[00:00] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: back
[00:01] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I'm wondering if the problem is caused by a failed kernel update, or corruption, or a combination.
[00:02] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: lets try forcing the wifi driver to load and see what errors we get. "sudo modprobe iwlwifi"
[00:02] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: I have to boot back into the computer. sorry. give me a second
[00:03] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK :)
[00:04] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: a bunch of errors in response
[00:04] <TJ-> daftykins: whilst amazoniantoad is busy... did you notice this PC has a RealTek 8168 that is being driven by the 8169 driver? That might explain why the Ethernet port won't work; common issue where it needs the out-of-tree RealTek 8168 driver building
[00:04] <amazoniantoad> The it says it cannot insert iwlwifi
[00:05] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Good. At least we know there's a problem. As you can't pastebin, can you give us a gist of what the errors are indicating (file not found, symbol not found, )
[00:06] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: could not open moddep file /lib/modules/3...stuffinhere-generic/modules.dep.bin
[00:06] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Oh that one again! This is easy!
[00:07] <amazoniantoad> Does that for 3 lines then tells me that kmod_module_insert_module() coult not find module by name='iwlwifi'
[00:07] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo depmod -a"
[00:07] <daftykins> TJ-: nah never got that far yesterday, i was beginning to suspect disk issues though given how many quirks there were - plus that failed depmod to begin with, now this
[00:07] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: done
[00:07] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo modprobe iwlwifi"
[00:07] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: okay
[00:07] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "nmcli con ip id "XXXXX - your wifi - XXXX "
[00:07] <TJ-> s/ip/up/
[00:08] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: how do I bring them up again?
[00:08] <amazoniantoad> The wifi list.
[00:08] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "nmcli con"
[00:09] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: Error: 'con' command 'ip' is not valid
[00:09] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: yes, I corrected my typo. It's "up" not "ip"
[00:09] <amazoniantoad> ah
[00:09] <amazoniantoad> sorry
[00:09] <TJ-> :)
[00:10] <amazoniantoad> I guess it's connecting now
[00:10] <amazoniantoad> Woooo
[00:10] <amazoniantoad> I think it worked
[00:10] <amazoniantoad> Ping is going at it
[00:10] <TJ-> Finally :)
[00:11] <amazoniantoad> ikr?
[00:11] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK, so now you can try to start the GUI... it'll fail, we can pastebin logs!
[00:11] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: you know how to switch to/from the GUI virtual terminal (VT) with Ctrl+Alt+F1 / Alt+F7 ?
[00:11] <amazoniantoad> startx
[00:11] <amazoniantoad> ?
[00:12] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: no, now do "sudo service lightdm start"
[00:12] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: at login screen
[00:12] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: try to log-in. It'll fail (we think), if so, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get back to the text console on tty1
[00:12] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: at that point we can look at the logs and figure out what's wrong
[00:12] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: it failed and now what
[00:13] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:13] <daftykins> never startx in ubuntu land :)
[00:14] <DosTuMai> startx is bad, mmkay?
[00:14] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628239/
[00:14] <bindi> startx bad? i found it useful
[00:14] <bindi> for starting on another tty
[00:14] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Good, there are no GPU driver issues.
[00:15] <daftykins> bindi: well unsurprisingly when you change the context of the usage, you get different results
[00:15] <bindi> < daftykins> never startx
[00:15] <bindi> pretty harsh criteria :P
[00:15] <daftykins> yeah which given the context at the time was fair
[00:16] <bindi> right
[00:16] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "pastebinit <( ls -al $HOME/.Xauthority; cat $HOME/.xsession-errors )"
[00:17] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/12628256/
[00:17] <TJ-> bindi: even /usr/bin/startx starts off with "# Site administrators are STRONGLY urged to write nicer versions."
[00:18] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: this looks bad "libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied"
[00:19] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: No bueno
[00:19] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "pastebinit <( ls -al /dev/dri/ )"
[00:20] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628295/
[00:20] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I meant to ask you; do you have a 2nd PC from which you can SSH into this one to make copy/paste of commands/URLs easier?
[00:21]  * amazoniantoad dope
[00:21] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: interesting! I was expecting that to show ownership root:video
[00:21] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: Of course I can
[00:21] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I was just thinking now the PC has network it would make things easier for you
[00:22] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: I'm kind of taking an ipod apart too...replacing its ssd with an sd card haha
[00:22] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: might as well
[00:22] <amazoniantoad> hold on
[00:22] <daftykins> that sounds like a distinct downgrade :)
[00:22] <TJ-> daftykins: I don't suppose you have a Linux box with an Intel GPU there, do you, to compare against?
[00:22] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: but it's cooler. I had a cleaning lady come in that I fired...she was back one day and broke another thing
[00:22] <daftykins> not any vaguely recent intel, nah
[00:22] <amazoniantoad> My 180 GB ipod
[00:23] <amazoniantoad> That I have had since like...7th grade
[00:23] <TJ-> I only have nvidia here and they may be different, I see  (on 15.04) "crw-rw----+  1 root video 226, 0 Sep 25 21:29 card0"
[00:23]  * daftykins isn't familiar with the US school system
[00:23] <TJ-> daftykins: 5+7 :)
[00:23] <daftykins> where'd 5 come from?
[00:24] <daftykins> so i have a xubuntu machine downstairs on a very old intel setup, would that be of any use?
[00:25] <TJ-> daftykins: the starting school age, + the number of years of schooling (grade)
[00:25] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: I have had it for over a decade
[00:26] <daftykins> :)
[00:26] <amazoniantoad> The lady comes back and BREAKS IT seriously...within 4 hours of working she breaks something
[00:26] <TJ-> daftykins: probably not, I think this is the root cause so I'm going to try forcing it to :video for now
[00:26] <daftykins> well she cleaned it :D
[00:26] <DosTuMai> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628334/
[00:26] <amazoniantoad> She breaks things all of the time, daftykins
[00:26] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: does "groups" report "video" as one membership of your user?
[00:26] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: how do I check that?
[00:26] <TJ-> DosTuMai: thank-you very much; that is very useful
[00:27] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "groups"
[00:27] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: no
[00:27] <DosTuMai> =]
[00:27] <TJ-> DosTuMai: ... does "groups" report 'video' for you ?
[00:28] <DosTuMai> No.
[00:28] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: what does "id -u" report ?
[00:28] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: 1000
[00:28] <TJ-> DosTuMai: very strange; I think I'm more confused now than when I was ignorant :)
[00:29] <DosTuMai> TJ-: It's an Acer laptop, of course it wont return the expected results...
[00:29] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK... let's try this anyhow! "sudo chown :video /dev/dri/*" then "ls -l /dev/dri/" and check you see "root video" as ownership
[00:29] <TJ-> DosTuMai: don't get me started on Acer!
[00:30] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: assuming you do see video there, do "sudo service lightdm restart" and try to log-in again at the GUI greeter
[00:30] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: card0 and controlID64
[00:30] <amazoniantoad> oh wait
[00:30] <amazoniantoad> Wrong thing
[00:31] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: crw------- 1 root video 226, 0 Sep 30 19:30 card0 same thing for controlD64 except replace 0 with 64
[00:31] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: we want the ownership user group names to be 'root video'
[00:31] <TJ-> amazoniantoad:  do "sudo service lightdm restart" and try to log-in again at the GUI greeter
[00:32] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: crashed
[00:32] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: the same way as before?
[00:32] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: yes
[00:33] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK: "pastebinit <( cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log; cat $HOME/.xsession-errors )"
[00:34] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http//paste.ubuntu.com/12628413/
[00:35] <amazoniantoad> It's like Apple wants your ipod to break
[00:35] <amazoniantoad> There is no protection for the hard drive
[00:35] <amazoniantoad> MY IPODS HARD DRIVE IS TAPED TOGETHER
[00:35] <amazoniantoad> wttfffff
[00:36] <amazoniantoad> Why in the world would they wrap a hard drive in scotch tape?
[00:36] <DosTuMai> amazoniantoad: They all are. It's standard practice in my experience.
[00:36] <daftykins> lets try and stay on topic here
[00:36] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: sorry
[00:36] <daftykins> also, pics plz
[00:37] <amazoniantoad> haha
[00:37] <skynetguy> EriC^^, hey you there
[00:37] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK, that shows that .xsession-errors is a fresh log, and the key problem again is "libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied" - let's see if something changed the dri ownership under us. "pastebinit <( ls -la /dev/dri/ )"
[00:38] <skynetguy> Can anybody tell me what shuts off when i click Suspend
[00:38] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: wrapping is a cheap but effective form of shock absorber
[00:38] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628450/
[00:38] <TJ-> skynetguy: Suspend maintains power to the contents of RAM but powers everything else off
[00:38] <skynetguy> TJ-, so does the video card shut off as well
[00:39] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: aha! I missed one thing. DosTuMai output has the group with read/write permission and I didn't tell you to set that. "sudo chmod g+rw /dev/dri/*"
[00:40] <TJ-> skynetguy: all power is removed except for RAM and 5V standby for wake-up from USB devices, etc., if configured in the firmware/BIOS setup
[00:40] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: okay. done
[00:40] <skynetguy> TJ-, ok
[00:40] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo service lightdm restart" ... you know the drill by now :)
[00:41] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: it crashed to the login
[00:41] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: once again: "pastebinit <( cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log; cat $HOME/.xsession-errors )"
[00:41] <seungmin> hi ther
[00:42] <seungmin> hi tere
[00:42] <seungmin> hi there
[00:42] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628500/
[00:42] <DosTuMai> Dehiao~
[00:43] <wakeatnight> so i still have the problem with my screen turning pink/artifacts when using the open source radeon driver sometimes
[00:44] <wakeatnight> does anyone have an idea how to fix that?
[00:44] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: this is getting silly! can you "pastebinit <( ls -al /dev/dri/ )" again please?
[00:44] <daftykins> must be that it's a sony :)
[00:45] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628524/
[00:45] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: this is definitely a 14.04 system? "lsb_release -a" ?
[00:46] <DosTuMai> It's that or an Acer, Daftykins...
[00:46] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: yes
[00:46] <amazoniantoad> 14.04.3 LTS
[00:46] <daftykins> trusty with the vivid HWE
[00:46] <seungmin> do u run the ubuntu studio?
[00:46] <seungmin> anyone?
[00:46] <amazoniantoad> Never tried it
[00:46] <amazoniantoad> I should though
[00:47] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I have a bug report that is identical, with a trusty host, but is marked as a duplicate of a bug that is fixed in Vivid and is related to systemd - which trusty isn't using! bug 1302270
[00:47] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: daftykins: bingo!
[00:47] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: daftykins could it be the Vivid HWE doing this?
[00:47] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: so wait...what's happening?
[00:48] <daftykins> TJ-: i was half pondering that this being a sony duo 11 thingy or whatever means it might be happier on the latest and greatest
[00:48] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: if you look at the bug report I just linked, the reporter is using Trusty, and shows the same errors you have in xsession-errors
[00:48] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: in fact, they have the same kernel version as you, as well
[00:49] <seungmin> is there any thinkpad user?
[00:49] <DosTuMai> Latest & greatest meaning Win10.
[00:49] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: and the reporter is a core ubuntu developer too, so knows what they're doing
[00:49] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: Man I know how to get a bug eh?
[00:49] <daftykins> seungmin: proper support questions are best asked, rather than "does anyone" or similar.
[00:49] <amazoniantoad> Only me
[00:49] <daftykins> amazoniantoad: woohoo
[00:49] <amazoniantoad> This crap only happens with me. If it were anyone else the bug wouldn't exist lol
[00:50] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: AND interestingly, Jamie also reports his user lost membership of "video" group!
[00:50] <daftykins> hehe
[00:50] <amazoniantoad> haha
[00:50] <daftykins> this is the trouble with new gear
[00:50] <daftykins> at least, i think that thing you're using is relatively new
[00:50] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: it's two years old though...maybe 4
[00:50] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo adduser <your-user-name> video"
[00:51] <daftykins> hardware wise though
[00:51] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: done
[00:51] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: ah
[00:51] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo service lightdm restart"
[00:51] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: crashed.
[00:51] <daftykins> ok i gotta bail, TJ- nice work as always :) \o
[00:51] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: comment #6 in that bug report also confirms my earlier suspicion this is caused by udev
[00:52] <TJ-> daftykins: g'night
[00:52] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: that could be because you already have a login, though it ought not be. Do "sudo service lightdm stop" then "exit" to log-out the tty, then log back in... and do "groups" and check you see 'video' in the list
[00:53] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: if you're on SSH, do the 'exit' on the physical tty1 console
[00:53] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: new group memberships only take effect at log-in so you have to log-out all sessions to get it to work
[00:53] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: video exists now
[00:54] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK... "sudo service lightdm start"
[00:54] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: crashed
[00:55] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: oooo! I've been giving you the wrong target to chown on I think! hang on, let me check the pastebins
[00:55] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: okay lol
[00:55] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I'm too tired for my own good! "sudo chown :video /dev/dri" (note no trailing /)!!!
[00:56] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo service lightdm restart"
[00:56] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: crashed lol
[00:57] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: but maybe for a different reason (hopes!) "pastebinit $HOME/.xsession-errors"
[00:58] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628709/
[00:58] <ghostmediapro> is there a sendmail channel as i'm having a smaill issue
[00:59] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: to give you some background on the underlying cause here. Trusty doesn't use the Systemd init system but it does use systemd-logind to handle log-ins. Apparently there was a regression introduced in that package that causes this due to a 'race' condition. That means it doesn't affect everyone, and could be intermittent.
[00:59] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: I see
[00:59] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: YAY! no complaints from libGL now :)
[00:59] <amazoniantoad> hahaha
[01:00] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Can you test a Guest login please?
[01:00] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: one second
[01:00] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: it crashed
[01:00] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: and now
[01:00] <amazoniantoad> okay now it did something else
[01:01] <amazoniantoad> So I clicked on login for the gues session...the background dissapeared and then froze...then it turned blue and then went back to the login
[01:01] <ghostmediapro>  cannot open `/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4': No such file or directory
[01:02] <ghostmediapro> /usr/share/sendmail exist
[01:02] <ghostmediapro> but not sendmail-cf
[01:02] <ghostmediapro> a dir of cf exist inside sendmail
[01:03] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: different! "pastebinit <( apt-cache policy systemd-services )"
[01:03] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628779/
[01:04] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo pastebinit /var/log/auth.log"
[01:05] <amazoniantoad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628791/
[01:05] <DosTuMai> ghostmediapro: You need install "sendmail-cf"
[01:07] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I'm checking a few things out on a 14.04 system here, bear with me
[01:07] <amazoniantoad> TJ
[01:07] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: I'm in it for the long haul
[01:09] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: from auth.log I *think* the key here is "Nostromo gnome-keyring-daemon[3716]: g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting."
[01:10] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: weird
[01:10] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "Remote peer vanished with error" suggests another process crashed which was expected to talk to that process
[01:11] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "pastebinit <( ls -latr /var/log/lightdm/ )"
[01:12] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628853/
[01:13] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I've seen reports that suggest changes to ownership of dirs/files in $HOME can cause this, aside from the well-known $HOME/.Xauthority. Can you show "pastebinit <( ls -altr $HOME )"
[01:14] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628867/
[01:15] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: lines 18-19!
[01:15] <amazoniantoad> I'm thinking of install ubuntu touch on my ipod touch...
[01:16] <amazoniantoad> wait let me look
[01:16] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: so we change those to jr?
[01:16] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo chown -R jr:jr $HOME/.dbus $HOME/.gvfs"
[01:16] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: then check them with "ls -da $HOME/.dbus $HOME/.gvfs"
[01:17] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: then try to log-in at the GUI again.
[01:18] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: Well it didn't work but it didn't freak out like before.
[01:18] <amazoniantoad> Not as much anyhow
[01:18] <nrdb> ubuntu ltsp desn't use LDM now!  .... this is a problem can it be enabled?
[01:18] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK... "pastebinit $HOME/.xsession-errors"
[01:19] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628910/
[01:20] <ghostmediapro> it says its already installed
[01:21] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "find $HOME ! -user jr -ls | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[01:21] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: going for a coffee!
[01:23] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628925/
[01:27] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Only downloads so not vital :)
[01:27] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: yeah
[01:28] <dman777> hmm... i installed virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu in root, but it's only available in root. isn't it supposed to be available in non root also? for instance, there is no workon command
[01:29] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: let's see if anything different is in the auth log: "sudo pastebinit /var/log/auth.log"
[01:30] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628959/
[01:30] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I think we should also make sure every package is up to date; the kernel is many versions behind so we should figure out why that is
[01:30] <DosTuMai> ghostmediapro: Do you have the M4 package installed?
[01:30] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: k
[01:31] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: woa! that auth.log hasn't changed since last time
[01:31] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: so that's good?
[01:31] <amazoniantoad> right?
[01:31] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: what is the local time on that pc right now: "date"
[01:31] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: Wed Sep 30 20:31:35 CDT 2015
[01:31] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: no, bad, we tried a log-in since last time we looked and that isn't recorded
[01:32] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: blimey, no wonder! the last log entries are 14:37
[01:32] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: something is very wrong
[01:32] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: This is making my brain melt
[01:32] <amazoniantoad> lol
[01:32] <badcom> Which MySQL GUI tool do you guys use on Ubuntu?
[01:32] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: How do you think mine feels?!
[01:33] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: at least yours is useful!
[01:33] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK, lets check out why the kernel wasn't upgraded and then get the system updated
[01:33] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: I'm trying to keep up and understand while realizing my computer is a hunk of crap
[01:34] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "pastebinit <( apt list linux* | grep installed )"
[01:34] <wakeatnight> will xset dpms 0 900 1200 put the computer to sleep or _just_ the monitor?
[01:35] <wakeatnight> will my wifi run still?
[01:35] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: it's doing pretty well with everything we're throwing at it!
[01:35] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628997/
[01:35] <TJ-> wakeatnight: DPMS is the monitor Display Power Management Signalling
[01:36] <wakeatnight> TJ-: so everything on the pc will still be running?
[01:36] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: what does "uname -r" tell you?
[01:36] <TJ-> wakeatnight: Yes
[01:36] <dman777> woe....non root users don't source the /etc/bash.bashrc anymore?
[01:36] <wakeatnight> i find it strange that a display would have a standby and suspend time...
[01:36] <wakeatnight> ok thankyou TJ-
[01:37] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: 3.13.0-44-generic
[01:37] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK, now we're getting somewhere. It has all the most recent kernel updates to -65 but the system is still booting to -44
[01:37] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[01:38] <amazoniantoad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629015/
[01:39] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: weird. No GRUB updates have been done since -44 kernel!
[01:39] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: but why?
[01:39] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo update-grub" and then "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg" again
[01:39] <arooni> hey everyone ;  just upgraded from ubuntu 12.04 => 14.04... now i'd like to install nginx from ubuntu's package.  i think i installed nginx from source... can i just install the nginx package on ubuntu over the existing installation?  or do i need to do something in between?  i'm not sure where nginx is located ... /usr/local/nginx doesnt exist ...
[01:40] <TJ-> arooni: "which nginx" might help
[01:40] <arooni> nothing is returned TJ-
[01:40] <arooni> though i do have a /opt/nginx  directory
[01:40] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629018/
[01:41] <arooni> TJ-, looks like its just config; but not any binaries
[01:41] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: it didn't update!
[01:41] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: it said it did
[01:41] <amazoniantoad> I mean, when I ran the update command
[01:41] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: but the first entry is still the -44 kernel
[01:41] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: :/
[01:41] <liquidsnake> hello all
[01:41] <liquidsnake> how goes it
[01:41] <Mirodroid> o/
[01:41] <DosTuMai> Rockin'.
[01:42] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: let's check if there's some config preventing it. "pastebinit /etc/default/grub"
[01:42] <liquidsnake> awesome
[01:42]  * Mirodroid is still trying to figgure out how to get TWIN compiled correctly under ubuntu
[01:43] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629022/
[01:43] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "pastebinit <( ls -altr /etc/grub.d/ )"
[01:45] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629025/
[01:45] <ghostmediapro> DosTuMai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629028/
[01:45] <ghostmediapro> how to install m4 if its not
[01:45] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: brb I need to get something to drink
[01:46] <fathom> Howdy, I just bought a new graphics card for my computer. Do I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[01:46] <Ben64> no
[01:46] <fathom> I plugged in the monitor to the card, the screen is blank
[01:46] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK :)
[01:47] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: back
[01:47] <TJ-> fathom: does the video card have more than one connector on it? You possibly didn't plug into the "primary" output
[01:47] <Ben64> fathom: what card, did you see anything at any point
[01:47] <fathom> I got a radeon r7240
[01:48] <fathom> r7-240
[01:48] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Something weird about that system. It's almost as if it isn't always showing us the latest files. Before I dig too far into the grub thing lets check the timestamp on the file, update it, and check the timestamp after to make sure it has changed. "ls -l /boot/grub/grub.cfg" then "sudo update-grub" then "ls -l /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and compare the timestamps to make sure it updated
[01:49] <cheapie> fathom: A lot of BIOSes have an "initialize video first" option that needs to be sot to PCIe, as otherwise, it'll just use integrated.
[01:49] <fathom> cheapie, Ahh, I have to set it up at BIOS
[01:50] <cheapie> fathom: Also, you put the card in the computer in addition to plugging the monitor into the card, right?
[01:50] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: timestamps are different
[01:50] <johnny_linux> lol
[01:50] <fathom> I have an AMD A8 7600 APU to enable crossfire technology
[01:50] <fathom> Yeah, the acrd is in the machine
[01:50] <fathom> card is in the machine, tight and secure
[01:50] <cheapie> Probably just needs the BIOS tweaking then.
[01:50] <DosTuMai> ghostmediapro: "wget ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/m4/m4-1.4.10.tar.gz"
[01:51] <orpheus> Trying to install a local LAMP server, can't ssh in as root because I don't know the default password.  Any suggestions?
[01:51] <johnny_linux> go to the bios and make sure its turned on fathom
[01:51] <fathom> Okie doke. Thank you very much, will reboot and fiddle
[01:51] <cheapie> (I'm assuming you don't even get any POST messagos on the screen)
[01:51] <cheapie> messages*
[01:51] <fathom> cheapie, The screen is blank
[01:51] <fathom> nadda
[01:51] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: right, now just see if the latest kernel was added "grep '3.13.0-65' /boot/grub/grub.cfg" - if you get no result it didn't update
[01:51] <DosTuMai> ghostmediapro: Do you know how to extract files from packages?
[01:52] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: no result :/
[01:52] <liquidsnake> hello
[01:53] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: so update-grub didn't. let's ensure there are initial ramdisk images for each kernel  - that can cause GRUB not to add entries. "pastebinit <( ls -latr /boot/ )"
[01:53] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629062/
[01:54] <ghostmediapro> DosTuMai: kinda
[01:55] <orpheus> How do I get root privileges on a LAMP server I just set up?
[01:55] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: ok, something is seriously freaky here. That only shows the -44 kernel but we saw earlier many more kernels installed. This is an encrypted system isn't it? That means there is supposed to be a /boot/ file-system outside the root file-system. show me "pastebinit <( cat /etc/fstab /etc/crypttab; mount )"
[01:55] <DosTuMai> ghostmediapro: Oki, it's loads of fun - read stress for newbies. Once it's downloaded, "tar -xvzf m4-1.4.10.tar.gz
[01:55] <Ben64> orpheus: explain what you mean
[01:56] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629070/
[01:56] <ghostmediapro> DosTuMai: checked its already installed
[01:57] <ghostmediapro> did you see the errors in the pastebin
[01:57] <orpheus> Ben64:  I just installed apache, mysql, and php.  Now I'm trying to ssh in as per this guide, and I don't have the password.
[01:57] <orpheus> Ben64: This is the guide: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/initial-server-setup-with-ubuntu-12-04
[01:57] <Ben64> orpheus: use the username and password you set up when you installed
[01:57] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: You've got a time machine there :)
[01:57] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: hahaha why do you say that?
[01:58] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: everything in that latest pastebin is OK; which means somehow the linux kernel packages have been installed but something has erased the kernel images from /boot/
[01:58] <orpheus> Ben64: I only set up a password, and that's not working.  How can I reset that, then?
[01:58] <DosTuMai> ghostmediapro: Oh, hmmm. Yes, only time I've heard the problem is missing packages. Let me work some google-fu.
[01:59] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: combined with the auth.log not advancing since afternoon...!
[01:59] <Ben64> orpheus: set up a password for what
[02:00] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: let's try a trick I know. "sudo mkdir /target && sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /target" then "pastebinit <( ls -altr /target/boot/ )"
[02:00] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: we're trying to find out if the kernel images got installed into the root file-system because the /boot/ file-system wasn't mounted.
[02:00] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: when /dev/sda1 mounts at /boot/ it will hide any files/directories that are in the parent file-system
[02:01] <orpheus> Ben 64: When I installed mysql, I set up a root password.  That's not working when I try "ssh root@" the IP address.
[02:01] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: so if /dev/sda1 wasn't mounted for some reason the files would be written into the root file-system
[02:01] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629086/
[02:01] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: ah
[02:01] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Not that either! empty, as it should be! More and more spooky
[02:01] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: hahaha
[02:02] <amazoniantoad> spo0o0oky
[02:02]  * TJ- kicks himself HARD
[02:02] <Ben64> orpheus: mysql root password is not the ssh root password
[02:02] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: the pastebin that listed the linux* packages... I'm so tired I didn't notice there are no linux-image packages *only* linux-headers!!!!
[02:02] <orpheus> Ben64: How do I change the ssh root password?
[02:03] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: -headers only contain files needed to build packages against the kernel
[02:03] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12628997/
[02:03] <Ben64> orpheus: "passwd" but you should use a user account and sudo, having root ssh open isn't a good idea
[02:03] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: ah
[02:03] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo apt-get install linux-generic"
[02:04] <amazoniantoad> running now
[02:04] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: whilst we're there we'll delete all those unwanted -headers packages; they take up space for no good reason
[02:04] <orpheus> Ben64:  I'm new at this.  How do I set up a user account and sudo?
[02:04] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: k
[02:05] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: install ubuntu touch on an ipod touch, yay or nay?
[02:05] <Ben64> orpheus: log in, "adduser username" "adduser username sudo" now you should be able to log in as username
[02:05] <amazoniantoad> I have my ipod classic that is going to get linux on it...but I was thinking while I was at it
[02:05] <amazoniantoad> haha
[02:05] <amazoniantoad> I have to replace the hard drive on the ipod classic
[02:06] <orpheus> Ben64: How do I log in?
[02:06] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: "sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.13.0-{35,36,39,43,49,51,52,54,55,57}"
[02:06] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: still installing
[02:06] <Ben64> orpheus: ssh
[02:06] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: OK, use that command once the current command completes
[02:07] <orpheus> Ben64:  That's where I'm stuck.  How do I ssh if I don't know the password?
[02:07] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: done
[02:08] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: somehow, the linux-image-generic package was removed which stopped the kernel images being updated, but the linux-headers-generic remained so the -headers were updated
[02:08] <Ben64> orpheus: you must have logged in before, do it again
[02:08] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: now do "sudo apt-get autoremove" to clean up any unreference packages
[02:08] <amazoniantoad> done
[02:09] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Let's check -65 is in grub.cfg: "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[02:09] <orpheus> Ben64:  So I run "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:10] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629113/
[02:10] <Ben64> orpheus: if thats how you did it before, yep
[02:11] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: that's better! "linux /vmlinuz-3.13.0-65-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff"
[02:11] <orpheus> Ben64: I don't think I did it before.  I had run ssh for the first time, and got that password message.  Can I reset the password?
[02:12] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I think you should reboot it now, lets make sure its using those updates they might fix something
[02:12] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: do I enter that in?
[02:12] <amazoniantoad> okay
[02:12] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: amazoniantoad no, I was quoting the GOOD line in grub.cfg I was hoping to see :)
[02:12] <Ben64> orpheus: you said you installed mysql and stuff, how did you accomplish that without ever using ssh
[02:12] <dman777> anyone use postgres? I installed it successfully but the executable is missing
[02:12] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: ah.
[02:12] <amazoniantoad> OMG
[02:12] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: ITS BACK
[02:13] <amazoniantoad> EVERYTHING IS BACK
[02:13] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: really?
[02:13] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: that was a fast boot!
[02:13] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: YESSSSS
[02:13] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: omg ahh
[02:13] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: thank you thank you thank you!
[02:13] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: LOL thank the flipping Gods for that!!!!
[02:13] <amazoniantoad> hahaha
[02:13] <amazoniantoad> omg
[02:13] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: party time! Only took us, what, 5 hours?
[02:14] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: not that long really
[02:14] <orpheus> Ben64: apt-get install.  Set a root password for mysql in the process of install, but nothing for ssh.
[02:14] <amazoniantoad> lol
[02:14] <mianna>   hi
[02:14] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I think that's the biggest collection of pastebins I've ever collected :)
[02:14] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: haha
[02:14] <amazoniantoad> Certainly the longest #ubuntu session I've had
[02:14] <Bashing-om> TJ-: amazoniantoad :: As I too live and learn . Who else would have thunk it !
[02:14] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: *PHEW* *relaxes*
[02:15] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om: haha
[02:15] <Ben64> orpheus: how did you get to use apt-get
[02:15] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I swear people like amazoniantoad only come in here to test me!
[02:15] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: Yeah I can certainly relax now. I have about 3 active projects on this computer
[02:15] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: backups!
[02:16] <Bashing-om> TJ-: :) Just proves you are in amongst the best .
[02:16] <DosTuMai> Always backup!
[02:16] <orpheus> Ben64: sudo.  But that password isn't working for ssh either.
[02:16] <Ben64> orpheus: how did you get to use sudo
[02:16] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I've just closed about 20 pastebin pages :)
[02:16] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: funny about backups...I had a cloud server I made and one day it crashed, HDD's had failed...and my laptop crashed at the same time...locked out of the hd
[02:16] <amazoniantoad> haha
[02:16] <SparkMasterTape> Can someone please help me get a dated soundcard operational?
[02:16] <orpheus> Ben64: sudo apt-get.
[02:17] <amazoniantoad> Lost absolutely everything
[02:17] <Ben64> orpheus: right, but how did you get to the point where you can type that
[02:17] <SparkMasterTape> I have the necessary information regarding the hardware , just need some guidance in the terminal.
[02:17] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: raid 0 config....I was selfish about the space
[02:17] <orpheus> Ben64:  Running the terminal.
[02:17] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I have RAID-1 disks in backup systems
[02:17] <Ben64> orpheus: then you're logged in already
[02:17] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: I scraped together all of my old computers spare parts and built one hell of a mutated machine
[02:18] <orpheus> Ben64:  Oh.  Okay, so how do I add a user?
[02:18] <SparkMasterTape> Can anyone here help me get my sound card working?
[02:18] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: thanks for your help
[02:18] <Ben64> orpheus: is this running on the computer you're on now
[02:18] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: wow, I can feel the stress unwinding now... I think I was keeping going on adrenalin
[02:18] <orpheus> Ben64: Yes.
[02:18] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: hahaha
[02:18] <Ben64> orpheus: then you already have a user!
[02:18] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: Hopefully we don't see you again for a long while
[02:18] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: I was on a fog during the middle of it
[02:19] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: Please don't say that, it's going to throw me back in here by morning time
[02:19]  * TJ- hides
[02:19] <amazoniantoad> hahaha
[02:19] <amazoniantoad> alrighty. ciao
[02:19] <SparkMasterTape> I have a Dell Sound Blaster Live! (emu10k1x) that I can't get to play audio out of my speakers
[02:19] <SparkMasterTape> Can someone help me get it working
[02:19] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: I just found another 8 pastebin tabs to close :)
[02:20] <amazoniantoad> TJ-: This has to be a record in some capacity
[02:20] <orpheus> Ben64: I guess I'm confused then...  I thought I had to do something to log into the server.
[02:20] <SparkMasterTape> Anyone willing to help me get a sound card working
[02:21] <DosTuMai> Wellp, my sleeping pills are kicking in. I'm off to bed, night, all. o7
[02:21] <SparkMasterTape> It's a dell sound blaster live! (emu10k1x) , its from an old Dell Dimension 4600
[02:21] <orpheus> Ben64:  Trying to test out installing WordPress
[02:23] <SparkMasterTape> I downloaded this package ld10k1 through synaptic. Its called a patch loader but I have no idea how to activate it or replace the current driver for my audio
[02:23] <SparkMasterTape> it included a server to store the driver state, a control tool for the server and a dump loader
[02:24] <darsie> a d
[02:25] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: isn't the emu10k1x driver for MIDI, not PCM?
[02:26] <darsie> a dWill an XFree86 nvidia driver work with Xorg?
[02:26] <SparkMasterTape> I performed a command I found earlier listing my devices
[02:26] <SparkMasterTape> and thats what it gave me, the dell sound blaster live!
[02:26] <SparkMasterTape> and then that model or version number in parenthesis
[02:27] <SparkMasterTape> the command being aplay -l
[02:27] <SparkMasterTape> correction, emu10k1x
[02:28] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: OK, yes, I've just read up on it on the ALSA site
[02:28] <SparkMasterTape> excellent thank you for helping
[02:29] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: can you "pastebinit <( aplay -l )" ?
[02:29] <SparkMasterTape> I downloaded a few packages hoping to fix the problem , alsa-tools, ld10k1, awesfx
[02:29] <SparkMasterTape> absolutely , one moment please
[02:29] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: I assume you have speakers/headphones connected to its outputs?
[02:30] <SparkMasterTape> speakers yes
[02:30] <SparkMasterTape> http://pastebin.com/LMmWwEHM
[02:30] <SparkMasterTape> just a simple 2.0 set of Creative speakers, with external power
[02:31] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: and how are you testing it?
[02:31] <SparkMasterTape> The audio worked before I formatted and installed Lubuntu 15.04
[02:31] <SparkMasterTape> and they worked on my Windows 10 machine as well
[02:32] <SparkMasterTape> and as far as testing the audio on here, ive been just scrolling the volume adjuster up and down
[02:32] <SparkMasterTape> listening for the noise the OS theme makes
[02:32] <SparkMasterTape> ill test a youtube video now
[02:34] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: yeah pain
[02:34] <SparkMasterTape> nothing
[02:34] <jeguan> hello, how can i review  past discussions for ubuntu mailing list before i subscribed it?
[02:34] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: OK, because you have several sound devices that probably isn't the system default
[02:35] <SparkMasterTape> I wonder why I have several sound devices on this stock machine
[02:35] <SparkMasterTape> theres no audio input on the motherboard that i see, just this sound card connected to the PCI
[02:36] <SparkMasterTape> how can i set it so that the sound card is the default
[02:38] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: can you show us "pastebinit <( aplay -L )" (note the capital L)
[02:38] <SparkMasterTape> I am reading on websites too that the sound card may be called a ADI 198x
[02:38] <SparkMasterTape> but im also reading its a Dell Sound Blaster Live!
[02:39] <SparkMasterTape> okay one moment please
[02:39] <Denza252> hi, I have a question
[02:39] <Denza252> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot would this still work with like, *buntu Vivid?
[02:39] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: okay I wait
[02:39] <Denza252> if not, does the normal netboot installer have an option to dualboot?
[02:40] <uoylliklliwi> Denza252: you try it
[02:40] <SparkMasterTape> http://pastebin.com/PpgVYVRU
[02:41] <SparkMasterTape> I imagine at this point after trying to install certain packages to fix it, there may be some dependency issues
[02:41] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: does it work in unity but not in lxfce
[02:41] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: I think the problem is the motherboard has an integrated Intel sound chipset, but you say no phyiscal connections to it, so it is being detected and made the default as far as software is concerned, when you want the SoundBlaster to be  the default. Show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[02:42] <SparkMasterTape> you know what, there is an audio jack on the front of the PC
[02:42] <SparkMasterTape> which I just tried to use and didnt get sound out of either
[02:43] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: the default would likely be the rear outputs if it had some
[02:43] <SparkMasterTape> uoylliklliwi: I am not sure, this is the only version I have installed or tried
[02:43] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: run alsamixer in terminal
[02:44] <SparkMasterTape> Card: Intel ICH5
[02:44] <SparkMasterTape> Chip: Analog Devices AD1980
[02:44] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: what version is ubuntu did you instal.
[02:44] <SparkMasterTape> well, technically im using Lubuntu 15.04
[02:44] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: run alsamixer in terminal
[02:45] <SparkMasterTape> but nobodys responding over there and i imagine that the help here would translate
[02:45] <SparkMasterTape> uoylliklliwi: I did
[02:45] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: can you select the audio device in alsamixer in terminal.
[02:45] <SparkMasterTape> yes
[02:45] <SparkMasterTape> Ahh
[02:46] <SparkMasterTape> Should I go with the Intel ICH5 or the Soudn Blaster Live!
[02:46] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: the one your trying to use. Is it muted.
[02:47] <SparkMasterTape> it appears that it may be , I am no audio engineer and am going to need to figure out how to navigate this alsamixer
[02:47] <SparkMasterTape> or how to increase the levels
[02:47] <SparkMasterTape> ah nvm easy
[02:48] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: "amixer"
[02:49] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: sometimes you can only unmute it
[02:49] <Melite> If I run the command 'cp /path/to/dir/* /second/path/to/direc'
[02:49] <Melite> Shouldn't folders in the /path/to/dir also be copied over to /second/path/to/direc ?
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Melite: Not unless you tell it too with the 'r' flag . r for recursion .
[02:53] <SparkMasterTape> te
[02:53] <SparkMasterTape> nope
[02:54] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[02:56] <SparkMasterTape> done
[02:56] <arooni> ok so now i got the old version of nginx removed... now i'm getting a 403 error on accessing my site... it looks like this error is caused because my /var/www directory (and all subdirectories of code) are owned by my current user (in this case chasetoys)... so do i need to recursively change all ownership on the site to www-data ... or just in certain directories?
[02:57] <orpheus> I think I set up PHPMyAdmin with Apache wrong.  How do I reset?  Tried uninstalling and reinstalling.
[02:57] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: run pavucontrol in terminal.
[02:58] <SparkMasterTape> k
[02:59] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: not sure when you installed pavucontroll if it installed pulseaudio.
[02:59] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol
[02:59] <orpheus> How can I check if PHP is installed properly?
[02:59] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: just to be sure.
[03:00] <nhyl> orpheus, use "apt-get purge", this deletes all configuration files etc, simple uninstall keeps them
[03:00] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: to test the Live outputs directly from terminal with ALSA, do "speaker-test -Dfront:CARD=Live,DEV=0 -c2 -l1 -twav"
[03:00] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: typo! "speaker-test -Dhw:CARD=Live,DEV=0 -c2 -l1 -twav"
[03:00] <SparkMasterTape> bam
[03:01] <uoylliklliwi> TJ-: that just verify it's active which he did with alsamixer
[03:01] <TJ-> uoylliklliwi: Oh did he? I must have missed that :)
[03:02] <SparkMasterTape> well it made noise come out!
[03:02] <uoylliklliwi> SparkMasterTape: askubuntu.com/questions/80384/where-are-the-lxde-sound-preferences Will give you different GUIs to work with.
[03:02] <TJ-> uoylliklliwi: SparkMasterTape if the Live works, and the integrated Intel device doesn't have outputs, then we can set that integrated device to not be the default so the Live is
[03:03] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: did you "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )" yet?
[03:03] <SparkMasterTape> no
[03:03] <SparkMasterTape> 1sec
[03:03] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: that will give the info needed to alter /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[03:04] <SparkMasterTape> http://pastebin.com/1SK6nKAA
[03:05] <orpheus> nhyl: Thanks!
[03:06] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: so the Intel integrated uses the driver "snd_intel8x0" and the SoundBlaster the "snd_emu10k1x" and you want the latter device to be the default
[03:06] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: "pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf" please
[03:08] <ignacio> How to disable guest user in lightdm?
[03:08] <ignacio> I have lubuntu
[03:09] <rchavik> i'm getting "[UFW BLOCK] IN=tun0 OUT= MAC= SRC=x.x.x.x DST=x.x.x.x LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=213 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=36066 DPT=6379 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0" even though i have allowed the tun0 interface, and have successfully connected to the port. ideas?
[03:10] <SparkMasterTape> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629397/
[03:10] <nhyl> ignacio, http://askubuntu.com/questions/523605/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session-from-lubuntu-14-04
[03:10] <ignacio> letmesse
[03:11] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: "echo 'options snd-intel8x0 index=-2' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf" and then you'll need to reboot the system to test it, because the sound kernel modules have dependencies that make it difficult to unload the module
[03:11] <ignacio> nhyl, thanks
[03:11] <SparkMasterTape> excellent thank you
[03:12] <daftykins> ignacio: note that people that disable guest sessions tend to have a lot harder time diagnosing issues when they come in here ;)
[03:13] <SparkMasterTape> brb
[03:20] <SparkMasterTape> hmm i dont think that worked
[03:20] <orpheus> Trying to install wordpress on local LAMP server, running the install script is not working.
[03:21] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: have you checked the device ordering? "aplay -l" now? if it worked, the Live will be Card 0
[03:22] <SparkMasterTape> it appears to have...
[03:22] <daftykins> orpheus: explain what you're doing exactly
[03:22] <daftykins> you don't run an install script, you visit the install php file from a browser
[03:22] <nudoge> SparkMasterTape: I have a youtube video of me installing wordpress on a ubuntu virtual machine.  would you like to see it?
[03:22] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: OK... now use amixer, see if the card has muted / low volumes
[03:22] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: ignore that; it's a bot
[03:23] <daftykins> have we reported said bot?
[03:23] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: it keys off the nicknames it sees talking when it enters the room
[03:23] <SparkMasterTape> got it
[03:23] <SparkMasterTape> Woot
[03:23] <nudoge> grats
[03:23] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: sound working?
[03:23] <SparkMasterTape> thank you so much, i just had to open audio controls and select it from the drop down
[03:23] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: Yay :)
[03:24] <SparkMasterTape> Bumping some Spark Master Tape right now
[03:24] <SparkMasterTape> my favorite rapper ! wewt
[03:24] <SparkMasterTape> thanks guys
[03:24] <SparkMasterTape> now i just need to figure out why this PC is sooo slow. Must be the 512mb of ram and 2.4Ghz Pentium 4
[03:24] <daftykins> orpheus: well?
[03:24] <orpheus> daftykins: I am trying to visit the install script in the browser.  install.php is in /var/www/wp-admin, but I get an error.
[03:24] <SparkMasterTape> but even then, it seems slowww. i know theres a whole list of drivers on dells website i cant install cuz they are .exe's
[03:25] <daftykins> orpheus: and the error is? http://paste.ubuntu.com if it's lengthy
[03:25] <orpheus> daftykins: Specifically 404 not found
[03:25] <SparkMasterTape> I mean, even single tasking with a 2.4Ghz Pentium 4 shouldnt be sloww
[03:25] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: slow doing what? Which Ubuntu release?
[03:25] <SparkMasterTape> Lubuntu 15.04
[03:25] <SparkMasterTape> 32bit
[03:25] <daftykins> orpheus: what did you type exactly in the address bar?
[03:25] <nhyl> i just noticed i have 3 microphones for my headset in the settings, digital output, headset-microphone and analog output ... they all belong to "razer kraken 7.1" and they all work with same quality, volume etc, why is that? :o
[03:26] <orpheus> daftykins:  http://<IP_ADDRESS>/wp-admin/install.php
[03:26] <ignacio> did you started apache?, just saying
[03:26] <TJ-> SparkMasterTape: check "top" for processes using lots of CPU, also look at the load average at the top of the screen. anything close or above 1.0 could be a problem
[03:26] <SparkMasterTape> playing back videos is almost impossible
[03:26] <daftykins> you wouldn't get a 404 from a non-running apache
[03:26] <ignacio> yeha, srry.
[03:26] <TJ-> ignacio: have you tested with a simply phpinfo() script?
[03:27] <ignacio> ^
[03:27] <ignacio> not for me. orpheus ^
[03:27] <daftykins> orpheus: usually just hitting the site root will hit the install script when it's a new wordpress instance.
[03:27] <orpheus> ignacio: I think so.  This is the first time I'm doing this.
[03:27] <TJ-> sorry ignacio my eyes are tired
[03:27] <ignacio> TJ-, np :)
[03:27] <ignacio> orpheus, what's the content of /var/www ?
[03:27] <SparkMasterTape> meh, its a 10 year old PC , im only using it because my gaming rig just had a short on the mobo
[03:27] <SparkMasterTape> this bracket somehow fell off an aftermarket Zalman CPU cooler
[03:28] <SparkMasterTape> causing a short, luckily im under warranty
[03:28] <SparkMasterTape> mustly came loose when i took this high powered air compressor to it for my monthly dusting
[03:28] <TJ-> orpheus:  "echo '<?php phpinfo() ?>' | sudo tee /var/www/info.php" then try "http://<IP_ADDRESS>/info.php"
[03:28] <orpheus> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/1GRJnQz1
[03:29] <SparkMasterTape> thanks again for everything everyone
[03:29] <SparkMasterTape> peace
[03:29] <nudoge> orpheus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD3tJNCcdWM  #For future reference if you decide to do a reinstall
[03:29] <orpheus> TJ-: Did that, got "No such file or directory"
[03:30] <daftykins> orpheus: is this 14.04 ?
[03:30] <daftykins> FYI the document root is /var/www/html/
[03:30] <ignacio> orpheus, are you sure about the ip?
[03:30] <daftykins> so your files are in the wrong path
[03:30] <TJ-> orpheus: ahhh, wrong root!
[03:30] <Guest64566> I have read that there is 2 seperate usb drivers for adb and fastboot so maybe i have to install a usb driver for fast boot not sure where or how to do this am on a ubuntu 14 os's
[03:30] <TJ-> orpheus:  "echo '<?php phpinfo() ?>' | sudo tee /var/www/html/info.php" then try "http://<IP_ADDRESS>/info.php"
[03:30] <Denza252> can anyone help me with netboot stuff?
[03:31] <daftykins> just ask, Denza252
[03:31] <TJ-> Guest64566: On Linux fastboot/adb should 'just work' as long as udev sets up the connection correctly
[03:31] <Denza252> so I did everything according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot
[03:31] <Guest64566> my problem is with the command fastboot for andrioid phone devel i have install andriod packages for adb and fastboot and adb works fine
[03:31] <Denza252> except the iptables stuff, because I knew it wasn't enabled
[03:32] <Denza252> I plugged my netbook into my desktop (the host in this case), and tried booting from the PXE thing
[03:32] <Guest64566> will when i uses sudo fastboot or fastboot ... i get <wait for device> for ever
[03:32] <orpheus> ignacio: Yes, I get the apache "It works" page
[03:32] <Guest64566> I tried restarting the udev service but that didn't help either
[03:32] <daftykins> orpheus: as i say you've unzipped the wordpress.zip into the wrong folder, you need to move everything into /var/www/html/
[03:32] <Guest64566> I have looked at lsusb and nothing appears to be an issue there
[03:32] <TJ-> Denza252: how did you connect the PCs - a cable directly between them?
[03:33] <daftykins> it'll be fine after you do that (and include your correctly edited wp-config.php)
[03:33] <Denza252> TJ-, yep
[03:33] <guest-teo8tn> hii
[03:33] <Denza252> the desktop was wirelessly connected to my router, and my netbook was plugged into the ethernet port
[03:33] <Guest64566> using lsusb I have an entry Bus 001 Device 045: ID 19d2:ffe3 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM  is what lsusb has for my phone device
[03:33] <TJ-> Denza252: what type of Ethernet ports are they, Fast Ethernet (100Mbps) or Gigabit Ethernet (1000Mbps) ?
[03:33] <guest-teo8tn> hii
[03:33] <Denza252> gigabit
[03:33] <Denza252> at least, on the desktop
[03:34] <ignacio> hi guest-teo8tn
[03:34] <orpheus> daftykins:  Looks like that did it.
[03:34] <Denza252> TJ-, netbook is gigabit too
[03:34] <TJ-> Denza252: The reason I ask is, when you direct-connect ethernet ports both need to support auto-mdi-x (cross-over) because they are not connected via a switch.
[03:34] <Guest64566> so how do i clear this up if it is in a /etc udev config file how do i clear it up
[03:34] <daftykins> orpheus: huzzah!
[03:35] <Denza252> TJ-, I think I have a switch
[03:35] <Guest64566> I will check the logs for a udev issue and log errors not just info
[03:35] <TJ-> Denza252: on the TFTP/BOOTP server try running "sudo tcpdump -ni <ethX>" (replace X) and see if the interface 'sees' BOOTP packets arriving from the client when it tries to PXE boot
[03:35] <orpheus> daftykins, TJ-, ignacio:  Thanks!  Onwards!
[03:36] <ignacio> congrats orpheus
[03:36] <Denza252> TJ-, oh, one other thing
[03:36] <ghostmediapro> DosTuMai: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629573/
[03:36] <Denza252> it's all running off a LiveUSB
[03:36] <Denza252> would that cause any problems?
[03:36] <ghostmediapro> anysend mail guru's http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629573/
[03:37] <Guest64566> I have really know rules set other then a could 70-persistent-net.rules in that file but no usb rules so i will restart with log files on a higher level and check the log ... but if it is not udev what else could it be?
[03:37] <TJ-> Denza252: The TFTP/BOOTP you mean? that shouldn't be a problem. Are you sure the DHCP and TFTP services are active? "sudo netstat -tnlp" will tell you
[03:37] <TJ-> Guest64566: if adb sees the phone but fastboot doesn't it must be something with the android tooling
[03:38] <TJ-> Guest64566: is the phone in fastboot mode when you try it? fastboot won't see the device unless it is in fastboot mode
[03:38] <Denza252> TJ-, I'm using dnsmasq for both dhcp and tftp, and I made sure to start it
[03:38] <Guest64566> ok so then what packages or what thing can i do to fix this
[03:38] <Guest64566> for fastboot is there like a usb driver program specific for fastboot that i could install or something to correct this
[03:39] <TJ-> Denza252: OK, but also check with netstat it is still listening - many people get caught out when the service has unexpected stopped, or is not listening on the interfaces they think it is. It may only be listsening on localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>) for example
[03:39] <Guest64566> how do you put the device in fastboot mode ???
[03:39] <Guest64566> I turned on usb debugging for adb but don't see a setting for fastboot mode
[03:39] <TJ-> Guest64566: usually by holding down a key combo at boot-time, similar to entering hboot mode
[03:40] <Denza252> TJ-, this would work too, right?
[03:40] <Denza252> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot#Verify
[03:40] <TJ-> Guest64566: Power + Volume-Up I seem to recall, or maybe Volume-Down
[03:40] <ignacio> Guest64566, adb reboot bootloader
[03:40] <ignacio> I think that should work
[03:40] <TJ-> Denza252: yes, ss is the successor to netstat
[03:40] <Guest64566> The only key holding down i know of that works on this phone is volume + , power, camera button all at the same time at boot gets me into the recovery console but thats about it
[03:41] <TJ-> Guest64566: there will be another key combo for entering hboot mode, which may have options to enter fastboot and recovery on its menu
[03:41] <Guest64566> The recover console only has 4 options reboot system , erase data/factory settings , install from a sd card , or wipe cache so no fastboot setting there
[03:42] <ignacio> Guest64566, can you try adb reboot bootloader?
[03:42] <TJ-> Guest64566: try Power + Volume-Down
[03:42] <ignacio> and if doesnt works adb reboo fastboot?
[03:42] <TJ-> ignacio: good idea!
[03:42] <ignacio> *reboot
[03:42] <Denza252> TJ-, on a semi-related note
[03:42] <Denza252> how easy is it to set up a netbootable ISO
[03:42] <daftykins> your bigger problem will be trying to make use of a netbook in 2015 i'd say
[03:43] <daftykins> candidate for lubuntu :)
[03:43] <TJ-> Denza252: I deploy all the ISOs on my network that way, with BOOTP~DHCP/TFTP for the PXE boot loader and NFS for the file-systems.
[03:44] <TJ-> Denza252: my scripts have evolved a bit since I wrote this, but the basics are still the same: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/NetbootPxeLiveCDMultipleReleases
[03:44] <Guest64566> when i do adb reboot-bootloader i get the phone hanging on the ZTE screen doesn't go anywhere when i adb reboot i get the phone to actually restart the whole os's again fine
[03:44] <ignacio> Guest64566, but you can d ofastboot devies?
[03:45] <ignacio> fastboot devices
[03:45] <Guest64566> So what else should i try or where is fastboot located option
[03:45] <ignacio> Guest64566, I think its on the ZTE thing.. Just try fastboot devices when that screen appears
[03:45] <TJ-> Guest64566: ignacio is saying that when you think the device has 'hung' it is probably waiting for a fastboot connection, so on the PC do "fastboot devices"
[03:45] <daftykins> Guest64566: 'reboot-bootloader' doesn't look right, isn't it a space?
[03:46] <TJ-> daftykins: no, it's hyphenated
[03:46] <Denza252> TJ-, one last question, I promise
[03:46] <Denza252> in the minimal netinstaller
[03:46] <daftykins> ah ok
[03:47] <Denza252> does it support setting up a dualbooted system?
[03:47] <Guest64566> I think it is both adb reboot-bootloader or adb reboot bootloader i will try the other one to see if anything different happens
[03:47] <brian|lfs> hello anyone around tonight
[03:47] <brian|lfs> I"m pulling my lack of hair here
[03:47] <ignacio> Guest64566, did you tried adb reboot fastboot?
[03:48] <Guest64566> And yes i did fastboot devices as this ZTE screen is hanging at adb reboot-bootloader and it is just hanging as well
[03:48] <brian|lfs> I'm using mdadm raid lvm and encryption and my system hangs on boot after opening my encrypted swap
[03:48] <brian|lfs> I've tried using both 15.04 and 10 same result
[03:48] <Guest64566> O wait it finished the fastboot devices command and left no lines of info
[03:48] <brian|lfs> seems to work on 14.10
[03:48] <nudoge> brian|lfs: pastebin ur fstab
[03:48] <brian|lfs> ok
[03:49] <brian|lfs> Modeuse,
[03:49] <brian|lfs> I also tried uuids before didn't help
[03:49] <brian|lfs> can only boot using recovery
[03:49] <TJ-> daftykins: actually, nowadays it can be both
[03:50] <daftykins> oh :D
[03:50] <nudoge> brian|lfs: did you check the logs?
[03:50] <brian|lfs> http://pastebin.com/GvKspeRh
[03:50] <brian|lfs> there is my fstab Modeuse
[03:50] <TJ-> Denza252: I don't know... that depends on the partitioning step, which is the same installer as -server (and what -alternate used to be), which is the text/ncurses based debian-installer
[03:50] <Guest64566> i have noticed in the status window when i do adb reboot-bootloader it is in an unknown state for like ever
[03:51] <TJ-> Guest64566: maybe the device is 'locked' in some way to prevent it. Anyhow, you've got an Android support issue now, not Ubuntu
[03:51] <daftykins> because it's rebooting? :)
[03:52] <brian|lfs> glancing in my systmd journal right now Modeuse I'll let you know if i see anything
[03:52] <Guest64566> is there another way to get to the fastboot option i only know how to get into the recovery menu so kind of wondering if there is any hidden bios menus that i am not aware of and what the key combination for it would be it is a ZTE phone model x500
[03:52] <ignacio> Guest64566, just saying, for what you need the fastboot mode
[03:53] <Guest64566> maybe only way to uses it on this phone is to root the phone just a thought
[03:53] <daftykins> Guest64566: not Ubuntu's responsibility, sorry. plenty of more useful channels on freenode, like a cyanogenmod one perhaps... depends what you're trying to achieve.
[03:53] <TJ-> Guest64566: try in #android
[03:54] <Guest64566> alright thanks for your help i will try either those or googling around for ZTE model x500 and fastboot issues
[03:55] <nudoge> brian|lfs: are you able to log into a tty when the system hangs?
[03:56] <brian|lfs> nope
[03:56] <brian|lfs> I found something Modeuse  Failed to deactivate: Device or resource busy
[03:56] <brian|lfs> Sep 30 23:24:54 ubuntu systemd[1]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Control process exited, code=exited status=1
[03:56] <brian|lfs> Sep 30 23:24:54 ubuntu systemd[1]: Failed to start Cryptography Setup for ubuntu-swap_crypt.
[03:56] <brian|lfs> Sep 30 23:24:54 ubuntu systemd[1]: Dependency failed for Encrypted Volumes.
[03:56] <brian|lfs> Sep 30 23:24:54 ubuntu systemd[1]: cryptsetup.target: Job cryptsetup.target/start failed with result 'dependency'.
[03:57] <daftykins> !paste | brian|lfs
[03:57] <brian|lfs> sorry didn't realize it was that long
[03:57] <brian|lfs> I'll pagebin it
[03:58] <brian|lfs> http://pastebin.com/GvKspeRh
[03:58] <nudoge> thaks
[03:59] <TJ-> brian|lfs: Encrypted swap block-device unlock/mount is failing from the look of that
[03:59] <brian|lfs> its saying a dependency failed for cryptography
[03:59] <brian|lfs> ya I know
[03:59] <brian|lfs> but why
[03:59] <brian|lfs> it works in recovery
[03:59] <TJ-> brian|lfs: did you create that fstab manually?
[03:59] <nudoge> thats the old pastebin
[03:59] <brian|lfs> nope installer did
[04:00] <brian|lfs> I can pastebin my cryttab?
[04:00] <TJ-> brian|lfs: OK, yes please
[04:01] <nudoge> cryptsetup.target: Job cryptsetup.target/start failed with result 'dependency' looks important.  the crypttab will help though
[04:01] <brian|lfs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629680/
[04:01] <surgy> http://tundra-telebotics.com/
[04:01] <brian|lfs> agree
[04:02] <surgy> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5pfxq2ro020qb2f/20150930_225417.jpg?dl=0
[04:02] <brian|lfs> what does non luks,swap,discard mean
[04:02] <brian|lfs> none I mean
[04:03] <TJ-> brian|lfs: is the pass-phrase for the swap the same as used for data and home?
[04:03] <brian|lfs> yes
[04:03] <nudoge> brian|lfs: have you tried booting without swap?
[04:03] <brian|lfs> how would I do that comment it out in fstab and crytab?
[04:03] <nudoge> yep
[04:04] <brian|lfs> I can give that a shot
[04:04] <brian|lfs> any idea what the none and discard mean
[04:04] <TJ-> brian|lfs: can you "pastebinit <( sudo blkid _"
[04:04] <brian|lfs> yes
[04:04] <TJ-> brian|lfs: can you "pastebinit <( sudo blkid )"  -- typo!
[04:05] <TJ-> brian|lfs: 'none' means "no key-file", "discard" means to use TRIM on an underlying SSD
[04:05] <Guest64566> humm when i try the other command without the hyphen sudo adb reboot bootloader gives me  insufficient permissions for device WTF
[04:06] <TJ-> Guest64566: the device refuses; probably it is locked. Ask the Android experts
[04:06] <brian|lfs> oh ok just double checking
[04:06] <ignacio> Guest64566,
[04:06] <ignacio> do you have thedrivers?
[04:07] <ignacio> or enabled the debug mode? and confirmed in phone?
[04:07] <ignacio> I mean, after adb devics
[04:07] <Guest64566> O so if it is a locked phone issue would rooting it unlock this ability
[04:08] <brian|lfs> am I missing something on this command "pastebinit <( sudo blkid )"
[04:08] <brian|lfs> I know I have blkid and its saying blkid not found
[04:08] <Guest64566> I have turned usb debugging on that was the only developer options i could see on this phone
[04:08] <nudoge> lolol
[04:09] <nudoge> sudo -s then use blkid
[04:09] <Guest64566> weird when i sudo su and did adb device i get ????? no permissions
[04:10] <brian|lfs> thanks of course that works
[04:10] <nudoge> oh wait its systemd..... it might be  sudo /sbin/blkid  if you don't want to be root
[04:10] <TJ-> brian|lfs: u "pastebinit <( sudo /sbin/blkid )"
[04:10] <brian|lfs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629710/
[04:11] <brian|lfs> oh ok got you it wants the full path
[04:11] <brian|lfs> all well its on the above link
[04:11] <TJ-> brian|lfs: OK, so the underlying device is "/dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap: UUID="60203fec-148d-4efb-af42-af0c9c551cde" TYPE="crypto_LUKS""
[04:11] <brian|lfs> yes correct
[04:11] <brian|lfs> which is in my fstab
[04:12] <brian|lfs> I mean cryttab
[04:12] <TJ-> brian|lfs: which means the LVM VG "ubuntu" needs to be available first
[04:12] <brian|lfs> correct
[04:13] <brian|lfs> so do I need to modify LVM or my initrd image?
[04:13] <TJ-> brian|lfs: I'm wondering if systemd has miscalculated the dependency graph
[04:13] <brian|lfs> hmm should I try booting with upstart then
[04:14] <nudoge> it might just need to go lower on the cryttab
[04:14] <brian|lfs> oh so move my swap and try rebooting first
[04:14] <brian|lfs> in my cryttab
[04:14] <TJ-> order in the file shouldn't enter into it. systemd analyses which devices rely on others to figure out the load order
[04:15] <nudoge> O
[04:15] <TJ-> brian|lfs: I think we need a better look at the systemd log
[04:15] <brian|lfs> is there a way I can upload that
[04:15] <TJ-> brian|lfs: "pastebinit <( sudo journalctl )"
[04:15] <brian|lfs> ?
[04:16] <brian|lfs> ok trying that
[04:17] <brian|lfs> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12629731/
[04:18] <brian|lfs> probably a million reboots in thehre
[04:18] <brian|lfs> there
[04:18] <brian|lfs> but the first bootup it failed on I was looking at that one earlier
[04:18] <brian|lfs> brb need rum
[04:18] <Pizzahut91> Hallo
[04:19] <brian|lfs> I'm back
[04:20] <brian|lfs> now you know alot about my hardware lol
[04:21] <TJ-> brian|lfs: looks like the interesting but starts around line 1461
[04:22] <TJ-> brian|lfs: sorry, line 1433
[04:23] <brian|lfs> I would think other people would be having this problem
[04:23] <brian|lfs> I can't be the only one with raid lvm and encrypted volumes
[04:23] <TJ-> brian|lfs: line 1444 shows swap is mounted already
[04:24] <roberth_> alguien de costa rica?
[04:24] <brian|lfs> hmmm
[04:24] <TJ-> brian|lfs: an 1447 starts the problem messages
[04:26] <brian|lfs> uup I see that line TJ
[04:26] <brian|lfs> but if its encrypted how could it already be mounted
[04:27] <TJ-> brian|lfs: show us "pastebinit <( sudo lvdisplay ubuntu )"
[04:27] <nudoge> TJ-: why is nvidia failing?
[04:27] <TJ-> brian|lfs: it could be the ubuntu-swap_crypt is actually an LV, not the unlocked ubuntu-swap
[04:27] <brian|lfs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629768/
[04:28] <swift110-phone> Hey
[04:29] <nudoge> hi swift110-phone
[04:30] <swift110-phone> How r u nudoge
[04:30] <nudoge> learing.  so great!
[04:30] <swift110-phone> Ok
[04:30] <nudoge> learning*
[04:30] <swift110-phone> Good
[04:30] <TJ-> nudoge: brian|lfs nvidia: a bug in the driver by the look of it
[04:31] <brian|lfs> I installed the nvidia driver after wards
[04:31] <brian|lfs> was having the same problem before
[04:31] <TJ-> brian|lfs: ubuntu-swap = 119.21 GiB !?!?!?!
[04:31] <nudoge> brian|lfs: ya and the uuid look mismatched
[04:31] <brian|lfs> yes I have 64GB of ram
[04:32] <TJ-> brian|lfs: why do you want 119GB of swap in that case?
[04:32] <brian|lfs> wwill I wanted 128
[04:32] <brian|lfs> 64x2 I goofed apperantly withh my math
[04:32] <TJ-> brian|lfs: but why!?
[04:32] <brian|lfs> thought it was recommened to have double the swap of your ram
[04:33] <Tryptych> ....lol
[04:33] <nudoge> brian|lfs: i like your logic
[04:33] <brian|lfs> so should I put the uuid of my swap volume in cryttab?
[04:33] <Tryptych> ...have you ever used more then 2gb?
[04:34] <brian|lfs> and reboot and cross fingers
[04:34] <brian|lfs> of swap no
[04:34] <brian|lfs> of ram yes
[04:34] <TJ-> brian|lfs: For support of power-off hibernation, 1.25 x RAM. Otherwise, with 64GB RAM I'd not have more than 8GB and if it started being used I'd be annoyed!
[04:34] <brian|lfs> ???
[04:35] <nudoge> brian|lfs: but i noticed that those uuids dont match anything eles i have seen.  seems like a bit of a shotgun analysis on my part
[04:35] <brian|lfs> oh ok
[04:35] <nudoge> someone with more experience with systemd is going to have to 2nd my opinion
[04:35] <brian|lfs> last I know it should be the uuid of the partition not the volume
[04:35] <TJ-> brian|lfs: I think the crypt_swap issue *may* be because systemd unlocks /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap, finds a swap header inside, and mounts it automatically. Then after that it comes across the entry from fstab for the same device and tries to mount it again, causing the failure. I'd try commenting out the entry in fstab for the swap and see if that helps.
[04:36] <brian|lfs> oh ok that makes sense updating fstab and rebooting non recovery
[04:36] <TJ-> nudoge: which UUIDs were you concerned about?
[04:36] <nudoge> the lv
[04:37] <brian|lfs> oh you said mine don't match
[04:37] <nudoge> and cryttab dont match
[04:37] <brian|lfs> but I think they do the one for the swap on my cryttab
[04:37] <brian|lfs> they shouldn't the one in the cryttab would be the partition
[04:38] <brian|lfs> then the one in fstab would be the swap file system
[04:38] <nudoge> that would explain why they mismatch
[04:38] <brian|lfs> but I'm going to reboot with swap commented out in my fstab
[04:38] <brian|lfs> brb
[04:38] <TJ-> nudoge: they all match so far as I can see
[04:41] <nudoge> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629812/ its just confusing because i somehow missed the blkid pastebin
[04:43] <TJ-> nudoge: this one? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12629710/
[04:44] <nudoge> TJ-: yep and there is a match there
[04:44] <nudoge> thanks
[05:00] <huscurian> I had a class today but here's my problem right now with Ubuntu.
[05:01] <huscurian> I had a bash file that I wanted to run but couldn't.  My professor used GnomUS to run the bash file.  I tried this within the terminal.  It now shows two bash files that I downloaded.  However, one bash file is running.  It has that ~ next to the .sh
[05:01] <huscurian> How do I stop it from executing?
[05:02] <daftykins> ctrl+C
[05:02] <huscurian> On the file inside the folder or inside the Terminal?
[05:02] <huscurian> do I need to type the file first before doing that?
[05:02] <daftykins> where it was run from, so a flashing cursor should be there, depends what the script does.
[05:03] <huscurian> Nope.  The bash file is still running.
[05:03] <huscurian> It says minInsurance.sh, and then minInsurance.sh~
[05:03] <daftykins> 1) ensure the script actually has a shebang (declaration of which shell to use in the opening line, e.g. #!/bin/bash ) 2) ensure it has been given execute permissions (chmod +x script.sh) 3) run it with e.g. ./script.sh
[05:03] <huscurian> the CTRL+C doesn'tw ork
[05:04] <daftykins> no a ~ file is a backup, know how MS Word does the same with word docs being open?
[05:04] <huscurian> Yeah
[05:04] <daftykins> (you would if you have hidden files turned n)
[05:04] <daftykins> *on
[05:04] <daftykins> so the ~ is just a backup file, not the real thing.
[05:04] <huscurian> Ah, i see.
[05:04] <huscurian> So where does the backup go?  It says it's at the Downloads folder
[05:04] <huscurian> I only see two files.
[05:04] <daftykins> well you have to already have executed it for ctrl+c to stop it.
[05:05] <daftykins> e.g. "sudo apt-get update" you can ctrl+c in the midst of.
[05:05] <daftykins> you should be in the terminal, in the folder where this script is
[05:05] <huscurian> I am in the terminal, yes.
[05:05] <daftykins> cd Downloads - if you didn't already
[05:06] <daftykins> now check that shebang, "head minInsurance.sh"
[05:06] <huscurian> OK
[05:06] <huscurian> one second
[05:06] <huscurian> It's showing the file
[05:07] <daftykins> but what's the first line?
[05:07] <daftykins> compare it to #!/bin/bash as i showed earlier
[05:07] <huscurian> When I did chmod +x script.sh, then when it executed, it said "/bin/bash(exponent)M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory.
[05:07] <huscurian> The first line says #!/bin/bash
[05:07] <daftykins> ok good so it does use bash
[05:07] <huscurian> es
[05:07] <huscurian> Yes*
[05:08] <daftykins> sometimes you might get a different one. e.g. /bin/sh
[05:08] <huscurian> yeah
[05:08] <daftykins> you did do "chmod +x minInsurance.sh" yeah?
[05:08] <huscurian> Yes, i ddi
[05:08] <huscurian> I did*
[05:08] <huscurian> A while ago
[05:08] <daftykins> and you definitely get that error from "./minInsurance.sh"
[05:09] <huscurian> One second
[05:09] <huscurian> bash: ./minInsurance.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[05:09] <daftykins> funky.
[05:09] <daftykins> and this isn't as root?
[05:10] <huscurian> Root?
[05:10] <huscurian> New here but can you elaborate?
[05:10] <daftykins> root is a user like the administrator on Windows
[05:10] <daftykins> it would say root@hostname to the left if you were root
[05:11] <huscurian> Yeah, I'm the root.
[05:11] <huscurian> says huscurian@UbuntuOS
[05:11] <daftykins> no that's a username
[05:11] <daftykins> i'm saying it would literally say root@
[05:11] <huscurian> Oh, no.
[05:11] <huscurian> It doesn't say I'm the root
[05:11] <huscurian> No root@ anywhere in the terminal.
[05:11] <daftykins> good stuff, don't wanna go running a teacher's scripts as root, heh
[05:12] <huscurian> heh, yeah
[05:12] <daftykins> ok i don't know, try asking in #bash - but they might ask to see a copy of the script
[05:12] <huscurian> I wanted to run it and see if it was owrking
[05:12] <huscurian> Ok
[05:12] <daftykins> be warned, i think you need a thick skin to go in there
[05:12] <huscurian> How come?
[05:12] <huscurian> General atmosphere not too good?
[05:13] <daftykins> newbie haters so i hear :)
[05:13] <brian|lfs> hey TJ it didn't help
[05:14] <brian|lfs> in fact you can still comment out swap and it still tries to mount it
[05:14] <daftykins> i think he called it a night / has connection troubles
[05:14] <brian|lfs> I'm in shock ubuntu has a bug like that
[05:14] <brian|lfs> where it can't mount encrypted swap on boot properly
[05:14] <daftykins> when anyone uses encryption, all bets are off.
[05:15] <brian|lfs> lol
[05:15] <daftykins> oh? i've seen folk have broken swap after encrypted installs for years.
[05:15] <brian|lfs> it works on 14.10
[05:15] <brian|lfs> but then I'm missing qt5 dev libs
[05:15] <daftykins> not 15.10? that's EOL.
[05:16] <brian|lfs> huh 15.10 isn't final yet
[05:16] <daftykins> correct
[05:16] <daftykins> i'm saying 14.10 is EOL :)
[05:16] <brian|lfs> isn't EOL end of life
[05:16] <brian|lfs> wow
[05:16] <daftykins> non LTS don't last long
[05:16] <brian|lfs> its an LTS
[05:16] <daftykins> 14.10 is not LTS.
[05:17] <daftykins> 14.04.x is
[05:17] <brian|lfs> oh
[05:17] <brian|lfs> thhen I had 14.04 before I mean
[05:18] <huscurian> daftykins
[05:18] <huscurian> I went in there and one guy pointed out a weblink
[05:18] <huscurian> I did a file minInsurance.sh
[05:18] <huscurian> It had CRLF newline terminators.
[05:19] <huscurian> Whoa
[05:20] <huscurian> I did a sed -n l minInsurance and there's \r$ terminators everywhere in every single line
[05:20] <huscurian> That must be why the Terminal couldn't read the bash file
[05:35] <daftykins> huscurian: so what, the link the person shared was referring to text formatting in the script?
[05:36] <huscurian> Yeah
[05:36] <huscurian> daftykins: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/052
[05:37] <Trinity> how do I remove an icon from whisker menu?
[05:37] <huscurian> I reformatted the file to meet the UNIX/OS X standard.  Turns out it had the \t in every line under function.  Now, I deleted those then found $ in every single line after every single variable
[05:37] <huscurian> So it's quite a headache
[05:37] <daftykins> huscurian: funsies
[05:37] <huscurian> I was doing the .sh file on a Windows OS
[05:37] <huscurian> Yeah
[05:37] <daftykins> why don't you just retype the actual script content...
[05:37] <huscurian> Seems like I may have to write the code again here on Ubuntu, then save it
[05:38] <daftykins> and ask your teacher to provide it in an acceptable format >:)
[05:38] <fathom> Howdy, I am trying to access a hard drive and get the following error http://pastebin.com/mUqq4gyM
[05:38] <daftykins> ok i have to be horizontal, unconscious and hallucinating
[05:38] <daftykins> laters \o
[05:38] <fathom> How do I access it?
[05:38] <daftykins> oh go on then one more
[05:38]  * daftykins glances
[05:39] <huscurian> Yeah.  he's going to offer me his bash shellscript next time in class.
[05:39] <daftykins> fathom: windows 8 / 10 ?
[05:39] <huscurian> Anyway, thanks daftykins
[05:39] <daftykins> np
[05:39] <fathom> daftykins, 10
[05:39] <daftykins> fathom: boot back into 10, run "shutdown -s -t 1" then mount it from ubuntu
[05:39] <daftykins> it's due to hybrid shutdown, Linux is protecting your data by avoiding mounting it straight
[05:40] <fathom> daftykins, I get no GUI, the computer broke when I installed a graphics card driver, a very common issue, apparently
[05:40] <daftykins> so boot safe mode and roll back, ##windows will help you.
[05:40] <fathom> I yanked out the drive and plugged it to my linux puter
[05:40] <daftykins> no point forcing the mount, or as it says you could mount read only
[05:40] <fathom> I just want the info
[05:40] <fathom> just to copy and paste
[05:41] <fathom> then the drive can go to hades
[05:41] <daftykins> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdx# /mnt -o ro
[05:41] <daftykins> that'll work if you plug in the appropriate disk and partition for sdx#
[05:43] <fathom> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/4LnyxgSE
[05:44] <daftykins> yeah you took it literally
[05:44] <daftykins> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt -o ro,uid=1000,gid=1000
[05:47] <daftykins> though i don't 100% believe sdb1 is the C:
[05:47] <fathom> I think it broke now
[05:47] <fathom> Nothing it happens when I plug in the drive
[05:47] <daftykins> plug it where
[05:49] <fathom> I ripped the drive out of the desktop and plugged it into another computer to see if I can save the data
[05:49] <Amrut> Help needed!
[05:49] <daftykins> fathom: yes i assumed this was what you are running these commands from...
[05:49] <fathom>  A linux computer, but I guess it cannot work this way
[05:49] <nameuser_> I have an external hdd formatted with fat32 filesystem (it must be fat32 to work with my xbox 360). I use rsync to copy files to my ext hdd, but it doesn't work. The rsync is running, but the led on my ext hdd doesn't blink, and no file appears on my ext hdd. Any advices?
[05:49] <fathom> The windows machine graphics are fried
[05:49] <daftykins> fathom: sure it can. what makes you think it's broken? the command i gave you will not give any output if it succeeds.
[05:49] <fathom> No screen
[05:49] <daftykins> from no driver? that's rubbish
[05:50] <daftykins> nameuser_: run rsync verbosely to see what it's doing.
[05:50] <daftykins> likely you have the syntax wrong
[05:50] <daftykins> fathom: did you run my last command or not? did it complete cleanly with no errors?
[05:52] <nameuser_> daftykins: it's showing
[05:52] <nameuser_> Startup Warrior.mp4
[05:52] <nameuser_>     128,596,443 100%  940.49kB/s    0:02:13 (xfr#69, to-chk=474/1562)
[05:52] <fathom> http://pastebin.com/YNWiDN3n
[05:52] <daftykins> wow that's slow
[05:52] <fathom> Am not getting anywhere with this approach
[05:52] <daftykins> fathom: because you're not even typing the full command! can you read?
[05:52] <nameuser_> daftykins: i use a cheap Chinese hdd box
[05:53] <daftykins> fathom: mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt -o ro,uid=1000,gid=1000
[05:53] <TheNumb> nameuser_: that might be the reason
[05:53] <TheNumb> Maybe it's using a cheap sata over usb adapter
[05:53] <daftykins> nameuser_: well your paste suggests it's copied 68 files and it's still running, sooo?
[05:54] <nameuser_> daftykins: but no file appears on my ext hdd
[05:54] <daftykins> perhaps you got your syntax wrong and you're actually copying off the external drive onto your system
[05:54] <daftykins> what if they're hidden dot files? ls -al /path/to/external
[05:55] <nameuser_> daftykins: ok, i will double check again
[06:02] <daftykins> ok sleep for me, gl folks
[06:02] <huscurian> nice
[06:02] <huscurian> night*
[06:15] <gtristan> Hi, I just upgraded to 14.04 LTS (that went pretty well)... and I'm running this build system which is failing when trying to create a btrfs filesystem on an image
[06:15] <gtristan> dmesg shows segfault in mkfs.btrfs
[06:16] <gtristan> I suspect it's possibly this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958575
[06:16] <gtristan> btrfs-tools version is 3.12-1
[06:16] <gtristan> So the question is, can I verify that the bug is fixed or not in that ubuntu downstream package version ?
[06:17] <Guest64566> stupid question i am wondering when one should uses nis over using openldap or visa-versa seem as the work similar as a centeralized authentication /information lookup services
[06:34] <huscurian> I have a question.
[06:34] <huscurian> There's a game I'd like to install on Ubuntu.
[06:34] <huscurian> But it is an .exe file designed for Windows
[06:35] <huscurian> is it possible to package it and unpack it for Linux?
[06:35] <auronandace> !appdb | huscurian
[06:36] <huscurian> !Windows
[06:36] <huscurian> !WINE
[06:36] <auronandace> !msgthebot | huscurian
[06:37] <huscurian> auronandace: thanks
[06:37] <loa> how i can debug why my cronjob don't work?
[06:37] <loa> is there log somewhere or something?
[06:38] <auronandace> huscurian: it isn't a sure fire way to work, so don't get too excited
[06:40] <auronandace> huscurian: playonlinux is a frontend to wine which may be a little more friendly for you to use
[06:41] <Ubuntu14> Security help needed: I just reinstalled Ubuntu 14 and chkrootkit shows:Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED
[06:41] <Ubuntu14> can this be?
[06:41] <polygonal> hmm interesting
[06:41] <auronandace> Ubuntu14: cat /etc/issue
[06:42] <Ubuntu14> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[06:42] <Ubuntu14> what does this mean?
[06:42] <huscurian> auronandace: the games I was looking at are Hacker games.  Turns out they're all platinum under WINE.  But the other game I have was "garbage" :(
[06:42] <auronandace> Ubuntu14: i was just checking you were on lts rather than 14.10, because 14.10 is no longer supported
[06:44] <Ubuntu14> I also have my previous install setup sitll visible, even if I choosed to format the drive.
[06:45] <Ubuntu14> Should I select in the booting to but the installation on the roof of the HD, or in the partition, where  I'm installing ubuntu?
[06:47] <huscurian> auronandace: thanks for the rec on playonlinux.  I'm installing that one.
[06:48] <huscurian> all right
[06:48] <huscurian> night all
[06:49] <gtristan> ok another question... how do I get a newer btrfs-tools package on my freshly upgraded 14.04 system ?
[06:50] <gtristan> is there some backports... like sudo apt-get install btrfs-tools/vivid-something-backports ?
[06:50]  * gtristan not exactly clear on backports in ubuntu
[06:50] <gtristan> is there some way to browse the available backports which I can install onto 14.04 ?
[06:51] <auronandace> !backports | gtristan
[06:52] <gtristan> auronandace, I was looking at that page.. from what I understand is ever since 11.xx.. backports are 'enabled by default'
[06:53] <gtristan> auronandace, and near the end of the page is says an example, to apt-get install amarok/trusty-backports
[06:53] <gtristan> can't tell from the text if the wiki page means... if you have an older ubuntu system, and want a backport *FROM* trusty... then you use /trusty-backports
[06:54] <gtristan> or... is /trusty-backports what you would use for future versions that were 'backported INTO trusty' ?
[06:54] <polygonal> Ubuntu14: mine infected too. idk why
[06:54] <gtristan> 14.04 is trusty (I think)... so I want whatever is newest
[06:54] <Ubuntu14> See: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25176/chkrootkit-says-sbin-init-is-infected-what-does-that-mean
[06:55] <gtristan> hmmm, maybe I read that wrong
[06:55]  * gtristan tries to 'enable' backports
[06:56] <Ubuntu14> NO issue with "rkhunter -c", other warnings only..
[06:58] <polygonal> so that's why. and the bug was 4 years ago...
[07:13] <loa> hello, how i can debug cron job under ubuntu?
[07:26] <geirha> loa: A common issue with cron jobs is that it fails to find some command in the minimal PATH cron uses, so just adding the missing directories to PATH might get it working.
[07:26] <loa> geirha, i give up with blind testing i need debug.
[07:27] <loa> i always did this blind thing.... but i don't want continue with this.
[07:27] <geirha> Well, the error output from the job should give some clues
[07:27] <geirha> If the job fails, it will mail you the output
[07:27] <PCatinean> Hey guys I have a directory full of other directories which in turn have a lot of files in them. I have another directory with the same structure and I want to copy all the content from the subdirectories from location one to location two, and not overwrite anything
[07:27] <user> hola
[07:27] <PCatinean> How can that be done?
[07:28] <geirha> PCatinean: rsync should be able to do that with the right options
[07:28] <Guest46155> algun canal en español?
[07:28] <geirha> !spanish | Guest46155
[07:28] <loa> geirha, lol i forgot about this
[07:31] <loa> geirha, i have postfix installed month ago, now mail are not in standart path /var/mail
[07:31] <loa> where it can be?
[07:33] <PCatinean> geirha, I found this but my files are like attachments and do not have a suffix http://superuser.com/questions/742515/recursive-non-overwriting-file-copy
[07:34] <geirha> loa: Hm. Have you set MAILTO in crontab?
[07:34] <loa> no
[07:34] <loa> can it be a problem?
[07:34] <loa> why it not sending to local user as before.
[07:35] <loa> or i must setup something?
[07:35] <geirha> PCatinean: well, you don't need the --include and --excludes
[07:36] <geirha> loa: Not sure. I'm not that proficient with postfix to know how that works in combination with cron
[07:36] <PCatinean> geirha, wouldn't that exclude the contents of the directories?
[07:36] <jay_> hi  everyone
[07:37] <jay_> i am trying to find a sslvpn client.... i cannot seem to find it anywhere
[07:37] <geirha> PCatinean: The SO-answer deals with only copying files ending with .js   since you want to consider all files, you don't need any filtering
[07:39] <Kunc> Good Afternoon, I've been setting up a Ubuntu-GNOME environment, and I want to use a display manager other than gdm (namely mdm). I want to be able to lock my screen and use the mdm interface rather than any gnome/gdm one. Is this possible?
[07:40] <Kunc> I've tried using Xscreensaver but it locks into its own interface for unlocking, not back into the display manager.
[07:40] <cfhowlett> xscreensaver is known to cause conflicts with lightlocker dm.
[07:41] <Darkfire2> Anyone here ever had this issue.... I use webmin to install a SSL Certificate to a virtual host on my Ubuntu 14.04 server. When i go to apply the changes it ends up crashing my server. I know i am selecting the correct Certificate/Key/and Authorities file... What would cause this
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !webmin | Darkfire2
[07:41] <cfhowlett> darkbasic, also: #ubuntu-server       is available
[07:56] <Gachr> Hi everyone, what do you guys think about the new scrollbars in 15.10? I personally find them pretty difficult to click on.
[07:56] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | Gachr,
[07:57] <Gachr> Thx cfhowlett
[07:58] <_Panderetas> Yeaaaah
[08:00] <loa> can somebody on ubuntu 15.04 show me sudo systemctl status rsyslog.service
[08:02] <Gachr> loa; http://worldofgabriel.tk/for-loa.txt
[08:03] <loa> Gachr, thx
[08:03] <Gachr> You're welcome :)
[08:11] <rust> any method to fast the indexing process in ubuntu ?
[08:12] <rust> My files is opening very slow.
[08:28] <backbox> hello!
[08:28] <backbox> o
[08:29] <backbox> ya
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !hello | backbox,
[08:29] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu questions
[08:29] <backbox> I used Ossim system
[08:30] <cfhowlett> ossim???
[08:30] <hocuheng> hello
[08:30] <hocuheng> what's that  ?
[08:30] <backbox> securiy system
[08:30] <cfhowlett> !backbox | backbox,
[08:31] <backbox> include snort+ntop+ossec
[08:31] <cfhowlett> backbox is not supported here.  ubuntu flavors only.  sorry.
[08:35] <loa> hello, i tried to add rule to rsyslogd for suppressing logs and now my rsyslog.service is always in activating state  here is my log http://pastebin.com/NC7tcawN is it normal or not?
[08:37] <loa> i run sudo /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -n before that
[08:37] <loa> could this be a problem?
[08:46] <fluke_IT> hi guys, i am new, need some help. my wifi card not working fine. time to time keep disconnecting from any wifi. cant see anything as wireless network, suddenly start again to see them. even if my password are all saved for wireless network, especially for my webpocket connection, it's asking passwd again and again without connecting to it. webpocket is 50cm awai form laptop and my iphone never has problem to reach it and connect t
[08:47] <Gachr> fluke_IT; What network card is it? Try to connect through ethernet and see if there are any closed drivers for your card.
[08:47] <fluke_IT> tried to look out driver, different kernel, and as last (disperate) i am downloading 15.4 hoping the problem is fixed it self, but i dont think so. when i had windows7 wifi card was working fine, never disconnects. done thanks, wayting and ready for copy/paste
[08:48] <fluke_IT> Gach: in my office cant use ethernet card, just wifi :(
[08:48] <Guest20391> your password is right?
[08:48] <Gachr> fluke_IT; You can connect it at home or something.
[08:49] <fluke_IT> yep it is, i am connected to webpocket right now. Gach no chance to use ethernet, i use webpocket cause dont have any other choice at home too
[08:49] <fluke_IT> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 73) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 07)
[08:49] <Gachr> Well, then I can't help you there.
[08:51] <fluke_IT> :-( i was trying to deal with proprietary driver, but didn't work, also to install latest kernel, not ok too
[08:51] <MoL0ToV> on xubuntu, if i press print_scr key, the image saved contain only borders of the active window but not the contenent. Howto fix?
[08:52] <fluke_IT> molotov, i use xubuntu too, i prefer to use the "button" u can add it in the up or down bar
[08:52] <fluke_IT> u ll be free to choose what to "print"
[08:53] <fluke_IT> honestly molotov on my laptop, print_screen doesnt work even
[08:54] <MoL0ToV> also the button don't work
[08:55] <fluke_IT> it should be a button with a "photocamera" image as icon am i right?
[08:57] <MoL0ToV> yes, don't work the image is corrupted contains only the borders of the window but not the contenent
[08:57] <fluke_IT> if i right click on it, i have as option "region to capture, active window, select a region", did u try all of them?
[09:03] <admin0> yesterday i was monitoring q-l3-plugin and q-plugin all day ( migrations were also happening) but there were almost zero items in both .. today I see 126 unack items in q-l3-plugin .. .. increasing slowly .. but no ack or deliver/get .. did we changed anything today ?
[09:04] <admin0> ha .. wrong room
[09:04] <mohamed_> Hi
[09:05] <mohamed_> I have a Lenovo laptop G50-80, I tried to get the deb software of AMD graphic card from the vendor website
[09:05] <mohamed_> I installed it
[09:05] <mohamed_> Its name is:
[09:06] <mohamed_> just one second
[09:06] <cfhowlett> mohamed_, stop using the enter key.  put your info on ONE line.
[09:06] <mohamed_> cfhowlett, all right
[09:08] <mohamed_> Sorry I can't find the name of the software, but I got this error: the system is running in low-graphics mode
[09:08] <mohamed_> But I downloaded the software from AMD website, I think I will be good for the laptop and system. But as you see
[09:15] <MoL0ToV> fluke_IT, i tryed all three settings, none works, the image captured is corrupted
[09:15] <fluke_IT> :-(
[09:15] <fluke_IT> wait
[09:19] <Kira9204> mohamed_: why not install the provided packauge in ubuntu? Open the "Additional drivers" app
[09:19] <Guest20391> hi
[09:20] <Guest20391> hi
[09:21] <Kira9204> mohamed_: Installing the driver provided by AMD might not be as simple as just running it, but there are guides
[09:22] <LibertyWeNeed> All I see is my wallpaper after sign in, what is wrong?
[09:24] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: is the 3d driver working?
[09:25] <LibertyWeNeed> I think the driver is fine, because the problem only started today
[09:26] <LibertyWeNeed> I am able to get to login screen and then sign in.
[09:26] <k1l_> that doesnt tell if its ok.
[09:26] <k1l_> the login screen doesnt need 3d driver.
[09:26] <LibertyWeNeed> ok.
[09:26] <LibertyWeNeed> what should i do?
[09:26] <HunterD> hi!
[09:27] <HunterD> I have a question that might not fit this channel. if someone knows where can I get more info please quide me
[09:28] <LibertyWeNeed> I can try and reinstall Ubuntu, but I want to back up files. I have plugged HDD into HDD Dock but I only see a 255MB volume and not my whole hard drive. It may have something to do with ubuntu encryption. how do i mount?
[09:28] <k1l_> !alis | HunterD
[09:28] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: look into dmesg what is going on with hardware and drivers.
[09:29] <LibertyWeNeed> k1l_ how?
[09:30] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: press ctrl+alt+t and see if you get to a terminal
[09:30] <LibertyWeNeed> ok.. I have to put hdd back in computer....
[09:31] <Guest63156> gh
[09:32] <k1l_> well if you start without your hdd inside, where the user data is, its no wonder it doesnt work
[09:34] <HunterD> well, /msg alis LIST skype returns rooms with 2 users in them. I will ask here as it is somewhat related to ubuntu. How can I call a group of contacts programatically with skye? wither from terminal or with some coded application, does not matter
[09:38] <mohamed_> Kira9204, I think so, I will use the one provided from "Additional Drivers" app
[09:38] <mohamed_> Thank you Kira9204
[09:45] <LibertyWeNeed> k1l_ hi I couldn't get the terminal with the shortcut you gave, however I got the full screen terminal open with the command control + alt + F1
[09:47] <Guest16826> ctrl +alt+f1 and you can get the terminal
[09:47] <Guest16826> it is fullscreen
[09:48] <mr_lou> Help. My resolution is messed up after installing some upgrades.
[09:48] <LibertyWeNeed> k1l_, what do I do now?
[09:48] <mr_lou> Have been trying various suggestions I found googling, but nothing helps.
[09:49] <mr_lou> It says I only have a screen called "Laptop" now, instead of my two screens I had cloned before. :-(
[09:49] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: what was that setup you mentioned? you removed the hdd and then it didnt start properly?
[09:49] <mr_lou> Also can't invert my colours anymore
[09:50] <LibertyWeNeed> I have hdd back in now, and have got full screen terminal open
[09:50] <k1l_> then see "dmesg" if you can spot an issue there
[09:51] <LibertyWeNeed> it's too fast
[09:51] <LibertyWeNeed> how am I suppose to read
[09:51] <LibertyWeNeed> ?
[09:51] <k1l_> go up or down with pageup and pagedown
[09:52] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: what ubuntu is it exactly? what video card do you have? what driver was installed?
[09:53] <LibertyWeNeed> the latest current 15.04 I think… video card… hmmm not sure about that one. I am on lenovo mini 10
[09:55] <k1l_> well, that got a intel card and a intel atom if i found the right info
[09:55] <LibertyWeNeed> that sounds about right
[09:56] <Guest16826> my old notebook can support Ubuntu 15.10
[09:57] <LibertyWeNeed> It won't let me scroll with the pgUp or pgDn
[09:57] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: well can you install pastebinit? "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[09:57] <LibertyWeNeed> OK
 did anything happen when you install it?
[09:58] <LibertyWeNeed> ...
[09:58] <LibertyWeNeed> one moment plase
[09:58] <LibertyWeNeed> please
[09:58] <LibertyWeNeed> i think it's installed
[09:58] <LibertyWeNeed> mow
[09:58] <LibertyWeNeed> now
[09:59] <k1l_> ok then do a "pastebinit .xsession-errors"
[09:59] <k1l_> then please write the link in here, so we can have a look at that file
[09:59] <k1l_> same with "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[10:00] <varen_93> Hi everyone!
[10:01] <LibertyWeNeed> It says command not found
[10:01] <LibertyWeNeed> I know it's installed though
[10:02] <LibertyWeNeed> 12630884
[10:02] <LibertyWeNeed> that is the extension of the number
[10:03] <LibertyWeNeed> for the link
[10:03] <k1l_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12630884/  is the whole link?
[10:03] <LibertyWeNeed> yeah
[10:04] <LibertyWeNeed> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12630884/
[10:04] <k1l_> ok, now the second one please
[10:05] <mikhael_k33hl> Added an additional physical CPU to my server. Can't install Ubuntu 14.04 64bit. It says "kernel panic - attempted to to kill init.
[10:05] <LibertyWeNeed> ?
[10:05] <LibertyWeNeed> the second one??
[10:05] <loa> hello, can somebody with 15.04 show me output of command sudo systemctl status rsyslog.service ?
[10:05] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: <k1l_> same with "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[10:07] <LibertyWeNeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12630901
[10:08] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: "lsb_release -a | pastebinit"
[10:09] <LibertyWeNeed> no LSB moduls are available http://paste.ubuntu/com/12630910
[10:09] <LibertyWeNeed> oops wrong link
[10:09] <LibertyWeNeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12630901
[10:10] <LibertyWeNeed> wrong oops sorry
[10:10] <LibertyWeNeed> 12630910
[10:10] <zetheroo> I am trying to get the unity gdrive scope to work and not having much luck ...
[10:11] <zetheroo> does anyone have this working?
[10:11] <LibertyWeNeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12630910
[10:11] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: see, its 14.04 , not the latest 15.04
[10:11] <LibertyWeNeed> ok
[10:12] <LibertyWeNeed> what's the prognosis doctor?
[10:13] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: ok, i dont see any too suspicious so far. what did you do before that happened?
[10:13] <LibertyWeNeed> nothing
[10:13] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: can you choose the guest account on the login screen? does that work?
[10:13] <LibertyWeNeed> hmm…
[10:14] <k1l_> with ctrl+alt+f7 you get back to gui
[10:14] <k1l_> or do a "sudo service lightdm restart"
[10:17] <zetheroo> are you in  today?
[10:17] <LibertyWeNeed> I am in the GUI signed in as guest
[10:17] <LibertyWeNeed> it looks like it should now what?
[10:17] <LibertyWeNeed> do I do that command?
[10:17] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: everything working?
[10:17] <LibertyWeNeed> when I am signed in as guest
[10:18] <LibertyWeNeed> yeah
[10:18] <k1l_> LibertyWeNeed: ok then back to tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1)
[10:18] <k1l_> there log in as your regular user
[10:19] <k1l_> then do a "mv .config .configbackup" (that will move all user settings to a backup folder). then do a "sudo service lightdm restart" and try to login
[10:20] <aceruser712> hi guys
[10:20] <aceruser712> can i defrag windows-ntfs from ubuntu? thanks
[10:20] <phiona> do we need to register first before we can login to undernet?? they have this greeting me. LOGIN <username> <password>
[10:21] <cfhowlett> aceruser712, yes.  SHOULD you?  no.
[10:21] <k1l_> phiona: see the undernet website for instructions
[10:22] <aceruser712> cfhowlett:  i don't want  defrag ubuntu partition, only ntfs but not when i'm in windows but in ubuntu
[10:22] <cfhowlett> aceruser712, understood.  same answer.
[10:22] <aceruser712> do u know the commands?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=defrag+ntfs+linux&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
[10:23] <k1l_> aceruser712: i strongly suggest you defrag that from the windows install
[10:24] <cfhowlett> +1 ^^^
[10:25] <k1l_> aceruser712: there are some tools who try to defrag ntfs, but they are no real solution like the defrag that windows got. possible data loss at all programs i found so far.
[10:25] <k1l_> aceruser712: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59007/defragging-ntfs-partitions-from-linux  see this (and the warnings)
[10:25] <aceruser712> thanks
[10:26] <k1l_> aceruser712: again: better have a backup. you are warned :)
[10:26] <LibertyWeNeed> k1l_, thank you seems to be working with a bit of lag, will make a backup and then I will do a clean install. Thank you once again
[10:28] <aceruser712> k1l_: can i do a defrag of windows from cd boot?
[10:28] <aceruser712> windows cd i mean
[10:28] <k1l_> aceruser712: oh, i dont know about that
[10:28] <cfhowlett> aceruser712, ask ##windows for windows support
[10:28] <zetheroo> anyone know how the unity google drive scope is supposed to work? I have added my Google account to OA but search is not finding anything from the Google Drive
[10:29] <aceruser712> i need winzoz only for sky television, cause
[10:29] <aceruser712> it need silverlight
[10:29] <k1l_> aceruser712: so boot to windows and defrag from there
[10:29] <k1l_> aceruser712: or try pipelight
[10:30] <amit__> abhijain15: hi
[10:31] <amit__> pm
[10:31] <aceruser712> thanks a lot guys
[10:31] <aceruser712> good day at everyone
[10:31] <fluke_IT> anyone can help? i have problem with wifi card, it's working, but some time get crazy and connect/disconnect/connect/disconnet
[10:40] <fluke_IT> anyone can help? i have problem with wifi card, it's working, but some time get crazy and connect/disconnect/connect/disconnet
[10:42] <zetheroo> apparently one of the desktop features of Ubuntu is the ability to "use Google docs directly from your desktop." (http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features) I haven't found anything about how to actually do that apart from this https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/documents-view.html
[10:52] <gtristan> Ok so after doing the release upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04... I have the nasty HUD getting in the way again
[10:53] <gtristan> How do I disable the HUD ?
[10:53] <gtristan> google results point to changing the keyboard shortcut, I did so to make it something obscure I wouldnt type by accident
[10:53] <gtristan> but the super key still screws me with popping up obnoxious HUD
[10:54]  * gtristan assumes this is an FAQ around here
[10:57] <mr_lou> I managed to fix my resolution. This is the 2nd time updating packages has screwed up my screen resolution. But now I have another problem: I'm kicked out of X-session when I open most problems. Like Opera or VLC. For some reason Xchat and Firefox works fine. But opening other programs resets my X-session and brings me back to the login screen.
[10:57] <mr_lou> *problems = programs
[10:57] <mr_lou> Dunno what to google for with this particular problem.
[10:58] <mr_lou> Getting absolutely no work done today.
[11:00] <gtristan> hmmm, correction; changing the HUD shortcut changes the behavior of Super key press/release...
[11:01] <gtristan> instead of the [search ...] thing popping up on Super... the whole dash thing shows up (like as if I pressed the search button at the top of the unity panel)
[11:01] <gtristan> I use the keyboard *alot*, how do I get rid of that ?
[11:02] <gtristan> :)
[11:14] <Mark___> Are anyone here familiar with setting up a storage server environment?
[11:15] <cfhowlett> !server | Mark___ ask #ubuntu-server         ??
[11:16] <Mark___> @ubottu, thanks I will do.
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[11:17] <k1l_> Fedora: no bots in here, thanks
[11:17] <cfhowlett> Fedora, spam your own channels
[11:32] <ratrace> Looks like upgrading from 14.04 all the way through 15.10 has left upstart installed. Is it safe to remove it?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> ratrace, try sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:33] <knob> Hey guys, now that upstart is on the topic...  just for general knowledge, how was it that it evolved?   Has it been   init.d --> upstart --> systemd   ??
[11:34] <ratrace> cfhowlett: it doesn't show upstart suggested for removal
[11:34] <cfhowlett> ratrace, that suggests you should not remove it IMHO, but YMMV
[11:34] <TJ-> ratrace: try "apt-cache rpedends upstart" you'll see which packages require it
[11:35] <ntx001> ola ubuntuman!
[11:35] <ivali> Hello, is there a location where I can examine the contents of an ubuntu .iso ?
[11:35] <ivali> online
[11:35] <k1l_> knob: yes
[11:35] <ratrace> TJ-: cfhowlett: looks like it was safe to remove it. No other package was removed and after reboot everything works just fine.
[11:35] <cfhowlett> ratrace, cool.
[11:35] <TJ-> ratrace: there are some that haven't had their upstart/sysb-init scripts moved to systemd units so systemd has calls into them
[11:35] <knob> k1l_, cool...  just wondering.  Have been reading up on linux lately.
[11:35] <ratrace> (rebooted just in case to see if anything breaks in the init flow)
[11:36] <ratrace> TJ-: if there are, and those packages don't depend on upstart, I just broke my system, and it's a huge bug :)
[11:37] <ntx001> where's bug?
[11:37] <ratrace> though, upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 I saw all of the services attempting to communicate with (broken at that time) upstart socket.
[11:49] <Technobliterator> anyone know anything about USB speakers? I had some USB speakers which worked fine before, but after using a headset and switching back to speakers, they no longer work
[11:49] <Technobliterator> any fix?
[11:53] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator: quite likely your sound manager got confused with device priorities; I had that a few times when mixing various usb/bluetooth devices
[11:53] <Technobliterator> yeah, I think that's what happened
[11:53] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator: I'd have extra KDE hints from my system, but what generally works is pavucontrol
[11:54]  * Technobliterator sudo apt-get's it
[11:54] <cpaelzer> it is good to check which output sink is currently assigned to which program and lets you control it
[11:55] <Technobliterator> usb will be digital output  S/PDIF, right?
[11:55] <ubuntu842> hi, i need help with installing ubuntu on aspire ES 11 laptop please
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !install | ubuntu842
[11:55] <cpaelzer> no, it is quite often called something unbvious like "Defautl Stereo"
[11:56] <cpaelzer> you might want to check "aplay -l" for a brief overview
[11:56] <cpaelzer> or "pacmd list-sinks" for all you need (and more)
[11:56] <ubuntu842> i have tried installing it in lots of ways. i tried ubuntu 14.10, ubuntu 15.04 and linux mint 17.2; if i install it in uefi mode, at boot it does not recognize the boot device. if i install it in legacy mode, it boots into a black screen
[11:56] <Technobliterator> I can't find anything other than that one
[11:56] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | ubuntu842
[11:57] <ubuntu842> yes i have changed that one already
[11:57] <TJ-> ubuntu842: I seem to recall some reports of broken UEFI boot manager on the ES11
[11:57] <Technobliterator> yeah, and testing through here doesn't work
[11:57] <Technobliterator> I'm starting to think this problem isn't fixable
[11:57] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator: could you put the "pacmd list-sinks" to pastebin?
[11:57] <ubuntu842> i have also tried to use the boot repair
[11:58] <ubuntu842> but that hasn't work
[11:58] <ubuntu842> i have no internet connection with the laptop
[11:58] <Technobliterator> cpaelzer, http://pastebin.com/Fhmb4u9A
[11:59] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator, your sound system doesn't even know about the device
[11:59] <cpaelzer> so it has to be an issue a few levels below
[11:59] <cpaelzer> like broken cable, ...
[11:59] <cpaelzer> what do you see in dmesg when you unplug&plug the usb speakers?
[11:59] <ubuntu842> when i install it in uefi mode, it says "no bootable device found". when i install in legacy, it finds the ubuntu, but even with nomodeset it boots into a black screen
[12:00] <ubuntu842> or it goes to "loading initial ramdisk.." and gets stuck theer
[12:00] <TJ-> ubuntu842: does the installer boot in UEFI mode?
[12:01] <ubuntu842> yes, with nomodeset
[12:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu842, suggestion: lubuntu.  it's optimized for older/slower/low spec devices
[12:01] <TJ-> ubuntu842: OK, so the installer starts, do you use the "Try Ubuntu" method of starting it?
[12:01] <ubuntu842> i recently installed it on a very similar device with similar specs, it must have to do with the particular model and the bios that came with it. i also tried updating the bios in windows before installing linux, but that didn't change anything
[12:02] <ubuntu842> no, because when i did that it asked me for login details for some reason, so i directly had to go to install
[12:02] <TJ-> ubuntu842: if the installer asks that, the installer image is corrupt
[12:02] <cfhowlett> ubuntu842, wait, what?  that's not normal ubuntu.
[12:02] <cfhowlett> md5sum your .iso and your USB
[12:04] <Technobliterator> cpaelzer, turned off: http://pastebin.com/Gx4Jq3dk turned on: http://pastebin.com/Grw7z5Ep
[12:06] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator, well the only thing changing there is a network link which surely aren't your speakers :-)
[12:07] <cpaelzer> there should have been sometihng like "usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio"
[12:07] <cpaelzer> but it is not even showing any USB activity
[12:07] <Technobliterator> Oh, I just turned the speakers off at the back, I didn't unplug them
[12:07] <Technobliterator> do you want me to completely unplug?
[12:08] <cpaelzer> yeah I thought so, just to see what pops up
[12:08] <cpaelzer> after replugging you could also have a look at lsusb -v and check if they show up
[12:09] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator, this is an example from my usb audio dev "Bus 002 Device 008: ID 08bb:2702 Texas Instruments Speakers" from the lsusb output
[12:09] <cpaelzer> but I don't have much hope, your dmesg isn't wrapped and it didn't report anything related since boot
[12:10] <cpaelzer> So I'd still assume HW issue like bad cable
[12:11] <xStark> Guys, my keyboard is acting weird since I ave installed Ubuntu
[12:12] <Technobliterator> unplugged: http://pastebin.com/1U5Q3yjU
[12:12] <xStark> When my caps lock is on, it shows me small letters and when my caps lock is off, it shows me capital letters
[12:12] <destan> batoonnbba
[12:12] <xStark> can anyone help me with this
[12:12] <Technobliterator> it's very possible that it's a hardware issue, but I think if it is, it's a very odd one
[12:12] <TJ-> xStark: are there 2 keyboards connected?
[12:12] <destan> slm
[12:12] <destan> kmsin
[12:12] <cfhowlett> destan, in English please ...
[12:12] <destan> where are
[12:13] <xStark> TJ-: Yup. One is the keyboard on the laptop and the other is a wireless one.
[12:13] <destan> how are you
[12:13] <cfhowlett> destan, this is ubuntu support.  ask your support question.
[12:13] <TJ-> xStark: This happens when the keyboards get out of sync. on the 'other' keyboard press the CapsLock key
[12:13] <cfhowlett> TJ-, so best to disable one KB or the other, I assume?
[12:14] <TJ-> xStark: you may have to toggle the keys on either/both a few times to get the thing to behave correctly!
[12:14] <TJ-> cfhowlett: Usually its a temporary issue caused by using both keyboards during startup
[12:14] <xStark> TJ-: I randomly press caps lock on both keyboards? Do I have to do it one time, or just everytime I log in
[12:14] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator, it matches the former data - the kernel isn't seeing anything of the unplug - it should look like this (unplugging&plugging mine) ...
[12:14] <Technobliterator> hm
[12:15] <TJ-> xStark: find out if that process fixes the issue first
[12:15] <xStark> TJ- Alright
[12:15] <cfhowlett> TJ-, I just started using a wireless KB.  haven't experience that kind of conflict, but good advice to know.
[12:15] <Technobliterator> so it simply can't pick up the device?
[12:15] <xStark> Ok I toggled the keys
[12:15] <xStark> so far so good
[12:16] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator, yes it doesn't realize anything is changing - see my example at http://pastebin.com/Die9F7Sz
[12:16] <xStark> cfhowlett: I've used this logitech keyboard of mine in both windows 7 and 8.1 and 8. It's good actually. Even has a trackpad on the keyboard :P
[12:16] <TJ-> xStark: when the PC boots do you make use of both keyboards up to log-in ?
[12:16] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator, obvious next steps would be, keep the speakers switched on - but exchange cables, use other USB Ports, avoid using USB-Hubs in between and so on
[12:17] <Technobliterator> I'll see if any other USB ports work
[12:17] <Technobliterator> but I might have to give up hope and use headphones
[12:17] <xStark> TJ-: Well usually, when I boot, both keyboards are connected. I usually use just any one keyboard to log in
[12:17] <xStark> Oh god, now it's displaying random spaces
[12:17]  * cfhowlett wishes he could get his shiny, new wacom intuos tablet o work ...
[12:18] <xStark> wacom intuos?
[12:18] <xStark> I've never heard of it.
[12:18] <TJ-> xStark: OK... this can sometimes happen through using both during the boot process, especially if you use say a built-in keyboard whilst the firmware (UEFI/BIOS) is in control
[12:18] <cpaelzer> Technobliterator, I couldn't live without a range of speakers, headsets, full-amps on my computer so I encourage you to not giev up :-) Give me a ping if you find anything in further dmesg/lsusb about the speakers
[12:18] <Technobliterator> yeah, I'd be lost without them too
[12:18] <Technobliterator> lmao
[12:18] <Technobliterator> thanks for help
[12:19] <xStark> TJ-: You're saying I just use the normal keyboard till I login and then connect the wireless one?
[12:19] <xStark> connect the wireless one later*
[12:21] <TJ-> xStark: No, I'm just trying to get accurate information of what permutation of keyboard usage might be causing this, CapsLock state is a shared state across all input devices assigned to the same seat
[12:21] <xStark> TJ-: Right.
[12:22] <TJ-> xStark: I've seen this happen sometimes when the Shift key is used on the built-in keyboard! But if you're getting random characters (you said space) appearing that suggests a deeper input device issue
[12:23] <TJ-> xStark: as it is a wireless external keyboard my first, very strong, recommendation is to check the battery charge level and either but in fresh batteries or recharge them fully
[12:23] <xStark> TJ-: Yeah I have 2 problems. One, as you know caps lock. And the other problem being random spaces being displayed (This has happened just two times)
[12:24] <xStark> TJ-: Alright. Usually I use the keyboard till the battery is dead in Windows and such a thing has never occured. But maybe you're right this time.
[12:24] <TJ-> xStark: I've had it happen with Bluetooth keyboards occassionally, and BT mice setting off on their own :)
[12:25] <xStark> Oh, I see
[12:25] <xStark> I've also had this problem in Ubuntu on not being able to control screen brightness
[12:26] <xStark> It seems it occurs only in some cases
[12:26] <xStark> I had to create this intel configuration file and it was fine.
[12:26] <TJ-> xStark: brightness often requires a 'platform' driver since each system seems to do it its own way. It may be you need to alter the default kernel setting to find the correct parameter
[12:27] <xStark> Oh, I see
[12:28] <xStark> Well I gotta agree, Ubuntu is way faster than windows :P
[12:31] <TJ-> xStark: see the acpi_backlight kernel parameter at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[12:32] <xStark> Thanks. But like I said before, I fixed it xD
[12:40] <xStark> TJ-: The keyboard problem with the caps lock still persists...
[12:40] <xStark> I had to restart
[12:41] <dratsab> xStark: maybe bios problem
[12:42] <xStark> What?
[12:42] <dratsab> xStark: most bios have caps lock settings
[12:42] <xStark> oh, I see
[12:42] <xStark> What do you think I should do
[12:43] <dratsab> xStark: what is wrong with your caps lock
[12:44] <xStark> well when caps lock is on, it gives me small letters, and when caps lock is off, it gives me big letters
[12:44] <xStark> and yeah, I do use a wireless keyboard
[12:45] <TJ-> xStark: this affects the output of both keyboards at the same time, or only one?
[12:45] <ioria> !info xdotool
[12:45] <xStark> TJ-: Both keyboards
[12:46] <TJ-> xStark: and Caps Lock is on at the initial greeter log-in?
[12:46] <xStark> TJ-: Nope, it's switch off.
[12:46] <xStark> switched*
[12:46] <TJ-> xStark: So it comes on 'randomly' after you start typing on the wireless keyboard?
[12:47] <xStark> TJ-: Yeah. I'll be typing something and randomly everything becomes capitals even though its showing that caps lock is on. And also I'll be having trouble navigating through applications.
[12:48] <dratsab> xStark: try changing it on the wired keyboard. Look in bios for keyboard settings to.
[12:48] <dratsab> xStark: sounds like dead batteries
[12:49] <TJ-> xStark: does this happen when your fingers are whizzing all over the keyboard, or even when you type slow and methodically?
[12:49] <xStark> TJ-: I type fast, I barely type slowly..so yeah..
[12:50] <xStark> I'll try changing the batteries too
[12:50] <xStark> Just a second brb
[12:50] <TJ-> xStark: I'm wondering if you've one of those sensitive keyboard where the vibration/bounce actually causes the key to physically operate, or if you're somehow catching the CapsLock slightly. I'd try wedging a piece of card under the outside edge of the key to prevent accidental activation and then see if the problem continues. That'd rule that in/out
[12:52] <moijk> I got a 500gb disk. I want to put windows and linux on it. Last time I set up dualboot was in a different decade. Any "within sector" requirement or anything else that would make a 40/60 or 50/50 split a bad idea? I have no idea how much windows wants this days.
[12:52] <dratsab> TJ-: it also could be just a buggy application xStark
[12:53] <xStark> What buggy application. I just got Ubuntu yesterday, dratsab.
[12:53] <xStark> Changed my batteries by the way.
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | moijk
[12:54] <dratsab> xStark: is it persistent in all applications or just one of them.
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> moijk: or make your life easy, and install ubuntu single and windows from virtualbox after
[12:54] <xStark> moijik: Well if you ask me, Windows needs more space than Ubuntu. Like you said, God alone knows how big Windows' updates etc are...
[12:54] <xStark> dratsab: In all applications.
[12:55] <xStark> moijik: I have a 1TB hard drive. I've let like 700GB for Windows and some 200GB for Ubuntu.
[12:56] <dratsab> xStark: is it Bluetooth or rf keyboard. And how far away are you using it.
[12:56] <TJ-> xStark: I'm wondering if you need a bt-coexist option enabling on the Wifi side
[12:56] <dratsab> TJ-: what
[12:56] <xStark> moijik: It also depends on your usage. Me, I've used Windows on the same computer without formatting it and I've barely used 50GB files xD
[12:57] <xStark> dratsab: Bluetooth
[12:57] <xStark> TJ-: I have no idea what that is..
[12:57] <TJ-> xStark: which wifi device is it? "lspci -nn" - show me the line for the Wifi device
[12:57] <xStark> dratsab: My wireless keyboard is literally next to it
[12:58] <xStark> TJ-: Just a second
[12:58] <xStark> TJ-: I just ran than in the Terminal, literally something 1 page big showed up.
[12:58] <TJ-> xStark: Bluetooth operates in the same frequency band as 802.11bgn (2.4GHz) but uses a different form of spread-spectrum algorithm. Wifi and BT will interfere with each other. Some Wifi chipsets have a bot-coexist' option that can reduce interference (since Wifi signals are much more powerful than Bluetooth)
[12:59] <TJ-> s/bot-coexist/bt-coexist/
[13:00] <xStark> TJ-: No file/directory s/bot-coexist/bt-coexist
[13:00] <TJ-> xStark: no, it isn't a file or directory, it is an option for some wifi kernel modules
[13:00] <DexterF> hi
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> DexterF: welcome
[13:01] <TJ-> xStark: this is why I need to know which Wifi device the PC has
[13:01] <DexterF> how "vanilla" is the Snappy Ubuntu 4.2 kernel?
[13:01] <LibertyWeNeed> Hi, What do I need to install specifically to follow this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSiIHe2uZ2w
[13:01] <xStark> TJ-: If you're wondering, the wifi router is just above me. I'm using ethernet atm. This keyboard as never done this before.
[13:01] <LibertyWeNeed> the website looks different to when the video was recorder
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> DexterF: maybe a question for the #snappy channel?
[13:01] <DexterF> 4.2 has spanking new code for a certain DVB receiver I'd like to run on a Pi2, but will it be just like vanilla?
[13:01] <LibertyWeNeed> recorded
[13:01] <DexterF> lotuspsychje: ouh :)
[13:01] <xStark> TJ-: I did run lspci -nn Do you wanna see the output?   If that were the issue, you can't do anything about by changing a wifi setting
[13:13] <xStark> TJ-: I see. I've changed the batteries with fresh ones. So far so good. Let's see what happens.
[13:13] <Eat-Marmitte> Hello Guys
[13:13] <Eat-Marmitte> Which is the Irc command to know about a user the other nicknames that this user has used ?
[13:14] <xStark> I don't know that
[13:14] <TJ-> xStark: the only way I can think to test the hypothesis of interference is to temporarily disable the Wifi radio using "rfkill", use the wired Ethernet for a while, and see if the keyboard still mis-behaves. If it does with the WiFi radio not operating, the issue is unlikely to be coexistence - unless the Wireless AP/router is VERY close too
[13:14] <telboon> anyone runs docky with lower niceness? I feel that standard niceness isn't snappy enough
[13:15] <xStark> TJ-: I'm using ethernet ever since I've installed Linux yesterday... I told you that before.
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:15] <TJ-> xStark: sorry, I must have missed that! So if the behaviour continues, you could safely disable the wifi radio
[13:16] <xStark> Eat-Marmitte: You can get to know the list of nicknames registered under your nickname by using "/ns glist"
[13:16] <xStark> I don't think you can check it for others..
[13:17] <xStark> TJ-: Nah, it's not a problem... The solution will prevail when the time is right ;)
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Hey lotuspsychje
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> telboon: docky doesnt perform well?
[13:20] <telboon> lotuspsychje on high load, it isn't as snappy as i would like it to be
[13:20] <telboon> when cpu goes >50% it's not as smooth
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | telboon install this mate
[13:20] <telboon> when i renice it, the priority stays the same though
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> telboon: maybe a system cleanup would be also nice
[13:20] <lubarch> is it good to disable xset -dpms i don't want screen blanking i tried xset s off but it wasn't worked
[13:20] <telboon> lotuspsychje hmm. let me take a look
[13:21] <telboon> lotuspsychje it works perfect on low load though
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> telboon: whats your garfix card like? + driver?
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> grafix
[13:22] <telboon> intel internal graphics. lol
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> telboon: ubuntu version?
[13:23] <telboon> lotuspsychje hmm. how do i check? probably ubuntu. i didn't install new drivers
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> telboon: lsb_release -a
[13:24] <xStark> telboon: Just go to "About this computer"
[13:24] <telboon> no LSB modules are available
[13:25] <xStark> telboon: Select the About This Computer under the menu where you switch off your PC
[13:25] <k1l> telboon: lsb_release -d
[13:25] <telboon> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[13:25] <telboon> About computer writes: Intel® Ironlake Mobile
[13:25] <xStark> Latest LTS version
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> telboon: try the preload and reboot please, see if overal load on docky performs better
[13:27] <telboon> alright. thanks lotuspsychje and xStark!
[13:27] <xStark> No problem
[13:28] <k1l> xStark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal  or use the search on that help wiki page
[13:29] <xStark> ty
[13:33] <spoonman_> good morning, all
[13:33] <xStark> Morning
[13:34] <spoonman_> is there an ubuntu offtopic channel?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> !ot | spoonman_
[13:34] <spoonman_> thank you!
[13:37] <killall> Hello im trying to put nagios 4.1.1 and ndo 2
[13:37] <killall> [1443706581] ndomod: Successfully reconnected to data sink!  0 items lost, 878 queued items to flush.
[13:37] <killall> [1443706581] ndomod: Error writing to data sink!  Some output may get lost.  711 queued items to flush.
[13:38] <killall> i only get this and nothing on ndo2 ddebug
[13:39] <blacklord> yop
[13:39] <blacklord> quelqu'un ?
[13:40] <Pici> !fr
[13:41] <mustmodify_> so I ran `sudo memtester 1G 200` ... is that a large enough attempt size to assume it tested all of my 24G of RAM?
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> killall: maybe the #nagios channel can help?
[13:44] <killall> ok thks
[13:53] <Krispy> say does anyone know of a free vpn/proxie for ubuntu?
[13:57] <zalehack> salut
[13:58] <xStark> TJ-: Well it seems that if I use my wireless keyboard to log onto Ubuntu, the problem persists. But if I log into Ubuntu using normal keyboard and then connect wireless keyboard and use it, it's fine.
[14:03] <sourav> hi
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> sourav: welcome
[14:04] <sourav> any body can guide me about mysql
[14:04] <sourav> thanks
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | sourav
[14:04] <Pici> sourav: what about it?
[14:05] <tykayn> yup
[14:05] <sonderless> hello everyone
[14:05] <alazare619> on a ubuntu mini install for some reason im now getting on any apt-get install
[14:05] <alazare619> errors were encountered while processing : systemd
[14:05] <sourav> I want to take all data from a server database
[14:05] <alazare619> prior to that policykit1 always has errors during the update/upgrade
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> sonderless: welcome
[14:06] <sonderless> hi all, i'm having an issue with the window picker (scale option in compiz) can anyone help?
[14:07] <sonderless> hi zzarr
[14:07] <sonderless> hi yeticry
[14:07] <bazhang> sonderless, dont greet everyone like that
[14:08] <alazare619> it appears https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1447654 bug is back
[14:08] <xStark> Ubuntu ftw
[14:09] <sonderless> is there anyone that could help me with a compiz issue, i've exhausted looking through forums...?
[14:09] <tykayn> maybe
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> sonderless: maybe the #compiz guys might know?
[14:10] <sonderless> thanks lotuspsychje
[14:12] <blah-> hello
[14:13] <sonderless> #compiz doesn't seem to be that active, i'll pose my question here
[14:13] <rrr> how to display unicode in terminal and browser?
[14:13] <sonderless> i'm having an issue that whenever I use a hot corner or key combo to view all the windows in my workspace, it just logs me out... does any one know how to fix this?  i've searched forums for about 2 hours
[14:14] <sonderless> running ubuntu 14.04
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> sonderless: check your syslog or dmesg for errors, maybe compiz crash?
[14:14] <rrr> which package is for unicode display and input?
[14:15] <tykayn> rrr : you don't see choices in edit > profil setting ?
[14:15] <sonderless> thanks lotus
[14:15] <tykayn> rrr : my bad, it is in the Terminal menu > caracter encoding
[14:16] <sonderless> i am still novice at linux, that's mostly just jibberish to me... but it seems like a common issue on the forums...
[14:17] <gioans> #ubuntu-vn
[14:17] <tykayn> compiz is a hazardous thing
[14:17] <austin__> abiel
[14:17] <sonderless> i only want compiz for the window selector (like mac has) other than that I don't need any other features
[14:18] <sonderless> is there another way to accomplish a window selector without using compiz?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> sonderless: try a tail -f /var/log/dmesg from terminal for realtime debugging, then try your compiz thing
[14:18] <sourav> please help me
[14:18] <tykayn> for a window selector you can alt tab
[14:18] <austin__> hi all...i launch a chroot via sudo and would like to install a package for a different user in the chroot. is this possible?
[14:18] <qrtn> sonderless: alt-tab? -_-
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !chroot | austin__
[14:19] <sonderless> i know alt tab, i just love being able to see all my windows and pick the one i want
[14:19] <sourav> should I use mysqldump
[14:19] <loa> what is right way to load modules under ubuntu? for example i need "xpad"
[14:19] <loa> what i need to do?
[14:19] <tykayn> personnally I would love to have a shortcut like in windows to enable a projector / other screen
[14:19] <tykayn> with the windows button + p
[14:20] <austin__> ok thanks