[20:26] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744667/ i believe the error is user is root
[20:27] <shaneo_> pepee and no to the firewall
[20:27] <compi> urlin2u, this enables me to start up in ubuntu and all works fine , untill I sut down, then I get a black screen at the next start...
[20:27] <reisio> cybermolly10: ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com
[20:27] <mongy> cybermolly10: it says "Operating systems: WIN2000/XP/VISTA/WIN7/LINUX/WINCE"  as does mine, so I can say its safe to assume it will work fine.
[20:27] <yeats> shaneo_: no - owner should be root
[20:27] <cybermolly10> reisio: do you want me to type more, it goes on for a while
[20:27] <shaneo_> oh ok hmm
[20:27] <StepNjump> ikonia in fdisk -l I see my sdb1
[20:28] <cybermolly10> reisio: am I actually supposed to type the yahoo part?
[20:28] <pepee> shaneo_, run wine
[20:28] <reisio> cybermolly10: yes
[20:28] <StepNjump> ikonia, in fact, EVERYTHING got umounted at once!
[20:28] <ikonia> StepNjump: why did you open fdisk when I told you to re-open gparted
[20:28] <shaneo_> pepee no such file or directory
[20:29] <cybermolly10> reisio: unknown host www.yahoo.com
[20:29] <ikonia> StepNjump: I'm not interested any more, I see no point in advising you if you ignore it after being told 2 times what to do and doing something different
[20:29] <pepee> shaneo_, you have a strange problem...
[20:29] <StepNjump> ikonia, well because I know fdisk -l doesn't write anything to the disk, just reads
[20:29] <shaneo_> pepee it appears to be so
[20:29] <yeats> shaneo_: what is the literal command you ran?
[20:29] <StepNjump> Ok sorry, I will do as you say ikonia hold on please sorry
[20:29] <shaneo_> wine
[20:29] <pepee> really sesrious problem
[20:29] <ikonia> StepNjump: neither does gparted as I've told you 2 times - good luck sorting your issue out
[20:29] <ikonia> StepNjump: I'm not interested any more
[20:29] <yeats> shaneo_: please do 'echo $PATH'
[20:29] <reisio> cybermolly10: ah, here we are: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701471
[20:30] <StepNjump> ok ikonia sorry
[20:30] <shaneo_> yeats http://paste.ubuntu.com/744671/
[20:31] <pepee> /usr/bin is there
[20:31] <yeats> yep
[20:31] <StepNjump> sorry ikonia, I'm new. I won't do it again if you will ever forgive me. Just a fyi for you: partition seems to be intact. Thanks again :(
[20:31] <reisio> cybermolly10: actually forget that for a moment and run this: lsmod | grep 2800
[20:31] <StepNjump> I'll now reboot
[20:32] <cybermolly10> reisio: I tuped that in, and a bunch of stuff came up, no idea what it means
[20:32] <pepee> shaneo_, output of 'ps axuf', please
[20:32] <mongy> cybermolly10: just so you know, that usb wifi adapter has the rtl8188 chip which is the same as mine..
[20:33] <pepee> shaneo_, and /usr/bin/wine
[20:33] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay, heh
[20:33] <reisio> cybermolly10: try this one instead: lsmod | grep -i rt2800usb
[20:33] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744675/
[20:34] <compi>  My ubuntu used to work fine but since I added a NTFS HDD it started playing up with the black screen issue.  I am running ubuntu studio 11.04. It has served me well for over 6 months. Then I added a SATA NTFS HDD. I messed around with storage device manager to try and get the new drive mounted. I now have my file system hard drive showing mounted twice in places. I ended up using NTFS configuration tool to get the NTFS drive mounted. The SATA now works fine
[20:34] <compi> . The NTFS drive does not have a operating system on it.  After shut down the ubuntu recovery screen comes into view: http://files.digitizor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ubuntu-recovery.jpg.  I then choose grub from this menu: http://files.digitizor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ubuntu-root.jpg. This enables me to start up in ubuntu and all works fine , until I shut down, then I get a black screen at the next start. How do I fix this?
[20:34] <cybermolly10> reisio: didn't do anything
[20:34] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay now this: sudo modprobe rt2800usb
[20:34] <yeats> shaneo_: similar issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846286
[20:34] <shaneo_> pepee http://paste.ubuntu.com/744679/
[20:34] <reisio> cybermolly10: and then run the previous command again
[20:35] <pierre_> ikonia, nothing broken! I had no backup yet! :)
[20:35] <cybermolly10> reisio: which one do you mean?
[20:35] <bunkka> Hey all, I am wondering if anyone has experience with using ffmpeg encode-handheld-5.6 on a mac?
[20:35] <ikonia> pierre_: what ?
[20:35] <yeats> shaneo_: maybe this?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/852101
[20:35] <shaneo_> thanks yeats ill check it out gonna run out for a bit
[20:35] <reisio> cybermolly10: run 'sudo modprobe rt2800usb', then 'lsmod | grep -i rt2800usb'
[20:36]  * StepNjump2 pierre_ is StepNjump
[20:36] <yeats> shaneo_: sure ;-)  good luck
[20:36] <cybermolly10> reisio: bunch of stuff, don't know what it means
[20:36] <reisio> cybermolly10: for the second one?
[20:36] <cybermolly10> reisio: um, yes?
[20:37] <reisio> cybermolly10: k
[20:37] <reisio> cybermolly10: now 'sudo ifconfig wlan0' and then 'ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com'
[20:37] <cybermolly10> reisio: btw, I already followed directions very similar to the link you sent me, the problem is when I try "make && sudo make install" I get a couple of errors
[20:37] <pepee> yeats, lol, very strange bug
[20:37] <shaneo_> thanks again yeats and peppe
[20:37] <yeats> pepee: yes!
[20:37] <reisio> cybermolly10: yeah but I told you to ignore that for now :p
[20:38] <yeats> shaneo_: happy to help
[20:38] <cybermolly10> reisio: unknown host again
[20:39] <cybermolly10> reisio: and I was just letting you know, I think my kernels aren't up to date or installed or somehting, I really got in over my head when I installed this
[20:39] <reisio> cybermolly10: possibly, we're going to check that next
[20:39] <reisio> cybermolly10: uname -r
[20:40] <Kiwii> Hi, If my vserver is always in runlevel 6, something is wrong, isn't it?
[20:40] <cybermolly10> when you say "uname" you mean cybermolly10 right?
[20:40] <Resistance> cybermolly10:  no, in terminal, uname -r
[20:40] <Resistance> cybermolly10:  its a command
[20:40] <reisio> cybermolly10: no :)
[20:40] <kmod> Kiwii: pretty sure run level 6 is reboot
[20:40] <reisio> cybermolly10: run the command 'uname -r', tell me what it says
[20:40] <yeats> shaneo_: if you're still around, I would try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-i386'
[20:41] <cybermolly10> reisio: 3.0.0-12-generic
[20:43] <reisio> cybermolly10: echo 'rt2800usb' >> /etc/modules
[20:43] <reisio> cybermolly10: then reboot
[20:43] <Kiwii> kmod: yeah, It works fine, except it will not start any services on system start on it's own, so I checked and the runlevel command says "6 6" wich is kind of strange
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> reisio: that will need runing after: sudo -i
[20:44] <cybermolly10> reisio: permission denied
[20:44]  * reisio sighs
[20:44] <reisio> ActionParsnip: why tell me?
[20:44] <reisio> cybermolly10: prefix with sudo
[20:44] <Icy_mist566> Hello, thanks to the person who help me last time, but i have another question, I have a partition that is set up to hold things so i can transfer files  between the two operating systems im running, It is a ntfs formatted partition, how can i set it up to automatically mount on startup
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> reisio: echo "rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[20:45] <reisio> ActionParsnip: dear god in heaven, why are you telling me that
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> reisio: users cannot write to /etc/modules   it is owned by root:root
[20:45] <reisio> cybermolly10: sudo gedit /etc/modules, add rt2800usb, save & exit
[20:45] <cybermolly10> reisio: still denied
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> reisio: gksudo for gedit
[20:45] <reisio> ActionParsnip: do you realize that it's cybermolly10 that has the problem?
[20:46] <reisio> I mean I know you don't, but I wish you would
[20:46] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> reisio: just pointing out the right way to do things :)
[20:46] <reisio> ActionParsnip: please, please stop talking to me
[20:46] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, the terminal closed, now what?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: run:  echo "rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[20:46] <reisio> cybermolly10: a text editor should've opened
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: it will add the line to the file for you
[20:46] <mongy> lol
[20:47] <cybermolly10> reisio: a text editor did not open, also, should I do the thing ActionParsnip suggested
[20:47] <kmod> Kiwii: try telinit 2?
[20:47] <reisio> cybermolly10: sure
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: the command reisio gave won't work as the command will run as your user, so you will get access denied
[20:48] <Kiwii> kmod: okay, now it is in runlevel 2, but will it stay there upon reboot?
[20:48] <reisio> cybermolly10: yes, all the stuff you already knew
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: and sudo does not traverse the >> so prepending with sudo (as you would expect) won't work either
[20:48] <kmod> I don't really remember much about run levels
[20:48] <cybermolly10> ActionParsnip: yeah, it didn't work, it says run is not a command
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: you don't add the 'run:' bit, that's just my instruction
[20:49] <cybermolly10> ActionParsnip: lol, sorry, I'm very new to this
[20:49] <kmod> afk.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: you'll learn as you use the OS
[20:50] <cybermolly10> ActionParsnip: it says rt2800usb
[20:51] <RidDrib> Hello
[20:51] <bgodole> just learned that today is UCADay, and wanted to say
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: that's fine, it will echo to the terminal too, you can check the file has what is needed with:  cat /etc/modules
[20:52] <bgodole> Thank you! Ubuntu team, contributors and supporters
[20:53] <cybermolly10> ActionParsnip: lp rt2800usb
[20:53]  * reisio headdesks
[20:53] <gajbooks> I have an everex NC 1502, the CD drive has died so I am trying to boot from USB, but it says "Operating system not found".
[20:53] <reisio> cybermolly10: are they separated by a space or a newline?
[20:53] <cybermolly10> reisio: are you still with me, or should i just buy a new adapter?
[20:53] <reisio> you don't need a new adapter
[20:53] <cybermolly10> new line
[20:54] <reisio> okay
[20:54] <reisio> try rebooting
[20:54] <reisio> and see if it works
[20:54] <gajbooks> I used Unetbootin to create the flash drive.
[20:54] <Bill9929> #chris
[20:54] <Bill9929> oops
[20:55] <rangga> hALO
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: then it's added :)
[20:55] <rangga> naa'
[20:55] <rangga> kaa
[20:55] <noxy_> hey i have no sound since i went from xp to ubuntu - i have a creative labs sound audigy card and it seems to be showing up in the sound settings - any ideas
[20:55] <rangga> a
[20:55] <rangga> da
[20:55] <rangga> da
[20:55] <rangga> da
[20:55] <rangga> da
[20:55] <FloodBot1> rangga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <cybermolly10> reisio: rebooted, still don't see anything in the wireless connections
[20:56] <Nisk> How edit the Start Menu in Gnome 3 Classic?
[20:56] <reisio> cybermolly10: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[20:56] <gajbooks> Any ideas on how to help me?
[20:56] <kmod> and now I need help.
[20:57] <kmod> When I update the kernel, it can't find the wl module for broadcom cards
[20:57] <cybermolly10> reisio: linux-firmware is already the newest verision, 0 ugraded, etc
[20:57] <reisio> gajbooks: with what?
[20:57] <kmod> So I got the source to ocmpile, but when I try to compile it on the new kernel, I get the following:
[20:57] <gajbooks> reisio: Look up.
[20:57] <kmod> http://pastebin.com/Vb704Fkj
[20:57] <reisio> gajbooks: pass
[20:59] <gajbooks> I created it on a Mac if that makes an difference.
[20:59] <guntbert> kmod: why on earth are you trying to compile a new kernel?
[20:59] <kmod> New module, not kernel
[21:00] <noxy_> i cannot seem to access the gnome alsa mixer, everytime i click on it, it doesnt appear
[21:00] <kmod> guntbert: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[21:00] <kmod> Trying to compile that driver
[21:00] <reisio> cybermolly10: sudo ifconfig -a | egrep '^[a-z]+0'
[21:01] <MrS1lentcz> back :)
[21:01] <Icy_mist566> ok, so i modified my fstab, but when i start up it says that its not present or not ready
[21:01] <gajbooks> Would there be any way to boot a USB Ubuntu from the windows command line?
[21:02] <reisio> Icy_mist566: says what now?  What are you trying to accomplish?
[21:02] <reisio> gajbooks: to what end
[21:02] <cybermolly10> reisio: ethO link encar: ethernet HWaddr 00:24:8c:ea:f9:43
[21:02] <reisio> cybermolly10: that's it?
[21:02] <cybermolly10> reisio: wlan0 link encap:ethernet HWaddr 00:22:43:64:de:73
[21:02] <guntbert> kmod: did you read the README?
[21:02] <gajbooks> reisio: To in the end, install Ubuntu on the HD.
[21:02] <kmod> guntbert: yes
[21:03] <reisio> cybermolly10: ah :)
[21:03] <cybermolly10> reisio: sorry, i can only type gobbledygook so fast
[21:03] <reisio> gajbooks: you can't put the install image onto a USB?
[21:03] <reisio> cybermolly10: 's'okay :)
[21:03] <guntbert> kmod: they say:"Some distros (Ubuntu and Fedora at the least) already have a version of this driver in their repositories precompiled, tested and ready to go."
[21:03] <gajbooks> reisio: I have the installer on the U
[21:04] <gajbooks> sb drive
[21:04] <MrS1lentcz> i cant install ubuntu/kubuntu sucessfully, but i found tutorial for mac and created new "msdos" partition and kubuntu was installed sucessfully, but after start pc, black screen are blinking...
[21:04] <MrS1lentcz> aaaa
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> noxy_: try alsamixer    in terminal
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> MrS1lentcz: which GPU do you use?
[21:04] <gajbooks> I used Unetbootin but the computer won't recognize it.
[21:04] <reisio> gajbooks: ah
[21:04] <reisio> gajbooks: what version of Ubuntu?
[21:04] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: nvidia
[21:04] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: gt520
[21:05] <kmod> guntbert: on the original install. jockey-gtk gives me the proprietary driver, but not on the updated kernel
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> MrS1lentcz: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[21:05] <reisio> cybermolly10: and sudo ifconfig | grep UP ?
[21:05] <gajbooks> ActionParsnip: No, let me try it.
[21:05] <shane__oo> yeats and pepee found the fix to that wine error in the bug report it was a bug in the libs
[21:05] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: ok
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: you currently do not know if the ISO is complete and consistent
[21:05] <shane__oo> the fox was sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-i386
[21:05] <kmod> guntbert: I came upon this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1390979
[21:05] <noxy_> action parsnip that worked.. but not sure what to do from here
[21:05] <shane__oo> *fix
[21:05] <cybermolly10> reisio: do I type the "and"?
[21:05] <yeats> shane__oo: good
[21:05] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: If you're trying to dual boot with Ubuntu and OSX (and not Windows) then you don't want to be using an msdos partition table, you want to be using pure GPT. What guide are you following?
[21:05] <kmod> but I can't even get past `make'
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> noxy_: press ESC to exit and use M to un/mute, cursors to select channel and increase/decrease
[21:06] <reisio> cybermolly10: no
[21:06] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: no... i try install kubuntu on empty hdd
[21:06] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: OK, what guide are you following?
[21:07] <ubuntu-noob> Greetings, i am running the most recent stable release of Ubuntu (oclelot) on a Alienware M14x , i have been running in to some difficulty with certain aplicatons because they can not "inilalize openGL" or "GLX" does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:07] <cybermolly10> reisio: grep: ?: no such file or directory
[21:07] <reisio> cybermolly10: sudo ifconfig | grep UP
[21:07] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: but i had maybe broken partition table... i mean "efi" nedeed msdos partition table, so i installed kubuntu sucessfully  at last
[21:07] <guntbert> kmod: that thread is with regard to much older kernels - not sure if it still is applicable
[21:07] <cybermolly10> reisio: sorry about that, can't tell code from comments
[21:08] <cybermolly10> reisio: it says "UP Broadcast multicast ntu:1500 Netric:1
[21:08] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: where can i set this option? to grub.cfg ?
[21:08] <noxy_> actionparsnip is there a usual issue with sound cards that i should be aware of
[21:08] <cybermolly10> reisio: Up loopback running ntu:16336 Netric:1
[21:08] <kmod> guntbert: but I don't see why `make' wont work
[21:09] <cybermolly10> reisio: up broadcast multicast mtu:1500 Metric:1
[21:09] <ubuntu-noob> Greetings all!
[21:09] <gajbooks> ActionParsnip: The image is fine.
[21:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay, so if you just run 'sudo ifconfig' after wlan0 does it say UP?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> MrS1lentcz: in /etc/default/grub    then run:  sudo update-grub     you can hold shift at boot and add it for that boot temporarily until you get the proprietary driver
[21:09] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: hi
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: cool,and did you use unetbootin to transfer the ISO (and not extract it)
[21:10] <ubuntu-noob> reisio: do i just ask my question or do i need to wait for something specal, im new to this
[21:10] <noxy_> i am trying this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-no-sound-sound-blaster-audigy-after-upgrading-from-ubuntu-9-04-to-9-10.html
[21:10] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: you have to wait for me to say "french fries"
[21:10] <gajbooks> ActionParsnip: Extract?
[21:10] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: french fries
[21:10] <ubuntu-noob> well i am running the most recent stable release of Ubuntu (oclelot) on a Alienware M14x , i have been running in to some difficulty with certain aplicatons because they can not "inilalize openGL" or "GLX" does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: yes, did you manually extract the ISO (you aren't supposed to)?
[21:10] <gajbooks> No.
[21:11] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: do you have a nvidia graphics card?
[21:11] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, the last section starts with wlan0, and the second line of that section starts with "UP"
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> gajbooks: which OS are you making the bootable USB in?
[21:12] <gajbooks> Mac OS X 10.7.
[21:12] <ubuntu-noob> yes, and i have been fighting with it for a while.....
[21:12] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: Please answer my question.
[21:12] <guntbert> kmod: you gave a very short  output, what was the command you entered, and where did you enter it?
[21:12] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: did you do anything like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:12] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay, that is promising, I'd say
[21:12] <cybermolly10> reisio: really?
[21:13] <reisio> not as promising as you pinging things, but yeah
[21:13] <kmod> guntbert: I don't feel like rebooting all over again, so I'll just try it from the current kernel and paste the results
[21:13] <Icy_mist566> I am trying to have my ntfs partition automatically mounted on startup
[21:13] <ubuntu-noob> reisio: i have been using that exact driver but programs such as mixxx and minecraft still dont work, each time the error comes back to GLX or open GL,
[21:14] <kish> i got a problem with unity. i want the old gnome back. is there an easy way to get it back?
[21:14] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i didnt understand your question...
[21:14] <guntbert> kmod: hint for the future: install dkms, it *should* recompile kernel modules after every kernel upgrade automatically
[21:14] <ubuntu-noob> kish: what version r u on?
[21:14] <reisio> ubuntu-noob: try running sudo nvidia-xconfig and then restarting
[21:15] <kmod> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/Vb704Fkj
[21:15] <kish> 11.10 ubuntu-noob
[21:15] <yarrow> anyone know of an easy way to add the medibuntu repository?  I'm trying the script on the wiki page, but it just stalls.  Must be an easier way than this.
[21:15] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz: You said you were following a guide. What guide are you following?
[21:15] <kish> unity is not working well. it cuts the screen in half
[21:15] <reisio> cybermolly10: now you're in... GNOME? 11.10?
[21:15] <kmod> guntbert: oh, that might work
[21:15] <cybermolly10> reisio: yes
[21:15] <kmod> guntbert: I thought I had that already, but it appears it was an outdated version
[21:15] <reisio> yarrow: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ ?
[21:16] <reisio> cybermolly10: and you have a wireless router that's enabled?
[21:16] <ubuntu-noob> kish: when you log in there is a menu on the log in screen, you can select the desktop environment you want from this menu,
[21:16] <cybermolly10> reisio: yes, that's how I'm talking to you :-)
[21:16] <MrS1lentcz> Jordan_U: i wrote, i installed kubuntu and after start pc, only black screen are blinking - grub menu doesnt start
[21:16] <kmod> aaand, it still gives the same error after dkms got updated
[21:16] <reisio> cybermolly10: you multi-computer haver
[21:17] <cybermolly10> reisio: thank god, since I cant get ubuntu to do anything
[21:17] <robin0800> ! notunity | kish
[21:18] <reisio> cybermolly10: okay do you know where the wireless configurator is?
[21:18] <Kmus> Server Identify KillerJim
[21:18] <Jordan_U> MrS1lentcz:  "13:04 < MrS1lentcz> i cant install ubuntu/kubuntu sucessfully, but i found tutorial for mac and created new "msdos" partition and kubuntu was installed sucessfully" What tutorial were you reffering to?
[21:18] <cybermolly10> reisio: um, no
[21:18] <cybermolly10> reisio: I know where the router is
[21:18] <yarrow> reisio:  no, no medibuntu on that page.  Used to be a simple matter of just entering another repos in sources.list, but the medibuntu page lists a script that uses wget to construct a new list.  Why be simple when you can be complicated.
[21:18] <reisio> cybermolly10: as long as it's on and you know the login info, the router is all set
[21:18] <reisio> yarrow: weeee
[21:19] <cybermolly10> reisio: taht is one thing I do know
[21:19] <guntbert> kmod: sorry, I'm not really good with troublesome kernel modules, but to me it appears that you did something weird to your system (2.6.32 and 3.0.9 ??)
[21:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: how about a network-looking-ish icon at top right?
[21:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: little bars maybe
[21:19] <cybermolly10> reisio: it is an empty slice of pie
[21:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: if you say so :)
[21:19] <reisio> cybermolly10: try to connect to your router
[21:20] <kmod> guntbert: I said I'm trying to compile it for the new kernel, as I'm on the old one right now to use the internet, I was just testing the make command to see if it'd still fail
[21:20] <cybermolly10> reisio: um, how?
[21:20] <kmod> I didn't feel like rebooting all over again without at least a test first
[21:20] <reisio> cybermolly10: should be intuitive, isn't there 'connect to wireless...' or 'add' or something?
[21:20] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[21:20] <reisio> CharminTheMoose: specific devices, or random ones?
[21:21] <cybermolly10> reisio: the ones taht aren't greyed out say :connect to hidden wireless netowrk", "create new wireless network", "VPN connections
[21:21] <cybermolly10> reisio: and then enable netowrking and enable wireless are both checked
[21:21] <guntbert> kmod: yes, but if I remember correctly 2.6.32 was on maveric and 3.0 is on oneiric - two steps apart
[21:21] <reisio> cybermolly10: create sounds good
[21:21] <cybermolly10> reisio: I tried that before and it didn't work, for the network name, do I use the same name as the connection I see on my apple?
[21:21] <kmod> guntbert: 2.6.32 is ubuntu 10.04
[21:22] <reisio> cybermolly10: if you want, that part should be irrelevant to it actually working
[21:22] <noxy_> any reason why update manager aint opening when i click it??
[21:22] <kmod> and 3.0 is a... kernel I compiled
[21:22] <reisio> cybermolly10: may as well use the same one
[21:22] <illbequick> Hi guys! How can I know the package name that "Additional Drivers" app is trying to install?
[21:22] <gizmo> noxy: are you an administor?
[21:22] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, and then I don't know what to choose for "Wireless security", I know the password, I just don't know what kind of password it is
[21:22] <kmod> guntbert: note though, I used the old config for the 2.6 kernel, I didn't change any of the wireless module settings
[21:23] <reisio> cybermolly10: did you setup the router yourself?
[21:23] <guntbert> kmod: ah..., this channle doesn't support self compiled kernels
[21:23] <noxy_> gizmo - i am
[21:23] <guntbert> *channel
[21:23] <kmod> guntbert: also I had this problem before using backtracks or whatever it was called, to get new kernel modules for old kernels or something of the sort
[21:23] <cybermolly10> reisio: no, probably the comcast guy
[21:23] <kmod> guntbert: I had the same problem with backports
[21:23] <reisio> cybermolly10: k, what're the choices?
[21:23] <illbequick> It's trying to install "Broadcom STA Wireless Driver" - do you guys know how I can install it via apt-get?
[21:23] <gajbooks> Is there any way I could boot my flash drive from a windows commad line?
[21:24] <BlueHighwind> holy monkey shit there's a lot of people on this chatroom
[21:24] <BlueHighwind> congrats for having so many people
[21:24] <GuilhermeAug> Chat Portuguese?
[21:24]  * BlueHighwind kills himself
[21:24] <FloodBot1> BlueHighwind: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <cybermolly10> wep 40/1238 big key (hex or ascii), wep 128-bit passphrase, or wpa & wpa2 Personal
[21:24] <psusi> gajbooks, booting it means you aren't running windows, so no...
[21:24] <gizmo> noxy: try running update-manager in the terminal
[21:24] <kmod> guntbert: can I query you?
[21:25] <mongy> cybermolly10: is it 8 chars or more?
[21:25] <guntbert> kmod: sorry, I can not really help, I was trying to make things a little clearer
[21:25] <cybermolly10> mongy: it is exactly 8 characters
[21:25] <mongy> cybermolly10: trial and error, try wep then try wpa. :)
[21:25] <reisio> cybermolly10: first one, ascii
[21:25] <kmod> The problem I'm having technically only has to do with make and that driver
[21:25] <kmod> Oh well, thanks.
[21:26] <mongy> cybermolly10: I'll take a stab and say go wpa
[21:26] <cybermolly10> reisio: it says connection established, but then if I open Mozilla it says server not found
[21:27] <cybermolly10> should I try again and pick a different choice?
[21:27] <kish> thanks guys
[21:27] <kish> robin0800 and ubuntu-noob
[21:27] <reisio> cybermolly10: you could, make sure if you open the browser menu 'browse offline' isn't checked
[21:27] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: ehm... how and where can i run a command "upgrade-grub" ? as chroot in mounted system partition ?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> cybermolly10: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> when you are connected?
[21:28] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, you mean "update-grub"?  and are you booting from the livecd?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> MrS1lentcz: in the chrrot, in the terminal. I suggest you use the edit method and hold shift at boot, saves messing with chroots
[21:28] <cybermolly10> reisio: work offline was not checked
[21:28] <MrS1lentcz> psusi:  yeah
[21:28] <cybermolly10> actionparsnip: do I just type "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" into a terminal window? I have no idea what i'm doing
[21:28] <robin0800> cybermolly10: can you not see what the apple is using?
[21:29] <cybermolly10> I can see it
[21:29] <illbequick> Hi guys! How can I know the package name that "Additional Drivers" app is trying to install? It's trying to install "Broadcom STA Wireless Driver" - do you guys know how I can install it via apt-get?
[21:29] <cybermolly10> hmmn, now it says the connection I just made is disconnected, not sure why
[21:29] <MrS1lentcz> ActionParsnip: and does it get an effect, when on start black screen is blinking? i mean hold shift...
[21:30] <gizmo> illbequick: you want " sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common"
[21:30] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, become root ( sudo -s ), mount your partition somewhere ( like /mnt ) and then run: for f in dev sys proc ; do mount --bind /$f /mnt/$f ; done, and then chroot /mnt, and finally run update-grub
[21:31] <illbequick> gizmo: thank you!
[21:31] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: yeah
[21:31] <cybermolly10> maybe I should mention that when I'm connected I can see the lines in that network icon, but they're all greyed out
[21:31] <robin0800> illbequick: why do you need to?
[21:31] <gajbooks> Is there any way of installing Ubuntu from Windows recovery mode?
[21:32] <saquib-> h
[21:32] <gizmo> gajbooks: can you use a live cd?
[21:32] <gajbooks> gizmo: No, the CD drive in this crappy old thing died.
[21:33] <mongy> cybermolly10: greyed out?  can you click it and view connection info?
[21:33] <delle> hi to all! i could use some help for file sharing issues. Could someone help me?
[21:33] <illbequick> robin0800: i just installed ubuntu using 'alternative' without things that i don't need, but after install wifi didn't work. but when I try live cd, it works
[21:33] <psusi> gajbooks, use a usb flash stick?
[21:33] <cybermolly10> mongy: what info do you mean?
[21:33] <mongy> cybermolly10: any.  does it show any
[21:33] <gajbooks> psusi: Been trying, but get "Operating system not found".
[21:34] <cybermolly10> mongy: it says wireless netowrk, and then the network I just created, and then disconnect
[21:34] <illbequick> robin0800: at the same time, in live cd, "additional drivers" popped up and said that there was this drive available for my card
[21:34] <psusi> gajbooks, then you didn't build the stick correctly... what did you use?  unetbootin?
[21:34] <mongy> cybermolly10: and near the bottom, connection info
[21:34] <gajbooks> psusi: Yes.
[21:34] <gizmo> gajbooks: how did you use the normall install for the flash-drive?
[21:34] <cybermolly10> mongy: it says a lot, do you want it all?
[21:35] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o bind /proc/mounts /mnt/proc mount: Not a directory ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount --bind /proc/mounts /mnt/proc mount: Not a directory "
[21:35] <gajbooks> gizmo: Huh?
[21:35] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: how can i mount the proc, please?
[21:35] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, no, you need to use sudo -s to stay root first, then do the rest
[21:35] <mongy> cybermolly10: the fact it says stuff is all I wanted to know
[21:35] <mongy> cybermolly10: did you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:36] <robin0800> illbequick: aptitude search on driver name might help
[21:36] <gizmo> gajbooks: you mentioned getting an error using a flash drive, how were you using it?
[21:36] <cybermolly10> mongy: do you mean just type "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" into a terminal window?
[21:36] <ActionPa1snip> cybermolly10: if <IP_ADDRESS> pings, its a DNS issue and is easy to fix
[21:36] <ActionPa1snip> cybermolly10: yes, thats the command
[21:36] <mongy> cybermolly10: ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:36] <cybermolly10> yes, but how do I ping, remember, I know nothing
[21:36] <cire_> What is the ubuntu way of saving synaptics settings? (manually done by synclient )
[21:36] <gajbooks> gizmo: I got an error from the BIOS: "Operating system not found".
[21:37] <illbequick> robin0800: unfortunately, in live cd, "apt-cache show broadcom-sta-common" isn't showing anything
[21:37] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: you dont understand me.... mount "said" : 'mount: Not a directory"
[21:37] <cybermolly10> network is unreachable
[21:37] <ActionPa1snip> cybermolly10: the command you typed in the quotes is what you need
[21:37] <delle> oh, well. thx anyway i'll be trying again tomorrow.
[21:37] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[21:37] <ActionPa1snip> cybermolly10: dang
[21:37] <gizmo> gajbooks: is this when you try booting normally, or booting from a usb?
[21:37] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, you need to not run it with sudo, and do you have your disk mounted in /mnt?
[21:38] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: sure
[21:38] <mongy> ifconfig then to see if she has an ip at least
[21:38] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: /mnt/proc is exists
[21:38] <MrS1lentcz> *exists
[21:38] <illbequick> can anyone run "apt-get cache show broadcom-sta-common" please? having little difficulty here :/
[21:38] <gajbooks> gizmo: I took the HD out to see if that made a differnece, but that is what I got. I removed the HD because I kept having my ruined 7 install trying to boot.
[21:38] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, then you should be running "for f in sys dev proc ; do mount --bind /$f /mnt/$f"
[21:39] <cybermolly10> mongy: when I was looking at the connection information there was an IP address
[21:39] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, err, forgot the ; done part that time...
[21:39] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, so it should be "for f in sys dev proc ; do mount --bind /$f /mnt/$f ; done"
[21:40] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: "mount: mount point /mnt/proc/mounts does not exist"
[21:40] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, the word mounts should not be anywhere in the command
[21:41] <robin0800> illbequick: aptitude search says broadcom-sta-common exists
[21:41] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: i mounted sucessfully mounts and swaps by this method in the past...
[21:41] <gizmo> gajbooks: when your computer boots, try pushing f8 to get to a boot menu. (if that does not work, your bios probably shows you what to push). Also, do you know if the usb drive is bootable?
[21:42] <psusi> MrS1lentcz, you need to run the command exactly as I said... the word "mounts" isn't in it...
[21:42] <TimothyA> I have an issue with ubuntu 11.04: every time I boot up the machine it will just display a black screen, but I can see my cursor
[21:42] <gajbooks> gizmo: Do you mean the setup? No, I do not know if the USB is bootable.
[21:42] <MrS1lentcz> psusi:  i see...
[21:43] <gizmo> gajbooks: What have you done to the usb so far?
[21:43] <gajbooks> Just used Unetbootin on it.
[21:43] <aniketdharamshi> hi
[21:44] <aniketdharamshi> i just installed ubuntu using wubi on windows 7
[21:44] <reisio> aniketdharamshi: hi
[21:44] <aniketdharamshi> and now when i boot it and select ubuntu it just restarts and wont boot
[21:45] <MrS1lentcz> ActionPa1snip: "/etc/default/grub: 36: nouveau.blacklist=1: not found"
[21:45] <reisio> aniketdharamshi: installing not using wubi is a much saner approach...
[21:45] <cybermolly10> reisio: is it time to buy a new adapter yet?
[21:45] <aniketdharamshi> Right, so i should just download it, make a usb and then install it from there?
[21:46] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: your colleague wrote me a wrong option :(
[21:47] <reisio> cybermolly10: haven't been following
[21:47] <reisio> where are you now?
[21:47] <gizmo> gajbooks: then the usb should be bootable. My guess is your bios setup does not look for usb drives. You should be able to fix that by going into the bios menu. If it doesn't have a usb option, it is probably an old bios, in which case check the manufacturer's website for an update.
[21:47] <cybermolly10> reisio: I pinged <IP_ADDRESS> and it said network unreachable
[21:47] <gajbooks> gizmo: It has one, and it is set to first boot priority.
[21:47] <cybermolly10> reisio: aside from that, little has changed
[21:48] <abelabel> hi, on a system using 11.10 network speed to the internet (browsing, downloading) is great but on the internal network when communicating with my NAS or XP system the network speed is stable but slow, just around 100KB/second; any hints what I should try to look into?
[21:48] <reisio> cybermolly10: thought you were going to look at your Apple config
[21:49] <gizmo> gajbooks: do you have access to another computer you could use to install to the hd?
[21:49] <MrS1lentcz> oh, my wrong
[21:49] <lan3y> hi im having problems with my hybridgraphics setup, how can i check which gpu is currently in use?
[21:49] <cybermolly10> reisio: what exactly should I be looking at/for?
[21:49] <gajbooks> gizmo: Would it be possible to use a VM?
[21:49] <reisio> cybermolly10: the encryption type
[21:49] <reisio> cybermolly10: wep, wpa, etc.
[21:50] <nn52> używa ktoś gnome3 , z klasycznym wyglądem?
[21:50] <nn52> klasyk czyli wygląd gnome2
[21:50] <robin0800> cybermolly10: if you can log into the router you can usually see the security settings and password
[21:50] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, I guess it's WPA2 Personal
[21:50] <l_r> where are the repositories for ubuntu 9.10?
[21:51] <iceroot> !eol | l_r
[21:51] <abelabel> (all wired network by the way)
[21:51] <l_r> that's not a great answer
[21:51] <gajbooks> Ok, so does Ubuntu install platform specific stuff or does it install all generic?
[21:51] <lan3y> l_r, could be a hint they are gone
[21:51] <gizmo> gajbooks: Maybe, you would need to see if it can access the host's harddrive.
[21:52] <reisio> gajbooks: it detects hardware during install
[21:52] <reisio> gajbooks: as much as it can
[21:52] <iceroot> l_r: it is the best answer
[21:52] <iceroot> l_r: because the last link contains the repos and shows how to upgrade
[21:52] <gajbooks> gizmo: If it would install for different hrdware, then how would that work right?
[21:52] <niklasfi> is there somebody here, who has a working config for mpd and pulseaudio?
[21:52] <l_r> i need to install packages in an old release, i dont want to upgrade
[21:52] <iceroot> l_r: again, read the link
[21:52] <cybermolly10> reisio: I changed it to WPA2 personal, disconnected and reconnected, still have greyed out bars on network icon and can't connect on mozilla
[21:53] <iceroot> l_r: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-security main restricted universe multiverse
[21:53] <rUff3r> is there a way to get the close on the left side in gnome shell?
[21:54] <lan3y> rUff3r, some of the themes have the buttons set on the left
[21:54] <gizmo> gajbooks: the problem with using a VM on the host hd, is that the host OS might lock you out of direct access.
[21:54] <rUff3r> lan3y: thanks i look into it
[21:54] <jazz> hey, could someone please help me?
[21:54] <MrS1lentcz> psusi: i dont know how i have to set the "nouveau.blacklist=1" flag by http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1758080.html :/
[21:54] <reisio> cybermolly10: I don't know, we could try the other thing you were trying earlier you said you had some problem with
[21:54] <lan3y> jazz, dont ask to ask, go ahead
[21:55] <reisio> cybermolly10: relaying commands over IRC is kind of maddening at this duration, though
[21:55] <jazz> oh, ok sorry :P I've been trying to change my boot order and the timer, but I can't seem to be able to do it
[21:55] <cybermolly10> reisio: does that mean I should buy the adapter?
[21:55] <jazz> could someone just walk me through it?
[21:55] <jazz> like getting to the file i need to edit?
[21:56] <rUff3r> oh and why is there no shutdown option in gnome shell?
[21:56] <reisio> cybermolly10: I'm sure you can get this one to work, but if you'd rather just replace it with one you think will work out of the box :) up to you
[21:56] <reisio> if you've got an Apple computer I assume you can afford a new adapter :p
[21:56] <cybermolly10> reisio, I don't think I have any other choice, I don't know anyone who uses ubuntu, so I don't have anyone to help
[21:56] <fellayaboy> how can i remote desktop from outside my local network??
[21:56] <reisio> cybermolly10: if you need a suggestion ask ##hardware
[21:56] <lan3y> rUff3r, hold the alt key when on the menu to change hibernate to power off, i think
[21:57] <gajbooks> gizmo: I can directly mount USB drives in the VM, so I should be good. (I am going to use a HD to USB adapter)
[21:57] <cybermolly10> reisio: what do you think about this one? http://www.amazon.com/150Mbps-WIFI-WIRELESS-ADAPTER-802-11/dp/B0058XSZGU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321820829&sr=1-1
[21:57] <iceroot> fellayaboy: forward the needed ports in your router (more infos are found in the manual of the router)
[21:57] <reisio> cybermolly10: I wouldn't mind ssh'ing into your box and trying a couple things, but probably not a great idea if you have any personal data on there
[21:57] <gizmo> gajbooks: that should work
[21:57] <cybermolly10> reisio: I don
[21:57] <cybermolly10> treisio: I don't have personal dat
[21:57] <rUff3r> lan3y:  thanks again
[21:57] <gajbooks> Is there a way to make Ubuntu install for a generic system and not bother to detect hardware?
[21:57] <reisio> cybermolly10: looks tiny, I wonder what the actual range is
[21:57] <jazz> could someone walk me through editing my boot order?
[21:57] <fellayaboy> iceroot..i think i did but how would i configure everyhthing else..what programs etc
[21:58] <iceroot> fellayaboy: nothing more needed
[21:58] <cybermolly10> reisio: is there a way you can ssh if I'm not connected to the internet?
[21:58] <fellayaboy> what port does it use?
[21:58] <mongy> reisio: same as an internal with patch antenna
[21:58] <reisio> cybermolly10: you can see if the install image you used has network
[21:58] <iceroot> fellayaboy: what are you using? vnc, ssh, rdesktop
[21:58] <lan3y> jazz, maybe this could help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:58] <reisio> mongy: cool
[21:58] <cybermolly10> reisio: also, would it be better if I dragged this computer over to the router and connected to the router temporarily
[21:59] <mongy> cybermolly10: as I said before, its rtl8188 same as mine.  works
[21:59] <jazz> ok, ill try it. thank you
[21:59] <reisio> mongy: what laptops don't come without wireless adapters...
[21:59] <gizmo> gajbooks: the default install is fairly generic. If there is a specific support missing you can always add it after installing.
[21:59] <reisio> cybermolly10: that'd probably work, too
[21:59] <fellayaboy> iceroot i dont know which to use... i want to control the desktop not ssh with just terminal interface..
[21:59] <gajbooks> gizmo: Ah, thanks.
[21:59] <iceroot> fellayaboy: then i guess you are using vnc
[22:00] <iceroot> fellayaboy: 5900 should be the port you need
[22:00] <fellayaboy> okay do i need to install something else
[22:00] <cybermolly10> reisio: just so we're clear, because I'm very lazy, if I drag this computer over to the router and plug it in, you think we could tackle this wireless adapter problem?
[22:00] <reisio> cybermolly10: you should check if the wireless works from the liveCD anyways, though
[22:00] <reisio> cybermolly10: yeah
[22:00] <fellayaboy> if using vnc do i have to install somethign else iceroot
[22:00] <iceroot> fellayaboy: vnc should be installed by default on ubuntu with gnome/unity
[22:00] <fellayaboy> ok iceroot
[22:00] <cybermolly10> reisio: unfortunately, I had to actually install ubuntu, I'm not just running it off a cd
[22:01] <reisio> cybermolly10: I know, but the install images let you run a 'testing' environment, too
[22:01] <reisio> cybermolly10: and sometimes wireless will work on these and not the installed
[22:01] <jazz> i was thinking of doing something more like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[22:01] <reisio> cybermolly10: which would indicate a simple misconfiguration or lack of software in the install, which we could find easily with some diff'ing
[22:01] <jazz> but it doesnt seem to work
[22:01] <cybermolly10> reisio: really? so how do I do that? just put the CD back in and reboot?
[22:02] <reisio> cybermolly10: so what I'd do is boot up the install CD, select test/try/whatever instead of install
[22:02] <reisio> cybermolly10: spend a couple minutes max seeing if the wireless works / if you can get it working
[22:02] <fellayaboy> iceroot..okay so after allowing remote desktop on host and opening port on router i should be good to go
[22:02] <reisio> cybermolly10: if you can, get on IRC and we'll figure it out, if you can't, plug it into the router
[22:03] <cybermolly10> reisio: ok, rebooting now, wish me luck
[22:03] <jazz> could somebody help me do this? i cant get it to work: t it doesnt seem to workt it doesnt seem to work
[22:03] <jazz> t it doesnt seem to work
[22:03] <jazz> oops
[22:03] <reisio> cybermolly10: good luck :)
[22:03] <jazz> i cant get THIS to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[22:04] <reisio> jazz: that looks to be instructions for old GRUB
[22:04] <jazz> oh
[22:04] <reisio> jazz: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:04] <jazz> well how could i do the same thing on 11.10
[22:04] <scarleo> Hi, I'm getting a strange conflict when trying to update XBMC from unstable. This is my versions and message: http://pastie.org/2894920
[22:05] <robin0800> jazz: did you run sudo update-grub after your changes?
[22:05] <scarleo> the versions match up but it tells me the already installed version is going to be installed, why?
[22:05] <jazz> ummm no i dont think so
[22:05] <ikonia> scarleo: what repo are you getting that from ?
[22:05] <jazz> i think i screwed something up early on so i reinstalled ubuntu
[22:06] <jazz> oh, and i could never even get the document up
[22:06] <scarleo> ikonia: LP-PPA-team-xbmc-unstable/natty
[22:06] <jazz> so i never even edited anything
[22:06] <ikonia> scarleo: you need to talk to the maintainers of that PPA then
[22:06] <robin0800> jazz: any changes to grub require that command afterwards
[22:06] <scarleo> ikonia: ok, thanks
[22:06] <jazz> yeah, but i never edited anything
[22:07] <jazz> i cant even get to the place to edit things
[22:07] <Icehawk78> My laptop has a (radeon) hybrid graphics switch which has been causing me several headaches. I eventually disabled the fglrx and attempted to use the VGASWITCHEROO in order to disable the radeon graphics card, which otherwise leaves the fan running at 100% nearly constantly.
[22:07] <jazz> im on 64 bit 11.10
[22:07] <reisio> jazz: so the problem ATM is... you can't boot Windows?
[22:07] <cybermolly10> reisio: same thing, I can't see it in the network list, tried creating a connection, still can't get online
[22:07] <yarrow> jazz: try this thread, lots of info on grub2 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[22:07] <Icehawk78> However, attempting to do `echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch` gives me permission errors
[22:08] <ikonia> Icehawk78: use sudo
[22:08] <jazz> noo i CAN boot windows. i just want it to remove the timer when it gives me operating systems to boot
[22:08] <vimjim> hi!
[22:08] <reisio> cybermolly10: k, hook it up to the router, see if you can get me the ip (curl tnx.nl/ip) and a user name and pass
[22:08] <MrS1lentcz> after start pc my black screen are bliking... can i set this: "# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console " for solve this problem?
[22:08] <Icehawk78> ikonia: Still doesn't work, preumably because it's only 'echo' that's being run in sudo
[22:08] <MrS1lentcz> *in grub config
[22:08] <ikonia> Icehawk78: ahhhh yes,
[22:08] <reisio> cybermolly10: /msg reisio user:pass
[22:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: and actually you don't need to say the IP in public, either :p
[22:09] <cybermolly10> reisio: will the IP address be the same when I move it?
[22:09] <Resistance> reisio:  stop being a troll ;P
[22:09] <reisio> Resistance: yes massah
[22:09] <cybermolly10> reisio: you'll be shocked to hear this, but I don't know how to message you
[22:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: well right now it hasn't an ip address
[22:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: that was the command
[22:09] <reisio> cybermolly10: /query reisio
[22:10] <cybermolly10> reisio: so how come I can see an IP address when I look at the connection information?
[22:10] <reisio> cybermolly10: can you?  I guess it could be partially working
[22:10] <reisio> cybermolly10: from what, ifconfig?
[22:10] <cybermolly10> reisio: and I still don't get how to message you, sorry, really got in over my head
[22:11] <reisio> cybermolly10: '/query reisio'
[22:11] <cybermolly10> reisio: I clicked the network icon and selected "connection information" near the bottom
[22:11] <reisio> should open up a tab near top
[22:11] <StepNjump2> I made another boo boo... gosh! I did chmod /media/* and now when I try to cd /media, I don't have access!
[22:11] <cybermolly10> reisio: are you saying I should type that into the line I'm typing into right now?
[22:11] <reisio> cybermolly10: yes
[22:11] <StepNjump2> What should I do?
[22:12] <cybermolly10> can I leave the computer where it is and see you if you can ssh, or should I still move it?
[22:12] <Icehawk78> StepNjump2: sudo cd or sudo chmod back to what it was before?
[22:12] <cybermolly10> reisio: can I leave the computer where it is and see you if you can ssh, or should I still move it?
[22:12] <xSmurf> hey all, I'm trying to use an Edirol FA66 firewire sound card in Oneiric and it doesn't seem to work
[22:12] <reisio> cybermolly10: you can, tell me the IP in a PM
[22:12] <xSmurf> or at least, it doesn't popup in pulseaudio
[22:12] <xSmurf> any clues would be helpful
[22:13] <vimjim> I have an ongoing issue. I have two usb devices on the same hub, same device.  They are multimode devices, they auto switch to the correct mode. Actual device is a nokia cs18 gprs modem.  All works well. Registers with the carrier, but after about 5-9 days, one of the devices goes offline, the other stays on.  dmesg reports "usb disconnect" or "new full speed usb devce" followed by "unable to enumerate" - these messages are the same as if i am to physically
[22:13] <vimjim> unpliug the device, but i am not.
[22:14] <vimjim> and, the lights do not come back on when this happens 5-9 days after being plugged in.
[22:14] <atamisk> does anybody know why compiz refuses to start?
[22:14] <atamisk> err emerald, not compiz
[22:15] <StepNjump2> icehawk78 I tried sudo cd. It says command not found!
[22:15] <bastidrazor> atamisk: emerald is dead.. RIP
[22:15] <xangua> !emerald | atamisk
[22:15] <xangua> atamisk: if you want to go on I have seen some guides that force to use emerald with new compiz
[22:16] <CharminTheMoose> What tools are there that I can use to automount externel media (usb fat32 and ext3 primarily) irrespective of whether I'm using Gnome or not?
[22:16] <StepNjump2> the su password, should be same as root no?
[22:16] <reisio> CharminTheMoose: did you answer my question earlier?
[22:16] <reisio> CharminTheMoose: you want to mount any random device you connect, or only specific ones
[22:17] <CharminTheMoose> Oh sorry reisio I didn't see it. I want to mount any random device I connect, essentially
[22:17] <xSmurf> anyone? anyone? Bueller?
[22:17] <bluberella> hello. I want to prevent a specific package from being installed. I did a "apt-get remove --purge gdm-guest-session", followed by a aptitude hold gdm-guest-session. Unfortunately the packet is installed anyway. How can I prevent a package from being installed?
[22:17] <reisio> CharminTheMoose: k, check out https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev
[22:17] <reisio> xSmurf: nothing like an overused joke to make a person want to respond...
[22:17] <xSmurf> well see it worked ;)
[22:18] <fellayaboy> iceroot thanks that worked very well
[22:18] <fellayaboy> does anyone know how to get out of remote desktop view when connected??
[22:18] <atamisk> i just need a decorator that works. gtk-window-decorator refuses to initialize too
[22:18] <xSmurf> I really wished this would work, everything I can find on the net basically says "it just works"
[22:19] <reisio> xSmurf: this what
[22:20] <reisio> fellayaboy: CTRL+ALT+ENTER ?
[22:20] <gewt> roktik: stop PMing me, please.
[22:20] <fellayaboy> ctrl alt enter works?
[22:20] <xSmurf> reisio: ah you didn't read the original message huh ;p
[22:20] <xSmurf> an Edirol Fa66 firewire soundcard
[22:21] <reisio> xSmurf: hence the question
[22:21] <reisio> fellayaboy: you tell me
[22:23] <jesse__> How do I install a specific version of a program from command line?
[22:24] <ahoneybun> jesse__, use the source from the apps webpage?
[22:24] <reisio> think he means given multiple available versions in repo
[22:25] <jesse__> reisio, Indeed!
[22:25] <ActionPa1snip> jesse__: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/03/how-to-install-specific-version-of.html
[22:25] <|Slacker|> does anybody use thunderbird here with google accounts?
[22:25] <alessandro97> blu sky
[22:25] <ActionPa1snip> !anyone | |Slacker|
[22:25] <MVanDruff> so does anyone know a way to launch my windows install through linux
[22:26] <ActionPa1snip> MVanDruff: virtualbox can do it
[22:26] <alessandro97> \list
[22:26] <|Slacker|> ActionPa1snip, oh...forgot about that, sorry
[22:26] <martc> hi
[22:26] <jesse__> ActionPa1snip, thanks, brain shutting down
[22:26] <reisio> MVanDruff: you want to install windows to a hard disk?
[22:26] <giulia> hello, I am trying to create an icon theme around Christmas. The only hiccups is that I have no idea on where can I find Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice... icons in Christmas' clothes. Any idea ?
[22:26] <jazz> how do i edit "GRUB-TIMEOUT" after putting "info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'" into terminal?
[22:27] <|Slacker|> anyway, I'm having issues with thunderbird and google apps accounts
[22:27] <jesse__> I've run into a strange problem when installing Ubuntu. Please excuse my lack of knowledge.
[22:27] <jesse__> (1) After installing Ubuntu, I am dropped to BusyBox initramfs.
[22:27] <jesse__> (2) I do not see the hard drive or partition in /dev.  I should, shouldn't I?  I think this means modules are missing.
[22:27] <jesse__> (3) I've tried reinstalling Grub using chroot, but it's not helping.
[22:27] <jesse__> (4) I think I traced the problem to having initrd.img-3.0.0-13 and vmlinuz-3.0.0-13 installed when only Linux 3.0.0-12 is installed, so it's looking for modules that aren't there.
[22:28] <FloodBot1> jesse__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <ActionPa1snip> jazz: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[22:28] <jazz> how do i edit "GRUB-TIMEOUT" after putting "info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'" into terminal?
[22:28] <jazz> oh
[22:28] <jazz> ok ill try that
[22:28] <MVanDruff> I allready have it installed on my secondary hdd
[22:28] <jesse__> Oops.
[22:28] <|Slacker|> thunderbird keeps freezing while checkingth imap folders but only with my google apps account
[22:28] <|Slacker|> any known bugs?
[22:28] <ActionPa1snip> |Slacker|: which version of thunderbird?
[22:28] <jazz> do i put that into a new terminal or the same one?
[22:28] <jesse__> How much of my five points got through?
[22:28] <|Slacker|> the latest I guess...lemme check
[22:29] <ActionPa1snip> jazz: either, it doesn't matter
[22:29] <xangua> |Slacker| if it's the first time you are going to sync, you'll have to wait
[22:29] <ActionPa1snip> jesse__: all
[22:29] <jesse__> ActionPa1snip, thanks
[22:29] <jazz> wow thank you
[22:29] <|Slacker|> it's thunderbird 7.0.1
[22:29] <ActionPa1snip> |Slacker|: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:30] <abelabel>  I'm still trying to figure out why I have such low network speeds on the local network. The speed I get is suspiciously close to the upload speed I have in my internet connection; also the IP of the linux computer is not in the same range as the other devices on the network. Could it be that I'm accidentally sending all data through my provider?
[22:30] <stepnjump> reisio, I made a mistake... I chmod /media/. instead of /media/UUID/. and now I can't even cd into the dir. Any ideas?
[22:30] <GTRsdk> What is the package name for the program called "Disk Utility"?
[22:30] <|Slacker|> ActionPa1snip, should I do this after thunderbird freezes?
[22:30] <ActionPa1snip> |Slacker|: any time really, its informational, it doesn't fix anything
[22:30] <|Slacker|> oneiric
[22:30] <jesse__> (6) I don't know how to do this, since I can't find linux 3.0.0-13 in the repositories nor do I know how to install earlier versions of the other programs.
[22:31] <reisio> stepnjump: ask the channel (not me directly) what /media/'s permissions are supposed to be
[22:31] <|Slacker|> ActionPa1snip, thunderbird just turned gray now
[22:31] <|Slacker|> probably will crash
[22:31] <stepnjump> ok reisio
[22:31] <reisio> stepnjump: sup
[22:31] <ActionPa1snip> GTRsdk: gnome-disk-utility
[22:32] <stepnjump> may anyone tell me what the /media/'s permissions are supposed to be?
[22:32] <jesse__> If anybody can help, problem re-iterated for easy reading: http://pastebin.com/zx3ymdEc
[22:33] <reisio> actually I do have an Ubuntu install on this usb stick, 1min I'll check its permissions
[22:33] <reisio> su
[22:33] <reisio> su!
[22:33] <ActionPa1snip> stepnjump: http://paste.ubuntu.com/744794/
[22:33] <reisio> silly IRC client
[22:34] <moo-> ubuntu is the only operating system that dont have screensaver
[22:34] <atamisk> !?
[22:34] <stepnjump> Thanks a lot actionpa1snip
[22:34] <moo-> windows, mac and even 1980 os have screensaver, but not ubuntu
[22:34] <reisio> moo-: the screensaver is optional
[22:34] <atamisk> emerald works from fusion-icon, but not under a command-line init?
[22:34] <reisio> moo-: and it's a GNOME decision
[22:34] <ActionPa1snip> moo-: DOS doesn't have a screensaver
[22:34] <stepnjump> ActionPa1snip, what happened to ActionParsnip?
[22:34] <ActionPa1snip> stepnjump: ?
[22:34] <moo-> ActionPa1snip, but amiga does
[22:34] <reisio> moo-: all distros using GNOME 3 will either come without a screensaver, or taint their install with non-default-GNOME stuff
[22:34] <ActionPa1snip> moo-: so?
[22:35] <stepnjump> ActionPa1snip yes?
[22:35] <moo-> reisio, but windows and  mac has screensavers, why doesnt ubuntu? is it a not as good?
[22:35] <ActionPa1snip> moo-: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html   shows how to install one. Why not just turn the monitor off, it's a power saver
[22:35] <reisio> moo-: I just said...
[22:35] <JoshR1> Hello.
[22:35] <ActionPa1snip> moo-: is a screensaver a gauge of OS quality to you?
[22:36] <reisio> moo-: if you want a screensaver, install xscreensaver
[22:36] <xangua> moo-: on webupd8 oneiric tweak post says how to install a screensaver
[22:36] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[22:36] <reisio> moo-: Ubuntu doesn't have one because GNOME doesn't have one
[22:36] <reisio> moo-: and most people are arguably happy with just blanking
[22:36] <licnep> how do i upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10? The upgrade button disappeared, and running 'update-manager -d' or 'do-release-upgrade' don't work
[22:36] <prettynoob> hi people, i need some help with a dedicated server running Ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[22:36] <ActionPa1snip> !upgrade | licnep
[22:36] <ActionPa1snip> licnep: -d is for (d)evelopment releases only
[22:36] <reisio> prettynoob: help granted!
[22:37] <licnep> oh
[22:37] <prettynoob> reisio: thank you gentleman
[22:37] <JoshR1> I am wondering if anyone can give me advice on a good VPN server for Ubuntu.
[22:37] <jesse__> When anybody has a moment, I think I've almost solved my problem: http://pastebin.com/zx3ymdEc
[22:37] <reisio> stepnjump: get your perms yet?
[22:37] <cYmen> What is the appropriate way to make a luks encrypted partition my new home partition?
[22:37] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: http://cviorel.easyblog.ro/2009/02/09/how-to-set-up-a-vpn-server-on-ubuntu/
[22:37] <cYmen> editing fstab and crypttab? or is there a tool or setting to use?
[22:37] <prettynoob> reisio: i have a main ip address, and 3 secondary, how can i use these secondary ips to create shell acounts?
[22:37] <prettynoob> accounts*
[22:38] <stepnjump> reisio, no! lol I have a finger in a cast lol
[22:38] <reisio> stepnjump: sudo chmod 755 /media
[22:38] <ActionPa1snip> stepnjump: you asked where I was, so I replied. I thought you wanted me. so your reply of "yes?" is confusing.
[22:38] <reisio> stepnjump: how'd you manage that?
[22:38] <reisio> prettynoob: good question
[22:38] <robin0800> reisio: actually gnome does have a screensaver but it is broken
[22:38] <JoshR1> Great now I am locking up after trying to use that link.
[22:39] <jesse__> Actually, why does my Live CD have linux 3.0.0-13 and yet I can only find 3.0.0-12 in the repositories?
[22:39] <stepnjump> ActionPa1snip OIC! no I was saying... what did you do with our ActionPa R snip in a joking way lol
[22:39] <prettynoob> reisio: i think so hehe, please if you know some web tutorial or something
[22:39] <reisio> robin0800: it has blank, yeah
[22:39] <prettynoob> im really lost with this matter
[22:39] <reisio> prettynoob: you want to offer free shells upon request?
[22:39] <ActionPa1snip> stepnjump: ahhh, i see :D
[22:39] <JoshR1> For some reason my mouse won't click anything now.
[22:40] <stepnjump> Don't ask reisio lol too embarassing.. Ok let me try 755 but last time I tried it was a no go...
[22:40] <reisio> JoshR1: keyboard still working?
[22:40] <prettynoob> reisio: not free, i would like to create them myself
[22:40] <JoshR1> Yes
[22:40] <reisio> stepnjump: hahahah
[22:40] <jesse__> Would copying my /lib/modules folder from my Live CD to my desktop work, or would that mess things up?
[22:40] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: try restarting your WM, may help
[22:40] <JoshR1> I am typing lol
[22:40] <prettynoob> but i want to how to do it, reisio
[22:40] <reisio> prettynoob: why do you want to use the other IPs?
[22:40] <jesse__> There needs to be a bot that puts people in a queue or something...
[22:40] <fellayaboy> i have mupen64 in /usr/local...i want to create a link in /usr/local/bin  i made a link and renamed it mupen64 but it says it cant find a *.conf file..how could i fix this im new to adding programs manually
[22:40] <alessandro97> hi!
[22:40] <reisio> jesse__: forgot your problem
[22:40] <JoshR1> Odly enough now it works.
[22:40] <alessandro97> list!
[22:41] <stepnjump> reisio.. It worked thanks! My error was that I had added -R to chmod prev.
[22:41] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: run it from command line and it will give clues
[22:41] <reisio> fellayaboy: mupen is in the repos, why'd you do it manually
[22:41] <reisio> alessandro97: 1, 2, 3, 4
[22:41] <fellayaboy> oh ididnt know
[22:41] <ActionPa1snip> !find muppen
[22:41] <reisio> alessandro97: 5
[22:41] <jesse__> reisio: http://pastebin.com/zx3ymdEc
[22:41] <prettynoob> reisio: because i cant like ¨install¨ two apache web servers in one ip address
[22:41] <robin0800> jesse__: its in proposed I think you can enable that in the software sources
[22:41] <fellayaboy> all i did was chmod +x reisio
[22:41] <jesse__> Proposed... thank you...
[22:41] <ActionPa1snip> isn't muppen64 dead?
[22:41] <reisio> fellayaboy: pardon?
[22:41] <jesse__> robin0800, reisio: I can take it from there, I think.
[22:41] <prettynoob> reisio: i would like to listen in port 80 in each ip, or something like that
[22:42] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: muppen64 is 7 YEARS dead
[22:42] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: http://mupen64.emulation64.com/
[22:42] <fellayaboy> whats a better emu?
[22:43] <stepnjump> reisio :)
[22:43] <reisio> jesse__: sudo fdisk -l list your devices?
[22:43] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: anything is better than dead
[22:43] <reisio> stepnjump: mounting things again?
[22:43] <renosis> I have some partitioning questions, can anyone help me?
[22:43] <reisio> stepnjump: careful not to break another finger
[22:43] <reisio> fellayaboy: mupen64plus
[22:43] <fellayaboy> is that in the repos?
[22:43] <reisio> fellayaboy: it's in the repos, all you had to do was search for mupen
[22:43] <ActionPa1snip> fellayaboy: found this but it's nearly 1 year without update http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/
[22:43] <reisio> fellayaboy: always check the repos first
[22:43] <ActionPa1snip> !find mupen
[22:43] <reisio> fellayaboy: use as little of a string as you can that you think will match
[22:44] <ActionPa1snip> !info mupen64plus
[22:44] <stepnjump> reisio rofl! no I think I learned my lesson this time! -Rrrrrrr!
[22:44] <jesse__> reisio: it shows up there when I've booted from my Live CD, but when I'm in BusyBox after my computer fails to start, the disk is nowhere to be found!
[22:44] <reisio> jesse__: 11.10?
[22:44] <jesse__> reisio: using ls /dev/sd*
[22:44] <jesse__> reisio: Yes
[22:45] <trihedron> missing drivers ?
[22:45] <fellayaboy>  i didnt see mupen their before but now i found it
[22:45] <reisio> fellayaboy: a likely story!
[22:45] <fellayaboy> i typed in nintendo 65 emulator but never got anything
[22:45] <fellayaboy> 64*
[22:45] <reisio> that's a little specific
[22:46] <reisio> and you probably would've had to tell the search to search by description, not name
[22:46] <fellayaboy> thanks...so is that the best emu for ubuntu
[22:46] <reisio> depends on the frontend
[22:46] <reisio> fellayaboy: I think it might be the only viable Linux n64 emulator ATM
[22:46] <reisio> don't quote me on that
[22:46] <fellayaboy> ok
[22:46] <prettynoob> reisio: :(
[22:47] <reisio> prettynoob: ?
[22:47] <prettynoob> reisio: u were talking to me :(
[22:47] <prettynoob> im waiting for you
[22:47] <reisio> prettynoob: waiting for me to do what?
[22:47] <prettynoob> reisio: to help me, if its not a trouble
[22:47] <reisio> prettynoob: ...with what?
[22:48] <gmcdonald> I got a machine with 6 SAS in a RAID6 + HS. There are also 2 x SSDs in a RAID1 , whats the best way does anyine know for Ubuntu to utlises those SSDs ?
[22:48] <fellayaboy> but either way its a good question...sometimes i use programs that are not in the repos... if i wanted to add a link to usr/local/bin how can i make it work if the files depenedent to a file in the directory of its source
[22:48] <prettynoob> reisio: manage more than one ip address
[22:48] <reisio> fellayaboy: symlinking is usually a decent quick fix
[22:48] <prettynoob> reisio: to create like shell accounts, but i would like to manage them
[22:48] <fellayaboy> how would i do that
[22:48] <reisio> fellayaboy: ln -s path/to/reallocation path/to/fake
[22:48] <fellayaboy> i see
[22:49] <reisio> fellayaboy: or put another way: ln -s path/where/really/is path/where/things/looking/for/it
[22:49] <renosis> I have ubuntu installed on an ntfs partition (installed on a windows 7 install), I haven't booted into windows 7 in months. I need to dedicate more space to ubuntu. I have only one NTFS partition, containing both windows and ubuntu. While trying to figure out how to get more space, I booted into windows and found a file in the C:\ubuntu folder that is the same size as the space reserved for ubuntu. So I assume this is where ubuntu l
[22:49] <renosis> ives. How do I devote more space to this file?
[22:49] <fellayaboy> i see reisio
[22:49] <KWhat4> Does ubuntu have any themes that are in the package manager?
[22:49] <fellayaboy> ok ok ln -s /source /link
[22:50] <reisio> prettynoob: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20multiple%20interfaces
[22:50] <ActionPa1snip> !find theme
[22:50] <reisio> prettynoob: for making new users you'd want useradd or adduser
[22:50] <ActionPa1snip> KWhat4: sure, search software centre for: theme
[22:50] <reisio> you know what's really missing is a guide on how to use random software
[22:51] <reisio> people don't realize you can just type 'theme' in a box :p
[22:51] <ActionPa1snip> reisio: works well. as a human you can filter the fluff easily
[22:51] <reisio> indeed
[22:51] <gmcdonald> rephrase my Q: anyone use SSDs with Ubuntu?
[22:51] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: many do
[22:51] <reisio> gmcdonald: yes, some ones do
[22:52] <K350> is there anyone who's familar with Perl-Tk?
[22:52] <gmcdonald> ok so expanding that back to my original question
[22:52] <fellayaboy> now what if i wanted to add a bin to application>whereever
[22:52] <gmcdonald> I got a machine with 6 SAS in a RAID6 + HS. There are also 2 x SSDs in a RAID1 , whats the best way does anyine know for Ubuntu to utlises those SSDs ?
[22:53] <KWhat4> reisio: the problem is not that i dont know to type theme inot the serach box, the probem is i have 2000 results that are not themes
[22:53] <fellayaboy> ok nevermind all i have to do is rightclick properties and edit menus and i can add a bin to a path
[22:53] <moo-> gmcdonald, ask in #kernel or #linux, perhaps LVM or softraid, idk
[22:53] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: what is your priority for your storage?
[22:53] <reisio> don't ask in #kernel
[22:54] <reisio> KWhat4: for example?
[22:54] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: if you want speed then use raid0, if you want reliability then use raid1
[22:54] <KWhat4> peguin themed mine sweaper
[22:54] <gmcdonald> its going to be a build machine, so I was hoping to use the SSDs for the read/write of the builds
[22:54] <ermo> gmcdonald: sorry to barge in, but would you care to pastebin the convo history? :)
[22:54] <reisio> fellayaboy: that's how... Windows users do it... :/
[22:55] <ActionPa1snip> KWhat4: gnomelook.org has nice themes
[22:55] <gmcdonald> ermo: there is no history really, just started
[22:55]  * ermo has experience with both mdadmin raid-0, raid-1 and raid-10 w/lvm on top
[22:55] <renosis> Does anyone know a name for the way my Ubuntu is partitioned, so I can search for a tutorial so I can devote more space to it? I have one ntfs partition running windows and ubuntu.
[22:55] <KWhat4> reisio: none of the themes listed in the chat show up,
[22:55] <abelabel> would it be far-fetched to imagine that all the traffic that is supposed to happen within my LAN is accidentally routed through a server at my provider?
[22:55] <ActionPa1snip> KWhat4: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/more-gnome-3-themes-hope-adwance-gtk3.html
[22:55] <KWhat4> ActionPa1snip: i want something in the package manager so my gf will stop skrewing up her setup
[22:55] <ermo> gmcdonald: the first I saw was "moo-> gmcdonald, ask in #kernel or #linux,(...)" :)
[22:55] <gmcdonald> ermo: ack ..
[22:55] <gmcdonald> I got a machine with 6 SAS in a RAID6 + HS. There are also 2 x SSDs in a RAID1 , whats the best way does anyine know for Ubuntu to utlises those SSDs ?
[22:55] <gmcdonald> ermo: ^
[22:55] <Severian> On Ubuntu 10.04, is there a way to completely rebuild database of installed packages?  I had a corrupt /var/lib/dpkg/status.  I deleted it, which was probably a mistake.  Now, synaptic wants to install a bunch of packages thare are already there.
[22:56] <ermo> gmcdonald: roger
[22:56] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: the question doesn't tell us much
[22:56] <reisio> KWhat4: heh, k
[22:56] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: if you make a single disk from the SSDs you will be able to maximise the space too
[22:56] <reisio> KWhat4: theme packages probably follow a naming convention
[22:56] <reisio> KWhat4: foo-theme-bar, or the like
[22:56] <gmcdonald> ActionPa1snip: its a build machine, so was wanting to utilise the SSDs and ram cache maybe or tmp for read/writes etc
[22:56] <ermo> renosis: search for gparted -- you can resize partitions with that tool.
[22:56] <reisio> KWhat4: they should be all grouped together
[22:56] <prettynoob> reisio: yes, i already setup the interfaces
[22:57] <reisio> KWhat4: you could get at them quicker from a terminal: apt-cache search theme | grep -i gnome, etc.
[22:57] <gmcdonald> ActionPa1snip: already in a RAID1 setup as one VD
[22:57] <ThomasBoxley> What IRC client currently available uses GTK 3?
[22:57] <KWhat4> reisio: there is something wrong with the serach, for example if i search for theme nothing shows up related to themes, if i search for adium then the audium-theme shows up
[22:57] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: put swap, /tmp and /var on the platter based drives. Put web browser cache in tempfs
[22:58] <ermo> gmcdonald: how much ram do you have? Which kind of CPU? Have you considered using zram backed tmpfs aloing with lib/package files on mdadm raid-0 on the SSDs?
[22:58] <gmcdonald> ermo: no havent looked into that. The SSDs are 100GB each, the RAM is 32GB, CPU is dunno but big and fast :)
[22:59] <gmcdonald> its a 10k server
[22:59] <ermo> ActionPa1snip: 32GB? Sounds like a dual socket system ...
[22:59] <KWhat4> yah idk how the software center does its searching but someone may want to revisit that code
[23:00] <ermo> gmcdonald: is it up and running now? If so, can you pastebin the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' or your 'dmesg'?
[23:00] <reisio> ThomasBoxley: probably dev builds of XChat
[23:00] <renosis> ermo, I have been in gparted, it shows one NTFS partition, both ubuntu and windows are installed on this partition, to access my windows partition from ubuntu, it is mounted in /host, and as far as I can tell, if I boot into windows, under a file called C:\ubuntu\ there is some very large file (20 gigs, just like the amount of space devoted to ubuntu)
[23:00] <reisio> KWhat4: maybe you're searching by description and not name
[23:00] <reisio> KWhat4: or vice versa
[23:00] <ermo> renosis: oh, you're running ubuntu inside the windows partition.
[23:00] <renosis> which I assume holds my ubuntu data
[23:00] <renosis> ermo, yes :]
[23:00] <reisio> KWhat4: again apt-cache search in a terminal is going to be faster/easier to parse
[23:01] <gmcdonald> ermo: not yet no, Im at the install stage, so wanted to know best if I can install OS on the normal SAS disks and then configure SSDs afterwards or if I should be configuring the SSDs now before I start the OS install
[23:01] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: if you have 32Gb RAM, a lot of it will be used for disk cache if the ram is largely unused, makes things even faster :)
[23:01] <renosis> ermo, I would like to either devote more space to that file, some how, which I can't figure out how to do, or simply find an easy way to remove windows 7 completely and run a standard linux partition
[23:01] <gmcdonald> ActionPa1snip: right that was I was hoping, but how do I configure the SSDs to be ram cache?
[23:02] <ermo> gmcdonald: by ensuring that your swap is on the SSD drives? :)
[23:02] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: you can format them as swap, with 32Gb RAM I doubt you'll need it
[23:02] <ermo> gmcdonald: you could also consider using them in raid-10 instead of raid-1
[23:02] <KWhat4> reisio: yes, for you and i, however for someone else thats not very good at the terminal, not its not.  I am just wondering why one the software center doesnt search pacakge names
[23:03] <gmcdonald> 100GB for sawp seems excessive
[23:03] <reisio> KWhat4: install synaptic
[23:03] <reisio> KWhat4: software center is the super dumbed down version
[23:03] <ermo> gmcdonald: raid-10 stripes reads from each disk and since your seek time is awesome, there's no downside to raid-10 like there would be for spindled disks
[23:03] <KWhat4> ahhh ok thanks
[23:04] <ermo> gmcdonald: you're not getting it -- the idea is to create large, swap-backed tmpfs'es and run the builds from there
[23:04] <ActionPa1snip> gmcdonald: you want 1xRAM for swap if you have more than 2Gb RAM. With 32Gb RAM I doubt you'll need it
[23:04] <Jordan_U> renosis: To remove Windows completely and do a normal install just burn the Ubuntu iso to a CD or put it on a USB drive and boot from that rather than installing from within Windows. You will have to back up all your data first though.
[23:04] <ermo> gmcdonald: sorry, that came out a bit harsh :)(
[23:04] <gmcdonald> no problem
[23:04] <KWhat4> reisio: awesome!! thats just what i was looking for.  Thanks!
[23:05] <ermo> gmcdonald: I'm just imagining this: tmpfs -> zram -> swap -> raid-10 SSD
[23:05] <three18ti> anyone using orchestra on ubuntu-server?  Looking for a way to reset the login, reset the cobbler login, but that doesn't seem to help.
[23:05] <inashdeen> hi, want to ask, if i install ubuntu on a usb, can i edit it, like install and remove software, add and change wallpaper, put my documents like we use to do on a pc?
[23:05] <renosis> Jordan_U, ya, was trying to see if there is some way to avoid that, I kind of had a feeling it wouldn't be that easy, thanks
[23:05] <reisio> KWhat4: :D
[23:05] <Jordan_U> inashdeen: If you do a normal install using the Ubuntu installer, *not* "USB Startup Disk Creator", yes.
[23:05] <three18ti> inashdeen, yes, you will want to make a "persistent install" unetbootin does this very nicely.
[23:06] <reisio> KWhat4: sorry if you said software center earlier, should've realized
[23:06] <gmcdonald> ermo: ok thanks, something I can configure after OS install ?
[23:06] <renosis> Jordan_U, what about, just devoting more space to ubuntu, how would I go about that?
[23:06] <ermo> ActionPa1snip: can you see any obvious issue with my suggestion, if we assume that the tmpfs is only used for building/creating chroots for builds?
[23:06] <ermo> gmcdonald: that's what I'd do -- but you'll probably have to do a bit of reading :)
[23:07] <Jordan_U> renosis: There is no guide that I'm aware of. I could probably walk you through it but it would be a lot of manual work and something could go wrong.
[23:07] <renosis> Every time I search for a solution, I end up getting info on how to resize the partition using gparted
[23:07] <gmcdonald> ermo: thats the hope, use the SSDs to speed up builds, results can be stored on the sas drives
[23:07] <renosis> Jordan_U, ok, I'll just back everything up and do it that way, thanks!
[23:07] <inashdeen> Jordan_U :thanx
[23:07] <inashdeen> three18ti: thanx
[23:08] <Jordan_U> renosis: You're welcome.
[23:08] <gmcdonald> whois ermo
[23:08] <ermo> indeed, whoami
[23:08] <gmcdonald> you can answer that :)
[23:08] <Jordan_U> inashdeen: You're welcome.
[23:08] <three18ti> inashdeen: you are welcome.
[23:08] <ermo> gmcdonald: I should probably point out that I've never actually _done_ what I'm suggesting that you do!
[23:09] <gmcdonald> ermo: no problem, the idea seems sound
[23:09] <gmcdonald> I'll look into it and come back with results
[23:09] <ermo> But intuitively, I'd expect it to be wicked fast, especially if we assume that you use zram, since you trade space for CPU cycles, making your effective SSD speed higher due to the compression
[23:10] <ermo> i.e. you write compressed RAM pages to SSD
[23:10] <gmcdonald> as long as I can install the OS on the sas disks in the meantime so I can start using the machine, then go and address the SSDs afterwards is what I was going to do
[23:10] <ermo> gmcdonald: is this one of those things where you don't get to re-install?
[23:10] <gmcdonald> zram, got it, looking ..
[23:11] <gmcdonald> ermo: I can keep going until I get it right
[23:11] <gmcdonald> its a remote machine, but I have console
[23:11] <ermo> then just start out with the install on the SAS RAID-6 and do some experiments
[23:12] <gmcdonald> so was hoping to get OS done, then ssh in to do the ssd stuff
[23:12] <renosis> Jordan_U, I do have one more question though, I have a 80 gig solid state drive where I have ubuntu installed, and a 1 TB drive for extra storage, I want this 1 TB drive to contain all the home folders, is there some way to do this?
[23:12] <gmcdonald> will do thanks all for your suggestions
[23:12] <ermo> I can definitely recommend looking at raid-10 for the two SSDs
[23:12] <ermo> gmcdonald: same storage capacity as raid1, same speed as raid0
[23:12] <ermo> (read at least)
[23:13] <gmcdonald> thats raid 10 for the SSDs you mean?
[23:13] <ermo> yeah
[23:13] <gmcdonald> ack
[23:13] <Jordan_U> renosis: Yes. By selecting the manual partitioning option during installation and making a partition on the 1 TiB drive for "/home".
[23:14] <jesse__> robin0800, reisio: Yay!  I'm back in business.  So it goes like this: if you update your Live CD and then use it to install to your hard drive, it can install Grub for a version of Linux you do not have.
[23:14] <jesse__> robin0800, reisio: That is why my clean install didn't work.
[23:14] <cYmen> I need to add an encrypted home partition to a ubuntu system. Where can I read how the installer sets it up to imitate that?
[23:14] <renosis> Jordan_U, ah, ok, thanks again!
[23:14] <Jordan_U> renosis: You're welcome :)
[23:14] <ermo> gmcdonald: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/RAID#RAID10.2CF2
[23:15] <reisio> jesse__: ...k, gj
[23:15] <renosis> Well, time to go do a fresh install sans windows 7, thanks everyone for your help!
[23:16] <ermo> gmcdonald: http://serverfault.com/questions/139022/explain-mds-raid10-f2 <- check the 'far' section
[23:16] <jesse__> reisio: I'm pretty sure this is a bug; where do you think I should report it?
[23:16] <reisio> jesse__: I didn't really understand your explanation, try again?
[23:16] <ermo> gmcdonald: the degraded write performance might not be an issue at all when seeks are cheap as in an SSD
[23:17] <Rei`> Anyone here used a Toshiba NB550D with Ubuntu? Any ideas what compatibility is like and what performance to expect with 1GB RAM upgrade to 2GB
[23:18] <KWhat4> So I just installed blubuntu-look,  Why isnt is showing up in the themes menu under appearance?
[23:18] <reisio> Rei`: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Toshiba/NB550D
[23:18] <reisio> Rei`: 2 > 1
[23:18] <mongy> KWhat4: you need to install gnome-tweak-tool
[23:20] <jesse__> Well, my grub.cfg was expecting Linux <IP_ADDRESS>, but my computer only had <IP_ADDRESS>.  I think this is because my Live USB had <IP_ADDRESS> installed.  This was on a clean install.
[23:20] <Rei`> reisio: Seems pretty good from that list
[23:20] <bluebomber> When I right-click on the desktop, then click on "Create Document," it says "No Templates Installed," despite me having just placed some documents in ~/Templates. Do I have to refresh some indexing service or something in order to get them to appear in the right-click menu?
[23:20] <reisio> jesse__: you saying it's a bug that it was looking for .13?
[23:20] <reisio> Rei`: yeah all the important bits
[23:20] <reisio> Rei`: wireless :D
[23:21] <jesse__> reisio: Yes.
[23:21] <Rei`> reisio: Any idea what support is like for gestures on the trackpad? It's got 2 finger scrolling etc
[23:22] <KWhat4> thanks mongy
[23:22] <JoshR1> Seems my VPN connection doesn't work.
[23:22] <Rei`> reisio: Was kinda hoping I'd get some indication of how well unity would run, battery life and support for trackpads, but it looks promising
[23:22] <reisio> Rei`: no, you'd want to look up synaptics support against the model I think
[23:22] <reisio> Rei`: should run fine, I can't speak to the trackpad
[23:23] <Rei`> I'm looking for a coding machine for the sofa :P
[23:23] <reisio> Rei`: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22nb550d%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org probably can, though
[23:23] <reisio> Rei`: yeah I could use one of those
[23:23]  * reisio eyes black friday
[23:24] <jesse__> bluebomber: I just tried adding templates and it worked instantly.
[23:24] <bluebomber> jesse__: I think it has for me in the past, too.
[23:25] <bluebomber> jesse__: Could you try adding a file into a few nested folders, e.g. ~/Templates/parent/child/file and see if they show up instantly?
[23:25] <jesse__> bluebomber: Odd... did it break as of a recent update or something?
[23:25] <jesse__> bluebomber: Sure
[23:25] <jesse__> bluebomber: Worked instantly.
[23:26] <bluebomber> Hmmmm... Not working for me.
[23:26] <reokie> Does anyone here have a problem with their fans only activating once the temp gets about 75C?
[23:26] <JoshR1> Ok I have a question, am I better off doing a VPN or a FTP server if I want to access files on my server from outside my network?
[23:26] <bluebomber> Oh, wait. I symlinked Templates to point to somewhere else. I just remembered. But the target is still valid and it was working before.
[23:26] <bluebomber> jesse__: Thanks for trying.
[23:27] <ermo> reokie: which PC?
[23:27] <jesse__> bluebomber: Maybe the program that looks for templates is off?
[23:27] <jesse__> bluebomber: I don't know if it's zeitgeist or Nautilus or what, though.
[23:28] <mongy> JoshR1: sftp
[23:28] <jesse__> bluebomber: "Have you tried turning it off and back on again?"
[23:28] <bastidrazor> JoshR1: just enable ssh and portforward.
[23:28] <bluebomber> jesse__: Hmmm... I was about to do that. Would you mind testing to see if yours gives you the same issue if ~/Templates is a symbolic link?
[23:28] <bluebomber> jesse__: Be right back. Rebooting.
[23:29] <ermo> JoshR1: You can also just use ssh/scp?
[23:29] <JoshR1> Ok I think I tried setting up sftp but i need to point it to my raid setup.  I use a ssd for the OS and two 1 TB hds in Raid-0
[23:29] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: sftp ftw :)
[23:29] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: install openssh-server and you get an sftp server
[23:29] <ermo> oh, I confused sftp with ftps
[23:29] <ermo> ActionPa1snip: +1
[23:29] <JoshR1> ok
[23:31] <bastidrazor> JoshR1: with ssh you can connect with any OS.. winscp on windows and ssh/sftp on ubuntu/mac
[23:31] <reokie> ermo: Toshiba Satellite L-505
[23:31] <ermo> reokie: so not a Mac. Hm. In most PCs, the fan control is handled by the bios.
[23:32] <ermo> reokie: but I've successfully overrided the fancontrol by using lm-sensors
[23:32] <JoshR1> So use openssh-server ?
[23:32] <ermo> reokie: take a look at this: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/man/fancontrol
[23:32] <ActionPa1snip> JoshR1: yes, you can also mount sshfs in nautilus and is secure
[23:33] <sprayy> sshfs is awesome
[23:33] <sprayy> sshfs user@host:/path /localpath
[23:34] <sprayy> If you set up ssh keys on the hosts you want to sshfs mount, it works great
[23:34] <iamweirdie> can somebody help me define what this term does or means, please?
[23:34] <iamweirdie> -Duser.home="."
[23:34] <ermo> iamweirdie: in which context?
[23:35] <bluberella> Is it possible to use the autodetection for proprietary graphicsdriver on cli ( or automatically in a script)? I just wonder if I have to setup my own detection script or if I can use ubuntu scripts.
[23:35] <iamweirdie> ermo java -Xms1024m -Xmx1024m  -Duser.home="." -jar minecraft.jar
[23:35] <bastidrazor> bluberella: jockey-text may help you
[23:35] <xx> rg
[23:36] <n4dsp> is 11.10 now worthwhile to install over 11.04?
[23:36] <bluberella> bastidrazor, looks exactly what I was searching for... thank you :-)
[23:36] <ActionPa1snip> n4dsp: if natty is working for you, then I say don't fix it
[23:36] <ermo> iamweirdie: from 'man java', seach for '-D': -Dproperty=value
[23:36] <ermo>              Set a system property value.
[23:36] <n4dsp> thanks
[23:36] <bastidrazor> bluberella: you're welcome
[23:36] <ermo> iamweirdie: in your case, it looks like the system property value 'user.home' is being set to '.' which is the current directory  :)
[23:37] <iamweirdie> ermo back up, from 'man java'?
[23:37] <tensorpudding> n4dsp, if you're worried about bugs, it's pretty good
[23:38] <ermo> iamweirdie: you are not familiar with the concept of 'man' pages? Most unix/linux tools have a an associated manual page. You can read more about the 'man' system by opening a terminal and writing 'man man' :)
[23:38] <iamweirdie> ermo sorry, not a linux guy
[23:38] <ermo> iamweirdie: you quit the man page reader by writing 'q'
[23:38] <ermo> iamweirdie: you search by using '/' and writing the search term
[23:39] <iamweirdie> ok
[23:39] <ermo> iamweirdie: well, 'man man' is a good start if you're the curious sort  :D
[23:39] <iamweirdie> alright, thnx ermo
[23:39] <ermo> best of luck
[23:40] <ermo> NEXT!
[23:40]  * ermo ducks
[23:40]  * jesse__ throws fish at ermo
[23:41] <jesse__> ermo: Sorry.  Habit when people duck.
[23:41] <ermo> :D
[23:41] <jesse__> ermo: I got one: If I deleted my Templates folder, how do I get it back?
[23:42] <jesse__> Creating a Templates folder doesn't make it appear in the context menu.
[23:42] <fellayaboy> reisio
[23:42] <ermo> jesse__: hrm. Good one.
[23:42] <jesse__> ermo: Thanks!
[23:43] <jesse__> fellayaboy: resisio is gone -- vanished!
[23:44] <jesse__> fellayaboy: reisio, rather.
[23:44] <ermo> jesse__: Just for kicks, create a new user profile and see if it gets the Template folder
[23:44] <ermo> by default, I mean
[23:44] <ermo> jesse__: it might be a combination of the folder and some gconf/dconf magic
[23:45]  * ermo is just guessing at this point
[23:46] <jesse__> ermo: Can I still edit settings using gconf-editor if I install it?
[23:46] <fellayaboy> im trying to create a link ...but when i click the link i get this in terminal...it says it couldnt read the config file that the program needs
[23:46] <ermo> jesse__: ... not sure if it's using dconf or gconf, tbh.
[23:47] <ksx4system> how to make Miredo work in latest Ubuntu?
[23:47] <JoshR1> Ok so now how do I set it up?  I need to be able to access these files from outside my network.
[23:47] <reokie> ermo: It says that there aren't any pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[23:47] <reokie> Do I need to add a config file by hand?
[23:47] <fellayaboy> i put the bin file in the /usr/local/mupen64_093 and made a link in /usr/local/bin for mupen64 but when i type in or click the link it doesnt execute because it seeks a conf file...im trying to get it to run from wherever the directory is placed
[23:47] <ermo> reokie: run 'sudo sensors-detect' :)
[23:48] <ksx4system> I have it properly configured, IPv6 enabled in ufw but after sudo /etc/init.d/miredo restart Miredo's interface doesn't come up
[23:48] <fellayaboy> im just using mupen to understand this
[23:48] <ermo> jesse__: if you type 'set | grep XDG' in your terminal, do you get a template related value?
[23:48] <jesse__> fellayaboy: Can you give more information about the link?  What program is supposed to open it?  How did you create it?
[23:48] <JoshR1> Well wait, I know how in Ubuntu but I can't access my raid
[23:49] <JoshR1> It just sends me to the User Home directory.
[23:49] <jesse__> ermo: Nope
[23:49] <bastidrazor> JoshR1: create a symlink to your raid in your home.
[23:49] <ermo> jesse__: ok, in the file manager, press ctrl+h to show hidden files/folders, navigate to ~/.config
[23:49] <JoshR1> Dang mouse is stopped again.
[23:50] <ermo> open the file 'user-dirs.dirs'
[23:50] <jesse__> ermo: Aha!
[23:50] <ermo> jesse__: ^
[23:50] <jesse__> ermo: Perfect.
[23:50] <jesse__> ermo: You're the bee's knees.
[23:50] <ermo> nope, but google is!
[23:50] <JoshR1> lol I can hover over things and move the mouse around but clicking does nothing.
[23:50] <ermo> jesse__: here's my cheat sheet: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2011/10/add-new-context-menu-items-in-ubuntu-easily-ultimate-templates-pack/
[23:50] <jesse__> ermo: Ssshhhhh...
[23:50] <JoshR1> Grr
[23:51] <fellayaboy> i just downloaded the program...it came in a folder...i chmod +x the bin file that runs the program and it runs find when i double click it or ./ it in terminall..however i created a link..ln -s .. in /usr/local/bin but it never works..i ./ in terminal and it says Couldn't read config file '/home/deeman//mupen64.conf': No such file or directory
[23:51] <fellayaboy>
[23:51] <bastidrazor> too man /'s
[23:51] <jesse__> fellayaboy: What bastidrazor said
[23:51] <fellayaboy> i dont understand
[23:52] <JoshR1> Ok how do I create a symlink?
[23:52] <JoshR1> I am not very experienced with Linux.
[23:52] <jesse__> bastidrazor: Actually, that might not be it...
[23:52] <ermo> JoshR1: are you interested in learning a bit more by way of reading? :)
[23:52] <JoshR1> Sure
[23:52] <jesse__> bastidrazor: Linux is pretty good with too many /s in my experience, but I could be wrong...
[23:53] <ermo> JoshR1: http://www.funtoo.org/wiki/Category:Articles <- look at linux fundamentals
[23:53] <jesse__> fellayaboy: Okay, the program expects to run in a certain directory, and it still runs from the original directory, right?
[23:53] <fellayaboy> jesse__, yes thats right
[23:53] <GhostWolf> hi all, i believe im using 11.09 of ubuntu, does anyone know a good program i can install for ubuntu that allows me to edit pics?
[23:53] <yggdrasil> hi can somone tell me how i can get a very new kernel? i was reading an article abou a patch for kernels regarding power savings ?
[23:53] <anadon> I'm having trouble getting minecraft to run.  Ideas?  It looks as if firefox can't run java, but it is installed.
[23:53] <ohpee> I think a sym link is          ln -s [file] ./[shortcut]
[23:54] <brjannc> anadon: can you run it from the command line?
[23:54] <ohpee> are you running minecraft in browser?
[23:54] <scsi203> joshR1: you can create a sym link by using ln /path/to/file from the directory you want the link
[23:54] <scsi203> use the -s switch
[23:55] <fellayaboy> jesse__, so how can i simply make a link to /usr/local/bin ...i dont want to create an Environment path to the file
[23:55] <robro_> GhostWolf, you might try The GIMP or Pinta
[23:55] <jesse__> fellayaboy: I'm looking it up because I don't know either...
[23:55] <ermo> robro_: +1
[23:55] <reokie> ermo: still, I get the same error, it cant find the sensor module
[23:55] <scsi203> ln -s /usr/local/bin Fellayaboy
[23:56] <GhostWolf> robro ok i thought ubuntu 11.09 or whatever is the one before 11.10 already had it but i don't see it installd thanks
[23:56] <ermo> reokie: is this after installing lm-sensors with 'sudo apt-get install lm-sensors'?
[23:56] <yggdrasil> How can i get kernel 3.3 on my kubuntu install ?
[23:56] <ikonia> yggdrasil: you don't
[23:56] <robro_> GhostWolf, No problem :)
[23:56] <yggdrasil> i do
[23:56] <anadon> brjannc: I'm trying the classic trial on their website; its not available for command line use without some hacks.
[23:56] <GhostWolf> robro do you have prefrence to either pinta or gimp?
[23:56] <ikonia> yggdrasil: no, you don't as 3.2 is only in RC status
[23:56] <ohpee> its not a hack
[23:57] <fellayaboy> in /usr/bin i see alot of bin files and when u run it in terminal they run....of course the source files are somewhere else in the computer (does anyone know where they stored? say like firefox. transmission) well i kinda wanna do the same thing except in /usr/local/bin...and any other file
[23:57] <ohpee> its just some editing
[23:57] <ohpee> if its open source
[23:57] <brjannc> anadon: Ah, I understand; can't help you then, I'm no good with the java + browser mess
[23:57] <anadon> crap, well thanks for trying
[23:57] <ohpee> ...wut
[23:57] <robro_> GhostWolf, For basic editing i use Pinta, anything else really I use The GIMP
[23:57] <yggdrasil> right, well 3.2 might do.
[23:57] <ikonia> yggdrasil: it's not build for ubuntu
[23:58] <ikonia> yggdrasil: why do you want it ?
[23:58] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[23:58] <ermo> yggdrasil: do you care if the kernel is unsupported?
[23:58] <yggdrasil> hters apower saving patch.
[23:58] <ikonia> yggdrasil: <IP_ADDRESS> is the current latest in ubuntu
[23:58] <ermo> yggdrasil: oh, you want the PCIe ASPM stuff
[23:58] <fellayaboy> what is %U
[23:58] <yggdrasil> yea
[23:58] <GhostWolf> robro what i want to do is i have a pic that i have on my back cause it has a tatt on it but i want to not show where you can see the hairs that the pic shows
[23:58] <brjannc> fellayaboy: /usr/local/bin should already be in your path
[23:59] <ermo> reokie: gotta run. Best of luck with fancontrol and lm-sensors :)
[23:59] <ermo> jesse__: did it work re. Templates?
[23:59] <fellayaboy> look...theres a bin file somewhere on my pc...i created a link to that same file in /usr/lcaol/bin but of course the bin is dependent on other files...
[23:59] <fellayaboy> so when i try to run ./whateverprogram it wont cuz its looking for a .conf file
[23:59] <robro_> GhostWolf, I guess The GIMP would work best for that, it takes some time to learn but it's worth it
[23:59] <jesse__> ermo: Yep.