[00:00] <daftykins> if it were me i'd take the disk out and install Windows on a spare, see if it misbehaves too
[00:00] <daftykins> probably easier than disassembly :D
[00:00] <wafflejock> well actually I know this works fine with HDMI->HDMI on 14.04 cause I did test that with a live flash drive to make sure it was something that broke when I went to 16.04
[00:02] <wafflejock> I may try to diff the hdmi.c file I was looking at with the one that would have been in there for the release of 14.04.4 or 5 vs 16.04 but could be changes somewhere else in the stack too not directly related
[00:03] <wafflejock> daftykins, I don't think I have a Windows install disc around either still need to pay them for the 1 win 10 I have installed on my desktop, still have the annoying watermark on there, but don't think I kept the .iso or drive I used around
[00:05] <wafflejock> it's all good I've just gotten my desktop setup for work stuff so I can have the dual monitors still and can fiddle around with the laptop when I've got some time to try things out
[00:07] <daftykins> wafflejock: free download from their win10 pages.
[00:07] <daftykins> direct ISO if you browse there from Linux iirc
[00:09] <wafflejock> daftykins, eh yeah but 14.04 iso I already have shows that it works I can try it again but so far has consistently worked with the HDMI cables, I actually found a bug here https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?component=DRM%2FIntel&product=DRI&resolution=--- when I was digging into this a few days ago where someone had a similar screenshot to what i was seeing but there wasn't any resolution on it yet
[00:10] <wafflejock> daftykins, that's how I got it on my desktop though I just downloaded the iso from MS but haven't activated it yet
[00:10] <wafflejock> thanks for pointing it out though
[00:12] <daftykins> oh i'd forgotten about 14.04.
[00:24] <EriC^^> hey daftykins
[00:24] <EriC^^> those are powerlines :D
[00:24] <daftykins> daym!
[00:24] <EriC^^> lol
[00:24] <EriC^^> lots of those here :D
[00:26] <daftykins> daym: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/25/did_apple_leak_new_macbook_pro_in_system_update/
[03:02] <Bashing-om> Heber Springs, AR: Temp: 57 F (14 C) ~ Mostly Cloudy ~ Humidity: 100% ~ Observed: Tue 25, 21:55
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> !dirtycow
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-protect-your-server-against-the-dirty-cow-linux-vulnerability
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> dax: maybe a trigger if we find right usn?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-5195.html
[06:31] <ducasse> morning all
[06:36] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Just in time .. be seeing my back side soon .
[06:37] <ducasse> how are you Bashing-om? everything good?
[06:38] <Bashing-om> ducasse: All good .. slow on the channel right now . Ya got time for nother cuppa .
[06:39] <ducasse> Bashing-om: yes, drinking tea and browsing through my backlog :)
[06:41] <Bashing-om> Uh huh .. good morn'n - see what can be translated for the good of your compatriots .
[06:42] <ducasse> Bashing-om: almost done now, might look for one more project.
[06:45] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Plenty of them around for those who look and have the abiity :)
[06:51] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i know, i'd prefer it to be something i actually use, though. we'll see, sure i'll find something.
[06:53] <jimmy_> oooo
[06:53] <jimmy_> this is my first time using irc woohoo
[06:54] <Bashing-om> well, ya found a good place .. to exercise intelligence .
[06:54] <popey> Welcome to 1988
[06:55] <jimmy_> haha
[07:17] <Bashing-om> Patience expended , outa here 'till the morrow .
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks


[19:21] <roland> hi all!
[19:21] <roland> is there a default location to store JDBC drivers on debian/ubuntu?
[19:22] <roland> I manually download drivers now and then and would like to know where I can best keep them


[21:05] <neville__> 2Gb on this Linux one
[21:05] <neville__> Well, you see
[21:05] <lingard> why is it windows needs alot more?
[21:05] <Chickentikka> because windows is an inefficiant piece of shite
[21:05] <neville__> When I was growing up, I never had the best of the best hardware, not even close to
[21:05] <stdin> Chickentikka: please watch your language here
[21:05] <Chickentikka> :S ok
[21:05] <neville__> In fact, it was my 386 during the late 1990s
[21:06] <neville__> Pentium 90 until 2003
[21:06] <neville__> Etc
[21:06] <neville__> It taught me to be tolerant =]
[21:06] <Chickentikka> anyway, i still have this PII laptop and its something like 10mb
[21:06] <Chickentikka> and the HD is like 4 GB
[21:06] <lingard> how did people survive?
[21:06] <Chickentikka> so iv seen worst days
[21:06] <stdin> and everyone try to keep on topic (that's Kubuntu support in case you haven't actually read the topic)
[21:06] <neville__> Worse than a still running 386?
[21:08] <lingard> i have a wine install window that won't close
[21:08] <lingard> i've killed the wine server thing but its still there
[21:08] <kyled185> lingard kill -9 <pid>
[21:09] <lingard> can't find the pid
[21:09] <stdin> lingard: use "ps aux|grep wine" too see what is running
[21:10] <lingard> mark     14586  0.0  0.1   2988   764 pts/2    R+   21:09   0:00 grep win
[21:10] <lingard> is 14586 the pid?
[21:11] <genii> put an "e" on end of win
[21:11] <genii> unless bad copy/paste there
[21:11] <stdin> lingard: no, that was the pid of grep
[21:11] <lingard> my bad
[21:12] <lingard> so what do i kill -9?
[21:12] <genii> lingard: But yeah, the # tat far left is the PID
[21:12] <stdin> lingard: kill -9 is a last resort to forcibly terminate a process
[21:13] <lingard> i can't find the program in "task manager" though
[21:14] <lingard> ohh, wait
[21:14] <lingard> found it :)
[21:14] <lingard> why doesn't killing wine kill its related apps?
[21:15] <Bauldrick> anyone know of a program to create .ipkg packages? i.e the program checkinstall can create .debs for you
[21:15] <Kohlrabi> lingard: ask in #winehq :)
[21:15] <DrakeJustice_> lingard: wine runs 'wineserver' as well
[21:18] <lingard> so #package brings up a support group for that package?
[21:27] <mr_edge> hello
[21:28] <radek> hi
[21:28] <smcintyre> !hi
[21:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[21:28] <smcintyre> !ntfs
[21:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[21:28] <smcintyre> !ntfs-3g
[21:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:29] <mr_edge> I'm having problems with realplayer playing music clips on amazon.
[21:31] <acemo> anyone might know what this problem could be? when starting the laptop first everything works normal, after a while when i press "t" laptop thinks i press "t" and arrow up, a while later it thinks i press arrow up at random times, a while later it thinks i press and hold arrow up all the time
[21:32] <genii> mr_edge: sudo apt-get install mplayer and mozilla-mplayer
[21:32] <genii> omit the "and" in there
[21:33] <mr_edge> I'm using the DNA Helix plugin and everything works but no sound
[21:33] <mr_edge> realplayer runs the clip buffers ans plays but no sound
[21:39] <mr_edge> I've searched in the ubuntu fourms and usenet but can't find the answer.
[22:04] <nico666> look this video wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=LoUogk1lRhI
[22:04] <Tm_T> .
[22:08] <lingard> how do i open lirc?
[22:09] <lovedeatm> <----noob. Can one computer assume the ip address of another. If not why and if so how?
[22:09] <lingard> or can anyone help me with http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/board/archive/index.php?t-7085.html ?
[22:10] <lingard> hold that thought
[22:10] <acemo> can u flash ur bios from linux?
[22:11] <lingard> ho am i supposed to enter $ cd /dev/event in the terminal?
[22:12] <lovedeatm> lingard it sounds an app. if your in konquerer it should show under appls or type application:/lirc also you can use kfind to locate it and open it...
[22:12] <lingard> *how
[22:12] <lovedeatm> tye it in?
[22:12] <lovedeatm> type8
[22:12] <lingard> yeah, it comes up command not found
[22:13] <lovedeatm> o0o...eh srry then cant help you cuz ive never used it before..what kinda program is it?
[22:13] <lingard> its supposed to be a thing to set up an ir remote
[22:13] <lingard> i think
[22:13] <BluesKaj> yup
[22:14] <lingard> "can listen to the /dev/input/eventx device, and turn them into keypresses."
[22:14] <lingard> though IRKick states i don't have one
[22:15] <lingard> but i can control the volume
[22:15] <lovedeatm> yeah i read on ...its for TV awesome? you may need to reinstall or find a diffrent distro of it
[22:15] <lovedeatm> the only solution i have cuz i dont use it
[22:15] <BluesKaj> lingard, are you using LinuxMCE ?
[22:16] <lingard> i have no idea what that is
[22:16] <lingard> bit of a newbie
[22:17] <ardchoille> lingard: Media Center Edition
[22:17] <lingard> nope
[22:17] <lingard> kubuntu?
[22:18] <lingard> when i want to install something i download, do i have to save it anywhere special to install it?
[22:20] <BluesKaj> lingard, the default download target is /home/yourusername (usually)
[22:21] <BluesKaj> system menu HOME
[22:21] <lingard> so, generally, is there a command line to type to install the app when its decompressed?
[22:21] <sub[t]rnl> I like to install third party software in /opt/ as well
[22:22] <lovedeatm> <----noob. Can one computer assume the ip address of another. If not why and if so how?
[22:23] <BluesKaj> BBL... got stuff to do
[22:23] <lingard> lovedeatm: what do you mean?
[22:24] <sub[t]rnl> lovedeatm: yes it can be done, easily.  Computers can spoof other ip's, and can even spoof other mac addresses
[22:24] <lingard> on the same network?
[22:24] <sub[t]rnl> yes, or outside
[22:24] <sub[t]rnl> on the same network is non-blind spoofing
[22:24] <lingard> ohh
[22:24] <lingard> i thought a router wouldn't allow it?
[22:24] <lingard> or am i wrong
[22:24] <sub[t]rnl> wrong
[22:25] <lingard> fair enough :)
[22:26] <lovedeatm> brb
[22:27] <lingard> can you set up series recording on kaffeine?
[22:27] <lingard> is kaffeine even the best app to watch tv?
[22:28] <stdin> !tv
[22:28] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[22:34] <sersocker> wenas que tal?
[22:35] <sersocker> alguien me puede hechar una mano?
[22:37] <jussi01> sersocker: what language is that?
[22:38] <guaqua> where would i be able to change kdm startup options?
[22:38] <guaqua> i.e. the startup items
[22:38] <stdin> !es | sersocker
[22:38] <ubotu> sersocker: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:39] <stdin> guaqua: do you mean the sessions you can run?
[22:39] <guaqua> yes
[22:40] <guaqua> since the kde4 rc packages seem to be borked, i need to do some homegrown magic
[22:40] <ubuntu_> whoaim
[22:40] <stdin> guaqua: what's borked about them?
[22:41] <guaqua> doesn't start, claims can't find ~/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig
[22:41] <guaqua> i can just plain leave it be if kdm configuration is such a hassle
[22:41] <stdin> guaqua: so copy it from ~/.kde/share/config/startupconfig
[22:42] <guaqua> anyone else have an idea of how to modify the sessions, then?
[22:42] <guaqua> stdin: i'll give it a try
[22:43] <stdin> guaqua: it's nothing to do with the kdm entry, the startup script just want's that file
[22:43] <ubuntu> excuse me.. ¿a spanish kubuntu chanel?
[22:43] <stdin> !es
[22:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:43] <guaqua> the question still stands for how to modify the entry, regardless of if i'll get it working or not
[22:43] <stdin> guaqua: you edit /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop
[22:44] <guaqua> thank you
[22:44] <thomas_newbie__> can someone help me with unix regular expression question
[22:44] <ubuntu> thank you : ) .. installing Kubuntu ;)
[22:44] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: you can ask, but regexp can be insane
[22:44] <thomas_newbie__> lol http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48009/
[22:44] <guaqua> thomas_newbie__: http://www.regular-expressions.info/ is a friend
[22:45] <thomas_newbie__> guaqua: i'm reading about them but thx
[22:45] <guaqua> regular expressions are a thing you have to re-learn every time you use them unless you are a perl hacker
[22:46] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: so what's the question exactly?
[22:47] <thomas_newbie__> show the output of that command from a file
[22:47] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: why can't you do that?
[22:47] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: no but it's a question
[22:48] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: do you understand what thats saying because i'm not sure
[22:48] <stdin> yes, but why can't you run that command and see yourself?
[22:48] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: what would it output
[22:48] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: i suppost i'll try first
[22:49] <trappist> guaqua: there are lots and lots of opportunities to use regular expressions.  I use them every day even when I'm not coding.  once you learn how useful they are, they get a little harder to forget.
[22:49] <guaqua> trappist: i guess due to the un-intuitiveness of them, i tend to avoid them
[22:50] <guaqua> probably applies to many others
[22:51] <moparisthebest> I right click on my desktop, click 'configure desktop', a window pops up with a title of 'Configure - KDesktop' and inside of it says 'empty page', how can I fix this?
[22:51] <guaqua> stdin: ended up copying the whole .kde to .kde4 and it seems to work, thanks
[22:51] <moparisthebest> It seems I'm missing a module of some sort, but I haven't been able to find it
[22:51] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: for me it says invalid regular expressions
[22:51] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: probably because those "quotes" aren't quotes, replace them with "
[22:52] <guaqua> thomas_newbie__: your development cycle would be a whole lot shorter if you just tried other ways of doing the regular expression
[22:52] <guaqua> i.e. learning by reading, not only asking
[22:52] <thomas_newbie__> guaqua: omg dont come to conclusions so fast please...i've been reading
[22:52] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: what do u mean those aren't quotes
[22:53] <guaqua> " is not '
[22:53] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: those characters surrounding the expression aren't quotes
[22:53] <stdin> not in UTF anyway
[22:54] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: i wonder why i copy/pasted....anyway i retyped it and it worked
[22:55] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in 5 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[22:55] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: some word processors try to make quotes look "pretty" by making them another character (not true quotes). but the shell wants *real* quotes
[22:55] <moparisthebest> I really need to get more than 1 desktop working, does anyone know the name of the module that handles that?
[22:56] <guaqua> moparisthebest: what module are you talking about?
[22:56] <moparisthebest> or virtual desktop that is, whatever they are called
[22:56] <moparisthebest> I right click on my desktop, click 'configure desktop', a window pops up with a title of 'Configure - KDesktop' and inside of it says 'empty page'
[22:56] <moparisthebest> the one that would fix that
[22:56] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: hmmm interesting...well the out put was: honda accord  81 30      AND ford  thundbd 84 10
[22:56] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: but i'm confused :D
[22:56] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: same as I got ;)
[22:57] <guaqua> moparisthebest: i wonder if it's even done
[22:57] <moparisthebest> guaqua, it is, I'm still using KDE3
[22:57] <deuryte> what is kde4  ??
[22:57] <guaqua> moparisthebest: oh
[22:57] <moparisthebest> but one day I got on and it's gone :/
[22:58] <deuryte> what is kde4  ??
[22:58] <ardchoille> !kde4
[22:58] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[22:59] <deuryte> ty !!
[22:59] <moparisthebest> do you know what KDE is? currently we have KDE3, KDE4 is the new version that is not yet released
[23:00] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: i think u can guess what it is based on the numbers there but whats the asterisk doing there before the 6-8 and the rest....can't that match ANYTHING? doesn't [^ ]* mean match any single character 0 or more times
[23:00] <deuryte> kde4 release jan11 2008
[23:01] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: * means "repeated any number of times including 0 times"
[23:01]  * BluesKaj won't hold his breath for KDE4
[23:03] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: yes but there is an asterisk before the numbers
[23:04] <stdin> thomas_newbie__: space is a character too
[23:07] <venik> How do I update TexLive packages?
[23:07] <venik> I use Miktex under windows, and Miktex has a nice package manager, which TexLive seems to lack
[23:08] <thomas_newbie__> stdin: oohhh ok that helped me understand a lot better now thx
[23:08] <Csigaa> re
[23:10] <deuryte> im using foghat 2.26
[23:15]  * Tm_T slaps metaway
[23:15] <moparisthebest> does anyone know the name of the KDE module that allows configuring multiple virtual desktops?
[23:15]  * metaway says stfu to Tm_T
[23:16] <metaway> if you hate helpers here, i can delete #kubuntu from my ajoin list...
[23:16] <metaway> -1...
[23:16] <metaway> not problem, i know.
[23:16] <Tm_T> rmh
[23:16] <Tm_T> don't use acronyms like that, please
[23:17] <lavacano201014> heh, Gutsy seems to be a bit too complicated for my oldest box
[23:17] <lavacano201014> but just in case i can fix it...
[23:17] <moparisthebest> or is there another way to change my desktop background and/or add more desktops in KDE?
[23:17] <lavacano201014> it says the virtual width is too wide for the hardware when i try to start X
[23:17] <deuryte> I got kickbuntu buttsy..
[23:18] <hydrogen> tm_t got tm_towned
[23:19] <lavacano201014> moparisthebest: the background and the multiple desktop settings should be under the Desktop category
[23:19] <moparisthebest> yes, it is on my other machine, but this machine gives me an 'empty page' lavacano201014
[23:19] <moparisthebest> it literally says 'empty page'
[23:19] <lavacano201014> moparisthebest: try "kcontrol"
[23:20] <moparisthebest> running that command?
[23:20] <lavacano201014> yes
[23:20] <moparisthebest> then I get:
[23:20] <moparisthebest> The program 'kcontrol' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[23:20] <moparisthebest> sudo apt-get install kcontrol
[23:20] <moparisthebest> bash: kcontrol: command not found
[23:21] <lavacano201014> moparisthebest: then install it
[23:21] <moparisthebest> and when I type that, I get:
[23:21] <moparisthebest> kcontrol is already the newest version.
[23:21] <LjL> moparisthebest: echo $PATH
[23:21] <moparisthebest> /home/mopar/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[23:22] <LjL> moparisthebest: ls -l /usr/bin/kcontrol
[23:22] <moparisthebest> ls: /usr/bin/kcontrol: No such file or directory
[23:22] <lavacano201014> LjL: if that doesnt work i have an idea
[23:22] <LjL> moparisthebest: did you remove files from /usr manually?
[23:22] <moparisthebest> no
[23:22] <LjL> moparisthebest: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kcontrol
[23:22] <lavacano201014> moparisthebest: "whereis kcontrol"
[23:23]  * lavacano201014 downgrades his older box to feisty because gutsy is too advanced
[23:24] <oakxx> so, is ubuntu stil considered a debian flavour
[23:24] <oakxx> ?
[23:24] <lavacano201014> oakxx: maybe...
[23:24] <Kingzar> woohoo this is so fun :) finally got my ubuntu working after 5 days
[23:24] <oakxx> well, it handles .deb's
[23:24] <moparisthebest> haha, that was the problem the whole time, my kcontrol executable was missing :)
[23:24] <Kingzar> now on too the next problem
[23:24] <Kingzar> ;)
[23:24] <moparisthebest> thanks LjL and lavacano201014
[23:25] <Kingzar> my msn isn't working anybody?
[23:25] <moparisthebest> I wonder how that happened :/
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: run all updates.
[23:25] <lavacano201014> moparisthebest: heh
[23:25] <LjL> moparisthebest, i wonder too. a file from a package disappearing like that is a quite worrying sign.
[23:25] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: MSN client?
[23:25] <Kingzar> kopete
[23:25] <LjL> moparisthebest: i suggest that you run "sudo debsums -s" (after installing debsums)
[23:25] <Kingzar> i'm updating now currently
[23:25] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: got it
[23:26] <Kingzar> if kopete still doesn't work is there another client i can use?
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: Pidgin
[23:26] <Kingzar> thank you..
[23:26] <Kingzar> also for my knowledge.. konquerer is firefox. correct or not?
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: incorrect.
[23:27] <moparisthebest> LjL, should I have md5sums for all my packages?
[23:27] <Kingzar> :O
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: you can get firefox if you want.
[23:27] <LjL> moparisthebest, it's pretty normal that some packages don't have one (unfortunately)... but for most of them, yes. pastebin the output please
[23:27] <Kingzar> but is it better?
[23:27] <moparisthebest> konqueror and firefox are very different, but just install firefox :)
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: some say it is... some say not...
[23:27] <moparisthebest> both are good browsers, it's just personal preference which one you like better Kingzar
[23:27] <Kingzar> can i install internet explorer?
[23:27] <Kingzar> :P
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: decide for yourself,you can always get firefox
[23:27] <Kingzar> hehehe
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: actually, yes you can
[23:28] <moparisthebest> ok LjL it's still running
[23:28] <Kingzar> na was a joke
[23:28] <Kingzar> not gonna run that
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> lol
[23:28] <Kingzar> anything i should do after a fresh install WITH internet working?
[23:28] <Kingzar> besides updating
[23:28] <moparisthebest> I had to do that for my cousin, I installed microsoft word and IE6 on her kubuntu :)
[23:29] <LjL> Kingzar: BREAK IT! how can you resist more than 10 minutes with a working system?
[23:29] <Kingzar> haha you cannot destroy my happiness
[23:29] <Kingzar> i'm in the sky right now
[23:29] <Kingzar> untouchable
[23:29] <Kingzar> fixing this after 5 days phew.. linux noob and all
[23:29] <LjL> Kingzar: nah, just get the updates, and start looking for software
[23:30] <Kingzar> compiz fusion is included in kubuntu 7.10?
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[23:30] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:30] <moparisthebest> you can install it yes
[23:30] <bkudria> i have a strange problem.  non of my kde apps will connect to the internet, although firefox, and ssh work fine.  i think it's something to do with knetworkmanager, but killing it doesn't help.  neither does restartingkde, or the computer.  how can i fix this?
[23:30] <bkudria> none*
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> bkudria: do you use wireless?
[23:30] <moparisthebest> bkudria, knetworkmanager broke for me a few days ago, but nothing could connect
[23:31] <Kingzar> ok thank you.. i expect major problems their already.. i got a mobility radeon 9000, and i've been reading some problems
[23:31] <Kingzar> hope it does take me another 5 days ghehe
[23:31] <LjL> bkudria: you're probably right it's related to knetworkmanager... did you set up your networking manually?
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: uhh oh.
[23:31] <moparisthebest> if only KDE apps aren't connecting, it is probably your KDE proxy settings bkudria
[23:31] <Kingzar> nosrednaekim: uhh oh.. --> as in confirming what i assume or something else?
[23:31] <bkudria> nosrednaekim: no, ethernet
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: confirming what you assume.
[23:31] <LjL> moparisthebest: no, it can be knetworkmanager
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> bkudria: then kill knetworkmanager.
[23:32] <bkudria> moparisthebest: nope, even with out a proxy setting
[23:32] <bkudria> nosrednaekim: doesn't help
[23:32] <Kingzar> but there are people with functional compiz and radeon 9000 right right right?!?!
[23:32] <moparisthebest> stopping only KDE apps from connecting? strange
[23:32] <Kingzar> PLZZ
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> bkudria: stop the kded service
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: yess...
[23:32] <Kingzar> for that was my ultimate goal for switching to ubuntu
[23:32] <Kingzar> phewwww
[23:32] <lavacano201014> bkudria: ths is obvious, but did you tell KNetworkManager to enable networking?
[23:32] <moparisthebest> Kingzar, I could never get it working with my radeon mobility 9600 before it died, but go for it :)
[23:32] <bkudria> lavacano201014: i did
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> actually,if the open source drivers are good enough on it by now, it could be really easy
[23:33] <Kingzar> hahahaa and your not a noob i assume
[23:33] <bkudria> nosrednaekim: stop it?  should i start it after that?
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> bkudria: no.. just stop it and keep it from being started again
[23:33] <Kingzar> ubuntu is not nice to newbies :S
[23:33] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: you lie.
[23:33] <Kingzar> the people are
[23:33] <Kingzar> ubuntu no
[23:33] <oakxx> ubunut is super nice to newbs
[23:33] <oakxx> you all are trippin
[23:34] <Kingzar> if you got the hardware that is
[23:34] <oakxx> name a simpler linux  distro???
[23:34] <Kingzar> windows!
[23:34] <tarin> meis
[23:34] <no0tic> who has the problem with knetworkmanager?
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: there is a learning curve....and bad hardware doesn't help
[23:34] <tarin> mepis
[23:34] <oakxx> you said windows!!!!
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> no0tic:  bkudria
[23:34] <oakxx> andyou cal others newbs
[23:34] <oakxx> please
[23:34] <Kingzar> yes what the problem
[23:34] <lavacano201014> Ubuntu's slogan is "Linux for human beings"
[23:34] <stdin> !ot
[23:34] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:34] <Kingzar> no i am a noob
[23:34] <moparisthebest> Kingzar, if you think *ubuntu is not nice to newbies, try installing gentoo manually from the command line
[23:34] <Kingzar> i consider myself the instep mondel
[23:34] <Kingzar> model
[23:34] <no0tic> bkudria, knetworkmanager + ppp + gprs?
[23:34] <oakxx> yes u are
[23:34] <tarin> or fedora
[23:34] <bkudria> no0tic: nope
[23:34] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: 1) Windows is not Linux, nor is it anywhere near Linux
[23:34] <oakxx> you are a nigger boob= n00b
[23:34] <bkudria> nosrednaekim: didn't help
[23:35] <oakxx> windows sucks my penix's
[23:35] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: 2) Linux does not crash without a good reason, unlike Windows.
[23:35] <tarin> hey does anyone have an issue with adept crashing
[23:35] <Kingzar> well well guys comon, too much fanboyism here now...
[23:35] <tarin> keeps telling me it is being used by another process
[23:35]  * stdin high-fives LjL on the teamwork
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: hehe... yeah
[23:35] <no0tic> bkudria, so what?
[23:35] <moparisthebest> tarin, adept crashes sometimes
[23:35] <LjL> no0tic: it's not gprs, but firefox and ssh connect, while kde apps don't
[23:35] <tarin> and then forces me to close
[23:35] <lavacano201014> tarin: i never really liked adept
[23:36] <Kingzar> i gotta say in winxp's defence, i never had 1 BSOD in all the time i used it
[23:36] <tarin> i know sometimes but this has been every time i open for a week
[23:36] <sigma> use kpackage in place of adept
[23:36] <Kingzar> and neither a virus or trojan
[23:36] <tarin> ok
[23:36] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: you are a miracle.
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> tarin:  or synaptic
[23:36] <Kingzar> i just treat my pc with Loveveeee
[23:36] <tarin> do i need to apt-get those?
[23:36] <sigma> Kingzar: ive never had either in kubuntu
[23:36] <bkudria> no0tic: wait, what?  i'm sorry?
[23:37] <no0tic> bkudria, knetworkmanager doesn't check for connection on ppp interfaces, so you have to uninstall it and all kde applications will connect. Many kde apps rely on knetworkmanager to determine if they have access to the internet
[23:37] <lavacano201014> tarin: you can if you want
[23:37] <bkudria> no0tic: i'm not using ppp
[23:37] <moparisthebest> LjL, http://rafb.net/p/wuNEd813.html debsums finally finished
[23:37] <moparisthebest> nothing looks too bad in there
[23:37] <steveire> How do I run qtdemo on kubuntu?
[23:37] <Kingzar> ok back to learning again.
[23:37] <lavacano201014> steveire: run the command "qtdemo" i guess
[23:37] <Kingzar> so can i get almost all the programs from the adept manager ?
[23:37] <tarin> Evil_DuDe: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[23:38] <Kingzar> like firefox etc.
[23:38] <no0tic> bkudria, sorry, btw, try to stop knetworkmanager. It could be the reason
[23:38] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: almost
[23:38] <diesel_> Hi I am testing out my ability to view a moive, but am coming up with the error that xine could not find the demux for dvd:///dev/scd0 could someone point me to a solution.
[23:38] <Kingzar> ok\
[23:38] <moparisthebest> you can get most of the mainstream ones Kingzar
[23:38] <steveire> lavacano201014: It's not there. I also don't find it with apt-cache
[23:38] <moparisthebest> then there is sourceforge, and then plain google
[23:38] <Kingzar> is it a wise thing to be installing new apps, while adept updater is updating?!
[23:38] <bkudria> no0tic: i did, it didn't help
[23:38] <no0tic> bkudria, if after that all kde apps go online, you'll have to uninstall knetworkmanager
[23:38] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: a small chunk of stuff you must use apt-get from a shell, but you probably dont need to use those apps yet.
[23:38] <LjL> moparisthebest: uhm, quite too many packages don't have a checksum... but no, i guess nothing exceptionally bad
[23:38] <no0tic> bkudria, ok, so I can't help you anymore, sorry
[23:39] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: no not really
[23:39] <Kingzar> hmm it's not even allowing me to open another adept screen
[23:39] <moparisthebest> no, you can only have 1
[23:39] <bkudria> no0tic: thanks anyway...
[23:39] <Kingzar> -1 point for linux.. no multi tasking
[23:39] <lavacano201014> steveire: you didnt include the quotes, did you?
[23:39] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=306
[23:39] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: thats for technical reasons..
[23:39] <moparisthebest> Kingzar, it modifies your database, and you don't want 2 processes modifying it at the same time ;)
[23:39] <bkudria> moparisthebest: so, even after stopping kded, it doesn't work.  any other idea what might be wrong?
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: ever tried installing two things in windows at the same time?
[23:40] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: yes you can multitask, just not while adept updater is updating
[23:40] <moparisthebest> bkudria, try removing knetworkmanager all together and restarting
[23:40] <moparisthebest> oh, its called soemthing else now
[23:40] <steveire> lavacano201014: no
[23:40] <moparisthebest> networkd-manager-kde  i think
[23:40] <moparisthebest> without the first 'd'
[23:40] <Kingzar> niceeeeeeee wooohooo
[23:40] <LjL> Kingzar, i urge you to look up "multitasking" on wikipedia or something
[23:40] <no0tic> Kingzar, you can't lauch different dpkg processes at once
[23:40] <lavacano201014> steveire: then i cant help you, as i have no reason to use qtdemo
[23:41] <bkudria> moparisthebest: ok, i'll try
[23:41] <Kingzar> what's the command to quickly send a window to another desktop?!
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: depends on how you have it set up.
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: systemsettings->keyboard and mouse->keyboard shortcuts
[23:42] <Kingzar> thnx
[23:42]  * nosrednaekim has it set to ctrl+alt+shift+right arrow
[23:42] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: you can also just right click the title bar
[23:42] <Kingzar> i want faster
[23:43] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: no such way
[23:43] <moparisthebest> Kingzar, in linux, you can change anything to work like you like it
[23:43] <lavacano201014> moparisthebest: that is true
[23:43] <moparisthebest> and if you can't change it with a nice user interface, or by editing a text file
[23:43] <no0tic> Kingzar, you'd like a mind reader?
[23:43] <moparisthebest> then you can get the source, make it like you want, and recompile it :)
[23:43] <LjL> no0tic: what about webcam face tracking?
[23:43] <Kingzar> hehe thanks,.. i'll get their after 1 year of using linux mayb
[23:43] <LjL> nod to move the window to another desktop
[23:44] <no0tic> LjL, would be perfect to give focus to windows.
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> no0tic: hey.... watch it...  be nice
[23:44] <moparisthebest> it moves quite fast actually Kingzar, after using it for a solid week I could no longer go back to windows
[23:44] <LjL> no0tic: well then write something or port something from windows, because there's nothing decent for linux :P
[23:44] <BluesKaj> LjL, preferably with an ugly-image filter :)
[23:44] <jembouge> hi there
[23:44] <LjL> that might help
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> hey jembouge
[23:45] <Kingzar> can anyone give me a hint if i'd be able to run all those nice gadgets, and looks like those video's on youtube. ON my pc? it's a P4 2.6/512mb laptop with Radeon 9000 64mb
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: thats sounds decent, you should at least be able to do some of them
[23:46] <jembouge> nosrednaekim: you've probably all seen this: while updating, it asks you whether to keep or replace a file (in my case: qt_plugins_3.3rc)
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> jembouge: replace
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> jembouge: if you've never modified the file, replace it
[23:47] <jembouge> should I keep or replace that one, and how to understand what the "compare files" function shows to us?
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> jembouge: thats a diff..
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> jembouge: replace it
[23:48] <moparisthebest> Kingzar, there is only one way to know for sure, give it a try :)
[23:48] <jembouge> nosrednaekim: should I show you what it says in the "compare files" window?
[23:48] <jembouge> !pastebin
[23:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:48] <Kingzar> hmm
[23:48] <nosrednaekim> jembouge: no.... its ok... its just a rc file, you're not going to kill anything
[23:48] <jembouge> lol ok,
[23:48] <jembouge> what does the 'rc' mean btw?
[23:48] <ardchoille> Release Candidate
[23:48] <nosrednaekim> jembouge: its a confic file.
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> *config
[23:49] <ardchoille> Oh, sorry
[23:49] <jembouge> so should I at least save the old one?
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: stop abusing your membership ;)
[23:49] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: lol
[23:50] <jembouge> well thanks, replacing
[23:51] <Kingzar> shortcuts doesnt really work yet hehe
[23:51] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: the shortcut doesnt work?
[23:51] <jembouge> btw, after all this mess with kdm, kdmtheme and the admin button showing up but not working, I decided (and did) format everything and reinstall the whole thing :p
[23:51] <jembouge> all is working fine now
[23:51] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: do you mind not flaming Linux?
[23:51] <nosrednaekim> jembouge: don't mees with kdm and themes...
[23:51] <jembouge> so thanks you all who helped me
[23:51] <jembouge> my laptop has no pb I can't solve anymore :)
[23:52] <Kingzar> i added some shortcuts about moving windows to other desktop, and moving to other desktop
[23:52] <Csigaa> bye
[23:52] <Kingzar> with like shift + right arrow
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: you may need to restart kde,but I don't think so..
[23:52]  * genii hands jembouge a congratulatory coffee
[23:53] <lavacano201014> Kingzar: <CTRL> + <ALT> + <BACKSPACE> ;-)
[23:53] <jembouge> nosrednaekim: I'm no linux code writer, but I think that kdm stuff should be re-thought and reworked, it's really buggy sometimes
[23:53] <jembouge> genii: thanks :)
[23:53] <lavacano201014> heh, missed him
[23:54]  * jembouge sipping coffe
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> lavacano201014: thats not funny.
[23:54] <Kingzar> is kdewallet an important program?
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: not really
[23:55] <genii> jembouge: Anytime :)
[23:55] <Kingzar> it seems to be messin with the msn of kopete
[23:55] <BluesKaj> is there a utility besides cpufreq-utils that simply monitors the cpu speed ? ...don't want the scaling options cuz they don't work properly on gutsy 64bit
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: just to read the frequency?
[23:56] <BluesKaj> yes
[23:56] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep frequency"
[23:56] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[23:57] <nosrednaekim> erm...."grep MHz"
[23:57] <Kingzar> jup its definitly kde wallet messing with kopete msn
[23:58] <kpr> You know what's good. PuTtY
[23:58] <kpr> Forwards all SSH connections from my VMware kubuntu to Doze
[23:58] <kpr> And I recommend it for those who hate dual booting
[23:58] <kpr> =]
[23:59] <nosrednaekim> :D
[23:59] <kpr> =D
[23:59] <BluesKaj> ok nosrednaekim the MHz did it :)


[01:38] <zztopless> afternoon all... Would anyone know how to 'find and replace' in a text editor (I prefer gedit) to add a character (":") in between every character?
[01:40] <zztopless> I'm creating custom global shortcuts in KDE and you need to add a : between each character for the send input option.  Would be a big time saver
 You can not find a empty charater, İ guess
 But you could use a script or regex
[11:28] <daft> wasnt a new release comming today? I have a new laptop and it would be a blast to have wifi and bluetooth
[11:28] <tomreyn> it still is
[11:29] <daft> is there a count down counter somewhere?
[11:29] <tomreyn> !isitoutyet
[11:34] <tomreyn> here's your countdown https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/party?iso=20211014T235959&p0=136&msg=Latest%20possible%20scheduled%20release%20date%20for%20Ubuntu%2021.10
[11:35] <TJ-> I do appreciate how  people volunteer to find all the bugs for me, before I decide whether to install or not :)
[11:36] <daft> oh i cant make the release party. im sleeping then.
[11:39] <daft> btw i have an upstream kernel installed to get wifi working. Can i upgrade with that kernel installed or should i remove it and use a cable for the upgrade
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 Hi BluesKaj
[14:31] <BluesKaj> @Halis, Hi
[17:34] <Guest84> hello all
[18:05] <tomreyn> daft: it's released, in case you're not asleep, yet
[18:22] <Guest55> can anyone help with login password recovery or reset
[18:23] <Guest55> for the life of me I cannot remember my password to an older computer running Kubuntu and I need to recover some files on it.
[18:32] <genii> In the GRUB menu add an uppercase S to the end of the boot line
[18:33] <genii> This wiil make it boot in single-user (root) where you can then use the passwd command to change the user password for your normal account
[18:34] <Guest55> when I load the GRUB, it simply follows a procedure without allowing any input on my part
[18:38] <genii> There is usually a key to make it stop on the menu without autobooting, sometimes ESC. But I usually just use the up/down keyboard arrows. The idea is select the top entry, hit the e key to edit. Add the S to the end. I think it's the F10 key to boot it after this
[18:39] <genii> It's been a while since I needed to make temp changes to the boot parameters like this, but it's the basic procedure you need
[18:40] <Guest55> ok, Ill give that a try
[18:47] <Guest55> thanks for the help guys, i finally got it


[06:27] <LocutusOfBorg> schopin, hello, easy-rsa is sad again, upstream declared compatibility with openssl 3
[06:27] <LocutusOfBorg> but they didn't remove the keyout flag and testsuite is sad
[06:28] <LocutusOfBorg> well easy-rsa testsuite is good against itself
[06:30] <LocutusOfBorg> Found: /tmp/autopkgtest.Zrl1K0/build.V0T/src/easy-rsa/pki/vars
[06:30] <LocutusOfBorg> Found: /tmp/autopkgtest.Zrl1K0/build.V0T/src/easy-rsa/vars
[06:30] <LocutusOfBorg> well, this is the new issue then
[06:34] <utkarsh2102> ogayot: hey, I was hoping that when Debian pulls in a new upstream version, the fix will come with it.
[07:15] <ogayot> utkarsh2102: ack, thanks! I will go ahead and forward the patch just in case they do another upload before bringing a new upstream version, We might be able to go back to syncing.
[07:17] <utkarsh2102> ogayot: awesome, thank you!
[07:18] <utkarsh2102> ogayot: let me know if you don't hear from Christian, I'll ping them privately.
[07:19] <ogayot> appreciated, thanks!
[14:23] <seb128> rbasak, thanks for the ubuntu logo update on launchpad!


[00:03] <Oblivion1500> anyone?
[00:12] <_KaszpiR_> change ownershit of the directory to that group
[08:33] <rbasak> jamespage: morning! How important is bug 1132302 for us? drbd8 is in main. rls-r-incoming?
[08:34] <rbasak> Debian is on 2:8.3.13-2. We could jump ahead if it's important I suppose?
[09:11] <jamespage> rbasak, good morning!
[09:11] <jamespage> rbasak, yes - I'll do the required now
[09:25] <jamespage> rbasak, fancy doing the work on that? I'll sponsor it for you
[09:33] <rbasak> jamespage: sure
[09:37] <jamespage> rbasak, ta
[10:08] <rbasak> jamespage: the upstream website doesn't refer to drbd 8.4, only 8.3. Although 8.4 sources are available. From the changelog, it looks like some kernel build fixes (for 3.7) were done in 8.3.15, and also in 8.4.3, and no mention of 3.8 in the 8.4 series changelog. Debian is on 8.3.13-2. So I think there's a good chance that updating to 8.3.15 will suffice, and then our delta against Debian will be smaller. If it works I can send that to Debian too.
[10:08] <rbasak>  So I want to aim for 8.3.15 only, not 8.4.3. How does this sound to you?
[10:09] <jamespage> rbasak, my experience is that 3.7/3.8 are pretty closely aligned so thats probably OK
[10:09] <rbasak> OK I'll see how it goes
[10:09] <jamespage> rbasak, I'd probably stuff it somewhere and ask the bug reporter to try testing with your proposed package
[10:09] <rbasak> Good idea, thanks
[11:13] <alex88> hello guys, I've a server that increases load every hour due processes remaining in D state.. someone else had the issue?
[11:19] <[HUN]Bitvilag> hi everyone
[11:20] <[HUN]Bitvilag> i have a question about ideal motherboard?! for ubuntu server
[11:21] <[HUN]Bitvilag> is anyone here?
[11:23] <Bitvilag> hi anyone here?
[11:27] <Bitvilag> i have a question about intel q67 did anyone use that motherboard?
[11:48] <vezq> Bitvilag: what is you question
[11:49] <vezq> your*
[11:57] <Bitvilag> heey
[11:57] <Bitvilag> got answer on a dif channel
[11:57] <Bitvilag> but thanks though
[11:58] <Bitvilag> wasnt sure about intel q67 chipset
[12:01] <alechk02> hey guys, is it safe to swapon -a && swapoff -a on a running production server? or is it better to make a scheduled reboot?
[12:02] <histo> alechk02: is swap being used?
[12:03] <alechk02> yup, ~170MB
[12:03] <histo> alechk02: is ram being used in full?
[12:03] <alechk02> nope, 40%: 800 out of 2000
[12:04] <histo> alechk02: I believe it's safe perhaps someone else can answer. I'm not sure if information stored in swap is moved to RAM on swapoff. I would assume this would be the default behavior.
[12:10] <alechk02> mmm, can't find decent answer anywhere...
[12:10] <alechk02> guess it'll be safer to wait until scheduled reboot
[12:13] <histo> alechk02: Is there a reason you want to take swap down and then back up?
[12:38] <Haris> Hello
[12:39] <Haris> Hello all
[12:44] <Haris> how can I setup 12.04 LTS on pxe + cobbler such that the network booted installer doesn't ask me for CD-ROM during install. It gets all the files from network mirror/archive ?
[12:45] <Haris> I have it setup on pxe, but the installer complains about non-existence of cd-rom during install
[13:06] <zul> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-precise-g3/+merge/150317
[13:19] <vezq> Haris: no experince with cobbler, using this successfully: http://fai-project.org/
[13:30] <wwww> anyone know if this site is running on a linux server? riskcouture.com
[13:31] <thekeeper> I would hope so.
[13:32] <wwww> or what CMS is running on? www.riskcouture.com
[13:33] <Pici> not really an Ubuntu question...
[13:36] <thekeeper> looks custom to me.
[13:38] <wwww> thats what i thought
[13:38] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/quantum/quantum-precise-g3/+merge/150325
[13:38] <wwww> custom php job
[13:38] <thekeeper> yup
[13:38] <thekeeper> and british company and hosting
[14:01] <zul> Daviey: hey can you look at python-wsme please?
[14:10] <Haris> vezq: found part of the answer. No worries. Thank you!
[14:17] <sonOfRa> When installing PHP on a 12.10 machine, is it PCRE compiled with unicode by default?
[14:17] <sonOfRa> I'm getting this error:
[14:17] <sonOfRa> Compilation failed: unknown property name after \P or \p
[14:17] <sonOfRa> on preg_replace(). I assume it is due to lacking unicode support. Is there a way to check, or to install it properly with unicode support?
[14:19] <Haris> Hello all
[14:19] <Haris> where's the pxe/netboot kernel, initrd images for 12.04lts on the ISO ?
[14:21] <Haris> or where can I find them
[14:21] <Haris> are they in the mini iso ?
[14:21] <Haris> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[14:22] <Haris> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[14:22] <Haris> is this 12.04lts 64 bit images that I need ?
[14:23] <Jeeves_> wget -q -O ${BASEDIR}/netboot.tar.gz http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[14:23] <Jeeves_> tar zxf netboot.tar.gz
[14:23] <Jeeves_> That's what I do
[14:23] <Jeeves_> To fix pxe
[14:58] <zul> jamespage:  http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/ca/ (precise-g3)
[15:03] <psivaa> hallyn: Would like to know how the fix for bug 1130029 goes :)
[15:04] <hallyn> psivaa: i've sent another merge proposal last week.  should be fixed
[15:05] <CallingPanther> ok new install of ubuntu 8.04 server and running irssi....What to do next...Hmmm?
[15:08] <hallyn> psivaa: oh, the other failure, that's lxc-execute on precise failing.  i'd just comment that out, but as it'sa different bug i didn't want to pollute the openone
[15:08] <hallyn> i'd like the first fix to be accepted separately, then i can propose a fix for the other - bc if the other ends up being easier to fix in lucid, then i want to uncomment the test case
[15:09] <hallyn> in anyc ase this is low prio for me, so if it needs to be bumped up then let me know
[15:11] <zul> hallyn:  you see that libvirt 1.0.3 is getting cut?
[15:12] <hallyn> psivaa: ideally i'd have about 2 hours to dedicate to properly fixing that so we don't have to comment out hte test case
[15:12] <hallyn> zul: no
[15:12] <zul> hallyn:  ill have a look at it this week
[15:15] <jamespage> zul, cinder and quantum both have typos in the changelog
[15:16] <zul> jamespage: ergh...ill fix it gimme a sec
[15:17] <zul> jamespage: *sigh* i shouldnt wirte changelogs before i had my morning beverage
[15:21] <jamespage> zul, no
[15:21] <zul> jamespage: fixed
[15:21] <jamespage> infact I think I might ask Mrs zul to chain your office shut until that has happened!
[15:21] <zul> jamespage: heh
[15:24] <hallyn> psivaa: i will look at it this afternoon
[15:27] <CallingPanther> Hello again
[15:27] <psivaa> hallyn: ok, thanks for that. I understand that its a test code issue but since it is a smoke test failure, the visibility is high on that
[15:28] <hallyn> psivaa: yes, but in the future please keep in mind what i said about differnet bugs for different failures
[15:29] <hallyn> psivaa: that will make it easier to undo things
[15:30] <hallyn> psivaa: (and especially merge proposals)
[15:31] <psivaa> hallyn: ack, will do, and wont test it until the MP gets approved and merged :)
[15:32] <hallyn> psivaa: my preference would be for the bug (which is about the lxc api test) to be called fixed, and the mp to be accepted :)  The other failure you see I'm hoping to fixin the lp:~serge-hallyn/+junk/lxc-test tree
[15:33] <hallyn> but whatever, off to finish qemu hopefully :)
[15:34] <psivaa> hallyn: ack, will follow that flow in the future :)
[15:41] <jamespage> zul, http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/ca-updates/ for review
[15:41] <jamespage> zul, just testing your packages now
[15:42] <zul> jamespage:  looks good to me
[15:44] <Daviey> zul: sure (sorry missed the msg))
[15:44] <zul> Daviey: no worries
[15:46] <jamespage> zul, cinder and glance: +1
[15:46] <zul> jamespage:  and the rest? :)
[15:46] <jamespage> zul, give my laptop a chance!
[15:47] <zul> jamespage: noooo! :)
[15:47] <jamespage> zul, horizon: +1
[15:56] <jamespage> zul, keystone +1
[15:59] <hallyn> zul: when i do http://people.canonical.com/~serge//kvm-p-to-r-script, apt-get install -f at the end gives me:
[15:59] <hallyn> E: Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[16:00] <hallyn> if i manually copy that file into /var/cache/apt/archives, it next complains about libblkid, and so on.
[16:00] <hallyn> zul: do youmind taking a quick look and seeing if i'm diong something wrong with ftp-archive  that would amke this happen?
[16:00] <jamespage> zul, did you fixup https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/cinder-ftbfs-again/+merge/150239
[16:00] <zul> hallyn: you might want to look at reprepro
[16:00] <jamespage> can't see it anywhere?
[16:00] <zul> jamespage:  not yet its on my todo list
[16:01] <jamespage> zul, ack
[16:02] <hallyn> looking
[16:07] <jamespage> zul, nova +1
[16:08] <zul> jamespage:  so we should be good yes/
[16:08] <jamespage> zul, almost
[16:08] <zul> jamespage:  ill wait then :)
[16:23] <jamespage> zul, quantum +1
[16:24] <zul> jamespage:  cool ill start uploading
[16:32] <davlaps> hi folks!
[16:34] <katronix> Hi all, yesterday someone was telling me that referring to eth0:X was not the 'current way' of adding multiple IPs to your box. Could you please remind me the proper way of doing it now?
[16:35] <davlaps> can anyone tell me which of the current dell rackservers are compatible with <IP_ADDRESS> LTS?
[16:35] <davlaps> (e.g. R620, R720, etc. 12th gen).
[16:35] <davlaps> i've looked at the ubuntu compat pages, but the models are out of date there..
[16:38] <zul> jamespage:  uploaded
[16:39] <jamespage> zul, ack
[16:39] <jamespage> zul, looking at http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/grizzly_versions.html
[16:39] <jamespage> there are a few other packages in CA that are a bit out of date
[16:39] <jamespage> any of them important and worth and upload?
[16:39] <zul> jamespage:  looking
[16:40] <tedski> davlaps: i have 12.04 running on R620s right now
[16:40] <zul> jamespage:  greenlet and cliff yes not sure about the others
[16:40] <jamespage> zul, if you prepare the uploads I can ack
[16:40] <davlaps> tedski: that is great! did you have to do anything special? i heard in september last year R720's were crashing..
[16:41] <jamespage> zul, what about swiftclient?
[16:41] <zul> jamespage:  sure
[16:41] <zul> jamespage:  ah yes swiftclient as well
[16:41] <hallyn> zul: i get the same behavior with reprepro
[16:41] <zul> hallyn: ill check this afternoon
[16:41] <hallyn> zul: thanks.
[16:42] <tedski> davlaps: we had some specific bios settings
[16:42] <hallyn> i can't tell ifi t's something due to doing dist-upgrade from precise to raring, or something in my packages
[16:42] <tedski> davlaps: i'm diggin up my notes...
[16:42] <tedski> standby and i'll share
[16:42] <davlaps> tedski: that's awesome, thanks!
[16:46] <tedski> davlaps: the first batch of r620s we got didn't come with the bios in performance mode... but i see that's now in the updated bios releases
[16:46] <tedski> davlaps: that's all we had to do... without that, we had some system freezes
[16:46] <davlaps> tedski: great. so just set "performance mode" in the bios..
[16:46] <davlaps> did you use raid at all on your hdd?
[16:46] <tedski> davlaps: yup.. bios -> system bios -> system settings
[16:46] <davlaps> cool.
[16:46] <tedski> davlaps: we have the H310s and we're running hw raid on some, some are just passthrough
[16:46] <davlaps> i need 2 TB of storage..
[16:47] <davlaps> ok. thanks!
[16:48] <tedski> the package srvadmin-storageservices will let you configure/monitor the raid
[16:49] <tedski> that works well with nagios' check_openmanage
[16:51] <tedski> davlaps: if you run into any troubles, feel free to ping me... i don't always watch this window, so privmsg might be best
[16:52] <zul> jamespage: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/ca/
[16:53] <jamespage> zul, looks like missing changelog history for python-cliff
[16:54] <zul> jamespage: hold on
[16:54] <jamespage> zul, ditto greenlet
[16:55] <jamespage> zul, swiftclient looks OK
[16:57] <zul> jamespage: try now
[16:57] <tedski> davlaps: i'm trying to figure out a way to manage the raid controller without having an os on the machine...
[16:58] <tedski> davlaps: of course everything dell has is windows-centric
[16:58] <katronix> can anyone help? , yesterday someone was telling me that referring to eth0:X was not the 'current way' of adding multiple IPs to your box. Could you please remind me the proper way of doing it now?
[16:58] <davlaps> tedski: ok. thanks again for your help. much appreciated!
[16:59] <tedski> katronix: to the best of my knowledge, that's the way to do it
[16:59] <jamespage> zul, OK - they look good now
[16:59] <zul> cool thanks
[17:00] <jamespage> zul, looks like its going to take a few hours to build - I'll sweep everything through tomorrow AM
[17:00] <zul> jamespage:  uploaded
[17:00] <zul> jamespage:  cool ill tweet it tomorrow then
[17:03] <saba> Is the Gamin daemon included in 12.04 by default?
[17:03] <katronix> tedski, sorry which way? the eth0:X?
[17:03] <tedski> katronix: yes
[17:13] <tangomike> I have a cluster of ubuntu 10.04 apache servers.  They share config files via a read only NFS mount.  I would like to upgrade apache, but apt complains. Unpacking replacement apache2.2-common ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/apache2.2-common_2.2.14-5ubuntu8.10_i386.deb (--unpack):  unable to securely remove '/etc/apache2/sites-available.dpkg-new': Read-only file system.  Is it possible to get around this error? can I tell apt to ign
[17:16] <sarnold> tangomike: you were cut off at "apt to ign"
[17:18] <tangomike> can I tell apt to ignore the configuration directory and only install the binaries?
[17:43] <zul> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/cinder-ftbfs-again/+merge/150384
[17:53] <Drag0nflamez> I turned on byobu via SSH and it looks all weird
[17:55] <Drag0nflamez> Like this http://i.imgur.com/Cx6Qftl.png
[17:56] <sarnold> Drag0nflamez: when things get that far wrong, it is often a mismatched TERM environment variable vs the terminal emulator you're actually using
[17:56] <Drag0nflamez> sarnold, hmm.
[17:56] <Drag0nflamez> echo $TERM gives me screen
[17:57] <Drag0nflamez> not sure what SSH uses anyway
[17:57] <sarnold> how about before you started screen?
[17:57] <sarnold> ssh is just a transport.
[17:57] <Drag0nflamez> true
[17:58] <Drag0nflamez> it´s a fresh install, actually
[17:58] <Drag0nflamez> so screen already loaded when it booted.
[17:59] <zul> yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-novaclient/novaclient-2.11.1/+merge/150391
[17:59] <yolanda> ok
[18:02] <yolanda> done
[18:03] <yolanda> zul, i think we should be packaging python-ceilometerclient, don't you think? i'm using that for my openerp integration
[18:03] <zul> yolanda:  should already be in the archive ill update it today
[18:03] <yolanda> oh great
[18:08] <pythonirc1011> I need to install ubuntu on 10 bare metal machines. RAID 10. Whats the easiest way to automate this?
[18:08] <pythonirc1011> mdadm raid
[18:08] <xnox> use a preseed file with partman-auto-raid stanzas
[18:09] <xnox> that will work, unless you require LUKS on top of raid10.
[18:09] <xnox> google for partman-auto-raid to find samples from the internet/guides/documentation/help/mailing-lists etc.
[18:13] <mikeey> I have installed dnsmasq and added the pointers I want in /etc/hosts, however I have to type for example "http://www." (notice the dot) to go to the internal webserver, I want to be able to just type "http://www" and go to it, is it possible?
[18:28] <tok0loshi> hey guys looking for some assistance with a Broadcom NetExtreme II issue
[18:40] <Drag0nflamez> ah, fixed.
[18:52] <zul> adam_g: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/ca/
[19:43] <zul> adam_g: ping
[20:22] <adam_g> zul: hey
[20:22] <zul> adam_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/cinder-ftbfs-again/+merge/150384
[20:25] <adam_g> zul: k. lookin at the CA packages now
[20:26] <zul> adam_g:  no need jamespage did it this morning they got uploaded this morning
[20:34] <roaksoax> smoser: are we rolling raring?
[20:34] <smoser> rolling
[20:34] <smoser> ?
[20:34] <roaksoax> smoser: rolling release
[20:34] <smoser> as in ephemeral iamges  ?
[20:34] <roaksoax> smoser: both
[20:34] <smoser> afaik there will be a 13.04 release.
[20:35] <roaksoax> smoser: ok.. so we will start doing rolling releases after that then
[20:35] <smoser> i dont actually know the official-ness of that
[20:36] <roaksoax> ok thanks :)
[20:40] <adam_g> zul: about that cinder branch, what does the OLSO_PACKAGE_VERSION get used for?
[20:41] <zul> adam_g: brb need to go pick up the little one and then ill answer your questsion
[20:48] <Mip5> Hi - I'm running 12.04.1 w/plenty of hardware, and recently have begun getting *very* slow progress on "Reading package lists..." from apt-get update. I've checked my raid1 with mdadm, and found no errors. Any ideas as to what I should check next?
[20:49] <jpds> Mip5: strace the process and see what it's done?
[20:50] <Mip5> thanks - I'm reading up on strace now - have never used it...
[20:52] <Mip5> md0_raid1 is showing up in "top" and it is where my root is mounted. The load isn't typically high, but it's showing up consistently in the top 3 or 4 entries in "top"
[20:56] <zul> adam_g:  its a workaround for oslo bug in cinder thats not reporting the right version in the testsuite
[21:13] <hallyn> psivaa: hi, i *think* i've gotten it to where it should run.  Could you do another utah ubuntu-test-cases lxc run?
[21:14] <hallyn> psivaa: (i've been testing by hand, want tomake sure  nothing else goes wrongn for you)
[22:48] <hallyn> psivaa: actually, i just realized the utah testcase copies some of the code instead of bzr checkout-ing it.  setting up a new merge proposal
[23:23] <alllex> Hi who can I find out which charset was used for the name of a folder?
[23:26] <sarnold> alllex: render the name in every charset in turn until you get one that looks right?
[23:27] <alllex> sarnold: exactly,  but how can do this?
[23:27] <alllex> sarnold: exactly,  but how can I do this?
[23:30] <sarnold> alllex: maybe something like this (untested): for l in `locale -a` ; do LC_ALL=$l xterm -e "ls -l /path/to/directory ; sleep 2" ; done ...
[23:50] <azbyin> hi all.. how would I set the current timezone without running dpkg-reconfigure tzdata? i ask because this command is interactive
[23:52] <sarnold> azbyin: iirc, a new symlink, hardlink, or copy, from the zoneinfo you want into /etc/timezone
[23:53] <sarnold> azbyin: see if dpkg-reconfigure -f readline tzdata might save you the hassle
[23:53] <azbyin> right, and and do i need to restart a service (or similar) to update the current time
[23:53] <sarnold> azbyin: ooooh. that's some mighty old neurons there. I _think_ most applications just get the new data automatically but a handful cache the old information...
[23:54] <azbyin> sarnold, thanks for the info on symlink localtime, but your second method is interactive too!
[23:54] <sarnold> azbyin: so it is really the interactive bit that bites, eh? :)
[23:54] <azbyin> yes :)
[23:54] <sarnold> azbyin: there's also a noninteractive frontend, but I don't know what it'd do :) haha
[23:54] <azbyin> i want no frontend, heh


[00:18] <UForgotten> rhpot1991: thats fine I'm not near the box either.
[00:19] <UForgotten> tgm4883: yes I'm using the HDPVR-specific device in mythtv-setup
[00:20] <tgm4883> UForgotten, what audio are you using out of it? optical or R/W?
[00:20] <tgm4883> And how are you changing the channel? Firewire or IR?
[00:20] <UForgotten> trying R/W RCA first, will do opticl
[00:20] <UForgotten> IR for channel change
[00:21] <UForgotten> I took the info on the mythtv wiki and did manage to get a cli bash script that changes channels, and had put tht in the dvr config
[00:22] <tgm4883> You may need to put a sleep at the end of the channel change script
[00:22] <UForgotten> but the mythbackend configs that it is inable to get channel from the device, but it shouldn't be trying that.  When I get back in front of it perhaps I'll do the gather logs script
[00:22] <UForgotten> yes it has the sleep
[00:22] <UForgotten> I'm literallly using the one from mythtv wiki
[00:22] <tgm4883> hmm
[00:23] <UForgotten> I was hoping this was a fairly easy/common setup, otherwise I wouldnt have blown 200 bucks on the pvr :)
[00:23] <tgm4883> I have no issues with mine
[00:23] <tgm4883> but I change channel via firewire
[00:24] <UForgotten> it should just be a simple config issue I'm hoping.  I just need to convince the backend that it doesn't need to query the pvr for what channel it's on, since it can't determine that from the hardware
[01:55] <UForgotten> ergh
[01:55] <UForgotten> ok so I'm back on the myth box
[01:55] <UForgotten> I am able to select watch tv (was failing before) but I don't get video or channel changing.
[01:56] <UForgotten> does not look like it is properly engaging the pvr, no led besides standard power led
[02:00] <UForgotten> damn. mythbuntu broke my lirc config
[02:00] <Zinn> UForgotten: Please watch your language.
[02:01] <UForgotten> 0.o
[02:32] <UForgotten> so anyways. lol
[03:46] <Shadow__X> UForgotten: what are you trying to do
[03:47] <Shadow__X> first and foremost you should read the manual a bit and you need to make sure you have everything correctly setup in myth backend setup
[03:47] <Shadow__X> if not things can/will fail
[03:50] <Shadow__X> also i have found that mythbuntu control center is pretty good with lirc
[13:28] <UForgotten> Shadow__X: not for the Hauppage PVR.  I have the lirc working using the mythtv wiki instructions
[13:28] <UForgotten> Shadow__X: /away
[13:28] <UForgotten> er
[13:29] <UForgotten> heh
[13:32] <UForgotten> Shadow__X: I just want the PVR to work, but myth can't seem to control it properly. It is not taking in video.  I have deleted and re-added it, gone through every config option, no dice.
[13:33] <UForgotten> even downgraded the firmware to 0x15
[23:22] <UForgotten> anyone else noticed if you switch away from updates manager it stops updating the screen?


[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <caribou> o/
[15:01] <Kilos> hi sil2100  caribou
[15:01] <Kilos> oh and infinity
[15:01] <infinity> Hai.
[15:02] <Kilos> whew  and all others
[15:02] <sil2100> hm, I can't seem to access our mumble, is that a known issue guys?
[15:02] <barry> sil2100: wfm
[15:02] <infinity> sil2100: Working for me.
[15:02] <sil2100> barry: did you have to change the password or anything?
[15:02] <barry> sil2100: i don't think so
[15:03] <sil2100> Oh
[15:03] <sil2100> Now it works
[15:03]  * slangasek waves
[15:03] <jodh> o/
[15:04] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May 28 15:04:12 2015 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:04] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:04] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:04] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity mvo sil2100 robru cyphermox)
[15:04] <slangasek> robru jodh sil2100 doko slangasek bdmurray caribou cyphermox infinity mvo barry stgraber
[15:04] <robru> wooooohooooo!
[15:04] <sil2100> I'm nooot reaadyyyy
[15:04] <robru> * Implemented dual landings in CI Train
[15:04] <robru>   - fixed a bug with tracking the migration of a dual landing silo
[15:04] <robru>   - fixed a bug that prevented reconfiguring a dual landing silo
[15:04] <robru> * Various iterations on the spreadsheet replacement & mojo spec.
[15:04] <robru> (done)
[15:04]  * sil2100 hastens
[15:04]  * mvo_ has a conflicting meeting but will try to pay attention here too, please ping me when its my turn
[15:05] <jodh> * upstart:
[15:05] <jodh>   - SRU work for bug 1447756.
[15:05] <jodh> * snappy:
[15:05] <jodh>   - selftest bits.
[15:05] <jodh> * misc:
[15:05] <jodh>   - Super short week as out Mon-Wed.
[15:05] <jodh> ߁
[15:05] <sil2100> Uuh
[15:05] <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails
[15:05] <sil2100> - RTM status meetings and discussions
[15:05] <sil2100> - Mode documentation work: bug management, dual landings, landing guidelines
[15:06] <sil2100> - Deploying a canonistack instance for automated scripts
[15:06] <sil2100> - Fixes to the auto-close scripts
[15:06] <sil2100> - Much system-image channel fun:
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Setting up some new channels for arale
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Various image manipulation etc. for multiple people
[15:06] <sil2100> - Other stuff
[15:06] <sil2100> (done)
[15:06] <sil2100> (the Other stuff is for the things I didn't have time to write up here)
[15:06] <doko> - packaged python3.5 beta1
[15:06] <doko> - packaged python2.7 2.7.10
[15:06] <doko> - looked at autopkg test failures, caused by ProdStack
[15:06] <doko> - golang merge
[15:06] <doko> - GCC 5 updates, and GCC 5 cross updates
[15:06] <doko> (done)
[15:07] <slangasek>  * short week due to US holiday + vac
[15:07] <slangasek>  * signing key for system-image rotated without incident
[15:07] <slangasek>  * arale images are now public on system-image.u.c!
[15:07] <slangasek>  * will be finishing the system-image channel migration over the next week
[15:07] <slangasek> (done)
[15:07] <caribou> Bugfix:
[15:07] <caribou>  - Squid deb proxy startup race condition (Bug: 1456662)
[15:07] <caribou>    * Waiting for mvo's upload to reach Wily to SRU
[15:07] <caribou>  - Maas preseeding with fastinstaller
[15:07] <caribou>  - Misc office work
[15:08] <caribou> (done)
[15:08] <cyphermox>  * tested root=multipath-$UUID changes for booting on multipath
[15:08] <cyphermox>    - needs more work.
[15:08] <cyphermox>  * preparing search/kern patch for grub2-signed bug 1097570;
[15:08] <cyphermox>    - suggesting a new grub_bootdev var to use for hinting search
[15:08] <mvo_> caribou: thanks for the sru! new version should be available now in wily
[15:08] <cyphermox>  * reviewed grub2(-signed) arm64 efi image MP from dannf
[15:08] <cyphermox>  * merged tzsetup (completed)
[15:08] <cyphermox>  * responded to questions on netbooting PowerVM.
[15:08] <bdmurray> caribou: don't forget to say "queue hopping in the meeting"
[15:08] <cyphermox>  * merging/tested localechooser (in progress)
[15:08] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:08]  * bdmurray just waits to the end now
[15:09] <caribou> bdmurray: sorry; I thought I was after slangasek
[15:09] <infinity> bdmurray: Go now, I'll wait. :P
[15:09] <bdmurray> updated daisy to only use the alias if there is one
[15:09] <bdmurray> submitted RTs to have daisy updated on staging / production
[15:09] <bdmurray> fixed a traceback in the errors frontend when viewing a hash of a bucket
[15:09] <bdmurray> submitted RT to have production version of errors updated to r544
[15:09] <bdmurray> continued work on checking LP for packages for apport-retrace
[15:09] <bdmurray> submitted apport merge proposal
[15:09] <bdmurray> updated mp to get source packages from Launchpad for apport-retrace
[15:09] <bdmurray> apport-retrace updates per pitti's suggestions
[15:09] <bdmurray> Tested Launchpad API and getting debs for the overlay PPA
[15:09] <bdmurray> short week due to US holiday
[15:09] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:09] <slangasek> doko: how were autopkgtest failures caused by prodstack?
[15:09] <infinity> - Kernel SRU work
[15:09] <infinity> - lts-vivid X HWE review and wrangling
[15:09] <infinity> - lts-vivid debian-installer work
[15:09] <infinity> - Sort out livefs-crashing-buildds issue
[15:09] <infinity> - Trying to debug ppc gccgo issues
[15:09] <infinity> - Misc SRU and AA work
[15:09] <infinity> (done)
[15:09] <mvo_> apt:
[15:09] <mvo_> - Debug/fix #1445239
[15:09] <mvo_> - New version for wily
[15:09] <mvo_> - Prepare stable-update
[15:09] <mvo_> - python-apt: Improve documentation (thanks Brian Murray)
[15:09] <mvo_> aptdaemon:
[15:09] <mvo_> - some cleanup
[15:09] <mvo_> snappy:
[15:10] <mvo_> - lots of stuff
[15:10] <mvo_> squid-deb-proxy:
[15:10] <mvo_> - Release 0.8.11
[15:10] <infinity> slangasek: I think he means scalingstack.
[15:10] <mvo_> unattended-upgrades:
[15:10] <mvo_> - Review/merge/improve branch to
[15:10] <mvo_>   allowUnattended-upgrade::automatic-reboot-withusers
[15:10] <mvo_> - review/merge/improve branch to allow removal of unused dependencies
[15:10] <mvo_> - uploaded new version
[15:10] <mvo_> (done)
[15:10] <barry> short week due to usa holiday
[15:10] <barry> debuntu: ongoing work on the dpmt git migration (i think we're close!); debian bug #785787; converted pip repo to git (because of the need for separate 1.5.6 & 7.0 branches); LP: #1324391; still need to merge debian pip to ubuntu (or just get rid of the freakin' ubuntu delta that forces --user as default until upstream merges the patch)
[15:10] <barry> si: updated ImageBasedUpgrades wiki page, and documented phased updates.  LP: #1444347
[15:10] <barry> --done--
[15:10] <stgraber>  - LXC/LXD
[15:10] <stgraber>    - Released LXD 0.10 on Tuesday, uploaded to archive, PPAs, ...
[15:10] <stgraber>    - Working on updating the LXD specs post-Malta sprint.
[15:10] <stgraber>    - Code reviews, bug triaging, other admin paperwork
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Other
[15:10] <stgraber>    - QA tracker auth issue fix
[15:10] <stgraber>    - Some system-image discussions
[15:11] <stgraber> (done)
[15:12] <doko> stgraber, and spent some time debugging gccgo. no success yet, so please remove the powerpc binary for now, I'll come back to gccgo later
[15:12] <slangasek> infinity, doko: ok; then /what/ autopkgtest failures were caused by scalingstack? :)
[15:12] <stgraber> doko: ok, I'll remove the powerpc binary
[15:12] <doko>  bug 1459526
[15:13] <infinity> slangasek: Looks like amd64 moved to scalingstack and i386 didn't, so 9 times out of 10, a fail on amd64 and success on i386 means we're being bitten by the network access issue we had that long thread about.
[15:13] <slangasek> infinity: 9 times out of 10 is approximately the entire set of packages that were affected by the change in network policy
[15:14] <mvo_> caribou: I was lying, sorry, it seems like squid-deb-proxy is not up yet
[15:14] <stgraber> reminds me I need to disable half the LXC testsuite
[15:14] <slangasek> unless there have been further changes beyond the ones that were discussed with the CI team
[15:14] <infinity> slangasek: I'm not sure the investigation there of what was affected was exhaustive.
[15:14] <caribou> mvo_: I'm not lying I said I was waiting for it to make it to Wily
[15:14] <caribou> :)
[15:14] <mvo_> caribou: you were not, I was lying :)
[15:16] <infinity> doko: As for gccgo on ppc, I only spent an hour or so looking, but it's definitely confusing.  Debian appears to have a newer binutils, though, is it possible we need to be building gcc-5 with that same newer binutils on ppc?
[15:16] <doko> ohh, I didn't merge ... maybe I should
[15:17] <infinity> doko: Well, gcc-5 is also a Debian revision behind, so maybe if you merge binutils, wait for it to be built, and then merge gcc-5, it'll all magically fix itself, and we can not bother asking why. :P
[15:18] <infinity> doko: I kinda doubt it'll be that easy, but worth a shot.
[15:18] <slangasek> ok, any other questions?
[15:19] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:19] <slangasek> or anything else to discuss? :)
[15:19] <mvo_> caribou: I will upload the new squid-deb-proxy with the fixes today, sorry, I think I dreamed that I already uploaded it
[15:19] <sil2100> I'll be off tomorrow and hard-to-access through phone and internet
[15:19] <sil2100> Will be sending an e-mail about it with details though ;)
[15:19] <infinity> sil2100: Carrier pigeon?
[15:20] <caribou> mvo_: no worry, I hand fixed my own server for the time being
[15:20] <cyphermox> infinity: morse code-tapping carrier pidgeons
[15:20] <sil2100> Those won't work as well
[15:20] <infinity> cyphermox: But where do we get the tiny tap shoes?
[15:20] <slangasek> amazon
[15:20] <cyphermox> the pidgeons get to remember the morse code, that's why you need many pidgeons in parallel
[15:20] <infinity> slangasek: Man, they really do have everything.
[15:20] <cyphermox> 8 of them for better success
[15:21] <caribou> what's the RFC for TCP using carrier pidgeons transport already ?
[15:22] <infinity> 1149
[15:22] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:22] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu May 28 15:22:27 2015 UTC.
[15:22] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-05-28-15.04.moin.txt
[15:22] <slangasek> thanks!
[15:22] <stgraber> thanks!
[15:22] <barry> thanks!
[15:22] <mvo_> thanks
[15:22] <cyphermox> http://xkcd.com/1523/
[15:22] <cyphermox> o/
[15:23] <caribou> thanks! & here is the RFC : https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt
[15:23] <caribou> "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers"
[15:23] <mvo_> cyphermox: haha


[02:03] <The_Letter_M> Hello
[02:07] <sn9> hi
[02:10] <The_Letter_M> How is everyone today?
[02:11] <The_Letter_M> I have a question
[02:11] <The_Letter_M> I have a nettop (as in Atom processor w/ no CDROM or Floppy drive) running Kubuntu, I need to flash the BIOS. Is there a way to do it directly from Kubuntu, or is there a good way I can do it from a USB stick?
[02:11] <seidos> i flashed a bios from a bootable cd, not a usb stick The_Letter_M
[02:12] <The_Letter_M> Did you use like a BartPE boot CD?
[02:12] <seidos> so, i guess it depends on whether your bios manufacturer has a tool that lets you create a usb stick with the update tool on it?
[02:12] <seidos> The_Letter_M: no, there was a tool to burn a cd
[02:13] <seidos> i think it was an iso, sorry, it was awhile ago that i did it
[02:13] <The_Letter_M> oh
[02:14] <seidos> it must have been an iso, if there is an iso on your bios manufacturer's website, you can use "dd" to copy it to usb stick
[02:14] <seidos> dd if=isofile-path of=/dev/sd?
[20:47] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11June5 edited


[04:11] <phillw> infinity: bug 1086974 Thanks :D
[04:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1086974 in libguestfs (Ubuntu Quantal) "libguestfs: error: cannot find any suitable libguestfs supermin" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086974
[08:46] <tjaalton> who rejected sssd?
[08:46] <tjaalton> again
[08:46] <tjaalton> it has a MRE
[08:47] <infinity> Not I.
[08:47] <infinity> slangasek: ?
[08:47] <slangasek> tjaalton: there were two uploads in the queue, I only rejected the one without the MRE bug ref
[08:47] <tjaalton> wait, this was the old version
[08:47] <tjaalton> yeah
[08:48] <tjaalton> this was rejected once before, how did it end up there again?-)
[08:48] <slangasek> er, beats me
[08:48] <tjaalton> unless I had uploaded it twice
[08:48] <infinity> I imagine someone didn't reject it hard enough. :P
[08:48] <tjaalton> or that
[08:48] <infinity> (Or at all)
[08:49] <infinity> It's actually remarkably difficult for mere mortals to move things from rejected back to unapproved, so it probably wasn't rejected in the first place, just discussed.
[08:49] <tjaalton> I did get a rejection email on dec 28th
[08:50] <infinity> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=4&queue_text=sssd
[08:50] <infinity> Or, you uploaded it twice. :P
[08:50] <tjaalton> bah
[08:50] <infinity> With different sources, too.  Different .dsc anyway.
[08:51] <infinity> Anyhow.  Mystery solved.  Back to our regularly scheduled weekend workaholism^whacking^wrest.
[08:53] <tjaalton> yeah, carry on :)
[08:54] <tjaalton> actually, the latest change got in there without a changelog entry..
[08:54] <infinity> Tsk,
[08:54] <infinity> Is that true of the version in the queue, too?
[08:54] <tjaalton> and I could add recent cve fixes there too
[08:54] <infinity> Would you like to quickly replace it?
[08:54] <tjaalton> yeah
[08:54] <infinity> UPLOAD HARDER.
[08:54] <tjaalton> well, just drop it, not like you'll accept it during the weekend anyway :)
[08:55] <infinity> I might.
[08:55] <infinity> I won't accept it in the next few hours, though.
[08:55] <infinity> But my weekend plans are pretty thrilling, and mostly involve SRUs, both my own and others.
[08:55] <infinity> Maybe punctuated with some gin.
[08:56] <tjaalton> hendricks, tanqueray or bombay?-)
[08:56] <infinity> Tanq No. 10.
[08:57] <infinity> At least, that's what's on the desk right now *flails at his gin*.
[08:57] <tjaalton> mm
[08:58] <tjaalton> so I'll prepare a new upload and include the security fixes too
[08:58] <tjaalton> feel free to reject the current one, quantal too
[08:58] <infinity> Shiny.  Going to reuse the version number?  If so, I'll reject the current one right now before someone accidentally accepts.
[08:59] <tjaalton> yeah
[09:35] <Laney> Can someone promote libxkbcommon to get gtk+3.0 out of depwait? bug #1102678
[09:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1102678 in libxkbcommon (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxkbcommon" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102678
[09:45] <infinity> Laney: Looking.
[09:48] <infinity> Laney: Done.
[09:48] <Laney> Danke
[09:49] <infinity> We really need that whole proposed-aware component-mismatches, like, yesterday.
[09:49] <infinity> It's the only way I ever notice these pending MIRs. :/
[09:49] <Laney> Yeah. Wasn't someone working on that?
[09:49] <infinity> *nod*


[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mir (yakkety-proposed/main) [0.24.0+16.10.20160815.3-0ubuntu2 => 0.26.3+16.10.20170531-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mir (zesty-proposed/main) [0.26.2+17.04.20170322.1-0ubuntu2 => 0.26.3+17.04.20170531-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[09:57] <Saviq> seb128, hey, could you please approve these into proposed ↑ SRU is bug #1685186
[10:02]  * apw looks at snapd
[11:47] <seb128> Saviq, hey, sorry but I'm not part of the SRU team
[12:08] <Saviq> seb128, hmm, this is just about acking the upload to proposed, thought it didn't require SRU membership... thanks anyways
[12:39] <seb128> Saviq, it doesn't but the SRU team members have special scripts and stuff to accept uploads that add comments to the bug etc and I'm not familiar with those
[12:39] <seb128> Saviq, technically I can press the button if we really don't have someone from the SRU team around though
[12:40]  * apw looks up ...
[12:41] <apw> Saviq, is that fixing up the mir in xenial trying to be newer than later releases ?
[12:41] <Saviq> apw, yes
[12:53] <apw> now i see why noone wants to review it, it is a sync for one
[13:07] <apw> Saviq, the yakkety update causes two (i think) library transitions, are you handling those ?
[13:07] <Saviq> alan_g, can you comment, please ↑
[13:09] <alan_g> apw: you mean there are newer libs? (They can live alongside.)
[13:10] <apw> right it has 3-4 newer libs if i am reading the control right
[13:14] <alan_g> I don't think there's a problem to handle - both can be installed
[13:14] <apw> ok thanks
[13:15] <alan_g> yw
[15:11] <sergiusens> slangasek: hey, about bileto, this is what I get on "Create new ticket" -> "The server could not verify that you are authorized to access the URL requested. You either supplied the wrong credentials (e.g. a bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required."
[15:16] <slangasek> hmm!
[15:17] <slangasek> sergiusens: do you see that immediately upon clicking?
[15:17] <sergiusens> slangasek: yes
[15:17] <slangasek> sergiusens: ok, not reproducible for me; system doesn't appear to be completely broken
[15:18] <slangasek> sergiusens: upper right hand shows you as logged in as you?
[15:18] <sergiusens> slangasek: may be related to the fact this is the first time I am going to use this
[15:18] <sergiusens> yes, logged in
[15:18]  * sergiusens rinses and repeats
[15:18] <slangasek> sergiusens: well there's your problem, you're not a member of https://launchpad.net/~bileto-users/+members ! how long's it been since you used this last? :-)
[15:19] <sergiusens> slangasek: I never used it ;-)
[15:19] <slangasek> hah
[15:19] <sergiusens> yeah I mentioned that :-P
[15:19] <slangasek> sergiusens: but you know what you're doing?  I've added you now, so shift reload or something
[15:20] <slangasek> sergiusens: AIUI you're landing a branch to click, so the key field to fill out (besides the required fields) is 'Merge Proposal URLS'
[15:21] <sergiusens> sounds good, I used the train before, I suppose this is almost similar expect that I will only land the MP for artful given the comments from yesterday
[15:21]  * sergiusens goes to board a flight back home
[15:21] <sergiusens> thanks
[15:21] <slangasek> ok
[15:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [amd64] (artful-proposed) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu5]
[15:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [arm64] (artful-proposed) [2.02~beta3-4ubuntu5]
[15:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thunderbird [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1:52.1.1+build1-0ubuntu1]
[15:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thunderbird [i386] (artful-proposed) [1:52.1.1+build1-0ubuntu1]
[15:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thunderbird [arm64] (artful-proposed) [1:52.1.1+build1-0ubuntu1]
[15:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted thunderbird [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [1:52.1.1+build1-0ubuntu1]
[16:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (artful-proposed/main) [4.11.0-5.10] (core, kernel)
[16:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaria [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.8.0+repack-1.2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (artful-proposed) [4.11.0-5.10]
[16:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaria [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.8.0+repack-1.2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaria [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.8.0+repack-1.2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaria [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.8.0+repack-1.2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaria [arm64] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.8.0+repack-1.2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaria [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.8.0+repack-1.2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[17:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (zesty-backports/universe) [140-1~ubuntu17.04.1 => 141-2~ubuntu17.04.1] (no packageset)
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit [source] (zesty-backports) [141-2~ubuntu17.04.1]
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (yakkety-backports/universe) [140-1~ubuntu16.10.1 => 141-2~ubuntu16.10.1] (no packageset)
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit [source] (yakkety-backports) [141-2~ubuntu16.10.1]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit (xenial-backports/universe) [140-1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 141-2~ubuntu16.04.1] (no packageset)
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cockpit [source] (xenial-backports) [141-2~ubuntu16.04.1]
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nagios-images (zesty-proposed/main) [0.9.1 => 0.9.1ubuntu0.1] (ubuntu-server)
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: parsedatetime [amd64] (artful-proposed/main) [2.3-1] (ubuntu-server)


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