[05:45] <jldugger> hi
[05:45] <jldugger> https://edge.launchpad.net/~toshiba-tablet  <-- should this be a subteam of the laptop team?
[05:48] <jldugger> https://launchpad.net/~toshiba-tablet if that didn't work


[08:31]  * tsdgeos does happy dance
[08:31] <tsdgeos> i've been able to reproduce the missing icons
[08:31] <tsdgeos> once
[08:31] <tsdgeos> let's see if i can reproduce it more
[08:31] <tsdgeos> but seems it should
[08:37] <Saviq> yay
[08:39] <tsdgeos> yeah reproduced
[08:39] <tsdgeos> now i need to compile qt with some debug symbols
[08:39] <tsdgeos> s/symbols/extra output
[08:42] <Mirv> tsdgeos: hey. I ran all AP:s once again during weekend against silo 018, no regressions. and I rebuilt it to fix the symbol problem it had. but I can't still start konsole etc.
[08:43] <Mirv> and he dropped
[08:44] <Mirv> and he's back
[08:44] <Mirv> [repeat] tsdgeos: hey. I ran all AP:s once again during weekend against silo 018, no regressions. and I rebuilt it to fix the symbol problem it had. but I can't still start konsole etc.
[08:45] <tsdgeos> :/
[08:48] <Mirv> tsdgeos: if for a moment thinking from our side only, could you give 018 a try on your arale or krillin?  I'm not sure if it's a vivid problem in general but I sometimes have trouble with that so that the account adding just endlessly spins or alternatively clicking Install without account yet doesn't bring up the account adding dialog.
[08:49] <tsdgeos> Mirv: i found a way to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1430828 going to try to get it fixed
[08:49] <tsdgeos> or actually
[08:49] <tsdgeos> i guess i should try to make it happen in vivid now that i made it happen on rtm
[08:49] <tsdgeos> since we're not releasing "old rtm" anymore, right?
[08:49] <tsdgeos> next rtm will be vivid afaiu?
[08:50] <Mirv> tsdgeos: correct, no more old rtm. I just started landing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1441822 , I wonder if I should wait to have both?
[08:51] <tsdgeos> Mirv: both == the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1430828 ?
[08:51] <tsdgeos> or?
[08:51] <Mirv> tsdgeos: both, so include 1430828 fix also in the same landing so one round of testing
[08:53] <Mirv> tsdgeos: well, I'll start with 1441822 and if you find a fix before I finish testing I may restart testing the silo so that QA only needs one round of testing
[08:53] <Saviq> Mirv, let me know what testing you need, let's let tsdgeos focus on the image bit
[08:53] <Saviq> tsdgeos, FWIW, we did not backport your "let other requests go while http stuck" change to the image loading code did we?
[08:54] <Mirv> Saviq: ok. so 018 krillin or arale, generic smoke test with special emphasis on installing apps / adding ubuntu account (start with just going to app instllation without first adding an account, and see if account dialog correctly pops up and you can successfully install the app.. if there's problem, try to see if it's anything DBus related or not)
[08:55] <Mirv> Saviq: at least bug #1439263 is still open
[08:56] <Saviq> Mirv, yeah, there's a few levels of what we were able to do
[08:58] <Saviq> Mirv, btw, re: new landing process, so now even if we wanted, we can't land to vivid through citrain, 'cause all silos there have the PPA added as dependency, so there's chance of the PPA having an unwanted impact?
[09:01] <Mirv> Saviq: right, in theory that's the case. there are currently just two landings though in the overlay, qtbase (no effect on anything) and net-cpp (maybe effect on something)
[09:01] <Mirv> Saviq: but we can also switch the dependencies on request
[09:02] <Saviq> Mirv, right, I just wanted to raise awareness, same as when I wrote to Steve that we need those PPAs enabled as deps :)
[09:03] <Mirv> yes, it's a very good point and didn't occur to me (that you need to add those deps to all PPA:s like now has been done)
[09:03] <Saviq> *that PPA
[09:04] <Saviq> tsdgeos, network woes?
[09:04] <Saviq> tsdgeos, FWIW, we did not backport your "let other requests go while http stuck" change to the image loading code did we?
[09:04] <tsdgeos> Saviq: well i need to play with network dhcp to make the thing fail/work/fail/work
[09:04] <tsdgeos> so i'll be unstable today
[09:04] <Saviq> (and I'll help Mirv with the testing)
[09:04] <tsdgeos> Saviq: not afaik
[09:05] <Saviq> tsdgeos, right, that my other suspicion :)
[09:06] <Mirv> Saviq: adding that PPA (overylay) dep to all PPA:s (silos), that is
[09:06] <Saviq> yup
[09:07] <Saviq> tsdgeos, can you point to the right commit? we want to backport it regardless of the async provider bits, right/
[09:07] <tsdgeos> Saviq: so there's two commits
[09:07] <tsdgeos> one with tha async provider bits
[09:07] <tsdgeos> and another without it
[09:08] <Saviq> oh right, so we rather want the full monty
[09:09] <tsdgeos> so https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/109756/3//ALL,unified is just the fix for images not stalled by http
[09:09] <tsdgeos> the other one is https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/108540/
[09:09] <Saviq> tsdgeos, thanksies
[09:29] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, hey, i'm looking at solving https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1335761 in the shell-plugin, using gotoScope(scopeid) signal
[09:29] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, looks like it could work, but shell is complaining
[09:29] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, "qml: No match for scope with id: mediascanner-video"
[09:30] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ah. i think this is because it's a temporary scope i'm currently in
[09:30] <tsdgeos> let me see
[09:31] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, so I'm in My Videos, which is not favorited. I open a preview there. In the preview i've a button that executes new search in My Videos.
[09:31] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: are you sending a gotoScope?
[09:31] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, well, in my modified branch only
[09:32] <tsdgeos> it's the only way that warning is triggered
[09:32] <tsdgeos> and gotoscope is not ok for non favorite scopes, no?
[09:32] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes, it's not going to work with temp scopes
[09:32] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, we need a new signal then?
[09:33] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, e.g. showResults()
[09:34] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: give me  a sec
[09:35] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, i don't like abusing any other signal for that
[09:37] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: so what we are doing here is "close previews"
[09:37] <tsdgeos> basically?
[09:40] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes
[09:41] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: same question i made the other day, can't we just hide previews if the scope search string changes?
[09:41] <tsdgeos> sorry don't remember the answer :D
[09:41] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, but this is a common piece of code inside the plugin where i don't know if i'm in the preview, therefore i'd prefer to just signal the need to show results rather than call it 'hidePreview'
[09:42] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, no, the query may be the same
[09:42] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, the scope may want to just refresh the results
[09:42] <tsdgeos> k
[09:43] <tsdgeos> then yes, we're going to need a new signal from the scope i guess
[09:44] <tsdgeos> there's a showDash signal
[09:44] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, there is, yes. would it work?
[09:44] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: actaully if you emit that one, it would work already i think
[09:44] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, isn't preview the dash as well
[09:45] <pstolowski> ok i can try
[09:45] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: it is, but we do
[09:45] <tsdgeos> ./Dash/GenericScopeView.qml:145:        onShowDash: subPageLoader.closeSubPage()
[09:45] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, nice
[09:45] <tsdgeos> and that will hide the preview
[09:45] <tsdgeos> i think :D
[09:45] <tsdgeos> since we have
[09:45] <tsdgeos>     function closePreview() {
[09:45] <tsdgeos>         subPageLoader.closeSubPage()
[09:45] <tsdgeos> :D
[09:46] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ok, thanks, checking
[09:56] <Saviq> pstolowski, yeah, showDash should work for that (if it doesn't - our bug), showDash was always meant as "go to dash in response to a preview action"
[09:57] <pstolowski> Saviq, yes and no. i found a case where it doesn't do the right thing, but that's the problem of our navigation
[09:59] <Saviq> pstolowski, right, it probably doesn't do the right thing when you have a temp scope and you want to go back to that temp scope
[09:59] <pstolowski> Saviq, it gets me back to video aggregator view when called from the preview of an aggregated result. i'm now looking if it's a plugin issue
[10:00] <Saviq> pstolowski, we're likely closing the temp scope on showDash actually
[10:00] <pstolowski> Saviq, ah, this could be the case
[10:02] <pstolowski> Saviq, hmm no, it actually breaks if both Videos and MyVideos are favorited.. investigating the plugin
[10:09] <Mirv> Saviq: is it a known bug that when one clicks Install and it gives you Ubuntu One dialog, unity8-dash consumes 150% CPU? this is now without PPA since I just upgraded to latest image
[10:16] <Mirv> Saviq: bug #1446150 feel free to mark as duplicate
[10:18] <Mirv> Saviq: meanwhile, unping related to the account adding problems being 018 specific since I seem to have the same spinning animation on stock image too
[10:21] <pstolowski> Saviq, tsdgeos it works! I made a little mistake in the plugin, just fixed it and it works, I've tried all the combinations of temp/favorite with aggregator and a child
[10:22] <tsdgeos> :)
[10:24] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: so no change needed on our side?
[10:32] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, correct
[10:33] <tsdgeos> \o/ :D
[10:35] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: so i assigned https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1335761 to you
[10:35] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yup, thanks
[10:36] <Saviq> Mirv, it feels bug #1441822 could be related
[10:38] <Saviq> Mirv, can you confirm CPU goes high without clicking "Install"?
[10:42] <tsdgeos> Saviq: soooo, i can reproduce the images bug in rtm but not in ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/krillin.en-proposed
[10:42] <tsdgeos> Saviq: question is, should i try to spend some time in rtm trying to fix it? or just wait for something vivid-based to be released and see if others can still reproduce it?
[10:43] <Saviq> tsdgeos, can you comment on the bug with steps you used to reproduce
[10:43] <tsdgeos> yeah
[10:43] <Saviq> tsdgeos, and no, no point in fixing in RTM since we're not releasing that any more
[10:43] <tsdgeos> it's what comment #29 said basically
[10:43] <tsdgeos> disabled dhcp on my router
[10:44] <tsdgeos> but yeah i'll give a full comment info in there
[10:45] <Mirv> Saviq: please ask on the bug report so I can check later. I just started AP suites run and don't want to abort.
[10:45] <Saviq> Mirv, will do
[10:49] <Saviq> /food
[13:12] <dandrader> Saviq, so, what's next for shellRotation?
[13:12] <Saviq> dandrader, reviews
[13:14] <dandrader> mzanetti, ^^
[13:14] <mzanetti> dandrader, is the silo up to date?
[13:14] <Saviq> MacSlow, was there any AP failure you were looking at, still?
[13:15] <Saviq> mzanetti, not silo, PPA
[13:15] <Saviq> dandrader, mzanetti, u8 failed to build on Friday apparently
[13:16] <Saviq> dandrader, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10856056/
[13:18] <MacSlow> Saviq, ok... was battling with systemd all morning... but will take a look now
[13:18] <dandrader> Saviq, crap, bad merge
[13:18] <dandrader> will fix it
[13:19] <Saviq> MacSlow, I was asking, not telling ;)
[13:20] <MacSlow> Saviq, well... I've not mcuh I can do on the unity8-launcher feature-parity front atm (no feedback from Design yet) so working on the shellRotation-MP comments seems a logical task-switch atm
[13:21] <MacSlow> Saviq, we've (you, kgunn) to split the card still
[13:22] <Saviq> MacSlow, right, but we've a stable set of tests atm, it's just that review process need to continue?
[13:23] <MacSlow> Saviq, I'll do what I can wrt to the MP-comments/requests
[13:23] <kgunn> MacSlow: but the question is, is there a known aspect of the test that fails intermittently
[13:23] <kgunn> (unrelated to the crashing)
[13:24] <kgunn> ?
[13:24] <MacSlow> kgunn, no ... the test is fine... from all the MP-comments I see, they are all "this would be nicer to do in such a way"
[13:24] <kgunn> got it
[13:28] <MacSlow> kgunn, regarding the unity8-launcher feature-parity card... splitting up the card into the six remaining checklist-points I leave to you/saviq
[13:28] <kgunn> mk
[13:29] <kgunn> MacSlow: sounds like it's all effectively blocked ?
[13:29] <MacSlow> kgunn, yup
[13:29] <MacSlow> kgunn, maybe some manager-level poking will help :)
[13:29] <tsdgeos> mterry: you do https://code.launchpad.net/~josharenson/unity8/greeter_mode/+merge/256385 ?
[13:30] <kgunn> design is swamped...no amount of poking will help i think
[13:30] <mterry> tsdgeos, sure
[13:33] <tsdgeos> Saviq: so i'll mark the loading images bug as fixed for vivid as Pat suggests and hope that the one case i see fixed also fixes the cases victor was seeing
[13:33] <MacSlow> kgunn, expected somehow
[13:56] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yup, I really feel it all came down to network going awry
[14:02] <tsdgeos> Saviq: maybe
[14:35] <dandrader> josharenson, the new https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/homeKey/+merge/256658 is waiting for your review :)
[14:36] <josharenson> dandrader: ack, I'll do it today
[14:37] <josharenson> mterry:  While we're at it, can you review this today if you have time? https://code.launchpad.net/~josharenson/unity8/greeter_mode
[14:38] <mterry> josharenson, maybe?  I did claim the review but am not sure of my schedule today -- trying to get a handle on several bugs that have accrued  :)
[14:38] <josharenson> mterry: no problem, I know the features aren't critical and that you just got back to real life
[16:06] <Saviq> elopio, hey, I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-flake8/+merge/256510
[16:06] <elopio> Saviq: thanks. I'll take a look soon.
[23:27] <mterry> What handles the normal power press for screen on/off?  I see PhysicalKeysMapper which handles long presses.  But I don't see the short-press code
[23:39] <greyback_> mterry: usc handles it


[00:10] <hipitihop> superm1: the patch mentioned in your link also does not specifically mention 15c2:0043 unless it is intended to be covered by { USB_DEVICE(0x15c2, 0xffdc) } on line 63. I have no idea about these things so just guessing.
[00:12] <hipitihop> superm1: also seems to be a patch for 0.8.4a and I have 0.8.6
[00:33] <ScumBag> I'm having some issues with sound in 9.10. Can anyone help?
[00:33] <hipitihop> rhpot1991: sorry see my responses above to superm1, my bad
[00:41] <hipitihop> superm1: as for usbhid, if I do "sudo mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb" and "sudo cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" then the driver listed is usbhi. See this pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/294277/
[00:42] <hipitihop> ScumBag: not sure I know enough to help but what is your problem... I had a problem with no sound (running hdmi) and simply needed to use the mixer to enable it
[00:51] <ToeBee> hehe seems like there have been plenty of sound problems in 9.10
[00:51] <ToeBee> now that I have mine working I am deathly afraid of updating anything
[01:01] <hads> Wonder if I can update while my wife is watching TV.
[01:01] <hads> Why not.
[01:04] <ToeBee> that's why god made SSH!
[01:05] <hads> Oh of course, that's how I do everything, just going to see if I can do it without her noticing.
[01:05] <hads> I think I did a couple of releases ago :)
[01:05] <ToeBee> apparently god is from Finland
[01:27] <hads> Crap. My connection to that box died and I forgot to use screen
[01:33] <hads> Yay this is going to be fun to recover.
[01:33] <ToeBee> heh
[01:38] <mrand> ToeBee: save the config files and current package versions off, then  upgrade  away!
[01:59] <ToeBee> actually... I have a spare TB drive sitting around. I could just dd the whole thing and be done with it!
[02:19] <mrand> Toebee: Indeed.  After the update, if everything is going good, you just update with dd again in case something else happens.
[02:24] <ToeBee> or I could rsync to my fileserver
[02:24] <ToeBee> oh the options
[02:54] <wolfspirit> ok so I installed mythbuntu 9.10 beta (I used to have 9.04) and I can't scan any channels.  With this new version it's locking me into a specific channel range based on the source.  I usually choose cable high (I have basic HD cable) and was able to get the HD channels (example 5-1, 9-1, etc.) but can no longer get those.  How do I get it to scan all channels and not be locked into a range?
[02:54] <hads> Aha, fixed you damn mysql
[02:54] <Zinn> hads: Please watch your language.
[02:55] <hads> Sorry Zinn :)
[02:57] <ToeBee> Zinn seems like a teetotaler
[03:01]  * hads stabs lirc
[03:04]  * rhpot1991 seconds any action against lirc
[03:05] <rhpot1991> I liked zinn's curse detection better when he used to yell at you for saying "passes"
[03:14] <wolfspirit> anyone?
[03:29]  * hipitihop would like lirc to work with his remote and then he's happy to help hads hold the knife
[03:29] <tmkt> which remote?
[03:30] <hipitihop> tmkt: It is an Antec Veris Basic see http://paste.ubuntu.com/294277/
[03:32] <hipitihop> tmkt: seems usbhid is grabbing it and I don't know how to go forward. I do have lirc 0.8.6 installed dmesg returns:
[03:32] <hipitihop> dmesg | grep "lirc"
[03:32] <hipitihop> [   16.995172] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
[03:32] <hipitihop> [   17.019875] lirc_imon: Driver for SoundGraph iMON MultiMedia IR/Display, v0.6
[03:32] <hipitihop> [   17.019949] usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_imon
[03:35] <hads> Bummer, nvidia isn't playing nice now. At least I have lirc and mysql installed again :)
[03:35] <hads> And I've still got an hour before recordings start for the night
[03:37] <tmkt> ah..different then my issues
[03:37] <tmkt> mine was i2c
[03:38] <hipitihop> have to reboot, brb
[03:58] <superm1> hads, what's broke with nvidia now?
[04:02] <hads> superm1: Nothing, I'm working with 173 now.
[04:02] <hads> 185 didn't install but perhaps this card is too old.
[04:03] <superm1> hads, it should have guessed for you which one it needed
[04:03] <superm1> did it guess wrong?
[04:03] <hads> Yeah, 185 was recommended but when I tried to activate it it flashed up the "download and install" dialog then did nothing.
[04:04] <hads> This is a 7600 card.
[04:04] <superm1> weird
[04:04] <hads> Which will be updated very soon :)
[04:04] <superm1> i've got 185 on a 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
[04:04] <superm1> works like a charm
[04:05] <hads> Odd. Dunno. I'm more concerned about this segfault everytime I try to enter the guide :)
[04:05] <superm1> Feature
[04:06] <hads> hehe, must just be the metallurgy theme. Mythbuntu is working.
[04:06] <hads> Only took a few hours to fix everything from an aborted do-release-upgrade. I think I'm done now.
[04:08] <hads> Apart from some weird audio thump
[04:09] <superm1> i'm glad you're finding all the features that we snuck in :) that one is debian/patches/15-annoy-hads-with-audio.patch
[04:09]  * hads giggles
[04:12] <hads> The mythvideo "DVD/Video contains a bookmark" dialog has got an amusingly small font on the buttons.
[04:26] <nemesis1911> hi guys I'm having problem getin my Hauppauge PVR 150 running with sound .. the way I'm doing it is by going vlc /dev/video1 and changeing the channels with Zapping tv..
[04:27] <nemesis1911> can anyone help me I'm running Ubuntu 9.04.. and I have a Hauppauge PVR 150 capture card
[04:27] <nemesis1911> ???
[04:33] <nemesis1911> is anyone even in here
[04:33] <nemesis1911> WTF
[04:33] <hads> The PVR150 encodes to MPEG so the sound is in there
[04:36] <nemesis1911> .. how well it don't work for me how can I fix it dude
[04:40] <nemesis1911> is there meybe a something I can add to vlc /dev/video1 .. like audio . something .. I dunno.. ???
[04:40] <oobe> is there a version of mythstream that works with 22 fixes repo
[04:43] <mrand> 0.22 version of mythstream: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
[04:53] <oobe> yeah got it thanks
[04:53] <oobe> i built it works fine
[05:01] <Seventoes> all right even with all the latest updates im getting stuck on "Scanning us-cable-hrc 1 No lock" with my PVR-150
[05:02] <Seventoes> in 9.10
[05:11] <Seventoes> should i report it?
[05:18] <Seventoes> anyone home? :(
[05:22] <superm1> sounds like a bug to me
[05:22] <Seventoes> how do i report?
[05:22] <superm1> ubuntu-bug mythtv
[05:22] <superm1> run that command and it will file a bug for you
[05:22] <Seventoes> k
[05:32] <Seventoes> oo wow automatic upload of info.. thats gotta be handy for devs!
[05:33] <superm1> assuming it captures all the right info, yes :)
[05:33] <superm1> unfortunately still working out some of the kinks with it
[05:33] <Seventoes> better than "Updated: Please upload the output of this command"
[05:33] <Seventoes> 4 times in a row
[05:33] <Seventoes> lol
[05:34]  * Seventoes works on getting remote working while awaiting word from devs
[05:49] <hads> Umm, weird, NZDT is Pacific/Auckland silly mythfrontend.
[08:14] <hads> That was interesting, I just moved my database and master backend to another server without any major hassles.
[09:54] <jeffjeffdejeff> a little assistance needed please.  cannot play dvds at all.  even when running the desktop.  when through the front end, nothing happens when i put a disk into the drive, nor when i click on play dvd through the front end menu.any suggestions?
[09:55] <jeffjeffdejeff> vlc says it can't play the video_ts file.
[09:55] <jeffjeffdejeff> do i need to install restricted drivers/decoders etc?
[10:01] <hads> jeffjeffdejeff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[10:01] <hads> !dvd
[10:01] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about dvd
[10:02] <hads> Oh poor Zinn
[10:11] <jeffjeffdejeff> hi hads.  tried that.  looks like libdvdread was already installed
[10:11] <jeffjeffdejeff> this is a fresh install of 9.04.  not sure if that helps or not
[10:57] <jeffjeffdejeff> any suggestions as to why my cd playback is not smooth? big pauses in playback.  have tried several cds.  all same outcome.
[10:57] <jeffjeffdejeff> anything settings i can adjust?  dvd playback is fine
[12:44] <hipitihop> I'm getting the following kept back "linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic" is that due to mirrors lagging or some other issue ?
[13:09] <jeffjeffdejeff> all.  anyone able to take me through step by step getting my remote for my hauppauge td500 to work please?
[13:27] <rgd> If 9.04, I think you need to install the latest v4l drivers, described at http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-T-500
[13:27] <rgd> so you get the 1.20 firmware
[13:27] <jeffjeffdejeff> already came with it
[13:28] <rgd> ok, then i found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140411 to be the most useful for getting all the config stuff set up
[13:30] <jeffjeffdejeff> hi there. thanks. i'll have a look.  does it matter that modprobe.d/options.conf doesn't exist?  my reception seems to be ok without enabling lna
[13:37] <rgd> I tried enabling it once, but it seemed to make very little difference to the reception, so you can probably ignore it
[13:40] <jeffjeffdejeff> thanks.  so at the moment i'm just going through and copying all the details from his various files and saving them.  ?
[13:42] <rgd> yeah. You might want to also check that dmesg says something like "IR receiver inside USB DVB blah blah" somewhere, just to make sure it's recognised
[13:43] <rgd> oh and there is a " missing after REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/irremote in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[13:46] <jeffjeffdejeff> ok.  saved all the files.  do i now reboot? at what stage, and how do i go about checking dmesg?
[13:46] <jeffjeffdejeff> thanks for telling me about the missing " i wouldn't have spotted that
[13:47] <rgd> if you run sudo /etc/init.d/lircd restart
[13:47] <rgd> and see if it is happy
[13:47] <jeffjeffdejeff> command not found :(
[13:48] <rgd> i may have got it wrong
[13:48] <jeffjeffdejeff> shall i just reboot?
[13:49] <rgd> yeah it will have the same effect. I dont have my mythbuntu pc with me at the moment
[13:50] <jeffjeffdejeff> no problem. i appreciate your help so far.  just rebooting at the moment.  if all has gone according to plan, should the remote work when the front end has loaded?
[13:50] <rgd> theoretically. I find things rarely do though :)
[13:51] <jeffjeffdejeff> yeah, i have found the same.  nothing seems to go smoothly, from even getting the display working, to getting the cd drive to play without gaps....right, just booting up now.......drum roll.....
[13:52] <jeffjeffdejeff> :(
[13:55] <wombo> Stab Damn
[13:55] <Zinn> wombo: Please watch your language.
[13:55] <wombo> ignore me
[13:56] <rgd> If it didnt work, try typing dmesg into a console, and see if you get  "IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver" in there somewhere
[14:03] <jeffjeffdejeff> dont see anything in there
[14:03] <rgd> oh. It usually appears after all DVB stuff
[14:03] <rgd> If it doesn't, I think you have to install the latest v4l drivers until it does
[14:04] <jeffjeffdejeff> how do i go about doing that? sorry for the questions
[14:07] <rgd> If you follow http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-T-500#Making_it_Work_.28generic_for_all_dib0700.29
[14:07] <rgd> there is a link in there to generic instructions for downloading/compiling it etc
[14:24] <jeffjeffdejeff> making my way through it, but it means nothing to me! :)
[14:25] <jeffjeffdejeff> just making the modules...whatever that means.
[14:35] <jeffjeffdejeff> blimey. seems to be a lott going on just to make a remote control work. :s
[14:37] <jeffjeffdejeff> gettina few "warning: format not a string literal and no format arguments" comments coming up.  does that matter?
[14:38] <rgd> erm i hope not!
[14:39] <jeffjeffdejeff> haha
[14:39] <jeffjeffdejeff> this is taking ages.  i've yet to do the sudo make install bit yet.
[14:40] <rgd> yeah I found mythv/mythbuntu to be a pain to get working, but once it was working it was great. Wheras all the freebie windows things i tried were easy to set up, but had a habbit of screwing up in the middle of important sports events
[14:40] <jeffjeffdejeff> well it's working fine with the keyboard after setting it up today....but can't imagine the other half would be happy without the remote working
[14:41] <jeffjeffdejeff> did you have to build and install the v4l drivers too?
[14:43] <rgd> yes. 9.10 works without doing that, but its still beta so there are other problems with it atm
[14:43] <jeffjeffdejeff> much of a difference with 9.10?
[14:44] <jeffjeffdejeff> i always worry that something will stop working after upgrading - even to a "stable" release
[14:45] <jeffjeffdejeff> (god, it's now on "stage 2" of building.  hope there isn't a stage 3)
[14:46] <rgd> I tried 9.10 out and found it was pretty good actually. The interface is a bit nicer, and it had the latest drivers for bits and bobs. Also flash worked at full screen which it never did for me in 9.04. I still get occasional crashes at the moment, so I am using 9.04 for day to day stuff.
[14:47] <rgd> once i got everything working in 9.04, I didnt install any more updates as they pretty much always broke something
[14:47] <jeffjeffdejeff> would that explain why i can''t view youtube videos fullscreen in ff?  just closes?
[14:47] <rgd> I could view it, but it was really jerky
[14:48] <jeffjeffdejeff> oh.  well this pc i've installed it on is quite old.  so not expecting too much out of it.  but will be nice to record and schedule tv.
[14:49] <jeffjeffdejeff> just got to "sudo make install"  reboot and then see what happens i suppose?  is there anything else to do after that?
[14:49] <rgd> after that you should get the "IR inside blah blah" stuff
[14:50] <rgd> which means the rest should work
[14:50] <jeffjeffdejeff> so, what's the command i enter to see that?
[14:50] <rgd> dmesg
[14:51] <jeffjeffdejeff> cheers
[14:51] <jeffjeffdejeff> what's an ir blaster?
[14:51] <jeffjeffdejeff> keep reading references to them, but no idea what they are
[14:53] <rgd> Dunno. Someone here probably does?
[14:56] <jeffjeffdejeff> ok.  now see "input: ir-receiver inside an usb dvb receiver as /devices/pci0000 blah blah input/input6
[14:57] <jeffjeffdejeff> what now boss?
[14:58] <rgd> type irw
[14:58] <rgd> and then press buttons on the remote
[14:58] <rgd> and hopefully, stuff appears
[14:58] <jeffjeffdejeff> nothing appearing in console when i'm pressing thebuttons
[14:59] <rgd> does /dev/input/irremote exist?
[14:59] <jeffjeffdejeff> yup
[15:00] <rgd> ok try sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[15:00] <rgd> (hopefully i got it right that time)
[15:00] <jeffjeffdejeff> do i need to select and enable and ir transmitter in control center?
[15:01] <rgd> I think that just sets up the config files which you should have by following that forum post
[15:01] <jeffjeffdejeff> ok,  got a fail on starting remote control daemon: lirc
[15:01] <rgd> does it say anything interesting?
[15:01] <jeffjeffdejeff> ok.  done it again after closing control center and get an ok for all 3
[15:02] <jeffjeffdejeff> still nothing after irw and pressing the buttons though
[15:04] <rgd> hmm usually it works at this point :)
[15:04] <jeffjeffdejeff> :(
[15:05] <rgd> If there are no errors from /et..../lirc restart or irw, it is probably one of the config files which is wrong somehow, from the forum post
[15:06] <jeffjeffdejeff> think it's worth copying and pasting them again?  did you use those ones?
[15:06] <rgd> yes i used those.
[15:07] <rgd> hmm i did also have to do the hal stuff (first reply in that forum post) when i first did this, but alledgedly that should be fixed now. its another thing to try though
[15:08] <rgd> although i think i got crap out in irw when i pressed the arrows keys, which meant i needed to do that. No output is probably something different
[15:09] <shashwatpns> when try running mythtv backend setup it always shows me "No Unup" backends found" and then "cannot login into database". Please help
[15:09] <shashwatpns>  ???????????
[15:13] <jeffjeffdejeff> so you recon copying in the code in the first reply into the /usr/shar/hal etc might be worth a try?
[15:15] <rgd> well when i did this, the remotes arrow keys worked, but not any of the other buttons, and that fixed it.
[15:15] <rgd> So its not quite the same
[15:15] <rgd> But it probably wont hurt anything either...
[15:16] <jeffjeffdejeff> where would i put it within the file?  there's something similar in there, but without the "inside an usb dvb receiver" etc
[15:18] <jeffjeffdejeff> hmmm. well i've put it in, and now rebooting......
[15:19] <rgd> i dont think that file existed when i did it
[15:19] <rgd> so maybe that is the "fixed" one
[15:25] <jeffjeffdejeff> hmmm.  no difference. ;(
[15:30] <jeffjeffdejeff> right, got stuff appearing in irw!
[15:31] <rgd> stuff that looks like they are labled button presses?
[15:31] <jeffjeffdejeff> yup!
[15:31] <jeffjeffdejeff> looks like it's working in the menus...
[15:31] <jeffjeffdejeff> now trying whilst watching tv
[15:32] <jeffjeffdejeff> yeah, it works.  takes ages to change channel though - think that could be down to having bugger all ram?
[15:33] <rgd> maybe. Mine takes a few seconds, max about 5 i think
[15:33] <jeffjeffdejeff> thank you very much for your help, patience and perseverence
[15:34] <rgd> you're welcome :)
[16:07] <jeffjeffdejeff> rgd - you still around? have a question for you
[16:07] <rgd> yep
[16:08] <jeffjeffdejeff> when selecting through channels, it seems that it only sticks to bbc channels when i press up and down.  something to do with the same multiplex?
[16:12] <rgd> as in it wont change to other channels? Or the channels aren't listed?
[16:13] <jeffjeffdejeff> both.  after a reset they're all listed, but after some time (and perhaps me trying to record something) if i'm on a bbc channel, it will go from bbc1, to 2, bbc4, 7, cbeebies etc.  nothing inbetween. :s
[16:16] <rgd> oh. I've never seen that i'm afraid.
[16:16] <rgd> There is a "log grabber" application in the xfce menu which grabs lots of mythtv logs. maybe those will give you a clue?
[16:17] <jeffjeffdejeff> ok thanks
[16:18] <jeffjeffdejeff> hmmm. looks like it had something to do with after i pressed record.
[16:24] <rgd> If all the tuners are busy recording, maybe it constrains you to channels in the same multiplex?
[17:02] <jeffjeffdejeff> little disappointed about the time it takes to change channels.  anything that can be done about that?
[17:12] <tmkt> btw is mythexport supposed to work?
[17:13] <tmkt> without hacking around, and rebuilding packages?
[17:16] <superm1> rhpot1991, ^
[17:17] <rhpot1991> tmkt: it should for the most part, going to have some ffmpeg issue on karmic still
[17:17] <rhpot1991> tmkt: whats the issue?
[17:18] <tmkt> when i tried last week
[17:19] <tmkt> with a special build of ffmpeg
[17:19] <tmkt> once i synched the podcast with my phone
[17:19] <rhpot1991> special build from where?
[17:19] <tmkt> the iphone complained that it couldn't play the videos
[17:19] <tmkt> just following instructions on adding xvid and h264 faac codecs to ffmpeg
[17:19] <rhpot1991> the ffmpeg lines it produces are meant to use with ubuntu's ffmpeg, if you have another you will need to adjust acordingly
[17:19] <rhpot1991> tmkt: what version of ubuntu/
[17:19] <rhpot1991> ?
[17:19] <tmkt> 9.10b
[17:20] <rhpot1991> :(
[17:20] <rhpot1991> ya we lost aac in ffmpeg for karmic, and its not coming back
[17:20] <tmkt> the videos played fine in itunes
[17:21] <rhpot1991> in theory you should be able to just use mp3 instead, swap in -acodec libmp3lame
[17:21] <tmkt> but errored out on iphone
[17:21] <tmkt> ok
[17:21] <rhpot1991> my test failed when my friend tried it on his iphone though
[17:21] <rhpot1991> and my ipod is busted so its a little slow testing
[17:22] <tmkt> would love to have it working
[17:22] <rhpot1991> tmkt: what I would do, is get an ffmpeg line from the log, and then run it by hand a few times and try tweaking it till you get something working
[17:23] <tmkt> yeah...thing is....lately the ffmpeg line has disapeared from the logs
[17:23] <rhpot1991> it opens up the ffmpeg args in the config so its fixable once we figure out what we can produce that the ipod likes withour current ffmpeg
[17:24] <rhpot1991> hmmm, no spaces or special chars in your config name right?
[17:24] <tmkt> nope
[17:24] <tmkt> just default
[17:25] <rhpot1991> what version are you on?
[17:26] <tmkt> of?
[17:26] <rhpot1991> dpkg -l |grep mythexport
[17:26] <tmkt> ii  mythexport                           2.1.2-0ubuntu1
[17:28] <rhpot1991> ok good make sure you did this: MythExport now logs everything to /var/log/mythtv/mythexport.log If you are having issues see the log for relevant information. By default, debugging info is not logged. To enable it, edit /etc/init.d/mythexport and add "debug" to the ARGS variable. Then sudo /etc/init.d/mythexport restart
[17:28] <rhpot1991> see if you get ffmpeg lines then
[17:30] <tmkt> k..look into it shortly...gotta wlak kid to school
[17:31] <rhpot1991> tmkt: ok ping me when you have a look, I'll do some more ipod tests this afternoon
[17:57] <tmkt> going to give it a shot now
[18:00] <tmkt> nothing showimng up in the q
[18:02] <tmkt> Export Recording to iPhone (Errored: Fri Oct 16, 2009, 01:00 PM)
[18:02] <tmkt> ERROR: Unable to find executable, check backend logs.
[18:07] <ushills> Hi tried to upgrade my mythbuntu to 0.22 and now it says I have a corrupted database.  Tried to guide and still fails help!!
[18:10] <ushills> The problem has occured during upgradeing my database schema
[18:40] <rhpot1991> tmkt: ls -lah /usr/bin/mythexport*
[18:40] <rhpot1991> what are your results of that
[19:10] <tmkt> ah
[19:10] <tmkt> doesn't exist
[19:10] <tmkt>  ls -latr /usr/bin/mythex*
[19:10] <tmkt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21492 2009-10-08 23:42 /usr/bin/mythexport-daemon
[19:10] <tmkt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  2725 2009-10-08 23:42 /usr/bin/mythexport_addjob
[19:12] <rhpot1991> tmkt: that looks good, what is it trying to hit?
[19:12] <tmkt> ? whenever i try to export something to iphone..i get that message
[19:12] <tmkt> and nothing about ffmpeg in the logs
[19:13] <rhpot1991> tmkt: ok so check your backend logs and see what its trying to hit in there
[19:13] <rhpot1991> /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[23:55] <ToeBee> hmm may have hit a bug in mythweb or something
[23:56] <ToeBee> under "Upcoming recordings" I have two shows listed tonight (one after the other)
[23:56] <ToeBee> when i click on the first one, the radio button is set to "record only this showing"
[23:56] <ToeBee> but when i click on the 2nd one the radio button is set to "do not record this program
[23:58] <ToeBee> oh that's nifty. Under "Recording Schedules" that show is listed 3 times (probably the 3 times I told it to record because the radio button kept coming up wrong)
[23:59] <ToeBee> ok yeah if I delete two of them things seem to be back the way they should be


[03:58] <mup> PR snapd#9681 opened: tests: Fix snap-debug-bootvars test to make it work on arm devices and core18 <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9681>


[18:30] <tomreyn> beta4: actually i assume you already have the nvidia one powered off as much as you can. here's another suggestion / hack from someone in ##linux: vfio-pci.ids=10de:1184,10de:0e0a  (this id is an example, we would need to modify it for you). this kernel parameter will make the device at this pci address unavailable to this system. this module is actually used to rebind / passthrough pci devices to a VM. but you could just make it unavailable and
[18:30] <tomreyn> never pass it to a VM.
[18:30] <kaleidoscope> jsubl2: yes, thank you very much! :)
[18:30] <tomreyn> someone_: you already have those firmwares installed.
[18:31] <jsubl2> and thanks rfm
[18:31] <beta4> now going to eat, back soon, first I'll hae to get to the preious point, hopefully without reinstalling kubuntu again
[18:32] <themusicgod1> ossare: are you using any proprietary video drivers?
[18:33] <someone_> tomreyn  but it does not work well, so maybe not-free is better .
[18:33] <tomreyn> saderror256_: you can install random packages using "apt install /path&to/package.dpkg" - but this may break apt. you really don't want to do this unless you know exactly that this packager is compatible to your very ubuntu release and architecture.
[18:34] <tomreyn> someone_: this packages you found is a package from the debian distribution. they have separate packages for free and non-free firmware. ubuntu has them all in one, installed by default. you already have it.
[18:34] <tomreyn> someone_: your approach is still bad. you need to read up more on things before you do things.
[18:35] <tomreyn> someone_: people here keep warning you about this :-/
[18:35] <someone_> tomreyn Ok, thanks.
[18:35] <tomreyn> beta4: oh, that's bad, i missed your other messages.
[18:36] <tomreyn> beta4: try a cold boot, battery removed
[18:37] <beta4> battery is internal in this laptop
[18:37] <ossare> Hello.  Upgraded to 18.04 this morning. Upgrade went fine, except for X. It won't start a session from GDM -- blinks and returns to the login screen. startx runs but gives me a Gnome desktop that takes no input (and also has no icons on the desktop). I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it appeared to do nothing. I can successfully log in as newuser, so the problem seems to be something in my $HOME. But
[18:37] <ossare> I don't know what. Any ideas?
[18:37] <fath0m> Hello, Could somebody help me get the gpu drivers on my Dell Inspiron 5570? It has hybridg graphics between i5-8250u and AMD radeon 530.
[18:37] <fath0m> I can't to find any solutions on the internet...
[18:37] <tomreyn> beta4: dkms is a way to build modules. i assume one was built and gets loaded now. can you point me to the documentation you found on how to enable bbswitch_dkms again?
[18:38] <tomreyn> !who | beta4 enjoy your meal. for later
[18:46] <tomreyn> ossare: try to clean ~/.cache
[18:46] <galsoil> hello, can some help?
[18:47] <tomreyn> !ask | galsoil
[18:47] <galsoil> wonder fulll, it works thanks! first time user with ip tables problem
[18:48] <galsoil> exit
[18:48] <tomreyn> ossare: you can always move you old user account out of the way, then copy back directoryies from there one by one. the issue is most likely with either .cache or .config or one of the other 'hidden' directories
[18:50] <johnlage6> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[18:50] <gdibass> That's... disappointing
[18:51] <ryuo> gdibass: pay it no mind. it's part of the spam attack that Freenode is under.
[18:53] <saderror256> johnmark: bad bad bad bot
[18:53] <saderror256> i hope they fix it soon
[18:53] <saderror256> whoops wrong person to ping :P
[18:54] <gdibass> ryuo, is that why I've been getting those ctcp versions from freenode-connect ?
[18:54] <ryuo> gdibass: maybe. no idea.
[18:55] <ryuo> gdibass: identifying with SASL may help.
[18:55] <gdibass> I'm identified
[18:56] <ryuo> gdibass: i'm aware.
[18:59] <der_conno> short question: Shouldn't "http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts" be updated so the LTS systems get the 18.04.1 update?
[19:00] <tomreyn> der_conno: yes, when it's ready.
[19:01] <der_conno> tomreyn: I thought the release rolled out allready?
[19:02] <nortoh> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[19:02] <tomreyn> der_conno: 18.04.1 is released. LTS upgrades aren't supported, yet. it'll be done when it's done, involves testing to allow for a reliable upgrade.
[19:03] <der_conno> tomreyn: ok, thanks^^
[19:21] <beta4> hi tomreyn, I'm back at the pc
[19:22] <FurretUber> Is there a way to upgrade only xfce4-screenshooter on Bionic to the Cosmic version? xfce4-screenshooter has a bug on Bionic that it can't copy large or complex screenshots to clipboard and make applications where the user tried to paste freeze or crash
[19:22] <andaii> I just switched to Ubuntu again (18.04), configured my wacom tablet with xsetwacom, now trying to make it persistent. Is Xorg.conf still a thing? (Also, I appear to be running Wayland and Xorg simultaneously, which one is it?)
[19:23] <Shanmugamp71> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[19:23] <gdibass> jfc
[19:23] <gdibass> they don't stop
[19:24] <HellFire> FurretUber: you could manually download the .deb and install it, assuming there's no incompatibilities with dependencies
[19:25] <Volund> so hey guys, what's up?
[19:25] <beta4> tomreyn, whatever is causing the issue now, it happens pretty early at boot, before I am asked for the password to unlock the encrypted root filesystem
[19:27] <xerf> hi
[19:28] <Volund> so I'mma be reinstalling Ubuntu to replace Windows 10... AGAIN...
[19:30] <tomreyn> beta4: wb. yes, it happens in initrd. what does this return? sudo rgrep bbswitch /etc/mod* 2>&1 | pastebinit
[19:30] <viju> Hi, Whenever I go away from the laptop for a while it shows a black screen with no way to get back to the unlock screen.
[19:30] <viju> I am using 16.04
[19:30] <beta4> trying
[19:30] <viju> This has been happening from past 3-4 days. I must have rebooted 3-4 times in past 1 hour.
[19:31] <viju> logs? Where are the logs for this
[19:32] <tomreyn> viju: are you running xubuntu by chance?
[19:32] <beta4> tomreyn, sudo rgrep bbswitch /etc/mod* 2>&1 turns out empty
[19:33] <tomreyn> beta4: sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)
[19:33] <tomreyn> beta4: then reboot into the same kernel image / version again
[19:34] <beta4_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/551424/how-to-turn-off-nvidia-hybrid-graphics
[19:34] <jayjo> is there a way to disable my machine from sleeping on ubuntu 1804? The Power settings has a switch "automatic suspsend" which is off, but it still sleeps
[19:34] <beta4> this was the guide I followed
[19:34] <beta4> tomreyn, had to boot in recovery mode to get the guide, it was in the browser of the other machine
[19:34] <jayjo> is this a tweak? Also, when I lock my screen with Super + L my machine immediately goes to sleep. That may be a connected issue, but just preventing sleeps on walking away is my main priority
[19:36] <beta4> doing this sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)
[19:36] <tomreyn> beta4: thanks for re-posting the bbswitch guide you followed, i had since found it on the backlog.
[19:36] <tomreyn> beta4: should have told you, sorry
[19:36] <themusicgod1> jayjo: is installing another desktop environment an option?  that's probably not what the actual supported option is going to be but if that was happening to me...i'd be trying kde or xfce or something
[19:37] <beta4> my undo procedure has been to remove all changes to config files, purge bbswitch-dkms and update-initramfs -u
[19:39] <tomreyn> !flavours | themusicgod1
[19:39] <tomreyn> beta4: this time we'Re not updating (-u) but recreating (-c) the nitramfs, hopeing this will make a difference.
[19:41] <phoe2> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[19:41] <tomreyn> themusicgod1: in other words: yes, that's totally an option
[19:41] <wulung> good day to all, anyone with wiki access [wiki.ubuntu.com] ?
[19:42] <beta4> tomreyn sure it did, now it asked for the password
[19:42] <beta4> still booting with module_blacklist=nouveau,nvidia acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[19:42] <tomreyn> beta4: yeay. so make it permanent if you haven't.
[19:43] <tomreyn> i assume you already have, i would not want to have to type this all the time ;)
[19:43] <beta4> not yet, will do now
[19:44] <takekuma> hello
[19:46] <beta4> rebooting to test
[19:47] <theor> Hi. Migrated to 18.04, and my laptop won't wake up from suspend. Linux 4.15.0-29-generic on a i7 Skylake x86_64. What should I do?
[19:48] <jayjo> what piece of software is deciding to go to sleep when I lock my screen?
[19:48] <jayjo> What is making that decision so I can troubleshoot this problem a little better
[19:49] <theor> jayjo: systemd
[19:49] <theor> but I'm not sure where to go from there
[19:50] <Volund> here's hoping that this time when I bring up Ubuntu it doesn't require me to alter my boot options just so my graphics card works again
[19:50] <Volund> here I come 18.04
[19:50] <beta4> tomreyn, permanent changes are permanent, thanks
[19:51] <beta4> let's just hope it doesn't fall apart at the next apt dist-upgrade ;)
[19:51] <Volund> that happened to me too once
[19:52] <takekuma> hellooo
[19:53]  * BikerGuy54 is a happy camper, got 18.04 running..under lubuntu .. some reason ubuntu 18.04 doesnt like older hp systems :(
[19:55] <takekuma> hellooo
[19:55] <takekuma> Exit
[19:55] <takekuma> exit
[20:02] <Volund> Well. here goes nothing.
[20:03] <Ckat19> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[20:03] <Ckat19> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[20:03] <tomreyn> beta4: if you edited /etc/default/grub then it wont fall apart, no
[20:03] <tomreyn> should be fine then
[20:03] <Volund> oh FFS are those spambots EVERYWHERE?
[20:04] <beta4_> tomreyn, yes, edited /etc/default/grub
[20:04] <beta4_> and thanks again!
[20:04] <Volund> okay time to get cracking. see you again soon... hopefully
[20:05] <zenguy-> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[20:06] <tomreyn> beta4_: you're welcome. i think if i was you i'd keep an eye on nvidia driver updates (in ubuntu) and maybe try mainline kernels, too, and surely give nvidia another try by ubuntu 18.04.2 or .3
[20:06] <tomreyn> well .2 should be enough
[20:07] <beta4_> sure I'll test from time to time, sooner or later support will improve
[20:07] <tomreyn> beta4_: and keep an eye on bios updates, too.
[20:12] <viju> tomreyn: yes I am running ubuntu and have xfce/lubuntu
[20:13] <viju> But it froze in ubuntu/unity as well
[20:15] <rooik> Hey, i need a help: with nvidia drivers i get black screen when starting the DM, and in dmesg i get this error: https://goo.gl/z1CzhJ .i have primus setup if it can help to understand my issue
[20:15] <tomreyn> viju: then i guess it's not bug 1615286
[20:17] <Volund> oh my goobiloo
[20:17] <rooik> Anyone can help me? Because i cant even login with those drivers
[20:17] <Volund> so I have this issue where in order to boot, I need to edit the boot options by adding 'nomodeset'
[20:17] <tomreyn> viju: logs are ~/.xsession-errors.log* /var/log/Xorg.*.log  /var/log/syslog and the output generated by dmesg -T
[20:18] <Volund> this issue has existed for over a year and nobody's fixed it yet? @_@
[20:18] <Volund> (caused by having an NViDia card, I believe)
[20:18] <tomreyn> !details | rooik
[20:18] <tomreyn> !ask | Volund
[20:18] <rooik> Tomreyn: excuse me?
[20:19] <tomreyn> no
[20:20] <rooik> Uh?
[20:21] <Shun131> rooik You could write out the error message you see.
[20:21] <stephen875> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[20:22] <rooik> It's not just one line
[20:22] <Shun131> Then the major parts perhaps.
[20:23] <rooik> That he cant load nvidia module
[20:23] <Shun131> OK
[20:23] <rooik> OK
[20:23] <Shun131> Anything about your setup, other configuration could help.
[20:24] <rooik> Primus setup
[20:24] <Shun131> is that a server?
[20:27] <Shun131> Do you run Windows on the same hardware, and it works there?
[20:27] <rooik> ,no its not
[20:27] <rooik> Here is my x config: goo.gl/F9cfTL
[20:27] <Shun131> Don't wanna open a short url, sorry
[20:27] <rooik> Yes i also run windows 7
[20:28] <rooik> Just say you cant want to help me
[20:28] <compdoc> lol
[20:28] <Shun131> Short urls are dangerous
[20:28] <rooik> Without the 'want'
[20:28] <rooik> ...
[20:28] <Flannel> rooik: Rickrolls probably aren't the best way to get help.
[20:29] <Volund> oh holy crap it actually loaded up without needing to modify the grub boot line
[20:29] <rooik> Flannel why me?
[20:30] <rooik> 2 clicks LOL
[20:31] <Shun131> did you check for compatibility with your graphics card?
[20:31] <rooik> Yes
[20:31] <Shun131> Tried another Linux distro just to check?
[20:32] <rooik> No
[20:32] <Shun131> All settings left to defaults, unchanged?
[20:33] <rooik> No, if you could check the link you would see the X config
[20:33] <Flannel> Shun131: Don't bother with him.  Both of the links were rickrolls, he probably doesn't actually need help.
[20:33] <rooik> If you could chevk the link you would see the X config
[20:33] <Shun131> Flannel  Great :)
[20:33] <rooik> Is said
[20:34] <Flannel> rooik: You need to find a better hobby.
[20:34] <Shun131> So nobody who needs help packs their stuff in a short url anyway :)
[20:34] <rooik> ?
[20:34] <Flannel> Shun131: That's a pretty safe assumption
[20:34] <Shun131> thought so
[20:34] <Shun131> thanks
[20:35] <rooik> So, not being able to login is not a problem and i dont need help?
[20:35] <Flannel> Shun131: We had a lot of debate whether the short URLs in the topic were the best plan.  But there's just not that many characters available in topics.
[20:35] <Flannel> rooik: Correct.
[20:36] <Shun131> I trusted your short url :)
[20:36] <rooik> Flannel: so?
[20:36] <Flannel> Shun131: Sure, and we do too, but we didn't want to encourage the behavior.
[20:36] <Shun131> Yes, though that probably didn't come from your using it, it's all over the net, I guess.
[20:37] <Volund> so
[20:38] <Flannel> Shun131: Yeah, but URL Shortening is 100% harmful to the internet.
[20:38] <Shun131> We need safer web browsers :)
[20:38] <Volund> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Installation_without_X_.2F_from_the_console - I look at this, and attempt to sudo apt-get install nvidia-390 (which is what the command lists for me) but...
[20:38] <Shun131> ones that check urls before they can do any harm
[20:38] <Shun131> I agree
[20:38] <Volund> it's saying that there's nothing for that package, it's replaced by libnvidia-gl-390 nvidia-kernel-source-390:i386 nvidia-headless-no-dkms-390:i386 libnvidia-gl-390:i386 nvidia-kernel-source-390 nvidia-headless-no-dkms-390
[20:39] <Volund> what does this MEAN
[20:39] <Volund> How do I install my GTX 980ti drivers?
[20:43] <Volund> oh, had to add a PPA. woops
[20:44] <andirc5089> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[20:44] <andirc5089> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[20:53] <rekt_> Hey, i neel help with ubuntu, basically when i plug an usb it i cant find it in /dev/sd**. Here is my outpit of lsusb: https://goo.gl/t4muBi
[20:54] <granttrec> how can I get locale-gen in a chroot?
[20:55] <ossanez> Hello. Upgraded from 17.10 to latest this morning. Cannot get past the gdm screen on my usual account. Can log in as a new user, so I suppose it's something in my $HOME that's throwing Xorg off. I've alread mv'd .xinitrc and Gnome extensions. It's not those. Any ideas what ths might be?
[20:58] <Shmam> I'm trying to remove nouveau drivers and install the nvidia ones on 18.04 server. I added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but that didn't seem to work. Any ideas?
[21:05] <wfranken> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[21:06] <Shmam> wait what
[21:06] <Flannel> Shmam: It's just spam that's been making the rounds for the past few days.
[21:07] <Shmam> weird
[21:07] <Lantizia> i'm off to bed now... but if anyone here remembers using the ubuntu business desktop remix (based off 12.04) could you drop me a quick PM (you need to be identified with nickserv - due to all the spam going around)... thanks :)
[21:08] <Shmam> so uh anyone know how to actually remove the nouveau drivers?
 so, he wants the win. so we're just gonna get lunch or something, then hes gonna push me to the ground and tap my ass with his foot so he can claim he "kicked my ass" tbh im going along with it becase I dont wanna lose any teeth
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[21:11] <K0HAX29> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[21:12] <ahi2> Shmam, https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-nouveau-nvidia-driver-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[21:12] <Shmam> jeez so much spam
[21:13] <Shmam> ahi2: ty, I'll take a look and hopefully that will work
[21:25] <ubuntu> XD
[21:25] <Stummi11> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[21:26] <Guest78> !14.04
[21:30] <lowkeycoat1> Recommended flavor of ubuntu for usb?
[21:32] <andaii> something keeps resetting my wacom settings. I disabled the gnome settings wacom plugin and it didn't help. I tried configuring it with Xorg, no dice. I added a startup script to run xsetwacom commands manually at login, this works but only for a few miliseconds before something resets it. I can run the script again after login and then it stays that way for the session. What's messing with the settings?
[21:32] <bobphalanx> Security-wise is there something I should do right away once I've installed Ubuntu Server 18.04?
[21:33] <somerset> Question: I want to have the same config, packages, etc. on my laptop as I have on my desktop. Is there something like Firefox Sync but for Ubuntu user accounts? Or is there another/better way to go about this?
[21:33] <bobphalanx> I've done apt update/upgrade, woops..
[21:34] <leftyfb> somerset: ansible. But nothing to keep things in sync. That doesn't sound very safe in fact
[21:34] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: as far as personal settings, you could maybe mount your /home from nfs
[21:34] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: but that would not be good if both were running at the same time
[21:35] <somerset> @leftyfb: yes, you're right about the security part. ideally, i'd only sync up over the local network, not through some 3rd party cloud service.
[21:35] <bobphalanx> hmm, not sure if I understood
[21:35] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: oops, those messages were meant for somerset
[21:36] <leftyfb> somerset: I wasn't talking in means of security, but of conflicts, locking, instability
[21:36] <somerset> oh ok
[21:36] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: as for your security, don't put it accessible on the internet until it's completely locked down
[21:36] <bobphalanx> It's not, just trying out on Virtualbox
[21:37] <leftyfb> bobphalanx: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/security.html.en https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-harden-ubuntu-server-16-04-security-in-five-steps/
[21:37] <bobphalanx> I will check them out, thanks
[21:37] <somerset> leftyfb: hmm. thank you for answering my q. guess I'll just have to re-do everything I did on my Desktop :)
[21:38] <bobphalanx> somerset: while youre at it maybe write down the commands for a script?
[21:38] <leftyfb> somerset: rsync will be good to copy over /home. But nothing to keep them in sync
[21:38] <leftyfb> ansible is great for this sort of thing
[21:38] <xerf> hey
[21:39] <somerset> that's a good idea bobphalanx, and i'll look into ansible, leftyfb, thanks
[21:57] <burzos> Why do I have to mount my flash drive before I can use it?
[21:59] <tomreyn> burzos: how are you using it?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> I'm having some trouble running a VM I created with virt-manager a while ago. I made /var/lib/libvirt/ a symlink to /btrfs_external/libvirt/ so that I could store the VM on my external drive. When I open virt-manager, no virtual machines are listed (but there is also no error message). I expect it's a permissions problem. Any ideas?
[22:00] <burzos> I want to save some files to it.
[22:02] <HellFire> Jordan_U: does `virsh list --all` in a terminal show it?
[22:03] <tomreyn> burzos: you can only save files to a file system. to access a file system, it must be mounted. now whether or not mounting needs to be done manually or can be an automated process, depends on various factors, including your ubuntu release, your desktop environment, your users' ACL group memberships.
[22:05] <burzos> But the file system exists on the USB drive even before I mount it.  What does the mount actually do?
[22:09] <tomreyn> burzos: it makes the file system accessible at an existing position on the existing directory tree
[22:10] <tomreyn> e.g. it's common to mount a file system to /mnt or /mnt/mymountpoint. once this has been done, the contents of this file system will be available at this location
[22:11] <burzos> It requires root, because oWhy do I have to be root in order to do the mount? (thanks for answering)
[22:12] <sogeking99> Hey guys what is the best LaTex editor on Linux?
[22:12] <sogeking99> I need to learn it
[22:12] <ryuo> burzos: root is required for arbitrary mounts that the system has not defined as being permissible for a non-root user to mount.
[22:13] <ryuo> burzos: But, removable media should not require this for most use cases.
[22:13] <burzos> Where does the system define which mounts require privilege?
[22:13] <kk4ewt> sogeking99,  whichever one works for you
[22:14] <wgma> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[22:14] <wgma> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[22:14] <kk4ewt> sogeking99,  try texstudio
[22:14] <kk4ewt> or lyx
[22:14] <ryuo> burzos: it's complicated, but it's basically anything not covered by /etc/fstab or something like udisks.
[22:16] <ryuo> burzos: Removable media is usually mountable as non-root if something like udisks is used.
[22:16] <sogeking99> Thanks kk4ewt
[22:16] <burzos> Ok, thanks for the help.
[22:16] <ryuo> burzos: these get mounted under /media/$USER/
[22:17] <ryuo> burzos: ok. you shouldn't need to do these manual mounts very often.
[22:17] <ryuo> burzos: i only need to use them as a power user. I imagine regular users will almost never need to.
[22:18] <burzos> udisks is privileged process that can mount whatever it wants?
[22:18] <sogeking99> kk4ewt: It says error: dependency not satisfiable libc6 (>= 2.27)
[22:18] <ryuo> burzos: I guess? I never looked at it that closely. I just know it's a framework that allows Linux desktop software to mount removable media as non-root.
[22:33] <metrum> Hello all! Can someone help me? My Software Center isn't working properly, and I don't know how to fix it.
[22:34] <burzos> What is your Software Center doing?
[22:36] <metrum> It opens correctly, but it only show the featured application and the editor's picks. The categories are missing.
[22:36] <DarkMukke29> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[22:37] <jmadero> is there not a PPA for Thunderbird 60?
[22:39] <kk4ewt> anyone with op if you use /mode  +q $~a  that disables spam showing (alos prohibits non-registered from having voice
[22:40] <tomreyn> jmadero: the latest stable release seesm to be Version 52.9.1
[22:40] <jmadero> tomreyn: I'd like to run version 60 which is in beta
[22:40] <jmadero> I'm surprised the beta PPA doesn't have it though
[22:40] <metrum> I don't see any ppa linked with thunderbird.
[22:40] <jmadero> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/thunderbird-next
[22:40] <jmadero> super out of date
[22:40] <acuzio2> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[22:40] <acuzio2> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[22:41] <tigefa> use this link https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0b9/
[22:42] <tomreyn> jmadero: i think there's a flatpak somewhere if you want something packaged instead
[22:44] <jmadero> tomreyn: thanks, I'm running it now - really surprised that the beta PPA is essentially stale
[22:45] <dos000> howdy ! anyone can help me figure how i can turn off the screen on a freshly installed ubuntu 18.04 server ?
[22:45] <dos000> i dont have x installed since its meant to be a server
[22:46] <dos000> and i dont want the screen to stay up o nthis old laptop
[22:52] <tomreyn> dos000: try: setterm -blank 10 -powerdown 15 (blank after 10, power down after 10 + 15 minutes)
[22:52] <tomreyn> dos000: try: setterm --blank 10 --powerdown 15 (blank after 10, power down after 10 + 15 minutes)
[22:52] <tomreyn> ^ typos fixed
[22:59] <Flannel> kk4ewt: +r is more ideal.  But as you said, it makes people have to register.  So it's a constant balancing act.
[23:03] <mbaggs> howdy all
[23:08] <fromBeyond> Hi, I cannot seem to set neovim as the SUDO_EDITOR. If i run 'env SUDO_EDITOR=nvim sudo -e fiename', it still opens it with nano. Also, the environment variable ha been set, for EDITOR and SUDO_EDITOR.
[23:11] <dos000> tomreyn: i dont want to powerdown i just want the screen off
[23:11] <fromBeyond> please not that the beaviour is the same, for any other editor, and that nvim has been added to the path
[23:11] <fromBeyond> note*
[23:11] <dos000> tomreyn: the machine is a laptop and its acting as my git repo
[23:11] <burzos> Are you using visudo?
[23:12] <dos000> `setterm -blank 10 setterm: terminal xterm-256color does not support --blank`
[23:13] <fromBeyond> burzos: how do you mean?
[23:14] <burzos> Set your environment variables, then do `sudo visudo`.
[23:15] <fromBeyond> it is opened by nano
 so, he wants the win. so we're just gonna get lunch or something, then hes gonna push me to the ground and tap my ass with his foot so he can claim he "kicked my ass" tbh im going along with it becase I dont wanna lose any teeth
[23:16] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[23:16] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: set it to "neovim".
[23:17] <fromBeyond> leftyfb: I tried this, but ti is not on the list
[23:17] <bray90820_> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[23:18] <fromBeyond> I see not, I should provide /usr/bin/editor by myself
[23:18] <fromBeyond> see now*
[23:19] <SunTsu29> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[23:19] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: how did you install it?
[23:19] <fromBeyond> leftyfb: what exactly does it mean to "provide a /usr/editor?
[23:20] <fromBeyond> i installed from source i trhink
[23:20] <fromBeyond> from their git
[23:21] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: https://launchpad.net/~neovim-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/stable   # try installing from this PPA
[23:21] <fromBeyond> could it be because i installed to home directory?
[23:21] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: you really shouldn't install things from source. It almost never works out in your favor
[23:22] <fromBeyond> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jx83DtspxC/
[23:22] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: https://launchpad.net/~neovim-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/stable   # try installing from this PPA
[23:22] <fromBeyond> this is how i installed it. I make scripts, so I can reproduce (on th spectrum a bit, yes :) )
[23:22] <fromBeyond> yes, i will
[23:22] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: remove the one installed from source
[23:23] <basic`11> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[23:24] <burzos> fromBeyond: Is this binary in your PATH?
[23:24] <fromBeyond> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jx83DtspxC/
[23:24] <fromBeyond> this is how i installed. On the bottom, I put it in my path
[23:25] <burzos> Then did you dot the zshrc file?
[23:25] <leftyfb> fromBeyond: we know. Undo it. Use the binaries from the PPA
[23:26] <burzos> Also, you probably don't want to use an editor in your home directory for modifying sudoers.
[23:27] <leftyfb> burzos: they are not trying to modify sudoers
[23:27] <leftyfb> burzos: they are trying to set "neovim" as the default editor for root/sudo. I gave already given the proper instructions for doing so
[23:27] <leftyfb> %s/gave/have/
[23:28] <burzos> Ok. The default editor for root/sudo should not live in your home directory.
[23:28] <burzos> Which your instructions would fix.
[23:28] <fromBeyond> burzos: please elaborate, so i will learn
[23:28] <fromBeyond> also, I will follow leftyfb instructions
[23:31] <burzos> Files in /home/fromBeyond are writeable by fromBeyond.  If there is a malicious program on your system running as fromBeyond, now it will be able to modify the editor used by the superuser.  For example the malicious program could replace the editor with a file that reads /etc/shadow and sends it to some remote server.
[23:32] <burzos> This is remedied by using an editor that is located in a directory path only writeable by the root user, for example /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin.
[23:33] <fromBeyond> burzos: I understand. Thank you
[23:33] <chachasmooth16> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[23:40] <fromBeyond> burzos: sorry for another question. Could I, in this situation move the binary from the instalation folder to the bin? Note that i took leftyfb advice, i am asking to learn
[23:42] <tigefa> fromBeyond with sudo make install ?
[23:42] <IntelCore> * Integrated-applet-complete does not work right on Bionic. I'm trying to get todg, the scripter to fix it.
[23:43] <fromBeyond> no, just moving the binary
[23:44] <IntelCore> the applet has worked since 2010, and allows you to access log-off/reset music, volume(pulse audio).. the gnome-control-center changed in Bionic
[23:44] <IntelCore> not many ppl have the applet, granted, but I like it
[23:46] <IntelCore> anyone use a docker with compiz in bionic?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> HellFire: No, no virtual machines are listed there either.
[23:49] <burzos> fromBeyond: Yes, generally `sudo make install` will do this for you.
[23:49] <burzos> The downside is that Ubuntu package manager doesn't know about the installation.
[23:50] <burzos> So it won't be able to tell you about updates or help with uninstallation.
[23:51] <aqd> how am I supposed to broadcast on local network so that other computers can have my MAC and IP in their ARP table?
[23:52] <aqd> ping ....255 doesn't work!
[23:52] <fromBeyond> burzos: sorry, I got lost. Lets say I want to install from source, and I have to manually specify an install directory. What should I specify in thic case? (usr/bin/nameOfProgam ?)
[23:52] <burzos> fromBeyond: It depends on the application and how you're going to use it.
[23:53] <burzos> fromBeyond: If you are just going to use the application as an unprivileged user, it's fine to stick it into /home/fromBeyond/bin.
[23:53] <CarlFK> fromBeyond: what is the app?
[23:53] <burzos> If privileged users are going to use it, it should go into /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin
[23:54] <burzos> The other point is how to go about moving the binary to the place you decide to put it at.
[23:54] <fromBeyond> burzos: why is there a comma? is it either, or both?
[23:54] <burzos> For programs using Makefiles (and usually the GNU build system), you can use `sudo make install` usually.
[23:54] <fromBeyond> in other words, does usr/bin contain only binaries or entire instalation folder
[23:54] <burzos> it's XOR
[23:54] <burzos> Only binaries, look at it.
[23:55] <tigefa> use linuxbrew for home user, learn it on docker. fromBeyond
[23:55] <fromBeyond> yes, this is why i asked. But where should i put th einstalation directory than?
[23:55] <tomreyn> aqd: ping -b broadcasts
[23:55] <burzos> There really isn't an "installation directory".
[23:55] <CarlFK> I like using ~/bin and putting a link to the binary.  (and hope it doesn't neeed libs and stuff)
[23:56] <fromBeyond> burzos: aaa, ok... so its only the binary01
[23:56] <burzos> When you build the software it creates 1 or more artificates: binaries, shared libraries, and config files usually.
[23:56] <fromBeyond> burzos: for some reason, I had the wrong idea, that there is also a directory where the things that the binary uses are
[23:56] <CarlFK> fromBeyond: what is the app?
[23:57] <fromBeyond> and was confused if this also has to go into the /ur/bin
[23:57] <fromBeyond> CarlFK: I am asking questions, because I am a novice. No real application is to eb installed, I installed from the PPA
[23:57] <burzos> So, /usr/lib and /etc are places where applications have auxiliary files.
[23:59] <CarlFK> fromBeyond:  I would avoid all this until you have something that needs it, and then find out what to do
[23:59] <fromBeyond> CarlFK: well, I installed neovim from source, this is how this discussion got started.


[00:55] <irctc666> anyone about who could give me some advice about the NIC hardware requirements prior to installing 11.1
[00:55] <alkisg> What do you mean nic hardware requirements? Most NICs work fine with linux...
[00:57] <irctc666> I intend to have two nics in situ prior to carrying out an install - can 11.10 cope with this arrangement ?
[00:57] <alkisg> Sure
[00:59] <irctc666> O.K. and one of these NIC,s could be connected to a router and the Internet with the other going to a switch and the clients?
[01:00] <alkisg> That's the recommented setup, yup
[01:01] <irctc666> should I set he IP of the router to a particular address ?
[01:02] <alkisg> No, the internet-facing NIC uses dhcp by default. Just *don't* use the 192.168.0.x subnet.
[01:04] <alkisg> (as that's used by the ltsp clients, and it would complicate things)
[01:07] <irctc666> sorry i don't understand . Is the Internet facing NIc getting its address via DHCP from the router?
[01:07] <alkisg> Yes
[01:08] <alkisg> So your router ip address doesn't matter, leave it as it is
[01:09] <irctc666> Ah, I see, and can I set this to any range of ip addresses ?
[01:16] <irctc666> presumably the DHCP on the router could give out <IP_ADDRESS> for example and as you said eearlier which I now appreciate is not on the 192.168.0. x subnet which prsumably it is using for the clients
[01:22] <irctc666> Thanks alkisg, I shall try this tomorrow. Much obliged to you. Dave
[12:01] <highvoltage> stgraber: know who to poke about http://www.edubuntu.org/ ?
[12:01]  * highvoltage files a bug on RT so long
[14:23] <stgraber> highvoltage: oh, fun...
[14:24] <ogra_> well, at least it works :)
[14:24] <stgraber> highvoltage: poked IS
[14:25] <stgraber> highvoltage: found a potential problem, Ng from IS is looking now
[14:37] <highvoltage> stgraber: yeah it's been fine for a few hours now, at least
[14:37] <highvoltage> ah www. is still broken (I guess I should've checked that too)
[14:42] <stgraber> highvoltage: all fixed here
[14:43] <stgraber> highvoltage: we've been moved back to "our" IP on humboldt instead of the generic one we had before
[14:43] <stgraber> (edubuntu has a separate address as we have a SSL certificate)
[15:00] <highvoltage> ah


[18:14] <ubot2> pleia2 called the ops in #ubuntu-beginners ()
[18:14] <pleia2> being trolled :\
[18:14] <Pici> :|
[18:15] <Pici> pleia2: By whom may I ask?
[18:15] <pleia2> groos and maverickx
[18:16] <jpds> trollers going to troll.
[18:16] <IdleOne> Pici: I suspect d1gital to be groos also
[18:24] <Pici> Was groos kickbanned?
[18:24] <IdleOne> not from -beginners
[18:24] <pleia2> no, still no ops around
[18:25] <pleia2> maverickx left on their own
[18:26] <arand> groos is currently in #ubuntu ... with an "interesting" problem considering the information here...
[18:26] <pleia2> ok, an op is around now
[18:28] <pleia2> he came in with a made up non-sensical "bin" problem, then had a buddy join them to encourage him on
[18:28] <pleia2> groos has been removed from -beginners
[18:28] <Pici> and now from #ubuntu too
[18:28] <m4v> IdleOne's suspicion is quite sound.
[18:30] <IdleOne> I have spidey sense when it comes to trolls
[18:31] <m4v> or a working stalker ;)
[18:31] <IdleOne> nope no stalker
[18:37] <m4v> kk :p
[18:37] <IdleOne> m4v: unless you have written a xchat version
[18:37] <IdleOne> that would be helpful
[18:38] <IdleOne> but I don't want to take you away from ubottu coding so no worries
[18:38] <m4v> no change, I don't use xchat :P
[18:39] <m4v> and at this moment u-es is sucking most of my time anyway.
[18:41] <ubot2> cprofitt called the ops in #ubuntu-beginners ()
[21:44] <the_eye_> Asking for cloak, https://launchpad.net/~ntoulasd
[21:46] <IdleOne> elky topyli tsimpson jussi ^^
[22:21] <the_eye_> anyone ?
[22:21] <Pici> elky: I saw activity from you elsewhere, could you take a look ^
[22:22] <elky> Pici, i'm just baout to head out the door. i can't wait around to do the launchpaddy bit, sorry
[22:23] <Pici> elky: kk
[22:23] <rww> elky: you aren't permanently plugged in to the Internet? The horror!
[22:32] <topyli> the_eye_: alright, looking good there
[22:33] <Pici> topyli: thanks
[22:33] <topyli> you want to be cloaked as ubuntu/member/the_eye_ or dimitris? would be nice if they matched :)
[22:34] <Pici> topyli: I don't think you can put underscores in cloaks. (freenode doesn't do it for unaffiliated ones).
[22:34] <topyli> sounds sane
[22:35] <Pici> Something about allowed DNS characters.
[22:35] <the_eye_> as ubuntu/member/the_eye_
[22:36] <topyli> the_eye_: see above, it might not work after all
[22:36] <the_eye_> Oh!, as dimitris then
[22:37] <the_eye_> or ntoulasd better as my lauchpad
[22:38] <topyli> that would be great, less guessing
[22:39] <m4v> how many nicks you have
[22:39] <Pici> My launchpad, irc and wiki names are all different :x
[22:40] <rww> my LP and IRC names are the same, and I don't have a wiki one any more ;P
 ok, ntoulasd
[22:41] <topyli> there you go, done
[22:42] <the_eye_> thanks
[22:43] <topyli> cheers :)


[00:33] <npm> Robbilie: http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-gnome-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome ?
[07:09]  * snwh is back (gone 09:32:48)
[12:31] <andry> hi, the gdm init script is buggy
[12:32] <andry> unused fi on line 79
[15:06] <jayceVV> hello
[19:07] <ojojojo> hihi
[19:22] <Ponch0> hey room, I've ran out google search terms, haha, i'm trying to install geany testing, and i'm going these errors: ./configure: line 5937: syntax error near unexpected token `GTK,'
[19:22] <Ponch0> and ./configure: line 5937: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(GTK, $gtk_modules $gtk_modules_private)'
[19:23] <Ponch0> as far as i can tell i'm all up to date on that, gtk_modules_private led me to gobject introspection which I'm curren ton  I don't know what else to do
[19:28] <Robbilie> heyho can anybody tell me wether it is possible to use the full set of gnome 3.10 and all of its apps with the latest ubuntu gnome release (stable), if not, what would be an alternative? :)
[19:28] <Ponch0> hehe I think I just figured it out.
[19:29] <Robbilie> ?
[19:31] <Ponch0> oh sorry I have an issue with something else.
[19:41] <Ponch0> I seem to have some other issues: Please add the files
[19:41] <Ponch0>   codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
[19:41] <Ponch0>   progtest.m4
[21:34] <bjsnider> darkxst, so what's the potential borkage if i add the staging ppa in saucy?
[22:28] <phillw> darkxst, I've asked about http://ubuntugnome.org/ and have a person who will help. It does need a rather major overhaul which is well out of knowledge. It's back in your court as to how to progress.
[23:38] <phillw> darkxst, front page has been edited. sorry it is not a full job; but it was the best I could do with the instructions given! http://ubuntugnome.org/


[12:39] <Brainstorm> Updates for Bangladesh: +268 cases (now 1.6 million), +4 deaths (now 28060), +17072 tests (now 11.4 million) since 22 hours ago


[01:34] <Sveinung> Hello. I have found a bug that is fixed (by upstream, could not find upstream report) in Intrepid. It is currently marked new. Should I change its status, and in that case to what?
[01:40] <hggdh> Sveinung, did you confirm current Intrepid version does not have the bug?
[01:41] <Sveinung> yes
[01:41] <hggdh> can you find a reference to what upstream fix solved it?
[01:42] <hggdh> if you can, add it in as a comment, and state it is fixed for Intrepid; mark it fix released
[01:42] <hggdh> Sveinung, if you cannot mark it fix released, ask here for someone with the necessary access to do it
[01:43] <Sveinung> ok, thanks
[01:43] <Sveinung> reference as in bugnumber?
[01:43] <greg-g> Sveinung: upstream bug report link or changelog entry
[01:43] <hggdh> yes, if you can find it. Otherwise, state it has been solved on unknown revision
[01:44] <greg-g> right
[01:44] <hggdh> Sveinung, BTW, thanks for helping
[01:45] <Sveinung> you're welcome
[01:47] <Sveinung> hggdh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shared-mime-info/+bug/204374 is this correct?
[01:49] <hggdh> Sveinung, correct. The only other thing that could be added is what version on Intrepid added the fix, but that is it, otherwise. Thank you for your help.
[01:49] <Sveinung> thank you for helping me, too :)
[01:50] <hggdh> :-) we are always glad to help, and even gladder to be helped ;-)
[03:14] <bcurtiswx> whats the bug rss feed address? i can't find it :-X
[03:32] <andresmujica> hey guys what's up
[03:33] <andresmujica> i'm trying to consolidate all the mime-share-info bugs related to office 2007 and the mime types and icons.
[03:33] <andresmujica> i thought that there were a lot of them but are a few really.
[03:33] <andresmujica> but i've got a doubt
[03:34] <andresmujica> should i consolidate the mime icon and the mime type bugs in one?  also the problem is fix released in one of the bugs but int
[03:37] <andresmujica> also about the icons
[03:37] <andresmujica> which would be the right package? human-icon-theme or gnome-icon-theme...
[05:41] <dholbach> good morning
[07:00] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: good morning. The bug jam happened a couple of weeks late. But it happened and we had fun! :-)
[07:01] <dholbach> tuxmaniac: I think we should have bug jams all around the world all the time
[07:01] <dholbach> and then concentrated global bug jams like twice a year
[07:01] <dholbach> what do you think?
[07:02] <tuxmaniac> dholbach: hehe I was just typing something similar :-)
[07:02] <dholbach> great :-)
[07:04] <tuxmaniac> actually such Local bug jams will enable the new folks to get used to 5-a-day, LP and other basics of triaging. The jams wouldnt be effective with the number of bugs triaged. But atleast we are increasing the contributor base who can come rally good later on during the global bug jams.
[07:04] <dholbach> absolutely
[07:05] <dholbach> that's why I'm going to try to set up regular jams in Berlin :)
[07:06] <tuxmaniac> I found from the GBJ sessions we had online, that most of them want to do "something" and they are still unclear of the fact that even if they are not so thorough with the Ubuntu code base (which ofcourse no one is ;-)) they can take part. So that took most of the time in letting them know how one can contribute still by reproducing the "NEW" bugs and stuff
[07:07] <dholbach> absolutely, it's the most common thing I hear... "but I'm not a developer"
[07:52] <elmargol> i have bug #246081 any suggestions
[07:54] <techno_freak> elmargol, shift key not working as in key combinations? if so, which key combinations and/or for what action?
[07:54] <elmargol> techno_freak, I can write big letters...
[07:54] <elmargol> ABC or ?:;
[07:55] <techno_freak> hmm
[07:55] <elmargol> can not
[09:19] <dholbach> bdrung: I'm very happy with the CSS changes - it looks just great - the only thing that's broken is the import of scripts.xhtml in the handler
[09:19] <dholbach> and I have no idea what's going wrong there
[09:23] <dholbach> bdrung: also thanks for adding the anchors
[09:56] <bdrung> dholbach: the import error is due a missing patch in sys.path. have a look at http://www.modpython.org/live/current/doc-html/pyapi-apmeth.html . i tried to use apache.import_module to fix it. to test i setup an apache, but my apache config does not work correctly. so i could not test it.
[09:57] <dholbach> bdrung: I'll add a doc explaining how to set it up
[09:57]  * dholbach has been very lazy about that
[09:57]  * bdrung is tired.
[09:59] <bdrung> dholbach: i have set it up according to the ubuntuusers wiki. the script crashes with "ImportError: No module named handler"
[10:00] <dholbach> hang on
[10:09] <dholbach> bdrung: check out if the guide you followed was similar to http://daniel.holba.ch/harvest/doc
[10:37] <bdrung> dholbach: using your doc works
[10:38] <dholbach> bdrung: great
[10:38] <dholbach> I'll take a break now - bbl
[10:38] <bdrung> bbl?
[10:38] <dholbach> be back later
[10:38] <bdrung> ok
[10:38] <dholbach> use wtf (bsdgames package) :))
[10:49] <bdrung> dholbach: i have a fix for the import error :D
[11:06] <Ampelbein> hi! regarding bug #203574 - it is status fix released, but according to changelog the fix was reverted. so i think "confirmed" is the correct status to set?
[11:12] <bdrung> dholbach: html does not allow you to put a list into a paragraph
[11:44] <bdrung> wow, i have worked on 250 bug since 2008-06-16
[12:10] <Ampelbein> bdrung: you can make that a +1 if you would please set bug 203574 to triaged (if you agree with my opinion) ;-)
[12:12] <bdrung> Ampelbein: done. there were a fix, so it is triaged.
[12:13] <Ampelbein> thanks.
[12:13] <bdrung> you're welcome
[13:11] <Ampelbein> Hi! Could some member of bug-control please check on bug #249073 ? I think it could be set to triaged/importance medium.
[13:14] <james_w> Ampelbein: you have applied haven't you?
[13:14] <Ampelbein> james_w: yes i did.
[13:14] <james_w> good
[13:15] <james_w> it's feature freeze this week, so I'm busy stuffing the last broken things in to Intrepid, but I'll review your application after that if you haven't been approved by then
[13:17] <Ampelbein> thank you. no haste needed, as long as i can report bugs here in channel and request the changes ;-)
[13:26] <bdrung> dholbach: i will notify you if i am ready with harvest
[13:27] <dholbach> bdrung: thanks!
[13:27] <bdrung> dholbach: currently i am tweaking the design
[13:27] <dholbach> nice
[13:28] <bdrung> more fighting than tweaking ;)
[13:46] <bdrung> dholbach: finished
[13:46] <bdrung> grab revision 107
[13:46] <dholbach> bdrung: will check it ou in a bit, dealing with some other stuff right now - thanks a lot
[13:46] <bdrung> you're welcome
[13:47] <bdrung> dholbach: on my local installation the buttons "mark reviewed" have no effects
[13:47] <bdrung> is it a configuration thing?
[13:48] <dholbach> bdrung: it shouldn't
[13:48] <dholbach> as long as the handler works that should work as well
[13:48] <bdrung> can you then have a look at then handler when you review it?
[13:49] <dholbach> will do
[14:06] <bdrung> dholbach: how does "mark reviewed" work? i have branched your version and tested with my local server and it does not work too.
[14:15] <bddebian> Boo
[14:16] <pedro_> buu
[14:16] <bddebian> :)
[14:16] <jpds> moo.
[14:33] <bdrung> foo
[16:24] <bdmurray> thekorn: your greasemonkey script looks neat
[16:24] <bdmurray> thanks for adding the screenshot!
[16:25] <thekorn> bdmurray, you are very fast :)
[16:26] <bdmurray> thekorn: the karma suffix bit doesn't get added to the new comments though it seems, is that right?
[16:26] <thekorn> i think it just depends on the order the gm scripts are loaded
[16:27] <bdmurray> thekorn: probably
[16:27] <thekorn> but I'm not totaly sure
[16:28] <bdmurray> thekorn: have you looked at bug 259860 at all?
[16:29] <thekorn> damn, you commented on it, I somehow missed it,
[16:29] <thekorn> looking at it *now*
[16:29] <bdmurray> I think I've found the problem now, I'm just uncertain how to fix it.
[16:30] <thekorn> wow, my gmail moves mails from you to spam
[16:31]  * bdmurray isn't sure what to say
[16:31] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: you bad spammer, you :)
[16:34] <thekorn> ok, with the new hidden field it is easy to fix
[16:34] <bdmurray> thekorn: okay, which part of html_bug.py needs to change?
[16:35] <thekorn> I'm on it, it is line 811
[16:35] <thekorn> 810 I mean
[16:37] <bdmurray> Okay, that's where I was
[16:38] <thekorn> we need to change "" into "RE: ..."
[16:38] <bdmurray> I've the xpath for that too
[16:38] <thekorn> where ... is some string idealy the subject of the bugreport,
[16:38] <bdmurray> xpathEval('//input[@name="field.subject"]')[0].prop('value')
[16:39] <bdmurray> that'll use the value that the html submission method would use anyway
[16:49] <thekorn> bdmurray, this should fix it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40693/
[16:51] <bdrung> dholbach: ping
[16:51] <thekorn> unfortunatly there is no other way to get the summary of the bug to the comment
[16:52] <dholbach> bdrung: pong
[16:52] <bdrung> lets play table tennis. *joke*
[16:52] <thekorn> hey dholbach
[16:52] <bdrung> dholbach: can you release the scripts for generating 5-a-day-stats? i want to play with it.
[16:53] <dholbach> hiya thekorn
[16:53] <bdmurray> thekorn: okay, I'll test it some today and merge it
[16:53] <thekorn> cool, thanks
[16:53] <bdmurray> thekorn: can you push your bzr branch of lp-gm-scripts again, with the script this time? :)
[16:54] <dholbach> bdrung: not right now, I need to look a bit into the code myself before I 'release' it :)
[16:54] <thekorn> argh, sure
[16:54] <dholbach> I'm quite busy right now, sorry bdrung
[16:54]  * thekorn needs bzr auto-commit
[16:54] <thekorn> auto-add even
[16:56] <thekorn> bdmurray, pushed
[17:08] <bdmurray> thekorn: the gm script seems confused about bug 150058
[17:09] <thekorn> bdmurray, sorry, what exactly is wrong there?
[17:09] <bdmurray> bryce invalidated the xserver-xorg-driver-ati task, not me
[17:10] <thekorn> hmm
[17:10] <bdmurray> they actually happened on different days too
[17:10] <thekorn> are you using edge.lp.net?
[17:11] <bdmurray> no
[17:11] <thekorn> ok, this might be the difference, maybe
[17:11] <thekorn> let me try it on stable too
[17:12] <thekorn> bdmurray, you mean the entry on 20 aug 2008?
[17:13] <thekorn> it's bryce there for me, on both, edge and stable
[17:13] <bdmurray> hmm, weird. that entry is merged into the one on the 15th for me
[17:16] <bdmurray> I've disabled all my other gm scripts and it is the same
[17:18] <thekorn> this is really weird!
[17:18] <thekorn> maybe I did not get the handling of times/dates regarding different timezones right
[17:20] <bdmurray> the installed one and the bzr one are the same?
[17:21] <thekorn> they should be, only the name is different because I did not understand how the naming is done by greasemonkey
[17:22] <thekorn> argh, thekorn: please write more readable and understandable code, thx
[17:26] <bdmurray> heh
[17:26] <thekorn> bdmurray, sorry I don't unerstand right now how this both entries could be merged into one
[17:29] <bdmurray> thekorn: okay, I'll just comment in that bug you submitted and add a screenshot
[17:29] <thekorn> ok, thanks this would help
[17:29] <bdmurray> and I'll take a peek if I get a chance
[17:31] <CarlF1> I got "gvfsd-trash crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()"  app crash report thing kicked in and brought up launchpad and found #254479 - my choices are "subscribe to this bug" or "No, I'd like to report a new bug"
[17:32] <CarlF1> bug #254479
[17:32] <CarlF1> guessing 'subscribe' won't upload the crash report stuff, so I want 'report new bug' right?
[17:33] <bdmurray> CarlF1: Yours is probably a duplicate of that one though
[17:33] <CarlF1> bdmurray: no probably about it :)
[17:34] <bdmurray> CarlF1: in that case having a second crash report about the bug isn't particularly useful
[17:36] <CarlF1> bdmurray: so if I see the same summary, i should just close the browser and forget about it?
[17:36] <bdmurray> CarlF1: and looking at bug 254479 it looks very complete
[17:36] <CarlF1> or is there any value to a bunch of "me too"
[17:37] <bdmurray> CarlF1: No, it's possible information is missing from the bug report like the exacts steps to recreate the bug or more details.  In which case adding that information is quite helpful.
[17:39] <CarlF1> whoops - I got "gvfsd-trash crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_prepare()" which isn't on the list
[17:39] <CarlF1> _prepare distracted me...
[17:39] <bdmurray> But 'me too's generally aren't helpful
[17:39] <CarlF1> didn't think so.
[19:49] <bdmurray> james_w: Did you read Swofford's other book?
[19:49] <james_w> bdmurray: Jarhead?
[19:49] <bdmurray> james_w: right
[19:50] <james_w> bdmurray: yeah, I thought it was great
[19:50] <bdmurray> james_w: okay, I'll skip Exit A then ;)
[19:51] <james_w> it's not bad, there's just many, many better books out there, so it's not worth the time
[19:57] <sbeattie> bdmurray: didn't like jarhead? :-)
[19:58] <bdmurray> sbeattie: No, I liked Jarhead a lot!  It's just that if Exit A isn't as good as it, I'll pass.
[20:00] <sbeattie> Ah, cool, I liked Jarhead, too, but I'd heard griping about it from other ex-military types.
[20:01] <bdmurray> sbeattie: Jeez, thanks for reminding me.  I'm still agitated (it seems) by what somebody wrote about the book and Swofford.
[20:02] <sbeattie> doh! Sorry.
[20:03] <bdmurray> it's alright, as long I don't try find that review...
[22:03] <hggdh> bdmurray, where can I find any explanation on Malone's usage of tags?
[22:04] <bdmurray> hggdh: I don't think they have a list like we do, what are you interested in?
[22:06] <hggdh> of old a bug would list all tags on a side window; I would like to check all tags, to see if those I am interested on are in use already or not
[22:06] <hggdh> for example, OneTimeOnly
[22:07] <bdmurray> hggdh: You want to find out all the tags every used for malone bug reports, is that correct?
[22:07] <bdmurray> s/every/ever/
[22:08] <hggdh> correct
[22:10] <bdmurray> hggdh: I think you get that at https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone
[22:11] <hggdh> darn! should have thought of that :-( tahnk you, bdmurray
[22:11] <bdmurray> there's also a greasemonkey script that sorts them by quantity of times used and allows filtering ....
[22:12] <hggdh> and it is where? This would probably help
[22:13] <bdmurray> pardon the messy url
[22:13] <bdmurray> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Egm-dev-launchpad/launchpad-gm-scripts/master/annotate/45?file_id=lp_hide_tags.user.js-20080721195143-hbctm6414a1dt69y-1
[22:13] <bdmurray> It'll show a max of 15 tags
[22:15] <hggdh> good enough, and I can adapt it if I need (and I guess I will ;-)
[22:15] <bdmurray> but it is all tweakable
[22:57] <qwerty6523> hello
[22:57] <nhandler> Hi qwerty6523
[22:57] <bdrung> hi qwerty6523
[23:17] <Ampelbein> hi! could some member of bug-control please have a look at bug #258826 ? I think it could be set to status triaged? Regarding importance i would put it as medium since the fix/workaround is nothing an average-user could figure out on his own.
[23:35] <hggdh> Ampelbein, done
[23:35] <Ampelbein> thx
[23:46] <andre___> ...has amaranth (alacarte maintainer) died or is he just unresponsive?
[23:47] <james_w> he's busy these days I believe


[12:45] <floogy> gedit does not show recent opened files on ubuntu 16.04.3 I had formerly no zeitgeist installed, but installed it now. The issue didnt go away. I got such messages on zeitgeist restart:
[12:45] <floogy>  ** (zeitgeist-datahub:25610): WARNING **: zeitgeist-datahub.vala:229: Unable to get name "org.gnome.zeitgeist.datahub" on the bus!
[12:45] <floogy> I also tried zeitgeist-daemon --quit && rm -rvf ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/fts.index/ && zeitgeist-daemon --replace
[12:46] <floogy> I'm currebntly running kde plasma, maybe that is the culprit?


[11:26] <necktwi> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-x/vulkan/ubuntu zesty Release' does not have a Release file.
[12:25] <tjaalton> necktwi: read the description
[14:12] <necktwi> @tjaalton no packages for zest release?
[14:14] <necktwi> yeah i should have read it in first but its nice meeting you all!
[14:15] <tjaalton> there are no packages for any release
[14:15] <tjaalton> I'll just purge the ppa
[14:15] <tjaalton> done