[17:57] <snkcld> would i just rerun the same command?
[17:58] <Swierczewski_> i sent a friend my bootlog and he says that the startup problem is with the sound and graphics card but it's a bit beyond him
[18:00] <Dinosaurio> Has anybody tried canonical's kernel live patching?
[18:01] <parlas> How do I determine what partition is what? http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png
[18:01] <parlas> I have Xubuntu and Elementary installed...Elementary was first and I never use it.
[18:02] <EriC^^> parlas: it looks like xubuntu
[18:02] <EriC^^> it says its mounted at "/" are you in the xubuntu install?
[18:02] <inra> ok, I think it is mvi format
[18:02] <ioria> parlas, maybe sudo os-prober     can tell you
[18:02] <parlas> Eirc yes I am in Xubuntu
[18:02] <inra> how can I download a video of mvi format from a web page?
[18:02] <parlas> does that mean sda6 is Xubuntu?
[18:03] <EriC^^> parlas: yeah
[18:03] <aot> hi, how could i make sure my perl program is kept running "on the backgorund" in ubuntu?
[18:03] <aot> even after crashed it would be started automatically
[18:03] <parlas> Eric so what is sda2? Why would Xubuntu be under it?
[18:04] <EriC^^> parlas: sda2 is an extended partition, it's like a container for other partitions
[18:04] <ioria> parlas, it's an extended, your disk has 2 partitions: 1 primary, 1 logical
[18:04] <parlas> ioria: it only output sda1 as Elementary but none of the other partitions. Is there a different command to see all partitions?
[18:04] <parlas> ioria: I don't know the difference. I jsut chose default installer settings.
[18:04] <Jordan_U> inra: It depends on how that site decides to organize their content. There is no universal answer. There's not even really even a set of common patterns.
[18:05] <ioria> parlas, sudo parted -l   but it does not say you about OS installed
[18:05] <EriC^^> parlas: sudo parted -l
[18:05] <parlas> Yeah parted l just repeated what the gparted screenshot says
[18:05] <parlas> parted -l sorry
[18:05] <EriC^^> parlas: what partitions do you mean?
[18:05] <ioria> parlas, well, it's good because (if you use msdos PT) you can make anothe 2 partitions
[18:05] <uebera||> Dinosaurio: I installed it, but it seems like they still need to implement a feature or two: https://twitter.com/m_ueberall/status/789782350729252865
[18:05] <Jordan_U> parlas: Please run Boot Info Scrip which will clearly tell you what OS is on each partition.
[18:06] <parlas> http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png shows my drive..."parted -l" just put this in terminal....no more info
[18:06] <ioria> parlas, ^ Jordan_U
[18:06] <parlas> How do I remove Elementary and have Xubuntu as primary install without ruining things?
[18:06] <Dinosaurio> uebera||: Heh, ty
[18:06] <parlas> ok looking at how to run that script...not good at this
[18:08] <EriC^^> parlas: why do you think there are other partitions?
[18:08] <EriC^^> how big is the disk?
[18:09] <parlas> 250gb...I think there are other partitions because I can see them on gparted
[18:09] <EriC^^> the boot info script is a little redundant right now
[18:09] <EriC^^> parlas: gparted shows 3, sda1 and sda6 and swap
[18:09] <parlas> cant seem to run bootinfo...it says "command not found" when I follow the directions above
[18:10] <parlas> I downloaded it and extracted into Downloads as per instructions
[18:10] <EriC^^> what are the partitions for?
[18:10] <parlas> ok didn't see you say it was redundant...sorry
[18:11] <parlas> EriC^^: I installed Elemetary...default settings. I then installed Xubuntu...default settings. I didn't manually create any partitions
[18:11] <parlas> all is as the installers made it default
[18:11] <mikubuntu_> why would a brand new lexar usb be showing 4 mb used?
[18:11] <EriC^^> parlas: ok, so what are the partitions you are referring to?
[18:11] <budz> hey guys I am totally new to linux and ubuntu. I was planning to install 16.04 a while ago but I kept putting it off and now I am seeing 16.10 is up. i thought the new version comes out every 2 years?
[18:11] <parlas> http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png
[18:12] <mikubuntu_> and when i first put it in the box -- i got an error saying read-only something
[18:12] <mikubuntu_> that's never happened before with a new stick
[18:12] <lordcirth_> budz, releases come out every 6 mo, every 2 years is a Long Term Support release.
[18:12] <BluesKaj> budz, you're thinking of LTS
[18:12] <EriC^^> parlas: those are sda1 elementary, sda2 the extended partition that contains sda6 xubuntu and sda5 swap
[18:12] <BluesKaj> !LTS
[18:13] <budz> lordcirth_: so do i now download and install 16.10? i had 16.04 loaded on a flash drive already
[18:13] <parlas> EriC^^: so why is Elementary all its own in sda1 but Xubuntu is nested under sda 2 along with swap?
[18:13] <budz> BluesKaj: so should i now use 16.10?
[18:13] <parlas> is that just how the installer chose or is there some reason?
[18:13] <ikonia> parlas: show us your partition table please
[18:13] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: hows it going now ?
[18:14] <lordcirth_> budz, up to you.  Do you want the latest all the time, updating every 6mo, or do you want to install and leave it alone for 4 years?
[18:14] <parlas> ikonia how? I have this http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png
[18:14] <parlas> i didnt consciously choose this arrangement...it was installer defaults
[18:14] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: all data saved on the stick, now i have a new stick trying to get the .iso on it, but when i first plugged it in it said read-only
[18:14] <budz> lordcirth_: i would prefer to have the latest all the time. but since i am a beginner would you suggest 16.04?
[18:14] <EriC^^> parlas: elementary is on a primary partition, there always has to be 1 primary partition, (you can have 4 in total) then the installer created an extended one and put xubuntu and swap in it
[18:15] <BluesKaj> budz, there' isn't alot of difference between 16.04 and 16.10 yet ...16.04 being LTS is more stable atm ...try it out for a while and then decide
[18:15] <budz> lordcirth_: i also don't understand the difference entirely. what is different if i update every 6 months compared to every two years?
[18:15] <ioria> parlas, it's not bad, the bad is that now you want get rid of Elementary ... :þ
[18:15] <budz> BluesKaj: okay so as a beginner is it better to install 16.04?
[18:15] <EriC^^> parlas: extended is a sort of trick to get more partitions on the hdd, you can have 4 primaries or 3 primaries (or at least 1), and extended that contains many partitions
[18:15] <aot> is systemd default option in 14.04 and 12.04?
[18:15] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i just 'cleaned' it with gparted, and need to know what kind of partition to set up for the .iso, and ONE question, is this .iso able to run live? (lub 16.04 64bit)?
[18:16] <lordcirth_> budz, well, the whole point of LTS is that you can install it, and just leave it with only minor updates, so nothing really changes.  for example companies almost always run LTS.
[18:16] <parlas> So since I want to reclaim sda1 (elementary) space and use only Xubuntu can I do this without reinstalling?
[18:16] <parlas> since elementary is the primary partitions?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> budz, yes, that's my opinion, others may differ  :-)
[18:17] <EriC^^> parlas: yeah you can delete lubuntu and move xubuntu to the start and extend it
[18:17] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i'm a little nervous about doing the install. the reason i hadn't done any updates to this box in so long is that when i did updates several months ago to my other laptop, it bricked, and i haven't had time to work on it (oh, ya -- that's coming after election day)
[18:17] <parlas> lubuntu?
[18:17] <EriC^^> parlas: sorry i meant elementary
[18:17] <EriC^^> :D
[18:17] <budz> lordcirth_: okay i see. so i should probably just 16.04. but just to be clear, there will be 17.04, 17.10, and then 18.04 will be the next LTS?
[18:17] <parlas> How do I do that? And what risk for me to break everything?
[18:17] <lordcirth_> budz, yeah
[18:18] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so i'm really really nervous about it. don't have another functioning pc at all.
[18:18] <budz> thanks BluesKaj lordcirth_
[18:18] <EriC^^> parlas: there's always a risk, how you do it is delete the elementary one first then try to move xubuntu (right click on it and choose move) and put the start of the disk
[18:18] <parlas> ioria: you said it's a problem to remove Elementary...what is problem?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> budz, enjoy linux and ubuntru -)
[18:19] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: do i need to format at all to put the .iso on the new stick?
[18:19] <parlas> EriC^^: But deleting sda1 means deleting primary partition right? does sda2 somehow become primary automatically?
[18:19] <EriC^^> parlas: yeah that's true, i have no idea how gparted would handle that stuff, maybe if you move it it will fix stuff
[18:19] <ioria> parlas,  it can be done, though
[18:20] <EriC^^> if you just delete it and save it might say it can't be done i guess
[18:20] <parlas> I am not smart enough with linux to trust "maybe"
[18:20] <aot> how can i find out what "init system" there is in my ubuntu 14.04?
[18:20] <parlas> I need a sure way
[18:20] <Jordan_U> aot: It's upstart by default. Do you have reason to expect anything else?
[18:20] <EriC^^> parlas: no problem, try to delete it, it won't actually delete anything yet, then choose to move xubuntu and see what happens
[18:20] <aot> Jordan_U: and how about 12.04?
[18:20] <EriC^^> parlas: really it's a matter of how smart gparted is
[18:20] <Jordan_U> aot: Same.
[18:21] <parlas> EriC^^: this feels it can bork entire disk...no?
[18:21] <EriC^^> you could do the whole thing manually if you wanted, as ioria said it is technically doable
[18:21] <parlas> if it doesnt work
[18:21] <EriC^^> parlas: back up your stuff
[18:21] <ioria> parlas,  oh, yeah Backup
[18:21] <parlas> I have data backed up but don't have means right now to back up system
[18:21] <parlas> id rather not destroy xubuntu install
[18:21] <parlas> if its a real risk I will just not do it
[18:22] <EriC^^> parlas: you could use the elementary partition on xubuntu as a mountpoint for media and other stuff if you wanted
[18:22] <ioria> parlas,  someone uses Testdisk
[18:22] <aot> Jordan_U: ok, thanks, i just have few esrvers at work and i need to set up a 24/7 running service for them (needs to be started autom. after crash), bun in upstart there should be this kind of feature. btw doesn't it mean that it's not upstart if there is path /etc/init.d/ ..
[18:22] <EriC^^> it's always a risk to play with partition stuff and backups are obviously needed
[18:23] <ioria> parlas, and flips L tp P
[18:23] <ioria> *to
[18:23] <EriC^^> ioria: aha
[18:23] <ioria> ^_^
[18:23] <EriC^^> so use testdisk to convert, then gparted to delete elementary and move it back
[18:23] <Jordan_U> aot: No, upstart still has compatability with sysv style scripts, and in fact many (most?) services weren't ever actually updated to be native upstart services.
[18:24] <ioria> too messy for me
[18:24] <parlas> how do I use testdisk?
[18:24] <SchrodingersScat> !man
[18:24] <ioria> pass
[18:24] <EriC^^> parlas: testdisk can't actually move anything
[18:24] <EriC^^> ioria: lol
[18:24] <EriC^^> you started this
[18:24] <EriC^^> :P
[18:24] <ioria> sorry
[18:24] <aot> i thought sysv was still in use at least in 12.04
[18:25] <parlas> so nobody can say for sure how to do it for a noob then? its all "maybe" and comlicated messy risks?
[18:25] <EriC^^> parlas: anything with partitions is risky, we can't really guarantee anything
[18:26] <EriC^^> if you want an easy solution without messing anything up, use elementary as a mountpoint and when you have your backup at hand try to use gparted to see how it would go
[18:26] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you don't setup a partition for the ISO
[18:26] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: it's a block level copy you need
[18:27] <parlas> how do I use elementary as a mountpoint? does that mean boot into it?
[18:27] <ikonia> parlas: what are you trying to do
[18:27] <Jordan_U> aot: Ubuntu switched to upstart in 9.10.
[18:27] <pezdispenser> Hi i've struggled to find an application that lets me steam webcam to multiple sources,  like manycam would allow running in windows or mac,   does anyone know how to do this ?
[18:28] <parlas> ikonia: I am trying to remove Elementary OS which is installed in sda1 here: http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png and have sda6 Xubuntu install as primary...or maybe it should be sda2 as primary since sda6 is under it?
[18:29] <aot> Jordan_U: do you see it's hard to set up a service (perl script)that is autostarted after crash?
[18:29] <parlas> so I can get that sda1 space back since I dont use Elementary
[18:29] <ikonia> parlas: ok - so sda6 is your ubuntu drive - this is what you want
[18:29] <EriC^^> pezdispenser: obs project maybe?
[18:29] <ikonia> parlas: the first thing you need to make sure is that ubuntu is the OS that controls grub
[18:29] <ikonia> parlas: so re-apply grub to the MBR from ubuntu
[18:29] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: not sure i know what you mean -- so i just try to load the .iso right to the clean stick?
[18:29] <pezdispenser> EriC^^:  couldn't figure that out, seems outdated etc
[18:29] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you have a clean stick yes ?
[18:30] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: right now it just says 'unallocated' in gparted
[18:30] <pezdispenser> you would think this would be something you can do easily enough on linux
[18:30] <EriC^^> ikonia: maybe at the end? they want to move xubuntu to be the first partition on the disk
[18:30] <ikonia> EriC^^: maybe, he didn't say that so I can only assume
[18:30] <parlas> I dont know how to do that
[18:30] <EriC^^> ikonia: they want to make xubuntu the only os
[18:30] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: ok so "sudo dd if=path/to/the/iso/image of=/dev/sdb"
[18:31] <EriC^^> ikonia: also they dont have backups at hand and want risk-free
[18:31] <parlas> I just want to get rid of Elementary and only use Xubunutu...but Elementary is the primary partition
[18:31] <ikonia> EriC^^: right, so they can only do that once grub is under ubuntu control
[18:31] <parlas> I DO have data backups...not settings/system backup
[18:31] <ikonia> parlas: the primary partition doesn't matter, once you have ubuntu controlling grub, you can delete the other partition
[18:31] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i wouldn't know how to describe the path
[18:31] <parlas> so id rather not risk destruction if not required
[18:31] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where is the iso
[18:31] <EriC^^> parlas: you said you couldn't have xubuntu getting messed up right now..
[18:32] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: downloads i think lemme look again
[18:32] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: /home/marybuntu/Downloads
[18:32] <parlas> Ikonia it autoboots into Xubuntu...so that means ubuntu is in control right?
[18:33] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: ok so if=home/marybuntu/downloads/name-of-iso.iso
[18:33] <ikonia> parlas: no
[18:33] <EriC^^> ikonia: yeah my point was that maybe leave that til the end, i thought they're in a live usb but they're in the actual install
[18:33] <parlas> so I need to reboot and when grub screen comes up change something?
[18:33] <ikonia> EriC^^: lack of clear info
[18:33] <ikonia> parlas: no,
[18:33] <EriC^^> parlas: type sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && sudo update-grub
[18:34] <EriC^^> parlas: you can't actually do anything from the xubuntu session, you need a live usb to move the partition and whatnot
[18:35] <parlas> EriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/Zfor3nM.png
[18:36] <EriC^^> parlas: ok, do you have a live usb?
[18:36] <parlas> have but not with me atm
[18:36] <mikubuntu_> ikonia:      so ..   sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso .. ?
[18:36] <parlas> so I need to boot to live usb and then what?
[18:37] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: come on - pay attention, I gave you the exact command
[18:37] <mikubuntu_> sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:37] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where is the of section I gave you
[18:38] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i don't know if i'm describing it right :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:38] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: is that the entire command to copy it?
[18:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where is the "of" section I told you earlier
[18:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: no
[18:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you're not paying attention to detail
[18:38] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where is the first command I gave you
[18:40] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i don't know if i'm describing it right :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb ?
[18:40] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: why /image ?
[18:40] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: where has that come from ?
[18:40] <EriC^^> parlas: i already explained about gparted and stuff
[18:41] <mikubuntu_> from what you gave me :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb
[18:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: I didn't give you anything with /image
[18:41] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: look back, i think you did .. lol
[18:41] <ioria> EriC^^, can he dd his xubuntu on /dev/sda1  and reinstall grub after ?
[18:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: no, I didn't
[18:41] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you want the path to the iso file
[18:43] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: clearly i have a comprehension problem with these pathways and commands, should i just use the startup disk creator?
[18:43] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: no
[18:44] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so what part of it did i get wrong? sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb
[18:44] <VN7> anyone can give me some advice on deleting footer in libreoffice?
[18:44] <EriC^^> ioria: i guess so, people usually say it's a bad idea to dd a running session though
[18:44] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: you need the path to the iso file
[18:44] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: the iso file has no /image on the end
[18:45] <ioria> EriC^^, right, no livecd at hand
[18:45] <parlas> If I just backup my home directory it will save all settings for apps I have installed but not those apps right?
[18:45] <EriC^^> ioria: yeah, it's still a good idea though
[18:46] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/ of=/dev/sdb ??
[18:46] <EriC^^> maybe just rsync the stuff over though so it doesn't take too long
[18:46] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: no /
[18:46] <ioria> yeah
[18:46] <EriC^^> then chroot from current session and done
[18:46] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb ??
[18:47] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: better
[18:47] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: but is it best?
[18:47] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: its correct
[18:47] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i know it has to be perfect
[18:47] <mikubuntu_> lol
[18:47] <transhuman_> ok, so I have a question, where does one configure a global secondary eth0 ip address? For me this address shows up with  sudo ip addr
[18:47] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so that's the whole copy process?
[18:48] <ikonia> transhuman_: that would be in the interfaces files normally or the interfaces.d directory
[18:48] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: yes
[18:48] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: ok i try
[18:48] <ikonia> transhuman_: however network manager can also have an impact
[18:48] <transhuman_> interfaces.d directory ok...let me look for that folder
[18:48] <transhuman_> network manager isnt installed
[18:48] <ikonia> transhuman_: is this still the same problem from yesterday ?
[18:48] <EriC^^> parlas: honestly i'd just make it a extra mountpoint and call it a day until you have a live usb
[18:48] <transhuman_> yes
[18:49] <EriC^^> parlas: and yeah about your home dir
[18:49] <parlas> EriC^^: I will deal with that part later. I sm trying to figure out backups now
[18:49] <parlas> If I backup /home it takes with it settings but not apps right?
[18:49] <EriC^^> parlas: just backup your home dir and maybe the apps list
[18:49] <EriC^^> so you dont have to reinstall them one by one or guess what you had
[18:50] <parlas> where is apps list?
[18:50] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371171/
[18:50] <EriC^^> parlas: this gets a pretty short list "comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)"
[18:51] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: your file system has gone read only again
[18:51] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: I'd suggest your hard disk is possibly failing
[18:51] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: you feel me?
[18:51] <mikubuntu_> lol
[18:51] <parlas> EriC^^:  so how do I use that list to reinstall? or its just a manual list?
[18:51] <EriC^^> parlas: just run it and put > ~/installedpackages at the end so it saves the list there
[18:51] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: but WHY does it keep doing that
[18:51] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: I'd suggest your hard disk is possibly failing
[18:52] <EriC^^> to reinstall you do xargs -a ~/installedpackages sudo apt-get -y install
[18:52] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: well that's not very good news
[18:52] <EriC^^> i think that works, when you have the list it's no problem you can figure it out later
[18:53] <mikubuntu_> i just need it to work at least another two weeks, then i can deal with the hd if thats the problem
[18:53] <onixion> hi
[18:53] <parlas> can I just copy and paste home folder to USB drive to backup or it has to be imaged or something?
[18:54] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: it's been running 24/7 for months
[18:54] <EriC^^> parlas: yeah you can copy it over, it'll lose the permissions if you have special ones you've set
[18:54] <EriC^^> if you copy it to a ntfs or fat etc.
[18:54] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: so is there a path forward?
[18:55] <parlas> so what is best way to back things up?
[18:55] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: reboot? hammer?
[18:55] <parlas> I have data just copied to HDD....but how to best backup system?
[18:55] <EriC^^> parlas: if you dont have any special permissions then copy them to a usb
[18:59] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: are you wore out with me
[19:01] <mikubuntu_> is there a way to call up and condense dialogue that i'm tagged in
[19:02] <mikubuntu_> to save help sessions
[19:02] <bazhang> mikubuntu_, from irc?
[19:02] <mikubuntu_> bazhang: yes
[19:03] <lordcirth_> Someone showed me something like that but I can't remember it
[19:03] <mikubuntu_> bazhang: from these sessions here
[19:03] <bazhang> !1984 | mikubuntu_
[19:03] <bazhang> use the find feature on your browser mikubuntu_
[19:03] <lordcirth_> Yeah, you can look through the logs for your name
[19:03] <mikubuntu_> bazhang: but i dont' want the whole logs, just sections that i experienced
[19:04] <lordcirth_> Someone showed me an IRC command that printed everything with my name in it..
[19:04] <mikubuntu_> need a script for that, from one of you smart whippersnaps
[19:05] <bazhang> check the html version mikubuntu_ and use the find feature with your nick
[19:05] <mikubuntu_> right now, i guess ikonia is on well deserved break, but i have to figure out how to copy this .iso to stick, and the box has gone read-only on me
[19:06] <bazhang> mikubuntu_, please ask the channel and not for just one individual
[19:07] <ioria> mikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/22/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mynick ciccio    change the day
[19:08] <mikubuntu_> i am asking the channel .. lol. all these guys have been helping me since about 9 this morning, and it's 3pm already.
[19:09] <ioria> mikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu_  ciccio
[19:09] <mikubuntu_> ioria: thx but it's greek to me
[19:09] <ioria> mikubuntu_,  just run it in terminal
[19:10] <mikubuntu_> ioria: starting with "curl ... ?
[19:10] <ioria> mikubuntu_,  yep
[19:10] <transhuman_> well looks like my /etc/network/interfaces.d is empty as well
[19:12] <ioria> mikubuntu_,  remember  that you were using mikubuntu and not mikubuntu_    so use mikubuntu
[19:12] <ioria> mikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu  ciccio
[19:13] <lost1nfound> hey guys, im having problems with 16.04's new _apt user for dropping apt-get privileges. i use certificate auth with a private apt repo, and i keep getting "error reading X.509 key or certificate file: Error while reading file."
[19:13] <mikubuntu_> its not working getting error: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu_  ciccio bash: ciccio: Read-only file system marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$
[19:13] <nysobuntu> hi there, is there no way to make use of my AMD 8870M in my Samsung Notebook? Cause "Additional Drivers" doesn't show anything
[19:13] <lost1nfound> so, i added an ssl-cert group and made _apt the only member of it, and gave group ownership of all of /etc/ssl to _apt. but that still didnt help
[19:13] <ioria> mikubuntu_, it's not working for another reason, i'am afraid
[19:14] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: just reboot your box again
[19:14] <ikonia> mikubuntu_: just be aware it's possible your hard disk is failing
[19:14] <nysobuntu> ahh ubuntu 16.10
[19:14] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: ok
[19:20] <mikubuntu_> ikonia: i'm going to lose the whole command again when i reboot ... argh
[19:20] <yao_ziyuan> in ubuntu 16.10, when i remove files from a mobile hard disk in nautilus, the removed files won't show up in the Trash can.
[19:20] <lordcirth_> yao_ziyuan, removeable drives don't use the Trash, I think.
[19:20] <yao_ziyuan> so i resort to dolphin, but dolphin lacks icons for files and folders. which package will install kde icons?
[19:21] <yao_ziyuan> lordcirth_: they used to in previous ubuntu versions.
[19:21] <snkcld> is it possibel to resize a corestorage volume with gparted?
[19:22] <yao_ziyuan> it seems dolphin would store files from a mobile hard disk in Trash (of course, KDE's Trash).
[19:23] <yao_ziyuan> maybe ubuntu 16.10's Nautilus is premature.
[19:23] <parlas> is there a channel for general linux?
[19:23] <SuperSeriousCat> ##linux
[19:24] <SuperSeriousCat> Well hidden
[19:24] <ioria> yao_ziyuan, look on your usb device if there is a  .Trash-1000 folder
[19:24] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: yes
[19:25] <ioria> yao_ziyuan, that should be your trash
[19:25] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: but how do i access it graphically?
[19:25] <parlas> I cant seem to speak on ##linux
[19:25] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,  make hidden visible ctrl +H
[19:25] <parlas> it says "cannot send"...does it require registration or something?
[19:25] <ioria> parlas, you need to register
[19:25] <parlas> ugh
[19:25] <ioria> !register
[19:25] <yao_ziyuan> ioria: but they won't show up in THE Trash, right?
[19:25] <master_gi> hi
[19:26] <parlas> not interested in registering anywhere.....figures
[19:26] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,  idk
[19:26] <ningu> if I want a couple commands to run at system startup, can I put them in /etc/rc.local?
[19:26] <ningu> this is a temporary debugging measure
[19:26] <ioria> parlas, registering on Freenode is GOOD !
[19:27] <parlas> i prefer anonymity and not having to give emails etc
[19:27] <ioria> ok
[19:27] <ikonia> then you pay the price for that and can't use the channel
[19:27] <parlas> right...why I said ugh
[19:28] <mikubuntu> ikonia: back, and going in for the kill
[19:28] <yao_ziyuan> what's the package that provides KDE system icons?
[19:28] <yao_ziyuan> i think i'd go with Dolphin for now.
[19:32] <mikubuntu> geeeeesh -- what now? :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371346/
[19:33] <lost1nfound> anyone know anything about getting ssl client auth working with apt-get in 16.04?
[19:33] <ioria> mikubuntu, your disk is gone
[19:34] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, 'dmesg | tail -n 30 ' to see the error better
[19:34] <lordcirth_> But probably your disk is dead, yeah
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> what's a good file manager besides nautilus and dolphin?
[19:35] <daehee> hi
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> yao_ziyuan  find any filemanager in the softwarecenter, find out which suits your needs
[19:36] <lordcirth_> yao_ziyuan, thunar is nice.
[19:36] <ioria> yao_ziyuan,   you can try pcmanfm
[19:36] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: lemme try
[19:37] <yao_ziyuan> users of ubuntu 16.10, when you remove a file from a mobile hard disk, does it show up in your Trash?
[19:37] <yao_ziyuan> if not, i think this is a serious regression.
[19:38] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371381/
[19:38] <ioria> mikubuntu,  Remounting filesystem read-only
[19:38] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, "Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed" - drive's toast
[19:39] <ioria> mikubuntu, there is a reason why it remount ro, and for avoiding other damage
[19:39] <mikubuntu> ioria: lordcirth_ why does it work at all? how am i on here?
[19:40] <ioria> mikubuntu,  a philosophical question ?
[19:40] <mikubuntu> ioria: no, i mean like, why is the box working at all if the drive is fried?
[19:40] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, because drives frequently don't fail all at once. Get any data you need off of it, if you haven't already, then get a new one.
[19:41] <ioria> mikubuntu,  try to save a file
[19:41] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, enough of it is failed that it's causing problems.  The problems will get worse and then it won't boot anymore.  Backup first
[19:41] <mikubuntu> just did, was working on it all day long from 9a - 3p by the time we got it
[19:41] <ioria> mikubuntu,  but not now
[19:42] <rolontloss> Bash on windows = <3
[19:43] <Yiota> rolontloss yup
[19:43] <Yiota> just got the subsystem
[19:43] <rolontloss> I am using xming to output xserver with xchat
[19:43] <mikubuntu> ok i've got a 500 gb drive that i've used 3% of in 2 years -- would it make sense to get a much smaller solid state drive? does ssd play nice with lubuntu?
[19:43] <lordcirth_> Note that support for Ubuntu on Windows is not on-topic here.
[19:43] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, SSD's are amazing
[19:44] <lordcirth_> Double-check the model you're going to buy, but it should work fine.
[19:44] <rolontloss> gomen
[19:44] <rolontloss> Is there #ubuntu-chat?
[19:44] <mikubuntu> lordcirth_: i can't afford much, but i've seen smaller ones pretty cheap online -- would you trust them?
[19:44] <lordcirth_> rolontloss, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:45] <ioria> mikubuntu,  ssd are very good , but not necessary
[19:45] <lordcirth_> mikubuntu, look up reviews.  However, you should never trust any 1 drive to never fail.  Always have backups.
[19:45] <mikubuntu> yes of course that makes sense
[19:45] <ubuntu> tt
[19:46] <kastor> jooj?
[19:46] <mikubuntu> i wonder if i can keep this working long enough to get my other box running. it failed right after an update several months ago.
[19:46] <Guest45745> okk
[19:48] <ioria> mikubuntu,  nope, ext4 is very sensible (permis, etc.) maybe you can use that disk as ntfs store, but i'am against that
[19:49] <daehee> if im using linux 3.15 on ubuntu12.04, what happens if I update with 'distro update'?, does the kernel downgraded?
[19:55] <Mishari> Salam ubuntuers
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> daehee  try with -s     for simulate, see what happens
[20:05] <sarek> What are the numbers for '-rw-r--r--'?
[20:05] <sarek> 644?
[20:06] <lordcirth_> sarek, correct.
[20:06] <sarek> thanks
[20:06] <ouroumov_> sarek, yes
[20:06] <lordcirth_> 4 is read, write 2, exec 1
[20:09] <Theotop> hi all !
[20:10] <Theotop> somebodyu can help me install composer on ubuntu ?
[20:11] <SchrodingersScat> !info composer
[20:11] <lordcirth_> Theotop, composer for php?
[20:12] <Theotop> ye sfor php ;)
[20:12] <SchrodingersScat> sudo apt install composer
[20:13] <Theotop> no it's not working that way :)
[20:13] <Theotop> :)
[20:15] <SchrodingersScat> Theotop: would you like to elaborate?
[20:19] <Theotop> i'd like to tst laravel
[20:19] <SchrodingersScat> !info laravel
[20:24] <junaidnaseer2> has anyone ever tried connecting to some BBS from the PCManX software from Ubuntu?
[20:24] <Theotop> i've found a solution guys when moving the file to bin directory
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> !info pcmanx-gtk2
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> Uptime: 102 days(!)  #htop added the (!), should I be concerned?
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> or is htop really excited for me?
[20:33] <Spec> SchrodingersScat: you should be concerned
[20:34] <Spec> because it implies you are running a 102 day-old security-hole-ridden kernel and associated packages
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> I may reboot then...
[20:34] <rocket__> hi
[20:34] <rocket__> i have a problem with ubuntu under virtual box
[20:34] <rocket__> in windows 10
[20:35] <rocket__> i can't install it
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> Spec: I'll do a quick backup then risk it.
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> rocket__: what seems to be the issue?
[20:35] <rocket__> hard to say it seems that virtual box is not working right
[20:35] <rocket__> last issue was a kernel panic
[20:36] <rocket__> other issues were that the installation has not finished
[20:36] <rocket__> it seems to be a problem with the virtual hard disk
[20:37] <lordcirth_> rocket__, has Virtualbox thrown any errors?
[20:37] <rocket__> no
[20:37] <SchrodingersScat> You went through the install wizard for the vhd? is your real hdd ok?
[20:37] <rocket__> the errors are in ubuntu
[20:38] <rocket__> yes no the hdd is ok
[20:38] <rocket__> its new
[20:38] <rocket__> i went through the wizard
[20:38] <lordcirth_> What version of Ubuntu and Vbox?
[20:38] <SchrodingersScat> what exactly does it mention about the disk?
[20:39] <rocket__> newest
[20:39] <rocket__> version
[20:39] <rocket__> i tried ubuntu and ubuntu
[20:39] <rocket__> xubnuntu
[20:39] <rocket__> xubuntu
[20:39] <rocket__> both are failing
[20:39] <lordcirth_> 16.10?
[20:39] <willpwr> lul
[20:39] <lordcirth_> Well yeah, they aren't that different
[20:39] <rocket__> yes
[20:40] <SchrodingersScat> rocket__: so you're mounting the iso as a livecd in virtualbox? are you sure the iso is good?
[20:40] <Gourlay> could someone explain why I must reboot to get my wifi and time to work?
[20:40] <rocket__> i have both iso files from the official sites
[20:41] <rocket__> i could try an older version
[20:41] <lordcirth_> rocket__, did you see any error messages?
[20:41] <rocket__> yes
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> can you give us the full line if available? can use a pastebin site if it's multi line
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> Spec: ok, rebooting, It's been a while, I'm scared, hold me?
[20:42] <rocket__> yes one moment
[20:43] <rocket__> https://www.google.at/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=kernel+panic+-+not+syncing+vfs+unable+to+mount+root+fs+on+unknown-block(0+0)&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=0yANWOaQO-Pa8AfVsqugAg
[20:43] <rocket__> kernel panic - not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0 0)
[20:43] <rocket__> sorry
[20:43] <rocket__> and one time it was installing
[20:43] <rocket__> and after install it only booted into grub
[20:44] <rocket__> terminal line
[20:44] <rocket__> pretty strange
[20:46] <Bray90820> tomreyn: You around?
[20:47] <Bray90820> It turned out my bios was the latest
[20:47] <rocket__> so any idea?
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> Spec: it worked, htop is appeased for now.
[20:49] <Guest74860> how to configure google talk call on ubuntu
[20:50] <Bray90820> Guest74860: Google talk doesn't exist anymore it's been changed to hangouts
[20:50] <patadasAlHigado> anyone with 16.20? working well? I am thinking about updating it
[20:51] <Bray90820> patadasAlHigado: Did you mean 16.10
[20:51] <EriC^^> rocket__: did you checksum the isos
[20:51] <EriC^^> ?
[20:52] <rocket__> no
[20:52] <patadasAlHigado> yes, 16.10
[20:52] <EriC^^> did you use torrent
[20:52] <EriC^^> ?
[20:52] <rocket__> EriC^^: no
[20:52] <SchrodingersScat> patadasAlHigado: I haven't seen many complaints, I may upgrade today myself.
[20:52] <Bray90820> In my opinion it works much better than 16,04 unless your using it on a surface
[20:52] <rocket__> EriC^^: i used http download
[20:52] <Bray90820> patadasAlHigado:
[20:52] <EriC^^> !checksum | rocket__
[20:52] <SchrodingersScat> !backups | patadasAlHigado
[20:53] <mjjm> hi
[20:53] <obo_> Hello I have a question about boot.img (GRUB2)
[20:53] <obo_>  I am trying to find this binary on my system with dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr bs=512 skip=N
[20:53] <obo_> But no matter the value of N
[20:53] <obo_> the MD5 value differ
[20:54] <obo_> What I am doing wrong ?
[20:55] <EriC^^> obo_: for starters 512 is the whole mbr
[20:55] <EriC^^> including the partition table
[20:55] <mjjm> I look find french irc, how do I do?
[20:55] <SchrodingersScat> !fr | mjjm
[20:55] <EriC^^> mjjm: /join #ubuntu-fr
[20:56] <hfp> Hi, I'm struggling with NFS permissions... I have an export that belongs to nobody:nogroup. When I `sudo -u nobody touch foo` from the NFS server, i works fine. If i go on a client and `touch foo`, I have permission denied. I can however read files that belong to nobody:nogroup from the client. What am I missing? How to configure NFS properly to get id of non matching UID/GID?
[20:56] <rocket__> EriC^^: ok, i have downloaded 2 different iso
[20:56] <rocket__> xubuntu and ubuntu
[20:56] <obo_> EriC^^: but the boot.img is 512
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> rocket__: and you checksumed them?
[20:56] <rocket__> don't think both of them are damaged
[20:56] <rocket__> no i didn't
[20:56] <mjjm> ok thank you I m trying
[20:56] <EriC^^> obo_: what's your end goal
[20:57] <obo_> Just understand GRUB
[20:57] <EriC^^> obo_: i'd read the arch wiki
[20:58] <rocket__> EriC^^: why should i checksum them i downloaded it from the official site
[20:58] <SchrodingersScat> to make certain that the download went smoothly
[20:59] <EriC^^> it's like checking you have fuel before starting to test other stuff in a car
[20:59] <EriC^^> just common sense
[21:00] <rocket__> ok but i don't think thats the issue
[21:00] <rocket__> rather its my pc
[21:00] <rocket__> and virtualization doesn't work right
[21:00] <rocket__> or its vbox
[21:00] <EriC^^> it's very easy to check..
[21:00] <rocket__> and windows 10
[21:00] <rocket__> which i suspect
[21:00] <rocket__> i will checksum it
[21:01] <SchrodingersScat> I run a xubuntu vm in win10, my hardware is pretty basic though
[21:01] <rocket__> i have some i5
[21:01] <EriC^^> rocket__: run a smart test for the hdd
[21:01] <rocket__> ok
[21:01] <rocket__> i think the hdd is ok
[21:01] <rocket__> i haven't had any problems so far
[21:02] <EriC^^> my money's on it's dying
[21:02] <rocket__> its 2 weeks old
[21:02] <Nirco> Hi! Can someone help me to install Ubunto in a Laptop with Nvidia GTX?
[21:02] <SchrodingersScat> not all hdd truly liv
[21:02] <EriC^^> lol
[21:02] <rocket__> EriC^^: its 2 weeks old and its an ssd
[21:02] <EriC^^> well really it's either a bad hdd or bad iso (almost certainly one of them)
[21:03] <rocket__> ok
[21:03] <SchrodingersScat> have you reseated the ram?
[21:03] <EriC^^> and i've seen that error many times with people who put a good iso on a bad usb
[21:04] <rocket__> no i haven't SchrodingersScat the whole computer is brand new
[21:04] <rocket__> about 2 weeks old
[21:05] <ELQEYNN> Hi everybody. I'm disenchanted with SuSE. I heard that there is good support given for ubuntu.
[21:05] <dishwasher> on irc?
[21:05] <ELQEYNN> on irc or other places
[21:06] <ELQEYNN> Does ubuntu use  GNOME-3 ?
[21:06] <dishwasher> yeah it's better than other distros
[21:06] <ELQEYNN> in what way is it better?
[21:06] <ELQEYNN> easier to use?
[21:06] <dishwasher> no, I mean the support
[21:06] <ppf> the distros are all the same
[21:06] <ppf> you can install gnome-3 on ubuntu
[21:07] <ELQEYNN> Where do you find the support?
[21:07] <ppf> here
[21:07] <SchrodingersScat> !gnome | ELQEYNN
[21:07] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu-gnome
[21:08] <ELQEYNN> I heard that there is a window manager called cinnamon, which is not most poular.
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> !mate
[21:08] <neytiri> does anyone know why my gui crashes when i have both my graphcs cards enabled and running 2 monitors a peace (crashes at login)
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> !cinnamon
[21:09] <ELQEYNN> What is cinnamon, then?
[21:09] <nicomachus> !bot abuse > SchrodingersScat
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> that seemed relevant, but ok
[21:10] <lordcirth_> ELQEYNN, cinnamon is a DE similar to MATE, meant to succeed it.
[21:10] <nicomachus> :D
[21:10] <nicomachus> <3 you SchrodingersScat
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> lordcirth_: how did that go? is cinnamon in the land of wind and ghosts?
[21:10] <dishwasher> isn't it the DE you get with Mint
[21:11] <dishwasher> they started it i think
[21:11] <ELQEYNN> Can you use the   software developed for the KDE project? or the GNOME project, with MATE or  cinnamon?
[21:11] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: :)
[21:11] <nicomachus> dishwasher: yes.
[21:11] <Ben64> ELQEYNN: yes
[21:11] <SchrodingersScat> oh, it's in repos
[21:11] <ELQEYNN> Is there a chess game for ubuntu?
[21:12] <Ben64> yes
[21:12] <ELQEYNN> What kind of email package is used for ubuntu?
[21:12] <nicomachus> !info dreamchess > ELQEYNN
[21:12] <Ben64> kind?
[21:12] <lordcirth_> ELQEYNN, whatever you like.  I think Evolution is default.
[21:13] <nicomachus> thunderbird, isn't it?
[21:13] <Ben64> theres web browsers, and standalone email clients
[21:13] <ELQEYNN> And the web browser?
[21:13] <tr1f3> anybody ever had problems connecting to efnet
[21:13] <lordcirth_> ELQEYNN, firefox by default, like most
[21:13] <ppf> !help > ppf
[21:14] <ppf> TIL
[21:14] <ELQEYNN> Is Opera available?
[21:14] <lordcirth_> ppf, if you're going to send to yourself, why not query?
[21:14] <nicomachus> I'm curious what he learned.
[21:14] <nicomachus> ELQEYNN: yes.
[21:14] <ppf> nicomachus: the > operator
[21:14] <nicomachus> ah
[21:14] <ppf> :)
[21:15] <nicomachus> yea it's useful for not clogging the channel with long factoids.
[21:15] <ppf> ya
[21:15] <nicomachus> even better is /msg ubottu !factoid
[21:15] <ppf> if i were to factoid myself, sure
[21:15] <ELQEYNN> Is the Opera browser available for ubuntu?
[21:15] <SchrodingersScat> ELQEYNN: yes
[21:15] <ppf> ELQEYNN: yes
[21:16] <ppf> though vivalde is more like the future (tm)
[21:16] <ELQEYNN> vivalde?
[21:16] <ppf> vivaldi
[21:16] <lordcirth_> Vivaldi seems nice, but no tree-style tabs yet :)
[21:16] <ELQEYNN> Is that another browser?
[21:16] <ELQEYNN> What about LibreOffice?
[21:17] <ELQEYNN> What kind of package management system?
[21:17] <ppf> ELQEYNN: you can get every software on ubuntu
[21:17] <ppf> and if you can't there's an equivalent
[21:17] <ppf> ubuntus package manager is apt
[21:17] <nicomachus> yea... idk about EVERY software. haha
[21:17] <dishwasher> lordcirth_: do you use a firefox extension for that?
[21:17] <nicomachus> but most. and a lot more that you CAN'T get on windows or mac.
[21:18] <Ben64> coming from suse, probably have everything on ubuntu as well. especially the big stuff
[21:18] <ELQEYNN> How does the package manager work?
[21:19] <ppf> !apt
[21:19] <lordcirth_> dishwasher, yes, it's literally called 'tree style tabs' and it's great
[21:19] <nicomachus> I can 2nd that
[21:19] <ELQEYNN> dishwasher?
[21:19] <nicomachus> chromium has them too.
[21:19] <dishwasher> ELQEYNN: ?
[21:19] <lordcirth_> I was using tab groups, but this is better
[21:20] <ELQEYNN> chromium, the browser?
[21:20] <nicomachus> I like the firefox add-on better than the chrome extension, though.
[21:20] <nicomachus> yes, ELQEYNN
[21:21] <dishwasher> oh wow it's nice
[21:22] <dishwasher> i tried one before but it was just a proof of concept
[21:22] <Arrghus> ELQEYNN: Ubuntu Software Center is a graphical interface to a searchable database of commonly used ubuntu software, complete with descriptions and reviews and stuff. Makes it easy to install things for people not willing to get their hands dirty with terminal nonsense.
[21:23] <nicomachus> basically, an app store.
[21:24] <Arrghus> Basically an app store, yeah.
[21:24] <porcupine97> can anyone tell me the current status of ubuntu touch? I heard the project was stopped, but I keep getting references to it while browsing around
[21:24] <Arrghus> But with less 'store' and more 'free stuff'. Not all free, but more free.
[21:25] <nicomachus> mostly free.
[21:25] <nicomachus> porcupine97: #ubuntu-touch
[21:25] <porcupine97> nicomachus, tks
[21:28] <insy> does anyone know a theme for ubuntu 16.05 that can make the menubars etc like seethrough glasslike
[21:28] <insy> meant 16.04
[21:29] <nicomachus> insy: maybe try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/224865/how-to-change-menu-opacity#229292
[21:31] <unknow> re
[21:32] <raymondillo> Hi all. Can anyone give me a definitive pointer (url) to enabling the hibernate function on 16.04. I have googled a couple of hours and tried 3 or 4 suggestions, with no joy so far. I'm on a Dell Inspiron 15 3558. It's a fresh install. Thanks Ray.
[21:33] <anonymous_> hello
[21:33] <unknow> :D
[21:33] <anonymous_> ufff, real people xD
[21:34] <nicomachus> raymondillo: can you please open a terminal and run "sudo pm-hibernate" and let me know what the output says?
[21:34] <unknow> ^^
[21:34] <anonymous_> please, anyone of you could help me?
[21:34] <porcupine97> raymondillo, I think you will have to mess with ACPI/APIC stuff - it depends on your BIOS setup
[21:34] <EriC^^> anonymous_: ask
[21:35] <nicomachus> porcupine97: nah, not really.
[21:35] <anonymous_> i am trying to force xchat work through tor network...
[21:35] <nicomachus> raymondillo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/768136/how-can-i-hibernate-on-ubuntu-16-04#819891
[21:35] <nicomachus> isn't xchat dead?
[21:36] <anonymous_> using it right now...
[21:36] <nicomachus> yea but it's not being updated is it?
[21:36] <porcupine97> nicomachus, xchat...
[21:36] <raymondillo> nicomachus: Thanks but no output at all. I had tried that. I have 8GB Ram and a large enough swap space.
[21:36] <jatt> !info xchat
[21:36] <jatt> !info xchat-gnome
[21:36] <jatt> dammit
[21:36] <nicomachus> heh. do NOT google xchat...
[21:36] <rocket__> now it works EriC^^
[21:36] <rocket__> i took another version
[21:37] <anonymous_> xchat-gnome, sorry
[21:37] <rocket__> 16.10 instead of 16.4
[21:37] <porcupine97> nicomachus, I know bitchx is :)
[21:37] <nicomachus> yea, no updates since 2010 for xchat. the new fork is Hexchat
[21:37] <EriC^^> rocket__: cool
[21:37] <rocket__> i have to say i dont like the unity look
[21:37] <DFarmerTX> Hexchat works like a champ, for m.
[21:37] <DFarmerTX> e
[21:37] <rocket__> why do i have to register to download software
[21:37] <nicomachus> rocket__: then use a different DE. That's the gloriousness of linux.
[21:37] <rocket__> i can do it from the terminal
[21:37] <nicomachus> and you don't have to register...
[21:37] <anonymous_> okay, so I have instaled hexchat too...
[21:37] <rocket__> i will
[21:38] <porcupine97> wow! mine is from 2010! lol
[21:38] <rocket__> i liked xcfe
[21:38] <rocket__> i will install it
[21:38] <nicomachus> anonymous_: then ask in #hexchat about torifying it
[21:38] <anonymous_> never used irc, how to go #hexchat
[21:38] <nicomachus> type "/join #hexchat"
[21:39] <`{^v^}> click on #hexchat <-
[21:39] <anonymous_> thanks you guys
[21:39] <techno2900_> hello ! I would like to know how can I know if a PPA is totally free (without contrib and non free)
[21:39] <nicomachus> techno2900_: gotta check their release site.
[21:39] <techno2900_> but I don't know the release site
[21:39] <techno2900_> I know it's avcon
[21:40] <techno2900_> or something like that
[21:40] <nicomachus> avcon is non-free, because it has plugins for MP3 and other filetypes that are non-free.
[21:40] <techno2900_> okay
[21:40] <nicomachus> mp3, mp4, etc.
[21:40] <techno2900_> so a alternative to avcon exist ?
[21:40] <techno2900_> or not?
[21:41] <raymondillo> nicomachus: I had tried your above url but hadn't noticed that bit  at the end after the btrfs section. Off for some more reading. Thanks.
[21:41] <techno2900_> because I use youtube-dl and without avcon, I have no video only the sound
[21:41] <nicomachus> techno2900_: It's free as in there's no cost, but it's not free as in freedom.
[21:41] <inra> hello everyone, I didn't run any update but firefox popped up a notice out of the blue, saying that I should restart firefox to apply updates???!
[21:41] <techno2900_> i know
[21:41] <`{^v^}> MP# is now part of the public domain
[21:41] <`{^v^}> MP3
[21:41] <techno2900_> but a alternative to avcon exist ?
[21:42] <nicomachus> techno2900_: and since you're downloading from YouTube, you're already non-free. might as well use avconv
[21:42] <techno2900_> okay but it's the name of program, i don't download from youtube
[21:43] <`{^v^}> VLC can do a lot of what avconv does
[21:43] <techno2900_> i can but I notadeveloper
[21:43] <techno2900_> sorry keyboard
[21:43] <techno2900_> i don't download from youtube
[21:43] <`{^v^}> what are you wantng to do with it?
[21:44] <nicomachus> techno2900_: check the manpage from youtube-dl and make sure you're downloading hte correct formats. MKV is good for video.
[21:44] <techno2900_> download french tv video (im a canadian)
[21:44] <techno2900_> okay
[21:44] <nicomachus> mkv is also open/free.
[21:44] <techno2900_> or I convert mp4 to mkv
[21:44] <techno2900_> but for my problem of avcon with youtube-dl ?
[21:45] <rocket__> it always wants me to connect to ubuntu1
[21:45] <rocket__> i should register
[21:45] <nicomachus> rocket__: what version of ubuntu? I thought UbuntuOne was dead...
[21:45] <rocket__> 16.10
[21:45] <rocket__> 64bit
[21:46] <rocket__> when i trz to install
[21:46] <snkcld> when i installed dnsmasq, it looks like my /etc/resolv.conf is automatically set to use <IP_ADDRESS>, and my dhcp resolver is no longer in there
[21:46] <rocket__> i cant
[21:46] <rocket__> it wants me to register
[21:46] <snkcld> how do i get it so that the original /etc/resolv.conf settings are back?
[21:46] <techno2900_> for avcon I make what ?
[21:47] <rocket__> it says to install and remove snaps you need ubuntu1
[21:48] <rocket__> ubuntu single sign on
[21:48] <rocket__> account
[21:48] <rocket__> man arrgg
[21:48] <rocket__> thats like spam
[21:49] <patadasAlHigado> is ubuntu phone still alive?
[21:49] <nicomachus> patadasAlHigado: yes. #ubuntu-touch
[21:49] <patadasAlHigado> are new terminals going to appear?
[21:49] <techno2900_> nicomachus: so for avcon, a solution exist ?
[21:50] <nicomachus> techno2900_: not that I can find.
[21:50] <techno2900_> nicomachus : okay thank you for your help :)
[21:51] <sashpta> Hey can someone pls help me with my vpn ?
[21:51] <nicomachus> !details | sashpta
[21:52] <rocket__> but well doesnt look that bad
[21:52] <sashpta> i got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location :S
[21:53] <jesperson> Hey guys, do you know of any specific teamspeak channel? Or might it be fine for me to ask my question here?
[21:53] <nicomachus> !alis > jesperson
[21:53] <insy> @ nicomachus  tnx for the idea but it seems not doable that way
[21:54] <techno2900_> nicomachus  : oh and I have one last question. ffmpeg is free or not ?
[21:55] <nicomachus> techno2900_: same as avconv
[21:55] <nicomachus> ubuntu used avconv for a few releases, then went back to ffmpeg. They do the same thing.
[21:55] <techno2900_> okay thanks
[21:56] <kk4ewt> techno2900_, no it is not free
[21:56] <techno2900_> kk4ewt : do you know a alternative ?
[21:56] <insy> as it seems , to customize the opacity of it, you need to customize the theme.
[21:57] <kk4ewt> ogg or flac
[21:57] <kk4ewt> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/MPEG.html
[21:59] <dishwasher> techno2900_: what are you trying to do?
[21:59] <nicomachus> dishwasher: he's trying to find a free/free audio converter to use with youtube-dl
[21:59] <dishwasher> nicomachus: to which format though?
[22:00] <rocket__> nicomachus, works all fine now
[22:00] <jesperson> There doesn't seem to be any more specific than #teamspeak and there's only 1 guy in there
[22:00] <nicomachus> idk. I told him to just download it as .mkv
[22:00] <rocket__> i dont use the software center
[22:00] <nicomachus> me neither.
[22:00] <rocket__> ubuntu looks not bad
[22:01] <rocket__> now i have windows and using ubuntu in a vm
[22:01] <nicomachus> rocket__: there's a reason it's the most popular linux distro for new users ATM
[22:01] <rocket__> when i have much more time i will have linux and windows in a vm
[22:01] <rocket__> i wanted to use arch linux later
[22:02] <bit101> Arch is great fun to mess with and great for learning
[22:02] <bit101> but at some point you just want a system that works without constant tweaking
[22:03] <dishwasher> but the AUR
[22:03] <dishwasher> it was so annoying honestly
[22:04] <sashpta>  i got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location and real ip :/
[22:10] <nightwalkerkg> Is it possible to use compiz manager in Ubuntu 16.10 ?
[22:11] <insy> not sure but i cannot find a way to change the opacity for menus etc
[22:12] <nightwalkerkg> I am trying to remove the shadow from the unity launcher
[22:12] <nightwalkerkg> And customize it.
[22:14] <insy> u meant that uber tiny line
[22:15] <nightwalkerkg> insy: yes but also there is a shadow on top near the top and on the right side.
[22:17] <insy> i got so only have that tily lil line my lacher at the bottom
[22:17] <rocket__> is there a lot of bloatware in ubuntu
[22:17] <rocket__> they have some amazon app preinstalled
[22:19] <tyrog> rocket__: What do you consider bloatware? It's very user-dependant
[22:19] <unknow> xxx
[22:20] <rocket__> lol and there it goes
[22:21] <rocket__> ubuntu has experienced an internal error
[22:21] <unknow> yep
[22:21] <unknow> :D
[22:21] <rocket__> i hope i can reboot
[22:21] <rocket__> otherwise i have done all this work for nothing
[22:21] <dishwasher> libreoffice is bloatware
[22:21] <dishwasher> it parses docx
[22:22] <bit101> when i install ubuntu, i remove libreoffice, thunderbird and all the games. frees up a bunch of space
[22:23] <bit101> the games don't take up much, but i'll never use them
[22:23] <bit101> libre and thunderbird are large though. i get rid of them right off
[22:23] <rocket__> webcontainer crashed
[22:23] <rocket__> what does that mean?
[22:23] <rocket__> browser?
[22:24] <dishwasher> rocket__: was the browser open?
[22:25] <rocket__> yes
[22:25] <rocket__> was open
[22:25] <dishwasher> oh
[22:26] <dishwasher> then I have no idea
[22:26] <dishwasher> your setup seems a bit broken
[22:26] <dishwasher> though
[22:27] <sashpta>  i got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location :S
[22:29] <rocket__> the software center sucks
[22:29] <rocket__> it doesnt work at all
[22:30] <Caluser2000> Install synaptic.
[22:31] <rocket__> ok i do
[22:32] <rocket__> Caluser2000, yes that one is far better
[22:36] <step1step2> is there any way to access a fat32 partition on Ubuntu? the partition has to be fat32 cause of mac os. I've tried using a symbolic link on windows but it didn't work out. I'm running windows if you might wonder
[22:36] <kk4ewt> mount it
[22:38] <weedbox> 7
[22:39] <step1step2> http://i.imgur.com/dam1N9S.png
[22:40] <Caleb--> hi
[22:40] <Caleb--> i have just installed an nvidia gtx 1070 graphics card and i'm experiencing some slowness with ubuntu. previously i was using an intel igpu
[22:41] <Caleb--> using the proprietary nvidia drivers
[22:41] <Caleb--> system startup and shutdown have become slower
[22:41] <Caleb--> and when having many chrome tabs open, the whole of unity becomes sluggish
[22:41] <th0r> step1step2, check if that hostname is in /etc/hosts, and if it shows as response to 'hostname'
[22:41] <Caleb--> does this sound familiar to anyone?
[22:42] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: What version driver did you install and from where ?
[22:44] <th0r> step1step2, bash.exe?
[22:44] <step1step2> th0r: http://i.imgur.com/dxzC4mX.png https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/about
[22:45] <step1step2> it works like a vm afaik
[22:45] <th0r> step1step2, but it isn't ubuntu, why are you asking here?
[22:46] <step1step2> because I'm using zsh
[22:46] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, i installed nvidia-370 from the graphics-drivers PPA. Also tried nvidia-367 and nouveau.
[22:46] <needssomehelp> hey everyone. I was planning to sell a hard disk but I then read that people can retrieve my files from it even if I have formatted it. Is there some way to prevent that?
[22:46] <th0r> needssomehelp, wipe it
[22:47] <needssomehelp> th0r, what do you mean?
[22:47] <th0r> needssomehelp, sudo apt install wipe && man wipe
[22:47] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, i wonder if i need to make any changes after moving from the intel igpu. i only disabled it in the BIOS.
[22:47] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: Great . that is all I know to do . That is the end of my skill set .
[22:48] <Caleb--> :-(
[22:48] <Maimster> Anyone use Acronis? I was wondering does Linux have a way to read the *.tib files?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: Hybrid graphics ? or just added the Nvidia card ?
[22:48] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, just added the nvidia card.
[22:48] <Maimster> It isn't a life or death thing, just nosey.
[22:49] <needssomehelp> ok thanks th0r i will try that!
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: I would read the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, see what X has to say .
[22:49] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, shutdown takes suspiciously longer now, and the ubuntu logo appears different from how it was when i had the intel. also, i cannot hit ESC or TAB to see shutdown progress/logs.
[22:51] <Ben64> needssomehelp: in reality, all you need to do is "dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=<hard drive device>"
[22:53] <needssomehelp> Ben64, could you please explain to me what the bs=1M parameter does?
[22:53] <zorael> Is pepperflashplugin-nonfree broken in 16.10 multiverse? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23372126/
[22:54] <needssomehelp> or in general the command's structure
[22:54] <Ben64> needssomehelp: from "man dd" bs=BYTES              read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time
[22:56] <needssomehelp> Ben64, ok. Why do you think 1M bytes at a time is a good option?
[22:56] <th0r> needssomehelp, if you are writing small files and set bs=1M, each file will tie up 1MB on the drive.
[22:56] <th0r> needssomehelp, on the other hand, if you are writing files that are 1GB each, a bs of 1M will speed things up considerably
[22:57] <needssomehelp> th0r, 1G?
[22:57] <Ben64> needssomehelp: writes 1MB at a time, good for most drives
[22:57] <th0r> needssomehelp, large files
[22:57] <needssomehelp> oh ok
[23:06] <porcupine97> Ben64, I was reading your posts: if=/dev/random is more effective than /dev/zero?
[23:08] <Ben64> porcupine97: no
[23:08] <lee1> Question about Acer Aspire 4520 i'm on ubuntu 16.04.1 and on kernel 4.4.0-43 and using a nvidia geforce 7000 series with the drivers 304.131. So my issue is it doesn't recognize my wifi (meaning I can't select no SSID as if it doesn't detect a wireless device) as well as my sound there none. Any help?
[23:08] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, this is the reason why the ubuntu splash screen is in low-resolution: http://www.binarytides.com/ubuntu-fix-nvidia-graphics/
[23:09] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: reading .
[23:12] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: valid instructions .. but are they effective in your situation ?
[23:15] <Caleb--> Bashing-om, i will try them out soon
[23:16] <Caleb--> i was just going through the systemd journal in search of potential problems, and some nvidia warnings led me to that page
[23:19] <bumbumzumzum> My disk's partition table is full, so I don't have room to add one for Ubuntu. Any guidance?
[23:20] <Ben64> remove something
[23:20] <Bashing-om> Caleb--: As the authod says, only tested in 14.04 (upstart) . I see no issue with the grub edit ( I use it myself ) .. but making up /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash and expecting systemd to use it; maybe a horse of a different color .
[23:21] <bumbumzumzum> Well, those partitions contain factory installed software, so I'm reluctant to remove them. For example, Windows 7 restore is on one, HP utilities is on another.
[23:22] <bumbumzumzum> I thought Wubi might be an option, but from what I've read it is unmaintained. Are there other options?
[23:22] <Ben64> get a new drive?
[23:23] <bumbumzumzum> I'm not thrilled with the idea of swapping hard drives every time I want to boot Windows though ...
[23:24] <Ben64> why would you have to swap
[23:24] <petisnnake> Hello, I'm trying to start 2 uwsgi's on system boot, so in rc.local I've put:  sudo uwsgi --ini /home/myuser/Projects/schedule/uwsgi.ini --chmod-socket=666, followed by sudo uwsgi --ini /home/myuser/Projects/schedule_staging/uwsgi.ini --chmod-socket=666 one line below. Problem is that only the first call creates a socket. Any ideas why?
[23:24] <bumbumzumzum> Because the computer is an HP notebook and only has one hard disk in it.
[23:24] <Ben64> well you have to pick an option
[23:25] <Jordan_U> bumbumzumzum: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[23:25] <petisnnake> If I swap the order, the first call creates the socket properly and the second doesnt
[23:26] <ShayBox> anyone know why my /home is randomly un-mounting or disabling read/write access...?
[23:26] <ShayBox> its a seperate HDD mounted as /home
[23:27] <gry> maybe hard drive failure, start with backing things up
[23:27] <gry> is it a usb
[23:27] <ShayBox> nah, 128gb ssd as / and 1tb hdd as /home
[23:28] <bigpresh> That in no way precludes impending drive failure.
[23:28] <bigpresh> Anything interesting in syslog/dmesg when it happens?
[23:28] <lordcirth_> ShayBox, look at 'dmesg' output when it fails
[23:28] <ShayBox> Both Sata II (6)
[23:29] <lordcirth_> '-o remount,ro' is the standard response to a critical filesystem failure
[23:29] <ShayBox> alright, its not failed right now, it just happens randomly and kde will close because of it
[23:29] <bumbumzumzum> Jordan_U: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23372224
[23:30] <Ben64> ShayBox: that happens when there's a problem
[23:33] <ShayBox> smartctl shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/23372239/ right now
[23:33] <ShayBox> any of that bad?
[23:35] <rocket__> hmm how to speed up graphics in virtual box?
[23:35] <lordcirth_> ShayBox, nothing obvious
[23:35] <lordcirth_> rocket__, there's a checkbox for 3D accel
[23:36] <rocket__> ok
[23:36] <rocket__> 3d
[23:36] <lordcirth_> Other than that, I usually use light DE's or WM's in Vbox
[23:37] <rocket__> #ubuntu
[23:37] <rocket__> re
[23:37] <rocket__> works well
[23:37] <rocket__> thanks
[23:37] <rocket__> now im done
[23:37] <rocket__> nice i like ubuntu
[23:37] <rocket__> the design looks good
[23:40] <rocket__> virtual spaces
[23:40] <rocket__> dont work
[23:40] <rocket__> really
[23:40] <rocket__> will deactivate them
[23:40] <rocket__> seems to be pretty buggy
[23:40] <Ben64> do you have a support question?
[23:40] <rocket__> it hangs
[23:44] <rocket__> Ben64, i think its some vm stuff
[23:44] <rocket__> it hangs sometimes
[23:47] <bumbumzumzum> Ben64: I appreciate that I may end up forced to delete a partition. I just want to know what other options exist before I resort to something so extreme.
[23:47] <Ben64> bum
[23:47] <Ben64> bumbumzumzum: extreme?
[23:48] <bumbumzumzum> Deleting Windows or the utility software installed at the factory would qualify as "extreme" IMHO, yes.
[23:49] <rocket__> another question
[23:49] <rocket__> is it hard to use qemu and gpu pass on nvidia
[23:49] <Ben64> bumbumzumzum: could back up the 4th partition and then delete
[23:53] <bumbumzumzum> Ben64: Why would you have me delete /dev/sda4 instead of one of the partitions adjacent to the largest partition?
[23:55] <bumbumzumzum> Ben64: I don't think 100MB is enough space for an Ubuntu install.
[23:56] <Ben64> you can resize the other stuff
[23:57] <gry> use a disk usage analyzer to remove files you don't need
[23:57] <gry> windirstat for windows, ncdu for linux
[23:57] <bumbumzumzum> gry:  That doesn't solve the problem of the partition table being full.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> bumbumzumzum: Reason why there is that 4 primary partition limit : https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader .
[23:58] <gry> oh, sorry, I didn't know of that limit :) thanks for the link
[23:58] <DFarmerTX> Wait, can't you just put all of Ubuntu under a single extended partition?
[23:59] <bumbumzumzum> DFarmerTX: I don't have room in the partition table for an extended partition. I'd have to delete a primary partition first.


[10:31] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  I think it is time to simply drop virtualbox-guest-dkms and virtualbox-guest-source from the virtualbox & virtualbox-hwe packages. Since all of the kernel modules they provide, are available from the vanilla kernels, and have been for a long time. I.e. debian testing, ubuntu focal have them. Thus the ones from the virtualbox dkms package are not used.
[10:31] <xnox> i.e. something like: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/544986016/virtualbox_6.1.22-dfsg-1_6.1.22-dfsg-1ubuntu1.diff.gz which has been test built in my PPA
[10:32] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  would you be unboard with that? is there any value to still have dkms modules from the virtualbox package?
[10:32] <ogra> "unboard" ... thats like schroedingers onboard ?
[10:35] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  i.e. they have been available since v4.15 so Debian stable & Ubuntu bionic and up.
[12:12] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, this is something I thought already lots of time
[12:12] <LocutusOfBorg> would be nice to do it, if we are sure the vanilla version is stable enough, something that didn't happen in the past
[12:12] <LocutusOfBorg> with Debian providing them, and Ubuntu too, this is a rational choice
[12:13] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  then i shall send the patch to debian bts for the maintainer to consider. vanilla version is more stable as far as i can tell. At least in the recent years.
[12:13] <LocutusOfBorg> will also probably allow us to drop virtualbox-hwe package
[12:13] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, no need to open a bug, I can just apply the patch on git and upload
[12:13] <xnox> and the vanilla one is the one we have been using in all ubuntu provided virtualbox images
[12:14] <LocutusOfBorg> but we might consider keeping the binaries around until recent kernels are available on all lts
[12:14] <xnox> (vgrant boxes, etc)
[12:14] <LocutusOfBorg> this is good to hear
[12:14] <LocutusOfBorg> no need for guest-dkms at all then?
[12:14] <xnox> correct, not even in bionic.
[12:14] <LocutusOfBorg> I admit I have received feedbacks of resize screen issues that were fixed with guest-dkms tools
[12:14] <LocutusOfBorg> this is why I kept them around
[12:15] <xnox> imho we should drop guest-sources & guest-dkms from both virtualbox and virtualbox-hwe
[12:15] <xnox> we need the guest-tools package
[12:15] <xnox> it just needs not to depend on the guest-dkms anymore, as the kernel modules are implied.
[12:15] <xnox> and if i am wrong, i will eat my own words and fix all the things =)
[12:18] <LocutusOfBorg> virtualbox-hwe exists *just* because of guest tools
[12:18] <LocutusOfBorg> so virtualbox-hwe stuff can be just provided by main src:virtualbox for a couple of years, and then dropped
[12:19] <LocutusOfBorg> mmm virtualbox-guest-x11 still need to be around :/
[12:19] <LocutusOfBorg> sad
[12:19] <LocutusOfBorg> this is the main reason for virtualbox-hwe existance
[12:19] <LocutusOfBorg> because of newer xorg and runtime deps
[12:21] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  yeah, i think we still need to ship all the new userspace bits and bobs like guest-x11 etc.
[12:22] <LocutusOfBorg> :/
[12:22] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  so we are only dropping guest-dkms guest-source, but otherwise we are keeping src:virtualbox src:virtualbox-hwe etc.
[12:23] <LocutusOfBorg> sadly to know kernel folks can't provide udev rules for the guest-x11 startup things
[12:23] <LocutusOfBorg> :(
[12:23] <LocutusOfBorg> also Debian has such issue
[12:37] <xnox> src:linux is providing udev rules for a few things already.
[12:38] <xnox> for example see https://packages.debian.org/unstable/hyperv-daemons shipped by src:linux in debian
[12:39] <xnox> it has init.d scripts, systemd service, daemons, and a udev rule. They do simple small things, whenever special hyperv device is plugged in.
[12:39] <xnox> in ubuntu src:linux also ships it, but it is called different.
[14:38] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  i think we can kill udev rules by patching kernel driver to do that.
[14:38] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg:  but not other user space utils.
[14:57] <seb128> bdmurray, hey, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-notifier/+git/update-notifier/+merge/404404 when you have some free cycles?
[15:00] <bdmurray> seb128: I'm out this afternoon and tomorrow so may not get to it until next week
[15:00] <seb128> bdmurray, no hurry, next weeks is fine, enjoy the long weekend!
[15:59] <laney> laney@raleigh> syncpackage -d experimental bijiben
[15:59] <laney> The source package 'bijiben' status Superseded not in (Pending,Published) in experimental for pockets Release, Security, Updates, Proposed with status in Pending, Published
[15:59] <laney> what a message
[21:58] <jawn-smith> doko: fwupd has a flashrom plugin that is enabled in Debian, but not enabled in Ubuntu because flashrom is in universe. In order to get fwupd back in sync with Debian we will need flashrom in main, and to make it a runtime dependency of fwupd
[22:00] <sarnold> jawn-smith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashrom/+bug/1912371
[22:00] <sarnold> oh heh, you're on that bug :) sorry