[00:00] <dcorbin> well, technically a DVD...
[02:11] <18WADN1K0> You guys! Telepathy keeps marking my gtalk status as busy! I've been pissing off my friends without knowing it :(
[03:05] <Guest55996> teste
[03:06] <Guest55996> Portugal
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> !pt | Guest55996
[03:40] <RaphaelAraujo> Anybody there having problems to compress to .rar using Ark? I'm trying to compress some files as .rar through the Dolphin compression menu and I can compress in .zip, .tar.gz, but not in .rar. When I try to compress in .rar the notification progress goes on and on and never ends, and if I stop it, ark continues to run on the background.
[03:51] <RaphaelAraujo> Anybody with the same kubuntu as me could at least check to see if I'm the only one with this problem? I'm using Kubuntu 13.04
[04:17] <sgrover> having troubles doing an apt-get upgrade on server.  It is complaining that linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic-pae but it is not installed.
[04:17] <sgrover> problem originated with a full /boot partition.
[04:18] <sgrover> removed all unneeded kernels (via lines like: dpkg -P linux-headers-3.2.0-{27,29,31,32,33,34,35,37,40}-generic-pae ), but still reporting that dependency.
[04:18] <sgrover> any ideas how to resolve this?
[05:31] <bga_xyzzy> I upgraded to kubuntu 13.04 and kde doesn't work in either plasma or the other workspace, and unity hides the mouse pointer unless it's over an application.  what are my options, reinstall 13.04?
[05:32] <bga_xyzzy> And, if I reinstall 13.04, can I install it without losing my home directories?
[05:34] <valorie> bga_xyzzy: how did you install it ?
[05:35] <bga_xyzzy> It popped up a window saying kubuntu 13.04 was available, and I clicked on the ok button
[05:36] <valorie> ah
[05:36] <valorie> by "kde doesn't work" what do you mean?
[05:39] <bga_xyzzy> Well, no window manager would start up when the display manager was dmlight, so I installed kdm, and when kde starts, it plays the startup sound and displays some stuff in a menu on the top of the screen, but the mouse only is visible in the top left corner and I can't select anything
[05:39] <bga_xyzzy> It doesn't display any of my old KDE layout either
[05:39] <valorie> that does sound very messed up, indeed
[05:40] <bga_xyzzy> yes, and while googling, I've seen several comments that updating is prone to issues
[05:40] <valorie> if you do want to do a clean install, it's best to back up your ~/home first
[05:41] <valorie> personally, I would do a complete backup, and then just use the whole drive
[05:41] <bga_xyzzy> I sort of figured that.
[05:41] <valorie> simplest and fastest
[05:41] <bga_xyzzy> actually just the partition, it's dual boot with win8
[05:41] <valorie> I had good luck with upgrading, and almost always have had good luck with
[05:42] <valorie> ok
[05:42] <bga_xyzzy> I must say I've never had this sort of problem when upgrading freebsd
[05:42] <valorie> easier than manual, at least for me
[05:42] <bga_xyzzy> except freebsd doesn't support uefi bios yet
[06:36] <ray_> list
[08:21] <spartanfx907_> hallo
[08:21] <spartanfx907_> I changed theme for plasma but today under transparent area of kickoff there appears that the blur effect isn't working instead under panel i see blur Can someone help me?.
[09:28] <george_> Good morning all. Quick question if anyone knows. I searched the web with no luck, I am trying to find a way to force command line boot with a kubuntu installation. Tried editing grub with no luck. This is a setup starting from a ubuntu server 12.04 and then installing kubuntu-desktop. Thanks
[09:29] <george_> It keeps booting into login UI when I want to selectively start UI when required.
[09:36] <george_> Anyone plz?
[10:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:23] <fract> g'day mate
[10:24] <fractaline>  /msg NickServ identify  gomez
[10:25] <fractaline>  /msg NickServ identify
[10:25] <fractaline> ?
[11:23] <palasso> fractaline, change your password. It has been exposed on the channel!
[11:34] <fractaline> palasso,  thanks i will
[11:35] <fractaline> i thought i was hallucinating when i saw that pop up
[11:36] <Mamarok> fractaline: you started the line with a space, that's why
[11:38] <fractaline> i see,  thanks Mamarok
[11:46] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[11:46] <ovidiu-florin> what command do I run to find out what video driver I'm using?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, run dkms status in the terminal
[11:48] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: returns nothing
[11:48] <ovidiu-florin> that's why I asked for a different command
[11:48] <BluesKaj> then you are using the default driver
[11:48] <BluesKaj> nouveau
[11:49] <ovidiu-florin> nouveau?
[11:49] <ovidiu-florin> is there a way to reset it?
[11:49] <ovidiu-florin> I'm stuck at 800x600 again?
[11:49] <ovidiu-florin> on Live CD it works fine
[11:50] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, try this , dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[11:51] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: http://paste.kde.org/759716/
[11:53] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-304 , then sudo apt-get install nvidia-313
[11:56] <ovidiu-florin> it says that nvidia-304 is not installed
[11:56] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: ^
[11:57] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: there is no nvidia-313, only nvidia-313-updates
[11:57] <ovidiu-florin> or nvidia-313-updates-dev
[11:57] <ovidiu-florin> which one?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> updates
[11:57] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[11:59] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, that's strange because you have nvidia-304 listed , probly confif files ...run sudo apt-get autremove then sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:59] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: done
[11:59] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[12:01] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, do you see nvidia 313.30 listed in muon ?
[12:01] <ovidiu-florin> muon what? updates, packages?
[12:01] <ovidiu-florin> software center?
[12:02] <ovidiu-florin> or jokey?
[12:02] <ovidiu-florin> in muon package manager I see installed only 313
[12:03] <ovidiu-florin> 313.30-ubuntu1
[12:03] <ovidiu-florin> listed and installed
[12:03] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: ^
[12:04] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: should I reboot? or is there something else I should do?
[12:04] <BluesKaj> ok then you shouild fine
[12:04] <BluesKaj> reboot yes
[12:04] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[12:04] <yossarianuk> ps I have a PPA if you want the latest stable nvidia driver
[12:04] <ovidiu-florin> bbl
[12:04] <yossarianuk> https://launchpad.net/~morgancoxuk/+archive/nvidia-319-ubuntu-13.04
[12:04] <ovidiu-florin> I'll try this first
[12:04] <yossarianuk> 319.23
[12:05] <BluesKaj> yoss he wants to get his dual monitot setup going
[12:05] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk,^
[12:05] <yossarianuk> i know - however you may as well be using the latest driver to do it.....
[12:07] <BluesKaj> are you using the 319 driver yossarianuk ...dunno if it's stable enough
[12:17] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: I don't have a dual mnonitor
[12:17] <ovidiu-florin> I have just one
[12:18] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: dkms status now reports: nvidia-313-updates, 313.30, 3.8.0-23-generic, x86_64: installed
[12:18] <ovidiu-florin> and I am stuck at 1024x768... well... it's an inprovment
[12:19] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, sorry I thought you had dual mons
[12:19] <BluesKaj> what is your monitor ?
[12:20] <ovidiu-florin> I have one monitor connected on the same video board on DVI and VGA
[12:20] <BluesKaj> why both ?
[12:20] <ovidiu-florin> because it sometimes send the signal only through one or the other
[12:20] <ovidiu-florin> sends*
[12:20] <ovidiu-florin> for example:
[12:20] <ovidiu-florin> reboot, DVI works, VGA doesn't
[12:21] <ovidiu-florin> reboot, VGA works, DVI doesn't
[12:21] <ovidiu-florin> reboot both work
[12:21] <ovidiu-florin> this happened a few times
[12:21] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, is th vga of the motherboard or the nvidia ?
[12:21] <ovidiu-florin> and now, with this driver I have 1024x768 on vga and 800x600 on DVI (maximum)
[12:22] <ovidiu-florin> the PCIex video board
[12:22] <BluesKaj> yes , but where is the vga located , mobo or nvidia card?
[12:22] <ovidiu-florin> they are both on the nvidia card
[12:22] <ovidiu-florin> I also have a VGA onboard, but I've never used it
[12:23] <yossarianuk> 319 is more stable than the others......
[12:23] <BluesKaj> ok boot into the bios and make sure the pci card is default , don't choose auto , then disconnect the vga
[12:24] <yossarianuk> If your not running the 2319 series you missing out on all the bug/stability fixes and perofrmance improvements mentioned http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-319.17-driver.html
[12:24] <yossarianuk> sorry the 319 series
[12:24] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: the PCI is default, but I'll double check
[12:24] <yossarianuk> the version shipped in the normal ubuntu repos has bugs in fixed in 319 - why would they be more stable ?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, lets try to get his connection sorted out
[12:25] <yossarianuk> np
[12:29] <ovidiu-florin> It froze
[12:29] <ovidiu-florin> Hard reboot
[12:31] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj pai was default
[12:31] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, do you still have the vga connected?
[12:31] <ovidiu-florin> PCI *
[12:31] <ovidiu-florin> Yes
[12:32] <ovidiu-florin> Disconnected it now
[12:33] <ovidiu-florin> Running on Dvi only
[12:33] <BluesKaj> and , what resolutions do have available ?
[12:33] <ovidiu-florin> One moment
[12:34] <ovidiu-florin> În Nvidia settings, auto
[12:35] <ovidiu-florin> That means 800*600
[12:35] <SonikkuAmerica> ovidiu-florin: What's the output of xrandr? !pastebinit
[12:37] <ovidiu-florin> SonikkuAmerica: http://paste.kde.org/759770/
[12:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Is that the only option in the drop-down menu that you have?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> what's your monitor ovidiu-florin ?
[12:38] <ovidiu-florin> Horizon 22"
[12:40] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know why xrandr shows 2 DVIs
[12:40] <ovidiu-florin> I have only one
[12:40] <ovidiu-florin> and 2 VGAs
[12:41] <ovidiu-florin> and the HDMI, I've never used it
[12:41] <ovidiu-florin> do you guys have any other ideeas I could try?
[12:42] <ovidiu-florin> should I try the 319?
[12:43] <ovidiu-florin> SonikkuAmerica: in the Nvidia settings, yes
[12:43] <ovidiu-florin> same is Display settings
[12:44] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: are you still here?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> I wonder if the EDID is seeing the wrong monitor display capabilities
[12:45] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: on the live CD it works fine, with no tweeking
[12:45] <yossarianuk> ovidiu-florin: here is an obvious thing to check (which i'm sure you already have) - check the VGA cables are properly in and restart
[12:46] <ovidiu-florin> yossarianuk: done, that, even tryed replacing them
[12:46] <ovidiu-florin> same result
[12:46] <BluesKaj> yeah i had to reboot ,my nvidia drivers were regressed to 313 , so i just installed the 319 ..I'm on saucy 13.10
[12:46] <yossarianuk> well feel free to try my drivers - I made then as I don't like using xorg-edgers, etc as they update other packages as well as nvidia
[12:47] <ovidiu-florin> yossarianuk: my drivers?
[12:47] <yossarianuk> my ppa
[12:47] <yossarianuk> sorry
[12:48] <yossarianuk> afre you running 13.04 ?
[12:48] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[12:48] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: what do you think?
[12:48] <yossarianuk> if you add my ppa
[12:48] <yossarianuk> https://launchpad.net/~morgancoxuk/+archive/nvidia-319-ubuntu-13.04
[12:48] <yossarianuk> then apt-get update
[12:48] <yossarianuk> you can select 319 in the 'additional drivers' section
[12:50] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: what do you think?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, sudo apt-get install read-edid
[12:52] <ovidiu-florin> what's that?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, then  sudo get-edid | parse-edid
[12:52] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: done
[12:53] <BluesKaj> and pastebin it
[12:55] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: http://paste.kde.org/759782/
[12:55] <StFS> Hi. I'm having problems with my soundcard on Kubuntu 12.04. I'm getting hissing and cracking sound which seems to be "connected" to the HDD in some way. I have an Intel soundcard. Anybody know if this is a known problem and if there is some fix?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, for some reason the monitor capability isn't being transmitted to the video card using EDID ...maybe the vga connection might give you more resolution options . Could be one or some of the pins on the dvi card isn't connecting properly
[13:04] <BluesKaj> StFS, do you have any sound besides the noise ?
[13:04] <StFS> yes
[13:04] <StFS> I can hear it but it's very degraded
[13:04] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: I have more options on VGA
[13:06] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, then I suspect the dvi cable/connection is the problem
[13:06] <ovidiu-florin> I've changed the DVI cable
[13:06] <ovidiu-florin> it could be the socket
[13:06] <ovidiu-florin> but why does it work on Live CD?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> StFS, in the terminal , cat /proc/asound/modules
[13:08] <StFS>  0 snd_hda_intel
[13:09] <StFS> BluesKaj: although I actually think I've managed to totally screw up my system... I'm just going to upgrade to 13.04
[13:09] <StFS> I'll be back if the problem continues there
[13:11] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: do you have any other ideas?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> StFS, open alsamixer in the terminal
[13:12] <BluesKaj> make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key' then turn those controls up to the max.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, what are your resolution options with VGA only connection ?
[13:17] <ovidiu-florin> auto is on 1024x768
[13:17] <ovidiu-florin> max is 1360x768
[13:18] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, you could try pasting the 319 driver ppa that yossarianuk posted , https://launchpad.net/~morgancoxuk/+archive/nvidia-319-ubuntu-13.04 , do a sudo apt-get update , and install it from the additional drivers in kmenu>system
[13:18] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin,paste the ppa  in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:18] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: can't I add it with apt-add-reposotory ?
[13:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Or run [ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:morgancoxuk/nvidia-319-ubuntu-13.04 ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-319]
[13:18] <SonikkuAmerica> ovidiu-florin: Read what I wrote above.
[13:18] <ovidiu-florin> SonikkuAmerica: saw that
[13:18] <BluesKaj> yes if you wish , ovidiu-florin
[13:18] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: SonikkuAmerica, shouldn't I uninstall 313 first?
[13:19] <SonikkuAmerica> ovidiu-florin: Probably a good idea.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, when you insatll the new driver the old one will be autoremoved
[13:20] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, if you use the additional driver installer
[13:21] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: it the past you've advised me not to use that, and use apt or dpkg
[13:26] <ovidiu-florin> done, rebooting
[13:26] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, yes it was buggy , but it's been fixed
[13:28] <ovidiu-florin> Back
[13:28] <ovidiu-florin> same result
[13:29] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: ^
[13:29] <ovidiu-florin> no difference
[13:29] <ovidiu-florin> there must bee some setting somewhere that is wrong, and that could be reset
[13:29] <BluesKaj> with vga , dvi or both ?
[13:30] <ovidiu-florin> both
[13:30] <ovidiu-florin> how do I remove/reset all the video settings?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> your monitor isn't transmitting it;s capabilities to your graphics card
[13:31] <ovidiu-florin> then why does it work on live CD?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> try the live cd with and run the edid command to see what comes up , sudo get-edid | parse-edid
[13:32] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[13:32] <ovidiu-florin> br
[13:32] <ovidiu-florin> brb
[13:37] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: I'm on the liveCD
[13:37] <ovidiu-florin_> normal resolution is 1680x1050
[13:38] <ovidiu-florin_> it can also do 1600x1200
[13:38] <ovidiu-florin_> but the image is not as clear
[13:40] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, which connection are you using ?
[13:41] <ovidiu-florin> Dvi
[13:42] <BluesKaj> ok ovidiu-florin have you tried the vga connection on the motherboard?
[13:42] <ovidiu-florin> No, wait
[13:43] <ovidiu-florin> I was using the vga
[13:44] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: Ok, I'm back on the live CD
[13:44] <ovidiu-florin_> what was the edid package, again?
[13:45] <ovidiu-florin_> found it
[13:46] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: what is the edid command?
[13:48] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: found it: http://paste.kde.org/759836/
[13:48] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, sudo get-edid | parse-edid
[13:50] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: what do you make of this?
[13:50] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: I'm connected on VGA only
[13:53] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: are you still here? If you have other ideas, please tell me. Otherwise, I'll like to begin installing Arch Linux.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, which VGA , the motherboard or the graphics card?
[13:53] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: the graphics card
[13:53] <ovidiu-florin_> I only use the graphics card
[13:53] <BluesKaj> try the motherboard like I suggested earlier
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin_> I'll have to remove the PCI card then
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin_> ok
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin_> bbl
[13:54] <BluesKaj> it might be the driver and I want to isolate the the problem
[13:54] <BluesKaj> no need just change it in the bios
[14:04] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: This is from the Onboard VGA: http://paste.kde.org/759872/
[14:07] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: should I try a different monitor?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, looks like your pci card isn't receiving the edid signal that enables the proper resolutions to display on your monitor , since the motherboard vga reads the edid perfectly
[14:07] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: have you seen line 36-39?
[14:07] <ovidiu-florin_> lines*
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, do you have another monitor that you can test with the pci card?
[14:08] <ovidiu-florin_> that is perfect?
[14:08] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: yes
[14:08] <ovidiu-florin_> so, you're saying that this works "perfect" with the onboard VGA?
[14:09] <ovidiu-florin_> kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[14:09] <ovidiu-florin_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[14:09] <ovidiu-florin_> this does not show if the PCI card is connected
[14:09] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, the call says it failed but the description is correct
[14:10] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: please explain
[14:10] <ovidiu-florin_> make me understand
[14:11] <BluesKaj> it still read the edid perfectly despite the warning ...I have had the same with my samsung monitor that I was using a while back
[14:12] <ovidiu-florin_> can you please send me the pastebin that I've sent you before? the one from the PCI?
[14:12] <ovidiu-florin_> I want to compare them
[14:12] <BluesKaj> but try the other monitor so we can be sure
[14:12] <yossarianuk> I notice that kubuntu bumbed the kde verson
[14:12] <yossarianuk> which is a good thing
[14:13] <yossarianuk> kde released 4.10.4 yesterday is that going to be in kubuntu 13.04 ?
[14:13] <yossarianuk> its now 4.10.3
[14:15] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: plese seand me the link
[14:16] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, they look the same , but try the other monitor anyway  http://paste.kde.org/759872/
[14:16] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: the other link
[14:16] <ovidiu-florin_> I've just sent you this one
[14:17] <BluesKaj> that's it
[14:18] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: this one: http://paste.kde.org/759836/
[14:18] <BluesKaj> http://paste.kde.org/759782/
[14:19] <BluesKaj> don't get hung up the difference , try the other monitor
[14:19] <ovidiu-florin_> ok
[14:20] <ovidiu-florin_> bbl
[14:28] <yofel> yossarianuk: 13.04 will get 4.10.4 as regular update in about 2 weeks after it's been tested
[14:29] <yofel> the PPA's will get it today/tomorrow
[14:31] <yossarianuk> yofel: thats good cheers !
[14:32] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: here it is from the PCI and a different monitor: http://paste.kde.org/759926/
[14:34] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: on DVI
[14:34] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: on live CD
[14:35] <BluesKaj> looks like the dvi cable/connector might be faulty, ovidiu-florin_
[14:35] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: how come?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, dunno , broken pin ?
[14:36] <ovidiu-florin_> no, I mean How did you get to that conclusion?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> The EDID data should not be trusted as the VBE call failed
[14:37] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: yes, and???
[14:37] <ovidiu-florin_> I've gotten the same thing on the first monitor on the onboard VGA
[14:37] <ovidiu-florin_> and the same thing on the First monitor on the VGA on PCI (not on live CD)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> and you haven't told us how the new monitor is working except for the edid
[14:38] <ovidiu-florin_> with the default driver, on live CD: 1920x1080
[14:39] <bjrohan> Hi everyone.  My package updater would usually let me know of any updates on a daily basis. The last 2 days it has not done so. When I run the updater, it finds the updates, I enter my password, and then it says it couldn't download the packages, when I choose to show details, nothing appears. Any ideas how to remedy tis?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin_, so obviously the EDID is wrong , mky conclusion is we should ignore it.
[14:40] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: this is a biger monitor
[14:40] <ovidiu-florin_> the second one
[14:41] <ovidiu-florin_> and this one works on DVI
[14:41] <ovidiu-florin_> so the cable should be ok
[14:42] <BluesKaj> yes , that's why the EDID doesn't mean much ..let's forget that
[14:42] <ovidiu-florin_> BluesKaj: what do you mean, the EDID doesn't mean much?
[14:43] <ovidiu-florin_> I don't understand.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> forget the edid , it's not working
[14:44] <ovidiu-florin_> how do you know that?
[14:50] <ovidiu-florin_> to me it looks like this last EDID gives more information than any of the past.
[14:50] <ovidiu-florin_> On the installed Kubuntu, on vga on PCI, I got the same EDID as on the LiveCD on the onBoard VGA
[14:51] <BluesKaj> vpn connection took me down , for some reason
[14:56] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: it works now
[14:56] <ovidiu-florin> I don't understand this creature
[14:56] <ovidiu-florin> I've rebooted into the installed OS, using the PCI board, connected only on DVI
[14:56] <ovidiu-florin> and it work's now
[14:57] <ovidiu-florin> and it's using the nvidia 319 driver
[14:58] <BluesKaj> so it probly was the driver that was at fault then , ovidiu-florin ,but sometimes these things are hard to tracj=k down when there are unrelated errors
[14:59] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: KDE keeps crashing
[15:00] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, add the raring backports ppa to your sources.list
[15:00] <BluesKaj> but run an update then dist-upgrade first
[15:02] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[15:14] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: done, rebooting, to test that all is ok
[15:17] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: It still crashes
[15:17] <ovidiu-florin> Plasma Desktop Shell crashes
[15:22] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, which compositing type are you using in systemsetting>desktop effects>advanced ?
[15:23] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: XRender
[15:25] <BluesKaj> try 'OpenGL' and for the Qt graphics try 'raster'
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> OK, will try after lunch
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> bbl
[15:28] <yossarianuk> if you have nvidia you should use raster
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, yes OpenGL and raster , even with my entry level 8400gs makes a difference , especially on this plasma monitor/tv
[15:49] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:58] <ovidiu-florin> hey lordievader
[15:59] <lordievader> Hey ovidiu-florin, how are you?
[15:59] <ovidiu-florin> it work's
[15:59] <ovidiu-florin> kind of..
[15:59] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Kind of?
[16:00] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader, BluesKaj switched to OpenGl with Raster. waiting to see if it still crashes
[16:58] <phil_> Can someone help me with a wireless problem please? My laptop has a Realtek. RTL8723AE. It is running real slow, when running at all. I have 13.04 32 bit installed
[17:04] <Guest79704> Hi
[17:20] <dawid__> Hi
[18:09] <ofv> hello. after upgrading to 4.10.3 there is no windows on the desktop, nor taskbar, nothing
[18:09] <ofv> swithching to a virtual console and executing `top' shows that applications are running
[18:10] <ofv> plasma-desktop is running too, the only thing displayed is the default background
[18:11] <ofv> Alt-f2 works for making the Execute box appear and the requested application runs, but nothing is displayed
[18:11] <ofv> can you help me to diagnose the problem?
[18:13] <ofv> /var/log/kdm.log shows "kdemain: no DBUS session found. check if you have started the DBS server."
[18:14] <ofv> ps -A | grep -i dbus shows thow instances of dbus-daemon and one of dbus-launch
[18:14] <gelinp> is it here to talk with Jansi ?
[18:16] <gelinp> #jansi
[18:16] <gelinp> join #jansi
[18:29] <lordievader> gelinp: Jansi?
[18:35] <genii> !info jansi
[18:35] <genii> !info jansi precise
[18:35] <lordievader> gelinp: Might be a person.
[18:35] <genii> Hm. http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/jansi says different
[18:36] <genii> ( than the bot, that is )
[18:37] <yofel> !info libjansi-java precise
[18:37] <yofel> the bot doesn't know what source packages are ;)
[18:37] <Unit193> libjansi-java (source: jansi), sure it does. ;)
[18:38] <yofel> well, nvm ^^
[18:38] <yofel> !botsnack
[18:38] <genii> Heh
[18:47] <genii> cgcfir: Please fix your connection
[19:14] <cs86294> boo
[19:16] <cs86294> bbbffff
[19:17] <cs86294> ggggggg
[19:17] <cs86294> pppp
[19:23] <genii> cs86294: If you have some Kubuntu question please just ask it. But don't spam, it's unnecessary and annoying.
[19:36] <ahoneybun> can I get any help with making bespin?
[19:37] <jack__> Can I set up a private chat room on here, across two windows PCs?
[19:39] <genii> jack__: As soon as you make a room that didn't exist by /join ##new-roomname  it's one you are op of. Make sure to use two ## because only one # is for official channels. Once you have a room you are op of you can make it invite-only
[19:39] <genii> jack__: See http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml  for explanations of the different modes and so on you can set.
[19:39] <jack__> how do I invite the people? IP or username?
[19:40] <genii> jack__: /invite username
[19:40] <jack__> thank you very much I will check out the link as well
[19:40] <genii> Also, that usage is covered in the documentation link :)
[20:21] <hubert_> Hallo?
[20:23] <lordievader> Hey hubert_, how are you?
[20:24] <hubert_> very good...just testing quassel for now
[20:24] <hubert_> an it works
[20:25] <hubert_> ok, have to go for today. More later Thank you an bye bye
[20:26] <lordievader> Testing Quassel? Probably new to the whole Kubuntu thing.
[20:31] <BluesKaj> lordievader, quassel's default on kubuntu
[20:32] <lordievader> ... I guess I'm too tired thought he was refering to Quantal... *sigh*
[20:40] <palasso> ahoneybun, I installed Bespin before a year. I followed those steps: http://cloudcity.sourceforge.net/download.php
[20:40] <ahoneybun> I'm having issues
[20:41] <palasso> which part?
[20:41] <ahoneybun> making it
[20:41] <palasso> on which step are you?
[20:43] <ahoneybun> palasso: /home/aaron/cloudcity-code/build/kwin/../../kwin/client.h:22:25: fatal error: kdecoration.h: No such file or directory
[20:44] <palasso> on what command? make?
[20:45] <ahoneybun> yes
[20:49] <jimmy51_> my boot hangs after this line:  "mounting root file system ... begin: running /scripts/casper-premount ... done"
[20:51] <genii> jimmy51_: Have you tried nomodeset ?
[20:52] <genii> !nomodeset
[20:52] <genii> ( not just for black screens, but where it hangs on starting X generally)
[20:53] <OvenWerks> Question: has kubuntu/kde 13.10 lost the window decorations on purpose?
[20:53] <genii> OvenWerks: #ubuntu+1 for Saucy please
[20:54] <OvenWerks> KDE as well?
[20:54] <genii> ( all *buntu including Kubuntu )
[20:54] <OvenWerks> Thanks
[20:54] <ahoneybun> palasso: any idea?
[20:54] <jimmy51_> genii i have not.  i've tried xforcevesa
[20:55] <genii> jimmy51_: Could also try to put:  vga    ...to see if forcing it to low-res works
[20:56] <jimmy51_> genii: these are settings i'd append, right?  like... KERNEL netboot/casper/vmlinuz APPEND root=blah blah blah initrd=/whatever nomodeset ?
[20:57] <puff`> Afternoon.  I recently installed 13.04 + kubuntu-desktop.  My old install is 12.04 LTS + kubuntu-desktop.  I have to say, there are a lot of UI changes and most of them are annoying.
[20:58] <puff> I just now tried to set up empathy on the new install... and ubuntu wants access to everything in my google. WTF?
[20:58] <genii> jimmy51_: Yes, just to put at the end of the line
[20:58] <puff> I don't want it to manage photos and videos, manage files in my Google Drive, mess with my email, and perform this operations when I'm not using the application.  I just want to be able to use empathy to chat.
[20:59] <puff> Is there something I have to disable or something?
[21:01] <jimmy51_> genii, no change :(.  this is so weird.  it worked with jaunty.  same process for raring and it doesn't boot.
[21:01] <genii> Yes, odd.
[21:02] <genii> I'd like to assist more but must leave work and do some chores :)
[22:12] <BlackCurrent_> i want to link with any Group which deal with application of CS, IT, Embeded , Computer Vision , EE in Biology ...
[22:13] <BlackCurrent_> i want to link with any Group which deal with application of CS, IT, Embeded , Computer Vision , EE in Biology  or medical field...
[22:38] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit