[11:32] <Sirrush> I installed Breezy Badger recently and was wondering how to get acceleration for my video card ( ATI Radeon 9000 Pro) I've installed the I have installed xorg-driver-fglrx, but it is still very laggy, I had it previously on Hoarary where it was much quicker any idea's or help would be much appreciated Thanks
[11:32] <Cynos> vim ~/.xsession
[11:32] <[LethAL] > Cynos, he won't know how to use it
[11:32] <brownie17> thoreauputic, what does that have to do with me?
[11:32] <[LethAL] > Cynos, be nice :-)
[11:32] <intelikey> you can open it with an editor and save the commands you need to a script micro_girl, that is a good way to learn more about linux.
[11:33] <thoreauputic> brownie17: erm, you asked about .xsession ?
[11:33] <brownie17> HappyFool, ok, so i am over captive, but how about getting my drive to work again? it has some stuff i want
[11:33] <micro_girl> shit! >_< now, it is asking me for the cd again
[11:33] <brownie17> thoreauputic, i don't beleive i did. are you sure?
[11:33] <Cynos> [Lethal]  - Yeah, alright.
[11:33] <thoreauputic> brownie17 thoreauputic, [LethAL] , what is this about .xsession not existing!!?!?!?!
[11:33] <Cynos> Nano !/.xession
[11:33] <[LethAL] > Ah :)
[11:33] <Cynos> Erk, Nano ~/.xsession
[11:33] <geoffj> micro_girl: did you add the -m option?
[11:33] <[LethAL] > Cynos, it's nano anyway :P
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: i don't believe ntfs partitions are usually automounted
[11:34] <Cynos> thoreauputic - it doesn't exist in your user directory unless you make it.
[11:34] <brownie17> thoreauputic, i only said that because [LethAL]  told me you said something to me about it. i wanted to know why
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: did you maybe run the 'windowsdrive' script to mount it ?
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Cynos: I am well aware of thet
[11:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes, but i installed the winmac_fstab script
[11:34] <Cynos> K, just checking.
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: ok; you need to make sure it runs on boot
[11:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, so my windows partititons are auto-mounted
[11:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, so reboot?
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: unless winmac_fstab edits the fstab ?
[11:34] <HappyFool> brownie17: no
[11:34] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes it does
[11:35] <brownie17> HappyFool, um.. i think so
[11:35] <bibe> Shunyata, I configured the sources, I am now compiling
[11:35] <HappyFool> brownie17: can you paste your /etc/fstab, and the output of 'mount' and 'sudo fdisk -l' to the pastebin ?
[11:35] <intelikey> micro_girl open the Term and type "sudo apt-config " (might hit the tab key to make sure it is not configure) and the bottom line "edit <blah>" and comment out the first line.
[11:35] <HappyFool> brownie17: you can put it all on one paste, just be sure to separate the outputs clearly
[11:35] <brownie17> HappyFool,  ok
[11:35] <bibe> Shunyata, you only need build-essential, libgdbm-dev and libid3tag0-dev packages. Please read the configure error messages...
[11:36] <Shunyata> bibe : i'll look for it
[11:36] <intelikey> micro_girl can i ask if you are on dialup or is there some reason not to use the online sources ?
[11:36] <Cynos> Hey can anyone here fill me in on Breezy, before I blow my cap?
[11:36] <bibe> Shunyata, you simply need to issue a 'sudo apt-get install build-essential libgdbm-dev libid3tag0-dev
[11:36] <hendric> how will i verify if v4l is running or not?
[11:37] <Cynos> Basically, is it stable at mo?
[11:37] <agong> Hey. I just got Ubuntu 5.10 RC installed on my Dell Inspiron 600m and it works GREAT. However I'm a new Linux user so I do have some "stupid" questions. I'll start with my biggest concern, that's firewall. Do Linux operating systems need firewall to secure the connections? If so, which one would you guys recommend?
[11:37] <bibe> Shunyata, then unpack the sources, cd to the sources dir and './configure && make && sudo make install'
[11:37] <Shunyata> bibe : some stuff was missing
[11:37] <micro_girl> intelikey, in portugal we have download limit, and if I downloaded that I would have to use 1/4 of our monthly downloads!
[11:37] <THePyromaniac> agong: look up firestarter
[11:37] <NsOmNiAc> agong : you can use Firestarter .. GUI based
[11:37] <intelikey> i see.
[11:37] <bibe> agong, else take a look to shorewall
[11:38] <HappyFool> Cynos: it's at release-candidate stage; final is due this Friday, why not just wait?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> agong: unless you run services, you won't need a firewall as such - no ports listen by default
[11:38] <brownie17> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2909
[11:38] <hendric> how will i verify if v4l is running or not?
[11:38] <THePyromaniac> so anyone know? I know how to do partitions in the install manager, but not from within ubuntu. How can i make a FAT32 partition as a repositry of all my music? :D
[11:39] <HappyFool> brownie17: hmm
[11:39] <intelikey> THePyromaniac cfdisk
[11:39] <thoreauputic> hendric: try pgrep v4l - if you get a number it is running
[11:39] <thoreauputic> hendric: or do  ps aux | grep v4l
[11:39] <HappyFool> brownie17: that /dev/hda2 looks wrong
[11:39] <intelikey> THePyromaniac oh you mean add the mount point or make the partition ?
[11:40] <hendric> thoreauputic,no result.. how can i enable it?
[11:40] <HappyFool> brownie17: how many partitions are on your windows disk ?
[11:40] <brownie17> HappyFool, aaaaa, which bit is that hda2 in?
[11:40] <AES_24_96> Madpilot ok aso this is what I want to grab right? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[11:40] <HappyFool> brownie17: in /etc/fstab
[11:40] <thoreauputic> hendric: I'm not familiar with v4l
[11:40] <hendric> ok..
[11:40] <THePyromaniac> intelikey, no idea. at the moment the partition is just a idea in my head. what would i go about doing to make it reality? lol
[11:40] <HappyFool> brownie17: my suggestions is to remove the last three lines of fstab and rerun winmac_fstab
[11:40] <thoreauputic> hendric: try looking up the man - man v4l
[11:40] <Madpilot> AES_24_96: that's where you'll get the ISOs of Ubuntu, yes
[11:40] <intelikey> THePyromaniac cfdisk
[11:40] <brownie17> HappyFool, well theres a little controversy here, there was two, one win win98 and one with winxp, i deleted the win98 and apparently there were vital booting information for both stored on it, now i can't boot from the winxp
[11:40] <THePyromaniac> thanks
[11:40] <hendric> anyone here who can help me run v4l.. i got it running on my last installation (out of the box) i wonder not now
[11:41] <intelikey> np
[11:41] <thoreauputic> hendric: or  v4l --help
[11:41] <THePyromaniac> i can make it go to /home/username/media right?
[11:41] <HappyFool> brownie17: doh
[11:41] <micro_girl> DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :@
[11:41] <micro_girl> -_-
[11:41] <micro_girl> sorry everyone!
[11:41] <HappyFool> brownie17: hmm. do you have a winxp install disk?
[11:41] <micro_girl> any idea on how to mount something on /cdrom/ ?
[11:41] <agong> Thank you. My second and last question for the day would be is it possible just to install the ESSENTIAL files that's needed to run Linux and the GNOME GUI without all the extra applications such as the games, Totem, Openoffice, etc. or do I have to go to the Synaptic Package Manager to remove them after the installation?
[11:41] <THePyromaniac> intelikey: it says error opening disk
[11:42] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes, i do. winxp professional corporate editiong
[11:42] <THePyromaniac> intelikey, my bad, didnt sudo
[11:42] <HappyFool> brownie17: hmm, i was going to suggest using 'fixmbr', but actually that might not help.
[11:42] <wdh> The following packages have unmet dependencies: grisbi: Depends: libofx1c2 but it is not installable
[11:42] <Madpilot> agong: they're all installed by default, in the usual install. Why would you not want to have a full install?
[11:42] <wdh> E: Broken packages
[11:42] <HappyFool> brownie17: a solution might be to get grub to boot windows XP for you
[11:42] <wdh> is this a bug in breezy?
[11:42] <brownie17> HappyFool, do you still want me to remove the last three lines of fstab?
[11:43] <HappyFool> brownie17: well, i don't think you want that 'captive-ntfs' entry
[11:43] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe make a backup of it in your home directory
[11:43] <THePyromaniac> anyone knows how to pass a parameter to cfdisk to make it load a different HD to the first one it sees? its noticing my windows HD and not my main
[11:43] <agong> Madpilot: I suppose it's not that much of a big deal, just a matter of personal preference, I just don't like to install softwares or libraries that I will not be using.
[11:43] <intelikey> THePyromaniac first you make the partition "sudo cfdisk /dev/hd<?> "  then you format the partition "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hd<?#> "  then you add the mount options to /etc/fstab "man fstab && sudo gedit /etc/fstab"  <--- that's how.
[11:43] <HappyFool> brownie17: remove from '#Added by winmac_fstab utility' onwards
[11:44] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes, but how? i cannot do it. i really want to get grub to boot winxp. it did at one point, then after i deleted 98 partition, it was still in the menu, but trying to actually boot xp gave me an error, then for other reasons i reinstalled ubuntu and then it just didn't appear
[11:44] <THePyromaniac> intelikey thanks, this may go horribly wrong ^^
[11:44] <geoffj> micro_girl: how about manuall adding the line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <HappyFool> brownie17: what error did you get?
[11:44] <micro_girl> already tried that
[11:44] <micro_girl> well, i give up
[11:44] <AES_24_96> ok Im downloading it!
[11:44] <micro_girl> i am going to bed
[11:44] <geoffj> micro_girl: "deb file:///media/iso/ hoary main"
[11:44] <micro_girl> seeya everyone....
[11:44] <brownie17> HappyFool, so run sudo gedit /etc/fstab then delete the last three lines and rerun winmac_stab? do i need to redownload winmac_fstab?
[11:44] <agong> But thank you all for your help, this is a great community. Rest assured I'll be back here often. See ya guys.
[11:44] <micro_girl> seeya other day, everyone! and thanks!
[11:45] <brownie17> micro_girl, cya
[11:45] <intelikey> THePyromaniac read before you type.  cfdisk can wipe out a whole drive at one time..... :)
[11:45] <THePyromaniac> eep ok
[11:45] <HappyFool> brownie17: if you erased winmac_fstab, you'll need to redownload it ;)
[11:45] <brownie17> HappyFool, i think i did.
[11:45] <brownie17> !winmac_fstab
[11:45] <ubotu> brownie17: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:45] <brownie17> hahah
[11:45] <HappyFool> !tell brownie17 about windowsdrives
[11:45] <Shunyata> bibe: thx a lot libid3dev was missing now i can compile :)
[11:45] <dmlinux> Anyone know how to clear out my Memory swap partition?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: well you can do  sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -a
[11:46] <intelikey> THePyromaniac it is a good rule of thumb, if you are root(including sudo) always read first type only when sure.
[11:46] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: if you are sure you want to ... :)
[11:47] <intelikey> dmlinux sudo swapoff -a
[11:47] <dmlinux> thoreauptic what does it do , because right now its full , and im getting some wierd error when i boot
[11:47] <intelikey> dmlinux sudo swapon -a  to reactivate it.
[11:47] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: it turns off swap, then turns it back on
[11:48] <thoreauputic> intelikey: I already told him that :)
[11:48] <brownie17> HappyFool, how do i run the utility? executing it in terminal just makes it close straight away
[11:48] <HappyFool> brownie17: makes what close? the terminal?
[11:48] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes. i didn't open the terminal and cd to it. i just double clicked the file and chose the optuon "execute in terminal"
[11:49] <intelikey> i don't have a swap <anything> and only 98m ram  works fine.  but cups is a ram eater. if you run cups you need more that 98m
[11:49] <HappyFool> brownie17: oh
[11:49] <dmlinux> what does Memory swap partition do?
[11:49] <HappyFool> brownie17: no, open a terminal and run it with sudo
[11:49] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe 'sudo sh ./winmac_fstab'
[11:49] <HappyFool> brownie17: make that 'sudo bash winmac_stab'
[11:50] <hendric> how do i mount my webcam? i got the driver installed and v4l running.. but it errors out "/dev/video0 no such file"
[11:50] <thoreauputic> dmlinux: in simple terms, it's an "overflow" for situations where ram is under pressure - but that's an oversimplification
[11:50] <brownie17> HappyFool, i did sh, and it worked
[11:50] <brownie17> HappyFool, my drive is fixed
[11:50] <dmlinux> thoreauputic ah ok, gonna reboot see if i get the message again
[11:50] <HappyFool> brownie17: great
[11:50] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe uninstall the captive-ntfs package
[11:50] <brownie17> HappyFool, now is there ANY way to safely write two small files to that hard disk on ubuntu?
[11:51] <HappyFool> brownie17: hmm. i haven't used captive, sorry
[11:51] <HappyFool> brownie17: this is to fix your boot problem?
[11:51] <brownie17> HappyFool, not necessarily captive
[11:51] <brownie17> HappyFool, yes
[11:51] <koex> hi
[11:51] <hendric> how do i mount my webcam? i got the driver installed and v4l running.. but it errors out "/dev/video0 no such file"
[11:51] <brownie17> HappyFool, i want to write the files "ntldr" & "ntdetect" to the hard drive, because somewhere i read that might fix the problem
[11:52] <HappyFool> brownie17: my suggestion would be to find a live cd with captive support (I *think* knoppix might have such support)
[11:52] <HappyFool> brownie17: that assumes bandwidth is not an issue for you
[11:53] <brownie17> HappyFool, i have unlimited downloads, or close enough, but i only have a 256 connection, and  i am not known for my patience. would it be better to run "knoppix" permantently? or is it more difficult than ubuntu
[11:53] <HappyFool> brownie17: i don't know what other options you have for writing to ntfs from linux than captive; i think it may be the only one
[11:53] <pepsi> how can i get the system to read /etc/fstab again and mount stuff?
[11:53] <intelikey> dmlinux if is a paging partition/file  it gives linux a place to write what is in ram and clear that page of ram for use with another app or even the same app...  then as is needed it rereads the memory in swap backinto the ram.      (also slows a system down if you don't need it, and it is being used anyway)   but with standard linux systems swap is only supposed to be written to when free ram < 2~4 m      problem is that
[11:53] <antix> where should I put iptables directives in ubuntu? /etc/init.d/networking ?
[11:54] <THePyromaniac> intelikey, is it possible for me to mount it to /home/username/media? i want to know if this is likely to break it before i reboot and find i can no longer get into ubuntu
[11:54] <HappyFool> brownie17: i'm not a knoppix user; as far as i know it's debian based, and is focussed on being a live-cd, rather than a normal 'installed' linux
[11:54] <brownie17> HappyFool, ok, well do you mind giving me a download page for a knoppix livecd?
[11:54] <intelikey> that means you may be into swap because of allocated ram way before you actually need it.
[11:54] <HappyFool> brownie17: www.knoppix.org, it looks like
[11:54] <HappyFool> brownie17: first check if it has captive support!
[11:54] <intelikey> THePyromaniac yes you can mount to any dir.
[11:55] <brownie17> HappyFool, will do. thankyou
[11:55] <HappyFool> brownie17: maybe you can ask on #knoppix about that
[11:55] <brownie17> HappyFool, the website you gave me is german, my german is only enough to understand VERY little.
[11:55] <HappyFool> brownie17: oops
[11:55] <thoreauputic> brownie17: try knoppix.net
[11:55] <brownie17> HappyFool, no worries, i found an english version
[11:56] <HappyFool> brownie17: there's a little amerbritish flag thing
[11:56] <thoreauputic> there's an english knoppix site - I think thta's it
[11:56] <THePyromaniac> intelikey thanks :D
[11:56] <intelikey> np
[11:58] <kemik> hmm
[11:59] <kemik> fglrx is b0rked in breezy ?
[11:59] <kemik> or updating from hoary->breezy requires some work to get fglrx to work ?
[11:59] <HappyFool> brownie17: still here?
[12:00] <HappyFool> brownie17: according to this http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Rescue_FAQ there is NO ntfs write support; sorry for suggesting otherwise
[12:01] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: brownie17 I seem to recall kanotix includes captive
[12:01] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: thanks
[12:02] <brownie17> HappyFool, i am still here, i am hearing it is possible ot mount an ntfs disk with rw support, but it damages the filesystem, and the fixntfs tool must be run afterwards.
[12:02] <brownie17> !kanotix
[12:02] <ubotu> brownie17: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:02] <HappyFool> brownie17: this is on #knoppix ?
[12:02] <HappyFool> brownie17: i presume they know better than us ;)
[12:02] <brownie17> HappyFool, no, this is on a website forum
[12:02] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey, how will i know if it worked or not? chuckle. i dont see it in Computer, /media/ or anywhere else
[12:02] <brownie17> HappyFool, probably, maybe i should go there and ask?
[12:03] <brownie17> thoreauputic, what is kanotix?
[12:03] <intelikey> what is the number of the partition ThePyromaniac ?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> brownie17: a knoppix variant
[12:03] <brownie17> thoreauputic, ok thankyou
[12:03] <intelikey> or even simpler still just run "fdisk -l "
[12:03] <HappyFool> brownie17: i would. bit of an empty channel though
[12:03] <ThePyromaniac> sda5
[12:04] <intelikey> or even simpler still just run "fdisk -l "
[12:04] <Arnald> brownie17: what is google? ;)
[12:04] <Syruss> vas ist das!?
[12:04] <brownie17> Arnald, hahah, yeah i am doing that aswell atm, but it is giving me an answer different to the one i want :P
[12:05] <Arnald> ;)
[12:05] <thoreauputic> brownie17: ask in #kanotix - kano is often there as well
[12:05] <inuyasha> hello again! i got ubuntu working! found some more system controls :)
[12:05] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey, it seems that there is both sda2 and sda5 that are the same size and start in the same place, its meant to be sda5.
[12:05] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac if it shows up in "fdisk -l "  it worked.    you can "sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda5 /home<blah> "
[12:05] <ThePyromaniac> and i ran the commands you said, but it still says the filetype is linux not vfat
[12:06] <intelikey> yes ThePyromaniac it is both of them.   #2 is the extended partition and #5 is the logical drive.
[12:06] <ThePyromaniac> thanks for telling me how to mount, how can i change to vfat? ^^
[12:07] <brownie17> kanotix requires some fair amount of work apparently, the kanotix website itself tells me it's drivers for captive are out of date and i should download new ones. why do they not just put the new ones on themselves?
[12:07] <intelikey> umount it.  and "mkfs.vfat /dev/sda5 "   thought i told you that ^ up there....
[12:07] <HappyFool> brownie17: time is limited. this is all volunteer work, remember
[12:07] <HappyFool> brownie17: well, i assume it is, anyway
[12:08] <brownie17> HappyFool, i am not blaming them, i am just saying i may not have the expertise to do it myself
[12:08] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey i followed insturctions and it looked like it worked, but fdisk says linux as the file system
[12:08] <ThePyromaniac> how do i unmount it now? lol
[12:08] <brownie17> gtg
[12:09] <intelikey> use the up arrow key until the mount command appears and hit home and put a u in front of it    umount <blah>
[12:09] <HappyFool> brownie17: how about this? http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ -- assuming you have another win pc around
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey ahh, well that command didnt mount it anyhoo, cause it says it needs a filesystem specified
[12:10] <intelikey> ok ThePyromaniac i know what you did.   lol    you made the partition in cfdisk but didn't change the type to fat32 lol   go back to step one....
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> ok
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> its not mounted, but in fstab ^^
[12:10] <ThePyromaniac> i dont have step one cause i restarted, remember? :D
[12:11] <Anchovie> Hey guys. I have always wondered how would you install programs with *.tar.gz format under Linux. Well what I did with this particular program is I CD'ed to it's path contains the source and I typed "./configure", and I get the error "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:11] <Anchovie> See `config.log' for more details." So bascially now I'm stuck.
[12:11] <snadge-l> i hope this isnt too much of a noob question.. but when i do an upgrade with hoary, the laptop locks up competely configuting the utils-linux package
[12:11] <HappyFool> Anchovie: you need to install the 'build-essential' package
[12:11] <HappyFool> Anchovie: you can use synaptic to do that
[12:11] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac "cfdisk /dev/sda "   and select partition 5 right arrow to change type.   :)
[12:12] <snadge-l> completely and configuring.. if i could type properly
[12:12] <sueE> Hello, I'm trying to compile a piece of software in order to package it for ubuntu for some friends.
[12:12] <intelikey> me thinks if you logged out you probbly have the commands in history....
[12:12] <Anchovie> HappyFool: How would I import the package into the Synpatic Package Manager?
[12:12] <sueE> However, I am running into troubles when running autoconf
[12:12] <sueE> it gives me:
[12:12] <ThePyromaniac> got it!
[12:12] <sueE> configure.ac:335: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_SDL
[12:12] <sueE> autoreconf: /usr/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1
[12:12] <HappyFool> sueE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch might be of help, but I recommend http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[12:12] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey next? ^-^
[12:12] <HappyFool> Anchovie: it should be listed in Synaptic already
[12:13] <dooglus> hmmm.  beagle works great in breezy now even with reiserfs...  it didn't a few weeks ago.
[12:13] <intelikey> after you change the type ThePyromaniac mkfs.vfat /dev/sda5
[12:13] <snadge-l> is there a known problem with updating the utils-linux package in hoary?
[12:13] <sueE> ok, still waiting for that window to be opened
[12:13] <HappyFool> sueE: looks like you need (at a guess) SDL autoconf macros; I'm not sure where'd you'd get them
[12:13] <inuyasha> how do i change nicks in xchat please !_!
[12:14] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey ok done, i also had 2 entries of sda3 and one was meant to be 5 heh
[12:14] <sueE> HappyFool, they should be included in the dev package!
[12:14] <HappyFool> sueE: check in the INSTALL or README file for a required automake version
[12:14] <thoreauputic> inuyasha:  /nick your new nick
[12:14] <HappyFool> sueE: i think automake might be different; I'm not sure
[12:14] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac now mount <mount_point>    cause you said it was in fstab...
[12:14] <Anchovie> HappyFool: Sorry I misinterpreted what you said, I'll give "build-essential" a try, thanks.
[12:14] <HappyFool> Anchovie: have fun ;)
[12:15] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey ok have done, i did the "sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda5 /home/phil/media" command and it didnt give an error message
[12:15] <ThePyromaniac> that all done then?
[12:15] <intelikey> that
[12:15] <sueE> HappyFool, well the autoconf is allright, I use the same one on rh and slack
[12:15] <sueE> automake too
[12:15] <intelikey> that's all.   yes.
[12:15] <HappyFool> sueE: same version?
[12:15] <sueE> yes
[12:15] <sueE> I guess the macro's are failing
[12:16] <sueE> maybe should go to deb channel to see what their solution is?
[12:16] <nipplesrulz> ah no ooder my other nick was on.... how about grouping nicks in this ircd?
[12:16] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey thanks man. as i said before, where SHOULD it show up? will it show in computer or anything?
[12:16] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac you can use "df -h " to see the free space on it and other info.
[12:16] <ThePyromaniac> cool
[12:16] <thoreauputic> nipplesrulz:  /msg nickserv help
[12:16] <sueE> gnomefree
[12:17] <intelikey> the mount point ThePyromaniac is where it shows up.  any file browser can navigate there.
[12:17] <intelikey> where ever you mounted it.  that's where it is :)
[12:17] <Licker> how do you make a file let you make changes to it?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> nipplesrulz: check theoutput on the server channel ( at the left in xchat)
[12:17] <HappyFool> sueE: you've installed the libsdl1.2-dev package?
[12:17] <intelikey> Licker chmod
[12:17] <thoreauputic> nipplesrulz: server tab I meant
[12:18] <intelikey> man chmod
[12:18] <Anchovie> Happyfool: Sorry but I'm new to Linux. Just run into another error, "checking for gaim... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gaim' found
[12:18] <Anchovie> configure: error: Library requirements (gaim) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them." It looks like I'll have to edit some file to add the path of my Gaim package, but how would I do that?
[12:18] <HappyFool> Anchovie: no, you need to install development files
[12:18] <sueE> HappyFool, yes, I think I have most -dev packages
[12:18] <nipplesrulz> o.O thanx!
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Anchovie:  sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[12:18] <sueE> I have most of the available ones ;)
[12:19] <HappyFool> Anchovie: i recommend adding the 'deb-src' entries in /etc/apt/sources.list, then doing what thoreauputic suggested
[12:19] <intelikey> Anchovie snaptic  install gaim
[12:19] <HappyFool> Anchovie: or find a simpler app to compile ;). Gaim will have the gnome-libs as dependencies
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I assume you are compiling a new version of gaim?
[12:19] <intelikey> oh sorry thoreauputic i didn't see your post.
[12:19] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: It suppose to be an addon for Gaim which supports an Asian instant message program.
[12:20] <thoreauputic> intelikey: no worries :)
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I see - well as a first time compile, gaim is likely to be... *cough* an adventure
[12:20] <HappyFool> heh
[12:21] <sueE> Well, it's clear the macro's are not in the -dev packages
[12:21] <intelikey> :)
[12:21] <sueE> usually you don't need  them
[12:21] <sueE> only when doing 'own development stuff' like using cvs releases
[12:22] <Anchovie> Happyfool: How would I "add the 'deb-src' entries in /etc/apt/sources.list"? What are the commands I have to input into the Terminal?
[12:22] <HappyFool> sueE: this is related, but a bit old: http://www.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl/2003-October/057446.html, but it mentions 'MSYS' -- is that the Mingw system?
[12:22] <HappyFool> Anchovie: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  - and remove the # mark from the deb-src lines, then save and update
[12:23] <HappyFool> tsk tsk. gksudo gedit.
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: or use nano as HappyFool suggests - gedit is a GUI editor so maybe easier
[12:24] <intelikey> i would sujest "sudo apt-configure" and edit from there that also updates the db when finished.
[12:24] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: heh - yes - sudo gedit seems to work OK though
[12:24] <intelikey> but i don't use ubuntu.....  so don't listen to me.
[12:24] <feugan3333> Hi all. Could anyone do me a favour and tell me what the permissions of the files /usr/lib/cups/backend/scsi and /usr/lib/cups/backend/serial are?
[12:25] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: So I delete all the #'s in that file?
[12:25] <nipplesrulz> ok! how do i format/mount my second hdd... a link would be sufficiant :)
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: no
[12:25] <Anchovie> Ah crap...
[12:25] <Anchovie> I haven't saved it yet...
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: only the relevant ones - the file has other comments in it
[12:25] <intelikey> if you do i hope you used my command..... :)
[12:26] <Anchovie> Okay ugh... How do I quit without saving under nano?
[12:26] <apokryphos> Anchovie: ctrl+x, n
[12:26] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: ctrl+x and say no when it asks you to save
[12:26] <Anchovie> Oh ok, phew...
[12:26] <feugan3333> nipplesrulz: do you want to format it or mount it. Its not the same thing.
[12:26] <intelikey> yeah or use [ctrl] X
[12:27] <nipplesrulz> first i need to format it ext3 then mout it :)
[12:27] <HappyFool> intelikey: apt-config doesn't seem terribly useful to me
[12:27] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I suggest you back up files before editing them :)
[12:27] <nipplesrulz> i just forgot the relative commands as ive only done a couple times and those a few months ago feugan3333
[12:27] <frickel> Can someone again give me the link where to get die update adress for the like "unstable" ubuntu??
[12:28] <intelikey> HappyFool it allows for a nano edit of the sources file and when you exit it updates the db.  if that errors it loops back so you can fix it....
[12:28] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you can make a backup copy with ' sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original for instance
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know if there are PPC network install cds?
[12:28] <nipplesrulz> [commandline version preferably lol]
[12:28] <HappyFool> intelikey: hmm. my 'apt-config' seems to muck with all the non-sources.list files
[12:28] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Oh ok, thanks! =)
[12:29] <feugan3333> nipplesrulz: mkfs.ext3 will make a ext3 partition which is formatted. You can then use the mount command.
[12:29] <HappyFool> intelikey: the stuff in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d, i think
[12:29] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: network installs are possible I believe, but perhaps not in the way you're thinking; see /msg ubotu install
[12:29] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: when you fiddle with system files it's always nice to know you have a fallback :)
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok apokryphos
[12:29] <intelikey> again HappyFool yes that is what it is for.   and was the question at hand when i mentioned it.
[12:29] <feugan3333> Hi all. Could anyone do me a favour and tell me what the permissions of the files /usr/lib/cups/backend/scsi and /usr/lib/cups/backend/serial are?
[12:29] <nipplesrulz> hum
[12:30] <nipplesrulz> seems it doesnt know where the device is right off the bat !_!
[12:30] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: So I removed all the #'s before everyline that starts with "deb-src" right?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: yes, that sounds right
[12:30] <frickel> can someone give me the link to where is the ubuntu stable unstable thing is explained and where the new update deb links are?
[12:31] <apokryphos> !breezy
[12:31] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:31] <bullraiser> hi, is there anyway to set the icons to smaller size in Gnome display?
[12:31] <feugan3333> nipplesrulz: you should know which device you want to create an ext3 partition on.
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: don't forget to reload/update
[12:31] <apokryphos> frickel: check that
[12:31] <frickel> yeah, thanx I lost this one
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: either in synaptic, or sudo apt-get update
[12:31] <Syruss> ext3 :/
[12:31] <nipplesrulz> ic.
[12:31] <sueE> HappyFool, no, it's the same error, but the solution is not the sam
[12:31] <Syruss> try to use reiserfs whenever possible
[12:31] <Syruss> it's far superior.
[12:31] <sueE> the thing is I need to produce a package that'll run on a breezy system
[12:32] <intelikey> feugan3333 i'm not running cups  but i'd say probably 644  or 755
[12:32] <nipplesrulz> dev1 or hdd1 eh lets rummage a bit
[12:32] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Alright, thanks a bunch, it's updating in the Terminal now, I wouldn't have known I had to do that if you hadn't mentioned it.
[12:32] <Jedrick> can someone help me i downloaded a shorewall but i dont know how to config.. it says it wont run unless its configured.. help pls newbie here
[12:32] <intelikey> more likely the first
[12:32] <sueE> I'm having a presentation next week and it would be nice to do it on ubuntu instad of running live cd's
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: that just updates the database of packages available
[12:33] <sueE> Maybe I'll just generate a 'configure' on the slack development box
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: then you can do  sudo apt-get build-dep gaim  or whatever
[12:33] <feugan3333> intelikey: I need to know which, cause my cupd is serious messed up. It does nothing when I run "lpr mytextfile"
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: that will fetch the buid dependencies for you
[12:33] <thoreauputic> *build
[12:34] <pc22> whats the difference with gnome and gnome universe?
[12:34] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: warning : there will be a lot of them I think ;)
[12:34] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: I got some 404's while updating the package. "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:34] <Anchovie> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] " Any idea on the fix?
[12:34] <intelikey> Anchovie thoreauputic that is why i said apt-config  it does that and makes sure all the sources lists are correct before it releases you.
[12:34] <Jedrick> can someone help me i downloaded a shorewall but i dont know how to config.. it says it wont run unless its configured.. help pls newbie here
[12:34] <thoreauputic> intelikey: OK - noted
[12:34] <spiral> hmmm, did somebody break gpgme ?
[12:34] <learn25> When will be the stable release of Ubuntu 5.10?
[12:34] <spiral> it tells me it isn't compiled for openpgp nor s/mime
[12:35] <bullraiser> this is my frist time Gnome desktop experience and wondering, if i can tweak something around to reduce the icons size to a smaller size, though i was able to set the fonts and window appearance ...
[12:35] <xophEr> how can I get my icons aligned to a grid of some sort? in gnome 2.12..
[12:35] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: there are no breezy backports yet
[12:35] <feugan3333> Jedrick: did you install the package?
[12:35] <liable> mmmm pizzza
[12:35] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: because breezy isn't released yet
[12:35] <pc22> hello?
[12:35] <Jedrick> yes
[12:35] <pc22> whats with the gnome universe?
[12:35] <Jedrick> i already install the package
[12:35] <Jedrick> all i need is to configure it
[12:36] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: basically you can ignore that, in other words
[12:36] <feugan3333> Jedrick: The ubuntu package? :-)
[12:36] <intelikey> Jedrick maybe dpkg -reconfigure shorewall
[12:36] <HappyFool> sueE: do you have an 'sdl.m4' library on your system?
[12:36] <intelikey> not sure it has a setup script.....
[12:36] <nipplesrulz> hrm... i am currently trying to log in as root.... so i tried the su command.. and when i put pass i defined for system.. it said authentication failure.. is the user i defined at system startup root?
[12:36] <zyga> hello
[12:36] <suchix> hallo
[12:36] <HappyFool> sueE: i have /usr/share/aclocal/sdl.m4
[12:36] <zyga> I'm building a stripped-down version of ubuntu
[12:36] <nipplesrulz> *system install
[12:36] <Jedrick> ok
[12:36] <zyga> what is /var/cache/archive-copier for?
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell nipplesrulz about rootsudo
[12:37] <zyga> it seems to belong to base-config
[12:37] <thoreauputic> !tell nipplesrulz about root
[12:37] <zyga> but removing and purging that package left over 100 megs of debs behind
[12:37] <Jedrick> man it says  conflicting actions --control and --remove
[12:37] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: But when I tried to do the "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim" command it says "
[12:37] <Anchovie> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)"
[12:37] <HappyFool> sueE: it's part of libsdl1.2-dev -- make sure that package is installed; it has AM_PATH_SDL as the first macro defined
[12:38] <feugan3333> itelikey: not dpkg-reconfigure ?
[12:38] <intelikey> Jedrick i'm very unfamilear with dpkg  so the syntax may be wrong or even the command name ( for instantance dpkg-reconfigure man be the name )  but that would be where i'd start.
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: OK edit the backports line ou in your sources.list
[12:38] <intelikey> yes feugan3333
[12:38] <learn25> anybody tried to run BricsCAD under ubuntu?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you don't need that line so just put a # in front of it
[12:38] <ragtag> Hallo zusammen
[12:39] <ragtag> benutzt jemand skype unter ubuntu?
[12:39] <nipplesrulz> even better :)
[12:39] <sueE> HappyFool, it worked, I forgot to run the shell script sh.autogen
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you'll need to ru the apt-get update again after that
[12:39] <sueE> it seems
[12:39] <HappyFool> !de
[12:39] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[12:39] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Kk, thanks.
[12:39] <sueE> HappyFool, it generates what you need. on my other machines the build tree is ancient
[12:39] <intelikey> yes feugan3333  it may be dpkg reconfigure     or dpkg.reconfigure    or .....   i don't use ubuntu so i can't even check ...
[12:39] <sueE> I have not used that shell script for months ;)
[12:39] <Jedrick> anyone can help me how to configure shorewalla
[12:40] <spiral> so, I was saying : does anyone know why gpgme is broken ?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you follow the reasoning, right?
[12:40] <HappyFool> dpkg-reconfigure
[12:40] <feugan3333> intelikey: talk about working blind :-)
[12:40] <intelikey> no working from a one time experance....
[12:40] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: I'm new to Linux, so much of this is not a habit yet.
[12:40] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: yes, I understand
[12:41] <feugan3333> intelikey: oh so you could see and then you became blind :-)
[12:41] <nipplesrulz> ok one last question for a bit here i HOPE lol: /dev/hdc1              36G  1.7G   33G   5% /
[12:41] <intelikey> lol
[12:41] <nipplesrulz>  <<-=-= that is my primary hdd.. so would the second hdd then be hdd ?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: but do you understand why I suggested editing the list ?
[12:41] <Knorrie> will gphpedit be fixed before 13 oct? it's still behaving very strange
[12:41] <intelikey> feugan3333 if you like to look at it that way.... ok  :)
[12:41] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Oh yeah, so the system won't try to get information from the backport anymore.
[12:41] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: if it's on the same ide cable
[12:41] <feugan3333> intelikey: :-)
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: correct :)
[12:42] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: try 'sudo fdisk -l' to see the hard-drive partitions ubuntu knows about
[12:42] <nipplesrulz> yeah same cable, different phisical hdd.. why did it make first hard disk hdc? [default instal]
[12:42] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Yeah, that's cool of you making sure people know how things work instead of just giving step-by-step instructions, which I might not learn anything at all in the end. Thanks! =)
[12:43] <intelikey> nipplesrulz if that is your primary.    the secondary on the same cable is hdd yes.   but that is second ide channel    first ide is hda
[12:43] <pragup> what should be the graphic driver for a system with MSI motherboard K8TM Series
[12:43] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: the 'master' on the second IDE bus is /dev/hdc
[12:43] <intelikey> i just said that
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you're welcome :) It saves us time in the end anyway if people "get" it !
[12:43] <nipplesrulz> so it follows the old school a / b / c where c is first hdd by default then?
[12:44] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: no
[12:44] <intelikey> nipplesrulz no
[12:44] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: master on first ide channel is /dev/hda
[12:44] <nipplesrulz> hrm
[12:44] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: maybe you have a cd-rom or something on the other ide channel?
[12:44] <intelikey> master on second ide is hdc
[12:45] <nipplesrulz> oh! my dvd's
[12:45] <feugan3333> "fdisk -l" ussually helps to figure out which partition is which.
[12:45] <intelikey> wep
[12:46] <nipplesrulz> HappyFool,  yeah i have 2 dvd drives in the machine too, i never thought to see if they were on the first ide channel or not.. silly me
[12:46] <intelikey> he i had a system that that command didn't show anything on.....  you had to specify a device for fdisk to scan.....
[12:47] <feugan3333> Could all those that use cupsd please stand up and be proud to be out of you mind and out of control.
[12:47] <HappyFool> nipplesrulz: usually you don't have to worry about that
[12:47] <ThePyromaniac> how can i change my computers network workgroup?
[12:47] <bullraiser> my maximum screen resolution, when i choose from system preferences shows only 1024*768. Is there any way to increase the resolution?
[12:47] <nipplesrulz> yay formatted! *goes to try to mout this thing ;)*
[12:47] <intelikey> lol feugan3333 .....
[12:48] <feugan3333> nipplesrulz: that's the easy part
[12:48] <HappyFool> !tell bullraiser about fixres
[12:48] <samu2> will breezy change the firefox icon btw?
[12:48] <ThePyromaniac> sam2 yes
[12:48] <intelikey> bullraiser dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:48] <HappyFool> dpkg-reconfigure
[12:48] <feugan3333> dpkg-reconfigure
[12:48] <ThePyromaniac> guys? anyone know how to change the computers workgroup? i had done it but i have forgotten
[12:49] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:49] <intelikey> sorry didn't tap the - hard enough.
[12:49] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: look maybe in system -> admin -> networking -> general
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> HappyFool that has PC name and domain
[12:49] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: if there's no workgroup entry there, you'll need to edit smb.conf
[12:49] <bullraiser> i do only need to change to higher resolution. Would be it wise to maually edit xorg.conf or do i need to do dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> HappyFool i want the workgroup, but thanks mate :D
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> zyga thanks
[12:50] <Jitsumi> So.... is there going to be any differences between Breezy Release Candidate and the final release?
[12:50] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: yeah, the wiki shows a different dialog box, which i don't get either.
[12:50] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: don't forget to restart samba later on: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[12:50] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Alright, so I did "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim" and got all the Gaim packages, then I tried to run "./configure" again it still gives me the error message "checking for gaim... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gaim.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gaim' found
[12:50] <Anchovie> configure: error: Library requirements (gaim) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[12:50] <Anchovie> " Any ideas?
[12:50] <intelikey> thoreauputic it is not gui  canonical method   but it is cli  canonical method
[12:50] <zyga> bullraiser: check the resolution change tool
[12:50] <bullraiser> resolution change tool?
[12:50] <thoreauputic> intelikey: erm, news to me but whatever...
[12:50] <zyga> bullraiser: system->prefs->resolution
[12:50] <nipplesrulz> yay we have achived success!!!!!! thanx guys!
[12:50] <HappyFool> Anchovie: install gaim-dev
[12:50] <dodgyville> Hello
[12:50] <zyga> bullraiser: (I've got a different locale so I cannot say exactly
[12:51] <sueE> HappyFool, I am not sure here: I need an upated version of gtk cairo to function with this package
[12:51] <sueE> it is not in synaptic
[12:51] <scanwinder> does anyone know of any software i can use to save flash animations off webpages? - like offline explorer(which is a windows program)
[12:51] <zyga> scanwinder: simply download the .swf file
[12:51] <sueE> should I also package cairo or is there an experimental repos?
[12:51] <intelikey> thoreauputic the reason being.   if you break your gui that way you already know how to fix it.
[12:51] <HappyFool> sueE: sounds like you are about to descend in dependency hell
[12:51] <sueE> no, it is not that terrible
[12:51] <sueE> it is just
[12:51] <bullraiser> i can choose only to a maximum of 1024*768 in screen resolution tool, though i am confident that it can be increased to maximum resolution.
[12:51] <zyga> scanwinder: unless they need online stuff (like downloading movies depending on your actions) it'll work
[12:51] <LasseL> which file controls what is in my gnome session?
[12:51] <feugan3333> you cant change the resolution with ctrl-alt-+ or ctr-alt--
[12:51] <sueE> there is no gtkcario 3 for ubuntu yet
[12:51] <sueE> I can make it happen ;)
[12:51] <dodgyville> scanwinder: This might work: In mozilla/firefix, go to Tools->Page Info->Media
[12:51] <intelikey> if you break gui from within gui .... eeek
[12:52] <Hellucinated> Ppl, i'm new to linux, i'm downloading ubuntu. just one question, an i format my Hd with the ubuntu cd? i'm with windows right now... sorry for such newbie question
[12:52] <ThePyromaniac> zyga thanks again. you seem to know your stuff about samba, never used it before. i have a few pc's on the network and want them to access /home/phil/media on this PC, which i have mounted a new FAT32 partition on. how would this be done?
[12:52] <HappyFool> sueE: no, no experimental repo for ubuntu afaik
[12:52] <Madpilot> !tell bullraiser about fixres
[12:52] <HappyFool> sueE: yeah, but what will that depend on? etc. etc.
[12:52] <sueE> I'll have a look at the debian stuff then
[12:52] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: it looks for development packages - if you get errors like that try apt-cache search <keyword> | grep dev
[12:52] <sueE> cairo depends on gtk2.8
[12:52] <bullraiser> Madpilot: what was that?
[12:52] <feugan3333> !tell feugan3333 about fixres
[12:52] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: check the directory sharing tool
[12:52] <scanwinder> dodgyville: how do i do it when a link has gone 2 another window and the toolbar isnt there
[12:52] <HappyFool> bullraiser: check your pm's from ubotu
[12:52] <Madpilot> bullraiser: you should have gotten a msg from the bot
[12:53] <ThePyromaniac> zyga i havent ever managed to get samba working, lol
[12:53] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: system->admin->shared folders
[12:53] <bullraiser> Madpilot: Oh cool, thanks mate.
[12:53] <zyga> it's got a nice gui for you
[12:53] <scanwinder> dodgyville: dw, worked it out
[12:53] <dodgyville> scanwinder: Right-click may give context menu with pageinfo->
[12:53] <ThePyromaniac> odd, says samba is not installed. i'll sort that
[12:54] <Anchovie> Ho ho ho I installed "gaim-dev" and it worked! Thanks!
[12:55] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: to share folders form your computer to other computers on your network you will need either nfs or samba, nfs is for unix world samba for windows world
[12:56] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Alright, so it "./configured" successfully and "make" without any errors, then I did "make install" and it worked fine. Now I guess the software is installed, but how do I access it?
[12:56] <intelikey> sudo
[12:56] <dupondje> hi guys, how can i resize a ext3 partition ? :s
[12:57] <intelikey> very carefully.....    parted maybe dupondje
[12:57] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: type this:  which gaim   and tell me what it says
[12:58] <dupondje> parted doesn't want to work
[12:58] <dupondje> i just added a hdd to my raid array, and now i want to resize the partition
[12:58] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: "/usr/bin/gaim"
[12:58] <intelikey> ekkk in a raid....  8-{
[12:58] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: OK that's the installed one - try running /usr/local/bin/gaim
[12:59] <dupondje> how can i resize partition with fdisk ?
[12:59] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: the compiled version will probably be in /usr/local
[01:00] <HappyFool> Anchovie: are you compiling gaim or a plugin?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: good poit
[01:00] <thoreauputic> *point
[01:00] <intelikey> dupondje if you use fdisk  you'll probably destroy it.    if there is no data on it then fdisk it. and delete make new.
[01:00] <HappyFool> dupondje: try gparted for partition resizing
[01:01] <HappyFool> is there a cli 'parted' ?
[01:01] <intelikey> there is in mdk :)
[01:01] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: yes
[01:01] <Anchovie> thoreauputic and HappyFool: I'm compiling.
[01:01] <ThePyromaniac> zyga yea im on it, thanks :D
[01:01] <kickinbahk> kickinbahk
[01:01] <intemr> hi
[01:01] <kickinbahk> hey
[01:01] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: yes, but are you compiling all of gaim or only a plugin ?
[01:02] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: and what does   ls -l /usr/local/bin/gaim  say ?
[01:02] <dupondje> intelikey
[01:02] <dupondje> with parted? what do i need to choose as beginning and @ end ?
[01:03] <intemr> have a little question, i mounted sucessfully my windows hard drive.. can i do a short cut of it to desk somehow?
[01:03] <locomorto> HappyFool: yes
[01:03] <intemr> im listening:)
[01:03] <locomorto> HappyFool: and its that command too :o)
[01:03] <intelikey> dupondje man parted   and read read read
[01:03] <locomorto> :O*
[01:03] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: "root@user:/home/agong/Downloads/openq-0.3.2# ls -l /usr/local/bin/gaim
[01:03] <Anchovie> ls: /usr/local/bin/gaim: No such file or directory"
[01:03] <locomorto> dupondje: then read some more
[01:04] <dupondje> resize partition start end
[01:04] <dupondje>     resize the filesystem on partition to start at start and end at end megabytes
[01:04] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: OK you don't have it - did you specify a path for ./configure ?
[01:04] <dupondje> but how can i set it it uses size of while hdd ?
[01:04] <HappyFool> dupondje: i recommend gparted; gui interface to this thing
[01:04] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: No I did not. I just typed "./configure" as it told me to do on the installation documentation.
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: is openq the thing you compiled?
[01:05] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Yes it is.
[01:05] <prateek> hi , i have the motherboard that the link: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8TM-ILSR&class=mb describes. I do not have any external graphic card
[01:05] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey dont shoot me, but what was that mount command again? its not remembered by terminal or me :$
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: ah
[01:05] <intelikey> lol
[01:05] <prateek> someone please tell me which is the graphic driver which i have to use for X to run well
[01:05] <ThePyromaniac> mount -o something
[01:05] <dupondje> No Implementation: This ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout!  Parted can't resize this (yet).
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: look in /usr/local and see if you can find your compiled plugin or whatever there
[01:05] <intemr> deem, i cant access my mounted windows hard drive with my own user, only with root, but how can i give access to that directory to my own user??
[01:06] <nipplesrulz> this is so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:06] <intelikey> mount /dev/sda5 /home/ThePyromaniac/someplace -o loop     :)
[01:06] <ThePyromaniac> inemr use root to give 755 privilages on the hdd
[01:06] <prateek> ubuntu by default has set it as vesa which i feel is not appropriate
[01:06] <ThePyromaniac> thanks :D
[01:06] <intelikey> oh  add ,umask=0 to the end
[01:06] <Wimpie>  hi all, looking for xine-ui 0.99.4 which solves the right click crash
[01:06] <intelikey> mount /dev/sda5 /home/ThePyromaniac/someplace -o loop,umask=0     :)
[01:06] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you might need to do some linking to get it to work, or load it into gaim somehow - I don't know the plugin so I can't help with that
[01:07] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: did you read the README in the tarball? Or the INSATALL or whatever?
[01:07] <HappyFool> prateek: is any onboard graphics listed on that page ?
[01:07] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Under /usr/local/ all I have is /bin, /games, /include, /lib, /man, /sbin, /share, and /src, so no the plugin I compiled.
[01:07] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Yeah I read the INSTALL file, README was empty.
[01:07] <feugan3333> Is there a way I can find out which package a file if from, for example I want to know which package /etc/cupsd.conf if from.
[01:08] <feugan3333> Is there a way I can find out which package a file if from, for example I want to know which package /etc/cupsd.conf is from.
[01:08] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you might need to dig in those directories :)
[01:08] <HappyFool> Anchovie: did INSTALL start with 'These are generic instructions' or similar?
[01:08] <intemr> ThePyromaniac how??
[01:08] <Anchovie> HappyFool: Yep, how did you know?
[01:08] <intelikey> without the umask setting your user probably wont be able to access it. ThePyromaniac   and you should edit /etc/fstab and add a line "/dev/sda5 /<mount_point> vfat defaults,umask=0 0 0 "   <-- without the quotes so you don't have to mount it again......
[01:09] <ThePyromaniac> thanks intelikey, i decided i wanted my family to access our music repositry, but not ALL my media ;)
[01:09] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac
[01:09] <zyga> feugan3333: yes there is
[01:09] <zyga> feugan3333: dpkg-query -S file
[01:09] <ThePyromaniac> yea i did that ^^
[01:09] <HappyFool> Anchovie: means the authoer didn't actually write an INSTALL file ;)
[01:09] <intelikey> k
[01:09] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Kk, I found libqq.la and libqq.so under /usr/local/lib/gaim/
[01:09] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you will need info on how to enable the plugins
[01:10] <feugan3333> zyga: Thanks
[01:10] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I assume you put them in the gaim plugins directory, wherever that might be...
[01:10] <apoZ> wickedpuppy
[01:10] <thoreauputic> or link them
[01:10] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: And also QQWry.dat under /usr/local/share/gaim/; Alright, let me give that a try.
[01:11] <ThePyromaniac> NEXT QUESTION :p Anyone here got a good GBA Emulator?
[01:11] <apoZ> wickedpuppy I can't partition using Partition Magic
[01:11] <apoZ> it's not working
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: it may be possible to add plugins from the gaim GUI - I've never tried it
[01:11] <ThePyromaniac> i only intend to play games that i have purchased or made myself, and have no intend or voiding copyright laws
[01:11] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac i kinda knew what the purpose was.  i use a fat partition for that reason also.    there are ways of making an ext3 partition mount where all users can access it also.   but i find it easy to use vfat.
[01:11] <Savant0> anyone here know how to merge a bunch of word lists (in text files), sorting the words for frequency and then removing the duplicates?
[01:11] <prateek> Happy_Fool : i could not locate one
[01:11] <prateek> HappyFool : i could not locate one
[01:11] <apoZ> Can anyone tell me how to resize my partition of XP ??
[01:11] <HappyFool> prateek: kind of hard to guess what video driver to use ;)
[01:12] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey my family are all on windows, they are fools lol
[01:12] <HappyFool> prateek: maybe 'lspci' or 'lshw' will tell you something
[01:12] <ThePyromaniac> need fat32 for samba
[01:12] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac yep.
[01:12] <apoZ> Can anyone tell me how the resize my partition of XP ???
[01:12] <ThePyromaniac> just gotta work out how to set samba up now...
[01:12] <codenut> When I try to use ubuntu as a CUPS print server with my HP 712C, and I try to configure it as told with the web interface, I cannot
[01:12] <HappyFool> ThePyromaniac: i don't think that is correct; you don't need fat32 for samba
[01:12] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Do you happen to know where is the gaim plugins directory?
[01:12] <Jedrick> ey why is that when someone msg me on irc i dont recieve there msg, instead i see this on the active channel. "*EricKoston* nag pina piolo nasav"
[01:13] <ThePyromaniac> no i mean i need fat32 so windows pc can read and write to it
[01:13] <codenut> Get it to allow me. It says the security is set and will not allow me access.
[01:13] <intelikey> apoZ ues xp's partition tool.....
[01:13] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: hang on a sec
[01:13] <prateek> HappyFool: hmm...
[01:13] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Thank you.
[01:13] <HappyFool> codenut: maybe   system -> admin -> printers?
[01:13] <codenut> It
[01:13] <codenut> It is all set up there Happy
[01:13] <apoZ> intelikey where can i find it?
[01:14] <apoZ> intelikey ??
[01:14] <HappyFool> codenut: my best guess, sorry
[01:14] <codenut> OK.
[01:14] <intelikey> apoZ i'll be shooting in the dark again but i think when xp boots you can [f8]  to it .....   ask someone that knows xp.
[01:15] <sedeki> can i upgrade g++ to 3.4 ?
[01:15] <apoZ> Does anyone know where to find partition tool of XP ?
[01:15] <aljon> hi to all!
[01:15] <ongster> hello.  how do I update my skype to the latest version?  I downloaded the latest package already but an error message appears
[01:15] <ongster> when i start installing it
[01:15] <xophEr> you guys know why I cant change the ubuntu-logo in the gnome-panel to something else? Ive tried replacing and renaming the /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png but no effect.. worked before though, dont know why it doesnt work know.. all I did was a dist-upgrade :)
[01:15] <ThePyromaniac> apoz or you can use your windows installation cd
[01:15] <prateek> HappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2912
[01:15] <sedeki> ongster how do you install it?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: try dpkg -L gaim
[01:16] <prateek> HappyFool: take a look at i have the lspci out put there http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2912
[01:16] <ptraguany> hola
[01:16] <ongster> used the dpkg -i command
[01:16] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: there are quite  a few .so files there - might give you some clues
[01:16] <sedeki> ongster you need to make it know you're upgrading a package
[01:16] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: Kk, I see it now, thanks.
[01:16] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: that command tells you what files the gaim package installed
[01:17] <apoZ> ThePyromaniac How can i partition using the CD ?
[01:17] <ongster> sedeki, how do i do that?
[01:17] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: but not your compiled stuff - dpkg doesn't knowabout those
[01:17] <intelikey> @!ntfs
[01:17] <sedeki> ongster remove the old skype
[01:17] <intelikey> !@ntfs
[01:17] <ubotu> intelikey: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:17] <ThePyromaniac> apoz: Pretend you are going ton install windows, you can set up partitions for installation, then you just play with the partition tool on there
[01:17] <intelikey> [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem
[01:17] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: I suggest in future if you compile something, use the checkinstall tool to make a .deb
[01:17] <intelikey>           normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can
[01:17] <intelikey>           use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS
[01:17] <intelikey>           and FAT32 partitions.
[01:17] <HappyFool> prateek: some sort of generic VIA VGA device, it looks like. maybe you can use google to see if there's a good config; i don't know how much improvement you're going to get
[01:18] <intelikey> arrr that don't help....
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: you can install checkinstall from the universe repository
[01:18] <Anchovie> thoreauputic: I tried to move the file to /usr/lib/gaim/ and it says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[01:18] <apoZ> ThePyromaniac I tried that, but can I do : C ; Partitioned  Delete ?
[01:18] <apoZ> won't i lose all my files ?
[01:18] <ongster> sedeki the error message appeared even before i installed the older version
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: right, you need to use sudo
[01:18] <ThePyromaniac> sorry i have no idea, lol. only half remember the tool
[01:18] <apoZ> ok
[01:18] <apoZ> i'll try
[01:19] <intelikey> apoZ yes any deleted partition looses all data.
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: all system files require root privileges
[01:19] <sedeki> ongster don't install the older version, just remove the old one. dpkg --remove
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Anchovie: also you might really need to symlink rather than move them
[01:19] <ongster> ok. i'll do that
[01:20] <DNAku-san> hi
[01:20] <HappyFool> thoreauputic, Anchovie: standby
[01:20] <HappyFool> Anchovie: check this link: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q93
[01:20] <DNAku-san> I'm trying to get foomatic-gui to work on a minimalistic installation of ubuntu
 thoreauputic: I tried to move the file to /usr/lib/gaim/ and it says <--- says you didnt "sudo"   :)
[01:20] <DNAku-san> but I seem to be getting an error when executing foomatic-gui
[01:20] <HappyFool> Anchovie: link the plugin to ~/.gaim/plugins/ (you'll need to mkdir ~/.gaim/plugins first)
[01:21] <DNAku-san> http://users.telenet.be/icyanime/avas/foomatic-gui-error.txt
[01:21] <DNAku-san> I installed most of the gtkhtml packages but I'm still getting the error
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey how do i unmount sda5 from /home/bla/media/ so i can remount to home/bla/media/music?
[01:21] <thoreauputic> intelikey: am I lagged or are you not reading my posts?
[01:21] <sedeki> ThePyromaniac umount /dev/sda5
[01:21] <DNAku-san> my ubuntu installation is getting less and less minimalistic
[01:21] <intelikey> unmount /dev/sda5
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> aha thanks
[01:22] <sedeki> intelikey umount
[01:22] <DNAku-san> so what package contains the gtkhtml2 module?
[01:22] <intelikey> sedeki yeah///
[01:22] <thoreauputic> OK time to sign off - good luck Anchovie :) night all ...
[01:22] <HappyFool> DNAku-san: packages.ubunt.com has a file search utility
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> error message "umount: /home/phil/media: device is busy"
[01:22] <HappyFool> oops
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> good night friend
[01:22] <HappyFool> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:22] <DNAku-san> ok HappyFool
[01:23] <nas_> later
[01:23] <sedeki> ThePyromaniac you have to cd out of that dir and not access it from anything. use umount -f /dev/sda5 to force unmoutning
[01:23] <mantikor> or umount -l /dev/sda5
[01:24] <krolden> I enabled main, universe and multiverse in sources.list, but it still doesn't find transcode.  Any ideas of what I'm doing wrong?
[01:24] <intelikey> it shouldn't need force....    but it will need sudo umount /dev/sda5
[01:24] <mantikor> i there anybody who could help me with thunderbird under hoary?
[01:24] <HappyFool> krolden: is transcode available in hoary?
[01:24] <mantikor> i am running thunderbird 1.0.6
[01:24] <sedeki> you often forget to cd out of the mountpoint before unmounting..
[01:24] <mantikor> there was a glitch and i lost my whole profile - the mail folder included
[01:24] <mantikor>  is there any way to fix it?
[01:24] <ThePyromaniac> i cd to / and did the command. now says the old error message as well as "umount2: Device or resource busy"
[01:25] <sedeki> ThePyromaniac you have something else accessing it..
[01:25] <mantikor> try the -l option
[01:25] <Seveas> goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu!
[01:25] <HappyFool> yello Seveas
[01:25] <ThePyromaniac> the only other thing going on is im downloading breezy packages to upgrade
[01:25] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac lsof | grep -e'/dev/sda5'
[01:25] <HappyFool> still morning in .nl ?
[01:25] <Seveas> well, no
[01:25] <krolden> HappyFool: gtranscode is, so it would seem logic that transcode is available too, but the package "transcode" doesn't appear when doing a search on packages.ubuntu.com though
[01:26] <HappyFool> ;)
[01:26] <Seveas> but in my head it is :)
[01:26] <Anchovie> How do I use "sudo" command to copy a file from one dir to another?
[01:26] <cas> Is there any reason boot-admin has disapered?
[01:26] <Seveas> cas, yes, it fucks up the ubuntu-specific menu.lst
[01:26] <sedeki> Anchovie sudo cp /file1 /dir1/file1_copy
[01:26] <apokryphos> Anchovie: man cp
[01:26] <HappyFool> krolden: i should have phrased that 'i don't think transcode is available in hoary'
[01:26] <mantikor> sudo cp /folder1/file /folder2/file
[01:26] <intelikey> Anchovie sudo cp <file> <dir>
[01:26] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey not sure what it was meant to do but i did that command and then reran umount and same error ^^
[01:27] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, lsof | grep /path/to/mountpoint
[01:27] <intelikey> it was supposed to tell you what was keeping it busy ThePyromaniac
[01:27] <ThePyromaniac> ahh i see
[01:27] <ThePyromaniac> well it said nothing ^^
[01:27] <Seveas> intelikey, lsof of the dev node won't help
[01:27] <intelikey> yes try the mount point.
[01:27] <Seveas> lsof of the mountpoint is more useful :)
[01:28] <nipplesrulz> ok
[01:28] <sedeki> Seveas "lsof" is kind of a new program isn't it?
[01:28] <nipplesrulz> would someone mind telling me how to create a link from my desktop to my second hdd? i believe its a symbolic link im trying to make?
[01:28] <HappyFool> you can irc via tor ?
[01:28] <ThePyromaniac> apparently trash is using it, and i have some folders open...
[01:28] <Seveas> sedeki, not at all
[01:28] <Seveas> HappyFool, yes, on freenode
[01:28] <cas> Seveas: installing a new kernel also does
[01:28] <Seveas> but not in #ubuntu :)
[01:28] <intelikey> kinda new as in in the last 20 years
[01:29] <cas> Seveas, thats why i need it, to fix it
[01:29] <Seveas> cas, only if you have used the boot-admin tool
[01:29] <cas> Seveas, Aah ok, that explains
[01:29] <sedeki> lsof isn't gnu is it
[01:29] <zyga> nipplesrulz: cd ~/Desktop && ln -s /your-second-hdd
[01:29] <krolden> HappyFool: I find it weird that gtranscode is available in Hoary, while its dependency (transcode) is not.  Oh well, upgrade to Breezy it is :)
[01:29] <Seveas> cas, put your current menu.lst and the output of sudo fdisk -l and ls /boot on the pastebin
[01:29] <cas> Seveas, tnx alot. Now i can let my sister upgrade withouth so much hassle :)
[01:29] <ThePyromaniac> can i make it stop doing whatever its doing?
[01:30] <zyga> nipplesrulz: note that you should probably mount your second drive :)
[01:30] <zyga> nipplesrulz: if it's an external USB drive just plugginig it in should work
[01:30] <cas> Seveas, It's all setup correctly now. so no need, tnx anyway
[01:30] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac probably, what's it doing ?
[01:30] <sedeki> Seveas do you know how to force upgrade 3.4 ?
[01:30] <Seveas> ok :)
[01:30] <sedeki> g++
[01:30] <nipplesrulz> yes ive mounted it to /mnt/sakura
[01:30] <Seveas> sedeki, apt-get install g++3.4 :)
[01:30] <Seveas> g++-3.4 even
[01:30] <sedeki> that easy, huh
[01:30] <ThePyromaniac> it said trash stuff, so i emptied trash. now... game_serv is only thing there
[01:31] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, pkill gam_server
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> thanks
[01:31] <digis___> i
[01:31] <sedeki> Seveas how does it know which version to use? the environment var is changed to 3.4, and so is the defaults?
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> still 2 listings left with game-serv
[01:31] <sedeki> are the defaults*
[01:31] <nipplesrulz> so for the link do i need to say /mnt/sakura ? or just /dev/hdd1 ?
[01:32] <Seveas> sedeki, that depends on the makefile of your souftware...
[01:32] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac sudo killall gam-serv
[01:32] <HappyFool> pill -9 gam_server
[01:32] <HappyFool> oops
[01:32] <HappyFool> pkill
[01:32] <ProN00b> when will breezy be in final ?
[01:32] <Seveas> 13 oct.
[01:32] <sedeki> Seveas what do you mean, it has a absolute path?
[01:32] <ProN00b> i can't wait
[01:32] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey when i do that it says no proccess killed, then i still got 2 when i check :(
[01:33] <Seveas> sedeki, /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0 (same for g++)
[01:33] <zyga> ProN00b: soon
[01:33] <HappyFool> gam_server -- make sure you spell it correctly
[01:33] <zyga> sedeki: check update-alternatives
[01:33] <ThePyromaniac> i am :D
[01:33] <Seveas> makefile usually use the environment variables $CC and $CXX to determine the C and C++ compilers
[01:33] <sedeki> Seveas ok, oh well.
[01:33] <goh> May I know how I can add a repositry in synaptic that looks for my hoary cd for updating in my cdrw? Currently, It looks for it in the cdrom
[01:33] <intelikey> ah it's controled by xinit .   it may not be accessable to init .......
[01:34] <ThePyromaniac> still got two left after "sudo killall gam_server"
[01:34] <Seveas> goh, the mountpoint of the cd can be specified in apt.conf (see man apt.conf)
[01:34] <zyga> sedeki: apt-get install galternatives :)
[01:35] <Seveas> zyga, gcc/g++ symlinks are not controlled by the alternatives system :(
[01:35] <benkong2> !breezy repos
[01:35] <ubotu> benkong2: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:35] <Seveas> !tell benkong about sources
[01:35] <zyga> Seveas: ah
[01:35] <benkong2> thanks Seveas
[01:35] <ongster> sedeki, i did what you told me.  a dependency error came up.  it says that i have a different version of libqt3c102-mt installed
[01:36] <benkong2> !sources
[01:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:37] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey any ideas? i still got 2 proccess running after killing gam_server
[01:37] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: I'll keep spawining back
[01:37] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac "sudo top "  and see if you can find them in there.
[01:38] <nipplesrulz> ok! the last thing i think i need tonight is some form of gui ftp client!
[01:38] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: I'd do a pkill gam_server && do-whatever-you-need-while-it's-gone
[01:38] <[LethAL] > nipplesrulz gftp
[01:38] <nipplesrulz> does apt-get work automagically?
[01:38] <[LethAL] > nipplesrulz, in what sense?
[01:38] <ThePyromaniac> aha ok
[01:38] <sedeki> Seveas if i'd want gtk+ 2.4 ?
[01:38] <Anchovie> Is there anyway to type other languages on Ubuntu 5.10RC?
[01:38] <nipplesrulz> well
[01:39] <nipplesrulz> i tried to sudo apt-get install gftp and i get a big PACKAGE not FOUND error XD
[01:39] <zyga> Anchovie: what do you mean?
[01:39] <[LethAL] > Anchovie, System, Administration, Languages iirc
[01:39] <bloodnik> I can't get sound but I don't know where to start looking for the problem. I restarted ALSA with no errors.
[01:39] <zyga> nipplesrulz: you need to set up your repositories, check synaptic - it's easier
[01:40] <bloodnik> I just installed beep media player. And yes, I told it to use ALSA :p
[01:40] <intelikey> bloodnik unmute it ?
[01:40] <flam> hey. have anyone noticed that evolution that comes with breezy doesn't show your email in your inbox (I use imap). When i select the Inbox catalog, it's empty in the spaces to the right. Yes, i've got mail on the inbox..
[01:40] <nipplesrulz> can i just use the debian repositories zyga ?
[01:40] <dodgyville> Has anyone had any trouble with the 8139 drivers in breezy?
[01:40] <bloodnik> intelikey, :P
[01:40] <bloodnik> It's not muted.
[01:40] <zyga> nipplesrulz: use ubuntu repos
[01:40] <intelikey> jus' checkin'
[01:40] <zyga> nipplesrulz: unless you really know why you want debian repos
[01:41] <ThePyromaniac> zyga interlikey right that wokrs by doing both at same time, my next problem is that it says it is mounted multiple times
[01:41] <nipplesrulz> ah
[01:41] <ThePyromaniac> this is because i didnt unmount before i tried to mount
[01:41] <ThePyromaniac> my own stupid fault. how do i get round this? lol
[01:41] <nipplesrulz> i didnt find for instance azureus in there... i suppose i might have to do manual install of something like that?
[01:41] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: umount it
[01:41] <goh> Seveas: I'm afraid that I'm still very green to this. Can I have more guidance?
[01:41] <zyga> nipplesrulz: azureus is a java application
[01:41] <zyga> nipplesrulz: you could check this: (/me looks)
[01:41] <ThePyromaniac> i am typing " sudo pkill gam_server && umount /dev/sda5"
[01:42] <HappyFool> !tell nipplesrulz about azureus
[01:42] <zyga> !tell zyga about man
[01:43] <ThePyromaniac> zyga sudo pkill gam_server && umount /dev/sda5 does not work, it says its mountedm ultiple tmies
[01:43] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[01:43] <da_bon_bon> anything i must take care of, before upgrading to breezy ?
[01:43] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: strange, can you umount the mount point without killing the gam_server?
[01:43] <ThePyromaniac> no because it says that it is busy
[01:43] <Anchovie> How do you switch to another input method to type other languages?
[01:44] <zyga> lsof | grep /your/mount/point
[01:44] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: what does that show?
[01:44] <ThePyromaniac> zyga it IS mounted many times, as i didnt unmount before mounting. i mounted it to one location, then decided i wanted it mounted to a folder within that location
[01:44] <nipplesrulz> yeah i just started looking at the repositories in symanitc and it listed multivers // etc types~! *goes searching again*
[01:44] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: then umount the inner location first
[01:44] <ThePyromaniac> i figured that, and still no luck lol
[01:45] <zyga> hmm try -f
[01:45] <zyga> force umount
[01:45] <goh> Any1 know how to set the mount point for cdrom uri using "apt.conf"?
[01:45] <ThePyromaniac> zyga think it works
[01:45] <HappyFool> Anchovie: try system -> preferences -> keyboard layout, and add a keyboard layout there
[01:45] <dodgyville> Is acpi enabled on breezy by default? even on desktops?
[01:45] <ThePyromaniac> good, i did it 4 times untill it started saying its not mounted :D
[01:45] <zyga> goh: check the gnome-software-properties
[01:45] <dodgyville> And how do I tell?
[01:46] <intelikey> ThePyromaniac i'd probably kill what ever was accessing it (gam-serv) and do what needed to be done and restart the 'gam-serv' or what ever it is.     something like " sudo /etc/init.d/gam-serv (if there is such a thing) stop && sudo umount /dev/sda5 "
[01:46] <da_bon_bon> if i upgrade to breezy, will kernel if auto updated ? if not, how do i manually update it ?
[01:46] <HappyFool> Anchovie: then rightclick on a panel (bar at top or bottom), choose 'add to panel' and choose 'keyboard indicator' from the list
[01:46] <zyga> da_bon_bon: it will be updated automatically
[01:46] <dodgyville> And how do I disable it?
[01:46] <Ed_Gein> Does anyone run the  soulseek client Nicotine?
[01:46] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey thanks but doing "sudo pkill gam_server && sudo umount -f /dev/sda5" has worked like a charm
[01:46] <goh> zyga: where do I do that? Sorry, I'm newbie
[01:46] <da_bon_bon> zyga: ok.. someone told me kernels are not auto updated by apt
[01:46] <nipplesrulz> zyga, i added the other 2 repositories and selected all 4 types... it immediately suggested i upgrade lots of things.. any real danger here? and can i change my primary repository to include all 4 types as well?
[01:47] <intelikey> k  i was typing when you posted..... ThePyromaniac .
[01:47] <zyga> goh: you can run the upgrade manager system->administration->upgrade manager, and click on preferences button
[01:47] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey i understand mate, so thanks :D
[01:47] <intelikey> i lag here.   on dialup.
[01:47] <Anchovie> HappyFool: K thanks, but the key board layout doesn't seem to have Asian Character supports...
[01:47] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey that sucks man, heh
[01:47] <zyga> da_bon_bon: that depends on configuration, they are updated in ubuntu
[01:47] <bloodnik> nipplesrulz, to upgrade to breezy you'll probably have to download about 500MB of new packages.
[01:47] <bloodnik> nipplesrulz, that's going to be a lot of packages.
[01:47] <zyga> nipplesrulz: what types?
[01:47] <da_bon_bon> ok, zyga .. where is the option located ?
[01:47] <ThePyromaniac> you arent gonna belive this... i forgot to add that mount command to my little text file full of commands i can never remember
[01:48] <bloodnik> ThePyromaniac: scroll up!
[01:48] <zyga> da_bon_bon: after clicking on the preferences button you should see a window with 'add cd' button on the right
[01:48] <nipplesrulz> zyga,  im not totally familiar with the groupings here let me look again...
[01:48] <da_bon_bon> ok, thanks, zyga
[01:48] <zyga> da_bon_bon: but I'm running breezy and maybe it's not there in hoary
[01:48] <ThePyromaniac> bloodnik thanks, but this IRC program (perhaps all IRC programs) remove top lines as new are enterted
[01:48] <HappyFool> Anchovie: hmm. sorry, not sure about that.
[01:48] <zyga> da_bon_bon: why are you trying to add a cd disk to your apt configuration anyway?
[01:49] <ThePyromaniac> bloodnik and seeing as i reset each time he saus it, it is hard to scroll up ^^
[01:49] <goh> zyga: ok, done that. My hoary cd is in my cdrw drv, hw do I set the manager to look for it in my cdrw?
[01:49] <bloodnik> ThePyromaniac,  "sudo pkill gam_server && sudo umount -f /dev/sda5"
[01:49] <da_bon_bon> zyga: no.. i meant, where is the option to set whether apt updates kernels or no.
[01:49] <zyga> Anchovie: you can get any language support
[01:49] <ThePyromaniac> bloodnik that would be an UNmount commant
[01:49] <nipplesrulz> zyga, main restricted universe multiverse <-= those types
[01:49] <zyga> Anchovie: are you using breezy or hoary?
[01:49] <ThePyromaniac> command*
[01:49] <bloodnik> oh the mount! Sorry ^_^
[01:49] <zyga> nipplesrulz: ah, those are called sections AFAIR
[01:49] <intelikey> speaking of phone.   i need to logoff and make a call.   lol ThePyromaniac if it is in etc/fstab  then "sudo mount <mount_point> "  else  "sudo mount <device> <mount_point> "   <---- please learn that :)
[01:49] <bloodnik> ThePyromaniac, what were you mounting?
[01:50] <zyga> nipplesrulz: are you just trying to install azureus or doing a breezy upgrade too?
[01:50] <ThePyromaniac> intelikey ok, remembered. its just the extra parameters and unmask, etc
[01:50] <ThePyromaniac> confused me
[01:50] <da_bon_bon> ok guys
[01:50] <da_bon_bon> cya later
[01:50] <da_bon_bon> :)
[01:50] <bloodnik> :)
[01:50] <intelikey> and ThePyromaniac you just add "u"    to unmount them....
[01:50] <ThePyromaniac> thanks ^^
[01:50] <goh> zyga: when I click add cdrom, the system fails to mount my cdrom. That's cos my cdrom is faulty. I want the manager to llok for the cd in my working cdrw drv
[01:50] <nipplesrulz> zyga, cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release Candidate i386 (20051005)] /dists/breezy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  universe/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) <-= that error on trying for the basic repository
[01:51] <nipplesrulz> im gonna install azureus but i might as well update everything while im at it :)
[01:51] <intelikey> yes ThePyromaniac for vfat fs's -o umask=o for all to access them.
[01:51] <zyga> nipplesrulz: run from command line: sudo apt-get update
[01:51] <zyga> nipplesrulz: check the results
[01:51] <intelikey> errr umask=0
[01:51] <ThePyromaniac> and where does that go? :$
[01:51] <Anchovie> zyga: Breezy, 5.10RC.
[01:51] <intelikey> hehhe.   anywhere on the line
[01:51] <zyga> goh: what do you mean by 'my cdrom is faulty'
[01:52] <nipplesrulz> it still can't find the universe repository lol
[01:52] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/sda5 /bob -o umask=0
[01:52] <goh> My cdrom is connected and detected to my system. But it can't be mounted. It's spoilt
[01:52] <ThePyromaniac> thanks
[01:52] <zyga> Anchovie: then check the language-selector tool, system->admin->language-selector
[01:52] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/sda5 -o umask=0 /bob
[01:52] <intelikey> sudo mount -o umask=0 /dev/sda5 /bob
[01:52] <pragup> Hi , whenever i try to play any video files in mplayer , vlc or anyother video player the cpu usage shoots up to drastically, can someone suggest a solution . this is my xorg.conf file  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2913
[01:52] <zyga> Anchovie: make sure to install support packages, they will enable you to type in all kinds of characters
[01:53] <intelikey> all the same.
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> it works! thanks guys :D
[01:53] <intelikey> see yall.   good day and God bless.
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> now, time to upgrade to breezy to get another 100 problems
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> have a good day friend
[01:53] <Anchovie> zyga: Yeah I did the System -> Admin -> Language Selector already, but I'm having troubling finding a way to input the languages.
[01:53] <mahangu_> can i have different wallpapers for my desktops?
[01:53] <ThePyromaniac> yup
[01:53] <zyga> Anchovie: what language is that in particular?
[01:54] <ThePyromaniac> mahangu_ go to System ->Prefferences -> Desktop Background
[01:54] <zyga> Anchovie: I've checked with japanese last time
[01:54] <nipplesrulz> zyga, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[01:54] <nipplesrulz> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it? <-= seems to be the 2 main errors
[01:54] <Anchovie> zyga: Chinese.
[01:54] <zyga> mahangu_: right-click on your desktop
[01:54] <zyga> nipplesrulz: you are running two package managers at the same time, close synaptic if that's what you are running too
[01:55] <ThePyromaniac> any way to use command line to remove any file that is not a mp3? bloody windows with their folder.jpgs,thumb.db and desktop.ini files
[01:55] <zyga> Anchovie: there are some X input methods stuff as well, maybe that's what gave me all the extra features
[01:55] <nipplesrulz> ah ok... well i told symantic to just do what it wants.. ill do upgrade // update when its done then thanx
[01:55] <zyga> Anchovie: I don't remember sorry
[01:55] <ThePyromaniac> i have 150 folders that i want to remove 20ish files from, lol
[01:55] <mahangu_> ThePyromaniac, zyga : i mean in each of my four "virtual" desktops
[01:55] <ongster> oh well, so much for upgrading skype.  bye all
[01:56] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: find -name 'desktop.ini' -o -name 'thumb.db' | xargs rm -v
[01:56] <tjonahen> Hi I get a dmesg entry saying Mousepad resume bug workaround hopefully not needed, But i need is as my mouse goes awalk. How do I get de workaround?
[01:56] <ThePyromaniac> could be fun :D
[01:56] <zyga> mahangu_: you want different wallpapers for each desktop?
[01:56] <benkong2> !auto-apt
[01:56] <ubotu> benkong2: Wish i knew
[01:56] <benkong2> !checkinstall
[01:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:57] <Belutz> how to check ports already being used?
[01:57] <ThePyromaniac> zyga how about adding to that, if a file begins with AlbumArt?
[01:57] <zyga> benkong2: how can I check what ubotu can do/say?
[01:58] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: -o -name 'AlbumArt*'
[01:58] <ThePyromaniac> kick-ass thanks
[01:58] <benkong2> zyga, use the ! and the topic
[01:58] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: add that right before | xargs
[01:58] <Anchovie> zyga: Np, I think I see it in the Synaptic. How did you switch between input methods though?
[01:58] <benkong2> zyga,
[01:58] <dooglus> !tell ubotu about testing himself
[01:58] <benkong2> sorry that's not what u asked
[01:58] <zyga> Anchovie: there is a new context menu item after you install additional input methods
[01:58] <zyga> Anchovie: and another toolbar that floats around
[01:59] <zyga> Anchovie: very similar to tools I've seen on windows xp with japanese support
[01:59] <wrabbit01>  Hi everybody.... does anybody own a TOSHIBA SATELITTE PRO 460 or  T20 thinkpad?
[01:59] <zyga> !laptop support
[01:59] <ubotu> zyga: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:59] <pragup> Hi , whenever i try to play any video files in mplayer , vlc or anyother video player the cpu usage shoots up to drastically, can someone suggest a solution . this is my xorg.conf file  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2913
[01:59] <dooglus> ubotu, tell ubotu about ubotu
[02:00] <zyga> !tell about laptop support
[02:00] <Belutz> stop playing with the bot
[02:00] <dooglus> I thought that made him tell you about the #debian-bots channel where you can play with him.
[02:01] <dooglus> aah.  it's:
[02:01] <dooglus> !botabuse
[02:01] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[02:01] <dooglus> right.
[02:02] <ThePyromaniac> zyga you seem to be good at this stuff, how about if a file contains a "-" remove anything before that the "-" ^^
[02:02] <zyga> pragup: use a specific driver for your graphics card
[02:02] <zyga> pragup: you are now using 'vesa' which is very generic, what kind of card do you have?
[02:02] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: what if the file contains two "-"s?
[02:03] <ThePyromaniac> zyga then i can automate the entire proccess, as some of my old collection has artist name - track and i want them all to be just track
[02:03] <ThePyromaniac> dooglus it wont :D
[02:03] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: that's trickier: do you want to remove stuff after first or last '-'
[02:03] <dooglus> ThePyromaniac: will the "-" be on a line on its own?
[02:03] <dooglus> zyga: it's only got one "-"
[02:03] <ThePyromaniac> well to play safe just the first -
[02:03] <pragup> zyga: i have no extra graphics card installed instead i have the default onboard graphics card installed
[02:04] <ThePyromaniac> even better, if we did a find looking for anythign with x2 - then we'd know :D
[02:04] <benkong2> why does this command "auto-apt updatedb && auto-apt update-local" tell me this? "E: You need write permission for /var/cache/auto-apt"
[02:05] <tombs> hi all
[02:05] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: find -name '*-*' -exec mv '{}' '`echo "{}" | sed 's/$.*-//'`'
[02:05] <Tema1> hi all
[02:05] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: but I'm not 100% sure, be sure to backup your stuff
[02:05] <zyga> ah wait
[02:05] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: find -name '*-*' -exec mv '{}' '`echo "{}" | sed 's/$.*-//'`' \;
[02:05] <Tema1> can anyone please advise on how to switch keyboard layouts?
[02:05] <benkong2> hi tombs and Temal
[02:05] <zyga> pragup: could you do lspci and msg me the result
[02:05] <Tema1> i installed 5.04 and have english and russian as my languages
[02:06] <hakan> Hello everyone.  It seems my ubuntu installation installed LILO to boot linux by default. How do I fix so I get a menu with the choice windows or linux at boot?
[02:06] <HappyFool> benkong2: i'm not familiar with 'auto-apt', but you probably need 'sudo'
[02:06] <zyga> benkong2: you need to use sudo
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> and how do i add the hoary-extras repository to my symantic please :)
[02:06] <dooglus> zyga: you said the file contained a "-".
[02:06] <zyga> Tema1: add a language selector to your panel
[02:06] <Tema1> i see - thanks
[02:06] <benkong2> ok, its just that the wiki docs indicate this is not run as sudo but I shall comply
[02:06] <dooglus> zyga: did you mean the file*name* contained a "-"?  because that's different
[02:06] <benkong2> thanks
[02:06] <ThePyromaniac> zyga lol ok thanks, i will just do that part manually :D
[02:07] <HappyFool> zyga: is there a language selector in hoary?
[02:07] <zyga> HappyFool: no
[02:07] <benkong2> HappyFool, zyga; u r correct thanks
[02:07] <zyga> dooglus: hmm?
[02:07] <Anchovie> zyga: K, I installed xsim, the X Simple Input Method, which allows me to "input Chinese in X windows system with PinYin
[02:07] <Anchovie> and WuBi input method". But the problem is I don't know how to initiate xsim, any idea?
[02:07] <ThePyromaniac> thanks zyga and dooglus, bye!
[02:08] <hakan> How do I reinstall grub or LILO so it recognizes both my partitions (windows xp and ubuntu) ? Right now it only starts up to the ubuntu partition.
[02:08] <dooglus> zyga: he said "zyga you seem to be good at this stuff, how about if a file contains a "-" remove anything before [...] ".  the file contains a "-", not the filename.
[02:08] <HappyFool> Tema1: try system -> preferences -> keyboard -> layouts -> add, and look for 'Russian' in the list. You can add a 'keyboard layout indicator' to the gnome-panel (right-click panel, choose 'add to panel' and look for that name)
[02:08] <flam> have anyone experienced any problem with evolution not wanna show your imap emails? i can't get evolution to show them
[02:08] <pragup> zyga: here is the lspci out put  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2914
[02:08] <zyga> dooglus: ah... then I've misunderstood that
[02:08] <[LethAL] > hakan, probably "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[02:09] <dooglus> zyga: he might have asked the wrong question - maybe you answered what he meant to ask!  :)
[02:09] <hakan> [LethAL] , and this will automatically find all my partitions etc?
[02:09] <zyga> pragup: your card is not recognized
[02:09] <[LethAL] > hakan, It -should- find you Windows one
[02:09] <zyga> pragup: is that a laptop system?
[02:09] <[LethAL] > your*
[02:09] <zyga> dooglus: maybe :)
[02:11] <hakan> [LethAL] , "command not cound". maybe only LILO is installed
[02:11] <[LethAL] > hakan, problem. I don't know anything about configuring lilo
[02:11] <nipplesrulz> >> zyga  :)
[02:11] <pragup> zyga: not a laptop , it is msi m/b based on kbtm series
[02:12] <zyga> pragup: so thats some built-in graphics card then, right?
[02:12] <pragup> zyga: exactly
[02:13] <zyga> pragup: you could theck what kind of chipset that card is using but I'd say it's not going to work really
[02:13] <LokeDK> Hi. I'm using breezy and having issues with compiling the vmware vmmon kernel module. It says Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[02:13] <LokeDK> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[02:13] <LokeDK> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[02:13] <LokeDK> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.plwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[02:13] <zyga> pragup: could you do: sudo lspci -v
[02:13] <[LethAL] > LokeDK, please don't paste
[02:13] <zyga> pragup: and just paste the part about your VGA compatible stuff
[02:13] <zyga> (pastebin paste)
[02:13] <stianj> isn't dri supposed to work with ATI R300 cards on breezy now?
[02:15] <LokeDK> I'm not gonna use pastebin for like 3 lines
[02:15] <Dario_> Hi all. I see gamin (gam_server) is still causing problems (impossible to umount some unused devices). How to permanently kill gam_server ? grep -r "gam_server" /etc/ is empty, so where and when does it get launched ?
[02:16] <dooglus> Dario_: look in the gnome session
[02:16] <dooglus> system->preferences->sessions
[02:16] <Dario_> dooglus: I am using Kubuntu...
[02:16] <Dario_> dooglus: is there a similar setting for KDE ?
[02:16] <dooglus> Dario_: then you're in the wrong channel...
[02:16] <Dario_> oops, sorry :)
[02:16] <dooglus> #kubuntu know about kubuntu
[02:16] <pragup> zyga: lspci -v output http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2915
[02:16] <zyga> Dario_: AFAIK it may be launched by some programs that need its services
[02:16] <Dario_> dooglus: makes sense, thank you :)
[02:18] <dooglus> I downloaded the latest version firefox from the mozilla CVS and built it.  It used 800Mb of disk space - that's huge!
[02:19] <Anchovie> I just installed WINE from the Synaptic, how do I start it?
[02:19] <zyga> pragup: I'm sorry I don't know anything about that card, try googling :/
[02:19] <zyga> Anchovie: run 'wine' on command line
[02:20] <Anchovie> zyga: I'm sorry I'm new to Linux, so I do just type "wine" in the terminal?
[02:21] <zyga> Anchovie: yes, but I really don't know why you want to run wine on its own
[02:21] <hakan> [LethAL] , do you know any graphical tool that edits my LILO conf file ?
[02:21] <grogoreo> hi
[02:21] <ProN00b> Anchovie, its "wine programm.exe"
[02:21] <kent> what is the name of the meta-package which gives me lots of complilers? I forgot it :(
[02:22] <ProN00b> zyga, did you notice how you were Not helping ?
[02:23] <grogoreo> I forgot to mount my home partiton when installing ubuntu. In fstab should I just add   /dev/hda2       /home     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:24] <zyga> ProN00b: feel free to do a better job
[02:24] <zyga> Anchovie: installing wine should enable you to just click on an .exe file to launch it automatically
[02:24] <ProN00b> i think i did, zyga
[02:24] <fretrunner> hallo
[02:25] <ProN00b> thats better, zyga
[02:25] <str> hello people, i have here breezy preview... once the official release is released, can i easily update it?
[02:25] <Anchovie> zyga: Yeah that's what I did, I installed xwine and wine packages from Synaptic and I thought I'd get an "EXE" like executable but I didn't.
[02:25] <zyga> str: yes, just use update manager or any other tool you use for upgrades
[02:26] <ProN00b> there is xwine on synaptic ?!?!
[02:26] <zyga> Anchovie: did you use wine from the wine repository or the one from the ubuntu repository?
[02:26] <str> great zyga - so that means no need to wait until 13; i can go ahead and just update it as normal
[02:26] <zyga> str: basically - yes
[02:26] <str> there would be no difference at all?
[02:27] <zyga> str: less downloading if you just wait and upgrade after it's released
[02:27] <Anchovie> zyga: The one from Ubuntu repository.
[02:27] <str> as in my preview once updated will be perfectly same as newly installed breezy final?
[02:27] <str> i got the cd already ready here
[02:27] <str> i just want to make sure, i got the greatest scenario :)
[02:27] <zyga> Anchovie: strange, I've got an association with .exe files - are you using gnome or some other desktop environment?
[02:28] <Anchovie> zyga: Yes I'm using GNOME.
[02:28] <zyga> str: yes, you should have got the same thing
[02:28] <ccooke> str: it's possible there will be some small differences, but it's unlikely anything major.
[02:28] <str> ccooke: small difference in what way? this is what i want to make sure...
[02:29] <vladuz976> anybody know how to get japanese input method?
[02:29] <zyga> str: from all those upgrades
[02:29] <zyga> str: maybe leftover files and stuff like that
[02:29] <Anchovie> zyga: What are the exact packages that you installed? xwine and all of its dependencies and wine and all of its dependencies?
[02:30] <searcher`> vladuz976: you can use SCIM for that
[02:30] <hmrocha> hello
[02:30] <zyga> Anchovie: I've got wine and it's dendencies, nothing more
[02:30] <ccooke> str: well, some packages have changed a great deal. Mostly universe or multiverse, but there may be leftover bits and pieces in main.
[02:30] <str> so u guys still recommend to wait?
[02:30] <zyga> str: unless you need breezy now, yes just wait
[02:30] <searcher`> vladuz976: this is the howto i used: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[02:30] <ccooke> I'm running breezy, but I intend to reinstall when the final release comes out, just in case.
[02:30] <hmrocha> i want to buy a wireless pci card for my mother, what card do you recomend me?
[02:30] <str> how crucial those small stuffs?
[02:30] <vladuz976> searcher`: does that work in breezy
[02:30] <pl_ice> hi a
[02:30] <pl_ice> ya
[02:31] <ccooke> str: breezy is already very stable. if you really want to try it, try it. If not, don't.
[02:31] <chis`> I think my copy of ubuntu is fucked somehow
[02:31] <searcher`> vladuz976: works for hoary (which is what i use)
[02:31] <ProN00b> there is no xwine on apt, is there ?
[02:31] <str> seems like i need to wait
[02:31] <ccooke> ProN00b: yes.
[02:31] <ccooke> ProN00b: there is.
[02:32] <ccooke> ProN00b: In universe.
[02:32] <hjk57> can i change the size of my swap partition without reinstalling?
[02:32] <pl_ice> zyga where u from? :>
[02:33] <zyga> pl_ice: poland
[02:33] <pl_ice> zyga yeh, i though to, nice nick ;)
[02:34] <LaserLine> Should I use GRUB or the NTLOADER ? as mentioned at this website: http://www.aboutdebian.com/dualboot.htm
[02:35] <ProN00b> ccooke, i have universe addes, still i apt-cache search xwine doesn't find anything
[02:35] <ProN00b> *added
[02:35] <zyga> LaserLine: use grub
[02:35] <zyga> LaserLine: that is for really ancient stuff
[02:35] <zyga> (that page)
[02:36] <Sarkie> How do i find out my "group" name?
[02:36] <zyga> Sarkie: groups
[02:37] <zyga> Sarkie: your default group should be identical to your user name
[02:37] <LaserLine> zyga When I use GRUB, does it matter if I change the boot flag for a partition or not in the installation ?
[02:37] <zyga> LaserLine: I don't really know, I'd keep it for the windows partition but I use that rarely now
[02:37] <Sarkie> rhank you zyga
[02:37] <Sarkie> just trying to get mysql to work
[02:37] <Sarkie> not as easy as in windows :S
[02:38] <LaserLine> zyga Should I mark the Ubuntu PArtition as bootable or not ?
[02:38] <zyga> LaserLine: I never did but feel free to do so :)
[02:38] <zyga> LaserLine: I don't really know if grub matters
[02:38] <LaserLine> zyga thansks,
[02:38] <LaserLine> zyga, Thanks*
[02:38] <ouioui> hi
[02:38] <ProN00b> whats the deb-src things in my sources.list ?
[02:39] <zyga> ProN00b: source archives
[02:39] <_david_> hy
[02:39] <ProN00b> what do i need them for ?
[02:39] <zyga> ProN00b: apt-get source
[02:39] <nipplesrulz> help again!
[02:39] <_david_> how can extract exe file (no cab) ?
[02:39] <_david_> how can i extract exe file (no cab) ?
[02:39] <Ed_Gein> anyone use nicotine?
[02:39] <ProN00b> zyga, so instead of getting bins it gets source and compiles it ?
[02:39] <zyga> _david_: if that exe file is a zip file really use unzip
[02:40] <ThePyromaniac> Ed_Gein is that a program or a substance? lol
[02:40] <nipplesrulz> E: Couldn't find package libperl-xml-parser << er huh?
[02:40] <zyga> _david_: if that's a funky exe with something inside you could try wine
[02:40] <ouioui> i have install breezy badger and have some problem with gnome backer
[02:40] <zyga> ProN00b: for getting the source in general, to look at it, patch it, hack it
[02:40] <Ed_Gein> ThePyromaniac : a program( soulseek client)
[02:40] <nipplesrulz> how can i configure my apt-get to use the hoary repositories as backups or something?
[02:40] <zyga> ProN00b: or for building packages from source, yes
[02:41] <ProN00b> zyga, could me not having the deb-src entries uncommented be the reason for not finding xwine ?
[02:41] <nipplesrulz> !tell nipplesrulz about apt-get
[02:41] <_david_> unzip -d works fine thank you
[02:41] <Ed_Gein> what do people use for p2p these days?
[02:41] <ccooke> ProN00b: Ah, must only be in Breezy
[02:41] <ProN00b> damn, k
[02:41] <zyga> ProN00b: no
[02:41] <ProN00b> can't wait for breezy final
[02:42] <Jaivaz> "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5"
[02:42] <Jaivaz> Erm
[02:43] <Jaivaz> I mean, it can't find that
[02:43] <ouioui> someone can help me please
[02:43] <Jaivaz> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[02:43] <ProN00b> Jaivaz, if you got hoary, add deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:43] <Jaivaz> Alright, thanks.
[02:43] <nipplesrulz> zyga,  am i being silly or is all i need to do to make apt-get work off of the web uncomment those lines!
[02:43] <zyga> Jaivaz: there is no such package in ubuntu repos AFAIK
[02:44] <zyga> nipplesrulz: probably :)
[02:44] <elwood> hi all
[02:44] <elwood> i need help with some disassembled code...anyone ?
[02:44] <ouioui> hi is there someone who install breezy
[02:44] <ProN00b> Jaivaz, be carefull to deactivate, or not install the mozilla firefox plugin with it
[02:45] <nipplesrulz> o.O now update does stuff yay!!!!!
[02:45] <zyga> ouioui: yes, probably lots of people, what is your issue
[02:45] <Jaivaz> What will happen if I do?
[02:45] <ouioui> hi zyga i have some problem
[02:45] <ouioui> first i can't use gnome backer
[02:46] <napsy> Has anyone here successfully installed sysprof from source?
[02:46] <nipplesrulz> zyga, where can i paste some stuff in for the current errors without flooding please?
[02:46] <ouioui> and nvidia drivers doesn't load
[02:46] <zyga> ouioui: why, be specific please?
[02:46] <Tiboz> hey all
[02:46] <zyga> nipplesrulz: pastebin, google for url
[02:46] <Tiboz> do you think it is safe to upgrade the pc I just gave to my sister from hoary to breezy (she is a total beginner in linux) ?
[02:47] <zyga> ouioui: check your /var/log/Xorg.log stuff for reasons why they dont work
[02:47] <Tiboz> zyga: pastebin.com for the url ;)
[02:47] <ouioui> ok for gnome backer i can install it and it works but when i click on writ it doesn't work
[02:47] <zyga> ouioui: could you explain a bit about gnomebaker?
[02:48] <nipplesrulz> zyga,  would you mind looking then?
[02:48] <Tiboz> anyone about my question ?
[02:48] <nipplesrulz> Tiboz, if it helps
[02:48] <nipplesrulz> im not very good at linux either
[02:49] <Tiboz> do you think it is safe to upgrade the pc I just gave to my sister from hoary to breezy (she is a total beginner in linux) ?
[02:49] <nipplesrulz> and i was told NOT to get the latest one... but i messed up and well
[02:49] <nipplesrulz> im out of cd-roms XD
[02:49] <ouioui> Xorg doesn't contain anything
[02:49] <Tiboz> ok :)
[02:49] <ouioui> Xorg.log doesn't contain anything
[02:50] <zyga> ouioui: it's empty?
[02:50] <ouioui> yes
[02:50] <ouioui> but glx doesn't load
[02:50] <zyga> ouioui: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is empty?
[02:51] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, anyone know how to change folder permissions from root to my user, or to 755 without logging in as root?
[02:51] <zyga> nipplesrulz: get rid of backports for the moment
[02:51] <nipplesrulz> in the apt-get conf?
[02:51] <zyga> yes
[02:51] <Tiboz> ThePyromaniac: except with sudo, I don't see how
[02:51] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: sudo  :)
[02:51] <ThePyromaniac> tiboz i dont kow the command do do so
[02:51] <ThePyromaniac> to do so *
[02:52] <ouioui> no it isn't. i make a mistake
[02:52] <ThePyromaniac> i understnad about sudo, i just dont know HOW to change permissions :D
[02:52] <Tiboz> sudo chown myuser myfolder
[02:52] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: chmod
[02:52] <ThePyromaniac> aha thanks
[02:52] <Tiboz> or sudo chmod 755 file
[02:52] <zyga> ThePyromaniac: chown for ownership
[02:52] <Tiboz> depends what you want to do I didn't really understand
[02:53] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: In a terminal use: sudo chown somelogin:somegrp filename  ... similar: sudo chmod 775 filename
[02:53] <nipplesrulz> ok it still cant find the package but im making progress...
[02:53] <Tiboz> nipplesrulz: which package ?
[02:54] <ouioui> what should i see in this file???
[02:54] <ThePyromaniac> mock what do you mean by somelogin:somegrp?
[02:54] <zyga> ouioui: check at the end, it should explain what's going on
[02:54] <Tiboz> ThePyromaniac: user:group
[02:54] <zyga> ouioui: or pastebin that file somewhere
[02:54] <Tiboz> ThePyromaniac: tiboz:users
[02:54] <Tiboz> for example
[02:54] <ThePyromaniac> ok thanks
[02:54] <nipplesrulz> well Tiboz im trying to get obsidian working atm.. so i need something like libperl-xml-parser
[02:55] <Tiboz> you can't apt-get it ?
[02:55] <mock> I need a german thesaurus for Openoffice ... ubuntu does seem to have only en-us or italian ... does anyone know, where to obrain a de thesaurus?
[02:55] <nipplesrulz> but eventually i need to add the hoary lists too so i can apt-get azureus
[02:55] <nipplesrulz> yeah let me see here
[02:55] <zyga> nipplesrulz: don't mix hoary and breezy - chances are it'll break
[02:55] <nipplesrulz> sudo apt-get install libperl-xml-parser <<-- was what i typed exactly
[02:55] <ThePyromaniac> "sudo chown phil ./music/" says its not allowed :(
[02:56] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: somelogin ist the desired username to own the file ... same with somegroup , the desired usergroup the file is owned by
[02:56] <nipplesrulz> so if i need to install azureus zyga  i need to install hoary instead?
[02:56] <GnuKemist> 4
[02:56] <Tiboz> mock: openoffice.org-thesaurus-de is in breezy universe
[02:56] <ThePyromaniac> mock confused :$
[02:57] <mock> @Tiboz: Thy, very much
[02:57] <zyga> nipplesrulz: no
[02:57] <Tiboz> you're welcome
[02:57] <ouioui> ok there is some warning: font but i don't think that's that
[02:57] <zyga> nipplesrulz: wait for breezy's package or package it yourself
[02:57] <ouioui> it seems to load NV driver
[02:57] <nipplesrulz> ah so i can still just get it directly from sourceforge and do a compile or make or some such then ok
[02:58] <ouioui> i think thats ubuntu driver
[02:58] <cius> hello
[02:58] <ssam> is there any reason installing breezy to a compact flash would fail, when hoary installs there ok?
[02:58] <nipplesrulz> how about getting my libperl-xml-parser package?
[02:58] <ouioui> did you install nvidia? can i know how
[02:58] <cius> would anyone know if its possible to use the gnu assembler from teh command line in hoary?  I checked synaptic and its installed, but I can't "locate" it.
[02:58] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Ok, example ... file testfile is now owned by root ... now do a sudo chown ThePyromaniac testfile ... after that you are the owner
[02:58] <ouioui> i make it like in hoary
[02:59] <nipplesrulz> would the package name be the same as the source name?
[02:59] <Tiboz> cius: what do you mean by gnu assembler ?
[02:59] <nipplesrulz> like: XML-Parser-2.34
[02:59] <xalphas> hi guys i've just upgraded to breezy and it looks really great.. is there any userfriendly things for wifi..ipw2200?
[02:59] <nipplesrulz> or the like?
[02:59] <cius> tiboz, binutils, I think its called gas?
[02:59] <Sarkie> can someone help me with mysql please it is not working, here is the code and the error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2921
[02:59] <Tiboz> cius: try as
[03:00] <Tiboz> AS - the portable GNU assembler.
[03:00] <cius> tiboz, thats it!  thanks!
[03:00] <Tiboz> cius: you're welcome
[03:00] <Tiboz> oops
[03:00] <nipplesrulz> oh my gosh
[03:01] <ThePyromaniac> mock that says im not allowed to
[03:01] <nipplesrulz> i just realized that the Makefile.pl was Makefile.PL
[03:01] <nipplesrulz> YAY
[03:01] <Tiboz> mdr
[03:01] <cius> I'm a comp sci student who just made the switch to ubuntu and I'm taking assembly right now, so I had to make sure I have an assembler.
[03:01] <ian_> anybody know why mgetty/vgetty are not included in the baseline ubuntu release?
[03:01] <Ed_Gein> anyone use nicotine?
[03:01] <Sarkie> cius what assembler language tho?
[03:01] <Tiboz> all the smokers ?
[03:02] <Skid> ewww, assemly
[03:02] <Skid> I hated that
[03:02] <cius> Sarkie x86
[03:02] <Ed_Gein> the linux soulseek client(p2p)
[03:02] <Skid> cius: I had to do mips shite, evil.
[03:02] <Sarkie> cius nasm, masm tasm
[03:02] <Skid> Sarkie: for one, I've not seen a query like that before, but what happens if you: mysql -u root -p
[03:02] <Skid> ?
[03:02] <Skid> (then enter the mysql root p/w)
[03:02] <cius> skid, I wouldn't mind learning mips, isn't that what risc is?
[03:03] <ThePyromaniac> i'm just gonna log in as root then disable root logins after
[03:03] <Skid> cius: yeah, and like the old cobalt raq arch
[03:03] <cius> sarkie, would those be prefereable to just as?
[03:03] <Skid> cius: I have debian running off a raq2 heh, shame it's going to be discontinued
[03:03] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Hm ... ok, the user you are logged in has no privileges for system administration ...
[03:03] <Sarkie> cius, but assembler is not just one lang...
[03:03] <hakan> how do I reinstall grub/lilo to find both my ubuntu partition and my windows xp one? right now it starts ubuntu linux directly without any menu!
[03:03] <Sarkie> Skid - Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
[03:03] <cius> skid, wow, I've never even heard of raq...
[03:03] <krisi> how do i install gcc?
[03:04] <Sarkie> apt-get gcc..
[03:04] <Skid> krisi: apt-get install build-essential
[03:04] <ian_> can anybody recommend a decent answering machine package, MVM is ok but I,m looking for something with a more advanced GUI.....
[03:04] <cius> sarkie, hope that doesn't show my lack of age :-)
[03:04] <Sarkie> cius 16?
[03:04] <Skid> Sarkie: do you have any tables in the databse?
[03:04] <Skid> Sarkie: show tables;
[03:04] <cius> sarkie, 22
[03:04] <Sarkie> whats age go to do with it then, just lack of knowledge, nothing to be ashamed of
[03:05] <Sarkie> learn some 16 bit assm first
[03:05] <Sarkie> i know nasm
[03:05] <pl_ice> i need a hand, i got hangover ... :/
[03:05] <cius> sarkie, I can't learn 16 bit first, unless my prof wants to redo her course around it.  ;-)
[03:05] <Sarkie> what you learning?
[03:05] <Sarkie> 32?
[03:05] <ian_> alamak
[03:05] <cius> sarkie, yea
[03:06] <Sarkie> you know what language no?
[03:06] <Sarkie> ERROR 1046: No Database Selected
[03:06] <Sarkie> Skid, not really used mysql before im a Oracle person
[03:07] <cius> sarkie, umm, well, we were uing masm on windows, I thought that was just microsoft assembler though, I figured the structure of the language and all should be the same...I take it I'm wrong.
[03:07] <LaserLine> Hello all, I have File System Questions.... Installing Ubuntu gives a lot of choices, EXT3 is default, you also have XFS, ReiserFS and many more... what should I choose ? Why EXT3 is default, and not ReiserFS and what is the main diffrence between ReiserFS and EXT3, does Ubuntu support Reiser4 ?
[03:07] <cius> man I can't wait for reiser 4, it just sounds cool
[03:07] <Sarkie> well masm is a teaching language to me
[03:07] <Skid> Sarkie: well, i'd install apache + php, then phpmyadmin
[03:07] <Sarkie> its pretty good
[03:08] <Skid> oracle is evil
[03:08] <Sarkie> :(
[03:08] <Skid> they just bought the innodb rights
[03:08] <ThePyromaniac> that didnt work, i still am not allowed to change permissions in root!
[03:08] <Skid> basically going to put mysql out of comercial competition/business
[03:08] <cius> sarkie, so would I need a masm assembler for ubuntu or will as work?
[03:09] <Sarkie> masm assembler dont think itll work, since its not windows 32 bit?
[03:09] <krisi> anyone using cedega on amd64?
[03:09] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Hm ... so you went into user administration and went to the permissions dialog fpr that user?
[03:09] <ThePyromaniac> I made a partition in FAT32 for my /home/phil/media/music and now it wont let me changer permissions
[03:09] <cius> sarkie, dang, that sucks.  I'll have to look into it, maybe my prof will have an easy solution other than dual booting.
[03:10] <Sarkie> wine?
[03:10] <ThePyromaniac> mock oh hell oagain. i right clicked and tried to change group
[03:10] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Ahhh I see! Tell that at first!
[03:10] <ThePyromaniac> mock, chuckle
[03:10] <LaserLine> Anyone could help me with File Systems ?
[03:10] <cius> sarkie, I could go wine...
[03:10] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: FAT32 does not know about users, owners and permissions at all ...
[03:10] <Sarkie> ;)
[03:10] <derFlo> hi. I have a ipw2200 wlan card. Haw can I change it's name from eth1 to wlan0 ?
[03:10] <Sarkie> just wondering will it assemble in linux
[03:10] <ThePyromaniac> mock oh right, of course. so how do i edit?
[03:11] <Sarkie> cius pm
[03:11] <cius> sarkie, could give it a try
[03:11] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: The owner grou and permissions are all fixed to defaults ... you can set them with options when you mount the partition
[03:11] <ThePyromaniac> mock, how? ^-^
[03:11] <N6REJ> can someone help explain to me the best configuration for apache2.conf when there will be more then one webmaster?
[03:12] <LaserLine> Guys, I have a Filesystem question, could anyone help me ?
[03:12] <hakan> sorry guys, I desperately need your help.   how do I reinstall grub/lilo to find both my ubuntu partition and my windows xp one? right now it starts ubuntu linux directly without any menu!
[03:12] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: I think that depends on how the mount happens ... I tell you the console way to mount the fat-drive ...
[03:12] <inuyasha> current problem: apparently i have no make command?
[03:12] <pl_ice> LaserLine what's the problem?
[03:12] <Sarkie> Skid right I have phpmyadmin
[03:13] <Skid> localhost/phpmyadmin
[03:13] <Skid> it's basically a gui for mysql :)
[03:13] <nipplesrulz> bash: make: command not found  <<-= is that something i need to install?
[03:13] <ThePyromaniac> need build-essentials methinks
[03:13] <Sarkie> nice
[03:13] <Skid> nipplesrulz: apt-get install build-essential
[03:14] <dan> join #moin
[03:14] <pl_ice> nipplesrulz u missing gcc complier
[03:14] <nipplesrulz> ah thankyou
[03:14] <LaserLine> pl_ice, I want to know the diffrence between ReiserFS and EXT3, as of me having lots of INODE problems with my laptop and only ReiserFS solved them...
[03:14] <LaserLine> I'm going to install Ubuntu 5.10 (clean) and Dual Boot with XP on my Desktop. I don't know if I should go with EXT3, or maybe ReiserFS or even JFS or XFS...
[03:14] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: ... wait ... have to check out exactly
[03:14] <mahangu> how do i kill a package?
[03:14] <mahangu> apt-get purge?
[03:14] <nipplesrulz> out of curiosity why would that not just be in there?
[03:14] <Skid> kill ?
[03:14] <mahangu> i just got slashcode and wanna kill it now
[03:14] <ThePyromaniac> mock im waiting, was telling nipplesrulz an answer, not answering myself :D
[03:14] <mahangu> Skid, i mean purge from system
[03:15] <Skid> apt-get remove <pkg>
[03:15] <nipplesrulz> mahangu, do you want to keep the config files?
[03:15] <Skid> apt-get remove --purge <pkg> removes configs
[03:15] <mahangu> nipplesrulz, nope
[03:15] <nipplesrulz> :P
[03:15] <mahangu> slashcode is ass at installing
[03:15] <mahangu> farmer love
[03:15] <Skid> brb.
[03:15] <Shambler> has the usplash changed? ive heard that it looks different now to the brownish thing?
[03:16] <LaserLine> pl_ice, could you help ?
[03:16] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: mount -o uid=user,gid=group,umask=permissions,dmask=directorypermissions -tvfat /dev/hda2 /mnt
[03:16] <pl_ice> LaserLine hm, google it, ext3 is pretty good now, heaps improvement form ext2, but resizer got different file storage, i.e. indexing and that's matters when u loose ur info, etc
[03:17] <ThePyromaniac> so... uid=phil gid and permissions = what?
[03:17] <LaserLine> pl_ice, I'm googling like hell sience last afternoon, and I can't decide....
[03:17] <pl_ice> LaserLine i can find out, but it's a large topic, ur'e looking for something special toto sork with fs?
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi , i added a hard disk to my ubuntu system ...its a fat32 or fat harddisk, how do i mount it?
[03:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi ,which shell commands lits me ALL IDE devices?
[03:17] <LaserLine> pl_ice, It's going to be a desktop. but I'm not trusting EXT3 that much any more :-(
[03:18] <LaserLine> pl_ice, I had to Reinstall Ubuntu 3 times on my laptop after Lowlevel formatting it twice, and always getting INODE errors and stuff that FSCK didn't fix.
[03:18] <N6REJ> I'm trying to get apache2 configured properly and I'm not sure if I should leave the user/group as www-data or not.  I'm not used to it being anything but nobody.
[03:18] <ThePyromaniac> mock sorry i am still n00bish in some respects
[03:18] <LaserLine> pl_ice, With ReiserFS I'm not getting that, but thisi is a whole diffrent system, So I'm not sure what way to go...
[03:18] <Hendric> hi.. just updated all 400+ packages for 2 hours... how can i copy those packages for future use???
[03:18] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: For ubuntu gid whould be phil too ... permissions depends on what you want to allow ... 777 would allow anything with any file ... 775 would be typical 750 would be very restrictiv, only Phil could do much on that drive
[03:19] <pl_ice> LaserLine not sure then, how old is the laptop?
[03:19] <Mon> anyone here succesfully uses cups browsing over network?
[03:19] <ian_> hey....
[03:19] <Mon> Hendric: for what use? there will probably be new packages next week
[03:19] <ian_> its my girlfriends birthday...
[03:19] <ThePyromaniac> mock ok well as i am planning to share with samba for my iwndows network i suppose 777 is best. is that for both u mask and dmask?
[03:20] <Hendric> Mon, at least.. i won't be downloading them again... incase i'll reinstall.. even if some will be update.. but not all for sure
[03:20] <LaserLine> pl_ice The laptop is quite old, It's a Fujitsu Siemens S-4546 (256MB RAM, P3-=600Mhz with Toshiba 4200RPM drive)
[03:20] <Hendric> *updated
[03:20] <ian_> yeah...
[03:20] <ian_> 25!
[03:20] <Mon> Hendric: they're in /var/cache/apt/archives if you want to burn them or something
[03:20] <ian_> Dust?
[03:20] <billgates2> how would i make it automaticly login
[03:20] <ian_> anybody?
[03:20] <ian_> no...?
[03:20] <ian_> Dust?
[03:20] <[LethAL] > No, no dust
[03:20] <LaserLine> pl_ice Now I want to install Breezy (when it's coming out) and Dual boot it with XP on my Desktop - AthlonXP 2700+ 1GB Ram Asus A7N8X Delux Mobo, and ATI Radeon 9500PRO
[03:20] <ian_> I am in the only gay in the village.
[03:20] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Yes, that would be both for umask and dmask ...
[03:20] <ThePyromaniac> mock thanks
[03:21] <Hendric> Mon, i wanna burn them.. many thanks Mon...
[03:21] <Mon> billgates2: System, Managment, settings for loginscreen (or something similar)
[03:21] <pl_ice> LaserLine can u pull out some info abut the hdd ? compay type etc
[03:21] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: ... unless you want there to be a difference ;)
[03:21] <billgates2> cherrs, mon
[03:21] <coolerguy> the ubuntu installer keeps giving me an error on install...
[03:21] <coolerguy> "the installer cannot figure out how to install Ubuntu. No installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured"
[03:21] <Mon> Hendric: happy burning :)
[03:21] <Shin_Gouki> hi ,which shell commands lits me ALL IDE devices?
[03:21] <ThePyromaniac> mock wouldnt know what the difference is! lol
[03:21] <chris123> hi everybody, what was that command aghain to get info about w32codecs & java?
[03:21] <Mon> !tell Shin_Gouki about mount
[03:22] <[LethAL] > !tell chris123 about w32codecs
[03:22] <chris123> !tell w32codecs
[03:22] <N6REJ> Laserline: I just successfully installed breezy on a p2-350 with 384, so your machine should be fine.  Better have a good look at that harddrive... I'm using ext3 on a wd 40g hd.  I had to use the "daily" snapshot of oct 07 though to get a good build.  Don't use the link off the main page.
[03:22] <[LethAL] > !tell chris123 about java
[03:22] <chris123> thx :)
[03:22] <[LethAL] > !tell chris123 about javadeb
[03:22] <Shin_Gouki> Mon, its not only mount, but i want to list ALSO my IDE devices.. is there a command?
[03:22] <chris123> !tell about java
[03:22] <chris123> !tell about javadeb
[03:22] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Hehe ... you'll learn them some day ... if you don't, you don't need to learn that ;)
[03:22] <limaunion> hi, having a couple of issues after upgrading to Breezy, the most important is that gnome won't start, it just get stuck during in the splash screen without displaying any icon, now I'm running fluxbox, any ideas ?
[03:22] <[LethAL] > chris123, I did them for you, read ubotu's PM
[03:22] <Mon> Shin_Gouki: ls /dev/h* or something?
[03:23] <Shin_Gouki> thx!
[03:23] <N6REJ> !tell about apache2
[03:23] <pl_ice> LaserLine it would be easier to find out why that error pops out ... identyfiying it...
[03:23] <LaserLine> pl_ice, The laptop's drive is this:  MK1016GAP the link is http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd/mk1016.htm
[03:23] <Mon> Shin_Gouki: there's something like "device management" under the System, Management menu's too if you like GUI's :)
[03:23] <N6REJ> !tell about apache
[03:23] <ThePyromaniac> mock hmm... i ran "sudo mount -o uid=phil,gid=phil,umask=777,dmask=777 -tvfat /dev/sda5 /home/phil/media/music" now i cant even read it!
[03:23] <[LethAL] > N6REJ, it doesn't work like that
[03:23] <Hendric> Mon, can you teach me samba? i can't seem to make it work.. asks me for password...
[03:23] <LaserLine> pl_ice, my Desktop's drive is Maxtor DiamondMax9 UDMA133 2MB Buffer 7200RPM
[03:23] <st1lgar> Shin_Gouki: you might also want to take a look at /proc and /sys
[03:23] <ciplogic> To Ubuntu recognize my network card I must write that commands: cd /lib \n modprobe 3c509 . My question is: where I should edit one script to make that network card to be recognised?
[03:24] <Shin_Gouki> thx so far !
[03:24] <Hendric> Mon, i want it to act like the windows network neighborhood... hassle free
[03:24] <ciplogic> For instannce on start of boot
[03:24] <N6REJ> lethal: so I see :(  I'm trying to assertain the best way to set up apache2.conf as I will likely have 6 people putting files on the website.
[03:24] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Ooops ... but you are logged in as phil?
[03:24] <Mon> Hendric: right click on the folder you want to share and choose Share Folder (should work i think)
[03:24] <ThePyromaniac> mock yes
[03:24] <LaserLine> N6REJ I managed to Install and everything, but after a few days, even after I shut it off completley and the FS is clean, when I boot it I recieve HORROR errors and must use FSCK from the LiveCD... even tried BAD SECTOR scans and Smart checks.
[03:25] <Hendric> Mon, i tried that.. my other ubuntu system can't browse it.. it asks for a password.. i dunno how to remove it
[03:25] <Mon> Hendric: though you can use Network in Places to find you Windows box too
[03:25] <N6REJ> LaserLine: don't use LIVE, use install
[03:25] <[LethAL] > !tell N6REJ about lamp
[03:25] <Mon> Hendric: should be your password
[03:25] <LaserLine> N6REJ There is 1 SMART Failure that reports, after running from the LIVECD, but ReiserFS seems to manage to cope with it...
[03:25] <LaserLine> pl_ice, Any Idea ?
[03:25] <Hendric> Mon, absolutely not my password.
[03:26] <pl_ice> give us a sec, will look for it
[03:26] <ciplogic> To Ubuntu recognize my network card I must write that commands: cd /lib \n modprobe 3c509 . My question is: where I should edit one script to make that network card to be recognised?
[03:26] <krisi> how do i set an env variable?
[03:26] <whyameye> krisi: export
[03:26] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Hm ... shit, I remember ... I told you nonsense about the permissions ... they tell what is not allowed ... yo you have to use 000 in both cases
[03:26] <N6REJ> LaserLine: thats never good.  try getting the software from the drive manufacturer, and reconditioning the drive, but you should plan on replacing it asap... notebook drives are fairly cheap now for small ones.
[03:26] <____heinz> hi
[03:26] <Hendric> can anyone here help me with samba to make it act like the usual windows network neighborhood (no auth, no hassle, just click and browse)...
[03:26] <ThePyromaniac> mock ok, weird cause when i mounted it i used umask and did that
[03:26] <Mon> Hendric: well i'm not very familiar with the whole smb.conf stuff. did it once but i kinda forgot. should be a howto on the wiki or forum though
[03:26] <coolerguy> there seems to be some sort of problem with my ubuntu installer...
[03:26] <ThePyromaniac> perhaps i need to change in fstab
[03:26] <coolerguy> when i try and install it, i get an error
[03:26] <LaserLine> N6REJ yeah, I know :-)
[03:27] <____heinz> how can i mount a nfs share everytime i  log in
[03:27] <____heinz> ?
[03:27] <Hendric> Mon, i tried following every wiki and forums.. but seems not the way i want it to be
[03:27] <Hobbsee> why are you grabbing the hoary one?
[03:27] <coolerguy> "The installer cannot figure out how to install Ubuntu. No installable CD-ROM was found and no valid mirror was configured
[03:27] <coolerguy> "
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> b/c
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> i cant seem to even get simple packages in this one
[03:27] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Yes, you should change your fstab accordingly ... you don't want it to do the console way ;)
[03:27] <digis___> ?
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> it seems just fine mostly
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> but i need some xml parser to get it working right
[03:27] <ciplogic> To Ubuntu recognize my network card I must write that commands: cd /lib \n modprobe 3c509 . My question is: where I should edit one script to make that network card to be recognised? (sorry for buzz)
[03:27] <ThePyromaniac> mock i have forgotten the syntax for adding umask into fstab
[03:27] <nipplesrulz> and i get uuber errors on the make
[03:27] <N6REJ> [LethAL] : thats what I was following.... this is the part that has me confused... .earch both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache. (look at the next chapter concerning apache commands)
[03:28] <ThePyromaniac> isnt it default,umask=000
[03:28] <nipplesrulz> so i figured i wuold just go down a notch and hope its in those packages for the apt-get
[03:28] <[LethAL] > N6REJ, bear in mind that I haven't ever setup httpd properly
[03:28] <LaserLine> N6REJ Why should I choose XFS, or JFS ? why aren't they good ? Why did Ubuntu choose EXT3 as default ? and Suse chose ReiserFS ? I'm reading the Doc's of every FS, and even the WIKIPEDIA, but I  can't decide what's better... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[03:28] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[03:28] <whyameye> Henric: have you looked at your settings in /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[03:28] <scoon> LaserLine, ext3 has been around forever and is extremely stable.
[03:29] <Hendric> whyameye, i did.. i tried every suggestion from wikis and forums.. but doesn't work eighter
[03:29] <cius> hendric, I'm in the same boat, but I haven't really looked itno it yet
[03:29] <Hendric> whyameye, i did.. i tried every suggestion from wikis and forums.. but doesn't work either
[03:29] <Guest383004>  <> www.onlinebanditbrasil.com <> <<< Jogos Multiplayer: Tetris, Gamo, Puzzle, Yatzy
[03:29] <N6REJ> LaserLine: I think each has there merits.... some are sudo raids.. .I think its like coffee you choose the one you like, but I don't know.  I use whatever one works at the time.
[03:29] <Mon> Hendric: check private conversation
[03:30] <chris123> is there any source I can put in sources.list for getting java? i'd like having updates when existing...
[03:30] <LaserLine> pl_ice What FS do you use ??
[03:30] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: The line should look like: /dev/sda5     /home/phil/media/music      uid=phil,gid=phil,umask=000,dmask=000    0    2
[03:30] <whyameye> Hendric: sorry. I doubt I know enough to help you then.
[03:30] <N6REJ> [LethAL] : ok, I'm going to get this silly thing working 100% and then I'll know whats what.... although its similiar to RH and Mandrake, its very different too.
[03:30] <[LethAL] > lol
[03:30] <N6REJ> [LethAL] : and apache2 is WAY DIFFERNT then old fashioned apache.
[03:30] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Wrong ... dev/sda5     /home/phil/media/music      vfat      uid=phil,gid=phil,umask=000,dmask=000    0    2
[03:31] <Hendric> Mon, should i PM u?
[03:31] <Mon> Hendric: i already sent something to you :) check bottom of the screen
[03:32] <pl_ice> LaserLine file system
[03:32] <LaserLine> pl_ice Yeah, what File System do you use ? :-)
[03:32] <Shin_Gouki> hi which shell commands lists me my CURRENT, full path in the directory tree?
[03:33] <LaserLine> pl_ice, did the Info about my HardDrives helped you ?
[03:33] <Shin_Gouki> pl_ice, wwow were issuch filesystem used..?
[03:33] <pl_ice> LaserLine did u save those errors? can't find any info, not sure if other users had problems
[03:34] <ThePyromaniac> kickass! thanks mock
[03:34] <mock> @ThePyromaniac: Have some fun with it ;)
[03:34] <ciplogic> To Ubuntu recognize my network card I must write that commands: cd /lib \n modprobe 3c509 . My question is: where I should edit one script to make that network card to be recognised?
[03:34] <LaserLine> pl_ice These errors were INODE errors on files, usually in the Kernel Directory with the Sound Modules.
[03:34] <LaserLine> but not just that...
[03:35] <ACEa> which is the official libqt3 version in breezy ?
[03:35] <Mon> ciplogic: just modprobe 3c509 should do. and ubuntu should also load it automaticly...
[03:35] <ciplogic> every time?
[03:35] <ciplogic> Nope... it doesn't
[03:35] <Mon> ciplogic: put "3c509" in /etc/modules without the quotes. then it will be loaded on boot
[03:35] <ciplogic> thank you a lot Mon
[03:35] <slew> help!! last night my screen resolution was 1280x960, today its 640x480 and it wont let me change it! how do i fix this?!?
[03:36] <Hendric> slew, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:36] <krisi> can i install csh in unbuntu?
[03:36] <Blissex> !windows
[03:36] <ubotu> methinks windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[03:36] <co0kie> how do you change the resolution for the login-screen?
[03:36] <Blissex> !windows partitions
[03:36] <Chousuke> krisi: yes.
[03:36] <ubotu> Blissex: I don't know
[03:36] <Blissex> !partitions
[03:36] <ubotu> Blissex: I give up, what is it?
[03:36] <krisi> Chousuke, how?