[00:06] <thegamekeeper> everyone: hi
[00:07] <prodix> hey
[00:09] <thegamekeeper> prodix: hi
[00:10] <eaguad> Hi there, newbie question here. I'm "installing" programs inside /opt folder such as eclipse and sublimetext. The problem is when I tried to execute Salesforce dataloader from there because Dataloader cannot write in this folder.  Should I change the permissions with chown $user:$user or what? I don't know if there is another place to put these files.
[00:10] <zeeds> Hi. I have a AMD x2 4600 and 3gb ddr2 800mhz, my pc can run 64bits aplications. My doubt is if would be more useful run a ubuntu 64bits ou 32bits.
[00:11] <winsen> hi all
[00:12] <kk4ewt> zeeds 64 if your hardware supports
[00:12] <kk4ewt> and that should support
[00:12] <Bashing-om> zeeds: Pros and cons .. the downside is that 32 bit software is being phased out .
[00:12] <kk4ewt> and you can still run 32 bit software on 64bit os
[00:13] <zeeds> Bashing-om, I see with chrome
[00:13] <zeeds> thank you all!
[00:14] <winsen> Bashing-om: hi, are you the guy who tried to help yesterday?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> winsen: Afirmative . How are you comming along ?
[00:19] <winsen> Bashing-om: are you the guy who tried to help yesterday?
[00:20] <winsen> Bashing-om: oops sorry,
[00:20] <winsen> Bashing-om: I am tired but it shall pass, you?
[00:20] <Bashing-om> winsen: Awaiting to pick up from where you are .
[00:21] <Bashing-om> winsen: Very tired ( long day as up very early this AM ) but good for a spell yet .
[00:23] <winsen> Bashing-om: we could say that. half problem resolved. as we said yesterday sda3 and sda8 were basically the question.
[00:24] <winsen> Bashing-om: do you know if it's possible to have both efi and bios boot on the same machine?
[00:25] <winsen> Bashing-om: 2- do you know ho to purge partition without deleting the grub?
[00:25] <Bashing-om> winsen: sda3 and sda8 will be tough to deal with as 14.10 is a long rough road to get to current . Maybe best in this respect to delete these installs and do a fresh clean install of 16.04 .  Just to make sure one can mount the partitions as before, and "look" at all the kernel versions installed: ' ls -al /mnt/looksee/boot/ ' .
[00:25] <winsen> *how
[00:25] <n00b6462> anybody here know anything about wireless?
[00:26] <Bashing-om> winsen: Mutially exclusive . MBR or EFI .
[00:27] <winsen> Bashing-om: so you can't have both.
[00:27] <winsen> Bashing-om: however I thought I read that somewhere...anyway.
[00:28] <winsen> Bashing-om: do you know how to purge partition without deleting the grub?
[00:28] <n00b6462> winsen..   do you know anything about wireless.  i have a simple question about probe networks
[00:28] <n00b6462> or anybody here
[00:28] <n00b6462> do iphones changge their bssid automatically when they are probing
[00:29] <n00b6462> or is that out of ordinary
[00:29] <Bashing-om> Well .. If one were to delete that "primary" booting system on a particular install .. then one would have to re-install the boot code . We still do noot know if sda10 is bootable .
[00:29] <winsen> n00b6462:I'll try if I can
[00:29] <winsen> n00b6462: tell me
[00:30] <kk4ewt> why would an interface change their id if they are probing
[00:31] <n00b6462> i was just scanning for networks for fun and noticed that whenever my friend turns on their phone, 'new probe network detected', but the bssid changes , and its for sure this persons iphone thats doing it, if tested it
[00:31] <kk4ewt> the id if for connection if they are probing  why would they need an is
[00:31] <n00b6462> ive tested it i mean
[00:31] <kk4ewt> yes it can
[00:31] <n00b6462> so thats normal right, its just their phone, scanning for a wifi point
[00:32] <n00b6462> not them wardriving me or anything
[00:32] <n00b6462> because my router itself keeps getting wan attacks
[00:32] <kk4ewt> no its their phone enabled to share wifi
[00:32] <n00b6462> oh, so its not the iphone looking for
[00:32] <n00b6462> wifi its the iphone sharing wifi
[00:32] <kk4ewt> n00b6462,  of course you are
[00:33] <kk4ewt> be sure you have good passwords on your routor
[00:33] <n00b6462> you mean on the router kk4ewt?  thats typical these days right, wanattacks
[00:33] <kk4ewt> yes
[00:33] <n00b6462> okay
[00:33] <kk4ewt> lock it down
[00:33] <n00b6462> thanks for the info so far, now one other question
[00:33] <kk4ewt> lock it down and change the default password
[00:33] <n00b6462> i dont know why she would be sharing wifi is it possible her phone has malware on it that is making a wifi point for people to access
[00:34] <kk4ewt> n00b6462,  all phones can be a AP
[00:34] <n00b6462> im just in a civil case and the opposing party is trying to get information on me.
[00:34] <winsen> Bashing-om: you didn't tell me
[00:34] <kk4ewt> and you are on the internet and on IRC
[00:34] <n00b6462> yah but these girl is kind of an air head i dont see why she would be setting up a wifi point, but now I finally know that it is her iphone turning into a wifi point
[00:34] <n00b6462> is the name 'any' normal for that?
[00:35] <kk4ewt> any normal for what
[00:35] <n00b6462> why is it called a probe network if its an ap though, now that i think of it.  it doesnt show up when i scan for wifi networks with my smartphone
[00:35] <n00b6462> The name of the 'probe network' is 'any'
[00:35] <n00b6462> this is from kismet, kk4ewt
[00:35] <kk4ewt> btw you are really offtopic for this channel
[00:35] <Bashing-om> winsen: " you didn't tell me  " I have no frame of reference with that statement . please use complete sentences . Now I did not tell you waht ?
[00:35] <n00b6462> encryption,  no, channel 0, 72.2 mbit,  and a new BSSID all the time
[00:36] <kk4ewt> any is the internal for kismet to look at any networks
[00:36] <n00b6462> I'm very aware of that kk4 but all the other channels are like not happy with security questions apparently
[00:37] <kk4ewt> n00b6462,  lock down your routor and you can also turn the power down that only your devices see it
[00:37] <kk4ewt> change the default password
[00:37] <n00b6462> i did, and its not accessible online , er shouldnt be
[00:38] <kk4ewt> test and see
[00:38] <n00b6462> but im more curious to know if this girl is intentionially doing this, she was living her, so i kinda need to know
[00:38] <n00b6462> she was saying her phone did 198 gigs of data in a few days or something like that
[00:38] <kk4ewt> n00b6462,  most likely not
[00:38] <winsen> n00b6462: I am afraid to not be helpfull. what kind of os/kernel on your phone? network, 2,3,4,5g?
[00:38] <kk4ewt> she has enabled tethering
[00:39] <n00b6462> my phone is off because of concerns, but my 'room' mate she has an iphone, i am running 'weaker then' pen tester at the moment on a live cd
[00:40] <Yukon> Hello
[00:40] <Yukon> Can someone please help me
[00:40] <n00b6462> Okay but why do I only see the network from kismet, and not from scanning for normal wifi points?
[00:40] <kk4ewt> n00b6462,  its her phone settings
[00:41] <Bashing-om> !ask | Yukon
[00:41] <kk4ewt> if she wants to tether her laptop to her phone thats her business
[00:41] <winsen> Bashing-om: I need to purge sda8 which takes 2 lines on the grub and I don't need it.
[00:41] <n00b6462> yea and thats fine and great.     but how does she connect to a n etwork you cant see
[00:41] <n00b6462> except with kismet?
[00:41] <n00b6462> she  came to me and asked if her phone was compromised.
[00:42] <kk4ewt> as long as she doesnt connect to you then whats the issue
[00:42] <Yukon> I've just download ubuntu onto my T430s thinkpad. when I ifconfig -a, there is no wlan0. Wireshark can't go into monitor mode because I dont have a wlan0. I've downloaded the drivers off of the intel website and extracted them. I now have a iwlwifi.ucode file. I can't get this to isntall, how do I install it? Thanks
[00:42] <kk4ewt> look in the routor and see if you see her devices
[00:42] <winsen> n00b6462: you didn'(
[00:43] <Bashing-om> winsen: Proceed with due thought . IF you have no current release installed ( such that there is access to the software repo ), then you have no way to re-install grub to have a booting system .
[00:43] <winsen> n00b6462: you didn't hilightmy nick, I can't follow you sorry.
[00:43] <kk4ewt> turn off tehtering
[00:43] <kk4ewt> but we are offtopic for this channel
[00:43] <n00b6462> are there any channels that you know of that are in this area
[00:43] <n00b6462> :>
[00:44] <nikolam> It seems to me I can't see cache devices on Ubuntu for my ZFS pool.
[00:44] <kk4ewt> look and see
[00:44] <winsen> Bashing-om: what is /are thecommand line to do it in a good and easy way.
[00:44] <nikolam> I can see disk and mirrored intention log devices, but cache devices are listed as unavailable
[00:45] <nikolam> pool is made on illumos (I have 2 disk system of ubuntu on one disk and Openindiana/illumos on another)
[00:45] <nikolam> idea is to use both systems on same zfs pool for data
[00:45] <winsen> n00b6462: what kind of phone are you using?
[00:45] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/a7703aba4007
[00:46] <Bashing-om> winsen: I can read " to do it : ro have several meanings . can you be the more specific ? delete sda8 ? check for a bootable system ? release upgrade ect ect ect ??
[00:47] <n00b6462> winsen, she is using an iphone
[00:47] <winsen> Bashing-om: I already formated the partition but I still lines appear on Grub2.
[00:48] <winsen> *but lines still appears...
[00:48] <winsen> appear
[00:49] <Bashing-om> winsen: Yeah Grub boot menu will remain unchanged .. will be there until we boot that primary system and have grub r-configure it's self .
[00:50] <winsen> n00b6462: #iphone would help more
[00:51] <winsen> n00b6462: or #iphonedev
[00:52] <n00b6462> ok
[00:55] <winsen> Bashing-om: as I told you, I already upgraded it. now my are there any good and easy way to puge sda8 partition without deleting the grub
[00:55] <winsen> ?
[00:55] <winsen> Bashing-om: the grub is on sda0
[00:56] <winsen> Bashing-om: I'll try something now, we'll see. brb
[00:56] <Bashing-om> winsen: Again .. depends, what is the primary booting system ? If that primary is on sda8 and you delete sda8 then yes boot gets broken .
[01:05] <laurus> Is there a piece of software that can keep track of Birthdays and show a notification when someone's birthday arrives?
[01:06] <Nemesis> hi
[01:06] <sancheco> is there someone ?
[01:12] <laurus> Is there a piece of software that can keep track of Birthdays and show a notification when someone's birthday arrives?
[01:13] <kk4ewt> like a calendar??
[01:17] <laurus> kk4ewt, yes
[01:34] <xubuntu_noob> Hello
[01:35] <xubuntu_noob> I'm installing alongside Windows, but am a bit lost over partitions. Any help would be appreciated.
[01:36] <gamester> Will Unity 8 be able to run/display Wayland programs?
[01:37] <xangua> gamester: what exactly do you call a Wayland program?
[01:37] <xangua> This seems to be more a #Ubuntu+ 1 question
[01:37] <gamester> xangua: a program that uses the wayland protocol to implement a GUI
[01:38] <xubuntu_noob> Right, don't ask to ask
[01:38] <Bashing-om> xubuntu_noob: The easy way is to boot the install medium in same boot scheme as Windows, and in the installer choose " install ubuntu along side " and let the wizard take care of all the details of partitioning .
[01:38] <xubuntu_noob> http://i.imgur.com/2MmdMwc.png
[01:38] <gamester> xangua: what else could I have meant?
[01:38] <slev> hellooo
[01:40] <xubuntu_noob> Bashing-om> I have none of those options
[01:40] <firestrtr> sup ☺
[01:41] <slev> dont start a fire
[01:41] <Bashing-om> xubuntu_noob: Too late for that^^  .. I am no longer Windows literate . others will have to guide you on fixing this .
[01:42] <firestrtr> lol
[01:42] <xubuntu_noob> Oh, I'm in Xubuntu right now, from the live CD
[01:43] <xubuntu_noob> "Erase disk and Install Xubuntu" and "Something else" were are my options. I entered the latter and am in this screen http://i.imgur.com/2MmdMwc.png
[01:44] <Bashing-om> xubuntu_noob: Understood . but the Windows install to me is no longer consistent . I would prefer that those with the Windows experience come to your aid  to get Windows straight and then properly install xubuntu "manual" .
 Thank you anyway
[01:45] <slev> whats wrong with your windows install?
[01:46] <firestrtr> what is xubuntu ♽
[01:47] <xubuntu_noob> Ubuntu packaged with XFCE
[01:47] <Bashing-om> xubuntu_noob: Well . no help from me is not the best thing you may have hoped for . Hang loose here and await better guidance .
[01:48] <xubuntu_noob> Bashing-om I appreciate it anyway :)
[01:49] <firestrtr> oh  i just player to the holy gods of the term no gui needed ;)
[01:49] <firestrtr> *pray
[01:53] <Bashing-om> aswq624: Ask again in about 15 minutes if ya get no other response .
[01:53] <aswq624> Alrighty
[01:53] <thingfish> aswq624: what are you wanting to accomplish?
[01:54] <aswq624> thingfish: Partition stuff so that Xubuntu installs alongside Windows http://i.imgur.com/2MmdMwc.png
[01:54] <thingfish> aswq624: if I were you, I would go back to Windows and make room for Ubuntu first.
[01:55] <thingfish> judging by that graphic you posted, you have do available disk space for Ubuntu.
[01:55] <thingfish> *no
[01:55] <firestrtr> i just bought this laptop with linux im for light weight games for my trip. recommendations??
[01:56] <Sean_McG> I like Rocket League a lot
[01:57] <aswq624> Gonna try this from inside Windows
[01:57] <aswq624> Thank you
[01:58] <firestrtr> im worried my laptop might not handle it
[01:58] <Sean_McG> in fact, I think I will go play some now
[01:59] <firestrtr> knock one in for me
[02:00] <Bashing-om> ashimema: Remeber to defrag windows prior to changing partitions, and also run Windows check disk after the room is made up .
[02:02] <slev>
[02:02] <SchrodingersScat> firestrtr: can always search 'game' in either the software center, apt, aptitude, synaptic, your choice.  Steam also has non-free games you could try, some are free as in money. what type of game?
[02:02] <firestrtr> changing partition is a pain. I nearly set set my friends computer on fire when witching him over to a ssd
[02:04] <firestrtr> and Im just noticing how ironic that is givin my name
[02:04] <SchrodingersScat> the troubled firestrtr
[02:08] <firestrtr> i didnt know the software center had games
[02:09] <Juanete> hello guys I'm having an URGENT message with a dmoain down in prod. PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function PrestaShop\\PrestaShop\\Core\\Addon\\Theme\\json_decode()
[02:09] <Juanete> CAn anyone help me please?
[02:09] <cfhowlett> !ask | Juanete
[02:11] <SchrodingersScat> firestrtr: yep, has a bunch, ranging from strategy to first person shooter, so really depends on what you feel like.  although for FPS I normally prefer UrbanTerror or CS:GO, UrbanTerror is like CS if it was a mod on the quake3
[02:11] <cfhowlett> Juanete, sorry, I missed the details.  patience please
[02:12] <Juanete> no worries cfhowlett
[02:15] <firestrtr> SchrodingerScat: I travel a bit so network heavy and high rez will be tough
[02:33] <firestrtr> i ♥ coding, i just wish  i wasn't so (poop) at typing
[02:36] <zhangjun> hello
[02:37] <firestrtr> hi
[02:39] <firestrtr> can you tell me how this works? (I'm worried I might a break a rule)
[02:39] <Bashing-om> firestrtr: Well, learn touch typing . 100 times " now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country . " now close eyes and type it 1000 times . :))
[02:40] <firestrtr> its just a lot of people log on but no one is talking
[02:41] <Bashing-om> firestrtr: Here is Operating System support .. chatter in in #ubuntu-offtopic .
[02:50] <finch> pls need help
[02:51] <Bashing-om> !ask | finch
[02:51] <finch> how can i install icon park
[02:52] <finch> ok thanks for that
[02:52] <xangua> Currently installing Ubuntu 16.10 on SSD, besides disabling windows fast boot what else should I do to get Ubuntu to boot?
[02:55] <finch> how can install icon park on ubuntu 16.04
[02:58] <joshua__> hola
[02:58] <joshua__> there's someone here to talk?
[02:58] <joshua__> HI there
[02:58] <joshua__> anyone fuck
[02:59] <joshua__> why dont you send us some porn packs?
[02:59] <joshua__> dasdkasf
[02:59] <joshua__> sudo apt-get update
[03:00] <finch> how can install icon park on ubuntu 16.04
[03:08] <finch> how to install icon park in ubuntu 16.04
[03:09] <xangua> Should I disable UEFI boot:-( I don't know how to boot into Ubuntu
[03:10] <Bashing-om> !details | finch What is "icon park ?"
[03:12] <Bashing-om> xangua: Disable "fast boot " make sure that Windows is completly shut down if you are setting up dual boot .
[03:12] <finch> i want to install icon park on my ubuntu 16.04 i can do that
[03:13] <xangua> Bashing-om: already disabled fast boot, turn off windows
[03:14] <xangua> When I turn on, press f12 to select boot order but only windows boot manager is available
[03:15] <Bashing-om> xangua:  Now unless some type of vendor lockin (Acer) is at play . should be all that is needed .
[03:17] <Bashing-om> xangua: What is the install medium ? That must be chossen as the boot device in the firmware .
[03:18] <xangua> Bashing-om: USB (selected USB HDD)
[03:18] <xangua> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Sovem9w0/irccloudcapture507093876.jpg
[03:19] <Bashing-om> xangua: K, So far so good .. and what results when booting the USB drive ? ( want to " try ubuntu " mode to test prior to install ) .
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: Is it possible the Live image corrupted itself on write? That's happened to me before.
[03:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Bashing-om: It's impossible for him to boot the USB stick
[03:23] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: xangua Then it is back to square one and verify the .iso file (md5sum). and then boot to the install boot options screen and " check disk for defects" .
[03:29] <xangua> Should I disable secure boot also?
[03:29] <donjuan> When I go to login to the CUPS web interface (http://localhost:631) it asks for my root password--and my root password doesn't give me accesc, forbiden
[03:30] <donjuan> can help me
[03:31] <Dr-007> i've got a network interface. i created a config in /etc/network/interfaces.d/mynetworkconfig with a netmask set to <IP_ADDRESS> but when i check out ifconfig it does not say its using that netmask
[03:31] <Dr-007> oh. wait
[03:31] <taofeng> hi
[03:38] <skypce> fuck
[03:39] <skypce> i was paste my password in freenode
[03:39] <skypce> how can i delete a line from irc?
[03:39] <Logan> you can't do that
[03:39] <Logan> just change the password
[03:39] <skypce> ok
[03:39] <skypce> thank you logan
[03:39] <wAaTy> c
[03:39] <Logan> np
[03:40] <wAaTy> f
[03:40] <wAaTy> c
[03:40] <wAaTy> c
[03:40] <wAaTy> c
[03:40] <skypce> it is possible that people change the name of compiler by a petition?
[03:41] <skypce> i was telled it in elementary, by the vala compiler
[03:41] <skypce> it is called as a demon
[03:41] <xangua> I think I'll just dd Ubuntu
[03:41] <skypce> i think that it is the origin of my nightmares
[03:41] <skypce> i told
[03:41] <skypce> hahah
[03:43] <skypce> solution is easy, i will rename the bin in /usr/bin
[03:58] <Peyto> hello
[03:59] <wAaTy> hi
[03:59] <jayjo> I upgraded to ubuntu 16.06 on my desktop machine, and recently it kicks back after I enter my password. Is there a way to get around this pretty quickly?
[03:59] <jayjo> kicks back meaning it just goes right back to the "enter password" dashboard
[03:59] <jayjo> before I'm logged in
[04:00] <wedgie> jayjo: can you login from a tty? press ctrl+alt+F2 to get to one
[04:01] <jayjo> wedgie: yes I can
[04:02] <jayjo> Or I should say... I just did. I hadn't done so before
[04:02] <SonikkuAmerica> jayjo: If you can head in through a TTY, see if trashing ~/.Xauthority works.
[04:04] <sohail-ahmed> when I enter gnome-mouse-properties in my command line, it say command not found. Any help?
[04:05] <SonikkuAmerica> sohail-ahmed: Use [ gnome-control-center ] instead.
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> (or, if you're using Unity, unity-control-center) sohail-ahmed
[04:07] <Peyto> I downloaded tor and whenever I open it it starts as a tor to web not the actual tor browser. Help?
[04:07] <sohail-ahmed> thanks but it says the program gnome-control-center is not installed
[04:08] <jayjo> SonikkuAmerica: what is this directory? do you mean rm -r the whole thing? Do I leave the dir itself or will it recreate?
[04:08] <SonikkuAmerica> jayjo: It's a file.
[04:08] <sohail-ahmed> clear
[04:09] <sohail-ahmed> SonikkuAmerica: Thanks but it says that the program gnome-control-center is not installed either
[04:09] <SonikkuAmerica> jayjo: It stores Xorg's authentication tokens on a per-user basis. If [ rm ~/.Xauthority ] results in you being able to log in to a GUI successfully, you can assume it was an X authentication problem that got fices.
[04:09] <SonikkuAmerica> *fixed.
[04:09] <sohail-ahmed> SonikkuAmerica: Should I install it?
[04:09] <jayjo> What is this file? It's a few bytes?
[04:10] <SonikkuAmerica> sohail-ahmed: No, try [ unity-control-center ] instead.
[04:10] <jayjo> OK... I will try
[04:10] <sohail-ahmed> SonikkuAmerica: it says the same thing
[04:10] <SonikkuAmerica> sohail-ahmed: What desktop environment do you have installed?
[04:10] <yorwos> hi , i had problems in the past loading steam , after purging/installing libstdc++.so.6 and   i dont know what i did exactly but i am having overlay problems since then,  i have a left and a right panel , while some programs like firefox,etc load normally, some others like terminal load and come up behind the left panel and i have to move the window to see whats in there. any ideas what i might have purged ? i think i purged an older version
[04:10] <yorwos>  of libstdc++6 or something but i cant figure out what to do
[04:11] <sohail-ahmed> SonikkuAmerica: lsb_realease -a returns gnome shell
[04:11] <Sean_McG> I've often disabled the steam overlay when it was causing crashes for me
[04:11] <SonikkuAmerica> sohail-ahmed: Are you currently using GNOME 3?
[04:11] <jayjo> Deleted ~/.Xauthority... same issue still
[04:11] <sohail-ahmed> SonikkuAmerica: how can I confirm that?
[04:11] <jayjo> Just can't get past the login screen
[04:12] <xangua> Finally booted into Ubuntu!!❤❤
[04:12] <yorwos> im not even running steam anymore but the problem now exists with the other programs i got, using xfce also btw
[04:12] <jayjo> but can login to a shell just fine
[04:12] <SonikkuAmerica> sohail-ahmed: Send us a screenshot using Imgur
[04:12] <Bashing-om> !yah | xangua
[04:13] <Hi47> I downloaded tor and whenever I open it it starts as a tor to web not the actual tor browser. Help?
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Hi47: If you're looking for the Tor Browser, see https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian . We can't support the latest version here, but we have outdated packages in universe.
[04:14] <sohail-ahmed> SonikkuAmerica: http://imgur.com/a/QWrKh
[04:15] <xangua> Are there any special steps to install Ubuntu to SSD? Set up a swap partition? 8GB RAM
[04:18] <Zna> I downloaded tor and whenever I open it it starts as a tor to web not the actual tor browser. Help?
[04:19] <sohail-ahmed> SonikkuAmerica: Did you get the image?
[04:19] <Zna> I might have I donwloaded it from like 3 different places
[04:19] <jayjo> Is there a troubleshooting guide for not being able to get past the login screen? I just can't lose this data. Knowing that I can loging to the shell I can recover everything I need and then just reinstall? is that my only option? not a great a option
[04:19] <jayjo> *login to the shell
[04:20] <wAaTy> xangua: arch is better
[04:20] <Sean_McG> someone's in the wrong channel
[04:21] <xangua> Should I set up a swap partition to install Ubuntu into a SSD?
[04:22] <sohail-ahmed> gnome-mouse-properties returns command not found, any help?
[04:27] <sohail-ahmed> I am using gnome 3 and gnome-mouse-properties returns command not found
[04:29] <wAaTy> Sean_McG: nah
[04:33] <wAaTy> arch > *
[04:38] <ribs> My chromium browser isn't loading the adobe flash plugin on ubuntu 16.04. Can anybody help fix that?
[04:38] <xangua> ribs: use Firefox, while it still supports Mozilla plugins
[04:39] <DalekSec> ribs: 'adobe-flashplugin' in the partner repo also contains PPAPI flash.
[04:39] <xangua> Chromium/chrome dropped Mozilla plugins support long ago
[04:39] <xangua> DalekSec: that's only for Mozilla plugin compatible browsers
[04:40] <DalekSec> xangua: No, NPAPI is, PPAPI is the other one.
[04:40] <cyberspectre> Troubleshooting a game on Ubuntu.  Where can I find the crash report?
[04:41] <stan_man_can> Whats the "Soft Limit" vs "Hard Limit" for Max open files ?
[04:41] <ribs> I had even installed pepperflash player which didn't work
[04:44] <DalekSec> ribs: browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash is to allow NPAPI based browsers to load PPAPI flash.
[04:44] <DalekSec> Which, isn't chromium.
[04:45] <xangua> ribs: install Google chrome if you want flash
[04:45] <DalekSec> xangua: Again, one doesn't have to do that..
[04:45] <xangua> Oh
[04:46] <xangua> Sorry, I don't use chrome/chromium
[04:46] <DalekSec> Nor do I. :P
[04:48] <DalekSec> xangua: FWIW, last I knew you enabled PPAPI flash and gave the path in /etc/chromium-browser/default (or another defaults file?  Perhaps one can do it from the GUI.)  Granted, it's easier to just install adobe-flashplugin and use firefox, or grab Chrome, but isn't required.
[04:48] <wAaTy> Sorry I use firefox
[04:49] <ribs> So, anyways to fix the problem of installed flashplugin not working in Firefox?
[04:51] <DalekSec> ribs: What flash package do you have installed?  Can you confirm by going to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ ?
[04:52] <yorwos> ribs: adobe flash version for firefox is very old. you can use chromium's flash in firefox to use the latest version of flash , google it
[04:53] <yorwos> yea that pepperflash oops :D told b4 ok
[04:53] <ribs> It is flashplugin-installer/<IP_ADDRESS>4
[04:59] <yorwos> thinking about the fact my system is kinda old, im questioning myself if i did the right thing upgrading to 16.04 (from 14.04) . is there any way to check if my specific hardware is getting better perfomance with the newest kernels ?
[05:01] <FireStriker> hi
[05:01] <FireStriker> whats the system requirments for kubuntu
[05:03] <xangua> FireStriker: mostly the same as regular Ubuntu
[05:03] <FireStriker> k
[05:07] <sohail-ahmed> I am using gnome 3, but gnome-mouse-properties returns command not found... same is for the command gnome-control-center. Should I install gnome-control center or is there some other solution?
[05:17] <stan_man_can> how do i increase the max open files?
[05:17] <stan_man_can> ulimit -n says 1024
[05:23] <Sean_McG> g'night all
[05:24] <stan_man_can> I'm getting http: Accept error: accept tcp [::]:3232: accept4: too many open files; retrying in ...
[05:27] <werdfriek> I'm using Gnome terminal 3.18.3 on Ubuntu 16.04. Does anyone know if there's a way to change the font, font size, color, bold/ unbold   from the gui (Edit > Profile Preferences?). I've been tweaking some things in there but haven't been able to find options to tweak the font of the command line from the gui.
[05:27] <werdfriek> Can anyone help?
[05:29] <werdfriek> What I mean is the part of the command line to the left of what appears when you type. The 'user@domanin: ~$  part
[05:30] <stan_man_can> werdfriek, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt
[05:31] <werdfriek> stan_man_can:  thx. but do you know if there is a way using the gui? I have no problem editing a bashrc (or whatever that said) - just would prefer a gui soln for this if it exists.
[05:32] <stan_man_can> werdfriek, not that i know of
[05:32] <stan_man_can> doesn't mean it doesn't exist though
[05:32] <werdfriek> Oh ok, thx. I though maybe I was missing something or in the wrong place
[05:32] <werdfriek> peace
[05:47] <techspan1>  anyone know how netcat performs command redirection with stdin, stdout, and stderr. I know the commands to run, but I want to know specifically how it works.
[05:48] <xlmtx> Hi, any ideas please why the android phone is seen 'lsusb' but is not seen by 'sufo fdisk -l' ?
[05:50] <Random832> xlmtx, most phones these days aren't mountable as block devices, you have to use MTP protocol.
[05:52] <xlmtx> Random832, I used this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2274028&p=13266735#post13266735
[05:52] <Random832> xlmtx, and what part of that makes you think fdisk should see it
[05:53] <xlmtx> Sorry, I though it should :)
[05:53] <xlmtx> But tell me please, now what I have to do to access my phone ?
[05:53] <wAaTy> what Random832 said
[05:54] <xlmtx> Oook :) "use MTP protocol"
[05:55] <xlmtx> Any link for it please?
[05:58] <wAaTy> on ubuntu it should work out of the box
[06:00] <xlmtx> wAaTy, excuse me, I use the minimal package of Ubuntu...
[06:01] <wAaTy> xlmtx: oh okay :)
[06:03] <werdfriek> stan_man_can: I changed the code for color in my .bashrc but I found out it wasn't my desired result. I'm not sure I'm seeing all the intricacies of this. I'm not very familiar with these bash files (enough to stare at it for a while and figure it out is all) - but I was hoping I could control: (1) What the font is (2) It's color (3) Attributes like bold or italic, etc  <--- for each of: (a)...
[06:03] <werdfriek> ...the 'usre@domain: ~$ ' part  (b) the part to the right of a that the user types in, and (c) the output displayed after pushing the enter key.
[06:04] <werdfriek> dunno
[06:07] <werdfriek> Even if I could just set a different color for input vs. output would be wonderful
[06:15] <xangua> Should I set up a swap partition when installing to an SSD? 8 GB RAM
[06:15] <werdfriek> I set the font and font color for Gnome terminal via the gui through Edit > Profile Preferences  but when I edited .bashrc  in an attempt to change only the color of the terminal output (not input)  it changed the font color of both the input and output and the output -- why?
[06:16] <venzen> werdfriek: as far i know the font setting applies to all terminal output, so no changing of fonts in the same term
[06:17] <werdfriek> venzen: I see
[06:18] <venzen> there may be some other terminal implementations like aterm that allow more tweaking, but in my years i've always seen term output in a single font
[06:19] <venzen> but you can bold, italic and normal your prompt, so changing input and output may be possible
[06:20] <ubuntu254> hi guys i have a amd laptop with amd graphics which im trying to install ubuntu onto
[06:20] <ubuntu254> im have a bit of a picle trying to getinto the live cd
[06:21] <ubuntu254> it keeps flashing the splash at me
[06:26] <unicornjedi> anyone want to help me with LIRC? :D I need irw doesnt seem to want to execute
[06:30] <kbob> ~1~/quit
[06:30] <vaba> hi
[06:32] <ubuntu254> hi guys i have a amd laptop with amd graphics which im trying to install ubuntu onto. it keeps flashing the splash at me not proseding to enter the live cd
[06:33] <vaba> amd
[06:34] <vaba> !info amd
[06:34] <ubuntu254> yep i know its shit but its all i have
[06:34] <vaba> !info non-pae
[06:35] <ubuntu254> !amd
[06:35] <ubuntu254> is that it?
[06:36] <vaba> 32bit or 64
[06:36] <bytepoison> hi
[06:37] <ubuntu254> 64 bit vaba
[06:37] <ubuntu254> 2013
[06:38] <vaba> dvd live cd broken?
[06:38] <ubuntu254> nope dont think so
[06:38] <ubuntu254> just made it
[06:38] <ubuntu254> also its a usb
[06:39] <vaba> UEFI/bios?
[06:40] <ubuntu254> yep uefi
[06:40] <ubuntu254> no legucly mode
[06:45] <ubuntu254> hi guys i have a amd laptop with amd graphics which im trying to install ubuntu onto. it keeps flashing the splash at me not proseding to enter the live cd. uefi bios, 16.04 iso, 'live usb', 2013 laptop
[06:47] <jim> what does a ^ mean at the end of a packagename in apt-get?
[06:52] <RainbowDashy> hi guys i have a amd laptop with amd graphics which im trying to install ubuntu onto.
[06:52] <RainbowDashy> its a 2013 laptop with uefi bios (no legicy)
[06:53] <RainbowDashy> the problem is that when i try to boot the try me option it complanes about not being able to find a raderon backlight controler before the splash goes nut.
[06:53] <guardianL_> the splash goes nut
[06:53] <RainbowDashy> the splash flashese for ages not contuinming itno the install
[06:54] <guardianL_> no idea
[06:54] <RainbowDashy> thers text but i cant read the speed its goeing up at
[07:00] <wtn4726> Kingsy: still need help with ax88179_178a.ko in mini installer?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !ping
[07:32] <soffia1999> hello!
[07:32] <soffia1999> I was wondering if someone here could help me with applying a solution to my laptop
[07:32] <cfhowlett> !ask | soffia1999
[07:32] <soffia1999> the touchpad doesnt work after suspending
[07:34] <sruli> soffia1999: did you try google? i see many results https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ubuntu%20touchpad%20stops%20after%20resume%20from%20suspension
[07:35] <soffia1999> I have an asus f302l laptop - touchpad does not work after suspending. my touchpad is elentech touchpad. I found this thread https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1490130 according to it this is a kernel issue, the solution seems to have been given by a patchset commit from Linus Torvalds last month http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=689f891c980949d3eb64f61651db53cb347e0a13
[07:35] <soffia1999> Unfortunately I have no idea how to apply this solution
[07:39] <sruli> soffia1999: so your question is how to apply a new patch yo your kernel, i dont know maybe someone else can help
[07:41] <soffia1999> thanks sruli, i would be really happy this problem has made me really sad for a long time
[07:59] <venzen> soffia1999: websearch "linux patch kernel". Its straightforward but too much to explain in IRC
[08:00] <venzen> the stock ubuntu kernel is bloated because Canonical must necessarily cater for as wide an audience as possible
[08:06] <TomyWork> I'm using Git from the "Ubuntu Git Maintainers" team's PPA, because, frankly, Git 1.9.1 without  worktrees sucks :)
[08:06] <unicornjedi> anyone want to help me get my RF remote working with kodi? I verified that my latop is receiving the signal
[08:06] <TomyWork> is there a way to make Muon not complain about updating unofficial packages?
[08:06] <TomyWork> muon updater that is
[08:07] <osama> سلام علكم
[08:07] <osama> فى حد هنا عربي
[08:08] <rdh> soffia1999, if your interested... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[08:08] <cfhowlett> !arabic | osama
[08:09] <TomyWork> that is clever... can be read from the right and it's arabic, and from left then it's english :)
[08:11] <rdh> soffia1999, coming from gentoo, building a kernel isn't a difficult task just pay attention
[08:11] <blut> Hello. I am using ubuntu 16.04 LTS with multiple desktop managers installed. How can I get lightdm to remember the last used session for each user even after a reboot?
[08:11] <osama> : /join#ubunyu-arabic
[08:11] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-arabic
[08:12] <ikevin> unicornjedi, does it work with lirc?
[08:13] <unicornjedi> ikevin: idk I ran irw and nothing came out but when I ran irrecord -t (or something like that) it read my button presses
[08:13] <yans> yo
[08:15] <ikevin> unicornjedi, stop lirc service, create a config with irrecord, copy the config to /etc/lirc/lircd.conf then start lirc
[08:15] <rdh> soffia1999, and it appears that the git method is bleeding edge, so you would need to apply a patch.
[08:15] <unicornjedi> ikevin: one of my remotes is on the lirc website
[08:15] <soffia1999> rdh, thanks for the link in it it says: "All of the Ubuntu Kernel source is maintained under git. The source for each release is maintained in its own git repository on kernel.ubuntu.com. To obtain a local copy you can simply git clone the repository for the release you are interested in as shown below."  is it right to assume that the commit I found above is the repository that I need to clone and then I can follow the instruct
[08:17] <ikevin> unicornjedi, and they provide a config file?
[08:17] <rdh> soffia1999, git clone "git:://url" is how you use git to grab sources.
[08:17] <soffia1999> rdh, or since the git version is bleeding edge I should be able to follow the git instructions exactly as this commit would be included
[08:18] <soffia1999> i.e. it would be included in git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-precise.git?
[08:18] <rdh> soffia1999, we will have to see if they have applied that patch already.
[08:22] <unicornjedi> ikevin: yes and i put it in the lircd.conf file
[08:22] <unicornjedi> ikevin: then i try irw an nothing happens
[08:23] <sruli> i need a good bash coder to help me for a few days finish and test complex set of scripts, decent payment in return, pm me if interested, thanks
[08:23] <ikevin> unicornjedi, have you restarted lirc?
[08:23] <unicornjedi> ikevin:  yesss
[08:24] <ikevin> unicornjedi, any error in log file?
[08:24] <unicornjedi> ikevin: oh where do  i find that'
[08:24] <rdh> soffia1999, you mind if i pm you?
[08:25] <ikevin> unicornjedi, if it's not already defined, add --logfile=/path/to/file in the daemon command
[08:25] <soffia1999> of course not :)
[08:25] <soffia1999> rdh
[08:25] <ikevin> sruli, what kind of bash script?
[08:27] <sruli> ikevin: responded in PM
[08:30] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[08:31] <lambertu> Just another day in developers world, you?
[08:36] <crazycoder> hello
[08:37] <crazycoder> can i set somehow a clenup of my tmp for files > 30 minutes ago?
[08:37] <lambertu> Hello
[08:37] <lambertu> you can set date and time
[08:37] <lambertu> use bleacbit
[08:37] <lambertu> and reset the time
[08:37] <lambertu> logs will show wrong time
[08:37] <saswt> hi
[08:39] <sruli> ikevin: i responded...
[08:40] <bytetrial> hello
[08:41] <lambertu> Hi
[08:42] <bytetrial> hello
[08:44] <lenswipee> how to change from single click action to double click like windows?
[08:44] <dddddd> hi scooby
[08:44] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[08:44] <lambertu> What you want to do?
[08:45] <lambertu> most settings can be found in system settings or unity-tweak-tools
[08:45] <lambertu> sudo apt-get unity-tweak-tools
[08:47] <gdahboy> i have installed ubuntu on my macbookpro 11,3 version but i have probelem in battery , fans controling and screen brightness
[08:47] <lenswipee> lambertu, thanks. its fixed.
[08:48] <lenswipee> next problem, why are files in folder desktop do not actually appear on desktop?
[08:49] <MannyLNJ> Hello. I have a problem. I was running Ubuntu on a laptop and because the HDD was failing I decided to make it into a virtual system. I pulled the HDD and using DDRESCUE I made an image. When I try to load the image into VirtualBox it fails with the message /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root has a file system with errors. it dumps me to a (initramfs) prompt and I have no idea what to do next
[08:52] <lambertu> Cuz of the permissions, they do not appear in desktop folders
[08:53] <lambertu> MannyLNJ: You should google exact error message, and i am sure you will find you answer, i am to busy to google it for you atm, sorry
[08:53] <lenswipee> lambertu, doesn't make sense. If i logged in an account i should have permission to see whats in my desktop
[08:55] <lambertu> lenswipee: i assume, you are using some kind of editor, that has different permissions then you do, if you would sudo chmod -R 755 /Desktop/folder-you-want-to-write, it would be fixed
[08:56] <tak3d0wn> Hello all
[08:57] <lenswipee> lambertu, ill check.
[08:59] <MannyLNJ> lambertu, Google did find me an answer. Trying it now
[08:59] <lambertu> MannyLNJ: excellent
[09:00] <Xlopez69> Весм привет
[09:00] <lambertu> No Russky, blyat
[09:00] <Xlopez69> ))))
[09:00] <Xlopez69> okai
[09:00] <lambertu> :)
[09:01] <Xlopez69> i will try
[09:04] <Xlopez69> kak nastroenie ?
[09:05] <lambertu> Friday, so it is good, ty kak?
[09:05] <lenswipee> lambertu, why you say im using an editor?
[09:05] <Xlopez69> neploho
[09:05] <lambertu> lenswipee: i assumed, you are, since i ran into this problem not so long ago
[09:05] <Xlopez69> vot osvaivu linux
[09:06] <lenswipee> lambertu, im using dolphin file manager
[09:06] <lambertu> maladec
[09:06] <lenswipee> lambertu, files in $home/desktop do not appear on desktop UI
[09:06] <Xlopez69> posovetui vizualny skaner seti
[09:07] <ducasse> !ru | Xlopez69
[09:07] <lenswipee> lambertu, i check .config and it is set correctly for $home/desktop
[09:07] <lambertu> dlia cevo?
[09:08] <lambertu> lenswipee: give me more information on what you are doing
[09:08] <lenswipee> lambertu, i want files in $home/desktop to appear on desktop UI.
[09:09] <lenswipee> lambertu, I expected that to be default behaviour.
[09:09] <xJeremyCx> hey guys
[09:09] <lambertu> lenswipee: so you are unable to create files in your desktop even by default?
[09:09] <xJeremyCx> I try to untick a PPA in "Software & Updates" but it doesn't work
[09:10] <xJeremyCx> does anyone know the command-line alternative to this?
[09:10] <vagrant__> fds
[09:11] <lenswipee> lambertu, for example a file in $home/desktop/test.txt is not visible in desktop UI
[09:12] <lambertu> lenswipee, 16.04?
[09:12] <lenswipee> lambertu, 14.04
[09:12] <lenswipee> lambertu, 14.04 LTS
[09:13] <lambertu> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:whatever/ppa
[09:13] <lambertu> and then sudo apt-get update
[09:13] <ducasse> lenswipee: i don't think unity does display of files on the desktop
[09:14] <lambertu> on 16.04 it does, not sure about 14.04
[09:14] <ducasse> ok
[09:14] <xJeremyCx> nautilus does
[09:14] <G66K> hello everyone
[09:15] <lenswipee> ducasse, how bizzare
[09:15] <G66K> im just trying to make sure if this cron timer will execute every 24h daily 0 23 * * *
[09:15] <lenswipee> is there 16.04 LTS?
[09:15] <lambertu> it will if you will set it up
[09:15] <lambertu> lenswipee, yes
[09:16] <G66K> lambertu, thanks
[09:16] <max12345> hey, the archive server that's selected by apt-get is timing out on ping. What can I do?
[09:17] <lambertu> max, we need more info
[09:17] <lambertu> lenswipee, there is alot of complains about 14.04 desktop icons, you should check your video drivers
[09:18] <lambertu> lenswipee, and there is massive amount of info on goodle, use it ;)
[09:18] <lenswipee> what is a good update manager to get 16.04 LTS? im finding moun software manager not specific for LTS download
[09:19] <lambertu> sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:19] <lambertu> easy as that
[09:19] <lenswipee> Im new to the linux world but surprised that Ubuntu can't get simple things right and its been around for decades.
[09:20] <lambertu> it can, you just don't yet know how :)
[09:20] <lambertu> And why did you installed 14.04
[09:20] <lenswipee> lol windows developers know how
[09:20] <lenswipee> i installed 14.04 LTS a year ago
[09:20] <lambertu> windows are for kids :)
[09:22] <lenswipee> lambertu, dont think so bro
[09:22] <lambertu> You shouldn't expect linux to work the same as windows it is two different things
[09:23] <lambertu> You are probably using windows for decade or so, and you want to learn linux in 3 days
[09:23] <lenswipee> lambertu, never said that. and not going to have windows vs linux debate
[09:23] <lambertu> Awww
[09:23] <lambertu> dude, why it is most satisfying thing i can do today
[09:24] <lenswipee> but i will say files in $home/desktop should appear in desktop UI as default beaviour.
[09:24] <crazycoder> guys
[09:24] <faekjarz> Hi there! On 16.04 I tried this → http://askubuntu.com/a/399966 ← (top -bn2 -d 0.1) …but top complains about "top: bad delay interval '0.1'". The manpage states "Fractional  seconds are honored,", so what's the issue?
[09:24] <crazycoder> find /tmp -type f -mmin +60 this works
[09:24] <crazycoder> how can i only get the first level
[09:24] <crazycoder> ?
[09:24] <lambertu> well, according to my one minute research, you haven't installed you video drivers
[09:25] <lenswipee> lambertu, can you provide link bro?
[09:25] <daumie> Hello guys
[09:26] <daumie> I need help installing ubuntu on MacBook pro 2013 model
[09:26] <lenswipee> lambertu, no notification on my end saying video drivers not installed. but you could be right.
[09:26] <lambertu> lenswipee: http://askubuntu.com/questions/475509/no-desktop-icons-after-update-to-14-04
[09:27] <lambertu> daumie: you should first check if it is compatible, apple doesn't really like ubuntu
[09:28] <weboh> Why would you want Linux on a Mac when the MacOS is a version of FreeBSD?
[09:28] <lambertu> You don't want linux on mac
[09:29] <daumie> Because the MacBook is locked down lambertu
[09:29] <lambertu> Ohhhhh
[09:29] <ducasse> crazycoder: -maxdepth
[09:29] <weboh> no, I am so shocked. >:)
[09:29] <Wulf> What happened to de.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[09:29] <daumie> Can't access MacOS
[09:29] <lambertu> you mean it is stolen laptop?
[09:29] <lambertu> Cloud locked?
[09:30] <daumie> Bought it backstreet at a cheaper price lambertu
[09:30] <daumie> Yeah, I guess it's stolen
[09:30] <ikonia> daumie: this is offtopic here - please stop
[09:30] <daumie> Alright ikonia
[09:31] <weboh> it isn't the channels fault though
[09:31] <ikonia> thank you
[09:31] <crazycoder> ducasse, thanks
[09:31] <weboh> [03:25] <weboh> Linux is generally pretty straightforward, but making a shortcut or link on the desktop is too complicated. How can this be simplified?
[09:31] <weboh> [03:26] <weboh> How can this simplified for the user? I needed to be specific
[09:31] <weboh> [03:27] <weboh> The user being me who doesn't know how to do it.
[09:32] <weboh> better yet, I use Plasma
[09:32] <lambertu> To make applications icon, you need to find it in bin foler and just copy, i am using 16.04 and there is no problem with that
[09:33] <Guest46804> hello, i just installed ubuntu but i can't install ms fonts. I get this message "W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/andale32.exe' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)"
[09:33] <weboh> as a binary or icon? I like the eclipse icon but it isn't on the executable. forgive my MS windows jargon.
[09:33] <lambertu> try running wine by with sudo rights
[09:34] <lambertu> Well, eclipse has some problems on linux, you need to sudo it, so you need to google how to make icon with sudo rights ;D
[09:35] <ducasse> !google | lambertu
[09:36] <lambertu> ducasse, sorry, didn't know, wont happen again
[09:36] <max12345> lambertu: trying to use apt-get install for me :http://pasteall.org/128714
[09:36] <max12345> *looks like this
[09:36] <Seveas> lambertu: also, running exlipse with sudo is a Really Bad Idea...
[09:37] <weboh> using any executable app with sudo sounds rediculous
[09:38] <weboh> file:///home/deeno/Desktop/eclipse/icon.xpm
[09:38] <weboh> file:///home/deeno/Desktop/eclipse/notice.html
[09:38] <lambertu> WEll thats why i am using NetBeans
[09:39] <max12345> now it worked
[09:39] <weboh> aye!?
[09:39] <max12345> thanks anyway, was confused a while...
[09:39] <lambertu> max12345, the server was down when i checked
[09:39] <max12345> it's back now.
[09:39] <Seveas> weboh: did you install eclipse from source or with apt-get?
[09:42] <xangua> Laptop with 250 GB SSD, 8GB RAM should I create a swap partition?
[09:42] <lambertu> Yes
[09:44] <xangua> lambertu: wouldn't a swap file wear down the SSD?
[09:45] <faekjarz> for the record: i figured out why "top -bn2 -d0.1" complains about "bad delay interval". It's the locale! In de_DE, fractional seconds are noted with a comma, rather than a period, duh.
[09:45] <weboh> gzip tar? not apt-get
[09:46] <weboh> seveas
[09:47] <lambertu> xangua, if you are going to use this computer for development, you will feel lack of ram eventually, bu the time you wear your ssd off, 250 gb ssd will cost like 40 bucks, so there is no reason to not use it
[09:47] <lambertu> xangua, especially if it is samsung or intel high end ssd
[09:47] <xangua> 4 GB swap should be enough with 8 GB RAM?
[09:47] <weboh> <--- has a kingston
[09:48] <Seveas> weboh: well, remove that and install with apt-get.
[09:48] <lambertu> weboh, rip ssd in 3 years
[09:48] <weboh> I will buy a new bigger ssd then
[09:48] <lambertu> xangua, you can use whenever you will feel like you need it
[09:48] <lambertu> weboh, yeah they cost nothing now
[09:49] <xangua> This one came with patriot SSD
[09:49] <lambertu> G2g
[09:50] <weboh> since I am clueless, how do I use apt-get?
[09:50] <lambertu> sudo apt-get install something
[09:50] <lambertu> sudo apt-get purge something
[09:50] <lambertu> sudo apt-get update
[09:51] <Mathisen> weboh, man apt-get
[09:52] <xangua> lambertu: also not development, just for regular use
[09:53] <weboh> what do I need to do to use c++ with eclipse?
[09:53] <lambertu> xangua, you will be fine without
[09:53] <lambertu> weboh, libraries
[09:54] <ducasse> xangua: are you going to use hibernation?
[09:54] <xangua> ducasse: just suspend
[09:54] <jacky> jacky
[09:54] <weboh> um, how to i configure eclipse and what other packages are necessary?
[09:55] <navidr> does canonical officially support UbuntuGnome ? or ubuntu gnome is not official flavor
[09:55] <xangua> navidr: yes
[09:55] <ducasse> xangua: ok, then you won't need much swap. you can also lower swappiness, so it isn't used unless really necessary.
[09:55] <navidr> xangua: thank you , then I am going to install it !
[09:55] <xangua> ! Flavors
[09:56] <weboh> I might as well find a sword to stab myself with.
[09:56] <jacky> is there any option to install windows software without using play on linux?
[09:57] <xangua> Install a Windows virtual machine
[09:57] <weboh> !Kubuntu
[09:57] <jacky> ok thank you
[10:01] <frib> Hi. I can no longer tap on my touchpad nor see audio devices in settings panel.  Please help! Thanks
[10:01] <navidr> unity 8 is awesome ! so sad it is not ready yet !
[10:02] <weboh> I am having trouble disabling touch pad. The mouse is installed. It doesn't seem to take. already check disable with mouse.
[10:04] <burn> Hi, in Ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 4.4 I'm looking for the quota module, but apparently it doesn't seem to be in the kernel, right?
[10:04] <burn> Are there other solutions?
[10:05] <ducasse> burn: they are in the extra kernal package
[10:05] <Seveas> burn: 14.04 doesn't have a 4.4 kernel in the repos, so ask the person you got that kernel from...
[10:06] <ducasse> Seveas: it has the hwe stack from xenial, doesn't it?
[10:07] <burn> ducasse, ok, testing :-)
[10:10] <burn> ducasse, works, THX! :-)
[10:11] <ducasse> burn: yw
[10:28] <Ittiti> Hello, is it ok to ask for help for BioLinux here?
[10:30] <jatt> nope
[10:30] <Ittiti> Ok, sorry
[10:30] <jatt> you are welcome
[10:31] <gamester> jatt: no, you are welcome
[11:09] <Frozenlock> Hello folks. I'd like to update my opengl version. I've added Oibaf's drivers, but whatever I do I seem to be stuck on opengl 3.0. "OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 13.1.0-devel"
[11:10] <Frozenlock> Any ideas how I can change that?
[11:10] <Frozenlock> I'm on 16.04.
[11:20] <Frozenlock> I need to reboot; brb
[11:21] <MannyLNJ> New issue. I am able to boot VirtualBox and load up the image  of my laptop but I can't get out to the internet or my local network. Can I get some assistance please
[11:22] <Xlopez69> hi est' russko govoryaschie ?
[11:23] <Frozenlock> back
[11:23] <Xlopez69> ne mogy pofixit' #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[11:24] <halpme> my notebook died. Got a new one. THe HDD was saved, with all data in it. It includes a working os and several other files. I cannot stuck the HDD in the new notebook, because it is too high (SATAIII, same length and depth, but a bit higher, so it wont fit in the new one). How can I copy everything the SATAIII has into a , say, SSD?
[11:24] <Henoxek> Xlopez69: may be because you are banned on that channel? Or must be registered and authenticated via NickServ
[11:25] <Xlopez69> podskagi komandu kak registrirovatsa
[11:25] <Henoxek> /ns help
[11:26] <Frozenlock> halpme: dd might work. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[11:27] <Frozenlock> I've only used it with ubuntu SD cards image, but it worked.
[11:28] <halpme> will read that Frozenlock .
[11:28] <halpme> does any of you have any experience with clevo notebooks?
[11:29] <Xlopez69> is not a valid email address  ((((( WTF
[11:29] <ouroumov_> halpme, I'm using one now, what's your problem?
[11:31] <halpme> ouroumov_: the unit looks a bit... cheap. My new notebook is a clevo, 14 inches, plastic. I opened it to see the innards. On assembling it again, the left side wont shut correctly
[11:31] <halpme> I wonder if it was a good buy
[11:31] <halpme> old notebook was also a clevo. It lasted for 7 years
[11:32] <halpme> Frozenlock: I assume I just have to follow the link instructions chronologically... right?
[11:33] <Frozenlock> It depends... if you have both your drive accessible at the same time, you can just dd one into the other.
[11:33] <Frozenlock> See 'Clone Drive' at the bottom.
[11:34] <halpme> good, thanks
[11:34] <halpme> now I need to buy a ssd...
[11:34] <halpme> any brand you would recommend?
[11:34] <Xlopez69> some one help when i try register ---- is not a valid email address.
[11:35] <lambertu> Back
[11:35] <lambertu> halpme, you should consider buying samsung or intel
[11:35] <lambertu> halpme, they last the best
[11:35] <halpme> good, ill stick to samsung...
[11:35] <Xlopez69> but not EVO ))))))
[11:36] <lambertu> evo 850 is really good
[11:36] <lambertu> considered to be one of the best ssd
[11:36] <Xlopez69> but they losse speed with time
[11:36] <halpme> who should I trust on this one?
[11:36] <halpme> I was thinking of https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-PRO-Internal-MZ-V5P512BW/dp/B01639694M/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480073760&sr=1-9&keywords=samsung+ssd
[11:36] <lambertu> Oh, if you have budget for this one, it is a nice one
[11:37] <lambertu> I love intel my self, but for my clients i always recommend samsnung, cuz they last forever
[11:37] <Xlopez69> yep
[11:37] <lambertu> and the speed is one of the best in bussiness
[11:38] <halpme> good, good
[11:38] <halpme> I seldom get so many helpful answers
[11:39] <halpme> you guys made my day
[11:39] <halpme> thanks
[11:39] <lambertu> Enjoy
[11:39] <Xlopez69> lambertu  slyshai ya ne mogu na #ubuntu-ru pisat'   a pri registracii govorit not valid email
[11:40] <lambertu> Xlopez69, kakoi domain pocty
[11:40] <halpme> I think I need some more help: do samsung or intel make 5 mm-thick hybrid hard drives?
[11:40] <halpme> those would fit in the new notebook
[11:41] <lambertu> You mean M.2 ssd?
[11:42] <enyc> hrrm, how to debug  scanner applicaitons   all 'taking forever'  to search for scanners...?
[11:42] <halpme> no, SATA III HDD
[11:42] <enyc> sane-find-scanner  at CLI does exactly the right thing, no delay.....
[11:42] <enyc> but Simple-Scan  or  Gscan2pdf  just 'hang'
[11:42] <lambertu> halpme, in this standart ssd fit you
[11:42] <lambertu> you just need a mount
[11:43] <MannyLNJ> How do I find out where on my Ubuntu system the imap mail was stored?
[11:43] <lambertu> what system do you use, MannyLNJ
[11:43] <enyc> MannyLNJ: what did you mean,  a particular mail client?    a praticular IMAP server you have installed?
[11:43] <lambertu> :D
[11:43] <lambertu> i am first
[11:45] <Xlopez69> gmail
[11:45] <MannyLNJ> Enyc I was trying to run my own mail server. I had retreived mail from my ISP with MX records switched to my IP and was hosting locally. I then swicthed to a different mail host. Now I need to get to the mail that is stored on my Ubuntu system
[11:45] <Xlopez69> lambertu   gmail
[11:50] <enyc> MannyLNJ: oooooooooooh thats a black art =)
[11:50] <enyc> MannyLNJ: MX needs to point to A record, not directly to IP
[11:51] <MannyLNJ> Enyc yes the A record was to my public IP
[11:51] <enyc> MannyLNJ: but you haven't answeed what IMAP server you are running etc.
[11:51] <enyc> MannyLNJ: it depends on the MTA you installed, where/how it 'delivered' mail
[11:51] <MannyLNJ> enyc, and I forgot what MTA I used. :-(
[11:52] <enyc> MannyLNJ: did you haev it all working properly?  -- if so you can just use IMAP clien to retrieve the mail
[11:52] <enyc> MannyLNJ: ok, but what about any  IMAP server you nistalled to 'access' email ?
[11:52] <MannyLNJ> enyc, I *did* have it working properly but the imap client was on a Windows system and since my A record points to my current host I can't access the mail on my ubuntu server
[11:53] <bhuddah> enyc: usually /var/spool/imap or mail or something like that...(?)
[11:53] <enyc> MannyLNJ: so you can change the mail client on the windows system to use the IP address
[11:53] <enyc> MannyLNJ: add another 'imap account' on that system
[11:53] <enyc> MannyLNJ: connect it to the old server
[11:54] <enyc> bhuddah: or Maildir/ in homedir  or ... many choices
[11:54] <bhuddah> true.
[11:54] <enyc> MannyLNJ: if you connect the imap-client to both the new and old servers at same time, you can copy mails across that way
[11:54] <bhuddah> you're right. it's probably easier to use the remains of the mailsystem to get it via imap.
[11:54] <enyc> MannyLNJ: e.g. with thunderbird you can  "add new mail account"  and connect to IMAP server by IP-address temporarially
[11:56] <MannyLNJ> enyc, the problem with that is the ubuntu system was a laptop that had hw failure. I was able to pull the drive and dd it to another ubuntu system and makde a virtualbox image which boots but it has no newtwork access'
[12:01] <ubtuser131> Hello, I have an issue on 12.04 when I do apt-get update I get  http://pastebin.com/raw/EUAYEpX0  it seems that /var/lib/dpkg/status is corrupt, tried to swap it with status-old, but I guess both are corrupt, is there a way to rebuild this file?
[12:05] <water666> Hi, is HexChat safe to use?
[12:05] <ouroumov_> Yes
[12:05] <water666> out of the box? I haven't made any additional config amendments
[12:06] <water666> Also, could I install mate alongside unity?
[12:06] <water666> without breaking my system
[12:06] <ouroumov_> Sure
[12:06] <BlauskaerM> water666: Should be ok
[12:06] <ouroumov_> sudo apt install ubuntu-mate-desktop ubuntu-mate-core
[12:06] <water666> is it wise?
[12:06] <water666> Because not many people develop it, right?
[12:07] <hdc11> Hello!
[12:07] <hdc11> Anybody knows how to add a workspace on Budgie?
[12:07] <ouroumov_> water666, I think there's at least 6 active devs in the team
[12:08] <water666> Just worried about using open source software and the security risks associated with it I guess
[12:09] <v7> Hey !
[12:09] <v7> How can I spleet screen if they are connected by this http://www.hdcabling.co.za/images/VGA_to_2x_VGA_Cable_Splitter.jpg and I see this http://i.imgur.com/H8m75fT.jpg
[12:13] <water666> clear
[12:13] <water666> c
[12:13] <dorei> hello, is there a way to find out which arguments were passed to ./configure for a package distributed with/for ubuntu?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:16] <water333> OK, looks like I have broken my system haha
[12:16] <water333> I have install mate desktop environment but I want the unity desktop environment to be the login screen
[12:17] <handprint> good night bro
[12:17] <water333> how do I change the login screen back to the unity default
[12:18] <water333> I think I have found my solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75755/how-to-change-the-lightdm-theme-greeter
[12:18] <handprint> afaik login screen will be same as DE what you used
[12:21] <pandaadb> Hello :) Does anyone know - is there a guide on how to upgrade xorg to 1.19?
[12:21] <pandaadb> I am not excatly an expert, but i would like to try it and see if it solved my optimus related issues
[12:21] <pandaadb> I am using 16.04 so i would have to upgrade the kernel as well
[12:22] <pandaadb> and/or might there be a plan to upgrade that from ubuntu automatically in the near future?
[12:30] <Netek> hi all, I currently have 3 laptops all running Ubuntu 16.04.  Is it normal for the display to flicker certain elements on the screen when viewing media or other animated structures (js etc)?  This happens on all the laptops I have
[12:52] <sruli>  i need a good bash coder (in UK) to help me for a few days finish and test complex set of scripts, decent payment in return, pm me if interested, thanks
[12:55] <TomyWork> i updated my kubuntu 14.04 today and now my active directory/LDAP login is no longer working
[12:55] <TomyWork> part of the update was a bunch of samba packages and winbind
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !ping
[13:04] <mejnour> Hello, guys. I would like to know how do I restart my bluetooth service via terminal.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> mejnour, try sudo systemctl enable bluetooth, then sudo systemctl start bluetooth, in the terminal
[13:09] <huhub> hello
[13:09] <huhub> the first time...
[13:10] <huhub> bad dream hello
[13:11] <indistylo> Hello Folks, Is there any tool online or ubuntu based which can do video editing like this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rbRieFzbZXA , Kindly provide suggestions
[13:11] <huhub> nobody talks ?
[13:13] <TomyWork> samba 2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> -> 2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> breaks my ldap login (and, in fact, any login except passwordless ones)
[13:13] <SkylakeMX> Hai
[13:14] <huhub> hi had you a nie meal?
[13:15] <huhub> they come they go and say nothing
[13:16] <TomyWork> huhub that's normal, dont pay attention
[13:16] <huhub> helle tomywork you are the first
[13:16] <TomyWork> in fact, there are 1874 people here, *please* don't pay attention to every single one joining and leaving.
[13:16] <BluesKaj> gueriLLaPunK, this not a social chat, it's an ubuntu support chat
[13:17] <cfhowlett> huhub, this is the support channel.  ask your ubuntu questions here.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offotpic
[13:17] <BluesKaj> oops huhub^
[13:17] <huhub> helle bluesky
[13:18] <SkylakeMX> anyone need support?
[13:18] <huhub> to be supported by othrs
[13:19] <lambertu> Any one that has a clue about ubuntu mouse drivers?
[13:19] <SkylakeMX> lambertu: yes, ask
[13:20] <TomyWork> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1644428 this is the problem i have and this fixes it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:21] <TomyWork> it says "published 26 minutes ago" - why doesnt it show up in "apt-get update && apt-cache policy samba"?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> TomyWork, because mirrors take time to update
[13:21] <TomyWork> oh
[13:21] <TomyWork> thanks :)
[13:22] <TomyWork> anyway, great that it got fixed so quickly
[13:22] <lambertu> SkylakeMX, I have bought https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90665128/lenovo-y-gaming-precision-mouse-m800-gx30j07894.asp and sadly it doesnt have mouse drivers dedicated to ubuntu, but there is such features as high refresh rate and to high dpi, that i cannot change, so my question would be, should i use xorg, try to use native drivers using wine or you know any other solution
[13:22] <lambertu> ?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> sanest solution: replace that mouse with one that you have previously verified as ubuntu friendly
[13:23] <SkylakeMX> lambertu: I would indeed advise you to get a compatible mouse, or you could try to find / make an xorg config for it
[13:23] <lambertu> yeh, but my old one is going crazy for some reason, so about time to upgrade
[13:24] <lambertu> xorg it is
[13:25] <BluesKaj> lambertu, specialist input evices like your mouse rarely get complete linux driver support
[13:26] <BluesKaj> devices
[13:27] <rcj12> Hello, was hoping someone could share some light on this.. I have a ubuntu server of which I have take a clone (vmware) : The clone does not fully boot ( stuck at starting apache)
[13:27] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: what is the exact message where it's stuck at?
[13:28] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: maybe a screenshot would help
[13:28] <rcj12> starting apache
[13:28] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: could you start from the recovery kernel?
[13:29] <rcj12> unfortunately, the grub hide timeout is 0
[13:29] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: or boot from a live usb/cd, and check the apache logs
[13:29] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: it should also be possible to force show the grub menu when booting with SHIFT pressed
[13:30] <wtn4726> Kingsy: ping
[13:30] <rcj12> yes, when we press shift, it shows grub loading and its a blank screen.
[13:30] <lambertu> BluesKaj, the most interesting thing in this is whether xorg is safe for this mouse and computer, since i would be changing refresh rate, futhermore, hot to make a config that would persist after pluging mouse in and on
[13:31] <mejnour> Hello, guys. I would like to know how do I restart my bluetooth service via terminal.
[13:31] <lambertu> for example my razor mouse has community drivers that are better then dedicated
[13:31] <mejnour> Hello, guys. I would like to know how to restart my bluetooth service via terminal.****
[13:31] <rcj12> Apparently the apache status shows ok, but no other upstart jobs are run after it.
[13:31] <Mathisen> mejnour, pls dont spam :) tried /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart ?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> mejnour, try sudo systemctl enable bluetooth, then sudo systemctl start bluetooth, in the terminal
[13:32] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: is there anyway you could reach the logs?
[13:33] <mejnour> BluesKaj, tried that. Nothing happened. Mathisen: I'm sorry. I actually corrected the previously sentence. Trying what you suggested now.
[13:33] <rcj12> Which logs should I be refering to /var/log/boot ?
[13:33] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: yes or some kind of dmesg log if you can
[13:34] <rcj12> I can get into recovery mode using a ubuntu image, but /var is a different disk mounted on boot. So cant find anything in recovery mode :(
[13:35] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: just mount the disk you mount as /var, check your /etc/fstab to see what entry point is being used
[13:35] <pino56> ciao
[13:35] <mejnour> Mathisen, , BluesKaj
[13:35] <SkylakeMX> rcj12: but mount it to /mnt from the live cd this time
[13:36] <mejnour> Nothing happened
[13:36] <pino56> !list
[13:36] <pino56> !all
[13:36] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: could you post the contents of 'systemctl status bluetooth'  ?
[13:36] <rcj12> Okay, that is something I can check :) Thank you very much <SkylakeMX>
[13:37] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, is it OK if I paste it right here?
[13:37] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: use the ubuntu paste please
[13:37] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: there is an command for it, 1 sec
[13:37] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Pastebin
[13:38] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: sorry, wrong link, you should use this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/pastebinit.1.html
[13:38] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: when you want some log to be available on the ubuntu pastebin, use a pipe to pastebinit
[13:39] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, oh... I pasted here http://paste.ubuntu.com/23532298/
[13:40] <BluesKaj> mejnour, try dbus-launch bluez
[13:41] <mejnour> BluesKaj, bluez: no such file or directory
[13:41] <mejnour> BluesKaj, bluetooth: no such file or directory
[13:41] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: it's running.. what is your actual error?
[13:42] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: have you tried systemctl restart bluetoothd to restart it? (or bluetooth without d)
[13:43] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, when I open Ubuntu Settings and go to Bluetooth, it says Bluetooth disabled. It's marked "show status in menu bar" and it's not visible (not even the disabled dimmed icon)
[13:43] <mpo42vr_> Hello folks! I want to install Ubuntu 16.10 from a TFTP server. I've almost set up tftpd-hpa, copied the .iso to the server. What else do I need to do? When I boot the machine I get the error message "No default or UI"
[13:43] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[13:44] <feroulis> hello, i am new ubuntu user and i having trouble with  a usb tv tuner .. i can't install software and drivers .. i am using ubuntu 14.04
[13:44] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: have you tried a reboot? seems more like an driver confusion
[13:44] <raddy> I have configured the init script for hivemq
[13:44] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, its not listed the usual bluetooth devices. It's not even clicklable.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> mejnour, try dbus-launch bluetooth
[13:44] <raddy> I am running sudo systemctl start hivemq
[13:45] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, It's the 3rd time it happens... When I reboot It works, but, I would like to know how to solve it properly
[13:45] <mejnour> just a sec, BluesKaj
[13:45] <raddy> But still it is saying it could not binf to port 80 which is not being used by any other processes
[13:45] <raddy> Please help
[13:45] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Do you need help installing software? Or why can't you install software? Do you get an error message?
[13:45] <raddy> I am suspecting that it is being started as non root user
[13:45] <mejnour> BluesKaj, no such file or directory
[13:45] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: I think modprobe -r bluetoothdevicedriver, and again modprobing it would work
[13:46] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: what device do you use for your bluetooth/wifi?
[13:46] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  the usb tv tuner had only a disc for windows
[13:47] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: I see. Did you google for your USB TV tuner name to check if it is supported by Ubuntu?
[13:47] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: if possible, could you post the contents of rfkill list all
[13:47] <feroulis> i found someone with same problem at askubuntu but i don't understand how to do all that
[13:47] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, builtin bluetooth in a Dell Laptop. Nothing weird. And It was working some time ago. I didnt install nothing and I dont poke around my system. It simply updated and started  glitching. :/
[13:48] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, trying the modprobes first and starting that now.
[13:48] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: OK. This is a good moment to become more specific. Either link to that forum post or give me the name of your TV tuner
[13:49] <raddy> Please help
[13:49] <SkylakeMX> raddy: o no! what's the problem??
[13:50] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  omega dvb-t t900 tv tuner  | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2000109
[13:50] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: thanks
[13:50] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, both requests here http://paste.ubuntu.com/23532340/
[13:52] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Do you know how to open a terminal?
[13:52] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  yes
[13:52] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: your bluetooth driver is being used because it's integrated in your wifi card I guess, that should mean you need to modprobe the wifi driver first.. but there must be an easier solution
[13:52] <Delta706> I have installed nova-compute. Does this give me the ability to create a VM?
[13:53] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Is the device plugged in? Then try this in the terminal: dmesg | grep -i dvb
[13:53] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Do you get output?
[13:53] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: could you try 'rfkill block hci0' followed by 'rfkill unblock hci0' ?
[13:53] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  i have done that
[13:54] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  yes
[13:54] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, sure. Just a sec
[13:54] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  how can i use paste to show you?
[13:54] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: or use bluetooth instead if hci0 doesn't work (can't try commands because I'm using arch)
[13:54] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:56] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23532358/
[13:57] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23532363/
[13:57] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Thanks. Did you visit this link? http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ITE_IT9135
[13:58] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  yes, but i don't know what to do after this point
[13:58] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: OK. Download this firmware to your computer: http://palosaari.fi/linux/v4l-dvb/firmware/IT9135/
[13:59] <teejames> helo everybody
[13:59] <teejames> ^^
[13:59] <teejames> haha
[13:59] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: sorry I got to go, but that output seems fine.. but nothing changed for you?
[13:59] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, nothing at all. :/
[14:00] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: http://palosaari.fi/linux/v4l-dvb/firmware/IT9135/ITE_<IP_ADDRESS>/dvb-usb-it9135-02.fw
[14:00] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: :(
[14:00] <rasubuntu> hello
[14:00] <SkylakeMX> mejnour: good luck tho, see you around
[14:00] <mejnour> SkylakeMX, thank you very much. Although it didnt work, you helped a lot. Keep that up!
[14:00] <mejnour> And have a nice day, skylite_
[14:00] <mejnour> ops
[14:00] <feroulis> mejnour:  done
[14:01] <mejnour> feroulis, ?
[14:01] <feroulis> mejnour:  sorry fast enter it was for mpo42vr_
[14:01] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  done
[14:01] <mejnour> sure
[14:01] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Nice. Now move that file to the folder /lib/firmware
[14:02] <mejnour> \quit
[14:02] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: you can do that with the "mv" command
[14:02] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  can you tell me how to do that from terminal so i can learn?
[14:03] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  i downloaded at Download folder
[14:03] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: yes, sure. #Change to the download folder where the firmware is, so, maybe try "cd Downloads"
[14:03] <AlecTaylor> hi
[14:03] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Check if the firmware is there by typing "ls -lh"
[14:04] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  ok, the file is there.. so now i need to type mv  dvb-usb-it9135-02.fw /lib/firmware ?
[14:05] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: To write to a folder that is not under your /home you need to be root. So, it would be "sudo mv dvb-usb* /lib/firmware"
[14:06] <feroulis> ookkk
[14:06] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Instead of typing the whole name you can just start with "dvb" and then press the TAB key to complete the name
[14:07] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  ok done!!! (very helpfull with TAB key)
[14:07] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: I know :)
[14:08] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: Maybe replug the device and check if it's working
[14:08] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  at lib/firmware -rw-rw-r--  1 fero fero 5,7K Νοέ  25 16:00 dvb-usb-it9135-02.fw
[14:09] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: looks good
[14:09] <feroulis> mpo42vr_:  i need to search for software maybe?
[14:09] <eaguad> Hi there, newbie question here. I'm "installing" programs inside /opt folder such as eclipse and sublimetext. The problem is when I tried to execute Salesforce dataloader from there because Dataloader cannot write in this folder.  Should I change the permissions with chown $user:$user or what? I don't know if there is another place to put these files.
[14:10] <AlecTaylor> Should I place my `.sock`s in `/run` like everyone else, or should I create a new dir like some people, e.g. /softwarename/var/api/api.sock
[14:10] <mpo42vr_> feroulis: I really don't know. Maybe open the standard video player and see if it has your usb tuner available
[14:10] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: the current standard is /run,
[14:10] <Oksi_Br> I'm a girl, 24 years old, offer sex on Skype! 1:00 = $ 10, write in a personal! I am from Russia.
[14:20] <jatt> lmao
[14:21] <mpo42vr_> Is it still possible to install 16.10 from a tftp server? I'm missing a folder netboot in the image
[14:29] <LIquidSWordsman> Morning!
[14:31] <LIquidSWordsman> Guys, I'm relatively new to ubuntu, and have a command I can't figure out how to write. From a given directory, I would recursively search all immediate child directories looking for a folder created the day the command is being run, and pipe folder_name/file_name into a script
[14:33] <cfhowlett> LIquidSWordsman, I believe it's something like ls -r | grep filename
[14:36] <mpo42vr_> Nobody here can tell me if it's possible to install 16.10 from tftp server?
[14:36] <ikonia> it should be
[14:36] <ikonia> no different than any other release
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !server | mpo42vr_ for more details
[14:37] <mpo42vr_> cfhowlett: You're wrong
[14:37] <LIquidSWordsman> @cfhowlett, unfortunately that fails my test
[14:37] <mcphail> LIquidSWordsman: "find . -type d -newerct '1 day ago' -print" is a start
[14:38] <mcphail> LIquidSWordsman: and "find" can pass the results to your script directly
[14:39] <LIquidSWordsman> that just lists the child directories. Would this be easier to do in the bash/awk script?
[14:40] <mcphail> LIquidSWordsman: that is what you asked for...
[14:40] <glitchd> is there a way i can login through ssh, kill the login screen and have it send me to the desktop?
[14:41] <LIquidSWordsman> mcphail, you are totally correct, I meant find a file in any of the child directories that was created today
[14:41] <EriC^^> glitchd: yeh
[14:41] <mcphail> LIquidSWordsman: change "-type d" to "-type f"
[14:41] <Zen> LIquidSWordsman: change -type d to -type f
[14:42] <LIquidSWordsman> Success!
[14:42] <LIquidSWordsman> Thanks!
[14:42] <mcphail> :)
[14:42] <glitchd> EriC^^, care to share?
[14:43] <EriC^^> glitchd: type sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[14:43] <LIquidSWordsman> This command is basically a cronjob that will get called hourly, scanning a directory for new file placements, if it finds one it passes the path into a script which ssh's into my server, passes the path to a python script, which makes changes to some json updating a website
[14:43] <EriC^^> and add the lines [Seat:*] and autologin-user=<your user>
[14:43] <mpo42vr_> I need a different image. There's a seperate network installer
[14:44] <EriC^^> glitchd: then restart lightdm, it should take you to the desktop
[14:44] <LIquidSWordsman> Never have a podcast be hosted on a separate domain from its website
[14:44] <glitchd> EriC^^, umm, that file comes back as blank..
[14:44] <EriC^^> glitchd: yeah, it's not there always
[14:44] <mcphail> LIquidSWordsman: have a look at "incron" for that, which can trigger your script as soon as a file is created. Saves you having to poll
[14:44] <LIquidSWordsman> Shared hosting, can't install or run incron
[14:44] <glitchd> EriC^^, so open the file in nano then restart the service?
[14:45] <mcphail> LIquidSWordsman: shame
[14:45] <LIquidSWordsman> Yeah, came across it in my research, and its exactly what I want
[14:45] <glitchd> EriC^^, it just spit me onto the login screen again, where i was previously, not the desktop
[14:45] <LIquidSWordsman> but hey, cpu time way less valuable than mine
[14:45] <EriC^^> glitchd: yeah
[14:46] <EriC^^> glitchd: did you add the lines and save them?
[14:46] <EriC^^> [Seat:*]
[14:46] <EriC^^> autologin-user=<your user>
[14:46] <glitchd> EriC^^, i didnt notice that, since i was looking for your color lol
[14:47] <glitchd> EriC^^, i dont want it to auto log me in tho...
[14:47] <glitchd> EriC^^, because then anyone can turn on my comp and itll go straight in
[14:47] <koffeekbd> dhil: hi!
[14:48] <glitchd> EriC^^, thats not the solution im looking for, but thank you for the response
[14:52] <koffeekbd> ulrichard: hi!
[14:53] <koffeekbd> narindergupta: hi!
[14:55] <glitchd> EriC^^, any other possible ideas?
[15:01] <Kingsy> curious, after I modprobe my ethernet driver.. can I get ubuntu to autoconfigure the network connection so I can use apt-get ?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Kingsy, it should auto enable by default if using ethernet, wifi will take configuring or even installing a driver
[15:05] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: I don't think so.. Its a USB -> Ethernet adapter.
[15:05] <Kingsy> I have a .ko for it, so I can modprobe it
[15:05] <BluesKaj> well usb is a different story , then by all means modprobe
[15:06] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: different question.. if I do cp whatever.ko /lib/modules/<version>/kernel   then   depmod    then   modprobe whatever     then reboot why would my kernel not still have the sdriver loaded?
[15:07] <Guido1> How can I view RAW thumbnails in thuner / Xubuntu file manager?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Kingsy, what's the nic/ethernet card name?
[15:07] <zetheroo> might seem like a dumb question - but how do I convert a utf8 file to ascii ? Gedit hasn't for ascii ...
[15:08] <brainwash> Guido1: maybe install tumbler-plugins-extra
[15:11] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: Bus 002 Device 020: ID 0b95:1790 ASIX Electronics Corp. AX88179 Gigabit Ethernet
[15:11] <Guido1> brainwash: sudo apt-get install tumbler-plugins-extra?
[15:11] <brainwash> Guido1: yes
[15:12] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: been using ax88179_178a.ko <-- which worked for the mini installer
[15:12] <Kingsy> but now I have the system I cant get it working to install the wireless stuff
[15:14] <Guido1> brainwash: now I have to restart thuner, I gues. What was the command for it?
[15:14] <zetheroo> anyone?
[15:14] <bencc> is there a sendmail like client that can use oauth2 with gmail relay?
[15:14] <brainwash> Guido1: not sure if you have to do that. does it not work yet?
[15:15] <Guido1> not jet
[15:15] <brainwash> Guido1: thunar calls tumbler for thumbnail generation
[15:15] <brainwash> I would just relog then
[15:15] <Guido1> brainwash: how do I do that?
[15:17] <brainwash> Guido1: similar to how you shut down the system
[15:17] <brainwash> or run xfce4-session-logout
[15:17] <Guido1> brainwash: I would like to not restart / log off now.
[15:18] <brainwash> then try  killall thunar; killall Thunar; killall tumbler
[15:19] <ducasse> Kingsy: the module might not be registered for that device id, in which case it won't be loaded automatically
[15:20] <Guido1> brainwash: it can't find thunar, but it is the standard, isn't it?
[15:21] <Guido1> brainwash: can't find tumbler eiither
[15:21] <SatoshiRol> is there a config file somewhere, touch bad edge scrolling can be disables?
[15:21] <brainwash> Guido1: I assume that tumbler terminates itself
[15:21] <brainwash> Guido1: Thunar may be the daemon process
[15:22] <Guido1> brainwash: just saw that linux clossed the windows. let's see if it works now
[15:23] <Guido1> brainwash: yes, now it works, thanks :)
[15:23] <brainwash> Guido1: ah nice! glad that I could help :)
[15:23] <Kingsy> ducasse: what would be the way forward?
[15:24] <Guido1> Is there a way to see what additions or changes I have made to the new install? I want to remove pakages etc. which I don't need anymore.
[15:27] <genesis_> Hi! I'm pretty much out of ideas. I can't get lightdm to start after boot since I updated from LTS to 16.10 because gpu-manager seems to fail gpu-manager.log is here: http://pastebin.com/FsnWEivt startx works fine though. any hints?
[15:27] <brainwash> Guido1: you can find logs in /var/log/
[15:27] <brainwash> Guido1: there is /var/log/apt/history.log
[15:29] <Kingsy> Got another strange issue too.. SOEMTIMES when I turn on m,y laptop I just get a black screren after the BIOS popup. However from a cold boot it works great.. how would I go about debugging that?
[15:29] <Guido1> brainwash: found the logs. Now I have to find out which pakages I can remove
[15:30] <rozruch> Hi all. Having problems with Ubuntu 16.4. Regular freezes often after sleep. Have rolled back kernel, changed c-state configuration after a forum post but I'm out of my depth tbh.
[15:31] <brainwash> rozruch: no hints in the logs?
[15:31] <rozruch> brainwash: for me not. I glance at them but I'm relatively new to this and there's nothing that jumps out as an obvious flaw. I could absolutely be missing something.
[15:32] <brainwash> did it work fine in the beginning?
[15:32] <rozruch> lots of eg. "Broke affinity for irq" in kern.log
[15:32] <EriC^^> glitchd: you could make a script that does that for you
[15:33] <Guido1> brainwash: will I find there things like tumbler-plugins-extra as well?
[15:33] <EriC^^> glitchd: and while the pc starts have a service file that removes the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file so it doesn't autologin
[15:33] <lbracher> Hi there! I'm trying to get data over Bluetooth but I'm getting the message "Bluetooth: TIOCGSERIAL is not supported" on syslog. How can I solve it? Thanks in advance!
[15:33] <brainwash> rozruch: this looks like something that should be googled
[15:34] <brainwash> Guido1: yes
[15:34] <rozruch> brainwash: will do. I have struggled to pick the significant from the insignificant for now.
[15:35] <Guido1> brainwash: great. will look into all the changes later and hope I see why I installed things and what I could remove.
[15:35] <glitchd> EriC^^, not sure how to do that..?
[15:36] <EriC^^> glitchd: try adding a crontab @reboot sed -i 's/autologin-user=<your user>/autologin-user=/' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[15:36] <EriC^^> glitchd: type sudo crontab -e first
[15:37] <glitchd> EriC^^, it says no crontab for root - using an empty one
[15:37] <EriC^^> glitchd: and make a script that has "#!/bin/bash sed -i 's/autologin-user=/autologin-user=<your user>/' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf && service lightdm restart
[15:37] <EriC^^> glitchd: no problem
[15:37] <SatoshiRol> hey, guys. I'm looking for a way too disable touchpad side scroling
[15:38] <ducasse> Kingsy: to get it loaded at boot you can just add it to /etc/modules. you should probably also regenerate the initramfs.
[15:38] <Kingsy> oh
[15:38] <Kingsy> ducasse: I added it to /lib/modules/<version>/kernel/
[15:39] <Kingsy> would that be wrong?
[15:39] <glitchd> EriC^^, is it ok to pm you?
[15:39] <Kingsy> also, how do you regenerate the initramfs? depmod?
[15:39] <EriC^^> glitchd: ok
[15:39] <glitchd> thx
[15:39] <ducasse> Kingsy: that's where you put the module itself, correct, just put the module name in /etc/modules
[15:41] <Kingsy> ducasse: done.. rebooting
[15:41] <Kingsy> argh.. this black screen thing is doing my head in
[15:42] <Kingsy> tbh if that continues I might have to totally bin this off.. its too annoying.. hehe
[15:43] <BluesKaj>  Kingsy dunno if this helps http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man4/axge.4freebsd.html
[15:44] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: hrm shouldnt need it.. the driver I have here worked a treat during the installation
[15:45] <Kingsy> also I don't want to have to recompile the kernel really.. never done that before..
[15:45] <Kingsy> :P
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Kingsy, guess i missed something , I thought the driver didn't work at all
[15:48] <genesis_> Hi! I'm pretty much out of ideas. I can't get lightdm to start after boot since I updated from LTS to 16.10 because gpu-manager seems to fail gpu-manager.log is here: http://pastebin.com/FsnWEivt ystemctl status gpu-manager.service is here: http://pastebin.com/YEvZTKNv  startx works fine though. any hints?
[15:53] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: argh, still no joy. no connection
[15:55] <BluesKaj> which connection, Kingsy?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> wifi or ethernet?
[15:55] <enw3652> Kingsy: hey
[15:55] <Kingsy> ethernet adapter
[15:55] <ducasse> Kingsy: did the module load?
[15:55] <Kingsy> ducasse: not that I can see
[15:56] <enw3652> Kingsy: i found a solution for your ax driver thing
[15:56] <Kingsy> enw3652: was it you I was talking to yesterday>?
[15:56] <enw3652> Kingsy: yes
[15:56] <enw3652> when i returned, you were still in the channel but not reacting
[15:57] <Kingsy> enw3652: sorry I saw you messages
[15:57] <Kingsy> I managed to get the installer working.. totally amazing work on that!
[15:58] <Kingsy> enw3652: I am not in a situation where I have the OS installed but I cant use the wifi or ethernet adapter on the actual OS
[15:58] <enw3652> Kingsy: i am sitting i a train right now and internet connection is very flaky
[15:58] <Kingsy> ah
[15:58] <BluesKaj> enw3652, well lets have your solution , I'm curious
[15:58] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: I beleive he is talking about a solution to my ubuntu mini installer issue. I needed to load the driver into the kernel on the installer.
[16:00] <Kingsy> enw3652: so at the moment all of that was in vein. As the OS kernel doesnt have the driver either.. and the network is totally unconfigured... what is the usual process for this on ubuntu mini? is there a configuring tool ?
[16:00] <enw3652> BluesKaj: in short: find out which .deb file contains the module matching the kernel version of the installer. extract module and copy it to a separate usb stick. use unmodified mini installer and mount the separate stick to copy the missing module into the /lib/modules/<KVER> hierachy. then depmod and modprobe.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Kingsy, ok, my mistake
[16:00] <Kingsy> heh one problem leads to another.
[16:01] <Kingsy> enw3652: yeah thats all done. I am actually on the installed OS now
[16:01] <ducasse> Kingsy: first check if the module is loaded, what is it called?
[16:01] <Kingsy> ducasse: ax88179_178a
[16:01] <Kingsy> according to lsmod it isnt
[16:01] <ducasse> Kingsy: ok, then load it
[16:01] <Kingsy> modprobe?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> a lot of mucking about for an etherner nic when you can probly pick one up for 10-20 bucks and have the module loaded by default at firsd boot or even during th einstall
[16:02] <ducasse> Kingsy: sure
[16:02] <Sonderblade> i wonder if anyone else has noticed that 16.04 is significantly faster than 15.10?
[16:02] <POVaddct> BluesKaj: in short: find out which .deb file contains the module matching the kernel version of the installer. extract module and copy it to a separate usb stick. use unmodified mini installer and mount the separate stick to copy the missing module into the /lib/modules/<KVER> hierachy. then depmod and modprobe.
[16:02] <Sonderblade> would be interesting to know what caused the performance increase
[16:02] <Kingsy> ducasse: ugh.. it says could not insert Exec format error
[16:03] <POVaddct> free wifi on german ICE train sucks, at least if you want to keep a stable tcp connection.
[16:03] <ducasse> Kingsy: try insmod and the full path
[16:04] <POVaddct> Kingsy: that sounds like module/kernel version mismatch
[16:04] <Kingsy> ducasse: hrm, no such file or directory.
[16:05] <Kingsy> Icopied it into /lib/modules/kern_ver/kernel
[16:05] <Kingsy> POVaddct: could be...
[16:07] <Kingsy> Alright, back to square one.. given the situation, I have an OS with a ethernet adapter which I cant use. So it has no internet. How do you go about installer said driver on that OS? I guess you manually copy over the .ko file? and if so how do I find the right one?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Kingsy, my advice is to get a proper well known and supported ethernet nic card instead of fooling around with little known USB ethernet device
[16:07] <POVaddct> Kingsy: wait... the USB ethernet device worked in the installer but not in the installed system?
[16:08] <Kingsy> BluesKaj: isnt ax88179_178a a kernel signed driver anyway? we are not fooling around with something crap if the drvier for it is compiled against the kernel
[16:08] <Kingsy> its just not included.
[16:08] <Kingsy> POVaddct: it only worked in the installer because I manually loaded ax88179_178a.ko into the kernel before I installed.
[16:08] <rozruch> struggling to find anything relating to the problem I'm having with the system freezing following sleep that doesn't relate to Nvidia graphics cards. I have Intel. Has anyone come across anything similar with Ubuntu 16.4?
[16:09] <POVaddct> Kingsy: verify package linux-image-extra-KVER is installed
[16:09] <Kingsy> after whcih the installer worked.. I installed the system and now I am here.. kinda stuck
[16:09] <Kingsy> POVaddct: what is the command to verify that?
[16:09] <POVaddct> Kingsy: dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[16:09] <Kingsy> thanks 2 seconds
[16:09] <TikityTik> How can I get the source code for top? Do I need to manually grab it from somewhere or use apt-get?
[16:10] <POVaddct> Kingsy: if the output doesn't include linux-image-extra-... you don't have the full module tree installed
[16:10] <Kingsy> it does
[16:11] <POVaddct> Kingsy: what is the output of /sbin/modinfo ax88179_178a
[16:11] <Kingsy> linux-image-4.4.0-47-generic, linux-image-extra-4.4.0-47-generic, linux-image-generic
[16:11] <Kingsy> POVaddct: that gives me the isb device description etc
[16:11] <Kingsy> so that looks really good
[16:12] <Kingsy> usb*
[16:12] <Kingsy> so does that mean the device should be working ok.. its just the network configuration ?
[16:12] <POVaddct> Kingsy: which module file path does it report?
[16:13] <Kingsy> POVaddct: /lib/modules/4.4.0-47-generic/kernel/ax88179_178a.ko
[16:14] <POVaddct> Kingsy: sorry, i missed your answer
[16:14] <Kingsy> POVaddct: /lib/modules/4.4.0-47-generic/kernel/ax88179_178a.ko
[16:15] <Kingsy> which looks good to me
[16:15] <POVaddct> Kingsy: f*cking unstable internet here..
[16:15] <Kingsy> heh
[16:16] <POVaddct> Kingsy: please move that module away to, say, /root: mv /lib/modules/4.4.0-47-generic/kernel/ax88179_178a.ko /root/
[16:16] <Kingsy> hrm ok....
[16:16] <Kingsy> why?
[16:16] <POVaddct> Kingsy: then do depmod and run modinfo ax88179_178a again
[16:16] <Kingsy> doing it now.. just curious
[16:16] <Kingsy> ok
[16:17] <POVaddct> Kingsy: that module most likely was for a different kernel version
[16:17] <Kingsy> oh
[16:17] <Kingsy> that is different now
[16:17] <Kingsy> oh ok
[16:17] <Kingsy> I think that was my fault
[16:17] <POVaddct> Kingsy: please give full path output of modinfo
[16:18] <Kingsy> POVaddct: /lib/modules/4.4.0-47-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb/ax88179_178a.ko
[16:18] <POVaddct> okay, now   modprobe ax88179_178a
[16:18] <Kingsy> alright done
[16:18] <POVaddct> Kingsy: lsmod | grep ax88179_178a
[16:19] <TikityTik> How can I get the source code for top? Do I need to manually grab it from somewhere or use apt-get?
[16:19] <Kingsy> POVaddct: bah! its loaded
[16:19] <Kingsy> POVaddct: nice one man!
[16:19] <POVaddct> Kingsy: okay,  ip link show
[16:20] <Kingsy> alright, so it looks like that was my fault...
[16:20] <ducasse> TikityTik: 'apt-get source packagename'
[16:20] <POVaddct> Kingsy: is there an interface with linktype ether?
[16:20] <POVaddct> Kingsy: i guess it was loaded all the time
[16:20] <Kingsy> POVaddct: yes there is
[16:20] <TikityTik> ducasse: what package is top apart of?
[16:21] <POVaddct> Kingsy: then its a matter of interface configuration. static or dhcp?
[16:21] <ducasse> TikityTik: procps
[16:22] <Kingsy> POVaddct: dhcp will be fine
[16:22] <Kingsy> I guess thats default?
[16:22] <POVaddct> Kingsy: yes
[16:22] <Kingsy> ok then.. so if I plug this in I should be good to go.....
[16:22] <TikityTik> ducasse: I'm getting "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"
[16:22] <POVaddct> Kingsy: ip addr show ; ip route show
[16:23] <ducasse> TikityTik: means exactly what it says, the source repos are not enabled. you can do that in the software and updates thingy.
[16:23] <TikityTik> ducasse: Thanks
[16:25] <TikityTik> ducasse: lastly, where will it install the source files?
[16:25] <ducasse> TikityTik: current dir.
[16:25] <TikityTik> ducasse: I seem to be unable to find a source package for procps
[16:26] <ducasse> TikityTik: did you update the package list?
[16:26] <TikityTik> ducasse: yes
[16:26] <TikityTik> sudo apt-get update
[16:27] <Kingsy> POVaddct: hrm, they are blank, no inet ips or anuything...
[16:28] <POVaddct> Kingsy: pidof dhclient
[16:28] <Kingsy> is there an autoconfigure option after you connect the wire?
[16:28] <Kingsy> POVaddct: returns nothing
[16:28] <POVaddct> Kingsy: there is no dhcp client running
[16:28] <POVaddct> Kingsy: maybe this is some systemd foo
[16:29] <POVaddct> Kingsy: for now just try (as root): dhclient NAME_OF_INTERFACE
[16:29] <POVaddct> Kingsy: i guess systemd also renamed it from eth0 to something funny
[16:29] <POVaddct> did i mention i hate systemd?
[16:29] <lbracher> What is that TIOCGSERIAL on Bluetooth anyway?
[16:30] <bass_> hi, is there anyone　recording with Mint 18 here?
[16:31] <bass_> sorry.. i mean, recording audio
[16:31] <roomerre> hello
[16:31] <roomerre> when u install sagemath ,can u open a gui? i cant open it?
[16:31] <Kingsy> POVaddct: strange that dhclient wouldnt be running... I guess I need to make a service for it?
[16:31] <roomerre> i installed it
[16:31] <POVaddct> Kingsy: yeah, but how to do this with systemd i don't know
[16:32] <ducasse> !mint | bass_
[16:32] <TikityTik> Anyone know why I am unable to find a source package for procps?
[16:32] <POVaddct> Kingsy: but first try dhclient manually
[16:32] <ducasse> Kingsy: no, you just configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces and it will start it at boot
[16:32] <POVaddct> Kingsy: what's the name of the network interface?
[16:33] <user158921> using google chrome on ubuntu 16.04, layered div cause screen flicker. not sure if a chrome bug or intel display driver bug.
[16:33] <Kingsy> POVaddct: enp0s20u8
[16:33] <Kingsy> I guess thats what the service is called.. or some version of that
[16:34] <POVaddct> Kingsy: yeah, that looks like systemd naming scheme
[16:34] <Kingsy> ducasse: isnt /etc/network/interfaces dhcp by default...
[16:34] <POVaddct> Kingsy: you can still do that, for now please try: dhclient enp0s20u8
[16:34] <ducasse> Kingsy: i doubt there will be an entry for your interface there yet
[16:35] <RxMcDonald> Hello, anyone has some tips on how to increase the amount of high performance computational tensor-fluid dynamics?
[16:37] <RxMcDonald> I need to produce extremely high amounts (brutal) of computational outputs before the low level subsystem can start crunching the results for the collider
[16:39] <Kingsy> POVaddct: worked a treat
[16:39] <Kingsy> man, so it was probably my fault before loading in the wrong driver.
[16:39] <akik> RxMcDonald: you need to explain your problem much more simply
[16:39] <TikityTik> I am unable to do "apt-get source procps", I am getting: "E: Unable to find a source package for procps"
[16:40] <TikityTik> I am trying to get the source code of top.
[16:40] <POVaddct> Kingsy: yeah, the hack with the additional module was only necessary for the installer, not the installed system
[16:40] <RxMcDonald> akik: upper bound system is running at around 600 picoflops
[16:41] <E-monk> Good afternoon fellas, is there anyone that has some knowldge refering steam install ?
[16:41] <POVaddct> Kingsy: now go to /etc/network/interfaces and look for an entry like: # The primary network interface
[16:42] <akik> RxMcDonald: please stop the trolling and let's concentrate how ubuntu can help you
[16:42] <RxMcDonald> i meant petaflops lmao
[16:42] <POVaddct> Kingsy: the two lines below must read: allow-hotplug enp0s20u8
[16:42] <POVaddct> Kingsy: and: iface enp0s20u8 inet dhcp
[16:43] <POVaddct> Kingsy: i hope the systemd foo will interpret the file just like in good old sysv init times :)
[16:44] <Kingsy> oh alright
[16:44] <Kingsy> I'll give that a blast
[16:44] <Kingsy> this is great info man!!!
[16:44] <Kingsy> Really appreciate the help
[16:44] <POVaddct> you're welcome
[16:45] <TikityTik> What web page can I use to search for "procps" in ubuntu's source code repo?
[16:46] <E-monk> Hello there is there anyone know why theres no Steam anymore on USS?
[16:46] <E-monk> im new just learning ubuntu now ^
[16:50] <Kingsy> POVaddct: curious, what do you think about this one.. when I cold boot the laptop all is good... if I reboot the laptop I get a black screen after the BIOS... you seen that before?
[16:50] <Kingsy> Its not a hardware issue as it never happened last week when I had fedora installed on it
[16:50] <Kingsy> of course you have helped me enough today so if you cant be arsed to type i understand.. haha
[16:52] <POVaddct_> Kingsy: sorry, no idea
[16:53] <TikityTik> E-monk: What's USS?
[16:53] <E-monk> ubuutu software shop
[16:53] <ioria> Kingsy, on what ubuntu and with what card ?
[16:54] <TikityTik> E-monk: It's in mine.
[16:54] <TikityTik> E-monk: You might need to go into Software & Updates, then Other Software, then allow Canonical Partners.
[16:55] <POVaddct_> alright, i'm off. mobile internet on a train is just too unstable.
[16:57] <TikityTik> I'm still unable to get apt-get source procps, I need to get the source code of top.
[16:57] <Kingsy> ioria: ubuntu minimal 16.04, what do you mean by what card?
[16:57] <ioria> TikityTik, did you enable main source ?
[16:58] <ioria> Kingsy,  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[16:58] <RxMcDonald> akik: how many petaflops u can compute before u break ur computing devices?
[16:59] <TikityTik> ioria: I enabled the source for the wrong thing, I enabled it for Other Partners
[16:59] <TikityTik> ducasse: Fixed the problem.
[16:59] <ioria> TikityTik, no good :þ
[17:00] <ioria> Kingsy,  it will tell you the card and the module loaded
[17:03] <Kingsy> ioria: kernel driver in use i915
[17:03] <Kingsy> Lenono Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics
[17:04] <ioria> Kingsy,  no desktop env installed ?
[17:04] <Kingsy> not yet :)
[17:05] <Kingsy> totally brand new minimal install
[17:05] <ioria> Kingsy,  what happens when you boot it ?
[17:05] <Kingsy> havent installed a single package yet.
[17:05] <ioria> Kingsy,  what happens when you boot it ?
[17:06] <helpmeh> Hi
[17:07] <helpmeh> I deleted my ubuntu installations through a live CD using gparted and now grub is gone, and when I try to reinstall the only option it gives me is "erase disk and install ubuntu", but I want to dual boot, what do I do?
[17:07] <Eber> Hey guys. I'm connected to my computer (Ubuntu 16.04) over VNC and locked on the Shut Down screen. I can't use the mouse and can't find a shortcut that would make the screen go away. Any tips? Thanks!
[17:08] <helpmeh> Last time I manually partitioned the disks and deleted currently existing ubuntu installation and installed on another disk it completely messed up grub
[17:08] <Kingsy> from cold it works great. shows my grub, then displays the partition decrypt screen and asks for my password then iot boots..
[17:08] <Kingsy> after restart it shows the BIOS.. then a black screen
[17:08] <ioria> Kingsy,  weird
[17:09] <ioria> helpmeh, can you access windows ?
[17:10] <helpmeh> ioria: Not sure, just deleted all linux containing partitions using live linux
[17:10] <leela> Leela
[17:10] <helpmeh> Which I'm assuming deleted grub
[17:10] <helpmeh> So I would need a recovery CD
[17:10] <helpmeh> But I haven't restarted to check
[17:11] <ioria> helpmeh, if you have a win cd, you can run Repair
[17:11] <helpmeh> I don't, I don't have a CD drive either
[17:11] <ioria> Kingsy,  never head of that issue,  it's an old intel card ?
[17:12] <Kingsy> ioria: hrm not sure.
[17:12] <Kingsy> ioria: I mean this didnt happen when I had fedora on it
[17:13] <ioria> Kingsy,  apt-get -s install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:16] <Kingsy> alright
[17:16] <ioria> Kingsy,  any errors ?
[17:17] <xangua> ! Lubuntu
[17:17] <Kingsy> ioria: no errors.. all installed.
[17:18] <Kingsy> I guess reboot and hope? heheh
[17:18] <ioria> Kingsy,  nope, it's a simulation :þ
[17:18] <Kingsy> oh I omitted the -s
[17:18] <Kingsy> typed it by hand
[17:18] <Kingsy> damn
[17:18] <Kingsy> :P
[17:18] <ioria> Kingsy, .....
[17:18] <ioria> Kingsy,  so you installed it ?
[17:19] <Kingsy> I did
[17:19] <Kingsy> damn.
[17:19] <ioria> Kingsy,  reboot
[17:19] <Kingsy> its going now
[17:19] <Kingsy> same thing.. blank screen
[17:20] <Kingsy> ioria: It doesnt even get to showing me grub
[17:20] <ioria> Kingsy,  if you are not dual-boot it won'tshow
[17:21] <ioria> Kingsy,  unless you edit /etc/default/grub
[17:21] <Kingsy> well it shows when I cold boot
[17:21] <ioria> Kingsy,  usually it does not
[17:22] <Kingsy> ah ok, so perhaps its not defaulting to the right partition
[17:22] <ioria> Kingsy,  cat /etc/default/grub
[17:22] <Kingsy> looking at it now.. unfortunately I cant copy and paste.
[17:22] <Kingsy> anything specific I should be looking for?
[17:23] <ioria> Kingsy,  why not
[17:23] <ioria> Kingsy,  cat /etc/default/grub |nc termbin.com 9999
[17:23] <Kingsy> moment.
[17:25] <Eber> Ubuntu 16.04 here - I don't have access to the mouse and I'm locked on the Shut Down modal screen. Is there a way to make it go away with the keyboard?
[17:26] <Eber> I can't even choose an option. Nothing really works...
[17:27] <Kingsy> ioria: http://termbin.com/cj69g
[17:28] <ioria> Kingsy,  replace quiet splash with text and run sudo update-grub
[17:29] <Kingsy> reboot?
[17:29] <ioria> Kingsy,  yes, you get grub screen cause an error
[17:29] <Kingsy> that'll be swell
[17:30] <Kingsy> ah HA.. please unlock disk sdb5_crypt
[17:31] <ioria> Kingsy,  unlock
[17:31] <Kingsy> hrm
[17:31] <Kingsy> then its asking me to unlock sdb3
[17:32] <Kingsy> ioria: bloody hell... sdb5 is swap.
[17:32] <ioria> Kingsy,  ?
[17:32] <Kingsy> so my /home and swap space are both encrypted partitions
[17:33] <Kingsy> ioria: is it normal to encrypt the swap partition ?
[17:33] <ioria> Kingsy,  yes... but you unlock only root iirc
[17:33] <Kingsy> I did it because the installer was complaining that it was insecure to have an unencrypted swap
[17:33] <Kingsy> ioria: yeah thats what I have done, / partition unencrypted.. swap and /home are encrypted.
[17:34] <ioria> Kingsy,  yes.... but noting to do with video issue, i guess
[17:34] <eraxm0> hi at all!
[17:34] <Kingsy> ioria: so why would it be asking me to unlock swap on restart and not from cold boot?
[17:34] <eraxm0> anyone can help me with my wifi connection problem?
[17:34] <Kingsy> ioria: well that was the reason for the black screen, since we changed grub it boots fine from restart now
[17:35] <ioria> Kingsy,  shut it down correctly and restart
[17:35] <Kingsy> the reason was grub was waiting for the swap partition to be unlcoked.
[17:35] <ikonia> grub will not wait for swap
[17:35] <Kingsy> ioria: I was using "sudo reboot"
[17:35] <ikonia> grub does not know about swap
[17:35] <Kingsy> ah, it appears when it tries to the mount the root partition
[17:35] <ioria> Kingsy,  sudo halt -p
[17:36] <ioria> Kingsy,  then restart the machine
[17:36] <Disaster_Area> yo anyone know how to reset the trial time on stuff that is only free for a limited trial
[17:36] <Disaster_Area> is there a trick to it when
[17:36] <Disaster_Area> uninstalling and reinstalling doesn't work
[17:36] <Kingsy> ioria: umm sudo halt -p turns the machine off no?
[17:36] <ioria> Kingsy,  yep
[17:36] <ikonia> Disaster_Area: pay for the item
[17:37] <Kingsy> so are you saying you cannot use sudo reboot when you have an encrypted swap space?
[17:37] <ikonia> Disaster_Area: we are not helping you break terms of usage
[17:37] <Disaster_Area> ikonia, alr~
[17:37] <Disaster_Area> i know that's the right answer :L
[17:37] <Kingsy> thats something I didnt know :)
[17:37] <ioria> Kingsy,  sure you  can
[17:37] <Kingsy> if thats the case
[17:38] <ioria> Kingsy,  you are in text mode, but you have the 'quiet splash' that for X
[17:38] <Disaster_Area> I think I'll just hunt for an alternative then
[17:39] <Kingsy> ioria: sorry if I am taking a while getting this.. its asking me twice for my password.. once to unencrypt swap and again for home... this is not normal I assume?
[17:39] <ioria> Kingsy,  nope
[17:39] <ikonia> Kingsy: do you actually "need" encryption
[17:39] <Kingsy> ikonia: yes :)
[17:39] <ioria> Kingsy,  just one passphrase
[17:39] <Kingsy> ioria: hrm, is that because of the way I have partitioned these during the installation?
[17:40] <ioria> Kingsy,   sudo parted -l
[17:40] <ioria> Kingsy,   sudo parted -l  |nc termbin.com 9999
[17:40] <eraxm0> anyone can help me with my wifi connection problem?
[17:42] <Kingsy> ioria: http://termbin.com/gbz1
[17:42] <ioria> Kingsy,   and it asks for unlocking root not home or stuff
[17:43] <Kingsy> oh no, sorry I didnt explain that right
[17:43] <Kingsy> ioria: it mounts the root partition and directly after doing that it asks for the passphrase for sdb5... then it asks for sdb3
[17:43] <Kingsy> sdb3 is home.. sdb5 is swap (whicn you know) heh
[17:46] <ioria> Kingsy, the next time, let the installer do its job automatically (especially  if you use encyption) :þ
[17:47] <EriC^^> Kingsy: what's the problem?
[17:47] <Kingsy> ioria: well I would haev but it wanted to bundle the home partition into the same partition as /
[17:47] <Kingsy> I wanted it seperate so I could swap out the OS easy.
[17:48] <ioria> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/gbz1    custom partitions with encryption on mini install
[17:48] <Kingsy> perhaps I should have installed without a swap partition
[17:48] <EriC^^> Kingsy: create a encrypted home dir not home partition
[17:48] <ioria> Kingsy, sure thing the passphrase is asked once
[17:49] <ioria> Kingsy, home is automatically decrypted
[17:49] <Kingsy> EriC^^: yeah startign to think thats the best way forward.
[17:49] <Kingsy> I might reinstall
[17:49] <EriC^^> there's a guide to remove the swap partition asking twice i think
[17:49] <Kingsy> actually no
[17:49] <Kingsy> I am going to stick with encrypted partitions
[17:50] <Kingsy> EriC^^: oh yeah??? got a link?
[17:50] <ioria> Kingsy, so your root in on /dev/sda1 uncrypted ?
[17:51] <Kingsy> yes
[17:51] <ioria> Kingsy, no good
[17:51] <root____5> .
[17:51] <ioria> Kingsy, if you just need your home encrypted no need to do it in the installe, you can do it later
[17:51] <Kingsy> ioria: actually... why is sdb1 not appearing in that parted output?
[17:52] <Kingsy> ioria: I want to encrypt the partition
[17:52] <ioria> Kingsy,  sdb1 ?   your usb media ?
[17:52] <EriC^^> Kingsy: come to think of it, i think it's supposed to generate a random key each time
[17:52] <Kingsy> sorry
[17:52] <Kingsy> damn it..
[17:52] <EriC^^> Kingsy: what does /etc/crypttab have?
[17:52] <SatoshiRol> I'd like to disable edge scrolling on my touchpad. Is there a config file somewhere that has this setting?
[17:52] <Kingsy> ioria: I meant to type sda1
[17:53] <ioria> Kingsy,  1      1049kB  40.0GB  40.0GB  primary   ext4         boot
[17:53] <Kingsy> ioria: ah yes I see it
[17:53] <Kingsy> EriC^^: two entries, sdb3_crypt and sdb5_crypt
[17:54] <ioria> Kingsy,  usually we encrypt root , for security, and home for pricacy :)
[17:54] <ioria> *privacy
[17:54] <EriC^^> Kingsy: paste the sdb5_crypt one
[17:55] <Kingsy> EriC^^: http://termbin/v91f
[17:55] <Kingsy> oops.. need a .com in there.
[17:55] <EriC^^> i think the best way to go about it is using the uuid
[17:56] <Kingsy> http://termbin.com/v91f <--
[17:56] <Kingsy> EriC^^: in what way?
[17:56] <EriC^^> cause if you plug in another disk it might think that's it and it would trash the partition
[17:56] <Kingsy> its using the UUID in that file tho
[17:56] <EriC^^> ubuntu by default now uses offset=1024 in it so it doesnt trash the uuid so it can use it next time
[17:56] <EriC^^> ah good i didnt check it yet :)
[17:57] <EriC^^> ok maybe modifying the line will remove the passphrase
[17:57] <Kingsy> any idea of the mod? tbh I could probably start googling now
[17:57] <Kingsy> you guys have given me ALOT of good info today
[17:58] <EriC^^> try putting this sdb5_crypt UUID=04e133f9-4cc0-44ac-b4b7-0766a64b410c /dev/urandom   swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256,size=256
[17:58] <EriC^^> i'm not sure if you have to put luks there or what really
[17:58] <EriC^^> maybe somebody who knows more about these stuff can help
[17:58] <Kingsy> alrigth
[17:58] <Kingsy> I'll try it when I get home
[17:58] <ioria> Kingsy,  if you want encryption, you need to do it on root too
[17:58] <EriC^^> try this, this is the ubuntu default i think
[17:58] <Kingsy> gotta run now.. or traffic is going to kick my ass
[17:59] <ElLoco> Hello, I need help with this: 'mv *.jpg *.JPG' what is wrong?
[17:59] <Kingsy> ioria: well I am not bothered about / being encrpyted really. just /home
[17:59] <EriC^^> sdb5_crypt UUID=04e133f9-4cc0-44ac-b4b7-0766a64b410c dev/urandom swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64
[17:59] <Kingsy> ok
[17:59] <EriC^^> ElLoco: that wont work
[17:59] <ioria> Kingsy, so, you don't need to do it in the installer
[18:00] <EriC^^> ElLoco: try rename 's/.jpg$/.JPG/' *.jpg
[18:00] <ioria> Kingsy, sudo ecryptfs-migrate-home -u user
[18:00] <ElLoco> EriC^^, I can't rename files in that way?
[18:00] <EriC^^> ElLoco: nope, after expansion the command is mv 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg .JPG
[18:01] <ElLoco> Ahhh, ok EriC^^ , I will use rename instead
[18:01] <Kingsy> ioria: but if I wanted the encrypted partition option I need to do it in the isntaller.
[18:01] <ElLoco> thanks
[18:01] <EriC^^> ElLoco: no problem
[18:01] <ioria> Kingsy, ok
[18:02] <Kingsy> well I am off for now.
[18:02] <EriC^^> Kingsy: sorry there was a typo in the last one
[18:02] <EriC^^> sdb5_crypt UUID=04e133f9-4cc0-44ac-b4b7-0766a64b410c /dev/urandom swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64
[18:02] <EriC^^> i think that should work and leave the uuid in tact and stuff
[18:02] <Kingsy> ioria: EriC^^ thanks so much for your help. I'll poick this back up in a couple of hours I hope
[18:02] <Kingsy> EriC^^: oh alright!! I'll give it a blast as soon as I get home
[18:02] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[18:03] <Kingsy> very awesome guys, thanks
[18:03] <ioria> Kingsy, no prob
[18:03] <EriC^^> no problem
[18:03] <robot> olaaaaaaa
[18:04] <robot> ke tal estas
[18:05] <Nemesis> hi
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[18:06] <EriC^^> !es | robot
[18:07] <Nemesis> español
[18:08] <kbob> latino
[18:08] <robot> os espero a todos
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[18:10] <Nemesis> Nemesis
[18:10] <iffi> hola
[18:10] <Nemesis> hola
[18:10] <Nemesis> en ubuntu.es no hay nadie.. solo yo
[18:11] <Artemis3> #ubuntu-es
[18:11] <iffi> No hablo español, pero tengo google translate
[18:11] <Nemesis> good
[18:12] <kk4ewt> !es
[18:13] <iffi> So, I recently wrote a program that installs metasploit-framework and armitage on Ubuntu
[18:13] <iffi> are any of you interested? its on my github
[18:14] <Nemesis> español iffi
[18:14] <robot> me gustaria charlar cn vos
[18:15] <teward> !offtopic | iffi
[18:15] <iffi> oh sorry
[18:15] <EleanorEllis> My friend's hard disk keeps filling up. Deja Dup was set to automatically backup but I have disabled it. Trouble is I can't remember what folder it was backing up to so I can't find the files to delete. How would I search for them?
[18:18] <sharp9> Whats up guyys, quick question. I'm trying to make my keyboard back light on my MacBook Pro, but I can't seem to get it to work. any recommendations? I tried editing the smc::kbd_backlight parameters :P
[18:22] <mpo42vr> Guys, how do I install software in 16.10? I have registered at UbuntuOne, I can login at https://login.ubuntu.com/ and yet Software Center tells me I enter a wrong email/password which I don't
[18:23] <ikonia> software center shoudl be using your local username/password
[18:23] <ikonia> not ubuntu one
[18:23] <eaguad> iffi, can you help me with something, please?
[18:23] <mpo42vr> ikonia: Software Center asks for an email
[18:23] <ikonia> mpo42vr: it shouldn't
[18:23] <ikonia> that should be optional
[18:24] <mpo42vr> ikonia: So, what do I do wrong?
[18:24] <ikonia> mpo42vr: I don't know,
[18:24] <mpo42vr> I can only enter an email
[18:24] <ikonia> when you open software center, it should not prompt you for anything
[18:24] <ikonia> it should only prompt you for a login if you are "puchasing" something
[18:25] <mpo42vr> ikonia: It prompts me for the email when I try to install software
[18:25] <ikonia> what software
[18:25] <mpo42vr> A snap
[18:26] <ikonia> "what software"
[18:26] <mpo42vr> libreoffice
[18:26] <ikonia> so that poses an interesting question, I don't know how snaps pickup from the repos in terms of "auth"
[18:29] <cctlpt> ikonia, what de/wm do you use? im curious
[18:29] <ikonia> cctlpt: doesn't matter what I use
[18:29] <lambertu> any one need help?
[18:29] <lambertu> have few minutes
[18:29] <cctlpt> ikonia, i just wanna know
[18:29] <ikonia> cctlpt: it doesn't matter, as I've told you a few times
[18:30] <cctlpt> ikonia, i respect you for all your unix related knowledge
[18:30] <cctlpt> thats why i wanna know what de/wm you use
[18:30] <ikonia> it really doesn't matter, what matters is what you want/use
[18:30] <cctlpt> ikonia, maybe i will discover something new, who knows
[18:30] <BluesKaj> seems to matter to him :-)
[18:31] <mpo42vr> lambertu: You could tell me how to install software with software center :p
[18:31] <xangua> Should I set up a swap partition on SSD install? 250 GB, 8 GB RAM, regular use and some video edition and gaming
[18:31] <lambertu> mpo42vr, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[18:31] <ikonia> mpo42vr: I think the problem is snap - not "installing software" I'm trying to read/understand how it auth's for snaps, as I don't know
[18:32] <lambertu> xangua, as i told you before, you should only when you will see a need for that, until then you don't need it, since swap space will wear your ssd down
[18:33] <mpo42vr> lambertu: He's unlikely to need and use swap anyway
[18:33] <lambertu> mpo42vr, i know
[18:33] <ikonia> mpo42vr: how do you asses that ?
[18:33] <lambertu> mpo42vr, he just want to tweak his system
[18:34] <ikonia> swap can be very useful
[18:34] <BluesKaj> heh, I have only 6GB RAM , but haven't used a swap for about 6 months with no illl effects so far
[18:34] <lambertu> when you are on heavy loads and don't want your system to freeze
[18:34] <ikonia> "he won't use swap" is a bad thing to say blind
[18:34] <ikonia> you need to understand the use case of the system
[18:34] <mpo42vr> eh
[18:34] <ikonia> just because he has ram doesn't mean he won't use swap, or won't benifit from swap
[18:35] <mpo42vr> ikonia: You have a very unlikable persona
[18:35] <lambertu> true, but 8 gb of ram is enough for standart user anyways
[18:35] <newke> hello. i currently use ubuntu gnome 16.10. last few updates screwed and then pulse audio. im thinking about moving to 16.04 to avoid such inconveniences. do 16.04 sometimes screw things up too? should i move to 16.04?
[18:35] <newke> screwed and then fixed *
[18:35] <ikonia> 8gb is pleanty but how you do you know he won't use it, how do you know he won't benifit from swap based on just one fact "he has 8gb of ram"
[18:36] <mpo42vr> ikonia: Read what I wrote
[18:36] <lambertu> since i am developer, and i just moved from 8gb system
[18:36] <ikonia> mpo42vr: about what ? I'm trying to find the snap info for you,
[18:37] <mpo42vr> ikonia: If that's a problem for you - don't
[18:37] <ikonia> mpo42vr: it's not, it's interesting to know, I've never looked at the auth system/requirements for pulling in a snap before
[18:38] <ikonia> mpo42vr: out of interest, can you install a "non-snap" package, say from the core repo without problem ?
[18:38] <lambertu> what are you discussing about?
[18:39] <cctlpt> ikonia, if you like, you could pm me and tell me what de/wm you use
[18:39] <ikonia> cctlpt: no
[18:39] <mpo42vr> ikonia: It seems like I only get snaps to install
[18:39] <ikonia> cctlpt: please stop asking, I've responded to you many times on this
[18:39] <Hanumaan> I have just did a huge wrong .. with this command "mv randomfile.txt VeryImportantHugeFile.data" is there a way to recover? using ubuntu.
[18:39] <ikonia> mpo42vr: really, you don't see any traditional packages ?
[18:39] <cctlpt> ikonia, ok, i will stop
[18:39] <ikonia> cctlpt: thank you
[18:40] <ikonia> Hanumaan: no
[18:40] <xangua> ikonia: how about setting up a 4 GB swap partition and set the swapiness to 10?
[18:40] <mpo42vr> ikonia: I tried a few apps and all I got were snaps
[18:40] <ikonia> xangua: what about it ?
[18:40] <ikonia> mpo42vr: and this is on a standard 16.10 install ?
[18:40] <ikonia> mpo42vr: nothing changed etc etc
[18:40] <mpo42vr> I did a network install
[18:40] <mpo42vr> But have only booted into it
[18:41] <ikonia> mpo42vr: out of interest if you do "apt-cache search $package name" does it show snaps or packages ?
[18:41] <xangua> ikonia: would that be a sane option for SSD?
[18:41] <ikonia> (pick any random package you want)
[18:41] <ikonia> xangua: SSD has nothing to do with it, it's your use case
[18:41] <mpo42vr> ikonia: Yes, I can install all packages with apt
[18:42] <ikonia> mpo42vr: interesting so software center is only presenting snaps for some reason
[18:42] <ikonia> mpo42vr: there have been comments that there are two versions of software center, I wonder if you have the "right" one
[18:42] <ikonia> I suspect that problem is mostly from upgrades though, rather than clean instlls
[18:42] <lambertu> xangua, have your system ever frozen?
[18:43] <xangua> lambertu: brand new computer, but my old one never did
[18:43] <ikonia> what has "frozen" got to do with it ?
[18:43] <xangua> Ubuntu install, but dropped water on it :-(
[18:45] <mpo42vr> xangua: Thinkpads ftw
[18:45] <ikonia> now you're just saying random hardware names ???
[18:45] <lambertu> xangua, then the only case in which you will use swap space is hibernation, or in other words suspend mode, if you use it, you should set 8 gb swap space
[18:45] <ikonia> xangua: lets cut to the chase, what's the actual use case you're trying to build for
[18:45] <hacker> hey
[18:45] <SatoshiRol> Hi guys! I'm looking for a way to disable the edge scroll on the touch pad. Is there a config file somewhere that controls this?
[18:46] <ducasse> lambertu: suspend and hibernate are two different things
[18:46] <ghabit> Hello! I have installed nvidia driver using software-properties-gtk just by choosing them. Is it working for amd cards? My mate is installing ubuntu, and he needs help.
[18:47] <asd123> Hi!
[18:48] <xangua> lambertu: oh I want suspend, that settles it thanks
[18:49] <asd123> Here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP they say I need to do $ sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ - which I did. But I'm wondering why $ sudo apt-cache search lamp-server doesn't bring anything?
[18:49] <ikonia> it's a meta package
[18:50] <psikokiller23> hi
[18:51] <ducasse> xangua: hibernate or suspend?
[18:51] <lambertu> suspend rocks
[18:51] <psikokiller23> what is the purpose of this chat?
[18:51] <lambertu> ghabit, you should check according to your mates video card, some cards has really good support
[18:52] <lambertu> To help people who are new on ubuntu and to improve our own knowledge
[18:52] <ghabit> lambertu, so software-properties-gtk will work? As it works for nvidia cards?
[18:52] <hawk_> ola
[18:52] <ikonia> ghabit: probably not
[18:52] <hawk_> br aqi ?
[18:52] <psikokiller23> lambertu, ty
[18:52] <ikonia> ghabit: the amd cards / drivers / xorg setup is a bit of a mess at the moment with old card support / new card new system mix
[18:52] <ghabit> ikonia, how to install amd drivers? Easiest way. :) Thanks!
[18:53] <lambertu> ghabit, nvidia and amd are two different video cards, they have different drivers, what card is he using and what system is he on?
[18:53] <ikonia> ghabit: you need to look at his card model - and see which "version" of the amd drivers and which xorg version is compatible with it
[18:53] <ikonia> ghabit: it's a bit in the middle of a transition state
[18:53] <lambertu> ikonia, depends on video card
[18:53] <arseniev> hello, guys
[18:54] <lambertu> Hello mate
[18:54] <ikonia> lambertu: I know, I just said that, did you read the clear information I gave him ?
[18:54] <arseniev> chlen
[18:55] <lambertu> i was referring to you previous message :)
[18:55] <ikonia> lambertu: which one ?
[18:55] <sharp9> Hey guys, anyone know anything about activation the keyboard lights on 16.04 on a macbook pro mid 2010? can't get it to work :P
[18:56] <lambertu> ikonia, the one before you explained everything
[18:56] <lambertu> sharp9, have you tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/812734/macbook-pro-backlight-control-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04 ?
[18:57] <lambertu> does mirc support clear command?
[18:57] <lambertu> ./clear
[18:57] <CRCurself> Hello all.
[18:57] <lambertu> yeh /clear it is :)
[18:57] <lambertu> hello
[18:57] <asdasdasdasdasda> hi
[18:57] <CRCurself> Question for you.
[18:57] <lambertu> Go on
[18:58] <CRCurself> How does a host computer know the IP of a computer on the same network in order to send an ARP request? From what I understand, you must know the IP in order to map it to a HW address.
[18:59] <ikonia> it's in the tcp stack
[18:59] <ikonia> look up the 7 layers
[18:59] <ikonia> try the ##networking channel too
[18:59] <lambertu> ikonia, what do you do for a living?
[18:59] <ikonia> mpo42vr: can you get the package name of your software center version on you system please (and if possible the version tag)
[18:59] <ikonia> lambertu: doesn't matter
[18:59] <CRCurself> I know the 7 layers, but I'm stuck on this problem. the networking channel is having issues which is why I came here.
[18:59] <sharp9> lambertu, I was checking that answer out last night. I'm going back to it now. thanks for checking!
[19:00] <ikonia> CRCurself: networking channel is just fine
[19:00] <CRCurself> Okay, thanks for your help.
[19:00] <lambertu> ikonia, how old are you?
[19:00] <ikonia> lambertu: again, doesn't matter
[19:00] <lambertu> ikonia, are you russian?
[19:01] <ikonia> lambertu: please stop with the questions
[19:01] <lambertu> ikonia, what's wrong with them?
[19:01] <ikonia> they have nothing to do with this channel
[19:01] <lambertu> ikonia, would you answer them in pm?
[19:02] <ikonia> no
[19:02] <reductio> why does apt-get remove samba* removes many packages that whose name do not start with samba?
[19:02] <lambertu> ikonia, so they have nothing to do with this channel?
[19:02] <ikonia> lambertu: correct
[19:02] <ikonia> reductio: dependencies
[19:02] <lambertu> because * selects everything that goes after samba
[19:02] <ikonia> reductio: some packages will depend on the samba package, so if you remove samba, the packages that need them to function will also be removed
[19:02] <lambertu> you should be specific on what you want to remove
[19:03] <reductio> ikonia, not really, cryptomator is not a dependency, for example
[19:03] <ikonia> reductio: are you sure, even optional
[19:03] <ghabit> lambertu, hd 7850 on 16.04 lst
[19:03] <ikonia> reductio: it can also be a reverse dependency, eg: it was installed by samba,
[19:03] <ghabit> *lts
[19:04] <reductio> lambertu, i intend to remove everything starting with samba so...
[19:04] <ikonia> reductio: do an apt-get autoclean first
[19:04] <ikonia> reductio: see if you have any that are pending clean up
[19:04] <reductio> ikonia, will try, but i think ive do it before
[19:05] <ikonia> reductio: worth checking, also worth checking if that package was pulled in as a depdency of samba, or a if samba is removing a dependency, that that package depends on, rather than directly depends on samba, it's all linked
[19:06] <reductio> ikonia, tried it but same result, for a better known example than cryptomator, it is removing vlc also :s
[19:06] <jayjo> I can't get through the login screen of ubuntu 16.06, but I can access my machine through a shell. Any ideas why this would happen, or have you heard of this before?
[19:07] <ikonia> reductio: trace the dependencies though
[19:07] <ikonia> reductio: I'll bet you'll find it's a dependency of a dependency
[19:08] <ikonia> jayjo: hard disk full home partition read only, no space on the home partition, wrong partitions on the home directory
[19:08] <ikonia> jayjo: does it login, then flash and go back to the login prompt ?
[19:08] <jayjo> ikonia: that's exactly what it does
[19:08] <ikonia> jayjo: %90 of the time is because it can't write to the directories in your home directory, readonly/nospace/wrong permissions
[19:08] <lambertu> reductio, have you checked https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa
[19:09] <reductio> ikonia, samba is a dependency of vlc? sounds weird... i could probably read the manual on this but can you tell me how to find the dependencies of a package?
[19:09] <jayjo> so login to the shell and remove some things from my home directory?
[19:09] <ikonia> reductio: no, samba takes something away as a dependency that vlc also needs so vlc has to go to
[19:09] <ikonia> jayjo: look at why it can't write to the home directory
[19:09] <ikonia> not randomly remove things
[19:09] <jayjo> why could that have changed?
[19:09] <reductio> ikonia, now it makes sense
[19:09] <ikonia> jayjo: work out the problem first, then work out why it's broke
[19:10] <shadaloo> hi
[19:10] <shadaloo> need help getting wireless mouse working in 16.10
[19:10] <shadaloo> mouse is a logitech g700s
[19:14] <rht> asking for registration code plz
[19:14] <ikonia> registration to what ?
[19:15] <rht> hmm....linux community website?
[19:15] <ikonia> nothing to do with this channel
[19:15] <rht> oops!
[19:15] <ikonia> the website should say where to get a registration code
[19:15] <rht> hmm...
[19:25] <shadaloo> i have a completely up to date 16.10 installation
[19:25] <lambertu> and?
[19:25] <shadaloo> and my wireless mouse cursor is not updating
[19:25] <lambertu> remind me your mouse model
[19:25] <shadaloo> g700s
[19:25] <shadaloo> i can see the mouse hovering over things
[19:25] <shadaloo> but the cursor is stuck in the very top left of the display
[19:27] <shadaloo> not sure how ubuntu forgot logitech unifying wireless mouse support in a major release
[19:28] <knittell> hello all
[19:28] <knittell> I've got a small problem