[19:33] <Gremlyn> when I am in a terminal and say I'm attempting to cd to another directory, when I tab-complete folders, I end up with a space after the completed folder and I don't think it used to do that, quite annoying as more often than not I tab-complete and want to add something else on the end... any ideas?
[19:33] <Pici> thurstylark: no problem :)
[19:34] <wolftune> hi, on one computer, no network is showing but it worked earlier today help!
[19:34] <OerHeks> Gremlyn, see with ls if you have folders with a space in the name, that would be logical
[19:34] <occ> ikonia, from what i can see from those commands, it is XXXXXX, or occ-XXXXXX, my terminal shows occ@occ-XXXXXX:
[19:35] <newb_> so they created a new bios just for fancy graphics
[19:35] <newb_> :S
[19:35] <wheatthin> newb_, new standards being released, hence the bios replacement
[19:35] <reisio> newb_: partly to assert more control over end users, partly to flaunt features they could sell
[19:35] <reisio> newb_: mostly, yes :p
[19:35] <ikonia> occ: if you do ping occ-XXXXXX does that work ? can you please pastebin your /etc/hosts file too
[19:35] <Gremlyn> OerHeks, it's globally like that, whether there are folders with spaces or not
[19:35] <reisio> apple is kind of big on flash, you may have noticed
[19:35] <wheatthin> even though it isn't highly adopted yet
[19:35] <newb_> was apple one of the first to adapt it?
[19:36] <newb_> its annoying
[19:36] <newb_> I hate apple
[19:36] <newb_> :|
[19:36] <wheatthin> newb_ indeed.. apple is a mighty fine company
[19:36] <wheatthin> it's all the pc's tho that are trying to adapt to it's standards
[19:37] <newb_> when apple products are working great... when they fail its a HUGE problem... seem them cause huge networking issues that take hours to figure out
[19:37] <prahlad> Need ideas to develop apps using python and pygtk ?
[19:37] <reisio> wheatthin: yes... 100% of them...
[19:37] <wheatthin> newb_ they rarely fail tho.
[19:37] <prahlad> Can anyone suggest me ?
[19:37] <ikonia> newb_: 1.) not intersted in apple in this channel 2.) making things up such as "apple causes huge networking issues" isn't really helpful to anyone
[19:37] <reisio> prahlad: one that keeps people from asking such questions on IRC
[19:37] <usr13> occ:    Net error        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[19:38] <prahlad> reisio: nope. seriously...
[19:38] <reisio> prahlad: oh seriously
[19:38] <newb_> ikonia have you dealt with apple servers?
[19:38] <ikonia> prahlad: I'd welcome that app seriously
[19:38] <ikonia> newb_: yes
[19:38] <reisio> prahlad: find something useful that uses pyqt and port it
[19:38] <newb_> :|
[19:38] <prahlad> for example ?
[19:38] <ikonia> prahlad: try asking in #python for example projects
[19:38] <occ> ping: unknown host occ-XXXXXX,  my /etc/hosts is http://pastebin.com/w8VWDUjC    ........ i just copied my hosts file there before these errors, may have something to do with it.... except this is all done via  a script which i have run on this machine and another(i just reformatted them both) before without error
[19:38] <reisio> there aren't that many useful things that only use qt :p
[19:38] <ikonia> occ: ok, we have a winner
[19:39] <reisio> #python will hate the question even more :p
[19:39] <reisio> but they'll take it
[19:39] <occ> whats the winner
[19:39] <ikonia> occ: add an entry for occ-XXXXXX in /etc/hosts and you're problems should go away
[19:39] <ikonia> occ: map it to <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> as you've done with others
[19:39] <occ> ok ill try
[19:40] <wolftune> hi, on one computer, no network is showing but it worked earlier today help!
[19:40] <newb_> argh
[19:40] <Teh_Bucket> wireless or wired?
[19:41] <newb_> okay I am trying to get kali installed on efi
[19:41] <newb_> kali is based on ubuntu
[19:41] <newb_> crap sec
[19:41] <ikonia> newb_: and therefore nothing to do with this channel, so please use the kali support resources
[19:41] <PashaPasta> Kali is not based on ubuntu
[19:41] <PashaPasta> it is built on debian7
[19:41] <wolftune> Teh_Bucket: neither wired nor wireless works
[19:41] <DJones> !kali | newb_
[19:41] <wolftune> on the computer here, I have a wired connection, but no network is recognized
[19:42] <Teh_Bucket> do you have a way to confirm it works outside of ubuntu?
[19:42] <wolftune> the computer worked before, and my other system works
[19:42] <wolftune> I think some setting got messed up
[19:42] <vlt> wolftune: Can you ping the router?
[19:42] <occ> thanks ikonia, that fixed it. i can see in my hosts file my old computer name "st1" i forgot the change..... though i am not sure why my other computer dosn't give an error as i forgot to update that one's host file too
[19:42] <wolftune> Teh_Bucket: it works on the other computer
[19:42] <wolftune> vlt: no I can't ping
[19:43] <ikonia> occ: excellent, well done
[19:43] <occ> thanks
[19:43] <wolftune> vlt: it says "Network is unreachable"
[19:45] <marawan2> hello
[19:46] <marawan2> could someone give me help with the IRC  Xchat gnome
[19:46] <marawan2> how is it used
[19:47] <marianne> ok, officially love you guys! Player is now set up for DVDs and Blu-Rays
[19:50] <wheatthin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[19:50] <wheatthin> not much more we can help with that this site doesn't explain about xchat
[19:51] <ignac865> Question for IRC client (Smuxi). How can I stop the connection messages?
[19:51] <reisio> ignac865: ask #smuxi
[19:51] <DJones> ignac865: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#Smuxi
[19:52] <ignac865> @DJones Thanx
[19:52] <marawan2> #mypaint
[19:52] <wheatthin> marianne, btw I searched google for that site by using "xchat howto" as the search string
[19:52] <marawan2> #libreoffice
[19:54] <wheatthin> marianne, people in here will discourage suggesting the use of google, but it does help when finding factual answers about technical questions
[19:54] <marawan2> #dosbox
[19:55] <reisio> marawan2: yes indeed
[19:55] <DJones> marawan2: You need to put /join in front of the channel name
[19:55] <marawan2> sorry guys
[19:56] <BluesKaj> marawan2, just click on #dosbox
[19:56] <marawan2> i don't know how to join a # thing so i type it here and then click it
[19:56] <wheatthin> marianne, sorry that was for marawan2
[19:56] <marianne> wheatthin: no worries
[19:57] <marianne> wheatthin: I just downloaded the update to smuxi from omgubuntu and it's pretty slick... graphical
[19:57] <marawan2> wheatthin
[19:57] <marawan2> if i say your name in a chat it goes yellow for you
[19:58] <reisio> more like if I say your name
[19:58] <reisio> marawan2: foo
[19:58] <reisio> it probably goes yellow for you :)
[19:59] <wheatthin> marawan2, yup indeed.. sorry for that, I was going to tell you that people in here will discourage using google to search for technical things, but all I did to find the xchat howto was exactly     "xchat howto" in the search string from google.. it sent a link from ubuntu
[20:00] <marawan2> wheatthin: google like magic!
[20:00] <wheatthin> yup :)
[20:00] <wheatthin> reisio, ops are people too dangit :P
[20:00] <reisio> heh
[20:01] <sazawal> I am using Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit. After an update today my system was showing "Some of the packages failed to download" and it was flashplayer-installer and I clicked on "Run this action now". But it was not downloading anything so I closed the terminal. Now my firefox is showing that flashplugin is not installed. Though "flashplayer-installer" and "ubuntu-restricted-extras" are installed in their newest versions. What should I do?
[20:01] <wheatthin> unless you're ubottu
[20:01] <reisio> sazawal: are you experiencing some problem?
[20:01] <sazawal> reisio, yes flash videos are not playing in firefox
[20:02] <wheatthin> sazawal, did you restart the browser?
[20:02] <sazawal> wheatthin, yes :(
[20:02] <wheatthin> sazawal, reinstall
[20:02] <wheatthin> the flashplayer-plugin
[20:03] <sazawal> wheatthin, you mean flashplayer-installer?
[20:03] <wheatthin> sazawal, yeah that stuff
[20:03] <sazawal> wheatthin, let me try this
[20:04] <zipy> hey could someone try my hometorproxy?
[20:05] <wheatthin> zipy, that's an offtopic subject
[20:05] <sazawal> wheatthin, reisio, great its working now. Thank you
[20:05] <reisio> gj
[20:06] <zipy> huh
[20:06] <bsmith0931> i need to merge 2 directory trees, remote to local and not overwrite newer local files.
[20:06] <wheatthin> !ot | zipy
[20:06] <reisio> bsmith0931: #rsync
[20:06] <zipy> yes its running on ubuntu server
[20:06] <bsmith0931> thanks
[20:06] <zipy> i put privoxy and tor on it
[20:06] <zipy> didnt get squi3 to run with it tho :(
[20:07] <zipy> squid
[20:07] <wheatthin> and as long as there's no problem getting it installed, then there's no need for our help, but in offtopic you can ask them
[20:07] <bekks> zipy: Why not?
[20:07] <zipy> dont know, after i did the squid.conf it seems like i couldnt start it anymore
[20:08] <bekks> zipy: What did youi do to the config?
[20:08] <bekks> !details | zipy
[20:09] <zipy> i followed this: http://evilzone.org/anonymity/setup-your-own-proxy-with-squidprivoxytor-on-debian-like-distros-%28tutorial%29/
[20:09] <zipy> everything worked fine
[20:09] <ikonia> the quest for anonymity is just such a waste of time
[20:09] <zipy> until squid3
[20:10] <zipy> well its not only about anonymity
[20:10] <ignac865> What language would you learn for starting to program for linux (I already know Bash Scripting)
[20:10] <zipy> we have some filtered sites
[20:10] <wheatthin> most places like freenode ban tor proxies
[20:10] <zipy> like grooveshark etc
[20:10] <zipy> dont work here
[20:10] <bekks> ignac865: The one that fits your application most.
[20:11] <PashaPasta> hard to go wrong with python or perl
[20:11] <bekks> zipy: And whats not working with your config? You just said: "everything worked fine".
[20:11] <zipy> yes until step nr 10
[20:11] <wheatthin> bekks, until he tried configuring squid
[20:11] <zipy> squid.conf
[20:11] <reisio> ignac865: http://greenteapress.com/thinkpython/thinkpython.html
[20:11] <bekks> PashaPasta: Hard to even go with python or perl. Both are scripting languages.
[20:12] <ignac865> Yeah well, I'm a student I'm learning linux (I used windows). I know java, php, visual basic, and a little ruby, but for day to day purposses I would like to programm in linux
[20:12] <zipy> yes
[20:12] <zipy> hm wait i will config all again
[20:12] <zipy> then i can copy the msg when i want to start squid
[20:12] <ignac865> Python is the one I might I think, I see it on many comments
[20:12] <jrib> ignac865: you can use java, php, and ruby in linux
[20:12] <zipy> will take a while tho xD
[20:12] <reisio> ignac865: ah, probably don't need as introductory as that book I linked is, then
[20:12] <reisio> ignac865: see #python's /topic
[20:12] <bekks> zipy: You couls start to finally tell us whats your actual problem at step 10.
[20:13] <zipy> i will when i see the msg again mom
[20:13] <bekks> ignac865: You could even use c, c++, c#, D, R, etc.
[20:13] <zipy> im running it without squid3 atm
[20:13] <ignac865> And the applications of Ubuntu (I know there is a lot of variety) what language do they use? C++ I guess
[20:14] <reisio> ignac865: lot of variety
[20:14] <bekks> ignac865: They use python, perl, java, c, c++, etc.
[20:14] <reisio> etc.
[20:14] <ignac865> Thanks guys
[20:15] <ignac865> other thing, how do I refer to someone on IRC, @ doesn't work I see
[20:15] <bekks> ignac865: By typing the nickname, followed by a : and your text.
[20:15] <ignac865> Ok right, I got it
[20:15] <DJones> ignac865: Just start typing their nick and then press the tab key
[20:16] <DJones> !tab | ignac865
[20:16] <bekks> ignac865: You can use the tab completion for the nickname, too.
[20:18] <marianne> Hardware question: right now I have a lower end NVidia vid card... i use it mostly for movies and streaming content. I would like to upgrade, but I get lost in all the choices. What are the preferences of the group?
[20:18] <motaka2> I have installed google chrome but I don't know from where I can run it
[20:19] <marianne> motaka2: open your dash and type it in the field
[20:19] <motaka2> marianne: what is dash ?
[20:20] <zipy> ^^
[20:20] <motaka2> marianne: found it thank you
[20:20] <motaka2> now it says
[20:20] <motaka2> Google Chrome can not be run as root.
[20:21] <marianne> motaka2: do you have a separate non-root account you can use?
[20:21] <cgtdk> motaka2: Why are you running it as root?
[20:24] <motaka2> cgtdk: I dont know, why shouldn't I ?
[20:25] <cgtdk> Because it's unnecessary, and security flaws are far more dangerous if the program is run as root
[20:25] <marianne> motaka2: I learned that lesson a long time ago... when you run everything as root you stand a chance of hosing EVERYTHING... voice of experience here!
[20:25] <cgtdk> Only run as root when you absolutely must
[20:26] <motaka2> marianne: What should I do ?
[20:27] <marianne> motaka2: create a separate account for regular usage...
[20:27] <wheatthin> create a none root, user
[20:28] <motaka2> 1. What will happen to the apps I have downloaded and istalled as root? Here the internet speed is awfully low
[20:28] <motaka2> 2. How can I create another user
[20:28] <wheatthin> motaka2, nothing, you aren't deleting root, just creating a none root user
[20:28] <wheatthin> !adduser | motaka2
[20:30] <jrib> !adduser =~ s/"admin"/"sudo"
[20:30] <jrib> !adduser =~ s/"admin"/"sudo"/
[20:31] <motaka2> wheatthin: Should be standard or administrator, it for home usage and I am the only one who uses this computer
[20:31] <wheatthin> motaka2, user with administrative privs
[20:32] <usr13> motaka2: We don't operate as administrator, we only use administrator privileges when needed.
[20:32] <wheatthin> motaka2, it still will allow you to run things with root prives, but in userspace
[20:32] <wheatthin> usr13, that's the only way he'll access sudo
[20:32] <silmarils> ikonia, one last question, when I do, "do-release-upgrade" , does it delete all the files ?
[20:33] <usr13> motaka2: As wheatthin points out, we use sudo when needed, (only when necessary).
[20:33] <motaka2> wheatthin: It didnt ask me for password what willbe the pass?
[20:34] <ikonia> silmarils: delete what files ?
[20:34] <ikonia> silmarils: it upgrades packages and config files where needed, and touches nothing that it doesn't have to
[20:34] <ignacio_> When having a home pc with internet connection, is it really dangerous to set the modes to 777 ? Some software like Drupal often need it for some files...
[20:35] <ikonia> ignacio_: no software needs 777
[20:35] <usr13> ignacio_: drupal doesnt need 777?
[20:35] <bekks> usr13: No software needs 777.
[20:35] <usr13> bekks: I know, (the question mark was a typo).
[20:35] <ignacio_> Yeah, the public files etc, otherwise I should enter drupal in a group I guess (i dunno... :S)
[20:35] <bekks> usr13: ah :)
[20:35] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to share a document (libreoffice) with someone in a LAN and work on it at the same time with a friend?
[20:36] <bekks> mojtaba: No.
[20:37] <ignacio_> Well, more than Drupal, maybe the apache2 server, I guess I should keep investigating
[20:37] <usr13> ignacio_: 755 for directories and 644 for files
[20:37] <mojtaba> bekks: Why? Are they planning to add this functionality? or is there any difficulty to do this?
[20:37] <ikonia> ignacio_: no software needs 777
[20:37] <jrib> ignacio_: you just need to make sure www-data (the user apache runs as) has access to the relevant directories...
[20:37] <ignacio_> And how do I do that?
[20:38] <ignacio_> I insert www-data to a group?
[20:38] <jrib> ignacio_: do you know what the relevant directories are?
[20:38] <bekks> mojtaba: Nope, they are not. Neither does Microsoft, Oracle, StarOffice, and all those others.
[20:38] <schultza> thought www-data was a group name?
[20:38] <jrib> schultza: it's both
[20:38] <usr13> ignacio_: I just put the directories served from in a /home/user directory and use synlinks.
[20:38] <usr13> ignacio_: In my opinion, it is easiest and most logical.
[20:39] <silmarils> ikonia, but like, all my apache and php configs will stay ?
[20:39] <ikonia> silmarils: please re-read what I said
[20:39] <usr13> ignacio_: That way, you don't need to assign any special group or use permissions, defaults work fine.
[20:40] <silmarils> ikonia, sorry
[20:40] <jrib> usr13: well with things like wikis and drupal there are directories where you want the web server to be able to write to them
[20:40] <kalaka> hey, i got a question about gpg keys
[20:41] <istiaque> How can make bootable usb disk ? Which soft use in linux ?
[20:42] <linguini> How can I get debug symbols for my kernel?
[20:42] <usr13> ignacio_: sudo -ln -s /home/ignacio_/public_html /srv/httpd/htodcs  #Where /srv/httpd/htdocs is the DocumentRoot setting.
[20:42] <ikonia> just change the document root
[20:42] <ikonia> no need for symlinks
[20:43] <ignacio_> So instead using /var/www/ I use a directory in /home/ignacio_/....
[20:43] <linguini> uname -r: 3.5.0-17-generic apt-cache search linux | grep 3.5 # shows nothing with debug symbols
[20:43] <usr13> ignacio_: Or you assign the name of your choosing.  ln -s /home/ignacio_/public_html /srv/httpd/htodcs/My-Site-Name
[20:43] <ignacio_> usr13: Ok I'll try that
[20:44] <usr13> ignacio_: That's the way I do it. (most webservers, apache included, follow symlinks by default).
[20:44] <ignacio_> usr13: Didn't know, I use very little the symlinks, mostly using aliases for day-to-day things, I'll try that
[20:45] <usr13> ignacio_: DocumentRoot is more-than-likely /var/www by defualt.
[20:46] <istiaque> How can make bootable usb disk ? Which soft use in linux ?
[20:46] <usr13> ignacio_: You might want to /join #apache  and ask for further info there.
[20:47] <ignacio_> usr13: Yeah good advice, :D, but the server-world is still very wild for me as I come from comfortable Windows XAMP
[20:47] <motaka2> wheatthin: Are you there?
[20:47] <usr13> ignacio_: It is more comfortable here, I assure you.
[20:48] <Colonel187> I need some printer help
[20:48] <usr13> ignacio_: ... once you learn where everything goes...
[20:48] <usr13> Colonel187: Ask away.
[20:48] <mehwork> how can i setup a secure ftp server in ubuntu?
[20:48] <motaka2> wheatthin: I am in for the new user, the version of ubuntu I am running is 12.04 and it recommends me to download 486MB!!!!! of updates. should I do that?
[20:48] <istiaque> How can make bootable usb disk ? Which soft use in linux ?
[20:49] <Colonel187> I added my printer through the printer app and it downloaded and installed the drivers however when I try to print anything it says can't find printer
[20:49] <wheatthin> motaka2, that's normal, after a fresh install you'll almost always have to update
[20:49] <usr13> istiaque: Re-phrase your question
[20:49] <Colonel187> It's a wireless network printer, it works on my laptop under ubuntu
[20:49] <linusoleander> Anyone know where I can download and install order version of nginx?
[20:49] <usr13> Colonel187: Just because you may have installed some new printer driver, does not mean you have configured it.  Direct your browser to localhost:631
[20:50] <usr13> Colonel187: firefox localhost:631
[20:50] <ignacio_> usr13: Yeah, at least that was true with linux time-efficiency as I'm starting to program usual tasks on Bash scripts
[20:50] <Colonel187> ok, i did mess around in cups. I fount some info on a forum about it
[20:50] <Colonel187> Cups sees my printer
[20:50] <motaka2> wheatthin: I had downloaded phpmyadmin and YED when I was in root, can I access those files from my new administrative user?
[20:51] <linusoleander> It must exist somewhere?
[20:51] <usr13> Colonel187: cups *is* your print server software.  Again:  firefox localhost:631
[20:52] <istiaque> which soft i can use when i  make a  bootable usb disk/stick
[20:52] <cgtdk> istiaque: dd
[20:52] <usr13> istiaque: What exactly are you trying to do?
[20:52] <Colonel187> i'm there. Nothing I messed with will allow me to print. I'm at a loss. I even pinged my printers ip address and it cann't connect to host. except it works under windows and on my laptop under ubuntu
[20:53] <usr13> Colonel187: Do you have a printer configured?  Is it "Ready"?  Can you print test page?  firefox loclahost:631
[20:53] <marianne> Colonel187: what 's the make and model of the printer... i missed it
[20:54] <Colonel187> it's ready but it cannot connect when I try to print a test page
[20:54] <schultza> usr13: check your url... localhost not loclahost
[20:54] <istiaque> distribute linux distro,, helping to the other people,,,
[20:54] <Colonel187> let me rephrase it is unable to locate printer
[20:54] <usr13> Colonel187: Click on "Printers".  Do you see your printer listed there?
[20:54] <Colonel187> yes
[20:54] <Colonel187> with a green check
[20:55] <usr13> Colonel187: A "green check"?
[20:55] <usr13> Colonel187: Do you have it set to a specific (static) IP?
[20:55] <Colonel187> you mean in cups or in the printers program
[20:55] <Colonel187> yes it is set to static
[20:55] <usr13> Colonel187: firefox localhost:631
[20:56] <Colonel187> yes it is listed there
[20:56] <Colonel187> status is unable to locate printer
[20:56] <usr13> Colonel187: Open the firefox web browser, (or which ever web browser you use).  In the address bar, type    localhost:631   Hit enter.
[20:56] <Colonel187> I'm there
[20:56] <wheatthin> motaka2, using phpmyadmin, you have to be root to make changes, but that's only while logging into phpmyadmin
[20:57] <usr13> Colonel187: "unable to locate printer" That should tell you *something*
[20:57] <Colonel187> right
[20:57] <usr13> Colonel187: DO you have the IP address correct?
[20:57] <Colonel187> I don't understand how to fix it. the printer has a static ip, cups was able to find my printer just fine in order to add it and auto download the drivers
[20:58] <Colonel187> I tried to ping the printers ip address and it's unable to locate. how can it be located to install but not to print?
[20:58] <marianne> Colonel187: is the printer an HP?
[20:58] <ikonia> what has ping got to do with printing ?
[20:58] <Colonel187> no it is an epson
[20:58] <istiaque> how can i write iso image usb disk/stick?
[20:59] <usr13> Colonel187: Well, I should back up just a bit.  Some printers now come with some setting that it doesn't really connect to the network, but just does an ad-hoc connection directly to a PC.  If that is the case, you are on your own.  I don't know, I guess it's just between you and your printer.  YOu have to figure out how to set that up, I don't know...
[20:59] <Colonel187> that is not the case. mine does both and it's set to network not ad-hoc
[21:00] <motaka2> wheatthin: How can I find YED editor that I have downloaded as root?
[21:00] <usr13> Colonel187: If that is the case, and there is some setting to tell it to connect directly to your Wireless AP, I would to that, (for simplicity sake).  At least to me, it would be simplier, then you just use the IP you set it to. But that is up to you.  Just look at your printer's config (the manual or whatever) and see.
[21:01] <zipy> zipy
[21:01] <cgtdk> istiaque: I already told you, dd
[21:01] <usr13> Colonel187: Ok, then just set it to a static IP, (or set up a static lease on your router) and away you go...
[21:01] <Colonel187> it is set up that way
[21:01] <usr13> Colonel187: What is the make and model of your printer?
[21:01] <zipy> bekks, ready? i got the squid3 error msg now :D
[21:01] <Colonel187> as I said it works on my laptop but not my pc, both running ubuntu 13.04
[21:01] <Colonel187> it's an epson artisan 810
[21:02] <zipy> !paste
 how can i install dd?
[21:02] <cgtdk> istiaque: It's probably already installed. It's a command line tool.
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> istiaque  dd if=blah.iso of=[usb stick]          <-- input file, output file
[21:02] <usr13> Colonel187: So what does it say after "Connection:" ?
[21:02] <zipy> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805967/
[21:03] <schultza> does 'pastebinit' still work!?
[21:03] <Colonel187> where do i find that status
[21:03] <usr13> Colonel187: Or just paste what you see on the screen.
[21:03] <ikonia> schultza: should to
[21:03] <Colonel187> ok one sec
[21:03] <usr13> Colonel187: http://localhost:631/printers/Name-of-Your-Printer
[21:03] <wiolet> where is the #mint channel at?
[21:03] <ikonia> wiolet: spotnet different irc network
[21:03] <usr13> !paste | Colonel187
[21:03] <ikonia> wiolet: read their webpage
[21:04] <schultza> !pastebinit
[21:04] <schultza> wiolet: do you mean ##linuxmint ?
[21:05] <usr13> Colonel187: After "Connection:" it should say something like   socket://<IP_ADDRESS>   #Where <IP_ADDRESS> is the IP of your printer.  Does it?
[21:05] <zipy> i tried to run tor + privoxy + squid 3 with this instructions: http://evilzone.org/anonymity/setup-your-own-proxy-with-squidprivoxytor-on-debian-like-distros-%28tutorial%29/ but after step 10, when i want to start squid3 "with squid3 -z" i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805967/ can someone help me? :D
[21:06] <Colonel187> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5805981/
[21:06] <usr13> Colonel187: If you do not think you have specified the correct driver for it, click on "Administration" and choose to "Modify printer"
[21:06] <ikonia> zipy: you've not setup access lists
[21:07] <zipy> ikonia, where?
[21:07] <Colonel187> I've tried that too
[21:07] <ikonia> zipy: in squid....
[21:07] <zipy> in the squidconf?
[21:07] <ikonia> zipy: in the squid config yes
[21:07] <usr13> Colonel187: Connection:dnssd://EPSON76FC16._printer._tcp.local/    Does not look like an IP address to me.  So....?
[21:07] <schultza> is irc.gnome.org connected in this irc network?
[21:07] <zipy> k mom
[21:07] <zipy> ill check
[21:07] <Colonel187> I see that
[21:07] <Colonel187> how do i make is see the ip address
[21:07] <usr13> Colonel187: Can you ping EPSON76FC16._printer._tcp.local  ?
[21:07] <ikonia> zipy: please don't make stupid comments to me like "k mom" - I'm not your mother, so please do'nt talk to me like that
[21:08] <usr13> Colonel187: ping EPSON76FC16._printer._tcp.local   #Tell us what happens.
[21:08] <zipy> mom = moment
[21:08] <zipy> ^^
[21:08] <ikonia> zipy: than say "moment" rather than text speak,
[21:08] <usr13> !ping | Colonel187
[21:08] <zipy> kk sry
[21:08] <Colonel187> lol
[21:08] <ikonia> zipy: "sorry" not "sry"
[21:08] <zipy> -.-
[21:08] <zipy> ok ok sorry
[21:08] <Colonel187> unknown
[21:09] <usr13> Colonel187: Ok so you need to configure your printer.
[21:10] <usr13> Colonel187: Click Modify printer
[21:10] <Colonel187> ok
[21:11] <usr13> Colonel187: YOur printer is turned on and connected to the network right now.  Right?
[21:11] <Colonel187> yes
[21:11] <usr13> Okeydokey fire away
[21:11] <Colonel187> im still in the localhost:631 correct?
[21:12] <zipy> ikonia, istn the acl list the allowlist?
[21:12] <usr13> Colonel187: Yes.
[21:12] <ikonia> zipy: have you setup the acls ?
[21:12] <Colonel187> Not sure where modify is. I can go to manage?
[21:12] <zipy> acl home_network src <IP_ADDRESS>/24 isnt this a setup?
[21:12] <ikonia> zipy: did YOU setup the acls'
[21:13] <zipy> no
[21:13] <ikonia> zipy: then no, it's not setup
[21:13] <zipy> but i thought its fine like that
[21:13] <zipy> but that is the right ip tho
[21:13] <ikonia> zipy: no, it's not
[21:13] <Colonel187> nevermind i found it
[21:13] <zipy> i just changed that line
[21:18] <zipy> ikona, what about line 3-5, whats wrong with that paste.ubuntu.com/5805967/
[21:18] <ikonia> zipy: have you read how to configure squic ACL's ?
[21:19] <zipy> is that warning also about the acl or r u talking about line 7?
[21:21] <foobArrr> is there an easy way to find out what process a window belongs to?
[21:25] <Fuchs> foobArrr: more or less
[21:25] <Fuchs> foobArrr: there is _NET_WM_PID  that you can read if it is set
[21:25] <Fuchs> xprop should give that
[21:25] <foobArrr> k, thanks
[21:27] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[21:27] <zipy> ikonia, i removed now all acls and http_access but acl localhost src <IP_ADDRESS>/24 and the http_access allow home_network but i still get an error: cache_cf.cc(381) parseOneConfigFile: squid.conf:49 unrecognized: 'broken_vary_encoding'
[21:29] <OptimizedCoder> All, I need to know if I have grub/grub-legacy installed (ie. if I have GRUB1 or GRUB2)  I'm running WUBI..
[21:29] <OptimizedCoder> 'file -s /dev/sdx' does not even say that it has grub
[21:31] <Ben64> OptimizedCoder: the version should be at the bottom when grub starts
[21:31] <OptimizedCoder> Ben64, Any other way - to know after I;m booted in?
[21:31] <Ben64> dpkg -l | grep grub
[21:31] <thurstylark> where can I find the data dnsmasq has cached?
[21:32] <jerry_> nfs issue: mounted drive on server showing as empty on client. How to fix.
[21:34] <zipy> hmm someone can help me with my squid.conf? ive set up privoxy and tor yet
[21:36] <OptimizedCoder> Ben64, that helped - thanks!
[21:37] <usr13> thurstylark: Unless it is permanent caching, it's just in RAM
[21:38] <jerry_> I need help with nfs - I have a drive mounted under home on another precise box but it is showing a zero contents on nfs client also precise.
[21:39] <usr13> thurstylark: http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/dnsmasq-man.html
[21:40] <usr13> jerry_: Sure you have it pointed to correct directory?  Is that directory empty?
[21:41] <usr13> jerry_: Look at /etc/exports on the server and /etc/fstab on the client side to see what you have set up.
[21:41] <jerry_> i can see parent /home via nfs client but /home/500g-drive shows as empty on nfs client
[21:42] <xv> How do I install this? http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-ux/
[21:42] <jerry_> i set up /home in /etc/exports
[21:42] <usr13> !paste | jerry_
[21:43] <Ben64> xv: you're on your own if you want to do that, it is unsupported in here
[21:43] <usr13> jerry_: pastebinit /etc/exports
[21:43] <xv> I've spent hours trying to figure it out
[21:43] <ikonia> xv: then you probably shouldn't be doing it
[21:43] <usr13> jerry_: And then on the client side: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[21:44] <xv> I have it on Windows; thought I'd try it on Ubuntu
[21:44] <ikonia> xv: that doesn't change what I just said
[21:44] <jerry_> be back in ten
[21:44] <Ben64> xv: you could try the ppa here... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa but it is unsupported here as well
[21:45] <xv> ok
[21:45] <ikonia> xv: Ben64's suggestion is something I'd advsise you stay clear of too
[21:45] <usr13> xv:  you just download the linux version, unzip it
[21:45] <xv> why's that ikonia?
[21:45] <usr13> xv: If you want to replace what you have, just put it where the other one is and name it appropriately.
[21:45] <ikonia> xv: because it may cause dependency conflicts
[21:45] <Ben64> usr13: thats a bad idea
[21:45] <usr13> xv: like firefox-24
[21:46] <xv> all this mind boggling terminology
[21:46] <usr13> Ben64: NO it isn't
[21:46] <ikonia> xv: and you're clearly not confident with what you are doing, so making these changes for no reason/without understanding of what you are doing is not good
[21:46] <fatNERD> my load avg just went up to 170. why so high?
[21:46] <ikonia> fatNERD: look at what your machine is doing
[21:46] <fatNERD> its moving files
[21:46] <fatNERD> but still 170 is way to high
[21:47] <ikonia> fatNERD: depends what it's doing and how
[21:47] <fatNERD> this machine only has 250 megs of ram
[21:48] <ikonia> fatNERD: ok, so there is a good reason why it's under load
[21:48] <usr13> xv: Just move what you extract.  mv firefox/ /usr/lib/firefox-24   and then change the symlink  ln -sf /usr/lib/firefox-24/firefox /usr/bin/  #If you want to replace the one you have with new one.
[21:48] <Ben64> usr13: still a bad idea
[21:48] <usr13> Ben64: Why is that?
[21:48] <pseudonymous> I'm trying to figure out why my ubuntu server (remote hosting) will not respond/boot its own OS anymore, which files can I tap into ? I can reset the box and boot a rescue-system, so I can read/modify the disk contents
[21:48] <usr13> Ben64: (Please explain.)
[21:49] <ikonia> pseudonymous: where does the boot fail ?
[21:49] <Ben64> 1. no updates; 2. harder to remove; 3. could cause conflicts/problems in apt
[21:49] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I have no clue, that's what I'm trying desparately to find out
[21:49] <ikonia> pseudonymous: what changed ?
[21:49] <Ben64> its a lot easier to remove a ppa (which is what i suggested) than manually extracted/installed programs
[21:49] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I'd be tempted to say "nothing" but obviously something did. I don't know, though.
[21:50] <ikonia> pseudonymous: what is the error when you try to boot it
[21:50] <Ceipher_> Looking for help with partitioning a USB 3.0 1TB Portable Drive for use as a stand-alone OS.
[21:50] <ikonia> Ceipher_: what's not clear ?
[21:50] <usr13> 1. Right, (he is updating on his own, that is clear). 2. Harder to remove?  What's wrong with rm -rf /usr/lib/firefox-24 ?   3. What conflicts?  (Again, please explain.)
[21:50] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I can't see, that's the issue, if I could watch as it booted there'd be no problem. I need a way to verify that a) it actually DID boot the entire OS and (B) some way of making it write a lot of debugging information for me, a la a rc.local script
[21:51] <ikonia> pseudonymous: just look in the syslog
[21:51] <pseudonymous> ikonia: and where would that be ?
[21:51] <ikonia> pseudonymous: or boot into recovery mode (you said that worked) and start each service manally and see what files
[21:51] <ikonia> pseudonymous: /var/log
[21:51] <Ceipher_> I'm not sure what type of partition are required for the installion to work directly from the usb drive. -Shrugs- Been at it a few days now.
[21:52] <ikonia> Ceipher_: standard MS dos partition table will be fine
[21:52] <Ceipher_> Size of swap-area?
[21:52] <usr13> Ben64: If an update for firefox comes along, it will just clobber what he has and he will be using the one that came to him from the repo, (unless he re-does the symlink).  Nothing much complicated or mysterious about that.
[21:52] <ikonia> Ceipher_: no special requirements, just treat it as an internal disk
[21:52] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I can't boot into any mode and see anything. it's a remotely hosted box. I can use a webinterface to boot some other recovery OS and mount the drive - hence why I can read/write to the Ubuntu partition, but that'sit
[21:52] <ikonia> Ceipher_: up to you, swap size is personal choice
[21:52] <ikonia> pseudonymous: ok, look at the syslog then
[21:52] <ikonia> pseudonymous: delete all the logs, try to boot it, let it fail, check the logs again
[21:53] <usr13> xv: But we should tell you that the latest stable release is v22
[21:53] <pseudonymous> ikonia: all the logs, as in the log directories under /var/log, too ?
[21:53] <ikonia> pseudonymous: well, apply logic, eg: no point in deleting / monitoring the apache logs as your machine is not booting that far
[21:53] <Ceipher_> So I need a Fat32 Primary, A root, a swap-area, and what type of systemfile part? dos?
[21:53] <ikonia> pseudonymous: however as you sound quite lost I'd suggest contacting your hosting provider for help
[21:54] <Ceipher_> I'm pretty much brand new to linux. >->
[21:54] <ikonia> !install | Ceipher_
[21:54] <ikonia> Ceipher_: also reading https://help.ubuntu.com will give you an overview on how to use/install ubuntu
[21:54] <pseudonymous> ikonia: well I'm just not at all used to or OK with the Ubuntu way of doing things. This is practically a different world from the Linux I know
[21:54] <gordonjcp> pseudonymous: all linuxes are pretty much the same
[21:54] <ikonia> pseudonymous: it's exactly the same as every other linux distro in logging terms
[21:55] <ggz> bye
[21:55] <ikonia> pseudonymous: trying to say "its' different" as a reason you don't know where the log directories are doesn't stand up well
[21:55] <SunMoonStar> Why does ubuntu installer download a google-chrome-stable update? I thought that google chrome updates itself.. ?
[21:55] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: it's package managed
[21:55] <SunMoonStar> so chrome does not auto-update itself?
[21:56] <usr13> Ben64: I'm not telling xv something I haven't tested.  It works and is not a problem.  Not trying to be contradictory, just want to be clear so we understand how it works.  It's not complicated, it's just a simple symlink and can ge changed at any time.
[21:56] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: it would be unwise to allow that
[21:56] <pseudonymous> ikonia: I don't see the point of arguing this, but logging daemons vary between distros and even if its the same, you define where to pipe which log messages out according to a config file. Ergo however ubuntu may divide log messages up into files differs from other distros
[21:56] <ikonia> pseudonymous: no
[21:56] <JoeyJoeJo> My server applies some iptables rules at boot. Where are those rules stored? I need to change them
[21:57] <Ceipher_> Can anyone point me to an example or guide of some sort for Partitioning a USB Drive? A list of important partitions or..something?
[21:57] <usr13> JoeyJoeJo: We don't know. But it is prlbably in /etc/init.d/firewall-something-or-other.
[21:57] <pseudonymous> ikonia: yes. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/security/security-handbook.xml?part=1&chap=3  -- the very first code-listing shows a config which routes different log messages to different files
[21:58] <JoeyJoeJo> Ceipher_: If you've got X check out gparted. It's pretty easy to get the hang of. Just play around with it using a disk with no important data on it in case something gets messed up
[21:58] <yofun> question. can i use more then two dns servers?
[21:59] <rypervenche> yofun: Sure.
[21:59] <yofun> k
[22:01] <Ceipher_> See everyone acts like this is as easy as I think it is, But I can't seem to get it going...Not on a liveusb drive anyway.
[22:01] <usr13> Ben64: You can try it out and see.  Download one and switch to it and see for yourself.  It is easy. If you don't have v22, try it.   See my PM if you need further info.
[22:01] <Ceipher_> The installion failed at some point during its detection of filesystem.
[22:02] <jerry> Need NFS help. home network all precise boxes. setup nfs server and client. I have a drive on server side mounted via fstab under /home. When looking at this drive from nfs client it shows as empty.
[22:03] <usr13> jerry: What do you need?
[22:04] <jerry> help. you wanted me to upload the /etc/exports but I didn't save the log from my last xchat seesion
[22:04] <fungus631> hey its me again... this time running kubuntu 13.04 and still having color depth problems after a month of toying around with ubuntu... anyone around that can help me with this problem? i believe my current color depth is 15
[22:05] <usr13> jerry: Sorry if I missed it.
[22:05] <usr13> jerry: pm ?
[22:05] <jerry> what is pm
[22:05] <usr13> private message?
[22:05] <usr13> jerry: In other words, see my private message....
[22:05] <usr13> Or not.....
[22:05] <jerry> how do i pm i'm new to xchat
[22:06] <usr13> jerry: I don't know.
[22:06] <yofun> jerry:  there should be a window tab that shows you usr13's pm
[22:06] <usr13> jerry: but it should just show up as a channel named jerry
[22:07] <nimbiotics> I dont know how my son managed to do it but I do not have the panels anymore. Please tell me how to restore the panels, this is making my life miserable. TIA!
[22:07] <Ceipher_> Anyone willing to help me with partitioning a USB
[22:07] <Lynxx> anyone know some good alternative desktop environments
[22:07] <yofun> nimbiotics:  you mean the side bars and such?
[22:08] <Lynxx> i've used kde, gnome, xfce
[22:08] <Ceipher_> ~Drive for use as a stand-alone...Please PM me~
[22:08] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:09] <yofun> Ceipher_:  you heard of gparted?
[22:09] <nimbiotics> yofun: yes
[22:10] <Ceipher_> Yes, I know how and what i can use. Its the partition types and sizes(P.size/Cluster sizes) I don't know what i am needing.
[22:10] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:10] <fungus631> hey its me again... this time running kubuntu 13.04 and still having color depth problems after a month of toying around with ubuntu... anyone around that can help me with this problem? i believe my current color depth is 15
[22:10] <yofun> Ceipher_:  what do you need?
[22:11] <yofun> nimbiotics:  hold on...
[22:12] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:12] <noobuntu> i see " & " at the end of a terminal command.. ex. firefox & .....what does that do?
[22:12] <Ceipher_> Some sort of lil list of needed partitions, IE: Root, Fat32, Swap-Area... Mostly just...What should i use as the file system? ext2...ext3...NTFS... as dos? or? -_-' Three days I've gotten little to no where on this.
[22:12] <fungus631> good luck im goin on a month
[22:13] <Ceipher_> You've at least installed lol
[22:13] <fungus631> yeah...
[22:13] <yofun> Ceipher_:  fat32 or ext4 or NTFS would work
[22:13] <yofun> i think NTFS would work on windows
[22:14] <Ceipher_> For a stand-alone USB 3.0 Drive.
[22:14] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:14] <nimbiotics> yofun: sure
[22:15] <OerHeks> fungus631, what videocard do you have?
[22:16] <yofun> nimbiotics:  im not 100% sure but this might help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels
[22:16] <OerHeks> copy the output of >  lspci | gep -i VGA
[22:16] <fungus631> intel 855gm
[22:16] <OerHeks> oops, missing r >> lspci | grep -i VGA
[22:17] <OerHeks> Intel should be supported standard, how much ram did you share with it, in your bios?
[22:17] <fungus631> no clue
[22:18] <fungus631> *scratches head* i can share ram in bios?
[22:18] <fungus631> dont recall any setting in bios for video
[22:19] <yofun> nimbiotics: just wondering have you tired a computer restart already?
[22:20] <OerHeks> fungus631, this page shows how you can get that GPU memory  size >> http://z-computer-z.blogspot.nl/2010/02/view-video-memory-display-memory-size.html
[22:24] <brian_petersen> I need some help recovering a couple files. I compressed a couple of files in my ubuntu system and copied them to a ntfs partition (acting as a shared drive between ubuntu and my windows environment). I though all was well and I installed arch over my ubuntu system and then booted my windows environment from a hidernation. It then "deleted" those files on the other partition and I NEED to restore them. How would I do this?
[22:25] <yofun> brian_petersen:  what? no back ups?
[22:25] <yofun> or copyed them?
[22:25] <fungus631> lspci -v -s 00:02.0 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])         Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff00         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16         Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]         Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]         I/O ports at 1800 [size=8
[22:25] <brian_petersen> yofun, that was my backup, I was just migrating to my new archlinux environment.
[22:26] <yofun> if you /really/ need them then i think theres a way to place your computer into single user mode and dig them up
[22:27] <OerHeks> fungus631, 128 mb would be enough, odd that the intel does not do 32 bit color
[22:27] <brian_petersen> what do you mean?
[22:27] <fungus631> what does this mean... what now
[22:27] <yofun> brian_petersen: hold on
[22:28] <yofun> brian_petersen:  you could try these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[22:30] <nimbiotics> yofun: ?
[22:30] <yofun> nimbiotics: just wondering have you tired a computer restart already?
[22:31] <fungus631> any help?
[22:31] <reisio> fungus631: with?
[22:31] <fungus631> ...
[22:31] <fungus631> having color depth issues cannot create or edit xorg.conf... any help
[22:32] <reisio> fungus631: what sort of issues?
[22:32] <philadams> quick question (irc noob): can you guys see this message?
[22:32] <reisio> philadams: I cannot
[22:32] <reisio> :D
[22:32] <philadams> reisio: thanks :)
[22:32] <fungus631> need to raise colr depth
[22:32] <reisio> philadams: if I could see your messages, I'd say you're welcome
[22:32] <reisio> fungus631: why's that?
[22:32] <fungus631> because it looks like shit
[22:33] <reisio> fungus631: screenshot?
[22:33] <deckard> are we supposed to restart Ubuntu after updates?
[22:33] <deckard> as a general rule
[22:33] <fungus631> look my color depth is set to 15 how do i raise it
[22:33] <reisio> deckard: as a general rule you shouldn't, really
[22:33] <reisio> deckard: unless there was a kernel update
[22:34] <deckard> ty
[22:34] <gordonjcp> or some other deep library update ;-)
[22:34] <reisio> as updating a kernel without rebooting is a little involved
[22:34] <deckard> should we run autoremove often?
[22:34] <gordonjcp> deckard: it can't hurt to restart, but you generally don't need to
[22:34] <reisio> gordonjcp: nah
[22:34] <reisio> it could hurt, it propagates silliness
[22:34] <fungus631> forgive me for being touchy but people help me out half ass and leave this has been an ongoing problem for a month
[22:34] <deckard> how do i know when its a kernal update/
[22:34] <gordonjcp> replacing a running kernel without rebooting is possible, but "entertaining"
[22:35] <reisio> :D
[22:35] <gordonjcp> deckard: it'll tell you it needs to restart to finish with the updates
[22:35] <fungus631> i assume adjusting color depth should be a relativly simple process
[22:35] <SunMoonStar> In an online course I'm taking , it says you can run the file as a script (bash file.sh) or as an executable (./file.sh).. The behavior is the same.  Do I or do I not have to do chmod for the bash file command
[22:40] <bobek_balinek> Hi, my ubuntu server 12.04 is ramming 100% CPU on process 'tty1' for good hours, strace just logs:" trace(0, "") = 0 " in an infinite loop.  Identified by what? Opens?
[22:48] <holstein> tboat: was it encrypted?
[22:48] <holstein> assuming it is referring to the partition that i was before assuming wasnt mounting
[22:48] <tboat> reisio: it was not encrypted by me, gedit says it has invalid characters.  says i can try choosing another character encoding and try again. currently on UTF-8
[22:48] <reisio> tboat: gedit says what has
[22:49] <someguy_999> has anyone created a local Ubuntu Archive Mirror without using apt-cache , apt-mirror, or debmirror but from just the local Ubuntu DVD??? This is just to create an automated install, where bandwidth is an issue, and NO a local apt-repo is not picked up as a Local Ubuntu Archive Mirror....
[22:49] <tboat> reisio: /sbin/blkid
[22:49] <reisio> someguy_999: probably
[22:49] <reisio> tboat: what about /sbin/blkid
[22:49] <reisio> use complete sentences, be precise
[22:49] <tboat> reisio: that is what gives me the gedit error
[22:49] <holstein> someguy_999: apt on cd ? is that what you are looking for?
[22:50] <reisio> tboat: no, /sbin/blkid does not give you a gedit error
[22:50] <someguy_999> into an apt-cd
[22:50] <someguy_999> and also
[22:50] <someguy_999> holstein the issue is how do I turn ubuntu server dvd
[22:50] <nimbiotics> yofun: thanks again, it worked like a charm!
[22:50] <someguy_999> this is not seen as a Ubuntu Archive mirror
[22:50] <someguy_999> for example
[22:50] <tboat> reisio: it does when you attempt to open blkid haha, didn't realize you meant that as a command
[22:50] <someguy_999> and publish it in apache
[22:50] <someguy_999> I could create a local apt repo
[22:50] <someguy_999> using
[22:50] <yofun> no problem nimbiotics the first thing i aways do is try a restart then ask for help :)
[22:51] <yofun> nimbiotics:  in some cases i mean :)
[22:51] <yofun> not all
[22:51] <someguy_999> but this will not pick it up as a Ubuntu Archive mirror
[22:51] <someguy_999> as it does not have the folder structures
[22:51] <someguy_999> dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz
[22:51] <someguy_999> which soemthign liek apt mirror would create
[22:51] <someguy_999> so the dream
[22:52] <someguy_999> publish it in apache
[22:52] <someguy_999> is create a Ubuntu archive mirror from the Ubuntu DVD
[22:52] <someguy_999> kickstart it using cobbler
[22:52] <reisio> tboat: heheheh :)
[22:52] <someguy_999> point it to the local mirror
[22:52] <holstein> someguy_999: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#CD-ROM.2BAC8-DVD-1
[22:52] <someguy_999> and install it
[22:52] <someguy_999> .. however thats the issue creating the local mirror from the DVD
[22:53] <tboat> reisio: so /sbin/blkid shows this for my second HDD, the one I want access to: sdb1: UUID type=ext2 sdb5: UUID type=LVM2_member
[22:53] <nimbiotics> :)
[22:53] <reisio> tboat: so sdb5
[22:53] <someguy_999> holstein ubuntu server starts different
[22:54] <holstein> someguy_999: sure.. and that should be a similar process.. adding it to the sources
[22:54] <reisio> tboat: read something like http://linuxers.org/howto/how-mount-linux-lvm-volume-partitions-linux
[22:54] <roasted> Question - am I under the correct understanding that if I have a GPT table and install using guided partitioning, Ubuntu will auto install the proper efi partitions and whatnot? I'm finding on this laptop (Lenovo X130e) that I cannot install using EFI. The only way it'll succeed is if I disable UEFI and then install... I just thought that with UEFI enabled, Ubuntu would work, but I just go into a boot loop when installed with UEFI enabled/guided
[22:54] <roasted> partitioning. Eh?
[22:55] <someguy_999> holstein this is an auto install there are no sources file
[22:55] <someguy_999> is grabs it from a preseed file
[22:56] <holstein> someguy_999: you installed ubuntu server? and you have not sources?
[22:57] <tboat> reisio: you are my effin hero thank you!
[22:57] <someguy_999> holsetain this is BEFORE it's installed
[22:57] <someguy_999> aka auto installer preseed
[22:57] <reisio> tboat: :p
[22:58] <holstein> someguy_999: just install, and use a CD as the sources.. otherwise, if its not installed, i dont understand what you are trying to install, or how.. there is not live environment in the stock ubuntu server iso AFAIK
[22:58] <someguy_999> holstein it's ok i will look for antoher way, that has already been achived sigh
[22:58] <holstein> !minimal | someguy_999
[22:59] <reisio> heh
[22:59] <holstein> someguy_999: you install minimal.. then you configure it to use the way you want.. not the other way
[22:59] <someguy_999> Your not getting it fins
[22:59] <someguy_999> fine
[22:59] <reisio> why keep 7MB of bloat off the ordinary install image when you can create a whole set of other images :p
[23:01] <sparr> What's a good simple program to record a video from a webcam in a decently compressed video codec?
[23:01] <holstein> sparr: cheese too simple?
[23:01] <reisio> sparr: with a GUI?
[23:01] <litepool> can anyone help me with port forwarding
[23:02] <yofun> litepool:  what router?
[23:02] <litepool> just in ubuntu
[23:02] <litepool> iptables
[23:02] <sparr> reisio: yes, preferably one with just one button, record/stop.
[23:03] <reisio> sparr: heh
[23:03] <sparr> cheese sounds like it might work
[23:03] <mnemon> litepool: what's the problem?
[23:03] <hapster> Hi now that it was announced that ubuntu 13.10 will ship with Mir, will this mean only laptops with intel graphics will be able to take advantage of it?
[23:03] <litepool> trying to forward a public 3333 port to a remote ips 3333 port mnemon
[23:04] <litepool> for example all incomming connections on myip:3333 to remoteip:333
[23:04] <litepool> for example all incomming connections on myip:3333 to remoteip:3333
[23:05] <reisio> hapster: you mean 14.04?
[23:05] <nogal> so, I can't seem to find documentation for this, how does one run a startup script at login as the user instead of root?
[23:05] <[UT]> Hi Everyone!
[23:05] <nogal> using lightdm
[23:05] <kelly> hi guys i want to ask about texture filter option in compiz ? what is it for ?
[23:05] <hapster> it says here 13.10 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/mir-display-server-to-ship-default-in-ubuntu-13-10
[23:06] <reisio> nogal: before login?
[23:06] <mnemon> litepool: you can use the nat table for that ... can't remember the directives to get thet working off the top of my head though
[23:06] <nogal> reisio: no, at/after login
[23:06] <mnemon> sec
[23:06] <reisio> kelly: ask #compiz
[23:06] <holstein> hapster: try #ubuntu+1
[23:06] <litepool> would really help if you gave the command mnemon you have no idea how much stuff its doing
[23:06] <reisio> nogal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[23:06] <reisio> nogal: that is: use GNOME
[23:07] <prsteele> Hello; can anyone recommend a partitioning scheme for me? I'm going to have a fast, small SSD and a large, slow HDD
[23:07] <kelly> ok is it risky to disable apport ?
[23:07] <reisio> GNOME's auto run stuff
[23:07] <reisio> prsteele: /dev/sda1 / /dev/sdb1 /home/
[23:07] <nogal> reisio: i'm using xmonad atm, will this still work? (i still have the ubuntu-desktop metapackage installed)
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> hapster  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:08] <reisio> nogal: nope
[23:08] <hapster> MonkeyDust ok
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> oh holstein already said it
[23:08] <prsteele> reisio: so /home on HDD, and everything else (/, /usr/ /swap) on SDD?
[23:09] <nogal> reisio: didn't think so... i've got a hack in my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf taht I worked together but it's (obviously) running as root -- erego not quitting out on logut
[23:09] <reisio> prsteele: sounds good to me
[23:09] <prsteele> reisio: Thanks; I've always just done whatever the installer wanted, but I've never had fast v. slow drives
[23:10] <reisio> nogal: most wms implement some kind of ~/autostart type dir, but I don't know if xmonad does
[23:10] <nogal> reisio: it does not, I was hoping to do it more of a "correct" way and not rely on the window manager
[23:10] <nogal> reisio: akin to ~/.xinitrc
[23:10] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys hi !
[23:11] <reisio> nogal: how is that more correct?
[23:11] <mnemon> litepool: http://linux.die.net/man/8/iptables see DNAT
[23:11] <reisio> prsteele: :D
[23:11] <mrtAkdeniz> My usb wireless mouse was not working, then I wrote lsusb on terminal, there wasn't any thing about mouse, then un-plugged mouse adapter and connected again, then I wrote lsusb again
[23:11] <reisio> prsteele: you could look into swap on the hdd
[23:12] <mrtAkdeniz> There was a Xenta option, any my mouse is working now
[23:12] <FiremanEd> +
[23:12] <nogal> reisio: taht'd get into a religous war I don't intend to spark. :P
[23:12] <reisio> prsteele: but it's really just a matter of considering how soon you'll need to replace the ssd, and how soon you can afford to
[23:12] <mrtAkdeniz> I have to re-connect my wireless adapter for every reboot
[23:12] <mrtAkdeniz> Can we do sth to fix it?
[23:12] <prsteele> reisio: I'm not that cramped for space; something like 120G on the SSD...
[23:12] <litepool> mnemon can you give me an example command? not trying to be lazy but i tried something ealier and it didn't work
[23:12] <prsteele> reisio: OH. I didn't even think of that
[23:13] <litepool> i tried
[23:13] <prsteele> reiso: this partioning scheme will let me blow away an install and reinstall without touching home, right?
[23:13] <reisio> prsteele: well, you'll see the best gains by putting the files you access the most (the OS files, not personal files) on the faster disk
[23:13] <litepool> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -j DNAT --to myremoteip:3333
[23:13] <mnemon> litepool: so iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING --dport 3333 -d <yourip> -J DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:3333 would forward the connection
[23:13] <reisio> prsteele: yes, as unimportant as that is :)
[23:13] <Kaytoo> is it a good idea to encrypt your hd using turecrypt
[23:13] <reisio> nogal: if you want to use ~/.xinitrc, stop using lightdm
[23:13] <prsteele> reisio: thanks again
[23:14] <kelly> is it risky to disable apport ?
[23:14] <litepool> mnemon yourip is remote ip?
[23:14] <mnemon> no, it's the ip of the forwarding interface
[23:14] <reisio> prsteele: you might want to shop around for the best FS for the SSD, too
[23:14] <prsteele> reisio: so not just ext3?
[23:14] <mnemon> so the public ip, <IP_ADDRESS> should be switched to the remote/target up
[23:14] <mnemon> *ip
[23:14] <reisio> kelly: for the compiz texture plugin?
[23:14] <reisio> kelly: it's very hard to imagine that being risky
[23:15] <reisio> prsteele: yeah, and probably not even ext4
[23:15] <compdoc> I think Ubuntu has defualted to ext4 for a couple of releases now
[23:15] <litepool> mnemon just so i get it clear, when someone access myip:3333 they get remoteip:3333
[23:15] <reisio> ext4 without a journal might be okay, but you could probably do better
[23:15] <reisio> prsteele: do some searching, something will jump out at you
[23:15] <nogal> reisio: probably just gonna ditch 'buntu altogether honestly, need me an external hard-drive :P  Just figured lightdm had some way of handling it. I'll patch something together in the meantime.
[23:15] <mnemon> litepool: iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING --dport 3333 -d myip -J DNAT --to remoteip:3333
[23:15] <tboat> hey if i wanted to create a partition for a new users /home directory, which format should i use for the partition?
[23:15] <reisio> it probably has, but lightdm isn't so light to be a good pairing with xmonad, tbh
[23:15] <prsteele> reisio: thanks
[23:15] <reisio> tboat: ext4 should do
[23:16] <mnemon> litepool: iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -d myip -J DNAT --to remoteip:3333 actually ...
[23:16] <reisio> prsteele: ssd, swap, fs, trim, journal :D
[23:16] <reisio> prsteele: but don't put more time into the research than it'll take you to earn money to buy a replacement ssd :D
[23:16] <tboat> reisio: should it be handled in LVM, or is gparted alright to use?
[23:16] <reisio> tboat: gparted is alright
[23:17] <reisio> especially for something you only ever intend to be a single partition of a fixed size
[23:17] <tboat> reisio: cool, cool thanks again! :D
[23:17] <litepool> mnemon, thank you, myip being localhost? do i do anything else
[23:17] <prsteele> reisio: heh
[23:17] <litepool> iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -d <IP_ADDRESS> -J DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:3333
[23:17] <reisio> tboat: if you're using lvm for everything else, it might be nice to use, but lvm is not so important
[23:17] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys is there any irc help channel?
[23:17] <litepool> or
[23:17] <mrtAkdeniz> I have aproblem with xchat
[23:17] <mnemon> litepool: myip should be the ip that the client connects to
[23:17] <litepool> iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -d
[23:17] <litepool> <IP_ADDRESS> -J DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:3333
[23:18] <Kaytoo> is it a good idea to encrypt your hd using turecrypt
[23:18] <tboat> reisio: I will read more about LVM and look into it
[23:19] <litepool> ormnemon iptables v1.4.12: unknown option "-J"
[23:19] <reisio> Kaytoo: that depends
[23:19] <tboat> 4 GB of 596 transferred, sigh. back to getting steam cards!
[23:19] <reisio> Kaytoo: are you afraid someone might access your data and this might get you into trouble?
[23:19] <litepool> mnemon
[23:19] <mnemon> litepool: accidentally capitalized it, should be -j
[23:20] <reisio> Kaytoo: and: do you need (or want) to "easily" access this potentially encrypted data from operating systems other than free Unixes?
[23:21] <CorruptedHelix> Hi, is there any way I can restore Ubuntu 13.04 to default settings (default packages and all) without reinstalling it? Maybe something similar to Windows 8's Refresh feature?
[23:21] <litepool> mnemon thanks!
[23:21] <litepool> iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `NAT': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[23:21] <litepool> though
[23:21] <Kaytoo> reisio:i just dont want my hd expose to the internet when i logon
[23:21] <mnemon> litepool: try nat
[23:22] <litepool> don't work :/
[23:23] <mnemon> litepool: does iptables -t nat -L work?
[23:24] <litepool> http://pastie.org/8087807 mnemon
[23:24] <litepool> should i flush it
[23:24] <mnemon> litepool: would probably be a good idea :)
[23:24] <CorruptedHelix> Hi, is there any way I can restore Ubuntu 13.04 to default settings (default packages and all) without reinstalling it? Maybe something similar to Windows 8's Refresh feature?
[23:25] <reisio> Kaytoo: truecrypt won't help at all with that
[23:25] <reisio> Kaytoo: unless by 'my hd' you mean an hd entirely separate from the one/s you use for your OS
[23:25] <litepool> mnemon ok i flushed it, still couldn't get that command to work though
[23:28] <Kaytoo> reisio:is it possible to encrypt the working hd over the net
[23:29] <CorruptedHelix> Hi, is there any way I can restore Ubuntu 13.04 to default settings (default packages and all) without reinstalling it? Maybe something similar to Windows 8's Refresh feature?
[23:30] <reisio> Kaytoo: hrmm?
[23:30] <reisio> CorruptedHelix: yes
[23:30] <reisio> CorruptedHelix: it might take longer than "reinstalling", though, depending
[23:30] <reisio> if you hadn't planned on doing it ahead of time, that is
[23:30] <CorruptedHelix> How so?
[23:31] <CorruptedHelix> Mostly, I want to nuke my 3rd party downloads from the software center, if that's possible instead.
[23:31] <reisio> CorruptedHelix: things that take less time to accomplish than other things do not take longer
[23:31] <CorruptedHelix> Because removing them one by one is painstaking.
[23:31] <withnale> I've bought a sandisk clip+ little mp3 player and having real trouble with it with ubuntu. I can boot it and see it in nautilus but whenever I try to sync to it from either rhythmbox or banshee both of them bomb out. Any ideas how to fix it? I've tried MSC and MTP mode
[23:31] <reisio> there's a log somewhere, /var/apt maybe
[23:32] <CorruptedHelix> What about the log?
[23:32] <CorruptedHelix> Actually? Let me boot out of Windows and into Ubuntu real fast... I'll be right back.
[23:35] <CorruptedHelix_> Okay, I'm back.
[23:35] <CorruptedHelix_> Gotta love how GNOME doesn't like AMD drivers. It's causing a lot of artifacts, too.
[23:36] <CorruptedHelix_> Didn't happen before I installed the drivers. Anyways, back on topic. How to nuke my software center installations or plainly refresh the OS without re-installing it?
[23:37] <Ari-Yang> <CorruptedHelix_> Gotta love how GNOME doesn't like AMD drivers. It's causing a lot of artifacts, too. ---> you using proprietary or open source?
[23:37] <CorruptedHelix> I got kicked...
[23:38] <Ari-Yang> <CorruptedHelix_> Gotta love how GNOME doesn't like AMD drivers. It's causing a lot of artifacts, too. ---> you using proprietary or open source?
[23:38] <CorruptedHelix> Proprietary. I typed that and I got kicked, by the way.
[23:38] <CorruptedHelix> I did it an an attempt to make Ubuntu a viable gaming OS, because I prefer it over Windows.
[23:39] <CorruptedHelix> Turns out my card sucks at rendering OpenGL anyways, so I had no hope with games
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, ah, yeah if you're a gamer, I guess you'd use fglrx. but if you aren't, go back to open source
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> it's better than fglrx
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> (fglrx had terrible 2d acceleration)
[23:39] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, what card do you have?
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> Please don't laugh.
[23:40] <Stars> hi, kinda off topic, does anyone know what software does protect DDoS attacks?
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, lspci | grep VGA in terminal
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> ATX 4200
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> O__o
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> Mobile
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> derp
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> What does that command do, fix my drivers? :p
[23:40] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, no it displays it, I prefer you to c/p the output after typing it in terminal
[23:41] <CorruptedHelix> Ah.
[23:41] <CorruptedHelix> Either will work, or do I copy the entire thing?
[23:41] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, type this whole thing in terminal: lspci | grep VGA in terminal
[23:41] <CorruptedHelix> Sure, after I find terminal.  It's been a while since I booted into Ubuntu since I got fed up trying to remove all the stuff KDE added.
[23:44] <CorruptedHelix> Yeah, fglrx. I searched that in the software center and downloaded the package.
[23:44] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, well if you tried out the proprietary driver, and you got glitches and what not and went back to open source, nothing you can do really
[23:45] <CorruptedHelix> I didn't uninstall it yet, nor was this my actual problem, you just jumped on it :p
[23:45] <CorruptedHelix> My original problem was if there was a way I could refresh Ubuntu 13.04 without reinstalling it (don't want to mess with partitions, if possible?), or simply nuking my third-party installs on the software center.
[23:46] <CorruptedHelix> You know, a way to refresh similar to how Windows 8 can.
[23:46]  * Ari-Yang shrugs
[23:46] <Ari-Yang> I'm not sure, guess it looks like you can google that while hanging tight here until someone can get to you with an answer
[23:47] <CorruptedHelix> Any easy way to get rid of everything KDE added, then?
[23:47] <CorruptedHelix> Way too much stuff.
[23:47] <mnemon> litepool: still complaining about the nat table?
[23:47] <litepool> yeah
[23:47] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, how did you remove KDE?
[23:47] <Ari-Yang> if I were you I would've run for e.g. sudo aptitude purge KDE
[23:47] <mnemon> because from the list you showed me it looks like it did add the stuff there ...
[23:47] <CorruptedHelix> I removed the KDE desktop enviroment via the software center, and it left everything behind, including LXDE.
[23:48] <Ari-Yang> or whatever KDE package is called
[23:48] <CorruptedHelix> Should I just reinstall it and then do that?
[23:48] <mnemon> litepool: see from iptables -t nat -L if the stuff is there
[23:48] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, you can do that, might as well seeing how you got everything else besides KDE...
[23:48] <CorruptedHelix> Uh, I'll remove fglrx first
[23:48] <CorruptedHelix> my eyes are bleeding
[23:49] <BAMbanda> How do I view any hidden .swp files that I may have in a directory?
[23:49] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, make sure you do it right
[23:49] <litepool> mnemon my friend told me to do  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 3333 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:3333 and then iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING  -j MASQUERADE before and he said it should work, but it didn't for some reason i don't know why
[23:49] <litepool> i think thats what added it, right now theres nothing there after flush mnemon
[23:49] <CorruptedHelix> I'm removing it the same way I installed it.
[23:49] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, I'd select the open source driver in additional drivers tab
[23:49] <Ari-Yang> which afaik replaces itself with fglrx
[23:50] <Ari-Yang> then reboot
[23:50] <mnemon> litepool: ok, so try adding it again and see if it appears there.
[23:50] <BAMbanda> how can I view hidden .swp files
[23:50] <CorruptedHelix> Where would I find that in the GNOME 2 environment? I was using GNOME 3, so it would be easier to find, but when I installed KDE it forced me into GNOME 2 regardless of which GNOME version I selected at the login menu
[23:51] <reisio> BAMbanda: view the contents?
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, check Software sources settings
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> there should be an 'Additional Drivers' tab
[23:52] <litepool> mnemon http://pastie.org/private/f7pkrrztuoqzrclfwzeoxq
[23:52] <BAMbanda> reisio, no but just if there is a .swp file somewhere in the directory. I'm trying to package a project and I think it might be interfering with the install
[23:52] <CorruptedHelix> Given that this is after I uninstalled fglrx, it now says there are no proprietary drivers in use
[23:52] <CorruptedHelix> Shall I reboot?
[23:53] <_______________-> CorruptedHelix, logout and login
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, yes reboot
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> make sure the open source driver is active
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> (in addtional drivers)
[23:53] <Ari-Yang> * additional
[23:53] <CorruptedHelix> All it shows me is a grayed out window and tells me there are no propriety drivers active
[23:54] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, http://gyazo.com/bbcb6b1dba1a4cb5a63ee30dcfb7b692
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> you don't see that?
[23:55] <reisio> BAMbanda: find start/path/ -iname '*swp*'
[23:55] <reisio> BAMbanda: find start/path/ -iname '*swp*' -o -iname '*~', etc.
[23:55] <Ari-Yang> x.org x server <-- CorruptedHelix that driver
[23:55] <CorruptedHelix> Don't see any of that.
[23:55] <BAMbanda> reisio, would it be hidden or should I be able to see it
[23:55] <mnemon> litepool: our friend was right except you need to specify the -d otherwise it might do funny things like rewrite the replies if the connection comes from port 3333
[23:56] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, well you could reboot now I guess, maybe ubuntu will automatically choose that for you?
[23:56] <reisio> BAMbanda: varies by editor that created them
[23:56] <mnemon> *your
[23:56] <BAMbanda> vim?
[23:56] <litepool> mnemon my other friend said i have to do sysctl goign to try that now
[23:56] <Ari-Yang> CorruptedHelix, open up synaptic
[23:57] <banzounet> Hey guys, where is the log file of apache ? cause when I try to reload the config (service apache2 reload) it fails, and I don't know where to look
[23:57] <Ari-Yang> and search for xserver-xorg
[23:57] <CorruptedHelix> Would the open source drivers be something I'd need to install? I didn't install anything like graphics drivers after I installed Ubuntu
[23:57] <CorruptedHelix> So it must've come with it.
[23:57] <CorruptedHelix> Anyways, I'll reboot.
[23:59] <BankZ> that terminal program do you guys like?  I am looking for something like iterm2 on the mac


[02:21] <Mithrandir> yay, manifests are now published properly together with the images
[03:20] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Hi. Could you please upload sapwood for me?
[03:21] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: sure
[03:21] <Mithrandir> just what's in bzr?
[03:23] <agoliveira> yes
[03:55] <agoliveira> yay2: Q1 up and running - mostly - I fully tested it with Tribe 4 and worked really nice. The image downloaded from cdimages mostly work but the local image have some kernel problem I guess as can't install it from the USB. It does not find the device /dev/sda.
[03:56] <Mithrandir> can you try the latest image from cdimage.u.c?
[03:56] <Mithrandir> it should work, but getting verification would be good
[03:57] <agoliveira> Have you forced a new one? I'm seeing a 20070810.3 there.
[03:59] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: I mean, I suppose this 20070810.3 is newer than 20070810...
[03:59] <Mithrandir> .3 is the newest one, yes.
[04:00] <agoliveira> Just to be sure, thatnks.
[04:00] <agoliveira> thanks
[05:39] <AlexUbuntuBcn> hi
[05:41] <AlexUbuntuBcn> where i can find info of ubuntu mobile please? i search for the www but i can't find any (only the new "canonical making a ubuntu mobile")
[05:55] <agoliveira> AlexUbuntuBcn: Hi. YOu can find all the info you need here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded and here http://moblin.org
[05:57] <AlexUbuntuBcn> thanks
[05:59] <AlexUbuntuBcn> you know if ubuntu mobile will work in an acer n30?
[06:04] <agoliveira> AlexUbuntuBcn: You can see in the links that I sent that this project is primarely to be used on x86 webpad-like gadgets. In theory, should be no problem to port to other platforms but there's nothing in our schedule so far.
[06:15] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: The latest image installed ok.
[08:24] <patm> agoliveira, are you there
[08:25] <agoliveira> patm: Hi Pat.
[08:25] <patm> agoliveira, sorry for missing the chat earlier
[08:25] <patm> agoliveira, I have a question for you, what controls the positioning of the plugins in the desktop
[08:25] <agoliveira> patm: To tell you the truth I think nobody went as you never confirmed.
[08:26] <agoliveira> patm: I don't know this level of the details regarding the interface. You should ask Rusty or Bob (Intel).
[08:27] <agoliveira> bobux: Bob, you're around?
[08:29] <patm> agoliveira, Hey I found it, thought I had seen it before
[08:29] <agoliveira> patm: Cool.
[08:29] <patm> agoliveira, /etc/hildon-desktop/*.conf
[08:30] <agoliveira> patm: Makes sense :)
[09:37] <wasabi> So is hildon usable yet? start-hildon is looking for mas and sapwood.... and seems to be unable to get X and matchbox going
[09:37] <wasabi> oh, i see... it's hard coded display numbers.
[10:08] <agoliveir1> wasaby: I suggest you check the information here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded
[10:11] <agoliveira> patm: Pat, just out of curiosity, you're in Massachusetts, right?
[10:15] <wasabi> yeah just read it
[10:16] <wasabi> Looks more like a mission statement more than any indication of progress.
[10:16] <wasabi> ahh found some links
[10:22] <wasabi> ahh, pretty much busted looking for me so far
[10:26] <agoliveira> wasabi: The project is it's infancy yet.
[10:27] <wasabi> Okay.