[21:45] <coz_> Diverdude,  after installation... just right click on the gnome panel    "Add to panel"   Alarm clock
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> switch10_: Im not gonna argue with you. Unless a drives controller is seriously messed up and failed then yeah. But powering down an operating system has nothing to do with powering down a peice of hardware.
[21:45] <z3r0-c001> im runnin 8.04 is lucid any good anyone
[21:45] <Kills> 1st problem it doesn let me save the file and second which I use the server or the adress ?
[21:45] <Diverdude> coz_, hmm could it be that my /etc/atp/sources.list is completely empty?
[21:45] <bondiblueos9> switch10_ / LinuxGuy2009 : so I think you've established that drives normally move their heads out of dodge when power is cut, but there is a chance this won't happen, in which case your drive is ruined; I was more concerned about potential system configuration cleanup etc that happens at shutdown, and also write-cacheing which I had forgotten about but you reminded me of
[21:46] <jrib> z3r0-c001: try a live cd and see for yourself
[21:46] <LinuxGuy2009> noobs leading noobs. Unfortunatly happens here on occasion.
[21:46] <z3r0-c001> cant make one dont got windows
[21:46] <sebsebseb> z3r0-c001: got a CD burner?
[21:46] <coz_> Diverdude,  /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:46] <jrib> z3r0-c001: you don't need windows, you can burn CDs on ubuntu too
[21:46] <z3r0-c001> i just want anothers opinon really
[21:47] <coz_> Diverdude,  no it is not empty you just spelled it incorrectly :)
[21:47] <sKAApGIF> Kills: type in a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[21:47] <jrib> z3r0-c001: try #ubuntu-offtopic for that I guess...
[21:47] <Barkhorn> bondiblueos9, usually there is no negative effects that don't clear up on the next reboot. just potential data loss if there is unsynced changes
[21:47] <bondiblueos9> so does anyone have any ideas about my gnu screen problem?
[21:47] <jrib> !helpme | bondiblueos9
[21:47] <z3r0-c001> this isnt off topic it about the upcoming release uf ubuntu
[21:47] <Capt_Blackwood> z3ro-c001, what's you current operating system?
[21:47] <j0k3r> what your proplem with your screan ?
[21:47] <Kills> and which do I use from the nslookup command?
[21:47] <Diverdude> coz_, yes ok...i have added those...how do i then install?
[21:47] <z3r0-c001> 8.04
[21:48] <bondiblueos9> I was doing the "ask again later"
[21:48] <z3r0-c001> the bird
[21:48] <jrib> z3r0-c001: this channel is for *support* of ubuntu version that have been released
[21:48] <coz_> Diverdude,  well first  in terminal  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: thanks for stating the obviouse
[21:48] <Barkhorn> Kills, one of the addresses in the answer section
[21:48] <Capt_Blackwood> z3ero-c001, hit the website and check it out...or go to #ubuntu+1 and have a look
[21:48] <coz_> Diverdude,  then sudo apt-get install alarm-clock-applet
[21:49] <Kills> Server:		<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:49] <Kills>  this or this Address:	<IP_ADDRESS>#53
[21:49] <Diverdude> coz_, yes it seems to be installing correctly
[21:49] <coz_> Diverdude,  there you go
[21:49] <jrib> Kills: you need to put the person's nick that you are talking to in your message or it is very confusing
[21:49] <LzrdKing> Kills: neither, the hosts address
[21:50] <Kills> a few people are helping me now lol
[21:50] <Barkhorn> server is the DNS server you asked to resolve the URL to an IP, there should be a line "Non-authoritative answer:" and at least one address following
[21:50] <bondiblueos9> often, when I run screen, it only responds to every other keypress; this doesn't happen at the normal prompt before I run screen, and it doesn't happen with screen when I ssh in
[21:50] <jrib> Kills: it's possible to type more than one nick...
[21:50] <Kills> i cant keep track of all opf them Im afraid
[21:50] <j0k3r> don't be
[21:51] <jrib> Kills: well pick the one whose questions you are answering
[21:52] <Diverdude> coz_, aha thats really nice :)
[21:52] <hal1> I have copied the ubuntu live cd to a HDD partition and I am getting the error "could not find kernel image: linux" and then the boot: prompt.  Does anyone know what I need to do to make it boot?
[21:52] <Diverdude> coz_, thx a lot mate :D
[21:53] <xplinux> hi where is the support for ubntu 9.10 distro chinese ylmf.o.s  ubuntu xp ? http://picasaweb.google.es/112370194056728732538/DISTROYMLFOSXPUBUNTU910?authkey=Gv1sRgCOTTtqCWk_C5nAE#5463065604617397186
[21:53] <Diverdude> coz_, do you know where i turn of all kind of sleep mode etc. so that the computer won't fall asleep :)
[21:54] <j0k3r> hall : type at the boot line the following "/isolinux/vmlinuz initrd=/isolinux/initrd.img"
[21:54] <j0k3r> this hit enter
[21:54] <Kills> well it doesnt load facebook but the host doesnt redirect where i want it to
[21:55] <hal1> j0k3r: thanks - I iwll try taht
[21:55] <h00k> xplinux: we've told you, this isn't the place for it
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> xplinux, i thought we already went over this.  It's not supported in this channel!  You can ask in ##linux "/join ##linux" to get there.
[21:55] <axisys> what is a good sip client ?
[21:55] <axisys> !sip
[21:56] <xplinux> thanks i try it again
[21:56] <j0k3r> hope it w0rks tell us again hall
[21:57] <j0k3r> be right back --
[21:58] <sp0spo> hi
[21:58] <j0k3r> hi ur self
[21:58] <Jordan_U> hal1: Did you use unetbootin?
[21:59] <hal1> yes I did Jordan_U
[21:59] <dyek> When I ssh into a Netbook running Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR), this command doesn't work: "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-screensaver-command -d". That appears to work on the regular Ubuntu 9.10 (same release version number as UNR). Any idea what are the differences between the desktop and UNR versions? The error on UNR is: ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified
[22:00] <KaiForce> wat
[22:01] <haavaros> My gf is on a crappy laptop, and Ubuntu is kinda slow sometimes. Would the most effective countermeasure be to install a lighter desktop environment? Any suggestions?
[22:02] <sebsebseb> habtool: maybe up the SWAP space a bit,  and there's XFCE/Xubuntu and LXDE/Lubuntu
[22:03] <sebsebseb> habtool: plus their are distros such as Puppy Linux and Damn Small Linux, which have been specifically made for old hardware
[22:03] <j0k3r> haavaros ; disable ipv6
[22:04] <haavaros> j0k3r: Wow, ok.. i'll try that, thx
[22:04] <sebsebseb> ah ha I used the wrong name  so  haavaros  not habtool
[22:04] <j0k3r> no he's not
[22:07] <Razion> Anyone happen to know the simplest smb.conf possible for unsecured file-sharing to windows clients?
[22:08] <Razion> All of mine seem to fail catastrophically.
[22:09] <synapse> is there any way to use the argc/arg list to define a variable in bash, right now I'm doing this: fileName=$1
[22:09] <headfoo> l
[22:09] <h00k> synapse: check #bash
[22:09] <synapse> can I eliminate the fileName variable?
[22:10] <windgat> hi all
[22:10] <j0k3r> hi u
[22:11] <noqturnal1> hello hello
[22:11] <windgat> I've been out of the gaming scene for quite a while now; can anyone tell me a bit more about steam?
[22:11] <CaptainTrek> windgat: go to steam.com and read up
[22:11] <noqturnal1> anyone have a moment to help me with a partition issue? It involves permissions and writing
[22:11] <bondiblueos9> windgat, what about steam?
[22:11] <Razion> Steam doesn't run on Linux...?
[22:11] <bondiblueos9> steam was running on mhy linux
[22:12] <j0k3r> Welcome to Steam ,,
[22:12] <bondiblueos9> with wine, of course
[22:12] <Razion> Really? I had thought it could only be used for dedicated servers.
[22:12] <j0k3r> how did u do it ?
[22:12] <digitalstimulus> check #winehq
[22:12] <Razion> Ah. Is wine actually useful enough to run Steam games nowadays? xD
[22:12] <windgat> I gather that it's a gaming content delivery platform, but doe sthat mean that I will be able to play all those other games that have been unavailable to us until now, on my linux system?
[22:12] <bondiblueos9> I followed the instructions on some site, haha; I don't remember exactly, but it wasn't too difficult
[22:12] <noqturnal1> could really use some help
[22:12] <digitalstimulus> windgat, I play Steam games daily.  check winehq.org and the channel #winehq
[22:12] <Razion> Theoretically, if you can get one Source Engine game to run on Wine, you can get all of them to run, Windgat.
[22:13] <windgat> thanks
[22:13] <Razion> HL2, CS:S, Orange Box, Gmod...All the same game, basically.
[22:13] <windgat> so it simply runs games *emulated* via wine; now "natively" in a kind of VM?
[22:13] <windgat> s/now/not/
[22:13] <taofd> I would like to force my clock to sync with servers, is there a way to do this?
[22:14] <Losha> noqturnal1: no promises, but do you want to say more about your problem?
[22:14] <bondiblueos9> windgat: I'm not sure if that's accurate
[22:14] <noqturnal1> doorbell
[22:14] <bondiblueos9> windgat: I think wine just provides the missing windows stuff, just enough of it
[22:14] <windgat> 'cause I see steam has been poerted to mac (beta), so something closer to bare-metal would be possible on *nix
[22:15] <Losha> taofd: ntp does exactly that. You can also do a one-time update using ntpdate e.g. sudo /usr/sbin/ntpdate utcnist.colorado.edu
[22:15] <titilcuite> leave
[22:15] <Razion> Anyone decent with Samba lurking around?
[22:15] <taofd> Losha, thx let me try it out
[22:15] <titilcuite> help
[22:15] <windgat> so using the mac port, there would be no need for wine
[22:15] <Lokillo> hjjh
[22:15] <windgat> Razion: webmin
[22:15] <mark--asdfadfjkh> anyone know asp?
[22:15] <titilcuite> list server
[22:15] <titilcuite> list
[22:15] <titilcuite> quit
[22:15] <Losha> titilcuite: need some help?
[22:16] <titilcuite> I am trying to find a list of commands.
[22:16] <Razion> Windgat: I only need it to run unsecured file-sharing to windows clients....
[22:16] <Razion> Looking for a simpler solution.
[22:16] <titilcuite> It was about 10 years ago the last time i did get into irc
[22:16] <j0k3r> command of what ?
[22:16] <Losha> titilcuite: depends on your client, but most commands start with a slash e.g. /help
[22:16] <windgat> Razion: i use webmin to simplify all my samba needs
[22:16] <j0k3r> humm this is my first time
[22:16] <Razion> Windgat: I'll give it a try.
[22:17] <titilcuite> i don't want to bother you guys too much
[22:17] <taofd> Losha, lolwut, ntpdate is not installed on my machine o_O
[22:17] <noqturnal1> Losha, All: I am trying to partition a harddrive to where i can mount it in linux. I can do that much but i cannot manage to get it to become writable. This is a linux only pc right now and ill VM win 7 later. I have Xubuntu 9.10
[22:17] <mark--asdfadfjkh> cool
[22:17] <titilcuite> bye
[22:17] <Razion> Windgat: Do you happen to know the apt-get package name for webmin?
[22:17] <mark--asdfadfjkh> anyone here know how to use asp?
[22:17] <windgat> ok, guys. I think I understand a bit better now. thanks
[22:18] <taofd> Losha, i'm getting this error: ntpdate[4401]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[22:18] <windgat> Razion: you should find the instructions on the site. it's extremely easy (2 or 3 commands)
[22:18] <llutz> noqturnal1: use chown/chmod to set permissions
[22:18] <Losha> taofd: run ps ax|egrep ntp to see if it's already running...
[22:18] <noqturnal1> i tried
[22:18] <noqturnal1> but i need to know a bit more about it because i dont think i did it right
[22:18] <fumbles> anybody have luck putting pcbsd into the grub2 40_custom file?
[22:19] <Losha> noqturnal1: where is the drive mounted to ?
[22:19] <snkmad> need some help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1460365
[22:19] <noqturnal1> losha: /dev/sda6
[22:19] <noqturnal1> mounted to /media/storage
[22:19] <Razion> Anyone know the KDE4 package name off-hand?
[22:19] <windgat> bb
[22:19] <fumbles> Razion: you try the tab complete in apt?
[22:19] <Losha> noqturnal1: and what does ls -ld /media/storage say? (those are lower case Ls)
[22:20] <arvigeus> How can I turn off bluetooth from terminal?
[22:20] <Razion> There's a tab-complete? O_o;
[22:20] <taofd> Losha, yeah i stopped the service, ntpdated, then restarted it thx! :)
[22:20] <j0k3r> taofs
[22:20] <j0k3r> taofd
[22:20] <Losha> taofd: excellent
[22:20] <snoopy_> How do I change my password on ubuntu? I forgot it.
[22:20] <Bisu[Shield]> where do i find the php error logs
[22:20] <llutz> snoopy_: passwd
[22:20] <noqturnal1> Losha:/dev/hdxy   /mnt/hdxy  file_system  noatime,user,exec,dev,suid,gid=users,umask=000  0  0
[22:20] <noqturnal1> woops
[22:20] <nada> hi
[22:20] <taofd> Losha, btw, do you know of a way to set the "default" time for gnome panel's calendar/date/time app? :D
[22:20] <Razion> fumbles: How do I go about using the tab-complete?
[22:20] <snoopy_> but it ask for my current password
[22:20] <noqturnal1> losha: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2010-04-22 15:36 /media/storage
[22:20] <snoopy_> and I forgot it
[22:21] <Bisu[Shield]> yo
[22:21] <Losha> taofd: sorry, I don't run gnome, maybe someone else knows..
[22:21] <Spoils> ok
[22:21] <taofd> Losha, well thanks for all your help already
[22:21] <fumbles> Razion: in a terminal there's tab complete; where you type in "apt-get install kde" then hit tab once or twice to see the list of available options
[22:21] <moreia> I've got a dual display setup that is really buggy about screenshots.  Big black bar.
[22:21] <Spoils> quick question... i am a noob and i have installed the netbook remix on my gf's acer aspire
[22:21] <Razion> fumbles: Oh. Clever.
[22:21] <coz_> taofd,  if you right click the system clock you can go to preferences
[22:22] <Spoils> i had to manually download the f'n restricted extras package for some reason or another cause when i did it on the terminal it said there was an error
[22:22] <taofd> coz_, i have multiple locations set for time, i want to switch one, since i am currently outside my home country
[22:22] <coz_> taofd,  mm let me check hold on
[22:22] <Spoils> but not have i have downloaded and manually installed the restricted extras package... none of the programs (rhythmbox, etc) seem to know that i have done so and can't play any of the file formats
[22:22] <Losha> noqturnal1: ok, 'drwxr-xr-x 3 root root' means its Writeable only by user root. To make it writable by everyone else, you need to do sudo chmod o+x /media/storage. If you do ls -l again, you should then see drwxr-xrwx
[22:23] <aoodl> hey all - after moving ubuntu from a wubi install to a new partition I get no display (apart from some red dots and a distorted loading bar) - if I ctrl-alt-f1 I can get console - any ideas?
[22:23] <arvigeus> How can I turn off bluetooth from terminal? *
[22:23] <taofd> coz_, there's no prioritize button, or "set as default" button :(
[22:23] <aoodl> shouldn't the video drivers still be working from the wubi install?
[22:23] <xangua> Spoils: manually installed restricter extras¿¿ what error gives you the terminal¿¿
[22:23] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[22:23] <llutz> noqturnal1: "sudo chgrp users /media/storage && sudo chmod 775 /media/storage"  to make it writable by group "users"
[22:23] <coz_> taofd,  oh you want set to defaults  ok mmm  hold on
[22:23] <Ahmed\> Hello
[22:23] <Ahmed\> Is Lucid released ?
[22:23] <llutz> Losha: chmod o+w   not o+x
[22:24] <taofd> coz_, yes please :)
[22:24] <vinni_> lucid? no
[22:24] <arvigeus> Ahmed\: Nope
[22:24] <Ahmed\> Well sure ?
[22:24] <Ahmed\> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[22:24] <vinni_> only beta2
[22:24] <jrib> !away > libertiy
[22:24] <coz_> taofd,  so you want to change the time to where you are located at the moment?
[22:24] <noqturnal1> is llutz right?
[22:24] <Ahmed\> Have a look and tell me what version is this
[22:24] <Losha> llutz: noqturnal1: my bad, thanks for noticing. Yes, it should be  chmod o+w /media/storage
[22:24] <Ahmed\> I am confused
[22:25] <libertiy> ubottu: sorry was away
[22:25] <Losha> Ahmed\: you can discuss it to your heart's content on #ubuntu+1
[22:25] <libertiy> ubottu: what private msg?
[22:25] <taofd> coz_, no i have two locations listed, each have their own time. however, only one of them shows on my panel, i want to switch: instead of location A's time showing, I want to see location B's time
[22:25] <Spoils> xangua: it told me that it couldn't find the package...
[22:25] <Ahmed\> Thanks
[22:25] <arvigeus> How can I turn off bluetooth from terminal? ** It's important... plz
[22:26] <LjL> arvigeus: probably sudo invoke-rc.d bluetooth stop
[22:26] <MykeNY516> Anyone good with empathy that could answer a question: How do you change the timestamp on the very right of the message box to a 12hour format?
[22:26] <Losha> libertiy: did you not get a message from ubottu about being 'away'?
[22:26] <xangua> Spoils: did you enabled the extra repositorioes¿¿
[22:26] <j0k3r> update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove ; i think ;l
[22:26] <noqturnal1> Losha, llutz: Thank you guys so much, it now works. will this be a permanent solution?
[22:26] <llutz> noqturnal1: yes
[22:26] <coz_> taofd,   mm I am       stumped on this one
[22:27] <taofd> coz_, i think the functionality doesn't exist 6__6, but i wouldn't be surprised if the value is stored somewhere in gconf...
[22:27] <vinni_> anyone known actual repository problens,europe ?
[22:27] <Spoils> xangua:  no, mano... es que soy 'noob' y no se ni donde chingados hacer eso... me ayudas?
[22:27] <coz_> taofd,   mm you may be correct ...let me look in gconf hold on
[22:27] <arvigeus> LjL: Nope, no reaction (neigter an eror)
[22:27] <xangua> !es | Spoils
[22:27] <rinzai> hi everyone
[22:28] <coffee_> In Ubuntu 9.10 I dont see any user accounts except root. How do I modify user accounts?
[22:28] <j0k3r> how can i change the language in backtrack 4 ;l
[22:28] <LjL> arvigeus: well no reaction should mean it worked, shouldn't it?
[22:28] <moreia> Any insights on where to post bugs about screen capture/print screen?
[22:28] <Spoils> xangua:  grs
[22:28] <Losha> noqturnal1: you can read up on file permissions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[22:28] <llutz> !nacktrack > j0k3r
[22:28] <LjL> j0k3r: i suppose they probably know in the backtrack channel.
[22:28] <moreia> coffee_: Where are you looking for user accounts?
[22:28] <llutz> !backtrack > j0k3r
[22:28] <nada> can i ask Question in the terminal ???
[22:28] <arvigeus> LjL: No, means it done nothing
[22:28] <j0k3r> i'm new ;(
[22:28] <Spoils> xangua:  I can do it in English too.  I just noticed that you were a native Spanish speaker... where do I do that?
[22:28] <LjL> arvigeus, how do you know that?
[22:28] <Ahmed\> Well i get this error when the update finishes.... why ?
[22:28] <xangua> j0k3r: ask in #backtrack-linux, this is #ubuntu
[22:28] <Ahmed\> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com karmic Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:28] <coz_> taofd,   if you go to   gconf   /apps/panel/applets/clock_screen0
[22:28] <j0k3r> ok sorry
[22:29] <coffee_> moreia: Looking in system/ admin / users and groups
[22:29] <coz_> taofd,  maybe there are settings there
[22:29] <taofd> coz_, yeah i'm looking, played around with that entry, changed from "false" to "true" and vice versa, but it didnt work xD
[22:29] <arvigeus> LjL: Watching bluetooth-applet status
[22:29] <rinzai> I want to install emacs in text mode, but everytime I install it, it replace the graphical version :-S
[22:29] <j0k3r> brb
[22:29] <MykeNY516> anyone good with Empathy IM client?
[22:29] <rinzai> how do I install them side by side?
[22:29] <xangua> Spoils: system> administration> software origins
[22:29] <moreia> Coffee_:And if you "click to make changes"?
[22:29] <nada> what does the command (cut -d) do??
[22:29] <moreia> coffee_: on the keys, that is.
[22:29] <llutz> nada: man cut
[22:29] <Losha> rinzai: emacs will run in text mode if you invoke it as emacs -nw. Is that what you mean?
[22:29] <egc> cuts the d off
[22:30] <arvigeus> I'm trying to make external program for control
[22:30] <coffee_> moria: Clicked on make changes and just root shows up
[22:30] <kwtm> Hi!  How do I resume transferring a partially transferred file in KDE (or, failing that, command line)?  I was FISH'ing a 1.4GB file and got interrupted halfway.
[22:30] <Ahmed\> D Drive ? you meant
[22:30] <xangua> Spoils: in the fist tab enable all repositorioes (except for source code) ; then reload and install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:30] <llutz> egc: fail
[22:30] <coffee_> weird
[22:30] <moreia> Coffee_: the "Add User" button is greyed out?
[22:30] <xangua> Spoils: you can do it from terminal, synaptic or the software center
[22:30] <Losha> egc: less comedy, more support, please...
[22:30] <rinzai> Losha, :-S thanks! (haven't tried that)
[22:30] <egc> llutz: epicly
[22:30] <taofd> coz_, do you think it'll work if i restart x? usually gnome settings are instantaneous...
[22:30] <egc> Losha: roger
[22:30] <coffee_> moreia: Nope, I can do all functions except user accounts dont show up
[22:30] <mIrKaT> my ubuntu is acting up again
[22:31] <coz_> taofd,  that was going to be my next suggestion  at least for testing those settings
[22:31] <rinzai> Losha, works perfectly! thanks again :)
[22:31] <kwtm> nada: Did your question get answered ? (Other than being told to go find out yourself)
[22:31] <fumbles> my ubuntu is acting up...sounds like an ebkc
[22:31] <taofd> coz_, mm yeah, ill finish what i'm doing and restart x... i'll let you know how that goes xD
[22:31] <h00k> !sound | fumbles
[22:31] <Losha> nada: cut -d expects a delimiter i.e. a character it can use to tell where the columns start and end. See  man cut
[22:31] <moreia> coffee_: So no buttons are greyed out but you aren't seeing any users other than root listed?
[22:31] <coz_> taofd, cool
[22:31] <Losha> rinzai: excellent!
[22:31] <Spoils> xangua:  the first 4 options were already checked, mate
[22:31] <coffee_> moreia: Thats correct.
[22:31] <moreia> coffee_: who are you logged in as?
[22:31] <fumbles> h00k: lulz no I'm good
[22:32] <fumbles> h00k: error between keyboard and chair
[22:32] <xangua> Spoils: and it doesn't appear in synaptic¿¿
[22:32] <h00k> fumbles: ah, okay. pebkac
[22:32] <moreia> coffee_: if you click on  "Add User" and create a new users, does that user appear?
[22:32] <coffee_> moreia: Im logged in as my user account. Then I click on keys and provide root password and no users show up.
[22:32] <fumbles> heh
[22:32] <coffee_> moreia: Ill try that.
[22:33] <coffee_> moria: Newly created user shows up.
[22:33] <fumbles> anybody had success with grub2 and pcbsd after installing ubuntu 10.04?
[22:33] <Spoils> xangua: checking
[22:33] <joaopinto> !lucid | fumbles
[22:33] <h00k> fumbles: check for Lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[22:33] <coffee_> moreia: Newly created user does show up
[22:33] <fumbles> h00k: thanks
[22:34] <coz_> fumbles,  if no one can answer here you can try  #grub
[22:34] <fumbles> h00k: I don't think it would matter really though
[22:34] <fumbles> grub2 is grub2
[22:34] <moreia> coffee_: Huh. So you can create new users, but can't see old ones at all? I'm not sure what might be going on.
[22:34] <kwtm> file transfers!  Wonder how.  (Trying to drum up support for my question. :) )
[22:34] <h00k> fumbles: then /msg ubottu grub2
[22:34] <moreia> coffee_: what if you open terminal and give the "users" command?
[22:34] <Losha> kwtm: what *is* your question?
[22:34] <coffee_> moreia: Found problem. Somehow my user name does not belong to group and id number is wrong.
[22:34] <fumbles> pft ubottu provides no help
[22:35] <bondiblueos9> how can I set default permissions for a directory?
[22:35] <fumbles> already been there
[22:35] <coffee_> moreia: Thanks for helping me think this one thru!
[22:35] <kwtm> Losha: Thanks for responding.  Four minutes ago: Hi!  How do I resume transferring a partially transferred file in KDE (or, failing that, command line)?  I was FISH'ing a 1.4GB file and got interrupted halfway.
[22:35] <norbi905> Hello, I plugged in my external HDD through firewire, but I can't seem to find it as Ubuntu did not automount.  How can I go about searching for this drive?
[22:35] <h00k> fumbles: if you're using Lucid, the proper channel is still #ubuntu+1
[22:35] <moreia> coffee_: np.
[22:35] <Bisu[Shield]> anyone, where do I find the php error logs?
[22:36] <coffee_> brb
[22:36] <llutz> kwtm: try rsync
[22:36] <moreia> Sooo: anyone? My dual display screenshots are borked.
[22:36] <kwtm> llutz: Good idea.  WIll try. THanks.
[22:36] <templa[mobile]> This sounds really dumb. I have a application that needs to be installed with setup in colsole. there is a checklist, and I cant check items. I can move up and down, but cant select. enter just continutes the install
[22:36] <Razion> I launched a 3d app without installing video drivers...my resolution is all out of whack, and scrolls with my mouse. Any suggestions?
[22:36] <Losha> kwtm: llutz: uh, what's FISHing ?
[22:37] <llutz> Losha: filetransfer over ssh
[22:37] <barbarella> <Bisu[Shield]:/var/log/apache2
[22:37] <Some_Person> I'm downloading something with wget and it seems to have stalled
[22:37] <templa[mobile]> Razion restart X
[22:37] <Spoils> xangua:  Yes... it is now in synaptic
[22:37] <Losha> llutz: thanks. Seems obvious once it's pointed out. New terminology?
[22:38] <llutz> Losha: not really, better to use sftp now
[22:38] <moreia> Easier: how can i tell which version of gnome-utils I've got?
[22:38] <bondiblueos9> what does if ls -l shows a bunch of ???? instead of permissions, usernames, size, date/time, etc
[22:38] <barbarella> Some_Person:resume with the -c option, else check the url
[22:38] <llutz> Losha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files_transferred_over_shell_protocol
[22:38] <Some_Person> barbarella: How can I do that while wget is still running?
[22:39] <Losha> llutz: actually, I favor rsync myself too nowadays. Ah, thanks for the link...
[22:39] <jaydee> hey
[22:39] <Spoils> xangua:  I don't know how to add mp3 to the 'formato preferido' in rhythmbox...
[22:39] <Razion> What's the syntax for restarting X?
[22:39] <barbarella> Some_Person:crtl + c and rerun wget with the -c option
[22:39] <jaydee> can someone help installing ar928x driver on netbook
[22:39] <jaydee> ?
[22:40] <Some_Person> barbarella: Trouble: Microsoft doesn't generate the same download link every time
[22:40] <moreia> bondiblueos9: can mean a lot of things.
[22:40] <kwtm> Losha: File transfer over SSh.  Very ingenious: as long as you can log into a computer (via SSh), you can manipulate files remotely: upload, download, rename, etc.
[22:40] <Some_Person> barbarella: I used a firefox extension to pipe the download to wget
[22:40] <xangua> Spoils: ¿¿ :S have you already installed restricted extras¿
[22:40] <moreia> bondiblueos9: It happened to me when I'd done some bad things to permissions and turned off the execute flag on a directory
[22:41] <moreia> bondiblueos9: you can chmod your way out of it.
[22:41] <moreia> bondiblueos9: or sudo chmod.
[22:41] <Losha> kwtm: weird how you can go years and never hear of something. I'd never heard of it, and it been around for years...
[22:41] <barbarella> Some_Person:the data is still the same, so check the url
[22:41] <moreia> bondiblueos9: look at the permissions of the containing folder.
[22:41] <Some_Person> barbarella: The URL and file name would not be the same though
[22:41] <bondiblueos9> moreia: I guess I'll do that when I need to; I can still sudo to use the files
[22:41] <jaydee> is there someone who can help with installing ar928x driver on netoobk?
[22:42] <dotnetted> I want to mount /dev/sda5 to /data and then set /data/home to be the default /home directory - what's the best way of doing that?
[22:42] <moreia> bondiblueos9: is this happening in a lot of directories?
[22:42] <bondiblueos9> moreia: at least its just on an external data drive and not on my system or anything I actually need permissions on
[22:42] <barbarella> Some_Person:file not the same?
[22:42] <Some_Person> barbarella: Same file, different name
[22:42] <Ahmed\> Evolution mail doesn't refresh every 10 minutes HUH @_@ what do i do
[22:42] <bondiblueos9> moreia: no, actually, its just happening when I create a file on my zfs drive on my mac, then export the pool and import it on ubuntu
[22:42] <barbarella> Some_Person:what are you downloading if i may ask?
[22:43] <Some_Person> barbarella: Windows 7
[22:43] <moreia> bondiblueos9: I can't remember how I did that to myself, but I think no one owned the directory, or I'd removed the x permission from it or something.  Definitely related.
[22:43] <llutz> dotnetted: add it to /etc/fstab"/dev/sda5 /data ext4 defaults 0 0" and after tthat line"/home /data/home none bind 0 0"
[22:43] <Losha> dotnetted: the easiest way is to do the mount and then create a soft link from /home to /data/home e.g. ln -s /data/home /home.
[22:43] <Some_Person> barbarella: And no, it's not piracy. I'm getting it from Microsoft TechNet
[22:43] <barbarella> Some_Person:get the data from torrent
[22:43] <llutz> dotnetted: after tthat line"/data/home /home none bind 0 0"
[22:43] <llutz> dotnetted: sorry, typo
[22:44] <Some_Person> barbarella: That wouldn't be legal, and I don't trust torrents enough for something like this.
[22:44] <moreia> barbarella: I'm with Some_Person on this.
[22:45] <victor___> chicos como puedo configurar la cuenta de evolution para hotmail?
[22:45] <Losha> !es | victor___
[22:45] <Some_Person> !es | victor___
[22:45] <jrib> !away > jcrigby
[22:45] <dotnetted> llutz: thanks
[22:46] <dmichel1> hi all
[22:46] <jaydee> is there someone who can help with installing ar928x driver on netoobk?
[22:46] <barbarella> Some_Person:it depends if you have a legal serial but not the data
[22:46] <Some_Person> barbarella: I'm not getting it from a torrent
[22:46] <barbarella> Some_Person:it doesn't matter where you've got it from
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:47] <deken> what do you people think of the name "pyntt"?
[22:47] <dmichel1> im editing grub and i'm trying to get a list of my disk drives in the format of '	rootnoverify (hd0,0)', because my 'other' is windows, and i'd like to switch which hard drive windows boots from, but i dont know which one it is
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> can someone please tell me what: Installing 6 assemblies from libart2.0-cil into Mono
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> mean
[22:47] <bondiblueos9> deken: for a child?
[22:47] <dmichel1> how do i list my disk drives in that format, and not the partitions
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> it happens when i update, its not an issue, more a curiosity
[22:48] <deken> bondiblueos9: no in general
[22:48] <deken> software actually
[22:48] <jrib> dmichel1: what grub version?
[22:48] <dmichel1> jrib, not sure
[22:48] <jrib> dmichel1: what ubuntu version?
[22:48] <Losha> deken: I think #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place to discuss software naming...
[22:49] <bondiblueos9> dmichel1: I'm not sure how you list them like that, but I think it follows the pattern that hda1 is (hd0,0), hda2 is (hd0,1), hdb1 is (hd1,0), hdb4 is (hd1,3) etc
[22:49] <deken> Losha: thanks
[22:49] <dmichel1> ahh ok,
[22:49] <dmichel1> thanks
[22:49] <dsnettleton> Does anyone here know how I can determine whether my bluetooth adapter is bluetooth 1.2 compliant?
[22:49] <Traveler8> guys any idea..with broadcom wireless...on lubuntu...I installed b43 cutter and downloaded the drivers...but still no wifi
[22:50] <jrib> dmichel1: the procedure is different depending on which grub you are using.
[22:50] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about dvd::rip's clip & zoom options?
[22:51] <dmichel1> thanks so much guys
[22:51] <dmichel1> later
[22:51] <jrib> ...
[22:51] <barbarella> dsnettleton:lsusb
[22:52] <dsnettleton> Thanks
[22:52] <bastid_raZor> jrib: wow, i've never seen you do so much with so little.
[22:52] <Some_Person> barbarella: Getting from a torrent is a gamble though. Maybe you'll get an unmodified official DVD image, but maybe you won't.
[22:52] <nada> thanks lluts,kwtm and losha
[22:53] <kwtm> Hey, I didn't really help any, but you're welcome.
[22:53] <Losha> They also help, who only stand and don't clutter up the channel (with apologies to Milton)
[22:53] <hal1> what parameters do you pass at boot to boot from a fat partition?  ie the parameters at the end of /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz  ?
[22:54] <barbarella> Some_Person:that's up to you if you trust it or not...but this is the ubuntu channel
[22:54] <domjohnson>  What is the command to open the Display dialog that lets me change my screen resolution?
[22:54] <Some_Person> domjohnson: gnome-display-properties
[22:55] <Vigo> How do I update the rkhunter database or check to see if it is up to date?
[22:55] <barbarella> Some_Person:this one is ok http://dl.btjunkie.org/torrent/Microsoft-Windows-7-Ultimate-Retail-Final-x86-32-bit-and-x64-64-bit/718569f5e4bc6570ddd81477880d0e1a53da8653012d/download.torrent
[22:55] <IdleOne> !warez
[22:55] <Some_Person> barbarella: For the last time, I'm not getting it from a torrent. And don't post piracy links in here
[22:56] <Losha> barbarella: you know, I think posting windows warez torrents might be offtopic in a ubuntu support channel...
[22:56] <IdleOne> it is offtopic on Freenode altogether
[22:56] <domjohnson> Cheers, some_person
[22:56] <barbarella> Some_Person:then go somewhere else with your microsoft
[22:57] <PeterFA> How do I create a list of packages that I can use to reinstall all the packages?
[22:58] <IdleOne> !cloning > PeterFA
[22:58] <xangua> PeterFA: you can do that from synaptic i believe
[22:59] <llutz> PeterFA: dpkg --get-selections
[22:59] <fosscon> how could I fill a directory with empty directories named hi0000, hi0001, hi0002... hi9999 quickly?
[22:59] <PeterFA> llutz, ok great
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> fosscon: i'd ask in #bash if nobody answers
[23:00] <PeterFA> IdleOne, I didn't see a private message.
[23:00] <fosscon> ok
[23:00] <Losha> PeterFA: see the man page for dpkg, the EXAMPLES section...
[23:00] <PeterFA> Oh
[23:00] <IdleOne> !cloning | PeterFA
[23:02] <roberto_> hola alguien que hable español?
[23:02] <norbi905> Hello, I'v been using 9.04 with GNOME for about a month now and feel pretty comfortable with it.  I would like to howerver change to the PekWM window manager.  How would I go about doing this?  A fresh install is prefered.  I'v also heard that GNOME is fairly "embedded" within ubuntu.  Would this break any functionality by switching to this window manager?  Any input is appreciated.
[23:02] <llutz> fosscon:  for i in `seq 0000 9999`;do mkdir hi$i;done
[23:02] <timeRunner> hi
[23:02] <timeRunner> is anybody out there?
[23:02] <Losha> !es | roberto_
[23:02] <roberto_> hi tineruner
[23:02] <ByteJuggler> no, all the people on the right are just your imagination ;)
[23:03] <timeRunner> wow! i have a huge imagination
[23:03] <timeRunner> haha
[23:03] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about when/why to clip & zoom in dvd::rip?
[23:03] <rocket16> Hello friends.
[23:03] <badp> Hello. I used to be able to connect to my wireless router with this laptop, up until I finally installed Ubuntu on it. Now I can scan successfully but "authentication" (my network is open) times out. Intel vendor, e100 driver, acpi off. What can I do?
[23:03] <fosscon> thanks llutz
[23:03] <ByteJuggler> norbi - I'm not familiar with pekwm but assuming its part of the repositories you can install it alongside gnome
[23:03] <Losha> fosscon: why would you need such a thing?
[23:03] <ByteJuggler> also gnome is seperate enough to be removed from your ubuntu box is you actually wanted to do that
[23:04] <ByteJuggler> I'm not saying its trivial
[23:04] <ByteJuggler> just that it can be done
[23:04] <RussellAlan> using name.com how can i redirect a domain to another?
[23:04] <fosscon> Losha, I'm testing a small app to print the folders in a directory
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> badp: use a wired connection and get fully updated
[23:04] <fosscon> I'd like to see if it's working with a lot of directories in it
[23:04] <xangua> !ot > RussellAlan
[23:04] <badp> done already ActionParsnip
[23:04] <PeterFA> Thanks all, problem solved.
[23:04] <Losha> fosscon: ok, makes more sense now...
[23:04] <fosscon> :)
[23:04] <badp> I am /using/ the wired connection now.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> badp: ok cool
[23:05] <quietone> my HDMI port has stopped working. Are there any tools that can help me figure out the problem? And I've only got 1 cable and 1 external display.
[23:05] <jaydee> is there someone who can help with installing ar928x driver on netoobk?
[23:05] <norbi905> ByteJuggler, apt-cache search does bring up the window manager.  However, doing it this way I am keeping GNOME on the system.  I guess what i'm looking for is similar to the way Gentoo does it's installation, where you decide what you want upon installation.  Thanks for your input though.
[23:05] <rocket16> I just compiled a most basic PDF on common Ubuntu Tricks and Tips. I would be pleased to find any person here, who can make a review of the free-Book. Here is the Link to download: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mawgzzzzz3t Also, even if you are not willing to review, you are welcome to download and read this small PDF (26 Pages). All advice are welcome. (Sorry if I might have been offropic).
[23:05] <RussellAlan> or wrong window =D
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> norbi: I know gnome stays on your disk, i'm suggesting that's perhaps easier initially
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> you pick the session to use on logon
[23:06] <xangua> rocket16: ¬¬................
[23:06] <rocket16> xangua: Yes?
[23:06] <xangua> rocket16: then why not use the !ot channel¿
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> (there's a drop down where you can then pick whether to use gnome, pek, xfce, kde ...)
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> you can then uninstall gnome
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> after you logged into pek
[23:06] <jeff_hann> rocket16, it's not a PDF
[23:07] <rocket16> xangua: Actually, the reason is that, the people there hate newcomers, and drive them away, :(
[23:07] <rocket16> jeff_hann: It is, it is just compressed to .zip.
[23:07] <jeff_hann> I uncompressed it, it's a ODT file
[23:07] <norbi905> ByteJuggler, thanks will give a try as soon as I back up my files from this installation.  Thank you.  By the way, where in my home folder is the file where X looks for the window manager to start?
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> norbi: If you really want to start from scratch, there's an ubuntu minimalist cd
[23:08] <jeff_hann> norbi905, .xinitrc
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> which installs basically just the core sytsem
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> no GUI
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> then you can install packages as you wish by hand
[23:08] <norbi905> ByteJuggler, that's probably what i'm looking for, will look into it thanks.  I will however give it a try the way you suggested previously.
[23:09] <ByteJuggler> sure
[23:09] <norbi905> jeff_hann, .xinitrc is not within my home folder :(
[23:09] <jeff_hann> norbi905, then write one
[23:09] <jeff_hann> norbi905, it's "exec <path to window manager>"
[23:10] <jeff_hann> it's that simple
[23:10] <rocket16> jeff_hann: Oops, sorry, :( I gave a wrong File. The link is http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yiykuzm0mjy Sorry, :(
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> norbi, I think gdm also remembers what wm you used
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> when you log in
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> i forget where though
[23:11] <jnss> hi how do i lock my screen
[23:11] <norbi905> jeff_hann, Thank you for that, however, in this case that .xinitrc does not exist, how does X know what to start?
[23:11] <jnss> i run gnome and intrepid
[23:11] <jnss> hope 8.10 is still supported
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: nice doc dude, i'd add simdock to your list of docks for those who dont use compositing
[23:11] <jeff_hann> norbi905, it takes the global settings from /etc/X11
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jnss: not for much longer
[23:11] <jnss> but i was wodnering if there was a quick keycombo that will let me lock the sceren for when i take a pee or something
[23:11] <Faratl> I have downloaded virtual box and made a machine but it keeps telling me no bootable media found any suggestions?
[23:11] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Thanks, :D I will gladly add it to the PDF, :D
[23:12] <mattgyver> How could i reroute all audio (music, notifications) from one machine to another machine?  Can this be accomplished with MPD?
[23:12] <norbi905> Faratl, make sure you attach an .iso to the VM or boot it off the native CD/DVD rom drive
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Faratl: you need to config the box to boot an installation media to setup an OS on the box
[23:12] <domjohnson> Night, all
[23:12] <ttk1opc> super+l
[23:12] <bigga> i have a strange problem. is there any current known local root exploit un or very recently patched for ubuntu
[23:12]  * bigga would like root back
[23:13]  * bigga forgot his new password...#
[23:13] <jaydee> i need some help here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1460405
[23:13] <jaydee> PLZ!!!
[23:13] <OK_Then> Does anyone know when the new Ubuntu comes out?
[23:13] <Faratl> So I need to insert a cd to start up virtualbox
[23:13] <Pici> !lucid | OK_Then
[23:14] <OK_Then> Will it be OK to run on Wubi?
[23:14] <bigga> i could work out where the hash is on the disc, take it out, put it in another machine then write in new hash... yet only have 1 pc
[23:14] <Razion> I installed an application...And now I have no idea where it is. Is there a way to search for it?
[23:14] <Kajros> I am currently having problems with my audio working properly.  My speakers and headphones work fine in Windows 7 but when I boot up Ubuntu 9.10 only my speakers work and i can not get my headphones to work.  Any advice?
[23:14] <bigga> does grub provide any kind of disk editing
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Razion: check in alacarte, if its not there just try typing its name in a terminal
[23:14] <jeff_hann> jaydee, tried Google?
[23:14] <Pici> Faratl: You need to install an operating system from a disc or a disc image to use vbox.
[23:15] <Pici> !password | bigga
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Razion: use tab to complete, if it runs create a menu item using alacarte where you want it
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Faratl: a CD or ISO is fine
[23:15] <bigga> ubotto: i don't have sudo
[23:15] <bigga> i have a root account
[23:15] <arvigeus> 'rfkill unblock bluetooth' to fix bluetooth
[23:15] <jaydee> yes
[23:15] <Pici> bigga: Are you running Ubuntu?
[23:15] <Kajros> jaydee, download the driver from whatever website change to the directory of the driver and do a make then a make install in the terminal
[23:15] <bigga> yes and yes you can configure it like that way
[23:16] <bigga> by hand or with the debian installer disc
[23:16] <xplinux> if my ubuntu ylmf os is the same distro ubuntu but with other skin why i dont have support in  this site? http://picasaweb.google.es/112370194056728732538/DISTROYMLFOSXPUBUNTU910?authkey=Gv1sRgCOTTtqCWk_C5nAE#5463065604617397186
[23:16] <Losha> bigga: so do password recovery, per ubottu's message above...
[23:16] <jaydee> i get an error
[23:16] <jaydee> 1 2 and 3
[23:16] <bigga> Losha, my normal user has no sudo power
[23:16] <jeff_hann> jaydee, huh?
[23:17] <jaydee> what?
[23:17] <bigga> ahh rescue mode
[23:17] <jeff_hann> what do you mean by 1 2 and 3?
[23:17] <bigga> thanks for handy link
[23:18] <Razion> ActionParsnip: I get errors like crazy using alacarte... And it doesn't come up by typing it into the console. Any other ideas?
[23:18] <jaydee> error after within the command make
[23:18] <jeff_hann> jaydee, you're not helping me, you know
[23:19] <jnss> whyy doesnt lock screen LOCK MY SCREEN
[23:19] <jnss> it just never asks for a password
[23:19] <hehehe> can i use a single word for username?
[23:19] <jnss> waht the hell is up with thaty
[23:19] <jeff_hann> paste the exact error messages to pastebin.org, then paste the link
[23:19] <hehehe> *can i use a single letter for username?
[23:19] <Faratl> Can I download a cd image from ubuntu to get the virtual box to work
[23:19] <jeff_hann> hehehe, yes
[23:19] <Pici> Faratl: What OS do you want to run in virtual box?
[23:20] <Pici> !who
[23:20] <jeff_hann> hehehe, but not recommended
[23:20] <Faratl> OSE
[23:20] <hehehe> why?
[23:20] <Pici> Faratl: No.. What operating system do you want to run inside of virtual box.
[23:20] <jeff_hann> hehehe, security issues
[23:20] <Losha> hehehe: because it looks like a typo...
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Faratl: OSE ?
[23:20] <Razion> I installed an application...And now I have no idea where it is. Is there a way to search for it?
[23:20] <Faratl> Oh, windows XP
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Razion: can you otab complete its name in terminal?
[23:20] <Pici> Faratl: Then you need the Windows XP install CD.
[23:21] <Pici> Faratl: And a license for it.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> Faratl: then you will need a valid XP license and an install media
[23:21] <Faratl> Ok
[23:21] <hehehe> ok i will use a word then
[23:21] <hehehe> or name
[23:22] <Razion> ActionParsnip: No. I know the name of the application, but apparently it doesn't feel like existing/launching by its name.
[23:22] <techhelper1> i see, the cursur goes for like 5 seconds then nothing
[23:22] <techhelper1> cursor*
[23:22] <techhelper1> see if you run the app in terminal to see if it has errors
[23:22] <Losha> Razion: go to /var/cache/apt/archive and find the deb package for the application. Is it there?
[23:22] <hehehe> jeff_hann what if i use 2 letters?
[23:23] <hehehe> like initials
[23:23] <jeff_hann> hehehe, the more the better
[23:23] <Losha> hehehe: my regular username is 3 letters...
[23:23] <jeff_hann> hehehe, at least put a password that's hard to guess
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> Razion: what is the app's name?#
[23:23] <hehehe> yes ..
[23:23] <Kajros> I am currently having problems with my audio working properly.  My speakers and headphones work fine in Windows 7 but when I boot up Ubuntu 9.10 only my speakers work and i can not get my headphones to work.  Any advice?
[23:24] <Razion> ActionParsnip: Yes, the .deb package is there. And 3dchess. *Facepalm*
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !3dchess
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !info 3dchess
[23:24] <Razion> No, no. T_T; I'm trying to launch the damn thing. xD
[23:24] <hehehe> jeff_hann i mean if the password is strong why should i use a long username'
[23:24] <hehehe> ?
[23:24] <Losha> Razion: run dpkg -contents on the deb package. Look for anything with bin in the path...
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Razion: its on the repo dude. sudo apt-get install 3dchess
[23:25] <jeff_hann> not long as in 15 characters, but not 1 or 2
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Razion: it will then add an entry in the applications -> games   menu
[23:25] <jeff_hann> I mean , why do you want the username so short? you won't have to type it often
[23:25] <Razion> ActionParsnip: That's how I installed it. No entry.
[23:25] <hehehe> because i cant change the username
[23:25] <Losha> Razion: run dpkg --contents <package>  <-- two dashes. Look for anything with bin in the path...
[23:25] <hehehe> i dont want to put someting definitive
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Razion: if you type 3 in a terminal, then press tab a few times do you get options?
[23:26] <Razion> ActionParsnip: Thanks. The launch name is 3Dc.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Razion: or it may be gnome-3dchess
[23:26] <quuxman> hi... I just installed Ubuntu 10.04, and the default configuration looks quite impressive. However, as soon as I tried to set up my standard configuration I got pretty frustrated with the boot process
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Razion: oic, sweet
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Razion: please log a bug too :)
[23:27] <hehehe> jeff_hann so i should more letters just because of attra
[23:27] <randomusr> whenever I try to arrange packages by Officially supported Ubuntu vs those without support or updates, synaptic freezes. Is this a known bug?
[23:27] <_Ba_> hi, I've installed 10.04 rc and my soundcard is installed too but have no sound
[23:27] <hehehe> * jeff_hann so i should more letters just because of attacks?
[23:27] <Razion> !3dchess
[23:27] <jeff_hann> hehehe, well, that's my 2 cents
[23:27] <randomusr> _Ba_, please join ubuntu+1
[23:27] <Losha> !lucid | quuxman & _Ba_
[23:27] <techhelper1> quuxman / _Ba_  join #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[23:27] <Razion> Hmm. Will it matter that I'm on KDE, for those 3d effects?
[23:27] <z3r0-c001> where do i go to talk about 10.04
[23:28] <Vigo> !Lucid
[23:28] <hehehe> jeff_hann is that important to "hide" username?
[23:28] <CaptainTrek> !lucid > z3r0-c001
[23:28] <z3r0-c001> yes... lucid
[23:28] <Vigo> lower case?
[23:28] <CaptainTrek> z3r0: check you Pms
[23:28] <Vigo> !lucid
[23:28] <CaptainTrek> Vigo: antiflood.  you posted it after someone else did
[23:28] <jeff_hann> hehehe, not necessarily; just common security practice
[23:29] <CaptainTrek> Vigo: antiflood.  you posted it RIGHT afterwards
[23:29] <Vigo> CaptainTrek: Thank you
[23:29] <hal1> after copying the livecd to a partition on the laptop, I have managed to boot to a busybox command prompt.  Do you know how I can run the install process?
[23:29] <Losha> hehehe: depends who you're defending against. If you have an internet facing server, attackers have to guess both username & password to get in. Why make it easier for them?
[23:29] <hehehe> jeff_hann ok but if i my name for username it will
[23:29] <hehehe> it doesnt secure
[23:29] <jeff_hann> hehehe, Losha said it better than me
[23:30] <z3r0-c001> i seen that already is there a general chat session where i can talk about itn on irc
[23:30] <mps> #lisp
[23:30] <techhelper1> hal1 that is not how it works
[23:30] <techhelper1> what are you trying to do
[23:30] <techhelper1> if you are just doing the install, then run the cd as is
[23:30] <hehehe> jeff_hann i cant find what he wrote :\ paste pls
[23:31] <hal1> techhelper1: hi there - the dvdrom does not work
[23:31] <Losha> hehehe: depends who you're defending against. If you have an internet facing server, attackers have to guess both username & password to get in. Why make it easier for them?
[23:31] <hehehe> tks
[23:31] <jeff_hann>  hehehe: depends who you're defending against. If you have an internet facing server, attackers have to guess both username & password to get in. Why make it easier for them?
[23:31] <CaptainTrek> heh
[23:31] <jaydee> its me again
[23:31] <jeff_hann> :)
[23:31] <jaydee> madwifi
[23:31] <techhelper1> hal1 if you have windows on their, their are options like downloading wubi
[23:31] <hal1> techhelper1: so I have copied the livecd to a partition,and made the partition bootable and now I want to run the install process
[23:31] <techhelper1> and running it like that
[23:31] <zaxonspox> hal1 Create a LiveUSB Pen
[23:31] <jaydee> o
[23:31] <jaydee> bo
[23:31] <techhelper1> that as well ^
[23:31] <z3r0-c001> is there a general chat channel for ubuntu
[23:31] <jaydee> no
[23:32] <techhelper1> this would be it
[23:32] <Losha> z3r0-c001: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:32] <hal1> techhelper1: neither of those options are possible - this laptop willl not boot from a USB device
[23:32] <z3r0-c001> tnx
[23:32] <jaydee> jeff what was the link like for pasting srccode
[23:32] <hehehe> but when i say username i dont refer to the name im refering to that @name
[23:32] <techhelper1> did you totally start fresh?
[23:32] <hal1> techhelper1: is there any other way?
[23:32] <techhelper1> does it have windows on it at all?
[23:32] <jeff_hann> jaydee, pastebin.org
[23:32] <hal1> techhelper1: surely there is a way without windows?
[23:32] <hal1> I can't use windows
[23:33] <hal1> what other options are there?
[23:33] <techhelper1> network booting but that is a whole other realm
[23:33] <Shizuo> THANK YOU GUYS
[23:33] <hal1> I need to boot from one partition to install to the rest of the disk
[23:33] <zaxonspox> hal1 take the laptop hdd to another pc, and install there tubuntu, then put back hdd into laptop
[23:33] <Vigo> hal1: CLI
[23:33] <techhelper1> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[23:33] <hehehe> jeff_hann Losha is that name after "@" the username? like root@USERNAME
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> hal1: use a floppy disk to boot from a usb stick, the floppy will be the bootable device but will kick off the usb stuff for you  :)
[23:33] <hehehe> .:P
[23:34] <Losha> hal1: So you don't have windows, your cdrom is broken and you don't have usb? Is that right?
[23:34] <hal1> ActionParsnip: there is no floppy!  ;-(
[23:34] <hal1> yes
[23:34] <hal1> Losha:
[23:34] <zaxonspox> hal1 take the laptop hdd to another pc, and install there tubuntu, then put back hdd into laptop
[23:34] <jeff_hann> that is the hostname
[23:34] <jeff_hann> aka <user>@<username>
[23:34] <Losha> hal1: so how did you copy from the install dvd to a partition?
[23:34] <jeff_hann> sorry
[23:34] <hal1> Losha: on another machine

[23:35] <jeff_hann> *user
[23:35] <Vigo> ah, ok,,,
[23:35] <hehehe> jeff_hann oh yes.. so i was always talking about hostname
[23:35] <hal1> zaxonspox: I do not want to install over my main PC
[23:35] <zaxonspox> hal1 why? it is no problem, it will work after switching hdd back to laptop
[23:35] <Losha> hal1: I think you want to use unetbootin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  See the 'frugal install' option
[23:36] <hehehe> jeff_hann when i install ubuntu it creates a hostname based on USER right?
[23:36] <hal1> Losha: that is how I copied the files from the cd to the partition
[23:36] <simun> hello
[23:36] <jeff_hann> hehehe, no
[23:36] <hehehe> thats why i wanted to use a letter for USER so it would be the same for hostname
[23:36] <Losha> hal1: you might've mentioned that 10 minutes ago...
[23:36] <delac> hehehe: yes. something like user-desktop
[23:36] <hehehe> then i would change the USER
[23:37] <zaxonspox> hehehe you can change the hostname even with your normal username
[23:37] <simun> can somebody help me?
[23:37] <hal1> zaxonspox: it is not guaranteed to work because the autodetect process during install on the PC will not have loaded the correct drivers for the laptop
[23:37] <Vigo> hal1: Did you try a NetInstall?
[23:37] <hal1> Losha: I did - a number of times over the last few hours
[23:37] <jaydee> so how i use pastebin?
[23:37] <Vigo> !pastebin
[23:37] <Losha> hal1: I must've missed it, sorry...
[23:37] <hehehe> zaxonspox but then it will rename folders right..?
[23:37] <zaxonspox> hal1 once i did that and all have worked
[23:37] <Jordan_U> hal1: Almost all hardware detection is done at boot.
[23:37] <hal1> Vigo: I am trying to find an easier way
[23:38] <Jordan_U> hal1: The only exceptions being things that you need to configure yourself, like proprietary drivers.
[23:38] <hal1> I just find it really difficult to understand why what I want to do is not possible
[23:38] <zaxonspox> hehehe what folders? there is a folder constaining the hostname, you only change that entry
[23:38] <hal1> it has all the files there that it needs - from the livecd
[23:38] <hal1> why can't it just boot from that partition and install?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> hal1: You need a bootloader, have you installed one?
[23:39] <Vigo> hal1: Ok, here is the link if you want it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[23:39] <nsadmin> perhaps because there's not an installer present?
[23:39] <kitche> hal1: because you need a boot loader to understand on how to boot from that partition
[23:39] <hal1> thanks vigo - I will try that once I have exhausted other options
[23:39] <Subby> Hi, do I need a new sources.list für Releas Candidate 10.04? Because I don't get any new updates the last days
[23:39] <hehehe> zaxonspox what i want to do is like this (username)@(letter) dffsdffs@x i.e
[23:39] <nsadmin> I mean, they could have done it... but maybe they didn't
[23:39] <hal1> kitche: surely anything that is done at the bootloader can be done at the boot CLI?
[23:40] <Flamey> Any idea why video playback gets really choppy after I've played FlightGear, only gets back to normal after I reboot.
[23:40] <hal1> it's just parameters for initrd, isn't it?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> hal1: You can't get to a CLI without having a bootloader.
[23:40] <Losha> Subby: ask on #ubuntu+1
[23:40] <hal1> Jordan_U: I can get to the boot: menu, and I can get to the busybox cli
[23:41] <Jordan_U> hal1: What did you pass for the root= parameter?
[23:41] <zaxonspox> hehehe the hostname is in file /etc/hostname
[23:41] <hal1> Jordan_U: good point - I didn't!  ;-)
[23:41] <hehehe> so my last question is: can i change hostname easily?
[23:41] <hal1> Jordan_U: I used this to boot tho...
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !hostname | hehehe
[23:42] <hal1> -->  /casper/cmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz
[23:42] <delac> hehehe: READ THIS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774029
[23:42] <hal1> damn
[23:42] <hehehe> tks Jordan_U
[23:42] <hal1> -->  /casper/vmlinuz initrd=/casper/initrd.lz
[23:42] <zaxonspox> hehehe if you set a normal username and after that change the hostname name it could looks like username@x
[23:42] <hehehe> k i got it
[23:42] <hal1> Jordan_U: do I need a root parameter to get it to run the install processes?
[23:42] <ByteJuggler> hal1: the problem is those files are inside the ISO image...
[23:43] <ByteJuggler> you need an initrd to get bootstrapped enough to be able to mount the ISO
[23:43] <ByteJuggler> (I think)
[23:43] <hal1> ByteJuggler: no, the livecd iso has been extracted - the partition looks exactly the same as it would if you browse the livecd
[23:43] <ByteJuggler> ah
[23:43] <Jordan_U> hal1: The kernel is loaded by the bootloader, so it's only the bootloader that knows where the root filesystem is unless you pass a root= paramerter, like root=/dev/sdb1
[23:43] <ByteJuggler> ic
[23:44] <Jefferson> i ai
[23:44] <bobby_> Anybody here not using Lucid?
[23:44] <Jefferson> pessoal
[23:44] <Pici> bobby_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[23:44] <ByteJuggler> bobby: well, depends on your definition of "use"
[23:44] <jaydee> jeff?
[23:44] <nsadmin> hal1: do you have the install guide? if you're finding that people who are around at the moment can't help you with the exact custom flavor with all the specific bells and whistles you want on your special install, maybe you can piece together your own solution from the install guide
[23:44] <hehehe> delac tks for the link
[23:44] <jeff_hann> jaydee, I ask this for the 3rd time
[23:44] <ByteJuggler> bobby: but yes (although the others are rapidly diminishing)
[23:44] <jeff_hann> ask in the channel
[23:45] <Losha> bobby_: diehard 8.04 user here...
[23:45] <hal1> nsadmin: I know what you mean, but I really don't need any "bells and whistles" apart from it to start the install process
[23:45] <ByteJuggler> (also still have 8.04 hardy on my main "server" box)
[23:46] <nsadmin> but you're still having problems finding people that know how to do what you're interested in doing?
[23:46] <ByteJuggler> hal1: frankly, if i was in your shoes, i'd do a minimalist install using another pc
[23:46] <ByteJuggler> on the disk in question
[23:46] <ByteJuggler> (e.g. the laptop disk)
[23:46] <ByteJuggler> and then boot from that and install further by hand
[23:47] <hal1> ok, what is /isolinux/isolinux.bin?
[23:47] <ByteJuggler> (I might even do a full install -- Linux is very good at "just working" on alternate hardware)
[23:47] <nsadmin> what is the deal exactly... no net to the laptop? can't boot a cd?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> hal1: Not usefull for you.
[23:47] <ByteJuggler> nsadmin: yes
[23:47] <nsadmin> so no net AND can't boot a cd?
[23:47] <ByteJuggler> nsadmin: essentially -- no cd, no usb, not sure about network
[23:47] <zaxonspox> hal1 linux is POSIX standard compatible, use you PC with Laptop HDD to install Ubuntu. It will work
[23:47] <Jordan_U> hal1: Try setting root= before anything else.
[23:47] <ByteJuggler> nsadmin : no floppy either
[23:48] <hal1> nsadmin: no DVDROM, no floppy.  Yes, there is the net, but that is a hassle to set up, so I would rather avoid it
[23:48] <hal1> Jordan_U: what should I set it to?
[23:48] <Jordan_U> zaxonspox: POSIX has nothing to do with hardware compatability.
[23:48] <jaydee> jeff?
[23:48] <Losha> hal1: hassle is relative. You're not exactly having an easy time of it now...
[23:48] <jeff_hann> jaydee, yes
[23:48] <nsadmin> so you want to avoid the ways that would create ease for the helpers
[23:48] <hal1> Losha: no, but I am not giving up
[23:48] <nsadmin> how much money you got?
[23:48] <jaydee> fially
[23:49] <hal1> nsadmin: how is that relevant?
[23:49] <jaydee> how do i use pastebin?
[23:49] <jeff_hann> did you go to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[23:49] <jaydee> i paste the error in the box there and noW?
[23:49] <Losha> jaydee: nothing to it. Go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com, type something in, hit submit, then tell us the url
[23:49] <jaydee> NO PASTEBIN
[23:50] <jaydee> oh thanks
[23:50] <nsadmin> jaydee: do you see your paste on the site
[23:50] <jaydee> im new sry
[23:50] <jeff_hann> jaydee, the url = the address
[23:50] <benkevan> http://www.freetechie.com/blog/warning-change-your-google-account-password/ < Change your passwords peeps
[23:50] <Razion> How do I find out what my video card is in Linux? :P
[23:50] <jaydee> thx
[23:50] <jeff_hann> Razion, lspci -vv | grep VGA
[23:50] <zaxonspox> Razio sudo lspci | grep VGA
[23:50] <Jordan_U> hal1: /dev/sdXX, where XX is the drive, a letter where the first drive is a, the second b etc and a number (the partition number, in your case probably 1)
[23:51] <jeff_hann> Razion, no need for sudo
[23:51] <Razion> jeff_hann: Yeah, I know. It just gave me a list of options...Which one shows me what card it is? :P
[23:51] <hal1> Jordan_U: thank you, I will try that!  But what exactly will start the install process?  What file will be executed?
[23:51] <jeff_hann> did you type exactly as I said?
[23:52] <merlin2049er> hey, anyone know how to burn a (.bin or .cue) file?
[23:52] <Razion> jeff_hann: Nope. xD Forgot the pipe.
[23:52] <zaxonspox> Razion dont use -vv use simple lspci
[23:52] <Jordan_U> hal1: If all goes well you will be brought to a full live Ubuntu system with an install icon on the desktop.
[23:52] <jeff_hann> zaxonspox, why should he not use '-vv' ?
[23:53] <ByteJuggler> hmm, nero image eh?
[23:53] <Razion> Well. It didn't come up with -vv anyways.
[23:53] <merlin2049er> no
[23:53] <Razion> -vv gave me a cryptic list.
[23:53] <merlin2049er> i got brassero
[23:53] <merlin2049er> and gnome bake
[23:53] <Razion> Ugh. it's an onboard. So how the heck do I find a driver for it?
[23:53] <jeff_hann> ok, use without -vv :-)
[23:53] <jeff_hann> what board is it?
[23:54] <zaxonspox> jeff_hann: beacuse i always get the name of video card by simple lspci, now i tested your cmd and didnt see name of my video card
[23:54] <jaydee> is it right now>
[23:54] <jaydee> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/5fGEDs6X
[23:54] <hal1> Jordan_U: if that works, how could I then install ubuntu onto the rest of the disk?
[23:54] <jaydee> ?
[23:54] <jeff_hann> zaxonspox, the line before the last is your card
[23:54] <ByteJuggler> merlin: I think brasero supports cue files
[23:54] <ByteJuggler> merlin: so you should be able to use it
[23:54] <Jordan_U> hal1: You're going to have problems installing to the same disk you are booting from.
[23:55] <hal1> hmm :-/
[23:55] <Razion> It's a P4M80 [S3 unichrome Pro]
[23:55] <jeff_hann> jaydee, put 'sudo' in front of 'make'
[23:55] <zaxonspox> jeff_hann: ok, but not line from last, i get 5th from the last
[23:55] <jaydee> its the same message
[23:55] <jeff_hann> jaydee, then put su -c make
[23:55] <ByteJuggler> hal: If you leave enough free space for a new instalaltion partition
[23:55] <ByteJuggler> you should be ok
[23:55] <ByteJuggler> even if it's teh same disk
[23:56] <ByteJuggler> (touch wood)
[23:56] <jaydee> i try
[23:56] <FloodBot4> ByteJuggler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <Jordan_U> hal1: You don't have any flash drive?
[23:56] <ByteJuggler> lol@floodbot4
[23:56] <hehehe> jeff_hann "what is your name
[23:56] <hehehe> jeff_hann "what is your name "
[23:56] <jeff_hann> hehehe, sorry?
[23:56] <hehehe> sorry.. jeff_hann "what is your name?" is the hostname
[23:56] <hehehe> right?
[23:56] <jaydee> asking for a password
[23:56] <ByteJuggler> jordan_u: he has no usb, no cd, no floppy, only net (which is a hassle to set up)...
[23:56] <Razion> My mobo is a It's a P4M80 [S3 unichrome Pro video]. So where might I find a linux driver for it?
[23:57] <hehehe> jeff_hann im installing ubunu..
[23:57] <hal1> Jordan_U: yes, but I can't boot from it
[23:57] <jeff_hann> jaydee, well, enter the password
[23:57] <hehehe> jeff_hann im installing ubuntu.
[23:57] <Pici> hehehe: No, it wants to know what your name is.
[23:57] <jaydee> which?
[23:57] <jeff_hann> hehehe, type in your name
[23:57] <Losha> Can someone talk to me about when/why to clip & zoom in dvd::rip?
[23:57] <hehehe> ok but it will use that name for hostname?
[23:57] <hehehe> just asking
[23:57] <Pici> hehehe: No, it will prompt you for the hostname
[23:57] <hehehe> hm ok
[23:58] <Pici> Losha: I'd be happy to explain in -offtopic
[23:58] <jeff_hann> jaydee, wait; type in another terminal window 'sudo su -c passwd' then choose a password
[23:58] <Jordan_U> hal1: You don't need to be able to boot from it, you just need to put the iso (*not* the contents of the iso) on it.
[23:58] <jeff_hann> jaydee, then type that password
[23:58] <jaydee> ok
[23:58] <hehehe> and login name is the username@
[23:59] <zaxonspox> hehehe yes
[23:59] <delac> hehehe: yes
[23:59] <delac> hehehe: and the username-desktop is the hostname
[23:59] <delac> hehehe: but you can change it
[23:59] <hal1> Jordan_U: I don't understand - how would that work?
[23:59] <hal1> Jordan_U: what would I do then?
[23:59] <jaydee> its the same error again
[23:59] <abstrakt> where are hotkey settings?
[23:59] <jeff_hann> jaydee, impossible
[23:59] <Jordan_U> hal1: Then you can pass the parameter iso-scan/filename=/path/to/iso to the kernel and it will load itself from the iso file on the flash drive.