[06:41] <unop> MasterShrek, that is _ONE_ command
[06:41] <kaboombob> im happy
[06:42] <MasterShrek> unop, im aware of that, but he has no idea what he just did
[06:42] <MasterShrek> now hell have to come back here when he wants to mount something else
[06:42] <MasterShrek> instead of explaining it once and having him know how to do it
[06:42] <kaboombob> mastershrek whould you mind telling me what i just did?
[06:42] <pkundu> I just need a solution where in i can transfer a image to pendrive and boot from it to install from that to my laptop hdd
[06:43] <Andrew250> Hello all.  I have just installed Gutsy and it keeps freezing.  I'm new to Linux.  Can someone help me?
[06:43] <badkitty> Teach a man how to fish instead of give him a fish..
[06:43] <pkundu> unop u may be right
[06:43] <Flannel> pkundu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  has instructins on all sorts of installation solutions
[06:43] <misslecommander>                                    i get a freeze on Gutsy once in a while, most of the time its when i hit Enter key, instead of clicking OK buttons
[06:44] <pkundu> thnx Flannel
[06:44] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, well, forget about he sudo sh -c for now, and pay attention to the stuff inside the quote, they are two commands seperated by a semicolon. the first one make a mount point, that is a place where you will mount your hard drive, or flash driver or whatever it is. the second one is the actual mount command, if you type mount --help it will show you how to use the command
[06:44] <GothicProphet> Oh goody... I'm gonna be installing w/o a mouse... LOL
[06:44] <misslecommander> i still need to update the vidcard somehow
[06:44] <unop> pkundu, the easiest way might be to use syslinux and a drop-in kernel image .. check out the DSL website, it's got a few good howtos
[06:44] <Andrew250> I can't even do the updates
[06:44] <Andrew250> It boot and then freezes in under 3 mins
[06:44] <misslecommander> biggest issue on getting anything to work was getting on the internet with it first, alot of other problems go away after you do that
[06:45] <misslecommander> andrew you on the linix box now ?
[06:45] <Andrew250> Internet is connected right from the install
[06:45] <badkitty> GothicProphet: LOL
[06:45] <Andrew250> no
[06:45] <GothicProphet> It disappeared on me...
[06:45] <badkitty> GothicProphet: goody goody gumdrops!
[06:45] <GothicProphet> So now I can't get past the "select time zone"
[06:45] <GothicProphet> LOL
[06:45] <misslecommander> i am noob, so just voicing what i had to do. i have freeze issues as well. sometimes i can force close app, but other times i cant
[06:45] <kaboombob> mastershrek i kind of got that much of it and i did know it was 2 commands how do i know which one is my next thing to mount tho cause it wont be /dev/sdb if im not mistaken
[06:46] <badkitty> GothicProphet: HAHA.. you sure tab doesn't work
[06:46] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, the sudo part is so that you have administrator privlidges to make that directory and to mount the drive (sudo is a very big thing in linux because it provides a good layer of security for your system) the sh basically tells the command line that it will be receiving a shell script (sh stands for shell i believe) and the stuff in the quotes is the actual command, with the semicolon and the quotes it appears as one c
[06:46] <MasterShrek> ommand in a sense
[06:46] <misslecommander> what a pain it was to get wireless hooked in, it was like slow death, bad
[06:46] <pkundu> Flannel, gave me wat i am looking for thnx man
[06:46] <GothicProphet> Quite... Tried it... it was sitting there on the New York option after every attempt...
[06:46] <kaboombob> mastershrek k i knew that to
[06:46] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, well that all depends on your setup
[06:46] <jay-oh-en> what os by ubuntu should i get if i have these system specs
[06:46] <jay-oh-en> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643000+ at 1000 MHz (2102 bogomips), , RAM: 998/1011MB, 124 proc's, 3.3h up
[06:47] <MasterShrek> sdb2 maybe, or possibly sdc1
[06:47] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: you can run any of the ubuntus.
[06:47] <kaboombob> mastershrek i dont know the syntax to well yet but im getting there slowly so just look for a change next time is the only way to know what the mount point is
[06:47] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: what will be the best looking or fastest
[06:48] <kaboombob> mastershrek also how can i tell what the filesystm type is?
[06:48] <misslecommander> yes, the sytax is somewhat like learning dos all over again, or atleast it reminds me of that
[06:48] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: im on ubuntu live cd but i have a bunch of cds so i can install xubuntu
[06:48] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, if you were to type: sudo fdisk -l     in a command line it should tell you what u need to know
[06:48] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: or whatever os
[06:48] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: xubuntu would run the fastest, and looks is a matter of taste. I think kde and xfce are tasteless myself :)
[06:48] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, it lists all the partitions that are present as well as their filesystems
[06:48] <kaboombob> mastershrek cool i kind of knew that one to
[06:48] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: want to see my current setup of kde and say its tasteless?
[06:49] <unop> kaboombob, usually you dont have to mess with mount on the command line, your device should automatically mount
[06:49] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: I'm sure it's gaudy, I like a nice bland desktop, nothing to get in the way of work
[06:49] <Trebel> nickrud: i'm with you on that one
[06:49] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, then all you have to do is make a new mount point for it, and then mount it. most of the time you wont even need the -t in the mound command. but i never put the two commands together myself...its always sudo mkdir /mount/point      then    sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /mount/point
[06:49] <kaboombob> unop i know but both of my usb things i have connected have had some major issues
[06:49] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s272/pronege/mydekstop2.png
[06:50] <unop> kaboombob, in this case, it probably failed to mount because of the invalid parition table on the device which is why we had to resort to the command line
[06:50] <MasterShrek> unop, if it had an invalid partion table it would mount anyway afaik
[06:50] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: oh, my eyes!!! all the K' and gears , the horror ...
[06:51] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: but im tired of it looking so pretty im ready for functionallity cause that doesnt have any of it i have alot of problems
[06:51] <mypapit> woof
[06:51] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: stop playing around haha
[06:51] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: what you think of my desktop since your a kde user
[06:51] <unop> MasterShrek, well, it seems hald didnt auto-mount it .. but mount did mount it
[06:51] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, would yo happen to know if your user is a member of the plugdev group? i dont know if u need to be in ubuntu (as i dont really use it much) but in slack you do
[06:51] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: you can pimp gnome and xfce also.
[06:51] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, how u konw i was a kde user? lol
[06:51] <kaboombob> yeah thats what you were saying and i saw that in there thank you for the help i can now listen to something other than sandstorm again
[06:51] <MasterShrek> KDE FTW! lolz
[06:52] <MasterShrek> pretty sweet lookin jay-oh-en
[06:52] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: cause i can see through your screen
[06:52] <kaboombob> mastershrek plugdev group ?
[06:52] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, using gnome i assume?
[06:52] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: jk i talked to you a long time ago but i dont want to say my name
[06:52] <kaboombob> unop yeah thats what you were saying and i saw that in there thank you for the help i can now listen to something other than sandstorm again
[06:52] <kaboombob> mastershrek yes i am
[06:52] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, why not?
[06:53] <unop> kaboombob, yw
[06:53] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, ok, system > admin > users    (i think lol i dont use gnome either)
[06:53] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: cause it was banned way back when
[06:53] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: and im ready not to get banned anymore and i dont want to bring up any skelitons in my colset
[06:54] <MasterShrek> lol
[06:54] <nemanja_> LOL
[06:54] <nemanja_> ima li srba ovde?
[06:54] <kaboombob> mastershrek k what about it?
[06:54] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, im not sure what it looks like lol, is there a groups tab?
[06:54] <nemanja_> Where is grub loader?
[06:54] <kaboombob> yeah i clicked it now what?
[06:55] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: what has the most support for hardware
[06:55] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: and printers
[06:55] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, is there a group called plugdev?
[06:55] <Andrew250> no
[06:55] <Andrew250> Hello all.  I have just installed Gutsy and it keeps freezing.  I'm new to Linux.  Can someone help me?
[06:55] <bod_> hey ,.,. can anyone recommned any cool programs for ubuntu??
[06:55] <kaboombob> mastershrek powerdev and netdev but no plugdev
[06:55] <MasterShrek> Andrew250, fresh install?
[06:56] <Andrew250> it is
[06:56] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: i have kde installed i just cant get my printer to work i have a mp730 and
[06:56] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, hmm is there a hald group maybe?
[06:56] <jay-oh-en> remove and
[06:56] <albatross> _bod: try build essential then you can make your own
[06:56] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: I wouldn't be the right person to ask, I've been running gnome since I started. Sampled many, but never stuck with them long enough to become familiar
[06:56] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, i dont know much about printers, u install cups?
[06:56] <nemanja_> kde is very bad!
[06:56] <Andrew250> MasterShrek: I've done it like 7 times in the last 2 days
[06:56] <GothicProphet> I like my gnome
[06:56] <GothicProphet> heh
[06:56] <MasterShrek> nemanja_, lies! but this isnt the channel for that discussion
[06:56] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: yes i installed everything
[06:56] <GothicProphet> It's a shame that comp is in pieces right now.
[06:56] <bod_> albtross: wot build my own programs?? i have to go to school in an hour!
[06:56] <kaboombob> mastershrek haldaemon
[06:57] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: but the driver they recomend for my printer prints really small
[06:57] <albatross> bod_ an hour? that's a long ass time you can do a lot of programming
[06:57] <nemanja_> ubuntu - gnome
[06:57] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, try adding your user to that group, logging out and back in and then plug ur flash drive in
[06:57] <albatross> i mean, most of it will be spent finding it doesnt compile but it's fun
[06:57] <bod_> albatross: not when ur not a programmer,.,. all i can do is write  script to start amarok on log-in
[06:57] <nemanja_> Ima li srba ovde??
[06:57] <kaboombob> mastershrek ok why am i doing that tho?
[06:58] <albatross> bod_: seriously though i'd suggest wireshark i find snooping my house network fascinating
[06:58] <jay-oh-en> who here has tested all of the ubuntus xfce kde gdk just tell me what was the best
[06:58] <GothicProphet> Wireshark is fun.
[06:58] <bod_> albatross: wot does it do?
[06:58] <GothicProphet> bod_: it's a packet sniffer.
[06:58] <albatross> its designed for network analysis, it caputures packets, basically you can see who's looking at what over a network
[06:58] <jay-oh-en> not just best as in best i mean in all around there can be a little problems i can fix themm but what was the fastest and had the lease problems with hardware
[06:58] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, i have a feeling your user does not have hald (which is your hardware abstraction layer daemon, hence hald) permissions. thats what my problem in slackware was and after i added my user to the plugdev group, automounting worked
[06:58] <bod_> albatross: im the only linux machine in the house
[06:59] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: can you make slackware look nice? do you still run it?
[06:59] <GothicProphet> bod_: Is yours the only system in the house at all?
[06:59] <albatross> bod_: it works on a more fundamental level than that, you basically pick up all traffic (if you're on a wireless of hub based network) and you can sift through it
[06:59] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, kde 3.5.8
[06:59] <bod_> GothicProphet: no
[06:59] <bod_> albatross: cool!!!!
[07:00] <albatross> if the general discussion is about window managers, which it seems to be: i'd suggest ion
[07:00] <badkitty> jay-oh-en: Doesn't backtrack run off of slackware ... I thought it looked alright
[07:00] <GothicProphet> bod_: Then you can see all the packets, like albatross said, from a wireless network and sort through'em.
[07:00] <extracted> Ettercap allows for sniffing of packets across switched networks !
[07:00] <albatross> yeah arp spoofing isnt so hard
[07:00] <bod_> GothicProphet: gettin it now ,.,. cool!!!! any others?
[07:00] <marx2k> Whats the SSH command to upload files via SSH?
[07:00] <marx2k> cget/cput?
[07:01] <extracted> check out knoppix STD  if you are in to network security
[07:01] <badkitty> extracted: What about backtrack2?
[07:01] <GothicProphet> There!  Finally got my mouse back.
[07:01] <GothicProphet> LOL
[07:01] <bod_> albatross: wots that?
[07:01] <extracted> I took it to work to just test what could be done with that installation its amazing
[07:01] <jay-oh-en> badkitty: yeah i searched on google its ight
[07:01] <extracted> badkitty, cant say I know any thing about that.
[07:01] <jay-oh-en> i think im going to go with xfce
[07:01] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: I got an account just to show you a simple desktop :) http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii255/pinute/Screenshot.png
[07:02] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: kool thanks for doing that for me
[07:02] <badkitty> extracted: Its a Pen testing distro besed on I believe slackware... comes as a live cd :-)
[07:02] <extracted> if its like another live cd ver of linux, I know there is one thats based on Fedora thats out as well
[07:02] <unop> marx2k, if it's strictly ssh -- cat /path/to/localfile | ssh user@host 'cat -> /path/to/remotefile'
[07:02] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: what distro is that
[07:02] <unop> marx2k, but you're better off using something like scp
[07:02] <bod_> GothicProphet: shouls i run wireshark or wireshark (as root)
[07:02] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: ubuntu
[07:02] <extracted> badkitty I like knoppix std because it allows you to craft your own packets
[07:03] <marx2k> ah scp, thats it thnks
[07:03] <GothicProphet> badkitty: now that this is back up and running correctly... I should select the 'guided - resize' option yeah?
[07:03] <jay-oh-en> nickrud: not xfce?
[07:03] <GothicProphet> bod_: wireshark (as root) is the one I run.
[07:03] <bod_> kk
[07:03] <bod_> cheers
[07:03] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: nope. I cut all the frills
[07:03] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, nothing matters about the distro, ubuntu can be made to look like fedora or suse or anything
[07:03] <jordoex> AAARG! why does it say everywhere that your network name should be wlan0 for ndiswrapper when ubuntu sets it up fine to use eth1?
[07:03] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, and vice-versa
[07:03] <bod_> GothicProphet: can u give me a quick tutorial plz
[07:03] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: i know that but i was just asking
[07:03] <badkitty> GothicProphet: PM me
[07:03] <GothicProphet> MasterShrek/joy-oh-en: I've seen an ubuntu desktop look like Vista... (why I don't know!)
[07:04] <MasterShrek> eww
[07:04] <GothicProphet> badkitty: I did... did you not receive it?
[07:04] <MasterShrek> i gave vista 2 weeks, ill never install it again
[07:04] <bod_> Why would u get linux to look like windows ,.,. thats just counterproductive!!!
[07:04] <badkitty> extracted: hmm I still haven't messed too much with any of that, but it sounds cool!
[07:04] <GothicProphet> MasterShrek: I couldn't agree more.  LOL... I want Ubuntu on this machine to get away from the ugliness of MS products.   PLus i think the install was BIG
[07:08] <MasterShrek> i havent been around much lately actually
[07:08] <MasterShrek> tongiht is the first night ive been really active in a couple weeks
[07:08] <MasterShrek> im usually idling though lol
[07:08] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: why dont you help peoplein kde?
[07:09] <jay-oh-en> i mmean #kubuntu
[07:09] <GothicProphet> Bloody 'ell.
[07:09] <sexcopter> my ubuntu's not finding a locally connected printer, and when i go to System -> Administration -> Printing, it comes up with "Not Connected" (to the CUPS server, I assume). Goto Server results in a hang... any thoughts?
[07:09] <Xinef> Caffiene is a cruel mistress
[07:09] <parthan> do we require different media plugins for 32bit and 64bit machines?
[07:09] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: oic your in slackware
[07:09] <GothicProphet> It didn't auto-send the identify like it was supposed to...
[07:09] <MasterShrek> i dont know lol, seems like theres more noobs in here, if someone makes a decision to use kubuntu, they probably have some kind of an idea of what they are doing, i like to help the people who are clueless...maybe it makes me feel smart or somethign lmao
[07:10] <parthan> wondering how to answer bug #183699 ;)
[07:10] <n2diy> sexcopter: try restarting cups.
[07:10] <jay-oh-en> thats what im talking about
[07:10] <Crazymethjesus> shut mouth
[07:10] <unop> parthan, yes and those plugins would be codecs
[07:10] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, yea i idle there too, not much talking, i do most of my irc in this room, occasionally ill bs with the guys in #slackware
[07:10] <sexcopter> n2diy: what command do i issue to do that?
[07:10] <Crazymethjesus> shut mouth or i punch
[07:10] <nickrud> MasterShrek: you are skilled (I'll leave the smart to you)
[07:10] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: how longer are you gonig to be on
[07:10] <MasterShrek> lol @ nickrud
[07:10] <MasterShrek> well im prolly gonna go to bed soon, i got class in the morning
[07:11] <MasterShrek> why u need help with something jay-oh-en?
[07:11] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: do you show off your computers to people at school
[07:11] <n2diy> /etc/services/ cups restart, or something like that.
[07:11] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: nah but ill bug you tomorrow if i have a problem but ive come along way since you knew me i know alot more then i did
[07:11] <MasterShrek> not really, if they notice and say something ill show it off i guess, but then they probably know what they are talking about if they notice that im not running windows
[07:12] <bod_> GothicProphet: cool ,.,. that wireshark is nifty chers dude
[07:12] <nickrud> sexcopter: sudo invoke-rc.d cups restart (or start if restart fails)
[07:12] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: just think 6 months ago i didnt know what linux was haha
[07:12] <GothicProphet> bod_: Isn't it?  When I actually get around to playing with it more, I'll share my insights with you.  :)
[07:12] <Gekkomon_Shogun> is their anyway to have different backgrounds for each window on the cube
[07:12] <bod_> does anyone know of any other interesting bits of software that i can play with?
[07:12] <bod_> GothicProphit: cheers dude
[07:12] <nickrud> bod_: inkscape
[07:12] <MasterShrek> lol, yea jay-oh-en ive been using it for about 4 years, and i feel like ive barely scratched the surface haha
[07:13] <jay-oh-en> bod_: like web developement??
[07:13] <MasterShrek> bod_, compiz fusion
[07:13] <bod_> Gekkomon_Shogun: yes but seriously dont go there,.,. not untill its official ,.,. i tried doing that to mine ,.,. 1 1/2 weeks later im not reall that much closer
[07:13] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: dang 4 years isnt that long and you know alot more then i do
[07:13] <n2diy> bod_:  what do you mean by playwith?
[07:13] <bod_> nickrud: wots inkscape?
[07:13] <Billster> hello could someone help me get my audio back it was working but it's not working any more
[07:13] <GothicProphet> MasterShrek: Compiz is nice.  Another toy I haven't played with nearly enough yet.
[07:13] <nickrud> bod_: yeah, compiz, see how subtle you can make the effects.
[07:14] <OshaMaHUe> i am new to ubuntu &linux i just installed ubuntu 7.10 but i couldnt connect to internet. i googled and i found that broadcom wireless adaptors have some issues with linux. do anybody know is there a guide to solve the problem. i have vista 64 in my machine too
[07:14] <bod_> jay-oh-en: id like to learn ,,. yer
[07:14] <nickrud> bod_: it's a vector drawing program
[07:14] <bod_> MasterShrek: got it
[07:14] <MasterShrek> i dont use compiz, its fun to play with, but i feel a total waste of your computer's precision resources
[07:14] <bod_> nickrud: no thanks i dont do graphics ,.,.lol,.,.
[07:14] <Gekkomon_Shogun> bod_ what exactly do u mean
[07:14] <MasterShrek> precisious*
[07:14] <MasterShrek> pre...ah screw it i cant spell
[07:14] <kaboombob> mastershrek now i have rebooted and what not but it says there is not enough room to place new files on it i just deleted the other songs i had on it but there is not enough room
[07:14] <jay-oh-en> bod_: i forget the program but if you want we could make a website together since your bored
[07:14] <kaboombob> mastershrek any ideas?
[07:14] <bod_> Gekkomon_Shogun: do u mean about the backgrounds?
[07:14] <sexcopter> n2diy. nickrud: seems to have worked, thanks!
[07:14] <nickrud> bod_: this is different, it's awsome and you don't have to know how to draw, just how to make shapes
[07:15] <jay-oh-en> bod_: im pretty decent at websites and i could teach htm/CSS
[07:15] <sexcopter> not sure what is causing this, but at least i have a workaround
[07:15] <jordoex> OshaMaHUe: the restricted driver manager should be easy enough to use when you install
[07:15] <n2diy> sexcopter: cool
[07:15] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, hmm, have you been unmounting it before you unplug it?
[07:15] <Gekkomon_Shogun> bod_ yea i would like to have a different background for each side of the cube
[07:15] <bod_> jay-oh-en: i only have 1 hour,.,. will u be around in 10 hours?
[07:15] <kaboombob> when i had it mounted yes
[07:15] <jordoex> OshaMaHUe: otherwise, ndisrapper works fine as well for me on my broadcom
[07:16] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, are you in irc as root?
[07:16] <bod_> Gekkomon_Shogun: go to #compiz-fusion    but the desktop background thing is very complicated
[07:16] <jordoex> OshaMaHUe: just find a wireless connection
[07:16] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: what do you recomend im going to install xfce but i have a ubuntu disc made should i download a cd and burn a xubuntu disc or what
[07:16] <bod_> nickrud: ok cheers
[07:16] <jordoex> OshaMaHUe: i mean wired
[07:16] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: yes why
[07:16] <nickrud> bod_: have you tried playing around with gconf-editor yet?
[07:16] <rzin> anyone know where to get ubuntu for ppc architecture
[07:16] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, not a good idea lol
[07:16] <jay-oh-en> bod_: ill be around do you have any clients like aim or msn
[07:17] <bod_> nickrud: looked at = yes ,.,. changed anything = no ,.,. im a linux noobie so i dont wanna break anything lol ,.,.
[07:17] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: why if not ill brb
[07:17] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, also, id use a straight xubuntu cd if you have the bandwidth and a spare cd, it will make it a much cleaner install
[07:17] <OshaMaHUe> jordoex: i looked there but there were just but there is just chipset and driver of the video card
[07:17] <bod_> jay-oh-en: i have aMSN
[07:17] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: thats what im gonig to do then
[07:17] <jay-oh-en> bod_: save this email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:17] <jay-oh-en> bod_: add that tomorrow and well start on a website
[07:18] <MasterShrek> bod_, the worst thing youll screw up is your user's gnome settings, in which case youll just have to delete all the .gnome* folders in your user's home directory (as far as i know) but it wont affect any other users ont he machine
[07:18] <kaboombob> mastershrek when i had it mounted finally yes
[07:18] <MasterShrek> bod_, when using the gconf-editor
[07:18] <bod_> jay-oh-en: cheers dude,.,. il def find u ,.,. cheers
[07:18] <jordoex> OshaMaHUe: then try ndiswrapper, it uses the windows driver, search on the ubuntu wiki
[07:18] <nickrud> bod_: you can't break anything there, and you can get back the defaults for any tree with:   gconftool --recursive-unset /path . For example, gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  will return your panels to default
[07:18] <bod_> MasterShrek: im the only user
[07:18] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, mount it and type: df    in a command line and see what it says for free space and stuff
[07:19] <bod_> nickrud: ok but wot can i do with it?
[07:19] <Gekkomon_Shogun> bod_ theirs no one their
[07:19] <MasterShrek> bod_, you could add another user, or delte that one and re-create it, is what i mean, it wont break your entire system, just that user
[07:19] <OshaMaHUe> jordoex: ok thanks
[07:19] <nickrud> bod_: looking thru there will teach more about gnome than just about anything less than reading the code
[07:19] <bod_> Gekkomon_Shogun: try again at different times m8
[07:19] <MasterShrek> bod_, if you were to screw something up
[07:19] <godaddy> while attempting to install perl-base using aptitude, I get an error: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[07:19] <bod_> nickrud: ok cheers
[07:19] <Gekkomon_Shogun> i love exploring lol
[07:19] <godaddy> I know nothing about Perl ... can anyone advise me?
[07:19] <jay-oh-en> hey
[07:20] <jay-oh-en> im back
[07:20] <bod_> hey
[07:20] <MasterShrek> welcome back jay-oh-en
[07:20] <parthan> anybody here on amd64 machine, and having problems with playing media?
[07:20] <kaboombob> mastershrek 100% usage it says
[07:20] <MasterShrek> parthan, what kinds of problems?
[07:20] <nickrud> anyway, tomorrow's a work day. see you all about
[07:20] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: im going to download the cd what makes it a cleaner install
[07:20] <bod_> parthan: im on amd64 ,.,. wots the prob?
[07:20] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, now if you delete something and type df, its still the same?
[07:21] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, because it doesnt have to install all the gnome pacakges too, just xfce
[07:21] <kaboombob> mastershrek there is nothing else to delete
[07:21] <parthan> MasterShrek, bod_ trying to reply bug #183699, if you can reply ;)
[07:21] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, everything is gone off it? is there software for the actual mp3 player on there too though?
[07:21] <MasterShrek> parthan, give me a link and ill take a look
[07:21] <bod_> pathan: hang on
[07:22] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: does xubuntu only come in dvd for united states? thats all i can find
[07:22] <parthan> master_o1_master, bod_ https://launchpad.net/bugs/183699
[07:22] <parthan> err.. MasterShrek ^^
[07:22] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, no, i always get the cds
[07:22] <kaboombob> mastershrek a small xml and 2 empty folders
[07:22] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, let me link you...
[07:22] <SomeoneElse2232> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in parallels and keep receiving this error... http://i3.tinypic.com/87mfucj.png
[07:22] <bod_> parthan: r u complaining about totem?
[07:22] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: yeah cause i cant find it
[07:23] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, i was going to suggest formatting it, but i may render your mp3 player useless so dont do it
[07:23] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: http://www.xubuntu.org/get#gutsy thats where im at
[07:23] <parthan> bod_, its not me, i was indulging in triage when i found it, myself dont use amd64 so looking for people to comment on it
[07:23] <jay-oh-en> bod_: where do you live? i live in las vegas
[07:23] <bod_> parthan: totem works like a charm,. although its a basic program,.,. amarok is better
[07:23] <bod_> jay-oh-en: england
[07:23] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/7.10/release/xubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[07:24] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, you live in vegas? must be a trip
[07:24] <parthan> bod_, then please comment in the bug :)
[07:24] <jay-oh-en> bod_: yeah how long do you stay up
[07:24] <bod_> pathan: kk
[07:24] <MasterShrek> parthan, using totem still?
[07:24] <bod_> jay-oh-en: havent slept in 2 days ,.,. wired on coffee
[07:25] <MasterShrek> totem sucks, its gnome's default thats why its there
[07:25] <kaboombob> mastershrek ok i managed to get a small txt file to fit on it df then i deleted the txt file to df again and it showed that it had taken up a few bites of space but now that its deleted those bites are still taken
[07:25] <bod_> parthan: i cant be bothered to make an account just to post ,.,. "yer it works" ,.,. cant u post it on behalf of me?
[07:25] <parthan> MasterShrek, not me. but yes people are using it still.
[07:25] <MasterShrek> i always use xine, vlc or mplayer, any of those are better than totem
[07:25] <parthan> bod_, ah ok, sure
[07:25] <SomeoneElse2232> How do I install Ubuntu?
[07:25] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: yeah i live here you should be starting to remember me now LiL-JoN ? does that ring a bell
[07:25] <bod_> parthan: cheers
[07:25] <parthan> MasterShrek, I use VLC too, and sometimes mplayer
[07:25] <MasterShrek> well yea, cuz its gnome's default media player (i dont liek gnome)
[07:25] <parthan> bod_, anyway thanks :)
[07:25] <Madpilot> SomeoneElse2232, generally by downloading the ISO, burning that to CD, and installing off the CD
[07:26] <bod_> parthan: no probs
[07:26] <Madpilot> ubotu, install | SomeoneElse2232
[07:26] <ubotu> SomeoneElse2232: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:26] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, no not really
[07:26] <skagen> how come i cant add workspaces when i turn on effects?
[07:26] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: tonight if it downloads fast enough will you help me get vlc working correctly for the web?
[07:26] <SomeoneElse2232> How do I do it without this error   http://i3.tinypic.com/87mfucj.png
[07:26] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, i wont be up that late
[07:26] <bod_> skagen: u can ,.,. do u mean extra desktops?
[07:26] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: then just forget about it
[07:26] <crdlb> skagen: because compiz uses a different kind of workspace, and gnome doesn't perfectly support it yet
[07:26] <jay-oh-en> MasterShrek: tomorrow then?
[07:27] <MasterShrek> im thinkin about getting a glass of water and crashing, i got class in 6 1/2 hrs and i didnt get much sleep last night
[07:27] <crdlb> skagen: you can change the number of compiz viewports in ccsm
[07:27] <skagen> yup installed compiz
[07:27] <skagen> viewports?
[07:27] <MasterShrek> jay-oh-en, yea, ill be online almost all day, two classes, but lots of time in between
[07:27] <skagen> let me check
[07:27] <parthan> skagen, right click on the desktop workspaces, go to preferences, you can add  there.. increase num of columns..
[07:27] <jay-oh-en> k
[07:28] <bod_> skagen: press alt+F2  ,.,. type ccsm ,.,. go into general settings ,.,. and in one of the tabs set desktop horizontal size to 4
[07:28] <KalEl> hi, i've installed ubuntu, to install kde 4 do i just sudo apt-get install kde?
[07:28] <SomeoneElse2232> Maybe Debian will help my linux needs
[07:29] <jay-oh-en> KalEl: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <badkitty> SomeoneElse2232: perhaps
[07:29] <skagen> alright! that worked
[07:29] <jay-oh-en> KalEl: sudo apt-get install kde-core
[07:29] <skagen> thanks man!
[07:29] <jay-oh-en> not the other one KalEl
[07:29] <MasterShrek> KalEl, for kde4 i think its different
[07:29] <kaboombob> mastershrek i have umounted it and mounted it again and that changed nothing
[07:29] <SomeoneElse2232> I hope it does since Ubuntu is not working for me
[07:29] <bod_> skagen: no probs ,.,. if u need help with compiz go to #compiz-fusion
[07:29] <skagen> wow.. cube looks great!
[07:29] <KalEl> thanks
[07:30] <Mongoose> how do i get java 6 compiler?
[07:30] <jay-oh-en> thats all what getts people to switch is the damn cube
[07:30] <bod_> jay-oh-en: lol,.,. yer ,.,. thats y i got it ,.,.lol,.,.
[07:30] <jay-oh-en> Mongoose: why not install from repos
[07:30] <KalEl> well it impressed my friends definitely... (the cube)
[07:30] <bod_> lol
[07:30] <Mongoose> what's it listed under? javac isnt returning anythign useful
[07:30] <kaboombob> jay-oh-en then they stop using the cube cause it eats ram like pacman eats the ghosts
[07:30] <Madpilot> SomeoneElse2232, have you looked up issues w/ Parallels installs?
[07:30] <jay-oh-en> bod_: me too but i realized its not handy and makes work slower
[07:30] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, i wouldnt think it would. try opening a terminal, then cd /mnt/sdb1 (or whatever it was) and do: ls -a     and see if something else shows up on the flash drive ( ls -a    will list all the files, inclu=ding hidden ones)
[07:30] <KalEl> they were very surprised to see the next version of vista.
[07:31] <rredd4> just to let everyone know, I downloaded the Adobe Flash player 9 tar.gz and it installed and works with no problems. (noticed the topic about adobe)
[07:31] <parthan> Mongoose, sun-java6-*
[07:31] <jay-oh-en> kaboombob: yeporooni
[07:31] <bod_> jay-oh-en: i dont get that with 1.5 gig or ram and a graphics card with 512 mb of its own memory
[07:31] <MasterShrek> KalEl, the cube isnt kde, its compiz fusion
[07:31] <skagen> now wheres that fire thingie..
[07:31] <KalEl> yep
[07:31] <jay-oh-en> bod_: i have a pretty good setup too
[07:32] <bod_> skagen: its in compiz --> effects
[07:32] <KalEl> have been using ubuntu for a while... though i don't use the "cube" (compiz) any more
[07:32] <KalEl> metacity suites me well :)
[07:32] <bod_> jay-oh-en: only adds about 10 secs to my og in time,.,.not much
[07:32] <kaboombob> mastershrek.  ..  FM RADIO  PLAYER  .Trash-root  WMPInfo.xml
[07:32] <jay-oh-en> bod_: made for gaming but after windows crashed and i had to reinstall i didnt want to game anymore so i went to linux and got the cube
[07:32] <kaboombob> mastershrek the last 2 are brightly colored
[07:32] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, sudo rm -r .Trash-root
[07:33] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, then unmount it and remount it and try df
[07:33] <abuyazan> my volume controls on my HP laptop (increase and decrease sound volume) is not working when i press them they give me the volume manager but not working
[07:33] <bod_> jay-oh-en: i moved to linux cause windows was always gettin virus's and it was annoyin me,.,. i still game on linux
[07:33] <KalEl> speaking of games, try this one: neverball - installed recently, pretty good
[07:33] <abuyazan> the mute is working
[07:33] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en: I'm in a similar position; though Windows hasn't yet crashed my computer badly (yet)... But I figure I have consoles for gaming, my PC should be for other fun stuff.
[07:34] <abuyazan> how to reconfigure them
[07:34] <bod_> GothicProphet: to right m8
[07:34] <j2daosh> how do i resume a process i stopped?
[07:34] <GothicProphet> Like programming!
[07:34] <GothicProphet> heh
[07:34] <bod_> j2daosh: start it again
[07:35] <j2daosh> u cant "unstop" something?
[07:35] <jay-oh-en> GothicProphet: yeah i have a xbox360 for gaming (i have linux working on it) lol thats why i like it also i didnt get viruses i kept it maintained then just out of nowhere it crashed it was really fast too the boom died so i looked for free alternatives and found linux
[07:35] <bod_> GothicProphet: wanna like it ,.,. but dunno where to start
[07:35] <kaboombob> mastershrek thank you and i understood what i was doing that time
[07:35] <skagen> anyone know why i cant watch youtube videos? tried to reinstall gnash but no effect
[07:35] <MasterShrek> kaboombob, did it work?
[07:35] <kaboombob> yes it did
[07:35] <j2daosh> hello?
[07:35] <bod_> j2daosh: thats like turning ur car off then puttin ur foot on th throttle and expecting it to go forwards
[07:35] <jay-oh-en> bod_: dont start programing till you know html and css then start doing c++
[07:36] <kaboombob> mastershrek i would send you money if i had any
[07:36] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en: did you know the original Xbox's OS was a linux?
[07:36] <bod_> jay-oh-en: r u jokin,.,. it'll take years to master them
[07:36] <j2daosh> bod, well since it says [1]+ stopped and the process is still in my ps, im gonna guess there is a way to resume it
[07:36] <rredd4> skagen  i had the same problem, i d/l the adobe flash player 9. followed the instructions and it works now
[07:36] <MasterShrek> lol kaboombob
[07:36] <j2daosh> or it would just be stupid to not kill it when it stops
[07:36] <skagen> i see
[07:36] <bod_> j2daosh: gd point maybe,.,. type man ps
[07:37] <mcquaid> does anyone know where a video file is cached when using mplayer-plugin? i thought it would be /tmp but doesn't seem to be there
[07:37] <jay-oh-en> bod_: not really if you do it everyday....2 months for each one and youll be on your way
[07:37] <rredd4> skagen  i also tried gnash, wash choppy
[07:37] <rredd4> was
[07:37] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en: I started with VB... then moved to HTML, going to school for C#, and teaching myself C/C++, CSS & PHP
[07:37] <GothicProphet> LoL
[07:37] <bod_> -jay-oh-en: r u willing to teach me 4 months of web-design?
[07:38] <badkitty> mcquaid...trying to save a video???
[07:38] <skagen> ill try to download it again
[07:38] <bod_> GothicProphet: ur a freal,.,. no one can do all that and still have time to get to the pub b4 it closes,.,.lol
[07:38] <GothicProphet> bod_: I can't drink.  :(
[07:38] <mcquaid> no trying to get back the space.  i've stopped the video but noticed the space didn't free.
[07:38] <bod_> GothicProphet: damn,.,. guess u can do all that then ,.,.lol,.,
[07:38] <bod_> skagen: wots the prob?
[07:39] <bod_> mcquaid: the file is prob waiting for u to resume it
[07:39] <rredd4> skagen get the tar.gz from abobe web site, read the instructions on the download page
[07:39] <jay-oh-en> bod_: uhhh im not even on that often but if your on msn alot i could teach you anytime i get on but to get started heres what you want to look at w3 schools
[07:39] <skagen> cant watch youtube videos
[07:39] <jay-oh-en> bod_: its a good website
[07:39] <skagen> yes thanks rredd4
[07:39] <mcquaid> bod_ badkitty ok fine, but where does it cache it?
[07:39] <badkitty> duno
[07:39] <GothicProphet> bod_: lol, yeah.  And I still manage to find myself some time to mess around on Warhawk (PS3)
[07:39] <Mongoose> @ jay-oh-en and parthan: thanks for the help. it worked :-D
[07:40] <bod_> jay-oh-en: could u not of given me a link,.,.lol,.,.
[07:40] <bod_> mcquaid: dunno soz
[07:40] <rredd4> and remove gnash
[07:41] <jay-oh-en> Mongoose: welcome
[07:41] <jay-oh-en> bod_: hold on http://www.w3schools.com/html/
[07:41] <abuyazan> how to reconfigure volume down and volume up on ubuntu
[07:41] <abuyazan> they are not working
[07:42] <skagen> im beginning to like ubuntu much better. although, my games are not working. dang!
[07:42] <bod_> jay-oh-en:,.,. kk will do cheers ,.,.
[07:42] <jay-oh-en> bod_: thats basics and they have css too :]
[07:42] <badkitty> skagen what games
[07:42] <jay-oh-en> bod_: http://www.w3schools.com/css/
[07:42] <bod_> jay-oh-en: css= cascading style sheet?
[07:42] <jay-oh-en> bod_: yes
[07:43] <bod_> jay-oh-en: groovy
[07:43] <skagen> flyff, nba 08, perfect world >_<
[07:43] <jay-oh-en> bod_: those are really easy to learn i practice them on myspace
[07:43] <pkundu> my laptop hangs saying "Running /scripts/init-bottom" while booting......any idea what may be the problem
[07:43] <bod_> skagen: lol
[07:43] <bod_> jay-oh-en: kk ,.,. ive done a few helo world html tutorials and such but ,.,.lol,.,.
[07:43] <skagen> oh well
[07:44] <GothicProphet> bod_: Hello world! is the staple of programming.  Any tutorials that don't have you do it are just... well, wrong!
[07:44] <GothicProphet> heh
[07:44] <fotoflo> how do i add a user to a group?
[07:44] <bod_> jay-oh-en: il be on msn in +8 hours
[07:44] <jay-oh-en> k
[07:45] <GothicProphet> bod_: what's your MSN?
[07:45] <fotoflo> usermod -G group -a ?
[07:45] <bod_> GothicProphit: i no ,.,. i did one once and it was a "hello fish" i was so disgusted ,.,. its<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:45] <bod_> jay-oh-en<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:46] <GothicProphet> bod_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is mine.
[07:47] <rredd4> fotoflo  try  System> Administration> Users and groups  then click on add user
[07:47] <bod_> GothicProphet: cheers dude
[07:47] <fotoflo> rredd4: commandline
[07:47] <rredd4> fk
[07:47] <GothicProphet> bod_: I'm on all the time... my away messages are accurate 'bout 80% of the time though... LOL
[07:47] <rredd4> fkltk
[07:47] <fotoflo> rredd4: im in ubuntu server
[07:47] <rredd4> oops
[07:47] <ivanteran> when will ubuntu have a "profesional" gui like mac os x????
[07:48] <bod_> GothicProphit: kk ,.,.lol,., i dont go on much cause i have no reason to ,.,. but i guess microsoft will get my buisiness again!,.,. damn!!!
[07:48] <Flannel> ivanteran: define professional
[07:48] <rredd4> fotoflo  sorry don't know commands that well
[07:48] <GothicProphet> ivanteran: What do you mean a 'professional' gui?
[07:48] <olddude67> ivanteran, if you mean just one desktop, forget it.
[07:48] <jay-oh-en> like paid for production
[07:49] <GothicProphet> bod_: I have AIM, Y!, and ICQ too if need be... but most of the people I talk to are on MSN... LOL
[07:49] <ivanteran> hi there, byt "profesional" i mean a feel of being using an integrated gui where the apps cooperate without any hassles like the clasic copy-paste issue
[07:49] <bod_> i no ,.,. its so annoying ,.,. im still at school so all my m8's r still microsoft bastards cause they know no different,.,. i think they should teach linux systems in school
[07:50] <jay-oh-en> ivanteran: i hate the copy paste issue
[07:50] <jay-oh-en> !copy
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about copy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <jay-oh-en> !paste
[07:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:50] <GothicProphet> bod_: I'm actually taking a class right now, Architecture and Operating Systems... it's covering XP and Linux.  heh.
[07:50] <bod_> jay-oh-en: wot copy-paste issue?
[07:50] <bod_> GothicProphet: coolio
[07:51] <jay-oh-en> bod_: you copy but it doesnt really copy it
[07:51] <bod_> jay-oh-en: im confused ?????
[07:51] <Flannel> jay-oh-en: it does, it just copies to a different buffer
[07:51] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en & ivanteran: I've run into that.
[07:51] <bod_> Nope,.,. mine copies nicely
[07:51] <jay-oh-en> GothicProphet: is there a fix?
[07:52] <bod_> jay-oh-e: yer ,.,.,.,. type it
[07:52] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en: No idea... my ubu-box is down at the moment so I haven't had a chance to mess with it.
[07:52] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en: And since it's down, I haven't bothered to look on the forums.
[07:52] <GothicProphet> heh
[07:52] <ivanteran> well, I guess the main reason for that feeling I have about the linux desktop is that the mainstream big companies do not port their apps like on mac os x
[07:53] <GothicProphet> ivanteran: They don't see much reason to.  Comparatively, linux users account for a very small percentage of total systems out there.
[07:53] <umair007> hello people can i plz ask a question
[07:53] <GothicProphet> ivanteran: We get more people using Linux, and more companies will start producing apps for it.
[07:53] <Flannel> !ask | umair007
[07:53] <ubotu> umair007: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:53] <GothicProphet> umair007: go ahead.
[07:53] <rredd4> !question
[07:54] <umair007> ok man i am using a pc with vista but i tend to get bored and want to install ubuntu which i have had for long but had to switch for some reasons
[07:54] <bod_> umair007: so wots the problem?
[07:54] <ivanteran> well, that opinion is half right, mac users represent a low share too and they have the main apps running there, so what's the deal?????
[07:54] <umair007> i was wondering if ill be able to run the compiz on ubuntu with my s3 chipset which allows aero
[07:54] <Boglizk> Is there a GUI ftp client preinstalled with Ubuntu? If not, can someone recommend one?
[07:55] <Flannel> ivanteran, GothicProphet, if you wouldn't mind taking this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, it'd be appreciated.  Thanks
[07:55] <bod_> umair007: i guess so ,.,. if its 3d hardware accelerator it will work
[07:55] <Flannel> Boglizk: places > connect to server
[07:55] <umair007> but vista Aero did work on it its s3 chrome 9 IGP
[07:55] <bod_> umair007: is ur graphics card a 3d hardware accelerator card?
[07:56] <Boglizk> Flannel: Thanks.. but they should really put that under apps > Internet.
[07:56] <umair007> another thing is that i dont think there are any propreitory drivers released for it
[07:56] <badkitty> I say if people want compiz, they should get nvidia
[07:56] <umair007> its a chipset not a graphic card and its dx 9 supporting
[07:56] <Flannel> Boglizk: Its not an application, its a built-in feature
[07:56] <phenom> Compiz runs fine for me under dells stock whatever it is.
[07:56] <phenom> :)
[07:56] <jordoex> intel
[07:56] <fotoflo> after updateing /etc/group do i have to do anything to refresh privs?
[07:56] <bod_> umair007: ok,.,. YES!
[07:57] <umair007> but man if it wont work for me that will be a heartbreaking thingy
[07:57] <elius> hello, i want to run windows xp on my ubuntu, what virtualization software should i use?
[07:57] <umair007> i want compiz and i also heard it aint that resource hunting brat
[07:57] <bod_> umair007: compiz should run fine ,.,. the heartbreak could be fixed with £40 on a graphics card
[07:58] <badkitty> elius: Use virtualbox
[07:58] <phenom> elius, VMWare server?
[07:58] <parthan> !vmware
[07:58] <umair007> man ok thats something u telling a person sitting somewhere else :P it costs a lot here
[07:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:58] <parthan> elius, ^^
[07:58] <elius> thanks
[07:58] <badkitty> phenom: didn't have luck with vmware in linux, virtualbox was much easier to setup
[07:58]  * GothicProphet does a happy dance!
[07:59] <phenom> IRSeekBot, Is any one behind your helm?
[07:59] <parthan> badkitty, get it from the vmware web site, it works
[07:59] <Voyage_>  i need help installing gcc on my root
[07:59] <phenom> VMWare works great for me,, never had any problem, and have vista and slack open now.
[07:59] <Flannel> Voyage_: install the build-essential package
[07:59] <parthan> Voyage_, apt-get install build-essential
[07:59] <badkitty> parthan: meh Im happy with virtualbox.. I use vmware in xp though
[07:59] <jay-oh-en> does anybody know if i will have alot of programs running 64bit xfce
[07:59] <jay-oh-en> ?
[08:00] <bod_> jay-oh-en: if wot?
[08:00] <phenom> Any one else have a prob with known log bots?
[08:00] <Flannel> jay-oh-en: you'll have the same programs available to you in the repositories, regardless of which WM you pick.  As for 64 bit, you'll have all the things in main and universe (at least)
[08:00] <phenom> IRSeekBot (n=IRSeekLo@irseek/log-bot/IRSeekBot)
[08:00] <jf> What the heck, my gnome-panel is gone and I'm unable to start it. If I run gnome-panel from terminal I can see it but not use it.
[08:00] <fotoflo> hmm, im having a problem with permissions
[08:00] <fotoflo> can someone help me?
[08:01] <bod_> jf: try restarting xwindows -- ctrlalt+backspace
[08:01] <jay-oh-en> bod_ / Flannel will they have any problems cause ive had alot of problems in the past should i just use 32bit version
[08:01] <Voyage_> parthan ok
[08:01] <bod_> fotoflo: shoot
[08:01] <Voyage_> how to see what is my distro
[08:01] <Flannel> fotoflo: Don't edit /etc/group, use usermod
[08:01] <fotoflo> flannel: just did
[08:01] <fotoflo> didnt work
[08:01] <jf> bod_: I have rebooted.
[08:01] <Flannel> fotoflo: What issues are you having?
[08:01] <bod_> jay-oh-en: im running the 64 distro ,.,. only prob is playing some online falsh vids
[08:01] <fotoflo> so i have user a owns directory dir, dir is in group G
[08:01] <fotoflo> i have added several users to group G
[08:02] <fotoflo> and set dir to g+rwx to
[08:02] <jay-oh-en> bod_: is it noticablly faster then 32bit?
[08:02] <bod_> jf: have u tried a complete reboot?
[08:02] <Flannel> fotoflo: and verified those permissions are on it?
[08:02] <jf> bod_: Yes.
[08:02] <fotoflo> and o-rwx
[08:02] <GothicProphet> bod_: Which version of 64 are you using?
[08:02] <bod_> jay-oh-en: dunno why the fuck would i have ever had a 32 distro if i have a 64bit processor ,,.,.lol
[08:03] <bod_> GothicProphet: wot do u mean?
[08:03] <Flannel> !language | bod_
[08:03] <ubotu> bod_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:03] <GothicProphet> bod_: my vista is 32-bit
[08:03] <bod_> ubotu: sorry
[08:03] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[08:03] <bod_> Flannel:sorry
[08:03] <fotoflo> flannel: drwxrwx---
[08:03] <GothicProphet> bod_: I mean are you using gnome/kde/etc?
[08:03] <badkitty> The 64bit version seems to lack as much support
[08:03] <bod_> GothicProphit: im running ubuntu 7.10 and64 gutsy
[08:03] <bod_> gnome
[08:03] <fotoflo> if i set o+rwx user b can read and write
[08:04] <fotoflo> but if i remove it, then its no goi
[08:04] <GothicProphet> bod_: if I experience the probs with the flash videos, I'll find a fix and let you know.  ;)
[08:04] <badkitty> Anyone else besides me have 64bit processor running 32 for good reasons?
[08:04] <jay-oh-en> GothicProphet: are you 64bit?
[08:04] <Flannel> fotoflo: user b is in group G?
[08:04] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en: Yep
[08:04] <fotoflo> flannel: yes
[08:04] <jay-oh-en> badkitty: me
[08:04] <Flannel> fotoflo: `sudo -u b groups` shows G?
[08:04] <fotoflo> Flannel: do i have to refresh permssions
[08:04] <Flannel> fotoflo: no
[08:04] <jay-oh-en> GothicProphet: i meant distro
[08:04] <bod_> GothicProphet: the only fix is to use the 32bit firefox ,.,. and il do that some other day cause i cba atm,.,.lol,,.,.
[08:04] <GothicProphet> bod_: If I don't find a fix and it gives me other issues, I'll be switching back to a 32bit version.
[08:05] <badkitty> jay-oh-en: They probably just haven't hit the 64-bit ISSUES yet ...
[08:05] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en: Oh, ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy)
[08:05] <bod_> GothicProphet: ok
[08:05] <fotoflo> Flannel: yup
[08:05] <jay-oh-en> bad
[08:05] <jay-oh-en> badkitty: i always did in feisty and it was horrible
[08:05] <bod_> jay-oh-en: its reletively new,.,.give it time
[08:05] <fotoflo> hmm
[08:06] <fotoflo> Flannel: i think i just figured it out
[08:06] <badkitty> jay-oh-en: I tried 64 in edgy...that was a bad idea
[08:06] <fotoflo> Flannel: lemme try something
[08:06] <GothicProphet> All the 64 stuff is pretty new... Let the geeks (and I say that with much love!) have some time to tinker.  ;)
[08:06] <bod_> lol
[08:06] <jay-oh-en> badkitty: sounds bad eeeww
[08:06] <GothicProphet> brb, updating
[08:06] <bod_> When u say geeks in respect to linux ,.,. ur always meaning it in a good way!!!1
[08:06] <badkitty> jay-oh-en: I likened the 64 edgy stable to an unstable nightly build erc
[08:07] <bod_> jay-oh-en: 64 gutsy gnome ,.,. works fine
[08:07] <GothicProphet> back
[08:07] <jay-oh-en> badkitty: its just toooooooo much for me  its a"i can fix it" but "i dont have the time to fix it" kinda thing
[08:08] <bod_> lol
[08:08] <fotoflo> flannel: had to log out and log back in
[08:08] <jay-oh-en> bod_: ill skip until hoary
[08:08] <Flannel> jay-oh-en: Hardy
[08:08] <GothicProphet> jay-oh-en: When's that one coming out?
[08:08] <badkitty> jay-oh-en: For the most part yeah..
[08:08] <bod_> jay-oh-en: nah ,.,. il just upgrade
[08:08] <fotoflo> Flannel: otherwise the group information wasnt updated
[08:08] <jay-oh-en> Flannel: thanks for catching that lol
[08:09] <bod_> anyone no why i have a coupl of buttons on my xchat called "ban" and "kick" when they werent there last time?
[08:10] <Leo1989> Guys. how to set up Ubuntu so the keyboard controls become similar to Windows's one?
[08:10] <Cin> if i've got an ubuntu setup and i have net access, is it possible to download an ubuntu setup ISO and install from scratch over the existing one?
[08:10] <Flannel> Leo1989: Like what?
[08:10] <fotoflo> Flannel: thanks: i ran sudo -u groups
[08:10] <Flannel> Cin: yes
[08:10] <fotoflo> and then groups without the sudo
[08:10] <bkar> try to use xmodmap Leo1989
[08:10] <Cin> Flannel: what is that process called?(so i can google it)
[08:10] <andruk> I'm having trouble with wine-doors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52234/
[08:10] <misslecommande1> !freeze
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freeze - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <fotoflo> and saw that my user was added to the group on the sudo but not from the tty
[08:11] <bod_> Leo1989: thats just a standard setup ,.,. check application --> other --> keyboard & keyboard layout
[08:11] <fotoflo> :-)
[08:11] <Flannel> Cin: Just... reinstalling.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[08:11] <misslecommande1> i have random freezes, not sure what is causing them though
[08:11] <misslecommande1> reinstall is pretty easy once u have done it
[08:11] <bod_> misslecommande1: have u installed anything recently ?
[08:12] <Leo1989> bod: what is name for those layout which is similar to windows?
[08:12] <Cin> Flannel: which of these will allow me to install without the need for floppy disk/CD/netboot?
[08:12] <jay-oh-en> misslecommande1: do you have compiz installed?
[08:13] <bod_> Leo1989: use Generic 104-key pc us-english
[08:13] <Flannel> Cin: ah.  Scroll down a little and there are media-less installs.
[08:13] <Cin> ah,oki
[08:14] <Cin> Flannel: ahh.i found it. installing by setting up another partition to house the install cd
[08:14] <Cin> Flannel: thanks
[08:14] <kr00l> How do you get Avant Desktop Navigator to run at startup?
[08:16] <kr00l> Hello?
[08:16] <GothicProphet> Hiya, kr00l
[08:16] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru нахуй
[08:16] <kr00l> Do you know how to get Avant to run at the startup?
[08:16] <GothicProphet> kr00l: sadly, no.
[08:17] <jrc> go to System -> preferences -> sessions
[08:17] <badkitty> Goodnight all
[08:17] <GothicProphet> night badkitty!
[08:17] <GothicProphet> rest well
[08:17] <kr00l> jrc, I've tried remember session and it never works
[08:17] <jrc> hmm
[08:18] <sahl> help me... do you know best-free partition manager(like part mgic)??
[08:18] <andruk> I'm having trouble with wine-doors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52234/
[08:18] <kr00l> jrc you know how to do the manual add?
[08:18] <kr00l> sahl, do you have ubuntu installed?
[08:18] <sahl> not yet
[08:18] <sahl> i want to install it
[08:19] <kr00l> sahl, are you running it on the live cd?
[08:19] <parthan> sahl, gparted and qparted from the Live CD
[08:19] <sahl> ???
[08:19] <kr00l> sahl, Ubuntu Live cd has gparted on it
[08:19] <bod_> GothicProphit: jay-oh-en: im off now cya later
[08:19] <GothicProphet> See ya, bod_!
[08:20] <sahl> how to use gparted or qparted??
[08:20] <parthan> sahl, it is GUI, so you just need to click and do things
[08:20] <jsemmanuel> system>preferences>sessions works for me
[08:20] <parthan> !gparted
[08:20] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[08:21] <sahl> which one better, q or g?
[08:21] <parthan> sahl, both are good
[08:21] <kr00l> sahl, just do it manually!
[08:21] <misslecommander> it was freezing on raw install
[08:22] <misslecommander> i got network to work, and installed the nvidia restricted driver, but now i disabled the restr driv
[08:22] <sahl> so, it's alreary on the CD?
[08:22] <misslecommander> sofar seems less freeze when not using restricted driver for nvidia
[08:22] <sahl> already..
[08:22] <parthan> sahl, do you want to partition and install Ubuntu?
[08:22] <djeday> i need a program to grub video from display
[08:23] <kr00l> sahl, we don't know who you are talking to if you don't first post their name. like this "kr00l: yeah i'm ready"
[08:24] <sahl> kr001, tnkq i'm newbie
[08:24] <gvsa123> i still need help with my system clock please... it won't sync.
[08:24] <sahl> kr001, please repeat how to use q/gparted...
[08:24] <kr00l> sahl, it's kr00l <--- lower case L
[08:25] <kr00l> sahl: are you running the Ubuntu live cd?
[08:25] <parthan> sahl, type the first few letters of the name and press tab to complete it, you can keep pressing tab till you get the name you want
[08:25] <gobbles414> Hi all.... I have a question about the OOo Media Player in Ubuntu Linux. But the Openoffice.org channel is dead right now. Can somebody help me?
[08:25] <djeday> advise me the program for capture of video from the screen
[08:26] <sahl> kr00l, yes, but not now
[08:26] <kr00l> parthan, are you helping shal?
[08:26] <kr00l> parthan, sahl is confused so i'm going to let you help him
[08:26] <kr00l> sahl, parthan will be helping you so talk to him
[08:26] <gobbles414> djeday: A program called recordtomydesktop in the repositories does a good job. Configuring audio capture in the program is difficult, however.
[08:27] <parthan> kr00l, carry on..
[08:27] <sahl> parthan,kr00l, how to use it from live-cd
[08:27] <parthan> kr00l, i will not confuse him further
[08:27] <djeday> kr00l: thx
[08:27] <kr00l> parthan, i think you know more than I do
[08:27] <gobbles414> djeday: I recommend installing the GTK interface for recordmydesktop as well
[08:27] <kr00l> sahl, did you download the Ubuntu image and burn it to a cd?
[08:27] <parthan> kr00l, bah.. nothing like that :)
[08:28] <gobbles414> Can anyone help me with my question... About the media player in OpenOffice?
[08:28] <sahl> no, i've req from shipit
[08:28] <Flannel> !ask | gobbles414
[08:28] <ubotu> gobbles414: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:29] <goatman> hi all
[08:29] <kr00l> sahl, please remember to address me first so i can see you're talking to me. So do you have a cd or not?
[08:29] <goatman> ubuntu is hot
[08:29] <sahl> kr00l, i'm sorry :).. i've cd, i've req it from shipit
[08:30] <jay-oh-en>  does xubuntu have alot of support for hardware and what makes it so fast?
[08:30] <jay-oh-en>  what about for a mp730 printer
[08:30] <kr00l> sahl, so right now you don't have a ubuntu live cd?
[08:30] <sahl> kr00l, i've had live-cd
[08:30] <yudigadget> how to fix print no respond?
[08:30] <gobbles414> Hi Flannel and ubotu... Here's my question then: I need a way to assign hotkeys to the media player in OpenOffice. I do a lot of transcriptions for my job.
[08:31] <kr00l> sahl, what kind of pc do you have?
[08:31] <yudigadget> i tried to /etc/init.d/cupsys restart but no effect
[08:31] <kr00l> shal, Desktop or laptop then the brand please
[08:31] <vzduch> OpenOffice has a media player? o0
[08:31] <sahl> kr00l, it is different on diff pc?
[08:31] <gobbles414> Yes, in the TOOLS menu ....I've tried recording a macro for each button...
[08:32] <yudigadget> i did google and there is information to emerge foomatic
[08:32] <glick> hi
[08:32] <yudigadget> how to do emerge foomatic
[08:32] <gobbles414> ....but using the macros does nothing during playback
[08:32] <glick> excuse me i installed gnome-compiz-manager
[08:32] <glick> but it wont start when i try to start it
[08:32] <glick> and now my desktop seems much slower and less responsive for some reason
[08:32] <vzduch> yudigadget: are you in the wrong channel?  this is not #gentoo..
[08:32] <kr00l> sahl, no it's not different on each PC. I just need to know because for the cd to work you have to make sure that your PC tries to boot from the cd rom first
[08:32] <sahl> kr00l, so what command or menu I've to write/click???
[08:32] <sahl> kr00l, ...from live-cd???
[08:32] <Polysics> hi ppl
[08:32] <kr00l> sahl, correct
[08:33] <Polysics> frivolous question: are there any poker sites you can play on while on linux?
[08:33] <yudigadget> vzduch i'm sorry i don't know about emerge foomatic, i don't know whether ubuntu or gentoo
[08:33] <kr00l> sahl, see the cd works only if your computer boots the cd rom drive first and the Hard Drive last
[08:33] <yudigadget> what i want to ask is how to fix this cups problem on ubuntu
[08:33] <kr00l> sahl: do you have 2 computers?
[08:33] <Kalamansi> kr00l how to save my config? when i type this "ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth1, udo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>,echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and pc2 then pc3 can connect to the internet..i reboot my server, after backing up, and do a ifconfig all that i entered in eth1 was gone... and pc2 / pc3 cant connect to the internet.. how to solve this problem?
[08:33] <sahl> kr00l, no
[08:34] <glick> can anyone help me get my 3d cube back?
[08:34] <kr00l> Kalamansi, way too advanced for me
[08:34] <kr00l> sahl: what brand computer do you have?
[08:34] <gobbles414> Do any of you have any ideas about my OpenOffice issue? I need to assign keyboard shortcuts to the OpenOffice Media Player.
[08:35] <bullgard4> Wikipedia writes: "Video4Linux or V4L is a video capture API for Linux." Whatis meant by a 'video capture application programming interface'? (I know what an application programming interface is.)
[08:35] <glick> how can i get the spinning 3-d cube back?
[08:35] <kr00l> sahl: Dell, Compaq, HP, Custom built?
[08:36] <sahl> kr00l, i planned to buy new pc (windows) , and i want dual-boot:ubuntu
[08:36] <gvsa123> any ideas or links as to why my system clock isn't syncing?
[08:36] <kr00l> sahl: I can help you install but you have to do it now using the live cd
[08:37] <Flannel> gvsa123: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html  I suggest ntpd over ntpdate
[08:37] <eitreach> I have this recurring problem that nautilus seems to crash every so often, meaning I have to terminate the process to get it started functionally again. Any idea on how to fix this?
[08:37] <sahl> kr00l, is it difficult to do partition? is it only need to write command or...
[08:37] <gvsa123> Flannel: thanks, i'll check it out... i'm like two days, XXX hours behind... :)
[08:38] <sahl> kr00l, i use live-cd...
[08:38] <kr00l> sahl: how much are you going to spend on a new computer? It's easy if you use the live cd, the live cd brings you right through everything
[08:38] <gobbles414> :'(Any ideas about how to create keyboard shortcuts for the OpenOffice Media Player?
[08:38] <glick> does anyone have the 3d desktop?
[08:38] <misslecommande1> why is my processes "sleeping" ?
[08:38] <glick> how can i change the settings?
[08:39] <msoeken> Good morning. Since I use Gutsy I cannot view the movies on my second attached screen (ati driver, xorg.conf is not changed)
[08:39] <Polysics> glick, i've used it for a while but it seems pointless
[08:39] <Polysics> you need to install a package but honestly i don't remember which
[08:39] <misslecommande1> glick i had to change source settings on administration, check bix that says restricted drivers able to download from interent
[08:39] <Polysics> msoeken, i've had ALL sorts of problems with gutsy/ATI/dual head
[08:39] <misslecommande1> i check processes, they all were sleeping
[08:39] <Polysics> tilda has stopped working outright
[08:40] <misslecommande1> `
[08:40] <misslecommande1> ~
[08:40] <sahl> kr00l, ...??? hmm, to simpl the case, now please give me help how to run g/qparted. i'm now in my school. my teacher asked me not to be long...
[08:40] <Polysics> misslecommande1, tilda as in the overlay terminal emulator :-)
[08:40] <misslecommande1> oh ok, i am new
[08:40] <kr00l> sahl: i don't know how to tell you to run it if you don't have the live cd
[08:40] <Polysics> i now use yakuake, which works, but looks like i've tacked a tiger's tail on a toucan
[08:41] <gvsa123> Flannel: i get this: 16 Jan 22:49:58 ntpdate[9238]: bind() fails: Permission denied when running ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com in the terminal
[08:41] <misslecommande1> one of the biggest help in downloading files needed, was choosing "Software Sources" from the System/Admin
[08:42] <sahl> kr00l, i mean i've a live-cd, but now i'm now in my school. i want to do it in my pc at home,,,
[08:42] <Flannel> gvsa123: use sudo
[08:42] <fotoflo> Flannel: you still here?
[08:42] <fotoflo> Flannel: still having group problems
[08:42] <kr00l> sahl: well can you go home and then get back on here and talk to me? Where are you located
[08:42] <misslecommande1> u can choose not to use CDROM, and choose internet, but i dont know that will work
[08:42] <gvsa123> Flannel: now this: 16 Jan 22:51:43 ntpdate[9262]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[08:43] <sahl> kr00l, my pc at home doesn't conn. to internet...
[08:43] <parthan> sahl, do you have an empty CD and can burn it here in school?
[08:43] <misslecommande1> krOOL: you vetran of linux ?
[08:43] <Flannel> gvsa123: You'll need to kill the currently running ntpdate (it starts when you boot).  ps aux | grep ntpdate
[08:43] <fotoflo> Flannel: having trouble doing things from samba
[08:43] <kr00l> sahl: for ubuntu to find all the hardware in your computer it has to be connected to the net during the install
[08:44] <kr00l> sahl: if you don't do it then everything may not work
[08:44] <misslecommande1> internet connection almost a true need to do anything like that, as far as i can see
[08:44] <goatman> can ubuntu play card games
[08:44] <sahl> kr00l, is it just to run (gui) q/gparted???
[08:44] <Flannel> fotoflo: samba is a whole other thing.  And something I have no idea about.  https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/windows-networking.html  is the best I can do
[08:44] <kr00l> !gparted
[08:44] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[08:44] <misslecommande1> i fiddled with this box for days, only to finally get interent, and all is so  so so much better
[08:44] <gvsa123> Flannel: i get this: me    9279  0.0  0.3   2976   748 pts/0    R+   22:53   0:00 grep ntpdate
[08:44] <kr00l> sahl:!gparted
[08:44] <fotoflo> i think i got it working
[08:44] <Flannel> gvsa123: try just ps aux | grep ntp
[08:45] <misslecommande1> test
[08:45] <kr00l> sahl: !gparted
[08:45] <fotoflo> Flannel: that url is pretty useless
[08:45] <olddude67> misslecommande1, failed
[08:45] <fotoflo> as is the default samba conf
[08:45] <sahl> kr00l, how to run !gparted???
[08:45] <gvsa123> Flannel: ntp       5250  0.0  0.3   4128   812 ?        Ss   16:59   0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u 110:120 -g
[08:45] <gvsa123> girard    9295  0.0  0.2   1760   464 pts/0    R+   22:54   0:00 grep ntp
[08:45] <gvsa123> whoops sorry...
[08:45] <Librustralia> :D:D:D:D I FIXED MY COMP! yay
[08:45] <sahl> kr00l, what command/menu???
[08:46] <parthan> sahl, visit the gparted website, you can download the .iso image and burn it to a CD, boot the machine using that CD
[08:46] <Flannel> gvsa123: No need otpaste.  Anyway, second column (5250) is the PID.  sudo kill 5250, then you can run ntpdate
[08:46] <sahl> parthan, where?? http://...???
[08:46] <parthan> sahl | !gparted
[08:47] <misslecommande1> test
[08:47] <parthan> misslecommande1, you are here
[08:47] <misslecommande1> thank you
[08:47] <misslecommande1> it was a pain to get my wireless netcard working, i am glad to be here :)
[08:47] <eitreach> I have this recurring problem that nautilus seems to crash every so often, meaning I have to terminate the process to get it started functionally again. Any idea on how to fix this?
[08:47] <parthan> sahl, http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[08:47] <kr00l> sahl: using the live cd you go to the top of the menu > System > Administrator > Partition Editor
[08:48] <gvsa123> Flannel: it says no server suitable for synchronization ffound
[08:48] <gvsa123> Flannel: i just look for another server?
[08:48] <misslecommande1> i think the OS itself , almost certainly needs an internet connection. i messed with it for days, finally getting the net to work, all is much better now
[08:48] <Flannel> gvsa123: you used ntp.ubuntu.com?
[08:49] <parthan> misslecommande1, what got messed up?
[08:49] <gvsa123> Flannel: yes
[08:49] <sahl> kr00l, thank you... so much it's what i mean. do i have to download it, or it's already in CD?
[08:49] <cgreer> I want to download every webpage that belongs to a specific domain (let's say cnn), what is the easiest way to do this
[08:49] <cgreer> ?
[08:49] <cgreer> wget?
[08:49] <misslecommande1> i had to switch between this an windows, in order to download the files i needed
[08:49] <kr00l> sahl: do you know what a live cd is?
[08:49] <misslecommande1> just to get the netcard to work
[08:49] <kr00l> sahl: because it's on the live cd
[08:49] <parthan> misslecommande1, nice
[08:50] <Black_Mask> what's the room i should join to get support regarding mackintosh products?
[08:50] <arooni> folks; ubuntu has been crashing on me recently (i dont think its a CPU heat thing, its well below the expected range).... any ideas?
[08:50] <misslecommande1> i come here, little by little i finally got it to work, and i thank you all
[08:50] <misslecommande1> i have less freezes, now that i disabled the nvdia restricted driver
[08:50] <phenom> IRSeekBot: You're gay,, log that..
[08:50] <fx_> Can someone tell me, who does the 200.x.x.x IP range belong to?
[08:50] <fx_> I am a nooby whos channel got flooded
[08:50] <fx_> mostly from floodbots on 200.x.x.x
[08:51] <fx_> think its foreign?
[08:51] <fx_> or north american
[08:51] <GothicProphet> fx_: try a whois
[08:51] <Flannel> !offtopic | fx_
[08:51] <ubotu> fx_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:51] <Madpilot> fx_, please use #freenode for stuff like that
[08:51] <fx_> sorry all
[08:51] <fx_> i am a nooby
[08:51] <fx_> just trying to get help
[08:51] <GothicProphet> Anyway...
[08:51] <Suva> North america is foreign for some people :P
[08:51] <GothicProphet> I'm off for the night/morning all.. see ya!
[08:52] <olddude67> ya, and the ones like me who live there its foreign to us too.
[08:52] <Madpilot> fx_, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[08:52] <misslecommande1> <IP_ADDRESS> -> ns,embratel.net.br
[08:52] <Suva> We all live on the Earth, so nothing is foreign
[08:53] <misslecommande1> by the way, i like the network tools, they are a great idea
[08:53] <kr00l> sahl, you still around?
[08:53] <sahl> kr00l, parthan, all, thank you so much... i'll try to find it. i'm sorry if i've made you hard... see you ;)
[08:53] <riaal> lol, how to exit a manpage?
[08:53] <gvsa123> Flannel: 17 Jan 16:52:58 ntpdate[9372]: step time server <IP_ADDRESS> offset 64244.880235 sec this i got when i used the -u options as mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-470541.html
[08:53] <Flannel> riaal: q
[08:53] <zt34528> riaal: q
[08:53] <riaal> q:)
[08:54] <riaal> thanks
[08:54] <kr00l> sahl, if you are looking to buy a nice desktop computer that has ubuntu and windows on it? I sell them
[08:54] <Flannel> gvsa123: thats what you want
[08:54] <robinsjostrom> i apt-get compiz, how do i remove it?
[08:54] <kr00l> robinsjostrom, use the packet manager
[08:54] <Sergo> hello, is program qtparted bootable from CD? can i work with it without operating system
[08:54] <Sergo> ?
[08:55] <gvsa123> Flannel: i see... the date changed already... but i'm a little off in time
[08:55] <Slart> Sergo: you can use the live cd and run gparted from that
[08:55] <Sergo> Slart, thanks
[08:55] <Flannel> gvsa123: by an integral amount of hours, I imagine?
[08:55] <gvsa123> Flannel: ah... i unticked use utc... and it's ok now
[08:56] <parthan> robinsjostrom, apt-get remove compiz
[08:56] <kr00l> NIGHT ALL!
[08:56] <gvsa123> Flannel: it perfect now... i have the same time as my cell phone whcih supposedly syncs with my service provider... thanks a lot
[08:57] <rocco> hey guys.....an ubuntu machine of mine is running between .5 and .7 load
[08:57] <gvsa123> Flannel: but when i issued the kill command, that means that the daemon [?] runs on boot, but why doesn't it sync? because i need the -u option?
[08:57] <rocco> but a top shows no command taking upthat cpu
[08:57] <rocco> any ideas?
[08:57] <rocco> I am running software raid
[08:57] <Arthur> How do I check the system hardware info like GHz, RAM, and the like?
[08:58] <misslecommande1> i have raid capable system, but i am not using it
[08:58] <Flannel> gvsa123: I really have no idea.  They changed since Ive dealt with it (I'm runnign dapper) and on dapper ntpdate is run each boot (I believe ntpd has a one-time option that behaves the same way? I dont know)
[08:58] <gvsa123> Flannel: hey gotta go... but thanks a lot.. been living with this problem for more than a week now...
[08:58] <misslecommande1> System Monitor shows basic information like that
[08:59] <gvsa123> Flannel: i see... but thanks a lot again...
[08:59] <robinsjostrom> thanks parthan
[08:59] <misslecommande1> more detailed info in Hardware Information
[08:59] <misslecommande1> oh, thats for Arthur
[09:00] <parthan> Arthur, sudo lshw
[09:00] <Arthur> Ah, many thanks
[09:00] <misslecommande1> i found it earlier
[09:00] <Slart> rocco: so.. you have on average 0.6 processes running... that sounds like something is waking up every now and then...you probably looked when it was sleeping
[09:01] <misslecommande1> Slart i had this happen >> checked processes becaue irc wasnt repondind, and all the apps had "Sleeping"
[09:01] <misslecommande1> whats that all about ?
[09:01] <rocco> Slart, well it used to run with a load of 0 0 0
[09:02] <Slart> misslecommande1: nothing was running I guess.. like most computers these days.. waiting for keyboard input
[09:02] <rocco> Slart, anyway to watch to see what processes are waking up
[09:02] <misslecommande1> ok, solong as it is normal
[09:03] <Slart> rocco: you can always reboot and look at the "total time" column to see which process is increasing it's time..might be more then one though
[09:03] <Slart> misslecommande1: it is normal afaik
[09:03] <misslecommande1> ok ty
[09:03] <jay-oh-en> can somebody help me with doing a manual install?
[09:04] <jay-oh-en> misslecommande1: you figure your problem out?
[09:04] <rocco> is that the time column in a ps aux commaned Slart ?
[09:04] <fotoflo> quick terminal question: i have several files 1.gz 2.gz 3.gz and i want to rename them all ABC1.gz ABC2.gz... how do i do this?
[09:04] <jay-oh-en> !swap
[09:04] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[09:04] <misslecommande1> seems like the nvidia-gtk-new was causing more frequent freezes
[09:05] <_ruben> fotoflo: for $x in *.gz ; do mv $x ABC$x ; done
[09:05] <jay-oh-en> misslecommande1: yep that was it i just couldnt stick arond to help sorry but im glad you got your problem fixed
[09:05] <misslecommande1> i feel like i am taking a lunch break, 2 or 3 days of hell, finally now i can see what linux is all about
[09:05] <misslecommande1> yeah me 2
[09:05] <Slart> rocco: try using htop instead of top.. you get pretty colors and some extra columns
[09:06] <Slart> rocco: or just use the system monitor in gnome
[09:06] <misslecommande1> getting connected to network was a MAJOR help, so major
[09:06] <rocco> system monitor in gnome says 2%
[09:06] <rocco> I'm logged in over ssh
[09:06] <harrison> hello
[09:06] <jay-oh-en> so can anybody help with donig a manual install? like selecting how much space ech partion needs
[09:06] <misslecommande1> test
[09:06] <Slart> rocco: you can select what columns to view in the system monitor.. there are many many
[09:07] <Slart> hello harrison
[09:07] <harrison> I cant find my old irc client...
[09:07] <jay-oh-en> fine then ignore me
[09:07] <harrison> oh well
[09:07] <Slart> jay-oh-en: I'm to tired to do a walk-through.. but you can ask us questions as you run into them
[09:07] <misslecommande1> pidgin stops every once in a while, dont quite know wht
[09:07] <rocco> Slart, htop shows 0.7% cpu sometimes, occasionally 1.3%
[09:07] <TFrog> is there anyone here that has setup gkrellm and using the gkrellkam plugin?
[09:07] <rocco> only 1 process running
[09:08] <jay-oh-en> Slart: its not really a walk through i just need you to answer questions i ask along the way
[09:08] <Slart> rocco: you could try running powertop.. not that I think about it that shows wake ups.. and what is running
[09:08] <harrison> I spent all night looking on how to enable AGP fastwrite, I enabled it and there barly any difference :P
[09:08] <rocco> ahhh cool
[09:08] <jay-oh-en> slart like if i have 500gb harddrive how much swap do i need and how much /home partion and how much / partion?
[09:08] <rocco> it's dropping right down now
[09:08] <rocco> 0.14
[09:08] <misslecommande1> jay-oh-en : i see what you said, pigdin stopped on me, i just closes tab and /join again
[09:08] <rocco> maybe it was the uptime and top commands that were driving it high?
[09:08] <Slart> jay-oh-en: all the gurus say swap should be twice your RAM
[09:09] <Bokja> can sb help me install windows on the second partition
[09:09] <Slart> rocco: that might very well be it
[09:09] <rocco> Slart, how stupid ;)
[09:09] <jay-oh-en> slart i have 1gb ram ddr2 i think tho
[09:09] <harrison> really, what does swap do?
[09:09] <misslecommande1> i am not using swap file, i can make a partition for it though
[09:09] <rocco> that interrogating your system can lead it to show that it may be broken
[09:09] <jay-oh-en> harrison: acts as extra mem
[09:09] <Slart> jay-oh-en: then 2 GB swap should be ok
[09:09] <jay-oh-en> !swap > harrison
[09:09] <harrison> oh of course
[09:10] <jay-oh-en> Slart: how much is that in mbs?
[09:10] <harrison> like virtual memory on windows?
[09:10] <Slart> jay-oh-en: 2048 MB
[09:10] <misslecommande1> i will make a swap file eventually
[09:10] <jay-oh-en> slart thanks
[09:10] <misslecommande1> you think not having swap file might be cuase of some freezes ?
[09:11] <harrison> How much performance can I gain with a swap file?
[09:11] <misslecommande1> mostly happens when clicking or keyboard input
[09:11] <jay-oh-en> Slart: how much for the whole linux system like the "/" partion
[09:11] <Slart> jay-oh-en: for the rest I'd say.. 10 GB for the system root
[09:11] <robinsjostrom> everytime i start ubuntu i have to type "ifup eth0" to get ip from dhcp server. How can i make it do this automaticly?
[09:12] <olddude67> misslecommande1, how much memory does your computer have?
[09:12] <rocco> Slart I like powertop
[09:12] <rocco> :D
[09:12] <Slart> jay-oh-en: and the rest to be used for home and such... depends on what you are going to install... are you going to use wine? then your home drive grows substantially
[09:12] <jay-oh-en> Slart: most people say 30gbs
[09:12] <Slart> rocco: it's great..
[09:12] <rocco> you're telling me
[09:12] <misslecommande1> olddude 1 gig ddr 400mhz
[09:12] <rocco> well things seemed to have quietened down
[09:13] <Slart> jay-oh-en: 30GB is a lot for the system.. hang on.. let me check how big mine is
[09:13] <olddude67> you might want to have a swap file then.
[09:13] <jay-oh-en> Slart: i have 500gb harddrive so i am going to make the /home the rest then i have another 200gb of mem for just whatever
[09:13] <misslecommande1> thats why i didnt make swapfile right away, i had alot of memory
[09:13] <misslecommande1> olddude: ok i will make one next reboot
[09:13] <olddude67> i have a gig and a half and still have a swap file.
[09:13] <harrison> how do I check my current swap file size?
[09:14] <jay-oh-en> !root
[09:14] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:14] <misslecommande1> olddude : i had reseved only 25 gig of 80 gig HD for ubuntu, but wasnt expecting it to ask me for swap after i chose full free space
[09:14] <harrison> anyone got any help?
[09:14] <misslecommande1> i can easily make room though, i am good at that
[09:14] <Slart> jay-oh-en: my computer is still thinking about the disk size thingy... I think I have less than 8GB used on my root partition..
[09:15] <harrison> anyone?
[09:15] <jay-oh-en> Slart: but is it going to get bigger or no
[09:15] <olddude67> well it would be a good choice if u have the room
[09:15] <Slart> jay-oh-en: not that much..
[09:15] <harrison> how do I check my swap size?
[09:15] <misslecommande1> olddude: on this machine i have total of 240 gig available, but i also have multiple OS's
[09:15] <robinsjostrom> why do i have to type "ifup eth0" to get ip from dhcp server everytime i reboot?
[09:15] <dgjones> harrison, the simplest way i can think of off the top of my head would be to open gparted and see what that shows the parition sizes are
[09:15] <Slart> jay-oh-en: but you could make it 30 GB if it makes you sleep better at night =)
[09:16] <harrison> gparter an app I guess?
[09:16] <jay-oh-en> Slart: im going to do some research cause why waste space
[09:16] <olddude67> harrison, i use gkrellm and at the bottom it tells me my swap size command wise i wouldnt know.
[09:16] <misslecommande1> robinsjostrom : i have similiar issue, but i dont know of the ifup thing
[09:16] <robinsjostrom> misslecommande1: damn i need to get it to work
[09:16] <harrison> is gkrellm avalable in add remove?
[09:17] <rocco> Slart seems to have subsided now
[09:17] <dgjones> harrison, yes, its under one of the drop down menus, not the apps one though, i'm not on ubuntu at the minute so i can't point directly to it
[09:17] <Slart> jay-oh-en: if you don't want to waste space you can make one big system drive.. but then backing up will be trickier
[09:17] <harrison> ok
[09:17] <Slart> rocco: hehe.. boiled pot and all =)
[09:17] <harrison> found it!
[09:17] <misslecommande1> robinson: i would think there is a script you can run at boot, but i am new, so i dont know for sure
[09:17] <harrison> installing
[09:17] <rocco> Slart, thanks for the help....I'll keep an eye on it
[09:17] <robinsjostrom> misslecommande1: auto eth0
[09:17] <robinsjostrom> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:17] <rocco> but was getting worried
[09:17] <rocco> chkrootkit showed nothing
[09:18] <misslecommande1> robin : thank you, i sure could use that
[09:18] <jay-oh-en> Slart: ok i have 700gigs you think im worried about that
[09:18] <Slart> jay-oh-en: ok..my /usr is 8.8 GB.. the rest is under 1 GB in size..
[09:18] <harrison> I found this good swap FAQ
[09:18] <harrison> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[09:18] <jay-oh-en> Slart: i looked it up ill do 10gbs
[09:18] <jay-oh-en> harrison: thats what i sent you in pm
[09:19] <harrison> I have 855M...IS that good?
[09:19] <harrison> really?
[09:19] <jay-oh-en> Slart: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480894\
[09:19] <Slart> jay-oh-en: my current size was about 9GB.. if I were you I'd go with 15.. it's annoying to run out of space on your root partition
[09:19] <harrison> oh ye
[09:19] <jay-oh-en> Slart: ok well i have the space since thats no big deal
[09:20] <robinsjostrom> misslecommande1: auto eth0 tells it to do it at startup
[09:20] <jay-oh-en> Slart: how big is 15 in gbs?
[09:20] <harrison> so is 855M Mega bite?
[09:20] <jay-oh-en> Slart: how big is 15gbs in MBs?
[09:20] <Slart> jay-oh-en: 15*1024... or just put 15000
[09:20] <harrison> 1027mb in a GB
[09:20] <jay-oh-en> harrison: how big is your harddrive
[09:20] <harrison> this one im using is just 20GB
[09:21] <Slart> harrison: 1027?
[09:21] <harrison> close enough :P
[09:21] <jay-oh-en> Slart: so 151024
[09:21] <Slart> =)
[09:21] <jay-oh-en> or 15 times 1024
[09:22] <Slart> jay-oh-en: sounds about right
[09:22] <jay-oh-en> Slart: ill tell you hold on
[09:22]  * Slart has 1.5 GB of docs... that's a lot of man-pages
[09:22] <harrison> so how much swap should I have? or is 855M ok?
[09:22] <jay-oh-en> harrison: for a 20gb harddrive thats good
[09:22] <Slart> harrison: 2*RAM... according to most people..
[09:22] <phenom> IRSeekBot: You're gay,, log that..
[09:23] <jay-oh-en> Slart: 15360 is it
[09:23] <Maverique> anyone can tell where ubuntu puts downloaded and installed programms?
[09:23] <harrison> It's funny, I have a super gamming machine upstairs and yet I can't resist messing around on ubuntu :P
[09:23] <nhorning> hey, I need help here with acpi and usb
[09:23] <Slart> Maverique: all over the place.. why are you asking?
[09:23] <Maverique> i want to make partions
[09:23] <nhorning> I have an Asus m2a-vm motherboard
[09:23] <nhorning> anybody know about that?
[09:23] <jay-oh-en> Slart: when im done you tell me if this sounds about right
[09:24] <Slart> Maverique: oh.. /usr mostly
[09:24] <Maverique> want the programms have a bit biger one
[09:24] <Slart> jay-oh-en: ok
[09:24] <Maverique> ok
[09:24] <jay-oh-en> Slart: should any of this be different from logical or primary?
[09:24] <Maverique> well i am going to replace win2k with ubuntu
[09:24] <rocco> ok
[09:24] <Slart> jay-oh-en: nope.. go with primary unless you need more than 4 partitions
[09:24] <rocco> Slart, w says 2 users are logged in
[09:24] <jay-oh-en> Slart: i have 3
[09:25] <rocco> but underneath only shows one
[09:25] <harrison> is there anyway to tweek ubuntu for speed?
[09:25] <harrison> so far I've enables FW and SB on the AGP card....
[09:25] <Slart> rocco: yes.. it does that.. I have no idea why..
[09:25] <jay-oh-en> Slart: how do i print screen in xubuntu
[09:25] <nhorning> does anybody know about boot options?
[09:25] <Maverique> does ubuntu 32bit support an Celeron D processor correctly?
[09:26] <rocco> Slart, is it a phantom-user for a process?
[09:26] <Anubis_be> hey, is there anyone here who is good at bash scripting?
[09:26] <Slart> jay-oh-en: I don't know about xubuntu.. isn't there some application ?
[09:26] <nhorning> I'm trying to boot up without disabling USB
[09:26] <Slart> rocco: your guess is as good as mine..
[09:26] <jay-oh-en> Slart: no thats what i said is there one i should install?
[09:26] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, i've done a fair bit of scripting
[09:26] <rocco> Slart, nothing to worry about?
[09:26] <misslecommander> lol dont try to shut your card down while on IRC
[09:26] <nhorning> I have to turn off Acpi to boot
[09:26] <olaff> hey all, got an issue when if i run update manager, it hangs after i say install updates..its asif its waiting for a password but doesnt bring up the dialogue box
[09:26] <nhorning> and when I do USB is gone?
[09:26] <olaff> anyone had this? or know a solution?
[09:26] <harrison> why to you need ACPI off?
[09:26] <nhorning> is there anyway to just turn off the acpi without turning off the USB?
[09:27] <Anubis_be> randomwalker I have 2 files with text in it (not in the same format) and I need to compare those 2 files for matching words, any advice?
[09:27] <Slart> jay-oh-en: search in synaptic for screenshot
[09:27] <olaff> i end up having to kill the process
[09:27] <randomwalker> Anubis_be: diff no good?
[09:27] <nhorning> so uh, nobody eh?
[09:27] <harrison> I've made my own linux
[09:27] <Anubis_be> randomwalker hmmm gonna give it a try
[09:28] <harrison> gtg
[09:28] <TheLynx> regarding the flash player 9 for amd64 linux (with nspluginwrapper install script - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924). what script should I choose? r115 or the r48 plugin? running gutsy on a amd64
[09:28] <harrison> BYe people of Linux, may the LInux revolution of gaming arrive
[09:29] <harrison> :P
[09:29] <misslecommander> this channel is addicting, i gather so much information, i cant stop
[09:29] <jay-oh-en> Slart: is there aptitude?
[09:30] <LurkersA> TheLynx: have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[09:30] <acrobat2> anyone know why after downloading and installation of ubuntu updates the desktop goes all weird and is really slow to load up again ?
[09:30] <Slart> jay-oh-en: aptitude works too
[09:30] <kr00l> how do i install compiz themes?
[09:30] <jay-oh-en> Slart: i thought gnome wouldnt have it
[09:31] <Slart> jay-oh-en: if you install it, it's there.. I don't think it's installed by default
[09:31] <Anubis_be> randomwalker isn't diff to show me all what is different ?
[09:31] <Decinoge> i've started to use ubuntu because i felt in love with gnome-terminal
[09:31] <jay-oh-en> Slart: thats what i meant
[09:31] <rindolf> Hi all! How do I disable X (GDM/KDM) on startup on Gutsy?
[09:31] <jay-oh-en> Slart: im on live cd i want to use whats here
[09:31] <TheLynx> LurkersA: ah, thanks
[09:31] <LurkersA> TheLynx: No problem
[09:32] <Slart> jay-oh-en: then I guess synaptic is what you get
[09:32] <Decinoge> but i'm not able to config all the fonts i want to display
[09:32] <Anubis_be> randomwalker I used diff -i -E -b -w agents badguys  but I get the whole 2 files in my output :s
[09:32] <Slart> jay-oh-en: you can install stuff even if you're using the live cd.. as long as you're connected to internet
[09:33] <randomwalker> Anubis_be: hmm so the matching bits are pretty sparse
[09:33] <misslecommander> test
[09:33] <acrobat2> what in the updates would have crashed my installation of ubuntu ?
[09:34] <Anubis_be> randomwalker file one is and adress list, and file 2 also an adress list but completly other formatted (file 1 is sql output file2 is a list)
[09:34] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, oh, it might be best to convert them to the same format then
[09:35] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, can you pastebin snippets of both files
[09:35] <SteamMachine> I'm trying to use VLC as my default media player under ubuntu linux.
[09:35] <Anubis_be> randomwalker ok doing it now
[09:35] <parthan> Anubis_be, try asking the same in #bash
[09:35] <SteamMachine> How might I do this?
[09:35] <Bokja> how to install windows on the second paartition
[09:35] <Bokja> is it possible
[09:36] <Bokja> ?
[09:36] <parthan> SteamMachine, right click on the file, select open with, choose other and select VLC, there will be a box "use this for opening files of the same type" check that one
[09:37] <parthan> SteamMachine, or go to system-->preferences-->preferred applications-->multimedia tab
[09:37] <sahil_> hi i have a few systems that are identical in every way i'd like to clone an ubuntu install i have on one to all of them-the only thought i had was dd the hd onto the others but that seems tedious any other ideas?
[09:38] <Anubis_be> randomwalker http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52238/
[09:38] <dgjones> !cloning | sahil_
[09:38] <ubotu> sahil_: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[09:38] <sahil_> dgjones:its a little more complicated-these are the oem-prepared ones
[09:38] <Anubis_be> parthan why? only here are people nice enough to help others!
[09:38] <sahil_> so i want to leave at the state for the first user login
[09:38] <sahil_> !automate
[09:39] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[09:39] <parthan> Anubis_be, your question has more relevance to bash than to just ubuntu
[09:39] <sahil_> i think i might have to dd
[09:40] <dgjones> sahil_, not sure what to suggest, dd might be your best option, there's probably some other app that you could use, but i can't think of anything off the top of my head
[09:40] <sahil_> dgjones:real quick how would i dd an entire hd to another?
[09:40] <sahil_> like the command
[09:41] <dgjones> sahil_, i'm not an expert with dd, i only had to use it once and I ended up having to ask in here
[09:41] <Jambon_> hello all. I've managed to butcher my resolution again.  I tried to tell the screen and graphics manager what my external monitor was and I've been booted to 800x600 land
[09:42] <Jambon_> is there anything I can do to go back to regular resolution? Even if I still have to deal with my laptop screen turning on all the time (it's broken) I'll deal as long as I get back to 1024x768
[09:43] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, converting the first file to the second format sounds better. do you write any perl?
[09:44] <zetheroo> what is it with Atheros wifi cards loosing their range by up to 20% with Ubuntu ?
[09:46] <Guza> hi
[09:46] <Guza> how can i setup tv output
[09:46] <Guza> on ati graphic card
[09:47] <Guza> i use kubuntu 7.10
[09:47] <Guza> and ati x600
[09:47] <kost_> Hello, I installed wine.. And now I should just go and insert CD?? Or i have to create 2 libraries libwine-gl libwine-alsa and actually HOW to create them?
[09:48] <Guza> is possible to setup this ???
[09:48] <Anubis_be> randomwalker cough euhm perl I can write "hello world" :)
[09:48] <zetheroo> anyone?
[09:48] <kost_> Damn, noone expert in here >.<
[09:49] <zetheroo> what is it with Atheros wifi cards loosing their range by up to 20% with Ubuntu ?
[09:49] <Anubis_be> kost_ sudo apt-get install wine
[09:49] <kost_> Anubis, I have already installed wine..
[09:49] <yudigadget> is there cctv software on ubuntu/linux ?
[09:49] <azrael_> hello
[09:50] <Anubis_be> kost_ I think you also need to run wineconfig or so
[09:50] <Guza> can someone answer yes or no ???
[09:50] <Anubis_be> kost_ I am now on a fedora machine so don't know for sure (at home all the way ubunutu/debian
[09:50] <kost_> Anubis, Ok I launched it and now there is a GUI.. WIth some tabs etc.. O_o
[09:51] <kost_> Anubis_be, The thing is that I need to create 2 libraries and I dont know how >.,
[09:51] <dgjones> zetheroo, i find my atheros wifi gets better signal with ubuntu than it was getting with windows
[09:51] <Jambon_> anyone? resolution problems?
[09:51] <Kanedacorp> Hi all, I'm using Ubuntu but I want to install a package which is apparently in the Kubuntu official package repository, is there a way to install that on ubuntu?
[09:51] <misslecommander> my Linksys gets same signal both
[09:52] <zetheroo> dgjones: and you are just using the bundled driver?
[09:52] <azrael_> i got a real noob question, i downloaded a file to install quake4 onto my desktop, i can't copy and paste it into the /usr/local/games/quake4 directory like i need to, so what would be my command line in the terminal to move my quake installer to the right directory
[09:52] <kost_> !libraries
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libraries - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <kost_> !library
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about library - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, ok.. you're going to need to look up regexes. it's not too hard, but it'll take an hour or two
[09:52] <fanat1k> Hi all. I need help with latest OpenOffice and Ubuntu 7.10. I've download rpm's, generate deb's, install it. But know I can't find it. Like there is no office on computer... I wanna open *.xls document, but I can't...
[09:52] <dgjones> zetheroo, yes, works from straight install
[09:52] <Kanedacorp> azrael_: sudo cp /where/the/file/is /usr/local/games/quake4 I think
[09:53] <zetheroo> dgjones: well I have 4 clients with laptops with the Atheros chipset adn they all have the same issue... lower range
[09:53] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, you'll need a script that goes like this perl -ne 'if (/REGEX/) {print "[\n$1\n$2\n$3\n$4\n]\n"}'
[09:53] <LtBrenton> Hey...Having some issues with recording audio in Feisty (tried the usual suspects, no luck (USB audio))
[09:53] <misslecommander> zetheroo : could it be a power management issue ?
[09:53] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, basically you capture the 4 fields with regexes and spit them out in a different format
[09:54] <misslecommander> maybe there is a way you can stop it from trying to save power
[09:54] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, feel you can handle that?
[09:54] <Anubis_be> randomwalker are you still here a bit later? I will try it
[09:54] <randomwalker> Anubis_be, yeah, i should be
[09:54] <zetheroo> misslecommander: you mean the card saving power?
[09:54] <dgjones> zetheroo, strange, my atheros gets the best signal on ubuntu from any machine in the house, other ones are a Broadcom 4306 and Intel Wifi, always constantly over 80%, wheras windows was about 75% before it got deleted
[09:54] <kost_> How can I create libraries??
[09:55] <misslecommander> Zeth : yes
[09:55] <Anubis_be> randomwalker ok will give it a try
[09:55] <Anubis_be> kost_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine look here
[09:55] <LtBrenton> Basically, I think I've got sample rate problems but no matter what I set in JACK it comes out unusable
[09:55] <LtBrenton> It records from the card fine, but it's way higher pitched than it should be
[09:56] <zetheroo> misslecommander: can you help me with that?
[09:56] <nhorning> can I get some help?
[09:56] <misslecommander> kost_ : i thought i needed to do that too, but i just download them from the ubuntu site.
[09:56] <LtBrenton> basically I record myself and when I play back I sound like I've been huffing helium -_-
[09:56] <zetheroo> dgjones: whats your machine?
[09:57] <azrael_> Kanedacorp azrael@azrael-desktop:~$ sudo cp ~quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run /usr/local/games/quake4
[09:57] <azrael_> cp: cannot stat `~quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run': No such file or directory
[09:57] <dgjones> zetheroo, its an old Dell Inspiron 8100, the wifi is a pcmcia rt2500, that could be the difference that its not built in
[09:57] <Tyczek> do you experience problems with connecting into checkgmail?
[09:57] <azrael_> it said it doesn't exsist which is messin with me
[09:57] <zetheroo> dgjones: oh .... yeah thats it... I am dealing with Mini PCI cards
[09:57] <kost_> misslecommander, what you mean bro?
[09:57] <misslecommander> well now i know i cant press that button
[09:58] <LtBrenton> anyone free to help out with a Feisty audio recording issue?
[09:58] <erUSUL> azrael_: chmod +x quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run and then sudo ./quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run  asuming you are on the same dir as the quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run file is
[09:59] <kost_> how to uninstall wine? i want to do it from the beggining xD
[09:59] <misslecommander> kost_ : there is a way to configure them to be downloaded in Synaptic Package Manager, using the settings for internet downloads in Software Sources. the ubuntu site also has a way you can download most any library, but that way is harder
[09:59] <azrael_> azrael@azrael-desktop:~$ chmod +x quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
[09:59] <azrael_> chmod: cannot access `quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run': No such file or directory
[09:59] <azrael_> im real new to terminal commands
[09:59] <misslecommander> i am new, so i am only telling you how i did it, or seemed to have done it
[09:59] <erUSUL> azrael_: where did yu dled the file?
[09:59] <kost_> misslecommander, mhm, so?? Can you explain me what to do please?
[09:59] <LtBrenton> anyone free to help out with a Feisty audio recording issue?
[10:00] <azrael_> ID softare ftp
[10:00] <misslecommander> pidgin keeps dimping my connection to IRC
[10:00] <erUSUL> azrael_: but where in your computer did you copied the file?
[10:00] <azrael_> its something so i can run the installer for quake4
[10:00] <azrael_> desktoop
[10:00] <erUSUL> misslecommander: use a real irc client like xchat
[10:00] <misslecommander> lol
[10:01] <erUSUL> azrael_: then first do «cd Desktop»
[10:01] <misslecommander> erUSUL : last time i did that, it asked me to do some command like xxxx -f and it erased my ubuntu install
[10:01] <dgjones> misslecommander, as erUSUL says, try using xchat from synaptic, thats a good irc client
[10:01] <zetheroo> misslecommander: any idea how to deal with the power saving
[10:01] <zetheroo> ?
[10:01]  * LtBrenton is seriously close to reformatting and installing Windows >_<
[10:02] <misslecommander> i tried to install xchat, i use it in windows, but this one works, so i am not chancing another re-install
[10:02] <azrael_> azrael@azrael-desktop:~$ chmod +x quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
[10:02] <azrael_> chmod: cannot access `quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run': No such file or directory
[10:02] <azrael_> azrael@azrael-desktop:~$ cd desktop
[10:02] <azrael_> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[10:02] <IrishDave> hey, im trying to install 32-bit matlab in 64-bit gutsy, but the installer is complaining about missing things, is there anyway to get by it?
[10:02] <azrael_> there we go
[10:03] <misslecommander> Zeth : i can only speak of windows style, but i know you can change the way it works on power save in Linux.
[10:03] <dgjones> misslecommander, now you've got web access, its simple to do, you just open synaptic, search for xchat, tell it to install and click apply, thats all, it does everything for you
[10:03] <LtBrenton> azrael_: cd Desktop
[10:03] <LtBrenton> not desktop
[10:03] <IrishDave> http://pastebin.com/m5d9f64e4 is the error i get
[10:03] <LtBrenton> case sensitive ;)
[10:03] <misslecommander> Zeth : someone else will probably help you much better
[10:03] <zetheroo> is it possible for me to install the KDE network manager in Ubuntu?
[10:03] <azrael_> ahh
[10:03] <LtBrenton> azrael_: actually, paste this...
[10:03] <kost_> !paste
[10:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:04] <misslecommander> LtBrandon L i found out about the case-sensitive directories and filenames the hard way
[10:04] <Clockwell> hello everyone. i am looking for a linux distro for development. as such it should feature the most recent versions of fundamental software such as svn. considering ubuntu, how do i check in advance what the most recent version of its svn package(s) is?
[10:04] <LtBrenton> azrael_: chmod +x /home/azrael/Desktop/quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run && sh /home/azrael/Desktop/quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run
[10:04] <erUSUL> azrael_: is Desktop with capital D
[10:04] <LtBrenton> azrael_: just paste that, it should chmod +x it and run it
[10:05] <abhijeet> hi guys i am unable to use sound on mu ubuntu distro
[10:05] <kost_> Someone check this please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52240/ <= What I did in order to get the libraries.. Is it correct?
[10:05] <LtBrenton> abhijeet: /msg ubotu !sound
[10:05] <abhijeet> i have a nvidia 610i video with realtek hd audio
[10:05] <azrael_> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 1c30fe269bbfeb8cdd57eceb6a930501 is different from 3838acf174131d21b16045efa2b599fd
[10:05] <azrael_> it must of downloaded messed up
[10:05] <LtBrenton> azrael_: redownload it :P
[10:05] <Flannel> kost_: what are you trying to do, ultimately?
[10:05] <azrael_> thanks though, thats helped big time
[10:06] <LtBrenton> azrael_: no problem man. *nix geeks stick together XD
[10:06] <kost_> Flannel, Get 2 libraries for wine in order to have graphics and OpenGL sound.. So I can go on installing warcraft 3 T_T
[10:06] <misslecommander> azreal : just seeing you being helped is helping me
[10:06] <Flannel> kost_: Ah.  You... should ask in #winehq they'll know for sure
[10:06] <misslecommander> this channel is so useful
[10:06] <kost_> Flannel, ok thx buddy ;)
[10:06] <LtBrenton> now....
[10:07] <LtBrenton> CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME FIX MY USB AUDIO CARD SO I DON'T RECORD MYSELF ON HELIUM ANYMORE *RAAAARGH* *tears hair out* *more exasperated actions here*
[10:07] <LtBrenton> :P
[10:07] <misslecommander> i take notes on things i may need all the while i am here
[10:08] <kost_> Damn, noone is non-idle in #winehq >.<
[10:09] <kost_> Flannel, and everyone actually, what should I use like Beryl etc? I used to view some youtube videos :p
[10:09] <LtBrenton> azrael_: you wouldn't happen to have fixed a recording bug with a USB audio card before would ya? :P
[10:09] <misslecommander> i had a problem streaming audio on the net, what streams are allowed by default in firefox/ubuntu?
[10:09] <azrael_> i just copied down the command so when i download file again I'm good to go, I'm using Ubuntu studios in hope of ditching windows, finally got hardware to work
[10:10] <azrael_> learn as i go i hope
[10:10] <azrael_> thanks guiys
[10:10] <misslecommander> i dont like real player at all, but i may need to use it
[10:10] <misslecommander> azreal : thats what i have been doing, things make more sense each time i come here
[10:11] <LtBrenton> Hey...Having some issues with recording audio in Feisty (tried the usual suspects, no luck (USB audio))
[10:11] <LtBrenton> basically I record myself and when I play back I sound like I've been huffing helium -_-
[10:11] <misslecommander> USB audio card ?
[10:11] <LtBrenton> yes
[10:11] <LtBrenton> Audigy 2NX
[10:11] <misslecommander> didnt know they made them
[10:12] <misslecommander> oh yes, i have heard of audigy CL ?
[10:12] <LtBrenton> Alternative solution would be for someone to tell me how to fix my HDA Intel so the recordings aren't just noise
[10:12] <lostxion> anyone know how i would unlock my default key ring?
[10:12] <misslecommander> i got lucky, my audio worked first time, even during live-cd
[10:13] <LtBrenton> misslecommander: it PLAYS fine
[10:13] <LtBrenton> misslecommander: it just won't RECORD right
[10:13] <misslecommander> double0click the icon near your clock
[10:14] <misslecommander> maybe something simple like line input not selected or volume control too low
[10:14] <LtBrenton> misslecommander: tried all the usual suspects ;)
[10:14] <bullgard4> I have read 'man telinit' but not understood in what situation one would instruct 'telinit 2'.
[10:14] <misslecommander> was my first thought
[10:14] <robinsjostrom> if i want a command to run at startup, in what file should i put the command?
[10:14] <LtBrenton> misslecommander: it recognizes, and the meters bounce. but with my USB audio card, it records higher pitched than it should
[10:15] <LtBrenton> misslecommander: and with my intel HD, it's just distorted and completely unusable
[10:15] <misslecommander> ltB : pitch ? volume level ?
[10:15] <Avenger_> Someone here already used imapsync?
[10:15] <misslecommander> oh yes you said helium
[10:15] <LtBrenton> :P
[10:15] <Avenger_> i can't migrate the "Sent" box
[10:15] <misslecommander> very unusal, i never heard a card do that
[10:16] <Jambon_> how do I reset the graphics settings? I tried to change my monitor preferences and I've gunked the whole affair
[10:16] <misslecommander> maybe the settings for the USB itself,
[10:16] <LtBrenton> misslecommander: yes. i'm recording through JACK, but when I record through ALSA it does the same
[10:16] <robinsjostrom> if i want a command to run at startup, in what file should i put the command?´
[10:16] <bullgard4> robinsjostrom: System > Preferences > Sessions > Start Programs > Add
[10:16] <misslecommander> ltbrandon: i have same alsa, i dont have mic, so i cant tell you if mine does the same
[10:17] <misslecommander> bullguard L thats great i wondered about that too
[10:17]  * LtBrenton boots his ubuntu rig up
[10:17] <krabador> someone can help me with an audio problem?
[10:18] <LtBrenton> krabador: if you're getting recording trouble, welcome to the club ;)
[10:18] <krabador> mmm
[10:18] <misslecommander> lol
[10:18] <krabador> not properly...
[10:18] <krabador> :)
[10:18] <LtBrenton> which one is it
[10:18] <krabador> i cant' hear anithing....
[10:18] <LtBrenton> HDA Intel sounding like shit?
[10:18] <misslecommander> i have no recoding issues, but then, i am not recording neither
[10:18] <LtBrenton> or USB audio sounding like helium
[10:18] <LtBrenton> :P
[10:19] <misslecommander> lol
[10:19] <bullgard4> !sound | krabador
[10:19] <ubotu> krabador: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:19] <krabador> i've a via integrated audio board
[10:19] <misslecommander> uboto stole that first fix from me :P
[10:19] <krabador> if i select in audio menu
[10:19] <krabador> i can hear audio with exaile
[10:19] <krabador> but not with amarok-xine
[10:20] <krabador> if i select alsa
[10:20] <Jambon_> anyone good with configuring multiple monitors? or at least with resetting the graphics settings back to normal?
[10:20] <krabador> i cant hear anithing
[10:20] <LtBrenton> krabador: do you have more than one sound card installed?
[10:20] <krabador> with nothing
[10:20] <krabador> yes
[10:20] <jacquesmerde> is it safe to remove an external harddrive after unmounting the drive from the desktop, but still leaving the /dev node there?
[10:20] <krabador> ltbrenton: yes
[10:20] <LtBrenton> krabador: sudo nano -w /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[10:21] <LtBrenton> krabador: am I right in thinking you're trying to play through your second card?
[10:21] <LtBrenton> not your first one?
[10:21] <LtBrenton> sounds like the wrong sound card's jumping on hw:0 ;)
[10:22] <dv> anyone know what the command is to display the "Quit..." menu (i.e. log out, switch user, reboot)
[10:22] <krabador> ltbrenton: in what menu?
[10:22] <LtBrenton> krabador: terminal.
[10:22] <LtBrenton> krabador: am I right in thinking that the sound card you want to play through is your second card? (not your onboard card)
[10:23] <krabador> ltbrenton
[10:23] <LtBrenton> yeah?
[10:23] <krabador> ltbrenton: i'm trying to play with sonboard card...
[10:23] <misslecommander> dv : top right of your screen, near clock, button to click
[10:23] <kost_> Guys. why when i try to run this command "kost@kost-desktop:~$ mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[10:23] <kost_> mount: only root can do that
[10:23] <kost_> " I get this reply??
[10:23] <LtBrenton> krabador: hmm...
[10:24] <LtBrenton> krabador: try plugging your speakers into your second card, see if everything suddenly works
[10:24] <dv> misslecommander: that's not a console command is it
[10:24] <krabador> ltbrenton: but otherways was allright
[10:24] <krabador> ltbrenton: i try
[10:24] <misslecommander> no it is not
 Guys. why when i try to run this command "kost@kost-desktop:~$ mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
 mount: only root can do that
 " I get this reply??
[10:25] <erUSUL> kost_: use sudo  mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[10:25] <erUSUL> !sudo | kost_
[10:25] <ubotu> kost_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:25] <dv> or eject and insert the cd again
[10:25] <kost_> erUSUL, I see, very good thx
[10:25] <LtBrenton> krabador: any luck?
[10:25] <krabador> ltbrenton: now i plug ....
[10:25] <krabador>  :)
[10:26] <J-_> My friend is running an AMD Turion 64 x2 Dual core but running in 32bit, what disc should he download?
[10:26] <zhanx> ok ordering the rest of my new pc.. any must haves that i might not know about besides cpu/mobo/mem/vid/hd's/ replacing my desktop which is an abit bp6 duel celeron board
[10:27] <J-_> disc as in Ubuntu disc.
[10:27] <bullgard4> I have read 'man telinit' but not understood in what situation one would instruct 'telinit 2'.
[10:27] <misslecommander> ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso for 32 bit version
[10:27] <dgjones> J-_, if he just wants normal 32 bit ubuntu, he just needs the standard Desktop LiveCD
[10:28] <erUSUL> J-_: fresh install?
[10:28] <Jambon_> dual monitor fiasco anyone?
[10:28] <J-_> erUSUL, dgjones he's going to be running it in Virtual PC
[10:28] <J-_> or WM
[10:28] <J-_> something like that.
[10:28] <misslecommander> most people i see, use 32 bit version, the 64 bit version has probs
[10:29] <erUSUL> J-_: then the normal Desktop CD 32 bits is anough
[10:29] <rocco> Slart, I think I found out why it reads as 2 users
[10:29] <[blackb]> hi all i have same probem with nfs service
[10:29] <[blackb]> *problem
[10:29] <rocco> logging out of tty1 doesn't clean up utmp properly
[10:29] <J-_> okay, I didn't know becuase it's an amd, and the "standard" option doesn't have amd there. Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)
[10:30] <misslecommander> j;_ : i have amd64 and i run ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso 32bit
[10:30] <[blackb]> during loading the filesystem into another machine the server nfs respondig:nfs:server XXXX not responding,still tryng
[10:31] <[blackb]> and another time it says nfs: server XXXX OK
[10:31] <[blackb]> i post it on ubuntu ML but anyone could explain the problem
[10:32] <[blackb]> possible BUG?
[10:33] <Guy> anyone know how to make ftp store a whole directory and its contents?
[10:33] <Guy> from the command line, that is
[10:33] <Hewus> hi guys. I think I viewed a corrupted video file, and the display went all these pretty colours (pink/green). Now whenever I play a video, even perfectly fine ones, I still get that corrupted video with the colours. I logged out and back in earlier which fixed it, but I've done it again now and I'd prefer not to have to log out atm. Does anyone know the service or whatever that I could restart to fix it? Happens in everything: tote
[10:33] <Hewus> m, vlc, mplayer
[10:35] <LtBrenton> Hmm, I fixed it, kinda
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:37] <misslecommander> hello
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> hi misslecommander
[10:38] <misslecommander> whats best for streaming audio, windows media player seems to not work as Firefox plugin ?
[10:39] <misslecommander> VLC player do that ?
[10:39] <johnny_> hi folks, anybody here missing the volume control applet?
[10:39] <johnny_> i've seen issues with it, but it had to do with the icon theme
[10:39] <glassface> I'm trying to install oracle 9i on my ubuntu 7.10 box.  I tried almost all howtos. no use.
[10:39] <johnny_> i don't even have it in the "Add to Panel" dialog
[10:39] <glassface> i followed even https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Oracle9i
[10:39] <glassface> no use, can any one have an idea of installing 9i on ubuntu
[10:39] <johnny_> glassface, you're not going to get much help on anything that technical here sadly
[10:39] <johnny_> it's mostly n00bs
[10:40] <johnny_> you should try on the oracle specific  chats
[10:40] <misslecommander> lol
[10:40] <glassface> johnny_; oh too sad.
[10:40] <johnny_> unless there is an ubuntu server channel now
[10:40] <glassface> i'm expecting some one who had resolved the same problem
[10:40] <johnny_> try there maybe?
[10:40] <johnny_> no.. this is for  folks who are still learning linux mostly
[10:40] <ikonia> glassface: what is the problem ?
[10:40] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server
[10:40] <johnny_> of course you will run into some folks :)
[10:41] <ikonia> glassface: I joined after your question
[10:41] <johnny_> it's just not expecting :)
[10:41] <glassface> ok
[10:41] <glassface> I'm trying to install oracle 9i on my ubuntu 7.10 box.  I tried almost all howtos. no use.
[10:41] <johnny_> you will get best help from oracle specialists for sure
[10:41] <Away> I need help
[10:41] <glassface> ikonia; the installer is stopping at 0%, with link pending message
[10:41] <Hewus> Anyone know what I have to do to restart my broken video? It normally fixes with a logout but I can't logout atm.
[10:41] <Away> I need to install compiler on my root how
[10:42] <ikonia> glassface: well, I can pause you there for a moment, there are compatability issues between Oracle 10 and ubuntu 7.10 in general things like java for the installer, glibc is a bit too new, etc. I would assume the same would be true of Oracle 9 if 10 is having issues
[10:42] <ikonia> Away: what do you want to compile
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> !gcc | Away
[10:42] <ubotu> Away: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[10:42] <glassface> yes, there is a jre issue with that one, but i managed to pass that one.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Away, are you compiling C code?
[10:42] <ikonia> glassface: Oracle does not support ubuntu as a supported platform, one of the reasons was the 6 month release cycle is too fast to keep up with
[10:42] <Away> U may want to take a look at this
[10:42] <Away> http://pastebin.com/d48e882bd
[10:43] <johnny_> so, anybody here here have that volume control issue?
[10:43] <johnny_> but not related to the icon theme
[10:43] <ikonia> Away: thats not an ubuntu box
[10:43] <mavi-> volume control is broken in many many ways
[10:43] <ikonia> Away: please take that to an appropriate channel
[10:43] <zt34528> Away: this is a *ubuntu* specific channel
[10:43] <glassface> ha, i had tried on rhel4 too, but no use with that one also.  and more over i'm interested in ubuntu.
[10:44] <mavi-> like, mute all sounds and flash-movies will still do sounds
[10:44] <ikonia> glassface: RHEL4 and 5 are supported platforms.
[10:44] <glassface> ikonia; so where shud i ask my question ?
[10:44] <misslecommander> will VLC player replace what Media Player is not playing in Firefox ?
[10:44] <jimcooncat> with gnome, can I add a menu extension or panel widget that will show my files? Like the Places menu, only I can drill down through the filesystem?
[10:44] <ikonia> glassface: in #oracle I guess, but you won't get much help and certainly no official support as ubuntu is not a supported platform and it does have known compatability issues
[10:44] <mavi-> jimcooncat: you want it on the panel?
[10:45] <mavi-> jimcooncat: or just the file browser?
[10:45] <rocco> Slart, just FYI https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/183729
[10:45] <jimcooncat> mavi-: I'd like not to have to open the file browser just to get to a single file
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> misslecommander, what you trying to play?
[10:45] <glassface> ok. will try there.  i thought some one here had challenged it already.  any how thanks for your concern.
[10:45] <johnny_> mavi-, nowhere but my ubuntu box at work :)
[10:45] <johnny_> it works fine on my desktop machine (gentoo) and mine and my gf's ubuntu laptops :)
[10:45] <misslecommander> ActionParsnip : audio streams , like radio streaming on the net
[10:46] <johnny_> it's just broken on this machine somehow
[10:46] <Slart> rocco: ah.. thanks for the info.. interesting
[10:46] <mavi-> jimcooncat: i dont think there are such a file browser, but the deskbar let you search for files and open them without file manager
[10:46] <misslecommander> PodCast's and such as live streaming radio
[10:46] <branstrom> Any way to regenerate the /etc/motd from motd.tail, without rebooting?
[10:47] <jimcooncat> mavi-: thanks, that will work for me
[10:47] <misslecommander> i am afraid to break Firefox lol
[10:47] <mavi-> jimcooncat: just rightklick the panel and "add to panel" then deskbar
[10:47] <ikonia> misslecommander: audtio streaming servers have nothing to do with firefox, you'll be fine
[10:47] <zoli2k> Hi! In evolution mail client I received a zip file from an old outlook client. The attachment contains some nonsense chain of ascii characters. How can I convert this to a working ZIP? any ideas?
[10:47] <mavi-> Jinx: then rightclick the deskbar-icon to get some more settings, it can search alot of places not just your files
[10:47] <mavi-> Jinx: nm
[10:47] <Sean> hi
[10:48] <misslecommander> ikonia : i have places i would normally go to stream radio, but, i was using windows media player
[10:48] <ali_sodiq> fhfhf
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> misslecommander, do you mean asx files?
[10:48] <misslecommander> yes
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> misslecommander, theres a player for them. Gimme a sec
[10:48] <misslecommander> when i try to play them, i get no sound, and the player stops
[10:48] <misslecommander> Action : thank you
[10:49] <mavi-> misslecommander: try the mplayer mozilla plugin, that works great for me.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> misslecommander, http://vntutor.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-play-asx-files-under-firefox.html
[10:49] <misslecommander> mavi : i was looking at that, and have it in repository list, but wasnt sure it would work
[10:49] <misslecommander> Action : thank you
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> misslecommander, np dude
[10:50] <krabador> LtBrenton?
[10:50] <mavi-> this is so silly
[10:50] <Cin> so i'm on gutsy
[10:51] <Cin> i hit Win+R
[10:51] <mavi-> why doesnt the volume applet mute all sounds when you mute
[10:51] <Cin> and it zoomed in
[10:51] <Cin> how do i zoom out?
[10:51] <mavi-> Cin: win + mousewheel to zoom in/out
[10:51] <krabador> LtBrenton?
[10:51] <Cin> mavi-: ahh, cheers
[10:51] <ikonia> krabador: do you have a question, or is there a reason you keep saying that
[10:52] <johnny_> krabador, the person will get back to you
[10:52] <johnny_> once is enough
[10:52] <rocco> Slart, hehe np, I thoght I'd do a little digging....it was worrying me
[10:52] <rocco> ;)
[10:52] <johnny_> uggh.. some people really remind me why i don't come to #ubuntu
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> krabador, wassup?
[10:53] <krabador> ikonia: simply i'm searching an user who helpem me 10 minute ago
[10:53] <johnny_> please don't ping folks directly
[10:53] <johnny_> it's bad nettiquette
[10:53] <johnny_> eventually you'll irritate them and they will put you on ignore
[10:53] <krabador> right
[10:53] <misslecommander> says i have "Broken Packages"
[10:53] <krabador> :)
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> johnny_, or attack back :)
[10:53] <johnny_> lol.. hopefully they won't escalate
[10:54] <mamour> bonjour ,quel est le salon "ubuntu français "? SVP
[10:54] <Flannel> !fr | mamour
[10:54] <ubotu> mamour: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:54] <misslecommander> says i have "Broken Packages"
[10:54] <Slart> rocco: yea.. seeing lots of users logged on to your home desktop can keep you up all night =)
[10:54] <rocco> indeed
[10:54] <rocco> it happens for every tty too
[10:54] <misslecommander> i will try it from Synaptic
[10:54] <mamour> merci Flannel...
[10:54] <rocco> so if you log into tty 1-6
[10:54] <rocco> and then log out of all of them
[10:54] <rocco> and do a w
[10:54] <rocco> you'd get 6 users logged in
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> misslecommander, which package is broken?
[10:55] <johnny_> try sudo apt-get install -f
[10:55] <bullgard4> I have read 'man telinit' but not understood in what situation one would instruct 'telinit 2'.
[10:55] <johnny_> that usually fixes problems
[10:55] <Slart> rocco: well.. the w command isn't really system critical.. but I wonder if there's anything else using that utmp info
[10:55] <zt34528> bullgard4: telinit 2 tells init to change to runlevel 2
[10:55] <zt34528> bullgard4: if you are already in runlevel 2, it's pointless
[10:56] <rocco> Slart, it's not system critical, but.....
[10:56] <rocco> it can sure worry the heck out of a sysadmin
[10:56] <bullgard4> zt34528: I know that and I have asked in what situations I might need to to give such an instruction.
[10:57] <Slart> rocco: yes.. indeed.. but now that we know about it it's not really a problem.. more of a nuiscance
[10:58] <rocco> yeh
[10:58] <zt34528> bullgard4: for example if you have defined runlevel 5 as a set of services without sshd and without gdm, you would change to that set of services with telinit 5 (or simply init 5)
[10:59] <imyousuf> Hi. I have a sha1 for a file. E.g. 7d0736f69bec14b8872614bcaee3efbe68af9486  /home/imyousuf/dump-test/test123.dump
[10:59] <bullgard4> zt34528: I see.
[10:59] <imyousuf> how can I later at some point verify using this information whether the file is valid or not?
[11:00] <esperegu> anyone knows some cheap dedicated hardware that can run some opensource NAS?
[11:00] <Slart> imyousuf: calculate the sha1 for the file again at a later time.. if the hashes match it's probably the same file
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> esperegu, most NAS run opensource OS
[11:01] <esperegu> ActionParsnip: u know any cheap ones?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> esperegu, how big do you want?
[11:01] <imyousuf> I see Slart, is there a way to specify the sha1sum to check it instead of me doing it?
[11:01] <Slart> imyousuf: how did you calculate the hash that you have there?
[11:02] <imyousuf> sha1sum /home/imyousuf/dump-test/test123.dump
[11:02] <esperegu> ActionParsnip: Not that big. Just one or 2 disks or so.
[11:02] <gary4gar> i was having problem with wifi, so i filled a bug report, can anyone confirm if BUG #183731 is real?
[11:02] <misslecommander> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:02] <misslecommander>   mozilla-plugin-vlc: Depends: vlc-nox
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> esperegu, how about a 1gb nas?
[11:02] <Slart> imyousuf: look at the manpage for sha1sum... "man sha1sum"
[11:02] <esperegu> ActionParsnip: Of course if it comes cheap with 4 it's also good
[11:02] <gary4gar> !bug #183731
[11:03] <Slart> imyousuf: there's a -c or --check switch
[11:03] <imyousuf> I did, it has a option -c for checking
[11:03] <misslecommander> i tried to install just vlc-nox, but that has its onw problems
[11:03] <imyousuf> but I cld not get it to work Slart
[11:03] <misslecommander> i tried directions from vlc site, just as they said, no luck
[11:03] <Slart> imyousuf: hmmm.. let me try.. be right back
[11:03] <imyousuf> ok Slart
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> esperegu, http://manchesteritservices.securewebstore.co.uk/Inu_products/INU_ProdDetailsL4.asp?ref=28002971
[11:04] <strike> can anyone tell me what is required to make a script that runs? there is one line in it - cat test.txt - and it is chmod 777 but ./testscript gives me permission denied
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> esperegu, you need to be specific with storage capacity that you need
[11:04] <strike> what am i missing
[11:04] <bullgard4> gary4gar: "Installation Gutsy (7.10) with kde4 failed." is real.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> strike, you need #!/bin/bash at the top of it
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> strike, then chmod +x <script name>
[11:05] <gary4gar> bullgard4, this not the bug i reported :o, it was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/183730
[11:06] <Switch^> does anyone know a good gif editor? meaning, I have a gif file, and I want to put subtitles on it
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> strike, helps if its called <script name>.sh too (not essential)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !gimp | Switch^
[11:06] <ubotu> Switch^: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[11:06] <larson9999> ted.com rocks!
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Switch^, it comes as part of a standard install
[11:08] <bullgard4> gary4gar: Bug #183730 does not exist (at the moment) though 183731 and 183729 do exist.
[11:08] <imyousuf> Slart:  I got it to work thanks to Tv in #git :). sha1sum ~/dump-test/test123.dump > /tmp/test123.sha1 && sha1sum -c /tmp/test123.sha1; this works
[11:08] <esperegu> ActionParsnip: ho.. that is expensive. I was hoping for a unit (without disks) for about 50 -150 euro
[11:08] <imyousuf> the sha1 file has the path of the file thus with -c sha1sum knows where to look for the file