[00:00] <novid> i cant install apache2 properly :(
[00:01] <ubluntu> AntiCasp3r: looks the same to me?
[00:01] <html> novid, did u install the dependenties?
[00:01] <bookpage> im having trouble trying to ssh into my machine, the output of ssh is very unhelpful to me too
[00:01] <AntiCasp3r> ubluntu: thats strange
[00:01] <ubluntu> AntiCasp3r: unless you can tell a difference between these outputs
[00:01] <AntiCasp3r> ubluntu: should i try coping the alsa-base-conf?
[00:01] <AntiCasp3r> +
[00:02] <pooltable> Kinect for linux does any one know if it work or how to get it to work ???
[00:02] <dr_willis> bookpage:  ssh has verbose error reporting with 'ssh -v' or 'ssh -vv'
[00:02] <bookpage> my authenticated_keys is exactly the same as another server and it works FINE, -v output of ssh: http://pastebin.com/yG1P5Bsy
[00:02] <dr_willis> pooltable:  first google hit for kinect for linux --> http://openkinect.org/wiki/Main_Page
[00:03] <AntiCasp3r> ubluntu: gonna boot in 11.10, thanks for your help man
[00:03] <AntiCasp3r> i appreciate it
[00:03] <novid> html: i get error for libapache2-svn
[00:03] <ubluntu> np
[00:03] <pooltable> thanks dr_wills
[00:03] <Ben64> In /proc/meminfo, vmalloc size seems wrong... what should I do? VmallocTotal:<PHONE_NUMBER>7 kB
[00:03] <AntiCasp3r> ubluntu: gonna keep your nick in my mind for more help,maybe
[00:04] <AntiCasp3r> ubluntu: bye and wish a good night if you live in europe :D
[00:04] <html> novid,  likke ?
[00:05] <ubluntu> AntiCasp3r: yea sorry it's not working.
[00:05] <AntiCasp3r> ubluntu: maybe some day, i will pray or choose again another distro
[00:06] <html> novid,   urs pc is a 32 bit? or a 64bit?
[00:06] <bookpage> dr_willis: looking at the -vv output, it's like the server bounces from private to public to private to public and then my side is like: i didn't send a public, screw this
[00:08] <novid> html: 64 bit
[00:09] <html> novid,   what is the error you get? and please for future refference ,time saving , and getting the person right for  your problem thus will get you help and everone else less of a 21 questions .. then find out i cant help
[00:09] <novid> html: is there any way i clean remove apache 2?
[00:10] <html> novid,  * state your whole problem and what your pc is (hardware and os )
[00:10] <novid> html: ok :)
[00:10] <Rogue|Panda_> dr_willis, installing the additional drivers got my machine to (kinda) work with the TV
[00:13] <html> novid,  first look at google and the web,"i get error for libapache2-svn"   and  is there any way i clean remove apache 2?  then come back when you read enough to set it up and remove it in a consistant way
[00:13] <Rogue|Panda_> OK so I got this TV working as a monitor, but it isnt showing my whole display... and will only work in mirror mode I get errors when trying to set the TV as a nonmirrored monitor
[00:13] <Rogue|Panda_> no matter what resolution I try
[00:14] <novid> html: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1578666
[00:14] <novid> I had some issues with my apache2 install and didn't really need to save current config so decided to delete and reinstall. Now I'm getting the following when installing libapache2-svn:
[00:15] <html> novid,  the latter of the two i see getting more results, but play around with the word, rearrang them ,,, and youll get a totally differant seaech
[00:15] <html> novid,  pm when you find some thing ,, i need to eat,
[00:16] <novid> html: np
[00:18] <novid> i cant remove apache2 remove completely
[00:18] <novid> i get this error
[00:18] <novid> Virtual packages like 'apache2-common' can't be removed
[00:19] <Oer> novid, did you stop the service first ?
[00:20] <novid> Oer: yes
[00:22] <Rogue|Panda_> I really hate this wifi on/off button on my laptop
[00:24] <zuhaitz> im gay
[00:24] <zuhaitz> xd
[00:24] <ubluntu> zuhaitz: ok
[00:25] <zuhaitz> XD
[00:25] <zuhaitz> bisexual indeed
[00:25] <zuhaitz> GNU/Bisexual
[00:26] <bookpage> okay, who knows where the POS that makes you NOT login as root in the ubuntu ec2 images?
[00:26] <bookpage> + is
[00:26] <Rogue|Panda_> that is starting to get annoying
[00:29] <UbuntuRules> Hello Everyone.  I have a ubuntu workstation that tried to do an update from 10.04 to 11.10.  It crashed due to the video card no longer supported.  I need to know if it is possible to get this machine operational long enough to copy off the emails and attachments, and the other documents
[00:29] <UbuntuRules> Can anyone help me with this
[00:29] <jadekitten> i know this isn't what the channel is for but can anyone help me with vb.net or tell me where i can get help?
[00:30] <html> UbuntuRules,  :(   well did you back up,   data and a clone?
[00:30] <dr_willis> UbuntuRules:  what video card?  it would be odd it would 'crash' due to video card support.. not boot to X.. perhaps.. but not crash.
[00:30] <Rogue|Panda_> if the files are stored locally then you can boot a livecd and access them that way
[00:30] <UbuntuRules> html I can access it via a console login, just not via the interface
[00:30] <ottoshmidt> "...Ubuntu operating system is used by 20 million..." wtf ubuntu isn't an operating system.. it's a distro isnt it?
[00:31] <aBound> jadekitten, Have you tried the channel ##vb.net
[00:31] <jadekitten> no but i will
[00:31] <jadekitten> thanks
[00:31] <dr_willis> ottoshmidt:  its a computer operating system and one of many linux disrtbutions....
[00:31] <Rogue|Panda_> I didnt know you could put . in a channel name
[00:31] <Oer> hi ottoshmidt 20 million +1
[00:32] <ottoshmidt> no I don't use it
[00:32] <aBound> No problem.
[00:32] <kop> how do I get kernel source from http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/smb/linux-2.6.32.y-drm33.z.git;a=commit;h=7b6e2e94398ac87a6725c6d9b663b76c1f664749 == and before anyone asks git compile failed due to lack of source ...
[00:32] <ottoshmidt> since ages :P grew up from that age
[00:32] <WhiteOwl-m> it's used by 20 million and its fucking hard to find a appropriate wireless stick/card ;)
[00:32] <ottoshmidt> :D
[00:33] <UbuntuRules> Rogue|Panda_,  thank you for that. I will try that now
[00:33] <Rogue|Panda_> ok... so TV working as monitor only in mirror mode... any ideas?
[00:33] <Rogue|Panda_> UbuntuRules, for what?
[00:33] <Rogue|Panda_> oh the livecd idea?
[00:34] <dr_willis> Rogue|Panda_:  what sort of mode are yoyu wanting to use?
[00:35] <Rogue|Panda_> as a separate screen
[00:35] <Oer> WhiteOwl-m, good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:35] <dr_willis> Rogue|Panda_:  you enabled Twinview?
[00:35] <WhiteOwl-m> thanks Oer, I know all the pages by hard ;)
[00:35] <WhiteOwl-m> still I wanna be really careful.. I would have one if I was american but I can't order an american one..
[00:35] <Rogue|Panda_> twinview?
[00:36] <dr_willis> Rogue|Panda_:  i just recall it beign somthing like 'enable twinview' 'use one wide desktop'   - is all i don.
[00:36] <dr_willis> Rogue|Panda_:  you have a nvidia card?
[00:36] <html> UbuntuRules,  if it the card that crazed out, then out of a wild idea , try  to fix the drivers/X.?
[00:36] <EyePulp> rats - I have a service that spawns/manages child processes.  I use upstart to launch/manage the service.  When my service has errors in a child process, it handles them and starts a new child process.  The problem is, somehow upstart is getting wind of the child process error and restarting the whole service.  Any way to make upstart ignore child process issues?
[00:36] <Rogue|Panda_> I just went into the display properties and unchecked "mirroring mode"
[00:36] <Rogue|Panda_> dr_willis, ATI
[00:37] <Rogue|Panda_> requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1366, 0), size=(1366, 768), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[00:37] <Rogue|Panda_> that is the error I get
[00:37] <almoxarife> EyePulp: a service? does this service have a name?
[00:37] <Rogue|Panda_> the size changes for each resolution I try but I always get the error
[00:38] <EyePulp> almoxarife: a node.js based web service - I haven't named it.
[00:38] <seakinghelp> where is the off topic room please?
[00:39] <html> WhiteOwl-m,   wifi care your looking for?
[00:39] <aBound> nVidia ftw. :P
[00:39] <kop> aBound, what you said
[00:40] <Duality> hi
[00:40] <kop> how do I get kernel source from http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/smb/linux-2.6.32.y-drm33.z.git;a=commit;h=7b6e2e94398ac87a6725c6d9b663b76c1f664749 == and before anyone asks git compile failed due to lack of source ...
[00:40] <Duality> where can i edit grub config ?
[00:40] <kop> this all stems from ...Sound Blaster Live Value SB0200 (emu10k1x) is there a way short of hell freezing over to get this snd-card to work on any recent distro that includes nvidia-current ?
[00:40] <WhiteOwl-m> hey html, one that is a) available in europe, b) works with my netgear c) supports WPA2-PSK
[00:40] <WhiteOwl-m> and works out of the box or preferably without ndiswrapper
[00:40] <html> WhiteOwl-m,   wifi care your looking for?   well this card is a plug in play on ubuntu 10.04?  i think it was 10.10 ,,, but its the only few i know of "just to work....
[00:41] <Rogue|Panda_> oh wait... it works now lol
[00:41] <html> WhiteOwl-m,   http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1076836&SRCCODE=SHOPPINGDF&cm_mmc_o=2mHCjCmtB55bETCjCVqHCjCdwwp&cpncode=30-13334496-2
[00:41] <Rogue|Panda_> dr_willis, guess I figured it out lol... thanks for the help anyway
[00:41] <Oer> kop that soundcard is not well supported, in any distro
[00:41] <WhiteOwl-m> thanks html, will check it out!
[00:41] <WhiteOwl-m> like this irc, always helpful inputs :)
[00:41] <kop> Rogue|Panda_, magic ?!
[00:41] <Rogue|Panda_> I guess lol
[00:42] <ignacio> spanish?
[00:42] <WhiteOwl-m> should I get it in PCI probably right? always better?
[00:42] <html> well ur lucky i saw your im cuase i wouldnt of hellped,,, i was busy
[00:42] <ignacio> spanish
[00:42] <WhiteOwl-m> hm doesn't say anything about 64bit system.. forgot to mention that
[00:43] <kop> Oer I am cli fluant , multi distro syntax agile and frustrated beyond belief :-/
[00:43]  * kop kicks Dell-OEM-snd
[00:45] <kop> my real issue is ublotto kicked OSS to the curb and PA doesn't play nice w/ anything
[00:45] <Rogue|Panda_> fluent
[00:45] <aBound> To edit grub: nano /etc/default/grub once edited you'd have to save the file and update grub. sudo update-grub. :P
[00:45] <kop> Rogue|Panda_, get used to it , i jus thin i cn tpye
[00:45] <hateb> recommended swap file size with 3 gigs of ram and no swap partition is ?
[00:45] <WhiteOwl-m> thanks html, american page again :/ should move to america.. switzerland sucks anyway. but thanks, maybe I get the device here somewhere
[00:46] <Oer> no need for sudo : update-grub will do
[00:46] <Rogue|Panda_> lol
[00:46] <Rogue|Panda_> jut figured that being the word that it is... someone should correct it
[00:46] <Rogue|Panda_> :P
[00:47] <Rogue|Panda_> OK, now if I can figure out why this thing is chopping off the left side of my screen then I will be good
[00:47] <Oer> hated, 3 Gb needs 3 Gb, and more if you want sleep/hybernate
[00:48] <html> WhiteOwl-m,  well just get the exact think somewhere else
[00:49] <kop> Oer,  (there is a real need for a sarcasm font ) "thankyou for stating the obvious to the apparently oblivious "  Yeah emu10k1x is not well supported but was working up to mid 10.04 (around april-may of the year )
[00:49] <hateb> 2xmem size for hibernations ?
[00:50] <dr_willis> hateb: at least mem size.. 2x mem would be very safe size.
[00:50] <dr_willis> hateb:  depends on what your sustem is doing also. :)
[00:50] <kop> hateb, then for those of us w/ 40+ tabs open in a browser ...
[00:51] <Oer> hateb, a little more than 3Gb , 4 will be enough to save mem & systemstate
[00:51] <koshie> Hello. That's true in Ubuntu 11.10 we can update the system graphicaly witouth password ?
[00:51] <anynickname> hi, could I make a quick request? I'm using adium (OSX) for IRC, and would like to see how it handles notifications when someone says my name
[00:51] <anynickname> could anyone just say my nickname in a few moments so I can test it?
[00:52] <anynickname> thanks in advance
[00:52]  * dr_willis pokes anynickname
[00:52] <somsip> !test | anynickname
[00:52] <Oer> koshie no
[00:52] <kop> hateb, a fair rule of thumb is total memory consumed in the output of "top" in a typical session x2
[00:52] <anynickname> thank you somsip
[00:52] <anynickname> works great
[00:53] <hateb> thx guys
[00:53] <anynickname> somsip, I did not know about #test, not a big IRC user, thank you
[00:53] <anynickname> #test
[00:53] <aBound> Will 16GB be enough to hibernate. :P
[00:53] <koshie> Type /join #test
[00:53] <koshie> anynickname,
[00:53] <koshie> aBound, I'm not sure :D
[00:54] <aBound> hehe
[00:54] <code_junkie> id go 24GB to be safe
[00:54] <Iceheart> I have my daily question =D
[00:54] <aBound> code_junkie, It was a joke. :P
[00:54] <Iceheart> laptop disconnects from my router and asks me to reenter the password every time I close it
[00:55] <Iceheart> But restarts, and shutdowns do not do it.
[00:55] <Iceheart> Only when I close it.
[00:55] <Tony_> i am at a motel, and the wireless is not connecting to the network. i am using 10.04 LTS recent install, should the wireless adapter pick up the signal or do i need more drivers?
[00:55] <hateb> when you in motel you need a hooker not more drivers
[00:55] <aBound> Tony_, It would normally pick up if you previously had it working elsewhere. Unless, you haven't installed the wireless drivers for your system.
[00:55] <hateb> you are*
[00:56] <Tony_> hateb, lol
[00:56] <WhiteOwl-m> Wireless connection Iceheart? Not that I have an answer but if you have a working wlan card..
[00:56] <Oer> Iceheart, disable password in your energy-config
[00:56] <Iceheart> Yes it is a wireless connection.
[00:56] <dr_willis> Tony_:  has it worked at other wireless locations?
[00:57] <Tony_> dr_willis, no recent install at this location
[00:58] <Tony_> dr_willis, the wireless is built in to the computer
[01:00] <aBound> Tony_,  To check the network controller you're currently using. Open a terminal and type: lspci | grep Network
[01:01] <aBound> Blah, he left.
[01:03] <aBound> The "locate" cmd rocks.
[01:04] <WhiteOwl-m> aBound, ur an expert on wireless Ubunutu 11.10 64 bit? ;)
[01:05] <aBound> WhiteOwl-m, Nope but would be nice.
[01:05] <jolaren> I'm trying to launch xterm from my srv and it says xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[01:05] <aBound> :P
[01:05] <smw> how can I install a local package with apt?
[01:05] <cheapie> smw: You mean a package on your hard drive?
[01:05] <WhiteOwl-m> it would! so I guess you don't have any personal wireless pci/usb recommendations for me ;)
[01:05] <smw> cheapie, yes
[01:05] <andyvy> smw: double click on it.
[01:05] <anynickname> aBound: can locate do something that find can't?
[01:05] <WhiteOwl-m> I know all the public pages and they're great, but sometimes they're contradicting..
[01:05] <cheapie> smw: sudo dpkg -i (package)
[01:06] <smw> cheapie, with apt
[01:06] <aBound> anynickname, Yes.
[01:06] <smw> cheapie, with automatic dependency resolution
[01:06] <Lesterwood> http://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/1202178
[01:06] <Lesterwood> opinions?
[01:06] <aBound> anynickname, Open a terminal and type: find signal.h (it won't find it). Now type: locate signal.h
[01:06] <cheapie> smw: Hmm - i'll go read the man page and see what I can do for you...
[01:06] <jolaren> I'm trying to launch xterm from my srv and it says xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[01:06] <html> Tony_ in a public place sometimes you need to login to a web portal like  ,,, "WWW.hotel8.com/uyrb/wifi,,, look for that  ask around
[01:07] <jolaren> what can I do?
[01:08] <aBound> Locate finds files by name whereas Find searches for directories in a hierarchy.
[01:08] <cheapie> smw: It looks like you'll have to either set up your own repository, or pull the dependencies list from the package and feed it to apt-get.
[01:08] <smw> :-\
[01:08] <anynickname> aBound: but what about concerning regular files? (I'm asking because I have a script that I could change, using that)
[01:08] <html> WhiteOwl-m,  i thought i gave you one... what are you looking for?
[01:08] <smw> cheapie, thanks
[01:08] <jolaren>  xclock
[01:08] <jolaren> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[01:08] <cheapie> smw: Is this just something you want to install once?
[01:09] <WhiteOwl-m> html, yours looks fine and I will test it but it does not explicly state 64 bit support which is rather important for me
[01:09] <dr_willis> jolaren:  ewhat os is on your server? how did you ssh into the remote box?
[01:09] <WhiteOwl-m> also it does not support wpa2 which is a minor setback, but still.. *nice-to-have*..
[01:09] <WhiteOwl-m> appreciate your help tough a lot! don't get me wrong
[01:10] <sgo11> hi, i have a file called [ under /usr/bin/. what is it?
[01:10] <cheapie> smw: If you just want to install this a few times, you could see what dpkg complains about, and install that with apt-get.
[01:10] <anynickname> aBound: the script does "find $HOME/Library/* -iname "*$APPNAME*" -exec mv -v {} $HOME/.Trash/$APPNAME$/ \;"
[01:10] <anynickname> aBound: could I change that to use locate, effectively?
[01:10] <aBound> anynickname, Regular files probably with a command switch. Haven't fully used the command to it's full extent.
[01:11] <smw> cheapie, just found gdebi
[01:11] <anynickname> aBound: I'll look into it, sound promising
[01:11] <cheapie> smw: Whoops - I forgot that existed.
[01:11] <aBound> No problem.
[01:11] <aBound> :P
[01:11] <smw> cheapie, it seems to install local packages
[01:11] <smw> cheapie, yep :-)
[01:11] <cheapie> smw: Yeah, that's what you want.
[01:11] <dr_willis> gdebi foo.deb    is handy
[01:12] <DarkStar1> which came first chromium or google-crash chromium?
[01:12] <html> WhiteOwl-m,  its good for 32bit, and 12$ for a big name company i would try it,,, cuz in my exp. some 32 bit still works with64but,,, it doesnt matter cuz ubuntu seems to pull the driver that works
[01:12] <DarkStar1> aka google chrome
[01:12] <jadoe> is there a way to mount apple's sparsebundles? disk image, split up into 8mb chunks, hfs+ inside, aes encrypted. i fear there is not. :-)
[01:13] <FxMasta> wanna learn how to trade, e book + system, daily 200 $ in 3 hours http://uploading.com/files/3m785864/Forex%2BTrading%2BStrategies.rar/
[01:14] <WhiteOwl-m> wanna learn how you can not really learn to trade? Read Fooled by Randomness from Nassim Taleb
[01:14] <Iceheart> ahaha
[01:14] <Iceheart> Anybody else have any ideas on how to fix it?
[01:15] <cheapie> Icehart: Fix what?
[01:15] <smokycat> aBound: find . -name "signal.h"    isn't it work?
[01:15] <Iceheart> closing laptop causes it to lose password to my wireless connection
[01:15] <Iceheart> restart and shutdown does not cause it.
[01:16] <aBound> smokycat, Nope.
[01:16] <html> iceheart , have you looked at your "keyring?
[01:16] <dr_willis> Iceheart:  if you reenter the password it reconnects?
[01:16] <Iceheart> yes it reconnects as soon as password is entered
[01:16] <Iceheart> keyring?
[01:16] <wingnut2626a> B
[01:16] <dr_willis> Iceheart:  gnome has a keyring feature to rember those passwords.
[01:16] <dr_willis> !keyring
[01:17] <aBound> locate grub
[01:17] <aBound> :P
[01:17] <aBound> locate grub >> mygrubfile
[01:17] <sgo11> how gnome-shell dock handles the icon? how to change the icon ? thanks.
[01:17] <html> !keyring
[01:18] <almoxarife> Iceheart: easy enough to check, suspend/return and look to see i if the process gnome-keyring daemon is still running
[01:18] <smokycat> aBound: signal.h is in your home directory ?
[01:18] <Iceheart> ok
[01:18] <aBound> smokycat, Nope it's somewhere other than my home directory. Seeing as signal.h is part of the kernel in itself.
[01:18] <almoxarife> Iceheart: i assume it is running now
[01:18] <Tony_> i am in a motel and i recently installed 10.04 LTS, how do i check if the built in wireless adpt. is working.
[01:19] <dr_willis> Tony_:  see what lspci says the wireless is. the addational-drivers tool may want you to install extra drivers also.
[01:19] <aBound> smokycat, No worries I can easily find it with the "locate" command.
[01:20] <html> Iceheart, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Keyring
[01:20] <hateb> swap total: 6134, used: 1 haha overkill
[01:20] <Iceheart> gnome_keyring is running after I suspend
[01:20] <almoxarife> speaking of gnome-keyring, its in the auto-run config screen, would some one copy paste the command line here please?
[01:20] <dr_willis> ive noticed it saying  'used: 1'  befor... which is odd .
[01:21] <cheapie> hateb: The family computer here has 32GB swap...
[01:21] <dr_willis> no matter what i was running.. 1 was used..
[01:21] <hateb> I coubt you ever need it :)
[01:21] <dr_willis> Rounding up perhaps.
[01:21] <hateb> doubt*
[01:21] <smokycat> aBound: I think find / -name "signal.h" will work with using enormous time. use locate will better.
[01:22] <Iceheart> Did the keyring change between 11.04 and 11.10? Because this did not occour until after upgrading to 11.10.
[01:22] <almoxarife> Iceheart: who are allowed to use your wireless? anyone? or you only and do you login or auto log?
[01:22] <joy> wow
[01:22] <aBound> smokycat, No doubt that worked but looks like locate is easier. Interesting.
[01:22] <Iceheart> I am allowed to use my wireless, only those I give the password too are allowed to use it.
[01:22] <Iceheart> I manually log in with a password.
[01:23] <wireless> Ugh.  Airbase-ng is having a bug where it goes to channel 255 and wont change.  Its a bug in the newer kernels.  I have no idea how to sersolve this issue. Any ideas?
[01:23] <html> tony_ just like you do in windows 7 ,, if there a singal your picking up then its on  if you conneted then you on the net,,  but if you see no wifi names that show up then its not on
[01:23] <StepNjump> Could someone tell me what permission you show on file .thunderbird/1z695qsl.default/panacea  thank you
[01:24] <aBound> eBooks to the rescue.
[01:25] <Iceheart> I also have it set to connect automatically in my network settings.
[01:25] <wireless> Will virtualbox properly virtualize my usb wireless adapter and my builtin wireless card?  I know in the past when I'v used it, it turn wireless into ethernet, which is not what I want.  THANKS
[01:26] <html> tony_ ?
[01:26] <almoxarife> Iceheart: there is a log file for suspend, look at it for anything odd, pm-suspend.log in /var/log/
[01:28] <almoxarife> wireless: you get to chose the connection type, eth or wlan , that choice just chose your hardware
[01:29] <wireless> almoxarife: is it possible to have my builtin wireless card connected as eth, and my usb wireless card connected as wlan at the SAME time>>
[01:29] <wireless> ?
[01:29] <wireless> through virtualbox that is
[01:30] <wireless> Or, is there a better virtualization program that handles networking?
[01:30] <almoxarife> wireless: possible? anything is possible, you need to ask the #virtualbox world though
[01:30] <Iceheart> Says "having network manager wake interfaces back up...failed.
[01:30] <html> !nic
[01:30] <wireless> how do I find out my current wireless drivers in the terminal?
[01:30] <Iceheart> Only thing I found.
[01:32] <aBound> wireless, Open a terminal and type: lspci | grep Network
[01:32] <aBound> Oops, wireless drivers.
[01:32] <aBound> Blah! my mistake.
[01:32] <WhiteOwl-m> and report your card, personal interest xD
[01:32] <wireless> thanks aBound
[01:33] <aBound> wireless, My mistake it only finds the Network controller in-use. The drivers I can't say if it'll find.
[01:33] <balt11t> my flashdrive boots on all of my computers, except for the one I need it to. When I select the USB device, it says that no bios is found, but I know it works, because I tested it on other computers
[01:33] <wireless> aBound that only shows wlan0 not wlan1
[01:33] <almoxarife> wireless: thats because wlan1 is usb
[01:33] <wireless> o
[01:34] <almoxarife> wireless: your words
[01:34] <wireless> how do I show the drivers for the wlan1 usb?
[01:34] <wireless> it is
[01:34] <aBound> wireless, You could just type: lspci
[01:34] <almoxarife> wireless: do you look anything up yourself?
[01:34] <aBound> To see what it contains.
[01:34] <wireless> I have looked it up but getting only ways to show wlan0
[01:36] <almoxarife> wireless: tried looking at the various forms of 'ls........'?? could one be lsusb?
[01:36] <wireless> I'm still not seeing it by just lspci by the way
[01:36] <aBound> wireless, lshw -C network
[01:36] <wireless> thanks aBound
[01:36] <aBound> Try that.
[01:37] <balt11t> no ideas then?
[01:37] <almoxarife> wireless: or you could use 'lsusb' bet you find your wlan1
[01:38] <wireless> that worked thanks
[01:38] <aBound> :P
[01:38] <html> WhiteOwl-m,   loook !!! google has done   https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=nic&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=nic&hl=en&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=9HV&sa=X&channel=fs&tbs=cat:290,pdtr0:709607|709610,pdtr1:709591|709594&tbm=shop&ei=cTgOT7oOiaHxA9uwzdUF&ved=0CPQBEMEJKAE&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=dadc9add28a0c478&biw=853&bih=313
[01:39] <WhiteOwl-m> wow, how the hell did you do that
[01:39] <WhiteOwl-m> thanks html!
[01:39] <aBound> A nice tinyurl would of been cool. :P
[01:39] <WhiteOwl-m> I like em long.
[01:39] <html> im not sure,,
[01:39] <aBound> WhiteOwl-m, haha
[01:40] <balt11t> Also, I can't get Ubuntu to detect my second display, although Windows does
[01:40] <html> lol
[01:40] <wingnut2626a> Anyone know how to disable a power on password on a thinkpad t420?
[01:40] <balt11t> But truly, I'd really like to figure out my first problem >,<
[01:40] <almoxarife> wingnut2626a: pull the battery?
[01:40] <html>  looOOKK!! Ubuntu /channel  is in the name !
[01:40] <wingnut2626a> Didn't work
[01:41] <almoxarife> wingnut2626a: ask the owner?
[01:41] <wingnut2626a> Also disabled.it from the BIOS to no avail
[01:41] <almoxarife> wingnut2626a: ask the owner?
[01:41] <wingnut2626a> I am the owner
[01:42] <dr_willis> a bios password?  Not really a Ubuntu Specific question. :)
[01:42] <WhiteOwl-m> shit it's 3 am in the morning here.. html, thanks a lot, will check em out tomorrow and order them. have a good evening/night/morning wherever you are
[01:42] <almoxarife> wingnut2626a: can you tell your other self the password to your laptop?
[01:42] <WhiteOwl-m> bb and thanks
[01:42] <html> WhiteOwl-m,  frind me
[01:42] <aBound> WhiteOwl-m, Blame IRC.
[01:42] <aBound> lol
[01:42] <html> WhiteOwl-m,  friend me
[01:42] <WhiteOwl-m> sec
[01:43] <WhiteOwl-m> gotcha
[01:43] <wingnut2626a> Its the right password!  I can start it with the password.its just annoying
[01:43] <almoxarife> html: can you two take it private?
[01:43] <WhiteOwl-m> cu guys and thanks again :) bye
[01:43] <balt11t> Screw it, I'll put it on a DVD
[01:44] <almoxarife> wingnut2626a: oh, how about blanking the password  ?
[01:44] <wingnut2626a> Tried that too
[01:44] <almoxarife> wingnut2626a: tried calling support?
[01:44] <html> almoxarife,  for what? he wanted a wifi card that plays well with linux ,,, but hes g2g ,,, so well doin this later
[01:44] <wingnut2626a> They told me to blank it which I did
[01:45] <almoxarife> wingnut2626a: dr_willis had it right, live with it
[01:47] <hass> I have a weird problem with my Ubuntu installation.  Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.
[01:47] <hass> It seems that Nautilus is running as root
[01:47] <wingnut2626a> Yeah #ubuntu
[01:47] <xangua> hass: like in: it seems you are running nautilus as root¿¿
[01:48] <hass> the root desktop is shown
[01:48] <xangua> hass: how did you¿ because it can't happen on it's own ;)
[01:48] <hass> when I open my home folder the icon is the standard folder icon instead of the little house icon
[01:48] <hass> I'm sure I did something, but I can't figure out what I did
[01:48] <hass> it has been this way for a while
[01:49] <hass> also I have been having permission problems.  If I copy a file in Nautilus it sets the owner to root
[01:49] <almoxarife> hass: if you were asked for a password to start nautilus then i can see you being in root, or you are in the root account to begin with, otherwise no, it would not
[01:50] <hass> it does not ask for a password when I start the computer
[01:50] <almoxarife> hass: permission problems related to you playing with sudo/su/gksu etc?
[01:50] <hass> it does ask for a password when I open my home folder through the Places menu
[01:50] <hass> no
[01:50] <hass> ok, yes
[01:50] <almoxarife> hass: yes, more like
[01:51] <hass> when I open nautilus it asks for a password, even when I open my home folder
[01:51] <almoxarife> hass: that would do it
[01:51] <hass> but why is the root desktop displayed?  And why is it opening my home folder as root?
[01:52] <joebobjoe> I need help making a Live USB. I've followed the instructions but the USB is not recognizable by OS X, and not bootable. It has an fdisk partion scheme and on Apple's website, a GUID scheme is required... :(
[01:52] <hass> Also, some programs seem to have trouble accessing files
[01:52] <almoxarife> hass:  cause it opened as root
[01:52] <almoxarife> hass: permission problems related to you playing with sudo/su/gksu etc?
[01:52] <BuMmR> Greetings fellow adventurers!
[01:52] <hass> I don't run sudo/su/gksu.  It seems to run gksu automatically
[01:53] <anynickname> can anyone explain the difference (if any) between chat.freenode.net and irc.freenode.net? (adium had chat.freenode,net in the options)
[01:53] <pangolin> anynickname: there isn't, one is an alias for the other. #freenode for more info
[01:54] <anynickname> pangolin: thank you
[01:54] <guzard> hello friends
[01:54] <pangolin> sure thing
[01:54] <guzard> where can i ask about a name of an old movie plz?
[01:55] <hass> almoxarife: My root issues may have started when I was setting up the fstab file
[01:55] <almoxarife> hass: care to pastebin your /var/log/auth.log ??
[01:56] <hass> sure
[01:56] <almoxarife> hass: share the fstab too
[01:56] <almoxarife> guzard: #linux , try there
[01:57] <hass> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/801275/
[01:58] <hass> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/801279/
[02:01] <diverdude> Is there a ppa which serves ruby 1.9.2?
[02:02] <xangua> you can search on launchpad.net diverdude
[02:03] <diverdude> is it difficult to make a debian package manually?
[02:03] <pangolin> diverdude: https://launchpad.net/~pratikmsinha/+archive/ruby192+bindings
[02:05] <almoxarife> hass: the log sort of says it all
[02:05] <Arcademan> May I ask is there a way to remove lubuntu from Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:05] <hass> almoxarife: what's that?  I don't know what to make of it
[02:06] <aBound> Arcademan, sudo apt-get remove lubuntu ??
[02:07] <almoxarife> aBound: that wont work, it will leave remnants to no end.
[02:07] <Arcademan> aBound, it be lubuntu-desktop even then it leaves it all there
[02:07] <aBound> Ahh...
[02:07] <Duality> how long does it take to compile and install a kernel ?
[02:07] <aBound> What about sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:07] <almoxarife> Arcademan: already have another desktop installed?
[02:07] <Arcademan> Yes almoxarife
[02:07] <NotJimCarrey> trying to get hdmi audio working in 11.10 on a gt430 and get "aplay: main:660: audio open error: Device or resource busy". Can anyone help me fix this?
[02:08] <pangolin> Arcademan: go to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome scroll down to the command to remove lubuntu
[02:08] <luoshupeng> list
[02:08] <almoxarife> Arcademan: yeap, what pangolin said
[02:08] <pangolin> !list > luoshupeng
[02:09] <almoxarife> NotJimCarrey: boy are you in luck, thats what i got, except on a 11.04
[02:10] <NotJimCarrey> i've tried a lot of stuff from googling, but can't get it working
[02:10] <Arcademan> thanks pangolin I edit this I want a few packages :)
[02:10] <gh0strider> hey i was hoping that someone could help me out because i am really desperate i have to get this project done for schoool and so i really need someone's advice...when i was doing "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" before it used to print out readable lat/longs in readable text but now its printing out weird encrypted stuff that i can't read, can anyone tell me how to change it back?
[02:11] <gh0strider> i could really use someones help...
[02:11] <soloquiem> I need some help uninstalling ubuntu 11.1. I don't have a dual boot, just ubuntu. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[02:11] <hass> almoxarife: could you explain what the log file tells you?
[02:11] <almoxarife> NotJimCarrey: you have onboard sound as well?
[02:12] <NotJimCarrey> yeah, but it's disabled in bios
[02:12] <anynickname> soloquiem: what do you mean? How do you want to uninstall?
[02:12] <almoxarife> NotJimCarrey: did you make conf changes anywhere?
[02:12] <pangolin> soloquiem: put in the cd of whatever you want to install instead of ubuntu
[02:12] <anynickname> soloquiem: can't you just install whatever OS you intend on top of it?
[02:12] <NotJimCarrey> to /etc/pulse/default.pa
[02:13] <soloquiem> I have a windos usb boot drive, but ubuntu my system will not boot from the usb.
[02:13] <NotJimCarrey> load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0,3
[02:13] <pangolin> soloquiem: make sure you have boot from usb enabled in bios
[02:13] <pangolin> soloquiem: more help with windows in ##windows
[02:14] <soloquiem> pangolin: how do I change that in bios?
[02:14] <AlbireoX> Hi, is there a term for the design pattern of passing arguments to static methods for the static methods to do stuff? (Not factory as it doesn't create anything or singleton because it isn't an object)
[02:14] <pangolin> soloquiem: when you boot your computer it should tell you what key to press to get into SETUP.
[02:14] <anynickname> soloquiem: when you boot your computer, try one of the F's (F2, F8 or F11 should Work), or Esc
[02:15] <NotJimCarrey> restored original default.pa, but still the same error
[02:15] <anynickname> soloquiem: or as pangolin said, it should appear when you boot, but it's usually one of those
[02:15] <almoxarife> NotJimCarrey: make a copy of the files you made changes to, save them in your home folder, and re-install 'pulseaudio' , you can save the files and remove pulseaudio before reboot, but install pulseaudio after reboot, got it?
[02:15] <soloquiem> anynickname: I will try that
[02:15] <anynickname> soloquiem: when you're in the BIOS settings, it's easy, just go to "boot order", and change it there
[02:17] <kieppie> hi all. I'm having trouble getting MPD to push ASLA audio out through my secondary sound card. SLSA to XBMC on my primary (HDMI) works fine
[02:17] <soloquiem> anynickname: is the number key specific for ubuntu, or the computer I'm using?
[02:18] <anynickname> soloquiem: the computer
[02:18] <almoxarife> kieppie: ask in #xbmc , someone will assist
[02:19] <anynickname> soloquiem: but as pangolin pointed out, it should appear when you boot (usually does, although I've seen cases where it doesn't, or it's just to fast)
[02:19] <kieppie> almoxarife: my XBMC setup is OK in that regard, so my query's not really relevant there (alshough I have IR keymapping under kernel 3.0.x that I'm trying to work through0
[02:19] <almoxarife> kieppie: suit yourself
[02:19] <soloquiem> anynickname: haven't seen it, restarting a couple times now
[02:20] <kieppie> almoxarife: I'm already in the #XBMC channel..
[02:20] <almoxarife> kieppie: me too
[02:20] <anynickname> soloquiem: if I does not tell you which key it is, just try Esc and all of the function keys
[02:20] <anynickname> soloquiem: you can even try them all on the same boot, it should work too
[02:22] <soloquiem> anynickname: that worked, thanks
[02:22] <MagusOTB> Is there a way for me to formally express the fact that I think banshee is horrible and should be replaced as the default audio player in ubuntu?
[02:22] <iggymydog> hi
[02:22] <anynickname> soloquiem: glad to help
[02:22] <hateb> are there any good rpg or strategy games on ubuntu ?
[02:23] <anynickname> hateb: battle for wesnoth is a popular choice
[02:23] <anynickname> hateb: it's actually cross platform (even iOS)
[02:23] <anynickname> hateb: it's turn-based, and incredibly complex
[02:24] <almoxarife> MagusOTB: thought of trying something else?
[02:24] <almoxarife> !ot | hateb
[02:24] <anynickname> hateb: oh, and it's free, which is always a plus
[02:25] <hateb> I see, but graphic is from commodore age :)
[02:25] <MagusOTB> almoxarife: I do use something else (audacious), but I think defaulting to banshee is a bug. Nobody I know thinks it makes any sense.
[02:25] <almoxarife> MagusOTB: having issues with audicious?
[02:25] <MagusOTB> It's the only program I've ever used with a failure mode of "Blast metal music"
[02:26] <NotJimCarrey> ok, there's pulseaudio, alsa, oss, esound. any others?
[02:26] <anynickname> hajhouse: video for battle for wesnoth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIt69vznegs&feature=player_embedded
[02:26] <NotJimCarrey> gonna rebuild my audio section from scratch
[02:27] <MagusOTB> No, audacious is great, but my DE is all messed up so I'm using the standard ubuntu session, which has banshee, and it is behaving really strangely
[02:27] <NotJimCarrey> purging them, reinstalling, then getting it to work
[02:27] <anynickname> hateb: if you want real time strategy, there is Glest (I never played it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyEZV5uqM2g&feature=player_embedded#!
[02:28] <MagusOTB> Like, is randomly jumping off the play queue into this horrible metal music I didn't even know I had.
[02:29] <faggot> whats up losers
[02:29] <MagusOTB> me!
[02:29] <almoxarife> MagusOTB: i can help with that, yes, you seem to have the 'horrible metal music'
[02:29] <iggymydog> i turned my old junk dell windowns xp into ubuntu and its super slow eny tips?
[02:29] <faggot> Debian is gonna destroy your silly forum in a hour
[02:29] <faggot> join #debian for details
[02:30] <faggot> We are going to DDOS you into oblivion ;)
[02:30] <aeon-ltd> iggymydog: don't use unity?
[02:30] <faggot> Your distro sucks and you`ll be finished soon
[02:30] <aeon-ltd> faggot: he heheheheheheh
[02:30] <faggot> Happy downtime :)
[02:30] <aeon-ltd> heheh heheheh
[02:30] <iggymydog> unity?
[02:30] <urlin2u> faggot, k jimmy
[02:30] <iggymydog> whats unity?
[02:30] <MagusOTB> well, I do have it, it's in my rommate's folder on our fileserver. The question is why does it seemingly arbitrarily believe that it's finished the play queue and move on to that?
[02:30] <aeon-ltd> iggymydog: the default gui on ubuntu
[02:30] <iggymydog> how do i change it?
[02:30] <MagusOTB> Also, I find it annoying that there's no intuitive way to play an audio CD
[02:30] <iggymydog> how do i change it
[02:31] <leontopod> Unity is the new graphical interface for Ubuntu, it is meant to run on pads and cellphones
[02:31] <MagusOTB> if I select all the somgs, I can't drag them to the play queue, if I start with the first song, it skips to the play queue after that, if I select all the songs and right click and hit play, it only plays the one I right clicked on
[02:31] <iggymydog> so its quick
[02:31] <aeon-ltd> iggymydog: firstly install another Desktop Environment (for future ref 'DE') like xfce (xubuntu) lxde (lubuntu)
[02:31] <iggymydog> ummm....
[02:31] <aeon-ltd> iggymydog: the specifications would be nice to know
[02:31] <iggymydog> im a noob
[02:31] <MagusOTB> iggymydog: select another session when you login. After you type your username, hit the little gear thing
[02:32] <Rallias> is there an sh script in ubuntu to mass rename files?
[02:32] <MagusOTB> and select 'ubuntu classic'
[02:32] <Oer> iggymydog, how much ram is in that old dell ?
[02:32] <aeon-ltd> iggymydog: do you know how to use terminal?
[02:32] <iggymydog> the ram is maxxed
[02:32] <aeon-ltd> ...
[02:32] <NotJimCarrey> if i'm redoing the whole sound section from start, do i need to remove gstreamer too?
[02:32] <almoxarife> maxed at ?(insert number)
[02:32] <iggymydog> im on my mac right now
[02:32] <MagusOTB> aeon-ltd: he doesn't need to know how to use a term to use the old DE
[02:33] <iggymydog> yes i know how to use term
[02:33] <aeon-ltd> MagusOTB: depending on the amount of ram that may not be much faster/lighter
[02:33] <iggymydog> so i click switch users?
[02:33] <aeon-ltd> MagusOTB: but yeah couldn't hurt to try first
[02:33] <iggymydog> or?.....
[02:33] <aeon-ltd> iggymydog: logout, then change session
[02:33] <MagusOTB> aeon-ltd: The lack of the compositing stuff had made a huge difference in my experience
[02:33] <iggymydog> how do i do that
[02:34] <iggymydog> @aeon-ltd how?
[02:34] <MagusOTB> iggymydog: log out, then after you enter your username, hit the gear thing next to it (I think, I don't remember exactly, but somewhere there's a menu that says 'sessions'
[02:34] <iggymydog> ok
[02:34] <iggymydog> leeme try
[02:34] <MagusOTB> iggymydog: try them out, see if any of them are better
[02:34] <MagusOTB> I think what you want is ubuntu classic 2d
[02:35] <iggymydog> dont see a gear or menue...
[02:35] <MagusOTB> just a sec, I'll check on mine
[02:35] <iggymydog> ok
[02:35] <iggymydog> its a dell demention 46000
[02:36] <iggymydog> got it
[02:36] <iggymydog> user defined session i click?
[02:36] <Oer> you can change session only after giving username
[02:36] <iggymydog> i gave one
[02:36] <iggymydog> do i click user defined session?
[02:37] <Oer> jups, it gives you choice
[02:37] <iggymydog> yes?
[02:37] <iggymydog> i click it
[02:37] <iggymydog> user defined session
[02:38] <iggymydog> what ever i clicked it lol
[02:38] <iggymydog> now im logged in like normal?
[02:39] <iggymydog> hi?? enyone? help??? my computer faster?
[02:39] <magusOTB> iggymydog: Yeah, there should be a gear next to your name on the login screen
[02:39] <sgo11> where does awn preference store? I can't find it. it's not in ~/.config/awn/.
[02:39] <iggymydog> leeme try again
[02:39] <iggymydog> ill log out
[02:39] <magusOTB> Also, not even sure if that conversation is still happening, my xsession is still hosed and I had to reboot
[02:40] <iggymydog> sloooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[02:40] <iggymydog> wtf?
[02:40] <iggymydog> ok
[02:40] <magusOTB> iggymydog: ?
[02:40] <iggymydog> here it is
[02:40] <iggymydog> log in as dillon
[02:40] <iggymydog> i click it?
[02:41] <magusOTB> is there a gear next to the name?
[02:41] <iggymydog> no
[02:41] <magusOTB> just to the right of the lettering
[02:41] <iggymydog> no
[02:41] <iggymydog> a persoin to the left
[02:41] <magusOTB> then select the name, and while you're typing your password, is it there?
[02:41] <iggymydog> no
[02:42] <magusOTB> Are you on 11.10?
[02:42] <iggymydog> just the grey avatar to the left
[02:42] <iggymydog> no
[02:42] <magusOTB> to the right of the name
[02:42] <iggymydog> im on like 11.03?
[02:42] <magusOTB> oh, then it'll be in one of the menus along the bottom IIRC
[02:42] <iggymydog> yepp here it is
[02:42] <magusOTB> I don't remember exactly what it looks like
[02:42] <iggymydog> desktop eddition
[02:42] <iggymydog> recovery consol
[02:42] <iggymydog> user defined session
[02:42] <iggymydog> or safe mode
[02:43] <magusOTB> wait, what?
[02:43] <iggymydog> its a drop down menue
[02:43] <magusOTB> yeah, it doesn't have the classic option?
[02:43] <iggymydog> no
[02:43] <karmicthreat_TGG> So I'm having a grub 1.99 problem  I need the machine to auto boot but it gets stuck waiting for me to hit enter.  I've tried a bunch of stuff including manually setting timeout in 00_header.
[02:43] <magusOTB> iggymydog: Strange... I'm not sure what package it's in, You could look into installing XFCE, it's designed to be fast
[02:44] <magusOTB> and resource light
[02:44] <iggymydog> deskyop eddition
[02:44] <iggymydog> but not classic
[02:44] <iggymydog> ok
[02:44] <iggymydog> is that in the app get?
[02:44] <magusOTB> should be
[02:44] <iggymydog> kk leeme log in ill look
[02:45] <iggymydog> ??!?! a hard disk may be failing
[02:45] <iggymydog> hard disk fail immenent
[02:45] <magusOTB> O_o
[02:45] <iggymydog> ok...thats cool
[02:46] <iggymydog> eny ways....im at  app get...i mean software center
[02:46] <iggymydog> now what?
[02:46] <Oer> karmicthreat_TGG, put a # before #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[02:46] <magusOTB> I think you want xubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <iggymydog> thattl do what exactely?
[02:47] <jameslordhz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/801307/
[02:47] <jameslordhz> how to know which command the package libqt4-sql-mysql  installed?
[02:47] <magusOTB> iggymydog: Install all the XFCE stuff, which should give you an xubuntu/sfce option in that dialog when you log in
[02:48] <magusOTB> which will be faster and less resource heavy
[02:48] <magusOTB> assuming that's still why you want to change from the new one.
[02:48] <iggymydog> thats alot of stuff.....
[02:48] <magusOTB> if you dislike it you can apt-get uninstall xubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <magusOTB> and then apt-get autoremove
[02:49] <magusOTB> and it will clean up the mess
[02:49] <karmicthreat_TGG> 0er: having a brain fart, whats the cmd to rebuild the cfg after I edit default/grub
[02:49] <aBound> apt-get autoclean
[02:49] <aBound> :P
[02:49] <urlin2u> magusOTB, that will not clean out the desktop.
[02:49] <aBound> update-grub
[02:49] <xangua> magusOTB: it wont, xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[02:50] <iggymydog> theres 109 items
[02:50] <iggymydog> which ones do i do?
[02:50] <iggymydog> all?
[02:50] <magusOTB> It works on other metapackages, are the *-desktop ones special?
[02:50] <iggymydog> and this will speed it up for sure?
[02:50] <almoxarife> magusOTB: yes
[02:50] <aBound> karmicthreat_TGG, update-grub
[02:51] <almoxarife> iggymydog: its time you tag the nick you are talking to
[02:51] <iggymydog> how?
[02:51] <magusOTB> almoxarife: So how do you clean them out?
[02:51] <urlin2u> iggymydog, how much memory do you have?
[02:51] <iggymydog> ive never used an irc
[02:51] <sgo11> I found the answer by myself. awn settings stored in gconf. very stupid. why does it want to do that? so hard for user backup.
[02:51] <iggymydog> i have 32 gigs
[02:52] <magusOTB> iggymydog: of RAM?
[02:52] <urlin2u> iggymydog, memory s ram how much
[02:52] <karmicthreat_TGG> 0er: nope, commenting that out didn't work.
[02:52] <pp7__> anyone tried unity 5.0?
[02:52] <almoxarife> !who | iggymydog
[02:52] <xangua> !puregnome | magusOTB for example if you just want pure gnome
[02:52] <iggymydog> um.........i have no clue
[02:52] <xangua> !pangolin | pp7__
[02:52] <iggymydog> almoxarife i dont know
[02:52] <pp7__> xangua: so?
[02:52] <Oer> pp7__, only available for 12.04 wich is not out yet.
[02:52] <iggymydog> almoxarife: idk
[02:52] <magusOTB> iggymydog: cat /proc/meminfo |grep Total
[02:53] <pp7__> Oer: no way to install it on 11.10?
[02:53] <almoxarife> iggymydog: good job, you got it
[02:53] <magusOTB> iggymydog: at a terminal
[02:53] <iggymydog> magusOTB magusOTB ???
[02:53] <iggymydog> magusOTB: ???
[02:53] <pp7__> Oer: its out for testing: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/unity-50-available-for-testing-in.html#disqus_thread
[02:53] <magusOTB> iggymydog: Yeah?
[02:53] <iggymydog> magusOTB im at term
[02:53] <urlin2u> iggymydog, run this and the memory=ram will show free -mt
[02:53] <iggymydog> magusOTB: im at the term
[02:54] <magusOTB> paste this without quotes: "cat /proc/meminfo |grep Total"
[02:54] <Oer> pp7__, i would not reccomend it, look at te ppa, only for .. ?
[02:54] <aBound> pp7__, Woot regression free and smoother.
[02:54] <iggymydog> kk
[02:54] <iggymydog> magusOTB:  now what?
[02:54] <aBound> I can't wait.
[02:54] <magusOTB> iggymydog: and paste the first number here.
[02:54] <aBound> :P
[02:54] <iggymydog> ??
[02:54] <iggymydog> magusOTB: i cant im on my mac......
[02:55] <SiCKa> http://www.facebook.com/FinancialSTOCK like this page please
[02:55] <magusOTB> iggymydog: Do it on the machine in question...
[02:55] <xangua> SiCKa: stop that please
[02:55] <iggymydog> magusOTB xangua hold on
[02:55] <magusOTB> well, the first digit and the number of digits is what's important
[02:55] <iggymydog> magusOTB:  ok hold on
[02:56] <oooaaaooo> hi guys i have a samsung nc110 netbook running 11.04 and its been running quite "warm"(58C) idle; googling has led me to believe that the fix is to enable pcie_aspm(some kinda power saving mode). Before I edit grub i was wondering if anyone has done this before and had some comments on it?
[02:56] <iggymydog> how do i payste?
[02:56] <iggymydog> it wont let me
[02:57] <almoxarife> !who | iggymydog
[02:57] <oooaaaooo> hold down both mouse buttons
[02:57] <magusOTB> iggymydog: right click in the term, it should paste.
[02:57] <magusOTB> or just type it in.
[02:57] <NotJimCarrey> ok, i got aplay to play on 0,9, and added "load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0,9" to /etc/pulse/default.pa, but can't get xbmc to play audio
[02:57] <iggymydog1> dillon@dillon-Dimension-4600:~$ memory=ram dillon@dillon-Dimension-4600:~$ ^C^C  dillon@dillon-Dimension-4600:~$
[02:58] <iggymydog1> k now what?
[02:58] <oooaaaooo> does anyone have any experience with enabling pcie_aspm?
[02:58] <magusOTB> what?
[02:58] <magusOTB> iggymydog: That output didn't make any sense, did it come from the command I gave you?
[02:58] <almoxarife> NotJimCarrey: ask in #xbmc
[02:58] <NotJimCarrey> just did
[02:58] <iggymydog1> magusOTB: yes
[02:59] <iggymydog1> magusOTB: mabey i should try again?
[02:59] <magusOTB> iggymydog1: Try just cat /proc/meminfo, and one of the lines of output should be the total memory you have
[02:59] <snufft> hi everyone
[02:59] <html> hi
[02:59] <snufft> i'm having a little trouble resetting my password on a ubuntu 10 install. it's a vm that i haven't started in a good 4 months or so.
[02:59] <anynickname> hi snufft
[02:59] <snufft> html: hi :)
[02:59] <iggymydog1> dillon@dillon-Dimension-4600:~$ memory=ram dillon@dillon-Dimension-4600:~$ ^C^C  dillon@dillon-Dimension-4600:~$ cat /proc/meminfo MemTotal:         507784 kB MemFree:           55204 kB Buffers:           17664 kB Cached:           145468 kB SwapCached:        19352 kB Active:           151728 kB Inactive:         204768 kB Active(anon):      89744 kB Inactive(anon):   113936 kB Active(file):      61984 kB Inactive(file):    908
[03:00] <snufft> whenever i try the passwd username, it gives me the list of options, because my username has a space in it
[03:00] <magusOTB> ok
[03:00] <snufft> anynickname: hi :)
[03:00] <armada> iggymydog1: lawl, there's free -m for that.
[03:00] <iggymydog1> ?????
[03:00] <HeGuru> snufft: passwd "username"
[03:01] <snufft> HeGuru: then it tells me that there's no username like that
[03:01] <HeGuru> snufft: or, passwd user\ name (replace space with \ )
[03:01] <snufft> user does not exist
[03:01] <iggymydog1> armada: what do you mean -m
[03:01] <html> snufft,  next time you shuould of had a second account , then you can reset it  from there
[03:02] <iggymydog1> armada: ?
[03:02] <SolarNRG> This is my gf in the bath with one of her new blue bath bombs and it fizzes and turns the bath blue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OxvtYVsLRw
[03:02] <HeGuru> snufft: are you sure your username, try: getent passwd
[03:02] <snufft> hmmm, maybe i've got the username wrong... will reboot and try again :)
[03:02] <HeGuru> snufft: that should give you all the users
[03:02] <magusOTB> iggymydog1: It's another way of getting the information from meminfo that's cleaner than actually catting meminfo, but I didn't know about it.
[03:02] <armada> iggymydog1: free -m
[03:02] <snufft> HeGuru: even root?
[03:02] <magusOTB> iggymydog1: as in tye that into the terminal
[03:03] <iggymydog1> illon-Dimension-4600:~$  dillon@dillon-Dimension-4600:~$ free -m              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached Mem:           495        440         55          0         17        138 -/+ buffers/cache:        283        211 Swap:         1497         32       1465 dillon@dillon-Dimension-4600:~$
[03:03] <snufft> HeGuru: next question, is how do i scroll up in the list lol
[03:03] <HeGuru> snufft: Ctrl+PGUP
[03:03] <snufft> thanks :)
[03:03] <iggymydog1> how do i allow more memmory for ram?
[03:03] <iggymydog1> or something like that
[03:03] <magusOTB> iggymydog1: Yeah, you should probably be using xfce or something light. However, apparently the desktop packages don't behave like things I"m used to, so somebody ese will have to help with getting it going
[03:04] <HeGuru> snufft: sorry its shift+PGUP
[03:04] <magusOTB> iggymydog1: in order to get more RAM you have to get more RAM... like, the actual thing.
[03:04] <Grymmoire> So the terminal program doesn't show up in the launcher when I run it nor is it available as a window I can alt-tab to, and once I minimize the window I can't get at it anymore, since it's not in the launcher or a tab
[03:04] <iggymydog1> dam ...
[03:04] <oooaaaooo> hold down both mouse buttons
[03:04] <iggymydog1> ok
[03:04] <oooaaaooo> oops
[03:04] <oooaaaooo> does anyone have any experience with enabling pcie_aspm?
[03:04] <iggymydog1> well i give up
[03:04] <HeGuru> snufft: you can always use getent passwd | more
[03:04] <Grymmoire> Makes it a bit more annoying to use the terminal, and by a little I mean a lot
[03:05] <snufft> html, HeGuru: thank you both very much, I think it's worked :)
[03:05] <iggymydog1> thanks bye guys
[03:05] <Grymmoire> Is there any way to restore the application to its original state or something? Reset system setting associated with it, etc.
[03:05] <urlin2u> iggymydog, 512 ram rather small ...increased by buying ram sticks.  Yiu can probably run lubuntu fairly well it is the ubuntu base with another desktop.
[03:05] <xangua> Grymmoire: you can reset unity setings: unity --reset
[03:05] <HeGuru> Grymmoire: depends on the application, what application?
[03:05] <Grymmoire> gnome terminal
[03:07] <HeGuru> Grymmoire: you can use gconf-editor to erase gnome-terminal customizations
[03:08] <oooaaaooo> anyone? aspm experience?
[03:08] <xangua> !anyone | oooaaaooo
[03:09] <nivyaj> test
[03:10] <nivyaj> I'm a noob to ubunutu, and I'm trying to install JAVA
[03:10] <xangua> nivyaj: you can install openjdk, java will be removed from repositories
[03:10] <Tony_> how do i check the stats of my computer
[03:10] <xangua> or already is¿
[03:11] <nivyaj> xangua: is openjdk legit?
[03:11] <xangua> nivyaj: openjdk is the open source part of oracle java
[03:11] <nivyaj> xangua:
[03:12] <aeon-ltd> Tony_: stats like what for example?
[03:12] <nivyaj> xangua: ok
[03:12] <stan_> i'm having issues with attached expanding desktop to additional screen, i'm on ubuntu 11. i'm attaching a trinitron crt monitor that i have used (with ease) on win xp.
[03:12] <stan_> Requested size (2080, 1024) exceeds 3D hardware limit (2048, 2048).
[03:12] <stan_> You must either rearrange the displays so that they fit within a (2048, 2048) square
[03:12] <stan_> or select the Ubuntu 2D session at login.
[03:12] <stan_> that's the error message i get
[03:12] <Tony_> aeon-ltd, mhz mem. etc
[03:12] <stan_> any ideas
[03:13] <xangua> nivyaj: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:13] <xangua> that will install Openjdk, the browser plugin and other stuff like adobe flashplugin, audio/video codecs and window fonts, etc.
[03:13] <NotJimCarrey> well huh
[03:13] <NotJimCarrey> i was testing audio in smplayer, it worked, went back to xbmc, and more audio options appeared
[03:13] <NotJimCarrey> finally working again
[03:14] <aeon-ltd> Tony_: lshw -C processor ; and for mem lshw -C memory ;
[03:14] <NotJimCarrey> now back to my compiling problem of "for thumb inter-working we require an architecture which supports blx" when i try building node.js in an ARM environment
[03:14] <nivyaj> xangua: i typed in sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[03:15] <nivyaj> xangua: and it asks for my password... i didn't set up a pass!
[03:15] <xangua> nivyaj: YOU DID
[03:15] <xangua> upps sorry fo the caps
[03:15] <nivyaj> okay, I did :)
[03:16] <NotJimCarrey> lol
[03:16] <nivyaj> when i type in the command sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre ..... do i need to  dl  anything?
[03:16] <nivyaj> first?
[03:16] <Tailkinker> I've got multiple sound cards in LUbuntu 11.10.  There used to be a program called asoundconf that would let me select which I wanted to use.  This appears to be gone.  Any suggestions?
[03:17] <nivyaj> because this is what i got
[03:17] <nivyaj> Reading package lists... Done
[03:17] <nivyaj> Building dependency tree
[03:17] <nivyaj> Reading state information... Done
[03:17] <nivyaj> E: Couldn't find package openjdk-7-jre
[03:17] <FloodBot1> nivyaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <nivyaj> oh. sorry
[03:18] <html> Tailkinker,  see if theres an updated version or a app that the same but different name
[03:18] <magusOTB> Does default ubuntu have a screenshotting program that allows you to drag a box over the screen?
[03:18] <magusOTB> by 'default' I mean the default session
[03:18] <Tailkinker> I'
[03:19] <urlin2u> magusOTB, yeah its called screenshot
[03:19] <Tailkinker> I've already been through the package list forwards and backwards.  Further, I can find no help on the forums for versions after 9.10.
[03:19] <nivyaj> I think I for it working!
[03:20] <nivyaj> xangua:  thanks for your help!
[03:21] <MrKeuner> hello, is it normal to have a red battery in the notification area when power drops below 30%?
[03:21] <MrKeuner> where do I adjust that in /apps/gnome-power-manager?
[03:22] <html> Tailkinker,  http://wiki.marklesh.com/How-to/Asoundconf
[03:26] <Tailkinker> html:  Thanks.  That did the trick.
[03:27] <anynickname> is there an IRC command to see all the channels listing?
[03:28] <Grymmoire> HeGuru, using gconf-editor to reset all the configurations didn't fix the problem, the terminal still isn't being recognized as something that I should be able to alt-tab to or have in the launcher...
[03:29] <HeGuru> Grymmoire: that might not be due to gnome-terminal settings but due to window manager settings
[03:30] <Grymmoire> How do I change those?
[03:30] <Grymmoire> (Still new to ubuntu, just installed it the other day)
[03:30] <LinuxRules> Why does ubuntu restrict root , yet sets /home 755?
[03:30] <foxhoundz> Why is Linux so awesome?
[03:30] <HeGuru> Grymmoire: sorry can't help with that, could be a lot of things
[03:30] <LinuxRules> and alow sudo to be root?
[03:31] <anynickname> foxhoundz: because it's made by awesome people
[03:31] <Grymmoire> Does anyone here know how to change window manager settings
[03:31] <Grymmoire> HeGuru, well I know what started the problem
[03:31] <LinuxRules> I meant why is it insecure?
[03:32] <HeGuru> LinuxRules: whats wrong with /home 755? What makes you think that insecure?
[03:32] <Grymmoire> I put the terminal in the launcher by default but then took it out right after, and then I started having these issues with the terminal
[03:32] <LinuxRules> heguru do you know file permissions?
[03:32] <HeGuru> LinuxRules: yes I do
[03:32] <LinuxRules> so read access for anyone is good?
[03:33] <HeGuru> LinuxRules: you need r and x on directories to be able to enter the folders
[03:33] <LinuxRules> yea thats what 755 grants
[03:33] <Grymmoire> Hm
[03:34] <MrKeuner> reading a directory means reading the list of files and directories in it
[03:34] <anynickname> LinuxRules: you can have read access for all on /home, but your /home/username be accessible only to you, I believe
[03:34] <LinuxRules> read access on /home for groups and other is not secure
[03:35] <LinuxRules> I am meaning /home/*
[03:35] <MrKeuner> anynickname, each directory has its own read permissions
[03:35] <LinuxRules> 755 is not safe
[03:36] <LinuxRules> not exploitable but can give enough away to make it exploitable
[03:36] <MrKeuner> 755 for /home is not a problem, 755 for user's home is a problem
[03:36] <anynickname> MrKeuner: right, that's where I was getting at, so it can not be a big deal, depending how one has the rest of the system set up
[03:36] <Nate_> Quick question:
[03:36] <html> Grymmoire, Grymmoire> "Does anyone here know how to change window manager settings" FOR what ? 10.04 kubuntu ? lubuntu??
[03:36] <urlin2u> LinuxRules, this is a support channel nopt your personal opinion forum.
[03:36] <urlin2u> not
[03:37] <LinuxRules> mrkeuner thats what Im talking about and corrected /home with /home/*
[03:37] <Grymmoire> html, ubuntu, Unity
[03:37] <Nate_> Is there a way to dump the entire contents of my HDD onto a USB stick using the command line from GRUB?
[03:37] <sonanbulof> dd
[03:37] <Grymmoire> I think it's like 11.10
[03:37] <LinuxRules> urlin2u understood , was just bringing it up in the main place it could get seen
[03:37] <Grymmoire> The version of ubuntu that I'm using I mean
[03:38] <MrKeuner> however user's home directory must be readable for public_html to work
[03:38] <LinuxRules> mrkeuner on servers yeah but not desktops
[03:38] <Tony_> i can see the wireless networks bu i cant connect to them, any ideas
[03:38] <HeGuru> LinuxRules: agreed, and this has been mentioned ubuntu guides with instructions to change this behaviour (have user readable only home folders)
[03:38] <MrKeuner> LinuxRules, on desktops too if you ahve a webserver on the desktop
[03:40] <anynickname> 755 is rwxr-xr-x, right?
[03:40] <LinuxRules> mrkeuner wether apache or any servers are installed 755 is default on users /home
[03:40] <MrKeuner> anynickname, correct
[03:40] <anynickname> than OSX uses that same configuration
[03:40] <MrKeuner> anynickname, 4 for read 2 for write 1 for execute
[03:40] <MrKeuner> anynickname, it's posix convetion
[03:41] <anynickname> right, and it's owner,group,everyone, in that order, right?
[03:41] <MrKeuner> yes
[03:41] <anynickname> (haven't used linux, for a while)
[03:41] <almoxarife> someone care to share the default 'keyring' command line shown in their 'startup-apps' ? thnks
[03:41] <html> Grymmoire,  ohh so if i was asumming something else then  i would not be as much help since i know little ,from what litte details you told me.. mine 10.10 32bit ubuntu  2gb ram atom cpu... gmone
[03:41] <anynickname> what does rwxr-xr-x+ mean? (the plus sign)
[03:41] <LinuxRules> heguru yeah ubuntu is doing alot of good for Linux at the m just there slipping down the M$ ways of offering easy use at lack of security but then again theres no other way you either know how or you dont.
[03:41] <html> what was that channel op?
[03:42] <Nate_> (Reason: my netbook was running fine on Ubuntu, then it began freezing every time Ubuntu loaded.  I can get as far as the purple screen, but then it's stuck, even in recovery mode.)
[03:42] <Tony_> what is the diff between adhoc and infrastructure
[03:42] <hass> almoxarife: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11
[03:42] <LinuxRules> Linux isnt for noobs
[03:42] <sonanbulof> Really?
[03:43] <LinuxRules> by that I mean Linux wont be what it actually is if its catered for
[03:43] <Nate_> I have just a few files I need to grab from the HDD before I wipe it clean and reinstall.
[03:43] <Grymmoire> sorry html I didn't know I needed to give more details, let's see
[03:43] <almoxarife> hass: thanks
[03:44] <LinuxRules> Linux is for people who want to dive under there hood windows is for them who just want to use a computer
[03:44] <almoxarife> hass: nothing special about your setup is there? straight forward? i am trying to duplicate a vanilla setup
[03:44] <LinuxRules> Linux does free you from paying for a lesser OS though and its free
[03:44] <ejv> !offtopic | LinuxRules
[03:44] <sonanbulof> Yeah
[03:44] <anynickname> MrKeuner: do you know what the plus sign in rwxr-xr-x+ means?
[03:44] <hass> almoxarife: I fixed my Nautilus running as root issue.  I deleted /home/hill0703/.local/share/applications/userapp-gksu-RH19MV.desktop
[03:45] <Grymmoire> Ubuntu 11.10, running Unity, Memory 3.5GiB, Processor Intel® Core™ i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz × 4, OS type 64-bit
[03:45] <Grymmoire> I don't know what else to give
[03:45] <LinuxRules> and Ubuntu are taking over CentOs on server side too keep it up!
[03:45] <hass> almoxarife: Can't open Google Chrome now for some reason, but I'm sure a reinstall will fix it
[03:45] <almoxarife> !offtopic | LinuxRules
[03:45] <hass> almoxarife: thanks for looking at it
[03:45] <html> Grymmoire,  its in the newbie manual ,, just do it and ppl that need help, and someone that knows about it can , with out the mess and the 21questions ,,,
[03:46] <MrKeuner> anynickname, no
[03:46] <LinuxRules> hass you set /dev/shm read only
[03:46] <MrKeuner> anynickname, appears like related to ACL
[03:46] <sonanbulof> + means "add this"
[03:47] <LinuxRules> ?
[03:47] <hass> LinuxRules: you mean to fix chrome?
[03:48] <vassagus> hass try to run chrome from console, to see what is going on.
[03:48] <Nate_> Alternately, is there a USB-bootable program that would allow me to access the HDD and copy files to it, so I don't have to boot non-working Ubuntu?
[03:48] <ejv> anynickname: + causes the selected file mode bits to be added to the existing file mode bits of each file
[03:48] <hass> [3885:3894:754175093:FATAL:base/shared_memory_posix.cc(193)] Creating shared memory in /dev/shm/com.google.chrome.7BVJNT failed. This is frequently caused by incorrect permissions on /dev/shm.  Try 'sudo chmod 777 /dev/shm' to fix.: No such file or directory
[03:48] <hass> Aborted
[03:48] <LinuxRules> hass meant to say is your shared memory read only? (/dev/shm/) thats one thing that makes chrome fail but it wont be read only unless you modified fstab
[03:48] <hass> makes sense now
[03:48] <hass> i'll try chmod
[03:49] <IneedMyWow> ok getting more into my new ubuntu switch but i got some things to work out, how do i look at files in my comp more specifly the crossover files connected to c: or wow folder how do i look at that?
[03:49] <LinuxRules> chmod wont fix
[03:49] <IneedMyWow> i have 3 copies of wow on here and i need to delete two is theresome ubuntu equiv of explorer
[03:49] <ejv> IneedMyWow: nautilus
[03:50] <anynickname> ejv: could you elaborate, please? If it helps, I'm asking because I've noticed OSX's user folder has rwxr-xr-x+ permissions
[03:50] <LinuxRules> mount -o remount/rw /dev/shm might
[03:50] <furan> hi
[03:50] <ejv> anynickname: not really, the definition is the definition, might help to read the documentation pertaining to chmod
[03:50] <hass> LinuxRules: I changed the permissions and Chrome opened
[03:50] <sonanbulof> hi
[03:50] <vassagus> IneedMyWow, use nautilus
[03:50] <ejv> anynickname: 'man chmod'
[03:50] <LinuxRules> hass cool
[03:50] <haylo> chmod uses a 3 digit number
[03:50] <furan> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and I hate the interface, is there any way I can uninstall all this crap and get back the interface 10.04 gave me? I've already tried gnome-session-fallback but that's not even close.
[03:51] <anynickname> ejv: will see that, thanks
[03:51] <IneedMyWow> can someone quickly tell me how i can 'explore' my folders in ubuntu? i need to look at my wow folder
[03:51] <haylo> chmod 777 filename  for full permission
[03:51] <hass> LinuxRules: I do have a modified fstab file.  Will this happen again if I restart?
[03:51] <ejv> IneedMyWow: stop ignoring us, two people said to use Nautilus
[03:51] <acerimmer> IneedMyWow: Places > Wow Folder
[03:51] <IneedMyWow> is there some GUI windows computer explore equivelent
[03:51] <LinuxRules> hass what did you change it to though , nothing like 777?
[03:52] <vassagus> IneedMyWow, open your home folder, for instance
[03:52] <hass> LinuxRules: UUID=48c8edf9-f238-41d3-94a8-e9b6209cb488  /              ext4         defaults                                      0  1
[03:52] <hass> LinuxRules: That's the line from my fstab file
[03:52] <MrKeuner> IneedMyWow, is a bot friends...
[03:52] <vassagus> there you have nautilius
[03:52] <haylo> ls -l  lists file permissions
[03:52] <IneedMyWow> close vassagus but i need to get into the folder that crossover uses
[03:52] <LinuxRules> your fstab is fine
[03:52] <ejv> good thing i'm not an op, he'd be gone
[03:52] <IneedMyWow> nautilus under home
[03:52] <haylo> chmod xxx filename changes them
[03:53] <hass> LinuxRules: OK.  Thank you
[03:53] <LinuxRules> what was the xxx though it wast 777 was it?
[03:53] <vassagus> crossover map to a folder on the main system
[03:53] <haylo> no
[03:53] <haylo> it can be whatever number you want
[03:53] <LinuxRules> 777 would insecure your box
[03:53] <IneedMyWow> i have no idea what that means
[03:54] <haylo> yeah do 700 or 710 depending on what you want
[03:54] <vassagus> i mean, crossover use a folder that points to a real directory on linux
[03:54] <vassagus> just need to know where is it,
[03:54] <IneedMyWow> ok i cant find nautilus or the folder im hunting at all
[03:54] <IneedMyWow> i used to have a browse c folder
[03:55] <anynickname> ejv and MrKeuner, found it: via man page 'ls'. "If the file or directory has extended security information, the permissions field printed by the -l option is followed by a '+' character.". This generally means the file is encumbered with access restrictions outside of the traditional Unix permissions - likely Access Control List (ACL).
[03:55] <IneedMyWow> some wine thing i think
[03:55] <vassagus> try to use find
[03:55] <LinuxRules> ineedmywow open a terminal and type nautilus
[03:55] <IneedMyWow> k
[03:55] <ejv> IneedMyWow: stop being dense, the default gnome file manager *is* Nautilus, when you clicked on Places -> Location; it launched an instance of Nautilus
[03:55] <IneedMyWow> ok did that now where is my c: folder that crossover uses?
[03:56] <MrKeuner> IneedMyWow, you have to reboot into windows to see that
[03:56] <LinuxRules> c: folder thats win****
[03:56] <IneedMyWow> stop being dense? now thats not very useful ubuntu style love and help is it ya queer pants
[03:56] <acerimmer> ...and it begins
[03:56] <vassagus> IneedMyWow, i think that the folder is in /home/user/
[03:57] <xangua> IneedMyWow: then you sure know your virtual c directory is on .wine, to show .wine you need to press 'Control+h' on your home directory
[03:57] <ejv> since when did this become #crossover ...
[03:57]  * ejv sighs
[03:57] <IneedMyWow> im aware its windows but crossover access wow.exe on here where is that folder i need to edit the config file
[03:57] <vassagus> probably something like .wine or .crossover
[03:57] <LinuxRules> ask win**** support
[03:57] <vassagus> open a terminal, and use find
[03:57] <IneedMyWow> ok
[03:57] <haylo> just open the windows files from nautilus- mount the drive it doesnt matter if it says C on it
[03:58] <haylo> you will have more acess to the win files through nautilus than you have in windows probly lol
[03:58] <vassagus> IneedMyWow open a terminal and type this find / -name 'wow.exe' -print
[03:59] <hariom> what is the best tutorial/guide to understand build automation (Configure, build and install process). I am beginner and want to know how to put together my python pieces for deployment in automated fashion. I do have packages like Apache2 httpd, httplib2, lxml etc to compile and install. I am absolutely beginner when it comes to build system (new to build terms like target dist etc)
[03:59] <vassagus> that should return the path where the wow is store
[04:00] <LinuxRules> why are you guys supporting someone to find to run in wine?
[04:00] <IneedMyWow> and how do i use find
[04:00] <LinuxRules> when they eventually find it probbably wont run
[04:00] <IneedMyWow> cuz they are good people, unlike...
[04:00] <vassagus> IneedMyWow here is an example find / -name 'wow.exe' -print
[04:00] <sonanbulof> maybe locate
[04:00] <ejv> lol @ vassagus
[04:01] <ejv> IneedMyWow: man find
[04:01] <vassagus> lol :D
[04:01] <MrKeuner> IneedMyWow, I am amazed people still try to help you
[04:01] <IneedMyWow> why cant i just search for it in nautilus?
[04:01] <IneedMyWow> ok that got me a bunch of permission denied
[04:01] <doc-saintly> I was using the disk manager to check the health of my Raid 5 array and I mistakenly clicked the "check" button and now it is "rebuilding" the array even though there was nothing wrong with it
[04:01] <IneedMyWow> dont worry nobody has helped me with nada
[04:01] <doc-saintly> can I stop this safely somehow?
[04:02] <haylo> LinuxRules it is funny, but they are right thats the only place its called c
[04:02] <vassagus> IneedMyWow thats couse you are not root
[04:02] <LinuxRules> if they dont know how to find files in Linux god help ,them wityh getting all the dll's without errors pointing them to those dll
[04:02] <vassagus> IneedMyWow try to do a find in your home folder
[04:02] <IneedMyWow> i did that and still nothing, i know its in here
[04:02] <vassagus> find ./ -name 'wow.exe' -print
[04:02] <ejv> hariom: check out gentoo portage ebuilds, terrific example of automation
[04:03] <IneedMyWow> nope
[04:03] <MrKeuner> bye girls
[04:03] <xangua> (21:57:16) xangua: IneedMyWow: then you sure know your virtual c directory is on .wine, to show .wine you need to press 'Control+h' on your home directory
[04:03] <xangua> (21:57:35) vassagus: probably something like .wine or .crossover
[04:03] <sonanbulof> cd ~/.wine/c_drive/Program\ Files/Wow/
[04:03] <ejv> his partition with 'wow' may not be properly mounted, so no amount of find-ing will be sufficient
[04:04] <IneedMyWow> xangua...u rawk
[04:04] <IneedMyWow> control h thats all i needed
[04:04] <LinuxRules> Wine running things in wine is harder then before package managers and you had to go through compile after compile
[04:04] <IneedMyWow> sheesh guys put down yer weapons
[04:05] <IneedMyWow> dont worry tho ill be back fer moe
[04:05] <vassagus> last time i help a noob
[04:05] <IneedMyWow> yea cause everyone starts out pro right... elietest fool
[04:05] <LinuxRules> most dont work because you need the dll but the fails/errors never point to that
[04:06] <IneedMyWow> vassagus was born writing linux code
[04:06] <IneedMyWow> obv
[04:06] <jenia> hello everyone
[04:06] <sonanbulof> hi
[04:06] <jenia> when i run sshd, it does not seem to listen to port 22
[04:06] <ejv> IneedMyWow: I recommend as a beginner, you concentrate on a dual-boot configuration, ubuntu on one partition or disk, windows on the other; this is your best avenue.
[04:07] <hariom> ejv: Would you point to appropriate link you are mentioning. I am new to build automation therefore would need to understand how and why of things and terminology
[04:07] <sonanbulof> i recomend google
[04:07] <neildomo> How do you know it's not listening on port 22?
[04:07] <ejv> hariom: just google gentoo portage
[04:07] <jenia> for of all, the i try to connect with a client it says that the the connection was refured
[04:07] <vassagus> IneedMyWow, just saying, maybe you have to read a couple of books, before asking
[04:07] <jenia> first of all*
[04:07] <jenia> second, when i run fuser on the sshd process, it return nothing
[04:07] <LinuxRules> jenia if the service is started whats the output of netstat -ln | grep 22
[04:08] <jenia> one second
[04:08] <neildomo> jenia     ps -ef |grep sshd      do you get output?
[04:08] <ejv> hariom, freebsd's software policy is another good example of automation, unix brother to portage
[04:08] <jenia> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[04:08] <jenia> tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN
[04:08] <neildomo> jenia  firewall running?
[04:09] <LinuxRules> its listening then have you tried a restart?
[04:09] <neildomo> selinux enabled, but not configured for sshd?
[04:09] <jenia> how do i check if the firewall is running?
[04:10] <ejv> are you trying to ssh to your daemon as root, and you've denied root in your config?
[04:10] <neildomo> /sbin/iptables -L
[04:10] <LinuxRules> jenia you have physical access to it then or was that netstat from you PC?
[04:10] <jenia> its from my pc
[04:10] <LinuxRules> ok
[04:10] <jenia> i have physical access
[04:11] <sonanbulof>  hariom look here http://www3.fh-swf.de/fbin/roth/download/prg3.howto_autoconfmake.pdf
[04:11] <LinuxRules> jenia is this a dedicated or virtual server hosted some where else?
[04:11] <LinuxRules> ^^ seen what you posted
[04:11] <jenia> this is just my pc, and i want to be able to connect to it from elsewhere
[04:11] <LinuxRules> the failure will be at your router
[04:12] <LinuxRules> that will be blocking incoming (most of it any way)
[04:12] <LinuxRules> or are you connecting on LAN?
[04:12] <vassagus> are you testing from the internet, or LAN?
[04:13] <jenia> but i my router, i open port 22 for external and forwarded it to port 22 internal
[04:13] <jenia> wait, thats the problem.
[04:13] <jenia> from lan
[04:13] <jenia> the external port will be what? 80?
[04:14] <vassagus> whatever you want
[04:14] <LinuxRules> jenia what is it you need just ssh?
[04:14] <neildomo> To make things easy,  I'd use 22 on both sides.
[04:14] <hariom> sonanbulof: looking at it. Thanks
[04:14] <neildomo> Later you can change the Internet side to cut down on script kiddies.
[04:14] <jenia> yea, that what im using.
[04:14] <LinuxRules> always change default port if only to stop /var filling
[04:15] <neildomo> You have two computers on your lan?
[04:15] <LinuxRules> you will get pwnd
[04:15] <vassagus> are you forwading to your LAN ip?
[04:15] <jenia>  i want to start with ssh and see how it works. than ill use other program to transfer files over the la
[04:15] <LinuxRules> jenia does ssh respond calling from a local session?
[04:16] <LinuxRules> i.e ssh root@localhost
[04:16] <neildomo> LinuxRules   I was just going to suggest that!
[04:16] <vassagus> me 2, lol
[04:17] <jenia> yes it responded to a local session
[04:17] <neildomo> You can add  '-v'  to be verbose
[04:17] <LinuxRules> it usually fixes the prob 90%
[04:17] <vassagus> yes indeed
[04:17] <LinuxRules> sorry jenia its user error
[04:17] <neildomo> jenia   so sshd is responding, at least locally
[04:17] <LinuxRules> or your firewall
[04:18] <geoffmcc> jenia: i also use port 22, however you will get alot of hack attempts on your ssh, so i would suggest using something like fail2ban to protect your box
[04:18] <LinuxRules> sorry
[04:18] <jenia> can you tell me, how do i find out what my name is on the network? like whats the name of the computer?
[04:18] <vassagus> connect to your ip
[04:18] <LinuxRules> hostname
[04:18] <LinuxRules> whoami
[04:19] <vassagus> sometimes hostname dont resolve on lan
[04:19] <LinuxRules> hostname dont resolve its whats set on the server
[04:19] <vassagus> but i think that he is trying to conect to a pc that is locally on his lan
[04:20] <LinuxRules> will need to use IP then
[04:20] <jenia> okay i did hostname and it printed it
[04:20] <LinuxRules> hostname wont help
[04:20] <html> APU supported in the kernel Uubntu?
[04:20] <jenia> what is it then?
[04:20] <vassagus> jenia use /sbin/ifconfig to find the ip
[04:21] <vassagus> then connect using the IP not name
[04:21] <sonanbulof> cat /etc/hosts
[04:21] <overclucker> hostname will be useless from a remote system
[04:21] <LinuxRules> jenia well unless you know the IP of the box you want to connect6 to you will need to can the IP range of your network to find it
[04:22] <LinuxRules> *scan
[04:22] <overclucker> you can add the hostname to your hosts file
[04:22] <LinuxRules> not with out knowing the IP they cant!
[04:22] <geoffmcc> jenia: also if your trying to connect locally, i would suggest assigning a static ip to server if you havent
[04:23] <sonanbulof> nmap
[04:23] <michaelgamble> hey you guys familiar with libappindidcator?
[04:23] <Madgunner> guys
[04:23] <vassagus> maybe he is used to wins resolution
[04:23] <Madgunner> take a look at this
[04:23] <besogon> hello.
[04:24] <Madgunner> tell me what you think
[04:24] <Madgunner> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW1cLrjzBo
[04:24] <sonanbulof> nope, sorry
[04:24] <FloodBot1> Madgunner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <sonanbulof> hi
[04:24] <Madgunner> its about windows 8
[04:24] <h00k> Madgunner: this isn't the place
[04:24] <michaelgamble> i installed zentyal, and it looks like its a paired down version of ubuntu server running lxde
[04:24] <h00k> ubottu: ot | Madgunner
[04:24] <LinuxRules> nmap 192.168.0./24 -n -sn -sP will usually pick up servers on your network unless your IP range is different
[04:25] <vassagus> LinuxRules, thanks thats very usefull to me
[04:25] <besogon> My computer is in a domain. The problem is that I have to unblock SAMBA printer every day to print. Is it possible to unblock forever?
[04:26] <michaelgamble> my challenge is i compiled and installed an app the same way i have four times today on lubuntu and ubuntu.. but for some reason this flavour the app won't show up in the task bar and i think its cause they have some really crappy peered down task bar? is that possible? and if so is their a way to fix / upgrade the task bar?
[04:26] <sonanbulof> Madgunner i already boycott windows, don't need to boycot somthing that i dont use or maybe dead by itself
[04:26] <tellone> What does, basename: extra operand `3' mean?
[04:26] <vassagus> besogon you should log your box into the domain
[04:27] <sters> anyone know of a good chan to talk about dpkg?
 its because your using different desktops
[04:27] <michaelgamble> but i had it working on lxde from lubuntu
[04:27] <michaelgamble> this is also a variant of lxde
[04:27] <michaelgamble> it just seems to have a worse taskbar
[04:27] <chowder> michaelgamble: what is the name of the taskbar application you are using? As far as I know you need to write a .desktop file. These files are able to be read by menus that conform to the freedesktop standards. Basically .desktop file = nice menu icon. Also did you get any errors while you compiled the application?
[04:27] <michaelgamble> do i have any options?
[04:27] <vassagus> besogon you must configure samba to ldap configuration or ad, research about that
[04:28] <michaelgamble> no errors compiling the app
[04:28] <LinuxRules> theres no reason you cant ask about dpkg here
[04:28] <michaelgamble> everything looked gravy
[04:28] <michaelgamble> also the config wizard of the app worked as normal
[04:28] <sonanbulof> runtime error or warnings?
[04:28] <michaelgamble> nope
[04:29] <LinuxRules> it wont be the compiling it will be the differencies with desktops
[04:29] <michaelgamble> i think its running to be honest (my hunch) i just think this desktop isn't supporting displaying the icon in the taskbar
[04:29] <sonanbulof> srtange, maybe the taskbar is buggy (or uses other ways to handle windows list)
[04:29] <michaelgamble> is it hard to install a different desktop?
[04:29] <LinuxRules> thats what I was trying to tell ya :)
[04:29] <chowder> michaelgamble: what taskbar are you talking about? Unity? I'm still pretty sure that you need to write a .desktop file.
[04:30] <michaelgamble> i installed zentyal for easy fileshare management
[04:30] <mebigfatguy_> yup need a foo.desktop file
[04:30] <michaelgamble> so whats my best bet here
[04:30] <michaelgamble> repaire or replace?
[04:31] <LinuxRules> no installing a new desktop or installing anything isnt hard unless you dont know how to use bash
[04:31] <LinuxRules> new gui only ^^
[04:31] <michaelgamble> thats cool i got a pretty good hang of bash, and point me to the right tut from google and I'm a happy camper
[04:32] <besogon> vassagus: Now I'm working with user who is not participate in domain. BUt samba is tuned to log in to domain. I write  usermap file which has string (rak = VSCC/rak) where rak is my ubuntu user. hope it would be enough
[04:32] <michaelgamble> so needs a replace
 so what you running now?
[04:32] <chowder> michaelgamble: just write a .desktop file for your application. Its not that hard.
[04:32] <besogon> but it's not
[04:32] <michaelgamble> let me google how to do that :)
[04:32] <sonanbulof> yes google rules
[04:33] <LinuxRules> whats .desktop gonna fix he wants to change his desktop shell
[04:33] <besogon> vassagus: moreover samba is connected to the domain correctly. ubuntu doesn't remember my password for the printer
[04:33] <LinuxRules> i.e kde to gnome
[04:33] <besogon> :(
[04:34] <michaelgamble> :) conflicting perspectives huh
[04:34] <chowder> LinuxRules: well I mentioned it because he seemed to want to get an icon on his taskbar. Now about changing desktop shells that's a different topic.
[04:34] <nixnine> hey guys, how can i tell if my computer is bluetooth capable?
[04:35] <nivyaj> nixnine: check your reciept.
[04:35] <nixnine> ?
[04:35] <sonanbulof> nixnine read vendor specs manual
[04:36] <nivyaj> i just installed ubuntu  and am a noob. my screen is kind of glithy
[04:36] <nivyaj> glitchy-  what do i do?
[04:36] <phenom> Flash videos are playing back very choppy. Anyone have any ideas, or possible solutions?
 going bed but sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop && service *dm restart or stop then start in this instancce gnome gdm
[04:36] <sonanbulof> anyone with version control knowledge?
[04:36] <nivyaj> i guess i need to install some drivers- but i don't know how or where?
[04:36] <michaelgamble> my app uses libindicator
[04:36] <chowder> sonanbulof: I have a bit of experience with git, svn, and cvs.
[04:37] <vassagus> besogon can you create a user on AD, and added to the printer,
[04:37] <vassagus> and replicate that user on the box
[04:37] <nixnine> no way to check in terminal?
[04:38] <gh0strider> hello everyone, i have a usb gps device that has been assigned to /dev/ttyUSB0, and when i run gpsd i check the output by running "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" and it used to show me readable text with long/lat numbers, now it shows me just gibberish and non readable text, is there anyway to change it back so readable text?
[04:38] <sonanbulof> i never used any version control but i feel that i need for future crossplatform development only for myself, wich is the best(easy to mantain, and deploy) solution?
[04:38] <gh0strider> i really need some help changing it back, this is for a project for school and i am going to be in a heap of trouble if i can't figure this out...
[04:39] <sonanbulof> chowder?
[04:39] <vassagus> gh0strider maybe its the device config. Protocol maybe its on binary.
[04:39] <besogon> vassagus: no I'm participate in the domain but have no rules to change the domain... I'm reading in the Samba Official  web documents. Think I should ad something into my smb.conf
[04:40] <chowder> sonanbulof: sorry, multiple servers in my chat client
[04:40] <mebigfatguy_> sonanbulof, i'm partial git w/github
[04:40] <chowder> sonanbulof: I find that git is pretty good
[04:41] <chowder> sonanbulof: sourceforge uses git as its default. I was working on a network manager called QDnet but I'm not on the team anymore. I don't really have a preference for version control. I just use what's agreed upon.
[04:41] <sonanbulof> sorry for buggin you, git it's fine for only one coder?
[04:41] <mebigfatguy_> sonanbulof, sure
[04:41] <vassagus> besogon i was thinking about it. If you find a solution, i really appreciate if you share it.
[04:41] <mebigfatguy_> wouldn't be very good for multiple coders if it wasn't good for 1
[04:41] <gh0strider> vassagus: i am running gpsd with these options "gpsd /dev/ttyUSB0 -b -n" and for some reason it just started printing out gibberish when i do this command "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" and i really need to change it back it is so important to me...
[04:41] <sonanbulof> thanks, i look only for git
[04:42] <StepNjump> Anybody familiar with the /dev/dsp file in the pulseAudio server?
[04:42] <mebigfatguy_> sonanbulof, look at github.com while you are at it... really nice
[04:42] <chowder> sonanbulof: well any kind of version control can be used by just one person. Its a great way to keep your code and revisions organized.
[04:42] <vassagus> gh0strider you said, that your device was working normally earlier
[04:42] <besogon> vassagus: lpadmin command should help as they advice. gonna try it
[04:43] <gh0strider> vassagus: yes it just started printing this non readable text today, i am not sure what caused it...
[04:44] <vassagus> gh0strider have you tried to reset the device to factory defaults,
[04:44] <gh0strider> vassagus: i think it happened when i disconnected the usb gps device from my guest os (ubuntu vmware player) and then i connected it back to my guest linux os...
[04:45] <gh0strider> vassagus: how can i reset the gps devices back to its defaults...
[04:45] <gh0strider> ?
[04:45] <sonanbulof> i'm worried about changes in time and regresions from one platform to another (sorry for my english) and cant recover old versions code (i'm using OSX TimeMachine for that but i dont trust on it for this task)
[04:45] <dagerik> How can I grep a binary file for only ascii values? I only want to get words and sentences and such.
[04:45] <mebigfatguy_> dagerik, you are looking for specific words, or just looking for ascii of any form
[04:46] <dagerik> mebigfatguy_: Any form.
[04:46] <vassagus> gh0strider it depends of your device, did you tried to read from your host OS
[04:46] <gh0strider> i have a globalsat bu-353
[04:47] <sonanbulof> thanks chowder and mebigfatguy for the help i look for git
[04:48] <chowder> sonanbulof: any time and good luck
[04:49] <vassagus> gh0strider be aware that factory reset will clear custom configurations on your device,
[04:49] <sonanbulof> bye
[04:49] <gh0strider> i am really scared because my grade is depending on this project and i need to fix this issue and find out how to change it back to readable text...
[04:49] <dagerik> gh0strider: What is the problem?
[04:50] <gh0strider> vassagus: whatever it takes to get it so when i do "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" and have it print readable text...
[04:50] <vassagus> gh0strider tried to read from your host PC
[04:50] <maginot> howdy
[04:50] <gh0strider> when it was normal and i would do "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" my gps device would print this kind of output:
[04:50] <gh0strider> $GPGSV,3,61,12,18,68,010,42,21,65,066,36,22,51,270,367,06,45,295,39*7B
[04:50] <gh0strider> $GPGSV,3,62,162,03,33,3043,3441,15,340,048,32,14,232,192,31,29,18,159,27*77
[04:50] <FloodBot1> gh0strider: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <gh0strider> now it prints gibberish..
[04:51] <gh0strider> i tried setting different baudrates but it didn't help...
[04:51] <vassagus> gh0strider try from you host OS, to discard Vmware issues
[04:52] <gh0strider> i don't believe that it vmware issues...
[04:52] <vassagus> me either, but you have to try every posibility
[04:53] <gh0strider> my whole grade is depending on this project and i don't have time or money to order a new gps device =-(
[04:54] <maginot> gh0strider, whats your issue?
[04:54] <gh0strider> i feel so depressed...
[04:55] <gh0strider> maginot: i have a usb gps device, and i setup my gps device with gpsd and it was working great and now for some reason when i do "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" it prints gibberish, non readable text
[04:55] <gh0strider> wait i am going to try it with another linux distro...see if its a linux issue or a gps issue
[04:55] <dagerik> gh0strider: google how to debug usb devices
[04:55] <Oer> gh0strider, change your location :-)
[04:56] <maginot> first, are your sure its your device?
[04:56] <maginot> second it may be not human readable
[04:57] <maginot> use dmesg first
[04:57] <vassagus> gh0strider look the device's manual for factory defaults
[04:57] <gh0strider> dmesg is not going to tell me why its printing non readable text
[04:57] <gh0strider> i thought maybe it was a baudrate issue but i don't think so because my gps device is running at the right baud rate...
[04:57] <gh0strider> brb
[04:58] <maginot> of course not, but you must first guarantee that its your gps device
[04:58] <Oer> maybe GPS is down for the moment
[04:59] <maginot> if you are doing to do a cat on the device baudrate will not apply, actually cat will not work as a terminal reader
[05:00] <maginot> tail -f or od are recommended
[05:01] <maginot> *doing/going
[05:01] <haldoll> Hi everyone, I'm new to Ubuntu and I've figured out how to load stock applications, but if one has downloaded drivers from, say "creative" for linux, what is the best way to install the drivers?
[05:03] <maginot> usually you recompile the kernel with right support or download the modules and build'em
[05:03] <haldoll> maginot, could you be more specific
[05:03] <vassagus> gh0strider try to changed your device from binary to nmea ascii
[05:04] <haldoll> I'm sorry, new at this thing and don't know specifically what to do, sorry
[05:04] <vassagus> gh0strider gpsctl -f -n /dev/ttyUSB0
[05:04] <Oer> haldoll what drivers ? sound should work OOTB
[05:05] <haldoll> I'm just saying "creative" as the sound drivers as an example, but when I down load the drivers, I can "extract" them, but don't know how to get it into the operating system after that
[05:05] <haldoll> I try using the "sudo apt-get install" command, but this doesn't seem to work
[05:06] <maginot> okay, I had a little connection problem
[05:06] <maginot> who was talkingto me?
[05:06] <haldoll> Haldoll was
[05:06] <Oer> haldoll, what are you trying to install ?
[05:06] <maginot> haldoll, do you have the device model?
[05:07] <maginot> with that you can google for more information on the right driver
[05:07] <haldoll> "Xfi" drivers from creative
[05:07] <maginot> it may already exists in the kernel
[05:07] <socomm> Hey guys is there a Ubuntu/Debian equivalent of Redhat's KickStart?
[05:08] <maginot> haldoll, did this help ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=440866
[05:09] <haldoll> I'm looking at the link now, thanks
[05:09] <maginot> socomm, what is RedHat KickStart?
[05:09] <maginot> haldoll, maybe it give you some directions?
[05:11] <smw> socomm, preseed files
[05:11] <nitinab> i just installed tracker, but the indexing is not getting done, the tracker-store component is running, but nothing else.
[05:11] <nitinab> how can i force start it to start indexing
[05:12] <smw> socomm, the debian installer in the alternative install cd uses preseed files. They probably don't work with the live cd
[05:12] <haldoll> maginot, I found the link, and was able to download a driver (again), but what do I do when it gets to the Archive Manager, i.e. how do I then install it?
[05:13] <maginot> what is the link ?
[05:13] <maginot> haldoll, the file is .deb?
[05:13] <haldoll> It was in the section you gave me, but I have the drivers already.
[05:13] <haldoll> it is "tar.bz2:
[05:13] <maginot> haldoll, tar xf name_of_file.tar.bz2
[05:14] <nttuuser> hello
[05:14] <maginot> haldoll, cd folder_i_just_extracted/
[05:14] <michaelgamble> oh man.. looks like I'm installing all of ubuntu with all of the useless guy apps
[05:14] <michaelgamble> gui
[05:14] <haldoll> yeah  ...   oss-linux-v4.2-2005-i686.tar.bz2
[05:15] <maginot> haldoll, if its expected to be compiled so you will have to probably run configure && make && sudo make install
[05:15] <michaelgamble> i did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:15] <michaelgamble> I'm not even sure what its installing now :p
[05:15] <maginot> haldoll, but I suggest to search for some info/readme textfile inside first
[05:15] <maginot> oh, oss
[05:15] <maginot> oss is the coolest to compile ;)
[05:16] <multipass> anyone know of a FTP client that lets you edit files and upload on save automatically (checks for a save)?
[05:16] <haldoll> ok, that is probably what I needed to know, "configure && make && sudo make install"
[05:16] <maginot> haldoll, probably
[05:16] <socomm> smw: thanks
[05:17] <nitinab> i just installed tracker, but the indexing is not getting done, the tracker-store component is running, but nothing else. how can i start the indexing ?
[05:17] <haldoll> how do I know what directory it is in, or will it run from the default "home" director?
[05:17] <haldoll> Directory
[05:17] <scott951> questiom my mouse pad is to touchy with ubuntu is there a way to turn it off while typing?
[05:18] <maginot> haldoll, didnt you just downloaded from the website?
[05:18] <haldoll> yes
[05:18] <maginot> it will be there
[05:18] <maginot> where did you save it?
[05:18] <michaelgamble> holy smokes… i feel like apt-install ubuntu-desktop is installing every package under the sun
[05:18] <michaelgamble> geese .. going on 20 min now :p
[05:18] <firstlast> hello all
[05:18] <haldoll> simply / it was it says
[05:18] <maginot> michaelgamble, did you had a server install before? Why are you doing that anyway
[05:19] <michaelgamble> stupid mac autocorrect built into the OS now
[05:19] <haldoll> sorry, I don't mean to be dumb, but I'm really knew at this....
[05:19] <firstlast> just upgraded to 11.10 and I wish to change the default driver form radeon to fglrx to use all 3 of my monitors
[05:19] <michaelgamble> yeah installed zentyal for the filesharing management
[05:19] <firstlast> been trying a variety of things, but X simply won't start
[05:19] <maginot> haldoll, what you mean about / ? did you save in the root of the system or under some folder in you home folder?
[05:19] <firstlast> how do i replace the default radeon driver with fglrx?
[05:19] <michaelgamble> which ran lxde but not properly configured to run an app that i wanted
[05:19] <haylo> firstlast did you install fglrx through "additional drivers"
[05:19] <maginot> haldoll, did you downloaded this file with firefox or what?
[05:20] <gh0strider> okay so when i went on my other linux distro and did "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" it printed gibberish, non readable text which means that it is an issue with my gps device, so does anyone here have any idea on how i can change my gps device to its default settings in linux?
[05:20] <michaelgamble> so i want the server but a different desktop
[05:20] <haldoll> yes, firefox
[05:20] <gh0strider> or will i have to do this in windows?
[05:20] <nitinab> scott951: you can either use the fn-button combo that comes on most keyboards, it must be a key with touchpad crossed out, or you can go change your settings in the System Settings>Mouse and Touchpad settings
[05:20] <haldoll> then it asked if I wanted to open it with the archive manager and I said yes.
[05:20] <gh0strider> i really need some help on this...like i said my grade depends on this...
[05:20] <maginot> haldoll, so? isnt there "Save as ?" option so you can save it under you desktop or in the Downloads folder (I think its this the default option)
[05:20] <gh0strider> my entire grade...
[05:20] <maginot> ok
[05:21] <maginot> you said yes, and extracted the files to some place
[05:21] <scott951> nitinab: thanks
[05:22] <maginot> haldoll, I would do everything from command line
[05:22] <maginot> actually you will need it
[05:22] <haldoll> I did, say download section, but then how do I install it?
[05:22] <maginot> if you give me  the path where for the file will be much easier to help you
[05:23] <gh0strider> anyone have any ideas on how to restore a usb gps to default settings?
[05:23] <gh0strider> if i can't figure this out i am in big trouble...
[05:23] <firstlast> anyone? :(
[05:23] <haldoll> well, when I look for it in "DASH" it is in the downloads section
[05:23] <haylo> gh0strider, i can tell you that the device should just be a file to linux. do ls -la in the directory that contains your device. and search for the related config files in nautilus perhaps you could get rid of the stuff that is interfering with your "default settings"
[05:24] <pangolin> gh0strider: if you have the option of doing it in Windows that is what you should do to not compromise your grade. figure out later what the problem is and try to get it fixed.
[05:24] <maginot> haldoll, do me a favor would ya
[05:24] <maginot> haldoll, open the gnome-terminal
[05:24] <maginot> haldoll, like alt+f2 and type gnome-terminal and hit enter
[05:24] <haylo> yes i have virtualbox installed in case i need windows for class gh0strider
[05:25] <haldoll> there
[05:25] <maginot> haldoll, ok, no what is the name of the file you said before?
[05:25] <haylo> did you get your thorzine haldol?
[05:26] <haldoll> it is in a subdirectory called "xfidrv_linux_public_us_1.00
[05:26] <haldoll> it is in the downloads subdirectly when I look for it in DASH
[05:26] <maginot> haldoll, type in the console:  find ~ | grep xfidrv
[05:26] <gh0strider> i don't know what to do and i am freaking out...
[05:26] <maginot> haldoll, pastebin the results
[05:26] <maginot> !pastebin
[05:27] <gh0strider> i don't know how to reset back to its default state (my gps device)
[05:27] <maginot> gh0strider, I tried to help you, but since you are freaking out you didnt listened anything
[05:27] <haylo> did you search for "gps" in nautilus under file system gh0strider ?
[05:28] <pangolin> gh0strider: setting it back to default would be done in the devices settings menu
[05:28] <haylo> lol yeah you make a great claim for help but dont seem to be trying anything
[05:28] <nitinab> i just installed tracker, but the indexing is not getting done, the tracker-store component is running, but nothing else. how can i start the indexing ?
[05:28] <haldoll> I did, and it just gave me "no results" and went back to the origin again
[05:28] <haldoll> sorry
[05:28] <gh0strider> the gps goes to /dev/ttyUSB0 and there is nothing to list its not a directory...
[05:28] <haldoll> I'm really trying
[05:28] <wingless2434> I've Googled about GVFS, but haven't found much useful info.  In one sentence, can someone sum up why I, a normal desktop end-user, would want GVFS on my system?  as far as I can tell it only exists to frustrate commands that fail to read it
[05:28] <maginot> haldoll, not exactly? are you logged as root??
[05:28] <gh0strider> haylo: i have tried many things
[05:28] <gh0strider> many things
[05:29] <haylo> ok what is the utility or app that controls the device?
[05:29] <maginot> gh0strider, you tried many things wrong. What you want to do, read the output? proccess it? Use some application?
[05:29] <haldoll> I think so as it lists my name as "haldoll@haldoll:~s
[05:30] <wingless2434> case in point: the .gvfs file in my home directory: wtf is it and why should i want it?
[05:30] <nitinab> wingless2434: why do you need gvfs for ?
[05:30] <almoxarife> wingless2434: you would use gvfs if you kept a mirror of a remote drive locally, .gvfs would be the place where it sat
[05:30] <maginot> haldoll, do this instead:  find ~ | grep oss
[05:30] <wingless2434> almoxarife, nitinab, is it some kind of network file system protocol?
[05:30] <haldoll> k give me a sec
[05:31] <almoxarife> wingless2434: long story short, you cant get rid of it, nautilus depends on it,
[05:31] <haldoll> it gave me the following response....  /home/haldoll/.cache/software-center/icons/sc-agent-crossover-pro.png
[05:31] <haldoll> /home/haldoll/.cache/software-center/icons/sc-agent-crossover-standard.png
[05:31] <haldoll> /home/haldoll/.cache/software-center/icons/sc-agent-crossover-games.png
[05:31] <nitinab> yes wingless2434 ... when you connect to anything like sftp, ftp, or smb, a its mounted under .gvfs
[05:32] <maginot> haldoll, use pastebin, and Im looking for the path to the oss file you downloaded earlier
[05:32] <gh0strider> i am trying to see how to reset this usb gps device back to its original factory settings but i can't find a good link with instructions on how to reset a bu-353 gps device
[05:32] <maginot> !pastebin
[05:32] <wingless2434> almoxarife, nitinab: I suppose that's useful.  But why is it integral to GNOME?  Seems really weird to be integrated into the GUI layer...
[05:32] <maginot> gh0strider, do you have its model?
[05:32] <haldoll> not sure what "pastebin" is, sorry
[05:32] <maginot> !pastebin
[05:33] <almoxarife> wingless2434: if you can pull nautilus from gnome you wont have gvfs anymore, you wont have nautilus either
[05:33] <nitinab> wingless2434: some later programs need it , or depend on it . so just ignore it
[05:33] <haldoll> pastebin: command not found
[05:33] <haylo> pastebin is a thing you learn to use real quick on irc
[05:33] <haylo> look it up it is self expanatory
[05:33] <almoxarife> wingless2434: why the fixation on gvfs?
[05:33] <nitinab> lol @haldoll
[05:33] <wingless2434> can you use this GVFS stuff without using nautilus...? e.g. if i were to log into my machine remotely via ssh and didn't start up a windows session
[05:33] <maginot> haldoll, pastebin is a site, where you post the text, like you can post many lines >> paste.ubuntu.com
[05:33] <almoxarife> wingless2434: yes
[05:33] <haylo> pastebin is a website
[05:34] <maginot> haldoll, hey, I have a way better ideia
[05:34] <haldoll> got it sorry, like I said i'm new to this
[05:34] <maginot> haldoll, go to the gnome-terminal
[05:34] <haldoll> k
[05:34] <haldoll> there
[05:34] <wingless2434> almoxarife, it's just puzzled me and i haven't been able to understand it from preliminary googling.  where can i find more info on the topic?
[05:34] <maginot> haldoll, type: mkdir A && cd A
[05:35] <wingless2434> almoxarife, I don't undersatnd why something like GVFS would be wanted if we already have NFS
[05:35] <CyFus> can anyone tell me where menu applets are stored?
[05:35] <haylo> they are stored all over the place i think
[05:35] <haldoll> done
[05:35] <maginot> haldoll, what is the link from the file you downloaded?
[05:35] <almoxarife> wingless2434: you are looking at gvfs with out a 'use' for it, you got a networked house? more than one pc ?
[05:36] <haylo> if you look at the properties you can see the file path to their execution command
[05:36] <CyFus> i cant find the one for sound control
[05:36] <haldoll> I have to back track on creative's website, give me a sec
[05:36] <haylo> you might need to add an applet outside of the unity enviornment
[05:37] <CyFus> im running 10.10
[05:37] <maginot> haldoll, ok, do that its important.
[05:38] <haldoll> http://support.creative.com/Downloads/welcome.aspx
[05:38] <haylo> right click and add applet- there will be an option to add just the thing you want
[05:38] <haldoll> bottom is the linux link
[05:38] <CyFus> haylo yeah i did that but its missing from the menu :/
[05:39] <haylo> youll find it you are on the right track
[05:39] <haylo> night guys haylo out
[05:40] <wingless2434> almoxarife, sorry, important phone call came in.  I'm on a one PC home system, so I have no need to network stuff right now.
[05:41] <wingless2434> almoxarife, I think that's probably teh issue - i don't have the problems it's trying to fix, but i'm still curious
[05:41] <FluxD> Hi, what is the easiest way to start a pure compiz session without unity launcher, I dont want to use gnome fallback or gnome 3.
[05:42] <almoxarife> wingless2434: have a network outside the home you want to connect to?
[05:42] <nitinab> how can i force start it to start indexing
[05:43] <pangolin> nitinab: start what?
[05:43] <wingless2434> almoxarife, i don't, no
[05:44] <almoxarife> wingless2434: stop fixating?
[05:44] <guest829385> Greetings! I bought and installed ddr3 204 pin ram in a netbook. It won't boot, and it's failing as if there were no ram in there at all. There's no further comaptability issue, right? Since it fits the socket, ddr3 204 pin should work yes?
[05:44] <wingless2434> almoxarife, probably the best solution for now.  i'll revisit it later if i need to.  thanks!
[05:44] <nitinab> the tracker daemon that does the actual indexing pangolin
[05:45] <pangolin> nitinab: sudo updatedb
[05:46] <nitinab> pangolin: we aren't talking about the updatedb-locate combo but the tracker-search tool
[05:47] <almoxarife> nitinab: you should have three processes associated with tracker running, all of them user processess
[05:47] <pangolin> nitinab: try man tracker
[05:48] <almoxarife> nitinab: look at system monitor
[05:48] <nitinab> i did that pangolin , it says the indexing tool tracker-miner-fs should be started at login automatically
[05:48] <pangolin> probably is. install tracker-gui
[05:48] <nitinab> but all i have in the process list is tracker-store... which is the hub to serve queries but not the indexer
[05:49] <almoxarife> nitinab: you should have three processes associated with tracker running, all of them user processess
[05:49] <almoxarife> nitinab: how did you install 'tracker'?
[05:49] <nitinab> just one is running ... the tracker-store, the gui is needle, which gives up no results when run
[05:50] <vagothcpp> on the 11.10 amd64 there is no xorg.conf, has the location moved?
[05:50] <nitinab> "apt-get install tracker tracker-gui"
[05:50] <SwedeMike> vagothcpp: nope, but if there is no special config, there is no xorg.conf. sane defaults.
[05:50] <lisa_> k
[05:50] <almoxarife> nitinab: you need the 'tracker' package
[05:50] <nitinab> so i dont think i have any componentss missing almoxarife
[05:50] <almoxarife> nitinab: you need the 'tracker' package
[05:51] <nitinab> i did that almoxarife already ... the packages are available, i can get the ui and preferences page. just not the indexer
[05:52] <almoxarife> nitinab: install the 'tracker' <-- one word, package
[05:53] <nitinab> ok done that almoxarife : says "tracker is already the newest version."
[05:53] <almoxarife> nitinab: log out, and return
[05:53] <IcemanV9> vagothcpp, there isn't one
[05:54] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9, so far that is what I have found to be true, however my nvidia driver is giving me an absolute headache atm
[05:54] <nitinab> did that almoxarife ... no indexer ...
[05:54] <gh0strider> i don't see how in windows i can reset my bu-353 gps device back to its default settings...
[05:55] <IcemanV9> vagothcpp, to fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[05:55] <gh0strider> i am so screwed...
[05:55] <gh0strider> i am going to fail my project and thats not good....
[05:55] <almoxarife> nitinab: in terminal                 tracker-preferences
[05:55] <gh0strider> oh man i am so stressed...
[05:55] <IcemanV9> vagothcpp, plus i do not know anything about nvidia driver
[05:55] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9, I keep receiving a message along the lines of "THe nvidia driver is currently not in use"
[05:55] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9, ahk
[05:55] <almoxarife> gh0strider: is it a hardware gps unit, the kind you connect via usb?
[05:55] <pangolin> gh0strider: stop wasting your time and ours please. Do your project in windows and worry about fixing getting the device working in linux later.
[05:56] <JBunny> Hi everyone. just installed drivers for my NVidia card and the resolution is stuck at 640x480. Any ideas?
[05:56] <nitinab> almoxarife: that brings up the preferences dialog, there are folders set to be indexed, i even tried setting it to index always, even when there are other programs running .. no effect
[05:57] <gh0strider> has anyone here ever had to reset a usb gps device to its default settings?
[05:57] <vagothcpp> JBunny, it was just said to me: to fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[05:57] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9^^
[05:57] <almoxarife> nitinab: find the logs at ~/local/tracker i think thats the place, see whats up
[05:58] <IcemanV9> vagothcpp,  it may help if you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[05:58] <nitinab> hold on minute almoxarife
[05:59] <almoxarife> gh0strider: there is no config, there is nothing to return to default, those rom units spit out garmin protocol nmea and thats it
[06:00] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9, I think the main problem is that I have 2 graphics cards, 1 internal (and not able to disable), and an nvidia 520mx, on windows, a program can be set to use either, not sure how this is going to work for ubuntu
[06:00] <JBunny> almoxarife: what was that command you had me enter the other day that let me know what my VGA adapter was ie VGA0 or 1?
[06:01] <almoxarife> JBunny: not sure, you sure i gave it to you?
[06:02] <nitinab> almoxarife: the path is .local/share/tracker and the logs are for tracker-store (empty) and tracker-needle (with previous search terms)
[06:02] <JBunny> almoxarife: pretty sure. it gave me a big list of things including my monitor.
[06:03] <almoxarife> JBunny: xorg.0.log?
[06:03] <almoxarife> nitinab: i dont think the install worked, you use synaptic?
[06:03] <prince_jammys> JBunny: maybe xrandr.
[06:04] <almoxarife> JBunny: that was not me
[06:04] <Pascoal> !seen fooka
[06:04] <nitinab> i can use all of them , apt-get was how i installed it ... purge and then a reinstall should help?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> vagothcpp, ah. not sure about that one. i believe it needs to be disabled in order for ubuntu to see nvidia.
[06:04] <JBunny> almoxarife: really? sorry, you and JStrong were helping me at the same time, maybe it was him.
[06:05] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9, which is not possible, Ubuntu can see the nvidia, just X is unable to take advantage of it since I cannot find where to change the driver used
[06:05] <almoxarife> nitinab: use synatpic, search for tracker, there should be at least three apps installed, needle i believe makes it four
[06:05] <nitinab> let me do that almoxarife
[06:05] <vagothcpp> i am about to attempt the manual install over the apt install and see if i get anywhere
[06:05] <IcemanV9> vagothcpp, any good from wiki? perhaps xrandr may help?
[06:06] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9, possibly, I am looking into it
[06:06] <cpgo> where am I supposed to put a script to run at either login or startup
[06:06] <JBunny> I cant get mydisplay above 640x480. xrandr is saying that is the max. any ideas? I just installed the nvidia driver.
[06:06] <cpgo> I tied ~/.bash_login but that didnt work
[06:07] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9, if i pull the recommended settings from nvidia-xconfig and use xrandr to set them perhaps
[06:08] <prince_jammys> cpgo: do you have a file ~/.profile ? if so, there.
[06:08] <cpgo> prince_jammys, ok
[06:08] <cpgo> thanks
[06:08] <IcemanV9> vagothcpp, i do not know as i never play with nvidia card
[06:09] <vagothcpp> IcemanV9, sorry, speaking my ideas through my hands
[06:09] <IcemanV9> it might work though
[06:09] <prince_jammys> cpgo: depends on how you log in. try .profile
[06:09] <prince_jammys> i think that's sourced by gnome on login.
[06:11] <almoxarife> JBunny: what package did you install for the nvidia?
[06:12] <gh0strider> man i am so fucked...
[06:12] <gh0strider> when it rains it fucking pours..
[06:12] <almoxarife> gh0strider: watch your mouth
[06:12] <pangolin> !language | gh0strider
[06:13] <JBunny> almoxarife: the Nvidia accelerated graphics driver version 173 from Additional Drivers in System Settings.
[06:14] <almoxarife> JBunny: i mean initially, to get the drivers on the pc?
[06:15] <pawan_tejwani> how to install ubuntu-deskop on ubuntu-server-11.10 using ubuntu-desktop-11.10 cdrom ?
[06:15] <almoxarife> JBunny: is the package 'nvidia-current' installed?
[06:15] <cpgo> prince_jammys, that didnt work. do I need /bin/bash _then_my_script ?
[06:15] <JBunny> almoxarife: idk. how do i check?
[06:15] <prince_jammys> cpgo: how do you log in? through a gui?
[06:16] <cpgo> yea prince_jammys
[06:16] <cpgo> ubuntu 11.10
[06:17] <prince_jammys> cpgo: is your script in a directory in your PATH? how did you invoke your script?
[06:17] <cpgo> just /full/path/to/script at the end of .profile
[06:17] <prince_jammys> and it didn't run?
[06:17] <cpgo> no
[06:17] <almoxarife> JBunny: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current <-- what is the response to that?
[06:18] <prince_jammys> cpgo: that's curious. do you have a file called ~/.bash_profile ?
[06:18] <JBunny> almoxarife: it is installing.
[06:19] <xtgyal> Hello how can I transfer files to and from an MP3 player plugged in via USB?  Rhythmbox can read the files, but I cannot find the player in the file explorer.  I'd like to copy the files on it to my hard drive and then transfer new files to the device.
[06:19] <cpgo> prince_jammys, no, theres history, login (which I created), logout and rc
[06:19] <cpgo> prefixed bash_
[06:19] <prince_jammys> cpgo: donput something like '' echo Hello > ~/test_file ''  at the end of .profile, log in and out, and see if the test file is created.
[06:19] <carolos> I'm trying to run sudo update-grub after editiing etc/default/grub in ubuntu oneiric running from the live cd. I get: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for  / (is /dev mounted?)
[06:19] <almoxarife> JBunny: you clobbered your setting though with all that xrand stuff, i think
[06:19] <prince_jammys> cpgo: err, don't create .bash_profile and remove .bash_login that you created. Try what i said with .profile.
[06:20] <xtgyal> I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx
[06:20] <JBunny> almoxarife: what do you mean?
[06:20] <prince_jammys> cpgo: 'donput' was a typo. I meant 'put'
[06:20] <almoxarife> JBunny: i mean all that xrand stuff is for the birds
[06:20] <prince_jammys> cpgo: if the test file is created, the issue is with your prog.
[06:21] <almoxarife> JBunny: you will need to reboot after the install completes
[06:21] <cpgo> prince_jammys, well I have other stuff in .profile that work. I export a var and I see that its set. Im going to do that file creating in my script and see if the script itself is being called and what I have it doing in there is failing
[06:21] <prince_jammys> cpgo: sounds like the issue is with your script, then.
[06:21] <JBunny> almoxarife: alright. I should be able to change the resolution then right?
[06:22] <almoxarife> JBunny: maybe, reboot!
[06:22] <JBunny> almoxarife: I will in 2 minutes when it finishes
[06:23] <xtgyal> MP3?
[06:23] <almoxarife> JBunny: later you need to add the ppa that keeps nvidia-current, real current, but that is later
[06:24] <xtgyal> anyone?
[06:25] <prince_jammys> xtgyal: you probably need to write something more than 'MP3?' to get an answer.
[06:25] <xtgyal> I did, "Hello how can I transfer files to and from an MP3 player plugged in via USB?  Rhythmbox can read the files, but I cannot find the player in the file explorer.  I'd like to copy the files on it to my hard drive and then transfer new files to the device.'
[06:25] <almoxarife> xtgyal: did you look in /media?
[06:25] <xtgyal> yes
[06:26] <xxx> almoxarife: hey again ... a purge , reinstall , log out and log in later i am back where i started, no indexer
[06:26] <Morpheme> probably it use mfs
[06:26] <carolos> hello, I'm trying to run update-grub after reinstalling windows on a dual boot. i get and error "cannon find a device for /"
[06:26] <xtgyal> it's a SanDisk Sansa
[06:26] <xtgyal> maybe 2006 or so
[06:27] <almoxarife> xxx: what processes are running?
[06:27] <xtgyal> Rhythmbox is playing
[06:27] <Morpheme> xtgyal, *mtp
[06:27] <xtgyal> mtp?
[06:27] <xxx> 'ps -e | grep tracker' gives nothing
[06:27] <Morpheme> xtgyal, media transfer protocol
[06:27] <almoxarife> xtgyal: your player sees the files?
[06:28] <xtgyal> yes Rhythbox can read the files
[06:28] <cpgo> prince_jammys, looks like I had to replace a sudo with a gksu
[06:28] <xtgyal> it can list the memory usage too under Properties
[06:28] <Morpheme> xtgyal, mtpfs                                                   - FUSE filesystem for Media Transfer Protocol devices
[06:28] <almoxarife> xtgyal: so you know where they are located locally
[06:28] <xtgyal> no?
[06:28] <xtgyal> it just says device name Sansa
[06:28] <xtgyal> doesn't give a location
[06:29] <prince_jammys> cpgo: you should wrap your code in :  if [[ $DISPLAY ]]; then .... ; fi   # for when you happen to log in outside of X (say through ssh)
[06:29] <xtgyal> its plugged into the USB port
[06:29] <almoxarife> xtgyal: the app must show a location for the file being played
[06:29] <Morpheme> couse it use mtpfs damn
[06:29] <xtgyal> what s mptfs?
[06:29] <Morpheme> try to install mtpfs and then: mtpfs /mnt for mount mp3
[06:29] <prince_jammys> cpgo: or maybe use gnome's startup directory for scripts, if you run gnome.
[06:29] <busybyeski> just use mass storage and it should be sda?
[06:29] <prince_jammys> !startup | cpgo
[06:29] <faux_sho> xtgyal: maybe you could try searching for one of the song names in nautilus.
[06:30] <Morpheme> xtgyal, search it on aptitude
[06:30] <xtgyal> I have to install mtpfs in order for Nautilus to see the files?
[06:30] <almoxarife> Morpheme: he can hear the music from the mp3 player on his system, he must have access to the thing to do all that
[06:30] <Morpheme> almoxarife, rhytmbox has mtp as a feature
[06:31] <xtgyal> she :-&
[06:31] <xtgyal> yeah the files play fine on Rhythmbox
[06:31] <xtgyal> is there a way to transfer them in the player perhaps?
[06:31] <Morpheme> xtgyal, sudo aptitude install mtpfs & mtpfs /mnt & ls /mnt (try please)
[06:32] <xtgyal> what is mtpfs?
[06:32] <Morpheme> ops
[06:32] <Morpheme> *&&
[06:32] <prince_jammys> !info mtpfs
[06:32] <Morpheme> OMG, search it on aptitude/google
[06:32] <gh0strider> holy shit man i am so freaking depressed...
[06:32] <pawan_tejwani> can anyone tell me how do I install ubuntu-desktop from ubuntu-desktop-11.10-x64 cd on ubuntu-server-11.10-x64 ?
[06:32] <xtgyal> yes I
[06:32] <gh0strider> i can not fix this and my grade depends on it...
[06:32] <xtgyal> I
[06:33] <Morpheme> gh0strider, :*
[06:33] <xtgyal> I'm on Ubuntu Software Center, just a sec, gonna install
[06:33] <Morpheme> xtgyal, nice
[06:33] <aeden> Is there a way to force telling my nvidia graphics driver how much vram I have? It thinks I have MORE than my card actually does (GeForge Go 6400) and as a result I'm seeing some weird corrupted graphics
[06:34] <xtgyal> installing
[06:34] <pawan_tejwani> it's heavy download if I install it from internet... but from cdrom I am getting some error
[06:34] <pawan_tejwani> *errors
[06:34] <sivik> I added some repos via ppa and when I run sudo apt-get update, they get ignored.  How do I figure out why they are being ignored?
[06:35] <Morpheme> "Nautilus has MTP support with gphoto2:// URIs."
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> sivik: how did you add the ppa?
[06:35] <xtgyal> its installed
[06:35] <sivik> ActionParsnip, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name with that command but with the right user and ppa name
[06:35] <sivik> and then it added the key
[06:35] <xtgyal> I don't see it in Nautilus though
[06:35] <Morpheme> "Rhythmbox has MTP support through libmtp."
[06:36] <xtgyal> libmtp?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> sivik: sweet sounds good. We assume the ppa also supports your release
[06:36] <sivik> ActionParsnip, Yes.
[06:36] <sivik> ActionParsnip, I even got it to tell me the speific stuff for 11.10
[06:37] <xtgyal> it says it is installed already
[06:37] <Morpheme> xtgyal, open a terminal: sudo mtpfs /mnt  (or where you want)
[06:37] <Morpheme> or without sudo, if your user is in 'fuse' group
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> sivik: then: apt-cache policy packagename   should show the ppa (change packagename for one from the ppa)
[06:37] <xtgyal> "Portable Players - MTP" is installed on the Rhythmbox plugins
[06:37] <sivik> ActionParsnip, when I run apt-get update, it ign the repo
[06:37] <Morpheme> xtgyal, ;D
[06:38] <xtgyal> ok what does /mnt do?
[06:38] <xtgyal> mounts the MP3 player?
[06:38] <sivik> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/Ag5bJz8G
[06:38] <Morpheme> no, mtpfs mount the MP3 player, "/mnt" is the mountpoint
[06:38] <prince_jammys> xtgyal: /mnt is an example mount point, a directory where the files will get mounted.
[06:38] <xtgyal> ok I just did it
[06:38] <Calinou> sivik: have you correctly entered the right key?
[06:38] <xtgyal> looks like nothing happened?
[06:39] <Calinou> you can add key by hand, this may be needed
[06:39] <Morpheme> now, let's open in Nautilus: /mnt
[06:39] <prince_jammys> go to /mnt and see what's there.
[06:39] <xtgyal> yes it says I don't have permission
[06:39] <gh0strider> does anyone know how to reset the bu-353 back to its default settings?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> xtgyal: its a folder you can use to mount stuff, either the folder itself or manually created subfolders
[06:39] <Morpheme> uhm
[06:39] <carolos> can somebody help me with restoring grub in ubuntu oneiric?
[06:39] <xtgyal> should I do gksudo nautilus?
[06:39] <Morpheme> xtgyal, in terminal: ls /mnt
[06:39] <xtgyal> ok
[06:40] <xtgyal> cannot access, permission denied
[06:40] <xtgyal> for ls /mnt
[06:40] <njathan> I referred 'Method 3' in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent , but while booting through USB, i get the error - "isolinux.bin is missing or corrupt" . Any ideas?
[06:40] <Morpheme> with sudo sorry
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> sivik: have you contacted the ppa maintainer?
[06:40] <Morpheme> if you see your MP3 folder / music we can go on
[06:40] <xtgyal> its doing something
[06:40] <ok_wait> carolos, copy the output of 'sudo grub-mkconfig' to your /boot/grub/grub.cfg file
[06:40] <xtgyal> hopefully not trying to list 4 gigabytes of files...
[06:41] <Morpheme> with 'sudo ls /mnt'?? :x
[06:41] <carolos> ok_wait I'm using sudo update-grub
[06:41] <xtgyal> yes its still working
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> carolos: omgubuntu has a how to on reinstating grub using a chroot from live usb or cx
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Cd
[06:41] <xtgyal> I did "sudo ls /mnt"
[06:41] <xtgyal> nothing is happening, but it hasn't opened up a new line in Terminal
[06:42] <Morpheme> uhm
[06:42] <Morpheme> maybe you need to close rhytmbox
[06:42] <xtgyal> hm ok
[06:42] <sivik> ActionParsnip, weird thing is, thats not the only repository igned
[06:42] <xtgyal> oh ok
[06:42] <Morpheme> xtgyal, what?
[06:42] <xtgyal> software caused connection abort
[06:42] <sivik> ActionParsnip, dl.google.com is being ign as well
[06:42] <xtgyal> I'm in
[06:42] <xtgyal> it opened in Nautilus
[06:43] <Morpheme> and??
[06:43] <Morpheme> !
[06:43] <Morpheme> :)
[06:43] <xtgyal> media / Sansa m260
[06:43] <sivik> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/Pk2zb9q5
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> sivik: you added it correctly, you should see an aptly (pun intended) named file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:43] <xtgyal> yeah cool thanx! :-)
[06:43] <carolos> ok_wait "sudo grub-mkconfig" gives the same error message as "sudo update-grub" the error is "cannot find device for /"
[06:43] <_NeshaD_> !seen hah
[06:43] <xtgyal> hm maybe not
[06:44] <sivik> ActionParsnip, yes, its there
[06:44] <sivik> ActionParsnip, so why is it being ign?
[06:44] <Morpheme> xtgyal, ??
[06:44] <sivik> along with other ones
[06:44] <xtgyal> it doesn't display any of the MP3 files, just the player's config files
[06:44] <Morpheme> LOL
[06:44] <xtgyal> you don't think it was formatted somehow?
[06:44] <sivik> ActionParsnip, nvm, i'm dumb, the package i'm looking for is there
[06:45] <Morpheme> impossibile
[06:45] <xtgyal> well nothing is here except the default folders and a config file
[06:45] <xtgyal> no music
[06:45] <almoxarife> !qlix
[06:45] <Morpheme> weird
[06:45] <almoxarife> !info qlix
[06:46] <xtgyal> no it wasn't formatted
[06:46] <xtgyal> says 185 MB out of 4 GB free
[06:46] <xtgyal> just doesn't display in Nautilus
[06:46] <faux_sho> xtgyal: try ctrl+h in naitilus to see if there are any hidden folders
[06:46] <faux_sho> nautilus*
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> sivik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/801427/  may help
[06:46] <xtgyal> no
[06:47] <xtgyal> I just did sudo ls /mnt again and says transport endpoint is not connected
[06:47] <grendal-prime> grrrrrrr
[06:47] <grendal-prime> im going crazy here
[06:47] <faux_sho> xtgyal: so you can see/play them in rhythmbox? and you wanna know what folder they're in
[06:47] <faux_sho> ?
[06:47] <almoxarife> xtgyal: may i suggest you install 'qlix' , then unplug and replugin your device, start 'qlix' see if the device is found
[06:48] <Morpheme> omg
[06:48] <xtgyal> they should all be in the main directory
[06:48] <grendal-prime> all i need to do is take my desktop and copy it to a flash file that can be displayerd on a web page
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> sivik: no need to ru
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> sivik: run that then ;-)
[06:48] <grendal-prime> like vnc capture what is happening...so i can do a damn presentation with it..