[12:00] <ogra> Pyraine: start with step 3 after you installed the package: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/tutorial.php?lang=en
[12:00] <nicedreams> xorgconfig
[12:00] <nicedreams> or
[12:00] <nicedreams> xf86configure
[12:00] <euphoria> when un put ./scanmodem the error "grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No existe el fichero o el directorio"(is spanish thast say do not existe) how to put it?
[12:00] <Setite> nice - who you talkign to
[12:00] <ogra> Setite: has he loaded the module properly ? he stopped talking to me last time i asked him
[12:00] <Setite> ummmm
[12:00] <nicedreams> who ever is asking for video help
[12:01] <ogra> nicedreams: its a nvidia driver prob :)
[12:01] <carajean2> anybody know how to get past the you have mail thing in the booting screen
[12:01] <nicedreams> oh...pesky nvidia on ubuntu
[12:01] <nicedreams> for some reason doesn't work too well.  I get it to work with no problem on regular debian
[12:01] <Setite> yea i walked carajean through it step by step...but somethign went wrong it seems
[12:01] <carajean2> yes i agree on the pesky nvidia thing
[12:01] <AlexandreGL> I need help... I installed Ubuntu but now I can<t change my screen resolution... The only one that I can take is 512x384... But I want 1024x768... Please contact me in a private chat...
[12:01] <ogra> nicedreams: it works great....
[12:02] <Setite> i mean what happened is what i recall was supposed to happen when i did it on fedora
[12:02] <nicedreams> ogra: are you using the test version?
[12:02] <carajean2> but now i cant log into ubuntu
[12:02] <Setite> xserver wont load
[12:02] <nicedreams> of ubuntu?
[12:02] <etorix> its aubuntu problem
[12:02] <ogra> nicedreams: if you didnt touch the config before :)
[12:02] <nicedreams> ogra: that must be my problem.  I keep trying everything the debian way
[12:02] <AlexandreGL> I need help... I installed Ubuntu but now I can<t change my screen resolution... The only one that I can take is 512x384... But I want 1024x768...
[12:02] <nicedreams> ogra: i just want to play quake3
[12:02] <ogra> nicedreams: currently i use warty,,,,, but i got anoteher testing box with hoary...
[12:02] <Setite> ogra
[12:02] <lifeless> AlexandreGL: I'm guessing that noone here has an answer for you
[12:02] <Setite> there he is
[12:02] <Setite> he's listening
[12:03] <euphoria> when un put ./scanmodem the error "grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No existe el fichero o el directorio"(is spanish thast say do not existe) how to put it? is woarty version
[12:03] <lifeless> AlexandreGL: have you looked at the FAQ? There may be something in there...
[12:03] <carajean2> what about the you have new main thing
[12:03] <Setite> cara is "usr@usr:~$" at a black doslike screen
[12:03] <nicedreams> ogra: does hoary and nvidia work for you?  have you tested it?  I'm trying to see if it does work because i'm using hoary and they keep changing things
[12:03] <Setite> yea what is that new mail about
[12:03] <ogra> nicedreams: you should always look at the wiki... there is mostly described the ubuntu way of things
[12:03] <carajean2> yes it is
[12:03] <etorix> type :mail
[12:03] <nicedreams> ogra: i guess i'll rtfm more
[12:03] <etorix> read it
[12:03] <Setite> watch it say: haha you messed up dumb fool
[12:04] <carajean2> ok i put somethin out now what
[12:04] <nicedreams> ogra: i just keep getting segmentation faults in glxgears and glxinfo ever since i upgrade to hoary
[12:04] <Setite> whats it say cara
[12:04] <crimsun> nicedreams: known issue.
[12:04] <nicedreams> aw...i figured it was just hoary
[12:04] <ogra> nicedreams:  xorg....
[12:04] <nicedreams> yea
[12:05] <carajean2> >N 1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>The Dec 23 16:04 30/1356 debconf:configure libraw
[12:05] <carajean2> that one of three hold on
[12:05] <Setite> wtf
[12:05] <etorix> no .. i have xorg and nvidia on my debian-amd64 no problem
[12:05] <nicedreams> etroix: ooooooooooooooooo how you get it to work?
[12:05] <AlexandreGL> I need help... I installed Ubuntu but now I can<t change my screen resolution... The only one that I can take is 512x384... But I want 1024x768... This is very impostant... I can<t do anything in this very small resolution....
[12:05] <carajean2> skippin the root and date stuff
[12:06] <nicedreams> etroix: i've tried everything i usually do to get it to work on sarge
[12:06] <nicedreams> etroix: and now i'm on ubuntu hoary
[12:06] <carajean2> 27/1143 debconf:configuring x-ttci
[12:06] <etorix> this is a debootstrapped si amd64
[12:06] <etorix> sid*
[12:06] <ogra> carajean2: press n
[12:06] <nicedreams> etorix: how's it run?
[12:06] <carajean2> 19/844 cron<root@usr> test -e
[12:06] <etorix> fine
[12:06] <nicedreams> fast as hell i bet
[12:07] <etorix> but its a system built up over time
[12:07] <carajean2> ok i did orga
[12:07] <Setite> etorix man
[12:07] <etorix> whereas ubuntu is installed
[12:07] <Setite> i may need your help next saturday
[12:07] <Setite> so be on
[12:07] <carajean2> its waitin for somethin
[12:07] <ogra> carajean2: its a commandline mail app.....with n you get the next message... with q or x you quit
[12:07] <AlexandreGL> I need help... I installed Ubuntu but now I can<t change my screen resolution... The only one that I can take is 512x384... But I want 1024x768...
[12:07] <|QuaD-> i might need your help a year from last tuesday
[12:07] <etorix> heh .. ill have Kanotix64 by then
[12:07] <Setite> wtf is that
[12:08] <Setite> i may need help debootstrapping or whatever
[12:08] <Setite> so i can have 32bit libs as well as the 64bit one
[12:08] <|QuaD-> AlexandreGL: how is your xfree config file?
[12:08] <nicedreams> does hoary have a problem with nvidia-glx?  it seems like it's not fully installed regardless of how many times i uninstall and reinstall it
[12:08] <ogra> nicedreams: yep
[12:08] <etorix> yeah ,, i want to try a debootstrap of ubuntu
[12:08] <|QuaD-> nicedreams: works fine here
[12:08] <thoreauputic> AlexandreGL: try running ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 `
[12:08] <Setite> cara did you exit the mail client yet
[12:08] <nicedreams> arg...  back to the drawing board
[12:09] <carajean2> no it likes me so much it wont let me leave
[12:09] <Setite> restart it again
[12:09] <etorix> hoary has a problem with nvidi-glx
[12:09] <Setite> and at that first setting
[12:09] <Setite> say yes
[12:09] <carajean2> ok
[12:09] <crimsun> etorix: the diversions are fixed in -10
[12:10] <carajean2> i am
[12:10] <|QuaD-> etorix: no it doesn't
[12:10] <|QuaD-> etorix: or last i checked it didn't
[12:10] <nicedreams> nvidia-glx has an issue on mine then
[12:10] <Setite> etorix
[12:10] <Setite> you shoudl get windows
[12:10] <etorix> im sure theyll fix it .. its a symlink ting
[12:10] <nicedreams> windows?
[12:10] <Setite> and compare the ffmpeg encodign speed in win and lin64
[12:10] <nicedreams> oh
[12:10] <nicedreams> lol
[12:10] <|QuaD-> etorix: what is wrong with your nvidia-glx?
[12:10] <crimsun> etorix: your diversions are fixed.
[12:10] <nicedreams> wrong koolaid
[12:10] <Setite> thats what i plan to do
[12:10] <etorix> <|QuaD- .. ive done 3 installs of hoary 64-bit
[12:10] <Setite> to prove the superiority of linux
[12:11] <|QuaD-> etorix: mine works... what seems to be your problem
[12:11] <nicedreams> nvidia-glx seems to not fully install on hoary for me either
[12:11] <Setite> what are the major changes in hoary?
[12:11] <nicedreams> can someone help me on that maybe?
[12:11] <crimsun> nicedreams: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4937
[12:11] <nicedreams> thx for link..checking now.........
[12:11] <fcomtois> can anybody give me a server address where i can download mplayer ?
[12:11] <|QuaD-> is this nvidia-glx issue a recent one? i didn't update today
[12:11] <etorix> im going to try a debootstrap next .. so its all downloaded  .. no cd-software
[12:12] <crimsun> |QuaD-: an issue as of xorg .7
[12:12] <|QuaD-> crimsun: i must not have updated recently
[12:12] <crimsun> etorix: from -9: * debian/nvidia-glx.postrm.in: Fix /usr/X11R6/lib32/libGL.so.1 diversion removal.
[12:12] <Setite> does ubuntu take a long time to load
[12:13] <carajean2> yes
[12:13] <Setite> fedora loaded alot slower than windwos
[12:13] <carajean2> ubuntu slow loading
[12:13] <|QuaD-> Setite: 45 seconds here (i believe)
[12:13] <crimsun> about one minute here
[12:13] <Setite> hmmmm... mine took forever
[12:13] <etorix> so how does that help a install from cd?
[12:13] <Setite> from pressing power to desktop was probably around 2 minutes
[12:13] <crimsun> etorix: it's not even an issue unless you're running hoary
[12:14] <crimsun> etorix: what was your precise issue?
[12:14] <Setite> cara is it there yet?
[12:14] <etorix> hoary is all ive got
[12:14] <Setite> cara are you seeing the nvidia splash screen?
[12:14] <nicedreams> crimsun: that sounds like my problem.  How do i change the symblink?  I just want to make sure I do it the right way.
[12:15] <crimsun> nicedreams: sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.1.0.6629 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
[12:15] <nicedreams> thx
[12:16] <Setite> crimsun
[12:16] <Setite> what is that
[12:16] <Setite> ln and -sf
[12:16] <Setite> see thats why i want a books
[12:16] <Setite> so i can understand all that crap
[12:16] <crimsun> see ln(1)
[12:16] <|QuaD-> Setite: man
[12:16] <Setite> yes i am a man
[12:16] <nicedreams> crimsun: do i have to restart x?
[12:16] <crimsun> nicedreams: yes.
[12:16] <nicedreams> k
[12:16] <nicedreams> thx
[12:16] <etorix> i got stuck in a 640x480 resolution .. nvidia-glx installed but GLX wasnt ever loaded.. removal of nvidia-glx attempts put me in a impossible situation
[12:16] <crimsun> Setite: man 1 ln
[12:16] <thoreauputic> Setite: making a soft link (symlink) ln -s
[12:16] <Setite> see ya in a bit nice
[12:17] <crimsun> etorix: in warty?
[12:17] <nicedreams> brb if it doesn't work...  if it does...i'll be playing quake3 urban terror :)
[12:17] <etorix> no
[12:17] <etorix>  i only have hoary 64-bit
[12:17] <crimsun> etorix: how are you strapping up to hoary?
[12:17] <etorix> sec
[12:18] <Setite> ok what book would have a list of all these commands
[12:18] <etorix> im not .. its a iso
[12:18] <|QuaD-> Setite: man pages
[12:18] <|QuaD-> better
[12:18] <|QuaD-> and free
[12:18] <Setite> btw.. i like this sudo thing instead of root... good job ubuntu
[12:18] <Setite> i want a book though
[12:18] <Setite> im stubborn... i like books
[12:19] <|QuaD-> Setite: o'reilly has one that just basically lists the man pages
[12:19] <Setite> ill have them for when i FUBAR my install and need to find a way out
[12:19] <Setite> linux in a nutshell?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Setite: have a look here: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[12:19] <Setite> thats not a book
[12:19] <Setite> is it
[12:19] <crimsun> etorix: then wait a day and recreate/download a new iso so today's changes will be included.
[12:20] <|QuaD-> Setite: i believe so
[12:20] <Setite> im serious when i say i want a book... i want something tangible
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Setite: I can't really dcc you a book - but tuxfiles is a good place to start
[12:20] <Setite> ooh yea you can
[12:20] <etorix> yeah .. a deboostrap was my plan
[12:20] <Setite> thanks...
[12:20] <Setite> i forgot abotu ebooks
[12:20] <Pyraine> =\
[12:20] <Setite> now i just gotta remember where that channel was
[12:20] <heero17> :S
[12:20] <crimsun> etorix: well if you debootstrap manually, it will work now aside from the .so -> .a error
[12:20] <Pyraine> it's saying it doesn't recognize the format on my floppy :'(
[12:21] <Pyraine> so i can't get the files out of it
[12:21] <etorix> yeah .. im dl-ing a Kanorix64 iso atm
[12:21] <heero17> maybe
[12:21] <heero17> u dont have the mtools?
[12:21] <etorix> Kanotix64*
[12:21] <heero17> is for use floppydisks
[12:21] <etorix> a preview for testing
[12:21] <heero17> aa ok
[12:22] <nicedreams> works great
[12:23] <nicedreams> but now how i do get the mouse to show up in the game?
[12:23] <nicedreams> lol
[12:23] <nicedreams> quake3
[12:23] <crimsun> see the linux gamers' faq
[12:23] <crimsun> http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/
[12:24] <nicedreams> crimsun: thx again for the help
[12:25] <nicedreams> beats 6 hours in google
[12:25] <Setite> AHHH i cant remember what network that ebook channel was on
[12:26] <Setite> YES
[12:26] <ogra> Pyraine: there is a wrong entry in the fstab for floppy, change auto to vfat on the floppy line
[12:29] <elcid> :)
[12:29] <Pyraine> where is fstab?
[12:29] <thoreauputic> Pyraine: /etc/fstab
[12:29] <elcid> en /etc/fstab
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Pyraine: you need sudo to edit it
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Pyraine: for instance sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:30] <Setite> if anyone everneeds books
[12:30] <Setite> irc.nullus.net
[12:33] <davmor2> I have a new 64bit amd system what repository support it for extra program and apps
[12:33] <elcid> oh a santa claws , again
[12:34] <elcid> why santa claws , i want a amd 64 too
[12:34] <elcid> ;)
[12:34] <etorix> just un-comment th ones in etc/apt/sources.list
[12:34] <davmor2> I've saved up for 8 months
[12:35] <elcid> :O i think do the same for the next year
[12:35] <davmor2> etorix done that but because of the 64bit not everything I used to have is available so I wondered if there were any more repos with more apps
[12:36] <Setite> oh wow... i didnt know these ebooks were warez
[12:36] <etorix> sec
[12:36] <Setite> haha i feel dumb now
[12:36] <elcid> well davmor2 if ubuntu is limited for u, see the portage of gentoo " we repository" ;)
[12:36] <Setite> it has the o'reilly books... that cant be legal
[12:37] <etorix> hoary main restricted ..hoary universe ..  i had
[12:37] <davmor2> two of the ones from the ubuntu starter guide don't work at all
[12:38] <kalua> hello
[12:38] <elcid> hello
[12:38] <elcid> kalua
[12:38] <davmor2> etorix are they stable enough for a realitive newbie
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Setite: depends what the license is - possibly some O'Reilly books are open/ public domain - you could check on the O'Reilly site I guess
[12:38] <kalua> hello
[12:38] <vladster> california dre3aming done to electronic trance, really wierd especially when you heard it when it wa first re4leased
[12:38] <etorix> hoary aint .. no
[12:38] <elcid> kalua where are u from
[12:39] <etorix> davmor2:  just dont dist-upgrade yet awhile
[12:39] <davmor2> etorix okay ta
[12:49] <Grexo> figures........
[12:49] <Grexo> turns out there is a bug with ubuntu and windows xp booting
[12:49] <Grexo> i knew it, everyone is like oh its working fine, blah blah
[12:49] <Grexo> ubuntu fixed it tho in array 2 :)
[12:50] <Grexo>  Upgraded parted by several upstream versions; while this changed API/ABI so several other packages needed to be rebuilt, this is believed finally to correct the problem where Ubuntu installations rendered Windows unbootable with certain partition table layouts and BIOS versions (#1566). Please test.
[12:50] <Grexo> i knew i was not crazy
[12:50] <Grexo> :)
[12:50] <Setite> ogra
[12:50] <Grexo> ubuntu right on the ball
[12:50] <Setite> you still workign with cara
[12:50] <Setite> this angers me
[12:50] <ogra> why ?
[12:51] <Setite> just askng
[12:51] <Setite> he said you were
[12:51] <ogra> he broke his X config badly
[12:51] <Setite> yea i know
[12:51] <Setite> but i dunno how
[12:51] <ogra> we just repair it
[12:51] <Setite> you did
[12:51] <Setite> so its all good now?
[12:51] <ogra> not yet
[12:51] <Setite> well i wonder what happened
[12:51] <ogra> he broke it, he edited the config
[12:51] <Setite> well yea but i dunno how
[12:52] <Setite> unless he didnt do what i said verbatim
[12:52] <Setite> i just read off each step
[12:52] <ogra> me neither, but we get it sorted i think
[12:52] <Setite> so as to make sure he missed nothing
[12:52] <Setite> do you know what mistake was made?
[12:52] <ogra> there are only two steps
[12:52] <Setite> well there is the installation through terminal
[12:53] <Setite> then the editing of the two configs
[12:53] <ogra> to make nvidia work
[12:53] <ogra> nope, no editing
[12:53] <ogra> two commands:
[12:53] <Setite> it says edit
[12:53] <ogra> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:53] <ogra> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:53] <ogra> thats all
[12:53] <Setite>        * Modules Section:
[12:53] <Setite>                * Comment these out:
[12:53] <Setite>                * #     Load    "GLcore"
[12:53] <Setite>                * #     Load    "dri"
[12:53] <Setite>                * Make sure this is enabled:
[12:53] <Setite>                *       Load    "glx"
[12:53] <Setite>        * Device Section:
[12:53] <Setite>                * Change "nv" to "nvidia"
[12:53] <Setite>                * Driver         "nvidia"
[12:53] <Setite>        * DRI Section:
[12:53] <ogra> hey
[12:53] <Setite>                * Comment this out:
[12:53] <ogra> stop
[12:53] <Setite>                #Section "DRI"
[12:53] <Setite>                #       Mode    0666
[12:53] <Pozac> easy on the paste there
[12:53] <Setite>                #EndSection
[12:53] <Setite> the tut says to do that
[12:54] <ogra> STOP
[12:54] <Setite> yea i did
[12:54] <Setite> sorry i didnt really how long it was
[12:54] <Setite> dude what... it stopped already
[12:54] <ogra> Setite: for the next time: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:54] <ogra> Setite: only the two commands, nothing else
[12:54] <Setite> yea we did that
[12:54] <Setite> and it didnt work
[12:54] <ogra> dont edit, its all done by the second command
[12:55] <Pozac> Setite, when you flood, there is a delay for each line
[12:55] <Setite> oh ok... well i didnt see the delay
[12:55] <Setite> and telling me to stop twice does nothing so you know... because once i pressed enter it was done
[12:56] <Pozac> Setite, you must (!) read some IRC etiquette before joining
[12:56] <Setite> i knew the etiquette... it didnt look that long...
[12:57] <TommyNight> Hi
[12:57] <Setite> i didnt think 14 lines was a federal offense
[12:57] <TommyNight> germany here
[12:57] <Pozac> Setite, it's an international offens
[12:57] <TommyNight> german here
[12:57] <Pozac> World Police is heading for your address as we speak.
[12:57] <ogra> TommyNight: here too
[12:57] <Setite> oh ok
[12:57] <Pozac> ;)
[12:57] <TommyNight> ...
[12:58] <TommyNight> DEUTSCHE :))))))))
[12:58] <bigbubba> hi is there something special that has to be setup with ubuntu to get mail to work thru php. I downloaded sendmail to the best of my ability i changed the sendmail.cf file to include my smtp for my isp but for some reason i can't get php to send the email using the mail function is there more to it than that. Basically what i'm asking do i have to configure smtp in some kinda file in ubuntu?
[12:58] <ogra> Setite: i must correct me, if you dont reboot after the two commands, you have to load the module manually to make it work....
[12:59] <Setite> yea
[01:00] <Setite> sudo modprobe nvidia
[01:00] <ogra> yep
[01:01] <Setite> yea well its all retarded... the edits are more of a confirmation that everything was changed...
[01:01] <Setite> was it the changing nv to nvidia?
[01:01] <Setite> thats the only thing i think could cause the problem
[01:02] <Pozac> bigbubba, I think Ubuntu uses postfix by default
[01:02] <Setite> or is it the disabling glcore and dri
[01:03] <ogra> Setite: it think it probably is a typo anywhere that wasnt there before or a similar thing, you never know :)
[01:03] <Pozac> bigbubba, there's some info on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupEmailHowto#set-up-outgoing-mail-postfix - I'm not sure about php though
[01:03] <Setite> is he done yet
[01:03] <Setite> he's not answering me very frequently
[01:03] <ogra> Setite: thats what nvidia-glx-config does
[01:04] <Setite> i know it does
[01:04] <ogra> nope, he is fighting with the gephical config tool
[01:04] <ogra> graphical
[01:04] <Setite> ok he says you havent replied to him in a bit
[01:04] <Setite> yea no need to correct spelling... i figured it out
[01:04] <bigbubba> well thats fine i can probably figure out the php part i just wasn't sure how to get it to do mail cause i'm guessing it uses some form of communication with a mail client to connect to the smtp server
[01:05] <Pozac> bigbubba, yeah, troubleshooting php is at least way easier when mail for sure works :)
[01:06] <Pozac> too.. much.. candy..
[01:06] <kergan> Pozac,  too much candy how about too much nuts
[01:06] <bigbubba> yeah i just don't think my mail is working at all honestly
[01:07] <Pozac> kergan, good to get the stomach going :)
[01:08] <usual> HO HO HO
[01:09] <bigbubba> i think i need to install and setup sendmail the only problem is i don't really understand what needs to be changed in it even after looking at the man
[01:09] <dr_willis> Wife went shopping ---> OH OH OH!
[01:09] <Pozac> bigbubba, why not postfix?
[01:09] <bigbubba> well postfix would be great too
[01:09] <bigbubba> whatever works ;)
[01:10] <bigbubba> i was just going by what the php guys were saying
[01:10] <bigbubba> so you said its installed by default?
[01:11] <Pozac> unless sendmail install removed it
[01:12] <bigbubba> well is there some kinda documentation other than the man page on this? and is the command postfix? so i can try to find some info on it
[01:12] <Pozac> bigbubba, did you even look at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupEmailHowto#set-up-outgoing-mail-postfix ?
[01:13] <Pozac> bigbubba, also, postfix is in the supported distribution
[01:13] <bigbubba> no i missed the link thanks for posting again sorry
[01:13] <Pozac> ok cool :)
[01:13] <ogra> Setite: sorted
[01:14] <Setite> awesome
[01:14] <lifeless> ~.
[01:16] <Setite> are you running him through the proper way
[01:16] <Setite> lemme get this straing
[01:16] <Setite> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:16] <Setite> then
[01:16] <Setite> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:16] <Setite> then
[01:16] <Setite> sudo modprobe nvidia
[01:16] <Setite> then to test : glxgears
[01:18] <zenwhen> Merry God Day :)
[01:18] <Pozac> And your nick is a girls nick.
[01:18] <Pozac> :)
[01:18] <Pozac> Merry christmas
[01:19] <Setite> it is?
[01:20] <Setite> its the name of a type of vampire... how is it a girls nick
[01:20] <Setite> formerly the name of a follower of the Egyptian god Set
[01:20] <Pozac> Dunno, probably the -ite
[01:21] <kebac> it just sounds girlish
[01:21] <Setite> right
[01:21] <Setite> ur odd
[01:21] <Pozac> very
[01:22] <Setite> imma go read linux in a nutshell now
[01:23] <bigbubba> dang get all the way to the end of the wiki and i don't have postmap haha that stinks
[01:27] <ogra> Setite: i just readback... you need indeed to restart the X session before glxgears in the above
[01:27] <Setite> well what if he didnt
[01:27] <Setite> we skipped the restart
[01:28] <Setite> and ran glxgear
[01:29] <Pozac> after the module has been loaded, X must be restarted
[01:29] <netmonk> Merry Christmas, Ubuntu fans and gurus
[01:29] <Pozac> Merry Christmas, netmonk
[01:30] <bigbubba> hm pozac you have a minute i don't wanna bug you but i'm confused i followd the wiki the only problem i see that might be an issue is i can't find the postmap command
[01:30] <bigbubba> even with a locate and which and find
[01:30] <nicedreams> ever since I got quake3 working...the mouse stays in the top left corner.  The buttons work though.  Sound like anything common?
[01:30] <Lathiat2> if you use rsync apt sources -- does it rsync the packages list?
[01:31] <Pozac> bigbubba, hmm..I think it's a type..should be portmap
[01:31] <bigbubba> ok
[01:31] <bigbubba> let me try that thanks
[01:31] <Setite> ogra PM
[01:35] <nicedreams> any thoughts on the mouse issue?
[01:35] <nicedreams> i have quake3 installed on a fat drive
[01:35] <nicedreams> does that make a difference for permissions or what not?
[01:35] <Lathiat2> nicedreams: mouse doesn't work in quake3
[01:35] <Lathiat2> ?
[01:36] <nicedreams> it stays in the top left
[01:36] <Pozac> stays in top left corner
[01:36] <Lathiat2> thats an issue i've seen a couple times, no idea what causes it reinstalls have fixed it sometimes
[01:36] <nicedreams> guess that'll have to do
[01:36] <nicedreams> i've been installing HL2 for over 40mins on my Winxp box
[01:36] <nicedreams> geez
[01:36] <nicedreams> updates are loooong
[01:36] <Pozac> not for ubuntu
[01:36] <nicedreams> i wish
[01:37] <Pozac> IMO, that's pretty snappy.
[01:38] <nicedreams> having quake3 installed on a fat partition wouldn't effect the permissions or something for the mouse would it?
[01:38] <Pozac> no
[01:39] <bigbubba> hmm strange for some reason when i do the echo command it says mail is not found
[01:39] <Pozac> the mouse isn't set to something wicked in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ?
[01:39] <nicedreams> looks all standard...i'll post it in a sec
[01:39] <Pozac> just guessing, either the device or maybe just the driver
[01:39] <Pozac> nicedreams, in #flood or PM
[01:39] <nicedreams> 4 lines
[01:40] <nicedreams> i'll do it slow
[01:40] <Pozac> oh well
[01:40] <nicedreams> Section "InputDevice"
[01:40] <nicedreams>         Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
[01:40] <nicedreams>         Driver          "mouse"
[01:40] <nicedreams>         Option          "CorePointer"
[01:40] <nicedreams>         Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[01:40] <nicedreams>         Option          "Protocol"              "ImPS/2"
[01:40] <nicedreams>         Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
[01:40] <nicedreams>         Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
[01:40] <nicedreams> err
[01:40] <Pozac> 4???
[01:40] <nicedreams> my bad
[01:40] <nicedreams> more than 4
[01:40] <nicedreams> didn't want the top lines above corepointer but oh well
[01:40] <etorix> flood warning
[01:41] <nicedreams> won't happen again ... sry
[01:41] <nicedreams> that looks right though
[01:41] <Quest-Master> When I start up k3b, it says I need to install cdrao
[01:41] <Quest-Master> Can't find it in the apt-get repositories though
[01:41] <etorix> looks fine
[01:41] <Quest-Master> Do I need to build it from source or is there a .deb for it?
[01:42] <ogra> Quest-Master: its in universe or multiverse
[01:42] <Quest-Master> I can't find it through apt-cache search
[01:42] <Pozac> nicedreams, that looks really standard
[01:42] <Pozac> :(
[01:42] <Quest-Master> :o
[01:42] <nicedreams> pozac: must be a quake3 thing then
[01:42] <ogra> cdrdao - Disk-At-Once (DAO) recording of audio and data CD-Rs/CD-RWs
[01:43] <ogra> Section: universe/otherosfs
[01:43] <Pozac> nicedreams, apparently, it's fixed in 1.32b.. hmm
[01:43] <ogra> Quest-Master: on warty
[01:44] <nicedreams> damnit... i don't think i have b
[01:44] <bigbubba> err where is the mail command what package is it in :(
[01:44] <nicedreams> pozac: good looking out
[01:44] <Pozac> nicedreams, man I love google
[01:44] <nicedreams> lol
[01:44] <Quest-Master> ogra: Yeah, I'm on warty
[01:44] <Pozac> it's the answer to all life's questions
[01:45] <Pozac> literally
[01:45] <ogra> bigbubba: dpkg -S `which mail`
[01:45] <nicedreams> well....HL2 finnaly updated on my xp box...
[01:45] <ogra> bigbubba: copy n paste to a terminal
[01:45] <Pozac> you just have to enter the right words
[01:45] <nicedreams> i need to learn some more special search words
[01:45] <ogra> Quest-Master: seen above ?
[01:46] <gwildor_> earlier today, someone sent a link...maybe yesterday, anyways somoneposted a link that had like a "how to do everything" in ubntu, list........any idea what i am talking about?
[01:46] <Pozac> nicedreams, i used 'quake3 linux mouse' :)
[01:46] <bigbubba> ok thanks
[01:47] <nicedreams> pozac: you have q3 installed?
[01:47] <bigbubba> i think its just a symbolic link though is it not
[01:47] <Pozac> nicedreams, no
[01:47] <nicedreams> oh
[01:47] <Pozac> nicedreams, in google
[01:47] <nicedreams> can you tell me if this is newest
[01:47] <nicedreams> linuxq3apoint-1.32.x86.run
[01:47] <bigbubba> i need ot make a link to /user/sbin/sendmail ? cause postfix makes it own sendmail library?
[01:47] <Pozac> nicedreams, I think 1.32b is newer
[01:47] <nicedreams> k...thx
[01:47] <nicedreams> i'll get it later....  i'm drooling over half life 2 now since it's updated
[01:48] <nicedreams> ttl
[01:48] <nicedreams>  :)
[01:48] <etorix> look on linuxmilitia
[01:48] <nicedreams> without linux, there would be no future
[01:48] <Pozac> nicedreams, the b is the client only version
[01:48] <Pozac> dang
[01:51] <bigbubba> yeah thats what i was i had to make a symbolic link to it at least mail is working now its setting in the que saying temp disabled defered transport not sure what that means but i'm making headway :)
[01:52] <lamont> bigbubba: postfix delivers /usr/sbin/sendmail, just like every other MTA
[01:52] <bigbubba> yeah i had to link the mail command to that though
[01:53] <bigbubba> so i could the echo "postfix is working | mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:53] <bigbubba> with the other "
[01:53] <bigbubba> otherwise i had a mail command not found
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Bob, a file system you have to defrag all the time ;)
[01:54] <thoreauputic> heh - wrong window sorry
[01:54] <Setite> ogra PM
[01:55] <Setite> OGRA
[01:55] <Setite> you there?
[01:56] <bigbubba> lamont you happen to know what deferred transport means and how to fix it i'm searching google but not finding anything
[01:56] <lamont> are you in a cable service?
[01:57] <lamont> ISP that is.
[01:57] <bigbubba> yes
[01:57] <lamont> odds are very good that you just need to configure relayhost to your ISP's machine, and all might be well.
[01:57] <lamont> brb
[01:57] <bigbubba> ok thanks
[01:58] <sid77> merry xmas
[02:01] <bigbubba> i think i found it
[02:01] <bigbubba> put the smtp server in relayhost = correct in the mail.cf?
[02:10] <Setite> whats SBA for nvidia?
[02:11] <etorix> sideband addressing
[02:14] <gwildor_> earlier today, someone sent a link...maybe yesterday, anyways somoneposted a link that had like a "how to do everything" in ubntu, list........any idea what i am talking about?
[02:17] <bigbubba> woo hoo i finally got the thing working :)
[02:18] <carajean> anyone know how to enable fast write for the video card
[02:18] <carajean> ??
[02:21] <etorix> carajean:  do that in bios .. if its supported
[02:21] <kebac> i think fast writes need to be enabled from drivers
[02:22] <crimsun> they need to be enabled in both bios and the video drivers
[02:22] <jeffbax> hello, has anyone else ran into terribly corrupted graphics in tux racer using ATi drivers ?
[02:23] <etorix> nvclock will get ya more action then fastwrites os sba
[02:23] <crimsun> though some mucking can be done w/ setpci(8)
[02:23] <etorix> s/os/or
[02:24] <Setite> kebac it is enabled
[02:24] <Setite> etorix
[02:24] <Setite> nvclock available for linux?
[02:25] <etorix> go to #nvclock
[02:25] <etorix> its in debian even
[02:26] <crimsun> and in 'universe'
[02:35] <Setite> i dunno what universe is
[02:36] <vladster> will ubuntu fit into a 2 gig drive?
[02:37] <vladster> I suppose it would
[02:39] <Setite> yea i bet it would
[02:39] <Setite> but why
[02:39] <Setite> you gotta be able to get more than that
[02:40] <crimsun> Setite: it's a repository
[02:41] <Setite> well i know that
[02:41] <Setite> but i dunno where it si
[02:41] <Pornoclause> is there a way in postfix to keep email from being sent from php as www-data@whatever_is_n_/etc/mailname ?
[02:41] <crimsun> Setite: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/kde/talkback/1101662715/view?searchterm=universe
[02:42] <crimsun> Setite: also see https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackages/view?searchterm=universe
[02:46] <Setite> ok thanks... ok time to hit the sack... i work graveyard so i need some rest
[02:47] <vladster> well if I install a 2 gig laptop drive in it, i might have room to shoe horn a skinny cdrw drivew in it as well with a little case modding
[02:47] <Setite> only one 5.25 bay?
[02:47] <vladster> yep
[02:47] <nix000> anyone help me integrate nautilus with mplay6er
[02:48] <Setite> thats what i think makes linux so undesirable for developers and such... the wide amount of people using it because its free and doesnt need a good pc
[02:48] <vladster> the case is only 3"high by 8"deep and 10" wide
[02:49] <SetiteAFK> oh... one of those kind
[02:49] <SetiteAFK> that you place monitor above
[02:49] <vladster> I figure nobody at work will try to mess with it
[02:49] <SetiteAFK> yea imma get one of those for a HTPC
[02:49] <vladster> you got it
[02:49] <SetiteAFK> a small acrylic one
[02:49] <vladster> Unisys CWD5001
[02:50] <vladster> enough functionality to do the job without the bells and whistles
[02:51] <usual> merry christmas
[03:21] <Arricka> so I know this is about Ubuntu, and you guys haven't officially started supporting mplayer yet, but would you know why it tells me it can't open VMG info when I try and play DVDs?
[03:21] <Freakwitch> question for the ubuntu laptopians in the house: has anyone gotten kismet to work with ubuntu?
[03:22] <xhoy> so i could not tell you at the current time ;-)
[03:22] <xhoy> maby to morow
[03:22] <xhoy> bye bye
[03:25] <sladen> Freakwitch: you need a card/driver that can be put in Monitor mode.  eg.  HostAP drivers compiled up and an Orinoco card
[03:25] <Freakwitch> I have the Atheros card, it works so far, though I'm not sure about Monitor mode
[03:26] <Freakwitch> I think it works because I can (kind of) get airsnort to work
[03:27] <kergan> in hoary alsa but be broke
[03:27] <Freakwitch> when I try to run kismet I get the following error: FATAL:  Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for writing: Permission denied
[03:27] <Freakwitch> then I try to run it with sudo
[03:27] <Freakwitch> and get: FATAL: Unable to open cisco control file '/proc/driver/aironet/eth0/Config' 2:No such file or directory
[03:28] <Freakwitch> eth0 is not my wireless card, though; it is ath0
[03:28] <kergan> xmms crashes when alsa is loaded as the output sound devise
[03:28] <kergan> i am forsed to use oss
[03:28] <kergan> to play my mp3s
[03:30] <kergan> Freakwitch, hmm
[03:32] <Freakwitch> kergan: have you tried adjusting the alsa driver settings, ie, output device?
[03:32] <Freakwitch> I'm not running hoary, but I know alsa can be picky
[03:34] <crimsun> kergan: describe your configuration
[03:34] <crimsun> brb, call.
[03:35] <kergan> crimsun,  intel i845gl mobo with built in sound card
[03:35] <kergan> i have run hoary before with alsa working just fine
[03:36] <kergan> crimsun,  what do you exactly want to know
[03:36] <kergan> cause i can get that for you
[03:41] <kergan> Freakwitch,  no i havent tried that and i am nervous to do that
[03:41] <crimsun> kergan: using Warty, correct?
[03:41] <kergan> no hoary
[03:42] <crimsun> kergan: with Hoary's kernel?
[03:42] <kergan> 2.6.9
[03:43] <crimsun> right, so you're using ALSA 1.0.6 with libasound2 1.0.7
[03:43] <kergan> yes
[03:43] <crimsun> do you have the 'universe' repo enabled?
[03:43] <kergan> yes
[03:43] <crimsun> I recommend you `sudo apt-get install alsa-source', then read /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian
[03:44] <crimsun> if you follow those instructions, you will have upgraded ALSA to 1.0.7
[03:44] <kergan> i dont wnat to compile it my self
[03:44] <Lathiat2> a
[03:44] <kergan> crimsun,  ill just wate till alsa 1.0.7 is released by ubuntu
[03:45] <kergan> just so i dont have to compile it
[03:45] <kergan> lol
[03:45] <crimsun> kergan: it's already available
[03:45] <crimsun> kergan: 1.0.7 is in kernel 2.6.10, but it will not be available in Hoary for quite some time.
[03:45] <MShuttleW> in the spirit of xmas, im gonna do like shuttleworth does, offer a bounty!
[03:45] <MShuttleW> :)
[03:46] <kergan> crimsun,  so wate till thay release 2.6.10 then right??
[03:46] <crimsun> MShuttleW: awesome. :)
[03:46] <crimsun> MShuttleW: merrymas to you, too
[03:46] <MShuttleW> as soon as i figure out a pressing need in ubuntu :)
[03:47] <Lathiat2> so why the hell is your nick MShuttleW then?
[03:47] <crimsun> nah, that'd be sabdfl
[03:47] <MShuttleW> lathiat2:  Cause its the spirit of him
[03:47] <MShuttleW> :)
[03:47] <kergan> lol
[03:47] <Lathiat2> heh
[03:47] <MShuttleW> the xmas spirit is here to stay
[03:47] <LinuxSanta> better?
[03:47] <LinuxSanta> :)
[03:47] <Lathiat2> lol
[03:47] <kergan> and it ant going any ware thats for shure
[03:47] <crimsun> kergan: what precisely are your issues with ALSA 1.0.6 in Hoary?
[03:48] <kergan> it crashes xmms or says cant find alsa devise
[03:49] <LinuxSanta> actually i have a hidden motivation for the bounties
[03:49] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  of course
[03:49] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  dont we all
[03:49] <kergan> lol
[03:49] <crimsun> kergan: and what ALSA device is XMMS attempting to use?
[03:49] <kergan> crimsun,  the defult
[03:49] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  I mean, I want to get rid of microsoft once and for all for the average user's desktop
should be GNULinuxSanta</rms-mode>
[03:50] <LinuxSanta> and im trying to find the most pressing need that is holding linux back
[03:50] <LinuxSanta> ill have something by midnight :)
[03:50] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  i allready have
[03:50] <Lathiat2> quick, its 11:59 :P
[03:50] <crimsun> kergan: so in XMMS (1.2.10-2ubuntu1)'s ALSA configuration dialog, in the ALSA device section, "default" is listed?
[03:50] <LinuxSanta> lathiat2:  EST i mean
[03:50] <kergan> crimsun,  yess
[03:50] <LinuxSanta> lathiat2:  I fergot to say EST :)
[03:50] <Lathiat2> i was kidding :)
[03:50] <Lathiat2> its 10:50am here :)
[03:51] <calc> rewrite gnome in an oop language ;)
[03:51] <LinuxSanta> lol
[03:51] <crimsun> kergan: does `aplay foo.wav' work correctly?
[03:51] <calc> that is a fairly small bounty
[03:51] <Lathiat2> hah
[03:51] <kergan> crimsun,  i just fixed its self
[03:51] <kergan> ??
[03:51] <LinuxSanta> kergan so share :)
[03:51] <crimsun> kergan: come again?
[03:51] <LinuxSanta> if its good ill add a bounty for your idea
[03:52] <zenkov> Please somebody, show me default content of /etc/rc3.d in #flood
[03:52] <kergan> crimsun,  i had changed the alsa devise to hw0:0 then back to default and it works
[03:53] <ighost> did ubuntu screw  up anyone else's partition tables upon install>
[03:53] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  boinc@home (aka seti@home) how to run it win you log in to a terminal
[03:53] <LinuxSanta> ighost:  Known bug
[03:53] <LinuxSanta> ighost:  they are testing a fix now
[03:53] <ighost> LinuxSanta: ok thanks for the information, i guess i'll try ubuntu again when they get a fix ;)
[03:54] <crimsun> kergan: "hw0:0" is invalid syntax
[03:54] <kergan> ya ighost  i am trying the fix now
[03:54] <LinuxSanta> ighost:   Upgraded parted by several upstream versions; while this changed API/ABI so several other packages needed to be rebuilt, this is believed finally to correct the problem where Ubuntu installations rendered Windows unbootable with certain partition table layouts and BIOS versions (#1566). Please test.
[03:54] <crimsun> kergan: you must use "hw:0,0" instead
[03:54] <kergan> crimsun,  thats wot i ment
[03:54] <LinuxSanta> ighost were you using hoary or warty?
[03:54] <LinuxSanta> ighost:  you can download array 2 iso if you want
[03:54] <LinuxSanta> it may fix the problem
[03:54] <ighost> LinuxSanta: i tried warty a few weeks ago
[03:54] <crimsun> mdz: thanks for clearing up the 'member' question regarding MOTU.
[03:54] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  That was you?  :)
[03:55] <Kamion> yes
[03:55] <ighost> but i've been scared to try again
[03:55] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  ok
[03:55] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  ill give all the credit for you
[03:55] <Kamion> ighost: have you repaired the partition table since then?
[03:55] <LinuxSanta> :)
[03:55] <Kamion> oh, I don't care about credit, I was just slightly surprised :)
[03:55] <ighost> Kamion: i didn't try to repair, just repartitioned and got out backup cdrs
[03:55] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  better yet put the boinc client on the repos
[03:55] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  i actually was surprised it was a recognized bug now
[03:56] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  and have it start up win log in at gui
[03:56] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  im going to try array 2 myself now
[03:56] <Kamion> ighost: then I'd *definitely* appreciate you testing Array CD 2, since it's possible that you actually have a system where the bug is reproducible after first encountering it; such systems are few and far between
[03:56] <LinuxSanta> kamion merry xmas btw
[03:56] <Kamion> thanks
[03:57] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Was the bug limited to hoary or was it on warty as well?
[03:57] <Kamion> warty
[03:57] <LinuxSanta> ok
[03:57] <LinuxSanta> i had issues with warty and hoary
[03:57] <LinuxSanta> but with the hoary upgrade i think it was worse
[03:57] <kergan> not me
[03:58] <LinuxSanta> ill try the array 2
[03:58] <kergan> never had a prob with that bug
[03:58] <Kamion> actually it would also be interesting to know whether installing with Array CD 2 repairs a previously broken partition table
[03:58] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  read what kamion wrote :P
[03:58] <LinuxSanta> kamion ok will do
[03:58] <Kamion> kergan: it's dependent on all sorts of things down to BIOS versions
[03:58] <kergan> lol
[03:58] <Kamion> I've never been able to reproduce it on any system I own
[03:58] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  will find out soon enuff, i have a dimension 8300
[03:59] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Dell
[03:59] <ighost> Kamion: so you'd like me to test hoary or warty?
[03:59] <LinuxSanta> with latest A07 bios which has the issue
[03:59] <zenkov> Please, please somebody, show me default content of /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rcS.d :-)
[03:59] <kergan> mine is a emachine 2 ghz 512 mb ddr ram 40 gig maxor drive
[03:59] <kergan> i845g/gl mobo built by FIC
[03:59] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Im glad finally the bug was recognized
[03:59] <crimsun> zenkov: [2345]  match.
[03:59] <LinuxSanta> that bug was annoying the heck out of me
[03:59] <Kamion> ighost: hoary, Array CD 2, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-December/015285.html
[03:59] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: we always recognised it as a bug
[03:59] <kergan> tvon|seattle,  hi and welcome
[04:00] <ighost> Kamion: gotcha
[04:00] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  I reported a bug but it got cancelled out
[04:00] <tvon|seattle> howdy kergan
[04:00] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: bug number?
[04:00] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  i dont recall
[04:00] <kergan> tvon|seattle,  your from seattle
[04:00] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: what e-mail address?
[04:00] <tvon|seattle> kergan: no, Baltimore.  I'm *in* seattle :0
[04:00] <kergan> tvon|seattle,  cool i am 200 miles from you
[04:00] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  oh you dont have to look into it
[04:00] <tvon|seattle> :)
[04:00] <Arricka> okay, still trying to get mplayer working...now when I try and run dvds I get the error: alsa control /dev/mixer: no such file or directory
[04:00] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Its the same bug thats known for array 2
[04:00] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: I want to, though
[04:00] <tvon|seattle> kergan: where are you?
[04:00] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Mine was not specific tho
[04:00] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: are you sure it wasn't just closed as a duplicate?
[04:00] <crimsun> Arricka: are you using an ~./asoundrc?
[04:01] <Arricka> I don't know
[04:01] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  No, i couldnt tell what the problem was
[04:01] <kergan> tvon|seattle,  in wenatchee
[04:01] <crimsun> Arricka: ls -a ~/.asoundrc /etc/asound.conf
[04:01] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  it was closed out fairly, someone else must have made the issue known more clearly
[04:01] <LinuxSanta> so it was able  to be tracked down finally
[04:01] <tvon|seattle> kergan: ah, cool
[04:01] <kergan> tvon|seattle,  ya really
[04:01] <kergan> lol
[04:01] <tvon|seattle> hah
[04:01] <zenkov> crimsun? :-)
[04:02] <tvon|seattle> I'm only here till Monday
[04:02] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: more that upstream took care of it rather than the evidently broken hack we imported from Debian
[04:02] <tvon|seattle> then its back to MD
[04:02] <LinuxSanta> kamion oh
[04:02] <Arricka> no such file or directory for both of them
[04:02] <crimsun> zenkov: any reason you want 3 instead of 2?
[04:02] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Whatever works :)
[04:02] <kergan> tvon|seattle, thats cool visting family
[04:02] <crimsun> Arricka: are you using mplayer 1.0pre5?
[04:02] <Arricka> I'm using mplayer...let me check which version
[04:03] <tvon|seattle> kergan: yeah.  My mother was raised here, so her family lives in the area
[04:03] <kergan> tvon|seattle,  i feguered i have lived in wenatchee pritty much all my life
[04:03] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  everyone kept saying they had no problems and i kept thinking i was installing wrong
[04:03] <LinuxSanta> i wasnt sure what the cause was
[04:03] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  lol i thank that some times
[04:03] <Arricka> ...I'm having trouble finding the version number somewhere...
[04:04] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: it's been pretty much a FAQ
[04:04] <kergan> not casues buy that bug
[04:04] <kergan> just in other distros
[04:04] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  i see
[04:04] <Arricka> I got it by adding hoary to my sources briefly(as listed on one of the Ubuntu forums) and getting the package
[04:04] <LinuxSanta> kamion is (#1566 the bug # in bugzilla?
[04:04] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: yeah
[04:05] <Arricka> should I try switching my audio driver to something else?
[04:05] <LinuxSanta> ok ill check into the bug
[04:05] <Kamion> http://lwn.net/Articles/86835/ has repair instructions in case array 2 doesn't auto-repair it
[04:05] <Arricka> the gnome sound effects are certainly working...
[04:05] <LinuxSanta> see if its the same as what i experienced it
[04:05] <LinuxSanta> kamion i repaired my stuff using fixmbr
[04:05] <kergan> Arricka,  i disabled thoes
[04:05] <LinuxSanta> but i removed ubuntu for the time being
[04:06] <LinuxSanta> i was going to setup ntloader instead
[04:06] <kergan> Arricka,  then killed the esd it plays tharu
[04:06] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: fixmbr doesn't always do it
[04:06] <zenkov> crimsun hm...
[04:06] <LinuxSanta> with my dell i can press a function key to boot directly into 2nd hd
[04:06] <LinuxSanta> so a root partition will prolly work without anything
[04:06] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  fixmbr in windows fixed everything right up so i was able to get right back into windows
[04:07] <Arricka> kergan, so what should I do to fix it then?
[04:07] <LinuxSanta> fixmbr from the windows cd
[04:07] <tvon|seattle> mdz: you around?
[04:07] <tvon|seattle> kergan: where is it exactly?  I'm not too familiar with the state
[04:07] <Kamion> yes, it varies from system to system AIUI
[04:07] <kergan> tvon|seattle,  dead center
[04:07] <kergan> Arricka,  disable the sound server in sounds under prefferences (of gnome)
[04:08] <kergan> Arricka,  then start the systuim montor and kill esd
[04:08] <kergan> then try to play your files
[04:08] <kergan> some times esd and oss and alsa colide hard
[04:09] <kergan> at least thats my experence with other distros
[04:09] <Arricka> okay...give me a sec, I'll tell you if that works
[04:09] <LinuxSanta> kamion whats interesting is the person went into partition magic
[04:09] <LinuxSanta> which gave the error
[04:09] <LinuxSanta> so there was more insight as to the cause
[04:10] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  what was the error
[04:11] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  I didnt get any verbal errors
[04:11] <LinuxSanta> my windows hd would get corrupted
[04:11] <kergan> hmmm
[04:11] <LinuxSanta> i mean
[04:11] <LinuxSanta> i couldnt get into windows from grub
[04:12] <LinuxSanta> the mbr was the issue in my case
[04:12] <LinuxSanta> yeah someone had a dell like me
[04:12] <LinuxSanta> should be squashed soon enuff
[04:12] <kergan> ya
[04:13] <kergan> you guys are worken hard
[04:13] <kergan> and its a damn fine os
[04:13] <Arricka> well, it looks like it's getting further along towards playing the DVD, it resizes the window. but it still gives me the error: alsa-control: mixer attach /dev/mixer error: No such file or directory
[04:13] <kergan> Arricka,  tell that progam to use esd to play sound thru
[04:13] <Arricka> okay
[04:15] <LinuxSanta> ubuntu really cares about us :)
[04:16] <kergan> yep
[04:16] <LinuxSanta> ubuntu is awesome for a 1st release
[04:16] <LinuxSanta> hoary should be GOLDEN :)
[04:16] <LinuxSanta> as long as we work hard and get those bugs reported
[04:16] <kergan> i love hoary
[04:16] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  I Dont
[04:16] <st3v3n> yeah, i'm ubuntu's bitch
[04:16] <LinuxSanta> i mean not array 1
[04:16] <LinuxSanta> :P
[04:17] <LinuxSanta> array 2 im gonna try now, if it fixes my partition issue ill be happy as heck
[04:17] <kergan> this is just a updated ver of werty
[04:17] <aokaze> WEEEE!  I finaly got my CDs
[04:17] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  Yeah but i did a warty upgrade to hoary and it poofed my windows :P
[04:17] <kergan> i dont have windows to poof
[04:17] <GotD0t> LinuxSanta: lucky you
[04:17] <LinuxSanta> i wasnt sure if it was due to warty or the hoary upgrade
[04:17] <LinuxSanta> kergan heh
[04:17] <LinuxSanta> hoary will fix this tho
[04:18] <LinuxSanta> they are working hard testing fixes
[04:18] <kergan> tho i have a remote winbox(headless(it dont deserver a montor)
[04:18] <LinuxSanta> hehe
[04:18] <aokaze> I have a slite problem.  I boot up the live CD and when x starts my monitor is all messed up all scrambled
[04:18] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  Thing is it happened with other linux distros
[04:18] <LinuxSanta> kergan : I take it alot of distros used libparted?
[04:18] <kergan> yes
[04:18] <Kamion> libparted is very widely used in installers, yes
[04:18] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  i had the problem with novell linux
[04:19] <kergan> mdk ,rh,suse
[04:19] <LinuxSanta> yeah
[04:19] <kergan> the 3 big ones
[04:19] <LinuxSanta> ok so all the distros will have that issue fixed in the next release
[04:19] <LinuxSanta> suse = novell
[04:19] <LinuxSanta> so yeah
[04:19] <kergan> lol
[04:19] <GotD0t> aokaze: thats not bad... thats just an uncleared framebuffer
[04:19] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  That was for me the biggest bug
[04:20] <LinuxSanta> the most annoying bug
[04:20] <kergan> i have had probs with it mdk (my chouce till i switched to ubuntu)
[04:20] <LinuxSanta> the rest was cosmetic/feature related
[04:20] <LinuxSanta> i never had linux crash on me
[04:20] <aokaze> I saw someone do it before but forgot the key combination...  what is the key combination to change video rez and stuff
[04:20] <aokaze> I just have a crappy monitor that cannot take some hz settings
[04:21] <LinuxSanta> kergan novell linux is nice tho
[04:22] <kergan> ya
[04:22] <LinuxSanta> but its not free
[04:22] <kergan> it just never worked the way i used it
[04:22] <LinuxSanta> and ubuntu will be just as nice if not nicer after it gets moving along
[04:22] <kergan> once it gets biger you mean
[04:22] <janc> ubuntu is nice already  :-)
[04:22] <kergan> janc,  i agree
[04:22] <LinuxSanta> janc well yes
[04:22] <LinuxSanta> janc:  but novell has nicer startup screens and the like
[04:23] <LinuxSanta> and has a recovery mode, etc...
[04:23] <kergan> and easer set up too
[04:23] <LinuxSanta> which im sure will be added to ubuntu
[04:23] <LinuxSanta> novell just has the advantage of time
[04:23] <janc> are nice startup screens really that important ?
[04:23] <LinuxSanta> janc:  no i mean more features
[04:23] <aokaze> I would like help to get ubuntu to boot for the proper video settings
[04:23] <kergan> aokaze,  i cant help you
[04:24] <LinuxSanta> janc:  it had some nicities which make getting back into the system easier
[04:24] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: recovery mode in the installer, you mean?
[04:24] <LinuxSanta> if u have issues
[04:24] <janc> aokaze : I've never used ubuntu live cd, but doesn't it have some boot options ?
[04:24] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Like you could with the cd, select the drive to boot into
[04:24] <janc> try F1 F2 etc. at the boot prompt
[04:24] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Etc...
[04:25] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: we should be getting that eventually, I have a preliminary implementation for d-i
[04:25] <aokaze> it comes with boot options but it gives only resolutions too big for my monitor
[04:25] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  i fegured out why libparted is causing probs
[04:25] <LinuxSanta> kamion i know that :) thats why i said novell just has time on its side
[04:25] <LinuxSanta> kergan and why is that ? :)
[04:25] <Kamion> s'pose I should look at NLD's installer to see what the rescue UI is like
[04:25] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  its pay back for winxp taking over the mbr
[04:26] <kergan> after linux is installed
[04:26] <LinuxSanta> lol
[04:26] <kergan> hehehehe
[04:26] <LinuxSanta> payback ? :)
[04:26] <LinuxSanta> microsoft hates linux so.....
[04:26] <kergan> ya
[04:26] <LinuxSanta> kergan nah its a geometry bug
[04:26] <kergan> i know i ya joking
[04:26] <LinuxSanta> kergan microsoft gets blamed for everything cause of their reputation tho :P
[04:26] <LinuxSanta> alot of things they do cause
[04:27] <LinuxSanta> :P
[04:27] <kergan> heheheheh
[04:27] <janc> anyone ever tryed the live cd who can help aokaze ?  :-)
[04:27] <LinuxSanta> oh here was another thing i was wondering:
[04:27] <LinuxSanta> Can you use microsoft fonts in ubuntu?
[04:27] <kergan> look in the werty guide
[04:27] <LinuxSanta> a utility like what mandrake used to have to add windows fonts would be nice
[04:27] <janc> LinuxSanta : of course
[04:27] <kergan> its in thare
[04:27] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  i agree
[04:27] <kergan> that was nice
[04:27] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  im referring to a gui utility like mandrake
[04:28] <kergan> oh
[04:28] <LinuxSanta> ubuntu is only getting started tho :)
[04:28] <kergan> but the gui tool mdk had was nice
[04:28] <LinuxSanta> i hated mandrake as a distro in general
[04:28] <LinuxSanta> but every distro always has nicities
[04:28] <kergan> i liked it casue it made it easy for me to lern
[04:28] <LinuxSanta> that others dont have
[04:28] <kergan> rh was to hard
[04:28] <Quest-Master> k,lLo]
[04:28] <LinuxSanta> kergan:  Mandrake was too large and aloof
[04:29] <Quest-Master> ack
[04:29] <LinuxSanta> it was like everything was all over the place
[04:29] <kergan> ya but it worked
[04:29] <LinuxSanta> ubuntu is 1 cd
[04:29] <LinuxSanta> with gnome
[04:29] <kergan> true
[04:29] <LinuxSanta> and u can add what u want
[04:29] <kergan> thats wot i used from my first linux distro
[04:29] <LinuxSanta> i want to test array 2
[04:29] <LinuxSanta> to make sure this bug is squashed
[04:30] <kergan> heheh
[04:30] <Quest-Master> I hated Mandrake
[04:30] <Quest-Master> Took me a grand 6 hours to install
[04:31] <Quest-Master> And didn't work in the end
[04:31] <Quest-Master> Guys
[04:31] <Quest-Master> I'm having a pretty big problem
[04:31] <kergan> 10.1 took me 30 mins to install and 5 more hrs to get it the way i wanted it
[04:31] <Quest-Master> Gnome won't start
[04:31] <Quest-Master> I'm in XFCE right now
[04:32] <LinuxSanta> this is ubuntu
[04:32] <LinuxSanta> so we talk ubuntu :)
[04:32] <LinuxSanta> no mdk here
[04:32] <janc> XFce4 is nice Quest-Master ;-)
[04:32] <kergan> lol
[04:32] <Quest-Master> I login, and it says "Your last session lasted less than 10 minutes."
[04:32] <LinuxSanta> anyways
[04:32] <LinuxSanta> off to try array2
[04:32] <LinuxSanta> the livecd works perfect FYI
[04:32] <Quest-Master> And then it has more stuff about how I might not have enough disk space, a bad installation, etc etc.
[04:32] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: you mean 10 seconds?
[04:32] <LinuxSanta> the livecd works better than the regular install
[04:32] <Quest-Master> Something like that
[04:33] <LinuxSanta> but livecd had newer stuff like udev and hotplug too
[04:33] <janc> damn, why didn't anyone write a good & nice movie player for linux yet?  (that I could find)
[04:33] <Quest-Master> Harddrive installs > Live CDs in speed for me
[04:33] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: thats a problem with your XFree86 config file
[04:33] <LinuxSanta> quest-master:  Yeah but livecd works :)
[04:33] <Quest-Master> GotD0t: Doesn't sound good.
[04:33] <LinuxSanta> till hoary is golden
[04:33] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: should be easy enough to fix
[04:33] <LinuxSanta> warty breaks my machine
[04:33] <LinuxSanta> for now
[04:34] <LinuxSanta> wait wairt
[04:34] <LinuxSanta> libparted is in the installer right?
[04:34] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: put your XF86Config-4 in a pastebin
[04:34] <Quest-Master> GotD0t: Where is the XFree86 config located?
[04:34] <LinuxSanta> no wonder upgrading to hoary didnt fix my problem
[04:34] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[04:34] <LinuxSanta> the libparted was in the installer
[04:35] <LinuxSanta> ok so array2 it is :)
[04:35] <carajean> does anyone know if linux had a drop screen cmd like windows
[04:35] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  before you run off whats the diference between the difernt iso's in that dir
[04:35] <Quest-Master> GotD0t: Join #flood
[04:35] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: ok
[04:35] <Kamion> LinuxSanta: indeed so
[04:35] <pepsi> hrm, should i be using the 2.6.9 kernel with whorey?
[04:35] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  Yep
[04:36] <kergan> carajean,  ya its called gnome terminal
[04:36] <Kamion> pepsi: yes
[04:36] <LinuxSanta> kamion:  If array2 fixes this then i can finally keep ubuntu on my computer :)
[04:36] <LinuxSanta> i was using the livecd
[04:36] <LinuxSanta> to use it
[04:36] <janc> a "drop screen cmd" = "console" ?  :-/
[04:36] <carajean> where is it located cause world of warcraft froze and i had to restart cause i didnt know a way to get back to the desktkop
[04:36] <LinuxSanta> kamion for me that was my showstopper
[04:37] <LinuxSanta> kamion the rest is all cosmetic and feature stuff
[04:37] <carajean> anyone know if a good dvd player for this distro
[04:37] <kergan> carajean,  xine-ui
[04:37] <carajean> cause the one it comes with is a big laggy
[04:37] <carajean> can i install it using synaptic
[04:37] <maximaus> yes
[04:37] <kergan> yes
[04:37] <carajean> cool
[04:38] <janc> xine-ui is the only decent movie player that works with Ubuntu it seems
[04:38] <janc> but it's but-ugly  :-(
[04:38] <kergan> janc,  yep so does gnome-xine
[04:38] <maximaus> I'll 2nd that--mplayer didn't want to install with synaptic, and totem is OK but a bit laggy as carajean says
[04:38] <janc> gnome-xine doesn't exist anymore  ;)
[04:38] <janc> it's gxine
[04:39] <kergan> thats what i ment
[04:39] <carajean> so how do i install it or will it pop up by itself
[04:39] <janc> but gxine doesn't even know about subtitles it seems...
[04:39] <LinuxSanta> anyways
[04:39] <LinuxSanta> array2
[04:39] <kergan> janc,  maby the next realice of it will fix that
[04:39] <kergan> carajean,  do a search for it
[04:40] <carajean> ok
[04:40] <kergan> then right click it and click install
[04:40] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[04:40] <Quest-Master> carajean: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[04:40] <Quest-Master> carajean: Sure
[04:40] <Quest-Master> carajean: You can play your DVDs through MPlayer or any xine-player like gxine or xine-ui or totem-xine
[04:40] <Quest-Master> janc: MPlayer is great. :)
[04:40] <Quest-Master> janc: If you don't like MPlayer, use gxine. Very efficient and fast
[04:40] <Quest-Master> Don't install MPlayer from apt
[04:40] <Quest-Master> ;)
[04:40] <Quest-Master> Always from source.
[04:40] <Quest-Master> janc: MPlayer does.
[04:41] <Quest-Master> GotD0t: Any idea what to fix? :\
[04:41] <Quest-Master> Hey
[04:41] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: looking
[04:41] <janc> MPLayer works great on Windows, but not on Warty
[04:41] <janc> maybe if I compile it myself...
[04:41] <bob2> please file bugs then
[04:41] <bob2> it works fine for lots of people
[04:41] <carajean> Quest-Master: thanks for the detailed how to install a newb appreciates ur kindness
[04:42] <janc> ( I *do* use MPlayer on Windows actually :-p )
[04:42] <da_bon_bon> i use totem-xine - its a nice player
[04:42] <janc> totem-xine never heard about subtitles either
[04:42] <Quest-Master> carajean: For the MIDIs you mean? :)
[04:43] <carajean> hey i heard there was a winamp like player for linux
[04:43] <Quest-Master> carajean: XMMS and BEEP.
[04:43] <carajean> does it have streaming audio lik elinux
[04:43] <carajean> like linux
[04:43] <Quest-Master> Yep.
[04:43] <carajean> oh goody
[04:43] <janc> http streaming like winamp yes
[04:43] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: how do u install beep from apt-get ?
[04:44] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: what screen res + color depth do you use in XFCE
[04:44] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[04:44] <janc> don't know about decent streaming (rtp and alike)
[04:44] <Quest-Master> GotD0t: Same as was in Gnome. 1280x1024 and 32-bit I believe.
[04:44] <lek> i\
[04:44] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: what does it play? what does it not play?
[04:45] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: there isn't a 32bit color depth entry in your config file
[04:45] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Hm.
[04:45] <Quest-Master> Is it 16?
[04:45] <Quest-Master> Ack
[04:45] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: goes up to 24
[04:45] <Quest-Master> Weird.
[04:45] <janc> anyone ever used and/or worked with multicast streaming on linux ?
[04:45] <Quest-Master> You mean shoutcast?
[04:46] <janc> shoutcast is brain-dead http streaming
[04:46] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: MP3s, OGGs, and you can install plug-ins from apt-get for MODs, MIDIs, and more
[04:47] <Quest-Master> GotD0t: XFCE looks fine though
[04:47] <janc> multicast allows you to send a stream once to reach all "subscribers"
[04:47] <janc> saves *a lot* of bandwith
[04:48] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: its kust like winamp (xmms)
[04:48] <janc> if the network supports it...
[04:49] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: If you right-click, you'll notice it uses GTK2 instead of 1 though. Looks prettier. :)
[04:49] <GotD0t> Quest-Master: i don't know what to say
[04:50] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: yes... so i will use that instead of xmms. what did u s say xmms uses ?
[04:52] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: is b-m-p compatible with winamp ang xmms skins ?
[04:52] <kergan> da_bon_bon, no
[04:52] <Agrajag> what
[04:52] <Agrajag> yes it is
[04:53] <Agrajag> I could have sworn
[04:53] <da_bon_bon> kergan: then i need to get skins for it too?
[04:53] <kergan> hmm i couldnt help ya
[04:53] <Agrajag> no
[04:54] <Agrajag> bmp uses xmms/winamp 2 skins
[04:54] <Agrajag> http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/Skins
[04:55] <kergan> ok i was wrong xmms dont use winamp skins
[04:55] <Agrajag> yes, xmms does use winamp skins.
[04:55] <kergan> dont work for me
[04:55] <Agrajag> are you trying to use skins for winamp 5?
[04:55] <dr_willis> xmms used to use winamp skins..
[04:55] <Agrajag> it does
[04:55] <dr_willis> but with all the new versions - who can be sure :O seems winamp cant use winamp skins at times :P
[04:55] <Agrajag> so does bmp.
[04:56] <Agrajag> christ
[04:56] <kergan> i dont rember how to install them Agrajag
[04:56] <Agrajag> it uses skins for winamp 2.
[04:56] <da_bon_bon> yes, bmp is compatible with xmms skins
[04:56] <LinuxSanta> burning away!
[04:56] <LinuxSanta> array2 for xmas
[04:56] <Agrajag> kergan: read the goddamn link I pasted
[04:56] <Agrajag> http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/User%27s_guide#Skin_Installation
[04:56] <LinuxSanta> be nice
[04:56] <Agrajag> same thing in xmms
[04:56] <LinuxSanta> its xmas after all
[04:56] <Agrajag> xmmsmas
[04:57] <Arricka> hey, what video driver should I be using in mplayer?
[04:57] <Agrajag> xv
[04:57] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Yes, it can use those skins
[04:57] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master, Agrajag: thnx
[04:58] <Quest-Master> GotD0t: :(!
[04:58] <da_bon_bon> can anyone suggest a cool xmms - bmp skin ?
[04:58] <Quest-Master> Oh well.
[04:59] <carajean> ok i downloaded xmms and cant find the stream files place and is there anyway to get a skin that is way bigger
[04:59] <Quest-Master> No Gnome for a while then. Time to learn XFCE
[04:59] <carajean> yeah suggest to me to
[04:59] <Agrajag> skins are all the same size, carajean
[04:59] <merriam> carajean: Ctrl-D
[04:59] <Quest-Master> I use the Debian skin included with bmp. :) looks cool
[04:59] <carajean> damn that thing is small
[04:59] <Agrajag> if you want it bigger, turn on doublesize mode, it's one of the little buttons on the side of the time display
[05:00] <kergan> Quest-Master,  i had the same prob and gnome was only desktop installed so i had to reinstall
[05:00] <Quest-Master> Ok
[05:00] <Quest-Master> Does it remove any of the themes or preferences if I reinstall?
[05:00] <merriam> Agrajag: it's ctrl-D
[05:00] <Quest-Master> kergan: Like, the icon themes I've set, colors, etc.
[05:01] <carajean> ok thanks for the double size
[05:01] <carajean> now for the streaming audi
[05:01] <kergan> Quest-Master,  if your /home dir is on a seprit partion no if your /home is on the same drive yes
[05:02] <occy> anyone know if you can suspend a device ( /dev/cdrom ) while it's being accessed so you can eject the disk and then put the disc back in and resume the access?
[05:02] <Quest-Master> Crap.
[05:02] <Quest-Master> ><
[05:02] <Quest-Master> I'll ask around at the forums.
[05:02] <kergan> Quest-Master,  heheheh good choice
[05:02] <Quest-Master> My /home is on the same partition where Gnome is being reinstalled
[05:03] <Quest-Master> I've already reinstalled Ubuntu 3 times.. hate having to set everything up again
[05:03] <LinuxSanta> yay
[05:03] <kergan> ya maby next time you'll reconsder your partion sheame
[05:03] <LinuxSanta> hoary is here
[05:03] <Quest-Master> XFCE is actually really nice though.
[05:03] <LinuxSanta> if this fixes it ill be amazingly happy
[05:03] <Quest-Master> Fast, lightweight, and similar to Gnome.
[05:03] <LinuxSanta> be back in a flash
[05:03] <carajean> how to make xine my default dvd player
[05:04] <LinuxSanta> however long ubuntu takes to install and download updates :P
[05:04] <LinuxSanta> be back
[05:04] <bob2> occy: what are you trying to do?
[05:05] <Quest-Master> Anyhow, good night all.
[05:06] <occy> bob2: heh, was trying to install windows xp under qemu
[05:06] <carajean> ok im havin trouble how to get a media to play a dvd automatically in my favorite dvd player
[05:06] <occy> needed the reg #  that was on the cd
[05:06] <occy> Could never get that java working :(
[05:06] <kergan> lol
[05:07] <merriam> occy: you want to use windows just for java?
[05:07] <bob2> occy: make an image of the cd first
[05:07] <occy> merriam: Do I want to?  Um, no.
[05:08] <occy> merriam: I've had several people look at it, and noone can figure out the problem with Java on Firefox / Opera / Konq  My dad needs to use this one java app for his work, and I really want them to use Linux, sooo....
[05:09] <merriam> occy: If Java won't work on Ubuntu (I haven't tried), it's probably easier to use Gentoo.  chroot is preferable to emulation.
[05:10] <kergan> occy i have java 1.5.0_01 running just fine
[05:10] <occy> merriam: heh, Java works fine, I can use yahoo games.  It just doesn't work with My Dad's work's website.
[05:10] <occy> see above
[05:10] <merriam> occy: which java?
[05:10] <occy> merriam: 1.5.0_01
[05:10] <Sahand> Hi Peoples, just like to say that Ubuntu has got to be one of the best distro's I have tried to date
[05:11] <occy> Sahand: I concur :)
[05:11] <Sahand> very neat
[05:11] <kergan> folling the ubuntuguide.org instructions with updated dir
[05:11] <occy> merriam: tried 1.4.2 as well
[05:11] <crimsun> occy: what precisely is broken with it?
[05:11] <occy> crimsun: heyaz bud.
[05:11] <Arricka> okay, I'm still having trouble getting mplayer to play a dvd...of course having to go do christmas errands between every solution I try isn't helping...anyhow: the video driver is set to xv, the audio to esd...mplayer runs really slow when I start a dvd, and doesn't display or sound anything. It also crashes after a while and says too many video packets in buffer
[05:11] <occy> crimsun: can't launch the java app.  The sad thing is, it's with a company that I can't let anyone have access to it.
[05:12] <crimsun> occy: heya. Sorry, my responses will be erratic 'cos I'm at work.
[05:12] <occy> crimsun: java can run on other websites just fine.  Yahoo games for example.
[05:12] <occy> crimsun: no worries ;)
[05:12] <occy> this particular java page works fine under Windows IE and Firefox
[05:13] <da_bon_bon> how do i get global hotkeys for bmp/xmms ?
[05:14] <Sahand> well me gots to go, but once again great work, done a great job so far and a lot of work is also needed but it is looking very positive
[05:14] <Sahand> cool, bye
[05:14] <carajean> anyone very use nvclock
[05:14] <carajean> ??
[05:15] <Freakwitch> does anyone else get a loooong delay when launching openoffice in warty? I get the splash screen and then it hangs for several minutes until writer opens
[05:15] <da_bon_bon> what is the official ubuntu logog called?
[05:16] <merriam> occy: Which implementation, not which version.  Sun, I presume.  You could try IBM, or perhaps an older version than 1.4.2.
[05:16] <merriam> occy: or Blackdown
[05:16] <Arricka> so any idea what solves the "too many video packets in buffer error of mplayer? video driver is set to xv
[05:17] <bob2> da_bon_bon: 'the ubuntu logo'
[05:17] <Arricka> this is for playing a dvd, if the input file type makes any difference
[05:17] <occy> merriam: I tried blackdown and also the multiverse version as well as Sun's
[05:18] <occy> :)
[05:18] <da_bon_bon> bob2: ok
[05:18] <linux_galore> ho ho ho
[05:18] <Arricka> should I take off double buffering? should I enable direct rendering?
[05:18] <occy> merriam: you understand now why I'm using qemu?
[05:19] <da_bon_bon> where do i get global hotkeys plugin for xmms / bmp ?
[05:19] <Arricka> or do I want to change off of the xv driver for video
[05:19] <occy> trust me, this is a last resort.
[05:19] <merriam> occy: yes.  Good luck.
[05:20] <LinuxSanta> crap
[05:20] <LinuxSanta> array2 fails on debootstrap
[05:21] <LinuxSanta> is that related to libparted?
[05:21] <LinuxSanta> gonna run a test of the cd just to make sure 1st
[05:22] <LinuxSanta> it should have burned fine
[05:22] <da_bon_bon> how do i install splash screens on ubuntu??
[05:23] <carajean> can ubuntu support gui interface
[05:23] <calc> carajean: it installs gnome gui by default
[05:23] <LinuxSanta> be bakc
[05:24] <LinuxSanta> err back
[05:24] <LinuxSanta> gonna test cd
[05:24] <LinuxSanta> before i report bug
[05:24] <carajean> cool
[05:26] <da_bon_bon> __please__ tell me how to install bootsplash on ubuntu ?
[05:26] <st3v3n> hmm... there's an article somewhere for that
[05:26] <kergan> in the weki
[05:26] <kergan> wiki
[05:26] <bob2> da_bon_bon: dude
[05:27] <da_bon_bon> bob2: yes?
[05:27] <bob2> da_bon_bon: if someone knew, they would tell you.  there's no need to beg or to use multiple question marks.
[05:27] <st3v3n> http://www.desktop-linux.net/bootsplash.htm
[05:27] <da_bon_bon> bob2: i am not begging.. i am asking.
[05:27] <bob2> da_bon_bon: '__please__'
[05:28] <kergan> thats begging
[05:28] <bob2> da_bon_bon: there was really *nothing* in the list archives or website about bootsplash?
[05:28] <da_bon_bon> bob2: got it.
[05:30] <Arricka> so what would solve the error when mplayer tries to play a dvd (I don't know about regular video files yet) of: too many video packets in buffer
[05:30] <Arricka> ?
[05:30] <Arricka> video driver selected is xv
[05:31] <calc> when is ubuntu going to switch to kernel 2.6.10?
[05:31] <bob2> didn't it come out in the past 1 hours?
[05:31] <bob2> on christmas eve?
[05:31] <bob2> when everyone is on holiday?
[05:31] <GotD0t> does anybody know if knoppix comes with openssh-server preinstalled
[05:32] <st3v3n> lol
[05:32] <bob2> GotD0t: #knoppix would know, but it's not called openssh-server there
[05:32] <GotD0t> bob2: what do you mean
[05:32] <st3v3n> gotd0t: yes, it does
[05:32] <GotD0t> thank st3v3n
[05:33] <calc> bob2: it came out several hours ago, someone should have packaged it by now ;)
[05:34] <GotD0t> calc: what did
[05:34] <tvon|seattle> da_bon_bon: Ubuntu currently does not come with any sort of boot splash
[05:35] <tvon|seattle> woah, my connection is laggy
[05:35] <st3v3n> if you go to the ubuntu forums, ubuntuforums.org i believe someone has posted a ubuntu boot splash
[05:35] <calc> GotD0t: kernel 2.6.10
[05:35] <bob2> Arricka: sure you'e using mplayer and not mencoder?
[05:36] <calc> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/USplash/view?searchterm=usplash
[05:36] <calc> that explains what ubuntu is working towards
[05:36] <gwildor> someone posted me a page that had like (how to do <anything> in ubuntu), but i forgot it, does anyone know what i am talking about?
[05:36] <Arricka> bob2: positive
[05:37] <da_bon_bon> tvon|seattle: theres a page in wiki to change splash on gnome - actually i wanted that. what exactly is a bootspash ?
[05:37] <da_bon_bon> *splash
[05:38] <st3v3n> da_bon_bon: basically just linux's copy of what windows does when it boots up
[05:38] <bob2> it just displays some sort of image during boot
[05:39] <bob2> it's one of the more pointless kernel patches around, and hoary will hopefully have a userspace replacement for it
[05:39] <kergan> bob2,  hpfuly
[05:39] <kergan> hopfuly
[05:39] <bob2> ?
[05:39] <da_bon_bon> st3v3n: ok.
[05:39] <kergan> ok one more time hopefuly
[05:40] <kergan> bob2,  sorry couldent spell
[05:40] <da_bon_bon> bob2: what 'userspace' replacement ?
[05:40] <crimsun> (usplash)
[05:41] <calc> see the link i pasted earlier
[05:45] <LinuxSanta> ok my cd failed
[05:45] <LinuxSanta> redownloading and reburning
[05:45] <bob2> er
[05:45] <bob2> you don't need to do that
[05:45] <LinuxSanta> thought array2 was bugged
[05:46] <LinuxSanta> bob2:  Yes i do
[05:46] <bob2> why?
[05:46] <LinuxSanta> the cd is corrupted
[05:46] <kergan> lol
[05:46] <LinuxSanta> i had to reburn
[05:46] <LinuxSanta> im redownloading in case the file was bad
[05:46] <bob2> erm
[05:46] <bob2> you can check if it's corrupted by comparing the md5sums
[05:46] <bob2> if it is, then you can fix it using rsync
[05:46] <LinuxSanta> bob2 and it is corrupted
[05:47] <LinuxSanta> bob2:  Im not using linux
[05:47] <bob2> then rsync it instead of wasting 600MB of bandwidth
[05:47] <carajean> hey could any of u help me install steam using cedega
[05:47] <LinuxSanta> bob2:  huh?
[05:47] <LinuxSanta> i dont want to mirror it
[05:47] <LinuxSanta> whos wasting bandwdith
[05:47] <gwildor> someone posted me a page that had like (how to do <anything> in ubuntu), but i forgot it, does anyone know what i am talking about?
[05:47] <LinuxSanta> im just downloading it, it will be done in like 10 mins
[05:47] <bob2> carajean: try #winex or #cedega
[05:47] <LinuxSanta> i have unlimited bandwidth
[05:47] <bob2> LinuxSanta: er, you downloaded it once, then you're downloading it again?
[05:47] <kergan> gwildor, www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:48] <carajean> they dont want to talk no one is talkin
[05:48] <LinuxSanta> bob2:  To make sure the file corrupted wasnt the problem
[05:48] <LinuxSanta> as a precaution
[05:48] <LinuxSanta> its already half way finished :P
[05:48] <bob2> LinuxSanta: why don't you just rsync it then?
[05:48] <LinuxSanta> im in no rush
[05:48] <LinuxSanta> rsync does what?
[05:48] <bob2> synchronise files that are almost the same
[05:48] <LinuxSanta> bob2 oh u mean so it can fix the bad files ?
[05:49] <Arricka> do I have to do anything to make sure xv is configured correctly?
[05:49] <gwildor> kergan, thnx
[05:49] <bob2> if you have a single bit error, it will download something like a 1/500th of what you're doing now
[05:49] <LinuxSanta> without redownloading the whole thing
[05:49] <bob2> LinuxSanta: yes
[05:49] <kergan> gwildor,  n/p
[05:49] <LinuxSanta> ok
[05:49] <LinuxSanta> well im downloading it
[05:49] <LinuxSanta> it only takes a few mins
[05:49] <LinuxSanta> ill know for next time
[05:49] <Arricka> my sister will want to do a lot of video editing so getting mplayer working is a high priority for me
[05:49] <bob2> mplayer isn't an editor
[05:49] <kergan> just a player
[05:50] <Arricka> no, but you also want to be able to play it afterwards
[05:50] <da_bon_bon> LinuxSanta: does array2 work ?
[05:50] <Arricka> I've already got the editor working
[05:50] <kergan> then use xine-ui for playing it
[05:50] <gwildor> ahhhhh.....45 min hoary upgrade
[05:50] <kergan> gxine
[05:50] <LinuxSanta> 611kb/second downloads
[05:51] <LinuxSanta> da_ my cd was bad
[05:51] <LinuxSanta> im redownloading now
[05:51] <LinuxSanta> just to make sure
[05:51] <LinuxSanta> da:  Ill reinstall on the next go round
[05:51] <da_bon_bon> ok
[05:52] <carajean> winex nobidy is talkin could some plz take time and help
[05:52] <carajean> nobody i mwa
[05:52] <kergan> carajean,  i dont know wine or winex
[05:52] <da_bon_bon> g\uys go here:
 ok one more time hopefuly
 bob2,  sorry couldent spell
 bob2: what 'userspace' replacement ?
 (usplash)
[05:52] <da_bon_bon> <-- Freakwitch<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
 see the link i pasted earlier
[05:52] <crimsun> carajean: are you using wine, winex, or cedega?
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[05:53] <bob2> carajean: maybe talk to transgaming?  presumably you get support for your $5/month...
[05:53] <bluefoxicy> what huh?
[05:53] <kergan> ouch bob2
[05:53] <bob2> kergan: hrm?
[05:54] <kergan> remind me not to piss you off bob2
[05:54] <crimsun> kergan: that was a courtesy muzzle
[05:54] <bob2> er, that was to stop his paste flooding the channel
[05:54] <da_bon_bon> bob2: it was a mistake in pasting..
[05:54] <kergan> bob2,  i am a oper on my network
[05:54] <bob2> da_bon_bon: I know, I just didn't want it to flood everyone :)
[05:54] <bob2> kergan: ok...
[05:54] <da_bon_bon> i wanted to paste this: http://andrius.esu.lt/10/go2.htm
[05:54] <kergan> bob2,  and that scaired me
[05:55] <da_bon_bon> bob2: so what i typed didnt appear on veryones screen ?
[05:55] <GotD0t> bah, ok does anybody know how i can get a file off my windows computer without having to set up samba sharing?
[05:55] <bob2> da_bon_bon: only up until the point I set +q, what you're saying now is here
[05:55] <vladster> does anyone have a suggestion for a utility that would capture MP3 streams from the internet?
[05:55] <bob2> vladster: mplayer, -streamdump
[05:55] <GotD0t> vladster: well you can set up xmms to read the stream and configure it to save to the hard disk
[05:55] <|QuaD-> is there a way to get xine to play a bin/cue?
[05:56] <kergan> GotD0t,  put the hdd in your puter and then mount it and copy the files off
[05:56] <GotD0t> kergan: i was hoping it wouldn't come to that
[05:56] <GotD0t> kergan: hehe
[05:56] <bob2> GotD0t: scp
[05:56] <da_bon_bon> bob2: but if i flooded, how did u instantly set +q , so that it didnt come on everyones screen ?
[05:56] <vladster> would that bew in a config file for xmms?
[05:56] <kergan> GotD0t,  thats your options with out seting up samba
[05:56] <bob2> da_bon_bon: quick reflexes?
[05:57] <kergan> lol bob2
[05:57] <GotD0t> vladster: nah, just set the output plugin to be the disk writer plugin
[05:57] <GotD0t> bob2: i tried getting openssh to work on it, but i cant seem to login
[05:57] <GotD0t> bob2: gives me error 22
[05:58] <gwildor> GotDot, login to an irc client on you windows box, and dcc it to yourself
[05:58] <da_bon_bon> bob2: really quick, i must say. or was it an auto bot ?
[05:58] <|QuaD-> how do i play a bin/cue (vcd) in xine?
[05:58] <GotD0t> gwildor: i tried that... it failed
[05:58] <gwildor> idk then....sorry
[05:58] <kergan> gwildor, thats pretty ingeanus
[05:58] <GotD0t> gwildor: and it cut off the file...
[05:58] <gwildor> kergan, thnx :)
[05:58] <kergan> GotD0t, just delit then
[05:58] <GotD0t> kergan: huh?
[05:59] <bob2> da_bon_bon: 'twas manual...
[05:59] <kergan> after you dcc it to your self
[05:59] <bob2> |QuaD-: you probably don't
[05:59] <kergan> since your on that box just del the file after its sent
[05:59] <kergan> thru dcc
[05:59] <GotD0t> kergan: i cant... for two reasons the transfer fails and even if it didn't fail i wouldn't get the entire thing... it seems to cut it off at 2gb
[05:59] <bob2> |QuaD-: it'd be easier to rerip whatever it is in a sane format like mpeg
[05:59] <|QuaD-> bob2: any good converting tools?
[05:59] <|QuaD-> i don't have the original here :(
[05:59] <GotD0t> kergan: xchat tells me the file is 2gb... when its really 6
[06:00] <bob2> |QuaD-: bchunk can make an iso at least
[06:00] <gwildor> GotDot, what are tying to transfer?
[06:00] <bob2> hah, xchat doesn't support LFS, film at 11
[06:00] <GotD0t> gwildor: an ISO of a dvd
[06:00] <kergan> GotD0t, so your going to have to put the hdd in to your linux box
[06:00] <GotD0t> kergan: i don't have any room
[06:00] <|QuaD-> bob2: that won't do much... i tried using mplayer... gives me SOOO many errors
[06:00] <bob2> |QuaD-: bcunk doesn't work?
[06:01] <GotD0t> kergan: i do have one option though... ubuntu live cd
[06:01] <|QuaD-> bob2: it would.... i don't knwo how to use it... couldn't figure out the man
[06:01] <GotD0t> kergan: mount it and then ssh... easy configuration
[06:01] <kergan> GotD0t, yep
[06:01] <|QuaD-> bob2: you know the syntax?
[06:02] <bob2> |QuaD-: er, it looks kinda clear?
[06:03] <kergan> |QuaD-,  ya its bchunk the.cue the.bin nameyouwanthere
[06:03] <bob2> |QuaD-: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo
[06:03] <kergan> and it will convert to iso
[06:03] <LinuxSanta> here goes nothing
[06:03] <LinuxSanta> 2nd burn
[06:03] <|QuaD-> bob2, kergan: thanks let me try it
[06:03] <LinuxSanta> ubuntu = lucky 7 on distrowatch :)
[06:04] <LinuxSanta> thats a great oman
[06:04] <kergan> woohoo
[06:04] <da_bon_bon> if i want to search in the complete computer, i say '/' in search as location, and it returns 'no files found' in a second..?
[06:04] <|QuaD-> bob2, kergan: should the new file be .iso?
[06:04] <bob2> |QuaD-: it will be foo.something
[06:05] <|QuaD-> but its an iso right?
[06:05] <bob2> da_bon_bon: you need to be a lote more specific when asking questions
[06:05] <kergan> foo.iso
[06:05] <kergan> yes
[06:05] <LinuxSanta> man
[06:05] <bob2> |QuaD-: it depends what was in the bin file...didn'y you make it?
[06:05] <LinuxSanta> what can i do with a pile of ubuntu cds i had shipped to me ? :)
[06:05] <LinuxSanta> the cds area already outdated
[06:05] <da_bon_bon> bob2: like in my previous question, what more specifics are needed ?
[06:05] <LinuxSanta> i just burnt array2 of hoary
[06:05] <|QuaD-> bob2: nope... friend did
[06:06] <bob2> da_bon_bon: for example, I think you mean: "When using the gnome search tool, putting / as the search location makes it return imediately, regardless of the search string"
[06:06] <LinuxSanta> should i reship ubuntu warty cds?
[06:06] <bob2> LinuxSanta: er, warty is not outdated
[06:06] <LinuxSanta> bob2:  For me it is :P
[06:06] <da_bon_bon> bob2: yes.
[06:06] <kergan> bob2,  and me too
[06:06] <bob2> ?
[06:06] <LinuxSanta> bob2:  Im trying hoary array 2 cd
[06:06] <LinuxSanta> it has a new installer which MAY have fixed my partitioning problem
[06:06] <da_bon_bon> anyone out here spanish ?
[06:06] <bob2> what do you guys use your computers for?
[06:06] <bob2> da_bon_bon: #ubuntu-es
[06:07] <LinuxSanta> da:  ?Que tal?
[06:07] <LinuxSanta> da:  ubuntu-es por favor
[06:07] <kergan> yes pleas
[06:08] <bob2> ?
[06:08] <|QuaD-> kergan, bob2: i get a line that says Reading the cue file, it waits a while, then a line that says writing tracks... then its done, no file though
[06:08] <kergan> dont ask casue i dont even know
[06:08] <|QuaD-> no iso to be found
[06:08] <bob2> |QuaD-: it produced nothing at all?
[06:09] <LinuxSanta> ok let me pray this iso works
[06:09] <kergan> look in the dir you ran it in
[06:09] <bob2> LinuxSanta: why don't you just check the md5sum before burning it?
[06:09] <|QuaD-> bob2: nope
[06:09] <|QuaD-> bchunk 1.cue 1.bin 1.iso
[06:09] <kergan> dont put the .iso
[06:09] <kergan> at the end
[06:09] <bob2> that's not what kergan, I or the man page said to do.
[06:09] <kergan> it breaks creating the file
[06:10] <|QuaD-> o... ok... thats kind of counter intuitive
[06:10] <kergan> just do bchunk 1.cue 1.bin 1
[06:10] <kergan> thats it i'll will put the .ios
[06:10] <kergan> .iso
[06:10] <kergan> hehehe
[06:10] <|QuaD-> yeaj i am trying now
[06:10] <|QuaD-> thanks :)
[06:10] <bob2> well, it's not making an iso, it's dumping out whatever's in the .bin file
[06:11] <kergan> ya basickly its juet renaming it
[06:11] <kergan> so to speak
[06:11] <|QuaD-> its doing it to an iso though... right?
[06:11] <kergan> but its got to know how to read it
[06:11] <bob2> no
[06:11] <kergan> |QuaD-, yes
[06:11] <da_bon_bon> man its great - ubuntu is 9 on dw
[06:11] <bob2> it's extracting whatever is in the .bin file
[06:11] <|QuaD-> now i am confused
[06:11] <bob2> can't you ask your "friend" what's in it?
[06:12] <janc> it was 9 las tweek already...
[06:12] <|QuaD-> if he wasn't at mass
[06:12] <|QuaD-> i know what in it
[06:12] <bob2> distrowatch numbers are completely meaningless, tho
[06:12] <|QuaD-> a movie
[06:12] <kergan> |QuaD-, that might be the prob
[06:13] <|QuaD-> ?
[06:13] <kergan> it cant convert bin/que svcd or vcds to iso
[06:13] <|QuaD-> so how can i watch this in totem-xine?
[06:13] <|QuaD-> thats my basic goal
[06:13] <|QuaD-> i get alsa errors when i try anything in mplayer (though the video works)
[06:13] <kergan> burn it
[06:14] <|QuaD-> thats the only way?
[06:14] <kergan> the copy the mpg off
[06:14] <crimsun> |QuaD-: regarding /dev/mixer?
[06:14] <|QuaD-> crimsun: yeah
[06:14] <|QuaD-> crimsun: you know how to fix?
[06:14] <|QuaD-> i am too lazy to do that research now
[06:15] <crimsun> |QuaD-: the easy way is to use oss emulation
[06:15] <|QuaD-> crimsun: how
[06:16] <crimsun> mplayer -ao oss
[06:16] <|QuaD-> gmplayer -ao oss?
[06:16] <crimsun> sure, if you want the gui
[06:16] <|QuaD-> wow it works!!!
[06:16] <|QuaD-> that was easy!
[06:16] <crimsun> the long way is to construct an ~/.asoundrc with ctl. definition(s) for the the pcm. matches
[06:16] <|QuaD-> thanks :)
[06:16] <calc> a full size vcd mpg file is too big to fit on a regular cd
[06:17] <calc> vcd doesn't use error correction so can fit more data on a disk
[06:17] <da_bon_bon> after how many days do arrays of hoary isos come out ?
[06:17] <da_bon_bon> can i use a burnt hoary iso to update my system ?
[06:18] <gwildor> i would assume so
[06:18] <|QuaD-> mplayer doesn't resize video?
[06:18] <kergan> da_bon_bon,  why not just add the hoary sources and to a smart upgrade using synaptic
[06:18] <crimsun> |QuaD-: in what sense?
[06:18] <crimsun> |QuaD-: -zoom | -xy ?
[06:18] <|QuaD-> crimsun: the image
[06:18] <|QuaD-> crimsun: gmplayer
[06:19] <crimsun> I've always done it with -xy foo
[06:19] <da_bon_bon> kergan: i have limited bandwidth and am thinking of downloading iso at a cafe.
[06:19] <|QuaD-> crimsun: what is foo?
[06:19] <|QuaD-> what type of falue
[06:19] <crimsun> a positive integer
[06:19] <|QuaD-> meaning what?
[06:20] <crimsun> relative to the original size.
[06:20] <crimsun> 1 == 100%
[06:20] <crimsun> 2 == 200%
[06:20] <crimsun> etc.
[06:20] <da_bon_bon> kergan: instead of synaptic, can i use apt-get upgrade ??
[06:20] <kergan> yes
[06:20] <|QuaD-> ahh thanx
[06:20] <kergan> if hoary soures are added
[06:21] <da_bon_bon> ok
[06:24] <da_bon_bon> ogra: hi ru here ?
[06:26] <GotD0t> da_bon_bon: i dont think so, but i am
[06:26] <GotD0t> da_bon_bon: hehe
[06:27] <da_bon_bon> GotD0t: are u same as ogra ?
[06:27] <GotD0t> da_bon_bon: no, but i might be able to help
[06:28] <GotD0t> da_bon_bon: unless you wanted to just talk to him, in which case i might not be able to substitute
[06:28] <kergan> but i could
[06:28] <kergan> lol
[06:29] <da_bon_bon> GotD0t: ok. i am unable to install mplayer, because certtain marillat packages have changed, and i will never be able to use those packages in warty. so do i remove those lines from sources.list ??
[06:29] <GotD0t> da_bon_bon: why cant you use them in warty?
[06:29] <kergan> should be able too
[06:30] <LinuxSanta> cant win
[06:30] <GotD0t> LinuxSanta: neither can i
[06:30] <LinuxSanta> it fixes my boot partition problem
[06:30] <LinuxSanta> with array 2
[06:30] <LinuxSanta> but x wont load
[06:30] <GotD0t> i believe i just euthanized the families computer
[06:30] <LinuxSanta> i get a regular login prompt
[06:30] <LinuxSanta> no x
[06:31] <LinuxSanta> and it failed when it did the updates
[06:31] <LinuxSanta> for hoary
[06:31] <LinuxSanta> which may be part of the problem
[06:31] <kergan> LinuxSanta,  lol
[06:31] <LinuxSanta> i think ill wait for hoary final

[06:31] <LinuxSanta> hopefully array 3 will be better
[06:31] <LinuxSanta> :)
[06:32] <da_bon_bon> GotD0t: soemthin about christian syncing the packages with sid
[06:32] <LinuxSanta> gotd0t:  On xmas too
[06:32] <LinuxSanta> how evil
[06:32] <LinuxSanta> alala
[06:32] <GotD0t> LinuxSanta: well it was an accidenty
[06:32] <LinuxSanta> i hear ya
[06:32] <LinuxSanta> gotd0t:  Always install on a seperate hd
[06:32] <LinuxSanta> i have a 2nd hd for linux
[06:32] <LinuxSanta> but .........
[06:32] <LinuxSanta> it keeps breaking my boot partition :(
[06:33] <LinuxSanta> so i gotta keep reruning fixmbr
[06:34] <Crane> hello
[06:34] <da_bon_bon> GotD0t: soemthin about christian syncing the packages with sid
[06:34] <Crane> whew santa is tired
[06:34] <LinuxSanta> www.santanorad.org
[06:34] <GotD0t> da_bon_bon: i dunno
[06:34] <LinuxSanta> :P
[06:34] <Crane> lol
[06:34] <LinuxSanta> err www.noradsanta.org
[06:34] <LinuxSanta> sorry
[06:34] <Crane> lol
[06:34] <GotD0t> well im gonna go try and resurrect the computer, my dad might be pissed
[06:34] <Crane> already been there with the kids
[06:35] <LinuxSanta> heh
[06:35] <Crane> kids asleep, presents out
[06:35] <Crane> yea
[06:35] <Crane> how is every one this evening?
[06:36] <Crane> oops
[06:36] <da_bon_bon> my default browsers been set to lynx. how do i change it ?
[06:36] <zenwhen> why would you
[06:37] <zenwhen> the internet is faster without those sily images
[06:37] <da_bon_bon> i want firefox to be defualt
[06:37] <zenwhen> lol
[06:37] <zenwhen> Computer -> Desktop Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[06:37] <Crane> click computer>desktop preferences> prefered applications
[06:38] <Crane> lol
[06:38] <da_bon_bon> thank u very much both of u :)
[06:38] <Crane> yea what he said
[06:38] <Crane> ;)
[06:39] <plasmo> select mozilla/netscape 6 if u want firefox to be default
[06:39] <da_bon_bon> how do i minimize xmms to the taskbar ?
[06:39] <plasmo> dont select firefox/firebird
[06:39] <Crane> I think I'll be installing ubuntu on my old laptop tomorrow
[06:39] <da_bon_bon> plasmo: the only option i get is 'debian sensible browser'
[06:40] <plasmo> :0
[06:40] <Crane> I get mozilla firefox
[06:41] <Crane> try selecting Custom Web Browser
[06:41] <plasmo> and type in mozilla-firefox
[06:41] <Crane> and enter Mozilla FireFox
[06:42] <Crane> just wondering
[06:42] <da_bon_bon> ok
[06:42] <Crane> I have mozilla-firefox %s on mine
[06:42] <Crane> what does the %s
[06:42] <plasmo> yeah thats right
[06:42] <da_bon_bon> how do i make _zip_ archive or bz2 archive in file roller ?
[06:42] <Crane> mean?
[06:42] <plasmo> the url
[06:43] <plasmo> location
[06:43] <Crane> oh ok
[06:43] <Crane> thanks
[06:43] <plasmo> ;)
[06:44] <plasmo> file-roller > file > new > select bzip or zip etc
[06:44] <Crane> da_ selecting new archive then arhive type lets you make a zip
[06:45] <da_bon_bon> ok got it.
[06:45] <carajean> does ubuntu like tgz files???
[06:45] <plasmo> o_o
[06:45] <crimsun> carajean: sure
[06:45] <crimsun> carajean: dunno why it wouldn't; those are just gzipped tar files
[06:46] <Crane> lol
[06:46] <Crane> we gotta stop meeting like this
[06:46] <janc> Crane: what's an "old laptop" ?  :-)
[06:46] <da_bon_bon> plasmo: put on your specs ?
[06:46] <plasmo> p1 133mhz 16mb ed ram :d
[06:46] <Crane> IBM thinkpad
[06:46] <Crane> it's like a 233 mhz
[06:47] <plasmo> da_bon_bon: wats spec @_@
[06:47] <da_bon_bon> spectacles -> o_o   :D
[06:47] <janc> my laptop is a P166MMX with 64 MiB  :)
[06:47] <plasmo> woah
[06:47] <Crane> so ubuntu works good on it?
[06:47] <janc> Compaq Armada
[06:48] <janc> Ubuntu works, except for the soundcard
[06:48] <Crane> Thats about like mine
[06:48] <Crane> you turn it on then take a shower or something while it starts
[06:48] <plasmo> amd xp1800+ 512ddr ram  here:p
[06:48] <Crane> :P
[06:48] <janc> and I use XFce4 on it instead of Gnome desktop  ;-)
[06:48] <plasmo> yeah same. i prefer xfce4
[06:48] <Crane> Xfce is faster isn't it
[06:49] <plasmo> yep
[06:49] <janc> at least on such an old computer
[06:49] <Crane> I tried flux but got lost in configuring it
[06:49] <janc> Gnome takes forever to start  :-p
[06:49] <Crane> yep
[06:49] <Crane> I think KDE is worse
[06:49] <janc> maybe
[06:49] <plasmo> blah i dont like kde
[06:50] <plasmo> too many stuff lol
[06:50] <Crane> I've tried it many times and always end up back on gnome
[06:50] <janc> IceWML is a little faster than XFce4, but it loks like it was designed in the 1980s  ;)
[06:50] <janc> IceWM
[06:50] <gwildor> lol ....1981
[06:50] <plasmo> xfce4 is fast and looks nice. thats why im with it :)
[06:50] <Crane> is that the one that looks like that unstable OS
[06:50] <Crane> lol
[06:51] <plasmo> http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overview&lang=en
[06:51] <Crane> windows?
[06:51] <Crane> is it hard to install?
[06:52] <plasmo> xfce4? :o
[06:52] <crimsun> xfce4 is quite straightforward to install
[06:52] <janc> both show up in gdm after a reboot...
[06:52] <gwildor> 4.2RC aslo works in ubuntu
[06:53] <smo> anyone know off-hand where nautilus-cd-burner puts the temporary iso while it burns?
[06:53] <GoneBoB> smo: it doesn't
[06:53] <GoneBoB> it writes it on the fl
[06:53] <GoneBoB> y
[06:53] <crimsun> Crane: just enable 'universe' and install 'xfce4'
[06:53] <plasmo> or if u want the newer xfce4 http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/
[06:53] <smo> it certainly appears to .. it spends half a year creating the image before the writer shows any movement at all :/
[06:53] <Crane> cool thanks
[06:54] <janc> IIRC ubuntu-bp has a newer version of XFce4 too
[06:54] <gwildor> how well does xfce run on that 233?.....related to flux??
[06:54] <da_bon_bon> hey, howz  "xine-ui" ??
[06:54] <janc> xine-ui is ugly
[06:54] <da_bon_bon> or rather, what is xine-ui?
[06:54] <janc> but it works  :)
[06:54] <crimsun> gwildor: flux is lighter weight than xfce
[06:54] <GoneBoB> smo: hrm
[06:55] <crimsun> janc: those need to be updated. Benny synced with 4.2RC3 yesterday.
[06:55] <Crane> yep flux is really light but lots of configing
[06:55] <GoneBoB> smo: I would imagine in /tmp somewhere
[06:55] <gwildor> crimsun, i know, but i was asking about performance on that 233, ie, ther isnt any diff at all on my box
[06:55] <smo> GoneBoB: Perhaps warty/hoary differences .. I just found it in /tmp (surprise surprise  lol).
[06:55] <crimsun> gwildor: I find flux to be marginally "faster" for values of "fast"
[06:55] <janc> XFce4 takes a littel longer than icewm of flux to start up
[06:55] <crimsun> gwildor: granted, I don't even have a working X session currently
[06:56] <janc> but once started you won't see a difference in speed I think
[06:56] <gwildor> crimsun, i was just wondering, i am getting a laptop with the same specs, need to know if i shoulde instal ubuntu base, and get xfce, or jsut go with DSL
[06:56] <gwildor> janc, kk......thnx
[06:57] <crimsun> gwildor: well, I recommend Ubuntu (of course)...
[06:57] <gwildor> lol
[06:57] <plasmo> hah
[06:57] <janc> I just installed full ubuntu (to try) and then added xfce4
[06:57] <janc> then in gdm choose xfce4 as the default
[06:57] <gwildor> janc, really, on that 233.......how long gnome take to start?
[06:58] <janc> like...  5 minutes?  (at least ;)
[06:58] <janc> (it's a 166 btw)
[06:58] <Crane> how do I install Xfce from bachport?
[06:58] <Crane> backport
[06:58] <crimsun> Crane: follow the directions on the front page.
[06:59] <janc> CRUX with XFce4 took < 30 seconds to boot on the same P166MMX with 64 MiB...
[06:59] <gwildor> crux?
[06:59] <Crane> soryy my bad should have read first
[06:59] <crimsun> gwildor: another distro
[06:59] <Crane> sorry
[07:00] <gwildor> oh
[07:00] <janc> that's boot into the desktop (including me entering username & password)
[07:00] <janc> CRUX is a source based distro (you have to compile everything yourself)
[07:00] <gwildor> hmmmmm, that was an ubuntu install on a ?166?
[07:00] <gwildor> oh yeah.....crux
[07:00] <janc> yes :)
[07:01] <gwildor> well, ill give ubuntu a shot on the 233
[07:01] <janc> it's slow, but it works
[07:02] <janc> how much RAM does it have ?
[07:02] <gwildor> 64mb, i think
[07:02] <crimsun> as long as it has >32, you'll be ok.
[07:02] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[07:03] <plasmo> hello
[07:03] <GotD0t> hi
[07:03] <GotD0t> well the computer isn't dead
[07:03] <da_bon_bon> anyone know eher i can get xp-like transparent icons for ubuntu ?
[07:03] <GotD0t> it just seems to have a fried optical drive
[07:03] <janc> da_bon_bon : what you mean ?
[07:03] <janc> icons are transparent here ?
[07:04] <plasmo> xp transparent icons? o_O
[07:04] <da_bon_bon> janc: i want xp-like icons for ubuntu
[07:04] <plasmo> xp icons for ubuntu D:
[07:04] <da_bon_bon> plasmo: semi-transparent, or whatever, can u please tell me where ?
[07:05] <plasmo> i dunno lol
[07:05] <janc> try some skin/theme/icons/wallpapers/etc. sites ?
[07:05] <GotD0t> does anybody know why some of the gnome-games dont work
[07:06] <janc> which game(s) ?
[07:06] <GotD0t> the yahtzee clone specifically
[07:06] <GotD0t> tali
[07:07] <plasmo> mmm yeah it didnt load up . lol never noticed that
[07:07] <maximaus> just apt-get kobodeluxe and effectively piss your life away. LOL
[07:07] <da_bon_bon> janc: gnome-look doesnt have.
[07:07] <GotD0t> i want yahtzee
[07:07] <plasmo> apt-get install neverball :)
[07:07] <janc> tali seems to work here
[07:07] <GotD0t> janc: are you on warty?
[07:07] <janc> yes
[07:08] <janc> warty
[07:08] <GotD0t> thats why
[07:08] <plasmo> whory here :/
[07:08] <da_bon_bon> GotD0t: tali works on my warty
[07:08] <maximaus> any png icon can be made transparent by editing it in the Gimp. ;)
[07:08] <GotD0t> hoary here as well
[07:08] <janc> hoary is for people who like broken apps
[07:08] <kergan> janc,  not me
[07:08] <janc> otherwise stay with a stable release...
[07:08] <kergan> all is worken
[07:08] <kergan> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.9-1-686 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz 1992.904 MHz Bogomips: 3948.54 Mem: 237/497M [||||||||||]  Diskspace: 36.86G Free: 33.03G Procs: 86 Uptime: 4 hrs 10 mins 25 secs Load: 1.40 1.97 2.00  Screen: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Screen Resolution: 1600x1200 (24 bpp) eth0: In: 1.16G Out: 69.09M
[07:08] <da_bon_bon> plasmo: whats 'whory' ? warty+hoary ?
[07:09] <plasmo> lol
[07:09] <kergan> da_bon_bon,  a mispelling gone away
[07:09] <da_bon_bon> ok
[07:09] <maximaus> whory's the version that "gets out" a lot.
[07:10] <janc> btw: if anyone cares, wingide (closed source python ide) seems to work okay on Ubuntu
[07:10] <kergan> wow in 4hrs manged to transver 1.16gigs
[07:10] <janc> (alien conversion from the rpm download)
[07:10] <skobrosl> anyone here have mono installed?
[07:11] <janc> xmas dinner @ my parents in 5 hours  :)
[07:12] <Crane> what are we having
[07:12] <stuNNed> janc, heh :)
[07:12] <Crane> :)
[07:12] <stuNNed> lol
[07:12] <kergan> santa over norad
[07:12] <kergan> lol
[07:12] <Crane> hmmm I'm having brealfast with mine in 6 hours
[07:12] <janc> and a 45 min drive to do before I get there
[07:12] <Crane> breakfast
[07:13] <GotD0t> im having brunch in 10
[07:13] <janc> so, that makes a max. of 4 hours sleep  :-/
[07:13] <Crane> slepp fast my friend
[07:13] <Crane> sleep
[07:13] <janc> dodo everybody  :-)
[07:13] <Crane> sheesh I can't spell tonight
[07:14] <janc> you drank a little too much like me ?  ;-)
[07:19] <da_bon_bon> how do i view tv if i have a tv tuner card?]
[07:23] <kergan> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.9-1-686 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz 1992.904 MHz Bogomips: 3948.54 Mem: 291/497M [||||||||||]  Diskspace: 36.86G Free: 33.03G Procs: 81 Uptime: 4 hrs 24 mins 50 secs Load: 1.98 2.02 2.02  Screen: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Screen Resolution: 1600x1200 (24 bpp) eth0: In: 1.20G Out: 71.50M
[07:25] <calc> kergan: what prints that?
[07:25] <neighborlee> da_bon_bon, you need : xawtv and possibly others apps...depending on your card no doubt but that should be good start
[07:26] <Crane> calc: there scripts you can add to xchat
[07:26] <calc> oh ok
[07:26] <Crane> http://www.xchat.org
[07:26] <kergan> calc,  its a .tcl for xchat2
[07:27] <Crane> oh what are you using?
[07:27] <calc> irssi
[07:27] <Crane> oh ok
[07:28] <Crane> wow 252 users online
[07:30] <kergan> better
[07:31] <da_bon_bon> neighborlee: thnx
[07:31] <neighborlee> np
[07:40] <kergan> this song rocks
[07:41] <crimsun> kergan: please don't spam the channel, thanks :)
[07:42] <spikeb> howdy folks
[07:42] <crimsun> howdy, spikeb
[07:42] <kergan> sorry no one was talking
[07:42] <kergan> so i was trying to get some one to talk ;)
[07:42] <plasmo> #test :)
[07:43] <kergan> hehehhe
[07:43] <plasmo> i just compiled the xsys plugin
[07:43] <aokaze> question:  I have a computer that I move around a bit but it changes from useing lan card to useing external modem.  when I have the lan card in I cannot go to websites that I dial from the modem but I can do websites fine from the lan card if its connected to a computer with internet.  I at the moment have to remove the lan card from the computer to use modem.  Could someone tell me how to set it up that it wont be a problem
[07:43] <plasmo> all seems to work fine except the /video :/
[07:44] <spikeb> heh
[07:44] <spikeb> it should be quiet, being a yank holiday and all
[07:50] <plasmo> mmm kernel 2.6.10 released
[07:55] <spikeb> wonder what they broke with this release :)
[07:56] <crimsun> nothing.  Its currently afternoon for me
[08:42] <zenrox> tuxJr_14,  whare you from then
[08:42] <tuxJr_14> zenrox: india +0530 gmt
[08:42] <zenrox> ohh kewl
[08:43] <zenrox> i am on the west coast of the usa
[08:44] <tuxJr_14> zenrox: enjoying the fine weather. its chilling over here
[08:45] <zenrox> ya and no snow either
[08:45] <zenwhen> im having a really bad night myself
[08:46] <tuxJr_14> zenwhen: where art thou?
[08:46] <zenrox> zenwhen,  your allways a little off
[08:46] <spikeb> how come?
[08:46] <zenwhen> my leg fell asleep so I cant get up and I am afraid Im going to fart :(
[08:46] <tuxJr_14> btw, merry xmas everybody
[08:46] <zenwhen> you too :)
[08:46] <tuxJr_14> zenwhen: better get some room freshners!
[08:46] <zenwhen> oh no!
[08:47] <zenrox> hehehe
[08:47] <zenrox> ahhhhhh
[08:47] <zenwhen> lol
[08:47] <zenrox> i feel better now
[08:47] <zenrox> how about you
[08:48] <zenrox> welcome mistic
[08:48] <zenwhen> :)
[08:49] <spikeb> i cant tell ya how happy i am to be back using gnome and ubuntu
[08:49] <zenwhen> lol
[08:49] <zenwhen> I think you should shhhh
[08:49] <zenwhen> I could see something bad happening.
[08:49] <zenwhen> This channel isnt #ubuntuforums
[08:49] <zenwhen> :P
[08:49] <zenrox> did i say that out loud
[08:49] <zenrox> lol
[08:49] <spikeb> it's also not #zenwhen
[08:50] <zenrox> hahahha
[08:50] <zenrox> or #zenmen
[08:50] <spikeb> im going ot bed
[08:50] <zenrox> zenwhen, how did you come up with your nick
[08:51] <zenwhen> needed a nick
[08:51] <zenwhen> back in the day
[08:51] <zenwhen> like
[08:51] <zenwhen> 94
[08:51] <zenrox> mine i took too words and put them together zen (from the sobe flavor of zen blend) and the last 3 letters from xerox
[08:52] <zenrox> in 97
[08:52] <zenwhen> lol
[08:53] <zenwhen> I still use the nick though it has been banned from most placed on the net.
[08:53] <zenwhen> Ive been fairly good since coming to the OSS community.
[08:53] <zenwhen> :)
[08:53] <zenwhen> and having grown up
[08:53] <zenwhen> a good deal
[08:53] <zenrox> how old are you
[08:53] <zenwhen> 23
[08:53] <zenwhen> lmao
[08:53] <zenrox> 26 here
[08:53] <zenrox> i am older than you
[08:53] <zenrox> woohoo
[08:54] <zenout> goodnight everyon
[08:54] <zenout> e
[08:54] <zenrox> night zenout
[08:55] <tuxJr_14> zenout: good night. sleep tight. don't let the M$ users bite
[09:07] <nicedreams> what's a linux alternative to gamespy?
[09:08] <crimsun> nicedreams: xqf(6)
[09:09] <nicedreams> nice...thx
[09:09] <nicedreams> that's what i was trying to remember
[09:42] <melazyboy> I have a pretty simple question, i have been running hoary stable for about a month now and i want to dist-upgrade it, in the process im seeing that it will remove libnautilus2-2, can i find out why that package is set to be removed, and what is removing it
[09:44] <melazyboy> nobody?
[09:45] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[09:45] <da_bon_bon> i still have my default browser as lynx, not firefox :(
[09:45] <melazyboy> fascinating
[09:45] <frankps> graphics are overrated
[09:46] <mike_douglas> old school ;)
[09:47] <da_bon_bon> no i want my defult to be firefox
[09:47] <mike_douglas> what is wrong?
[09:47] <melazyboy> open firefox, go tools options, click default browser, click ok
[09:48] <da_bon_bon> theres no "option" in "tools"
[09:48] <Ribs> da_bon_bon, Edit -> Preferences
[09:49] <melazyboy> right edit->preferences.
[09:49] <da_bon_bon> and hten?
[09:49] <da_bon_bon> *then ?
[09:49] <Ribs> da_bon_bon, Then use common sense
[09:49] <melazyboy> click 'default browser', then click 'ok'
[09:49] <melazyboy> lol
[09:49] <Ribs> da_bon_bon, The Default Browser box is right there
[09:50] <da_bon_bon> no. theres only "general, privacy, web feature, advanced" i use FF 1.0
[09:50] <melazyboy> son of a goat whore
[09:50] <melazyboy> its under general.
[09:50] <Ribs> da_bon_bon, By default, General is selected already
[09:51] <Ribs> unless you've been in that menu before
[09:51] <da_bon_bon> ok
[09:52] <melazyboy> I have a pretty simple question, i have been running hoary stable for about a month now and i want to dist-upgrade it, in the process im seeing that it will remove libnautilus2-2, can i find out why that package is set to be removed, and what is removing it
[09:53] <Ribs> da_bon_bon, Talk in the channel, that's why it's here.
[09:53] <Ribs> melazyboy, Can't be that simple, nobody knows the answer :)
[09:53] <melazyboy> yes but logically how difficult or rare can it be?
[09:53] <da_bon_bon> Ribs: i want to send a screenshot, becuase default browser doewsnt appear
[09:54] <Ribs> melazyboy, dunno, tried google?
[09:54] <melazyboy> i mean dpkg is a dependency database
[09:54] <melazyboy> yes i have tried google
[09:54] <Ribs> da_bon_bon, General tab, fourth little box thing down
[09:54] <Ribs> melazyboy, I'm not an expert on dpkg
[09:54] <melazyboy> how vital is libnautilus?
[09:54] <Ribs> I'd say pretty vital
[09:54] <da_bon_bon> Ribs: i am sure it isnt there...
[09:55] <Ribs> Are you sure it isn't installing another version?
[09:55] <Ribs> da_bon_bon, I don't know then.
[09:55] <da_bon_bon> Ribs: please accept a screenshot?
[09:55] <Ribs> da_bon_bon, no
[09:55] <Brikkah> hello, are the IRQ number in windows the same as in Linux ??
[09:55] <da_bon_bon> Ribs: ok. thank u anyways.
[09:55] <calc> melazyboy: the dependency resolver may show you
[09:55] <Ribs> melazyboy, like, remoing 2.2, but adding 2.4 ?
[09:55] <Ribs> Brikkah, IRQ numbers are set by the BIOS
[09:55] <Ribs> Brikkah, So I'd say so.
[09:55] <etorix> i dont see a default setting on that panel either
[09:56] <melazyboy> Ribs: I tried running a dist-upgrade and greping the output no joy for nautilus
[09:56] <Ribs> oh wait, I'm using 1.0
[09:56] <Ribs> could be why
[09:56] <Brikkah> ok, Ubuntu says it disables IRQ #9 but in windows there isn't a #9
[09:56] <Ribs> Brikkah, Does your hardware work?
[09:56] <Ribs> Brikkah, It hasen't broken anything, right?
[09:56] <Brikkah> in windows it does :) and it is dual boot
[09:57] <calc> Debug::pkgProblemResolver
[09:57] <melazyboy> Ribs: It tries to install libnautilus-extension1, libnautilus-burn0, nautilus, nautilus-cd-burner, and nautilus-data, so do you think it really needs libnautilus2-2?
[09:57] <calc> pass that to apt-get to get it to show you the full info
[09:57] <Ribs> melazyboy, Nautilus may not work without it.
[10:02] <da_bon_bon> how do i install a cursor pack?
[10:06] <sukoshi> hi
[10:07] <plasmo`xmas`away> hello
[10:08] <sukoshi> merry christmas :)
[10:08] <plasmo`xmas`away> u too =D
[10:08] <sukoshi> i do have a question regarding Ubuntu Linux
[10:08] <plasmo`xmas`away> go ahead
[10:08] <sukoshi> i use it usually on my professional laptop
[10:09] <sukoshi> yesterday, i installed in on my subnotebook (toshiba portege 3490CT)
[10:09] <sukoshi> the subnotebook doesn"t come with a cdrom reader
[10:09] <sukoshi> so i always need to dismantle it, swap the HDD on a cdromreader equipped PC
[10:09] <sukoshi> and install
[10:10] <sukoshi> after swapping back, it works like a charm
[10:10] <sukoshi> except that it doesn't recognize the eth0 interface
[10:10] <sukoshi> hotplug load all the required module, and dmesg seems to tell that all is good
[10:11] <sukoshi> i'm usually more a gentoo user, not a debianbased distro
[10:11] <sukoshi> the config files are different ;)
[10:11] <Lathiat2> indeed
[10:11] <Lathiat2> sukoshi: lspci, can you see the network controller?
[10:11] <sukoshi> PCMCIA card
[10:11] <Lathiat2> ahh
[10:11] <sukoshi> the wircom_ps2 is loaded
[10:11] <Lathiat2> right
[10:11] <sukoshi> xirmcom
[10:12] <Lathiat2> xircom_ps2?
[10:12] <sukoshi> fuck
[10:12] <sukoshi> xircom
[10:12] <sukoshi> sorry ;)
[10:12] <plasmo`xmas`away> lol
[10:12] <sukoshi> pcmcia is launched
[10:12] <Lathiat2> hmm odd
[10:12] <sukoshi> all seems right
[10:12] <Lathiat2> it worked on other linux?
[10:12] <sukoshi> yeah it used to be on gentoo
[10:13] <Lathiat2> puzzling
[10:13] <sukoshi> when i installed ubuntu last night, there still was gentoo on it
[10:13] <sukoshi> i launched base-config bacl
[10:13] <sukoshi> back but it doesn't help configuring the network
[10:14] <Lathiat2> so ifconfig eth0
[10:14] <Lathiat2> says no device
[10:14] <Lathiat2> the interface isnt just down?
[10:14] <sukoshi> let me power on the laptop :)
[10:19] <rapha> Hi all!
[10:20] <rapha> I'm on Hoary (with X.org) and trying to get my 3D acceleration back (using an NVidia card). But it keeps telling me "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX".
[10:20] <rapha> Could somebody give me a hand with this?
[10:20] <Lathiat2> rapha: try thsi
[10:20] <Lathiat2> rapha: cd /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions
[10:20] <Lathiat2> rapha: ln -s libglx.so libglx.a
[10:21] <Lathiat2> and restart X (logging out isn't sufficient)
[10:21] <Lathiat2> just hit ctrl+alt+backsapce
[10:21] <rapha> Yeah I know, already am on the console for this :)
[10:21] <Lathiat2> that worked for me
[10:21] <Lathiat2> its scary, it doesnt make sense, but it works
[10:22] <melazyboy> any chance you know how to get xorg to work with ati 9800 (trick question)
[10:22] <melazyboy> 3d accel
[10:22] <rapha> Yay, no error message anymore!
[10:22] <Lathiat2> melazyboy: fglrx?
[10:22] <|rufius|> melazyboy: there's ati patches out there everywhere i believe
[10:22] <Lathiat2> rapha: i should but that in the wiki
[10:22] <Lathiat2> rapha: glxgears?
[10:22] <|rufius|> melazyboy: check on http://rage3d.com
[10:22] <sukoshi> ifconfig eth0 works
[10:22] <|rufius|> there ought to be posts about xorg and ati
[10:22] <melazyboy> Lathiat2: Any way possible
[10:23] <melazyboy> |rufius|: checking it out now
[10:27] <rapha> Lathiat2: It works, thanks a heap! ... but there's a wierd abnormal change in framerates, for two seconds they'll be somewhere around 120, then for another two seconds or so at only 10-20 fps...
[10:28] <Lathiat2> rapha: you on a laptop/
[10:29] <melazyboy> |rufius|: Still doens't appear to be a fix
[10:31] <da_bon_bon> hi al
[10:33] <rapha> Lathiat2: Nope, desktop machine. Sempron 2400+ at 1800MHz. And it's an old GeForce2 MX, a PCI card
[10:34] <rapha> Lathiat2: I know this machine can run glxgears smoothly, at _more_ than 5 frames per second, so something's not sound.
[10:34] <rapha> s/machine/configuration to be precise.
[10:35] <etorix> hmm .. mencoders are updating
[10:36] <da_bon_bon> hoe do i change my cursors to ctystalcursors? i already have the tehems/
[10:36] <da_bon_bon> *how
[10:38] <da_bon_bon> why does gnome-look also show kde stuff?
[10:38] <rapha> Lathiat2: HAH! Got it! There was an old process of Chromium still hanging around, hogging CPU. Killed it and all is fine now.
[10:40] <Lathiat2> rapha: haha
[10:40] <Lathiat2> rapha: was gonna say otherwise cpu sclaing on laptops kills it as well
[10:42] <rapha> Lathiat2: Well, my Laptop's a Pentium II at 366MHz, no 3D acceleration. I'd be surprised if it runs glxgears at all ;-)
[10:42] <Lathiat2> haha
[10:42] <da_bon_bon> how do i add a my computer icon on desktop ?
[10:44] <Lathiat2> gconftool-2 --set /apps/nautilus/desktop/computer_icon_visible true --type boolean
[10:51] <lod> hello everybody!
[10:53] <infected-heero17> hi
[10:53] <infected-heero17> :)
[10:53] <infected-heero17> merry xmass
[10:53] <lod> I was just wondering, if anyone could give me a pointer in running memtest from the 0.8.6 gnoppix/ubuntu release...  The /boot/memtest file appears to have gone on holiday.
[10:54] <Lathiat2> lod: gnoppix (afaik) is not ubuntu..
[10:54] <Lathiat2> or at least it wasn't
[10:54] <lod> ahh, could you direct me to the right place?
[10:55] <Lathiat2> if your trying to run memtest86, i'm sure you can get boot floppies for that
[10:55] <lod> The support link from gnoppix went to ubuntu, and the cd seems to call itself ubuntu (splash screens etc.)
[10:55] <Pozac> Gnoppix is a linux live cd based upon Ubuntu Linux.
[10:56] <lod> ahh, right.  I'm pulling the dedicated memtest iso now.
[10:56] <lod> I mainly wanted to find somewhere to report the bug.
[10:56] <lod> Grub has a memtest option, but the boot file isn't in the iso.
[10:58] <rapha> Anybody else here playing Quake 3?
[10:59] <Pozac> rapha, I played it.. do you have problems?
[10:59] <lod> this is the warty live cd
[11:00] <lod> Gnoppix 0.8.2 goes by the name of Warty.
[11:00] <Pozac> ok
[11:02] <lod> md5sum matches the ubuntu warty release.
[11:03] <Pozac> ok then
[11:03] <lod> I'll report it to the ubuntu bugzilla, thanks for the help.
[11:04] <Pozac> lod, do that :)
[11:04] <Sigma> hey guys
[11:04] <Pozac> hi Sigma
[11:04] <Sigma> here is a new german ubuntu-forum: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de
[11:04] <Sigma> =)
[11:04] <Sigma> hi pozac
[11:06] <Sigma> no problem :)
[11:06] <Sigma> most german are able to speak english :)
[11:09] <Pozac> So apparently the danish gov't can save up to 64 million euro's a year, just by switching to openoffice
[11:10] <mike_douglas> anyone try OO.org 2 yet? Suppose to be really good.
[11:14] <lod> yay, Bug 4976 Submitted
[11:16] <will_> HAPPY CHRISTMAS!
[11:17] <Adrenal> are there any progs that can play dvds?
[11:18] <crimsun> sure
[11:18] <Adrenal> and their names would be?
[11:18] <crimsun> see the RestrictedFormats section on the wiki
[11:19] <Adrenal> kk
[11:22] <da_bon_bon> totem xine is really cool
[11:23] <Adrenal> totem xine will play dvds?
[11:24] <da_bon_bon> Adrenal: after u get libdvdcss2
[11:24] <Adrenal> kk
[11:24] <Adrenal> oh
[11:24] <crimsun> ('totem-xine' is the package)
[11:24] <Adrenal> and merry Christmas everyone
[11:25] <da_bon_bon> merry christmas to u to.
[11:25] <Adrenal> ok
[11:25] <Adrenal> installed totem xine
[11:25] <Adrenal> how do i use
[11:25] <da_bon_bon> how do i change xirc input box color
[11:25] <Adrenal> totem-xinbe in terminal returns a no command error
[11:26] <da_bon_bon> Adrenal: like u used to before - just run the mpg4 files and they will play.
[11:26] <Adrenal> mpg4 files?
[11:26] <da_bon_bon> Adrenal: totem-xine replaces totem, hte command remains same.
[11:27] <Adrenal> kk
[11:27] <Adrenal> but, i tried playing the dvd disk in totem before
[11:27] <Adrenal> it didn't work
[11:28] <da_bon_bon> Adrenal: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[11:28] <Adrenal> already done
[11:28] <da_bon_bon> u have the proper repos. right ?
[11:28] <Adrenal> Unexpected/unknown cd type 0x0
[11:28] <Adrenal> yeh
[11:30] <Adrenal> apperently
[11:30] <Adrenal> its not implemented
[11:32] <Adrenal> install xine-ui
[11:32] <da_bon_bon> u got libdvdcss ?
[11:33] <Adrenal> yeh
[11:34] <Adrenal> still nothing
[11:35] <da_bon_bon> Adrenal: apt-get install xine-ui
[11:35] <da_bon_bon> or try vlc
[11:36] <Adrenal> YES
[11:36] <Adrenal> GOT IT
[11:36] <Adrenal> THANK YOU
[11:36] <Adrenal> A THOUSAND THANK YOU'S
[11:36] <Adrenal> meh, later
[11:36] <Adrenal> ...thank you, so much
[11:41] <bobmepis> hi
[11:43] <Sixfoot5_NL> hi
[11:51] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[11:51] <da_bon_bon> how do i add kde to ubuntu ?
[11:52] <da_bon_bon> anyone here??
[11:53] <Josip> hey everybody , just installed unbuntu
[11:54] <Josip> i tried to compile aMule, but when i ./configure i get this <checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables>
[11:54] <Josip> any ideas why this error has occured ? thanks .
[11:54] <siretart> Josip: apt-get install build-essential
[11:55] <siretart> you are missing packages for compiling c++ apps
[11:55] <Josip> build-essential are those packages, right ?
[11:55] <Josip> okay, installed
[11:55] <Josip> configure: error: unable to use zlib - no peer found
[11:56] <siretart> it is a meta-package depending on the compiler's packages
[11:56] <Josip> have to install zlib now :)
[11:56] <siretart> Josip: no, install zlib-dev
[11:56] <mike_douglas> is the python-pygame package broken in hoary for anyone else?
[11:56] <Josip> <apt-get install zlib-dev> ?
[11:56] <siretart> apt-get install zlib1g-dev
[11:57] <Josip> E: Couldn't find package zliblg-dev
[11:57] <mike_douglas> it seems to depend a python version greater than 2.4 (obviously that doesn't exist)
[11:57] <Josip> where can i fidn a list of all packages ?
[11:57] <siretart> Josip: btw, did you try the debian package for amule? perhaps less efford installing it
[11:57] <Josip> it's out dated
[11:58] <Josip> http://www.amule.org/files/files.php?cat=15
[11:58] <Josip> no such file .
[11:58] <siretart> 1.2.6+rc7-2 is outdated?
[11:58] <siretart> I dont know about amule, I'm using mldonkey
[11:59] <Josip> 2.0 is the latest version .
[11:59] <siretart> ah, I see.
[11:59] <Josip> i'll try mldonkey ;)
[11:59] <plasmo> download the rpm and alien it ;p
[12:00] <Josip> alien ?
[12:00] <Josip> damn i have to install apache and php and mysql now .
[12:00] <Josip> :)
[12:00] <plasmo> alien for converting deb tar rpm etc
[12:00] <Josip> http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/~dhansen/mldonkey/vd.png
[12:00] <Josip> this is mldonkey ? too ugly :)
[12:01] <Josip> which rpm to download then :))
[12:01] <Josip> fc's one ? :)
[12:01] <plasmo> yeah try that o_o might work lol
[12:02] <siretart> Josip: mkdonkey has a client server architecture. for clients there are 3 interfaces available: telnet (seen on the screenshot), a gtk interface and a web interface
[12:02] <Josip> thanks .
[12:02] <siretart> Josip: I even heard about a windows client, but never tried it (no windows here)
[12:02] <Josip> brb to edit my network interface
[12:02] <Josip> ;-)
[12:05] <underdog> hi everyone
[12:06] <underdog> is anyone aware why the latest xorg doesn't have the GLX extension?
[12:06] <plasmo> hi
[12:07] <siretart> underdog: this would result in not being able to use opengl apps at all I think. No, xorg has glx to my knowledge
[12:07] <underdog> siretart, I know the effects
[12:08] <underdog> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:08] <underdog> this is what I get with glxinfo
[12:09] <underdog> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX
[12:09] <underdog> this is what is in the log
[12:09] <plasmo> cd /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions
[12:09] <siretart> underdog: did you load the nvidia kernel module?
[12:09] <plasmo> ln -s libglx.so libglx.a
[12:10] <underdog> hmm
[12:10] <underdog> siretart, it's loaded
[12:10] <underdog> plasmo, let me check that
[12:10] <underdog> be right back
[12:14] <underdog> plasmo, thanks
[12:14] <underdog> it worked
[12:14] <plasmo> cool ;)
[12:15] <underdog> u r0x0r! lol
[12:15] <plasmo> -.-
[12:21] <Josip> nick Josip
[12:21] <Josip> sorry ;)
[12:28] <Josip> lol ;-)
[12:42] <Josip> i have a simple question , i've mounted 2 ntfs partitions to /mnt/winc and /mnt/wind. But with normal user i can't access them , and i can't chmod because they're read only
[12:42] <Josip> any ideas
[12:43] <plasmo> edit /etc/fstab
[12:43] <Josip> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/winc       ntfs    defaults,ro     0       0
[12:43] <Josip> /dev/hdb6       /mnt/wind       ntfs    defaults,ro     0       0
[12:43] <Josip> this is my configuration
[12:43] <plasmo> mmm
[12:43] <Josip> shall that work ?
[12:44] <plasmo> no :)
[12:44] <Josip> why ?
[12:44] <Josip> :)
[12:44] <Ribs> add 'users' as a option
[12:44] <Ribs> might help
[12:44] <plasmo> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/winc      ntfs    rw,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000        0       0
[12:44] <plasmo> try that. maybe o_o
[12:44] <Ribs> or that
[12:44] <Josip> not rw, jut r
[12:45] <plasmo> oh wait
[12:45] <plasmo> ntfs?! u cant write to ntfs
[12:45] <ctd> dum dum duuum
[12:45] <plasmo> rw = ro :)
[12:46] <Josip> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/winc      ntfs    ro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000        0       0
[12:46] <Josip> that shall work i think
[12:46] <Josip> :D
[12:46] <plasmo> yeah try that :|
[12:51] <Josip> brb to reboot
[01:03] <intinig> Hello all.
[01:03] <intinig> merry christmas
[01:03] <intinig> and a question: I want to make an ubuntu livecd that can boot from a usb drive. Any pointer?
[01:04] <plasmo> lol was compiling and ran out of space
[01:05] <plasmo> mmm ill look the usb thing for you. should be in the wiki
[01:07] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[01:08] <da_bon_bon> at a few places i see words "Should not Happen(tm)" why the tm after the wors? they arent trademarked, or are they /?
[01:08] <da_bon_bon> *words
[01:09] <Ribs> ignore it
[01:09] <Ribs> It's really not important
[01:09] <da_bon_bon> no, please ell me. i ahgve seen it quite a few places.
[01:10] <plasmo> intinig: no idea
[01:10] <Caspar> i wanna install grub (again) only forgot how to do that whit grub
[01:11] <Caspar> can someone help
[01:11] <da_bon_bon> Caspar: /sbin/grub-install hdX
[01:12] <Gordan> hi guys someone knows hot to configure a Logitech MX500 usb?
[01:13] <Caspar> da_bon_bon: i am now in grub whit koppix
[01:14] <Caspar> so how must i do that
[01:14] <da_bon_bon> oh. so u can boot into ubuntu at all ?
[01:14] <Caspar> nope
[01:15] <da_bon_bon> ok wheres ur ubuntu installed ? /dev/hdXX ?
[01:15] <Caspar> windows reinstall becose of only crashes but i want to play UT2004
[01:15] <Caspar> hd0,2
[01:15] <Caspar> o
[01:15] <Caspar> w8
[01:15] <Caspar> lemme see
[01:16] <Gordan> noone knows abouth the MX500 mouse?
[01:16] <da_bon_bon> Gordan: just plugging it in doesnt work ?
[01:17] <Gordan> yes but i don't have the right zaxis mapping
[01:17] <da_bon_bon> sorry, dont know much about that...
[01:17] <Gordan> i've changed the protocol to explorerps/2
[01:17] <Gordan> and mapped the Z to 6 7
[01:17] <Gordan> (this work on mandrake)
[01:18] <Gordan> but the wheel and the side buttons aren't working
[01:19] <Caspar> but whit install whit me?
[01:20] <da_bon_bon> Caspar: : u got it ?
[01:22] <Caspar> got what?
[01:26] <da_bon_bon> at a few places i see words "Should not Happen(tm)" why the tm after the wors? they arent trademarked, or are they /?
[01:26] <Cloudchaser> Merry Christmas to everyone!
[01:26] <da_bon_bon> Cloudchaser: to you too
[01:26] <da_bon_bon> Caspar: got grub to load?
[01:27] <plasmo> da_bon_bon: i think thats just a joke lol
[01:27] <da_bon_bon> plasmo: buyt whats the joke ?
[01:28] <plasmo> means should not happen
[01:28] <Caspar> da_bon_bon Nope
[01:28] <Caspar> da_bon_bon
[01:28] <Caspar> i want to istall it again
[01:28] <Cloudchaser> i think its like...famous last words: "That shouldn't happen" but...it did ;)
[01:28] <Caspar> it workd last time
[01:28] <da_bon_bon> Caspar: tell me where ubuntu is installed /dev/hdXX ??
[01:28] <Caspar> no how do i mount my hd again?
[01:28] <Caspar> moun hd0,0 hd?
[01:29] <da_bon_bon> mount -t vfat /dev/hdXX /mnt/<your_dur>
[01:33] <Caspar> it is hda2
[01:33] <Caspar> so if i am correct hd0,2
[01:33] <da_bon_bon> Caspar: ok. so in knoppix do chroot /mnt/hda2
[01:34] <da_bon_bon> first mount ur /dev/hda2 to the /mnt/hda2 if it is not already mounted in knoppix.
[01:35] <Caspar> no ha
[01:35] <Caspar> hd
[01:35] <Caspar> :P
[01:35] <da_bon_bon> i said hda2
[01:36] <Caspar> done
[01:36] <da_bon_bon> ok u have chrooted ?
[01:36] <Caspar> chrooted?
[01:37] <da_bon_bon> Caspar: ok. so in knoppix do chroot /mnt/hda2
[01:37] <Caspar> k done
[01:38] <Caspar> now i get root@Knopix:/ # instaid of (blue) root@ttyp1[hda2]
[01:38] <da_bon_bon> hey, have u installed knoppix on hda2 ?
[01:39] <Ribs> It's 'you'
[01:39] <plasmo> u_u
[01:39] <da_bon_bon> ok
[01:40] <Caspar> i did that da_bon_bon
[01:41] <Caspar> brb
[01:42] <da_bon_bon> Caspar: not type /sbin/grub-instal /dev/hda
[01:44] <da_bon_bon> Caspar: now type /sbin/grub-instal /dev/hda
[01:45] <plasmo> grub-install*
[01:45] <da_bon_bon> ya sorry.
[01:45] <plasmo> =D
[01:51] <Caspar> ok ill try to reboot now
[01:56] <jims> heller
[01:56] <jims> ubuntu rocks for server
[01:56] <kebac> heh
[01:57] <NeoXed> hrm
[01:57] <NeoXed> anyone know anything aobut root kits?
[01:57] <Caspar> how can i mount the MBR?
[01:58] <HcE> Caspar: you can read it with dd I think
[01:58] <Caspar> becose o guy can't load his XP and it says it misses NTLDR
[01:58] <Caspar> a
[01:58] <HcE> I think it's the first 512 bytes on the disk
[01:59] <glyce101> hi there
[01:59] <glyce101> anyone from germany here ?
[01:59] <glyce101> i have a problem with ubuntu linux and my ThinkPad IBM600E
[01:59] <glyce101> iam a Linux newbie..
[02:00] <glyce101> and sound did not work
[02:00] <glyce101> so i used modprobe
[02:00] <glyce101> and no i aktivated the sound and it works
[02:00] <glyce101> but i want that Ubuntu loads the sound ..
[02:00] <glyce101> what should i do ?
[02:02] <Pozac> glyce101, add it to /etc/modules
[02:02] <Pozac> glyce101, then it will be loaded at boot
[02:02] <Caspar> ill be back later
[02:03] <glyce101> and how can i do this ?
[02:03] <glyce101> sry..
[02:03] <Pozac> sudo gedit /etc/modules
[02:03] <Pozac> from a terminal
[02:04] <glyce101> oh
[02:04] <glyce101> and than..
[02:04] <glyce101> i type the same as in moprobe ?
[02:04] <glyce101> e.g. cs4232 io=0x534 irp=5 etc. ?
[02:05] <glyce101> i try..thank you very much
[02:05] <Pozac> not sure, but try
[02:06] <glyce101> i try an restart..
[02:06] <glyce101> ill inform you if it works or not
[02:06] <glyce101> c ya
[02:07] <Marshall> anyone know anything about sfx winrar .exe root kits?
[02:07] <Pozac> root kits eh?
[02:08] <Marshall> yeah
[02:08] <Pozac> for ubuntu?
[02:08] <Marshall> uh
[02:08] <Marshall> for windows
[02:08] <Pozac> Then why ask in the Ubuntu support channel?
[02:09] <Marshall> lol
[02:09] <Marshall> trying to find someone who can help?
[02:09] <Marshall> :P
[02:09] <Sixfoot5_NL> well who knows?
[02:10] <Pozac> Marshall, did you try #windows ? :)
[02:10] <Marshall> LMFAO
[02:10] <Marshall> 4 pplz?
[02:12] <occy> is there a way to grow the size of a file with dd?  like, if I've done  dd if=/dev/zero of=hda.img bs=1M count=1024   and I've already got things on that file...
[02:12] <Lathiat2> occy: yeh seek=1024 count=1024
[02:12] <Lathiat2> adds another GB
[02:13] <Pozac> 1024M or 1024?
[02:13] <occy> Lathiat2: ahh, right on.  tx.
[02:13] <Lathiat2> well bs=1M
[02:13] <Lathiat2> then its just 1024
[02:13] <Pozac> oh
[02:13] <occy> Merry Christmas :) btw.
[02:13] <occy> if you celebrate such things. :)
[02:13] <Pozac> Merry Christmas :)
[02:14] <DarthJ> hi
[02:14] <Pozac> hello darth J
[02:14] <DarthJ> i have sound porblems with ubuntu get always OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program.
[02:14] <DarthJ> any ideas?