[14:48] <Gentoo64> yea it is
[14:48] <Muphrid> stonedmanworking, i think the package name if default-jre
[14:48] <Gentoo64> not sure about installing to a usb
[14:48] <Muphrid> is*
[14:48] <aarossig> Will notifications in irssi work over an ssh connection? (like this but with irssi running remotely: http://www.codealpha.net/215/script-irssi-ubuntu-notify-osd-notification-system/)
[14:49] <stonedmanworking> thankyou <Muphrid> i'm on it, bu honestly i need the real basic step by step
[14:49] <stonedmanworking> thankyou Muphrid i'm on it, bu honestly i need the real basic step by step
[14:49] <RB2_> Good Morning... is there a way to force ubuntu to use TCP for DNS lookups? I've been through the resolv.conf man pages, etc.. but no luck getting it to work.
[14:49] <Muphrid> stonedmanworking, open synaptic package manager, then search for default-jre, then install the package
[14:50] <ShapeShifter499> Gentoo64, I want to use the os like I would if I installed it but since I'm strapped for space be able to install the "extras" on my main computer and only use those extras when the usb is pluged into the main computer
[14:50] <RB2_> Using dig (with +tcp), everything goes fine. But, nslookup always fails.
[14:50] <stonedmanworking> you will laugh at me now... the fact is i have no idea on how to proceed for even a basic installation... 17 years as windows user didn't help me to deal with the linux terminal :(
[14:51] <Muphrid> stonedmanworking, on the terminal type sudo apt-get install default-jre
[14:51] <Gentoo64> stonedmanworking: to install things you use apt-get install
[14:51] <tp_eddy> stonedmanworking, I think you can input "sudo apt-get install java", Just like orher Linux based on Debian
[14:52] <stonedmanworking> seems working
[14:52] <Gentoo64> ShapeShifter499: so install the extras to a usb?
[14:52] <Gentoo64> im confused
[14:52] <stonedmanworking> actually downloading packages
[14:52] <ShapeShifter499> Gentoo64, no
[14:53] <Gentoo64> stonedmanworking: or in the software center, type java and stuff should come up
[14:53] <ShapeShifter499> Gentoo64, the operating system is on the usb, but anything that wouldn't be installed as a default of the os be on my computer
[14:53] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[14:53] <xulli> As some of you know the X11 has PRIMARY, SECONDARY and CLIPBOARD. It's easy to access the clipboard through for instance java.awt.datatransfer.Clipboard, but do you guys know any way to get the current PRIMARY with some Java API?
[14:54] <XO> Are here german channel too?
[14:54] <Gentoo64> youd prob need to mount the real hdd in fstab as some data partition
[14:54] <stonedmanworking> ty Gentoo, actually trying to install throught the sudo apt-get install default-jre line and it seems all ok, it's @37%
[14:54] <conkiglia> ciao
[14:54] <ShapeShifter499> Gentoo64, the problem I think there might be is that the operating system would fail if I tried to run it on another computer
[14:54] <conkiglia> !list
[14:54] <Gentoo64> list
[14:54] <Gentoo64> ah you beat me to it
[14:54] <CarlFK> XO: try #ubuntu-de
[14:55] <XO> thanks
[14:55] <conkiglia> chi mi puo' aiutare
[14:56] <captain_alex> hi2all
[14:56] <ShapeShifter499> !fr
[14:56] <ShapeShifter499> conkiglia, !fr
[14:57] <captain_alex> please advice how i can uninstall xubuntu from drive D: and leave ubuntu on C:?
[14:57] <Gentoo64> ShapeShifter499: it should be ok
[14:57] <Gentoo64> ShapeShifter499: its not like windows
[14:57] <proxx> captain_alex c: d: ?? lol , this is not windows
[14:58] <ShapeShifter499> Gentoo64, but wouldn't the os have issues if I installed something that was more system wide?
[14:58] <captain_alex> i undestand, i mean logical drives
[14:58] <Muphrid> captain_alex, do you have ubuntu and xubuntu in dual boot and wanna leave only ubuntu?
[14:58] <proxx> captain_alex what are you trying to do , not very clear
[14:59] <ShapeShifter499> Gentoo64, when I unplug the usb for another comp temporary it won't run right?
[14:59] <Gentoo64> ShapeShifter499: im too tired and im getting confused :s if you're low on disk space then it can get confusing mounting certain partitions in fstab for certain folders
[14:59] <captain_alex> muphrid: yes!
[14:59] <Muphrid> captain_alex, install gparted if not installed, then open it and format the xubuntu partition
[14:59] <captain_alex> How to uninstall it correctly
[14:59] <Gentoo64> ShapeShifter499: if its installed to the usb, it wont work no
[15:00] <captain_alex> and how to remove it from dualboot
[15:00] <proxx> captain_alex , recap? you have 2 installations ? and want to remove 1 ?
[15:00] <Gentoo64> captain_alex: delete the ubuntu partition, extend the space then reinstall windowsd botloader
[15:00] <captain_alex> nono
[15:00] <captain_alex> i have ubntu and xubuntu
[15:01] <proxx> captain_alex     on 2 partitions ?
[15:01] <captain_alex> and just whant to uninstall ubuntu and remove it from the dualboot
[15:01] <captain_alex> uninstall xubuntu sorry
[15:01] <Gentoo64> you have to delete the partition
[15:02] <Gentoo64> you dont uninstall it like an app
[15:02] <aking1012> capt_alex - make sure your grub files are inside of your ubuntu install first
[15:02] <captain_alex> yes, ubuntu is firstsystem
[15:03] <captain_alex> but how to remove it from the grub (to rstore its state without xubuntu?)
[15:03] <Gentoo64> captain_alex: it should still work
[15:03] <proxx> captain_alex ,  remove partition, update-grub
[15:03] <aking1012> yup
[15:03] <captain_alex> sudo update-grub?
[15:03] <proxx> update-grub will build the grub.cfg
[15:04] <proxx> yes
[15:04] <captain_alex> so easy thanks a lot to everybody!
[15:04] <proxx> :)
[15:04] <captain_alex> going to try
[15:04] <glda19> how can i share directories on a bubuntu network
[15:05] <proxx> to windows boxes ?
[15:05] <glda19> proxx, is that question for me
[15:05] <Muphrid> glda19, right click the files, click on sharing options and it will install samba then share the directory across the network
[15:05] <private_meta> You all just lost The Game!
[15:06] <proxx> glda19   *nix >> windows or *nix >> *nix ?
[15:06] <glda19> Muphrid, is samba the only to share files
[15:06] <glda19> proxx, ubuntu ubuntu
[15:06] <Muphrid> glda19, the only one i know of
[15:07] <proxx> glda19  oke you could use nfsmount for that
[15:07] <proxx> or go for share over ssh
[15:08] <proxx> glda19 should be plenty of documentation, its far easier than it seems at first, i promise
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> vote for kde http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2011/10/10/help-kde-e-v-secure-funding-for-a-sprint-with-just-a-few-clicks/
[15:09] <glda19> proxx, for ubuntu and windows samba and ubuntu  ubuntu nfs mout ssh share
[15:09] <proxx> glda19 indeed
[15:10] <glda19> proxx thanks
[15:10] <proxx> glda19    easy way: setup an ssh server ., use the mount server option from locations ,
[15:11] <tp_eddy> ssh very easy
[15:11] <proxx> glda19 after thats confirmed you can go and add it to fstab etc etc, google it ;)
[15:11] <compdoc> glda19, for samba and vista, go here and read the 3rd post:    http://forums.techarena.in/windows-vista-network/670498.htm
[15:12] <richpk21> o
[15:12] <richpk21> y
[15:12] <alnit> Hello everyone. I have installer kubuntu and my graphic card fan goes on max rpm and i dont find any rogram to set rpm, i dont want to install atis own drivers because it screwd my computer totalt and there wasnt even a fan kontroller in it, anyone have any tip? i realy prefer a graphic interface
[15:12] <glda19> proxx,  so i have to setup the ssh server on evry pc
[15:13] <proxx> giu method; go to places
[15:13] <proxx> connect to server
[15:14] <proxx> glda19 select ssh , youll find it
[15:14] <glda19> proxx, i have to installed the ssh server on all the pc's
[15:14] <proxx> yeah
[15:14] <proxx> glda19 "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[15:15] <glda19> that i have to do on all the ubutu pc's
[15:15] <tp_eddy> install ssh server on Linux, and you can use putty or winscp connect it on windows
[15:15] <proxx> glda19 , yes you do
[15:15] <craigbass1976> I'm tryign to print to a dell laser, and I can't find the driver on Dell's site.  Can I somehow snag it off another box that already prints to it?
[15:16] <ct529> hi! I am trying to compile the kernel, but 1) I am not certain about the numbering of the ubuntu kernel: does it follow the numbering of the kernel? 2) is it possible to compile the kernel by using the output of cpuid, or /proc/cpuinfo?
[15:16] <glda19> proxx,  what is the best for  2 ubuntu pc's and 2 windows pc's i think samba
[15:17] <_calum> does anyone have an idea of how long dd will take to zero fill a 2.0GB usb flash drive?
[15:17] <proxx> glda19 then i hate to say , but its samba
[15:17] <proxx> glda19: i hate samba but it does work
[15:17] <glda19> thnx proxx
[15:17] <genii-around> _calum: Probably around 20 minutes
[15:18] <proxx> glda19, be carefull what you do, its easy to screw up
[15:18] <glda19> thnx
[15:18] <_calum> thanks genii, by the way do I do dd if=/dev/zero for a zero fill?
[15:18] <proxx> glda19: your welcome
[15:18] <genii-around> _calum: Yep
[15:18] <_calum> alright cheers :)
[15:18] <glda19> who use thunderbird
[15:19] <craigbass1976> glda19, I do.
[15:19] <glda19> craigbass1976, how can i upgrade to tb 8
[15:20] <LogicallyDashing> my machine keeps starting, like, four fuser processes at a time and locking up the CPU very briefly. It's causing problems whenever I want to fork something. How do I find out what's calling these things? I've turned off the apache server...
[15:21] <craigbass1976> glda19, 8?  I'm on 3.  No idea...
[15:21] <glda19>  how can i upgrade to tb 8 by ppa
[15:22] <proxx> glda19; compile it from source :P ?
[15:23] <proxx> glda19 search google for a PPA
[15:23] <glda19> proxx, i can't find a ppa for tb 8
[15:23] <proxx> glda19; build it from source ;)
[15:24] <glda19> proxx, tb8 is out and compiled for linux
[15:24] <proxx> glda19 search for a .deb file , also possible, bit dirty but you can
[15:25] <watermark> As the PHP 5.2.x branch is no longer supported by PHP, has anyone heard of what this will mean for Ubuntu server 8.04?
[15:25] <magooster> hello i have a problem if anyone can help
[15:26] <proxx> magooster; go ahead
[15:26] <magooster> well to start with i'm not sure if it's a graphics issue or a wine issue
[15:27] <proxx> magooster; oke can you run 'glxgears' from the terminal ?
[15:27] <magooster> but I'm thinking it's a wine issue because it seems to run the game fine
[15:27] <magooster> i can try, one second
[15:28] <proxx> magooster; pretty isnt it, if it works at good framerate, than you have acceleration , and your graphicp probably work fine ;)
[15:28] <magooster> k i got it
[15:28] <Paddy_NI> Hey I am having something of an annoying bug with gedit.. when I type out an html tag and press tab to autocomplete it, it adds another bracket at the beginning of the tag... for example I would start typing <body'Pressing tab here' and it will autocomplete like this <<body id="ID " onload=""}> what is going on?
[15:28] <magooster> Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
[15:28] <magooster> approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
[15:28] <Mavrik> hmm, is there any reason Empathy isn't able to connect to MSN network for awhile now?
[15:28] <magooster> 304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.750 FPS
[15:29] <Paddy_NI> why the extra < at the beginning
[15:29] <magooster> 312 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.350 FPS
[15:29] <glda19> thx every one for the help
[15:29] <FloodBot1> magooster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:29] <magooster> 311 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.150 FPS
[15:29] <magooster> 313 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.548 FPS
[15:29] <proxx> magooster; should be good, your graphics work fine, go to wine irc channel for support
[15:30] <proxx> glda19 welcome m8
[15:30] <magooster> how do i get to wine irc?
[15:30] <magooster> sorry, i'm a noob ubuntu user
[15:30] <genii-around> !wine
[15:30] <proxx> magooster dunno think its, #winehq but iam not sure, google it
[15:30] <magooster> <~~~~former windows 7 user
[15:30] <tp_eddy> google search
[15:31] <proxx> magooster; good luck
[15:31] <Paddy_NI> Hey genii-around would you have any ideas why I am experiencing that annoying gedit bug... or if its normal behaviour?
[15:32] <mfilipe> how do I do to find out what is the package that has a file? for example: what is the package that has /etc/issue?
[15:32] <LogicallyDashing> I have several apache2 processes running at once, is this normal?
[15:32] <LogicallyDashing> (not actually running, mostly suspended)
[15:33] <magooster> is there an irc channel for wine?
[15:33] <Paddy_NI> yes
[15:33] <kell18> 18/f i'm so wet and horny...hit me up at http://xxxfever.info username wildnout14
[15:33] <proxx> ow yeah
[15:33] <magooster> #winehq is this it?
[15:33] <kell18> 18/f i'm so wet and horny...hit me up at http://xxxfever.info username wildnout14
[15:33] <geoffmcc> magooster: have you checked to see if what you are trying to run will work with playonlinux? playonlinux usually handles all the wine config for you
[15:33] <proxx> magooster probably, google can help you really
[15:34] <kell18> 18/f i'm so wet and horny...hit me up at http://xxxfever.info username wildnout14
[15:34] <Paddy_NI> Umm.. ops
[15:34] <kell18> 18/f i'm so wet and horny...hit me up at http://xxxfever.info username wildnout14
[15:34] <magooster> ok one last question then i'm out of your hair LOL
[15:34] <proxx> kell18 me too :) iam also horny
[15:34] <Skummel> hmm, where is thorse ops when you need them :)
[15:34] <Paddy_NI> yeah
[15:34] <kell18> 18/f i'm so wet and horny...hit me up at http://xxxfever.info username wildnout14
[15:34] <kell18> 18/f i'm so wet and horny...hit me up at http://xxxfever.info username wildnout14
[15:35] <proxx> magooster; go ahead
[15:35] <kell18> 18/f i'm so wet and horny...hit me up at http://xxxfever.info username wildnout14
[15:35] <magooster> i have an intel family chipset video card where would i go to find drivers for it?
[15:35] <roland> Is there any simple way to create aligned partition on a SSD?
[15:36] <proxx> magooster; you ran glxgears right ?
[15:36] <magooster> yes
[15:36] <compdoc> roland, use gparted
[15:36] <proxx> magooster; at that framerate, it is already running
[15:36] <proxx> magooster; dont have 2 do anything :)
[15:36] <compdoc> roland, not that a small device like that needs alignment
[15:36] <tp_eddy> who can tell me where can i find a red theme for ubuntu
[15:36] <magooster> ubuntu is awesome bu so confusing
[15:36] <roland> compdoc: why not?
[15:37] <vatzec> Why does "sudo route add default gw ipAddressHere" result in "SIOCADDRT: No such process" in Ubuntu?
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> tp_eddy: murrina red
[15:37] <roland> compdoc: there are contradicting opinions everywhere
[15:37] <proxx> magooster; youll learn over time, trust me , i was noob once 2, just take the ride :)
[15:37] <tp_eddy> thx
[15:37] <compdoc> roland, its for advanced format, 4k sector drives, which are usually 1TB and larger
[15:38] <aking1012> lolz @proxx statement
[15:38] <proxx> ;)
[15:38] <magooster> ok thanks everyone, have a great day :)
[15:38] <proxx> u2 sir
[15:38] <compdoc> roland, but gparted starts the partition at the correct location for alingment
[15:39] <compdoc> (sp)
[15:39] <roland> compdoc: then why all the forums say to create the partition as aligned?
[15:39] <roland> compdoc: I talking about SSD's
[15:39] <compdoc> you should, if its an advanced format drive
[15:40] <roland> compdoc: how do I know if it is an advanced format drive?
[15:40] <roland> crucial m4
[15:40] <vatzec> How to change the default route in Ubuntu?
[15:40] <iceroot> vatzec: sudo route add default gw IP
[15:41] <vatzec> But it says "SIOCADDRT: No such process" when I do it :(
[15:41] <vatzec> I can "del" the automatically detected by nm-applet route though.
[15:41] <aking1012> vatzec, are you trying to add a gw not in your routing table?
[15:41] <vatzec> Yes
[15:41] <aking1012> that MIGHT do it
[15:41] <go8765> Hello. How I can start manage mouse moving by keyboard in xfce?
[15:42] <AlexJ> do you know if there is a place from where I can get the .config file uppon which the current ubuntu kernel was built?
[15:42] <vatzec> aking1012: Oh. So I have to add the gw first, as a hot?
[15:42] <vatzec> s/hot/host/?
[15:45] <compdoc> roland, when a partition starts at sector 2048, which is what gparted does automattically now, its aligned
[15:45] <zaxonspox> hello, got problem - Ubu refuses to connect to one WiFi AP, which is secured WPA & WPA2, without MAC filtering
[15:45] <proxx> zaxonspox; can you connect to other AP's , can you connect with encryption off ?
[15:46] <roland> compdoc: what I meant was, why do you think SSD doesn't need alignment when most of the internet seems to think otherwize?
[15:46] <compdoc> roland, some ppl think SSD needs it
[15:46] <maxxx> hi
[15:46] <_calum> hey guys, sorry I forgot something. In Ubuntu 11.10 how can I mark a flash drive as bootable?
[15:47] <proxx> gparted
[15:47] <proxx> set flags
[15:47] <_calum> thanks proxx
[15:47] <zaxonspox> proxx, i can connect to my home AP (WPA2 and MAC filt.), but here a cant even connect with encription off
[15:47] <compdoc> roland, it certainly wont hurt it to do so
[15:47] <tp_eddy> syslinux
[15:48] <proxx> zaxonspox; But can you connect  to it in ubuntu , when you turn the encryption off ?
[15:49] <zaxonspox> proxx negative, did tried that
[15:49] <proxx> zaxonspox, oke  and can you connect to other APs ?
[15:49] <maxxx> :))
[15:50] <zaxonspox> proxx yes, here to others AP, or in my home, to my AP
[15:51] <proxx> zaxonspox; thats funny, it could be that your driver is an idiot
[15:51] <proxx> zaxonspox; iam by no means an expert, just to state that, what chipset do you have?
[15:52] <zaxonspox> proxx can it be some AP conf issue? The security mode is WPA2 Pers., WPA alg. is AES
[15:53] <roland> compdoc: so when creating the partition I should select "align to MiB" ?
[15:53] <proxx> zaxonspox; thats indeed possible, than again, if you can connect to other AP's with the same encryption, than its funny
[15:53] <zaxonspox> proxx Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY, the AP is set to 11b/g/n Mixed Mode
[15:53] <maxxx> zaxonspox, to configure wpa/wpa2 require lot of lunix skills i don't think so you will be able to configure that..
[15:53] <compdoc> roland, you might have to disable that bit - been a few months since Ive done it. try it either way and see what happens
[15:54] <compdoc> roland, what OS you using?
[15:54] <roland> kubuntu
[15:54] <compdoc> version?
[15:54] <proxx> zaxonspox, have you installed it through "device-drivers" ?
[15:54] <zaxonspox> maxxx what configuration?
[15:54] <roland> sry. 11.10
[15:54] <jason00> Odd question for somebody on a desktop with Ubuntu - if you go into system settings and then hit screen, can you adjust the brightness for your desktop monitor just like you can for a laptop? Is it all in the same?
[15:54] <compdoc> cool
[15:54] <compdoc> roland, the partition will start at 2048 when its right
[15:55] <proxx> zaxonspox; broadcom does require proprietary drivers iirc
[15:55] <maxxx> zaxonspox, simply taking beating from ubuntu stick to wep when you want to connect..:))
[15:56] <zaxonspox> proxx i did some circus magic to make it work (little long storry), probably using package "firmware-b43-lpphy-installer"
[15:56] <proxx> maxxx; lol are you serious, do you have any clue to how unsafe that is, my 80 year old grandma can p0wn that
[15:56] <bubu> 15 03 * * * root mysqldump --add-drop-table --single-transaction --all-databases -u blablabla -pblablabla databaseip << can anyone shed any light as to why this cronjob isnt working?
[15:56] <turboneat> Gentlemen. I'm running 11.10 and I want to add a Win7 boot, however I'm afraid that Windows will doodoo on my MBR. What's the best course of action?
[15:57] <llutz> maxxx: you don't know what you're talking about
[15:57] <proxx> zaxonspox; its probably driver related, it sucks, hard to support a  some wifi card from here sorry
[15:57] <maxxx> simply ask the session if any one has configured wpa/wpa2 to get in this chat
[15:58] <llutz> maxxx: i have, your question is?
[15:58] <proxx> maxxx; dont wanna flame you but works perfectly fine with the right card, never mind
[15:58] <maxxx> please let me know the cli how is wpa is configured then
[15:59] <geoffmcc> zaxonspox: i am not using it now, but have with no isses. i also have broadcom. i use the firmware-b43-installer though, not the lpphy one
[15:59] <nbubuntu> Hi anyone know any website copier and able to view offline ?
[16:00] <zaxonspox> proxx if AP is set to 11b/g/n Mixed Mode it should then support 11b/g network card?
[16:00] <proxx> zaxonspox; it should yes
[16:00] <renan_saddam> In https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW, it says: "ufw deny from <ip address> to <protocol> port <port number>", but if I do "ufw deny from <IP_ADDRESS> to tcp port 123" it says "Bad destination address". What am I missing on it?
[16:01] <dzoni_> how to change distro name(i need that to pass installation of ati driver)
[16:01] <zaxonspox> geoffmcc, i did try many ways of make my BCM running,b and only package i told you, have been accepted by system and network card
[16:01] <proxx> zaxonspox; you could also use another workaround, isnt safe either, but use macfiltering only, than again, my 80 year old grandma can p0wn that aswell
[16:01] <maxxx> i would rather say wpa/wap2 is mistery in linux world..simply not for new users..only for professional simply want to bang their head and then configure it.
[16:01] <bubu> ls
[16:02] <llutz> maxxx: read this, works fine if your card/driver supports wpa(2) as most actual cards should do. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[16:02] <zaxonspox> proxx, when i tried to connect dmesg said: [ 2243.308075] wlan0: authenticate with c8:3a:35:1b:c8:10 (try 3)
[16:02] <zaxonspox> [ 2243.508077] wlan0: authentication with c8:3a:35:1b:c8:10 timed out
[16:02] <llutz> maxxx: just don't forget to disable/remove nm
[16:02] <dzoni_> how to change distro name(i need that to pass installation of ati driver)?
[16:02] <Sh4dowcat> I have a really weird problem
[16:02] <tp_eddy> wlan0?
[16:02] <Sh4dowcat> I have 11.10 installed, and the system is not detecting all my ram
[16:03] <proxx> zaxonspox; any other idea, try wicd for a sec, to be sure that nm-applet isnt fooling you around
[16:03] <Sh4dowcat> it's detecting approximately 5.6 GB of 8 GB
[16:03] <spartan2276> Does anyone know how to get your Flat panel recognize by the color manager in 11.10?
[16:03] <zaxonspox> proxx wicd? what is that?
[16:04] <proxx> zaxonspox;     an application for wireless better than nm IMO
[16:04] <geoffmcc> renan_saddam: sudo ufw deny 123
[16:04] <tp_eddy> wicd is a tool for using net
[16:05] <maxxx> i guess no one told me the cli wpa..confi..through cli
[16:05] <AbstractBeliefs> whats the best way to truly empty a hard drive (tried a reformat, with windows, and its re-inserted 119MB of data ._.)
[16:05] <llutz> maxxx: i guess you are a troll to lazy to read and follow instructions
[16:05] <zaxonspox> tp_eddy, why were you asking of wlan0 ?
[16:05] <maxxx> i know you are going to say that :))
[16:06] <spartan2276> maxxx: yeah that is really going to get non-tech users to out camp, good going sir
[16:06] <spartan2276> *our
[16:06] <maxxx> if really wanted to do that i know how to do it
[16:07] <zaxonspox> proxx, Starting Network connection manager wicd                              [fail]
[16:07] <compdoc> what do you install in 11.10 to get the classic desktop?
[16:07] <Jordan_U> !notunity | compdoc
[16:07] <proxx> zaxonspox; that sucks, have you killed nm ?
[16:07] <spartan2276> maxxx: oops sorry that was meant for LLUTZ
[16:07] <maxxx> zaxonspox,  lspci-v  can you paste the output
[16:07] <compdoc> ty
[16:08] <llutz> spartan2276: those users should stick with nm/wicd
[16:08] <odla> hi, how can i install gnome3.2 in 11.10?
[16:08] <tp_eddy> zaxonspox, nothing I'm wrong
[16:08] <zaxonspox> maxx output is long, some pastebin?
[16:08] <maxxx> zaxonspox, did you try modprobe
[16:09] <zaxonspox> proxx, did not, can i stop it, or need i kill it, and then start manually, when i need to
[16:09] <roland> compdoc: I think it worked, but I had to specify "align to MiB" and not gparted's info says: first sector 2048
[16:09] <spartan2276> llutz: no you tard you are the one whom should find another distro with folks at the level of your superior intellect. Its Ubuntu this channel are for those whom are not tech savy
[16:09] <maxxx> zaxonspox, paste the output and link to session
[16:10] <maxxx> zaxonspox, !paste
[16:10] <proxx> zaxonspox; no you can kill it
[16:10] <spartan2276> Does anyone know how to get your Flat panel recognize by the color manager in 11.10?
[16:11] <odla> is there a way to get back to gnome and not unity? it's horrible but I would love to stay with ubuntu ... anyone?
[16:11] <bubu> 15 03 * * * root mysqldump --add-drop-table --single-transaction --all-databases -u blablabla -pblablabla databaseip << can anyone shed any light as to why this cronjob isnt working?
[16:12] <zaxonspox> maxx http://pastebin.com/Sy26f0ES
[16:13] <zaxonspox> proxx, killed, what now? how to start it?
[16:13] <geoffmcc> !notunity |odla
[16:13] <zaxonspox> proxx the wicd
[16:13] <proxx> zaxonspox; Wicd ? from the menu
[16:13] <proxx> zaxonspox >>internet>>wicd i think
[16:14] <zaxonspox> proxx, got it, what next?
[16:14] <tp_eddy> yes in the internet
[16:14] <proxx> zaxonspox, can you connect to your AP with that
[16:15] <tp_eddy> I think wicd is not good  for wireless
[16:15] <zaxonspox> proxx "No wifi detected"
[16:15] <renan_saddam> geoffmcc: was trying to do in a specific protocol. Documentation is wrong.
[16:15] <geoffmcc> renan_saddam: sudo ufw deny 123/tcp (or udp)
[16:15] <proxx> zaxonspox; oke nevermind, not going to debug that, it was just an idea to make sure , Nm-applet wasnt fooling you
[16:16] <renan_saddam> geoffmcc: when using from/to, it becames: "sudo ufw <action> from <ip> to <ip> port <port> proto <protocol>
[16:16] <proxx> zaxonspox; I gtg , maybe someone else can help this fellow ?
[16:17] <zaxonspox> proxx, no problem, thx for your time
[16:17] <geoffmcc> renan_saddam: i guess i read your post wrong. i thought u were using <IP_ADDRESS> as an address so i figured you were trying to block the port completly
[16:17] <proxx> zaxonspox; welcome
[16:18] <jason00> Odd question for somebody on a desktop with Ubuntu - if you go into system settings and then hit screen, can you adjust the brightness for your desktop monitor just like you can for a laptop? Is it all in the same?
[16:18] <sethetter> is there any major downsides to dual booting ubuntu 10.04lts instead of 11.1 on a macbook??
[16:18] <sethetter> i tried 11, realized the partion tables don't interact correctly, and now i'm working towards 10.04lts
[16:19] <ccmonster> any suggested tweaks to make to gnome shell?
[16:19] <Muphrid> jason00, it does not show that option on a desktop
[16:19] <DemoOn> How can i access windows xp registry?
[16:20] <KrisDouglas> DemoOn, how do you mean?
[16:20] <Jonii> Anyone know how to make my (Nokia) phone into a modem for my ubuntu netbook?
[16:20] <zaxonspox> jason00 the brightness options i saw only with proprietary diveres from nVidia or ATI
[16:20] <jason00> Muphrid: okay. I was just looking for a quick way to tone down the brightness across both monitors. I like the visibility of lighter themes (Adwaita on Gnome Shell is pretty slick) but it's pretty bright when it's 2 am and I'm working in a dark room. Being able to quickly change brightness across both monitors evenly would be sweet...
[16:20] <maxxx> DemoOn, start run type in regedit
[16:20] <jason00> zaxonspox: that has to be incorrect, as I'm using the open source ATI drivers on my laptop and I have that capability.
[16:20] <DemoOn> KrisDouglas: i need to turn of automatically checkdisc
[16:20] <zaxonspox> Jonii install package "wvdial"
[16:21] <Jonii> http://forums.techarena.in/operating-systems/1243190.htm#post4696280 <- I found something like this
[16:21] <sethetter> anybody running linux on a macbook?
[16:21] <zaxonspox> jason00 i have Intel GMA, no utils, using only FN+UP/DOWN key to do brightness
[16:22] <maxxx> sethetter, google u tube i will find many
[16:22] <jason00> zaxonspox: Intel's drivers are also open source, and included in the kernel by default (just like ATI and Nvidia open source drivers are)
[16:22] <Jonii> xaxonpox, ty. You happen to know how to configure that?
[16:23] <zaxonspox> Jonii or you can install The Package and click2connect
[16:23] <nbubuntu> Hi anyone know any software to copy whole website and able to view offline ?
[16:23] <nbubuntu> thank you
[16:24] <zaxonspox> jason00, alright, but i still dont have typical brightness options - only FN+UP/DOWN keys
[16:24] <bubu> can anyone shed any light why this cronjob isnt working? 15 03 * * * root mysqldump --add-drop-table --single-transaction --all-databases -u blablabla -pblablabla databaseip
[16:24] <Pavilliox> Anyone know why ubuntu sound only detects my sound hardware now and again? Even after a purge and reinstall it won't find it
[16:24] <jason00> zaxonspox: do you have the brightness options in system settings - screen?
[16:24] <Pavilliox> Whereas alsamixer can find it fine
[16:24] <jason00> Pavilliox: is the appropriate sound card selected in system settings?
[16:25] <Muphrid> Pavilliox, whats the output of aplay -l
[16:25] <zaxonspox> nbubuntu, i heard of some app in linux, like web browser (epiphany?) that were able to do that
[16:25] <Pavilliox> Muphrid: http://pastie.org/2862392
[16:25] <zaxonspox> jason00, no, i dont have
[16:25] <Pavilliox> jason00: It won't let me select it, that's the problem D:
[16:25] <nbubuntu> zaxonspox : tried with HTTrack , but it does work well
[16:26] <geoffmcc> nbubuntu: some sites protect against it, but you can try wget -mk http://www.site.com
[16:26] <jason00> zaxonspox: I have an Intel GMA on my other laptop, but I have that option...
[16:26] <jason00> zaxonspox: its just a slider...
[16:26] <jasef> Ugh... does anyone know if Shorewall uses iptables or if it directly controls Netfilter?
[16:26] <sethetter> Is it possible to dual boot ubuntu 11 with mac osx? I read somewhere about problems that can be encountered
[16:26] <zaxonspox> jason00, i have only Monitor Pref.
[16:27] <jasonmsp> hey all..  I'm running 11.04 and my monitor every so often blinks off and on.  It is probably the video card but if not, is there something else I can be looking at?
[16:27] <nbubuntu> geoffmcc : the reason is , I wanted to copy a login base forum
[16:27] <jason00> zaxonspox: I dont even see monitor preferences. You don't see "SCREEN" in system settings? I have yet to see a system that DIDNT have screen...
[16:27] <GuiEuler> hello friends... can anyone here help-me with some problems in Ubuntu Server?
[16:27] <nbubuntu> geoffmcc : which a thread required a login to view , HTTrack doesn't support it
[16:27] <Pavilliox> Muphrid: Any idea?
[16:27] <maxxx> sethetter, most of the people simply don't use mac simply cannot effort it ..
[16:28] <Muphrid> Pavilliox, have you tried looking at the official sound troubleshoot guide?
[16:28] <Pavilliox> Muphrid: I have, I've reinstalled pulseaudio and alsa-core and everything else after purgeing and it just doesn't work
[16:28] <Pavilliox> Muphrid: My sound works fine, alsamixer works fine it's just pulseaudio
[16:28] <zaxonspox> jason00, i don see, as i have other language, but searched anything that might be a SCREEN, but onlu Monitor Pref. (the connected monitors, resolution, refresh rate)
[16:29] <sethetter> maxxx: yeah i understand. i'm looking to get out of the proprietary crap that mac dishes out and start developing in a completely oss environment..
[16:29] <geoffmcc> nbubuntu: you can try wget --user=theuser --password=thepassword -mk http://www.site.com
[16:29] <sethetter> maxxx: unfortunately there seems to be issues with even dual booting ubuntu 11 on mac.. :(
[16:29] <nbubuntu> geoffmcc : Ok let me try :)
[16:29] <Muphrid> Pavilliox, i dont know then...
[16:30] <maxxx> sethetter, may be some other session of ubuntu if some one or many use ubuntu through mac..:))
[16:30] <GuiEuler> :(
[16:31] <maxxx> sethetter, i really wanted to help
[16:31] <sethetter> maxxx: no worries you have, i may try a different version
[16:32] <sethetter> maxxx: 10.04lts seems to say it works with macbooks more smoothly
[16:32] <illDecree> anyone have any idea why i all of a sudden cannot open Deluge? i had some torrents queued up, and halfway through the xfer, deluge locked up. i rebooted, and now when i try to launch deluge, i get the 'starting deluge' tile in the bottom, then it never opens. nothing in TOP, no sign of life out of it. even after reinstalling it will not open. anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[16:32] <NotAnonymous> nick Pithikos
[16:32] <maxxx> sethetter, you can find out by working on virtual box instead
[16:32] <bubu> does anyone in here know how cronjobs work? :/
[16:32] <Gentoo64> illDecree, try opening it from terminal
[16:33] <Pici> bubu: I'm sure many people do.  Best to just ask your question.
[16:33] <llutz> bubu: isn't your job running at all or does it just fail to do what you expect?
[16:33] <sethetter> maxxx: sounds good i will try that
[16:34] <illDecree> Gentoo64: i've tried that a few times
[16:34] <maxxx> sethetter, all try in virtual box and then see can they manage and then really go for dual boot
[16:35] <Gentoo64> illDecree, any reason you need deluge? you could try transmission it might be more reliable
[16:36] <Gentoo64> if theres no errors showing i cant really say what it could be
[16:36] <bubu> Pici, llutz , the job it runs works fine but the cronjob just doesnt seem to be running at all...
[16:36] <bubu> logged in as root user, crontab -l
[16:36] <bubu> 15 03 * * * root mysqldump --add-drop-table --single-transaction --all-databases -u blablabla -pblablabla databaseip
[16:36] <geoffmcc> illDecree: rm ~/.config/deluge/persistent.state in term. this will remove all torrents, but when readded will start where left off
[16:37] <illDecree> Gentoo64: i'd like to recoup the xfers i had going. i'd use transmission if i could just get the xfers i had queued up finished. it was a LOT of data. i tried opening in terminal again after a reinstall just now, and i get this, among many other things: (deluge:12002): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[16:37] <bubu> do i not need the user in there? I cant find a cron.allow or .deny file
[16:37] <BluesKaj> Gentoo64, illDecree ,deluge is somewhat of a hog vs transmission
[16:37] <Pici> bubu: The format of a user's crontab does not include the user that is running the cron.  remove 'root' from there.
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> i prefer deluge
[16:37] <bubu> oki
[16:37] <bubu> thanks :)
[16:38] <Gentoo64> BluesKaj, i know. i was just saying
[16:38] <Gentoo64> illDecree, you should be able to keep the files, and transmission should take over the download
[16:38] <maxxx> hi Gentoo64
[16:38] <Gentoo64> if you add the torrent again
[16:38] <illDecree> BluesKaj: i prefer deluge over transmission; i guess transmission seems to basic for me. i'll give it a go though if i could just get this issue resolved!
[16:38] <Gentoo64> maxb, hi
[16:38] <Gentoo64> maxxx,
[16:39] <illDecree> Gentoo: i've tried addign the torrent again as well. nothing works.
[16:39] <Gentoo64> from transmission?
[16:40] <maxxx> illDecree, have you used kget
[16:40] <guanerpao> fdh
[16:40] <AdvoWork> is there a way to password protect a folder, so it asks for the password each time you go/open it?
[16:40] <illDecree> maxxx: no. what is kget? a torrent client?
[16:41] <theishi> I have several config files that I would like to regularly backup with SpiderOak... I want to create a directory that contains copies of these files (something like symlinks)... what would be the easiest way to set up someway of automatically syncing the files without symlinks (SpiderOak doesn't support them), that would be easy to add new files to be backedup?
[16:41] <maxxx> illDecree, ! kget
[16:41] <illDecree> gentoo64: no, not from transmission. i'll try that now
[16:41] <maxxx> ! kget
[16:41] <nbubuntu> geoffmcc : nope , tried few times still fail
[16:42] <maxxx> illDecree, !kget
[16:42] <tixos> hi
[16:42] <illDecree> opening the torrent again in transmission starts it from the beginning
[16:42] <illDecree> :-/
[16:42] <tixos> can someone tell me why when i boot into my desktop i am only shown a nautilus title bar at the top, no system try no unity launch, nothing.
[16:43] <tixos> it was working fine, and i installed a few apps from software center
[16:43] <Gentoo64> illDecree, it should start from where it was and check the file
[16:43] <ct529> hi everybody .... I would like to set -march=native as default so that every time I compile a package this is ste up
[16:44] <illDecree> Gentoo64: unfortunately, no. i'm trying again with another torrent
[16:45] <Gentoo64> hmm it used to for me when i switched torrents from rtorrent to transmission
[16:45] <geoffmcc> nbubuntu: sorry. only other thing i can think of would be an rsync -a (see man for rsync to see how to supply username/password)
[16:45] <sipior> ct529: you could include it in a CFLAGS environment variable. not sure it's a strictly good idea, but it should work.
[16:46] <puff> I have a t520 running 11.10 oneiric, how do I turn on the external video?
[16:48] <ct529> sipior: a CFLAGS that is permanent and global?
[16:48] <sipior> ct529: well, as permanent as any other environment variable, yes.
[16:49] <brjannc> theishi: use hard links instead
[16:50] <ct529> sipior: I meant, would it be rewritten by the CFLAGS variable that is in the Makefiles?
[16:50] <theishi> brjannc: can i use that for directories as well
[16:50] <Gentoo64> ct529, the makefiles will override it afaik
[16:50] <sipior> ct529: most makefiles are sensible enough to append such things. if not, patch the makefile.
[16:50] <Gentoo64> you could set export CFLAGS="" in /etc/profile
[16:50] <brjannc> theishi: no, you can only hard link files
[16:50] <STARK> alo
[16:51] <STARK> anyone knows the exact configuration for dhcp3 server?
[16:52] <illDecree> Gentoo64: i just realized i can't use Transmission. i don't see a place in it's settings to configure a proxy
[16:52] <Gentoo64> there should be..
[16:52] <ct529> sipior: Gentoo64: what I am trying to do at the moment, is to write a script that substitutes the original CXXFLAGS and CFLAGS with CFLAGS= -Wall -O3 -g -march=native
[16:52] <hydester> does anybody know if OpenSSL 1.0.0e security fixes are going to be backported to Lucid?  For example, CVE-2011-3207 and CVE-2011-3207
[16:52] <Gentoo64> ct529, for all packages?
[16:52] <ct529> sipior: Gentoo64: do you know of any script to do so?
[16:52] <FlyOnTheWall> I don't suppose anybody here has any experience in setting up a WPA2-Enterprise Wifi network using debian or ubuntu as the Freeradius server?
[16:53] <ct529> Gentoo64: only for the kernel, but the makefile structure is very complicated
[16:53] <Gentoo64> leave the kernel as it is
[16:53] <Gentoo64> you can turn off Os in the kernel itself
[16:53] <ct529> Gentoo64: what do you mean?
[16:53] <Gentoo64> and it should use o2
[16:53] <puff> Ah, found it in Accessories/Settings/Settings Mananger/Display.
[16:54] <Gentoo64> ct529, the kernel has options for similar things. i wouldnt use custom cflags on it
[16:54] <sipior> ct529: configure will generally honour the environmental variables it finds. that should be sufficient. don't use O3 in the kernel, btw (good lord)
[16:54] <ct529> Gentoo64: no, I am experimentig with kernel specifically compiled for my processor, with the -O3 --march=native flag on, to see how much we gain in term of performance
[16:54] <Gentoo64> disable "optimize for size"
[16:54] <Gentoo64> and select the cpu type you have ie core2/xeon
[16:54] <Gentoo64> the kernel is best left as it is it has its own optimizations
[16:54] <ct529> Gentoo64: I thought --march=native was disabling potimize for size
[16:54] <Gentoo64> no
[16:54] <estudiante_> hola????
[16:54] <Gentoo64> optimize for size is Os
[16:55] <Gentoo64> disable that and you get O2
[16:55] <maxxx> :))
[16:55] <estudiante_> ja
[16:55] <ct529> Gentoo64: well, actually generic amd64 is not very optimized
[16:55] <Gentoo64> yes thats why you can choose
[16:55] <Gentoo64> processor type
[16:55] <Gentoo64> it has a small list
[16:55] <Squarism> is "i havent gotten it"... as in "i get it" in past sense, correct english?
[16:55] <Gentoo64> on my i5 i use core2/newer xeon
[16:56] <tixos> when i login, i am not presented with the desktop, but 1 titlebar at the top
[16:56] <ct529> Gentoo64: exactly, this is what I did, but at compilation time I want to use --march=native, because I have noticed a difference on other compiled packages
[16:56] <tixos> how can i reset?
[16:56] <Gentoo64> Squarism, i think so
[16:56] <ct529> Gentoo64: why would you not use -O3?
[16:56] <Gentoo64> ct529, probably placebo
[16:56] <ct529> Gentoo64: what do you mean?
[16:56] <Gentoo64> ct529, O3 will slow down 99.9% of packages
[16:56] <Gentoo64> makes bigger binaries
[16:56] <ct529> Gentoo64: why?
[16:56] <Gentoo64> need more cache
[16:56] <Gentoo64> and more hdd time
[16:57] <Gentoo64> use O2 globally
[16:57] <Gentoo64> and O3 for very specific things
[16:58] <Nisideo> pula-n pizda
[16:58] <Gentoo64> and leave the kernel to choose the optimizations. i wouldnt touch it with manual cflags
[16:58] <tixos> hi
[16:58] <Nisideo> salut
[16:58] <tixos> someone tell me if im visible
[16:58] <Gentoo64> tixos, yes
[16:58] <Nisideo> yes you are visible
[16:58] <tixos> right ok
[16:58] <Nisideo> what the fuck is this ?
[16:58] <Gentoo64> whats what
[16:59] <Gentoo64> !language
[16:59] <Trizinix> Hi, my firefox crashs just after I start it, in gdb i get the following output: http://pastebin.com/GLae22WE Any Ideas?
[16:59] <tixos> how can i reset my users profile, ie, the guest session works fine, but when i login to my  users account i only get a nautilus title bar at the top, its the same bug i had when 11.10 first came out, and i reverted to 11.04
[16:59]  * Nisideo hits Gentoo64 over the head with a Big hammer  [16:59] <tixos> it worked fine 20minutes ago.
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> Nisideo?
[16:59] <oCean> Nisideo: this is ubuntu technical support. Please stop the offtopic sillyness
[16:59] <Nisideo> bah .. romaneste scrie careva ?
[17:00] <Nisideo> Er0x esti roman bah ?
[17:00] <Nisideo> MonkeyDust what do you want ?
[17:00] <ct529> Gentoo64: I do not understand, gcc documentation suggests that -O3 is more efficient that -O2 in terms of performances
[17:00] <Er0x> Nisideo: sorry, what?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> Nisideo: please type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:00] <Gentoo64> ct529, for very processor intensive stuff it probably is
[17:00] <Gentoo64> ct529, but like i said i wouldnt use that globally
[17:01] <sipior> ct529: you're neglecting the increased rate of cache misses.
[17:01] <tixos> MonkeyDust: maybe help me instead of worrying about some clowns
[17:01] <Nisideo> MonkeyDust and if i dont want ? what ?
[17:01] <ct529> Gentoo64: it is a production machine used to run economic models
[17:01] <Gentoo64> ct529, i dont know what that involves
[17:01] <usr13> I'm trying to use wicd but can't seem to get the applet icon to show up in the unity panel.  Any hints?
[17:01] <ct529> sipior: could you please explain, or point me out to some documentation?
[17:02] <Gentoo64> ct529, O3 uses more cpu cache
[17:02] <ct529> Gentoo64: very intensive numericcal calculations
[17:02] <Gentoo64> the smaller the O the smaller the cache needs
[17:02] <sipior> ct529: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/CFLAGS
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> tixos: issue doesn't ring a bell, cant say
[17:02] <ct529> Gentoo64: sipior: so what size of cache for -O3?
[17:02] <tixos> can you tell me how to reset unity / xorg?
[17:03] <sipior> ct529: if you don't know what it does, should you really be playing with it on a production machine?
[17:03] <``BrainWash``> e vreun roman aici ?
[17:04] <oCean> ``BrainWash``: english only
[17:05] <usr13> So, I've done away with wicd (and had done away with network-manager earlier) and I still get "operation not possible due to RF-kill" when I run dhclient wlan0
[17:05] <``BrainWash``> oCean tu ai nick romanesc.
[17:05] <``BrainWash``> oCean why only english >?
[17:05] <ct529> sipior: I do not understand the problem with installing a parallel kernel for test. I have done it in the past. I know what it does (it is in the documentation), but there is not recommendation for NOT using it for computationally intensive tasks, hence if you say it is not right for it, you may have to explain.
[17:05] <blackboxer> my second screen is working
[17:05] <``BrainWash``> alex
[17:05] <``BrainWash``> bun
[17:05] <``BrainWash``> :))
[17:06] <sipior> ct529: look, i don't care one way or the other. read the link i gave you, and it will explain why making your kernel larger (and thus increasing the likelihood of cache misses) is a problem for performance. please don't fall into the trap of "the number is bigger, so it must be faster". there's a reason it's not the default.
[17:06] <oCean> !ro | ``BrainWash``
[17:07] <blackboxer> fix it
[17:07] <``BrainWash``> oCean bine mah
[17:07] <``BrainWash``> sau .,. oky fine
[17:07] <usr13> I see:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610829  but no solutions....
[17:08] <``BrainWash``> oricum e plictiseala p-aici
[17:08] <``BrainWash``> cred ca imi dau un sut in cur si ma car
[17:09] <ct529> sipior: the link is interesting, but even there they state that python and large applications would increase their performance
[17:09] <blackboxer> its not fixed yet
[17:10] <Travis-42> I went into Keyboard settings and assigned some custom keyboard bindings to some scripts, but they don't seem to be triggered. This is Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit. Any ideas?
[17:12] <sipior> ct529: i didn't say it never worked. yes, *sometimes* it improves performance in a meaningful way. and *sometimes* it makes things quite a bit slower. look, do what you want.
[17:13] <ct529> sipior: we need to benchmark different kernels to identify the fastest for our applications
[17:13] <sipior> ct529: then do that.
[17:13] <ct529> sipior: yes, I am actually running the compilations now .... my question was very different.
[17:14] <lighta> hi guys,  how can I setup a priority wifi ? I mean in univ I can detect 2 wifi but I want he conect to one in particular if that possible.
[17:16] <tziOm> What should I do to get the ip_set kernel module?
[17:17] <tziOm> I try m-a a-i ipset
[17:17] <Travis-42> How do I set custom key bindings to run scripts in Ubuntu 11.10? ccsm and the keyboard settings options seem to be ignored
[17:17] <tziOm> but it fails
[17:17] <lexflex> hello folks
[17:17] <Barbarian> hey
[17:18] <sethetter> Does anyone know if there are any major downsides to using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS vs ubuntu 11.10?
[17:19] <mahamed90> How do you remove the multiple kernels when GRUB options appear
[17:19] <mahamed90> ??
[17:19] <mahamed90> ??
[17:19] <FloodBot1> mahamed90: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <iceroot> sethetter: older software-versions
[17:19] <mahamed90> y
[17:19] <sethetter> iceroot: will i run into a lot of those? or just here and there
[17:19] <mahamed90> and what did the flood bot meant anyway??
[17:19] <mahamed90> ??
[17:19] <mahamed90> ??
[17:19] <mahamed90> ??
[17:19] <FloodBot1> mahamed90: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <ct529> sipior: thanks for the link, have a nice evening
[17:20] <mahamed90> what does the bot mean??
[17:20] <lexflex> do i understand this right: with a laptop, ubuntu can only extend the desktop to the right but NEVER to the left?
[17:20] <lighta> not true lexflex
[17:20] <mahamed90> both ways
[17:20] <mahamed90> even on a pc it does that
[17:20] <mahamed90> best settings i do when it plays up is to have auto setting for monitor
[17:20] <iceroot> sethetter: most software packages are older in 10.04 then in 11.10 but think of, older often means "more stable"
[17:21] <lexflex> lighta: i am trying to extend the desktop on my macbook pro, the laptop is on the left and the 24" monitor on the right. i can only get it done the other way around (laptop right)
[17:21] <mahamed90> How do you remove the multiple kernels when GRUB options appear??
[17:21] <lighta> hmm lexflex did u try using xrandr ?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> mahamed90: you can use ubuntu-tweak
[17:21] <Abhijit> hi. alt f1 or super key for brining the menu bar is not working. how to reassing it? help
[17:21] <lexflex> lighta: i usually use disper
[17:21] <sethetter> iceroot: good point.. it's looking like i have to use 10.04lts anywyas. 11.1 isn't working as dual boot on my mbp
[17:21] <mahamed90> mahamed90: you can use ubuntu-tweak?? what is that
[17:22] <Gentoo64> a tweak tool
[17:22] <Gentoo64> for ubuntu
[17:22] <lighta> hmm I don't, know disper, wait I'll try to give you the proper command line I was using
[17:22] <mahamed90> maybe if i there is a guides and tutorials
[17:22] <iceroot> sethetter: if you want a stable release i guess lts is always a very good idea
[17:22] <Gentoo64> mahamed90, you can delete kernels with it afaik
[17:23] <mahamed90> is that a safe order??
[17:23] <lexflex> lighta: how would it work anyway, if i have the laptop on the left and the main screen on the right? the dash is on the left so when i want to go to the laptop monitor i would automatically activate the dash, no?
[17:23]  * Abhijit got rid of lts after boring of old softwares and not having some bug fixes, and for new and latest softwares
[17:23] <mahamed90> do you write 'sudo afaik'
[17:23] <Gentoo64> try it
[17:23] <Gentoo64> see what it says
[17:23] <mahamed90> ok
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> lexflex: there's a patch to move the launchbar to the bottom
[17:23] <lighta> hmm I didn't get what u mean lexflex sorry, you quite lose me there
[17:24] <mahamed90> command not found. Dentoo
[17:24] <mahamed90> i mean Gentoo
[17:24] <Gentoo64> mahamed90, thats because it isnt a command :)
[17:24] <mahamed90> typo error
[17:24] <Gentoo64> means "as far as i know"
[17:24] <mahamed90> how do i use it??
[17:24] <Gentoo64> hmm tbh id leave it for now
[17:24] <lexflex> monkeydust: that could solve my problem.
[17:24] <Gentoo64> i wouldnt go deleting kernels before you know how to use basic program
[17:25] <lighta> I may try anwsering saying that you could invert screen, so left go on right etc.. so that may be more convenient wherever you want to put your laptop but id if I get it right
[17:25] <lexflex> monkeydust: i googled that before, but thought it was impossible with ubuntu.. how do you patch that?
[17:25] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2] '~$ aptitude why mutter-common; i libmutter0 Depends  mutter-common.' '~$ aptitude why libmutter0; i gnome-shell Depends libmutter0.' --  I wonder why installing the package gnome-shell did not install also automatically the package »mutter«?
[17:26] <Abhijit> hi. alt f1 or super key for brining the menu bar is not working. how to reassing it? help
[17:27] <bullgard4> Abhijit: You better tell us your Ubuntu version and Desktop environment.
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> lexflex: does this help? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
[17:27] <lighta> lexflex, xrandr --output VGA --auto --right-of LVDS or xrandr --output VGA --auto --left-of LVDS.... etc
[17:28] <lexflex> lighta: remember standard ubuntu display settings do not work with macbook pro, it's nvidia stuff
[17:28] <Trizinix> Any Idea why my firefox crashes with the following output: http://pastebin.com/GLae22WE
[17:28] <lexflex> ligtha: i am not sure if that affects xrandr too (?)
[17:29] <lighta> oh ! I didn't now that lexflex, sorry then can't help =(
[17:30] <Abhijit> bullgard4, kubuntu 11.10
[17:32] <bullgard4> Trizinix: /build/buildd/firefox-8.0~b6+build2/build-tree/mozilla/db/sqlite3/src/sqlite3.c seems to not exist or in a wrong path.
[17:32] <Abhijit> hi. alt f1 or super key for brining the menu bar is not working. how to reassing it. in kubuntu 11.10. help please
[17:32] <lexflex> monkeydust: no it doesnt: "For now this only works on 32bit!"
[17:33] <bullgard4> Abhijit: I do not much know about Kubuntu and cannot help you.
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> lexflex: "for now" was 27 oct, maybe it's possible on 64 bit by now
[17:34] <Abhijit> bullgard4, okies
[17:35] <Trizinix> bullgard4: And how can I fix it? Wheres the directory /build and why ist a .c File missing, firefox should be compiled, shouldnt it?
[17:36] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, when I first installed Ubuntu on this computer, Nautilus discovered and could connect to my Win7 SMB server just fine. I bookmarked it, even. Now, it doesn't see it at all, nor does using the bookmark help reach it. Any idea why? What can I do to fix it?
[17:36] <lighta> Dark_Apostrophe, are you well connected with it ? ping ok ?
[17:37] <rypervenche> Is it possible to see what someone has downloaded on Apache? I would like to share some files with someone, but I'd like to know which ones they accessed/downloaded. Is this possible?
[17:37] <c007> hello people
[17:37] <bullgard4> Trizinix: I do not understand the word »Wheres«.
[17:37] <iceroot> bullgard4: where is
[17:37] <Dark_Apostrophe> lighta: yep
[17:38] <iceroot> rypervenche: /var/log/apache2/access.log
[17:38] <lighta> hmm, did you try with other soft ? lie gigolo, doplhin ?
[17:38] <Dark_Apostrophe> No
[17:38] <lexflex> monkeydust: also, i don't think this walkthrough applies to my system or at least its not written good enough so i can follow through
[17:38] <lighta> I used to lie gigolo for that
[17:38] <lighta> give a try Dark_Apostrophe and tell me if that helped
[17:39] <Dark_Apostrophe> alright
[17:39] <Trizinix> bullgard4: Sry, I mean where is this file located?
[17:39] <geoffmcc> Trizinix: although i have not had that exact problem with firefox, i find most problems with it can be resolved by deleting the /home/user/.mozilla/firefox directory and then opening up firefox again
[17:39] <freaktux> irc.explosionirc.it
[17:40] <bullgard4> Trizinix: I do not know where your directory /build is. You can use the program »find« to find out.  I don't think that Firefox should be compiled if a .c file is missing.
[17:40] <OY1R> to start wspr i have to open a terminal and cd to WSPR and run ./wspr how do i add it to applications menu ?
[17:40] <fab__> bonsoir
[17:40] <z3r0c007> hello people
[17:40] <fab__> je cherche de l'aide concernant la lecture de mpeg4
[17:40] <z3r0c007> any help installing ubuntu 11.10
[17:41] <Pici> !fr | fab__
[17:41] <z3r0c007> i'm new in this linux ubuntu
[17:41] <Gentoo64> z3r0c007, what do you need help wth
[17:41] <bullgard4> ¹install | z3r0c007
[17:41] <bullgard4> !install | z3r0c007
[17:41] <Abhijit> hi. alt f1 or super key for brining the menu bar is not working. how to reassing it. in kubuntu 11.10. help please
[17:42] <Dark_Apostrophe> lighta: That worked, thanks :)
[17:42] <lighta> fab__, what do you want to now exacly about mp4 reading ? wich exact format ?
[17:42] <lighta> np Dark_Apostrophe, so now that it attach try reaching it with nautilus again
[17:42] <z3r0c007> i already install ubuntu but i have a problem connecting ipod touch io5
[17:43] <Dark_Apostrophe> lighta: It works in Nautilus now :)
[17:43] <lighta> ok =)
[17:43] <Dark_Apostrophe> Thanks again. :)
[17:44] <bullgard4> !ipod | z3r0c007
[17:45] <Abhijit> hi. alt f1 or super key for brining the menu bar is not working. how to reassing it. in kubuntu 11.10. help please this happend after i removed and added the default panel.
[17:45] <z3r0c007> ubottu : i have  a error while plugging my ipod touch erro : -15
[17:46] <z3r0c007> no problem i'm just asking for what solution i need to do
[17:46] <z3r0c007> i already send this bug to ubuntu community
[17:48] <z3r0c007> ubottu: this is the error: Unhandled Lockdown error (-15)
[17:49] <popey> z3r0c007: i know that error
[17:49] <geoffmcc> z3r0c007, FYI ubottu is only a bot
[17:49] <alexwaters> does anyone know off hand how I can check which berkeleydb version i am running?
[17:50] <Abhijit> alexandrev, may be try berkeleydb -v
[17:50] <Abhijit> ?
[17:50] <popey> z3r0c007: bug 877440 is yours ?
[17:50] <Abhijit> in terminal
[17:50] <z3r0c007> ok, any suggestion about the error encounter
[17:51] <Abhijit> z3r0c007, popey is talking to you
[17:51] <popey> z3r0c007: is this a clean install or have you upgraded from a previous release?
[17:52] <z3r0c007> i try already  the command device pair and unpaired but there no result in my computer
[17:53] <tpyo> if I use unetbootin and install instead of just booting into the OS, should it then work when it asks to reset?
[17:53] <Barbarian> yup
[17:53] <Barbarian> should work fine
[17:53] <tpyo> i've tried this procedure three times now, on three different laptops and two different OSes
[17:53] <tpyo> and all I get when i remove the USB key and boot from HDD is a blinky _
[17:53] <Barbarian> hmmmm
[17:54] <Barbarian> what did you use to make the usb?
[17:54] <tpyo> i really don't understand what im doing wrong
[17:54] <Barbarian> linux?
[17:54] <tpyo> unetbootin on windoze
[17:54] <tpyo> from an image ive downloaded
[17:54] <Barbarian> strange, only time thats happened to me is on linux when i didnt give it enough privileges
[17:54] <Abhijit> tpyo, check the md5 checksum of the image first
[17:55] <mahamed90> how do i use ubuntu-tweak to change GRUB settings???
[17:55] <tpyo> surely if the file is broken then the installation process will fail, no?
[17:55] <Barbarian> not necessarily, sounds like grub is broken
[17:55] <tpyo> i boot in, do a full install, everything is lovely
[17:55] <Abhijit> not always. not necessarily
[17:55] <tpyo> then blinky light
[17:55] <tpyo> the bootloader?
[17:55] <Barbarian> yeah
[17:56] <tpyo> ive had installs get to that point (when i dualed win7 and ubunutu)
[17:56] <popey> z3r0c007: I have left a comment on the bug report
[17:56] <tpyo> and going to ubuntu gives me blinky light
[17:56] <Barbarian> ah, ok, misunderstood
[17:56] <tpyo> is the blinky _ like the most generic error possible or something?
[17:56] <z3r0c007> ok thanks popey
[17:57] <tpyo> i just find it strange that all 3 installs ive done with different OSes and hardware result in the same problem
[17:57] <tpyo> like im doing something fundamentally wrong
[17:57] <tpyo> i am a linux newb
[17:57] <lexflex> please dear friends i do not know which operating system to make my new primary OS. windows 7, os X lion or ubuntu 11.10?
[17:58] <Barbarian> as you're in an ubuntu IRC channel, everyone will say ubuntu :P
[17:58] <appi_uppi> can i use scp to transfer data across wan without encryption?
[17:58] <mahamed90> i would say stick with linux and kep thee others there
[17:58] <Abhijit> tpyo, you intsall from usb to hardisk. then it gives you msg that installation is done. then you press restart. then it ask you to remove intsallaiotn medium. thenyou remove pen drive and press enter and then it restarts and then ti should get a grup menu. in this sequeence where you are going wrong?
[17:58] <z3r0c007> lexflex: it's better to use ubuntu 11.10
[17:58] <appi_uppi> because we use wan accelerator to transfer encrypted/compressed data
[17:58] <Tamale_> should I expect compiz to work with unity on an ATI mobility radeon x1600?
[17:58] <Odaym> can't I get Thunderbird to stay in the tray?
[17:58] <Odaym> I see no option for that in the Preferences
[17:58] <Pumpkin-> appi_uppi: yes, but only if the remote sshd has been configured to allow "null" (I think it is nuill) as an encryption type.
[17:58] <mahamed90> lexflex you never know when you need some piece of software that works on the other OS's
[17:58] <Barbarian> Tamale_, yeah, should work
[17:59] <Abhijit> lexflex, the one which makes your works easy and which is working as per your tase and satisying your needs.
[17:59] <Tamale_> Barbarian: I'm getting "Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: Root visual is not a GL visual"
[17:59] <Tamale_> Barbarian: when running "compiz --replace &"
[17:59] <Abhijit> Odaym, there was another app which does the thing of putting another app in tray
[17:59] <Barbarian> hmmm
[17:59] <z3r0c007> gtg
[17:59] <Barbarian> you got proprietary drivers installed and working?
[17:59] <tpyo> hi Abhijit, thanks for explaining the process. Last installation I did, I load from USB, it gives me options (boot into USB, scan memory, install, etc) I choose install. Install works fine, it reboots. If I leave the USB drive IN, it boots off the USB (default), if I remove it I get blinky underscore
[18:00] <Pumpkin-> appi_uppi: my understanding though is on ubuntu you may need to rebuild the sshd package to allow you to do that.
[18:00] <lexflex> the thing is that ubuntu - of all three - makes my work the hardest as i am fiddling all the time with issues that are "just working" on windows and os x. then again, i think both microsoft and apple are just E-V-I-L
[18:00] <Tamale_> Barbarian: sounds like the proprietary drivers aren't supported anymore for cards as old as mine
[18:00] <Abhijit> tpyo, which working os you already have installed there?
[18:00] <Tamale_> I've heard people say open-source should work fine
[18:00] <Pici> !ot
[18:00] <tpyo> on the last machine I did this on. None
[18:00] <Abhijit> lexflex, pls come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:01] <tpyo> only one machine that ive done this one had another OS, the other two were clean
[18:01] <Barbarian> Tamale_: Lemme go do some googlin', see what I find
[18:01] <Abhijit> tpyo, and which is that os you are trying to install adn getting problem?
[18:01] <Tamale_> Barbarian: thank you
[18:01] <tpyo> either Xubuntu or Ubuntu Studio
[18:01] <tpyo> those are the two I have tried
[18:01] <tpyo> Ubuntu studio twice, Xubuntu once
[18:02] <tpyo> what kind of error does a blinky underscore suggest. Is it not very common?
[18:02] <sven_> tpyo, at what stage?
[18:03] <Barbarian> Tamale_: try this driver http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run
[18:03] <Tulitomaatti> any idea how to control which network interface a process/program(s) use to connect to the internet?
[18:03] <tpyo> immediately after boot
[18:03] <tpyo> e.g. post bios
[18:03] <Tamale_> Barbarian: you sure propreitary is best bet?
[18:03] <lexflex> all: i moved my interesting and highly controversial question to #ubuntu-offtopic as suggested by Abhijit. feel free to join and see how things turn out in the ever lasting fight of the OSes
[18:03] <Barbarian> Tamale_: When it comes to hardware, normally yes.
[18:04] <Abhijit> tpyo, try reinstalling grub
[18:04] <tpyo> like when you'd expect some console talking about booting or a nice screen showing the OS name and loading bar.... i get a blinky underscore instead
[18:04] <geoffmcc> tpyo: Nvidia display?
[18:04] <tpyo> no, Intel
[18:04] <tpyo> they're all low spec laptops
[18:04] <Barbarian> tpyo: you get something if you press ctrl+alt+F5?
[18:04] <K4k> Is Ubuntu server set up not to auto mount CDrom disks like the desktop version?
[18:05] <tpyo> lemme try that
[18:05] <KHendrik> Hi everyone
[18:05] <Barbarian> o/
[18:06] <mimoso32> cucuccu
[18:06] <KHendrik> short question installing ubuntu server on a software raid 10 how long should it normally take
[18:06] <geoffmcc> typo: i get that too, it locks up the whole pc, have to hold down power button to get to turn off,  but for me its display. i have to go into bios and turn dual display off and then it boots like a charm
[18:06] <tpyo> Barbarian, no, ctrl+alt+f5 does nothing, + del still reboots and nothing appears on the screen
[18:07] <tpyo> geoffmcc, id totally understand if it was the display except the Xubunut one at least boots fine off the usb
[18:07] <ssta> KHendrik: depends on LOTS of factors.  I wouldn't imagine it would take more than an hour though (unless you have HUGE disk or soemthing)
[18:07] <sven_> tpyo, i had the same problem with my fresh install. i booted rescue mode, and executed update-grub2 (or such) - then it worked after reboot
[18:08] <tpyo> how do i boot rescue mode?
[18:08] <tpyo> from the usb?
[18:08] <sven_> tpyo, just boot another system (same architecture, livecd, usb, etc)
[18:08] <Barbarian> tpyo, should be on the menu where u select OS
[18:08] <sven_> Barbarian, thats the menu he does not get ;-)
[18:08] <Barbarian> oh lol
[18:08] <Barbarian> nvm me :D
[18:08] <KHendrik> ssta: It#s been almost two hours so I#m kindof worried that something is wrong still the progress bar is at 40%
[18:09] <sven_> KHendrik, that is too long. but you can alt-f2 to a shell, use top, chroot /target, press alt-f4 to see logs etc
[18:09] <theborger> KHendrik: sure you set it up right?
[18:10] <KHendrik> theborger, pretty sure did it all before
[18:10] <theborger> yea something not right
[18:10] <ssta> KHendrik: hmm...that doesn't sound good to me...
[18:10] <tpyo> so i chose help and got a console
[18:10] <conntrack> indeed
[18:10] <tpyo> but any combination of update -grub2
[18:11] <KHendrik> sven_, top not found
[18:11] <tpyo> doesn't seem to be good....
[18:11] <tpyo> so like... do I need to search somewhere to find the right command or am I at a bad prompt?
[18:11] <sven_> KHendrik, you first have to "chroot /target" - there you have what is installed so far in tools etc....
[18:11] <tpyo> should I execute from the USB instead into "proper" xubuntu?
[18:11]  * tpyo apologises for not knowing what he is doing D:
[18:12] <sven_> tpyo, so you booted from usb/cd, then mount your harddrive (mount /dev/sda???? /mnt) and chroot into it (chroot /mnt) - to find out which sda??? you need to use... either try sda1 sda2...5 or use your knowledge to find out :)
[18:12] <K4k> Is Ubuntu server set up not to auto mount CDrom disks like the desktop version?
[18:13] <sven_> K4k, i woul wonder if it did
[18:13] <Jonii> What's the difference between Libre Office and Open Office, and why did the default processor change from 10.4 to 11.10?
[18:14] <sven_> Jonii, libre is a fork, due to unclear support of openoffice's new owner - for you it should be the same
[18:14] <ssta> Jonii: libre office is a fork of openoffice
[18:14] <KHendrik> top looks normal to me
[18:15] <Jonii> sven_: "for me it should be the same"?
[18:15] <K4k> sven_: Any idea how I can mount it manually? I can't find /dev/cdrom or anything else like that
[18:15] <sven_> KHendrik, any busy process?
[18:15] <sven_> K4k, cdr* sr* sd[abcd] dont know sorry
[18:16] <KHendrik> md1_raid10 and md1_resync but only like 4% cpu
[18:16] <sven_> Jonii, at the time of the fork taking place, both software products are 100% identical, then some names and logos get changed.... and thats where we are almost at
[18:17] <appi_uppi> Pumpkin-, scp can't be used for encryption/compression?
[18:17] <appi_uppi> Pumpkin-, err: without encryption
[18:17] <sven_> scp encrypts, and with the right parameters it compresses also - still i would not say it can be used for encryption/compression ;-)
[18:17] <geoffmcc> typo: run livecd and then install and run Boot-Repair then reboot
[18:18] <kazoo> Hello, Every time I try to install something i get this error, Media Change: please insert the disk labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091027.2)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter, how can i remove that?
[18:18] <Pumpkin-> no, as in ssh/scp hasa  null encrpytion type, but enabling it is a huge pain. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/54180
[18:18] <ssta> appi_uppi: you'd need to recompile it probably.  Why would you want to though?
[18:18] <Barbarian> I hope my advice didn't kill Tamale_'s computer :P
[18:18] <conntrack> the old classics
[18:18] <CrackerJack> hi
[18:18] <conntrack> Guess they will never work
[18:19] <Igoru> i'm trying to compile a PHP extension and, when it gets to this line "config.status: executing libtool commands" it suddenly dies. how can i track this problem?
[18:19] <appi_uppi> ssta, we have wan accelerator http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/  to encrypt/compress
[18:20] <bytesaber_work> While running Gnome, I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04.  It forcibly put me into Unity after the upgrade.   I've installed gnome-panel.   When I logout, I can't find a session option or something called Gnome.   What do I do?
[18:20] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work, in 11.04 you have the option of going into "classic" mode, which is unity
[18:20] <tpyo> okay so I need to chroot to hop between the USB live version im running and the HDD... all the HDD is listed as is "59GB FileSystem". How do I find out what arguement i need to send to chroot?
[18:21] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: so on the login screen, at the bottom of the screen, there should be the option
[18:21] <mattgyver> kazoo, in software sources you need to uncheck the cd from the list "installable from cdrom"
[18:21] <ssta> appi_uppi: yes, I mean why use scp?  Why not rcp?  or ftp?  or basically anything that natively does what you want...
[18:21] <bytesaber_work> Barbarian, classic = unity?
[18:21] <Resistance> bytesaber_work:  classic != unity, iirc.
[18:21] <bytesaber_work> brb, gonna try classic
[18:22] <kazoo> mattgyver, all i see is a cd's for 10.10
[18:22] <kazoo> and there unchecked.
[18:22] <Linuxlainen> would sudo apt-get upgrade do the job? or would it upgrade ubuntu as well
[18:22] <KHendrik> sven_, what do you think should I just start over again?
[18:22] <sven_> tpyo, well, as someone else suggested: if you have install media there might be a rescue/repair-grub option to do all this. but for manual: mount the HDD (click it) then see on what path it comes. most likely /media/blah... thats where you have to chroot to
[18:22] <appi_uppi> ssta, the primary requirement was to use scp, but i found we can't do it using scp as it warrants ssl. Yeah I can try rcp or ftp
[18:22] <appi_uppi> ssta, netcat?
[18:23] <ssta> appi_uppi: yeah, that works...
[18:23] <tpyo> blah is a guid
[18:23] <tpyo> that's normal?
[18:23] <appi_uppi> ssta, will go through it then
[18:23] <tpyo> oh im going to enjoy typing this baby out
[18:23] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: did it work?
[18:23] <sven_> KHendrik, well, if you do the same as before, i'd bet it'll hang again. so i'd rather see whats wrong. what is top saying? any process hogging the cpu? what are the logs on alt-f4-6 telling?
[18:23] <bytesaber_work> ok, classic appears to be gnome.
[18:23] <Linuxlainen> any idea??
[18:23] <bytesaber_work> Barbarian, ya thank you.    Now to fix my 3d cube.
[18:23] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: you're welcome. Good luck!
[18:24] <bytesaber_work> the ubuntu deity just think unity is the future or something?
[18:24] <Linuxlainen> please help
[18:25] <Barbarian> linuxlainen: whats your question? If sudo apt-get update will update ubuntu?
[18:25] <kazoo> Yeah, It's still asking me for the DVD and i can't find it on the software sources list
[18:26] <Linuxlainen> Barbarian: I just want to apply the security updates and other updates but without upgrading ubuntu to 11.10
[18:26] <Barbarian> Linuxlainene: sudo apt-get update will not upgrade version
[18:26] <tpyo> awesome, i have chrooted. Now how is one able to update grub? update is not recognised as a command. did I mean uupdate or lupdate?
[18:26] <KHendrik> sven_, no cpu is fine but the log is full of :"util-linux pre-depends on .... ...is unpacked but has never been configured dpkg:warning: ignoring pre-dependency problem!"
[18:27] <Linuxlainen> Barbarian: sudo apt-get update will only update the library but will not install anything
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> Linuxlainen: update synchronizes (with) the servers; upgrade, well, upgrades
[18:27] <Linuxlainen> Barbarian:  I want to install the updates, but without upgrading ubuntu
[18:27] <blueblue2u> gastly you here still
[18:27] <blueblue2u> ?
[18:27] <Barbarian> linuxlainen: itll upgrade all software installed, if a newer version availuable, it will update 11.04 if any updates are availuable, it will NOT go to 11.10
[18:28] <Linuxlainen> Barbarian: perfect, thank you. upgrade it is then
[18:28] <blueblue2u> i can only install ubuntu inside e partiton when i choose to install with windows
[18:28] <blueblue2u> its a bummer
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> blueblue2u: linux works with partitions, that is correct
[18:29] <blueblue2u> i want to put lubuntu in /root partition and boot to whichever i choose at startup
[18:29] <blueblue2u> i have 4 part. 1 swap 1ntfs 2 ext4
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> root is part of lubuntu
[18:30] <blueblue2u> i want the opyiom to boot either os windows or ubuntu
[18:30] <tpyo> "sudo update-grub" "cannot create dev/null: permission denied". Why would it deny permission if I am sudoing?
[18:30] <bytesaber_work> i'm in ubuntu classic,  (gnome).  i can't move windows around.  The maximize, minimize buttons are missing.  When I pick a different theme,  they don't appear.  What is going on??   Am I being encourged to use Unity?
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> blueblue2u: GRUB gives you the choice to boot in either one
[18:31] <blueblue2u> i made the partitions in gparted but if you choose instal  alog side ubuntu in the instaler it boot windows and only gives the choice to install to windows partiton
[18:31] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: sounds like your window decorations are missing
[18:31] <blueblue2u> do i need to instal grub seperate or what?
[18:31] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: Get compizconfigsettings-manager and run it with ccsm
[18:32] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: then just add window decorations (will be an option there)
[18:32] <blueblue2u> monkeydust do i need to install grub seperate to be able to boot into windowsa or lubuntu?
[18:32] <bytesaber_work> ok.  i'll look
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> blueblue2u: you can set the partitions during installation
[18:32] <blueblue2u> no you cant i just ried
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> then you did something wrong
[18:33] <mebuntu> hi, need some aid. currently on ubuntu 11.10 unity desktop. is trying to change caja into the default open folder. had edited defaults.list in both /local/share/applications and usr/share/applications and added the caja.desktop. caja is confirmed working fine on ubuntu 11.10 but the change is not successful
[18:33] <blueblue2u> im sry let me try again it said do you want to make a partition but i already did that
[18:33] <Nertskull> Does anyone know if I can run a virtualbox guest OS through Tor?  So all connections in the virtual OS are through tor?
[18:33] <blueblue2u> maybe i have to again
[18:34] <bytesaber_work> Barbarian, what do you mean run it with ccsm?
[18:34] <Barbarian> nertskull: pretty sure you can do that with torsocks, never tried it myself so it may need some persistance and trial-and-error, dont know
[18:34] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: type ccsm in a terminal
[18:34] <bytesaber_work> Barbarian, oh just call it instead of click it.
[18:34] <Jordan_U> blueblue2u: I would recommend *not* installing within Windows.
[18:34] <bytesaber_work> Barbarian, ok it's up.   i'm looking to enable one called  "window decoration" ?
[18:34] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: oh, if you have an icon to click, equally good :D too used to command line myself
[18:35] <Barbarian> lemme look for it, 2 secs
[18:35] <Nertskull> Barbarian: thanks, I'll look into that
[18:35]  * bytesaber_work senses he is lucky Barbarian came to work today.
[18:35] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work first time ever helping people on this thing :D had a spare hour while i ate, so i thought "How hard can it be to help people?"
[18:35] <Barbarian> :D
[18:36] <bytesaber_work> >: )
[18:36] <bytesaber_work> Barbarian, looking like i just want to enable all the stuff in Window Management ?
[18:37] <Barbarian> nooooo
[18:37] <Barbarian> definitely not
[18:37] <Guest71471> hello people has anyone done open GTS project on Ubuntu
[18:37] <jbrks> well a change of name.. that's a start
[18:37] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: for comparison, what I have active is grid, move window, place window, scale, resize window
[18:37] <tpyo> my terminal keeps telling me "unable to resolve host ubuntu". Sooooo im trying to recreate etc/hosts as it isn't there but the command that I found online: "gksu gedit /etc/hosts" results in: "no protocol specified". Am I doing something horribly wrong?
[18:38] <LemonAid> Hello. I`m learning bash programming (or scripting if you like) and i wrote a script. Now the problem is it`s not behaving like i think it should. Can anyone tell me why ? (the specific problem is that it does not break out of the secondary loop) The link is here -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/738446/
[18:38] <iceroot> !hostname | tpyo
[18:38] <Pici> LemonAid: #bash would probably be the best  place to ask such questions.
[18:38] <jbrks> tpyo, try gksudo
[18:38] <LemonAid> Pici: thank you, i`ll go there.
[18:39] <bytesaber_work> Barbarian, well, i guess that's helping.  I can ressize a window now.   What happened to the typcial maximize, minimize, close  buttons?
[18:39] <bytesaber_work> i'm confused.  almost seems like my WM just is broken
[18:40] <blueblue2u> where should i install the oot loader?
[18:40] <blueblue2u> boot*
[18:40] <blueblue2u> in hdd i assume
[18:40] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: Those are window decorations, should be somewhere in there
[18:41] <Jordan_U> blueblue2u: You shouldn't generally need to in
[18:42] <Jordan_U> blueblue2u: ... need to install a bootloader manually. Ubuntu's installer will install grub properly.
[18:42] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: I'm gonna go play some HoN now. Any last second questions?
[18:42] <borillion_> my laptop dvd-rw broke I replaced it, while it does show up it wont spin up any disks
[18:42] <borillion_> I have tried several drives
[18:43] <borillion_> anyone have an idea?
[18:43] <bytesaber_work> Barbarian, i dunno.  i'm all sorts of broken now.
[18:43] <blueblue2u> jordan i have made 1 swap i have 1 windows partition and 2 ext4 partitions
[18:43] <Barbarian> bytesaber_work: what do you mean?
[18:43] <blueblue2u> i want to put linux n 1 of the ext4 parttions
[18:44] <blueblue2u> i also want to have the option at boot to choose windows or ubuntu
[18:44] <NateTut> I'm trying to get mailx working on Oneric, can anyone help me?
[18:44] <Jordan_U> blueblue2u: If you do install grub manually for some reason its boot sector should go in the mbr.
[18:44] <mentoc> Why are so many packages dependant on dbus?
[18:44] <Jordan_U> blueblue2u: I think you're making things more difficult than they need to be.
[18:45] <blueblue2u> the insaler only ets you do a full install on your whole hdd or install it inside windows partition !
[18:45] <blueblue2u> thats garbage!
[18:45] <blueblue2u> ok then what d i choose jordan?
[18:45] <Jordan_U> blueblue2u: That is not true.
[18:45] <tziOm> how do I install 3.0.4 in 11.04?
[18:45] <blueblue2u> uhhh im looking at the instaler now
[18:46] <blackshirt> tzi0m:what you mean 3.0.4 ?
[18:46] <blueblue2u> the only other option is create partitions
[18:46] <blueblue2u> or "something else"
[18:46] <Jordan_U> blueblue2u: Please be patient, I have a lot to write ans I'm working from my phone.
[18:47] <blackshirt> blueblue2u: is there advanced option ?
[18:47] <CrackerJack> does any one how to put skype on the message menu on ubunut 10.10
[18:47] <blueblue2u> install replace or something else are 3 options
[18:47] <qwertyoruiop> download mac os x
[18:47] <qwertyoruiop> install it
[18:47] <qwertyoruiop> enjoy
[18:47] <qwertyoruiop> a working os
[18:47] <qwertyoruiop> ;)
[18:47] <FloodBot1> qwertyoruiop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:47] <tziOm> kernel 3.0.4
[18:47] <qwertyoruiop> fuck u FloodBot1
[18:47] <mentoc> Any idea why dbus is used so much in ubuntu?
[18:47] <oCean> qwertyoruiop: control your language here, please
[18:47] <qwertyoruiop> nou
[18:48] <john> hello
[18:49] <trism> CrackerJack: you can easily add a menu item to the messaging menu by adding a file named skype to /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/ containing the path to the skype .desktop file (probably /usr/share/applications/skype.desktop)
[18:49] <CrackerJack> thanks trism
[18:49] <trism> CrackerJack: however, it won't do anything other than launch skype, any more integration requires additional code, which won't happen with skype
[18:50] <Jordan_U> blueblue2u: Could you wait a few minutes before doing anything so I can get to a normal computer + keyboard?
[18:50] <blackshirt> tzi0m: you can do it (install) from repos or compile by self
[18:50] <qwertyoruiop> hax teh xml 2 pwn dah planet
[18:51] <KHendrik> sven_, one question I configured the network manually do I need to configure the domain name
[18:51] <mentoc> qwertyoruiop, such 1337 hax if it's a plaintext xml file
[18:52] <SPELINAX> Hola
[18:52] <SPELINAX> hola
[18:52] <SPELINAX> alguien tiene los repositorios
[18:53] <KHendrik> aloha
[18:53] <oCean> !es | SPELINAX
[18:53] <SPELINAX> de bajar las herramientas de backtrack para ubuntu
[18:53] <john> Is there any easy way to manage services in ubuntu?
[18:53] <trijntje> i'm looking for the apt configuration file (apt.conf), it is not present in /etc/apt. Has apt.conf been moved somewhere else or should I just create it in /etc/apt myself?
[18:53] <CrackerJack> trism were can i get skypre wrapper for maverick
[18:53] <blackshirt> john: graphically or cli ?
[18:53] <CrackerJack> trism were can i get skype wrapper for maverick
[18:54] <blackshirt> trjntje: i think you can (create) apt conf for specific purpose on apt.conf.d directory
[18:55] <SPELINAX> Hola gente alguien se sabe los repositorios de backtrack para ubuntu? me quiero bajar las herramientas PD: Gracias por la atención :D
[18:56] <CrackerJack> SPELIMAX estra a #ubuntu-es
[18:56] <noecc> On an Ubuntu Lucid netbook edition with vga monitor, I can disable the netbook screen using gnome-display-properties yet once logged out the log in screen then appears on the netbook.  Can this too be disabled?
[18:58] <trijntje> blackshirt: ok, ill try that, thanks
[18:58] <nootilus> hello there, is this the place to ask annoying newbies questions to linux-masters? :)
[18:58] <jbrks> nootilus, ubuntu.
[18:59] <nootilus> yes
[18:59] <nootilus> lubuntu actually, but it's a terminal/ssh question
[18:59] <Igoru> i'm trying to compile a PHP extension, but it suddenly dies when the compiling process gets to line "config.status: executing libtool commands". any idea about how to track this problem? :(
[18:59] <rypervenche> nootilus: Go for it.
[18:59] <nootilus> thanks, here we go
[18:59] <AbstractBeliefs> is there a way to pause dd? laptop is having thermal issues, if it is possible to send a signal to pause, it would be great (other suggestions useful too =])
[18:59] <zainu> I'm trying to mount a server on nfs client but getting error  <not in hot:dir format> although etc/exports shows no errors
[19:00] <jbrks> Igoru, try turning on the php log.. for that i dont remember how to (ask #php)
[19:00] <nootilus> I have a torrent/minecraft server machine running with ubuntu. the comp uses rTorrent
[19:00] <Jordan_U> AbstractBeliefs: ctrl+z
[19:00] <nootilus> I wanted to know if there's a way to take control of the rTorrent app with ssh?
[19:00] <rypervenche> !ask | nootilus
[19:00] <macs> I cant hear my friend on skype.
[19:00] <AbstractBeliefs> Jordan_U, thanks
[19:00] <Igoru> jbrks but it's a compiling problem, not php yet... it happens when I run "sudo ./configure"
[19:01] <bead>
[19:01] <rypervenche> nootilus: Yes, you can use screen to be able to SSh into the computer then control the program.
[19:01] <jbrks> nootilus, someone i remember was asking this.. i think there's commands to control it.. "apropos rtorrent"
[19:01] <macs> My sound works but i cant hear anything via skype.
[19:01] <jbrks> nootilus, i cant say how to.. but i think there's control files for it
[19:01] <Jordan_U> AbstractBeliefs: You're welcome. "fg" to bring it back.
[19:01] <AbstractBeliefs> Jordan_U, yeah, im supposed to know those two, i just derped
[19:01] <AbstractBeliefs> Jordan_U, i was hung up on finding something like dds response to USR1
[19:02] <nootilus> what do you mean by "control files"?
[19:02] <AbstractBeliefs> Jordan_U, thanks, man :D
[19:02] <jbrks> nootilus, you get any results with "apropos rtorrent" ?
[19:02] <jbrks> nootilus, are you forced to leave your ssh connection program opened?
[19:02] <nootilus> hold on, I'm trying (discovering the command apropos :)
[19:03] <Lunar_Lamp>
[19:03] <Jordan_U> AbstractBeliefs: You're welcome :)
[19:03] <jbrks> nootilus, if you're forced to leave the ssh window opened, then maybe you should be using "screen -RR"
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> i use ssh and screen
[19:03] <tziOm> How do I install kernel 3.0.4 on 11.04?
[19:03] <nootilus> apropos rtorrent gives: rtorrent (1) - a BitTorrent client for ncurses
[19:04] <zainu> I'm trying to mount a server on nfs client but getting error  <not in hot:dir format> although etc/exports shows no errors
[19:04] <jbrks> nootilus, see my previous replies..
[19:04] <nootilus> jbrks, the point is that I don't want to keep the term opened all the time from the client, which is a small netbook I use as a nomad machine
[19:04] <jbrks> nootilus, with screen -RR, you can close the ssh window..
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> zainu: you need to restart the nfs-kernel
[19:05] <jbrks> nootilus, then when reconnect with ssh, you simply type screen -RR again..
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> or screen -dr
[19:05] <qwertyoruiop> sup
[19:05] <zainu> done that but error persists
[19:05] <osxlover> sup qwertyoruiop
[19:05] <qwertyoruiop> how can i install big rigs over the road racing?
[19:05] <qwertyoruiop> on ubuntu?
[19:05] <qwertyoruiop> i saw a video on yt, its hilarious
[19:05] <osxlover> how can i install os x on my ubuntu?
[19:05] <qwertyoruiop> want to try it on this crap computer
[19:06] <nootilus> I'm trying that, jbrks
[19:06] <qwertyoruiop> it's only capable of running xubuntu 8.04
[19:06] <qwertyoruiop> rofl
[19:06] <osxlover> i have a 20mb ram computer how can i install ubuntu on os x on a 20 mb video crap computer of ubuntuos x?
[19:06] <nootilus> errr, jbrks, that showed "new screen" then I have a new blank terminal screen
[19:06] <jbrks> nootilus, ya.. you run programs under screen
[19:07] <qwertyoruiop> yayy, just found a funny game
[19:07] <jbrks> nootilus, you'd have to close your non-screen started rtorrent,
[19:07] <qwertyoruiop> get an 1gbit server
[19:07] <jbrks> nootilus, you run apps inside screen
[19:07] <nootilus> oooh ok got it
[19:07] <rypervenche> nootilus: Check my personal message.
[19:07] <qwertyoruiop> while :; do wget <insert_ubuntu_iso_url>; done
[19:07] <qwertyoruiop> :D
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> nootilus: do you 'scree' first and then 'ssh' or the other way round?
[19:07] <qwertyoruiop> pretty awesome 4 speed tests
[19:07] <qwertyoruiop> keepin it running since yesterday, used ~10tb of bandwidth
[19:07] <qwertyoruiop> ftw
[19:07] <qwertyoruiop> :D
[19:08] <jbrks> nootilus, "ctl-a .. c " starts a new screen..
[19:08] <qwertyoruiop> inbound bandwidth for free = win
[19:08] <jbrks> nootilus, "ctl-a .. <spacebar> " cycles..
[19:08] <osxlover> i hate linux
[19:08] <osxlover> i hate linux
[19:08] <osxlover> i hate linux
[19:08] <FloodBot1> osxlover: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !ot
[19:08] <fellayaboy> !gnome
[19:08] <jbrks> nootilus, "ctl-a .. ? " shows the other shortcuts
[19:08] <qwertyoruiop> !the game
[19:08] <ihatelinux> lol
[19:08] <qwertyoruiop> fuck
[19:08] <qwertyoruiop> it doesnt work
[19:08] <Decepticon> hi people!
[19:08] <ihatelinux> the game
[19:08] <FloodBot1> qwertyoruiop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:08] <ihatelinux> you
[19:08] <Decepticon> hi!
[19:08] <ihatelinux> just lost
[19:08] <FloodBot1> ihatelinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <Decepticon> I have big problem with ubuntu
[19:09] <Decepticon> please help me!
[19:09] <fellayaboy> how do i install gnome panel and the other toolset i dont wnat unity
[19:09] <qwertyoruiop> !ot
[19:09] <fellayaboy> !gnome-panel
[19:09] <qwertyoruiop> >:O
[19:09] <qwertyoruiop> !ot
[19:09] <qwertyoruiop> bitch
[19:09] <FloodBot1> qwertyoruiop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <ihatelinux> THE GAME; YOU; JUST; LOST;
[19:09] <qwertyoruiop> y u no work
[19:09] <ihatelinux> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[19:09] <Decepticon> the problem is that the ubuntu 10.04  have in my laptop the compiz and smerald fine but when the update so dont have compiz fusion
[19:11] <fellayaboy> how do i replace unity i dont want it
[19:11] <fellayaboy> <<ubuntu 11.10
[19:12] <trijntje> fellayaboy: what do you want to replace it with?
[19:12] <ihatelinux|noban> nobody can ban me :P
[19:12] <fellayaboy> gnome3
[19:12] <trijntje> fellayaboy: then you can install the package gnome
[19:12] <fellayaboy> how
[19:12] <ihatelinux|noban> lololololololoo
[19:14] <ihatelinux|noban> trash ubuntu, get os x
[19:16] <qwertyoruiop> 'sup
[19:16] <qwertyoruiop> ;D
[19:16] <iloveios> sup qwerty :P
[19:16] <iloveios> hahahahaha
[19:16] <iloveios> no way of banin ipv6 hosts
[19:18] <tpyo> "cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?) - what does this mean?
[19:18] <tpyo> im trying to update-grub
[19:18] <tpyo> i just chrooted from a usb live to the hdd
[19:18] <tpyo> did i screw up the chroot or is this a new problem?
[19:18] <blackshirt> typo: are you running chroot ?
[19:18] <tpyo> i did a chroot
[19:18] <tpyo> so now im root@ubunutu
[19:19] <ehsansn> Hi Im Running Ubuntu 11.10 when I connect my mobile phone to pc via USB at first its read/write enable , I go to a folder and come back and see that everything is now readonly.I tried remounting in a read and write enabled folder but its still the same
[19:19] <tpyo> instead of ubuntu@ubuntu
[19:19] <tpyo> and hopefully running in that location i specified
[19:19] <root____> hmmm
[19:19] <beakybal4> 0_0
[19:19] <blackshirt> typo: have you mount dev on your chroot environment ?
[19:19] <ehsansn> what?
[19:19] <AbstractBeliefs> tpyo, no, chroot changes the root of the filesystem (ie, /dev will be on the hd now, not the usb). you are looking for sudo
[19:19] <root____> 'sup
[19:20] <tpyo> <3 blackshirt
[19:20] <tpyo> what does mount dev do?
[19:20] <tpyo> im new to all this
[19:20] <iloveios> ubuntu is crap
[19:20] <iloveios> ubuntu is crap
[19:20] <iloveios> ubuntu is crap
[19:20] <iloveios> ubuntu is crap
[19:20] <iloveios> ubuntu is crap
[19:20] <FloodBot1> iloveios: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:21] <osum> :o
[19:21] <osum> lol
[19:21] <osum> pangolin: ++
[19:21] <Resistance> o.O
[19:21] <ehsansn> any answer for me?
[19:21] <osum> ehsansn: depends what the question is ;)
[19:22] <tpyo> so i ran update-grub, it complained about lack of sys, i mounted sys, i still have warninigs grep: /proc/mounts: no such file or directory and the same for /proc/swaps. Shuold i care about these errors?
[19:22] <ehsansn> when I connect my mobile phone to pc via USB at first its read/write enable , I go to a folder and come back and see that everything is now readonly.I tried remounting in a read and write enabled folder but its still the same
[19:23] <jbrks> tpyo, what edition ubuntu is this?
[19:23] <mark_> Help please! I can't get wifi working on a Dell Vostro 1015, runnign Ubuntu 11.10
[19:23] <jbrks> tpyo, you sure you not using grub2?
[19:23] <tpyo> xubuntu
[19:23] <tpyo> i just ran update-grub2 as well
[19:23] <tpyo> but that provided the same warnings
[19:24] <ikonia> tpyo: you should have a bind mount for /proc which should contain mount and swaps
[19:24] <ikonia> tpyo: if they are not there, you should be concerned
[19:24] <tpyo> so: mount proc?
[19:24] <trijntje> mark_: what have you tried so far?
[19:24] <ikonia> tpyo: there should be a bind mount for proc
[19:24] <ikonia> !grub2 > tpyo
[19:24] <jbrks> tpyo, is this from a cd rescue? you should be following a guide for this
[19:24] <ikonia> tpyo: check that guide
[19:24] <ikonia> (ubottu just sent you a pm)
[19:25] <Igoru> i'm trying to compile a PHP extension, but it suddenly dies when the compiling process gets to line "config.status: executing libtool commands". any idea about how to track this problem? :(
[19:25] <mark_> trijntje everything I could find! Loaded new drivers etc. New to the Unix world so working partially blind
[19:25] <tpyo> i haven't installed windows
[19:25] <tpyo> so I don't need that guide?
[19:25] <ikonia> LmtdAt: work through the debug of th eoutput
[19:25] <ikonia> tpyo: that doesn't matter, the re-application of grub is the same process
[19:25] <LmtdAt> ikonia; I'll work through it, but I don't know what you're talking about.
[19:26] <tpyo> okay, well i ran mount proc and then re-ran update-grub2 and it seems to be happy now
[19:26] <ikonia> LmtdAt: when it dies it will through out errors, work them through
[19:26] <LmtdAt> ikonia; When what dies through out errors?
[19:26] <ikonia> LmtdAt: "throws" sorry
[19:26] <LmtdAt> ikonia; When what dies throws out errors?
[19:26] <nobanforme> no ban for me
[19:26] <nobanforme> no ban for me
[19:27] <ikonia> nobanforme: stop it please.
[19:27] <nobanforme> nononono
[19:27] <ikonia> LmtdAt: yes, it will throw out errors, warnings
[19:27] <LmtdAt> ikonia; What will throw out errors?  Did I ask you a question or something?
[19:27] <Jordan_U> tpyo: "update-grub" does not install grub.
[19:27] <ikonia> LmtdAt: sorry, it was Igoru
[19:28] <ikonia> LmtdAt: apologies
[19:28]  * LmtdAt kisses ikonia
[19:28] <tpyo> Jordan_U, im trying to fix what appears to be a broken install
[19:28] <tpyo> but yea it still seems to be broken
[19:28] <tpyo> D:
[19:29] <trijntje> mark_: have you tried searching for extra drivers in the menu while connected to the internet? Ubuntu usually finds all required drivers
[19:29] <mark_> Could you tell me how to do that?
[19:29] <Igoru> LmtdAt no errors... it simply dies.
[19:30] <tpyo> i dont get it... whenever I install ubunutu all I get is a flashing underscore when it reboots after the installation.... last person recommended i update grub2, is it possible the installation failed to even install it
[19:30] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | tpyo
[19:30] <LmtdAt> Igoru; What simply dies?
[19:30] <Igoru> LmtdAt http://pastebin.com/jTz5CDgz
[19:30] <LmtdAt> This channel is a mad house!
[19:30] <Jordan_U> tpyo: My guess is that grub is being installed, but to a different drive than the one your BIOS is booting.
[19:30] <LmtdAt> Igoru; Is this a bash script?
[19:30] <ikonia> Igoru: that was sucessful
[19:31] <ikonia> Igoru: you have sucessfully generated the configure files
[19:31] <tpyo> thanks Jordan_U, I do only have one drive on this machine though.....
[19:31] <Igoru> LmtdAt it's me trying to compile PHP PDO_OCI extension.
[19:31] <LmtdAt> Igoru; Why would you ask me about compiling PHP?
[19:31] <blueblue22> does anyone know how to install ubuntu to its own artition?
[19:31] <Igoru> ikonia shouldnt it finish saying something like "you can now run make" etc?
[19:31] <LmtdAt> Igoru; I don't know anything about php.
[19:31] <ikonia> Igoru: you have done the configure, now build it
[19:31] <blueblue22> partition*
[19:31] <ikonia> Igoru: not always
[19:31] <LmtdAt> Igoru; Are you a bot?
[19:31] <Jordan_U> tpyo: Then the boot info script ouptput would be that much more useful for trying to debug this.
[19:31] <Igoru> surely not lol
[19:32] <blueblue22> does anyone know how to install ubunt to its own partition?
[19:32] <tpyo> Jordan_U,  awesome then I shall run it
[19:32] <ikonia> blueblue22: use the installer to select it's own partition
[19:32] <ikonia> !install | blueblue22
[19:32] <Igoru> LmtdAt my question started about compiling a php extension :P
[19:32] <LmtdAt> Igoru; Was your question aimed at me?
[19:32] <LmtdAt> Igoru; Did I give you any reason to think I would help you?
[19:32] <Igoru> no but i thought you talked to me, or soemthind like that
[19:33] <Igoru> u cite me sometime ago.
[19:33] <blueblue22> ikonia i tried to but it says not root?
[19:33] <LmtdAt> Igoru; I don't think so.
[19:33] <blueblue22> no
[19:33] <Igoru> !pastebin
[19:33] <blueblue22> no*
[19:33] <ikonia> blueblue22: what ? you booted from an install CD and the installer says you're not root
[19:34] <Igoru> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/738498/
[19:34] <jbrks> Igoru, your question is about compiling something that will be used for php. It's not a php script.
[19:34] <jbrks> Igoru, http://php.net/manual/en/ref.pdo-oci.php
[19:34] <blueblue22> no root fe system is defined???
[19:34] <blueblue22> it says that
[19:34] <LmtdAt> blueblue22; that sucks.
[19:34] <blueblue22> yes from a cd
[19:34] <theextra> HELOOOO
[19:34] <ikonia> Igoru: you're missing libraries
[19:34] <Igoru> jbrks the manual is of no help. i've already tried it and a bunch of other tutorials...
[19:34] <ikonia> blueblue22: so define one for "/" - that is the root file system
[19:34] <theextra> i need held with obonto
[19:34] <ikonia> blueblue22: read the links ubottu just gave you
[19:34] <LmtdAt> theextra; How are you doing?  Do you need help compiling your php script?
[19:35] <Igoru> ikonia the clntsh library?
[19:35] <monstaRtruck> man dont u hate debianers
[19:35] <oxjb> ouai sefyu !
[19:35] <oxjb> booba !
[19:35] <ikonia> Igoru: that's not a library
[19:35] <monstaRtruck> they are such aholes
[19:35] <oxjb> lallala
[19:35] <ikonia> monstaRtruck: please stop
[19:35] <blueblue22> i did define one i choose sda3 which is ext4
[19:35] <theextra> obonto did not start anymore
[19:35] <jbrks> Igoru, did you read the comment list?
[19:35] <monstaRtruck> wtf
[19:35] <Igoru> ikonia sorry, i'm not used to compiling things. what's the libraries i'm missing?
[19:35] <monstaRtruck> u on speed
[19:35] <ikonia> monstaRtruck: tone down the language
[19:35] <theextra> it only says i shoukd check hard drive or abort with C
[19:35] <monstaRtruck> sory
[19:36] <monstaRtruck> i thot i was baned
[19:36] <monstaRtruck> i thot u baned me
[19:36] <blueblue22> i did define one i chose to install at sda3 which is ext 4
[19:36] <geoffmcc> don't feed the troll. he will go away if u ignore him
[19:36] <theextra> it only says i shoukd check hard drive or abort with C
[19:36] <ikonia> Igoru: I'd have to look into it, never checked that one.
[19:36] <trijntje> mark_: sure, go to the dash (main menu) in search for driver
[19:36] <monstaRtruck> whats the best way to record desktop
[19:36] <theextra> nobody helps m,e
[19:36] <monstaRtruck> i tried recordmydesktop but its super slow
[19:37] <blueblue22> this sucks
[19:37] <blueblue22> that link doesnt have ne ifo i need
[19:37] <theextra> obonto did not start anymore
[19:37] <theextra> it only says i shoukd check hard drive or abort with C
[19:37] <theextra> it only says i shoukd check hard drive or abort with C
[19:37] <ikonia> blueblue22: it does if you READ it
[19:37] <blueblue22> why the hell cant i install to a ext4 parttion?/
[19:37] <Veggen> theextra: let it continue. it will finish.
 get a new hard drive
[19:38] <theextra> veggen really
[19:38] <blueblue22> i did it is for the masses
[19:38] <monstaRtruck> ssh
 get SSD
[19:38] <blueblue22> has nothing i need
[19:38] <robin0800> blueblue22, it should be the root of the drive ie sda
[19:38] <theextra> veggen really
[19:38] <Jordan_U> blueblue22: Like I said before, I think you're making things much more difficult than they need to be.
[19:38] <Igoru> ikonia thank you for any help you can give me... i'm a little bit experienced with ubuntu, but never had to compile anything, and I got lost with this error.
[19:39] <blueblue22> ok jordan if you know how then tell me
[19:39] <theextra> have i wait
[19:39] <mark_> trijntje: It doesn't show any drivers
[19:39] <tpyo> Jordan_U, sorry to keep troubling you but now I have the results.txt, what is it that I am specifically looking for to identify the issue?
[19:39] <theextra> until ii am in a row
[19:39] <mark_> I get this when I list devices
[19:39] <Igoru> ikonia "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lclntsh" what does this mean?
[19:39] <mark_>  *-network UNCLAIMED
[19:39] <mark_>                 description: Network controller
[19:39] <mark_>                 product: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[19:39] <mark_>                 vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[19:39] <mark_>                 physical id: 0
[19:39] <FloodBot1> mark_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <ikonia> Igoru: it means it can't link against a library (as it's not there)
[19:40] <monstaRtruck> peeepz
[19:40] <trijntje> mark_: and if you search for jockey?
[19:40] <monstaRtruck> how do i record my desktop
[19:40] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Please post it to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and post a link here.
[19:40] <Igoru> ikonia lclntsh library?
[19:40] <mark_> I know where the jockey log is, one sec
[19:40] <jbrks> Igoru, hint -> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/features/instant-client/index-100365.html
[19:40] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: Do the two ext4 partitions you have now have any files in them currently?
[19:40] <ikonia> Igoru: we've just had this conversation, NO
[19:40] <trijntje> mark_: not the log, the program itself
[19:40] <Igoru> ikonia sorry lol
[19:40] <blueblue22> no jordan
[19:41] <atoi> I'm trying to find the multiverse repository for ubuntu 10.04...
[19:41] <atoi> but I don't know where to search.
[19:41] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: OK. Why do you have two of them?
[19:41] <tpyo> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/738509
[19:41] <lucy_c> hi
[19:41] <blueblue22> 1 for /home files one for ubuntu
[19:42] <theextra> i have to
[19:42] <theextra> do some excretions
[19:42] <jbrks> Igoru, you can look at this too https://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1042973
[19:42] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: Why do you want a separate /home partition?
[19:42] <tpyo> i presently have attached a usb key (that im booting from, 8 gig) and a 60 gig HDD
[19:42] <jbrks> Igoru, if i were you i'd give up. But if I were me I would be able to do it.
[19:42] <jbrks> lol
[19:42] <monstaRtruck> omg this chanel is problems overflow
[19:42] <jbrks> Igoru, and I am me! but i'm not doing that right now! ;-)
[19:42] <mark_> trijntje: no I don't
[19:42] <blueblue22> idk it seems easier
[19:42] <monstaRtruck> cant ever record desktop
[19:43] <lucy_c> quick question. when i right click on a file and choose "open with other application" it doesn't seem to show me any way of selecting options not on the list. anyone know how to do this? (11.10)
[19:43] <blueblue22> wat difference does it make
[19:43] <blueblue22> cant get ubuntu on either drive anyay
[19:43] <theextra> i have to
[19:43] <theextra> do some excretions
[19:43] <Igoru> jbrks what do you mean?
[19:43] <monstaRtruck> this chanel is like a kindergarten
[19:43] <jbrks> Igoru, all i can say is study the autoconf.. i think you have enough info from its make rules..
[19:43] <monstaRtruck> wth is going on
[19:43] <trijntje> lucy_c: I think you can  add a custom command, if you know it for the program you want
[19:44] <theextra> i have to
[19:44] <theextra> do some excretions
[19:44] <trijntje> mark_: what do you mean?
[19:44] <tpyo> Jordan_U oh sorry I forgot to mention your name when I just posted it, sorry for repost if you saw it the first time :D : : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/738509/
[19:44] <lucy_c> trijntje: any idea how to add a custom command. i'm failing to find an option for it. most odd.
[19:44] <mark_> trijntje: I don't know where the jockey pgm is
[19:45] <phreeon> Hey all.
[19:45] <theextra> i have to
[19:45] <theextra> do some excretions
[19:45] <trijntje> mark_: what desktop environment are you using? Do you have a big bar at the left of you screen?
[19:45] <sethetter> Has anyone here installed ubuntu 11.1 on their macbook pro?
[19:45] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: That is very odd. Did you use automatic or manual partitioning in the installer?
[19:45] <theextra> i have to
[19:45] <theextra> do some excretions
[19:45] <phreeon> I want to reinstall Ubuntu on my laptop. I have three OS's (Ubuntu, Win7, and another linux distro) and I want ubuntu to overwrite the previous ubuntu installation and the other linux distro, but not Windows.
[19:46] <phreeon> How do I go about doing this?
[19:46] <theextra> into toilet
[19:46] <lucy_c> theextra: shut up troll.
[19:46] <ikonia> theextra: enough now
[19:46] <theextra> no its not troll
[19:46] <theextra> i only want that nobody writes me
[19:46] <theextra> with my problem
[19:46] <tpyo> Jordan_U_bak automatic
[19:46] <mark_> yes when I move the cursor there, I thnk the desktop is called unity
[19:46] <tpyo> Jordan_U_bak, what is odd?
[19:46] <trijntje> phreeon: start from live cd/usb, delete ubuntu + other distro, leave the space empty. Then do a regular install, the installer should default to the empty space
[19:47] <phreeon> Delete using the advanced partitioning tool?
[19:47] <john> ppl why there isn't a service manager yet that supports both upstart and sysv?
[19:47] <pinguy_> how do i stop ubuntu from making my hard drive spin 24/7 without going into sleep ?
[19:47] <Jordan_U> tpyo: It's odd that somehow Ubuntu's installer did not install grub to any of the drives currently plugged in.
[19:47] <trijntje> mark_: thats right, if you click on the top item of that bar you will open the dash/main menu. If you type jockey there you should get the program (it can be named differently)
[19:48] <tpyo> Jordan_U, is it the first line that states this? : => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda.
[19:48] <phreeon> trijntje, also will your method take care of the bootloader too?
[19:48] <tpyo> i.e. how do I identify this is the case without someone as awesome as you helping me? :)
[19:48] <trijntje> phreeon: you can youse gparted from the live cd/usb. Just pick 'try ubuntu without installing' to prepare the drive, and then click 'install ubuntu' when you are done
[19:48] <pinguy_> my drive stays heated ... my computer can just be sitting around and nto doing anything because im not using it
[19:48] <phreeon> Awesome
[19:48] <phreeon> Thank you
[19:48] <mark_> trijntje: it picked up a driver package, but it is the same one which I tried to load yesterday and it failed.
[19:48] <Igoru> jbrks the problem is that i'm new to compiling process. i cant even really understand what you told me to do :S
[19:48] <trijntje> phreeon: dont forget to backup your data first! messing with partitions can cause dataloss
[19:49] <phreeon> Yup
[19:49] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Yes, that's the important set of lines.
[19:49] <GTRsdk> what program is Disk Utility?
[19:49] <tpyo> Jordan_U, so this means blinky underscore is a symptom of no bootloader?
[19:49] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Do you still have that chroot set up?
[19:49] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Correct.
[19:49] <pinguy_> any body know?
[19:49] <tpyo> which is odd cause I have another machine where it went blinky underscore after the bootloader D:
[19:50] <tpyo> no i'd have to redo the chroot
[19:50] <tpyo> but thats not too hard
[19:50] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Please do.
[19:50] <pinguy_> is there a hard drive cool utility or somehting ?
[19:51] <JoFo> Hello
[19:51] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: I would highly recommend that you delete both ext4 partitions, leaving the free space available, and use the automatic partitioning option of the Ubuntu installer.
[19:51] <pinguy_> noflushd said it will not work with the new linux kernal
[19:52] <blueblue22> ya i figured that out hanks tho
[19:52] <pinguy_> perhaps if i use ext2 instead of ext 4? would that fix this ?
[19:52] <blueblue22> so ubuntu can install on ntfs partition?
[19:52] <blueblue22> also you cant set up a swap if you use the installer
[19:52] <pinguy_> does any one know anything about hard drives ?
[19:52] <tpyo> Jordan_U, okay... now I need to INSTALL grub2 as opposed to just trying to update it? :)
[19:52] <blueblue22> which is garbageeeeeeeeeeeee
[19:53] <coolball> pinguy_: they contain magnetized disks
[19:53] <trijntje> mark_: what do you mean with it faild to load?
[19:53] <tpyo> Jordan_U, or am I poking about for a different reason?
[19:53] <JoFo> On some mailing lists, I sometimes get messages such as
[19:53] <JoFo> The voiceless bilabial nasal was a problem and I finally settled on using a dot
[19:53] <JoFo> (over or under) for alll the voiceless sonorants: <ṁ>, <ḷ>, <ṙ>, and ȝ̇<ȝ with
[19:53] <JoFo> overdot>.
[19:53] <R1ch13086> pinguy_: lol, what exactly are you asking?
[19:53] <FloodBot1> JoFo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:53] <pinguy_> coolball,  tanks ...
[19:53] <JoFo> Which software could I use to easily convert the &#… into something readable?
[19:53] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: Also delete any swap partition you may have made ahead of time. It's much easier to just let the installer create partitions as needed.
[19:53] <blueblue22> ya but you cant have a swao if you use the instaler
[19:53] <JoFo> (I didn’t flood.)
[19:53] <blueblue22> to instal ubuntu in windowa
[19:54] <blueblue22> is that right>
[19:54] <blueblue22> ?
[19:54] <blueblue22> can i have a swap stil?
[19:54] <pinguy_> well, i would like to keep my laptop hard drive from staying heated when it is only sitting at the table (on ac power) and not being used.. i will come back from work or sleep or simply a couple of hours of being away from it and my hard drive is still heated... as if it never gets a break ... only in sleep mode and the like does it get a break
[19:54] <coolball> pinguy_: I know you can have 4 partitions and more if you make logical volumes
[19:54] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: Yes. Ubuntu's installer will create a swap partition automatically.
[19:54] <mark_> trijntje: I had error messages  in the jockey log telling me it was blacklisted or somesuch, hence searching for other drivers today and finding some that loaded...do you think I should try it again?
[19:54] <R1ch13086> pinguy_: about the cooling?  there are not any applications that 'cool' hard drives.  there are applications that help you to monitor the tempature...
[19:55] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Yes, but first I'd like to try to debug what went wrong during the install.
[19:55] <wejq> I want to boot my ubuntu 11 live cd without mouse drivers, how to do it ?
[19:55] <tpyo> Jordan_U, awesome, I like your way of thinking
[19:55] <pinguy_> i have 3 coolball , swap, system and a partition for holding personal data...
[19:55] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Can you run "debconf-show grub-pc" from within the chroot and pastebin the output?
[19:55] <mark_> trijntje: it failed again
[19:55] <blueblue22> really what size?
[19:55] <R1ch13086> pinguy_: what tempature is your hard drive?
[19:55] <blueblue22> what size is the swao it creates?
[19:56] <pinguy_> yes, i have temp monitor rich. it has not over heated, it seems to me it should get a rest when i am not using it for extended time rlchl3086 .. temp currently = 109 f
[19:56] <blueblue22> how big wil the swap be?
[19:56] <mark_> trijntje: 2011-11-14 19:55:05,410 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver
[19:57] <blueblue22> does ubuntu install to ntfs fle system?
[19:57] <trijntje> mark_: have you tried searching for the exact error message from the log?
[19:57] <tpyo> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/738525
[19:57] <iceroot> blueblue22: no
[19:57] <trijntje> blueblue22: swap twice your ram, I think the installer has an option to choose ntfs
[19:57] <reza> need help configuring graphics card
[19:57] <blueblue22> what do i want to instal ubuntu to ext 4 right?
[19:58] <brjannc> pinguy_: generally speaking, spinning your drives up and down is harder on them than leaving them spin
[19:58] <iceroot> blueblue22: yes
[19:58] <brjannc> pinguy_: so unless you have a specific reason to do so, like temperature or power management, i'd recommend leaving them on
[19:58] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: What size swap the installer creates depends on what size drive you have IIRC. I would suggest that you just let it make it whatever size it wants. You can always change it later.
[19:58] <demonax> Hello, I have three hard disks in my PC, I  can mount a disk by clicking on its label using Nautilus, or Disk Utility; however I am unsuccessful when using mount command on the shell to mount existing drive-partition.  The drive location: /dev/sdc1 is listed when using blkid; Also listed when using fdisk -l but without any disk info; When entering: mount /dev/sdc1 /media/space2, I get a...
[19:58] <demonax> ...mount point does not exist error.   Any insight?
[19:59] <prashant_123456> how to add users in ubuntu 11.10 the graphical way ?????
[19:59] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: Just use automatic partitioning. That will do everything needed for you.
[19:59] <nixmaniack> how do i disable the buffered Virtual Terminal<Ctrl+Alt+F1>, I want the original VT ?
[19:59] <trijntje> prashant_123456: configuration center -> useraccounts
[20:00] <brjannc> demonax: for command line mounting, the mount point (which is just an empty directory) needs to exist already. gnome does this for you when using the GUI apps, but mount does not
[20:00] <tpyo> Jordan_U, just for a bit of background, i have tried to install Ubunutu Studio and now Xubunutu on like 3 different laptops and i seem to get this problem in every case so any problem could relate to the two constants present: Me (being an idiot somehow) or the usb drive (that i've used for each installation)
[20:00] <blueblue22> so my whole drive is ntfs now and i wil start the installer
[20:00] <blueblue22> is that rght?
[20:00] <prashant_123456> trijntje, i m using gnome
[20:00] <demonax> brjannc: Thank you kindly!
[20:00] <pinguy_> hmm, ok well then i will not concern myself as much about this ... warn bearings are my main concern ...
[20:01] <tpyo> Jordan_U, although in the case where I installed to a non clean machine (it has win7 on it) grub2 installed fine, appears but if I load into ubuntu I just get blinky underscore, loading into win7 is still okay
[20:01] <trijntje> prashant_123456: it should still have systemsettings
[20:01] <prashant_123456> trijntje, ok thanks now i can see
[20:01] <pinguy_> thanks
[20:01] <prashant_123456> trijntje, thanks
[20:01] <blueblue22> whole drive is ntfs now
[20:01] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: So it looks like Ubuntu's installer did install grub somewhere, but it may have been to a memory card rather than the internal drive. Can you pastebin the output of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/"?
[20:01] <blueblue22> is that okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[20:01] <blueblue22> oops
[20:02] <trijntje> prashant_123456: you're welcome
[20:02] <tpyo> Jordan_U, is that still within the chroot?
[20:02] <Jordan_U_bak> blueblue22: Yes. That sounds good.
[20:02] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Either way will give the same result.
[20:04] <DeviceZer0> hmm. will 11.10 get the new ff soon?
[20:04] <tpyo> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/738535
[20:05] <brjannc> pinguy_: in my experience, bearings (and drives in general) typically give out during spin-up, because they're cold and under more stress when starting up. that's just anecdotal, but comes from lots of experience
[20:06] <flo__> hi I try to instal smplayer from central software ubuntu
[20:06] <pinguy_> thanks for the insight brjannc
[20:06] <Jordan_U> tpyo: That means that the drive that grub was installed to is in fact still connected / inserted (though it may be a memory card).
[20:07] <brjannc> pinguy_: sure thing
[20:07] <Jordan_U> tpyo: Do you have a memory card plugged in at the moment?
[20:07] <tpyo> Jordan_U, yes, I am running from it as this machine doesn't have a CD-ROM
[20:08] <flo__> and I  give install they tell me I a error and after that they tell me to go on http://launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+filebug
[20:08] <trijntje> !error
[20:08] <tpyo> Jordan_U, oh... i also still have an SD card in the system too.... i didn't realise that previously
[20:09] <tpyo> Jordan_U, a 4.1 gb SD, did that show up in any of the previous logs?
[20:09] <flo__> so I try to instal smplayer and they tell me is a problem with the runing program
[20:09] <ErtanERBEK> hi everyone
[20:09] <ErtanERBEK> I need some help for Ubuntu Server Virtualation with qemuKVM
[20:09] <trijntje> flo__: we need to know the exact error you get
[20:09] <jstoone> Hey guys, I've got a red Triangle on the top of my screen, and it says that it fails to fetch extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneric/Release
[20:10] <ErtanERBEK> could you help me
[20:10] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: I think it didn't show up in the boot info script output due to some bug in bootinfo script.
[20:10] <tpyo> Jordan_U, so.... if I remove that SD card and re-install we might be living in peachy street you think?
[20:11] <reza> Help needed in configuring nvidia geforce 4 420 that worked well with 9.10 through all upgrades to 10.04
[20:11] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Yes, but that's not neccessary.
[20:11] <hylinux> hi, guys, anyone have some experinences about how to install ubuntu 11.10 on macbook pro 8.1?
[20:11] <reza> when installed 11.10 yesterday, screen resolution degraded to 720x350
[20:11] <hylinux> the new version for 2011?
[20:11] <reza> have not been able to sort this out
[20:11] <reza> Help!
[20:11] <tpyo> Jordan_U, well.... i'm looking for an easily repeatable process to learn ;)
[20:12] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: If your BIOS can boot from SD card you should be able to boot your Ubuntu install by selecting the SD card as the boot device. But that's not really important. To get grub installed to your internal drive instead go back to the chroot and run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc".
[20:13] <bobweaver> hello there I have a question about ubuntu  Is there any "local teams" that hold live classrooms ? The reason why I ask is the other day I wnt downtown and handed out free live cd. and here are the 2 main questions that I got 1 so I just put this cd in my computer? and 2) where can I learn about this do you teach classes
[20:13] <jboyjetgrl> anyone had any success with getting Asus N61Jq built in webcam working in ubuntu
[20:14] <spacebug-> how can I make alt+tab only switch through programs on the active desktop?
[20:14] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: That command will ask you some questions, if I remember correctly the first two will be about kernel parameters. Leave those two at their defaults (which may be blank) and continue on to the "install devices" question. At that question you should have the opportunity to uncheck your memory card as an install device and check your internal drive instead. To select / deselect a device use space bar, press enter when you're do
[20:15] <tpyo> Jordan_U, dev/sda (checked) dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb?
[20:15] <tpyo> Jordan_U, its not outputting the disk sizes so its difficult to tell :)
[20:16] <tpyo> Jordan_U, and the output from bootdiskinfo called the two drives the same names
[20:16] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Never a partition like sda1. Give me a second to look over the logs to see which is your internal drive.
[20:16] <tpyo> Jordan_U, sdb is the usb I think
[20:17] <blackboxer> make my second screen work
[20:17] <blackboxer> please
[20:17] <tpyo> Jordan_U, unless this app is detecting only what is plugged in, in which case sda (as I have unplugged the sd card now)
[20:17] <go8765> Hello. Can anybody help me please to  start manage mouse moving by keyboard in xfce?
[20:17] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: sda is your internal drive. sdb is the USB drive.
[20:17] <jstoone> When i do a "sudo apt-get update" it fails to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneric/Release any one having the same problems?
[20:18] <jboyjetgrl> great support in this joint.
[20:19] <tpyo> Jordan_U, weird... if I select sda (already selected) it tells me that i have chosen not to install grub to any devices
[20:19] <surskitty> my laptop refused to boot this morning after overheating but now does.  how do I check that the file system's fine and so on?
[20:19] <tpyo> Jordan_U, should I just choose sda1 for giggles?
[20:20] <jboyjetgrl> is it possible that the reason my laptop's built-in webcam isn't working is that my video cards propietary drivers haven't been installed?
[20:20] <robinsch> wow
[20:20] <ErtanERBEK> we can use hard limit for qemu-kvm ?
[20:20] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: No.
[20:20] <robinsch> I like lts version 10x more than the regular one
[20:20] <robinsch> its just perfect
[20:20] <h4ck3rz> Hello Guys :)
[20:20] <tpyo> Jordan_U, :).. okay, shall I just re-install without that troublesome SD card this time?
[20:21] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Remember that it's space bar to select and deselect, *not* Enter.
[20:21] <tpyo> ... Jordan_U .... looks sheepish... oh
[20:21] <blackboxer> My second screen doesn't work. I am using proprietary drivers put in by ubuntu on this new install. They are nvidia
[20:21] <tpyo> Jordan_U, sorry, my bad
[20:21] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Common mistake :)
[20:21] <tpyo> Jordan_U, k its finished
[20:22] <tpyo> Jordan_U, shall I reboot and enjoy life without a blinky underscore?
[20:22] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: You should be done now then. Try rebooting.
[20:22] <sandertje> totem movie player is not working properly: i'm listening to a stream, and it's not fetching the correct metadata. it's still saying i'm listening to the song that played 50 minutes ago, when i started the stream. anyone have a fix?
[20:23] <jboyjetgrl> anyone gotten ubuntu to work with a built in webcam?
[20:23] <sandertje> yes
[20:23] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: works perfectly on my laptop
[20:23] <blackboxer> nobody knows the trouble I know
[20:23] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: do you have cheese installed?
[20:23] <jboyjetgrl> hmm, mine doesn't work. yes i have cheese installed.
[20:24] <blackboxer> I accidently loaded a sinister LKM on my corporate server
[20:24] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: your webcam should be in /dev/video0 ... do you have that file?
[20:24] <blackboxer> I need to fix it before upper management finds out
[20:25] <jboyjetgrl> yeah, it's there sandertje
[20:25] <tpyo> Jordan_U, you are a gentleman, a scholar, a poet and a true example to all of humankind. You tolerated my stupidity and solved this problem of my own crafting while also providing me with the tools to analyse (probably poorly) my own future issues with installation. I thank you from the bottom of my heart to the tips of the heavens. I have now successfully booted into the wonderous world of Xubuntu from my HDD.
[20:26] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: if you go to cheese, edit->preferences... what does it say at device?
[20:27] <jboyjetgrl> it's greyed out actually; not selectable
[20:27] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: You're welcome. And I would disagree that this was a problem of your own creation. Ubuntu's installer shouldn't have installed grub to your SD card, and I plan to file a bug report about it.
[20:27] <arcsky> i did delete some files in /etc/freeradius and when i remove and purge its not coming back when i install it again. what can i do?
[20:27] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: same here, but does it say anything.... something like 'integrated laptop webcam' or along those lines?
[20:28] <jboyjetgrl> no, it doesn't
[20:29] <jboyjetgrl> i'm thinking perhaps it has something to do with my video drivers but i'm not sure. the propietary drivers aren't installed.
[20:29] <tpyo> Jordan_U, oh really? have I been part of a use case that might save future generations of ubuntu installers from the same problem? If so, thats marvelously terrific. As opposed to time wasted this will become time well spent saving future generations this time. Most awesome! :)
[20:29] <jboyjetgrl> for my ATI HD 5730 Radeon
[20:29] <Jordan_U_bak> tpyo: Indeed :)
[20:30] <tpyo> Jordan_U, is there any more information you need from me to correctly file the report?
[20:30] <Jordan_U> tpyo: No.
[20:30] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: that shouldn't matter.....
[20:31] <jboyjetgrl> that's weird, it shows in dev folder but not in cheese
[20:31] <tpyo> Jordan_U, hoorah! Well thank you once more kind sir! :)
[20:31] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam/Troubleshooting#Picture_is_Dark
[20:31] <Jordan_U> tpyo: You're welcome :)
[20:32] <fab__> comment joindre ubunutu.fr
[20:32] <fab__> ./join #ubuntu.fr
[20:32] <jboyjetgrl> sandertje, i don't know if this was a mistake , but i swear i saw video0. now theres no video0. only video1
[20:33] <fab__> bonsoir a tout le monde
[20:33] <jboyjetgrl> ok, ill check it out
[20:33] <asstylz> Je viens quémander un petit peu d'aide. J'ai un problème avec Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity ou Gnome-Shell). Je cherche simplement un client pour communiquer en Video avec les gens utilisant MSN ou Skype. Croyez vous que c'est réalisable? J'ai éssayé ma caméra elle est fonctionnelle, mais Skype m'affiche un écran noir à la place de mon image de caméra. Ensuite j'ai éssayé Amsn, et le client ne démarre tout simplement pas. Est c
[20:33] <asstylz> e que quelqu'un peut me renseigner s'il vous plait?
[20:33] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: ah, that could be it..... you could try that step....
[20:33] <genii-around> !fr | asstylz
[20:35] <woot1337> hello
[20:35] <woot1337> i was wondering what is the best sip client for ubuntu
[20:36] <jboyjetgrl> interesting, "unable to unopen device; check too see if device is connected" ... maybe a hardware issue
[20:36] <trijntje> I'm trying to get my oneiric netbook to use an apt-cacher server on my local network. I've created an apt.conf file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d with proxy settings pointing to the apt-cacher service.
[20:37] <trijntje> but when I run apt-get update it hangs waiting for header files, any idea what could be wrong?
[20:37] <Guest16972> Is it possible to elevate the privileges of a process that's already running? Using sudo does not work because I want to run the command as a specific user.
[20:37] <brabuss> exit
[20:37] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: kinda sounds that ubuntu is not recognizing the webcan, yeah.
[20:37] <theadmin> Guest16972: sudo does work, use "sudo -u USERNAME COMMAND"
[20:38] <Guest16972> theadmin: oh I'll try that ! thanks
[20:38] <theadmin> Guest16972: You may also use the uid instead of username
[20:39] <Guest16972> theadmin: hm, doesn't work, maybe it's something in my user's .bashrc that's needed
[20:39] <jboyjetgrl> yeah; i've read that people have been able to get this particular model to work though & that the only problem is an upside down picture. maybe its damaged or something
[20:39] <jboyjetgrl> windows 7 gets an error message for the webcam "this device is already being used"
[20:40] <jboyjetgrl> oh well, i'm just passed warranty too :P
[20:40] <sandertje> jboyjetgrl: i'm sorry, but that really sounds like there's a hardware problem... if you experience it on both OSes
[20:41] <jboyjetgrl> ok, i thought maybe it was just a windows particular issue. thanks for the help
[20:41] <theadmin> lol, webcams...
[20:42] <jboyjetgrl> i think this is the last asus laptop i'll buy, not the only issue i've had
[20:43] <theadmin> asus, huh... Didn't have any problems with mine...
[20:43] <sethetter> i finally have maverick working on my macbook as dual boot with macosx. :)
[20:43] <theadmin> sethetter: Congratulations
[20:43] <TomSlominski> Hello.
[20:43] <sethetter> theadmin: thanks, it feels good. now im getting irssi and vim all personalized.
[20:44] <theadmin> sethetter: :D
[20:44] <Aric> Why is the 32-bit the "recommended" download on the website?  Less drivers support?
[20:44] <sethetter> theadmin: ive been feeling constrained by darwin, had to get back on linux asap