[04:49] <Dr_willis> Assid,  check your xorg.conf ?
[04:49] <x_link> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32630/
[04:49] <Assid> Dr_willis: what driver does it use ? nvidia ?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:50] <Dr_willis>         Driver          "nvidia"
[04:50] <Assid> yes.. i changed it to nvidia myself
[04:50] <Dr_willis> x_link,  dont look like ya got java installed right.
[04:50] <Assid> and and also load "glx" and load "dbe"
[04:50] <Dr_willis> !java
[04:50] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> I always use ---> sudo apt-get install install sun-java6-jre
[04:51] <x_link> Dr_willis: Hmm ok
[04:51] <Assid> also added: Option          "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" to my "Screen"
[04:51] <x_link> Dr_willis: I did sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre and sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[04:51] <x_link> Dr_willis: Should I remove that and install sun-java6-jre instead?
[04:51] <Dr_willis> i dont use 5 any more. :) i use 6
[04:51] <Dr_willis> no idea if they conflict or not.. proberly not
[04:52] <x_link> Dr_willis: It worked with 5 in Debian.
[04:52] <x_link> Should I remove 5 before installing 6?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> theres the update-alternatives feature . so they shouldent ocnflict.
[04:52] <Dr_willis> remove them if ya want..
[04:52] <x_link> ok
[04:52] <Assid> AddARGBGLXVisuals is that supposed to be in screens or device ?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Assid,  ive never noticed. :)
[04:53] <Steven_Laptop> hello all, Quick ? were can I find a good sources.list and a howto to get them keys working
[04:53] <x_link> Dr_willis: sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[04:53] <Dr_willis> grep AddARGBGLXVisuals  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <Dr_willis>         Option          "AddARGBGLXVisuals"     "True"
[04:53] <Dr_willis> is in mine.
[04:53] <x_link> Dr_willis: That's all I need right?
[04:53] <Assid> yes.. but where ?
[04:53] <stdin> !source-o-matic | Steven_Laptop
[04:53] <ubotu> Steven_Laptop: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:53] <Assid> is that in screen ? or device
[04:53] <Dr_willis> x_link,  no idea. I imagine so however.
[04:53] <x_link> Dr_willis: ok
[04:54] <x_link> Installing it now.
[04:54] <Assid> Dr_willis: some places say its suposed to be in device .. some places show me in screen
[04:54] <Dr_willis> mine is under the DEVICE section
[04:55] <x_link> Dr_willis: Done..
[04:55] <Dr_willis>         Option          "AddARGBVisuals"        "True"
[04:55] <Dr_willis>         Option          "AddARGBGLXVisuals"     "True"
[04:55] <x_link> Dr_willis: You said I should use a repo, but I can't find LimeWire in the Kubuntu repo?
[04:55] <Dr_willis> !frostwire
[04:55] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:55] <Dr_willis> check the guides for frostwire and limewire. (i sugggest using frostwire)
[04:55] <x_link> ok
[04:56] <Dr_willis> using Mint Linux here. :) its in the mint repos. heh.
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Get:1 http://www.linuxmint.com cassandra/ frostwire 4.13.1-7 [7139kB]
[04:57] <Dr_willis> but thats proberly a 'no no' for official tech support in this channel
[04:57] <ronin_> Dear god... I think... I think I got ATI to work
[04:57] <Steven_Laptop> thanks
[04:59] <misio> dzie dobry
[04:59] <x_link> Dr_willis: I will see if it works now
[04:59] <Assid> Dr_willis: okay gonna see if those things help out
[04:59] <Assid> brb
[05:00] <misio_zaglady> does anybody know how to expand virtual hard disk space in virtualbox?
[05:00] <misio_zaglady> i ran off
[05:00] <x_link> Dr_willis: Still doesn't work. It's just loading then it dissapears
[05:02] <misio_zaglady> Does anybody know how to expand virtual hard disk space in virtualbox?
[05:02] <stdin> misio_zaglady: try asking in #vbox
[05:03] <misio_zaglady> thx
[05:03] <x_link> Dr_willis: It doesn't work =/
[05:03] <Assid> okay back
[05:04] <Assid> Dr_willis: okay i did those.. and some stuff from some forums.. and it seems to be a bit better
[05:04] <Assid> not sure if its cause i restarted X either
[05:04] <Assid> but my glx gears just went up
[05:04] <adenicio> HOW TO INSTALL .TAR.TAR FILES
[05:05] <adenicio> ,
[05:05] <adenicio> ?
[05:05] <stdin> !tar
[05:05] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:06] <x_link> Dr_willis: FrostWire works though. But not LimeWire
[05:06] <x_link> Really odd.
[05:07] <adenicio>  stdin:yes i know it cant be open by ark but when i try to convert to deb it fails.so i want to know how to install the files wa in the .tar
[05:08] <Assid> hrmm i should make the iso from this dvd and mount it..
[05:08] <stdin> adenicio: convert what to deb?
[05:08] <Assid> i cant keep running after the disc everytime it needs sometihng
[05:08] <adenicio> stdin: the files wa in the tar compres folder
[05:10] <stdin> adenicio: what are you trying to install?
[05:10] <mcd> Hi newbie here, how do I copy a wallpaper to usr/share/wallper - Konqueror says access denied - help.......
[05:11] <stdin> mcd: why do you need to?
[05:11] <adenicio> stdin: samba
[05:11] <stdin> adenicio: samba is in the repositories
[05:11] <mcd> like one i found
[05:11] <runlevelten> mcd, you can just copy to your user's own wallpaper folder, y'know :)
[05:12] <Assid> err what libraries do i need to get k3b to support mp3 ? it says mad mp3 decoding library.. i did that but still same issue
[05:12] <stdin> mcd: you don't need to, just navigate to the directory you saved the image and choose it
[05:12] <mcd> yes tried that but said access denied would not let me
[05:12] <runlevelten> just copy it to your home folder's .kde/share/wallpapers
[05:12] <stdin> Assid: libk3b2-mp3
[05:13] <runlevelten>  /usr/share/wallpaper is not your user's wallpaper folder. It is the system-wide wallpaper folder :)
[05:13] <mcd> newbie here not sure how to do that - sorry
[05:13] <runlevelten> point konqueror to this :
[05:13] <Assid> thanks stdin
[05:13] <runlevelten> ~/.kde/share/wallpapers
[05:13] <Assid> i need some new wallpapers :(
[05:13] <BluesKaj> Assid: and for mp3 om Amarok : sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:14] <BluesKaj> on
[05:14] <runlevelten> if it doesn't exist, point it at ~/.kde/share and create a new directory called wallpapers :)
[05:14] <Assid> BluesKaj: yeah got amarok working already
[05:14] <BluesKaj> cool
[05:14] <Assid> thanks
[05:14] <adenicio> stdin: it takes 2h to download and install i dont have dsl.and when i reaches to the part it install adept does crash so im not shore if the thing i download does be workin properly
[05:14] <runlevelten> you can usually just right click on the image and choose use as wallpaper you know :)
[05:14] <Assid> err.. k3b can make iso files right?
[05:14] <mcd> so how do i point konqueror to :
[05:15] <runlevelten> mcd: ~/.kde/share/wallpapers
[05:15] <slobodan> hi there
[05:15] <mcd> runleveten - will try that thx
[05:15] <runlevelten> mcd: if it doesn't exist, point it at ~/.kde/share and create a new directory called wallpapers :)
[05:15] <trekdanne> !hi | slobodan
[05:15] <ubotu> slobodan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:15] <runlevelten> np :)
[05:15] <stdin> adenicio: the file you downloaded is probably a source package anyway, so you'd have to compile it. just open konsole and type in "sudo apt-get install samba"
[05:16] <slobodan> can someone help me with the internet connection problem...
[05:16] <mcd> runlevelten - the rt/clk set as wall... worked thx much
[05:17] <Assid> how do i get k3b to make an iso ???
[05:17] <runlevelten> mcd: good stuff. :)
[05:17] <adenicio> stdin: i hate to wait 2hour for something to download.i have the pakage from the web site samba there i just cant install it insted of waiting 2h for samba to download and install.and it cant even crash on me
[05:17] <mcd> yup - i'm through with windozzzzzeeee
[05:17] <runlevelten> I use the .kde/share/wallpapers to link to my wallpaper cache on new installations
[05:17] <stdin> Assid: tell it to only make an iso, when you go to burn it
[05:17] <Assid> only create image ?
[05:17] <mcd> great
[05:17] <Assid> okay i think thats it
[05:18] <mcd> would like to learn more about using konsole any suggestions or sites you like?
[05:18] <runlevelten> adenicio: so you downloaded it to compile and configure manually, to save yourself the trouble of downloading it to install and configure automatically?
[05:18] <runlevelten> adenicio: I like your thinking, my man.
[05:18] <runlevelten> ;P
[05:18] <slobodan> Konqueror, kmail and akregator are acting like there is no internet connection, but I am connected (like you see :) ) and other programs like adept firefox kopete are working fine. Does anyone seems to know what the problem is?
[05:19] <stdin> adenicio: if you've already downloaded it in adept then you won't have to download it again, and like I said; you will have downloaded the source, so you'd have to download the compiling tools and dependencies anyway
[05:19] <trekdanne> mcd: Linux Documentation Project got some good bash introductions IIRC
[05:19] <pag> slobodan, knetworkmanager.  (ok, I'm not sure - but it has caused problems like that)
[05:19] <Assid> brilliant.. now if only the same fonts would be used for peoples website.. it wont look squashed
[05:19] <Assid> somehow arial looks sucky on X
[05:19] <adenicio> runlevelten: i download samba by a friend on xp wa take 2mn.and to install a file manualy will help me who is a begingner to understand surtain things
[05:20] <mcd> trekdanne - will do a googlle at google.com/linux thx
[05:20] <runlevelten> mcd, the shell is called "bash". There are loads of great howtos and tutorials if you google :)
[05:20] <runlevelten> mcd, and some not so good. If you find one doesn't make sense to you, try another one.
[05:20] <mcd> sweet - that's what i'm talk'n about
[05:20] <adenicio> runlevelten: sorry for the bad speling im not so good in riten english
[05:20] <slobodan> @pag I tried to connect thru kppp and knetworkmanager too but it's the same... do U mean to turn it off?
[05:21] <adenicio> pag:i download nintendo ds emulator where did it go to im not seing it
[05:21] <pag> slobodan, exactly
[05:21] <adenicio> pleas
[05:21] <mcd> i luv this stuff - it's fun again on a computer... :o)
[05:21] <runlevelten> mcd: that is *exactly* it.
[05:21] <pag> adenicio, I have no idea at all - tried konsole already?
[05:22] <runlevelten> gnu/linux = fun computing.
[05:22] <adenicio> mcd:tru but head breakin when somethings dont work and u just want to break your pc :-)
[05:22] <adenicio> pag: how u do it wit konsole?
[05:22] <runlevelten> adenicio: I see, you want to investigate, well I can't argue with that :)
[05:22] <mcd> yup - but i think it will be well worth it in long haul
[05:23] <runlevelten> adenicio: it's not the quickest way to a waorking setup today though, you know that, right?
[05:23] <runlevelten> *working.
[05:23] <slobodan> PAG U R my MAN! :) ... sorry for shouting................  f*c!?ng knetworkmanager!
[05:23] <mcd> ya know what they say - some things you gotta work at you appreciate more
[05:23] <runlevelten> mcd: Set it up right, it'll tend to work for a very very long time.
[05:23] <pag> adenicio, " which $packagename " tells what's the name of binary, then simply run the binaty
[05:24] <runlevelten> I know of systems still running without issue that I set up in 1996.
[05:24] <runlevelten> Not like web servers or something though, heh.
[05:24] <mcd> i can think of allot of negatives about windows compared to linux - one for sure is being able to be on the net without worring about spyware etc.
[05:24] <slobodan> pag U have beer from me ;)
[05:25] <adenicio> runlevelten: yeah but if something goes wrong(we all know feisty is not stabale)yesterday adep wasnt working n i didnt had synaptic so if i needed it i willl atlese know how to instal it manualy
[05:25] <adenicio> :)
[05:25] <renato> hello everyone, I installed firefox a while ago (feisty), but everytime I want to upload something, say a picture to a website I get the lousy Ubuntu file manager thing, and I want it to open the one that konqueror does, which shows previews of photos and everything, anyone any thoughs on how to change that behavior in firefiox?
[05:25] <pag> slobodan, then you'd go to jail - I'm not 18 yet ;) But thank you for the nice thought :)
[05:26] <pag> slobodan, it's nice to hear everything is working now :)
[05:26] <mcd> cya ya all thx for the help
[05:26] <runlevelten> later mcd - have fun
[05:26] <trekdanne> renato: unfortunately i think there is no way to do that
[05:26] <mcd> you too - its great out here
[05:26] <slobodan> @pag... well in some countries beer are categorised as FOOD :)
[05:27] <runlevelten> adenicio: I'm not sure feisty is particularly unstable, but then I am incredibly anally retentive about looking after my systems.
[05:27] <renato> I was under the impresion that it was different back when I had dapper trekdanne, or is it just me?
[05:27] <runlevelten> adenicio: I appreciate and completely applaud that you want to investigate and learn. 10 points to you, sir. xD
[05:27] <stdin> renato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110353 :)
[05:28] <runlevelten> adenicio: have you successfully extracted the contents of the tarball?
[05:28] <adenicio> runlevelten: tarball???wa is that?
[05:28] <renato> ahhhhh, thanks a lot stdin, just what I was looking for
[05:29] <trekdanne> however those are just tricks to get gtk looking kde-ish
[05:29] <runlevelten> you said you had a .tar file.
[05:29] <stdin> renato: no prob :)
[05:29] <renato> see, I knew it was possible
[05:29] <renato> cool
[05:29] <runlevelten> that's a tarball
[05:29] <stdin> adenicio: tar = tarball
[05:29] <trekdanne> renato: ah my bad
[05:29] <adenicio> runlevelten: i'll be back going to look for my bleutoot to try the wiimote on linux :)
[05:29] <runlevelten> heh. OK
[05:30] <harmental> hey guys...why is the logoff screen so ugly?? is there any way to change it?
[05:31] <Ahmuck> ! dev
[05:31] <ubotu> Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[05:32] <Ahmuck> i essentials
[05:32] <Ahmuck> ! essentials
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Ahmuck> ! source
[05:32] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:32] <Ahmuck> ! build
[05:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:39] <trekdanne> hmm what are your opinions on debian-based livecds/livedvds? is knoppix still best?
[05:41] <ksivaji> echo \n is not able to break a line please tell me is there any other command to break line
[05:43] <pag> ksivaji, echo -e "test \ntest"
[05:43] <trekdanne> echo with arguments should do the trick too
[05:43] <trekdanne> without i mean
[05:45] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:46] <ksivaji> pag great
[05:46] <runlevelten> whose oponions trekdanne?
[05:47] <trekdanne> livecds
[05:47] <Assid> searchbar ?
[05:47] <chaKKo_1521> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=1521
[05:49] <exyan> anyone got any suggjestions on fonts? cause they look very sharp and all :/
[05:49] <Assid>  exyan anti aliasing
[05:49] <Assid> !antialias
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about antialias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <Assid> !antialiasing
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about antialiasing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <Assid> !anti aliasing
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anti aliasing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <Assid> sorry
[05:49] <exyan> Assid: I have antialiasing enabled..
[05:49] <Assid> try a different font
[05:50] <Assid> like sans-serif
[05:50] <trekdanne> hmm try winttf fonts
[05:50] <exyan> that is the font I'm using
[05:50] <Assid> arial looks crappy with me
[05:50] <runlevelten> freetype2 with sub-pixel hinting ftw.
[05:50] <exyan> is there a way to get win fonts?
[05:50] <Assid> too darn thing
[05:50] <Assid> exyan: msttfcore
[05:50] <Assid> runlevelten: how do i check its running ttf2?
[05:50] <Blissex> exyan: sharp fonts are good, if they are well shaped.
[05:51] <runlevelten> yeah. Pull them out of a windows Fonts folder using KDE font installer from kcontrol, or download the ms core fonts package.
[05:51] <Assid> arial and helvetica both look crap for me
[05:51] <Blissex> Assid: exyan: anyhow have a look at http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxFonts.html
[05:51] <exyan> Blissex: they're ugly ;) and mess up some websites
[05:51] <adenicio> runlevelten: the ballthing u was talkin about?
[05:52] <Assid> bbl
[05:54] <runlevelten> assid - you'll be able to enable anti-aliasing in kcontrol
[05:55] <cplusplus> whats that mkfs.ext2: invalid fragment size - /dev/hda3 ?
[05:57] <Blissex> cplusplus: that means you did not pass the right options. You cannot specify a fragment size.
[05:57] <cplusplus> but is did the same for xfs and jfs and it worked!!!
[05:57] <cplusplus> i did mkfs.ext2 -f /dev/hda3
[05:58] <llutz> cplusplus: fragment size is missing
[05:58] <cplusplus> why is mkfs.xfs -f /dev/hda3 working?
[05:59] <llutz> cplusplus: read the corresponding man-pages
[05:59] <llutz> cplusplus: what do you expect "-f" to do?
[06:00] <runlevelten> Someone asked to see the Kmenu searchbar, here's a shot of it: http://www.mediafire.com/?1mdt2xyjx4d
[06:00] <runlevelten> What you can't see. is that it expands the menus as you type.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> its gotten to a point where we have so many program icons. we have to have search features now...
[06:03] <Dr_willis> does any one else just use a minimal menu, and launch most stuff from a terminal  like i do? :)
[06:03] <runlevelten> I have decided to install about 300 programs I might like to see in my GUI with my OS.
[06:03] <slasko> anyone know how to make permissions to a second hdd, to be able to wirte to it?
[06:04] <runlevelten> I do not want anyone to remove them arbitrarily.  NTFS maybe?
[06:04] <slasko> im on ubuntu server with desktop installed, hdd is ext3
[06:05] <nicolai_> Dr_willis: But I do this by uninstalling things if they aren't 'critical', meaning if I do not really use them.
[06:05] <llutz> slasko: use chown/chmod to set permission
[06:05] <nicolai_> Dr_willis: I would probably use ALT + F2 instead of Konsole, though.
[06:06] <runlevelten> Good quote from someone in another project this morning. "you are not supposed to change things.. noone does that.. noone needs that - usability people know what you like"
[06:06] <Dr_willis> i always got a konsole open with ssh sessions to the various machines on my lan
[06:06] <nicolai_> runlevelten: what project and what context? :)
[06:06] <slasko> hmm? what should i write? chown hdb something?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Im betting chown /dev/hdb is NOT what you are wanting to do..
[06:07] <Dr_willis> slasko,  for my 'data' drives i make a directory In them for the users and chown that dir.
[06:07] <runlevelten> KDE. Discussing removal of options as a lazy method of improving a UI.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> they dont need, or have access to the 'root' of the drive..
[06:07] <Dr_willis> BRB...
[06:08] <slasko> ok but i can not make directorys on this hdd
[06:09] <slasko> under permisions the owner is unknown
[06:09] <ksivaji> is it possible to convert openoffice,org word file into pdf file ?
[06:09] <pag> ksivaji, OOo Writer has "import to PDF" feature
[06:10] <runlevelten> nicolai_: The concept is simple. If someone has lots of apps on their system because they want lots of apps on their system, arbitrarily removing some from their menus is not improvement.
[06:10] <runlevelten> nicolai_: It's basically a bit mean.
[06:10] <runlevelten> Anyway.
[06:11] <nicolai_> runlevelten: Ahh. I was just explaining how I did it, not how anyone else should.
[06:13] <runlevelten> nicolai_: Ooh, I didn't think you were suggesting that! :D I just think it's important to remember that you don't improve an interface by removing options.
[06:13] <runlevelten> You improve an interface by improving its consistency, and its design, and testing it for usability on the public.
[06:13] <llutz> runlevelten: tell that to gnome-freaks :)
[06:14] <nicolai_> runlevelten: Personally I think a system has to be flexible, it should aim for a basic configuratio, but if it breaks due to user input, then something is wrong. I might not be a fixable wrong but it is still wrong.
[06:14] <runlevelten> So I feel it necessary to comment on the "many options are bad" assumption, because it begs the question.
[06:14] <jhutchins> ksivaji: Look under the File menu.
[06:15] <runlevelten> anyway, back on topic I guess :)
[06:15] <ksivaji> pag jhutchins ya i got it thank you
[06:15] <Dr_willis> slasko,  you make the initial dir with sudo mkdir storage
[06:16] <Dr_willis> then you can chown the 'storage' dir to be owned by whoever
[06:16] <nicolai_> runlevelten: Discussing KDE isn't completely offtopic though.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> slasko,  this IS a ext3 filesystem drive?
[06:16] <runlevelten> Ah, chattr!
[06:16] <jhutchins> I believe the proper way to set ownership of a mounted device is either with the mount command or in fstab.
[06:17] <jhutchins> I think we're doing a pretty good job of getting non-kde apps to appear in the menus.  It's not perfect yet, but it's better than it used to be.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> I never have figured out how to make a 'whole' disk owned by a user,  i always just make a directorym then chown that. Just as good. :) keeps the lost+found hidden from the user.
[06:17] <nicolai_> jhutchins: the chown command?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> you do not 'chown' a mount point normally.
[06:18] <jhutchins> nicolai_: No, the mount command or fstab.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <ardchoille> wolferine: lol
[06:18] <wolferine> :)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> now you are 'bald largest member of the weasle faimly'
[06:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:19] <jhutchins> I know fat32/vfat allows a user and group to be defined at mount.
[06:19] <llutz> jhutchins: unix-fs use unix-rights, so why should one use mount-command to handle that?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> yea for ext2/3 and other linux fs's - it needs to be handled by the fs.
[06:20] <vge> !ssh
[06:20] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:20] <exyan> mkay, what fonts r u guys using ;p?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I got the vista fonts installed.. Heh. :)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> and about 10000 other fonts
[06:22] <exyan> Dr_willis: could I pm u :)?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> exyan,  why? :) theres scripts for linux that let ya get the vista fonts. :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> http://plasmasturm.org/log/457/
[06:22] <exyan> mkay nvm, can you just get me through :)?
[06:23] <exyan> what should I apt-get and where to config ;);
[06:24] <nicolai_> Dr_willis: I had a problem where a backup of data made using the live-cd couldn't be edited because rights were given to 999 Ubuntu insted of 1000 Me. I've also tried than an external NTFS harddrive only allowed root to edit, because a friend had formatted it in Windows. What should I have done besides chown in those circumstances?
[06:25] <jhutchins> aptitude install msttcorefonts gsfonts gsfonts-x11
[06:25] <Dr_willis> with a ntfs drive you 'cant' chown the files. you must mount them with the proper permissions
[06:25] <Dr_willis> you could easially chown the files on a linux partition
[06:26] <exyan> jhutchins: but how do I get those fonts to show up in kde :)?
[06:26] <jhutchins> exyan: Restart KDE, go to kcontrol and choose them.
[06:27] <vbhide> how do i install grid wars?
[06:27] <exyan> jhutchins: @ the fonts settings visa 'adjust all fonts' ?
[06:28] <jhutchins> exyan: Do you want me to shell in and do it for you or somethint?
[06:28] <exyan> jhutchins: I just want some directions :)
[06:28] <jhutchins> exyan: Directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:29] <nicolai_> Dr_willis: it used automount, and my external harddrive, which is exactly the same LACIE drive besides his wentures with formatting, worked without root access. I didn't use chown then, but what other issue than permissions would have made it necessary to use sudo to copy a file to a harddisk?
[06:29] <exyan> jhutchins: I don't want to install em, I wanna select em, I got em installed ;)
[06:29] <jhutchins> ... although finding your way to Appearance & Themes, Fonts doesn't seem that hard.
[06:29] <nicolai_> Both were NTFS
[06:29] <Dr_willis> nicolai_,  it all depends pn how they get mounted. you could of unmounted/remounted them
[06:30] <exyan> jhutchins: I did ask you if it's 'adjust all fonts'
[06:30] <Dr_willis> mount would of told ya how they were mounted and with what options
[06:30] <Dr_willis> http://web1.piripiri202.webperoni.de/dau/AeroConcept.rar           - has the vista fonts and a theme/thang for windows xp if ya want to look like a vista box. :)
[06:30] <exyan> jhutchins: I just dunno which to select, that's all
[06:31] <nicolai_> Dr_willis: Just the same plug it in, expect it to work rutine on a fresh install back in may. I hadn't configured anything.
[06:31] <jhutchins> exyan: Well fer goodness sake, try it and see.  I don't actually know what you are trying to achieve.
[06:31] <nicolai_> But I guess I must be missing something
[06:31] <vbhide> anyone knows how to install/run grid wars? theres this zip package to download, cant make any sense of it
[06:32] <exyan> jhutchins: I'm trying to achieve decent looking fonts ;) and as I installed the ms ones, I just wanna know which one(s) to select
[06:32] <exyan> jhutchins: I just dunno the name ^^
[06:32] <jhutchins> vbhide: If it's an actual .zip file, it's probably a windows program, and you'll have to install & run it under wine.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with external ntfs drives. :) so cant tell ya more other then 'whein in doubt do it by hand'
[06:32] <Dr_willis> exyan,  be sure to enable the font smoothing, and antialiasing features asso
[06:33] <Dr_willis> and if a lcd. enable that other feature for lcd's
[06:33] <vbhide> ok.... thanks!
[06:33] <jhutchins> exyan: How would I know the name of a microsoft font that would look good by your standards?  I'm pretty happy with the ones that are default in Mandriva and Ubuntu.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> I tend to use large 16+ sized fonts. they all look ok then. :)
[06:33] <jhutchins> exyan: The main reason I have microsoft fonts installed is for web pages that call specific microsoft fonts.
[06:33] <exyan> Dr_willis: font smoothing = antialiasing..? and the lcd thingy = sub-pixel rendering?
[06:33] <runlevelten> exyan: scroll through the list, reading the names. If the names look like they might be one of the ones you installed, try them and see if they look good.
[06:34] <runlevelten> then close kcontrol.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> exyan,  yep. theres several dozen web sites with other tips to make it all look better
[06:34] <Dr_willis> gota go. bbl
[06:34] <jhutchins> exyan: I have a lot of other fonts installed because I do web pages and printed stuff that I like to have a large selection for.
[06:34] <vbhide> its called gridwars_lin and wine can't handle it
[06:34] <exyan> m ;)
[06:34] <runlevelten> why would you run it in wine?
[06:35] <jhutchins> exyan: The only way I can imagine is for you to try various fonts, or use the font manager to preview them.
[06:35] <jhutchins> runlevelten: He said it was a zip file.
[06:35] <runlevelten> jhutchins: that's why to open it in wine?
[06:36] <runlevelten> vbhide: unzip it using unzip from a shell, or by opening it in ark in kde
[06:36] <runlevelten> then you can enter the firectory it creates and run the game :)
[06:36] <jhutchins> runlevelten: Well, *.zip files are usually windows files, but there are plenty of exceptions.
[06:36] <jhutchins> runlevelten: For all I know it's a .tar.gz
[06:36] <vbhide> i figured it out....... just had to extract the files to a folder before running the app. inside
[06:36] <runlevelten> Lots of exceptions for games, jhutchins
[06:37] <runlevelten> lots and lots and lots :)
[06:37] <runlevelten> cd gridwars_lin; ./gridwars
[06:38] <runlevelten> jhutchins: It should be tar.gz, but will people listen?
[06:38] <jhutchins> runlevelten: Could be just .gz too.
[06:39] <adenicio> wa u talkin about?
[06:39] <runlevelten> dammit vbhide, now you got me starting gridwars :)
[06:40] <adenicio> adept is not crashin on me no more. y :-D  .BUT FOR HOW LONG :-/
[06:40] <adenicio> feisty is like the 360
[06:41] <Insane`KDE> Anybody know of a good DVD player I can use to play some movies?
[06:41] <adenicio> gives a lot of prob
[06:41] <runlevelten> Insane`KDE: I use kaffeine
[06:41] <Insane`KDE> I wonder if oh-so-crappy kaffeine manages to play it, hang on
[06:41] <adenicio> Insane`KDE: ??? ps3
[06:41] <runlevelten> kaffeine isn't crappy in the least. Kaffeine is excellent.
[06:42] <Insane`KDE> Then why doesn't it play a single mpg for me? I tried configuring it with online guides for hours to do so, and it never worked. I had to download VLC to watch them
[06:42] <adenicio> yes it is
[06:43] <runlevelten> I don't know what this vlc thing is all about. I have no problems with any kind of video I encounter except DRM'd stuff, and I use mplayer, xine and realplayer, and various associated front ends.
[06:43] <contrast83> Kaffeine gives me the "unable to open resource" message 90% of the time I try to play a DVD with it. :-\
[06:43] <MaTiAz> adenicio: How come my 360 has been running absolutely fine ever since launch? :)
[06:43] <runlevelten> User error, and that's flat.
[06:43] <Insane`KDE> And tadaa! "Kaffeine couldn't find a plugin to handle this resource"
[06:43] <adenicio> runlevelten: i put samba to download with dept since i went to look for my bluethoot it just reach half way another hour to go
[06:43] <contrast83> err, yeah, the one Insane`KDE just said
[06:43] <runlevelten> Kaffeine is a front end, you realise that, right?
[06:44] <Insane`KDE> runlevelten: I open up mpgs, and it just gives me a black screen with nos ound and zips through the movie at varying random speeds
[06:44] <contrast83> yeah
[06:44] <runlevelten> So you have to set up video playback, then you use kaffeine to control it, to stream it across the network etc.
[06:44] <runlevelten> !codecs
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <Insane`KDE> I downloaded the codecs for mpg
[06:44] <ardchoille> Insane`KDE: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:44] <vbhide> unable to calculate tex size
[06:44] <vbhide> what's that?
[06:44] <runlevelten> Insane`KDE: You need libdvdcss to play dvds
[06:45] <runlevelten> !dvd
[06:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:45] <Sinistral_> !samba
[06:45] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:45] <ardchoille> Insane`KDE: you need libxine-extracodecs to play mpegs
[06:45] <adenicio> MaTiAz: lucky man im on my seconde 360 it died again my friends own just dieing too giving prob
[06:45] <adenicio> MaTiAz: vive la ps3
[06:45] <adenicio> MaTiAz: with linux
[06:46] <MaTiAz> adenicio: Ugh, did you know that 360 and PS3 were benchmarked in Linux and 360 ranked as 3x more powerful?
[06:46] <Insane`KDE> "Package libdvdcss has no installation candidate" What's the correct name?
[06:47] <MaTiAz> Insane`KDE: You need to enable medibuntu repos, it's not in the official ones
[06:48] <runlevelten> MaTiAz: Define "benchmarked", please.
[06:49] <MaTiAz> runlevelten: The guy who told me that (Mathieulh, a respected PSP hacker) didn't give any more information though :|
[06:49] <Insane`KDE> !medibuntu
[06:49] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[06:49] <MaTiAz> runlevelten: But you can speak to him over at irc.malloc.us if you want :)
[06:50] <runlevelten> Yes. I've heard numerous claims, none of them has been substantiated yet.
[06:50] <pc01> fgfrf
[06:50] <pc01> fghff
[06:50] <pc01> trytyt
[06:50] <pc01> rtryt
[06:50] <pc01> ug
[06:50] <pc01> gj
[06:50] <pc01> j
[06:50] <pc01> j
[06:51] <runlevelten> With what's available as of yet, I doubt any of them _can_ be.
[06:51] <Eeyore-Jr> is there someone that could bundle sharp construct for *buntu?
[06:52] <aldin> hi, is it possible to change hdd rpms, now i have 7200 and would like it to change on 5400 rpms?
[06:52] <adenicio> PSP???
[06:53] <adenicio> IS THE BEST
[06:53] <adenicio> aldin: wa is the dif?
[06:55] <Biovore> aldin: you can't change the rpms on the drive.. you can put most drives into a low power state though..
[06:56] <aldin> ok, thanks
[06:57] <aldin> adenicio, ?
[06:58] <Dragnslcr> Why you would want to lower the rotational speed of a hard drive?
[06:59] <Dragnslcr> Er, why would you
[07:00] <Biovore> ^ save power
[07:00] <Biovore> 5400 rpm drives you can run of USB with out a extern power supply..
[07:01] <llutz> Biovore: nearly none of all those 3,5" hdd are usable on USB without extra power
[07:01] <adenicio> how to change the count down for the grub.its the count down to choose beetwent xp and unix
[07:01] <adenicio> how to change the count down for the grub.its the count down to choose beetwent xp and unix
[07:01] <llutz> Biovore: they all need more than 500mA, which is too much for USB
[07:01] <adenicio> how to change the count down for the grub.its the count down to choose beetwent xp and unix
[07:02] <fdoving> !repeat | adenicio
[07:02] <ubotu> adenicio: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:02] <NickPresta> adenicio, edit your menu.lst
[07:02] <llutz> adenicio: change "timeout" parameter in menu.lst
[07:02] <fdoving> adenicio: edit /boot/grub/menu.list and look for what llutz explains.
[07:03] <adenicio> im not alow
[07:03] <thechris> I need help installing kubuntu wo CD
[07:03] <fdoving> adenicio: you need to do that with root/sudo permissions.
[07:03] <thechris> is the installer contained on the initrd?
[07:03] <llutz> adenicio: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <adenicio> cant chaige it just like that i chainge it once the first time i install feisty now i forgot
[07:04] <fdoving> adenicio: for example, kmenu -> run command 'kdesu -- kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <Insane`KDE> runlevelten: Kaffeine gives me "Error reading file: file is empty", even when running as root, but another dvd player ogle, runs it fine without any errors
[07:04] <Insane`KDE> runlevelten: And yes, I installed the dvd codec you told me to install
[07:04] <jhutchins> fdoving: Clearly we need a point-and-click grub configurator.
[07:05] <fdoving> jhutchins: nah, i don't consider that a high priority-issue. most people never change anything there. just like most people rarely edit boot.ini on windows systems.
[07:06] <fdoving> jhutchins: by the way.. mhb started a python-project with that in mind. not sure how the progress is.
[07:06] <ardchoille> jhutchins: Well, it's trivial to make a launcher for "kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst", but people need to know they can do that, yeah.
[07:06] <jhutchins> Insane`KDE: Some players work better with a wider variety of files than others do.
[07:06] <contrast83> hrmm... if you're not comfortable editing text files/using a CLI, you *probably* shouldn't be messing with the program responsible for booting your machine. :-\
[07:06] <jhutchins> ardchoille: Oh no, I think we need a GUI with a slider to set boot delay time.
[07:06] <jhutchins> ardchoille: At least a picklist.
[07:06] <NickPresta> jhutchins, lol.
[07:06] <Insane`KDE> OH well, I'll just give it a rest trying to get Kaffein to actually play a majoraty of files, and keep using vlc
[07:07] <contrast83> jhutchins: are you umm... joking? :-)
[07:07] <jhutchins> contrast83: Could be.
[07:07] <runlevelten> Insane`KDE: Whatever works for you.
[07:07] <contrast83> good stuff :-P
[07:07] <Azzco> Does anyone know where to get sourcecode or 86_64 packages for kickoff?
[07:07] <jhutchins> contrast83: Still, it seems like it would be fairly trivial to scan the boot directory for various kernels, have radio buttons to select boot options, a slider for delay...
[07:07] <jhutchins> contrast83: You'd also have to scan the available partitions, mounted & not, for other bootable systems.
[07:08] <thechris> jhutchins: info grub.  the boot delay time, failover, and default options, among other things, are configurable
[07:08] <runlevelten> jhutchins: like yast, then?
[07:08] <jhutchins> runlevelten: Dunno, I ran screaming from SuSE ca. Mandriva 9.
[07:08] <adenicio> fdoving: tanks
[07:08] <runlevelten> ( which does far less than work perfectly with grub, heh )
[07:09] <runlevelten> I went from Debian to SuSE. I know, I'm a loon.
[07:09] <NickPresta> runlevelten, I did that too. I hated SuSE
[07:09] <jhutchins> I much prefer text configuration myself, and having to know what you're doing from reading manpages and commented conf files, but as long as we're doing so much with the GUI instead, might as well do grub.
[07:10] <contrast83> i hold to my last statement.
[07:10] <kalorin`> I've had several times lately when Grub sort of forgets the labels on the partitions or something, finally I ditched that stuff and just put /dev/sda2 as / in the config and now it works fine
[07:10] <runlevelten> I just wanted something less broken than RH, with very up-to-date, well QC'd binary packages. Debian only really failed me on one point there
[07:10] <sk_> hello world)))
[07:11] <sk_> From russia ?
[07:11] <kalorin`> with love?
[07:11] <jhutchins> runlevelten: RPM based systems are structurally different from debian based ones.
[07:11] <runlevelten> perfectly capable of packaging things myself, but there came a point with debian where I was building everything I wanted, and its deps,  from source - may as well have been using LFS by then, heh
[07:12] <runlevelten> jhutchins: Not massively, tbh.
[07:12] <thechris> so, anyone know about the ubuntu installer?
[07:12] <contrast83> thechris: what do you need to know?
[07:12] <runlevelten> there's still the odd gotcha though, heh
[07:12] <thechris> contrast83: is the installer included on the initrd?
[07:12] <jhutchins> runlevelten: Oh, I think so.  No real runlevels, network config's different, no SysV init in debian...
[07:13] <thechris> as my CD rom drive has failed
[07:13] <runlevelten> jhutchins: you still running lilo? good man
[07:13] <thechris> and i have grub, but not a cd
[07:13] <runlevelten>  /woman
[07:13] <pag> sk_, #ubuntu-ru for Russian discussion
[07:13] <contrast83> umm... not sure. sorry :-\
[07:13] <Azzco> thechris: a quick google gave me this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/
[07:13] <jhutchins> You betcha.  Until grub can set a temporary selection for the next boot, I'll stick with lilo -R <option>; shutdown -r now.
[07:13] <ksivaji> is any know how many architecture that ubuntu supports ?
[07:13] <contrast83> thechris: you might google around online for installing it via a network. i've seen a few articles on that
[07:14] <jhutchins> !install
[07:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:14] <contrast83> ksivaji: 2 - 32 and 64 bit.
[07:15] <jhutchins> contrast83: PPC too I think.
[07:15] <contrast83> jhutchins: which release?
[07:15] <jhutchins> contrast83: Not sure, recent discussions.
[07:15] <contrast83> i know feisty's not on ppc
[07:15] <jhutchins> contrast83: Must be that other distro then.
[07:19] <morphinex> hey folks, I'm looking for a utility that can join avi files I downloaded from usenet
[07:20] <NickPresta> morphinex, if they are identical, I suppose you could do something like: `cat movie1.avi movie2.avi > movie3.avi`
[07:20] <jhutchins> morphinex: I recommend avidemux2.
[07:20] <thechris> i wonder if cat would work?
[07:20] <thechris> i guess not
[07:21] <morphinex> I have avidemux, it seems like overkill, and I don't know how to use it ;)
[07:21] <thechris> unless it ignores headers in the middle of the movie
[07:22] <morphinex> also, avidemux failes to open the files!
[07:22] <morphinex> they are named whatever.avi.001 whatever.avi.002 whatever.avi.003 and so on
[07:22] <tfreire_> morphinex: emerge lxsplit
[07:23] <thechris> morphinex: try cat `ls whatever.avi.*` > newavi.avi
[07:23] <exyan> tfreire_: too much into gentoo?
[07:23] <morphinex> heh, is there a .deb of that?
[07:24] <tfreire_> morphinex: then lxsplit -j yourpornmoviedividedinsmallparts.avi.001
[07:24] <thechris> morphinex: the cat command i listed will also do this
[07:24] <exyan> tfreire_: u know there's no portage in kubuntu :P
[07:25] <tfreire_> exyan: yeah, I think so.
[07:25] <tfreire_> yeah, I have the gentoo forum open, I mixed both :)
[07:25] <tfreire_> it's a pretty trivial program though, hassle-free to compile
[07:26] <tfreire_> (gentoo irc i mean)
[07:27] <server_> guys how can i get access to everything on my drive it wont let me change nothing and i am log on admin any clue
[07:27] <wolferine> what can you use to convert to mp4, to put video on an ipod?
[07:27] <server_> mp4 is ipod
[07:28] <wolferine> mp4 is an extension :P
[07:28] <aaroncampbell> Are there other people having problems with the eclipse from the repos not working?
[07:28] <tfreire_> wolferine: avidemux
[07:28] <server_> guys how can i get access to everything on my drive it wont let me change nothing and i am log on admin any clue plz help me i want to configure files and i need access
[07:28] <wolferine> thanks
[07:28] <NickPresta> wolferine, you can use ffmpeg/mencoder.
[07:28] <wolferine> so tovid?
[07:29] <tfreire_> server_: sudo vim /path/to/file
[07:30] <server_> im on desktop kubuntu need to configure files and it says acess denied and im log on the main acconte
[07:30] <wolferine> server_, as root?
[07:30] <server_> yes
[07:30] <wolferine> gksudo
[07:30] <tfreire_> or kdesu
[07:31] <server_> where to find it
[07:31] <tfreire_> It's already installed
[07:31] <wolferine> server_, u want to edit the command
[07:31] <wolferine> and add the gksudo in front of it
[07:31] <server_> i want to edit files and configure it manual
[07:32] <tfreire_> run from the terminal of from the 'execu in the start menu
[07:32] <wolferine> server_, what?
[07:32] <dsmith_> who makes decent 1u servers for < $1K
[07:32] <server_> i dont no even how to edit in terminal
[07:33] <wolferine> server_, what?
[07:33] <wolferine> edit what?
[07:33] <server_> moodle files
[07:33] <tfreire_> server_: suppose you want to edit /etc/fstab; press alt+F2 to open the run commman dialog, type 'kdesu kate /etc/fstab' <enter>
[07:33] <wolferine> moodle?
[07:33] <wolferine> what is moodle?
[07:33] <wolferine> !moodle
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moodle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <server_> moodle is mail server
[07:33] <wolferine> hahah
[07:33] <wolferine> good luck
[07:34] <tfreire_> it's the same for any file with root privleges, or to run any program as root
[07:34] <server_> it running i just need to add my user and password to the config file but when i try to save it give me acess denied
[07:34] <wolferine> if (!able_to_edit_configs) { cannot run a mail server for sure } else { might get lucky }
[07:36] <jhutchins> server_: Start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:36] <server_> k thx
[07:37] <StoneNewt> is there anyway to get amarok to play .aac/.m4a files?
[07:38] <morphinex> hey thanks for the help, once i finally found and compiled lxsplit it worked fine
[07:38] <jhutchins> StoneNewt: It should play 'em fine if you have the codecs installed.
[07:39] <runlevelten> faad2 i believe
[07:39] <StoneNewt> libfaad-0 is installed
[07:39] <runlevelten> mine plays them fine
[07:39] <runlevelten> !restrictedformats
[07:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:40] <jhutchins> runlevelten: I don't recall that anything in there explicitly addresses .aac.
[07:40] <Rapatapa> how to make Mplayer load DVD titles
[07:40] <runlevelten> does it not?
[07:40] <runlevelten> Oops, sorry :)
[07:40] <mcd> Hay there - trying to get sound to work on my Toshiba laptop - trying to edit - /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base - keeping running into a wall - tried running Konqueror as root - but line I want to add won't let me - Suggestions?
[07:40] <jhutchins> Eh, I'm wrong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/AAC
[07:41] <jhutchins> mcd: running konqueror as root == Bad Idea.
[07:41] <Rapatapa> can anyone halp me?
[07:41] <mcd> ok idea's ?
[07:41] <jhutchins> mcd: kdesu kedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[07:42] <[ifroog] > where could i find the changelog for every version update of the kernel ?
[07:42] <mcd> from  konsole?
[07:42] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : kernel.org
[07:42] <[ifroog] > thanks.
[07:42] <server_> ok i did kdesu konqueror and i wont show my files inn my drive why?
[07:42] <jhutchins> mcd: From console you can use vi, emacs, pico, nano, any text editor with sudo; any GUI editor from kdesu, or run the gui with kdesu from Alt-F2.
[07:43] <mcd> jhutchins - run line you said at Konsole window?
[07:43] <jhutchins> mcd: Try it.
[07:43] <mcd> kdesu is a gui?
[07:43] <fdoving> mcd: it pops up and asks for your password, yes.
[07:44] <jhutchins> mcd: kdesu is sudo for gui apps.
[07:44] <mcd> yup ok will give it shot - thx mucho'
[07:44] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[07:44] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[07:44] <mcd> oh ok thx - jhutchins
[07:44] <jhutchins> runlevelten: 1st corolary to Murphy's Law.
[07:44] <server_> kdesu konqueror and password in and no files show in my storage media drive
[07:45] <runlevelten> Oh, and phone batteries too. Great.
[07:45] <jhutchins> server_: Guess you're gonna have to give up and learn to use the console.
[07:46] <server_> i just to acess my media files that all i need to get
[07:46] <jhutchins> server_: Seriously, if you don't know how to work from the console, you aren't ready to run a mailserver.
[07:46] <server_> and get full priviledge
[07:47] <StoneNewt> gstreamer0-10 with thw bad plugins installed and no diffrence
[07:47] <nicolai_> runlevelten: I was lucky enough that my printer didn't die during the exam. It simply decided it was out of colour and therefore started printing red. :S
[07:49] <runlevelten> Damn. This will cost me work.
[07:51] <jhutchins> !fr | server_
[07:51] <ubotu> server_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:55] <intelikey> "shell down the bash!"    "some one bashed my shell"      "now; let's not start shell bashing!"
[07:56] <igkque> an it not be me?
[07:56] <igkque> god please find out who
[07:58] <dyingofrobbery0> do yu ever want to help me leatn anything intellikey?
[07:59] <dyingofrobbery0> do yu ever want to help me leatn anything intellikey?
[07:59] <dyingofrobbery0> learn i meant
[08:00] <intelikey> what ya interested in learning ?
[08:00] <dyingofrobbery1> how to destroy hackers
[08:00] <dyingofrobbery1> how to find out whos logged into me
[08:00] <intelikey> w
[08:00] <intelikey> who
[08:00] <intelikey> pstree
[08:01] <intelikey> learn those three    for starters
[08:01] <igkque> thanks
[08:01] <NickPresta> in addition, you want to use `last` and `users`
[08:02] <intelikey> and i find it better to lock the system than to just kill the client       but well get into that after you learn detection.
[08:02] <intelikey> NickPresta and tail /var/log/ssh*
[08:04] <dyingofrobbery1> thank you
[08:04] <Wikkon> why in kaffeine avi film works fine but in mplayer picture is delayed to the sound?
[08:05] <Biovore> Wikkon: try -idx as an mplayer option.. that happens because there is a timing error in the encoding file..  I think xine tracks it out correctly most of the time.. mplayer you have to tell it to reindex the file before playing..
[08:07] <[ifroog] > Is it save to load a kernel module of a previous version ?
[08:07] <StoneNewt> !restrictedformats
[08:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:08] <Wikkon> Biovore: i don't understand
[08:08] <Ahmuck> any motu devs here?
[08:08] <Wikkon> Biovore: what is -idx? where i must do that?
[08:09] <intelikey> NickPresta http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38691
[08:09] <intelikey> NickPresta would you say that's a little unusual?  :)
[08:09] <Biovore> I run mplayer from the command line ussualy..  I just toss that on the end of it..  Not sure what you would do in the gui's
[08:10] <NickPresta> intelikey, indeed :P
[08:10] <runlevelten> It is actually getting impossible to find technical manuals online because of how many SEO spammers *LIE* about having the info.
[08:10] <Biovore> yeah..
[08:10] <Biovore> I have noticed that as well..
[08:11] <Biovore> you have to know where to look..
[08:11] <yonahw> runlevelten: I feel your pain
[08:11] <runlevelten> These people stand between the person needing the support, and the person providing it :(
[08:11] <yonahw> it is extremely annoying
[08:11] <intelikey> runlevelten heh.     an old man i knew asked me "how are you *?"   to whom i replied "i could complain but it doesn't seem to do any good."     i could tell he was thinking deeply on how to answer that, and after several moments he asked "have you tried jumping up and down while you complain?"   :))))
[08:12] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : Safe?  Yes, because they won't load (usually).
[08:13] <[ifroog] > jhutchins, i want to load a 2.6.17-10 modules on a 2.6.20-15 ??
[08:13] <intelikey> NickPresta that's because i don't login.  init opens me a shell and i go from there.   the ps can track me but not normal w/who/last/users    kinda handy when catching a cracker/script kiddiy
[08:13] <StoneNewt> w00t all done finally
[08:13] <NickPresta> intelikey, I shall remember that for future use. I didn't know that.
[08:14] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : Go ahead and try, you can't hurt anything.
[08:14] <[ifroog] > :P
[08:14] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : If they load, great!
[08:15] <[ifroog] > jhutchins, -1 Invalid module format :D
[08:15] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : Guess not then.  Where did the original module come from?
[08:15] <[ifroog] > am i am doing it right ??
[08:15] <[ifroog] > sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[08:15] <[ifroog] > ^^
[08:16] <intelikey> NickPresta but i don't exactly use '*buntu'   it's more of and intelikey-linux-gnu system   nothing that can really be called ubuntu anymore except the use of the repos.
[08:16] <jhutchins> !find ndiswrapper
[08:16] <ubotu> Found: linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron, ndiswrapper-common (and 8 others)
[08:17] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:17] <imagine> what's the command to send a file over ftp?
[08:18] <[ifroog] > jhutchins, that will load the module from my current kernel
[08:18] <[ifroog] > well, i am doing it because, ndiswrapper was working great on my previous kernel.
[08:18] <[ifroog] > now it does not even connect..
[08:18] <[ifroog] > :(
[08:19] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : Ah.
[08:19] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : Just boot back to the old kernel, wait for a fix to come out.
[08:19] <intelikey> imagine wput can do that. as well as *ftp and konqueror   but i'm not an ftp user really    used to use ncftp some
[08:20] <[ifroog] > jhutchins, ok, its ok to do that ? as i got this new kernel from the dist-upgrade.
[08:20] <[ifroog] > to feisty
[08:20] <archoniam> Hiyas! I'm new to KDE and i need to know if, and if so how, to empty the Lost and Found. It's getting way too cluttered.
[08:20] <[ifroog] > jhutchins, ok, i will do that.. thanks !
[08:20] <imagine> intelikey: I'm not a ftp user as well ;)
[08:20] <imagine> bu thanks
[08:20] <intelikey> imagine with which i would just log into the site and use   put fliename
[08:20] <jhutchins> [ifroog] : choose the older one at boot time, or edit the menu.list in /boot/grub to change the default
[08:20] <[ifroog] > ok
[08:21] <imagine> intelikey: ok.. well I did it with konqu
[08:21] <[ifroog] > i am up and away..
[08:21] <intelikey> imagine yeah that would be the kubuntu way
[08:21] <intelikey> that's why i mentioned it   sorta
[08:21] <archoniam> Oh yeah, and is there an ISO mount program for Kubuntu?
[08:21] <intelikey> archoniam yeah mount
[08:22] <intelikey> linux doesn't need a program for that   linux has always mounted fs/disk/image files
[08:22] <gergelya> archoniam: mount -o loop /dir/file.iso  /mnt/iso
[08:23] <archoniam> gergelya: Ah. To make things easier, is there an X script maybe? Lol, i know, i need to RTFM and need to know GIYF/JFGI
[08:24] <intelikey> archoniam if you want a script just write it.
[08:24] <jhutchins> archoniam: What are you doing that is causing so many lost files?
[08:24] <avayl-home> hey im trying to buy a new thinkpad and want to make sure it will be supported by k/ubuntu + beryl. can yuo guys check this out and see if I should be okay: http://forums.clubrsx.com/showpost.php?p=14486471&postcount=7
[08:25] <jhutchins> avayl-home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:25] <archoniam> jhutchins: God you guys are fast to noticing me... XD. I'm just really fooling around. That's mainly what this computer is for.
[08:25] <ardchoille> avayl-home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:25] <avayl-home> archoniam i checked there
[08:25] <avayl-home> not everything listed
[08:26] <avayl-home> thought maybe you guys will have more up-to-date infoz
[08:26] <intelikey> echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nkdesu mount -o loop ~/.file.iso ~/myiso' > isomounter.sh ;chmod 755 isomounter.sh
[08:26] <intelikey> archoniam ^
[08:26] <intelikey> there's you a script
[08:26] <archoniam> avayl-home: What did i have to do with it? XD
[08:26] <archoniam> oh, lol, thanks
[08:26] <jhutchins> intelikey: You could make it an alias
[08:26] <intelikey> for point and click mounting     you can add an umoun section  if you like.
[08:27] <avayl-home> archoniam well okay, but do you think that video card should be okay for beryl?
[08:27] <intelikey> jhutchins could   could make it an interactive function if you wanted
[08:27] <jhutchins> intelikey: With variables!
[08:27] <archoniam> So, where do i put the script now that i've copied it again?
[08:27] <intelikey> daz rite
[08:27] <intelikey> archoniam some place you can click it.
[08:28] <NickPresta> avayl-home, http://www.beryl-project.org/faq.php#gq5
[08:28] <jhutchins> avayl-home: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/NVidia_Quadro_NVS_140m
[08:28] <intelikey> archoniam if you will tell me the name and location of the iso i'll write you a good clean script for it. and pastebin it
[08:28] <Miltos> hi ppl:-]
[08:29] <archoniam> avayl-home: Um, i don't even know what you're talking about, sorry. I was too busy listening to Intelikey... lol
[08:29] <jhutchins> intelikey: He could just create a desktop shortcut with that command in it.
[08:29] <intelikey> jhutchins that's what a script is....
[08:29] <intelikey> or rather that's what a shortcut is     a script
[08:30] <jhutchins> WEll, I mean, right click, create new shortcur...
[08:30] <jhutchins> WEll, I mean, right click, create new shortcut...
[08:30] <jhutchins> Put the command right in the .desktop file.
[08:30] <intelikey> yep   me too
[08:32] <Miltos> My external ntfs drive is recognized as a storage 39G from the daemon of kde, but when i click open nothing happens!
[08:32] <avayl-home> should the NVidia Quadro NVS 140m w/ kubuntu support beryl well?
[08:33] <dyingofrobbery1> a log fie od mine is missing
[08:33] <jhutchins> Miltos: Probably mounted root-only.
[08:33] <jhutchins> avayl-home: Maybe, when beryl comes out of alpha testing.
[08:34] <avayl-home> and compiz?
[08:34] <Miltos> jhutchins: how to fix it?
[08:34] <jhutchins> avayl-home: They've merged back together anyway.  Check their web page.
[08:34] <dyingofrobbery1> a log fie od mine is missing
[08:34] <jhutchins> Miltos: You need to change the fstab entry for it.
[08:34] <avayl-home> olk
[08:35] <dyingofrobbery1> am i supposed to have var/log/ssh anywhere?
[08:35] <jhutchins> Miltos: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:35] <jhutchins> dyingofrobbery1: man locate
[08:35] <dyingofrobbery1> am i supposed to have var/log/ssh anywhere?
[08:35] <Miltos> jhutchins: thanks, i am just looking my fstab, wait...
[08:36] <igkque> is locate in the man pages?
[08:36] <SoKeK> hi, I would like to know how to install the Ati propietary drivers in Kubuntu
[08:37] <SoKeK> and if you know a way to install beryl with a ATI x1400
[08:38] <carla> oi
[08:38] <SoKeK> can anybody help me with that?
[08:39] <carla> tem algum brasileiro aqui???
[08:39] <intelikey> jhutchins archoniam could use something like this and have a one click mounts and umounts the iso file script   i use something very near that for my mother to have a cd mount and eject icon on her desktop    i also adjusted sudoers so that it's nopasswd  for the mount command on a special dir   thus it click only.
[08:40] <intelikey> more than one way to defur a felion
[08:40] <igkque> am i supposed to have var/log/ssh anywhere?
[08:40] <intelikey> igkque not if you don't run sshd
[08:41] <igkque> do you think i could find out how to do this in a linux administration book from 2003?
[08:42] <intelikey> yeah it hasn't changed sense then really
[08:42] <Biovore> ssh log is under /var/log somehere.. I think ssh dumps stuff into /var/log/messages
[08:42] <Biovore> or daemon
[08:42] <igkque> thanks
[08:42] <jhutchins> igkque: man locate
[08:43] <Biovore> if the log isn't called ssh... locate won't help.. :-P
[08:43] <igkque> do you ever think anything is at risk if i ask loads of quiestions in here?
[08:43] <Biovore> thats what this channel is for..
[08:43] <intelikey> oh yeah it does default to   /var/log/access or /var/log/messages or something   but has a logging feature of it's own also
[08:44] <Biovore> ^ yes!!!
[08:44] <igkque> i realy think im bugged
[08:45] <Biovore> you linux box?
[08:45] <igkque> my apartment
[08:45] <igkque> my town
[08:45] <rakuco> please, are there going to be backports for the rest of kde4 beta (kdenetwork and everything else)?
[08:46] <ksivaji> what package should  i install so that my browser can interpret php script ?
[08:46] <Biovore> could be.. nothing is "private" anymore unless you put some effort into it..  this channel isn't private.. no encryption and such..
[08:46] <igkque> what would i install if i wanted to wipe out japan?
[08:46] <igkque> what would i install if i wanted to wipe out japan?
[08:46] <Biovore> ksivaji: browsers don't interpret php.. thats a server side then.. apache needs to interpret php..
[08:47] <igkque> what would i install if i wanted to wipe out nazi gernamy or but mostly japan?
[08:47] <igkque> ??
[08:47] <Biovore> what do you mean by wipe out?
[08:47] <NickPresta> igkque, what are you talking about?
[08:47] <igkque> i dont know im going
[08:47] <Biovore> well that would explain it.. :-P
[08:48] <igkque> i hate living by the highway
[08:48] <intelikey> ksivaji change the name from blah.php to blah.php.html  and konq will run it
[08:48] <igkque> what would i install if i wanted to wipe out nazi gernamy or but mostly japan?
[08:48] <igkque> i hate living by the highway
[08:48] <igkque> i hate listening to the radio
[08:48] <intelikey> ksivaji you can add the mime type if you like
[08:49] <Biovore> Will konqueror interpret php?
[08:49] <ksivaji> Biovore then i saw one html source in w3school.com where .php file is called
[08:49] <igkque> or mabey if i wanted to wipe out sadaams wierd little hacker community
[08:49] <ksivaji> intelikey great
[08:49] <igkque> or mabey if i wanted to wipe out sadaams wierd little hacker community
[08:49] <ksivaji> !repeat
[08:49] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait.  Don't feed the troll
[08:51] <nicolai_> !spam
[08:51] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[08:51] <Biovore> you could be living on the highway..
[08:52] <igkque> god i lost so many computers before i read the extra rules of what a troll even is
[08:52] <ksivaji> intelikey no konqueror cant interpret
[08:52] <intelikey> nicolai_ but trolls are so cute  :)
[08:52] <igkque> i thought for the longest time that i wasw supposed to make a troll in a video game elvel
[08:52] <igkque> level
[08:52] <igkque> i didnt weven see the troll rule anywhere i sign up for a forum!
[08:52] <intelikey> ksivaji really ?   hmmm
[08:52] <igkque> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[08:52] <Biovore> ksivaji: the webserver calls php to create a html file for a webrowser to read..
[08:52] <NickPresta> !flooding | igkque
[08:52] <ubotu> igkque: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:53] <ksivaji> !ops | igkque
[08:53] <ubotu> igkque: Help!  I would install apache on your box and setup a simple webserver..
[08:58] <intelikey> ksivaji php4 seems to be installd but i didn't configure that    not that i remember anyway....
[08:58] <Biovore> ksivaji: else you can call..  php <filename.php> > output.html    and open output.html in konqueror.
[08:58] <Assid> intelikey: thats not really dynamic
[08:58] <intelikey> oh wait having   cherokee installed is probably why
[08:58] <jhutchins> Assid: To simplify your question, no, kubuntu doesn't recognise .iso files as mountable by default.
[08:58] <ksivaji>  Biovore ok i will try
[08:59] <jhutchins> Assid: 'Though that's not a bad feature to request.
[08:59] <Assid> okay how do i request it
[08:59] <intelikey> Assid so power it up to suit your self.    make the variable ="*.iso"   heh
[08:59] <Assid> intelikey: right but thats not gonna interface with X
[08:59] <wtfIsATrollGame> i thought for the longest time people wanted me to make a troll in one of my video game levels!
[09:00] <wtfIsATrollGame> i realy hate you!
[09:00] <Kes> hmm does anyone know how i can get flash working in firefox by typing something into terminal? :o
[09:00] <intelikey> it will if you tell konq to open .iso files with that script
[09:00] <intelikey> like   duh.
[09:00] <Assid> okay i gotta learn how to do that
[09:01] <PriceChild> Assid, what I just did?
[09:01] <Assid> no
[09:01] <intelikey> assid you right click an .iso and choose open with and select the script and tick the always use this...
[09:01] <jhutchins> !info fuseiso
[09:01] <ubotu> fuseiso: FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060107-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:02] <jhutchins> !info kiso
[09:02] <ubotu> kiso: program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 346 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[09:02] <W8TAH> for some reason my computer runs hotter (as judged by fan speed ) under kubuntu than it does under windows while it is idleing (i dual boot) -- what (if anything) can i do to reduce that
[09:02] <intelikey> jhutchins heh        fuse     isn't that like    move every thing into user space    and now how do we secure things in user space....      (me shoots self in foot to see if it hurts)
[09:02] <jhutchins> !info isomaster
[09:02] <ubotu> Package isomaster does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:03] <Assid> jhutchins: any of that do the above ?
[09:03] <jhutchins> Assid: Find out!
[09:03] <Assid> hehe okay
[09:04] <intelikey> kiso uses kio slaves ?
[09:05] <ksivaji> !webserver
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <intelikey> hmmm  that might be acceptable,   i'll have to look a little deeper at kiso.
[09:05] <ksivaji> how to setup a webserver i have apache installed on my machine but i havent configured it
[09:06] <jhutchins> Assid: ksivaji: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955
[09:06] <ksivaji> jhutchins ok
[09:06] <jhutchins> THat looks like it's exactly what you're looking for!
[09:07] <Kes> !flash
[09:07] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:07] <intelikey> MounfFile ?
[09:08] <Kes> how do i find out what version of ubuntu im using?
[09:09] <vizard> how can i change the resloution of my screen, it gives me a maximum resolution of 1024x768
[09:09] <stdin> !version | Kes
[09:09] <ubotu> Kes: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[09:09] <stdin> !resolution | vizard
[09:09] <ubotu> vizard: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:09] <intelikey> stdin you write that  ?
[09:10] <Assid> err anyo of you guys use vmware-tools ?
[09:10] <stdin> intelikey: yep :)
[09:10] <vizard> ok..thanks
[09:10] <jhutchins> Assid: #vmware
[09:11] <intelikey> stdin let me see ???      (i'm not feeling too critical right now)
[09:11] <intelikey> :)
[09:11] <Assid> thanks jhutchins
[09:11] <stdin> intelikey: http://stdin.pastebin.us/38694
[09:14] <Miltos> i can't mount my external ntfs usb drive...i've checked my fstab and it seems okey...any ideas???
[09:15] <stdin> intelikey: the bit on line 102 (if [ "x$file" != "x" ] ) is for the service menu entry, it calls the script with $file set
[09:16] <intelikey> k yeah.     use more quotes.    like mounts=$HOME/.mount/  <<<< should be qouted cause it could have spaces in it.
[09:18] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, I actually only made it for me, but people were asking for a easy way to mount isos and I remembered it. so I spend a couple days cleaning it up and making it more generic
[09:18] <ksivaji> stdin hi
[09:19] <stdin> hi ksivaji
[09:19] <ksivaji> which is better static ip  or dynamic ip
[09:19] <intelikey> always better to not "assume" defaults.   that's why so many dpkg scripts break.
[09:19] <jhutchins> Miltos: Tell us what does happen, what /var/log/messages and/or dmesg say.
[09:19] <NickPresta> ksivaji, neither are "better". You pick whichever suits your needs
[09:19] <intelikey> ah so it's a converted personal script.... yeah   that makes things messier.    i stand under you.
[09:19] <stdin> ksivaji: neither is better, depends what you want
[09:20] <Kes> Hi fellas, wondering if you could help a noob get flash working on a fresh install?
[09:20] <stdin> intelikey: you stand under me?
[09:20] <jhutchins> stdin: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148546 < feature requested with your script as an example.
[09:20] <stdin> jhutchins: yeah, just saw it :)
[09:20] <jhutchins> !flash | kes
[09:20] <ubotu> kes: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:20] <intelikey> ksivaji the one that works for you is obviously better for you
[09:20] <ksivaji> ok bye its time to sleep 12.52 here
[09:20] <intelikey> stdin isn't that what "understand" means  ?
[09:20] <root> GOD HELP ME
[09:20] <stdin> intelikey: heh, probably :p
[09:20] <Karti> stdin: Hi, just a quick one about my script from before. To rmind you, it works fine - ish, but when it creates the tar file it copies it across but not the whole file. Normally in Windows a command is followed through before the next command is activated. But here it appears to do it as soon as the file starts to create....any ideas PS its running through th euser cron
[09:21] <Miltos> jhutchins: not much to say...my external usb ntfs drive is not mounted...no messages, no complains...
[09:21] <root> I've been trying this for hours, completely bashing my system about 3 times so far, forcing me to restore from backups
[09:21] <Insane`KDE> *wrong name
[09:22] <Insane`KDE> Somebody seriously help me activate my second monitor
[09:22] <intelikey> you going to build the suspense,   or just tell us what the issue is?
[09:22] <NickPresta> Insane`KDE, which card and which driver?
[09:22] <Kes> ive got an amd 64 processor, is it harder to get flash working on it?
[09:22] <stdin> Karti: hmm, can you post the link to it again, so I can have another look?
[09:22] <jhutchins> Miltos: /var/log/messages or dmesg will say something immediately after you plug it in - that or it (or the usb port) is dead.
[09:22] <intelikey> and did you read the   !dualhead   infonode ?
[09:23] <Karti> no probs
[09:23] <intelikey> !dualhead
[09:23] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[09:24] <Karti> stdin: Here is the back up file that works http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32651/
[09:25] <Miltos> jhutchins: before that...could you tell me how to mount it manually?
[09:26] <NickPresta> Kes, as far as I understand, there is no 64-bit Flash.
[09:26] <jhutchins> Gah.  #kde and kde.org are just a waste of time.
[09:26] <stdin> Karti: hmm, it should work the way you have it..
[09:27] <Karti> Here is my cron file as well http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32652/
[09:28] <NickPresta> Kes, you either have to use a 32-bit installation of Firefox/your browser or compile nspluginwrapper (http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/projects/nspluginwrapper/)
[09:28] <Assid> hrmm acetone iso aint bad either
[09:29] <Karti> I have made the backup exe mod 777 to get rid of any issues and it works absolutly fine if I run it or just click on it
[09:29] <Kes> cheers fellas
[09:30] <Assid> hrmm.. when i use beryl.. i end up with a black window everynow and then
[09:31] <Assid> specially with anything that runs through wine.. thats almost always
[09:33] <Df_Yz> "Hello" to all!
[09:33] <Df_Yz> :)
[09:35] <Assid> err. anyone know any app for recording screen input to swf or something?
[09:36] <Assid> like mov/swf/mpg or something
[09:36] <Df_Yz> mmm
[09:36] <Df_Yz> I see some in my F.A.Q.....
[09:36] <Kes> !dvd playback
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd playback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Df_Yz> sory for my bad English
[09:37] <Df_Yz> please,wait few time...
[09:40] <Df_Yz> Assid, i find
[09:40] <Df_Yz> swf - http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[09:40] <ejortegau> ~lvm
[09:40] <ejortegau> !lvm
[09:40] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:40] <Df_Yz> avi - http://sourceforge.net/projects/xvidcap
[09:40] <NickPresta> !dualboot
[09:40] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[09:41] <_ron> hi everyone...can anyone give me some pointers on why I am seeing update downloads from the update repositories being corrupted?
[09:42] <_ron> I'm using the x86_64 version of Kubuntu
[09:42] <NickPresta> _ron, are you using official repositories?
[09:43] <_ron> NickPresta: fresh install no mods....just trying to do the inital update and it keeps failing
[09:43] <NickPresta> _ron, using pastebin, post your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:43] <NickPresta> !pastebin
[09:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:45] <linuxtk10> where does konversation on kubuntu save irc logs ?
[09:45] <_ron> I'll have to log back in when I'm on that machine so I can get that, I'm running a memory test on it at the moment just to be sure that isn't the issue.  I've installed several times though and run into the same problem every time
[09:47] <adenicio> i download ntfs-3g to modify my ntfs partition but how do i use it?
[09:47] <adenicio> i download ntfs-3g to modify my ntfs partition but how do i use it?
[09:49] <adenicio> i download ntfs-3g to modify my ntfs partition but how do i use it?
[09:50] <ejortegau> adenicio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[09:51] <ejortegau> can i tell adept/apt to use a proxy server? where?
[09:51] <adenicio> ejortegau: i seing my ntfs xp i just want to activat the read rite i refusing
[09:52] <ejortegau> adenicio: sorry, i have never actually used it... i just thought that site would be useful for you
[09:53] <adenicio> ejortegau: yea it look like it have the answer right now
[09:55] <morph_> hello all
[09:55] <morph_> anyone know of a good gui video converter
[09:55] <PhinnFort> morph_: looked at kde-apps.org?
[09:57] <ubuntu> anyone know a good starter site for user new to linux?
[09:57] <linuxtk10> where does konversation log too ?
[09:57] <morph_> lemme check
[09:58] <ubuntu> go to top
[09:58] <ubuntu> window
[09:58] <ubuntu> open logfile
[09:59] <morph_> this one looks good KVideoEncoder
[10:01] <PhinnFort> morph_: do you need help compiling it?
[10:02] <morph_> hmm
[10:02] <morph_> probably hehe
[10:03] <morph_> thought i could find it on adept
[10:03] <PhinnFort> morph_: download the .tar.gz (or .bz2) to your homefolder or something
[10:03] <PhinnFort> it isn't there
[10:03] <PhinnFort> but it isn't that hard to compile either
[10:03] <PhinnFort> and if you want, you can probably submit a package request, and it may be included into gutsy
[10:04] <morph_> ok cool, they are both there bz2 and gz
[10:04] <morph_> doesnt matter i guess?
[10:04] <PhinnFort> tbz is smaller
[10:04] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:04] <PhinnFort> but it doesn't matter
[10:05] <morph_> ok got it
[10:05] <PhinnFort> anyways, when downloaded, go to the folder in konqueror (or dolphin) and hit F4 to open a terminal there
[10:05] <vge> root is a bad name to irc on ;)
[10:05] <PhinnFort> then type "tar xjvf kvideo" and hit TAB and Enter
[10:05] <PhinnFort> vge: :P
[10:06] <ubuntu> anyone know of any good linux starter sites
[10:06] <PhinnFort> vge: do you think someone nuked him?
[10:07] <PhinnFort> !starter
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about starter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <vge> PhinnFort: naah
[10:07] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: what exactly do you want?
[10:07] <PhinnFort> vge: would be funny, though:P
[10:07] <PhinnFort> (in a weird, creepy way(
[10:07] <PhinnFort> *)
[10:07] <r-c> https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:08] <vge> i wonder what irc program allows that nick
[10:08] <PhinnFort> konversation?
[10:08] <PhinnFort> I don't think it has any restrictions
[10:08] <PhinnFort> but nudge Sho_ in #kde, and it might get it;)
[10:08] <morph_> i have tar.bz2
[10:08] <vge> must be a network thing then
[10:09] <PhinnFort> morph_: did you go to the folder where you downloaded it and hit F4?
[10:09] <morph_> yes
[10:09] <morph_> home folder
[10:09] <morph_> then f4
[10:09] <morph_> then tar xjvf kvideo
[10:09] <PhinnFort> what came up?
[10:09] <PhinnFort> oh, and did you hit TAB afterwards?
[10:09] <PhinnFort> it should autocomplete the filename
[10:09] <morph_> morph@stealth:~$ tar xjvf kvideo
[10:09] <morph_> tar: kvideo: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[10:09] <morph_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:09] <morph_> tar: Child returned status 2
[10:09] <morph_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[10:09] <morph_> yeah tab
[10:10] <PhinnFort> one sec
[10:10] <morph_> KVideoEncoder-0.08.tar.bz2
[10:10] <PhinnFort> ah, do "tar xjvf KVideoEncoder-0.08.tar.bz2" then
[10:10] <PhinnFort> (didn't notice the capitalized letters)
[10:11] <Tit0u__> nobody can say at me what is the IRC ip's of Quacknet serveur
[10:11] <PhinnFort> then do "cd KVi" [tab]  and enter
[10:11] <vge> and kde can use unpack the paggage with gui tools for u if u want to
[10:11] <PhinnFort> Tit0u__: irc.quakenet.org?
[10:11] <ubuntu> phinnFort a good place to download software, and nice additions, etc
[10:11] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: look at help.ubuntu.com for some nice help stuff, and kde-look.org for skins, themes, etc.
[10:12] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: and just ask here if you need help using/installing any of it
[10:12] <ubuntu> ok
[10:12] <vge> ubuntu: check adept for all the software u need
[10:12] <ubuntu> how do u use wine?
[10:12] <ubuntu> btw
[10:12] <ubuntu> i need to use windows proggies
[10:12] <PhinnFort> !wine | ubuntu
[10:12] <ubotu> ubuntu: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:12] <ubuntu> at leasta fewm
[10:12] <vge> which ones?
[10:12] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: it doesn't always work well, but it usually works with most with a bit of tweaking
[10:12] <ubuntu> photoshop
[10:13] <morph_> ok its
[10:13] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: look here for info on how well it supports apps, and how to tweak it to work better: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[10:13] <morph_> done
[10:13] <PhinnFort> morph_: the "cd KV" too?
[10:13] <elite101> hey what is the command line to fix adept its like dpkg-9 or something?
[10:13] <morph_> is that it?
[10:13] <PhinnFort> !adeptfix | elite101
[10:13] <ubotu> elite101: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:14] <elite101> thanx
[10:14] <PhinnFort> morph_: no, now the compiling begins;)
[10:14] <morph_> hehe
[10:14] <PhinnFort> morph_: do sudo aptitude install build-essential checkinstall
[10:14] <Level15> crap... no wine official packages for amd64...
[10:14] <PhinnFort> Level15: no official ones, but they work fine here
[10:14] <morph_> wow its going :)
[10:15] <Level15> PhinnFort: are they maintained?
[10:15] <PhinnFort> Tit0u__: <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:15] <PhinnFort> Level15: by the Wine packaging team, afaik
[10:15] <PhinnFort> Level15: I just got updated packages
[10:15] <morph_> what is xvif something like extract verify
[10:15] <Level15> PhinnFort: good enough :D
[10:15] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:15] <morph_> install file?
[10:16] <jhutchins> morph_: man tar will tell you everything.
[10:16] <morph_> ok that step is done
[10:16] <PhinnFort> morph_: tar = tar program, x = extract, j = bz2 uncompress, v = verbose (tell which files are being extracted), f = what is following this, is the file to be extracted
[10:16] <PhinnFort> morph_: now do "sudo aptitude install kdelibs-dev"
[10:16] <nicolai_> Is there a KDE frontend for GRAMPS?
[10:17] <nicolai_> Gnome methology confuses me
[10:17] <ron__> NickPresta: my /etc/apt/sources.list file is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32662/  (it's the default file though afaik)
[10:17] <PhinnFort> Level15: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[10:18] <graft> how do i get the most out of my 802.11g card? it claims to get 18-54Mb/s, but the best i ever see is 680kb/s
[10:18] <Level15> PhinnFort: thx
[10:18] <PhinnFort> np
[10:18] <elite101> hey im using VLC to view my movie (.avi files) everything works but i wanna get rid of everything on screen and full screen the movie ?
[10:18] <PhinnFort> elite101: hit "f"?
[10:18] <Level15> graft: you wouldn't see 54 Mb/s not even if you were the only guy using the wireless network and you stood next to the AP
[10:18] <elite101> i will try that
[10:18] <morph_> double click screen
[10:19] <elite101> lol im dumb
[10:19] <PhinnFort> morph_: I don't think VLC supports that
[10:19] <elite101> :)
[10:19] <elite101> thanx
[10:19] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:19] <morph_> oh
[10:19] <vge> morph_: doubleclick wond do
[10:19] <elite101> very much
[10:19] <PhinnFort> elite101: you might also want to try Codeine
[10:19] <elite101> yeah true
[10:19] <graft> Level15: okay, fair enough, but 680 kb/s is way below what's promised... that's two orders of magnitude!
[10:19] <elite101> i have XINE/VLC?
[10:19] <PhinnFort> it's a very good video player, possibly the default in KDE 4
[10:19] <elite101> are they anygood
[10:19] <elite101> okay
[10:19] <elite101> i wil try that one too
[10:19] <PhinnFort> it's very easy to use, imho
[10:19] <PhinnFort> !info codeine
[10:19] <ubotu> codeine: Simple KDE video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.dfsg-2 (feisty), package size 174 kB, installed size 596 kB
[10:20] <ron__> graft are you measuring it local computer to local computer, or are you testing it with an external speed test?
[10:20] <Level15> graft: is signal strength good?
[10:20] <graft> ron__: local to local
[10:20] <graft> yeah, signal strength is good
[10:20] <Level15> graft: and are you getting 680 KB/s or Kb/s?
[10:21] <graft> err, KB/s, sorry... so, yeah, not two orders of magnitude
[10:21] <morph_> ok that step is done
[10:21] <Level15> graft: ok, so you are getting close to 5.6 Mb/s
[10:21] <Level15> what's the signal strength?
[10:21] <graft> 40/45
[10:22] <Level15> is it a shared AP?
[10:22] <graft> yeah, but no one else is using it
[10:22] <ron__> anyone have an idea why I'm seeing corrupt update packages coming from the x86_64 repositories? I've cleared the cache several times and still can't get a good download on the python2.5 packages
[10:22] <buck_> kall me stupid..
[10:22] <graft> and i never get speeds above this
[10:22] <buck_> has anyone installed unreal 2004 and the patches
[10:22] <Level15> are you connected using 802.11b or 802.11g or what version of 802.11?
[10:23] <graft> Level15: 802.11g
[10:23] <graft> Level15: or at least so iwconfig reports
[10:23] <PhinnFort> ron__: try an update
[10:23] <PhinnFort> sudo aptitude update
[10:23] <Level15> hm doesn't sound so good...
[10:23] <Level15> please pastebin the output of iwconfig
[10:24] <morph_> PhinnFort> am i done installing compliling?
[10:24] <PhinnFort> morph_: are you on 64-bit or 32-bit?
[10:24] <morph_> 64
[10:24] <morph_> well
[10:24] <morph_> 32 kubuntu
[10:24] <graft> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32664/
[10:24] <PhinnFort> dang
[10:24] <buck_> anyone ..
[10:24] <morph_> but 64 bit cpu
[10:24] <buck_> install ut 2004 and patches
[10:24] <PhinnFort> morph_: then you need to compile it yourself (i'm on 64-bit)
[10:24] <PhinnFort> morph_: run "./configure"
[10:25] <PhinnFort> morph_: if it says all is ok, run "make"
[10:25] <Biovore> buck_: there tarballs..
[10:25] <morph_> morph@stealth:~$ ./configure
[10:25] <morph_> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[10:25] <buck_> yeah .. but for some reason .. i am unable to get the patch  loaded
[10:25] <Level15> Link Quality=40/94
[10:25] <Level15> that's not so good...
[10:25] <Biovore> buck_: where you downloading it from?
[10:26] <graft> Level15: that's a reporting error for atheros chipsets, i believe
[10:26] <Level15>  Rx invalid nwid:89895
[10:26] <PhinnFort> morph_: do "cd KVideoEncoder-0.08" first
[10:26] <buck_> gamers hell .com
[10:26] <PhinnFort> morph_: and try again
[10:26] <Biovore> buck_: http://www.biovore.net/Fileserver/gaming/UT2k4/ut2004-lnxpatch3369-2.tar.bz2
[10:26] <graft> Level15: iwconfig just prints the wrong baseline
[10:26] <buck_> yeah .. i have that
[10:26] <Level15> still, tons of Rx errors...
[10:26] <Level15> something is not good with the quality of the link, imho
[10:26] <morph_> morph@stealth:~/KVideoEncoder-0.08$ ./configure
[10:26] <morph_> Checking for g++... /usr/bin/g++
[10:27] <morph_> Checking for qmake... /usr/bin/qmake
[10:27] <morph_> Checking for kde-config.../usr/bin/kde-config
[10:27] <morph_> Checking for KDE.../usr
[10:27] <morph_> Checking for KDE includes...not found.
[10:27] <morph_> Please install the KDE development packages,
[10:27] <morph_> or try to set the KDE-Includes path with the commandline option --with-kde-includes
[10:27] <runlevelten> ooooNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:27] <Biovore> buck_: download the patch to your home dir..  "tar -xvjf ut2004-lnxpatch3369-1.tar.bz3"
[10:27] <runlevelten> !pastebin
[10:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:27] <morph_> oops
[10:27] <Biovore> buck_: then cd to the directory it made
[10:27] <graft> Level15: hrmmm... what would you expect the rate of those to be?
[10:27] <runlevelten> Phew, that configure stopped a lot sooner than it could have, heh.
[10:27] <Level15> 0
[10:27] <Level15> eh
[10:27] <graft> hmm
[10:27] <PhinnFort> morph_: did you install kdelibs-dev?
[10:27] <Biovore> buck_: then "sudo cp * /usr/local/games/ut2004/"
[10:28] <buck_> .. will that work for the mega pack too
[10:28] <morph_> yeah did everything you posted
[10:28] <Biovore> yes.. all linux packs..
[10:28] <buck_> okay .. here goes..
[10:28] <buck_> .. thank you
[10:28] <PhinnFort> morph_: my mistake, do "sudo aptitude install kde-devel"
[10:28] <Level15> graft: it probably means there's a lot of intereference. are there many other wifi networks around?
[10:28] <Biovore> buck_: the MS bonius packs is a .exe.. just run unzip on it. and copy the outputs to /usr/local/games/ut2004/
[10:28] <PhinnFort> morph_: we only installed part of the development files needed
[10:28] <morph_> have to do cd ..
[10:28] <morph_> up one folder
[10:29] <buck_> yeah .. i did that .. but they have a linux BP too
[10:29] <buck_> the earlier ones are zip or exe
[10:29] <PhinnFort> morph_: no
[10:29] <Biovore> buck_: yeah.. use the linux stuff..
[10:29] <buck_> okay .. i will try that ..
[10:29] <buck_> i just didnt understand all the message boards... gets confusing..
[10:29] <PhinnFort> morph_: and can you write "phi" and hit tab when replying, that way it "plings" here when you write something
[10:29] <Biovore> buck_: I play TDM and TAM here.. I don't bother with the bonius stuff.. I don't play onslought
[10:30] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:30] <buck_> I like instagib myself
[10:30] <Level15> lol
[10:30] <buck_> but i want to see the new vehicles
[10:30] <Biovore> buck_: Basicly all you really need is the lastest patch and then you can download everything else from the server when you connect..
[10:30] <Level15> is there instagib on ut2k4?
[10:30] <Biovore> yup.. its a mod
[10:30] <buck_> yeah .. but rare
[10:30] <buck_> used to be popular ..
[10:30] <Biovore> There are a couple of IG clans around..
[10:31] <buck_> i like it
[10:31] <Biovore> Its still big on UT99
[10:31] <Damienww> hello, can someone help me? i have a very noobish question
[10:31] <graft> Level15: nope, only one, and it's on a different channel
[10:31] <vge> !ask
[10:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:31] <buck_> i can hardly wait for UT3
[10:31] <morph_> PhinnFort: cool
[10:31] <buck_> thats gonna be one sic game..
[10:31] <Biovore> yup.. end of september..
[10:31] <buck_> i hope they run a linux port
[10:31] <vge> sequals allways suck
[10:31] <PhinnFort> morph_: tab completion works almost anywhere in Linux, and it's a rather big timesaver;)
[10:31] <Biovore> buck_: Will have a good linux port
[10:32] <Damienww> i'm trying to install the new version of kubuntu on my laptop, but wheni boot on it and click run/install, kubuntu starts but then i only have a white line to enter a command
[10:32] <Biovore> buck_: we even are getting the unreal editor and such for linux and mac now..
[10:32] <Level15> well, that number means your wifi card is receiving tons of packets with different essid... so maybe there's another network sending a lot but which doesn't announce itself... i've heard that's possible
[10:32] <Biovore> buck_: And the cool thing is we will beable to play against PS3 players now :-)
[10:32] <morph_> brb something is not letting me install
[10:33] <Damienww> everything is loaded, it even shuts down normally when i click on shut down button on my laptop
[10:33] <buck_> right on
[10:33] <buck_> i am waiting for that day
[10:33] <Karti> Damienww: type in startx
[10:33] <Biovore> buck_: I expect the preview demo should be out in the begining of sept
[10:33] <Karti> Damienww: if it lets you logon
[10:33] <morph_> back
[10:33] <buck_> still says i am version 3186
[10:33] <Damienww> it doesn't actually
[10:34] <Damienww> seems it crashes just before
[10:34] <buck_> i got new screen tho
[10:34] <morph_> ok thats tep is done
[10:34] <Karti> did you do a cd check before you installed it?
[10:34] <morph_> now i do ./config
[10:34] <PhinnFort> morph_: try ./configure again
[10:34] <PhinnFort> yeah
[10:34] <Damienww> yeah
[10:35] <morph_> Please install the KDE development packages,
[10:35] <Biovore> buck_: the tar.bz2 file is just a directory structure of the ut directory.. just extract the tar.bz2 file to where you have ut2k4 installed
[10:35] <PhinnFort> morph_: still?
[10:35] <Karti> I assume it passed
[10:35] <Damienww> yes
[10:35] <morph_> well the other one was includes
[10:35] <morph_> phi
[10:35] <morph_> PhinnFort: other was includes
[10:35] <PhinnFort> morph_: did you do "sudo aptitude install kde-devel"?
[10:35] <ron__> PhinnFort...just curious how you deal with there not being a Flash and other applications for 64-bit
[10:35] <PhinnFort> ron__: there is, use nspluginwrapper
[10:36] <Karti> when the live cd started initially did you just selct the Install from the desktop
[10:36] <PhinnFort> ron__: and that's about it
[10:36] <morph_> PhinnFort: doing it again
[10:36] <PhinnFort> ron__: you can also use a 32-bit browser, like Opera
[10:36] <Damienww> the was only one option at the booting screen with install: "run or install kubuntu"...
[10:36] <Damienww> or smthg like that
[10:37] <morph_> Checking for KDE includes...not found.
[10:37] <buck_> .. are you sure UT3 will have linux from start
[10:37] <morph_> PhinnFort: Checking for KDE includes...not found.
[10:37] <Biovore> buck_: yes.. epic as already said it will..
[10:37] <buck_> cool .. now i am having troubles..
[10:37] <Level15> PhinnFort: that nspluginwrapper crashes every 10 seconds... for me, it was better to install netscape 32 bits
[10:37] <buck_> i already extracted to that directory
[10:37] <buck_> with no luck
[10:37] <ron__> PhinnFort:  thanks for the pointer I'll look into when I get my system updated....it seems I've managed to hose up my install now...unresolve dependencies and the package I need to resolve it is the corrupt one
[10:37] <morph_> im such a n00b at compiling
[10:37] <PhinnFort> Level15: tried Opera?
[10:38] <Level15> PhinnFort: didn't run don't recall why
[10:38] <buck_> should the cp * have an r after it
[10:38] <Level15> something dealing with qt 32 bits libraries or something
[10:38] <Biovore> buck_: yeah.. cp -r
[10:38] <Karti> Damienww: is it the live cd you have?
[10:38] <Damienww> yes
[10:38] <Biovore> buck_: yeah.. cp -rv <-- verify
[10:38] <Damienww> i just downloaded it
[10:38] <Damienww> jubuntu 7.04
[10:38] <PhinnFort> morph_: try "kate config.log" and paste it
[10:38] <PhinnFort> !paste | morph_
[10:38] <ubotu> morph_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:38] <Damienww> *kubuntu
[10:39] <PhinnFort> Level15: the nspluginviewer sometimes hang in Konqueror, but Opera works just fine
[10:39] <Karti> when you selected the top menu item did it boot into a desktop
[10:39] <stephans> has anyone used kino? Or is there a good video/dvd creator like in the MAc?
[10:39] <Karti> with an icon at the top saying install?
[10:39] <Biovore> I have used kino.. its not very complete..
[10:39] <Damienww> well, it did boot, but i never got to see the desktop
[10:39] <Damienww> it crashed at the end of the boot
[10:40] <morph_> log is blank
[10:40] <morph_> PhinnFort: log is blank
[10:40] <Karti> and you checked the media on the front menu?
[10:40] <Damienww> yep
[10:40] <PhinnFort> morph_: try opening it from within kate
[10:40] <Damienww> no problem reported
[10:40] <Level15> PhinnFort: will give that a try then
[10:40] <vge> wow, yakuake has made some nice progress
[10:40] <Level15> just after i finish reinstalling and applying patches and stuff
[10:40] <PhinnFort> stephans: tried mandvd?
[10:40] <NickPresta> vge, how has it changed?
[10:40] <Karti> If I remember there are other boot options if you press F1
[10:40] <PhinnFort> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/ManDVD?content=38347
[10:41] <Karti> and it gives you examples to cover most eventualities
[10:41] <Karti> I can't remember what they are but have a look
[10:41] <PhinnFort> stephans: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/ManDVD?content=38347
[10:41] <Damienww> well, i tried
[10:41] <morph_> aww man my beryl is fubarred
[10:41] <Damienww> but didn't find any :/
[10:42] <vge> well, defaults are allot better atleast and tabs and other are styled better
[10:42] <NickPresta> morph_, how so?
[10:42] <morph_> the border is gone now
[10:42] <buck_> im back
[10:42] <morph_> around windows
[10:42] <buck_> 2004
[10:42] <Karti> Damienww: let me find my cd and try on another PC
[10:42] <PhinnFort> morph_: try rerunning the window decorator
[10:42] <Biovore> morph_: you running in 24bit color depth?
[10:42] <Damienww> well, then let me get on irc on another comp
[10:42] <Damienww> brb
[10:42] <buck_> Assertion failed: sizeof(*this)==GetClass()->GetPropertiesSize() [File:UnGame.cpp]  [Line: 149]
[10:42] <PhinnFort> morph_: hit alt f2, type "beryl" and hit enter
[10:42] <morph_> hehe
[10:42] <Biovore> buck_: you got the right version now?
[10:42] <morph_> it works now
[10:42] <Sinistral_> Is there anyone with experiences in samba. I have gotten so far that I can see this computer on itself and on the windows pc, but I can't see any shares (I set up the [homes]  and a [printer]  share. Here is my smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32669/
[10:42] <buck_> i think i have to fresh install
[10:43] <buck_> .. because now i can load the game
[10:43] <underdog5004> morph_, do you have an nvidia card?
[10:43] <morph_> yeah
[10:43] <morph_>  mobile
[10:43] <Biovore> buck_: interesting..
[10:43] <underdog5004> morph_, gimme a sec, I can help you.
[10:43] <Biovore> buck_: or you buggered up something in the install.. you could try removing ~/.ut2004 and tring..
[10:44] <Damienww> actually
[10:44] <Biovore> buck_: The update just work.. it just updates the ut2004-bin file and some others..
[10:44] <Level15> brb
[10:44] <Damienww> Karti: i'll do that tomorrow
[10:44] <underdog5004> you need to put this (     Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" ) under the Section "Screen" section of your xorg.conf
[10:44] <Damienww> dont worry
[10:44] <underdog5004> gonnna go chill w/ gf now
[10:44] <underdog5004> bye
[10:45] <morph_> cya
[10:45] <nixternal> HEY EVERYONE!!!  If you see a ton of people join at one time, can you please do an !ops as soon as possible? This is just a safety measure in case a mass amount of spammers hit at once
[10:45] <PhinnFort> nixternal: ok
[10:45] <Dragnslcr> Expecting an attack, are we?
[10:45] <buck_> yeah .. i think i need to reinstall
[10:46] <nixternal> thanks PhinnFort...#ubuntu just got nailed super hard with the biggest spam session I have seen in a long time
[10:46] <morph_> im going to an observatory with my gf later
[10:46] <buck_> i am gonna delete directory firt
[10:46] <buck_> fi
[10:46] <morph_> should be fun
[10:46] <nixternal> it made irssi want to cry with lag :)
[10:46] <buck_> first
[10:46] <NickPresta> nixternal, yeah. I just saw it too
  thankyou.
[10:46] <nixternal> that was crazy
[10:46] <Dragnslcr> Heh, looks like it was fun, nixternal
[10:46] <morph_> BTW someone showed this cool asus lappy yesterday on here
[10:46] <Dragnslcr> I don't usually pay attention to #ubuntu
[10:47] <PhinnFort> nixternal: notified the freenode staff?
[10:47] <nixternal> they are on it
[10:47] <morph_> gonna be 200 bucks
[10:47] <mkquist> anyone know whats going on in #ubuntu?
[10:47] <morph_> running linux also
[10:47] <buck_> do i just click on the uninstall bash
[10:47] <morph_> 7" screen
[10:47] <PriceChild> mkquist, bot attack, we are aware and dealing with it
[10:47] <PriceChild> lets stay on topic :)
[10:48] <Karti> Damienww: if you are still there, you will find ideas with regards booting from the disk by using F1 help etc - good luck
[10:48] <Dragnslcr> morph_- yeah, I saw an article about it. Looks like an interesting alternative to normal PDA's
[10:50] <morph_> PhinnFort: Yeah I would like to get one, just for vpn
[10:52] <morph_> sudo aptitude install build-essential checkinstall
[10:52] <morph_> fist command
[10:53] <buck_> grrrr .. well .. reinstalling
[10:53] <PhinnFort> morph_: ./configure ran?
[10:53] <morph_> then "sudo aptitude install kdelibs-dev"
[10:53] <morph_> no says missing includes
[10:53] <PhinnFort> kde-devel
[10:53] <PhinnFort> ?
[10:53] <PhinnFort> morph_: did you try finding the config.log in kate?
[10:53] <morph_> then "sudo aptitude install kdelibs-dev"
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Open File
[10:54] <morph_> and sudo aptitude install kde-devel
[10:54] <morph_> yeah i found  the config file
[10:55] <PhinnFort> is it still empty?
[10:55] <morph_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32675/
[10:56] <PhinnFort> tanks
[10:56] <PhinnFort> *thanks
[10:56] <morph_> is that right?
[10:56] <morph_> PhinnFort: is that right?
[10:57] <PhinnFort> morph_: can you run "dpkg -L kdelibs-devel"?
[10:57] <PhinnFort> and paste the output
[10:57] <morph_> says not installed
[10:58] <morph_> Package `kdelibs-devel' is not installed.
[10:58] <PhinnFort> !info kde-devel
[10:58] <ubotu> kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[10:58] <PhinnFort> morph_: dpkg -L kde-devel?
[10:59] <morph_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32678/
[11:00] <morph_> PhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32678/
[11:00] <PhinnFort> thanks
[11:00] <Biovore> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXpwC1o5AcI <-- ruby programing crash-course.. kinda good..
[11:00] <PhinnFort> morph_: sudo aptitude install kdelibs-devel
[11:01] <PhinnFort> morph_: this drags out more than it should...
[11:01] <PhinnFort> :(
[11:01] <PhinnFort> morph_: too long since I set up my build environment
[11:01] <morph_> omg
[11:01] <morph_> i see the problems
[11:01] <W8TAH> for some reason my computer runs hotter (as judged by fan speed ) under kubuntu than it does under windows while it is idleing (i dual boot) -- what (if anything) can i do to reduce that
[11:01] <scott__> if I download a rpm file...how do I unpack it?
[11:02] <morph_> phi
[11:02] <morph_> PhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32680/
[11:02] <morph_> didnt find that package
[11:02] <runlevelten> OK, what's a groupware suite an idiot could set up?
[11:02] <W8TAH> exchange
[11:02] <Karti> any idea why my cron task only copies accross a part of a file rather than the complete edition?
[11:02] <ircuser_about_to> so, is nvidia a bad choice for gnu/linux if i want to take use of suspend and hibernate? is there a software workaround for this? or... is it a hardware problem?
[11:02] <PhinnFort> morph_: dpkg -L kdelibs-dev
[11:02] <PhinnFort> sorry
[11:03] <PhinnFort> runlevelten: like Kontact?=
[11:03] <buck_> OKAY .. ON THE REINSTLAL NOW .. HOPEFULLY I WILL GET
[11:04] <buck_> it going
[11:05] <runlevelten> PhinnFort: as in the server
[11:05] <PhinnFort> runlevelten: there's one, that begins with a k
[11:05] <PhinnFort> can't remember the name though
[11:06] <runlevelten> Yeah I'm not sure kolab2 will cut it
[11:06] <PhinnFort> kolab it was
[11:07] <runlevelten> The primary consideration is that several mcse monkeyboys can set them up without intervention from a grown-up.
[11:07] <ircuser_about_to> anyone have any thoughts on the nvidia question i posted?
[11:07] <PhinnFort> runlevelten: I don't know about any other free ones
[11:08] <PhinnFort> runlevelten: but there are several proprietary ones
[11:08] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38696   yeah i rewrote it...    so sue me...
[11:08] <PhinnFort> I WILL!
[11:08] <PhinnFort> intelikey: tried that AcetoneISO thingy?
[11:09] <intelikey> no i haven't
[11:09] <morph_> PhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32680/
[11:09] <morph_> did you see the error?
[11:09] <PhinnFort> intelikey: sounds like what you would've wanted before you wrote it
[11:09] <morph_> file was not ofund
[11:09] <morph_> found*
[11:09] <intelikey> PhinnFort i'm a cli user   i just 'mount blah'   besides users can't mount anything on a nosuid system
[11:10] <PhinnFort> morph_: drop the -el
[11:10] <PhinnFort> morph_: just kdelibs-dev
[11:10] <Biovore> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbTEVbQLC8s <-- Qt4 dance.. lolz  so euro trash..
[11:11] <PhinnFort> Biovore: post it in #kde
[11:11] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[11:12] <intelikey> i mean really a user account has no avalable means whereby they can mount or dismount anything.   so if i wanted to test that i'd have to startx as root...
[11:12] <morph_> well thanks for your help
[11:12] <ubuntu__> !grub
[11:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:13] <morph_> PhinnFort: dont know what is going on but I will be upgrading to 7.10 soon
[11:13] <PhinnFort> morph_: it isn't really ready yet
[11:13] <PhinnFort> afaik
[11:14] <intelikey> did someone tell scott__ you don't   ?
[11:15] <intelikey> i was piddeling with settings in the irc client and missed that...
[11:15] <PhinnFort> intelikey: kdesu/sudo/...?
[11:15] <PhinnFort> or plain su -?
[11:15] <intelikey> nosuid
[11:15] <intelikey> none can work
[11:15] <PhinnFort> ah
[11:16] <PhinnFort> pita
[11:16] <PhinnFort> isn't that more insecure than not?
[11:16] <intelikey> PhinnFort how so ?
[11:17] <PhinnFort> intelikey: running a whole X-server, instead of allowing one user to have restricted access?
[11:17] <morph_> ok im out later all
[11:17] <PhinnFort> morph_: later
[11:17] <PhinnFort> ...as root
[11:17] <intelikey> PhinnFort what x server ?
[11:17] <intelikey> :)
[11:17] <PhinnFort> [23:12]  <intelikey> i mean really a user account has no avalable means whereby they can mount or dismount anything.   so if i wanted to test that i'd have to startx as root...
[11:17] <PhinnFort> :P
[11:18] <intelikey> yeah if i wanted to test that you mentioned...
[11:18] <intelikey> i don't.
[11:18] <intelikey> :)
[11:18] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:18] <PhinnFort> well, you still log in as root
[11:18] <intelikey> can't login period
[11:18] <intelikey> as root or anyone else
[11:18] <intelikey> i know.   :)
[11:19] <intelikey> i have init open me a shell.   and go from there.
[11:19] <PhinnFort> you must be some kind of freak or something?
[11:19] <PhinnFort> if that isn't insecure, I don't know
[11:19] <PhinnFort> init=/bin/sh?
[11:19] <Level15> lol
[11:19] <intelikey> PhinnFort no init is a custom init.
[11:20] <PhinnFort> may I ask why you want to handle your own logons, instead of use the true and tested PAM?
[11:20] <PhinnFort> (I assume you have some form for authentication)
[11:20] <Azzco> I've got a problem booting kubuntu after install... after bois I just get the messege GRUB and nothing else
[11:20] <intelikey> a "root kit" if you will      root kits are not of nessecity evil   only when others write/install them for you   :)
[11:21] <PhinnFort> root kit == kernel level programs that do no good, in my book;)
[11:21] <PhinnFort> I still don't understand completely how, and definately not why, you do it, but I guess that's out of my reach;)
[11:22] <intelikey> PhinnFort auth.   no i have a secure location.    and no box that someone else can have hands on, is secure.    root kit= adjusted kernel level operation of any sort
[11:22] <PhinnFort> intelikey: well, I don't even trust my own apartment
[11:22] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:22] <intelikey> correct.   and understood.
[11:22] <intelikey> time for me to run.     back later
[11:22] <PhinnFort> I guess you have a bunker with several different locks, fingerprint scanners, etc. to get access?
[11:23] <PhinnFort> oh, ok
[11:23] <PhinnFort> have fun
[11:23] <intelikey> k u 2
[11:25] <ryaren> hi
[11:26] <ryaren> Do u have any idea why slow my downloading speed?
[11:26] <ryaren> I have 6mbit connection but I'm downloading with 250kbyte/s
[11:26] <_gtt_> dang
[11:26] <Azzco> Does anyone know if it's possible to install a boot partition on a USB memory from livecd?
[11:26] <_gtt_> i had to re-write my xorg.conf
[11:27] <_gtt_> yes
[11:27] <_gtt_> you sure can
[11:27] <_gtt_> i suggest at least 4gigs though
[11:27] <Azzco> For just boot? o.O
[11:27] <_gtt_> yeah, it's what i'd recommend.
[11:27] <_gtt_> i can't gauruntee anything less would work, unless you did the server mode.
[11:28] <_gtt_> server mode you might be fine
[11:28] <Azzco> Okay well...just a grub on USB then?
[11:28] <Insane`KDE> Can anybody help me get Kaffeine to play dvds? My current player keeps crashing randomly
[11:29] <Azzco> Insane`KDE: you're probably looking for libdvdcss or something, google up medibuntu, you might want to look fro xine-extras or nonfree or something
[11:30] <bldzr> Insane`KDE: 'sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2'
[11:30] <Insane`KDE> I have xine-extras nonfree and libdvdcss2
[11:31] <jimmacdonald> anyone try to run WoW on Kubuntu yet?
[11:31] <PhinnFort> jimmacdonald: I think so
[11:32] <jimmacdonald> How and what do I need to do?
[11:32] <PhinnFort> jimmacdonald: should be more or less like under plain ubuntu
[11:32] <jimmacdonald> which is?
[11:32] <blackskyliner> jimmacdonald: yea I, but it freeze after i was online and in my tavern, after 3 or 5 seconds...
[11:32] <blackskyliner> anyone know the problem?
[11:33] <PhinnFort> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=312482
[11:33] <PhinnFort> jimmacdonald: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=312482
[11:33] <Insane`KDE> Currently, Kaffeine gives me the error "Error reading file, file contains no data
[11:33] <PhinnFort> Insane`KDE: stop giving it empty files then
[11:33] <PhinnFort> and try Codeine
[11:33] <Level15> lol
[11:34] <Insane`KDE> PhinnFort: Well funnily enought eh file ISN't empty, other programs play it just fine but randomly crash
[11:34] <ryaren_> Do u have any idea why slow my downloading speed?
[11:34] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: blame your Internet Service Provider
[11:34] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: in Ktorrent?
[11:35] <PhinnFort> Insane`KDE: try Codeine, and report back?
[11:35] <ryaren_> no
[11:35] <Insane`KDE> Codeine seems to work
[11:35] <ryaren_> bandwith test
[11:35] <Insane`KDE> I'll have to check though if it also randomly crashes, if so I'll come back
[11:35] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: those are all filthy, stinking lies
[11:36] <PhinnFort> heh, it did
[11:36] <ryaren_> but I've never seen higher downloading speed lik 250kbyte/s
[11:36] <ryaren_> in win I can always download with 600kbyte/s
[11:36] <blackskyliner> PhinnFort: in WOW i have the problem, I connect select my char and load it, after 5 seconds my complete pc freeze... any clue?    -- ATI Radeon x1900, Kubuntu Feisty
[11:37] <PhinnFort> blackskyliner: sorry, I don't play wow:(
[11:37] <PhinnFort> blackskyliner: try posting in the forums
[11:37] <blackskyliner> i think it a right problem to write or something... because before it crashes its performant
[11:37] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: try wget'ing an iso or something
[11:37] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: where in the world are you?
[11:38] <ryaren_> I'm from hungary
[11:38] <PhinnFort> i'll find a mirror close to you
[11:38] <ryaren_> thank you
[11:39] <vlad88> hi, I have a question about Samba and file permission
[11:39] <vlad88> anybody that can help me with it?
[11:40] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: open a konsole, and run "wget  http://ubuntu.bitmind.hu/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[11:40] <PhinnFort> !samba
[11:40] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:41] <vlad88> thank you, I'll read it first :D
[11:41] <blackskyliner> PhinnFort: I have aother question, I've installed SWAT for Samba but it's not aviable on port 901... it's the right prot or?
[11:41] <ryaren_> PhinnFort: Yes. The downloading speed stopped at 230 kbyte/s
[11:42] <vlad88> Yeah, I have the same question as blackskyliner, I installed it but no response from 901
[11:42] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: can you paste the output of dmesg?
[11:42] <PhinnFort> vlad88: did you start it?
[11:42] <PhinnFort> sudo /etc/init.d/swat start
[11:42] <vlad88> I installed smb4k instead
[11:42] <PhinnFort> or something
[11:42] <ryaren_> yes
[11:42] <PhinnFort> tried smb:// in konqueror?
[11:43] <vlad88> I did this: sudo update-inetd --enable 'swat'
[11:43] <ircuser_about_to> so, is nvidia a bad choice for gnu/linux if i want to take use of suspend and hibernate? is there a software workaround for this? or... is it a hardware problem?
[11:45] <ryaren_> PhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32686/plain/
[11:45] <NickPresta> ircuser_about_to, what do you mean? Which problems with suspend/hibernate?
[11:46] <blackskyliner> PhinnFort: SWAT seems to freeze after i start it, i cant kill it, any clue?
[11:46] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: I can't see anything unusual
[11:46] <PhinnFort> ryaren_: maybe try to disable ipv6
[11:46] <PhinnFort> !ipv6 | ryaren_
[11:46] <ubotu> ryaren_: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:46] <ircuser_about_to> NickPresta: i saw someone in one of the channels earlier this week complain about how suspend (or was it hibernate?) wouldn't work because the hibernate process couldn't rmmod nvidia modules
[11:46] <PhinnFort> blackskyliner: sorry, I don't have any windows machines in this house (macs only)
[11:46] <vlad88> PhinnFort -> Thanks for the link, I did a quick review, and I have fstab ok according it, and yes, it works, but there's something that I don't like, when I create a new file in a samba mounted device,there's a warning about it can't write permissions :(
[11:47] <vlad88> it's just a warning, cause if I clic "ok" in that box everything is ok (no corruption or anything like that)
[11:47] <ryaren_> !nvidia
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <ircuser_about_to> also, if a system is put on hibernate, does that mean wtmp / utmp logs it as a shutdown or a reboot?
[11:48] <blackskyliner> vlad88: have the user the right on the linux machine to write the dir and have u writeable on?
[11:49] <Fragility> what might it mean if it takes my command like like a minute to show up after opening the terminal?
[11:49] <Fragility> shouldnt that be really quick even on a slow computer?
[11:49] <vlad88> blackskyliner ->  yes, in fact I can move, cut, paste, etc, etc. but the problem is when creating _new_ files
[11:49] <vlad88> blackskyliner -> it's just a warning about it can't set the file permissions
[11:50] <vlad88> but it does not block anything, but I would wish to stop that message from appearing
[11:50] <blackskyliner> vlad88 its normal.... I have the same problem u do it with konquer or?
[11:50] <vlad88> konqueror
[11:50] <blackskyliner> y
[11:51] <vlad88> there's not way to avoid it to appear?
[11:51] <blackskyliner> Its because it will set the rights after copying, but u cant set the rights ohn a remote machine via samba
[11:51] <vlad88> oh
[11:51] <vlad88> so bad
[11:51] <blackskyliner> i think
[11:51] <frode_> question: i have low reception signal with my wireless network in linux. when i plug the wireless card in another computer, running windows, the signal is much better. i wonder why? any solutions?
[11:51] <vlad88> with ntfs-3g there's an option when mounting: "silent" so that message does not appear
[11:52] <evri2> Guys what is the <super key> in compiz-fusion settings?
[11:52] <blackskyliner> i dont know it 100% but i think so vlad888 :)
[11:52] <vlad88> blackskyliner -> anything is better than nothing, thank you :D
[11:52] <blackskyliner> no problem :)
[11:54] <Azzco> Okay I need some help booting my kubuntu installation..
[11:55] <Azzco> I just get "GRUB" on my screen nothing else...
[11:55] <Dragnslcr> evri2- on most keyboards it's the Windows ket
[11:55] <Dragnslcr> key
[11:55] <Dragnslcr> evri2- it's whatever else is down in the corner with ctrl and alt
[11:56] <blackskyliner> *arzt
[11:56] <blackskyliner> ohh
[11:56] <blackskyliner> wron channel sry
[12:00] <koyo001> need help removable drive
[12:00] <koyo001> cannot mount it
[12:00] <koyo001> or dont know how to mount it
[12:01] <koyo001> can someone help me
[12:01] <klobster> it should automount
[12:02] <vzduch> or at least it should pop up a requester asking what to do
[12:02] <koyo001> from where do i access it__
[12:02] <koyo001> i wanna copy my files
[12:02] <whizadree> hey
[12:03] <klobster> try /media
[12:03] <klobster> it should be a folder in there
[12:04] <koyo001> its not
[12:04] <koyo001> tried
[12:04] <whizadree> any rules in here?
[12:05] <koyo001> what is the main ubuntu forum for help???
[12:05] <klobster> it's here
[12:05] <klobster> !patience
[12:05] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:05] <NickPresta> koyo001, http://ubuntuforums.org/
[12:06] <koyo001> thanks nickpresta
[12:06] <whizadree> thers also https://help.ubuntu.com/ i guess
[12:06] <klobster> koyo001: what type of drive is it?
[12:07] <koyo001> klobster: seagate 250gig removable drive
[12:08] <klobster> firewire or USB?
[12:08] <koyo001> not sure
[12:10] <koyo001> klobster: usb 2.0
[12:10] <whizadree> well i have a darndest problem and wonder if anyone can help here , i have dell inspiron e1705 aka as the 9400 , and it has been one pain after another , trying to install Kubuntu ... i really just want to get rid of vista eck! and be able to run Kub'
[12:11] <koyo001> klobster: removable drive
[12:11] <klobster> koyo001: can you run dmesg and paste the output to  http://dpaste.com/
[12:13] <adenicio> how to decible shared option and control option(from people no to activate to allowd to control my mouse n keyboard)
[12:14] <koyo001> klobster:http://dpaste.com/16072/
[12:15] <adenicio> how to stop shared option and control option(from people no to activate to allowd to control my mouse n keyboard)