[00:00] <eyastaifour> the file is apparently readonly ...
[00:00] <eyastaifour> i'll copy/paste it in a new file, then do the copying
[00:02] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: great, file copied
[00:03] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Now reboot and you should see the new entries in the grub menu, select the "Try Ubuntu without installing" option and come back here (there is one more step before you can actually run the installer).
[00:05] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: Great, thanks. will be back in a few
[00:07] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You're welcome.
[00:07] <OerHeks> noone4, stop trying DCC connect with me, thanks/
[00:07] <someuser> I've tried to install MATLAB on a mounted harddrive (not same as OS). Now I  get "unable to execute /usr/local/bin/matlab: Permission denied" even if try to start it with sudo? Any ideas.
[00:08] <vbe> maybe it's mounted noexec
[00:09] <Jordan_U> someuser: First, running commands with sudo unless you know that it needs, and was designed to be safe to run with, root permissions is a bad idea. You shouldn't just run things as root whenever you get a permissions denied error.
[00:10] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: the machine booted, but i only see a mouse cursor on a black background. i dont see disk activity (the LED) flashing either,, could it be X failing me again? or should i give it few more minutes ?
[00:10] <someuser> Jordan_U: I know. Just trying to emphizes it's wierd.
[00:10] <Jordan_U> someuser: Please pastebin the output of "mount".
[00:10] <gordonjcp> someuser: you haven't got permissions to run it
[00:11] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 12.04 ... I copied my smb.conf from my 10.04 machine which was working just fine. Basically inside one of my shares I symlink to another location. It all worked before but now it doesn't
[00:11] <gordonjcp> someuser: if it's a removable drive, that won't work
[00:11] <phillllijw> I run unity. Can anyone recommend an app or something that will display performance stats?
[00:11] <Jordan_U> someuser: If you know, then why did you try to run matlab as root?
[00:11] <gordonjcp> someuser: you almost certainly have it mounted noexec
[00:11] <someuser> gordonjcp: It's a permenet hardrive
[00:11] <someuser> gordonjcp: How to I check if its moutned noexec?
[00:11] <vbe> someuser: run 'mount'
[00:12] <vbe> someuser: run 'mount'
[00:12] <someuser> /dev/sdb1 on /media/storage type ext4 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[00:12] <leftyfb> I can follow any other directory in my share, but can't even see the symlinks
[00:12] <someuser> I see.... hehe
[00:12] <Jordan_U> someuser: Bingo :).  How did you get around that the first time?
[00:14] <leftyfb> anyone?
[00:14] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: when i booted in grub the first time, i only had 2 menu entries. i picked the recovery mode one (2). i was presented with a small interface that allowed me to run FailSafeX. I chose this option, then his return
[00:14] <lastleo85> how can i install Ubuntu on MacBook Pro
[00:14] <phillllijw> just installed ubuntu last night. How can I get middle-click to allow me to scroll up/down web pages?
[00:15] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: do i restart into that running configuration, maybe to edit the custom.cfg or some other file ?
[00:15] <lfactor> hi guys, i've just installed windows 8 onto a system that was previously running only ubuntu, i've booted into ubuntu and everything works fine, however windows won't boot
[00:15] <lfactor> it gives me EUFI file not found errors
[00:16] <lfactor> can i easily convert my boot to be mbr style instead of eufi ? Is that the issue?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Unfortunately I don't think that the LiveCD has a similar recovery mode option, though we do have some options none the less. Can you get to a terminal with ctrl+alt+F1?
[00:18] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: Ctrl Alt F1 yields a terminal
[00:18] <lastleo85> how can i install Ubuntu on MacBook Pro
[00:19] <OerHeks> !mac | lastleo85
[00:19] <lastleo85> thanks
[00:20] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Does the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe exist?
[00:21] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: no
[00:22] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: And can you connect to the internet from within Ubuntu? (was it a Windows specific networking problem or more general?)
[00:23] <eyastaifour> it was windows specific, since i was able to use pastebin few moments ago (that made me very ahppy :))
[00:24] <unrar> ohai
[00:24] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i'm really thankful for your assistance in the past hour or so..
[00:25] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: "wget http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/xorg.conf.failsafe" then "sudo cp xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[00:26] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: No problem, it's an interesting quest :)
[00:27] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: im not on the network now.. is it OK if I reboot into what was working, download the file somewhere ?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes, whatever is the easiest way for you to get the file.
[00:28] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: /isodevice now is what was /host few moments ago, right ?
[00:29] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes.
[00:30] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Another option would be to mount your Wubi root.disk and copy the Xorg.conf from there, no reboot required.
[00:31] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: let's try your last suggestion. FailSafeX is not working anymore. it claims it couldn't create a lock on a file that doesnt exist, and that gdm is not run....
[00:32] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: lightdm is what Ubuntu currently uses by default, not GDM.
[00:32] <subman> anyone here use deluge?  I can't seem to be able to figure out how to even get it started!  I'm installing the webui version and I don't know to 'connect'
[00:33] <eyastaifour> so, i m restarting - selecting grub's "try before installing". and now I need to mount my wubi root.disk - how do i mount it ?
[00:34] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i found something in /isodevice/ubundu/disks/root.disk
[00:34] <con-man> anyone else having issue swith certain youtube videos not playing but others do?  Specifically in chrome?  In firefox the colours are all inverted
[00:35] <con-man> if I don't listen to "Apples" by Delhi2Dublin soon I'm gonna freak out
[00:36] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: That's the file. So just "sudo mount -o loop /isodevice/ubundu/disks/root.disk /mnt/" and then "sudo cp /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[00:37] <Archio> Hi, I accidentally closed a terminal window running apt-get install before it was finished, and now any apt operations result in "unmet dependencies", and it looks like the main package that is causing the issue is libc6.
[00:37] <Archio> Is there any way I can "reset" apt-get?
[00:38] <melkor> Archio yes, what happens when you run apt-get install -f
[00:38] <Smackbook> do bad blocks mean lost data?
[00:38] <cornernote> im not awesome at ubuntu, but seeing as nobody has answerd yet... try  apt-get clean  ?
[00:38] <melkor> Smackbook: not nescessarily.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> Archio: This doesn't 'reset' apt-get, but try "sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install".
[00:38] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: great, how can i get back to X after copying the file ?
[00:38] <cornernote> ok, well someone answered as i did =)  ... i'll stand back =)
[00:38] <Jordan_U> cornernote: Archio: "apt-get clean" will *not* help.
[00:38] <melkor> Smackbook: they often can indicate a failing hard drive which will result in lost of data.
[00:38] <Archio> @melkor Tried that, I get some "locked by another process" errors ending in "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[00:39] <cornernote> ok, thanks Jordan_U for clarifying
[00:39] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i did a PS aux | grep X
[00:39] <eyastaifour> found it, killed it, and now i have a GYIUI
[00:39] <Archio> And @Jordan_U Using "sudo dpkg --configure -a" results in errors ending in "Errors were encountered while processing: man-db libc6-dev"
[00:40] <melkor> Archio: there is a lock file, but are there any apt-get processes running?
[00:40] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great. Now we need to unmount your Windows paritition so that we can install Ubuntu. "sudo umount /mnt/ && sudo umount /isodevice/".
[00:41] <Archio> @melkor I don't think so, since I closed the terminal window. I just verified there aren't by "ps aux | grep apt-get"
[00:42] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: but whenever i enter my password in the GUI, the screen goes black for a second, a small sound plays, and i'm offered with the logon screen again
[00:42] <melkor> Archio: usually "sudo apt-get install -f" works for me though it has been awhile.
[00:42] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: And if "sudo umount /isodevice/" says that the device is busy, please post the output of "sudo losetup -a".
[00:42] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: at first, it wouldnt logong using any of my credentials. so i went back to terminal and created a user, and assigned a password to it
[00:42] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: That was the wrong thing to do, you need to use the liveCD user to install Ubuntu.
[00:43] <sireangelus2_> hello
[00:43] <sireangelus2_> i'd like to know which are the kernel modules for adb
[00:44] <Archio> @melkor This is the output I get from "sudo apt-get install -f": http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327975/
[00:44] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: sorry, it was based on assumptions. i'm restarting again into "try ubuntu" menu
[00:44] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Don't do that yet.
[00:44] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: I'm trying to figure out it creating another user would actually cause a problem.
[00:45] <blackshirt> sireangelus2_, adb ?
[00:45] <sireangelus2_> adb
[00:45] <sireangelus2_> it's the android debug clien
[00:45] <sireangelus2_> t
[00:45] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: but i thought we were booting the ISO now, and it's all in RAM, so a restart would refresh it all...
[00:45] <leftyfb> hello?
[00:45] <Smackbook> i've got an SSD (my os drive on my server) which is having problems, trying to run apt-get upgrade or dpkg-reconfigure drops the drive into RO mode and then any sudo command gives IO errors and seg faults.  I have to REISUB to even reboot it.  badblocks finds 41604028 bad blocks.  is my drive dying?
[00:45] <sireangelus2_> part of android sdk
[00:46] <phillllijw> HI best friends. I want to set up my mouse buttons but it says to edit xorg.conf but it does not exist. Where is it?
[00:46] <blackshirt> hello leftyb
[00:46] <psusi> Smackbook, yep
[00:46] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes it will, I was just hoping to save time by not needing to do the Xorg.conf copying again. Though we might as well restart just to be safe.
[00:46] <psusi> Smackbook, check the smart status in the disk utility
[00:46] <con-man> anyone else having issue swith certain youtube videos not playing but others do?  Specifically in chrome?  In firefox the colours are all inverted
[00:46] <con-man> if I don't listen to "Apples" by Delhi2Dublin soon I'm gonna freak out
[00:47] <Smackbook> psusi: interestingly, the smartstatus overall helath test is PASSED
[00:47] <Jordan_U> con-man: With Ubuntu 12.04 and Nvidia drivers?
[00:47] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: so, i now have  a GUI - logon screen, asking for a username
[00:47] <Smackbook> psusi: which i dont understand
[00:47] <psusi> are there any reallocated, unrecoverable, or pending sectors?
[00:47] <con-man> Jordan_U, how'd you guess?
[00:47] <sireangelus2_> con-man, on what hardware are you on?
[00:47] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Username "ubuntu", blank password.
[00:48] <con-man> sireangelus2_, Ubuntu 12.04 and nVidia x275
[00:48] <psusi> Smackbook, what is the exact badblocks command you ran?
[00:48] <Jordan_U> con-man: It's a known bug with VDPAU.
[00:48] <con-man> frack
[00:48] <con-man> Jordan_U, options? if any?
[00:48] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 12.04 ... I copied my smb.conf from my 10.04 machine which was working just fine. Basically inside one of my shares I symlink to another location. It all worked before but now it doesn't
[00:49] <leftyfb> I can follow any other directory in my share, but can't even see the symlinks
[00:49] <Jordan_U> con-man: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue see the accepted answer there.
[00:49] <Smackbook> psusi: sudo badblocks -sv /dev/sda
[00:49] <Smackbook> psusi: i dont knwo how to tell about those other stats
[00:49] <psusi> Smackbook, they are listed in the SMART status
[00:50] <PatrickC|Studyin> ok, quick question: i have things that need 64 bit to compile, and some that need 32 bit to compile
[00:50] <PatrickC|Studyin> is there any way to do both from one install? without running a VM
[00:50] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: the only file that I needed to copy was /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe, correct ?
[00:50] <Archio> @Jordan_U I tried "sudo apt-get install -f", but I'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1327975/
[00:51] <subman> Anyone have a good recommendation for a torrent client for a headless server?  Maybe something with a web gui interface?
[00:51] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes, copying it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[00:51] <Smackbook> psusi: http://pastebin.com/zqX2AqWR
[00:51] <psusi> PatrickC|Studyin, you can run 32bit programs on a 64bit system, but if you are compiling from source, it should compile to whichever you are running
[00:51] <Smackbook> psusi: i dont know what of that output is results vs settings
[00:51] <PatrickC|Studyin> psusi: the stuff i have to compile won't compile on 64 yet
[00:51] <PatrickC|Studyin> but some of the stuff will only compile on 54
[00:51] <PatrickC|Studyin> 64*
[00:51] <Smackbook> subman: use deluge
[00:52] <blackshirt> !samba | leftyb
[00:52] <Smackbook> subman: has a great webui
[00:52] <con-man> Jordan_U, cheers bro that fixed the inverted colours issue in firefox. Chrome issue still happens though
[00:52] <subman> Smackbook, Tried deluge, couldn't figure it out.
[00:52] <con-man> sireangelus2_, any ideas
[00:52] <Smackbook> subman: really? your other options are transmission and rtorrent.
[00:52] <con-man> sireangelus2_, got the inverted colours issue resolved by Jordan_U's suggestion.  So firefox works now.  But chrome still isn't loading some videos
[00:53] <sireangelus2_> what is nvidia x275?
[00:53] <subman> Smackbook, yup, got it installed but then this connection window came up.  Never knew what it wanted.
[00:53] <con-man> sireangelus2_, my video cards
[00:53] <PatrickC|Studyin> so does anyone have a suggestion?
[00:54] <psusi> Smackbook, looks like your drive has some pretty bad firmware and isn't reporting most of the usual smart attributes... certainly does have a bunch of uncorrectable errors logged though so yea, looks like it is hosed... may just be some kind of transient corruption though that a full reformat may fix
[00:54] <psusi> PatrickC|Studyin, what kind of stuff is it?  any program worth a salt should compile on 64 bit
[00:55] <subman> Smackbook, the default was local host but what was it looking for?
[00:55] <leftyfb> blackshirt: thanks for giving me a link explaining what samba is. Unfortunately, thats not my issue and not a solution to the problem.
[00:55] <LeanMan> hey there anyone available to help?
[00:55] <PatrickC|Studyin> psusi: https://github.com/openwebos/build-desktop
[00:55] <Smackbook> subman: there is the actual daemon that does all the work, and the web thingie, the conection window (in the webui) lets you start and stop the daemon, if there was nothing listed in that window i dont know what to tell you, i'm no expert and it was a PITA to set up, but works really well since then
[00:55] <LeanMan> hello
[00:55] <daemon> Smackbook, tell me about it; I want a raise ;/
[00:55] <subman> Smackbook, yup, pita sounds about right.  Very poor docs as well.  Gave up.
[00:56] <phillllijw> I'm trying to configure my mouse buttons. Internet says to edit xorg.conf. Is this correct or are there new methods?
[00:56] <Smackbook> daemon: ;)
[00:56] <daemon> :)
[00:56] <Smackbook> psusi: is there a way to tell if my data is corrupted or if I could do a disk image copy to another drive?
[00:56] <sireangelus2_> use binary drivers
[00:56] <psusi> PatrickC|Studyin, says it supports 64bit
[00:56] <PatrickC|Studyin> psusi: whoa.. must be new
[00:56] <PatrickC|Studyin> hmm.. it supports 12.04 x64.. wonder about 12.10
[00:56] <psusi> Smackbook, your data is corrupted, you will need to restore from backup
[00:57] <slaptman> how would I install kompozer on Xubuntu 12.10?
[00:57] <subman> Smackbook, In the future, I would never recommend that to anyone.
[00:57] <LeanMan> help, I'm trying to login to Ubuntu on a usb bootable but for some reason it asks for a login
[00:57] <LeanMan> and I didn't setup any accounts - it doesn't make any sense
[00:57] <psusi> Smackbook, if you can mount it with another system and copy anything off, you are lucky
[00:57] <Smackbook> subman: i forgot how much work it was, and according psusi i'm about to get to do it all over again
[00:57] <Smackbook> psusi: i am booting off of it
[00:57] <LeanMan> help
[00:57] <Smackbook> and its running fine until i do certain things
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: Stop running from it. Boot from a LiveCD/USB.
[00:58] <psusi> Smackbook, if you don't have a recent backup, mount annother disk and try to copy off anything important
[00:58] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: Do you have backups of your data?
[00:58] <LeanMan> help
[00:58] <LeanMan> anyone?
[00:58] <LeanMan> :(
[00:58] <subman> Smackbook, good luck with that one!
[00:58] <blackshirt> hello leanman
[00:59] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: its a file server, all the data is on a raid array seperate from the OS drive.  so no, can you even backup the OS drive?
[00:59] <bazhang> !helpme | LeanMan
[00:59] <LeanMan> hey!
[00:59] <subman> Smackbook, but thanks for the other suggestions!
[00:59] <LeanMan> will do
[00:59] <Smackbook> subman: avoid rtorrent, try transmission
[00:59] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i cant get into GUI. can we proceed in text mode ?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: If all the data is on a separate array, then why not just trash the drive and re-install?
[01:00] <subman> Smackbook, I've had some success with rtorrent but never tried transmission
[01:00] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: No, the Desktop CD's installer needs to run in X.
[01:00] <LeanMan> blackshirt are you available?
[01:01] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: it said "please wait one minute for the display to refresh. i pressed on OK". I'm now presented with a screen that reads many things in brown, and say [OK]
[01:01] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: well I guess thats my only option but it took me a good month of struggling to get the mdadm set up and smartmon and scripts to email me on smart failures, and not to mention setting up the headless torrent thing subman is talking about, not to mention however many other things I'm not even remembering
[01:01] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Can you pastebin your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:01] <blackshirt> leanman,yes
[01:01] <Smackbook> not to mention other things I ironically mention ;p
[01:01] <leftyfb> blackshirt: do you have any useful help or information you can provide with regards to my issue?
[01:01] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: should I press Ctrl Alt something to have a GUI console ? :)
[01:01] <magn3ts> And it's true! Rhythombox Out of the box on a new install will still crash after every. single. FLAC file.
[01:02] <magn3ts> Nice to know that we can keep that bug for... 2 years+ now?
[01:02] <LeanMan> blackshirt: great!, well - its simple really I hope. I need to utilize Ubuntu on a USB bootable but for some reason I get a login screen
[01:02] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: i'm most concered about geting my mdadm working again
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: Not knowing how to rebuild your server in the case of a failure means that you didn't plan well. Keep that in mind for the future.
[01:02] <blackshirt> leftyb, sorry guys, i left out this channel while time, what the problem is?
[01:02] <magn3ts> But hey, at least I can't manually quit it... it only closes whenever I don't want it too!
[01:02] <LeanMan> blackshirt: how do I even login when no accounts were setup
[01:02] <minwinpc> How can I turn off the automatic log out?
[01:03] <blackshirt> leanman, can you more detail please,
[01:03] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 12.04 ... I copied my smb.conf from my 10.04 machine which was working just fine. Basically inside one of my shares I symlink to another location. It all worked before but now it doesn't
[01:03] <leftyfb> I can follow any other directory in my share, but can't even see the symlinks
[01:03] <Tdaug> What is the command for Workspace switcher?  Like, I want to create a custom shortcut for "super+s" which uses only one key, what command would I use?
[01:03] <leftyfb> please don't give me a link explaining what samba is
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: If you have another drive as large or larger than the failing one you can try to use GNU ddrescue (*not* the similarly named but much inferior dd_rescue) to image the drive.
[01:03] <blackshirt> leftyb, symlink for shares ?
[01:04] <leftyfb> within a share I made a symlink to a directory in a different directory ... it used to work on 10.04
[01:04] <dataholic> akasha: any update?
[01:04] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: well i try to take notes on the process but that doesn't mean it wont be a struggle the second time around.  and when you are fighting problems non stop by the time you try 9 things before something works it becomes a mess in your head.  And I JUST got it working smoothly and was starting to relax.  This is the first and maybe last time ill ever trust an SSD
[01:05] <blackshirt> leftyb, i try reconfigure your problem... Are you working on new fresh ubuntu system now
[01:05] <blackshirt> ?
[01:05] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328010/
[01:05] <LeanMan> blackshirt: I didn't do anything special, I just created a usb bootable, the first time ubuntu started up just fine. But after the 2nd time, ubuntu requests a login
[01:05] <Smackbook> Jordan_U: i have used ddrescue before i might try that, but thats why i was asking if my data was actually corrupted
[01:05] <leftyfb> blackshirt: as far as this troubleshooting is concerned, yes
[01:05] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: those are the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:05] <blackshirt> leanman, what are you trying to setup?
[01:06] <LeanMan> I just want to use the image burner software that comes prepacked in ubuntu
[01:06] <blackshirt> leanman, user ubuntu with blank password?
[01:06] <LeanMan> that doesn't work for some reason
[01:06] <dataholic> akasha: were is ungga?
[01:06] <LeanMan> I get a red symbol above the username box
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: If ddrescue recovers everything, then your data is probably safe (be sure to fsck after recovery). If it doesn' then there is a chance that some files will be corrupt.
[01:06] <psusi> Smackbook, you should have backups and a disaster recovery plan
[01:07] <AMDAthlon> if i upgrade my cpu from dual core to 8 core cpu will i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: What happens if you run "sudo service lightdm restart"?
[01:07] <psusi> AMDAthlon, no
[01:07] <Smackbook> psusi: can you even back up an OS drive?  how would you restore that?
[01:07] <akasha> dataholic: im still trying to learn ubu
[01:07] <blackshirt> leftyb, check the symlinks, is still there?
[01:07] <psusi> Smackbook, I prefer dump or tar
[01:07] <leftyfb> :/
[01:07] <AMDAthlon> & if i move my harddrive to another computer will ubuntu still boot?
[01:07] <leftyfb> blackshirt: of course it is
[01:07] <Snump> How can I get rid of Unity nd go back to a standard Gnome desktop on 12.10?
[01:07] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: im presented with a screen saying that i m running in low graphics modee. I select OK
[01:08] <Smackbook> psusi: ive never tried to back up the /, i mean how would that even work half the folders are virtual (proc...others)
[01:08] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great. Can you get to the normal Ubuntu desktop from there?
[01:08] <blackshirt> leftyb, some error for guide
[01:08] <psusi> Smackbook, I use LVM On my servers and have a cron job make a snapshot each night and dump it to a backup drive
[01:08] <leftyfb> blackshirt: huh?
[01:08] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U and then, it goes back to text mode, with some text on a black background. appended with [OK]
[01:09] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: it says: starting configure network device [OK] <CRLF> starting configure network device security [OK]
[01:09] <Smackbook> psusi: your OS is on LVM partition?
[01:09] <blackshirt> leftyb, if it doesn't work, i guess some error throwed to you
[01:09] <psusi> Smackbook, you only backup what's actually on the drive, you either explicitly exclude mount points like /sys, /dev, and /proc, or backup utilities have a switch to only backup the one mount point without descending into any others
[01:09] <psusi> Smackbook, yes
[01:09] <Smackbook> interesting
[01:09] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: the last line reads Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrupted block devices [OK]
[01:09] <Smackbook> man linux is a harsh mistress
[01:09] <Smackbook> ;)
[01:10] <psusi> Smackbook, also if it is an important server that you don't want going down, put it on a raid
[01:10] <Smackbook> psusi: fortunatly my important data is on raid
[01:10] <michealPW> Linux is a cuddly bear, Smackbook ;)
[01:10] <psusi> Linux is a broadword, you can hack down problems, or cut your foot off ;)
[01:10] <hthompson> does ubuntu have a mascot?  Like tux for linux?
[01:11] <blackshirt> human beings
[01:11] <xangua> !12.10 | hthompson
[01:11] <genii-around> hthompson: The "Circle of Friends"
[01:11] <Smackbook> hthompson: yeah a little funny circle thing with some half circles cut out
[01:11] <Smackbook> genii-around: is that what that thing is?
[01:11] <genii-around> Smackbook: Yes.
[01:11] <hthompson> Smackbook: that's logo not mascot!
[01:11] <Smackbook> i was just kidding
[01:11] <psusi> Smackbook, why did you put the OS on an SSD?
[01:12] <Smackbook> psusi: why not?  i thought by now they should be trustworthy, and make bootup faster etc
[01:12] <genii-around> hthompson: All Linux have the penguin for a mascot.
[01:12] <psusi> Smackbook, who cares about bootup on a server?  it's alway son
[01:12] <Smackbook> true
[01:12] <michealPW> hehe
[01:12] <bkfitz> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on new Lenovo X1 Carbon laptop:  I have a mini-display port to HDMI cable going into my 1080 LCD.  When I use Fn F7 to switch between 1. laptop only, 2. laptop and TV, and 3. TV only - 2 and 3 do show up on the TV, but the resolution seems to be slightly greater than 1920x1080 so I can't see my top and bottom bar, but only barely.  Any idea why my on-board graphics would be doing this?  Any workarounds to hard-code
[01:12] <bkfitz> the 1920x1080 resolution?  Help!
[01:12] <Smackbook> psusi: are SSDs considered less reliable?
[01:12] <hthompson> genii-around: oh ok.  They should do small variants of tux then.  I think it would be cool.  Like have tux with circle of friends tattoo
[01:13] <psusi> Smackbook, not neccesarily, but all drives fail
[01:13] <psusi> that's why you have backups
[01:13] <michealPW> Don't SSDs have a limited number of read/write cycles? I guess technically even mechanical drives have a limited number, taking into account wear/tear. Meh.
[01:13] <michealPW> Backup > *
[01:13] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: apologies for overclogging your bandwidth.. i m wondering - any recommendations ?
[01:14] <psusi> naw, regular drives don't really take wear and tear from read/write, more from turning on/off
[01:14] <leftyfb> useless, as usual
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, The basic rhetoric is ssd have as long a life as a disc drive.
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> now at least
[01:14] <michealPW> mm, so really it's best to just leave a PC running then? I mean, it seems like power on/off seems to kill everythign the most, esp. monitors..
[01:14] <Smackbook> so should I replace this with another SSD or not a regular drive?
[01:14] <psusi> wilee-nilee, depends... if you are doing a LOT of writes, can shorten it considerably
[01:14] <michealPW> HEH might aswell leave it all on. Sure cuts down on boot-time (rofl)
[01:15] <Ray2> If no moving parts in ssd why not longer
[01:15] <Guest35215> boa tarde estou tentando controlar o ubuntu 12.04 pelo smartphone  instalei o Gmote ele acha o meu IP, mas na hora de funcionar aparece a mensagem problemas de conexão, quando baixei o arquivo veio GmoteServerLinux2.0.0.tar.gz eu estrai a pasta e coloquei este arquivo para executar GmoteServer.sh, mas aparece uma mensagem de erro
[01:15] <Guest35215> There was an error running the gmote server. Please visit Http:/www.gmote.org/faq for more information unable to load library 'vlc': libvlc.so: Não é possível abrir arquivo de objetos compartilhados: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado.
[01:15] <Guest35215> e nada funciona.
[01:15] <Guest35215> Outra coisa que estou tentando fazer funcionar é o bluetooth, esta tudo instalado corretamente "acredito" mas quando coloco o adaptador usb ele até transfere um arquivo, mas logo em seguida trava o notebook e nada mais funciona tenho que desligar direto no botão e depois ligar de novo.
[01:15] <FloodBot1> Guest35215: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:15] <psusi> Smackbook, I don't see any reason to have the OS on an SSD in a server, especially one that isn't raided
[01:15] <blackshirt> leftyfb, you just tell useless as usual, it makes no sense for solving the problem
[01:15] <psusi> Smackbook, I usually use a 4 drive raid5 or raid10 and just put the whole thing on that
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> psusi, That is not necessarily true but if I had a ssd I would limit the writes, at least that is what some of the experts have said.
[01:16] <michealPW>  I was just thinking about buying a used server off eBay. I mean, you can get a rippin' little home server for backups (raid, redundancy for the win!) for like $200 hehe
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> seems like it should be though psusi
[01:16] <psusi> wilee-nilee, that's why they say it... the more writes, the faster it wears out...
[01:16] <Guest35215> alguém fala portuques
[01:16] <Smackbook> psusi: heh no room for that, i have 8 drives already in my case for my raidpool
[01:16] <Smackbook> not counting OS
[01:16] <psusi> Smackbook, so put the OS on those
[01:16] <michealPW> In a small, cool looking rack-mountable server case you can toss in your closet or something and have all your computers in your house dump backups to it
[01:16] <bkfitz> SSD's rock.  Period.  Let's talk about Ubuntu
[01:16] <michealPW> And you wont have to worry :P
[01:17] <Smackbook> and from what I had read when setting the server up OS on raid only like very recently became possible and is really tricky
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> psusi, I will agree to disagree, I have looked at this on the web a awhile back, the basic consensus is that a modern ssd can take as many as a disc HD. ;)
[01:17] <psusi> Smackbook, not really
[01:17] <psusi> wilee-nilee, for typical desktop usage, yes.. hence, why I said if you are writing to it A LOT
[01:17] <bkfitz> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on new Lenovo X1 Carbon laptop:  I have a mini-display port to HDMI cable going into my 1080 LCD.  When I use Fn F7 to switch between 1. laptop only, 2. laptop and TV, and 3. TV only - 2 and 3 do show up on the TV, but the resolution seems to be slightly greater than 1920x1080 so I can't see my top and bottom bar, but only barely.  Any idea why my on-board graphics would be doing this?  Any workarounds to hard-code
 the 1920x1080 resolution?  Help!
[01:18] <darth_damian_000> hello. i want to install a gnome shell weather extension so that i get the weather (with temperature displayed on the panel) for GNOME 3.6 on ubunto 12.10. Can anyone guide me?
[01:19] <michealPW> I"ve been thinking of putting my games on an SSD. Would that make any sense? Would it speed up the loading times, at least?
[01:19] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Can you pastebin the output of "startx"?
[01:19] <psusi> michealPW, if you got an ssd in a desktop, you want to put the whole OS on it really
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> psusi, I change computers about every 2 years and have been lucky to never have a disc fail, but I backup everything anyways.
[01:20] <michealPW> I guess it would be a terribly inefficient use of the limited SSD storage capacity, given that some of todays games are exceeding 8gb easily :\
[01:20] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: would you like me to kill its instances, before running it and exporting its output ?
[01:20] <michealPW> psusi: The OS, not the games? I primarily use that machine in particular for gaming, not much of anything else gets done with it.
[01:20] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes, but do so via "sudo service lightdm stop" so that it doesn't simply respawn.
[01:21] <psusi> michealPW, the whole thing
[01:21] <darth_damian_000> hello. i want to install a gnome shell weather extension so that i get the weather (with temperature displayed on the panel) for GNOME 3.6 on ubuntu 12.10. Can anyone guide me?
[01:21] <psusi> michealPW, I just use my big rotating drive for storing music and videos
[01:21] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i could re-write it all, but mainly it says : Fatal Server error: no screens found
[01:21] <michealPW> psusi: Ah, so preferably it would be best to have a Desktop machine with the entire thing using SSD exclusively for storage then?
[01:21] <michealPW> psusi: Ah, makes perfect sense. Interesting! :)
[01:21] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: is this info enough, or would you like me to pastebin it all (machine has no network, i ll have to retype it :) )
[01:22] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Why does the machine have no network access now when it did before?
[01:22] <eyastaifour> it did when we booted from the first time, right after the mini installation, when i was modifying the file to add the new entries
[01:23] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: upon restarting, we selected a new entry (try ubuntu). i never got through the GUI, so i never connected to the wireless network
[01:24] <michealPW> psusi: I'm still on the prowl for a USEFUL low-profile discrete graphics card for my machine... So far mostly what I can find ( Without importing from abroad :| ) are really crappy or stupidly expensive workstation cards hehe
[01:24] <Sean_> hello
[01:25] <nilexchaos> sean: Hello! How are you?
[01:25] <Sean_> Im doing great, how are you?
[01:25] <nilexchaos> Me too... So, what are you doing?
[01:25] <Sean_> perhaps you can help me
[01:25] <darth_damian_000> how do i install gnome common for gnome 3.6 ?
[01:26] <Sean_> So I have two hard drives, one with windows 7 and other I just installed ubuntu 12.10
[01:26] <Sean_> I installed it, I got to the last option and restarted
[01:26] <nilexchaos> Sean: Okay
[01:26] <Sean_> computer boots up and goes right into windows 7
[01:26] <Sean_> Im a bit lost on how to get into ubuntu
[01:26] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: can i add failsafeX to Grub ?
[01:26] <psusi> Sean_, you probably chose to install the boot loader to the other drive, but your computer boots from the windows drive
[01:27] <psusi> Sean_, go into your bios and tell it to boot from the other drive
[01:28] <Sean_> Im trying to have it so its dual boot, so when the computer turns I have the option for ubuntu or windows 7
[01:28] <M13> hello]
[01:28] <M13> hello*
[01:28] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Does the text in your terminal seem fairly large, or does does the terminal seem to be using the full resolution of the screen?
[01:28] <psusi> Sean_, yes... GRUB should present a menu offering which one you want to boot
[01:29] <psusi> Sean_, you either need to reinstall and tell it to install grub to the widows drive, or tell your bios to boot from the ubuntu drive... you could use the livecd to just reinstall grub, but it's probably easier to just reinstall the whole thing rather than explain how to do that
[01:30] <darth_damian_000> can anyone help me with gnome weather extension?
[01:30] <Sean_> ok
[01:30] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: terminal seems to be using the full resolution of the screen. text doesnt seem large
[01:31] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: OK. Do you know how to edit kernel parameters from the grub menu?
[01:31] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: yes - i just tried adding nomodeset
[01:31] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: it seems it's fixing it... not sure yet
[01:31] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: That was what I was going to suggest, did it work?
[01:31] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: yup :)
[01:31] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great :)
[01:32] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: but it didnt ask me to logon this time
[01:32] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: so, you mentioned we needed to do one more thing before starting the installation process ?
[01:32] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: That's because the normal automatic login didn't fail this time :)
[01:32] <darth_damian_000> how do i install gnome common ?
[01:32] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Yes. Please pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo losetup -a".
[01:34] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328054/
[01:35] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: And "sudo losetup -a"?
[01:35] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328056
[01:35] <franto> ciao
[01:35] <franto> \list
[01:36] <eyastaifour> i havent unmounted the windows part yet BTW
[01:36] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: i havent unmounted the windows partition yet.. was too busy workingon the gui :)
[01:36] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You wouldn't have been able to without first removing the loop device anyway :)
[01:36] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0
[01:37] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Then "sudo umount /isodevice/"
[01:37] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: yet
[01:37] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Then pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo losetup -a" again.
[01:38] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1328059
[01:38] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: Great. You should now be able to run the Ubuntu installer normally.
[01:39] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: (Just click on the install icon on the Desktop)
[01:41] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: you're a wizard. i don't have the words to express my gratitude for your patience and guidance
[01:42] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: how can i make a donation ?
[01:43] <Ray2> !cookies | jordon_u
[01:44] <gimpy19> Can anyone help without an Ubuntu 12.04+LXDE issue with a black background on EVERYTHING?  http://postimage.org/image/87nz056mf
[01:44] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: No donation needed. If you're around for the next release of Super GRUB2 Disk I might ask you to be a guinea pig though :)
[01:44] <gimpy19> This was working before installing nvidia-current.
[01:44] <crankharder> so, /etc/init.d/postgresql exists, and works, and that's great.  This other script expects /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2 to be present and +x, so I "ln -s /etc/init.d/postgresql /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2" - and now /etc/init.d/postgresql just flat out doesn't work, no messages, no starting/stopping of the server, exists 0... what gives?
[01:44] <keithclark> Is there a really easy beginners how to for transmission command line program?
[01:44] <gimpy19> crankharder: Your ln is backwards?
[01:45] <crankharder> keithclark: try, try again, try again, fail, repeat
[01:45] <crankharder> see, i'm retarded, my ln is backwards
[01:45] <crankharder> fml
[01:45] <eyastaifour> Jordan_U: I wouldn't mind :)
[01:45] <keithclark> crankharder, ???
[01:45] <eyastaifour> Thanks again! I'm forever grateful
[01:46] <crankharder> my ln is not backwrds
[01:46] <Jordan_U> eyastaifour: You're welcome :)
[01:46] <crankharder> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2 /etc/init.d/postgresql => ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/init.d/postgresql': File exists
[01:47] <crankharder> gimpy19: ^^ ?
[01:47] <keithclark> crankharder, ???
[01:47] <gimpy19> crankharder: You want the link to be '/etc/init.d/postgresql --> /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2', right?  Then that IS backwards!
[01:48] <OpenSorce> Shouldn't sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work in 9.10?
[01:48] <gimpy19> the link is /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.2.
[01:48] <xangua> !eol | OpenSorce
[01:50] <crankharder> gimpy19: https://gist.github.com/0d8fcf074c9f4a9c669e right, so, anyways, the link is in place... why don't either work now?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> gimpy19: In the ln command the first argument is the target and the second argument is the "link name" or that path where the link should be created, (with that link poining to the target specified as the first argument).
[01:51] <marcio> hey everyone
[01:52] <marcio> is anyone else running ubuntu on an acer aspire netbook?
[01:52] <marcio> i find that mines a bit slow with 12.10
[01:53] <Jordan_U> marcio: If you don't have proper hardware accellerated 3D then things will be *very* slow.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> marcio, I have a aceraspire d250 2 gigs ram it runs a bit slower then my dual core toshiba, bump the ram .
[01:54] <gimpy19> Jordan_U: Yea but it sounds like you created it bawkards to start with so now it won't allow you to over-werite it with the correct one.
[01:54] <gimpy19> s/you/that other person/
[01:54] <marcio> jordan wilee, you think the ram is all i need? im super new to ubuntu so i have no clue what it could be
[01:54] <marcio> i mean jordan + wilee
[01:54] <SnapSnap> I'd like Ubuntu 12.10 to display the date on the calendar in five digits. I.e., 02012. Any ideas how to go about this?
[01:58] <marcio> jordan, how do i get the proper hardware accelerated 3d?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> marcio: First, lets see if you are or aren't getting it already. Please pastebin the output of "glxinfo".
[02:00] <michealPW> glxinfo | grep direct
[02:00] <michealPW> It should say at the top either "Direct Rendering: Yes" or "Direct Rendering: No"
[02:00] <michealPW> No is bad ;)
[02:01] <marcio> it says glxinfo is not installed, forgive me im a real newbie to this
[02:01] <michealPW> No it's okay
[02:01] <SnapSnap> I'd like Ubuntu 12.10 to display the date on the calendar in five digits. I.e., 02012. Any ideas how to go about this?
[02:01] <drmundo> zsnes crashes on 12.10 for me :(
[02:02] <michealPW> marcio: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[02:02] <michealPW> That should give you the glxinfo utility
[02:02] <marcio> thanks im installing now
[02:02] <gimpy19> drmundo: What's the error?  What does stace say?
[02:02] <trism> SnapSnap: dconf-editor, com/canonical/indicator/datetime add a 0 in front of %Y in the custom format and switch the format to custom
[02:03] <marcio> im having a blast on ubuntu, i just feel like im 8 years old again and everythings new again, kind of exciting
[02:03] <gimpy19> s/stace/strace/
[02:03] <michealPW> hehe, don't feel bad. We were all there once :)
[02:03] <trism> SnapSnap: you'll have to fix it manually in ~8000 years
[02:04] <michealPW> Ubuntu has a great community, though. It's a great place to learn :)
[02:04] <marcio> okay after typing glxinfo into the terminal it spit a whole bunch of stuff at me, do you want to paste it all here?
[02:04] <marcio> michael i can see that!
[02:04] <michealPW> Nope, try this instead: glxinfo | grep direct
[02:04] <michealPW> That will shorten what it spits out at you. At the top it should say either "Direct Rendering: Yes" or Direct Rendering: No"
[02:04] <SnapSnap> trism, The value for custom-time-format is "%l:%M %p". Do I change it to "%l:%M %p 0%y" ?
[02:05] <marcio> it says direct rendering yes
[02:05] <trism> SnapSnap: oh yes, sorry I must has edited mine
[02:05] <chimney> test
[02:05] <chimney> someone reading me?
[02:05] <trism> SnapSnap: %Y though, otherwise you only get 2 digits
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> chimney, If you see your posts we all see you.
[02:06] <Jordan_U> michealPW: Just grepping for direct does *not* give you an accurate test any more. llvmpipe (which does software rendering) still produces "direct rendering: Yes".
[02:06] <gimpy19> michealPW: In what magic does 'Direct' match 'direct'?
[02:06] <SnapSnap> trusm, the value is now "%l:%M %p 0%Y". Still looks the same
[02:06] <trism> SnapSnap: you also have to change time-format to custom
[02:06] <Jordan_U> michealPW: And with Ubuntu 12.10 llvmpipe is the fallback, so you'll pretty much always get "Yes" for that test.
[02:07] <chimney> wilee-nilee: ok thanks
[02:07] <chimney> bue
[02:07] <marcio> so since it says direct rendering yes is there any way to speed this baby up or will i have to buy ram?
[02:07] <chimney> bye
[02:07] <raj> how can i check if I have nginx?
[02:07] <SnapSnap> trism, Now it displays the time and the date (02012), but I also had it displaying the day of the week, month, and date. The day, month, and date are gone.
[02:07] <michealPW> marcio: ok try glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[02:08] <trism> SnapSnap: you can add all those and more, see: man date; or man strftime
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> marcio, I would set the swappiness to 10. http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[02:09] <chadams> need some quick guidance, just installed ubuntu 12.10 from a USB stick like a CD - last time I tried it with the windows installer, graphics drivers caused it to stop working. I have an ASUS Radeon HD 6670. Has anyone had experience with ubuntu drivers for this card before?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> marcio: As I just explained to michealPW, the fact that it says Yes actually means nothing (it used to mean something in previous versions of Ubuntu).
[02:09] <SnapSnap> trism, thanks for your help
[02:10] <wols> chadams: your card should work out of the box. no work or special drivers necessary
[02:10] <chadams> wols: for 3d acceleration? braid was painfully slow when I tried it
[02:11] <gimpy19> Can anyone help without an Ubuntu 12.04+LXDE issue with a black background on EVERYTHING?  http://postimage.org/image/87nz056mf
[02:11] <marcio> ok i opened gl rendering, what is swappiness?
[02:12] <gimpy19> marcio: Kernel spappiness?  Google.  THere's TONS of info on it.
[02:12] <marcio> ok ty
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> marcio, Take a look at the link I gave you.
[02:13] <RedHate> i like lolly pops.
[02:14] <michealPW> Well, I should be going. Take care, everyone.
[02:14] <marcio> im doing it now, thanks a million wilee
[02:15] <tclay723> emacs
[02:17] <marcio> okay so im trying to change swappiness to 10 and i checked and its set to 60
[02:17] <marcio> i have to open /etc/sysctl.conf as root, how do i do that
[02:17] <dlam> i had a rackspace box get f'ed up such that I couldn't SSH into it, and had to restart it--  anyone know what log file to look at to figure out what ahppened?
[02:18] <psusi> marcio, why are you worried about swappiness?
[02:19] <marcio> i dont know, someone told me that it might speed up my pc
[02:19] <tomreyn> dlam: syslog, daemon.log
[02:19] <marcio> i literally know nothing about ubuntu and want my netbook running a bit faster
[02:19] <psusi> marcio, someone was most likely wrong
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> marcio, There is a app called startup applications, it needs to be loaded to see what runs at startup, you can turn off stuff you don't use like say bluetooth if your'e not using it etc, be careful here, the benefits are small but they are there.  sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[02:20] <tomreyn> dlam: and auth.log if you want to know who tried to authenticate
[02:20] <dlam> tomreyn: thx thx
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> that command will load the app, marcio
[02:20] <deemeetar> Hello, I have been having this problem for quite some time(11.04 till now). I have 12.04 and my wireless doesn't detect only my wireless network. Sometimes when my laptop shutdowns because of empty battery, when i restart it later i can't connect to my wireless. Till now i could resolve this with several disable - enable network repeats but this time i can't connect(nor find it) anyway. I'm connected from my phones tethering and looking for a solution.
[02:21] <marcio> thanks wilee, it wont paste into terminal, will i have to type all that manually?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> marcio,  sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[02:21] <psusi> marcio, how much ram do you have?
[02:21] <marcio> i have 512mb
[02:21] <psusi> outch...
[02:21] <psusi> that's one old system
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> time for lubuntu maybe
[02:22] <psusi> yea
[02:22] <psusi> cell phones have more ram than that these days
[02:22] <OpenSorce> Still not as old as mine... which btw I DID get working :-P
[02:22] <marcio> whats lubuntu?
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> marcio, I figured you had a gig, I would run lxde, or lubuntu if it were me.
[02:23] <psusi> an ubuntu remix with lower ram and gfx requirements
[02:23] <marcio> are those as user friendly as ubuntu 12:10?
[02:23] <psusi> it's pretty much a more stripped down desktop that does't use quite as much ram or 3d effects
[02:24] <M13> lubuntu is a lieghtweight ubuntu  distro
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> marcio, here is what it looks like, you can install it and run it or what you have now with a gear dropdown at the login line.
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[02:24] <M13> um does anyone know how to keep a progrma running in ubuntu vps
[02:25] <tomreyn> marcio: it's different, a bit less user-friendly maybe (but this is a subjective matter, personally i'd prefer it to unity), but things will be much faster
[02:25] <M13> ubuntu server (host1free vps)
[02:25] <marcio> okay, so which do you guys reccomend, lubuntu or lxde?
[02:25] <marcio> for a complete noob
[02:26] <tomreyn> M13: check the "nohup" command or GNU screen
[02:26] <marcio> also, i have been studying ubuntu manuals, will what i learn from there also apply to these distros?
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> marcio, They are pretty much the same I think lubuntu just has a few more apps.
[02:27] <psusi> what I would recommend is getting a laptop that isn't 8 years old ;)
[02:27] <lfactor> hey guys anyone know how to get windows installed and booting after i have ubuntu installed on an EUFI / GPT machine?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> you can install any apps needed, but you will have all the apps from unity already, I would probably go lxde, but others may difer here.
[02:28] <marcio> more apps than ubuntu? thats good right? lol
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> marcio, ^^^^^
[02:28] <psusi> lfactor, I would imagine by putting in the install cd and installing it
[02:28] <lfactor> alas that's not the case :) i end up with grub not being able to find an EFI image for win :)
[02:29] <geoffrey> bonjour
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> marcio, lxde and lubuntu just use some of the same basic apps, but different versions, for example leafpad as a text app rather then gedit.
[02:29] <psusi> lfactor, so you installed windows, got it booting, then tried to return control of the system to grub to dual boot and had problems?
[02:29] <marcio> do those distros also have the software center? thats pretty much how i got all my current apps
[02:30] <DrManhattan> what's a good lightweight ftp server for ubuntu
[02:30] <lfactor> psusi: no, windows did not boot at all
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> marcio, You would still have the software center it probably is in lxde, if installed in ubuntu, but you have it already it will not be removed.
[02:31] <psusi> lfactor, after installing windows, it should replace grub
[02:31] <lfactor> psusi: i.e it didn't overwrite the MBR, or write and EFI
[02:31] <Jordan_U> marcio: Lubuntu doesn't come with Ubuntu Software Center by default because it's such a resouce intensive app, but you can install it yourself (along with any other software that you would install in any other flavor, they all use the same repositories).
[02:31] <psusi> lfactor, you have the 64 bit version of windows?
[02:32] <marcio> so to install lxde or lubuntu would i have to make a bootable usb like i did for ubuntu and install from scratch?
[02:32] <ASHER1> Hey
[02:32] <ASHER1> i need please about something i try to configure
[02:33] <psusi> marcio, you can, or you can just install the lubuntu-desktop package, log out, and log in using lxde
[02:33] <ASHER1> i configure something project and i have problem with STL
[02:33] <ASHER1> what i need to fix this?
[02:33] <raymondjtoth> any good short wave chat on here in freenode
[02:33] <FroMaster> New to ubuntu and wondering where i should put a new apache vhost... I'd usually put it in /var/www/<vhostdir> but ubuntu has a default site set to /var/www/  . What's the recommended location to put vhosts dirs?
[02:33] <psusi> ASHER1, -ETOOVAGUE
[02:34] <marcio> psusi, how do i do that?
[02:34] <ASHER1> what is this?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> marcio, Some of us will have several desktops, I do as I like the gnome-shell more then unity, so I just install the shell on a regular ubuntu install that has unity. There is a website as well that has the complete package lists for the 4 main desktops used with ubuntu, so if you wanted you can remove a extra desktop if you wanted.
[02:34] <lfactor> psusi: umm, embarrasingly i'm unsure
[02:34] <ASHER1> psusi
[02:34] <ASHER1> what is this?
[02:34] <psusi> lfactor, afaik, MS only supports EFI with the 64 bit windows
[02:34] <lfactor> psusi: i downloaded the win8 iso from microsoft, didn't see an option for 32/64
[02:34] <dcvl> is there a good place to to go to begin learning commands for ubuntu/linux?   I'm experienced in command line with Cisco devices but brand new to linux. Figured I'd give it a try. Long time windows user
[02:34] <lfactor> psusi: running 64 ubuntu :)
[02:34] <psusi> ASHER1, your question is too vague to be answered
[02:35] <deemeetar> Can anyone help me with this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12334129#post12334129
[02:35] <ASHER1> i say i have problem with configure and i need install STL
[02:35] <psusi> marcio, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <xangua> !here | deemeetar
[02:36] <FroMaster> New to ubuntu and wondering where i should put a new apache vhost... I'd usually put it in /var/www/<vhostdir> but ubuntu has the default site set to /var/www/  . What's the recommended location to put vhosts dirs?
[02:36] <ASHER1> someone can please help me about this
[02:36] <ASHER1> checking for STL support... no
[02:36] <ASHER1> configure: error: Sorry, you need STL support with your compiler
[02:37] <psusi> FroMaster, wherever you want
[02:37] <geekmind> hello!
[02:37] <lfactor> psusi: i'll attempt to see if i can find out what's going on re 64 bit :) cheers
[02:37] <psusi> ASHER1, you probably need to install g++
[02:37] <geekmind> I can't start my sesion!
[02:37] <FroMaster> psusi: there's not a ubuntu convention i should adhere to?
[02:37] <ASHER1> but i have g++
[02:38] <geekmind> I think the disk is not mounted as RW, only as R
[02:38] <psusi> FroMaster, no
[02:38] <geekmind> but I don't know what to do!
[02:38] <deemeetar> xangua: Basicaly, i can't connect to my own wireless network since 11.04(now have 12.04) . Other networks work just fine ... Sometimes after my laptop shutdowns from battery power, or the rooter restarts because of electricity ... or any other forceful disconect, my laptop cannot find my wireless. I've been fixing this with Disable Network - Enable network but today i can't ... I have BCM43225 network with proprietary drivers.
[02:38] <marcio> psusi thanks a million, im installing it
[02:39] <ASHER1> psusi
[02:39] <ASHER1> i have g++
[02:39] <ASHER1> and i run something project in ubuntu 12.04
[02:39] <psusi> geekmind, figure out why it is mounted read only... you might check dmesg or /var/log/syslog for errors, or the disk utility for the disk SMART status
[02:40] <svm_invictvs> Is it possible to do a dry-run of uninstalling a package so you can see what it will affect?
[02:40] <geekmind> psusi: I can't do anything because I can't even mount the fs in safe mode
[02:40] <psusi> geekmind, you said it was mounted read only
[02:40] <geekmind> yes, I guess that
[02:40] <geekmind> because I can get to GDM, but I can't login
[02:40] <psusi> well, which is it?
[02:41] <geekmind> and if I enter in safe mode, I can't mount the fs
[02:41] <geekmind> and if I enter to TTY1, I can't login either
[02:41] <psusi> if you boot, it's already mounted
[02:41] <marcio> psusi, so is what i am currently doing installing a new os from my current os? does that mean my pc will dual boot?
[02:41] <psusi> boot into rescue mode, choose root shell, and check dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[02:41] <geekmind> psusi: well, what can I do then?
[02:42] <geekmind> I tried that already
[02:42] <psusi> marcio, if you install windows, it will take over the system... you used to have to reinstall grub to get it back in control and be able to choose to boot Ubuntu, but if you are using UEFI, you should be able to just go into the bios and choose to boot Ubuntu
[02:42] <rickbol> deemeetar: what wifi card do you have?
[02:42] <geekmind> and I can't read that because the FS is not mounted
[02:42] <deemeetar> rickbol: BCM43225
[02:43] <psusi> geekmind, if it wasn't mounted you wouldn't even get a shell
[02:43] <ven> What's new in Ubuntu mesh networking?
[02:43] <deemeetar> rickbol: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4357] (rev 01)
[02:43] <geekmind> psusi: I don't know what's going on, but that's what I see when I try to get to the root shell
[02:43] <marcio> im confused, so ill still have ubuntu, im just installing another os on the same partition?
[02:44] <rickbol> I just git a bcm4322, but I haven't tried it yet. It is replacing a bcm4311 (in a Dell D630) which suffered some of the symptoms you describe under heavy load.
[02:45] <devart> could anyone steer me in the right direction here please: the problem i have is not easily replicated and tends to just happen mysteriously. every now and again, doesnt matter the activity i am doing, the ubuntu 11.10 i am running tends to just lock up and hang. no keyboard response and no mouse, no ctrl+alt+del or alt+f#
[02:45] <rickbol> I also tried an intel 4965, but it suffered regression bugs as well.
[02:46] <devart> i know there are log files i need to look into, but i dont know what im looking for... ^.^
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> marcio, If you are installing like lxde or lubuntu in ubuntu it is just another desktop environment
[02:47] <rickbol> deemeetar: the bcm4311 failed under heavy load (I'm currently typing using it now). I have an HP Mini that had a bcm4322, and it seems to work fine, so I thought I'd try one of those in this Dell D630
[02:47] <psusi> geekmind, what is what you see?
[02:47] <TheLordOfTime> noone4, please don't be trying to initiate DCC with everyone, that's a bad practice.
[02:48] <deemeetar> rickbol: well i don't have problems when connected... only like this.. I download large files with constant speed of 20Mbit/s over night and no problem at all. Just like this... can't find my network .. and this time i can't really fix it. The only solution to me it seems is to boot into windows :(
[02:49] <deemeetar> And the sad part is i need internet for studying cause my midterm is tomorrow and i spent 3 hours trying to connect :9
[02:49] <marcio> wilee thanks! so its done installing now, if i restart will it automatically boot to lubuntu?
[02:50] <geekmind> psusi: if I try anything from the failsafe mode, I get the following message (similar): "Ubuntu needs to remount the system as R/W. Continue?" and I press "Yes". After a while, I get this error: "Can't mount the filesystem as read/write"
[02:51] <rolling><PHONE_NUMBER>535603	 01/15	 815 	katarina matovic 	ADDRESS 	CITY	 state	 zip code	 PORTUGAL
[02:51] <rolling> o.o
[02:51] <rolling> love it or hate it
[02:51] <tomreyn> devart: /var/log/kern.log* /var/log/dmesg* (older files are gzip compressed, use zcat  to operate on them
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> marcio, At the login window you will see a gear next to the login line that is a drop down for choosing the desktop you want to run.
[02:51] <rolling><PHONE_NUMBER>535603	 01/15	 815 	katarina matovic 	ADDRESS 	CITY	 state	 zip code	 PORTUGAL
[02:51] <rickbol> deemeetar: I'm no expert in wifi\AP negotiation etc, but i fairly decent amount is probably logged in dmesg
[02:52] <tomreyn> rolling: please keep it on topic
[02:52] <devart> tomreyn: ahah! thanks bud, i saw those compressed logs, but cat gave me garble :D thank you again
[02:52]  * rolling slaps tomreyn around a bit with a large trout
[02:52] <rolling><PHONE_NUMBER>535603	 01/15	 815 	katarina matovic 	ADDRESS 	CITY	 state	 zip code	 PORTUGAL
[02:52] <tomreyn> !op rolling
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> !ops | rolling
[02:53] <bobbyj> geekmind did you try running mount -o remount,rw / at the command line in safemode?
[02:54] <psusi> geekmind, choose the root shell option, and it sounds like your disk is fubar... you should try booting from the livecd and checking it
[02:54] <geekmind> nope
[02:54] <geekmind> I'll try that, bobbyj
[02:54] <deemeetar> rickbol: How can i see messages relative to my networking with dmesg?
[02:55] <geekmind> psusi, bobbyj, I'll reboot to test if it works.  I got the old transmeta proc tablet working
[03:02] <Guest60523> admin
[03:02] <marcio> wowww i like this lubuntu! thanks a million guys!
[03:04] <tomreyn> :) enjoy marcio. and still consider buying more RAM (replace your memory chip) or a new computer.
[03:04] <OpenSorce> marcio,  lubuntu is pretty nice
[03:04] <rickbol> deemeetar: what, if anything, is returned for: "lsmod | grep mac802"
[03:04] <marcio> man you guys are so awesome, putting up with a noob like me
[03:04] <marcio> it is!
[03:04] <marcio> tomreyn i think i will get some more
[03:05] <marcio> is there a way in lubuntu to have just a normal background without any icons and just a normal wallpaper?
[03:05] <tomreyn> marcio: in the meantime you could try this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRam
[03:05] <Dranemra> Allo.. I have an odd question about Flash & Ubuntu
[03:05] <IAS> im ready for black ops two
[03:06] <deemeetar> rickbol: Nothing is retturned.
[03:06] <nathaneltitane> does anyone know the command used to fade the screen to black before enabling the screen saver mode??
[03:06] <rickbol> deemeetar:  what OS are you running?
[03:06] <Dranemra> I can't get rid of the Adobe Flash Player Settings box in Chromium or Firefox
[03:07] <IAS> lets face it guys
[03:07] <deemeetar> rickbol: elementary os luna ... which is based of ubuntu 12.04(basicaly reskinned ubuntu)
[03:07] <IAS> theres no PC anymore
[03:07] <marcio> tomreyn, i read the article, so is this zram an app?
[03:07] <IAS> MC is the new word.
[03:07] <deemeetar> rickbol: but had the same problem on ubuntu 12.04 11.10 11.04
[03:08] <IAS> UEFI mothers
[03:08] <tomreyn> marcio: the package to install is zram-config
[03:08] <tomreyn> marcio: available since ubuntu 12.04
[03:08] <IAS> means u cant install ubuntu on ur personal new pc or laptop
[03:08] <IAS> u wanna know why?
[03:08] <nathaneltitane> does anyone know the command used to fade the screen to black before enabling the screen saver mode??
[03:09] <IAS> new win 8 system come with uefi
[03:09] <IAS> that means no bios and no dvd/rw boot.
[03:09] <marcio> tomreyn i forget the command to install, like i mentioned, mega noob lol
[03:09] <svm_invictvs> !ppl
[03:09] <IAS> suck on that fellas
[03:09] <svm_invictvs> bah
[03:10] <deemeetar> marcio: apt-get
[03:10] <tomreyn> marcio: sudo apt-get install zram-config
[03:10] <svm_invictvs> !ppa
[03:11] <IAS> my guess is this chan will be gone a year from now
[03:11] <marcio> heres another question, when i run these install commands, where am i downloading and installing these apps from? is there like a central ubuntu server servicing all these apps?
[03:11] <brzJunior> Hi, how do i clean "search and replace" historic in GEDIT on Ubuntu
[03:11] <brzJunior> ?
[03:12] <IAS> PC is now MC bitches!
[03:12] <[TiZ]> I'm sure HDMI issues are super common, but I've got one. I'm on a laptop with intel graphics, don't have any audio over HDMI. PulseAudio recognizes that there is an HDMI device. It's not muted according to the dialog. So, what do I do?
[03:12] <tomreyn> IAS: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:12] <IAS> tomreyn: lol
[03:12] <tomreyn> this is not a discussion but a support channel
[03:13] <IAS> off topic what?
[03:14] <IAS> the geek society is already screweed and u guys are still cheering
[03:15] <rypervenche> IAS: The fact that you have to come here to tell us that says otherwise.  We're trying to get stuff done.
[03:16] <IAS> sure. slowly die instead.
[03:16] <IAS> the fact.
[03:16] <[TiZ]> I kind of want to see the logs to see what he was ranting about, lol. But that's neither here nor there...what is here is hdmi audio.
[03:16] <phillijw> Can anyone please help me get my mouse configured? Do I have to have an xorg.conf or is that the old way of doing it?
[03:17] <phillijw> [TiZ]: I know, I just tried to scroll up on my mouse before remembering why I was here... scroll isn't working
[03:17] <[TiZ]> What are some known fixes regarding audio over HDMI?
[03:19] <graingert> phillijw: do you have an xorg.conf ?
[03:19] <tomreyn> phillijw: normally you shouldn't need to edit xorg.conf, i've never heard fof this being neccessary in the past years.
[03:19] <graingert> phillijw: and what's your mouse?
[03:19] <phillijw> graingert: no, not yet. I was hoping to avoid having to shut everything down to get one though
[03:19] <tomreyn> (not to make basic mouse functions work, that is)
[03:19] <graingert> phillijw: you can killx and start it again
[03:19] <phillijw> My mouse is a Logitech mx510 which requires some fancy button mappings
[03:20] <graingert> phillijw: and you might be able to xmove all your windows to an xvfb
[03:21] <[TiZ]> Attempting to play audio over the correct plughw device for my HDMI results in... nothing. There are no errors, but there is also no sound.
[03:21] <graingert> phillijw: then xmove them back again
[03:21] <skpl113> can someone help me? i am trying to use unetbootin to install ubuntu from a usb drive but i get the following: error: no such partition, must load kernel first
[03:23] <tomreyn> phillijw: are you saying the scroll wheel or scroll buttons are not working?
[03:24] <phillijw> tomreyn: precisely. I just need to set up my mouse. I'm assuming xorg.conf is still the proper way to do it but I know xorg has changed a bit recently so I wasn't sure
[03:24] <tomreyn> phillijw: i was hoping for you to answer one or the other, scroll wheel OR scroll buttons do not work.
[03:25] <tomreyn> phillijw: which ubuntu version are you on?
[03:26] <phillijw> tomreyn: well scrolling was working until I tried to get the other buttons to work. 12.10
[03:27] <tomreyn> phillijw: i guess you do need to edit xorg.conf - try this (written for 11.10, but i guess it still works) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1959110
[03:27] <skpl113> can someone help me? i am trying to use unetbootin to install ubuntu from a usb drive but i get the following: error: no such partition, must load kernel first
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> skpl113, So what was the usb formatted as?
[03:28] <wolfman2000> Evening. I wish to have a way so that when I run a program with arguments, that that program and argument combination cannot have a second instance while the first instance exists. I would like this to apply no matter how many people are logged in to that user at the time (including duplicate login/terminal shells). Is there a clean way to do this?
[03:28] <tomreyn> phillijw: more but older docs here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX510Mouse
[03:28] <phillijw> alright, well I guess I'll need to close down my windows so I can get an xorg.conf
[03:28] <anon9002> Anyone knows how to partition a 4K sector HDD with BusyBox fdisk?
[03:28] <phillijw> so i'll be back, eventually
[03:29] <tomreyn> phillijw: you cnan edit it now, just need to restart to apply
[03:29] <tomreyn> restart X, that is
[03:29] <phillijw> I don't have one to edit though :)
[03:29] <skpl113> wilee-nilee: it was formated as fat32 but i couldnt mount it that way as the mount command said no such filesystem, i just reformatted it as ntfs, will mount recognize it?
[03:30] <phillijw> I have to run X -configure it looks like
[03:30] <tomreyn> phillijw: you can just create one
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> skpl113, What OS are you doing this in?
[03:30] <phillijw> tomreyn: how
[03:31] <tomreyn> phillijw: using the text editor of your choice
[03:31] <sid|1> what are the chances of GRUB braking if i repartition to the left
[03:31] <phillijw> tomreyn: won't I be missing key pieces of it?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, To the left?
[03:31] <sid|1> ya
[03:31] <phillijw> I certainly do not have the xorg syntax memorized or anything
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> sid|1,The ?  is what do you mean
[03:32] <skpl113> wilee-nilee: ubuntu 10.4
[03:32] <sid|1> ok so some time ago i was trying to repartition
[03:32] <sid|1> make my win8 partition smaller
[03:32] <sid|1> and make my linux partition bigger
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> skpl113, Just unplug it and plug it in you want a fat32
[03:33] <sid|1> so i had to shrink win8's partition to the left and expand linux's partition to the left
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, To the left could mean several things can you be exact.
[03:33] <sid|1> and when i tryed to do that it said GRUB might
[03:33] <sid|1> hrm lemme find an example
[03:34] <phillijw> The example I'm reading for setting up an xorg.conf is telling me to run X -configure using a root terminal. I obviously can only use sudo.... is that what I need to do?
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, Ah I see now, that should not be a problem other then having to reload the mbr to boot sometimes.
[03:34] <sid|1> heres hat i was trying to do
[03:34] <skpl113> wilee-nilee: ubuntu 10.4.4 is what im trying to install, the os i'm in is crunchbang
[03:34] <sid|1> https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home/Public
[03:34] <sid|1> oops
[03:35] <sid|1> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29235534/20120922_165906.jpg
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> skpl113, WE can't help with crunchbang, but I would just upnplu it and plug it in to mount it normally, if crunch will do that.
[03:36] <sid|1> wilee-nilee:  did you see the pic?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, You want to run those separately, gparted may resize and you will have overlapping partitons that is not good.
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, never load up gparted like that
[03:37] <sid|1> so do them seperately
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, Yes sir!
[03:38] <sid|1> what do you mean never load gparted up like that?
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, gparted may not resize exactly when you do that many, with loading up I mean have so many things run one after another.
[03:39] <sid|1> so do them step by step
[03:39] <sid|1> so resize windows first
[03:39] <sid|1> then reboot
[03:39] <sid|1> and resize linux?
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, No reboot needed, it iks just haveing partitions move up against each other like that is asking for trouble consecutively
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> is*
[03:40] <sid|1> oh ok ty
[03:40] <sid|1> will do soon
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, If any of those are W7 I would use its disk manager to do it. Much faster and safer, use gparted for thr linux
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> the*
[03:42] <sid|1> i have win 8
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, same thing with W8 let it resize itself
[03:42] <sid|1> and isnt disk manger IN win8
[03:42] <sid|1> so i would have to go into windows to open the app
[03:43] <sid|1> causing the hdd to be mounted
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, I'm not sure I would assume it has a disk manager in the admin account, I have a clone of it I had the release installed but it crashed a couple of times I can't have that while writing grad papers.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, Windows has a virtual partitoner since at least W7, it is fast and safe, yes it runs while mounted
[03:45] <sid|1> wilee-nilee:  ive had bad experiences while using disk manager in win8
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> sid|1, THen do what you think feels right, personally I use gparted to make all my partitions before I install, with windows this leaves out the boot partition, which I don't want myself.
[03:47] <phillllijw> How the heck do I boot into recovery mode? I hit shift a million times when booting up
[03:47] <phillllijw> Do I even have grub?
[03:47] <marcio> hi friends im back, i have a quick question, how can i find out what version of lubuntu i am currently running?
[03:48] <phillllijw> marcio, top right corner of the screen has a power icon with an "about" button in it
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> phillllijw, Did ou change the time out in grub
[03:48] <phillllijw> wilee-nilee, what?
[03:48] <phillllijw> wilee-nilee, no, it's basically a fresh install
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> phillllijw, so if you do nothing on powering on what happens?
[03:49] <phillllijw> wilee-nilee, it boots into the login screen
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> phillllijw, Of what
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> some dual boot is why I ask
[03:49] <phillllijw> wilee-nilee, Just ask if I dual boot man... its the ubuntu login screen
[03:49] <marcio> excellent! thanks! and how do i change my desktop in lubuntu? i want a plain wallpaper with no icons but all i have is icons
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> phillllijw, Welcome to my ignore, I'm not keen of irritants.
[03:51]  * phillllijw cries
[03:51] <blackshirt> wilee-nilee, something bad to talk to others
[03:52] <marcio> wilee i told you i was new, i apologized 100 times for all my questions
[03:52] <marcio> and i kept thanking all of you who helped me
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> marcio, I was only talking to the user who snapped at me, it gets tiresome.
[03:52] <phillllijw> <---
[03:53] <marcio> oh goodness i thought i was the irritant :\
[03:53] <marcio> so do you guys know of any way to change the background on lubuntu 12.10?
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> I don't care about being thanked, just some holier the though when being helped is a big red flag
[03:53] <phillllijw> Is this page updated for 12.10? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> then*
[03:57] <psusi> phillllijw, you hold down shift to get the grub menu if it is normally hidden
[03:57] <phillllijw> psusi, hold down? Hmm... that page says to "press" -- might be misleading
[03:58] <phillllijw> i'll give her a shot
[03:58] <phillllijw> that didn't work
[03:58] <marcio> all the screenshots i see for lubuntu show it with a clean desktop whereas mine is all icons, any ideas on how to change it? i already looking through look and feel and desktop settings, no dice
[03:59] <phillllijw> oh... I have to do it before the bios finishes loading
[03:59] <phillllijw> interesting
[04:00] <psusi> phillllijw, you have to do it once the bios hands off to grub
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> marcio, here is a background link, I will look for the reonve icons link next
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68742/how-do-i-change-my-wallpaper
[04:00] <psusi> you can also just repeatedly tap on the arrow keys to scroll the menu up/down
[04:02] <phillllijw> awesome. Got to the root shell prompt. Bingo
[04:02] <marcio> wilee i already saw that, i googled it too, but it doesnt change my actual desktop which has icons everywhere
[04:03] <marcio> i changed my wallpaper but it wont display
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> marcio, post 4 here kind of gives you the lowdown on gui's and lubuntu. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1875024
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> marcio, Some things have to be done from text files, so you want to search on the web with exact dicriptions to find the info sometimes, it is a great desktop for someone in your position, but a little tricky to understand, and lower on the support as well. There is a #lubuntu channel but it has like 60 people there.
[04:08] <marcio> hmm yeah the guy in that thread is asking what im asking but neither of the solutions are working
[04:08] <marcio> perhaps its a 12.10 thing?
[04:09] <Guest56826> i'm  trying to install  drver  for  my DVB-S2 and its dosent wor
[04:09] <FroMaster> Any pointers on installing Wordpress on 12.10? Looks like things changed from 12.04 and not all the docs/scripts got updated
[04:09] <Guest56826> driver**
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> marcio, could be I haven't used lubuntu much, but found it fairly easy to work with, but I have been using linux for awhile.
[04:11] <marcio> like all the screenshots i see have clean empty desktops and thats what i want, m
[04:11] <marcio> my eesktop looks like a PDA from 1990
[04:11] <psusi> wilee-nilee, your name isn't Willie Nial is it?
[04:11] <juniour> hi
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> psusi, Hehe is that a real person?
[04:11] <psusi> wilee-nilee, yea, if I remember correctly
[04:11] <juniour> hi how can i change the position of icon in launcher
[04:12] <Guest56826> hello
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> psusi, Nope it is not me, my real name is not attched to this nick.
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> attached*
[04:12] <juniour> hi how can i change the position of icon in launcher
[04:13] <Guest56826> anyone  can help in drivers Issu
[04:13] <Guest56826> ?
[04:13] <phillllijw> when I run "X -configure" I get fatal server error: Could not create lock file in /tmp/.tXO-lock
[04:14] <phillllijw> lightdm is not running so when I try to stop it, it can't find anything to stop
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> juniour, In unity you can click ands hold some icons and drag them off the left panel and reposition them.
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> and*
[04:15] <_DanN_> phillllijw: permission problem ?
[04:15] <phillllijw> _DanN_, I'm root
[04:15] <_DanN_> phillllijw: I assume your /tmp exists ... ?
[04:16] <phillllijw> _DanN_, yeah it appears so
[04:16] <juniour> got it thanks
[04:16] <_DanN_> phillllijw: can you paste whole output to /query ?
[04:17] <phillllijw> _DanN_, I can type it... I'm on a 2nd machine :)
[04:17] <_DanN_> phillllijw: hehe ... just read through whole output and try to find something meaningful
[04:17] <BabySuperman> I can't seem to get my server to accept more files, I get "Too many open files" even though I've added limits to /etc/security/limits.conf and added the session thing to pam blah blah.... What else could I be doing wrong?! -- I reset my server and ulimit -a says im back at 1024 max files....  i added * - nofile 65536
[04:18] <juniour> i got recycle bin named folder in my drive its a virus how to remove it
[04:18] <juniour> i delete but i came aftera while
[04:18] <Guest56826> hello
[04:18] <Guest56826> anyone free to help  ?
[04:19] <_DanN_> Guest56826: what's your question ?
[04:19] <phillllijw> _DanN_, http://pastebin.com/7GbfmF3b
[04:19] <Guest56826> about
[04:19] <Guest56826> Driver
[04:19] <Guest56826> DVB-S2
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> juniour, What are you running, there are no virus's on the web for linux basically.
[04:20] <_DanN_> phillllijw: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? anything in there ?
[04:20] <_DanN_> Guest56826: type your question
[04:20] <_DanN_> Guest56826: you won't get any person assigned ;)
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> juniour, Rootkits are about it.
[04:20] <marcio> i just installed ubuntu tweak, maybe that will help me, how do i actually run the program? i cant find it on the desktop or the start menu
[04:21] <Guest56826> when i'm opem  me tv  its telling  me  "There are no DVB devices available"
[04:21] <juniour> wille-nilee virus is a set of instruction i tcan be any where
[04:21] <Guest56826> I'm  just  dont know  how to post my question
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> juniour, Hehe I know what a virus is, there are none on the web that will run in linux.
[04:22] <_DanN_> Guest56826: how about type of the device, pastebin for dmesg or /var/log/syslog etc ?
[04:22] <_DanN_> Guest56826: just SOMETHING ;)
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> you can carry them though and infect a OS that will juniour
[04:23] <juniour> mmay be
[04:23] <juniour> i got from form windows
[04:24] <juniour> wilee-nilee Linux malware includes viruses, trojans, worms and other types of malware that affect the Linux operating system. Linux, Unix and other Unix-like computer operating systems are generally regarded as very well-protected, but not immune, from computer viruses.
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> juniour, I will agree to disagree. ;)
[04:25] <phillllijw> _DanN_, looks fine to me for the most part... last line says Server terminated successfully
[04:25] <juniour> wilee-nilee it is protected as virus didnt get the root access
[04:25] <Guest56826> http://pastebin.com/2rPRvj3w
[04:25] <_DanN_> phillllijw: any [EE] lines ?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> juniour, It is not whether it can happen, it is that there are none know to be on the web, you mentioned a virus I commented on a virus.
[04:25] <overclucker> juniour: there's no way for a windows virus to infect linux.
[04:26] <juniour> yep agree
[04:26] <phillllijw> _DanN_, can you remind me how to grep for (EE)
[04:26] <_DanN_> phillllijw: grep "(EE)" /var/log/X...log
[04:27] <juniour> wilee-nilee you know about $recycle.bin virus
[04:27] <juniour> i know its fo windows
[04:27] <Guest56826> _DanN_ you go it  ?
[04:27] <_DanN_> Guest56826: what ?
[04:27] <phillllijw> _DanN_, 2 messages (both saying same thing): (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[04:28] <Guest56826> http://pastebin.com/5xfiMNGZ
[04:28] <jens_> hi
[04:28] <_DanN_> phillllijw: then there is a problem .. failing to load a module is causing server to crash
[04:28] <OerHeks> juniour, where did you find this recycle.bin, on a NTFS partition?
[04:28] <_DanN_> phillllijw: ati - I don't like them ;)
[04:29] <juniour> OerrHerks yep
[04:29] <phillllijw> _DanN_, I don't either... hand-me-down computer :)
[04:29] <OerHeks> juniour, then it is not a virus, just a sytem folder.
[04:29] <juniour> OerHeks I have dual boot of win and ubuntu
[04:29] <juniour> no it not in C drive
[04:30] <Guest56826> http://pastebin.com/5xfiMNGZ               " its the  dmesg output "
[04:30] <juniour> ya i know its a system folder it is in c drive but
[04:30] <juniour> it is in another drive
[04:30] <juniour> its in D
[04:30] <OerHeks> juniour, any ntfs partition has it, solved.
[04:31] <juniour> kkkk
[04:31] <_DanN_> Guest56826: well it's telling you : cx88[0]: Your board isn't known (yet) to the driver.  ....
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> I gots one in my D oh no.
[04:32] <Guest56826> yes
[04:32] <FroMaster> What the proper way to execute '/usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/setup-mysql.gz' as the docs say 'sudo bash /usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/setup-mysql' but the latest package has it as .gz
[04:32] <_DanN_> Guest56826: have you tried whatever is written there ?
[04:32] <Guest56826> i want  to  choose  on  on the  listed
[04:32] <Guest56826> but  its  wont  let  me
[04:32] <Guest56826> how  to   force  it
[04:32] <Guest56826> ?
[04:33] <_DanN_> Guest56826: kernel parameter ... this is what this thing is asking for
[04:34] <Guest56826> I'm  use  insmod card=86
[04:34] <Guest56826> insmod: can't read 'card=86': No such file or directory
[04:35] <_DanN_> Guest56826: ;-) man insmod as a 1st step
[04:35] <_DanN_> Guest56826: insmod <module_name> <params>
[04:36] <Guest56826> i  dont  know  what the  module name
[04:36] <Guest56826> I'm  new Linux  user
[04:36] <jameyhazey1> hello, is this the place to ask for help with issues after a ubuntu install?
[04:37] <KindOne> Yes.
[04:38] <jameyhazey1> cool.
[04:38] <jameyhazey1> I have an old dell latitude d610 that I've just installed ubuntu 12.10 onto, and now unfortunately it will not complete booting up. The screen flashes purple but then fades out and dies. I'm fairly sure there is an issue with graphics drivers, as I had to turn on "nomodeset" in the options when installing off a DVD to see the installer, but I'm very new to linux and don't know terribly much at all apart from what I've read on th
[04:38] <john77> hello everyone
[04:39] <john77> looking for advice regarding startup disk creator
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> jameyhazey1, You can use nomodeset in the kernel stanza to boot in to investigate drivers in the os
[04:39] <jameyhazey1> I have been able to hold down shift and bring up GRUB, and entered into recovery mode, and when I enter into the low graphics mode, the xserver log file says it can detect a screen but found none with a useable configuration, then goes on to say a fatal server error has occurred and no screen have been found at all, telling me to check a log file at "/var/log/xorg.0.log"  I have no idea how to check this specific log file!
[04:42] <john77> wondering whether startup disk creator can be used to create bootable usb stick for other debian-related distros such as mint, zorin and the like
[04:42] <jameyhazey1> @wilee-nilee  when I use no mode set i still get a black screen, so i am unsure how i can investigate said drivers...
[04:43] <overclucker> franzer: you can unpack it with gunzip and then run it, or pipe it to bash: zcat /usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/setup-mysql.gz | sudo bash
[04:43] <Donnie_Darko21> helloo folks i just came up to say that it have a problem with the google earth 7 on ubuntu 12.04  dont start
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> jameyhazey1, There is no answer here to the suggestion here but probably worth trying. http://askubuntu.com/questions/164968/ubuntu-12-04-on-dell-latitude-d610-along-with-windows-7
[04:44] <overclucker> franzer: oops tab-fail, sorry about that
[04:47] <OMG_UbuntuServer> Hello
[04:47] <OMG_UbuntuServer> I install Ubuntu Server 12.04 on my system
[04:47] <OMG_UbuntuServer> and setting apm
[04:48] <OMG_UbuntuServer> I can connect guest > my server
[04:48] <OMG_UbuntuServer> but, my server can connet to internet
[04:48] <OMG_UbuntuServer> how can I solve this problem?
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> Donnie_Darko21, You install the lsb-core?
[04:49] <Donnie_Darko21> does someone install googleearth 7 ?
[04:49] <Donnie_Darko21> yes
[04:49] <Donnie_Darko21> already installed
[04:49] <jameyhazey1> wiee-nilee thanks for the link. i've already read this one and followed the instructions, but am given a choice of running in low graphcis mode for one session, reconfigure graphics or troubleshoot the error
[04:50] <OMG_UbuntuServer> Anyone?
[04:51] <jameyhazey1> or exit to console login. not too sure what to do from here
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Donnie_Darko21, I see instructions on the web, you have probably have as well.
[04:52] <Donnie_Darko21> here is the crash log
[04:52] <Donnie_Darko21> http://pastebin.com/N5TbSJs6
[04:53] <jameyhazey1> if anyone could help me figure out which would be the best option to progress with from here. there is no startup error log which is weird.
[04:53] <organixpear> hello- I have an atheros ar9485 wireless chip inside an acer aspire one. Using the latest ubuntu released days ago every time the system reaches the desktop from a fresh boot after a few seconds the entire system locks up and i have to hold down the power key. if I actually open the laptop and remove the wifi card everything is great. i would definetly like to use my wifi though.
[04:57] <mingo> any recommendations on a PC laptop with great battery life? are Lenovos the way to go?
[04:57] <justaguest> ebay
[04:58] <isaac> Does anyone know why pulseaudio won't show any input devices? I think it might be using the wrong soundcard since the default in alsamixer was wrong, but I changed the default to the right one now and pulseaudio still doesn't show any microphones or input. Thanks in advanced :)
[05:00] <Donnie_Darko21> purging googleearth7
[05:00] <Donnie_Darko21> hope soon fix
[05:02] <jameyhazey1> a new user attempting to install some compatible graphics drivers with "nomodeset". computer is booting into low graphics mode but i am unsure how to proceed.
[05:02] <Narkon> install the drivers for your graphic card
[05:03] <jameyhazey1> narkon  i am unclear on how i can do this? my computer is refusing to display the login screen
[05:03] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: where do you get in the boot process?
[05:04] <elky> mingo, you're likely to get a better response for that from somewhere that's not a tightly focussed support channel, such as #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[05:05] <jameyhazey1> i see a purple screen, then the screen goes black but is still on. if i boot into GRUB the display works though...
[05:05] <onceagain> my compiz just crashed while I was running some data mining software in vmware and now I cant get my vmware to maximize/restore to my desktop. I will lose some progress if I have to terminate vmware. any suggestions?
[05:05] <wols> jameyhazey1: what videocard?
[05:05] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: what's your hardware?
[05:06] <jameyhazey1> an old dell latitude D610.
[05:06] <jameyhazey1> wikipedia tells me it has a Intel UMA integrated (915GM) and a ATI discrete (X300)
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> Donnie_Darko21, Yeah I removed the 6.2 and completely removed any google earth link on my computer and still could not get it to get past a flash of the first gui.
[05:08] <Donnie_Darko21> yep  ...
[05:09] <jameyhazey1> wols, narkon. could it be because of the dual cards that i might be having issues?
[05:09]  * ArchOpenBox Note remember to self not to use ATI card in Linux
[05:09] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: so you boot in grup, then add the nomodeset flag and you should get pass the login screen?
[05:09] <Narkon> grub*
[05:10] <Donnie_Darko21> soon  fix will come
[05:10] <jameyhazey1> narkon yeah i boot in grub, add the flag but I don't get the login screen. I get a "low graphics mode" instead.
[05:10] <Donnie_Darko21> wilee-nilee use the 6.2
[05:11] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: do you get to your desktop in low graphics mode?
[05:13] <jameyhazey1> narkon no, i cannot get to the login screen
[05:14] <jameyhazey1> narkon i get asked to either run in low graphics for one session, which ends up artifacting the screen and freezing, reconfigure graphics, troubleshooting the error or exiting to console login.
[05:14] <ArchOpenBox> Best way to highlight text in web browser and save txt?
[05:15] <abdostar> is it possible to pin an app(shortcut) to the desktop?
[05:16] <reptile4rmy> hmmm
[05:17] <ArchOpenBox> abdostar: When I use Cinnamon yes. I use kupfer for Unity and Gnome 3 and MATE.
[05:17] <alecb> I was helping a friend install ubuntu and I misunderstood some stuff about what he wanted for his partition sizes, and thought he wanted to shrink his windows partition to 100GB (he meant he wanted 100GB for ubuntu). so right now it's in the process of shrinking the partition, but the issue is he may have more than 100GB of data on it.
[05:18] <wols> jameyhazey1: why do you want to install special videodrivers in the first place?
[05:18] <abdostar> ArchOpenBox, thank you
[05:18] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: reboot, get to the grub screen, press F6 and make sure nomodeset is set, then boot. Do you still get a black screen?
[05:19] <jameyhazey1> wols i simply assumed the ones that came with ubuntu were incompatable.
[05:20] <abdostar> what are the UI tweaks you do to new Ubuntu installation to make it better
[05:20] <wols> jameyhazey1: rething your assumptions. so what have you done to install drivers so far?
[05:20] <jameyhazey1> narkon i get to grub, but pressing f6 is not doing anything at all.
[05:20] <arunkumar413> hi, how to scan for installed OS on my system from grub 2
[05:21] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: hum yea, follow this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it/162076#162076
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, what is the actual problem?
[05:21] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: go to the Black/purple screen after you boot Ubuntu for the first time" section
[05:21] <jameyhazey1> wols. i haven't done anything yet since i can't get to a useful stage yet! haha
[05:22] <wols> jameyhazey1: so you get the low graphics message immediately after installing ubuntu?
[05:22] <ArchOpenBox> abdostar: Lots of tweaks to many to list right of the bat.
[05:22] <wols> if so, press ctrl+alt+f1, log in and check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:22] <wols> arunkumar413: grub2 has a "help" command IIRC
[05:22] <jameyhazey1> wols. no, only after adding the nomodeset flag in grub. if i don't add the flag the screen just boots to purple flash and black
[05:23] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i have installed 3 OS, window, ubuntu, fedora. formatted fedora drive from windows OS. now its entering into grub prompt after reboot
[05:23] <reptile4rmy> qqq
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, You can't format a linux drive from windows.
[05:23] <wols> jameyhazey1: remove the nomodeset and try to press ctrl+alt+f1 to get a prompt
[05:24] <wols> arunkumar413: what was the last OS you have installed?
[05:24] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: wols, fedora
[05:25] <magn3ts> wilee-nilee: uh what?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Did you make a flash drive install or a cd from windows is that what you meant?
[05:25] <magn3ts> wilee-nilee: oh, you mean format it to an extX fs?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> magn3ts, exactly
[05:25] <magn3ts> never mind, I just parsed it wrong probably
[05:25]  * magn3ts nods
[05:26] <jameyhazey1> narkon i have followed the instructions but that only gets me to the mow graphics menu where i get stuck
[05:26] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: installed fedora using cd. formateed the fedora from windows using disk management.
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, What type of partition?
[05:27] <wols> arunkumar413: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System
[05:27] <jameyhazey1> wols i have removed the flag and have tried crtl alt f1 but cannot get a prompt to show.
[05:27] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: i don't know what graphic menu you are talking about, what distribution and version are you running?
[05:27] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i'm not able to boot to any OS. it's going to the grub command prompt
[05:28] <jameyhazey1> narkon ubuntu 32 bit desktop 12.10
[05:28] <wols> jameyhazey1: then I guess you have to put it in again. check for any /var/log/Xorg* files
[05:29] <jameyhazey1> wols. adding the nomodeset back gets be to low graphcs mode and i have a prompt up now
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, I would run the bootscript from a ubuntu live cd and post the text in a pastebin so we can see exactly whats up.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[05:30] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: but my cd/dvd drive is also not working. that's why i'm asked how to rescue  the OS from grub command prompt
[05:30] <wols> jameyhazey1: and you can check your Xorg.0.log files
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Or from the live cd use this app to just run the bootinfo summary to give us a url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:31] <jameyhazey1> wols. sure, how would i go about doing that? :P
[05:31] <wols> by going to /var/log and looking at files?
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, HOw did you use a fedora cd to install then.
[05:32] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i installed fedora from cd but after few days the the cd/dvd drive is not working
[05:33] <cowsquad> how do I set the scrollbar mode normal?
[05:33] <wols> arunkumar413: when you have a grub prompt, type "help"
[05:33] <jameyhazey1> wols. in the prompt? so i just write the directory i want to look at? I am new to linux and not very knowledgeable about unix commands etc
[05:34] <admin3920> hello...
[05:34] <admin3920> i'm new to linux and ubuntu.
[05:34] <admin3920> is it hard to setup file server using ubuntu?
[05:34] <wols> jameyhazey1: cd /var/log;ls Xorg*
[05:34] <wols> !samba | admin3920
[05:34] <arunkumar413> wols:i typed help, it showing some commands
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, If you know the ubuntu partition # you can manual boot to it then reinstall grub to the mbr from there. http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20How%20To%20Boot%20From%20CLI%20Mode.html
[05:35] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: you can try to install the ATI driver from the prompt like so : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:35] <cowsquad> #exit
[05:35] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: no idea about the partition. does update-grub command detect all my OS
[05:35] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: if it doesn't work, you'll have to purge it and try something else, gl
[05:35] <wols> Narkon: X300
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, The page tells you how to find it.
[05:36] <wols> jameyhazey1: which ubuntu version again?
[05:36] <jameyhazey1> 12.10
[05:36] <wols> then ignore what narkon wrote. he has no clue. fglrx won't support your videocard
[05:37] <wols> and the first thing to check is what videocard is actually used. alternatively you could disable/enable only a single one in BIOS if possible
[05:38] <admin3920> wols: thanks
[05:38] <admin3920> ubottu: thanks for info
[05:38] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: i don't know the partitions, i want grub to automatically detect all the OS
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, If you can't get a usb to boot from to get in rather then a cd you are probably going to have to manual boot in.
[05:39] <wols> arunkumar413: and I want a pony. neither of us will get his wants
[05:39] <wols> arunkumar413: as a hint, start with "ls"
[05:40] <wols> arunkumar413: and start to read documentation: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Command_002dline-and-menu-entry-commands.html
[05:40] <jameyhazey1> wols. k. so i entered the command you said and simply got it spat back out at me? lol.
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> wols, I'm imagining a magic pony for you. ;)
[05:40] <arunkumar413> wols: typed ls. it says command not recognised
[05:41] <wols> arunkumar413: what kind of grub shell do you have?
[05:41] <arunkumar413> wols: grub>
[05:42] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: it's true the fglrx won't support it but I this seems to be the way to solve it : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11361011&postcount=5 ; do the last 3 commands (ignore the sudo apt-get remove if you haven't installed it)
[05:42] <wols> Narkon: how do you know it will work with a hybrid graphics notebook?
[05:43] <wols> Narkon: also, the radeon driver is installed and used by default. but obviously it doesn't work so well for him
[05:43] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413: if u could boot from live usb drive.then u could reinstall grub from there
[05:44] <wols> arunkumar413: what version of fedora did you install?
[05:48] <jameyhazey1> narkon. wols. i ran the three commands there that you told me and the last one is saying that xorg server is not installed.
[05:48] <wols> jameyhazey1: sudo apt-get install xorg
[05:49] <wols> and all the things there you already have anyways
[05:49] <wols> or should have
[05:49] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: it's important to note that you need a live connection to the internet on your computer for apt-get to work
[05:49] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, is there a command in grub command prompt to detect all the OS
[05:50] <jameyhazey1> wols. yeah its saying 0 upgraded, newley installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:50] <wols> jameyhazey1: again: what Xorg* files are there?
[05:50] <jameyhazey1> narkon. wireless probably wouldn't be working then no? thats all i have at the moment but i could swap to wired
[05:51] <jameyhazey1> wols. the ones when i run that cd command?
[05:51] <wols> yes
[05:51] <SB_SP> hey guys
[05:51] <SB_SP> How to Run a Command on Startup
[05:52] <Narkon> jameyhazey1: http://web.cynd.net/~willo/ubuntu-12-10-upgrade-difficulties-with-an-ati-mobility-radeon-x300/  you could try that, seems like you have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf , change: options radeon modeset=1 (from 0 to 1) and then type command: update-initramfs -u
[05:52] <jameyhazey1> wols. it lists xorg.0.log, xorg.0.log.old xorg.failsafe.log and xorg.failsafe.log.old
[05:53] <clary> Hi Guys
[05:53] <SB_SP> anybody can  help whit what i ask up ?
[05:53] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413 ,http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm,read this may help
[05:54] <clary> I am getting connection failed activation of network connection failed
[05:54] <clary> when i am trying to get connetion on wireless
[05:54] <clary> in ubnutu
[05:54] <sakre> need to have sex tonight
[05:54] <wols> arunkumar413: how do you know he runs grub 1 ?
[05:56] <bazhang> sakre, wrong network. stop it
[05:56] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, used this command,
[05:56] <arunkumar413> root(hd0,0)
[05:56] <arunkumar413> makeactive
[05:56] <arunkumar413> chainloader + 1
[05:56] <arunkumar413> boot
[05:56] <FloodBot1> arunkumar413: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <SB_SP> How to Run a Command on Startup? guys common
[05:58] <overclucker> SB_SP: upstart
[05:59] <overclucker> !upstart | SB_SP
[06:00] <SB_SP> thx
[06:00] <clary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1328381/
[06:01] <overclucker> SB_SP: all the useful stuff is in http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[06:02] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, if u could boot from usb pls try http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[06:03] <spectrus> Having trouble installing Ubuntu from LiveUSB. Hangs when trying to continue past selecting a wireless network.
[06:03] <reptile4rmy> v
[06:05] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, some how managed to get into the recovery mode menu of ubuntu. there is an option grub to update groub bootlaoder. if i select does this detect all my OS
[06:05] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, yes.most times
[06:07] <wols> arunkumar413: you will need to reinstall grub, updating is not enough
[06:07] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, You should be able to boot into ubuntu from there, choose the top line to continue boot at the gui and use startx to get to the desktop
[06:07] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, if the grub works is from ubuntu or you have to install from recovery mode
[06:08] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, selected update grub, its taking time
[06:14] <akis> any advise how could be permanent keyboard layout in xubuntu 12.04 with more than 1 user. any recommendation in ask ubuntu doesn't work. is it a bug?
[06:18] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, successfully booted into ubuntu. now how to update the grub so that all OS are displayed in boot menu
[06:19] <Aravind_geek> first install grub by 'grub-install devicename(sda1orhda1)'
[06:20] <Aravind_geek> then update all os installed with update-grub
[06:20] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, its grub2 in ubuntu
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Is the HD sda run sudo fdisk -l to conform the HD, and I will give you the grub install command to the mbr.
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> confirm*
[06:22] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, wilee-nilee,  sorry it's grub in ubuntu
[06:23] <arunkumar413> wilee-nilee: its sda
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Cool run sudo grub-install /dev/sda   then sudo update-grub and you should be set.
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, Some fedora versions need to be mounted to have it show in the grub update as well.
[06:25] <Phase> Setting a user's shell to nologin also prevents me from doing sudo su'ing into it, is there a way I can still prevent outside login but still access it with sudo su?
[06:25] <Phase> -doing*
[06:32] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, did update-grub but not showing os menu while booting. it's still going into the grub menu
[06:35] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, did u installed grub as directed by wilee-nilee?
[06:35] <arunkumar413> aravind_geek, yes
[06:36] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413,>>>it's still going into the grub menu. is to goes to grub prompt?
[06:36] <ASHER1> where i can find in ubuntu 12.04 all Package
[06:36] <ASHER1> ?
[06:37] <overclucker> ASHER1: all installed packages?
[06:37] <ASHER1> i want install something
[06:37] <ASHER1> and i no find
[06:37] <ASHER1> the packages
[06:37] <ASHER1> i using in ubuntu 12.04
[06:38] <Aravind_geek> ASHER1,hai write is a single sentence cant understood.
[06:38] <rahul_> hey
[06:38] <arunkumar413> aravind_geekm, i'll try it later. now my cd/dvd not detecting
[06:39] <overclucker> Phase: sudo -u username /bin/bash ?
[06:40] <Phase> hmm let me try
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> arunkumar413, If you get into ubuntu again run the bootscript and save it to post here or in a thread at the ubuntu forum, the script will give a lot more info on your setup. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[06:41] <Phase> overclucker: That worked, ty :)
[06:42] <puff> I'm an HBO subscriber, I pay a ton of money every month to get cable premium channels.  HBO has been promoting the bejezus out of HBO GO, and google search results indicate I should be able to watch HBO GO on my ubuntu box... but when I actually open those search result pages, I get link farm spam.
[06:42] <Aravind_geek> arunkumar413, Is it detected by Bios. not shown only in ubuntu.
[06:43] <Phase> puff, try navigating to hbo go from HBO's main website?
[06:43] <joe__> help
[06:44] <codemaniac> joe__: what with?
[06:44] <puff> Case in point, third gogle result from "hbo go on ubuntu" : http://www.webtopicture.com/hbo/hbo-go-ubuntu.html
[06:44] <Phase> puff: That's someones website on a google results page. That is not the actual website.
[06:46] <Phase> puff: http://www.hbogo.com/ Here is HBO Go's website.
[06:46] <overclucker> puff: http://www.webtopicture.com/hbo/hbo-dinosaur-ubuntu-popsicle.html
[06:46] <joe__> where am i?
[06:46] <puff> Phase: Yes, and hbo's hbo go page doesn't say anything about linux.
[06:46] <puff> overclucker: thanks.
[06:47] <Phase> puff: Then you need to blame those people with websites who claim you're able to watch HBO Go on linux, not Ubuntu itself.
[06:47] <puff> overclucker: Again, that URL is a link spam farm.
[06:47] <puff> Phase: I'm not blaming ubuntu, I'm quite aware of how spam works, I'm just asking for a pointer to a real ubuntu solution :-)
[06:48] <Phase> puff: Ahh, it didn't seem like that, sorry :)
[06:48] <puff> no sweat, I should have been more clear.
[06:49] <joe__> exit
[06:53] <overclucker> puff: have you tried using hbogo yet?
[06:56] <desu> Wow, no-one talking...
[06:57] <Phase> :o the horror
[06:57] <puff> overclucker: No, because I can't figure out what I'm supposed to download and install.
[06:57] <food> I am having same problem like http://askubuntu.com/questions/203465/ubuntu-12-04-12-10-keeps-on-freezing I need some help for preventing this kind of issue.My Ubuntu all windows , panel get ugly if it is continuing for more than 12 hours.
[06:58] <food> I installed KDE and removed compize some other Gnome application, xorg is perhaps up to date. Even i upgraded the Kernel to 3.4 . Still i am having this problem
[06:58] <food> So my laptop can't work for long time
[07:00] <m3pow> hello guys !
[07:00] <desu> hey
[07:00] <m3pow> any particular reason why disk access is a bit slow in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[07:00] <puff> m3pow: Hello.
[07:00] <desu> Is it really?
[07:01] <puff> food: I wish I had a good answer for you, but I'm still back on 11.4 (the previous LTS).
[07:01] <m3pow> since i've installed it
[07:01] <m3pow> 12.04.1 was way faster
[07:01] <puff> food: My only suggestion is, try a different window manager and see if you still have the problem.  If not, you've narrowed it down to the window manager.  Try "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:01] <desu> I loved 11.04, then my hard drive failed and I decided to upgrade...
[07:01] <OpenSorce> m3pow, ide or sata drive(s)?
[07:02] <m3pow> sata
[07:02] <m3pow> HDX18
[07:02] <OpenSorce> Could be a bug
[07:02] <m3pow> could be yes!
[07:02] <food> puff, I remove compize and installed kwine .... now my default GUI is KDE
[07:02] <m3pow> did not find any related issues on forums
[07:02] <desu> default gui is awesome for me...
[07:03] <food> puff, Can you give me the Download link of 11.04?
[07:03] <desu> x86 or x64?
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> food, 11.04 is end of life and not supported he meant 10.04
[07:04] <food> i see
[07:04] <food> puff, I think that is not problem of x-manager
[07:04] <Phase> I have the user bob's shell set to nologin, when I do sudo -u bob -s /bin/bash from my username, it puts me into MY home directory on the user bob.. adding -H doesn't help, any ideas?
[07:05] <food> puff, you had the same problem?
[07:05] <m3pow> thanks OpenSource
[07:06] <overclucker> Phase: this is you aren't simulating a login, and if you were, your login shell would be used (nologin)
[07:07] <rodayo> Is there a way to "pause" a large operation that's been running for a while? i.e. so i can resume it later?
[07:07] <rodayo> large copy operation*
[07:07] <desu> Phase: I can't help, but if you find a solution tell me?
[07:07] <nu11value> rlogin
[07:07] <desu> rodayo ^Z
[07:07] <desu> (CTRL+Z)
[07:07] <Phase> overclucker: Hmm, well maybe I should approach this from a different angle. I have a daemon I want to run from that user, but I don't want it to be accessible via normal login
[07:08] <Phase> desu: See my message to overclucker ^ I'm looking at different ways to tackle the problem
[07:08] <rodayo> desu, and to continue it later, just start it again?
[07:08] <desu> fg %<job number>
[07:09] <desu> "jobs" to check currently running processes
[07:09] <desu> rodayo: got it?
[07:09] <rodayo> neat, TIL
[07:09] <desu> TIL?
[07:10] <rodayo> today i learned
[07:10] <desu> Ah
[07:10] <Phase> it's a reddit thing
[07:10] <rodayo> Does it make a difference that it's running from a live usb?
[07:11] <overclucker> Phase: give it a shell, but don't set a password
[07:11] <Phase> overclucker: Actually, sshd has DenyUsers, I believe that would suitable enough for me
[07:11] <Phase> hm
[07:11] <desu> you can also run processes in the background by adding & at the end (e.x. chromium-browser &)
[07:12] <overclucker> Phase: no password means no login, other than from su
[07:12] <rodayo> desu, actually the more important question, does it get saved after you shutdown the machine?
[07:12] <rodayo> guessing no?
[07:13] <desu> rodayo Can you provide an example?
[07:13] <Phase> overclucker: That seems to have worked, thanks
[07:14] <Phase> desu: The solution I have working (thanks to overclucker) is giving the user a shell, but stripping a password from it so it can't login.
[07:14] <desu> rodayo Nevermind, bit of a brainfart, no you can't continue the process even after shutdown. Unless you dumped your memory into a storage device, then remounted it to memory after reboot.
[07:14] <rodayo> desu, my windows boot stuff got messed up but i can mount into it on a liveusb and grab the files. there's abotu 300GB that i'm transfering to a NAS...but it's a really slow connection 1.9MB/sec so i wanna pause it and restart tomorro
[07:15] <rodayo> i read about rsync, is that sorta what i'm looking for?
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, You know how to repair a windows boot? What windows release?
[07:16] <desu> probably, don't have any experience with rsync.
[07:16] <rodayo> i tried a few things: ntfsfix, ....uh i guess that was it actually
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, XP?
[07:17] <rodayo> sry, win7
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, You can rebuild the BCD if you have a install or recovery disc
[07:18] <rodayo> i can't say for sure that it's the boot that's broken. but gparted says the C:/ partition is corrupted
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, Is it showing as unallocated?
[07:18] <rodayo> i actually do not
[07:19] <rodayo> on boot up it says "could not find volume" or something like that and goes into a grub rescue prompt
[07:19] <rodayo> oh and i had it dual booting with ubuntu
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, YOu remove the ubuntu before this?
[07:20] <rodayo> no i can't boot into ubuntu either, normally grub brings up the option to choose which os i wanna boot into...
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, Did you try to get any help at the ubuntu forums?
[07:21] <rodayo> my plan is to copy the 300GB of data fromt he ntfs partition, keep it on the nas, do a clean new win8 install on this computer then copy them back
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> say with a bootscript
[07:21] <^_||_^> ahhhh the whales of ubuntu
[07:21] <rodayo> to the*
[07:21] <desu> Why win8?
[07:21] <^_||_^> I went back to Debian and I"m never leaving again
[07:22] <rodayo> i get a nice deal on it, kinda wanna try it out
[07:22] <Phase> ^_||_^: I use Win7 for desktop, and have 2 debian servers, 1 ubuntu server, and a centos server
[07:22] <desu> I'm on ubuntu, thinking of switching over to debian though, too much bloat I don't need on ubuntu.
[07:22] <Phase> I don't discriminate :D
[07:22] <desu> and unity...dear jesus
[07:22] <rodayo> desu, unity gets a bad wrap, i don't really mind it too much
[07:22] <rodayo> rap*
[07:22] <^_||_^> niceee Phase
[07:23] <desu> I don't discriminate either, but win8 seems like a terrible waste of time...
[07:23] <rodayo> some of the defaults of it are just plain bad design ideas
[07:23] <Phase> eh I'll switch to win8 when I get my hands on a box that came preinstalled with it
[07:23] <desu> rodayo, I tried it, I will admit it's not bad. But it's just not my cup of tea
[07:23] <rodayo> desu, yeah but i don't think it's unreasonable to wanna try it out right?
[07:23] <rodayo> ah i see
[07:24] <desu> I guess, but I would just try it on a virtual machine, see if it's actually worth it.
[07:24] <rodayo> im kind of a sucker for sleek and pretty UI, but nothing beats a linux prompt
[07:24] <desu> haha agreed.
[07:25] <Phase> meh I use Win7 basic
[07:25] <Phase> don't care for aero
[07:25] <rodayo> just reading about rsync, says i can just merge later and it'll only copy over files that don't exist
[07:25] <rodayo> hopefully it doesn't lag too long on the "check" process
[07:25] <Phase> rodayo: once you do rsync once to get everything done, if you run it again it'll just copy the changes over, yeah
[07:26] <rodayo> oh so i have to be using rsync to continue it later?
[07:26] <rodayo> cause right now it's a folder to folder copy with nautilus
[07:26] <desu> rodayo isn't that just the same as "mv -u"?
[07:27] <rodayo> rsync does network transfers too
[07:27] <Phase> rodayo: now that I don't know (about continue it later)
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> rodayo, When you install W8 once all setup run the image backup and save it on a separate HD, and back up the rest as well, you would not have to do this recovery then.
[07:27] <rodayo> wilee-nilee, good call, i'll remember to do that
[07:28] <unsobill> any1 installed QEMU on unbuntu ?
[07:28] <unsobill> latelay ?
[07:28] <unsobill> errday errday
[07:30] <desu> Out of curiosity what are your preferred irc clients?
[07:30] <rodayo> anyway, phase, desu, willee, thanks for the help. have a good night or morning of one of the other ones =P
[07:30] <desu> night...
[07:31] <Phase> one of the other ones
[07:31] <Phase> lol
[07:31] <newps> Hi. My wireless getup doesn't seem to be loaded in Ubuntu when I boot up for the first time; I always need to start in Windows before it works in Ubuntu. Any idea what's going on?
[07:32] <desu> I don't think I properly understand the question.
[07:33] <iylea> /c/c
[07:34] <desu> "/c/c"?
[07:34] <ix_> what options are there for youtube viewing without flash? I know of youtube-dl and minitube, any other?
[07:35] <Phase> html5
[07:35] <Phase> youtube.com/html5
[07:35] <ix_> I know that one too
[07:35] <ix_> but not all videos play on html5
[07:35] <Phase> hmm
[07:35] <Phase> well
[07:35] <Phase> nsfwyoutube.com, but with ads
[07:35] <Phase> lol
[07:35] <ix_> I mean a program for ubuntu
[07:35] <Phase> ah
[07:35] <ix_> to see youtube
[07:35] <Phase> got me there
[07:35] <belal122> what is obottu.com ?
[07:36] <belal122> did they mispell ubuntu?
[07:36] <Phase> technically theres also http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/<video id>, I might write a program that wraps around that..
[07:37] <desu> doesn't youtube natively allow viewing of content with just html5?
[07:37] <Phase> not sponsored videos
[07:37] <newps> desu: Basically, my modem doesn't work until I boot in Windows first. It doesn't detect wlan0
[07:37] <Phase> videos that that partners have included ads on
[07:38] <desu> well if you use chromium and adblockplus there's no problem with ads and what not is there?
[07:38] <Phase> No, but I don't know if youtube would see that and still allow it to work on html5 :P
[07:39] <Phase> I don't have a ubuntu desktop up anywhere right now or I'd test real quick
[07:39] <desu> newps: I don't think I can help you  there sorry. but have you tried "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" at startup?
[07:39] <Phase> If ubuntu isn't recognizing it, my brain tells me driver issue
[07:40] <desu> I had some minor issues with an old laptop and that worked for me.
[07:40] <newps> I'll try that next time
[07:40] <newps> Usually I just reboot into Windows and restart again
[07:40] <desu_> lol
[07:40] <desu_> I left without leaving, yay me!
[07:40] <newps> Phase: Assuming it's driver issues, what do I do to force Ubuntu to detect it?
[07:41] <Phase> newps: This is where I'm stuck, sorry
[07:41] <Phase> I haven't really done much with a desktop install of linux/ubuntu in 2 or so years
[07:41] <desu_> well what hardware is it?
[07:43] <newps> It's integrated hardware
[07:43] <newps> sudo lshw -C network doesn't reveal any names
[07:43] <desu_> use hwinfo?
[07:43] <ms_choudhary_200> hi, I am using ubuntu since last 3 months on sony vaio vpceh25. Sometimes, my touchpad stops working, though Keyboard still works. It's not the problem of touchpad.neither the clicks or pointer works.how can I fix this?
[07:45] <rigo> hi
[07:46] <rigo> is there something between the "netinst" and the "full with ubuntu desktop" iso? so i would need a minimalist install but dont want to download all the packages every time i install ubuntu.
[07:46] <Phase> rigo: Not that I'm aware of
[07:46] <desu_> isn't that just the server version?
[07:47] <desu_> server is pretty minimalistic
[07:47] <Phase> rigo: Honestly, I would download the desktop release once and hang onto it incase you need to reinstall
[07:47] <Phase> since you don't want to have to redownload all the various packages, etc.
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> rigo, the net is the base install you will have a choice of servers and desktops to choose from.
[07:48] <rigo> can i add the install disk as repository?
[07:48] <rigo> once i had a debian release was a minimalist installation but it was 4 dvd large with lot lot of packages
[07:49] <Phase> the debian netinst iso is incredibly tiny last time I used it
[07:49] <Phase> was*
[07:49] <Phase> I suck at words when it gets to be this late -_-
[07:49] <rigo> ubu netinst is 24mb either.
[07:50] <rigo> i just feel wasting my time with the download.. i reinstall my system regulary to find the best minimalist installation for me
[07:51] <rigo> BUT if i could find out how to backup (and than restore) the whole system easy i wouldnt need such thing
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> rigo, The net install is the best way to get a minimal install of ubuntu if that is what you are looking for.
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> rigo, Clonezilla ia a easy cloning tool.
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> is*
[07:52] <Phase> I second that clonezilla statement
[07:52] <aali83> hi guys
[07:52] <newps> Model: "WLAN network interface"
[07:52] <newps> Lol
[07:52] <Phase> My computer-illiterate sister likes to get viruses every other week
[07:52] <Phase> backup photos + other minimal data, deploy clonezilla
[07:52] <Phase> done
[07:52] <Phase> :D
[07:52] <desu_> Phase how old is she?
[07:53] <Phase> 20
[07:53] <Phase> one time I told her if she did it again I would install Ubuntu on it
[07:53] <Phase> she did it again
[07:53] <Phase> I installed ubuntu on it
[07:53] <desu_> ...She should know better by now.
[07:53] <Phase> lol
[07:53] <FloodBot1> Phase: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:53] <throwed54> My muther has gotten my dad viruses on his w7 install by browsing knitting pattern sites
[07:53] <Phase> sorry FloodBot1 <3 u
[07:53] <Phase> desu_: Yes she should.. but ah well
[07:53] <aali83> I am getting the following error when i try to do install any package    E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:54] <Phase> I would make a fortune off of her if I even charged half of what best buy does for virus cleanup
[07:54] <Phase> lol
[07:54] <Phase> but I don't charge family for anything like that
[07:54] <throwed54> She's your sister. You love her.
[07:54] <Phase> yep
[07:54] <aali83>  tried the following command sudo dpkg --configure -a but it did not work
[07:54] <Phase> aali83: error message?
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Phase, If you enable them they wont learn.
[07:55] <desu_> I'm actually considering getting a job at Best Buy or Staples to rob people for their computer illiteracy.
[07:55] <Phase> wilee-nilee: When she gets a computer again I already plan on teaching her how to avoid shady sites, etc.
[07:55] <Phase> probably use that Web of Trust addon, looks interesting
[07:55] <rigo> wilee nilee thanks
[07:55] <throwed54> desu: would be nice if you were a commissione dofficer
[07:55] <throwed54> *commisioned officer
[07:56] <desu_> haha
[07:56] <aali83> Phase, it tries to install Beef automatically when i try to install a package and gives me the following error message:    dpkg: error processing beef (--configure):
[07:57] <desu_> anyone know a good place to further myself as a python programmer?
[07:57] <Phase> I wish I could grasp python.. I can't for some rason
[07:57] <Phase> reason*
[07:57] <Phase> php.. not so bad
[07:57] <Phase> python.. :|
[07:57] <desu_> byr it's so simple D:
[07:57] <desu_> but &
[07:58] <Phase> I will eventually
[07:58] <Phase> lol
[07:58] <desu_> I have a feeling I'm one of the younger members of this irc server...
[07:59] <Phase> I've been using IRC since I was 10-11, so I know how you feel on that
[07:59] <desu_> Now the question is: When is 'eventually?'
[07:59] <Phase> desu_: Soon, got laid off at work, so I'll have some freetime..
[07:59] <desu_> Tough man..
[08:00] <Phase> mhmm
[08:00] <Phase> not too stressed about it
[08:00] <desu_> Why's that?
[08:00] <Phase> it's just crap temporary work at a warehouse
[08:00] <desu_> Ah I see.
[08:01] <desu_> I'm personally freeloading off my parents until I go off to college at some point.
[08:01] <Phase> lol
[08:01] <Phase> how old are you if I may ask?
[08:01] <asmita> exit
[08:02] <desu_> 17, but I dropped out of High School(because of illness)
[08:02] <desu_> So I can't help but feel like a burden.
[08:02] <Phase> ouch, yeah
[08:02] <Phase> are you in the U.S.? get your GED
[08:03] <desu_> I'm in the process, I have to wait for January to come around due to a long waiting list at my local testing center.
[08:03] <Phase> yep, know that feeling too.. I have my GED
[08:04] <Phase> I got lucky though, just finished the classes (required in my state) and 2 weeks later managed to get a spot at the test location
[08:04] <Phase> It's not too difficult, just make sure you study :)
[08:05] <desu_> I have been.
[08:05] <Phase> Math was my lowest score I think
[08:05] <desu_> My time's been split between web-development on a site my mom wants to get started, MIT OCW, and programming.
[08:05] <Phase> MIT OCW?
[08:05] <desu_> Yea, great stuff.
[08:06] <Phase> what is that?
[08:06] <desu_> http://ocw.mit.edu
[08:06] <desu_> MIT has a bunch of free course content.
[08:06] <desu_> Great stuff.
[08:06] <Phase> oh cool
[08:06] <desu_> mhm
[08:06] <Phase> You may also like khanacademy.org and udacity.com too
[08:07] <desu_> I've heard of khan but never actually used it, udacity is new to me though.
[08:07] <Phase> I haven't used udacity, but it's similar to MIT OCW from what I've seen
[08:07] <desu_> off to scavenge pen and paper somewhere!
[08:07] <Phase> khan is amazing
[08:07] <Phase> I unfortunately discovered it a couple weeks after I took that test
[08:09] <newps> exit
[08:09] <newps> oops
[08:09] <newps> XD
[08:09] <Phase> lol
[08:09] <desu_> haha back in High School my teachers kept telling me to go on it and do stuff.
[08:10] <desu_> y for there to be a reason to go on there.
[08:10] <desu_> ummm...?
[08:10] <Phase> what?
[08:10] <Phase> lol
[08:10] <desu_> what happened to my sentence? D:
[08:10] <desu_> Anyway point is I never bothered going there.
[08:10] <Phase> yeah
[08:10] <desu_> Do they have advanced mathematics and logic lessons?
[08:10] <food> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080089
[08:11] <Phase> desu_: They've talked about calculas and such, I'm not sure if they have any videos up of it yet
[08:12] <desu_> Apparently they have a couple hundred videos about calculus.
[08:13] <Phase> awesome
[08:13] <desu_> I will be doing this whenever I get back home.
[08:13] <OerHeks> food, do a memtest86, could be a memory problem
[08:13] <desu_> I've had to crash at my brother's thanks to poophead "hurricane" sandy
[08:14] <Phase> ouch, hope everyones alright there
[08:14] <desu_> Well NJ got hit pretty hard, but where I live there was just massive power outtages and a lot of downed trees.
[08:14] <desu_> I've been without power at my house for 5 days now :/
[08:15] <Phase> damn
[08:16] <food> OerHeks, Okay, Doing it right now!
[08:17] <tevus_> hello everybody
[08:17] <codemaniac> hi tevus
[08:17] <tevus_> im a beginner trying to make ubuntu work
[08:18] <tevus_> first of all the problem is that flash crashes
[08:18] <tevus_> d i think it is because i installed a youtube to mp3 program thingy
[08:18] <tevus_> anyone out there?
[08:18] <_Desu_> youtube to mp3 program?
[08:19] <tevus_> oh well, i realize that i dont have time now
[08:19] <tevus_> thank you and have a good day
[08:19] <_Desu_> ummm ok..
[08:19] <rigo> and what is the difference between 12.04 and 12.10 netinst? only that the .10 contains a newer kernel?
[08:19] <_Desu_> anytime I guess.
[08:19] <rsv> my ubuntu 12.04 had crashed, so i tried to re-install the ubuntu. it has overwritten my home directory. is there any way i can restore it
[08:19] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, newer software versions.
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, if you reinstalled and didn't back up your /home directory, there's a very very slim chance of recovery.
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> this is why backups are awesome.
[08:20] <rsv> TheLordOfTime: i thought it will leave it
[08:20] <_Desu_> backups all day errday
[08:20] <rsv> TheLordOfTime: Please help me
[08:20] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, not in a reinstall from scratch.  that'd only be an upgrade.
[08:21] <rigo> and sry for the stupid question, but can i install all the "old" softwares what i used on 12.04 to the 12.10?
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> rsv, not sure i can, since i keep backups ;P
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, some you can, some you can't, what old stuff did you need/want?
[08:21] <rsv> any software which scans the hd
[08:21] <rsv> and recovers files
[08:21] <rsv> any such software
[08:21] <rigo> xbmc, tvheadend, and a tiny desktop backup.
[08:21] <rigo> i use now lxde
[08:21] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | rsv
[08:21] <MestreLion> Guys, is it me or youtube is really down???
[08:22] <Jordan_U> rsv: There are photorec and others, but don't expect too much. How important is this data to you?
[08:22] <rsv> Jordan_U: it is my 3 years of work
[08:22] <rigo> and a GOOD ftp client, which i couldnt find 'till now.
[08:22] <stercor> I have a .tar file on a RAM stick. How do I extract it to a directory on my hard drive?
[08:23] <TheLordOfTime> stercor, uhh... on a RAM stick?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> rsv: Then if you're currently booted from said Ubuntu install, shut down now and do the rest of whatever you're going to do from a LiveCD.
[08:23] <stercor> USB drive?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> rsv: And please learn from this and keep good backups in the future.
[08:23] <jt1997> Would anyone be able to guide me through adding a Remote Desktop for Ubuntu 12.10?
[08:23] <rigo> any idee?
[08:23] <rsv> Jordan_U: what do i do now
[08:23] <rigo> jt1997 i use xrdp on 12.04
[08:24] <rigo> i sure hope it works with 12.10
[08:24] <jt1997> I updated to 12.10, and I would like to use the built-in feature.
[08:24] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, it should
[08:24] <Jordan_U> rsv: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[08:24] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, unless its not in the repos, but i think xrdp is.
[08:24] <rigo> xrdp is in
[08:24] <Jordan_U> rsv: First, as a quick check, please run "sudo blkid" and pastebin the output.
[08:24] <rigo> in the 12.04
[08:25] <MestreLion> jt1997: the built-in feature works fine... but it's a vnc server, and for your current session only
[08:25] <jt1997> What do you mean, "for your current session only" ?
[08:25] <rigo> sorry. i tought jt1997 looks for a server.
[08:26] <OerHeks> stercor, copy the file to your harddrive, open terminal:   tar xzvf <filename>.tar.gz
[08:26] <MestreLion> jt1997: it means you can't remotely log in
[08:26] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, its likely in 12.10 too
[08:26] <TheLordOfTime> !info xrdp quantal
[08:26] <TheLordOfTime> rigo, ^  its in quantal.  :)
[08:26] <rigo> gosh. thanks :)
[08:26] <MestreLion> jt1997: you must leave your computer running and logged in for the built-in remote to work