[01:15] <mtaylor> is there a sensible way to specifiy how to find tarballs hosted on launchpad in a debian/watch file for use with uscan?
[01:16] <mtaylor> this link: http://launchpad.net/quoins/1.0/1.0.14/+download/Quoins-1.0.14.tar.gz - translated to this: http://launchpad.net/quoins/1.0/(.*)/+download/Quoins-(.*)\.tar\.gz didn't quite work out
[01:18] <spiv> mtaylor: I guess you could screenscrape https://edge.launchpad.net/quoins/+download
[01:18] <spiv> s/edge.//
[01:18] <mtaylor> hrm
[01:18] <spiv> It would be good to do better than that, though.
[01:18] <mtaylor> yes. I don't really want to do that
[01:19] <spiv> Working nicely with debian/watch files sounds like a useful feature.
[01:19] <mtaylor> I'm honestly suprised it hasn't come up already
[01:19] <spiv> Perhaps file a bug report for that?
[01:19] <mtaylor> ok
[01:39] <mtaylor> done
[01:40] <spiv> mtaylor: thanks!
[01:41] <mtaylor> my pleasure - always love creating work for folks
[01:44] <spiv> :)
[07:36] <lpd79> Hi all, I have a question about PPA. Would this be a good place to ask?
[07:43] <RAOF> lpd79: Yes.
[07:45] <thumper> some would say this is the best place to ask
[07:54] <lpd79> OK, I have a source package with the latest changelog entry pointing to unstable
[07:55] <lpd79> I uploaded it to ~lpname/ubuntu/hardy
[07:55] <lpd79> and it created hardy packages
[07:55] <lpd79> But when I tried to upload the same package to ~lpname/ubuntu/gutsy, I got a reject
[07:56] <lpd79> Is this not a good way to create binaries for both gutsy and hardy from the same source package?
[07:58] <lpd79> I learned this method (~lpname/ubuntu/distro) from https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart
[07:59] <lpd79> The reject said "is already accepted in ubuntu/hardy and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. You have to modify the source version and re-upload"
[07:59] <lpd79> But I'm quite sure I uploaded to ~lpname/ubuntu/gutsy
[07:59] <lpd79> OK, I'll stop now :)
[08:00] <RAOF> lpd79: I'm not sure, but I _think_ you can copy from sections of your PPA now.
[08:01] <RAOF> However, yes.  You need to make source changes (namely, change the distribution and version) to upload to more than one pocket.
[08:02] <lpd79> Ah, I found the copy packages, I'll give it a spin
[08:02] <lpd79> Thanks RAOF
[08:02] <lpd79> Though I think uploading to a different directory (implying a different section) should ideally work
[08:09] <lpd79> Oops. I did Copy packages, and it queued them for Gutsy. Then I reloaded the page (in Opera, this would be a GET request, even if the initial form was a POST)
[08:10] <lpd79> And now there are two pending packages for the same destination (Gutsy). Looks like launchpad doesn't have GET idempotence
[08:10] <lpd79> And there seems to be no way to cancel a request
[08:12] <RAOF> Oops
[08:45] <wgrant> lpd79: Your browser is bad. It's a POST request, and at least Firefox prompts about it.
[08:46] <wgrant> And I believe there are tests to ensure that GET requests don't mutate anything.
[09:10] <Hobbsee> oh goody.  time to write another hate mail.
[09:10] <\sh> Hobbsee, hmm?
[09:12] <Hobbsee> \sh: something along the lines of the janitor expiring questions, and hte LP devs not answering them.  if the LP devs arent' going to answer questions in a set time, then fine, but don't set the janitor to auto expire the questions, just because the LP devs didn't respond.
[09:12] <\sh> nasty
[09:13]  * Hobbsee really shouldn't have to keep going back and saying "yes, this is still an issue.  it doesn't not become an issue, because the people supposed to be answering them ignored it"
[09:13] <Hobbsee> can understand that people are busy, but then, turn off the janitor for questions that have never had a response....
[09:14] <philn> hi
[09:14] <gmb_> Morning philn.
[09:14] <thumper> Hobbsee: make sure mrevell knows as he can bring it up in the team meeting
[09:15] <Hobbsee> thumper: will do, thanks.
[09:15] <Hobbsee> thumper: sorry to be complaining again :)
[09:16] <philn> how was the weekend?
[09:21] <thumper> Hobbsee: np
[09:21] <mrevell> hi Hobbsee
[09:22] <Hobbsee> hey mrevell :)
[09:22] <mrevell> Hobbsee: How are you?
[09:23] <Hobbsee> mrevell: annoyed at the LP janitor, but otherwise good.  and lamenting the fact that i don't still have a gutsy install, so i'm not quite sure what i'm going to do for voip for UDS.
[09:23] <mrevell> Hobbsee: What's happening with the LP janitor?
[09:23] <Hobbsee> mrevell: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/29988
[09:23]  * mrevell looks
[09:23] <Hobbsee> mrevell: LP admins aren't answering quickly enough, so janitor keeps doing its' job.
[09:25] <mrevell> Hobbsee: I can understand that would be frustrating. I could really do with speaking to Tom and Herb, the LP admins, to understand what's happening. They won't be around for another five to eight hours. Do you mind giving me some time to speak to them?
[09:26] <Hobbsee> mrevell: not at all.  i'm actually somewhat amused, and regarding it as a science experiment as to how long it takes to get it fixed.
[09:26] <Hobbsee> mrevell: (if this is the case with this one, is it also the case with other requests on that answer tracker?  what does that mean for launchpad support?)
[09:27] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Heh, well, I'm glad the janitor's amused you :) I'm sorry, though, that you're frustrated by it.
[09:27] <mrevell> Hobbsee: As for LP support
[09:27] <Hobbsee> mrevell: the bug is closed, so there is little urgency, per se, for that particular request - so it is more easy for it to be amusing.
[09:27] <Hobbsee> for some reason, he hasn't repeated it elsewhere
[09:28] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Have you had this with other questions, or just this one?
[09:28] <Hobbsee> mrevell: i've only filed a couple of questions, so...
[09:29] <Hobbsee> mrevell: my email (@ubuntu.com question) and merge accounts got done pretty quickly, iirc.
[09:29] <Hobbsee> but they were 1+ years ago, too.
[09:29] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Okay, cool. I'll have a chat with Tom or Herb and get back to you on that. I know the whole team is incredibly busy right now, so that may be leading to a slow-down.
[09:30] <Hobbsee> mrevell: likely.  suggest that you look at turning the janitor off for those incredibly busy times, then :)
[09:30] <mrevell> Hobbsee: With these sorts of things - y'know, if there's an Answers request that's not getting attention - mail me using<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(because a few people see that) - and I can always try to get it pushed up the queue.
[09:30] <Hobbsee> mrevell: true.  OTOH, it's of limited importance, so....
[09:30] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Yes, that's one suggestion. I'll see what Tom and Herb say, before I make any of my own :)
[09:31] <Hobbsee> (but, i will remember that)
[09:31] <spiv> Well, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+questions?field.sort=RELEVANCY&field.actions.search=Search&field.status=EXPIRED finds 104 expired questions.  The first one is very similar to Hobbsee's case, I haven't looked at the others.
[09:32] <spiv> s/104/103/
[09:32] <Hobbsee> spiv: is there a more granular search for that?
[09:32] <spiv> I guess it should be possible to do a DB query to find all the questions that are expired but have no responses from anyone but the janitor.
[09:32] <Hobbsee> spiv: ie, is there a way to search for those that never got a response?
[09:33] <spiv> Maybe for answers the janitor should never expire questions with no response?
[09:33] <Hobbsee> spiv: yeah, i mean, that's the part that i'm really worried about.  if no one's ever seen it, there's potentially something rather important there, which just gets expired, so falls through the crack.
[09:33] <Hobbsee> er, cracks.
[09:33] <spiv> Hobbsee: there isn't a more granular search that I know of
[09:34] <spiv> (Short of getting a DBA to poke at things with SQL directly, anyway)
[09:34] <Hobbsee> spiv: 6/7 from the top of that list got expired without a response.
[09:34] <Hobbsee> spiv: might be worth a sql query, because i'm thinking mine isn't isolated :)
[09:35] <Hobbsee> the other one looks like the guy solved his own problem.
[09:35] <spiv> That doesn't sound good.
[09:35]  * Hobbsee looks for a few more
[09:35] <Hobbsee> another one with a double expiry.
[09:36] <Hobbsee> x2
[09:36] <Hobbsee> x3
[09:37] <Hobbsee> spiv: so that's 15/16 questions that got incorrectly expired, with no response, including 3 of them which got reopened, and then expired again.  ouch.
[09:37] <Hobbsee> mrevell: looks like you have some very fun talking to do  :)
[09:37] <gmb> spiv, Hobbsee, mrevell: The current logic for the bug janitor is that we only expire bugs that have been incomplete and have had no response for n days. I see no reason (off the top of my uninformed head) why we can't do that for answers, too.
[09:38] <Hobbsee> gmb: yeah, i can't say i see the rationale in expiring questions that have never had a response at all.
[09:38] <Hobbsee> gmb: i would have expected it to behave exactly as you suggest.
[09:39] <spiv> gmb: yeah, me too.
[09:40] <spiv> gmb: (off the top of my also uninformed head)
[09:41] <telemaco> how can i remove sources from my ppa ? (i delete it in actions menu)
[09:42] <philn> gmb: got news for me? ;) elisa import doesn't seem to be on demo.lp anymore?
[09:42] <gmb> spiv: It looks like finding the expirable questions is done an a big hunk'o'SQL; it shouldn't be too hard to add a "hasn't been commented on" clause
[09:43] <Hobbsee> gmb: that's probably a "we don't want to add this" problem, rather than a "hard to solve" problem, though.
[09:43] <cprov> telemaco: that's it, they will be removed from the archive pool as soon as they are not used in other packages.
[09:43] <gmb> philn: So, the database has been reset (there were other, sundry issues at the end of last week that delayed that). once one of our Sysadmins comes online this afternnon I'll get a reimport done and we can proceed from there.
[09:43] <gmb> philn: Sorry for the delay; unfortunately our sysadmins are 6-8 hours behind me ;)
[09:44] <telemaco> cprov:  this package is not used by other packages
[09:44] <philn> hehe.. no problem
[09:44] <gmb> Hobbsee: How do you mean?
[09:44] <telemaco> cprove: is there any way to clean the "cache" ?
[09:45] <cprov> telemaco: can you point me to the file and PPA in question, please ?
[09:45] <Hobbsee> gmb: if that's the main contact method for getting in touch with launchpad people to get stuff done, having an indication of how many of those requests are getting ignored isn't something that you want to give easy statistics on, from a marketing perspective.
[09:45] <telemaco> cprov: sure
[09:45] <Hobbsee> gmb: (if the statistics aren't good)
[09:45] <telemaco> gprov : https://launchpad.net/~roberto-majadas/
[09:45] <spiv> Hobbsee: well, if publish the statistics, we have an incentive to make them good ;)
[09:46] <spiv> (an extra incentive, that is)
[09:46] <Hobbsee> spiv: sure, but the problem, i thought, was that your people were too busy to answer - no real point in stressing them more like that.
[09:47] <gmb> Hobbsee: I don't think that that's the reason for it not being implemented that way; my suspicion is that this is a bug rather than a somewhat cynical feature.
[09:47] <gmb> After all, sweeping the problem under the carpet rarely helps.
[09:47] <Hobbsee> gmb: oh, i'm sure it is, but it's not one that might be a good one to fix :P
[09:48] <Hobbsee> true, that.
[09:48] <spiv> Hobbsee: well, personally I don't believe in sweeping problems under the carpet :)
[09:48] <gmb> Hobbsee: I'll file a bug and discuss it with the PTB.
[09:48] <Hobbsee> gmb: sorry, PTB?
[09:49] <Hobbsee> spiv: true.  just thinking of workloads and such :)
[09:49] <gmb> Hobbsee: Powers That Be
[09:49] <spiv> If it really is true that we simply can't deal with all those questions (I have no idea if that's true or not), we should probably just stop inviting questions.
[09:49] <Hobbsee> gmb: ahhh
[09:50] <spiv> (Although I suspect it isn't true)
[09:50] <spiv> Anyway, dinner time.
[09:50] <Hobbsee> mmm, dinner.
[09:51] <spiv> Hobbsee: I recommend it!
[09:51] <spiv> It is an excellent meal.
[09:51] <Hobbsee> spiv: but i just had lunch!
[09:58] <gmb> Hobbsee: bug 231861
[09:59] <Hobbsee> gmb: i hope that bug doesn't get set to incomplete, and left...
[10:00] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:00] <gmb> Oh, the irony.
[10:00] <gmb> Hobbsee: I'll make sure it doesn't.
[10:00] <Hobbsee> yes :)
[10:00] <telemaco> cprov: https://launchpad.net/~roberto-majadas/
[10:03] <cprov> telemaco: http://ppa.launchpad.net/roberto-majadas/ looks pretty empty to me. Isn't it what you want ?
[10:15] <telemaco> cprov: i try to upload a sources, but launchpad said me : Rejected: The source mobile-manager - 0.1-1 is already accepted in ubuntu/hardy and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. You have to modify the source version and re-upload.
[10:16] <cprov> telemaco: yes, as said in the help text for +delete-packages, deleting a source doesn't allow it to re-upload it
[10:16] <cprov> telemaco: source versions are "blacklisted" once they are uploaded.
[10:17] <telemaco> cprov: so i've to update a bigger versions, haven't i ?
[10:18] <cprov> yes, a higher version will be accepted.
[10:19] <Hobbsee> cprov: please, you can't accept anyone to actually understand what's in the help text there.
[10:20] <Hobbsee> cprov: even wgrant and i had trouble understanding what it meant, and only understood it partially, iirc.
[10:20] <Hobbsee> it looks like the text from in a blueprint, which is fine for a soyuz dev, but doesn't make good user doc.
[10:21] <telemaco> cprov: thanks :)
[10:21] <Hobbsee> (if, they somehow manage to find it in the first place, which, iirc, mpt already filed a bug on)
[10:22] <cprov> Hobbsee: you can always file a bug ...
[10:22] <Hobbsee> cprov: about the doc being hard to understand?  yes, i could.
[10:22] <mpt> I don't remember a bug report about that in particular
[10:22] <Hobbsee> mpt: the left hand side help slide-out panel.
[10:23] <mpt> on which page?
[10:23] <Hobbsee> mpt: https://edge.launchpad.net/~hobbsee/+archive/+delete-packages
[10:24] <Hobbsee> mpt: and the "Read the page help to understand how removals work.", and people going "so, where's the help page?"
[10:26] <mpt> I don't have permission to view that page
[10:26]  * mpt looks for a local version
[10:26] <Hobbsee> mpt: if you have your own archive,or a team that you're in does, that would work too
[10:29] <mpt> Hobbsee, you're right, I did report that
[10:30] <mpt> bug 195984
[10:33] <Hobbsee> mpt: ah good, so i'm *not* going insane :)
[10:34] <mpt> I don't remember all the bugs I've reported
[10:34] <mpt> sometimes I go to report a bug and find it was already reported by some Matthew Paul Thomas person
[10:35] <Hobbsee> cprov: added to ^
[10:35] <Hobbsee> mpt: heh :)
[10:35] <cprov> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:48] <joyrom> hi all
[12:49] <joyrom> any italian?
[12:52]  * warp10 raises an hand
[14:58] <thekorn> hi, when is the new date-left-new attribute in the +text view of a bug triggered?
[14:59] <wgrant> thekorn: At a guess, when the bug leaves New? Or is that clear meaning not correlating with the empirical data?
[15:02] <thekorn> wgrant, ok, sounds good, isn't this date equal to date-{triaged,inprogress,confirmed}
[15:02] <thekorn> one of these
[15:03] <thekorn> as out-of-new always means one of this status or fixed
[15:04] <wgrant> Or Incomplete, I guess.
[15:05] <thekorn> ok, thanks
[15:29] <chips> hallo...ich habe eine Frage zu Launchpad und E-Mail Notification... und zwar wuesste ich gerne wie ich die Notification deaktivier, da ich dadurch am Tag bestimmt 20 -30 Mails erhalte...
[15:43] <chips> hi...can anybody help me, please...
[15:47] <gmb> chips: What's your launchpad username?
[15:56] <chips> gmb:my username is Tobias Kuppelhuber
[15:57] <gmb> chips: When you go to launchpad, what does the URL say after the ~? I.e, for me it reads http://launchpad.net/~gmb
[15:58] <gmb> chips: Are you kuppi?
[15:58] <chips> gmb: it`s "kuppi"
[15:59] <gmb> chips: Hmm. I can't see that you're subscribed to any bugs. Can you send a copy, including headers, of one of the bug notification emails that you're receiving? Please send it to <my nick> AT canonical DOT com.
[16:00] <chips> gmb: i want to deactivate the e-mail notifications, because i become up to 20 Mails on a day. How can i do that?
[16:01] <gmb> chips: Well, first I need to know what notifications you're getting, hence why I'd like you to forward one to me.
[16:01] <gmb> If I can find out why you're receiving the emails then I'll be able to help you more easily.
[16:02] <chips> gmb: i`m subscriped to "Ubuntu Documentation Students" and i become Mails from all Bugs...
[16:03] <gmb> chips: I know you're a member of that team. However, you won't be receiving mails for all bugs. I really need to see one of these emails, since its headers will tell me exactly why you're receiving the emails, which should allow me to help you. At this point, without knowing more, all I can suggest is "leave the Ubuntu Documentation Students team," which is obviously not very helpful.
[16:07] <chips> gmb: at the moment I`ve deleted all the messages....i have to wait of a new message and then I can forward the mail to you
[16:07] <gmb> chips: Okay, thank you. Please do that.
[16:11] <chips> gmb: ok, thanks for your help
[16:21] <vagrantc> so, i'm trying to import a key into launchpad, but when i try to paste the key it doesn't fit on a single line and gets "Invalid public key"
[16:23] <stgraber> vagrantc: I assume the key wasn't generated with a broken ssl right ?
[16:23] <vagrantc> stgraber: it was generated in 2004
[16:24] <vagrantc> stgraber: ssh-vulnkey on debian says: Unknown (no blacklist information): 1024 57:cf:23:fb:da:cc:f2:ce:c7:64:60:04:93:0f:62:b1
[16:24] <vagrantc> stgraber: it's an rsa key
[16:26] <vagrantc> i seem to recall this problem when i initially tried to get my key in ...
[16:27] <vagrantc> my screen isn't very big, and iceweasel's text-entry field word-wraps between the ssh-rsa and the key itself
[16:37] <vagrantc> ah, it was https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/60601
[19:11] <devfil> hi
[19:12] <devfil> anyone know when we will get ppa with intrepid build machine?


[20:11] <DammitJim> ugh, how dumb is it that I am going to replace a desktop linux machine for a laptop with an eSata external drive?
[20:25] <keen> only dumb when the cats unplug it.;)
[20:28] <DammitJim> LOL... this thing is locked up
[20:30] <keen> which was my argument the other day about "don't you like the new mac pro?" "why put drives inside, just attach them via thunderbolt!"
[20:31] <DammitJim> it's more cables outside to route, but since this is locked up, noone really sees it LOL


[08:15] <elacheche> o/
[08:16] <MarwenDo> o/
[08:16] <pavlushka> o/
[08:25] <elacheche> MarwenDo: you should congrats pavlushka he's an official Ubuntu member now :)
[08:35] <Na3iL> \o
[08:38] <elacheche> Na3iL: :)
[08:38] <MarwenDo> elacheche,  he is offline :'(
[08:38] <MarwenDo> i'll try laster ;)
[08:38] <MarwenDo> later *
[08:44] <elacheche> :)
[10:09] <elacheche> Yo SalahMessaoud ! :) :)


[12:40] <gary_poster> danilos, you are getting something reviewed, sweet :-)
[12:44] <danilos> gary_poster, well, MP is up for review, bastard OCR has not showed up today
[12:44] <danilos> (gmb that is :))
[12:44] <gary_poster> lol
[12:44] <danilos> gary_poster, I wouldn't mind you reviewing it if you want to see how much you hate my approach :)
[12:44] <gary_poster> lol, sure, send me the link
[12:46] <danilos> gary_poster, https://code.launchpad.net/~danilo/launchpad/bug728370-nondirect-subs/+merge/57293
[12:46] <gary_poster> cool, on it danilo
[12:46] <danilos> gary_poster, just so you don't get scared, more than half of it is tests, thanks :)
[12:46] <gary_poster> heh, ok :-)
[12:48] <bac> i too am waiting on the bastard OCR: https://code.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-753965/+merge/57262
[12:53] <danilos> bac, I'd be happy to help in an hour or two if that's not too late for you? if you are blocked, I'd take a look now
[12:54] <danilos> I assume leonard is not showing up for his review duties? :) removing him from OCR
[13:08] <benji> I'll do a review if anyone needs it.
[13:19] <gary_poster> danilos, fwiw this looks great so far.  I'm on line 400+ of the diff, and I've run the test and the demo.  Your test console is preeeeettttty ;-)
[13:19] <danilos> gary_poster, heh, yeah, thanks :)
[13:20] <benji> gary_poster: I bet the new "overlay closes immediately" bug is a result of https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/launchpad/bug-750573-move-overlay (the fix for bug 750567)
[13:20] <_mup_> Bug #750567: Structural subscription overlay doesn't instantly disappear. <qa-ok> <story-better-bug-notification> <Launchpad itself:Fix Released by benji> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/750567 >
[13:20] <danilos> gary_poster, I've got a prototype rendering and direct sub as well, just need to polish it and add tests for the display (wanted to make sure I can render what I've got :))
[13:20] <bac> benji: please see above if you want to review.
[13:20] <benji> bac: cool, starting now
[13:20] <gary_poster> benji, maybe so.
[13:21] <benji> I'd be glad to look if you want.
[13:21] <bac> benji: ignore the lint as i'm fixing it now
[13:21] <benji> bac: k
[13:21] <gary_poster> It instantly disappears now, but the instant is a trifle too soon :-)
[13:25] <benji> gary_poster: right, I think I was overly aggressive when the user clicks OK
[13:25] <bac> gary_poster: i'm not sure what i was thinking, but trizpug is on the 28th, not this thursday
[13:25] <gary_poster> bac, cool.  I hopefully will have a new baby by then :-)
[13:26] <gary_poster> bac benji danilos I'm about to look at kanban board
[13:26] <gary_poster> call in 4
[13:26] <benji> bac: on line 76 of the diff did you mean to use the self.contents as the message describing the failure?
[13:26] <benji> k
[13:26] <gary_poster> and lest I forget, I'm out this morning
[13:26] <gary_poster> starting 9:30-ish till lunchish
[13:26] <bac> benji: no, i'm sure that is left over debugging
[13:26] <benji> k
[13:26] <bac> benji: sorry
[13:26] <gary_poster> where 9:30-ish is an hour-ish from now-ish :-)
[13:26] <bac> i hate when i leave those things in
[13:27] <benji> bac: it's the worst thing that has ever happened to me
[13:27] <bac> i know!
[13:27] <gary_poster> lol
[13:27] <bac> you've led a charmed life
[13:27] <benji> heh
[13:37] <bac> gary_poster: two leave reqeusts posted on canonicaladmin
[13:40] <danilos> fwiw, pastebin function: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/593099/
[13:53] <gary_poster> approved bac
[13:56] <gary_poster> danilos, super small, I'm not sure what you mean by "short (just-enough)" in your test comments (e.g., "Gather short (just-enough) subscription records for all assignments.").  It makes me think I don't know what is going on. :-)
[13:56] <gary_poster> I suspect it is simple--maybe you mean that you are dumping all of the information that you don't need from the personsubscriptioninfo data?--but I also suspect that just dropping that phrase will not lose any important information to the reader and make it easier to understand.
[13:56] <gary_poster> Like I said, that's tiny, but it has confused me just a bit.
[13:56] <danilos> gary_poster, heh, exactly :)
[13:57] <danilos> gary_poster, I'll be happy to fix it (you can probably assume a lot of copy-pasting has gone on :)
[13:57] <gary_poster> heh, cool
[14:18] <gary_poster> danilos, approved.  The only other thing of smallest value I mentioned was questioning your switch/case indentation.  blah. :-) If you want to leave it the way it is that's fine.  I also asked about whether you could reduce cut & paste in the tests, but I looked for a way, and on a quick look I didn't see a compelling option.  So, you can land as-is if you like.
[14:18] <danilos> gary_poster, you are not the first one to question it, emacs espresso mode defaults to that, I need to look into configuring it to indent "properly" :)
[14:19] <gary_poster> heh ok cool :-)
[14:19] <danilos> gary_poster, reducing the cut and paste is non-trivial because messages (at least) differ, and the tests as such have allowed me to do some code refactoring
[14:20] <gary_poster> danilos, cool.  yeah, and it's not even just messages.  test structure themselves change.  In the example I looked at, there were five functions with the same name, two of which were similar enough for merging.  Not worth it.
[14:22] <danilos> gary_poster, right, thanks again for the review :)
[14:26] <gary_poster> np
[14:26] <gary_poster> talk to you all later
[15:08] <benji> bac: through pilot error I lost my review of your branch, reconstructing now
[15:09] <bac> benji: ok
[15:54] <benji> bac: review now done for the second time: https://code.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-753965/+merge/57262
[15:54] <bac> thx
[15:55] <benji> bac: be forwarned, I went on a small tangent about the test suite construction, but I included a patch, so it shouldn't take much effort to integrate it
[15:55] <bac> benji: thanks.  i appreciate whatever suggestion you have.  it got out of control
[15:56] <benji> I think I found the sanest way to do what we want there.  Who reviews the code suggested by the reviewer? :)
[16:38] <danilos> gary_poster, I've got to run, my branch up at lp:~danilo/launchpad/bug728370-direct-subs though there's still some work to get even the non-pretty descriptions printout landed (mainly refactoring and tests)
[16:38]  * danilos -> off
[17:30] <bac> benji: the CustomTestLoad rocks -- thanks!
[17:32] <benji> excellent
[20:50] <gary_poster> benji, you up for short call
[20:51] <benji> gary_poster: sure
[20:51] <gary_poster> thank you


[16:17] <boredandblogging> james_w: think I missed it, is it just on the wiki?
[16:34] <james_w> boredandblogging: it's in the moderating queue for ubuntu-devel-announce
[16:36] <boredandblogging> james_w: ah, ok, thanks
[17:21] <johnc4510> tyche: ping
[17:21] <tyche> johnc4510: pong
[17:21] <johnc4510> i've got all the links up now i think
[17:21] <johnc4510> everyone can have at them
[17:22] <johnc4510> i'll work on the upper GCN later today
[17:22] <tyche> R-R-R-I-I-I-I-G-H-T!
[17:22] <johnc4510> ??
[17:22] <tyche> Yea, I just opened up the page, and saw what you had done.  Hee hee
[17:22] <johnc4510> k
[17:23] <tyche> ". . . let it rain for 40 days and 40 nights, and wait 'til the sewers back up."
[17:23] <johnc4510> ??
[17:23] <johnc4510> you're in an odd mood today
[17:23] <johnc4510> very cryptic
[17:24] <tyche> OH, GAD!  You mean you don't remember Bill Cosby, "Noah"?
[17:24] <johnc4510> guess i never saw that one
[17:24] <johnc4510> :(
[17:24] <tyche> It was on one of his records, years ago.  (It's been re-issued on CD, I understand).  It was a classic.
[17:25] <johnc4510> ah
[17:25] <johnc4510> :)
[21:03] <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: I've got a couple of GCN I can put up, if you want to use them.  The other two, I wasn't sure what to do with them.
[21:04] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: ah ok, put them up please.
[21:04] <johnc4510-laptop> i started on the LTS release but it's no biggie
[21:04] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[21:05] <tyche> I'll toss them up.  You can change or delete as you see fit.
[21:05] <johnc4510-laptop> danke
[21:06] <tyche> OK, they're up.
[21:07] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[21:07] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[21:07] <tyche> Just trying to keep from overworking you.
[21:08] <kennymc0> oh unlike me who you _are_ trying to overwork
[21:08] <kennymc0> lol
[21:09] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[21:09] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: that's different, you're young and energetic, and....
[21:09] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[21:10] <kennymc0> i noticed that you gave me 4 more links for the ITB
[21:10] <kennymc0> i take that's because i was already done with the first 2
[21:10] <johnc4510-laptop> nope, just happened to turn out that way
[21:10] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[21:10] <johnc4510-laptop> luck of the draw
[21:10] <kennymc0> uh huh..........sure.................
[21:11]  * tyche quietly thinks about all the times he had to do extra, without complaining.  Hee hee
[21:13]  * johnc4510-laptop remembers when it was just him and nick putting out the whole issue
[21:13] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[21:13] <tyche> Yep
[21:13] <tyche> Or the times I've had to try to tackle the whole thing (with the exception of finding links)
[21:14] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[21:14] <kennymc0> now both of you are complaining
[21:15] <tyche> Nope.    You know, the sort of stories that end up ". . . in my father's pajamas."   LOL
[21:17] <kennymc0> oh so you mean those stories that usually include the whole tall tale about walking uphill both ways to school in 10 feet of snow
[21:17] <kennymc0> those kind of stories?
[21:17] <tyche> Yep
[21:25]  * cody-somerville remembers when we used to document all the new upstream versions that entered Ubuntu.
[21:25] <johnc4510-laptop> yeah, that was before me
[21:25] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[22:10] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: ping
[22:10] <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: pong
[22:10] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[22:10] <johnc4510-laptop> i got the GCN done, have you done the Meeting Summaries section?
[22:11] <tyche> Nope.  I did the LoCo news
[22:11] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, i'll drop down and do that then


[03:23] <tcole> hah, wow
[08:05] <mandel> morning!!
[08:38] <JamesTait> Good morning everyone!
[09:36] <gatox> mandel, did you have the phone?! i've just read the twit! :D
[09:54] <mandel> gatox, yeah
[09:55] <gatox> mandel, awesome!! :D
[09:55] <mandel> gatox, although I'm sorry to tell you that by father was like WTF and opened it? sorry :(
[09:55] <mandel> my brother says is really cool :P
[09:55] <gatox> mandel, jeje it's no problem!! i told you that you could use it if you want!
[09:57] <mandel> gatox, yeah, but I always think that the actual owner should be the one doing the unboxing
[09:58] <gatox> mandel, no problem! i'm just happy that i'm going to have an awesome camera with a phone attached to take pictures at the pycon! :D
[10:00] <mandel> hahaha
[10:49] <gatox> blajk, ping
[10:49] <blajk> gatox, pong
[10:50] <gatox> blajk, hi, how are you?
[10:50] <blajk> gatox, I'm good thanks! You?
[10:50] <gatox> blajk, good! i was wondering if you could help with some styling for a screen in control panel?
[10:51] <gatox> blajk, it's not looking very well
[10:51] <gatox> blajk, let me send you the screenshot in pm
[10:52] <blajk> gatox, sure
[10:55] <facundobatista> Hola!
[11:17] <hakermania> What limits does UbuntuOne have in free users?
[11:17] <nessita> hello everyone!
[11:17] <gatox> nessita, hi
[11:18] <gatox> hakermania, 5gb
[11:19] <hakermania> gatox, :/ dropbox has 10, so I'll stick to it...
[11:20] <gatox> hakermania, 10?? it says 2: http://www.dropbox.com/pricing
[11:20] <nessita> gatox: any reviews you need from me?
[11:20] <gatox> nessita, jeje like a lot
[11:21] <nessita> gatox: shoot like 3 :-D
[11:21] <gatox> nessita, jejeok
[11:21] <gatox> nessita, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/reset-password-page/+merge/73523
[11:21] <gatox> nessita, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/wizard-sizes/+merge/73804
[11:21] <gatox> nessita, really trivial: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/help-button-removed/+merge/73834
[11:22] <hakermania> gatox, Oh you misunderstood me, no storage limits, bandwidth limits. Dropbox lets download 10GB/day
[11:22] <gatox> hakermania, ahhhhh
[11:22] <gatox> nessita, ^
[11:22] <pfibiger> gatox: currently there is a limit per published public file, but no global limit
[11:23] <pfibiger> hakermania: ^
[11:23] <hakermania> pfibiger, what does this really mean? I need to have 2 very small files (bytesized) but they will be downloaded many times by many different ips
[11:24] <pfibiger> hakermania: i don't remember what the limit is per file, i believe it's 1gb. so if you had two files, each one would be allowed 1gb of xfer per day, so 2gb total.
[11:25] <pfibiger> i'll check on that number.
[11:25] <hakermania> pfibiger, I can wait, thanks, but if it's like this, I think I'll stick on Dropbox because while U1 lets 5 GB I need only ~56 bytes but goof download limits :D
[11:27] <hakermania> good^
[11:30] <nessita> ralsina: ping
[11:41] <nessita> gatox: can I ask a review from you? :-) https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/share-backend/+merge/73862
[11:48] <gatox> nessita, on it
[11:54] <nessita> gatox: what should I see in the reset password branch? I'm running the installer with the latest SSO, and I get this:
[11:54] <gatox> nessita, what?
[11:54] <nessita> gatox: visually, what does that branch adds to the UI?
[11:55] <gatox> nessita, when you click on "forgot password", you will see the same popup besides the line edits as in Setup Account
[11:56] <nessita> gatox: I\'m not getting any popup... you sure is a popup?
[11:56] <gatox> nessita, +1 to your branch
[11:56] <nessita> gatox: let me share a screenshot
[11:56] <gatox> nessita, well, not a popup... the ballon that appears in setup account...... let me give you an screenshot
[11:56] <nessita> ah, yes
[11:56] <nessita> gatox: I'm not getting that either, let me show you
[11:57] <gatox> nessita, ok
[12:19] <ralsina> nessita: pong
[12:21] <nessita> hi ralsina
[12:22] <ralsina> hello nessita
[12:26] <karni> hi nessita, ralsina \o
[12:27] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:27] <czajkowski> anyone running oneiric and thunderbird in here ?
[12:27] <nessita> hi karni!
[12:28] <hakermania>  Hello, World!
[12:28] <hakermania> LoL
[12:29] <czajkowski> keep seeing when I laucnh tb the following message
[12:29] <czajkowski> There was a problem opening the address book "Ubuntu One" - the message returned was: Cannot open book: Cannot process, book backend is opening
[12:30] <nessita> ralsina: can I have reviews for a trivialisimo branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/pylint-lucid/+merge/74203
[12:30] <ralsina> nessita: porsupus
[12:31] <ralsina> nessita: marked as approved globally since it's just a lint fix
[12:31] <nessita> thanks
[12:31] <ralsina> nessita: did you see my mail?
[12:31] <nessita> ralsina: yes, I have your reviews in my queue
[12:31] <ralsina> nessita: ok, thanks
[12:32] <czajkowski> anyone? should I log a bug about it, or is it known already ?
[12:34] <nessita> czajkowski: let me ask the one who knows
[12:34] <nessita> rodrigo_: ping
[12:35] <czajkowski> nessita: thanks as everytime I now open a folder that annoying message is in my face
[12:39] <nessita> gatox: your wizard-sizes branch:
[12:39] <nessita>  M  ubuntuone_installer/gui/qt/tests/test_side_widget.py
[12:39] <nessita> Text conflict in ubuntuone_installer/gui/qt/gui.py
[12:39] <rodrigo_> nessita, pong
[12:40] <nessita> rodrigo_: hi there, do you, by any chance, know why czajkowski is getting a error message for Ubuntu One address book in O?
[12:40] <nessita> czajkowski: you sure is thunderbird, no evolution?
[12:41] <czajkowski> There was a problem opening the address book "Ubuntu One" - the message returned was: Cannot open book: Cannot process, book backend is opening
[12:41] <czajkowski> nessita: I only use Thunderbird
[12:41] <rodrigo_> nessita, not sure about the error, but desktopcouch hasn't worked for me at all in all the oneiric cycle
[12:42] <rodrigo_> czajkowski, about thunderbird, talk to chrisccoulson in #ubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <czajkowski> rodrigo_: aye I also get desktop couch erros but not today so far,,
[12:42] <czajkowski> rodrigo_: thanks will go talk to Chrisccoulson now
[12:43] <rodrigo_> czajkowski, you're welcome :)
[12:43] <nessita> thanks rodrigo_!
[12:44] <rye> nessita, rodrigo_, czajkowski, thunderbird in oneiric uses EDS
[12:44] <rye> and EDS has evolution-couchdb plugin which connects to desktopcouch
[12:45] <czajkowski> seemingly I uninstall something, very simple
[12:45] <czajkowski> god I feel daft at times
[12:45] <gatox> nessita, ohhhhhh i check today that doesn't have any conflict!
[12:45]  * gatox fixing....
[12:47] <nessita> gatox: and I have a lint issue in help-button-removed
[12:48] <nessita> gatox: but that branch seems to work OK :-)
[12:50] <nessita> ralsina: this branch is 'work in progress', is it ready for review? https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_800363/+merge/74141
[12:51] <ralsina> nessita: oops, yes it is
[12:53] <nessita> ralsina: so, what shall I check in the UI for that branch?
[12:54] <ralsina> nessita: after you login, the next page should now have a "skip tour, go to dashboard" button and a "start setup" button. If you click on "start setup", the following page should have a "next" button and no "skip tour"
[12:54] <nessita> right
[12:54] <nessita> checking
[12:57] <dobey> hmm
[13:00] <gatox> standup?
[13:01] <nessita> me!
[13:01] <gatox> me
[13:02] <dobey> meh
[13:02] <ralsina> me
[13:02] <ralsina> and welcome back dobey!
[13:03] <gatox> alecu, ping
[13:04] <nessita> DONE: bug #834766, reviews, holiday!
[13:04] <nessita> TODO: bug #807021, reviews, university
[13:04] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[13:04] <nessita> NEXT: gatox
[13:04] <gatox> DONE:
[13:04] <gatox> Bug #841911, Bug #841863, Bug #839844, Bug #834983, Bug #831310, Bug #841915.
[13:04] <gatox> TODO:
[13:04] <gatox> Improving some UIs in Control Panel
[13:04] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[13:04] <gatox> No
[13:04] <gatox> dobey, go
[13:04] <dobey> λ DONE: holidays
[13:04] <dobey> λ TODO: fix bugs
[13:04] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[13:04] <dobey> ralsina
[13:04] <ralsina> 5/9/11
[13:04] <ralsina> ------
[13:04] <ralsina> DONE:
[13:04] <ralsina> * Release (friday)
[13:04] <ralsina> * Fixed bug in sso's setup.py that broke sourcedeps for servers
[13:04] <ralsina> * Fixed bug 839906 (wrong icons in taskbar)
[13:04] <ralsina> * Did a dirty workaround for bug 839877 (bad credentials for new accounts)
[13:04] <ralsina> * Proposed branch for the notification area icon [+1 alecu]
[13:04] <ralsina> * Proposed branch for "login successful" page (bug #800363)
[13:04] <ralsina> * Bug triaging
[13:04] <ralsina> * Some reviews
[13:04] <ralsina> TODO:
[13:04] <ralsina> * Try to merge everything
[13:04] <ralsina> * Reviews
[13:04] <ralsina> * Make a build
[13:04] <ralsina> * See where I can help and do it
[13:04] <ralsina> * Mgmt call
[13:05] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[13:05]  * nessita adds to the TODO: do UDS administrative stuff (register, etc)
[13:05] <ralsina> alecu still not around, so ... comments?
[13:05] <ralsina> Oh, crap! I have to do the UDS stuff today!
[13:05] <gatox> nop
[13:06] <gatox> nessita, this branch should fix reset password: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/reset-password/+merge/74211
[13:06] <gatox> something weird was happening
[13:06] <nessita> no comments
[13:06] <gatox> nessita, please let me know if that branch along with the installer branch works
[13:08] <ralsina> EOM then
[13:08] <dobey> mandel is on holiday again? damn :P
[13:08] <ralsina> dobey: it's what happens when you don't take them for a while. They pile up.
[13:09] <alecu> hello!
[13:09] <alecu> DONE: branch with fixes on server for problems with delayed hashing branch
[13:09] <alecu> TODO: discuss validity of the fixes, and adding more tests for this in the server with facundo.
[13:09] <alecu> BLOCKED: need to go to the bank and to the taxes office, wish me luck
[13:10] <dobey> yeah, i got 4 more to use up it seems
[13:10] <ralsina> dobey: remember to save for the shutdown
[13:10] <dobey> yes, that's why i said 4 and not 8 :)
[13:11] <ralsina> we have to use 5 this year :-(
[13:12] <gatox> nessita, branches fixed
[13:13] <dobey> ralsina: we == .ar?
[13:13] <ralsina> dobey: yeah
[13:13] <ralsina> dobey: we don't have a holiday the 26th
[13:14] <gatox> alecu, hi
[13:14] <dobey> ralsina: do you get Jan 2?
[13:14] <ralsina> nope
[13:14] <dobey> ralsina: oh, so you need 6 days then?
[13:15] <ralsina> is the 2nd still shutdown?
[13:15] <dobey> 2nd is new year holiday in US and I think UK too. so pretty sure it is. but ask hr i guess
[13:15] <dobey> or reply to that thread ;)
[13:16] <ralsina> I don't mind, I have N fresh days at that point ;-)
[13:19] <nessita> dobey, ralsina: 2 is not shutdown, fyi
[13:21] <dobey> nessita: well, probably more than half the company have it as national holiday
[13:22] <nessita> dobey: right, nevertheless is not shutdown :-)
[13:22] <dobey> nessita: you asked hr? :)
[13:22] <nessita> dobey: I saw the shutdown calendar
[13:24] <dobey> ah
[13:24] <dobey> well i wouldn't worry about next year's shutdown anyway. the WHOLE WORLD is shutting down. ;)
[13:36] <ralsina> alecu, gatox: can I get a second review of https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_800363/+merge/74141
[13:36] <gatox> ralsina, on it
[13:37] <ralsina> gatox: thanks!
[13:42] <gatox> ralsina, +1 to your branch
[13:45] <ralsina> gatox: gracias!
[13:46] <gatox> ralsina, nessita i have a really trivial branch for control panel when you have a minute (it fixes some minor details in the ui): https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/prettify/+merge/74219
[13:47] <ralsina> gatox: what does it fix?
[13:47]  * ralsina suggests before/after screenshots
[13:48] <gatox> ralsina, improve sign in ui, group box title style, preferences alignment, add bold version of ubuntu font
[13:48] <gatox> ralsina, ok...... taking screenshots
[13:49] <ralsina> gatox: sorry to make you work, but I am on a conference call, and looking at pics is about as much as I can focus :-)
[13:50] <mandel> dobey, if you need me, I'm back :)
[13:50] <dobey> mandel: go away you're on holiday
[13:50] <gatox> ralsina, jeje no problem!
[13:50] <mandel> dobey, oh, but I though you needed me ;)
[13:51] <dobey> mandel: i always need you, baby. but i think i can survive the week with only your twits bitching about jsonrpc :)
[13:51] <ralsina> mandel: that's what he said!
[13:51] <mandel> hehehe
[13:52] <mandel> dobey, I'm palying around with jsonrpc and twisted? I should get something nice by the end of the holidays, but if you have an urgency let me know
[13:52] <mandel> I know you are easy to please?. ;)
[13:52] <mandel> ralsina, good one :)
[13:52] <rodrigo_> so, any news on a working desktopcouch for oneiric? it's been completely broken for the whole cycle
[13:53] <mandel> rodrigo_, I dont know there is anyone looking at it at all
[13:54] <dobey> rodrigo_: i saw jderose was doing some debugging on it, but don't know if he found anything definite. seems that new couchdb/erlang aren't playing well
[13:54] <mandel> rodrigo_, technically speaking: ni dios lo ha mirado..
[13:54] <dobey> mandel: i am pretty sure i will *never* need anything involving jsonrpc/twisted :)
[13:54] <rodrigo_> mandel, yes, seems so :(
[13:55] <rodrigo_> so, if noone is looking at it, can we assume we don't support contacts syncing anymore?
[13:55] <dobey> rodrigo_: well i don't have the time/knowledge for it, and i am basically lone ranger for us on ubuntu this cycle :-/
[13:56] <rodrigo_> dobey, only you working on desktop-side things?
[13:56] <mandel> dobey, I want to stop using twisted.pb on the windows ipc? and I hope you do not need to look at it :)
[13:57] <dobey> rodrigo_: pretty much, yes
[13:57] <dobey> mandel: i want to stop using twisted ;)
[13:57] <rodrigo_> dobey, ok
[13:57] <rodrigo_> I think we should disable all contacts stuff then, it's completely broken
[13:58] <dobey> rodrigo_: what do you mean by "disable" exactly?
[13:58] <nessita> ralsina: ping
[13:59] <rodrigo_> dobey, I don't know exactly, but maybe make evo-couchdb transitional package that does nothing at all
[13:59] <ralsina> nessita: pong
[13:59] <rodrigo_> or disable the desktopcouch parts
[13:59] <nessita> ralsina: I'm getting a weird thing with the installer, if I have credentials, I get an error popup when starting the installer
[13:59] <ralsina> nessita: about not being able to start Ubuntu One?
[13:59] <rodrigo_> also, the u1-control-panel has some mention to contacts, doesn't it?
[13:59] <nessita> ralsina: yes
[13:59] <dobey> rodrigo_: i think you're underestimating the severity of the problem :(
[14:00] <dobey> rodrigo_: contacts isn't the only thing affected
[14:00] <ralsina> nessita: that's expected behaviour. It's trying to start control panel, and that doesn't work when it's not "installed"
[14:00] <nessita> ah
[14:00] <nessita> ralsina: ok, cleaning my credentials then
[14:00] <rodrigo_> dobey, what else are we syncing via dc?
[14:00] <ralsina> nessita: if you put it in the PATH it should work though
[14:00] <dobey> rodrigo_: there's also bindwood; and all the "third-party" apps that use desktopcouch for storing things, like lernid
[14:00] <dobey> rodrigo_: the problem isn't the syncing, the problem is local access
[14:01] <dobey> rodrigo_: the reports seem to indicate that desktopcouch works fine, so long as you don't use oauth to access it locally. ie, futon still works.
[14:01] <nessita> ralsina: right. Question: how can I confirm ubuntu one was added to the startup?
[14:02] <dobey> rodrigo_: which seems to tell me that the problem is in couchdb itself, and not desktopcouch
[14:02] <nessita> ralsina: I don't see it under Startup app when running msconfig
[14:02] <ralsina> nessita: you can restart the session :-)
[14:02] <ralsina> nessita: or maybe I am doing that wrong :-/
[14:02] <rodrigo_> dobey, yeah, system-wide couchdb works fine for me, it's just the oauth auth
[14:02] <nessita> ralsina: but shouldn't be listed under startup programs?
[14:02] <dobey> rodrigo_: jderose should be on-line in a few more hours, i'll see if he's found anything
[14:03] <rodrigo_> dobey, ok, thanks
[14:03] <ralsina> nessita: I am not really sure
[14:03] <nessita> ralsina: can you please confirm?
[14:03] <ralsina> what
[14:03] <nessita> ralsina: because I'm not sure if worked here
[14:03] <ralsina> oops, sorry, wrong channel
[14:04] <ralsina> nessita: hmmmm.... skip that branch until I do more testing
[14:04] <nessita> ralsina: ack
[14:04] <ralsina> nessita: since anyway I probably need to add u1cp there too
[14:05] <dobey> btw, who broke the u1cp tests on oneiric? :(
[14:06] <dobey> ralsina: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79127566/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.ubuntuone-control-panel_1.1.2%2Br212-33~oneiric1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz <- dirty reactor errors :(
[14:06] <nessita> dobey: and I talked to pitti about that
[14:07] <nessita> dobey: seems like the glib twisted reactor uses static gobject bindings, which conflicts with dynamic ones
[14:07] <nessita> dobey: loaded from the code :-/
[14:07] <dobey> right :(
[14:08] <nessita> dobey: I filed a bug
[14:08] <nessita> bug #842614
[14:08] <nessita> dobey: I was planning on skipping those tests, so maverick and oneiric build properly
[14:08] <dobey> meh, where is our bug bot?
[14:08] <nessita> dobey: irene took it away
[14:08] <nessita> dobey: btw, is you tarmac running?
[14:09] <dobey> the stuff i was running on lucid is back up, yes
[14:09] <nessita> dobey: not sure what that means...
[14:10] <nessita> dobey: is your tarmac running only for lucid stuff?
[14:11] <dobey> nessita: some older client branches, and some server bits are merged on lucid, because they have to work on lucid.
[14:11] <nessita> dobey: ah, ok
[14:12] <dobey> nessita: btw, the maverick issue is a different one, so i'd rather not group them together. i think we need a bug against twisted in oneiric for the bindings issue, if there isn't one already
[14:13] <nessita> dobey: ok, could you please clean that up?
[14:13] <nessita> dobey: I will make the test skips, if you want
[14:13] <dobey> no, don't skip the tests
[14:15] <nessita> dobey: no?
[14:15] <dobey> nope. we need to fix twisted
[14:16] <dobey> nessita: skipping the tests won't help since the real program will just fail anyway
[14:17] <nessita> ralsina, Chipaca: you let us know when you finish the management call, so we mumble?
[14:18] <ralsina> nessita: I am done, but Chipaca is sprinting
[14:18] <ralsina> So let's mumble
[14:18] <nessita> ok!
[14:19] <dobey> oh right, i forgot about that sprint
[14:19] <ralsina> gatox, mumble?
[14:20] <nessita> alecu: you can mumble (or still otp/bank)
[14:20] <gatox> ralsina, ok
[14:20] <nessita> ?
[14:20] <alecu> nessita, otp
[14:33] <dobey> ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-control-panel/no-gb-val/+merge/74228 <- can you do quick review of that? it seems the best solution to this problem. :)
[14:36] <ralsina> dobey: looking
[14:55] <gatox> ralsina, i've added the screenshots: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/prettify/+merge/74219
[14:55] <ralsina> gatox: looking!
[14:56] <ralsina> gatox: I get "Could not locate object"
[14:56] <gatox> ralsina, yep....... the files weren't public..... updating the message :P
[14:56] <ralsina> he
[14:57] <ralsina> dobey, agreed about the NGB thing. Since we are not going to put "get several GB", I think this makes sense
[14:58] <dobey> yay
[14:58] <dobey> one bug down, 5243534 more to go
[15:01] <gatox> ralsina, now you have the correct links
[15:01] <gatox> https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/prettify/+merge/74219
[15:01] <gatox> ralsina, ^
[15:01] <ralsina> gatox: looking again
[15:03] <ralsina> gatox: not all that happy with the signin one, but all of them are much improved
[15:04] <gatox> ralsina, andrew has give me a design for that page a minutes ago
[15:04] <ralsina> gatox: and it's not this one, right?
[15:04] <gatox> ralsina, i'll applied the changes, but it is basically something really similar to that
[15:04] <ralsina> ok, +1 it is
[15:05] <dobey> ralsina: did you request a review from nessita on my branch too?
[15:06] <ralsina> dobey: nope
[15:06] <dobey> nessita: did you request you review my branch?
[15:06] <nessita> dobey: I did, yes
[15:07] <nessita> dobey: why not changing the 2GB to 5GB?
[15:07] <dobey> ok
[15:07] <dobey> nessita: because then if we offer 10GB or something in the future instead, we have to go back and change all the versions
[15:07] <nessita> dobey: or maybe just 'Free storage'?
[15:07] <dobey> and it is a pain to do that
[15:07] <nessita> dobey: yes, I agree
[15:08] <nessita> dobey: can you please run by Roberta this change?
[15:08] <nessita> dobey: if shee agrees with removing the whole subtext, I'll approve
[15:09] <dobey> nessita: does the qt panel have "5gb free!" or anything like that in it?
[15:09] <nessita> dobey: we have no such 'overview' screen
[15:09] <nessita> so, no
[15:09] <dobey> so what does it display if user doesn't have an account?
[15:10] <nessita> dobey: the installer-wizard will be there
[15:10] <nessita> offering to either login or register
[15:10] <dobey> that is windows
[15:10] <nessita> dobey: if the user happens to "manually" search for the control panel exe, he gets a login screen
[15:10] <nessita> dobey: same for linux
[15:11] <dobey> so it just opens SSO, and the user is all like "WTF IS THIS ALL ABOUT?" :)
[15:11] <dobey> :-/
[15:12] <nessita> dobey: no, we show a "native" login screen
[15:12] <nessita> native in QT, I mean
[15:13] <dobey> eh? i mean, the user has no idea what they're actually signing in to or up for, they just get a login screen?
[15:16] <nessita> dobey: they get a QT screen to login with minimal Ubuntu One legends in it
[15:17] <dobey> :-/
[15:21] <dobey> ok, well, need to get some lunch. bbiab
[15:27] <ralsina> me too. see you later
[15:30] <gatox> brb!
[15:52] <nessita> dobey: I approved your branch by mistake :-/ Anyways, I don't disagree with the fix, I just wanted roberta or cristian to sign off the change. Can you please make sure to talk about this with them tomorrow?
[16:37] <dobey> nessita: i pinged earlier, but no response
[16:37] <nessita> dobey: I know, that's why I said "tomorrow" :-)
[17:08] <dobey> nessita: why did you mark bug #835093 as affecting upstream ubuntuone-control-panel (and assign to you)?
[17:09] <nessita> dobey: because setup.py has the same typo
[17:10] <dobey> ah, ok.
[17:12] <dobey> although, for some reason, seeing you do that has given me an idea; though i'm not sure how to follow through with it
[17:19] <nessita> dobey: I gotta tun to the uni now, but please share that idea with me tomorrow
[17:19]  * nessita -> teaching duties
[17:19] <gatox> ralsina, cna you review this branches?? already has nessita approvals: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/reset-password-page/+merge/73523   and    https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/reset-password/+merge/74211
[17:20] <nessita> gatox: did you got my email re: windows tag?
[17:20] <ralsina> gatox, on them!
[17:21] <gatox> nessita, i've just saw it.... fixing....
[17:21] <nessita> ok
[17:21] <dobey> cheers nessita
[17:21] <nessita> bye all!
[17:21] <ralsina> gatox: all the stuff you are deleting in https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/reset-password-page/+merge/73523 is because you moved it to sso, right?
[17:21] <gatox> ralsina, also this one has nessita approval: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/avoid-shrink-buttons
[17:22] <gatox> ralsina, yes.... both branches are related
[17:22] <gatox> ralsina, some stuff is already in sso trunk
[17:22] <ralsina> gatox: that last one is merged already
[17:22] <gatox> ralsina, oh right.....
[17:30] <ralsina> gatox +1 on both
[17:30] <gatox> ralsina, awesome
[18:11] <alecu> holas!
[18:12] <dobey> hola alecu
[18:13] <alecu> how's it going dobey? how did your house survive irene?
[18:15] <dobey> yeah, house is pretty much ok.
[18:16] <alecu> dobey, cool. How was your vacations, besides that?
[18:17] <dobey> not great
[18:17] <alecu> I would have guess you were in some Caribbean beach, sipping margaritas.
[18:17] <alecu> oh, sorry to hear that :-(
[18:18] <dobey> but at least i got *some* work done on the 'new' engine for one of my cars
[18:18] <dobey> no. no beach and margaritas
[18:18] <mandel> dobey, where did you go?
[18:19]  * alecu has been daydreaming of a beach with no ports around.  Will check every now and then, so please ask for reviews/whatever
[18:21] <alecu> ralsina, cool. Did you know if nessita started with the double errdict issue?
[18:21] <dobey> mandel: seriously. i couldn't stand being there. i had to come home a day early
[18:21] <ralsina> alecu: I don't think she did
[18:22] <alecu> ralsina, cool, thanks
[18:22] <mandel> dobey, well, you would not be the first one to have that problem,  I can just stand my family a few days.. after that I grab the chainsaw hehe
[18:22] <ralsina> alecu: best case is removing it from thelambda and everything works at once :-)
[18:22] <mandel> dobey, nextime you can consider coming to spain if you want :)
[18:22] <gatox> ralsina, okkk
[18:22] <dobey> mandel: i can't stand them for that long :P
[18:23] <mandel> dobey, hehehe well, I'm younger and drink a lot :)
[18:24] <czajkowski> mandel: so who will you support during the RWC ?
[18:24] <mandel> dobey, but seriously, next time let me know and you are more than welcome to where ever I am (which is hard to know)
[18:25] <mandel> czajkowski, I'm between Argentina and Ireland, if those to screw up, any northen one
[18:25] <mandel> and certainly not NZ
[18:26] <dobey> mandel: are you moving to .ar btw? or are you moving to madrid?
[18:27] <mandel> dobey, madrid :)
[18:27] <mandel> dobey, but I might need to kill my mother hahaha
[18:27] <alecu> gatox, ralsina: I totally forgot about this smallish branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/make-it-stop/+merge/74279
[18:27] <alecu> when you have a minute, please review it.
[18:28] <dobey> mandel: heh
[18:29] <gatox> alecu, on it
[18:29]  * gatox waiting for launchpad to scan it
[18:29] <alecu> cool, thanks!
[18:30] <czajkowski> mandel: good call, we just need to beat USA! and AU
[18:30] <mandel> czajkowski, USA is easy..  I feel bad if I drink that early
[18:31] <mandel> I will probably go out til early  in the morning to have an excuse
[18:31] <czajkowski> yeah lotta 7am starts!
[18:31] <czajkowski> good thing I've no job so can get up early
[18:31] <dobey> rodrigo_: still around?
[18:39] <mandel> dobey, I'd be surprise if he is, is like 8:30 pm here...
[18:40] <dobey> mandel: maybe he's bored and it's raining where he is, and he wants to kill time before dinner. i don't know. he's on irc, so i am pinging :)
[18:41] <mandel> dobey, :)
[18:43] <gatox> alecu, your branch is not being updated..... :S i'll let you know as soon as i can review it
[18:44] <alecu> gatox, great, thanks.
[19:20] <gatox> alecu, +1 to your branch! :D
[19:21] <alecu> gatox, cool
[19:22] <gatox> well...... EOD for me!!
[19:22] <gatox> see you tomorrow
[21:10] <ralsina> alecu: ping
[21:14] <dobey> have a good evening all
[21:28] <alecu> ralsina, pong
[21:28] <ralsina> alecu: ay progress in the exception_to_errdict problem?
[21:30] <alecu> ralsina, I've started, not clear progress yet.
[21:30] <ralsina> alecu: ack
[21:51] <alecu> mandel, ping
[21:51] <alecu> mandel, we may share room on pycon, no prob.
[21:52] <alecu> mandel, in fact, I'm planning on staying on Junin on Sun and Monday, because there's a SugarLabs/OLPC sprint after the pycon.