[12:00] <Fordprefect> thanks guys thats cure the problem, I have used hedgehog for so long I forgot
[12:00] <TedLemon> oewyn: gnome is probably getting your wireless card's IP address.
[12:00] <TedLemon> oewyn: but I haven't looked at the code, so I can't say for sure - you'll just have to try.   :'}
[12:00] <sunshine82> i dont know what ot do i need to access internet baknkin
[12:00] <Oewyn> TedLemon: Okay thanks, brb gonna try it now
[12:00] <TedLemon> oewyn:cool
[12:01] <mojo> :D
[12:01] <Fordprefect> the wireless tools are much better these days
[12:02] <GMachine_24> i know this is very basic, but what can i use to listen to .mp3 files?
[12:02] <sunshine82> help please
[12:02] <paddel> hello..
[12:02] <GMachine_24> hello
[12:02] <Fordprefect> thansk guys for the help
[12:02] <Fordprefect> bye for now
[12:02] <paddel> i have a problem, i have updated my breezy ..to breezy badger...its all done...
[12:03] <paddel> but theres a problem, before i've made the update, i had the grub bootloader installed, and there was a config for my xp hdd..
[12:03] <Coburn> ciao
[12:03] <sunshine82> help please
[12:03] <Coburn> ho bisogno di un aiuto
[12:03] <Coburn> sorry
[12:03] <epk> GMachine_24, sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:03] <paddel> but breezy badger update, has deleted this config, i've seen in breezy before, that there was a GUI to install it again -.-
[12:03] <GMachine_24> what do you need sunshine?
[12:03] <paddel> but in breezy badger i cant find it o_O
[12:04] <GMachine_24> i have xmms epk but it doesn't seem to want to play mp3s
[12:05] <nalioth> sunshine82: when did it start doing these things?
[12:05] <jvai> rythymbox play mp3's fine.. well, on hoary anywayz
[12:05] <Oewyn> TedLemon: tried setting my ip address in hosts as . but same problem.... hrmm...
[12:05] <TedLemon> oewyn: sorry.   :'(
[12:05] <GMachine_24> rhythmbox?
[12:06] <jvai> yes.. i dl'ed some mp3s awhile ago.. rythymbox opened them up
[12:06] <Coburn> how i can install package in ubuntu downloading from an internet point and then put in a pendrive????
[12:06] <kevogod> !mp3
[12:06] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[12:06] <Coburn> i have a slowly connection in my home
[12:06] <GMachine_24> ty ubotu
[12:06] <Oewyn> brb
[12:07] <beegor> i tried to compile some modem drivers, but I got a message that I don't have linux sources installed, how to install them?
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> anyone herre playing quake4 on breezy have problems with ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open?
[12:08] <jvai> i see "eth1" listed now for wifi.. today, aftr using eth0 for eons to get on witrelessly.. this is odd, maybe now i can go to starbucks & be able to get on
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> no such file...
[12:08] <jvai> & i'm on hoary still
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> but its there..
[12:09] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1 exisits
[12:10] <GamanaAm> hi
[12:10] <cesar> helo!!
[12:10] <GamanaAm> after "apt-get install gcc-3.4 cpp-3.4 make" i get "gcc not found", any ideas?
[12:10] <jvai> oi!
[12:10] <cesar> how can i mount a usb disk?
[12:10] <sunshine82> nalioth well i aptget install camstream a few days ago and debiam came into application i though it was fro camstream only but it had everything in it mplayer internet everything which made it seem odd then i though i uninstall camstream and it went away but it seem to come back when it ready
[12:11] <darkheart> GamanaAm Did you 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'?
[12:11] <nalioth> sunshine82: where did you install it from?
[12:11] <Oewyn> okay, how about this question then... is there anyway to have a script run as root when you log on to Gnome, i know it has to do something with chmod #### and the first # is the effective level that this script is run at?
[12:11] <GamanaAm> darkheart, oh! i forgot "build-essential"
[12:11] <sunshine82> nalioth i just aptget install camstream in terminal i dont recall download anything else could my ports be openor something
[12:11] <ivan> hi, should the password of loging in as super user be the same as the one I used to login to OS?
[12:12] <darkheart> GamanaAm If you are building things, you'll want that package. Your problem, though, is probably that the binary installed for gcc-3.4 is actually called '/usr/bin/gcc-3.4' and not symlinked to '/usr/bin/gcc'
[12:12] <Oewyn> ivan: i believe it's the first login you created w/ ubuntu
[12:12] <Oewyn> that password
[12:12] <sunshine82> nalioth what does it sound like
[12:12] <nalioth> sunshine82: i suspect you have not noticed your 'debian' menu before (we all have it)
[12:12] <cafuego> nalioth: I don't have one.
[12:13] <ivan> I do not think I did any operation like that
[12:13] <ivan> or should I do it know in the terminal?
[12:13] <nalioth> cafuego: hmph. that's funny
[12:14] <Cambo> Hi,
[12:14] <Cambo> Does anyone know how to change the default mail delivery method?
[12:14] <Cambo> I need to get it to forward to an external host....
[12:14] <sunshine82> nalioth im new to all this i notice everything im tellin ya it wasnt there before ever i've been on ubuntu for 2 months now it wasnt there when i was on hoary and it wasnt there when i got on breezy it just called debian application>debian then u could choose the same stuff that in sound internet etc
[12:14] <GamanaAm> darkheart, oh i see. from debian i was used to the fact that such a symlink is created automatically. the same goes for cpp?
[12:14] <jjesse> anyone know how to install lex and yacc on ubuntu, using ubuntu breezy server
[12:15] <jvai> go to the "edit" part of evolution, clik your default mail account, far right u can toggle it on & off
[12:15] <ivan> eh...how can I log in as a super user if I do not remember whatever password that I created w/ ubuntu
[12:15] <sunshine82> nalioth why does application need an area to access the same thing as the other topicd
[12:15] <jvai> i cant seem to send mail, thru gmail!
[12:16] <nalioth> sunshine82: there are lots of duplications in the menus
[12:16] <nalioth> cafuego: sunshine82: in all my ubuntu boxen i have a 'debian' menu
[12:16] <Tido> how do you run a .run? :P
[12:16] <n0odl3> does anyone use bbrb?
[12:16] <jenda> Tido: sudo sh blah.run
[12:17] <sunshine82> nalioth how can i check to see if it safe check my ports
[12:17] <djib> any one of you knows of uses cream ?
[12:17] <ivan>  eh...how can I log in as a super user if I do not remember whatever password that I created w/ ubuntu
[12:17] <h4zn> how does one install macromedia flash and shockwave player?
[12:17] <sunshine82> nalioth it not that i dont believe u but i need to use internet bankin and i need to make sure my computer is safe
[12:17] <nalioth> sunshine82: i'm not sure how to check your ports, but if your computer is shutting off by itself, i'd certainly run memtest for a day or so
[12:17] <ivan> I will not be able to install anything if I cannot log in as a super users, even though I reinstall the Unbuntu os
[12:17] <john_> hi, how do i mount my mp3 player? its a Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra
[12:17] <Coburn> how i can install packege in ubuntu , downloading from an internet point and then put in my pen drive ?????
[12:18] <nalioth> sunshine82: because it could be bad memory or your computer is overheating
[12:18] <epk> ivan, try recovery mode on startup
[12:18] <h4zn> how does one install macromedia flash and shockwave player?
[12:18] <Coburn> i have slowly computer
[12:19] <Belutz> ubotu, tell h4zn about flash
[12:19] <Coburn> sorry i have slowly connection i cant download wine for example
[12:19] <ivan> okay
[12:19] <cevizoglu> does netboot on ubuntu use tftp?
[12:19] <ivan> thanks a lot
[12:19] <djib> ivan, even if you loose your root password you still can change it
[12:20] <ivan> djib, how though?
[12:20] <Seven> !nvidia
[12:20] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:20] <djib> h4zn have you enabled universe et multiverse
[12:20] <Coburn> yes  ihave
[12:20] <ivan> by using the recovery mode?
[12:20] <cafuego> Coburn: Have a look at the 'apt-zip' command.
[12:21] <B|4ckm0r3> what about aptsh?
[12:21] <tellnes> hey all, just a little question, im running the latest ubuntu, installing ennemy teritorry, i have no sound in game, anyone know what sound system/plugin i might try?
[12:21] <djib> ivan, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#changerootpasswordforgotten
[12:21] <cafuego> Coburn: Or, if you download from somewhere else, the 'apt-move' command.
[12:21] <Coburn> yes but how i know the dipendencies
[12:21] <dseomn> where should dapper main bugs be submitted? launchpad or bugzilla?
[12:21] <ivan> djlib, thanks a lots
[12:22] <djib> Coburn, then go in synaptics and look for flash
[12:22] <cafuego> Coburn: You can only do that my checking the Package file manually.
[12:22] <djib> you will find somthing called flashplugin-nonfree Coburn
[12:22] <djib> this is what you want
[12:22] <cafuego> Coburn: packages.ubuntu.com would list them for each package.
[12:22] <Coburn> thanks dear friends
[12:22] <B|4ckm0r3> djib:  i found it buggy...i think the official www.macromedia.com plugin runs smoother
[12:23] <Coburn> and W ubuntu
[12:23] <djib> B|4ckm0r3, it's the same one, it's downloaded directly from www.macromedia.com ^^
[12:23] <B|4ckm0r3> ah ok!
[12:23] <n0odl3> h4zn you should be able to get the macromedia plugin through firefox
[12:23] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to build source code?
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> someone please priv msg cat me /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:23] <Coburn> great land new zeland cafuego
[12:24] <dabaR> n0odl3: yes, all programers here do.
[12:24] <dabaR> n0odl3: do you want to learn about building programs from source code?
[12:24] <daved> what can i use to play midi files?
[12:24] <djib> timidity
[12:24] <KinkoBlast> What's a good way to run DOS programs on Linux?
[12:24] <n0odl3> dabaR: yes i do
[12:25] <djib> if you dont have a midi card Daved
[12:25] <jenda> KinkoBlast: I've heard of FreeDOS
[12:25] <djib> Kingbahamut, dosbox
[12:25] <dseomn> KinkoBlast: wine
[12:25] <n0odl3> dabaR: oh by the way im really liking openbox
[12:25] <jenda> KinkoBlast: But wine's prolly better
[12:25] <KinkoBlast> jenda: FreeDOS is a whole other OS.
[12:25] <Oewyn> How do you make a script run with special permissions (ie run the script as the owner <root>)i thought it was chmod #### where the first number was the effective level, but maybe i'm wrong.
[12:25] <KinkoBlast> I thought Wine did the windows API, not DOS?
[12:26] <djib> no one uses cream ?
[12:26] <dseomn> KinkoBlast: I tried to run an old (works fine on DOS 5.30) game under wine and it worked
[12:26] <dabaR> n0odl3: do you want to learn about a particular package, or a generral overview of the process?
[12:26] <sunshine82> nalioth how did i get bad memory
[12:26] <dseomn> KinkoBlast: it started as w16 (3.1) and still supports 16bit progs
[12:26] <nalioth> sunshine82: you may not have bad memory, but it is one thing to check
[12:26] <jenda> KinkoBlast: I know - I think there's a way to run it in Linux, but nevermind - Wine is the solution, or DOSbox
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> please copy and paste me the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:26] <n0odl3> dabaR: well you see i got this program called torsmo but i need to compile the source code
[12:27] <n0odl3> dabaR: so i guess a general over view?
[12:27] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: did you try searching for a "dos emulator" in name and description through synaptic?
[12:27] <Seven> !nvidia
[12:27] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:27] <KinkoBlast> dabaR:No, Synaptic takes ages to start.
[12:27] <tellnes> hey all, just a little question, im running the latest ubuntu, installing ennemy teritorry, i have no sound in game, anyone know what sound system/plugin i might try?
[12:27] <dabaR> n0odl3: I would, looking at the situation think that you want to learn how to build torsmo from source code, right?
[12:27] <sunshine82> nalioth how did i check for bad memory
[12:27] <nalioth> jenda: erm 'dosemu' emulates DOS
[12:27] <voth> how well is the Dell Wireless 1450 (a/b/g) Dual-Band WLAN miniPCI Card supported under Breezy ?
[12:27] <avinoam> Hey guys- I have a USB disk that seems to have corrupted data, and now ubuntu won't read it... is there a way to format it?
[12:28] <nalioth> sunshine82: when you boot your machine, at the grub prompt you will see "memtest86" or something like that
[12:28] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: use apt-cache search?
[12:28] <dseomn> avinoam: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:28] <KinkoBlast> apt-cache search?
[12:28] <n0odl3> dabaR: yes
[12:28] <dseomn> KinkoBlast: from the terminal
[12:28] <dabaR> n0odl3: well, what version do you have?
[12:28] <jvai> shyt.. i lucked up on an orinoco gold.. on an ibm 600x
[12:28] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: try apt-cache search dos, or something.
[12:29] <djib> daved,  did you work it out ?
[12:29] <GamanaAm> weird. when i start admin tools, i get "wrong password" when i enter the pass for root, and when i enter the pass for my user, the application just closes. any ideas?
[12:29] <TestDummy> Hey, is there any sort of thing for Gnome that can pick a random background at a certain time interval?
[12:29] <avinoam> dseomn, it doesn't give me an option to format
[12:29] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: looking at the output, dosemu looks ok to try...
[12:29] <KinkoBlast> Thankls dabaR
[12:29] <zer0> how can i echo a line followed by 2 newlines (bash)? something like  echo "blah\n\n" ?
[12:29] <dabaR> KinkoBlast: its nothing - $20.
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> echo -n maybe i dont know
[12:30] <KinkoBlast> The check should be in your mail box :-P
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> or just echo twice afterwards
[12:30] <dseomn> avinoam: you have to go to the partitions tab
[12:30] <dabaR> zero use '
[12:30] <n0odl3> dabaR: I have breezy (5.10)
[12:30] <dabaR> n0odl3: what version of torsmo?
[12:30] <avinoam> dseomn, i did, it won't let me do anything
[12:30] <avinoam> dseomn, i'm in kubuntu
[12:31] <dseomn> avinoam: is it mounted? I think it won't let you format a mounted partition
[12:31] <avinoam> dseomn, says that there aren't any partitions on the disk
[12:31] <avinoam> dseomn, no
[12:31] <dseomn> avinoam: ok, go to the partitions tab and click create
[12:32] <avinoam> dseomn, that's what i'm trying to say, i can't click there- it's shaded grey
[12:32] <Fred> hey, what's the command to completely erase an external usb2 harddisk?
[12:32] <dseomn> avinoam: ok, sry, I thought you meant the format button was greyed
[12:32] <cafuego> Fred: easiest is 'mkfs'; format the whole thing.
[12:33] <Fred> thanks cafuego. does it need to be mounted first? if so, how do i do that?
[12:33] <avinoam> dseomn, so what do i do?
[12:33] <dseomn> avinoam: sounds like the drive is broken, you said it doesn't work anywhere?
[12:33] <cafuego> Fred: No, you don't need to mount it to format it.
[12:33] <dseomn> avinoam: are you familiar with opening a computer?
[12:33] <avinoam> dseomn, it's a usb disk!
[12:33] <dabaR> you actually need to unmount it:)
[12:33] <Fred> cafuego: ok thanks. what would be the path to it... like /dev/....
[12:34] <avinoam> dseomn, on key
[12:34] <iceman_> Besides Kde - gnome - xfce .. what other desktops are there for ubuntu
[12:34] <cafuego> Fred: No idea :-)
[12:34] <avinoam> dseomn, i did what cafuego said
[12:34] <Fred> ok thanks then
[12:34] <cevizoglu> on newworld PPC's, do you still need a separate bootstrap partition to dual-boot mac and ubuntu?
[12:34] <TestDummy> iceman_: Fluxbox? :o
[12:34] <cafuego> Fred: Try this: System -> Administration -> Disks -> Click the disk, choose the Partitions tab.
[12:35] <avinoam> dseomn, don't think that worked though
[12:35] <nalioth> iceman_: dozens of desktops are available
[12:35] <iceman_> nalioth where to find a list ?
[12:35] <dseomn> avinoam: so is it a memory stick or an external hard disk?
[12:35] <Fred> thanks cafuego :D
[12:35] <avinoam> dseomn, disk on key
[12:36] <iceman_> can you Apt-get flux box ....
[12:36] <xfelon> is ubuntu based off of debain?
[12:36] <dseomn> avinoam: ok, I to me disk = hard disk, not key, sry; I have no idea what to do
[12:36] <nalioth> iceman_: use synaptic
[12:36] <dseomn> xfelon: yes
[12:36] <avinoam> dseomn, let';s see, there seems to be a lost+found on the disk
[12:36] <xfelon> cool
[12:36] <avinoam> but it's locked!
[12:37] <dseomn> avinoam: it should be
[12:37] <avinoam> dseomn, how do i delete what's in there?
[12:37] <dseomn> are you familiar w/ the terminal?
[12:37] <avinoam> dseomn, yeah i formatted from there
[12:37] <djib> good  night
[12:37] <hamms> list
[12:37] <avinoam> dseomn, i couldn't cd into there, even with sudo
[12:37] <dseomn> avinoam: don't get rid of it, it's for fsck
[12:37] <avinoam> dseomn, i want to be able to read this disk on windows also
[12:37] <hamms> any know of a 64bit room?
[12:38] <dseomn> avinoam: cd is a shell builtin, you can't use it with sudo
[12:38] <avinoam> sorry about the W word
[12:38] <NightLord> does anyone know what i can use to play mp3s in rhythmbox, which can be gotten from the universal repositories?
[12:38] <dseomn> avinoam: then you need to use fat32
[12:38] <dseomn> avinoam: use "mkfs.vfat /dev/partition"
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> is there any way to view an ongoing ssh session
[12:39] <Fred> cafuego: there is no disks thing in system->admin :S
[12:39] <dseomn> ColonelKernel: if you control both ends, you can use screen, otherwise, the best you can do is strace (which will only help if your a programmer)
[12:39] <hamms> OK, here is my problem.... I can boot ubuntu 5.10 amd64 generic kernel noproblem, after i install SMP verion of kernel I cannot access my network card.... anyone have any ideas?
[12:40] <xfelon> can anyone help me install xmms
[12:40] <avinoam> dseomn, crap i can't unmount it now
[12:40] <xfelon> or xmms2 or wahtever?
[12:40] <Discipulus> xfelon, apt-get install xmms
[12:40] <dseomn> avinoam: cd out of the mountpoint and use "sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint"
[12:40] <NightLord> anyone?
[12:40] <xfelon> Discipulus what do i need to download?
[12:40] <Discipulus> xfelon, type apt-get install xmms
[12:41] <xfelon> i havent downloaded it
[12:41] <dseomn> NightLord: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:41] <NightLord> cool
[12:41] <xfelon> i dont see .tar.gz
[12:41] <xfelon> or wahtever
[12:41] <Discipulus> xfelon, that program will download it
[12:41] <dseomn> NightLord: it might not be legal in your country though
[12:41] <Discipulus> and install it
[12:41] <Discipulus> for you
[12:41] <NightLord> uk
[12:41] <avinoam> dseomn, crap i can't unmount it now
[12:41] <xfelon> oh really?
[12:41] <xfelon> i type that in xterm?
[12:41] <dseomn> NightLord: dunno, sry
[12:41] <NightLord> is it illegal in the uk?
[12:41] <avinoam> dseomn, woops ok i got it
[12:41] <avinoam> dseomn, mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[12:41] <NightLord> sod it
[12:41] <avinoam> /dev/sda: No such file or directory
[12:41] <Discipulus> xfelon, you type 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[12:41] <NightLord> I don't have illegal music here
[12:41] <Discipulus> or 'sudo apt-get install xmms2'
[12:41] <Discipulus> or whatever
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> is apt-get for kernel linux-image or kernel-image in ubuntu?
[12:41] <dseomn> NightLord: it's a patent issue, not copyright
[12:42] <NightLord> bur[n] er I doubt it, but use the CVS
[12:42] <xfelon> lol wtf
[12:42] <dabaR> n0odl3: did you answer my last q ever?
[12:42] <xfelon> so terminal downlaods it for me?
[12:42] <bur[n] er> NightLord: why cvs?
[12:42] <n0odl3> dabaR: sorry i was trying to download it
[12:42] <dseomn> avinoam: it should be /dev/sda1 or something, not /dev/sda
[12:42] <walkerlechip> hello
[12:42] <NightLord> its easier in my opinion
[12:42] <n0odl3> dabaR: i dont know im timed out from the server but can you just explain the general process?
[12:42] <walkerlechip>  y a t'il des francais ?
[12:42] <avinoam> dseomn, woops
[12:42] <dseomn> !es
[12:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:42] <bur[n] er> NightLord: uhh... i want a stable codebase though ;)
[12:42] <Blake_Seven> Quick ? When I first login I get a message saying I have 1 messahe waiting. How do I view that message?
[12:42] <walkerlechip> les franciasvenez en pv svp :)
[12:43] <dseomn> !fr
[12:43] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[12:43] <walkerlechip> ouais
[12:43] <hamms> ANY one know of a SMP amd 64 bit tutorial
[12:43] <hamms> ?
[12:43] <avinoam> dseomn, yeah it is sda
[12:43] <walkerlechip>  nan besoin d'aide :)
[12:43] <dabaR> n0odl3: my question was what version of torsmo you are looking at installing.
[12:43] <xfelon> Discipulus i did that, now what?
[12:43] <NetDreamz> how do you "su" to change the permissions of a folder?
[12:43] <nalioth> dabaR: torsmo is dead. conky is the resurrection
[12:43] <avinoam> dseomn, i think i might have it
[12:43] <Discipulus> NetDreamz, sudo
[12:43] <tehdot> how do you check which display you're currently using? display 0.0, etc
[12:43] <Discipulus> xfelon, now it's installed
[12:44] <n0odl3> dabaR; .18
[12:44] <NightLord> bur[n] er: CVS is generally pretty stable anyway
[12:44] <Ekibyougami> oops
[12:44] <bur[n] er> NightLord: you follow rhythmbox devel?
[12:44] <Ekibyougami> i do so hate the wireless on off button being on the front of this laptop
[12:44] <NightLord> ope
[12:44] <Fred> cafuego: there is no disks thing in system->admin :S
[12:44] <nalioth> n0odl3: use conky instead. it's current, and based on what torsmo was
[12:44] <targetx> Ok this is driving me nuts. I legally own the game Doom 3 and I cannot get it to work on my computer (Quake 4 works fine) cause Doom 3 does NOT accept my cd key.. Could someone please help me?
[12:44] <n0odl3> nalioth: thank you
[12:45] <jenda> nalioth: I have a problem with my own 686 kernel now. I probably need to reinstall the NVIDIA driver, but the NVIDIA installer can't find my kernel source
[12:45] <avinoam> dseomn, i'm gonna go into W to see if this works
[12:45] <bur[n] er> targetx: that's an issue for www.idsoftware.com I think
[12:45] <NetDreamz> ok, how do I allow the root user to be able to login?
[12:45] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: try typing 'mail' in a terminal
[12:45] <n0odl3> naltioth: do you know how to get backgrounds on openbox. or a good program to do it with?
[12:45] <dseomn> avinoam: good luck
[12:45] <NightLord> bur[n] er: why? is there anything interesting going on with it?
[12:45] <hamms> sudo passwd root
[12:45] <bur[n] er> !tell NetDreamz about sudo
[12:45] <targetx> bur[n] er, why? linux version is unsupported
[12:45] <bur[n] er> targetx: it is?  i didn't realize
[12:45] <walkerlechip> j'ai un gros kiki
[12:45] <bur[n] er> NightLord: u said it's stable
[12:45] <nalioth> jenda: use synaptic to find and install it
[12:45] <Blake_Seven> bash: Mail: command not found
[12:46] <targetx> bur[n] er, yeah it's sad.. it USED to work though (on my ARch Linux instalation)
[12:46] <NetDreamz> I want to login to xwindows with the root user
[12:46] <xfelon> how do i close a frozen program?
[12:46] <NetDreamz> not just terminal
[12:46] <targetx> xkill
[12:46] <NightLord> I said CVS' in general are stable
[12:46] <dseomn> Blake_Seven: it should be 'mail' not 'Mail'
[12:46] <targetx> Blake_Seven, case matters
[12:46] <hobbz> Anyone experience a problem with "Lock Screen" under Hoary?
[12:46] <bur[n] er> NightLord: rrrrrrrrrrrrright
[12:46] <hamms> ps -ax |grep prog
[12:46] <hamms> kill -9 pid offrozenprog
[12:46] <NightLord> just because they aren't official releases, doesn't mean that theres anything wrong with them
[12:46] <n0odl3> nalioth: are you fimiliar with using openbox?
[12:46] <targetx> killall -9 nameofprog
[12:46] <Blake_Seven> Thanks but 'mail' is what I typed... no joy
[12:47] <bur[n] er> NightLord: new features... new bugs... new dependencies... etc.
[12:47] <targetx> Blake_Seven, no you typed Mail
[12:47] <jenda> nalioth: I think I have it installed, but I now found that synaptic can offer the precompiled module.
[12:47] <hamms> I WISH SOMEONE WOULD FIX 64 BIT SMP KERNEL
[12:47] <vertz> Hi, where can i find a nice sources.list?
[12:47] <targetx> hamms, we all have wishes. No use for upper case
[12:47] <hamms> lol
[12:47] <NightLord> meh
[12:47] <Blake_Seven> oh sorry
[12:47] <hamms> yea i know
[12:47] <walkerlechip> tu suces des pines ?
[12:47] <hamms> sniffle..
[12:47] <nalioth> n0odl3: no sir
[12:47] <walkerlechip> qui suce des pines ici ?
[12:47] <nalioth> walkerlechip: may we help you in english?
[12:47] <rsosborn> hello all
[12:48] <n0odl3> thank you
[12:48] <rsosborn> I need some help if someone doesn't mind giving a noob a hand
[12:48] <Blake_Seven> what else should I try or is there a referance I can view ?
[12:48] <walkerlechip> yes but my english is very bad :)
[12:48] <jenda> walkerlechip: je peut t'aider en francais
[12:48] <n0odl3> dabaR; sorry but i decided to use conky because for some reason im timed out from torsmo
[12:48] <walkerlechip> oo
[12:48] <KangooSport> hello everyone
[12:48] <n0odl3> dabaR: thank you anyway
[12:48] <Mr_Milenko> uh oh
[12:48] <rsosborn> When I install something in symatic manager I can't find it after I install it so I can run the program
[12:48] <hamms> dd if=/dev/zero of=/drivewithubuntu bs=1024M
[12:48] <nalioth> thats what i thought
[12:48] <rsosborn> I refreshed gnome
[12:48] <rsosborn> thinking that might help
[12:48] <rsosborn> does anyone have any ideas
[12:49] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: what app?
[12:49] <rsosborn> c++ complier
[12:49] <hamms> try ----------        rm -rf /
[12:49] <dabaR> n0odl3: both programs are in ubuntu.
[12:49] <jenda> nalioth: why did you ban walkerlechip?
[12:49] <rsosborn> I think its G++ is what its called
[12:49] <Mr_Milenko> nalioth
[12:49] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: and you're looking for a gui for it?
[12:49] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: there isn't one
[12:49] <rsosborn> oh
[12:49] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: it's a terminal based app
[12:49] <rsosborn> do I just go in the terminal and cl file.cpp ?
[12:50] <NightLord> can anyone recommend a good linux alternative to cubase?
[12:50] <vertz> HI! i have two problems, first i cant use "!" infront of commands in the terminal, and the other is that i cant find a good list of mirrors with programs on.. anyone?!
[12:50] <Fred> whats the terminal command to run a GUI-disk checker/formatter? there isnt one in any menu i can find :(
[12:50] <NightLord> vertz: use apt-get to install programs from
[12:50] <nalioth> jenda: if i'm not mistaken, walkerlechip was being very nasty
[12:50] <dseomn> NightLord: what does cubase do?
[12:50] <vertz> NightLord: yeah but i need to add some mirrors in the sources.list
[12:50] <NightLord> sequencer
[12:50] <NightLord> just uncomment  the universal repositories
[12:51] <NightLord> it has most of what you need
[12:51] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: gcc file.c app   (also use "man gcc" for the gcc manual)
[12:51] <jenda> nalioth: OK, got it now
[12:51] <kbrooks> hamms: who are you?
[12:51] <SP> HEy
[12:51] <SP> Hey*
[12:51] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: type 'man mail' for reference
[12:51] <hamms> I am me why?
[12:51] <rsosborn> so gcc is the command to complile
[12:51] <rsosborn> got ya
[12:51] <SP> I am having trouble with sound on Hoary...
[12:51] <rsosborn> thank you so much for your help
[12:51] <rsosborn> I'm new to linux and programming
[12:51] <rsosborn> so I'm trying to learn both in linux and windows
[12:51] <rsosborn> to be dynamic
[12:52] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: good call... research gtk when you go gui then... it's cross-platform (although qt 4 should be as well)
[12:52] <vertz> NightLord: not all i need : \
[12:52] <rsosborn> I will do
[12:52] <rsosborn> thanks
[12:52] <rsosborn> again
[12:52] <Blake_Seven> drewbie: no man mail referance... Have I installed properly I wonder
[12:52] <NightLord> well what you need?
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> please copy and paste me the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:52] <pooh__> anyone wanna help a newbie?
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> private msg me
[12:52] <vertz> NightLord: azureus now, and some more crap
[12:52] <nalioth> pooh__: i you ask a question
[12:53] <SP> I asked one, to busy :(
[12:53] <SP> Lol
[12:53] <NightLord> well, azureus is easy, just search for "Azureus .deb" on google
[12:53] <pooh__> i'm trying to install sharpmusique
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> bitchx users can /q lsuactiafner     and    /exec -o cat /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:53] <NightLord> woo! MP3s in rhythm box ^_^
[12:53] <vertz> NightLord: i used to install it from apt.. but i lost my sources.list
[12:53] <pooh__> .deb file doesn't seem to open in archive mgr
[12:53] <bur[n] er> good work NightLord
[12:54] <NightLord> now i need a sequencer
[12:54] <bur[n] er> pooh__: to install it... "gksudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"
[12:54] <bur[n] er> bah
[12:54] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: you should have mail with a default install
[12:54] <rsosborn> hey burner
[12:54] <bur[n] er> pooh__: "xterm -e sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"
[12:54] <rsosborn> another dumb question
[12:54] <rsosborn> lol
[12:54] <rsosborn> sorry bro
[12:54] <bur[n] er> !enter
[12:54] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:54] <bur[n] er> ;)
[12:54] <luisito> anyone has had problems using k3b with gnome interface like unusual failed burnings?
[12:54] <NightLord> xvidtune doesn't work in breezy :\
[12:55] <rsosborn> when writting code is it different than how I would difine it in windows
[12:55] <pooh__> thanks. i'll try that
[12:55] <bur[n] er> luisito: nope... check bugzilla?
[12:55] <bur[n] er> rsosborn: not really at the "basic" level
[12:55] <rsosborn> /c++ Program
[12:55] <rsosborn> /Richard S. Osborn
[12:55] <rsosborn> #include <iostream>
[12:55] <rsosborn> using namespace std;
[12:55] <rsosborn> int main ()
[12:55] <luisito> bur[n] er, bugzilla is for burn?
[12:55] <rsosborn> {
[12:55] <Blake_Seven> I installed breezy using the default install
[12:55] <rsosborn> cout << "Hello World" << endl;
[12:55] <rsosborn> return 0;
[12:55] <bur[n] er> !paste
[12:55] <rsosborn> }
[12:55] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:55] <hamms> I have a basic question....
[12:55] <rsosborn> so this should complie
[12:56] <Falstius> liba52 seems to crash the apt version of mplayer on my amd64 machine.. any suggestions? (I've got mplayer compiling in the background now)
[12:56] <bur[n] er> :)
[12:56] <bur[n] er> luisito: bugzilla is for everything... bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <Fred> is there a GUI disk formatter? i cant find one but someone said there was one...
[12:57] <luisito> bur[n] er, i'll check thanks
[12:57] <hamms> me and bugzilla never get along.... I think it is co-dependancy
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> Falstius : cvs mplayer is better, developers recommend it... though current cvs is broken today.. might have been fixed already
[12:57] <ufc> hey is there eny good video ripper that I can but my clips to xvid?
[12:57] <NightLord> also, any plugins for wmas in rhythmbox?
[12:57] <bimberi> Fred: Apps -> System Tools -> Floppy Formatter
[12:57] <SEJeff> ufc: I think thoggen will do that
[12:57] <Fred> bimberi: i need to format a harddrive, not floppy
[12:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NightLord about w32codecs
[12:58] <Falstius> is the cvs snapshot okay, or should I go direct to the daily?
[12:58] <pooh__> bur[n] er i tried that. got a password challenge. did that. now what?
[12:58] <ufc> SEJeff, thanks I thought it was only dvd rippe?
[12:58] <ufc> +r
[12:58] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: are you typing into a terminal?
[12:58] <NightLord> thanks nalioth and ubotu ^_^
[12:58] <SEJeff> ufc: I need sleep, you are right
[12:58] <bimberi> Fred: lol, i have  no idea why i went straight there, try GParted (in the same menu) :)
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> ncftpput ftp.puk.ac.za /outgoing/ /etc/ld.so.conf   <-- someone just please run that or paste me the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf my system is fscked because of the wrong contents
[12:58] <SP> Any good CD+RW formatters?
[12:58] <bur[n] er> pooh__: that's it... it's installed
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> am like depserate now..
[12:58] <pooh__> how does it start?
[12:58] <bur[n] er> SP: gnomebaker, nautilus, graveman, k3b
[12:59] <hamms> does any one here run a dual 64 bit machine with ubuntu installed on it? I need a link  to a tutorial
[12:59] <trappist> how to make an initrd for the kernel I'm trying to install?  I keep ending up with an initrd for my running kernel.  and while I'm at it, why didn't make install make my initrd for me?
[12:59] <SP> Thanks
[12:59] <Blake_Seven> Drewbie: Yes I am
[12:59] <nalioth> hamms: what kind of 64bit machine?
[12:59] <trappist> or make-kpkg for that matter
[12:59] <thresher> where do i go for newb questions that are lame
[12:59] <Falstius> trappist, do you need an initrd?
[12:59] <trappist> yes
[12:59] <nalioth> thresher: try here
[12:59] <BoD_SWAT> I installed Gforge and now I'm trying to remove it and I guess something went horribly wrong. When I try to apt-get remove the packages I get an error (process returned error code 1). Help?
[12:59] <Fred> bimberi: i dont have gparted in that menu :(
[01:00] <trappist> or, I assume I do.  I have a whole lot of modules.
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : please upload or paste me the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf my system is really fscked
[01:00] <Falstius> trappist, you only need an initrd for modules that are required to read your filesystem (aka ext3 or reiserfs)
[01:00] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: try mailx
[01:00] <thresher> i am trying to install canon i560 printer drivers to ubuntu and the instructions i have found say to ./autogen.sh --program-suffix=i560 but I dont know how to make that work in terminal
[01:00] <bimberi> Fred: ah, you're running hoary?  if so you need to install it.
[01:00] <Falstius> if you compile in support for those, you don't need it.  In the simplest case atleast
[01:00] <luisito> nalioth, I could experiment any problems if I install the kubuntu-desktop and use it with ubuntu at the same time?
[01:00] <Falstius> if you're doing something fancy .. thats another matter.
[01:00] <Fred> ahhhh ok thanks a lot bimberi :d
[01:00] <Fred> :D
[01:01] <Blake_Seven> drewbie: no go as well
[01:01] <hamms> AMD optron mp, two of them... I can get SMP kernel installed... when i run SMP kernel my NIC fails to load....
[01:01] <trappist> Falstius: well my fs is compiled in.  so I just disable initrd support and rebuild?
[01:01] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: mine is easy  >>>  /usr/X11R6/lib
[01:01] <n0odl3> nalioth: is conky for 5.10?
[01:01] <targetx> hamms, then make sure you include the modules for your nic
[01:01] <n0odl3> im getting an error when i tried to dpkg it
[01:01] <nalioth> luisito: you can have xubuntu and kubuntu and use all the programs installed under any desktop you like
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : thanks
[01:01] <nalioth> n0odl3: yes it is
[01:01] <ufc> SEJeff,  ist there eny alternative?
[01:01] <thresher> To build and install bjfilter:
[01:01] <thresher>         ./autogen.sh --program-suffix=<Printer Model Name>
[01:01] <thresher>         make
[01:01] <thresher>         make install
[01:01] <thresher>         * You can set the following <Printer Model Name>.
[01:01] <thresher>             i250 , i255
[01:01] <targetx> n0odl3, I can install conky just fine using apt-get install conky
[01:01] <thresher> what does that mean guys?
[01:02] <Fred> is the ubuntulinux.nl download thing down?
[01:02] <hamms> TargetX is that something that i need to do by hand or synaptic will do for me?
[01:02] <Falstius> trappist, you don't need to disable initrd support, just don't include an initrd line in grub.conf
[01:02] <bur[n] er> nalioth: i have issues iwth kubuntu-desktop... it overwrote my usplash!!!  and I can't get the "ubuntu" one back
[01:02] <targetx> hamms, Oh you are not compiling the kernel yourself?
[01:02] <Falstius> give it a try, if it doesn't work you can make the initrd later.
[01:02] <n0odl3> nalioth: oh its apt-get isntall
[01:02] <n0odl3> nalioth: i mean install
[01:02] <hamms> I was avoiding that, but i can if i need toooo
[01:02] <luisito> nalioth, no update problems of any kind, or packages problems?
[01:02] <bur[n] er> luisito: shouldn't be
[01:02] <trappist> Falstius: I did try that.  unable to mount rootfs.
[01:02] <targetx> hamms, I'd try compiling it yourself, allthough I would think the synaptic way should work
[01:03] <hamms> know of any good onlione tutorials for 64 SMP kernel building?
[01:03] <nalioth> bur[n] er: i know nothing about usplash, aren't there editors or something?
[01:03] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: well, you can try installing mailx by typing: sudo apt-get install mailx
[01:03] <targetx> hamms, no I'm sorry, I think it's exactly the same for i686 architecture
[01:03] <pooh__> how do i start sharpmusique?
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> hamms : the options ofr 64 SMP is easy enough.. its the other options that might confuse you
[01:03] <trappist> Falstius: I tried including the initrd to solve the problem.  used the wrong initrd and it doesn't contain the new /lib/modules, and I get a very different error.
[01:03] <targetx> hamms, except offcourse specifying another type of CPU in the CPU selection :)
[01:03] <Falstius> trappist: eh, then you probably compiled the fs driver as a module and you'll need an initrd.
[01:03] <nalioth> thresher: why are you pasting in here? didn't you read the /topic when you came in?
[01:03] <luisito> bur[n] er, oks..
[01:03] <bur[n] er> nalioth: afaik, it just comes in a kubuntu-artwork-usplash (or something) package and installed...  I couldn't get dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-usplash (or whatever the name) to bring the old one back
[01:03] <BluesRocker> Hi. I have problems with recording sound from microphone. How can I fix it?
[01:03] <nalioth> luisito: there should be no problems, they all run well installed together
[01:04] <trappist> Falstius: I triple-checked that the fs driver is built in, but I'm happy to build an initrd if I can figure out how to build a good one.
[01:04] <nalioth> bur[n] er: i'm having the same trouble, and it doesnt bother me a bit (i only reboot once every 3 weeks)
[01:04] <nalioth> bur[n] er: but there are ways to edit it
[01:04] <Falstius> trappist: it is a command line option to makeinitrd, but I don't remember the syntax.
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> initrd is evil.. just put what you need *
[01:04] <hamms> ok, well i have done one or two (linux)kernels in the past  by hand and i allways achive kernel panics.... I will give it a shot..... Thanks guys
[01:04] <luisito> bur[n] er, great!, thanks
[01:04] <trappist> Falstius: yeah and the man page isn't much help
[01:04] <luisito> nalioth, great!, thanks
[01:05] <targetx> I am going to kill some idsoftware developers.. or some ubuntu developers.. Doom 3 still doesn't accept my LEGAL & VALID cd key
[01:05] <bur[n] er> nalioth: yeah, i haven't put much effort either because, like you say, i only reboot once every 3 weeks or longer ;)
[01:05] <targetx> it works on Arch Linux and it worked before on Windows XP
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> hamms : best way for a newb is to take an ubuntu .config or slackware .config and then to enable the processor stuff
[01:05] <nalioth> luisito: i have x/k/ubuntu installed and have no trouble
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> hamms : from there only disable what you do know you do not need
[01:05] <thresher> nalioth
[01:06] <thresher> I asked where I a newb should go
[01:06] <hamms> thanks...
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> hamms : if you dont know exactly what something does dont change it and dont change any block devices or filesystems unless you add filesystems
[01:06] <BluesRocker> !sound
[01:06] <ubotu> well, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/, or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:06] <thresher> Please tell me where to go to being learning for a newb
[01:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thresher about paste
[01:06] <hamms> tanks bye guys
[01:06] <bimberi> Fred: Bah, my apologies, gparted allows you to create the partition but as far as i can tell doesn't actually format it.  I've looked for a gui _formatter_ and can't see one atm.  (mkfs is the command btw)
[01:06] <nosilver4u> anyone know how to get all the buttons on a thinkpad to do what they are supposed to--suspend, hibernate, and all that?
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> thresher : just play with the system
[01:06] <Mr_Milenko> Ubuntu is by far the easiest distribution i've ever used
[01:06] <nalioth> thresher: HERE is where you go, but dont paste into the channel
[01:06] <Falstius> trappist: the wife says I have to go eat now, sorry I can't help
[01:06] <n0odl3> dabaR: is bbrb a debian standard proram to?
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> try not to break it
[01:06] <Blake_Seven>  Drewbie: all set Thanks a bunch
[01:06] <tehdot> when something says it is an X resource...where do you enter that information?
[01:06] <Mr_Milenko> and how is ubuntu updated to stable faster then Debian?
[01:07] <drewbie> Blake_Seven: :)
[01:07] <lsuactiafner> Mr_Milenko : because its not debian
[01:07] <thresher> So we could have both saved some time if you had politely siad, 'Newb thresher, it is polite Not to paste into the channel"  at which point I would have responded, I am sorry for being a newb, thank you for teaching me
[01:07] <andi5> hi. i am currently trying to jigdo ubuntu, but ran into missing "hw-detect-full_1.18ubuntu2_all.udeb". any hints here? thanks in advance!
[01:07] <targetx> bah.. go to college or something
[01:08] <Fred> bimberi: gparted does exactly what i want! i have a dead disk which i deleted all files from in windows, but windows wouldn't format the thing. thanks again :D
[01:08] <bimberi> Fred: great :)
[01:08] <pooh_> can someone please tell me how to start sharpmusique?
[01:08] <Korio> Is anyone running bitlbee?
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> Fred : you need to fdisk the disk
[01:09] <lsuactiafner> or cfdisk from linux
[01:09] <andi5> Korio: i did, now using gaim again :)
[01:09] <nalioth> pooh_: most things start from the command line with their name
[01:09] <Korio> andi5: i get some weird problem; :localhost. NOTICE AUTH :BitlBee-IRCd initialized, please go on
[01:09] <Korio> ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/.
[01:09] <pooh_> nalioth: that's what i thought but nothing happens
[01:10] <Fred> how do i "eject" or whatever the disk? i dont wanna kill the thing again lol
[01:10] <andi5> Korio: so check what user bitlbee runs as and give it rw access to that dir ;)
[01:10] <nalioth> pooh_: did you read the docs at its website?
[01:10] <Korio> andi5: um how do i do that?
[01:10] <pooh_> nalioth: found no docs. just a .deb file
[01:10] <lsuactiafner> fred : dont pull the disk out when the pc is on.. and from nix type df anf see if its mounted, if mounted umount /dev/wahevet
[01:10] <andi5> Korio: is it in your inetd.conf
[01:11] <pooh_> nalioth: i get a command not found
[01:11] <Fred> thanks lsuactiafner :)
[01:11] <nalioth> pooh_: it has no website?
[01:11] <andi5> Korio: if you get it in ps, try ps axu
[01:11] <Korio> ....
[01:11] <Fred> and i know not to pull it out... someone else pulled it out of another pc; i just had to fix it ^_^
[01:11] <BluesRocker> can i reinstall sound driver somehow?
[01:11] <Korio> andi5: you confused me
[01:12] <andi5> Korio: iirc there are several ways to install bitlbee, i have no idea how ubuntu does it (currently trying to download it ;))
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> fred : just making sure
[01:12] <thresher> Does anyone run a canon printer on unguntu here?
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> ppl do silly things with pcs
[01:12] <thresher> ubuntu
[01:12] <Korio> andi5: i just apt-get install bitlbee ?
[01:12] <thresher> sorry for typo
[01:12] <Korio> andi5:  im in inetd.conf now what should i do?
[01:12] <pooh_> nalioth: it's on jon johanson's web site. i think he' the decss guy
[01:13] <nalioth> pooh_: ah, well. we dont advocate cracking in here, and i'm not sure anyway how to run it
[01:13] <andi5> Korio: is there something about bitlbee?
[01:13] <Korio> #:OTHER: Other services
[01:13] <Korio> 6667	stream	tcp	nowait	bitlbee	/usr/sbin/tcpd	/usr/sbin/bitlbee
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> pooh_ : whats this?
[01:14] <pooh_> nalioth: no, i'm not cracking. i'm a noob. don't know what the hell i'm doing
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> and you need to crack things to play dvds on your pc.. but might be wrong ...
[01:14] <pooh_> sharpmusique is supposed to enable iTunes functionality on linux
[01:14] <Korio> andi5: thats whats there
[01:14] <nalioth> pooh_: your program is a DRM cracker, my friend
[01:14] <nalioth> pooh_: very offtopic for #ubuntu
[01:15] <holycow> heh
[01:15] <pooh_> i just want to use my ipod w/ my linux box
[01:15] <holycow> you guys gotta start a petition to get crapple to actually support the open source stuff they derive their living from
[01:15] <pooh_> the d/l for the pkg was specifically for "breezy"
[01:15] <andi5> Korio: i would love to help you right now, but i have no debian running right now. first, check the rights of that dir by "ls -ld /var/lib/bitlbee", you know these masks?
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> holycow : no you should.
[01:15] <Korio> andi5: nope im pretty much not shure what im doing
[01:16] <andi5> Korio: what is the standard file manager?
[01:16] <andi5> nautilus?
[01:16] <holycow> lsuactiafner, i'm not an ipod user or a mac user trying to get their tech working on linux
[01:16] <holycow> and therefore, indeed, you guys (i.e. mac users) should
[01:16] <nalioth> andi5: for ubuntu? nautilus. kubuntu has konqueror
[01:16] <holycow> >_>
[01:16] <Korio> andi5: my file manager is XFE
[01:16] <pooh_> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:16] <andi5> go to that directory and try to find out the rights/perms/permissions
[01:17] <NightLord> how well does ubuntu run on a mac?
[01:17] <andi5> Korio: but i guess this is some kind of bug, will look into that when i get it up and running :D
[01:17] <Korio> andi5: well im running xubuntu
[01:18] <nalioth> pooh_: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:18] <andi5> Korio: this is just another package selection, is not it?
[01:18] <Korio> andi5: no idea
[01:18] <andi5> nalioth: thanks for you answer btw :)
[01:19] <Korio> andi5: oh didnt understand the question, well xubuntu is ubuntu without gnome and all the bloat
[01:19] <Korio> it has xfce instead
[01:19] <iceman_> Help, got a app that start when i start kde, how to KIll it ...
[01:20] <ratschnowski> iceman_, ps afux|grep <appname>
[01:20] <ratschnowski> and then kill <processnumber>
[01:21] <thresher> can someone help me with basic installation instructions for a canon printer?
[01:22] <remyforbes777> whats a good firewall
[01:22] <andi5> Korio: two things you need to do i guess: 1) find out the user bitlbee runs as (ps axu | grep tcpd might help, maybe just the second after some connection, dunno), 2) adjust the rights for /var/lib/bitlbee; alternative: there is some bitlbee configuration file you should read (now) ;)
[01:22] <thresher> I have the file and instructions I am just having problems getting it to run properly
[01:22] <hobbz> Korio how does it run? Is it fast? and do most programs run with no issues?
[01:22] <Korio> hobbz: yea I love it
[01:22] <Korio> its sooo much nicer than gnome
[01:23] <Korio> the only downside is that the xfce file manager sucks :/
[01:23] <remyforbes777>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Tril0ggg
[01:23] <Oewyn> WHOOPS
[01:23] <Korio> rofl thx for the pass
[01:23] <Korio> :D
[01:23] <hobbz> I will check it out
[01:23] <Oewyn> change your password asap :-)
[01:23] <andi5> remyforbes777: i guess it is time to change your pw ;)
[01:23] <remyforbes777> shit
[01:23] <holycow> thresher, is it supported? canon is notoriously terribly supported under linux.  i presume you checked with www.linuxprinting.org right?
[01:23] <Oewyn> always type that in the system tab
[01:23] <remyforbes777> how the hell do i do that
[01:24] <Oewyn>  /msg nickserv HELP
[01:24] <BluesRocker> can anybody help with sound problem?
[01:24] <andi5> so, anybody that ownes "hw-detect-full_1.18ubuntu2_all.udeb", or can tell me how to get/workaround it?
[01:24] <Oewyn> alt-# changes which tab you are on
[01:24] <NightLord> is xine better than totem?
[01:25] <andi5> NightLord: i just read the there are totem-xine and totem-gstreamer, so i guess you cannot compare them ;)
[01:25] <NightLord> hmm
[01:25] <Htr> i have a wuestion
[01:25] <Htr> *question
[01:25] <_jason> Htr:  wask away :D
[01:25] <andi5> NightLord: but do it nevertheless :)
[01:25] <holycow> NightLord, gstreamer still seems to have problems with plugins and various decompression issues
[01:26] <Htr> does the new verion (5.10) support the i925x chipset
[01:26] <holycow> i don't think there are decss types of plugins to play encrypted dvds for example
[01:26] <NightLord> i know, i prefer it, i was askin opinions
[01:26] <yi> i'm having a weird problem, i have multiverse enabled but i don't see to be able to install the acroread package
[01:26] <yi> even so it is in multiverse, any ideas?
[01:26] <NightLord> still don't like totem, xine runs alot better
[01:26] <holycow> with totemxine you can however install win32codecs to watch the encrypted stuff
[01:26] <nalioth> yi: what does it tell you?
[01:26] <apokryphos> yi: you're not enabling it correctly then
[01:26] <holycow> ah oki :) sorry
[01:26] <yi> nalioth: can't find the package
[01:26] <apokryphos> yi: pastebin your sources.list
[01:26] <yi> apokryphos: other packages from multiverse get installed fine
[01:27] <NightLord> what about divx? hows that go in linux?
[01:27] <remyforbes777> woo hoo
[01:27] <apokryphos> yi: what architecture are you on?
[01:27] <remyforbes777> changed it
[01:27] <yi> http://pastebin.com/407954
[01:27] <yi> apokryphos: amd64
[01:27] <nalioth> bingo
[01:27] <holycow> xine better than totem? i would say no, but i personally would opinion that vlc simply works flawlessly imho
[01:27] <remyforbes777> who showed me how to do that, I want to thank them
[01:27] <Htr> hello?
[01:27] <hobbz> anyone know of a good comic book reader for linux
[01:27] <hobbz> ?
[01:27] <NightLord> since it runs like a bitch on windows, with audio 6 seconds out of sync
[01:27] <apokryphos> yi: no acroread for amd64
[01:27] <NightLord> erm, webcomincs hobbz?
[01:27] <yi> um
[01:27] <Htr> does the new verion (5.10) support the i925x chipset
[01:27] <yi> why is that
[01:27] <hobbz> yes, the cbr files.
[01:27] <apokryphos> who knows
[01:27] <yi> it should execute 32bit binaries just fine
[01:27] <NightLord> not a clue ^_^
[01:28] <Htr> darn
[01:28] <holycow> NightLord, divx is supported with the win32codecs running either xine or totem-xine
[01:28] <dabaR> they are different programs. they are also open source, so if one was better, they would get code from it to make theirs the same, or everyone would use the best otherwise, and the rest would disappear from usage.
[01:28] <apokryphos> yi: I'm not saying it's not possible to package; I'm just saying it wasn't packaged
[01:28] <holycow> works fine
[01:28] <Htr> i cant find one distro that supports my hardware
[01:28] <remyforbes777> hobbz: where is there online comics
[01:28] <apokryphos> holycow: no w32codecs needed for divx, in fact. Just xine/mplayer should play 'em fine
[01:28] <nalioth> hobbz: search synaptic for 'oomic' or 'cbr'
[01:28] <hobbz> nalioth, cool thanks
[01:28] <Roadkill> where can I find a good sources.list?
[01:28] <apokryphos> !tell Roadkill about sources
[01:28] <Htr> anyone know of a distro that DOES supoort the i925x chipset
[01:28] <dabaR> Roadkill: ask the bot
[01:28] <Roadkill> for breezy...
[01:29] <Roadkill> the bot?
[01:29] <NightLord> whats an oomic? :P
[01:29] <apokryphos> Roadkill: check your /msg  from ubotu
[01:29] <nalioth> Roadkill: please turn that off
[01:29] <holycow> apokryphos, divx isn't open source, have the codecs been reverse engineered?
[01:29] <Roadkill> Htr> shouldn't pose any problem
[01:29] <apokryphos> holycow: no idea
[01:29] <Htr> so then it will run on ubuntu
[01:29] <remyforbes777> i thought you set a static IP in the interfaces config file
[01:29] <andi5> how can a format be open source?
[01:29] <bur[n] er> w00t... new rhythmbox is compiled and .deb is made! :)
[01:30] <bur[n] er> nalioth: thanks for that build-dep command hte other day, it totally helped
[01:30] <NightLord> cool! Must download!
[01:30] <jayson> what dir are startup files kept in?
[01:30] <nalioth> bur[n] er: i'm full of neat stuff
[01:30] <remyforbes777> do you have to restart the network daemon in order for that to take affect?
[01:30] <Roadkill> and any Intel / Nforce controllers they are supporting it....
[01:31] <bur[n] er> bah, my package name is off for some reason though... it's called rhythmbox-0.9.1 instead of just rhythmbox :\
[01:31] <Roadkill> apokryphos> thanks
[01:31] <Htr> hey roadkill
[01:32] <bur[n] er> NightLord: let me knwo if it works for you (regardless of the version in hte name)
[01:32] <cafuego> holycow: Nore or less. What do you get when you reverse 'divx' ?;-)
[01:32] <Roadkill> ?
[01:32] <apokryphos> yi: and btw, your multiverse repository *isn't* enabled
[01:32] <Htr> will thsi kernel have support for audio
[01:32] <Htr> or will i have to comp;ile my own
[01:32] <Roadkill> should be ...
[01:32] <holycow> cafuego, heh, clever
[01:32] <Roadkill> what type of board?
[01:32] <Htr> ASUS P5AD2-E pre
[01:32] <Roadkill> exact model...
[01:32] <Roadkill> I think you will
[01:33] <Htr> what about an X800
[01:33] <Roadkill> and you can run MAC OS X x86 on it...
[01:33] <Htr> i hate unix based macs
[01:33] <Roadkill> I saw the drivers 2day... accidently came across them...
[01:33] <jayson> what dir keeps startup files?
[01:33] <Roadkill> it's heaven dude...
[01:33] <Ropechoborra> Hi :)
[01:33] <Roadkill> you should try it on x86...
[01:33] <Htr> i have been getting kernel panic errors from every distro i try
[01:34] <cafuego> Htr: The ATI closed-souce drivers should support that. They're not the best piece of software ever written, though.
[01:34] <Htr> so il write over the iamge and boot and it works fine
[01:34] <Htr> unitl ii try to run the installer
[01:34] <ArdieM> good evening... my graphiccard doesnt want to run under breezy. i followed the wiki but nothing happens. @hoary it worked just fine. (ATI)
[01:34] <ArdieM> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ATI
[01:34] <Roadkill> what type of card?
[01:34] <ArdieM> radeon 9800
[01:35] <Htr> thansk for all the help you guys are cool
[01:35] <dabaR> Htr: you do not need to tell us, we know.
[01:36] <jayson> can someone tell me what dir startup files are kept in?
[01:36] <dabaR> jayson: what are startup files?
[01:36] <Htr> you know i could just have used SVSNICK abd made you all look like noobs
[01:36] <Roadkill> Ardie> what model?
[01:36] <jayson> I don't know, it is in mysql install instructions
[01:36] <Htr> but i decided not to because you were so polite
[01:36] <dewd_> how to turn off gdm and boot into the naked shell only?
[01:37] <jayson> put mysql.server where system startup files are located for automatic launching of mysql server
[01:37] <ArdieM> Roadkill, u mean that x500 thingy .. idunno atm. but i can say that it just worked with hoary
[01:37] <hobbz> kdewd cntrl+alt+backspace
[01:37] <dabaR> jayson: how did you install mysqlserver?
[01:37] <Htr> see ya
[01:37] <dewd_> hobbz, not that, I mean turning off the gdm for good
[01:38] <jayson> source
[01:38] <hobbz> You just want to boot in cli
[01:38] <hobbz> ?
[01:38] <dewd_> yep
[01:38] <hobbz> adjust inetd to runlevel 3
[01:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dewd_ about bum
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> dewd_
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> dewd_ : chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[01:39] <lsuactiafner> as sudo
[01:39] <dewd_> lsuactiafner, nice shorthand. thanks
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> runlevels are also nice.. but i prefer runlevel 3 and cli till when i need gui
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> err default runlevel whatever it is on ubuntu
[01:40] <lsuactiafner> and then i use cli to start gi
[01:41] <Snifffurt> hi
[01:41] <apokryphos> hi there
[01:41] <pizux> is loopback install on obonto default?
[01:42] <ArdieM> Roadkill, where can i look for the radeon 9800 AIW model?
[01:43] <Roadkill> try hoary...
[01:43] <apokryphos> pizux: list of things on the ISO: http://releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.list
[01:43] <Roadkill> apt upgrade while xserver is running...
[01:43] <hobbz> dewd I suppose you could edit /tc/grub/menu.lst also
[01:43] <ArdieM> Roadkill, what chu talkin bout? i am running breezy
[01:44] <Roadkill> you said you were having problems with the driver no?
[01:44] <dewd_> hobbz, I see. thanks
[01:45] <ArdieM> Roadkill, yes they dont load. i am using the mesa atm.
[01:45] <ArdieM> but why should they work in hoary and in brezy not?
[01:45] <Roadkill> ..
[01:46] <DonVincenzo> Hi, when Ilaunch acroread, I see thesplash screen, then nothing, anyone know why ?
[01:46] <ArdieM> DonVincenzo, try rnning it from a console
[01:46] <ArdieM> then ull probably see an error msg
[01:47] <DonVincenzo> no, nothing
[01:47] <DonVincenzo> just the splash screen, then it vanishes
[01:47] <DonVincenzo> and nothing more happen
[01:47] <ArdieM> no info in the console?
[01:48] <BoD_SWAT> I just partitioned a 200GB HD to ext3. How come it says: 9.62GB used?
[01:50] <holycow> anyone know in which dir the splash image for gnome startup is held in?
[01:50] <holycow> gconf does not alude to the actual path of the file ... weird
[01:51] <BoD_SWAT> holy_cow, I think it's /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[01:52] <willuknight> anyone know what to do when it says "it says "failed to install base system""
[01:52] <holycow> ah!
[01:52] <holycow> thx bod!
[01:52] <BoD_SWAT> holy_cow, you're welcome (just call me SWAT :P)
[01:53] <holycow> heh :)
[01:53] <BoD_SWAT> the nick "SWAT" was taken :(
[01:54] <Snifffurt> is it possible to link the /etc/passwd and so from my amd64 to my 32bit choot, instead of cping them? this would be allot more handy than copying in the case of any changes in one of these files.
[01:56] <Roadkill> ArdieM may this will help you out ... http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[01:57] <ArdieM> Roadkill, lol
[01:57] <holycow> well allrighty, lets test the new image :)
[01:59] <ssdd534> anyone know why i cant use lm_sensors or y it isnt in make menuconfig????
[02:00] <nekron> how i close the X using shell?
[02:00] <nekron> close the gnome..
[02:00] <yubimusubi> nekron: killall -9 gdm
[02:00] <Roadkill> init 3
[02:00] <bimberi> nekron: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[02:00] <lucy> why doesnt my cheap laptop play cd's is it because it has linux?
[02:01] <yubimusubi> lucy: my cheap laptop plays cds.
[02:01] <dewd_> hehe
[02:01] <skreet> Anyone here proficient with Ubuntu run-levels?
[02:01] <yubimusubi> lucy: hm... I don't use ubuntu...otherwise I'd offer help
[02:02] <bob2> skreet: just ask your question...
[02:02] <Cambo> playing cd's is a function that you have to pay extra money for.
[02:02] <Cambo> lol
[02:02] <bob2> skreet: also, it's documented in /usr/share/doc/sysvrc/
[02:02] <yubimusubi> Cambo: rofl
[02:02] <skreet> bob2, Thanks, I'll check that out.
[02:02] <yubimusubi> hi shatter_device
[02:02] <shatter_device> Hi
[02:02] <lucy> whe I try to play a cd it says it cant open
[02:03] <Cambo> lucy: are you running ubuntu?
[02:03] <lucy> yes
[02:03] <yubimusubi> lucy: are you using xmms?
[02:03] <Cambo> have you tried umount /dev/cdrom
[02:03] <lucy> im not shure
[02:04] <Cambo> use that command from the terminal.
[02:04] <theconartist> :o
[02:04] <lucy> im sorry I really dont know how to work with linux
[02:04] <colen> your not the only one
[02:04] <yubimusubi> lucy: yes, windows creates a virtual filesystem for the audio cd...but linux is better than that, and can read in RAW mode.
[02:05] <colen> this is my first time in linux ever
[02:05] <shatter_device> Hello, my alsamixer doesn't work, alsaconf doesn't work, and that xmms can't play sound, but I can here sound on Gaim
[02:05] <Distro^Junkie> congrats on getting here
[02:05] <colen> thank you
[02:05] <colen> I have a lot to learn though
[02:05] <crimsun> shatter_device: cat /proc/asound/modules
[02:06] <skreet> bob2, Is there a way to determine my current runlevel?
[02:06] <Distro^Junkie> well here is a great place to ask questions colen
[02:06] <bob2> skreet: "runlevel"
[02:06] <skreet> bob2, The obviousness is quite painful, Thanks!
[02:06] <bob2> skreet: it's going to be 2, tho
[02:06] <colen> distrojunkie - good, because I have about a million of them
[02:06] <bob2> skreet: are you perchance doing something involving restarting X?
[02:07] <skreet> bob2, No, installing some services. DDClient and TSServer to be exact.
[02:07] <bob2> skreet: "update-rc.d foo defaults" will just add foo to be started in all the normal runlevels
[02:07] <skreet> bob2, I'm fairly fluent in runlevels in Gentoo, but they provide the rc-update script, which I dont seem to see a simliiar program in Ubuntu.
[02:07] <lucy> is there a site I can search and get a hint how to work with ubuntu
[02:07] <skreet> bob2, And I spoke too soon.
[02:08] <colen> is this a good distro to start with?
[02:08] <skreet> colen, The best.
[02:08] <colen> for someone who knows know linux at all that is
[02:08] <bob2> lucy: wiki.ubuntu.com has lots of documentation, and is searchable
[02:08] <CarlFK_> colen - for someone who nose know Linxu two ;)
[02:08] <colen> I installed linspire a couple weeks back but that didnt really do it for me... I liek this much better already
[02:08] <skreet> colen, Ubuntu is the easiest distro to work with, and one of the easiest to set up
[02:08] <yubimusubi> colen: gentoo is fun
[02:08] <skreet> yubimusubi, Thats mean.
[02:08] <CarlFK_> and #ubuntu is a 24x7 party ;)
[02:09] !Md:*! oops! one of our servers is missing. beware of Cogent hosting
[02:09] <nalioth> lucy: help.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <yubimusubi> skreet: what? I've only used linux for six months, and gentoo was my easiest install...
[02:09] <yubimusubi> lol
[02:09] <Distro^Junkie> yubimusubi: yea its fun if all you want to do is sit and watch your pc compile 24/7
[02:09] <skreet> yubimusubi, Liar.
[02:09] <yubimusubi> Distro^Junkie: hm...I wish that was true...
[02:09] <colen> so ubuntu is a good choice for me then (I know nothing about linux).  I want a distro that wont limit me, and that once I learn and experienced I can stick with...
[02:10] <bob2> colen: yes
[02:10] <yubimusubi> Distro^Junkie: cause I really like what compiling looks like...but I'm only compiling about .01% of the time...
[02:10] <nalioth> colen: you'll be fine with ubuntu
[02:10] <lucy> anyone a UIC student that can help
[02:10] <yubimusubi> skreet: I'm a fast learner and I can read documentation :P
[02:10] <skreet> colen, I find Ubuntu isnt hard to get underneith like alot of distros that tote ease of use.
[02:10] <tom_> Hey, I am having problems running Synaptic, when I run it it flashes on for a millisecond then flashes off, this is what terminal reports: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3708
[02:10] <yubimusubi> but ubuntu is fun also.
[02:11] <Falstius> I think knoppix is the easiest "install" but I haven't tried ubuntu live.
[02:11] <colen> is there a site with the very basic commands that I should be starting with?
[02:11] <yubimusubi> Falstius: does knoppix actually install?
[02:11] <Distro^Junkie> hopefully my system won't go nuts updating through apt to breezy from hoary
[02:11] <bob2> yubimusubi: yes
[02:11] <bob2> unfortunately
[02:11] <yubimusubi> bob2: lol
[02:12] <skreet> colen: you mean for command line linux, i'm sure theres something.
[02:12] <skreet> colen: Basic file-management is similiar to DOS, if you're familiar.
[02:12] <bimberi> !cli
[02:12] <ubotu> it has been said that cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[02:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell colen about cli
[02:13] <yubimusubi> cli is teh r0x0rz
[02:13] <colen> years ago in college I did a little unix, but thats it.  so I'm pretty much starting from scratch
[02:13] <bimberi> bob2: i'll bite :)  Why "unfortunately"?
[02:13] <nalioth> colen: ubotu just sent you some links that may help you a bit
[02:14] <bob2> bimberi: because then people think they have Debian and insist they get help from Debian users
[02:14] <tsume> oi bob2
[02:14] <bimberi> bob2: yep, i can understand that
[02:14] <tsume> erm..
[02:14] <yubimusubi> woah, knoppix != debian...
[02:15] <bob2> tsume: howdy
[02:15] <bimberi> bob2: ... the annoyance of it that is :)
[02:15] <tsume> I'm having a small problem here. I've installed inetd, and telnetd. I've done /etc/init.d/inetwhatever-inetd start. Still no telnet access :(
[02:15] <bob2> uh
[02:16] <bob2> any plan involving installing telnet is DOOMED
[02:16] <leonel> is there something like  bugs.debian.org   with  ubuntu ?
[02:16] <tsume> bob2: hush :P
[02:16] <tsume> bob2: I'll install stelnet once telnet works
[02:16] <bob2> leonel: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, launchpad.net
[02:16] <bimberi> leonel: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:16] <bob2> tsume: really really really really don't do that
[02:16] <leonel> thanks
[02:16] <bob2> tsume: unless yo're running a MUD or something
[02:17] <tsume> bob2: router is broken(cisco) and doesn't let through enough for ssh ;)
[02:17] <Falstius> I had to install telnet for my dad because a company he works with only supports remote login by telnet and only as root.  I almost refused out of principle.
[02:18] <HaShofet> hi guys...how do you set a program to run as a service in ubuntu?
[02:18] <yubimusubi> telnet as root...
[02:18] <Cashel> can anyone recommend a nice pop3 panel notifier?
[02:18] <shatter_device> http://rafb.net/paste/results/9oOmk434.html
[02:18] <BlueTsunami> Hi
[02:18] <grodius> how to I transfer files from an NTFS partition (has no OS on it)
[02:18] <bob2> HaShofet: it's easier if you tell us what you're trying to do
[02:19] <colen> I have a quick question...  what is the difference between root and the account (the account after I installed)?  when do I want to be using root, and when do I want to be using my account?
[02:19] <BlueTsunami> Has anyone tried to install x64 Version of  Ubuntu under VMware? Its giving me a "Your CPU does not support Long Mode". Yet I have an AMD 64 3000+ (Venice)
[02:19] <bob2> BlueTsunami: uh
[02:19] <yubimusubi> colen: you never want to use root.
[02:19] <bob2> BlueTsunami: does vmware really emulate a amd64 CPU?
[02:19] <apokryphos> colen: there should be no need to ever use the actual root account
[02:19] <BlueTsunami> I thought it did lol
[02:19] <bob2> colen: you don't ever use the root account on ubuntu
[02:19] <Cashel> grodius: mount -t ntfs /dev/??? /mnt/whatever  then  cp <source> <dest>
[02:19] <BlueTsunami> I figured it was an emulation thing
[02:19] <yubimusubi> colen: root is only for installing new files, and doing administration; usually through sudo now.
[02:20] <BlueTsunami> I'll check the settings......damnit...simple enough
[02:20] <colen> I think i should go do some reading before bothering you guys
[02:20] <ouinouin_> vmware can't emulate another cpu
[02:20] <bob2> BlueTsunami: settings?
[02:20] <BlueTsunami> I've read VMware can run 64bit OSs
[02:21] <bob2> BlueTsunami: I'd be very very very surprised if vmware emulates amd64
[02:21] <BlueTsunami> hmmmm
[02:21] <bob2> BlueTsunami: anyway, ask them
[02:21] <BlueTsunami> Yesh
[02:21] <ouinouin_> the cpu under vmware is the same on your computer
[02:21] <BlueTsunami> thanks!
[02:21] <BlueTsunami> Thats what I was thinking ouinouin
[02:22] <ouinouin_> if you have a 64 bit your virtual machines work with a 64 bits
[02:22] <grodius> cashel sorry I dont understand can you claify
[02:22] <woddf2> /leave
[02:22] <e-sin> using proftpd as my sever, i've set up an account for a friend and put symbolic links in his home directory.  while on the server, if he's in the dirs i linked to and issues a CDUP, it takes him to the dir's parent folder, not back to ~.  how can i fix this?
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> tell him not to use ..
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> :D
[02:24] <e-sin> i was hoping for something a little more secure ;)
[02:24] <Cashel> grodius: sure... ok first you need to know what device the NTFS drive is on. If it was the primary slave drive, 2nd partition, on and IDE/ATA type drive, it would be /dev/hdb2, pri master, 1st part, /dev/hda1 , and so on.. you also need a mount point which is just an empty directory.. lets say /mnt/D is that point.. then you would simply issue the command:   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb2 /mnt/D
[02:25] <BlueTsunami> oh ok
[02:25] <BlueTsunami> Update
[02:25] <shatter_device> alsamixer doesn't work, alsaconf doesn't work, and that xmms can't play sound, but I can here sound on Gaim, I did what crimsun said and got this link :   http://rafb.net/paste/results/9oOmk434.html    I am really new at linux,  I just got it installed on my computer about 3 days ago
[02:25] <BlueTsunami> VMware 64bit is experimental
[02:25] <BlueTsunami> So only 32 bit distrobutions can be used for now
[02:26] <Cashel> grodius: which would make /mnt/D have all the stuff that ntfs drive does... cp is the linux command for 'copy' , so cp /mnt/D/somefile.zip /home/grodius/whateverdir/ would copy a file...
[02:26] <yubimusubi> BlueTsunami: what if you compile to a 64 bit machine?
[02:26] <ouinouin_> ok
[02:26] <Cashel> grodius: man cp  and  man mount  for more info..
[02:26] <BlueTsunami> That should be fine yubimusubi but VMware won't take it
[02:26] <BlueTsunami> I'm trying to run Ubuntu under XP so I have access to both at once
[02:26] <BlueTsunami> With VMware
[02:27] <yubimusubi> BlueTsunami: ...why don't you just mount your windows partition onto ubuntu?
[02:27] <Zukero> is there a libasound-dev package for ubuntu ?
[02:27] <Zukero> version 1.0.9-2
[02:27] <tsume> funny how many people pireate VMware
[02:27] <tsume> I'm curious how they make money off of it
[02:27] <BlueTsunami> Companies. LOL
[02:27] <yubimusubi> shatter_device: Zukero means type: apt-cache search libasound-dev
[02:27] <BlueTsunami> They do it legit for testing
[02:28] <yubimusubi> BlueTsunami: ah, I see.
[02:28] <shatter_device> Ohhhhhh I see thank you
[02:28] <Zukero> yubimusubi : my ubuntu box is not connected to net
[02:28] <charles_> is there a way to render a page and also have a file download (at the same time)... like they click a link and it render a page and the file pops up to download?
[02:28] <weijie90> how do i change the mime type of a file?
[02:28] <yubimusubi> Zukero: aww, why not?
[02:29] <grodius> cashel if mine is a partition on the drive linux is running on (my only HD- SATA) what do i put in?
[02:29] <Zukero> because of hardware restrictions :)
[02:29] <Zukero> that's why i need to download only the .deb
[02:29] <Zukero> and
[02:29] <Zukero> at debian.org
[02:29] <erickUbuntu> gudmorning
[02:29] <Zukero> they have version 1.0.9-3
[02:29] <Zukero> and 1.0.8-x
[02:29] <Cashel> grodius: does windows call the ntfs drive C ?
[02:30] <Cashel> grodius: if so, and you installed windows first, /dev/hda1 is the first with IDE.. not sure if sata is different tho...
[02:30] <yubimusubi> Zukero: ah...
[02:30] <Zukero> ..
[02:30] <IcemanV9> BlueTsunami: can you get a test PC? and slam Ubuntu on it? :)
[02:31] <weijie90> ubuntu is slow sometimes...
[02:31] <BlueTsunami> Yes I can
[02:31] <Zukero> is there an equivalent to http://packages.debian.org/ for ubuntu ?
[02:32] <ColonelKernel> Zukero, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:32] <grodius> cashel its NTFS formatted so it could be viewed by windows, but It doesnt actually have windows on it
[02:32] <Cashel> grodius: type mount alone at a command prompt, and you should see / mount on /dev something... so whatever format that is..
[02:32] <Zukero> ok, that simply :)
[02:32] <Zukero> thx
[02:32] <Zukero> well
[02:32] <Zukero> no
[02:32] <Zukero> doesn't exist
[02:33] <Cashel> grodius: System > Administration > Disks might be helpfull to you then..
[02:33] <tsume> so, does anyone know how to turn on telnet? because the usual isn't working :)
[02:34] <Falstius> I found a very nice app for windows that allows mounting of ext3 drives with read and write support.  I don't have to format "shared" drives fat anymore.
[02:34] <Madpilot> Zukero: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <-- it seems to exist for me
[02:34] <Zukero> oh
[02:34] <grodius> cashel theres a /dev/sda6 on /type ext3, that is my linux partition am i right? the other one is /.dev on type unknown
[02:34] <Cashel> grodius: yea thats linux
[02:34] <Zukero> raaaaaa
[02:34] <Zukero> .com
[02:34] <Zukero> notorg
[02:35] <Zukero> silly me
[02:35] <Cashel> grodius: System > Administration > Disks  will tell you whats what in X
[02:35] <yubimusubi> hey, how do I restart alsa in ubuntu? is it /etc/init.d/alsasound restart?
[02:35] <Zukero> hmmm
[02:35] <Zukero> no libasound on it
[02:36] <Zukero> no libasound-dev on it
[02:36] <Madpilot> Zukero: can you please not use your ENTER key as punctuation? Thanks...
[02:36] <Zukero> k
[02:36] <grodius> cashel hmm i dont have a disks in system-admin
[02:36] <yubimusubi> (erm, sorry I'm not on a ubuntu box...I'm trying to help a friend)
[02:36] <Cashel> ohhh mabye that just breezy
[02:36] <geargolem> hello
[02:37] <tsume> Madpilot: don
[02:37] <tsume> t
[02:37] <tsume> you
[02:37] <tsume> like
[02:37] <tsume> this?
[02:37] <tsume>  :P ;)
[02:37] <Cashel> grodius: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:37] <dmlinux> Where are the system icons stored>?
[02:38] <Cashel> dmlinux: /usr/share/icons in breezy...
[02:38] <Zukero> found it, thx guys
[02:38] <Cashel> dunno about hoary...
[02:38] <dmlinux> cashel thakns
[02:39] <geargolem> hello, I have a second hd that I store files on.  I tried to mount it  but it isn't showing the files.
[02:39] <yubimusubi> hey, how to restart the alsa sound daemon?
[02:39] <grodius> cashel ok ok cool let me see
[02:39] <yubimusubi> please? heheh
[02:39] <IcemanV9> killall alsa?
[02:40] <rene> quit
[02:40] <crimsun> IcemanV9: alsa isn't a process
[02:40] <yubimusubi> IcemanV9: thanks, but I meant, for instance, the startup daemone
[02:40] <yubimusubi> daemon* damn typos...
[02:40] <grodius> cashel ok i have sda5 as my NTFS i do /dev/sda5 correct?
[02:40] <geargolem> must I edit the fstab and reboot to see the files on hd2?
[02:41] <Cashel> grodius: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /some/empty/directory
[02:41] <Cashel> geargolem: no, just mount it
[02:42] <tsume> telnet on
[02:42] <tsume> yipp
[02:42] <Cashel> geargolem: also mount -a mounts everything set for auto in fstab... in linux one rarely needs to reboot :)
[02:42] <IcemanV9> well, yubimusubi .. killall <process>; it will restart whatever the process
[02:43] <geargolem> Cashel, sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hd2 is what I did but it says it is 'busy'
[02:43] <Cashel> yubimusubi: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils may be what your looking for if your trying to restore states...
[02:43] <CarlFK_> grodius - guessing you are still running win, so you should check this out: http://www.fs-driver.org - " The "Ext2 Installable File System for Windows" software is freeware." -- and it rocks.
[02:43] <yubimusubi> IcemanV9: yes, I know what the killall command does...but I'm a gentoo user
[02:43] !lilo:*! Shutting down our poor former main rotation server that's stuck behind cogent. Shutting off new connects first.
[02:43] <yubimusubi> Cashel: thanks that sounds about right ^-^;;
[02:43] <kbrooks> Is there a general 'how to fix intermennt internet connections'?
[02:43] <Cashel> geargolem: -t <type> and make sure hd2 is a directory that esxists...
[02:44] <monteiro> when i start slackware from lilo, it appears crc error, and i need to reset the computer and try again, that strangely works, anyone knows ?
[02:44] <kbrooks> hda2
[02:44] <geargolem> Cashel, how would I test it with -t?
[02:44] <kbrooks> Cashel: no
[02:44] <kbrooks> Cashel: -t != test
[02:44] <Cashel> geargolem: what kind of file system is it?
[02:44] <kbrooks> Cashel: lsof
[02:44] <monteiro> grub i say
[02:44] <kbrooks> use it
[02:44] <Cashel> I never said it was
[02:44] <geargolem> Cashel, ext3
[02:45] <Cashel> geargolem: you sure its not already mounted? if it says busy... type mount alone and see if it is..
[02:45] <maxkelley> say, has anyone gotten their breezy cds yet?
[02:45] <maxkelley> from shipit that is
[02:45] <grodius> cashel alright apparently it mounted on my desktop, but i cant see it... am i supposed to
[02:45] <dmlinux> Anyone know how to change icons in the system tray??
[02:45] <geargolem> Cashel, it says several things about mounts
[02:46] <Cashel> grodius: what do you mean you cant see it?
[02:46] <Cashel> grodius: what command did you issue?
[02:46] <grodius> cashel i cant see it when i minimise and look at my desktop
[02:46] <hobbes_> How do I install a local .deb package with apt-get?
[02:46] <hobbes_> or do I have to use something else?
[02:47] <Cashel> geargolem: what does it say about /dev/hdb1 ?
[02:47] <grodius> cashel sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /home/grodius/Desktop
[02:47] <Cashel> hobbes_: dpkg -i <file>
[02:47] <nekrataal> hi
[02:47] <hobbes_> thanks
[02:47] <nekrataal> i have a question..
[02:47] <BluesRocker> hobbes, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:47] <geargolem> Cashel, /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hd2 type ext (rw)
[02:47] <nekrataal> ld: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/crtbegin.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[02:47] <nekrataal> i get that when i try to compile something
[02:48] <nekrataal> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy
[02:48] <nekrataal> anyone knows what to do?
[02:48] <Cashel> grodius: umount /dev/sda5 , you shouldnt use you desktop dir as a mount point.... you can mkdir /home/Desktop/NTFS or something.. then do it there...
[02:48] <Hobbsee> nekrataal: ask it
[02:48] <Hobbsee> nekrataal: no one can fix it until you ask...
[02:48] <nekrataal> how to fix that?
[02:49] <qatsi> Hobbsee: he said the question :p
[02:49] <Hobbsee> qatsi: got booted...
[02:49] <qatsi> Hobbsee: he, ok then :p
[02:49] <BluesRocker> can anyone help me with sound?
[02:49] <nekrataal> i have that file, but in a 3.3.6 directory..
[02:49] <Hobbsee> nekrataal: please do me a favour and repeat the question lol?
[02:49] <Cashel> nekrataal: do you have glibc 3.3.5 installed?
[02:49] <Cashel> ahhh
[02:49] <nekrataal> i have glibc 3.3.6
[02:50] !lilo:*! Shutting down the server now....
[02:50] <nekrataal> default in breezy
[02:50] <Cashel> hrm..
[02:50] <Hobbsee> qatsi: lag was around 20 s, so i rebooted konqueror
[02:50] <nekrataal> but it seams that LD aims to 3.3.5
[02:50] <nekrataal> seems..
[02:50] <Cashel> thats odd...
[02:50] <geargolem> Cashel, /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hd2 type ext (rw)
[02:50] <PMantis> Can anyone correc this Totem error? :  libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[02:50] <Cashel> edit the makefile? :P
[02:50] <qatsi> Hobbsee: isnt konqueror part of kubuntu ?
[02:50] <qatsi> anyone here has an Intel D or AMD 64 X2 procesor ?
[02:50] <PMantis> Or this one?:  ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-ac3
[02:50] <Hobbsee> qatsi: yes, and i meant konversation lol
[02:50] <Cashel> geargolem: so its already mounted and your question was answered before it was asked :)
[02:50] <nekrataal> yeah, its really odd..
[02:51] <intelikey> nekrataal "ls /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/crtbegin* " and see if any version is there.
[02:51] <Ropechoborra> Need help for the configuration of a modem!
[02:51] <qatsi> Hobbsee: that sounds good now :P
[02:51] <nekrataal> ls: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/crtbegin*: No such file or directory
[02:51] <nekrataal> nope
[02:51] <nekrataal> it got replaced
[02:51] <Hobbsee> qatsi: yeah, it's still too early
[02:51] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: I suggest prayer.. :)
[02:51] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: been awhile since I've done it.. what kind of modem do you have?
[02:52] <geargolem> Cashel, but all I see there is 'Lost+Found', not my files.
[02:52] <qatsi> Hobbsee: for the procesor you mean ? well, yes, but since this is the geek reunion, i thought anone here had one :p
[02:52] <grodius> cashel what command for unmount "unmount" is not it
[02:52] <intelikey> winmodems are not modems
[02:52] <Cashel> grodius: umount ... not un
[02:52] <Ropechoborra> Cashel an onboard one (PC Chips P4 mother)
[02:52] <grodius> cashel sorry
[02:53] <nekrataal> so, no one knows?
[02:53] <intelikey> Ropechoborra run wvdialconf and see if it picks up a modem or not.
[02:53] <yubimusubi> could gaim block alsa's sound for xmms?
[02:53] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: I'll see if I can find anything about weather its supported, but I'm doubting it..
[02:53] <intelikey> you may need to install it.
[02:53] <inlivingcolour> hello everyone
[02:54] <Ropechoborra> Cashel Ok... Ill do it when i reboot my pc (im not in linux) but why is that? why cant recognice all modems ??
[02:54] <Hobbsee> qatsi: well there you go, it boots you after the server doesnt respond for 45 seconds
[02:54] <Ropechoborra> And if it did not... How do i connect to internet??? buy other modem?? O_o !
[02:54] <inlivingcolour> im trying to install kde, and its telling me that some dependancies are going to be installed and wont dl kde.  how do i force dl of the dependancies?
[02:54] <ScatterBrain> Anyone runnning VMware on Breezy here?
[02:55] <qatsi> Hobbsee: never had that problem :p maybe internet conection ?
[02:55] <targetx> I'm installing VMWare as of now
[02:55] <funkyHat> inlivingcolour, what are you doing to install KDE?
[02:55] <intelikey> Ropechoborra winmodems are propriatary hardware.
[02:55] <Larsson-Sweden> I need some help. I am dualbooting with windows. Now i have reinstalled windows, and of course, grub has been overwritten so grub does not start anymore. How to fix this? Can i somehow write grub to a floppy disc?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> qatsi: could be, shouldnt though, everything else seems fine
[02:55] <funkyHat> inlivingcolour, you should be installing the package named kubuntu-desktop
[02:55] <KinkoBlast> winmodems suck
[02:55] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: some modems arent real modem but "winmodems" which means they are missing an important piece of hardware.. some such modems have linux compatible drivers, but not all..
[02:55] <Hobbsee> Larsson-Sweden: give me a sec
[02:55] <inlivingcolour> funkyhat, im trying to apt-get install kde in terminal, and trying in synaptic
[02:55] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: http://www.linmodems.org/  go there, and try their scanmodem tool
[02:55] <Larsson-Sweden> Yes Hobbsee
[02:55] <qatsi> Hobbsee: darn, im killing myself because the new procesors :S:S:S i want them all !!!
[02:55] <funkyHat> inlivingcolour, don't install kde, install kubuntu-desktop
[02:56] <Ropechoborra> Cashel Thanks!
[02:56] <geargolem> Cashel, but all I see there is 'Lost+Found', not my files.
[02:56] <qatsi> Hobbsee: i dunno why, but i like more the AMD one :p
[02:56] <hobbes_> wicked, thanks Cashel, this is working great
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Larsson-Sweden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652
[02:56] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: if you have a serial or usb modem (or just a real old modem) laying around, you'll be better off..
[02:56] <Larsson-Sweden> Thx!
[02:56] <Hobbsee> qatsi: hehe
[02:56] <intelikey> Ropechoborra install "wvdial"  and run "wvdialconf"  it is really good at finding usable modems on a system.
[02:56] <IcemanV9> Ropechoborra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto
[02:56] <grodius> cashel k ithink it worked, but now i dont have permission to access the folder...
[02:56] <qatsi> Hobbsee: well, i could be because the 2000Mhz FSB, not the 800 one in Intel
[02:56] <inlivingcolour> ty
[02:56] <Cashel> geargolem: maybe thats all thats there?
[02:57] <Cashel> geargolem: wrong partition maybe...
[02:57] <Cashel> grodius: lol oops
[02:57] <geargolem> Cashel, I have tons of stuff on it, though
[02:57] <grodius> cashel oops :( ?
[02:57] !lilo:*! restarting services; please bear with us
[02:58] <dooglus> what is the recommended way of running GNOME from a chroot environment?
[02:58] <Cashel> grodius: are you using the user you first created in ubuntu?
[02:58] <grodius> cashel since I reformatted, yes.
[02:58] <jacob_> heloo
[02:58] <Larsson-Sweden> Hobbsee, isnt there an app that simply writes the current grub to a floppy?
[02:58] <grodius> cashel grodius is the only user i've ever made
[02:59] <grodius> cashel since i formatted
[02:59] <czr> hello, any kernel experts here?
[02:59] <chickFlick> hello
[02:59] <chickFlick> how to put colours in vim
[02:59] <targetx> ScatterBrain, whats your problem with vmware ?
[02:59] <chickFlick> like when you code in python / php
[03:00] <geargolem> Cashel, I have two hd's.  How could I have the wrong partition?
[03:00] <chickFlick> i need to put coulors
[03:00] <czr> does anyone know why kernel limits my number of threads to lower amount than /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> Larsson-Sweden: could be
[03:00] <Cashel> grodius: ok, then his uid is 1000.. you need to do.. mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/sda? /mnt/point/
[03:00] <Cashel> I think...
[03:00] <czr> I'm running without ulimits
[03:00] <Cashel> geargolem: if it says its mounted, and theres nothing there, how could you not?
[03:00] <geargolem> Cashel, because this has happened before
[03:00] <ScatterBrain> targetx: It's SLOW on my new laptop w/Breezy.
[03:01] <czr> chickFlick, you mean syntax highlighting?
[03:01] <czr> chickFlick, so that vim will color keywords in different color from other stuff?
[03:01] <ScatterBrain> targetx: so slow that it's unusable.
[03:01] <Cashel> geargolem: perhaps you dont have read access to those files?
[03:01] <chickFlick> czr, yes
[03:01] <targetx> ScatterBrain, how's the performance during normal Linux usage ?
[03:01] <Cashel> geargolem: are you doing this as root?
[03:01] <czr> chickFlick, are you sure you're using vim and not some other vi-like program?
[03:01] <chickFlick> czr, syntax color
[03:01] <geargolem> Cashel, as sudo
[03:02] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Linux runs fine - even with the VM running.
[03:02] <Cashel> geargolem: sudo ls -al /mount/point   shows nothing?
[03:02] <targetx> 'as sudo' hehe
[03:02] <chickFlick> czr yes
[03:02] <grodius> cashel not workin
[03:02] <targetx> ScatterBrain, sorry I can't help you on it mate.. I'm currently installing it myself and I'm having some trouble too
[03:02] <czr> chickFlick, then it should work automagically if your TERM is set correctly. echo $TERM?
[03:02] <geargolem> Cashel, it shows the permissions...  I'm confused.
[03:03] <Ropechoborra> Cashel si i download wvdial and install it, the run wvdialconf to see if my modem works ?
[03:03] <chickFlick> XTERM
[03:03] <chickFlick> czr XTERM
[03:03] <czr> chickFlick, in capital letters?
[03:03] <chickFlick> czr yes it was in capital
[03:03] <czr> chickFlick, then it's wrong
[03:03] <czr> chickFlick, export TERM=xterm
[03:03] <Cashel> grodius: it gives an error or what?? never done it by hand, always do it in the fstab..
[03:04] <czr> chickFlick, then try vim again
[03:04] <lancer285> hey guys, I just did a clean install of Breezy, but now Rythmbox doesn't play mp3s. is there a package I have to add on to get it to play?
[03:04] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: I dont know anything at all about wvdial
[03:04] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:04] <Cashel> geargolem: shows the permissions of what?
[03:04] <czr> lancer285, gstreamer-mp3 in universe
[03:04] <chickFlick> czr , it is in small letter thought..
[03:04] <lancer285> czr, thanks
[03:04] <watnou> morn
[03:05] <czr> chickFlick, which terminal are you using then?
[03:05] <geargolem> Cashel, for instance it says, "drwx----- 2 root root 4096..etc"
[03:05] <grodius> cashel mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,
[03:05] <grodius>        missing codepage or other error
[03:05] <grodius>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:05] <grodius>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:05] <tritium> grodius, please don't paste
[03:05] <grodius> tritium sorry bout that
[03:05] <czr> now, any people who know a thing or two about the kernel?
[03:05] <tritium> no worries
[03:06] <yubimusubi> czr: kernel is fun
[03:06] <czr> yubimusubi, without a doubt :-)
[03:06] <chickFlick> czr, how to check which terminal i am using
[03:06] <czr> but that wasn't really the question this time :-)
[03:06] <geargolem> Cashel, how do I set permission to the directory?
[03:06] <Ropechoborra> Cashel Ive found this scanModem. I have to install it, execute it and then it gives me a report?
[03:06] <czr> chickFlick, which program did you start to get the command line?
[03:06] <Cashel> geargolem: yes, thats the ls -al .. but do you see all the files you think you should have...
[03:06] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: I guess, I never used it
[03:06] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:06] <czr> yubimusubi, my question is that what is the limit of amount of threads in linux
[03:06] <chickFlick> czr , termianl command line
[03:07] <czr> chickFlick, are you using graphical desktop?
[03:07] <czr> chickFlick, if so, how did you start your "terminal"
[03:07] <geargolem> Cashel, no I don't. :(
[03:07] <czr> yubimusubi, I've set my /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max to very insane numbers
[03:07] <chickFlick> czr , application >> systemtools >> terminal
[03:07] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: you need to determin what chipset the modem uses to know if it will work... also you may just try using /dev/ttyS0 (for com1, S1 for com 2, etc) in wvdial or whatever to see if it maybe works already
[03:07] <czr> yubimusubi, but the kernel will clip the amount of threads to less than 32k
[03:08] <yubimusubi> czr: oh, I haven't played with threads
[03:08] <Cashel> geargolem: then theres nothing there
[03:08] <czr> chickFlick, hmm
[03:08] <czr> chickFlick, how did you start vim?
[03:08] <yubimusubi> although I'll have to look into it on my next kernel recompile
[03:08] <czr> yubimusubi, well, there is no kernel conf for that
[03:08] <targetx> ScatterBrain, you have installed VMWARE right ?
[03:08] <czr> not since kernel version 2.2 ;-)
[03:08] <Ropechoborra> Cashel ive tryed that already... Doesnt work... ill try with this scanModem.. :)
[03:08] <geargolem> Cashel, thanks for your help.  I reinstalled ubuntu but before I copied all my files to hd2.
[03:08] <chickFlick> czr , by typing -- vim  filename -- in command line
[03:08] <D1> does anyone know the package libtoolize belongs to?
[03:08] <D1> libtool perhaps?
[03:09] <targetx> I'd guess :D
[03:09] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Yeah it running, it's just dead dog slow.
[03:09] <czr> chickFlick, and you're sure that the TERM was 'xterm' and not 'XTERM'?
[03:09] <grodius> cashel did you get that up there?
[03:09] <Cashel> grodius: ok, lets try it a diff way, since I dunno about making it user friendly with the mount command (sudo commands will work on that drive now, but if you want the user using it its different)
[03:09] <chickFlick> czr , how to get line numbers in vim?
[03:09] <Cashel> yeah
[03:09] <czr> chickFlick, hell if I know :-)
[03:09] <chickFlick> czr, yes i am sure
[03:09] <czr> I don't use vi ;-)
[03:09] <targetx> ScatterBrain, how did you compile the vmware module? I cannot compile it.. I've installed the kernel 2.6.12-9-686 and the corresponding headers, the module won't compile though
[03:09] <czr> vi is the middle name of evil
[03:09] <Ropechoborra> Cashel Other thing.... Got this ntfs partition... It is only mounted as "Read Only" isnt any other way?
[03:09] <Linux_whore>  is this the correct way to mount a floppy > chris@ubuntu:/media$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[03:09] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I'm using the same gcc as used to compile the kernel, as stated by the vmware manual..
[03:09] <grodius> cashel k, what do i need to do
[03:10] <grodius> cashel should i mount it the regular way again
[03:10] <worthawholebean> What's a good voice recognition / dictation software?
[03:10] <Cashel> Ropechoborra: nope, there is not NTFS support for write in linux yet.. they are working on it tho..
[03:10] <nalioth> Ropechoborra: if you write to NTFS from linux, it can destroy the partition
[03:10] <czr> Ropechoborra, you need to have rw-support enabled in the ntfs driver of linux
[03:10] <geargolem> Cashel, the 'lost+found' file in the mount point denying me access.  Can I gain access?
[03:10] <yubimusubi> czr: ah, I've only compiled 2.4 and 2.6 kernels
[03:10] <targetx> ALLWAYS mount 'ntfs' read only
[03:10] <czr> actually the new version of ntfs driver is quite good
[03:10] <Cashel> you should check your pm's grodius :)
[03:10] <nalioth> czr: please dont advise that
[03:10] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Did you use the vmware-any-any patch?
[03:10] <czr> even the write support
[03:10] <D1> im trying to compile filezilla3 cvs
[03:10] <D1> finally
[03:10] <D1> a linux version
[03:10] <Cashel> geargolem: as root sure
[03:10] <targetx> ScatterBrain, come again.. what do you mean ? :-)
[03:10] <czr> nalioth, oh? did you try the new version?
[03:10] <worthawholebean> What's a good voice recognition / dictation software?
[03:10] <Ropechoborra> czr how is that ?
[03:11] <nalioth> czr: new version of what?
[03:11] <geargolem> Cashel, ls -al?
[03:11] <czr> of the ntfs driver
[03:11] <ScatterBrain> targetx: sec.
[03:11] <Cashel> geargolem: sudo ls -al
[03:11] <nalioth> czr: ubuntu doesnt have an NTFS driver
[03:11] <czr> at all?
[03:11] <targetx> I am using VMware Workstation 4.5.2-8848 by the way.. or at least im trying to use it.
[03:11] <czr> heh, serves me right for compiling my own kernels then :-)
[03:11] <targetx> :
[03:11] <nalioth> Ropechoborra: if you write to NTFS from linux, it can destroy the partition
[03:11] <geargolem> Cashel, it still denies me access
[03:11] <yubimusubi> czr: I use gentoo, so I compiled me a custom kernel
[03:11] <chickFlick> anybody have any idea about vim
[03:11] <ScatterBrain> targetx: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77040&highlight=vmware-any-any
[03:11] <Cashel> geargolem: I dont know then dude, it shouldnt
[03:12] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Response No. 3
[03:12] <Ropechoborra> Je ok...... I got partition magic 6.0 but it doesnt let me change it to FAT32 without deleting everything on it
[03:12] <sun_> how to see the content of .deb file
[03:12] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Actually response No. 2 and No. 3
[03:12] <czr> yubimusubi, I compile normally the kernels on development systems I use, even if using debian/ubuntu
[03:12] <geargolem> Cashel, thank  you for your help
[03:12] <yubimusubi> ah
[03:12] <targetx> ScatterBrain, Thanks! Greatly appreciate it!
[03:12] <CzarAlex> Where is my mail sent to root@localhost (or in my case, czar@mother) stored? and how to I set up evolution or thunderbird to read it?
[03:12] <tritium> sun_, dpkg -c <foo.deb>
[03:13] <czr> hmm, no threads experts then I guess
[03:13] <Linux_whore> i just use floppy formatter in ubuntu to format the floppy as DOS (FAT) i dont know if that is the same as vfat and i dont know if my floppy drive destroys floppies or i am doing something wrong
[03:13] <grodius> cashel sorry forgot how
[03:13] <Ropechoborra> Well... I will going now to try this things...  I was forgetting something ! a friend of mine told me to instal this sl-modem-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.9.9a-1ubuntu2+2.6.10-34_i386.deb
[03:14] <Ropechoborra> Ive done that ... then he told me to put sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon but some error occur
[03:14] <aeon17x> Ropechoborra: what for? You have a Smartlink modem?
[03:15] <Ropechoborra> I got a PC Chips P4 M909G motherboard wich brings an onboard modem
[03:15] <Ropechoborra> let me see on the manual
[03:15] <ksmurf> anyone know about FreeNX?
[03:15] <Xenguy> this isn't meant to be a troll, but is Ubuntu now, or in the future, planning to be a fork of Debian?
[03:15] <crimsun> it's not a fork.
[03:16] <Xenguy> crimsun: why is that tho?
[03:16] <tritium> nalioth, just been busy.  You?
[03:16] <crimsun> read mark shuttleworth's blog for the real stance.
[03:16] <aeon17x> Xenguy: it's a fork and it's not.
[03:16] <Xenguy> crimsun: so it's not a fork, but I don't know why :-)
[03:17] <Xenguy> maybe
[03:17] <Madpilot> Xenguy: it's a spoon, not a fork, according to Shuttleworth ;)
[03:17] <dooglus> Xenguy: Mark Shuttleworth calls it a spoon, not a fork
[03:17] <dooglus> hmm
[03:17] <Xenguy> Madpilot: I like the Matrix so I'll probably like the spoon ;-)
[03:17] <crimsun> Xenguy: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[03:17] <yubimusubi> that's cute ^-^;;
[03:17] <aeon17x> Xenguy: but there is no sppon
[03:17] <Xenguy> crimsun: tx
[03:17] <Xenguy> ;-)
[03:17] <aeon17x> *spoon
[03:17] <yubimusubi> why the s? https?
[03:18] <Rev-Marc> someone sent me an address for the repoistory list for Breezy but I have missplaced it, could I please get it again?
[03:18] <dooglus> Rev-Marc: archive.ubuntu.com
[03:18] <Xenguy> yubimusubi: ssl = secure
[03:18] <Xenguy> yubimusubi: encrypted transmission
[03:18] <Rev-Marc> dooglus Thank you
[03:19] <ksmurf> anyone know about FreeNX? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/408483 is the issue I have
[03:19] <yubimusubi> Xenguy: I realise that, but why does he have a secure blog?
[03:19] <yubimusubi> Kinda strange...
[03:19] <Ropechoborra> aeon17x it is an HSP56MR Intel Modem (onboard)
[03:19] <crimsun> yubimusubi: everyone does.
[03:19] <crimsun> yubimusubi: that's just how wiki.ubuntu.com is configured
[03:19] <Xenguy> yubimusubi: who knows -- sounds good just on general principle to me
[03:20] <nalioth> system > prefs >windows > window selection
[03:20] <yubimusubi> hm...I guess so.
[03:21] <nalioth> darn window selector
[03:21] <targetx> ScatterBrain, thanks! VMWare compiles now..
[03:21] <Tido> what's the best tool to use for remote control that's graphical?
[03:21] <Rev-Marc> What I need is a good copy of the apt-get conf file
[03:21] <ksmurf> freeNX from what I have read
[03:22] <Tido> thanks!
[03:22] <Rev-Marc> any help greatly appreciated
[03:22] <yubimusubi> has anyone had any trouble with alsa on ubuntu? with xmms?
[03:22] <ScatterBrain> targetx: COOL!  Glad to help.
[03:22] <jack_> can anyone tell me how to hibernate or suspend on ubuntu???
[03:22] <Ropechoborra> nalioth it is an HSP56MR Intel Modem (onboard)
[03:22] <targetx> ScatterBrain, Just a thought.. have you enabled prelinking ?
[03:22] <jonny_> I love Uuntu, but I want to try out other distros. Is there any way to install other types of linux on the same hdd without affecting ubuntu?
[03:22] <larsson_> If i have a Ubuntu live CD, can i booy
[03:22] <ScatterBrain> targetx: No.
[03:22] <ksmurf> jack_ when you find out let me know
[03:22] <nalioth> Ropechoborra: i dont know much about those
[03:23] <yubimusubi> jonny_: you should try livecds first
[03:23] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[03:23] <ScatterBrain> targetx: If you get a VM installed tonight, can you let me know how it performs?
[03:23] <Ropechoborra> Thanks any way ill be going now
[03:23] <larsson_> If i have a Ubuntu live CD, can i boot my existing ubuntu installation with it?
[03:23] <jack_> ill try
[03:23] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I'm installing Windows XP on it now (just to toy with) and that shouldn't take too long I hope
[03:23] <jonny_> yubimusubi: the one I want does not have a live CD
[03:23] <crimsun> jack_: what laptop?
[03:23] <bimberi> ubotu tell Rev-Marc about repos
[03:23] <ScatterBrain> targetx: cool.
[03:23] <ksmurf> acer
[03:23] <yubimusubi> jonny_: otherwise, yes, you can repartition your hard drive and install more than one linux...at one point I had SuSE, debian, ubuntu and gentoo all installed on one hd
[03:23] <yubimusubi> jonny_: what dist you looking at?
[03:24] <bimberi> Ropechoborra: you might be on the right track for getting that modem going.  what's the error you're getting?
[03:24] <jonny_> yubimusubi: spinix
[03:24] <ksmurf> anyone known about FreeNX?
[03:25] <jonny_> how can I repartition,  yubimusub?
[03:25] <ksmurf> I can't seem to get the client and server to like each other
[03:25] <yubimusubi> jonny_: if it's a halfway-decent distro it will come with some good partitioning tools, otherwise I suggest using fdisk
[03:25] <ksmurf> johnny gparted
[03:25] <jack_> i have a HP dv1000
[03:25] <yubimusubi> ksmurf: is that graphical?
[03:26] <ksmurf> yes
[03:26] <jonny_> fdisk? is that in synaptic, yubimusubi ?
[03:26] <yubimusubi> Hm..I've only used suse's partition manager and fdisk..I like fdisk better
[03:26] <larsson_> If i have a Ubuntu live CD, can i boot my existing ubuntu installation with it? Please answer..
[03:26] <yubimusubi> jonny_: try ksmurf's idea of gparted first
[03:26] <ksmurf> yubimushi gparted is no destructive
[03:26] <jonny_> is that on synaptic?
[03:26] <ksmurf> yes
[03:27] <crimsun> larsson_: yes, presuming you have the same kernel installed
[03:27] <yubimusubi> ksmurf: fdisk is not destructive either
[03:27] <dooglus> ksmurf: gparted is a non-descructive partitioning tool?
[03:27] <ksmurf> yubimushi gparted my bad
[03:27] <aeon17x> Folks, gotta go now... I'm off to install Ubuntu on 20 computers in a local school... wish me luck.
[03:27] <Rev-Marc> bimberi <== Thank You
[03:27] <crimsun> larsson_: (should work even if you don't have the same kernel, but it may spew more verbosely)
[03:27] <ksmurf> yubimushi  my bad
[03:27] <larsson_> crimsun, its a hoary live cd, i have breezy installer now.
[03:27] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: yw :)
[03:27] <larsson_> *installed
[03:28] <jonny_> It says I already have it, where is it located?
[03:28] <crimsun> larsson_: you can still do it. linux root=/dev/fooblah
[03:28] <ksmurf> dooglus .... you can do nondestructive resizing of drives ( in theory) .....
[03:28] <jack_> crimsun: i have HP dv1000
[03:28] <dooglus> ksmurf: oh, I see what you mean.  ok.  does it work?
[03:28] <larsson_> crimsun, my problem is that grub is gone after having installed XP.
[03:28] <crimsun> larsson_: may need to pass init=foo explicitly
[03:28] <[bw] 808y> im new here whats the new codename of the latetest ubuntu?
[03:29] <[bw] 808y> i have warty
[03:29] <crimsun> jack_: is acpi confirmed to not be problematic on it?
[03:29] <[bw] 808y> then?
[03:29] <jonny_> ...found it
[03:29] <Hobbsee> [bw] 808y: breezy
[03:29] <[bw] 808y> thx
[03:29] <targetx> NEAT!! :) Vmware on linux woohoo
[03:29] <dooglus> [bw] 808y: 'breezy' was released 2 weeks ago.  'dapper' is in development
[03:29] <[bw] 808y> oki thx
[03:29] <targetx> ScatterBrain, Have you installed VMWARE TOOLS ??
[03:29] <jack_> crimsun: i dont know, how do i tell :(
[03:29] <targetx> (inside the guest operating system in vmware )
[03:30] <crimsun> jack_: search the wiki, of course :-)
[03:30] <ksmurf> dooglus.... I wouldn't trust critical data without backing it up first but I've had an 80% sucess rate
[03:30] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Yeah.
[03:30] <ksmurf> (4 of 5)
[03:30] <dooglus> ksmurf: 4 out of 5?
[03:30] <dooglus> ok.
[03:30] <jonny_> in gparted, how can you change size, yubimusubi ?
[03:30] <dooglus> my success rate is currently 0 out of 0 with gparted and 1 out of 1 with bootitng
[03:30] <ksmurf> unmount the drive the resize
[03:30] <jack_> crimsun: ok hold on
[03:31] <nalioth> jonny_: you need to run gparted from the livecd, if you are working with your current partition
[03:31] <LincTeK> general question .. what is the minimum ram you would suggest for a breezy install
[03:31] <ksmurf> Linc ....256 but 128 can be done
[03:32] <crimsun> LincTeK: to be comfortable, 256 MB. You can make do with 64, but you'll want a slimmer desktop environment.
[03:32] <nalioth> LincTeK: i second the 256
[03:32] <ksmurf> if you tweakk all
[03:32] <jonny_> I have no live cd, except for warty, nalioth
[03:32] <nalioth> jonny_: that should work
[03:32] <jonny_> ok, thx
[03:33] <ksmurf> can anyone help me get freenx going?
[03:33] <doubletwist> Geez, I hate anything less than 384... But then I tend to run a lot of progs at once.
[03:33] <ksmurf> doubletwist Linc asked for a minimum
[03:33] <doubletwist> right
[03:34] <doubletwist> But no one asked what he'd be doing with it.
[03:34] <ufc> System > Administration > Login Screen Setup > psswd > FAILED to run gdmsetup as user root Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. ?? what is wrong?
[03:34] <doubletwist> which is the important consideration I think.
[03:34] <dooglus> ksmurf: is freenx packaged for ubuntu?  is it in the repos?
[03:35] <ksmurf> dooglus one sec
[03:35] <targetx> ScatterBrain, should I run vmware as root.. at the moment my newly created virtual machina cannot access my cdrom drive (doesn't find it at all (not even in bios of vmware machine))
[03:35] <Xenguy> crimsun: thanks; very interesting read :-)
[03:35] <LincTeK> i usually run no less than 512 mb but i was just wondering what the general thoughts were
[03:35] <sun_> i want to the detailed process of the installation of ubuntu
[03:35] <ScatterBrain> targetx: I've never had too before.
[03:35] <targetx> LincTeK, I prefer 7xx or more
[03:36] <crimsun> sun_: ...the what?
[03:36] <targetx> ScatterBrain, ok.. then it's just something odd at my place
[03:36] <LincTeK> I have edubuntu ona machine for my kids and it's a bit slow with 128 mb
[03:36] <ksmurf> !frenx
[03:36] <ubotu> ksmurf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:36] <ksmurf> !freenx
[03:36] <ubotu> it has been said that freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[03:36] <crimsun> ksmurf: no, it's not.
[03:36] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Other than that does the VM feel responsive?
[03:36] <targetx> yep totally
[03:36] <targetx> doesn't even feel like something JAVA-ish (which usually is slow.. like limewire..)
[03:36] <targetx> I just can't get it to boot from the CD which is in my drive.. pretty odd
[03:37] <ksmurf> crimsun it's not?
[03:37] <[bw] 808y> can someone post me the source.list lines with that i can install valknut(dc client)?
[03:37] <ScatterBrain> targetx: And you're running Breezy?
[03:37] <zblach> hi. quick question. how to play .vob files?
[03:37] <crimsun> ksmurf: it's not in the archive, no.
[03:37] <Hobbsee> !tell [bw] 808y about repositories
[03:37] <ksmurf> dooglus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX?highlight=%28Freenx%29
[03:37] <zblach> i got a dvd, and all it has are folders audio_ts and video_tx
[03:37] <zblach> **ts
[03:38] <jack_> crimsun: sorry for taking so long, wiki says nothing about weather acpi is problamatic
[03:38] <sun_> crimsun:i want to custom ubuntu,make it small,how to do it
[03:38] <dooglus> ksmurf: I see.  It's not available in the official repositories
[03:38] <targetx> ScatterBrain, yes, the latest version
[03:38] <ksmurf> not in seveas
[03:38] <dooglus> ksmurf: my mother always told me not to take binaries from strange men
[03:38] <ksmurf> no in seveas
[03:38] <zblach> .vob, .bup and .ifo
[03:38] <ksmurf> He's an op for the channel
[03:39] <icewt> zblach: try vlc. it can play dvds and supports dvd menus
[03:39] <nalioth> LincTeK: in my experience, i run a dual proc G5 powermac with 2.5gb ram, i hardly ever use more than 756 for regular stuff
[03:39] <dooglus> ksmurf: yes, i know
[03:39] <zblach> icewt, i'm not too familiar with vlc. i have it, but how to use?
[03:39] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Which video card are you using?
[03:39] <crimsun> jack_: so then you want to take a look at /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:39] <bpf> n00b question here: how can I probe my hardware to see which wireless card is built into my laptop? (i'm running breezy)
[03:39] <jack_> crimsun: ok
[03:40] <crimsun> bpf: hotplug+udev are intelligent enough, usually. lspci -v|more
[03:40] <ScatterBrain> targetx: and are you running the stock Ubuntu drivers or the accelerated driver for the card?
[03:40] <ksmurf> dooglus sorry .My wife is in labor.  My humor is not there right now
[03:40] <targetx> for my videocard?
[03:40] <ScatterBrain> targetx: yeah.
[03:40] <targetx> oh sorry didn't read the message above
[03:40] <icewt> zblach: do you have a dvd as a disc, or just the files on your hard drive?
[03:40] <crimsun> sun_: look on the wiki and the mailing list archive
[03:40] <zblach> a disc
[03:40] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I have a NVIDIA Geforce FX 5900XT 128Mb by Club3d and I'm using the Ubuntu provided nvidia-glx drivers
[03:40] <crimsun> doubletwist: doable but very, very painful
[03:40] <ksmurf> can anyone help me get freenx going?  or at least configured?
[03:40] <targetx> (which are the same as from nvidia.com.. I suppose)
[03:40] <crimsun> doubletwist: and I stress -very-
[03:41] <dooglus> ksmurf: were you planning to use freenx to watch the birth remotely?  how long do we have to get it working?
[03:41] <sun_> crimsun:)ok
[03:41] <ScatterBrain> targetx: I've got an ATI x300.  And I'm using the ATI drivers from ATI's site.
[03:41] <doubletwist> See I don't understand that...
[03:41] <ScatterBrain> targetx: I've been wondering I that is part of my problem.
[03:41] <targetx> ScatterBrain, Ati and Linux has allways been a bit more problematic than their Nvidia rivals, but I doubt that that VMWare running slow is the result of their drivers
[03:41] <doubletwist> I used to have an AT&T 6300plus. It was basically a 286 [with some XT parts]  that claimed to be able to run DOS or Unix...
[03:42] <icewt> zblach: well, then you could try file -> open disc -> and write /dev/dvd in the device section (or whatever it was)
[03:42] <targetx> ScatterBrain, try running it in a plain (VESA) X server
[03:42] <Ropechoborra> I got it !! Im downloading the drivers for my modem ! its a PCTEL could it be? And its for linux!! Now what should i do to configure it ???
[03:42] <doubletwist> I never had unix for it, but I presume it had to be usable or they wouldn't have bothered.
[03:42] <doubletwist> And it only had 1MB ram [obviously a gui would be out of the question]
[03:43] <icewt> zblach: or just write dvd:///dev/dvd on the top box
[03:43] <carlosqueso> hey, all, how does one set IRQ's under linux?
[03:43] <Linux_whore> how can i uninstall programs that do not show in synaptic they were a .run file when i installed them
[03:43] <ksmurf> dooglus Just to mangage things here and upload (which I can do with ssh) to the ftp the video.  I was going to do the editing remotly.  She has been having contractions for 2 days so far.... still 2 Hours apart.
[03:43] <crimsun> doubletwist: Ubuntu won't run on a 286
[03:43] <carlosqueso> my wireless card shares one with my sound card and don't get along
[03:43] <doubletwist> crimsun Well yeah I know that. :)
[03:44] <doubletwist> Maybe an old slackware install will work on the 386...
[03:44] <propagandhi> an axe would work on the 386
[03:44] <stuka> hola
[03:44] <doubletwist> haha
[03:44] <yubimusubi> gentoo should have no problem with a 286
[03:44] <jack_> crimsun: what do i do with acpi-support?
[03:44] <carlosqueso> laughing at "axe"
[03:44] <zblach> icewt, i've tried a few combinations, nothing doing
[03:44] <zblach> dvd://media/cdrom <--
[03:44] <doubletwist> yubimusubi All linux has a problem with 286. There's a special kernel you need for 286. Generally linux requires at least 386
[03:44] <dooglus> ksmurf: did you try VNC instead?  It may not be so smooth, but it's probably easier to get working.
[03:44] <crimsun> jack_: uncomment ACPI_SLEEP and ACPI_HIBERNATE if you're sure they'll work
[03:45] <fcfdj> hi how long does ubuntu take to install?
[03:45] <yubimusubi> doubletwist: :P
[03:45] <icewt> zblach: i don't think that would work
[03:45] <fcfdj> its been at 6% for 15 mins
[03:45] <propagandhi> fcfdj: it depends on the loose nut behind the wheel
[03:45] <carlosqueso> fcfdj...20-30 mins on my relatively crappy comp
[03:45] <Xenguy> hah
[03:46] <fcfdj> the puter is 7 years old but its still damn good
[03:46] <Ropechoborra> http://www.modem-help.co.uk/chips/pctamr.html#linuxI got it !! Im downloading the drivers for my modem ! its a PCTEL could it be? And its for linux!! Now what should i do to configure it ???
[03:46] <LincTeK> i did breezy install in about 30 min on 933 intel box
[03:46] <alexandre> hello
[03:46] <fcfdj> it says retreiving all these files
[03:46] <ksmurf> dooglus... nah but it matters not.  I will just sftp it and edit it when I get back to the box.  I wanted to use that machine 3.4GHz 2GB ram and 600GB storage
[03:46] <carlosqueso> no one knows anything about IRQ's huh?
[03:46] <alexandre> ya t'il des francais ce soir ?
[03:46] <Ropechoborra> What is RTFM ??
[03:47] <Ropechoborra> alexandre try #ubuntu-fr
[03:47] <ksmurf> IRQ interupts?
[03:47] <yubimusubi> I did a gentoo in 2 days + another day for xorg on a 686
[03:47] <fcfdj> and i wonder if it messed up when it automatically found my drivers
[03:47] <erickUbuntu> Guys how can I install java
[03:47] <targetx> lol
[03:47] <alexandre> ok
[03:47] <targetx> 'what is rtfm' :D
[03:47] <carlosqueso> ksmurf...yes
[03:47] <alexandre> thanks ^
[03:47] <Ropechoborra> ;)
[03:47] <alexandre> ^^
[03:47] <Hobbsee> !tell erickUbuntu about javadeb
[03:47] <ksmurf> carlos u need?
[03:47] <yubimusubi>  E: Package nvidia-kernel has no installation candidate (???)
[03:47] <carlosqueso> k...yeah, my wireless and sound cards share the same one
[03:47] <erickUbuntu> thanks
[03:48] <carlosqueso> methinks that's why the wireless doesn't work
[03:48] <glick> damn! firefox goes down more then a 2 dollar crack hoe
[03:48] <holy_cow> !javadeb
[03:48] <ubotu> it has been said that javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:48] <Mr-Petah> Ropechoborra, what is your questin?
[03:48] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know anything about java?
[03:48] <VeRiTTo> Hi
[03:48] <holy_cow> oh sweet
[03:48] <VeRiTTo> How can I change the name to my pc?
[03:48] <Mr-Petah> xDDD
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> targetx you told me to ask what RTFM was :P
[03:48] <fcfdj> why does everyone like firefox?
[03:48] <ksmurf> ah and that's no good?.?
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> nonononon
[03:48] <LincTeK> !javadeb
[03:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> Sorry
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> TAB mistake
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> Mr-Petah You! told me
[03:48] <dooglus> fcfdj: they don't.
[03:48] <Ropechoborra> xD
[03:48] <Earthen> could some tell how to block all UDP traffic using Ip tables
[03:49] <Mr-Petah> no, i can't
[03:49] <holy_cow> awesome, jre packaged, nice
[03:49] <carlosqueso> I'm thinking not.....because the wreless messes everything else up
[03:49] <Mr-Petah> xDDD
[03:49] <holy_cow> i hated that sun installer bs
[03:49] <fcfdj> good i think it blows
[03:49] <Ropechoborra> Plz....... How do i configure my modem if i got the drivers???????
[03:49] <carlosqueso> and conflicts with my soundcard
[03:49] <Mr-Petah> question to the channel
[03:49] <carlosqueso> so I'm thinking change it and try
[03:49] <ksmurf> IRQTUNE -- A Linux IRQ Priority Optimizer
[03:49] <dooglus> fcfdj: it has less than 10% market share.  if everyone loved it, wouldn't it be higher?
[03:49] <fcfdj> alot of my buddies say its faster and im like uhh no
[03:49] <zblach> icewt, what would you recommend
[03:49] <dooglus> fcfdj: faster than what?
[03:49] <Ropechoborra> Mr Channel... could you tell me how to configure my modem if i have the drivers????
[03:49] <carlosqueso> kewl...in breezy repos?
[03:49] <fcfdj> ie for windows
[03:50] <sbalneav> lynx is the only good browser.  Well, actually, "telnet host.name 80", is even better.
[03:50] <holy_cow> dooglus, you consider that something to be ashamed of?
[03:50] <Mr-Petah> hey channel, plz, ask Ropechoborra what is RTFM plz :)
[03:50] <SpecialBuddy> what's lynx
[03:50] <fcfdj> they dont know much about computers but they all have firefox for some odd reson
[03:50] <LincTeK> carlo: did you try moving one of your cards to a different pci slot ?
[03:50] <Ropechoborra> What the f*uck is RTFM ??? ! :S
[03:50] <holy_cow> in open source circles thats a hell of an accomplishment except considering the target audience
[03:50] <dooglus> holy_cow: i'm not ashamed, no.  but I consider it to be evidence that not everyone loves firefox
[03:50] <sbalneav> Read The Fine Manual
[03:51] <carlosqueso> LincTek...only got one on stupid lappy
[03:51] <Mr-Petah> sbalneav, xDDDDDDD nono...... say wath is realyxd
[03:51] <Mr-Petah> xDDD
[03:51] <holy_cow> dooglus, i think your miscategorizing the situation
[03:51] <LincTeK> oh lappy
[03:51] <fcfdj> i am about to install linux on my old puter because i got a new laptop
[03:51] <holy_cow> it is just as likely that most people simply have never have heard of it
[03:51] <carlosqueso> yeah :-(....price I pay for convience
[03:51] <dooglus> holy_cow: there are an awful lot of windows zealots out there
[03:51] <fcfdj> i havent used linux in 7 years whats new?
[03:51] <Linux_whore> how can i remove something that was installed from a .run file and it doesnt show in synaptic
[03:51] <targetx> better sound support
[03:51] <dooglus> holy_cow: also, lots of people are suspicious of free software
[03:52] <holy_cow> dooglus, true, most home comp users i would categorize simply as clueless however
[03:52] <holy_cow> the zealots tend to be vb programmers and mcse's
[03:52] <Earthen> dooglus: lol I think of it as more like only 10% of computer user are intelengent computer users :)
[03:52] <targetx> WOW.. enabling legacy mode for your cdrom drive in VMWare seriously kills performance
[03:52] <dooglus> holy_cow: right.  most people don't know how to program their videos either
[03:52] <holy_cow> dooglus, heh, if that were only true there would be no such thing as spyware :)
[03:52] <Toma-> is gnome ment to be able to use .xpm icons on the panel?
[03:52] <targetx> yea
[03:53] <holy_cow> dooglus, i think if for example google actively promoted mozilla whatever, they could get that 10% way up there
[03:53] <dooglus> holy_cow: lots of spyware gets installed without consent using IE holes.  "drive-by installs"
[03:53] <holy_cow> at this point its a marketing issue, you need to get in front of everyones face and scream at them to use it
[03:53] <carlosqueso> kmurf...thx for the tip....found irqtune and will try it
[03:54] <carlosqueso> cow...ask jehova's witnesses how that works
[03:54] <ScatterBrain> targetx: You're right - video isn't the problem.
[03:54] <fcfdj> ha
[03:54] <dooglus> holy_cow: it's probably a good idea to iron out a few more of the bugs before spending too much on marketing.
[03:54] <targetx> ScatterBrain, ahh good, at least noww e know what's NOT it :-0
[03:54] <chickFlick> anybody know about vim colouring
[03:54] <holy_cow> dooglus, indeed
[03:54] <Earthen> I think the main reason is the IE is allready there in windows and lets face most normal people will think that i is good enough why bother download something differant
[03:54] <holy_cow> 1.5 is amazing memory wise
[03:54] <LincTeK> anyone seen those commercials for windows ...saying how much stuff windows can do for ya
[03:55] <holy_cow> i opened up 100 tabs in 1.5 rc whatever and it didn't eath hardly any ram for example
[03:55] <dooglus> holy_cow: if your unique selling point is that it's a secure browser then you look pretty silly when 7 security-fix versions come out one after the other after the big launch of 1.0
[03:55] <fcfdj> i think so
[03:55] <holy_cow> it was magic :)
[03:55] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I had to enable LEgacy CDROM Access to get VMWare to work with it, now my whole Ubuntu box is slugish cause ofi t. Is this cause it has to emulate the cd drive or something?
[03:55] <rain`> Anyone in here running dual head mode that can check a bug for me?
[03:55] <cyphase> LincTek, those are for Microsoft in general
[03:55] <bimberi> chickFlick: once in vi, type :syn on
[03:55] <holy_cow> dooglus, indeed, ff has a lot of tightening to do in that end
[03:55] <targetx> can't even play music anymore. .bah
[03:55] <ScatterBrain> targetx: Yeah.
[03:56] <holy_cow> i use epiphany in gnome however, i love the integration with the de
[03:56] <targetx> ScatterBrain, I'll have to get that fixed then.. before I enabled legacy mode preformance was great
[03:56] <dooglus> holy_cow: I raised a bug recently against firefox - it was crashing when I visited a certain page.  the responses seemed to suggest that nobody really understands the code properly.  they kind of half-fixed the bug, and left it at that.
[03:56] <targetx> * sorry for typo's btw it's realyl hard to type correct when everything lags
[03:56] <fcfdj> the ubuntu setup is still at 6%
[03:56] <dooglus> holy_cow: it doesn't inspire too much hope for the future
[03:57] <DjKritical> For apache do I need the apache2 pakage? or apache2-common?
[03:57] <targetx> fcfdj, press CTRL+ALT+F2/F3 toc heck status
[03:57] <fcfdj> that can't be right?
[03:57] <LincTeK> fcfdi : try starting over
[03:57] <chickFlick> bimberi, thanks
[03:57] <holy_cow> dooglus, for what version? 1.5rc?
[03:57] <dooglus> holy_cow: yes
[03:57] <targetx> LincTeK, that  sounds windoow-ish
[03:57] <fcfdj> the files it is retrieving chnages its not frozen its just running extremely slow
[03:58] <targetx> then just sit it out
[03:58] <holy_cow> *shrug* one can say the same about pretty much anything tho
[03:58] <dooglus> holy_cow: but it's an old bug I think - present in 1.0 too
[03:58] <bimberi> chickFlick: yw :) - you can set it permanently in you .vimrc file (see vimtutor for details)
[03:58] <fcfdj> i feel lniux is going to be hard to operate if i cant even install it lol
[03:58] <carlosqueso> irqtune doesn't like me :-(
[03:59] <carlosqueso> fcfdj...depends on what you want it to do
[03:59] <holy_cow> i don't consider ff having any real problems that most people claim as issues
[03:59] <holy_cow> the one thing i would say is an issue with ff is integration
[03:59] <LincTeK> fcfdj : how fast is the machine you are installing it on ?
[03:59] <holy_cow> it will never be able to integrate properly with whatever hosting environment
[03:59] <holy_cow> however
[03:59] <chickFlick> bimberi, thaks a lot.. where is the file .vimrc
[03:59] <holy_cow> opera integrates far less and they are doing fine, so who knows
[04:00] <fcfdj> 450 pII xenon with 512 + 128 mb
[04:00] <targetx> ScatterBrain, the instalation will take approx. 40 more minutes I'm affraid (Windows XP Pro)
[04:00] <bimberi> chickFlick: it's not created by default but needs to be in your home directory (/home/<username>)
[04:00] <targetx> fcfdj, lol can't you count 512+128 or.. ?
[04:00] <fcfdj> its a beast for 7 years old
[04:00] <ReleaseX> what's the best way to install skype? with the debian repo or following the ubuntuguide
[04:01] <fcfdj> actually now that is is written down
[04:01] <LincTeK> fcfdj: probally take over 30 min or more to fully install
[04:01] <targetx> apt-get install skype I think
[04:01] <fcfdj> i didnt feel like working
[04:01] <bimberi> ReleaseX: do you have breezy?
[04:01] <ScatterBrain> targetx: If you're willing to wait in here that long, I'll hang around.
[04:01] <fcfdj> it has been stuck at 6% for quite some time
[04:01] <holy_cow> ReleaseX, they have ubuntu debs on their site, no?
[04:01] <targetx> yeah I don't have anything to do tomorrow annyway.. it's allready 4AM though..
[04:01] <fcfdj> but it is showing some signs of action in the file names
[04:02] <targetx> but will sit this out.. wanna see if it works :)
[04:02] <LincTeK> grab a snack and chill i guess
[04:02] <carlosqueso> hmmbm...wireless card  causes keyboard...... to go all screwy
[04:02] <targetx> fcfdj, as long as VC2  or 3 show some movement..
[04:02] <carlosqueso> some sort of conflict
[04:02] <carlosqueso> ?
[04:02] <nalioth> ReleaseX: best not to follow ubuntuguide
[04:02] <[koji] > anyone using network manager?
[04:03] <fcfdj> do u find that out by pressing ctrl alt f2?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> fcfdj: yes
[04:03] <ReleaseX> bimberi: i have breezy
[04:03] <bimberi> ReleaseX: skype packaged for breezy -> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (breezy-extras)
[04:03] <jonny_> iv tried EVERYTHING and i cant get rid of kubuntu-desktop!
[04:04] <targetx> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop -f
[04:04] <ReleaseX> bimberi: thanks
[04:04] <bimberi> ReleaseX: yw :)
[04:05] <rmd> hi there
[04:05] <flocrypt> hello ubuntus
[04:05] <targetx> hi!
[04:05] <Sean89> Hello, I am having problems mounting a windows folder with ubuntu live cd
[04:05] <carlosqueso> wish I had insurance on this lappy....an "accident"   would befall it
[04:06] <flocrypt> i could use some help with a soundproblem...
[04:06] <crimsun> flocrypt: shoot.
[04:06] <flocrypt> yeah
[04:06] <worthawholebean> Where are the ops on this channel? just curious
[04:06] <Hobbsee> worthawholebean: they're around
[04:06] <flocrypt> so my soundcard is listed with lspci but it is not installed
[04:06] <targetx> RIGHT behind you waiting to G-Line you :P
[04:07] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:07] <worthawholebean> lol
[04:07] <rmd> lol
[04:07] <Madpilot> worthawholebean: #ubuntu's ops tend to lurk; trolls tend not to notice the fin in the water until it's too late
[04:07] <Hobbsee> worthawholebean: most of them dont keep their op status all the time, but i know that they're definetly around
[04:07] <Madpilot> ;)
[04:07] <fluvvell> anybody real good at wireless?  I moved away from my ap and now cant connect with my laptop (without rebooting)
[04:07] <Sean89> The Windows folder is "<IP_ADDRESS>/SharedDocs/tiger" and I want to mount it to "/mnt/tiger" I am running the live cd. How can I properly mount it?
[04:07] <crimsun> (the bot has a list of ops.)
[04:07] <zeroth_> Hi, how do I add a wireless device to my system sofware-wise. I don't think I placed the little plus sign next to it when I installed it. Or then I did and it just doesn't work. Can someone help me with that?
[04:08] <zeroth_> Basically, I have no idea what I'm doing.
[04:08] <holy_cow> zeroth_, it really depends on the wireless card
[04:08] <holy_cow> is it a pcmcia t ype for a laptop?
[04:08] <zeroth_> Inter Pro something.
[04:08] <holy_cow> what type/model?
[04:08] <zeroth_> I think.
[04:08] <crimsun> flocrypt: and what is the sound chipset from lspci -v|grep -i audio ?
[04:08] <Epix> can someone from canada pastebin their sources.list file for me. thanks. mine is bork3d
[04:09] <zeroth_> holy_cow, I'm not sure.
[04:09] <zeroth_> The one that qualifies as centrino.
[04:09] <Sean89> Again - The Windows folder is "<IP_ADDRESS>/SharedDocs/tiger" and I want to mount it to "/mnt/tiger" I am running the live cd. How can I properly mount it?
[04:09] <fluvvell> holy_cow: do use wireless with ubuntu?
[04:09] <targetx> Intel ProWireless that is :)
[04:09] <fcfdj> i restarted and I am wondering weither i should erase or erase using lvm??
[04:09] <flocrypt> crimsun: 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[04:09] <flocrypt>         Subsystem: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
[04:09] <Tido> dumb newbie question. If I create a new user and I (the administrator) want to get into their home directory to put something there, how do I override those permissions?
[04:09] <fcfdj> whats is lvm?
[04:09] <zeroth_> targetx, probably, yeah.
[04:10] <herrpoonstrikes> hi can someone help me im having problems with firestarter and samba
[04:10] <targetx> ipw2200 driver it is
[04:10] <fluvvell> targetx: Im using Intel Prowireless on my HP/Compaq with ubuntu!
[04:10] <carlosqueso> tudo..with sudo
[04:10] <crimsun> flocrypt: is this a new motherboard?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> !tell epix about sources
[04:10] <targetx> fluvvell, I used to do that on my Dell laptop
[04:10] <zeroth_> fluvvell, how do I do it?
[04:10] <Tido> sudo cd theirhomedirectory >
[04:10] <Tido> ?
[04:10] <carlosqueso> holy_cow...you on wireless?
[04:10] <holy_cow> zeroth_, when installing devinces on linux, you always need to know what the hardware is (model/make), then need to find out if its supported, and if it is find the proper instructions for installing via google
[04:10] <fcfdj> i restarted and I am wondering weither i should erase or erase using lvm??
[04:10] <carlosqueso> tido...sudo -i to keep root
[04:11] <fluvvell> targetx: it just installed correctly (its onboard) when I installed ubuntu
[04:11] <carlosqueso> then cd to thier home