[00:00] <liveuser> what's a recommended size for '/' and '/home'? ubuntu is my secondary os and i do run a test server on it and would like some room but not too much. so i guess i want to know what minimum is so i can use a little more than that
[00:01] <sudokill> liveuser whats  the size of ur drive
[00:01] <sudokill> or free space
[00:02] <sudokill> u can prob get away with 3 or 4 gigs for root rest for home
[00:02] <liveuser> sudokill, my drive is 500 mbs
[00:02] <sudokill> nah too small
[00:02] <sudokill> way too small
[00:02] <astley> s3r3n1t7: i still get errors, http://pastebin.com/cNxEstTu
[00:02] <bluefire> desktop does not load after installing ATI graphics driver. Has anyone faced this problem?
[00:02] <sudokill> maybe something like damn small linux
[00:03] <sudokill> idk much about small distros but if ur new to linux u might find htem harder to use
[00:04] <liveuser> sudokill, how about 20500bs for / and 20500 for /home ?
[00:04] <sudokill> tell me the sizes properly
[00:04] <sudokill> idk what 20500bs is lol
[00:04] <sudokill> 20MB?
[00:04] <liveuser> 20gigs
[00:04] <sudokill> ah
[00:04] <sudokill> do 4gigs for root rest of the space for home
[00:05] <sudokill> or 6 gigs for root to be safe
[00:05] <liveuser> sudokill, thanks
[00:06] <astley> how do i edit a config.mk file to make a compile successfull?
[00:06] <yassine_hell> hey, how can i add a proxy in firefox, cuz i cant find the "options" in "tools"
[00:06] <sudokill> toll options network settings
[00:06] <sudokill> under advanced
 cant find "options"
[00:06] <sudokill> edit, preferences, advanced, network, settings
[00:07] <yassine_hell> thx :)
[00:08] <astley> how do i edit a config.mk file to make a compile successfull?
[00:10] <Vonhinten> Unfortunately, if it's not compiling successfully because the code itself is not compatible with changes in kernel code, then there's not much you're going to be able to do, short of figuring out what in the code changed and fixing it.
[00:10] <KaiDOg> What does a bad superblock mean?
[00:11] <sudokill> bad fs?
[00:11] <astley> Vonhinten: do i need to know code to fix it?
[00:11] <KaiDOg> sudokill, yes
[00:12] <sudokill> there you go then
[00:12] <KaiDOg> what does that mean?
[00:12] <Vonhinten> astley, unless someone else has details or patch diffs for you to fix it, yes...
[00:12] <sudokill> try fsck
[00:12] <astley> Vonhinten: how do i learn what the problem is?
[00:13] <Vonhinten> astley, well, start with the first error message
[00:13] <sudokill> ive never encountered it, but heres a link http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/recover-bad-superblock-from-corrupted-partition/
[00:13] <astley> Vonhinten: if i give you a paste bin of what you ask for would that help?
[00:13] <KaiDOg> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdc
[00:14] <Vonhinten> well, I could look at it, but I very likely can't fix the problem for you if it's code related
[00:14] <KaiDOg> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[00:14] <KaiDOg> filesystem.
[00:14] <KaiDOg> But my file is ext3, I don't know why it's looking at ext2
[00:14] <KaiDOg> drive rather, not file
[00:14] <itaylor57> astley, patstebin it
[00:15] <nimbiotics> is it possible to have ffmpeg and winff installed at the same time? I had winff and when when I tried to create a video with imagination I had to install ffmpeg and now I dont have winff.. TIA!
[00:15] <sudokill> KaiDOg, try googling it im not good with that youll prob find lot of answers
[00:15] <KaiDOg> ok
[00:16] <astley> itaylor57: i think it may have worked this time http://pastebin.com/DGR70EBX what do you think?
[00:16] <nimbiotics> solved
[00:17] <sudokill> astley looks ok
[00:17] <astley> sudokill: restart?
[00:17] <sudokill> do it anyway
[00:18] <sudokill> i havent followed exactly what ur doing
[00:19] <sudokill> unless ur running some server that needs to be up constantly just restart anyway
[00:19] <KaiDOg> sudokill: I figured it out. I left a 1 at the end of /dev/sdc1
[00:20] <KaiDOg> I left out the 1
[00:20] <sudokill> ah
[00:20] <sudokill> glad u solved it
[00:20] <KaiDOg> so all my data is okay! hora!
[00:20] <KaiDOg> lol me too
[00:20] <KaiDOg> so much shit I hadn't backed up yet.
[00:20] <sudokill> scary when filesystem stuff hepsn
[00:20] <sudokill> happens*
[00:20] <KaiDOg> yes, I will need to educate myself on this more
[00:20] <sudokill> im lucky ive never had any probs with hard drives /ssd
[00:21] <KaiDOg> me neither
[00:21] <sudokill> to me theyre most reliable part lol
[00:21] <ugarit> so I just updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and the user interface is very different.  How do I restore the 10.10 interface?
[00:21] <Vonhinten> astley, were you supposed to run 'make config' first, and did you?
[00:21] <sudokill> ubuntu classic
[00:21] <TrevInc> ssd wear out very quickly though :/
[00:21] <sudokill> ugarit, at the login screen choose classic
[00:21] <sudokill> nah they dont
[00:21] <TrevInc> ugarit: when you login at the bottom there is a bar that says Ubuntu
[00:22] <sudokill> only old ones do
[00:22] <TrevInc> select Ubuntu Classic from that box
[00:22] <Vonhinten> I've been using an SSD for my system partition for over a year
[00:22] <ugarit> sudokill TrevInc thank you
[00:22] <TrevInc> no problem ugarit, that was the first thing I wanted to do to :)
[00:22] <sudokill> the old ssd wear out fast is old
[00:22] <sudokill> new ones last as long if not longer than hdd apparently
[00:22] <sudokill> with trim and newer tech
[00:23] <TrevInc> I will keep that in mind when I build my fishtank computer
[00:23] <Vonhinten> and the real benefit, when they fail, you just can't write to them anymore, unless spinning drives, where you likely lose your data
[00:23] <astley> Vonhinten: this is the tutorial i'm doing i'm at the eigth instruction, not quite sure what i means http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/
[00:23] <sudokill> with baby oil? lol
[00:23] <astley> it\
[00:24] <sudokill> TrevInc, r u gona use mineral oil?
[00:24] <Usuario> please help with ICEauthoritation http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10874214#post10874214
[00:24] <TrevInc> sudokill, yes, for the internal box
[00:24] <sudokill> i saw those on overclock.net ages ago, didnt find out if they run cool or not
[00:25] <sudokill> they look very strange lol
[00:25] <TrevInc> it will be a mineral oil tank with artificial fish inside of a saltwater tank with anemones
[00:25] <TrevInc> and lights
[00:25] <sudokill> lol
[00:25] <sudokill> madness
[00:25] <KaiDOg> this is sparta!
[00:25] <TrevInc> the mineral oil is heavier than water so it's actually great protection from the water
[00:25] <KaiDOg> I haven't seen the movie yet
[00:25] <sudokill> its a gd film
[00:26] <coz_> ??
[00:26] <KaiDOg> i'll check it out on netflix
[00:26] <sudokill> is that what they call piratebay these days?
[00:26] <sudokill> lol
[00:27] <Vonhinten> there's no reason to dunk a PC in stuff these days, the latest intel chips can be OC'd to crazy GHz just on stock air cooling
[00:27] <coz_> !offtopic
[00:27] <sudokill> its a hobby i guess
[00:27] <sudokill> just something different
[00:27] <astley> Vonhinten: this is the tutorial i'm doing i'm at the eigth instruction, not quite sure what i means http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/
[00:27] <sudokill> artificial fish is a nice touch
[00:27] <ugarit> how do I make Ubuntu Classic the default for 11.04 ?
[00:27] <cba123> I have a mdadm raid5 on a 10.10 standard install that I'm using as a simple fileserver.  It had a hard freeze, now when I try to assemble my raid using "sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde /dev/sdf1" it says /dev/md0 assembled from 2 drives - not enough to start the array.  Gparted sees the drives, but idk where to go from here.  Any ideas?
[00:27] <sudokill> login screen
[00:27] <Vonhinten> astley, well, keep going then, see if it works
[00:27] <coz_> ugarit,  simply log off  and then log onto classic
[00:28] <astley> Vonhinten: not sure what it means there..
[00:28] <vinic> i just installed 11.04 fresh, the default resolution seems to be way too high, i can only see about two pixels at the top of the screen. is there a way i can drop the resolution via hotkey?
[00:28] <coz_> ugarit,  although,, I dont think classic is going to be available in the next release
[00:28] <astley> Vonhinten: do i copy files?
[00:28] <sudokill> vinic not by hotkey
[00:28] <Vonhinten> astley, it's saying make install does
[00:28] <coz_> vinic,  I would go into system/preferences/monitors and see if you can do it there
[00:29] <vinic> i can't see anything coz
[00:29] <sudokill> vinic have u tried rebooting
[00:29] <vinic> yes
[00:29] <sudokill> ur pretty buggered then tbh
[00:29] <vinic> tried connecting a monitor to the hdmi, same result
[00:29] <sudokill> maybe some setting from a livecd
[00:29] <astley> how do i edit etc/modules?
[00:30] <astley> Vonhinten: that was to you sorry
[00:31] <Vonhinten> sudo gedit /etc/modules
[00:31] <sudokill> gksudo for gd practice
[00:32] <peto_> buenas noches
[00:32] <luite> I have a process that runs as a normal user (might be started as root), it forks off a child, and the user id of the child should be changed into a less privileged user, and filesystem access restricted to some directory. is this possible somehow?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Vonhinten: gksudo for gedit, not sudo
[00:33] <Vonhinten> or, gksudo is more correct, but is sudo incorrect?
[00:33] <Vonhinten> or=ok
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !gksudo
[00:34] <sudokill> sudo prob kok but gk uses roots configs for root apps
[00:34] <sudokill> use gk for all gui apps
[00:34] <astley> Vonhinten: it says ad a line to /etc/modules from the end of a file in instruction 10 of this tutorial, http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/ what do they mean?
[00:35] <sudokill> it means add the line
[00:35] <astley> which line?
[00:35] <astley> from where
[00:35] <sudokill> the wifi name
[00:35] <sudokill> it tells u
[00:35] <astley> in which directory?
[00:35] <sudokill> modules
[00:35] <astley> where is that, in my home folder?
[00:35] <Vonhinten> heh
[00:35] <sudokill> etc
[00:35] <astley> where?
[00:36] <sudokill> "<astley> Vonhinten: it says ad a line to /etc/modules"
[00:36] <Vonhinten> astley, /etc/modules is a file ;)
[00:36] <sudokill> gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[00:36] <astley> ok, how do i locate that file and what line do i add from where?
[00:37] <astley> Vonhinten: i have the file, now what line?
[00:37] <astley> do i add
[00:37] <Vonhinten> astley, the instructions are quite clear
[00:37] <sudokill> just add it to the botom of the file
[00:38] <sudokill> anywhere
[00:38] <astley> he says add the line at the end of this file, but he doesn't say what line
[00:38] <sudokill> the end
[00:38] <sudokill> inb4 rickrolled
[00:38] <Vonhinten> it does say what line
[00:38] <astley> i'm trying to be careful and concise
[00:38] <astley> no my last name is astley
[00:38] <sudokill> its fine
[00:38] <Vonhinten> notice the:  rt5390sta
[00:38] <sudokill> just go to the end of the file and add it
[00:38] <astley> ok
[00:38] <Vonhinten> right after it tells you to add the line
[00:39] <astley> thatnks, that wan't proper grammer the way he said it
[00:40] <sudokill> astley looks like ur almost there
[00:41] <the-gibson> quick question, is there a way of killing a program based on memory utilization?
[00:41] <the-gibson> when streaming my VLC randomly explodes and starts eating up all my memory
[00:41] <Vonhinten> That's interesting that sudo causes problems.
[00:42] <sudokill> i dont know the answer, but do u mean if it reaches a certain amount of ram, kill it?
[00:42] <rationalOgre> the-gibson: Like if it starts using using X amount of memory, kill it?
[00:42] <the-gibson> rational0gre: yes
[00:42] <sudokill> the-gibson, how much ram od u have?
[00:42] <Vonhinten> This article doesn't explain WHY sudo would result in an application using user configuration files instead of root configuration files though...
[00:42] <the-gibson> 4 gb
[00:42] <sudokill> vlc should eat hardly any
[00:43] <astley> ok, i'm going to reboot now
[00:43] <sudokill> id look into that rather than workarounds
[00:43] <the-gibson> its an issue with VLC
[00:43] <the-gibson> it happens on 2 of my ubuntu systems
[00:43] <rationalOgre> the-gibson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1417134
[00:43] <the-gibson> it will eat all ram and then start eating swap until everything is frozen solid
[00:43] <sudokill> dno if the vlc update fixed that, couple oin last 2 days
[00:44] <the-gibson> hmm hyea i saw some bug reports
[00:44] <the-gibson> thanks rationalOgre
[00:44]  * rationalOgre 's google-fu is strong. :D
[00:44] <the-gibson> haha yes mine failed me
[00:44] <sudokill> the-gibson, make sure its up to date first if u havent already
[00:45] <rationalOgre> the-gibson: First hit on "ubuntu kill process based on memory utiliztion"
[00:45] <mugimugicat> hi!
[00:45] <the-gibson> i ran update this morning and it just hit me again
[00:45] <the-gibson> ill double check
[00:45] <sudokill> ah idk try that script ogre linked to
[00:45] <rationalOgre> Woops, sorry, kill program not process
[00:45] <the-gibson> yea i am hehe
[00:45] <mugimugicat> i'am looking for ubuntu 10.4 netbook edition
[00:45] <sudokill> 11.04?
[00:45] <the-gibson> yea buts an easy edit
[00:46] <sudokill> if u mean that its gone
[00:46] <the-gibson> yes and on a 10.10 system
[00:46] <the-gibson> though the 10.10 system hasnt been updated in a few days
[00:46] <mugimugicat> nobosy?
[00:46] <astley> i still dont see ra0 interface, maybe i did something wrong
[00:46] <mugimugicat> nobody?
[00:46] <sudokill> mugimugicat, do u mean 11.04
[00:46] <rationalOgre> mugimugicat: 1http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[00:46] <rationalOgre> woops http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[00:47] <rationalOgre> look for 10.04 -netbook-i386.iso.torrent on there
[00:47] <sudokill> afaik they got rid of netbook edition and made it a single version
[00:47] <sudokill> ah sorry
[00:47] <mugimugicat> thank you rational0gre
[00:48] <rationalOgre> sudokill: They rolled it into 11.04 essentially.
[00:48] <sudokill> yea
[00:48] <mugimugicat> sorry for my bad english i'm french .. i'm goign to try this i(ll be back
[00:48] <rationalOgre> mugimugicat: NP.
[00:48] <sudokill> soz was my eyes
[00:48] <mugimugicat> it mean No Probelm? lol
[00:48] <rationalOgre> mugimugicat: Yes it does.
[00:48] <rationalOgre> :)
[00:48] <astley> Network manager still doesn't recognize my wireless card after i did the procedure in this tutorial http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/
[00:49] <nixjr> how do i run somehting in the terminal but not have to close when i close the terminal window?
[00:49] <sudokill> astley it says u might have to restart network to get it to rcognise it
[00:49] <satonio> hi. im getting OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer after upgrading to 11.04, what should i do? my card is a radeon x1950gt
[00:50] <astley> sudokill: http://pastebin.com/Kz4qCmas thats the output i get when i try
[00:50] <hiexpo> nixjr, what you tring to run
[00:50] <mugimugicat> hi, i'am back, have you a link for this version? no torrent.
[00:50] <mugimugicat> direct link
[00:51] <nixjr> hiexpo, something crashed and my bored decorations are gone, im running "metacity --replace" to get them back, but i dont want the terminal window
[00:51] <sudokill> restart network-manager
[00:51] <nixjr> border*
[00:51] <sudokill> mugimugicat, http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso
[00:52] <Technicality> does anybody know what the program and service called "http" do?
[00:52] <mugimugicat> Thank You ! you're awesome
[00:52] <astley> sudokill: http://pastebin.com/QqZeJKzm now i got that, any clue? thank you by the way
[00:53] <itaylor57> nixjr, nohup <file> > nohup.out 2>1&
[00:53] <mrpatg> I have a question about the tray/system notifications in ubuntu 11 (gnome desktop)
[00:53] <sudokill> astley sudo restart network-manager
[00:53] <Vonhinten> astley, just reboot
[00:53] <mugimugicat> Good night every body , you come in paris when you want ,!! you're welcom
[00:53] <nixjr> itaylor57, im sorry you lost me there
[00:54] <sudokill> mugimugicat, thanks
[00:54] <sudokill> lol
[00:54] <mrpatg> Whenever i mouseover them, they disappear and reappear when i move my mouse away. Is that supposed to happen, or am i supposed to be able to click and make them disappear?
[00:54] <sudokill> mrpatg, sounds like graphic problem
[00:54] <itaylor57> nixjr, ising nohup willkeep the program running even  if you close the termanal try man nohu[
[00:54] <itaylor57> nixjr, ising nohup willkeep the program running even  if you close the termanal try man nohup
[00:54] <mrpatg> everything else works fine. Is there any way to manage how the notifications behave, or some other kind of notification manager?
[00:55] <sudokill> mrpatg, maybe its supposed to do that idk
[00:56] <nixjr> itaylor57, im not using a file so would i just do:  nohup metacity --replace > nohup.out 2>1&
[00:56] <rationalOgre> mrpatg: Are you talking about the boxes that appear in the upper right corner of the screen from time to time?
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> mrpatg, what you are describing is "working as designed"
[00:56] <rationalOgre> mrpatg: Like the ones that say "network "something" connected" or what not?
[00:56] <mrpatg> rationalOgre: yes
[00:56] <mrpatg> yep
[00:57] <rationalOgre> mrpatg: Oh, then that is how they are supposed to work.
[00:57] <rationalOgre> When you mouseover them they fade out
[00:57] <beyond_> how do you change ip address?
[00:57] <rationalOgre> They are there for informational purposes only
[00:57] <rationalOgre> You don't really interact with them.
[00:57] <itaylor57> nixjr, I missunderstoodyour question, running that command should return to to the prompt, it shouldn't hang
[00:57] <rationalOgre> beyond_: set a static IP address?
[00:57] <mrpatg> Its kind of annoying, not being able to control them, and have them 'cowardly' disappear when i try to, lol
[00:58] <sudokill> lol
[00:58] <beyond_> i don't really know too much
[00:58] <beyond_> about it
[00:58] <rationalOgre> beyond_: or set your router to recognize your mac address and give you a specific IP address.
[00:58] <astlet> i still dont get ra0 interface when i do ifconfig after this tutorial http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/
[00:58] <beyond_> woah baby steps
[00:58] <rationalOgre> If you are asking for a new WAN ip address, you'll probably have to speak with your ISP and/or reboot your modem.
[00:58] <beyond_> no basically my ip on my laptop
[00:58] <sudokill> beyond, have u got internet connection now?
[00:58] <beyond_> yes
[00:59] <sudokill> u just want to have a set ip?
[00:59] <rationalOgre> beyond_: So your local network IP address.
[00:59] <beyond_> yes
[00:59] <nixjr> itaylor57, when i close the terminal window, it ends "metacity --replace", i just want to be able to run that command and close the terminal window with metacity --replace still running in the background
[00:59] <beyond_> i think i have an ip address
[00:59] <rationalOgre> beyond_: Wifi or Wired?
[00:59] <beyond_> how do i change it
[00:59] <beyond_> wifi
[00:59] <sudokill> beyond im not sure where it is it changes all the time but in the system settings there sohuld be a network manager somewhere
[00:59] <beyond_> or is it something set in stone (etched on silicone]
[01:00] <rationalOgre> beyond_: No, it's being set via DHCP most likely right now
[01:00] <astlet> i'll wait a few minutes then i'll ask again
[01:00] <sudokill> beyond, if u find the network manager, ull see ip settings
[01:00] <sudokill> if u get that far let me know
[01:00] <beyond_> network tools?
[01:00] <sudokill> yes
[01:00] <sudokill> no
[01:00] <rationalOgre> beyond_: Look in the upper righthand corner of your screen, see the thing that represents your wireless connection?
[01:00] <beyond_> ok
[01:00] <beyond_> yes
[01:00] <rationalOgre> Right click it
[01:00] <rationalOgre> You should get a list
[01:01] <rationalOgre> One of the options will be Edit Connections
[01:01] <beyond_> ok
[01:01] <rationalOgre> Should pop up a screen that says "Network Connections" at the top
[01:01] <rationalOgre> Click on the tab that says Wireless
[01:01] <beyond_> whats a vpn
[01:01] <beyond_> ok
[01:01] <rationalOgre> Virtual Private Network, don't worry about that now.
[01:02] <beyond_> alrighty
[01:02] <rationalOgre> Ok, select the one that says Auto <yournetworkname>
[01:02] <rationalOgre> Like Auto myhomenetwork
[01:02] <rationalOgre> Just by left clicking on it.
[01:02] <beyond_> ok
[01:02] <beyond_> MTU: automatic
[01:02] <beyond_> ?
[01:02] <rationalOgre> The greyed out "edit" button to the right should become automatic
[01:03] <rationalOgre> Sorry, clickable, not automatic
[01:03] <astlet> i still dont get ra0 interface when i do ifconfig after this tutorial http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/
[01:03] <rationalOgre> Click on the tab that says IPv4 Configuration
[01:03] <rationalOgre> or IPv4 Settings
[01:03] <sudokill> astlet, did u blacklist anything?
[01:03] <beyond_> okay automatic dchp
[01:03] <rationalOgre> Method probably says Automatic (dhcp)
[01:04] <rationalOgre> beyond_: Curious, why do you need a static IP?
[01:04] <rationalOgre> before we go further
[01:04] <astlet> sudokill: maybe not, i'll check, thanks
[01:04] <sudokill> maybe fror opening ports
[01:04] <beyond_> good question
[01:04] <rationalOgre> sudokill: Possibly
[01:04] <sudokill> lol
[01:04] <sudokill> beyond dont even know
[01:04] <beyond_> well lets just say i'm very new to irc
[01:04] <sudokill> use dhcp if not sure that way easier
[01:04] <beyond_> started yesterday
[01:04] <rationalOgre> beyond_: Ok.
[01:04] <sWaT_hUm4N> ubuntu cant write an iso to my dvd-r
[01:05] <rationalOgre> So what gave you the idea that you needed a static IP?
[01:05] <beyond_> i don't know
[01:05] <beyond_> just checking it out i suppose
[01:05] <sudokill> beyond, ststic ip is good fomr home network but i guess dhcp may be better if ur using public wifi
[01:05] <beyond_> whats the difference
[01:05] <rationalOgre> Ah, well, this is where you would do it then, though I would not suggest it unless you know what you are doing
[01:05] <sudokill> dhcp gives u random ip static is always same
[01:05] <astlet> sudokill: this is my blacklist http://pastebin.com/5CC8qtV8
[01:05] <beyond_> i see i see
[01:06] <rationalOgre> If you want to play with it I can walk you through it.
[01:06] <sudokill> beyond, dhcp just hands out ips to people so they dont have to set up their own
[01:06] <rationalOgre> sudokill: It also does things like setting the gateway and dns stuff.
[01:06] <beyond_> huh
[01:06] <sudokill> yea
[01:06] <sudokill> beyond, it just sets up your ip settings for u
[01:07] <beyond_> okay i guess i got some reading to do first
[01:07] <rationalOgre> DHCP does that is
[01:07] <beyond_> thanks all
[01:07] <sudokill> if u choose static ull have to enter ur ip, router ip, subnet dns etc
[01:07] <farmer_> Hi, I've just installed GNOME 3 on an EEE PC, removing unity. When I try to log in to GNOME 3, I get a problem error with no description and a log out button. Is this a known problem?
[01:07] <rationalOgre> beyond_: NP, googling for "home network static vs dynamic ip" might be useful.
[01:07] <beyond_> ok thanks again
[01:07] <sudokill> farmer, what error?
[01:07] <sudokill> what happens at log in screen
[01:08] <rationalOgre> farmer_: Does it give an error code or anything?
[01:08] <astlet> sudokill: anything?
[01:08] <cba123> I have a mdadm raid5 on a 10.10 standard install that I'm using as a simple fileserver.  I'm trying to assemble it after rebooting, and all I get is either "2 devices are not enough to start the drive" or "cannot open /dev/foo1: Device or resource busy"
[01:08] <farmer_> sudokill, rationalOgre, no, it's simply a generic "A problem has occured" GNOME 3 error with a button to log out. No other information.
[01:08] <sudokill> uh idk sorry
[01:09] <sudokill> prob some settings messed when u switched
[01:09] <rationalOgre> farmer_: Drop to a terminal and open up /etc/log and poke around
[01:09] <astlet> sudokill: me?
[01:09] <sudokill> im useless i know
[01:09] <farmer_> rationalOgre, will do
[01:09] <sudokill> astlet brb
[01:09] <wurmt0ngue> can someone help me out, my battery meter doesnt show up in the ui on a fresh ubuntu install, its also not an option to add as an applet
[01:09] <rationalOgre> astlet: what's the output of ifconfig? (paste it somewheres)
[01:10] <farmer_> rationalOgre, /etc/log doesn't exist
[01:10] <sudokill> astlet, did u even use rt2800 thing before? if so u dont need it in blacklist but it wont hurt
[01:10] <sudokill> var/log
[01:10] <rationalOgre> wurmt0ngue: System>preferences>power management> general tab
[01:10] <sudokill> farmer, try cat /var/log/messages
[01:10] <rationalOgre> farmer_: Woops, sorry /var/log
[01:11] <rationalOgre> my bad. Was thinking of two things at once.
[01:11] <astlet> sudokill: http://pastebin.com/7J2CqTUZ
[01:11] <astlet> sudokill: never used it before nope
[01:11] <rationalOgre> sudokill: better 'less /var/log/messages'
[01:11] <sudokill> astlet, so it's working now?
[01:11] <sudokill> rationalOgre, yea i suppose i just agve a random one llo
[01:11] <astlet> sudokill: no
[01:12] <sudokill> i normally use tail
[01:12] <sudokill> astlet hang on ill look
[01:12] <farmer_> rationalOgre, thanks anyway, will remove gnome and reinstall unity
[01:12] <rationalOgre> farmer_: no worries.
[01:12] <Jygga> what could be the reason for cron not checking /etc/cron.d/somefile ? im on 10.4 server
[01:14] <rationalOgre> astlet: 'lshw | grep -i wireless' output?
[01:14] <rationalOgre> Jygga: Did you update your cronttab?
[01:15] <rationalOgre> *crontab
[01:15] <sudokill> astlet do dmesg | grep eth0
[01:15] <sin_tax> Anyone care to help me with a (hopefully) quick Unity issue?  I've got 2 icons for Minecraft in my 'installed programs' area but I've only put one entry into my /usr/share/applications
[01:16] <rationalOgre> Jygga: Under cron.d are subdirectories, you put the scripts in there.
[01:16] <rationalOgre> like cron.hourly
[01:16] <sin_tax> I did use an installer which may have placed a .desktop file elsewhere but I can't find it... Any way to get details of an icon that is in Unity? Seems like I should be able to right click for details but I can't
[01:16] <astlet> rationalOgre: http://pastebin.com/U7JmWgpS
[01:17] <rationalOgre> Jygga: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[01:17] <mrpatg> Ubuntu 11.04 is giving me weird microphone lag. Slow pickup, and cutting off before im finished talking (in sound recorder)
[01:17] <rationalOgre> astlet: So it's not seeing it on your system at all
[01:17] <astlet> sudokill: http://pastebin.com/i7c9gE4s
[01:17] <luite> is it possible for a process (running as user/group nobody) to do something in order to prevent it and its children from running any setuid files (either through restricting filesystem access, or some flag that just prevents this directly)
[01:18] <astlet> rationalOgre: what are the implications, can i do a troubleshoot?
[01:18] <TrevInc> Irony is the fact that I usually join this channel from a Win7 x64 box
[01:18] <sudokill> :)
[01:18] <eb3ha4el> TrevInc: what is x64 Box?
[01:18] <rationalOgre> astlet: Pondering, I'm not the best at this stuff.
[01:18] <eb3ha4el> TrevInc: X Box? Game console?
[01:18] <sudokill> 64 bit leetness
[01:18] <Jygga> ye thanks for trying rationalOgre
[01:19] <rationalOgre> luite: beyond my ken, sir. Sorry.
[01:20] <rationalOgre> Jygga: Read that link I gave, it gives a pretty in-depth explanation of using Cron
[01:20] <Jygga> i did, several times
[01:20] <eb3ha4el> sudokill: were you saying that to me? what is leetness btw?
[01:20] <luite> rationalOgre: no prob :) I already found the answer to the first part of my first question by the way (a combination of setuid+setgid bits on the executable where the owner is the more privileged user, and starting the program as the less priviledged one)
[01:20] <sudokill> astlet, try blacklisting the RTL8102e
[01:20] <sudokill> and restart
[01:21] <sudokill> replace it with the useless blacklist u added earlier
[01:21] <sudokill> replace the one u aded earlier rather
[01:22] <Jygga> doesnt explain why cron doesnt pick up the file, im setting up rsnapshot and aptitude actually created /etc/cron.d/rsnapshot during installation
[01:22] <Jygga> but its not touched
[01:22] <astlet> sudokill: with caps locks on "rt"?
[01:22] <sudokill> just paste the one
[01:22] <mrpatg> Ubuntu 11.04 is giving me weird microphone lag. Slow pickup, and cutting off before im finished talking (in sound recorder)
[01:22] <rkvirani> sudokill: I think I will install windows just so I can get itunes back
[01:22] <rationalOgre> astlet: is it a USB wireless adapter or PCI?
[01:22] <rkvirani> this really isnt working...
[01:23] <sudokill> rkvirani, didnt audex work?
[01:23] <Jygga> actually there are other files in there that are touched every minute ...
[01:23] <rkvirani> audex runs into problems in 1/5 CDs I give it
[01:23] <sudokill> problems how?
[01:23] <sudokill> read problems?
[01:23] <rkvirani> it says that it cant encode and that I should wait....
[01:23] <astlet> rkvirani: it's a part of my system intrisically, no usb
[01:24] <sudokill> rkvirani, whats the error
[01:24] <sudokill> is that all it says?
[01:24] <sudokill> cant encode?
[01:24] <rkvirani> I dont care, I just want it to work
[01:24] <sin_tax> Is there an easy way to find the 'details' or 'source' of an icon in the Unity programs menu? 11.04 if it makes a difference
[01:24] <sudokill> did u choose what to encode to? mp3, flac etc?
[01:25] <mrpatg> just in playback
[01:25] <mrpatg> and ive tried different encodings
[01:25] <rkvirani> sudokill: yeah
[01:25] <rkvirani> mp3
[01:25] <rkvirani> normal quality
[01:25] <sudokill> ok
[01:25] <sudokill> try 1 more and tell me the error pls
[01:25] <rkvirani> there are so many solutiosn for this with linux and they all are broken some how
[01:26] <rkvirani> so fragmented
[01:26] <sudokill> rkvirani, its only because ur new
[01:26] <sudokill> its not full of problems and fixes
[01:26] <sudokill> i never had a single problem with audex
[01:26] <rationalOgre> astlet: then 'lspci | grep -i wireless" and see if anything pops up.
[01:26] <sudokill> its probably something silly
[01:27] <astley> sudokill: still no luck, i wonder if i did make or make install wrong?
[01:27] <rkvirani> yeah.. I though this stuff was to the point where it just worked...
[01:27] <rkvirani> sudokill: I have an LPIC-2
[01:27] <rkvirani> thank you.
[01:28] <ChronicSyncope> how do you backspace in vi?
[01:28] <rationalOgre> Jygga: I don't know I'm afraid. Perhaps moving it or symlinking it into /etc/cron.daily (weekly/hourly/whatever)
[01:28] <rkvirani> I've just never done multimedia stuff with linux
[01:28] <rationalOgre> ChronicSyncope: In insert mode? hit backspace
[01:28] <sudokill> astley it looked ok to me didnt error
[01:28] <sudokill> rkvirani dont be put off
[01:28] <rkvirani> sudokill: perhaps to the whole ipod thing I guess I am new.
[01:28] <sudokill> ahh maybe u need restricted extras
[01:28] <rationalOgre> ChronicSyncope: If you are not in insert mode then h should move your cursor backwards.
[01:29] <sudokill> sudo apt-get install restricted-extras
[01:29] <sudokill> or ubuntu-restrcied-ectras cant remember
[01:29] <ChronicSyncope> rationalOgre, I pressed insert on my keyboard a few times, it didn't seem to fix the problem
[01:29] <astley> sudokill: what do you mean?
[01:29] <sudokill> rkvirani,
[01:29] <rationalOgre> Hit the letter I on your keyboard to go to insert mode in VI
[01:29] <MGMT> Terminator is acting weird in the unity dock
[01:29] <sudokill> sorry astley i meant someone else
[01:30] <ChronicSyncope> rationalOgre, oh, well i was already in insert mode, or so i thought. I pressed i until it let me type.
[01:30] <rkvirani> sudokill: how would the extras repo fix this?
[01:30] <sudokill> it instaklls mp3 stuff
[01:30] <MGMT> it keeps opening new instances instead of showing my current open instance
[01:30] <rationalOgre> ChronicSyncope: you might do better to use Nano unless you actually wish to learn vi
[01:30] <sudokill> that might be why ur having encode probs idk
[01:30] <ChronicSyncope> rationalOgre, after i installed vim from repos it started behaving like i expected, but vi was just acting really strange.
[01:30] <zvacet> rkvirani: in ubuntu software center fins ubuntu restricted extras and install it
[01:30] <ChronicSyncope> rationalOgre, i've been using vi for a while, i don't think it was working correctly.
[01:30] <ChronicSyncope> i was just wondering if i got some setting stuck on that i'd never used before.
[01:31] <sudokill> rkvirani, try installing that then see if it works
[01:31] <rkvirani> Ill commen tit out of my apt-sources.list and run apt-get upgrade
[01:31] <rationalOgre> ChronicSyncope: It's possible. Sometimes they compile it with wierd options for when you run it as vi instead of vim
[01:31] <astley> 5 hours later
[01:31] <rkvirani> I dont think thats the problem though
[01:31] <rkvirani> sudokill: its already enabled
[01:31] <n4cht> does anyone know how to move the dock provided by gnome-shell-extension-dock to the left, or the bottom?
[01:32] <zvacet> rkvirani: leave source list just install that package
[01:32] <sudokill> rkvirani, ok, try ripping to a different format like flac see if it works
[01:32] <astley> after following this tutorial i still dont get a ra0 interface http://ubuntulinux.co.in/blog/ubuntu/wifi-card-ralink-5390-configuration-in-ubuntu-10-10-64-bit/
[01:32] <n4cht> astley: i can help you with that.
[01:32] <n4cht> it's not going to be ra0
[01:32] <n4cht> try eth0 or eth1
[01:32] <astley> n4cht: thank you :)
[01:33] <quem> hm, does anyone know if having more than one backup location might become a feature of deja-dup in the near future? :)
[01:33] <sudokill> astley, did u try blacklist the driver like i said?
[01:33]  * n4cht has a compaq presario CQ56-219WM with the Ralink 5390
[01:33] <zvacet> rkvirani: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:33] <astley> n4cht: try? how do you try it?
[01:33] <astley> sudokill: yes
[01:34] <sudokill> astley, maybe n4acht can help not sure what else to say
[01:34] <astley> n4cht: http://pastebin.com/yE8yD36M thats my output from ifconfig
[01:35] <n4cht> astley: 1) add the old driver to blacklist, 2) modprobe rt5390sta (assuming you compiled and installed the module), 3) press fn+wifi button to make sure it's on. (should turn white instead of orange)
[01:35] <rationalOgre> astley: Did you run lspci | grep -i wireless?
[01:35] <astley> yes, i gave that to you rationalOgre
[01:35] <rationalOgre> you did lshw
[01:36] <rationalOgre> I may have missed the lspci response one
[01:36] <astley> n4cht: http://pastebin.com/GDtPfhQb
[01:36] <astley> n4cht:
[01:37] <astley> n4cht: maybe i didn't compile correctly
[01:37] <delinquentme_> SHA1's can be used to check the quality of a dataset post transfer right?
[01:37] <n4cht> astley: hang on a sec... i'm going to pop a copy of it already compiled onto my webserver for you, with a simple install script.
[01:37] <rationalOgre> astley: dmesg | grep rt5390
[01:39] <astley> rationalOgre: http://pastebin.com/kEhQimU5
[01:40] <n4cht> astley: http://wretched.ws/natty/wireless.tar.gz    grab that, open terminal, 'tar xf wireless.tar.gz', 'cd wireless' then 'sudo ./install'
[01:40] <n4cht> i wouldn't normally reccommend this method, but since i have the same laptop and have tested this method, i know it works.
[01:41] <n4cht> i'm actually working on a .deb package for tha Ralink rt5390sta module right now, but i've never made .deb packages before so it's slow-going.
[01:42] <lolmatic> hi, im running apache2 on ubuntu desktop for development and i want to edit files from within an editor and i don't want to use some kind of ftp server. how can i transfer the www folder to the users home?
[01:42] <rationalOgre> n4cht: Nice little script
[01:42] <n4cht> rationalOgre: way sloppy, but for this *exact* model, it gets the job done.  lol.
[01:43] <rationalOgre> n4cht: meh, as long as it works.
[01:43] <MrCartel> Anyone know why --scale does not work on xrandr
[01:43] <astley> n4cht: it says installation complete when i type modprobe i get this http://pastebin.com/NuegLB06
[01:44] <sudokill> astley make sure ur in right dir when u untar
[01:44] <sudokill> it didnt do it
[01:45] <rationalOgre> lolmatic: cp -r /some/www/directory /home/whomever/directory/you/want/to/copy/to
[01:45] <sudokill> my bad
[01:45] <sudokill> lol
[01:45] <n4cht> huh.  weird.  i've tested it on two different CQ56's, and 4 different natty installs.
[01:45] <rkvirani> sudokill: set the setting to never skip over an error. I wanted error correction, does this do that?
[01:46] <sudokill> rkvirani, yes check the "enable cdparanoia" checkbox
[01:46] <astley> sudokill: then why is there an unzipped folder wireless in my downloads?
[01:46] <n4cht> astley: i'm going to modify the config.mk file for the module source, and upload that to wretched.ws
[01:46] <sudokill> astley dw
[01:46] <n4cht> and then you can try make && make install, and it should work.
[01:46] <astley> sudokill: dw?
[01:46] <rationalOgre> n4cht: He's doing 10.10, not 11.04 if memory serves.
[01:46] <lolmatic> rationalOgre: i know how to copy files. the point is that i want the apache to serve the files from within the home folder
[01:46] <HelloWorld321> Couple questions about the new Unity desktop ... in "Recent Documents" can you do anything with the documents besides open them with the default application?  View their properties or open them with an alternate application?
[01:46] <sudokill> dnt worry
[01:47] <lolmatic> should i just do a symlink to the home folder?
[01:47] <astley> 11.04
[01:47] <astley> n4cht: pm?
[01:47] <rationalOgre> lolmatic: then edit your apache2.conf and point it at the folder you want to use
[01:48] <HelloWorld321> in "Recent Documents" can you do anything with the documents besides open them with the default application?  View their properties or open them with an alternate application?
[01:50] <n4cht> astley:  http://wretched.ws/natty/2010_1216_RT5390_LinuxSTA_V<IP_ADDRESS>_WiFiBTCombo_DPO.tar.gz       ... all you gotta do is extract that, 'cd 2010*'  and type 'make && make install'
[01:50] <rationalOgre> lolmatic: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[01:50] <n4cht> that should do it.
[01:50] <n4cht> and yes, astley you can pm me.  :)
[01:50]  * n4cht already modified the config.mk for the correct settings, etc.
[01:51] <Flannel> lolmatic: ~/public_html/* becomes http://server/~yourusername/* with userdir module enabled
[01:51] <astley> actually i'm not quite sure how to pm lol
[01:51] <king313> asteig, /query n4cht
[01:52] <blbrown_win3> I am configuring grub2.  Grub can't find the partition I installed my OS to.  How do I find the id?
[01:52] <n4cht> lol.. sorry astley   i'll make it easy for you..
[01:52] <fez> dyar
[01:53] <Jygga> this is killing me
[01:53] <cba123> I have a mdadm raid5 on a 10.10 standard install.  I'm trying to assemble it after rebooting, and all I get is either "2 devices are not enough to start the drive" or "cannot open /dev/foo1: Device or resource busy" anyone familiar with mdadm?
[01:54] <lolcat> cba123:  us mdadm
[01:54] <mrpatg> anyone help me with a pulse audio problem in 11.04?
[01:54] <SpaceBass> cba123, whats mdadm -D say?
[01:55] <caesium_> disconnect
[01:55] <cba123> SpaceBass, "sudo mdadm -d /dev/sdb1" says that sdb1 doesn't appear to be an md device, and when I do /dev/md0 it doesn't appear to be active
[01:57] <thomi> Is there an IRC channel for problems related to creating debian packages? Ii can't seem to find one.
[01:57] <Flannel> thomi: #ubuntu-packaging
[01:57] <SpaceBass> cba123, cat /proc/mdstat
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> thomi: look into checkinstall
[01:58] <hoss> Anyone know why I am getting the following update errors: "Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_11.0.696.68-r84545_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:58] <hoss> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/im-switch/im-switch_1.20ubuntu3.1_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[01:58] <thomi> Flannel: Cheers
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> mrpatg: wassup? Just ask the channel, if anoyone knows they will reply
[01:58] <lolmatic> Flannel: how do i enable the userdir module?
[01:58] <Flannel> lolmatic: It may already be enabled, but "sudo a2enmod userdir" and then restart apache
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> hoss: maybe they are updating the files
[01:59] <cba123> SpaceBass, http://pastebin.com/Uyrc1hFp but my raid is always on /dev/md0
[01:59] <hoss> ActionParsnip, ahh, that makes sence.
[02:00] <SpaceBass> cba123, we need to determine which drives are present and which are missing then, assuming the discs are still functioning properly and attached to the system, re-add them
[02:00] <multipass> does anyone use foobnix?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> hoss: could try the daily ppa, it has nice alpha features ;)
[02:01] <webroasters> how do you deal with spaces in folder names while using the terminal. I want to cp a disc to a folder on my computer, but the disc has a space in it
[02:01] <cba123> SpaceBass, I would do that with "sudo mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde /dev/sdf1"?  Would my data still be intact?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> multipass: looks good dude :0
[02:01] <SpaceBass> cba123, yes, if the discs are undamaged then your data will be fine
[02:02] <Flannel> webroasters: tab complete will automatically handle it, but you can either quote them, or escape them with a \ (Folder\ with\ spaces)
[02:02] <multipass> ActionParsnip: foobnix is really nice, but it keeps locking up/freezing on me during certain things-- wondering if anyone esle experiences it
[02:02] <SpaceBass> cba123, pastbin your /etc/madmin/conf
[02:02] <webroasters> ah ok thanks
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> multipass: do other players do the same?
[02:02] <Kevin`_> cba123: mdadm --add is for changing the array state by adding new devices, you don't want to do that
[02:03] <Kevin`_> cba123: btw, mdadm -E to look at a particular hard drive itself
[02:03] <multipass> ActionParsnip: well some do similar things, im wondering if im missing some kinda gtk dependencies.... not sure -- happens during internet related things mostly i think
[02:03] <SpaceBass> cba123, yeah good catch from Kevin`_ you want to assemble
[02:04] <hoss> ActionParsnip:  I dont think I am that brave or in need of an update that badly lol
[02:04] <cba123> SpaceBass, Kevin`_ http://pastebin.com/5gKNjkgB that's my mdadm.conf
[02:04] <SpaceBass> cba123, why does sde not have a partition?
[02:04] <Kevin`_> cba123: is that really supposed to be sde, not sde1?
[02:04] <sin_tax> All of a sudden my super/windows key does not allow shortcuts to the apps in the unity launcher that should be launched with the 1-0 keys... any ideas?
[02:05] <Kevin`_> cba123: btw, I would personally just have something like DEVICE /dev/sd?? \n ARRAY /dev/md0 UUID=whatever_it_is
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> hoss: fair play
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> sin_tax: if you ou hold it down a while, does it work?
[02:06] <cba123> Yeah, I messed up when adding, and that is how I always assembled it, with sde not sde1.  I thiink I found some of the issue though.  I did "mdadm -E" on each /dev/sd[bcdef], and b1 and c1 have 2 active, and the rest have them all
[02:06] <SpaceBass> cba123, yeah, using UUID will help ensure this doesnt happen often
[02:06] <Kevin`_> cba123: did you try to force assemble it without all the devices or something?
[02:08] <cba123> Kevin`_, I haven't tried a force assemble.  Didn't know I could http://pastebin.com/1S1ZF520 that's my mdadm -E /dev/sd[whichever]
[02:08] <hoss> ActionParsnip:  You were right, they were updating the file. Downloading the deb file atm and file size has changed.
[02:08] <Kevin`_> cba123: what happened here to cause the problem?
[02:09] <cba123> SpaceBass, I'll try that, I was of the if it ain't broke mentality, but I guess it was broke and I kept fixing it each boot.
[02:09] <cba123> Kevin`_, I don't know, I had to do a hard-reboot, since I couldn't ssh in, nor move the mouse.  Then this.
[02:09] <SpaceBass> cba123, I feel ya ? I'll often fix things on every boot because researching the actualy fix feels like rocking the boat
[02:09]  * n4cht did his good deed for the day.
[02:10] <Kevin`_> cba123: mdadm --stop /dev/md_d0
[02:10] <Kevin`_> cba123: mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/(all of them)
[02:10] <cba123> Kevin`_, "error opening /dev/md_d0: no such file or directory"
[02:10] <Misterangry`> I'm running Natty on an IBM Thinkpad T42p and I want to enable the mouse keys above the trackpad, but I've been unable to find any guides on doing this.
[02:11] <Kevin`_> cba123: is that still in mdstat?
[02:11] <n4cht> now i just need to figure out if it's *all* systems with the ralink 5390 that have bluetooth enabled, or just *some* of them...  i keep seeing mention of it being a wifi/bluetooth combo card, but there's no mention of bluetooth in the product features for this laptop.
[02:11] <cba123> Kevin`_, I rebooted since then, and no, not in mdstat
[02:12] <Kevin`_> cba123: oh, ok then, second command
[02:12] <Misterangry`> anyone here with any suggestions?
[02:13] <cba123> Kevin`_, "mdadm: no RAID superblock on /dev/sde" and when I just try to assemble without /dev/sde, sdf says the same thing
[02:14] <Kevin`_> cba123: I didn't see you paste mdadm -E /dev/sde
[02:15] <Kevin`_> cba123: do remember that your devices may have been renamed since the last reboot
[02:15] <Kevin`_> aside from that, I thought it was sdf1?
[02:16] <sin_tax> ActionParsnip, no, it used to... Very odd behavior.  I get the 'helper' overlay on the task switcher and below (the ones bound to letters instead of numbers)... Aaaaand it's magically fixed somehow... Hrm.
[02:16] <cba123> Kevin`_, It was sdf1, but after the reboot now, it seems like sdf and sde have swapped, so it is sdf and sde1.  However, when I do it now, I get that sdb1 is busy
[02:16] <eb3ha4el> Is there anything like a kind of 'meta-distro' which enables one to use all distros when is properly learnt?
[02:17] <bazhang> eb3ha4el, try ##linux
[02:17] <Kevin`_> cba123: check mdstat again
[02:17] <eb3ha4el> bazhang: thansk
[02:18] <cba123> Kevin`_, I did "mdadm --stop /dev/md0" then tried assembling again, and I got that 2 drives isn't enough.  In my last pastebin though, sdb1 and sdc1 only had 2 listed at the bottom, and sdd1, sde, and sdf1 (now sde1 and sdf) had all 5
[02:19] <eb3ha4el> cd
[02:19] <eb3ha4el> Is there anything like a kind of 'meta-distro' which enables one to use all distros when is properly learnt?
[02:20] <eb3ha4el> oops
[02:20] <eb3ha4el> sorry
[02:20] <eb3ha4el> mistake
[02:21] <cba123> Kevin`_, Here is a new pastebin, with my mdstat, and mdadm -E on each drive
[02:21] <cba123> Kevin`_, http://pastebin.com/PCFykjHE (sorry for the double)
[02:21] <Misterangry`> anyone?
[02:23] <cba123> Kevin`_, Am I in as much trouble as I think I am?
[02:24] <satonio> hi
[02:24] <Kevin`_> cba123: no, it's possible to recover from this. i think there's an option in mdadm to either tell to use an old superblock or ignore the removed state, but I don't remember what it is. also you could re-create the array with exactly the correct specification. don't try that for now.
[02:25] <satonio> i added the xorg-edgers ppa to try to make my card work without software rasterizer and now i'm getting Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig on glxinfo, any ideas?
[02:25] <qin> Misterangry`: xbindkeys (if there is any input, you can bind it to mouse clicks, bad side you need to run extra deamon)
[02:26] <Misterangry`> alright, I'll try that and get back to you
[02:27] <thraspic> Can anyone explain why this script fails to connect me to the internet the first time I run it, but succeeds when I run it a second time?  http://pastebin.com/Y1aY9NXz
[02:28] <cba123> Kevin`_, This seems to say that it'll work, but idk http://kevin.deldycke.com/2007/03/how-to-recover-a-raid-array-after-having-zero-ized-superblocks/
[02:29] <Kevin`_> cba123: that will work, but you should use it as a last resort since you have to specify everything completely correct or lose data
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> thraspic: try a small sleep (about 5 should do) just before the dhclient, may help
[02:30] <cba123> Kevin`_, I meant the --zero-superblock line, not the recreating
[02:30] <thraspic> ActionParsnip, many thanks, will try
[02:30] <Kevin`_> cba123: don't do --zero-superblock, it won't help anything
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> thraspic: or one just after wlan up, so it has time to settle
[02:31] <cba123> Kevin`_, I also found one command "--assume-clean"?  Or is that bad too?  I'm just googling around to try to find the ignore removed command you suggested.  I appreaciate all your, and SpaceBass' help too btw
[02:32] <SpaceBass> cba123, our pleasure! we've all been there with software raid and that scary data loss feeling?.and it usually works out!
[02:32] <SpaceBass> cba123, remind me where we are - you've determined which drives are missing? what happens when you try and assemble explicatly?
[02:32] <Kevin`_> cba123: you might try assembling with the --force option. be sure to specify all devices
[02:32] <Misterangry`> qin: apparently pressing them isn't generating any keypress events
[02:32] <Kevin`_> cba123: stop the current array in mdstat first
[02:33] <qin> Misterangry`: That is bad news.
[02:33] <cba123> SpaceBass, http://pastebin.com/PCFykjHE my last pastebin, seems to have helped Kevin`_ figure out that my superblocks aren't in sync, I think.
[02:34] <Kevin`_> cba123: btw, if this happened to me, I would recreate the array state in a virtual machine and test the various options there first
[02:35] <cba123> Kevin`_, I would, but I don't know how to recreate the array state.  As in I can't recreate this error.  Would I run a high risk of data loss with --force?
[02:35] <qin> Misterangry`: Maybe they are disconnected, lsusb, lspci, lshw to find it.
[02:36] <SpaceBass> cba123, --force isn't risky in terms of data loss, just may not work
[02:36] <Kevin`_> cba123: you can recreate the error, just disconnect three of the drives from the vm, either from the vmm or with mdadm
[02:36] <SpaceBass> cba123, interesting, the magic blocks are all the same which is good
[02:37] <Kevin`_> cba123: and then hard-reboot it, of course
[02:38] <cba123> SpaceBass, Kevin`_, I did --force and it started with 4 out of 5.  So glad I did raid5 not raid1 (that's mirroring, right?)  Now I just have to figure out which dropped out and fix it
[02:38] <Gskellig> I had my laptop configured for really low power consumption, I was forced to reformat and now I can't get it nearly that low anymore. sucks
[02:38] <SpaceBass> cba123, my money is on /dev/sdbe :D
[02:39] <smw> how can I tell if I am on a 64 bit machine?
[02:39] <SpaceBass> cba123, thats great that it started ? now you can do a mdamn -D /dev/md0
[02:39] <cba123> Kevin`_, SpaceBass, My data is still there!  But according to mdadm --detail, /dev/sde1 is gone.
[02:39] <duckx0r> is there any way to get gnome terminal to display output colors when connected to a remote machine via ssh like konsole does?
[02:39] <Kevin`_> cba123: with raid1 you can always start with 1 device. you wouldn't have any useful storage from 5 drives though ;p
[02:39] <cba123> SpaceBass, sde and sdf swapped after a reboot, so sdf1 became sde1 and sde became sdf
[02:40] <smw> duckx0r, it does
[02:40] <Gskellig> does anybody know good tips for saving battery life on laptops?
[02:40] <Gskellig> besides powertop
[02:40] <duckx0r> smw, not for me
[02:40] <Kevin`_> cba123: since 4 drives is enough for consistancy, you could add the drive back and let the array overwrite the data on it
[02:40] <cba123> Kevin`_, I meant raid0 then, I always confuse them.  I know one is mirrored and one is striped
[02:40] <smw> duckx0r, try ls --color
[02:40] <SpaceBass> cba123, good time to fix that sde problem ? you could use parted (or gparted) and create a new raid partition and add it like a new drive
[02:40]  * wli is trying to get a grub boot menu to come up with a timeout and is not having luck with GRUB_TIMEOUT=60 in /etc/default/grub
[02:40] <duckx0r> smw, ahh yeah that worked
[02:41] <SpaceBass> cba123, you can also use the UUIDs of the disks in the mdadm conf file which will avoid those boot time sequence issues
[02:41] <cba123> SpaceBass, That'll take a while, the other is the one with the issue.  The one with the correct /dev/sde1 is wrong, not /dev/sdf
[02:41] <smw> duckx0r, I would alias that
[02:41] <SpaceBass> cba123, ah
[02:41] <duckx0r> smw, what do you mean?
[02:41] <cpare> Good evening room...
[02:41] <smw> duckx0r, make ls an alias for ls --color
[02:42] <duckx0r> smw, i'm not sure how to do that
[02:42] <cba123> Kevin`_, mdadm --detail /dev/md0 http://pastebin.com/d9NaqB2k
[02:42] <smw> duckx0r, http://linuxreviews.org/quicktips/alias/
[02:42]  * wli installed a splash screen, too, not that that's even showing up (the hope was that if it ever dropped into the menu I'd recognize the splash screen). It's just booting into the default kernel with no options for picking kernels.
[02:43] <Misterangry`> not seeing it in any of those
[02:43] <cba123> Kevin`_, SpaceBass, the syntax to add /dev/sde1 back in is "sudo mdadm /dev/md0 --add-device /dev/sde1" right?
[02:43] <duckx0r> smw, do i do that locally or remotely?
[02:43] <wli> This should be super-basic and something is thwarting me (10.10 Maverick).
[02:43] <Kevin`_> cba123: mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sde1
[02:44] <smw> duckx0r, remotely
[02:44] <SpaceBass> cba123, mdamd --manage --add /dev/md0 /dev/sde1
[02:44] <SpaceBass> or what Kevin`_ said
[02:45] <duckx0r> smw, thanks a lot
[02:45] <smw> duckx0r, np
[02:45] <smw> so, anyone know how I can tell if I am on a 64bit machine?
[02:45] <cba123> Kevin`_, SpaceBass, says /dev/sde1 is busy
[02:46] <SpaceBass> smw, uname -m
[02:46] <Kevin`_> cba123: pastebin /proc/mdstat
[02:46] <SpaceBass> smw,  http://daws.in/jQdKRV :)
[02:46] <wli> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 just said GRUB_TIMEOUT= in /etc/default/grub would bring the menu up, and it's not coming up.
[02:46] <smw> SpaceBass, doesn't that tell me the software, not the hardware?
[02:46] <hjax> smw: run this command (no quotes): "arch"
[02:47] <smw> hjax, does that give hardware or software?
[02:47] <rationalOgre> wli: You need 00_header in /etc/grub.d
[02:47] <hjax> smw: oh do you know what CPU is in it?
[02:47] <Kevin`_> smw: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
[02:47] <SpaceBass> smw, it tells you the version - 64 says x86_64
[02:47] <wli> rationalOgre: Anything in particular in 00_header?
[02:47] <SpaceBass> smw, just confirmed on two different machines, one 64 one 32
[02:48] <hjax> SpaceBass: but that wouldnt matter if he had installed a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit box
[02:48] <smw> Kevin`_, I did not find the answer there
[02:48] <Kevin`_> SpaceBass: it's possible to have a 32bit linux build running an x86_64 processor. it will report 32bit in that case
[02:48] <cba123> SpaceBass, Kevin`_, looks like something on my system is lying.  http://pastebin.com/2mLd39KM says everything but /dev/sdb1 is in md0
[02:48] <Kevin`_> smw: is it listed or not?
[02:48] <smw> Kereltis, SpaceBass, hjax, I found the answer with lshw. Thanks guys
[02:48] <smw> Kevin`_, it did not say where I searched that command.
[02:48] <SpaceBass> hjax, I just checked a 64 bit box running 32 bit natty - i686 (IE 32bit install)
[02:49] <rationalOgre> wli: Sorry, here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring%20GRUB%202
[02:49] <smw> Kevin`_, I had already checked cpuinfo before asking
[02:49] <Kevin`_> smw: I meant in cpuinfo. the lm flag indicated support for 64bit
[02:49] <smw> Kevin`_, lshw rocks :-).
[02:49] <SpaceBass> Kevin`_, right, agree with you? uname -m reports properly in those cases (IE shows 32 bit install on a 64bit box)
[02:49] <rationalOgre> you did it right, you just need to run 'sudo update-grub'
[02:49] <smw> Kevin`_, ah, thanks for the info
[02:49] <Kevin`_> SpaceBass: not in my experience
[02:50] <wli> rationalOgre: That's the page I just said I'd looked at and gotten bad results by following its directions.
[02:50] <Kevin`_> SpaceBass: unless that's the information you are looking for
[02:50] <SpaceBass> Kevin`_, I defer to you on this one? not something I run or check often :)
[02:50] <rationalOgre> wli: Oh, sorry
[02:50] <Kevin`_> SpaceBass: it would report 32bit if you are running 32bit on 64bit. if that's what you want it to say, it's correct
[02:50] <rationalOgre> wli: natty?
[02:50] <smw> SpaceBass, uname -m give i686 for me
[02:50] <SpaceBass> Ill also defer to punching my box in the face it i had one? #rage ? love this new server I built, but its not been east to get everything running? ugh!
[02:51] <SpaceBass> Kevin`_, yeah, thats what I meant
[02:51] <wli> rationalOgre: Maverick
[02:51] <smw> SpaceBass, I am using 32bit software
[02:51] <SpaceBass> smw, wasn't your goal to demtermin if your install was 32 or 64? or were you trying to determine the hardware?
[02:51] <duckx0r> i gathered he was trying to determine the hardware
[02:51] <smw> SpaceBass, as I kept saying. I wanted hardware ;-)
[02:51] <hjax> SpaceBass: he said hardware
[02:52] <__sorin__> Hi. Has anyone used GNU parallel?
[02:52] <SpaceBass> smw, ahhh sorry? read to fast? stand corrected Kevin`_ hjax and duckx0r
[02:52] <smw> !anyone | __sorin__
[02:52] <hjax> All of our wats worked perfectly fine if he wanted software :P
[02:53] <hjax> Ways*
[02:53] <__sorin__> smw, there is a reason for this type of question. When you just ask directly, a billion newbs who have never used x give their opinion on y wasting everyone's time.
[02:54] <smw> hjax, yep... and I knew most of them :-P
[02:54] <cpare> Quest ion - Any reason why my Quibber / Empathy / eMail have to be running even with the icon in the tooltray?
[02:54] <hjax> __sorin__: people will do that anyway
[02:54] <rkvirani> nothing compares to itunes audex is still giving me problems
[02:54] <Kevin`_> __sorin__: most people will not answer the "anyone" questions
[02:55] <rationalOgre> wli: looking over 00_header it looks like you have to change transform somehow. Looking up how that works.
[02:55] <smw> __sorin__, I never answer anyone questions except with the bot :-P
[02:55] <wli> rationalOgre: Thanks.
[02:56] <__sorin__> I've been playing with GNU Parallel, and I'm getting worst performance than without it.
[02:56] <smw> __sorin__, you asking a complete question teaches those watching the channel alot. For example, in this case I have just learned of a new tool I have never seen before. If you had given more info, I would have an example usecase and an example problem. Of course, this is very selfish :-P.
[02:57] <smw> __sorin__, that, and sometimes a problem can be solved by people who have never seen the software before... it happens alot
[02:58] <cba123> Kevin`_, SpaceBass, sorry, had a phone call.  From my mdstat, would I be correct in assuming that I need to add sdb1 not sde1?
[02:58] <Kevin`_> cba123: yes
[03:00] <cba123> Kevin`_, last question.  Is it safe to use my raid while it's rebuilding?  mdadm -D /dev/md0 says it's state is "clean, degraded, recovering"
[03:00] <wli> rationalOgre: Still hunting?
[03:00] <rationalOgre> wli: line 154 of 00_header
[03:00] <wli> rationalOgre: GRUB_TERMINAL_INPUT?
[03:00] <rationalOgre> change set timeout=${GRUB_TIMEOUT}
[03:01] <Kevin`_> cba123: yes, it's safe, aside from you needing to assemble the array in this way in the future (don't try with sdb1 and without one of the other disks)
[03:01] <rationalOgre> to set timeout=(whateveryouwantwithoutparens)
[03:01] <rationalOgre> then run sudo update-grub
[03:01] <Kevin`_> cba123: at least until it finishes rebuilding
[03:02] <wli> rationalOgre: I see it on lines 242 and 244, 242 sets to -1 and 244 does set timeout=${2}
[03:02] <rationalOgre> wli: I'm in 10.04 so it may be different
[03:02] <Kevin`_> cba123: I once had a system crash in a similar way to this while the array was restriping (expanding from 4 disks to 5 or similar). fixing that was a learning experience
[03:02] <rationalOgre> sorry
[03:02] <wli> rationalOgre: What was the line in your 00_header before, that should be enough to go on.
[03:02] <cba123> Kevin`_, Not sure I understood that correctly, basically you mean don't try to write to it if another drive falls off, and I just have 4 (with sdb1 as one of them and it hasn't rebuilt yet)?
[03:02] <rationalOgre> else
[03:03] <wli> rationalOgre: Was it set timeout=${2}?
[03:03] <Kevin`_> cba123: I mean if you have a failure NOW, while it's rebuilding
[03:03] <rationalOgre> It's the second branch of the if [ \${recordfail} = 1 ]
[03:03] <rationalOgre> mine reads different instead of ${2} mine has ${GRUB_TIMEOUT}
[03:03] <Kevin`_> cba123: you'll have to assemble it without sdb1 again if that happens (or with all the drives)
[03:04] <cba123> Kevin`_, Yeah, I thought as much.  Thanks again, Kevin`_  and SpaceBass!
[03:04] <rationalOgre> the else branch
[03:05] <wli> rationalOgre: So that needs to be a hard number, then?
[03:05] <rationalOgre> wli: Well, you could go to where ${2} is defined and change it
[03:05] <rationalOgre> But that might have unaticipated consequences
[03:05] <rationalOgre> But yes, it needs to be an integer
[03:07] <rationalOgre> Boy, they really don't make configuring this easy...
[03:07] <wli> Wrapping up a download quick and booting it after.
[03:08] <rationalOgre> I'll be here, let me know how it goes. Did you run sudo update-grub?
[03:08] <wli> Yeah, I updated grub.
[03:08] <rationalOgre> Ok.
[03:09]  * wli goes in for the kernel vs. messing with bootloaders much.
[03:10] <wli> rationalOgre: Here goes. It'll be a minute or two.
[03:11] <SpaceBass> silly question? how do you run nice with a negitive number? nice -n -10  ?
[03:12] <wli> rationalOgre: No dice. It booted immediately into the default kernel again.
[03:13] <rationalOgre> wli: :(
[03:13] <rationalOgre> wli: what about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1664134
[03:13] <rationalOgre> Grub Customizer
[03:13] <wli> rationalOgre: I'll give it a shot.
[03:13] <rationalOgre> GUI app for grup customization
[03:15] <yuvateja> what is ubuntu eqivalent package for macro media flash in windows
[03:15] <rationalOgre> SpaceBass: what you did should work for -10
[03:15] <smw> yuvateja, flashplugin-nonfree
[03:15] <SpaceBass> rationalOgre, thanks
[03:15] <sebastiancadena> Hi, i'm bored :(
[03:15] <smw> yuvateja, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:16] <smw> sebastiancadena, you have come to the right place. Help some people out ;-)
[03:16] <yuvateja> smw; thanku
[03:17] <memoshah> hi
[03:17] <smw> hi memoshah
[03:17] <memoshah> hi
[03:17] <jmspeex> Any tips on running 2.6.39 on Lucid? The kernel I compiled panicked after it was unable to mount the root fs
[03:17] <jmspeex> Anyone's got an existing config that works?
[03:18] <memoshah> r u German Steph?
[03:19] <smw> jmspeex, have you looked at the config in the src deb for ubuntu's stock kernel?
[03:19] <smw> jmspeex, more importantly, why are you compiling a kernel?
[03:20] <jmspeex> smw: I started from the config of a 2.6.34 ppa kernel that I'm currently running
[03:20] <smw> jmspeex, ok
[03:20] <sexcopter> hi, i want to completely start fresh with samba file sharing (i've played with the configs a little too much and it's not working right)... so is "apt-get purge samba" enough? any other packages you'd recommend clearing out?
[03:20] <smw> jmspeex, why aren't you running the stock kernel?
[03:20] <wli> rationalOgre: Keeping the installation media handy just in case...
[03:21] <jmspeex> smw: I'm interested in some of the new features and my current kernel has a few suspend-related issues so I was trying to see if that would fix the issue
[03:21] <smw> sexcopter, no reason to clear out other packages. Just make sure all configs are deleted.
[03:21] <rationalOgre> wli: wise
[03:21] <jmspeex> smw: Stock kernel (2.6.32) doesn't resume USB when I suspend.
[03:21] <smw> ok
[03:21] <sexcopter> smw, okay, thanks.
[03:22] <wli> rationalOgre: I'm hoping the install disk acts as a recovery disk, too...
[03:22] <hiexpo> jmspeex, did ya try the <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:22] <jmspeex> hiexpo: There are "official" builds for that one? Didn't see anything newer than 2.6.35
[03:22] <CyberCod1> I'm having trouble installing 10.04 on a Pavillion G7
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> CyberCod1: what issues?
[03:23] <yuvateja> is there any tuneup utility packages are there?
[03:23] <CyberCod1> the progress indicator just keeps moving, never gets to desktop
[03:23] <hiexpo> jmspeex, it runs really good and fast
[03:23] <smw> yuvateja, I don't know what you would want to tune.
[03:23] <CyberCod1> tried the F6 options to disable ACPI and whatnot
[03:23] <jmspeex> FTR, I used to compile my own kernels since 1.2.13, but since 2.6 came out I lost track a bit of all the details needed to make recent distros happy
[03:23] <CyberCod1> no joy
[03:23] <rationalOgre> wli: You could always backup your pre-edit grub.cfg elsewhere from /boot/grub
[03:23] <smw> yuvateja, lets say you were on [insert OS here], what would you tune?
[03:24]  * wli craps his pants as he realizes he failed to do so.
[03:24] <rationalOgre> wli: then if things go wrong just move your backup back into /boot/grub
[03:24] <yuvateja> smw; desktop
[03:24] <wli> rationalOgre: Okay, pre-edit grub.cfg I already blew away. Where do I get a normal one?
[03:24] <rationalOgre> wli: It's system specific. :(
[03:24] <smw> yuvateja, explain. I still don't know what you would tune...
[03:24] <jmspeex> essentially, AFAIR the 2.6.39 kernel I built wasn't able to fine /dev/sda1 which is my root partitial
[03:24]  * wli had better find one before rebooting.
[03:24] <CyberCod1> I am currently doing the disk check, though I verified the data on the torrent..
[03:25] <rationalOgre> copy the one you just made elsewhere
[03:25] <rationalOgre> then run sudo update-grub
[03:25] <rationalOgre> it should make you a new one
[03:25] <jmspeex> hiexpo: Where can I get a working config/binary for <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[03:25] <infurion9> do you have to use kde4 with the latest ubuntu?
[03:25] <infurion9> (if you use kde?)
[03:25] <westy_> iphones work great in ubuntu, not so great in Kubuntu. can anyone tell me about what is used in ubuntu?
[03:26] <wli> rationalOgre: What about /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub?
[03:26] <smw> infurion9, yes, kde3 is not in the repos
[03:26] <rationalOgre> No need to backup those
[03:26] <rationalOgre> that I can think of.
[03:26] <smw> infurion9, you probably would not want to anyways. kde4 has been around too long
[03:26] <infurion9> ok--and are autologins for a normal user to x possible or blocked as seems the case in debian squeeze?
[03:26] <smw> infurion9, you would need to use old versions of all the software
[03:26] <rationalOgre> wli: why, is Grub Config app warning you that it may not work?
[03:27] <yuvateja> smw; what is the tuneup utilities in windows eqvalent package in ubuntu
[03:27] <wli> rationalOgre: It's not warning me of such, but I presume such.
[03:27] <rationalOgre> probably wise to presume such.
[03:27] <smw> infurion9, gdm (and I believe kdm) support autologin.
[03:27] <wli> rationalOgre: Will reinstalling grub deal with it?
[03:27] <rationalOgre> wli: it should, that would set everything back to defaults.
[03:28] <smw> yuvateja, no idea, I have no idea what it does.
[03:28] <infurion9> ive been screwing around with a clean install of squeeze and cant get any autologin to work--even trying to run the configurations as sudo
[03:28] <infurion9> not in xfce gnome or kde
[03:28] <smw> infurion9, have you been trying to configure the dm?
[03:29] <yuvateja> smw: it change the desktop envronment
[03:29] <infurion9> not with kdm xdm or gdm either
[03:29] <smw> yuvateja, you need to explain what it changes...
[03:29] <improveupon> hello my gui keeps crashing when i return from suspend if a flash video was playing in firefox. you have to go to a vt and reboot. sound keeps coming through (and cannot be stopped). the mouse pointer moves but nothing else.
[03:29] <hiexpo> jmspeex, one sec
[03:30] <improveupon> is it xorg that has crashed? what else could i try from vt1?
[03:30] <thismamacooks200> is there a log file that will show me who's been loging in via remote desktop?
[03:30] <wli> rationalOgre: Okay, relevant grub packages cp'd to /root/ and praying.
[03:31]  * rationalOgre crosses fingers
[03:31] <infurion9> smw: yes ive been trying to enable autologins for my regular user
[03:31] <smw> improveupon, I have had those problems too. I think it is a problem with my kernel/video drivers
[03:31] <yuvateja> smw;it changes the booting screen.we can insert our image as boot screen.
[03:31] <improveupon> thank you. btw this is a dell latitude.
[03:32] <infurion9> but really all i want to know is can you do that with ubuntu--i dont expect debian squeeze advice here
[03:32] <smw> improveupon, if you ever fix it. let me know ;-)
[03:32] <smw> yuvateja, I know nothing about theming. You want to change the login background image?
[03:32] <improveupon> i'll try to
[03:33] <hiexpo> jmspeex, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[03:34] <wli> rationalOgre: Good news, the grub configurator worked on Maverick.
[03:34] <hiexpo> jmspeex, than sudo apt-get update than open synaptic and install them
[03:34] <yuvateja> smw; yes ,changing backround sound also.
[03:35] <rationalOgre> yuvateja: you wanting to mess around with plymouth?
[03:35] <rationalOgre> yuvateja: or GDM?
[03:35] <smw> yuvateja, look up theming. I never do anything like that.
[03:35] <rationalOgre> wli: Congratulations.
[03:35] <rationalOgre> :)
[03:36] <wli> rationalOgre: Now I can hack the kernel and pick non-default/etc. kernels with whatever wild patches I might be brewing up (pgcl rehash? /proc/profile tweaks esp. to sched profiling?) at will. Cheers.
[03:37] <rationalOgre> Cheers, sir. :)
[03:37] <kzman> hi, how can i change the display light brightness of my notebook?
[03:37] <kzman> on ubuntu
[03:38] <yuvateja> smw; k
[03:38] <od3n> hi all
[03:38] <westy_> kzman, does you notebook have a function key brightness combo?
[03:38] <kzman> westy_ yes, it display a notification when I hit them, but it does not change the brightness
[03:39] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: is it plugged into the wall?
[03:39] <hiexpo> hola all
[03:39] <rationalOgre> howdy hiexpo
[03:39] <kzman> RoDiMuS-X, which wall?
[03:39] <rationalOgre> kzman: He's asking if it's presently on AC power.
[03:39] <rationalOgre> or running off battery
[03:39] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: the Electrical Outlet in the wall
[03:39] <kzman> oh sure
[03:39] <kzman> yes
[03:40] <kzman> :D
[03:40] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: unplug it and try
[03:40] <jmspeex> hiexpo: linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic ?
[03:40] <kzman> RoDiMuS-X, same problem
[03:40] <hiexpo> jmspeex, no   no   38 5
[03:40] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: what brand of notebook
[03:40] <kzman> RoDiMuS-X, emachines (acer)
[03:40] <jmspeex> hiexpo: What's wrong with 5?
[03:41] <hiexpo> five is good
[03:41] <jmspeex> I mean what's wrong with 8?
[03:41] <kzman> I can do it on POST and on Windows, but in ubuntu it can not
[03:41] <hiexpo> no good slow
[03:41] <wli> It's a bit busy of a channel. I'm heading out. Thanks, rationalOgre.
[03:42] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: Have you updated your BIOS
[03:42] <kzman> RoDiMuS-X, is the latest (yes I updated it recently)
[03:42] <jm__> hello room
[03:43] <jm__> a new user in xubuntu
[03:43] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: is it an aspire 5720?
[03:43] <RoDiMuS-X> oh wait you said emachine
[03:43] <kzman> RoDiMuS-X, no, it0s an emachines d525
[03:43] <jm__> i left microsoft
[03:43] <hiexpo> jm__, what you need?
[03:44] <jm__> well iam testing this s.o
[03:44] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: have you tried launching gnome-power-manager
[03:45] <kzman> yes, I try every way to change it graphically
[03:45] <hiexpo> jm__, so are you having problems or just need advice   etc
[03:45] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: hmm running out of options here
[03:45] <jm__> and iam satisfied whit it but i caný find the sound , i mean the tipical sound of ubuntu, but in this case xubuntu.
[03:45] <kzman> waiy
[03:45] <kzman> wait
[03:46] <jm__> hiexpo first time here in this chat too
[03:46] <hiexpo> jm__, humm  xubuntu 11.04
[03:46] <kzman> when I type gnome-power-manager in the console, it  says 'already running in this session
[03:46] <jm__> nop 10.04
[03:46] <jm__> lts
[03:47] <hiexpo> jm__, ok well just ask your ? and if anyone knows they will respond
[03:47] <hiexpo> jm__, ok let me see
[03:47] <jmspeex> Let's see if 2.6.38 boots
[03:47] <od3n> anyone tell me why I cant get my connection to work in VMware
[03:47] <jmspeex> ~
[03:47] <djmaster> how can i run an .exe on wine?
[03:47] <jm__> ok
[03:47] <kzman> djmaster, type wine yourfile.exe
[03:48] <hiexpo> jm__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563395
[03:49] <djmaster> thank you kzman
[03:49] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: this may work gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gnome-power-manager/general/use_time_for_policy false'
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> od3n: have you configured the vmware NIC correctly?
[03:50] <kzman> RoDiMuS-X, what does it do exactly?
[03:50] <jm__> ok hiexpo
[03:50] <jm__> thnxx
[03:50] <hiexpo> jm__, no problem
[03:50] <djmaster> has the xfce project shutdown?
[03:51] <jm__> hiexpo another troubke but libreoffice
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> djmaster: no
[03:51] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: its a work around for the reported emachines power management bug
[03:51] <djmaster> ty
[03:51] <kzman> mm
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> djmaster: its running and strong :)
[03:51] <rationalOgre> djmaster: doesn't appear so. The website is still running.
[03:51] <hiexpo> jm__, i use openoffice so don'tknow about libre sorry
[03:51] <kzman> RoDiMuS-X, must I log out my sesion?
[03:51] <djmaster> lo
[03:51] <djmaster> l
[03:51] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/531190
[03:52] <jm__> my son made a homework and the print parameters were not same than microsoft
[03:52] <hiexpo> jm__, open office is better
[03:52] <jm__> same trouble with open
[03:52] <afeijo> hi guys, I'm trying to configure the ssh-2 key with putty.exe, but when I try to use it, it say that the server refused my key. Any good tutorial? I followed this one http://linux-sxs.org/networking/openssh.putty.html
[03:52] <jm__> but open can read office 2007 as well?
[03:53] <hiexpo> yup
[03:54] <jm__> cool how can i install it with the terminal?
[03:54] <jm__> please
[03:54] <kzman> RoDiMuS-X, that0s not my case
[03:54] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: did you read the comments below
[03:54] <kzman> wait
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: how is openoffice better?
[03:55] <fancycakes> lol
[03:55] <fancycakes> OOo
[03:55] <RoDiMuS-X> kzman: thats the closest thing I was able to find
[03:55] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i just like it better
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: doesn't make it better just because you like it ;)
[03:56] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, :)
[03:56] <jm__> some expertise ubunter who speak spanish please?
[03:57] <m4v> jm__: el canal de habla hispana es #ubuntu-es ;)
[03:59] <yuvateja> my enter button is not working what  is the alternate command for it
[03:59] <FroztIkon> could anyone tell me why my login screen become pixellated lines that I can't use only after I log out?
[04:00] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i pretty much thought they were the same except libre  doesn't come with java for the data base
[04:00] <fancycakes> yuvateja: ctrl+shift+j works for me
[04:01] <fancycakes> heixpo: libO is also fast as balls.
[04:01] <yuvateja> fancycakes; i tried it not working for me.
[04:02] <fancycakes> yuvateja: derp
[04:02] <rhin0> anyone know what brand of external terabyte USB drive I should go for for compatibility
[04:02] <fancycakes> yuvateja: knock on wood, I was assuming you were using the terminal to chat in IRC.
[04:03] <renoteck> Hola
[04:03] <fancycakes> rhin0: wat
[04:04] <rhin0> external usb terabyte hard disk drive -- am going to buy one -- what make/brand to avoid what make/brand to use
[04:04] <rhin0> fancycakes
[04:04] <FroztIkon> can I remove kde altogether?
[04:05] <fancycakes> rhin0: expound upon your question. Compatibility for what purpose?
[04:05] <Coty91> any ish drive should work rhin0
[04:05] <rhin0> to just work -- read/write
[04:05] <Kevin`_> rhin0: unless you want performance, make sure you use one with a very low power hard drive, otherwise it's going to overheat if left on
[04:05] <rhin0> whats ish
[04:05] <rhin0> ok coty91
[04:05] <Coty91> ish my bad
[04:05] <Coty91> usb
[04:06] <Coty91> typing from Android LOL
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: http://www.unixmen.com/software/1505-libreoffice-vs-openoffice
[04:06] <rhin0> will I have to reformat it to ext4 -- what do I do with it -- they come formatted with ntfs right
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> Coty91: using andchat?
[04:07] <Coty91> androidirc
[04:07] <Coty91> and ruin0 no you won't have to.
[04:07] <rhin0> ok thanks coty91 on android
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> Coty91: i see. I use andchat, androidirc looks pretty cool
[04:08] <IdleOne> rhin0: you can format it to ext4 if you want but if you plan on sharing with windows better leave it at ntfs
[04:08] <saa1959> I upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 and now wireless nic BCM4312 is not working anymore.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868&page=30 is very long thread covering many different nic cards and is very confusing to find a solution.  Any ideas on step-by-step instructions to configure bcm4312 properly?
[04:08] <rhin0> i don't
[04:08] <rhin0> use windows
[04:08] <renoteck> hello
[04:08] <rhin0> hi renoteck
[04:09] <FloatingGoat> j
[04:09] <yassine_hell> hi, how can i close a running process ?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> saa1959: you may need to reinstall the firmware cutter
[04:09] <Coty91> ActionParsnip: any pros to andchat?
[04:09] <rhin0> yassine_hell use bash shell command : ps -ef to find the process -- then kill -9 process number
[04:09] <yassine_hell> :o ty
[04:10] <rhin0> the -9 forces the kill -- will kill an elephant
[04:10] <abusami> umm , hi
[04:10] <yassine_hell> ?
[04:10] <abusami> hello ?
[04:11] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, so is libre better   by your choices ?
[04:12] <Coty91> expo: Inmho it is
[04:14] <Coty91> hiexpo: it is. IMHO
[04:14] <hiexpo> kk Coty91
[04:14] <djmaster> help when i close my lid on my dell latitude c640 (I'm running xfce) it goes in hibernation and when i got to tack it of and log back in my computer shutsdown and when i restart it flashisw my last window and goes in a blue screan
[04:15] <djmaster> sry keybored going out
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: I use abiword. I don't use spreadsheets or anything else, saves me a tonne of space. Libreoffice is 300Mb
[04:16] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, k
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: abiword is 12mb
[04:17] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, yup i use abiword also
[04:17] <hiexpo> but i do use spreessheets so i will try libre to see
[04:19] <fancycakes> ActionParsnip: By that same logic, using Vim would be the best.
[04:19] <fancycakes> ActionParsnip: Or cat.
[04:19]  * fancycakes high-fives himself
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> fancycakes: true but a nice gui is nice to have, especially easy to add fonts and formatting
[04:20] <dpn`> Anyone have a dell l501x?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> fancycakes: i can do exactly the same as I would with *office that I can do with abiword, so why waste space
[04:20] <hiexpo> yup cat     high fives fancycakes
[04:20] <Coty91> hiexpo: you could always use Google's spreadsheets.
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> fancycakes: can vim add images to files inline?
[04:21] <Shaba1> Hello all
[04:21] <hiexpo> Coty91, nah almost got it installed
[04:21] <barlrol> someone wanna help me configure apach2
[04:21] <fancycakes> ActionParsnip: No, but that's rice anyway
[04:22] <rcconf> is there a way to change nvidia settings to clone mode in ONE click?
[04:22] <rcconf> like in winblows
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> fancycakes: its a feature I require, can vim do it?
[04:22] <Shaba1> Hello all
[04:22] <Shaba1> is anyone seeing my typing now?
[04:22] <kate1> help: wget --post-data "id1=abc&id2=cde" http://abc.asp doesn't work but its works fine with php
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: i can
[04:22] <kate1> ?
[04:22] <Delerium_> barlrol, your questions are?
[04:22] <Shaba1> I hate to ask such a newbish question. I am using a new linux irc client
[04:23] <fancycakes> ActionParsnip: No
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> fancycakes: vim doesn't seem so best now, I think you need to un-highfive yourself
[04:23] <Shaba1> I have just crossed over from the darkside (Windows 7) into you linux world
[04:23] <dpn`> kate1, you need to provide more information. (most likely that the asp handler is requiring some params you aren't sending?)
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: everyone starts someplace
[04:23] <fancycakes> ActionParsnip: come at me bro
[04:23] <Em0ry> hello
[04:24] <sexcopter> hi, i've just done a "sudo apt-get purge samba" and "sudo apt-get install samba" to start afresh with samba. i don't see /etc/samba/ so have I missed a step?
[04:24] <beyond_> what is the difference btw irc server and irc network
[04:24] <Shaba1> ah ActionParsnip  you text shows up in red here in xchat does that me that you are pming me
[04:24] <rcconf> you know?
[04:24] <sin_tax> Is there a way to change the default behavior of Unity to open a *new* window when the 'home folder' icon on the left nav bar is clicked (when you already have one open in another workspace)?
[04:24] <Shaba1> Sorry I am use to mirc
[04:24] <beyond_> don't all answer at the same time
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> fancycakes: both your suggestions don't fit the needs of the user (me). Its all I'm saying
[04:24] <Coty91> shaba1: means he is talking to you in chat.
[04:24] <Shaba1> beyond the network is a collection of two or more irc server under a single administrative control
[04:24] <Em0ry> Can someone please tell me where i can download cowpatty?
[04:25] <kate1> my prob is that wget --post-data doesn't work with asp pages..
[04:25] <rcconf> I want to TwinView in one click bah.
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> sexcopter: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove samba; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install samba
[04:25] <Shaba1> theoretically you could run just one irc server deamon and that would be your whole network.
[04:25] <hiexpo> hmm it is pretty fast
[04:25] <beyond_> how do you get on to a network then?
[04:25] <beyond_> is freenode a network?
[04:25] <Shaba1> It probably would not stay up very long though after about 20-50 users
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> beyond_: yes
[04:25] <sexcopter> ActionParsnip, trying it now, thanks!
[04:26] <Em0ry> Can someone please tell me where i can download cowpatty?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> beyond_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode
[04:26] <beyond_> alrighty then
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> !info cowpatty
[04:26] <barlrol> Delerium_: I added public_html inside of /home/user and I want apache2 to use that by default instead of /var/www  How would I change this?
[04:26] <Shaba1> Coty91: So becasue he typed in my nick with a : xchat higlighted it in red?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Em0ry: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6305421  shows the deps needed to compile it
[04:27] <fancycakes> Shaba1, it happens whenever your name is mentioned
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> !PPA | Em0ry you may find a PPA has it
[04:27] <faryshta> Hello. Can someone walk me throw aircrack?
[04:27] <saa1959> http://pastebin.com/pX0a0dRM ActionParsnip I reinstalled firmware-b43-lpphy-installer and b43-fwcutter.  Both firmware-b43-installer and firmware-b43legacy-instally are not installed.  I still am unable to establish a wireless network connection.  Were there any additional steps that you recommend in addition to reinstalling the firmware cutter?
[04:27] <Delerium_> barlrol, You chan change your DocumentRoot in httpd.conf to point to your home directory
[04:27] <lrisingr> fellas could u plz tell me y aireplay is not working in my System....its diwsplaying "no such bssid available"
[04:28] <bazhang> faryshta, try #aircrack-ng
[04:28] <Delerium_> barlrol, but I think it's better to keep the docRoot where it is right now ;)
[04:28] <Coty91> Em0ry: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cowpatty/files/cowpatty/cowpatty-2.0/cowpatty-2.0.tgz/download
[04:28] <Coty91> shaba1: yes
[04:28] <Shaba1> Ok I know this is a software specific question but here goes
[04:29] <Shaba1> How does one join more the one channel in xchat
[04:29] <bazhang> Shaba1, edit the server, add autojoin channels
[04:29] <Coty91> shaba1:  /join #channel
[04:29] <Shaba1> In mIRC its just "/j theotherchannel" and it will open another window with that channel
[04:30] <kate1> dpn`: can u specify the required parameters for asp handler..?
[04:30] <bazhang> Shaba1, its the same with #channel
[04:30] <Shaba1> very nice Coty91
[04:30] <Shaba1> I was not using the #
[04:30] <dpn`> kate1, no I don't know sorry. you'll have to check the asp source code
[04:31] <lrisingr> fellas could u plz tell me y aireplay is not working in my System....its diwsplaying "no such bssid available"
[04:31] <Shaba1> ok third newbie question"btw I hate feeling like such a newbie, I built my first altair 5000 in 1977, but I am a windows net admin(unemployed) and this is a new world.
[04:32] <Shaba1> what is the most popular irc program for linux.
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: hard to say really
[04:32] <bazhang> !best | Shaba1
[04:32] <Coty91> shaba1: in my world chat
[04:32] <qin> Shaba1: irssi (it is the best)
[04:32] <cfedde> Shaba1: lots of people like irssi others think chatzilla is ok.
[04:32] <Coty91> shaba1: xchat
[04:32] <Shaba1> I just chose xchat from the software center becasue somewhere in the back of my mind that name tinkled a bell
[04:32] <cfedde> and then there are those people who lile xchat.
[04:32] <barlrol> Delerium_: I don't see httpd.conf in /etc/apache2/ directory.
[04:32] <tucemiux> anyone knows where sound cards get mounted?? o.O
[04:32] <cfedde> like too.
[04:33] <kzman> hi, how can I open apturl links with apturl by default?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: try a few, see which you like
[04:33] <saa1959> Here is more info: http://pastebin.com/K67PMgaV
[04:33] <Coty91> shaba1: It's the mist user friendly. imo
[04:34] <Shaba1> Acutally I would like one as close to mIRC as I could gewt
[04:34] <Coty91> shave1 most*
[04:34] <Shaba1> get
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> tucemiux: sound cards dont get mounted
[04:34] <Shaba1> but that is probably just a dream
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: irssi has great scripting abilities
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: depends what features you use in mirc
[04:34] <Delerium_> barlrol, check in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[04:35] <Shaba1> ActionParsnip Ihave been using it since 1996 so I just know how to set it up to my liking
[04:35] <tucemiux> ActionParsnip, i mean what device does it use?  --> initializing audio at /dev/dsp,  /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[04:35] <Delerium_> barlrol, this is a symlink to /etc/apache2/sites-available
[04:35] <barlrol> Delerium_ Can I msg for a sec?
[04:35] <Shaba1> I like the autolongon to my two favorite networks with my username and password already for the indentify function
[04:35] <Shaba1> that is a great time saver
[04:36] <Shaba1> I like logging freenode of course
[04:36] <Shaba1> Tab completion of nicks is invaluable
[04:36] <Delerium_> barlrol, yup
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: http://linuxtidbits.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/setting-up-irssi/ shows how to setup autologin
[04:36] <HelloWorld321> I just checked: the bestbot pretty much has 0 for everything. :(
[04:36] <Shaba1> I do like how xchat seems to have a built in spellchecker
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> tucemiux: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[04:37] <PalinBachman2012> weechat is nice too
[04:38] <Shaba1> ok ActionParsnip : here is one thing that I discovered. Xchat does not automatically open links that I click on in a chat box
[04:38] <Shaba1> I use that all the time in mirc
[04:38] <jcook_5xdata> tucemiux, padsp command creates a false '/dev/dsp' and feeds the audio into pulseaudio.
[04:38] <tucemiux> ActionParsnip,  my sound card works fine, it's the application that's acting funky, I'm using a USB sound card but the app keeps poinging to /dev/dsp for some reason , so my question is  how do I figure out what device my usb card is being assigned?
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> tucemiux: do you have another sound device in the system?
[04:39] <jcook_5xdata> tucemiux, padsp command creates a false '/dev/dsp' and feeds the audio into pulseaudio.
[04:39] <tucemiux> jcook_5xdata, i figured purge audio had something to do with it but what is the work around to it so that my application can use the sound card, what should I use instead of /dev/dsp??
[04:39] <lefty_> KM0201, You here ?
[04:40] <KM0201> lefty_: affirmative
[04:40] <devbug> Is anyone here wiling to contribute to wiki that publishes reverse engineered specifications of close hardware and software?
[04:40] <devbug> closed*
[04:40] <bazhang> !ot | devbug
[04:40] <jcook_5xdata> tucemiux, depands sound to me like it use oss for sound
[04:41] <tucemiux> jcook_5xdata, im not so sure about that how would I find out? My sound works fine, its just some appz that need to point at the right sound device, those appz fail
[04:41] <sexcopter> ActionParsnip, regarding installing samba afresh, I still don't have an /etc/samba/ directory. One detail I didn't mention is between before doing the "purge" I did "mv /etc/samba/ /etc/samba.backup/" -- does this imply anything?
[04:42] <jcook_5xdata> tucemiux, so if your apps at /home/user/app, you would put padsp /home/user/app
[04:42] <JoshDreamland> What's the difference in GNOME version between 10.10 and 11.04?
[04:42] <jcook_5xdata> tucemiux, that will create the /dev/dsp for you
[04:43] <sin_tax> Is there a hotkey to open a terminal at the current 'explorer' location?
[04:43] <jcook_5xdata> also install alsa-oss just incase sudo apt-get install asla-oss
[04:43] <jcook_5xdata> alsa-oss
[04:44] <sin_tax> Is the file explorer still called Nautilus in 11.04?
[04:44] <jcook_5xdata> sin_tax, yes
[04:44] <bacon000> I need the dev packages for tiff, png, gif, and jpeg.  How can I find these package names?
[04:45] <vertevero> bacon000, sudo aptitude search
[04:45] <EOF-sensei> You guys really need to fix your GNOME2, it's failure today caused me to cry
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> sexcopter: it should install again as far as I know. I can give you a copy of mine if you want?
[04:45] <bacon000> vertevero:  i know how to search, but it's not helping me find the package required for dev.
[04:46] <qin> bacon000: libpng-dev, etc
[04:46] <vertevero> bacon000, what qin said.
[04:46] <bacon000> qin, vertevero :  gotcha.  thanks!
[04:46] <bray> hola, he elimidado mis "barras de heramientas" y no sé como restablecerlas
[04:46] <jcook_5xdata> bacon000, try imagemagic-dev <sp
[04:47] <m4v> bray: este canal es en inglés, pregunta en #ubuntu-es
[04:47] <sexcopter> ActionParsnip, just looked at the smbd log... and it is still trying to read /etc/samba/smb.conf (I thought perhaps it changed somehow to look in my backed up directory)... if yours is a vanilla conf file, then yes please. Otherwise, if someone can please point me to *the* default samba conf file, I'd be grateful
[04:49] <saa1959> BCM4312 issues with Ubuntu 11.04: http://pastebin.com/dEbNzapa
[04:49] <saa1959> At end of pastebin, I am unable to `make` the source code as documented in the original forum post.
[04:50] <jcook_5xdata> sexcopter, /etc/samba/smb.conf.ucf-dist
[04:50] <jcook_5xdata> sexcopter, cp /etc/samba/smb.conf.ucf-dist /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:51] <sexcopter> jcook_5xdata, my /etc/samba/ directory doesn't exist (and reinstalling it doesn't seem to replace it)
[04:51] <jcook_5xdata> sexcopter, did you do apt-get install -reinstall samba?
[04:51] <sexcopter> jcook_5xdata, oh, but wait, that file will exist in my /etc/samba.backup/ folder, that should do the trick
[04:52] <jcook_5xdata> sorry there two dashes
[04:52] <sexcopter> jcook_5xdata, i did apt-get remove --purge samba, then apt-get install samba. should i try your suggested command?
[04:52] <jcook_5xdata> sexcopter, give it a shot
[04:55] <sexcopter> jcook_5xdata, weird... still no /etc/samba directory. I'll make it and copy over the default file you indicated. thanks.
[04:56] <jadoe> is it possible to install gnome3 alongside gnome2?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> jadoe: the PPA wil upgrade 2 to 3, so I'd say no
[04:58] <sin_tax> heya ActionParsnip, that issue with the super hotkeys for Unity not working is back... seems real random.. If I hold down super, I get helper text for s,a,f and t (switcher, apps, files, and trash) but nothing else (should be 1-7 for other stuff)
[04:59] <sin_tax> Ugh, and now it's working again... this is crazy
[05:00] <PalinBachman2012> jadoe: you can use jhbuild
[05:00] <Shaba1> hello ActionParsnip would you mind putting that url in again
[05:00] <Shaba1> I am back on mirc and windows now.
[05:00] <jcook_5xdata> sexcopter, if that not there it is at /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[05:00] <sin_tax> It's like Super 1/2/3 don't work for a few minutes after a reboot
[05:01] <jadoe> PalinBachman2012: k, thanks
[05:01] <PalinBachman2012> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[05:02] <PalinBachman2012> altho, this last build failed on me
[05:03] <jadoe> i'll give it a try, thx
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: which url?
[05:04] <Shaba1> about irrsi
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: http://linuxtidbits.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/setting-up-irssi/
[05:04] <saa1959> BCM4312 issues with Ubuntu 11.04: Am I doing this right?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10875408&postcount=227
[05:05] <Shaba1> irssi is all command line?
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: it runs in a terminal....
[05:05] <Shaba1> uggh
[05:05] <Shaba1> not that I am adverse to terminal modes( I started out in the old dos days)
[05:06]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[05:06] <Shaba1> but I am trying to move into the 21st century
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: irssi is a lot more scriptable than many of the other clients
[05:06] <igsen> How to make debian as the default OS in grub2?
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: just like irssi is
[05:06] <Shaba1> I am going to have to go back to it now that I use linux though.
[05:06] <Shaba1> which is not a bad thing
[05:06] <sin_tax> Is there a place to rebind the middle click on the Unity launcher (open new instance) so that I can also use ctrl/alt click to do that (for when I am not using a mouse with a wheel)?
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: an app running in a terminal doesnt make it old in anyway at all
[05:10] <Shaba1> I know ActionParsnip
[05:10] <Shaba1> Like I said I come to computing from the mid 70's
[05:11] <Shaba1> I remember when all we had was green phosphor screens and thermal paper
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: nice :D
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> Shaba1: there are other clients, could give those a go
[05:16] <nishanth> i need help setting my time....it goes back to some other time every time i shut down
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> nishanth: try using NTP
[05:17] <nishanth> ActionParsnip : wat is NTP?
[05:17] <psycho_oreos> network time protocol
[05:17] <rww> try fixing your CMOS battery :|
[05:17] <kate1> HELP:  wget --post-data doesn't work fine with asp.net ?
[05:18] <kate1> can anyone help me..?
[05:19] <mknarr> kate1, explain what you are trying to do and that will give ppl a better idea and possibly more help
[05:19] <mknarr> i personally dont know asp.net srry
[05:20] <kate1> i want to load a asp page with some post parameter but it doesnt work fine. but it work fine with .php pages..
[05:21] <kate1>    wget --post-data "rollno=14232&B1=Submit" http://cusatresults.nic.in/cusatresult11.asp
[05:22] <kate1> it doesnt load the desired data. it loads only header
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> nishanth: network time protocol
[05:22] <kate1> mknarr: do hav any idea about it..?
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> nishanth: the system can be told to grab the time from the web when it fires up
[05:22] <nishanth> ActionParsnip : how can i do that?
[05:22] <kate1>  do you hav any idea about it..?
[05:22] <mknarr> kate1, srry i dont :( i wish i could help
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> nishanth: there are guides online, you'll find them
[05:23] <kate1> ok its ok
[05:23] <nishanth> ActionParsnip any links if you can send them plz
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> nishanth: www.google.com
[05:24] <nishanth> ActionParsnip : Well duh.....
[05:24] <CarlFK> how do I stop this: [ 1014.011531] udev[1634]: renamed network interface eth1 to eth1-eth2
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> nishanth: try websearching using the direction given....
[05:26] <zaery> I have an Ububntu system, and I regrettably need to install windows, as a dual-boot. That would be as simple as making space for windows, installing it, then doing "sudo update-grub", right?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: may help: http://debianclusters.org/index.php/Udev:_Renaming_Network_Interfaces
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> zaery: boot to live ubuntu CD, resize the ubuntu partition to make space and install Windows to the space. You will need to reboot to ubuntu CD after installing Windows as the Windows bootloader wil overwrite the MBR
[05:28] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: yep.  thanks
[05:28] <mknarr> how do i figureout what my registered ubuntu irc password is i forgot it ?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> mknarr: ask in #freenode for password resets
[05:29] <CarlFK> mknarr: /j #freenode and ask for a reset token
[05:29] <mknarr> thx
[05:29] <zaery> ActionParsnip, and sudo update-grub run on the live cd will fix grub on the hard drive, right?
[05:30] <xiaoyu> badguy
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> zaery: you will need to chroot to the ubuntu OS and reinstall grub2, there are guides around on how to reinstate grub2 :)
[05:31] <zaery> ActionParsnip: Then I have nothing to worry about, thanks :)
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> zaery: as long as your backups are decent, sure ;)
[05:33] <zaery> ActionParsnip: my backups would be decent if this computer had any important info on it :P
[05:35] <saa1959> Is anyone familiar with compiling source code and potential causes for errors in compilation?    or from `make`?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10875408&postcount=227
[05:35] <mknarr> help set password
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> zaery: then you have no worry :)
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> mknarr: if its your freenode password then ask in #freenode
[05:38] <mknarr> no it was for this channel only if im not mystaken
[05:39] <hiexpo> mknarr, it is freenode
[05:39] <mknarr> o
[05:39] <mknarr> well then i guess i have to change the time in my irc client to wait longer to check for registration
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> mknarr: this channel is part of freenode, the password to identify with is managed in #freenode
[05:40] <mknarr> oo ok thx ActionParsnip
[05:42] <mknarr> brb
[05:42] <icecream> i have a fresh install of 11.04 on an EEE 1005PE, it works except whenever i enter a wifi password, the keyring dialog pops up and then the computer freezes, any ideas?
[05:42] <Vonhinten> saa1959, are you able to understand c/c++?
[05:43] <Vonhinten> saa1959, if so, the section in green in this page may help resolve that error:  http://madwifi-project.org/changeset/4109
[05:45] <Misterangry> is it possible to automatically start tpb with upstart?
[05:48] <rodd> Hi, I edited /etc/pam.d/gdm to get rid of the keyring dialog on empathy messenger and now I cant boot
[05:48] <rodd> i need to edit that file again but dont know how to boot in console mode
[05:48] <rodd> is there a key for that? like f5
[05:48] <rodd> or, can i edit from the live cd mode (which is where im at now)?
[05:49] <PalinBachman2012> isn't that what recovery mode is for?
[05:49] <rodd> and how do i get into recovery mode
[05:49] <PalinBachman2012> you should have a listing for recovery in grub
[05:50] <rodd> all i have is ubuntun installed in this machine
[05:50] <rodd> it boots straight into ubuntu
[05:50] <PalinBachman2012> you dont have grub screen?
[05:50] <rodd> no
[05:50] <Misterangry> I have tpb.conf in /etc/init with contents http://pastebin.com/nHYqCVnV but "sudo start tpb" produces "start: Job failed to start"
[05:50] <reliableNerd> icecream,  have you disabled keyring?  Maybe theres some update available that may fix keyring
[05:51] <rodd> is there anyway that i can edit that file from the live cd mode? all i get is read only
[05:51] <PalinBachman2012> it doesnt mount when you click on the drive in Nautilus?
[05:52] <PalinBachman2012> or its read only
[05:52] <PalinBachman2012> i know you can edit that file from a live cd, rodd, i just cant remember how
[05:52] <rodd> oh
[05:52] <rodd> ill look around
[05:53] <rodd> today hasnt been a good day
[05:53] <rodd> been having trouble with computer all day long
[05:55] <rodd> found something, gonna give it a try
[05:56] <PalinBachman2012> If the menu is not normally displayed during boot, hold down the SHIFT key as the computer attempts to boot to display the GRUB 2 menu. For Grub Legacy, use ESC key to display a menu.
[05:56] <PalinBachman2012> and then you can go into recover, and dont have to manually mount your root folder, which sometimes can be a pain
[05:58] <rodd> cant find my /dev/hda
[05:58] <rodd> how do i find it? its mounted as /media
[05:58] <rodd> i dont see any hd* in /dev
[05:59] <barlrol> new room mate moved in.  All the examples say "foremost dev/sda1 or sdb or whatever"; how do I determine what sdX is my memory card?
[06:00] <barlrol> you using loonix?
[06:00] <Yeh> ubuntu 1010
[06:00] <pishguy> hi all, how to cange ubuntu gdm theme(login theme)
[06:00] <Misterangry> aaanyone?
[06:00] <CarlFK> this seems to have hung on a natty box (so none of the modules even exist): modprobe -r ohci1394 sbp2 dv1394 raw1394 video1394 eth1394
[06:01] <pishguy> schmidtm: ping
[06:01] <bash> I want to learn C progamming language but my area i can't find tutors
[06:01] <pishguy> hi all, how to change ubuntu gdm theme(change default login theme)
[06:01] <bash> Can I LEARN BY MYSELF ?
[06:01] <CarlFK> hmm... pkill modprobe = pkill: 2913 - Operation not permitted  - so yeah, it is stuck.
[06:02] <onaip> Hello people
[06:02] <onaip> I'm new to Ubuntu
[06:02] <Yeh> isn't there a terminal command to list all my sda volumes, then I can just plug in the memory card, see which one is new?
[06:02] <nit-wit> Yeh, sudo fdisk -l
[06:02] <Yeh> aha, thank you
[06:03] <onaip> I installed Ubuntu on my laptop which had Win XP
[06:03] <nit-wit> Yeh, no problem.
[06:03] <onaip> It is working great.. .   but Windows is no longer booring
[06:03] <CarlFK> Yeh: also, plug in card, run dmesg - the driver will likely log the device and some usefull info
[06:03] <onaip> booting
[06:03] <onaip> please help
[06:04] <ransom2me> can somebody help about virtualhost
[06:04] <ransom2me> using apache2
[06:04] <onaip> Could someone help me with booting problem ? /
[06:04] <ransom2me> my second virtual host not function
[06:05] <nit-wit> onaip, run this script and pastebin all the text. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[06:07] <delinquentme_> Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic).   << attempting to SHH into a service right now .. and not sure whats breaking w this
[06:08] <pishguy> how to change ubuntu gdm theme(change default login theme)
[06:08] <onaip> ok  I just downloaded
[06:08] <onaip> boot info script
[06:10] <stjohnmedrano> good day everyone
[06:11] <jmspeex> hiexpo: So 2.6.38 worked, but I'd still like to be able to compile my own kernel. Seems like the problem is that I don't have an initrd
[06:11] <thomas_89> new to ubuntu. what's cool?
[06:11] <bobobobob> is there a nice testing framework that utilizes JSON for object mockups?
[06:11] <jmspeex> I built my kernel using:
[06:11] <jmspeex> make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-i7 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image
[06:12] <jmspeex> and I just can't find the initrd anywhere
[06:13] <onaip> What should i do after downloading the boot_info_script
[06:13] <onaip>  ??
[06:14] <onaip> Hello anyone ???
[06:14] <A_J> !ask | onaip
[06:14] <mknarr> identify smokey
[06:15] <A_J> mknarr, FAIL
[06:15] <mknarr> fuck IRC is annoying as hell
[06:15] <MK``> lol
[06:15] <mknarr> o srry i appolgise
[06:15] <mknarr> language
[06:15] <MK``> never identify in a channel window :P
[06:15] <A_J> yes^
[06:16] <mknarr> rofl i was in a private room and did that
[06:16] <mknarr> i wasnt expecting it to post here
[06:17] <curiousx> Hi all, onaip: uncompress de zip, and run the script with ---> sudo sh /path/name_script.sh thats will generate a RESULT.txt, some like that i did read in the web where you download it
[06:17] <Flannel> mknarr: it happens.  Change your password and move on :)
[06:17] <onaip> I am new to Ubuntu. .  Install it to dual boot with Win XP. .  Unbuntu is working really good but When i try to choose Windows it keeps coming back to list where u choose which OS to boot from
[06:18] <A_J> ActionParsnip,  around ?
[06:19] <onaip> sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[06:19] <onaip> is this the correct ??
[06:19] <curiousx> onaip: so the trouble is windos dont boot ?
[06:19] <onaip> yup
[06:20] <onaip> sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[06:21] <onaip> sudo sh ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[06:21] <onaip> which one? ?
[06:21] <curiousx> mmm... i am new ass well but i dont know if someone should help you, becouse this is the Ubuntu channel
[06:21] <onaip> I am so noob. . .
[06:22] <nit-wit> onaip, put the download on the desktop and copy paste this to the terminal.  sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh
[06:22] <curiousx> someones knows if onaip could be helped about his problem on this channel ?
[06:22] <onaip> ok . .  doing it now
[06:23] <curiousx> or should be helped in offtopic ?
[06:23] <nit-wit> curiousx, we see them and are helping we just need the script run.;0
[06:23] <Red_> Hello people. can someone tell me how to join multiple channels of a server on Xchat-gnome client
[06:23] <curiousx> ok
[06:23] <nit-wit> ;)
[06:23] <curiousx> escuseme i dont know the rules =P
[06:23] <A_J> onaip,  try repair ?
[06:24] <princej88> whats up guys
[06:24] <IdleOne> Red_: right click on the channel tab and Add to favorites
[06:24] <nit-wit> curiousx, what they are doing is done on this channel.
[06:24] <curiousx> excuse me =P
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows why volumes are visible on desktop after changing it in gconf-editor?
[06:25] <Red_> IdleOne: my channels tab is not clickable.. it was clickable a while ago though
[06:25] <delinquentme_> public keys go to the client connecting right?
[06:25] <delinquentme_> or can it go either way?
[06:26] <IdleOne> Red_: you can also add autojoin channels by going to the Network list, selecting the network and click Edit
[06:26] <nit-wit> lotuspsychje, gconf has a box to click to show or not show home and mounted partitons and usb's etc.
[06:27] <nit-wit> lotuspsychje, boxes rather.
[06:27] <onaip> thanks for helping out... .
[06:27] <onaip> I just ran the script
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> nit-wit: yes i changed it in gconf, removed the highlight..
[06:27] <nit-wit> onaip, cool I put a pastebin in the private post the script on the channel.
[06:28] <A_J> nit-wit, hey i'm getting slow transfer speeds to removable devices, any Idea Whats wrong ?
[06:28] <nit-wit> lotuspsychje, the stuff still showing that is the problem?
[06:28] <kitten1234> does anyone have a problem like me
[06:28] <onaip> what should i do after pasting
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> nit-wit: yes doesnt hide after change
[06:29] <kitten1234> my ubuntu does not shut down
[06:29] <A_J> onaip, paste it on pastebin and paste link here
[06:29] <nit-wit> onaip, save it then paste the hhtp addrss on th channel
[06:29] <onaip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/614434/
[06:29] <xiambax> Did you know if you try to download silverlight via the microsoft page on a linux computer it redirects you to the opensource implimentation moonlight?
[06:29] <kitten1234> it always hangs at the screen with bunches of text
[06:29] <A_J> nit-wit, my question
[06:29] <alexey> hi all! any knows? Is there any "studio" to make own distr like SUSE studio?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: did you try open a terminal and type sudo halt?
[06:30] <kitten1234> 'call stacktrace .....'
[06:30] <alexey> I mean ubuntu
[06:30] <A_J> nit-wit, hey i'm getting slow transfer speeds to removable devices, any Idea Whats wrong ?
[06:30] <kitten1234> lotuspsychje :  no
[06:30] <IdleOne> !remaster | alexey
[06:31] <nit-wit> onaip, do you have a natty live cd or a usb/thumb drive to boot a live desktop.
[06:31] <nit-wit> A_J, Not really an area I would be helpful, if I knew I would answer.;)
[06:31] <onaip> I'm current on the laptop which I installed Ubuntu 11.04
[06:31] <kitten1234> i just clicked shutdown on the menu list
[06:31] <A_J> okie nit-wit  ty anyway
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: can you remember some of the error text?
[06:32] <kitten1234> yes
[06:32] <kitten1234> it said 'call stacktrace   ..... '
[06:32] <kitten1234> and 'end stacktrace'
[06:33] <delinquentme_> i get a key file from amazon web services ...  i then invoke it when SSHing into AWS ... what would lead me to get     Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic).      with the exact file amazon gave me to secure my connections?
[06:33] <kitten1234> then it freezed
[06:33] <A_J>  hey i'm getting slow transfer speeds to removable devices, any Idea Whats wrong ?
[06:34] <gizmo_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:34] <nit-wit> onaip, the script has the MS boot in the master boot record, if your getting to a Ubuntu desktop is it using a cd, and is it a live dsktop, not a install. You said your XP wont boot but per the script that is all that should boot.
[06:34] <aHardyX> Hi. I have a Wifi connection on my desktop and another computer is connected to the desktop thru eth0. But when both Pcs are switched on I am not able to browse the internet. How do I bridge the wifi connection and eth0? Please help me :)
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: are you on lucid or natty?
[06:35] <onaip> I downloaded Ubuntu 11.04 image from the ubuntu website... and then burnt onto a blank DISC
[06:36] <A_J> can som1 explain me where this option is "The problem is that the default USB mount option in Feisty is set to "synchrous". [...]" lotuspsychje  ?
[06:36] <kitten1234> i'm on natty
[06:36] <onaip> And then installed
[06:36] <onaip> using the DISC
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: you have an ati graphics card?
[06:37] <roger21> hi, hwo do i get a verbose boot instead of graphical ?
[06:37] <onaip> Im using the built in messaging app right now logged into my Ubuntu..
[06:37] <nit-wit> onaip, I missed this at first you have grub loaded to the sda1 ms partition, not completely but, that is getting you into ubuntu but will block the XP boot.
[06:37] <Majere_Draven> Whats the latest ubuntu version?
[06:38] <onaip> what does that mean ? ?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !natty
[06:38] <onaip> can u explain with more details??
[06:38] <curiousx> onaip: run this ---> os-prober
[06:38] <kitten1234> yes
[06:38] <nit-wit> onaip, do you have a XP cd?
[06:38] <Majere_Draven> any good?
[06:39] <A_J> lotuspsychje, can u have a look at my question ?
[06:39] <onaip> yup
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: it might be related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/521387
[06:39] <pishguy> how to change ubuntu gdm theme(change default login theme)
[06:39] <kitten1234> i have ATI radeon 3470
[06:39] <onaip> what should i do with the XP CD
[06:39] <nit-wit> curiousx, please look at the script it does not have the grub in the mbr and there s grub in the sda1 NTFS partition.
[06:39] <Majere_Draven> Is it any good?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> A_J: no feisty support here
[06:40] <nit-wit> onaip, do you have one you need to repair the sda1 by getting grub out of it.
[06:40] <ShermanBoyd> could someone please tell me the kernel option to boot ubuntu into rescue mode?
[06:40] <A_J> lotuspsychje, is feisty a component of ubuntu like natilus or extra package ?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !feisty
[06:41] <onaip> Can u teach me how to do it ? ?
[06:41] <A_J> damn
[06:41] <onaip> I've got the XP cd
[06:41] <curiousx> ok =P i didnt see the RESULT.txt
[06:41] <Red_> IdleOne: mate bothe things didnt work.. @1. couldn't find add to favourites.. @2. auto-joined but its not working.
[06:41] <nit-wit> onaip, do you have a xp install disc?
[06:41] <kitten1234> thank you  lotuspsychje
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> A_J: you should try natty
[06:41] <A_J> lotuspsychje, i'm on nattu
[06:41] <A_J> natty*
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[06:41] <kitten1234> but it seems not help me that much
[06:42] <A_J> lotuspsychje, was reffering to this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432119
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: are you on latest ati drivers?
[06:42] <kitten1234> because i'm on ubuntu 11.04 now
[06:42] <Red_> someone tell me how to join multiple channels. i am on Xchat-gnome
[06:42] <Majere_Draven> Whats Natty Like?
[06:42] <curiousx> you right nit-wit, so shud he install de grub on /dev/sda ?
[06:42] <kitten1234> i think i'm on the latest drivers
[06:43] <A_J> Majere_Draven,  it's good, very good
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> A_J: you sure its an usb 2.0?
[06:43] <Majere_Draven> red, type /join and a room.
[06:43] <nit-wit> curiousx, `they have to get rid of the grub2 in the pbr of sda1
[06:43] <A_J> yes lotuspsychje
[06:43] <gul> How to burn .sparseimage?
[06:43] <Majere_Draven> xchat should do it automatically
[06:43] <nit-wit> curiousx, first befor grub will work.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: are you running compiz?
[06:43] <onaip> Please teach me how to do it
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> A_J: did you try formatting the usb stick with lets say gparted
[06:44] <nit-wit> onaip, I can help you with this are we having a communication problem, feel free to let me know what is confusing.
[06:45] <A_J> tried that lotuspsychje, all drives are slow, actually the speed keeps fluctuating and often stalling
  yes
[06:45] <loke> Hello all. In pre-11.04 Ubuntu, I set up a PPTP VPN connection using the network settings panel. Everything worked (I was connecting to the VPN using the panel-control where I simply selected the network). I later upgraded to 11.04, and now there is no longer any network-panel-control-thingy I can use to connect to the VPN. However, when I check the network settings, my VPN configuration is still there, but the configuration panel gives me no
[06:45] <loke>  way of actually connecting. And yes, this is using Unity.
[06:45] <kitten1234> it's one of the package installed in my laptop
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: did you go look in additional drivers in preferences
[06:45] <loke> (if there is a way of getting rid of Unity and get back to the old GNOME, that'd be a good answer too :-) )
[06:46] <onaip> I dun know what to do now
[06:46] <Red_> \join drupal-support
[06:46] <onaip> can u teach me and go through how I need to fix this problem
  could you tell how to get there
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> loke: logout and switch to classic
[06:47] <gul> How to burn .sparseimage?
[06:47]  * Majere_Draven blinks at red. How the ...
[06:47] <kitten1234> (i'm so new)
[06:47] <Majere_Draven> wrong slash red.
[06:47] <Majere_Draven> the other one.
[06:47] <pishguy> how to change ubuntu gdm theme(change default login theme)
[06:47] <loke> lotuspsychje: that gives me a black screen. I probably screwed something up. :-(
[06:47] <nit-wit> onaip, so does this mean you have no disc that is a install disc for XP that would be used to repair the XP?
[06:47] <A_J> red just copy paste this /j #drupal-Support
[06:47] <Red_> yaa but what to do.. cant figure out how to join multiple channels
[06:48] <onaip> I have the Windows XP installation DISC
[06:48] <loke> lotuspsychje: but do you know how to connect to a configured VPN? There should be a tty command that allows me to do it, yes?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: open up unity start button and type: jockey
[06:48] <onaip> Is it a different cd to what you are referring to ? ?
[06:48] <ShermanBoyd> rescue=true
[06:49] <Majere_Draven> I have windows 7.. Can i dual boot?
[06:49] <A_J> yes, Majere_Draven  or use it inside windows 7 too
[06:49] <curiousx> yes you can
[06:49] <nit-wit> onaip, boot it using this link as a refernce to getting to the command line to run two commands. http://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to/fix-mbr-xp-vista/   The question here is do you only have one computer the one your trying t fix.
[06:49] <Majere_Draven> I can use it inside win 7?
[06:49] <A_J> lotuspsychje, what should i do ?
[06:50] <A_J> yes Majere_Draven
  then
[06:50] <onaip> I have anther machine
[06:50] <kitten1234> what's next
[06:50] <gul> How to burn Mac .sparseimage in Linux? Anybody?
[06:50] <Majere_Draven> Awesome...
[06:50] <nit-wit> onaip, I will give you the commands to run at the XP command line when you eready and understand.
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> A_J: im not sure sorry
[06:50] <Majere_Draven> I love you gais
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: do you see any reccomended drivers in the list?
[06:50] <A_J> :\ ok lotuspsychje
[06:50] <curiousx> you can use it inside the win but is not the same than a clean instalation
[06:50] <kitten1234> yes
[06:50] <kitten1234> i see one
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: try installing them
[06:51] <kitten1234> its name is 'Additional Driver'
[06:51] <nit-wit> onaip cool you know how to boot the xp disc and get to the command line?
[06:51] <curiousx> you will be in troubles with de cd/dvd recorder for example, but if you gonna try it go ahead =)
[06:51] <kitten1234> it's already been installed
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: for ati cards?
[06:51] <A_J> !offtopic | A_J
[06:51] <kitten1234> yes
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> ah
[06:51] <onaip> do you know why this happened ??
[06:52] <onaip> I did follow all the instructions step by step
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: and its set to enabled?
[06:52] <Majere_Draven> I think computers you order offline should give you the choice between win, and ubuntu, or both
[06:53] <kitten1234> yes
[06:54] <kitten1234> it has the green light
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: did you update to natty, or was it clean install
[06:54] <A_J> Majere_Draven,  your suppose to do it yourself
[06:54] <Majere_Draven> Do what my self?
[06:54] <kitten1234> i updated
[06:54] <A_J> install it Majere_Draven
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: you might wanna reconsider clean install
[06:54] <kitten1234> not a clean installation
[06:54] <kitten1234> oh hhhh
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234= sometimes things run smoother after clean installs
[06:55] <nit-wit> onaip, when you respond type a few letters of my nic then hit the tab to complete I'm notified that you answered that way.  It looks like you tried to reload the grub bootloader and put it in sda1 hard to say you were there I was'nt. ;)
[06:55] <Logan_> lotuspsychje: correction - "always" ;)
[06:55] <saa1959> It is possible to switch from Unity back to Gnome desktop using Ubuntu 11.04, right?
[06:55] <Logan_> !classic | saal959
[06:55] <kitten1234> is it the only way i can do to fix the problem <lotuspsychje>
[06:55] <pishguy> how to change ubuntu gdm theme(change default login theme)
[06:56] <pishguy> how to change ubuntu gdm theme(change default login theme)
[06:56] <saa1959> ah, thanks
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: not sure howto fix
[06:56] <kitten1234> umm
[06:56] <nit-wit> onaip, did you see the link on getting to the command line on the booted XP disc?
[06:56] <A_J> lotuspsychje,  do you know anyone here who will be able to help me ?
[06:57] <kitten1234> anyway, i really appreciate your helps <lotuspsychje>
[06:57] <kitten1234> thank you so much
[06:57] <nit-wit> brb
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> kitten1234: np
[06:57] <kitten1234> :-)
[06:57] <onaip> nit-wit: thanks . .
[06:58] <onaip> nit-wit: I'm using Win 7 on my other machine.. .  How do i access this chat ? ?
[06:58] <Majere_Draven> In win 7 or in Ubuntu Onaip?
[06:58] <onaip> in Win
[06:58] <onaip> 7
[06:59] <Syria> Hello, After updating to Natty I am facing a problrm with skype. the small tray icon on the bar it doesn't appear any more!
[06:59] <onaip> dun tell me I have to install another messaging program. ..
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> A_J: is the usb in FAT?
[06:59] <A_J> no lotuspsychje NTFS
[07:00] <curiousx> onaip: if you dont want to install a IRC client for Win you can use this http://webchat.freenode.net/
[07:00] <Majere_Draven> ... Onaip-  Are you accessing this chat in ubuntu,, or in win 7?
[07:00] <onaip> Currently from Ubuntu
[07:00] <gul> Syria: skype is ovr.........go for empathy
[07:00] <Majere_Draven> you can do it anyway you like, You can get Mirc- Xchat- Turbo chat- Leafchat is really pretty
[07:01] <curiousx> in this field "Channels:" write "#ubuntu" whit out quotes
[07:01] <gul> How to burn Mac .sparseimage in Linux? Anybody?
[07:01] <curiousx> with out =P
[07:01] <Syria> gul:  I use skype to communicate with work mates and i can't force them to use empathy
[07:02] <gul> Syria: prob is that skype is under windows now..........and its development for Linux is u know..........almost ceased........so you have to shift...no other choice
[07:02] <Syria> Come on.
[07:02] <nit-wit> onaip, you can get a free 30mday use of xchat. I think this is a free 30 day version.   http://xchat.org/download/
[07:02] <gul> Syria: what?
[07:02] <Majere_Draven> Gul,
[07:02] <gul> yup!
[07:02] <Syria> That's not true.
[07:03] <gul> Majere_Draven: yes!
[07:03] <gul> Majere_Draven: what?
[07:03] <Syria> Its just a problem that I am facing after updating to natty.
[07:03] <Majere_Draven> I think you can get a regulat Daemon tool, and convert it to ISO
[07:03] <gul> Syria: its true
[07:03] <gul> Syria: that is OK.......... i am just telling abt the present..............ur problem may be some other but this is what going to happen
[07:03] <gul> Majere_Draven: deamon tool for ubuntu?
[07:04] <Majere_Draven> YEah...
[07:04] <Majere_Draven> Theres plenty
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> kiso
[07:04] <Majere_Draven> Should be plenty
[07:04] <Syria> :(
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> does the same as deamon tools
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> acetoneiso may help too (if memory serves, I am very tired)
[07:06] <sklorpion> when i runk conky it takes about 2-3 min to appear, any idea why?
[07:07] <sklorpion> *run
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> sklorpion: run it in a terminal, the output may give clues
[07:07] <sklorpion> ActionParsnip: i do this by terminal, and no clues
[07:07] <jeeves_moss> has anyone here been able to get FreeDB working?
[07:08] <sklorpion> ActionParsnip: i thought something was wrong but it finally apears after those 2-3 min
[07:08] <selvakumaran> Pls anyone help me to install AptanaStudio3...???
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> sklorpion: type:  conky    and hit enter
[07:09] <gul> ActionParnsnip: wow how can I forget acetoniso..? thanks
[07:09] <A_J>  wb ActionParsnip
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !security
[07:09] <delinquentme_> how do i run a search from the command line for a file "cb_hadoop"
[07:09] <Majere_Draven> !dapper
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> A_J: only half back dude
[07:10] <Majere_Draven> I rememebr dapper because it had beryl
[07:10] <sklorpion> ActionParsnip: i get your point, i do this and conky doesnt return me any warnings or errors i fixed already everything
[07:10] <selvakumaran> Pls anyone help me to install AptanaStudio3...???
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme_: sudo find / -iname "cb_hadoop"
[07:10] <onaip> nit-wit: I'm installing Pidgin on my other machine...
[07:10] <selvakumaran> Pls anyone help me to install AptanaStudio3...???
[07:10] <nit-wit> onaip, cool.
[07:10] <onaip> nit-wit:  will let you know when done. .
[07:10] <nit-wit> onaip, thanks.
[07:10] <james41855> How do I switch from Unity to Gnome again?  I am at Xorg user login manager and do not see where I can select which desktop environment to load.  I don't think this is GDM.
[07:11] <Majere_Draven> beryl was so cool, why did we get rid of it?
[07:11] <james41855> I see option for Universal Access Preferences
[07:11] <snuff> I am trying to install ubuntu on another computer. I said there was and unrecoverable problem and it is going to open a desktop session. What does that mean?
[07:11] <james41855> Ah, I see.  I must select a user first.
[07:12] <delinquentme_> should dpkg come preinstalled on a system?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Majere_Draven: its part of compiz fusion now
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Majere_Draven: so it's not gone reallty
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme_: yes
[07:13] <A_J> ActionParsnip, i gt a problem, usb transfer speeds are spiking and often stalling and very slow
[07:13] <Some_Person> Is there a simple command I can use to create a file called ".nomedia" in every subdirectory of a directory?
[07:14] <geekosopher> how do I remove the files shown in the 'recent' section when I click the 'files and folders' icon on the launcher?
[07:14] <Majere_Draven> I'm installing now
[07:14] <ShermanBoyd> does a standard install generate a preseed file anywhere?  like kickstart does?
[07:14] <geekosopher> I mean I want to remove it from that section, not delete those files
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: http://linux.aldeby.org/ubuntu-natty-11-04-unity-clear-recent-documents.html
[07:16] <A_J> ActionParsnip, see my problem please :>
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> A_J: I don't know, or I would have replied wouldn't I...?
[07:17] <snuff> The Ubuntu installer has been showing an empty coloured and the mouse pointer is frozen, is there anything I can do to find out what is going on?
[07:17] <A_J> damn who should i ask ActionParsnip, no1 seems to knw
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> A_J: be patient, or try again in a couple of hours
[07:17] <A_J> okie ActionParsnip  any1 you think might know ?
[07:18] <Majere_Draven> Ubuntu is going to take intirely too long :(
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> snuff: press CTRL+ALT+F1   see if when you return with CTRL+ALT+F7 it makes it ok
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> A_J: just ask the channel, works for everyone else :)
[07:18] <A_J> okien dokie ActionParsnip
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Majere_Draven: too long?
[07:19] <geekosopher> I tried to do 'clear history' from the 'go' menu of file manager, but it does not remove the files from the recent section of files and folder icon on launcher
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> geekosopher: does this help http://linux.aldeby.org/ubuntu-natty-11-04-unity-clear-recent-documents.html
[07:19] <nit-wit> onaip, you will need a Natty live cd or the ISO of one loaded to a usb/thumb, pendrive as well.
[07:20] <Majere_Draven> I thought it would take too long, but apprently... 7 hours turns into 6hrs in 2o minuts
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Majere_Draven: don't worry about that tme, it's usually pretty quick. Even on my old systems its swift
[07:21] <geekosopher> ActionParsnip: looking
[07:21] <Majere_Draven> My net tells me to Eff off if something takes longer than 4 hours.
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> natty installed in 10min here
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Majere_Draven: surely you are installing using CD or USB, the web connection isn't used...
[07:22] <onaip1> nit-wit: do you mean the DISC which I used to install Ubuntu 11.04  ?/
[07:22] <Majere_Draven> I'm on sattelite internet