[14:50] <Kovert> DreadKnight: Dont understand your question
[14:50] <cense5> twitter maniac ? why ? :)
[14:51] <arshad> Dr_Wills i hav  done  without authentication
[14:51] <emma> developerNewbie: It is not advised that people go into root in a persistent way. But if you really feel that you need to do that you could try: sudo su
[14:51] <DreadKnight> cense5: you are using twitter like syntax for replying; start typing and use tab for autocompletion xD
[14:51] <arshad> KDE is loading
[14:51] <estan> i have a svn co http://foo command in a <pre> that is don't want to be turned into a link.
[14:51] <bazhang> emma, that is very bad advice
[14:51] <estan> s/is/i/
[14:51] <Kovert> Dread not int eh repros
[14:51] <BluesKaj> can someone in north america post his/her sources.list for intrepid , mine is badly corrupted and needs editing . I'm unable to login to kubuntu due to the fact that kdm and kubuntu-desktop were removed by mistake.
[14:51] <emma> bazhang: how come?
[14:51] <bazhang> developerNewbie, use sudo -i if you must
[14:52] <estan> oh damn. sorry wrong channel.
[14:52] <DreadKnight> Kovert: well, edit/setting.. and what should i configure out input/output stuff? can't get it right..
[14:52] <bazhang> emma, dont need root for ubuntu; sudo -i for a root shell (limited time)
[14:52] <Kaya_Saouka> Tried to remove Kubuntu to go back to ubuntu, by using apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop, but it's had no effect, how do I remove it?
[14:52] <Kovert> DreadKnight: never wondered about it seems to be based on alsa mixer
[14:52] <bazhang> !puregnome | Kaya_Saouka
[14:53] <DreadKnight> Kovert: yeah..
[14:53] <emma> bazhang: I'll make a note of that in case anyone else wants to do it.
[14:53] <Kaya_Saouka> Thanks
[14:53] <bazhang> np
[14:53] <Kovert> brb
[14:53] <emma> bazhang: I found a computer that someone left to be thrown away so I took it and I've been using it to explore other distros. I put slackware on it, so I found that you can become root in other ways.
[14:54] <bazhang> emma, that is slackware; many distros use su but ubuntu does not
[14:54] <cense5> thanks anyway
[14:54] <bazhang> ie fedora, suse etc
[14:55] <desu> bazhang: sudo is not distro specific :P
[14:55] <desu> it's just that htere's no entry by default in the sudoers file
[14:55] <emma> bazhang: What's the rationale in case people ask me?
[14:55] <bazhang> desu, true, though with ubuntu it is the 'ubuntu way' :)
[14:55] <bazhang> !sudo
[14:55] <bazhang> emma, ^^
[14:56] <desu> bazhang: yep :)
[14:57] <developerNewbie> still no sound is there anything else I can try?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> developerNewbie, have you setup kmix yet ...I don't know what you've tried cuz i just got here.
[15:00] <zbyszek> hi i have another seriuos problem
[15:00] <zbyszek> i tried to boot from alternate 8.04
[15:00] <zbyszek> and the installer asks me for a cdrom driver/.....
[15:00] <Kovert> dr_willis: gald YOU used mythtv :-)
[15:01] <Kovert> now I can go there and get it working
[15:01] <developerNewbie> kmix opens, the volumes are up on pcm and master, nothing is muted, soundcard used to work on linux and still works in windows.
[15:03] <reggy> how to mount bluetooth device thanks
[15:03] <DreadKnight> developerNewbie: kmix in intrepid seems to be fucking stupid....
[15:03] <DreadKnight> :/
[15:03] <developerNewbie> amarok: xine was unable to initialise any audio drivers
[15:03] <DreadKnight> sound recording used to work for me no headaches...
[15:04] <emma> bazhang: on the !sudo link it says to not use sudo -i
[15:04] <bazhang> emma, right
[15:04] <bazhang> emma, I said only if you must
[15:04] <bazhang> !noroot
[15:04] <emma> So pretty much the official ubuntu policy is always just use sudo
[15:04] <bazhang> yup
[15:06] <a_c_m> humm.... anyone know why my webcam would work in cheese, but not in skype or Camorama ?
[15:06] <emma> bazhang: if you start a root shell using one of the ways that's not recommended and then, while in # you do su <user>  to become a non-root-user, has the root shell closed?
[15:07] <bazhang> emma, first exit the root shell
[15:07] <bazhang> emma, you need to very careful with even sudo -i
[15:07] <bazhang> or gksudo/kdesu nautilus/konqueror
[15:08] <emma> bazhang: yes I see what happened there. I can see your point.
[15:08] <bazhang> it can seriously bork your system
[15:08] <emma> bazhang: doing one of the non-recommended ways to gain a # prompt, you now have opened a root shell. Just switching back to your normal user with: su <normaluser> opens another shell but does not close the root shell.
[15:08] <Kovert> how do i get to the "services page" as oppsed to the services kde page?
[15:08] <emma> Many people will not realise or remember to exit the shells they have created. I bet.
[15:09] <bazhang> emma, just dont enable the root account
[15:09] <bazhang> its much much safer that way
[15:10] <johannes__> !nvidia
[15:10] <tom_> hello
[15:11] <emma> There needs to be a better communication of the rationale for things like this or people who are full of the 'linux spirit' might feel like it's a bit 'do as I say not what you like'
[15:11] <bazhang> perhaps
[15:11] <bazhang> but most newer users just want a system that works
[15:11] <emma> Yeah.
[15:11] <bazhang> the linux spirit folks most likely are older hands who know su
[15:12] <emma> I will try to promote the ideas on the link in !sudo. I am trying to get more people to use ubuntu.
[15:12] <Kovert> how can i see a list of running services
[15:14] <emma> bazhang: I understand where you are coming from especially since you are coming at it from a support angle, largely to novice users. I have an interest in growing the ubuntu marketshare. That means not only making new users happy but hanging on to them as they learn about the rest of linux.
[15:15] <tom_> i did something stupid  (not the 1st time) I am running kubuntu 8.10 kde4 (of course) and i selected and confirmed in sys settings the menu setting for menu shadows etc   what config file does this reside in or how to return default desktop setting for kde4 back to default from command line
[15:15] <Kovert> Kovert: you can install burn to see whats running
[15:16] <Kovert> Kovert: uoi lasy dog bum not burn
[15:17] <xiasyad> im considering installing kubuntu inside windows, will that make it run slower than if i installed it regularly?
[15:17] <bazhang> SyriX, a bit yes
[15:17] <SyriX> ahh okay
[15:17] <bazhang> its more of a demo
[15:18] <bazhang> the dual boot install is nothing to worry about
[15:18] <SyriX> but it will still have all the same features right?
[15:18] <bazhang> SyriX, likely, though a tad slower; not sure about compiz
[15:18] <emma> bazhang: what about usb ports?
[15:19] <bazhang> emma, with wubi?
[15:19] <SyriX> ah koay bazhang
[15:19] <emma> Yeah
[15:19] <bazhang> should be fine
[15:19] <bazhang> SyriX, you might want to try virtualbox before you go for wubi
[15:19] <SyriX> mkay
[15:19] <bazhang> SyriX, then if you like do the full dual boot install with windows
[15:19] <Illusioneer> possibly stupid question, what is the library "kcm_konqhtml" part of?  i got it when looking at the plugins menu
[15:19] <emma> I have had some people tell me that with virtual machines you may not have access to your USB ports.
[15:20] <tom_> now the thing is it boots fine   so how do you reset reset system settings back to default from the command line
[15:20] <Kovert> anyone know how to start mysql
[15:20] <Roey> what does it imply when gcc complains "ULONG_MAX undeclared"
[15:20] <Roey> ?
[15:20] <bazhang> emma, that is the vbox-ose in the repos
[15:21] <SyriX> is it possible (with a regular install) to make windows able to read the kubuntu hdd?
[15:21] <courtjesterg> notice in the adept the hardware drivers after you open it up says no hardware drivers are installed is ti broke or am i running  my computer like a mircle
[15:22] <mitsarionas> SyriX: afaik you need an ext2 driver
[15:22] <SyriX> okay, is that easily done?
[15:22] <Illusioneer> error says "The shared library kcm_konqhtml was not found"
[15:23] <mitsarionas> SyriX: i think the page is www.fs-driver.org
[15:23] <SyriX> thanks :)
[15:23] <mitsarionas> you just run the setup thing...
[15:23] <mitsarionas> and assign letters to partitions
[15:24] <courtjesterg> i was told at wine to ask how do i config my video graphics been to display
[15:24] <SyriX> okay, gonna burn the cd now :)
[15:24] <mitsarionas> have fun :)
[15:25] <courtjesterg> i got this error when i opened up x.org nivida adept:[15:26] <courtjesterg> >
[15:28] <mitsarionas> courtjesterg: if you're trying to install the nvidia drivers, envy-ng is an easy way to do so
[15:29] <courtjesterg> ok i'll search the adept and the net thanks
[15:30] <courtjesterg> its not in the adept
[15:30] <pucko-> Anyone else having problem accessing usb cameras since kde 4.1.3 update? (it worked fine with 4.1.2)
[15:31] <mitsarionas> courtjesterg: uh, sorry... it's envyng (without the -)
[15:31] <mitsarionas> there's envyng-core and two guis, -gtk and -qt
[15:32] <emma> pucko-: how are you getting the kde4.1.3 update? I don't see any updates and I just did a fresh install of kubuntu intrepid.
[15:33] <pucko-> emma, I think I got it from the backports repository
[15:33] <emma> Hm. I wonder if I should add that to my sources.list
[15:33] <pucko-> not if you want to connect an usb camera :)
[15:34] <anubis_> Wts the command to see my connection details? commands ect..
[15:34] <anubis_> i mean ip ect
[15:34] <bazhang> anubis_, connections for what
[15:34] <emma> anubis_: connection details? you mean like ifconfig?
[15:35] <bazhang> ifconfig
[15:35] <mitsarionas> pucko-: just installed cheese, seems quite buggy, though last time i used it was on hardy
[15:35] <anubis_> yeah thats what i was
[15:35] <anubis_> thx  :D
[15:35] <emma> no problem
[15:35] <courtjesterg> i look the gtk and qt up they talk about file sharing not video cards and such i believe it is my video card when i use wine and the go to instal with the .exe i come to a black screen? SInce i am using wine am i suppose to install the directx drivers and such which would lose all its purpose with not using windows really
[15:36] <Ash-Fox> Hello, I've been following different howtos on openvpn.net, specifically, http://openvpn.net/static.html and http://openvpn.net/howto.html#redirect - I've followed the directions stated, but for some reason, the default gateway on the client won't set to the IP address of the server on the VPN.
[15:36] <Ash-Fox> These are the configs I'm using http://pastebin.com/d509e0c02 - Can anyone advise me?
[15:37] <courtjesterg> found on the interent
[15:37] <Roey> Ash-Fox:  you sound like one of those artists on deviantart
[15:37] <Ash-Fox> Roey, uh, okay/
[15:38] <HappySmileMan> Hey probably gonna switch backto kubuntu today, is there a way to get the trunk builds of KDE4.2 installed? Or at least a way to use the Betas when they're ready?
[15:38] <HappySmileMan> Goggling only finds stuff about Hardy
[15:39] <Pliskin> hello, does someone know why there isn't powerdevil when installing KDE4-neon ?
[15:39] <HappySmileMan> googling*
[15:39] <emma> HappySmileMan: perhaps adding the backports line to your sources.list
[15:39] <Tm_T> HappySmileMan: no betas released yet
[15:39] <Pliskin> HappySmileMan : Project-Neon ?
[15:39] <emma> seems like some people in here have been able to update to 4.1.3
[15:40] <HappySmileMan> I know not yet, but when Beta1 is released I'd like to try it, should be released soon
[15:40] <HappySmileMan> By the end of this month
[15:41] <Pliskin> kubuntu devs always package the betas :)
[15:42] <emma> Do users of Kubuntu have access to newer software than users of Ubuntu?
[15:42] <HappySmileMan> Ok cool, time to abandon Mandriva and go back to Kubuntu, dunno why but I always hate the package managers on other distros
[15:47] <Pliskin> emma : no, you will have to add the ppa repo to have the beta I guess
[15:48] <HappySmileMan> Oh wait... There's no NVidia driver for my card yet for Intrepid... Maybe I'll wait
[15:49] <courtjesterg> with this Download of Envy which one am i suppose to download i use kubuntu but understand the relationship between ubuntu they have core gtk and qt i sun it off my harddrive
[15:50] <zeltak> did you find anything regrading power-devil?
[15:51] <Tm_T> !envy | courtjesterg
[15:51] <Tm_T> FYI
[15:52] <starenka> Hi! anybody fancy help migrate my system from on hdd to another?
[15:53] <starenka> i just though it wou;d be easy as copying the data, but f.e as the second hdd is mounted and in /dev it starts copying those files too :)
[15:53] <bazhang> !cloning | starenka
[15:55] <starenka> bazhang: well, but it only replicates packages, how about settings (not speaking about /home which i have on other partition)
[16:06] <starenka> ohkay 'dd' should be my friend i guess
[16:07] <bazhang> yeah that is the best option
[16:07] <Ash-Fox> I keep rereading this, http://openvpn.net/howto.html#redirect - but, I cannot see what I have done wrong with my configs, http://pastebin.com/d509e0c02 connections just are not routing through the VPN by default - any ideas?
[16:15] <prateek> !automate
[16:18] <CyD> starenka: if you don't want it copying /dev, boot into a livecd so your filesystem isn't live
[16:18] <starenka> my cdrom is broken ;)
[16:18] <CyD> in the livecd, you'd again have the option of using gparted to do partition moves starenka
[16:18] <CyD> oh .. :)
[16:18] <CyD> bummer
[16:18] <starenka> well i think mounting / somewhere else as ro
[16:19] <starenka> and then copy it with dd ?
[16:19] <starenka> what would you say?
[16:20] <CyD> starenka: dunno, tricky
[16:20] <starenka> oh i cant use dd tho, the partition is not the same size... rsync?
[16:21] <CyD> starenka: another quick idea.. get a bootable flash drive
[16:21] <CyD> knoppix or such
[16:21] <CyD> starenka: you could always dd the entire drive, then resize partitions later with gparted :)
[16:21] <CyD> that'd be kinda nice cause you could dd the mbr
[16:22] <starenka> yep, but.... the new hdd is partitioned different way
[16:22] <CyD> just 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb'
[16:22] <CyD> yea, spose.. way different, not just bigger partitions?
[16:22] <CyD> you're sure making it difficult on yourself :)
[16:22] <starenka> well see
[16:22] <starenka> gimme a sec
[16:24] <starenka> http://pastebin.com/m2474c8a8
[16:24] <starenka> the 1st one is the source one the 2nd one the target one
[16:24] <starenka> i got
[16:24] <starenka> "/ /home /swap /data"
[16:25] <starenka> but the difference is in sizes and also primary / extended things as you see
[16:27] <CyD> yea
[16:27] <CyD> well, cp -a, omitting things like /dev, is going to be better than dd of course. probly as good as rsync,
[16:28] <CyD> the super easiest way would of course be fresh install :)
[16:28] <starenka> rly?
[16:28] <CyD> imo
[16:28] <starenka> i got shitloads of stuff configured different way
[16:28] <CyD> moving the data like /home is easy
[16:28] <CyD> well at least user configs will be safe in /home
[16:29] <CyD> i dunno it really depends of course
[16:29] <starenka> yep, but if i omit /dev
[16:29] <starenka> will the system then work?
[16:29] <CyD> actually i'd try with just coping the whole /
[16:29] <CyD> if it doesn't work, you haven't lost anything but ~10 mins
[16:29] <starenka> but how about other mounted things and symlinks?
[16:30] <starenka> it would copy those too, wouldnt it?
[16:30] <starenka> not good then
[16:30] <CyD> you'll have to modify your fstab on the new drive and run grub-install like we said yesterday
[16:30] <CyD> but i can't think of any other roadblocks
[16:30] <starenka> i tried copying /
[16:30] <CyD> cp -a?
[16:31] <CyD> that preserves permissions, symlinks etc
[16:31] <starenka> but i canceled when in started to copy /dev/sda6 which is the new hdd partition :)))
[16:31] <CyD> oh heheh :)
[16:31] <starenka> when it ;)
[16:31] <starenka> sooo
[16:31] <CyD> yea again too bad you can't use livecd
[16:31] <starenka> :)))
[16:31] <CyD> that is really the best way
[16:31] <CyD> :(
[16:31] <starenka> in what way it would live cd help?
[16:32] <starenka> (i can manage to steal my gfriends' cdrom)
[16:32] <CyD> starenka: well then you're not worrrying about copying /dev on a running filesystem and such
[16:32] <CyD> and running into taht prob of copying /dev/sda6 onto itself :)
[16:32] <CyD> basically if i had a livecd i could pack up my /dev/sda1 and unpack it wherever whenever to have my system back
[16:32] <starenka> well whats the difference... i need to mount those too on livecd, dont i?
[16:33] <CyD> yes, but you won't be copying the livecd filesystem
[16:33] <starenka> ooooooh
[16:33] <starenka> lol
[16:33] <starenka> silly me
[16:33] <starenka> :)))
[16:33] <starenka> ohkay
[16:33] <CyD> you'll be doing cp -a /media/sda2 /media/sdb2
[16:33] <CyD> etc :)
[16:33] <starenka> lol
[16:33] <starenka> easy one
[16:33] <starenka> will go for it
[16:33] <CyD> gl!
[16:34] <starenka> thanx a bunch, mate
[16:34] <CyD> it's quite a job you've set out, you'll be better for it in the end
[16:34] <CyD> learnin lots etc
[16:34] <CyD> yea np
[16:34] <ubuntu_> hi
[16:34] <starenka> one other thing
[16:34] <starenka> well, we will see... cya
[16:35] <starenka> CyD: cp -a means copy archive... what archive means? preserving atributes ?
[16:36] <ubuntu_> nejaky slovak??..
[16:36] <starenka> !cz | ubuntu_:
[16:37] <starenka> ubuntu_: kdyztak pis pm, pokud ti nevadi cestina
[16:37] <starenka> !sk | ubuntu_:
[16:37] <carrerasg> anyone can tell me where kdeinit4 gets it's list of executables to launch?  Removed nm-applet long ago and it still trys to launch it.
[16:38] <starenka> !kde4 | carrerasg
[16:38] <slow-motion> hi
[16:38] <carrerasg> thks starenka
[16:39] <starenka> np
[16:39] <inaety> how do i enable hardware acceleration in 8.10?
[16:39] <inaety> !nvidia
[16:42] <kiba> hi
[16:42] <kiba> hi
[16:43] <kiba> network is not working on the latest kernel version I have
[16:43] <kiba> <IP_ADDRESS> I think
[16:43] <kiba> I have no idea why but older version works fine
[16:44] <kiba> 2.6.24-16-generic
[16:45] <yago> does anyone has a problem with Ubuntu 8.10, When do I try open a video file, the terminal blocks
[16:45] <yago> can anyone help me?
[16:45] <kiba> that kernel I am using is fine
[16:46] <kiba> but later version is not fine
[16:49] <mopped> I need to install Windows to run some games, How can I create a partition within kubuntu?
[16:50] <draik> mopped: QTParted
[16:50] <ubuntu_> hi
[16:51] <mopped> ok, ill give it a whirl
[16:51] <ubuntu_> need help
[16:51] <kiba> can anybody help me with my hardware issue
[16:51] <kiba> ?
[16:51] <kiba> I have insprion 530
[16:51] <draik> !ask | ubuntu_
[16:51] <kiba> but the latest kernel image for some reason doesn't like my network
[16:51] <gael> use GParted
[16:51] <ubuntu_> why i dont have games?
[16:51] <draik> ubuntu_: What games?
[16:52] <MarcoPau> hello, I would like to set up alt-f1/2/3/4 keyboard shortcut to switch between desktops on kde4, as I used to have previously on kde3. can anybody help?
[16:52] <ubuntu_> the games that are in linux..
[16:52] <draik> MarcoPau: Go into your System Settings and choose Keyboard and Mouse. The 3rd tab on the side will help you out with your keyboard shortcuts
[16:52] <emma> I think what happens is that ubuntu is set as the default host name for people's instalations, and so they just retype it for the user name, and then when they click on some irc client and it drops them into 'ubuntu server' it gives them the default nick ubuntu to start with, which is being used, so it goes to ubuntu_
[16:53] <draik> ubuntu_: Did you install the package for the games?
[16:54] <ubuntu_> how can i do this:
[16:54] <kiba> ubuntu_: what games do you want?
[16:54] <draik> ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install kdegames
[16:54] <MarcoPau> thank you draik
[16:54] <ubuntu_> what is it?..
[16:54] <draik> MarcoPau: No problem. ;)
[16:55] <kiba> ubuntu_: new to linux?
[16:55] <ubuntu_> yes
[16:55] <MarcoPau> draik: just hacking around with kde4... need to get used it :)
[16:55] <kiba> hmm
[16:55] <kiba> so nobody with expertise on kernel images
[16:55] <draik> MarcoPau: I'm new to KDE4 as well.
[16:58] <mopped> Ok, I'm trying out gparted, and I'm guessing I need to unmount before I partition
[16:58] <mopped> wouldnt unmounting my current HD have horrific effects? :P
[16:59] <heret1c> hello.
[16:59] <heret1c>  My external cd/dvd writer malfunctions with error "Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0". What may be the cause? Worked fine in 8.04.
[16:59] <emma> mopped: you should not be using gparted on a running system, use it from in a live CD
[16:59] <draik> mopped: If you're not using the drive, you can unmount and do it. If you're on it, I would advise using a Live CD
[16:59] <starenka> CyD: hullo, it's starenka from livCD ;)
[17:00] <starenka> CyD: just one stupid question... i made "sudo cp -a /media/oldroot/ /media/newroot/" but it started to copy files to /media/newroot/oldroot... :))
[17:00] <starenka> CyD: help, the old noob, pls :))
[17:02] <heret1c> Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0
[17:02] <HappySmileMan> starenka: Yeah it'll do that since it's copying the folder oldroot, not just the contents
[17:02] <kiba> heyyyyyyyyyyyy
[17:02] <kiba> anybody can help with my kernel image issue?
[17:02] <HappySmileMan> I think cp -a /media/oldroot/* /media/newroot would work
[17:03] <starenka> HappySmileMan: so i do cp /smthng/*.* /somegre
[17:03] <starenka> hehe
[17:03] <starenka> ok same idea here :)) thanx
[17:04] <starenka> HappySmileMan: thanx. works like a charm
[17:04] <HappySmileMan> np
[17:04]  * heret1c waves his dvd i/o error in despair
[17:05] <starenka> heret1c: you at least have a semifunctional.... i've just stolen my griend's one :))
[17:05] <kiba> why nobody is willing to help me?
[17:06] <kiba> am I...obnixious?
[17:06] <starenka> you stink
[17:06] <heret1c> starenka: hah. it worked a charm in 8.04.
[17:06] <draik> kiba: heret1c: You'll get help when someone knows your answer.
[17:07] <heret1c> draik: ymmv.
[17:08] <heret1c> draik: provided someone happens to glance at the screen in the right time, yes. .)
[17:11] <heret1c> nasty character, that "peer".
[17:12] <starenka> heret1c: "netslipt" too :))
[17:12] <starenka> *split
[17:12] <starenka> CyD: damn, mate the copying will take hours :(
[17:13] <heret1c> starenka: censorship by entropy. 8)
[17:13] <starenka> heret1c: hehe
[17:14]  * heret1c waves his dvd i/o error in despair (again)
[17:15] <draik> heret1c: After doing a Google search with your error message... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726656
[17:17] <emma> Id like to have a serious opinion about the importance of how installing firefox installs gnome libs in kubuntu. Is that something that bothers any one else, should it not bother me?
[17:18] <heret1c> drauck. did cjeck www before coming here, mind. .)
[17:19] <Pliskin> emma : it installs gnome libs in intrepid o_O ?
[17:19] <HappySmileMan> emma: Bothers me too
[17:19] <HappySmileMan> Well I haven't done it, since I'm on Mandriva right now, but iot WILL bother me
[17:19] <bazhang> http://dot.kde.org/1143137575/1143152383/
[17:19] <bazhang> firefox-qt
[17:20] <HappySmileMan> Yeah but that's never gotten in any way usable
[17:20] <emma> Pliskin: yes it does. If you install firefox, by default it will install the recommended packages, and among those are a ton of GNOME libs.
[17:20] <Pliskin> then, the ubuntu MOTOs are definitely evil, or they don't know gnome is not the only existing DE
[17:21] <Pliskin> emma : oh, ok, but you can configure apt to install just the required packages I believe
[17:21] <emma> Pliskin: no let's not go that far. They are good and talented people, seriously don't disparage them, and it's not like every single one of them is in charge of firefox.
[17:21] <Pliskin> yeah, I was wrong
[17:21] <heret1c> draik: so putting "all_generic_ide=1" in menu.list should fix it?
[17:21] <emma> Pliskin: hardly anyone is going to know about that. How can ubuntu think that the typical user has to use sudo but the same typical user is going to know how to use a man page to find an esoteric option in aptitude?
[17:22] <draik> heret1c: I do not know. That is what I found online. It's answer.
[17:22] <Pliskin> emma : they talk about it in the install page (or the release notes)
[17:22] <Pliskin> it's a linux recomandation
[17:22] <Pliskin> and ubuntu always respect linux conventions
[17:22] <HappySmileMan> No updates to firefox-qt source in over 2 months :(
[17:22] <Pliskin> (sorry for my english)
[17:23] <emma> But worse, when I did: sudo aptitude -R install firefox, it did install firefox seemingly without so many gnome libs, but it looks funny and then you get gtk errors about how a file is missing, and you get errors from libbonoboui
[17:23] <Copelia> !fr
[17:24] <emma> There's nothing wrong with his English :)
[17:24] <Pliskin> HappySmileMan : yeah, it was a joke, like it was for kecko 4 years ago
[17:24] <emma> Is there any hope that we could get a version of Firefox for KDE 4 ?
[17:24] <HappySmileMan> Oh wauit
[17:24] <HappySmileMan> Last change was "merge with mozilla-central"
[17:24] <HappySmileMan> Qt support is now available from mozilla-central
[17:25] <HappySmileMan> According to some googling
[17:26] <lovre> hi all
[17:26] <lovre> i just installed kubuntu 8.10, and i dont have any sound. There is a sound at the login, but it is cut off and nothing is heard anymore. ...? what can i do?
[17:26] <emma> bazhang: the comments on the page you linked to are from 2006 and 2007
[17:27] <bazhang> emma, is this a support issue?
[17:27] <bazhang> or more of a chat issue?
[17:28] <emma> bazhang: support issue. How do we get firefox to work in kubuntu without filling our kubuntu with GNOME cruft
[17:28] <bazhang> emma, ff works fine in kde
[17:28] <emma> bazhang: did you install it yourself?
[17:28] <HappySmileMan> emma: Well apparently you can build FF from source with experimental QT support
[17:29] <HappySmileMan> SAomeone could probably package the latest one, but it's probably still really unstable
[17:29] <Pliskin> HappySmileMan : you mean XulRunner was ported or is it the same than before ?
[17:30] <emma> Does kubuntu need libbonoboui-2.so.0 ?
[17:30] <HappySmileMan> Not sure, as far as I know it's the same as mozilla-qt that was built for testing earlier this year, but hopefully it's a bit more stable since then
[17:30] <Pliskin> no, it's a gtk dep
[17:30] <emma> because now every time i start Firefox there is an error message from that package
[17:31] <Pliskin> but maybe firefox need it
[17:31] <emma> I think maybe KDE should just make their own web browser that works better than FireFox.
[17:31] <HappySmileMan> Anyway time to go install Kubuntu, bye
[17:32] <HappySmileMan> emma: Konqueror?
[17:32] <emma> HappySmileMan: doesn't seem to work as consistently well as firefox as a web browser.
[17:32] <Guest80812> anyone know how to setup a smb printer in kubuntu 8.10?
[17:32] <HappySmileMan> Yeha I agree, but then again, a web browser isn't their primary concern, they spent most of their time on the desktop and other apps
[17:33] <Copelia> !fr
[17:33] <lovre> hi all
[17:34] <Pliskin> emma : with the webkit kpart, it will be better I guess
[17:34] <lovre> just installed kubuntu 8.10, and i have no sound, except startup and shutdown sounds... what can i do?
[17:35] <emma> lovre: have you installed the codecs and kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[17:35] <heret1c> emma> there is one.
[17:35] <emma> heret1c: what's it called?
[17:36] <lovre> emma: i installed something, but not sure.. how do i do what you just said?
[17:37] <emma> lovre: at the prompt: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:37] <heret1c> emma> Firefox version 3.0.3
[17:37] <lovre> emma: it wasnt installed. do i need to logout
[17:38] <emma> heret1c: how do we get that on kubuntu, compile from source?
[17:38] <emma> lovre: no.
[17:38] <lovre> emma: still no sound
[17:38] <emma> lovre: wait for it to finish installing and then I will help you get the w32codecs you need to listen to some audio.
[17:38] <lovre> emma: i installed w32codecs...
[17:38] <emma> lovre: do you use a 32 bit or 64 bit .. hm.
[17:38] <lovre> emma: 32
[17:39] <emma> So you already got the w32codecs from medibuntu or some other source?
[17:40] <emma> lovre: what audio are you trying to hear? When you open amarok are you able to hear the welcome from Matthias Etrich?
[17:40] <lovre> emma: medibuntu i guess, followed this: http://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/10-things-you-should-do-immediately.html
[17:40] <lovre> emma: i cant hear the welcome :(
[17:40] <lovre> emma: it seems to play but i dont hear
[17:40] <emma> Hm.
[17:40] <rav> hello. i've been trying intrepid out, and i can't get my webcam to work. it worked well under hardy, using gspca. i tried installing gspca using module-assistant, but i can't compile the module.
[17:41] <emma> lovre: but you did have the audio at startup and shut down?
[17:42] <lovre> emma: yes
[17:43] <lovre> emma: i will try to logout /login and see if anything changes, be right back
[17:44] <francesca> ciao
[17:44] <emma> that was mighty quick
[17:45] <lovre> emma: still no sound
[17:47] <rav> does someone have bluetooth running under intrepid?
[17:47] <PhilRod> just upgraded to intrepid, and firefox (actually all GTK apps I think) says: "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries. Aborted". Any ideas? Google doesn't turn up much
[17:47] <ric> hello?
[17:48] <rav> PhilRod: a danger of upgrading. you probably have both qt3 and qt4 installed
[17:48] <PhilRod> rav: indeed I do. I was hoping they'd be put in different places so as not to get in each other's way
[17:49] <lovre> emma: i have solved it with help from: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097945.0
[17:49] <rav> PhilRod: i'd try uninstalling firefox and reinstalling it from intrepid repositories
[17:49] <lovre> emma: thank you for your time :)
[17:49] <PhilRod> rav: thanks, I'll try that
[17:49] <rav> PhilRod: I have KDE 3 programs running under KDE4, but I did a fresh intrepid install, and then installed the KDE3 apps
[17:50] <emma> lovre: oh that's great.
[17:50] <lovre> emma: thx :D
[17:51] <PhilRod> rav: yeah, kde3 apps run fine (I'm using konversation right now) - I guess it's something with gtk-qt-engine that's causing the issue
[17:52] <PhilRod> rav: anyway, thanks for the hint
[17:53] <anubis> is there a way to save my widget settings?
[17:54] <Saltire> !kde5
[17:55] <BrAndon22> excuse me, i just downloaded kubuntu 8.10 with kde4. may anyone suggest me a working way to get rid of the crappy gtk interface and have a good one?
[17:56] <HappySmileMan> The installer for Kubuntu isn't doing anything
[17:57] <HappySmileMan> It gets to where I select keyboard layout and then does nothing at all, I've waited like 5 minutes
[17:57] <BrAndon22> i mean, being gtk-based, amule looks like a windown 95 application under kubuntu with kde 4
[17:57] <rav> BrAndon22: System settings> Appeareance> GTK styles
[17:58] <rav> HappySmileMan: have you checked the CD for integrity?
[17:58] <HappySmileMan> rav: Yes, says it's fine
[17:59] <heret1c> BrAndon22: use system settings > appearance > gtk-wozzit to set "use kde style".
[17:59] <HappySmileMan> Seems to be using my external drive for some reason, I'll try disconnect that and install
[18:00] <rav> HappySmileMan: when i have trouble installing, i set the install options to safe graphics mode and acpi=off
[18:00] <BrAndon22> thnx rav n happystyleman.. just tried, but no result :(
[18:01] <HappySmileMan> You mean heret1c? I had problems of my own, heret1c was the one who suggested that :P
[18:01] <rav> HappySmileMan: F4 and F6 at the main screen
[18:02] <HappySmileMan> Yeha will try that now, disconnecting drive didn't help (not that I really expected it to
[18:02] <rav> BrAndon22: you probably have to restart all GTK applications
[18:03] <jappdev> I recently upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, and I now need to change my KDE3/QT3 theme, how can I do this in KDE4?
[18:03] <christian_> hey guys
[18:03] <rav> jappdev: System Settings>Appearance
[18:04] <christian_> did an update to 8.10 and have a small problem now
[18:04] <jappdev> rav: that will not change the kde3/qt3 apps apperance, only kde4/qt4
[18:05] <ptl> christian_: lucky you, many have updated to 8.10 and have lots of them :)
[18:05] <heret1c> christian_: welcome to the club. 8)
[18:05] <christian_> when i want to start a game in fullscreen with e.g 800x600 (defaultres 1280x1024) x server crashes
[18:05] <lovre> does anyone know why when i click NewDeviceNotifier to eject cd, it opens the tray and immediatelly closes it. doesnt give me time to take cd out...?
[18:05] <christian_> same here also
[18:05] <rav> jappdev: hmm... that's an interesting question
[18:05] <scopecreep> lovre:  thats the new dexterity check built in
[18:06] <christian_> lol
[18:06] <jappdev> i've read in other forums that you can launch the old config using 'kcmshell style' but that kcm module is not installed
[18:06] <rav> jappdev: i'd guess it'd have to be editing the config file
[18:06] <lovre> scopecreep: lol
[18:07] <christian_> btw, did updating work for you guys ? was buggy for me
[18:08] <scopecreep> i couldnt update from hardy to intrepid, but i just reinstalled cause my data is on a seperate partition
[18:08] <jappdev> rav: i don't mind poking around in vim at the config file, but i don't know where it is
[18:10] <lovre> KNetworkManager says that i am disconnected even tho i am connected, so firefox is starting up in offline mode. How do i fix this??
[18:12] <scopecreep> lovre: in firefox, file menu, work online
[18:13] <scopecreep> and i never got network manager to play nice with static ips
[18:14] <johannes__> this is awkward: using dolphin I can see my network printer and another pc (workgroup: workgroup) but my openfiler fileserver wont appear (though I can connect to it, when I type in its IP )
[18:15] <lovre> scopecreep: i know, but i cba to click on that everytime i start firefox.
[18:15] <scopecreep> thats odd indeed, im not sure.  backup your firefox profile and delete it maybe?
[18:17] <NielsE> hi, I´ve installed kubuntu-desktop, but now the knetworkmanager AND the networkmanager-applet are starting when I open kde, how can I solve this?
[18:18] <Edulix> hi
[18:18] <thomas__> hi ich heiss tom
[18:18] <scopecreep> so what part of network manager actually works as intended?
[18:19] <Edulix> I've got both gnash and flashplugin-nonfree, how I tell my system to use one or the other by default? dpkg-reconfigure or something like that?
[18:20] <Winolzz> hello guys . i would like to upgrade from my 8.04 to 8.10 . i already tried the  apt-get command, i have downloaded 239 MB of updates , but it looks like i'm still in 8.04 .
[18:20] <thomas__> was ist
[18:21] <thomas__> was ist
[18:22] <NielsE> scopecreep: everything works, but I have 2 network-manager applets, one from gnome, and one from kde
[18:22] <thomas__> warum verlassen
[18:22] <lovre> how do i make kubuntu remember what applications were active on shutdown so it can run them on startup?
[18:23] <NewbieUbuntu> hi
[18:23] <thomas__> hi
[18:23] <dylan_> hi
[18:23] <_ykram> hi
[18:24] <NewbieUbuntu> i am really shit my kubuntu and i don't know how
[18:24] <_ykram> you could put an entry in rc.local
[18:24] <NewbieUbuntu> so any sugestions are ok
[18:24] <dylan_> ? i am french ^
[18:24] <thomas__> geht mein pc hat was ich musik ohr
[18:24] <NewbieUbuntu> this is my problem when  i enter sudo samething the firs line is this
[18:24] <NewbieUbuntu> sudo: unable to resolve host alex
[18:25] <thomas__> nur dusch
[18:25] <NewbieUbuntu> i am using sony laptop and i need to apply one row to my sound config file
[18:25] <thomas__> bitte
[18:25] <NewbieUbuntu> and when i write
[18:25] <NewbieUbuntu> sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/sound ->it show me empty  file
[18:26] <NewbieUbuntu> can someone tell me how to fix this , because i don't want to reinstall everything again
[18:26] <thomas__> was  ist los
[18:26] <_ykram> unable to resolve .. edit your /etc/hosts
[18:27] <thomas__> ich bin ein bischen laute musik
[18:28] <NewbieUbuntu> i tryid with kate to open this file
[18:28] <NewbieUbuntu> it is empty
[18:29] <thomas__> dauna hat wiell wasser
[18:29] <scribbles> what do I do if my second hard drive isn't showing up in Dolphin? It was at one point and now its gone?
[18:30] <thomas__> ich 3 pc
[18:31] <Nillerz> Hello #kubuntu, I have an issue...
[18:31] <_ykram> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/sound .. alsaconf is not present so just make file yourself
[18:31] <Nillerz> I tried out the k desktop environment and didn't like it  so I purged all k software
[18:32] <christian_> mhh..folderview plasmoid is missing in my 8.10 installation..did i miss something ?
[18:32] <Nillerz> now it still shows like, remnants of k stuff all over, for example this text should appear black to me but it's not, it's light grey
[18:32] <Nillerz> Then there's the bar underneath the top bar on any window manager, should match GTK stuff or something but it's blue no matter what window manager I use
[18:32] <Nillerz> The theme I had on kde was blue before I uninstallde it
[18:32] <Nillerz> Is there any way to fix this?
[18:32] <NewbieUbuntu> _ykram what i must enter in this file
[18:33] <_ykram> alias snd-card-0 snd-mydriver emu10k1 options snd-emu10k1 index=0
[18:33] <_ykram> you must know name of mydriver
[18:35] <NewbieUbuntu> i have no idea
[18:38] <Nillerz> any thoughts?
[18:38] <Nillerz> I mean, kde is completely removed, not a single bit of k software is left.
[18:39] <Nillerz> so it has to have edited a universal file  that is used by all DMs
[18:40] <lovre> icons in my tray are kind of messed up, they dont show properly... did i understand there is problem with nvidia cards, can this be associated?
[18:41] <dennister> can anyone help me change my greeter/login screen from gdm to kdm?
[18:42] <dennister> i did try it a coupla weeks ago, and screwed itall up nicely
[18:42] <_ykram> anyone loaded kubuntu on aspire one
[18:42] <Tm_T> _ykram: I believe someone has
[18:43] <_ykram> just wondering if it went smooth as i will be trying it tonight :-)
[18:43] <Tm_T> then ask it, don't ask to ask (;)
[18:44] <dennister> can anyone help me change my greeter/login screen from gdm to kdm?
[18:46] <NielsE> how can I accomplisch that nm-applet does not start when I log into kde?
[18:52] <christian_> lovre: i also had this buggy icons
[18:52] <OxDeadC0de> dennister: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[18:52] <lovre> christian_: how did you solve it
[18:52] <OxDeadC0de> nielse: I personally uninstalled nm-applet for gnome
[18:53] <christian_> lovre: upgrade to kde 4.1.3 or disabling desktop effects
[18:53] <lovre> christian_: ill try it, thank you
[18:53] <lovre> christian_: how do i disable desktop effects ... :\
[18:53] <christian_> lovre: system-settings
[18:54] <lovre> christian_: ok thank you
[18:54] <dennister> OxDeadC0de: ty...will try
[18:54] <christian_> lovre: thelogout and login again
[18:55] <mc> hi! I'm on 8.10 I followed the steps in the ubuntu wiki but my function keys are still not working
[18:55] <mc> any ideas?
[18:55] <lovre> christian_: ok, brb
[18:56] <christian_> mc:keytouch
[18:57] <lovre> christian_: it seems ok now, i hope it stays that way. Thank you :)
[18:57] <christian_> lovre: no prob :-)
[18:59] <thomas__> hi
[19:00] <lovre> why doesnt Knetworkmanager detect my wired connection? It says disconnected. So when i run firefox it is in offline mode... any ideas?
[19:00] <thomas__> ich war bei mama
[19:00] <thomas__> ich bin aber nicht so lange da
[19:01] <White_Pelican> sorry thomas__ I don't speak German
[19:01] <mister-tea> !de
[19:01] <NielsE> OxDeadC0de: yeah, but I still want to use gnome also...
[19:02] <OxDeadC0de> nielse: i use the kde version of the applet in gnome, works fine in both
[19:02] <lovre> does dragon player support subtitles? and if yes, how do i add one to a movie?
[19:03] <arshad> Hi all
[19:03] <NielsE> OxDeadC0de: but I dont think knetworkmanager has vpn support, I think I´m going to remove the knetworkmanager and use nm-applet in kde
[19:03] <arshad> after installing Kubuntu ubuntu8.04 has gone slow
[19:04] <arshad> i had changed the settings of the processor settings option provided in the start
[19:04] <arshad> any suggestions or help Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[19:05] <OxDeadC0de> nielse there's a kde version of the nm-applet called network-manager-kde , I use that, not knetworkmanager, it's a kde version of the frontend to network manager and it works in kde and gnome just the same as the gnome one
[19:06] <mc> christian_: keytouch does not support the macbook keyboard
[19:06] <NielsE> yeah, just found out that its network-manager-kde :P, I did not know of it existance, so I assumed it was knetworkmanager I was running
[19:06] <OxDeadC0de> nielse but I had a problem with the gnome version not rendering properly before, which is why I switched, but after upgrading to 4.1.3 I probably don't have that problem now
[19:06] <mc> hi! I'm on 8.10 I followed the steps in the ubuntu wiki but my function keys are still not working. any ideas?
[19:06] <lovre> christian_: are you still here
[19:06] <NielsE> 4.1.3 is in the backport right?
[19:06] <OxDeadC0de> yea
[19:07] <NielsE> I think I´m going to try that one too, can you recommend it?
[19:07] <OxDeadC0de> well, honestly, plasma crashed on me a couple times in 4.1.3 (automatically restarted itself but still annoying), and it didn't in 4.1.2, but some other little bugs are gone I guess
[19:08] <trappist> I put icons on my taskbar and kde4 doesn't save them - if I restart, they're all gone.  am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?
[19:08] <OxDeadC0de> systray being one, it works - still has problems if you move it around or detach it from the panel tho
[19:08] <OxDeadC0de> how did you restart trappist? did you logout properly?
[19:08] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: no, just rebooted from the command line, is that the problem?
[19:09] <fouad> #kubuntu-fr
[19:09] <OxDeadC0de> if you don't loggout properly things won't get the "shutdown" signal in the way they want to in order to save their settings
[19:09] <lovre> what nvidia driver is safe to install? 177.80?
[19:09] <fouad> i like go to frenche room
[19:09] <fouad> please
[19:09] <OxDeadC0de> I'm using 177.80
[19:09] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: any problems?
[19:10] <christian_> lovre:yeah
[19:10] <fouad> qui parle francai ici
[19:10] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: makes sense, thanks
[19:10] <mister-tea> !fr
[19:10] <fouad> merci
[19:10] <OxDeadC0de> lovre: not real ones, had one problem with needing to define metamodes in my xorg.conf so it uses the right refresh rate when fullscreening certain 800x600 programs
[19:10] <lovre>  i have some bad stuff going on, my screen shows stuff that was previously shown, i guess pixels from card that are not overwritten yet..
[19:11] <OxDeadC0de> lovre: but that's my lcd's fault I think
[19:11] <christian_> mc: you can create your own kybaord files with keytouch
[19:11] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: how do i upgrade to 177.80?
[19:11] <starenka> anyone fancy help installing grub?
[19:11] <OxDeadC0de> lovre: i used the restriced hardware manager to install
[19:12] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: logging out did the trick, thanks.  next, I'm using knetworkmanager to connect to my wireless.  works fine, but it doesn't automatically connect when I log in.  you know of a way to do that?
[19:12] <bopferman> I am having a problem with a fresh install of Intrepid.  I login but when KDE is loading it stops on the harddrive icon and goes no further.  Any Ideas? Thanks!
[19:12] <mc> christian_: how?
[19:12] <OxDeadC0de> trappist dunno, since I use network-manager-kde, which does log me onto wifi automatically
[19:12] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: I'll check that out, thanks
[19:12] <busfahrer> bopferman: It can stay on that icon for quite a while, did you wait long enough?
[19:13] <bopferman> It has been on that icon for 15 minutes now
[19:13] <lovre> where is restricted hardware manager?
[19:14] <psyco> Anyone know how to make the clock 12 hours instead of 24 hours?
[19:14] <psyco> kubuntu 8.10***
[19:14] <OxDeadC0de> lovre: open konsole type: jocket-kde
[19:14] <xp-killer> how do i modif my smileys in kmess?
[19:14] <OxDeadC0de> er, lover: jockey-kde sry
[19:14] <OxDeadC0de> I seem to be having trouble typing..
[19:14] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: it's the same thing - or, knetworkmanager is the executable in the network-manager-kde package
[19:15] <christian_> mc: there is a utility callres keytouch-editor
[19:15] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: there is only version 173 and version 177 available here. I dont get any more choices
[19:15] <OxDeadC0de> 177 is 177.80..
[19:16] <OxDeadC0de> they don't maintain every version sry :/
[19:16] <HappySmileMan> Can someone tell me how to install firefox without pulling in all the Gnome libs?
[19:16] <OxDeadC0de> but this way is a lot easier to install them and keep them working after kernel upgrades
[19:16] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: when i go to Leave, dialog appears but the background is not clear, it is full of parts of windows that i opened earlier. Can i fix this bug?
[19:16] <xp-killer> how do i modif my smileys in kmess?
[19:17] <mc> christian_: keytouch-editor refuses to start up, it says it has not found any input devices
[19:17] <OxDeadC0de> lovre don't know I don't write video card drivers :/
[19:17] <lovre> does dragon player support subtitles? i cant find a way to use them
[19:17] <beta-guy> how do I manually request an IP address for eth0?
[19:17] <mc> ah nevermind
[19:17] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: do you have your wireless device in /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:17] <lovre> OxDeadC0de: lol, ok, thank you very much for your time
[19:17] <quentin> Can anyone tell me how to change (permanently) $TERM and why it is set by default to linux when the most obvious value would be xterm?
[19:17] <bopferman> I am not sure why my login stops at the harddrive icon
[19:17] <HappySmileMan> lovre: Yes dragoin player support subtitles
[19:18] <HappySmileMan> It's in one of the menus, hold on can't remember which
[19:18] <beta-guy> U sed to have knetworkmanager but accedentally had it removed now I can't get on internet :(
[19:18] <beta-guy> Used = I used
[19:18] <HappySmileMan> lovre: Oh it's in settings menu
[19:18] <bastones> Hi. I'm downloading Kubuntu right now and I'm wondering if I use NDISWrapper (if I need to use it) the same way I'd do so for Ubuntu?
[19:18] <HappySmileMan> bastones: Yes it should work the exact same
[19:19] <OxDeadC0de> trappist I just installed ndiswrapper, installed the win32 driver version of b43 (Have problems with b43 and performance), then started network manager, setup my connection - in the last screen up connection setup it has an "autoconnect" checkbox
[19:19] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl, when using kde4 on kubuntu my metakeys stopped working(volume up/down, key shortcuts which include the WIN key...)
[19:20] <s0undt3ch> how can I get that to work?
[19:20] <lovre> HappySmileMan: Settings->Subtitles is disabled.. gray button, cannot click on it... ?
[19:20] <bastones> I'm wondering if my Belkin F5D7050 will work natively on Kubuntu? I heard certain versions of the Belkin adapter work natively on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[19:20] <christian_> s0undt3ch: keytouch
[19:20] <HappySmileMan> lovre: I dunno then, working for me right now, but I'm using an OGM file, maybe it's not fully supported for all media types yet?
[19:20] <trappist> OxDeadC0de: ah!  found the autoconnect checkbox, thanks
[19:21] <s0undt3ch> christian_: is that a command?
[19:21] <s0undt3ch> package?»
[19:21] <christian_> s0undt3ch: package
[19:21] <lovre> HappySmileMan: ok, ty
[19:21] <s0undt3ch> christian_: k
[19:21] <johannes__> hi where is the file I can write commands into that should be performed at boot up? and where can I tell my pc not to interpret a touch one the touchpad as a left klick?
[19:21] <bopferman> does anyone know why kde would freeze on the harddrive icon while login?
[19:21] <mc> christian_: keytouch-editor does not work for me either
[19:22] <s0undt3ch> christian_: will that also solve my menu app shortcuts which include the windows meta key?
[19:22] <bastones> I'm wondering if my Belkin F5D7050 will work natively on Kubuntu? I heard certain versions of the Belkin adapter work natively on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[19:22] <mc> it says i should press one of the fn keys, but when I do so it does not react
[19:22] <mister-tea> !wifi | bastones
[19:22] <s0undt3ch> christian_: I had all this working when on kde4
[19:22] <s0undt3ch> err
[19:22] <s0undt3ch> kde3
[19:23] <bastones> I think my adapter is ver. 3 since the IC ID starts with 3
[19:23] <christian_> mc: when you press one of you fn keys, do you have entries in you /var/log/messages file ?
[19:23] <christian_> so, tail -f /var/log/messages and the press a fn key
[19:23] <acee12345> im trying to install raop-play but it needs the package libfltk1.1c102 . i tried apt-get it said  libfltk1.1 replaced that package but when i try to install the .deb it keeps looking for libfltk1.1c102. any ideas?
[19:23] <mister-tea> bastones check the link above and go to the supported hardware list
[19:23] <bastones> will do
[19:24] <lovre> how do i edit file associations?
[19:24] <christian_> lovre: system-settings
[19:24] <mc> christian_: no
[19:24] <lovre> christian_: stupid me, ty
[19:24] <christian_> mc:mhhh...
[19:26] <bastones> mister-tea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBelkin#USB it says here that some F5D7050 adapters work dependent on ver. I'm unsure how I can check what ver. adapter I have?
[19:26] <christian_> mc: start xev from a console and see if you get your keycod from it
[19:27] <mc> christian_: yeah get it
[19:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I am tired of all the stupid changes done from one version to the next.  If something is not broken, don't fix it! I can't eject my ipod cleanly unless I sudo, what gives?  Anybody seen this problem before?
[19:28] <christian_> mc: then try to ue those in keytouch-editor
[19:28] <Saftpackl> hi all
[19:28] <mc> christian_: where in the editor?
[19:28] <bastones> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBelkin#USB it says here that some F5D7050 adapters work dependent on ver. I'm unsure how I can check what ver. adapter I have?
[19:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> when I try to eject the ipod, it unmounts it but doesn't cleanly eject it.  I get: eject: unable to open `/dev/sdd2'
[19:28] <mc> the editor  halts at the step where I should press one of the fn keys
[19:29] <mister-tea> bastones sudo lshw
[19:29] <mister-tea> type that on treminal
[19:29] <mister-tea> terminal
[19:29] <bastones> while adapter is plugged in right?
[19:30] <mister-tea> yes
[19:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> How do I cleanly eject an iPod?
[19:30] <bastones> and it'll give me what?
[19:30] <mister-tea> hardware info
[19:30] <bastones> ok
[19:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> bastones, you can also do lsusb and look at the manufacturing device webpage and find out what version you have by the device id.
[19:31] <christian_> mc: when you try to use a already existing profile and configure that to your needs ?
[19:33] <Saftpackl> i am looking for a way to attach icons to removable disks in kde4, so i can better see which one of them i click on. is there an option in systemsettings or anywhere else, where i can define those icons?
[19:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> How can I change a permission on a command that already has rwxr-xr-x to work with normal users?
[19:34] <trappist> in kde4 is there a way to have numlock enabled automatically when I start up?  I could do it in kde3 but can't find that setting now
[19:34] <s0undt3ch> CoJaBo:
[19:35] <s0undt3ch> oops, sorry CoJaBo
[19:35] <CoJaBo> lol
[19:35] <johannes__> i want to run a command at startup where can I write it down?
[19:36] <s0undt3ch> CoJaBo: you don't know by any chance on how to enable Win+F(an app shortcut) to work on kde4 right?
[19:36] <Saftpackl> trappist: yes, if you go to the system settings -> mouse & keyboard you can set it on
[19:36] <s0undt3ch> CoJaBo: that shortcut is defined, but seems that the Win meta key is simply ignored
[19:36] <CoJaBo> KDE calls the Windows key "Super", IIRC.
[19:37] <trappist> Saftpackl: ah, thanks
[19:37] <Saftpackl> trappist: np
[19:37] <s0undt3ch> CoJaBo: ok, fine by me, how to get Super to be recognied?
[19:38] <s0undt3ch> worked on kde3
[19:39] <CoJaBo> I think its just a box to check, or press the key combo. Not in Linux right now, so I can't check..
[19:39] <trappist> Saftpackl: that only seems to have mouse stuff, and keyboard shortcuts, with nothing about numlock
[19:39] <courtjesterg> NICKSERV
[19:39] <courtjesterg> -NICKSERV
[19:39] <Saftpackl> trappist: hmm, have you updated to the latest version of kde4?
[19:40] <courtjesterg> Wheres courtney and brad now that i rem way back when it came to me
[19:40] <trappist> Saftpackl: I've updated to the latest available packages, if that's what you mean - I haven't like gone to kde.org and built from source
[19:41] <Saftpackl> trappist: no, didnt mean that, i havent done that, either :)
[19:41] <Saftpackl> trappist: well, thats weird, i got a tab "keyboard" and there i can choose Numlock on
[19:42] <villoni> !fr
[19:43] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: you're on kde4?
[19:43] <xp-killer> how do i modif my smileys in kmess?
[19:44] <xp-killer> how do i modif my shortcut keyboard that display the smileys in kmess?
[19:44] <s0undt3ch> arrrrg, although shortcuts have been made I have to enable them on khotkeys
[19:44] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: lol, yes :D
[19:45] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: I haven't seen a num-lock option so far
[19:45] <s0undt3ch> it's on, but it's led is off
[19:45] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: how do you get to your num-lock option?
[19:46] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: well, i got the german-language pack, but i dont think this would have any influence
[19:46] <Administrator_> .
[19:46] <s0undt3ch> system settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> ?
[19:46] <Saftpackl> then there are 3 tabs on the left
[19:46] <Saftpackl> the upper one says keyboard
[19:46] <xp-killer> how do i modif my shortcut keyboard that display the smileys in kmess?
[19:47] <nelsonstreet> .
[19:47] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: do you have intrepid?
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: ok, I have 2, mouse and keyboard shortcuts
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: yes
[19:47] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: me too...
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> upgraded from hardy
[19:47] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: me too :P
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> dam!
[19:49] <s0undt3ch> I have compiz running if that matters
[19:50] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: i dont have compiz, but i cant image it would matter.
[19:51] <s0undt3ch> as long as keys don't clash there won't be any issues, at least with kde3 there wasn't
[19:51] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: there seem to be 2 types of systemsettings in kde, 2 packages you can install, i got the "systemsettings", not the other one, maybe thats the difference
[19:52] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: the 2. one is "kde-systemsettings"
[19:53] <Saftpackl> a propos: is there a graphical package manager in kde4, like adept?
[19:53] <s0undt3ch> hmm
[19:54] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: the seccond is not available anymore
[19:54] <s0undt3ch> I have the first too
[19:54] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: weird
[19:54] <s0undt3ch> yeah
[19:55] <s0undt3ch> I could always delete my .kde dir, I'll try that latter
[19:56] <emilsedgh> Saftpackl: adept is ported to kde4
[19:56] <Saftpackl> emilsedgh: ah, thanks
[19:57] <s0undt3ch> now all I have to do is get the audio volume keys to work and the num-lock led too
[19:57] <emilsedgh> actually better thab porter, its re-written for kde4
[19:58] <emilsedgh> s/porter/port/
[19:58] <usuario> ola
[19:58] <usuario> ola
[19:58] <usuario> oie
[20:00] <batiste> Hello
[20:00] <Saftpackl> emilsedgh: nice
[20:01] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: i got systemsettings 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 :D
[20:01] <batiste> I have on intrepid... Kde is crashing very often. I have recent nvidia card with nv driver. Does somebody has a similar exprience?
[20:02] <Saftpackl> batiste: kde4?
[20:04] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: mee too
[20:04] <batiste> ...Just crashed...
[20:04] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: waaaa 8)
[20:05] <bopferman> After a clean install of intrepid 8.10 I cannot login.  It will freeze in various parts of the KDE loading screen.
[20:05] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: install the german language pack ;-)
[20:05] <batiste> How can I get some debug information on my crash?
[20:06] <DaBonBon> what's the way to use kde3 on intrepid 8.10?
[20:06] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: then I wouldn't understand anything ;)
[20:06] <s0undt3ch> English all the way although my mother language is Portuguese
[20:08] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: got no ideas anymore :P
[20:09] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: got kdemultimedia installed?
[20:09] <usuario> oie[
[20:09] <usuario> .kanclakd
[20:09] <usuario> açldfhgd
[20:09] <usuario> kgçgf
[20:09] <usuario> 666
[20:09] <usuario> 66
[20:09] <usuario> 66
[20:09] <usuario> 66
[20:09] <s0undt3ch> will anyone kick that usuario?
[20:09] <usuario> hola?
[20:09] <usuario> 666
[20:09] <usuario> criunbdmm
[20:09] <usuario> hwdada
[20:10] <usuario> qweeqwe
[20:10] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: nope
[20:11] <courtjesterg> so peeps whats up with this shockwave not compate how the heck am i suppose to listen to some tunes myspace or the web? Java is installed
[20:12] <batiste> kde 4.1 keep crashing randomly on my machine. What kind I do?
[20:12] <batiste> s/kind/can
[20:13] <courtjesterg> kiss your new os i am not reaceiving that maybe there is an update cause i've been up for 48 hrs working on getting this os right
[20:17] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidIbex/Beta/Kubuntu#KMix%20support%20for%20keyboard%20multimedia%20keys <- nope it does not work :)
[20:17] <HappySmileMan> So does anyone know how to install firefox without all the Gnome libs?
[20:20] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: so, does it matter to you, if the num light is on, or is it just important to be able to access the number-keys, that dont work, if you dont press the NUM key before?
[20:20] <laurent_> hi, i've got a annoying problem when playing video, there is a little slowdown every ~3 -4 seconds
[20:21] <laurent_> even vith dvd or divx, from the dvd or the harddisk
[20:21] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: becouse my NUM key-light isnt on, either, but the number keys are working
[20:21] <laurent_> it's a laptop with intel x3100 core 2 duo
[20:22] <s0undt3ch> Saftpackl: mine are working, but when I see that led off, I tend to turn it on ;)
[20:22] <s0undt3ch> so, then the numkeys stop working :)
[20:22] <Saftpackl> lol
[20:23] <Saftpackl> s0undt3ch: hmm, i dont think the light works, but there really is an auto-on on startup :)
[20:25] <pulaski> Hello, I'm looking all over for a solution to a noatun problem to no avail.  When I start noatun on my hardy 8.04 I get "Connecting/starting aRts soundserver failed. Make sure that artsd is configured properly." Can anyone suggest a solution?
[20:30] <RenzoreK> Anyone else having serious flash skipping issues in Kubuntu Intrepid Ibex? I didnt have this prob until I upgraded from Hardy
[20:31] <Rioting_pacifist> vi is retarded! i just want to edit a file and simply add some text to a line but typing it just doesnt work?!
[20:31] <HappySmileMan> Press escape, then i, then type
[20:32] <Rioting_pacifist> RenzoreK: is flash running nicer?
[20:32] <RenzoreK> Rioting_pacifist: What do u mean nicer?
[20:32] <Rioting_pacifist> erm with a higher value of nice, eg more than 1 may be causing the problem under high load
[20:33] <Rioting_pacifist> erm i mean 0
[20:36] <tacosarecool> hello
[20:38] <Illusioneer> hey, i have noticed an error with Konqueror4, it says that the various KCM plugins are missing, but they're installed.  is anybody else seeing this?  I'm using 8.10
[20:38] <tacosarecool> Some buttons are unresponsive
[20:39] <Rioting_pacifist> HappySmileMan: thanks i got added the text but ive ended up with loads of blank lines how do i get rid of them?
[20:39] <administrator_> hello
[20:40] <tacosarecool> !buttons responsive
[20:40] <tacosarecool> !buttons unresponsive
[20:41] <DaBonBon> anyone here using kde3 on kubuntu 8.10?
[20:41] <tacosarecool> How did you do that?
[20:41] <chrisruls00> I don't think you can do that.
[20:42] <tacosarecool> if you find .kde then change it to .kde4
[20:42] <tacosarecool> Maybe
[20:42] <Rioting_pacifist> theres a 3rd party repo but it means you cant install any kde4 programs
[20:42] <courtjesterg> Ok help fuguired out win about time to fix that problem now problem the web site throws back a php file which i have to open normally in windows it goes bye bye when i click on it but now kate wants to open it aaand or other programs  HELP need to play my game before they fire me
[20:43] <chrisruls00> I am currently having problem with the right-click meny of certian applications, namely konversation and k3b. The text will not appear in menus. Anyone else having this problem.
[20:43] <RenzoreK> Rioting_pacifist: The system is not under load, dont know why I would have to set its priority it has all system resources basically available
[20:44] <DaBonBon> Rioting_pacifist: why can't i install any kde4 programs/
[20:44] <DaBonBon> Rioting_pacifist: are you talking about the pearsoncomputing.net repository?
[20:44] <courtjesterg> i had one problem in konversation it went away apparently for now glitch
[20:44] <DaBonBon> are there any ceveats i should know before using that repo?
[20:45] <fiyawerx> !nvidia
[20:45] <courtjesterg> nvidia i got the place for you hold on
[20:45] <fiyawerx> Does the hardware drivers app work in kubuntu 8.10? whenever I click 'activate' it just sits there and doesn't do anything
[20:46] <tacosarecool> Me too
[20:46] <courtjesterg> here you go nvinda graphic drivers
[20:46] <tacosarecool> Wait till you try to use your webcam with flash
[20:46] <courtjesterg> http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A
[20:46] <Rioting_pacifist> im fairly sure, last time i read about installing kde3 on 8.10 anyway, that there are so many conflicts between the 3rd party repo and kde4 pacakges youd need to use another 3rd party repo for it to work
[20:46] <tacosarecool> It will not work on some sites
[20:46] <fiyawerx> courtjesterg: whats wrong with the nvidia drivers in the regular repos?
[20:47] <fiyawerx> is it a known bug with the hardware drivers application?
[20:47] <Rioting_pacifist> RenzoreK: i dont know on my computer i found that by default flash was niced to 3 or something and if i set it to 1 it was much more responive, there are also some problems with ati cards that i ran into
[20:48] <RenzoreK> Rioting_pacifist: Ill try that real quick, I have nvidia (which sometimes seems even worse) the two major brand of cards and neither work well in Linux
[20:48] <pulaski> join #kde
[20:48] <courtjesterg> this works http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A
[20:48] <fiyawerx> pulaski: who?
[20:49] <courtjesterg> i need info on how to runa php file please
[20:49] <Rioting_pacifist> RenzoreK: well the problems seam to be with the binary drivers, but with nvidia i used to find if i added enough crap to xorg.conf it seamed to work fine (was 2/3 years ago tho)
[20:50] <pulaski> fiyawerx: That's me I forgot the slash. I'm looking for noatun info?
[20:50] <RenzoreK> Rioting_pacifist: I cant complain because It works somewhat decent, not as bad as others, but for an 8600GT i was expecting it to run smoothly. At least it did before I made the move to linux lol
[20:52] <chrisruls00> Hello, I am having problem with the text and menu in some applications. These applications all use a KDE3.5 style, like konversation and k3b. I am assuming there is some 3.5 setting making this happen, where would I go to fix this?
[20:53] <marek_> hi i have a problem with alternate installation, it says it cannot find cdrom driver
[20:53] <marek_> what should i do?
[20:54] <pulaski> fiyawerx: I'm pulaski, I forgot the /.  I need some info ot artsd.  How do you get it? apt-get can't find the package named artsd....
[20:55] <tacosarecool> mute iesomething
[20:55] <tacosarecool> I had that problem I muted it and sound worked
[20:57] <lakis1982> does anyone use liquid weather as widget ???  i have a problem
[20:59] <lakis1982> i go to add widgets ..when i select to add liquid weather it says  : SuperKaramba cannot continue to run this theme.One or more of the required components of the Kross scripting architecture is not installed. Please consult this theme's documentation and install the necessary Kross components.
[21:05] <urias> oi
[21:18] <Rioting_pacifist> ?
[21:20] <lovre> hi
[21:20] <lovre> i have a situation
[21:21] <lovre> installed windows, lost grub. Now i installed grub again, and now it doesnt show windows anymore in the list, so i cant boot it. What can i do?
[21:22] <HappySmileMan> You can add the option yourself in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:23] <HappySmileMan> Not entirely sure if you'll need to change anything but mine is http://pastebin.com/m75cafdf7
[21:23] <HappySmileMan> Just add that to the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:23] <HappySmileMan> root line might need to be changed, depending on how it's partitioned
[21:23] <lovre> is this ok: http://pastebin.com/m246ea27d
[21:25] <lovre> what does "make active " do?
[21:25] <lovre> ill try it now, be back in a bit, thank you
[21:29] <lovre> not working
[21:29] <lovre> unsupported executable or something, error, cant load
[21:29] <lovre> damn
[21:32] <lovre> anyone? help? lost windows from grub list after install
[21:38] <bastones> Hi. I've installed Ubuntu and rebooted, now its saying "root@localhost:~# - what do I do from here?
[21:38] <bastones> kubuntu*
[21:40] <bastones> Hi. I've installed Kubuntu and rebooted, now its saying "root@localhost:~# - what do I do from here?
[21:41] <bastones> Hi. I've installed Kubuntu and rebooted, now its saying "root@localhost:~# - what do I do from here?
[21:42] <van> hello someone could help me out, i was trying to format a NTFS disk plug into my Kubuntu
[21:43] <van> someone could help me out
[21:43] <ahmos> !ask
[21:43] <van> i use mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 but after everything finish, my fdisk still reconise it as a NTFS how come?
[21:45] <cresco> having big probelms with ath0 device, can someone help
[21:45] <bastones> Hi. I've installed Kubuntu and rebooted, now its saying "root@localhost:~# - what do I do from here?
[21:46] <van> have you install the version Xwindows?
[21:46] <ahmos> bastones: try typing startx
[21:47] <bastones> its asking for localhost login: ? :S
[21:47] <ahmos> enter your user name then password
[21:48] <bastones> I have no user/password, I've only rebooted it from installation
[21:49] <bastones> any ideas?
[21:50] <GillesMM> what is the simple method to have mail command on my kubuntu station ?
[21:50] <ahmos> i don't know how you installed it without username and password
[21:52] <shiva> guys how can i change style for kde3 applications? i cannot install kcontrol...
[21:54] <shiva> any1?
[21:54] <c1sc0> hi shiva
[21:55] <shiva> hi.. so can anyone tell me how i can start kcmshell style for kde 3 apps? :)
[21:56] <sergio_> hola gente
[21:57] <sergio_> una pregunta
[21:57] <mister-t> !br
[21:57] <sergio_> como puedo config kde 4 y edit efect desckto
[21:58] <mister-t> !it
[21:58] <shiva> !es
[21:58] <shiva> :)
[21:58] <shiva> i think he speaks spanish
[21:59] <andylockran|lapt> hehe
[21:59] <mister-t>  :-)
[21:59] <andylockran|lapt> hey.  Can someone give me some advice.
[22:00] <andylockran|lapt> I've just switched to kubuntu (from ubuntu) so I could file some bug reports .etc.
[22:00] <andylockran|lapt> after listening to the latest ubuntu uk podcast it seemed you guys were having a hard time of it.
[22:00] <andylockran|lapt> so just thought I'd introduce myself :)
[22:00] <courtjesterg> hey every notice with amor in the adepts its suppose to give you hints but never does the boxs are empty i wouldn't mide try giving the little guys some artifical life
[22:01] <courtjesterg> i also could of swear someone made a virus once with that little thing
[22:01] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to fix a internet connection when the log out screen says network cannot connect to dbus
[22:02] <tacosarecool> Hmm
[22:02] <tacosarecool> Are you on wireless or ethernet
[22:02] <szrhawaii> its my friends comp
[22:02] <szrhawaii> we rebooted under a new os and the wireless button doesnt respond
[22:02] <szrhawaii> it says its enabled in the bios
[22:03] <szrhawaii> but then the software doesnt pick it up
[22:03] <tacosarecool> I don't remember what I did maybe disable network manager then enable
[22:04] <tacosarecool> But on laptop I just installed ubuntu but plan on install kubuntu
[22:04] <szrhawaii> i kubuntu better than ubuntu
[22:05] <szrhawaii> kubuntu is easier i think and comes with better features
[22:05] <szrhawaii> is anyone out there or do they just join in and look
[22:06] <lakis1982> can someone tell me any good rss reader for karamba ?
[22:06] <szrhawaii> what os you running
[22:07] <szrhawaii> are you on kubuntu ubuntu mythbuntu or xubunutu
[22:08] <szrhawaii> anyone home
try the sites that are givne for karamba
[22:09] <szrhawaii> like kde-loo.org, gnome-look.org, xfce-look.org
[22:11] <LimCore> what to type in konsole (inside running X) to set resolution to 800x600 ?
[22:12] <szrhawaii> i would think thats what your write
[22:13] <courtjesterg> does imap actually work with kmail takes so longer then pop3 in thunderbird
[22:14] <szrhawaii> so does anyone know how to connect a wireless when it wont even come on even after i checked the bios reset the settings and also tried doing configuring the network on the software
[22:14] <courtjesterg> i saw soemthing for wireless in the adept when i typed in usb
[22:15] <szrhawaii> does it fix a problem
[22:15] <courtjesterg> bets me i haven't gotten to my usb drivers yet
[22:15] <courtjesterg> they don't work
[22:15] <szrhawaii> because it was working then i rebooted using ubuntu then the wireless didnt work anymore
[22:16] <szrhawaii> but i upgraded to the kde version of ubuntu and now the graphic chip works but the wireless still wont come on when i press the button to come on
[22:16] <szrhawaii> the light doesnt even show
[22:17] <szrhawaii> your usb doesnt work
[22:17] <szrhawaii> court your usb doesnt work
[22:17] <courtjesterg> nope they don't work
[22:17] <szrhawaii> how did you manage that
[22:18] <szrhawaii> do you have a usb device that lights up when you plug it in
[22:18] <szrhawaii> then you can tell if its a software or hardeware problem
[22:18] <courtjesterg> leaveing s simple usb storage device in there there is power lights up its got music on it but sad see no notifications and don't know where it would be in the computere
[22:19] <courtjesterg> i've been up more then 48 hrs switching over for the first time ti kubuntu
[22:19] <courtjesterg> finally got wine to work now working on getting this game to work
[22:19] <courtjesterg> project vistor
[22:20] <szrhawaii> that wine system kind of sucks
[22:20] <szrhawaii> sometimes it conflicts with programs
[22:20] <henrik__> Hey everyone. Im having some problems with kubuntu 8.10 and vlc (and other fullscreen apps). When I watch a video in fullscreen mode, the screen flickers as my widgets updates.
[22:20] <courtjesterg> when it usually sends me a file then i click on it in windows and it dissappears turns out its a php. file and now kate opens it up
[22:20] <szrhawaii> not sure they fixed all the bugs out of it yet
[22:20] <courtjesterg> aand the game won't go ack!
[22:20] <henrik__> Does anyone have this problem?
[22:21] <szrhawaii> henrik you should just go back to the kubuntu 8.04.1
[22:21] <ytaggs> Hi, im new with kubuntu, have always used ubuntu and im a little lost
[22:21] <szrhawaii> that works better than the new version
[22:21] <courtjesterg> yeah when i pull the corner of a say browser and expand some times i got the envy graphic driver for nivivda installed
[22:21] <szrhawaii> court just take off the wine
[22:21] <henrik__> Bugger, I like the new versio ;)
[22:21] <szrhawaii> and use a generic version
[22:21] <courtjesterg> no wine is working fine
[22:21] <szrhawaii> thats good
[22:22] <courtjesterg> i was able to install the exe file
[22:22] <szrhawaii> ive had problems with it before
[22:22] <szrhawaii> after it uploads
[22:22] <ytaggs> could anybody explain me how to keep things like the applet for power managment and for the ethernet for loading a startup???
[22:22] <szrhawaii> ytaggs what are you lost in
[22:22] <tacosarecool> There's a bunch of web pages that aren't displaying right in kde4
[22:23] <Shurik2k5> hello guys. please recomend bittornet client for kubuntu 8.10
[22:23] <szrhawaii> go to adept manager and download superkaramba for now till you learn more on pluging in stuf ytaggs
[22:23] <courtjesterg> its jsut you go to the web site to lauch the site then click agree and opens to save another file or open either way its a php file that going down and wine doesn't have anything to do with php files so its a lancher of which i don't know what to do usually opens the game
[22:23] <ytaggs> ok...i'll check tank u...kde seems to be odd
[22:23] <szrhawaii> shurik you should have something called ktorrent under internet settings
[22:23] <mozzy> ktorrent works fine for me
[22:23] <tacosarecool> Transmission or wine utorrent
[22:24] <Shurik2k5> transmition crash few time
[22:24] <szrhawaii> ktorrent works really good with ark
[22:24] <szrhawaii> check your settings
[22:24] <Shurik2k5> what about deluge?
[22:24] <courtjesterg> yeah thsi imap for kamil doesn't work when trying to retrive your mail from gmail
[22:24] <courtjesterg> its still trying
[22:24] <ytaggs> in gnome i always used deluge
[22:24] <szrhawaii> ytaggs yeah at first it does but once you play with it youll get the hang of it
[22:24] <szrhawaii> check out kde-look.org also
[22:25] <szrhawaii> thats a tricky one
[22:26] <szrhawaii> which one do you have thunderbird
[22:26] <Shurik2k5> ok, thanks. And what about svn-client
[22:26] <Shurik2k5> gui svn-client -)
[22:26] <szrhawaii> not sure on that one
[22:28] <szrhawaii> if your new to kde i recommend you go to kde-look.org and check your adept manager if you need any programs
[22:28] <ytaggs> ok could someone please help me i dont want knetwork manager to launch each time i enter kubuntu...i hate having unnecesary thins on the system tray
[22:29] <ytaggs> ??
[22:29] <szrhawaii> go to adept manager in system and type in knetwork then right click and remove then apply
[22:30] <szrhawaii> then it should disappear out your life forever
[22:30] <ytaggs> ahh ok thank i
[22:30] <ytaggs> hehehe sorry im new to kde
[22:30] <szrhawaii> but make sure you have a network device running or it wont work later
[22:30] <szrhawaii> and you need it to use adept manager
[22:30] <ytaggs> how?
[22:31] <ytaggs> i mean if i close it i still have internet
[22:31] <szrhawaii> do you have a network device on it already
[22:31] <szrhawaii> besides that one
[22:31] <ytaggs> i dont know
[22:31] <ytaggs> what do u mean?
[22:31] <szrhawaii> did you do a full upgrade to kubuntu
[22:32] <szrhawaii> or just a partial
[22:32] <ytaggs> i formated and installed kubuntu
[22:32] <szrhawaii> did you do a full partition
[22:32] <ytaggs> one swap one root and one home
[22:32] <szrhawaii> or half kubuntu half ubuntu
[22:32] <ytaggs> only kubuntu
[22:32] <szrhawaii> ok then you need knetwork unless you download anothe network device
[22:33] <szrhawaii> otherwise you wont get wireless
[22:33] <ytaggs> ok, but i dont want it on the sistem tray
[22:33] <szrhawaii> or any other online thing also
[22:33] <ytaggs> i dont have wireless
[22:33] <szrhawaii> oh thats easy
[22:33] <ytaggs> how???
[22:34] <szrhawaii> just go to system tray and click system tray setting
[22:34] <szrhawaii> there should be a line and an arrow on the bottom
[22:34] <szrhawaii> click the arrow
[22:35] <szrhawaii> then it should say remove system tray change settings or move
[22:35] <tacosarecool> There's some pages that aren't displaying right in kde4
[22:35] <tacosarecool> Like stickam
[22:35] <ytaggs> now i want to have the system tray but i dont want knetwalk always there
[22:35] <tacosarecool> It's displaying the list weird
[22:35] <tacosarecool> when your on home page
[22:35] <ytaggs> do u understand??
[22:37] <szrhawaii> yeah when you click change settings
[22:37] <szrhawaii> or configure settinsg
[22:37] <ytaggs> im using kde 4.1
[22:37] <szrhawaii> then click knetwork
[22:37] <ytaggs> so i dont see what u r sayng
[22:37] <szrhawaii> ohh ok
[22:37] <alan_> sup yall
[22:37] <szrhawaii> i dont like that version
[22:38] <ytaggs> hahaha i think neither me
[22:38] <szrhawaii> hey
[22:38] <ytaggs> whats the best 3.5?
[22:38] <szrhawaii> yeah
[22:38] <szrhawaii> kde 3
[22:38] <szrhawaii> is better right now
[22:38] <alan_> Its more stable?
[22:38] <szrhawaii> they are still working the bugs on the 4
[22:38] <ytaggs> yeah i think it is more stable
[22:38] <szrhawaii> it is and its easier
[22:38] <alan_> Because i'm new and already had a few apps crash on me
[22:38] <szrhawaii> kde 4 is kind of confusing
[22:38] <ytaggs> and u r using hardy?
[22:38] <szrhawaii> yeah
[22:39] <ytaggs> well yeah
[22:39] <ytaggs> its better
[22:39] <ytaggs> intrepid its still full uof bugs
[22:39] <szrhawaii> i thought kde 4 was ok if you like the mac feel to it
[22:39] <szrhawaii> because its like that
[22:39] <szrhawaii> but i got restless of it and came back to kde 3
[22:39] <tacosarecool> KDE4 is nothing like mac it is more like vista
[22:40] <alan_> Yeah
[22:40] <ytaggs> i dont think....dont know i really like gnome, just wanted to give a try to kde and because never really liked  kde 3 so i tried 4
[22:40] <szrhawaii> its got some of the same features as mac os x leopard
[22:40] <ytaggs> but i think im coming back to gnome
[22:40] <kkerwin> Hi. Trying to run aticonfig to setup my radeon 9800 mobility on kernel 2.6.27-7-generic. aticonfig segfaults, complaining in the syslog: segfault at c ip 080539fd sp bfce1560 error 6 in aticonfig[8048000+34000]
[22:40] <szrhawaii> yeah everyone has their preferences
[22:41] <ytaggs> yup
[22:41] <szrhawaii> even xfce is kind of wierd to me
[22:41] <szrhawaii> i even tried myth with xfce also
[22:41] <alan_> Im kinda more used to Gnome,Just trying KDE out and see how it works and stuff.
[22:41] <courtjesterg> i got a question just open my web browser says it uses kde 4.12 but there is a 4.13 on the site
[22:41] <kkerwin> Oops. Make that Radeon 9600 mobility.
[22:41] <szrhawaii> dont worry about that court
[22:42] <courtjesterg> ok
[22:42] <szrhawaii> ytagg give yourself like a day to play with kde 4 before going back
[22:42] <szrhawaii> you never know
[22:43] <Alanz_> How fast are bugfixes available?
[22:43] <szrhawaii> i know sometimes i dont give other os a chance and then switch before figuring anything out much
[22:43] <szrhawaii> i even tried vista black edition for fun yesterday
[22:43] <szrhawaii> or windows black edition
[22:43] <ytaggs> szrhawaii //yeah u r right....anyway i have a question i closed knetworkmanager and im still here so i can uninstall it
[22:44] <ytaggs> ohh
[22:44] <ytaggs> of course i can
[22:44] <ytaggs> it just an applet
[22:44] <szrhawaii> if you want to you can
[22:44] <szrhawaii> yeah
[22:44] <ytaggs> i thougt it was a network manager
[22:44] <ytaggs> lol
[22:44] <Alanz_> lol
[22:44] <szrhawaii> it is if you delete it from your package manager
[22:44] <szrhawaii> not from your system try
[22:45] <ytaggs> what?
[22:45] <szrhawaii> your package manager all systems have them
[22:45] <ytaggs> yeah i know
[22:46] <tacosarecool> My flash player is being weird because some sites let me set settings for flash
[22:46] <tacosarecool> some don't
[22:46] <ytaggs> im sayng that i thougt that knetwormanager was the kde network manager...but in fact its just an applet for the network manager
[22:46] <szrhawaii> ohh ok
[22:46] <szrhawaii> got confused
[22:47] <blenderman345> Hello I need help installing Kubuntu
[22:47] <ytaggs> nevermind
[22:47] <blenderman345> ?
[22:47] <ytaggs> hi blenderman
[22:47] <ytaggs> whats your problem??
[22:47] <tacosarecool> You wanna reformat or what
[22:47] <szrhawaii> install
[22:47] <tacosarecool> guided install using whole disc
[22:48] <blenderman345> I'm partioning with the regular Ubutnu
[22:48] <szrhawaii> thats your best bet
[22:48] <tacosarecool> then
[22:48] <blenderman345> Ubuntu
[22:48] <szrhawaii> the o that
[22:48] <szrhawaii> do that
[22:48] <ytaggs> ubuntu or kubuntu??
[22:48] <szrhawaii> it gives you the option when you reboot
[22:48] <szrhawaii> to o half and half or the full thing
[22:48] <blenderman345> I'm installing Kubuntu 50/50 with Ubuntu
[22:48] <blenderman345> 50/50
[22:49] <ytaggs> ok so whats the problem u r having??
[22:49] <blenderman345> And it's stuck at 50% for 10 min
[22:49] <szrhawaii> then do that
[22:49] <szrhawaii> then do a full one
[22:49] <szrhawaii> just pick one
[22:49] <ytaggs> 50% of partioning??
[22:49] <blenderman345> I can't exactly do that cuz I gotta lot of stuff on Ubuntu
[22:49] <ytaggs> use the live cd
[22:49] <szrhawaii> then get a external and save it
[22:49] <szrhawaii> or the c works
[22:50] <szrhawaii> cd
[22:50] <blenderman345> And Just doing Kubuntu to use Blender. And some other KDE specials. Live CD used
[22:50] <ytaggs> blender?? the 3d modeling software?
[22:50] <blenderman345> Yep
[22:50] <szrhawaii> you can use anything gnome has on kde
[22:50] <ytaggs> u can use it in ubuntu
[22:51] <szrhawaii> yeah some you can on gnome
[22:51] <blenderman345> It no work on Ubuntu so I'm getting problems so blenderdevs said that I sould go Kubuntu for KDE
[22:51] <ytaggs> u can just install kde in ubuntu and log in a kde session
[22:51] <blenderman345> And I tried live cd and Kubuntu looks cooler. :)
[22:51] <szrhawaii> then go with that
[22:51] <szrhawaii> whats the hold up
[22:51] <szrhawaii> cant make up your mind
[22:51] <blenderman345> The install is stuck!
[22:52] <ytaggs> ok.. so your problem right now is??? didnt get it u r stuck at 50% of what??
[22:52] <blenderman345> At 50% of partitioning
[22:52] <ytaggs> ok, so try again
[22:52] <szrhawaii> turn it out a restart the whole process
[22:52] <blenderman345> Just a min
[22:52] <ytaggs> ohh partitioning the disl where ubuntu is??
[22:52] <blenderman345> omigosh working now
[22:52] <blenderman345> :(
[22:52] <ytaggs> lol
[22:52] <blenderman345> srry bout that
[22:52] <szrhawaii> lol
[22:52] <blenderman345> lol?
[22:53] <blenderman345> lol
[22:53] <ytaggs> it worked??
[22:53] <blenderman345> I don
[22:53] <blenderman345> 't know
[22:53] <blenderman345> yet
[22:53] <ytaggs> u sayd working
[22:53] <ytaggs> no?
[22:53] <blenderman345> I have to go through User name and everything
[22:53] <blenderman345> now
[22:53] <ytaggs> so its cool
[22:53] <blenderman345> then I can see
[22:53] <blenderman345> but I'm staying connected here in case.
[22:54] <Alanz_> Does Konqueror comes whit Java and flash player installed?
[22:54] <szrhawaii> its something
[22:54] <ytaggs> ok
[22:54] <szrhawaii> no
[22:54] <szrhawaii> alanz
[22:54] <ytaggs> no u have to install it
[22:54] <Alanz_> How do i install/enable them?
[22:54] <ytaggs> kubuntu restricted extras...
[22:54] <Alanz_> Oh
[22:54] <ytaggs> go to synaptic
[22:54] <Alanz_> thanks
[22:54] <ytaggs> u r welcome
[22:54] <szrhawaii> package manager
[22:55] <blenderman345> Uh guys is there a way to keep Ubuntu or Kubuntu without a password?
[22:55] <szrhawaii> ytaggs so you know anything about wireless buttons not working or turning on
[22:55] <szrhawaii> not really blender
[22:55] <blenderman345> It's the only annoying thing about all Ubuntu distros
[22:55] <ytaggs> nop...but u can do autologin
[22:55] <blenderman345> auto login?
[22:55] <ytaggs> believe me its better with a password
[22:56] <blenderman345> It's a family computer
[22:56] <blenderman345> and it's a desktop
[22:56] <szrhawaii> it remembers your password so you dont have to do it again
[22:56] <blenderman345> How do I do auto login?
[22:56] <ytaggs> yeah u can do that so when u torn on the computer it automatically enter in the os without asking the password
[22:56] <ytaggs> in kubuntu??
[22:56] <szrhawaii> if you want to you can go into the admin part and add users
[22:56] <ytaggs> or ubuntu?
[22:56] <Alanz_> Ok so i used Adept,and searched for Java,Theres a handful of them,Which one i choose?
[22:56] <szrhawaii> so they dont have to worry
[22:57] <szrhawaii> look for firefox or mozilla plugin
[22:57] <szrhawaii> opps thats for konqueror huh
[22:57] <ytaggs> just search for kubuntu restricted extras or restricted content
[22:57] <blenderman345> Actually, considering the odds, I've seen that one user is like 7x faster than 7 users
[22:57] <RobertLaptop> Anyone setup network manger to work with Verizon usb727?  I not finding anything on google but the hardware gets found so it looks like it is a mater of getting knetworkmanger to recognize it is there.
[22:57] <courtjesterg> nah kmail is working fine with imap i never expanded the folder for gmail wow 3000 spams in that folder ;0
[22:57] <szrhawaii> yeah than do that
[22:57] <blenderman345> One user is much faster, it's like that on Ubuntu and my Mac
[22:58] <courtjesterg> you can download the java directly from adobe now i've been wondering about a shockwave program of sorts
[22:58]  * andylockran|lapt is away: Gone away for now
[22:58] <ytaggs> blender u want to do autologin in kubu o ubunto?
[22:58] <szrhawaii> i use the password so no one can change admin stuff
[22:59] <szrhawaii> or root folders
[22:59]  * andylockran|lapt is back.
[22:59] <szrhawaii> ditch konqueror and download the firefox
[22:59] <blenderman345> oh forget it. I'll just leave it. :( It's such a pain
[22:59] <szrhawaii> it works better
[22:59] <blenderman345> Ok I gtg.
[23:00] <courtjesterg> i don't like using firefox anymore
[23:00] <szrhawaii> why is that
[23:00] <courtjesterg> wasusing that in windows
[23:00] <szrhawaii> thats different than using it here
[23:00] <szrhawaii> windows sucks anyways
[23:00] <ytaggs> blender
[23:00] <ytaggs> its really easy
[23:00] <courtjesterg> is it i was using thunderbird too
[23:00] <szrhawaii> he left ytaggs
[23:00] <ytaggs> ooh
[23:01] <courtjesterg> i want to stick it out with the browser that it ccame with
[23:01] <szrhawaii>  Ed Fella
[23:01] <szrhawaii> oops
[23:01] <courtjesterg> start developing this even more when i get settled down
[23:01] <szrhawaii> i like that browser for when im downloading stuff
[23:01] <szrhawaii> but i wuse firefox for surfing  the internet
[23:01] <courtjesterg> ever tryed sea monkey?
[23:02] <ytaggs> chrome rocks!
[23:02] <szrhawaii> yeah didnt like it
[23:02] <szrhawaii> any of you using comp fusion
[23:03] <ytaggs> yeah
[23:03] <courtjesterg> yeah well i am going to be looking for a good compiler i understadn kate does show good and such i want to dev
[23:03] <ytaggs> im using compiz
[23:03] <courtjesterg> make some money over here for my sweet in little programs since i am job less
[23:03] <ytaggs> by the way it gives me a lot of problem in kde 4.1
[23:03] <szrhawaii> compiz or fusion
[23:03] <szrhawaii> it does
[23:03] <ytaggs> u know...compiz-fusion
[23:03] <courtjesterg> what i want to do is make a game
[23:03] <ytaggs> would u send us one for free?
[23:04] <szrhawaii> use kate
[23:04] <szrhawaii> it works good
[23:04] <szrhawaii> she should post it so we can download it
[23:05] <courtjesterg> free beta is free i don't like the idea of monthly subscriptions believes in the game community and if you buy a game you should play it for free
[23:05] <courtjesterg> now upgrades is another story
[23:05] <holymoo> hey did you know in intrepid, if you just plug in a joystick, it controls the mouse?
[23:05] <courtjesterg> or add-in to be purchased for time render of my sweet
[23:05] <courtjesterg> sweat\
[23:06] <szrhawaii> and tears huh
[23:06] <courtjesterg> like 10six or pv you pay a sub to splay mean why you can also pay for extra jitter packs and stuff to help you out the jitters i think is a good idea but a monthly sub is bad
[23:06] <courtjesterg> halflife i love and hl2 how they embraced the community
[23:07] <ytaggs> szrhawaii im leaving tjank u for ur help
[23:09] <szrhawaii> no prob
[23:09] <szrhawaii> have a good one
[23:09] <tacosarecool> hello
[23:09] <tacosarecool> Ah
[23:09] <szrhawaii> hello
[23:09] <tacosarecool> Flash and kde4 don't work well together
[23:09] <szrhawaii> they dont
[23:09] <tacosarecool> Like some pages don't display right
[23:09] <szrhawaii> what are you using to display them
[23:10] <andylockran|lapt> can anyone recommend a good kde twitter/identi.ca poster ?
[23:10]  * HappySmileMan is building mozilla-qt
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Flash player 10
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Yeah
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Twhirl
[23:10] <szrhawaii> on kde
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Get the adobe air beta
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Then get twhirl
[23:10] <szrhawaii> you have wine
[23:10] <tacosarecool> No theres a adobe air beta for linux
[23:10] <tacosarecool> Works well
[23:11] <andylockran|lapt> tacosarecool: is that straight off the adobe site?
[23:11] <tacosarecool> Yep
[23:11] <amigrave> how can I use console8x16 in konsole 2.1 from kde 4.1.3 ? I activated bitmap fonts in fontconfig (can see the console8x16 in kcontrol) but I can select it in konsole
[23:11] <tacosarecool> Or google
[23:11] <tacosarecool> Then you will find the link
[23:11] <szrhawaii> link it up
[23:12] <tacosarecool> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/linux/
[23:14] <tacosarecool> http://www.twhirl.org/project/twhirl
[23:14] <andylockran|lapt> no way.. the twhirl website installs adobe air for me on linux.. using flash
[23:16] <tacosarecool> You must be on a windows version of flash then?
[23:16] <andylockran|lapt> tacosarecool: flashplugin-nonfree I think
[23:16] <tacosarecool> Or you can just use flash player 10
[23:16] <tacosarecool> On synaptic
[23:16] <tacosarecool> Or
[23:17] <tacosarecool> You can install manually
[23:17] <tacosarecool> If you want flock to have flash
[23:17] <HappySmileMan> Is it not horribly insecure that flash is allowed to install programs?
[23:17] <tacosarecool> It's not
[23:17] <tacosarecool> I think andy is lieing flash can't get abobe air on linux yet
[23:17] <andylockran|lapt> nope.. it started
[23:17] <andylockran|lapt> and failed :p
[23:18] <tacosarecool> Ok
[23:18] <tacosarecool> see
[23:18] <tacosarecool> You have to get air manually
[23:18] <szrhawaii> yep its manual for me too
[23:18] <HappySmileMan> No it did offer to install it, but then it fails
[23:18] <szrhawaii> gotta get the bin file and place it
[23:18] <HappySmileMan> Meaning it's probably allowe dinstall software on some platforms or something?
[23:18] <tacosarecool> right click it
[23:18] <szrhawaii> mine downloaded
[23:18] <tacosarecool> And then give it perm to execute
[23:18] <tacosarecool> permission
[23:19] <szrhawaii> thats easy
[23:21] <Fred_NewIntrepid> I did a fresh install on a old Toshiba Notebook I can't change screen resolution
[23:22] <Fred_NewIntrepid> The notebook supports 1024x768 and it is at 800x600
[23:23] <earthcreed> Can anyone point me to a resource on identifying how to install Nvidia drivers?  Jockey isn't working for me, hangs after I click activate.
[23:23] <andylockran|lapt> once I've downloaded the .air file.. how do I install it ?
[23:24] <szrhawaii> anyone know wireless troubleshooting good in here
[23:24] <tacosarecool> left click
[23:24] <Fred_NewIntrepid> How can I increase the resolution?
[23:24] <tacosarecool> That's all
[23:24] <szrhawaii> through terminal
[23:26] <szrhawaii> can i get a wireless troubleshooting person
[23:26] <szrhawaii> anyone
[23:26] <szrhawaii> good at troubleshooting wireless problems
[23:26] <earthcreed> What is your issue
[23:26] <szrhawaii> theres like ten million people in here and no one knows wireless
[23:26] <holymoo> why not just ask you questio nand see who answers
[23:27] <szrhawaii> i try to turn the wireless on manually and it doesnt turn on anymore
[23:27] <szrhawaii> the bios is good
[23:27] <earthcreed> Is it on when they computer is first turned on?
[23:27] <szrhawaii> the software is there
[23:27] <szrhawaii> but does not manually turn on anymore
[23:28] <szrhawaii> happened after i rebooted a new os in
[23:28] <szrhawaii> guess no one can help me on that
[23:28] <tacosarecool> Wait
[23:28] <lighti3ulb> I need some help with xorg and my synaptics touchpad
[23:29] <szrhawaii> thats the toughest question i swear
[23:29] <earthcreed> Intrepid has an issue where network manager will not turn on a new wireless device that wasn't on and recognized when the computer was started.
[23:29] <tacosarecool> The laptop is the wireless toggled on
[23:29] <RobertLaptop> Does anyone know what package I need to install so knetworkmanager can configuire a dailup connection?
[23:29] <szrhawaii> i try to turn it on but the light doesnt come on
[23:29] <szrhawaii> earth how do you solve that problem
[23:29] <szrhawaii> thats kind of what happened
[23:30] <earthcreed> You can't, (unless you wan't to mess with kernel level stuff).
[23:30] <lighti3ulb> Xorg sees that I have a synaptics touchpad, but there is no synaptics section in my xorg
[23:30] <szrhawaii> do you know how
[23:30] <earthcreed> Just make sure the device is on when the laptop is turned on.
[23:30] <lighti3ulb> Just adding someone else's synaptics section didn't work
[23:30] <szrhawaii> i know how to get into it i just need command prompts
[23:30] <szrhawaii> it wont even turn on
[23:31] <szrhawaii> i tried the bios i tried the software i tried rebooting and all the times same problem
[23:32] <szrhawaii> i even tried reloading the official product software
[23:32] <szrhawaii> and that didnt even want to load
[23:32] <szrhawaii> if i throw windows back on it boots me out
[23:33] <szrhawaii> can you solve this problem i go to reboot windows os and the computer boots me out before configuring
[23:33] <szrhawaii> when it prompts to set the settings
[23:34] <szrhawaii> anyone know that problem
[23:34] <szrhawaii> so earth you dont know what how i can configure the kernel so it works the right way
[23:35] <szrhawaii> or at least a way to start it all over again so everything works properly
[23:36] <szrhawaii> should i delet all partitions then reboot to bios an see if i cant turn the wireless on there or should i try safe mode and see if it comes on in there and see if it will work
[23:36] <szrhawaii> the toggle doesnt work so im not sure how to recreate that
[23:36] <szrhawaii> or restart it
[23:41] <zir-rt> hi, how can I configure the mouse to one single click for gnome programs?
[23:42] <a_faris> Goooodddd morninggg guyzzz
[23:43] <a_faris> Anyone out there?
[23:43] <ilham> zir-rt: what apps do you use
[23:44] <ilham> a_faris: good morning
[23:44] <szrhawaii> hello
[23:44] <zir-rt> ilham: For ex. Firefox save dialogs, quot libet..
[23:44] <mister-t> !hi
[23:44] <HappySmileMan> The state of mozilla-qt seems pretty weird, all the QT code seems to be written but there's a few really obvious things not defined, like no-one added CAIRO_SURFACE_TYPE_QPAINTER to the enum in cairo.h
[23:45] <HappySmileMan> So It appears that all the hard stuff is done but it needs to be messed around with before it compiles
[23:45] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to turn on the toggle for a wireless when it the light doesnt work through the program files
[23:47] <ilham> zir-rt: Sorry no idea
[23:47] <a_faris> errr .. can someone help me with my display resolution pls?
[23:47] <zir-rt> ilham: thanks anyway :)
[23:49] <lazlor> !shoutcast
[23:53] <artur_> why can a C program, finishs in a message of 'segmentation fail' sometimes, and sometimes everything works with no problem? Could be a problem in the memory reserved to a process?
[23:57] <tacosarecool> But why aren't some pages displaying properly
[23:57] <tacosarecool> Is it just kde4?
[23:57] <scholz> I have Kubuntu and Firefox 3.x but cannot get the Kodak plugin/extension to work
[23:57] <scholz> the login just hangs... (with FireFox 2.x also)
[23:57] <scholz> any ideas?
[23:57] <tacosarecool> Wait till you get to stickam some stuff won't display right
[23:58] <HappySmileMan> Latest firefox from source has Theory and Vorbis plugins bbuilt in... Does Firefox 3 have these or are they new to 3.1?
[23:59] <tacosarecool> Any ideas I'll send you a pic
[23:59]  * andylockran|lapt is away: Gone away for now


[00:05] <cjwatson> jenders: it has supported GPT for quite some time
[00:06] <cjwatson> I implemented partman/early_command in 8.10
[00:09] <jenders> oh really ?
[00:10] <jenders> how do i use it :)
[00:12] <jenders> pxelinux supports booting based off gpt partition labels
[00:12] <jenders> I'd love to label my /boot partition with "boot" so i could aim chain.c32 at it
[00:18] <jenders> I'm grabbing a checkout to poke at this
[00:19] <jenders> thanks for your dedication, i hope canonical fills your pockets with gold ;)
[01:02] <cjwatson> what it doesn't yet support is selecting it on a system that would normally use MBR as the default
[01:03] <cjwatson> but you could fool that by ensuring that there's some kind of GPT label (empty if you like) there in advance (say in partman/early_command), in which case it should use that
[01:03] <cjwatson> one of these days I should make it preseedable, for testing if nothing else
[02:42] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5187 trunk/debian/ (changelog ubiquity-frontend-gtk.install): Install pixmaps/windows_square.png in ubiquity-frontend-gtk.
[02:52] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5188 trunk/ (13 files in 4 dirs):
[02:52] <CIA-70> ubiquity: Make it possible to run the test suite against installed packages, and
[02:52] <CIA-70> ubiquity: add a DEP-8 control file for this.
[12:07] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5189 trunk/ (151 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[13:13] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5190 trunk/debian/ (22 files in 2 dirs):
[13:13] <CIA-70> ubiquity: Update imported translations from gtk+3.0 3.3.14-0ubuntu2 and
[13:13] <CIA-70> ubiquity: gnome-panel 1:3.3.5-0ubuntu2.
[14:46]  * cjwatson gets fed up and totally refactors the target path removal code in copy_all
[14:46] <cjwatson> this time it will have tests damnit.  at least some
[17:24] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5191 trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[17:24] <CIA-70> ubiquity: * Refactor copy_all to be more robust, handle some more cases, and be
[17:24] <CIA-70> ubiquity:  testable and tested. It can now:
[17:24] <CIA-70> ubiquity:  - copy a directory over an existing non-directory (LP: #891711);
[17:24] <CIA-70> ubiquity:  - copy device nodes and sockets over existing non-directories
[17:24] <CIA-70> ubiquity:  (LP: #495217);
[17:24] <CIA-70> ubiquity:  - handle all cases of copying a non-directory over an existing empty
[17:49] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5192 trunk/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py scripts/plugininstall.py): Ignore all failures to set timestamps (LP: #411307, #654929).
[17:52] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5193 trunk/scripts/plugininstall.py: Apply remove_target to a cloned-and-hacked version of the same code (what is this doing in our tree anyway?).
[18:01] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5194 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.9.19