[06:32] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Bah. Doesn't affect Konqueror only, so shouldn't be accessible only there.
[06:32] <Jucato> Hirvinen: System Settings is meant to be a lightweight KControl alternative, presenting the control modules in more meaningful groups and removing duplicated settings.
[06:32] <zeekstarr> thanks
[06:32] <Jucato> Hirvinen: Konqueror is the file manager, and thus has the file associations settings
[06:33] <Jucato> Hirvinen: it has been in Konqueror since the beginning.
[06:33] <Jucato> not only in Kubuntu but in default KDE as well
[06:33] <bh_> Jucato, I'm looking for a specific apt line of some sort
[06:33] <bh_> It's kind of hard to find it from the web page
[06:33] <bh_> and all I see is iso images
[06:34] <inept> does anyone in charge understand that the world wants KDE and wants it to work out of the box? including the people at kubuntu?
[06:34] <stdin> bh_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[06:34] <caleb> bh_: Add this to your sources.list file deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[06:34] <Jucato> bh_: the announcement for KDE 3.5.6 which stdin gave
[06:34] <Hirvinen> Jucato: But as it affects anything that uses KDE's file associations, which means a lot of non-Konqueror applications, it should be accessible from other places as well, as it is in kcontrol.
[06:34] <epimeth> YES!!! I had mistyped the locale!! woo hoo!!!!!!
[06:34] <epimeth> my music isn't dissapeared
[06:35] <bh_> caleb, thanks
[06:35] <epimeth> inept: I don't understand... what part of kde didn't work for you oob?
[06:35] <SolidSource> Hirvinen: even in windows, the main place to change file associations is in windows explorer (IE)
[06:35] <epimeth> inept: you've been complaining since the second you came in here
[06:35] <prak> is anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?
[06:36] <Jucato> Hirvinen: which, as a *file manager* Konqueror should be controlling. It is the app manages files, no matter what program actually views or opens it. (btw, there are no "Konqueror applications")
[06:36] <inept> epi! alot of KDE does not work in Kubunto
[06:36] <SolidSource> inept: everything works fine
[06:37] <epimeth> inept: I've heard that from you at least three times already.  can I have a solid answer?
[06:37] <epimeth> inept: what, *specifically* does not work?
[06:37] <caleb> inept: sudo aptitude install kde
[06:38] <Hirvinen> SolidSource: It's there as well, but IIRC is accessible from control panel. But that doesn't change the fact that file associations are global to KDE and not just restricted to Konqueror. If on Windows they aren't accessible from Control Panel, then Windows just fails as well.
[06:38] <inept> then solid! i guess you have never run KDE uless some distro har has gave it to you. including konsole
[06:38] <epimeth> Hirvinen: in windows they are accessible from Control Panel
[06:38] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Non-Konqueror == anything that is not Konqueror. Opposite of that is something that is Konqueror.
[06:39] <Jucato> inept: please be more specific in your problems
[06:39] <sparr> inept: what specific part of kde isnt working for you in kubuntu?
[06:39] <Jucato> Hirvinen: there is no "something that is Konqueror" app
[06:39] <epimeth> inept: again... making vague statements.  what, specifically, did not work out of box?
[06:39] <epimeth> Hirvinen: the only thing that is Konqueror *is* Konqueror
[06:39] <sparr> Jucato: i would say that Konqueror qualifies as "something that is Konqueror"...
[06:39] <MuJ> epimeth: isn't that the point?
[06:39] <epimeth> Hirvinen: *everything* else is non-konqueror
[06:39] <Jucato> sparr: semantics :)
[06:40] <justin__> Okay I ran K3b again and this is really weird,it says the MD5 hash is invalid but before the burn it worked.
[06:40] <Hirvinen> epimeth: I don't believe to have said anything else.
[06:40] <Hirvinen> And echo sparr.
[06:40] <Jucato> Hirvinen: A file manager manages files. it manages how files will behave, be displayed, located, and opened.
[06:40] <caleb> inept: I compiled KDE 3.3 from source back when I ran SUSE 9, so I _think_ I can say that Kubuntu does a good job of giving us a good KDE, when comparing to my from-source days...
[06:40] <epimeth> Hirvinen: <Hirvinen> Jucato: But as it affects anything that uses KDE's file associations, which means a lot of non-Konqueror applications, it should be accessible from other places as well, as it is in kcontrol.
[06:41] <justin__> I'm just going to run it anyway,see ya.
[06:41] <Jucato> this is getting offtopic btw
[06:41] <Hirvinen> epimeth: That means "applications other than Konqueror."
[06:41] <SolidSource> inept: I have been using linux for a while, I know konsole...just cause you can't seem to get around something doesn't mean whatever it is sucks, just means you don't know everything about every system...things change, commands change especially between distros....so unless you got specifics, stop complaining
[06:41] <inept> i don't have problems! ep unless some distro or want to be distro gives me problems. i understand u nix farly well and bash.
[06:41] <epimeth> Hirvinen: so why didn't you say so in the first place?
[06:42] <epimeth> Hirvinen: what it seemed like was that you were implying that there were konqueror-apllications as well as non-konqueror apps
[06:42] <ants> oh bother for closed source drivers
[06:42] <Jucato> Hirvinen: if Konqueror's settings should only affect itself. then KControl's settings should only affect itself too. it shouldn't be able to file associations at all.
[06:42] <epimeth> inept: so what are you complaining about?
[06:42] <ants> my smartcard reader has drivers for 2.6.18
[06:43] <inept> solid1 SUDO RENAME SEEMS TO HELP FIX UBUNTOLU :)
[06:43] <MuJ> troll
[06:43] <inept> paswwd
[06:43] <inept>  THAT HELPS
[06:43] <inept>  lol
[06:43] <epimeth> inept: you said, and I quote, "<inept> epi! alot of KDE does not work in Kubunto"
[06:43] <ants> but those are broken in 2.6.20
[06:43] <LL_Hakaisou> !virtual machine
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual machine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <epimeth> inept: in other words, something didn't work for you
[06:43] <Jucato> !caps | inept
[06:43] <ubotu> inept: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:44] <LL_Hakaisou> thanks, ubotu
[06:44] <Tm_T> MuJ: You are.
[06:44] <inept> THAT IS RIGHT EP
[06:44] <MuJ> Tm_T: I am.. but I admit it :|
[06:44] <epimeth> !vmware | LL_Hakaisou
[06:44] <ubotu> LL_Hakaisou: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:44] <Hirvinen> Jucato: I have not said that those settings should not be accessible under Konqueror. I have said that they should be accessible outside of it *in addition* to Konqueror, because they also affect things outside Konqueror.
[06:44] <Tm_T> inept: Cut those caps.
[06:44] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: What do you need to know, and under what version of Ubuntu?
[06:44] <epimeth> inept: what is right? you keep talking in circles!
[06:44] <inept> th! its the nails but i will cut them :))
[06:45] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: File association should be controlled in Konq and in Kcontrol IMO.
[06:45] <ants> ok, looking at the drivers, they are actually open source, but unfortunately not in the kernel tree, so 2.6.20 workqueue changes broke the code
[06:45] <SolidSource> inept: ok, again, something might not have worked for you, just means you are having a problem and there is probably another way around it....so why not give some specifics of what you are doing and such, then just maybe one of us will know another way to fix the problem
[06:45] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: I know that kvm works rather well under Feisty, and is much faster than VMWare, but it's not got a GUI config, and you have to have a processor with virtualization support.
[06:46] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: And actually it seems to be too.
[06:46] <epimeth> !kvm | epimeth
[06:46] <LL_Hakaisou> i'm gonna install my copy of Windows XP home as a virtual machine
[06:46] <LL_Hakaisou> just want some info on it
[06:46] <LL_Hakaisou> also, i'm running edgy
[06:46] <LL_Hakaisou> unless i don't have to reinstall to update...
[06:47] <LL_Hakaisou> which was my impression
[06:47] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: Edit your sources.conf to say "feisty" where it says "edgy"
[06:47] <akrus> Jucato: are you here?
[06:47] <Jucato> akrus: yes?
[06:47] <jack_deltrino> hello
[06:47] <caleb> Do a sudo aptitude update, followed by a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:47] <Hirvinen> Tm_T: I agree. And they are. But I think that they should be in System Settings as well, at least on Kubuntu, now that Kubuntu has replaced Kcontrol by System Settings in its default installation.
[06:47] <epimeth> LL_Hakaisou: don't upgrade to feisty
[06:47] <jack_deltrino> i'm installing kubuntu edgy eft now. but i have a linksys wmp11 and no ethernet access to my system
[06:47] <akrus> Jucato: is it possible to specify the sectors number via mount?
[06:47] <epimeth> LL_Hakaisou: unless you *really* want to
[06:47] <jack_deltrino> in the installation process, what kernel modules do i need to install to get it to work with network stuff?
[06:47] <Tm_T> caleb: Don't point LL_Hakaisou to Feisty until it's stable thanks.
[06:47] <Jucato> akrus: er.. sorry don't  really know
[06:47] <epimeth> LL_Hakaisou: it's still very buggy... stable, but buggy
[06:48] <akrus> hmm ok :)
[06:48] <jack_deltrino> anyone?
[06:48] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: True, hm, that seems to be issue, mind to file a bug?
[06:48] <Jucato> Tm_T, Hirvinen: it's is not a bug
[06:48] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: there is a possibility to have a problem if you upgrade distro versions if there are 3rd party apps installed
[06:48] <akrus> lol new error :)
[06:48] <jack_deltrino> i need to know what i have to do to get ubuntu's installation process to play nice with my linksys wmp11
[06:48] <akrus> [87006.728000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdc1)
[06:48] <akrus> [87006.728000]      fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[06:48] <akrus> [87006.728000]      File system has been set read-only
[06:48] <Jucato> System Settings *is not* KControl.
[06:48] <Tm_T> Jucato: wish"bug"
[06:48] <jack_deltrino> i hae no network access otherwise
[06:48] <LL_Hakaisou> the only 3rd party app i've got is firefox
[06:48] <jack_deltrino> no ethernet, etc.
[06:48] <Tm_T> Jucato: I still keep saying wish as bugs. ;)
[06:48] <Jucato> Tm_T: it will only be rejected
[06:48] <caleb> epimeth: I find it works well, but there are some things that are still in flux with Feisty. However, it's holding up pretty well on my notebook.
[06:48] <Jucato> !pastebin | akrus
[06:48] <ubotu> akrus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:48] <nobane> I need help configuring my default desktop
[06:48] <LL_Hakaisou> and if i lose that it's no big deal, i can just reinstall and restore it
[06:48] <akrus> Jucato: yep i know
[06:49] <nobane> right now it boots up to the gnome login and I want it to be the KDE login
[06:49] <epimeth> jack_deltrino: try the livecd first... if it works, it works, if not then try google... doesn't seem like anyone here knows
[06:49] <Tm_T> Jucato: Atleast it's said, or do you think only "sure cases" should be filed?
[06:49] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Why is it a bad thing for a setting to be in several places? Especially when the setting affects things outside the application where it is most often used?
[06:49] <inept> Hakv! this is very bugy but its a start! if you cant handle linux then go back to windows
[06:49] <epimeth> caleb: I'm using it, myself, I don't go 4 hours without something crashing
[06:49] <Jucato> Hirvinen: because System Settings is not KControl. that's the main reason. the 2 apps have different goals, different paths
[06:49] <epimeth> caleb: usually adept or konqueror
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> inept, you talking to me?
[06:50] <Jucato> one strives for simplicity, the other is for power users or old timers
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> cause i acutally am liking kubuntu
[06:50] <fudgey> hey
[06:50] <inept> yes hak
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> wtf?!
[06:50] <Jucato> Tm_T: he can try. but I'm saving him the pain of being told again.. :)
[06:50] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: Just file that wish, IMO better to file and get rejected than sit silent in the corner crying.
[06:50] <caleb> epimeth: That's odd, because I've been running Feisty since Herd 2, and had no problems, except for Adept, and that's not really an issue since I normally use aptitude instead.
[06:50] <fudgey> has anyone installed beryl on 6.10 with nvidia?
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> i wanna use a vm of windows to play video files.
[06:50] <epimeth> is there an op in the room?  I don't think I'm alone in saying inept is bothering people?
[06:50] <LL_Hakaisou> is that so horrible?
[06:50] <Tm_T> Jucato: Oh, there's no pain, I'm sure. ;)
[06:50] <fudgey> if so how did you get nvidia to work?
[06:51] <bh_> aptitude dist-upgrade is being a pain from normal edgy.
[06:51] <inept> gee ep
[06:51] <LL_Hakaisou> also, i'm pretty sure i can't install visual studio in linux
[06:51] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Is it simplicity, that a system wide setting such as file association is not found under a place called system settings?
[06:51] <prak> is anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?
[06:51] <bh_> It complains that ktalkd is broken, what's up with that ?
[06:51] <LL_Hakaisou> and i need it for a class
[06:51] <epimeth> caleb: different hardware, amigo
[06:51] <adydas> whats the package for flash suitable for opera?
[06:51] <nobane> I need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE
[06:51] <Jucato> Hirvinen: because the file manager should be able to handle that already. and in fact, it already does
[06:51] <fudgey> has anyone installed beryl on 6.10 with nvidia?
[06:51] <epimeth> caleb: when adept was deemed "fixed" I couldn't run it... yesterday's update finally got it working
[06:52] <Jucato> Hirvinen: I do not know why they put it in KControl also in the first place. KControl sometimes duplicates a lot of settings that can already be reached in the proper apps
[06:52] <adydas> fudgey: i did today
[06:52] <adydas> Nvidia 7900GT, Edgy
[06:52] <Hirvinen> adydas: The same as for anything else. You just have to select it to be used from Opera -> Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Content -> plugins.
[06:52] <fudgey> great
[06:52] <epimeth> inept: sorry, buddy, but you are.  I haven't heard you say a single positive or helpful thing since you got here
[06:52] <Jucato> fudgey: Kubuntu 6.10, using NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
[06:53] <fudgey> adydas: what should I do when gdm doesnt start?
[06:53] <caleb> epimeth: Quite true. I was blessed with the perfect Linux notebook when I picked a cheap Toshiba off the rack at Sam's. As I said, I usually use aptitude from Konsole, so I normally don't bother with Adept.
[06:53] <inept> ep1 RIGHT NOW I AM RUNNING SuSE,MEPIS6,FREESPIRE,DEBIAN,REDHAT,WIN xp :((
[06:53] <Jucato> inept: drop the caps. final warning
[06:53] <epimeth> caleb: toshibas are the perfect linux notebooks
[06:53] <fudgey> I read something about installing the nvidia drivers
[06:53] <adydas> fudgey: use this
[06:53] <adydas> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[06:53] <inept> AND KUBUNTU
[06:53] <adydas> worked Mint for me
[06:53] <epimeth> caleb: I have two friends who've never had problems running linux on toshibas
[06:53] <inept> 6.1
[06:53] <adydas> just maek sure u use the KDE part and not like me start it off with the gnome way of it hah
[06:54] <fudgey> beryl disabled my originall nvidia drivers =/
[06:54] <fudgey> so its laggy now
[06:54] <Hirvinen> Jucato: Under System Settings there's a section called Storage Media. Sounds like a file thing to me. Should that be only in Konqueror as well?
[06:54] <fudgey> after trying to remove beryl
[06:54] <nobane> I need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE
[06:54] <Hirvinen> Or sound and multimedia only in multimedia applications?
[06:54] <inept>  now if i am irritating you kubuntu people then build a better distro
[06:54] <caleb> epimeth: I've never had any problems, either. However, my grandpa's new Toshiba refuses to sleep or hibernate under either Edgy or Feisty. Any possible fixes?
[06:54] <Jucato> Hirvinen: no, because there's no app that handles KDE Multimedia notifications. please check what the module does first
[06:55] <nobane> some one!?!?
[06:55] <nobane> I need help configuring my default desktop. Right now it boots the GNOME bootsplash and I want it to boot to KDE
[06:55] <fudgey> adydas: which method should I use?
[06:55] <epimeth> caleb: sorry man... not a clue
[06:55] <epimeth> nobane: give me a minute
[06:55] <Jucato> inept: if you want to help build a better distro, give more constructive and definite problems or ideas.don't just rant
[06:55] <inept> hell ! my old.. PH refuses to even reboot under kubuntu
[06:55] <xoss> is there an app in kubuntu that makes it easier to send a file to someone in the net?
[06:55] <nobane> k
[06:56] <inept> HP
[06:56] <xoss> ive tried using GAIM to send a file to a YM user he didnt get the file...
[06:56] <adydas> fudgey: the repos way
[06:56] <adydas> i did it
[06:56] <inept> but i kind of like kubuntu if you figure out how to make it work
[06:57] <adydas> i coudl allmost tell you want to do, you get the repo file add the line for beryl projects, add the key apt-get update, apt-get install beryl, beryl manager and like the theme thing and your basically done
[06:57] <caleb> nobane: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-switch-between-gdm-and-kdm-on-ubuntu/
[06:57] <adydas> faff with the x11 conf and your done
[06:57] <inept> does that bother anyone?
[06:57] <nobane> thank you!
[06:57] <caleb> nobane: Anytime.
[06:58] <nobane> :)
[06:58] <fudgey> okie
[06:58] <inept> i need another distro
[06:58] <fudgey> thanks a ton!
[06:58] <SolidSource> inept: KDE works in kubuntu just like in any other distro, but yes some commands must change due to the type of system it is....so unless you are going to be reasonable, helpful and constructive.....just please leave..........but no matter, /ignore time
[06:58] <LL_Hakaisou> inept
[06:58] <inept> i like deb and KDE though :((
[06:58] <LL_Hakaisou> i know that you think you are, and possibly may well be, some linux power user
[06:59] <epimeth> caleb: beat me to it!
[06:59] <LL_Hakaisou> but it is my impression that this chat is primarily for people who are new to ubuntu, and your elitest tone isn't all that helpful
[06:59] <Hirvinen> Tm_T: Do you think I should file it as a KDE or Ubuntu bug?
[06:59] <Jucato> Hirvinen: Ubuntu bug
[07:00] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: if he was, he would understand that there are differences and things will work different from system to system and thus be reasonable and not just complain
[07:00] <SolidSource> /ignore inept
[07:00] <Jucato> Hirvinen: or wish
[07:00] <fudgey> I got a problem
[07:00] <inept> good solid! i am happy you finaly found out what the iggy button is for :)
[07:00] <fudgey> my update manager doesnt open =/
[07:00] <LL_Hakaisou> that being said
[07:00] <fudgey> it just closes
[07:00] <inept> everyone one should have an achievement
[07:00] <fudgey> beryl really messed up my system =/
[07:01] <LL_Hakaisou> stop being an @$$hat, pull your heat out of your @$$, and try to be decent to the other people in the server
[07:02] <fudgey> hint too all ubuntu users with nvidia!!
[07:02] <caleb> fudgey: Open Konsole and type "sudo aptitude purge beryl" I believe. w/o quotes, of course.
[07:02] <Jucato> fudgey: yep?
[07:02] <LL_Hakaisou> fudgey: get ati? XD
[07:02] <fudgey> errors
[07:02] <ForgeAus> wow qt4 designer looks way nicer than qt3 one did... only its alot more Gimp-ified being in separate windows...
[07:03] <fudgey> repository is not known
[07:03] <fudgey> on line 43
[07:03] <Jucato> fudgey: beryl is a hit or miss thing.... it's not that stable to be reliable for everyone
[07:03] <fudgey> sources could not be read
[07:03] <SolidSource> fudgey: beryl itself is kind of a mess
[07:03] <fudgey> aw crap
[07:03] <fudgey> now what
[07:03] <Jucato> ForgeAus: really? I like that :D
[07:03] <fudgey> I gotta reinstall my system
[07:03] <Jucato> fudgey: so you're trying to install Beryl, not NVIDIA drivers?
[07:03] <fudgey> nah fuck beryl
[07:04] <Jucato> please watch the language
[07:04] <stdin> !language
[07:04] <caleb> fudgey: type "sudo kate /etc/X11/sources.list" and edit the offending line.
[07:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:04] <fudgey> im gonna try fix ubuntu now
[07:04] <Jucato> fudgey: ok, so what happened and what is the problem?
[07:04] <adydas> caleb: Err
[07:04] <ForgeAus> ahh nice... well I found the option to switch modes (mdi vs gimpified)
[07:04] <inept> aren'n we all using linux? i mean that is the kernal isant it?
[07:04] <Jucato> fudgey: were you trying to install nvidia?
[07:04] <fudgey> yep
[07:04] <Jucato> fudgey: or were you trying to install beryl?
[07:04] <fudgey> first beryl
[07:04] <adydas> beryl first
[07:04] <adydas> then do nvidia
[07:05] <adydas> follow that how to
[07:05] <fudgey> then it removed my nvidia drivers and many system files
[07:05] <ForgeAus> theres quite a wide range of operating systems that go under the heading of Linux
[07:05] <adydas> it worked fine for me first pop
[07:05] <Jucato> hm....
[07:05] <fudgey> now I cant do much
[07:05] <Jucato> adydas: what works for one doesn't necessarily mean it will work for everyone though...
[07:05] <caleb> fudgey: The error on line 43 of your sources.conf when you run aptitude or apt-get, right?
[07:05] <epimeth> so... anyone know how to get hebrew fonts for the filesystem?
[07:05] <fudgey> yeah
[07:05] <LL_Hakaisou> !system restore
[07:05] <fudgey> exactly
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm
[07:05] <SolidSource> !hebrew
[07:05] <ubotu>         :
[07:05] <adydas> Jucato: NV + Beryl via the wikipedia site.. it covered a range of situations
[07:06] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[07:06] <Jucato> fudgey: try checking what is in the 43rd line of your sources.list
[07:06] <SolidSource> !fonts
[07:06] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:06] <inept> realy forge! i thought the kenal maintainer decided what linux kernal was
[07:06] <ForgeAus> if you havn't seen it yet this is an intersting site: http://730x.up.md/wp-content/44218-1.png
[07:06] <LL_Hakaisou> is there anyway to create a restore point in linux in case i need to revert back to working settings?
[07:06] <ForgeAus> shows a timeline of linux distros... but it is in no way complete
[07:06] <fudgey> how to edit?
[07:06] <caleb> fudgey: That command I gave will open your sources.list in Kate, and then you should be able to fix it.
[07:06] <Jucato> inept: Linux is technically the kernel only. A lot of people prefer to call the OS as "Linux" also. period
[07:06] <inept> gues i am to drunk to remember the details
[07:06] <fudgey> kate doesnt work
[07:07] <fudgey> command not found
[07:07] <adydas> fudgey: these repos worked for m
[07:07] <adydas> deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[07:07] <adydas> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[07:07] <ForgeAus> btw Jucato remember my debian problrm?
[07:07] <caleb> fudgey: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:07] <epimeth> damn... the hebrew works... its just that those folders are in a different encoding than whatever the standard he_IL is
[07:07] <epimeth> grrr
[07:07] <Jucato> ForgeAus: which one? sorry short term memory :D
[07:07] <ForgeAus> those packages that wanted to break?
[07:07] <ForgeAus> big time depenancy circle?
[07:07] <Jucato> oh
[07:07] <ForgeAus> I fixed it :)
[07:08] <ForgeAus> but in what you'd probably call a bad way
[07:08] <inept> guess if kate doesent work then you you must be running linux with the KDE desktop
[07:08] <Jucato> ForgeAus: because you added the debian repo?
[07:08] <ForgeAus> yup turned out there was a mising dependancy in the edgy repos
[07:08] <fudgey> 43 line nvidia driver repository
[07:08] <ForgeAus> just one package fixed it :)
[07:08] <ForgeAus> so it wasn't broken it just wasn uninstallable
[07:08] <LL_Hakaisou> hmmm
[07:08] <Jucato> ForgeAus: good. but next time, try not to mix repositories :)
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> i never knew that red hat was a parent distro
[07:09] <ForgeAus> I'll be careful not to overwrite any edgy stuff with debian but I'm not promising not to add debian packages
[07:09] <fudgey> why would beryl remove the nvidia drivers?
[07:09] <fudgey> thats weird
[07:09] <Jucato> inept: please stop talking nonsense. if you are drunk, do not stay here and annoy people
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> just ignore him jucato
[07:09] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Debian .deb packages are mostly (not everytime) ok, though
[07:09] <LL_Hakaisou> the rest of the channel already has
[07:09] <SolidSource> fudgey: that is good question...but its just more reason to wait for it to become more stable
[07:09] <inept> redhat was aroung a long time before ubunto
[07:10] <Jucato> LL_Hakaisou: I'm not allowed to. but I have a better solution if he doesn't stop
[07:10] <fudgey> now im stuck with an unstable system haha
[07:10] <LL_Hakaisou> o rly?
[07:10] <ForgeAus> well I was a bit concerned about it seeing as QT in general is an essential component of KDE
[07:10] <Jucato> fudgey: perhaps the beryl repository contains a more updated nvidia driver than the one provided by Ubuntu
[07:10] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what do you mean?
[07:10] <daft_> g'day
[07:10] <daft_> how can i use .cgwdtheme files with compiz?
[07:10] <fudgey> so my card is not new enough?
[07:10] <ForgeAus> isn't KDE built on the QT toolkit?
[07:11] <fudgey> or the configuration needs to be fixed
[07:11] <caleb> fudgey: What model do you have?
[07:11] <ForgeAus> or is QT built into KDE? (in which case why would one need QT as well?)
[07:11] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes. but I don't understand what it had to do w/ Debian repositories? :D
[07:11] <LL_Hakaisou> !xubuntu
[07:11] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:11] <fudgey> 6600 geforce OC
[07:11] <Jucato> ForgeAus: KDE needs Qt libs :)
[07:11] <inept> ubuntu is kinda like lindows or whatever its called now or the rest of them befor debian that like to claim asosietion
[07:11] <LL_Hakaisou> oh ok then
[07:11] <ForgeAus> oh I was more concerned about the edgy ones...
[07:11] <Jucato> inept: I'm giving you your final warning
[07:11] <LL_Hakaisou> i kinda like KDE though, so i'll stick with this
[07:12] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Qt4 is available on Edgy btw. and you can install them side by side w/ Qt3
[07:12] <daft_> guilt by asosietion eh
[07:12] <ForgeAus> yeah thats what I got now
[07:12] <inept> juc! if you cant handle the truth kick me :)
[07:12] <caleb> fudgey: That's odd, because I had beryl working with my GeForce 4 MX... I'd try installing the drivers from NVidia's website, first and deleting the line from the sources.conf... Again, this worked for me but it may or may not work for you.
[07:12] <daft_> anyone know how to use cgwdtheme files with compiz?
[07:12] <akrus> posted a bug report :)
[07:13] <Jucato> inept: I can handle the truth. but you have not done anything but rant and annoy people and have already ignored my warnings
[07:13] <Jucato> daft_: try #ubuntu-effects
[07:13] <SolidSource> Jucato: wouldn't Qt4 be backwards compatible with things for Qt3?
[07:13] <daft_> ta
[07:13] <akrus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/89138 :3
[07:13] <fudgey> caleb does this include compiling?
[07:13] <fudgey> I have a really hard time compiling =/
[07:13] <Jucato> SolidSource: there's a special package for Qt3 compatibility, but technically, no
[07:13] <Jucato> !nvidia | fudgey
[07:13] <ubotu> fudgey: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:14] <Jucato> fudgey: I think there are instructions there on how to install the NVIDIA driver from nvidia.com
[07:14] <akrus> feisty 7.04 (FROZEN) <-- what does frozen mean?
[07:14] <Jucato> fudgey: you basically need a newer driver than the one provided by nvidia-glx
[07:14] <Jucato> akrus: it means that no new (big) features/apps can be added at this point in time
[07:14] <caleb> fudgey: It's a binary blob installer, so it's all self-contained, IIRC. Just make sure to do a "chmod 755" on the file, because otherwise, it won't run, if my memory serves me correctly.
[07:15] <akrus> Jucato: ah thanks
[07:15] <SolidSource> akrus: yep...the next month will be focused on bug fixes to make things stable and workign
[07:16] <fudgey> what if I have seen an eror relating to the chmod?
[07:16] <MarkC> woohoo, feisty is frozen now!!!
[07:16] <MarkC> all bugs are now features :)
[07:16] <fudgey> which directories should I chmod?
[07:16] <akrus> knetworkmanager will be working?! can't believe xD
[07:16] <prak> is anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?
[07:17] <akrus> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) is expected to be released in October 2006. :)
[07:17] <akrus> it's like we're going to play yesterday xD
[07:17] <Jucato> MarkC: Frozen doesn't mean no bug fixing :D
[07:17] <fudgey> brb im gonna log off root
[07:17] <SolidSource> akrus: I think the more critical thing would be whether external wireless cards and various peripherals would start working or working better
[07:17] <spitwise_> i changed all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list, but on upgrade it's holding back about 700 packages
[07:17] <akrus> oh by the way
[07:17] <akrus> WPA not working at all
[07:17] <akrus> on both of my routers o_O
[07:18] <Jucato> !upgrade | spitwise_
[07:18] <stdin> !upgrade | spitwise_
[07:18] <ubotu> spitwise_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:18] <akrus> can't connect, always fails~
[07:18] <Jucato> stdin: :P
[07:18] <spitwise_> tnx Jucato
[07:18] <SolidSource> akrus: yeah, never could get WPA working
[07:18] <stdin> ohh, just missed it :P
[07:18] <caleb> fudgey: In Konsole, do an "ls" and you should see a file that looks like "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-96**-pkg1.run" and then chmod that file.
[07:18] <crackhead> question: what should i do when adept sort of freezes during "preparing" stage of isntallation, after it's downloaded all the files??
[07:18] <inept> realy junk! i cant log in as my defined user name into Konsole ..because ubuntu dosent do it that wagty, Kubuntu does not include the JAVA runtimes on purcheasd Distros,kububtu decides what i can install from KDE. and Kubuntu only has one channel as defualt on thier default irc chanel?
[07:18] <Jucato> crackhead: what are you installing
[07:18] <inept>  kick me fskwit
[07:18] <caleb> The part that I used the ** for may be different from mine, so that's why I used the placeholders.
[07:19] <akrus> Jucato: developer? :x
[07:19] <crackhead> im installing a whole bunch of stuff
[07:19] <Jucato> akrus: not really :D
[07:19] <akrus> cheater?   How do I fix this?
[07:21] <SolidSource> Jucato: but there is no difference between buying and downloading the disc ISO...except who burns the disc
[07:21] <Jucato> SolidSource: yep.
[07:22] <SolidSource> Jucato: he must be used to paying for red hat and Mandriva (mandrake)
[07:22] <Magic-Fx> hey i've just started using kubuntu and im having some problems with my networking... is anyone available to help me out???
[07:22] <SolidSource> what problem?
[07:23] <caleb> Magic-Fx: And what networking hardware, while we're at it.
[07:23] <epimeth> speaking of burning discs... can I change my jigdo file to point to newer versions of packages... that way getting an "up to date" install disc?
[07:23] <Magic-Fx> ok... let me get started lol
[07:23] <SolidSource> epimeth: ....huh?
[07:23] <Magic-Fx> i have installed kubuntu 6.10 and updated all the packages... i connect to the internet through a router and im having problems with both the internet AND the network
[07:23] <epimeth> SolidSource: whats misunderstood?
[07:23] <Magic-Fx> i THINK its an issue with the DHCP but im not 100% sure
[07:24] <caleb> Magic-FX: Is it wireless or wired?
[07:24] <Magic-Fx> i am plugged strait into the router; but it is wireless
[07:24] <SolidSource> epimeth: you meaning update your install disc? cause you would generally have to burn a new disc for each version upgrade
[07:24] <epimeth> after installing kubuntu, an apt-get update installs updated packages.  I want these on the disc in the first place, no?
[07:24] <Magic-Fx> there is only 1 computer connected through wireless and the other computer is connected directly as is mine.
[07:25] <epimeth> SolidSource: no... just burn new ones and trash the old ones
[07:25] <caleb> Magic-Fx: So it's your wired connection that's having trouble?
[07:25] <SolidSource> epimeth: oh, they are actually stored for the most part
[07:25] <orient2000> Hi! Does anybody know why some DVDs do not show any files on it? malformed?
[07:25] <caleb> orient2000: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[07:25] <SolidSource> epimeth: not sure where, but you can also download load them with an apt-get command to be able to burn them
[07:26] <SolidSource> epimeth: as for a script to do it, don't know exactly
[07:26] <epimeth> SolidSource: forget it... I'm not even sure of what I'm asking
[07:27] <Magic-Fx> caleb: yeah... sometimes when i open firefox it wont load the page and other times it works fine, which is why im thinking its an issue with the dhcp.
[07:27] <epimeth> anyway... I *really* have to get some work done... so I'm gonna say "adios"... and not switch to "away" mode this time, right Jucato?
[07:27] <orient2000> libdvdcss2 is on a system
[07:27] <Jucato> epimeth: right :)
[07:27] <Jucato> epimeth: actuallyh
[07:27] <Jucato> you can switch to /away. just turn off the public /away message
[07:27] <epimeth> psych :-p
[07:28] <Jucato> epimeth: you were saying?
[07:28] <Jucato> :D
[07:28] <caleb> Magic-Fx: When it doesn't work, what do you usually do to fix the problem?
[07:28] <fudgey> hey
[07:28] <Magic-Fx> well... nothing. lol
[07:28] <Magic-Fx> sometimes it works sometimes it dont
[07:28] <orient2000> OK
[07:28] <Magic-Fx> i just keep closing it and retrying
[07:28] <fudgey> after installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?
[07:29] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Does it usually occur close to when you wake the system from standby/hibernation or on a clean boot, or does it just pop up out of nowhere, with the machine still running the whole time?
[07:29] <prak> is anyone familiar of installing beta versions of sdcc compiler?
[07:29] <Magic-Fx> out of nowhere
[07:30] <caleb> Magic-Fx: What network card do you have in your machine?
[07:30] <Magic-Fx> lspci
[07:30] <Magic-Fx> oops
[07:30] <Magic-Fx> hold one sec lol
[07:31] <Magic-Fx> 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9
[07:31] <fudgey> after installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?
[07:31] <SolidSource> ok, I got a question of my own...my mplayer plugin in firefox will only download the clip to 99% and stop, but then I "right click >> play" it doesn't play it though finishes downloading it. anyone hit that problem?
[07:31] <Hudson> Anyone ever had the Nvidia binary drivers just crap out on them? I booted up just now and X would not start. no settings were changed between my last reboot and this one.
[07:31] <Magic-Fx> that what u wanted? im not actually sure... its just a standard 10/100 ethernet card.
[07:31] <fudgey> solidsource my problem is worst .. I cant play anything with my mplayer
[07:31] <user____> dfdfdf
[07:32] <SolidSource> fudgey: I can't either..only download the clip and save it, then play it in kaffeine
[07:32] <fudgey> try vlc
[07:32] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Thank you, and give me a minute to see what I can find with the Google.
[07:32] <SolidSource> fudgey: though earlier mplayer wasn't even being recognized
[07:33] <fudgey> =/
[07:33] <Magic-Fx> thnx caleb
[07:33] <fudgey> solidsource my problem is worst .. I cant play anything with my mplayer
[07:33] <fudgey> ops wrong one
[07:33] <fudgey> lol
[07:33] <fudgey> after installing the nvidia driver do I change my nv to nvidia in my xorg configuration?
[07:33] <LL_Hakaisou> shoot
[07:33] <LL_Hakaisou> kaffeine won't start
[07:33] <SolidSource> fudgey: yes do
[07:33] <fudgey> okie
[07:34] <SolidSource> god I need to stop asking questions and then solving them myself
[07:34] <LL_Hakaisou> anyone have knowledge in how to get a program to start?
[07:34] <bh_> how's kde4 development going ?
[07:34] <LL_Hakaisou> i am trying to start kaffine, but when i do, the icon bounces for a while, then stops and nothing happens
[07:34] <fudgey> thanks
[07:34] <fudgey> bye
[07:35] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: that happens every now and then, just need to try opening it again
[07:35] <caleb> Magic-Fx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2196865
[07:36] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: if that doesn't work "ctrl+esc" search for "kaffeine" kill all the kaffeine processes, then try opening kaffeine again
[07:36] <caleb> Magic-Fx: There's a thread that shows a similar issue with earlier versions of Ubuntu, so that may help some. I'm also going to check Launchpad for anything related, as well.
[07:37] <Magic-Fx> caleb: awesome, thanks.
[07:37] <Magic-Fx> see, the only problem is... i can't load the page
[07:39] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Do you have any other browsers installed?
[07:39] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Also, which version of Kubuntu?
[07:39] <Magic-Fx> 6.10 and not aside from the default browser that comes with it
[07:39] <Magic-Fx> i forget the name.
[07:40] <SolidSource> konqueror
[07:40] <Magic-Fx> yeah thats the one
[07:40] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Does Konqueror work when Firefox doesn't?
[07:40] <Magic-Fx> yes
[07:41] <caleb> That sounds like a Firefox bug, to me.
[07:41] <SolidSource> magic-fx: you using AMD64?
[07:41] <Jucato> wow! konqueror works and firefox doesn't? yay
[07:41] <caleb> I think it has something to do with the default DHCP timeout with FF as opposed to Konqueror, because I've noticed this as well, with Dapper, Edgy and Feisty.
[07:42] <Magic-Fx> SolidSource: are u talking about my cpu or something else?
[07:42] <SolidSource> magic-fx: yes, 64bit 32bit?
[07:42] <Magic-Fx> 32bit
[07:42] <Magic-Fx> duron 1200, 512mb ddr
[07:42] <SolidSource> hmm...that is odd
[07:43] <Magic-Fx> i've used windows for years... recently i got a virus and had to do a format/reinstall and a friend came over with a copy of kubuntu so i installed it
[07:43] <Magic-Fx> im very limited with my linux knowledge (have only used shell accounts in the past) so im not 100% with it
[07:43] <Magic-Fx> but so far im VERY impressed and intend to keep using kubuntu.
[07:44] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Well, I'm glad you're happy, and I think I may have a solution..
[07:44] <Magic-Fx> i like the sound of that
[07:44] <SolidSource> magic-fx: it must be a firefox issue...could try www.getswiftfox.com since it installs a littel differently than adept installs firefox
[07:45] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Happy with Kubuntu, that is... And I think the problem is in the standard timeout for Firefox.. Let me look up how to change it, to see what happens.
[07:45] <SolidSource> it should be in about:config
[07:46] <Magic-Fx> ok thanks caleb
[07:46] <Absorto> hellow! please help me! I've run: xhost + ; DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0 xlogo and I get Error: can't open display <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[07:46] <Absorto> I also tried the hostname, and other IP addresses configured in this host. I don't understand what's going on. however if I try DISPLAY=:0.0 xlogo does run
[07:46] <Magic-Fx> does anyone know how i make my computer viewable through the network? I can see other computers (running windows) but they are unable to see me
[07:47] <Viesta> #Jakarta
[07:47] <caleb> Magic-Fx: As far as that goes, I think you have to install the samba package3
[07:47] <SolidSource> magic-FX: could be a problem with the windows machine firewall...also need samba installed
[07:47] <Magic-Fx> oh sweet as i don't have that installed, i'll do it now.
[07:48] <caleb> Magic-Fx: And I'd try changing the network.http.keep-alive.timeout setting in Firefox's about:config
[07:48] <Magic-Fx> how do i get to that caleb?
[07:48] <caleb> I think that'll work, but I normally don't use FF unless it won't open in Konqueror properly, so...
[07:49] <SolidSource> lol I am the opposite....can't do in konqueror what I can do in firefox...
[07:49] <norbert> Are there people with Feisty + mdadm + boot problems? I'm getting lots of wierd issues (that I'm having trouble isolating) and there seem to be similar unsolved problems on the forums - but I don't see any official bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs
[07:50] <caleb> Magic-Fx: type "about:config" into the address bar of Firefox when you open it. Then search for the line I gave you. After that, you'll double-click the number on the far-right and change that setting to something larger. I'd try 400 or 500, myself.
[07:51] <SolidSource> off topic announcement: Transformers is nearing release!!! only 4 months to go
[07:52] <Magic-Fx> ok ive changed it to 450, in the middle of ur suggestions :D
[07:52] <crackhead> question: what should i do when adept sort of freezes during "preparing" stage of isntallation, after it's downloaded all the files??
[07:52] <Jucato> crackhead: what are you trying to install (I think I asked this already earlier)
[07:52] <caleb> Now see if it works for you. If it doesn't, I'll see if I can come up with something else.
[07:52] <xine> hai all
[07:53] <SolidSource> crakhead: click "show details"
[07:53] <crackhead> im installing a whole list of things
[07:53] <crackhead> right now? jre
[07:53] <Jucato> SolidSource: offtopic reply: yay!
[07:53] <Jucato> crackhead: uh oh...
[07:53] <Jucato> !java | crackhead
[07:53] <ubotu> crackhead: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:53] <SolidSource> crackhead: you can't install java in adept
[07:53] <Jucato> crackhead: read the last sentence
[07:53] <crackhead> great, wish i had known beforehand
[07:54] <crackhead> so how do i cancel out adept, and can i cancel that particular install but still get the others, which have already dl'd?
[07:54] <Hudson> Jucato I think java 6 is available now
[07:54] <SolidSource> crackhead: you may need to do a "sudo dpkg --configure -a" first
[07:54] <Jucato> Hudson: yes. give me a few secs
[07:54] <Jucato> SolidSource: (tell him to close Adept first)
[07:54] <Hudson> ubuntu guide has the updated install instructions
[07:54] <SolidSource> crackhead; also yes,,,java6 instead
[07:54] <Magic-Fx> I will be back; Need to restart to change something in kernel.
[07:54] <Hudson> for JRE and Mozilla plugin
[07:55] <SolidSource> crackhead: close adept before running that command
[07:55] <colorboy> crackhead: use shell> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[07:55] <SolidSource> jucato there you go  :-D
[07:55] <Jucato> :P
[07:55] <SolidSource> ok recap
[07:55] <SolidSource> close adept
[07:55] <Jucato> Hudson: read the 2nd to the last sentence of the Java factoid
[07:56] <SolidSource> run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:56] <colorboy> otherwise reboot then you sure you are closed :-))
[07:56] <SolidSource> run "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin"
[07:57] <colorboy> enable multiverse and universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <SolidSource> lol...well if you want to do that sure
[07:58] <LL_Hakaisou> !WoW
[07:58] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:58] <Hudson> Jucato wtf is the java factoid? :)
[07:59] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: lol have fun with that...though I have it running flawlessly
[07:59] <Jucato> !java | Hudson
[07:59] <ubotu> Hudson: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:59] <Jucato> Hudson: this ^^^^
[08:01] <SolidSource> stupid www.imdb.com trailors...keeps causing mplayer to crash firefox
[08:01] <Hudson> Jucato so what does that mean exactly? java works on my system.
 Jucato I think java 6 is available now <---
[08:02] <Hudson> o
[08:02] <colorsoundboy> runescape is too slow with java on my machine so it don't work :|
[08:02] <SolidSource> lol
[08:02] <Hudson> I always thought those factoids were a way for ppl here to tell noobs to STFU
[08:02] <Hudson> so I never really read them
[08:02] <Hudson> :\
[08:03] <SolidSource> umm...no
[08:03] <Jucato> that's what you get. so RTFF (Read The Free Factoid) :D
[08:03] <SolidSource> just tells how to install stuff...so we don't have to go into details in the chat
[08:03] <Jucato> Hudson: actually the factoids are there to help save lots of typing and bookmarks
[08:03] <Hudson> I realize that now.
[08:04] <MarkC> and tell people to stfu.
[08:04] <MarkC> !stfu
[08:04] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:04] <SolidSource> you know by the time they get 64bit OS working to the same scale as 32bit OS....they will have 128bit
[08:04] <Hudson> lol see what I mean :)
[08:05] <orient2000> what is a comment to make a directory?
[08:05] <Hudson> mkdir
[08:05] <SolidSource> "mkdir"
[08:05] <orient2000> thks
[08:05] <Hudson> <3
[08:05] <Jucato> mkdir (in case you still didn't see :D)
[08:06] <SolidSource> ok, now all we need is stdin's "mkdir"
[08:06] <orient2000> I got permission denied
[08:06] <Hudson> where are you trying to make a dir?
[08:06] <MarkC> sudo mkdir :)
[08:06] <MarkC> /sys/ ?
[08:06] <Hudson> sudo mkdir then
[08:06] <stdin> huh, what?
[08:06] <orient2000> "/usr/share"
[08:06] <SolidSource> lol
[08:07] <Hudson> :)
[08:07] <Jucato> orient2000: why are you making a folder in /usr/share?
[08:08] <orient2000> I try to make install
[08:08] <Jucato> !compile
[08:08] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:08] <Jucato> you don't manually add directories to root owned directories unless you need to (which most of the time , you don't)
[08:08] <orient2000> it does not want to create directory so I try to do it myself first
[08:09] <orient2000> yes compile
[08:09] <Jucato> why and when doesn't it want to create a directory? did you use "sudo make install"?
[08:09] <SolidSource> orient2000: thats because its "sudo make" "sudo make install"
[08:09] <orient2000> OK
[08:09] <MarkC> jucato's fast.
[08:09] <Jucato> SolidSource: actually, "make" only
[08:09] <MarkC> i give... :)
[08:10] <Jucato> "./configure", "make", "sudo make install"
[08:10] <SolidSource> Jucato: depends, I've had some that "make" alone didn't want to work
[08:10] <Jucato> orient2000: that wiki page gives detailed instructions/guide on how to compile
[08:10] <Jucato> SolidSource: that would be very very strange... and probably a problem w/ either the source code or thedirectory
[08:11] <SolidSource> Jucato: maybe, but I got it working...though uninstalled it almost right after
[08:11] <orient2000> It worked thenks I am installing rubyripper
[08:12] <SolidSource> Jucato: me too..but the stupid source didn't want to work otherwise
[08:12] <Jucato> stupid source coders... :P
[08:13] <Magic-Fx> Hey... the firefox issue appears to be fixed thanks guys.
[08:13] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Glad we could help.
[08:13] <SolidSource> good work team!
[08:13] <Magic-Fx> hrm... seems i spoke too soon
[08:14] <SolidSource> lol
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> it works after i first reboot fine... but now its playing up again
[08:14] <caleb> Magic-Fx: That's really odd...
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> really really odd.
[08:14] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Are you sure it's not a problem with the site you're trying to access?
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> yeah im positive
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> the site is google.co.nz
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> which is the fastest webserver in new zealand
[08:14] <Magic-Fx> and i can access it fine from windows using firefox.
[08:15] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Try Konqueror and see what happens.
[08:15] <SolidSource> magic-fx: all I have to say is....you lucky lucky man....living in NZ
[08:16] <caleb> SolidSource: I agree with you. Anywhere could beat Tennessee, though...
[08:16] <SolidSource> caleb: oh come on...rock and roll capital of the world there
[08:16] <Magic-Fx> konq loads the page fine
[08:17] <SolidSource> caleb: it beats Utah...what we got? snow? great I can freeze my butt even easier
[08:17] <caleb> SolidSource: Touche.
[08:17] <caleb> Magic-Fx: Have you checked for an updated version of Firefox, yet?
[08:17] <Magic-Fx> SolidSource: your welcome to move to nz, i'll even put u up a place to stay if u fix my kubuntu lol
[08:17] <Magic-Fx> caleb: i've only just downloaded it mate
[08:18] <SolidSource> magic-fx: WOOHOO!
[08:19] <Magic-Fx> right; i've installed samba can someone help me with file sharing and shit please?
[08:19] <SolidSource> magic-fx: the funny thing is, I am actually looking at Australia and NZ as part of my post-graduation job search
[08:19] <reldruh> Magic-Fx: I can try, I've made a ton of mistakes with samba :-)
[08:19] <faraz> where is the repositories file located??
[08:20] <caleb> Magic-Fx: It should work, if you try to access your machine from Windows.. You'll have to login, but I think it'll work. Or, it will, based on my home network.
[08:20] <reldruh> faraz: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <caleb> faraz: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <faraz> thanks
[08:20] <SolidSource> magic-fx caleb: he still needs to configure first
[08:21] <SolidSource> magic-fx: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#samba_server        will get you started
[08:21] <caleb> SolidSource: I could've sworn it worked fine when I installed it on my desktop, but it's been so long that I really can't remember.
[08:21] <SolidSource> caleb: I've always had to do some configurations first
[08:23] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then
[08:23] <LL_Hakaisou> a nice fresh reboot
[08:23] <Magic-Fx> SolidSource: www.otago.ac.nz
[08:24] <SolidSource> magic-fx: that where you go?
[08:25] <margis> hello
[08:25] <margis> i have a problem with a tv tuner.....can anyone help?
[08:25] <margis> i cant  find  a way to install it
[08:26] <SolidSource> not I, though I shall be listening cause I'm thinking of getting one
[08:26] <margis> it is  the pctv 330e
[08:26] <reldruh> I just ordered one yesterday, but I can't help you out either :-(
[08:26] <margis> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+HD+Pro+Stick.htm
[08:26] <margis> i have this
[08:27] <SolidSource> well thats an interesting little thing
[08:27] <margis> can anyone  suggest me a programm to watch tv....(i will need it  when i install it
[08:27] <margis> it is nice  tuner
[08:28] <reldruh> margis: mythtv?
[08:28] <margis> but  i can use it  only with windows
[08:28] <reldruh> margis: are you sure there's a linux driver for it?
[08:28] <LL_Hakaisou> ok then...
[08:28] <margis> mythtv ,,,,,yes,..but i  cant  install it
[08:28] <LL_Hakaisou> i installed wine, but there is no .wine folder in my home directory
[08:28] <reldruh> margis: can't install myth or the tuner?
[08:28] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: you need to run wine at least 1 time first
[08:29] <LL_Hakaisou> i have
[08:29] <LL_Hakaisou> just type in wine, right?
[08:29] <LL_Hakaisou> aha
[08:30] <LL_Hakaisou> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/(username omitted)/.wine'
[08:31] <MarkC> LL_Hakaisou: winecfg ?
[08:31] <john> Would anyone know why I am unable to modify my master volume using the alsa driver but am able to modify my PCM volume.
[08:32] <john> My volume is soooo low.
[08:32] <margis> i cant  install  both of them
[08:33] <LL_Hakaisou> i think my copy of wine is messed up
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> nothing involving the wine command is working
[08:34] <reldruh> margis: I'd worry about the tuner first. If you can't get that working there's no point in installing mythtv. Find out if there's a driver for it. The mythtv wiki might be helpful
[08:34] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: you mean in run command "wine" doesn't do anything?
[08:34] <LL_Hakaisou> it just displays the help dialog
[08:35] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: try in konsole "wine-cfg
[08:35] <SolidSource> without quote
[08:35] <LL_Hakaisou> command not found
[08:35] <LL_Hakaisou> do you mean winecfg?
[08:35] <SolidSource> margis: try kdetv
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> woah...
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> i just got like, 15 error messages in the Konsole
[08:36] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: ok...so no dash
[08:36] <LL_Hakaisou> that's what threw all the messages at me
[08:36] <SolidSource> LL_Hakaisou: are the errors about dependcies:
[08:36] <SolidSource> ?
[08:37] <LL_Hakaisou> i think...
[08:37] <professor> hi
[08:37] <LL_Hakaisou> i dunno
[08:37] <reldruh> hi professor
[08:37] <seanOne> sudo wine-cfg
[08:37] <LL_Hakaisou> seanOne: same result
[08:38] <seanOne> balls
[08:38] <LL_Hakaisou> the problem is that wine never setup a /.wine/ directory when i installed it for some reason
[08:38] <LL_Hakaisou> i think
[08:38] <LL_Hakaisou> i think i need to uninstall it then reinstall it
[08:41] <crackhead> when adept is hanging on preparing to install jre (because jre cant be installed with adept), what do i do to cancel or skip the jre install there and continue with the rest? it already downloaded everything, but did not install anything..
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:41] <SolidSource> crackhead: just exit adept
[08:42] <SolidSource> crackhead: and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and that should install it all
[08:42] <john> Anyone have any ideas why alsamixer wont let me adjust Master Volume.
[08:42] <john> It just says 00 for its value.
[08:42] <john> Im unable to increase it.
[08:43] <SolidSource> crackhead: if not, install java in konsole, then go back into adept for the rest...you won't have to wait for download
[08:43] <crackhead> will it have stored the list of files i was in the midst of installing?
[08:44] <SolidSource> you will have to reselect them
[08:44] <crackhead> i just tried to do the dpkg, hit return. it just seeemd to complete in a split second and went to a fresh user prompt.
[08:44] <crackhead> it didnt install everything, im sure.
[08:44] <crackhead> do you think a thread of adept is still running somewhere? i just went to open adept again, and it presented the sudo login, but then didn't load up afterwards.
[08:45] <SolidSource> crackhead: stay out of adept and in konsole, "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin"
[08:45] <crackhead> im not saying just for java. how do i get back into adept anyway? i just tried, and it didnt load.
[08:46] <SolidSource> crackhead: just try again
[08:46] <SolidSource> crackhead: that such thing happens from time to time
[08:46] <crackhead> i see i have several adept maanger processes running in kde sys guard. im going to kill 'em, and then restart the adept. that should work, right?
[08:47] <SolidSource> crackhead: yes it will...though you will have to start ksysgaurd with "kdesu ksysguard"
[08:47] <crackhead> from konsole?
[08:47] <SolidSource> can or "alt+F2"
[08:48] <SolidSource> for run command
[08:48] <mefisto__> has anyone here had any luck using K9copy?
[08:48] <crackhead> bam, worked like magic, baby. ha
[08:48] <reldruh> mefisto__: yes, I love it
[08:48] <SolidSource> mefisto__: I use it regularly
[08:49] <reldruh> does anybody know when the new version will get into the repos? I've had trouble compiling it on my own
[08:49] <SolidSource> reldruh: compiling what?
[08:50] <reldruh> SolidSource: the latest version of k9copy
[08:50] <reldruh> it was updated to 1.1.0 or something, but the version in the repos is something below that, even in the feisty one
[08:50] <mefisto__> k9copy users: I get error msg "an error occured while running DVDAuthor". do you ever get that?
[08:51] <SolidSource> mefisto__: nope neevr seen it, you have libdvd* all installed?
[08:51] <mefisto__> yes
[08:51] <reldruh> mefisto__: I've never gotten that, but this is a good example of where the newer version would be nice. The changelog for 1.1.0 is '- backup without menus, without dvdauthor'
[08:52] <john> Any ideas..
[08:52] <john> Unable to modify master volume using alsa driver.
[08:52] <john> Master volume just says 00
[08:52] <john> when viewed via alsamixer
[08:52] <mefisto__> reldruh: the version I have (from repos) IS 1.1.0
[08:53] <Ayabara2> anyone using krusader? I'm looking for a package of 1.8 beta, but I can't find one for kubuntu
[08:53] <reldruh> mefisto__: is it a beta?
[08:53] <SolidSource> reldruh: this thread has a repo that might have it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108069
[08:53] <jake> hi everybody im new to kubuntu somebody please help
[08:53] <reldruh> jake: what's the problem?
[08:54] <jake> how do i install software at this os?
[08:54] <SolidSource> reldruh: though it says breezy in it...they might have a edgy section
[08:54] <SolidSource> reldruh: which they do...and it has 1.1 in it
[08:55] <reldruh> jake: depends on what you're trying to install. For most stuff, if you open up adept (press alt+space and start typing adept) you can search for programs. When you find one you want, right click on it and click 'Request Install'
[08:55] <reldruh> jake: when you've requested everything you want, hit hte apply changes button at the top
[08:55] <SolidSource> jake: don't install java in it though!!
[08:56] <jake> thanx i'll try rbr
[08:56] <jake> btw can you install .exe files?
[08:56] <reldruh> jake: no, those are windows specific. They won't work on linux. But you don't need them, there's a ton of great software in adept
[08:57] <jake> because i really need my cakewalk program
[08:57] <reldruh> SolidSource: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+package/k9copy. They all look like betas of the 1.1 release. The final one would be nice. I think the lack of dvdauthor came about between the last beta and the release
[08:57] <reldruh> jake: what does it do? Chances are good there's an equivelant for linux
[08:58] <jake> midi editing software
[08:58] <SolidSource> reldruh: well...thought 1.1 was still in beta....I don't know then
[08:58] <reldruh> SolidSource: 1.1's definitely been released. Check kde-apps.org
[08:59] <SolidSource> reldruh: just looked at its main site
[08:59] <reldruh> does anybody here use rosegarden? jake, rosegarden is a very high quality audio editing program for linux; it will probably fill your needs. I don' tknow much about it, though
[09:00] <jake> ok thanx a lot reldruh, one more question, how bout games can i install my age of empire 2?
[09:01] <crackhead> question: where does wget put any downloaded package? does it store it only in some temp file/folder that gets erased after a while?
[09:01] <reldruh> jake: possibly with wine (it's a program that lets you run some windows programs on linux) or cedega (a game oriented version of wine)
[09:01] <SolidSource> jake: through WINE or crossover linux, you possibly could
[09:01] <LL_Hakaisou> either one costs money though
[09:02] <SolidSource> crackhead: wget saves the file in whatever directary you are currently in under konsole
[09:02] <cj_sze> :)))
[09:02] <SolidSource> crackhead: unless specified otherwise
[09:02] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: WINE is free. Crossover isn't..
[09:02] <jake> thank you very much guys brb
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> that's what i ment caleb
[09:02] <adydas> beryl is easy
[09:02] <LL_Hakaisou> i was referring to Cedega and Crossover
[09:02] <daft_> hey, noob question but how do I configure my autostart in KDE?
[09:02] <caleb> LL_Hakaisou: Oh. Nevermind.
[09:03] <SolidSource> Crossover and cedega aren't free, but they make things much easier than messing with wine
[09:03] <adydas> daft_: adydas@adydas:~/.kde/Autostart
[09:03] <daft_> thanks sir
[09:03] <reldruh> what is autostart?
[09:03] <adydas> err /home/user/.kde/Autostart
[09:03] <daft_> ok
[09:04] <adydas> reldruh: AUto start programs on boot
[09:04] <reldruh> mmm, that sounds useful
[09:04] <daft_> ok, and what do i do with the folder
[09:04] <adydas> you put the program(s) via ln -s into there
[09:04] <daft_> ahh
[09:04] <daft_> ta
[09:05] <adydas> so ln -s /etc/apache/apache.sh as a bad eg
[09:05] <reldruh> all right, g'night everybody
[09:05] <hyper__ch> or one could save the session and restart the session upon reboot
[09:06] <hyper__ch> adydas: apache should be started from the init
[09:06] <adydas> i said a BAD eg
[09:06] <adydas> it was the only thing i could think of
[09:06] <jake> how can i install tar.gz files?
[09:06] <caleb> Dumb question, but is there a way I can switch off the second processor core on my Core Duo without rebooting and going into the BIOS?
[09:07] <adydas> jake:  you dont isntall them, you can unzip with tar -zxvf filename.gz
[09:07] <adydas> better eg for Autostart then, lrwxrwxrwx 1 adydas adydas 22 2007-03-02 11:07 beryl-manager -> /usr/bin/beryl-m
[09:07] <caleb> jake: Then cd into the directory, and if it's a binary, run it. If not, ./configure, make, make install
[09:07] <SolidSource> jake: here this site will explain most of your initial questions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[09:08] <Jucato> !compile | jake
[09:08] <ubotu> jake: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:08] <Jucato> jake: what is that .tar.gz? what are you trying to install?
[09:08] <jake> wine
[09:08] <Jucato> wine is in the repos jake...
[09:08] <SolidSource> jake: adept can install that
[09:08] <adydas> jake: apt-get install wine
[09:08] <Jucato> and it's one of the hardest things to compile
[09:09] <Jucato> !info wine
[09:09] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[09:09] <hyper__ch> jake: and you find current wine versions in the winehq repos
[09:09] <Jucato> !info wine edgy-backports
[09:09] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.30-0ubuntu2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 9355 kB, installed size 43704 kB
[09:09] <jake> thanx
[09:09] <Jucato> hyper__ch: latest is 0.9.31. Edgy has 0.9.30
[09:09] <Evil_DuDe> is there a great difference between them ?
[09:10] <hyper__ch> Jucato: :) well, using the repos from budgetdedicated
[09:10] <Jucato> Evil_DuDe: beside the ubuntu version being 1 release late?
[09:10] <Evil_DuDe> yeah
[09:11] <Jucato> the ubuntu version has been built against ubuntu and packaged by the official Ubuntu packagers (MOTU's)
[09:11] <hyper__ch> Evil_DuDe: have a look at the version history of it
[09:11] <Evil_DuDe> ok
[09:11] <Evil_DuDe> thank you
[09:13] <SolidSource> speaking of SSH, has anyone had problems with running KDM through SSH and upon logout, the host computer crash?
[09:13] <caleb> Always make sure you're in the right machine when checking a sources.list and if it looks like the wrong version, don't do a "find and replace" and save before looking...
[09:13] <hyper__ch> Evil_DuDe: for the diffs:  http://www.winehq.com/?announce=latest
[09:14] <Evil_DuDe> hey thanks
[09:14] <caleb> SolidSource: No, I haven't tried that, but I can test to se what happens.
[09:14] <SolidSource> caleb: well its in correlation with XMDC (or whatever it is)
[09:15] <daft_> thanks for your help adydas
[09:15] <daft_> bye all
[09:16] <caleb> SolidSource: Ah... I usually haven't any reason to run remote X apps, except for when I want to control my desktop's Amarok setup via the notebook...
[09:17] <caleb> Too lazy to hook the notebook up to the good speakers, when I can ssh into the machine that has the good stuff...
[09:17] <SolidSource> caleb: I do, cause I like to be able to monitor my torrents or what ever else I left it doing
[09:18] <SolidSource> caleb: such as...dist-upgrade...cause my connection sucks and ithat takes forever
[09:18] <caleb> SolidSource: I forgot about that.. Plus, it's nice for escaping proxy servers that block esr's website...
[09:18] <SolidSource> caleb: yep that too
[09:19] <yapyccky> hello. who can help me to mount an sd memory card?
[09:19] <caleb> yapyccky: What card reader do you have?
[09:19] <SolidSource> it should do it automatically just like a USB drive
[09:19] <yapyccky> 02:05.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
[09:20] <yapyccky> 02:05.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
[09:20] <yapyccky> thats what i get from lspci
[09:20] <SolidSource> internal or external ?
[09:20] <caleb> SolidSource: The TI reader built-in to my laptop doesn't exactly like me very well...
[09:20] <yapyccky> internal
[09:20] <caleb> yapyccky: Does it show any changes in dmesg when you insert/remove a card?
[09:20] <SolidSource> caleb: ok, you help cause I have never had problems with any internal card readers
[09:21] <yapyccky> yes caleb
[09:21] <yapyccky>  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17264035.160000]  cs: memory probe 0xfe800000-0xfeafffff: excluding 0xfe800000-0xfe82ffff 0xfead0000-0xfeafffff
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17264035.160000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17265007.644000]  pccard: card ejected from slot 0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17265013.852000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17265013.852000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[09:21] <yapyccky> [17265023.948000]  pccard: card ejected from slot 0
[09:21] <caleb> yapyccky: It's seeing it as a PC Card for some reason.. Weird..
[09:21] <yapyccky> what should i do?...
[09:22] <caleb> yapyccky: Wait a sec... That was the Cardbus you detected... Can you send me the entire dmesg output as a plain-text file?
[09:23] <pirothezero> anyone know any good sources to read for RandR extensions?
[09:23] <pirothezero> like specs or something
[09:23] <caleb> yapyccky: And the lspci -nv output, as well. Just do both, and use Konsole's "Save History As" function.
[09:24] <caleb> Er, lspci -v
[09:24] <yapyccky> im sending u dmesg.txt
[09:26] <yapyccky> caleb, do u get my files?
[09:26] <caleb> No, I'm not getting them.
[09:28] <yapyccky> caleb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8185/
[09:29] <caleb> So the SD reader is a Cardbus card, right?
[09:29] <yapyccky> it seems so
[09:29] <yapyccky> 02:05.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 1894
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 177
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Memory at fe801000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Bus: primary=02, secondary=04, subordinate=07, sec-latency=176
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Memory window 0: 36000000-37fff000 (prefetchable)
[09:29] <caleb> yapyccky: Can you do an lspci -v for me, as well?
[09:29] <yapyccky>         Memory window 1: 38000000-39fff000
[09:29] <yapyccky>         I/O window 0: 0000cc00-0000ccff
[09:29] <yapyccky>         I/O window 1: 00001000-000010ff
[09:29] <yapyccky>         16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
[09:29] <yapyccky> ok, wait
[09:30] <yapyccky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8186/
[09:31] <yapyccky> here it is
[09:31] <SolidSource> off topic: this is going to be one great B-day.... Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comes out on my B-day
[09:31] <SolidSource> gonna have to get wasted and go see it
[09:31] <LL_Hakaisou> it's gonna suck
[09:32] <LL_Hakaisou> i loved the ninja turtles, and it pains me to see what they are doing to it
[09:32] <SolidSource> why say that?
[09:32] <LL_Hakaisou> you seen the trailer?
[09:32] <SolidSource> yeah
[09:32] <LL_Hakaisou> i dunno, something about it doesn't sit right with me
[09:33] <SolidSource> what just cause theres no Shredder? that movie has been done
[09:33] <yapyccky> caleb, what do u think?
[09:34] <SolidSource> though, its possible they are loosing touch with the turtles original personalities
[09:35] <Tido> anyone here installed ktorrent 2.1?
[09:35] <SolidSource> nope, azureus is better so use it
[09:35] <SolidSource> so I*
[09:35] <fignew> SolidSource: better at using your ram and CPU
[09:36] <Tido> az has a lot of overhead for a bt client >.>
[09:36] <fignew> Tido: yes, I do
[09:36] <Tido> (though az is fantastic, just java)
[09:36] <SolidSource> but it does the best job, torrents get done faster in it
[09:36] <fignew> I would run utorrent under wine before I run azureus
[09:37] <Tido> well, of course kubuntu comes with ktorrent 2.0x, but it really is slow
[09:37] <SolidSource> well I don't notice any performance problems...but I have a pretty damn good machine
[09:37] <Tido> and I know about port forwards, etc
[09:37] <Tido> I'm doing wine+utorrent atm and it is twice as fast as ktorrent 2.0x
[09:37] <Tido> the problem is, I'm running wine....with utorrent
[09:37] <Tido> is 2.1 faster?
[09:38] <fignew> It's hard for me to tell
[09:38] <fignew> cause I'm on a 100mbit connection, so the limit is always the swarm of users on the torrent
[09:38] <Tido> where do you live?
[09:39] <fignew> College dorm :)
[09:39] <Tido> I meant geographically
[09:39] <caleb> yapyccky: Have you tried "sudo modprobe sd_mod" and "sudo modprobe scsi_mod"
[09:39] <fignew> Georgia
[09:39] <SolidSource> thats a shared T1 or T3 line (5-30Mbs max)
[09:39] <Tido> must be ga tech then
[09:39] <fignew> yep :)
[09:39] <yapyccky> now i di
[09:40] <Tido> normally I'd agree with you SolidSource, but GA Tech has god's internet
[09:40] <Tido> anyways, is 2.1 in a package?
[09:40] <yapyccky> now?
[09:40] <fignew> yes
[09:40] <fignew> I got it from the official ktorrent site
[09:41] <Tido> k, I'll try that, thanks
[09:41] <caleb> yapyccky: Try it, and see what happens, now. I'm still looking through the Ubuntu forums, though.
[09:41] <yapyccky> caleb, nothing happend...
[09:41] <fignew> Tido, now that I think about it though, sometimes it does run slow
[09:42] <fignew> It'll connect to 8-10 hosts, and it just sits on them
[09:42] <fignew> even if they're slow
[09:42] <caleb> yapyccky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282179
[09:42] <fignew> I guess I've only had that problem on the wifi
[09:43] <fignew> lol, Tido, you're from georgia? #ubuntu-georgia ;)
[09:43] <caleb> yapyccky: There's some good information if you don't mind wading through it. However, since it's a Ricoh card reader, I'm unsure as to whether it'll work or not, because I've seen information saying that they don't work under Ubuntu.
[09:43] <yapyccky> ok....thx caleb.
[09:44] <caleb> yapyccky: No problem. I've got to get my internal reader working as well, so it's not like it's distracting me from what I was already doing.
[09:45] <yapyccky> thx
[09:46] <caleb> Also, you may wnat to install the ivman package.
[09:47] <caleb> I hate to leave good company, but it's almost 3 AM and I've got three essays due at 8 AM, so I'll be going back to writing.
[09:48] <fignew> caleb: gee, you're just like me when it comes to doing work :P
[09:49] <caleb> fignew: Well, when it's boring work, it gets pushed back. Especially when everyone and their cat has my cell number and makes full use of it whenever there's a computer problem anywhere in my particular town...
[09:50] <eXistenZ> Hello guys, is there a firefox-kde integration patch or something of that kind?
[09:51] <caleb> System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts
[09:51] <Jucato> eXistenZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKDE
[09:51] <eXistenZ> Jucato, Thanks a million!
[09:52] <Jucato> eXistenZ: it's a bit "superficial" though... in most cases...
[09:52] <eXistenZ> Jucato, I mean the "Open file" option.
[09:52] <eXistenZ> It just doesn't open the file =/
[09:53] <Jucato> from the Download manager?
[09:53] <Jucato> Firefox's download manager, I mean?
[09:53] <eXistenZ> yes.
[09:53] <Jucato> not really sure though. sorry
[09:54] <SolidSource> I think it is known, cause I haven't seen it work outside of windows
[09:55] <pirothezero> can someone explain to me briefly what RandR is ?
[09:55] <adydas> Rest and relaxation??
[09:55] <SolidSource> lol
[09:55] <caleb> SolidSource: It works under Mac OS X, as well. *points at the old PowerBook and the Mac mini while whistling innocently*
[09:55] <adydas> :P
[09:56] <pirothezero> lol adydas
[09:56] <SolidSource> caleb: ok ok...outside of the greedy corporate OSs
[09:56] <Jucato> adydas: that's R & R :P
[09:56] <adydas> everyone needs some rnr
[09:57] <Jucato> pirothezero: X Resize and Rotate extension: http://keithp.com/~keithp/talks/randr/
[09:57] <caleb> So, anyone other than me try the latest KDE4 release?
[09:57] <SolidSource> not messing with it till its complete
[09:58] <Jucato> release?
[09:58] <Jucato> that's KDE 3.80.x "developers'" snapshots.
[09:58] <pirothezero> thx!
[09:58] <Jucato> pirothezero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randr
[09:58] <Jucato> don't you just love Google and Wikipedia? :D
[09:58] <pirothezero> having one hell of a time trying to run beryl with portrait mode using the rotate command
[09:59] <pirothezero> is xrandr the same thing?
[09:59] <Erunno> caleb: I compiled parts of it in the last few days. Nothing earth-shattering so far.
[09:59] <Jucato> tablet pc? O.o
[09:59] <pirothezero> neg dual dell monitors
[09:59] <Jucato> ooh....
[09:59] <pirothezero> that can rotate 90 degrees, and if i uncomment "Rotate" "True" it works and passes the RandR test
[10:00] <Jucato> KDE4 stuff so far are under-the-hood changes.
[10:00] <pirothezero> but with Rotate in there it fails back to the failsafe so I want to learn more about RandR
[10:00] <Erunno> I'm close to buying a new notebook. Does anyone know if dual monitor support work with the recent free/binary ATI drivers ?
[10:00] <Jucato> pirothezero: have you used krandrtray?
[10:00] <pirothezero> no
[10:00] <Jucato> :D
[10:00] <pirothezero> that like on the fly type app
[10:00] <pirothezero> ?
[10:00] <caleb> Jucato: Quite true. However, the few bits of UI mods they've thrown out are pretty nice...
[10:02] <SolidSource> no extreme changes in GUI can truly be made until holigraphic projectors are created
[10:03] <pirothezero> not in apt-get it looks like
[10:03] <Erunno> Direct feed to the brain ftw.
[10:03] <pirothezero> will have to find krandrtray elsewhere
[10:03] <soulfree> can i get help?
[10:03] <Jucato> pirothezero: er.. installed by default :)
[10:04] <Jucato> pirothezero: that's the command to run it. Alt+F2, krandrtray
[10:04] <pirothezero> cant find it in system desktop applet
[10:04] <pirothezero> oh
[10:04] <pirothezero> word
[10:04] <soulfree> i wanna see divx and wmv files on my kubuntu
[10:04] <soulfree> but i don't  know how to
[10:05] <SolidSource> !w32codecs
[10:05] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[10:05] <pirothezero> be back in a bit
[10:05] <soulfree> yes! i heard about win32 codecs
[10:07] <milaks> Hi. Since I do not have right ctrl key (I have a mini keyboard), I've mapped both right win-key and menu key (which I do not use) in ~/.Xmodmap to be ctrl. And this works fine in GNOME. In KDE however it depends, it works that way until I for exmaple start to type message in Kopete, in which case both keys are reverted. Dose anynone knows solution to this?
[10:07] <Skuller> !restricted
[10:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <Skuller> !amr
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Skuller> !codecs
[10:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:08] <Skuller> !3gp
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <Lynoure> milaks: you could try running you Xmodmap from ~/.kde/Autostart for KDE
[10:09] <Jucato> !botabuse | Skuller
[10:09] <ubotu> Skuller: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:09] <Skuller> Jucato: sorry
[10:10] <milaks> Lynoure: I'm doing that already, and mapping works until I for example start typing message in Kopete, after that they behave like before mapping.
[10:10] <milaks_> Hi. Since I do not have right ctrl key (I have a mini keyboard), I've mapped both right win-key and menu key (which I do not use) in ~/.Xmodmap to be ctrl. And this works fine in GNOME. In KDE however it depends, it works that way until I for exmaple start to type message in Kopete, in which case both keys are reverted. Dose anynone knows solution to this?
[10:11] <Lynoure> milaks: hmm, ok, you only mentioned ~/.Xmodmap so I thought that's the only place where you have your xmodmap
[10:11] <milaks> Lynoure: in Autostart I have "url to application" from which I call xmodpam ~/.Xmodmap
[10:12] <Lynoure> milaks: does it only happen in Kopete or also in other kde apps? If not in all, which ones?
[10:12] <akrus> could someone help me with SSH? :x
[10:12] <akrus> it's started but not working
[10:12] <akrus> what's the problem :)
[10:12] <Lynoure> akrus: Probably, just give more detail.
[10:12] <Lynoure> akrus: ssh out or sshd?
[10:13] <akrus> sshd
[10:13] <milaks> Lynoure: Well I dont know for others, for example I'm using Konversation right now, and it works fine, those keys are still ctrl.
[10:13] <akrus> trying to connect to localhost -> nothing :(
[10:13] <akrus> it worked before
[10:13] <akrus> where should the logs be?
[10:13] <Lynoure> akrus: So, what has changed between?   /var/log/daemon.log, I think
[10:14] <akrus> Lynoure: nothing :)
[10:14] <akrus> daemon.log -> no 'ssh'
[10:14] <Lynoure> akrus: usually when people claim nothing has changed, they are forgetting some things...
[10:15] <akrus> ok, Feb 27 08:38:11 flygroup sshd[5407] : Server listening on :: port 22.
[10:15] <akrus> i did not touch ssh ever
[10:15] <akrus> it worked on feb.27
[10:15] <milaks> Lynoure: any ideas?
[10:15] <Lynoure> akrus: But did you install e.g. a firewall?
[10:15] <akrus> Lynoure: no
[10:15] <akrus> newer kernel only
[10:15] <akrus> :)
[10:15] <soulfree> hmm.. thanks!^^
[10:15] <Lynoure> milaks: no, sorry. I assume you have googled for xmodmap Kopete already?
[10:16] <akrus> feb.28 also working :)
[10:16] <milaks> yea
[10:16] <Lynoure> akrus: no reboots after feb 28th?
[10:16] <akrus> there were
[10:16] <Lynoure> akrus: if there are, did the sshd still start listening after?
[10:16] <apallo> is there a way to play windows streaming video in firefox?
[10:17] <Lynoure> akrus: if not, what if you start it manually?
[10:17] <akrus> Mar  1 19:23:46 flygroup sshd[11296] : Server listening on :: port 22.
[10:17] <akrus> after that - no restarts
[10:17] <akrus> 11296 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[10:17] <akrus> Lynoure: /etc/init.d/ssh restart? :)
[10:17] <Lynoure> akrus: What happens when you try to connect?
[10:17] <akrus> Lynoure: nothing
[10:17] <akrus> Lynoure: no info in logs & no ssh reply :(
[10:17] <Lynoure> akrus: nothing? no timeout even?
[10:18] <akrus> Lynoure: what's the timeout?
[10:18] <akrus> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out
[10:18] <Lynoure> akrus: that is a timeout.
[10:18] <akrus> yeah
[10:18] <akrus> x_X
[10:18] <Lynoure> What if you telnet to the same port?
[10:18] <akrus> lemme check
[10:18] <akrus> no reply
[10:18] <akrus> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[10:19] <akrus> woo
[10:19] <akrus> woot
[10:19] <akrus> works
[10:19] <akrus> when IP is specified
[10:19] <akrus> (external one)
[10:19] <akrus> but not the local :x
[10:20] <Lynoure> akrus: why do you need to ssh to localhost anyway :)
[10:20] <Magic-Fx> hey guys i got my network working fine, thanks for all the help. I still had issues with firefox so i have just uninstalled it.
[10:20] <akrus> to show kde4 for friend of mine :D
[10:20] <f4ggz0r> hey guys my kubuntu wont start... it just puts me in black screen or console mode root@username-desktop:~#...     wat do i do next ??
[10:20] <Lynoure> akrus: they cannot access your ip instead? Interesting.
[10:21] <akrus> Permission denied, please try again. <-- wtf?
[10:21] <akrus> password is right
[10:21] <akrus> just did passwd
[10:21] <akrus> o_O
[10:21] <f4ggz0r> help :(
[10:21] <akrus> ah
[10:21] <akrus> it looks like it's router xD
[10:21] <akrus> lol yeah
[10:21] <akrus> xD
[10:22] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: does it give any errors in the process? And what has changed since it worked?
[10:23] <akrus> hmmm
[10:23] <f4ggz0r> umm i made a few changes in the bios, nothing big, atleast i didnt think so
[10:23] <akrus> netstat -al does not show ssh
[10:23] <f4ggz0r> no errors
[10:24] <soulfree> thanks...
[10:24] <akrus> tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[10:24] <akrus> tcp6?
[10:24] <akrus> is it ipv6?
[10:24] <soulfree> really thank you
[10:25] <soulfree> and how can i see some divx files on kaffein?
[10:25] <akrus> soulfree: install mplayer with codecs
[10:25] <soulfree> oh...
[10:25] <soulfree> can't operatin on my player?
[10:26] <Jucato> soulfree: divx uses .avi. so libxine-extracodecs will take care of that
[10:26] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: Checked the log for xserver already? anything interesting there?
[10:26] <akrus> hm, i simply installed mplayer so it added the codecs automatically :)
[10:26] <soulfree> jukato: thank you
[10:27] <akrus> Lynoure: any ideas anyway? :)
[10:27] <f4ggz0r> log for xserver? how do i do that ?
[10:27] <soulfree> and now i'll fond it :)
[10:27] <Lynoure> akrus: I thought you just said it was your router causing it.
[10:27] <akrus> Lynoure: nah
[10:27] <naught101> anyone know why the ubuntu version of gparted lags so far behind the standard version?
[10:27] <akrus> Lynoure: just when i used ext.ip i was connected to my router :)
[10:28] <akrus> localhost is not connected anyway~
[10:29] <Lynoure> akrus: localhost is local, on your own computer only. I still do not see how you need if for your friend. If they are already on your system, why do they need to ssh onto it?
[10:29] <akrus> Lynoure: KDE4 is started via SSH
[10:29] <akrus> x_X
[10:29] <akrus> anyway
[10:29] <akrus> the same happens for VirtualBox
[10:29] <akrus> when connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> -> no reply...
[10:30] <akrus> let's try plain install
[10:31] <akrus> does not work anyway...
[10:31] <Lynoure> <IP_ADDRESS> is your private ip? <IP_ADDRESS> is the localhost ip.
[10:32] <akrus> I know
[10:32] <akrus> <IP_ADDRESS> is used in VirtualBox
[10:32] <akrus> for NAT
[10:32] <akrus> :)
[10:32] <akrus> SolidSource: hey :)
[10:32] <Lynoure> and you changed your kernel?
[10:32] <akrus> Lynoure: likely
[10:32] <akrus> Lynoure: I don't remember :)
[10:32] <Lynoure> Forgot the NAT modules?
[10:33] <f4ggz0r> hey guys my Adept Mgr seems to be not working right, how do i fix it ?
[10:33] <akrus> SolidSource: could you help with SSHd problems? :3
[10:33] <Jucato> how is it not working right f4ggz0r? please be more specific
[10:33] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: logs live on /var/log, so if you get command line, you can poke around there
[10:34] <f4ggz0r> ahh ok thx Lyn
[10:34] <compilerwriter1> speaking of ssh I could use some help there too.
[10:34] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: but if you got to Adept now, I guess your problem got solved
[10:34] <f4ggz0r> Jucato, well it downloads packages ok i guess, but it gives error after i try to install them
[10:35] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: try installing the same package using "sudo apt-get install"
[10:35] <akrus> !openssh-server feisty
[10:35] <akrus> o_O
[10:35] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB
[10:36] <f4ggz0r> no im not actually back in kubuntu yet, i notice that i do get the initial kubuntu pre-log screen... the word kubuntu with the blue growing line just underneath the word.. then black screen
[10:36] <akrus> !openssh-server edgy
[10:36] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[10:36] <akrus> hmm
[10:36] <Lynoure> akrus: you are on feisty?
[10:36] <akrus> Lynoure: yep
[10:36] <Lynoure> akrus: Why not try on #ubuntu+1 then?
[10:36] <akrus> noone replying here xD
[10:37] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: Did you get your help already?
[10:37] <compilerwriter1> Not really.
[10:37] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: if not, could you repeat what your problem si?
[10:37] <Lynoure> s/si/is
[10:38] <compilerwriter1> I have managed to install ssh, but am behind a router.  I thought I got that all configured, but I still can't seem to putty from a machine that is not on my home network.  I even signed up for a dns forwarding service and have the client for that.
[10:38] <compilerwriter1> I just don't know where things are going afoul.
[10:39] <compilerwriter1> I appears that you are a vi power user Lynoure.
[10:39] <compilerwriter1> s/I/It
[10:39] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: vi power user? What?
[10:40] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: What vi has to do with your problem?
[10:40] <compilerwriter1> vi has nothing to do with my problem.
[10:40] <Magic-Fx> Hey.... Do you guys help with things like BitchX?
[10:40] <compilerwriter1> The substitution string thingy you used reminded me of vi.
[10:40] <Jucato> Lynoure: he's referring to your s/foo/foo1/
[10:41] <Jucato> compilerwriter1: it's a common thing in IRC after a while... whether you use vi or not...
[10:41] <compilerwriter1> That is correct sir Jucato.
[10:41] <Lynoure> Jucato: substitution command does not a power user make
[10:41] <Jucato> Lynoure: tell that to compilerwriter1 :P
[10:42] <compilerwriter1> I learned vi before I met IRC back in the late 80s early nineties.
[10:42] <Lynoure> Jucato: oh well.
[10:42] <compilerwriter1> Anyway, Lynoure, do you feel like helping me troubleshoot this.
[10:43] <compilerwriter1> Does anybody feel like helping me troubleshoot this mess?
[10:44] <soulfree>
[10:44] <compilerwriter1> btw Jucato how does one do the emote things in IRC?
[10:44] <Jucato> compilerwriter1: /me action
[10:44] <soulfree> how can i get libxine-extracodecs?
[10:44] <soulfree> i can't find it...sorry
[10:45] <Jucato> soulfree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[10:45] <compilerwriter1> Lynoure:  Are you up to it?
[10:45] <Erunno> I'm about to buy a new notebook. Does anyone know if dual monitor support work with the recent free/binary ATI drivers ?
[10:45] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: Hard to know beforehand, that :)
[10:45] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: What have you checked so far?
[10:46] <compilerwriter1> I have forgotten what all I have checked.  I think I need to start from the beginning so to speak.
[10:46] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: port forwarding not being on on your router would be my first guess and at least in USA many ISPs block many services
[10:47] <compilerwriter1> I have installed ssh.
[10:47] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: sshd, you mean.
[10:47] <compilerwriter1> I have a DI-524 router I should say.
[10:47] <compilerwriter1> Let me look.
[10:48] <compilerwriter1> Lynoure firing up adept now.
[10:48] <compilerwriter1> That could be my problem
[10:49] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: openssh-server is the one you want
[10:50] <compilerwriter1> ok.  I will see what we have in a minute I hope.
[10:52] <compilerwriter1> I have both openssh-server and openssh-client installed.  I also have ssh installed.
[10:52] <Magic-Fx> i love kubuntu
[10:52] <Magic-Fx> im going to see if me and kubuntu can get married.
[10:52] <f4ggz0r> hey guys how do i get from the desktop to the var directory in the command console ?
[10:53] <compilerwriter1> Lynoure: I have both openssh-server and openssh-client installed.  I also have ssh installed.
[10:54] <Magic-Fx> f4ggz0r: just type /var into the address bar in konquerer
[10:55] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: if you do netstat -la  do you see an entry containing *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[10:56] <f4ggz0r> i cant get into kubuntu gui
[10:56] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: if yes, if they try to ssh in from the local network, does that work?
[10:56] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: cd /var/log
[10:56] <f4ggz0r> ahh ok good thx Lyn, life savor
[10:56] <f4ggz0r> *huggies*
[10:57] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: less Xorg.0.log   (pressing q quits)
[10:57] <Magic-Fx> Lynoure: any idea how to set the default nickname/username/server etc in BitchX?
[10:57] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: might want to do  dmesg  too
[10:58] <Lynoure> Magic-Fx: Sorry, never used BitchX, just ircii and irssi and a pile of graphical ones
[10:58] <marc> list channels
[10:59] <Magic-Fx> Lynoure: Whats the most similar to mIRC client available on kubuntu?
[11:00] <Magic-Fx> I'm using Konversation at the moment, which is good, but i can't add aliases which is dissapointing. Unless anyone here can inform me how to do that.
[11:00] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, it says fonts dir not found
[11:00] <Lynoure> Magic-Fx: I have not used Mirc for... 8 years or so :) xchat is not bad.
[11:01] <f4ggz0r> refcount is 2, should be 1, fixing
[11:01] <f4ggz0r> is the last line
[11:01] <Magic-Fx> hmmm... i downloaded xchat and didn't like it. I used to like BitchX heaps but im a bit rusty now. lol
[11:02] <f4ggz0r> how did i lose my fonts directory ?
[11:04] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: anything with EE on Xorg.0.log?
[11:05] <f4ggz0r> let me look..
[11:06] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, a bunch of 'can not open device...' on EE
[11:07] <cpk1> konversation is cool
[11:08] <solemnwarning> Are there any programs I can use for drawing graphs?
[11:08] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: which kind of devices?
[11:09] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, /dev/wacom no such file or dir
[11:10] <solemnwarning> Anyone?
[11:10] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: sounds like you might want to reconfigure x. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:10] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: ah, wacom should not be trouble.
[11:11] <Jucato> solemnwarning: what kind of graphs? There's KChart. I don't know the equivalent OpenOffice.org app
[11:12] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, hmm wat should i do then i wonder
[11:13] <Lynoure> try the command I gave you. but if you are already root, skip the sudo
[11:13] <f4ggz0r> ahh okie
[11:14] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: it will ask you a pile of questions and also try to figure out on it's own things about your display card, monitor and so on.
[11:16] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, this is wat i typed: reconfigure x. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:16] <f4ggz0r> but i get 'reconfig not found'
[11:16] <f4ggz0r> reconfig command not found
[11:16] <Erunno> f4ggz0r: Type only the sudo part
[11:16] <f4ggz0r> im in root
[11:17] <f4ggz0r> desktop:/root$
[11:17] <f4ggz0r> lyn said dont type sudo if im in root
[11:17] <Magic-Fx> How do i turn off server notices in Konversation?
[11:18] <Erunno> f4ggz0r: Yes, type the rest then (dpkg-reconfigure and so on)
[11:18] <f4ggz0r> ahh ok
[11:18] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: just  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:19] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: assuming you had root.
[11:19] <f4ggz0r> it says 'must be run in root' i thot i was in root
[11:19] <f4ggz0r> desktop:/root$
[11:19] <f4ggz0r> thats where im at
[11:19] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: I try to separate things to type with double space from the rest, but I quess it is not always learn.
[11:20] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: then try it with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:20] <solemnwarning> Holy crap
[11:20] <solemnwarning> I just installed tulip, ran it and clicked new
[11:20] <solemnwarning> It crashed X o_O
[11:20] <f4ggz0r> ok now its says 'xserver-org not installed
[11:20] <f4ggz0r> '
[11:20] <Erunno> O.o
[11:21] <solemnwarning> How can an app take down the X server? :\
[11:21] <f4ggz0r> :(
[11:21] <f4ggz0r> uh oh is that bad
[11:21] <solemnwarning> It just did it again :|
[11:22] <Lynoure> solemnwarning: report a bug.
[11:22] <solemnwarning> Are there any programs for drawing graphs that don't crash the damm X server?
[11:22] <f4ggz0r> yea well my xserver-org looks like its down too
[11:25] <Erunno> solemnwarning: You could give the beta of the next version a try: http://www.tulip-software.org/
[11:25] <solemnwarning> ok
[11:26] <Erunno> Erunno: You'll probably have to compile it yourself though.
[11:27] <solemnwarning> Is there anything like the windows "character map" program?
[11:27] <Jucato> solemnwarning: kcharselect
[11:27] <solemnwarning> ok
[11:33] <Erunno> solemnwarning: I just installed tulip to see whether it will crash my X too. It seems to be working on my machine.
[11:34] <epimeth> anybody home?
[11:34] <pirothezero> some
[11:35] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, do u think i need to reinstall kubuntu or ?
[11:37] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: sorry I missed what happened with your reconfigure
[11:38] <f4ggz0r> now its says 'xserver-org not installed
[11:38] <adydas_> re install it
[11:39] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: try the same with  xserver-xorg-core  , I might have been careless
[11:39] <f4ggz0r> how do i do that? i get blackscreen after the initial kubuntu pre logon screen
[11:39] <f4ggz0r> ok
[11:40] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, i get same thing, xserver-org-core not installed
[11:41] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: that is weird. and you are not on feisty or something
[11:42] <f4ggz0r> 6.10 i think
[11:42] <Jucato> there's not xserver-xorg-core package
[11:42] <Jucato> oh there is
[11:42] <Jucato> heh lol
[11:45] <f4ggz0r> so far in the month that i've played around with kubuntu, i seem to have more bugs etc than its worth
[11:45] <f4ggz0r> too many glitches & hangups etc
[11:46] <f4ggz0r> i really cant get anything much accomplished as a noob on kubuntu
[11:46] <adydas_> its apart of tha fun
[11:46] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: what happens if you do   startx?
[11:47] <guiden> how do I change the resolution in kde?
[11:48] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, omg!! that worked! but then what was my problem ?
[11:48] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, im now on the kubuntu desktop gui
[11:49] <soulfree> can i ask sometin about divx
[11:49] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: I'm not sure. Just wanted to see if you have xserver installed :)
[11:50] <soulfree> i can't see some(divx,avi)files on my caffein
[11:50] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: pastebin your   dmesg   now that you can.
[11:50] <f4ggz0r> ok
[11:53] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, when i try to install a full upgrade in adept it says 'error committing changes' possibly download problem or commit would break packages
[11:53] <f4ggz0r> is that wat u meant by 'pastebin your dmesg' ?
[11:53] <Lynoure> !pastebin | f4ggz0r
[11:53] <ubotu> f4ggz0r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:54] <pirothezero> hellanzb can go to hell
[11:54] <pirothezero> sabnzbd blows it away imo
[11:54] <guiden> so it's impossible to change the resolution?
[11:54] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: The startx thing is not going to be happening automatically. So seeing what happened at boot would help.
[11:55] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, u mean u want me to pastebin the contents of my dmesg.log or ?
[11:56] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: only if you want to. Not going to force you :)
[11:58] <f4ggz0r> its not problem, i just didnt know exactly wat u meant by pasting my dmesg
[11:58] <f4ggz0r> :)
[11:59] <f4ggz0r> i guess i can open my dmesg log within kubuntu gui
[11:59] <f4ggz0r> im really noob
[11:59] <f4ggz0r> sorry
[12:00] <weatherman> hi, does anybody know if (and when) we'll get new artwork in kubuntu feisty?
[12:02] <Jucato> 1. we most probably will get new artwork in feisty. 2) we'll get it when feisty is released
[12:02] <clownius> we seem to get new artwork on every release
[12:03] <Jucato> of course
[12:04] <waylandbill> gotta make it look appealing to new recruits.
[12:04] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, any idea how i can fix my adept ?
[12:05] <f4ggz0r> cant seem to find my /var/log directory in kubuntu gui
[12:05] <f4ggz0r> :(
[12:06] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: just type in the exact location in the location bar
[12:06] <f4ggz0r> all i see is home and media
[12:06] <f4ggz0r> oh ok
[12:07] <f4ggz0r> wow cool
[12:07] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: I missed the bit where you told in what way your adept is broken. But soon I'll have to go do paid work
[12:09] <f4ggz0r> Lyn, ok i just pasted it
[12:09] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: url?
[12:10] <f4ggz0r> pastebin
[12:10] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: is it very very late at night there? :)
[12:11] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: the url of your specific paste, if you want me to look at it.
[12:12] <f4ggz0r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:12] <f4ggz0r> thats the one u told me to paste it on , right ?
[12:12] <f4ggz0r> well according to the bot
[12:13] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: once you click on the Paste button, it should reload the page and give a new URL
[12:13] <Jucato> give that new URL so that we could see what you pasted
[12:13] <f4ggz0r> thats the url
[12:14] <f4ggz0r> that one i used
[12:14] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: yes I know.
[12:14] <f4ggz0r> there is no other url
[12:14] <Jucato> then you pasted the text in that page right?
[12:14] <f4ggz0r> yes
[12:14] <pirothezero> whats the best way to run a command at the startup/init/bootup of the kernel? i need to run ~/.SABnzbd/sabnzbd/SABnzbd.py -d -f SABnzbd.ini everytime I start my computer for the webserver.
[12:14] <Jucato> then you click on the Paste button
[12:14] <f4ggz0r> yes
[12:15] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: then the page reloads and shows what you pasted right?
[12:15] <pirothezero> i rather not make a bash file for it and leave it on my desktop and have to do it myself
[12:16] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: once the page finishes loading, it will have a new URL, like paste.ubuntu-nl.org/####
[12:16] <f4ggz0r> well, no ... the next page says 'paste something' etc and something about 'spamming'
[12:16] <pirothezero> nm, rc.update is my friend :)
[12:16] <f4ggz0r> wats that mean?
[12:16] <f4ggz0r> was i suppose to pick something under the syntax option or ?
[12:17] <f4ggz0r> no idea wat syntax means
[12:17] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: pick "plain text"
[12:18] <Lynoure> compilerwriter1: mostly just an Alien =)
[12:18] <f4ggz0r> ok i just tried 'text only' i get the same spamming response
[12:18] <f4ggz0r> :(
[12:19] <Jucato> O.o
[12:19] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: what are you trying to paste again?
[12:19] <Jucato> compilerwriter1: no. I'm just a humble demi-god
[12:19] <Jucato> (unfortunately...)
[12:20] <f4ggz0r> the contents of my dmesg log file
[12:20] <f4ggz0r> Lyn wanted to see it
[12:20] <Jucato> oh, it must have been too long...
[12:20] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: unless you want to type  startx  every time, it helps to find out why your kdm is not starting on its own...
[12:21] <compilerwriter1> f4ggz0r you may have to cut it into a couple of chunks.
[12:21] <f4ggz0r> ahh so the problem is my log is too big ? ok
[12:21] <compilerwriter1> Could be.
[12:22] <compilerwriter1> Good night all.
[12:23] <compilerwriter1> f4ggz0r You will get it solved with Lyn and Jucato on the case.  Good luck to you.
[12:23] <Lynoure> f4ggz0r: you can also sleep today, do the same  startx  thing next time and look into the long term solution then.  No sense zombieing around unless you have to.
[12:24] <f4ggz0r> how come pastebin doesnt just tell me how much text is TOO much... it still says im spamming it after i paste smaller chunks
[12:24] <Jucato> f4ggz0r: let's trying using a different pastebin
[12:25] <Jucato> http://pastebin.ca/
[12:25] <f4ggz0r> ok
[12:27] <f4ggz0r> ok its on 378252
[12:27] <f4ggz0r> http://pastebin.ca/378252
[12:27] <mindspin> !automatix
[12:27] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:32] <CShadowRun> is there something like a kde task manager?
[12:32] <CShadowRun> wine crashed and it doesn't want to close :(
[12:33] <Jucato> CShadowRun: Ctrl+Esc
[12:33] <CShadowRun> thanks
[12:33] <CShadowRun> wooo, i crashed X
[12:35] <b0rt> hey, simple question, how to change the wallpaper at the back of splash loading screen
[12:35] <b0rt> ?
[12:43] <epimeth> does anyone know if its possible that the network card somehow interferes with the sound card?
[12:44] <wargoth> hi all
[12:48] <clownius> epimeth i working off my Comptia A+ ancient knowledge but an IRQ conflict?
[12:57] <eilker> i cant get kdm, i cant get login screen,
[12:57] <eilker> X is oftenly frozen too
[01:07] <gioacchino> heelo
[01:08] <clownius> yes?
[01:08] <gioacchino> how to execute a daemon on kde start ?
[01:08] <clownius> you want something to start on boot or when you login?
[01:08] <waylandbill> !autostart
[01:08] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:38] <Jucato> !ping
[01:38] <ubotu> pong
[01:40] <wargoth> linux foreva!
[01:40] <wargoth> hi all
[01:44] <wargoth> I've got Kubuntu 6.10 and want to turn my FireFox's web look, like in Konqueror? Any ideas?
[01:46] <wargoth> anybody here?
[01:48] <clownius> wargoth whats the issue?
[01:48] <clownius> turn you web look?
[01:49] <Noshoeman> Hi,everybody.This' the 1st time i use this app,but ,what's this?
[01:49] <b0rt> hey, simple question, how to change the wallpaper at the back of splash loading screen ?
[01:49] <clownius> it an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) program
[01:49] <Noshoeman> well,...thanks:)
[01:49] <clownius> b0rt ill look
[01:50] <b0rt> cant find that blink wallpaper in kcontrol, maybe i just replace it, but need its path
[01:50] <clownius> b0rt if its Kubuntu 6.10 go to Kmenu, System setting, Splash screen
[01:50] <b0rt> its not splash screen, its static image, that appears as wallpaper when loggin' in
[01:51] <wargoth> clownius: yes, turn my web look, I want it like in Konqueror, forms and buttons
[01:51] <clownius> you want to change the desktop wallpaper or splash sceen or am i missing what your after?
[01:52] <b0rt> none of them
[01:52] <clownius> wargoth are you trying to use FF as a file manager?
[01:52] <b0rt> i changed theme, changed splash, but i still get default login screen
 no, just a web browser.
[01:52] <orient2000> background of login?
[01:53] <clownius> wargoth i claim stupidity here i cant work out what you need im dumb
[01:54] <wargoth> kcontrol->system administration->login manager->...
[01:55] <clownius> b0rt id have to reboot to check if it works.  Give me 30 seconds
[01:56] <b0rt> wargoth: let me see
[01:57] <coreymon77> guys
[01:57] <b0rt> wargoth:  there it was !! thanks !!
[01:57] <coreymon77> how do i uninstalll things that were not installed through apt
[01:57] <coreymon77> such as cedega
[01:58] <clownius> ok i see what you mean b0rt it changes loading screen but not the login :(
[01:58] <clownius> my bad
[01:58] <b0rt> clownius: wargoth told me how
 kcontrol->system administration->login manager->...
[01:58] <b0rt> there u can change wallpaper for login
[01:58] <b0rt> =)
[01:59] <clownius> cool i might have a go lol mines et at an odd size lol, the logins at the bottom right, only have the issue with 64bit]
[02:00] <coreymon77> hello?
[02:00] <waylandbill> coreymon77: depends on how it was installed.
 man gpkg
 man dpkg
[02:00] <wargoth> sorry
[02:00] <waylandbill> coreymon77: did you build from source?
[02:00] <coreymon77> no
[02:00] <coreymon77> i thinkcedega was a deb
 man dpkg
[02:01] <waylandbill> coreymon77: dpkg -r
[02:01] <wargoth> :)
[02:01] <coreymon77> and crossover was done through a script
[02:01] <waylandbill> coreymon77: the script one you'll need an uninstall script if they supplied one.
[02:02] <orient2000> !cedega
[02:02] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:02] <clownius> wargoth ill pick your brain if i could how do i change the resolution of my login screen?
[02:04] <clownius> hmm im might have answer my own question let me test
 just xorg.cong.
 just xorg.conf
[02:05] <b0rt> crossover its really nice, it just works clean
[02:05] <b0rt> its kinda funny when it starts "Simulating Windows Reboot"
[02:09] <clownius> nope it still doesnt like my onboard video card
 just xorg.conf
[02:11] <martti> hola
[02:13] <eilker> i have 32 packages to ugrade, how can i do this from console ? sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[02:13] <clownius> should i be looking at the one in /etc/X11 or /usr/share/xresprobe?
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <Jucato> eilker: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:15] <clownius> thanks.....this is sad even after 6 months i can help some but more likely i need help still
[02:15] <wargoth> man apt-get :)_
[02:18] <wargoth> what about a php editor? :) it's my question
[02:19] <wargoth> i saw a plugin for kate at kde.org that completes php special words, but I couldn't download it alone.
[02:20] <wargoth> and didn't find any more info
[02:20] <wargoth> any ideas?
[02:20] <clownius> nope no fix but ill leave it for now
 google for it
[02:20] <clownius> its niggling only happens on 64bit and its my fault for using cheap onboard vid
[02:21] <clownius> my quad will have a decnt nvid card
[02:22] <wargoth> try to google. there lots of answers to this question.
[02:22] <eilker> wargoth:The following packages have been (packages names) .0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded.
 this ok
[02:23] <eilker> but it is not upgraded
[02:23] <eilker> i have still 32packages to upgrade
 and check /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <clownius> can i altavista instead lol i hate google and its almost monopoly lol its close the the M$ of search engines lol
 NO, you should use GOOGLE. :)
[02:24] <clownius> rofl
 i LOVE it :)
[02:24] <wargoth> joke..
[02:25] <eilker> wargoth: it is ok too
[02:26] <wargoth> i've got these 32 packages too.. or maybe much more. you should worry about it.
 also you should try aptitude dist-upgrade
[02:27] <eilker> wargoth: my mouse is freezing, i cant use kubuntu cause of it, i dont know reason
[02:28] <wargoth> what is the PC config?
[02:28] <wargoth> and did you installed all drivers to your box?
[02:29] <eilker> yes i did all, it was ok, but i dont know what happend
[02:31] <wargoth> see logs
[02:33] <CShadowRun> hmm, are 'su' and 'sudo' diffrent things?
[02:33] <CShadowRun> because su says my password is wrong (i obviously know what my password is) but sudo works fine
[02:33] <wargoth> yes, they are
[02:33] <CShadowRun> hmm, is there some kind of default su password then?
[02:33] <wargoth> see man su and man sudo
[02:33] <neutraloss> type su passwd
[02:34] <wargoth> no, ubuntu default - not
 sudo passwd
[02:34] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, su aske's for your root password.
[02:34] <neutraloss> wargoth: are the su and sudo independent?
[02:34] <neutraloss> su passwd words for me as well
[02:34] <eilker> wargoth:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8218/ this is from kdm .log
[02:34] <CShadowRun> nope doesn't work for me
[02:35] <CShadowRun> su passwd returns "Unknown id: passwd"
[02:35] <|lostbyte|> If you set sudo passwd root. Then su will work with the root password.
[02:35] <wargoth> sudo passwd !
[02:35] <neutraloss> wargoth is right, mea culpa
[02:35] <CShadowRun> ok its working now :D
[02:36] <|lostbyte|> and you will notice root@hostname at your prompt.
[02:36] <CShadowRun> yea thats right :D
[02:36] <wargoth> of sudo -i
[02:36] <wargoth> OR
[02:37] <wargoth> and you shoudn't set any password
[02:37] <CShadowRun> o.O
[02:37] <clownius> anyone here had dealings with uck?
[02:37] <wargoth> sorry!?
 i'm looking to
[02:38] <CShadowRun> lol i keep looking over to my windows machine and expecting the windows to wobble
[02:38] <clownius> ubuntu customistation kit?
[02:39] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, Beryl ?
[02:39] <CShadowRun> [|lostbyte|-> yea i use beryl :)
[02:39] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, Did you recently do a upgrade ?
[02:39] <woopwoop> Anyone know how to install the flash plugin (for firefox) on x86_64?
[02:39] <CShadowRun> [|lostbyte|-> well, i only installed linux like 2 days ago (for the first time)
[02:40] <apokryphos> woopwoop: not possible unfortunately
[02:40] <woopwoop> aaaah
[02:40] <woopwoop> that sucks
[02:40] <woopwoop> :'(
[02:40] <apokryphos> (i) because Kubuntu/Debian systems aren't biarch-compatible, and (ii) because 64bit firefox can't read 32bit plugins
 it's something for full users :)
[02:40] <woopwoop> thanks for the info apokryphos
[02:40] <apokryphos> 64-bit konqueror on the other hand can ;-)
[02:40] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, Well, Welcome to Linux :)
[02:41] <apokryphos> (but you need a biarch compatible OS :))
[02:41] <CShadowRun> [|lostbyte|-> thanks :)
[02:41] <clownius> thanks lol..  Did't try 2 though.
 can't I, for example, install 32 bit FF and use 32 bit plugins?
[02:42] <apokryphos> wargoth: don't copy and paste nicks, use <TAB> :)
[02:42] <CShadowRun> yea i use counter strike source, when i start it up it comes up full screen grey :/
[02:42] <apokryphos> wargoth: not on Debian-based systems
[02:42] <CShadowRun> i can see the game for like half a second. but then just grey :(
[02:43] <|lostbyte|> CShadowRun, Try asking at #winehq
[02:43] <CShadowRun> hehe, there all afk :D
[02:43] <|lostbyte|> They solved my worms problem.
[02:43] <wargoth> apokryphos: sorry, I doesn't work)) I don't know why. I use Konversation
[02:43] <user1> hello
[02:43] <apokryphos> wargoth: type apok<tab>
[02:44] <apokryphos> should work fine
[02:45] <wargoth> apokryphos: ok. that's fine)))
[02:45] <wargoth> apokryphos: I'm using it the first time))
[02:46] <|lostbyte|> !changelog
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <apokryphos> wargoth: welcome :)
[02:47] <wargoth> apokryphos: haha
[02:47] <eilker> wargoth: any news :)
[02:47] <wargoth> eilker: sorry!?
[02:48] <wargoth> eilker: oh. ok.
[02:48] <eilker> :)
[02:48] <wargoth> eilker: just wait for a minute
[02:49] <eilker> wargoth: ok thanx
[02:49] <wargoth> eilker: please show /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:50] <wargoth> eilker: kdm log isn't good
[02:50] <|lostbyte|> Where could i view change Logs of Packages being added to the repositories?
[02:50] <vamp898> Hi @ all
[02:51] <wargoth> |lostbyte|: after upgrade?
[02:51] <vamp898> how is it??? http://vampserver.dyndns.org/bilder/dark.jpg
[02:51] <|lostbyte|> wargoth, Yes.
[02:52] <wargoth> |lostbyte|: maybe /var/cache/apt/ helps you
[02:52] <vamp898> does it looks good?
[02:53] <|lostbyte|> wargoth, how about date and time of installation?
[02:54] <wargoth> vamp898: fine)) what is that pan to the rigth? I want it)))
[02:54] <vamp898> wait i look
[02:54] <eilker> wargoth: xorg log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8223/
[02:54] <wargoth> |lostbyte|: somewhere might be an installation log
[02:54] <vamp898> donmon 1.2 (with SuperKaramba)
[02:54] <vamp898> apt-get install superkaramba
[02:54] <wargoth> |lostbyte|: i'm looking for it
[02:54] <vamp898> and then, with super karamba you have do downlo0ad donmon 1.2
[02:54] <wargoth> vamp898: thanx))
[02:55] <|lostbyte|> Oh, thanks..
[02:56] <ubuntu_> hello there
[02:56] <eilker> wargoth: and xorg conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8224/
[02:57] <wargoth> eilker: once more: what kind of problem?
[02:57] <eilker> i cant get login screen
[02:57] <ubuntu_> i like to know where i am able to find kubuntu release 6.06.1 in dvd form
[02:57] <vamp898> wargoth: and? did you found it?
[02:58] <vamp898> on http://kubuntu.org
[02:58] <eilker> wargoth : and oftenly my mouse is freezing
[02:58] <vamp898> http://kubuntu.de there you find the 6.06.1 LTS as DVD
[02:58] <wargoth> vamp898: ok, I'll see later
[02:58] <wargoth> vamp898: thanx
[02:58] <wargoth> eilker: oh, ok
[02:59] <vamp898> i meand ubuntuz_
[02:59] <vamp898> :D
[02:59] <vamp898> ubuntu_: on http://kubuntu.de youll find 6.06.1 LTS as DVD
[02:59] <ubuntu_> laughing......no that isn't it. i find it but there is no way to download it
[02:59] <wargoth> eilker: and sudo dmseg please
[02:59] <ubuntu_> if i start the download it breaks after 5 kb
[03:00] <ubuntu_> i got an iso contains of 5 kb
[03:00] <wargoth> vamp898: :)
[03:01] <AMSmith42> How do I launch WINE?
[03:01] <AMSmith42> Nevermind.
[03:01] <Bordy240> AMSmith42: Can always find the file you want to run through WINE, right click it and go from there
[03:01] <AMSmith42> I don't have an icon.
[03:01] <Bordy240> An icon for what?
[03:01] <AMSmith42> I found that I can just run it from the command line.
[03:02] <Bordy240> yeah
[03:02] <AMSmith42> Oh, right.
[03:02] <ubuntu_> hi @<AMSmith42>
[03:02] <AMSmith42> I see what you are saying now.
[03:02] <AMSmith42> Hello, ubuntu_
[03:02] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42>  wine is a virtual machine, isn't it??
[03:03] <eilker> wargoth : it is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8226/
[03:03] <AMSmith42> No, an emulator.
[03:03] <Bordy240> Anyone ever used Cedega instead of WINE? I wanna try it out
[03:03] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42>  that is what i am meaning
[03:03] <AMSmith42> A VM runs the OS, WINE pretends to be the OS.
[03:04] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> what system do you like to emulate??
[03:04] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> ok
[03:04] <AMSmith42> I like to emulate C64.
[03:05] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> do you have testet vmware??
[03:05] <AMSmith42> No.
[03:05] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> stop
[03:05] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> that was too fast
[03:05] <eilker> wargoth : i did sth, let me reboot pls
[03:05] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> c64??
[03:06] <wargoth_> eilker: ok
[03:06] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> is that your question??
[03:06] <AMSmith42> Oh, damn. Is ubuntu a bot?
[03:07] <Bordy240> Don't think so, I think thats a standard name given by like konversation if you don't provide one
[03:07] <vamp898> wargoth_: why you are green with an underline?
[03:07] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> i thougt you like to emulate linux, windows, mac os....or sth. like that.
[03:07] <Bordy240> I think WINE is a windows emulator, isn't it?
[03:07] <wargoth_> vamp898: don't know)))
[03:07] <Hrontore> okay when i hit save on blue fish the program closes
[03:07] <vamp898> lol :D
[03:07] <AMSmith42> No. I like Commodore 64 games.
[03:08] <Bordy240> Wow, haven't heard that since I was a kid
[03:08] <vamp898> wargoth_: do you have ICQ or any other IM?
[03:08] <vamp898> i like old dos games :D
[03:08] <vamp898> does anyone know Raptor - Call of the Shadows?
[03:08] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> that cought be difficult
[03:08] <wargoth_> vamp898: Konversation
[03:08] <AMSmith42> Is WINE the only Windows emulator on Linux?
[03:08] <Bordy240> theres also Cedega
[03:08] <vamp898> no
[03:08] <vamp898> Cedega
[03:09] <vamp898> WineX
[03:09] <vamp898> Crossover
[03:09] <vamp898> but WinE is as i know, the only one free
[03:09] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> i do not know much about c64......but.....i think there is no os, or?
[03:09] <vamp898> http://transgaming.com there youll find Cedega, this is the best for games
[03:10] <vamp898> !cedega
[03:10] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:10] <AMSmith42> Yes, there is an OS for C64.
[03:10] <Bordy240> I really want to pay for Cedega so I can run stupid WoW
[03:10] <vamp898> on http://aep-emu.de youll find many emus for C64
[03:10] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> how is it called??
[03:10] <vamp898> Bordy240: Do you have any IM
[03:11] <AMSmith42> Commodore 64 DOS
[03:11] <Bordy240> Yeah I do, same name on AIM
[03:11] <Bordy240> hooray rhyming!
[03:11] <AMSmith42> lol Bordy240
[03:11] <vamp898> Bordy240: Vamp898VL add me with this in AIM
[03:11] <Hrontore> blue fish closes when i hit save why?
[03:12] <wargoth_> [away]
[03:12] <vamp898> Bordy240: no, im no registered
[03:12] <ubuntu_> @<AMSmith42> do you have to install the dos??
[03:12] <Bordy240> well shoot, register your name!
[03:12] <vamp898> how?
[03:12] <vamp898> wiat
[03:12] <vamp898> wait
[03:12] <Vamp898> ^^
[03:12] <dr_willis> - /msg nickserv help
[03:12] <Bordy240> do a /msg nickserv register
[03:12] <Bordy240> woot
[03:13] <Vamp898> my nick iss already registered -.-
[03:13] <Bordy240> And you're sure you didn't do it?
[03:13] <Vamp898> im the only one Vamp898, but i registered many times bevore and forget my pw
[03:14] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> :)
[03:15] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> do you have found another location where kubuntu_V6.06.1LTS_DVD is to load??
[03:15] <Vamp898> hmm
[03:15] <Vamp898> www.sex.de :D
[03:15] <Vamp898> maybe you find a iso here
[03:16] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> i can not believe that. *gg*
[03:16] <Vamp898> i know :D
[03:16] <Vamp898> why you want a DVD?
[03:16] <Vamp898> wait i search for you seriously
[03:16] <wargoth_> Bordy240: you can get Cedega's source free
[03:17] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> cause the lib of a dvd
[03:17] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> and the including packs
[03:18] <Vamp898> hmmm
[03:18] <Vamp898> why you dont want 6.10 Edgy?
[03:18] <eilker> wargoth: any new news :)
[03:18] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> i just want a stable version
[03:19] <Vamp898> 6.10 is stable --.--
[03:19] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> edgy is just beta
[03:19] <wargoth_> |lostbyte|: found: /var/log/dpkg.log
[03:19] <wargoth_> eilker: and sudo dmseg please
[03:19] <ubuntu_> @<Vamp898> ^^ok, thats right.
[03:19] <wargoth_> ubuntu_: is it?!
[03:19] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: no it isnt
[03:19] <olsta> hi
[03:19] <Vamp898> here
[03:20] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: edgy is not a beta
[03:20] <Vamp898> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.iso
[03:20] <Vamp898> 6.06.1 LTS only for you
[03:20] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: dapper is just the lts release
[03:20] <olsta> i install kubuntu 6.06 but the sources.list doesent work
[03:20] <coreymon77> ubuntu_: edgy is no beta though
[03:20] <ubuntu_> i know....
[03:20] <olsta> can somebody help?
[03:20] <eilker> i did it above ...pls look at above, and i dont have the link at the moment
[03:20] <Vamp898> and here is 6.10 Edgy as DVD
[03:20] <ubuntu_> ok. i try it
[03:20] <Vamp898> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso
[03:21] <eilker> wargoth: i did it above ...pls look at above, and i dont have the link at the moment
[03:21] <Vamp898> ubuntu_: how to say?
[03:21] <Vamp898> *whart
[03:21] <Vamp898> *what
[03:21] <wargoth_> eilker: I've been reconnected.
[03:21] <coreymon77> !ask
[03:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:21] <eilker> wargoth: ok let me do it again
[03:21] <olsta> my sources.list doesent work under kubunu 6.06 where can i get a sources.list with its work?
[03:21] <Hrontore> why does blue fish close out on me with no errrors when i save my work?
[03:22] <Hrontore> and how can i fix it
[03:22] <olsta> my sources.list doesent work under kubunu 6.06 where can i get a sources.list with its work?
[03:23] <wargoth>  /msg NickServ set email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:23] <olsta> can someone help m?
[03:24] <eilker> wargoth: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8232/
[03:24] <olsta> hello?
[03:24] <wargoth> olsta: you should read official manual
[03:25] <olsta> where
[03:25] <olsta> iam new in kubuntu and its my first time
[03:25] <wargoth> olsta: you can find it there
[03:25] <wargoth> olsta: ubuntu.org
[03:25] <wargoth> olsta: wiki.ubuntu.org ...
[03:26] <yaccin> !sources.list
[03:26] <olsta> hmm and if you tell me a link to the actual sources.list for 6.06, its a problem?
[03:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:26] <||arifaX> hi, I have a problem all version later <IP_ADDRESS> of firefox will only start up once after installation or if I choose safe-mode. any ideas?? I always re-install <IP_ADDRESS> from apt-cache but I want the latest version because of the security patches. any idea where I could start an investigation?
[03:28] <jean-benoit> hello
[03:28] <wargoth> eilker: %)
[03:30] <wargoth> eilker: what have you done when it becomes buggy?
[03:31] <eilker> wargoth: i just ugraded from 6.06 to 6.10
[03:31] <jef_> Hi
[03:31] <olsta> can you please give a actuall sources.list?
[03:32] <olsta> the default sources.list after install 6.06 doesent work
[03:32] <wargoth> eilker: I think you have problem with xorg.conf .
[03:32] <eilker> wargoth: what do i need to change ?
[03:32] <wargoth> look for a backup in /etc/Xorg/ dir
[03:33] <AMSmith42> Can I run Windows Defender in WINE?
[03:33] <AMSmith42> lol Just kidding.
[03:33] <wargoth> eilker: look for a backup in /etc/Xorg/ dir
[03:33] <eilker> ok
[03:34] <ubuntu_> ok
[03:34] <ubuntu_> it starts working, thanks for that.
[03:35] <ubuntu_> .....but can you answer me why it didn't start under ubuntu.org???
[03:36] <olsta> where can i get sysnaptic the package manager fpr kubuntu?
[03:37] <wargoth> olsta: sudo apt-get install synaptic. :)
 sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:37] <wargoth> :)
[03:37] <MarkCh> :)
[03:37] <soulfree> i have question
[03:37] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get install synaptic" if you still didn't see
[03:37] <olsta> well and there is my probelem it doesent work
[03:37] <ubuntu_> i tried it many times before.
[03:37] <wargoth> olsta: but you havn't source list)))
[03:37] <ubuntu_> ..
[03:37] <olsta> sure there is a source list but it will not work
[03:37] <fabio> i suggest to use aptitude
[03:37] <soulfree> how can i play divx files on my kaffein
[03:37] <fabio> i more confortable
 what do you mean does not work?
[03:38] <wargoth> olsta: see /etc/apt/source.list . and uncomment everything
 if it doesnt work then adept and apt-get wont work too...
[03:38] <Jucato> soulfree: didn't I already give you the wiki page for installing libxine-extracodecs hours ago?
[03:38] <wargoth> olsta: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:38] <fabio> there is a client for jabber in kde?
[03:38] <fabio> that work with file transfer
[03:39] <wargoth> fabio: kopete
[03:39] <soulfree> jucato : ofcourse, you did give me the answer
[03:39] <olsta> wargoth: i know but it doesent work with the server they are there
[03:39] <soulfree> but...
[03:39] <fabio> kopete dont work with file transfer
[03:39] <Jucato> soulfree: but?
[03:39] <soulfree> actualy..
[03:39] <olsta> http://rafb.net/p/uWI0YB52.html
[03:39] <soulfree> i have no experience about kubuntu...
[03:40] <olsta> this is the output from apt-get upddate
[03:40] <Jucato> soulfree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 if you lost it
[03:40] <wargoth> olsta: internet connecton issues?
[03:40] <olsta> iam here with the computer ;)
[03:40] <Jucato> soulfree: please ask something specific if you're having trouble. :)
[03:40] <soulfree> please...give me kind answer...
[03:40] <soulfree> thanks...
[03:41] <soulfree> how can i get the lib about xine?
[03:41] <wargoth> to all: http://wiki.kubuntu.org !!!
[03:41] <soulfree> i have no list about it
[03:41] <MarkCh> hmmm... it seems most kde users speak english as a second language...
[03:41] <soulfree> on my adept manager...
[03:41] <soulfree> am i add some source list?
[03:42] <olsta> wargoth: i install kubuntu the internet work without problem and the sources.list had a fault?
[03:42] <wargoth> MarkCh: or the third one... :)
[03:42] <olsta> wargoth: and the user must read a lots of documentation that he find a work sources.list?
[03:42] <ubuntu_> ok, thank you.....see you.
 mp3 playback? just type: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[03:42] <wargoth> maybe I can speak russian with smth)))) feel free to ask
[03:43] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody having problems with radeon + latest ati drivers + current kernel on edgy? seems like they just arent working...
[03:43] <soulfree> thanks... but... it's not the problem about mp3...about divx(avi)
[03:44] <rysiek|pl> soulfree: just install the package :)
[03:44] <Jucato> soulfree: the package that lets you play mp3 also lets you play avi/divx
[03:45] <soulfree> what is the name of it? and how can i get the package? adept manager?
[03:45] <wargoth> olsta: what it tells you when you're trying to install some package?
[03:46] <olsta> example synaptic?
[03:46] <wargoth> no, apt-get
[03:47] <olsta> no to get synaptic with apt-get, but the package doesent exist
[03:47] <wargoth> olsta: first, you should check sources.list
[03:47] <olsta> k
[03:47] <wargoth> olsta: second, you should type sudo apt-get update
[03:48] <wargoth> olsta: it must work
[03:48] <olsta> my sources.list
[03:49] <wargoth> olsta: MUST if haven't any inet connection issues
[03:49] <olsta> http://rafb.net/p/6djgBo65.html
[03:49] <olsta> i can serve in the internet i can chat about irc ...... but
[03:49] <wargoth> olsta: where are from?
[03:49] <olsta> germany
[03:50] <wargoth> ok. source.lost is ok
[03:50] <olsta> k
[03:50] <Bordy240> so just sudo apt-get install synaptic won't work?
[03:50] <wargoth> olsta: second...
[03:50] <wargoth> olsta: sudo apt-get update
[03:50] <wargoth> in konsole
[03:50] <wargoth> olsta: is it clear?
[03:50] <Bordy240> man I am so glad I installed Yakuake
[03:51] <Bordy240> i hate the konsole. lol.
[03:51] <Jucato> ironic... since yakuake uses konsole... :)
[03:51] <olsta> http://rafb.net/p/bSrLOF33.html
[03:51] <wargoth> Bordy240: what's this? I like ctrl+alt+f1 (f1-f6) :)))
[03:51] <olsta> no
[03:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:52] <wargoth> Bordy240: nicht holen - please translate
[03:52] <olsta> he cant fetch
[03:53] <wargoth> Bordy240: sorry
[03:53] <wargoth> olsta: ok
[03:53] <wargoth> olsta: )))
[03:53] <olsta> you know the problem?
[03:53] <wargoth> olsta: ok, I can send you my source list if you want.
[03:53] <eMaX> hi
[03:53] <wargoth> olsta: where can I do this?
[03:53] <olsta> K
[03:54] <eMaX> how do I find out the version of x.org I'm using
[03:54] <eMaX> ?
[03:54] <wargoth> olsta: e-mail?
[03:54] <Bordy240> Wargoth: its a konsole front-end , slides out of the top of the screen (or wherever you put it), you just hit f12
[03:55] <olsta> in the qry
[03:55] <wargoth> olsta: ok, i've it
[03:55] <wargoth> olsta: ok, i've sent it