[07:52] <rdw200169> bullgard4, directly from upstart (the replacement for init) you can find what happens in recovery mode (as far as login is concerned) in: /etc/event.d/rcS and /etc/event.d/rcS-sulogin
[07:52] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: man fsck.vfat
[07:52] <itai> ortsvorsteher, thanks
[07:52] <tv7497> sockets: what about free bsd sir ? i have lost interest in windows :D
[07:52] <bullgard4> rdw200169: I will study it carefully.
[07:52] <ortsvorsteher> np
[07:52]  * ortsvorsteher is afk
[07:53] <rdw200169> bullgard4, yes, read the documentation for 'upstart' and the boot process for ubuntu.  you will find much on this in the ubuntu wiki and on the upstart website
[07:54] <sockets> tv7497 : try this recommendation (still use the lastest 2.1.2 though, try 1.6.2 if all else fails) - http://fixunix.com/freebsd/539022-re-virtualbox-2-0-2-freebsd-7-x64-guest-install-crashes.html
[07:55] <tv7497> sockets: thank you sir thanks a lot
[07:55] <mmm4m5m> sockets: what about my qestion :) - two empty directories in 'lost+found' - is it bad
[07:55] <itai> ortsvorsteher, thanks but still get Unable to mount location
[07:55] <Montblanc_Kupo> I have a hopefully very easy info question if anyone has a second.
[07:56] <bnagy> rww: if you're interested, removing and DLing from main repo worked. My fastest repo's copy must be broken or something weird
[07:56] <bnagy> weird
[07:56] <sockets> mmm4m5m, no there's nothing wrong with that
[07:56] <Mean_Admin> I seriously need a sanity check: does this look like a good way to do incremental backups http://pastebin.com/m328f0cd3
[07:57] <mmm4m5m> sockets: good to know. thank you.
[07:58] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: hummm i do not think I am doing it right I typed "sudo dosfsck -a /dev/sda1"  but I can not tell that it did anything since the output was instant "dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN     Cluster size is zero"
[08:00] <itai> arvind_khadri, nope...i guess the disc is dead
[08:01] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: hmm... That's not what I expected. And if you ad the -v -l switches?
[08:01] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: ad -> add
[08:01] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: I am not expert, but does not look good to me. It depends what results you want. Check #bash forum.
[08:01] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: all right thanks :)
[08:03] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: check rdiff-backup. I am not sure if you like it about  music backup - compression will be useless in this case. Still, you will get time backups, you will be able to restore old versions.
[08:03] <Like> wow
[08:03] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: it get "dosfsck 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)" then "dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN" and then "Cluster size is zero"   but according the MAN it seems i should see "exit status:" 0, 1, or 2
[08:04] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: for the moment, I will settle for a bash scrip that makes sense :S it's kinda backwards so it's weird
[08:04] <ryth> hi.. I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 and I don't seem to have any sound... would anyone have an idea how this might be fixed?
[08:04] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: you can find oud the exit status of the previous command with echo $?
[08:05] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: it looks to me, that you rotate backup folders in opposite way :) - backup3 to backup2, must be backup2 to backup3 (again, not expert)
[08:06] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: actually, this is excercise of logic, not really of expertise so you're better than me there already, but I have a new iteration (http://pastebin.com/m4c59fa2b)
[08:07] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix:  ok it said 0   so does actually work that quick?  In windows this takes about 20 seconds or so... but this way seemed to be instant (not even one second)
[08:08] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: Do you have only a few files on the drive?
[08:08] <ryth> I'm trying to install a program but it gives me the error "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core" anyone know where to get this and how to install it?
[08:08] <kriss3d_> odd.. it seems as if the sound when running ubuntu is very low.. where the sound in windows gets alot higher.. are there more than one place it could be turned down ?
[08:09] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: yes there is hardly anything on it.... but just as a guess I tried another partition that is about 60 Gigs with 20 used and it was instant too
[08:09] <nikos__> hi
[08:09] <nikos__> hi
[08:09] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: finally you do not need rsync. You will lost backup0 next time when you run the script.
[08:10] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: hmm... I agree with you that it should take more time.
[08:10] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: is the file system mounted?
[08:10] <initial_B> is WORD "satisfiable"  adjective ? i cant find dic..
[08:10] <Mean_Admin> well backup 0 will be cp as backup1
[08:11] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: yes it is mounted
[08:11] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: I think that's the problem. Please unmount it furst
[08:11] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: furst -> first
[08:12] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: since you cannot make changes to a mounted fs.
[08:12] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: same result on both drives
[08:12] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: what about simple tar (date/time in dest file name), something like: tar /media/timevault/Music.$(date).backup0' /media/library/Music
[08:12] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: maybe that;s thew way I should roll..
[08:12] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: do not execute it, check tar parameters first :) pls
[08:13] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: yeah that's why I come crying ehre
[08:13] <Mean_Admin> here*
[08:13] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: I'm running out of options here... Anyone else has a good idea?
[08:15] <soroush> hi. my system says it cannot lock the resource /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11
[08:15] <soroush> while i want to update it
[08:16] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: is there not a GUI app like system tools or something to scan disks and partitions for errors?
[08:17] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: gparted can do it, i think
[08:17] <soroush> I have no other update programme open
[08:18] <mmm4m5m> hellhound_: e2fsck
[08:18] <ph0t0nix> mmm4m5m: his partition is FAT32
[08:18] <keith11313> hi, is there a way to delete an extended partion, without killing the partions inside of it
[08:19] <neosisani> how does one enable touchpad in ubuntu? is there some option in system or do i have to edit xorg.conf?
[08:20] <hellhound_> mmm4m5m: the man says that is only for ext2 or ext3 file systems not FAT32
[08:20] <bamhm182> test
[08:20] <bamhm182> alright, cool
[08:21] <mmm4m5m> hellhound_: Sorry. If you are interested: 'Ultimate Boot CD' (there are two versions in internet). Free live CDs with many dos and rescue tools. Sometimes, I use it for my ntfs partitions. Note, it is free, could be bad.
[08:22]  * mmm4m5m two versions = two different web sites
[08:22] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: I think i found the problem .. it is not /dev/sda1 but I don't know what it is... I looked in Gparted adn realized that sda1 is an empty partition on my harddrive.
[08:24] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: aha, that helps :-)
[08:24] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: according to Nautilus the device is located at gphoto2://[usb:003,005]/DCIM/101CANON   but what /dev/ would that be?
[08:25] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: I should have seen that, since /dev/sda is usually not an external drive
[08:25] <Matzi> is it normal for installation on vista to be a pain?
[08:25] <ph0t0nix> if it is mounted, you can use the mount command to find out which device is mounted
[08:26] <neosisani> nvm fixed
[08:26] <mmm4m5m> hellhound_: 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-id'
[08:26] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: okay, one last logic try (assuming hard link means file stays alive if at least one hard link remains), does this script make sense (http://pastebin.com/m5a250337)
[08:27] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: Maybe http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p10.htm can also help you out
[08:29] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: The same error like previous version. Check this: http://pastebin.com/m7c51f2b4 . Best ask #bash, you will find better solution and will learn something more.
[08:30] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: oookay thanks
[08:30] <xC> can i run ubuntu tweak in xubuntu?
[08:30] <kgee> hi all from N.Z
[08:33] <Charles> Hello, Does anyone know of a good gdm editor?
[08:35] <kgee> hi Charles does anyone talk on here
[08:36] <sybux> Hi all. I've a little issue install moodle on my system. I mispell the mysql user and I don't know where to change it in the dpkh configuration
[08:36] <tleuser_> ร
[08:36] <tleuser_> hi
[08:36] <mmm4m5m> xC: Ask #xubuntu (for me, looks like ubuntu tweaks is for gnome and gnome applications in ubuntu. Do you have gnome in xubuntu)
[08:36] <tleuser_> ไครเป็นคนไทยมั่ง
[08:36] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: movie -rating -year body of lies
[08:36] <Giggles> MeVsTheVoices: Rating: 7.4, Votes: 16031. Year: 2008.
[08:37] <Decepticon> is there some way to figure out what my wireless key is, i dont want to reboot my router, ive got a lot of saved settings in the router
[08:37] <tleuser_> มีคนไทยใช้_สำ_ป่าว
[08:37] <tleuser_> xjk;
[08:37] <Chousuke> tleuser_: english only here.
[08:37] <Enissay> Hi i'm using the proprietary driver for my radeon x1650 gpu, a new driver is out since 01/29. but the hardware driver manager dosn't update it... how can I do so please?
[08:37] <tleuser_> ใช้tleป่าว
[08:38] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: movie -rating -year afro samurai resurrection
[08:38] <CQ2> hello, if I put a script in /etc/cron.daily, it should run daily without having to change anythign else, right? Where is the output logged?
[08:38] <Giggles> MeVsTheVoices: Rating: 8.1, Votes: 522. Year: 2009.
[08:38] <Charles> Hello, Does anyone know of a good gdm editor?
[08:39] <kgee> how do i install gnome do
[08:39] <Charles> !gnome kgee
[08:39] <Charles> lol
[08:39] <Charles> i so messed that up
[08:39] <mmm4m5m> Enissay: by default, updates get latest from ubuntu repositories. Check vendor web site (and google) how to install latest version (hope it is stable)
[08:41] <Charles> Is there a GDM editor or do you have to compile from code
[08:43] <ChronosZA> has/does anyone else use Evolution and it claims to be sending emails from the outbox but never actually does?
[08:48] <sam1357> hello people... am new to ubuntu am i in the right channel to ask for help?
[08:48] <Flannel> sam1357: Yep.  This is the place.
[08:48] <sam1357> thank you flannel
[08:49] <kgee> hi sam u and me r newbies
[08:49]  * ChronosZA is going to beat evolution with a sledge hammer
[08:49] <kgee> try thunderbird
[08:50] <ChronosZA> kgee : its downloading. just hope it can import the 2GB of email from Evolution :)
[08:50] <kgee> good luck
[08:50] <sam1357> i have a desktop and a lap top. desktop's at home and laptop is in the place where i study.. unfortunately i dont have internet access in my study place... so my doubt is if i can install ubuntu in my desktop, customise it to my hearts content, install all the needed applications, update it, then create a bootable disk, so i can install the custom ubuntu in my laptop
[08:51] <sam1357> hi kgee
[08:51] <ChronosZA> sam1357 : you "could" set it up one the  home pc and ghost/image it and restore it to the laptop. But I'm not sure how it will boot the new hardware.
[08:51] <kgee> hi sam
[08:52] <kgee> night all
[08:52] <sam1357> hi chronosZA.. hardware wise ubuntu works well with my laptop.....
[08:53] <sam1357> night kgee
[08:53] <keith11313> is wireless working out of the box
[08:53] <ChronosZA> kgee: ironic, im having my morning coffee :)
[08:53] <sybux> I've a little issue installing moodle on my system. I mispell the mysql user and I don't know where to change it in the dpkg configuration
[08:53] <sam1357> i don use wireless... so it aint a problem at all
[08:53] <kgee> 9.53pm in n.z
[08:53] <Flannel> sam1357: You can just install Ubuntu on each, then play around with the one you have internet access on, and then onceyou know what you want, you can sneakernet stuff over.  Apt On CD makes it relatively easily.
[08:53] <Flannel> !aptoncd | sam1357
[08:54] <ChronosZA> kgee : aah, 10h53 am in ZA. i have a friend who just moved there. says he likes it very much
[08:54] <ChronosZA> Flannel: didnt know that. very nice. thx.
[08:54] <sam1357> ok flannel thank you... will remastersys help???
[08:54] <kgee> za is that South Africa
[08:54] <Flannel> sam1357: Er, that used to have a link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD
[08:55] <keith11313> wireless is a big deal for laptops
[08:55] <sam1357> will definitely give it a try..
[08:55] <Flannel> sam1357: I've never used remastersys, and don't know a whole lot about it.  But I think it'd be more trouble than what its worth.
[08:56] <ChronosZA> great. there is no option for thunderbird to import mail from evolution
[08:56] <sam1357> ok flannel will keep you guys updated... thank you...thanks ChronosZA
[08:57] <ChronosZA> before i setup an imap server locally just to copy the mail from evolution to it and then back to thunderbird, is anyone aware of a tool that might do the job easier?
[08:58] <Flannel> ChronosZA: Doesn't Evolution just save it in Maildir on the disk?
[08:58] <ChronosZA> Flannel : i think so?
[08:58] <Flannel> ChronosZA: Thunderbird ought to be able to import a Maildir folder (or just use the Maildir, but I don't know specifics)
[08:59] <ChronosZA> Flannel: yeah i see evolution stuck everthing in .evolution/mail in my home folder as maildirs.
[08:59] <ChronosZA> hmmm. lemme create a profile in thunderbird then see what import options i get.
[09:00] <kompi07> mardi
[09:03] <ChronosZA> Flannel: it worked :)
[09:03] <ChronosZA> Flannel: created the same mailbox as on Evolution, copied the inbox maildir from evolution over the one in the thunderbird mail directory and restarted thunderbird and its all there :)
[09:04] <tramp> whats up everyone?
[09:05] <jedi007> how do you check if you have a 64bit ubuntu again? uname -a
[09:05] <mmm4m5m> Question: how to make NVidia rebuild automatically after kernel update. I have NVidia (9600GT) drivers NVidia web site. All works, except it does not rebuild automatically after kernel auto updates.
[09:05] <ryth> anyone know how to reset sound issues in ubuntu?
[09:06] <ryth> is anyone alive?
[09:07] <mmm4m5m> ryth: Reset to default settings or restart? 'sudo /etc/init.d/alsa... restart'. Sometimes does not work for me, so I have to: 'sudo modprobe snd...'
[09:07] <unknown> hello, anyone known how to convert CR2 files to jpg?
[09:08] <ryth> I'm pretty much completely new to linux.. I had it installed once on this computer before with 8.04 and the sound never gave me any problems.  I just installed 8.10 and sound isn't working...
[09:08] <travis13> How long should I let the ubuntu alternate installer sit at "preparing to install gimp" before i give up?
[09:09] <unknown> my Father has vista and can't see pictures from baby 1 birthday :/
[09:09] <ryth> mmm4m5m: what is the command again?
[09:09] <mmm4m5m> ryth: sorry, not a expert. Command will not help. I do use it after I play game and sound just stop.
[09:10] <mmm4m5m> ryth: what you told is - sound not working after upgrade and reboot
[09:10] <ryth> I typed the first one and it says "sudo:/etd/init.d/alsa: command not found"
[09:10] <travis13> etc
[09:10] <mmm4m5m> hit 'tab' twice after alsa (I write there '...')
[09:11] <ryth> yea etc... sorry
[09:11] <ryth> k
[09:11] <ryth> trying again...
[09:11] <mmm4m5m> it must be alsasound and alsa-utils. Again I am not expert and looks like it will not help.
[09:13] <fanooz> hi for help. bunty broked. put in the new point of mountation on /etc/fstab to new disk /dev/sda31. bunty no boot. grub and no lilo will not boot? no y bunty broked?
[09:13] <fanooz> please to help
[09:14] <ryth> brb going to restart
[09:14] <fanooz> hi for help. bunty broked. put in the new point of mountation on /etc/fstab to new disk /dev/sda31. bunty no boot. grub and no lilo will not boot? no y bunty broked?
[09:15] <cynicismic> sda31?
[09:15] <cynicismic> surely sda3?
[09:15] <fanooz> oh no and mistake /sda3
[09:15] <fanooz> yes
[09:15] <fanooz> cynicismic no boot and broked. bunty no start
[09:15] <cynicismic> you don't even get as far as grub boot screen?
[09:16] <Guest29352> hello ppl, my ip changes each time I restart the machine, is there a way to stop that from happening?
[09:16] <fanooz> yes grub but no booty boot boot
[09:16] <Light-> fanooz, are you trolling?
[09:16] <fanooz> Guest29352 are you joking?
[09:16] <fanooz> Light- no, and I resent that.
[09:16] <Guest29352> nope
[09:16] <tv7497> guys how do i get or install gtk murrine engine or aurora engine in my ibex i need this to make my dust theme work
[09:16] <fanooz> Guest29352 which IP exactly?
[09:16] <Guest29352> my external ip
[09:17] <fanooz> Guest29352 your ISP will assign a different IP everytime you connect via DHCP etc.
[09:17] <fanooz> Guest29352 you can't do anything about it
[09:17] <Guest29352> :(
[09:17] <fanooz> Guest29352 if you want to be able to use your changing address get a dynamic dns service domain
[09:17] <cynicismic> do you get any errors on boot?
[09:17] <fanooz> cynicismic fixed it. thanks
[09:17] <Light-> Guest29352, you could also buy a static IP off your ISP
[09:18] <mmm4m5m> :)
[09:18] <fanooz> Light- he doesn't have to go to those extremes. Especially when he doesn't even know about dynamic and static IPs
[09:18] <mmm4m5m> fanooz: how did you fix it :)
[09:18] <Guest29352> the second option is better for me, thanks
[09:19] <fanooz> Guest29352 why, what are you doing?
[09:19] <fanooz> cynicismic i just kept slapping my box until it worked
[09:19] <Guest29352> I need a static ip for my apache, cause if it changes every time I need to run the no-ip client every time I reboot
[09:20] <Guest29352> and i'm quite a newby to servers
[09:20] <fanooz> lol
[09:20] <ChronosZA> ermm. your ip is assigned by the ISP, apache doesnt really care.
[09:20] <ChronosZA> it listens on interface ports.
[09:20] <Guest29352> no-ip cares hahah
[09:21] <fanooz> Guest29352 er .. no-ip IS a dynamic dns service LOL
[09:21] <Guest29352> ?
[09:22] <well> hi guys, when i am closing files in vim until the last one, syntax will off automatically, why? thx
[09:22] <Light-> Guest29352, the whole point of no-ip is that it doesnt care
[09:22] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: "When configured correctly, the client will check your IP address at a given time interval checking to see if your IP has changed"
[09:22] <fanooz> Guest29352 you should get a better understanding of what is actually happening with apache and your IP address
[09:22] <Abracadabra> Hi
[09:22] <Guest29352> :(
[09:22] <Guest29352> cool day
[09:23] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i just did df and it says 100% usage on one drive, ive deleted loads of stuff via the terminal, but its still 100% do i have to empty the recycle bin or something(if so, how from the terminal)?
[09:23] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: (not expert) looks like no-ip is not auto started after boot
[09:23] <Abracadabra> On Ubuntu, what is the method to get the wifi (WEP and WPA) and commands to set it up (from CLI if possible) ?
[09:23] <fanooz> Guest29352 well, go get a static IP from your ISP then. Get ready to fend off attacks though :-)
[09:24] <fanooz> Guest29352 you can get a client that will connect to no-ip everytime your IP changes
[09:24] <fanooz> Guest29352 hell, I could write you shell script that will do it
[09:24] <fanooz> you could cron it and run it every 10 mins or so
[09:24] <BlackDalek> Does anyone know how to get sound in Skype?
[09:25] <fanooz> pump up the volume, pump up the volume
[09:25] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: btw, when IP is changed, it will takes time to spread. If your IP changes every time and you do now want to wait, you need static IP
[09:25] <fanooz> mmm4m5m that is true. Except I've found with ddns.nu they propogate out the address very quickly
[09:26] <fanooz> mmm4m5m within 5 mins
[09:26] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352, fanooz: ok, my info is old :)
[09:26] <Guest29352> in my case in only takes a couple of minutes
[09:26] <fanooz> mmm4m5m no, you are right for most dynamic dns providers
[09:26] <fanooz> some take days lol
[09:26] <fanooz> Guest29352 then what is your problem lol
[09:26] <fanooz> Guest29352 all you want is a client that updates the no-ip dns servers
[09:27] <Guest29352> having to open the browser , login and update the ip each time i reboot
[09:27] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: do you have no-ip package installed? configured? auto started?
[09:27] <Guest29352> that's a problem cause I reboot oftenly
[09:27] <Guest29352> desktop package?
[09:27] <fanooz> Guest29352 I'll say it slowly. You. Can. Get. A. Client. That. Updates. Automatically.
[09:27] <ChronosZA> Guest29352: are u connecting with a wireless router? or some kind of router?
[09:28] <Guest29352> n router
[09:28] <Guest29352> no router
[09:28] <Light-> adsl modem most likely
[09:28] <ChronosZA> oh. ok so u need a client
[09:28] <fanooz> Guest29352 hell, it's one of no-ip's features; Free dynamic DNS update client
[09:28] <Guest29352> ok, I'll google for such a client
[09:28] <fanooz> Guest29352 you can get it to run either everytime you reboot or when your IP changes
[09:29] <fanooz> Guest29352 it's on their site!
[09:29] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: "no-ip" deb package (even with updated IP, if you reboot often, I will not be able to access your servers)
[09:29] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/no-ip
[09:29] <ari_stress> when we do package update, is it true that only kernel update needs a reboot?
[09:29] <Guest29352> thanks guys
[09:30] <fanooz> Guest29352 consider the whole exercise a learning experience. And I suggest you get better aquainted with what is actually happening with your server, it'll help in the long run :-)
[09:30] <ChronosZA> mmm4m5m: is correct, although no-ip refreshes every 5 mins, that can be overriden by the cache servers in isps elsewhere, i know here in ZA they often set it to 10mins.
[09:30] <fanooz> Guest29352 then work up to programming Berkeley Sockets in C
[09:30] <Guest29352> oh, what's that....
[09:30] <Guest29352> :(
[09:30] <fanooz> ChronosZA well, that was me. But don't confuse HIM!
[09:31] <ChronosZA> fanooz: sorry. ill sit in the corner and shuttup. i need more coffee anyway :)
[09:31] <fanooz> ChronosZA it's beer o clock here
[09:31] <mmm4m5m> :)
[09:31] <ChronosZA> fanooz : where's here?
[09:31] <remoteCTR1> i have a permissions problem with an nfs volume, can someone help me with that pls?
[09:32] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: maybe you could tell us a little more about what exactly is the permission problem
[09:32] <fanooz> Guest29352 do you understand what we are saying? You need to run the update client every time you either reboot or re-connect. You can configure this to happen automatically. No need to do it manually.
[09:32] <fanooz> ChronosZA australia
[09:32] <fanooz> 8:30pm
[09:33] <ChronosZA> fanooz: oh. yeah our beer is better here. sorry man :)
[09:33] <fanooz> lol that's cool. I'd rather have worse beer and live here ;-)
[09:33] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: i am trying to backup my workstation to an nfs mounted volume, if i do it as user i get access errors on the workstation (perm ission denied), if i do it with gksudo i get the permission problems on the nfs-volume... how can i solve that?
[09:33] <Guest29352> I installed the .deb
[09:33] <ChronosZA> Guest29352: unless the website u wanna host is overly complicated, i would just invest a few $ in a hosting site on the net. they're cheap, and they are on dedicated lines so no ip hassles.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:34] <ChronosZA> yo.
[09:34] <fanooz> ChronosZA yeah, but he wants to learn about it
[09:34] <fanooz> no harm in that
[09:34] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: pastebin what the mount command gives you
[09:34] <Guest29352> I want to learn stuff, nothin' more
[09:34] <mano> \list
[09:34] <ChronosZA> fanooz: linode.com :)
[09:34] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: the mount command works perfect, gives nothing in return
[09:34] <Guest29352> ok, now I installed the client , how do I run it?
[09:34] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: I don't believe that comment
[09:35] <fanooz> Guest29352 it doesn't have any documentation?
[09:35] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: well what do you want me to paste then?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> scizzo-: in linux, no news is good news
[09:35] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: what I mean is: Type "mount" only in the terminal......not anything else and pastebin the output
[09:35] <fanooz> Guest29352 from the site: "Our dynamic DNS update client continually checks for IP address changes in the background and automatically updates the DNS at No-IP whenever it changes."
[09:35] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: ah! hehe, sec pls
[09:36] <fanooz> Guest29352 so once it's installed you are good to go
[09:36] <ChronosZA> Guest29352: have u setup a no-ip account?
[09:36] <Guest29352> so once installed it does its job without any need from me to bother it? that'd be cool
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest29352: i use that service, i run the windows client via wine after spending an eternity trying to get the linux client running
[09:36] <fanooz> Guest29352 yep
[09:36] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: that would be this: http://nopaste.org/p/aqKEHaZ5d
[09:36] <fanooz> Guest29352 I do the same kind of thing with about 30 dynamic domains
[09:37] <Guest29352> ok, now I'm gonna reboot
[09:37] <fanooz> well, fixed domains, dynamic DNS ;-)
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest29352: it sends your account details every hour or so which will have an originating ip which will update the dns
[09:37] <Guest29352> wish me good luck hahahah
[09:37] <fanooz> good luck lol
[09:37] <fanooz> 'course I wrote my own updating client
[09:37] <ChronosZA> we are not worthy
[09:37] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: ls -d /backup
[09:38] <fanooz> well I had to .. they are all on different companies
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ok here's my puzzler
[09:38] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: klaus@katana:~$ ls -d /backup
[09:38] <remoteCTR1> /backup
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> if i have running apps on an x server, then ssh in with x forwarding enabled, is it possible to make the already running apps appear on the forwarded x server without having to kill / rerun theapp
[09:39] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: right I wanna know the permissions on /backup
[09:39] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: with screen maybe
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: its stuff like thunderbird
[09:39] <yabuk> what button of the keyboard is called "Meta"?
[09:40] <mmm4m5m> scizzo-: 'ls -dl /backup'
[09:40] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: drwxr-xr-x   2 nobody nogroup  4096 2009-02-02 10:32 backup
[09:40] <Reese> hi
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: it locks the mail files so I have to release them by killing it then rerunning it and the app appears fine on the remote system
[09:40] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: that explains a lot
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Reese
[09:40] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: yeah the only way that i know of to "resume" running apps is with the screen command...
[09:40] <Reese> thanks
[09:40] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: the nobody nogroup thingie i guess you mean right?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: hmm, i'lllook into it some
[09:41] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: :)
[09:41] <fanooz> hmm gotta take a large dump ...
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: i'd love that, or a web interface to the locally stored emails, either is good
[09:41] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: well part of it yes
[09:41] <Reese> nice fanoox
[09:41] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: point is: if i use it as my nomral user. ie. klauis it works just fine, but i cant execute rsync as user as that as said before returns me "permission denied's" on my filesystem
[09:42] <Guest66592> won't work, the domain listens to the old ip
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: then use UIDs to make rsync not need sudo (maybe)
[09:42] <Reese> login in as root then remotCTRL
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest66592: it'll take a while to get settled if its new
[09:42] <x__> hello
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Reese: don't advise that here
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Reese: its 1. HUGELY insecure, 2. Very unubuntu
[09:43] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: not sure if i follow...?
[09:43] <Guest66592> I run no-ip in terminal and I get this : "Can't locate configuration file /etc/no-ip.conf. (Try -c). Ending!"
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Reese: eneabling the root account can severly damage system security
[09:43] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: rsync is something I don't know much of...however my question would then be if its the source dir or the dest dir that gives the error
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: you can sorta make some apps not need sudo
[09:43] <remoteCTR1> Reese: and after all that dont change anything, alredy tried it...
[09:44] <jordan___> is there a shortcut to get a terminal up?
[09:44] <doktoreas> hello everybody..I am using ubuntu server edition with automatic updates..how can I check wich packages have been upgraded?
[09:44] <Reese> right I guess so. Thats about the quickest way to do it though if it has to do with permissions.... oh in that case nvm then
[09:44] <Reese> hmmm
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: if you look in keyboard settings you can assign one
[09:44] <Winball> jordan___: You can create a keyboard-shortcut with gnome-keybinding-properties
[09:44] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: that depends on what user i execute it with; if as user then the local filesystem gives the permission denieds, if as superuser the nfs-volume mocks
[09:44] <Winball> jordan___: I use the «menu» button on my keyboard for terminal
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: or install tilda and you can have one dropping from the top of the screen like in doom / quake / half life
[09:45] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: umm within the sudoers file you mean?
[09:45] <jordan___> i might as well use the windows key
[09:45] <jordan___> since it doesn't do anything
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: not sure, i believe its something to do with UIDs
[09:45] <Noob> Hi, where and how can I intstall that Boot Manager?
[09:45] <skoef> wg habbie
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: you can assign any key you like to it
[09:45] <jordan___> where do i go to do that?
[09:45] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: but those correspond to the usernames, don't they?
[09:45] <silv3r_m00n> hi there... i installed some updates from synaptic yesterday and today I see the panels are not coming in gnome desktop
[09:45] <silv3r_m00n> why ?
[09:45] <Snupt> hello. Where can I find Wavelet decompose filter for Ubuntu (deb package)?
[09:45] <Noob> Because I deleted the Ubuntu Partition, but now I can't load vista. I don't have the install disk, and I can't re-install ubuntu.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: if you use kde, yakuake is the kde equiv
[09:46] <Reese> gotta go I have to get to sleep.
[09:46] <Snupt> filter for GIMP
[09:46] <Reese> bye
[09:46] <remoteCTR1> Noob: have a look at supergrub disk
[09:46] <jordan___> i don't know if i use kde i think i use gnome
[09:46] <Noob> Where can I just download the file to install it?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: if you have a bar at the top and a bar at the bottom its gnome
[09:47] <Noob> Supergrub disk?
[09:47] <Noob> Ok.
[09:47] <jordan___> yes gnome
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: sudo apt-get install tilda; tilda &; clear
[09:47] <Noob> I would have kept Ubuntu if the updates weren't so slow.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: that will run it, if you like it, add the tilda command to your startup
[09:47] <remoteCTR1> Noob: its a disk that you gotta burn and google is your friend man;)
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: if you don't, uninstall
[09:48] <jordan___> k got it thanks
[09:48] <Noob> Ok, thanks. Will that let me boot up vista again?
[09:48] <lorenzosu> !symlink
[09:48] <remoteCTR1> Noob: its got some options with wich you can fix the master boot record to boot your windows in the future, yes
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Noob: you will need to add a vista entry to /boot/grub/menu.list
[09:49] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: he purged ubuntu
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Noob: if you have removed linux you will need to fixmbr from vista cd
[09:49] <Noob> How do I do that?
[09:49] <Noob> I don't have the Vista CD, it came pre-installed on my laptop.
[09:49] <remoteCTR1> Noob: just use the supergrub disk that'll do the magic
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Noob: if you no longer have linux on your system you are in the wrong place
[09:50] <raevol> i can't seem to get sound from 2 programs at the same time, i am running alsa .19 from the upgrade script in the forum, is this an ubuntu problem or an alsa problem?
[09:50] <Noob> I am using ubuntu at the moment, I'm running it from a CD-rom.
[09:50] <iPeter-> Hey, is it possible when choosing "Open containing folder" in uTorrent to open it in Nautilus? Using Ubuntu 8.04.2
[09:50] <remoteCTR1> raevol: you need a soundserver in order for that to work, basically ubuntu comes with pulseaudio
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: utorrent is a windos app yes?
[09:51] <cakey> you dont need sound...
[09:51] <raevol> remoteCTR1, do you think because i used that upgrade script it borked pulseaudio? is there a way i could check if it's working right?
[09:51] <cakey> THE FINAL COUNTDOWN is now playing in your head!
[09:51] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, Yeah.
[09:51] <remoteCTR1> Noob: first of all please write the name of the person that you are talking to, second SUPERGRUB DISK IT IS
[09:51] <cakey> tenen ten
[09:51] <cakey> tenenen ten ten
[09:51] <cakey> tenenen ten
[09:51] <FloodBot1> cakey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: i'll have a look, i'm not sure its overly supported. Why didnt you use one on the billions of native clients
[09:51] <Noob> RemoteCTR1: Sorry. So, burn supergrub to a disk and run it, should let me boot vista like it did before I got reid of Linux?
[09:51] <remoteCTR1> raevol: look into your system/preferences/sound options and see what devices you have picked there
[09:52] <remoteCTR1> Noob: exactly
[09:52] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, I think deluge is crap and Transmission is too, so best client what i have used is uTorrent.
[09:52] <raevol> remoteCTR1, i see, its set on auto, should i set it to pulseaudio?
[09:52] <Noob> RemotreCTR1: Thanks!
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !torrents | iPeter-
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | iPeter-
[09:53] <lorenzosu> Anyone know a good clear explanation and guide to symlinks?
[09:53] <Nom-> Anyone know of any good event based monitoring systems?  When something breaks, I'd like an alert immediately, rather than on the next poll (like nagios)
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: ktorrent is similar to utorrent apparently
[09:53] <remoteCTR1> raevol: you can of course try and see what happens;)
[09:53] <iPeter-> I dont like of kde apps on gnome. :S
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: you are making a tonne of complication using a wndows client, lets see if I can find some nautilus goodness
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: im the same but vice versa
[09:54] <Noob> RemoteCTR1: Do I just burn the ISO Directly to the disk?
[09:54] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, Yeah, well it would be good if it would be possible to open it on nautilus, but if not, i maybe can live with it (:
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: do you by any chance run mirc as your irc client?
[09:54] <koshar2> iPeter whats wrong with transmission? i used to use utorrent through wine but i find transmissian great
[09:54] <remoteCTR1> Noob: err nope you neet to burn the iso, that is a cd file, dont just copy the iso to the disk that will not work
[09:55] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, it would be possible, but i'am running xChat, Why?
[09:55] <remoteCTR1> Noob: if you for example use gnomebaker to burn there is an option in tools menu "burn iso"
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: i just find that folks that run utorrent run mirc too
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: makes me laugh
[09:55] <Noob> RemoteCTR1: Problem, if I take out the disk, Ubuntu will shut down as I am having to run it straight from the Disk.
[09:55] <iPeter-> Lol
[09:56] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, I think xChat is on same level with mirc. I like of this.
[09:56] <Nom-> Torrents are so 2008
[09:56] <Nom-> Usenet ftw
[09:56] <zaggynl> ..
[09:56] <iPeter-> :d
[09:56] <Noob> Ubuntu has to be so hard to get rid of, doesn't it...
[09:56] <zaggynl> usenet, is so 1979
[09:56] <remoteCTR1> Noob: LOL well i am outa ideas then buddy...
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Noob: not with a true OS cd
[09:56] <Nom-> Dude.  Retro is back in.
[09:57] <Nom-> Didn't you get the memo?
[09:57] <zaggynl> I know, I love usenet
[09:57] <Noob> Well the DVD drive is refusing to open. This is so annoying.
[09:57] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:57] <zaggynl> why make something else if the old stuff works fine
[09:57] <silv3r_m00n> after doing some updates the panels in gnome desktop are not coming up
[09:57] <remoteCTR1> Noob: actually it isnt... its more like windows is hard to insert into a dual boot configuration and even harder to restore when giving up the dual boot...
[09:57] <zaggynl> then again, bittorrent was made to spread load
[09:58] <raevol> remoteCTR1, that didn't fix it :(
[09:59] <remoteCTR1> raevol: something wrong there then... tryed setting pulse and then reboot? maybe something s stuck there... not so uncommon nowadays unfortunately
[09:59] <M1Tn1Ck> salve vorrei chiedere come faccio ad aumentare i programmi installabili con wine-doors
[09:59] <raevol> remoteCTR1, did reboot actually. could pulse be using the old version of alsa that's still installed?
[10:00] <remoteCTR1> raevol: as far as i understand pulse does use alsa but dont nail me on that
[10:00] <Noob> I've got my hands on my sister's laptop.
[10:00] <remoteCTR1> Noob: then burn it there;)
[10:00] <zaggynl> you per--her laptop
[10:00] <zaggynl> nvm
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: i cant find anything dude, utorrent is a windows app so would expect he windows file manager by default
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: windows apps arent that smart so I dont know how you can make it use nautilus/thunar/rox-filer/whatever
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: all i can suggest is a native app which will be more stable as well as use a tonne less resources
[10:03] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, Okay, anyway thanks of helping.
[10:03] <Noob> Lol, reading here, does everyone hate Windows or something?
[10:03] <Winball> haha
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Noob: its ok, it has its place
[10:04] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, uTorrent wont take much of resources, i got enough good computer to run it without problems (lol), it have been working great so no need to change, yet.
[10:04] <raevol> anyone know anything about this issue? I can't get sound from multiple applications at once, new applications disable sound in already-running ones
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: its your system
[10:04] <iPeter-> (:
[10:04] <nightrid3r> Noob: no i love microsoft, theyr cd's make nice wall clocks :)
[10:04] <lorenzosu> Anyone know a good guide to symlink?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: man ln
[10:05] <nightrid3r> lorenzosu: man ln for start
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: its fairly straight forard, you create a link from somewhere to somewhere else
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: ln -s /path/to/file/to/link /path/to/new/location/link
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: the symlink takes zero extra space and the system will think there are 2 copies in the 2 positions
[10:06] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: thanks... Will applications funztion "correctly" if accessing /path/to/new/location/link?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: its also good for desktop shortcuts
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: sure, its transparent
[10:07] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Any risk in using it on NTFS?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: none as long as there is adequate access
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: also if you symlink a folder, the folder paths will simply lead into and out of each other
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: so if you 'cd' into a folder which is a symlink, then 'cd ..' you will be back where you started, not one folder up from the symlinked folder
[10:08] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Can you clarify this last point please?
[10:09] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Ah ok.
[10:09] <Noob> Ok, I'm getting pissed off now, my sister's computer can't burn disks...
[10:09] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Once it's set up can I have that symlink to the folder at every boot-up?
[10:09] <Nom-> symlinks are persistent
[10:10] <Noob> I'm going to have to wait until my dad gets back now, which will take hours.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: so if you have a folder called 'mp3s' on an smbmount, you can put a symlink in ~/ so when you 'cd' into it you will be in ~/mp3 which is really a folder on the remote system
[10:10] <Noob> I am NEVER using Ubuntu EVER again.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: its like any other file, its there til you delete it
[10:10] <Noob> I'm all for open source, but this is ridiculous.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Noob: its not for everyone
[10:10] <Noob> Sorry, I'm ranting.
[10:11] <lorenzosu> Noob: Try explaining your problem, there are people here willing to help ;)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Noob: removing the boot info you have has undone you, having a seperate boot partition of 10-20Mb can ease this
[10:11] <bob123> I plan on hiking and travelling a lot .. I am concerned about laptop with hard drive -- I am going to get this laptop http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10009253&prodlist=celebros ---  should I replace the HD with an SSD drive or will the HD be shock resistant enuff?
[10:11] <Noob> But I don't have anything to put in the partition, I'm going to try that supergrub thing.
[10:11] <Noob> If that doesn't work, I'm buggered.
[10:11] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Thanks, great explanation...
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> I personally think the guided / default partitioning is atrocious
[10:12] <lorenzosu> bob123: Depensds how many times you plan to drop it :)
[10:12] <bullgard4> /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.24/Documentationm68k/kernel-options.txt: "This document describes the valid kernel options for Linux/m68k in the version mentioned at the start of this file." Where can I find an equivalent document describing the kernel options for Linux/x86?
[10:12] <bob123> lorenzosu: hehe good question, I tend to toss my backpacks around, hrm
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | bullgard4
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: theres a few there
[10:13] <genewitch> Greetings. When i try to SSH into my machine, i get login and password, then it spits out "enter into CT 2270 failed" - then "Unable to open pty: No such file or directory" : i don't have physical access to this machine, but i can pass it bash commands and see the results and/or errors. it's been rebooted.
[10:13] <lorenzosu> bob123: Depends on what you plan doing with the laptop, if for example you'll be downloading loads of photos you need plenty of space, and SSD still seems quite expensive compared to "traditional" HD
[10:13] <bob123> true
[10:13] <bob123> I guess I need to find the specs on the hd that comes with the laptop? see what it can take?
[10:14] <Nom-> So does anyone know of any good monitoring software for Linux systems besides nagios ?
[10:14] <lorenzosu> bob123: You might consider getting an external USB disk to keep separate from the laptop for backup and in a safer, better protected place (say in the middle of your knapsack with lots of waterproof etc.
[10:14] <bob123> ooh
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: define monitoring
[10:14] <bob123> I didn't think of that!
[10:14] <bob123> thank you lorenzosu awesome idea :)
[10:15] <bob123> eek I feel dumb
[10:15] <bob123> perfect solution
[10:15] <Nom-> The basics to start with... load, memory, disk, etc... but i'm also chasing something that can be expanded to monitor other systems (like custom software we run)
[10:15] <lorenzosu> bob123: Would help to know what your scenario is though.. i.e. knowing how you'll be using your laptop etc.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> bob123: there is a lot to consider, i'd research lots before parting with any money
[10:15]  * bob123 shares a cookie with lorenzosu
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: superkaramba
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: conky
[10:15] <bob123> ActionParsnip: trrue true
[10:15] <gordonjcp> bob123: or, for that matter, a solid-state disk
[10:15] <bob123> lorenzosu: I am going to europe and doing a lot of hiking and back packing
[10:15] <gordonjcp> bob123: or even a USB flash drive ;-)
[10:16] <raevol> is there any way Intrepid is going to get a newer version of alsa soon? the lack of hardware support for my motherboard is depressing
[10:16] <bob123> but your idea of a usb stick is good
[10:16] <lorenzosu> bob123: ActionParsnip is giving a wise token as well..
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> bob123: swing by the uk and we'll go for a beer :)
[10:16] <Nom-> Ah, I'm talking about monitoring hundreds of servers
[10:16] <bob123> cause it's easy to encrypt it if stuff gets stolen?
[10:16] <howtoo> I'm looking for a publishing tool for linux, preferably GTK. Something like indesign.. Any suggestions?
[10:16] <lorenzosu> bob123: If you come to Rome I can offer pizza + beer lol
[10:16] <bob123> hehe thanks ActionParsnip :)
[10:16] <bob123> fun :)
[10:16] <Nom-> Which is why I used nagios as an example
[10:16] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common%20Boot%20Options: "This list is not comprehensive." Where can I find a more comprehensive list?
[10:16] <gabrielcz> Hello all.
[10:16] <lorenzosu> howtoo: Have you tried scribus?
[10:16] <howtoo> lorenzosu, nope
[10:16] <bob123> hey you can get a small SDHC card can't you? isn't athat simliar or no?
[10:17] <gabrielcz> how can I use on shell script with spaces!?
[10:17] <lorenzosu> !scribus
[10:17] <Noob> I reccomend AbiWord, if that's what you want.
[10:17] <gabrielcz> I mean, I need to use a name with spaces on shell script...
[10:17] <lorenzosu> howtoo: http://www.scribus.net/
[10:17] <Noob> !AbiWord
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: http://www.howtoforge.com/monitoring-multiple-systems-with-munin-debian-etch
[10:17] <howtoo> lorenzosu, looks like what I'm after, thanks Ill check it out =)
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> !info abiword
[10:17] <bob123> those little flash cards are same as usb stick?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: i'm sure it'll exist for ubuntu
[10:18] <lorenzosu> bob123: It depends on how much storage capacity you need.
[10:19] <bob123> lorenzosu: for my work related prolly about 4 gigs
[10:19] <lorenzosu> howtoo: You might also find inkscape of interest. It is more of a vector graphics app, but one can accomplish certain dtp tasks with it too.
[10:19] <bob123> documents and stuff
[10:19] <Noob> Can Ubuntu run .exe's?
[10:20] <Nom-> Yeah, that's pretty graphs by the looks of it, with no alarming when things go pear shaped
[10:20] <lorenzosu> bob123: If it's only doc and stuff you can now get fairly big USB sticks and SSD for reasanable price. If you go for SSd, though, check that your machine can read them.
[10:20] <howtoo> lorenzosu, yeah, I know Inkscape. But I'm after something to create some good looking documentation in, Scribus looks pretty much what I was looking for =)
[10:20] <bob123> yep good point
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Noob: with wine, it can run some. If its a driver file, cabextract can extract it
[10:20] <bob123> is truecrypt easy to use? I only fear someone getting my documents if stolen
[10:20] <Noob> ActionParsnip: So it can't just run and install a .exe? Great.
[10:21] <joeyjones_> any ideas for adding extra keys?
[10:21] <Nom-> I just wish nagios scaled better...
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Noob: if its a game / app, check the appdb for compatibility, I'd try find an open equiv
[10:21] <joeyjones_> my laptop kb has a dollar and euro key
[10:21] <lorenzosu> bob123: I don't know never used it. If you're really concerned about privacy, though, the first thing to think of is "physical" care.-
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Noob: as i said, consult the appdb
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Noob
[10:21] <Noob> It's that SuperGrub.
[10:21] <bob123> physical care?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Noob: not all apps work well and some flat refuse, some work great
[10:21] <bob123> yah just don't want my customer e-mail addresses in the wrong hands and stuff
[10:21] <lorenzosu> bob123: meaning, being very carefull it *doesn'té* get stiolen.
[10:21] <Noob> Would SuperGrub work under wine?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Noob: go check, click the link
[10:22] <howtoo> ewwh, QT3 apps really looks horrible =)
[10:22] <Noob> !info SuperGrub
[10:22] <bob123> lorenzosu: true .. handcuff to my body :)
[10:22] <lorenzosu> bob123: Well if you're working for the CIA or something I guess so :)
[10:22] <Hew> what is a command that displays general info about the devices/partitions on a system?
[10:22] <bob123> I just like to go over worst case scenarios is all
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Hew: sudo fdisk -l
[10:23] <bob123> I was born with a murphy's law genen hehe
[10:23] <bob123> err gene
[10:23] <lorenzosu> bob123: It's a good approach. Also there also a common-sense in security..
[10:23] <Noob> RANT: Why is ubuntu so fucking awkward?!
[10:23] <Hew> ActionParsnip: Just what I was looking for, thanks :-)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Hew: np
[10:23] <lorenzosu> Noob: Pleas keep a respectful, civil language.
[10:23] <bob123> lorenzosu: I always rsync my files to a remote machine after a bit of work too
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Hew: only sudo can run anything do do with fdisk
[10:23] <bob123> just to have an offsite backup, etc
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Noob: its a new system so it will appear that way, as you settle into it, its ok
[10:24] <lorenzosu> bob123: Yes so do I. Re security what I mean is don't leave a document on your laptop desktop called "mySecretBankAccountPasswords.txt" :)
[10:24] <vendata> how to find the usb port assigned to the phone in hardy?
[10:24] <bob123> haha
[10:24] <vendata> anybody knows 'bout it
[10:24] <vendata> ?
[10:24] <bob123> good point :)
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Noob: its like buying a mac then ranting when half the linux apps you used to use won't run on it and hitting walls a lot, you just otta work out whats what
[10:25] <bob123> that's why i was wondering about truecrypt or such, or are they a big hassle to work with?
[10:25] <Noob> I was alright when I had it, as soon as I deleted the partion, I get Error 15....
[10:25] <lorenzosu> bob123: Never used truecrypt, but I'm sure other users have.
[10:26] <lorenzosu> bob123: My main concern is always "physical" protection care, as Iwas saying.
[10:26] <bob123> hrm wonder if open office has an encryption system, I use calc a lot
[10:26] <bob123> lorenzosu: yah very true
[10:26] <Noob> If I deleted all files to look for Grub when I deleted the partition, why is it still looking for it?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Noob: yes because the grub config was on the same partition as /
[10:27] <joeyjones_> bob123: truecrypt is decently secure
[10:27] <joeyjones_> and not too dificult to use
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Noob: so you have a boot sector but no booting system for it to launch
[10:27] <joeyjones_> i'd suggest jsut making a synamic container file
[10:27] <bob123> joeyjones, do you have a link to any guides on how to set it up and stuff?
[10:27] <joeyjones_> bob123: it has quite good documentation
[10:27] <bob123> okay will check (notes: dynamic container file)
[10:27] <miha> Noob: if you want to clean grub and use windows loader http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69013
[10:27] <Noob> ActionParsnip: I don't know.
[10:28] <miha> Noob: if that's what you want, read this
[10:28] <joeyjones_> bob123: otherwise you'd have a set space :p
[10:28] <bob123> yah it's just my spreedsheets have everything in em and I don't see any open office method to encrypt hrm
[10:28] <Noob> I don't have the install disk for Vista.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Noob: the disk has a small section of disk called the boot sector, its got just enough space to store where and what the disk is to startup
[10:28] <bob123> joeyjones, ah good to know :)
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Noob: removing linux or windows for that matter does not remove this information
[10:29] <miha> Noob: rescue disk perhaps?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Noob: the info you have removed is the configuration and files that the bootloader expects when it gets launched
[10:29] <miha> all you need is this command fdisk /mbr
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Noob: so you get error 15
[10:29] <joeyjones_> man this was a long update...
[10:29] <joeyjones_> 237 items upgraded
[10:29] <Noob> ActionParsnip: Will SuperGrub fix this?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> miha: not to get windows bootloader back on the disk instead of grub
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Noob: if supergrub can see youor windows partition and reprogram it to boot from the windows partition, then yes
[10:30] <miha> ActionParsnip: well windows by default installs on both MBR and partition, if you have valid windows partition, you just need to overwrite MBR
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Noob: i havent used supergrub before
[10:30] <Noob> I don't care what bootloader I have, as long as I can get back in to Vista like I did BEFORE I got rid of Ubuntu. As long as it works, I don't care.
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> miha: thats where the issue is, its a store bouht system with a garbage recovery cd
[10:30] <miha> oh
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> miha: yeah, you are now up to speed :)
[10:31] <joeyjones_> lol
[10:31] <Noob> My dad's back, so he should be able to burn SuperGrub for me.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Noob: you could always create a small partition for /boot which your system should be ale to use, then boot to windows
[10:31] <miha> ActionParsnip: :)
[10:31] <Noob> If that doesn't work, the computer's going out of the window.
[10:32] <miha> ActionParsnip: what about just command line at grub prompt?
[10:32] <vendata> does anybody knows bout checking the usb port for the phone connected with hardy
[10:32] <vendata> ?????????????????
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Noob: personally I think /boot should be a seperate partition, as well as /home
[10:32] <Noob> Ubuntu won't read the disk to install, just to run off of it.
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> miha: if you can advise Noob, go for it
[10:33] <Moult> what can you recommend for a good calendar application?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Moult: theres a mozilla app
[10:33] <miha> Noob: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !info sunbird
[10:33] <miha> if you get grub prompt, either from hard disk or from ubuntu live cd
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Moult: sunbird dude
[10:34] <miha> take a look at these commands for Windows... you can tell grub to continue with loading another loader.. windows one
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> !info sunbird | Moult
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> 23mb, yikes
[10:34] <miha> Noob: that should get you to windows, then just fdisk /mbr there and you clean grub
[10:35] <warloc_> hey all, Excuse my n00bness, what is the eequivilent of "connect to server"(gnome) in xubuntu
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> warloc_: what sort of server and define "connect"
[10:35] <Moult> ActionParsnip: hmm, checking.
[10:35] <miha> Noob: rootnoverify, chainloader... those things
[10:35] <warloc_> i wonna connect to an ftp server (with login)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !ftp | warloc_
[10:36] <Slart_> warloc_: places, connect to server
[10:36] <warloc_> i'll look again:P
[10:36] <warloc_> thnx anyway
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> warloc_: you can freely install the gnome app you used before
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> warloc_: i'd suggest a client
[10:36] <warloc_> which client
[10:36] <warloc_> ?
[10:37] <phyburn> is 8.10 the best version of ubuntu for netbooks? I seem to have trouble trying to install it on a Acer aspire one.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> warloc_: filezilla is ok
[10:37] <warloc_> ok
[10:37] <phyburn> the netinstall fails to download packages =(
[10:37] <warloc_> ill have a look
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: there is no best, only whats best for you
[10:37] <Slart_> warloc_: ah.. my bad.. I misunderstood.. hang on.. I'll check where xubuntu has that option
[10:37] <warloc_> ofcouse
[10:37] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, im just looking for what version will install fast and easy
[10:38] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, im currently getting a lot of "failed to download blhe errors"
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: xubuntu is smal footprinted
[10:38] <phyburn> but its able to download some packages
[10:38] <Bodsda> Hi, how can i add the   nm-applet     to a new panel? its not in the 'add to panel' list
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: is the web connection ok?
[10:38] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, yeah its fine im just it not. Its able to download some packages but others its not able to
[10:38] <gizmo_> how to detech spy camera using ubuntu?
[10:39] <Slart_> gizmo_: you're going to have to explain a bit more
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: maybe the repo selected is bad, try powering off your router for 30 seconds
[10:39] <gizmo_> Slart_, i want to know how to detech spy camera using ubuntu?
[10:39] <phyburn> ive tried two reps now =(
[10:39] <Slart_> gizmo_: that's repeating, not explaining
[10:39] <phyburn> I cant switch off the router to many people connected to it
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: did you md5check the cd you are installing with as well as verify the disk is correct
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: it may be needed
[10:40] <phyburn> its on a usb stick
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: did you check the iso before you put it on the usb?
[10:40] <phyburn> I could try and re-install the thumb drive
[10:40] <gizmo_> Slart_, if there is a camera in the house..how im going to detech it..means how im going to know if there is spy camera in the house..
[10:40] <phyburn> Im using Unetbootin
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: is whatever bootable media you are using consistant with the original file using MD5 checksumming
[10:41] <Slart_> gizmo_: I would suggest looking for it.. with your eyes..ubuntu won't be able to help you
[10:41] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, I'm sure Unetbootin checked the MD5sum
[10:41] <Bodsda> Hi, how can i add the   nm-applet     to a new panel? its not in the 'add to panel' list
[10:41] <gizmo_> Slart_, it an hidden camera..how to use with eyes..maybe computer would help
[10:42] <Slart_> Bodsda: it's not a panel-applet.. it's a regular application.. you'll have to run it from a terminal
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: then all i can suugest is the router restart
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: how many users will it affect?
[10:42] <Slart_> gizmo_: nope.. you've seen to many bad spy movies
[10:42] <bullgard4> /boot/grub/menu.lst enthält die Zeile: "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-23-generic root=UUID=c6d71d8c-3f39-4bba-92e1-15dedd61a96f ro single." Where is described the parameter 'single'?
[10:42] <Bodsda> Slart_, ok, so how could i make sure it connects to the correct panel?
[10:42] <simono_> phyburn: can't you try another mirror?
[10:43] <bullgard4> /boot/grub/menu.lst includes a line: "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-23-generic root=UUID=c6d71d8c-3f39-4bba-92e1-15dedd61a96f ro single." Where is described the parameter 'single'?
[10:43] <gizmo_> Slart_, can i pm u?
[10:43] <Slart_> Bodsda: it won't end up on the panel, as such.. it will end up in the notification area.. the same place your im icon ends up.. or skype icon etc
[10:44] <Slart_> gizmo_: sure
[10:44] <ActionParsnip>  bullgard4: sounds like its going to be a single user mode
[10:44] <Bodsda> Slart_, and i can add a 'notification area' -- makes sense, thanks a lot Slart_
[10:44] <Slart_> Bodsda: you're welcome
[10:44] <Bodsda> :)
[10:44] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, a lot of gamers living here they would have my head if they got DCed =p
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: or runlevel 1
[10:44] <Gumby> hi all.  after installing intrepid I can no longer boot into windows (quick kernel dump them reboot).  I've considered running the xp recovery however the XP install disk can no longer see any partitions.  Does anyone know if this happens often when using the partitioner in intrepid?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: just do it sneaky and say the connection must have died, home connections have lame SLAs
[10:45] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I could agree with you. And where is this described?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: i used www.ask.com to search, kernel boot options single
[10:46] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, lol ill just throw fedora on it
[10:46] <Slart_> Gumby: nope.. not that I know, at least
[10:46] <phyburn> anything is better than opensuse
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: or try selecting mirrors from a different place
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: suse is ok, it has its uses
[10:47] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, I did already. I only have a few hours till this netbook needs to be installed and dtf
[10:47] <vendata> how to find the usb port assigned to the phone?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> vendata: lsusb
[10:47] <Gumby> Slart: hrm.  thats no good.  I've got some major issues then
[10:47] <sue> So, I mistakely installed ubuntu 64 bit, is there an easy way to revert to 32?
[10:47] <Slart_> sue: nope.. you'll have to reinstall
[10:47] <gaintsura> isn't there a way to do something similar in ubuntu as yum --what-provides ifconfig on apt?
[10:47] <Bodsda> sue, reinstall
[10:48] <vendata> well i've checked the lsusb output
[10:48] <Slart_> gaintsura: try apt-file
[10:48] <vendata> but i couldn't figure out what will be the port is?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: you could try a different lan cable
[10:48] <sue> bodsa, download the cd image all over again?!
[10:48] <Slart_> sue: but 64 bit isn't so bad.. unless you've got some special problem with it
[10:48] <sue> Well, it's for my mom..
[10:48] <gaintsura> Slart_: nothing any other idea?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> sue: yes, or use a minimal cd ~10Mb to install via the web what you need
[10:48] <vendata> like what i've seen is: Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0bb4:0b0c High Tech Computer Corp."
[10:48] <sue> I don't want it to be too hard.
[10:49] <vendata> so what's the port in it?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> vendata: then websearch the id, see what comes up
[10:49] <vendata> ok
[10:49] <Slart_> sue: how long did it take you to notice you were using 64 bit?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> vendata: 004 is my gues
[10:49] <vendata> hmmm
[10:49] <sue> Slart, after I installed, and made a lot of things work :P
[10:50] <Slart_> sue: because I don't think an ordinary user would notice.. everything looks the same..
[10:50] <sue> Yes, but, there are compatibility issues with programs right?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sue: none at all, you can even run 32bit apps under 64bit with ia32libs
[10:51] <Slart_> sue: nothing that I've noticed.. flash might be the only thing but that has been fixed
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> java can be a pain but theres icedtea for that :)
[10:52] <sue> I'm having trouble with skype, that's all at the monet
[10:52] <sue> *moment
[10:52] <miha> ActionParsnip: you mean ubuntu's choice of 'gcj' as primary java... makes problems yes
[10:52] <marko> can someone please give me a hand? ive been trying to install adobe flash for ubuntu 8.10 and downloaded the .deb file but when i try to run it it keeps saying Error: wrong architecture 'i386'
[10:52] <miha> ActionParsnip: i'm java developer and only java is sun's java
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sue: Install ia32libs then forcefully install skpe i386
[10:52] <Slart_> sue: can't really remember how I installed skype.. I might even be using a 32 bit skype client.. not sure..
[10:53] <epicfail101> #aioc
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> miha: i'm a casual system user and server admin, as long as my java stuff turns up i'm smiley
[10:53] <Slart_> sue: as I said.. it looks the same.. I would basically have to run "file" on the executable to find out
[10:53] <miha> ActionParsnip: :)
[10:53] <simono_> marko: download the amd64 version of flash
[10:53] <joeyjones_> any ideas how to map extra keys?
[10:54] <joeyjones_> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:54] <marko> thanks simono
[10:54] <joeyjones_> oops
[10:54] <joeyjones_> my laptop kb ahs a euro and dollar key
[10:54] <oCean_> marko: use apt-get to install the package
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | joeyjones
[10:54] <marko> oCean_ how do i do that? sorry, im a total newbie
[10:54]  * ActionParsnip thinks fluxbox shortcut keys are waaay more configurable
[10:54] <marko> can u tell me the exact command to type into terminal?
[10:54] <sue> actionparsnip, how do I install ia32 libs?
[10:55] <joeyjones_> ActionParsnip: i'm looking to map keys to symbols, not actions.
[10:55] <simono_> marko: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:55] <oCean_> marko: ok. You should read up on how to install/remove (software)packages.  That's the installer. marko use "flashplugin-nonfree" , that'll install the adobe thing
[10:57] <oCean_> marko: see next link for adding/removing software: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/add-applications/C/index.html
[10:57] <marko> thanks oCean and simono_ much appreciated
[10:57] <quibbler> joeyjones: right click on the panel add Character Palette
[10:57] <marko> cheers mate
[10:58] <sue> Ok, also I want all the Flash and Java stuff to work, so my mom won't have any trouble browsing the internet, how would I get all that installed quickly
[10:58] <sue> ?
[10:58] <michelle_> i have a problem with thunderbird crashing if it comes accross any tahoma fonts in emails - have followed & installed Tahoma and tahomebd re howto's etc and they work in ooffice, but thunderbird still crashes :/     anyone know if theres a way around???
[10:58] <simono_> sue: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:58] <tv7497> i have messed up with my fonts could somebody help me with default font in their appearance preferences could you name what was the default font for documents
[10:58] <simono_> sue: or just visit a flash site and use the plugin finder
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> simono_: if you get no flas after installing flashplugin-nonfree, try downloading the linux tar.gz from adobes site and unzipping it to ~/.mozilla/plugins (you will need to make the folder)
[10:58] <Slart_> michelle_: do you get some kind of error message if you start thunderbird in a terminal?
[10:58] <sue> simono, thatnks
[10:58] <drdozer> can I have an invite to #ubuntu-2? I'm having fun with Jaunty
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> simono_: then kill all firefoxes
[10:59] <faderhval> hi people, was wondering i've mounted my ntfs partitions and the icons appear on my desktop how ever i am unable to rename them the option is faded anyway to do this in terminal??
[10:59] <Slart_> drdozer: I think #ubuntu-2 is forwarded to this channel
[10:59] <sue> Actionparsnip, after installing ai3libs, it still won't install Skype i386.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: did you mount it with ntfs3g and did you mount it so users can write to the partition?
[10:59] <drdozer> Slart_ ok
[11:00] <michelle_> yep, get "(gecko:8017): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'Tahoma Bold 9.75'
[11:00] <michelle_> " Slart_
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> sue: you need to use a big stick
[11:00] <Slart_> drdozer: do you get some kind of error message when you try joining it?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> sue: sudo dpkg --force-all -i <skype deb file>
[11:00] <simono_> sue: Flashplayer for 64Bit ist here http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html and then do what ActionParsnip told (move libflashplayer.so to /.mozilla/plugins)
[11:00] <drdozer> Slart_ yes - it tells me I have to be invited to join :D
[11:00] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: no i intentionally did not use the user option in fstab
[11:00] <michelle_> Slart_ you get that^^^
[11:00] <faderhval> and yes i used ntfs-3g
[11:00] <Slart_> michelle_: yup
[11:00] <joeyjones_> any ideas how to map extra keys?
[11:01] <joeyjones_> my laptop kb ahs a euro and dollar key
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: then to rename is to write, so you will need 'sudo mv' to rename
[11:01] <marko> i just wanna ask. i have a 64-bit intel core 2 duo processor so i installed the 64 bit version of ubuntu...but it seems to be for amd64...did i install the wrong version for my computer?
[11:01] <Slart_> !irc
[11:01] <Slart_> drdozer: you didn't mean #ubuntu+1?
[11:01] <miha> joeyjones_: i cant find an ubuntu specific instructions, but take a look at http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys_in_Xorg
[11:02] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: hmm.. i used the rw option as far i understood the user/nouser is only to ensure that only root kan mount/umount?
[11:02] <michelle_> Slart_ i googled it, but just seem to find "install tahoma" etc...
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> marko: its fine, its for a 64bit cpu so its correct, its just a name. youo arent the first to ask
[11:02] <simono_> marko: no you have the right one. amd64 is misleading name
[11:02]  * michelle_ is frustrated
[11:02] <marko> oh ok, thanks guys
[11:02] <TuxSympathiser> Am I right in saying an xorg panic would not be a fault with a kernel module but rather an application and/or process higher up?
[11:02] <simono_> marko: x86-64 is a better name
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: only root can mount, if you dont have correct acces for standard users they will not be able to write data and sudo will be needed, also the written files will be owned by root
[11:03] <drdozer> whatever - I was wondering how I could get the color scheme altered so that I can actually read notification texts
[11:03] <faderhval> so i have misunderstood the meaning of user/nouser and the easy way is to correct fstab :)
[11:04] <drdozer> under kde on Jaunty, it seems to be using some sort of embossed charcole on black
[11:04] <miha> drdozer: System/Preferences/Theme
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: yeah i would, theres a billion guides on it
[11:04] <miha> drdozer: oh kde, sorry, that's for gnome
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: try: mount usb user writable
[11:04] <faderhval> was following this http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[11:04] <Slart_> michelle_: seems there are other people having the same problems but with other fonts
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: http://www.hafenscher.net/wiki/index.php?page=Mount_USB_stick_read_and_writable_for_users
[11:05] <Slart_> michelle_: you can uncheck the "allow messages to use other fonts" to avoid it... but the bug will still be there
[11:05] <faderhval> not an USB stick im mounting ;)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: haha the amount of folks that say that
[11:06] <faderhval> explain? :P
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: a partition is a prtiion, be it usb, firewire or internal
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: you are mounting the partition, only the kernel needs to know how it is pysically connected, mount doesnt care, neither do you
[11:07] <faderhval> i am aware but as a fairly new linux user you would never know if theres a special option for it :)
[11:07] <sue> actionparsnip ok, got it installed, but it still needs libqt4-core and gui, how should I go about that? (sorry for all these newbie questions)
[11:08] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: Anyways thank you  for the explanation :)
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> sue: np, just apt-get install them
[11:08] <michelle_> Slart -well, not a fix - but your a diamond :) --- unchecking worked. Top searching techniques ;) --- thanks
[11:08] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, wtf I'm a noob I can just use the normal install ISO i dont need to use the netinstall I thought the normal iso was bigger than a gig! ^^
[11:08] <sue> apt-get, right, thanks
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: np man, i see why folks ask so i explain, the kernel is doing a LOT of work to make it abstracted like that
[11:08] <Slart_> michelle_: you're welcome
[11:08] <michelle_> :D
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: no the cd iso is ~700Mb
[11:09] <phyburn> dont care! its under a gig =p
[11:09] <phyburn> my little flash is only 900mb
[11:09] <milligan_> Setting up ekiga (2.0.12-0ubuntu5) usr/share/gconf/schemas/ekiga.schemas:20362: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: long line 20362 <-- Eeep. Getting this error no matter what I do, be it apt-get remove --purge ekiga or whatever. How can I fix? Problem started after updating from 8.04 to 8.10 Desktop.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: haha nice
[11:10] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: i changed the user option but im still unable to rename them?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: check the link, the UID 1000 is what you will need to add to give all users accee
[11:12] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: so i add the -o uid=1000 after the mount point option?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: you dont put -o  its assumed as its the last part of the line
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: -o is what you use in a command line mount, not fstab
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: if you read your other fstab entrys, none of them have -o
[11:14] <amalji> \join bash
[11:15] <nanang> exit
[11:15] <imaginativeone> how do I burn from a bin/cue file?
[11:15] <mohshami> hi guys, I'm trying to capture some output from an interactive python shell, I thought tee would do it like in mysql client, but it didn't work, anybody knows how to do this? I've been googling all morning and can't seem to find it
[11:15] <miha> milligan_: might be a bug, like this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/237903
[11:15] <Winball> Anyone tried running RA3 on Ubuntu ? Im strugling to mount the ra3.iso
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> imaginativeone: you can use bchunk to convert to iso
[11:16] <imaginativeone> can I use PowerISO?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> imaginativeone: no need, linux has mount which is more powerful
[11:16] <milligan_> miha, yep.. saw that site .. doesn't provide a fix though :-\
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> imaginativeone: if you bchunk to make an iso you can burn it or mount it useing the loop device
[11:16] <miha> milligan_: you have choice to reopen it and paste your own problem:)
[11:17] <miha> milligan_: somebody must do it
[11:17] <imaginativeone> do I need to apt-get install bchunk?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Winball: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mount/point
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> imaginativeone: yes
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !info bchunk
[11:17] <Winball> sudo mount rld-ra3.iso /home/winball/RA3/ -t iso9660 -o loop, only asks me to check dmesg | tail
[11:18] <tv7497> guys dont we have a cario dock for x64 arch
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Winball: does the RA3 folder exist?
[11:18] <Winball> ActionParsnip: Yes. I have also tried using GUI, like gnome-mount and gISOmount
[11:18] <Winball> ActionParsnip: There is no size-restriction to mount an .iso is there ?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: are you on intrepid?
[11:19] <oCean_> milligan_: have you tried opening up the file (in editor) and checking if there is a typo?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Winball: none at all, you can mount a 100Tb iso if you wanted
[11:19] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: yes sir x64 intrepid
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/graphics/cairo-dock
[11:19] <milligan_> oCean_, to be honest, it looks completly messed up.
[11:20] <milligan_> oCean_, to an extent that the people maintaining it must have had some kind of braindamage to include it in a release.
[11:20] <Spark_rd2> hi there
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Winball: try making it a simpler mount: sudo mount -o loop ./rld-ra3.iso ~/RA3
[11:21] <milligan_> miha, are you running on 8.10 ?
[11:21] <miha> milligan_: yes
[11:21] <oCean_> milligan_: ghehe.. ok. However the error seems to be that there is a line with an opening tag, but not a corresponding closing tag. Can you see if that is really the case?
[11:21] <milligan_> miha, could you maybe e-mail me your file, so I could test and see if I can fix it ?
[11:21] <miha> sure
[11:21] <Winball> ActionParsnip: <3
[11:22] <miha> moment
[11:22] <milligan_> miha<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:22] <milligan_> oCean_, I'll look into it.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Winball: KISS
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Winball: keep it simple stupid :D
[11:22] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: http://paradoxxx.zero.free.fr/cairo-dock-deb-64bit/ sir can i tr this sir ?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: you dont need to refer to me as sir
[11:22] <Nikon> how to configure secundary dvd drive on ubuntu ?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: just download whichever debs you need and use sudo dpkg -i to install them all
[11:23] <oCean_> milligan_: I did not upgrade, but fresh 8.10 install. Here line 20362 is "<long>Posisi jendela utama pada layar</long>
[11:23] <Winball> ActionParsnip: It's probably because it wasn't ISO-9660.
[11:23] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Winball: it gets detected via the file command which will say what its using
[11:24] <milligan_> oCean_, yeah. that line makes no sense.
[11:24] <milligan_> oCean_, yours seems sane .. mine is completely messed up.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Winball: detected settings in mounts are usually ok
[11:24] <milligan_> oCean_, <locale name="id"><short>Posisi jendela utama pada layar</short><long>Posisi jendela utama pada layar</cale> <- See what I mean? How the hell did that make it to a release?
[11:25] <oCean_> milligan_: ghehe.. that's not sane.. that's insane
[11:25] <milligan_> oCean_, my point exactly :)
[11:25] <oCean_> milligan_: that may be not the only messed-up line. I understand you get a sane file mailed?
[11:26] <miha> milligan_: http://www.wolfey.si/tmp/ekiga.schemas
[11:26] <miha> that's mine and ekiga works, although i dont use it
[11:26] <milligan_> miha, cheers
[11:26] <miha> just no error at whizzard
[11:26] <oCean_> milligan_: miha ah, ok. See if that works
[11:27] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: apparently i can read/write to the file but im still unable to rename the icons on the desktop
[11:27] <miha> milligan_: now refresh, just completed ftping, my line is slow
[11:27] <miha> :(
[11:27] <milligan_> Ah, hehe.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: maybe they have special permissions set in AD
[11:27] <milligan_> miha, looks like it might be working. I got a lot less errors now.
[11:27] <miha> hehe
[11:28] <milligan_> (When using an uncomplete file)
[11:28] <miha> hehe
[11:28] <oCean_> less is good :)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: ntfs-3g is a best effort as ntfs is proprietary so files with weird permissions et on them will not be edittable but will be readable
[11:28] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: how do i run it ? cario -dock ?
[11:28] <Nom-> bleh i'm the only person i know who can consistently crash bash using perl one-liners
[11:28] <milligan_> Yep, worked :D
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: type cai then press tab
[11:28] <miha> milligan_: i suspect this apt-get --purge just doesnt clean everything
[11:28] <alex_sleiborg> Hi. How do i downgrade my libtool?
[11:28] <miha> milligan_: but i'm  not expert on this
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> alex_sleiborg: you could uninstall one then install the older one
[11:29] <milligan_> miha, it was generating the error no matter what I did ..
[11:29] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: i am able to write to the drives as well only problem is the icon names wierdly enough
[11:29] <milligan_> apt was broken pretty much.
[11:29] <miha> milligan_: i had problems with samba reinstall, then someone reminded me to --purge samba-common too
[11:29] <miha> not just samba
[11:29] <Spark_rd2> please guys i'm a new in linux and I heard somebody talking about cairo
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: oh yes you can do that but some files you wont be able to edit due to ntfs permissions
[11:29] <Spark_rd2> what is it ?
[11:30] <foolish_> hey
[11:30] <oCean_> Spark_rd2: have you tried google?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: if the file names are weird, you can add more mount info to use special languages for the file names to display special characters better
[11:30] <foolish_> need some help over here
[11:30] <milligan_> Anyway, looks to be working fine now. miha, maybe you could post a fix on the forumlink you gave me? (I don't have an account there)
[11:30] <miha> milligan_: it's not fix, it's directly from repository, proposed perhaps, though
[11:31] <faderhval> ActionParsnip:  they are not wierd just annoying one is "Local Disc" the other is "Local disk" :)
[11:31] <remoteCTR1> err... what do i do with a process that i can't even kill -9 ???
[11:31] <Spark_rd2> yes but find only some page explaining how to set it up
[11:31] <miha> milligan_: i just enabled 'proposed' for my webcam stuff then i found out it's differnet issue
[11:31] <oCean_> Spark_rd2: http://cairographics.org/
[11:32] <Spark_rd2> ok
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: then id boot to the OS on the ntfs (if there is one, and rename them)
[11:36] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: how do i keep on running it if i close the terminal t goes off :(
[11:36] <miha> milligan_: did you try amsn lately.. it does audio chat too now :)
[11:36] <miha> milligan_: the svn version
[11:36] <milligan_> oh, cool. This is my work machine, so I didn't really mess about with it .. but I suppose I could give it a whack :)
[11:37] <miha> milligan_: http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Farsight
[11:37] <miha> some extra libs and audio works
[11:37] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: if exists, killing it's parent might help
[11:37] <milligan_> looks like a bit of work :)
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: add it to your startup and it will run at boot
[11:38] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: how do i determine a parent?
[11:38] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: oh thanks
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: easiest way
[11:38] <ott0> the brightness controls on my laptop no longer work. it's probably because of something that was upgraded right?
[11:38] <Spark_rd2> thx Ocean
[11:38] <Spark_rd2> ;)
[11:38] <miha> milligan_: not too much, i wrote my slovenian instructions with just necessary stuff http://sponka.net/AMSN_slika_in_zvok#Razvojna_razli.C4.8Dica_aMSN_in_knji.C5.BEnice i guess you could ignore comments and just try those commands
[11:38] <ott0> screen brightness used to work fine
[11:39] <miha> milligan_: amsn wiki has more detailed explanation
[11:39] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: while doing "ps -ef | grep commandname" the 2nd field is pid, the 3rd field is parent pid. But beware, parent process might have started other processes...
[11:39] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: well those should be terinated if i terminate the parent, right?
[11:39] <Spark_rd2> Ocean: I find a good tuto that's explain how to set it up on my distro
[11:40] <rikil> hello
[11:40] <rikil> is there  any one to help me?
[11:40] <Spark_rd2> hello rikil
[11:40] <miha> rikil: ask your question, try to be clear. if you get no answer in few minutes, try posting it again
[11:40] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: indeed. That would kill all childprocesses
[11:40] <rikil> ya
[11:40] <rikil> i am havinfg pc with amd sempron 1100
[11:40] <rikil> with 1 gb ram ddr2
[11:41] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: well lets see then if the parren process happens to gdm or so:D
[11:41] <rikil> 160 gb hd
[11:41] <rikil> and with nvidia gfx card
[11:41] <rikil> now prob is that
[11:41] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: yes, yes... take caution while killing :-)
[11:41] <rikil> i installed nvidia drivers
[11:41] <rikil> in ubuntu
[11:41] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: well it didnt do anything at all:-/
[11:42] <remoteCTR1> guess i need to reboot this thing
[11:42] <oCean_> rikil: please try to explain your problem all in one line.
[11:42] <rikil> nya
[11:42] <rikil> sure
[11:42] <rikil> So get it till now
[11:42] <rikil> ?
[11:42] <remoteCTR1> yeah sure
[11:42] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: yes, that's the final option indeed.
[11:42] <rikil> now  icant chage my screen resolution lessthan 640 and I cant mount my hard drive
[11:43] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: ive been working with linux for years now but i never had that one:D
[11:43] <rikil> but i got
[11:43] <rikil> now what to do??
[11:43] <remoteCTR1> rikil: why would you wanna change to a resolution less than 640*480?
[11:43] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: well, you might wait and sit it out... while waiting, renice the process so it's not causing problems for other processes
[11:43] <oCean_> !enter | rikil
[11:44] <rikil> sorry it is not going more than it
[11:44] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: renice?
[11:44] <Baba_B00ie> and why would ya want 640x480 ?
[11:44] <rikil> it is not going more than 640*480
[11:44] <remoteCTR1> rikil: so mean higher not lower than 640*480?
[11:44] <remoteCTR1> kk
[11:44] <rikil> ya
[11:44] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: yes, nice is a way to start process in lower or higher priority. Renice is a way to ehrm.. renice a running process
[11:44] <SxNDave> rikil. I had the same yesterday. I had to set it by running Nvidia x server settings as admin then restarting X
[11:45] <remoteCTR1> rikil: theres a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf there you do the settings for graphics resolution, see man xorg.conf for details
[11:45] <rikil> can u expalin it bit in detail as i am new at ubuntu
[11:45] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: humm i guess i will do the reboot later on
[11:46] <remoteCTR1> rikil: xorg.conf is a configuration file as the file ending suggests
[11:46] <Manix> I got a bit of a problem here if someone can help
[11:46] <rikil> ok and what about that i cant mount my drives
[11:46] <Manix> I have 3 HDs setup in RAID5 with Vista installed on them
[11:46] <remoteCTR1> rikil: errr wait a sec
[11:46] <rikil> sure
[11:46] <remoteCTR1> rikil: did you say you have an nvidia card?
[11:46] <rikil> ya
[11:47] <Manix> so I decided I wanted to try and install ubuntu as well
[11:47] <remoteCTR1> rikil: gosh sorry i mislead you, you need to install a program called nvidia-settings, to do so type sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings to a console
[11:47] <Manix> so I Shrunk a portion of the HD and tried to install ubtunu on it now I get the message GRUB Error 21 when booting
[11:48] <rikil> no prob
[11:48] <miha> Manix: googling error shows http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62717
[11:50] <remoteCTR1> rikil: got it installed?
[11:50] <rikil> sorry but at present i am using XP
[11:50] <rikil> i will have to reboot
[11:50] <bigbrova2> .
[11:51] <Manix> I've looked around on the search results already... none of them have 3 Hds setup in Raid5 which is kind of an issue no?
[11:55] <oCean_> Manix: it's probably because in the grub config the disk (or partition) -to-boot-from is not spcecified correctly. You'll have to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:56] <Manix> Does that link show me how to edit it?
[11:57] <SlimeyPete> Manix: "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" or "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[11:57] <carpii_> i want to move /var/log on to a new drive. Whats involved in doing this?  Im thinking of copying the directory, then editing fstab, then issuing a mount -a
[11:57] <oCean_> Manix: yes. it's a good place to start. There are several links pointing to solutions/howto's for various grub related problems
[11:57] <Manix> The only way for me to boot right now is using the ubuntu CD
[11:57] <sriramoman> hello guys, how do i install xp in my machine with ubuntu already installed, i mean is there anyway to install grub after xp is installed with the live cd?
[11:59] <davidv> Hello.  Had a bit of a look around but couldn't find specific info: Is it possible to mirror 8.04.1 instead of 8.04.2?
[11:59] <oCean_> carpii_: while running os, various files in /var/log are in use. You should reboot to let the change have full effect.
[12:00] <davidv> Not CD images, but archive (sans -updates and -security).  Or, is 8.04.1 only a CD-image concept?
[12:01] <carpii_> oCean, ok thanks. Its not a problem to move the files while theyre in use though?
[12:01] <carpii_> so long as i reboot afterwards
[12:01] <oCean_> carpii_: moving to another filesystem would be a problem
[12:01] <break19> Hey.. where does ubuntu keep it's "non partition" mount info? there's no /proc entry in fstab - but it's obviously mounted.. :p
[12:02] <carpii_> hm, ive added a new drive for performance reasons. I dont mind if this results in some log files not being complete
[12:02] <carpii_> break, try /etc/mtab ?
[12:02] <break19> carpii_: mtab only shows whats already mounted.
[12:02] <break19> I want to know how ubuntu knows what to mount and where, at boot..
[12:02] <carpii_> you said its already mounted
[12:02] <carpii_> oic
[12:02] <break19> carpii_: well. duh.. yea.. it is.. unless I boot my own kernel.
[12:03] <erUSUL> !fstab | break19
[12:03] <carpii_> its normal for proc to be in fstab i think
[12:03] <carpii_> i dont know where else it would be
[12:03] <break19> its not in there tho.
[12:03] <Techna> Does anyone know why one of my application windows is grey and not responding to my input, and more importantly, how can I fix that?
[12:03] <oCean_> break, there is a proc entry in my fstab
[12:03] <break19> thats what I'm getting at.
[12:04] <break19> oCean_: lucky you.. there's not one in mine.. and thats how it was installed.
[12:04] <shauno> break19: proc should be in fstab - it is on all mine.  but check /etc/init.d/mount*, some of the special fs are handled by bootscripts now
[12:04] <erUSUL> Techna: it has crashed or is locked... kill the app or use xkill
[12:04] <Techna> :(
[12:04] <oCean_> break19: the line does not start ^/proc but ^proc
[12:04] <Techna> that's what I thought
[12:04] <break19> shauno: see, the problem is.. pata_via module is bad bad bad.. and I wanna go back to the via_82xx module..
[12:05] <binarymutant> will intrepid's dpkg version be updated? or will the current version just get security updates?
[12:05] <break19> and when I do, my system's drive names change.. and root gets mounted, but not any of the special filesystems
[12:05] <Techna> To whom do I direct suggestions for improving this channel?
[12:05] <carpii_> break, if proc isnt in your fstab. nothings telling it to mount it
[12:05] <break19> carpii_: then how is it mounted :)
[12:05] <erUSUL> Techna: maybe you can start with some of the ops or the launchpad page
[12:06] <break19> carpii_: which was my question.
[12:06] <erUSUL> Techna: #ubuntu-ops
[12:06] <Techna> thank you
[12:06] <oCean_> !patience | Techna
[12:06] <oCean_> Techna: try #ubuntu-ops if you have such suggestions
[12:07] <Techna> oCean_: don't make assumptions.
[12:07] <carpii_> break, i dont know. shauno might be on to something. check /etc/init.d/mount*
[12:07] <Manix> I can't figure out how I get to a point where I can edit the menu.lst file
[12:07] <shauno> my system has something in /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh:       # Mount proc filesystem on /proc (and following lines)
[12:08] <binarymutant> Manix, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:08] <erUSUL> Manix: from a livecd you can mount the ubuntu partition and edit the file (if you can not boot into the system)
[12:08] <break19> shauno: ok.. why does ubuntu have to do it that way... meh
[12:09] <shauno> no idea man. but in grep I trust :)
[12:09] <erUSUL> binarymutant: the later
[12:10] <binarymutant> erUSUL, thanks for that info :)
[12:10] <erUSUL> binarymutant: no problem
[12:10] <usuario> http:/ubuntu.com
[12:10] <phyburn> how would I disable my swap space?
[12:10] <davidv> erUSUL/Manix: and that's why physical security of servers with a cd-rom drive is important :P
[12:11] <phyburn> it seems to already be commented out in /dev/fstab 0_o
[12:11] <break19> shauno: heh - I guess they want to support old kernels.. but geez.. I dun -want- debugging in my kernel.. and I dun want to use the experimental pata_via driver.... and the standard kernel has them in.
[12:11] <^rumput_kering^> can I give commands to my ubuntu using voice?
[12:11] <break19> phyburn: sudo swapoff -a
[12:12] <phyburn> will that turn it off perminatly?
[12:12] <break19> phyburn: why would you want to do that?
[12:13] <phyburn> cause swap sounds funny and I dont want it
[12:13] <sue> I'm having trouble with my sound card
[12:13] <phyburn> no lol I have a netbook dont want to waste my SSD
[12:13] <sue> Where can I find drivers?
[12:13] <oCean_> !sound | sue
[12:14] <shal3r> How to install KDE4.2 on Ubuntu 8.10? I added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" and installed kde-desktop, but i don`t have kde4 in session tytpe menu.
[12:15] <break19> phyburn: add "NOSWAP" to your boot options
[12:17] <erUSUL> Manix: http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry708.html
[12:23] <darth_muzo> Repost: Is it possible to mirror 8.04.1 archive instead of 8.04.2?
[12:24] <_ruben> there are no different mirrors
[12:25] <_ruben> an 8.04.1 mirror would a not-up-to-date mirror
[12:25] <darth_muzo> Thanks _ruben, so if I missed out on mirroring the archive back when 8.04.1 was the only stable LTS, then I can't reproduce it, and I'm forced to move to 8.04.2?
[12:25] <filthpig> Hi all. I installed ubuntu on a Compaq laptop for a friend of mine, but I kept the WinXP recovery partition just in case his daughter (msn-aholic) wanted windows back so she could use the WLM-client.. Now, that has proven true, she does want windows. Grub detected the boot partition and set everything up, and I had testbooted it once before to see that it works, and it did then. However, when I try to boot it now, I get "Error 13: Invalid or u
[12:25] <darth_muzo> Use case: work environment that doesn't want to move off the almost-8.04.1 mirror I created for them a while ago.
[12:26] <namasamaran> yudhi
[12:27] <_ruben> darth_muzo: there's no such thing as a 8.04.1 or 8.04.2 mirror really .. just 8.04 mirror .. which either has all updates (which would make it more or less 8.04.2), or not .. 8.04.1 and 8.04.2 are merely indications of "up-to-date-ness" ;)
[12:27] <bjantscher> hi folks! i need to create a user account (ubuntu server 8.10) that automatically shuts down the system as soon as that very user logs in... i tried to specify /sbin/shutdown (and poweroff and reboot and so on) as the users shell, but it always requires the root user to do that... is there a way to avoid that, so that also an ordinary user may shutdown the system? (don't worry, this is just for a vmware image which starts a
[12:27] <bjantscher> server in the background... the "easy" shutdown is just supposed to be a convenience tool for users to turn of the vmware and the server)
[12:28] <gordonjcp> bjantscher: sudo
[12:29] <bjantscher> gordonjcp: you mean specifying a script as default shell, that invokes "sudo poweroff"?
[12:29] <gordonjcp> bjantscher: yup
[12:30] <gordonjcp> bjantscher: you'll need to add that user to sudoers in a fairly specific way
[12:30] <bjantscher> gordonjcp: the thing is, i don't want this user to login, i just want them to be able to shutdown the machine. what if they hit ctrl-c or whatever... would they end up in the bash, or would they just get back to the login screen again?
[12:31] <darth_muzo> _ruben: OK, so I've been doing some spot inspections of Packages.gz contents, trying to figure out whether if I mirror only "hardy" archive rather than including "hardy-updates" and "hardy-security" archive also, whether I'll just be getting 8.04.0, or 8.04.2.  I remember reading somewhere that 8.04.2 has gcc-4.2.4 instead of -4.2.3, but that's not what I'm seeing in the Pacakges.gz.
[12:32] <gordonjcp> bjantscher: change their shell to /bin/shutdown ?
[12:32] <bastones> Hi. I have an ADVENT 5611 keyboard and sometimes when I type some of the keys dont register, like if I want to type hello it may come back with 'hllo' in any program be it FireFox or Pidgin...I'm running out of options but I really want to keep Ubuntu. It may be a driver issue but I cant find drivers for my ADVENT laptop...
[12:33] <bjantscher> gordonjcp: this is what i tried, but that did not work out as you still need to be root for doing this
[12:33] <DivineOmega> bastones: Sounds like yoyur keys are sticking to be honest, unless it only happens in Ubuntu.
[12:33] <Sivam> hi
[12:33] <bastones> DivineOmega: yep only happens in Ubuntu...no such problem in Windows
[12:34] <Sivam> I am getting following error
[12:34] <DivineOmega> bastones: I've never heard of that problem before
[12:34] <Sivam> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libstdc++6-4.3-dev:
[12:34] <Sivam>  libstdc++6-4.3-dev depends on g++-4.3 (= 4.3.2-1ubuntu11); however:
[12:34] <Sivam>   Package g++-4.3 is not configured yet
[12:34] <FloodBot1> Sivam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <NicEXE> I need some help with that http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Boot_it (on the point that says: creating compatible filesystems)
[12:35] <bastones> DivineOmega: maybe theres a compatibility issue in 8.10 that hasnt been recognised or fixed ... its annoying me and I'm considering going back to Windows which I really dont want to do
[12:35] <Sivam> I am facing dpkg error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112740/
[12:35] <Sivam> any suggestion
[12:36] <DivineOmega> bastones: Have you filed a bug on Launchpad?
[12:36] <bastones> well I cant exactly do that if the keys work one time but not another ...
[12:36] <DivineOmega> Sivam: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:37] <Sivam> DivineOmega: apt-get is disabled
[12:37] <DivineOmega> bastones: You can file it on another system surely?
[12:37] <Sivam> DivineOmega: for me as I can only use dpkg as the machine is not connected to internet
[12:37] <Turkish_b> Isn't there türk
[12:37] <DivineOmega> Sivam: I see.
[12:37] <darth_muzo> Sivam: have you considered using dselect?
[12:38] <Sivam> darth_muzo: how to use it
[12:38] <Sivam> darth_muzo : /tmp# dselect
[12:38] <Sivam> The program 'dselect' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:38] <DivineOmega> Sivam:  Try: dkpg-reconfigure packname
[12:39] <Sivam> -su: dkpg-reconfigure: command not found
[12:40] <darth_muzo> Sivam: sounds like a fairly barebones install - how was it installed?
[12:40] <munito> saludos
[12:40] <munito> alguien peude echarme una mano con VirtualBox?
[12:40] <Sivam> seems like some path problem
[12:40] <Sivam> for dkpg
[12:40] <DivineOmega> Sivam: I mispelt it. dpkg reconfigure is correct.
[12:41] <EagleScreen> i would like to view the dependences of a package currently in jaunty, how must I proceed?
[12:41] <ryugi> hi all
[12:41] <_ruben> EagleScreen: http://packages.ubuntu.com would be decent start
[12:42] <ryugi> is 2GB of ram enough for a development machine ?
[12:42] <shal3r> ryugi, yes
[12:42] <EagleScreen> _ruben how do you see the dependences of gtk-qt-engine in http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ??
[12:42] <munito> alguien abla español?
[12:42] <EagleScreen> !spanish | munito
[12:42] <munito> thx
[12:43] <ryugi> ok
[12:43] <Sivam> $ /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libstdc++.so.6 is not installed
[12:44] <Sivam> DivineOmega:  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libstdc++.so.6 is not installed
[12:44] <darth_muzo> Sivam: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure g++-4.3
[12:45] <DivineOmega> Sivam: Try it on the package it said was not configured.
[12:45] <Sivam> darth_muzo: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: g++-4.3 is broken or not fully installed
[12:45] <Chousuke> you need to install the libstdc++ package
[12:45] <sue> I'm having trouble with my sound card, here are my specs http://pastebin.com/m18485dae
[12:45] <miha> i think so to, Chousuke
[12:45] <DivineOmega> Sivam: You need to reeacquire that package.
[12:45] <Sivam> DivineOmega: i have .deb file
[12:45] <Chousuke> use apt!
[12:45] <Chousuke> do not install debs manually
[12:45] <DivineOmega> Sivam: Install that deb.
[12:45] <Sivam> DivineOmega: what I have to do now with that deb
[12:46] <DivineOmega> Chousuke: He has not network access on the machine in question.
[12:46] <Chousuke> use a CD then
[12:46] <_ruben> EagleScreen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/gtk-qt-engine .. apparently there are no dependencies defined
[12:46] <Sivam> DivineOmega: g++-4.3 depends on libstdc++6-4.3-dev (= 4.3.2-1ubuntu11); however:
[12:46] <Sivam> was the output
[12:46] <Chousuke> Sivam: you need to install the libstdc++6-4.3-dev package
[12:46] <NET||abuse> Hi guys.. this is a silly question,, but how do i change my server hosts domain.. at the moment we are officeserverdc.domain.com  where it should be domain.lan for our local domain. how do i get the server switched over, it's a pretty bare setup, I've not started looking at the directory service yet or anything
[12:47] <Chousuke> Sivam: you should get a CD and use APT to install the packages from the CD.
[12:47] <Sivam> Chousuke:  libstdc++6-4.3-dev depends on g++-4.3
[12:47] <Chousuke> Sivam: you need to install them both at the same time.
[12:48] <darth_muzo> Chousuke: Sivam is using dpkg only, since not connected.  As an alternative to that or install from CD, I'm trying to find the doco on using dselect for upgrade/install
[12:48] <Sivam> Chousuke: how
[12:48] <Sivam> Chousuke: how to install both at same time
[12:48] <sue> I'm having trouble with my sound card, here are my specs (sorry to repeat)    http://pastebin.com/m18485dae
[12:48] <Chousuke> darth_muzo: why dselect? it's just an obsolete alternative to APT
[12:48] <Chousuke> Sivam: dpkg -i gcc.deb libstdc++...deb
[12:49] <Chousuke> Sivam: whatever the filenames are.
[12:49] <NET||abuse> anyone? How do I change my servers domain?
[12:49] <Chousuke> do you need GCC to set up your internet? :/
[12:49] <Sivam> Chousuke: it installs now
[12:49] <Chousuke> because it looks like that should be your priority.
[12:50] <miha> :)
[12:50] <Sivam> Chousuke: but I am unable to find libstdc++.so.6 file
[12:50] <Sivam> Chousuke: in my /usr/lib folder
[12:50] <Chousuke> you also need the libstdc++6 package.
[12:50] <Chousuke> not the -dev, the actual library
[12:51] <miha> Chousuke: if not for my usage of Gentoo, i wouldnt know about libstdc++ :)
[12:51] <miha> Chousuke: gcc upgrade guide for gentoo was very informative:)
[12:51] <Chousuke> I dislike gentoo.
[12:52] <miha> Chousuke: i'm not saying end users should take gentoo. but for novice developer, gentoo forces you to learn some stuff
[12:52] <Sivam> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     18 2009-02-02 12:32 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[12:52] <Sivam> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-05-07 06:12 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[12:52] <Sivam> there is no libstdc++.so.6
[12:52] <Chousuke> miha: I don't think that matters at all.
[12:52] <Bodsda> !ot | miha : This is not the gentoo channel
[12:53] <Chousuke> Sivam: you need libstdc++6
[12:53] <miha> sorry ok.
[12:53] <Bodsda> thanks :)
[12:53] <darth_muzo> Sivam: Do you know if you downloaded the libstdc++6 package?
[12:53] <Sivam> Chousuke: i installed libstdc++6-dev package
[12:53] <Chousuke> Sivam: there are two versions in the repos.
[12:53] <Chousuke> Sivam: you need the non-dev package as wel
[12:53] <Chousuke> +l
[12:53] <Sivam> Chousuke: libstdc++6-4.3-dev_4.3.2-1ubuntu11_amd64.deb
[12:53] <Chousuke> that's not enough.
[12:53] <Sivam> Chousuke: oh
[12:53] <Chousuke> that's just the headers, not the library itself.
[12:54] <Sivam> Chousuke: thanks
[12:54] <darth_muzo> Sivam: This probably won't help you out of your current spot, but if you can run Synaptic, this may be of use (old link for old distro, but I had a quick look in Synaptic and it still seems relevant): http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/11/03/simple-way-to-update-ubuntu-edgy-with-slowno-internet-connection/
[12:55] <sue> I'm having trouble with my sound card, here are my specs:            http://pastebin.com/m18485dae
[12:55] <ryugi> is there any other drawback in doing linux development in a virtual machine ?
[12:55] <Chousuke> ryugi: "other"?
[12:55] <Chousuke> ryugi: it's not real hardware, but that's it.
[12:56] <miha> ryugi: just make sure you buy extra RAM:)
[12:56] <judgen> Im having the same problem with rhythmbox as yesterday.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/323946 but all music plays... just annoying that dialogue.
[12:56] <judgen> how do i disable it
[12:56] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got a cdrw installed and so on(factory fitted) but ubuntu isnt picking it, any ideas what i can do/try?
[12:56] <ryugi> ok thanks
[12:56] <darth_muzo> ryugi: compiles can go a bit slower, but that's about it unless you're developing drivers or something.
[12:57] <ryugi> ok
[12:57] <miha> ryugi: and buy RAM for both real and virtual OS to use, or swapping will make it extra slow
[12:57] <Chousuke> yeah, you don't want your virtual machine to swap :)
[12:58] <Chousuke> nor your real machine.
[12:58] <Chousuke> but the virtual machine swapping is worse.
[12:58] <darth_muzo> especially if it's on an SSD ;)
[12:58] <nyaa> I got my laptop to do dual monitors but there's only one wallpaper which is split right down the middle and only one of the monitors (original one) has panels, is there a fix for either of these?
[12:58] <carpii_> what window manager?
[12:59] <nyaa> gnome
[12:59] <carpii_> ok, i dont know then sorry
[12:59] <ryugi> miha:8GB should be eough ?
[12:59] <miha> ryugi: i'm sure:)
[12:59] <Chousuke> ryugi: oh, more than enough :)
[12:59] <dayo_> how do i untar a .gz file? i know for .tar.gz it's: tar xvzf foo.tar.gz
[12:59] <nyaa> its kind of impressive regardless because vista wouldn't do 1400x900 resolution for this second monitor =) but I really wish they both at least had wallpaper
[12:59] <darth_muzo> nyaa: I ended up creating a wide wallpaper by stitching together two single-screen ones in an image edit app.
[13:00] <carpii_> gunzip
[13:00] <ryugi> ok
[13:00] <ryugi> :)
[13:00] <miha> ryugi: i thought in range of 3-4 gb:)
[13:00]  * Chousuke runs a virtual machine without swapping with only 3GB
[13:00] <darth_muzo> nyaa: are they same res?
[13:00] <nyaa> darth muzo not even close to same rez =)  your innovation on this matter is somewhat frightening to me lol
[13:00] <darth_muzo> ryugi: are you running a 64-bit version of ubuntu
[13:00] <miha> darth_muzo: gzip -d file.gz
[13:01] <darth_muzo> nyaa: ! same res == ! my solution
[13:01] <miha> darth_muzo: tar means more than one file, and uses gzip then
[13:01] <nyaa> darth_muzo blast!
[13:01] <oCean_> sue: for me next link was helpful (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845) because I had to add option to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[13:01] <oCean_> sue: what does "aplay -l" output?
[13:02] <ryugi> darth_muzo:32 bit version of ubuntu
[13:02] <_2> miha tar is an archiver  i can use compression tools too
[13:03] <bluej> any tiling window manager users here? could you share how you make use of one?
[13:03] <dayo_> carpii,miha: thanks! :-)
[13:03] <_2> s=i=it=
[13:03] <carpii_> np
[13:03] <darth_muzo> dayo_: I think miha's comment was for you - what's the name of the file you're trying to unpack?
[13:03] <[diablo]> Hi, does anyone know where I can set the driver (-D) option in 8.10 please for wpa_supplicant ? I need to ensure it starts with -Dndiswrapper
[13:03] <Kruxer> hiya
[13:04] <dayo_> darth_muzo: README.DB_CONFIG.gz  it worked :-)
[13:04] <sue> oCean: http://pastebin.com/m47f15b18
[13:04] <Kruxer> who can i share files between tow ubuntu systems?I already have a wireless connection and it works ;)
[13:04] <dayo_> Kruxer: scp
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:04] <oCean_> sue: that's not aplay -l ..
[13:05] <Kruxer> dayo_, hmmm thanx :)
[13:05] <lorenzosu> on a 15'' LCD at 1280x960 text looks horrible.
[13:05] <dayo_> Kruxer: u're welcome :-)
[13:05] <darth_muzo> ryugi: Server kernel, or desktop kernel?  From which release?  I'm just recalling something about memory limits.
[13:05] <numpszi> I have installed apache2 and php5 module for apache2. Php is not working. If i try to display a php file, the browser wants to download it. What can be the problem?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !php
[13:05] <sue> Ocean, sorry..hold on
[13:05] <ryugi> darth_muzo: desktop kernel
[13:05] <numpszi> !php
[13:06] <numpszi> ?
[13:06] <nyaa> lorenzosu : try going to system > preferences > appearance, then the fonts tab and use subpixel smoothing =)
[13:06] <sue> oCean: http://pastebin.com/m3a354a5f
[13:06] <carpii_> apache conf + php = http://www.petefreitag.com/item/516.cfm
[13:06] <_2> !info php | numpszi
[13:06] <_2> well php5
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> numpszi: it makes ubottu react, read his words and check the link
[13:06] <nyaa> lorenzosu you can also install the mstt core fonts, those look neat too but its all preferences
[13:06] <oCean_> sue: hint: if you type "oC" and hit <tab>, the nickname will auto-complete..
[13:06] <darth_muzo> ryugi:  I'm not sure whether it's still true, but for a while on gutsy or hardy, if you had the 32-bit desktop kernel, you couldn't address (i.e. use) more than 3GB of physical RAM, but if you had the 32-bit server kernel you could (using PAE aka Physical Address Extensions), but you were still limited to no more than 2 or 3 GB memory per program you're running
[13:07] <lorenzosu> nyaa: That's a bit better... still kind blurry though
[13:07] <sue> oCean_: thanks
[13:08] <sue> oCean_: so, what's it look like?
[13:08] <ryugi> darth_muzo:ok. i feel 3GB of ram assigned to the vm guest should be fine
[13:08] <numpszi> it works! thanks for the help!
[13:08] <nyaa> lorenzosu here's a guide on the core fonts, if you like those. You could also try a different font from the other ones that are available.  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[13:08] <lorenzosu> nyaa: thanks
[13:09] <lorenzosu> nyaa: But this is more of font-independent problem... all fonts look quite bad :(
[13:09] <darth_muzo> dayo_: BTW if you're familiar with the command-line, 'less README.DB.CONFIG.gz' should automagically work without having to manually unpack it, due to the wonders of lesspipe
[13:09] <sue> oCean_: http://pastebin.com/m3a354a5f
[13:09] <sonarsubs> woo hoo, i actually installed something!
[13:09] <oCean_> sue: well you'll probably have to add option to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. On next link (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845) you can find your codec (stac92xx) and possible options. It seems there are lots of options. Maybe you can find your laptop model there
[13:10] <sue> oCean_:  did you get it?
[13:10] <carpii_> lorenzo, font rendering is not quite up to the standard of Windows. Theres patents which mean linux cant use the same techniques I think
[13:10] <carpii_> Use MS core fonts, and after a while you just get used to it
[13:11] <oCean_> sue: yes. Also try "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep -i codec"
[13:11] <carpii_> Also you could try turning off font anti-aliasing for smaller font sizes
[13:11] <Pentaton> how do I install gnome do 8.0?
[13:11] <lorenzosu> carpii_: But I have this problem on this machine (monitor) ... and actually Windows also looks very bad... it has the Intel graphics card
[13:11] <carpii_> oic
[13:12] <carpii_> I dont know why that would be.
[13:12] <sue> oCean_:  Codec: SigmaTel STAC9205   Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
[13:12] <carpii_> whats so bad about the fonts? take a screenshot maybe
[13:13] <spectacular_> hi, i'm trying to set up LaTeX on two ubuntu systems and getting dependency problems on both. anyone aware of these and know how to work around them?
[13:13] <oCean_> sue: okay, that one is in the list at (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845) Seems to be Dell- m42, m43 or m44
[13:15] <sue> oCean_: probably m42, this is a vostro
[13:15] <davidfromoz> I am struggling to completely understand piping.  I can pipe the output of a find command to sort, but when i try to pipe it to a script it says no files to process
[13:15] <carpii_> what is the script expecting as input ?
[13:15] <davidfromoz> a filename
[13:15] <carpii_> a single filename?
[13:16] <davidfromoz> the script is called renrot.  so i pipe it to renrot --no-rname
[13:16] <oCean_> sue: Edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (see mentioned link for details) Add "options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m42" at bottem of that file. Reboot and see if that works.
[13:16] <carpii_> try find <params> | xargs | your_script
[13:16] <carpii_> sorry, try find <params> | xargs your_script
[13:16] <davidfromoz> ok.  thank you
[13:17] <sue> oCean_: so what do I do?
[13:17] <oCean_> sue, see my last line i wrote
[13:17] <darth_muzo> davidfromoz: or, if the script doesn't accept multiple arguments, for f in `find <params`; do renrot --no-rname $f; done
[13:18] <sue> Oh
[13:19] <Kurdish> s
[13:20] <sue> oCean_: thanks, will try rebooting now.
[13:22] <edgy> Hi, I added %%admin ALL=NOPASSWD:  /usr/bin/rsync and expected my users of group admin would run sudo rsync without being prompted for password, but still the prompt appear!
[13:24] <senux> hello
[13:24] <senux> i have problem in pbx
[13:24] <senux> wget problem
[13:24] <senux> i wget and always says :80... failed: Connection refused.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> edgy: if you are rsyncing a folder the user nas access to, to a folder the user has access to it should be ok
[13:24] <senux> how to fix this
[13:24] <senux> please help me
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> senux: if you can give me the whole wget command i'll try it for you
[13:26] <senux> ActionParsnip : all links
[13:26] <senux> i wget
[13:26] <senux> and says ..80... failed: Connection refused.
[13:26] <senux> all links
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> senux: try wget http://www.google.co.uk
[13:26] <aldino> hj
[13:26] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I don't care about permissions now, I mean sudo rsync shouldn't prompt me for the password whatever permissions on the folder are
[13:26] <senux> Resolving www.google.co.uk... <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, ...
[13:26] <senux> Connecting to www.google.co.uk|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... failed: Connection refused.
[13:26] <FloodBot1> senux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> edgy: i think you can make certain command not need sudo
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> senux: have you configured a firewall at all?
[13:28] <sonarsubs> Q: If I download a program like "WINE" from the package manager, where does Ubuntu store the package so I can install it to a computer not connected to the internet?
[13:28] <edgy> ActionParsnip: is it "not need sudo" or "don't need the password of sudo"?
[13:28] <senux> no
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> edgy: i think its "not need sudo" something to do with UIDs
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> sonarsubs: /var/cache/apt
[13:29] <aldino> tyu
[13:29] <senux> ActionParsnip : can help me to set up firewall
[13:29] <sonarsubs> Thanks
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[13:30] <spectacular> unable to install latex (texlive) -- dependency problems.  please see  http://pastebin.ca/1325298   and   http://pastebin.ca/1325301 .  anyone know how to fix this?
[13:32] <spectacular> unable to install latex (texlive) -- dependency problems.  please see  http://pastebin.ca/1325298   and   http://pastebin.ca/1325301 .  anyone know how to fix this?
[13:32] <spectacular> (sorry if that's a repeat, i think i disconnected, not sure if that got through)
[13:32] <pbn> HEllo I've added locales to /var/lib/locales/supported.d, but now locale-gen says "Error: Bad entry" for en_GB.ISO8859-1
[13:33] <pbn> what can I do ?
[13:34] <aldino> []
[13:37] <Skeptiker> Hi! How do I check if I have libv4l installed?
[13:37] <bauer_> i would liek to install ubuntu desttop howto  ? get-apt desktop ?
[13:37] <wxl> how to configure mldonkey ,it does not work!
[13:37] <Pici> bauer_: sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <wxl> is there anyone have used the mldonkey?
[13:38] <bauer_> Pici, thx and if i would upgrade to 8.10 , 64 bit ?
[13:38] <Pici> !upgrade | bauer_ read this
[13:40] <miha> Skeptiker: apt-cache search libv4l gives two packages you need, libv4l-0 is library, libv4l-dev if you want to compile something
[13:41] <miha> Skeptiker: what is the problem?
[13:41] <Skeptiker> miha, I am trying to compile drivers so that I can use my webcam.
[13:42] <miha> Skeptiker: oh ok, anything specific?
[13:42] <spectacular_> xchat hasnt been working properly on my other computer, apparently, so please forgive me for repeating the question here, and if someone answered already, please be kind to paste the response.  i'm unable to install latex (texlive) on ubuntu.  dependency problems apparently surrounding texlive-base-bin.  this is the apt-get output:    http://pastebin.ca/1325298    it refers to a /tmp file, which I put here:  http://pastebin.ca/1325301   can someon
[13:42] <spectacular_> e help me please?
[13:43] <Myrtti> spectacular_: are you running hardy?
[13:43] <Skeptiker> miha, apt-cache search libv4l-dev does not return anything. However if I remove "-dev" I get "libv4l-ruby1.8". It this the one I need?
[13:43] <xanxor> Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me. I had Ubuntu (well, Xubuntu with gnome installed) on my laptop. The laptop's motherboard died so I took out the hard drive, put it in an enclosure and am using it as an external hard drive. But even computer which I know have the BIOS capability of booting from an external hard drive won't boot from it. I've been able to boot successfully from it once. On a different computer, I got as fa
[13:43] <Skeptiker> miha, I am trying to install this one: http://m560x-driver.wiki.sourceforge.net/howto_install
[13:43] <sue> I installed Ubuntu with the windows installer, and it partitioned my drive, how can I get to my windows partition?  I want to get some files off.
[13:44] <bauer_> Pici, thx :o)
[13:45] <oCean_> sue: any luck w sound yet?
[13:45] <savvas> sue: you reboot, while you reboot, press Esc key to show the boot menu
[13:45] <sue> Yes, thanks so much!
[13:45] <oCean_> sue: yay! :)
[13:46] <xanxor> Does anyone have any thoughts about my problem? booting from an external hard drive?
[13:46] <sue> savvas, no I mean in ubuntu, I just want to open it like any other disk
[13:46] <sue> xanor worked for me.
[13:47] <sue> I'm running it fine.
[13:47] <sue> Or do you have a problem?
[13:48] <xanxor> Yes, see my message above.
[13:48] <sue> Oh, right :P
[13:48] <spectacular_> Myrtti, yes, hardy
[13:48] <xanxor> I had Ubuntu (well, Xubuntu with gnome installed) on my laptop. The laptop's motherboard died so I took out the hard drive, put it in an enclosure and am using it as an external hard drive. But even computer which I know have the BIOS capability of booting from an external hard drive won't boot from it. I've been able to boot successfully from it once. On a different computer, I got as far as the splash page then the screen
[13:48] <spectacular_> Myrtti, on two separate laptops, in fact, generating the same error at fmtutil-sys
[13:49] <savvas> sue: you head to Places > your-drive-here Media, type in your password and mount it, then you go again to Places > your-drive-here Media
[13:49] <sue> I don't think you can really boot on a diffrent computer..
[13:49] <Stanlin> help!! the hybernation doesn work when i close the laptop
[13:49] <sue> Stanlin System-Preferences-Power mangement.
[13:49] <Myrtti> spectacular_: just checking, since I've got the same problem with hardy as well.
[13:49] <spectacular_> Myrtti, any solution?
[13:50] <xanxor> sue I don't know what you're talking about. it's on an external drive, of course I can boot it on different computers.
[13:50] <xanxor> that's the point.#
[13:50] <Stanlin> sue: how to launch from terminal?
[13:50] <sue> Oh, dunno.
[13:50] <sue> Can't you do it the gui way?
[13:51] <Stanlin> sue: apparently was uninstalled, how to reinstall
[13:51] <xanxor> So I guess no one has any suggestions, then?
[13:51] <sue> Stanlin, I'm kind of limited in knowledge, sorry...can anyone else help?
[13:52] <blizzkid> lo all. How do you permit login only to members of a certain group?
[13:52] <ViperBorg> Help with what now?
[13:52] <sue> Stanlin..
[13:52] <xanxor> I had Ubuntu (well, Xubuntu with gnome installed) on my laptop. The laptop's motherboard died so I took out the hard drive, put it in an enclosure and am using it as an external hard drive. But even computer which I know have the BIOS capability of booting from an external hard drive won't boot from it. I've been able to boot successfully from it once. On a different computer, I got as far as the splash page then the screen
[13:52] <Davedan> I use vmware on windows. What is the best analoug on ubuntu?
[13:52] <sue> Needs help
[13:52] <ViperBorg> Stanlin, what's the issue you need help with?
[13:52] <sue> savvas no, it doesn't show up there.
[13:53] <xanxor> okay, bye then.
[13:53] <Manix> I'm still lost... :(
[13:53] <Stanlin> ViperBorg: how to enable suspend and hibernation for my laptop, seems power managment was uninstalled or removed
[13:53] <sue> savvas, the drive, that is.
[13:53] <oCean_> Stanlin: using gome, in the upper right corner is a fast user applet. Which also lets me shutdown and hibernate
[13:53] <senux> help me
[13:53] <senux> all
[13:53] <ViperBorg> Stanlin, the options are not available in the fast user applet?
[13:53] <senux> i have problem with wget
[13:53] <Manix> could someone try walking me through fixing grub boot?
[13:54] <Stanlin> ViperBorg: oh, so its not possible to suspend just closing the laptop?
[13:54] <ViperBorg> Depends on the laptop. I know my HP won't do it.
[13:55] <edmondscommerce> hey all
[13:55] <nyaa> hey
[13:55] <edmondscommerce> can anyone recommend a pdf reader that allows me to search within the pdf file (like acrobat reader)
[13:55] <edmondscommerce> document viewer doesnt seem to do it
[13:55] <J3ster> my dell inspiron suports it fine (most the time anyways)
[13:55] <sue> savvas, any ideas?
[13:56] <rakudave> edmondscommerce: he does actually, use Ctrl+F - you could also use Okular which enables annotations
[13:56] <edmondscommerce> ah ok
[13:57] <edmondscommerce> ah sweet :-)
[13:57] <edmondscommerce> much much faster than acrobat on windows as well!
[13:57] <edmondscommerce> rakudave: thanks :-)
[13:57] <rakudave> :-)
[13:58] <Finnish_> What's a good accounting program for ubuntu? I really need one
[13:59] <savvas> sue: can you post the output of this command at http://paste.ubuntu.com : sudo fdisk -l
[13:59] <savvas> sue: also the output of this command: mount
[14:00] <yggdrasill_> hello!
[14:01] <sue> savvas http://paste.ubuntu.com/112779/
[14:01] <rakudave> Finnish_: there are equnomize and grisbi, but I have never used them so you'll have to try the for your self...
[14:01] <Manix> Okay. So I had Vista 64-bit installed using 3 HDDs in RAID 5. I decided I wanted to install Ubuntu so I followed a walk through that had me Shrink a portion of the partition and then install Ubuntu on that. I followed the instructions but now when I try to boot it says, "GRUB loading stage1.5.    GRUB loading please wait...      Error 21" ----- I've tried multiple help sites but I'm not making any progress and to be honest I'm kind-of lost. Can
[14:03] <Davedan> can you recommend a good virtualization software for ubuntu?
[14:03] <Davedan> I'm using vmware on windows xp
[14:03] <rakudave> Davedan: Virtualbox is very good
[14:03] <Davedan>  rakudave: thanks
[14:03] <savvas> sue: did you install your ubuntu using Wubi?
[14:04] <sue> Yes
[14:04] <sue> And, it partitioned the drive for me.
[14:05] <alexutzius> o sa ma reincarnez ca elvis in stefan banica
[14:05] <rakudave> Manix: there are known problems with raid, especially with onboard controllers that use win-only drivers... so I'm afraid you have a serious problem :-/
[14:06] <Manix> I see
[14:06] <savvas> sue: are you on ubuntu right now? I mean.. you're not booting from a live cd right?
[14:07] <sue> No, it's all installed.
[14:07] <sue> I chose 15gb for the partition in Wubi
[14:07] <Manix> So I'm just s.o.l....? Time to format and reinstall?
[14:07] <Caesi> hullo, can anyone help me with installing grub?
[14:08] <savvas> sue: I wouldn't suggest using wubi
[14:08] <kriss3d> uhmm whats the problem with it ?
[14:08] <rakudave> Manix: I'm not 100% sure, but I know of no way to fix that, sorry... (is it an onboard controller?)
[14:08] <kriss3d> savvas:  im using wubi.. its pretty good
[14:08] <kriss3d> and fast..
[14:08] <miha> Caesi: do you have problems or you want a generic guide?
[14:08] <sue> savvas, no I'm on Ubuntu right now, I already installed via Wubi, I chose the 15gb partition size.
[14:08] <Manix> yes onboard raid controller
[14:09] <savvas> sue, kriss3d: fast can be bad: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php look at "Any gotcha?"
[14:09] <rakudave> Manix: then it is very likely that you're out of luck...
[14:09] <daredevilthere> hello all
[14:09] <savvas> sue: it's not a problem, you can delete that ubuntu installation and install it by booting from the cd properly
[14:09] <kriss3d> savvas:  naturally.. but for messing a bit with it it aint bad.
[14:09] <Caesi> miha: problem installing; I have 3 partitions, 1: Win XP; 2: Ubuntu; 3: Win7 Beta.. I tried installing it using gparted live CD
[14:10] <savvas> sue: it should be in your uninstall of windows xp
[14:10] <daredevilthere> How do i remove virus using ubuntu from my windows partation
[14:10] <BrokenClockwork> Hey, how can I run terminal in a split screen? Is there a nice way or just docking 2 screens?
[14:10] <kriss3d> only issue i have right now is to figure out how to mount my regular drive.. i want to set up so i can play wow while in ubuntu
[14:10] <Caesi> miha: mounted the linux drive under gparted and tried grub-install
[14:10] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:10] <sue> savvas, why should I remove my installation?
[14:10] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:10] <LargeHardonColli> How do I get my cock out of the disk drive?
[14:10] <sue> savvas, I just spent several hours getting everything to work :P
[14:10] <miha> Caesi: did you chroot into linux partition?
[14:11] <Caesi> miha: yes
[14:11] <LargeHardonColli> MY PENIS IS STUCK IN MY DISK TRAY
[14:11] <daredevilthere> How do i remove virus from windows partation using linux
[14:11] <LargeHardonColli> OH GOD IT IS HURTING
[14:11] <saurabh_>  i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:11] <BrokenClockwork> Hey, how can I run terminal in a split screen? Is there a nice way or just docking 2 screens?
[14:11] <LargeHardonColli> OH GOD SO MUUCH BLOOD
[14:12] <miha> Caesi: mounted /proc ?
[14:12] <miha> inside /mnt/ubuntu/proc ?
[14:12] <miha> before chroot?
[14:12] <miha> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[14:12] <Caesi> mhh
[14:12] <LargeHardonColli> WHAT DO I NEED TO TYPE INTO THE TERMINAL TO FREE MY PENIS
[14:12] <rakudave> Manix: perhaps you could ask your vendor if there are linux drivers...
[14:12] <sue> Can somebody get rid of that guy?
[14:12] <savvas> sue: your call, don't blame me if anything goes wrong :) kriss3d: would you help sue mount their drive on wubi?
[14:12] <miha> Caesi: without /proc in chroot, grub cant get devices at all
[14:13] <nyaa>  BrokenClockwork: do you mean dual monitors?  or in which way do you mean splitscreen?
[14:13] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:13] <savvas> !ops LargeHardonColli
[14:13] <miha> ubottu: LOL
[14:13] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop version how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:13] <BrokenClockwork> nyaa: On one monitor 2 terminals
[14:13] <BrokenClockwork> 1 left one right
[14:14] <Caesi> miha: thanks for the manual, I'll try it
[14:14] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop can i use the ftp service in it
[14:14] <ssapphiree> Hey all )) Sorry for offtoping, but I don't know where to ask... Native english speakers (or anybody), could you please have a look at this video sample? ) http://www.vimeo.com/3052143  I'm trying to translate "Being Erica" s01e02, but I don't get what they're saying there in the sample. See the description on vimeo. Do you hear what they say?
[14:14] <saurabh_> why is nobody answering me
[14:14] <senux> heloo
[14:15] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:15] <senux> anybody can help me
[14:15] <senux> about pbx root
[14:15] <senux> please
[14:15] <nyaa> BrokenClockwork: if you go into applications, accessories, terminal you should get as many as you want that you can resize etc. There is also the option of using ctrl + alt + f1 - f6 to get terminals (ctrl + alt + f7 brings you back to x if you do that.
[14:15] <miha> savvas: as client or server?
[14:15] <miha> ups
[14:16] <cellofellow> when I try to mount my ~/Private directory I get "keyctl_search: Required key not available". How do I fix this?
[14:16] <SuPeRhAm> [01:15:32] <miha> savvas: as client or server?
[14:16] <SuPeRhAm> [01:15:39] <miha> ups