyekkakai> jen__, apparently I can't even get to the terminal anymore. The whole system freezes (mouse pointer locks) as soon as the desktop background loads.
[21:30] <jforjackjohnson> Because I experienced it first hand bindi. He closed my IRC teletype application right in front of my eyes.
[21:30] <bindi> i bet
[21:30] <djjonex> need to install xampp dik how to
[21:30] <boig01> Racho: thanks, will try it right now!
[21:30] <fffuu> hello I need some help burning an dvd-r
[21:30] <mfaroukg> please tell me if there adobe reader in the ubuntu 11.10?
[21:31] <jen__> ilyekkakai, sadly you may have to fresh install if you have a disc
[21:31] <jforjackjohnson> OSRSLY - bindi I witnessed the chanoping of him, then my client closed. He prolly kb'ed me. I refused to agree to a 2 week no argue contract and now they have fallen with me into a catch 22.
[21:31] <charminthemoose> I can't seem to load up window managers via gdm, and turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo. Function + up works fine.
[21:32] <henchman24> not adobe reader but something that reads pdf's just fine
[21:32] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: i think there is. but does it have to be adobe? theres loads of pdf readers
[21:32] <fffuu> why is there so many problems with linux for the novice user?
[21:32] <fffuu> I installed ubuntustudio and this system is so bad..
[21:32] <ilyekkakai> jen__, I am going to try safemode boot in recovery mode from grub menu
[21:32] <Gentoo64> fffuu: whats wrong with it
[21:32] <jen__> ilyekkakai,  okay good luck
[21:32] <fffuu> it seems as if I have to do everything  myself
[21:32] <mfaroukg> some none-english docs don't show the correct fonts but they do in the reader.
[21:32] <racho> fffuu, because my personal opinion is novice linux users should start with linux mint
[21:33] <fffuu> this is the reason why windows and ios is winning
[21:33] <Gentoo64> fffuu: first linux install?
[21:33] <Max00355> ffffuu its because people arent use t Linux. they are use to Windows or Mac which is totaly different
[21:33] <phiscibe> this is the worst mess of bugs ive yet to see in lunix and it spans distro's
[21:33] <henchman24> all in all it helps to have some console experience, if you cant edit/move/copy files in a shell env you'll be screwed
[21:33] <fffuu> I have used linux for some years
[21:33] <jforjackjohnson> And to Myrtti - boring trolls are boring. Want to use that against me? Fine. I'll add it to Slogans Worthy of a Kickban, a soon-to-be-created list of slogans like btab et al.
[21:33] <Max00355> Exactly see? you have experience
[21:33] <fffuu> but 99% of the time I use windows
[21:33] <Gentoo64> fffuu: why you sound surprised then?
[21:33] <Gentoo64> fffuu: what do you have to do yourself in ubuntu?
[21:34] <fffuu> since its so awful to operate if youre not "into" it
[21:34] <blistov> dir /tmp/bob needs to force all files created within' it, to 777.  how do I do this?
[21:34] <ilyekkakai> jen__, I am running sudo apt-get update now...
[21:34] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, henchman24, why I can't find it in the software center?
[21:34] <henchman24> find what
[21:34] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: i think evince is built in use that
[21:34] <fffuu> I like the agenda with linux
[21:34] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: prob need a ppa for adobe reader
[21:34] <boig01> racho: Changed grub parameters to "nosplash nomodeset" and still black screen...
[21:34] <fffuu> but for some reason I cannot install ubuntu perfect
[21:34] <ilyekkakai> jen__, restarting...
[21:34] <jforjackjohnson> debtakeover
[21:35] <Gentoo64> fffuu: your problem is your running back to windows rather than sticking with it
[21:35] <fffuu> when I used wubi on other systems everything was perfect
[21:35] <Max00355> Why can you install it perfect?
[21:35] <fffuu> now it just fails
[21:35] <Max00355> wubi sucks
[21:35] <Gentoo64> fffuu: wubi does fail yes
[21:35] <soothing_psyops> ubuntu 11.10 is running really stable, and very nice after installing and using KDE on my Lenovo Thinkpad X220
[21:35] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, can you share it ? shall I google it?
[21:35] <jforjackjohnson> i hate it when btab is mentioned.
[21:35] <bobbyd_> hi
[21:35] <Max00355> use Unetbootin on a ubuntu machine
[21:35] <phiscibe> kde is i think getting whacked glib-netwokring consolekit too and gio, which busts polkit its its every were
[21:35] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: yea google it i dont know the ppa name if there is one
[21:35] <Max00355> that works everytime for me
[21:35] <Max00355> on a flashdrive
[21:35] <henchman24> pdf-viewer?
[21:35] <jforjackjohnson> nothing is perfect.
[21:35] <Max00355> ehh true
[21:35] <Max00355> but perfect enough
[21:35] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, will share it if found, thanks
[21:35] <ralinux> hi guys why wicd-network works on gnome and not on lxde?
[21:35] <fffuu> I understand linux is a good secure os
[21:35] <josip> O have a funny bug. After uopdating to 11.10, whenever I move my mouse to the lower-right corner of the screen it freezes for a second. (this happens under gnome3, unity, awesomewm and lightdm)
[21:35] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: no one else wnats adobe reader
[21:36] <fffuu> but if the programmers dont focus on making it more "prepared" like ubuntu it will never become standard
[21:36] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: evince, epdfview, zathura etc are all better alternatives
[21:36] <phiscibe> josip: probably a failed dbus duno
[21:36] <racho> boig01, hmm. you sure you removed the default video parameter ??
[21:36] <Bragex9> anyone help....cannot load my profile. Login screen appears, then I enter password for my profile, screen blinks to black and then again to login screen. Although I can start guest session with Unity. Also, restart button doesn't work under login screen. With Ctrl+Alt+F1 I can load my profile in terminal.
[21:36] <henchman24> aptitude search pdf |grep viewer
[21:36] <fffuu> and were stuck paying 100dollars for OS
[21:36] <ilyekkakai> jen__, did not work.. still utterly dead when I log in. Whole system frozen.
[21:37] <josip> phiscibe: it's peristent
[21:37] <boig01> racho: Rebooting, will have a 2nd look...
[21:37] <Max00355> why is everyone talking about these pdf readers? wont open office just do the trick?
[21:37] <josip> phiscibe: any easy fix?
[21:37] <Gentoo64> fffuu: i havent used windows since i was little. ive never been stuck with it
[21:37] <fffuu> and the flash support?
[21:37] <Gentoo64> fffuu: its fine
[21:37] <magikgimp> Linux is too complex due to its design. Windows works because it is designed on the principle of layer upon layer of fixes. Ubuntu at least seems to change every 6 months. My personal experience thus far with it is that there's a lot of promise but if you want more than standard computer use be prepared to tinker for a long time
[21:37] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, let me try those, but I am noticing that adobe is not a linux friend :(
[21:37] <bobbyd_> I upgraded to 11.10 and now I'm get a pop-up window from the calendar asking for a password. I give it my login password, but it just pops up again. It's incredibly annoying.
[21:37] <henchman24> dont think Oo opens pdf's, think it can save to pdf though
[21:37] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: evince should be built in.
[21:37] <racho> boig01, w8
[21:37] <phiscibe> no, its a symphony of errors
[21:37] <Max00355> try 'password' for your password
[21:37] <NoVARaif> Good day all.
[21:37] <racho> boig01, are you there?
[21:38] <fffuu> gentoo64 well youre the linux person
[21:38] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, trying now
[21:38] <fffuu> I would love to go only linnux
[21:38] <jen__> ilyekkakai,  may need some higher help, Im only just a rookie
[21:38] <fffuu> beacuse I see so many programs available
[21:38] <boig01> Yep!
[21:38]  * henchman24 has been linux only for atleast 10years now
[21:38] <fffuu> ubuntus software center is genius
[21:38] <Max00355> well why cant you?
[21:38] <ilyekkakai> Help my whole system is frozen after log in after I upgraded to 11.10. how do I get back to 10.10 without losing my home directory?
[21:38] <Gentoo64> fffuu: not everyone likes it. nothing stopping you using win, but if you spend more time with linux youll understand why its the way it is, and youll probably end up staying with it and realising how bad everything else it
[21:38] <Max00355> im all linux
[21:38] <bobbyd_> Max00355: was that advice for me?
[21:38] <Gentoo64> is*
[21:38] <Max00355> and i have no problem
[21:38] <djjonex> need help with localhost ...aint working
[21:38] <djjonex> loadin
[21:38] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, aha you mean this? this one does good but not with all arabic fonts
[21:39] <jforjackjohnson> fffuu, I think with a lot of tinkering you can lose the deskwin (short for desktop Windows). Maybe needs BSD though.
[21:39] <fffuu> Gentoo64 thats where iam now
[21:39] <jen__> ilyekkakai, im gonna go now, to see if the update will go faster
[21:39] <boig01> racho: Rebooting in live CD...
[21:39] <Bragex9> What are the terminal window command for searching for a specific file?
[21:39] <jen__> ilyekkakai, good lick
[21:39] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, trying the others
[21:39] <Gentoo64> fffuu: what, stuck between the 2?
[21:39] <ilyekkakai> thanks
[21:39] <fffuu> I bought a new HDD (ssd) and installed ubuntu on it
[21:39] <fffuu> now I cannot install windows beacuse I dont have the sata drivers
[21:39] <Max00355> bragex: locate
[21:40] <myk_robinson> Running 11.10. My lenovo laptop has intel graphics, which worked fine in 11.04. When the screen turns off, I can't wake it.. Anyone know of a know bug with this, or a possible fix?
[21:40] <Gentoo64> fffuu: xp? 7 should have them
[21:40] <Max00355> example locate terminal
[21:40] <fffuu> so I decided to stay ubuntu
[21:40] <phiscibe> i like  locate Bragex9 but find is probably more verbose if u get the syntax
[21:40] <Randolph> good night all
[21:40] <Max00355> it will show the directory where terminal is located
[21:40] <Gentoo64> fffuu: with xp youll have to use nlite and build them in
[21:40] <fffuu> the thing is the lap I bought didnt come with a cd only a rec partition
[21:40] <NoVARaif> I have a Dell PowerEdge SC420 here at home that I run Ubuntu on, as I use it mainly for file/print services…  I had some sort of glitch during the 11.10 upgrade where the screen went black, nothing would respond, and my only option was a hard reboot.  The system will boot to the GUI login screen, and any user can log in, however the desktop, 99.8% of the time is just the background.
[21:40] <fffuu> so I have to burn it.. and it doesnt work so im stuck with linux
[21:40] <NoVARaif> I've had my desktop appear once since upgrading this weekend.
[21:41] <Gentoo64> fffuu: just stick with ubuntu. tbh last few versions have been random. its designed for new users but fails so much
[21:41] <fffuu> yes its what I will do
[21:41] <tjpoe> anyone know where the empathy prefs file is? i was testing out themes and now the app crashes every time I try to start it
[21:41] <emdub> anyone familiar with preseeding?  what is the right way to preseed using dhcp but then convert the ip derived from dhcp into a static ip on the machine?
[21:41] <NoVARaif> I've been scouring the 'net trying to get the GUI completely reset, to no avail… any suggestions would be appreciated
[21:41] <fffuu> I dont play games on the computer anymore
[21:41] <Gentoo64> fffuu: so what problems do you get?
[21:41] <fffuu> so I dont need linux
[21:41] <jforjackjohnson> I think Debian is the answer to it. But I have too many IRC ASBOs i.e. Bans.
[21:41] <Max00355> yea i dont like any other distro to be honest Ubuntu is the best but its becoming too much like windows and mac
[21:41] <fffuu> I mean windows..
[21:41] <fffuu> linux meets all my needs nowadays
[21:41]  * conntrack sneezes
[21:41] <Gentoo64> fffuu: so whats the problem then? :S
[21:42] <fffuu> but the movie support is terrible
[21:42] <Gentoo64> fffuu: nah its not. what gpu do you use?
[21:42] <boig01> racho: edited /etc/default/grub (on hard disk) and it had GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nosplash nomodeset"  and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[21:42] <knoppix> ciao
[21:42]  * racho still wonders why most people consider Ubuntu noob-friendly
[21:42] <fffuu> my problems: I know nothing about linux
[21:42] <fffuu> Gentoo I use radeon vision
[21:42] <magikgimp> My problem I'm here for is for networking for Pete's sake but I've had problems with a lot of other things too. Oh and the Software Centre needs a redesign- there need to be a repository database that ensures all software is the latest versions. It's silly having out of date versions on the Canononical repository and then asking users to add more repositories if they want the latest versions. Oh, and I had a problem with hex-keys
[21:42] <magikgimp> after doing that too. It's a real shame, I can't recommend Ubuntu to people yet as much as it should be possible to do everything with it.
[21:42] <Gentoo64> fffuu: it doesnt matter. youll end up needing to do stuff and learning as you go
[21:42] <jforjackjohnson> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras on ubuntu.
[21:42] <iceroot> racho: #gentoo
[21:42] <fffuu> its a new computer running win7 smooth
[21:42] <virusuy> i'm having some issues with unity,  when i start my PC everything goes well, but when i move my mouse to the left side of my screen, unity menu doesnt appears
[21:42] <Gentoo64> fffuu: what are you viewing videos with?
[21:42] <fffuu> so you advice me to use mint?
[21:43] <jforjackjohnson> For those who think Ubuntu is not noob friendly, try Debian.
[21:43] <fffuu> movie player
[21:43] <Gentoo64> fffuu: mint wont be any different
[21:43] <magikgimp> virusuy: press the meta (Windows) key
[21:43] <fffuu> but mostly flash ..
[21:43] <virusuy> magikgimp, that's a workaround
[21:43] <Gentoo64> jforjackjohnson: what are you talking about
[21:43] <magikgimp> It does appear sometimes but not always...
[21:43] <fffuu> Gentoo so wich distro would you rec?
[21:43] <racho> iceroot, yes gentoo is cool but come on compiling every single thing on my system just for the "extra" speed... it's rock solid as a server though
[21:43] <Gentoo64> fffuu: ubuntu or mint
[21:43] <virusuy> but, why not ?
[21:43] <virusuy> amgik
[21:44] <virusuy> magikgimp,
[21:44] <fffuu> but you said it wouldnt be different with mint?
[21:44] <jforjackjohnson> Gentoo64, you do not know what Debian is? Google it!
[21:44] <Gentoo64> fffuu: no i didnt
[21:44] <Gentoo64> :s
[21:44] <magikgimp> I don't know why. Real shame I think, might get fixed soon?
[21:44] <fffuu> and i have 64 system ofc.. but ubuntu recommends 32 buts
[21:44] <Gentoo64> jforjackjohnson: no tell me what debian is, is it a distro?
[21:44] <fffuu> you wrote mont be any different
[21:44] <fffuu> *mint
[21:44] <Gentoo64> fffuu: its only so new users dont accidentally install 64 bit on a 32 cpu
[21:44] <iceroot> !google | jforjackjohnson
[21:44] <jforjackjohnson> Yes. It is the 'rock upon which Ubuntu is based'.
[21:44] <iceroot> !debian | Gentoo64
[21:45] <mfaroukg> !debian
[21:45] <Bragex9> so if I I use the command "sudo locate xauthority" and if nothing happens, then the file does not exist?
[21:45] <fffuu> so I should pick 64 then
[21:45] <magikgimp> The problem with Ubuntu now is that it's so big, IMHO they need to stick to a path and get that solidly working before adding new stuff but then I guess that's been the criticism of it for a while now
[21:45] <Gentoo64> jeez how could i not have heard of debian?
[21:45] <iceroot> Bragex9: or your db is not the latest
[21:45] <mvdir> Is there any way to downgrade from oneiric to natty?
[21:45] <iceroot> Bragex9: sudo updatedb
[21:45] <fffuu> well I will try mint then
[21:45] <iceroot> mvdir: no
[21:45] <gry> hello, the system freezes after saying 'booting without network configuration' but a manual 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' causes the login screen to appear. How can I troubleshoot this?
[21:45] <fffuu> thank you
[21:45] <NoVARaif> I believe the issue is limited to just Xserve or some other piece of the GUI pie, as, once booted, I can still remotely access the network resources that the server hosts.
[21:45] <Gentoo64> fffuu: i meant "wont" not "mint" i doubt mint will be faster for videos...
[21:46] <fffuu> ah ok
[21:46] <fffuu> so the video support will be a factor anyway
[21:46] <Gentoo64> fffuu: i can play full hd videos ok even in virtualbox
[21:46] <peto_> hi.. works CREBS wallpaper changer in ubuntu 11.10??
[21:46] <fffuu> its strange for me to understand this concept
[21:46] <Satanaa> Hey guys! after used 11.10 for a while i have figured out 2 problems.. first is that if my box goes to the screensaver i have to reboot to get back to the desktop.. right now im forced to use caffiene to keep the screen active.. and the second one that popped up of nowhere is that i now have 2 battery icons instead of 2
[21:47] <fffuu> for me the videoplay is functioning but bad
[21:47] <Gentoo64> fffuu: is it online videos like utube or proper videos?
[21:47] <fffuu> it "hacks" in flash
[21:47] <fffuu> online videos
[21:47] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[21:47] <pensters> i created a br0. But not firestarter says eth0 isnt ready and cant connect to anything.
[21:47] <fffuu> but proper are not 100% like windows
[21:47] <Satanaa> anyone had the same issue as me?
[21:47] <spickle> where is the developer channel
[21:47] <spickle> ?
[21:47] <iceroot> !alis | spickle
[21:47] <johnjohn101> is there any to keep someone from logging in on the login screen, that is hide there id. not a real user but one that is need for software.
[21:48] <NoVARaif> if someone could point me in the right direction to troubleshoot  / resolve my issue, I would be most grateful
[21:48] <fffuu> btw is there any programmers here?
[21:48] <iceroot> spickle: should be #ubuntu-dev  but when you have to ask i dont think its the correct channel for you
[21:48] <johnjohn101> fffuu: i am
[21:48] <andreo> problem: during update leptop was turned off. Now ubuntu can't start. "Ubuntu is running in low-graphic mode". Please help
[21:48] <spickle> iceroot: thx
[21:49] <Bragex9> iceroot: what does "sudo updatedb" do?
[21:49] <fffuu> johnjohn101 can you pvt me?
[21:49] <iceroot> Bragex9: it updates the database locate is using
[21:49] <fffuu> im irc noob
[21:49] <iceroot> Bragex9: see "man locoate"
[21:49] <iceroot> Bragex9: see "man locate"
[21:50] <Bragex9> iceroot: ok, thanks
[21:50] <DarwinSurvivor> What happened to the "set as default" in the power settings? It was there in 11.04, but I can't find it in 11.10. I want the computer to suspend after 1 hour of unuse for ALL accounts
[21:50] <iceroot> Bragex9: locate foobar is NOT searching the drive for the file foobar, its asking the database which contains all file-infos and these infos are generated with "sudo updatedb"
[21:50] <spickle> iceroot: hehe.. not new to ubuntu but new to IRC. thx again
[21:50] <racho> fffuu, most linux users have a base grasp of programming
[21:51] <andreo> during update laptop was turned off. Now i can't start ubuntu. "Ubuntu is running in low-graphic mode". How can i login to shell and try to fix problem in shell?
[21:51] <mfaroukg> does any one knows a 3D game to try the ubunut 11.10 quality?
[21:51] <iceroot> racho: luckily the times where you should have basic programming skills for linux are over
[21:51] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: what do you mean quality?
[21:52] <inuyasha> yo
[21:52] <iceroot> mfaroukg: unreal tournament, quake 3/4, doom 3, enemy territory and so on
[21:52] <Jax90> andreo: try to boot into recovery mode, should get a shell that way
[21:52] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, I want to check the speed and the graphics ....etc
[21:52] <inuyasha> i need some help with my internet
[21:52] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: try neverputt its a good game
[21:52] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: it wont exactly stress the gpu though lol
[21:53] <iceroot> mfaroukg: if you want a free game, you can try "openarena"
[21:53] <inuyasha> i installed ultimate edition on my old gateway laptop
[21:53] <inuyasha> and i want to know how i can hook up my wifi
[21:53] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: most linux games arent stressy
[21:53] <iceroot> inuyasha: ultimate edition is not supported here
[21:53] <iceroot> inuyasha: its not standard ubuntu
[21:53] <inuyasha> :l
[21:53] <Jax90> y'know I always felt I lost somthing when it was just assumed Ubuntu users want to boot into graphical mode.  I liked to type startx when I wanted graphics.  Easy to fix problems that way
[21:53] <inuyasha> well darn
[21:53] <racho> iceroot, well it's true but some knowledge of bash/python/perl/*insert scripting language here* can be very resourceful in any linux distro
[21:53] <inuyasha> what can i do then
[21:53] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, I noticed that :D but still not eassy for kids.
[21:53] <uofm49426> can some look at my pastebin tell me why bttv dont work
[21:54] <iceroot> racho: of course but are not needed
[21:54] <jwash> hi everyone, when i use synaptic to remove a small program it wants to remove a bunch of other programs, the result will break the system. how can i select truly only one package to be removed?
[21:54] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: what, neverputt?
[21:54] <usr13> inuyasha: Boot your wifi?
[21:54] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: neverputt is easy controls :)
[21:54] <iceroot> racho: not for binary distributions
[21:54] <Bragex9> Can anyone plz hack into my puter and fix it? :-)
[21:54] <usr13> inuyasha: Oh, hook it up ?
[21:54] <inuyasha> my wifi is broadcasting since my other laptops are working on it
[21:54] <Gentoo64> Bragex9: sure
[21:54] <iceroot> inuyasha: as i said, its not supported here
[21:54] <inuyasha> but it isnt connecting on this one, doesnt show up
[21:54] <inuyasha> wifi is disabled and dont know how to enable
[21:55] <Bragex9> Gentoo64: k. let me know when ur done.
[21:55] <usr13> inuyasha: What device is it?  lspci
[21:55] <jwash> ifconfig wlan0 up
[21:55] <usr13> inuyasha: Is this a laptop?
[21:55] <magn3tics> Youve gotta be joking me
[21:55] <inuyasha> yeah,
[21:55] <Gentoo64> a13134: yea brb
[21:55] <iceroot> Bragex9: never!!! give someone access to your pc
[21:55] <mfaroukg>  inuyasha, I have this problem too
[21:55] <inuyasha> old gateway laptop,
[21:55] <magn3tics> the *VERY FIRST* thing I try to do in Nautilus crashes it
[21:55] <wilhart> hi, i need to get a older version for vlc
[21:55] <magn3tics> what a pile of crap
[21:55] <Somelauw> Is there a way to make an sxession-enviroment perform a custom script, so I can have a seperate .xsession for every wm.
[21:55] <inuyasha> centrino cpu, 4gb ram, old thing but is still good
[21:55] <usr13> inuyasha: Try the switch (or the Function key combination)
[21:56] <omni> Is http://releases.ubuntu.com a Ubuntu website? I'm looking to download 8.04, and this is all i can find.
[21:56] <wilhart> without compiling it
[21:56] <NoVARaif> Good evening.  My Issue: I have a Dell PowerEdge SC420 here at home that I run Ubuntu on, as I use it mainly for file/print services…  I had some sort of glitch during the 11.10 upgrade where the screen went black, nothing would respond, and my only option was a hard reboot.  The system will boot to the GUI login screen, and any user can log in, however the desktop, 99.8% of the time is just the background.  I've been scouring the
[21:56] <NoVARaif> trying to get the GUI completely reset, to no avail… I believe the issue is limited to just Xserve or some other piece of the GUI pie, as, once booted, I can still remotely access the network resources that the server hosts.  any suggestions would be appreciated
[21:56] <mfaroukg>  usr13, I have the same problem and I do switch off/on to work
[21:56] <iceroot> omni: yes
[21:56] <uofm49426> http://paste.ubuntu.com/711411/
[21:56] <inuyasha> still nothing
[21:56] <omni> iceroot, Cool, thank you, didnt want to download a program from a bad site.
[21:56] <iceroot> omni: but 8.04 is not supported anymore (only server edition)
[21:56] <Bragex9> iceroot: I was just joking.... I am pretty frustrated after being used to a seamingless 10.04. Now everything is a mess...
[21:56] <inuyasha> if i right click the network icon, it shows wifi is disabled,
[21:56] <omni> iceroot, that is what i'm looking for :)
[21:57] <andreo> Jax90: thanks alot
[21:57] <iceroot> !download
[21:57] <CharminTheMoose> I can't seem to load up window managers via gdm and turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo. Function + up works fine.
[21:57] <Jax90> magn3tics: which release are you using?  I upgraded to Narwhal, and suddenly everything is *very* buggy including nautilus crashing every so often
[21:57] <iceroot> omni: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[21:57] <organiks> how is oneiric for netbooks? has anyone tried or heard
[21:57] <Jax90> andreo: np
[21:58] <magn3tics> I upped from natty, but I did a clean install. My Home dir is the only thing I kept.
[21:58] <iceroot> organiks: running fine here on eeepc901 (but the eeepc 901 is getting kernel-panics)
[21:58] <Gentoo64> organiks: prob works ok but wireless seems a big issue for a lot fof peple
[21:58] <magn3tics>  I mean, I'm used to nautilus being worthless, but not this much.
[21:58] <usr13> NoVARaif: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-11-10-black-screen-after-boot-screen-908044/
[21:58] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, yes I have wireless problem too
[21:58] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/869502
[21:58] <organiks> Thaniks
[21:58] <Jax90> magn3tics: never had a problem until natty. bah.
[21:58] <organiks> iceroot: u running 64?
[21:59] <iceroot> organiks: no
[21:59] <Gentoo64> mfaroukg: i dont use wireless but hear people ocmplaing all the time
[21:59] <organiks> 32?
[21:59] <iceroot> organiks: sure
[21:59] <johnjohn101> why is the user admin tool in 11.10 so lame?
[21:59] <Gentoo64> organiks: theres no 16 bit
[21:59] <NoVARaif> usr13: Thanks!  Off to read and try
[21:59] <iceroot> organiks: most of the netbook-cpus dont support amd64
[21:59] <mfaroukg> Gentoo64, I do turn it off/on then it works, I hope this is a solvable bug
[22:00] <DEdesigns57> Ubuntu 11.10 is not loading the complete desktop environment , no unity launch bar or anything besides the words File Edit View Go Bookmarks and Help. Anyone  one know whats going on?
[22:00] <organiks> yeah i know
[22:00] <fluffybacon> organiks: acer aspire 1, runs fine.
[22:00] <organiks> im running 11.04 64bit on atom 450 but not a 11.04 fan
[22:00] <organiks> wanted to upgrade
[22:01] <organiks> is upgrade safe or should i do a fresh
[22:01] <Jax90> No unity launch bar?  Thank heaven.  Sorry =D
[22:01] <Gentoo64> organiks: fresh
[22:01] <iceroot> organiks: just do a backup
[22:01] <Gentoo64> organiks: 99% of people come here saying upgrade broke system
[22:01] <majere> So, I just updated to 11.10
[22:01] <Jax90> fresh is best, usually
[22:01] <CharminTheMoose> I can't seem to load up window managers via gdm and turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo. Function + up works fine. Running 11.04.
[22:01] <majere> or.. 10.11
[22:01] <iceroot> Gentoo64: wrong
[22:01]  * racho at Jax90 "Amen Brother" :)
[22:01] <majere> whats the newest one?
[22:01] <Gentoo64> organiks: or use clonezilla or similar and youll be safe
[22:01] <Gentoo64> iceroot: ok 99.9% :)
[22:01] <majere> 11.11?
[22:01] <iceroot> Gentoo64: please stop FUD
[22:01] <organiks> can i partition then install on new partition then delete old?
[22:01] <iceroot> majere: 11.10
[22:02] <DEdesigns57> Only way I got in here was through terminal, is anyone else having problems???
[22:02] <Gentoo64> lol whatever
[22:02] <Bragex9> DEdesigns57: I have the same problem
[22:02] <zi> Which package has a2x in it?
[22:02] <majere> Okay thank you IceRoot, Can I get rid of Unity? Or is it hard coded? I want my Gnome back
[22:02] <iceroot> zi: use apt-file
[22:02] <gry> DEdesigns57, what's your problem, could you describe it please?
[22:02] <zi> iceroot - cool
[22:02] <Jax90> DEdesigns57:  what, this server?
[22:02] <iceroot> !nounitiy | majere
[22:02] <iceroot> !nounity | majere
[22:02] <wabz> how do I get rid of unity? It's even less usable and more buggy that before
[22:03] <ivorensis> is antivirus/firewall necessary for ubuntu?
[22:03] <wabz> !nounity wabz
[22:03] <majere> Hey, That got rid of it! Thank you Iceroot.: if only life were that simple.
[22:03] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: not antivirus its only useful for scanning windows files ofc
[22:03] <racho> wabz, sudo apt-get install shuttleworth ;)
[22:03] <improveupon> i keep having to reinstall ubuntu. now if, from unity, i click on the home folder, it does not come up; if i reboot it warns me that program, nautilus i guess, is still running. also if i put in a cd or dvd the icon appears but it hangs up if you try to open it.
[22:03] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: firewall is used on any os
[22:04] <spickle> iceroot: #ubuntu-devel
[22:04] <tjpoe> anyone know where the empathy prefs file is? i was testing out themes and now the app crashes every time I try to start it
[22:04] <ivorensis> Is the firewall on as default?
[22:04] <iceroot> spickle: alis :)
[22:04] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: no
[22:04] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: sudo ufw enable
[22:04] <ivorensis> is it helpful?
[22:04] <Jax90> tjb0607, any error message if started from a terminal?
[22:04] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: not by default no
[22:04] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: but no harm in turning it on
[22:05] <DEdesigns57> Yea, I launch Ubuntu but not Unity launch bar comes up, no options for time, shutdown, ect.. thats nomally on the top right hand side of the panel. Only thing that shows up is File,  Edit ,View, Bookmarks, and help, as well as my background image. But nothing else!
[22:05] <Microsoft-Window> Congrats Ubuntu on releasing your new improved Operating System.
[22:05] <ivorensis> Are there possible downsides?
[22:05] <qin> tjpoe: dpkg -L emapthy
[22:05] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: manually having to open ports
[22:05] <racho> here comes the trolls...
[22:05] <DEdesigns57> I meant no*** not "not"
[22:05] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: but other than that no
[22:05] <wiredfool> DEdesigns57: that happened to one of my users too
[22:05] <Bragex9> gry: I am stuck at the login screen.I did notice that although it returns me to the login screen as if it doesn't recognize my password, it does not say "Invalid Password" like it does if I put in an invalid password. In terminal my passwd is accepted
[22:05] <ivorensis> Why is it not useful by default?
[22:05] <Microsoft-Window> But.. Windows 8 will be faster and more light weight on peoples' computer harddrives
[22:06] <iceroot> Microsoft-Window: stop it please
[22:06] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: nothing listens by default afaik
[22:06] <Jax90> unity is a disease
[22:06] <qin> Microsoft-Window: hehe
[22:06] <tittu> hi, i wanted to install ubuntu on my laptop so i used the software available at pendrivelinux.com and created a partition on my hard disk and installed the iso from it. now when i boot my system , i get the ubuntu boot screen and cannot login to windows. also, i am not able to change my partitions to create space to install ubuntu. how do i get my windows loader back and how do i change my partitions. any help is greatly appreciated. thanks'
[22:06] <Microsoft-Window> Windows 8 a new start: Better windows.
[22:06] <iceroot> !ops | Microsoft-Window
[22:06] <tjpoe> http://pastebin.com/ZbBEkNE3
[22:06] <DEdesigns57> It happened after I installed compiz last night
[22:07] <majere> Windows 8 better be linux lol.
[22:07] <Microsoft-Window> Ubuntu 11.10 = FAIL
[22:07] <cordoval> getting this PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626/sqlite.so'
[22:07] <majere> then it will be a new start.
[22:07] <cordoval> after upgrade to latest ubuntu
[22:07] <cordoval> is this well known ? PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626/sqlite.so' ?
[22:07] <ivorensis> Thanks, Gentoo64. I appreciate your time.
[22:07] <wiredfool> DEdesigns57: It happened to me when I installed one of the settings managers, and poked around (but didn't obviously change anything)
[22:07] <tjpoe> qin: http://pastebin.com/ZbBEkNE3
[22:07] <majere> It seems like i'm not getting the most out of my screen resolution though.
[22:07] <diverdude> would libboost-all-dev be the correct package to install to use boost cpp libraries??
[22:07] <bsmith093> im trying to wget a webpage and all the hyperlinks one it like a mirror and make it an offline copy with -k but basically down not up but no parent doesnt seem to get all the links under it
[22:07] <Gentoo64> ivorensis: ok
[22:08] <wiredfool> DEdesigns57: Fixed it (if that) by adding a new user [username]2
[22:08] <Flannel> cordoval: Comment out the line in /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/sqlite.ini (leaving sqlite3.ini intact) (comment with #)
[22:08] <Flannel> cordoval: er, sorry, comment with ;
[22:08] <DEdesigns57> You mean at that login screen, you made a new user account?
[22:09] <Flannel> cordoval: Also, please file a bug if you have time.  This is the second time I've seen that in as many days.
[22:09] <majere> In Unity, Can I change the fonts? use small Icons?
[22:09] <rubknob> when did ubuntu introduce the service command?
[22:09] <cordoval> Flannel: I only had 1 line there
[22:09] <racho> majere, for small icons and stuff - > ccms
[22:09] <cordoval> commented
[22:09] <magn3tics> LOL @ Hardware Drivers... yes "version current" and "post-release updates" is totalyl user friendly.
[22:09] <cordoval> will I be left out without sqlite?
[22:09] <Jax90> bsmith093, was that wget -mk     or wget -k?
[22:10] <ju2ef> Just fixed the missing sound issue with m-audio 2496, just had to reinstall Jackd, that simple it was
[22:10] <majere> ill look it up Racho, Thank you Racho.. Your name makes we want tacos though
[22:10] <racho> ...
[22:10] <tittu> can someone help me in installing ubuntu and cleaning the mess that i made while trying to do so. thanks
[22:10] <Flannel> cordoval: right.  There's a second file (sqlite3.ini) in that folder with another similar include
[22:10] <Gentoo64> tittu: what mess
[22:10] <bsmith093> Jax90: i meant to grab the page and everything under it and convert the links to local refrences
[22:10] <Jax90> rubknob, ahh, the service command.  A while ago.  I still like sysVinit =/
[22:10] <iceroot> rubknob: 10.10
[22:10] <majere> .. wait, I can find it in the sofware center right?
[22:10] <bsmith093> Jax90:  and i think -mk is working thanks
[22:10] <cordoval> oh ok solved it thanks man
[22:11] <cordoval> Flannel:
[22:11] <cordoval> thanks
[22:11] <rubknob> Jax90: damn, i've been using /etc/init.d this whole time!
[22:11] <devish> Gentoo64: howz gentoo
[22:11] <iceroot> rubknob: everything before was not using always the service-part
[22:11] <improveupon> tittu: i'm pretty noob here, but do you have a live cd for the distro you wanted to install from the image?
[22:11] <cordoval> where to file the bug though
[22:11] <Jax90> bsmith093, not used it myself, but wget -mk www.hotties.com should work.
[22:11] <Flannel> !bug | cordoval
[22:11] <Gentoo64> devish: perfect :)
[22:11] <Jax90> ulp, I hope that wasn't a real website, lol
[22:11] <Gentoo64> devish: did you get that thing sorted?
[22:11] <Gentoo64> forgot what it was
[22:11] <majere> Or is it compizconfig something somethign?
[22:11] <Jax90> rubknob, =D
[22:11] <tittu> gentoo64: i used the application available on pendrivelinux.com to create a bootable partition for ubuntu iso. i installed it on a fat32 partition on my hard disk. but now, when i boot my system, i cannot load iwndows and if i try installing ubuntu, i cannot change my partitions
[22:12] <cordoval> Flannel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/875262
[22:12] <tittu> improveupon: yes, i downloaded the ubuntu dvd
[22:12] <Gentoo64> tittu: what do you mean cant change partitions?
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> tittu: ubuntu is not to be installed on fat32
[22:12] <racho> majere, yes compiz somethign something a.k.a ccms i reckon (not running ubuntu)
[22:12] <slydawg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-2Zs0-N1dA&newstate=70e6df3f8c86f1cd1d2116bc410bc79d
[22:12] <ju2ef> Is there any point of recompiling kernel?
[22:12] <Gentoo64> MonkeyDust: i think he means the usb
[22:12] <majere> Ahh yes, Finally a reason for windows key on ubuntu
[22:12] <devish> Gentoo64: yup workig like a charm (the ppa) but i must say compiling has its own aroma
[22:12] <Flannel> cordoval: Ah, splended.  Thanks.
[22:12] <majere> Thank you Racho :?
[22:12] <mcrawfor> So, is there really no way to set the remote resolution in vinagre for rdp?
[22:12] <Gentoo64> devish: ah nmap.. i remember now
[22:12] <racho> ju2ef, usually no
[22:12] <gry> what is the name of the application that runs when I click 'lock screen'?
[22:12] <mcrawfor> I can't find it
[22:12] <tittu> gentoo64: i select my windows partition, change it and decrease it size by 60GB, it waits for a while and then nothing changes.
[22:12] <iceroot> !kernel | ju2ef
[22:13] <iceroot> ju2ef: but normally you dont need that
[22:13] <slydawg> sorry, wrong window
[22:13] <Gentoo64> tittu: just hangs? or errors
[22:13] <tittu> MonkeyDust: i know. i want to create an ext4 partition, but i cannot
[22:13] <devish> Gentoo64: yes nmap g++ was not there as u might have forgot that too
[22:13] <ju2ef> So why people do that, performance?
[22:13] <devish> Gentoo64: helping a lot here
[22:13] <Gentoo64> devish: yea i remembern ow sorry my memories gone
[22:13] <CharminTheMoose> I can't seem to load up window managers via gdm and turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo. Function + up works fine. Running 11.04.
[22:13] <tittu> gentoo64: none, the cursor changes to rotating circle thing for a few minutes as if it's doing something and then it comes back to the same thing
[22:14] <Gentoo64> ju2ef: customizing. theres loads of stuff not in default kernel. smallr kernel etc etc
[22:14] <Hganavak> How much is a ubuntu?
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> tittu: why not use a live cd / usb and use fdisk in a Terminal?
[22:14] <iceroot> ju2ef: to add special options, to have never versions (without distribution-patches), to build the kernel for ther architecture instead of i386 and so on
[22:14] <Gentoo64> Hganavak: free
[22:14] <tittu> gentoo64: i also tried using kde partition manager, it gives me an error when i try to shrink my volume
[22:14] <Hganavak> Oh cool
[22:14] <Gentoo64> tittu: whats it say?
[22:14] <Hganavak> Can I download it from the app store?
[22:14] <Gentoo64> Hganavak: ubuntu website
[22:14] <devish> CharminTheMoose: you can make the short cut yourself
[22:14] <racho> ju2ef, usually for specific hardware support or to active some specific kernel directives (crypting/security) for example
[22:14] <tittu> MonkeyDust: what is fdisk?
[22:14] <Hganavak> Will it run on iPhone 4?
[22:14] <iceroot> !download | Hganavak
[22:14] <majere> I'll just google themes that have already made it smaller
[22:14] <Gentoo64> Hganavak: stop trolling
[22:14] <iceroot> Hganavak: no
[22:15] <ju2ef> Thanks
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> tittu: a linux command to make partitions
[22:15] <devish> CharminTheMoose: in system settings somewhere
[22:15] <tittu> gentoo64: it says that it encountered an error while trying to do so, and it aborts the operation
[22:15] <Hganavak> Will it be able to run on iPhone 5?
[22:15] <iceroot> Hganavak: stop it please
[22:15] <Gentoo64> tittu: hmm no idea!
[22:15] <CharminTheMoose> devish, is that then WM agnostic?
[22:15] <Hganavak> ??
[22:15] <tittu> MonkeyDust: i have already tried gparted, and kde aprtition manager, none of them work
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> tittu: try fdisk
[22:16] <iceroot> Hganavak: if you want linux on your smartphone go to #android
[22:16] <Jax90> MonkeyDust, think he wants to *shrink* a partition... hmm, can this be done easily?
[22:16] <Gentoo64> tittu: gparted should work fine ive used it for years
[22:16] <FoolsRun> Hi, since upgrading to 11.10, X is very unstable when my external USB drives are attached. It also appears to be loading one of them as a mouse. Anyone seen this before?
[22:16] <tittu> gentoo64: MonkeyDust: has it got to do something with that i created a partition on my hard drive instead of using a usb drive?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> Jax90: tittu I missed that part
[22:16] <tittu> gentoo64: it didn't work
[22:16] <devish> CharminTheMoose: what is WM and why its agnostic
[22:16] <ju2ef> Just got some troll on privacy
[22:16] <slydawg> Can you not just use the live disc to go into the partition manager using that?
[22:16] <racho> FoolsRun, yes it's called ubuntu new release first month edition
[22:16] <Gentoo64> tittu: i have no idea exactly what you've done
[22:17] <ju2ef> Pri*
[22:17] <FoolsRun> racho: ha. Yeah.
[22:17] <FoolsRun> racho: so it's possible this will clear up with time and updates?
[22:17] <racho> FoolsRun, is there still the xorg-edgers ppa
[22:17] <mfaroukg> why vpn doesn't work now?
[22:17] <improveupon> anyone: from unity, if you open the home folder it hangs, and if you open the cd/dvd it hangs. i keep having to reinstall. should i reinstall again?
[22:17] <mcrawfor> anyone know if I can change the screen size of RDP connections in vinagre?
[22:17] <FoolsRun> racho: dunno, but I'll check
[22:17] <racho> FoolsRun, they used to provide updates for X
[22:17] <Gentoo64> improveupon: no
[22:17] <ju2ef> Anonymous-hacker is a troll can you kick him?
[22:17] <gry> How can I disable the shading effect when clicking "lock screen"?
[22:18] <tittu> gentoo64: I was running windows. I downloaded the application from pendrivelinux.com and ubuntu dvd iso. then i created a 3GB fat32 partition and used that software to create a bootable ubuntu disk in that 3GB partition
[22:18] <CharminTheMoose> devish, I mean can I set up the laptop function keys from gnome 2 so that fiddling with my brightness works no matter which window manager I use?
[22:18] <n-iCe> hello, I installed 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae from backports, but now when I try to load my wireless driver I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting iwlagn (/lib/modules/2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlagn.ko): Invalid argument
[22:18] <Gentoo64> tittu: 3gb on the usb yes?
[22:18] <kirindave_> Does anyone else have problems with the ssh keys that Amazon generates? I have a key that macosx ssh can use just fine, but trying to use it as an IdentityFile under Ubuntu gives me a complaint about an unknown key type
[22:19] <tittu> gentoo64: i didn't use a usb, that 3GB parittion was on my internal HDD and that software removed my windows boot loader and now i cannot even login to windows
[22:19] <tittu> gentoo64: i didn't use any external device
[22:19] <iceroot> where does ^x^e gets the info to start nano? $EDITOR is not set
[22:19] <kirindave_> I can't reach any of my ec2 instances under ubuntu as a result. ;.;
[22:19] <ju2ef> Can you help with troll?
[22:19] <iceroot> ju2ef: #ubuntu-ops
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> ju2ef: just type /ignore Anonymous-hacker
[22:19] <ju2ef> Thanks
[22:20] <Gentoo64> tittu: oh, sounds like a mess. try reinstalling the windows bootloader and work from there
[22:20] <rjyoung> I just upgrade my laptop 3 times my mouse stopped working had to shut down and I get it back again also if i go to far my wireless disconnect and reconnect all the time my old system didn't do this
[22:20] <wilhart> hello, what is this: http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/ipkg-feed/armv4l/older/
[22:20] <tittu> gentoo64: how do i re-install windows loader. and how do i change my partitions so that i can install ubuntu ?
[22:20] <Gentoo64> tittu: still no idea why gparted wont resize for you
[22:20] <Gentoo64> tittu: ask in ##windows because i dont know myself
[22:20] <FoolsRun> Installing all avaialble updates from the x edgers ppa. What could possibly go worng.
[22:20] <iceroot> wilhart: #vlc
[22:20] <sjefen6> I get this error after upgradeing to 11.10 "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)". How can I get i back running?
[22:20] <tittu> gentoo64: do you want me to try that again and tell you exactly what the error is?
[22:20] <racho> tittu, you need a windoze cd
[22:20] <Gentoo64> tittu: it does involve a windows cd though
[22:21] <Gentoo64> tittu: ok
[22:21] <wilhart> iceroot: no such thing
[22:21] <tittu> @racho: i got one with my laptop, but wont it replace my previous windows installation ?
[22:21] <Jax90> tittu, gparted might be something to look at, as Gentoo64 says.  Resizing partitions is a feature apparently.  Not done it myself though.  Whatever you do, BACKUP  =)
[22:22] <Mrokii> Hello. Since Banshee is officially shipped with Ubuntu, maybe somebody can help me. i have tried to subscribe to some podcasts (some of them are supposed to be with video), but when I start an episode I don't see a video, I only hear a sound. Instead only the list of episodes in the podcasts is displayed.
[22:22] <CharminTheMoose> I can't seem to turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo when using other window managers. Function + up works fine. Running 11.04.
[22:22] <racho> tittu, you can repair the windows installation which will clean the MBR and erase GRUB
[22:22] <myk_robinson> my laptop screen wont wake up after 11.10 shuts off the display.  Any ideas for a fix?
[22:22] <wilhart> any finnish people here?
[22:22] <jatt> !fi
[22:22] <racho> tittu, which means your linux partition will be undetectable from windows and from the mbr
[22:22] <wilhart> aa
[22:22] <tittu> @racho: thanks
[22:22] <iceroot> wilhart: #videolan
[22:23] <wilhart> iceroot: ah
[22:23] <racho> tittu, but you can slip a live cd and repartition and set up a proper dual boot
[22:23] <NoVARaif> usr13: Tried the steps in the link you suggested.. Now the desktop has a toolbar "File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help" and the only icon is Terminal …..  progress?
[22:23] <Jax90> good lord.  Finnish looks like an interesting language to learn.
[22:23] <tittu> racho: if i get back to windows, i will change my partitions from there and then install ubuntu
[22:24] <racho> tittu, that is possible too but most probably all your data in the ubuntu part will be lost
[22:24] <racho> tittu, as ppl say it's up to you :)
[22:24] <vacho> guys..
[22:24] <tittu> MonkeyDust: Gentoo64: Jax90: i tried suing gparted again and it says: "An error occured while applying the operations. See the details for more information" but there is not details button
[22:24] <vacho> my ubuntu 11.10 is acting up..
[22:25] <ju2ef> This channel is full of trolls
[22:25] <vacho> my ubuntu 11.10 is acting up.. my desktop loads but I cannot click on ANYTHING ... and no.. it's not frozen
[22:25] <kirindave_> No help? There is some documentation for 11.04 asking to use UI that doesn't exist anymore. I can't do work because ubuntu's default ssh rejects these keys.
[22:25] <tittu> racho: my ubuntu partition has the live cd and nothing else, i lose all data even if i shut down my system
[22:25] <ju2ef> They keep soaking
[22:25] <ju2ef> Spamming
[22:25] <CharminTheMoose> I can't seem to turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo when using other window managers. Function + up works fine. Running 11.04.
[22:25] <Gentoo64> fffuu: its not hard to reinstall grub
[22:26] <Gentoo64> fffuu: there can only be one bootloader. windows cant boot linux, but linux can boot windows
[22:26] <tittu> MonkeyDust: Gentoo64: Jax90: it also says that, if you want support, you need to provide the saved details
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> tittu: are you using a live cd / usb?
[22:27] <racho> btw just a question does ubuntu install grub2 by default now?
[22:27] <Flannel> ju2ef: Let the folks in #ubuntu-ops know if you're getting query spam.  People tend to avoid spamming operators, so unless we're told, we have no way of knowing/helping.
[22:27] <tittu> MonkeyDust: i downloaded the iso for the dvd and then used the usb creator to create a bootable partition on my HDD
[22:27] <Gentoo64> racho: has for ages i think
[22:27] <racho> Gentoo64, i really doubt the ages part..
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> tittu: ok, but rather try a live cd /usb stick
[22:28] <Gentoo64> what version did they start using grub2?
[22:28] <FoolsRun> What can go wrong is that X stops working entirely.
[22:28] <FoolsRun> Incase y'all were wondering
[22:28] <Jax90> racho: grub2 has been in for a while. Grub was brilliant, never had a problem.  I find Grub2 a little.. difficult to tinker with
[22:28] <vacho> racho: lol
[22:28] <colzani> hi people. I have a lenovo z470 with ubuntu 11.10, and i have problema with multimedia touch keys. Indicator icons dont work if i press multimedia touch keys.
[22:28] <Gentoo64> racho: since 9.10
[22:28] <tittu> i have an external HDD, but when i created a partition on it and used usb creator for that, it didn't work, so i did that on my internal HDD
[22:29] <mfaroukg> why VPN doesn't work now? it is always failing
[22:29] <colzani> when i suspend the notebook, the desktop back to the normal
[22:29] <racho> Gentoo64, wasnt't it in natty??
[22:29] <soulf> Hi, my wireless connection is extremely unstable (it randomly disconnects) unless I'm very close to my router. My wireless card is atheros AR9285 using the ath9k driver on ubuntu 11.10. Every suggested fix I found online didn't help. Does anybody have an idea?
[22:29] <Da|Mummy> im having trouble getting sound over usb amp, why?
[22:29] <Gentoo64> racho: 9.10 is older than natty. thats 2009
[22:30] <wilhart> how do i do this: Signing key:
[22:30] <wilhart> 1024R/801DF724 (What is this?)
[22:30] <FoolsRun> racho: I don't recommend edgers
[22:30] <tittu> MonkeyDust: Jax90: Gentoo64: racho: thanks for all your help. I will try getting into windows back and then change my partitions and see what i can get. thanks a lot
[22:31] <Gentoo64> tittu: well you seem stuck atm if you cant partition for whatever reason. getting windows back would be a start... lol
[22:31] <racho> i thought grub 1.98 came out 2010 ??
[22:31] <RoC_MasterMind> Where did JeOS go?
[22:31] <racho> FoolsRun, is it that bad??
[22:31] <Gentoo64> racho: 9.10?
[22:32] <tittu> gentoo64: yeah, thats what i will try...thanks
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> tittu: changing partions in win is not a good idea
[22:32] <Jax90> good luck tittu
[22:32] <Gentoo64> MonkeyDust: hes not
[22:32] <Gentoo64> he just wants an os to boot into
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> ok
[22:32] <racho> well ain't 9.10 2009 - 10 month
[22:32] <Gentoo64> racho: yes
[22:32] <vacho> can someone please help me with my ubuntu 11.10 ... after upgrade I can't click on anything.. computer is not frozen but nothing works in DESKTOP mode...please anyone? I switched to terminal and updated it again.. but still same problem.
[22:33] <FoolsRun> racho: well it replaced my nvidia driver and the available proprietary drivers so I can't get it back
[22:33] <FoolsRun> racho: and it didn't fix my can't-do-anything-with-USB-drives-attached problem
[22:34] <Jax90> hmm, last time I installed over Windows Vista I used some prop software to clear some space on the drive, then booted up Ubuntu, used gparted within that to partition away.  I forget what the win software was.  Partition Manager, or something like that..  got a trial version.
[22:34] <FoolsRun> too bad I can't undo
[22:34] <soulf> My wireless connection  randomly disconnects unless I'm very close to my router. My wireless card is atheros AR9285 using the ath9k driver on ubuntu 11.10. Does anybody have an idea?
[22:34] <CharminTheMoose> I can't seem to turn my laptop brightness down via the function + down key combo when using other window managers. Function + up works fine. Running 11.04.
[22:34] <BlackDalek> Help! upgrading to 11.10 killed my laptop. I had to install gnome-session-fallback and choose "gnome classic no effects" just to be able to load the desktop. Now the system completely freezes if I try to launch thunderbird or firefox.
[22:35] <Mogga> i have an issue after upgrade to 10.04.3 - it seems my LVM UUIDs have changed somehow
[22:35] <phiscibe> how can one look at a package in the repositories and tell what the compiler flags are?
[22:35] <soothing_psyops> KDE menu has no shutdown option, anyone know if there is a package to install to get this functionality?
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> phiscibe: try apt-cache policy package
[22:36] <Mogga> how is this possible? http://paste.ubuntu.com/711445/
[22:36] <Jax90> CharminTheMoose, you may need to manually edit xorg.conf.   Loads of resource on the web to help you do that.  Just a bit complicated to go into here
[22:36] <phiscibe> ill try, if it invlved polkit , its busted all over
[22:36] <BlackDalek> How do I fix this? My laptop freezes completely if I try to launch Thunderbird or Firefox after upgrade to 11.10
[22:37] <grom358> okay so I've upgraded to 11.10 and I can't connect to postgres
[22:37] <Mogga> BlackDalek: try moving your thunderbird/firefox settings somewhere else and starting
[22:37] <Mogga> clean start
[22:37] <vacho> 11.10 screwed up my system :)
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> BlackDalek: i can only think of the kworker bug, which eats your cpu
[22:37] <prodigalNoob> hey all, how do i restart x?
[22:37] <FoolsRun> vacho: welcome to the club. It's called "everyone".
[22:38] <prodigalNoob> i tried /etc/init.d/x11-common restart (and stop and force-reload) to no avail
[22:38] <CharminTheMoose> Jax90, ahh, cool, I thought I might have to do that. Is there any way for me to get X to 'dump' its current configuration into a prefabricated xorg.conf or will I have to use X -configure?
[22:38] <Gentoo64> heh upgrades breaking anything is "fud" in here
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> BlackDalek: kworker is intel video card related, check your video card
[22:38] <spickle> prodigalNoob: press Ctrl + Alt + F1 - login and type "sudo service gdm restart"
[22:38] <phiscibe> BlackDalek: launch firefox from terminal and give us the errros
[22:38] <Jax90> BlackDalek, if you create a new user, log in as such, then try Firefox does it still crash?  If so, maybe the settings in your home directory need looking at / deleting
[22:38] <phiscibe> or look in your syslog
[22:38] <prodigalNoob> ah, gdm
[22:38] <spickle> prodigalNoob: gdm = gnome display manager
[22:38] <prodigalNoob> errr no says gdm unrecognized
[22:38] <NoVARaif> I'm attempting to run a 'sudo apt-get' from an 11.10 recovery console, in an effort to 'fix' my post-11.10 upgrade 'black screen'…  However, any 'apt-get' attempts results in a TON of errors, all akin to "Failed to fetch …. Something wicked happened resolving <insert repository URL here> (No address is associated with hostname)"… I checked my ifconfig, and it's valid… suggestions?
[22:39] <prodigalNoob> yeah, last i ran ubuntu was 9.10
[22:39] <phiscibe> glib-networking is breaking many things it is near the route cause of 20 bugs
[22:39] <spickle> damn.. are you running 11.10? cause maybe they changed it :S sorry. i currently use 11.04.
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> NoVARaif: try rebooting in Recovery Mode and choose Repair
[22:39] <BlackDalek> I am afraid to try and launch anything else in case my system freezes up again... so far XChat and empathy are the only things I've tried which don't freeze the system.
[22:39] <prodigalNoob> spickle: yeah fresh install of 11.10
[22:39] <phiscibe> dbus is foo bard, even if you fix the locations of var and var run
[22:39] <Jax90> CharminTheMoose, well, the current config would be /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[22:39] <grom358> yes 11.10 has really screwed me over
[22:40] <FoolsRun> Hey, any way to undo all the packages that the xorg edgers ppa installed?
[22:40] <Arjun> hi
[22:40] <Gentoo64> Arjun: hi
[22:40] <prodigalNoob> so far i'm fine with 11.10, trying to get hibernate/wake-up working
[22:40] <prodigalNoob> hibernate works, but waking up causes mad graphic glitches
[22:40] <CharminTheMoose> Jax90, my default install of Ubuntu 11.04 doesn't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I'm here using X. :S
[22:40] <vacho> so any fixed for the 11.10?  And don't forget, I can't use pastebin since I have no working browser
[22:41] <vacho> nothing works on my computer after my upgade, I get to the desktop and nothing is clickable.
[22:41] <spickle> prodigalNoob: ah.. just found out..
[22:41] <Gentoo64> Arjun: say what then
[22:41] <spickle> prodigalNoob: guess I should thank you then :)
[22:41] <Arjun> i kinda blacklisted my other graphics card without enabling the intel one
[22:41] <Arjun> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613547
[22:41] <Jax90> CharminTheMoose, odd!  Try using "locate xorg.conf", if you've got you're locate database up to date. (Otherwise sudo updatedb, then locate)
[22:42] <Gentoo64> vacho: clean install?
[22:42] <corsairtux> anyone know if in ubuntu is possible to activate 2 finger mousepad scrolling?
[22:42] <dym> hey - ive installed lucid from debootstrap on 2 Raid1 MD Drives with GPT - i cannot seem to get grub2 to install correctly. i keep getting /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no mapping exists for `md0'. - Anyone got an idea?
[22:42] <soulf> My wireless connection  randomly disconnects unless I'm very close to my router. My wireless card is atheros AR9285 using the ath9k driver on ubuntu 11.10. Does anybody have an idea?
[22:42] <lucas-arg> what drivers should i use? nouveau or nvidia-current? is there any difference?
[22:42] <vacho> Gentoo64: will that erase everything I have on it?
[22:42] <Gentoo64> lucas-arg: yes, nvidia is miles faster
[22:42] <Gentoo64> vacho: yes
[22:42] <Arjun> basically i followed that up to the point where it said when you reboot without reading on
[22:42] <BlackDalek> MonkeyDust, the video card is nvidia, not intel
[22:42] <Arjun> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613547
[22:42] <FoolsRun> Hey, I'm trying to reinstall Natty and all I get is a flashing cursor when I boot to USB. I've tried a CD as well, same problem.  - Anyone got an idea?
[22:43] <peto_> how could I access all system settings? now, with Oneiric, I can only access a few
[22:44] <Gentoo64> vacho: they do the betas, then release a proper stable version still full of blatant bugs
[22:44] <Arjun> um can anyone help me un blacklist my driver?
[22:44] <corsairtux> touchpad*
[22:44] <phiscibe> vacho: in this case it would need global repari linux world wide becuase so many of these bugs going are on across many distors
[22:44] <vacho> Gentoo64: are there any other responsible distributions for linux?
[22:44] <Gentoo64> vacho: yes
[22:44] <prodigalNoob> Arjun: aren't you like a gentoo user?
[22:44] <CharminTheMoose> Jax90, strange, locate xorg.conf returns items in /usr/share and only one actual xorg.conf file:  /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/examples/xorg.conf
[22:44] <Gentoo64> vacho: even arch is bleeding edge but million times more stable
[22:44] <vacho> arch? never heard of it.
[22:45] <Arjun> im using ubuntu 10.04 via wubi install
[22:45] <CharminTheMoose> Jax90, like I said, I haven't changed anything to do with X since I installed Ubuntu a few months ago.
[22:45] <phiscibe> CharminTheMoose: rember bullletproff X  or what ever it is called, it reconfgures x at start now, doesnt even use a xorg.conf
[22:45] <devinus> so, after i installed ubuntu my boot screen doesnt fit the resolution of my monitor or look as nice as it did whne i was booting from the live cd. does anybody know how to make it look like the live cd boot splash?
[22:45] <Gentoo64> vacho: pretty much anything. id go for rolling release that way theres no 6 month build up of completely major changes to screw your comp
[22:45] <prodigalNoob> anyone have a docs/talk about how compiz is used in 11.10? I'm just not seeing it
[22:45] <BlackDalek> phiscibe, cat /var/log/kern.log | grep firefox outputs nothing
[22:45] <phiscibe> if you can get out of X to a terminal Xorg-configure might help
[22:45] <Arjun>  im using ubuntu 10.04 via wubi install
[22:45] <phiscibe> BlackDalek:  try theother one
[22:46] <peto_> for example I can not access disk settings, in 11.04 I could access everything
[22:46] <phiscibe> try dmesg | tail too
[22:46] <BlackDalek> phiscibe, the other says no such file or directory
[22:46] <magn3ts> Is it even possible to adjust DPI now
[22:46] <phiscibe> did i type it worng
[22:46] <magn3ts> Also, where is my sound indicator?
[22:46] <magn3ts> God this is a nightmare
[22:46] <soulf> Arjun, when I blacklist and unblacklist drivers it's in etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ...find your driver name and remove it from the list...
[22:46] <Jax90> CharminTheMoose, sorry - I was looking at my own system, which has xorg.conf installed.  Apparently from 9.10, X hasn't got a problem running without xorg.conf.  So, sudo Xorg -configure is the way to go to generate the file.
[22:47] <brian> hey all could use some advice as im new to linux
[22:47] <FoolsRun> brian: advice: don't use 11.10
[22:47] <brian> LOL well guess what im on
[22:47] <Arjun> hm the problem is its in a virtual machine so i cant actually access that S:
[22:47] <vino> How can I get ubuntu to maximize a window when i drag it to the top of the screen?
[22:47] <vino> lucid
[22:47] <Jax90> CharminTheMoose, Note - *I think*.  I haven't done this, I'm reading from sites.
[22:47] <Arjun> well its in wubi
[22:47] <magn3ts> How do Iget sound indicator to magically appear?
[22:47] <Arjun> so i cant edit it using something else
[22:47] <phiscibe> BlackDalek: just open the files directly or take grep off
[22:48] <phiscibe> cat /var/log/kern.log
[22:48] <Arjun> and when i boot into ubuntu it just has a blank screen
[22:48] <soulf> Arjun, oh, sry then I can't help you... I'm a pretty new user myself...
[22:48] <phiscibe> and cat /var/log/syslog
[22:48] <brian> i have no sound from my laptop speakers but when i plug in the headphones its fine
[22:48] <Arjun> oh ok, thanks for your help anyway!
[22:48] <peto_> How can I make Ubuntu 11.10 to not ask for a password when it returns from sleep?
[22:48] <Arjun> isnt there some sort of basic drivers mode in linux?
[22:49] <Arjun> or basic video driver mode
[22:49] <spickle> brian: try running "alsamixer" in a terminal. See if you can see anything weird
[22:49] <magn3ts> How do Iget sound indicator to magically appear?
[22:49] <Gentoo64> Arjun: you can get into console without nouveau or nvidia
[22:49] <devinus> does anybody know how to get the live CD boot splash from 11.10?
[22:49] <brian> seems all volumes are turned up all the way
[22:49] <CharminTheMoose> Jax90, phiscibe, Cool, cool, thanks for the info. I had tried that before and the error Xorg gave to me was complaining that it couldn't load the 'vmware' modules and aborted. Which is strange. Are they supposed to be installed?
[22:49] <Jax90> CharminTheMoose, phiscibe had it right.  Missed his reply, sorry
[22:49] <brian> i removed pulseaudio as well
[22:49] <Arjun> how do i do that>#
[22:49] <rob_> Brian, I've just joined.
[22:49] <rob_> What seems to be your problem?
[22:49] <phiscibe> does X give you Black screen??? does networking fail?  got logon issues????  you have one of a many bugs that u might be able to fix for now, but until they come with some fixxes its gonna limp allong
[22:49] <Gentoo64> Arjun: was this a clean install anyway?
[22:49] <rob_> Maybe we have the same issue.
[22:49] <NoVARaif> MonkeyDust: To clarify, rebooting into recovery mode, via hitting Escape during GRUB… Then choose one of the generic-pae (recovery mode) options, correct?  Then what?  Sorry, still learning more than I expected about Ubuntu :D
[22:49] <BlackDalek> phiscibe, without grepping anything, I get pages and pages of meanlingless stuff :(
[22:49] <Arjun> yes kinda
[22:49] <soulf> My wireless connection randomly disconnects unless I'm very close to my router. My wireless card is atheros AR9285 using the ath9k driver on ubuntu 11.10. Does anybody have an idea?
[22:50] <brian> no sound from laptop but sound from headphones
[22:50] <rob_> Soulf, you probably have a terrible wireless connection.
[22:50] <Gentoo64> Arjun: just reinstall it tbh
[22:50] <Arjun> although i spent a long time getting the internet working so i really dont want to reinstall
[22:50] <spickle> magn3ts: try running "indicator-sound" from terminal
[22:50] <Gentoo64> Arjun: ok
[22:50] <brian> alsamixer looks fine
[22:50] <brian> removed pulse audio
[22:50] <spickle> magn3ts: try running "indicator-sound-service" from terminal
[22:50] <magn3ts> spickle, it's the pkg name, but the exec doesn't have the same name, already tried it.
[22:50] <Arjun> how do i access terminal before it boots?
[22:50] <magn3ts> IS bash completion missing?
[22:50] <peto_> how could I access all system settings as in 11.04?
[22:50] <Gentoo64> Arjun: surely you know how to get it working now quickly?
[22:50] <phiscibe> : http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-10-problem-waiting-for-network-configuration-then-black-screen-solution/
[22:50] <soulf> rob_, I wish... but it worked on windows.
[22:50] <magn3ts> spickle, command not found
[22:51] <magn3ts> ii  indicator-sound                        0.7.8-0ubuntu1
[22:51] <spickle> magn3ts: yeah.. sorry.. no clue then
[22:51] <BlackDalek> I am out of time. I have to leave. 11.10 sucks and has killed my laptop.
[22:51] <wrrj> Assistance on operating QT programs in Ubuntu 11.10 is needed please... please reply to my nickname.
[22:51] <rob_> Hi folks. I realise this is a supersaturated channel.
[22:51] <rjyoung> soulf,  I have the same trouble different card and it's when I upgraded to 11.10
[22:51] <rob_> I've got a 5.1 onboard soundcard and a 5.1 setup.
[22:52] <Arjun> my drivers are quite weird with my laptop and i had to get someone else to install them for me so if i can just get to terminal i think i know how to take my graphics card off the blacklist
[22:52] <rob_> The 5.1 is apparently configurable through the 3 jacks at the back = Out / Mic / Line Out
[22:52] <Pici> !enter
[22:52] <rob_> But I cannot seem to get it to work at ALL
[22:52] <soulf> rob_, I had this problem before the update and on fedora 15 too... does your card use the ath9k driver too?
[22:52] <Gentoo64> Arjun: what happens when you boot normally?
[22:52] <phiscibe> CharminTheMoose: it is not a show stopper the vmware error, they changed the way ...I THINK xorg deals with a few things liek muti displays and reading eddid data from monitors, plus the video card manufacurers have strangness in the drives,  i dont know what to tell every one , its a STORM of failures
[22:52] <magn3ts> indicator-sound blowing up, any help http://paste.ubuntu.com/711454/
[22:52] <soulf> rjyoung, , I had this problem before the update and on fedora 15 too... does your card use the ath9k driver too?
[22:52] <rob_> soulf, I'm not sure. How might I check?
[22:53] <prodigalNoob> does ubuntu not auto-mount my ntfs storage disk!?
[22:53] <soulf> rob_, sorry wrong person :)
[22:53] <rob_> soulf, no troubles bubbles
[22:53] <prodigalNoob> do i *HAVE* to put it into fstab, or is there a setting in ubuntu to automount my movie/tv hdd?
[22:53] <rjyoung> soulf, dunno
[22:53] <kylesum> I'm using gnome shell whenever but it seems to be having some trouble playing nice with nautilus. When nautilus opens so does a global menu bar that conflicts with the gnome shell panel does anyone else have a problem like this?
[22:54] <phiscibe> for sound problems run alsamixer FIRST and use your Arrow Keys and the keyboard M to raise levels and unmute
[22:54] <Gentoo64> prodigalNoob: nautilus should mount it when clocked, otherwise use fstab
[22:54] <Gentoo64> clicked*
[22:54] <wrrj> Attempt 2: Assistance needed for Ubuntu 11.10 certain applications do not work. Please reply to my nickname or mention wrrj when assisting me. Thank you.
[22:54] <rob_> phiscibe, I have done that, and maxed all 6 channels.
[22:54] <phiscibe> prodigalNoob: there are bugs with fstab
[22:54] <phiscibe> all over the place
[22:54] <prodigalNoob> Gentoo64: yeah i'm finding that, but for example i have XBMC starting up by default, and want my movies accessible .... sucks i HAVE to do fstab even though it's detecting it
[22:54] <Gentoo64> wrrj: upgrade?
[22:54] <CharminTheMoose> phiscibe, just to clarify, I'm running 11.04, not 11.10. Like I said, Xorg -configure aborts 'cos it can't find the vmware modules, is there some trickery to make it skip those modules or should I just install them (if not already)?
[22:54] <magn3ts> OK, so if I killall indicator-sound-service and then start it right after, I get other stuff... it can't seem to contact PulseAudio or something
[22:54] <magn3ts> for god only knows why reason
[22:54] <soulf> rjyoung, type "sudo lspci -k" in the terminal and read the info at "network adapter"
[22:54] <prodigalNoob> phiscibe: so you're saying this is not desired? But I should be ok with adding the mount to fstab still right?
[22:54] <wrrj> Yes I did
[22:54] <Gentoo64> prodigalNoob: use fstab to have them loaded at boot
[22:55] <NoVARaif> MonkeyDust: When I chose a recovery mode @ GRUB, it dumps me to a command prompt… no menu
[22:55] <wrrj> my apps worked on the first boot of Ubuntu 11.10 and then boots after that these certain apps no longer work
[22:55] <phiscibe> CharminTheMoose: that is not an error but a warning   type locate xorg.conf.new   if it finds one that is what Xorg-configure created  u have to move it in to the /etc/X11 foder
[22:55] <Gentoo64> its a joke, thats why
[22:56] <improveupon> hello. i keep having to reinstall ubuntu. now, in unity, if i click on the home folder or the cd/dvd they never come up. dvd drive doesn't mount half the time. if i switch to gnome, might that help?
[22:56] <phiscibe> no prodigalNoob fstab is integral to linux, its just broken in so many ways now
[22:56] <rjyoung> soulf,  yep i am
[22:56] <prodigalNoob> phiscibe: yeah i'm familiar with fstab.. just not understanding why you're saying it's broken?
[22:56] <magn3ts> indicator-sound blowing up, any help http://paste.ubuntu.com/711454/
[22:57] <yagoo> hi
[22:57] <phiscibe> Everybody read here i am loggin as many bugs and possible fixes as i can there, its a mess gentoo arch ubuntu anything with gnome libraires and kde
[22:57] <phiscibe> http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/
[22:57] <ssfdre38> that is the command to build dep on xchat
[22:57] <TimLoal> hi guys.  I've been having reall trouble with ubuntu 11.10 with system lockups.  Can anyone recomend a version for my acer aspire 5930 with nvidia graphics card that will go smoothly and get me up and running quickly?    <<NEW QUESTION
[22:57] <yagoo> i'm using oneiric, and want to disable automounting of internal ntfs partition/s .. is ntfs-config still good for oneiric, or is there a better tool? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions)
[22:57] <ssfdre38> nvm
[22:57] <lordjj> so anyone knows anything about Linux Mint? Sounds to me like it's just Ubuntu + 5min of extra configuration.
[22:57] <phiscibe> prodigalNoob: because parts of the authentication system are dead, dbus can be dead
[22:58] <mickster04> !mint | lordjj
[22:58] <wrrj> Final attempt: Seriously I need assistance for Ubuntu 11.10... I run an internet radio station for my church and without assistance I cannot run it. Someone please reply to my nickname and don't just reply and leave. I'll be on for 2 more minutes unless someone replies.
[22:58] <soulf> rjyoung, there are some fixes out there that don't help me but might help you...
[22:58] <kirindave_> I don't mean to repeat, but I really need help. The ssh keys that Amazon EC2 generates seem to be of a format that ubuntu's ssh chokes on. I cannot generate new keypairs (these are distributed at work), how can I convert my existing keypairs? Is this not a question for #ubuntu? I know these keys files work on OSX.
[22:58] <yagoo> TimLoal, add this to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf  << add this line at the end  "blacklist nouveau" (omit the quotes)
[22:59] <yagoo> TimLoal, first see that you're not using nouveau of course..
[22:59] <mickster04> wrrj: why don't you use what you used previously?
[22:59] <Jax90> CharminTheMoose, I'm wondering whether it's possible to do this using keyboard shortcuts in system -> prefernces..
[22:59] <yagoo> TimLoal, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log (not in this channel)
[22:59] <rjyoung> soulf,  where at
[22:59] <wrrj> I cannot revert back at this point... I have reconfigured the station for 11.10
[22:59] <phiscibe> ther is as ureadhead bug affect the way multiproscers work that might case the fstab
[22:59] <TimLoal> yagoo can you tell me why?
[22:59] <phiscibe> I am so freaking out i just like last month put kubuntu on 5 systems, 4 for business
[23:00] <soulf> rjyoung, open this file with the command: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf and add: options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 . Save the file and reboot and test if it works...
[23:00] <yagoo> TimeRider, conflicts if u load the "nvidia" module..
[23:00] <mickster04> wrrj: well i can't help, i just don't know why you didn't do some testing first when doing such a mahor upgrade to such a major system
[23:00] <wrrj> ...problem lies within qt applications... they worked on first run of Ubuntu 11.10 but no longer work after that
[23:00] <yagoo> TimLoal, ^
[23:00] <yagoo> TimeLoal, conflicts if u load the "nvidia" module..
[23:00] <yagoo> TimLoal, sometimes X does not automatically unload nouveau..
[23:00] <wrrj> problem does not lie within station problem lies within qt
[23:00] <mickster04> !qt
[23:00] <TimLoal> X? yagoo
[23:00] <wrrj> ...do I reinstall? is it safe?
[23:00] <dym> hey - ive installed lucid from debootstrap on 2 Raid1 MD Drives with GPT - i cannot seem to get grub2 to install correctly. i keep getting /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no mapping exists for `md0'. - Anyone got an idea?
[23:01] <yagoo> TimLoal, you know how to use cli ?
[23:01] <yagoo> !cli
[23:01] <TimLoal> yagoo no, not yet
[23:01] <pooltable> hi looking for a easy way to compair viedo cards i not sure on what nvidia card i want and what to know what one to run rage game     also how to overclock the cpu step by step thanks ????
[23:02] <yagoo> TimLoal, that's fine..
[23:02] <phiscibe> prodigalNoob: ill try to summarize, there is a huge dbus problem that is resposible for tons of errors EVERYONE that has upgraded should try that fix first, for ANY issue
[23:02] <yagoo> TimLoal, it's basically 3 commands..
[23:02] <rjyoung> soulf,  i don't have that file no
[23:02] <phiscibe> Ubuntu 11.10 has migrated away from /var/run, /var/lock and /dev/shm and now uses /run, /run/lock and /run/shm instead (respectively). While the Ubuntu AppArmor packages and shipped policy have been adjusted for this, custom policy may need to be updated. The following may be used to aid in migration (it allows both the old and the new paths):
[23:02] <yagoo> TimLoal, install this--> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:02] <TimLoal> yagoo got that
[23:02] <soulf> rjyoung, then create it in that folder.
[23:02] <ocmsRzr> hi all, I'm trying to redefine unit-2d's window manager as stumpwm. I followed the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61419/change-the-window-manager-unity-2d-launches-on-login but it kicks me back to the login screen when I select my session. I'm wondering if I have to tell gnome about the alternative window manager how do you specify alternatives to gnome?
[23:02] <phiscibe> : http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-10-problem-waiting-for-network-configuration-then-black-screen-solution/
[23:03] <magn3ts> I'm not sure a single thing has worked right.
[23:03] <magn3ts> Banshee is crashing just like it does in 10.10
[23:03] <magn3ts> and 11.04
[23:03] <prodigalNoob> phiscibe: interesting.. ok.. so either way seems like fstab is my only option for automounting the internal ntfs drive... i figured ubuntu would have been updated enough to support that through some config :S
[23:03] <yagoo> TimLoal, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit -t myxlog          (and tell me the output)
[23:03] <magn3ts> compiz is already misrendering everything, unity has blown up with disper
[23:03] <phiscibe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441/comments/24
[23:04] <wilhart> d
[23:04] <phiscibe> those effect everything, everey system on the pc
[23:04] <phiscibe> prodigalNoob: you might be able to use cifs as a work around
[23:04] <yagoo> TimLoal, the log shows nothing about security.. don't worry.. there's no passwords in here..
[23:05] <phiscibe> but even if you do get it mounted, ntfs , fat 32 mounts are causing rampant cpu  utilazation and IO because of a rain storm of bugs
[23:05] <phiscibe> even ext4 has as bad journal writingt bug
[23:05] <yagoo> TimLoal, passwords are in /etc/shadow or /etc/passwd
[23:05] <Rickta59> I unfortunately just upgraded to 11.10 .. and quickly added the gnome fallback .. however I'm missing a bunch of things how do i get them back?
[23:05] <yagoo> TimLoal, you ok?
[23:05] <TimLoal> yagoo how dose this answer the original question?
[23:05] <wrrj> Asking... will it be safe to manually install GNOME on a Ubuntu 11.10 system? Will it possibly solve issues with QT applications? If not safe to install GNOME, will reinstallation of QT be safe?
[23:05] <yagoo> TimLoal, i'll explain later
[23:06] <rjyoung> soulf,  done..
[23:06] <soulf> My wireless connection randomly disconnects unless I'm very close to my router. My wireless card is atheros AR9285 using the ath9k driver on ubuntu 11.10 (it didn't have this problem on windows btw). Does anybody have an idea?
[23:06] <soulf> rjyoung, and?
[23:06] <phiscibe> QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths....EFFECTS log ons mounts and every single qt and kde app
[23:06] <TimLoal> yagoo no i have a headach from wasting two days on ubuntu, the quick easy os
[23:06] <rjyoung> restarting now
[23:06] <NoVARaif> MonkeyDust: I resolved the -5 error with apt-get by updating my resolve.conf file to include googles' DNS
[23:06] <soulf> rjyoung, have you rebooted yet?
[23:06] <yagoo> TimLoal, i've been using linux for ten years..
[23:06] <Rickta59> should I just roll back to 11.04?
[23:07] <yagoo> TimLoal, good luck..
[23:07] <Rickta59> why did they switch to Unity only?
[23:07] <phiscibe> also Ubuntu has used init.d to handle service startups forever, but now they are being replaced by upstart jobs, this is amess becuase have of the services dont start right
[23:07] <magn3ts> wait.
[23:07] <yagoo> Rickta59, to show off how easy it is
[23:07] <TimLoal> yagoo please explain now as io have a job to go to in an hour and i'll go back to windows if i am not convinced that there is a solution for me in the linux world, so better we have a quick conversation first
[23:07] <magn3ts> How do I get the unity launcher in the middle with a dual screen setup?
[23:07] <magn3ts> Please tell me htat it's not impossible?
[23:07] <Rickta59> easy .. ok ..not for me
[23:07] <yagoo> TimLoal, I already explained to you.
[23:07] <Rickta59> i hate it
[23:08] <yagoo> TimLoal, read everything i wrote to you.
[23:08] <Rickta59> is there a way to make the friggen icons smaller?   << The command i'm telling u about see the X log is seeing if you're using either nouveua or nvidia. If you're using nvidia.. then blacklist the nouveau
[23:08] <TimLoal> OK BYE LINUX WORLD  NO ONE CAN SAY I DIDN@T GIVE IT A GOOD TRY  THANKS TO THE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS CHANNEL THAT HAVE HELPED
[23:09] <Rickta59> but I'm missing things that used to be there
[23:09] <Rickta59> system menu
[23:09] <Rickta59> desktop hide all icon
[23:09] <qin> !caps | TimLoal
[23:09] <TimLoal> yagoo you didn't explain anything using my nick
[23:09] <yagoo> TimLoal, you want to fix it in 2 commands or not?
[23:09] <Rickta59> i was perfectly happy with the way it was .. o why o why did i upgrade
[23:10] <TimLoal> qin dont worry i'm out of here
[23:10] <yagoo> TimLoal, you would of fixed it by now.
[23:10] <yagoo> bye
[23:10] <yagoo> lol
[23:10] <phiscibe> prodigalNoob: sometimes addin uid=user,gid=users
[23:10] <TimeRider> hmmm - some people just don't really wanna listen/learn...
[23:10] <phiscibe> helpxs
[23:10] <TimLoal> ok yagoo as you put it like that i will give it a go,
[23:10] <yagoo> TimeRider, exactly.
[23:10] <Rickta59> so who decided that unity is the only game in town?
[23:10] <prodigalNoob> phiscibe: yup, i'll try that in a few.. right now for some reason my htpc won't go through my gateway
[23:10] <TimeRider> and if a typo on a name is enough to stop someone following advice... well....
[23:11] <wrrj> ...okay unless someone goes against this... I will attempt to install GNOME on Ubuntu 11.10 to see if the apps not working now will work again. 2 minutes to object.
[23:11] <rjyoung> soulf,  nope same
[23:11] <Rickta59> am I the only one to not like unity?
[23:11] <TimeRider> yay, bring in the gnome :)
[23:11] <Acfay> .org
[23:11] <qin> wrrj: Gnome2? Bad idea.
[23:11] <wrrj> Rickta59: No I hate it too
[23:11] <wiredfool> Rickta59: apparently not
[23:11] <TimeRider> definitely not
[23:11] <prodigalNoob> i'm wishing i installed xubuntu
[23:12] <TimeRider> time will tell, maybe there's more than meets the eye
[23:12] <TimLoal> yagoo you going to give me the first command ?
[23:12] <wrrj> No not GNOME2, GNOME3... is it possible? Or am I way ahead of the times is it even released yet?
[23:12] <Rickta59> so i wasn't really paying attention to what had changed .. and then did the upgrade I feel cheated
[23:12] <wiredfool> prodigalNoob: you can install xfce4 package
[23:12] <Rickta59> i can roll back but seems like I'm not alone
[23:12] <qin> wrrj: Gnome3? It is already installed.
[23:12] <prodigalNoob> wiredfool: yeah i know... but right now i'm workign on other things... trying to get through the gateway to the net
[23:12] <Rickta59> i searched google for unity sucks where is my ubuntu classic and got a lot of hits
[23:12] <yagoo> TimLoal, I already gave it to you.. cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit -t myxlog -- tell me the output
[23:12] <prodigalNoob> stopped working for some odd  reason
[23:12] <wrrj> How is that possible? I do not see an option for GUI for any gnome session.
[23:12] <rjyoung> soulf,  nope same
[23:13] <soulf> rjyoung, sorry then :/ ... you can try some other stuff but like installing the linux-backport modules, but I haven't tried it myself yet... honestly, I'm pretty pessimistic myself...
[23:13] <terry> I have a quick question. Is it possible to save a document in text editor as plain text? If so how many I be able to do that.
[23:13] <pooltable> i web site like can you run it for linux???
[23:13] <rjyoung> soulf, Ahhhh
[23:13] <yagoo> Rickta59, did u try -> apt-get install gnome-shell ? (and see other login menu entry)
[23:13] <TimeRider> yagoo : oh, and be careful with ya typing, waking me up at this time of night ;)
[23:13] <qin> wrrj: Unity, gnome-shell run on gnome3.
[23:13] <jiohdi> anyone know how to change the size of a moaning goat meter?
[23:13] <qin> !nounity | wrrj
[23:13] <soulf> rjyoung, I might just buy a usb wireless adapter if I can't find a way to fix it in the next few days. :(
[23:13] <airtonix> where does oneric store what used to be ~/.face.png ?
[23:14] <Rickta59> I did an: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback yagoo
[23:14] <wrrj> Hmm that doesn't make any sense that Unity is a part of GNOME 3... but will do what ubottu says
[23:14] <terry> Does anyone know how to make plain text in gedit?
[23:15] <yagoo> Rickta59, i believe apt-get install gnome-shell may be better
[23:15] <pooltable> rickta cwn you send a pic of you desktop please to me
[23:15] <sarkis> hey guys any work around yet for the issues with soundblaster X-Fi?
[23:15] <wrrj> terry I've done it all the time... just save as filename with .txt after it.
[23:15] <Rickta59> k thanks yagoo trying that now
[23:15] <rjyoung> soulf, Yeah.......my mouse is giving me trouble too
[23:15] <qin> terry: echo "that is plain text" > textfile. gedit do that by default.
[23:16] <sarkis> ever since i installed 11.10 my sound is not working properly, it plays every other second of sound
[23:16] <beaker__> unity is a shell that runs on top of gnome3
[23:16] <ocmsRzr> hi all, I'm trying to redefine unit-2d's window manager as
[23:16] <ocmsRzr> 	  stumpwm. I followed the instructions here:
[23:16] <ocmsRzr> 	  http://askubuntu.com/questions/61419/change-the-window-manager-unity-2d-launches-on-login
[23:16] <ocmsRzr> 	  but it kicks me back to the login screen when I select my
[23:16] <terry> qin sorry I just now noticed it on the bottom. I need to look more carefully.
[23:16] <FloodBot1> ocmsRzr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:16] <ocmsRzr> 	  session. I'm wondering if I have to tell gnome about the alternative
[23:16] <ocmsRzr> 	  window manager how do you specify alternatives to gnome?
[23:16] <soulf> My wireless connection randomly disconnects unless I'm very close to my router. My wireless card is atheros AR9285 using the ath9k driver on ubuntu 11.10 (it didn't have this problem on windows btw). Does anybody have an idea?
[23:16] <emr7240> Can anyone help me mount my external HD?
[23:16] <yagoo> Rickta59, keep the gnome-fallbacksession as well..
[23:16] <rjyoung> soulf,  what program are you using...
[23:17] <yagoo> Rickta59, i've noticed gnome-shell added a new entry for me on top of Gnome classic
[23:17] <wrrj> emr7240 what's the problem? Won't mount? Need to mount to specific location?
[23:17] <Caspase3> soulf, get the updated wireless driver from kernel.org
[23:17] <Rickta59> is that going to give me another menu item @ login yagoo?
[23:17] <magn3ts> OH COOL. The Sound Indicator still isn't running. That's cool, I didn't really want it to anyway.
[23:17] <sjefen6> How can I gain read write to my harddrives when using ubuntu live cd?
[23:17] <magn3ts> my Compiz shadows still screwed up? that's okay, I wanted them to be.
[23:17] <beaker__> emr7240 sudo mount /dev/sdax /mnt/y where x is the number of the drive and y is where you want to mount it
[23:17] <soulf> rjyoung, do you mean what irc client?
[23:17] <beaker__> sjefen6 mount the drive
[23:17] <qin> magn3ts: Are you using ccsm?
[23:17] <rjyoung> soulf, no like wicd
[23:18] <sjefen6> beaker__: how?
[23:18] <yagoo> What's this thing with the oneiric unity? I think Gnome logon looks better for desktops (not talking about gnome classic)
[23:18] <sje46> sjefen6 >:|
[23:18] <magn3ts> qin, yes
[23:18] <emr7240> Well it worked fine till I was extracting a rar file and it went crazy
[23:18] <prodigalNoob> anyone have a docs/talk about how compiz is used in 11.10? I'm just not seeing it
[23:18] <TimLoal> yagoo  gnome-terminal wont even run
[23:18] <beaker__> sjefen6 sudo mount /dev/{yourdrive} /{somelocation}
[23:18] <soulf> rjyoung, oh just the default one.
[23:18] <emr7240> now it wont mount...think the partition is corrupt
[23:18] <sjefen6> beaker__: I have tried in disk util
[23:18] <wrrj> emr7240 ahh... restart HD? Computer? Unplug replug? HD might have failed with the rar and got corrupted
[23:18] <magn3ts> Can someone, please, please, please help me get the indicator-sound package working
[23:18] <qin> magn3ts: With unity and gnome-shell it make wired things, which is logical since both interfaces are quite new.
[23:19] <TimLoal> yago and ubuntu is killing my HD  (constant activity)
[23:19] <yagoo> TimLoal, are you trying plain console? That's what u should be using because your current X is unreliable.
[23:19] <beaker__> sjefen6 sometimes you can just open nautilus and click it and it will automount
[23:19] <yagoo> TimLoal, ctl-alt-f1
[23:19] <Rickta59> hmm yagoo .. that is no better
[23:19] <rahduke> hey i just upgraded to 11.10, I was running emerald themes in 11.04 but now I want to remove them, so i went into compiz manager and removed the emerald--replace command but now I have no window decoration. How do I set it back to default to get the ambiance theme window decorations??
[23:19] <sjefen6> beaker__: yeah, bit I a unable to write
[23:19] <magn3ts> qin, unity's not that new, it's been in dev for over a year and has already seen a result. this is straight up a bug in compiz, and has been for some time, like several ohter large scale bugs.
[23:19] <soulf> Caspase3, is that the linux-backport modules?
[23:19] <lordjj> TimLoal how's that? Terminal won't run? oh and rmmbr to cntrl alt f7 to come back :P
[23:19] <yagoo> Rickta59, for me it is is.. comparing it just to unity.. but I still prefer classic over the two
[23:19] <magn3ts> And now my sound-indicator won't show up, who knows why, apparently no one here.
[23:20] <qin> magn3ts: ok, sorry, gnome3 is new.
[23:20] <beaker__> sjefen6 sudo umount /dev/{yourdrive} then sudo mount -rw /dev/{yourdive} /{somelocation}
[23:20] <wrrj> magn3ts using gnome shell or Unity?
[23:20] <Caspase3> soulf, from here http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[23:20] <TimLoal> yago thats just scrolling up the screen failed command READ FPDMA QUEUED
[23:21] <magn3ts> unity wrrj
[23:21] <rjyoung> soulf, ohhh well i think I running two network mangers.....because the little icon clock says device not ready...but wicd says connect and I havn't disconnected
[23:21] <yagoo> qin, is the gnome-classic menu entry considered gnome3? (i dont know where the rt-click add applet context menu went-- or is this just a ubuntu thing)
[23:21] <magn3ts> yagoo, doesn't exist anymore.
[23:21] <soulf> Caspase3, okay thanks
[23:21] <magn3ts> welcome the "new way"
[23:21] <TimLoal> yagoo can we go back to my original question, as fixing the current install I don't believe is an option
[23:21] <wrrj> Don't know how to get it back in unity unfortunately... only in gnome.
[23:21] <yagoo> magn3ts, can you be a little clearer? doesn't exist anymore just for ubuntu?
[23:21] <Caspase3> soulf, download the bleeding edge and follow instructions to compile the drivers
[23:22] <magn3ts> yagoo, yes.
[23:22] <magn3ts> yagoo, it doesn't exist in gnome3 period.
[23:22] <Pici> !gnome2
[23:22] <qin> yagoo: In lightdm? Above-right of text both of login screen.
[23:22] <soulf> rjyoung, I don't think wicd is included in the default installation, so probably yeah :)
[23:22] <sjefen6> beaker__: sudo nautilus seems to work
[23:23] <yagoo> magn3ts, what's with the nm-applets? or other applet names i see -- there a tool to add these to side bars?
[23:23] <johnjohn1011> is there a better way to configure users than the user mgmt tool?
[23:23] <magn3ts> yagoo, they do not exist.
[23:23] <magn3ts> yagoo, they aren't there, you can't add them, I don't know how to be more clear
[23:23] <yagoo> magn3ts, which nm-applet
[23:23] <qin> sjefen6: Should be: gksudo nautilus
[23:23] <TimLoal> yagoo for the benifit of the doubt i've killed the whole lot and rebooting
[23:23] <yagoo> magn3ts, I'm talking about the names i see.. with the dpkg
[23:23] <soulf> Caspase3, I remember I tried this on fedora15 a few weeks ago, but hey, I might as well try again ^^ How frequently are there changes?
[23:23] <magn3ts> yagoo, ????
[23:23] <yagoo> magn3ts, anyways.. i'll ask #gnome.. you sound very unclear..
[23:24] <magn3ts> yagoo, I'm answering your damn question
[23:24] <wrrj> Okay heading off to see if different session (either GNOME or KDE) will resolve issue with qt applications not working.