[00:00] <Waldir> oCean_: yes, yes
[00:00] <vigo> abstrakt: My apologies, you can choose almost any GNU/GPL or whatever for the interface, I like Gnome,KDE, and others.
[00:00] <llecc> join #vim
[00:00] <gausie> oCean_: when i ammend it, the line reads "root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash init=/bin/sh
[00:01] <oCean_> Waldir: that is weird. When I browse to, say, my homedir and right-click > properties, then I go to the tab the is called Open With, then there is either one (the default) application, or more applications I can choose from
[00:01] <Waldir> yes, me too, but no radio buttons ~^
[00:01] <abstrakt> ok, and so how do i install updatedb/locate? what package are they in?
[00:02] <abstrakt> vigo, k, so... what was the question/concern again?
[00:02] <oCean_> gausie: well, you can remove the quiet and splash part, but I'm not sure whether that will do the trick.
[00:02] <woski> I just got sound working over hdmi for media on myth, but it's not getting sound from the TV card (via pci).  any thoughts?
[00:03] <oCean_> Waldir: Right-click and not the list you see at THAT point
[00:03] <oCean_> Waldir: (just to make sure)
[00:03] <vigo> abstract: something about interfaces, there are many choices
[00:03] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[00:03] <Waldir> oCean_: yes, I know :)
[00:04] <gausie> oCean_: The tail of it is "Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ... Done. Done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done.", then a flashing underscore
[00:04] <gausie> oCean_: if it helps, im using linux mint
[00:06] <oCean_> Waldir: ok. Just to make sure we're on the same page. See here my example: http://imagebin.org/44015
[00:06] <abstrakt> vigo, something about them?
[00:06] <abstrakt> vigo, well that helps</sarcasm>
[00:07] <oCean_> gausie: and you are not able to input anything?
[00:07] <gausie> oCean_: well i can write on the screen as much as i like, but its not doing anything
[00:07] <vigo> abstract: You originally asked about the gnome desktop, there are many, KDE,Gnome,XFCE, and roll your own.
[00:07] <oCean_> gausie: Understood. it might be different on mint. Then, you should try the livecd I think
[00:08] <abstrakt> vigo, er... no i didn't ask anything
[00:08] <gausie> oCean_: ok, thanks for the help!
[00:08] <oCean_> gausie: sure. good luck
[00:08] <abstrakt> vigo, i'm quite aware that there are lots of options
[00:08] <abstrakt> vigo, i've used FVWM, OpenBox, BlackBox, XFCE, WindowMaker, you name it
[00:08] <llecc> i'm using vim 7.1 on ubuntu 8.10. "set ruler" isn't working... any ideas how to fix that?
[00:08] <abstrakt> vigo, i used to run *nix as my primary desktop for about 5 years
[00:08] <eqisow> Does anybody know if you can encrypt a LVM volume that already has data on it?
[00:08] <vigo> abstract: Then you have my apologies, I am trying to get this silly phone thing working, It is all fun.
[00:08] <abstrakt> llecc, yeah, ask #vim
[00:09] <llecc> abstrakt: it works for everybody there not using ubuntu... they don't know how to solve
[00:09] <llecc> abstrakt: not mention that it was obviously the first place i asked... so next time, if you don't know the answer, just shut the fuck up you goddamn negro
[00:09] <abstrakt> llecc, ...
[00:09] <abstrakt> wow
[00:10] <abstrakt> !ops ?
[00:10] <abstrakt> !ops
[00:10] <FloodBot2> abstrakt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <TwoToneSpirit> Hey - does anybody have experience with WPA2 connections?  When I open the dialog to choose a CA Certificate, I have no idea where to look.
[00:10] <Waldir> oCean_: http://imagebin.org/44017
[00:12] <oCean_> Waldir: That might be because this file has no association just yet. So, there is no default app to start with
[00:12] <gausie> i wiped all the groups my account wsa in. i'm using a live disk to add myself to the groups again, but which should i be in by default?
[00:12] <Waldir> but there is. it's a text file
[00:12] <Waldir> oCean_: right now the default is "text editor" (gedit)
[00:12] <dreamy> hello room
[00:13] <abstrakt> Waldir, what kind of file is that?
[00:13] <abstrakt> Waldir, is it literally a plain text file?
[00:13] <Frijolie> can anyone help me get my portable media player to mount?
[00:13] <oCean_> Waldir: But in the screenshot it says "wikimedia logos" and NOT .txt
[00:13] <abstrakt> Waldir, or is it some special archive...
[00:13] <Frijolie> this last kernel update has killed it (it no longer automounts)
[00:14] <Waldir> abstrakt: no, I created it with gedit :)
[00:14] <abstrakt> Waldir, k... and you want to open it with...
[00:14] <abstrakt> ?
[00:14] <oCean_> Waldir: It does know the filetype, but apperantly the association is based on the .txt extension?
[00:14] <abstrakt> Waldir, i don't understand the problem
[00:14] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: did you need any additional modules?
[00:14] <vigo> Fspot or some image thing, could be a png, or HTML
[00:14] <slimjimflim> anybody know what command 'system -> preferences -> sound' runs?
[00:14] <Waldir> I want to open it with leafpad
[00:14] <Waldir> oCean_: I'll try adding txt then
[00:14] <abstrakt> Waldir, yeah most file type detections in Nautilus i think are done with name extensions... though i think there's an option to have nautilus check filetypes based on contents also
[00:15] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, not to my knowledge
[00:15] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: kernel updates often mean you need to reinstall kernel modules
[00:15] <abstrakt> Waldir, what's leafpad?
[00:15] <lstarnes> slimjimflim: gnome-sound-properties
[00:15] <slimjimflim> ty
[00:15] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, I don't remember adding any additional models
[00:15] <Waldir> abstrakt: it's just another text editor.. much lighter
[00:15] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, er modules
[00:15] <oCean_> Waldir: yes. As I said you can add leafpad as 'custom' app to that list, and then set it default for that type
[00:15] <abstrakt> Waldir, ah
[00:16] <oCean_> Waldir: and yes, the list gets longer that way, but that is hardly a problem I think
[00:16] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: what type is it? did it just as as a normal mass media device?
[00:16] <abstrakt> Waldir, or you could open leafpad, and then just drag'n'drop the file into it
[00:16] <abstrakt> Waldir, that's what i do
[00:16] <Waldir> abstrakt: lol
[00:16] <dmsuperman> slimjimflim: Just FYI: You can click System -> Preferences -> Main Menu, find the menu item, and right click it and go to "Properties" to see which command it runs
[00:16] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, yeah, I have it in MSC mode (it's just seen as an external USB drive)
[00:16] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, it's seen in mount
[00:16] <abstrakt> i don't bother with script kiddie editors anymore
[00:16] <Waldir> oCean_: how do I set it as default?
[00:16] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, but not in lsusb
[00:17] <Waldir> oCean_: nvm
[00:17] <oCean_> Waldir: it probably is, after setting it for *this* file of type .txt
[00:17] <oCean_> Waldir: at least I guess it works that way
[00:17] <Waldir> oCean_: no, it didnt stick as default :(
[00:18] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: does it not detect it when you plug it in then?
[00:18] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, no, it used to mount automatically and now when it's plugged in I get nothing on the desktop
[00:19] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, and now when I plug it in the device continually turns on/off
[00:19] <oCean_> Waldir: Well, when I set my .pdf files not to be opened by evince, but by acroreader, all pdf's files are opened by acroreader.
[00:19] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, and it has the latest firmware
[00:19] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: that's odd, and i'm afraid i don't have an answer for you as it's not something i've found
[00:19] <Waldir> oCean_: yes, that also happened with pdf files here, but for txt they seem to stick with gedit for some reason... weird
[00:19] <Frijolie> skonofstars11, and it's a Sansa Fuze
[00:20] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: sorry, latest firmware? on the device?
[00:20] <oCean_> Waldir: Ah, sorry.. i don't know then
[00:20] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, yes, firmware on the Fuze
[00:20] <Waldir> oCean_: I'll figure it out sooner or later... it's not even a week since i moved to linux :)
[00:21] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, mount says something about gvfs-fuse-daemon
[00:21] <abstrakt> Waldir, no syntax hilite?
[00:21] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, before it was just /dev/sdb1
[00:21] <abstrakt> bah... guess it's just a notepad clone with better Undo features
[00:21] <oCean_> Waldir: ok! keep up the good work! :)
[00:21] <TheFunkbomb> is anyone familiar with mail notification?  it won't let me open the program again to add more accounts
[00:21] <abstrakt> Waldir, are you a coder?
[00:21] <madhatter1> hey everyone, is there any way to get "xanalogtv" working on gnome-screensaver?
[00:22] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: fuse is a userland file system
[00:22] <gewoon> Voer tekst hier in...tttt
[00:22] <Waldir> abstrakt: wannabe, perhaps xD
[00:22] <abstrakt> ubottu, de
[00:22] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, it was FAT before..i haven't changed it
[00:22] <abstrakt> Waldir, how old are you? (if you don't mind answering or me asking)
[00:22] <Waldir> abstrakt: why would I bother? :) I'm 23, why?
[00:22] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: yeah, i mean on your computer
[00:23] <abstrakt> Waldir, why would you bother what?
[00:23] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, huh? my Hard Drive is formatted as ext3
[00:24] <kara-away> someone just told me to use #rm -rf * to set every file in a directory as executable.
[00:24] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace
[00:24] <abstrakt> kara-away, hahahaha
[00:24] <kara-away> isn't that the delete everything command?
[00:24] <lstarnes> kara-away: yes
[00:24] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: this probably won't help solve your problem, but it should give you a better understanding of what gvs-fuse does
[00:24] <Waldir> abstrakt: bother about telling you my age :)
[00:25] <kara-away> thanks for confirming.  and thanks to the ubuntu forums for telling me to NEVER EVER DO THAT, or I might have listened.
[00:25] <abstrakt> Waldir, well if it's a bother, then don't... but i figured maybe you would bother to tell me your age because I asked... and so I asked, and so you told me
[00:25] <Waldir> lool
[00:26] <Waldir> but I'm curious about the reason why you asked :)
[00:26] <MenZa> Guys, the whole age-discussion thingo isn't exactly fit for #ubuntu - could you continue in a /query, or alternatively, #ubuntu-offtopic? This channel is only for support. :)
[00:26] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, any idea as to why it would have been mounted differently? /dev/sdb1 > gvs-fuse?
[00:26] <kara-away> can you please tell me how to do what I was originally trying to do, which is to give read/execute permission to every file in a directory?
[00:27] <lstarnes> kara-away: chmod +rx *
[00:27] <abstrakt> Waldir, communication enhancement. if i know your age i can better decide what to say to you and how to say it to you. if you're 12 i'm gonna say things differently than if you're 65 than if you're 23
[00:27] <kara-away> thank you, lstarnes
[00:28] <abstrakt> Waldir, of course i realize you could be lying to me about your age... but given that you would only be degrading the quality of possible future communication and help you might recieve... it doesn't bother me
[00:28] <kara-away> this guy doesn't even think he's a jerk for that.  he thinks he's funny.  :(
[00:28] <Waldir> abstrakt: lol, ok :) I tend to decide on the basis of the conversations I have with people
[00:28] <aspoor> lol
[00:28] <abstrakt> Waldir, ultimately that's the only thing that matters
[00:29] <abstrakt> Waldir, but extra information about a person can aide communication
[00:29] <oCean_> kara-away: not in this channel, I hope?
[00:29] <aspoor> 99 cent cheeseburger?
[00:29] <Waldir> abstrakt: instead of asking... since many times the real age and the mental age mismatch
[00:29] <Waldir> abstrakt: sure
[00:29] <kara-away> oh, gosh, no.  I mostly hang out in #math and #not-math, and I'm trying to get ocaml going so I can install HOL Light...
[00:29] <Waldir> plus it can assure you that your judgement was correct (in case it was, lol)
[00:29] <kara-away> I know the basics of using ubuntu, but I don't have a lot of the commands down.  Fortunately, I do know that one.
[00:29] <Waldir> well, guys, I'll be back but for today I gotta go
[00:30] <Waldir> it's past midnight here
[00:30] <abstrakt> Waldir, UK?
[00:30] <Waldir> abstrakt: portugal :)
[00:30] <abstrakt> ah, euro
[00:30] <abstrakt> figured
[00:31] <oCean_> kara-away: Just starting ubuntu ej? Download your free copy of the pocketguide here: http://ubuntupocketguide.com/download3.html
[00:31] <zhurai> normally, how long does it take for wubi to install?
[00:31] <kara-away> thanks, oCean_ :)
[00:32] <zhurai> cause I have someone that is taking 2-3 hours, and still on 15%
[00:32] <abstrakt> zhurai, on a slow computer i'd give it all day
[00:32] <mafsi> oCean_: running weechat now :)
[00:32] <zhurai> :|
[00:32] <zhurai> that might be why
[00:32] <oCean_> mafsi: ok!
[00:32] <Waldir> oCean_, abstrakt, thanks for the help. see you later!
[00:32] <kara-away> looks like I have ocaml going.  thanks for the help.
[00:32] <UKGent> zhurai   depends a bit on your connection speed but that seems very long - in my case on ADSL it took about 45 mins
[00:33] <zhurai> hmm
[00:33] <zhurai> <Akatsuki> still 15% there
[00:33] <zhurai> <zhurai> huh, how long have you been at it O_o
[00:33] <zhurai> <Akatsuki> 2-3 hours o_O
[00:33] <zhurai> <Akatsuki> it says scanning files
[00:33] <FloodBot2> zhurai: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <UKGent> and that included getting the updates after install really
[00:33] <zhurai> oh
[00:33] <GentooJohnny> I started gnome and all of the menus and such are gone. how do I get them back
 it's done the downloading part quick
 just the scanning of the files
 or it just froze
[00:34] <zhurai> o_O
[00:34] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, ? the menus are "gone" ?
[00:34] <aspoor> Anyone hear that stuff about google phone service?
[00:34] <GentooJohnny> the bars top and bottom
[00:34] <zhurai> you mean you lost your panels?
[00:34] <zhurai> ...did you delete them maybe by accident?
[00:34] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, yeah the taskbars... dunno, sounds like you messed something up... i'd reboot fully
[00:34] <UKGent> zhurai - I found xubuntu quicker though - which is what I installed - because it does not download Open Office during installation. That is what takes most of the time. He might want to consider xubuntu if connection is slow
[00:34] <GentooJohnny> im sure they are running somewhere. what are they called
[00:34] <zhurai> he says it already dled
[00:34] <GentooJohnny> gnome-panel?
[00:35] <zhurai> it's "scanning"
[00:35] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, px ax | grep gnome
[00:35] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, ps ax | grep panel
[00:35] <ugliefrog> amyone know if there is a ee pc irc channel
[00:35] <spaceBARbarian> i am using jaunty on my laptop and for some reason ubuntu doesnt remember my volume settings after a reboot
[00:35] <spaceBARbarian> anyone know why ?
[00:36] <GentooJohnny> abstrakt: I killed it and it restarted
[00:36] <GentooJohnny> but still doesn't show
[00:36] <zhurai> UKGent: it's already dled he said, and it says it's scanning, for 2~3 hrs ish
[00:36] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, as i said... i would do a full reboot
[00:36] <vox> GentooJohnny: reboot
[00:36] <GentooJohnny> abstrakt: I just did one.
[00:36] <GentooJohnny> Ill do another
[00:36] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, and if you've done that, then i'd go muck around with GDM and try to get my old configuration back
[00:36] <ugliefrog> amyone know if there is a ee pc irc channel
[00:37] <abstrakt> ugliefrog, heard you the first time... wtf is ee pc ?
[00:37] <aiarakoa> like a mini cooper, laptop version :)
[00:37] <aiarakoa> tiny, tiny
[00:37] <ugliefrog> its my daughters net top
[00:38] <oCean_> ugliefrog: yes, there is #ubuntu-eeepc, but I'm not sure if there is any activity
[00:38] <ugliefrog> k thank you ill give it a try
[00:39] <abstrakt> is that one of those tiny $300 acer's from Wal-mart?
[00:39] <abstrakt> ugliefrog, ^
[00:39] <HacUrMac> New 2 Ubuntu...having problems with sites not finding java...Pogo.com keeps saying"Somewhere along the way to your destination, the address (location) you were trying to get to was garbled."
[00:40] <zeta> LOL, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
[00:40] <spaceBARbarian> i am using jaunty on my laptop and for some reason ubuntu doesnt remember my volume settings after a reboot, anyone know how to fix this ?
[00:41] <oCean_> abstrakt: no, it's the 7, 9 or 10 inch mini laptops from asus
[00:41] <GentooJohnny> alright. a full reboot did not fix gnome-panel
[00:41] <Flannel> zeta: What?
[00:41] <Flannel> spaceBARbarian: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[00:41] <abstrakt> oCean_, mmm... i think we're talking about the same thing
[00:41] <abstrakt> asus, acer, whatever
[00:41] <abstrakt> one of those A words
[00:42] <GentooJohnny> eeepc is by asus
[00:42] <Chowder> spaceBARbarian, sudo alsactl store
[00:42] <abstrakt> i saw that they come with Ubuntu, which intrigued me
[00:42] <phaer> how can i start gdm on :1 ?
[00:42] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, i would create a new GDM session thinger
[00:42] <fbc-mx> Why does kde 4.2 get spring loaded folders and we don't. I'd like to see spring loaded folders in Nautilus, too
[00:42] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, i don't really know how to explain what i would do... but i know what i would do... and it has to do with GDM
[00:42] <GentooJohnny> abstrakt: I was hoping I wouldn't have to
[00:43] <abstrakt> fbc-mx, so add them
[00:43] <Doonz> Hey Guys what would be the cause for my network being totally hosed (extremely slow) when i copy a file from a usb ntfs drive?
[00:43] <fbc-mx> abstrakt, how?
[00:43] <abstrakt> fbc-mx, um... same way you would add any feature to Nautilus
[00:43] <abstrakt> fbc-mx, it *is* open source
[00:44] <phaer> Doonz: is the cpu busy? is all memory in use?
[00:44] <nubuntu> how do i get wireshark to load?
[00:44] <nubuntu> where is it located on the disk?
[00:45] <Doonz> its dual core xeons with only one core running at less the 20% ram is only 500mg outta 8gb
[00:45] <phaer> Doonz: i did not use ntfs for 1 or 2 years, but i can remember that one ntfs driver ate all my power
[00:45] <phaer> Doonz: than i cant help you ;)
[00:45] <Chowder> nubuntu, "whereis wireshark"
[00:45] <Chowder> or use the search tool to find it
[00:45] <Doonz> phaer:  ok np. /me goes on grumbling about stupid work drived
[00:46] <Frijolie> anyone help to get a portable media player to mount?
[00:46] <brizuela> l
[00:46] <fbc-mx> abstrakt, yeah, but that assumes that I know how to program in something other than php.
[00:46] <GentooJohnny> abstrakt: gdm doesn't give a choice of seting up a new login. just create a new user?
[00:46] <phaer> !ask
[00:48] <abstrakt> fbc-mx, not really. it assumes that you're smart enough to program. programming is really 90% about reading the manual. and any new open source project you work on you'll have to learn the system and how it's coded.
[00:48] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, yeah i would create a new user and see if you can get that to work
[00:48] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, and or delete the old user too and re-create it
[00:48] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, which should, in effect, create a completely brand new session
[00:49] <Frijolie> guess I stumped everyone
[00:50] <abstrakt> Frijolie, no you just have been to unobservant to notice that someone told you something already
[00:50] <abstrakt> s/to/too/
[00:51] <Frijolie> abstrakt, then I must be blind..i don't see anything
[00:51] <TimReichhart> I am needing some help on setting up my vpn server I am using smoothwall and that got my vpn server.
[00:52] <Doonz> hey guys
[00:53] <Doonz> say im doing a cp command is there a way to see how fast its copying and how much time is left?
[00:53] <abstrakt> apparently my dedi-server has two IP addresses
[00:53] <abstrakt> one on eth0 and one on eth1
[00:53] <abstrakt> the one on eth0 is the ip address that was sent to me in my welcome email
[00:53] <illovae> Doonz: you have to patch coreutils for that with the gentoo patch, or use a tool and pipe you cp command
[00:53] <illovae> s/you/your
[00:53] <infomomo> abstrakt: that's normal
[00:54] <abstrakt> seems like i should be able to just go to http://my.ip.add.ress/
[00:54] <abstrakt> and that apache should report "it works"
[00:54] <Doonz> illovae: thanx
[00:54] <abstrakt> because i did nothing more than the default install of apache
[00:54] <infomomo> abstrakt: right
[00:54] <abstrakt> aptitude install apache2
[00:54] <abstrakt> infomomo, however i get a Firefox error... i can paste exactly which one if you want
[00:54] <abstrakt> infomomo, i'm kinda stumped as to why i can't even get to the default site when i just go straight to the IP
[00:54] <infomomo> abstrakt: i am no pro, but go ahead
[00:55] <infomomo> paste the ip
[00:55] <Roasted> Is there network cloning software for Ubuntu? Like with Ghost/Windows, but with Ubuntu with the same capabilities that Ghost has?
[00:55] <spaceBARbarian> how do i add a command line launcher to a panel ?
[00:55] <abstrakt> infomomo, i'd prefer to /msg you the ip if that's ok
[00:55] <Huufarted> Roasted, G4L.  Ghost4Linux
[00:55] <infomomo> Roasted: clonezilla
[00:55] <abstrakt> just don't want my private server ip in a public chan
[00:55] <Frijolie> it's seen by Mount as a gvs-fuse and lsusb doesn't see it at all
[00:55] <abstrakt> infomomo, ok to /msg you?
[00:55] <infomomo> abstrakt: right
[00:55] <Frijolie> er gvfs-fuse-daemon
[00:56] <Roasted> infomomo - I spent 4 months trying to get clonezilla right. That product doesnt do the job like I thought it would.
[00:56] <abstrakt> infomomo, right now the NameVirtualHost directive just says NameVirtualHost *
[00:56] <abstrakt> which afaik should be fine... and the listen directive is just Listen 80
[00:56] <Huufarted> Roasted, Ghost4Linux.
[00:56] <datruth> how can i disable the touchpad mouse on mylaptop and only use my usb?
[00:56] <abstrakt> so that should bind apache to any and all ip's available right?
[00:56] <Huufarted> Roasted, just google 'g4l' and you'll find it
[00:56] <Roasted> huufarted - all right, I'll try that. Is that an open so urce product that has a decent userbase? like with a forum and all?
[00:56] <Huufarted> yes, Roasted.
[00:56] <Roasted> huufarted - have you used it?
[00:56] <Huufarted> Not much to talk about, though.  It does its work well
[00:56] <Huufarted> Roasted, yes.
[00:57] <Roasted> huufarted - have you used clonezilla server?
[00:57] <Huufarted> Roasted, took a 160 GB Laptop HDD dual boot with Windows, moved it to a 500 GB drive, removed the NTFS, moved the Ext3, moved the SWAP part, extended my /home part and it worked PERFECTLY.
[00:57] <infomomo> abstrakt: pm me
[00:57] <Roasted> huufarted - with G4L or CZ Server?
[00:57] <Huufarted> Roasted, G4L
[00:58] <Roasted> huufarted - good stuff. Does G4L support windows at all, or is it linux only?
[00:58] <Huufarted> Roasted, it uses 'dd' so it works on ANY partition.  It moves byte-for-byte.  Doesn't care what partition.
[00:58] <Roasted> huufarted - good stuff. Have you used FOG?
[00:58] <Huufarted> Roasted, sorry.  never heard of it.
[00:58] <TheFunkbomb> Can anyone tell me how to add Mail Notifications to my Sessions start up?
[00:59] <Roasted> huufarted - check it out. Open source, free, runs on top of Ubuntu... I have been using ita t work and it works so great, I'm so thankful that I found it. It's primarily gauged towards educational and government purposes, which is up my alley since Im a tech @ a school district. Only thing is, it's geared more for Windows workstations, even though it's linux based. But I got to thinking, if FOG works great with Ubuntu (as the server)
[00:59] <Roasted>  and Windows (as the clients), what would happen if I had 1800 Ubuntu machines instead of 1800 XP machines? Hence my question...
[01:00] <Frijolie> i must have stumped everybody
[01:00] <margaret> why are all the repos for ubuntu neutred now? I need a nes emulator that will work with kde 4.2? cause GFCE doesn't
[01:00] <Huufarted> Roasted.  You haven't said what it does.
[01:00] <Roasted> huufarted - just like Ghost, man.
[01:00] <Huufarted> Roasted, gotcha.
[01:00] <lo0lol0ol> can anyone here help me with Flex/Lex?
[01:01] <shadowblade1> hello - im running ubuntu server 8.04 right now and i was wondering if theres a way to make output scrollable like man
[01:01] <Roasted> huufarted - It's a great tool. If you're in the neighborhood of cloning machines, I suggest you try it. But like I said, I wasn't suer what I'd have to do if I ran all Ubuntu stations instead of XP, but G4L is good to remember that it'll also do the job.
[01:01] <Flannel> shadowblade1: Which sort of output?
[01:01] <Huufarted> shadowblade1: use | more
[01:01] <Roasted> huufarted - thanks for the input, though!
[01:01] <abstrakt> infomomo, i know it should say "it works"
[01:01] <abstrakt> i checked the default /var/www/index.html and i've seen it before
[01:01] <shadowblade1> Huufarted: thanks
[01:01] <Huufarted> shadowblade1: like this  ls -l | more
[01:01] <Flannel> shadowblade1: | less is likely better than | more
[01:01] <abstrakt> infomomo, it's a dedicated server from slicehost
[01:01] <_Brun0_> What's the ~/Examples dir/link? Can I delete it?
[01:02] <Huufarted> Flannel: that works too
[01:02] <Huufarted> _Brun0_: yes.  They are examples of OOo documents.
[01:02] <infomomo> abstrakt: dedicated :S damn ! good stuff
[01:02] <abstrakt> yeh
[01:02] <Tokenekie> Hi, how can I check how much memory is available on my live USB if I am running ubuntu from the live USB drive?
[01:02] <_Brun0_> Huufarted, thanks! If I delete that link will I have any weird app behaviour?
[01:02] <abstrakt> :)
[01:02] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: You mean how much drive space?
[01:03] <abstrakt> it's really bothering me that it doesn't freakin work after a default install of apache
[01:03] <Tokenekie> Huufarted: How much "free" drive space
[01:03] <abstrakt> it doesn't even say "it works"
[01:03] <Huufarted> _Brun0_: no.  The original directory still exists, you're only deleting the link.
[01:03] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: df -h
[01:03] <margaret> join #nes
[01:03] <_Brun0_> Huufarted, thanks alot!
[01:03] <abstrakt> it should "just work" after i installed apache... i've restarted apache a bunch
[01:03] <infomomo> abstrakt: The Best Ways   	The best way: send us email.   	We also have an online chat (http://chat.slicehost.com/) room and you are invited to join us there.   	Call us: 888-82SLICE
[01:03] <infomomo> abstrakt: FTW ???
[01:04] <abstrakt> infomomo, yeah i guess i can call them... was hoping to not
[01:04] <infomomo> abstrakt: go straight to the chat room !!!!
[01:04] <oCean_> abstrakt: after apache's install, when no ServerName is set, it starts on <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:04] <Flannel> abstrakt: make sure it's readable by www-data.
[01:04] <oCean_> abstrakt: q.e.d. in /var/log/apache2/error_log
[01:05] <abstrakt> oCean_, uhh, i don't think so... i was getting that error message before... "could not determine server's fully qualified blah blah blah using 127..."
[01:05] <abstrakt> oCean_, but lately on reload that isn't happening
[01:05] <Tokenekie> Huufarted: If I created the live USB while allocating the rest of the entire memory to store system settings, would "df -h" say that my drive is full? I used the System->Administration->create a USB startup disk application to make my life USB
[01:06] <Flannel> abstrakt: That's just a warning, and you can fix that here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting Apache
[01:06] <abstrakt> so i assume it's bound to the right ip
[01:06] <abstrakt> but i could be batty
[01:06] <Huufarted> tokenekie, df -h shows ALL mounted drives, total space, free space, used space.  That's all it does.
[01:06] <abstrakt> aight, gtg, thx for the suggestions all
[01:06] <abstrakt> ttyl
[01:06] <macd> abstrakt, yeah not a big deal at all, just means your web doesnt map to a FQDN
[01:06] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: just type it and see, you'll understand.
[01:07] <Tokenekie> Yeah, but it says my 1.9g live USB drive is completely full, which I dont believe
[01:07] <Tokenekie> Unless it actually is full
[01:07] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: things like Live CDs it will display as 100% full.  But it if says 100% full, then I'd believe it.
[01:07] <eqisow> Does anybody know if you can setup LVM encryption on a volume that already has data on it? Or do you need to do it when you intially configure it?
[01:08] <macd> eqisow, not exactly possible
[01:09] <macd> eqisow, but a side question, is the volume already LVM?
[01:09] <almark1> Hello I get this error everytime I use my Hardy disto, where can I get this file, I can't find it on the disk, but I installed this disto with It only, Can't open file /usr/share/gdm/themes/64studio/64studio.xml
[01:09] <Tokenekie> Huufarted: The "df -h" says my live USB is mounted on /cdrom. I just created it so that has to mean that although it says its full, there is actually space to write files to right?
[01:09] <macd> almark1, are you using the ubuntu-studio disc?
[01:10] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: all CDs display as 100% full.
[01:10] <He-man> Good morning/evening, depending on what part of the world you are in.
[01:10] <macd> almark1, additionally #ubuntustudio would be the proper place to ask.
[01:10] <clayton> hello! I need help about glassfishv2 on ubuntu server. anyone?
[01:10] <Tokenekie> Huufarted: So in other words, there is no way to tell how much actual space I have left on my live USB.
[01:11] <He-man> Can somebody please help me set up my printer/scanner, if possible?
[01:11] <infomomo> He-man: sure
[01:11] <Huufarted> tokenekie, look at the total space and subtract it from 700 or whatever the max capacity of your CDs are.
[01:12] <natsukashi_> Which command is user to give root permissions in the Debian terminal?
[01:12] <Huufarted> natsukashi_: please rephrease that?  Not sure what you're asking
[01:12] <He-man> infomomo:  Thanks info.  I have a Lexmark X2630, and obviously, it won't recognise any drivers from windows.  I dont know how to install it.  I have WINE, and I cant find drivers with that either for it.
[01:12] <natsukashi_> Huufarted: "sudo" = ? in debian
[01:12] <Tokenekie> Okay, but there is no way to check how much space is left after I have added data to the usb drive later on unless I manually keep track of ever bit of data I put into it?
[01:12] <m0se5> natsukashi_: sudo <command>
[01:12] <eqisow> macd: yes, it's a raid1 running in LVM
[01:12] <Huufarted> natsukashi_: it's still sudo
[01:13] <natsukashi_> Ah, okay. Thanks. :)
[01:13] <Huufarted> natsukashi_: if you want to actually operate with full root permissions, you can type this:  sudo su -
[01:13] <m0se5> natsukashi_: su && apt-get install sudo
[01:13] <Flannel> natsukashi_: This is #ubuntu.  You should try #debian instead.  They'll be able to better suit your needs.
[01:14] <m0se5> natsukashi_: exactly what Flannel said.. jion #Debian
[01:14] <almark1> macd: well its not ubuntustudio, its 64studio. Would ubuntustudio help?
[01:15] <almark1> macd: Its Hardy
[01:15] <Flannel> almark1: What is 64studio?
[01:16] <almark1> Flannel: its a profession DAW with all the goodies like Ubuntu but on a pro level its Ubuntu or Debian
[01:16] <almark1> Flannel: 64studio.org or com
[01:17] <Flannel> almark1: Youre best bet is to get support from the 64studio people.  Obviously they'll know whats going wrong with the 64studio stuff.
[01:17] <almark1> Flannel: 64studio is a 64bit version of Linux for Multimedia purposes, they have 32bit and 64bit versions
[01:17] <offipso> I'm having difficulty getting GRUB to get past stage 1.5 while using a PCI SATA card
[01:17] <offipso> Can anyone help?
[01:18] <offipso> And by difficulty I mean it hangs at "loading stage 1.5" and I dont't even get a gru>
[01:18] <almark1> Flannel: thats my problem they are hardly in IRC, its a very modest disto. I'll just have to use the forum then.
[01:18] <macd> almark1, probably your best bet, searching the install disc doesnt yield that file ?
[01:19] <almark1> macd: no, I haven't a clue where it is in pool main
[01:19] <almark1> macd: I am using ubuntu so to speak its hardy
[01:19] <macd> almark1, are you familiar with the find utility?
[01:19] <almark1> macd: you mean find /yadayada | grep -i something?
[01:20] <macd> almark1, yes, does that yield results as to the files location on the disc?
[01:20] <jmacfuzzy> does anyone know of any ways to speed up NTFS-3G read speed, or at least troubleshoot the cause of extremely low read speeds? (under 100KB/sec)
[01:20] <almark1> macd: all that it gives me is ubuntu-gdm themes and gnome-themes I did a dpkg -i those files and it didn't fix this
[01:21] <m0se5> offipso: try asking in #linux as well. Best I can say is you need to load the module before grub as see your mbr... you may need to boot from a separate disk first. I'm not sure.
[01:21] <macd> almark1, sounds as if their theme is missing the file then, if its not present on the install disc packages, you might want to try a new theme, or those forums.
[01:21] <almark1> macd: My problem is I don't know what an update of my system uninstalled, I did a full update about 2 days, ago, all was fine until ..
[01:22] <macd> almark1, chances are you are not the only one experiencing that issue then
[01:22] <almark1> macd: Yes, it looks like i'm off to the forums
[01:22] <m0se5> jmacfuzzy: try hdparm
[01:22] <GuyFromHell> So i'm on jaunty but i had the same behavior on intepid: for some reason my computer randomly wakes u whenever it feels like it. relevant syslog: http://rafb.net/p/kbK97d66.html
[01:22] <almark1> macd: Its very annoying very...
[01:22] <macd> the problem with distros with small adoption rates or maintainers not always available
[01:23] <He-man> infomomo:  Sorry mate.  Same dramas.
[01:23] <almark1> macd: Yeah, this 64studio BETA! 3.0 so they said there might be some bugs but very stable
[01:23] <macd> either way, thats a very "noobish" packaging mistake
[01:23] <almark1> macd: what on my part?
[01:23] <macd> almark1, do your updates come from ubuntu maintained repositories, or 64studio repositories
[01:24] <offipso> m0se5: Thanks, I'll ask there
[01:24] <almark1> macd: Things are messed up, my Gnome themes where deleted and my Gdm 64studio is toast, and I can't find the answers on the disk weird huh
[01:24] <jmacfuzzy> m0se5: isn't that for IDE? this is for a sata raid array with a controller card -- it's visible and mounted, just reading ungodly slow and i need to copy about 580GB off of it
[01:24] <almark1> macd: Both
[01:24] <almark1> macd: For hardy
[01:24] <macd> almark1, interesting, mixxing repositories, what  great idea </sarcasm>
[01:25] <almark1> macd: Ok ok :P
[01:25] <macd> almark1, But yeah I think you hit the mark with BETA, buggy ;)
[01:25] <indro_> hi all
[01:25] <indro_> anyone has access to a shell that support sockets?
[01:25] <almark1> macd: beta but good, and so to be stable I imagine with a very other updates it should be good.
[01:25] <macd> indro_, not really the place to ask.
[01:26] <almark1> macd: I just love those days when you spend 8 plus hours trying to fix linux lol
[01:26] <macd> almark1, mmmhmmm
[01:27] <almark1> macd: Sometimes I think im dumb. But maybe I'm just happy lol
[01:27] <bob__> does anyone have an easy solution for remote desktop from windows to linux?
[01:27] <shathan> ssh?
[01:27] <m0se5> jmacfuzzy: I'm not sure. I just threw it out there. It sound's interesting though. I'd love to be the one (you) to figure it out.
[01:28] <Matson> I'm getting the big RSOD on install - at the step of "select and install software"  (Red screen of death)
[01:28] <almark1> macd: Thanks for your advice but its time I make some music c-ya :)
[01:28] <Matson> how do I peel back and see what the error is?
[01:28] <jmacfuzzy> m0se5: if i'm stating it, that'd likely be the case
[01:28] <bob__> matson, is that a server install?
[01:28] <m0se5> bob__: vnc?
[01:29] <natsukashi_> okay, I just used the "su -" command to gain root permission. How do I revert it? :)
[01:29] <macd> bob__, vnc, freenx, both offer windows clients and linux servers.
[01:29] <lstarnes> natsukashi_: exit
[01:29] <macd> natsukashi_, exit
[01:29] <Matson> bob__: yes
[01:29] <natsukashi_> :o
[01:29] <Matson> I'm going with http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.2/ubuntu-8.04.2-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[01:29] <raven1> im bak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:29] <raven1> vince here
[01:29] <bob__> m0RrE, ive been looking through some like openvnc but i cant seem to make heads or tails of it
[01:29] <raven1> peterpan
[01:30] <natsukashi_> wow, it really was that simple. Thanks. :D
[01:30] <bob__> Matson, just start over, i had that happen a few times on my server install
[01:30] <macd> bob__, you need the windows client. installing the server side on the linux box may also require some configuration.
[01:30] <Matson> ok, I'll try that
[01:30] <Matson> bob__: were things stable with a successful install after that?
[01:30] <Crazy_Spai> Was up.
[01:31] <bob__> Matson, i have my server running 24/7
[01:31] <bob__> uptime is like 5 months now
[01:31] <m0se5> natsukashi_: exit
[01:31] <Matson> any ideas on how to see what the error is ?
[01:31] <Matson> all I get is a red screen - and prompts to go back and try again
[01:32] <bob__> Matson, im not sure how to see the error but that is the same spot i had issues with
[01:32] <Matson> k
[01:32] <Matson> restarting now - checking CD for errors first
[01:33] <m0se5> bob__: a vnc server is built into KDE... K menu > system settings > Sharing
[01:33] <Tommy_Bres> anyone else having issues with ubuntu 9.04 playing mp3's?
[01:33] <bob__> m0RrE, im gnome
[01:33] <Tommy_Bres> (first of all, to clarify, i'm pretty much linux retarded)
[01:33] <Tommy_Bres> but 8.10 played my mp3 files, 9.04 gives me shit about a missing codec
[01:33] <macd> Tommy_Bres, join #ubuntu+1 please.
[01:33] <Matson> Tommy_Bres: I was told discussion for 9.04 is in Ubuntu+1
[01:33] <Crazy_Spai> Tommy_Bres, as am I. Have you tried Amarok?
[01:33] <Tommy_Bres> lol alright macd
[01:34] <bob__> Matson, did you check your md5 sums on the download?
[01:34] <Tommy_Bres> crazy_spai, i haven't, did that work for you?
[01:34] <m0se5> Tommy_Bres: take a look at http://www.medibuntu.org/
[01:34] <Matson> bob__: did not, using the integrated cd check now
[01:34] <Matson> bittorrent uses lots of sha1 hashes
[01:34] <Crazy_Spai> Tommy_Bres: Yes, I use it all the time. I have them playing off a windows server.
[01:34] <Matson> so expect that it is correct
[01:34] <Tommy_Bres> oooh ok
[01:34] <Tommy_Bres> well maybe i'll give that a look
[01:34] <thiebaude> Tommy_Bres: did you download all your codecs?
[01:34] <bob__> Matson, ah i never used bit torrent
[01:35] <Tommy_Bres> thiebaude it said codecs could not be found with the auto search
[01:35] <macd> Matson, I've had that before as well on server hardware with exotic raid cards.  On beige box hardware that problem is usually caused by a bad burn (though the cd may pass the check) burn at the slowest rate you can.
[01:35] <Tommy_Bres> and as previously stated i'm absolutely retarded when it comes to linux, i use ubuntu off of a flash drive occasionally but i'm a windoze user most of the time :X
[01:35] <Matson> macd: ok - I burned at highest rate
[01:35] <Matson> and I'm also using blank DVD stock - did not have a cd-r bank around
[01:36] <Matson> passed the CD-ROM inegrity check
[01:36] <Matson> and I *am* using different hardware - amd64 sun x2200
[01:36] <Matson> but ws says it is supported
[01:38] <macd> Matson, ubuntu doesnt like AMD, j/k
[01:38] <macd> Id try a reburn and see what happends
[01:39] <Excell> AMD+Ubuntu= marriage made in heaven.
[01:39] <shathan> no amd
[01:39] <shathan> amd=bad
[01:39] <Matson> intersting...  this time it is taking a long time to create the ext3 file system
[01:39] <Matson> might have missed that step last time
[01:39] <Matson> shathan: why?
[01:40] <Matson> shathan: is that silly trash talk - or is there a real reason not to use amd?
[01:40] <Excell> Please deposit youe Microsoft products to your nearest green box for disposal and enjoy real computing wilt Ubuntu/Linux.
[01:40] <bob__> i use amd64's and they work just fine
[01:40] <LjL> !offtopic
[01:40] <bob__> lmfao Excell
[01:41] <Matson> base system - reinstalled all ok so far
[01:41] <Matson> kernel 2.6.24-23-server ...
[01:42] <bob__> m0se5, have you set up vnc before? im curious to hear opinions on the easiest one to set up
[01:43] <Matson> bob__: when you got it to work - did you end up installing anything extra on the "*" select list  (LAMP, MAIL, Etc)?
[01:43] <Matson> selecting no extra server install items - this time it worked
[01:44] <Matson> postfix, apache, mysql, ssh - have to do those by hand I guess
[01:45] <m0se5> bob__: I have little use for vnc because I don't use Windows and ssh is fine for me. That said, I've used TightVNC in the past.
[01:45] <Matson> we have bash
[01:45] <Matson> :)
[01:45] <bob__> Matson, i usually do everything by hand
[01:45] <l337ingDisorder> Question: `grep 'aac' /proc/devices` produces an output like "253 aac"... I need to strip out the " aac" so I'm left specifically with the 253. How can I achieve that?
[01:46] <Matson> fwiw - the server install on 8.04 did not work when I selected LAMP, Mail server, and SSH
[01:46] <Matson> when I redid it, selected nothing, it worked
[01:46] <m0se5> l337ingDisorder: ask in #linux or look into awk
[01:46] <bob__> ty btw m0se5
[01:46] <Matson> does "server" install X11 and {KDE/Gnome} ?
[01:47] <thiebaude> !x11
[01:47] <dwidmann> Okay, I have a question. From a default Ubuntu(w/gnome) install, how much does apt-get say it needs to get to install the python-kde4 package (I'm curious)
[01:47] <l337ingDisorder> m0se5: thanks
[01:48] <m0se5> bob__: your welcome... you may find firestarter a nice gui for your linux firewall (IPtables)
[01:48] <m0se5> Matson: no... but afterwards apt-get install ubuntu-desktop willl
[01:49] <Matson> k
[01:49] <dublisk> Hi, I downloaded ubuntu 64 bit version, and it says ubuntu AMD_64, is there not an IA_64 version as well?
[01:49] <fin-syn> is here a way to do FDE on 9.04?
[01:49] <bob__> m0RrE, shouldnt he use aptitude vs apt-get?
[01:49] <jamieleshaw> Hello, I Have A PArtition And With Windows Vista On One And Ubuntu On The Other IS There A Way I CAn Set Ubuntu To Bood By Default
[01:50] <m0se5> dublisk: AMD is for x86 processors... I'm not really sure what your asking
[01:50] <Pricey> dublisk: tit is the same
[01:50] <grendal_prime> grrrr...is there a way to search through email subjects in thunderbird?
[01:50] <dublisk> m0se5: IA_64 is intels competing 64 bit archetecture I thought
[01:51] <jamieleshaw> Hello, I Have A PArtition And With Windows Vista On One And Ubuntu On The Other IS There A Way I CAn Set Ubuntu To Bood By DefaultHello, I Have A PArtition And With Windows Vista On One And Ubuntu On The Other IS There A Way I CAn Set Ubuntu To Bood By Default
[01:51] <Pupuser402-1> !repeat | jamieleshaw
[01:51] <Pricey> dublisk: "Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead."
[01:51] <Pricey> dublisk: from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[01:51] <m0se5> dublisk: oh.. ok, they arcitector types used for the linux kernel isn't exact to the brand, just the type.. AMD and Intel make x86... short answer.. you have the right one.
[01:52] <dublisk> ok
[01:52] <Matson> is there a post-install set of things I should look at once I do the "server" 8.04 install?
[01:52] <HacUrMac> I am having an issue with sites (including Sun) not detecting java and giving me this error : "Somewhere along the way to your destination, the address (location) you were trying to get to was garbled."
[01:52] <bob__> l337ingDisorder, try using a pipe from grep to awk maybe?
[01:53] <dfcnvt>  apt-cache show python-kde4
[01:53] <dfcnvt> look up for size
[01:53] <dfcnvt>  apt-cache show python-kde4 | grep Size
[01:54] <Pupuser402-1> !pm | jamieleshaw
[01:54] <m0se5> Matson: I'm not sure what you mean... what's the "server" going to do?
[01:54] <milkncat> good evening all
[01:54] <HacUrMac> hello
[01:54] <jamieleshaw> Hello, I Have A Partition And With Windows Vista On One And Ubuntu On The Other Is There A Way I Can Set Ubuntu To Boot By Default?
[01:56] <nado> jamieleshaw, are you using grub ?
[01:56] <fin-syn> is here a way to do FDE on 9.04?
[01:56] <jamieleshaw> To Boot Ubuntu I HAve To Put Ubuntu CD In And Select Boot From First Hardisk.
[01:56] <jamieleshaw> Yes.
[01:56] <Matson> m0se5: I was referring more to security / sources / etc
[01:56] <Drew_CPHQ> Hey guys. So I just installed pure-ftpd, how come when I try logging on in my ftp client I get authentication failed?
[01:57] <l337ingDisorder> bob__: actually I just found a nice solution that bypasses grep altogether. awk '/aac/ {print $1}'
[01:57] <Matson> get the lastest security updates for installed packages, for example
[01:58] <nado> jamieleshaw, if you have to put in the CD chances are grub is not installed
[01:58] <bob__> l337ingDisorder, awesome, glad you got it resolved, i didnt mess with awk to much, but i remember it from a backflip i was doing with my log files
[01:58] <Matson> intersting - 12 packages needed upgrading
[01:58] <jamieleshaw> But GRUB IS On The CD.
[01:58] <Matson> including the kernel
[01:58] <jamieleshaw> So How DO I Put GRUB AS MAin Boot System?
[01:59] <dfcnvt> apt-get install grub
[01:59] <dfcnvt> then follow as setup
[01:59] <dfcnvt> from on your ubuntu system.. You should be able to set the boot as your preferred default with no problem..
[02:00] <Matson> is there an easy way to load test a new machine and get performace specs?
[02:00] <bob__> grub should be installed by default though
[02:00] <nado> jamieleshaw, check grub-install
[02:01] <slerder> hey guys should i be able to boot from a usb device connected to a PCI usb card on my gigabyte ep45-ud3r motherboard?
[02:01] <jamieleshaw> nado: the terminal says command not found.
[02:01] <andresmh> Is there a way to tell USB Statup Disk Creator to complete delete everything inside the thumbdrive and then copy the ISO file into it?
[02:01] <nado> jamieleshaw, then do : sudo apt-get install grub
[02:01] <josh-l> hi, is there anything bad about setting up/ using prelink?
[02:02] <jamieleshaw> nado: In progress.
[02:03] <jamieleshaw> nado: It says grub is already the newest.
[02:03] <m0se5> Matson: apt keeps your system up to date... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:03] <slerder> hey guys should i be able to boot from a usb device connected to a PCI usb card on my gigabyte ep45-ud3r motherboard?
[02:03] <chronic1> Is there a specific channel for questions about the beta?
[02:03] <vader> Anybody know a program (preferably console based) that will track cumulative bandwidth stats? I want to track Gb in and out over week/month/year.
[02:03] <nado> chronic1, #ubuntu+1 i believe
[02:03] <bob__> alrighty everyone, im out
[02:03] <bob__> thanks for the info
[02:04] <Matson> m0se5: thanks
[02:04] <kitchenrange> is there any way i can change my default torrent application on the newest ubuntu
[02:04] <nado> kitchenrange, do you have an application in mind ?
[02:05] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, right click on a torrent file and choose properties then go to the "open with" tab
[02:05] <andresmh> once I have Ubuntu running on a USB thumbdrive with persistency. If I double click on the "Install" icon on the desktop. Will it install Ubuntu with all the apps that are in the USB version or will it install the default one?
[02:05] <m0se5> slerder: depends how the boot order is set in the system bios
[02:05] <nado> jamieleshaw, can you try : sudo grub-install
[02:06] <Guest57861> andresmh - it install just like the Live CD version
[02:06] <yurledi> ola
[02:06] <Lego_Dan> Um how do i get back to my BSD install cuz this ain't working for me
[02:06] <newuser> hi, when a phone call comes in the internet disconnects.  Wired connections restore in a few seconds but wireless requires a reset of wireless router...is this an isp issue or something wrong with my router??
[02:07] <kitchenrange> hey Hammerjak ive done that, but for some reason, when i open the torrents with any other client, they will not download
[02:07] <Lego_Dan> i don't see any options for my second partition
[02:07] <jamieleshaw> nado: it says as follows: Usage: grub-install [OPTION] install_device Install GRUB on your drive.    -h, --help              print this message and exit   -v, --version           print the version information and exit   --root-directory=DIR    install GRUB images under the directory DIR                           instead of the root directory   --grub-shell=FILE       use FILE as the grub...
[02:07] <slerder> m0se5, im setting it to boot from usb-cdrom, i have an lg usb dvd drive and it simply will not boot from it, it just boots from an hdd even though i disabled booting from hdds..
[02:07] <jamieleshaw> ...shell   --no-floppy             do not probe any floppy drive   --force-lba             force GRUB to use LBA mode even for a buggy                           BIOS   --recheck               probe a device map even if it already exists  INSTALL_DEVICE can be a GRUB device name or a system device filename.  grub-install copies GRUB images into the DIR/boot directory specfied by --root-directory, a
[02:07] <jamieleshaw> nd uses the grub shell to install grub into the boot sector.  Report bugs to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>grub-install [OPTION] install_device Install GRUB on your drive.    -h, --help              print this message and exit   -v, --version           print the version information and exit   --root-directory=DIR    install GRUB images under the directory DIR                           instead of...
[02:07] <jamieleshaw> ...the root directory   --grub-shell=FILE       use FILE as the grub shell   --no-floppy             do not probe any floppy drive   --force-lba             force GRUB to use LBA mode even for a buggy                           BIOS   --recheck               probe a device map even if it already exists  INSTALL_DEVICE can be a GRUB device name or a system device filename.  grub-install copies...
[02:07] <FloodBot2> jamieleshaw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <m0se5> andresmh: the default one I would assume.
[02:07] <Pupuser402-1>  lol
[02:07] <andresmh> m0se5, so all the apps I had installed on the thumbdrive will be "gone"?
[02:08] <kitchenrange>  hey Hammerjak ive done that, but for some reason, when i open the torrents with any other client, they will not download
[02:08] <m0se5> slerder: tap F12 at POST... see if your boot option is there
[02:08] <andresmh> how do you format a USB thumbdrive?
[02:08] <ASrock> I am trying to mount an external hard drive that was not properly ejected from a windows xp computer, what command do i use to mount it?
[02:08] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, so it opens in the correct application but then doesn't download?
[02:08] <kitchenrange> exactly Hammerjak
[02:09] <slerder> m0se5, yeah i tap F12 and select usb-cdrom... i cant see the specific name of it though..
[02:09] <kitchenrange> im not sure if it has anything to do with it being a private torrent site or not
[02:09] <ASrock> andresmh: gparted is a good partitioning tool with a gui
[02:09] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, which application is it not working with?
[02:09] <Lego_Dan> how do i get to a boot menu so i can boot bsd... ubuntu i can't get working
[02:09] <m0se5> andresmh: Are you Installing Ubuntu from a USB drive to the same USB drive?
[02:09] <kitchenrange> ive tried a few...
[02:09] <kitchenrange> ktorrent
[02:09] <kitchenrange> and vuze
[02:09] <matt____> Is there much I can do about this when trying to mount my data ext3 disk? http://pastebin.com/m8ee4510
[02:09] <Hammerjak> are there any applications that work?
[02:09] <kitchenrange> cant find the executable file for bittorrent though
[02:10] <kitchenrange> the files download with the default client.  But the client is listed on the site as one not to use, because it has problems reporting the downloads and uploads
[02:10] <kitchenrange> so i dont get credit for my seeding
[02:10] <Hammerjak> ah
[02:10] <andresmh> m0se5, I installed the ubuntu livecd onto a thumbdrive with persistency. At some point I want to install it on my hard drive and I would like to keep all the apps I have installed.
[02:10] <m0se5> slerder: hmm... Then, I wonder if the cd your using is bootable.
[02:11] <dublisk> how do I add the kernel source for ubuntu
[02:11] <dublisk> I need to compile network drivers
[02:11] <Hammerjak> well, if it works in one application but not another then it must not be configured correctly
[02:11] <Hammerjak> maybe wrong ports
[02:11] <m0se5> dublisk: sudo apt-get linux-source
[02:11] <Lego_Dan> ... is there anyway to fix grub so i can boot bsd again....
[02:11] <m0se5> dublisk: oops... sudo apt-get install linux-source
[02:11] <bluenzo> super grub disk worked for me ;x
[02:11] <dublisk> will that get it from the dvd?
[02:12] <slerder> m0se5, yes , it is.. ive tried several bootable cds, super grub disk, ubuntu live cd, windows install cd,.. acronis..etc
[02:12] <dublisk> says couldn't find package linux-source
[02:12] <matt____> Is there much I can do about this when trying to mount my data ext3 disk? http://pastebin.com/m8ee4510
[02:13] <m0se5> andresmh: Sorry about that.. I didn't know what persistency was... it's a live cd creator right? I'd follow that guild
[02:14] <kitchenrange> Hammerjak : ive tried randomizing the ports (a feature of ktorrent) but that didnt help.  Where would i look for the executable file for Bittorrent?
[02:14] <Lego_Dan> someone please.  I still can't get kubuntu to boot and would just like some help getting back to bsd.. i know i installed kubuntu over my xp partition.. so how to i get back to my bsd partition
[02:14] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, 'which bittorrent' ?
[02:14] <He-man> Good day people.  If I have a zip file on my desktop and I want it opened and installed, what commands do I enter into the terminal?  I think I am missing something.  I typed "sudo install bla bla bla"
[02:14] <^paradox^> i need a little help syncing my palm z22 with palm os devices
[02:14] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, from a terminal
[02:14] <m0se5> slerder: wow... I'm not sure then... ummm bios... usb latency maybe. I'm not sure.
[02:14] <^paradox^> cant get it to find my palm
[02:15] <He-man> Well, actually, I didnt type bla bla bla as such, just the other info.lol
[02:15] <m0se5> He-man: awesome name
[02:15] <kitchenrange> Hammerjak: mind if we talk through private messages?
[02:15] <He-man> m0se5:  Thanks mate.
[02:15] <durt> He-man, you can't find this application in the repos?
[02:15] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange,  sure, but i'm not sure how much i'll be able to help
[02:15] <He-man> durt:  I downloaded it from the Lexmark site, and I have it there, but I dont know where else it would be
[02:16] <dublisk> I dont see kernel source anywhere in the package manager wtf
[02:16] <kitchenrange> oh ok, well thanks for trying...  would all installed program executables be in /usr/bin?
[02:16] <durt> He-man, what is it exactly.
[02:16] <He-man> It is a linux driver, namely "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.rpm.sh.zip"
[02:17] <He-man> durt:  Sorry, that was meant for you mate.
[02:17] <opera> who can test ekiga with me ?
[02:17] <^paradox^> anyone need some help with the palm thing?
[02:17] <m0se5> dublisk: apt-get install linux-source linux-headers  ...second time I said it.
[02:17] <durt> He-man, ubuntu uses .debs not .rpms rpms are for redhat based distros. try and find a .deb version
[02:18] <eolo999> hi i'm trying to compile new 2.6.29 kernel but i cannot find the option to activate my wireless card which is an  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG... if i search for 'iwlwifi' which is the driver i need i find that the option should be in drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi... but i cannot find it!
[02:18] <opera> i come from china, and will test ekiga with someone else
[02:18] <eolo999> where am i wrong
[02:18] <He-man> durt:  Ah, thanks mate.  Yes, they have a deb version.  I'll download that.
[02:19] <durt> He-man, gdebi is the app that manually installs .debs
[02:19] <dublisk> m0se5: couldn't find package linux-source ...second time I said it.
[02:19] <josh-l> can anyone please tell me how to remove prelink, with all its settings?
[02:19] <He-man> durt:  Okay.  Does that mean I open gdebi?  Or do I type that command in the terminal?
[02:20] <m0se5> He-man: you need something like this;  unzip "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.rpm.sh.zip && sudo apt-get install alien && alien lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.rpm && sudo dpkg -i lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb
[02:20] <LakesProse_> I'm not getting this. I can ssh on LAN quite well. Router forwards a set port to ssh server. Yet "Connection timed out ". What is up?!
[02:20] <durt> He-man, I think gdebi has a gui frontend
[02:21] <He-man> m0se5:  What will that allow me to do?  Does it install both?
[02:21] <nado> He-man, if they have a deb version use that
[02:21] <durt> He-man, probably just double click on the .deb and put your password in
[02:21] <m0se5> dublisk: lol Did you do this command? "sudo apt-get install linux-source ...second time I said it."   cause that's funny... Don't execute every command you see... there's a popular one that will render your systen unusable... goes something like this rm -rf /bla
[02:21] <^paradox^> need some help synching my palm z22 can anyone assist?
[02:21] <He-man> durt:  I will, and thanks.
[02:22] <dublisk> m0se5: no, I was making a wise crack
[02:22] <durt> m0se5, he sid there's a .deb available
[02:22] <dublisk> I'm not that supid
[02:22] <dublisk> stupid
[02:22] <durt> said even
[02:22] <jamieleshaw> nado: I'm back.
[02:22] <fin-syn> is here a way to do FDE on 9.04?
[02:22] <nado> jamieleshaw, cool, did it work ?
[02:23] <He-man> nado:  Thanks mate.
[02:23] <durt> fin-syn, FDE?
[02:23] <jamieleshaw> nado: No, just went into windows again.
[02:23] <He-man> I appreciate all of your help ladies and gentlemen.  I will inform you if it is successful.
[02:23] <nado> arf damn windows :)
[02:23] <upgrdman> when i click on a different desktop in the workspace switched applet nothing happens... is this a known issue?
[02:24] <nado> jamieleshaw, let's talk in private see if we can solve your problem
[02:24] <scunizi> upgrdman: if you don't have anything open on the desktop it's hard to tell that anything happened..
[02:24] <raven10> any tried runnung ubuntu in USB with their BIOS doesnt support USB BOOTIng?
[02:24] <upgrdman> in previous installs when i click on an empty desktop it will give me an empty desktop ...
[02:25] <raven10> any tried runnung ubuntu in USB with their BIOS doesnt support USB BOOTing?
[02:25] <upgrdman> and i could drag windows from one desktop to another ... in the applet. but i cant now
[02:25] <shadowblade> hello - I'm trying to set up a router using ubuntu 8.04 server edition and I'm having problems configuring my network cards. At the moment I've got a temporary one working in the machine so I can use apt-get, wget, etc. My two wired cards are realtek 8139C cards. During boot, there's  a message saying the cards are not compatible with the 8139cp driver, and I should try the 8139too drivers. I've tried removing the 8139cp mod
[02:27] <^paradox^> i need some assistance synching my palm z22 never done this
[02:27] <raven10> WHO TRIED USING GPARTED AND DID NOT LOSE ANY FILES OR MESSED UP HIS/HER FILES?;-)
[02:27] <raven10> HEY PARADOX
[02:27] <^paradox^> hi
[02:27] <upgrdman> no caps lock please
[02:27] <durt> !caps | raven10
[02:27] <Pupuser402-1> !caps
[02:27] <raven10> sorry
[02:27] <raven10> did u install the phone tool for your palm
[02:28] <^paradox^> phone tool?
[02:28] <raven10> u said u want to sync your palm right
[02:28] <raven10> get get right thing
[02:28] <raven10> the get right...
[02:28] <^paradox^> was using gmon pilot
[02:28] <^paradox^> gnome pilot
[02:28] <meanburrito920_> does anyone have a suggestion for a good VM to run in Ubuntu?
[02:29] <upgrdman> meanburrito920_: i like vmware
[02:29] <Pupuser402-1> define "good"
[02:29] <meanburrito920_> upgrdman: but isnt vmware $$
[02:29] <raven10> hmm..try plugging the cable to your pc to the phone
[02:29] <upgrdman> and current vmware has directx support
[02:29] <raven10> open hotsync
[02:29] <meanburrito920_> Pupuser402-1:  does it work :)
[02:29] <^paradox^> its not a phone, only a palm
[02:29] <Pupuser402-1> both vmware and virtualbox work in ubuntu meanburrito920_
[02:29] <upgrdman> meanburrito920_: the viewer is free, and if you google around you can make your own VMX/VMDK files ... but yes, workstation is $200
[02:29] <joejc> anyone here use projectm?
[02:29] <raven10> same
[02:29] <^paradox^> palm z22
[02:30] <upgrdman> anyone use the gnome workspace switcher? mine wont switch ;(
[02:30] <^paradox^> its already plugged in
[02:30] <^paradox^> now to get it synched
[02:30] <raven10> then any button on the cable?
[02:31] <^paradox^> no its just a usb cable
[02:31] <shadowblade> anyone?
[02:31] <raven10> coz palm z22 has a button on the cable
[02:31] <raven10> when plugged..open the sync manager then press the button
[02:32] <dublisk> should linux-source show up in the software manager?
[02:32] <m0se5> dublisk: yes. lol and I'm all about the wise cracks... It's kinda nice to be here again. I've been gone a few years now.
[02:33] <raven10> anyone tried booting ubuntu in USB?
[02:33] <dublisk> ok
[02:33] <dublisk> its not friggin there
[02:33] <dublisk> 5 minutes into ubuntu and I'm already concluding it sucks
[02:33] <taz> im wondring how can i can back to normal to 8.10  .. yesteday download 9.04  it alot of bugs.. so how can uninstall with 9.04 ???
[02:33] <raven10> why dublish
[02:33] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: livecd or installed system?
[02:33] <raven10> uhm..installed system
[02:33] <dublisk> I want to install the kernel source, headers etc
[02:33] <Stupendo1ssteve> taz: Reinstall 8.10 ;)
[02:33] <dublisk> nowhere to be found
[02:33] <raven10> livecd to usb
[02:34] <raven10> through create usb startup system
[02:34] <raven10> create usb startup disk
[02:34] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: It is possible, but getting the boot loader to always work may be iffy
[02:34] <shadowblade> taz: there isnt an uninstaller for major upgrades, you have to go back to 8.10 by reinstalling it
[02:34] <taz> stupendolssteve:  how ?? it ready termanial
[02:34] <raven10> coz my BIOS doesnt support USB booting
[02:34] <raven10> and i need help
[02:34] <taz> really
[02:35] <m0se5> dublisk: honestly... sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-headers
[02:35] <bonez46> how can I compare two files.. two .py config file.. side by side? does vim have anything to do that?
[02:35] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: You want to install a system onto the usb?
[02:35] <raven10> yeah...Ubuntu 8.10 to USB
[02:35] <dublisk> m0se5: I don't understand whats complicated about what I said
[02:35] <dublisk> It doesn't findit
[02:35] <taz> How ?? sound like formanted ??
[02:35] <nacsot> is anybody running ubuntu on a parallels?
[02:35] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: yeah..Ubuntu 8.10 to USB via live CD
[02:35] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: You'll have to install the bootloader to a hard disk, or install it to a floppy
[02:35] <dublisk> "E: Couldn't find package linux-source"
[02:36] <raven10> uhm...where can i get any bootloader?
[02:36] <taz> shadoblade: do formated ?
[02:36] <raven10> stupendo: are u aware that my BIOS doesnt support USB booting?
[02:36] <m0se5> dublisk: me either.. so direct and precisely about one thing too.
[02:36] <Dreamglider> any vbe editor for ubuntu ?
[02:36] <TwoToneSpirit> I have a few security questions about SSH and such.  1) When SSH asks me if I trust the public key, how am I to know whether it is legit?  2) Is logging into my home computer via SSH with my regular account (which uses the root password) a good idea?  3) Are there any major outstanding issues with the default configuration of SSH?
[02:36] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yes you said that, which is why you have to install the bootloader to a hard drive or floppy
[02:37] <raven10> or make an ISO image to a CD
[02:37] <shadowblade> anyone have any input?
[02:37] <dublisk> m0se5: Do you think I'm just making it up that that apt-get is not finding linux-sources?
[02:37] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Boot from the livecd, install the system on the usb, there is an option somewhere for Advanced which is where you set up the bootloader path
[02:37] <raven10> run it simulaneously with the USB
[02:37] <m0se5> dublisk: A seemingly stupid question but are you pasting that command into a terminal?
[02:37] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yes, or make an iso with the bootloader on it
[02:37] <dublisk> linux-source
[02:37] <dublisk> yes
[02:37] <nacsot> hello
[02:37] <raven10> bootloader path?hmm...where can i exactly locate it
[02:37] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: Here's my take on it - others may say otherwise
[02:38] <LakesProse_> if a folder is 777 and inside the folder is a file 700 owned by user1. User2 can't delete the folder because of the remaining file, can he ?
[02:38] <m0se5> dublisk: I'm not thinking anything about it. I just answered a question.
[02:38] <dublisk> "Reading package lists... Done; Building dependency tree ; Reading state information... Done ; E : Couldn't find package linux-source "
[02:38] <m0se5> dublisk: +1 internetz to me
[02:38] <dreamy> where does the tftp client (from the lan card) goes searching for a file ? and what file ?  ( i think this is too a ubuntu question )
[02:38] <raven10> stupendo1ssteve?
[02:38] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: 1) Getting that trust message once (per unique PC) is OK, but if get it again later on for a host you've connected to before, that is cause for concern. There is no really good way to verify this key.
[02:38] <nacsot> how does one transfer data from hard drive to a virtual machine when using ubuntu?
[02:38] <taz> anyway i will not reinstall back 8.10  anyway will work on 9.04 anyway
[02:39] <taz> anyone know about 9.10 ?
[02:39] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: 2) There is no "root." There are only accounts with root privileges. There is no reason to worry about logging in via SSH with such accounts
[02:39] <taz> opps 9.04
[02:39] <raven10> when a new update comes out..never update to that right away...coz it contains bugs for sure
[02:39] <shadowblade> nascot: are you using vmware?
[02:39] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: It is an option in the installer, it says where it plans on installing the bootloader, you will have to point it at something else
[02:39] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Or use something like super grub disk
[02:40] <nacsot> umm im not sure, im on a mac using parallels
[02:40] <raven10> is super grub disk safe?
[02:40] <raven10> will it harm my windows xp?
[02:40] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: 3) No, but by default *anybody* (in the world if on a public IP) can connect to your box via SSH and try to login.   I think I understand.  But, the password that I use to login normally is also the root password, as per the default configuration.  Is this smart?  It seems like I'd be safer using a different one.
[02:41] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: I have used it without an issue, but ymmv
[02:41] <taz> update manger  for your system is up to date...i saw it said brasero ... i cant mark. it bit dark.. seem stick with it
[02:41] <raven10> ymmv?
[02:41] <nacsot> yes i am but the question isnt about the mac its about ubuntu
[02:41] <TwoToneSpirit> cpudan80: Is it better to just copy the key from my desktop and require that key?
[02:41] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: There is no "root" -- there is no root password
[02:42] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Your Mileage May Vary
[02:42] <raven10> so stupendo1ssteve...are u busy..can u help me
[02:42] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: Your regular user account just has permissions do do things as root (ie. sudo ....)
[02:42] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: Theres no reason to worry about logging in with such accounts
[02:42] <raven10> stupendo1ssteve
[02:42] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: what about this key business ?
[02:42] <raven10> do u have any email?
[02:43] <Stupendo1ssteve> I don't generally share it
[02:43] <raven10> aw
[02:43] <raven10> T_T
[02:43] <raven10> coz i really need help
[02:43] <raven10> so just give me advices
[02:43] <TwoToneSpirit> cpudan80:  Well, instead of trusting the public key, can't I just copy it from home and then only allow connections with that key?  I really don't fully grasp the public key concept.  I've read about it, but I don't really understand what I'm being asked when I connect.
[02:43] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: If you install Ubuntu the normal way on the usb disk, you can use super grub disk to boot Ubuntu when the cd is in the drive
[02:44] <nacsot> shadowblade?
[02:44] <m0se5> nacsot: Most use Windows networking (or Samba in the Linux world)... What software are you using? Virtualbox?
[02:44] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: I dont know if you can limit SSH via the key. I dont think you can
[02:44] <shadowblade> nascot: the problem would be with your vm software then (parallels) - there are a lot of odd workarounds vm software makers have to use for sharing data between the host and vm. for example, when running an ubuntu host with vmware and a windows vm, it treats the host drive as a network drive
[02:44] <nacsot> i am on a mac usuing parallels to run ubuntu
[02:44] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: so i plug in my USB, and what?
[02:44] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: there are two keys - a public one and a private one - restricting based on the public key is silly, as anyone can obtain your public key
[02:44] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: You plug in your usb, you boot an ubuntu live cd, you hit install and choose to install on the usb drive instead of the hard drive
[02:44] <abstrakt> where how do i check iptables?
[02:45] <abstrakt> to be sure that port 80 is open?
[02:45] <Cpudan80> restricting based on private key wont work - because the server wont know what the private key is ...
[02:45] <nacsot> so i need to give ubuntu access to my network?
[02:45] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: sudo iptables -L
[02:45] <shadowblade> nascot: your software may have a similar function
[02:45] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: im done installing Ubuntu to my USB..now..how to boot it ?
[02:45] <nacsot> but its gonna be parallels not ubuntu?
[02:45] <shadowblade> nascot: correct
[02:45] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: how to boot if my BIOS doesnt support USB Booting
[02:45] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: burn a super grub disk cd, and read http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Howto_Boot_Linux_only
[02:46] <nacsot> alright ill give that a try thanks for the help
[02:46] <shadowblade> nascot: np, good luck
[02:46] <nacsot> thanks
[02:47] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: uhm..so rate the difficulty of this procedure..be kind */5?
[02:47] <abstrakt> ok iptables -L says policy ACCEPT for all the things it lists
[02:47] <shadowblade>  I'm trying to set up a router using ubuntu 8.04 server edition and I'm having problems configuring my network cards. At the moment I've got a temporary one working in the machine so I can use apt-get, wget, etc. My two wired cards are realtek 8139C cards. During boot, there's  a message saying the cards are not compatible with the 8139cp driver, and I should try the 8139too drivers. I've tried removing the 8139cp module, th
[02:47] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: then you have no firewall
[02:48] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Not hard. Burning the cd then to boot. At the option choose what language you want, then choose GNU/Linux and "Boot GNU/Linux"
[02:48] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yeah i didn't think so
[02:48] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: let me summarize: Install Ubuntu to USB, burn Super Grub Disk to CD, insert both to their respective places and reboot...
[02:48] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: then port 80 is open
[02:48] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yeah thought so
[02:48] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: many ISPs block inbound traffic to port 80
[02:48] <dr_dasos> is there a way to add black bars to cover up information in a PDF file using document viewer and then to print a new pdf with the obscured info?
[02:48] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, this freakin server doesn't freakin work!
[02:48] <abstrakt> blahhh!
[02:48] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yep, and then choose to boot Linux. Do not choose to fix Grub
[02:48] <Cpudan80> In fact - if your ISP (residential) is worth a damn, they'll block port 80 abstrakt
[02:49] <Cpudan80> They should also be blocking 25 too
[02:49] <Cpudan80> (sendmail)
[02:49] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: after choosing language, choose GNU/Linux
[02:49] <Cpudan80> err smtp
[02:49] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, i'm quite well aware of that this isn't a residential server
[02:49] <ret> Anyone here mind helping me with a sound issue?
[02:49] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, or connection, it's a dedicated from slicehost
[02:49] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: oh ... well that's a different story
[02:49] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yes, and then there is an option for Boot Linux, or something like that
[02:50] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: Is it Boot GNU/Linux or GNU/Linux Directly
[02:50] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: so even if you go to http://yourIPHere - it fails?
[02:50] <abstrakt> that's why i'm pissed
[02:50] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, completely correct
[02:50] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: and you're using a LAMP I assume?
[02:50] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Just GNU/Linux, you're going to point it at the grub that ubuntu installed on the usb drive
[02:50] <Cpudan80> (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP)
[02:50] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yup, Ubuntu 8.04 Apache 2.2
[02:50] <BePhantom> does anyone know how to fix this nohz local_softirq_pending 100 error? i get it everytime i want to wake my system after suspend it
[02:50] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: and is Apache running?
[02:50] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yes
[02:50] <abstrakt> apache is running
[02:50] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: After that..if all goes okay, it will boot to Ubuntu already?
[02:50] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: It should
[02:51] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ok ... if you do telnet localhost 80 from your SSH to the box, what happens?
[02:51] <abstrakt> i've run /etc/init.d/apache reload i don't know how many times now
[02:51] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, lemme find out
[02:51] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: or from your terminal or whatever
[02:51] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: uhm..is this 100% safe?it wont screw up my old windows xp os?
[02:51] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Booting it yes, if you tell it to fix the mbr or any of that then maybe not
[02:52] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: If you do mess up windows, Super Grub Disk can fix it
[02:52] <Cpudan80> raven10: if you mess up the windows MBR real bad, you can always pop in an XP CD and restore it
[02:52] <Cpudan80> its not the end of the world
[02:52] <Stupendo1ssteve> Or that ^
[02:52] <raven10> oh..so..u said u've tried this one..so your BIOS doesnt support USB booting/
[02:53] <Cpudan80> most dont
[02:53] <Stupendo1ssteve> Mine does, but I have used it to boot on some odd setups
[02:53] <Cpudan80> that arent very new anyway
[02:53] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: oh ok..uhm..i cant seem to find the right link to download super grub disk
[02:53] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, well when i use PuTTY to Telnet to port 80 on the host, i get a completely black/blank screen and then a dialog box saying "Connection closed by remote host"
[02:53] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: One sec..,.
[02:53] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: then it worked
[02:53] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: pm me
[02:53] <PhotoJim> abstrakt: that tells you your apache is working.  otherwise the connection would have been refused.
[02:53] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: i will burn it in a CD..ok/
[02:54] <Cpudan80> or well you dont have to pm me I guess
[02:54] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/index.php?pid=5
[02:54] <Stupendo1ssteve> You can use a floppy instead if you have one
[02:54] <m0se5> Cpudan80: good.. cause I'm listening
[02:54] <Stupendo1ssteve> it's really a tiny file
[02:54] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: so basically, apache gave you a tunnel long enough to send some formed HTML requests, you didnt send it after the default timeout of a few seconds, so it killed your pipe
[02:54] <Cpudan80> It did exactly what it was supposed to do
[02:55] <Cpudan80> m0se5: ?
[02:55] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: uhm..ok then...is it an ISO file?
[02:55] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: The one at the link I sent you is an iso, that is made for cd
[02:55] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: If you wanted to use floppy the link is on the right of the page
[02:56] <raven10> oh ok..thank you so much sir!
[02:56] <raven10> il be back in an hour..got to do some chores
[02:56] <bonez46> Curious ... how young are some of the users here? I have a son 13.. who wants to learn... and I'll like to have him come here to get help at times...
[02:56] <Stupendo1ssteve> Good luck :)
[02:56] <raven10> will u be here?
[02:56] <m0se5> Cpudan80: If you went pm, we all can't benefit from the story :P
[02:56] <raven10> up to how many hours?
[02:56] <PhotoJim> bonez46: I'm well past 13, but 13's not too young.  we'll be gentle.
[02:56] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Maybe, I don't know how late I'll be here
[02:57] <raven10> ok then..gtg steve..thank you!
[02:57] <akgraner> bonez46: my daughter is 13 and my son is 11 and they are learning...I haven't sent them in here yet..but they are aware of the channels...
[02:57] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: OK so
[02:57] <ASrock> what terminal command should i use to mount a ntfs partition
[02:57] <bonez46> PhotoJim: this boy, my son.... keeps bugging me to install win xp pro.. but I want him to get his feet wet with linux and ubuntu.. and fall inlove with this instead..
[02:57] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: when I do telnet [yourIP] 80 - I get connection refused
[02:58] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yeah i got that too
[02:58] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: that tells me that your apache is not accepting connections from outside IPs
[02:58] <PhotoJim> bonez46: I have a bias but I think Linux is more fun if he actually wants to learn how to *use* a computer.
[02:58] <bonez46> akgraner: it's tough when they get games and stuff from the video store or library, which require windows to play
[02:58] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: but telnet localhost 80 --- that worked?
[02:58] <scunizi> bonez46: he's probably trying to get you to the first step of a gaming machine :)... introduce him to linux games..
[02:58] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, no
[02:58] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: you just said it did ...
[02:58] <abstrakt> uh no
[02:59] <abstrakt> i can scroll up and find exactly what i said
[02:59] <abstrakt> or i can say it again...
[02:59] <Cpudan80> Cpudan80, well when i use PuTTY to Telnet to port 80 on the host, i get a completely black/blank screen and then a dialog box saying "Connection closed by remote host"
[02:59] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ^ That mean it worked
[02:59] <bonez46> scunizi: does that mean I need to build a new machine.. and stuff it with an expensive video card.. and such, so that it will cook and perform well?
[02:59] <Cpudan80> Connection refused means it failed
[02:59] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, right, well i get two dialog boxes sorry
[02:59] <abstrakt> the second one says connection refused
[02:59] <abstrakt> the first one says closed by remote host
[02:59] <Cpudan80> how are you using putty on linux ?
[03:00] <scunizi> bonez46: only if you're going to put windows on it.. the latest games for that platform eat as much resources as Vista
[03:00] <coreyman> where are wine files kept, and where are firefox files kept.
[03:00] <Cpudan80> oh I guess it has a unix binary
[03:00] <akgraner> bonez46: we haven't ever really used the computers for gaming...so I can't speak to that..and since we have had kids they only used Windows at school other than that it's been a Mac...or my husband's Linux machines...
[03:00] <shadowblade> anyone?
[03:00] <scunizi> bonez46: linux games will probably work fine on what you have now.
[03:00] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: at your terminal for your server - type telnet localhost 80 at the prompt - see what happens
[03:00] <bonez46> scunizi: that's my point.. I don't want them getting used to having to have a really fast. processor.. the latest.. ever on the treadmill, of upgrading and such
[03:00] <durt> coreyman, if your talking about per user files they're hidden in your own dir.
[03:01] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, k
[03:01] <abstrakt> one sec
[03:01] <coreyman> durt thx
[03:01] <scunizi> bonez46: I agree with you.. it's a never ending cycle.
[03:01] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, blah, telnet command not found... is that easily remedied with apt-get install telnet
[03:01] <abstrakt> ?
[03:01] <Cpudan80> yeah
[03:01] <mupa> hello, i just bult a new htpc. the mobo has hdmi out and using a nvidia 8200 integrated. i have the nvidia driver installed and working, but I want to change the res to 1366x768... but cannot see that particualr resolution anywhere... i do get 1200x700 and 1920x1080
[03:02] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"
[03:02] <EtFb> My dmesg has two lines like this whenever I reboot: "[   26.412219] 0000:00:1a.7 EHCI: BIOS handoff failed (BIOS bug ?) 01010001" -- they take 8 seconds each.  How do I fix that and save 16 seconds from my reboot time?
[03:02] <[MindVirus]> Hi. I'm having direct rendering issues.
[03:02] <[MindVirus]> I'm using an Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller.
[03:02] <[MindVirus]> Direct rendering will not work.
[03:02] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve!!! Uhm..i saw a list of downloads...which one is it?
[03:02] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: are you sure apache is running ?
[03:02] <[MindVirus]> Any suggestions?
[03:03] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yup
[03:03] <LakesProse_> isn't directory mask supposed to mean that all new created directories will have given permissions!?!
[03:03] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: thats very odd .... try ps ax | grep apache
[03:03] <abstrakt> hmmm...
[03:03] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Those are mirrors, they should all be the same
[03:03] <abstrakt> well actually i did both apache and httpd
[03:03] <bonez46> scunizi: I know I need better video on all my machines.. what would be a great card, that will allow compiz to run.. anything available under $50 per card?
[03:03] <abstrakt> and i only get the grep instance... so i guess not
[03:03] <[MindVirus]> Any suggestions/
[03:03] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:03] <[MindVirus]> *suggestions?
[03:04] <Dracie> sudo invoked apache2 restart
[03:04] <coreyman> i found wine files in my home dir, but i cant find firefox
[03:04] <Dracie> cleaner
[03:04] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: all of those are the same?the exe, gz, tr?
[03:04] <coreyman> where are my firefox downloaded files
[03:04] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, did that... still no apache processes
[03:04] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Ah, no...
[03:04] <durt> bonez46, whatever the stores have in old Nvidia
[03:04] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: well did it restart ?
[03:04] <bonez46> akgraner: I admire a flower amongst all these thorns..
[03:04] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, it says it did, yes
[03:04] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: hmmmm
[03:04] <Cpudan80> very odd ...
[03:04] <bonez46> old nvidia, eh? is that the best card for compiz and to upgrade?
[03:05] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: see whats in the log /var/log/apache2.log
[03:05] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: thats my question..which one after clicking a mirror....i can see a lot of links
[03:05] <durt> bonez46, for under 50
[03:05] <bonez46> ok..
[03:05] <raven10> http://download.linux-live-cd.org/Super_Grub_Disk/download/binaries/sgd/cdrom/
[03:05] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: http://forjamari.linex.org/frs/download.php/1133/super_grub_disk_0.9774.iso
[03:05] <Stupendo1ssteve> That's what you want to put on the cd
[03:05] <raven10> is that the whole thing already?
[03:06] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, hmm... i've got some PHP fatal errors in there
[03:06] <Stupendo1ssteve> Yes
[03:06] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: err sorry - the apache logs are /var/log/apache2/...
[03:06] <abstrakt> doesn't wanna setup PDO
[03:06] <abstrakt> apparently
[03:06] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: oh..have u tried the Brasero?does it really burn images?
[03:06] <scunizi> bonez46: an nvidia mx 400 and above will work fine.. those are agp..
[03:06] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Brasero can burn images
[03:06] <johnson1> how do i read a .ko file
[03:06] <bonez46> ok..
[03:06] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: PDO ?
[03:07] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: have u tried burning an image through it?did it work?
[03:07] <slerder> Hey guys, is there such thing as a 26 inch lcd tv with 1080 p? and if so, in that size of a screen can you tell the difference between 720p, 1080p and 1080i? thanks
[03:07] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yup... it's a PHP database abstraction layer
[03:07] <abstrakt> PECL extension
[03:07] <Tommy_Bres> someone fix my sound, it dont work :(
[03:07] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ok well - if its failing to start because of some mod - remove that mod
[03:07] <scunizi> bonez46: better yet and probably still available retail is the 6000 series of nvidia.. I had a 6600 that worked great
[03:07] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yes
[03:07] <[MindVirus]> Direct rendering will not work. I'm using an Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Any suggestions?
[03:07] <neatojones> Hello.  Does anyone know how to get the kernel module "loop" for Ubuntu?  I'm running Jaunty?
[03:07] <Cpudan80> slerder: off topic - you wont be able to tell the difference at that size though
[03:08] <LandonG> Hey all, I have a quick question, I was just wondering how I would find out what my wireless connection is called?
[03:08] <Stupendo1ssteve> johnson1: You don't read them, they are binary files. You load them using lsmod
[03:08] <LandonG> I know my wired is called ath0
[03:08] <LandonG> sorry, Eth0
[03:08] <Cpudan80> LandonG: iwconfig
[03:08] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: uhm..coz it seems so simple...i dont know how to actually use it
[03:08] <LandonG> IWconfig
[03:08] <LandonG> That makes more sense than IF
[03:08] <johnson1> i want to see the c code for it
[03:08] <LandonG> Thanks
[03:08] <johnson1> i want to see the c code
[03:08] <abstrakt> sunnuva
[03:08] <johnson1> for virtio-net driver
[03:08] <Stupendo1ssteve> neatojones: It's called loop
[03:08] <Cpudan80> LandonG: the non-wifi interfaces say "no wireless extensions" or something
[03:09] <abstrakt> i'm *still* getting PDO errors... i don't even have PDO loaded in my php.ini !
[03:09] <abstrakt> blah
[03:09] <Stupendo1ssteve> neatojones: modprobe
[03:09] <Stupendo1ssteve> neatojones: er, modprobe loop
[03:09] <[MindVirus]> *suggestions?
[03:09] <neatojones> Stupendo1ssteve:  I tried modprobe loop and it said it wasn't installed
[03:09] <johnson1> in /lib/2.6 generic/kernel/drivers/virtio
[03:09] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: but that thing might be loading a module into apache directl
[03:09] <neatojones> FATAL: Module loop not found.
[03:09] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: see /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[03:10] <bonez46> scunizi: I'll look for a 6000 series then..
[03:10] <Stupendo1ssteve> johnson1: Thar's not the c code... you need to install the kernel source
[03:10] <neatojones> Stupendo1ssteve:  I've been searching for info on the net and can't find anything.
[03:10] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, nah it's a PHP module, not an apache module
[03:10] <johnson1> how do i get it
[03:10] <johnson1> ?
[03:10] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: you could disable all of PHP for testing
[03:10] <johnson1> how do i get kernel source code?
[03:10] <johnson1> from where?
[03:10] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: a2dismod php5 (to reenable use a2enmod)
 www.kernel.org
[03:11] <abstrakt> k
[03:11] <hhp2k> Hey everyone!
[03:11] <nvstp> Morning
[03:11] <[MindVirus]> Direct rendering will not work. I'm using an Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Any suggestions?
[03:11] <hhp2k> Does anyone know if there is a way to embed Pidgin's Buddy List Window into the desktop on Ubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04)?
[03:12] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, ok cool it works now
[03:12] <abstrakt> fucking PDO
[03:12] <abstrakt> such crap... this makes no sense
[03:12] <EtFb> What does "BIOS handoff failed" mean and why does it take 16 seconds to do it?
[03:13] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ok - glad it works, at least you have a jumping off point
[03:13] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, how do i find out what package a given file belongs to?
[03:13] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ehhhhh
[03:13] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: dunno
[03:13] <Cpudan80> someone will know
[03:13] <EtFb> abstrakt: <sudo apt-file search [filename]> is good
[03:13] <Stupendo1ssteve> abstrakt: dpkg -S
[03:13] <EtFb> Stupendo1ssteve: Ah! Old skool!
[03:13] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, e.g. there is a file /etc/php5/conf.d/pdo.ini
[03:14] <abstrakt> i need to find out what package installed that
[03:14] <Stupendo1ssteve> EtFb: Indeed, but it works ;)
[03:15] <kantlivelong> hey all, i was wondering what shutdown dialog app ubuntu uses? im a gentoo user and i dont seem to be getting the same stuff
[03:15] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: dpkg -S filePathhere
[03:15] <EtFb> Stupendo1ssteve: Therez no skool l1ke tha old skool!  Or somesuch pseudo-african-american argot.
[03:15] <Cpudan80> as per Stupendo1ssteve
[03:15] <abstrakt> wtf
[03:15] <abstrakt> i think that the php5 binary in 8.04 is b0rked
[03:15] <Stupendo1ssteve> Hmm. Wonder why my name is spelled wrong.
[03:15] <Cpudan80> it isnt - but you can think that if you want ;-)
[03:15] <Stupendo1ssteve> I just noticed, time to fix my .irssi/config typo!
[03:16]  * EtFb bets that Stupendo1ssteve will come back and his name will be Doris.
[03:16] <harpreet> How can I use windows applications on ubuntu (except wine , which is exceptionally slow). any help?
[03:17] <Stupendoussteve> EtFb: Hardly ;)
[03:17] <Stupendoussteve> I forgot I had irssi running in screen on another system...
[03:17] <Cpudan80> harpreet: ehh you ... cant
[03:17] <EtFb> Stupendoussteve: Hi Doris!
[03:17] <harpreet> Cpudan80: there has to be another way
[03:17] <Stupendoussteve> EtFb: Why hello, Mary!
[03:17] <Cpudan80> harpreet: wine, virtual machine, thats pretty much your only choices
[03:17] <EtFb> harpreet: There are a million answers to that question.  Most but not all of them are "no".
[03:17] <EtFb> Stupendoussteve: Curses!  You saw through my cunning disguise!
[03:18] <mupa> hello, i just bult a new htpc. the mobo has hdmi out and using a nvidia 8200 integrated. i have the nvidia driver installed and working, but I want to change the res to 1366x768... but cannot see that particualr resolution anywhere... i do get 1200x700 and 1920x1080
[03:18] <Cpudan80> harpreet: or you could find the windows source and recompile/rewrite the stuff to use unix/linux system calls/utils
[03:18] <harpreet> Cpudan80: true
[03:18] <EtFb> harpreet: Give us some more info.  What do you want to run?  If it's Firefox, easy.  If it's World of Warcraft, maybe harder.
[03:18] <Ububegin> i am able to do this in a console...sftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in a console.. How do I modify this command to run in the nautilus(or GUI window) window
[03:19] <datruth> Does anyone here use ubuntu 8.10 and is able to vpn to windows 2003 server?
[03:19] <harpreet> EtFb: I want to run an accounting software that is made for windows vista
[03:19] <kantlivelong> datruth: i know networkmanager can connect to win2003 vpn ive also had it connect to cisco routers
[03:19] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: In the places menu, there is connect to server. Choose SSH
[03:19] <tymithe> Need help : I'm Just installed Ubuntu, My Sound in web pages and the whole system is not working. Some one help?
[03:19] <harpreet> EtFb: I hate running windows , specially on April 01,
[03:20] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: It may not be called places, and may not be called ssh, but it  is similar
[03:20] <dimy> Dimy@
[03:20] <EtFb> harpreet: You might get it running in WINE, but not otherwise.  Being accounting s/w, it's probably closed source.  Being Vista, it'll be slow in VMWare.  You may need to just bite the bullet and put up with it, or else try a pencil and paper.
[03:21] <tymithe> ?
[03:21] <harpreet> EtFb: I hate microsoft
[03:21] <Ububegin> Stupendoussteve: I tired this... sftp://ip.com ... but I cant get throught...
[03:21] <tymithe> can any one help please?
[03:21] <EtFb> harpreet: But Microsoft loves you!  (Where you = your wallet.)
[03:21] <marcham89> Hey I have a dual boot system. Every time I log in I have to mount the windows partition. is there any way I can get it to auto mount on login?
[03:21] <datruth> kantlivelong: Ok I keep getting failed vpn  now in the syslog I see Non-zero Async Control Character Maps are not supported! what can I do to fix this? I even cleared the password so it prompts me I even used gconf and added the refuse-eap yes key still fails but I tested with windows and the vpn does work is there something I'm doing wrong?
[03:21] <harpreet> EtFb: good joke
[03:21] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: You are using gnome, correct?
[03:22] <Ububegin> Stupendoussteve: yeah...
[03:22] <tymithe> Need help : I'm Just installed Ubuntu, My Sound in web pages and the whole system is not working. Some one help?
[03:22] <EtFb> harpreet: Joke?  Uh, yeah, joke... right...
[03:22] <TheShahFactor> just do a google tymithe
[03:22] <FAJ> Hi I need some really big help here; after the last round of kernel updates, ndiswrapper has stopped working alltogether!  it will show the drivers in ndiswrapper -l but modprobe says that "Module ndiswrapper not found." usbcore shows ups and is working, but i cannot get ndiswrapper to work again!  I have tried reinstalling ndiswrapper, and doing ndiswrapper -m to no avail HELP PLEASE!
[03:22] <dimy> #semarang
[03:22] <EtFb> tymithe: There are a lot of web pages out there that offer help on that.  One of them might work, if you're lucky.
[03:22] <LandonG> Hey all, I have another quick question: I was connected to my school wireless network just fine for awhile. It ran a WPA-RADIUS with a TKIP encryption. Then all of a sudden it stopped working, and I no longer have the option for TKIP or WPA-Radius. I have WPA_Supplicant installed and i think I have it working. It uses PEAP v0 and MSCHAPv2. Anyone have an idea
[03:22] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: In the bar at the top is a Places menu. Do Places> Connect to Server and choose SSH from the drop down, then put in the info
[03:22] <pumpkinseed> hello everyone
[03:22] <Stupendoussteve> It will mount the server and open in the file manager
[03:23] <etzerd> hello all
[03:23] <etzerd> ?
[03:23] <pumpkinseed> hello etzerd
[03:23] <Stupendoussteve> etzerd: Hello etzerd ?
[03:23] <etzerd> is there a way that I can install some application automaticly
[03:23] <etzerd> pumpkinseed: hello
[03:24] <EtFb> tymithe: Hint: you'll have better luck if you're using a Lenovo, IBM, Toshiba or Dell machine.  If you're on an Acer, give up now and return it to place of purchase.
[03:24] <TheShahFactor> etzerd : synaptic?
[03:24] <LandonG> etzerd: use the synaptic package manager
[03:24] <etzerd> thanks
[03:24] <Stupendoussteve> etzerd: apt-get install?
[03:24] <FAJ> Hi I need some really big help here; after the last round of kernel updates, ndiswrapper has stopped working alltogether!  it will show the drivers in ndiswrapper -l but modprobe says that "Module ndiswrapper not found." usbcore shows ups and is working, but i cannot get ndiswrapper to work again!  I have tried reinstalling ndiswrapper, and doing ndiswrapper -m to no avail HELP PLEASE!
[03:24] <tymithe> EtFb <: im running it as in im running it off a desktop and i wanted to try the linux out
[03:25] <scunizi> what command do i use at terminal to see if nvidia's driver is loaded?
[03:25] <Stupendoussteve> scunizi: lsmod, look for nvidia
[03:25] <Ububegin> Stupendoussteve: i tried SSH..and the drive got mounted... but when I click on it, it simply states as *Loading*... :S
[03:25] <lu6cifer> Does gparted let you resize your windows partition, and move that unallocated space into /home?
[03:26] <EtFb> tymithe: Short plan of attack: Find out the exact model of sound hardware.  Google for that along with keywords like "sound" and "Ubuntu".  Follow instructions.  Realise they don
[03:26] <Stupendoussteve> scunizi: And look in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, grep for nvidia and make sure X is using the nvidia driver
[03:26] <etzerd> ?
[03:26] <EtFb> tymithe: ... Realise they don't work.  Repeat ad infinitum.
[03:26] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: Hmm. Well that's how it should mount :x
[03:26] <scunizi> Stupendoussteve: got it.. it's there.. weirdness lately. I try to load a game like Alien Arena and it screws up the resolution and doesn't load.. then I have to restart the gdm..
[03:26] <dsmith_> who does LVM recoveries?
[03:26] <Ububegin> Stupendoussteve: what is port number to use
[03:27] <Ububegin> for SSH
[03:27] <Rabbitbunny> Ububegin: 22
[03:27] <etzerd> when I open a windows I cannot see the Minimize, Maximize and the close button on the top right side
[03:27] <Rabbitbunny> etzerd: Does the frame show up? do you use compiz?
[03:27] <harpreet> has anyone tried gnucash
[03:27] <lu6cifer> etzerd: are the buttons hidden under the panel?
[03:27] <tymithe> EtFB : I'm not a moron, I have been doing this all day long man, I looked up my MOBO ( ASUS MSN-E SLI It runs C-Media HD Chip) and still couldnt find info on it.
[03:27] <etzerd> Yes the frame show up
[03:27] <Rabbitbunny> harpreet: Yes, got a question?
[03:28] <Stupendoussteve> tymithe: Tried looking for the exact output from lspci?
[03:28] <harpreet> Rabbitbunny: how different is it than simply accounting for windows?
[03:28] <lu6cifer> just move the panel and drag out the window. It should pop into place
[03:28] <etzerd> but with minize or maximize button
[03:28] <tymithe> Stup : no how?
[03:28] <tymithe> threw term..
[03:28] <tymithe> ?
[03:28] <Stupendoussteve> lu6cifer: You can hold alt and drag a window
[03:28] <lu6cifer> yea
[03:28] <scunizi> Stupendoussteve: grepping the log file shows the nvidia driver is installed.. I can't activate compiz either.. with previously I have been able to.  I wonder if one of the latest updates broke my nvidia driver install.. (I got it directly from nvidia..)
[03:29] <lu6cifer> that works as well
[03:29] <Rabbitbunny> harpreet: Ah, never used simply accounting. However, if you look at the screenshots and maybe read the wikipedia on double entry accounting, you should get a pretty good idea. Overall it's ont of the programs I use most.
[03:29] <etzerd> I don used compiz
[03:29] <Stupendoussteve> scunizi: Ah, it wouldn't surprise me
[03:29] <Rabbitbunny> etzerd: Ouch, I'm sorry then, I don't have the faintest what could be causing your problem, sorry.
[03:29] <c0l2e> you cannot install other OS like windows XP when you already installed ubuntu right??
[03:30] <Rabbitbunny> c0l2e: Yes you can, It's called 'dual-booting'.
[03:30] <soreau> c0l2e: You can
[03:30] <scunizi> Stupendoussteve: that's probably what's going on.. I can't load any of my standard games.. looks like it's off to nvidia for the latest :)
[03:30] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: not on the same partition
[03:30] <c0l2e> coz I got partitions like /boot / and /home
[03:30] <harpreet> c0l2e: yes, you cam
[03:30] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: but on a different partition / HDD ... you can
[03:30] <soreau> c0l2e: You may have to do some repartitioning but it's quite doable
[03:30] <harpreet> c0l2e: install those ontop of ubuntu
[03:30] <c0l2e> but i already got 4 partitions
[03:30] <Stupendoussteve> c0l2e: and you'll probably have to reinstall grub
[03:30] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: XP will break your ubuntu bootloader
[03:30] <c0l2e> 1 for /home, 1 for /boot, 1 for swap and last for /
[03:30] <Ububegin> Rabbitbunny: :S ... still laoding ....
[03:31] <Cpudan80> I wonder if XP counts partitions it cant read
[03:31] <c0l2e> when I tried to install windows XP.. there's a partition problem
[03:31] <Cpudan80> in the 4 partition limit...
[03:31] <Rabbitbunny> Ububegin: does the other box have SSH? can you ping it?
[03:31] <Cpudan80> oh well if it gives an error than that answers that question
[03:31] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: so merge some of them
[03:31] <c0l2e> Cpudan80:  hmm
[03:32] <c0l2e> Cpudan80: what is the allow max partition that windows XP can install?
[03:32] <Anon> Hello all.
[03:32] <Cpudan80> I think 4 - ##windows would know for sure
[03:32] <Stupendoussteve> Cpudan80: The 4 primary partition limit is bios, not imposed by windows
[03:32] <c0l2e> if i made it to 3 partition and the ntfs for XP is the port can it be installed?
[03:32] <Anon> Could someone help me here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6994058
[03:32] <Cpudan80> Stupendoussteve: really?
[03:33] <Cpudan80> I didnt know that
[03:33] <Stupendoussteve> c0l2e: If you're willing to reinstall, I suggest using a primary for /boot, and putting others on a logical partition
[03:33] <c0l2e> or i just reinstall ubuntu .. clear partition first.. install windows XP then install ubuntu
[03:33] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: in theory
[03:33] <pumpkinseed> I have a problem. I am running ubuntu 8.10 64bit with a GeForce 8800 GTX. I was using the restricted 177 drivers and then tried to install the 180.22 drivers and they bonked my video (could only get into a command prompt). After lots and lots of work I got my system to accept the 180.11 drivers, but I can not get it past "low graphics mode". Any help would be appreciated.
[03:33] <[MindVirus]> Is mbr safe to remove?
[03:33] <Anon> I don't know if I even have a graphics card.
[03:34] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: umm no
[03:34] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: Where does your monitor plug in?
[03:34] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: you have to have an MBR to ... boot
[03:34] <[MindVirus]> I know.
[03:34] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I have a laptop.
[03:34] <mrsteveman1> [mindvirus]: the mbr package just has an mbr.bin file in it and perhaps some other things
[03:34] <[MindVirus]> But autoremove is telling me it's optional.
[03:34] <ceil420> Rabbitbunny, could be an integrated chip
[03:34] <mrsteveman1> it is
[03:34] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: You don't.
[03:34] <mrsteveman1> unless you want lilo or some other things to fix your bootloader
[03:34] <mrsteveman1> removing mbr package isn't going to suddenly make the system not boot
[03:34] <[MindVirus]> So which is it, mrsteveman1, Cpudan80?
[03:34] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Intersting. Exactly how do you know this?
[03:35] <Anon> *interesting.
[03:35] <mrsteveman1> removing a package isn't going to wipe the mbr or anything
[03:35] <Ububegin> Rabbitbunny:i am able to do this in a console...sftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in a console.. How do I modify this command to run in the nautilus(or GUI window) window... and i oso can ssh to access the drive
[03:35] <Ububegin> *also*
[03:35] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: It's a laptop, Where would the card go? read wikipedia "AGP" "PCI" to see how they attach.
[03:36] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Isn't it possible for a laptop to have an internal card?
[03:36] <[MindVirus]> Cpudan80, so is it safe or not?
[03:36] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Yes. It's still a graphics card
[03:36] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Otherwise you would not have a picture ;)
[03:36] <Rabbitbunny> Ububegin: You could get a GUI ftp client?
[03:36] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: I dont know about the mbr package
[03:36] <Cpudan80> !info mbr
[03:36] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Well, there aren't any graphics cards shown by doing lspci.
[03:36] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: Yes, You have an internal card, the Intel.
[03:36] <[MindVirus]> Sweet. OK.
[03:36] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: optional - it can be removed
[03:36] <[MindVirus]> So it's optional.
[03:36] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: VGA?
[03:36] <pumpkinseed> I have a problem. I am running ubuntu 8.10 64bit with a GeForce 8800 GTX. I was using the restricted 177 drivers and then tried to install the 180.22 drivers and they bonked my video (could only get into a command prompt). After lots and lots of work I got my system to accept the 180.11 drivers, but I can not get it past "low graphics mode". Any help would be appreciated.
[03:37] <[MindVirus]> You scared me for a second. :)
[03:37] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: OK. At least I know where I stand now.
[03:38] <scunizi> Stupendoussteve: it was definitely the driver.. by updating from the .28 driver to the .44 driver I also notice a considerable increase in the screen writes.. pleasant install.
[03:38] <lepassive_> I got X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[03:38] <lepassive_>  error with vlc and totem ?
[03:38] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: honestly, its probly better to roll back to the 177 drivers, i didn't try to fight it with my 9800gx2, i had the same problem as you
[03:38] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: Out of curiosity, what made you think one was in there?
[03:38] <Anon> But for some reason, nexuiz won't launch at all. I suspect it's a graphics problem. Here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/141072/
[03:38] <RedMushroom> is the person who talked with me about my troubles getting a boot floppy for my box in here still?
[03:38] <datruth> Can someone please help me with VPN to windows 2003 server from ubuntu?
[03:38] <RedMushroom> we were talking over IM
[03:38] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Just an unfounded assumption.
[03:38] <pumpkinseed> musikgoar|main: could you help me with the rollback
[03:39] <pumpkinseed> musikgoar|main: i need to make sure all remnants of the newer drivers are removed, etc.
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: go into low-graphics mode, login, go to system -> admin -> hardware drivers
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: you can, after you load the 177 drivers
[03:39] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: The reason that game won't run is that your card doesn't support that resolution, find how to change that.
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: then you can apt-get purge the 180 drivers if you want
[03:40] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I kid you not, but it worked until Monday.
[03:40] <Ububegin> Rabbitbunny: thanks.. just got gftp... its sweet...
[03:40] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Could I be missing some drivers?
[03:41] <keith> Is there a linux command to find the block size of a filesystem?
[03:41] <Anon> Ububegin: Try filezilla.
[03:42] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Does glxgears run?
[03:42] <dsb586> hola regrese
[03:42] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: I just loaded up the 180.44 drivers and they are working excellent.. one of the issues installing them is you have to use synaptic and uninstall all nvidia references listed.. then install the new drivers from a tty with the gui stopped..
[03:42] <outoftime> hi all - trying to open a graphical app directly from a terminal session using xinit, but sound doesn't seem to be working properly. anyone know off hand how I would start up alsa and/or pulse?
[03:42] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Nope. 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:42] <Anon> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual'
[03:42] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: hey..i tried SGD..but it says Error 15: File doesn't exist... when i choose GNU/Linux
[03:42] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Your hardware acceleration is broken
[03:43] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: hmm, i didn't attempt that
[03:43] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: How could I fix it?
[03:43] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: that is unless you're getting the 180 drivers from midibuntu. In which case you are installing older drivers that might have issues.
[03:43] <pumpkinseed> musikgoar|main: nothing in hardware devices except the 180 drivers
[03:44] <pumpkinseed> musikgoar|main: hardware "drivers" rather
[03:44] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: .......hey..i tried SGD..but it says Error 15: File doesn't exist... when i choose GNU/Linux
[03:44] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: This forum thread may help... http://tinyurl.com/crgcjb
[03:44] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: I guess if you're running intrepid you have access to the 180 driver directly from apt-get or synaptic.. no need to install from the terminal.. however if you get the latest drivers direct from nvidia you do.
[03:45] <Stupendoussteve> raven10: Look through the SBM docs and see if you need to supply an argument. I believe you need to tell it the partition
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: i do have the medibuntu repo in my sources
[03:45] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I'll take a look, thanks.
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: hmm, i'm not sure why the 177's wouldn't show in your hardware drivers list
[03:46] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: the 180 drivers in the repos are version 180.11.. those weren't very good.. the latest version is 180.44 and is only available from nvidia.
[03:46] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: SBM?hmm..weh..the only drives and partitions that i can see is my System recovery (hd0,0) and Windows XP Os (hd0,1)
[03:46] <dimy> #buntu
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: is there still the issue that you have to reconfigure the drivers after every kernel update?
[03:46] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: what kind of card do you have.. nvidia obviously but which one.  Yes you have to reinstall the drivers after every kernel update
[03:47] <musikgoat|main> 9800gx2
[03:47] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: yea.. I'd go directly to nvidia for that card.. you'll notice a big difference..
[03:47] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Restarting X.
[03:47] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: thanks for the suggestion
[03:48] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.44.html
[03:48] <musikgoat|main> i would need the 64 bit drivers, but i can find the link
[03:49] <Anon> Hello all.
[03:49] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: X is working. I'll check what glxgears does now.
[03:49] <Anon> Nope, still broken. I'll keep reading.
[03:49] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: amd or intel?
[03:49] <musikgoat|main> amd
[03:50] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html you'll see them on this page with the link
[03:50] <musikgoat|main> thanks scunizi
[03:50] <jeeves> is there a repair utility for OpenOffice docs?
[03:51] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I'm reconfiguring x.
[03:51] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: although they say they are for redhat.. go figure.. maybe it's just a 64 bit thing
[03:51] <kitche> jeeves: what do you mean by repair?
[03:51] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: i'm not seeing it here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.44.html
[03:51] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: actually the amd version is ok.. it's the intel one that mentions only redhat
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> hmm, eh
[03:52] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: look at step 2.. right mouse click the link and save to the desktoop
[03:52] <scunizi> desktop
[03:52] <jeeves> kitche, when I try to open the file, I get a "general error" pop up
[03:52] <Royall> http://i43.tinypic.com/m9c903.png
[03:52] <Royall> Maybe we should have some sort of, you know, cap
[03:52] <backz> hi, my CPU is overheating when I'm doing hard work. How can I get thermal info about cores? I can't get /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/trip_point
[03:52] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: it's towards the bottom of the page
[03:52] <kitche> jeeves: hmm not sure never seen a general error with openoffice
[03:52] <Royall> And when the estimated time reaches that, change to 'Forever'
[03:53] <Anon> Restarting X. Again.
[03:53] <jeeves> kitche, neither have I!
[03:54] <Anon> Hello all.
[03:54] <Stupendoussteve> Welcome back
[03:54] <Anon> glxgears doesn't work :(
[03:54] <Anon> Will keep reading.
[03:54] <kitche> jeeves: is this a calc doc?
[03:55] <raven10> guys!!can i merge 2 partitions with GPARted?
[03:56] <raven10> guys..can i merge 2 partitions with GParted?
[03:57] <Leemp> Question: Everything inside /tmp/ should be fine to delete, manually, right?
[03:57] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: did you get it?
[03:57] <Ropechoborra> Leemp, Uhmmm i dont think so
[03:57] <Stupendoussteve> Leemp: Apps put things in /tmp
[03:57] <scream> Does the ati driver still not work in jaunty?
[03:57] <Leemp> Stupendoussteve: I realize, i'm trying to clear an apps cache heh
[03:57] <Ropechoborra> Leemp, it is not recommended to delete temp folder, the system uses it content i dont no for what..
[03:58] <Leemp> k
[03:58] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: I've written instructions to install the driver if you want them
[03:58] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I'm at the end of the thread, and the OP's issue isn't resolved. I'll try adding one last thing to xorg though.
[03:58] <musikgoat|main> yeah, thanks scunizi, i'm good
[03:58] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: check out http://pastebin.com/m65ddab29
[03:58] <musikgoat|main> i'm not trying to update them currently
[03:58] <musikgoat|main> but i'll keep the link
[03:58] <Anon> Restarting X once again.
[03:58] <FAJ> what is up with the ubuntu kernel modules breaking nvidia?!
[03:58] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: the link will be good for 30 days.. copy them to your machine..
[03:59] <musikgoat|main> kk
[03:59] <wolter> what is getlibs command for?
[03:59] <Anon> Hello all.
[03:59] <phuz> I recently installed Windows onto my machine to dual boot, and now when I try to get Grub back onto the machine, I get Error 17:  Cannot mount selected partition after I do the following commands in order:  root (hd0,0) and then setup (hd0)
[04:00] <Anon> X still works.
[04:00] <FAJ> what is up with the ubuntu kernel modules breaking nvidia?!
[04:00] <harpreet> good Anon
[04:00] <Anon> But glxgears doesn't.
[04:00] <coreyman> How do I find a folder I have made, I forgot where it is stored.
[04:00] <pumpkinseed> Hello... I went to the synaptec package manager and removed all Nvidia 180 drivers and then installed the corresponding 177 drivers. I restarted and got into Ubuntu, but I can't get my screen resolution better than 800x600. Also, NVIDIA X Server Settings says I "don't appear to be using the NVIDAI X driver"
[04:00] <Anon> harpreet: :P
[04:00] <phuz> Anyone know how to get this working?
[04:00] <FAJ> what is up with the ubuntu kernel modules breaking nvidia?!
[04:00] <harpreet> phuz get what working?
[04:00] <Stupendoussteve> wolter: getlibs: Automatically solves dependencies for 32-bit programs on 64-bit
[04:00] <SomeoneE1se> is there a correct way to keep a script running? it should never exit but if it does I need it to start back up
[04:00] <Anon> FAJ: No spamming in here.
[04:00] <harpreet> phuz: ?
[04:00] <phuz> harpreet, I recently installed Windows onto my machine to dual boot, and now when I try to get Grub back onto the machine, I get Error 17:  Cannot mount selected partition after I do the following commands in order:  root (hd0,0) and then setup (hd0)
[04:00] <pumpkinseed> Anyone who knows how to get nvidia drivers working correctly in ubuntu 8.10 64bit? Help would be greatly appreciated
[04:01] <FAJ> Anon:  just looking for an answer.
[04:01] <raven10> answer please...can i merge 2 partitions with GPARted?
[04:01] <Anon> FAJ: Spam doesn't speed it.
[04:01] <Stupendoussteve> FAJ: Have not seen that happen. Reinstall nvidia drivers? They are often built against the current kernel and sometimes get broken
[04:01] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Any other ideas?
[04:01] <harpreet> phuz what operating system was installed first and what was installed 2nd?
[04:01] <coreyman> How do I find a folder I have made, I forgot where it is stored.
[04:02] <Anon> coreyman: open a terminal
[04:02] <unteatheredballo> coreyman: sudo updatedb; locate <foldername>
[04:02] <FAJ> Stupendoussteve:  hmmm...... b/c it was weird b/c what happened was the kernel for current hardy worked fine; updates, broke internet, installed linux-ubuntu-modules and headers. broke it.
[04:02] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Can't think of one, look around for your error there are other pages with the same error
[04:02] <phuz> harpreet, Ubuntu first, Win 7 second, and I am back into the Ubuntu livecd
[04:02] <Anon> coreyman: cd / && find -name foldernamehere -type d
[04:02] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Alright.
[04:02] <_Purple_> phu
[04:03] <_Purple_> phuz: that will erase ubuntu
[04:03] <harpreet> coreyman: easy here.......click on places and search for files
[04:03] <pumpkinseed> Anyone here who knows how to get nvidia drivers working correctly in ubuntu 8.10 64bit? Help would be greatly appreciated... I have a GeForce 8800 GTX.
[04:03] <phuz> _Purple_, I beg to differ.  I know what I'm doing, and Ubuntu is still there.
[04:04] <Stupendoussteve> phuz: Reinstalling grub?
[04:04] <phuz> Yes
[04:04] <phuz> And I can't seem to get it to work.
[04:04] <Stupendoussteve> Does ubuntu do some gui or something to do it?
[04:04] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I get no results on the forums for 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:04] <Anon> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual'
[04:05] <harpreet> phuz: you have to change the order of operating system
[04:05] <unteatheredballo> Does anyone remember the name of that server administration program that runs on a web server?
[04:05] <Stupendoussteve> unteatheredballo: webmin? There are a lot of them
[04:05] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: Untrue
[04:05] <FAJ> Anon: Stupendoussteve:  any other thoughts...
[04:05] <phuz> harpreet, That would be awesome, and totally work exactly the way I wanted if I could get grub back into my MBR
[04:05] <unteatheredballo> Stupendoussteve: ah! that's the one I was thinking of, thanks!
[04:05] <Wicked> pumpkinseed, same way you would for 32bit
[04:05] <FAJ> Anon: Stupendoussteve: has this been prevalent with the latest kernel stuffs?
[04:05] <Wicked> !nvidia | pumpkinseed
[04:05] <Anon> FAJ: I don't have an nvidia card so I don't know.
[04:06] <FAJ> Anon  ok
[04:06] <harpreet> phuz: because now grub is looking for primary OS which used to be ubuntu and as you know when windows are installed, windows can only be installed on primary disk
[04:06] <Stupendoussteve> phuz: How are you trying to reinstall it? I only do it manually via chroot and command line
[04:06] <always> pumpkinseed, use driver in module-assistant
[04:06] <n8tuser> phuz -> you're on livecd now?  try  sudo -i  then  grub
[04:06] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: This is completely untrue
[04:06] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: prove
[04:06] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: Grub uses a config file on a partition which it is told when installed to the mbr
[04:06] <n8tuser> phuz -> then try  find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:06] <always> pumpkinseed, apt-get install module-assistant && m-a update && m-a prepare && m-a  (enter in menu and select and ADD nvidia-driver)
[04:07] <FAJ> Stupendoussteve: i tried installing nvidia drivers; no luck.
[04:07] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: As long as it can find (hd0,0) for example and find the config file, it can be told to boot anything
[04:07] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: but windows probably have taken over hd0,0 on mbr
[04:08] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: No. hd0,0 is the first partition on the drive, windows does not reorder the partitions
[04:09] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: there's nothing on the forums.
[04:09] <^paradox^> well ive been gone for an hour
[04:09] <Reefer> !help
[04:10] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: windows , by default don't even recognize ext2, 3 in GUI, otherwise it labels the area as bad sector
[04:10] <Reefer> ok i installed ubuntu with windows XP i installed vista and ubuntu stayed
[04:10] <Reefer> how do i delete it
[04:10] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: Filesystem is not partition, they are different
[04:11] <the10nitro> on Ubuntu mv keeps the same timestamp, but does it do this on all *nix systems
[04:11] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: then windows has started using NTLDR
[04:11] <[MindVirus]> What comes after Z in the Ubuntu naming scheme?
[04:12] <pumpkinseed> the thing is I have the 177 drivers installed but they don't seem to be working --- can't go over 800x600 and NVIDIA X Server settings says 'i don't appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver"
[04:12] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Is there anything for me to do?
[04:12] <FraggedLocust> probably alpha
[04:12] <genii> the10nitro: mv doesn't update timestamps. This only happens if you create or touch a file
[04:12] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Search for yoru error on google, I saw some and sdl
[04:12] <mrsteveman1> [mindvirus]: the singularity
[04:12] <FAJ> pumpkinseed: uninstall linux-ubuntu-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:12] <FraggedLocust> start doing the greek alphabet
[04:13] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: Grub loads the ntldr which loads windows, when grub is installed in the mbr. When you install windows second grub is removed from the mbr, you just have to put it back
[04:13] <always> pumpkinseed,  apt-get install nvidia-180-kernel-source nvidia-settings
[04:13] <pumpkinseed> FAJ: through synaptec?
[04:13] <geremy> does anybody here know how to get around octave not having matlab's getframe() function?
[04:13] <[MindVirus]> mrsteveman1, hahaha.
[04:13] <always> pumpkinseed, vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and add  section driver >  Driver "nvidia"
[04:13] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Most of them are for nvidia, it seems.
[04:13] <FAJ> pumpkinseed:  sure... it kinda worked for mee...
[04:13] <the10nitro> genii: Thank you.  I wasn't sure if it would suddenly decide to touch them if I went to BSD or Fedora or something.
[04:14] <[MindVirus]> What is that even supposed to mean?
[04:14] <coreyman> how do i give everyone samba permissions?
[04:14] <genii> the10nitro: If you cp them it will... if you mv them it won't
[04:14] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: i remember there is a gui utility in ubuntu which lets you back up grub, copy to mbr etc., i forgot the name
[04:15] <Anon> Hello all.
[04:15] <Anon> Oops.
[04:15] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: I just do it manually the Gentoo Handbook way :D
[04:15] <harpreet> Anon hello
[04:15] <Stupendoussteve> [MindVirus]: After Z in the hard drives? After hdz?
[04:15] <harpreet> Anon: hello
[04:15]  * datruth is stumped
[04:15] <[MindVirus]> Well, that's an interesting question too, so yes.
[04:15] <musikgoat|main> aa'
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> aa
[04:16] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: It rolls back over to A
[04:16] <[MindVirus]> But my original question is what goes after Z in Ubuntu's naming scheme?
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> (is my guess
[04:16] <[MindVirus]> Aardvark?
[04:16] <datruth> Can someone point me to an how to of how to vpn to my windows 2003 server (thats the vpn server)?
[04:16] <[MindVirus]> Then what? Bbear?
[04:16] <Cpudan80> maybe
[04:16] <Cpudan80> The names of the animals arent picked till closer to the release date
[04:16] <Cpudan80> We've got a long way to go before that happens ;-)
[04:16] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I'll post in that topic you pointed me to.
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> like 10 years
[04:16] <harpreet> MindVirus: after Z , alphabet is finished :D
[04:16] <[MindVirus]> Well, once we get to AA, we'd be limited to very few opportunities.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> Aardvark, aardwolf.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> I think that's it.
[04:17] <wolter> has anybody used evolution 2.26 yet?
[04:17] <Stupendoussteve> [MindVirus]: Drives go to /dev/hdaa after hdz
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> OK.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> It's a silly naming scheme.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> I believe it should be more like GRUB's naming scheme.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> hd0,0 for example.
[04:18] <Anon> [MindVirus]: I suspect that there would be no need to make new versions after that :P
[04:18] <[MindVirus]> Anon, :)
[04:18] <pumpkinseed> how would I go about installing the 180.44 nvidia driver (binary) from the NVIDIA website?
[04:19] <^paradox^> is there someone here now who can help me get my palm z22 synched?
[04:19] <geremy> does anybody here know how to get around octave not having matlab's getframe() function? or know where might be a more appropriate place to ask?
[04:19] <Anon> It seems all of the people with my problem have nvidia cards.
[04:19] <always> pumpkinseed, nvidia driver in site or nvidia modules for ubuntu, is best you compile kernel
[04:20] <akgraner> wolter: I set it up just to see how it worked...but that's about it...
[04:20] <^paradox^> had to leave for an hour
[04:20] <always> pumpkinseed, kernel generic sux
[04:20] <taz> i have prombles with flash...before it was work  great 8.10 so i did upgrade to 9.04  now there no work with flash .. can anyone can help me for terminal to fix with flash ....please
[04:20] <always> taz, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:20] <taz> i did
[04:20] <wolter> akgraner, you still have it? I would like to know if evolution automatically adds contacts when you send an email to them
[04:20] <noodlesgc> !jaunty | taz
[04:20] <taz> nothing happend
[04:21] <FAJ> Ok, so I uninstalled linux-ubuntu-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and now no internet!  any help please!
[04:21] <^paradox^> but still need help with that
[04:21] <pumpkinseed> So again... how would I go about installing the 180.44 nvidia driver (binary) from the NVIDIA website?
[04:21] <akgraner> wolter: yes I still have it set up
[04:24] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: scunizi suggested these instructions: http://pastebin.com/m65ddab29
[04:24] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: How do I determine which intel card I have?
[04:25] <mrsteveman1> FAJ: probably shouldn't have done that :)
[04:25] <pumpkinseed> musikgoat|main: thanks
[04:27] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Are you there?
[04:27] <monkeyb> I'm having a problem with apache not starting on boot, but it is starting when i run sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start, this is the error, Any ideas on how this can happen?
[04:28] <monkeyb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/142506/
[04:28] <zek> I just want to thank all of you for being helpful whenever i have troubles with ubuntu.  I think that the community is part of what makes open source great.  if more people knew about this source of help i think more people would use linux
[04:29] <realsifo> halo.why my video in totem become blue color?
[04:29] <realsifo> its blury
[04:30] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: Had a small problem here, you still figuring out graphics?
[04:30] <^paradox^> trying to sync palm z22 but keep getting error messages. can anyone assist?
[04:31] <monkeyb> the script is being run as root on startup, and there dont appear to be any programs bound to the port at that point in time, http://paste.ubuntu.com/142508/
[04:31] <janggo> irc
[04:31] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Yes.
[04:31] <janggo> hi
[04:31] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I don't believe I have the right drivers.
[04:32] <realsifo> can you help me?
[04:32] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: What have you figured out and what's the name of this game?
[04:32] <^paradox^> come on i gotta have my palm for errand running and other duties a hand please?
[04:32] <Rabbitbunny> realsifo: check out the restricted codecs, or try another video
[04:33] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: glxgears returns Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:33] <Anon> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[04:33] <volo1> Anyone know how to clear out old residue information out of ~/.thumbnails and ~/.nautilus/saved-session-* files without breaking my Gnome profile?
[04:33] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I have an intel card.
[04:33] <realsifo> yup.how to normalize it?
[04:34] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: got it's lspci line?
[04:34] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142510/
[04:35] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I also did sudo dpkq-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:35] <coreyman> How can I allow a user to be able to write to samba from windows.
[04:35] <coreyman> a samba share
[04:36] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/142514/