[09:39] <Skizu> somsip: my test is I've a lot of errors due to the php version, but they're showing as standard php errors, without the xdebug way of showing errors in a readable way
[09:39] <vlitomsk> i have "good" files in /proc/asound, ALSA detects my card successfully, but i can't run 'alsamixer' in X terminal emulator (from openbox WM)
[09:39] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  normal apps will be remebered.. as i said.
[09:39] <syedhamid> dr_willis: example: if I go to liveusb mode, and (try ubuntu without installing), I install gnome-ppp, wvdial, brasero, steam on it, after I reboot or end that liveusb session, will those files remain in my PC or will be removed?
[09:39] <vlitomsk> help me
[09:39] <syedhamid> remembered?
[09:39] <peterrus> Skizu, I am not sure if I have ever seen that
[09:39] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:39] <syedhamid> dr_willis: will those apps I installed on liveusb will be removed or not? that is question
[09:39] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  thats  the whole point of the 'persistant save file' it saves the changes you make
[09:39] <peterrus> Skizu, as far as I know xdebug does not change the way errors are logged (in apache's error.log)
[09:40] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  if you ahve a save file made - yes.. if you DONT.. then no
[09:40] <Skizu> peterrus: not logged, the way the look
[09:40] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:40] <syedhamid> dr_willis: if I don't have a save file, those apps will be removed after I reboot?
[09:40] <peterrus> Skizu, what do you mean exactly? when I use xdebug, they dont change in any way
[09:40] <Skizu> peterrus: e.g. http://xdebug.org/docs/stack_trace
[09:40] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:40] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:40] <dr_willis> Antar:  get the iso. mount it.. and it should ask. or it might..
[09:40] <somsip> Skizu: Not sure what you mean. Does phpinfo() show that xdebug is installed ok
[09:40] <Skizu> Look how it shows errors there, doesn't so any such thing for me
[09:40] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  if you ahve a save file made - yes.. if you DONT.. then no <<<<<<<<<< You DONT. then NO it wont save
[09:40] <Skizu> somsip: Yeah appears in both PHP part and the zend part
[09:40] <Antar> ok drwilis
[09:41] <syedhamid> how can I check if a save file is made or not
[09:41] <dr_willis> Antar:  i would think you could of allready tried it and see if it worked. ;)
[09:41] <somsip> Skizu: try setting html_errors = On in php.ini? http://is.gd/w7HH6d
[09:41] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  look for a casper-rw file on the usb.. or try a simple change. like downloading a wallpaper image. and see if its still there when you reboot
[09:41] <vlitomsk> all previous story + alsamixer runs with sudo in X terminal emulator
[09:41] <vlitomsk> but without sudo it crases
[09:41] <vlitomsk> *crashes
[09:41] <syedhamid> dr_willis: it is not there, yea it worked
[09:42] <peterrus> Skizu, stacktraces are on by default these days afaik, xdebug does not have anything to to with that
[09:42] <vlitomsk> does anyone know how to fix it?
[09:42] <nowayride> Antar https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades has some instruction, but (as it states) I'd definitely make updates first since Ubuntu can um.. break.. during an upgrade. Or at least be able to recover from a rescue CD
[09:42] <nowayride> Make backups first*
[09:42] <dr_willis> backup your backups!
[09:42] <syedhamid> nowayride; ubuntu distro can break during the upgrade?
[09:42] <syedhamid> o.O ubuntu distro can break during the upgrade??
[09:43] <dr_willis> anything can break during a upgrade
[09:43] <peterrus> jup
[09:43] <syedhamid> now I am scared to upgrade...
[09:43] <peterrus> you should be
[09:43] <dr_willis> power failure during a upgrade = bad....  on ANY OS
[09:43] <nowayride> IDK about desktops, but I've seen plenty of "I upgraded to 12.04 and it won't boot", it might be more server hardware though
[09:43] <peterrus> thats why you always backup your complete system
[09:43] <aneesh_> what is the number of source available for the ubuntu server . I mean how many number are there Get:214 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates/restricted Sources [5,467 B]
[09:43] <Skizu> somsip: For some reason it was off, just made it On do I need to restart apache2?
[09:43] <peterrus> Skizu, yes
[09:43] <syedhamid> dr_willis: if I am upgrading thru apt-get upgrade, and suddenly, my battery runs out....
[09:43] <syedhamid> what will happen
[09:43] <peterrus> syedhamid, that will be the last you see of yrour system
[09:43] <somsip> Skizu: yes, but I have no idea what it does or what you're trying to achieve.
[09:43] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  then you will wish you had made backupos
[09:44] <nowayride> But upgrading major releases brings a lot of changes and there's always a chance something can break, or as stated there could be a power out or something and brick it, so at least have backups or know how to recover from livecd
[09:44] <aneesh_> It is taking  time Already it took around 30 minutes already . How much time I need to wait to complete the update
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> syedhamid: dont do upgrades on battery......
[09:44] <Skizu> somsip: exactly that thanks :)
[09:44] <dr_willis> syedhamid:   an  'apt-get upgrade' is  not the same as doing a release upgrade
[09:44] <syedhamid> how to recover from livecd
[09:44] <somsip> Skizu: cool
[09:44] <robertknight> Is there a way to add a local post-install hook for a specific upstream package?
[09:44] <peterrus> Skizu, protip, use vagrants, they really simplify all this setting up of development environments
[09:44] <dr_willis> killing apt  in mid-working  is not a good idea
[09:44] <yolandre> hi all. i need some adive regarding an installation issue. anyone interested?
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> yolandre  ask away
[09:44] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  recover what? it depends on whats broken
[09:44] <reisio> yolandre: I'm not, but I'll give it anyways, if the issue is ever specified
[09:45] <Skizu> What do I need to install/enable to use mod-rewrite?
[09:45] <syedhamid> dr_willis: like, if I cannot boot
[09:45] <peterrus> Skizu, take a look at this if you like: http://www.vagrantup.com/ and this https://github.com/peterrus/vagrant-lamp
[09:45] <syedhamid> or cannot access my files
[09:45] <nowayride> So yeah.. has anyone messed with unattended installer? I'm thinking it's not even picking up my kickstart or hitting the correct boot option
[09:45] <syedhamid> dr_willis: ubuntu shouldn't have added that ecryptfs option
[09:45] <peterrus> Skizu, a2enmod rewrite
[09:45] <syedhamid> many people dont know about ecryptfs
[09:45] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  boot live cd.. mount your installed system .. access files
[09:46] <syedhamid> linux-beginners use ecryptfs
[09:46] <syedhamid> and they dont know about that
[09:46] <dr_willis> I dont use  the encryoted stuff.. so no idea on it.
[09:46] <syedhamid> if ecryptfs gets broken
[09:46] <syedhamid> they'll lose their files
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> syedhamid  beginners don't use encryption
[09:46] <syedhamid> dr_willis: 99% do it, like that box, "encrypt your directory?" and most are like "sure why not"
[09:46] <dr_willis> thats why its not enabled by default
[09:46] <syedhamid> monkeydust: they do
[09:47] <syedhamid> keep that ecryptfs thing out of the installation, i would say to ubuntu developers
[09:47] <yolandre> i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 from usb flash disc on a blank partition to have it run along side with windows 8 pro x64. the problem: the ubuntu installer doesn't report any of the existing ntfs partitions. the odd thing: running ubuntu live from the installation media all 3 existing ntfs partitions are preperly reported and can ctually be accessed from ubuntu.
[09:47] <syedhamid> if they want ecryptfs, they must do it manually
[09:47] <iceroot_> syedhamid: and when you hdd gets broken you will also lose your stuff, because of that there are backups
[09:47] <peterrus> if you guys close your laptop lid, and it suspends, then when you wake it up, does it briefly show your desktop/screen contents before actually locking the screen? I find this to be a real security issue
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> yolandre: resize your NTFS in Windows, then reboo and run a chkdsk to be sure it is healthy
[09:47] <peterrus> syedhamid, it is the only place to actually use it
[09:47] <iceroot_> peterrus: no
[09:47] <syedhamid> peterrus: looks like someones been lurking around your /home/
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> peterrus: report a bug
[09:47] <reisio> peterrus: immediately after closing it?
[09:47] <peterrus> syedhamid, you cant encrypt your partition afterwards
[09:48] <Skizu> So I've done that and restarted, still getting a 404 on rewrites, anything in php.ini i need to enable?
[09:48] <peterrus> reisio, I close it, it suspends, then I wait for x hours, then I open it, the screen is shown, for about 1 second, then the screen is locked
[09:48] <syedhamid> peterrus: is upgrading a bad idea?
[09:48] <syedhamid> or should we just upgrade from iso
[09:48] <peterrus> syedhamid, no
[09:48] <peterrus> syedhamid, but upgrading unprepared is
[09:48] <reisio> peterrus: I wouldn't worry about it
[09:49] <reisio> peterrus: anybody experienced who actually wants your data will get it if they have physical access
[09:49] <nowayride> peterrus: physical access is a security risk
[09:49] <syedhamid> has anybody experienced that? like if they tried upgrading, and something broke?
[09:49] <vlitomsk> Help me, why sound&alsamixer work fine with root privelegies, but without privelegies alsamixer says 'cannot open mixer: no such file or directory'? i use tiny Xorg + tiny openbox
[09:49] <reisio> locked screen won't stop'm
[09:49] <peterrus> reisio, nowayride sure sure, but this clearly seems like a design error
[09:49] <reisio> :)
[09:49] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  first rule of comptuter data  reliabilty... keep backups.
[09:49] <kimda> hi. i 've got a weird networking issue.. I've changed firewall settings a week ago and since then there are network connectivity issues. Even after changing the settings back to the original settings these issues remain. Also whats weird that one virtual interface is accessible from the same network - even from a different physical server from the same network - but is not accessible from outside the network. Yesterday I got it working again. But thi
[09:49] <kimda> s morning I cannot access it via ping/ssh etc.. Any ideas what could be wrong with it? Maybe the arp cache? The other interface on the same machine is accessible though.
[09:49] <yolandre> i've tried the installtion with the pace set aside for ubuntu formatted as ntfs and unfromatted, but the result remains the same: ubuntu installer reports the entire drive as being vacant and available. something i didn't mention before: i went through a heck of a lot of trouble converting the drive from GPT to MBR., so it's a mbr drive.
[09:49] <reisio> peterrus: if it's GNOME's screensaver, that wouldn't surprise me
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> syedhamid: not had the issue, upgrading is fine but personaly I always clean install
[09:49] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  upgrades in any os CAN fail..
[09:49] <reisio> peterrus: if it's xscreensaver, my guess is it was never fully tested against the likes of compiz
[09:50] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  it depends on what the user has done to the OS in quesion a lot of the time.
[09:50] <reisio> peterrus: you should be able to tell the system that closing the lid means: log out & then suspend
[09:50] <reisio> peterrus: or even display a blank image fullscreen then suspend
[09:50] <peterrus> reisio, I think locking takes a bit to long, so it just goes ahead and suspends
[09:51] <peterrus> anyway, this could be classified as a bug
[09:51] <somsip> Skizu: oh, that's quite pretty isn't it. I'll enable that myself :)
[09:51] <reisio> peterrus: yes, certainly
[09:51] <dr_willis> it suspends as its shutting down ;_
[09:51] <syedhamid> how can i make a backup of /home/ the fastest way if i have 4gb
[09:51] <dr_willis> :)
[09:51] <Zorky> Anyone here who can help me with a tweak on gnome screensaver or xscreensaver, making it so it logs the user off when it activates?
[09:51] <reisio> syedhamid: to where?
[09:51] <nowayride> syedhamid: Also, that's why partitioning is a good idea too. Separate home = worst case you're only having to reinstall your programs/some settings.  Making backups sucks, sure, but they can save you a lot of stress. You could have a look at commercial solutions such as Acronis True Image Home, really  makes it a painless experience, but you will need a external hdd with at least the size of you
[09:51] <peterrus> r internal hdd I suppose
[09:51] <FloodBot1> peterrus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <peterrus> lol
[09:52] <reisio> well, no, separate /home worst case you still lose it all
[09:52] <syedhamid> to my USB
[09:52] <Skizu> So rewrite appears to be enabled as it's showing in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled but I can't seem to get it to work anyone got ideas why I'm still hitting a 404?
[09:52] <somsip> Skizu: yeah. I always tail a log on a different monitor, but it's worth enabling that I think :)
[09:52] <reisio> syedhamid: rsync -av /home/foo/ /media/whateverusb/
[09:52] <Zorky> Anyone who can help me with screensavers in ubuntu?
[09:52] <somsip> Skizu: in your virtual host, amke sure you AllowOverride to make .htaccess accessible
[09:52] <peterrus> Zorky, I think ubuntu questions would be a good place for that
[09:52] <nowayride> Skizu: syntax right? is it overridden somewhere?
[09:53] <Skizu> somsip: In php.ini?
[09:53] <syedhamid> reisio: is that the fastest way? and will my /home/ will be deleted after I copied it to my USB?
[09:53] <Zorky> peterrus:  irc chan?
[09:53] <peterrus> reisio, syedhamid rsync -ravuh --progress /home/foo /media/whateverusb ;)
[09:53] <reisio> syedhamid: might be faster with just -a instead of -v
[09:53] <somsip> Skizu: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default if you have no other vhosts setup yet
[09:53] <reisio> syedhamid: just copies, doesn't delete
[09:54] <peterrus> Zorky, it's a site, this question is so localized, you really shouldn't expect anyone here to answer it, at this exact moment
[09:54] <nowayride> reisio: how does having a separate /home partition mean losing it in a new install? You can select to preserve it
[09:54] <syedhamid> peterurs: what does "uh" mean?
[09:54] <syedhamid> peterrus* haha
[09:54] <Skizu> So it says allow override none I need to make it true?
[09:54] <peterrus> syedhamid, update and human
[09:54] <peterrus> so update files already there
[09:54] <peterrus> and human is to get human readable filesizes
[09:54] <syedhamid> and "h"?
[09:54] <somsip> Skizu: Change None to All (ok on local dev server)
[09:54] <peterrus> progress to see the progress
[09:54] <reisio> nowayride: ah, thought we were talking about failures :)
[09:54] <Zorky> peterrus:  ohh. : /
[09:54] <peterrus> r for recursive which means: also copy all subfolders
[09:54] <syedhamid> i am confused by that "h" thing still
[09:55] <peterrus> it is the perfect backup command, write it down, it will save lives
[09:55] <nowayride> Well an install failure still shouldn't be touching partitions marked to preserve
[09:55] <reisio> -r is probably redundant to -a
[09:55] <somsip> Skizu: restart apache again
[09:55] <reisio> -u is redundant to a fresh dir
[09:55] <reisio> -h is redundant to not wanting -v to speed it up
[09:55] <reisio> rsync -a foo/ bar/
[09:55] <iycv> hello everyone, I download the eclipse.tar.gz, and I extract it in ~/eclipse,  can anyone tell me How to completely uninstall eclipse?
[09:55] <peterrus> reisio, -h is for human readable
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> i use rsync for my backups in a nightly cron task
[09:55] <peterrus> file zises
[09:55] <reisio> iycv: rm?
[09:55] <peterrus> sizes*
[09:55] <mohamedn3na3a> hey guys can i reinstall ubuntu without having to format my hard disk allover again?
[09:55] <reisio> peterrus: nothing to read if you want it to go faster by outputting nothing
[09:56] <peterrus> reisio, true, but I like to keep an eye on things when doing it manually
[09:56] <reisio> MonkeyDust: not rdiff-backup? :)
[09:56] <peterrus> in cronjobs, thats an entirely other story ;)
[09:56] <Skizu> somsip: we have success
[09:56] <reisio> mohamedn3na3a: kinda
[09:56] <rigo88> hi
[09:56] <iycv> nreisio: rm doesn't work
[09:56] <somsip> Skizu: good
[09:56] <reisio> peterrus: and I, but he saked for faster :p
[09:56] <reisio> rigo88: hi
[09:56] <mohamedn3na3a> can u tell me how?
[09:56] <reisio> iycv: why not?
[09:56] <rigo88> reisio: hi here too :)
[09:56] <reisio> mohamedn3na3a: you've got one partition?
[09:56] <syedhamid> reisio: why did you told me to put "v" out of the way?
[09:57] <mohamedn3na3a> yea
[09:57] <peterrus> reisio, yes, but seeing that he isn't exactly an ubuntupro, I though a little verbosity goes a long way xD
[09:57] <rigo88> now im really not sure that my catalyst 13.04 is installed well..
[09:57] <iycv> I can't find the .eclipse/ fold
[09:57] <rigo88> i mean 13.4
[09:57] <skeuomorf> I am trying to connect using SSH to a remote server but it doesn't show me anything, the process isn't terminated neither connected, however connecting using putty through SSH works fine
[09:58] <peterrus> syedhamid, -v shows you which file it is copying, removing -v copys the files faster, but then you don't know what it is doing
[09:58] <peterrus> I always use -v when doing a manual backup, like you are doing
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> reisio  let me explore that :)
[09:58] <nowayride> skeuomorf: ssh -vvv and check the last line it hangs at... and are these from the same IP?
[09:58] <syedhamid> peterrus: will my terminal be corrupted?
[09:58] <somsip> skeuomorf: ssh -vvv will give you lots of extra info
[09:58] <nowayride> You could be firewalled or blocked otherwise
[09:58] <peterrus> syedhamid, what
[09:58] <syedhamid>  /home/ is like 87GB
[09:58] <skeuomorf> nowayride: same ip yes, will ssh -vvv now
[09:58] <syedhamid> with<PHONE_NUMBER>31 files
[09:58] <peterrus> syedhamid, no problem, but it will not fit on a 4gb usb stick xD
[09:59] <nowayride> Do you use .ssh/config?
[09:59] <syedhamid> peterrus: it'll take hours, and  my terminal will stop? like, it'll get tired or something
[09:59] <syedhamid> this happened to me a couple of times
[09:59] <peterrus> syedhamid, no, your terminal uses a great amount of coke, it can go on for days without stopping
[09:59] <peterrus> really
[10:00] <syedhamid> and peterrus: if I copy 50GB to my USB, and the rest 30GB to some other USB, is this possible?
[10:00] <Warsmokey> can someone pm me that has knowledge of ubuntu server and connecting to other computers please
[10:00] <skeuomorf> nowayride: no
[10:00] <syedhamid> how can I do that?
[10:00] <peterrus> if your buffer gets full (the text you can scroll back to in your terminal) it will just discard old lines, so no problem at all
[10:00] <nowayride> Warsmokey: how are you wanting to connect?
[10:00] <peterrus> syedhamid, yes then you would use rsync -blaa /home/foo/porn /media/usb-for-porn/
[10:00] <Skizu> somsip: thanks for your help
[10:00] <nowayride> Or at least a tldr so you don't get a flood of PMs of "Oh, I don't know"
[10:00] <syedhamid> what does -blaa mean
[10:01] <peterrus> and rsync -blaa /home/foo/otherstuff /media/usb-for-the-rest
[10:01] <somsip> Skizu: your welcome. Come back and help someone else when you get chance :)
[10:01] <syedhamid> and yes peterrus, my /home/ mainly consists of asian trap porn
[10:01] <peterrus> syedhamid, i dont feel like typing it all agaiin
[10:01] <somsip> *you'
[10:01] <peterrus> syedhamid, lol
[10:01] <Skizu> somsip: When I get the skill you mean haha
[10:01] <somsip> Skizu: :)
[10:01] <syedhamid> peterrus: now that you said that P word, i must do my duty as a dude.
[10:02] <syedhamid> beatin' da thing
[10:02] <syedhamid> brb
[10:02] <peterrus> please keep that to yourself, and all will be fine
[10:02] <Warsmokey> @nowayride so i have a 2800 dell raid 5 mounted with ubuntu server, i'm trying to connect 4 windows 7 computers to access the data only on the server but i'm having a hard time for even one to connect to it
[10:02] <syedhamid> lol peterrus xD
[10:02] <somsip> !tmi | syedhamid
[10:02] <syedhamid> peterrus: have you tried using rsync yet?
[10:02] <peterrus> syedhamid, I use it all the time
[10:02] <syedhamid> peterrus: is grsync a good option too?
[10:02] <peterrus> makes two automatic backups every week
[10:03] <nowayride> Warsmokey: what protocol are you trying to connect with? Are you doing this just as a backup or looking for a persistent connection?
[10:03] <rigo88> i had to download from amd.com manually the 13.4 cause if i did apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade on a fresh 12.04 x64 server, than after reboot apt-get install fglrx (than lxde etc... and reboot) the sys freezed at boot..
[10:03] <Skizu> somsip: May need your help some more ;)
[10:03] <reisio> syedhamid: rsync is resumable, if it's interrupted just re-run the same command
[10:03] <nowayride> You can use scp (like winscp) for one offs
[10:03] <somsip> Skizu: you can ask...
[10:03] <peterrus> syedhamid, never used grsync, I dont like GUI programs for terminal programs, they often obscure too much functionality I am looking for
[10:03] <skeuomorf> nowayride: am I using ssh correctly? ssh user@server:port
[10:03] <reisio> syedhamid: rsync -a /home/foo/ /media/path/to/emptydir/on/usb/
[10:03] <Warsmokey> @nowayride a persistent connection i
[10:03] <Skizu> somsip: php5.4+ on my box rather than the 5.3.10 I seem to be getting
[10:03] <somsip> skeuomorf: ssh -p port user@remote
[10:04] <peterrus> reisio, syedhamid that is exactly why it is so handy, just re-run the command if something fails, and you are back on track
[10:04] <syedhamid> reisio: how can I make rsync make backups every week?
[10:04] <skeuomorf> somsip: thanks, that was the problem, me writing the wrong command, fail!
[10:04] <anev> syedhamid: cronjob
[10:04] <peterrus> syedhamid, use cron, the internet knows all about it. But first make sure you completely understand rsync of you will get nowhere in life
[10:04] <somsip> Skizu: you need a PPA. http://is.gd/f6m78g
[10:05] <somsip> skeuomorf: np
[10:05] <skeuomorf> thanks somsip nowayride for the great help
[10:05] <nowayride> NP
[10:05] <reisio> syedhamid: do you want 1:1 backups, or cumulative (each week new things you added to your filesystem are added to the backup)?
[10:06] <blazemore> Out of interest, is there an "official" method for creating a bootable Ubuntu liveUSB from Windows? I always just use unetbootin or lili
[10:06] <reisio> the former only protects you from hardware/software catastrophes, the latter protects you from yourself and other users
[10:06] <peterrus> blazemore, it is the 'official' way
[10:06] <Skizu> somsip: Looks dangerous haha, it is fine to update to 5.4 without issue?
[10:06] <syedhamid> yes reisio
[10:06] <peterrus> blazemore, unetbootin at least
[10:06] <reisio> blazemore: I think help.ubuntu.com has pendrive linux listed
[10:06] <blazemore> peterrus: I see a lot of other tools like the Suse image writer being used too
[10:06] <reisio> blazemore: dd is going to be the most reliable, but it's also the most dangerous and least simple for many :p
[10:07] <somsip> Skizu: it's on my todo list for my production servers. I believe care is needed... Still not sure whether to wait for 14.04 or stay on 12.04 and use a PPA...
[10:07] <reisio> syedhamid: yes? You have to pick one :p
[10:07] <syedhamid> reisio: oh hell no
[10:07] <reisio> syedhamid: ...wha?
[10:07] <syedhamid> reisio: last time I used dd, my system cracked up
[10:07] <reisio> heheh
[10:07] <reisio> well that wasn't to you anyways
[10:07] <somsip> Skizu: on stay on 5.3 on 12.04
[10:07] <peterrus> syedhamid, http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[10:07] <nowayride> blazemore: unibersal usb installer has always done well for making bootable usb drives
[10:07] <peterrus> have a read
[10:07] <Skizu> 14.04 is out?
[10:08] <somsip> Skizu: in about 8 months
[10:08] <blazemore> Skizu: It's called 14.04 because it'll be released in April 2014
[10:08] <blazemore> Skizu: We have to have 13.10 first anyway
[10:08] <syedhamid> anyways guys, i have a exam tomorrow
[10:08] <soumya_> s
[10:08] <skeuomorf> somsip: say I want to copy .vimrc from local server to remote, this is the way to do it? scp ~/.vimrc user@remote -p port
[10:08] <nowayride> Next couple of releases are going to be interesting
[10:08] <syedhamid> and yes, peterrus & reisio: how can I disable network-manager temporaily?
[10:08] <somsip> skeuomorf: weirdly, scp uses -P for port
[10:09] <Skizu> blazemore: Oh I see
[10:09] <nowayride> skeuomorf: scp ~/.vimrc user@remote:/path/to/wherever -p port
[10:09] <somsip> skeuomorf: so scp -P port .vimrc user@remote: (to put it in users home)
[10:09] <skeuomorf> somsip, weird yes :)
[10:09] <skeuomorf> aha
[10:09] <Skizu> Problem is this is only a local one and the people who choose about live probably won't let me have php5.4+ but I'm using traits and such and would need to spend weeks to recode lol
[10:10] <syedhamid> how can I disable network-manager....temporarily
[10:10] <yolandre> blazemore, try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[10:10] <somsip> Skizu: which is why my local dev is 12.04 on 5.3 so I'm not tempted by newer shinier things offer by 5.4 (though I want them...)
[10:11] <reisio> syedhamid: right click on its icon?
[10:11] <mohamedn3na3a> my internet connection keeps disconnecting periodically and i have to reset the network manager anyone knows what's wrong?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> mohamedn3na3a  wifi?
[10:11] <mohamedn3na3a> yeah
[10:11] <Skizu> somsip: Use traits, makes a nice secure data collection object quite possible without using the SPL things, well you can still use a SPL behind it
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> mohamedn3na3a: when it drops, run:   dmesg | tail -n 15     and read the screen
[10:11] <syedhamid> reisio: that doesnt work
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> mohamedn3na3a: it may give clues
[10:12] <syedhamid> reisio: im trying to use gnome-ppp but this damn network-manager is getting in my way
[10:12] <mohamedn3na3a> okay :)
[10:12] <somsip> Skizu: I have no wish to fall into the position you are in.
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | mohamedn3na3a it's your local wireless connection, not internet
[10:13] <Longinus> niech ktoś kurwa de mi opa
[10:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:15] <Skizu> somsip: Yeah, it's unfortunate that I now need to recode a lot of stuff due to a shadow of lies from the server admins
[10:16] <Skizu> In which I now need to pass a single object through multiple objects to collect data :s super messy
[10:16] <somsip> Skizu: Frustrating in one way, but better to code within the limitations of your production servers. But we are off support and into general chat now, so time to stop
[10:18] <Skizu> somsip: Indeed, well thanks and cya
[10:18] <somsip> Skizu: good luck :)
[10:18] <Skizu> somsip: Yeah not to recode a few weeks of work haha!!
[10:19] <Guest44765> How do I switch to a different network server?  I'm new to this chat
[10:20] <Guest44765> Can anyone answer my question?
[10:20] <somsip> !patience | Guest44765
[10:20] <z8z> Guest44765: what do you mean?
[10:21] <Guest44765> I'm trying to join a different network that I used to go to and an trying Smuxi on Ubuntu for the first time
[10:22] <yolandre> Sa]]
[10:22] <yolandre> same here...
[10:22] <Guest44765> I usually use Windows but decided to try this out as an alternative
[10:25] <nowayride> You mean IRC network?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest44765: https://www.smuxi.org/page/ServerHowTo
[10:25] <Guest44765> yes
[10:27] <BluesKaj> uhm , there's irc on windows too
[10:27] <Guest44765> Thanks ActionParsnip...will check it out
[10:32] <aneesh_> one quick question  will less space on root folder affects the mysql start process?
[10:33] <ikonia> aneesh_: in what way ?
[10:33] <ikonia> aneesh_: there is space needed for the socket and log files, if this is hanging off the root directory and you have no space free, it won't start
[10:34] <aneesh_> my root folder has only 77m space left  . Is that problem because of that mysq is not running?
[10:34] <somsip> aneesh_: check /var/log/mysql/error.log in case you have any information in there
[10:35] <ikonia> aneesh_: read what I just said
[10:38] <CaneToad> I've got a situation where system with nvidia driver boots up with external monitor 1920x1080, but running totem movie player even without any arguments makes the system drop the external monitor resolution down to 1024x768....odd thing is that I have three VGA cables here, and it does it with 2 of them, but 1 of them works fine. I guess it boils down to VGA cables not having the data line that lets the monitor report its res
[10:42] <esing> hi Iam installing ubuntu and Iam not sure what I should set as 'Device for boot loader installation'. /dev/sda  or /dev/sda1 ?
[10:43] <cfhowlett> esing, by default /dev/sda
[10:44] <sec_> how run 12 in virtualbox?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> sec_: 12 what? apples?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> sec_, it's runs fine.
[10:44] <sec_> ubuntu-12
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> sec_: there is no 'ubuntu-12'
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> sec_: there is Ubuntu 12.04   and Ubuntu 12.10
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> sec_: 'ubuntu-12' doesn't exist
[10:45] <sec_> ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso this is
[10:46] <DJones> sec_: Install virtualbox, start virtualbox, install UBuntu 12.04/12.10 in virtualbox, thats all there is to it
[10:46] <sec_> sorry i can't remember correct name
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> sec_: then its Ubuntu 12.04
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> sec_: it will run fine, use Unity2D for extra performance
[10:47] <sec_> This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
[10:47] <sec_> pae
[10:47] <sec_> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> sec_: in future, please type FULL descriptions of the issue. Saves a lot of time
[10:47] <sec_> i got this error
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !details|sec_,   for precision help, precision details are needed
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> sec_: what CPU are you using in your host?
[10:48] <sec_> it's Pentium B980
[10:48] <esing> cfhowlett Maybe I need to specifically set it to /dev/sda1 if I have windows boot loader already in /dev/sda1 (I want to dual boot ubuntu/windows 8)
[10:48] <cfhowlett> sec_, pentium?  probably find you'll get better results with xubuntu or lubuntu
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> !pae | sec_
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> sec_: do you have pae enabled in the guest?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> esing, you can put it where you want, just need to make sure the bios looks in the right place on booting up.
[10:49] <sec_> ActionParsnip: no. It's booting with that pae enabled
[10:50] <nowayride> sec_: that might not have virtualization, if it does make sure it's enabled in BIOS
[10:50] <esing> cfhowlett Hm, I thought the boot loader always have to be in sda1?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> sec_: so under the settings for the virtual PC, system -> processor tab. YOu have PAE enabled there?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sec_: yes?
[10:51] <ThothCastel> what does this do?
[10:51] <ThothCastel> awk 'BEGIN {FS=OFS="|"}{$1=strftime("%c",$1)} {print}'
[10:51] <sec_> ActionParsnip: yes i enable PAE now
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sec_: didnt think to check that?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: ask in #bash too
[10:52] <sec_> ActionParsnip: No. Sorry i know ubuntu has good support. so go to here :)
[10:52] <ThothCastel> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[10:52] <sec_> thanks you :)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sec_: all better?
[10:52] <sec_> ActionParsnip: yes it is better now
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sec_: a more accurate channel would have been #vbox
[10:54] <sec_> ActionParsnip: thanks, i think i should only use console :(
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> sec_: you'll learn
[10:54] <sec_> ActionParsnip: ubuntu give me to prompt now
[10:55] <sec_> ActionParsnip: exist pre-installed ubuntu machine for vbox, is it?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> sec_: no ide
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> *idea
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> sec_: try in #vbox
[10:56] <sec_> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:57] <carles> Hi - I'm investigating this error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/numbertext/+bug/1207494 . Libreoffice 4.1 from www.libreoffice.org worked but not from PPA
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !ppa|carles
[10:58] <BWorld> Is there an easy way to recover only database files using photorec? All of the MYI files are renamed into numeric format so I can never re-assemble the database this way, are there tools for this situation here?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> carles: contact the PPA maintainer, we can only support package versions from the Ubuntu repos
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> BWorld  photorec > File Options
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: why is there not a backup?
[11:01] <carles> understood, checking the details - thanks :-) (will also check newer Ubuntu versions just in case)
[11:01] <BWorld> Thanks MonkeyDust
[11:01] <BWorld> ecause it was running on my local machine
[11:02] <BWorld> It was first setup as a temporary solution (we were using Mantis) and never migrated the database to server
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: should still be backed up, even if its local
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: if its important, back it up
[11:04] <BWorld> Yes ofcourse, it was stupid
[11:04] <BWorld> But now, I have found back all .MYI files I guess
[11:04] <BWorld> But all filenames are malformed
[11:05] <BWorld> Someone aware of some program that can restore this?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: people love leaning the value of backup the hard way
[11:06] <BWorld> :(
[11:06] <Hawkerz> i'm sure such a program could be written, but having never heard of either photorec or an myi file I'm afraid I can't help
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: foremost may do it
[11:07] <BWorld> Thanks ActionParsnip I will google it and try to figure it out
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: you will need a partition of equal or larger size than the partition and you will restore any and all files, you will use file name and directory structure but the files may be retrieved
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: if the area that files were stored on has been written to since, then the data is gone
[11:08] <esing> I justed finished the installation of ubuntu and the system booted into grub2 rescue prompt. I managed to boot into ubuntu by issuing these commands: set root=(hd1,gpt6)  and then: linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 ro  and then: initrd /initrd.img  and then boot. Iam now in ubuntu's desktop. What should I do now to have the normal boot menu and not grub's rescue prompt when I startup the system?
[11:08] <Hawkerz> is there actually data missing? or has it just been moved around?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> esing, is this a wubi installation?
[11:09] <esing> cfhowlett No, it's the normal ubuntu live cd installation
[11:09] <esing> (Installed in efi mode)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> esing: sudo update-grub     should do it
[11:10] <Hawkerz> has that been causing a lot of issues?
[11:10] <Hawkerz> EFI, that is
[11:10] <VampiricPadraig> Hey guys. Is there any good Mail Server programs out there that have Webmail functionality. Looking to set one up on a Ubuntu server?
[11:10] <VampiricPadraig> Jeez, I can't do proper grammer today...
[11:11] <Hawkerz> VampiricPadraig, I think every mail server can be accessed via webmail if you're willing to host both
[11:11] <BWorld> I hope it will end good ActionParsnip
[11:11] <esing> ActionParsnip I run sudo update-grub, rebooted, but again I am in grub's rescue prompt
[11:12] <Hawkerz> I would caution you that running a public mailserver tends to be more of a headache than it is worth, VampiricPadraig
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> VampiricPadraig  there's alos #ubuntu-server
[11:12] <VampiricPadraig> Hawkerz: Yup, I don't mind if it's 2 seperate programs.
[11:13] <VampiricPadraig> Hawkerz: Well, we are currently using Google Apps but we are going to have more than 10 people with emails and we are not willing to pay $50 per user per year
[11:13] <Hawkerz> well, you will be paying a lot more than that hosting your own mailserver
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> esing: is the OS fully updated?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Hawkerz: good to learn though
[11:14] <esing> ActionParsnip It's the newest ubuntu live cd, but I didn't issued sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade yet
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> esing: I would, there may be bug fixes in the newer versions
[11:14] <VampiricPadraig> Well, we have a few Linux staff members who could help setting it up :P
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> VampiricPadraig: squirrelmail has a web UI
[11:14] <Hawkerz> ActionParsnip, if you like spending your days trying to keep your servers clean it could be valuable
[11:15] <bfmt048> how to install ruby on rails in ubuntu 12.04
[11:15]  * blazemore runs public mail servers
[11:15] <esing> ActionParsnip I think that updating the packages won't help, because it should work now too
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> VampiricPadraig: http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.com/biztools/article.php/3932591/Top-5-Open-Source-Alternatives-to-Microsoft-Exchange.htm
[11:15] <Hawkerz> VampiricPadraig, so this is an enterprise thing?
[11:15] <Hawkerz> yeah, that was what I was looking for
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> esing: maybe, but it doesn't. There may be an updated Grub package which fixes issues
[11:15] <VampiricPadraig> Hawkerz: Small business-ish
[11:15] <VampiricPadraig> ActionParsnip: having a look at that link now. Thanks :)
[11:16] <blazemore> bfmt048: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-ruby-on-rails-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-with-rvm
[11:16] <Hawkerz> there are some decent options for the frontend anyway -- openxchange or whatever
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Hawkerz: given but if you are interested in managing Linux mail servers as a profession, its good to manage your own first, get used to it
[11:16] <Hawkerz> ActionParsnip, I just hope that is not an exclusive interest
[11:17] <Hawkerz> I have yet to meet someone who dreams of someday managing 'nix mailservers
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Hawkerz: we have one, its a mail relay
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Hawkerz: runs exim
[11:28] <Hawkerz> ActionParsnip, resolving exim-related issues is my least favorite thing to do
[11:30] <babinlonston1> were can i see shell script chatroom
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> babinlonston1: #bash   maybe
[11:31] <babinlonston1> ActionParsnip: got it Thanks
[11:32] <ionelmc> any idea why python3.2 in ubuntu 12.04 (from ubuntu's repos) doesn't link with libgcc_s.so.1 ?
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> ionelmc  better ask in  ##python-friendly
[11:40] <ionelmc> sigh .... no one knows why python3 sucks on ubuntu ...
[11:46] <dragoonis> Any way to make my ubuntu laptop into a personal hotspot for my smartphone to connect to
[11:46] <dragoonis> ?
[11:48] <curatrix> dragoonis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode
[11:49] <ffio> dragoonis: yeah it's possible
[11:49] <ffio> ^
[11:49] <ffio> is it possible to change the loading ubuntu logo into something else ?
[11:50] <MikeH> Anyone here use rsyslog? I'm trying to get rsyslog to put messages from an IP phone itno a specific log file, however I can't quite figure out how. Currently messages end up in /var/log/messages
[11:50] <dragoonis> curatrix, awesome!
[11:50] <curatrix> ;)
[11:50] <MikeH> I see there is a directive like mail.* /var/log/mail.log - but no idea how to do that for the log entries I'm looking at
[11:52] <dragoonis> curatrix, looks like my macbook pro doesn't have the settings required to setup an AP
[11:53]  * curatrix mumbles something about certain fruit and vacuum cleaners
[12:07] <new-user> hello what does mean the "(source code)" on the repositories?
[12:08] <ANN-TechCoder> Source code is the code that is used to make the program :)
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> new-user  if you have programming skills, you can change the source code of any package to your needs
[12:09] <fjeeer> http://www.fjeer.me FREE SMS Worldwide!
[12:09]  * fjeeer http://www.fjeer.me
[12:09] <fjeeer> http://fjeer.me
[12:09] <FloodBot1> fjeeer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <reisio> something to do with Jake Gyllenhaal
[12:09] <new-user> ok. I am a home user, so I should uncheck all source code repos? what do you recommend?
[12:11] <ANN-TechCoder> Youcan leave it.
[12:11] <new-user> ok how can i know if a ppa is secure?
[12:12] <x-s4nd3r> new-user: google it.
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> new-user  avoid ppa's as much as possible
[12:12] <x-s4nd3r> MonkeyDust: what is a ppa? a repository?
[12:12] <DJones> !ppa | x-s4nd3r
[12:12] <x-s4nd3r> thank you for that djones
[12:13] <skago> why avoid ppa?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> skago  because it is not official and not screened for errors
[12:13] <ANN-TechCoder> I am trying to Install SDL 2 Library from PPA right now
[12:14] <skago> ok thanks
[12:18] <wingnut2626> does anyone know why 'eric' has a segmentation fault?
[12:18] <reisio> probably 'cause it's writ in C++
[12:18] <reisio> just a guess
[12:18] <ionelmc> wingnut2626: import faulthandler
[12:18] <ionelmc> eric is written in python no ?
[12:18] <reisio> oh it is
[12:18] <wingnut2626> what do you mean import faulthandler
[12:18] <reisio> but Qt isn't :)
[12:19] <ionelmc> wingnut2626: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/faulthandler/
[12:19] <esing> ActionParsnip I updated ubuntu, then again issued sudo update-grub, but grub2 still started up in rescue prompt. What could I else do?
[12:23] <OerHeks> esing perform a fsck on boot,  sudo touch /forcefsck
[12:26] <wingnut2626> I just ended up building eric from source (sourceforge) instead of getting it from the package manager
[12:26] <wingnut2626> it worked :)
[12:27] <Hawkerz> esing, do you have any logs?
[12:29] <teeceepee> anyone can find ubuntu 64-bit ami for eu-west-1a ?
[12:29] <esing> OerHeks The fsck test seems fine, it says the fs is clean
[12:29] <esing> Hawkerz Do you mean Grub / boot logs in /var/log?
[12:30] <Hawkerz> esing, sure, boot logs, syslog, dmesg
[12:30] <Hawkerz> anything helpful
[12:35] <cowbacon> hello everyone. If I upgrade the hardware in my ubuntu 13.04 server with a new harddrive and more RAM, can I just plug it into the machine and everything will work or do I have to recompile the kernel or something? reconfigure something?
[12:35] <x-s4nd3r> $4800 is divided among three brothers A, B and C, A receives three times as much as B and C receives twice as much as B. If B receives $x, form an equation in x.
[12:36] <Ben64> x-s4nd3r: this is not a homework help channel, this is for ubuntu support only
[12:36] <DJones> x-s4nd3r: Sounds like a question for a maths channel
[12:36] <Ben64> cowbacon: yes, it should "just work"
[12:36] <x-s4nd3r> djones, any maths related questions or homework-helping except #math
[12:36] <x-s4nd3r> maths related channel*
[12:36] <DJones> !alis | x-s4nd3r I've no idea,
[12:37] <cowbacon> Ben64: great thanks.
[12:39] <djlocus> hey guys 1 question
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  let's hear it
[12:40] <djlocus> i been group to group. trying to find a good program such as this. do you know how to work this thing. i never used it
[12:40] <cowbacon> djlocus: just ask the question in the channel, if anyone knows the answer they'll answer you
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  what program would that be?
[12:41] <esing2> Hawkerz,  boot.log : http://ix.io/7hd   syslog: http://ix.io/7he   dmesg: http://ix.io/7hf
[12:41] <Hawkerz> hmmk
[12:42] <djlocus> your on it right now.....
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  how do you know what programs I have opened?
[12:42] <djlocus> because were talking on the same one
[12:43] <djlocus> lol
[12:43] <djlocus> messaging that is
[12:43] <DJones> djlocus: You're not making any sense
[12:43] <Zoiaguyver> Think he means IRC
[12:43] <cowbacon> djlocus: I assume youre talking about IRC? are you asking about a good IRC client?
[12:43] <djlocus> yes
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  you mean an irc client?
[12:43] <djlocus> yes
[12:43] <cowbacon> djlocus: irssi is good, xchat is good
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  and what client are you using?
[12:43] <cowbacon> pidgin i think is good for IRC
[12:43] <djlocus> anonyous os
[12:44] <djlocus> IRC
[12:44] <cowbacon> djlocus: you can also use web chats, like webchat.freenode.net
[12:44] <djlocus> okay
[12:44] <DJones> djlocus: AnonymousOS isn't supported here you will need to find their own support network, this channel only deals with the official versions of Ubuntu
[12:45] <djlocus> oh.so yall couldnt help me?
[12:45] <Ben64> djlocus: and theres a good chance theres spyware in anonymousos
[12:45] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, if I add PPA to my list, how do I install stuff from it ?
[12:45] <djlocus> but i cant get backtrack or metasploit
[12:45] <Ben64> djlocus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous-OS
[12:45] <djlocus> and theres not i got it
[12:46] <Ben64> only ubuntu is supported here
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  you're not in the right channel
[12:46] <djlocus> i dont have to leave do i? since pretty much. the commands are the same
[12:46] <camilo> I installed Ubuntu on an external hdd, when i switched to another PC and back it screwed up my graphics. Any typos as to how to fix? Only have cli atm
[12:47] <Hawkerz> esing, which sony laptop is it? lots of strange stuff in your logs
[12:47] <Meteorskies> hi there
[12:47] <Hawkerz> but I haven't seen efi boot logs at all yet
[12:47] <Ben64> djlocus: anonymousos is not supported here, and likely contains trojans, you really shouldn't use it, and its not the same
[12:47] <DJones> ANN-TechCoder: Installing from a ppa is exactly the same as installing from the official repositories once you've added the ppa
[12:48] <Meteorskies> is there somebody with a bit of shell script and sed knowledge who could help me?
[12:48] <djlocus> what should i use?
[12:48] <Ben64> djlocus: since this is #ubuntu, i'd suggest ubuntu
[12:48] <djlocus> a program or?
[12:49] <djlocus> you got a link?
[12:49] <Ben64> ubuntu.com ...
[12:49] <djlocus> ok
[12:49] <esing> Hawkerz sony vaio 13 pro
[12:50] <Hawkerz> hmmmk
[12:51] <djlocus> um.... the site is a computer site
[12:51] <Meteorskies> is there somebody with a bit of shell script and sed knowledge who could help me?
[12:52] <daftykins> Meteorskies: just ask the question.
[12:54] <Meteorskies> I want to replace a set of variable by another using arrays with sed
[12:54] <Meteorskies> basically, I use a for loop to replace them
[12:54] <Meteorskies> my sed line looks like this
[12:55] <Meteorskies> sed -i "s/$tag1/$tag2/g" "myfile"
[12:55] <Meteorskies> my problem is:
[12:55] <Meteorskies> the double quotes allow me to use variables, but the actual content of the variable are comprised of shell meta-characters such as slash
[12:56] <Meteorskies> I haven't managed to tell the shell to consider them as literal yet
[12:56] <Meteorskies> any idea?
[12:56] <Hawkerz> esing, what are your grub boot params?
[12:57] <Pici> Meteorskies: #bash might be more helpful and quicker than here.
[12:57] <Meteorskies> thanks, I'll head there
[12:58] <esing> Hawkerz root hd0,gpt6
[12:58] <esing> Hawkerz In the rescue prompt I had to enter hd1, maybe that's an issue?
[12:59] <esing> I found latter info  in /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg
[12:59] <petapetapeta> I need to install Ubuntu-server to a ssd drive. I also need to set up two other harddrives in a hardware-RAID on the same server. How do I do this the easiest way?
[12:59] <Hawkerz> esing: could be, but more likely you have bigger probems :p
[12:59] <Hawkerz> esing, what instructions were you following to install?
[13:00] <bekks> petapetapeta: Do you have a hardware raid controller?
[13:00] <petapetapeta> bekks: Yes
[13:00] <bekks> petapetapeta: Which one, exactly?
[13:01] <esing> Hawkerz I followed no instructions. I just installed ubuntu with the live usb in efi mode into /dev/sda6 (root) and /dev/sda7 (home)
[13:01] <petapetapeta> bekks: Or it is currently being installed. I am not aware of the exact model. The only information I have is that it's a "2-Port Hardware-RAID Controller"
[13:01] <bekks> petapetapeta: Well, you need to know the exact make and model.
[13:02] <petapetapeta> bekks: Is it some configuration I need to set during the installation?
[13:02] <bekks> petapetapeta: You need to configure the raid controller, in the raid controller bios. And therefor, you need to know the exact make and model.
[13:03] <Twenty-three> hi guys, due to some issues between the latest kernel and my nvidia drivers i find myself using an older kernel, i am planning to delete the newest this way http://askubuntu.com/questions/106031/how-can-i-remove-new-kernel-versions-after-downgrading i just wonder if there is anything i should know about kernels before doing this and whether i can prevent the latest from being downloaded/installed
[13:03] <seg> Twenty-three: it'll warn you if you try to remove a kernel you're using. It's relatively safe. Make sure to dl the headers, too.
[13:03] <bekks> Twenty-three: Which version of "latest kernel" do you refer to, as well as which version of "my nvidia drivers"?
[13:04] <seg> Twenty-three: also, make sure to update your bootloader
[13:04] <petapetapeta> bekks: Okay I will try to figure it out. I am planning on keeping the OS on the sdd disk and put databases on the RAID disks
[13:05] <petapetapeta> Is that an acceptable approach?
[13:05] <esing> Hawkerz Didn't help to change grub.cfg from hd0,gpt6 to hd1,gpt6 (it is still starting in rescue prompt)
[13:05] <Twenty-three> bekks, the kernel that is giving me issues is "linux-headers-3.8.0-27" and the nvidia drivers i use are 304.88
[13:05] <x-s4nd3r> How can I change the bootlogo on Ubuntu?
[13:05] <bekks> petapetapeta: For a database server, the SSD is just wasting resources.
[13:06] <petapetapeta> bekks: It's both a database and application server
[13:06] <Twenty-three> seg, bekks, alternatively, is there a way to boot using 3.8.0-19 by default?
[13:06] <Hawkerz> esing, it looks like ubuntu can't find a partition it likes to boot from
[13:06] <bekks> petapetapeta: As long as it is a server, using an SSD is wasting resources.
[13:07] <esing> Hawkerz Yep, that looks like it
[13:07] <x-s4nd3r> how can i change the bootlogo on Ubuntu?
[13:07] <philinux> x-s4nd3r: that would be the plymouth package and themes. You need to research ubuntu plymouth themes
[13:07] <petapetapeta> bekks: Cool :) I will strip that away then. So is it okay to just run it from two drives in RAID?
[13:07] <esing> Hawkerz I found in /boot/grub/grub.cfg more hd0,gpt6 instead of hd1,gpt6, should I try to change them all to hd1 and backup the grub.cfg before?
[13:07] <x-s4nd3r> philinux: where is the bootlogo file in ubuntu?
[13:08] <bekks> petapetapeta: If you really have a true (no fake-raid) RAID controller, then you are fine.
[13:08] <philinux> x-s4nd3r: it's not as simple as that you need to change the plymouth theme
[13:08] <purezen> Hey guys..! I have been using the Dell Vostro 5460 lately.. and it comes pre-installed with Ubuntu 12.04 (with few customizations done as well).. However, an issue of low audio output is plaguing Linux users on the same... I have also filed a bug on Launchpad.. Is there someplace where I can help/get help..? Thanks..!
[13:08] <Hawkerz> esing, i'm pretty sure you have a sata drive no?
[13:08] <petapetapeta> bekks: I hope that it's gonna be a true RAID controller then ;)
[13:10] <philinux> !plymouth
[13:10] <philinux> x-s^^^
[13:10] <esing> Hawkerz Iam not sure
[13:10] <esing> Hawkerz I think it is PCI-E
[13:10] <esing> Hawkerz "128GB PCIe SSD drive"
[13:10] <esing> It's inbuilt, one can't unplug it
[13:11] <Hawkerz> /boot/grub/grub.cfg might shed some light
[13:11] <bekks> esing: Of course you can unplug it then. :)
[13:12] <Hawkerz> looks like at the very least you need a few extra boot parameters
[13:12] <iceroot_> can you recommend a program which will do offline translation? would be very nice if i can bring up the program with a shortcut and type in my word. after that i can hide the program again with a shortcut
[13:12] <Cyrax> I found a command called write where i can write to a user.. Do the user need to b on same computer,same room or same network? or can user b anywhere no matter what network?
[13:12] <esing2> Hawkerz,  http://ix.io/7hg
[13:13] <petapetapeta> bekks: Btw. What makes you say that SSD in a server is wasting resources?
[13:14] <petapetapeta> low amount of write cycles?
[13:14] <seg> petapetapeta: ssds are overkill on servers until disk caching becomes a problem. most servers want an abundance of ram. its not a waste if performance is your number one priority, but it's usually overkill
[13:15] <seg> petapetapeta: it's really dependant on server task though
[13:15] <Cyrax> Is that possible?
[13:16] <compdoc> petapetapeta, I run kvm on my servers, and an ssd is an excellent drive to run the VMs from
[13:16] <petapetapeta> seg: yeah that makes sense. But I guess that since we need to store a large amount of data, SSD isn't the most viable choice
[13:17] <seg> Cyrax: write is referring to ttys I believe, so that'd be same computer. try typing man write
[13:17] <Hawkerz> esing2: got access to a web browser?
[13:17] <ffio> how can i create my own ppa ?
[13:18] <petapetapeta> compdoc: But I guess it depends on what you would be using the VMs for right?
[13:19] <compdoc> petapetapeta, doesnt matter - a fast drive works best
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: or a faster interface :)
[13:19] <seg> petapetapeta: He's right, spinning platters just happen to be cheaper, so they make sense in some places
[13:19] <petapetapeta> compdoc: Unless you need to store an amount of data which results in it not being a viable option anymore due to pricing
[13:20] <camilo> Is there a folder that would contain my old graphics drivers? Need to reinstall one
[13:20] <Hawkerz> esing, you need to add a kernel boot parameter to /etc/default/grub - then you need to regenerate the grub config
[13:20] <Hawkerz> the parameter is: "libata.force=noncq"
[13:20] <Cyrax> so what do I need to do to b able to write via terminal to someone else without b on same computer or network?
[13:21] <seg> petapetapeta: There are varied circumstances, too. You could run the server itself from a VM on an SSD, but have that vm utilizing mass storage elsewhere. on a budget just use the SSDs where random file seek time matters most
[13:21] <bekks> Cyrax: thats not possible.
[13:21] <Cyrax> ok.. thanks :D
[13:21] <seg> Cyrax: IRC :D
[13:21] <petapetapeta> compdoc: You could send a mail
[13:21] <petapetapeta> whoops. THat was for Cyrax
[13:21] <esing> Hawkerz Do you mean I should add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash libata.force=noncq"
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: compdoc: even faster is tempfs, all runs in RAM then, no slow HDD storage in any form
[13:21] <Cyrax> i could send mail via terminal? how?
[13:21] <Hawkerz> yes
[13:22] <linuxearth> is ubuntu easy to use i want to learn linux?
[13:22] <bekks> Cyrax: You need to setup a mailserver first, and then use the mail command or a command line mail application.
[13:22] <Hawkerz> esing, that's what this guy says and he had your laptop: http://elouisyoung.blogspot.com/2013/07/configuring-2013-sony-vaio-pro-13-with.html
[13:22] <petapetapeta> seg: Yeah it's something like that I was considering. But I am not sure how efficient that would be
[13:23] <esing> Hawkerz I regenerated the grub config with: sudo update-grub
[13:23] <Hawkerz> esing, I suppose you probably need to have EFI enabled in the bios but you already do so that shouldn't be an issue
[13:23] <linuxearth> is ubuntu easy to use i want to learn linux?
[13:23] <Cyrax> Any link how i set up mail server? only need to give me a link.. thats all
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> linuxearth: its one of the easiest
[13:23] <Hawkerz> esing, just check /boot/grub/grub.cfg and make sure it survived
[13:23] <linuxearth> ActionParsnip: oh i see
[13:23] <linuxearth> and learning linux too?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> linuxearth: depends on mentality and attitude etc. Have a try. It is free
[13:23] <linuxearth> i just come brb
[13:23] <petapetapeta> ActionParsnip: That sounds a bit too expensive :P
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: how? Ram is stuidly cheap :)
[13:25] <petapetapeta> ActionParsnip: Depends on what you compare it with ;)
[13:25] <Twenty-three> seg, bekks, if i were to mess up the deletion of my linux-headers, is there a chance it could be irreparable?
[13:25] <seg> Twenty-three: video drivers wont install
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: oh for sure
[13:25] <esing> Hawkerz Hm, when I reboot the system still starts up in grub's rescue prompt
[13:25] <bekks> Twenty-three: Why do you remove linux-headers at all?
[13:25] <seg> Twenty-three: they depend on the headers
[13:25] <seg> Twenty-three: the nvidia ones you were mentioning specifically I mean
[13:25] <Twenty-three> noted,
[13:26] <Hawkerz> esing, i didn't ask before, but did you actually install anything?
[13:26] <Hawkerz> or has it just been dying?
[13:26] <Twenty-three> bekks: issues with my nvidia drivers so i'm going back to a previous version
[13:26] <seg> Twenty-three: if you revert to the nouveau drivers I dont believe they need the headers. Might be a good option til you figure out your problems
[13:26] <bekks> Twenty-three: To a previous version of what?
[13:27] <Twenty-three> bekks: i am switching from linux-headers-3.8.0-27 to linux-headers-3.8.0-19
[13:27] <esing> Hawkerz No, the linux installation is new, I didn't install anything on it
[13:27] <bekks> Twenty-three: You cant switch headers without switching the kernel.
[13:27] <Hawkerz> esing, but there -is- a linux installation?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: encoding video etc flys if you do it in tempfs. I keep my browser cache in tempfs to save having to write the data to my hdd, also speeds up reuse
[13:27] <Hawkerz> as in, you were able to install but it just doesn't boot?
[13:27] <Hawkerz> or it won't even boot the live usb
[13:28] <k1l_> Twenty-three: the headers must be the same as the kernel.
[13:28] <esing> Hawkerz It came with Windows 8, then I resized the Windows8 gpt partition, then I created the linux partitions and then I installed linux into /dev/sda6
[13:28] <Twenty-three> bekks: i had assumed they were about the same thing, how would i go about it then?
[13:28] <MonkeyDu1t> Twenty-three  what do you want to achieve? maybe there's a different way
[13:28] <petapetapeta> seg: Would it be beneficial for me to use the SSD for the OS installation and web application, and the RAIDED disks for storing most of the data and handling data retrieval
[13:28] <esing> Hawkerz The live cd boots fine
[13:28] <seg> petapetapeta: ideally, all SSD. if you're saving money, save the SSD for the stuff that is critical to access fast
[13:28] <bekks> petapetapeta: No. Using an SSD in a server is wasting resources.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: sounds like a plan
[13:28] <nevyn> petapetapeta: is dmcache in a release these days?
[13:29] <seg> petapetapeta: ideally no disk at all and all RAM, really
[13:29] <hagrid> can i ask for help here?
[13:29] <esing> Hawkerz And I can boot into the installed linux desktop when I issue: set root=(hd1,gpt6)  and then: linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 ro  and then: initrd /initrd.img  and then boot.
[13:29] <esing> (When Iam in the grub rescue prompt)
[13:29] <seg> petapetapeta: but we're not all made of cash haha
[13:29] <MonkeyDu1t> hagrid  yes
[13:29] <Twenty-three> MonkeyDu1t: the 3.8.0-27 caused issues with my nvidia drivers (would display the lowest resolution, only one screen and the launcher was gone, troubleshooting suggested that opengl failed to open but i couldn't really fix anything
[13:29] <Hawkerz> esing, ohhh....now that is interesting...
[13:29] <Hawkerz> and it boots fine?
[13:30] <esing> Yes
[13:30] <Twenty-three> MonkeyDu1t: trying linux-headers-3.8.0-19 worked fine so i guess i'll just stick to it
[13:30] <Hawkerz> hm
[13:30] <hagrid> @MonkeyDult , my prolem is that I cannot get past the purple splash(or booting) screen when I load ubuntu 12.04.2
[13:30] <petapetapeta> nevyn: huh?
[13:30] <nevyn> dmcache
[13:30] <esing> Hawkerz Maybe I should try to modify all hd0/gpt6 in grub.cfg to hd1/gpt6
[13:30] <nevyn> you use the ssd to accelerate writes to the raid
[13:31] <petapetapeta> Ahh haven't heard about that :)
[13:31] <hagrid> @Monkeydult, I have tried the usual methods of 'nomodeset' and 'acpi'.
[13:31] <nevyn> so instead of choosing badly what you put on the ssd and what you put on the spinning rust you let the computer just work it out dynamically
[13:31] <hagrid> MonkeyDult , my prolem is that I cannot get past the purple splash(or booting) screen when I load ubuntu 12.04.2
[13:31] <petapetapeta> seg: All SSD might be a bit too expensive. Also it would require me to set up a f-load of SSD disks to store all the data :D
[13:31] <hagrid> Monkeydult, I have tried the usual methods of 'nomodeset' and 'acpi'
[13:32] <petapetapeta> nevyn: uhh that sounds smart!
[13:32] <Hawkerz> esing, it's worth a try at this point -- efi may not be recognizing the install properly (it doesn't appear to be)
[13:32] <Hawkerz> esing, are you using 13.10?
[13:32] <esing> I give it a shot
[13:32] <esing> Yes
[13:32] <nevyn> petapetapeta: so everything is on the raid (high reliability) but the things you're accessing right now are hot in the ssd as a cache
[13:33] <seg> petapetapeta: I really don't even know what you're trying to host. In reality, if I were hosting a NAS or something, I wouldn't consider SSDs personally. Hell, most SSD things id consider I would rather just do with RAM on a server.
[13:33] <petapetapeta> nevyn: That sounds exactly what I want
[13:33] <hagrid> MonkeyDult: are you there?
[13:33] <nevyn> but I think you need a newer kernel than what's in  13.04
[13:33] <MonkeyDu1t> hagrid  maybe it's a videocard issue?
[13:34] <hagrid> MonkeyDult: maybe, but what do I do to repair it? Can you suggest something?
[13:34] <MonkeyDu1t> hagrid  no, repeat your question with details every 10 minutes or so, until someone can help
[13:35] <hagrid> Monkeydult: I tried booting in reovery mode from grub, that goes ok, and shows me a menu for actions, where I resume normal boot, and the same thing happens.
[13:35] <Twenty-three> hagrid, have you tried booting different linux headers at grub? it worked for me, at some stage
[13:35] <hagrid> Monkeydult: ok, thanks.
[13:35] <stroodlepup> does synaptic have ftp support?
[13:35] <hagrid> Twenty-three: what do you mean, boot different linux headers
[13:35] <seg> Twenty-three: are you referring to kernels? Headers are usually only used by other software.
[13:35] <bekks> Twenty-three: You cannot boot linux-headers.
[13:36] <bekks> Twenty-three: And the headers have to be the same version as the kernel used.
[13:36] <esing> Hawkerz Didn't help either
[13:36] <Twenty-three> hagrid, seg, bekks, yeah, i probably mean kernel
[13:36] <ffio> i have created a local repository, now in that i need to block some packages is that possible ?
[13:36] <seg> Twenty-three: for example, the nvidia drivers NEED the kernel headers (which are bundled) to create the right module for the kernel to load nvidia stuff at runtime
[13:36] <Hawkerz> esing, apparently in your bios, you need to disable 'quickboot', 'intel smart response technology', and in windows you have to disable 'fast startup' -- you can make sure here that it is installed properly in EFI mode: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_an_Ubuntu_has_been_installed_in_EFI_mode
[13:37] <hagrid> Twenty-three, seg, bekks well, it is a fresh install, so I dont have older kernels available.
[13:37] <Twenty-three> seg: noted, :)
[13:37] <seg> Twenty-three: I figured you knew, just wanted to avoid confusion for others
[13:37] <stroodlepup> hello?
[13:37] <seg> stroodlepup: hi!
[13:38] <hagrid> Twenty-three: I dont have nvidia, or ati. It is an intel video card.
[13:38] <nevyn> seg: gigs of ssd is way cheaper than gigs of ram still.
[13:38] <Hawkerz> esing, this also advises only having one efi partition per disk
[13:38] <stroodlepup> seg: does synaptic have ftp support?
[13:38] <nevyn> seg: in servers ssd's are considered consumables
[13:38] <hagrid> Twenty-three: thanks for your help, sorry, I have to go now. I'll come back to this channel later.
[13:38] <nevyn> you replace them every 2 years on your db server just to get the performance in write iops
[13:39] <stroodlepup> anyone? need help
[13:40] <seg> nevyn: yeah, I understand that, but as I said personally I place more value on raw storage, as my funding is finite, and the amounts of ram I would need to host a small database server are within my budget.
[13:40] <seg> nevyn: thankfully I dont need to fund any real operations ;D
[13:41] <monkey> I'm monkey
[13:41] <MonkeyDu1t> monkey  how nice
[13:41] <monkey> oh
[13:41] <stroodlepup> all: does synaptic have ftp support?
[13:42] <camilo> How do i reinstall an old driver through terminal, is there a folder where old module are stored?
[13:42] <nevyn> stroodlepup: no. but libapt does
[13:42] <monkey> How to learn English? it's hard
[13:42] <stroodlepup> nevyn: libapt?
[13:42] <nevyn> stroodlepup: synaptic doesn't have http, ftp ssh nfs or the ability to read packages from a filesystem
[13:43] <nevyn> stroodlepup: ask the real question.
[13:43] <treehau55> I have a critical command for fixing my graphics card issues that I need to run and I cant get it to work for the life of me, from what I can tell everything is okay: sudo update-alternatives --install /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu_GL.conf x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf 100 --slave /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules
[13:43] <treehau55> usage is: --install <link> <name> <path> <priority> [--slave <link> <name> <path>]
[13:43] <treehau55> everything is there, so dont understand why its spitting out the info screen every time
[13:44] <tsimpson> well you're missing the last <name> and <path> arguments for --slave
[13:44] <treehau55> oh crap
[13:44] <stroodlepup> nevyn: that was the question. i was using an ftp mirror for my app dowloads but synaptic does not have an ftp option anymore
[13:45] <monkey> Is there Asian?
[13:45] <treehau55> tsimpson, sometimes just takes another set of eyes I guess
[13:45] <nevyn> stroodlepup: it never did
[13:45] <nevyn> well it might have in repository editor but that's fixable
[13:46] <stroodlepup> gutsy did
[13:46] <MonkeyDu1t> monkey  what language?
[13:46] <monkey> Korean
[13:46] <monkey> you?
[13:46] <treehau55> ok the command is working, now its telling me update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules with a link.
[13:46] <MonkeyDu1t> !ko
[13:46] <monkey> real?
[13:47] <monkey> nice to meet you
[13:47] <camilo> I can't boot any GUI, anyone spare a second to help? I've been trying for 3/hrs
[13:47] <stroodlepup> nevyn: so, apt-get has ftp support?
[13:47] <treehau55> why can I not do sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb like the ubuntu help says to for fixing ATI hybrid graphics issues?
[13:47] <monkey> Where do you live?
[13:48] <Hawkerz> esing, here is another link -- this one advocates partitioning the drive in windows itself: http://www.howtogeek.com/99060/how-to-dual-boot-windows-8-and-linux-mint-on-the-same-pc/
[13:50] <esing> Hawkerz Thanks for the link
[13:50] <monkey> goodbye
[13:50] <esing> Hawkerz I try to add ubuntu manually in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[13:51] <esing> If nothing works I can still try another boot loader as gummiboot
[13:54] <TheCompWiz> Can someone help me figure out WTF is going wrong with my install from an external hard drive? ... I'm stuck in one of two places.
[13:54] <djlocus> lol
[13:54] <TheCompWiz> first... if I use the vmlinuz and initrd.gz from the .iso  I get to the point where it can't find the CD.
[13:54] <acovrig> I am trying to (re)add a canon mx860 and am getting Bad device-uri scheme "cnijnet" any ideas?
[13:55] <TheCompWiz> or rather... it complains that it can't find the CD...
[13:55] <bekks> TheCompWiz: Why do you use the vmlinuz/initrd from the CD?
[13:55] <djlocus> isnt it correct the only 2 ways to find someone is there ip and mac address
[13:55] <TheCompWiz> because I copied it from there.
[13:55] <bekks> TheCompWiz: Why?
[13:55] <TheCompWiz> if I use the hd-media ones (from the ubuntu website) it has the wrong kernel version... and tells me as much.
[13:56] <bekks> TheCompWiz: It has the wrong kernel version? What exactly are you doing there?
[13:56] <TheCompWiz> simply trying to build a install from hard drive.
[13:56] <djlocus> the ways to find someone is there IP ADDRESS AND MAC ADDRESS right?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: how do you mean?
[13:57] <bekks> TheCompWiz: Why dont you just install Ubuntu to your USB drive?
[13:57] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: not really.  That's *some* info ... but can be spoofed or tunneled.
[13:57] <djlocus> wait what tunnled?
[13:57] <TheCompWiz> bekks: long story short... because I can't.
[13:57] <djlocus> what can be tunnled?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: what are you trying to actually achieve?
[13:58] <Hawkerz> esing, i'll be around mostly
[13:58] <esing> Thanks for your support
[13:58] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: you can tunnel your connection through another peer... and it looks like it came from the other peer.  That does not mean the person is actually there.
[13:58] <djlocus> look i was wondering because i havnt got tracked yet
[13:58] <bekks> TheCompWiz: Well... in that case, I have to rest the case,
[13:59] <TheCompWiz> bekks: longer-story... I need installation media that has other boot options.
[13:59] <djlocus> thats why they have bouncers. bounces your ip every 2 secs
[13:59] <djlocus> or 5
[13:59] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: bouncers don't work.
[13:59] <djlocus> works for me
[13:59] <djlocus> so far
[13:59] <bekks> TheCompWiz: And why cant you first install ubuntu as usual, and add your installation options afterwards?
[14:00] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: from your perspective... my IP would look like I'm in Florida... but I'm actually on the other side of the globe right now.
[14:00] <djlocus> true
[14:00] <djlocus> and it can change every 2 or 5 secs
[14:00] <djlocus> all the way you set it
[14:00] <TheCompWiz> bekks: you're miss-interpreting what I'm saying.  I said BOOT options... not install options.
[14:00] <rudivs> I'm trying to get a sync a folder with my usb drive automatically when it is plugged in. It looks like udev + rsync is the best option?
[14:01] <djlocus> i been into illinois ,peoria police database and trying to delete the records of my cusin. never got into any trouble uey
[14:01] <raub> rudivs: that is what I would do but I am very lazy
[14:01] <djlocus> yet
[14:01] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: rsync is a good option if you only make changes on one side.  unison would be an alternative if you may make changes on both sides.
[14:02] <netlar> else if ( c == '\t' ){
[14:02] <netlar>                         putchar('/');
[14:02] <netlar>                         putchar('t');
[14:02] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, it should update both to whichever is the latest version. Does unison sync automatically, or do I need to run it each time?
[14:02] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: you'd need to run it each time.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: I just checked your IP from multiple DNS servers and it comes back the same every time
[14:03] <djlocus> whats my ip?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:03] <Pici> djlocus: Do you have actually have an Ubuntu support question?  If you're just looking to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:03] <djlocus> wtf
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: your IP isnt changing any, at all
[14:03] <djlocus> then......
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: your hostname still resolves to the same IP
[14:03] <djlocus> what do i need
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: so when I dig it at any DNS server online, I get that IP
[14:04] <TheCompWiz> djlocus:  to learn how networking works.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: you need to take offthe tinfoil hat]
[14:04] <TheCompWiz> ^5 to ActionParsnip
[14:04] <djlocus> god damit........
[14:04] <djlocus> how did you pull up my ip online?
[14:05] <TheCompWiz> what do you mean it doesn't work like it does in movies?
[14:05] <TheCompWiz> :D
[14:05] <djlocus> lol
[14:05] <bekks> djlocus: I just typed "/whois djlocus" into my IRC client.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: in my irc client. Typed:   /whois djlocus
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: gives:   djlocus<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:05] <ikonia> the identi is anonymous though, so it's ok ;)
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: ping c-50-158-176-196.hsd1.il.comcast.net     and get the IP
[14:06] <CatKiller> djlocus: Freenode does not hide hostnames.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: not hard
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> CatKiller: should do mine :)
[14:06] <CatKiller> ActionParsnip: You register for that or something and then they do?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> CatKiller: what does my whois say?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> CatKiller: i'm an ubuntu member, so I have a cloak
[14:07] <djlocus> how do you type it
[14:07] <djlocus> ?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: type what?
[14:07] <CatKiller> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[14:07] <CatKiller> Just googled it
[14:07] <djlocus> that thing you did
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: use the keyboard...
[14:07] <CatKiller> Ah well I don't need it myself
[14:07] <djlocus> i did
[14:07] <djlocus> lol
[14:07] <djlocus> didnt do anything
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: /whois ActionParsnip    is the command
[14:07] <CatKiller> Look in the "Freenode" window
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: then look in your info window
[14:09] <Hawkerz> esing, you could also run boot repair
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: I wouldnt worry about not having a hidden IP and whatnot
[14:09] <djlocus> i see. but how do you hide your self
[14:10] <CatKiller> I sent the link already
[14:10] <CatKiller> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[14:10] <djlocus> why?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: i am an Ubuntu Member, part of membership is a cloak
[14:10] <djlocus> lol...
[14:10] <djlocus> so you do alot of bad things little whore
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: erm...no
[14:11] <djlocus> lol. joking
[14:11] <MonkeyDu1t> djlocus  watch it now...
[14:11] <CatKiller> Seems that this discussion that's completely OT is going nowhere
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: to be honest I dont care about the cloak, its just a bonus imho
[14:11] <djlocus> whys that?
[14:11] <djlocus> i see
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: you do realise that hiding your iP does very little
[14:12] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, any reason why I couldn't do a 2-way sync with rsync?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: most users on Freenode do not hide their IP and nothing happens
[14:13] <djlocus> i know. im just saying
[14:13] <djlocus> it's just everytime i looked online at my ip it's changed
[14:13] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: because rsync isn't designed for 2-way.  There are ways to work around it... but they're more hack-ish.  unison was created for that exact reason... and nearly does everything the same as rsync.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: try using:  curl canihazip.org
[14:14] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: look at http://ipchicken.com  ... that will show you what your IP is.
[14:14] <beardface> everyone lease go buy a second ubuntu edge for your wife
[14:14] <beardface> she wants one.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: sorry:    curl icanhazip.com
[14:14] <Hawkerz> esing, according to this you also may not have a bootable partition  because youre using efi, which means grub doesn't know how to handle it
[14:15] <lagreca> Hi, folks! Is ubuntu 12.04.3 really coming tomorrow?
[14:15] <esing> Hawkerz I run boot repair already.
[14:15] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, but I'd have to do it manually each time, which is a headache. I get that it works better, but I'm wondering how serious the data risks would be if I used a 2-way rsync hack
[14:16] <djlocus> okay now whats my ip
[14:16] <esing> Hawkerz Before I run boot repair I was just booting to windows. After I run boot repair the system always starts up in grub's rescue prompt
[14:16] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: no arguments... so would we all.  You could make a cron-job that re-runs it every five minutes or so while plugged in...
[14:16] <MonkeyDu1t> lagreca  scroll down, august 22 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:17] <djlocus> nope a hidden ip
[14:17] <djlocus> :)
[14:17] <djlocus> try again
[14:18] <djlocus> starts with a 192.
[14:18] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: unfortunately... proper "raid" software doesn't support split-brain... and software file mirroring doesn't run automagically.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: still <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: no, 192 is your LAN IP, not out on the web
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: changing your LAN IP does nothing
[14:18] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: you're behind a NAT.  your public IP *IS* <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:18] <djlocus> fuck................
[14:18] <MonkeyDu1t> djlocus  please, your language
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: I hope you didnt pay for this IP switching
[14:18] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, have you ever looked at usbsync (http://wellhoefer.info/usbsync/)?   Only one replication per run.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: the internet as a whole uses your IP to get data to you. But to what end would someone 'trace' you>
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: what would they achieve
[14:20] <djlocus> to kill you. or get put in jail
[14:21] <djlocus> thats what they will achieve
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: not going to happen
[14:21] <djlocus> whys that?
[14:21] <bazhang> !ot | djlocus
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: yo've been wathing too many movies mate
[14:21] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[14:21] <djlocus> yeah XD
[14:21] <fossjon> !ot | fossjon
[14:21] <djlocus> how come they cant put you in jail then?
[14:21] <djlocus> why you say not going to happen
[14:21] <fossjon> for going off topic?
[14:22] <bazhang> djlocus, this is not the channel for chit chat
[14:22] <fossjon> i didnt know it was a jailable offense
[14:22]  * TheCompWiz is still hoping to figure out why hd-media doesn't use the same kernel as the iso.
[14:22] <Hawkerz> esing, can you still boot windows?
[14:22] <djlocus> baz..... chit?
[14:22] <djlocus> lol
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: go research credible sites. You dont even know what you are afraid of and what yoyu have in place to apparently 'combat' it doesn't work. At best this is a farce and I don't want to waste any more time on somebody who clearly has no idea what they are talking about
[14:23] <bazhang> djlocus, /join #ubuntu-offtopic dont continue here
[14:23] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, thanks... looks like ubuntu one or dropbox will probably be the solution here
[14:23] <esing> Hawkerz Yep, I just need to write 'exit' in grub's rescue prompt, and then Iam dropped into Windows
[14:23] <esing> Currently I try to setup rEFInd
[14:24] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: I don't suppose you know anything about building your own install disk...  (other than dumping the .iso to a thumb-drive)
[14:24] <djlocus> wtf i was just asking a fucking question. seems like i can do that
[14:24] <MonkeyDu1t> djlocus  stop swearing and stop the discussion
[14:24] <BluesKaj> !language | djlocus
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: you can chroot to the minimal ISO and build up by installing packages etc.
[14:25] <Hawkerz> esing, this seems like a lot of work...kind of shocking
[14:25] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: that's the problem... I really can't.
[14:26] <esing> Hawkerz I agree, I was expecting some difficulties, but it seems having new laptops can be challenging with linux
[14:28] <esing> Also sony's efi bios is really weak, I don't even see the efi boot entries in it
[14:28] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: it seems that the boot images on the .iso do not support the "iso-scan/filename" boot parameter... but the ones located in the ubuntu-repo
[14:28] <bhavesh> I have Ubuntu 12.04.2 installed with HOME as a separate partition. Can I install elementary OS and make it share the same HOME partition?
[14:28] <TheCompWiz> do... but are running the wrong kernel version.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: http://www.slashgeek.net/2012/12/26/create-your-own-custom-ubuntu-based-linux-distro/
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: http://alllinuxstuff.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/five-tools-to-build-your-own-ubuntu.html
[14:29] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: I'm not trying to build my own .iso
[14:29] <MonkeyDu1t> bhavesh  no, because ubuntu and elementary are not the same, /home also contains config files
[14:29] <bhavesh> MonkeyDu1t: okay, thanks.
[14:31] <philinux> TheCompWiz: what are you trying to do?
[14:32] <Hawkerz> esing, can i see your /etc/fstab?
[14:32] <TheCompWiz> install from iso file rather than from dumping the iso to a thumb-drive.
[14:32] <TheCompWiz> which ubuntu supposedly supports... but apparently doesn't work.
[14:32] <hagrid> Could someone help with this -ubuntu 12.04.2 fresh install, on booting, gets stuck on purple screen (I think its called plymouth).
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: well, grub2 can boot ISO files, so it will work. You will need a small partition to hold the file as well as Grub
[14:33] <esing2> Hawkerz,  http://ix.io/7hp
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: you can then install ubuntu to the remaining space
[14:34] <Hawkerz> esing2, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Microsoft_Windows_installed_in_UEFI-GPT_mode <- extra troubleshooting
[14:34] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: When ubuntu installer starts... it remounts the ramdisk... and suddenly can't find the cdrom anymore.
[14:34] <TheCompWiz> for 12.04.2 iso anyway.
[14:34] <p0wp0w|AWAY> I love irssi - awesome
[14:34] <matheus> hi
[14:35] <Skizu> Hey how do I use the console to hit a website as if i was viewing it?
[14:36] <TheCompWiz> curl
[14:36] <Pici> Skizu: w3m
[14:36] <Pici> Depending on what exactly you want to see, of course.
[14:36] <TheCompWiz> you could also use lynx
[14:37] <Hawkerz> just seems like some weird combo of things going wrong esing2 -- you could try booting with the boot flag 'pci=nocrs'
[14:37] <MonkeyDu1t> Skizu  or links
[14:37] <hagrid> Hi, can I ask a question here?
[14:37] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: any other suggestions?
[14:37] <TheCompWiz> hagrid: I think you just did.
[14:38] <hagrid> TheCompWiz: sorry, no one answered, so I thought, no-one saw it.
[14:39] <TheCompWiz> I didn't see any question...
[14:39] <MonkeyDu1t> hagrid  no one answered, because no one knwos, be more patient
[14:40] <auronandace> !nomodeset | hagrid
[14:41] <hagrid> ubottu: I already tried 'nomodeset', with and without 'quiet splash', with the same result.
[14:41] <TheCompWiz> hagrid: you could always try a textmode install instead of graphical...
[14:42] <hagrid> TheCompWiz: How do i do that?
[14:42] <bazhang> !mini | hagrid
[14:43] <TheCompWiz> use the minimal cd.... like bazhang suggested... but keep in mind... if the install has graphics issues... the GUI might as well.
[14:44] <hagrid> TheCompWiz: So, should I reinstall ubuntu? That would take a lot of time, as my internet speed is quite slow.
[14:46] <hagrid> TheCompWIz: Actually, I cannot use the internet, since I use a pppoe connection, which I dont know how to set.
[14:47] <IdleOne> !pppoe
[14:48] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, do you know if it's possible to hook a script to the unmount process, in the same way that udev can run a script on mount?
[14:49] <hagrid> Idleone: I can't boot ubuntu, so i dont think i can use pppoe in the first place.
[14:49] <IdleOne> hagrid: ah, well first you need to get ubuntu booted :)
[14:49] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: I believe so... but I only ever use my own udev rules.  I never rely on the auto-mount thingie in ubuntu.
[14:50] <hagrid> IdleOne: Yes, that was my question in the first place.
[14:55] <hagrid> I get stuck on purple screen on booting ubuntu 12.04.2, have tried 'nomodeset' already, any other suggestions?
[14:55] <petapetapeta> I have just tried to set up a RAID and it was rather easy. But now I see that the sysem reports that it's 2x750gb instead of 2x3tb
[14:55] <petapetapeta> What could be the reason for this?
[14:56] <bazhang> !md5 | hagrid
[14:56] <bazhang> hagrid, md5 the iso prior to burning, do the disk integrity check following that
[14:57] <bazhang> hagrid, if the hashes do NOT match the iso is corrupt
[14:57] <hagrid> bazhang: ok thanks, i will try that.
[14:57] <bazhang> !hashes | hagrid
[14:59] <csj> hey, on the Ubuntu certified laptops page, what is the difference between a laptop being "Certified" vs "Enabled"?
[14:59] <csj> does "Enabled" mean Ubuntu works, but with a couple quirks?
[15:00] <AtomDream_> can someone please help me
[15:00] <AtomDream_> mozet mne ktoto pomo4 ?
[15:00] <bazhang> AtomDream_, with what, ask a question
[15:00] <AtomDream_> bazhang: ok, im a complete newb
[15:00] <AtomDream_> bazhang: installed ubuntu 12.04 lts
[15:01] <bazhang> !manual | AtomDream_ have a read
[15:01] <AtomDream_> bazhang: and no apps i nstalled are working
[15:01] <AtomDream_> bazhang: yes ok
[15:01] <bazhang> AtomDream_, not working is not very useful. give us the exact errors, with pastebins of commands etc
[15:02] <bazhang> !paste | AtomDream_
[15:02] <hagrid> bazhang: So the MD5 hash is correct, how do i check disk integrity?
[15:02] <AtomDream_> hmmm
[15:02] <AtomDream_> ok
[15:02] <thecodethinker> Will myr be open source
[15:02] <thecodethinker> ?
[15:03] <bazhang> hagrid, should be a menu choice once you burn and boot the dvd/usb whichever it it; which was it, btw
[15:03] <AtomDream_> (process:4432): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. 	Using the fallback 'C' locale. Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/ccsm", line 94, in <module>     import ccm   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ccm/__init__.py", line 1, in <module>     from ccm.Conflicts import *   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ccm/Conflicts.py", line 26, in <module>     from ccm.Constants import *   File "/usr/lib/
[15:03] <bazhang> thecodethinker, mir?
[15:03] <hagrid> bazhang: it was a live usb.
[15:03] <AtomDream_> bazhang: (process:4432): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. 	Using the fallback 'C' locale. Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/ccsm", line 94, in <module>     import ccm   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ccm/__init__.py", line 1, in <module>     from ccm.Conflicts import *   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ccm/Conflicts.py", line 26, in <module>     from ccm.Constants import *   File "
[15:03] <thecodethinker> bazhang: yeah sorry... i forget if its a y or an i :3
[15:03] <bazhang> hagrid, used what to "burn"
[15:03] <hagrid> bazhang: I did check the live usb, it said no errors found.
[15:04] <hagrid> bazhang: I used, lilicreator first, then universal usb installer.
[15:05] <bazhang> hagrid, never heard of those, sorry; I've had most success with unetbootin; at any rate try to re "burn" the iso, as it's at times known to be a bit flaky and not work straightaway
[15:06] <IdleOne> bazhang: both those apps are windows USB creators, both work.
[15:06] <AtomDream_> Are there any russians that could help me with Ubuntu ???? having some problems here
[15:06] <MonkeyDu1t> !ru
[15:07] <bazhang> IdleOne, unetbootin also has a windows version
[15:07] <AtomDream_> ty
[15:07] <bazhang> that works
[15:07] <IdleOne> bazhang: indeed, the best so far.
[15:07] <hagrid> bazhang: lilicreator is linuxlivecreator, universal usb installer is the one on pendrivelinux.com, which is recommended by the ubuntu site itself. I am actually trying to dual boot with windows 8, so reinstalling ubuntu would mean running boot repair again, whihc I think is risky.
[15:08] <AtomDream_> i cant even join a channel lol
[15:08] <AtomDream_> wtf
[15:08] <AtomDream_> #ubuntu-ru Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[15:09] <IdleOne> !register | AtomDream_
[15:10] <Remowylliams> Hello everyone, is there a way to get less to not clear the screen when it exits when man is using it as the pager? I know I can change my PAGER to use more but the man command is braindead and doesn't let me page back.
[15:12] <hagrid> bazhang: Any other suggestions?
[15:13] <somsip> Remowylliams: b does not page backwards for you in man?
[15:13] <blz> Hello, I recently set a service to start only when I explicitly call `sudo service servicename start`.  How can I revert to its original configuration of starting on login?
[15:13] <Remowylliams> somsip: not if I'm using /bin/more as the PAGER
[15:13] <bazhang> hagrid, yes, try to reburn, as I said
[15:13]  * TheCompWiz is quite fond of the page-up and page-down keys.
[15:13] <blz> I completely forgot how I changed it the first time =/
[15:14] <TheCompWiz> blz update-rc.d servicename defaults
[15:14] <TheCompWiz> (sudo)
[15:14] <blz> TheCompWiz, that's the one!  Thank you!
[15:14] <blz> TheCompWiz, I'm getting "system start/stop links for /path/to/service already exist"
[15:14] <hagrid> bazhang: yes, but reinstalling it would mess up grub, right? and for dual booting , i would have to run boot repair again, isnt it?
[15:15] <TheCompWiz> blz add a -f to force it.
[15:15] <blz> TheCompWiz, I just did `enable`
[15:15] <blz> TheCompWiz, hopefully that doesn't do anything unexpected
[15:15] <TheCompWiz> blz I've had it do that several times... not sure what causes that error... but it's usually wrong.
[15:16] <blz> TheCompWiz, seems to be working now.  Thanks much!
[15:16] <TheCompWiz> np :)
[15:19] <hagrid> I get stuck on purple screen on booting ubuntu 12.04.2, have tried 'nomodeset' already, any other suggestions?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> hagrid: what gpu do you use?
[15:21] <hagrid> ActionParsnip: there is no ati or nvidia stuff, just plain intel graphics card
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> hagrid: does the system have a make and model?
[15:22] <hagrid> yes, its a lenovo ideapad z580
[15:22] <hagrid> ActionParsnip: yes, its a lenovo ideapad z580
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> hagrid: do you have the latest BIOS?
[15:24] <hagrid> ActionParsnip: How do I check whether its latest? Its a phoenix SecureCore Tiano bios..
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> hagrid: sudo dmidecode -t 1    will tell you bios version
[15:30] <hagrid>  I get stuck on purple screen on booting ubuntu 12.04.2, have tried 'nomodeset' already, any other suggestions?
[15:30] <histo> !md5sum | hagrid
[15:31] <AtomDream_> bazhang: can you please tell them to unban me on #ubuntu-ru, i wont curse anymore
[15:31] <hagrid> histo: I have already tried that.
[15:31] <bazhang> AtomDream_, #ubuntu-irc for this
[15:31] <histo> hagrid: and have you verifying your installation media as well?
[15:32] <hagrid> histo: Yes. I checked the Live usb for defects, and it said zero errors
[15:33] <histo> hagrid: don't check it for defects compare the md5sum to the one online using the instructions from ubottu
[15:34] <hagrid> histo: Yes, already done that. the MD5 hash is correct
[15:37] <valfar101> first time I use xchat, you guys think smuxi is better?
[15:37] <Andres75> hey dudes can anyone help with mounting a windows share under ubuntu?
[15:38] <Andres75> the folder is on a server machine with AD
[15:38] <Andres75> permissions  set to everybody full control
[15:38] <Andres75> the ubuntu machine is not in the AD
[15:40] <Andres75>  //SERVER/TC /mnt/ntserver cifs uid=1000 user=HOME\Administrator password=grass 0 0
[15:40] <Andres75> in /etc/fstab says bad line
[15:40] <Hawkerz> esing, any luck?
[15:40] <valfar101> Just use the "connect to server" tool that comes with nautilus. Open files in Ubuntu, click on the "files" menu and then where it says "connect top Server" there you put the ip for the windows machine as well as the name of the windows shared folder
[15:41] <Andres75> its ubuntu server I have no gui
[15:41] <Andres75> but thanks for tryinh
[15:41] <Andres75> g
[15:41] <TJ-> Andres75: Are you able to use smbclient to connect to the AD server?
[15:42] <Andres75> I tried but I'm not sure what to expect
[15:42] <Andres75> at a certain point it didnt give any error, but it wouldnt work
[15:42] <TJ-> Andres75: Fetch a file from the share. If you can do that, you know the issue is just in the mount config
[15:42] <linux-ninja> having an issue with a Ubuntu box, there is a directory mounted from a CIFS share, when I tried making changes to the mount it doesn't allow me to, but under a windows client the client is able to make change to the materials within, any input into this issue is greatly apreciated.
[15:44] <Andres75>  /usr/bin/smbclient \\\\server\\TC grass
[15:44] <Andres75>  NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[15:44] <linux-ninja> even when I tried chown the directory I keep getting chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/coop': Not a directory
[15:45] <Andres75> grass is the windows server admin password
[15:45] <Andres75> (but it's not password protected so I'm not sure)
[15:45] <TJ-> Andres75: I'm thinking your issue may be with Kerberos. I would think the client will need a valid ticket in order to access the shares.
[15:46] <Andres75> even if I set them to Everybody-> sharing permissions Everybody -> Security?
[15:51] <TJ-> Andres75: Maybe this will help? http://techcommons.stanford.edu/topics/miscellaneous/mounting-active-directory-windows-cifs-file-share-ubuntu-linux
[15:52] <Andres75> i think that worked at a point it threw no errors
[15:52] <Andres75> I tried then to remount it and it said it was busy
[15:52] <Andres75> was that a good sign?
[15:55] <jhonnyboii> Hi
[15:55] <jhonnyboii> anyone here?
[15:56] <inclusa> Hi
[15:56] <Kh4l1d> yap
[15:56] <Andres75> mount -t cifs //SERVER/TC /mnt/ntserver -o username=Administrator,domain=home.ad,iocharset=utf8
[15:56] <Andres75> this asks for a password
[15:56] <Andres75> I input it
[15:56] <Andres75> and no errors are thrown
[15:56] <jhonnyboii> anyone know how i can install a fan controll ?
[15:56] <Andres75> how do I see if it's working
[15:56] <jhonnyboii> got a HP laptop
[15:56] <jhonnyboii> HP 635
[15:57] <bazhang> jhonnyboii, hardware or software
[15:57] <jhonnyboii> channel?
[15:57] <TJ-> Andres75: If it worked, look at the files in /mnt/ntserver
[15:57] <Kh4l1d> ubuntu-indonesia.com
[15:57] <bazhang> !id | Kh4l1d
[15:57] <Andres75> yep, it's there
[15:57] <Andres75> thanks TJ
[15:58] <bazhang> !sensors | jhonnyboii
[15:58] <Andres75> how do I make it permanent
[15:58] <Andres75> ??
[15:58] <Kh4l1d> ubottu: indonesian ?
[15:58] <Kh4l1d> ubottu: di sana sepi
[16:00] <TJ-> Andres75: Make sure its in the /etc/fstab, but I'd recommend you don't include the username/password; instead put them in a separate locked-down file (0700) and point to it from the mount options
[16:00] <IdleOne> !indonesian | Kh4l1d
[16:01] <Andres75> I gather I don't have to put all the line in right?
[16:02] <Andres75> just //SERVER/TC /mnt/ntserver -o username=Administrator,domain=home.ad,iocharset=utf8
[16:02] <Andres75> and append the password?
[16:02] <Andres75> like so: //SERVER/TC /mnt/ntserver -o username=Administrator,password=grass,domain=home.ad,iocharset=utf8
[16:04] <Andres75> it works!!
[16:04] <Andres75> Thank you!
[16:04] <IdleOne> !pm | shihan
[16:05] <IdleOne> shihan: try #bash for help with your script and please to message random people
[16:05] <IdleOne> sahil: ^^
[16:05] <IdleOne> sorry shihan
[16:05] <sahil> k..
[16:05] <IdleOne> err please don't*
[16:06] <sahil> sure...actually i did to avoid pastebin..
[16:07] <TriBeCa99> Will I be able to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a fakeraid 10 array?
[16:08] <holstein> TriBeCa99: nothing about ubuntu 12.04 will prevent that from happening
[16:09] <Cyrax> just 1 last question. Where can i find guide how to run ubuntu from a CD/dvd?
[16:09] <TriBeCa99> holstein: I know in earlier versions the installer couldn't recognize raid 10, which is why I ask.
[16:10] <ffio> i am installing xubuntu-desktop, how can i check which packages i am installing ?
[16:10] <TriBeCa99> I just want to make sure before buying 16 $300 drives for 4 workstations that I will be able to get Ubuntu on there without purchasing additional drives.
[16:10] <holstein> TriBeCa99: http://www.linuxplanet.com/index.php/linuxplanet/tutorials/6518/1/
[16:10] <linux-ninja> After mounting the CIFS share is there a way to change the ownership?
[16:11] <holstein> TriBeCa99: i would test otherwise before purchasing, or save reciepts, as i do with *all* purchases of hardware that is not intended for the OS i am going to be running
[16:11] <linux-ninja> I tried and not even root can change the ownership.
[16:11] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: dmraid is supported, but you'll probably want the alternative/minimal/net/server installer rather than desktop live CD
[16:11] <holstein> !mini | TriBeCa99
[16:12] <TriBeCa99> yeah we can return anything that doesn't work out, but it would be a pain so I wanted to research in advance
[16:12] <TriBeCa99> thanks for the link, reading now
[16:12] <linux-ninja> When I mount the cifs share it keeps coming back as root:root , i woudl like to asign it diferent group and user
[16:14] <holstein> linux-ninja: you cant chown the mountpoint?
[16:14] <eduhat> i have a ubuntu VPS with gnome pre-installed. How can I access it?
[16:15] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: I've installed RAID stripe+mirror (0+1 or 1+0 ) on lots of Ubuntu servers. For desktop live CD installs it used to be the case that you'd have to drop to a shell prompt and prepare the disk array manually before continuing with the partitioning/file-system selection. I've not done it with recent releases of desktop so I'm not sure about those now.
[16:15] <eduhat> How can I access the gnome desktop environment
[16:15] <holstein> eduhat: i would ask the preinstallers how you are intended to customize it
[16:15] <k1l> eduhat: with ssh. a desktop running on a server is not recommended
[16:15] <linux-ninja> holstein, i think I will have to uid and gid the actual mount which sucks anyways, I will report back in a few
[16:15] <holstein> !chown
[16:15] <eduhat> I know its really not a good idea.  I've always had a standalone drive to install on, then built the RAID 10, then mounted it to root. I need to be sure before buying and building these workstations that I can get ubuntu on a raid 10 array with no other drives, or else I'll
[16:19] <TriBeCa99> have to go with a different architecture.
[16:19] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Why not do a test run using a virtual machine?
[16:19] <N2TOH> hi folks
[16:20] <TriBeCa99> TJ-: how would I do that? Sorry, not immediately obvious to me.
[16:20] <k1l> !wine | AtomDream_
[16:20] <TJ-> eduhat: The installation history should be in "/var/log/apt/history.log" so you can 'grep' that file to create a list of installed packages, and then 'diff' it against the list installed by ubuntu-minimal
[16:21] <k1l> AtomDream_: wine is quite complicated and alot of programs need extra workarounds in wine. so better ask their support
[16:21] <eduhat> TJ-: sounds good. Just what I needed!
[16:21] <N2TOH> out of ignorance and before I spend all day asking google who flash player has gotten all wacky  on my 12.10 system, do any of you know why?
[16:21] <AtomDream_> I have a problem with running a game on Wine, I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 LTS When I try to execute game launcher, I get the following output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5985579/, but I expected it to work normally.
[16:21] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Create a VM with 4 virtual disks and then run the installer and see if you can configure them using dmraid (the fakeraid tool).
[16:21] <bazhang> AtomDream_, check the appdb then
[16:21] <sere> question : why would granule log me out when I try to open a deck..
[16:21] <bazhang> !appdb | AtomDream_
[16:22] <bazhang> AtomDream_, then join #winehq for help
[16:22] <AtomDream_> .....
[16:22] <bazhang> AtomDream_, /join #winehq
[16:22] <AtomDream_> вы заелись господа
[16:22] <bazhang> AtomDream_, english here only
[16:22] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Or alternatively, test it on a host with the fakeraid controller and 4 disks and configure the 4 raw disk into a VM and try the installer and make sure it can configure the array and then install onto the 'fake' devices without messing up the raw devices
[16:23] <AtomDream_> bazhang: i think you understand what i mean
[16:23] <TriBeCa99> TJ-: It's the first 7 words of your instructions I have no idea how to carry out. Actually even just the first 3. I should perhaps explain that I'm not an actual IT person, just a scientist who happens to also be a hardware enthusiast.
[16:23] <bazhang> AtomDream_, I do, and the channel for help is #winehq
[16:23] <bazhang> AtomDream_, first check the appdb, which I linked to you
[16:24] <AtomDream_> bazhang: appdb says it dosent work, i see people on youtube running it freely
[16:24] <N2TOH> what channel for Flash player issues?
[16:24] <bazhang> AtomDream_, so ask for help in the correct channel
[16:24] <bazhang> AtomDream_, that channel is #winehq
[16:24] <AtomDream_> bazhang: ty for support
[16:25] <N2TOH> bazhang: do you know the correct channel for dealing with flash player?
[16:25] <bazhang> N2TOH, ask the channel here and see if someone knows
[16:26] <N2TOH> bazhang: I did, guess I just have to wait. Thank you for the input
[16:26] <AtomDream_> bazhang: im getting paranoid bcz nothing works for me, and suddenly start working for no reason, and then stops working for no reason. Some shaman business ....
[16:27] <Hawkerz> things don't happen for no reason, in general
[16:28] <AtomDream_> Hawkerz: im kinda new to linux
[16:28] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Ahhh! I think you have a steep learning curve to climb then, because you're wanting to do something that is quite technical and does require some insight or experience
[16:28] <AtomDream_> Hawkerz: so its usuall to say "for no reason"
[16:28] <bazhang> !ot | AtomDream_
[16:29] <esing> Hawkerz Nope, it isn't booting at all anymroe :)
[16:30] <Hawkerz> esing, what changed? i mean, was there any apparent cause?
[16:30] <AtomDream_> bazhang: реально зажрались
[16:30] <esing> Hawkerz I uninstalled grub and moved grub away from /boot/, and then I added refind with efibootmgr and put it to position 1, but it's not appearing on startup
[16:30] <wutr> Hi, is there anyone that could help me work out why my monitor resolution is not detected? Using "radeon" driver, VGA (analog) cable to Dell 2009W LCD
[16:31] <esing> Hawkerz I made a refind boot usb, I'll try to start linux with it
[16:31] <Hawkerz> good luck
[16:31] <esing> Thanks
[16:32] <Hawkerz> did you install grub to the mbr? i'm not really clear on how grub is attempting to be compatible with efi
[16:35] <sahil> icelite <--- this guy/girl is repeatedly disturbing me with nonsense pm about girls and watever,i wish to block him
[16:35] <icelite> I don't think so
[16:35] <icelite> I'm new here
[16:35] <icelite> I have to fix my VM
[16:35] <icelite> brb
[16:35] <compdoc> sahil, use /ignore icelite
[16:36] <k1l> sahil: please report such incidents in #ubuntu-ops
[16:36] <sahil>  /ignore icelite
[16:36] <darkelfjuggalo> Can someone tell me Adium is?
[16:36] <compdoc> sahil, without the space in front
[16:37] <bekks> darkelfjuggalo: Adium is a Windows-based instant messaging program.
ohk...thnx
[16:37] <darkelfjuggalo> so it is like the Pidgin I use to get here?
 ok sure..
[16:43] <darkelfjuggalo> is alsa the default sound driver in Ubuntu?
[16:43] <themanwithnoface> Are VIM questions appropriate here?  i have very basic VIM questions, just install 7.4 and need help with color schemes
[16:43] <icelite> yes darkelfjuggalo
[16:43] <icelite> its quite common I think
[16:44] <themanwithnoface> *installed
[16:44] <darkelfjuggalo> is there a better driver to use, or does it really matter?
[16:44] <IdleOne> themanwithnoface: try #vim
[16:44] <themanwithnoface> IdleOne: on freenode?
[16:44] <IdleOne> yes
[16:45] <themanwithnoface> cannot send to their channel, it's a simple question , any vim users here?
[16:46] <bazhang> themanwithnoface, register then
[16:46] <themanwithnoface> i have the molokai colorscheme   the '.vim'  file in the correct place in the colors folder in
[16:46] <doomlord_> try #prgramming aswell
[16:46] <themanwithnoface> okay
[16:46] <themanwithnoface> no vim users here?
[16:46] <doomlord_> but not #emacs
[16:46] <SolarAquarion> awesome isn't showing in lightdm
[16:47] <SolarAquarion> fix or something?
[16:47] <darkelfjuggalo> anacron, for General usage, is this important to keep?
[16:47] <SolarAquarion> Tried to do the NoShow=false
[16:47] <SolarAquarion> but it didn't work
[16:48] <IdleOne> !register | themanwithnoface You need to register to speak there
[16:49] <figure002> !topic
[16:55] <Suhas> how to open Trash through terminal in ubuntu?????
[16:56] <IdleOne> !trash | Suhas
[16:56] <darkelfjuggalo> Apparmor:  purpose is unclear to me
[16:57] <darkelfjuggalo> what is Apparmor?
[16:57] <purezen> Hey guys..! I recently filed some bugs in Ubuntu on Launchpad.. How do I know if they are triaged properly..?
[16:58] <Suhas> but i'm unable to open it through nautilus i used this path: /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[16:59] <Suhas> but i'm unable to open it through nautilus i used this path: /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash : ubottu
[17:00] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: It's an easier-to-use alternative to SELinux, basically
[17:01] <darkelfjuggalo> TJ- not Familiar with SELinux, but i found the wiki, essentially is is security for policy violation?
[17:01] <TJ-> Suhas: This works for me: "ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
[17:02] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Yes, it protects the system from malicious misuse of an application beyond its legitimate requirements, by blocking access to resources it has no business with
[17:02] <Suhas> but how do i open it through nautilus : TJ-
[17:03] <TriBeCa99> TJ-: Sorry had to talk to a colleague. What I'm going to do is just get the UBUNTU installer to create a small RAID 1 partition on the drives, install on that, and then set up the rest of the drive space in a RAID 10 after ubuntu is installed
[17:03] <TJ-> Suhas: Use the "Rubbish Bin" link in the left navigation pane
[17:03] <darkelfjuggalo> ok, that is much clearer, i understand the policy it is enforcing
[17:03] <TriBeCa99> I've done that before, so I'll just have to pore over a few how-to's to remember exactly how it's done
[17:04] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: I don't recall it being too difficult, as long a dmraid uses the correct metadata scheme to match the controllers
[17:04] <Suhas> i used ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ but it says no such directory : TJ-
[17:04] <themanwithnoface> is freenode supposed to take forever to send the confirmation email to registe ron irc???
[17:04] <TJ-> Suhas: Then maybe it doesn't exist? What version of Ubuntu is it?
[17:05] <bazhang> themanwithnoface, ask in #freenode
[17:05] <IdleOne> themanwithnoface: it may have gone to your spam folder
[17:05] <TJ-> themanwithnoface: There was a notice last night about a 4 hour outage that would stop registration emails; as far as I know that isn't still in effect
[17:05] <Cyrax> I need help. I installed ubuntu so its in the startup where I can choose windows 8 or ubuntu,when I choose ubuntu,it somethign about it doesnt find it or something wrong.. i can't explain exact. But how do I fix it? i want to use ubuntu from a DVD only
[17:06] <themanwithnoface> wow that is JUST my luck man, can't get this dumb vim question answered...  more googling...  thanks for the info TJ
[17:06] <themanwithnoface> not in spam
[17:07] <gordonjcp> !ask | themanwithnoface
[17:07] <Suhas> 12.04 customized, actually  i tried opening it and it had worked but recently my system crashed and i had to reinstall it, now it doesn't work :TJ-
[17:07] <Pici> themanwithnoface: again, freenode help should be asked in #freenode.  #ubuntu doesn't control this irc network.
[17:08] <darkelfjuggalo> Appmenu-gtk and appmenu-gtk3 ; packages.ubuntu and launchpad have a limited explanation, Wiki.ubuntu has no entry ; i understand it works for dbus, but I am not clear on what Dbus is for
[17:09] <Cyrax> Anyway i can fix it so the ubuntu starts like it should?
[17:10] <TJ-> Suhas: So recreate it: "mkdir -p ~/.local/share/Trash/{files,info}"  - or, if the user directory was damaged as it sounds like, create a brand new user account and transfer your user files to it, so the system files are correctly created and available
[17:10] <bazhang> Cyrax, you want to use ubuntu from the live dvd only?
[17:10] <N2TOH> how do you rollback the automatic updates to see where the new code broke you machine?
[17:11] <Cyrax> yes.. not from computer,, just from a DVD
[17:11] <bazhang> Cyrax, then boot from it
[17:11] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Dbus is for inter-process communications
[17:11] <Cyrax> how? something is wrogn so i can't
[17:11] <Cyrax> *wrong
[17:11] <bazhang> Cyrax, set in bios to choose dvd/cd first
[17:11] <darkelfjuggalo> ok and qt is the next on my list?
[17:12] <Cyrax> where is that choice? boot options?  adn what do i choose there?
[17:12] <bazhang> Cyrax, the bios is the first thing you see, hit esc, f12 or the like
[17:13] <bazhang> Cyrax, change the boot order to look for the dvd drive first
[17:13] <subcool> can somone help me with my old kubuntu 10.0
[17:13] <subcool> it disabled the networking, and i cant re-enable it..
[17:13] <Cyrax> i know.. and then u have optiosn to choose.. advanced options. i got a asus intel-core i5 (3rd generation) Ram 8GB,64 bit
[17:13] <bazhang> subcool, what version
[17:14] <subcool> bazhang, 10? maybe.. idk
[17:14] <bazhang> subcool, ten point what
[17:14] <subcool> idk
[17:14] <subcool> im on a usb-gparted live disk now.
[17:14] <bazhang> subcool, its desktop? its eol
[17:15] <subcool> yeah.. i imagined..
[17:15] <bazhang> !eol | subcool
[17:15] <subcool> but i need it to have internet to upgrade it
[17:15] <neutrondude> any1 here know whether it is possible to install direct x 10/ 11 on ubunut
[17:15] <neutrondude> *ubuntu, using wine
[17:15] <subcool> how do i re-start or something the networking
[17:15] <sere> question : why would granule log me out when I try to open a deck..
[17:15] <TJ-> subcool: "sudo service networking restart
[17:16] <subcool> TJ!!!!!!
[17:16] <subcool> TJ-, hey man.. -
[17:16] <subcool> how do i do that while booted into the gparted.. chrun or something right?
[17:17] <TJ-> subcool: I thought you wanted to restart networking in the running environment; you cant' restart one that *isn't* running!
[17:17] <subcool> :/ - yeah.. im kinda desperate..
[17:17] <Paulo_neto> hello, how do i make a dvd from .vod files?
[17:17] <TJ-> subcool: You'd have to start a terminal; never had to do that using gparted so you'll have to figure it out
[17:17] <subcool> somehow my networking died.. - and its kubuntu 10.XX
[17:17] <histo> !burn | Paulo_neto
[17:17] <subcool> or maybe even older
[17:18] <TJ-> subcool: Maybe you can switch to another tty? Using Ctrl+Alt+F2 through F6 ?
[17:18] <Guest4392> subcool, try this : "sudo dhclient eth0 up"
[17:18] <subcool> well, thats a simple command, i could make it happen.
[17:18] <subcool> it disabled the networking, and it refuses to let me reenable wifi
[17:18] <TheCompWiz> any ubuntu related grub/syslinux know-it-alls in here?
[17:18] <subcool> TJ-, i could boot it up and do it normally- its operational, but-- the wifi is dead for some reason.
[17:18] <TJ-> subcool: Not sure which tty gparted will be running on but you can switch amongst any active ttys using Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F7 (if you have tty1 ... tty7)
[17:19] <x-s4nd3r> Is it safe to delete all these files by clicking "Localizations" in BleachBit? Here are the files that will be deleted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5985771/ so should I do it or not? (is it safe?)
[17:19] <DasEi> I can't find sensors-detect no more, how I go about finding correct modules for cpu-temperature ?
[17:19] <TJ-> subcool: Maybe it needs to authenticate? Which implies needing wpa_supplicant configuring
[17:19] <subcool> TJ-, nah..
[17:19] <subcool> TJ-, when i righ click it- it says netowrking disabled, bbut wont le tme enable it
[17:20] <x-s4nd3r> Is it safe to delete all these files by clicking "Localizations" in BleachBit? Here are the files that will be deleted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5985771/ so should I do it or not? (is it safe?)
[17:20] <Paulo_neto> thanks
[17:20] <TJ-> subcool: Sounds like a missing driver; maybe the wifi uses a proprietary binary blob
[17:21] <subcool> TJ-, its worked before-
[17:21] <subcool> i know its someting stupid, this is an old laptop
[17:21] <TJ-> subcool: OK, well you need to check out the logs in /var/log/ for clues; We can't guess for you :D
[17:21] <subcool> id like to upgrade it to 12. but- i need the internet to work so i can dl the new image
[17:21] <subcool> TJ-, your guesses are better than mine
[17:21] <TJ-> DasEi: /usr/sbin/sensors-detect, in package lm-sensors
[17:22] <TJ-> subcool: I'm guessing you split Coke in it!
[17:22] <grandpa> Hello :-) anyone who can help me with virtualbox??
[17:23] <subcool> TJ-,  which log would be helpful?
[17:23] <DasEi> TJ-: thank you, I try now.. (have so oc installed lm-sensors, but OS doesn't sensors-detect and also ubotto tells no such package), well I'll look
[17:24] <grandpa> there is like 1000+ ppl in here and no one can help?
[17:24] <TJ-> subcool: All of them! Sounds like it got messed up, there should be clues. Start with syslog and kern.log and widen the search if needed
[17:24] <DasEi> TJ-: thanks again, just a typo , facepalm, hehe
[17:24] <TJ-> DasEi: hehehe, I know, I did the same thing about 3 months ago and convinced myself it was missing :D
[17:24] <bazhang> grandpa, ask an actual question
[17:25] <blz> How can I verify a PGP signature that I have in an ASCII file?
[17:25] <grandpa> I need to find out if my USB adapter will work with virtualbox it's a TP-link TL-WN725N
[17:26] <grandpa> you know before i buy it
[17:26] <DasEi> TJ-: maybe ubott.. should know it's included in lm-sensors
[17:27] <MonkeyDu1t> grandpa  any specific reason why it shouldnt?
[17:27] <grandpa> I have just heard that some don't work with virtualbox
[17:27] <ebernhardson> i have two screens,  my notifications tend to go in the upper right of only one screen is there a way to have them display on both screens?
[17:27] <grandpa> so if you someone in here knew if it did :-)
[17:27] <bazhang> grandpa, a wifi usb ?
[17:27] <grandpa> yes
[17:27] <bazhang> grandpa, vbox wont use that
[17:28] <Pici> It might
[17:28] <DasEi> blz : Install  pgpgpg , then man  pgpgpg
[17:28] <subcool> TJ-, i dont see any errors
[17:28] <blz> DasEi, thanks
[17:28] <grandpa> so what could i buy?
[17:28] <Pici> grandpa: anyway, #vbox is the proper place to ask these sorts of questions
[17:28] <subcool> TJ-, im pretty sure its not "broken" - i just dont know how to get it going again..
[17:28] <grandpa> okay thanks
[17:29] <blz> DasEi, sorry but the manpage is greek to me... what am I supposed to be doing?
[17:29] <withgnulinux> can anyone please tell me how can i watch vimeo videos on ubuntu 12.04  *without* installing non-free  software? this desktop newbie would appreciate answers from people who are actually doing do it, rather than from people who go "it should work". thanks
[17:30] <digitalirony> For some reason, in gnome, the little gear button in the top right corner is gone
[17:30] <tmmunq> i believe youtube-dl supprots downloading vimeo, you can then watch it with vlc
[17:30] <digitalirony> and so is the clock
[17:30] <digitalirony> anyone know why?
[17:30] <Cyrax> I dont find the boot thing u told me. here is a photo of my boot options on my bios: http://screencast.com/t/eew7oTgD
[17:30] <grandpa> No one Answer in #vbox?:D
[17:30] <Pici> grandpa: not every channel is as busy as this one, you need to be patient
[17:30] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: try installing chrome and the html5ify plugin
[17:31] <TJ-> blz: gpg --verify /path/to/signature.asc /path/to/signed/file
[17:31] <grandpa> okay, a little new to this thing
[17:31] <blz> TJ-,  I'm getting "Can't check signature, public key not found"
[17:32] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, chrome is non-free
[17:32] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: then you could try Chromium
[17:32] <blz> withgnulinux, gordonjcp I do believe that chromium is free as in freedom
[17:32] <blz> but I could be wrong
[17:33] <TJ-> blz: You'll need to know the key's fingerprint, and then fetch it from the keyserver
[17:33] <blz> TJ-, ah I see... okay
[17:33] <Cyrax> So where on that bios do i choose this boot thing?
[17:34] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, are you actually using chromium to watch vimeo videos without installing any non free software?
[17:35] <nilson> teste
[17:35] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: no
[17:35] <tmmunq> he's either gonna have to use flash or download the video
[17:35] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: basically I suspect there's no easy way to do what you want to do
[17:36] <Cyrax> Wait.. what kind of filytype do i have to have on a DVD to run ubuntu only from a DVD?
[17:36] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: you'd just burn an ISO to the DVD
[17:36] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, thanks for your sincerity. next, please
[17:36] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: don't write it as a file, write it as an image
[17:36] <gordonjcp> !attitude | withgnulinux
[17:36] <Cyrax> wich i did.. but i dont find the boot thing i was told to find
[17:36] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: I told you what would work
[17:36] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: you didn't like it
[17:37] <bazhang> withgnulinux, theres no way to view flash with all free
[17:37] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: there is no other way to play Vimeo videos, on any OS, without doing what I suggested
[17:37] <bazhang> withgnulinux, please be polite here
[17:37] <tmmunq> download them and watch them with something other than flash! no one listens
[17:37] <Cyrax> gordonjcp: did u get the photo of my boot options on my bios?
[17:38] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: what?
[17:38] <Cyrax> gordonjcp: someone told me to go to my bios and choose something about boot from DV
[17:38] <Cyrax> *DVD
[17:38] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: possibly
[17:38] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, you are wrong. on trisquel (based on ubuntu 12.04) you can certainly watch vimeo videos with the viewtube plugin. unfortunately that solution does not work on proper ubuntu 12.04
[17:39] <Argh> ++
[17:39] <Cyrax> gordonjcp: look: http://screencast.com/t/eew7oTgD <--- this is the photo of my boot options on my bios
[17:39] <Cyrax> idk where to look.. sorry
[17:40] <Xago> Hi people there, I'm thinking to purchase a ASUS laptop with Ubuntu preconfigured. Any comment?
[17:40] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: no idea, you're looking for something like "Boot Order"
[17:40] <Cyrax> before i check.. how do I remove this ubuntu from the startup?
[17:41] <digitalirony> hrmm this is really weird
[17:41] <bekks> Cyrax: Insert a live cd, remove the ubuntu partitions.
[17:41] <digitalirony> why is indicator-applet-complete not installed with gnome anymore?
[17:42] <Cyrax> So u mean i have to do that or reinstall my computer to factory default to remove it?
[17:42] <bekks> Cyrax: Correct.
[17:43] <Cyrax> oh well. as long as it doesnt harm the ubuntu there,i can always do it later.. thanks though.. jsut that the ubuntu from the startup won't start at all. says something about put in the DVD again and restart nad something else i dont remember,then repair the disk as 3rd option
[17:44] <HypnotiX> when i try to run firefox i get an error saying: Your firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inactive, and firefox doesnt open
[17:44] <Zimefeld> Hi
[17:44] <HypnotiX> i tried reinstalling it but still the same error
[17:44] <bekks> Cyrax: Removing the partitions - erases everything on it. It does not only harm, it deletes anything on the harddisk.
[17:44] <Zimefeld> someone here?
[17:44] <bekks> Zimefeld: Several hundreds are here.
[17:44] <Cyrax> ok.. thanks
[17:44] <CountryfiedLinux> Is Ubuntu non-LTS more secure than Debian Sid?
[17:45] <Goatman> Zimefeld, do you have a question?
[17:45] <bekks> CountryfiedLinux: We dont know how secure debian sid is.
[17:45] <CountryfiedLinux> bekks: Does Sid receive additonal security updates from Canonical?
[17:45] <holstein> CountryfiedLinux: no
[17:45] <Wulframn> CountryfiedLinux, Canonical had nothing to do with Debian.
[17:46] <bekks> CountryfiedLinux: We dont know wether they incorporate ubuntu patches. At least we dont send them to the devs :P
[17:46] <bekks> CountryfiedLinux: And after that SSH key desaster - I wont talk about debian and secure anymore :P Just my two cents.
[17:47] <holstein> CountryfiedLinux: debian is debian, and should be researched seperately.. the ubuntu LTS's are supported longer, and the regular releases come out more often.. neither are reported officially more or less secure, or intended as such
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> i've got a question, but i'm not sure where to ask it, regarding a legal issue within a package on the software center... who do i go asking about that?
[17:53] <bekks> TheLordOfTime: The people in here?
[17:53] <Wulframn> !ask
[17:53] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: in the repos? or linked in the software center? AFAIK, those are not equivelant and dont have to me
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, no idea, my ubuntu system is down and i can't check, it ended up popped up on Ask Ubuntu and i'm trying to find someone to actually provide an answer, but since i can't open the software center here (stuck on a windows system) i have no way to answer your question.
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, http://askubuntu.com/questions/332603/what-is-the-process-for-reporting-an-app-with-a-stolen-icon if you want to peek at it
[17:55] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: you can download and run in virtualbox, or a live CD
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, neither is able to be done here at this time, no admin to install vbox, no CD/USB boot on this system
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> (it's a loaner system)
[17:55] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: i dont ever agree with "no way to do something" with open tools.. but, you know your system
[17:56] <holstein> i will not be able to do this for 4 hours or so..
[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, it's a loaner system, and on windows to install VBox needs admin because of vbox networking things, I don't have admin on the loaner system, and they disabled USB/CD boot and locked the BIOS
[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, in, oh, three days i'll have my system back (it's being repaired)
[17:57] <Jordan_U> TheLordOfTime: The improperly used icon can be found here as well: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/easyadmin/
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> Jordan_U, thank you.
[17:57] <guzzlefry> Hello, I'm not seeing MySQL Workbench in the Software Center. Is it actually not in the package repository?
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> Jordan_U, the question now becomes a legal one - who owns the image, was the image released into the open domain by apple or no?
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> guzzlefry, i think it was removed, but you can still download a .deb installer from the MySQL dev site.
[17:58] <Riptide> hi
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> guzzlefry, http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/tools/workbench/ is the site, you can download the workbench from there and install the package manually.
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> guzzlefry, but you'll have to update by hand.
[17:59] <Riptide> Can anyone help me with Virtualbox on Ubuntu 13.04?
[17:59] <guzzlefry> I'm actually seeing some alternatives that I've never heard of before. :P
[17:59] <Jordan_U> TheLordOfTime: I very much doubt that Apple released that icon so there are almost certainly both copyright and trademark issues with its use.
[17:59] <guzzlefry> That looks pretty good.
[17:59] <Riptide> Whenever I try to run a VirtualMachine, I get this Error: Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes
[17:59] <TheLordOfTime> Jordan_U, then who gets contacted for a violation of legal copyrights within a package?
[17:59] <TheLordOfTime> I'd love to answer their question and tell them a procedure to resolve the legal issue, or remove the offending package/link
[18:00] <Riptide> Can anyone help me?
[18:01] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, i've just managed to make viewtube play vimeo videos on ubuntu 12.04 but there are still some issues that need to be addressed. watch this space...
[18:01] <deoland> hello i've a problem,I do not get connected to phpmyadmin
[18:02] <withgnulinux> so guys it IS certainly possible to play vimo videos without non-free software on ubuntu 12.04
[18:03] <Jordan_U> TheLordOfTime: I don't know.
[18:05] <Riptide> Hello! Does anyone know how to tfix an Error whenever I try to run a VirtualMachine on OracleVMVirtualMachine?
[18:06] <minidino> How can I backup GRUB so it can be restored after a windows installation to another partition?
[18:07] <Tomy2938> I had to configured the filesystems the hard way, hardcoding the UID and GID in order to work properly, at least is working for CIFS. ;-)
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> minidino, Not really needed you just need to reload the grub bootloader.
[18:09] <minidino> wilee-nilee: i am assuming this could be done from an ubuntu liveCD?
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> minidino, Yes many use the bootrepair app, this is a mbr setup?
[18:10] <Cyrax> I tried to start the ubuntu from startup... but i got this.. file: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr , Status:0xC000007b ,, what does it mean?
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> rather than a gpt uefi...etc minidino
[18:11] <apb1963> so this morning I replugged in my router.  It got a fresh IP and my MAC is no longer cloned... I can ping & tracert from windoze XP.  I can ping, but NOT traceroute from ubuntu - it stops at my router.  Googlesync on XP will not connect.  Any  ideas?
[18:12] <minidino> yes it probably will be. I actually havent set it up yet just planning on how the new installation will go
[18:12] <TJ-> apb1963: Did you try tracepath/tracert "-n" on Linux - that will avoid any DNS lookups, which might be the issue on the Linux side (wrong resolver settings)
[18:13] <apb1963> I did not.  But I will try now.
[18:14] <swcdx> Hi any decent bandwith meter/download monitor with graphics?? I have been looking for one and no luck. Any apps suggestions? TIA
[18:15] <Cyrax> So what does that mean that I mentioned.. seems ubuntu won't start when i choose ubuntu.. any way to fix it?
[18:15] <apb1963> No such option.  I should point out however that it does in fact resolve the domain.  I should also point out that I've also tried with an IP address and get the same stopage at the router.  I should also point out, I can ping.  So DNS is not the issue.
[18:16] <samples> yo
[18:17] <genii> Cyrax: With wubi can be any number of problems. Especially if it starts involving UEFI, Win 8, or raid
[18:17] <Cyrax> Any way i cna fix it?
[18:17] <Cyrax> *can
[18:17] <Cyrax> so i can really start run ubuntu from dvd only
[18:17] <apb1963> tracepath I've never used before... trying that is interesting... the hop after the router says "no reply".  That says to me the router is blocking return packets.... yes?
[18:17] <Jordan_U> apb1963: Please elaborate on the point about your MAC address no longer being cloned. Are you really connecting to a router or just a modem?
[18:18] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: configure your PC to boot from removable media and burn the image to a disk
[18:18] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: these days, you'd be better using a USB stick
[18:18] <apb1963> TP Link router
[18:18] <apb1963> which connects to my ISP's modem