[00:00] <blackshirt> googol30, try to ping inet site
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> ed_moulton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> ed_moulton: if you run:    xev   in a terminal and press things on the joystick and move stuff, do you see events in the terminal?
[00:01] <Googol30> I'm guessing "unknown host google.com" means I screwed something up?
[00:01] <devrand0m> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: probably bad dns, does devrand0m's command reply ok?
[00:01] <devrand0m> cat /etc/resolv.conf ?
[00:01] <Kellur> ActionParsnip: No clue...  but I think I figured out more about this problem. Firefox says the file type is unknown.
[00:01] <blackshirt> googol30, look at /etc/resolv.conf
[00:03] <Googol30> I set that up according to http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html up to the "define new DNS server" part.
[00:04] <almoxarife> Googol30: setting a static ip on the box is ok if the router will accept the number, does it?
[00:05] <Polarisr> I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit and installed compiz settings manager but wobbly windows and desktop cube are not in the settings manager any help or ideas would be a big help
[00:05] <almoxarife> box > router > modem > internet <-- that your setup Googol30...
[00:05] <blackshirt> googol30, if you sit behind router, you should doing nat
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Polarisr: check for extra compiz plugin packages in software centre
[00:06] <Polarisr> ok
[00:08] <Googol30> I don't remember if I had a working connection anytime after editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, but I haven't touched anything after that to my memory.  I have changed some settings on the router in relation to not having the internal IP lease expire, or something along those lines.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: run:   echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf; sudo apt-get update
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: better?
[00:11] <tjbiddle> anyone have experience with setting ulimit within an upstart (/etc/init) script?
[00:21] <chocka> Hi, I have a question regarding partitioning
[00:23] <chocka> Hi All, I have a question regarding partitioning
[00:23] <escott> chocka, just ask
[00:23] <chocka> I am planning to buy a new laptop
[00:24] <chocka> I started using ubuntu 1 yr ago
[00:24] <Guest53318> anbody want to help fix network issue just installed connman and now cant get on netowrk so tried uninstalling but network manager will not shw up
[00:24] <Guest53318> am on the same machine via usb boot
[00:24] <Googol30> Sorry... afk... upon running everything past "run"... there's "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'" among other error messages... I'm pretty sure I don't have internet on my Ubuntu box now.
[00:24] <KI4RO> .
[00:25] <giannaras> kalispera
[00:25] <Googol30> I, however, can connect to the apache server it's running.
[00:25] <giannaras> einai kaneis pou n milaei ellhnika;; as erthei prive sos
[00:25] <escott> Googol30, can you "ping <IP_ADDRESS>"
[00:25] <Guest53318> how to fix network manager...
[00:25] <almoxarife> Googol30: when you went about going static , did you remove 'networkmanager' ?
[00:26] <Googol30> when I ping <IP_ADDRESS> it says "Destination Host Unreachable"
[00:26] <chocka> not only I like it very much, I also use it for my research. I do run calculation based on fortran programming and each run gives data approximately 200 mb. My current partitioning is only 10 GB, so each time I have to move my data from previous runs to other systems to do new calc. I plan to buy a 1 TB hdd laptop. I wish to have 500 GB for Ubuntu. What would be a good scheme for Ubuntu partition with 500 GB
[00:26] <Netbus> Greetings from the internet!
[00:27] <Googol30> And how would I have gone about removing "networkmanager", even accidentally?
[00:27] <almoxarife> Googol30: the static ip you chose, does your router accept it? or can you ping your router?
[00:28] <Googol30> I can ping my router, as well as connect to it on this computer on the apache2 webserver it's running.
[00:29] <Googol30> So apparently I don't have a WAN connection on my Ubuntu box, but I do have a LAN connection.
[00:30] <almoxarife> Googol30: when i set my server to static i purged 'networkmanager' , especially if you are using /etc/network/interfaces with static entries
[00:30] <giannaras> kalispera
[00:30] <giannaras> ellhnika kanenas;;;
[00:30] <giannaras> as erthei prive einai anagkh sos
[00:31] <dfa> hello.... anybody so kind to give this newbie a little help? :)
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: sounds like you need a router reboot
[00:32] <dfa> hi ActionParsnip... could i please bother you for another 5 minutes today as well?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> dfa: ask away
[00:32] <dfa> you helped me last time with alacarte...
[00:32] <dfa> ok
[00:32] <Googol30> I'll try purging networkmanager first, if that doesn't work, I'll restart the Ubuntu box, and if that doesn't work, I'll resort to rebooting the router... first things first though... how do I purge 'networkmanager'?
[00:33] <dfa> so i installed icecat as follows: wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/17.0/icecat-17.0.1-64bit.tar.gz; tar xzf icecat-17.0.1-64bit.tar.gz; sudo mv icecat-17.0.1 /usr/local/lib; sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/icecat-17.0.1/icecat /usr/local/bin/icecat;
[00:33] <almoxarife> Googol30: sudo apt-get purge networkmanager
[00:33] <dfa> since it's not workiing correctly i was wondering: did i do something wrong?
[00:33] <damian_> HI Everybody what about linux mint? I have installed kde now
[00:33] <almoxarife> Googol30: sudo apt-get purge networkmanager* <-- better yet (*)
[00:33] <dfa> i mean it works and everything but kinda slow and some pages don't load well or dont load at all.....
[00:33] <escott> chocka, nothing there to really recommend any particular partitioning scheme over another. you just need bigger parttion
[00:34] <escott> dfa, what is icecat
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !info icecat-
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !info icecat
[00:35] <dfa> i went to the icecat channel but nobody there.... nobody answered me.....
[00:35] <chocka> escott: When alocating bigger partitioning, documentation says things abt separate partitioning for swap /usr /tmp etc. I Just do not have a good handle on these things. So, just wish to know what would be a good scheme for a 500 GB ubuntu paritioning?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> dfa: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:35] <dfa> ok another question: how do i uninstall/remove it?
[00:36] <ikonia> remove the tar file and remove the link
[00:36] <ikonia> (I'm assuming it untared to an isolated directory)
[00:36] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, hey there.  I was over at ed_moulton's house and ended up bringing the joystick here. I'm still on Xubuntu but 12.04 at my house.  What's the best way to make this thing work?
[00:37] <dfa> output is: brigantia
[00:37] <escott> chocka, you dont have to partition for any of those if you dont want to. the standard recommendation is to make a partition for a swap partition that is 2xRAM, but if you have a lot of ram that may not matter. in any case 2xRAM should not be a significant portion of a 1TB disk
[00:37] <ikonia> what ?
[00:38] <starfish> cats =)
[00:38] <Googol30> Purging network manager seems to have no immediately noticeable effect on the connection.
[00:39] <Googol30> I'm restarting the computer.
[00:39] <almoxarife> Googol30: did you stop networkmanager?
[00:39] <ikonia> why would removing network manager change the status of a connection ?
[00:39] <chocka> escott: so, if the RAM is 8 GB, 16 GB for swap and whatever space we want for ubuntu, say 400 GB, would be fine, right? Nothing else to specify, just go ahead with automatic partitioning..
[00:39] <Googol30> No... I guess I should stop it first then... that would make sense.
[00:39] <escott> chocka, sure it can be that simple, or you can make it more complex if you want
[00:40] <dfa> is there a browser other than firefox that supports certificates and saves logins and passwords? (midori doesn't...)
[00:40] <ikonia> dfa: why are you not using firefox
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> dfa: then it's not ubuntu
[00:40] <Cheech> why would you ever need 16gb for swap? curious
[00:40] <ikonia> what's the issue with it
[00:40] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, jtest-gtk...
[00:40] <almoxarife> dfa: chromium/chrome
[00:40] <texta> Ahoy, can someone help me with an annoying pulseaudio issue?
[00:40] <dfa> it's trisquel
[00:40] <ikonia> if your machine is using 16GB of swap, it's already dead
[00:40] <ikonia> dfa: it's what ?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> dfa: ask in #Trisquel
[00:40] <chocka> escott: Thanks. It is going to be a single user, just me. So, what you suggested would be fine. Thanks again.
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: yet another ubuntu spinoff
[00:40] <ikonia> dfa: why are you not using firefox
[00:41] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: fantastic, thank you
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: like we need more
[00:41] <dfa> ActionParsnip you are my favorite..... please let me get help from you.....
[00:41] <ikonia> dfa: sorry, we only deal with ubuntu here
[00:41] <ikonia> ActionParsnip is welcome to help you in private of course
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> dfa: ask in the channel for your distro
[00:42] <dfa> not using firefox cuz i want to be a follower of rms :)
[00:43] <Googol30> How do I stop networkmanager... I feel like doing something like that would be obvious but I haven't done anything correct today.
[00:43] <chocka> ikonia: I am looking for help for parititioning a new laptop with 1 TB hdd for dual boot. I prefer 500 GB for ubuntu
[00:43] <ikonia> chocka: then do that
[00:43] <ikonia> Googol30: why do you want to do that ?
[00:43] <almoxarife> Googol30: pkill NetworkManager
[00:43] <Googol30> ^ he said so
[00:43] <almoxarife> Googol30: yes, caps
[00:43] <ikonia> why ?
[00:44] <ikonia> what do you hope to get by stopping the utility that manages your network interface
[00:44] <Googol30> networking issues
[00:44] <ikonia> thats pretty generic
[00:44] <almoxarife> ikonia: he wants straight static, mainline
[00:44] <ikonia> almoxarife: so ?
[00:44] <ikonia> configure a static IP in network manger
[00:44] <ikonia> manager
[00:45] <chocka> ikonia: you said 16 GB for swap means computer is dead.. ?
[00:45] <ikonia> chocka: if your machine is using 16GB of swap, your machine will be dead, yes
[00:45] <Cheech> lol
[00:45] <almoxarife> ikonia: so/??? his call, not mine, is box, his decision?
[00:45] <ikonia> almoxarife: he said you told him to remove it.....
[00:46] <dfa> AP.... i am in the other room.... i see you entered and left.... i am there now....
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> chocka: 20Gb /, 1.1xRAM for swap, the rest for /home
[00:46] <almoxarife> Googol30: when i set my server to static i purged 'networkmanager' , especially if you are using /etc/network/interfaces with static entries <-- that is what i said! ikonia...
[00:46] <ikonia> sheesh
[00:46] <Cheech> I thought swap was for older machines that starved for ram, i use no swap with no probs
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> chocka: you need it if you want hibernate / suspend
[00:47] <ikonia> swap can help you make use of your ram better too
[00:47] <ikonia> a little bit of swap is good
[00:47] <Cheech> i have 3gig or ram, i guess i dont do much with system though
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> plus you will hardly miss 16Gb
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> chocka: for 3Gb RAM, you'll want 3.3Gb swap :)
[00:48] <chocka> ikonia: I went thru the ubuntu documentation for partitioning, but I couldn't  understand, as it said for large paritioning with ubuntu, swap /etc /usr should all be in separate parition, thats why I raised this question
[00:49] <ikonia> chocka: there is no need for that
[00:49] <ikonia> and it didn't say that
[00:49] <Googol30> Specifically, if you must know, I am attempting to run a dedicated Minecraft server on Ubuntu Server, and I thought that port forwarding was specific to an internal IP.  My router's DHCP settings expire internal IPs every day, thus... at least with my understanding of networking, Ubuntu, and Minecraft, I would give the box a static IP.
[00:49] <ikonia> as /etc CANNOT be a seperate partition
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> chocka: you don't need /usr on it's own partition
[00:49] <ikonia> chocka: I suggest you read again as you've not read it properly
[00:49] <chocka> actionparsnip: ok, if laptop is 8 GB RAM?
[00:49] <Nach0z> um. Googol30 you can set manual IPs via your network config, depending on what service you're using fr DHCP. I usually set chattr +i on my network config file in that case
[00:50] <escott> chocka, in modern systems very few things can be on their own partition, /var, /home, and /boot can be on their own partition, having /usr on its own partition can cause problems
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> chocka: 8.8Gb swap, unless you don't want hibernate / suspend then you can probably get away with 4Gb swap if your use is going to be web browsing and chatting
[00:50] <Nach0z> and the router accepts it, as long as it's outside of what other computers will normally use.
[00:50] <dfa> ActionParsnip should i wait for you in the other room? i was there but not looking at it when you entered.....
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> dfa: i'm a little busy here
[00:51] <almoxarife> Googol30: you can make the router reserve the ip of the what ever to a specific ip, keeping you from having to set static at the box
[00:51] <ikonia> dfa: please take it to a private message
[00:51] <texta> How can I set my input source with pulseaudio
[00:51] <texta> I can select a card to use
[00:51] <texta> but not an actual source. :\
[00:51] <almoxarife> Googol30: mac reserve at the router
[00:51] <Googol30> I had to change my router's settings for DHCP from 192.168.1.[2-254] to an upper bound of 252, and have set the box, along with the router, for static something... at this point I'm not sure what.
[00:52] <chocka> I use for programming and running calculations based on fortran
[00:52] <dfa> AP: will you help me if i wait for you? ikonia:how do i take it to a private msg?
[00:52] <ikonia>  /msg ActionParsnip  hi this is a private message
[00:52] <Nach0z> lol.
[00:53] <dfa> so i just need to put "/msg alias" before the message?
[00:54] <ikonia> dfa: yes, please join the channel #freenode if you need help using IRC
[00:54] <dfa> ok
[00:54] <Googol30> I have set Ubuntu to connect to the router requesting(?) the address <IP_ADDRESS>, and have configured the router to port forward incoming external network traffic for port 25565 to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[00:54] <chocka> actionparsnip: what is the relation between hibernate / suspend and swap? and what actually is the function of swap. I use the system to run complex calculations based on fortran programming
[00:55] <escott> chocka, hibernate=write to disk full power off. suspend = write to ram stop CPU/disk keep ram powered
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> chocka: swap is like the pagefile in windows
[00:56] <Nach0z> except awesomer
[00:56] <Googol30> At this point, all I want to do is get a static internal IP set up, get the USB containing the data for the Minecraft server to mount, and port forward requests for port 25565 to that computer.
[00:57] <Googol30> I think I might have only port forwarded at this point.  Everything else I mentioned in that last sentence there I haven't yet done successfully.
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> Googol30: Do you have a desktop installed or is it a minimal installation?
[00:57] <almoxarife> Googol30: does your router allow you to make 'mac' reservation?
[00:58] <Monotoko> Googol30, usually you can override DHCP and specify which IP you want (as long you know the hostmask, usually <IP_ADDRESS> on home routers) and the gateway (your router IP)
[00:58] <chocka> escott: ActionParsnip: ikonia: Thanks for the time and help.
[00:58] <xwalk> Someone please tell me why this command is not only copying dot files? sudo cp -r /home/username/.* /media/home/user/
[00:58] <Monotoko> you can do that on just one computer and have the rest still use DHCP
[00:59] <xwalk> I swear bash syntax changes when I stop using it for a few weeks.
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> xwalk, because .* tells it only copy files that start with .
[00:59] <Nach0z> lol xwalk
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> What are you trying to copy xwalk?
[01:00] <Googol30> PatrickDickey, it's Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS. almaxarife, I don't recall changing anything with MAC addresses, but I do recall changing something about NAT.  And Monotoko, that's what I'm trying to do now, but I'm not exactly sure how to do so.
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> Googol30: Here's how to configure a static IP. It's for 10.04, but the procedure is the same for 12.04. https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[01:00] <ikonia> no
[01:00] <Monotoko> Googol30: this should help: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[01:00] <ikonia> that's 10.04
[01:01] <xwalk> I'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Copy_.2BAC8-home_to_the_New_Partition, only I'm having to do a few weird things since I don't really fall under the typical scenario case that this tutorial goes through, so I'm trying to copy only the smaller files from my current home dir while keeping the larger files.
[01:01] <almoxarife> Googol30: insure your router is using 'nat' unless you have a specific reason for not using it
[01:01] <Monotoko> ohhh nevermind, use PatrickDickey's link
[01:01] <PatrickDickey> ikonia, it works for 12.04 also. In fact, it's the same page that I use for every version.
[01:01] <ikonia> there is no need for any of that
[01:01] <ikonia> just set the static IP in network manager
[01:01] <Monotoko> ikonia, he doesn't have a GUI
[01:02] <xwalk> I just want to copy some dot files and some dirs containing scripts and small programs, but leave big files like videos and pictures, etc.
[01:02] <ikonia> network manager has a commmand interface too
[01:02] <ikonia> hence why it's installed on his system
[01:02]  * PatrickDickey doesn't worry about it anymore anyhow... My Amahi Server gives me the static IP address.
[01:02] <almoxarife> ikonia: he already did it, he made changes to the router before hand, correct Googol30...?
[01:03] <Monotoko> ikonia, I've never got network manager to work properly without a GUI... I prefer doing it manually, then at least you know you've done it right and don't rely on software
[01:03] <RoySegall> hello
[01:03] <Monotoko> at the best of times it's buggy for me
[01:03] <ikonia> never had a problem with it
[01:03] <RoySegall> Quick question - not technical
[01:03] <xwalk> PatrickDickey: I actually just answered my own question. I'm trying to copy the parent directories with that command as well, so everything in the dir will be copied.
[01:03] <Monotoko> RoySegall, ask away
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: could use wicd instead
[01:03]  * almoxarife does not see a need for 'networkmanager' on a hardwired box without wifi, it just overhead at that point
[01:04] <PatrickDickey> xwalk, then I'd say take the . out. See if that copies everything.
[01:04] <RoySegall> Any one saw the new track pad by logitch for windows 8?
[01:04] <Googol30> I think I have set the router up thus that <IP_ADDRESS>, which is the box's requested ip, is outside of the router's DHCP settings, and that that IP is static.
[01:04] <ikonia> Googol30: why are you even setting a static IP
[01:05] <xibalba> anyone here have issues installing vmware tools on 12.04 LTS?
[01:05] <Monotoko> ikonia, so he can port forward
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: does it have a make and model
[01:05] <Googol30> Port forwarding.
[01:05] <ikonia> Googol30: if you setup port forwarding on most home reouters it reserves the lease anyway
[01:05] <xibalba> im sure someone here runs vmware
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: i avoid logitech, they don't support linux :)
[01:05] <xibalba> tells me fatal error when compiling cannot find smp_lock.h
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> I've ran VMWare, but I typically use Virtualbox.
[01:05] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, 10x
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> !find smp_lock.h
[01:05]  * mattwj2002 waves to 1623 people
[01:05] <ikonia> xibalba: you're missing a header then
[01:06] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip generally i look for trackpad
[01:06] <_andyj_> can you setup full disk enryption after install?
[01:06]  * mattwj2002 eyes the other one
[01:06] <xibalba> ikonia, i had the headers pkg installed
[01:06] <RoySegall> any suggestions?
[01:06] <ikonia> xibalba: it doesn't contain the header it wants then
[01:06] <xibalba> how do i find it ?
[01:06] <ikonia> xibalba: you install it
[01:06] <xibalba> know the pkg name?
[01:06] <RoySegall> apple - not cheap and i don't think that the Gestures will work
[01:06] <ikonia> xibalba: you need to find out what provides it
[01:06] <ikonia> there may be no package
[01:07] <ikonia> it maybe internal to vmware and you've not installed it in the compilers search path
[01:07] <mattwj2002> so why did Ubuntu start including crapware and asking for donations
[01:07] <mattwj2002> ?
[01:07] <ikonia> mattwj2002: want to phrase a normal question please
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: i've used this in the past: keyboard touchpad
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> oop
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: http://www.ebuyer.com/104608-keysonic-2-4ghz-wireless-keyboard-with-integrated-touchpad-usb-kb-ack-540rf
[01:07] <ikonia> mattwj2002: if you expect an answer, best to ask polite normal questions
[01:08] <mattwj2002> why is Ubuntu asking for me to donate when I want to download it.....why are there links like Amazon in an Ubuntu live cd?
[01:08] <ikonia> mattwj2002: they are asking you to donate, as donations fund the project
[01:08] <ikonia> mattwj2002: they have included the amazon lense to try to create a marketing partner with amazon
[01:08] <iceroot> mattwj2002: its just "maybe you wan to but you dont have to"
[01:09] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, Allready have keyboard, just need track pad like apple and the one logitech came out with
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> mattwj2002: you can uninstall the amazon lens stuff, the donations are just a nice way to say thanks, you don't have to donate
[01:09] <NcA> mattwj2002, because, this: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/richard-stallman-calls-ubuntu-spyware-because-it-tracks-searches/
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: how is a trackpad different to a touchpad?
[01:09] <ikonia> and Richard Stallman is a sound person to use as a "judge" of things....not
[01:09] <iceroot> mattwj2002: related to the donate questions
[01:09] <mattwj2002> guys I love ubuntu
[01:09] <mattwj2002> I just get concerned when I see stuff like that
[01:10] <ikonia> mattwj2002: concerned about what ?
[01:10] <RoySegall> They don't, same same diffrent name. buy the problem is the gestures won't work with ubuntu
[01:10] <mattwj2002> well for example I search for usb (for creating a live usb drive) I get ads to buy one
[01:10] <ikonia> mattwj2002: then remove that lense
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: are there bugs reported?
[01:10] <mattwj2002> okay
[01:11] <mattwj2002> sorry not trying to cause problems :)
[01:11] <PatrickDickey> _andyj_: You can only encrypt your /home folder after installing. You'll have to reinstall to encrypt the entire partition, unfortunately.
[01:11] <ikonia> it's not a problem
[01:11] <mattwj2002> I'll probably even donate sometime
[01:11] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, From a quick brief in the web i saw some people couldn't use the guestures
[01:11] <mattwj2002> I just found it odd
[01:11] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, pinch to zoom etc etc
[01:11] <mattwj2002> thanks guys (and gals)!
[01:11] <_andyj_> PatrickDickey: thanks that's what I thought
[01:13] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, Forget what i said - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2006442
[01:13] <lauratika> everything that plays through clementine or rhythmbox is lower volume than what plays on internet... alsamixe setting are max voulme... any ideas?
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> mattwj2002: It's been a source of controversy since they implemented it during the beta. So, you're not the only one that finds it odd. I think in the end, they're doing what they said --trying to make the desktop your one stop for everything, instead of having to open a browser to search online.
[01:14] <marcio> exit
[01:14] <almoxarife> lauratika: how do you mean 'is lower' ?
[01:15] <lauratika> lower than the other audio out put
[01:15] <lauratika> did you read what i wrote?... lower than what plays on internet like youtube, grooveshark etc
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> lauratika: so, if it plays through your browser (or another application), it's louder than if you're playing it through Rhythmbox or Clementine?
[01:16] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, Think i'll buy a one in ebay and try
[01:16] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, 10x!
[01:16] <lauratika> yes
[01:16] <almoxarife> lauratika: i use clementine, i dont get youtube via it though
[01:17] <lauratika> on a borwser i mean
[01:17] <lauratika> not through clementine
[01:17] <Project2501> hi, does resize2fs normally take a long time? (+5mins)
[01:17] <mattwj2002> I bought a hotend for Christmas!
[01:17] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> almoxarife: I think lauratika means that playing mp3's in rhythmbox aren't as loud as say playing a video in a browser.
[01:17] <lauratika> alsamixer setting are set to max volum
[01:17] <lauratika> exactly
[01:17] <almoxarife> lauratika: it does have an amp feature, clementine does
[01:17] <mattwj2002> it is a print head for my printer
[01:17] <lauratika> clementine is my default player
[01:17] <mattwj2002> *3D printer
[01:18] <PatrickDickey> mattwj2002: Nice...
[01:18] <lauratika> almoxarife: under prefreneces???
[01:18] <mattwj2002> yup
[01:18] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:18] <almoxarife> lauratika: tools
[01:19] <xwalk> Going along with this now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Moving_.2BAC8-home_into_.2BAC8-old_home is there a clean way to unmount my /home dir? The command it's saying to use isn't working since /home is mounted, but umount isn't allowing me to unmount either.
[01:19] <roy2098> Hi all - I have an inexpensive Samsung laptop that is almost, almost perfect with 12.0. The deal breaker is the ETPS/2 Elantech touchpad. I've tried many of the remedies none are working. At one point I actually had it working but X config must have clobbered whatever I did and it is gone. Any suggestions? This would get almost 5 starts if not for this issue!
[01:19] <roy2098> sorry, that is 12.10
[01:19] <lauratika> almoxarife:im using version 1.0.1
[01:19] <lauratika> under tools i dont have that option only equalizer
[01:19] <almoxarife> lauratika: 1.1.1 here
[01:20] <lauratika> how can i upgrade???
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: what model samsung?
[01:20] <roy2098> RV515
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: let me search, what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:21] <almoxarife> http://www.clementine-player.org/downloads <-- lauratika...
[01:22] <lauratika> got it!+
[01:22] <zenrg> http://localhost/abc to http://local_dev in ubuntu?
[01:22] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: quantal
[01:22] <lauratika> any other good features?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: have you seen this text: options psmouse force_elantech=1
[01:23] <almoxarife> lauratika: my bad, i meant equalizer, same thing, it will amp, i am not sure what you have as i never had 1.0.1
[01:24] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: not sure, but I can try it - as root (sudo) I presume?
[01:24] <lauratika> ok, dont worry but is there a reason i have more than 100 on the sound settings
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: roy2098 echo "options psmouse force_elantech=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf > /dev/null; sudo modprobe -r psmouse ; sudo modprobe psmouse
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: its text for a config file
[01:24] <lauratika> under the sound settings on the speaker icon
[01:24] <lauratika> some one?
[01:24] <roy2098> ok. let me give it a whirl - back in a moment if i don't crash and burn
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: does the touchpad work at all under Ubuntu?
[01:26] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: very stutteringly badly - not useable - pointer moves very very occasionally
[01:27] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: no response from buttons at all
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: hopefully the option on the module will make it ok
[01:27] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: I know i added a ko at one point but removed it, too many other problems
[01:27] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: sorry i was not more organized to document my actions
[01:28] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: let me try your conf suggestion
[01:29] <roy2098> ActionParsnip:
[01:30] <roy2098> roy@roy-RV415-RV515:~$ sudo modprobe psmouse
[01:30] <roy2098> FATAL: Error inserting psmouse (/lib/modules/3.5.0-19-generic/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko): Invalid argument
[01:32] <tripelb> any word about how good is Ubuntu in nexus?
[01:32] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: I've checked and the conf file is where it should be without typos
[01:32] <Guest85032> ...
[01:32] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: wait, there is a typo...
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: try a reboot
[01:33] <Guest85032> oi
[01:33] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: couple minutes...
[01:35] <Danic> Hi! I just installed git-gui on ubutnu 12.10 through software center. how can I run the software now?
[01:37] <dps> hey all, i'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a big problem i'm having. ubuntu running apache, seems ok, connections are OK, btu the pages are crawling, 4kb assets taking 20-40 seconds to load, pages taking 4-5 minutes. memory, cpu is fine - we were thinking maybe disks?
[01:37] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: I corrected the typo, now the output after the last command is: FATAL: Error inserting psmouse (/lib/modules/3.5.0-19-generic/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko): Invalid argument
[01:37] <cellofellow> I have a USB 2.5" IDE HDD enclosure that when I plug it in and turn it on, nothing happens. Nothing shows in dmesg or lsusb. This is with either of the two har drives I'm tyring to use with it. Any ideas?
[01:38] <lauratika> what podcast search engine you guys rekon?
[01:39] <dps> any v good ubuntu sysadmins want $$$ for screen sharing tech support plz IM me... need to get something sorted fast.
[01:40] <cellofellow> dps: I'm game, PM me with details.
[01:41] <roy_> ActionParsnip: I've rebooted to no avail...
[01:43] <roy_> ActionParsnip: xinput output now does not even show the trackpad; it did previously
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> roy_: if you run:   lsmod      do you see anything relating to mouse?
[01:45] <tryingUbuntu> Can someone help me.. I have  no sound.. Everything is good in settings, mute is not checked and volume is up???????????
[01:46] <roy_> ActionParsnip: negative. But remember, the conf file we created is in place and th laptop was rebooted
[01:46] <roy_> ActionParsnip: btw fyi i am using a wireless usb mouse
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[01:46] <tryingUbuntu> song is playing on grooveshark but no sound in headphone or speakers.. all settings are fine???????
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> roy_: the conf file won't stop it loading, just adds an option to the module that drives it
[01:47] <roy_> ActionParsnip: why xinput not showing the elantech; previously it did?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> roy_: thats the force, try deleting the conf file and reboot
[01:48] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip   says missing url
[01:49] <roy_> Action: ok
[01:50] <Guest55891> how to login to filesystem installed on hdd from usb live session and install network manager
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: did you click the link in the command, or did you run it all in a terminal?
[01:50] <Guest17440> When you recover the image, are you left with both files adding up to twice the original, or does one replace the other?
[01:51] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  Both.. I dont understand the link
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[01:51] <Guest55891> network manager got messed up by installing conmann indicator and now the only inet access is through usb live session
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: copy the text I gave as ONE command, paste it to a terminal and hit ENTER
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: you don't have to 'understand' anything, its a bash script
[01:52] <Guest55891> ?
[01:53] <blackshirt> hello all
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[01:53] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip   Not working out.. getting  server not found
[01:53] <Guest17440> When you recover an image, does it leave both files, adding up to twice the size taken up on you HDD as the original? Or does one replace the other?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: is thet when you are running the wget section?
[01:54] <Guest55891> is reinstalling the grub realy relevant to fixing network manager?
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: read between the lines!!
[01:54] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip   I copie and paste into another web window and get that error
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: the guide is not 100% exactly what you want, but the commands will get you chrooted into the installed OS from the LiveCD which you DO want...
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: think about it
[01:55] <Guest55891> ok
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: so it's useful, isn't it
[01:56] <Guest17440> When an image.dd is being recovered, does it leave both files, adding up to twice the space taken up on a HDD as the original? Or does one replace the other?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: if you learn how to read more into what is given when you read something, you'll have an easier ife
[01:57] <guang_> how to simulate a usb and then write some code to it first sec?
[01:57] <Googol30> I don't feel like messing with the network anymore... I would like to copy some files from Windows to Ubuntu now... and I haven't a clue how to find the flash drive.
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: try: cd $HOME; wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[01:57] <Nach0z> Googol30: sudo apt-get install usbmount, it'll mount the flashdrive automatically somewhere under /mnt
[01:57] <roy_> ActionParsnip: I'm back after some boot issues
[01:58] <roy_> ActionParsnip: that's another little annoyance - after the install i had to actually run boot-repair to fix grub issues
[01:58] <roy_> ActionParsnip: so now it boots almost every time - but not quite 100% of the time
[01:58] <Googol30> Upon trying "mount /dev/sda5 /mnt" Ubuntu complains stating "unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'"
[01:59] <roy_> ActionParsnip: I can live with this and some other annoyances, but the touchpad is really frustrating
[01:59] <Guest17440> Can you only recover data on to another drive?
[01:59] <Guest17440> Or can you use photorec to mount an image and recover the data using one HDD?
[01:59] <roy_> ActionParsnip: and it's a real shame because I'm really enamored with Ubuntu
[01:59] <roy_> ActionParsnip: use it flawlessly on a desktop
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: yes, you'll need a writable partition to spit the data to
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> roy_: i suggest you report a bug
[02:00] <escott> Googol30, sda5 is an lvm container
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> roy_: could try Fn+F10 twice (with a gap in between)
[02:00] <roy_> ActionParsnip: yep, my thinking exactly. Thanks very much for all your help
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> roy_: also try disabling the tap to click feature in the OS
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> roy_: I try#
[02:01] <roy_> ActionParsnip: hmmmm
[02:01] <Googol30> What else can I attempt to mount?  If I unplug then plug the flash drive back in, will Ubuntu recognize its existence somewhere?
[02:01] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  OK, I did it in terminal.. got some command not found   syntax error near unexpected token and resolving
[02:02] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  should I try sound again now?
[02:02] <escott> Googol30, http://superuser.com/questions/116617/how-to-mount-lvm-volume
[02:02] <Guest17440> ActionParsnip: If I have a 500 gig image, do I need a TB to extract it if I'm using the same drive?
[02:03] <escott> Guest17440, you can pipe it to gzip and compress it as you write
[02:04] <escott> Guest17440, but why would you extract a disk image to the same device? what reason do you have for doing the extracT?
[02:04] <Guest17440> escott: is there risk of further corrupting the data doing that?
[02:04] <Guest17440> Escott: I want to use photorec to recover my files
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: 500Gb will be enough, anything more is a bonus
[02:05] <escott> Guest17440, why are your files corrupted to begin with
[02:05] <roy_> Action: thanks again cu around!
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: if the data area has been overwritten then the data is lost
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: why not just use your backup
[02:05] <Guest17440> escott: a BSOD
[02:06] <escott> Guest17440, so why not run photorec on the raw device
[02:07] <Guest17440> escot: because I have a feeling that i corrupted a lot of data through working on trying to fix the boot process
[02:07] <Guest17440> and I can restore an image to before I did that
[02:08] <Guest17440> and use photorec on that
[02:08] <bitcycle> Hey all.  How to install postgresql 8.4 onto ubuntu 12.10?  apt is saying its not available with the default software sources.
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: use your backups....
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> !info postgresql
[02:08] <Guest17440> ActionParsnip: The only image I have is from a corrupted drive
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: i suggest you review your backup regime
[02:09] <bitcycle> ActionParsnip: I don't understand.  That's 9.1.  How to get 8.4?
[02:09] <Guest17440> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I know this now. I just kept putting it off because I didn't had a HDD to back it up when it was healthy
[02:10] <Guest17440> have*
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> bitcycle: if you can find a source then you can use it
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | bitcycle may help
[02:11] <gabrieluk> hi, is this recommended? ppa:dhuggins/cmusphinx
[02:11] <Googol30> Are there any ways to format a flash drive in a way that both Linux and Windows can read and write to it without issues or needing to install anything?
[02:11] <gabrieluk> lucid 10.04
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: if you want what is on the ppa, why not
[02:12] <gabrieluk> i was just not sure if it was the correct ppa. sometimes ppa owners change, etc
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: technically those packages ar euno0fficial so cannot be vouched for but most people are nice
[02:13] <escott> Googol30, ntfs or fat
[02:14] <Googol30> So FAT32 won't work, it must be simple FAT?
[02:14] <escott> Googol30, by fat i mean fat32 but not exfat
[02:14] <gabrieluk> " most people are nice", lol
[02:15] <paris> The voice over gamil is not working in Linux, but in Windows does. What I ought to do?
[02:15]  * gabrieluk feels like trolling
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: well yeah, there is no ruling in a PPA so users could add any kind of nasty they want
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: only the packages from the official repos are definately clean
[02:16] <gabrieluk> copy that, but they are outdated >.<
[02:16] <ReAzem> Any love for debian? I just took my ubuntu samba conf and moved it to a debian machine, I get acces denied.
[02:16] <almoxarife> now that i have 'recoll' setup to look for abstract terms within chosen dir/folders i am wondering what dirs to point at, i have the obvious, /etc/ /usr/share/doc/ /home/.config , any other dirs with conf or txt file configs that you might recommend?
[02:16] <gabrieluk> debisn, lol
[02:16] <Guest17440> Why is it when I highlighted the files on my old drive, ubuntu says there is only something like 14.9 gigs but when I copy those over it actually ends up being 145 gigs?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: ubuntu is not a rolling release, so packages will be outdated.
[02:16] <shirlena> hi
[02:16] <Googol30> Since FAT32 isn't working, I'll reformat it in FAT and see if that will work.  If that doesn't work yet again, I'll attempt a network based file transfer.  And if I can't figure anything out after that... I give up.
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: if the newer version of a package adds a minor change compared to one which is a high security risk. Which do you think will get more attention?
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: so the package versions where the changes and gains are minimal will be left in favour of more impacting changes
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: think about it...
[02:18] <meowagism> hello great dudes
[02:18] <mens> It is possible to open http stream in "XBMC Eden"?
[02:18] <meowagism> can install on btrfs with ubunto?
[02:18] <Guest17440> Why is it, when I highlighted the files on my old drive, ubuntu says there is something like 14.9 gigs, but when I copy it over to my new drive, it ends up actually being 145 gigs?
[02:19] <mens> If possible ... how?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> meowagism: sure, just use the something else option at install and btrfs is an option as well as other file systems
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mens: i'd ask in the xbmc channel too
[02:20] <dr_willis> meowagism: i belive so. but btrfs is not considered stable by many
[02:20] <ricardoramirez> #wikipedia-es
[02:20] <maylow> good evening :)
[02:20] <Guest17440> Why is it, when I highlight files on my old drive, ubuntu says there is something like 14.9 gigs, but when I copy those same files and folders, it actually ends up being around 145 gigs
[02:20] <meowagism> i need compressing the entire thing
[02:21] <meowagism> i have ssd with small diks
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> HA!
[02:21] <maylow> escott: hi :
[02:21] <maylow> :)
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> meowagism: i'd install ubuntu minimal, then install something like fluxbox and slim, the install will be about 1.2Gb installed
[02:22] <escott> Guest17440, sparse files?
[02:22] <meowagism> thank you vely much
[02:22] <gabrieluk> i have a usb headset/mic. when i connect it, i have to go to system->preferences-->sound, and set it everytime i turn the computer on. is there a way to set the usb headset as default for sound?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> meowagism: tinycore (not ubuntu) is a 12mb ISO, very small install footprint :)
[02:24] <anonjr> Hello. :) First day with ubuntu now. Any advices or suggested software/theme/plugin!? :)
[02:24] <dr_willis> !manual
[02:25] <K1rk> I am trying to clean up after this largely ignored bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/990315  Without compiling my own binaries.  I am doing this on a large scale deployment, and I don't want to deal with an update wiping out my custom binaries.
[02:25] <Guest55891> can't get that vid to play no flash any help on installing network manager to hdd install from usb live session
[02:25] <K1rk> I thought maybe a good solution would be a custom button on the GTK greeter to replace their broken cancel button. Maybe one which runs a custom bash script to kill and restart lightdm.
[02:25] <K1rk> Any idea how I can accomplish this?
[02:26] <maylow> escott: i've got lvm over mdadm
[02:26] <maylow> escott: looks pretty nice
[02:26] <escott> maylow, excellent
[02:26] <maylow> escott: i greatly appreciate your advice
[02:26] <escott> maylow, no problem
[02:26] <maylow> :)
[02:27] <anonjr> Edit .exe in ubuntu?
[02:27] <K1rk> anonjr, Ubuntu doesn't have exe files.  It has binaries.
[02:27] <dr_willis> hmm. it says fix released. that means there should be an update to fix it soon
[02:27] <K1rk> dr_willis, yeah but that looks like it was months ago.
[02:27] <K1rk> dr_willis, I want to deploy my 12.04 lab image to our computers over Christmas break.
[02:28] <K1rk> dr_willis, you can see how with a room full of students, this might be a problem. (aka  "vandalizing" computers to waste time, getting them stuck in login loops)
[02:28] <Guest55891> tried installing network manager from deb off flash but its output it that the deb files are not in software sources
[02:28] <K1rk> It seems like this is a really dumb problem and a really easy fix... and lazy repo maintainer
[02:28] <meowagism> i installed those options
[02:28] <meowagism> on btrfs?
[02:28] <dr_willis> i use gdm. ;-)
[02:28] <gabrieluk> how do i remove a ppa repository?
[02:28] <meowagism> defaults,subvol=@home,compress=lzo,inode_cache,ssd 0       2
[02:29] <K1rk> meowagism, nice fstab stuff....
[02:29] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge | gabrieluk
[02:29] <K1rk> meowagism, I'm not familiar with the "ssd" option.
[02:29] <meowagism> ssd is solid state drives write in a chunk instead of little bananaistics
[02:30] <gabrieluk> ok
[02:30] <dr_willis> o_0
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: the way I do it is to run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install network-manager    in the liveCD
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: then copy the deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives to the internal HDD, then reboot to the installed OS and install the deb files
[02:31] <Guest55891> yes but that requires mounting into the hdd
[02:31] <Guest55891> o ok'
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: yes, you'd mount the drive to then hold the debs so they are not lost on reboot
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: you then have the files you need to install the app
[02:34] <yescalona> ubuntu please
[02:34] <dr_willis> yescalona:  what?
[02:34] <JohnnyL> Did anyone see the article about Ubuntu concerning RMS on slashdot?
[02:34] <Flannel> JohnnyL: #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  Thanks!
[02:34] <Guest55891> having trouble mounting hdd with that tutorial cannot play flash in hdd
[02:35] <Guest55891> live usb session*
[02:35] <puff> JohnnyL: Nope, got a URL?
[02:35] <yescalona> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/07/stallman_on_ubuntu_spyware/
[02:35] <gabrieluk> ActionParsnip, i cannot find cmu sphinx on the official repo. is that correct?
[02:35] <Flannel> yescalona: take it to #ubuntu-discuss, thanks.
[02:35] <JohnnyL> puff: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu
[02:36] <yescalona> a la mierda ubuntu
[02:38] <ReAzem> Just made a test share accepting guests, it worked. So this means that my problem is security = user. It keeps denying me acces, for some reason.
[02:38] <mac-10> anyone is interested in domains 4 free ?
[02:38] <mengazo> yescalona: Amen
[02:38] <topper4125> Maybe RMS needs to learn to follow his own advice before he goes off on other people... some of his software source has binary blobs... something he *claims* to be against.
[02:38] <gabrieluk> omg, the link is shocking
[02:38] <puff> Nobody ever accused RMS of being subtle.
[02:38] <puff> the original article, btw: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[02:38] <puff> Well, blog post.
[02:39] <Flannel> guys, this is a support channel.  Take it elsewhere, thanks.
[02:39] <Googol30> Well... good ol' FAT works just fine... Java is having a fit though.
[02:39] <dr_willis> ReAzem: you gave the users a samba password with  smbpasswd?
[02:39] <ReAzem> dr_willis, never did that.
[02:39] <puff> Flannel: Good point.
[02:39] <Guest55891> should  mount /dev/sda3 "root partition" from live session followed by apt-get updat; apt-get install network-manager add network manager to hdd
[02:40] <Guest55891> still have to install deb files?
[02:40] <dr_willis> ReAzem:   sudo smbpasswd -a  username
[02:40] <ReAzem> dr_willis, I toughg sambe used system usernames?
[02:40] <ReAzem> *samba
[02:40] <ReAzem> and passwords*
[02:40] <dr_willis> ReAzem:  but not passwords
[02:40] <escott> dr_willis, curious what is the point of using sudo with that?
[02:40] <ReAzem> dr_willis, Wht did it work before then?
[02:40] <dr_willis> theres a way to sync them
[02:40] <ReAzem> *why - I need to learn to type
[02:41] <dr_willis> escott:  not all users have samba access. i belive
[02:41] <Googol30> Anyone familiar with Java?  Whenever I try to run the Minecraft server, it complains with as much text as it possibly can.
[02:41] <gpix13> Googol30: you using the proprietary jre or the openjre?
[02:41] <ReAzem> dr_willis, Okay so how do I pay you a beer?
[02:42] <escott> dr_willis, its in the manpage. i guess it adds entries and works when the daemon isnt running
[02:42] <dr_willis> ReAzem:  donate to the bell ringers at the mall. ;-)
[02:42] <Googol30> Sun's JRE I'm guessing... I followed some guide on the internet somewhere... lemme find it.
[02:42] <gpix13> java -version
[02:42] <gpix13> run that
[02:42] <dr_willis> im old skool amd sefl taught on sambe. i just remember what i always do. ;-)
[02:43] <ReAzem> dr_willis, I promise I will. Now, can you tell me why I never had to do that before? I really liked it before haha
[02:43] <researcher123> When I try to open  www.godaddy.com I get a message "waiting for img3.wsimg.com " and the page never opens. Is somebody happy to help ? PLEASE
[02:44] <Argure_> I can't for the life of me figure out why my pubkey authentication isn't working. :(
[02:44] <topper4125> http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/say-what-gnu-emacs-violates-gpl
[02:44] <Argure_> drwx------ 2 argure argure 4096 Dec  8 03:28 .ssh
[02:44] <Argure_> -rw------- 1 argure argure  757 Dec  8 03:28 authorized_keys
[02:45] <Googol30> I did "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" to install java... but I followed the guide on http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
[02:45] <escott> Argure_, why is auth_keys outside of .ssh
[02:45] <Argure_> it's not.
[02:45] <Argure_> :P
[02:45] <escott> Argure_, then why is is listed after .ssh?
[02:45] <Argure_> sshd_config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418074/
[02:45] <gpix13> Googol30: what is the error you are getting?
[02:45] <Argure_> because I cd'ed into ~/.ssh before running ls -la ;)
[02:46] <escott> Argure_, ok.. then why is there a .ssh inside .ssh
[02:46] <Argure_> I think I confused you :P
[02:46] <Argure_> argure@geonosis:~/.ssh$ ls -la
[02:46] <Argure_> -rw------- 1 argure argure  757 Dec  8 03:28 authorized_keys
[02:46] <escott> !paste | Argure_
[02:47] <escott> Argure_, i get it you are trying to say .ssh is 700 and auth_keys is 600 but its not working... you could have just said that
[02:47] <Argure_> afaik with the permission set on ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys it *should* be working fine
[02:47] <Guest17440> Why is it, when I highlight files on my old drive, ubuntu says there is something like 14.9 gigs, but when I copy those same files and folders, it actually ends up being around 145 gigs?
[02:47] <Argure_> pretty much ^^
[02:47] <escott> Argure_, what do you see when you try to ssh -vv user@host
[02:47] <Googol30> Whenever I try to do "java -Xms1G -Xmx3G -jar craftbukkit-1.4.5-R0.2.jar", Java spams me with a million messages all saying some different "at net.minecraft.server.(...)" message
[02:48] <escott> Guest17440, sparse files or virtual filesystems
[02:48] <gpix13> Googol30: hmm
[02:48] <dr_willis> Guest17440: copying to where. and how...
[02:48] <Guest17440> Escott:I don't understand, could you elaborate?
[02:48] <Argure_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418076/
[02:49] <riex> Hello guys, I've just added one more IP to my debian server. But when that's done, and I'm trying to ping it from my home connection, it dosen't reply back. But if i ping the IP-address on the server it replys. What could the error be? :-|
[02:49] <Googol30> gpix13: Is it that my network connection might not be what it expects?
[02:49] <riex> someone knows if there is an error log or something?
[02:49] <Guest17440> dr_willis: onto my new drive, and by using copy and paste
[02:49] <escott> Guest17440, sparse files have lots of zeros but the zeros aren't stored. virtual filesystems take up no on disk space but if you dont use the correct options in your copy you might copy them by accident. ie we need more details on exactly how you are copying
[02:49] <gpix13> Googol30: no I doubt it, paste what you can into pste.ubuntu.com and paste the link here so i can see
[02:50] <dr_willis> Guest17440: what fs is the drive?
[02:50] <Guest17440> dr_willis: sorry what? I'm still a noob
[02:50] <escott> Argure_, it sends both /Users/patrickgodschalk/.ssh/id_rsa and dsa but neither is a match. what are the contents of auth_keys
[02:51] <Argure_> both are private keys, escott
[02:51] <mengazo> Is there anyway to sort files on Ubuntu by creation date, even with another filesystem, such as NTFS and FAT32. I use it for organizational purposes on Windows and OS X and have yet to find such a way to do that. I simply can't use Linux without that ability
[02:51] <escott> Argure_, take that back it doesnt send dsa cause that doesn't exist
[02:51] <Argure_> I have tried indicating id_rsa.pub with the -i flag but to no avail
[02:51] <escott> Argure_, auth_keys should be public keys and safe to share
[02:51] <Argure_> oh, authorized_keys
[02:51] <Googol30> gpix: Any way to make the error messages all write to a file... I'm thinking something with grep but I'm not sure how to do so.
[02:52] <Googol30> gpix13... forgot the numbers... sorry.
[02:52] <escott> Googol30, command 2>&1 >output.txt
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> 2>&1
[02:52] <gpix13> Googol30: do the command for starting the server and append it with ">> file.txt"
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> meh
[02:52] <Argure_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418079/
[02:52] <gpix13> or something to that extent
[02:52] <Guest17440> escott: I am copying because I'm going to delete the files I copied from the original old HDD and recover data from an image onto the old HDD
[02:52] <escott> Argure_, that looks ok.
[02:53] <escott> Guest17440, don't really care about why. but how. using cp, rsync? with what flags etc?
[02:53] <julie101010> I have a NFS mount in my fstab and it causes my system to lock up infinitely on boot when the server is down, any ideas?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: add the option:  noauto   then it won't attempt to be mounted at boot
[02:54] <williamherry> I accedently deleted a file, I know it belong to fontconfig-config, how do I get it back
[02:54] <Argure_> escott: that's what I thought, I still for the life of me can't figure out why the server is denying pubkey authentication
[02:54] <williamherry> apt-get has no reinstall command
[02:54] <mengazo> I guess Linux is inadequate for my needs
[02:54] <dr_willis> julie101010:  try the noauto option. tgen mount it after tge system is up
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> williamherry: yes it does
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> williamherry: install --reinstall
[02:54] <Argure_> escott: especially since i can authenticate with that key towards other servers
[02:54] <williamherry> SolarisBoy: thanks
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> yw
[02:54] <julie101010> ActionParsnip, dr_willis: is there an in between where it would attempt to mount it
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: you can then add:  sudo mount /mount/point &     in /etc/rc.local    above the 'exit 0' line to mount it, note the ampersand to background the command so the boot can complete
[02:55] <escott> Argure_, the only things you can check are the logs on the server
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: ^
[02:55] <julie101010> ActionParsnip, very good idea, tyvm
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: np
[02:55] <dr_willis> julie101010:  i think there is. but ive not used nfs in ages
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> or automount
[02:55] <Guest17440> escott: how? using ubuntu 12.10. Highlighting the files that I first see when opening the disk, right clicking, selecting copy, going to an ubuntu folder on the desktop and pasting inside there.
[02:56] <Googol30> gpix13: Upon attempt to run the server with " >> errorlog.txt" appended to the end... it says "-bash: errorlog.txt: Permission denied"
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> Googol30: do you have permissions to where you are writing?
[02:56] <gpix13> Googol30: what directory are you running it in?
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> Googol30: you can redirect to /tmp if not
[02:56] <gpix13> ^^
[02:56] <Googol30> It's in /tmp... same message
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> ouch
[02:56] <gpix13> prefix sudo?
[02:56] <Thete> Since google is screwing over Google Apps, anyone know of a decent mail hosting service?
[02:57] <Argure_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418083/
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> google apps work fine
[02:57] <Thete> Cause I'm not paying $5 per user per month
[02:57] <Thete> SolarisBoy: You obviously haven't heard the news yet
[02:57] <Guest17440> escott: I'm doing it completely wrong aren't I?
[02:57] <Googol30> Same thing... even with sudo prefixed.
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> Thete: could run your own
[02:57] <Thete> Yeah, I suck at linux mail servers
[02:57] <gpix13> Googol30: hm, not much I can do without the error messages.
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> whats the news? Thete ?
[02:58] <Thete> SolarisBoy: It costs money now
[02:58] <escott> Argure_, you use ecryptfs thats why
[02:58] <Googol30> The flash drive that I am attempting to write to is FAT...
[02:58] <Thete> SolarisBoy: $5 per user per month
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> Thete: what costs money?
[02:58] <escott> Argure_, ~/.ssh is not decrypted until after login. there is no auth_keys to read
[02:58] <gpix13> Googol30: don't write to the flash drive
[02:58] <Thete> SolarisBoy: Google Apps for domains
[02:58] <gpix13> Googol30: write to your hard drive
[02:58] <gpix13> or something else
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> Thete: so what are they doing with the free accounts?
[02:58] <Thete> 30 days left apparently
[02:58] <Argure_> that... would make sense
[02:58] <Thete> SolarisBoy: Log into your panel, you'll see it
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> one second
[02:59] <escott> Guest17440, hard to say since its the gui. evidently the gui does something wrong either vfs or sparse files, what i dont know
[02:59] <Thete> SolarisBoy: 30 day trial, upgrade now
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> haha
[02:59] <Thete> They sent out mass email about 30 min ago about it
[02:59] <escott> Argure_, easiest workaround is to put auth_keys outside of $HOME
[03:00] <dr_willis> oh the humanity!
[03:00] <SolarisBoy> Thete: i see it now
[03:01] <Argure_> escott: I'm unmounting and removing $PRIVATE for that user :)
[03:01] <user20393> Dillo browser won't show images on google image search. How to fix?  Is there a setting in dillorc I need to change?
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> Thete: it says Free accounts that exist wont be affected no?
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> 'Because you're already a customer, this change has no impact on your service, and you can continue to use Google Apps for free.'
[03:01] <Thete> The email says that, but I can't figure out if that's true or not considering what it says in the control panel
[03:01] <Argure_> thanks. :)
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> hrm
[03:02] <MechanisM> when I'm running "update-manager -d" it shows new version, I"m clicking upgrade and it's closed. when trying do-release-upgrade it's showing me "No new release found" what is wrong? I have enabled non lts upgrades
[03:02] <Thete> I have a big mess on my hands if I loose access after 30 days
[03:02] <Googol30> Oh... you said /tmp... I was typing /mnt...
[03:02] <Googol30> My bad.
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> not you only...
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> Googol30: nice
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: what release are you on?
[03:02] <Googol30> Now when I'm not in the directory... it works...
[03:02] <MechanisM> I'm on 12.10
[03:02] <MechanisM> wanna upgrade to 13.04
[03:03] <SolarisBoy> Googol30: being in mnt needs sudo permissions generally to write under there
[03:03] <dr_willis> MechanisM:  why?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: then you will need to use the -d option to get the development release, raring. 12.10 is the latest stable release
[03:04] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip: Look at my first msg
[03:04] <Flannel> MechanisM: You want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: ^
[03:04] <MechanisM> I'm already asked
[03:04] <Googol30> Now that it looks like it works... I'll test it... and if I can connect using my external IP, that's what I wanted for the last 7 hours.
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: http://askubuntu.com/questions/222296/cant-upgrade-to-ubuntu-13-04-development-release
[03:08] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip I can use google =) I'm answered there already: For me not worked "do-release-upgrade" and not worked "update-manager -d" but this works: "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[03:09] <DrManhattan> how do I upgrade from the version of virtualbox installed via apt-get to the latest version on the oracle site? pci passthrough isn't working for me thus far and I would like to try something a bit newer
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: I didn't use google ;)
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: yes, the command is an admin task so needs 'sudo'
[03:10] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip case is not in sudo part
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: its a separate app, you will need to uninstall the virtual box you have, then add the vbox ppa, then install vbox 4.1
[03:11] <DrManhattan> oh, how utterly weak.
[03:11] <researcher123> I   get a message "waiting for img3.wsimg.com " and the page never opens for a certain site.While all other open promptly.Any help?
[03:11] <MechanisM> "do-release-upgrade" vs  "update-manager -d" vs "do-release-upgrade -d"
[03:11] <DrManhattan> all this trouble for pci passthrough
[03:11] <DrManhattan> if I could find my easycap002 I wouldn't have this problem
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: why, you are only replaceing the app. How is that 'weak'?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[03:15] <needhelp1> I need help, ive been battling with an issue with just copying files for months on ubuntu 12.10, i have updated and re-installed twice and still experience teh same issue. I plug in the camera via usb and the camera mounts, i can see the images load, but when i try to copy the image files from the camera to anywhere, nothing happens, the progress window loads showing something like "File operations" copying filie 1 of 20 to "folder nam
[03:15] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, one sec
[03:15] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, it says precise
[03:16] <nitrohax> did they finally fix the compiz fusion so you can load all the effects and not crash the system/
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: ho is removing one package, then replacing it with another 'weak'?
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> oo
[03:17] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, I don't think it's "just a package" when you install it from the vbox site
[03:17] <DrManhattan> oo nice, thank you
[03:17] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip>  depends on the package i guess. like gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vbox.list
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:18] <nitrohax> someone having problems with the vbox thru ubuntu download center/
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: then uninstall the vbox packages you have and run:  sudo apt-get update; VirtualBox-4.2
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: you still haven't answered my question
[03:18] <DrManhattan> copying
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: you still haven't answered my question
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: remove the old vbox first
[03:19] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, thats a lot of work just to uninstall and install one package, thats what I thought was weak
[03:19] <nitrohax> vbox really only works with all the functions when directly d/l thru the site it's self. the repos hasn't been updated in the d/l center
[03:19] <DrManhattan> it aint exactly apt-get remove and apt-get install
[03:20] <nitrohax> apt-get purge is what you are looking for
[03:20] <escott> needhelp1, what program are you using to copy the pictures
[03:20] <needhelp1> escott: natalus
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: its near zero effort though, its nearly apt-get remove apt-get install. You just add an extra packages source
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: so, not weak at all
[03:21] <needhelp1> escott: nautilus
[03:21] <DrManhattan> k
[03:21] <escott> needhelp1, most cameras are not usb mass-storage you might try one of the photo managing applications like gphoto or the like
[03:21] <DrManhattan> if I can get this pci passthrough working, I'll be a happy camper
[03:21] <DrManhattan> or if I manage to find my easycap
[03:22] <needhelp1> escott: shotwell ok?
[03:22] <escott> needhelp1, sure
[03:22] <escott> DrManhattan, does your motherboard support pci passthrough
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: if you wanted really annoying then try the same in gentoo, takes forever and a day
[03:22] <DrManhattan> escott, maybe
[03:23] <escott> DrManhattan, iommu does require northbridge support so check online and at the mfg website
[03:23] <needhelp1> escott: getting errors  "unable to mount camera, try to mount from the file manager" , and then "volume is busy  EOG /run/user/who/gvfs/gph/....100canon etc
[03:23] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, I love watching that code fly by, but what a total PITA gentoo is to set up initially
[03:23] <escott> needhelp1, i guess nautilus has mounted it. you might eject it in nautilus and then try to reopen it in shotwell
[03:24] <escott> needhelp1, basically trying to get you closer to libgphoto2
[03:24] <needhelp1> escott: just had a crash
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: loads, or telling it to rebuild world :)  see you in a week
[03:25]  * DrManhattan bursts into tears with gentoo ptsd
[03:25] <nitrohax> DrManhattan> you new to linux/ubuntu?
[03:25] <DrManhattan> no
[03:25] <dr_willis_> !info gentoo
[03:26] <needhelp1> escott: unplugged and plugged back in, shotwell is importing, seems to be working so far.
[03:26] <needhelp1> why cant i do this via nautilus?
[03:26] <nitrohax> you coming from straight deb?
[03:26] <DrManhattan> No
[03:26] <dr_willis_> now everyone is confused. ;-)   i  like that gentoo filemanager
[03:26] <DrManhattan> Not even new to ubuntu
[03:27] <escott> needhelp1, its just another layer of abstraction. cameras in ptp mode are not like normal disks so when naut works with them it has to emulate certain disk functions that ptp does not support
[03:27] <escott> needhelp1, shotwell uses libgphoto2 directly so it talks ptp without the emulation of gvfs
[03:27] <needhelp1> escott: is there anythign I can do to help "fix" this, bug report, vote or something
[03:28] <escott> needhelp1, if you are using the most recent version and want to try to isolate where the bug is in gvfs im sure a bug report would be helpful. a bug report for a X-months old version of gvfs that says it doesnt work for camera X is just going to get ignored
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis_: oh wow, so you can run  gentoo in gentoo :)
[03:29] <dr_willis_> ActionParsnip:  yep. ;-)
[03:29] <needhelp1> escott: just to make sure im following correctly, your saying gvfs stinks, and a bug report probably wont help right?
[03:29] <dr_willis_> gentootwo
[03:30] <escott> needhelp1, no gvfs seems to be pretty good (given what it does). but it is a bug in the gvfs/libgphoto2 interaction with your specific camera
[03:30] <dr_willis_> gvfs works well.. most of the tine.
[03:30] <escott> needhelp1, and that making a good bug report that is actually useful rather than "it doesn't work for me" is a fair bit of work
[03:31] <nitrohax> DrManhattan> you just trying to get a good working copy of vbox working then?
[03:31] <escott> needhelp1, if you have the skill, time and desire to do it by all means please go ahead
[03:31] <nitrohax> escott> what do you need help with?
[03:31] <needhelp1> escott: its weird because it worked in 12.04
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis_: gentoo^2
[03:31] <escott> needhelp1, well thats helpful. means it is a regression. should be easier to figure out what went wrong
[03:33] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> did they fix the compiz fusion where you can add all the effects and not crash/
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: no idea, i don't use it
[03:34] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> ok. just needed to see some flames and paper planes on the desktop.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: what for?
[03:34] <nitrohax> last time i tried it it killed ubuntu and couldn't recover anything
[03:35] <needhelp1> as far as file sysems go, is ext4 still recommended generally speaking
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: yes, ext4 is pretty decent now
[03:36] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> You know, woblly windows are cool and all. but sometimes you need to show off that extra linux flare of flaming windows, and wrap maximize, and airplane minimize.
[03:36] <nitrohax> mostly to wow the window idiots at work
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: i think all that stuff is worthless and slows productivity
[03:37] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> it's work, not like i'm doing anything there anyways, plus, i've got the GPU to handle it all
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: i'd rather that when i click minimize of close, the app instantly vanishes and i can move on rather than fill my screen with some animation and get in the way
[03:38] <atlus> would anyone mind helping me patch a version of wine ?
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> !patch
[03:39] <nitrohax> well i just make the animations really short. plus, those windows people, they just swoon over the effects they can't have. makes me seem more in demand to say.
[03:40] <Johnn> This is my first time in a IRC chat. I am here because I need help. Windows 7 has done some sort of automatic update and I can't acess Ubuntu. I'm a complete novice to Ubuntu but in my opinion it is much better then Windows. I even donated some :). I have created a live usb but repair disk did not work, Can anyone help or point me to the apropriate place?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: i've never tried to wow people with effects
[03:40] <atlus> it may help to be able to have first hand guidance
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: try being 32 and having all that going on on the desktop.  I like ubuntu for the community, but deb for the funtionality
[03:41] <Xgates> I know Stallman is very extreme, but, hmm this doesn't sound good...
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: hehe half :)
[03:42] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> just the xscreensaver alone draws more attention then anything. and all i do is recover data from "broken" hard drives
[03:43] <Chintan> Hello guys
[03:43] <Chintan> good morning
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: i've sold PCs in the past using sach's marine screensaver
[03:43] <Johnn> So can anyone in this chatroom help me with a problem I am having with Ubuntu?
[03:44] <Chintan> I have one pc in USA with ubuntu installed. I want to transfer files from my ubuntu system.
[03:44] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> my job description "virus rectification information reclamation"
[03:44] <Chintan> How can i do this ?
[03:44] <nitrohax> Chintan> so you want to trans files from one ubuntu machine to another?
[03:44] <Chintan> nitrohax : yes
[03:44] <puff> is this a good place to discuss a possible bug in ubuntu software updates?
[03:45] <Chintan> do i need vpn authentication for that ?
[03:45] <puff> To clarify, I'm not sure it's a bug, would like discuss with somebody more advanced before filing a bug.
[03:45] <nitrohax> Chintan> personal files or the whole set up of th machine?
[03:45] <Chintan> project files..
[03:45] <Googol30> Are you allowed to copy everything from the /mnt directory (and paste it into ~)?
[03:45] <Chintan> not big files.
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> Chintan: if you have SSH you can connect to SFTP
[03:45] <ecart> Chintan install apache and zip your files and access your files via browser
[03:45] <ecart> ;/
[03:45] <nitrohax> Chintan> depends. you aren't trying to do setup files for the oS are you?
[03:46] <Chintan> both side ubuntu
[03:46] <nitrohax> Chintan> exactly, do an appache SFTP
[03:46] <Chintan> how ?
[03:46] <ecart> O.o
[03:46] <nitrohax> Chintan> one se
[03:46] <ecart> wampp
[03:46] <ecart> server
[03:46] <Johnn> I cannot log into Ubuntu Operating System it gives me a message along the lines of minimal bash like like editing is supported. Can anyone help me?
[03:46] <ecart> or apt-get install httpd
[03:47] <Guest30362> hi
[03:47] <Laibsch> I'm looking for music and video player that is available for Linux and Android and stores some of it's metadata alongside the music/video files.  Please ask if my request is unclear.
[03:47] <nitrohax> Chintan> look at pm
[03:47] <escott> !sshfs | Chintan
[03:47] <dr_willis_> johntash:  you mean you are in the grub shell?
[03:48] <ecart> Chintan or online install ssh securit shell
[03:48] <ecart> very good
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> Chintan: you will need to port forward port 22 in the router to the pc and run openssh-server. You now have an SFTP server which is secure as well as giving you the ability to connect hom and run commands etc
[03:48] <Johnn> I believe it is ts the grub shell
[03:48] <dr_willis_> !fixgrub
[03:49] <ecart> ssh securit shell no need port forward
[03:49] <ecart> very easy
[03:49] <ecart> only installl and use
[03:49] <dr_willis_> the router may need port forwarding setup ecart
[03:50] <ecart> depends
[03:50] <ecart> not all
[03:50] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> he's looking for the easy GUI way of doing it.
[03:50] <dr_willis_> most will
[03:51] <Googol30> Sanity check... Verizon allows port 25565 through it's firewalls wherever down the line, right?
[03:51] <ReAzem> Two exact same authorized_keys files. Two different user.  I can only log on one, other is refusing key.
[03:51] <ReAzem> Both files are 700, Both files are owned by the respective user.
[03:51] <dr_willis_> why would they block high ports.
[03:51] <ReAzem> I use "AllowUsers user1 user2" on /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:51] <escott> ReAzem, encrypted home?
[03:52] <ReAzem> escott, No
[03:52] <puff> Chintan: The gnome file browser, nautilus, has ssh support.
[03:52] <escott> Googol30, this verizon cellular?
[03:52] <Googol30> They block port 80 to my knowledge... I can't see why port 25565, which is the port for a Minecraft server, would be much different.
[03:52] <Googol30> escott No, residential I think. Not business.
[03:53] <blackdog> g'day all. anyone able to help me debug why the slice battery on my Thinkpad won't charge? I'm a bit stumped as to where to start.
[03:53] <dr_willis_> the low ports are standardized for specific services. high ines are not
[03:53] <puff> Chintan: Start the file browser however you normally do it, then file, Connect To Server, select ssh protocol, put in the username and password.
[03:53] <blackdog> https://gist.github.com/4238511
[03:53] <dr_willis_> you could set minevraft on a different port
[03:54] <blackdog> extra-confusing because 'acpi' tells me that battery 0 is unknown and battery 1 is the built-in one.
[03:54] <puff> blackdog: I have no clue as to your problem, but ##ibmthinkpad can be very helpful if people are awake there (50/50 chance).  Also, linux-thinkpad mailing list is also quite useful.
[03:55] <blackdog> puff: ah, thank you. i'll ask there.
[03:57] <rainbowwarrior2> I have completely forgotten what i came on for, if anyone sees it can they give me it back please ?
[03:57] <escott> Googol30, they could be doing dpi and blocking minecraft in particular
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> blackdog: I'd ask in ##hardware
[03:58] <blackdog> ActionParsnip: thank you, i'll try there too.
[03:59] <escott> ReAzem, only other thing to check is ownership of .ssh folder
[04:00] <Googol30> Anyone have any experience with noip on Ubuntu Server?  Something isn't working somewhere down the line for me and I suspect it's No-IP.
[04:00] <ReAzem> escott, .ssh is owned by the user.
[04:01] <x__> how do you turn off this amazon spyware I keep hearing about ?
[04:01] <ReAzem> Im going crazy
[04:02] <ReAzem> escott, I dont know if this matters, but vmuser had no id_rsa. All it has is authorized_keys.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> !shopping
[04:02] <escott> ReAzem, the user you are logging into need not have an id_rsa
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> x__: sudo apt-get --purge remove unity-lens-shopping
[04:03] <escott> ReAzem, the id_rsa needs to be on the user you originate from
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> x__: then log off and on, its not spyware
[04:03] <ReAzem> escott, I just did "cat /var/log/auth.log" and found the following: "bad ownership or modes for dirrectory /home/user"
[04:04] <escott> ReAzem, it should check down until it gets to a root owned folder. usually $HOME is not fouled up yours must be
[04:04] <x__> ActionParsnip, does it monitor what I do and report it to some company... ?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> x__: no, it sends suggestion based on your search, its not watching what you do on the OS
[04:05] <ReAzem> escott, Sorry, I don't understand.
[04:05] <x__> ActionParsnip, so it monitors my searchs then ?
[04:05] <escott> ReAzem, who owns /home/user
[04:06] <ReAzem> escott, The user, and some other group.
[04:06] <escott> ReAzem, and permissions are?
[04:06] <ReAzem> escott, 770
[04:06] <escott> ReAzem, should be 750
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> x__: there is no identification, all the text used to retrieve the searches is anonymous
[04:07] <ReAzem> escott, Why?
[04:07] <NSAgent> x__: Don't search for your name ;)
[04:08] <escott> ReAzem, suppose I was a member of group, and you did not have a .ssh. then i could create one, fill in my own auth_keys and chown it over to you.
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> x__: if you don't like it then remove it, not tricky :)
[04:08] <dr_willis_> dont search for words that  contain dirty words either....;-)
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis_: like scunthorpe? ;)
[04:08] <x__> ActionParsnip, it still sounds like spyware to me... It is also against the whole open source doctrine
[04:09] <ReAzem> escott, Thanks for giving me the actual reason =). Let me see if this solves it.
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> x__: its removable so I dn't care, its also only installed by default if you use unity which is also optional
[04:09] <ReAzem> escott, Woa. Worked. yay! Thank you =)
[04:10] <x__> ActionParsnip, of course it is optional, but it is the default ubuntu setup. All spyware is removable it is just how hard it is to remove it...
[04:10] <dr_willis_> wife loves the shopping thing.
[04:10] <escott> ReAzem, if you need to share in $HOME with other users create a subfolder for that other user
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> x__: its a package like anything else, not hard at all. a single command
[04:10] <dr_willis_> its not spying.
[04:10] <ReAzem> escott, Thats what I'm doing right now. Just need to edit 2-3 lines of my script.
[04:10] <NSAgent> dr_willis_: We love it at work
[04:11] <dr_willis_> back to ontopic...
[04:11] <x__> ActionParsnip, I am not disputing how easy it is to remove, I removed it already. I am saying I don't understand why this was ever included with a linux distribution....? it goes against foss principles
[04:11] <x__> this IS on topic
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> x__: some people like it and use it. Its just one more package for me to carve out of a clean install
[04:11] <x__> just because you don't like my opinion
[04:11] <dr_willis_> its nit support related.
[04:11] <x__> sure it is
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> x__: no this is a SUPPORT channel, not discussion
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> x__: this is for folks who are having issues installing programs or pointers on themes, not shooting the breeze
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> x__: so, its not support related
[04:12] <dr_willis_> you ask how to remove it.. thats a support question.   why caonacle does stuff isnot.
[04:13] <nitrohax> chintan>it's a router prob.
[04:13] <dr_willis_> to muc chatter drowns out the real support questions.
[04:13] <x__> where would I ask why they would include this then?
[04:13] <nitrohax> i guess chintan gave up
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> x__: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <bibach> Trying to install 12.04 32-bit onto a Samsung N-150 Plus netbook (Phoenix BIOS, came with Win7 Starter).  Put the ISO on a USB flash drive (2G SD card in an adapter) with the Universal USB installer, just as I did on another laptop.  The netbook just will not boot off the USB drive, though.  No CD/DVD drive.  Want to install onto new partitions in empty space I've cleared on the HD, rather than wubi.  Any suggestions?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> bibach: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[04:14] <dr_willis_> shuttleworths blog said why i belive
[04:15] <escott> bibach, not sure SD cards are bootable under most bioses
[04:15] <x__> because amazon is pating them ?
[04:15] <x__> paying*
[04:15] <nitrohax> SD cards are not bootable.
[04:15] <bibach> ActionParsnip: No... good idea.  Though, I was getting the same results when I first tried doing this with the 64-bit ISO that I successfully used on the other laptop.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: depends on bios
[04:15] <dr_willis_> nitrohax:  they can be
[04:16] <nitrohax> Only if the BIOS can recognize a botable media such as sd cards. you maye be able to make it a botable usb device
[04:16] <NSAgent> x__: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 (the why, discuss elsewhere please)
[04:16] <dr_willis_> ive had issues with the usb creator tool befor. rtru some other tools from the pendrivelinux site
[04:16] <nitrohax> if using a USb card reader, most times the card reader even if built in is a usb device
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: exactly, so saying they are 'not bootable' is incorrect, they may be bootable depending on BIOS :)
[04:17] <dr_willis_> my netbooks can boot from sd.
[04:17] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> i covered my ass on that one
[04:17] <dr_willis_> i run ubuntu on them that way
[04:17] <NSAgent> If it cannot boot from SD, there will be no option for it in a boot menu
[04:17] <NSAgent> if boot fails it is something else
[04:18] <bibach> The netbook is only a couple years old, but I guess that's no guarantee that it supports this.
[04:18] <escott> NSAgent, i wouldn't assume that either. i would just try a usb keychain device first
[04:19] <dr_willis_> my old  AAO boots from sd
[04:19] <Hausas> I think I'll go downstairs to play some fifa
[04:19] <dr_willis_> my newer eee does also
[04:19] <nitrohax> bibach>  "MOST" net books dont not see the Sd card as a removable or bootable media. try using a IDE/SATA to USB connectiong
[04:19] <escott> NSAgent, it could also seriously confuse the kernel for grub to bring it up on a multi-function sd card reader
[04:19] <hellhammer> im running ubuntu 12.04 and im have a AMD unsupported hardware watermark in the corner but my hardware is support and my 3d is working how do i remove this watermark?
[04:20] <nitrohax> oh hell, never heard of that before.
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: can you give a screenshot to outline the issue please
[04:20] <jagginess> hellhammer, me too ^
[04:20] <amigamia> you mean the watermark in the corner?
[04:20] <hellhammer> yes
[04:20] <amigamia> oh
[04:20] <hellhammer> it doesnt show up in screenshots
[04:20] <amigamia> :D
[04:20] <hellhammer> it looks like a dot matrix image
[04:20] <bibach> What about a non-USB boot, such as network boot (is that still done with TFTP, these days?) or pushing grub onto the MSB from Windows and getting it to load the install from somewhere?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: something like imageshack etc
[04:20] <amigamia> umm
[04:21] <nitrohax> hellhammer> I just wanted to tell you good luck, we are all counting on you "from the movie airplane"
[04:21] <jagginess> hellhammer, once upon a time, not my time, not your time
[04:21] <jagginess> hellhammer, something interesting
[04:21] <amigamia> that's strange hellhammer
[04:21] <jagginess> hellhammer, ya i know..
[04:21] <amigamia> can you make a screenshot and pastebin?
[04:21] <NSAgent> bibach: Netboot still works, but you need to boot off of something originally to start it
[04:22] <WeThePeople> hellhammer, imgh.us
[04:22] <jagginess> hellhammer, yes uh huh
[04:22] <hellhammer> http://www.imagebam.com/image/1c6209224622720
[04:22] <NSAgent> bibach: Unless you use PXE
[04:22] <hellhammer> screenshot
[04:22] <nitrohax> jagginess> my episodes always begin at episode IVI hope
[04:22] <hellhammer> but it doesnt show up in the picture
[04:22] <escott> bibach, problem with pushing from windows is that grub is a multi-stage bootloader. i needs space outside the mbr
[04:22] <bibach> The BIOS has PXE as an option.  Just need a TFTP server?  Or some other protocol?
[04:23] <jagginess> hellhammer, cant help ya.. the desktop picture is too depressing
[04:23] <bibach> escott: Good point, forgot about that.
[04:23] <NSAgent> bibach: DHCP with some options as well, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[04:23] <nitrohax> jagginess> like someone in hating punching a baby with a sad puppy in the background?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: was going to say...where am I looking :)
[04:23] <xander> How do you mount an image?
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> xander: you can use mounty
[04:24] <hellhammer> its not in the picture
[04:24] <hellhammer> its like an overlay watermark
[04:24] <hellhammer> it wont show up in screenshots
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> xander: or run:   sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: got a camera?
[04:24] <nitrohax> hellhammer> on you screen you are sayign you have a watermark?
[04:24] <Guest23434> ActionParsnip: mounty? what is that?
[04:24] <hellhammer> yes
[04:25] <hellhammer> looks like this
[04:25] <hellhammer> http://i.stack.imgur.com/dmW6D.jpg
[04:25] <hellhammer> this picture shows the watermark
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: its a GUI app for mounting images, for people who find loop mounting too hard
[04:25] <bibach> Netboot sounds promising; I'll give that a try.  Thanks, all!
[04:25] <nitrohax> belive it or not, there is a site on that
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: that is strange
[04:26] <Guest23434> actionparsnip: where can I download it?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: there is a ppa
[04:26] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> i guess it happens alot, there i a askubu thread on it
[04:27] <Guest23434> ActionParsnip: a what? I just looked in the ubuntu media center and I didn't find it.
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: you need a 3rd party source
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?19875-Unsupported-Hardware-watermark
[04:27] <dr_willis_> iso mounting gui?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=mounty+ubuntu    too hard for you?
[04:28] <warz> hi all. i just tried install ubuntu 12.10 desktop on my computer with an nvidia gtx 580 video card. it doesnt seem to support it. in fact, ubuntu just seems to take a big crap all over it.
[04:28] <warz> is this common?
[04:28] <dr_willis_> !info giso
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: didn't think to do that....?
[04:28] <warz> nvidia cards and ubuntu
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> warz: which nvidia driver version are you running?
[04:28] <guang_> is there a word in usb's sector indicate the app used to open the usb?
[04:29] <Guest23434> ActionParsnip: Why so hostile? Yes I did think of that however I used google and didn't find anything
[04:29] <dr_willis_> warz:  not an issue with my older nvidia  cards
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: because its such a basic thing to try
[04:29] <warz> ActionParsnip, I was trying to install the latest, but it was failing. I'm not sure how to check, otherwise. It's relatively recent, though. It was only a few minor version behind
[04:29] <warz> its whichever one ships with ubuntu, I guess
[04:29] <warz> so whichever is latest on aptitude
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> warz: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia-current
[04:30] <warz> ActionParsnip, well one moment. Let me see if I can get back to a command line. It's all borked. lol.
[04:30] <warz> gimme a few secs.
[04:30] <dr_willis_> warz:  thats 2 different ones. ;-)
[04:30] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> i'm trying to google, google, to see how google finds google on the internet. you think i should try google.com then searching for google?
[04:30] <dr_willis_> nitrohax:  use askjeeves
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: don't put google into google, you'll break the internet :)
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: use duckduckgo :) it's the awesome
[04:31] <warz> ActionParsnip, 304.51.really
[04:31] <warz> amd64
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> warz: sounds ok. If you run:   sudo lshw -C display     do you see:   driver=nvidia
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> warz: also, do you also see an Intel GPU in the output?
[04:32] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> but th elders of the internet...they know who i am?!
[04:32] <WeThePeople> nitrohax, site:google.com <<< put this in google search bar
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: the internet doesn't weigh anything :)
[04:33] <nitrohax> WeThePeople> Silly, the internet weighs nothing
[04:33] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> damn it that was my line
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: my search bar searches duckduckgo :)
[04:33] <nitrohax> WeThePeople> the blinking light means it's woring
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: i especially love the ppa bang :)
[04:34] <WeThePeople> lol
[04:34] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> It's the internet, it's WIFI.
[04:34] <warz> one sec, i rebooted and im trying to get back to terimal again. heh
[04:36] <warz> well i dont see that exact text, but i do see the following
[04:37] <warz> "product: GF110 [GeForce GTX580]"
[04:37] <warz> below a line that says "*-display UNCLAIMED"
[04:37] <nitrohax> another CMA, hellhammer was told that by activating certain drivers they he may need to uninstall them using the server CLI
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> warz: so you only have the nvidia gpu?
[04:38] <warz> ya only 1 card
[04:38] <nitrohax> I'll mine that for a dollar
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> warz: try running:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    and rebooting
[04:38] <bazhang> nitrohax, ?
[04:38] <warz> ok
[04:39] <bazhang> nitrohax, what are you talking about
[04:40] <warz> "WARNING: unable to locate or open X config file"
[04:40] <warz> it wrote a new file
[04:40] <warz> that to be expected?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> warz: its fine, it then makes one for you
[04:41] <nitrohax> bazhang> all i can say is "watch robo cop"
[04:41] <WeThePeople> what one
[04:41] <nitrohax> WeThePeople> there is nly one
[04:41] <warz> woah ok it booted into gnome or whatever this is now days but the resolution is all whack
[04:41] <warz> how can i verify that its using the driver?
[04:41] <sambagirl> my god what kind of  image file was that anyway?
[04:42] <almoxarife> whack is good?
[04:42] <warz> negatory
[04:42] <warz> ghost rider
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> warz: run:  sudo lshw -C display
[04:43] <warz> hm, i tried logging in and it seems to have failed to load all the way. it just sat with the backgroun and no UI loaded. im gonna boot back into terminal mode.
[04:43] <sambagirl> hi Action!
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> warz: you may want to run:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf     and change the resolution
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> hi amigamia
[04:44] <nitrohax> damn it 7Gb mka. later
[04:44] <warz> same display output
[04:45] <amigamia> i've noticed lately there are a lot of linux virus protection and seek n destroy applications to protect us from windows exe infections :)
[04:46] <amigamia> is ubuntu bundling with any particular virus protection vendor?
[04:46] <warz> hm ok ill look up how to set resolution
[04:46] <almoxarife> amigamia: virus?
[04:46] <amigamia> yes apparantly there are a lot of malicious windows exe viruses attacking ubuntu os and even solaris. i read about it.
[04:47] <almoxarife> amigamia: you mean virus check shared files? the ones windoz may have to open?
[04:47] <cheesecakes> windows virus attacking ubuntu
[04:47] <almoxarife> amigamia: thats news i have not heard about, which for instance? got a link?
[04:47] <cheesecakes> is this even possible :/
[04:48] <amigamia> i also read that operating systems like reactos, haiku, zeta and even AmigaOS is being threatened by these windows exe malicious viruses and that is why i am checking to see which viender Ubuntu is going to bundle with future releases? :D
[04:48] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: could attack a wine app
[04:48] <dr_willis_> cheesecakes:  i require proof. ;-)
[04:48] <amigamia> Now i saw on tv about Mcaffee and i hope that vendor isnt chosen
[04:48] <amigamia> he's kinda creepy
[04:49] <cheesecakes> almoxarife: but a wine app wont threaten your system or would it ?
[04:49] <bazhang> amigamia, lets get back on topic
[04:49] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: linux? no
[04:49] <dr_willis_> biggest danger to a ubuntu box i see.. is the end user doing sinthing silly.
[04:49] <cheesecakes> lets say you use an infected exe with wine
[04:49] <Amelia28> Hello, I have Ubuntu and HP Touchsmart and I am trying to calibrate touchscreen using program calibrate touchscreen but when this program opens in the terminal an error message displays "Error: No calibratable devices found"...........any suggestions on how to move forward??
[04:49] <amigamia> dr_willis_ i read in the Midnight news paper while waiting at the checkout about it.
[04:50] <bazhang> amigamia, thats enough.
[04:50] <bazhang> !virus | cheesecakes amigamia
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Amelia28: are there any bugs reported?
[04:50] <dr_willis_> cheesecakes:  i used to test malware in wine to determine what it installed. to make removeing it easier
[04:51] <cheesecakes> yeah so we have troll/ highly misinformed person and i dont need to worry about it right
[04:51] <cheesecakes> dr_willis_: nice
[04:51] <bazhang> cheesecakes, no need to worry. read the link above
[04:51] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: wine runs in a sandbox, worse case scenario you delete /home/your-user-name/.wine , poof, gone
[04:51] <dr_willis_> malware is not the same as a virus either
[04:52] <cheesecakes> ok cool
[04:52] <warz> meh. im not sure. it just sits at a screen showing the background after i log in.
[04:52] <dr_willis_> its 'fud' fighting night here it seems.
[04:52] <cheesecakes> yeah i should start trusting linux more
[04:52] <cheesecakes> and not trust random strangers
[04:53] <dr_willis_> biggest danger to a ubuntu box i see.. is the end user.  v;-)
[04:53] <cheesecakes> dr_willis_: a user like who likes change stuff just because to see what happens :D
[04:53] <almoxarife> dr_willis_: deep
[04:54] <RickZilla> I don't know about that, dr_willis_, the best way to learn ubuntu is to install it and mess around with it. Even if you break something you've learned
[04:54] <RickZilla> What's the worst that can happen? You wipe the install and start all over
[04:54] <RickZilla> it's not like you're going to start a fire or something
[04:54] <dr_willis_> pc explodes.. ;-)
[04:56] <dr_willis_> blue smoke escapes... pcs need that blue smoke.
[04:56] <puff> RickZilla: Ubuntu initiates a total mass-energy conversion of his PC, destroying most of the state he lives in.
[04:56] <dr_willis_>  i live in a state of denile.
[04:57] <puff> dr_willis_: You live in egypt?
[04:57] <puff> Ugh, okay, so nvidia-experimental-310 still has not solved my external monitor problem.
[04:58] <dr_willis_> ii do wish they would include that ubuntu manual  on the desktop. and some other   "ubuntu is not windows" guides
[04:58] <RickZilla> They do...it's called google :-)
[04:59] <bazhang> !lnw | RickZilla
[04:59] <RickZilla> I'm just one app from being able to shed Windows altogether
[05:00] <puff> I haven't booted windows on my laptop in years... still have to maintain mom's windows machine :-).
[05:01] <almoxarife> i went win free when i found that i could get my taxes done via web-browser on the linux box, what a happy day
[05:01] <puff> It's occasionally a pain, usually because Other People insist on using proprietary formats (though most of the time I open office or etc can handle that).
[05:01] <dr_willis_> the horrors of booting up a windows machive that hasent been on or updated in 6+ months..... ;-)
[05:02] <Guest69164> ActionParsnip: Mounty won't install, any other program suggestions?
[05:02] <Guest69164> For mounting .dd images?
[05:02] <dr_willis_> Guest69164:  command line is the best way
[05:03] <almoxarife> dr_willis_: do you get the 'these icons have not seen the light of day since noah was a boot camp, care to lose them now?'
[05:03] <dr_willis_> since a "dd" imgage can vary greatly
[05:03] <Guest69164> dr_willis_: how do I do it in the command mount?
[05:03] <dr_willis_> !iso
[05:04] <dr_willis_> similer to the command given above
[05:04] <Guest69164> ubottu: what is a mountpoint?
[05:04] <dr_willis_> sudo mount -o loop image -f auto  mountpoi
[05:05] <dr_willis_> !mount |  Guest69164
[05:05] <Guest69164> dr_willis_: what is a mount point? how does one create it?
[05:06] <dr_willis_> ts where the filesystem shows up
[05:06] <dr_willis_> a directory
[05:06] <dr_willis_> like   /media/mydrive
[05:06] <WeThePeople> if i burn 2 iso to the same rw-disc will they show up/
[05:07] <WeThePeople> lets say 12.04 and 10.04
[05:07] <dr_willis_> no WeThePeople
[05:07] <Amelia28> how do I create a directory in the command line??? :)
[05:07] <dr_willis_> yyou can make multi iso usb sticks
[05:07] <Zael> not without modifing them
[05:07] <dr_willis_> Amelia28:  mkdir
[05:07] <Zhaofeng_Li> Amelia28: mkdir
[05:07] <Amelia28> thanks :)
[05:08] <dr_willis_> !bash
[05:08] <dr_willis_> bash basics.
[05:09] <mohajuice> hello dr_willis how to install usb modem i hav usb driver files in a debian package format but i don't know how to install them
[05:09] <dr_willis_> mohajuice:  where did they come from?
[05:10] <Thete> sudo dkpg -i package.deb
[05:10] <dr_willis_> a usb dialup modem? 3g modem?
[05:11] <mohajuice> its in vitual cdrom in a usb modem
[05:11] <dr_willis_> or    sudo gdebi  file.deb
[05:11] <Thete> wut?
[05:12] <dr_willis_> iit came on a flash drive built into the modem?
[05:12] <mohajuice> its 3g HSPA modem
[05:12] <dr_willis_> i doubt if it will work 2ith that. deb
[05:12] <Thete> why wouldn't it?
[05:13] <dr_willis_> binary drivers are kernel specific normally.
[05:13] <Thete> maybe it's not a binary
[05:13] <dr_willis_> this is not windows.
[05:13] <mohajuice> these r the ubuntu specific drivers
[05:13] <dr_willis_> then it would be a. src.deb wouldent it?
[05:14] <Thete> Maybe it is
[05:14] <Thete> who knows
[05:14] <Thete> hehe
[05:14] <dr_willis_> thats supriseing they would include ubuntu drivers.
[05:14] <Thete> I would assume that if it does have a deb driver included, it's most likely ubuntu
[05:14] <Thete> Cause who runs debian
[05:15] <dr_willis_> ask why they  dont include the drivers in the ubuntu repos... is a better question
[05:15] <mohajuice> can i send u those driver files
[05:16] <dr_willis_> mohajuice:  you hace just tried plugging it in to see if it workd?
[05:17] <dr_willis_> then try the additional -drivers tool to see if it suggests anything
[05:17] <vite> Hi, how do I access files on an ubuntu server without using ftp? server is within my private lan
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Thete: http://www.debian.org/users/
[05:18] <EmmEight> ubuntu IRC on a Friday night.. we aren't nerds
[05:18] <dr_willis_> vite: ssh. scp. samba nfs..
[05:18] <dr_willis_> EmmEight:  im at work. v:-P
[05:18] <EmmEight> I just got off a few hours ago ha
[05:18] <cheesecakes> its saturday morning for me
[05:18] <vite> dr_willis_: will my windows pc detect samba?
[05:18] <EmmEight> even worse cheescakes
[05:19] <dr_willis_> vite: yes
[05:19] <EmmEight> vite yes
[05:19] <dr_willis_> !samba
[05:19] <isasha> help
[05:19] <vite> thanks
[05:19] <cheesecakes> isaha give your problem details
[05:19] <dr_willis_> vite:  or use  winscp and ssh. for simple transfers
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Thete: quite a few going by that list
[05:20] <Destroxx> Hello
[05:20] <cheesecakes> hello
[05:21] <cheesecakes> connecting blackberries and using them as modems is difficult
[05:21] <Destroxx> never tried that
[05:21] <EmmEight> using blackberries is difficult
[05:21] <EmmEight> why?
[05:22] <cheesecakes> actually it rim's fault for not developing a desktop manager app for linux
[05:22] <Destroxx> i think he means as a modem (??)
[05:22] <cheesecakes> EmmEight: the available apps dont seem to work properly
[05:23] <mohajuice> i try to send u files
[05:23] <bryan_> How is everyone?
[05:24] <cheesecakes> mohajuice: me?
[05:24] <cheesecakes> i am good bryan_
[05:25] <bryan_> That's good, cheesecakes. I am a bit tired.
[05:25] <Destroxx> has anyone seen the ubuntu tablet concept yet ??????/
[05:25] <EmmEight> NO
[05:25] <cheesecakes> i am fresh as i just woke up :D
[05:26] <Destroxx> seriously i think its wayy col
[05:26] <Destroxx> cool*
[05:26] <bryan_> ooo, fresh is good :P
[05:28] <cheesecakes> time for lunch
[05:30] <mehwork> my mouse cursor disappeared. How can i refresh it without restarting?
[05:32] <bin_bash> is it true that when you search for something on the ubuntu desktop it gets sent back to canonical?
[05:32] <mehwork> bin_bash: everything RMS says is true
[05:33] <cheesecakes> bin_bash: are you the exe guy?
[05:34] <bin_bash> cheesecakes, the exe guy?
[05:34] <bin_bash> mehwork, idk about everything, but is this true?
[05:35] <cheesecakes> nvm it was someone else
[05:35] <mehwork> arg even sudo modprobe -r psmouse didn't fix my mouse issue. The cursor icon is completely disappeared
[05:35] <bin_bash> did you try turning it off and then on again
[05:35] <mehwork> i think ubuntu must have uploaded my mouse cursor to canonical too :(
[05:35] <cheesecakes> hhaha
[05:35] <mehwork> i really can't afford to restart ubuntu right now, too much going on
[05:36] <whatwhat> so.... i heard
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> mehwork: hit alt+tab may help
[05:36] <cheesecakes> how aboutunplugging it and then plugging it back in
[05:36] <whatwhat> BIRD IS THE WORD
[05:36] <mehwork> ActionParsnip: that was the first thing i tried, that would normally help me when my cursor gets all messed up but isn't in this case
[05:37] <mehwork> my cursor is constantly messed up since i installed the latest ubuntu, everytime it touches the right side of my screen it turns almost invisible and this time it turned completely invisible and wont come back
[05:37] <mehwork> most annoying thing i've ever witnessed
[05:37] <mehwork> i even plugged a usb mouse into this laptop and still nothin
[05:37] <dr_willis_> you overworked your mouse
[05:37] <dr_willis_> is it just invisible?
[05:37] <mehwork> it's invisible, i f i move it around i can see it ghosting over things like text
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> mehwork: try switching workspace
[05:38] <mehwork> ActionParsnip: i did all that believe me
[05:38] <mehwork> ActionParsnip: i also tried locking my screen and unlocking
[05:38] <mehwork> simple repaints aren't bringing it back
[05:39] <mehwork> why does stuff like this only ever happen at the worst time, when i can't restart and have a deadline
[05:39] <bin_bash> why can't you restart
[05:39] <mehwork> i'm running long term processes that i can't just abandon right now
[05:40] <mehwork> it would set me back a couple hours
[05:40] <atlus> what do I need to install to ./configure 32-bit in 64-bit ubuntu 12.10
[05:41] <mehwork> i even unplugged my second monitor and it's still not fixing it
[05:42] <dr_willis_> try changeing mouse themes?
[05:43] <dr_willis_> atlus: if you install a 32bit deb it should pull in all needed dependencies
[05:43] <Destroxx> is this tech suporte lol
[05:43] <mehwork> dr_willis_: how
[05:43] <bin_bash> no
[05:44] <atlus> dr willis what is that 32bit deb called?
[05:45] <cutt3r> I have a 20GB SSD and a 500GB HDD.  I want to install the OS on the SSD encrypted and the /home on the HDD encrypted.  Do I need to worry about TRIM on the SSD if only the OS is going to be on the SSD?
[05:47] <bin_bash> Why do you guys use a distro that is also a spyware?
[05:47] <mehwork> i don't understand what sudo modprobe -r psmouse woulnd't fix this
[05:47] <RickZilla> bin_bash: Why do you troll?
[05:47] <bin_bash> I'm not trolling
[05:47] <RickZilla> Sure you are
[05:47] <bin_bash> I'm genuinely curious why you hate your own freedom
[05:47] <RickZilla> This is a channel dedicated for ubuntu support
[05:48] <dr_willis_> atlus: any 32 bit deb like wine should pull in  the needed 32  bit support ddebs
[05:48] <mehwork> bin_bash: people don't generally equate not having 100% privacy to not having freedom
[05:48] <mehwork> most people don't care much about certain privacy things, even though they should, but if they don't they don't. Worry about your own not others
[05:48] <bin_bash> mehwork, they should. That's just ignorant.
[05:48] <Malimbar> mehwork, I'd recommend to try not to feed the trolls.
[05:49] <mehwork> Malimbar: i would love to get an answer that worked and then leave
[05:49] <bin_bash> mehwork, did you try googling it
[05:49] <Malimbar> mehwork, then I would be happy to talk in separate, but not in an ubuntu support channel
[05:50] <Malimbar> oh wait, you meant your issue
[05:50] <mehwork> bin_bash: alli 'm doing is googling and asking in here and nothings working
[05:50] <dr_willis_> so the mouse is dead? or just invisible cursor
[05:50] <Malimbar> sorry, no idea
[05:50] <mehwork> dr_willis_: just invisible cursor, it still moves and clicks
[05:50] <bin_bash> mehwork, what is the problem exactly
[05:52] <dr_willis_> i firget how you change mouse themes...
[05:53] <Malimbar> did you do anything that may have accidentally screwed up the mouse cursor?
[05:53] <digitaldefector> does anyone know of a website that specializes in sharing scripts for Ubuntu?
[05:54] <dr_willis_> iinvisble mouse pointers. ;(
[05:54] <dr_willis_> there was a command years ago to set the cursor. xsetroot?
[05:54] <mehwork> Malimbar: it screws up everytime i touch the right edge of my second monitor
[05:54] <Malimbar> ... huh
[05:54] <mehwork> it's a weird problem that happens either because of the latest ubuntu or because my acer laptop isn't supported
[05:55] <mehwork> most likely the latter since noone else is saying it happens to them
[05:55] <ubuntu> how do i remove grub from a live cd
[05:55] <RickZilla> Is the usb installer here persistent? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[05:55] <atlus> anyone have any idea how to fix this problem during ./configure http://pastebin.com/Gm3nHGGe
[05:55] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu: genereally syslinux is on live cds
[05:56] <dr_willis_> !find unclutter
[05:56] <dr_willis_> !info unclutter
[05:56] <SolarisBoy> Guest56589: you can unpack the iso remove the folder it and pack it back up, but then it wouldn't boot
[05:56] <dr_willis_> iif it  hides it.. it may bring it back
[05:59] <Malimbar> atlus, have you looked up ia32-libs? there should be a dev version too
[06:00] <Guest56589> im on a live cd and the terminal commands are not working, what do i have to do to install ms-sys
[06:00] <Malimbar> ms-sys? what is that?
[06:01] <Guest56589> malimbar, it restores windows mbr
[06:01] <Guest56589> i think
[06:01] <digitaldefector> does anyone know of a website that specializes in sharing scripts for Ubuntu?
[06:01] <mehwork> dr_willis_: i installed unclutter. Now what?
[06:01] <Malimbar> ah, looked it up on duckduckgo
[06:02] <dr_willis_> mehwork:  it hides the cursor after a few moments.. and  restores it when moved.
[06:02] <Guest56589> dr_willis, do i need to enable 'universe' to install with the terminal
[06:02] <dr_willis_> if you are lucky
[06:02] <Malimbar> mehwork, just try to make your cursor invisible, wait a few seconds, and then move it again
[06:02] <Malimbar> if it works
[06:03] <dr_willis_> !universe
[06:03] <mehwork> how many seconds? i just tried about 20
[06:03] <Malimbar> manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/unclutter.1.html
[06:03] <Malimbar> default is 5.
[06:03] <Malimbar> darn
[06:03] <mehwork> not working then and yes i did start it
[06:03] <mehwork> this is a nightmare :(
[06:03] <Malimbar> it's a weird problem too
[06:04] <Malimbar> I wonder what's causing it
[06:04] <mehwork> bad mouse drivers for acer laptops is all i can think
[06:04] <mehwork> it's a brand new system, maybe ubuntu doesnt support it yet
[06:04] <dr_willis_> aha.. old school way to change cursor.....
[06:04] <dr_willis_> xsetroot -cursor_name X_cursor
[06:05] <Malimbar> but, it's a display problem. would that still be caused by a driver?
[06:05] <Malimbar> dr_willis_, nice idea
[06:05] <mehwork> nice idea, but didnt work either
[06:05] <Malimbar> damn
[06:05] <dr_willis_> no idea if thats valid these days
[06:05] <mehwork> it didn't error
[06:05] <arossboss> hello
[06:05] <newbie211> Can anyone visit www.thepiratebay.org ?
[06:05] <Malimbar> we still rely on xserver, so why would it change?
[06:06] <newbie211> It seems to be down today...
[06:06] <Malimbar> newbie211, of course
[06:06] <dr_willis_> xorg  vs xfree
[06:06] <Malimbar> but you're not looking for .org, you're looking for .se
[06:06] <Malimbar> they changed it a while aback
[06:06] <dr_willis_> whens the last time you saw that big X corsor
[06:06] <Malimbar> lol
[06:06] <newbie211> what should be the domain
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> newbie211: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ you can always just use that in the future
[06:06] <Guest56589> dr_willis, does software sources exist on a live cd
[06:07] <Guest56589> cuz i am not finding it
[06:07] <Guest56589> 12.04
[06:08] <SolarisBoy> you can try 'apt-get source package' on a live cd
[06:08] <Malimbar> Guest56589, yes they exist in some capacity
[06:08] <Malimbar> software sources > other software > cdrom:[Ubuntu blah blah]
[06:08] <atlus> I take it that there is no other way to configure a wine patch on a 64 bit system?
[06:09] <Malimbar> atlus, what configuration are you trying to do?
[06:11] <Malimbar> The pastebin you showed earlier was complaining about you not having installed ia32-libs-dev
[06:11] <Malimbar> or something like that
[06:13] <mehwork> that was JUST friggin wonderful.
[06:14] <mehwork> an askubuntu page said to try running: compiz --replace, and it crashed and i had to restart
[06:14] <Albastos> ah ba ok :)
[06:14] <mehwork> asdsfaj;kajsfdksdak;lfas
[06:14] <mehwork> oh well, 3 hours lost, no big deal
[06:15] <Malimbar> mehwork, does this happen every reboot?
[06:15] <Malimbar> my last resort to lean on
[06:15] <dr_willis_> mehwork: does the issue affect other windowmanagers?
[06:15] <mehwork> it will mess up my cursor if i touch the right edge of my screen
[06:15] <mehwork> idk
[06:15] <Malimbar> oh yeah, different window managers would be interesting
[06:15] <Malimbar> crappy to test though
[06:15] <Malimbar> which ubuntu are you using again?
[06:15] <mehwork> 12.04
[06:15] <dr_willis_> it may be compix orvcompiz plugin specific
[06:16] <Malimbar> try loggin in using the 2d mode
[06:16] <mehwork> how
[06:16] <Malimbar> go back to the login screen
[06:16] <Guest56589> if anybody is interested you can find the software-sources if you type>>> software-properties-gtk <<< in terminal
[06:16] <Malimbar> click on the button thing int he corner
[06:16] <Malimbar> and click unity 2d
[06:16] <Malimbar> (going form memory)
[06:16] <mehwork> i want to try turning off some plugins and making compiz lighter anyway since this laptop is slow
[06:16] <Guest56589> 12.04
[06:17] <phunyguy_t430s> is there any way to restore empathy back to the minimalistic layout for the contact list? I hate the big look.
[06:18] <nick_h> when converting an RPM to a DEB, where does alien write the DEB to?
[06:18] <Malimbar> yeah, unity 2d doesn't have any of that, and it's still installed in ubuntu 12.04 I think
[06:18] <Malimbar> and it doesn't run compiz at all
[06:18] <mehwork> huh im pretty sure it runs compiz
[06:19] <Guest56589> nick_h, home folder maybe
[06:19] <dr_willis_> not on 12.04
[06:19] <mehwork> ps aux | grep compiz shows it's running
[06:19] <mehwork> and i definitely didn't install it on my own
[06:19] <Malimbar> unity 2d is made from scratch with the qt kit
[06:19] <Malimbar> so no compiz
[06:19] <dr_willis_> it uses mutter ii thought
[06:19] <Malimbar> nope, not mutter either I think
[06:19] <newbie211> I am unable o visit piratebay....
[06:19] <mehwork> oh i'm running 12.10
[06:19] <mehwork> my bad
[06:19] <dr_willis_> metacity
[06:20] <newbie211> *to
[06:20] <dr_willis_> lol.
[06:20] <Malimbar> lol
[06:20] <Malimbar> yeah, a bit different
[06:20] <dr_willis_> no unity 2d on 12.10
[06:20] <Malimbar> oh, I didn't think 12.10 had unity 2d, just unity
[06:20] <mehwork> how do i bring up a compiz settings editor in 12.10?
[06:20] <dr_willis_> !ccsm
[06:20] <mehwork> thanks
[06:21] <nick_h> Guest56589: i checked my home dir, but it's not there
[06:21] <Malimbar> tyr unity 2d before you're messing with that though
[06:21] <Malimbar> not everything in compiz configuration works, and some of it breaks crap
[06:21] <mehwork> i don't like unity at all, can i disable it? I'd rather just use gnome-do
[06:22] <Malimbar> mehwork, sure
[06:22] <RickZilla> Where is disk utility in 12.10? It's showing up in synaptic as being installed, but I don't see it anywhere
[06:22] <Malimbar> but try unity 2d first for your mouse issue
[06:22] <dr_willis_> install other desktops.
[06:22] <dr_willis_> no unity 2d on 12.10
[06:22] <dr_willis_> its gone....
[06:22] <Malimbar> dr_willis_, yeah, but he's currently on 12.04
[06:22] <mehwork> dr_willis_: well i stll want to use gnome
[06:22] <dr_willis_> he said 12.10
[06:22] <mehwork> Malimbar: no i'm on 12.10 i messed up
[06:23] <Malimbar> did he? oh missed that
[06:23] <dr_willis_> use gnome shell then mehwork
[06:23] <dr_willis_> !gnome-shell
[06:23] <dr_willis_> !gnomeshell
[06:23] <Malimbar> gnome shell... ugh. Personal preference of course
[06:23] <Malimbar> it's not the same as old gnome
[06:24] <dr_willis_> old gnome is dead jim!
[06:24] <Malimbar> dr_willis_, never! there are forks, and at least it's less broken and weird than gnome shell
[06:24] <dr_willis_> old gnome had a lot of issues also. ;-)
[06:24] <Malimbar> lol
[06:24] <dr_willis_> hes dead jim!
[06:24]  * Malimbar shrugs
[06:25] <Malimbar>  but those bugs I was used to
[06:25] <dr_willis_> same was said about windows 95. :-P
[06:25] <Malimbar> I had a friend that loved windows 95
[06:25] <Malimbar> when 98 came out he complained up a storm at the new security measures
[06:26] <dr_willis_> lubuntu works well
[06:26] <Malimbar> lubuntu does work well
[06:27] <chroot> hi, ffmpeg use too much cpu in my computer?
[06:27] <chroot> is there a way to limit this?
[06:28] <almoxarife> chroot: yes, smaller transcode or bigger cpu
[06:28] <Malimbar> chroot, is there a way to lower it's priority? that would be what I would look up
[06:29] <chroot> Malimbar: yeah, i want to limit the cpu usage of the ffmeg!
[06:29] <chroot> let me search it in googl
[06:30] <Malimbar> you can in system monitor it looks like
[06:30] <Malimbar> open the process, right click on it's priority
[06:30] <dr_willis_> ffmpeg has a threads option i belive
[06:31] <dr_willis_> it only uses 1 core y default i think.
[06:31] <Malimbar> dr_willis_, that won't use less cpu though, would it? I would imagine that would only clog it up more
[06:31] <chroot> dr_willis_: yes, I just saw it on google, but i haven't try it.
[06:31] <Malimbar> worth a shot
[06:32] <dr_willis_> even when using all my cores the ssytem is still useable for me
[06:32] <almoxarife> Malimbar: if i did what you suggested, would that only be for the present session? or would it write to something?
[06:32] <dr_willis_> whats your system  specs?
[06:32] <Malimbar> almoxarife, pretty sure it's only one session
[06:33] <almoxarife> Malimbar: thnks, gave me an idea
[06:33] <Malimbar> yay
[06:33] <almoxarife> yay
[06:34] <dr_willis_> yay!
[06:35] <dr_willis_> >fluttershy<
[06:36] <myhero> how to prepare a single deb of any app with its dependencies included in it ?
[06:37] <almoxarife> thats something i dont see much, 'nice' tweaks, like the old tweaks for xp, everyone had one on the web
[06:37] <dr_willis_> hmm. i dont recall ever seeign that done myhero
[06:37] <myhero> dr_willis_: so is it possible or not ?
[06:38] <dr_willis_> hmm. i dont recall ever seeign that done myhero ......
[06:38] <dr_willis_> :)
[06:38] <myhero> ok
[06:38] <dr_willis_> i dont see how it would be possible
[06:38] <almoxarife> myhero: compile it from source, end the process with 'checkinstall' verses make install, presto, a deb
[06:38] <dr_willis_> he wantes a super-deb i guess.
[06:39] <myhero> almoxarife: thnx :)
[06:39] <almoxarife> dr_willis_: super-debi?
[06:39] <dr_willis_> or did i missread
[06:39] <dr_willis_> a single deb with all deps included.......  he said
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> myhero: packages, especially gui ones would have gigabytes of data to have all deps
[06:40] <dr_willis_> and the deps have deps.. that have deps..
[06:41] <myhero> dr_willis_: lol no..but my intention is organised backup.....apps with dependencies are hard to organise on local system
[06:41] <myhero> ActionParsnip: i want it for smaller apps only or the onces which i develop locally
[06:42] <dr_willis_> no real need to backup the. debs  from what ive seen.
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> myhero: when you use checkinstall you can set the deps and the pckage manager will pull them in
[06:42] <seeqwell> heelllpppp! http://pastebin.com/ygYhw3AQ what do I put in my /opt/netdb/data/devicelist.csv file please?
[06:43] <nick_h> when i install from source with "./configure --prefix=/opt && make && make install" , will the software be installed in /opt ?
[06:43] <seeqwell> sudo make install nick_h
[06:43] <nick_h> ah right
[06:43] <nick_h> seeqwell: and that'll install into /opt ?
[06:44] <almoxarife> !checkinstall
[06:44] <seeqwell> yes
[06:44] <almoxarife> seeqwell: see\
[06:44] <nick_h> thanks guys
[06:44] <myhero> hmm
[06:44] <nick_h> what i'm trying to do is install a newer version of ImageMagick
[06:45] <dr_willis_> there may be a ppa for it nick_h
[06:45] <almoxarife> does alien do a good job of debi-fying?
[06:45] <nick_h> i converted a newer version RPM to a DEB, but it won't install because it wants to overwrite a file that an existing package owns
[06:45] <dr_willis_> alien and rpms are best avoided
[06:46] <dr_willis_> !alien
[06:46] <seeqwell> can anyone help me with my device list file?  are they talking about getting my info from /etc/hosts or where  http://pastebin.com/ygYhw3AQ
[06:46] <dr_willis_> repos. ppas or source.... bestbets.. then  other ways
[06:47] <nick_h> dr_willis_: there's a PPA for ImageMagick, but it doesn't include a packaged version of 6.8
[06:47] <dr_willis_> may be newer ppas.
[06:47] <nick_h> dr_willis_: where would i find those?
[06:47] <Ascavasaion> Odd question here... possibly... But howcome the virtualbox 4.2.xxxxxxx is 57Mb from www.virtualbox.org and the virtualbox 4.1.xxxxxxx is 23.5Mb through Ubuntu's Software Manager?  4.1 to 4.2 and more than double the size?
[06:47] <dr_willis_> use the ppa search site/tools
[06:48] <dr_willis_> ubuntus may be split into otger debs.
[06:48] <dr_willis_> other
[06:49] <Ascavasaion> dr_willis_: Oh, hmmm  I am at work and do not want to download too much hehe
[06:49] <dr_willis_> or they used better compression. ;-)
[06:50] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: you are better off with the version from the website
[06:51] <WhiteCreation> k
[06:51] <nick_h> !ppa
[06:51] <almoxarife> i really trashed my system once with ppa-purge, that was a hard lesson
[06:53] <dr_willis_> bbl
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: Thank you... I was thinking that because I run Ubuntu as my primary OS, but I have a DSTV Drifta (device with an antennae used to watch TV through laptop/phone) but it only runs through Windows.  So I was thinking of installing XP in Virtualbox and trying to get that to work.  I tried once before with no success.  I seem to think it had to do with the USB port in Virtualbox.
[06:54] <teubank> Ver 12.10, recently installed, gnome-session-fallback, everything working,  update-manager offered new updates, which I accepted.  Now system will not boot.  I can get into grub rescue, but some entries there do not seem to work properly and I'm not sure what I should be seeing.  E.g., Check filesystems, warning dialog, then mount messages then nothing.  Ctlc-C presents console login, I login, see mounts, but when I try to look at log
[06:54] <teubank>  files, screen goes blank -- similar to failing boot.  Root console does not seem to have same problem.  How should I approach this problem?
[06:55] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: there are two dowloads you need, the vbox and the extentions, the usb issue will be solved
[06:55] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: I hope so, thank you... let me try.
[06:56] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: you might also look at tvhead? for watching live tv via card , linux even
[06:56] <almoxarife> !tvhead
[06:57] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: wrong app name, forgot the name
[06:58] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: Okay, thank you.
[06:58] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: no, actually that is correct, xbmc with tvhead
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> teubank: what video chip do you use?
[06:59] <Ascavasaion> Thank you almoxarife
[07:00] <teubank> Intel 4000 I think.
[07:00] <nick_h> call me an idiot, but how do i add this PPA to apt? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick
[07:01] <nick_h> i've tried "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:+source/imagemagick", "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:source/imagemagick", and "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu/imagemagick"
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> teubank: tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> nick_h: imagemagick is in the repos...
[07:02] <whatwhat> is there a media center in ubuntu ?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> nick_h: what are you trying to do?
[07:02] <whatwhat> like the one in ms
[07:02] <nick_h> ActionParsnip: yeah, but i need a newer version
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> whatwhat: there is xbmc as well as others
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> nick_h: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[07:03] <nick_h> ActionParsnip: precise
[07:05] <teubank> I added nomodeset to linux line & pressed F10.  Started to boot, then blank screen.
[07:07] <teubank> This is a very fast laptop (boot to gui login < 12sec)  How do I slow things down or step trough the boot process?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> nick_h: not seeing any precise ppas for 6.8 imagemagick
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> teubank: you can read:  dmesg | less
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> teubank: if you log in at cli then stop the lightdm service, then start it. Is it ok?
[07:12] <teubank> ActionParsnip: recovery mode, root shell: yes.  What should I look for?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> teubank: `also read:   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:14] <whatwhat> is ubuntu tv a software ?
[07:14] <Evil_Eric> it can be
[07:14] <whatwhat> for tv tuner card
[07:15] <nick_h> ActionParsnip: hm, that's too bad. i'll have to compile it myself
[07:15] <whatwhat> what's the best ubuntu app for tv tuner
[07:15] <nick_h> ActionParsnip: thanks or checking
[07:16] <Evil_Eric> haupage cards are normaly supported with no issues and vlc is what i used to use for a app for watching tv
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> whatwhat: there is no single best app, for anything
[07:18] <whatwhat> vlc ?
[07:18] <whatwhat> how to use vlc for watching tv ?
[07:18] <blackshirt> i have no idea :d
[07:18] <whatwhat> is that vlc media player
[07:18] <Evil_Eric> goto the preferances and select your tunner then tune into the frequency you wanna watch
[07:19] <whatwhat> evil , i dont see no option for tv tuner selection
[07:20] <Evil_Eric> hold on ill see if i can find you a step by step guide to help you out
[07:23] <Evil_Eric> i found something but its not real clear
[07:26] <flowerld> hi
[07:27] <albatr055> new ubuntu user here...  who wants to help me get my crappy usb wireless adapter to work?  its a Ralink RT73 chip set
[07:28] <teubank> ActionParsnip: If I login as me, seems to crash about a minute later.
[07:29] <teubank> As root, I mounted /var partition, am looking at Xorg.0.log.  What should I look for?
[07:34] <cheesecakes>  how do i change whether password is asked on login
[07:35] <teubank> ActionParsnip: Xorg.0.log, last 4 lines: VESA driver; kms mode;  FBDEV: driver for framebuffer fbdev; using VT number 7.
[07:36] <cheesecakes> i got it nvm
[07:36] <cheesecakes> but it stillhas the bug where it forgets your password
[07:36] <almoxarife> xbmc
[07:44] <maujhsn> http://pastebin.com/hqwJ4zhr These files are in my /home folder they are colored red how do I delete or remove them from the folder?
[07:46] <cheesecakes> ok what i thought would help didnt
[07:46] <cheesecakes> i am using gdm
[07:46] <cheesecakes> how do i make ggdm ask my password when i am logging in
[07:46] <autolycus> anyone knows how I can download a file from a website from my command line
[07:46] <autolycus> its a zip file
[07:47] <cheesecakes> autolycus: wget <link to file>
[07:48] <autolycus> cheesecakes thanks
[07:48] <cheesecakes> np
[07:48] <nick_h> how does one install a package from a previous version of ubuntu?
[07:49] <cheesecakes> nick_h: do you mean an older version of the package?
[07:49] <nick_h> cheesecakes: yeah
[07:49] <autolycus> can we unzip a file on ubuntu?
[07:49] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: what package are you asking?
[07:49] <autolycus> its a zip file
[07:49] <nick_h> cheesecakes: but the version of the package isn't in the version of Ubuntu that i'm running
[07:49] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: imagemagick from oneiric-updates
[07:49] <mysteriousdarren> autolycus: yes right click and unzip
[07:50] <Guest10005> ubuntu offtopic ad
[07:50] <mysteriousdarren> autolycus: yes, wait do you have a app installed to unzip things?
[07:51] <autolycus> nope
[07:51] <cheesecakes> start nautilus and double click it
[07:51] <autolycus> I am in terminal
[07:51] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: search for a newer one, if not do it. I'm checking/
[07:51] <maujhsn> These files are in my /home folder they are colored red how do I delete or remove them from the folder? http://pastebin.com/hqwJ4zhr
[07:52] <cheesecakes> autolycus: unzip filename
[07:53] <mysteriousdarren> cheesecakes: +1
[07:53] <cheesecakes> maujhsn: rm pulse*
[07:54] <cheesecakes> assuming nothing worth keeping starts with pulse
[07:54] <cheesecakes> and you are in your home directory
[07:55] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: 8:<IP_ADDRESS>-5ubuntu3.2
[07:56] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: yeah, that's the version i'm trying to avoid. there's a bug in that version of ImageMagick that's biting me
[07:56] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: what bug are you avoiding?
[07:57] <cheesecakes> nick_h: maybe they host older versions
[07:57] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: it's been fixed in ImageMagick 6.7.8-8 , but compiling ImageMagick with all of its deps and delegates and whatnot is an unbelievable pain in the ass
[07:57] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21558
[07:57] <cheesecakes> the developers maybe hosting debs
[07:57] <nick_h> cheesecakes: ImageMagick releases RPMs, but not DEBs
[07:57] <cheesecakes> ahhh
[07:58] <nick_h> cheesecakes: i used alien to convert an RPM to a DEB, but...it's alien
[07:58] <maujhsn> cheesecakes Pulseaudio and its dependecies were extracted, configured, & compiled in home/pulse-1.0.1...so removing the files from /home is ok right?
[07:58] <mysteriousdarren> yes I see your problem.....and alien is alien :(
[07:58] <cheesecakes> nick_h: compile
[07:58] <nick_h> cheesecakes: yeah, i think that's what i'll have to do. ugh
[07:59] <cheesecakes> maujhsn: have you installed everything and you dont need these those things right ?
[07:59] <cheesecakes> or maybe just to be safe why not move them to a folder just in case
[07:59] <mysteriousdarren> i agree. but isn't there a beta out there with it fixed?
[08:00] <cheesecakes> using mkdir pulseaudiofiles && cp pulse* pulseaudiofiles