[02:26] <mup> PR snapd#10115 closed: tests: force a proxy to use cache action <⛔ Blocked> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Closed by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10115>
[05:54] <mborzecki> morning
[07:02] <pstolowski> morning
[07:06] <mborzecki> pstolowski: heya
[07:13] <pstolowski> o/
[07:21] <mvo> good morning pstolowski and mborzecki
[07:42] <zyga> o/
[10:15] <pstolowski> quick errand, bbiab
[10:16] <mup> PR snapcraft#3496 opened: Revert "repo: account for arch & version when filtering stage packages (#3461)" <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3496>
[10:38] <mup> PR snapd#10119 opened: boot: pass gadget path to command line helpers, load gadget from seed <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10119>
[11:05] <pstolowski> re
[12:08] <mup> PR snapd#10098 closed: tests: updated restore phase of spread tests - part 1 <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10098>
[13:03] <mup> PR snapd#10120 opened: boot: derive boot variables for kernel command lines <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10120>
[13:16] <zyga> popey: NOOOOOOOOOO
[13:21] <pstolowski> :(
[13:23] <diddledan> what did the P-man do?! (not typing popey to avoid the unnecessary ping... dang it)
[13:25] <ogra> popey, disappoved !
[13:25] <ogra> diddledan, -> twitter
[13:25] <zyga> diddledan: https://twitter.com/popey/status/1380139900108963848?s=21
[13:25] <popey> 🤷
[13:25]  * zyga hugs popey and is genuinely sad
[13:25] <popey> 🤗
[13:25] <diddledan> :-o
[13:46] <mup> PR snapcraft#3496 closed: Revert "repo: account for arch & version when filtering stage packages (#3461)" <Created by sergiusens> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3496>
[13:55] <cachio> ijohnson, hey
[13:55] <cachio> about https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10047#pullrequestreview-618690124
[13:55] <mup> PR #10047: tests: remove the snap profiler from the test suite <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10047>
[13:55] <cachio> so the idea is to have a place with the snaps we use but are not used with install_local right?
[13:56] <cachio> so as part of that PR I could move the profiler snap and the create another pr to mvoe more snapd, is that ok?
[14:08] <mup> PR snapd#10121 opened: boot, cmd/snap: include extra cmdline args in debug boot-vars output <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10121>
[14:11] <cachio> ijohnson, so, I need to see how the namimg should be
[14:11] <mup> PR snapcraft#3497 opened: repo: fix regression in fix_symlink() <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3497>
[14:11] <cachio> something list tests/lib/snpas/store and tests/lib/snaps/packable
[14:12] <cachio> ijohnson, does it make sense to reorg like that
[14:12] <cachio> so then install-local will just check for snaps in tests/lib/snaps/packable
[14:18] <ijohnson> hey cachio sorry was in a meeting
[14:18] <cachio> ijohnson, np
[14:38] <ijohnson> cachio: that proposal should be fine to set it up like tests/lib/snaps/store and tests/lib/snaps/packable
[14:38] <cachio> ijohnson, tests/lib/snaps/build and tests/lib/snaps/pack?
[14:38] <cachio> ijohnson, tests/lib/snaps/store and tests/lib/snaps/pack?
[14:39] <cachio> what do you prefer
[14:39] <cachio> ?
[14:39] <ijohnson> hmm not sure which is the better name
[14:39] <ijohnson> let's go with store for now, perhaps others can share their opinion in the pr
[14:39] <cachio> sure
[14:46] <ijohnson> thanks cachio
[14:46] <cachio> ijohnson, yaw
[15:17] <mup> PR snapcraft#3498 opened: storeapi: set content-type and accept headers for close <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3498>
[16:03]  * cachio lunch
[16:34] <mup> PR snapd#10083 closed: systemd: enrich UnitStatus returned by systemd.Status() with Installed flag <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10083>
[16:37] <mup> PR snapcraft#3498 closed: storeapi: set content-type and accept headers for close <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3498>
[16:49] <mup> PR snapd#10122 opened: daemon: refine access testing <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10122>
[17:04] <mup> PR snapd#10123 opened: boot,gadget,devicestate: create "aux-key" for fde-hooks v2 <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10123>
[17:08] <zyga> mvo mini review
[17:15] <mvo> zyga: \o/
[17:15] <zyga> mvo always a pleasure
[17:15] <zyga> mvo our release is out, in a way
[17:16] <zyga> and some downtime is coming up
[17:16] <zyga> I really hope to catch more breath soon
[17:52] <mup> PR snapcraft#3497 closed: repo: fix regression in fix_symlink() <Created by cjp256> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3497>
[18:09] <mup> PR snapd#10124 opened: tests: update layout for tests - part 1 <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10124>
[18:10]  * cachio afk -> doc app
[21:11] <mup> PR snapd#10125 opened: tests: update layout for tests - part 2 <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10125>


[15:31] <kentb> xnox: if / when the following merge proposal goes through, will it go into 13.10 or 14.04 (wasn't sure due to feature freeze, etc):  https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/hw-detect/fix-firmware-order/+merge/181886
[15:31] <xnox> kentb: that merge will go into 13.10 and then get SRU into 12.04 as far as I understood the plan.
[15:31] <kentb> xnox: ok. cool. just making sure. thanks!
[15:32] <xnox> kentb: do you have a way to test that branch, to make sure it's want you need / want?
[15:34] <kentb> xnox: not currently.  If there is a way to do it, I'd be glad to help out.  I personally was kind of looking at 13.10 as our way of giving this some bake time with ultimately having it all polished up for 14.04.
[15:34] <xnox> kentb: ok.
[16:56] <cjwatson> kentb: Words cannot express how happy your last mail just made me
[16:57] <cjwatson> kentb: I think grub2 is the main thing still missing for 12.04
[16:58] <kentb> cjwatson: glad I could make your day :-)  I really appreciate the help, and yeah, I think the grub2 pieces are the last items to put into place.  Again, thanks for all the work on this.


[01:58] <freddi> Hi, I am about to install the latest version of Ubuntu Gnome and I wonder if the download is correct:
[01:58] <freddi> I downloaded what appeared to be Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 alpha from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/alpha-2/
[01:59] <freddi> but the live session displays in the control panel "Ubuntu 13.10" and Gnome applications display version 3.6.x
[02:01] <freddi> to be precise, I downloaded this 64bit image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/alpha-2/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:05] <Noskcaj> freddi, Download the "daily" version
[02:05] <Noskcaj> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/20140201/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:06] <Noskcaj> And the live session is right to say that
[02:07] <freddi> Thank you!
[08:53] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Is there any packaging stuff i should do that wouldn't just be easier for you to do?
[08:53] <Noskcaj> And did you end up with MOTU or just packageset?
[08:58] <darkxst> I missed out on MOTU
[09:00] <darkxst> apparently I don't do enough non-GNOME-ey packaging, although it may have turned out different if more DMB members had attended the meeting
[09:00] <darkxst> Noskcaj, gnome-photos and gnome-weather
[09:00] <Noskcaj> darkxst, At least you got approved for something. I've taken over a month to get nothing from applying by email + i overslept the meeting
[09:01] <darkxst> perhaps start by finding out why they aren't in debian? I believe both are in the SVN
[09:01] <Noskcaj> ok, will do
[09:01] <darkxst> but otherwise just do them straight into ubuntu as NEW's
[09:01] <darkxst> yeh the meetings are really early
[09:02] <darkxst> they said they were going to call for a vote on your app though, perhaps ping the DMB about that
[09:02] <darkxst> I will probably go for ubuntu-desktop next, that will give me upload rights to most of the core packages that are not in MOTU, like gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-control-center etc
[09:02] <Noskcaj> last i heard they still had someone before me. I'll ping micah in the morning
[20:49] <ronj> Hi! I'm a bit surprised to see today's package upgrade on my 64bit machine is about to remove libgtk-3-bin to replace it with libgtk-3-bin:i386, is that right?! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6863687/
[20:50] <Noskcaj> strange. Is that upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[20:51] <ricotz> ronj, wait 10 more minutes
[20:52] <ricotz> this simply happens when the amd64 build finished and was published earlier than the i386 one
[20:52] <ronj> ok, thanks
[20:53] <ricotz> try now
[20:53] <ronj> ricotz, btw, you meant the contrary, right? the i386 finished and was published before the amd64, correct?
[20:54] <ricotz> no
[21:00] <Noskcaj> darkxst, -photos is pretty much upload ready in debian, d/copyright is probably wrong though
[21:01] <ricotz> Noskcaj, "licensecheck" helps a lot
[21:01] <Noskcaj> for -weather, the copyright problem could be CC-BY-2.0, BSD-3-clause, MIT, or GPL-2+
[21:02] <Noskcaj> ricotz, yeah. I'm trying now
[21:42] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ok just get -weather uploaded to ubuntu
[21:47] <darkxst> and -photos via debian, even you think it can get through before feature freeze
[21:56] <tumlee> Hello, I'm having an issue with gedit on Ubuntu GNOME 13.10. When I enable the external tools plugin and select "Manage external tools..." nothing happens. I have googled and could not find anybody with the same problem.
[21:57] <tumlee> Uninstalling and reinstalling the program also had no effect.


[12:19] <alan_g> greyback: It's an API break, but I think I can avoid breaking ABI: https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/miral/rename-place_new_surface-to-place_new_window/+merge/315665
[12:22] <greyback> alan_g: I need to ask, does the window manager policy have influence over subsurfaces/individual buffer streams?
[12:22] <greyback> or is that not in the current scope of the api?
[12:23] <greyback> I just want to be clear on what a "window" definitely is
[12:23] <alan_g> no (at least not yet)
[12:26] <alan_g> bufferstreams are not windows (they are closer to the original intent of "surface" before feature creep
[12:37] <greyback> alan_g: understood
[12:39] <alan_g> FWIW that's an area where redesign is happening as a result of the vulkan POC
[12:40] <greyback> oh really? Good to know
[12:43] <alan_g> whether it will affect window management...
[13:11] <anpok> greyback: should not have influence..


[03:42] <scottbomb> anyone here?
[04:05] <valorie> scottbomb: what do you need?
[04:07] <scottbomb> I am a xubuntu tester and have been using kubuntu for over a year now so i'd like to contribute here. the kubuntu testers page at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters says i should come here to request notification when testing is required
[04:07] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: happy birthday! I want to share a glass of that Hobgoblin with ya
[04:21] <valorie> welcome, scottbomb
[04:22] <valorie> unfortunately I think those who can add you to that list (testers) are just waking
[04:23] <valorie> if you can stick around or write to kubuntu-devel you'll be added
[04:23] <valorie> testers are always needed
[05:46] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: will you come to Akademy?
[05:51] <valorie> yes
[05:51] <valorie> you?
[05:51] <valorie> it will be difficult, but I am determined to come at A Coruna
[05:51] <valorie> with Scarlett
[05:52] <valorie> my husband flies out in less than 30 hours and will be hiking for a half-year
[05:53] <valorie> Akademy is right in the middle of that
[06:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:21] <soee> good morning
[06:24] <lordievader> o/
[07:23] <sitter> Riddell: build broken http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_kpeople/
[07:38] <sitter> mhhh
[07:38] <sitter> konsole master has soversion 3, apps/15.04 has soversion 15
[07:42] <ovidiu-florin> there's something spooky going on between Dolphin and Kate in vivid
[07:43] <soee> ios it possible to catch somewhere on irc Alberto Milone ?
[07:47] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: again, happy birthday
[07:47] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: thank you
[07:47] <valorie> what is the spooky Dolphin<>Kate?
[07:48] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: I want to share a Hobgoblin with you
[07:48] <valorie> :-)
[07:48] <valorie> looks delicious!
[07:48] <ovidiu-florin> it is
[07:48] <ovidiu-florin> when opening files from dolphin
[07:48] <ovidiu-florin> they both freeze sometimes
[07:48] <valorie> hmmm
[07:49] <ovidiu-florin> and untill I close Kate, dolphin is unusable
[07:49] <valorie> has not happened to me, and I do that rather often
[07:50] <valorie> just now, opened a konvi logfile, instantly
[07:50] <valorie> from dolphin
[07:50] <ovidiu-florin> open many files, one after another
[07:50] <valorie> do you think that might be a memory problem?
[07:51] <valorie> maxing out your RAM or so
[07:51] <ovidiu-florin> I did this: Open Kate, open file in kate from kate open menu, open dolphin, open file in kate from dolphin, dolphin frozen
[07:51] <ovidiu-florin> close file from kate (the one oppened form dolphin)
[07:51] <ovidiu-florin> get error in dolphin: "KDEInit nu a putut executa „/usr/bin/kate”"
[07:51] <ovidiu-florin> click ok
[07:51] <ovidiu-florin> Dolphin is now usable
[07:52] <ovidiu-florin> translation: KDEInit could not execute „/usr/bin/kate”
[07:52] <valorie> hmmm, both still usable....
[07:52] <ovidiu-florin> it hapens on 2 computers
[07:52] <ovidiu-florin> my laptop and my work computer
[07:52] <ovidiu-florin> if relevant, I'm using btrfs
[07:53] <valorie> aha, I did get kate to crash
[07:53] <valorie> but nothing froze
[07:55] <ovidiu-florin> If I start dolphin from Konsole, I get no output when frozen
[07:57] <valorie> have you filed bko bugs?
[07:58] <ovidiu-florin> I haven't filed any bugs for this yet
[07:59] <ovidiu-florin> what is http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/kdelibs5-dev ?
[07:59] <ovidiu-florin> the name seems to point to something that doesn't exist, there's ni KDE 5
[07:59] <ovidiu-florin> no*
[08:00] <soee> ovidiu-florin: check https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343613 & https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339094
[08:02] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: that looks like kdelibs for unported applications
[08:02] <valorie> we have to have those until all apps are ported to KF5
[08:02] <ovidiu-florin> so this bug appears to be fixed
[08:08] <ovidiu-florin> but we still have it in Vivid
[08:08] <ovidiu-florin> CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindQt4.cmake:886 (MESSAGE):
[08:08] <ovidiu-florin>   Could NOT find QtCore.
[08:08] <ovidiu-florin> I guess installing libqt4-core would fix it
[08:09] <ovidiu-florin> no
[08:13] <Riddell> hola chicos
[08:13] <ovidiu-florin> hola Riddell como estas?
[08:13] <Riddell> Sput: solid freeze is about to happen on thursday, any final quassel due?
[08:14] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: can we get this fix in? http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kate.git&a=commit&h=5207e49a84145e21060f3b5beff302a437cfeccd
[08:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: es el dia de plasma cinco punt tres beta, es muy excitable!
[08:15] <ovidiu-florin> oh, I see now that, that fix wasn't released yet
[08:15] <ovidiu-florin> horrible
[08:19] <valorie> freezes are sometimes inconvenient
[08:20] <soee> want some cool frezes ? :) try using nvidai propriety driver with nvidia-prime
[08:21] <valorie> heh
[08:21] <soee> if you will be lucky to get throiugh black screen or plymouth freeze, you will get freeze in sddm or just after login
[08:22] <soee> there is more cool stuff, we cant use different tty because whole command line is spammend y some error all the time
[08:50] <Sput> Riddell: can do a release today or tomorrow
[08:51] <sitter> Riddell: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Prevent_Merge.2FBuild_Fail
[08:53] <Riddell> if I do a debcommit -a -r -R it gives a tag like debian/5.9.0-0ubuntu2 which then can't be pushed "remote: [ REJECTED ] refs/tags/debian/5.9.0-0ubuntu2: referenced object under refs/tags/ must be an annotated tag"
[08:53] <Riddell> now what does that mean
[08:53] <Riddell> sitter: ack
[08:53] <Riddell> Sput: pronto pronto! :)
[08:56] <sitter> Riddell: that the pkg-kde server hooks are incompatible with debcommit
[08:56] <yofel> they're fine with us putting the tags in the debian/ namespace?
[08:57] <Riddell> I wouldn't expect they are
[08:57] <yofel> I put a working tagging command in kubuntu-archive-upload which is commented out as I never actually tested it
[09:05] <Riddell> mparillo: how did you get on with virualbox last night?
[09:06] <sitter> yofel: I do wonder though if it matters since the versions do not conflict anyway what with ubuntu revisions
[09:08] <yofel> hm
[09:09] <Riddell> sitter: they /might/ conflict
[09:09] <sitter> how so?
[09:09] <Riddell> obviously not in kubuntu packages cos we're awesome but some ubuntu packages have conflicted
[09:09] <yofel> how does one see whether a tag is annotated?
[09:09] <sitter> well... ubuntu :P
[09:10] <sitter> yofel: git show $tag supposedly
[09:10] <sitter> or in gitk you can click on the tag
[09:10] <yofel> hm, "okular Debian release 4:14.12.3-0ubuntu1", not quite there yet..
[09:10] <Riddell> kf5.9 upload seems to be going ok but I'm confused/worried by the regressions here http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[09:13] <sitter> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/~jr/patch-parser/kubuntu_vivid_archive.html
[09:13] <sitter> such a wall of patch
[09:14] <yofel> something like this should work: git-buildpackage --git-ignore-branch --git-tag-only --git-debian-tag='ubuntu/%(version)s' --git-debian-tag-msg='%(pkg)s Ubuntu release %(version)s'
[09:14] <Riddell> sitter: you didn't move it out of ~jr ?
[09:15] <sitter> Riddell: no
[09:23] <sitter> Riddell: workspace stable says 09:21:11 dpkg-source: error: cannot read source/debian/patches/kubuntu_default-systray-applets.diff: No such file or directory
[09:46] <mparillo> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1441843 does not seem to apply to Kubuntu (at least on VMware Player 6.0.5 build-2443746) I just used today's ISO.
[09:47] <Riddell> mparillo: so it all ran fine?
[09:48] <mparillo> I ran both the live mode and installer.  The first time it came back up I had some strange messages in konsole, but I applied updates and re-booted again and everything seems fine.
[09:48] <mparillo> But certainly nothing critical the way Lubuntu has.
[09:48] <Riddell> phew :)
[09:48] <Riddell> thanks mparillo
[09:49] <Riddell> the squashfs issue on shutdown from live I've seen and is inelegant but it's kindae below what I know about
[09:49] <mparillo> Since I had kate and dolphin open, I wonder if it is related to the discussion earlier today on #kubuntu-devel
[09:49] <mparillo> it = the strange messages in my konsole
[10:31] <ovidiu-florin> there's no Open Konsole here in the dolphin context menu anymore, why?
[10:40] <Riddell>  maybe it's a kdelibs4->kf5 integration issue
[10:41] <ovidiu-florin> konsole is ported, dolphin is ported
[10:41] <ovidiu-florin> what's there in beteeen?\
[10:43] <Riddell> dolphin isn't ported in the version we ship
[10:50] <soee> There is new 15.04 revie on g+
[10:50] <soee> *review
[10:50] <soee> https://plus.google.com/+AJReissig/posts/Q6qXEYuLqGP
[10:54] <Riddell> gosh 20 mins
[10:54] <soee> yeah people these days prefere less talk more nice video :)
[10:55] <soee> such reviews shoudl have ~ 5 minutes showing the software
[10:55] <Riddell> mparillo: good for promo on wire/social media?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> HI all
[11:15] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[11:15] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[11:25] <soee> we should have packaging video tutorial like 10 lessons
[11:26] <soee> so step by step all explained
[11:26] <soee> than it would be much esier to potential packagers to start with it
[11:32] <Riddell> frecel: we need to get this digikam release tested and in a PPA
[11:34] <frecel> Riddell: downloading it right now
[11:35] <frecel> Sorry about sunday, just as we started talking my phone went crazy and I needed to go do some damage control
[11:36] <soee> :=)
[11:36] <frecel> and now I'm back to working 13hour days for a week or so
[11:38] <frecel> I'm actually about to head off to work in about 10 minutes
[11:38] <frecel> its 5:37 here, it should be illegal to be awake this early
[11:42] <frecel> Riddell: works like a dream
[11:43] <Riddell> frecel: great, I'll copy it over
[11:45] <Riddell> frecel: up now in kubuntu-ppa/backports thanks for your help https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=vivid
[12:54] <mparillo> Riddell: On it (https://plus.google.com/+AJReissig/posts/Q6qXEYuLqGP) Thanks soee.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> not my cuppa tea
[13:06] <soee> ~.~
[13:36] <mparillo> I use Passwordsafe which is built on wxWidgets and the theming does not seem to mesh well with any of the three themes on Plasma 5 (for example, a checkbox is almost invisible). Where is a good place to ask about that kind of thing?
[13:37] <Riddell> ask passwordsafe whyever they use wxwidgets and not qt like a sensible project :)
[13:40] <mparillo> I know the reply..."It's open-source...have a go"
[13:43] <yofel> IIRC wx just used the gtk themes, and I don't think there's a gtk3 theme that fits good into plasma5
[13:48] <Riddell> we do set orion
[13:48] <Riddell> should be set in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
[13:51] <mparillo> Yes, I see that: gtk-theme-name=Orion
[13:51] <yofel> yeah, that is at least tolerable, but not good
[13:52] <Riddell>  the toolbars looks similar, is why I picked it
[13:52] <yofel> right, I don't think we have something better either :/
[13:53] <Riddell> a breeze theme for gtks2 and 3 was promised, dunno how that's going
[14:06]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:40] <darthanubis> wake up to plasmashell dead
[14:40] <darthanubis> well I still have graphic effects, just no desktop or taskbar
[14:40] <darthanubis> or wallpaper
[14:40] <darthanubis> whats the cmd to restart the shell?
[14:48] <darthanubis> guess I'll install all these updates and see if it fixes or brings any stability
[14:48] <darthanubis> looks like there is some breeze,plasma, and sddm stuff inthere
[14:49]  * darthanubis crosses fingers
[14:50] <darthanubis> lets see if I can log out
[14:55] <yofel> Riddell: do you remember why we depend on a specific mysql version for akonadi? We don't even ship multiple ones in the archive..
[14:56] <Riddell> yofel: nope, is it some ubuntu policy to not accidently compile against another one like boost maybe?
[14:57] <yofel> this is the runtime dep, the build one is already "just" libmysqlclient-dev.
[14:59] <yofel> meh, I'll write a mail to the ML, this packaging doesn't match reality at all
[15:05] <darthanubis> sweet, can logout now!
[15:08] <darthanubis> still getting this message about mscorefonts installer, and I know the package installed successfully
[15:14] <BluesKaj> so is apt-get no longer needed ? replaced by just apt ?
[15:35] <ScottK> BluesKaj: It's not replaced.  Both are still there.  Use whichever you prefer.
[15:36] <ScottK> yofel: If the MySQL dependency is generated from shlibs, then that's normal library versioning at work.  It should just need a no change rebuild for the new ABI.
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ScottK, kind of like apt without the "get"  even tho i use short alaises for those commands I like the ideaof a progressbar when upgrading and installing
[15:37] <ScottK> My fingers are sufficiently trained I've never managed to use it.
[15:38] <yofel> ScottK: it's not, it's manually hardcoded, as in:
[15:38] <yofel> Depends: mysql-client-core-5.5 |          mysql-client-core-5.6 |         mariadb-client-core-5.5 |         mariadb-client-core-10.0
[15:38] <yofel> see the mail I just sent
[15:39] <ScottK> OK.
[15:39] <ScottK> No idea then.
[16:03] <mparillo> I still seem to need apt-get  autoremove -y Seems to choke on simply apt, but otherwise I save four characters and get a nifty progress bar.
[16:12] <yofel> you could also set APT::Get::AutomaticRemove "1" in apt.conf - then you can skip that
[16:13] <Riddell> hmm kubotu all silent on trello changes :(
[16:14] <Riddell> frecel: how would you like a useful task?
[16:14] <Riddell> frecel: kamoso needs testing and packaged https://trello.com/c/1nORCQl8/49-test-package-kamoso
[16:14] <kubotu> [15.04 :: To Do :: test/package kamoso ++ ]
[16:15] <yofel> that would be sweet, even if it needs an FFE
[16:18] <Riddell> yofel: not going to happen in vivid :)
[16:18] <Riddell> and actually looking at it it'll get complex
[16:18] <yofel> oh well
[16:18] <Riddell> needs qt 5 gstreamer packaged
[16:18] <yofel> geh
[16:18] <Riddell> and kf5 kpurpose
[16:19] <yofel> yeah, not vivid then
[16:19] <Riddell> frecel: so maybe not an easy task then ↑
[16:19] <Riddell> and kamoso isn't released, it's just that apol asked me for testers and maybe some CI packaging
[16:22] <Riddell> ok I'm off, Adéu
[18:47]  * ahoneybun is on the Ubuntu Membership Board
[18:55] <yofel> ahoneybun: congrats :)
[18:55] <ahoneybun> yofel: thanks :)
[18:57] <xennex81> how are you doing ovidiu-florin
[18:57] <xennex81> ?
[18:59] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Congratulations. But what does it mean that you are on the Membership Board? Do you get to evaluate membership applications?
[18:59] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Congratulations. But what does it mean that you are on the Membership Board? Do you get to evaluate membership applications?
[18:59] <lordievader> Whoops.
[19:00] <xennex81> whoopsie
[19:00] <xennex81> the s/ first/ second thing did not work in #kubuntu :P
[19:00] <ahoneybun> lordievader: yes
[19:00] <xennex81> or is it tied to individual members?
[19:01] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Fancy :)
[19:01] <ahoneybun> lordievader: yea lol
[19:01] <xennex81> :)
[19:01] <xennex81> I'm hearing you! :P
[19:01] <xennex81> lol
[19:01] <xennex81> (I'm busy with getting some development time ready for Calligra :) )
[19:02] <xennex81> minus the space at the end
[19:02] <xennex81> (have my first builds ready of the stock software...)
[19:33] <yofel> xennex81: the s/ thing is a kubotu thing. kubuntu is not in #kubuntu
[19:33] <yofel> s/kubuntu/kubotu/
[19:33] <kubotu> yofel meant: "xennex81: the s/ thing is a kubotu thing. kubotu is not in #kubuntu"
[19:33] <yofel> -.-
[19:36] <soee> someone tested lately nvidia-prime with propriety drivers ?
[19:54] <xennex81> :)
[19:54] <xennex81> hahahahahahaha
[19:55] <xennex81> i like kobuto
[19:55] <xennex81> but I am not sure if I spell it right haha
[19:55] <xennex81> s/kobuto/kubotu/
[19:55] <kubotu> xennex81: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[19:55] <yofel> only works on the previous line
[19:55] <xennex81> it doesn't want me to be late
[19:55] <xennex81> :P :(
[19:55] <xennex81> i see
[19:56] <xennex81> it doesn't want me to use it on the previous line yes
[19:56] <xennex81> hrm..
[19:56] <xennex81> ..
[19:56] <xennex81> .................
[19:56] <xennex81> s/...../blaat/
[19:56] <kubotu> xennex81 meant: "blaat............"
[19:56] <xennex81> :)
[19:56] <xennex81> haha i like scripts :) ..... i wish i had more :P
[20:00] <ahoneybun> KF 5.9!
[20:01] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you get yourself as a member of the membership board?
[20:01] <ahoneybun> Riddell: yes
[20:01] <Riddell> gosh, how exciting :)
[20:01] <ahoneybun> I know :)
[20:02] <soee> sgclark: hiho
[20:02] <ahoneybun> darn crazy
[20:02] <xennex81> congratulations then :), even if I don't know what it is ? : ) :P
[20:02] <ahoneybun> soee: I don't dare install the drivers
[20:02] <xennex81> everything in life should be revertible
[20:03] <xennex81> if it is not okay
[20:03] <ahoneybun> xennex81: not sure about those drivers
[20:03] <ahoneybun> *should be*
[20:03] <xennex81> just undo everything rm -rf /
[20:03] <ahoneybun> right lol
[20:03] <xennex81> i mean undo that also
[20:03] <xennex81> it should be possible lol
[20:03] <xennex81> everything that is not okay :p
[20:04] <xennex81> :P
[20:04] <ahoneybun> If I had saved a list of the packages and removed the blacklist of the drivers it should work
[20:04] <xennex81> I currently have a KDE that cannot select a different Window Decoration theme because the current one makes it crash
[20:04] <ahoneybun> just easier to reinstall
[20:04] <ahoneybun> g2g brb
[20:04] <xennex81> bye
[20:05] <xennex81> there are many themes for that (perhaps) that makes the tool crash
[20:05] <xennex81> segfault, whenever you load it
[20:05] <soee> ahoneybun: well i have them installed but cant use :)
[20:05] <soee> im on intel profile atm
[20:06] <xennex81> i'm not sure how to clear that setting, it is in the .kde I think
[20:06] <soee> nvidia driver makes plymouth freeze
[20:09] <xennex81> blah that's bad
[20:09] <soee> ~.~
[20:09] <xennex81> found, kwinrc
[20:09] <xennex81> that is an essential component
[20:10] <xennex81> you can't have it freeze like that :P
[20:11] <soee> nah you can get used to, when working on a dev version
[20:17] <ovidiu-florin> xennex81: I'm trying to recover from a headake
[20:17] <ovidiu-florin> that still won't let me go
[20:17] <ovidiu-florin> I can't do anything
[20:18] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know what's happening
[20:21] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Too much birthday alcohol?
[20:21] <ovidiu-florin> I suspected at first
[20:21] <ovidiu-florin> but actually I didn't drink that much
[20:21] <ovidiu-florin> I didn't even get drunk
[20:22] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ping
[20:22] <lordievader> Hmm, too bad :(
[20:23] <soee> who thinks im the boss ?
[20:24] <soee> ahoneybun: win http://wstaw.org/m/2015/04/14/snapshot5.png
[20:25] <soee> wfter logout i had only black screen but hard reset and it somehow started
[20:25] <soee> with EGL panel is whole white - no effects, but with GLX it seems to work
[20:26] <soee> brb one more reboot to check if it will work
[20:27] <soee> back
[20:28] <soee> someone can confirm that with latest updates, rightclick on desktop not working ?
[20:29] <stoocot> soee: I can, also desktop search is completely broken
[20:29] <soee> oO
[20:30] <soee> well i can search for applications in krunner
[20:30] <soee> *cant
[20:30] <soee> so indeed it is broken
[20:31] <xennex81> ovidiu-florin: I think it is a cause for more water drinking in any case ;-) !
[20:31] <xennex81> but nice to see you're back
[20:32] <xennex81> not doing anything or not being able to do anything Is Something I Am Used To :P.
[20:34] <xennex81> I am wondering if you 're still or still would be interested.... if You'd Still Be Interested in having a look at what i had been writing about the ...*gasp*... argh... website... ?
[20:35] <xennex81> if I am to or were to make it as image-rich As I Could ?
[20:35] <xennex81> s/if I am to or were to/If I am to make it or were to/
[20:35] <kubotu> xennex81 meant: "If I am to make it or were to make it as image-rich As I Could ?"
[20:36] <xennex81> lol
[20:36] <xennex81> I just need a better mouse for image manipulation lol
[20:40] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> I've skimmed over your mail
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> I'll read it again though
[20:40]  * ahoneybun high fives soee
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I'd like to finish the Team page and the publish it
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> and do the rest after
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> any reason not to?
[20:41] <ovidiu-florin> soee ahoneybun anyone else ^^
[20:42] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: sounds good
[20:43] <soee> there is this bug in menu on small screens i reported on github
[20:43] <ovidiu-florin> which menu?
[20:43] <ovidiu-florin> main navigation?
[20:44] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[20:44] <ovidiu-florin> soee: do you have a fix for it, or do I have to investigate?
[20:44] <soee> ovidiu-florin: its simple, i explained it in bugreport i think
[20:46] <ahoneybun> sup ovidiu-florin
[20:46] <ahoneybun> oh Team page
[20:47] <soee> and we need to make better banner on frontpage
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> soee: go to ahoneybun for that
[20:48] <ovidiu-florin> soee: I can't find through inspect element the css selector for .skt-mob-menu
[20:48] <soee> ovidiu-florin: ill make a sample tomorrow to show you how i would see
[20:48] <soee> it
[20:49]  * ahoneybun hates the Ubuntu Wiki
[20:49] <soee> ovidiu-florin: resize page to smaller size
[20:49] <ahoneybun> what do you have in mind soee
[20:50] <soee> ahoneybun: ?
[20:50] <ahoneybun> banner soee
[20:50] <soee> separate background image and text etc
[20:51] <ovidiu-florin> soee: check it out now (navigation)
[20:51] <ahoneybun> have a slight trans background for the text and images?
[20:53] <soee> ovidiu-florin: yes its fine now, but the menu button and logo arent verticaly centered in this to panel hight
[20:53] <soee> woudl be got to fix it
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> can you make a pull request for that?
[20:54] <soee> ovidiu-florin: tomorrow
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[21:06] <soee> Riddell: ping
[21:06] <soee> users report the same 2 issues we did: https://plus.google.com/103063697074786093032/posts/PJhPtdxMfDX
[21:08] <Riddell> mm meh, I'll test it out tomorrow
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> W: Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:16] <soee> kernel upgrade
[21:25] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: wait a bit and try again
[22:15] <valorie> I have the same issues soee reports
[22:15] <valorie> where should this be reported?
[22:16] <valorie> ie: no right-click on teh desktop, krunner doesn't search
[22:16] <valorie> in fact, it doesn't add 2+3
[22:33] <valorie> I guess I'll file it on krunner on bko
[22:35] <Riddell> valorie: one on krunner and one of plasma-framework
[22:35] <Riddell> bugs.k.o and launchpad
[22:35] <Riddell> if you can
[22:38] <valorie> hmmm
[22:38] <valorie> apt-cache policy krunner yields nothing
[22:38] <valorie> what do we call it?
[22:41] <valorie> I mean, our packagename
[22:41] <Riddell> krunner source package
[22:41] <valorie> eeek, lost without my krunner
[22:42] <valorie> omg, search isn't working in kicker either
[22:42] <Riddell> frameworks-krunner in bugs.kde.org
[22:42] <valorie> ok
[22:43] <valorie> apt-cache policy tells me I have neither
[22:44] <valorie> apt install can't find it
[22:44] <Riddell> libkf5runner5 is the library
[22:44] <valorie> something wicked this way comes
[22:44] <Riddell> which is what has changed
[22:45] <valorie> that I do have
[22:46] <valorie> do you happen to know our version of krunner since apt-cache is being so stupid?
[22:47] <valorie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10824300/
[22:47] <valorie> none of those sound right
[22:48] <valorie> and search for frameworks-krunner finds null
[22:53] <Riddell> valorie: 5.2.95
[22:53] <valorie> ty
[22:53] <Riddell> valorie: https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=frameworks-plasma
[22:54] <Riddell> valorie: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-framework
[22:54] <Riddell> valorie: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krunner
[22:55] <valorie> excellent
[22:55] <valorie> plasma components?
[22:56] <valorie> I assume
[22:56] <Riddell> hmm here is no frameworks-krunner
[22:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how's it going
[22:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can I put a load of anarchist vegans in the office this weekend?
[22:57] <Riddell> they'll be well behaved
[23:00] <valorie> but will they wear kilts?
[23:00] <shadeslayer> hah
[23:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what's with the anarchist vegans
[23:01] <Riddell> valorie: unlikely, they're from england
[23:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do they use KDE?
[23:02] <valorie> too bad, vegans should all wear kilts
[23:02] <valorie> heck, guys in Seattle wear them
[23:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: they will if they want a bed for the night
[23:03] <valorie> even if they are utilikilts
[23:03] <shadeslayer> lol
[23:04]  * valorie spreads the rumour that Riddell beds vegans to get them to use KDE
[23:04] <valorie> so naughty
[23:05] <shadeslayer> Nim still uses OS X
[23:05] <shadeslayer> I think he's failing at that if that is his agenda
[23:08] <valorie> frameworks: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346191
[23:09] <valorie> krunner: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346190
[23:09] <valorie> confirmations, please
[23:12] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-framework/+bug/1444195
[23:12] <ahoneybun> Riddell: seems the installer bug will be fixed soon
[23:13] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1428877 ^
[23:15] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krunner/+bug/1444196 - confirm please
[23:15] <valorie> all of them
[23:19] <ahoneybun> valorie: let me reboot after those updates and try brb
[23:20] <valorie> yes, I'm glad I rebooted after the updates so I could report this stuff on day one
[23:20] <valorie> also weird that G+ is now where we find this stuff......
[23:20] <valorie> I guess I'll go add those links and ask the plussers to confirm also
[23:23] <valorie> done
[23:28] <ahoneybun> krunner search, counts, and launches
[23:28] <ahoneybun> valorie: *
[23:30] <valorie> interesting
[23:30] <valorie> all I did was update, restart, and then test
[23:30] <claydoh> laptop udated just now, confirming the bugs
[23:30] <valorie> a bit of a Heisenbug situation, I fear
[23:31] <ahoneybun> no updates left
[23:33] <claydoh> updating the media center now
[23:39] <stoocot> ahoneybun: maybe you used mirror, not main repo server and it's not in sync yet? I was affected by these bugs about 8 hours ago
[23:40] <ahoneybun> kf 5.9 was installe
[23:41] <ahoneybun> stoocot: so same version
[23:42] <stoocot> right, strange difference
[23:46] <stoocot> ahoneybun: what's about your right-click desktop menu?
[23:47] <ahoneybun> all good
[23:47] <valorie> and kicker/kickoff search/launch?
[23:48] <claydoh> valorie: both mine have all the bugs, not going to bother checking the third one
[23:53] <valorie> there are two bko bugs, and two in launchpad
[23:54] <valorie> confirmation needed for all 4 bug reports


[19:39] <hggdh> popey: are you LoCo as well? Or, better who could I ask a question (about a IRC LoCO channel)?
[19:41] <wxl> hggdh: kyrofa is on the LC
[19:47] <hggdh> wxl: thank you sir. If I may ask, is there a IRC channel for the LoCo council?
[20:01] <wxl> hggdh: yes, but it's private the the LC members. your best bet is to find them here or #ubuntu-locoteams