[00:01] <Bashing-om> Smaug: I hunt us up a EFI boot tutorial . wait a few .
[00:03] <Bashing-om> Smaug: Ros Smith is some kind of sharp and HE wrote the book . http://www.rodsbooks.com/linux-uefi/#oops .
[00:04] <Bashing-om> Rod*
[00:04] <dckx-m> Ben64: I did what you said. Script now looks like this:
[00:04] <dckx-m> #!/bin/bash
[00:04] <dckx-m> DISPLAY=:0
[00:04] <dckx-m> xinput set-prop 11 276 2
[00:05] <dckx-m> after rebooting, mouse still has different mouse speed than specified. I am making the script run by going to gnome-session-properties, and adding it as an additional start-up program
[00:06] <Smaug> Bashing-om: thanks for the link, are we sure that is relevant though?  I'm not dual booting with any other OS, windows or otherwise
[00:06] <konrados> Hello. From time to time my wifi disconnects, and can't reconnect. It asks for a password, which I provide, then it 'thinks' and asks me again, without saying anything. There is only one way to make it working, which is... resetting the pc. Maybe re-plugging the usb wifi adapter would also work, IDK (although it is still there under lsusb). How do I start debugging it?
[00:07] <konrados> Oh - I have a tp link TL-WN823N wifi adapter
[00:08] <Bashing-om> Smaug: Not enough info as of yet to be sure of anything . But if your machime is EFI . and you have installed in UEFI mode; then yes 100% relevant . thogh maybe more than you want to know presently .
[00:10] <Bashing-om> Smaug: On an UEFI system the boot process is generally UEFI boot manager > grub core.img (/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi) > ($root)/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod > ($root)/grub/grub.cfg > ($root)/vmlinuz-$VERSION + ($root)/initrd.img-$VERSION > Linux booting .
[00:12] <dckx-m> Ben64: I was missing chmod +x
[00:12] <dckx-m> Ben64: thanks for your help
[00:33] <Smaug> Bashing-om: thanks.  been trying things that have not been working.  taking a break now
[00:40] <Bashing-om> Smaug: Smaug I too continue to seek a simple guide to boot EFI from grub . Back to it .
[00:49] <Jordan_U> Smaug: My guess is that you missed adding a root= kernel parameter. Try "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg" after setting $root to the device your kernel and initrd were found. When you're booted into your installed system, or when you want to just boot into an Ubuntu LiveUSB instead, please run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[00:49] <Jordan_U> You'll need to "sudo apt install gawk" before boot info script will run properly.
[00:51] <gadget> lo' all. Has anyone experienced firefox/rendom_app switching to the foreground when switching viewports/virtual_desktops? This happens and then when I switch back it's always the first focused app.
[01:20] <Smaug> Jordan_U: i tried the configfile thing
[01:20] <Smaug> still got to intramfs
[01:25] <demophobia> Bashing-om: that thread has missing pictures
[01:26] <demophobia> so i don't see how to follow the instructions in the section "How to enable kernel options on the livecd (before install)"
[01:26]  * demophobia is reading https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[01:29] <Bashing-om> demophobia: t the purple splash screen (stick figure keyboard emblems at bottom of screen) -> hit any key ->
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Language screen -> escape key to accept the default ->
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Booting options screen -> F6 key (other options) -> arrow down to the preset option(s) space or enter to accept and then the escape key to exit;
[01:33] <The_Dv8or> https://i.imgur.com/gA5n70j.gifv
[01:33] <The_Dv8or> please watch that forever
[01:33] <The_Dv8or> whups, wrong window
[01:34] <demophobia> i'm worried that the USB drives aren't working on this dell d620 :(
[01:34] <demophobia> just got it ~3 days ago from amazon
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Smaug: Did configfile bring you to a grub menu, boot you immediately, or do something else?
[01:35] <The_Dv8or> drives or drivers?
[01:35] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu 14 with this init script every time i do kill this core apps the platform service restarted this is the init script http://vpaste.net/HkipX
[01:35] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | demophobia
[01:35] <demophobia> ah, was the damaged CD i was trying to rip into iTunes causing the autoplay window not to appear
[01:35] <demophobia> Bashing-om: did that already
[01:35] <Smaug> concifgfile seemed to clear the grub prompt.  i was still at the same type of grub command line prompt
[01:35] <Smaug> Jordan_U: ^
[01:36] <demophobia> gonna try your advice now to set nomodeset
[01:36] <Smaug> i tried both before and after sending linux and initrd commands
[01:36] <fishcooker> what's the diff between init and init.d ... afaik i used to use init.d rather than init
[01:36] <Bashing-om> demophobia: Then next is to boot into the loveUSB to the boot menu and " check disk for defects " . => then boot with 'nomodeset' .
[01:36] <Jordan_U> Smaug: OK, does "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg" print a whole bunch of text to the screen?
[01:37] <Jordan_U> Smaug: What is the device name of your root partition?
[01:37] <Smaug> i wish i knew the device name of my root partition
[01:37] <Smaug> how would i figure that out?
[01:37] <Smaug> the root files seem to be in (hd0,gpt2)
[01:37] <Smaug> though I tried putting that in as the root= param and it didn't help
[01:38] <Jordan_U> Smaug: Then it will probably be /dev/sda2, but could be /dev/sdb2 (or c2 or d2 depending on how many drives you have).
[01:38] <Smaug> yeah i did the cat command you just suggested and it's a bunch of text
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Smaug: You are now in good hands :)
[01:38] <Smaug> when I do ls (hd0,gpt2)/dev there are no sda*
[01:39] <Jordan_U> Smaug: Try "root=/dev/sda2" (without the quotes) as a kernel parameter (by adding it after the file path to the kernel, on the same line).
[01:39] <Smaug> ok
[01:39] <Jordan_U> Smaug: That's because grub names devices differently than linux does.
[01:41] <Smaug> Jordan_U: tried it out, still boots into busybox initramfs
[01:41] <Smaug> (adding root=/dev/sda2 to the linux command
[01:43] <Jordan_U> Smaug: Run "cat /proc/partitions" in the busybox shell. Hopefully you'll be able to tell by the partitions that are listed which drive contains Ubuntu, and you already know that the root partition is the second partition on that drive. /proc/partitions will list all of your drives and partitions, as linux names them.
[01:45] <Smaug> there are 4 partitions.
[01:45] <Smaug> the first and third are significantly larger in # of blocks
[01:45] <Smaug> Jordan_U:
[01:46] <Smaug> (I apologize if I'm dense, I'm new to this boot stuff)
[01:46] <Smaug> (I really appreciate you taking the time to help me sort this out)
[01:47] <Jordan_U> Smaug: What is the name of the one that ends in "2", like "sda2" or "nvme1p2"?
[01:47] <Smaug> nvme0n1p2 is the only one that ends in 2
[01:47] <Smaug> of the /proc/partitions
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Smaug: Then your root= kernel parameter should be "root=/dev/nvme0n1p2".
[01:48] <andschwa> If anyone here knows snap, I need some help. I'm looking for the global configurations so I can change SNAP_DATA and SNAP_COMMON for all my snaps (so I can install them to a separate drive).
[01:49] <andschwa> But my god, I've searched and searched. There's docs on what the environment variables are, but not how to set them for snapd.
[01:49] <bazhang> andschwa, #snappy for that
[01:49] <andschwa> ah thank you, I tried #snap and #snapd :P
[01:49] <bazhang> np
[01:52] <Smaug> Jordan_U: it worked!  I'm in!  thank you so much
[01:52] <Smaug> any advice on how to prevent it from happening again? :)
[01:53] <andschwa> (realized I should probably stay here in case someone does know, since #snappy is eerily quiet)
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Smaug: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg .
[02:09] <Smaug> Jordan_U: pm'd
[02:27] <nofacetimber> I am currently running node on Ubuntu 16.04, and node is having trouble detecting ffmpeg on the server.  First node checks the environment variable process.env.FFMPEG_PATH to if it and the path exists, if not then it will check the $PATH for ffmpeg.  I thought I set the FFMPEG_PATH environment variable and add the ffmpeg location to $PATH however node still can't seem to detect or find ffmpeg.
[02:30] <nofacetimber> Can anyone help me troubleshoot this issue or ensure that my path or environment variable is properly set in a way that node can detect it?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Smaug: Odd. I don't see anything obviously wrong with it, but it seems it's not giving you a menu at boot.
[02:35] <xz> hi there, I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 with Dell U3011 display and GeForce M1000 graphics card. Display's native resolution is 2560x1600, however max I can set from Ubuntu is 1600x1200. I have nvidia-xxx driver. Any hints?
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Smaug: If you reboot and run "source /boot/grub/grub.cfg" at the grub shell does it print any error messages? (Remember how to manually boot from the grub shell again as you'll need to).
[02:41] <Smaug> Jordan_U: no error, but boundaries of the grub command prompt switch from center of the screen to fullscreen
[02:45] <Jordan_U> Smaug: Try pressing the escape key exactly once. Hopefully it will take you to a grub menu.
[02:49] <Smaug> Jordan_U: esc does nothing
[02:52] <Smaug> Jordan_U: i have to go. if you give me more things to try, I will try them!  (just letting you know so when I don't respond you know why.  thank you so much for all of your help)
[03:15] <xz> ok, so I'm using fairly common laptop HP Zbook with fairly common graphics card GeForce M1000M and I have fairly common DELL display with 2560x1600 native resolution. I can only get 1600x1200 from it. What's going on with Ubuntu?
[03:15] <xz> why isn't the GUI letting me to set higher resolution?
[03:15] <xz> I'm fucking around with xrandr too and no luck
[03:15] <xz> any ideas on how to force native display's resolution to work on that graphics card?
[03:16] <xz> it works with no problem on Windows over the same HDMI connector
[03:16] <xz> with 2560x1600 (native) resolution
[03:22] <kk4ewt> you may need the nvidia drivers to do that
[03:33] <mmkumr> I am trying to extract .iso.bz2 file with ubuntu archive manager but I am unable to extract the file.
[03:36] <pankaj> Does anybody know what a typesetter is?
[03:37] <pankaj> I was studying about nroff and troff but could not understand their difference in their functionalities.
[03:40] <al2o3-cr> mmkumr: bzip2 -cd foo.iso.bz2
[03:41] <madLyfe> to be linux the only requirement is the kernel?
[03:41] <rypervenche> al2o3-cr: You do know that that will spam mmkumr's screen with output, yes?
[03:43] <mmkumr> Now I am tring command 'bzip2 -d -k -v  R2015a-glnxa64.iso.bz2'.
[03:44] <al2o3-cr> rypervenche: is that a problem?
[03:45] <rypervenche> mmkumr: Are you trying to turn the iso.bz2 into an iso file?
[03:45] <mmkumr> rypervenche: yes
[03:46] <rypervenche> mmkumr: Then: bzip2 -d R2015a-glnxa64.iso.bz2 will work
[03:46] <rypervenche> It will overwrite the .iso.bz2 file with an .iso file.
[03:46] <rypervenche> mmkumr: But what you wrote will work just fine too :)
[03:46] <kk4ewt> R2015a is ancient
[03:46] <mmkumr> rypervenche: I have used -k option for keep the original file.
[03:47] <rypervenche> mmkumr: Yes, and it was good of you to look up those options :)
[03:47] <al2o3-cr> mmkumr: or just use bunzip2 R2015a-glnxa64.iso.bz2 (if you don't want spamming)
[03:47]  * al2o3-cr yeesh
[03:48] <mmkumr> al2o3-cr: ok. but now extracting process in going on.
[03:48] <al2o3-cr> mmkumr: great!
[03:48] <mmkumr> al2o3-cr: :)
[03:48] <kk4ewt> mmkumr, also look into octane as a matlab replacement
[03:50] <al2o3-cr> xz: what did you try?
[03:51] <xz> al2o3-cr: I tried xrandr, I tried nvidia-settings
[03:51] <mmkumr> kk4ewt: NO, Actually I have downloaded it for institutional purpose and I don't want to use windows OS. So I have downloaded it for ubuntu for short time period.
[03:51] <xz> al2o3-cr: and I tried 'displays' in ubuntu settings
[03:51] <xz> al2o3-cr: I just started a thread on nvidia forum as well, https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1023278/linux/how-do-i-get-native-2560x1600-resolution-on-m1000m-ubuntu-16-04/
[03:51] <kk4ewt> mmkumr, matlab has linux ports and octane is linux
[03:52] <kk4ewt> and 2015a had some major bugs
[03:52] <al2o3-cr> xz: have you tried setting a newmode with xrandr?
[03:53] <mmkumr> kk4ewt: ok. But both the software's UI is similar or not.
[03:54] <al2o3-cr> xz: have you generated a modeline first?
[03:54] <mmkumr> The .iso.bz2 file has extracted successfully
[03:54] <mmkumr> :)
[03:54] <kk4ewt> yes your matlab files will run in octane
[03:55] <mmkumr> kk4ewt: Then fine I will try it.
[03:56] <xz> al2o3-cr: I think so, I used for example that tutorial: https://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution
[03:56] <xz> al2o3-cr: I tried multiple times xrandr with options --newmode and --addmode
[03:57] <xz> al2o3-cr: if you understand that a little bit more, I can do all that again and give you exactly error messages
[03:57] <al2o3-cr> xz: you did choose the right monitor?
[03:57] <xz> al2o3-cr: I did, yes
[03:57] <xz> al2o3-cr: my external display is called DP-1
[03:58] <xz> al2o3-cr: it's little funny as it is connected to HDMI port over HDMI->DVI cable
[03:58] <xz> al2o3-cr: and DP-1 suggests that linux recognizes that as DisplayPort
[03:58] <xz> al2o3-cr: no clue, however, it's correct display, at least the same on is reported in nvidia-settings
[03:59] <al2o3-cr> well, if you followed that tut i'm stumped as to why then
[04:00] <kk4ewt> xz which nvidia driver are you using
[04:00] <kk4ewt> go to nvidia.com and make surre you are using the correct driver
[04:00] <kk4ewt> and it could be the cable
[04:01] <xz> kk4ewt: 384.69 - I believe it's the latest one
[04:01] <xz> kk4ewt: I checked Nvidia website and my GPU was listed for that driver, so I think that part is correct
[04:01] <xz> kk4ewt: the story is it works on Win 10, so from the hardware point of view I know *it can work*
[04:02] <xz> kk4ewt: however, 2560x1600 resolution wasn't listed by default under win10, I had to add it manually
[04:17] <mkquist> help with partitions...   had a hardware problem and could boot only to ubuntu (dual boot), recovered windows (7) not dont see the ubuntu part in gparted on live cd...
[04:17] <mkquist> (now) not not*
[04:19] <Bashing-om> mkquist: pastebin ' sudo fisk -lu
[04:39] <spider_x> Hello all, I am experiencing some very slow boot and shutdown, any idea how I could progress to diagnose the issues? Both in boot up and boot down no text is shown.
[04:41] <mkquist> partition question..  dual boot win7/ubuntu and had hardware problem which required reboot, ubuntu worked but not win7, used recovery console to fixboot now dont see ubuntu part at all
[04:46] <Bashing-om> mkquist: Boot a liveUSB(DVD) and pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . See if the ubuntu partitions are seen .
[05:00] <mkquist>  Bashing-om - will do, let me change machines and reboot this one....
[05:03] <mkquist> back
[05:12] <mkquist> stupid me.. who was trying to help?
[05:12] <mkquist> https://pastebin.com/79t5ew2g either way..
[05:16] <Bashing-om> mkquist: Looking  .
[05:20] <mkquist_> whoever was trying to help, im sorry but was on web irc and dont remember the name....   partition problem with win7 and ubuntu..
[05:21] <Bashing-om> mkquist: Nope. linux partitions no longer exists . All that is on that sda drive is Windows :(
[05:22] <mkquist> oops.. thank you anway
[05:22] <mkquist> Bashing-om: thank you anyway
[05:23] <Bashing-om> !recovery | mkquist
[05:23] <Bashing-om> mkquist: Opps . wrong one ^
[05:26] <Bashing-om> mkquist: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery if you are sure you had ubuntu on that sda drive .
[05:50] <tmuwa> exit
[06:57] <arunkumar413> Does ubuntu recommend any laptop which runs Ubuntu smoothly
[06:58] <arunkumar413> My HP laptop come with propritery drivers and ubuntu isn't smooth. It's drains the battery quickly.
[06:59] <ducasse> not afaik. there is a certified hardware list, but not for laptops.
[07:01] <arunkumar413> Can u share the link to the certified hardware
[07:01] <ducasse> just google it?
[07:01] <arunkumar413> Why doesn't ubuntu work with laptop vendors to give a very good experience
[07:02] <ducasse> it's probably more the other way around.
[07:03] <arunkumar413> Hardly 2 percent of ppl use Linux and developers are wasting their entire life on building a OS which hardly any ppl use
[07:04] <ducasse> do you know how big a share of the server market linux has? and this is not a support issue.
[07:05] <arunkumar413> I'm talking about the desktop
[07:05] <ducasse> it's still not a support question, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <arunkumar413> I just made a comment not a support question
[07:07] <arunkumar413> My ubuntu now gone to sleep mode
[07:07] <arunkumar413> and is not waking up
[07:08] <arunkumar413> The screen is black but the power button is glowing
[07:33] <lesshaste> how can I search for a manually installed .deb by name?
[07:35] <ducasse> synaptic can display locally installed packages, and you can use aptitude search terms as well to only search those packages.
[07:59] <sbef> hello guys. is it possible to change that awful super ugly ubuntu bootsplash? i tried with all tutorials i found, it didn't work.
[08:04] <ducasse> sbef: easy to turn off, never tried switching it. the 'plymouth' package would be the thing to investigate there, afaik.
[08:08] <lesshaste> ducasse, thanks
[08:08] <lesshaste> ducasse, aptitude search "~o" appears to be the magic command line
[08:10] <ducasse> lesshaste: yes, i rarely use aptitude myself these days, but that seems right.
[08:10] <lesshaste> I never use it
[08:10] <lesshaste> but someone suggested this
[08:12] <ppang> https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/388260/140642
[08:14] <geirha> Yeah, aptitude is usually the first package I install on a fresh ubuntu :)
[08:15] <donkeysnore> :)
[08:15] <geirha> the manual page for aptitude is far from complete though. The full documentation is in /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README, which is where you'll find the "magical" ~o
[08:16] <geirha> «?obsolete     |~o            |Match installed packages that cannot be downloaded.»
[08:38] <cloudbud> how to resolve this error :  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:41] <bielski> @cloudbud try to get more specific info, this info from pkg installer but what is the real reason for that specific package?
[08:41] <ducasse> cloudbud: also, crossposting is generally considered a bad thing
[08:42] <cloudbud> bielski : I am trying to install it using apt-get
[08:42] <cloudbud> getting error in output
[08:43] <cloudbud> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 getting this now
[08:44] <bielski> @cloudbud I don't remember know how to do it but google 'apt-get verbose logs' or sth similar
[08:45] <bielski> @cloudbud: to know exactly which step failed
[08:47] <ducasse> cloudbud: pastebin the complete output, including the command
[08:48] <cloudbud> ducasse :
[08:50] <cloudbud> https://pastebin.com/raw/T5v0FiMh
[08:51] <cloudbud> ducasse : https://pastebin.com/raw/T5v0FiMh
[08:51] <ducasse> why are you censoring the packagename?
[08:56] <ducasse> cloudbud: anyway, that's not a package from the repos, so contact whoever you're getting it from.
[08:56] <cloudbud> ducasse : its a package developed by a developer
[08:56] <Ben64> ha
[08:57] <ducasse> cloudbud: obviously
[08:57] <Ben64> then fix it by fixing it
[08:57] <ducasse> cloudbud: nvm, fix this yourself.
[08:58] <cloudbud> nvm ?
[08:58] <ducasse> 'never mind'
[10:08] <lesshaste> how do I tell which dns server my ubuntu machine is using?
[10:16] <ddellav> lesshaste cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:16] <hateball> That only works if you're not using network-manager, otherwise it lists the loopback interface
[10:17] <lesshaste> ddellav, that gives nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:17] <lesshaste> search config
[10:17] <lesshaste> hateball, right... what can I do?
[10:18] <hateball> lesshaste: nmcli sh conn <tab your conn here> |grep domain_name
[10:18] <ddellav> oh whoops, thought this was ubuntu-server
[10:18] <ddellav> my mistake
[10:18] <lesshaste> nmcli device show  enp2s0
[10:18] <lesshaste> that shows it
[10:19] <lesshaste> now how do I change it?
[10:19] <BBMAsk> On Ubuntu i see a one main issue that on Debian is not aper
[10:19] <BBMAsk> Ubuntu after couple of day work in
[10:20] <BBMAsk> the have strange unexpected behavior
[10:21] <BBMAsk> That situation  mainly aper on  after updates
[10:22] <BBMAsk> Event, in it's have default repository  set up
[10:24] <BBMAsk> what is cos this kind of thinks in Ubuntu ? Lack of information flow between project Ubuntu is based of ?
[10:25] <BBMAsk> This kind of situation don't aper in Linux-mint
[10:26] <BBMAsk> most buggy it's Ubuntu Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[10:33] <vlt> !details | BBMAsk
[10:36] <BBMAsk> The question was more glob scope - lack on stability in long run without re-install it after first error ( in not touching mainly configurations files of based apps)   -  apear on Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[10:38] <BBMAsk> if system run, but without update it's less secure but rock solid with stability in log term development on it an own project
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:09] <anddam> hellop
[11:11] <anddam> I'm trying to use a specific monitor layout in lightdm login screen itself, before login, I found this https://askubuntu.com/a/363992 that would be very convenient since copying monitors.xml is easier than writing the relevant xorg sections
[11:11] <BBMAsk> Why adding monitor in clone mode it's easy on Mac Os X, than on Ubuntu without configure Xorg server and with open source drivers based on mesa ?
[11:11] <anddam> but it doesn't work on xenial, I copied the file, reassigned it to lightdm:lightdm and chmod'ed it to 664, stopped and started lightdm again to no avail
[11:11] <anddam> journalctl doesn't mention anything, any hint on what I could check?
[11:12] <anddam> BBMAsk: what?
[11:14] <BBMAsk> I ask in constructive way - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Whys
[11:16] <BBMAsk> What is cos that clone mode with 2 or more monitor in different Hz frequency, it's not so simple as in Mac Os X  ?
[11:17] <BBMAsk> Why software cant detect this automatically?
[11:17] <BBMAsk> Based on open source drivers ?
[11:19] <Ben64> BBMAsk: this isn't really the place to complain
[11:21] <BBMAsk> Better mechanism will be allow to have all function  of video cards in system
[11:21] <BBMAsk> Like so detect monitor automatic, and add in user space, blacklist files configuration.
[11:22] <Ben64> BBMAsk: ok cool. if you don't have a support question you're in the wrong channel though
[11:22] <BBMAsk> That disable eventually unwonted feature by program write in python and added control panel in display section
[11:22] <BBMAsk> Chanel are good :)
[11:23] <BBMAsk> Sorry thugs are good :)
[11:24] <BBMAsk> Chanel wrong :)
[11:25] <BBMAsk> So, good place will be developer channel ?
[11:29] <ai101> hello
[11:32] <ai101> wtf
[11:32] <ai101> aaaaaaaaaa
[11:32] <ai101><PHONE_NUMBER>
[11:33] <ai101> 0u0b0u0n1t1u1
[11:33] <ducasse> ai101: stop that
[11:36] <bytefire> :)
[12:00] <OnkelTem> HI all
[12:01] <antonm> Hi
[12:01] <OnkelTem> How to stop right-click from being detected as left click?
[12:01] <antonm> What kind of mouse are you using
[12:01] <OnkelTem> "Bloody V7"
[12:03] <OnkelTem> let me find something more sensible
[12:05] <OnkelTem> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bloody-V7M-Gaming-Mouse-/191715939020?epid=1023582586&hash=item2ca32912cc:g:MdwAAOSwe7BW023L
[12:08] <adrian_1908> OnkelTem: Have you checked in Ubuntu's mouse options? There might e.g. be a left/right-handed toggle that could be responsible for the reversal.
[12:08] <OnkelTem> adrian_1908: didn't found anything
[12:08] <OnkelTem> find*
[12:09] <ducasse> OnkelTem: does this also happen if you use another mouse?
[12:10] <OnkelTem> I haven't checked it :-/
[12:10] <adrian_1908> OnkelTem: and help articles gave no userful advice? I don't know if the latest Ubuntu still uses X or libinput, if the former I'm pretty sure there are many guides you can use to remap the buttons.
[12:12] <ducasse> OnkelTem: check that before hunting down software problems
[12:12] <ai101> oh hey
[12:13] <ai101> i have ubuntu issues
[12:13] <adrian_1908> ducasse: what's the use though, if his main mouse happens to do that? He'll want to fix it instead of using another, no?
[12:14] <ai101> the issue is when i deleted the ubuntu partition and i wanted to reinstall ubuntu... it said i already have it when i deleted the partition?
[12:14] <ducasse> adrian_1908: because we'll have more info to find out if it's a hardware or software problem. he'll need to know that to fix it, no?
[12:15] <ai101> You guys have an idea how to fix?
[12:15] <ai101> my issue?
[12:15] <ai101> it says like i already have this grub rescue bootloader thing
[12:15] <ai101> i dont know how to get rid of that
[12:15] <adrian_1908> ducasse: yeah, I wouldn't even assume this is anything but a hardware issue to be fixed by software adjustment :)
[12:15] <ai101> update mouse drivers
[12:15] <ai101> or get a new mouse
[12:16] <ai101> that may fix the issue
[12:16] <ai101> if you have a spare mouse test it with that
[12:17] <ai101> Any of you here?
[12:17] <adrian_1908> ai101: describe your problem again, I'm not sure I understand. You want to wipe Ubuntu and re-install over it?
[12:17] <ai101> yes
[12:17] <ai101> i used computer management
[12:17] <ai101> to get rid of partition
[12:17] <ai101> gparted is better you get more control
[12:18] <ai101> but i didnt even know what gparted was at that time
[12:18] <adrian_1908> ai101: So it's a partition different than the one you're running gparted on, yes?
[12:18] <ai101> wait i wasnt running gparted
[12:19] <ai101> the Ubuntu installer that i was using automatticaly made a new partition for ubuntu
[12:19] <ai101> so i deleted that
[12:19] <ai101> and there is this "grub rescue loader" that is confusing the installer
[12:20] <ai101> i need to get rid of the grub thing
[12:20] <ai101> i even formatted my whole pc to fix the issue
[12:20] <ai101> and guess what..
[12:20] <ai101> it removed everything except the grub loader
[12:21] <ai101> so i am quite pissed off that i cant get ubuntu working
[12:21] <ai101> cuz i love that os
[12:21] <ai101> windows is fine but sometimes i wanna run linux distros
[12:22] <ai101> @adrian_1908 you still there?
[12:22] <ai101> wait..
[12:22] <ai101> THIS THING IS EXPOSING MY IP
[12:22] <ai101> really
[12:22] <ai101> wow
[12:22] <adrian_1908> ai101: Yes, sorry – I'm not sure what to make of it. You have Windows and Ubuntu on the same Disk?
[12:22] <ducasse> !enter | ai101
[12:22] <ai101> @ubottu ok
[12:23] <ai101> Yes but different partitions
[12:23] <ai101> same disk, different partitions..
[12:24] <ai101> one was a linux swap i think
[12:24] <ai101> and my windows partition was nfts
[12:24] <ai101> afk will say when im back
[12:25] <ai101> back
[12:27] <adrian_1908> ai101: Installing over it doesn't work? Did you do it manually like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU_dkeFprhY ?
[12:27] <ai101> lemme check the vid'
[12:27] <ai101> thx for the help, i really appreciate it.
[12:28] <adrian_1908> I never had such an issue, but I kept Windows and Linux on separate disks (and hence their bootloaders).
[12:28] <ai101> smart idea
[12:28] <ai101> i have another 1tb disk
[12:28] <ai101> but i dont wanna use it cuz it had other stuff on it
[12:29] <ai101> and plus my dad uses it all the time
[12:29] <adrian_1908> Yeah, keep that for data. Just saying that I might not have had the issue because mine didn't share the same disk.
[12:30] <ai101> i didnt use this "manual option" i used the "automatic option"
[12:31] <ai101> wait a sec the guy in that vid is using a....... virtual box client
[12:32] <ai101> oh i get it now.. wait i have to get the new install disc and my internet is sometimes 30kbps i am scared now
[12:32] <adrian_1908> Yes, but that shouldn't make a different in this case. I'd try to remove all non-Windows partitions, and just create a single ext4 (mount point "/") parititon to install Ubuntu on.
[12:32] <adrian_1908> (my reply is regarding your virtual box comment)
[12:33] <ai101> ext4?
[12:33] <ai101> i thought it was linux swap o.o
[12:34] <ai101> k this is relly confusing meeeeeeeeee
[12:34] <adrian_1908> ai101: ext4 is what you'd install Ubuntu on. Swap isn't needed anymore in recent versions as Ubuntu moved to a swap file.
[12:34] <ai101> swap isnt needed?
[12:34] <ai101> in 16.04 lts?
[12:35] <ai101> is swap recommended?
[12:35] <adrian_1908> ai101: looks like 17.04 is the first: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/12/ubuntu-17-04-drops-swaps-swap-partitions-swap-files
[12:35] <ai101> really..
[12:35] <ai101> i wanted an lts
[12:36] <adrian_1908> swap is recommended if you're short on Ram, otherwise not needed in my experience.
[12:36] <ai101> i am short on ram
[12:36] <ai101> 4 gigs
[12:36] <ai101> 3.8 usable
[12:36] <adrian_1908> Ok, then in your case do create a swap partition and use it :)
[12:36] <ai101> how big should it be
[12:36] <akik> ai101: 4 gigs is plenty
[12:37] <ai101> my pc gets laggy when you use 1 gig
[12:37] <adrian_1908> Half of your physical ram, i.e. 2GB? that sound reasonable to me. It's mostly for emergencies when a process takes more than your system can handle.
[12:38] <ai101> i tried installing mac on vbox it worked but it was lagging my pc like hell
[12:38] <adrian_1908> Anyway, try reinstalling Ubuntu manually and see if that fixes the Grub issue. The problem might just get "overwritten" if you're lucky.
[12:38] <ai101> cuz it was using so much ram]
[12:38] <ai101> k
[12:38] <ai101> "overwritten"
[12:38] <ai101> hmm
[12:38] <ai101> well i doubt that
[12:39] <ai101> i think canonical needs to make their installers a bit more basic for nubs like me
[12:39] <akik> ai101: if you reinstall ubuntu, it'll take care of the boot sector or uefi settings
[12:39] <ai101> but my pc has secure boooot
[12:40] <akik> ai101: secure boot is handled by ubuntu
[12:40] <ai101> i had to go into windows 10 bios to load ubuntu
[12:41] <ai101> akik:really
[12:41] <ai101> akik: cause i want it double boot when i start my pc
[12:42] <ai101> can ubuntu manage that?
[12:43] <ai101> btw make an ubuntu discord
[12:44] <ai101> still there
[12:45] <CarolinaRube> any chance for sensible high dpi display support sometime?  i'm running open source apps in windows 10 so I can see them.
[12:46] <akik> ai101: point the ubuntu installer to your efi system partition
[12:46] <akik> ai101: when selecting where to put grub
[12:46] <ai101> where do i do that in the installer
[12:47] <akik> ai101: it's on the page where you create the partitions
[12:47] <ducasse> CarolinaRube: file bugs on the problems you find with the hidpi support, so they can be fixed
[12:47] <ai101> cuz there are already unessesary instances of grub in my system
[12:47] <ai101> hmm ill see
[12:48] <CarolinaRube> ducasse: thx, i will
[12:49] <RonWhoCares> How do I change this to search subdirectories recursively   ls ./*[!x]odt
[12:50] <adrian_1908> RonWhoCares: ls -R … maybe?
[12:50] <akik> ai101: on my laptop i have to select the efi boot file in the laptop's bios screen (EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
[12:50] <ai101> wait
[12:51] <ai101> oh
[12:51] <tsglove> Hello... running into a problem.  I am trying to change the hostname of a small virtual machine.  I do it both with   #sudo hostname new_name         or by modifying   sudo /etc/hostname          and then restart.             The hostname is in fact changed, yet sudo no longer works.      What am I missing?
[12:51] <adrian_1908> akik: yes, that's how I remember to too. There's a drop-down where you select where to write the efi information to. In my case there were to choices (different disks).
[12:52] <adrian_1908> *remember it too
[12:52] <ai101> i have phoenix bios
[12:52] <Pici> RonWhoCares: ls doesn't really do that well, something like:  find . -regex '.*[^x]odt'   should work
[12:52] <ai101> can you do it in that bios
[12:52] <RonWhoCares> ls: cannot access ./*[!x]odt: No such file or directory
[12:52] <akik> ai101: you'd have to check it yourself
[12:52] <ai101> hmm what bios u have
[12:52] <ducasse> !hostname | tsglove
[12:53] <akik> ai101: it doesn't matter which bios i have
[12:53] <adrian_1908> ai101: Dude, just do it. It seems you're here to strike endless conversations instead of fixing your problem.
[12:53] <tsglove> ducasse, huh... thank you. Trying that out now.
[12:54] <ai101> k gosh
[12:57] <tsglove> ducasse, excellent. I was reading up, yet didn´t quit understand the full of it.   ubottu´s message was concise.  Thank you!
[13:00] <ducasse> tsglove: no problem
[13:03] <vimes> hello! Tryin to set up a webserver for use  when learning php on my own, but I fail with the permissions on /var/www after installing apache. see https://hastebin.com/apasixisag.rb I feel Like I've tried the entire two first pages of google, but nothing helps.
[13:03] <vimes> any ideas? The hastebin is the ls -al output of the folder
[13:04] <nchambers> sudo chmod +w /var/www/html ?
[13:04] <vimes> but is that safe?
[13:04] <vimes> I want to do it by being a member of www-data. which I am
[13:04] <foca_> Hey guys...Today when I started my computer I just took a look in software center and I saw some duplicated applications installed, those that were duplicated is write below "source: www.ubuntu.com.br". Should I worrry about it ? thanks
[13:05] <akik> vimes: did you login again after adding yourself to www-data group?
[13:06] <vimes> I tried to restart the computer akik
[13:06] <akik> vimes: tried and succeeded?
[13:07] <vimes> yes :)
[13:07] <ducasse> foca_: can you pastebin the output of 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d'?
[13:07] <tsglove> Hey guys, how come this works (from link)??   sudo apt install lamp-server^   .  I do apt-cache search lamp    and see no packages listed for lamp-server                ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[13:08] <foca_> ducasse: gerardpuig-ubuntu-ppa-zesty.list google-chrome.list google-chrome.list.save graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-zesty.list graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-zesty.list.save opera-stable.list opera-stable.list.save plushuang-tw-ubuntu-uget-stable-zesty.list plushuang-tw-ubuntu-uget-stable-zesty.list.save skype-stable.list skype-stable.list.save
[13:09] <vimes> the weird things is that I did this on linux mint, should be exactly the same? (giving myself permissions on war/www(
[13:10] <adrian_1908> vimes: yeah, the permissions issue makes no sense from my point of view, odd.
[13:10] <akik> vimes: do you see www-data if you run "id" ?
[13:10] <ducasse> foca_: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list itself
[13:10] <vimes> yes akik
[13:10] <vimes> akik, https://hastebin.com/olakahuxak.rb
[13:12] <adrian_1908> chmod is 7xx for the dir?
[13:12] <akik> adrian_1908: looks to be 2775
[13:12] <adrian_1908> ok
[13:13] <vimes> you talking about me?
[13:13] <vimes> I tried setting this up inn a vm now, and it worked! I have no clue what I've done wrong. this is a clean new ubuntu 16.04 install
[13:14] <ducasse> tsglove: it's not a package, it's a tasksel task
[13:15] <tsglove> tasksel task... searching for that now.  Thanks ducasse !
[13:15] <ducasse> tsglove: run 'tasksel'
[13:15] <foca_> ducasse: I don't understand you answer
[13:16] <ducasse> foca_: can you pastebin that file?
[13:16] <tsglove> ducasse, TIL!  Quite interesting!
[13:26] <foca_> ducasse: http://pasted.co/bfa091be
[13:30] <corentin> I'm having trouble installing unity-teak-tool, any clue how to solve this issue? https://pastebin.com/DJeE1Efh
[13:31] <corentin> basically it seems like apt is not pulling dependencies correctly for this program
[13:31] <corentin> tried to add this ppa: ppa:freyja-dev/unity-tweak-tool-daily
[13:31] <corentin> but same problem
[13:33] <ducasse> corentin: you are using at least one ppa that is causing this problem, i suggest you start purging them.
[13:33] <ducasse> foca_: no, read again. i need the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:33] <corentin> ducasse: I already removed all ppa
[13:34] <corentin> see apt-get update at beginning of pastebin
[13:34] <ducasse> corentin: did you use ppa-purge?
[13:34] <corentin> mmmmm no
[13:34] <corentin> guess I'll look into it
[13:34] <ducasse> corentin: then the packages from them are still installed.
[13:34] <corentin> I see, thanks!
[13:35] <ducasse> !ppa-purge | corentin
[13:36] <corentin> ducasse: should I reinstalled the ppa before ppa-purge can purge them?
[13:36] <ducasse> corentin: yes.
[13:37] <corentin> thx!
[13:46] <corentin> mmm looks like ppa-purge can't find the package list for the repo, so it's doing nothing :/
[13:48] <ducasse> corentin: did you run apt update?
[13:49] <corentin> ducasse: yes
[13:49] <corentin> am I doing something wrong? https://pastebin.com/k8Mj2BJ7
[13:49] <corentin> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skypeforlinux.list => deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
[13:50] <corentin> same for virtualbox
[13:50] <ducasse> corentin: you can only use that syntax on launchpad ppas, on third-party repos you need to use the options in the man page
[13:51] <ducasse> corentin: i'm heading out now, but someone else can help you with that
[13:51] <ducasse> bbl
[13:52] <corentin> thx, see you
[13:53] <foca_> ducasse: http://pasted.co/906236bf
[13:54] <corentin> ok correct syntax was: sudo ppa-purge -s repo.skype.com -o deb -p dists
[13:54] <pankaj_> How can I check that whether my linux is using which bootloader grub legacy or grub2?
[13:57] <corentin> pankaj_: grub-install --version
[13:57] <corentin> also you could check /boot/grub
[13:57] <corentin> files are different in there whether it is grub1 or grub2
[13:58] <corentin> sometimes the folder is called /boot/grub2 but not always
[13:58] <pankaj_> corentin: Thanks very much.
[13:59] <corentin> pankaj_: wait, have you installed both and just want to validate which one is installed in the MBR?
[14:00] <pankaj_> corentin: I just wanted to know which grub version was my OS using.
[14:00] <corentin> pankaj_: then it's ok
[14:01] <pankaj_> corentin: I was reading about grub-legacy in a book.
[14:01] <pankaj_> corentin: So, to later to understand about the grub2 and to make same differences.
[14:17] <corentin> cool everything's working now!
[14:17] <corentin> thank you ducasse
[14:18] <holgerdanske> How would I utilize a Java based backend to an API? I realize this is probably a remedial question but it's something I've never had to tangle with til just now.
[14:24] <pankaj> corentin: Can I work with grub interface inside m terminal emulator. I want to check some commands
[14:26] <linuxlove> heu guys
[14:26] <linuxlove> i need to download https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/7.0.4/tor-browser-linux64-7.0.4_en-US.tar.xz
[14:26] <linuxlove> can someone put it in one place and give me a download link ?
[14:29] <ducasse> linuxlove: why can't you just download it from there?
[14:29] <linuxlove> i dont have access in my country
[14:30] <linuxlove> ducasse, can you do it?
[14:30] <ducasse> linuxlove: that's not what this channel is for, try #ubuntu-offtopic or something
[14:30] <holgerdanske> Uhhhh yeah that's definatly not a cool thing to be asking for on here.
[14:31] <linuxlove> okay
[14:32] <ducasse> linuxlove: i doubt any #ubuntu* channel will help you
[14:33] <linuxlove> ducasse, whats should i do then ?
[14:33] <foca_> ducasse: did you see my pastebin ?
[14:33] <CarlFK> I am sshed into a box.  i am trying to run xrandr to see what res the video card can do, and set it to something other than the 1024 that it defaulted to.  I get: juser@gator:~$ xrandr  ... Can't open display
[14:33] <ducasse> linuxlove: it's not our problem  or policy to help you circumvent local laws and regulations
[14:34] <ducasse> foca_: i was out, hang on
[14:34] <linuxlove> i just need it to use from my eclipse as socks proxy to get my repository
[14:36] <ducasse> foca_: that looks good. i don't use the software app, so i don't know what that message means, but it doesn't seem as if you have any suspicious sources.
[14:36] <xfceone> no sound ubuntu 16.04 after HDMI cable
[14:38] <CarlFK> xfceone: hdmi supports sound. that is where your sound is going.  Settings, Sound, change the "play sound though" to ... the other choice - hopefully it is that simple
[14:38] <xfceone> I can`t hear sound from headphones after change my videocard
[14:40] <xfceone> any solution?
[14:41] <Bashing-om> xfceone: What was the old card , what is the new card, and what driver is now loaded for the graphic's card ?
[14:41] <V7> OnkelTem: I'm not bloody ...
[14:42] <xfceone> Nvidia Quadro 290 256 mb the old card
[14:42] <xfceone> Nvidia Geforce 210 1 gb the new
[14:43] <thanzex> hi there! i can't seem to get bluetooth to work, i'm on ubuntu 17.04 on a dell xps 15 9550, the device seems to be working but doesn't detect any devices, tell me if you need anything
[14:44] <Bashing-om> xfceone: Old card . what driver is loaded ? Pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[14:45] <pankaj> corentin: Can I work with grub interface inside m terminal emulator. I want to check some commands
[14:45] <corentin> pankaj: I'm not sure, I think you have to go trough the boot menu
[14:46] <pankaj> corentin: When I type 'grub' in terminal it says that I can install it by typing 'sudo apt-get ------'. So, what does it mean?
[14:46] <thanzex> systemctl status bluetooth gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/25417922/
[14:46] <corentin> pankaj: what if you type grub2?
[14:47] <thanzex> and bluetoothd gives "D-Bus setup failed: Name already in use"
[14:47] <corentin> pankaj: sorry it doesn't exists also
[14:47] <pankaj> corentin: It gives error that no command for it has found.
[14:47] <corentin> pankaj: try this: dpkg -l 'grub*'
[14:47] <xfceone> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25417926/
[14:47] <corentin> you're interested in the lines starting with 'ii'
[14:48] <corentin> those are the installed packages
[14:48] <xfceone> Bashing-om : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25417926/
[14:49] <pankaj> corentin: Yes
[14:49] <ducasse> pankaj: afaik, no, you can't do that
[14:49] <Nothing4You> where does ubuntu manage networking on a fresh installed desktop machine?
[14:49] <pankaj> ducasse: Surely ?
[14:49] <ducasse> Nothing4You: network manager
[14:49] <Nothing4You> do you know which files?
[14:49] <ducasse> pankaj: hmm?
[14:50] <Bashing-om> xfceone: Nope, wring friver, you want the 340 version for the Geforce 210 : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/114719/en-us .
[14:50] <pankaj> ducasse: I was just puzzled that when I typed 'grub' it said that I can install it. Now, what if I installed or what will it do?
[14:51] <corentin> pankaj: it will probably install grub-legacy (grub 1)
[14:51] <ducasse> Nothing4You: /etc/NetworkManager - but you are expected to use the tools to manage it aiui
[14:51] <corentin> but not sure
[14:51] <corentin> pankaj: what are you trying to acomplish?
[14:51] <xfceone> Bashing-om I have 32 bit system
[14:51] <Bashing-om> xfceone: K; lemme see if 32 bit makes a difference .
[14:52] <pankaj> corentin: Just for knowledge. But, sorry in some books it had been stated that grub1 and grub2 are both under the grub and not in grub-legacy.
[14:52] <xfceone> give me the 32 bit link please
[14:52] <ducasse> pankaj: when i type 'grub' here i get no such message, which release is this?
[14:52] <pankaj> corentin: OK. Now I know.
[14:53] <Bashing-om> xfceone: dame - 340 : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/114718/en-us . Install that driver from our repo !
[14:53] <xfceone> I can hear sound if put headphones in my motherboard?
[14:53] <Nothing4You> ducasse: i see
[14:53] <diamjdk> anyone having positive experience with opensuse? I have to use it instead of ubuntu
[14:53] <Bashing-om> !sound | xfceone
[14:54] <thanzex> no one knows about bluetooth?
[14:54] <ducasse> Nothing4You: gui - use the app, cli - use nmcli or nmtui
[14:54] <ducasse> diamjdk: offtopic here
[14:54] <xfceone> !sound
[14:55] <Nothing4You> ducasse: i guess i'll just look at how to disable nm
[14:55] <Nothing4You> so i can manage it via /etc/network/interfaces
[14:55] <thebigj> From the experience of Yesterday, I have decided to prepare blog post for it.
[14:56] <thebigj> I was unexpectedlly formatted my boot partition.
[14:56] <ducasse> Nothing4You: just configure the interface there and nm will not manage it
[14:56] <Nothing4You> ok
[14:56] <thebigj> Here is the blogpost. https://github.com/ultimatecoder/Blog/pull/20
[14:56] <Nothing4You> thanks
[14:56] <ducasse> Nothing4You: (unless you explicitly tell it to)
[14:56] <thebigj> I am writing first time on GRUB. I don't have much experience on this topic.
[14:56] <xfceone> thanks
[14:57] <ObiWanKan> I am trying to set wallpaper through a cron job but get the following error : failed to commit changes to dconf: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY
[14:57] <thebigj> I will help verymuch if anyone from here can proofread the post.
[14:57] <thebigj> Thanks!
[14:57] <thebigj> ducasse: https://github.com/ultimatecoder/Blog/pull/20
[14:57] <thebigj> ioria: https://github.com/ultimatecoder/Blog/pull/20
[14:58] <ducasse> thebigj: you might want to edit the description, now it sounds like you spoonfed us how to do it ;)
[14:58] <ObiWanKan> Setting through commandline works fine.. but cronjob fails
[14:59] <diamjdk> ObiWanKan, i think there are configuration on update-alternative
[14:59] <ducasse> ObiWanKan: cronjobs don't run in your user environment, so don't have access to your x display
[14:59] <diamjdk> ObiWanKan: desktop-background i think
[15:00] <ioria> ObiWanKan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#GUI_Applications
[15:00] <thebigj> ducasse: Description of the PR?
[15:00] <ioria> thebigj, good job
[15:00] <ducasse> thebigj: yes, i don't have time to look  at it fully now
[15:01] <ioria> ObiWanKan, you need to set DISPLAY
[15:01] <thebigj> ducasse: OKay. If you can suggest anyone I can take their advice then it will be verymuch helpful.
[15:01] <thebigj> ioria: Thanks!
[15:07] <ObiWanKan>  ioria, lemme try this.. debugging cronjobs is a pain :'(
[15:38] <chrisml> how can i increase `net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max` permanently?
[15:38] <ducasse> chrisml: which release?
[15:39] <chrisml> ducasse trusty
[15:39] <leftyfb> chrisml: http://antmeetspenguin.blogspot.com/2011/01/high-performance-linux-router.html (first result on google for "net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max perm" )
[15:40] <chrisml> leftyfb thanks
[15:40] <ducasse> chrisml: add a file to /etc/sysctl.d, i assume
[15:41] <leftyfb> Anyone know how to make do-release-upgrade completely non-interactive? I've tried "Dpkg::Options { "--force-confdef"; "--force-confnew"; }" in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/local and /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg as well as setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive.
[15:43] <MajesticFudgie> Anyone able to point me in the right direction in setting up two NICs on OVH?  The routing commands I use are "route blah blah" yet some sites say "ip route" and tell me to edit /etc/iproute2/rt_tables
[15:44] <soee> hi all, any idea how to fix this snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks ?
[15:44] <leftyfb> MajesticFudgie: shouldn't OVH support be able to help you with this?
[15:45] <MajesticFudgie> Well, I'd assume it's basic routing though?
[15:45] <frostschutz> MajesticFudgie, route is old, ip route is new. no idea about ovh's setup, don't they have wiki/docs or maybe a customer forum?
[15:45] <nacc> soee: in what context? sounds like snaps --> #snappy
[15:45] <MajesticFudgie> I just have to statically set an address and route through a gateway
[15:45] <soee> nacc: when trying to run an app installed via snap
[15:45] <nacc> soee: yeah, ask in #snappy
[15:46] <soee> nacc: sure, thanks
[15:46] <MajesticFudgie> Like so, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25418165/
[15:46] <frostschutz> MajesticFudgie, give details and output of ip link, ip route
[15:46] <MajesticFudgie> I just need to get two routes on two nics to play ball, as soon as I add a 2nd nic Ubuntu suddenly decides that all the other nic's don't matter and only uses that one. Apache etc ends up only listening on that nic
[15:47] <MajesticFudgie> Ok, one sec
[15:48] <frostschutz> MajesticFudgie, the listen ip is another problem, you have to set that in the apache cfg. as long as you can ping these IPs you set you should be good, routing wise
[15:48] <MajesticFudgie> Ideally I'd be listening on all interfaces via <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:50] <MajesticFudgie> frostschutz http://paste.ubuntu.com/25418178/
[15:56] <frostschutz> MajesticFudgie, what you posted first was ens160, your route has ens192 and ens224... your default route says dev ens192, so which one is it now?
[15:56] <MajesticFudgie> Oh sorry, I took ens160 as an example
[15:57] <MajesticFudgie> ens160 is my LAN, ens192 and ens224 are both my outgoing NIC's
[15:57] <MajesticFudgie> both are setup the same
[15:57] <MajesticFudgie> just different addresses
[16:13] <foca_> ducasse: Good to read that... I did the command apt-get autoremove then all those duplicate applications now gone but that looked really weird for me
[16:15] <cjohnson> How can I specify the password that is supplied to dpkg for the mysql root password from the command line?
[16:16] <cjohnson> My server standup script is mostly automated but right now you have to enter the password 4 times and hope you got it right all 4 times
[16:16] <cjohnson> Sorry, the context is "when installing mysql-server"
[16:16] <cjohnson> apt-get install mysql-server will spawn an interactive dpkg
[16:17] <cjohnson> Thanks rubber duck: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7739645/install-mysql-on-ubuntu-without-password-prompt
[16:42] <chrisml> what's the best way to download 100gb+ of files from one server to another?
[16:42] <soee> wget ? rsync ?
[16:43] <_BIGSHOT_> wow 100GB+++!!! chrisml what is it? movies?
[16:44] <chrisml> soee looks like wget -b does it
[16:44] <_BIGSHOT_> chrisml, what is 100GB>
[16:44] <_BIGSHOT_> >
[16:44] <_BIGSHOT_> ?
[16:44] <_BIGSHOT_> chrisml, all the pawn fiel?
[16:44] <chrisml> _BIGSHOT_ pics of your mom
[16:44] <bl4ck0ut> https://aria2.github.io?
[16:45] <_BIGSHOT_> chrisml, no look carefully they are your sisters!
[16:45] <chrisml> lol
[16:45] <tgm4883> rsync
[16:45] <chrisml> yeah probs gonna use rsync
[16:46] <_BIGSHOT_> chrisml, seriously what are you doing with all those Large files? i also want it for time pass
[16:47] <chrisml> _BIGSHOT_ user avatars
[16:47] <_BIGSHOT_> you run a forum?
[16:47] <chrisml> no
[16:53] <EriC^^_> to disable automatic updates completely all i need to do is have this is /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic ? http://termbin.com/k4f2
[16:54] <EriC^^_> do i also need to set APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1"; to 0? thanks
[16:57] <jemoeder> test
[16:57] <_BIGSHOT_> ting
[16:58] <_BIGSHOT_> jemoeder, yo bud how's it hanging
[16:58] <jemoeder> Crippling depression
[16:58] <_BIGSHOT_> dang why
[16:58] <jemoeder> Nah just kidding
[16:59] <_BIGSHOT_> howdoyou pass your time jemoeder
[16:59] <jemoeder> (I know, not something to joke about)
[16:59] <jemoeder> But Reddit karma tho
[16:59] <_BIGSHOT_> howdoyou pass your time jemoeder
[17:00] <WarKitteh> Hi
[17:00] <_BIGSHOT_> hey
[17:00] <_BIGSHOT_> WarKitteh, are you girl?
[17:00] <WarKitteh> I´m kinda new to IRC stuff
[17:00] <_BIGSHOT_> nice
[17:00] <WarKitteh> Any interesting channels?
[17:00] <_BIGSHOT_> sure
[17:00] <WarKitteh> No, I´m a guy
[17:00] <_BIGSHOT_> foff then
[17:01] <WarKitteh> Well ok
[17:01] <_BIGSHOT_> what are your interests?
[17:01] <WarKitteh> Programming (obviously), reading, rowing
[17:02] <WarKitteh> But do you know any interesting channels I can join?
[17:02] <WarKitteh> I´m kinda bored
[17:02] <_BIGSHOT_> >>  /msg alis LIST *searchterm*
[17:02] <_BIGSHOT_> WarKitteh, i am bored too
[17:02] <WarKitteh> Wow
[17:02] <WarKitteh> Ok
[17:02] <WarKitteh> Nice
[17:02] <_BIGSHOT_> WarKitteh, what do you do when you get bored?
[17:02] <ducasse> please take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:03] <WarKitteh> Ok
[17:03] <WarKitteh> Sorry
[17:03] <_BIGSHOT_> man ducasse you made that poor guy quit
[17:11] <pankaj> What is the difference between halt and shutdown?
[17:14] <ikonia> shutdown shuts down the OS, halt halts the whole system
[17:15] <ikonia> on a modern PC shutdown will also "halt" too
[17:15] <ikonia> hence shutdown -h
[17:16] <pankaj> ikonia: So, what does halt does? I read in a book that halt runs before shutdown so I though it would be another daemon and performs job like logging but could not understand fully.
[17:16] <ikonia> neither are daemons
[17:17] <OnkelTem> V7: :)
[17:18] <pankaj> ikonia: I think halt means to pause?
[17:19] <ikonia> no
[17:19] <OnkelTem> V7: I imagine someone with "Hi" nick. Well, this guy wouldn't make use of hilights!
[17:19] <pankaj> ikonia: Please explain.
[17:19] <ikonia> I just did
[17:20] <V7> OnkelTem: True )
[17:22] <pankaj> ikonia: Hello
[17:23] <ikonia> hi
[17:50] <malwar3hun73r> i have an issue where my drive is full and i cannot update/upgrade - i also cannot autoremove but apt seems to have gotten stuck during a header install
[17:50] <malwar3hun73r> but = because
[17:51] <malwar3hun73r> every command is met with a  "Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)"
[17:51] <malwar3hun73r> which, if i run that i just get "No space left on device"
[17:53] <leftyfb> malwar3hun73r: clean up your drive
[17:54] <malwar3hun73r> i'm trying, but there's not really much to clean up since it's just the OS (all data is on a separate drive)
[17:54] <leftyfb> malwar3hun73r: how big is the drive/root partition? Is /boot a separate partition? Is that the partition that's filled?
[17:57] <malwar3hun73r> it's not the boot partition that's full
[17:58] <leftyfb> malwar3hun73r: and the answers to the other questions?
[18:00] <malwar3hun73r> one sec...
[18:01] <de-facto> malwar3hun73r, you can try locate the biggest files like in a root terminal like "du -ax / | sort -rn | head -100"
[18:01] <leftyfb> sudo !!
[18:01] <de-facto> the  "/" being the path to the starting directory
[18:02] <malwar3hun73r> correct
[18:03] <malwar3hun73r> drive is 7 GB
[18:03] <malwar3hun73r> the largest files are almost all kernels
[18:03] <malwar3hun73r> i've been dpgk --purge on older ones, i guess i can continue down that path
[18:07] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: you just said /boot isn't full, but then that the largest files are kernels? do you mean kernel headers?
[18:08] <malwar3hun73r> things like:/lib/modules/4.4.0-92-generic
[18:08] <nacc> malwar3hun73r: those are the kernel's modules. If you remove the kernel (did you try `sudo apt autoremove` ?), it should remove the modules. If you don't need that kernel, that is
[18:09] <de-facto> malwar3hun73r, you also can try to clean out old cached files from apt like "sudo apt-get clean"
[18:09] <malwar3hun73r> correct, i've been following this and it seems to be helping http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/remove-old-kernels-ubuntu-16-04/
[18:09] <malwar3hun73r> at least removing a couple so i can then do an autoremove
[18:12] <linux_user> I wrote a udev rule and only part of it (Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop) is executing
[18:12] <linux_user> here is the rule:
[18:12] <linux_user> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:0c:29:ba:dd:ad", RUN+="/sbin/ip link set dev %k address 04:99:00:00:00:01", NAME="eth0"
[18:12] <linux_user> it changes the device name to eth0
[18:12] <linux_user> but the mac address does not change
[18:14] <linux_user> It does work when the %k is replaced with eth0 though!
[18:17] <nacc> linux_user: i think you want $name
[18:17] <nacc> linux_user: not %k
[18:17] <nacc> linux_user: since you are changing name
[18:18] <linux_user> ok
[18:18] <linux_user> whats the difference between %k and $name?
[18:18] <nacc> linux_user: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man7/udev.7.html\
[18:18] <linux_user> I'll try it right now
[18:18] <linux_user> ok
[18:18] <nacc> linux_user: %k is the kernel name, while $name is the name of the device from the rule (including side effects of the rule)
[18:19] <linux_user> I clicked that link and no page came to my browser by the way
[18:19] <nacc> linux_user: the distinction is in the latter case. generally they are the same, but if you are renaming in a rule, then you want ot use $name
[18:19] <nacc> linux_user: sorry, trailing \
[18:19] <nacc> linux_user: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man7/udev.7.html
[18:21] <linux_user> what if I wanted to print out the value of %k how could I do that in a udev rule and pipe it to a file or that so I know what it is?
[18:22] <nacc> linux_user: i think you can just add another RUN+="/bin/echo %k > /path/to/file" ?
[18:22] <nacc> linux_user: i'm not sure
[18:23] <nacc> linux_user: you might be able to echo directly, but i can't recall if that gets logged to syslog or not
[18:23] <vook> how can I prevent modules in kernel/zfs from being loaded and instead force modules in extra/zfs to be loaded?
[18:23] <vook> in a way that persists across kernel upgrades, etc.
[18:24] <linux_user> well your modification did work!
[18:24] <linux_user> mazel tov!
[18:25] <nacc> vook: what version of ubuntu? at least in latest, there is no extra/zfs from ubuntu packages (that i can see)
[18:25] <nacc> linux_user: yw
[18:26] <vook> nacc: It's xenial, these are custom built modules from zfsonlinux
[18:28] <ducasse> vook: are you building yourself? would the zol ppa be a solution?
[18:28] <vook> no, those don't support native zfs encryption - was just merged recently
[18:29] <vook> I can just remove /lib/modules/version/kernel/zfs, but that's not going to persist across kernel upgrades
[18:29] <nacc> vook: why are you not using the ones provided by ubuntu?
[18:29] <nacc> vook: ah i see
[18:29] <nacc> vook: well, that seems like a question the zfs folks would be able to answer quickest. I don't know how to tell modprobe to use specific paths by default, sorry
[18:30] <ducasse> vook: set them up with dkms?
[18:31] <vook> I'm following this guide: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Custom-Packages, and it only supports kmod for debian/ubuntu.
[18:31] <vook> I've tried unsuccessfully to adapt dkms configs from zol 0.6.5 to 0.7.1
[18:36] <ducasse> ok, what about the daily ppa, then? :)
[18:36] <vook> doesn't support zfs native encryption
[18:36] <vook> strangly it still claims to be part of trusty as wel
[18:42] <vook> found it, it's /etc/depmod.d
[18:44] <SirCmpwn> I have a script that installs some packages, and I need it to answer "n" (keep your currently-installed version) to the modified config files prompt
[18:44] <SirCmpwn> what's the best way of accomplishing this?
[18:49] <ducasse> SirCmpwn: apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install ...
[18:50] <nettlejam> I'm seeing problems with mounting volumes specified in fstab on boot on 16.04. Fstab entries look like this '/dev/xvdm /var/data ext4 defaults,nofail 0 2'. Most of the time they mount fine on reboot, but sometimes, randomly, i get failure messages from fsck and then mount saying the device is busy... at boot
[18:50] <nettlejam> This is on EC2 with EBS volumes, BTW. Multiple servers, having the same issue with the same config
[18:51] <nettlejam> Never happened with 14.04 so I'm wondering if it's related to how systemd is now handling mounts
[18:51] <leftyfb> SirCmpwn: --force-confold
[18:51] <leftyfb> oops, already answered
[18:53] <linux_user> does anyone know of a way to determine what the values of $name or %k would be in the udev rules? how can I print them or log them or capture them?
[18:53] <linux_user> what other variables are there too?
[18:54] <foca_> Failed to query NVIDIA devices. Please ensure that the NVIDIA device files (/dev/nvidia*) exist, and that user 122 has read and write permissions for those files.
[18:54] <foca_> Anyone could help here with that erro ?
[18:55] <ducasse> linux_user: see 'man udev' for that last question
[18:58] <SirCmpwn> ducasse: leftyfb: thanks
[19:00] <ducasse> foca_: where did you get that message?
[19:01] <foca_> ducasse: from Applications\utilities\logs
[19:01] <ducasse> foca_: _which_ log?
[19:02] <linux_user> ducasse, ok
[19:03] <dkfadf2884> Any idea why I'm getting Error: Unable to locate package -- for any/all packages? My sources.list file is correct.
[19:03] <EriC^^> dkfadf2884: did you try sudo apt-get update ?
[19:03] <dkfadf2884> Yes
[19:03] <dkfadf2884> Updates fine
[19:04] <dkfadf2884> xubuntu 16.04-- sources.list is fine, deleted everything in /var/apt/lists, and ran apt-get update
[19:04] <linux_user> ducasse: I saw what the variables mean in the man page, but the man page did not speak to how to print their current value (which is what I was trying to ask, if I was unclear). Did I miss something in the man page??
[19:05] <EriC^^> dkfadf2884: try "ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists"
[19:05] <ducasse> foca_: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/934350/linux/nvidia-persistenced-failed-to-query-nvidia-devices-/
[19:06] <dkfadf2884> Eric^^: It shows files
[19:06] <ducasse> linux_user: i said it was an answer for your last question, not your first one :) didn't you get an answer for that earlier?
[19:06] <EriC^^> dkfadf2884: is there a file /var/lib/dpkg/available ?
[19:07] <foca_> ducasse: I saw that forum already but a did not understand what they're suggesting to do
[19:08] <dkfadf2884> EriC^^: Yes
[19:08] <dkfadf2884> Should I rebuild it?
[19:09] <EriC^^> dkfadf2884: what happens if you type "apt-cache policy irssi" ?
[19:11] <dkfadf2884> Strange 500 error on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Pacakges
[19:12] <dkfadf2884> Installed (none)
[19:12] <dkfadf2884> W/ a version table of 0.8.19-1ubuntu1 500
[19:12] <EriC^^> dkfadf2884: which package were you trying to install that it said didnt exist?
[19:12] <dkfadf2884> Any package
[19:13] <dkfadf2884> libvirt / vim
[19:13] <dkfadf2884> python-pip
[19:13] <dkfadf2884> wireshark
[19:13] <dkfadf2884> All fail
[19:15] <dkfadf2884> Virtualbox/vagrant/docker.io/ansible all fail
[19:19] <leftyfb> dkfadf2884: try a different repo. http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu for instance
[19:20] <dkfadf2884> Same problem....it's like it doesn't read my sources.list
[19:20] <dkfadf2884> However I know it is because apt-get update shows the pull
[19:20] <dkfadf2884> I'll try that repo tho
[19:22] <dkfadf2884> So just using deb http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu xenial main, apt-get update works, and installing still fails-- error to locate packages
[19:22] <pankaj> I just deleted some important file by typing 'rm *' by mistake. How can I recover them?
[19:24] <leftyfb> pankaj: restore from backup will be your easiest way
[19:25] <pankaj> leftyfb: If I had one I would surely have. Now I understood the importance of backup. From today my first aim is to create backup. After reading several blocks I am confirmed that my important files are gone. Thanks
[19:25] <religiono> hi
[19:26] <religiono> My cpu is consuming too much.
[19:26] <religiono> it's like 50% all the time or more. how do i find out the cause
[19:26] <religiono> it's over heating the cpu
[19:27] <ducasse> pankaj: look into extundelete if this is ext4, and you just might be able to recover them.
[19:28] <pankaj> ducasse: How do I do that?
[19:30] <ducasse> pankaj: you should probably run it from a live usb/cd. there are a few guides online on how to use it, if the man page isn't enough.
[19:30] <pankaj> ducasse: I installed it and trying to use it.
[19:31] <dkfadf2884> well a fresh install worked so w/e
[19:31] <dkfadf2884> Still donno how that's possible
[19:31] <ducasse> pankaj: were the files on your root filesystem?
[19:32] <pankaj> ducasse: No. In my home directory
[19:32] <ducasse> pankaj: yes, but is that a separate filesystem?
[19:33] <pankaj> ducasse: I think No
[19:34] <ducasse> pankaj: then you shouldn't have done that, but used a live usb. now you've written to that fs and might have overwritten what was left of the files.
[19:35] <pankaj> ducasse: I knew that I could not recover (sadly)
[19:36] <ducasse> pankaj: try to google 'extundelete tutorial
[19:36] <ducasse> pankaj: try to google 'extundelete tutorial' and try it from a live session.
[19:36] <ducasse> pankaj: you might be lucky.
[19:36] <pankaj> ducasse: I hope I do not waste the time rather then recraeting those files that I lost.
[19:37] <ducasse> pankaj: up to you.
[19:37] <pankaj> ducasse: Thanks
[19:39] <linux_user> ducasse: I didn't see a response, but, I am trying to determine what the value of %k or other things are, or have a way to determine what their real values are. I did come with a solution for now to making the rule work, but, I'd like to be able to know how to display the variable so I can debug it myself next time, you know?
[19:40] <linux_user> I found a few notes on google about using echo but they did not work
[19:41] <ducasse> !doesntwork
[19:48] <royal_screwup21> I'm on ubuntu 16.04 and I have a "hybrid graphics system", with one intel core i7 and a radeon graphic  card. I'm currently using the icore7 but I want to switch over to the graphic card. Here's what I get when I type in lspci -nn | grep -E 'VGA|Display' https://thepasteb.in/p/vghOzqGky1Nc3 How do I accomplish that?
[19:51] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: i think you need to select the card as primary in the bios
[20:15] <ducasse> royal_screwup21: and for the future, please don't crosspost. it's rude and not necessary.
[20:16] <royal_screwup21> understood, sorry about that
[20:20] <daddesio> Hi all, I'm looking for a clean way to do shell substitution in a file, e.g. all occurrences of $(echo $HOME) (or similar) in input.txt will be replaced with the output of that command. output the result to output.txt. You can do it with GNU m4 (using the esyscmd macro). I think you can also do it with vim?
[20:23] <daddesio> I want to preserve whitespace, so "echo $(cat input.txt) > output.txt" is not a nice solution.
[20:24] <reisio> I don't see why that wouldn't preserve whitespace, but...
[20:24] <daddesio> echo a     b -> outputs "a b"
[20:24] <reisio> can I ask why you want to replace variables with constants?
[20:25] <daddesio> Well I created a command "print-exact-float" which uses MPFR to print the exact decimal representation of a float, and I created a C file containing data like "{123, 456, 789, float32(0x3cdc0000)},"
[20:25] <oerheks> echo "$(cat input.txt)" gives the proper format, without removing \n
[20:26] <reisio> daddesio: already this explanation is too long :p
[20:26] <reisio> but it sounds like there's a better way to do what you want, by going one or more steps back
[20:26] <daddesio> just want to replace all occurrences of float32(0x3cdc0000) with 0.026855469f, etc.
[20:27] <de-facto> eval is evil?
[20:27] <reisio> ev-a-l, not evil
[20:27] <reisio> postprocessing is a good way to waste your time
[20:32] <de-facto> probably also something like "cat > output <<EOF   filecontent over multiple lines    EOF" with last EOF on single line in a #!/bin/sh script would interpret $(stuff) inside filecontent i guess (unless using 'EOF' after the cat cmd)
[20:34] <daddesio> I'll stick to GNU m4, since I got it working. maybe one day I'll add a "macro substitution" mode to my print-exact-float program (or just create more m4 scripts, yay!)
[20:34] <daddesio> this is a one-off job; I'm not putting this evil code on the internet
[20:35] <reisio> oh good :)
[21:06] <egelor> hi i upgrade my server form 12.04 to 14.04 and after restarts crashes with the command fsboot need a path
[21:07] <egelor> can you help me?
[21:08] <reisio> egelor: "fsboot"?
[21:09] <dckx_> join #ros
[21:09] <reisio> egelor: the internet has never heard of the combination of strings "fsboot" and "need a path"; please be more specific
[21:09] <egelor> nfsboot
[21:10] <reisio> you using NFS with your server?
[21:10] <egelor> yes
[21:11] <egelor> i can only use the grub terminal
[21:12] <reisio> sounds like it isn't receiving a path
[21:12] <reisio> what do you use NFS for?
[21:13] <egelor> to access over a computer network
[21:13] <reisio> to access what?
[21:14] <egelor> local storage
[21:14] <reisio> for the OS, or for something extraneous to the core OS?
[21:14] <egelor> now give me the ip of my router and need path
[21:15] <egelor> can i boot over 14.04 somehow?
[21:22] <reisio> you appear to be getting a pretty straightforward error message about something not being able to get a path from input it's expecting
[21:22] <reisio> if you need that to boot your OS, figure it out; if you don't, turn it off
[21:23] <dos000> mayday mayday .. i hosed my system :(((
[21:23] <reisio> gj
[21:23] <dos000> how do i go back to a pristine ubuntu install ?
[21:24] <tgm4883> reinstall
[21:24] <dos000> i dont want to reformat everything ..
[21:24] <dos000> my machine is still working
[21:24] <tgm4883> dos000: well let's start from the beginning, what did you hose
[21:24] <dos000> but something i installed made it bork for zoom which i use for work
[21:24] <tgm4883> because "i hosed my system" != "my machine is still working"
[21:25] <reisio> dos000: what're you using, plain Ubuntu with Unity?
[21:27] <dos000> reisio: tgm4883 https://paste.ubuntu.com/25420202/
[21:27] <dos000> reisio: ubuntu 17.10
[21:28] <tgm4883> !ubuntu+1 | dos000
[21:28] <dos000> this was working alright before i rebooted ... i mostlikely installed something  that hosed zoom
[21:28] <reisio> so uninstall it
[21:29] <dos000> my question is how do you get back to a standard install ? lets say i wanted to go back to a simple unbuntu desktop install
[21:29] <dos000> reisio: i always use tar based install for that app .. something i installed is not happy with it
[21:30] <reisio> dos000: so go into /var/log/ and find what you've installed recently
[21:30] <tgm4883> This is the wrong place for dev support
[21:31] <dos000> reisio: do you mean /var/log/apt ?
[21:31] <reisio> sounds good
[21:32] <jerichowasahoax> Is there an fcron package for 16.04? I need to set MAILFROM and the default cron daemon doesn't support it, as best as I can tell.
[21:33] <tgm4883> !info fcron xenial
[21:34] <jerichowasahoax> does that also search PPAs? because i'm not allergic to those
[21:34] <reisio> !info fcron 16.04
[21:34]  * reisio rolls eyes
[21:34] <tgm4883> jerichowasahoax: no
[21:44] <choki> hello, i've some issues with 17.04. when i watch videos (flash) the sound is gone after a few minutes/seconds
[21:44] <choki> i don't know why
[21:46] <reisio> choki: in Firefox?
[21:46] <choki> reisio: in google-chrome, don't know if it is an issue with firefox
[21:47] <reisio> you right click and it says it's flash?
[21:47] <choki> yes
[21:48] <reisio> you tried chromium?
[21:48] <choki> reisio: it is always different, sometimes after 2 minutes, sometimes after 32 seconds.
[21:48] <choki> i try with firefox now
[21:48] <choki> reisio: do you think it depends on the browser?
[21:49] <jerichowasahoax> didn't google roll their own flash player
[21:49] <reisio> jerichowasahoax: bundled, yeah
[21:49] <choki> i don't know, i've heard flash will no longer get any updates
[21:49] <reisio> choki: I think so, yeah
[21:49] <jerichowasahoax> choki: adobe's player won't
[21:49] <reisio> yeah in about a year or something, IIRC
[21:50] <choki> it is good but still many sites use it
[21:50] <reisio> yeah it's no big deal, plenty of open source implementations
[21:50] <jerichowasahoax> choki: those sites are heathens
[21:50] <choki> i wish there is an inbuild way to just watch videos with mpv all the time
[21:50] <jerichowasahoax> i think mplayer used to have an NPAPI plugin
[21:50] <choki> jerichowasahoax: wht does it do?
[21:51] <jerichowasahoax> choki: what it *did* was embed mplayer into your browser as a video player
[21:51] <jerichowasahoax> choki: past tense for a reason: the API it depended on has been retired
[21:51] <choki> jerichowasahoax: oh, on the same position?
[21:52] <choki> reisio: thank you it works fine now!
[21:55] <reisio> choki: what does?
[21:56] <choki> reisio: watching videos without sound issues :)
[21:58] <reisio> what, chromium?
[22:00] <choki> reisio: firefox nightly :)
[22:02] <reisio> k, gj
[22:02] <reisio> probably chromium would work
[22:02] <reisio> it's hard to predict what closed source binary blobs like google chrome will do
[22:04] <boblamont> I just installed lubuntu 16.04 onto a usb stick on an Acer Aspire 9500 laptop... I have a different usb stick with an older version of lubuntu on it that boots into grub fine, but the new one brings up an error "symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found" and takes me to a rescue prompt... I've tried boot-repair a few times, but no luck (though it says it repaired it)
[22:04] <choki> reisio: are you working for resilio? your name looks like
[22:06] <virmaha> Hello..I've a soft link /build/bin pointing to /home/build/bin (/build/bin -> /home/build/bin) . How can I remove this link?
[22:08] <nacc> virmaha: unlink /build/bin ?
[22:08] <nacc> virmaha: might need sudo depending on permissions of /build/bin
[22:09] <reisio> choki: never heard of it
[22:09] <reisio> virmaha: rm without trailing slash
[22:09] <reisio> AKA rm without additional parameters
[22:09] <virmaha> nacc: wohoo thanks! Now how can i create the link properly? I want /build/bin/myfile to be looked up as /home/build/bin/myfile
[22:10] <nacc> virmaha: is that the only file you want linked?
[22:10] <virmaha> ln -s /home/build/bin/ /build/bin/ created a symbolic link at /build/bin/bin -> /home/build/bin/
[22:10] <virmaha> no entire directory
[22:10] <virmaha> nacc
[22:10] <nacc> virmaha: read the manpage, trailing slashes affect behavior
[22:11] <nacc> virmaha: well, really, it's a general shell thing i suppose
[22:11] <nacc> virmaha: if you want /build/bin -> /home/build/bin, then do: `ln -s /build/bin /home/build/bin`
[22:11] <nacc> (iirc)
[22:12] <boblamont> When I run boot-repair, it asks if the usb stick is a removable drive, I check yes, since it is... would saying no cause any harm? could that possibly help? I don't remember boot-repair ever asking that before, so it's one difference with the earlier (working) setup
[22:12] <virmaha> nacc: i think the arguments have to be swapped
[22:12] <nacc> virmaha: err, yes, sorry
[22:13] <nacc> virmaha: `ln -s /home/build/bin /build/bin`
[22:14] <virmaha> nacc: err..that does /build/bin/bin -> /home/build/bin :S
[22:15] <virmaha> nacc: so I've to do unlink /build/bin/bin
[22:16] <virmaha> okay i already had bin dir so
[22:16] <virmaha> deleted it and works fine..thanks nacc :)
[22:18] <nacc> virmaha: yw
[22:27] <preview> hi, could anyone help me getting usb-snd-caiaq working in Kubuntu 17.04?
[22:29] <boblamont> well, it worked... redid boot-repair, said it wasn't removable and boom: grub menu... so apparently lying is justified in this case
[23:13] <dury> hi there all
[23:15] <dury> hi :-)
[23:18] <Sven_vB> hi :) what kind of pipe is this showing up in my ls output? /proc/30220/fd/63 -> pipe:[27583640]
[23:21] <Sven_vB> I'm experimenting with spawning child processes from node.js, and when I ask node to establish a "pipe", instead of that "pipe:[…]" I get /proc/30220/fd/12 -> socket:[27583831], so there seem to be several types of pipes.
[23:27] <nacc> Sven_vB: the latter is a fd to a socket
[23:27] <nacc> Sven_vB: the former is a fd to a pipe
[23:28] <Sven_vB> nacc, so a socket isn't any kind of pipe?
[23:29] <Sven_vB> actually, I meant: is node just wrong (as in, bug) to call that a "pipe"?
[23:30] <nacc> Sven_vB: to call what a pipe?
[23:30] <Sven_vB> nacc, to call the socket a pipe
[23:30] <nacc> Sven_vB: the above is ls showing your information about the file, as told by the kernel
[23:30] <nacc> Sven_vB: where is it calling a socket a pipe?
[23:30] <nacc> Sven_vB: the two pastes you've provided so far are for different file descriptors
[23:31] <Sven_vB> when I ask node.js to create a child process and establish a "pipe" to it, the child gets a file descriptor that links to socket:[27583831]
[23:32] <Sven_vB> yeah that pipe fd is from bash, not node.js.
[23:32] <nacc> Sven_vB: seems like a question for a node.js channel
[23:33] <Sven_vB> nacc, the "how to get a real pipe" part, yes. however, the "is there any excuse to call a socket a pipe" seems more of a general linux question to me. :)
[23:34] <Sven_vB> what function would I use in C++ to create a pipe that I can share with a child process?
[23:35] <Sven_vB> aka which manpage should I read for the "create a pipe" command/function?
[23:35] <Sven_vB> (No manual entry for mkpipe)
[23:35] <Sven_vB> oh, there's actually one for just "pipe".
[23:35] <nacc> Sven_vB: and a genearl linux question would belong in #linux :)
[23:36] <nacc> Sven_vB: in c, it's pipe()
[23:42] <Sven_vB> could a function that creates a unix domain socket gonna help me create a pipe, or is that yet another mechanism?
[23:43] <nacc> Sven_vB: do you understand the difference between sockets and pipes
[23:43] <nacc> Sven_vB: they are not the same thing
[23:45] <Sven_vB> yeah sounds more like a special type of socket. so would a UDS yield a fd that shows socket:[number]?
[23:46] <odigem> hi
[23:46] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[23:47] <odigem> Sven_vB: what is it:     `
[23:48] <Sven_vB> odigem, I see the character U+0060 grave accent
[23:48] <Sven_vB> also called "backtick"
[23:49] <odigem> O.o
[23:49] <odigem> thx
[23:53] <odigem> Sven_vB: you bot?
[23:54] <Sven_vB> odigem, nope :)
[23:54] <odigem> you are human?
[23:54] <Sven_vB> yes
[23:55] <odigem> but humans not see character U+0060 grave accent :D
[23:55] <odigem> humans see strange oblique shit!
[23:56] <Sven_vB> I'm glad my IRC client displays just characters, no shit.


[00:26] <Fujitsu> Will apport's upgrade failure stuff also be disabled post release?
[00:26] <Fujitsu> Or just crashes?
[00:29] <TheMuso_> asac: According to that bug, it doesn't work for a user.
[00:36] <crimsun> TheMuso_: just asked for follow-up, thanks
[00:41] <crimsun> TheMuso_: more than likely, the stale gconf config is loading the detect module that attempts hw:0 after default is opened, and that will fail.
[00:41] <crimsun> s/loading/loaded by/
[00:41] <TheMuso_> Right.
[01:06] <emgent> heya
[02:57] <crimsun> TheMuso: it appears to be a race in the load order of suspend-on-idle and alsa-sink modules
[02:57] <crimsun> s/sink/source/
[02:58] <TheMuso> Fun.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> i'm really hating the fact that if i plug the power in when it gives me the warning about critical power, laptop will shut down if you dont' put the power in, that it just shuts down a few mins later anyway.
[03:44] <Hobbsee> bah.  that sentence failed the "making sense" idea.
[03:45] <Hobbsee> i hate the fact that the power manager says "plug in now to avoid a shutdown", then shuts down in a few minutes anyway, even if you do plug in.
[03:51] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Hm, doesn't do that for me.
[03:52] <Fujitsu> And I often get that warning.
[03:52] <Hobbsee> lucky
[04:29] <Fujitsu> TheMuso: As a Canonical person, can you poke somebody to unbreak LP?
[04:30] <TheMuso> Fujitsu: Whats up with it?
[04:30]  * TheMuso is about to head out.
[04:30] <Hobbsee> TheMuso: it's broken.
[04:30] <Fujitsu> It's hanging, returning OOPSes with the ID `None', and some of the appservers seem to just not be working.
[04:30] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: they'll be asleep, it's a weekend.
[04:30] <Fujitsu> Exactly.
[04:30] <Fujitsu> And my usual sysadmin-waking contact is also asleep.
[04:31] <TheMuso> sorry guys, heading out with family and kinda gotta go now...
[04:31] <Fujitsu> OK, see you.
[08:26] <Hobbsee> oy!  someone broke sudoku!
[08:26] <Hobbsee> we can't release with that!
[08:32] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: WFM. What's borked about it?
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: can't launch it
[08:36] <Hobbsee>   File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gnome_sudoku/game_selector.py", line 151, in make_saved_game_model
[08:36] <Hobbsee>     sudoku.sudoku_grid_from_string(g['game'].split('\n')[1].replace(' ','')).grid,
[08:37] <Hobbsee>   File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gnome_sudoku/sudoku.py", line 232, in sudoku_grid_from_string
[08:37] <Hobbsee>     assert(len(s)<=GROUP_SIZE**2)
[08:37] <Hobbsee> AssertionError
[08:42] <Fujitsu> Nice.
[08:42] <Fujitsu> Remove the saved game?
[08:43] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: where is it?
[08:43] <Hobbsee> works on a new profile.  must be a config issue
[08:43] <Hobbsee> i just can't find the saved game
[08:44] <Hobbsee> ah ha.  .sudoku
[08:44] <Fujitsu> It'll be in ~/.gnome2/gnome-sudoku.
[08:44] <Fujitsu> Or there, maybe.
[08:44]  * Hobbsee didn't check for the obvious place
[08:44] <Hobbsee> yeah, that fixed it
[08:44] <Fujitsu> Yeah, ~/.sudoku is right.
[08:44] <Fujitsu> ~/.gnome2/gnome-sudoku is the generated ones.
[08:45] <Fujitsu> I can't see how a game could have violated that assertion.
[08:49] <Hobbsee> no idea....
[08:52] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: i like the winning screen now.  it reminds me of my myspace page.
[08:53] <Fujitsu> Heheh.
[08:54] <realist> Hobbsee: I'm not sure if that's a good thing?
[08:55] <Hobbsee> realist: of course it is!
[08:55] <Fujitsu> Oh yes. It's a very good thing indeed.
[08:55] <Hobbsee> it was a *lovely* page.
[08:55] <Fujitsu> I was disappointed to find it missing several months ago :(
[08:55]  * Hobbsee shakes her fist at the evil myspace page for deleting it
[08:55] <Hobbsee> er, people
[08:55] <Fujitsu> Aw... why did they delete it?
[08:55] <Hobbsee> dunno
[08:55] <realist> I've never seen one that doesn't look like a dog's breakfast
[08:55] <Hobbsee> i'm assuming they did, as it's not there now
[08:56] <Hobbsee> realist: oh, you never saw it?
[08:56] <Fujitsu> It was a work of art.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: the comments were the best
[08:56] <Fujitsu> I wonder if archive.org caught it.
[08:56] <realist> Hobbsee: Nope, but it sounds like it was amazing.
[08:56] <Fujitsu> Argh, no.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> damn.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> realist: similar to http://www.klickibunti.org/buntibunti.php
[08:57] <Hobbsee> realist: with added bits about people cursing me for burning their eyes out.
[08:57] <Fujitsu> Yeah. And the pony.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> and "it bothers you less the longer you look at it.  SERIOUSLY!"
[08:57] <Hobbsee> yeah
[08:58] <Hobbsee> forgot about the pony for a bit there
[08:58] <Mithrandir> mm, ponies.
[08:58] <Mithrandir> almost as good as brains.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir!
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Not even close.
[08:59]  * Hobbsee hugs Mithrandir
[08:59] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee!
[08:59] <Mithrandir> why do you run around with your at on?
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Look, a Mithrandir! Haven't seen one of them around these parts in a while.
[08:59] <Mithrandir> Fujitsu: I've been around
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: it makes good armour.
[08:59] <Mithrandir> new job and such takes most of my time, though.
[09:00] <realist> I've never understood the pony references...
[09:00]  * Hobbsee uses the @ as a shield against Mithrandir
[09:00]  * Fujitsu steals Hobbsee's donut.
[09:00]  * Hobbsee steals Fujitsu's computer, but happily lets Fujitsu have the donut.
[09:00] <realist> That doughnut looks more like a snail!
[09:00] <Fujitsu> Damn.
[09:00] <Fujitsu> realist: But it's no good stealing snails.
[09:00] <Hobbsee> realist: http://i-want-a-pony.com/
[09:01]  * Mithrandir ruffles Hobbsee back
[09:01] <Fujitsu> You can never beat the April Fools Slashdot theme.
[09:01] <Hobbsee> heya ogra
[09:02] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: now, if slashdot put in that background....
[09:02] <realist> Hobbsee: ahhh
[09:02] <Fujitsu> I'm glad to see it's valid XHTML 1.1, too.
[09:02] <Fujitsu> It just needs the scrolly rainbow background now.
[09:03] <Hobbsee> indeed.
[09:04]  * Hobbsee heads out for a while
[09:04] <Hobbsee> enjoy the rainbows.
[09:04] <realist> I just discovered a new pet peeve today
[09:05] <realist> Using proprietary software, you have more reliance on the vendor for support
[09:05] <realist> Whereas, help for F/LOSS is a mere google search
[11:30] <Hobbsee> realist: this was a surprise to you?
[11:31] <Whoopie> mjg59: yes, there's a uevent BAY_EVENT=3, but the drives are "deleted" automatically, so that I don't know if a script has the time to unmount the drives successfully.
[11:31] <laga> oh my god. mjg59. *cries*
[11:31] <laga> mjg59: i stayed up until 2am to read your blog. you rock.
[11:31] <realist> Hobbsee: it'd never occurred to me before today.
[11:32] <Hobbsee> realist: ah.
[11:33] <mdke> need a bit of help with sed. Is there a way to replace all instances of X in a file, but only where they appear in a line containing the string Y?
[11:34] <Hobbsee> mdke: i'm sure there's a more elegant solution, but why not grep for Y, pipe the output thru the sed command, then save to a file?
[11:34] <realist> mdke: use awk?
[11:34] <laga> Hobbsee: because anything not Y will be missing?
[11:35] <Hobbsee> laga: good point
[11:35] <mdke> realist: I'm not familiar with awk, is it easy to learn?
[11:37] <afflux> mdke: sed '/Y/s/X/Z/g' -- where Z is the "new" pattern
[11:37] <afflux> err, new string that is
[11:38] <mdke> afflux: ok, thanks - I'll try that. is it ok just to escape "/" in the pattern with a period or do I need something else?
[11:39] <highvoltage> Hobbsee: hmm, the problem with your solution would be that you lose the lines that doesn't contain the string
[11:39] <afflux> mdke: not sure, try it :P
[11:39] <Hobbsee> highvoltage: yeah, you'd need a if else thing.
[11:39] <afflux> mdke: ah, according to the manpage Y is a regex
[11:41] <highvoltage> it works here
[11:41] <highvoltage> replace foo with bar in every line that contains STRING:
[11:42] <highvoltage> sed /STRING/s/foo/bar/g filename > newfile
[11:43] <mdke> doesn't seem to work with backslashes in the foo and bar strings
[11:44] <mdke> I tried to escape them with a period each time
[11:44] <afflux> mdke: hm? Can we see the command?
[11:44] <highvoltage> could you give an example?
[11:44] <laga> escaping with a period with in a regex?
[11:44] <laga> -with ;)
[11:44] <mdke> the command I tried was sed '/Xinclude/s/./C.//./hu.//g' index-hu.xml > index-hu.xml
[11:45] <mdke> string X being "/C/" and string Z being "/hu/"
[11:45] <mdke> lemme try escaping with a \
[11:45]  * highvoltage was thinking the same thing
[11:45] <laga> no
[11:46] <mdke> nope, that doesn't work either, results in an empty file
[11:46] <laga> mdke: try using "," instead of / for the sed command. eg s,foo,bar, instead of s/foo/bar/
[11:46] <laga> or did you try to do that with the periods?
[11:47] <mdke> laga: so I tried sed '/Xinclude,s,\/C\/,\/hu\/,g' index-hu.xml > index-hu.xml - that didn't work either
[11:49] <afflux> mdke: the following should work: sed '/Xinclude/s/\/C\//\/hu\//'
[11:50] <afflux> at least it works on a local test file I just made up
[11:51] <mdke> afflux: it works except for the "> index-hu.xml" bit, that seems to cause an empty file
[11:51] <laga> yeah
[11:51] <Fujitsu> mdke: That's because the shell overwrites it first.
[11:51] <laga> use sed -i index-hu.xml
[11:51] <Fujitsu> Use -i on the sed, rather than shell piping.
[11:51] <highvoltage> ok, you can put the /C/ part in brackets, that will make it find the string correctly
[11:52] <realist> Much more elegant than my awk solution, at least
[11:52] <mdke> Fujitsu: ah, I see - thanks everyone
[11:52] <mdke> that works alright :)
[11:53] <realist> cat file |awk '{match(Y) print gensub(X,Z) else print $0}' > outfile - or some such
[11:54] <realist> if(match(Y,$0)!=0) rather
[11:55] <realist> needs a semicolon too - absolutely not tested
[11:55] <mdke> gah, there is one more thing
[11:56] <mdke> if I need to use a "for y in x ; do" type script, and I need ${y} for one of the strings, how can I do that? It seems just to be putting ${y} in the file
[11:56] <mdke> sed, I mean
[11:57] <mdke> the command I tried was:
[11:57] <mdke> for i in *.po ; do y=$(basename ${i} .po) ; echo ${y} ; sed -i '/XInclude/s/\/C\//\/${y}\//' ../../index-${y}.xml ; done
[11:58] <mdke> but sed takes ${y} literally
[11:58] <mdke> not sure if I'm explaining myself :)
[11:59] <afflux> thats because of the ', try using " instead
[11:59] <afflux> (IIRC)
[11:59] <realist> ' would prevent shell expansion, yes
[12:00] <realist> s/expansion/evaluation
[12:00] <mdke> yay
[12:00] <mdke> thanks afflux
[12:00] <afflux> yw
[12:02] <highvoltage> mdke: try using " instead of '
[12:02] <highvoltage> oh sorry, didn't see that being mentioned already.
[14:49] <hermanr> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=311188#272 <-- Is this worthy of discussion with the APT developers?
[14:49] <ubotu> Debian bug 311188 in debian-edu-config "debian-edu-config: Messes "programmatically" with conffiles of other packages" [Important,Open]
[14:50] <hermanr> My comment was a spin-off: Apt repository interoperability
[14:51] <hermanr> I suggested extending APT with metadata for declaring compatiblity between repositories.
[14:53] <james_w> we discussed either removing debian-edu, or ripping out all of the parts that do bad things like this on Ubuntu to protect users
[14:56] <hermanr> That's the manual short term fix.  I was concerned about the wear and tear on users, helpers and developers caused by the frequent bad surprises mixing of Apt repositories lead to.
[14:56] <highvoltage> mdke: fwiw, sed '/include/s#/C/#/hu/#g' filename works for me
[14:58] <hermanr> james_w: IMO, mixing of Apt sources should not be as dangerous as it is.  It's powerful.  Sometimes it's even necessary.
[14:58] <hermanr> However, improving matters is not low hanging fruit. :-/
[15:01] <hermanr> james_w: Has Ubuntu included Debian-edu in their proposed sources?
[15:02] <james_w> hermanr: yes, it's in universe
[15:03] <hermanr> james_w: That's implicitly endorsing Debian-edu, for better and for worse.
[15:03] <james_w> yes
[15:04] <hermanr> And evidently, Debian-edu will not accept any responsibility for that.
[15:04] <hermanr> james_w: Have you approached Debian-edu and asked them if they are willing to support cross-installations like that?
[15:05] <hermanr> james_w: Or, vice versa, has Debian-edu approached you?
[15:05]  * hermanr is only loosely involved in debian-edu now
[15:05] <james_w> not me personally, no.
[15:06] <hermanr> s/you/y'all/
[15:06] <james_w> I'm not sure what would be required for cross installations.
[15:06] <hermanr> I just resent situations where pointing fingers lead to people washing their hands.
[15:08] <james_w> if you want to look at the viability of making debian-edu work on Ubuntu, that would be appreciated
[15:08] <james_w> otherwise I think that just neutering the package so that user's can't harm their installations is the best approach.
[15:08] <hermanr> I'm not into the tech side of it, so I'm afraid not. :-(
[15:08] <james_w> I have a suspicion that most people are just interested in the meta-packages, rather than the configuration stuff.
[15:09] <hermanr> mhm
[15:09] <hermanr> So there should be a derivative that isn't "real" Debian-edu, just a dry run with all the packages?
[15:10] <hermanr> Alas, it won't work for a full Debian-edu setup.  And that has to be made clear!
[15:12] <jdong> anyone know the timeline for vmware server in Hardy partner?
[15:12] <hermanr> Adaptive configuration that will never mess things up, irrespective of the environment, is hard!  That's why custom distros is such a common workaround.
[15:16] <hermanr> james_w: Yes, I think you need to neuter the Debian-edu packages before adding them to Universe.  They make assumptions based on stock Debian.  Ubuntu isn't stock Debian, so the assumptions fail.
[15:18] <james_w> yup
[15:33] <soc> did someone get pulseaudio working on 8.04?
[15:33] <soc> is there maybe a bugreport already?
[16:10] <emgent> heya people
[16:13] <crimsun> soc: do you have a specific issue?  If so, please inform in #ubuntu+1.
[16:16] <soc> ok
[16:24] <Darklock> is tkamppeter ever around?
[16:26] <johanbr> Darklock: SeenServ- I last saw tkamppeter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>1d 13h 11m 59s ago
[16:27] <Darklock> d'oh
[16:36] <mjg59> Whoopie: On a Thinkpad? There should be a separate event when you flick the eject lever, which doesn't cause the deletion
[16:36] <mjg59> Though on most devices, all we get is the eject
[17:23] <laga> slangasek: can you merge r1300 from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/debian-cd/mythbuntu-debiancd ?
[18:11] <Whoopie> mjg59: there isn't with my thinkpad R52.
[18:12] <mjg59> Whoopie: Did you get one with the bay driver?
[18:13] <mjg59> Whoopie: Ok. event=2 shouldn't destroy the device.
[18:13] <mjg59> Whoopie: The hotplug code is only called if event is 0 or 1
[18:14] <Whoopie> mjg59: with the bay driver, I got a BAY_EVENT=3 on eject and 1 on insert
[18:16] <Whoopie> mjg59: and now, I only get 3
[18:18] <mjg59> Whoopie: Ok, 3 certainly shouldn't be causing the device deletion
[18:18] <mjg59> Take a look at line 128 of drivers/ata/libata-acpi.c
[18:23] <Whoopie> mjg59: and now? ;)
[18:24] <mjg59> Whoopie: The hotplug call is only made if the event is 0 or 1 - the 3 should just go to userspace, and the device only be destroyed when you actually pull it out
[18:27] <Whoopie> mjg59: what i see in drivers/ata/libata-acpi.c in 2.6.25 is different from this: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=237d8440cb2b104a3b97fc971a9bce67960bb616
[18:30] <mjg59> Whoopie: Are you using 2.6.25 or 2.6.24?
[18:30] <Whoopie> mjg59: 2.6.25
[18:30] <mjg59> Someone's broken it
[19:26] <crimsun> TheMuso_: / asac: ok, I think I have a middle-of-the-road solution that addresses all the regressions from previous Ubuntu releases and allows hal-aware hot(un)plug.  I've been testing it for the past hour, and it seems reasonable.  I've added comments on the bug.
[19:31] <asac> crimsun: interesting
[19:36] <asac> crimsun: any idea why my pulseaudio might not start with device hw:0 being busy?
[19:38] <crimsun> asac: which pulseaudio config are you using, the default one in the current pulseaudio package or one patched?
[19:38] <asac> crimsun: i think it should now match the one from your patch
[19:38] <asac> i manually changed it that way
[19:38] <asac> oh wait
[19:47] <asac> crimsun: thumbs up from me :)
[19:47] <asac> rock
[19:47] <asac> ogra: ^^
[19:47] <asac> can you test that as well?
[19:51] <asac> ogra: its bug 192888
[19:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192888
[19:52] <asac> \sh: ^^
[19:52] <slangasek> laga: done
[19:55] <laga> slangasek: yay.
[19:56] <superm1> slangasek, did you talk to tjaalton already about fglrx 8.04?
[20:01] <slangasek> superm1: I think so, I think I declined it for final
[20:01] <slangasek> and recommended making it an SRU for 8.04.1
[20:01] <superm1> ah
[20:01] <superm1> even though it fixed a few of the pending issue w/ regard to the proprietary aticonfig tool?
[20:07] <slangasek> yes; there are always pending issues to be fixed, but I don't want to be accepting black-box upgrades between RC and final
[20:07] <slangasek> it should go through the SRU process at this point so we can take our time with it and make sure it's done right
[20:07] <superm1> alright :)
[20:45] <Adri2000> slangasek: the debdiff for the tasks upload sitting in the queue is http://adrishost.net/~adri2000/ubuntu/toupload/tasks_0.13-1ubuntu1.debdiff, it will allow the package to be translatable in rosetta and its translations to be available in the langpacks
[21:25] <Whoopie> mjg59: I can't find the commit where they changed your patch.
[21:32] <popey> is it possible to specify the video driver for x to use when the live cd boots? to force (for example) to use intel over i810?
[21:33] <popey> (specifically for hardy)
[21:33] <jojo4u> hi! upgrade xubuntu 7.10 to 8.10 using update-manager -d fails on my sources.list. default sources.list works fine. should I file a bug?
[22:17] <fta> crimsun, i've tested your pulseaudio patch, looks fine for everything except wine. I used to run an app with padsp wine foo.exe, now it freeze during startup. and wine foo.exe has no sound at all.
[22:18] <crimsun> fta: you shouldn't be using padsp to wrap wine, since pulseaudio no longer grabs hw:0 but plug:d{mix,snoop}
[22:19] <fta> crimsun, so, what should I use instead ?
[22:19] <crimsun> fta: what results do you get with aoss -- wine foo.exe ?
[22:19] <fta> crimsun, no sound
[22:20] <fta> hm, wait
[22:20] <fta> "--" :)
[22:20] <fta> crimsun, ok, thanks
[22:35] <superm1> crimsun, having pulseaudio grab dmix : doesn't that unintended latency?
[22:37] <superm1> *introduce unintended latency
[22:43] <TheMuso_> crimsun: Thanks will likely see it in my bug mail this morning.
[22:55] <asac> TheMuso_: bug 192888 ... good feedback so far
[22:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192888
[22:56] <beasty_> morning
[22:56] <beasty_> anyone here in .deb building
[23:00] <TheMuso_> asac: Ok will take a closer look when I get to it in my morning email run.
[23:02] <ScottK> beasty_: #ubuntu-motu is a better channel for basic packaging questions.
[23:03] <beasty_> ok thanks
[23:23] <TheMuso_> ...and not so good feedback also.
[23:27] <calc> can someone who has access to look at this bug #218793 tell me if it is marked for OOo?
[23:27] <ubotu> Bug 218793 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/218793 is private
[23:27] <calc> someone claimed this bug was related to OOo but i can't see it
[23:29] <Fujitsu> calc: That's nice and private. Maybe poke a security person.
[23:29] <calc> kees: ping
[23:30] <calc> jdstrand: ping
[23:30] <julie> hi
[23:31] <calc> i normally have access to security marked bugs if they are for OOo
[23:31] <calc> so that bug must be mismarked somehow
[23:31] <calc> or the user typoed
[23:32] <Fujitsu> calc: By default only the reporter and ubuntu-security have access to security bugs...
[23:32] <Fujitsu> Unless you're talking about the OOo project, in which case that might be true.
[23:32] <calc> Fujitsu: hmm maybe i am specifically added on OOo bugs then
[23:32] <calc> Fujitsu: because i can see bugs marked as security in lp for OOo usually
[23:33] <Fujitsu> Right, you are explicitly added by a member of the security team.
[23:34] <calc> Fujitsu: ah ok
[23:37] <calc> i don't have any marked that way currently to check on, i can see private bugs but that is different
[23:48] <julie> the problem is I changed my system lang to persian then tried to change it back to english but now its stuck on persian, kde menu is stuck on persian
[23:49] <kees> calc: that bug isn't security -- I don't have access.
[23:49] <calc> kees: ok