[16:09] <alexbobp> unavailable: Unless you wipe it good, there's still a possibility of relapse if you use data recovery software...
[16:09] <unavailable> rofl
[16:10] <ne2k__> amenado: because packets /can/ be passed when we want them to be.
[16:10] <macrobad> ne2k__: I mean, if the structure was present but not exposed, then the kernel must know it, and respond with the link down or something like that... just a minute
[16:10] <unavailable> alexbobp and one has to make sure all microsoft recovery media is wiped/broken
[16:10] <fgabriel> kriss: sorry... i found it. it needs only to comment the cd-rom entry. thank you.
[16:10] <fo2sh> guys i need a FTP program (like filezilla) any ideas ?
[16:11] <kriss> fo2sh, maybe you can try gftp
[16:11] <kyncani> fo2sh: hmm, filezilla ?
[16:11] <kyncani> fo2sh: (it's available in hardy)
[16:11] <fo2sh> thanks
[16:12] <gaelfx> Rudd-O: still there?
[16:12]  * unavailable thinks of tftp when he hears gftp
[16:12] <legend2440> JuzzyD: did you get it?
[16:12] <Jeruvy> unavailable: not sure why, tftp is stable :)
[16:12] <DarkAudit> my local folder for apt-build packages is at the bottom of my sources.list. Is that why apt is preferring the regular repos over the locally built package of the same version?
[16:13] <Rudd-O> gaelfx: yes, sorry, had to jump somewhere else for a bit
[16:13] <localgod11>  how can I get my nvidia 7200 gs working under ubuntu.  I have tried envy and restricted drivers with no luck (hardy)
[16:18] <gaelfx> localgod11: well, not sure, but you could throw your sig on one of the many petitions for Nvidia to open source its drivers
[16:18] <ross> i have wine installed, now how i can go about getting to work in wine?
[16:18] <ne2k__> amenado: if the ethernet link is down, I know the problem is with the cable or with the power to the device at the other end. if the link is up, I know the problem is /not/ with the cable or the power to the device at the other end -- VERY, VERY USEFUL INFORMATION INDEED -- and the device at the other end may have crashed or otherwise stopped responding.
[16:19] <olleorama> rudd-o; some more guidance would be nice, Ive mounted my ubuntuharddrive and chrooted to it and trying to run grub-install but it cant find my harddrive in chrooted mode?
[16:19] <gaelfx> ross: #wine-hq
[16:19] <DarkAudit> kyncani: nope. Moved the line to the top and adept still sees the precompiled pan as an upgrade :(
[16:19] <npope> hopefully my irc connection wont get hosed again
[16:19] <ross> gaelfx: what is that?
[16:19] <npope> having terrable trouble
[16:19] <localgod11> gaelfx:  already did
[16:19] <ross> gaelfx: what exactly do i have to do?
[16:19] <sidney> salut
[16:19] <gaelfx> sorry, #winehq
[16:20] <ne2k__> amenado: if all I know is that packets are not being received, I do not know whether the problem is with the cable, or the device has crashed. now, tell me again that the information I want is useless.
[16:20] <macrobad> ne2k__: mii-tool is either using the kernel, or deriving this information from the same one you have already. It cannot directly access the hardware. So, it *is* there, and the question is how to fetch it.
[16:20] <localgod11> gaelfx: I was kind of hoping to use this card this year though
[16:20] <fantasticmrfox> Was Ubuntu 7 the last to be based on Lenny?
[16:20] <gaelfx> ross: join the irc channel #winehq the same way you joined this one
[16:20] <fantasticmrfox> and 8 is Sid?
[16:20] <ne2k__> macrobad: yes. I will cross-compile mii-tool. that is the easiest solution now
[16:20] <sarthor> i am i am using ubuntu hardy on 64 bit pc. my webcam is working fine on kopete, but not on gyachi, am i need any extra plugin to run my webcam cam on gyachi? if yes. then please tell me what plugin and how to instll tht. i am new.
[16:20] <gaelfx> localgod11: what do you need the driver for?
[16:20] <kyncani> DarkAudit: how about removing all non-local repos, to see if your local repo is working ?
[16:21] <ross> there is no one htere
[16:21] <localgod11> gaelfx:  compiz and high res
[16:21] <ross> gaelfx: no on eis htere
[16:21] <kyncani> DarkAudit: as a side note, if non-local repos have a more recent version of the packages, they will take precedence over your local repo
[16:21] <gaelfx> ross: ok, go to www.wine-hq.com and find the irc channel there
[16:22] <localgod11> gaelfx:  trying to through a res greater that 1280 and hopefully remove some artifacs that the onbpard was leaving\
[16:22] <gaelfx> ross: sorry again, www.winehq.com
[16:22] <unavailable> #winehq has  178 	Users  but good luck on getting any of them to answer
[16:22] <ross> gaelfx: ah holdon
[16:22] <jpw27_> I just installed Ubuntu via Wubi on an old Windows box, and my screen res is stuck out 800x600.  card is a Matrox Millenium G400, monitor is a Cornea CT1702T
[16:22] <jbroome> !resolution > jpw27_
[16:22] <jpw27_> Windows usually runs at something like 1280x1024 no problem
[16:22] <gaelfx> localgod11: ah, ok, but I've heard that compiz can have ill-effects on your net connection
[16:23] <ne2k__> macrobad: I can't upgrade to 2.6 because I am using a proprietary driver which has not been ported to 2.6. I wonder if the addition to 2.6 which reveals this information to ip (LOWER_UP) has been backported to 2.4? I could upgrade the kernel if so. I see 2.4.36 is out. must be lots of changes since 2.4.30
[16:23] <blood> nçk
[16:23] <C4N> o que
[16:23] <C4N> e ai blood
[16:23] <bartleby> o.o
[16:24] <ne2k__> amenado: I see you have gone rather quiet
[16:24] <gaelfx> localgod11: did you try both the restricted drivers and envy on the same install, or was each on fresh installs?
[16:24] <legend2440> JuzzyD: did you get it to work?
[16:24] <Rudd-O> olleorama: sorry, forgot about something important
[16:24] <bartleby> I think I may be retarded, fellow IRCers
[16:24] <Rudd-O> before the chroot, you need to run cp -R /dev/* /pathtoharddrive/dev/
[16:24] <Rudd-O> and then you can chroot just fine
[16:24] <ne2k__> unavailable: I found #winehq very helpful. but they did insist I upgrade to their repository, saying that the ubuntu version was broken.
[16:24] <ramblex> Is it possible to use ipod touch with software upgrade with ubuntu?
[16:24] <bartleby> for some reason I can no longer hear the sound from any videos, what's going on?
[16:25] <gaelfx> bartleby: I'm not sure that that statement logically makes sense, and that makes me wonder whether it proves your point or refutes it
[16:25] <ne2k__> bartleby: can you hear any other sound? try tapping on your head -- can you hear that? if not, you are deaf.
[16:25] <bartleby> don't be douches
[16:25] <ramblex> bartleby, are you using alsa?
[16:25] <berezovski> #ubuntubr
[16:25] <unavailable> ne2k__: thats because their repository has the latest and greatest whereas ubuntu's has the latest stable
[16:25] <kyncani> bartleby: check the volumes, check again and recheck
[16:25] <gaelfx> bartleby: sorry, I was just kidding...
[16:26] <ne2k__> unavailable: "stable", as in, broken.
[16:26] <unavailable> rofl
[16:26] <localgod11> gaelfx:  same install
[16:26] <bartleby> I did check the volume and everything. it suddenly stopped working on all videos. youtube, google, the works
[16:26] <localgod11> gaelfx: no good?
[16:26] <bartleby> nothin doin
[16:26] <gaelfx> ramblex: not sure, but you could try putting iTunes on through Wine
[16:26] <unavailable> yah they had the "dont come here for help unless youve upgraded to the fixed version" type of attitude
[16:27] <ramblex> gaelfx, itunes is a dog thru WIne :/
[16:27]  * unavailable still wonders why anyone would use such a resource hog like itunes for anything
[16:27] <gaelfx> localgod11: well, when I tried to remove the restricted drivers and then put envy on, it screwed my res, but maybe there was another way for me to fix it
[16:27] <omkar> hi
[16:27] <omkar> people
[16:27] <gaelfx> ramblex: wasn't sure, sorry, but I think that's the easiest way to do it
[16:27] <bartleby> hiya
[16:27] <bartleby> guess no dave chapelle for me
[16:27] <bartleby> ;__;
[16:27] <gaelfx> localgod11: maybe you could edit xorg.conf to get it to offer a diff res
[16:28] <unavailable> bartleby try killall pulseaudio
[16:28] <DarkAudit> the local repository is not being added to my sources.list
[16:28] <Lusule> I'd like to thank everyone for the support in here, I'm really enjoying my Ubuntu experience because of it :)
[16:28] <gaelfx> localgod11: when you used Envy, did it say that the driver would not work for your computer, or what?
[16:28] <omkar> hey people
[16:28] <omkar> i have a bit probs
[16:28] <m11> Lusule: nice to hear :)
[16:28] <omkar> i m on Ubuntu Machine now
[16:28] <gaelfx> Lusule: that's great to hear, even if it wasn't my fault :D
[16:29] <omkar> i have a problem on Fedora System
[16:29] <dennis_> Sind Deutsche da
[16:29]  * kyncani thinks Lusule is being nice because he has something to ask ;)  (just kidding, i hope)
[16:29] <ramblex> omkar, just tell us the problem...
[16:29] <Lusule> *she ;)
[16:29] <gaelfx> omkar: so what's the problem?
[16:29] <omkar> i want to connect to a IRC related to fedora from Ubuntu machine can any one tellme do i have to write #fedora or directly fedora/
[16:29] <dennis_> Hello
[16:29] <omkar> ?
[16:29] <dennis_> Are German´s there
[16:29] <Lusule> and no, nothing to ask.... yet
[16:29] <bazhang> !de
[16:29] <ne2k__> dennis_: here, not there!
[16:29] <localgod11> gaelfx:  no didnt "SAY" anything but on rerboot I got low graphics
[16:30] <bazhang> omkar, /join #fedora
[16:30] <omkar> okay thnks
[16:30] <bono> hi,can anyone tell me i would like to run a text mode ubuntu under a text mode ubuntu
[16:30] <gaelfx> localgo11: like so low res you couldn't view one whole window?
[16:30] <bono> which vm should i use
[16:30] <gaelfx> localgod11: like so low res you couldn't view one whole window?
[16:30] <bono> xen?
[16:30] <bazhang> bono, you want to run vm without x server?
[16:31] <bono> Yes!
[16:31] <bazhang> bono, why
[16:31] <Rudd-O> bono: start the vm in runlevel 3
[16:31] <bono> coz i prefer speeed with x
[16:31] <bono> No
[16:31] <bono> I need the Host as well in text mode
[16:32] <gavi> hey folks im using ubuntu 8.04 and it has stoped automounting usb devices, does anyone have a solution?
[16:32] <bono> coz i prefer speeed "without" x
[16:32] <Shishire> Ok, this is really weird.  I've tried logging in several times, and the only settings that work are failsafe terminal and failsafe gnome.  the others just send me back to the log in screen.
[16:32] <Shishire> Anyone have any idea what causes that?
[16:33] <hateball> Shishire: Try rename your gnome config files, perhaps they're corrupt
[16:33] <Shishire> where are they located?
[16:33] <kyncani> Shishire: look at ~/.xsession-errors
[16:33] <olleorama> rudd-o, I cant install grub on my harddrive since its not present in the chrooted /dev
[16:34] <gaelfx> gavi: can you still mount the drives manually?
[16:34] <causa-prima> hi there! if got a process i kannt kill, even kill -9 doesn't work
[16:34] <gaelfx> gavi: I mean, in terminal or through nautilus?
[16:34] <gavi> i believe so.. i tried with gparted and i can mount
[16:35] <faheem> Hi. Just noticed that http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/ and http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports do rather different things.
[16:35] <Jayzee> Anyone good at mdadm / cfdisk here? I need a few advices on how to setup a RAID5 correctly
[16:35] <gaelfx> gavi: all devices, or is it just one device you're having trouble with?
[16:35] <ne2k__> causa-prima: that is impossible. kill -9 cannot be intercepted. are you sure that the very same pid is being used and that you don't have something that is being respawned by init or something else?
[16:35] <faheem> In my opinion this is a bug. Just wondered if I'm missing something.
[16:35] <kyncani> causa-prima: kill -9 does not work -> reboot ...
[16:35] <bono> it's not possible?@@
[16:35] <gavi> gaelfx,  but i seem to be having delete and cut issues inside nautalis im trying with terminal now as root
[16:36] <muddler> gavi: try typing 'dmesg' into a console just after you've plugged it in
[16:36] <gaelfx> gavi: do you have scim running?
[16:36] <causa-prima> ne2k: how to find out? it's totem, i don't think it respawns itself ;)
[16:36] <sipior> causa-prima: probably just a zombie. doesn't cause any harm (usually), and will go away at next reboot...
[16:36] <gavi> seems to be working fine with root in terminal
[16:36] <causa-prima> kyncani: i really don't like rebooting
[16:36] <gavi> im not sure what a scim is
[16:36] <gavi> but before i try dmesg, must i unmount?
[16:36] <bono> hi,can anyone tell me HowTO,Ii would like to run a text mode debian(VM) under a text mode debian
[16:36] <causa-prima> sipior: oh, it DOAS harm..100%cpu
[16:36] <gaelfx> gavi: haha, then you're probably not running it
[16:36] <muddler> davi: I would
[16:36] <muddler> gavi i mean
[16:36] <kyncani> ne2k__, causa-prima : kill -9 does not work -> process is in uninterruptible sleep -> reboot needed
[16:37] <gaelfx> gavi: I don't think so, but not sure
[16:37] <sipior> causa-prima: could you paste the relevant ps output line?
[16:37] <gaelfx> gavi: have you tried watching the syslog WHILE you plug the device in?
[16:37] <kyncani> causa-prima: you do have permissions to send signals to this process right ? try kill -9 as root (sudo ...)
[16:37] <macrobad> ne2k__: Are you here?
[16:37] <gavi> gaelfx, no i have not
[16:37] <ne2k__> macrobad: yep
[16:38] <gaelfx> gavi: if you do, it might tell you if something is going wrong when you plug in the device
[16:38] <causa-prima> sipior: how? ps <pid>?
[16:38] <unavailable> kyncani ne2k__ causa-prima killall not an option?
[16:38] <sipior> causa-prima: yup
[16:38] <GMFlash> i'm trying to update to the latest version of rubygems on a freshly installed ubuntu 8.04. everything "looks" right but for some reason it isn't updating. anyone know what else i have to do? http://pastie.org/233880
[16:38] <causa-prima> kyncani: i did not start it as root, so i suppose it can't give root-rights to itself..but i'll try it with sudo ;)
[16:38] <ne2k__> causa-prima: ps auwx |grep <process-name>
[16:38] <gaelfx> Rudd-O: so do you know how to switch the video rendering mode in Totem, or no
[16:39] <DarkAudit> I installed build-essential. I installed apt-build, and set it to athlon 64. The setup did NOT add the directory to my sources.list, even when it asked me if I wanted it to. When I did "sudo apt-build install pan", the package downloaded the necessary files to compile the package and started the compile. When it finished all that, it downloaded and installed the package from  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main anyway, as if
[16:39] <faheem> Hi. Just noticed that http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/ and http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports do rather different things. Only the former behaves as I would expect. I think this is a bug,
[16:39]  * bjwebb needs help
[16:39] <causa-prima> 1000     30424 77.8 13.4<PHONE_NUMBER>24 ?       DNl  13:28 200:30 totem file:///media/medien/Medien2/Filme/Neu/Citizen%20Kane%20AC3%20AC3.avi
[16:39] <macrobad> ne2k__: So, I've found out that IFF_LOWER_UP was added in 2.6.17, and IFF_RUNNING - in 2.6.13. See http://lxr.linux.no/linux/include/linux/if.h#L50 for details. Also, there is an interesting desription of those states in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2863#section-3.1.10
[16:39] <gavi> gaelfx, thanks for your help i wish i could give u more attention, however something just came up and i need to go...
[16:39] <gavi> i hope i didnt waste to much of your time
[16:40] <gavi> thanks anyways
[16:40] <kurumin> hi
[16:40] <gaelfx> gavi: it's all good, I didn't really do anything anywho
[16:40] <causa-prima> btw: ctrl + alt +backspace did't work either..
[16:40] <sipior> causa-prima: and sudo kill -9 doesn't work on this guy?
[16:40] <gaelfx> gavi: good luck
[16:40] <ne2k__> faheem: this is not a bug. in HTTP, a directory must end with /
[16:40] <macrobad> ne2k__: In short, it was not in 2.4, and I'm really curious to know how mii-tools did it. Well, still not enough to browse the source :)
[16:40] <kyncani> unavailable, ne2k__, causa-prima : a process stuck in uninterruptible sleep cannot be killed with current linux kernels. Last time i checked lwn, there was a plan to change this. Won't happen this year though
[16:40] <DarkAudit> what's the point of using apt-build if the setup procedures as they currently are mean it will ignore that package you just spen half an hour compiling and go off on it's own and get the remote package?
[16:41] <causa-prima> sipior, nope, doesn't work
[16:41] <Sigiken> Hello, I cant get 3d acceleration, altough the driver is installed
[16:41] <causa-prima> kynaci: that means i HAVE to reboot, no way arround this?
[16:41] <kurumin> hi, i`m froo brazil, like of a help in serve ltsp!
[16:41] <Pici> !br | kurumin
[16:41] <kyncani> causa-prima: yep, D means uninterruptible sleep i think. Live with it because only a reboot will clean it
[16:41] <Shishire> ... still not working.  I've checked my .xsession-errors, and renamed both .gnome2 and uninstalled compiz
[16:41] <gaelfx> Sigiken: it might help if you told us the card you are having issues with
[16:41] <localgod11> gaelfx:  no like 800x600
[16:41] <sipior> causa-prima: yeah, the D state is never a good sign :-) time for a reboot...
[16:42] <Sigiken> Ati x1950pro PCI-E
[16:42] <gaelfx> localgod11: hmm, still pretty crappy though
[16:42] <C4N> hey Pici
[16:42] <Sorlag> ive Problem. If i use shutdown +m -q (which means --quiet) The comp is still beeping! Why is that?
[16:42] <C4N> that para is wrong in Portuguese
[16:42] <kyncani> causa-prima: as long as you have only one process stuck, you can live with it until next reboot. Otherwise, a reboot is needed, unfortunately
[16:42] <causa-prima> kyncani: i cannot live with 100% cpu ;)
[16:42] <gaelfx> localgod11: did you do the restricted driver first and then Envy?
[16:42] <localgod11> gaelfx:  yep i can get 1280 with the onboard but it leaves artifacts when playing vid at that res
[16:42] <C4N> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:42] <Sigiken> Yes
[16:42] <kyncani> causa-prima: a process in D state cannot consume cpu either
[16:42] <C4N> That is correct
[16:42] <localgod11> gaelfx:  nope envy first
[16:42] <causa-prima> sipior: but how did this d stat happen? i mean i do not want it to happen again ;)
[16:42] <sipior> causa-prima: if you start another process, the dead process will no longer be taking up 100% of the cpu
[16:43] <javier_> what player u recommend to see films and you can change the size and location of the subtitles?
[16:43] <gaelfx> localgod11: when you rebooted after envy, did you go into the safe-graphics mode?
[16:43] <Sigiken> oh ehm, I did envyNG before the restriced driver, cause it gave me problems
[16:43] <causa-prima> kyncani: want a screenshot? it DOES..like i said..100% cpu. it's a totem, so i guess it's some sort of indian witch stuff..err..
[16:43] <Shishire> I'm still unable to login to a normal session.  it bumps me back to the login screen.  Any suggestions?
[16:43] <sipior> causa-prima: probably an i/o issue. doubtful it would happen again, but perhaps there was a problem with the file you were attempting to play?
[16:44] <Sigiken>  How do I get in safe-graphics mode?
[16:44] <gregord1> causa-prima: if you check the process state codes, you will find your process is "D    Uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)"
[16:44] <gregord1> causa-prima: see http://isomerica.net/archives/2008/03/22/troubleshooting-defunct-zombie-processes-on-linux/
[16:45] <causa-prima> sipior: i mean, it doesn't take all the 10%, but it takes every little rest left..so about 96-98%
[16:45] <Cyndrework> anyone know best place to buy a .ca domain?
[16:45] <Sigiken> ooh sorry, that was meant tos omeone else :P
[16:45] <Sorlag> ive Problem. If i use shutdown +m -q (which means --quiet) The comp is still beeping! Why is that?
[16:45] <macrobad> ne2k__: And yeah, ip tool has supported it since Source-Version: 20071016-1
[16:45] <kyncani> causa-prima: don't want it to happen again ? Pray to the kernel gods : please kernel gods, fix this issue so that we humble users won't have to suffer again helplessly ... (something like that)
[16:45] <sipior> causa-prima: you already know how to fix it :-)
[16:45] <bjwebb> im having trouble burning a dvd :S
[16:45] <causa-prima> kyncani: you think this will help? ;)
[16:46] <isakey> what are these console command to get info from optical drive and media?
[16:46] <ANDREIdude> does anyoneknow how to change the Network Card MAC?
[16:46] <causa-prima> sipior: yeah..i'll reboot. ;)
[16:46] <bjwebb> i think i can erase it, but i get errors when i try to write - ive tried the default ubuntu one, brassero and k3b, but none of them work
[16:46] <sun01tech> i created a partition with gparted, how do i gain ownership of it, since i am unable to write to it, other than in terminal with sudo
[16:46] <nixnoob> ANDREIdude: i dont think thats possible?
[16:46] <gaelfx> ANDREIdude: I don't think you can do that
[16:46] <Dedi> anyone using a thinkpad fingerscan?
[16:46] <anw> ANDREIdude:  macchanger
[16:46] <nixnoob> i stand corrected
[16:46] <gaelfx> ANDREIdude: but maybe you can spoof it
[16:47] <isakey> what are these console command to get info from optical drive and media?
[16:47] <localgod11> gaelfx: yep it did
[16:47] <Sigiken> THe card of mine is x1950 PRO (PCI-E) sorry
[16:47] <ANDREIdude> anw without the machanger
[16:48] <gaelfx> localgod11: ok, well, try envy again, only this time, when that dialog pops up after reboot, shutdown first and then start up the computer again
[16:48] <ANDREIdude> because i can't connect to the internet without the specified MAC by the ISP
[16:48] <ANDREIdude> from*
[16:48] <gaelfx> localgod11: not saying it's the most perfect fix, or even technically sound, but it worked once for me
[16:48] <nixnoob> anyone know how to configure irssi to automatically join irc.freenode.net change my nick and msg nickserv?
[16:48] <causa-prima> so..thanks to evereyone helping me with this little one. i was just supprised tehre is something you cannot kill ;)
[16:48] <causa-prima> that means: we need bigger weapons than kill -9 ;)
[16:49] <Sorlag> oh comeon you guys how do i shutdown +m without system beep??
[16:49]  * unavailable thinks we need a nuke command
[16:49] <causa-prima> oh yeah ;)
[16:50] <causa-prima> armageddon <pid> or somthing
[16:50] <Sigiken> Could you help me getting my card workign?
[16:50] <unavailable> like nuke -l:p would nuke all processes beginning with the letter p
[16:50] <localgod11> gaelfx:  your saying run envy then reboot when I come up in safe mode?
[16:50] <macrobad> nixnoob: I do
[16:50] <gaelfx> Sorlag: have you tried disabling the system beep?
[16:50] <sipior> Sorlag: the -q switch refers to terminal output, not the system beep
[16:50] <Kardoso> hi all
[16:50] <Sorlag> sipior its still outputting
[16:50] <unavailable> and nuke -l:p -keep   would remember to nuke all further processes that start that begin with the letter p
[16:51] <gaelfx> localgod11: yeah, when envy asks you to reboot, reboot, when the dialog comes up saying "You are about start in safe-graphics mode" or whatever, select shut down
[16:51]  * sipior shrugs
[16:51] <kyncani> causa-prima: there are no more effective weapon than kill -9. That draws the limit between what we can fix in userland and the kernel space where bugs often lead to reboot needed
[16:51] <cet> hey folks, how is everybody? :)
[16:51] <Sorlag> gaelfx no i just want to disable it for shutdown-countdown
[16:51] <sipior> Sorlag: actually, checking the man page, i notice that i don't seem to have a -q switch anyway, so it is not surprising that it would do nothing :-)
[16:52] <gaelfx> Sorlag: you do know that -q means it doesn't display messages, it has nothing to do with actual sounds, right?
[16:52] <causa-prima> kyncani: so reboot is the ultimate wapon..or what? it's like we do the big bang to our RAM
[16:52] <mnuaimat> hi guys
[16:52] <Kardoso> hi
[16:52] <mnuaimat> i have a problem with firefox. it exited unexpectedly without showing any error msg when i open yahoo mail beta, i am on ubuntu 8.04 with firefox 3.0
[16:52] <Sorlag> gaeplex its outputting anyways
[16:52] <Sorlag> damn@damn-desktop:~$ sudo shutdown +5 -q
[16:52] <Sorlag> Broadcast message from damn@damn-desktop
[16:52] <Sorlag> 	(/dev/pts/0) at 17:40 ...
[16:52] <Sorlag> The system is going down for maintenance in 5 minutes!
[16:52] <cet> anyone really good at samba stuff here? i could really need some help..
[16:52] <FloodBot2> Sorlag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <Sorlag> Broadcast message from damn@damn-desktop
[16:52] <Sorlag> 	(/dev/pts/0) at 17:41 ...
[16:52] <kyncani> causa-prima, unavailable : yeah, reboot will kill all processes beginning with letter p, it will also shoot every other process and force-restart the box ;)
[16:52] <sun01tech> couldn't connect with program on phone, tried several things, rebooted and like magic
[16:52] <gaelfx> localgod11: I know that makes no sense, but like I said, it worked once for me, so maybe it will for you too
[16:53] <mnuaimat> sorry -- errrrrr its not beta anymore, its just yahoo mail
[16:53] <isakey> mnuaimat: it happened a lot to me too, dunno why. but not with yahoo sites
[16:53] <unavailable> and finally nuke -p :<pid> -rw random   would nuke kill the process with associated pid then rewrite over the process file with a file full of random digits
[16:53] <nixnoob> anyone know how to configure irssi to automatically join irc.freenode.net change my nick and msg nickserv?
[16:53] <DarkAudit> even with deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main in my sources.list, apt-build will complile fine, then go right ahead and download and install the precompiled binary anyway, totally defeating the point of using apt-build in the first place. Something has gone wrong with setting apt-build up. What is it?
[16:53] <mnuaimat> isakey: any solution or log should we look into ?
[16:53] <Pici> nixnoob: irssi.org has some good tutorials
[16:54] <causa-prima> so, thank you again..i'll jszt reboot. good bye from germany :D
[16:54] <unavailable> ofcourse you would need sudo to use nuke
[16:54] <isakey> mnuaimat: i was said i should look into ~/.xsession-errors (if firefox was launched from quick icon, or shortcut, it log there)
[16:55] <gaelfx> Sorlag: why don't do 'man shutdown'?
[16:55] <unavailable> and possibly a second security measure like "are you sure you want to do this  if so type <a random 16 character hexdec code> at the following prompt
[16:55] <gaelfx> Sorlag: -q is not a valid option for shutdown
[16:55] <XChat> Is there a way to open .rar files in ubuntu? if so can you tell me how? thx in advance
[16:55] <Pici> !rar | XChat
[16:55] <unavailable> xchat sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[16:55] <Sorlag> -q, --quiet                 reduce output to errors only
[16:55] <gaelfx> XChat: use synaptic to add the package 'rar'
[16:55] <kyncani> unavailable: ho no, that would lead to questions like "how can i nuke without being root", just leave the nuke suid so that everyone can nuke anything ... and make it a network protocol, so that i can nuke your box from overseas :)
[16:55] <Sorlag> gaelfx indeed it is
[16:55] <Sorlag> -q, --quiet                 reduce output to errors only
[16:56] <unavailable> rofl
[16:56] <Rudd-O> gaelfx: look in the configuration for totem, I do NOT know how to switch video output method in totem
[16:56] <Pici> Sivam: Where do you see that?
[16:56] <Kardoso> How can I istall a .tar.bz2 install package? I'm starter in Linux. Please help me.
[16:56] <legend2440> JuzzyD: did you get it to work?
[16:56] <Rudd-O> BUT
[16:56] <Pici> Sorlag: Where do you see that?
[16:56] <DarkAudit> deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main is the same priority level as the rest of the repositories. Is that the problem here?
[16:56] <mnuaimat> i have run firefox from command line, there's segmentation fault error, please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/27507/
[16:56] <Sorlag> shutdown --help
[16:56] <kyncani> unavailable: wait a minute, don't they already have these kind of backdoors implemented as trojan on windows ?
[16:56] <Rudd-O> gaelfx: there is a gstreamer options panel in gnome preferences (it is called multimedia I think), look there!
[16:56] <anw> xDDD
[16:56] <Sivam> Kardoso: tar -jxvf
[16:56] <unavailable> kyncani yep :)
[16:57] <mnuaimat> isakey: can you look at the output
[16:57] <infid3l> hi im interested in installed a linux but im wondering if i should install firefox or ubuntu??
[16:57] <Sorlag> both ^^
[16:57] <Rudd-O> infid3l: firefox and ubuntu are orthogonal things
[16:57] <Kardoso> Sivam: Should I type it to Terminal?
[16:57] <unavailable> kyncani remember that you would need super sudo to use nuke as the command could fry your hdd
[16:57] <Sivam> yes
[16:57] <Rudd-O> when you install ubuntu you get firefox for free
[16:57] <isakey> mnuaimat: no, sorry
[16:57] <Kardoso> ok, thx
[16:57] <unavailable> firefox is free
[16:57] <infid3l> oh wow
[16:58] <infid3l> thank you :)~
[16:58]  * unavailable never heard of anyone paying for firefox
[16:58] <gaelfx> Sorlag: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27508/ not on my system
[16:58] <Kardoso> Sivam: Is the dir change command "cd" in Terminal?
[16:58] <Kardoso> or something else?
[16:58] <gaelfx> Rudd-O: thanks man, haha, thought you forgot!
[16:58] <Sorlag> gaelfx ^^
[16:58] <macrobad> Kardoso: yes, it is
[16:58] <Kardoso> Macrobad: thank you
[16:58] <Pici> Sorlag: --help shows it, but not the manpage...
[16:59]  * unavailable also notices the question  "linux:  firefox or ubuntu"  huh?
[16:59] <Sivam> Kardoso: is it working ?
[16:59] <r0pav> i just installed ubuntu and its asking me for my windows xp disc, does it matter which version of sp i have? (thanks in advance)
[16:59]  * anw is confused about this too ...
[16:59] <kevinO> where is the best java runtimes for ubuntu?
[16:59] <mnuaimat> guys, does anyone has a clue why firefox exited when i open my yahoo mail ?? the output of shell is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/27507/
[16:59] <Kardoso> Sivam: I didnt try it, but I will soon.
[16:59] <Sivam> kevinO: java 5 does good now a days
[16:59] <Kardoso> Sivam: thank you
[16:59] <unavailable> firefox is the best os    O_o
[17:00] <JMHP> hi, im stucked trying to configure my ubuntu HH as a PDC with samba.. does someone knows a good link i can check? Thanks =D
[17:00] <unavailable> lol
[17:00] <kevinO> Sivam di i get it right from their website?
[17:00] <anw> xDDD
[17:00] <kevinO> do*
[17:00] <r0pav> 15:59 < r0pav> i just installed ubuntu and its asking me for my windows xp disc, does it matter which version of sp i have? (thanks in advance)
[17:00] <isakey> any software like nero cdspeed2000 to check for quality of dvd burn?
[17:00] <Sivam> kevinO: also u can try for gcj
[17:00] <Sivam> kevinO: if your implementation goes low
[17:00] <Sivam> kevinO: just do
[17:00] <anw> ?? ubuntu is asking for Win disc ??
[17:00] <Pici> !java | kevinO
[17:00] <Sivam> kevinO: apt-get install gcj
[17:00] <daschl> has anyone got cake up and running on IIS without rewrite? .. it doesnt work :(
[17:00] <Sorlag> Pici whats the man page anyways?
[17:00] <r0pav> anw: ya
[17:00] <poningru> r0pav: uhh...
[17:00] <Pici> Sorlag: man shutdown
[17:00] <poningru> thats not ubuntu
[17:01] <poningru> where did you install ubuntu?
[17:01] <poningru> wubi?
[17:01] <poningru> as in inside windows?
[17:01] <Pici> !who | poningru
[17:01] <poningru> or outside it?
[17:01] <r0pav> on my computer?
[17:01] <r0pav> the dvd drive
[17:01] <poningru> as a windows application?
[17:01] <gaelfx> haha, I love Ubuntu, it's the only place where a word like wubi isn't automatically laughed at
[17:01] <JMHP> hi, im stucked trying to configure my ubuntu HH as a PDC with samba.. does someone knows a good link i can check? Thanks =D
[17:01] <r0pav> i put the disc in and it just opened up saying i need win xp disc
[17:01] <blittan> hi, anyone know if there is a way of making a copy (with files) of a directory structure, but I don't actually want to copy the files just wanting empty directories with empty files but using the same structure/names as the original?
[17:02] <poningru> r0pav: did you install ubuntu already?
[17:02] <kyncani> gaelfx: try gutsy gibbon :)
[17:02] <Sorlag> So its not unbeepable after all?
[17:02] <blittan> eg: just create a dummy copy
[17:02] <kyncani> gaelfx: that's some codename
[17:02]  * macrobad has been confused by wubi users so many times that he thinks wubi is evil now
[17:02] <r0pav> it says its the vista version of ubuntu
[17:02] <poningru> Pici: as you can see I had addressed him initially, there was no need unless the traffic was heavy
[17:02] <michael_> hmm whats the best way to get all emails from thunderbird (win) to evolution ?
[17:03] <isakey> vista vesrion of ubuntu? /writes definiton to a note
[17:03] <gaelfx> kyncani: you know, it's the first time I ever heard of a gibbon, and here I thought I knew a lot about animals...Ubuntu really is dedicated to education
[17:03] <poningru> r0pav: where did you get this cd?
[17:03] <Kardoso> Please should me an antivirus software. I know Linux safely from viruses, I just want to clean the infected Windows.
[17:03] <poningru> where did you download it?
[17:03] <Pici> poningru: But other people don't know if you're talking to them.
[17:03] <JoeFool> hello, I currently have Gutsy on my computer. I tried upgrading to Hardy, but my computer restarted halfway through. Now I can only log in with "Failsafe Gnome". Will installing Hardy with the installation disc work?
[17:03] <Pici> Kardoso: clamav is a good one to check out
[17:03] <gaelfx> blittan: did you try to use 'man cp' to see if there is an appropriate option?
[17:03] <macrobad> r0pav: You must have a good grass over there! :)
[17:03] <r0pav> pningru: http://ubuntuvista.on.nimp.org/final_version/ubuntista.iso.tar.gz
[17:03] <poningru> Kardoso: clamv
[17:03] <poningru> Pici: as you saw there was no other traffic
[17:03] <poningru> other than you
[17:03] <Kardoso> Pici: thanks. Is it avaible in Synaptics?
[17:03] <poningru> so its assumed that one is talking to the person
[17:04] <poningru> wtf
[17:04] <Pici> Kardoso: Indeed it is.
[17:04] <kyncani> Kardoso: clamav, klamav with kde, avscan with gnome
[17:04] <JMHP> hi, im stucked trying to configure my ubuntu HH as a PDC with samba.. does someone knows a good link i can check? Thanks =D (or any samba community irc channel/server?)
[17:04] <rambo3> JoeFool, dist-upgrade
[17:04] <Kardoso> Pici: ok, thanks
[17:04] <JoeFool> thanks
[17:04] <shahar> hi
[17:04]  * delcoyote hi
[17:04] <JoeFool> actually
[17:04] <poningru> r0pav: that is not ubuntu
[17:04] <bartmon> omg, don't click r0pavs link
[17:04] <Burnaphatone> If anyone that has experience with partitioning an IDE HD for a dual boot WINXP and Ubuntu, Im having issues getting my primary HD recognized.  Send me a tell please.
[17:04] <macrobad> r0pav: bastard
[17:04] <sami> How to install flash to ubuntu?
[17:04] <poningru> please only download ubuntu from correct places
[17:04] <poningru> !install | r0pav
[17:04] <poningru> that will tell you where to get it from
[17:04] <shahar> i am not able to start apache2 with ssl properly. i get an error SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. any ideas?
[17:05] <bartmon> sami: what do you mean by flash?
[17:05] <rmrr1234> exit
[17:05] <r0pav> oh ok thx
[17:05] <Sigiken> I reinstalled the drivers, also with Envy but I still cant get 3d Acceleration, when I type fglrxinfo it shows me: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[17:05] <r0pav> DCC SEND "llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll" 0 0 0
[17:05] <sami> to be able to see youtube videos
[17:05] <bartmon> sami: adobe's internet platform or flash media?
[17:05] <bartmon> smai: a moment
[17:05] <kyncani> !flash | sami
[17:05] <JoeFool> Thanks
[17:05] <RobertBopkins>  CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME
[17:05] <RobertBopkins> When I installed Linux it asked me for my credit card number. Two days later I got a call from Wachovia asking me if I had purchased $400 worth of Totino's pizza rolls and Mountain Dew (I hadn't). Let this be a warning to all of you out there in the Internet.
[17:05] <poningru> woah woah
[17:05] <poningru> why the name calling
[17:06] <sami> bartmon: thanks
[17:06] <jbroome> RobertBopkins: doofus
[17:06] <bartmon> sami: shortest way is to execute "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[17:06] <gaelfx> jbroome: he means he ordered $600 dollars worth
[17:06] <isakey> RobertBopkins: lol
[17:06] <RobertBopkins> im serious people
[17:06] <Sigiken> Can somebody please help me with installing my video card, i'm desperate
[17:06] <RobertBopkins> i need some help
[17:07] <shahar> i don't have apache2-ssl-certificate
[17:07] <RobertBopkins> thats 400 dollars i dont have
[17:07] <sami> great! it works! thank you!
[17:07] <isakey> RobertBopkins: see a doctor
[17:07] <RobertBopkins> due to ubuntu
[17:07] <jussi01> RobertBopkins: please dont
[17:07] <JMHP> hi, im stucked trying to configure my ubuntu HH as a PDC with samba.. does someone knows a good link i can check?  I have tried configuring in bios, to no avail...
[17:09] <matchius> jest tu ktos z polski?;d
[17:09] <darkarchon> does anyone know how i run itunes on wifi on ubuntu?
[17:09] <bartmon> !pl > matchius
[17:09] <gaelfx> Burnaphatone: what do you mean identifying?
[17:09] <genii> !pl | matchius
[17:09] <isleshocky78> I upgrade my kubuntu 8.04 install to use kde4.1 (kde4.0.98). Now when I boot the computer I get a alert window saying "Cannot open theme file @@@ToBeReplaceByDesktopBase@@@". I then get the command line prompt to login. If I login and run startx then kde runs fine. Any idea on the error?
[17:10] <bartmon> !kubuntu > isleshocky78
[17:10] <kyncani> Burnaphatone: basically, if you're using the latest hardy and it does not see your disk, then you're outta luck. You may try a more recent distro though, like intrepid
[17:10] <Burnaphatone> gaelfx: when I have my external hd turned on during installation, it finds that drive fine for a place to partition
[17:10] <poningru> isleshocky78: you must know that kde4 is experimental
[17:10] <Kardoso> !xubuntu > Kardoso
[17:10] <Kardoso> ok
[17:10] <Sigiken> do you know how to fix it?
[17:10] <bartmon> Sigiken: do you know which drivers your video card is using?
[17:10] <poningru> for more help #kubuntu
[17:10] <isleshocky78> poningru: Yes, I know that.
[17:10] <isleshocky78> Just wondering if anyone knew if there was a simple fix to this.
[17:11] <EnMasse187> how do i check my ROUTER ASSIGNED UP like the <IP_ADDRESS> one?
[17:11]  * unavailable wonders why anyone would be naive enough to enter their credit card info anywhere and not expect to get charged
[17:11] <poningru> oh sorry no
[17:11] <poningru> try #kubuntu though
[17:11] <Sigiken> first I installed the restricted drivers and afterward the 8.4 drivers from envyNG, but when I check on my terminal it says this: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[17:11] <Sigiken> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[17:11] <gaelfx> Burnaphatone: ok, sorry, I don't think I can help
[17:11] <Kardoso> !kubuntu > Kardoso
[17:11] <isleshocky78> poningru: Thank you. Doing that now.
[17:12] <poningru> EnMasse187: right click on networkmanager icon and click on connection info
[17:12] <poningru> or ifconfig on a terminal
[17:12] <bartmon> Sigiken: That's no good. You should reinstall the restricted drivers.ž
[17:12] <EnMasse187> kk
[17:12] <gaelfx> Sigiken: I installed restricted drivers then with Envy as well, when I did a fresh install and only used Envy, it worked fine for me
[17:12] <dennis_> error: could not create '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ccm': Permission denied
[17:12] <dennis_> what is that means
[17:12] <cygoku> About Medibuntu repo, is it down for ever or what ?
[17:12] <Sigiken> so ehm, how do I reinstall those drivers?
[17:13] <kevinO> it means you do not have permissions
[17:13] <gaelfx> dennis_: you need to do it with sudo before the command
[17:13] <zouhair> dennda:   you are trying to access a file as simple user
[17:13] <red22> Slart: you still around?
[17:13] <gaelfx> !sudo
[17:13] <bartmon> dennis_: you don't have permission to write to that location You need to have root priviledges for that.
[17:13] <dennis_> can you tell me the set
[17:13] <bartmon> dennis_: try prepending sudo to your command
[17:14] <bartmon> dennis_:  sudo <your command>
[17:14] <dennis_> i am using Dr.Phyton
[17:14] <dennis_> how this works
[17:15] <gaelfx> !sudo | dennis_
[17:15] <kevinO> Pici that link you sent me to is giving me problems, when it tells me todo this sudo update-java-alternatives -l >>>> java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[17:15] <jpw27_> OK I've tried everything on the FixVideoResolutionHowto page that I thought was applicable to me, and I'm still stuck at 800x600
[17:16] <kevinO> Pici then this sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-5-bin >>>>update-java-alternatives: directory does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-5-bin
[17:16] <jpw27_> my xorg.conf is here if it would be helpful http://rafb.net/p/XztD7f16.html http://rafb.net/p/XztD7f16.html
[17:16] <shahar> i can browse on http://<IP_ADDRESS>:443 but not on https://<IP_ADDRESS>
[17:16] <Sigiken> could it be because I've written Option: NoDRI in xorg? i did this because I couldnt get into my desktop, it always froze after installing the drivers
[17:16] <sarthor> i am i am using ubuntu hardy on 64 bit pc. my webcam is working fine on kopete, but not on gyachi, am i need any extra plugin to run my webcam cam on gyachi? if yes. then please tell me what plugin and how to instll tht. i am new.
[17:16] <unclemike> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic_2.6.24-19.34_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[17:16] <gaelfx> jpw27_: did you install Envy or restricted drivers?
[17:16] <bartmon> dennis_: what are you trying to do with DrPython?
[17:17] <dennis_> Install Emrald Theme Manager
[17:17] <Pici> kevinO: I think you need to use java-1.5.0-sun as your argument, not java-5-bin
[17:17] <jpw27_> gaelfx: I tried to install Matrox's drivers for my card (G400) but the installer throws "This version of X not supported"
[17:17] <kevinO> oh
[17:18] <jpw27_> gaelfx: I can try Envy
[17:18] <gaelfx> jpw27_: ah, sorry, got no experience with the Matrox thing
[17:18] <linuxkrn> is there a live cd with dmraid already loaded?
[17:18] <jpw27_> gaelfx: yeah, there drivers are 2 years old, and building them from source requires the xorg-server package, which doesn't exist any more, I'm pretty sure
[17:19] <gaelfx> jpw27_: everything exists somewhere ;) even that old epic pinball game...
[17:19] <kdeuser^> when I give vga=791 in the kernel parameter, I don`t see anything in the virtual console
[17:19] <JoeFool> hi, I'm back again.
[17:19] <kdeuser^> But in debian I am able to see virtual consoles
[17:19] <jpw27_> gaelfx: yeah xorg-server has a page on Launchpad, I may try to build it or something
[17:19] <kdeuser^> what is the probelm
[17:20] <JoeFool> I tried "dist-upgrade", it said "bash: dist-upgrade command not found"
[17:20] <macrobad> dennis_: Why don't you just 'sudo apt-get install emerald'?
[17:20] <kevinO> Pici that didnt work either
[17:20] <gaelfx> jpw27_: well, I hope it works, and if it does you should def throw a howto on the forums or something like that
[17:21] <genii> JoeFool: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:21] <kevinO> java -verrion still reports java version "1.5.0_15"
[17:21] <macrobad> kdeuser^: Just a wild guess, try to enter the number in hex! ;)
[17:21] <jpw27_> gaelfx: There's a few things floating around on the forums about Matrox cards, but nothing that helpful.  If I can hack together a solution I'll definitely do a writeup of it
[17:22] <Pici> kevinO: What are you expecting it to say?
[17:22] <lucas_> hello there, i need some help... I have an intel gma x3100 and cant enable desktop effects in two users at the same time... how do i do that?
[17:22] <Rudd-O> there was a DOS game called pinball
[17:22] <Rudd-O> pinball.exe
[17:22] <Rudd-O> it was AWESOME
[17:22] <gaelfx> jpw27_: haha, wish I could help
[17:22] <Rudd-O> gameplay was as realistic as hell
[17:22] <JoeFool> genii: I tried that, it says something about dpkg being interrupted, I run the dpkg command, and it stays at one part for a long time
[17:22] <shahar> ok.. can anyone please help me with getting ssl to work with ubuntu's apache ?
[17:22] <Rudd-O> does someone have it?
[17:22] <gaelfx> Rudd-O: but was it as good as the Android table of Epic Pinball?
[17:22] <LSD|Ninja> Rudd-O: epic pinball?
[17:22] <jpw27_> gaelfx: no problem, I'm just using this computer temporarily anyway
[17:22] <Rudd-O> JoeFool: strace the pid of the dpkg command with the -ff option
[17:22] <XChat> I've installed compiz fusion but where do I activate it now?
[17:22] <Pici> Rudd-O: This channel is only for Ubuntu support and not for Windows software or software piracy, please take this elsewhere.
[17:22] <Rudd-O> gaelfx: EPIC PINBALL, THAT IS THE NAME
[17:22] <Rudd-O> thaaaaaaaaaaanks man!
[17:22] <JoeFool> sorry, what?
[17:23] <gaelfx> Rudd-O: you can still buy it, but it's $20! how lame?
[17:23] <Rudd-O> Pici: sorry, I'm not discussing *piracy*, I am discussing where to get that software to run under DOSBOX in my beloved Ubuntu installation
[17:23] <LSD|Ninja> Rudd-O: I have it somewhere I think
[17:23] <hunter_> hi
[17:23] <hunter_> hello
[17:23] <gaelfx> Rudd-O: you would think that it would be free by now
[17:23] <Pici> Rudd-O: If you dont have the software itself, we can't help you.
[17:23] <LSD|Ninja> Rudd-O: better move this ofer to -office before Puci asks us to leave
[17:23] <macrobad> !hi | hunter_
[17:23] <XChat> can someone tell me how to turn Compiz-fusion on?
[17:23] <LSD|Ninja> offtopic*
[17:24]  * pestilence bangs head on desk...
[17:24] <gaelfx> XChat: Preferences->Appearances
[17:24] <macrobad> XChat: System -> Parameters -> Appearance
[17:24] <legend2440> jpw27_: do you have     xserver-xorg-video-mga in synaptic installed?
[17:24] <JoeFool> "strace the pid of the dpkg command with the -ff option" what does that mean??
[17:24] <Rudd-O> XChat: preferences ->appearance
[17:24] <Pici> kevinO: Is it because it reports Java 1.5 instead of Java 5 ?
[17:24] <XChat> k thx all
[17:24] <hunter_> is this the  ubantu chatroom?
[17:24] <Rudd-O> JoeFool: strace lets you know where it is stuck.  if you run strace -ff dpkg --whateveroptions you have ran, you can see what it is doing behind the scenes
[17:24]  * Richwn joins #ubantu
[17:24] <genii> hunter_: It's the ubuntu support channel
[17:24] <gaelfx> hunter_: Ubuntu chatroom, yes
[17:24] <kevinO> Pici yeah
[17:24] <Pici> hunter_: This is the Ubuntu Support Channel, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:24] <Rudd-O> I suggest you run strace -ff -e trace=file to limit yourself to file accesses monitoring
[17:25] <hunter_> ok
[17:25] <Pici> kevinO: Java 1.5 is the same thing as Java 5
[17:25] <hunter_> i have a problem
[17:25] <JoeFool> thanks so much
[17:25] <Pici> kevinO: Sun's stupid naming convention.
[17:25] <jpw27_> legend2440: yeah
[17:25] <fo2sh> guys..i wanna reset the "root" password...any help! :(
[17:25] <kevinO> Pici ok, thanks :)
[17:25]  * genii sighs
[17:25] <LSD|Ninja> fo2sh: you don't need the root account, ubuntu disables it
[17:25] <be-pola1> way
[17:25] <genii> !root
[17:25] <JoeFool> if that doesn't work, will installing with the disc do it?
[17:25] <bartmon> LSD|Ninja: so not true
[17:26] <gaelfx> omg, ubottu is hilarious
[17:26] <hunter_> today i compiled the kernel , and it sucess ,but when i boot my computer , it say file not found
[17:26] <LSD|Ninja> bartmon: what is?
[17:27] <kdeuser^> macrobad: what will its value be in hex ?
[17:27] <hunter_> today i compiled the kernel , and it sucess ,but when i boot my computer , it say file not found
[17:27] <lfr453> s
[17:27] <jpw27_> * goes off to try yet another xorg.conf
[17:27] <hunter_> anybody know that?
[17:27] <bartmon> LSD|Ninja: that ubuntu disables the root account
[17:27] <kdeuser^> macrobad:why enter in hex I mean ?
[17:27] <LSD|Ninja> bartmon: they've changed that? Last time I bothered to check they did
[17:27] <fo2sh> well...i wanna extract a compressed file but i don't have the right permission :( ( i'm new to linux )
[17:28] <hunter_> su root?
[17:28] <genii> gah
[17:28] <jussi01> !supportroot
[17:28] <Xavura> !sudo | fo2sh
[17:29] <hunter_> i want to know the way to compile the kernel
[17:29] <jussi01> hunter_: whats the exact error?
[17:29] <LSD|Ninja> anything you need the root account for in general use can usually be handled with sudo, enabling it serves no real purpose other than extending your e you-know-what
[17:30] <Rudd-O> hunter_: it's not difficult
[17:30] <legend2440> JuzzyD: did you get it to work?
[17:30] <jussi01> !kernel | hunter_
[17:30] <genii> jussi01: Heh beat me to it
[17:30] <jussi01> :D
[17:30] <olleorama> Hello, still trying to recover my grub, anybody willing to help? Rudd-o?
[17:30] <Rudd-O> olleorama: can you tell me what grub-install says?
[17:30] <Rudd-O> I need to know that
[17:31] <hunter_> rudd,but when i boot my computer from my new kernel,it say that files not found
[17:31] <gaelfx> good night everyone
[17:31] <raphael_burnes> what would be the first thing to look at if you have a server that just appears to power off by itself - every 2-3 days. I've changed everything on the computer except the hard drive - there are no errors in dmesg, /var/log/messages, kern.log. I've run rkhunter and came back all green
[17:31] <olleorama> rudd-o, wait 1 minute
[17:31] <raphael_burnes> it just seems to power itself off at random intervals
[17:31] <Rudd-O> olleorama: np
[17:31] <macrobad> kdeuser^: http://lxr.linux.no/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
[17:32] <hunter_> i just compile linux kernel is 2.6.26 version
[17:32] <jussi01> hunter_: have you updated grub?
[17:32] <zippytech> how  can i mount an ntfs drive the was not shut down properly
[17:32] <be-pola1> hunter_: did you compile your kernel with support for your filesystem?
[17:32] <bartmon> LSD|Ninja: the root account it is definitely there. You enter the password for it just before installing the system
[17:32] <macrobad> kdeuser^: because it is suggested in the docs
[17:33] <cygoku> About Medibuntu repo, is it down for ever or what ?
[17:33] <olleorama> rudd-o; /dev/sda1: Not found or not a block device.
[17:33] <wols> !root | bartmon
[17:33] <Lusule> anyone else having issues connecting to gnome-look.org?
[17:33] <zod21> zippytech plug it back into windows and unmount it from windows and then plug it into linuxx and it willy work
[17:33] <hunter_> title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.26
[17:33] <hunter_> root (hd0,6)
[17:33] <hunter_> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26 root=UUID=7ee08194-b879-42a3-b480-384d90b2a2d2 ro quiet splash locale=zh_CN
[17:33] <hunter_> initrd /initrd.img-2.6.26
[17:33] <hunter_> savedefault
[17:33] <FloodBot1> hunter_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <olleorama> rudd-o, shpuld be in hdx,x format?
[17:33] <hunter_> boot
[17:33] <zippytech> lol not that simple don
[17:33] <zippytech> t have xp box
[17:33] <zod21> zippytech plug it back into windows and unmount it from windows and then plug it into linuxx and it wil work
[17:33] <LSD|Ninja> bartmon: I've never been prompted for a root password on any of the ubuntu installs I've done - even with those godawful alternate cds. Last time I went to use the root account I had to jump through all kinds of hoops to enable it
[17:34] <macrobad> bartmon: Are you confusing the wheel (admin's group) and the root?
[17:34] <legend2440> Lusule: semms to be down at the moment
[17:34] <Sigiken> without luck, it crashed my system again, just when it's reaching the loginscreen
[17:34] <Lusule> :( i want to make my panel look nicer
[17:34] <zippytech> it's an external  drive that was give to me to remove file from
[17:34] <mahidhar> just now i installed ubuntu n i m not able 2 hear songs through net..........
[17:34] <zippytech> i only have linux boxes
[17:34] <bartmon> wols: I'm not that noobish. I've disabled the use of sudo for regular users because some use lame passwords and log in via ssh so i don't want someone to destroy the system just because of  a lame password
[17:34] <zod21> ok well you need to do it from the command line
[17:35] <Chousuke> if you ask me sudo makes more sense for a desktop than a separate root account.
[17:35] <zod21> zippytech join me in my chat type /join ubuntu2108
[17:35] <DarkRainbow> Im trying to install Windows 98 instead of Ubuntu, but when i puts the CD in the drive, and selects to boot from CD(from BIOS splash), Ubuntu loads up. How to boot from Win98?
[17:35] <Rudd-O> zod21 you forgot the # sign
[17:35] <LSD|Ninja> Chousuke: exactly and Ubuntu is primarily aimed at the desktop
[17:35] <wols> bartmon: that has nothing to do with root password. there isn't one set in ubuntu, ever
[17:35] <Sigiken> can someone help me with my videocard, If I use the driver, ubuntu crashes after the bootscreen
[17:35] <zod21> it doesnt need to be there
[17:35] <hunter_> i follow the way which i find from internet
[17:35] <zod21> it still works
[17:35] <wols> bartmon: so I kinda disagree about your noobish part
[17:35] <hunter_> but i boot it error
[17:35] <Rudd-O> DarkRainbow: change the bios in the config, do not use the boot selector in the splash
[17:36] <dr_dasos> DarkRainbow, i think you have to push a button to boot from the cd
[17:36] <hunter_> maybe my menu.lst is error
[17:36] <Chousuke> in practice neither are really secure in the hands of ignorant users, but sudo at least simplifies things from the end user perspective and promotes the good practice of not running as root :P
[17:36] <Rudd-O> dr_dasos: he is doing that precisely
[17:36] <olleorama> Rudd-O; it says it can't find it or it's not a block device
[17:36] <Rudd-O> you could in theory also add a grub entry for the cd
[17:36] <LSD|Ninja> Chousuke: PolicyKit is annoying as all hell though - even more so than UAC in Vista
[17:36] <Rudd-O> can you do ls -la /dev/sda*
[17:36] <DarkRainbow> Rudd-o: What do you mean?
[17:36] <bartmon> wols: well i've set mine to something so... ?
[17:36] <dr_dasos> Rudd-O, maybe i'm not understanding, iirc windows boot CDs always make you push enter/space/f8 to get it started
[17:36] <Chousuke> LSD|Ninja: What's wrong with it?
[17:37] <Rudd-O> oh, eh, you are right
[17:37] <mahidhar> just now i installed ubuntu n i m not able 2 hear songs through net..........
[17:37] <wols> bartmon: that's your business do not tell people in #ubuntu to do the same
[17:37] <Rudd-O> DarkRainbow: enter the bios intead of selecting a boot device in the bios
[17:37] <Chousuke> LSD|Ninja: if you have specific problems, you can always suggest a solution :)
[17:37] <LSD|Ninja> Chousuke: unlike sudo, there doesn't appear to be any timeout on it so you're continually entering your password to unlock stuff
[17:37] <Rudd-O> mahidhar:  what programare you trying to use to play music back?
[17:37] <olleorama> rudd-o, non-existent in the mounted and chrooted partition
[17:37] <Chousuke> LSD|Ninja: hmm
[17:37] <hunter_> ok, it can listen to the radio
[17:37] <Sigiken> can someone help me with my videocard, If I use the driver, ubuntu crashes after the bootscreen, I've installed it with the propriarity driver, EnvyNG and the restricted driver, I have the radeon x1950pro (pci-e) video card
[17:37] <Tophat> why is it such a pain in the buttocks to get stupid DVDs to work properly?
[17:38] <Rudd-O> olleorama: I already told you to cp -R /dev/* /mountedpartition/dev
[17:38] <DarkRainbow> Rudd-o: K Im inside Bios Setup, but what do do now?
[17:38] <hunter_> can listen to radio from net
[17:38] <Chousuke> LSD|Ninja: that's a valid complaint
[17:38] <Rudd-O> that will make your dev files appear in the mounted partition
[17:38] <mahidhar> Rudd-O, www.ragalahari.com
[17:38] <brainsrnme> If I have 2 Ubuntu desktops sharing the same wired router to get to the internet, how do I transfer files from one to the other?
[17:38] <olleorama> rudd-O, sorry missed that part!
[17:38] <LSD|Ninja> Tophat: install the medibuntu stuff
[17:38] <hunter_> title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.26
[17:38] <hunter_> root (hd0,6)
[17:38] <hunter_> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26 root=UUID=7ee08194-b879-42a3-b480-384d90b2a2d2 ro quiet splash locale=zh_CN
[17:38] <hunter_> initrd /initrd.img-2.6.26
[17:38] <hunter_> savedefault
[17:38] <FloodBot1> hunter_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:38] <hunter_> boot
[17:38] <cygoku> About Medibuntu repo, is it down for ever or what ?
[17:38] <Chousuke> LSD|Ninja: the best though would be to bring the number of situations where root is needed to a minimum :)
[17:38] <mahidhar> Rudd-O, it is the site 2 listen songs
[17:38] <bartmon> wols: i never told anyone to do that.
[17:38] <Rudd-O> Sigiken: remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or move it ssomewhere else, and then boot again
[17:38] <Tophat> ninja - yeah its gots that all done, but damn what a journey its been.
[17:38] <zod21> sigiken you dont need a video card for linux, it will work without the driver, you just might not be able to use the cool effects
[17:38] <Rudd-O> mahidhar: what site?
[17:38] <DarkRainbow> Rudd-o: What to do inside BIOS Setup?
[17:38] <Chousuke> LSD|Ninja: policykit is still fairly new tech, too.
[17:39] <Rudd-O> there are MILLIONS of sites
[17:39] <Sigiken> yeah I know, but i like gaming :)
[17:39] <zod21> but if you use linux for effects you have no clue
[17:39] <Rudd-O> DarkRainbow: go into advanced setup and select the boot device, that is generally like that in amibioses and award bioses, or go into boot options menu
[17:39] <hunter_> flood? what that mean?
[17:39] <wols> bartmon: ewll you said ubuntu asks you for the password. that's at least false. and I corrected it. so please stop now
[17:39] <mahidhar> Rudd-O, ragalahari.com
[17:39] <Rudd-O> and look for the boot device, and select cd-dvd
[17:39] <LSD|Ninja> Chousuke: Does it have any capability to offer something like the 5 minute timeout that gets put on sudo logins?
[17:39] <zod21> hahaha well go back to windows
[17:39] <Chousuke> LSD|Ninja: I don't know
[17:39] <Myrtti> !paste | hunter_
[17:39] <Rudd-O> mahidhar: does it use flash or an embedded media player?  what does the site tell you?
[17:39] <michael_> uh... i can simply import from thunderbird to evolution with drag'n'drop ... nice to know
[17:39] <Chousuke> LSD|Ninja: if it doesn't, then someone should add such a capability.
[17:39] <Chousuke> :P
[17:39] <zod21> thats all i can say for ya, unless you have a badass nvidia and a sweet box, linux gaming is impossible
[17:40] <Rudd-O> michael_: that is an amazing discovery!
[17:40] <DarkRainbow> Rudd-O: Now ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVE is on the top of "Boot device priority"
[17:40] <michael_> it is :-)
[17:40] <mahidhar> Rudd-O, it ll play only realmedia player in windows
[17:40] <bastid_raZor> zod21; nice of you to notice my system.. ;)
[17:40] <Rudd-O> on the top?
[17:40] <Rudd-O> mahidhar: you need to install the vlc browser plugin
[17:40] <zod21> bastid_raZor huh
[17:40] <Sigiken> how do I remove it, it wont let me
[17:40] <mahidhar> where can i found it
[17:41] <Rudd-O> DarkRainbow: and when you boot, what message appears before grub?  or maybe I can suggest to you that the win98 cd is not bootable?  because mine weren't, I was supposed to use a boot floppy
[17:41] <mahidhar> Rudd-O, where can i found it ?/
[17:41] <DarkRainbow> no message
[17:41] <DarkRainbow> Just that Grub-stuff
[17:41] <zod21> sigiken, did you get it from add or remove, if not just reboot
[17:41] <Rudd-O> Sigiken: enter in recovery mode and then you can rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and continue the boot process with telinit 4
[17:41] <Rudd-O> sorry
[17:41] <Rudd-O> telinit 5
[17:41] <Rudd-O> that's a five
[17:41] <kaushal> dmesg
[17:41] <FloodBot1> Rudd-O: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <ikonia> Rudd-O: no, it's 3 on ubuntu
[17:41] <brainsrnme> how hard is it to make an ubuntu network to transfer files?
[17:41] <ikonia> Rudd-O: upstart doesn't use run level 5
[17:42] <Rudd-O> ikonia: sure?  I have been doing telinit 5 for ages and it works just fine
[17:42] <kaushal> dmesg u there
[17:42] <Rudd-O> yes, hardy over here
[17:42] <ikonia> Rudd-O: sure, upstart runs to run level 2
[17:42] <Sigiken> what's telinit 4?
[17:42] <Rudd-O> sigiken telinit 3 is a command that tells your linux system to boot normally after you are done with the recovery console
[17:42] <DarkRainbow> Rudd-O: It doesnt work:(
[17:42] <hunter_> ok, i know ,thx ,ubottu
[17:42] <Rudd-O> DarkRainbow: may I suggest a boot floppy then?
[17:42] <bartmon> wols: are you sure? I kinda remeber the livecd doing so... I'll check on another PC
[17:43] <Sigiken> hmm :) thx, well ima gonna do this, and if you see me again, then it didnt work, if not Thank you verry much! :)
[17:43] <DarkRainbow> Rudd-O: How do i get one?
[17:43] <DarkRainbow> :S
[17:43] <Rudd-O> I can share one with you
[17:43] <Rudd-O> msdos
[17:43] <zod21> haha, ok man, well my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:43] <zod21> sigiken
[17:43] <Rudd-O> or the win 98 boot disk with msdos and cd drivers
[17:44] <Slart> red22: back again.. did you find anything? I've been googling but all I've found are the LC_COLLATE setting
[17:44] <Slart> red22: also, using the -v switch for ls gives me some results..
[17:45] <Slart> red22: but nothing that will place _file before Afile
[17:45] <vargadanis> hi there... can sb. help me setting up aoache with fastcgi?
[17:45] <m11> gparted failing to resize ntfs partition on amd64 LiveCD any tips how to install on it ?
[17:45] <ikonia> vargadanis: just need the libapache2-mod-fastcgi package
[17:46] <olleorama> rudd-O; sorry to be bothering you, but I've run the grub-install now, and looking at the /boot/grub/devices.map right now, and all I can see is hd0  /dev/sda
[17:46] <ensi> how do i change the time and date? i try running time-admin and it says i dont have the permission for it. so i try "sudo time-admin" and i get "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: bla bla bla"
[17:46] <vargadanis> ikonia... I have it installed but I don't know the next steps
[17:46] <vargadanis> how do I get my app run?
[17:46] <kjshfd>  /s Abjects
[17:46] <ikonia> vargadanis: well it should be enabled, so just drop it into the cgi-bin
[17:46] <vargadanis> i ge internal server errors
[17:46] <Sigiken> hey, what do I do next, i removed the xorg.conf file
[17:47] <mahidhar> full form of GRUB
[17:47] <SOVENOK> всем привет!
[17:47] <ikonia> !ru | SOVENOK
[17:47] <vargadanis> ikonia... couldn't I run it by extension? eg: cex should be run as fsatcgi
[17:47] <trakinas> !cyrilic
[17:47] <vargadanis> cause I don't want to have a cgi-bin dir
[17:48] <Rudd-O> olleorama: that is correct
[17:48] <ikonia> vargadanis: why ? whats the problem with a cgi-bin dir ?
[17:48] <Rudd-O>  /dev/sda should be your first hard disk
[17:48] <bartmon> Sigiken: log out and log in again. But i hope you backued up the xorg.conf file
[17:48] <KaiForce> anyone having Nautilus memory leaks since last update?
[17:48] <ikonia> KaiForce: nope
[17:48] <Sigiken> no I just deleted it?
[17:48] <oranger> hi . when i try configure source then stop with ..' make: invalid option -- 1 ' ?? what can be the problem?
[17:48] <ikonia> oranger: why are you running make
[17:48] <vargadanis> nothing really I just don't like it
[17:48] <ikonia> oranger: thats not configure
[17:48] <oranger> no
[17:48] <ikonia> oranger: what are you trying to build
[17:49] <oranger> everything same problem
[17:49] <ikonia> vargadanis: check out the docs for it, I dont know if you can call it as an application/how to
[17:49] <oranger> i read build.log
[17:49] <vargadanis> ok...
[17:49] <ikonia> oranger: 1.) why are you running make - thats not configuring software 2.) what are you trying to build
[17:49] <oranger> ikonia i use ./configure
[17:49] <ikonia> oranger: what are you trying to make
[17:49] <oranger> i got it in the build.log
[17:50] <ikonia> oranger: what are you trying to make
[17:50] <olleorama> rudd-o, but shouldn't it be pointing to something more specific, i.e. hd0,0 or wherever my ubuntu partition is?
[17:50] <oranger> everything sources same problem
[17:50] <genii> ikonia: It's like pulling teeth
[17:50] <ikonia> oranger: what are you trying to make
[17:50] <oranger> everything sources same problem
[17:50] <ikonia> oranger: what are you trying to make
[17:50] <oranger> ikonia all packet i try compile same problem
[17:50] <ikonia> oranger: what are you trying to make
[17:50] <ikonia> oranger: give me an example
[17:50] <macrobad> :)
[17:50] <olleorama> or is this location just the location of the bootloader?
[17:51] <trakinas> oranger: have you installed the headers?
[17:51] <oranger> this case libtiff
[17:51] <Rudd-O> olleorama: devices.map only lists the hard disks
[17:51] <ikonia> oranger: please put the output of "env" into a pastbin
[17:51] <ikonia> oranger: libtiff is in the repo's - you don't need to build it
[17:51] <oranger> but same with make too
[17:51] <hunter_> bye,everyone, i have to go to bed
[17:51] <Rudd-O> the detailed configuration is in grub.conf
[17:51] <oranger> ok
[17:51] <Rudd-O> or menu.lst
[17:51] <ikonia> oranger: you can drag it out of the ubuntu packagfe manager
[17:51] <olleorama> aha
[17:51] <Rudd-O> cya hunter_
[17:51] <pgold> Hey guys... does any of you know how to make Ubuntu GNOME sound control work?
[17:51] <oranger> yeah i know
[17:51] <Rudd-O> pgold: whaddya mean?
[17:51] <oranger> but that not a problem
[17:51] <ikonia> oranger: so why are you trying to make it ?
[17:51] <olleorama> rudd-o, but how do I go about to make grub load my partitions correctly?
[17:51] <mbrigdan> how would I create a file so that it is "binary" and coudn't be read with gedit?
[17:52] <ikonia> oranger: that is a problem your trying to build a software package that will potentially break your package managers dependency for no reason -
[17:52] <pgold> Rudd-O: I click mute, and it wont mute
[17:52] <Sigiken> what should I do now, the file is deleted, i've logged in and out
[17:52] <Rudd-O> olleorama: grub only needs the bootsector installed with grub-install.
[17:52] <oranger> have to port some sources not in the repository
[17:52] <ikonia> oranger: libtiff is in the repo - it's there
[17:52] <Rudd-O> pgold: rightclick on the vol control, and select "selet master channel" then select PCM
[17:52] <oranger> yeah but that just an example and test
[17:52] <raphael_burnes> what is the best way to do a complete disk clone - including boot sectors, etc from one disk to another?
[17:52] <[gnubie]> anyone encounter a "Permission denied (keyboard-interactive)." when trying to ssh to a remote server? why is this happening?
[17:52] <Rudd-O> olleorama: the rest is up to menu.lst in /boot/grub
[17:52] <genii> raphael_burnes: dd
[17:52] <Rudd-O> [gnubie]: wrong password
[17:53] <Hansadeemon> hey
[17:53] <ikonia> oranger: put the output of env in a pastebin please.
[17:53] <bboschman> I wanted to add a respawn job to /etc/inttab - but ubuntu uses upstart - how to add such a respawn job now?
[17:53] <bartmon> wols: OK, i see the only password the installer asks is for the user account. My mistake. :x
[17:53] <ikonia> [gnubie]: the remote server is probably set to use keys only
[17:53] <dbugger> Hello!
[17:53] <KaiForce> [gnubie] your sshd is set to not allow root to login
[17:53] <Rudd-O> bboschman: take a look at /etc/event.d/tty1
[17:53] <Rudd-O> use it as a template, bboschman
[17:53] <pgold> Rudd-O: whats the exact option?
[17:53] <oranger> ikonia http://pastebin.com/m17034c51
[17:53] <macrobad> mbrigdan: put some rubbish there
[17:53] <raphael_burnes> genii - can I just do dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda2 ?
[17:53] <Rudd-O> you probably want to add a few dependencies
[17:53] <[gnubie]> Rudd-O: system password or ssh key password auth?
[17:53] <oranger> ikonia http://pastebin.com/m17034c51
[17:53] <dbugger> Can someone please help me? I updated today from gutsy to Hardy, and audio aint working!
[17:53] <[gnubie]> ikonia: yes
[17:54] <Rudd-O> pgold: look in the context menu that appears when you rightclick it, I do not use gnome, so I am not sure
[17:54] <[gnubie]> KaiForce: yes, i'm not allowing the root the remote login
[17:54] <Rudd-O> I use kmix for my volume
[17:54] <ikonia> oranger: if you don't pay attention - your not going to get any help
[17:54] <Rudd-O> dbugger: yes, I can, lwhat errors do your applications give?
[17:54] <raphael_burnes> and do the drives have to be the same size?
[17:54] <genii> raphael_burnes: Yes
[17:54] <bboschman> Rudd-O, and how to enable?
[17:54] <Hansadeemon> yo guys anybody can help me out for a minute? i was wndering if hardy gives a boot error like many of the installers from gutsy
[17:54] <ikonia> oranger: I asked you to put the output of "env" into a pastebin ? why have you put the build.log into pastebin
[17:54] <dbugger> Rudd-O: no errors... just no audio
[17:54] <Rudd-O> [gnubie]: ssh is telling you that it is using keyboard interactive psasword, not ssh key
[17:54] <ubilicios> Hi guys I am trying to see shares on a AS400 using samba.  Now I can view the shares when I list them in terminal but either using Dolphin in KDE or Nautilus in GNOME the directories and files show only question marks in there names and I see nothing in the directories at all
[17:54] <oranger> ops sorry
[17:54] <Rudd-O> dbugger: but do apps hang or do they "play" but no audio?
[17:54] <oranger> i do now
[17:54] <Rudd-O> if they do, then it's maybe a volume problem
[17:55] <dbugger> Rudd-O: They play with no audio. everything. Divx, youtube, mp3
[17:55] <genii> raphael_burnes: Be warned the sda2 in this case will now have the UUID of sda1
[17:55] <[gnubie]> Rudd-O: but it's not asking me to key in my password
[17:55] <olleorama> Rudd-O; Thanks Again, I hope it will work now, if it does, great waves of good karma coming your way
[17:55] <olleorama> by for now
[17:55] <Rudd-O> bboschman: select the correct master channel from those on the list.  try several
[17:55] <KaiForce> ubilcios:  permissions
[17:55] <Hansadeemon> buy a cheap usb soundcard. it works :)
[17:55] <Rudd-O> olleorama: see ya!
[17:55] <ubilicios> Rudd-O:permissions?
[17:55] <LiENUS> where can i download the ndiswrapper package for ubuntu outside of apt?
[17:55] <oranger> ikonia http://pastebin.com/m31a4c0dd
[17:55] <Rudd-O> [gnubie]: then the remote server is misconfigured, or you have configured in your .ssh/config not to use password, or you are running ssh from an application that doesn't have a controlling terminal
[17:55] <ikonia> LiENUS: why do you want to do that
[17:55] <LiENUS> ikonia, because its kind of hard to use apt with no internet
[17:55] <dbugger> Rudd-O: scratch that... I fixed it... :$
[17:56] <dbugger> Thank you for your help
[17:56] <ubilicios> Rudd-O: permissions?
[17:56] <pgold> Rudd-O: Thanks. Now it works
[17:56] <Rudd-O> ubilicios: question marks?  that sounds like encoding issues between your AS and the x86 box
[17:56] <Rudd-O> dbugger: awesome
[17:56] <ikonia> oranger: your on PPC
[17:56] <Rudd-O> pgold: you're welconme :-)
[17:56] <dbugger> bye bye
[17:56] <oranger> yes
[17:56] <mbrigdan> macrobad: tried that, it just opens up the rubbish
[17:56] <pgold> Rudd-O: Just have to solve my keyboard shortcuts (Logitech) to mute it
[17:56] <raphael_burnes> genii - is there any way to preserve the UUID?
[17:56] <Rudd-O> LiENUS: that is correct, sux to not have net :-(
[17:56] <ikonia> LiENUS: then how can you download it if you don't have the internet
[17:56] <Rudd-O> Rudd-O: yes, that is in the keyboard shortcuts preference panel
[17:56] <LiENUS> ikonia, my wireless card works in windows just fine
[17:56] <ubilicios> Rudd-O:  Ok any ideas on how I can fix it?
[17:56] <frold> howto find my kernel?
[17:57] <ikonia> oranger: have you built your own version of gcc by any chance ?
[17:57] <Rudd-O> ubilicios: you have mounted stuff shared from your AS400?
[17:57] <KaiForce> ubilicios:  had same problem between linux/NFS for windows, the owner of the mount point was incorrect
[17:57] <stmartin> hi! can you please tell me how to make shortcut of my drives for windows xp?
[17:57] <oranger> no
[17:57] <Rudd-O> when you ls /path/to/sharemounted they work, but not with dolphin or nautilus?
[17:57] <oranger> binaries
[17:57] <genii> raphael_burnes: dd wil clone exactly the drive including the UUID. So after sda1 and sda2 in your case would have exact same UUID which may not be good if that is being used to load the system from grub or to mount it in the fstab file
[17:57] <ikonia> oranger: right - so this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:57] <raphael_burnes> genii - ah, ok, thanks so much
[17:57] <ikonia> oranger: you've got an external version of gcc, your $PATH varible is messed up
[17:57] <Rudd-O> stmartin: use the middlemouse button to drag the directory onto your desktop, and when the menu shows up, select "link here"
[17:57] <nixnoob_> grr
[17:58] <pgold> Rudd-O: I found this menu. But what accelerator should I use in order to mute?
[17:58] <stmartin> Thanks Rudd-O
[17:58] <genii> raphael_burnes: The usual way is to use dd to image a drive into a file, then the file is used later to restore back onto a hd
[17:58] <oranger> thanks very much ikonia
[17:58] <ubilicios> Rudd-O:  Yes I have mounted shares but they show all ??? in the names but if I do a smbclient and go to the shares I can view them just fine.
[17:58] <oranger> thanks very much ikonia
[17:58] <nixnoob_> actually the tutorials on irssi.org SUCK.
[17:58] <pgold> Rudd-O: The current one is 0xa0
[17:58] <Rudd-O> pgold: the accelerators are set in the keyboard shortcuts preference panel, which is a separate panel on the preferences menu
[17:58] <nixnoob_> whoever told me they were good was LYING
[17:58] <ubilicios> KaiForce:  I am using samba not NFS though
[17:58] <Rudd-O> pgold: 0xa0 sounds pretty much like one of those enhanced keyboard accelerator names
[17:58] <Pici> nixnoob_: I found them to be helpful myself.
[17:58] <Rudd-O> click on the accelerator square and then hit the keyboard key
[17:58] <Pici> nixnoob_: You can always try #irssi anyway
[17:58] <mbrigdan> anyone know a good hex editor for ubuntu?
[17:58] <Rudd-O> it shold let you change the accel
[17:58] <KaiForce> ok ubilicious don't check then
[17:58] <macrobad> mbrigdan: ah, do you want geany to produce an error while trying to open the file, or what?
[17:59] <olleorama> Rudd-O, Back in my own partition, I owe you a beer sir
[17:59] <ASULutzy> mbrigdan: bless works
[17:59] <Xavura> WTF Will GEdit not start?
[17:59] <raphael_burnes> genii - so like dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/fooimage, then later dd if=/fooimage of=/dev/sda2 ?
[17:59] <Xavura> It just loads for a while then dissapears
[17:59] <Rudd-O> olleorama: you do not owe me anything, the satisfaction of having you run linux is enough :-)
[17:59] <ASULutzy> !wtf | Xavura
[17:59] <raphael_burnes> genii - or will that still copy the UUID?
[17:59] <Lusule> how do i add applets to my panels?
[17:59] <mbrigdan> macrobad: I want it to give me that "Encoding not found" error.
[17:59] <macrobad> nixnoob_: I've told you that I know how to set up what you want, but you never answered
[17:59] <Xavura> Err it's an abbreviation but whatever
[17:59] <Rudd-O> whiskey tango foxtrot is forbidden on ths channel?
[17:59] <pgold> Rudd-O: Thx Rudd-O. You really helped me!
[17:59] <frold> !kernel |frold
[17:59] <ikonia> Xavura: we all know what it means, please don't use it
[17:59] <Xavura> Why in the world won't GEdit start? It just hangs
[17:59] <Xavura> Better?
[17:59] <Rudd-O> xavura run it from a terminal window, see what it says
[17:59] <nixnoob_> Pici: uh, they tell you to modify scripts that arent there I had to create them all from scratch and they only half worked, then in order to auto ident I needed to download a perl script which did not work, i found http://linuxtidbits.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/setting-up-irssi/ which did the trick in about 3 seconds
[17:59] <genii> raphael_burnes: Yes, exactly. And it will copy ALWAYS the UUID as well as any boot sector info since it's a binary copy
[17:59] <Rudd-O> you can also run strace gnome-terminal see what it says
[17:59] <macrobad> mbrigdan: no idea. just put some /dev/urandom there!
[18:00] <Xavura> terminal won't start either
[18:00] <nixnoob_> macrobad:  because I went off to follow Pici's advise.
[18:00] <Rudd-O> strace is the hammer, everything is the nail
[18:00] <raphael_burnes> genii - ok, perfect, thanks a lot!
[18:00] <genii> raphael_burnes: You're welcome
[18:00] <[gnubie]> Rudd-O: my /etc/ssh/sshd_config is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/27516/
[18:00] <ASULutzy> Xavura: sounds like something bad happened, maybe try ctrl+alt+f1 to switch tty and then dmesg | tail
[18:00] <frold> How to find what kernel I have installed?
[18:00] <Rudd-O> gnubie: sshd config?
[18:00] <ikonia> frold: uname -a
[18:01] <[gnubie]> Rudd-O: my permission denied problem in trying to connect to the remote ssh server
[18:01] <Pici> nixnoob_: I have my freenode irc session setup to use my nickserv password as the server password, this will auto identify for you without having to deal with autosend commands
[18:01] <Rudd-O> [gnubie]: I wish I could help you more, but I'm out of ideas
[18:01] <Rudd-O> try connecting from another machine, to attempt to figure out if it's a client or server problem
[18:01] <Rudd-O> use putty from a win machine
[18:02] <ikonia> [gnubie]: the remote server is not setup correctly, or your not transmitting an authorized key
[18:02] <ikonia> [gnubie]: it's that simple one of those two
[18:02] <macrobad> nixnoob_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27517/
[18:02] <[gnubie]> Rudd-O: it's ok
[18:02] <Rudd-O> if it is, yuo can rm -rf ~/.ssh/ and try again
[18:02] <nixnoob_> Pici: thats a wonderful peice of information that wouldve saved me time and effort about 20 minutes ago.
[18:02] <Rudd-O> yuo moar nao!
[18:02] <nixnoob_> macrobad: I figured it out already.
[18:02] <Rudd-O> spealing mistak
[18:02] <nixnoob_> macrobad: but thanks.
[18:02] <Pici> nixnoob_: Sorry
[18:02] <Lusule> could someone please tell me how i add applets to my panels?
[18:02] <[gnubie]> ok
[18:02] <Rudd-O> Lusule: rightclick the panel and select add applet (or I think that's the name?)
[18:02] <macrobad> nixnoob_: np
[18:02] <frold> ikonia: thanks
[18:02] <Rudd-O> rightclick on an empty area of course
[18:03] <nixnoob_> Pici: no sweat you tried... I'm just a little pissed it took so damn long to figure it out.
[18:03] <bboschman> Rudd-O, sorry but I'm a bit confused with your masterchannel answer oO
[18:03] <nixnoob_> Now I have to restart irssi
[18:03] <Lusule> i found it, thanks :)
[18:03] <alraune> !pastebin
[18:03] <Oliver_> Hi, I have Ubuntu 6.06 installed on my G4 PPC and I have Mac 10.3 install disk and I want to install that.  I have heard I need to use "Disk Utility", is this true?
[18:03] <Rudd-O> bboschman: no prob, you want to assigna  key to mute, right?
[18:04] <minimec> nixnoob: try /restart That should do
[18:04] <bboschman> Rudd-O, hm? I want a service to be restarted if killed
[18:04] <nixnoob> minimec: ahhh now i feel loved so many people helping me
[18:04] <Rudd-O> bboschman: look in /etc/event.d/tty1
[18:04] <Rudd-O> use that as a template
[18:04] <mbrigdan> macrobad: that worked! and it still hides the message I added with bless! It also happens to be 89MB, but I can fix that later
[18:05] <Rudd-O> if the service dies, upstart will respawn it
[18:05] <nixnoob> how bout everyone gives me a nice big hug!!!
[18:05] <Oliver_> Hi, I have Ubuntu 6.06 installed on my G4 PPC and I have Mac 10.3 install disk and I want to install that.  I have heard I need to use "Disk Utility", is this true?
[18:05]  * Rudd-O hugz nixnoob
[18:05] <bboschman> Rudd-O, I created that file - but do I need to switch runlevel to get it enabled?
[18:05] <nixnoob> O god i wasnt serious lol
[18:05] <Bsims> I am getting a new 22" widescreen monitor, what is the best way to change my resolution? Is it still dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:05] <Rudd-O> humm I think you need to killall HUP init
[18:05] <Rudd-O> but don't blame me if that booms your machine
[18:05]  * nixnoob goes to lunch.
[18:05] <Rudd-O> hehehehe
[18:05] <Rudd-O> ooooooooohg
[18:05] <Rudd-O> nononono, you can run "start yourservicename"
[18:05] <Rudd-O> that's it
[18:05] <FloodBot1> Rudd-O: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <Oliver_> Hi, I have Ubuntu 6.06 installed on my G4 PPC and I have Mac 10.3 install disk and I want to install that.  I have heard I need to use "Disk Utility", is this true?
[18:06] <bob3213243> when is ibex coming out and what changes are expected?
[18:06] <Rudd-O> the "start" command is what you are looking for
[18:06] <Rudd-O> stop stops it
[18:06] <Rudd-O> start starts it
[18:06] <mbrigdan> how do I get diff to output the differences between binary files?
[18:06]  * Rudd-O slaps forehead - how could I have forgotten about the start command
[18:06] <stmartin> Hello! I have one file called new file on desktop. How to start it throught terminal?
[18:07] <Rudd-O> mbrigdan: there is a command line option, look in the diff manpage, but it will only be garbage!
[18:07] <Lunar_Lamp> win 15
[18:07] <macrobad> mbrigdan:well, it is 89MB because it is very fast, and it was outputting data until you pressed Ctrl+C
[18:07] <Rudd-O> (I mean the differences between files will be garbage)
[18:07] <Rudd-O> stmartin: create a .desktop file for it, and set Terminal=true in it
[18:07] <bboschman> Rudd-O, start <newfile> <- this was what I was missing :)
[18:07] <macrobad> mbrigdan: But generally, you want something strange, imo.
[18:07] <Rudd-O> you can use one of the desktop files in /usr/share/applications as template
[18:07] <mbrigdan> Rudd-O: Won't be garbage if those binary files were hand made...
[18:07] <Rudd-O> grep for Terminal in that directory, you will find a couple
[18:07] <Jayzee> Does anyone know why I get DegradedArray (UU_) when creating new RAID5 array using mdadm? The disks are blank and completely new...?
[18:08] <genii> stmartin: Much depends on what kind of file it is. It could be some tar.gz file, an executable shell file, or even some windows exe that needs Wine to run with
[18:08] <Rudd-O> and then you doubleclick the desktop file, not the command
[18:08] <stmartin> it is document file
[18:08] <Rudd-O> Jayzee: not sure, but it means that one of the components of the array is faulty
[18:09] <stmartin> How to write it new file (with space) in the terminal so it can be opened?
[18:09] <[gnubie]> ikonia and Rudd-O: here's the output in trying to connect to the remote server => http://paste.ubuntu.com/27519/
[18:09] <Pici> stmartin: escape\ your\ spaces\ with\ slashes
[18:09] <stmartin> I write sudo gedit new file but it opens 2 new files
[18:09] <dcordes> what's the name of the binary driver GUI in the latest ubuntu?
[18:10] <Pici> stmartin: Use gksudo for graphical apps
[18:10] <ale_> ciao a tutti
[18:10] <Pici> !it | ale_
[18:10] <trakinas> stmartin: or gedit "new file"
[18:10] <Rudd-O> gnubie, did you try to connect from another machine first?
[18:10] <genii> stmartin: Do NOT use sudo to open graphical applications such as gedit. Always use gksu from Gnome or kdesu from KDE
[18:10] <[gnubie]> Rudd-O: yes, and same problem
[18:10] <XiongMao-kun> uit
[18:10] <Jayzee> Rudd-O: Strange, everything seems correct and according to all tests the disks are OK
[18:10] <Rudd-O> Jayzee: cat /proc/mdstat
[18:11] <Rudd-O> gnubie: weird, seems like a server misconfiguration
[18:11] <Rudd-O> try to restore the configuration in the server to the defaults
[18:11] <Jayzee> Rudd-O: recovering...
[18:11] <Rudd-O> uninstall the package and dpkg --purge it too so the config is blown away, and then  reinstall it
[18:11] <Rudd-O> Jayzee: it is resyincing the arrays
[18:12] <Rudd-O> raids5 on linux is unfortunately slow to do that.  you should not use it if you can avoid it and/or if you don't have an UPS.
[18:12] <[gnubie]> Rudd-O: same thing.. only to this user.. but logging in as root doesn't have any problem at all..
[18:12] <Rudd-O> whaddya know, I just cracked a beer
[18:13] <Jayzee> Rudd-O: yes I know what it does, I wonder though why does it not show UUU instead of UU_
[18:13] <stmartin> genii: why I shouldn't use sudo for graphical applications?
[18:13] <Lusule> hmmm anyone know why KOTOR2 can't detect my hardware in either Wine or Cedega?
[18:13] <Slart> !gksudo
[18:13] <Rudd-O> stmartin: because if you run it from a menu instead of a terminal, no password prompt!
[18:14] <genii> stmartin: Because it doesn't know enough not to mess up permissions of files in the users home directory, which can make some apps un-runnable afterwards for them
[18:14] <Rudd-O> Jayzee: it is resyicing only one of the components of the array
[18:14] <trakinas> Lusule: #winehq
[18:14] <Lusule> okay thanks trak, i asked in there but they're a lot more silent than this room :(  was hoping someone here might know, since it does it in cedega too
[18:15] <Hansadeemon> is the grub 21 error fixed in the hardy version of ubuntu?
[18:15] <genii> stmartin: For instance if you ran once Nautilus with sudo and not gksu then the regular user can never run it again without resetting all permissions of things in their home directory back to their ownership
[18:15] <Slart> Hansadeemon: grub error 21? isn't that about hard drives being moved around?
[18:15] <Slart> Hansadeemon: I don't think it's a bug..
[18:15] <mbrigdan> where is the config file for sshd kept by default?
[18:15] <ASULutzy> Hansadeemon: Grub 21 error? That sounds like a misconfiguration
[18:16] <Slart> Hansadeemon, ASULutzy: grub error 21, Selected disk does not exist..
[18:16] <Flannel> mbrigdan: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:16] <Hansadeemon> Hmm, i got a msi computer, read a whole lot about this problem, people installed difrent boots n stuff
[18:17] <Hansadeemon> hmm
[18:17] <Kakinho> voltei
[18:17] <stmartin> I already used sudo gedit "new file"
[18:17] <ASULutzy> Hansadeemon: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2003-02/msg00082.html http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/grub-error-21-338856/
[18:18] <ASULutzy> Hansadeemon: two links there that may help
[18:18] <Hansadeemon> thnx, check it out. :)
[18:18] <Musli> YO
[18:18] <orgthingy> ok, my internet sucks xD! so, again: how can I enable Stealth mode in IPTables
[18:18] <trakinas> Kakinho: wrong chan, cara...
[18:19] <Musli> anyone here that use cedega?
[18:19] <Slart> orgthingy: wow.. you have an internet of your own.. ;)--
[18:19] <slashzul> anyone know of tools to recover a crashed ubuntu disk?
[18:19] <selocol> I ssh to my remote box via<EMAIL_ADDRESS>How can I connect via user@hostname instead of typing the IP each time? Is there a place where I can store an alias for the IP? Thanks.
[18:19] <orgthingy> Slart: :P ?
[18:19] <Hansadeemon> hope it works
[18:19] <Slart> orgthingy: stealth mode? is that a standard thing? sounds like something windowsy
[18:19] <ASULutzy> orgthingy: I have no idea what "stealth mode" even means ;)
[18:19] <Rudd-O> what's this stealth mode technology you seem to be discussing?
[18:19] <orgthingy> well, I know that you can use Stealth Mode in Linux
[18:19] <orgthingy> but dunno how
[18:20] <slashzul> I mount ubuntu formated disk , shows 40% used but no files seen
[18:20] <Rudd-O> dropping ICMP connection resets?
[18:20] <Slart> orgthingy: "my internet sucks"..
[18:20] <slashzul> how do you recover the files?
[18:20] <Slart> orgthingy: find out what this stealth mode is.. then we can help you
[18:20] <orgthingy> ASULutzy: when a random dude or hacker "pings" your IP, it wont reply, even though you are online
[18:20] <Rudd-O> slashzul: 40% used?  no files?  what format is that filesystem?
[18:20] <slashzul> its a standard ubuntu fs
[18:20] <Slart> orgthingy: ah.. gibson stealth =)
[18:20] <Rudd-O> yeah but what does it saiy in mount, slashzul
[18:20] <Rudd-O> the mount command
[18:20] <ASULutzy> orgthingy: replying to pings isn't necessarily a bad thing...
[18:20] <Rudd-O> orgthingy: oh you need to block ICMPs
[18:20] <orgthingy> but, he will not attack your IP, because he thinks you're offline
[18:20] <orgthingy> I like that trick :P
[18:21] <orgthingy> in IRC (different issue) = you can use stealth mode, in some networks, but no FreeNode :(
[18:21] <Rudd-O> iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j DROP
[18:21] <Slart> orgthingy: easiest would be to install firestarter or something.. do it from there
[18:21] <Rudd-O> orgthingy: there are other ways to find out if your machine is alive, not via ICMP, sorry
[18:21] <Slart> orgthingy: not answering to pings won't fool anyone
[18:21] <RaceCondition> im using Python and PIL to render fonts on an Ubuntu Server 8.04 machine and the fonts look ugly. is there some way to tune the way fonts are smoothed?
[18:21] <RaceCondition> on an OS X machine, the fonts look pretty
[18:21] <RaceCondition> using the same code
[18:21] <monkeyBox> Hi everyone.  I'm having this extremely odd issue where every once in awhile my core gnome apps will stop working (eg, gnome-terminal, gedit, update-manager, etc..).  When I open one of these aps they either exit immediately (w/ no terminal output) or they open a window but fail to render any UI elements.  I have to reboot to fix it.  Has anyone experienced this strangeness?
[18:21] <Slart> orgthingy: if you weren't online your upstream router would report "no route to host".. so it's not really that sneaky
[18:22] <orgthingy> Slart: it fools some
[18:22] <Slart> orgthingy: it's kind of yelling "I'm not at home" when someone rings on your door
[18:22] <Slart> ahem..knocks on your door..
[18:22] <Rudd-O> RaceCondition: you probably want to look into antialiasing
[18:23] <ASULutzy> orgthingy: In fact open source apps demonstrate that point quite well. While you could go ahead and set your iptables to not respond to any pings, that gives you more a false sense of security than anything else. More important would be to make sure any services you do have running on your machine that a malicious hacker might try to exploit are secured as well as possible.
[18:23] <orgthingy> Slart: irc = no problem
[18:23] <orgthingy> I used Stealth mode, back then when I was using Windows, and I had no problems chatting in IRC (stealth mode)
[18:23] <orgthingy> sometimes, you have to do some "work" in ordeer for sealth mode to work in IRC
[18:23] <Rudd-O> thing is antialiasing are usually done using the system libs, on linux there's cairo but I think it needs an X connection to work.
[18:23] <RaceCondition> Rudd-O: yeah, but where's that? I don't have X on the server. is there a config file for that?
[18:23] <ensi> do you guys know why when grub starts loading linux, i get now output on the sreen during the loading untill gdm starts?
[18:23] <Rudd-O> I may be wrong, ask behdad esfahbod about it
[18:23] <RaceCondition> I'm not sure which library PIL is using to render fonts
[18:23] <ASULutzy> orgthingy: Obscurity != security :)
[18:23] <ensi> s/now/no/
[18:23] <Rudd-O> RaceCondition: freetype configuration?
[18:23] <Rudd-O> dpkg -l *freetype  | xargs dpkg -L ?¡
[18:23] <orgthingy> Slart: well, stealth mode helps
[18:24] <Slart> orgthingy: but install firestarter.. and create a rule that drops new and unrelated incoming connections.. that should do it
[18:24] <orgthingy> and I know a lot of hackers/scriptkiddies complaining about people using firewalls in stealth mode
[18:24] <RaceCondition> Rudd-O: you want to see the output of that?
[18:24] <Fredd> fredd19
[18:24] <Shujah> scriptkiddies complaining :P?
[18:24] <orgthingy> Slart: oh, thanks :)
[18:24] <Rudd-O> RaceCondition: well I was hinting at the possibility that the freetype packages contain config files
[18:24] <RaceCondition> oh
[18:24] <edeff> slt
[18:24] <Rudd-O> but I'm also sure it might be possible to programmatically enable antialiasing if hte PIL library is linked to freetype
[18:24] <Slart> orgthingy: if you're not going to trust us about stealth mode not being useful you might not want to take our advice when it comes to firewall rules either.. =)
[18:25] <edeff> cam hot sur MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:25] <edeff> cam hot sur MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:25] <orgthingy> sudo apt-get install firestarter, right?
[18:25] <Rudd-O> orgthingy: script kiddies are not your concern.  keep zero services listening on public ip addresses and you will always be safe
[18:25] <wols> !ops | edeff
[18:25] <Slart> orgthingy: something like that, yes
[18:25] <Rudd-O> kill edeff please
[18:25] <Richwn> im a firestarter
[18:25] <RaceCondition> Rudd-O: but the command you gave me showed not output about where the config files might be
[18:25] <Richwn> a twisted firestarter
[18:25] <Richwn> *drum and bass*
[18:25] <Rudd-O> RaceCondition: list the freetype packages first
[18:25] <ASULutzy> !ot | Richwn, old prodigy songs are offtopic ;)
[18:26] <Rudd-O> then list the files with dpkg -L for each package
[18:26] <Slart> Richwn: no singing in main channel.. #ubuntu-offtopic would love you though =)
[18:26] <Hansadeemon> yo ppl. crack that ps3 shit so ubuntu can work fast instead of emulated prosessor. that would be awsome. blue ray n shit.
[18:26] <wols> RaceCondition: config files are in /etc generally
[18:26] <Richwn> hehe
[18:26] <Rudd-O> I hatd firestarter.  OTOH, I loved voodoo people.  Brings back angelina jolie memories.
[18:26] <RaceCondition> Rudd-O: there is just one package -- freetype
[18:26] <wols> !ot | Rudd-O
[18:26] <Rudd-O> is there no libfreetypeX package?
[18:26] <orgthingy> Shujah: haha, yes
[18:26] <Rudd-O> there has to be one
[18:26] <roshan> the submit the ASCII key is not working
[18:26] <RaceCondition> ah, there is -- libfreetype6
[18:26] <wols> RaceCondition: dpkg -l |grep freetype
[18:27] <Gnea> !language | Hansadeemon
[18:27] <RaceCondition> got it, but it doesn't have any configuration files
[18:27] <nixternal> Rudd-O: libfreetype6
[18:27] <Slart> roshan: huh?
[18:27] <ASULutzy> !piracy | Hansadeemon
[18:27] <Rudd-O> oh, thanks for the tip, nix!
[18:27] <bartmon> Hi. I'm having problems connecting to my VNC server. I'm constantly getting "CConnection: No matching security types" errors.
[18:27] <Rudd-O> :-) yeah indeed libfreetype* might contain config files, but I'm sure those options can be programmatically altered
[18:28] <Gnea> ASULutzy: i'm failing to see the piracy connection :)
[18:28] <RaceCondition> OK.. I'll  investigate into that
[18:28] <nixternal> if you need the libraries for dev then it is libfreetype6-dev :)
[18:28] <roshan> can i discuss here about my problems with ASCII keys for the keyserver
[18:28] <Slart> bartmon: of course you've already read this since you googled before asking here..*ahem*.. but here's a link.. first hit http://www.realvnc.com/support/nomatchingsec.html
[18:29] <nixternal> roshan: go for it :)
[18:29] <nixternal> maybe someone can help
[18:29] <bartmon> Slart: In fact i've yahoo'd it. Maybe this was the point of failure. :)
[18:29] <Slart> roshan: sure.. you might want to explain a bit more what you're doing etc
[18:29] <Mawbid> when mount says "already mounted or ... busy" and the device is not mounted and the mount point is not busy, what else should I look for?
[18:30] <QuickGold> I accidently deleted the /var directory....whats the best way to recover from this problem?
[18:30] <Rudd-O> open files
[18:30] <roshan> geneating a gpg key
[18:30] <Rudd-O> Mawbid: open files, use lsof -n to figure it out
[18:30] <Rudd-O> lsof -n | grep /mountpoint
[18:30] <Rudd-O> sometimes it's as easy as cd / :-)
[18:30] <thorny_sun> ubuntu gurus! -- how do i cp a file to multiple directors at once?  i.e. cp ../blah.txt *    where my current directory only has directories i want to copy to
[18:30] <bartmon> Slart: Also, I0m using the default VNC server that comes with Ubuntu 8.04 so I don't see why the default VNC client can't connect to it.
[18:30] <ASULutzy> Gnea: He said please crack PS3 stuff, in bad english ;)
[18:31] <Mawbid> Rudd-O : well, I don't have a mount point -- it hasn't been mounted since boot (well, except by grub)
[18:31] <Slart> bartmon: nope.. sounds like a reasonable thing to expect..
[18:31] <Rudd-O> hasn't been mounted?
[18:31] <Rudd-O> well you could in theory umount -l
[18:31] <Rudd-O> that's a lowercase L
[18:31] <macrobad> bartmon: There are two default clients :)
[18:32] <slashzul> i mounted a crashed ubuntu disk and it shows no files, only on cli df i get percentage used.
[18:32] <Rudd-O> thorny_sun: that's easy
[18:32] <QuickGold> I accidentally deleted the /var directory....whats the best way to recover from this problem?
[18:32] <slashzul> how do you recover these files?
[18:32] <macrobad> bartmon: Try with Terminal services client
[18:32] <Rudd-O> thorny_sun: for a in /target /directories ; do cp "$sourcefile" "$a" ; done
[18:32] <wols> QuickGold: backup
[18:32] <macrobad> bartmon: If it doesn't work, go for realvnc
[18:32] <wols> rather, use the backup and restore the files
[18:32] <Rudd-O> that does a for each target directory, copy the source file into the target dir
[18:32] <macrobad> bartmon: Although, it worked in any combination for me
[18:32] <QuickGold> wols: my backup only had my web sites on there, not the system stuff that was also in /var
[18:32] <Mawbid> umount -l says /dev/hda1: not mounted
[18:33] <Rudd-O> slashzul: I think you need to unmount it and fsck it, and then figure out what is wrong with the computer that crashed the disk, because it is not normal for files to be missing
[18:33] <Hansadeemon> hmm, i dont understand, ps3 is made for otheros, so how is that piracy?
[18:33] <Rudd-O> slashzul: if you can take an image from the disk using dd first, I would heartily recommend so
[18:33] <wols> QuickGold: then I guess that other stuff wasn't important
[18:33] <Mawbid> my system is obviously quite screwed up
[18:33] <Slart> QuickGold: I'm trying to think .. are there any "important" files in /var? anything keeping the system from rebooting?
[18:33] <Rudd-O> mawbid, if it's not mounted, then it's unmounted! :-)
[18:33] <wols> Slart: your whole dpkg and apt DB for starters
[18:33] <QuickGold> Slart: Nope, i've succesfully rebooted
[18:33] <wols> so it might boot but you can't install or upgrade anything
[18:34] <QuickGold> wols: correct
[18:34] <Shujah> Hansadeemon, other OS or not ubuntu banner doesnt encourage piracy :D
[18:34] <Mawbid> :-)
[18:34] <bartmon> macrobad: I've figured it out. On the server i had to disable the VNC session encryption which can be set on the Advanced tab. Now i can connect via the command line with vncviewer.
[18:34] <Slart> wols: but that should only come around and bite you if you update stuff.. you could still salvage files etc
[18:34] <admin_> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with a cd being recognized/mounted. I have a commercial music cd (not burned by me or whatever), but I put it in here, and nothing happens. I tried to do the same thing with a cdrw I have, and everything works perfectly. Is there some kinda special bypass I need for loading a music cd?
[18:34] <wols> Slart: with journalling filesystem? good luck..
[18:34] <macrobad> bartmon: kk. good that you figured it out
[18:34] <Fredd> please where can find the option for change   the view of  the aplications running in the main panel in the second desktop?
[18:34] <bartmon> macrobad: The odd thing is that the vncviewer that ships with Ubuntu doesn't support encryption
[18:34] <Slart> wols: I meant from other folders
[18:35] <rj_> there are some ext3 undelete programs available
[18:35] <macrobad> bartmon: Both of them?
[18:35] <bartmon> macrobad: thanks.
[18:35] <Hansadeemon> Shujah; i just want to install it on my ps3 with the hardware. tat is a OS, not piracy?
[18:35] <bartmon> macrobad: don't know, but vncviewer doesn't. but i guess that's ok because i'm using a ssh tunnel anyway
[18:35] <Slart> wols: I meant boot the computer up, backup what files you need from the parts of the filesystem that is still around.. then reinstall
[18:35] <QuickGold> How do I reinstall apt-get
[18:36] <Slart> QuickGold: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apt
[18:36] <Mawbid> I suppose use through LVM and such could count as "mounted" in this case. But pvscan/pvdisplay doesn't own up to having anything to do with hda1
[18:36] <Slart> QuickGold: recursion, see recursion
[18:36] <QuickGold> Slart: I cant..../var/lib is missing
[18:37] <macrobad> bartmon: Beware, there used to be a bug in vino server, which prevented one from restricting incoming connections to the localhost only in IPv4 networks on Linux machines...
[18:37] <rj_> to recover your var directory you could look for an undelete program.  main thing is to not touch that disk until running undelete.  I have seen them around but don't know offhand where to get it, try google undelete linux ext3
[18:37] <Slart> QuickGold: I would recommend a reinstall..
[18:37] <Slart> rj_: no undelete for ext3.. there are some utils for ext2
[18:37] <rj_> reinstall is goingt to be safer than undelete
[18:37] <QuickGold> ugh
[18:38] <macrobad> bartmon: It was reported but not fixed the last time I checked the issue couple weeks ago.
[18:38] <Hansadeemon> For those who aint familiar with ps3, it is a option to install otheros, its really great, but the versions for ps3 is wit emulated power. i guess ps3 is the ultimate machine. the black box has like 7 cpus :(
[18:38] <bartmon> macrobad: odd... but i trust my LAN and the server is behind a NAT router anyway so the port isn't reachable from the outside
[18:38] <Fredd> please where can find the option for change   the view of  the aplications running in the main panel in the second desktop?
[18:38] <Slart> rj_: nevermind.. I'm confused.. there seems to be several undelete tools for ext3..
[18:38] <dxdt> Does apache run as user www-data or root?  Like if I change a bunch of files to have owner and group www-data, will Apache be square and not know how to handle that?  (Apache2)
[18:38] <rj_> no undelete for ext3???  hmm, ext3 is just 2 with a journal
[18:39] <Hansadeemon> lefty!
[18:39] <trakinas> dxdt: akaik, www-data
[18:39] <Hansadeemon> u cracka!
[18:39] <QuickGold> Slart: can you recommend one?
[18:39] <trakinas> *afaik
[18:39] <Slart> QuickGold: nope... never tried it
[18:39] <dxdt> trakinas: so it will be OK?  I think it will too, but was just hoping for that second vote of confidence on it
[18:39] <macrobad> bartmon: yeah, and very nasty, since I've spent half a day debugging it!
[18:39] <leftyfb> Hansadeemon: so now we're name-calling?
[18:39] <orgthingy> OH JESUS
[18:39] <orgthingy> I stopped" copying" my songs from flash-drive to my external HD
[18:39] <Hansadeemon> You were a jerk earlier
[18:39] <orgthingy> and
[18:39] <orgthingy> all fo files got erased
[18:39] <orgthingy> oh, what Im gonna do now!
[18:40] <slashzul> i mounted a crashed ubuntu disk and it shows no files, only on cli df i get percentage used.
[18:40] <jbroome> orgthingy: restore from backup!
[18:40] <Shujah> orgthingy, repent?
[18:40] <trakinas> dxdt: if you give group privileges to www-data apache will handle that with no troubles
[18:40] <dxdt> trakinas: cool that is what I'm doing.  Thanks!
[18:40] <orgthingy> External HD *is supposed* to be backup
[18:40] <slashzul> how do you recover files from a disk I can see , but shows no files
[18:40] <Slart> orgthingy: you didn't run some code you got from irc directly on your important folders/files.. now did you???
[18:40] <slashzul> is there a way to recover a crashed ubuntu?
[18:40] <orgthingy> no no
[18:40] <zill_> Does anyone know the easiest way to get Django working with Apache2?
[18:40] <orgthingy> skashzul: oh yes
[18:40] <orgthingy> slashzul**
[18:41] <dxdt> zill_: I have done it on ubuntu recently I could help
[18:41] <slashzul> how
[18:41] <rj_> does anybody has experience installing vmware?  I found a howto but several people commented that they had trouble getting the mouse to work.  I am about to attempt installing it would like to get an idea what I am running into, just wasted two days trying to get wine to work. and virtualbox trashed my system (sound and video) such that I had to reinstall.  so am pretty leery. would like to hear from others.
[18:41] <bartmon> macrobad: is vino from RealVNC?
[18:41] <slashzul> i run df commmand so I know the files are there
[18:41] <slashzul> but ls -la shows nada
[18:41] <orgthingy> go to "2nd" line in Grub, ubuntu "something something" (recovery)
[18:41] <trakinas> zill_: there are tutorials on django-project for that.
[18:41] <tylere> Just did a fresh install of 8.04.1 amd64...when gnome loaded for the first time, update manager appeared, and I attmped to install the updates... most went fine but apt chocked on linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic and l-restricted-modules-... and now apt is wedged...any suggestions?
[18:41] <zill_> dxdt: what do you do after you install Django?
[18:41] <slashzul> orgythingy: so from the boot disk or live cd ?
[18:42] <slashzul> it doesnt boot, so can it be done from live cd?
[18:42] <macrobad> bartmon: You won't believe it, but Gnome now develops their own VNC-server, and they take code from RealVNC, and other projects. IMO, they are very, very wrong.
[18:42] <trakinas> zill_: follow django guide
[18:42] <orgthingy> HD, the "grub" menu that u choose "ubuntu" from
[18:42] <orgthingy> slashzul: how many times did you use ubuntu from HD?
[18:42] <trakinas> zill_: you have to start  a project and configure its files.
[18:42] <orgthingy> (after u installed it, I mean)
[18:42] <GreenDelta> hey, i have following problem: once of twice (i mean REALLY every second time) i have sound in flash and some programms, but i have no sound in local saved data (movies, mp3 etc.), the other time i can play movies with sound etc. but most programms can't play any music (including flash and wine). I already tried "asoundfonf set-default-card" but no change. sbd. has an idea?
[18:42] <dxdt> zill_: haha what do you mean by install?  I installed the SVN version, which is what is recommended and the one in the ubuntu repos is older.  I followed the docs and did the symlinks.  Make sure you have mod_apache installed.  Then after that, you just have to set a handler in apache2.conf and you are good to go
[18:42] <slashzul> none
[18:42] <slashzul> I booted off live cdrom
[18:42] <orgthingy> slashzul: oh, ok, I had same problem
[18:42] <slashzul> then mounted i
[18:42] <Hansadeemon> If anybody know of a compatible version that not just emulates the power in ps3, send me a mg. please. And for tose with ps3. Install :)
[18:42] <orgthingy> slashzul : Ill "private message" u
[18:43] <slashzul> fdisk disappeared so I couldnt see anything
[18:43] <Shujah> GreenDelta, for flash download libflashsupport
[18:43] <rj_> tylere  yeah, I frequently get apt problems.  the thing to do is to open a terminal and sudo dpkg --configure --pending    that should clear the problem, at least it does for me
[18:43] <trakinas> Hansadeemon: you should try YellowLinux.
[18:43] <Hansadeemon> yellooooonn/
[18:43] <bartmon> macrobad: i agree. they should offer better integration of existing projects instead of wanting to have a controllable server with a simple GUI
[18:43] <zill_> dxdt: I just did sudo apt-get install django-python.  I'm having trouble with the Symlinks.  I found a guide online, but when I did what it said, it didn't work.
[18:44] <Hansadeemon> trakinas: whats the difrence?
[18:44] <macrobad> bartmon: true that, man
[18:44] <tylere> rj_: hrrm...well that gives me a DIFFERENT error ;(
[18:44] <trakinas> Hansadeemon: yellowlinux is another disto. one focoused on powerpc
[18:44] <tylere> rj_: looks like this might be lvm related...but it worked fine in the isntall...I mean, it's running now
[18:44] <trakinas> *distro
[18:44] <bartmon> macrobad: do you run a VNC server and if so, which one? :)
[18:44] <tylere> ugh...clean system...lemme reinstall without boot on the lvm
[18:44] <Hansadeemon> Is it beter?
[18:45] <magnetron> how do i set Irssi to use utf-8 for one channel only?
[18:45] <wols> Hansadeemon: it's OT here
[18:45] <orgthingy> slashzul : did u get my private message?
[18:45] <wols> magnetron: ask #irssi I guess
[18:45] <Fredd> please where can find the option for change the option for view  the aplications running in the main panel in others workspaces?
[18:45] <Hansadeemon> aiight, i got ubuntu power pc version now. reminds me of my ol 200 mmx
[18:46] <Hansadeemon> on my ps3
[18:46] <rj_> does anybody has experience installing vmware?  I found a howto but several people commented that they had trouble getting the mouse to work.  I am about to attempt installing it would like to get an idea what I am running into, just wasted two days trying to get wine to work. and virtualbox trashed my system (sound and video) such that I had to reinstall.  so am pretty leery. would like to hear from others.
[18:46] <Hansadeemon> shure like to see xbox fix a os on their macine.
[18:47] <ASULutzy> !ot | Hansadeemon
[18:47] <Hansadeemon> tats only sony. cool they made it an option. works great too
[18:47] <Hansadeemon> K thanks dude :)
[18:47] <ASULutzy> rj_: How did VB hose your sound and video? You can try VMWare, though in my opinion is a bit trickier to setup than V
[18:47] <ASULutzy> VB*
[18:47] <QuickGold> what is the command line command to determine version of ubuntu that is running?
[18:47] <macrobad> bartmon: I've been experimenting with different ones in laboratory environment, but have decided to stick to RDP in offtopic (unless it is not supported due to licensing - RealVNC then), and default Vino server with default VNC viewer in GNOME.
[18:48] <leftyfb> QuickGold: cat /etc/issue
[18:48] <Slart> QuickGold: lsb_release -a
[18:48] <macrobad> bartmon: I just rarely need it, so it works OK for me.
[18:48] <ASULutzy> QuickGold: lsb_release -a
[18:48] <QuickGold> thanks
[18:48] <inik1> rj_: i set it up several times
[18:49] <MTecknology> Anybody in here know how to build a multi-boot DVD?
[18:49] <Lusule> how do i add folders i use to places?
[18:49] <bartmon> macrobad: I'm not a heavy user so it suffuces for me as well. Thanks for all the info, I appreciate it!
[18:49] <gabriele> !list
[18:49] <Slart> Lusule: right click on then.. afaik
[18:49] <Slart> Lusule: the folders I meant.. right click on them.. add to bookmarks
[18:49] <Lusule> slart - i don't get an option like that
[18:50] <Slart> Lusule: neither do I (I just checked).. well well. just drag the folder to the places side panel then
[18:50] <macrobad> bartmon: You too, it's nice to share
[18:50] <leftyfb> Lusule: open up nautilus (file manager) and drag a folder over to the right pane
[18:50] <leftyfb> er, to the left pane
[18:50] <Slart> Lusule: strange.. I kind of recall there being a bookmarks thingy in nautilus..
[18:50] <corky> What the hell?!, Sometimes i get an GUI error, No applications open at all, And it happens at a random point.
[18:50] <Lusule> i see it leftyfb - thanks!
[18:50] <Lusule> it's there now
[18:50] <new_to_ubuntu> Anyone know how to solve a laptop (Your computer failed to suspend) power management problem (Toshiba Tecra M2)?
[18:51] <evilbug> where can i still get a ppc version of ubuntu?
[18:51] <rj_> asulutzy -- I have an nvidia video with autoinstalled propritay driver.  after installing virtualBox the nvidia driver was gone and ubuntu could only manage a vesa 800x600  also the sound stopped working totally.  spent an hour or two trying to fix it and then gave up and reinstalled -- am not a happy camper.  Actually I have yet to have a good experience with virtual box have tried it on 3 different oses now and have never gotten it to run, but th
[18:51] <rj_> is is the first time it has actually trashed anything.  I am never going to touch that krap again.
[18:51] <daschl> hey guys, im running cakephp on a IIS. i migrated my site from apache to IIS (without rewrite) and all i got out is this: http://www.fac.at/ .. it seems that the layout is not rendering? the page works perfectly under linux
[18:51] <Slart> Lusule: ah.. there is a "bookmarks" menu.. where you can click "Add", it will add the current folder to the places bar
[18:52] <Lusule> next question - how do i install firefox 3?  i got it as a tar.bz2
[18:52] <Slart> Lusule: what's wrong with "sudo apt-get install firefox" ?
[18:52] <leftyfb> Lusule: if you're running ubuntu 8.04, you have FF3
[18:52] <corky> What the hell?!, Sometimes i get an GUI error, No applications open at all, And it happens at a random point., A terminal looks like a normal window but the things inside it are messed up, like the input/output box is just a white square. any running applications are functioning half, then... usually nautilus OR the gnome bars run to an hold an wont respond.. ubuntu version 8.04
[18:52] <julian__> rj_ im using virtualbox since 6 month and never had problems with it (except some crashes of win xp, but im not sure if its windows or virtualbox ;-) )
[18:52] <inik1> corky: - maybe nautilus crashed or you don't have  enough memory
[18:53] <corky> inik1, enough memory?!.. 2 gig?!
[18:53] <Lusule> oops you're right!
[18:53] <corky> ah.. new linux headers and stuff.. lets see if that is any inprovement
[18:53] <ASULutzy> rj_: Usually it's as simple as sudo apt-get install virtualbox, there's no reason installing it should do anything related to xserver-xorg or your /etc/X11/xorg.conf as far as I can tell... I've installed it on quite a few machines... But VMWare doesn't have a package in the hardy repositories, so you'll have to download it from their website and install it manually I believe
[18:54] <inik1> corky - what about swawp file?
[18:54] <corky> inik1, i don't have swap at all... recommended?
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> corky yes recommended
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> corky It is part of the default install
[18:54] <corky> Can i use 1 swapfile per 2 OSes?
[18:55] <corky> i have debian with swap installed already
[18:55] <inik1> corky   - can we talk in private
[18:55] <corky> inik1, ok
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> inik1 We appreciate your help but it is best to keep support in the channel.
[18:55] <corky> inik1, join #corky
[18:56] <bartmon> corky: it is recommended to have swap but i have found turning it off when on battery power will give almost 30 minutes more battery life.
[18:56] <mbrigdan> whats a good key strength to use for ssh-keygen? I'm currently creating a 16384 bit key, which I think is a bit of overkill.
[18:56] <ASULutzy> Oh weird, I installed Intrepid and told it to use the same swap space hardy uses, but now in hardy swapon -s doesn't display any swap in use... Apparently installing intrepid changed /dev/sda6's UUID...
[18:56] <rj_> new_to_ubuntu: one way to solve the power managment problem it to avoid it.  go to system preferences power managment and set it to never
[18:56] <genii> corky: If you share a swap partition between different distributionsit becomes problemmatic for hibernate function
[18:56] <ASULutzy> mbrigdan: That
[18:56] <ASULutzy> mbrigdan: That's massively overkill
[18:57] <mbrigdan> ASULutzy: Its only 2^14 ...
[18:57] <corky> genii, i never hybernate
[18:57] <Hansadeemon> internet web 2.0 sucks. hope they take 3.0 to 1.0 surfin!
[18:57] <zod21> hansadeemon what are you talkin about
[18:57] <leftyfb> Hansadeemon is a troll
[18:58] <zod21> hahahaha
[18:58] <mbrigdan> ASULutzy: How much overkill is that?
[18:58] <zod21> leftyfb, why do most computer guys call people trolls
[18:58] <zod21> haha
[18:58] <new_to_ubuntu> rj_:  thanks.  Actually, I did that.  Uh, what about when I want to close the lid.  Any suggestions there so I don't ruin the screen if the processor happened to get hot while unattended?
[18:58] <Pici> !ot | zod21
[18:58] <zod21> huh pici
[18:59] <leftyfb> zod21: because their only reason for being around is to troll for trouble/arguements
[18:59] <zod21> ahhh
[18:59] <zod21> that makes sense
[18:59] <sparr> how can i save my (ALSA) volume levels so they restore when i reboot?
[18:59] <ASULutzy> mbrigdan: That's like, the NSA and all world governments using all their computers would have a hard time cracking. 1024 is pretty much standard, 2048 would be way more than enough
[19:00] <mbrigdan> ASULutzy: That seems like a good strength to me, not that I have anything to hide...
[19:01] <Tacobor> I have hardy installed on a dell dimension 2400. The BOIS does not allow me to disable the onboard intel graphics card. I also have an ATI  Radeon 9500 which is the card I use. I noticed upon installing hardy it borrows 8 MB RAM for the intel. What should I look for in lsmod so I can blacklist the onboard video?
[19:01] <ASULutzy> mbrigdan: It took 8,000 Mips-years to crack a 512-bit RSA key.
[19:02] <Logrusmage> Hey can anyone help me with my MythTV backend set up? I'm getting some big errors, I think it might have to do with multiple mysql.txt files but deleting them seems to do nothing (they reappear) anyone know how to help?
[19:02] <zod21> how would you go about cracking a 512 bit
[19:02] <zod21> thats hardly even possible
[19:02] <leftyfb> Tacobor: update your bios. The option to disable the onboard video was added in later
[19:03] <macrobad> mbrigdan: Also, it depends on the kind of key you are generating
[19:03] <RomanaMentalis> I am having trouble getting my computer to boot into the Ubuntu server installation I installed.  the installation is on /dev/sdc1  but I'm not sure how this relates to my HD0, HD1 etc.  How can I tell which HD /dev/sdc1 is on?
[19:03] <mbrigdan> ASULutzy: hmm, 16384 bits is seeming to be a bit of overkill now, but I have it already, so i'll just leave it
[19:03] <mbrigdan> macrobad: its an RSA key
[19:03] <RomanaMentalis> (I'm trying to install GRUB on the right HD)
[19:03] <kevinO> how can i search a bunch o ffiles for the string "add Items"
[19:03] <QuickGold> in a default mysql install on ubuntu, where are the mysql db's stored?
[19:03] <leftyfb> kevinO: grep
[19:03] <zamolxes> hey. I want to install ubuntu on this computer, but it has no optical drive. It already has windows xp and an older debian (that I want to replace with ubuntu). Now, what would be the cleanest/fastest way to install it? I have many options like installing from windows, installing from debian with chroot, booting the installer from my laptop with PXE, installing from an usb flash drive.
[19:03] <snar2> grep "add Items" *
[19:03] <leftyfb> QuickGold: /var/lib/mysql
[19:03] <_1n7rud3r> hi all
[19:04] <Shujah> RomanaMentalis, fdisk -l
[19:04] <kevinO> leftyfb, can you show me the proper way
[19:04] <andresj> hey i have desktop effects avtivated. but compiz doesnt wanna let my windows go fullscreen... they appear like that for less than a second and then they go back to a 1024x768 window (without counting the decoration). Any ideas?
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> RomanaMentalis hda = first drive, hdb is second etc..   sdc1 would be hd2,0
[19:04] <_1n7rud3r> i couldnt join the debian server. the serv has a problem???
[19:04] <leftyfb> zamolxes: http://www.howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora
[19:04] <ASULutzy> mbrigdan: Here's an interesting paper on RSA encryption strength and roughly how many USD's someone would have to invest over what period of time to crack an X-bit key: http://www.offshore.com.ai/security/rivest-factoring.txt
[19:04] <macrobad> mbrigdan: RSA keys should be a bit longer, but 4096 still should be enough
[19:05] <RomanaMentalis> Jack_Sparrow:  thank you
[19:05] <rj_> all I know is Ive tried to install/run virtualbox on sabayon where it comes preinstalled, win xp where it almost worked, and now ubuntu.  as to weather or not it trashed my machine. all I can tell you is I had spent a lot of time on a new install of ubuntu getting everything tweaked just right and running well.  then I used synaptic package manager to install both virtualbox and wine at the same time.  at first everything seemed okay, -- did not tr
[19:05] <rj_> y to run virtualbox -- played with wine for a bit and then rebooted.  during reboot ubuntu complained about my screen resolution not being vaild.  after I reinstalled ubuntu and got everything working again as it had been *6 hours, krap!*   -- then i installed only wine and everything was fine.  so I conclude that either virtualbox trashed my system or the combination of wine and virtualbox did it.  but wine alone is fine.  and after all those bad
[19:05] <rj_> experiences I am through with virtualbox.
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:05] <ASULutzy> zamolxes: I've only ever tried one of those, installing form USB flash, and it was very simple, though I'm sure the others wouldw ork
[19:05] <mbrigdan> macrobad: my key is 16384 bits, i'm guessing thats enough
[19:05] <snar2> How can I modify the GNOME pop up menu, the one that is opened by right clicking on the desktop?  I would like to add items, remove items, and so on.
[19:05] <zamolxes> thanks leftyfb
[19:05] <genii> zamolxes: I've had good success with PXE method
[19:06] <zamolxes> ASULutzy: how did you get the installer on the flash drive?
[19:06] <leftyfb> genii: a pxe server is required for that
[19:06] <RomanaMentalis> Jack_Sparrow:  When I try to install Grub on (hd2, 0) I get a fatal error
[19:06] <ASULutzy> rj_: I would be very surprised if virtualbox actually trashed your system, but who knows. Either way if you choose to use VMWare, it's pretty straight forward, just go to their website and download/install it.
[19:06] <leftyfb> zamna: pendrivelinux.com
[19:06] <dennis_> Hallo
[19:06] <Logrusmage> Hey can anyone help me with my MythTV backend set up? I'm getting some big errors, I think it might have to do with multiple mysql.txt files but deleting them seems to do nothing (they reappear) anyone know how to help?
[19:06] <zamolxes> well I have 0 experience with either of the methods I listed, that's why I asked which one is easier :)
[19:06] <kevinO> can someone tell me how i can make grep search a whole directory of files for the text string "Add Items"
[19:06] <Xavura> I need help with xorg.conf
[19:06] <Xavura> It's totally messed up.
[19:06] <leftyfb> kevinO: man grep
[19:06] <genii> leftyfb: He mentioned he could PXE boot the installer from off his laptop already
[19:07] <leftyfb> kevinO: that will teach you how to use grep
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> RomanaMentalis do you have three drives?
[19:07] <ASULutzy> zamolxes: I just googled like, Ubuntu live-usb... Let me see if I can find the exact article... I actually setup a persistent USB live-drive, which is even more useful
[19:07] <leftyfb> genii: ah, sorry, missed that part
[19:07] <dennis_> I want to Update pidgin how can i do this
[19:07] <Xavura> Can anyone help me fix my computer?
[19:07] <inik1>  Xavura: what's happens?
[19:07] <leftyfb> dennis-: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:07] <macrobad> mbrigdan: You're going to gain a lot of time to drink tea, I believe, without much enchancing your security. "enough" means, that nowadays people'd need 100 or so years to decrypt it.
[19:07] <leftyfb> dennis-: or go and download it from getdeb.net
[19:07] <snar2> kevinO: grep "add Items" \*
[19:07] <RomanaMentalis> Jack_Sparrow:  I have 4 hard drives, 2 of them are combined into one virtual disk (Raid1) and the other 2 are nothing yet, I installed Ubuntu on the virtual disk (sdc1)
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> dennis_ are you trying to fix icq
[19:08] <Xavura> inik1: Someone was helping me edit xorg.conf, so that I can have output to my monitor and TV, it kind of worked as the TV output now works but it broke everything else
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> RomanaMentalis That wont work for raid...
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[19:08] <ASULutzy> zamolxes: Doing some quick googling, it looks like someone has made a script that automates it... you could /join #liveusb
[19:08] <mbrigdan> macrobad: it only took about 10 mins to make the key, will it have an effect on how long it takes to ssh to the machine?
[19:08] <kevinO> thank you snar2
[19:08] <Xavura> inik1: When I turn on my PC it says, Ubuntu is in low graphics mode, we can not detect your screena nd graphics card
[19:08] <Xavura> and my screen is like 600x400 or something stupid and I can't fi xit
[19:09] <snar2> kevinO: your welcome
[19:09] <inik1> Xavura:  i try to speak in separate private window. ok?
[19:09] <Xavura> Alright
[19:09] <Xavura> and also on the TV, the colours look messed up
[19:09] <Xavura> and the resolution is messed up
[19:09] <leftyfb> inik1: please keep help in this public channel
[19:09] <Xavura> Everything is messed up!
[19:09] <zod21> xavura download 915 resolution
[19:09] <Xavura> leftyfb: err no, this channel moves too fast for what I need help with
[19:09] <macrobad> mbrigdan: It shouldn't.
[19:09] <Xavura> You can't make people give help in here...
[19:09] <leftyfb> inik1: Taking help discussions to PM doesn't help anyone else having similar problems or other people who might be able to help you
[19:10] <Xavura> Err
[19:10] <Xavura> I seriously doubt anyone else is having this problem
[19:10] <ASULutzy> zamolxes: this is the article I used: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:10] <zod21> start a new chatroom, it gets crazy in here
[19:10] <leftyfb> Xavura: I know for a fact that your problem has come up many times
[19:10] <Xavura> My point exactly.
[19:10] <QuickGold> what is the default location of the apache conf file in Ubuntu?
[19:10] <ASULutzy> !enter | Xavura
[19:10] <trakinas> QuickGold: /etc/apache2/
[19:10] <Musli> YO :P
[19:10] <QuickGold> trakinas: thanks
[19:11] <mbrigdan> macrobad: if I wanted to make a key that was twice as big, would it take twice as long, the square as long, or somewhere in between?
[19:11] <macrobad> QuickGold: /etc/apache/apache2.conf
[19:11] <Xavura> Bugger off with the !enter thing.
[19:12] <macrobad> mbrigdan: Well, it should work like this, but you're looking in a wrong place to enchance your security.
[19:12] <leftyfb> Xavura: these are the rules
[19:12] <Xavura> I'm just going to ignore the bot... it's annoying, I get it SO much if I even so much as hit return ONCE mid-sentencwe
[19:12] <asulao> hello. got a problem. gnome doesn't seem to start. terminal shows connect attempts to port 16001. Any thoughts ?
[19:12] <Xavura> It's a habit, give me a break
[19:12] <leftyfb> Xavura: the bot didn't initiate the message to you.
[19:12] <trakinas> Xavura: break your habit
[19:12] <filo1234> !purge
[19:12] <trakinas> irc isnt msn or whatever.
[19:12] <filo1234> !puregnome
[19:13] <asulao> !purge
[19:13] <zod21> sudo apt-get purge whatever here
[19:13] <asulao> !puregnome
[19:13] <Pici> asulao: Please see ubottu's response above.
[19:13] <kevinO> snar2, i get grep: *: No such file or directory
[19:13] <mbrigdan> macrobad: well, I probably won't really use this key much, I just wanted to know how much I could do. Hopefully someone doesn't make a working quantum computer soon.
[19:14] <filo1234> !purekde
[19:14] <dennis_> i got Gusty what can i do for Pidgin update with ICQ
[19:14] <macrobad> mbrigdan: If he makes, then even 100K bit key won't help. Thus, let's take it easy! :)
[19:15] <asulao> Pici: I did not install KDE, just gnome. Anyway now it seemed to log in Ok, but showing an error dialog box, that reads: There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.  Some things such as themes, etc.......
[19:15] <asulao> !puregnome
[19:15] <Pici> !msgthebot | asulao
[19:15] <[gnubie]> i'm already confused with my ssh problem.. anyone cares to check this site =>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/27530/