[20:19] <bekks> Which drivers?
[20:19] <hetii> re
[20:19] <mat083> use xboot to make you usb key bootable! better way than cd or dvd
[20:19] <MSponge> or the software on the S2 drive to connect it.
[20:19] <MSponge> i dunno.
[20:20] <ioria> MSponge, if you paste the output , maybe we can help
[20:20] <bekks> MSponge: the software shipped on it isnt needed at all.
[20:20] <bekks> MSponge: So just check which filesystems are on it, after proceeding with the instructions above.
[20:20] <hetii> ok I start from scratch and based on this howto: https://www.maketecheasier.com/configure-pxe-server-ubuntu/ I setup new enviroment regarding PXE server, what I notice the different from this howto is that name of vmlinuz is now vmlinuz.efi
[20:21] <MSponge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15441139/
[20:21] <bekks> hetii: vmlinuz.efi is used on EFI systems.
[20:21] <hetii> so at the end still I got kernel panic.
[20:21] <MSponge> i think its ntfs
[20:21] <ioria> MSponge, seems sdb1
[20:21] <hetii> bekks: ok but what about PXE functionality ?
[20:22] <MSponge> right-oh .. what now brains ?
[20:22] <hetii> I don`t see old vmlinuz in iso image
[20:22] <bekks> hetii: PXE functionality isnt affected.
[20:22] <ioria> MSponge, you can format it, or mount it
[20:22] <MSponge> mount it please.
[20:22] <bekks> MSponge: you think it is? Check it :)
[20:22] <MSponge> how ?
[20:23] <MSponge> on the file expolrer ?
[20:23] <bekks> MSponge: By looking at sudo fdisk -l
[20:23] <MSponge> oh ok. cheers.
[20:23] <hetii> bekks  I play with it second day and it seams it is. I try different configuration/dhcp servers/tftpd server, etc...but still i`m not able to boot up ubuntu over network
[20:23] <ioria> MSponge,  if it's new ... maybe a you need to create a fs ...
[20:23] <hetii> most of the time I got kernel panic or drop into initramfs shell
[20:24] <MSponge> Does this help out ?     http://paste.ubuntu.com/15441188/
[20:24] <bekks> hetii: try these links instead https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[20:25] <ioria> MSponge,  seems ntfs ... create a mount point ... mkdir ~/mountpoint and try to mount it
[20:27] <ioria> MSponge,  sorry, it's big.... maybe better to make some partitions...
[20:27] <bekks> ioria: Sounds like nonsense :)
[20:27] <ioria> yeah, sorry
[20:27] <bekks> ioria: a 1TB filesystem is perfectly OK.
[20:27] <hetii> bekks: but in first link they use kernel 2.6 and as I said there is no vmlinuz in iso images that I grab last time (test with 14.04/15.04 linuxmint)
[20:27] <ioria> 500.1
[20:27] <bekks> And creating partitions on it will remove the ability of automouting it when plugin it in.
[20:27] <hetii> I see there just vmlinuz.efi
[20:28] <ioria> fstab
[20:28] <bekks> hetii: And whats the issue at that point?
[20:28] <bekks> ioria: the fstab will not help you at that point.
[20:29] <MSponge> So what is next? Did I mount it ? 'cos it's not in 'folders'
[20:29] <hetii> end Kernel panic - not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknow block(2,0)
[20:29] <bekks> MSponge: We dont know wether you mounted it - did you? Did you use the mount command?
[20:29] <bekks> hetii: When doing what exactly?
[20:29] <MSponge> yes, but nothing happened.
[20:30] <bekks> MSponge: Which command did you use?
[20:30] <MSponge> note im using a Live DVD 12.04 BTW.
[20:30] <MSponge> i used this : mkdir ~/mountpoint
[20:30] <bekks> MSponge: and?
[20:30] <MSponge> nothing.
[20:31] <bekks> MSponge: thats not "mount", but "mkdir".
[20:31] <bekks> MSponge: mkdir creates a directory.
[20:31] <ioria> MSponge,  try   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /home/<user>/mounpoint
[20:32] <hetii> bekks: I use this pxe configuration: http://pastebin.ca/3406994 and then I start my second virtualbox instance and it end with that message.
[20:32] <ioria> MSponge,  oh... on live cd ?
[20:32] <hetii> bekks:  belive me that I try many things already with the same result
[20:32] <bekks> hetii: Did you install the extension pack for virtualbox?
[20:32] <ioria> MSponge,  mount on /media
[20:33] <hetii> no, but the same issue have when configure real box as a server and boot up second real box as a client
[20:33] <MSponge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15441292/
[20:33] <bekks> ioria: weong again. /media is for the automounter. For manual mounts, use /mnt/
[20:33] <MSponge> trying more stuff like you said too.
[20:33] <ioria> right
[20:33] <bekks> hetii: Without the extension pack, you cannot use PXE in a vm.
[20:34] <MSponge> what the full command please ?
[20:34] <ioria> MSponge,     sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[20:34] <MSponge> cheers
[20:34] <hetii> bekks: ok will install it now.
[20:34] <hetii> bekks:  just tell me what it change ?
[20:34] <bekks> hetii: It adds support for PXE booting.
[20:35] <MSponge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15441327/
[20:35] <MSponge> still not in folders though.
[20:35] <bekks> MSponge: Whichh folders?
[20:36] <bekks> MSponge: Whats the output of "mount"?
[20:37] <gvo> I lost a drive, so I'm installing a couple of new 2TB drives and plan on installing them as a raid 1 mirror.  Is it better to configure the mirror first and then install or install to one and clone to the other?
[20:37] <MSponge> mount does this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15441358/
[20:38] <bekks> gvo: you cant configure a mirror having just one drive.
[20:38] <gvo> I know,
[20:38] <bekks> gvo: Then your question is answered.
[20:38] <ioria> MSponge,    seems mounted
[20:38] <bekks> MSponge: you mounted it to /mnt
[20:38] <gvo> That's not what I asked.  No it isn't
[20:39] <gvo> I can either create a mirror before installing or add the second drive afterwards.  Which is better?  Or possible?
[20:39] <MSponge> When dio i get it in the file explorer or whatever it's called ?
[20:39] <bekks> gvo: you need two drives for a mirror. not having them means you cannot create a mirror.
[20:39] <gvo> In other words do a conventional install to one drive then create the mirror.
[20:39] <bekks> MSponge: ls -lha /mnt/
[20:40] <gvo> I have two drives.
[20:40] <bekks> gvo: Then use both upon installation.
[20:40] <gvo> Create the mirror at install time, then?
[20:40] <bekks> gvo: Yes.
[20:41] <gvo> OK I've never seen that option, but I'll look.
[20:41] <gvo> Thanks.
[20:41] <bekks> gvo: It is on the server install only.
[20:41] <MSponge> its mounted but not in file expolrer .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/15441394/
[20:41] <bekks> MSponge: Just navigate to /mnt/ in your file explorer
[20:43] <hetii> bekks: still the same issue
[20:43] <MSponge> ok cheers got it now .
[20:44] <MSponge> thanks everyone !!
[20:44] <ioria> MSponge,   you mounted as sudo, so you need sudo command i terminal or gksu to edit the files
[20:44] <MSponge> anyone need a flatter ?
[20:44] <ikonia> flatter ?
[20:44] <bekks> ioria: No. He needs to mount properly.
[20:45] <MSponge> https://flattr.com/about
[20:45] <ikonia> ?
[20:45] <MSponge> for helping me out.
[20:46] <ikonia> no-one wants paying if thats what you're asking
[20:46] <MSponge> Nevermind then . bye.
[20:46] <MSponge> well that was a bit weird, but cheers.
[20:46] <ioria> MSponge,    may i ask you why are you on Live cd ... you don't have Ubuntu installed ?
[20:47] <MSponge> I dont havwe a computer and I commandeered a winblows laptop and put a dvd on it to boot into.
[20:47] <ikonia> "windows"
[20:47] <hetii> bekks: BTW i was able to boot up in the same enviroment for eg archlinux, without any issue
[20:47] <ioria> MSponge,    i see
[20:48] <hetii> so really seams that something is wrong with ubuntu image
[20:48] <MSponge> but i cant mess with the winblows thingy - its not mine, ya see.
[20:48] <ikonia> "windows"
[20:48] <bekks> hetii: So did you check hashes of the the iso file you are using?
[20:48] <MSponge> nah, winblows.
[20:48] <bekks> MSponge: In here, it is called Windows.
[20:48] <hetii> yes, I use 3 different iso for testing
[20:48] <ikonia> MSponge: if you can't even call things the proper name - please don't speak any more
[20:48] <ghostmag> "windows"
[20:48] <MSponge> k bye
[20:48] <ioria> MSponge,    bye
[20:49] <bekks> hetii: Did you check the checksums of the iso files?
[20:50] <hetii> bekks: yes
[20:51] <hetii> maybe some of you can test live boot over pxe for eg with ubuntu 14.04
[20:51] <hetii> to be sure that images are not broken
[20:53] <nrb2223> I'm installing ubuntu 15.10 and I'm stuck on the install screen that just has all the tips for ubuntu you can flip through. There's no progress bar or exit button, and if I try to force quit it asks do I really want to quit installation. Is this normal?
[20:56] <scythefwd> good evenin folks
[20:56] <Ratty_> Hi. I'm getting "bash: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable" whenever I try to do anything. What would cause that?
[20:56] <scythefwd> sharing a printer via cups a relatively easy manner?
[20:58] <tux_> hello
[20:58] <scythefwd> evenin tux
[20:59] <tux_> scythefwd: hello
[20:59] <Malgorath> scythefwd, if you using the share function in the printer part of settings its pretty easy
[21:00] <scythefwd> my mac then should see it and be able to use it? (they both use cups...)
[21:00] <scythefwd> and thx malgor
[21:00] <scythefwd> I
[21:00] <Ratty_> oh, a "small" bug in my homemade toolbar caused endless processes to get spawned, filling it up.
[21:00] <Anthony-L> I'm trying to make a ubuntu usb live os. I'm trying to use persistence and it doesn't seem to be working.
[21:01] <scythefwd> I'm in the prosess of setting up a unofficial fork for ppc.. so we can hope they compiled things right lol
[21:01] <nad> what method are you using for live usb
[21:01] <nad> I used unetbootin, persistance worked fine but it was very slow running off the usb
[21:02] <rachit> any real human here ?
[21:02] <Anthony-L> nad, i was using netbooting too.
[21:02] <scythefwd> several rachit
[21:02] <kerbrose> hello people
[21:02] <rachit> aah good to hear
[21:02] <kerbrose> I have an issue with ubuntu.com
[21:02] <Anthony-L> nad, do you have a UEFI system?
[21:02] <scythefwd> or at least they pass the touring test :D
[21:03] <rachit> i recently dumped windows and using only ubuntu
[21:03] <hetii> BTW I just set slitaz and he boot without any issue
[21:03] <kerbrose> ubuntu.com is almost inaccessible from the Egyptian netowrks
[21:03] <scythefwd> I've done that a few times.. I keep going back as I'm a windows admin at work.. so I try to keep up
[21:03] <kerbrose> could someone help me
[21:04] <nad> no uefi
[21:04] <scythefwd> kerbrose.. tor?
[21:04] <jonascj> I need some modules loaded at startup. Is placing the modules in /etc/modules the same as placing them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and running mkinitramfs ?
[21:04] <kerbrose> yeah through tor is ok
[21:04] <kerbrose> through vpn is also ok
[21:04] <scythefwd> any reason just dont use those?
[21:05] <Anthony-L> nad, that's why persistence works for you.
[21:06] <Anthony-L> nad, thanks for you help. i'm going to research.
[21:07] <kerbrose> I don't know but I tried to update my box it's very slow. then I figured out that ubuntu.com is very slow. I tried different devices and different networks I get the same issue
[21:07] <scythefwd> could it be infrastructure issues, throttling, etc at the isp?would explain why vpn and tor works.. the data is anonymized
[21:08] <kerbrose> I tried different ISPs ..
[21:09] <scythefwd> but the second you access outside the country.. you're good?>
[21:09] <kerbrose> yes
[21:09] <scythefwd> you guys have a buddying firewall of china there?
[21:09] <loveheartjoylove> where is off topic?
[21:10] <jushur> loveheartjoylove: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:10] <kerbrose> no ,, I don't think they would throttle ubuntu.com here. only politics websites
[21:10] <loveheartjoylove> thanks
[21:10] <kerbrose> I think that there is a problem but I'm not sure
[21:11] <loveheartjoylove> I was reflected to unregulated
[21:11] <loveheartjoylove> redirected
[21:11] <scythefwd> I'd rock the vpn for the time being.. if thats bypassing your issue.. assuming any connection over ssl would be pretty good?
[21:12] <jushur> kerbrose: they are doing MITM/throttling on anything that can bypass their monitoring tools. move to another country if you want to actually use a free internet.
[21:14] <kerbrose> there is major isp vendor sold to a different company "orange" could that be the problem. @jushur yes they do but ubuntu.com will not push them to throttle it
[21:15] <Ratty_> My remote desktop doesn't start up until I login, but I can only login via ssh. Is there a way to force lightdm to login via an ssh session?
[21:18] <mat083> you could do a ssh tube thanks to putty
[21:20] <Ratty_> Sure, but how does that help me login?
[21:20] <Ratty_> there's nothing to tunnel
[21:22] <mat083> tunel your rdp with ssh can protect the connexion
[21:22] <ikonia> Ratty_: "no"
[21:22] <ikonia> you need to question why you can't login via a desktop session and fix that
[21:22] <Ratty_> I can't because the machine is phsyically miles away
[21:22] <ikonia> so ?
[21:23] <zacktu> I have an error message for apt-get update.  I think that ubottu has an answer. How do I ask the question?  W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[21:23] <Ratty_> So it's currently showing a lightdm login screen.
[21:23] <ikonia> that doesn't explain why a remote desktop won't accept a login
[21:23] <dax> zacktu: are you using 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu
[21:23] <Ratty_> vino doesn't start until after login
[21:24] <Ratty_> Can I start vino before login?
[21:24] <ikonia> no, it's a desktop app
[21:24] <Ratty_> Then how can I possibly login?
[21:25] <ikonia> install a remote desktop service, tell lightdm to accept remote connections
[21:25] <Ratty_> isn't vino the remote desktop service?
[21:25] <ikonia> for when you are logged in
[21:26] <Ratty_> so I need 2 remote desktop services?
[21:26] <ksft> I'm having problems with my graphics card
[21:26] <ksft> (again)
[21:26] <ikonia> no
[21:26] <ikonia> you need one
[21:26] <Ratty_> one that isn't the default ubuntu one?
[21:26] <dax> you need a remote desktop service that actually fits the requirements you have, which include "work at login screen"
[21:26] <ksft> I just installed pycuda (not sure if that's related), and now I can't start a game that was working before
[21:26] <ikonia> Ratty_: apply some logic here
[21:26] <ikonia> Ratty_: if one is launched from within the desktop - you can't use that
[21:26] <ikonia> Ratty_: so you need one that is not inside the desktop
[21:26] <Ratty_> aye
[21:26] <ksft> it says it can't create an OpenGL context and that it needs OpenGL 3.1
[21:26] <ikonia> or you need to connect to the window manager remote
[21:27] <dax> and i've literally never used vino, but i gather that vino does not fit those requirements
[21:27] <Bashing-om> !google-repo | zacktu
[21:27] <Ratty_> ubuntu defaults to vino though, maybe they should change that default
[21:27] <dax> ubuntu doesn't have a remote desktop connection service enabled by default
[21:28] <Ratty_> yeah, but it has a settings panel, and when you enable 'remote desktop' you get vino
[21:28] <ikonia> because it's what people want normally
[21:29] <Ratty_> I'm surprised people normally physically go to the machine to login, then go back and continue remotely
[21:29] <Blakes5> Anyone know anything abotu bluetooth in Ubuntu?
[21:29] <ikonia> your surprie doensn't help you with your problem
[21:29] <Ratty_> nope
[21:29] <dax> people usually just leave their machines logged in, which is why half of my coworkers successfully use Chrome Remote Desktop on Windows
[21:29] <craptalk> how to remote access between ubuntu and windows, vice verse
[21:29] <zacktu> dax: I'm using 64-bit ubuntu
[21:29] <dax> !chrome-repo | zacktu
[21:29] <Ratty_> dax: you can login to windows remotely from a fresh boot
[21:30] <dax> Ratty_: RDP isn't enabled on those machines. but this is neither here nor there. vino doesn't do what you want, find another
[21:30] <Blakes5> craptalk look at reminna
[21:30] <Ratty_> what would do what I want?
[21:30] <Blakes5> craptalk I mean remmina
[21:30] <dax> !google-repo is <alias> chrome-repo
[21:31] <Blakes5> I don't seem to have the functionality to pair devices in ubuntu....all I have is a settings icon and that allows me to either turn my bluetooth dongle on or off.  Help?
[21:31] <Blakes5> Craptalk also look at xrdp
[21:33] <Ratty_> Man, this is why it'll never be the year of the linux desktop. Takes so much hacking just to enable the most basic of features.
[21:33] <ikonia> ...or not
[21:34] <Blakes5> I'm with Ratty on that.
[21:34] <Blakes5> Unless you believe that On/Off is all the functionality I need to make bluetooth work in Ubuntu.
[21:35] <Ratty_> you sure your bluetooth adapter works in Ubuntu?
[21:36] <Blakes5> Ratty, Ubuntu recognizes it.
[21:36] <Ratty_> hmm should be cool then
[21:36] <k1l_> click on the BT symbol. there is a "bluetooth settings" in the menu
[21:37] <Blakes5> k1l_, there is, Settings allows me to turn it on/off....that's it.
[21:37] <k1l_> which will open the same window as: systemsettings -> bluetooth des
[21:37] <k1l_> *does
[21:37] <Blakes5> right
[21:37] <k1l_> then pair your device.
[21:38] <Blakes5> Phone can't see computer. Computer can't see phone.
[21:38] <k1l_> works for smartphones, soundbars and keyboards here
[21:38] <Blakes5> It works in my Windows installation.
[21:38] <k1l_> so you dont know if that is working at all=
[21:38] <k1l_> what ubuntu and what desktop is that?
[21:39] <Blakes5> Gnome Ununtu 15.10. I've looked at a number of sites and videos and I have none of the features listed therein.
[21:40] <k1l_> ah gnome.
[21:40] <k1l_> well might just be the gnome devs thinking you dont need any more settings than on and off
[21:40] <Blakes5> Somehow I doubt that.
[21:41] <k1l_> on unity there is a setting for visibility
[21:42] <boern> hey i have a problem with video playback in chrome/firefox (html5&flash).. i have little stutter from time to time when i watch a video.. do you know how to fix this? i am running on ubuntu 16.04, but i had this issue on linux mint 17.3 as wel
[21:43] <boern> well*
[21:44] <k1l_> boern: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 as long as its not released
[21:44] <k1l_> Blakes5: http://i.stack.imgur.com/2r4Ch.png  that is how it looks on unity
[21:45] <boern> thx
[21:45] <Blakes5> k1l_, take everything under Bluetooth On/Off and throw it away. That's what I have.
[21:45] <k1l_> Blakes5: i call gnome
[21:45] <Blakes5> k1l_, #?
[21:45] <Blakes5> jk
[21:46] <boern> k1l_: but i had this problem on other versions of ubuntu / linux mint as well.. so i thought its a common issue
[21:47] <k1l_> boern: but you cant provide logs or test it on the other versions now.
[21:48] <boern> k1l_: true.. sorry im a noob
[21:59] <jushur> boern: you have what gfx driver installed?
[22:00] <Ratty_> Well I got x11vnc up, it's not as fast as vino, but I guess it'll do.
[22:01] <ksft> can anyone help me
[22:01] <ksft> ?
[22:01] <Ratty_> what's up
[22:01] <ksft> I'm on 14.04, and I'm having problems with my graphics card
[22:01] <Ratty_> nvidia?
[22:01] <ksft> I just installed pycuda (not sure if that's related)
[22:01] <ksft> yeah
[22:01] <ksft> I have a game that worked yesterday
[22:02] <ksft> now, it says that it can't create an OpenGL context
[22:02] <mushmouth> is anybody on realtek having issue with
[22:02] <mushmouth> wifi dropping even tho router is like so close to you?
[22:02] <mushmouth> i manged to fix this with the ppa
[22:02] <Ratty_> ksft: does glxgears work?
[22:02] <ksft> it says it has to support OpenGL v3.1
[22:02] <ksft> uh
[22:02] <ksft> nope
[22:03] <ksft> "X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)"
[22:03] <bekks> ksft: And which nvidia driver did you install?
[22:03] <ksft> I don't remeber
[22:03] <bekks> Then look it up please.
[22:03] <ksft> I did a bunch of stuff to try to get it to work when I installed Ubuntu
[22:03] <ksft> how do I do that?
[22:04] <bekks> ksft: take a look at "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[22:04] <ksft> a lot of things
[22:04] <Ratty_> I used the "official" nvidia driver from the ubuntu software thing and it didn't work at all. So you should make sure to use the one from the nvidia website directly.
[22:04] <ksft> nvidia-340 and nvidia-352
[22:04] <bekks> Ratty_: Dont do that.
[22:05] <Ratty_> what?
[22:05] <bekks> Ratty_: That will break things upon EVERY SINGLE kernel update.
[22:05] <Ratty_> It was already broken though
[22:05] <bekks> ksft: two installed drivers will not work.
[22:05] <bekks> Ratty_: Works fine here, since ages.
[22:05] <ksft> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15442130/
[22:05] <Ratty_> Never worked for me. Unity would crash right away and kick me back to login. But installing the proper ones from nvidia worked perfectly.
[22:06] <ksft> remember*
[22:07] <k1l_> Ratty_: that depends on what video card and what ubuntu version you have there exactly. but its a pain due to kernel updates.
[22:07] <ksft> bekks: which should I uninstall?
[22:07] <ksft> 340 because I assume it's older?
[22:07] <k1l_> ksft: what video card you got?
[22:07] <jushur> Ratty_: dont advice ppl to use things that are not a part of ubuntu, nvidia binary blob from their site is not.. a proper one..
[22:07] <Ratty_> I imagine so. I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 with a GTX 980ti
[22:07] <ksft> k1l_: GeForce GTX 960M
[22:10] <Ratty_> jushur: sometimes it's the only way to make things work
[22:10] <Ratty_> maybe 16.04 will work better.
[22:11] <k1l_> ksft: use at least the 352 one
[22:12] <davido> I was disappointed to discover that if I use the AMD video drivers my DisplayLink device stops working. So on that particular laptop I'm stuck with stock video drivers paired up with displaylink if I want to use the usb 3.0 monitor.
[22:14] <Ratty_> It's hard to find a good vnc viewer these days
[22:14] <reisio> as far as you know
[22:14] <ksft> k1l_: so I should just apt-get purge nvidia-340?
[22:16] <Ratty_> RealVNC and Chicken of VNC both have the same dumb bugs. I guess they're using the same codebase.
[22:16] <ksft> k1l_: I still get the same error when I run glxgears
[22:16] <k1l_> ksft: "sudo apt purge nvidia*" then do a "sudo apt update" and then " sudo apt install nvidia-352"
[22:17] <bekks> Ratty_: they are using the same protocol, full of bugs, VNC.
[22:17] <Ratty_> nah, it's UI bugs
[22:17] <Ratty_> fullscreen mode is some weird custom mode which prevents me switching desktops.
[22:19] <Ratty_> the official OSX screensharing thing works but causes x11vnc to crash after a few seconds
[22:21] <bekks> Ratty_: So use a more sane, faster, more secure implementation like nxclient/nxserver.
[22:21] <reisio> Ratty_: I'd suspect Mac OS's software first, tbh
[22:22] <Ratty_> bekks: does that work before login?
[22:22] <bekks> Ratty_: Yes.
[22:23] <Ratty_> I'll take a butchers
[22:26] <dep> hola
[22:27] <Guest94345> hello, very strange things, I can't install ubuntu 14.04.4 from liveUSB to the system... the installator just stucks up... and freeze
[22:27] <daged> I allready install before ubuntu from thi sUSB and all was ok, but now... very strange
[22:29] <daged> can anybody help me with this issue?
[22:30] <daged> please
[22:30] <ikonia> we can't help a problem where the description is "vvery strange"
[22:32] <daged> ikonia, i have Ubuntu Live USB 14.04.4 created with Ubuntu Disk Creator and oficial iso from ubuntu official site
[22:33] <daged> When I boot teh Live from usb i try to install ubuntu to my ssd, I set install params language partitions etc and start. But installation freeze at first step with creation of ext4 /
[22:33] <daged> and nothing happens
[22:33] <daged> just freeze
[22:35] <Ratty_> Maybe a bad disk?
[22:35] <daged> I don't think so. The disk is good and all tests is good to
[22:35] <daged> o
[22:36] <punkoivan> try to use live mode.
[22:36] <punkoivan> is it ok?
[22:36] <daged> punkoivan,  Live mode from USB?
[22:36] <daged> LiveUSB is booted properly
[22:36] <daged> Now I'm from LiveUSB
[22:37] <ksft> k1l_: doing that...
[22:37] <ksft> how do I get cuda to work after I do tht?
[22:37] <ksft> that*
[22:39] <punkoivan> daged, so, I don't realy know but try to use Alt+F4 during installation - it's switch you to console output, may be helpfull.
[22:39] <punkoivan> Back to graphic mode Alt+F1 9 (or may be F2)
[22:40] <daged> before the start installation process the setup program alerts that: Can't mount filesystem type vfat at device SCSI1(0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at point /boot/efi.
[22:42] <daged> if I dont set the flag on the root partitoon to format... setup is freezed at first step: Feleting conflict files of operation system...
[22:42] <daged> WTF
[22:44] <bekks> daged: you cannot install Ubuntu on VFAT.
[22:45] <k1l_> daged: use ext4 as filesystem for ubuntu partitions
[22:45] <daged> i use ext4
[22:46] <daged> and ext2 for /boot, but when i choose the mount point i choose Boot EFI
[22:46] <mushmouth> bekks: what if i want hammer from dragonfly?
[22:46] <daged> but error appears about vfat, and I don't use vfat
[22:48] <daged> http://pastebin.com/LMLUqC9n
[22:48] <EriC^^> daged: efi is vfat
[22:48] <daged> This is log from Ubuntu setup process
[22:50] <EriC^^> daged: switch to a gpt partition table
[22:50] <bekks> mushmouth: I did not understand your post.
[22:50] <mushmouth> bekks: i want hammer filesystem
[22:50] <bekks> mushmouth: Try formatting instead.
[22:50] <EriC^^> daged: you're using msdos partition table with uefi, it might be the problem
[22:52] <daged> EriC^^, wich pt I must youse?
[22:52] <daged> use
[22:52] <EriC^^> daged: gpt
[22:52] <EriC^^> sudo gdisk , then "o" to create a fresh one, or use gparted
[22:52] <EriC^^> it'll erase everything that's on the disk
[22:52] <daged> ok
[22:52] <daged> I'll try it
[22:52] <daged> 10x
[22:53] <EriC^^> np
[22:55] <daged> EriC^^, and wich partition table I must choose for LiveUSB?
[22:55] <daged> msdos and fat32?
[22:56] <EriC^^> daged: gpt and fat32
[22:56] <EriC^^> msdos and fat32 might work too
[22:57] <EriC^^> daged: just dd the iso, easiest thing to do
[22:58] <daged> ok
[23:07] <craptalk> i tried to isntall live boot through my usb, but when i tried to convert it into ext4, it cancelled out. i checked it was fat32 as its default filesystem, and only format it fat32 then i have no error. why? does my usb doesnt support another filesystem?
[23:07] <ahoneybun> hey does anyone have issues connecting to a TKIP/AES network?
[23:07] <craptalk> ahoneybun: what kind of issues?
[23:08] <cassio_> hello
[23:08] <ahoneybun> craptalk, it doesn't reconqnize the password
[23:08] <auvajs> hi, I did a system upgrade but now when I restart my vps I'm in BasyBox and no idea how to start the system.. lol.. anyone to help? :)
[23:08] <ahoneybun> the network card is: 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[23:08] <daged> craptalk, usb is supports any filesystem but loader with usb must be universal for each loader like under win or nix systems
[23:09] <craptalk> ahoneybun: you sure you typed it right?
[23:09] <craptalk> auvajs: sudo reboot, you mean?
[23:09] <ahoneybun> craptalk, I have no issue with the same password on Windows (dualboot) or tablet, phone
[23:09] <ahoneybun> everything else works
[23:10] <craptalk> daged: trust me, other than fat32, i failed to do it, it got me error, i was trying it with my windows and ubuntu
[23:10] <auvajs> craptalk: http://i.imgur.com/CZRkXNU.png this is all I have.. lol
[23:10] <craptalk> daged: then i changed to my another usb, it worked
[23:12] <craptalk> auvajs: try to google initramfs error
[23:12] <daged> craptalk, maybe old or broken usb?
[23:12] <daged> hey, guys, wich filesystem better to use at ssd? ext4 or something else?
[23:13] <daged> I think it's better withous journals... right?
[23:13] <craptalk> daged: no, i can use it with other activities except for formatting to that file system
[23:14] <craptalk> daged: i got toshiba brand, and the one which is working is kingston, i read that some of usb drive dont support particular formatting feature
[23:15] <daged> hmm
[23:15] <craptalk> daged: tried it this morning too, and i had to use my kingston
[23:15] <daged> very interesting...
[23:15] <daged> i use only kingston
[23:15] <craptalk> daged: weird tho
[23:15] <daged> and all ok
[23:15] <craptalk> daged: i can use it with all of the purposes, copying, deleting etc, but no formatting
[23:16] <craptalk> daged: well, thats the problem, you should try another, cause i got 2 toshiba with similar issues
[23:16] <craptalk> daged: you can try to google it if you hestitate what i said
[23:17] <daged> i hear you
[23:17] <craptalk> daged: oops sorry, the one is samsung brand, but with the same issue
[23:18] <craptalk> daged: only kingston have been made my day
[23:18] <daged> maybe it depends on memory manufacturer?
[23:18] <daged> inside the usb stick?
[23:18] <ahoneybun> craptalk, very weird that it has no issues seeing the network but it connects to other networks just fine
[23:18] <ahoneybun> so I think the driver can't handle that security type
[23:19] <craptalk> daged: the question is that, is there any feature only to formatting one to another kind of file system? maybe it is manufacturer stuff, but i wonder why
[23:19] <craptalk> ahoneybun: well, you typed the right password?
[23:20] <ahoneybun> yes I'm sure
[23:20] <craptalk> ahoneybun: TKIP, is older tech than WPA2 SK?
[23:21] <daged> craptalk, i have no ideam that's very misunderstood
[23:21] <ahoneybun> not sure tbh craptalk I was about to do a google search on supported types by NetworkManager
[23:21] <craptalk> ahoneybun: it could be
[23:21] <craptalk> ahoneybun: google is better to ask
[23:22] <craptalk> daged: alright, i hope i can get technical answer soon
[23:23] <craptalk> anyone working on github?
[23:23] <SecGuy> Hey all. I'm looking for an ubuntu channel for security discussions.  This one or another?
[23:24] <k1l_> SecGuy: discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discussion
[23:24] <craptalk> SecGuy: ##security
[23:24] <SecGuy> Thanks ...
[23:25] <gallo_mobile> hi all, i'm trying to run two GUI instances of deluge and transmission
[23:25] <k1l_> if its about a security issue on ubuntu file a bug on launchpad and mark it as security bug
[23:27] <MoziM> Hello, I'm trying to use remote desktop to control my ubuntu machine and i find that i can't send the windows key to the ubuntu machine
[23:28] <MoziM> i even changed the remote desktop settings so the windows keys are sent to the remote computer as long as it is the selected window
[23:29] <daged> when I setup the ubuntu with GPT which fs I must use for /boot? ext2 or efi
[23:29] <daged> EriC^^,
[23:29] <Ratty_> I would guess efi
[23:30] <EriC^^> daged: ext2 or ext4
[23:30] <Ratty_> :( I guess wrong
[23:30] <daged> =)
[23:30] <daged> thanks
[23:30] <Ratty_> I suppose grub handles mounting it?
[23:30] <felitrupi> eooo
[23:30] <gallo_mobile> MoziM: what app are you using to remote in?
[23:30] <felitrupi> chupisss
[23:31] <felitrupi> mamonasss
[23:31] <felitrupi> comerme el troncho
[23:31] <k1l_> felitrupi: play somewhere else, please
[23:31] <felitrupi> ?
[23:31] <daged> ok, hope it will be done...
[23:31] <felitrupi> defree
[23:32] <CassioBR> hi
[23:33] <Ratty_> lo
[23:33] <MoziM> gallo_mobile, remote desktop on windows
[23:36] <SCHAAP137> are there any good graphical LVM management tools besides system-config-lvm ?
[23:39] <usr13> I have a 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade and seem to be stuck with console mode.
[23:39] <usr13> Any help with this would be much appreciated.
[23:40] <reisio> console mode?
[23:40] <usr13> reisio: Yep, that's what the man said.
[23:41] <reisio> usr13: man said?
[23:44] <usr13> reisio: Yea, man
[23:44] <daged> it's very very strange!
[23:44] <reisio> what is?
[23:45] <daged> I get new Ubuntu Live USB (msdos fat32), run it, and try to install ubuntu to SSD with GPT
[23:45] <boriseto> Hi, on Ubuntu 14.04, after installing and correctly configuring the fingerprint reader (works great), all the apps that I've configured to run as admin via dash (including installed like unetbootin) won't run (it won't even give me the window to type in the password). It's possible that some window appeared but clicked accidentally on some action before I've read what happened. Can anyone propose a solution to this problem with keeping the fingerprint r
[23:45] <boriseto> eader option?
[23:45] <daged> And got the same error
[23:45] <daged> the installation of ubuntu is freezed
[23:46] <usr13> Let me give you guys a blow blow....
[23:47] <mikeloud> clear
[23:47] <daged> EriC^^, i doing all you say) set the SSD with GPT and choose the ext2 for /boot, but got the same alert about vfat...
[23:48] <daged> There is a log of installation: http://pastebin.com/a8vJxmdU
[23:48] <daged> please check it
[23:49] <usr13> When it gets to login screen, we enter password, and it says:  "System problem error, cancel or report problem." It goes to black screen, with cursor, but cursor goes away.
[23:50] <rexwin_> I followed this article to install wordpress https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-14-04
[23:50] <k1l_> usr13: does the guest account work?
[23:50] <rexwin_> but all I get is apache default page after following all the steps
[23:50] <daged> usr13 I have the same erorr
[23:51] <usr13> k1l_: We will try guest account.
[23:51] <daged> usr13 my unity runs without any tray or window decoration
[23:51] <daged> and the same alert window with CANCEL or REPORT choise
[23:51] <MoziM> has anyone here used windows remote desktop to access their ubuntu machine? i have a problem where my windows key is being sent as right arrow key for some reason...
[23:52] <daged> usr13, i spend a lot of time to recover my ubuntu with unity but... loose.
[23:52] <daged> And now try to reinstall ubuntu
[23:53] <daged> But can't because have another error with installation :)
[23:53] <daged> this's karma
[23:53] <usr13> nomodeset?
[23:53] <usr13>  daged ?
[23:53] <daged> hm
[23:53] <usr13> Trying Guest account....
[23:54] <daged> i don't tried the nomodeset
[23:54] <daged> in boot params(
[23:55] <daged> but I tried all i think... and reinstall compiz gnome xorg nvidia etc...
[23:55] <daged> ubuntu-desktop too... and reset the config of compiz and unity
[23:55] <daged> no chances
[23:56] <mushmouth> daged: mir the future
[23:56] <daged> i hope so
[23:56] <usr13> Guest account does not work either.
[23:56] <daged> unity8
[23:56] <mushmouth> daged: unity8 looks so good
[23:56] <daged> usr13, i tried to create the new user accoutn and run into but fails too
[23:57] <daged> mushmouth, but unity8 is beta is'nt it?
[23:57] <mushmouth> daged: yeah but it already looking promising
[23:57] <mushmouth> like the side bar can now be moved to bottom
[23:57] <mushmouth> im sure other places too
[23:57] <daged> mushmouth, i hope so... because unity7 is cropped( and KDE or Gnome is not my way
[23:57] <punkoivan> ou yeah! :)
[23:57] <punkoivan> Finaly! at 8 version!
[23:57] <mushmouth> daged: yeah i dislike kde and gnome
[23:57] <daged> +1
[23:58] <mushmouth> can i link to a quidsup video?
[23:58] <mushmouth> daged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un6GpHbf7Cg
[23:58] <daged> KDE is really sux, gnome a little bit better, but unity more better))
[23:59] <mushmouth> daged:  i run ubuntu on my server and laptop
[23:59] <punkoivan> yeah, I using Unity with touchscreen - it's realy beautiful.
[23:59] <mushmouth> that the only os i use
[23:59] <punkoivan> But when I need _work_ I switch to Awesome.
[23:59] <mushmouth> awesome for work?
[23:59] <punkoivan> yeah


[00:35] <randomusername> hey wgrant
[00:39] <wgrant> randomusername: Hi.
[00:40] <randomusername> I wish I could say that I'm happy, but I'm watching Ellen on TV
[00:45] <randomusername> anyhow
[00:45] <randomusername> what is up, wgrant?
[00:48] <wgrant> randomusername: So, you need to merge your accounts. But you only have access to the one you want to remove, so we may need an admin to do it.
[00:50] <randomusername> merge accounts and remove the +launchpad from the email, right?
[00:51] <wgrant> Well, you'll need to leave the non-+launchpad email in your account for now.
[00:51] <wgrant> Until we fix the bug.
[00:51] <wgrant> Or the same thing will happen again.
[00:52] <wgrant> But Launchpad only ever sends mail to your primary email address, so everything will be fine if you leave your primary set to the +launchpad address.
[00:53] <randomusername> what would happen if someone sends again a .po file with the trigger email?
[00:54] <wgrant> If you have the address on your main profile: nothing.
[00:54] <wgrant> If you don't: you end up in the situation you're in now.
[01:12] <randomusername> wgrant: do I need to fix a date with an admin to do this procedure?
[01:16] <wgrant> randomusername: I suggest asking at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[01:16] <wgrant> Give your new and old usernames and email addresses, and reference bug 637968.
[01:17] <wgrant> And make sure tiagosilva29 gets merged into tiagosilva, and not the other way around.
[01:18] <randomusername> can't I just email them via launchpad contacts?
[01:18] <randomusername> I don't want to post the emails over there
[01:20] <randomusername> hey, you're australian! no wonder you're up at this time of the night
[01:20] <randomusername> day there
[01:20] <wgrant> OK, omit the email addresses.
[01:21] <wgrant> But use Launchpad Answers, so the admin can verify that it's actually you.
[01:26] <prettyrobots> I just created a  launchpad account but I am unable to change my user name from the default and I am also unable to login into the help forums.
[01:29] <wgrant> prettyrobots: Your first issue is bug #633926
[01:29] <wgrant> prettyrobots: https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit should work OK -- it's running the latest fixed code.
[01:29] <wgrant> prettyrobots: But why can't you log into the help forum?
[01:30] <prettyrobots> wgrant: Thank you.
[01:30] <prettyrobots> Sec.
[01:32] <prettyrobots> wgrant: Okay. Second must have been a network issue.
[01:32] <prettyrobots> I'm able to log in.
[01:32] <prettyrobots> Thank you.
[01:32] <prettyrobots> Log into launchpadhelp, that is. Thank you.
[01:32] <randomusername> wgrant: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/125444
[01:33] <randomusername> I dunno if this is going to help
[01:33] <randomusername> I'm too tired to write properly
[01:34] <wgrant> randomusername: I've added a comment.
[01:37] <wgrant> randomusername: It should be OK now.
[01:37] <wgrant> randomusername: You might have to log out and in again.
[01:38] <randomusername> gonna do that, and sleep
[01:38] <randomusername> thanks for the assistance wgrant, again
[01:38] <wgrant> Great. Sorry it took so long to get sorted out.
[01:38] <randomusername> I will try to meet here again at the same time tomorrow
[01:38] <randomusername> no problem
[01:38] <randomusername> as long as it gets fixed
[01:38] <randomusername> :P
[01:39] <randomusername> good night
[01:39] <wgrant> It should be fixed.
[01:39] <wgrant> Night.
[05:25] <poolie> thumper: i thought i was meant to get incremental diffs when people post more stuff to a mp, but i don't seem to get anything...
[05:26] <thumper> poolie: abentley is working on this now
[05:26] <thumper> poolie: not done yet
[05:27] <poolie> np, just wondered
[07:46] <prayii> Hello. I'm trying to change my name on launchpad from phillip-ray to prayii and I keep getting the error message "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page." when I click save. Any suggestions?
[07:59] <spm> prayii: https://launchpad.net/~prayii <== not sure what was wrong for you, but changed.
[08:05] <prayii> spm: thank you very much. =D
[08:43] <amitprakash> hi.. while compiling desktop agnostic 3.90 i am getting a default/libdesktop-agnostic/DesktopAgnosticVFS-1.0.gir:3:1: error: Unsupported version '1.0' .. how do I resolve this?
[08:53] <bilalakhtar> Ahem, the Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed bug has been marked fix committed and appears to be in edge, but still bugs aren't being auto-closed. Am I seeing it the wrong way or will the fix have to land in production before it gets fixed completely?
[09:41] <jwb_> hi
[09:42] <jwb_> launchpad user "rusivi1" is going all over launchpad and just blindly setting confirmed bugs from confirmed to incomplete with the comment "does this still happen in maverick" or "does this still happen in lucid?"
[09:42] <jwb_> is there any way someone can yank this guy's account and/or roll back his stupidity?
[09:43] <jpds> jwb_: He's in #ubuntu-bugs
[09:44] <jpds> jwb_: Guess it's best to assume good faith.
[09:45] <jwb_> good faith and cluelessness
[09:45] <jwb_> thanks for the tip
[13:19] <gary_poster> doctormo: ping?
[13:20] <fta2> hhm, this build started 3h ago, but it's still showing "started 2min ago": https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta/+build/1960628
[14:38] <fta2> definitely weird, this build is jumping from builder to builder without really building anything: https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta/+build/1960628
[14:43] <fta2> just jumped from fermium to louvi
[14:51] <fta2> poof, another restart, once again on louvi
[14:51] <fta2> :(
[14:53] <StevenK> bigjools: ^ This build is bouncing between buildds
[14:54] <bigjools> StevenK: what does the b-m log say?
[14:54] <StevenK> bigjools: Haven't checked, and I don't want to break my rule :-P
[15:04] <fta2> ahh, it's finally doing something, after ~6h of bouncing around
[15:13] <bigjools> 6 hours?!
[15:15] <bigjools> ok I know what's going on
[16:24] <drubin> What can we do about https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/new-background-ubuntu ? assigning ubuntu members and making mark the drafter?
[16:24] <tgm4883> yea, and why did I get an email about it
[16:25] <nigelb> can somone please mark that as spam
[16:25] <drubin> how?
[16:25] <drubin> because he assigned it to Ubuntumembers
[16:25] <nigelb> drubin: admins
[16:25] <drubin> :)
[16:25] <drubin> there should be report
[16:27] <nigelb> did some kind soul remove the ubuntu members assignment? if so, thanks
[16:28] <nigelb> ok, just FYI, I'm filing a qestion for that spec to be removed as its spam and perhaps warn the user.
[16:28] <tgm4883> I'd say ban
[16:28] <tgm4883> but thats just me
[16:28] <popey> the user only signed up today
[16:28] <popey> so its hardly hardship for them to be warned
[16:28] <popey> newtroll is new
[16:28] <tgm4883> popey, !
[16:28] <popey> tgm4883!
[16:29] <tgm4883> I've been meaning to track you down
[16:29] <drubin> I wasn't suggesting we ban them.  Will I need to have that branch locally out of the main source tree?
[16:37] <nigelb> I suspended the user. We need an admin to clear the description and
[16:37] <nigelb> retarget the spec to obsolete-junk
[16:37] <nigelb> bcurtiswx_: ^^
[16:38] <lucidfox> or actually wait...
[16:38] <lucidfox> I could add debian to .bzrignore and keep a local copy of the branch in the source tree, right?
[16:38] <bcurtiswx_> nigelb: awesome :) muchas gracias.  Back to work for me <sarcasm> woooo </sarcasm>
[16:40]  * sinzui is looking for a losa now to remove the blueprint
[16:40] <nigelb> sinzui: sorry about the muck up with the question, I accidentally closed it :D
[16:40] <nigelb> sinzui: Thank you :)
[16:40] <Myrtti> is there going to be a short explanation about that ^? I'd like to know why on earth did I get that email
[16:41] <Myrtti> in a blog post perhaps :-)
[16:41] <nigelb> Myrtti: someone assigned a blueprint to ubuntu members team, we all got a mail because of that :(
[16:44] <Myrtti> right, I'd still suggest a blogpost about it :-P
[16:44] <nigelb> heh
[16:44] <SpamapS> something horrible going on right now?
[16:44] <nigelb> nah, just a troll
[16:45] <SpamapS> Have gotten oopses for the last few minutes trying to submit a bug
[16:48] <popey> aaand, its gone
[16:48] <nigelb> \o/
[16:49] <nigelb> sinzui: you folks rock :)
[16:55] <fta> bigjools, what was the problem with my build?
[16:55] <lucidfox> What should be the format for debian/changelog for Launchpad bzr daily builds?
[16:56] <lucidfox> or there should be no debian/changelog?
[16:59] <lucidfox> What are stacked branches?
[17:09] <yathish> hi
[17:10] <nigelb> hello
[17:29] <stgraber> ping
[17:29] <stgraber> can someone kill my build on meitnerium
[17:29] <stgraber> it's been sitting in a loop for an hour
[17:47] <geser> stgraber: usually I see someone ping lamont with those requests
[17:54] <stgraber> lamont: ^ https://edge.launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/with-backports/+build/1961068
[17:59] <lucidfox> ...blimey
[17:59] <lucidfox> I accidentally targeted the wrong PPA for manual bzr builds
[18:01] <james_w> lucidfox: because it picks the first in the list?
[18:01] <lucidfox> yes, rather than the one specified for daily builds - I didn't notice and didn't cancel in time
[18:02] <lucidfox> ah well, I have write access to that PPA, I'll just delete the packages
[18:03] <james_w> lucidfox: so if you request a manual build it defaults to where the daily builds go?
[18:03] <lucidfox> no, it defaults to the first one in the list - I think it's counterintuitive
[18:03] <james_w> yes, I would agree
[18:15] <OdyX> Hi. Short question: do the PPA builds get requeued when stalled due to "Dependency-wait" or should I hit the retry build button each time.
[18:15] <OdyX> ?
[18:15] <lamont> stgraber: I assume the build has been superseded?
[18:16] <lamont> stgraber: because otherwise, it'll just try and loop again
[18:27] <stgraber> lamont: I removed it from my PPA and pushed an older package that built just fine
[18:27] <lamont> cool
[18:28] <maxb> OdyX: Yes, PPA packages do get processed by the dependency-wait requeuer. However, it may not always make the right decision, and in any case, it'll be faster to hit retry if you know you've just resolved a dependency issue
[20:42] <rusivi> Can someone from the malone team please review malone bug 638260 for wishlist status?
[20:59] <deryck> rusivi, hi.  I looked at that bug earlier today, commented, and marked it invalid.  Have you since commented and want another review?
[21:00] <deryck> I see.
[21:01] <deryck> rusivi, I think what you're asking for is sort by bug id.  Why?  Bug id doesn't mean oldest.  Some bugs have older dates but more recent bug ids.  You actually care about this distinction?
[21:03]  * nigelb can't particularly visualize a need for it.
[21:03] <deryck> right.
[21:04] <deryck> rusivi, I have to leave, sorry.  But if you explain in the bug why you think bug id sort is needed, I'll consider that and consider changing to wishlist status.
[21:07] <allquixotic_> Hi, is there a way to import a bunch of bugs from a file? Something like maybe a CSV or an openoffice spreadsheet, any common tabulated data format... I find it more tedious to click all the buttons in the launchpad UI than it'd be to whip up a spreadsheet from my old bugtracker and import them en masse to launchpad.
[21:12] <nigelb> allquixotic_: what are you looking for? you could whip up a script or something for it quite easily
[21:13] <allquixotic_> nigelb: What kind of script could I write that would automatically import the bugs to Launchpad? Would I have to literally make it click the buttons in the launchpad UI after parsing the http output, or something? I'll note that I'm using your launchpad.net service, not my own Launchpad instance, and that I'm a paid commercial project on launchpad.net.
[21:13] <allquixotic_> I can already see the code before my eyes for a script to export from my old bugtracker to an OpenOffice ODS, but I have no idea how to go from there to launchpad.
[21:14] <nigelb> err, I'm only a volunteer.
[21:14] <allquixotic_> oh -- sorry :)
[21:14] <maxb> I believe there is some sort of XML format for bulk bug imports
[21:14] <lifeless> there is
[21:14] <lifeless> uhm
[21:14] <lifeless> http://blog.launchpad.net/bug-tracking/launchpads-bug-import-format
[21:15] <lifeless> allquixotic_: ^
[21:15] <allquixotic_> thanks, lifeless :)
[21:15] <allquixotic_> Looks like this will point me in the right direction
[21:17] <james_w> is the owner of the target branch subscribed to merge proposal changes?
[21:19] <lifeless> by default on new branches
[21:24] <james_w> I just got email for the initial proposal (probably by virtue of being a member of the team owning the target branch), and the first comment, but then not the next two comments or the status change when the merge proposal went to Merged
[21:25] <james_w> salgado's idea is that I got the initial because the target branch owner was requested to review, then when the second comment went in asac claimed that review, and so I was no longer asked to review it and didn't get the email
[21:35] <thumper> james_w: any idea why there are no official package branches for apport?
[21:36] <james_w> thumper: because there are non-official ones that are preferred, and having official ones too just confused things
[21:36] <thumper> james_w: but we can mark any sp branch as the main one
[21:36] <james_w> yes
[21:38] <james_w> however, that implies various things, mostly that the importer will try and work with that branch
[21:38] <lifeless> james_w: why haven't the real ones been nominated though?
[21:38] <james_w> which will expose some bugs currently
[21:38] <thumper> hmm...
[21:57] <james_w> thumper: I can make the change right now if you care about the branches and can help with any fallout
[21:59] <lifeless> james_w: only one way to find out about ze issues
[22:00] <james_w> lifeless: yes
[22:00] <james_w> lifeless: but I don't want to give myself more work when I can't keep up with the issues I already have
[22:00] <lifeless> james_w: do we have bugs filed for the issues?
[22:01] <james_w> which issues?
[22:01] <lifeless> rephrasing: is there some sort of progress bar that I can point e.g. poolie at for being able to have apport and similar things have their lp:ubuntu branches *be* the authoritative branches
[22:01] <james_w> no, unfortunately not
[22:01] <james_w> it's a 2 minute change for me to make, within an unknown amount of work following
[22:01] <lifeless> is there a 'next bug to fix' even.
[22:02] <lifeless> james_w: can we roll it back when the problem arises ?
[22:02] <james_w> next bug to fix for what?
[22:02] <james_w> yes, we can just unset the link again
[22:02] <lifeless> james_w: imagine that there is a progress bar. With bugs on it as progress markers.
[22:02] <james_w> right, but we don't have a single progress bar
[22:02] <lifeless> All I really care about is that the next marker - the next bug - is identified and can be pointed at.
[22:03] <james_w> it all depends on which direction you want to go in as to what is next
[22:04] <allquixotic> Hi, I have a commercial project on launchpad.net where I would like to allow the general public to report bugs, while still having the ability for project administrators to mark some bugs as private (only visible to the team). Is this possible? Currently I have some private bzr branches registered on Launchpad, but the bugs instance is fully public and I see no way to mark bugs as private (e.g. security vulns).
[22:05] <lifeless> certainly
[22:05] <lifeless> we just need to permit privat ebugs for that; I think it needs a question filed on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad to enable it
[22:07]  * maxb is glad there's no disk quota on bzr branches
[22:07] <maxb> having just push 850MB of kdebase
[22:08] <lifeless> say what
[22:17] <maxb> hmm, branch scanning is taking a while... maybe because I just pushed 82k revisions :-)
[22:18] <allquixotic> maxb: so THAT'S why my launchpad is running so slow ;)
[22:22] <maxb> oops. I think I really have tarpitted the scanner
[22:26] <soren> maxb: Ah, so it's /your/ fault...
[22:26] <soren> (That's another one off my christmas card list)
[23:07] <lifeless> james_w: well I'm saying we have a clear goal
[23:07] <lifeless> james_w: whichever bug is stopping us using apport 'properly' is the bug to fix next.
[23:07] <lifeless> james_w: if its filed already, lets highlight it.
[23:07] <lifeless> james_w: if its not filed, lets file it.
[23:07] <lifeless> james_w: if to file it we need an experiment, lets do that.
[23:08] <lifeless> james_w: but lets not just sit here without an open bug and without apport configured properly.
[23:09] <poolie> hi there lifeless
[23:14] <james_w> lifeless: I do not know what the bug is to file it
[23:15] <lifeless> james_w: so, we need to try and find out what goes wrong then, agreed ?
[23:15] <lifeless> hi poolie
[23:15] <james_w> yes
[23:24] <lifeless> james_w: lets do that then
[23:38] <herr> hey
[23:38] <herr> whatzuppp
[23:48] <TheMuso> Is it known that upload.ubuntu.com currently gives connectino refused when attempting to connect to it?
[23:48] <tkamppeter> Upload server is broken. On dbut I get [Errno 111] Connection refused.
[23:54] <lifeless> losa poing
[23:54] <Chex> lifeless: hi there, working it now
[23:55] <lifeless> is it the rollout? If so I can file an RT for future improvements
[23:55] <tkamppeter> upload server back working now.
[23:55] <TheMuso> Thanks guys.


[16:05] <blackboxsw> smoser: pushed my functional code to https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+ref/feature/os-local  I had to back out some wip stuff. tested on serverstack. I'm thinking of moving the fallback_nic property up to base Datasource and adding some additional error checking on metadata type
[16:30] <blackboxsw> aaaahhhhh :)
[16:30] <blackboxsw> analyze.local:Total Time: 7.48900 seconds
[16:30] <blackboxsw> analyze.net:Total Time: 17.32100 seconds
[16:30] <blackboxsw> 10 second saved  on openstack boots :)
[16:46] <rharper> \o/
[17:29] <mgerdts> it seems as though the most important of my fixes landed a day too late to be included in the latest xenial and artful packages, at least according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init.  When is the next chance for them to be picked up?
[17:31] <blackboxsw> mgerdts: sorry that was a 2 week process for the SRU xenial/artful. we'll probably be handling another sru within a month as we'll be publishing more content into Bionic too I imagine
[17:32] <blackboxsw> and we'll have to SRU into bionic too at that point
[17:32] <mgerdts> ok.  Will artful get another update?  Or will it be sufficiently aged by then that it's no longer supported?
[17:33] <smoser> mgerdts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[17:33] <smoser> artful will go EOL in July.
[17:33] <blackboxsw> smoser: rharper can you confirm. I thought there would be a window for a while where xenial, artful and bionic are all SRU'd to.
[17:33] <blackboxsw> thanks smoser
[17:33] <blackboxsw> yep
[17:34] <smoser> per /usr/share/distro-info/ubuntu.csv 2018-07-19
[17:34] <dpb1> once bionic is out, artful is not very interesting.
[17:34] <dpb1> (that's our general experience)
[17:34] <smoser> dpb1: but stable release update process requires you to do the srus there also
[17:34] <dpb1> yes, I understand
[17:35] <smoser> blackboxsw: http://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/cloud-init have a minute ?
[17:36] <rharper> % distro-info -y --days=eol --all -r  | grep -v -- -
[17:36] <rharper> 14.04 LTS 359
[17:36] <rharper> 16.04 LTS 1094
[17:36] <rharper> 17.10 87
[17:36] <rharper> 18.04 LTS 1829
[17:36] <rharper>
[17:36] <rharper> fancy
[17:37] <mgerdts> Oh, once I finally mapped out the release names in my head you show me something that has release numbers.  :)
[17:37] <rharper> hehe
[17:38] <rharper> % distro-info -y --days=eol --all -f  | grep -v -- -
[17:38] <rharper> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" 359
[17:38] <rharper> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS "Xenial Xerus" 1094
[17:38] <rharper> Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" 87
[17:38] <rharper> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" 1829
[17:38] <mgerdts> :)
[17:38]  * rharper adds a new tool to the chest
[17:39] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1766302
[17:39] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1766302 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "netdev_pformat does not show unconfigured devices" [Undecided,New]
[17:39] <mgerdts> Is this one expected to be in the GA build of bionic? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/18.2-14-g6d48d265-0ubuntu1
[17:40] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BmkH37g9qf/
[18:04] <blackboxsw> mgerdts: yep. that's in :   rmadison cloud-init tells you the released versions of a pkg
[18:04] <blackboxsw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/35zrnQPZCY/
[18:05] <mgerdts> thanks
[18:05] <blackboxsw> no problem, it's in devscripts deb if you a frequent need for rmadison find you need
[18:06] <blackboxsw> sorry, typo-central.
[18:08] <blackboxsw> n
[18:22] <dpb1> o.O
[18:42] <jocha> Hi @bloackboxsw, I'm Josh a new dev from Azure. I was wondering if you could take a look at my merge request : https://code.launchpad.net/~jocha/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/343563 :)
[18:43] <blackboxsw> welcome jocha. sure can look it over today
[18:44] <blackboxsw> was in a bit of an Ubuntu-release mode last week, will get through some reviews
[18:45] <jocha> awesome! Thanks!
[19:42] <philroche> Is `cloud-init collect-logs` expected to work when run inside a chroot? I get the following errors https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/wRvgGZ6HnR/
[19:44] <blackboxsw> interesting philroche, hadn't tried that use-case. I presume it doesn't given that your chroot's rundir would be different.
[19:44] <blackboxsw> I think it's worth a bug...
[19:44] <blackboxsw> here's what it tries to grab for you
[19:44] <philroche> blackboxsw: ack
[19:44] <blackboxsw> http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/capabilities.html#cloud-init-collect-logs
[19:45] <philroche> blackboxsw: That's the exact link I was looking for :)
[19:45] <blackboxsw> I'll take off my mind-reading glasses now to save them for a better time
[19:47] <philroche> :)
[19:59] <philroche> blackboxsw: Bug filed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1766335
[19:59] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1766335 in cloud-init "Running cloud-init collect-logs inside a chroot is not possible" [Undecided,New]
[19:59] <blackboxsw> thank you sir
[20:01] <blackboxsw> philroche: frequently I like to see /run/cloud-init/instance-data.json as it tells us what the datasource gives us as far as metadata and userdata etc. but judging from your chroot, that no longer exists.
[20:02] <philroche> blackboxsw: Yes, that no longer exists
[20:03] <smoser> blackboxsw: well thats on /run which is memory only.
[20:03] <blackboxsw> bummer, ok. I'll work on making collect-logs more resilient in a chroot today/tomorrow. So at least we can collect some remnant of the files around
[20:04] <blackboxsw> smoser right, but we also have symlinks to files that should still exist, which we could pull, like status.json -> ../../var/lib/cloud/data/status.json  and result.json. But, cloud-init.log and journalctl would give us the content of those files at least.
[20:33] <mgerdts> Is there any special way that I should poke redhat or others to get my fixes into rhel 7 and/or centos 7?
[20:51] <blackboxsw> mgerdts: not sure, we might have representatives in next week's #cloud-init status meeting on Monday per topic in this IRC channel. larsks (IRC nick) might have info on where to start if he joins in .
[20:52] <mgerdts> ok, thanks.  What time is that meeting at?
[20:52] <blackboxsw>  Monday 4/23 16:00 UTC
[20:52] <mgerdts> thanks
[20:52] <blackboxsw> oops
[20:52] <blackboxsw> 4/30 :0
[20:52] <mgerdts> yeah. :)
[20:53] <blackboxsw> I mis-set the date this morning :/
[20:53] <blackboxsw> #topic #cloud-init  Reviews: http://bit.ly/ci-reviews | Meeting minutes: https://goo.gl/mrHdaj | Next status meeting: Monday 4/30 16:00 UTC | cloud-init 18.2 released (03/28/2018)
[20:53] <blackboxsw> ok fixed
[22:17] <blackboxsw> rharper: looks like we call it fallback_nic twice : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zMkBd8hWbW
[22:18]  * blackboxsw creates a bootable image from this
[22:23] <rharper> interesting


[18:40] <pigy> hi all
[18:40] <pigy> want to install in mac power pc, is it possible
[18:41] <pigy> i dl image from main site, but having issues.
[18:41] <pigy> not sure if this can even install on power pc