[00:00] <jcgkffycs> nosrednaekim i put the output on pastebin http://pastebin.com/m7e707d9d
[00:00] <BluesKaj> the fix didn't work for my setup  I'm afrid
[00:00] <nosrednaekim> perfect... thanks
[00:00] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, lang-pack problems? I just updated :X
[00:01] <flipstar> NickPresta: only for those that have the canadian language pack installed
[00:01] <NickPresta> flipstar, like en-ca?
[00:01] <nosrednaekim> jcgkffycs» uhh you shouldbe getting borders.... no errors there
[00:01] <junaid> hi all
[00:02] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta» just -en and -base
[00:02] <junaid> how do i check which kubuntu i have on my machine
[00:02] <NickPresta> junaid, lsb_release -a
[00:02] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta» but it only seems to effect canucks...
[00:02] <jcgkffycs> I had borders, but i couldn't move any of the windows, then i restarted and the borders went away
[00:02] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, nosrednaekim , it seems to be much more than just lang-pack probs ... I tried the location as US on the last install but that din't make any diff
[00:03] <junaid> can any one refer me to a link where i find  instructions on how to install compiz in kubuntu
[00:03] <NickPresta> What are the problems or symptoms?
[00:03] <NickPresta> !compiz | junaid
[00:03] <ubotu> junaid: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:03] <BluesKaj> !compiz
[00:04] <junaid> thanks
[00:04] <BluesKaj> NickPresta:  updated X ...how?
[00:06] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, I just updated. :X = emoticon for "being silent"
[00:07] <matt_> Ok, so I have a NTFS formatted hdd with about 60gb of files on it.  Reformatting isn't exactly an option I willing to take, but Kubuntu will not let me change permissions for the drive.  I have it mounted no problem, but I can't delete any files or edit/write to it.  Any way I  can fix this?
[00:07] <BluesKaj> NickPresta:  login page and tty's aren't accessible on generic, recovery got a tty prompt but the launchpad fix didn't help me
[00:07] <jcgkffycs> nosrednaekim: since I know it did at one point work, is there a way to completely remove and reinstall it as if it were never installed?
[00:07] <ere4si> matt_, is ntfs-3g installed?
[00:07] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, okay. I won't logout or go to a tty until there is a fix :)
[00:07] <Jahromeo> argg -kiba dock jsut made my taskbar huge and black
[00:08] <punkn00dlez> Lemme check. I think it is...
[00:08] <Arwen> Jahromeo, docks suck anyway
[00:08] <Jahromeo> snore make it go away :P
[00:08] <Jahromeo> i cant see what irc windows etc i have open
[00:08] <Jahromeo> this huge black bar at the bottom
[00:08] <BluesKaj> NickPresta:  yeah, don't ..mkae sure you remove language-pack-en-base
[00:09] <alethes> I just did an update and now kde won't start and I get an error about being unable to contact kdeinit...is this a known issue?
[00:09] <BluesKaj> err make sure that you do remove it
[00:10] <BluesKaj> i think kubuntu developers otta be ashamed for sending down such a mess ...I think they owe a lotta ppl an apology for this mess
[00:10] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, no it is not currently installed.  I did try and install ti however, it installed no problem,but when it was installed, I still couldn't do anything.  BTW, I kicked Windows to the curb, so it's not even on my system at all...stupid thing crashed one too many times.
[00:12] <BluesKaj> punkn00dlez:  don't be too quick to rid of windows if you want this latest offering from kubuntu ...be careful what you wish for
[00:12] <Jahromeo> how do i customize my taskbar to not get in the way of kiba -dock?
[00:12] <alethes> BluesKaj is that language-pack-en-base package related to my issue?
[00:12] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, how is it mounted - fstab?
[00:12] <BluesKaj> alethes:  not sure ...it affects different systems in different ways
[00:13] <punkn00dlez> I assume so. I'm still pretty new at this ubuntu stuff.  But I did take a looksie at it once and it said it was
[00:13] <alethes> I did see an error about a .po file, so it's possible
[00:14] <alethes> BluesKaj didn't fix it :/
[00:14] <alethes> still can't start x now
[00:14] <kai> hello all
[00:14] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, yes, it seems to be mounted in fstab.  this is the last line: /dev/hdb1 /hdb1 ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,users 0 0
[00:15] <punkn00dlez> The owner is set for me, instead of root. Still nothing.  When I go into properties to allow read and write, it says it can't change it
[00:16] <kai> Im having a serious problem with me kDE
[00:16] <alethes> is anybody able to tell me what needs to happen so I can start X after the latest update?
[00:16] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, still think you need ntfs-3g from what I've read - I've never used ntfs or xp
[00:16] <BluesKaj> alethes:  i'm in the middle od another install, but this time I'm not taking any upgrades ... gonna hide that adept notifier where the sun don't shine :)
[00:16] <Daisuke_Ido> alethes: apparently there's a vendetta against canadians
[00:16] <alethes> hehe
[00:16] <ere4si> !ntfs-3g
[00:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[00:17] <alethes> Daisuke_Ido that's ok, I'm American :D
[00:17] <alethes> hehe
[00:17] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido: iset up the last install as location NYC and that din't make any diff
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> but what language pack?
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> en-CA?
[00:17] <BluesKaj> enus
[00:17] <alethes> honestly no idea
[00:17] <BluesKaj> repos enus
[00:17] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, did you see the ntfs-3g link?
[00:18] <alethes> I uninstalled the language-pack-en-base package and it didn't make a difference
[00:18] <punkn00dlez> Yes. I've installed it through Adept again.  Do I need to reboot?
[00:18] <BluesKaj> i don'r use the en-ca lang pack , never have afaik
[00:19] <beautifulsnow> Hey Kubuntu people: in Ubuntu, There's a program Add/Remove programs that makes it very easy to install/remove apps. Other than apt-get and synaptic, what is available for Kubunters?
[00:19] <ere4si> !ntfs-3g | punkn00dlez,
[00:19] <ubotu> punkn00dlez,: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[00:19] <alethes> beautifulsnow adept
[00:19] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, read the instructions :)
[00:19] <beautifulsnow> Thats apt-get, isnt it? :-/
[00:20] <alethes> not anymore than synaptic is :P
[00:20] <BluesKaj> it's afront end for apt
[00:20] <punkn00dlez> Alright, lemme check it out for sec.
[00:20] <kai> when f i let set idle to long it locks my cou and doens;t respond to mouse events im using kde 3.5.8 Does any one else have any similiar problems
[00:20] <alethes> man I hope heron is better than gutsy :/
[00:20] <BanTam> it didnt work
[00:21] <BanTam> i got stuck at a blank screen
[00:21] <BanTam> with the cursor flashing at the top
[00:21] <beautifulsnow> heron is more recent than gutsy? (sorry I looked online but coudnt find the info anywhere ^^;;; )
[00:21] <BluesKaj> and the probs continue
[00:21] <flipstar> jep it is
[00:21] <beautifulsnow> thanks flip ^^
[00:21] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, I've got ntfs-config installed.  Whenever I go to run the config tool it doesn't do anything
[00:22] <BluesKaj> bbiab ..see how this one goes
[00:22] <flipstar> beautifulsnow: it is not even released..still an alpha..
[00:23] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, I have no experience with that - sorry - isn't there somewhere in your fstab entry that you have to mention ntfs-3g?
[00:23] <beautifulsnow> flipstar finally found something online, its going to be released april .. wheee its almost there, can't wait ^_^
[00:23] <alethes> you're new around here, eh? :)
[00:23] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, I have no idea. Like I said, I don't exactly know what I'm doing.
[00:23] <alethes> kubuntu along with the other variations of ubuntu are released every  6 months, beautifulsnow
[00:24] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, that link would have told you...
[00:24] <Jahromeo> how do i remove my bottom panel - its in the way of my dock - right click - remove panel is greyed out, any ideas?
[00:24] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, it says nothing about fstab
[00:25] <punkn00dlez> ere4si, only for FAT32 partitions
[00:26] <Jahromeo>  how the hell do i disable my bottom panel
[00:26] <Jahromeo> its annoying me grrr
[00:26] <ere4si> punkn00dlez, I don't do windows so maybe someone with more experience with it can help - sorry
[00:26] <flipstar> Jahromeo: you mean kicker ? you can drag and drop it
[00:26] <punkn00dlez> It's all good, thank you for your help though.
[00:26] <ere4si> k
[00:27] <Jahromeo> flipstar i wish to remove "kicker"
[00:27] <Jahromeo> its in the way of my dock :(
[00:27] <flipstar> then just kill it
[00:27] <Jahromeo> how do i disable it?
[00:27] <gabriel_> tem algum br ae
[00:27] <gabriel_> ?
[00:28] <gabriel_> br
[00:28] <flipstar> ctrl+esc and search for it..or use konsole killall kicker
[00:28] <gabriel_> #canalbr
[00:28] <Jahromeo> flip i dont want to have to do that every boot
[00:28] <flipstar> !br > gabriel_
[00:28] <gabriel_> thanks
[00:28] <dogma_> !pidgin
[00:28] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.   I got the menu back to normal, but my icon on my tray has changed and I can't figure out how to change it back.
[00:39] <prince_jammys> TheGonk: try restarting kicker
[00:40] <prince_jammys> TheGonk: killall kicker;kicker
[00:40] <TheGonk> Ahh...I figured it out.  I had added a "sub menu" directly to the bar, and couldn't see my K Menu.  I added my K Menu, then had 2 K Menus, deleted one and the sub menu I had added, and back to normal.
[00:40] <alethes> dcop kicker kicker restart
[00:40] <TheGonk> Learning experience
[00:40] <TheGonk> Thanks
[00:43] <dogma_> dont arrive to install everything..
[00:44] <Jahromeo> any basic tutorials that i can look at to pimp my system with kiba-dock
[00:45] <Jahromeo> how do i get flash for konqueror?
[00:46] <swatto> whats the calculator command for Kubuntu please?
[00:46] <flipstar> speedcrunch
[00:47] <Jahromeo> what flash plugin do i need for konqueror?
[00:47] <flipstar> !gnash
[00:47] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[00:47] <flipstar> !flash
[00:47] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:47] <Jahromeo> so its gnash needed and not flashplugin-nonfree or whatever its called?
[00:48] <flipstar> no thtese are different things
[00:48] <swatto> Is there a command to open speedcrunch please flipstar
[00:49] <flipstar> .. speedcrunch is the command to open SpeedCrunch ..
[00:49] <swatto> kk cheers
[00:50] <Jahromeo> what is the nonfree flash plugin name?
[00:51] <BanTam> Arwen you around?
[00:51] <Arwen> yes
[00:51] <BanTam> it didnt work
[00:51] <Arwen> Jahromeo, flashplugin-nonfree
[00:51] <BanTam> :(
[00:51] <Arwen> BanTam, what happen?
[00:51] <Jahromeo> hmm i have flashplugin-nonfree installed but i cant view youtube vids....?
[00:51] <BanTam> i got stuck at a blank screen
[00:51] <Jahromeo> do i need to select it somewhere in firefox/konqueror
[00:52] <Arwen> BanTam, paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:52] <dogma_> why kopete dont appear in add/remove programs? i have already download it
[00:52] <Arwen> or whatever the appropriate file is
[00:52] <Jahromeo> press alt+f2 - type kopete
[00:52] <Jahromeo> or check internet - kopete
[00:53] <BanTam> http://pastebin.com/m515ecb51
[00:54] <BanTam> not sure if thats going to help you  though
[00:54] <BanTam> i had to revert back to my old xorg.conf to reboot
[00:55] <dogma_> i became crazy
[00:55] <xxBasYxx> is there any profi flash studio on kubuntu?
[00:55] <BanTam> this is the xorg.conf file i used
[00:55] <BanTam> http://pastebin.com/m6629692a
[00:56] <Jahromeo> Download done.
[00:56] <Jahromeo> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[00:56] <Jahromeo> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[00:56] <MartinCleaver> lvm2 - unmounted filesystem
[00:56] <MartinCleaver> how do I tell how much space is being used without mounting it?
[00:56] <Jahromeo> did i do something wrong when i uninstalled i did sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree , then i did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:57] <xxBasYxx> Jahromeo: there is a bug in flash package
[00:57] <david_> hi there
[00:57] <dogma_> somebody speak french here?
[00:57] <flipstar> MartinCleaver: try df -h
[00:57] <MartinCleaver> sorry, ext3 filesystem unmounted
[00:57] <david_> I have a question about a fresh
[00:57] <Jahromeo> so it seems xxbasyxx - is it broken atm?
[00:57] <david_> installation
[00:57] <MartinCleaver> doesn't show, its unmounted
[00:57] <flipstar> !fr > dogma_
[00:58] <dogma_> thanks ;)
[00:58] <xxBasYxx> Jahromeo: i have same problem 2 moths ago.. can't find that forum now :(
[00:58] <xxBasYxx> you have to download fixed package
[00:59] <david_> when I go to   add/remove programs   I get no list of programs
[00:59] <flipstar> this thing is still not fixed ?
[01:00] <Jahromeo> downloading it off adobe website now
[01:00] <Jahromeo> tar.gz file
[01:00]  * MartinCleaver wonders whether dumpe2fs will tell him how much space is being used
[01:00] <flipstar> "This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix."
[01:00] <Jahromeo> thanks flip
[01:00] <david_> why dont I get a list of programs to download off of add/remove programs?
[01:01] <david_> I only have a list of what I already have
[01:01] <david_> I have fresh install of 7.10
[01:02] <xxBasYxx> im lookin for some flash editor for kubuntu... is there anythig?
[01:02] <Jahromeo> david_ run synaptic or adept manager
[01:02] <flipstar> david_: use adept and deselect not installed ..
[01:02] <david_> ok
[01:02] <ridell> hola
[01:02] <flipstar> !search flash editor | xxBasYxx
[01:02] <ubotu> Found: gconf-#ubuntu-effects, code, keys-#ubuntu-effects, flash64, brokenflash, splash, brokenkde4*, gedit, vim, flashissues
[01:03] <NickPresta> !es | ridell
[01:03] <ubotu> ridell: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:03] <ridell> hi everyone
[01:03] <ridell> i'm herwe
[01:03] <ridell> here
[01:03] <Randuni> hi all, I have the following error in kdm.log after upgrading the kde-libs kubuntu package: kdecore (KLocale): WARNING: Definition of PluralForm is none of NoPlural/TwoForms/French/OneTwoRest/Russian/Polish/Slovenian/Lithuanian/Czech/Slovak/Arabic/Balcan/Macedonian/Gaeilge/Maltese: Definition of PluralForm - to be set by the translator of kdelibs.po
[01:04] <ridell> somebody there?
[01:04] <Randuni> I see in the forums some people say sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en
[01:04] <Randuni> is that the "official" fix?
[01:05] <flipstar> no..
[01:05] <ridell> oui
[01:05] <Randuni> ?
[01:05] <flipstar> no this is not an official fix
[01:05] <Randuni> okay...is it the only fix at this time?
[01:06] <ridell> ça va?
[01:06] <Randuni> ridell?...tu parle le francais?
[01:06] <BanTam> Arwen ya still with me?
[01:06] <ridell> oui
[01:06] <Randuni> bon
[01:06] <flipstar> your error is different from the language pack error
[01:06] <Arwen> BanTam, ye
[01:06] <BanTam> just checkin :)
[01:07] <Randuni> I was recently notified that there are 4 updates for my kubuntu
[01:07] <Arwen> BanTam, oh, sorry, didn't notice your files >_>
[01:07] <Arwen> one second
[01:07] <BanTam> np
[01:07] <ridell> hey everyone i'm free if i wanna talk free is not ur bussiness ok
[01:07] <BanTam> the instructions i got say i need this...
[01:07] <BanTam> A recent version of the free Xorg, WITHOUT any binary graphics driver installed.
[01:07] <BanTam> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773710
[01:07] <Arwen> BanTam, your MetaModes option is still broken
[01:08] <Arwen> #
[01:08] <Arwen> #
[01:08] <Arwen>         Option "MetaModes" "1024x768" "1024x768"
[01:08] <icanhasadmin> Anyone know a quick way of checking if I have Visual C++ installed or not?
[01:08] <Arwen> should be:
[01:08] <ridell> and i wanna talk french ok
[01:08] <Arwen> Option "MetaModes" "1024x768-1024x768"
[01:08] <BanTam> ok
[01:08] <NickPresta> !fr | ridell
[01:08] <ubotu> ridell: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:08] <NickPresta> icanhasadmin, are you talking about visual c++ (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/visualc/default.aspx)?
[01:08] <Jahromeo> just install flash from the adobe site that worked
[01:08] <ridell> but is not fair
[01:08] <flipstar> icanhasadmin: apt-cache policy <packet>
[01:09] <ridell> i do u said that
[01:09] <icanhasadmin> NickPresta: Yes, nevermind I just answered my own question. Thank you :)
[01:09] <ridell> ?
[01:09] <Arwen> BanTam, also, I see fglrx loading in your Xorg.0.log for some reason
[01:09] <Arwen> did you reboot?
[01:09] <Arwen> and uninstall it?
[01:09] <BanTam> yes
[01:09] <ridell> ok
[01:09] <ridell> i get it
[01:09] <BanTam> i had to put back my xorg.conf file to reboot
[01:09] <ridell> any female from canada?
[01:10] <flipstar> !info female
[01:10] <ubotu> Package female does not exist in gutsy
[01:10] <Arwen> BanTam, oh, I see
[01:10] <BanTam> HOW should i uninstall the ati proprietary drivers?
[01:11] <Arwen> apt-get remove
[01:11] <BanTam> i dunno the nam of the drivers though
[01:11] <BanTam> name
[01:11] <david_> sweet it worked
[01:11] <david_> thanks
[01:11] <Arwen> apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:11] <Arwen> but if it's envy, I dunno
[01:11] <BanTam> well all envy dos is install the ati drivers
[01:12] <BanTam> then it uses a VESA driver
[01:12] <NickPresta> !envy | BanTam if you haven't seen this
[01:12] <ubotu> BanTam if you haven't seen this: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:12] <icanhasadmin> Question. If I'm downloading core microsoft fonts (like arial), do I have to install them into wine or are there 'linux friendly' versions available?
[01:12] <Arwen> NickPresta, telling him that now doesn't really accomplish much now though
[01:12] <ridell> where can i looking for some drivers for printer hp deskjet 1020?
[01:12] <Arwen> icanhasadmin, wine will use them automagically
[01:12] <Arwen> install them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[01:12] <NickPresta> icanhasadmin, msttcorefonts is the package you want.
[01:13] <icanhasadmin> Thank you both, can i apt-get install msttcorefonts?
[01:13] <Arwen> and if you have a Windows install, you can do "ln -s <windows mount point>/WINDOWS/Fonts /usr/share/fonts/truetype/winfonts"
[01:13] <NickPresta> Arwen, I know. I am informing him that envy isn't supported and he should be thankful that you're helping him :)
[01:13] <Arwen> icanhasadmin, yes
[01:13] <BanTam> im extremly thankful, i never said or implied i wasnt
[01:13] <Arwen> I link the fonts from my Windows install, gets me all of em with no waste of disk space :-)
[01:13] <Randuni> 2008-02-26 19:07:18 status installed language-pack-en 1:7.10+20080205
[01:13] <Randuni> 2008-02-26 19:07:18 status installed language-pack-kde-en 1:7.10+20080205
[01:13] <Randuni> 2008-02-26 19:07:38 status installed language-pack-en-base 1:7.10+20080205
[01:13] <Randuni> 2008-02-26 19:07:38 status installed language-pack-kde-en-base 1:7.10+20080205
[01:14] <Tonren> How can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being rewritten every time I restart?
[01:14] <icanhasadmin> lol these days there's a lot of disk space to go around, I respect the efficiency tho ;)
[01:14] <Arwen> BanTam, back to the point, try with the corrected MetaModes line
[01:14] <BanTam> ok
[01:14] <flipstar> a lot? yes enough? no
[01:15] <BanTam> i fixed that, so i use the restricted drivers now?
[01:15] <Arwen> GAH, Hardy's firefox3 is NOT SHOWING IMAGES
[01:15] <Arwen> BanTam, noo. you don't want any restricted drivers at all if you're trying this.
[01:15] <beautifulsnow> Theres images of hardy already ? O.o
[01:15] <BanTam> ok
[01:15] <Arwen> beautifulsnow, 5 of em in fact
[01:15] <NickPresta> beautifulsnow, hardy is in Alpha 5 now, IIRC
[01:16] <beautifulsnow> I went on google images and put "hardy".... *crosses eyes in pain*
[01:17] <BanTam> let me try this brb
[01:18] <david_> After a year (or a tad over) of using linux solely, I went back to windows just to play around and I could not stop with the sinister snicker...the whole time saying to myself " Oh yeah, I keep forgetting.. I cant do that with here".
[01:19] <flipstar> Arwen: is you sure that firefox wont show images in hardy ?
[01:19] <david_> meant to say... "I cant do that here"
[01:19] <Arwen> flipstar, yeah. I think the bug is in xulrunner, but...
[01:19] <flipstar> then look at this :) http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2669/ff3tg5.png
[01:20] <Arwen> !worksforme
[01:20] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:20] <Arwen> seems to be video card specific for some god-unknown reason
[01:20] <BanTam> well
[01:20] <Arwen> there's even an open bug about it
[01:20] <BanTam> i got one monitor
[01:20] <BanTam> but the resolution is like 640x480
[01:20] <Arwen> hmm, xorg.0.log pelase
[01:20] <Arwen> please*
[01:21] <BanTam> as it boted i had 2 monitors until i entered my pwrd then the 2nd monitor went out and the resolution chaned
[01:21] <Arwen> it worked until you logged in?
[01:21] <Arwen> were they spanned or mirrored?
[01:22] <Tonren> Anyone...?  How can I stop ~/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 from being rewritten every time I restart?
[01:22] <Arwen> Tonren, chmod 000 ~/.kde/share/config/gtkc-2.0 will probably work
[01:22] <Arwen> now, whether or not that's what you want...
[01:23] <Tonren> Arwen: Yeah yeah... the car won't have trouble starting if you blow it up.  It just won't exist.  ;-P
[01:23] <BanTam> SOB it wont let me paste, when i paste nothing comes out
[01:23] <BanTam> DAMMIT
[01:24] <Tonren> Arwen: I'm mystified, here.    I Googled it too.
[01:24] <Arwen> BanTam, o.O
[01:24] <Arwen> thank the lord the dualhead nonsense is fixed in Hardy :-P
[01:25] <flipstar> Tonren: did you taked a look at the file ?
[01:25] <flipstar> especially the first lines
[01:25] <BanTam> so how do i paste this now?
[01:25] <Arwen> BanTam, slowly? :-P
[01:25] <Tonren> flipstar: Of course!  I couldn't very well edit it without taking a look.
[01:25] <BanTam> this has been a total headache
[01:25] <Arwen> BanTam, scroll through it and look for errors and stuff
[01:25] <crazy_bus> I need java to access blackboard but I'm not sure whether I should use the official plugins or icedtea.  Which would people recommend?
[01:25] <flipstar> hah it just says what to do ..
[01:26] <Tonren> flipstar: It says what to do if you *don't* want KDE to override my GTK settings.
[01:26] <Tonren> flipstar: I do--I just don't want that damn line to show up.
[01:26] <BanTam> WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[01:27] <Arwen> that would be a problem... moving on
[01:27] <BanTam> i see a bunch of stuff
[01:27] <BanTam> too much to paste in here
[01:27] <flipstar> Tonren: so why dont you edit it and say kde to not override...?
[01:28] <Tonren> flipstar: Because I don't want to spend 3 hours tweaking it by hand to match my KDE theme.
[01:28] <Arwen> BanTam, eh. X-related issues are nightmares to solve over IRC :-\
[01:28] <Tonren> Arwen: howcome?
[01:28] <Arwen> Tonren, massive logs...
[01:28] <Tonren> Ahh, true
[01:29] <Tonren> I usually open irssi in a screen window, and I have a command line script for sending files to pastebins
[01:29] <Arwen> BanTam, if you let me log in to your box, I might be able to help more, but alas :-P
[01:29] <BanTam> sure tell me how
[01:29] <BanTam> i got nothing to lose
[01:29] <BanTam> lol
[01:29] <Arwen> lolol
[01:30] <Arwen> !ssh | BanTam
[01:30] <ubotu> BanTam: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:30] <Arwen> but um... careful with strangers
[01:31] <BanTam> i hear ya
[01:31] <BanTam> like i said i got nothing on here right now im worried about losing so it dont matter
[01:32] <BanTam> so what am i doing here? i gotta install ssh?
[01:32] <flipstar> why dont you just open a query..
[01:32] <Arwen> BanTam, basically, apt-get install openssh-server, make sure your router isn't in the way, and give me your login password (if you dare)
[01:33] <BanTam> ill pm it to you
[01:33] <david_> my screen blacks out then comes back when I an in adept
[01:33] <BanTam> arwen check your msg
[01:33] <alethes> is there a solution for the kdeinit issue that has come up since the latest update?
[01:34] <pcmax> Sysinfo for 'PCMAX': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 2629 MHz (5264 bogomips), , RAM: 668/1011MB, 110 proc's, 22.35min up
[01:34] <david_> do I need my video driver installed?
[01:34] <Arwen> BanTam, didn't get one. Are you a registered user on FreeNode?
[01:34] <BanTam> umm dont think so
[01:34] <Arwen> alternatively, you can join #anon32 (my private channel)
[01:35] <BanTam> im in there
[01:35] <david_> it doesnt tell me that 3d exceleration is on or not
[01:35] <alethes> hmmm ok, can somebody suggest a distro that isn't broken? :)
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> alethes,  i have very few issues with ubuntu.  :)
[01:36] <alethes> I usually don't have any issues either
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> ive not noticed any kdeinit issues either.
[01:36] <alethes> but now I can't start x because of a broken update
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> all i been doing lately is playing wesnoth. :)
[01:38] <MuNzE> Sysinfo for 'mi-desktop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4800 bogomips), HD: 295/471GB, RAM: 2906/3546MB, 145 proc's, 4.53h up
[01:38] <Roge> my panel has vanished in kde4, anyone know how i mite get it back ?
[01:39] <flipstar> alethes: if the update broke you, just uninstall it ..
[01:40] <dogma_> !fr
[01:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:41] <prince_jammys> Roge try alt f2 and type "kicker"
[01:41] <david_> does linux run ok on a quad core system? I should have checked before ordering one?
[01:41] <Roge> prince_jammys, that loads the kde 3 panel
[01:41] <prince_jammys> Roge: ah
[01:43] <tcm_> Roge: run 'plasma'
[01:43] <david_> does anyone know?
[01:43] <Roge> ill try that tcm_
[01:43] <Roge> ty
[01:43] <root___> que es esto
[01:43] <prince_jammys> !es | root___
[01:43] <ubotu> root___: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:43] <Roge> tcm_,  seems that command does not exsist
[01:43] <david_> does linux run ok on a quad core system? I guess I should have checked before ordering one.
[01:44] <prince_jammys> !kde4
[01:44] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:44] <Roge> no one alive in the kde4 channel
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> david_,  should run fine
[01:44] <root___> qu es esto
[01:45] <prince_jammys> root___: es el canal de ayuda para ubuntu
[01:45] <flipstar> david_: 8 ~ 1,024 cpus are no problem
[01:45] <prince_jammys> root___: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:45] <root___> y para que sirve esto
[01:45]  * Dr_willis_ installs dos on a octacore system to play doom real fast!
[01:45] <Dr_willis_> :)
[01:45] <noodles12> hey. you know how the icon bounces on our mouse. What is that called so i can change it?
[01:45] <Dr_willis_> noodles12,  launch feedback - i belive
[01:46] <Jahromeo> holy crud this box feels slow with kiba-dock - yet its a 2.4ghz quad with 4gb ram
[01:46] <prince_jammys> root___: para problemas relacionados con ubuntu. pero este canal es ayuda en ingles nada mas
[01:46] <root___> y como hago para cambiarlo a español
[01:46] <david_> good thanks
[01:46] <prince_jammys> root___: teclea /join #ubuntu-es
[01:46] <icanhasadmin> anyone know where in windows to find comctl32.dll? /system32?
[01:47] <flipstar> !windows | icanhasadmin
[01:47] <ubotu> icanhasadmin: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[01:47] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: /mnt/windows/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/dllcache/comctl32.dll
[01:47] <noodles12> Dr_willis_: thanks
[01:48] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: with your mount point obviously :)
[01:48] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: oh and like you said also in: /mnt/windows/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/comctl32.dll
[01:49] <icanhasadmin> ...well thank you. I don't think the forced !command was necesary :P
[01:49] <icanhasadmin> :D :D you guys are the best as always
[01:50] <icanhasadmin> I have an even dumber question... 2 partitions on my windows drive, i'm guessing they are different mnt points? and how do i tell them apart?
[01:51] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: how do you mean? there's two windows installations?
[01:51] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: each should have its own mount point
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  try the 'mount' command - see whats mounted where.. and look at the contents of the mountpoints
[01:51] <icanhasadmin> tyty
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> many windows machines have a 'recovery' partitin these days.
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> You really dont need it mounted under linux. :)
[01:51] <Arwen> ^^ - which is an evil waste of disk space
[01:51] <Arwen> delete it
[01:51] <david_> how do I get my NVidia video card driver installed
[01:51] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: yes, "mount" by itself should show you what's mounted. sudo not necessary
[01:52] <icanhasadmin> it says /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1.. why are there 2 points?
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> Arwen,  seen that break a few windows machines for my friends. :)
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  thats ONE mount point.
[01:52] <Arwen> o.O
[01:52] <icanhasadmin> lol@arwins discspace saving ocd
[01:52] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: there aren't.   /media/sda1 is the mount point  /dev/blah is the device
[01:52] <icanhasadmin> thank you
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> !mount
[01:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:52] <icanhasadmin> sorry i get confused. Once you tell me tho i'm ok for life ;)
[01:53] <icanhasadmin> is it normal for kubuntu to mount windows in /media?
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> learning how linux mounts filesystes,.... Is one of the top 10 things to learn.. on yoyur path to Linux-Leetness. :)
[01:53] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: yes, that's standard in ubuntu
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  every thing normally gets mounted  in /media/SOMTHING
[01:53] <icanhasadmin> Dr_willis_: don't plan on being leet, but thank you :)
[01:53] <BluesKaj> there's no text in my xorg.config file ...what gives?
[01:53] <draik> Hey all
[01:54] <draik> I got a minor issue. Don't know if this is something I did wrong or possibly a bug...
[01:54] <draik> No command arguments supplied!
[01:54] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: /media is how ubuntu does it.  i put mine on /mnt some time ago.  you can mount wherever you want
[01:54] <david_> my screen blacks out then comes back when I am in adept
[01:54] <draik> Usage : kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command>
[01:54] <draik> KdeSudo will now exit...
[01:54] <Dr_willis_> draik,  and what was the command you gave?
[01:54] <flipstar> draik: as it says you have to supply an command
[01:55] <prince_jammys> draik: paste what you typed
[01:55] <draik> Dr_willis_: flipstar: I haven't. This is a popup message when I login to my account.
[01:55] <draik> prince_jammys: ^^^
[01:55] <prince_jammys> gotcha
[01:55] <Dr_willis_> sounds like you got a session item saved incorrectly
[01:55] <BluesKaj> how does one generate a  xorg.config file ?
[01:55] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: xorg.conf?
[01:56] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: the file is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:56] <draik> Dr_willis_: How do you suppose I find it and kill it?
[01:56] <BluesKaj> no kidding ...there' sno text in it
[01:56] <Ertain> My computer keeps freezing up, but I don't know why.
[01:56] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: back it up if you're going to edit it
[01:56] <Ertain> It could be due to some part of Firefox, but I'm not sure.
[01:56] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: it's blank?
[01:56] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:56] <Alethes> BluesKaj: I was able to fix that kdeinit prob
[01:56] <flipstar> BluesKaj: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:56] <Alethes> I don't know if you have the same prob
[01:57] <draik> Dr_willis_: Is there something I can run/do to find what should no longer be running?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> Alethes:  cool how ?
[01:57] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: try the above, and the check the backups in the same dir
[01:57] <icanhasadmin> "cp /source-location/file /copy-location/file" is the correct syntax right? And is it relative location or exact?
[01:57] <Alethes> BluesKaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695073
[01:57] <fortruth> hello, I want to know if i need reinstall non-free driver of nvidia when i change my linux-image!.
[01:57] <Alethes> last message on that page
[01:57] <BluesKaj> flipstar:  don't wann achange anysettings now
[01:57] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: yes, that should work.   cp -r for directories
[01:57] <Alethes> BluesKaj: sudo dpkg -r language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-en-base
[01:57] <Alethes> or
[01:57] <icanhasadmin> prince_jammys: you the man
[01:57] <Alethes> sudo qt-language-selector --mode select
[01:57] <Alethes> select us-english
[01:58] <Alethes> pretty lame bug
[01:58] <BluesKaj> Alethes:  language-pack-kde-en as well eh ?
[01:58] <flipstar> BluesKaj: theres no content but X is running? are you on hardy ?
[01:58] <Alethes> BluesKaj: yeah, that's all that needs to be removed
[01:58] <BluesKaj> no, gutsy
[01:58] <Alethes> gotta do the base package at the same time though
[01:58] <Alethes> 'cause they both depend on each other
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> !startup
[01:59] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[01:59] <BluesKaj> Alethes:I removed  language-pack-en-base
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> draik,  see the !startup info :)
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> Theres also a kde startup manager tool
[01:59] <Alethes> BluesKaj: yeah, that does nothing
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> !find startup
[01:59] <ubotu> Found: libstartup-notification0, libstartup-notification0-dev, startup-tasks, startupmanager
[02:00] <Alethes> it's the kde language packs
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> !info startupmanager
[02:00] <ubotu> startupmanager (source: startupmanager): Grub and Splash screen configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 53 kB, installed size 652 kB
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> hmm thats not it.
[02:00] <BluesKaj> really Alethes ok , thx I'll dump the kde lang base as well
[02:00] <Alethes> BluesKaj: check that message on the forum I posted
[02:01] <icanhasadmin> ok, supernub question. I have a directory with a space in it. How do I denote that while typing it in command line?
[02:01] <flipstar> ""
[02:02] <Alethes> icanhasadmin: you can quote it like flipstar said or you can just tab complete it
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,   quote the whole name/path or escape the space.
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> It can get TRICKY at times. :)
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> kk
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> cd 'Program Files'
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> i'll figure out on my own what tab complete means ;)
[02:02] <Alethes> if you start typing the name and hit tab, it'll complete it
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> gotcha
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> like usernames in irc
[02:02] <icanhasadmin> lol
[02:02] <Alethes> yep
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,   you may want to track down a bash beginners guide or 2 :) and do some readng
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> !tab
[02:02] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:02] <flipstar> or just use 'blah \ blah'
[02:03] <icanhasadmin> I find it amusing how all the 'tricks' all this software has I used to use on windows, actually seems to be built based on common linux commands
[02:03] <Alethes> BluesKaj: man, that bug just about had me running for a new distro
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  you mean windows/MS stealing ideas from other people? Egads! :)
[02:04] <icanhasadmin> lol
[02:04] <sub[t]rnl> hi
[02:05] <icanhasadmin> It's funny. When I was very young (12?) I coded rooms/weapons/armors/etc for a MUD in something called "LPC" which i can only presume is a bastardized version of C. I remember almost none of it but things seem to pop in my head everytime i read some piece of source
[02:05] <flipstar> hi
[02:05] <BluesKaj> Alethes:  I'm not out of the woods yet ..still tempted to lookelsewhere if this locale prob keeps persisting
[02:05] <Strangelet> I accidentally removed everything on my KDE panel, now, I am trying to move things back into place, but applets such as the 'system tray' and 'taskbar' cannot seem to be moved. How do I move them?
[02:05] <draik_> Dr_willis_: There is nothing in Autostart
[02:06] <flipstar> draik_: probably a restore from last session
[02:07] <flipstar> Strangelet: everything in kicker can be moved
[02:07] <Strangelet> flipstar: Understood, though I do not know how some things can be moved, i.e. taskbar
[02:07] <Alethes> BluesKaj: still not fixed?
[02:08] <tcm_> Strangelet: I've had same problem few weeks ago. I solved it by adding (how it should be on the panel) right to lef
[02:08] <Dr_willis_> draik,  theres a kde tool that helps ya manage the sessions also i think.
[02:09] <Strangelet> tcm_: ehh, I think the developers should know about this. :p
[02:09] <icanhasadmin> So I'm still up in there air between gnone and kde.. anyone want to win me over on KDE? I just need some convincing
[02:09] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: first unlock the panel, then you have to mouse over the stuff until you see a little arrow.  when you see it, grab it and move it,  it's pretty annoyinh
[02:09] <BluesKaj> i removed them , Alethes... now comes the test ..gonna reconfigure my nonexistent xorg file , cuz i gotta have DRI and 3D for google earth ..BBL
[02:10] <Strangelet> prince_jammys: Umm, where should I mouse over for the taskbar?
[02:10] <Dr_willis_> icanhasadmin,  use them both..  and see.
[02:11] <draik> flipstar: How do I find it?
[02:11] <Dr_willis_> I set up the wife with Gnome, I tend to use kde.
[02:11] <Alethes> icanhasadmin: I used gnome for years and I use kde now
[02:11] <draik> Dr_willis_: Do you know the app?
[02:11] <flipstar> no this aint good to use both..
[02:11] <Dr_willis_> draik,  use the package manager and search - i forget its name
[02:11] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: on the left edge
[02:11] <icanhasadmin> I am using them both :) very different. I just.. I don't know. Undecided :P
[02:11] <Strangelet> prince_jammys: Thanks! I will start mousing around now. :P
[02:11] <Dr_willis_> very different? Hmm.. never noticed.
[02:11] <Dr_willis_> Heh
[02:11] <flipstar> draik: if this happend the first time you can ignore it..if you dont use kdesu when exiting the current session it wont occure in the next one
[02:12] <Alethes> icanhasadmin: I can give you one good reason -- the developers are not as stubborn :D
[02:12] <Alethes> the attitude of the devs for kde is totally different than that of the gnome devs from my experience
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> one reason.. KDE4
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:12] <icanhasadmin> Alethes: see that's what i'm talking about! lol
[02:12] <Alethes> or at least 4.1 haha
[02:13] <Strangelet> prince_jammys: can't find it. :(
[02:13] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: it can be hard.  an alternative is to see if you can delete it and add it back
[02:13] <Alethes> gnome has a nice clean look, but the backend is pretty shoddy
[02:13] <Alethes> and kde can be made to look like gnome
[02:13] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: the panel is unlocked, right?
[02:13] <Strangelet> prince_jammys, yassir
[02:14] <icanhasadmin> Any hope for me getting compiz/beryl or something pretty like that to run on an ati xpress laptop card? i don't want a walk through, just a yes or no :)
[02:14] <Alethes> icanhasadmin: kde can do everything gnome can do and more.  gnome is quite a bit behind as far as features go.
[02:14] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: i just tried it.. the little vertical bar and the arrow popped up on the far left of the taskbar
[02:15] <draik> Dr_willis_: I don't use it for shutting down. How about I use it this time?
[02:16] <draik> Dr_willis_: kdesudo -u root halt                will that work?
[02:16] <icanhasadmin> Alethes: Yeah, I liked the whole "find a new desktop background" thing. Right in the menu, easy to find, seemed updated and had cool options
[02:16] <Strangelet> prince_jammys: No avail. :(
[02:16] <Dr_willis_> draik,  theres no need to use kdesu for non-gui apps
[02:16] <Dr_willis_> sudo halt
[02:17] <Dr_willis_> Or cheat like i do . and make it where the user can use the halt/shutdown command. no sudo needed
[02:17] <prince_jammys> Strangelet: weird. it's working over here.
[02:17] <flipstar> you dont need to cheat for that..just use kmenu :=)
[02:18] <Dr_willis_> i got  the suid bit set on halt. :)
[02:19] <Dr_willis_> at one time i had a user named 'halt' that had no password. and the default shell was halt.
[02:19] <Dr_willis_>  so 'halt' at  LOGIN: would halt the box. :)
[02:19] <flipstar> haha
[02:20] <Alethes> haha
[02:20] <Alethes> man, you know that'd be a weird hack if you could just automatically turn every failed login into a ln to a command
[02:20] <Alethes> so everything just worked haha
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> Alethes,  Hmm.. Proberly doable. :)
[02:21] <Alethes> yeah, but it's a horrible idea :D
[02:21] <icanhasadmin> that was all really funny.
[02:22] <Dr_willis_> Login Failed: please enter your Credit card # to continue
[02:22] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:22] <Alethes> haha
[02:22] <icanhasadmin> or an 11 digit prime number..
[02:22] <Alethes> :o
[02:22] <Alethes> you may be a windows user, but you're definitely a geek, icanhasadmin
[02:22] <Alethes> :)
[02:23] <icanhasadmin> I'd like to think so. I like text based rpgs and rubiks cubes :(
[02:23] <icanhasadmin> Totally not cool enough tho. But thank you :)
[02:23] <prince_jammys> 80s stuff, huh
[02:23] <Dr_willis_> Go play Wesnoth for a few hrs.
[02:24] <icanhasadmin> nethack ftw
[02:24] <prince_jammys> icanhasadmin: you should install ubuntu on your commodore 64/sinclair spectrum
[02:24] <Dr_willis_> i gave up on nethack after they removed the pick-ax cheats. :)
[02:24] <dennister> hey BluesKaj, did the launchpad line help? r u in ur drive's kde now?
[02:24]  * Dr_willis_ has a C64 and a Spectrum.
[02:24] <icanhasadmin> I love this place, really.
[02:24] <Xbehave> does anybody know much about amarok, in particular scripts?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> everything seems ok , except my scrn res...won't save my 1152x864 settings , reverts to widecscreen 1280x1024
[02:25] <icanhasadmin> 1152x864? what kind of monitor is that..
[02:26] <dennister> wonderful...some progress anyway, ur not in livecd anymore
[02:26] <Arwen> a 3:2 one? :-p
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> oh..
[02:26]  * icanhasadmin can't count
[02:26] <Arwen> [21:25] <BluesKaj> everything seems ok , except my scrn res...won't save my 1152x864 settings , reverts to widecscreen 1280x1024 <-- how is 1280x1024 widescreen?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> hi dennister , it seems good yeah ..so far anyway ...put adept notifier on ice for now tho...don't trust any more updates :P
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> yeah,.. 1280x800 is wide i though
[02:26] <icanhasadmin> *t
[02:26]  * Arwen doesn't trust updates. It's Hardy after all.
[02:26] <Alethes> BluesKaj: yeah, might as well just wait for hardy now
[02:26]  * icanhasadmin pretends to be helpful
[02:26] <BluesKaj> Arwen:  it is for me
[02:26] <draik> Dr_willis_: Got it fixed. Made it start an empty session. Now I'm starting what I want and that will be my new session
[02:26] <dennister> lol...know what you mean...well i'm gonna take off, night folks
[02:27] <BluesKaj> nite dennister
[02:28] <BluesKaj> not on Hardy , gutsy here
[02:28] <Xbehave> does anybody know much about amarok, or ~/.kde ? ive got noexec on my /home but i want to install amarok scripts to
[02:29] <BluesKaj> Arwen: ok it isn't wide screen but it's meant for larger scrn than this ol' 17" Mitsubishi Diamond plus 73
[02:29] <prince_jammys> Xbehave: you mean you can't execute scripts in your home dir?
[02:30] <Arwen> anyway reboot time... now if only kernels could be swapped on-the-fly
[02:30]  * BluesKaj examines newly generated xorg.config file
[02:31] <Xbehave> yeah, well i think i cant execute anything(including scripts) and i get an error when trying to install them from amarok
[02:31] <flipstar> i'll leave now..
[02:31] <flipstar> cya
[02:32] <BluesKaj> strange , the xorg.config file is still empty
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> shouldn't it be xorg.conf? >_>
[02:35] <prince_jammys> yes
[02:36] <Arwen> anyone here understand the inner workings of fglrx? the latest versions are supposed to be way faster, but they're dog slow on my system
[02:37] <prince_jammys> not i
[02:38] <BluesKaj> the latest versions don't run well on onboard ati
[02:38] <yurimxpxman> how can I add music to my 6th generation iPod? I haven't had any luck.
[02:39] <Authority> when booting, two devices get created for my one network card, wifi0 and wlan0.  Only wlan0 (hostap driver) is actually used and wifi0 just has a bunch of errors in dmesg.  how can I figure out what is creating wifi0 and stop it?
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Arwen:  i have an ati x200G onboard and the restricted driver works well . even tvtime
[02:40] <Authority> =
[02:40] <Arwen> BluesKaj, odd, because on 8.2, MPlayer with GL output is at least 2-3 times slower.
[02:41] <Arwen> and it has funky tearing
[02:42] <BluesKaj> Arwen:  I'm on 8.37 , which is actually older i think
[02:42] <eddy> someone speak spanish
[02:42] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:42] <prince_jammys> !es | eddy
[02:42] <ubotu> eddy: please see above
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> eddy: i do but ask there.
[02:42] <Arwen> BluesKaj, it is. That one worked ok.
[02:42] <Arwen> I'm on Hardy Heron though and apparently this is the only one supporting the .24 kernel
[02:43] <eddy> thanks a lot
[02:43] <beautifulsnow> how do you get hardy heron? O_o
[02:43] <LjL> !hardy > beautifulsnow    (beautifulsnow, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:45] <Arwen> someone ought to fix that though.... the r300 driver is faster...
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Arwen: it is an F/OSS project...you could fix it
[02:46] <Arwen> fglrx? it is NOT open
[02:46] <Arwen> and that's what I'm complaining about
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i seemed to not read well...
[02:49] <[Archon]> how can i get the url, username workgroup (etc) settings from smb://some.com/path so i can put it in the CLI (and fstab)?
[02:52] <Stoffer> fsck is asking me to choose a different superblock to check my hard drive.... can someone help me choose the right one?
[02:53] <Stoffer> nm
[02:54] <Ahmuck> hi.  something happened to my battery meter.  battery meter does not seem to be showing correctly.  it dropped and rises sudenly
[02:54] <BanTam> what a pain in the butt, all that work for nothing
[02:55] <BanTam> so i guess i will ask
[02:55] <BanTam> does anyone else know about MergedFB?
[02:59] <Ahmuck> so i've been at 0.0% now for 10 min on the laptop battery bar
[03:05] <dogma_> !fr
[03:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:05] <pat_> Hi all, I am receiving a ton of these msg's: "bcm43xx: MAC suspend failed" I can access a term, but I can't start the gui, it fails at "initializing services". I just want to be able to get to the gui as I have an idea how to fix this if I can, any suggestions?
[03:06] <tekteen> pat_: bcm43xx is the wifi driver
[03:06] <tekteen> they are unrelated
[03:06] <tekteen> pat_: as for X failing to start ...
[03:06] <tekteen> !X
[03:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:06] <pat_> tekteen: I understand that, and I believe I caused this because I was trying to get my wifi working. Now my new prob is that I cannot boot into the gui sinced I caused this problem
[03:07] <tekteen> oh
[03:07] <tekteen> pat_: has the gui ever worked
[03:07] <tekteen> ?
[03:07] <pat_> yes
[03:07] <pat_> this is a new install on a new laptop, so it was working until I tried to switch from wired internet to wifi
[03:08] <tekteen> pat_: what have you done lately? installed restricted drivers?
[03:08] <tekteen> for the video I mean
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> pat_» can you get to the login screen?
[03:09] <pat_> last think i did was using knetworkmanager, I attempted to disconnect wired, switch to wireless, then when I restarted, it won't let me get past "initializing services", if I switch to a tty, I get constant msg's that I mentioned above, even while logged in
[03:09] <pat_> nosrednaekim: yes
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> pat_» its an unrelated problem... do you live in canada?
[03:10] <pat_> yes
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> bingo :)
[03:10] <pat_> huh? lol
[03:10] <pat_> kubuntu doesn't like people from Canada? :P
[03:11] <tekteen> pat_: try to type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> tekteen» no no!
[03:11] <tekteen> ok
[03:11] <tekteen> sorry
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> tekteen» have you heard of the lang-pack problem yet?
[03:11] <tekteen> nope
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-en/+bug/195647
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> not that canada's a bad place, there's a problem with the updated language pack for en-CA
[03:12] <pat_> nosrednaekim: I'm aware of that problem and did fix it (or so I think), can it pop up again?
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> pat_» seems its hitting again.... did you remove those two packages?
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> pat_» it may happen every time you update, i'm not sure
[03:12] <pat_> if it's the same thing I'm thinking of, it caused all my k menu options to have some weird strings before the item, i have resolved that
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> no..its different
[03:13] <pat_> I'll check the link, brb
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> pat_» the command to remove it is "sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base"
[03:16] <draik> Is there an app that helps in learning another language? Particularly Japanese
[03:16] <pat_> nosrednaekim: yep, that did it! Wow, so I had 2 diff probs at the same time. Now, anything I can do about the lang packs?
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> yup, uninstall the,
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> "them
[03:17] <pat_> Can i just select us-en and that will work?
[03:17] <pat_> they are now uninstalled
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> actually... this might work better "sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-en=1:7.10+20071120 language-pack-kde-en-base=1:7.10+20071012"
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> that will install the old version
[03:17] <pat_> k, i'll give that a try, brb
[03:23] <pat_> ok, that worked. I was able to log out and relogin. Adept manager is suggesting I update to the new lang pack, I guess I don't want to do that then right?
[03:23] <AgentZ86> if you have Ubuntu installed, and want to install Kubuntu to a different partition with also it's own swap partition will Ubuntu get messed up ??
[03:24] <BanTam> adept manager always give me erros halfway through an upgrade
[03:24] <BanTam> errors
[03:24] <BanTam> EVERY time
[03:24] <BanTam> i shouldve known better and used the terminal
[03:24] <pat_> I'll seach that on google and see what more I can do about that. Thanks for your help nosrednaekim!
[03:25] <pat_> That temp solved my logging into the gui problem, now to solve my stupid broadcom prob. Other than these 2 issues, I'm very happy with gutsy :)
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> pat_» lol
[03:27]  * BluesKaj vows to keep adept notifier hidden 'til this mess is cleaned up
[03:27] <noodles12> AgentZ86: why do you want to do that? You can install kubuntu-desktop and just change the session when you login
[03:28] <noodles12> AgentZ86: kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome.
[03:30] <jumpkick> my kubuntu desktop went blank (no desktop icons, but taskbar still), so I restarted X, now when I try to login to the desktop again from KDM, I get to "initializing system services", then X crashes and I'm back to KDM
[03:30] <jumpkick> is there some way I can troubleshoot this?
[03:31] <mrunagi> kubuntu doesnt correct my spelling anymore
[03:31] <AgentZ86> noodles12: well, I'm not sure really I want to run the java app from www.fxcm.com and it's actually working, but when I open a position in my trade I can't set stops/limits, and someone told me they are using Kubuntu and they don't have a problem, so I wanted to test for myself. I don't know why it would be different, or why I can't use all the features of this trading platform, but I figured I would try it
[03:31] <mrunagi> how can i turn that back on
[03:31] <noodles12> jumpkick: i'd check in /var/log/syslog & /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:32] <jumpkick> noodles12: thanks I'll tail both those and see what happens
[03:32] <pat_> jumpkick: I just had that prob and nosrednaekim solved it for me: uninstall lang packs doing this from a term: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base
[03:33] <noodles12> AgentZ86: if it works fine in kubuntu just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu"     then log out. and change the session to kde and log back in. u should then be in "kubuntu" and try your ap
[03:33] <AgentZ86> noodles12: basically I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy and all works very well, however this java start app I thought worked, but after further review I noticed I could not set my stop/limit orders, the button just does not work. But the close position button does work.
[03:34] <jumpkick> pat_: I noticed those lang packs were updated and xine was uninstalled when I first logged in today
[03:34] <jumpkick> I'll give that a shot
[03:34] <AgentZ86> noodles12: thanks, but why would kubuntu be any different for this java app ?
[03:34] <pat_> same thing for me, that's when my probs started
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jumpkick» yup... you canucks are getting hit hard this week:)
[03:34] <AgentZ86> I'll try it anyhow I have to see
[03:34] <noodles12> AgentZ86: I honestly have no idea on that issue. just trying ot save you from installing kubuntu on dif. partition. My guess is maybe something with the kdelibs or different default preferences in kubuntu
[03:34] <pat_> I had my lang pack set to en-ca (canada), I reinstalled them, set everything to en-us and it all appears to work fine now
[03:35] <AgentZ86> and sudo apt-get install kubuntu, won't harm my current Ubuntu installation ?
[03:35] <pat_> nosrednaekim: thanks again, this was my last stop before reinstalling. You saved me a couple of hours for sure :)
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> pat_» you are welcome....alot of people have been reinstalling.. and THEN coming here
[03:36] <AgentZ86> noodles12: and sudo apt-get install kubuntu, won't harm my current Ubuntu installation ?
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» nope... and its "kubuntu-desktop"
[03:36] <noodles12> AgentZ86: kubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <noodles12> nvm he  beat me
[03:36] <AgentZ86> oh, ok thanks,
[03:36] <noodles12> AgentZ86: and no it won't.
[03:36] <AgentZ86> can I use the applications/add remove menu for that also ?
[03:37] <jumpkick> nosrednaekim - yeah I'm a Canadian... :D ...  removing language-pack-kde-en has resolved it
[03:37] <pat_> nosrednaekim: if anyone asks in the future, I've tested several ways now, it appears that if I select en-us and then upgrade, I'm not having those probs anymore. Since there isn't any difference between canada and the usa really, it's no big deal till they get this fixed
[03:37] <AgentZ86> or synaptic ? or just apt-get is the best ?
[03:37] <jumpkick> thanks everybody
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> pat_» yeah... thats probably best... or just switch to a US mirror
[03:37] <noodles12> AgentZ86: i think all the above. though kubuntu uses adept_manager instead of synaptic. you might already have it since you had ubuntu installed first.
[03:37] <jumpkick> pat_: we spell colour with a u
[03:37] <jumpkick> :P
[03:38] <pat_> jumpkick: and flavour, and aboot :P
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> jumpkick» well its about time you learned the correct spelling :)
[03:39] <jumpkick> nosrednaekim: you better tell the Brits from whom we both got our language before you guys started mispelling everything... lol
[03:39] <shaffy> okay, help is needed.  today, after i installed the latest kubuntu updates, KDE login would no longer work -- an x-restart would happen at "loading desktop."  i reinstalled kubuntu just now, did an update from the repositories and i've gotten the same problem... is there something going on with the latest upgrades?
[03:40] <jumpkick> or should I say correcting everything
[03:40] <pat_> shaffy: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en language-pack-kde-base
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» you are canadian....see aren't I smart?
[03:40] <shaffy> nosrednaekim: yes, why???
[03:40] <jumpkick> we are being desimated by the package updater...  hahaha
[03:40] <shaffy> pat_: so there is a problem?
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» kubuntu declared war of canucks yesterday
[03:41] <pat_> shaffy: yes, kubuntu doesn't like us canadians anymore :)
[03:41] <shaffy> haha
[03:41] <noodles12> didn't know there were so many canadians in here =P
[03:41] <pat_> nosrednaekim: lol
[03:41] <shaffy> lol
[03:41] <shaffy> what's going on though?
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> the lang-pack is screwed up
[03:41] <shaffy> but why just the canucks?
[03:41] <jumpkick> the lang-pack update nuked us
[03:41] <noodles12> kubuntu officially stopped supporting canadians
[03:42] <shaffy> lol
[03:42] <shaffy> yeah
[03:42] <jumpkick> bitterness over the dollar going to $1.01 is my bet
[03:42] <pat_> shaffy: after you do that, reinstall it, switch everything to en-us, upgrade, and no more problems (other than the fact you have to suffer americans dreadful spelling errors, lol)
[03:43] <shaffy> pat_: they will fix it eventually, though?
[03:43] <jumpkick> that and those US McDonald's dollar menu ads
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» probably.
[03:43] <pat_> shaffy: I'm sure they will, nobody wants to suffer canadians fury :P
[03:43] <shaffy> lol yeah
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» its confirmed and they are working on it... BTW..... if you look at the error, its something about plurals or something ;)
[03:43] <jumpkick> shaffy: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-en
[03:43] <jumpkick> fixed it for me
[03:44] <jumpkick> if you can get to a shell to do it
[03:44] <shaffy> okay.. so language-pack-kde-base does not need to be removed then?
[03:44] <jumpkick> didn't exist on my system
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» it may..not sure.
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» try without
[03:44] <AgentZ86> installing kubuntu-desktop now via synaptic, and all dependencies which synaptic automatically selected fingers crossed
[03:44] <shaffy> okay, thanks everyone.  much appreciated.. i knew something was up.
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» BTW... are you canadian?
[03:45] <AgentZ86> no
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» awesome... you shouldn't have any problems then
[03:45] <noodles12> lol
[03:45] <AgentZ86> thanks
[03:45] <mot> how do i reconfigure xorg.conf?
[03:45] <shaffy> okay, later everyone.  thx.  i'll be back in a few mins.  peace.
[03:46] <jumpkick> lol
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> mot» "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" what is your problem?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> language-pack-kde-base must be removed as well
[03:47] <BluesKaj> we canadians gotta stick together ... someone owes us an apology for this mess :)
[03:47] <jumpkick> we need a metapackage... so we can "sudo apt-get install help-canadians"
[03:48] <AgentZ86> crap it's asking for my default display manager ?  How do I move them?
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> jumpkick» but he is using ubuntu...
[03:49] <AgentZ86> I already have ubuntu installed so I want the kdm darn
[03:49] <jumpkick> it actually doesn't matter
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» it doesn't matter
[03:49] <jumpkick> they both will work fine
[03:49] <AgentZ86> where can I change it after the install finishes
[03:49] <AgentZ86> ?
[03:49] <jumpkick> ^^ - what he said
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[03:50] <noodles12> AgentZ86: just log out. change session to kde. and log back in
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> noodles12» I think he means the display manager
[03:50] <noodles12> oh.. my bad
[03:50] <mrnotproper> :q
[03:50] <mrnotproper> ohh sorry..
[03:51] <shaffy> okay, i'm back.  so where do i change the language setting so i can do an update without my comp crashing?
[03:51] <noodles12> shouldn't he keep it as gdm? since he is just trying kubuntu . he already has ubuntu installed?
[03:51] <AgentZ86> yep when synaptic got to a point it asked which display manager I wanted kdm or gdm for default
[03:51] <shaffy> change it to american english i'm guessing?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» ya.... REAL english ;)
[03:51] <shaffy> hehe
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> shaffy» british english might actually be closer though
[03:52] <jumpkick> non-english english
[03:52] <jcgkffycs> I there a global shortcut key combination toswitch desktops?
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> jcgkffycs» no, you can set one though
[03:52] <jcgkffycs> how? I have looked through all the config dialogues.
[03:52] <Peng> Ok. I'd like to install Kubuntu on a system with two hard drives in RAID 1, with partitions with some data on them. Can I reuse the partitions without losing data?
[03:53] <AgentZ86> so I wanted kdm ?? display manager right ?
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> AgentZ86» doesn't matter.
[03:53] <AgentZ86> once install completes I can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?
[03:53] <noodles12> AgentZ86: i don't think it
[03:53] <AgentZ86> doesn't matter, ok
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> Peng» yes, I think you can
[03:54] <BluesKaj> brit english and canadian english have the *our spellings in common
[03:54] <jumpkick> my bet is it would be an update-alternatives
[03:54] <AgentZ86> I was just thinking to stay with the most pure kde as I can in my test of this java app. I want to see the difference between how it works with Ubuntu vs Kubuntu
[03:54] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: testing a java app doesn't matter
[03:54] <jumpkick> (I'm a java programmer @ work)
[03:55] <Peng> nosrednaekim: One thing is, the installer seems to be aware of the disk (/dev/sd*) devices, not the RAID devices..
[03:55] <jumpkick> long as they both launch the KDE desktop the are the same
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> Peng» yes, I think you have to use the alternate installer to correctly set up the RAID
[03:55] <AgentZ86> Jumpkick thats what I thought, but I'm missing a feature of an app. on my Ubuntu where someone else is using Kubuntu and has no problem,  and I dont' know why so I figured I would try the Kubuntu also to see if there was any difference on my end
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> !raid
[03:55] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[03:55] <jumpkick> both gdm and kdm esseentially hand-off X to kwin, etc
[03:56] <Peng> nosrednaekim: The alternate installer? As in when booting, not "Start and install Kubuntu"?
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> Peng» another whole CD
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> !alternate
[03:56] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[03:56] <adred> hello, why is it that theres no compiz icon after i installed it. i followed the instructions in help.kubuntu but its not working
[03:56] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: dependancies are a bit different for gnome desktop (gtk based) vs. kde desktop (qt-based)
[03:57] <Peng> nosrednaekim: I have the DVD, so it should have it. One boot entry is "alternate installer" or something.
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> adred» there IS no compiz icon.
[03:57] <Peng> nosrednaekim: Is the alternate installer a CLI?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> Peng» ah... yeah thats probably it
[03:57] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: you might consider that you will still have the gnome dependancies if you are installing kde in addtion to gnome
[03:58] <adred> ok, but i tried to run through run command by typing ccsm, it didn't load up
[03:58] <jumpkick> for a true test you probably want to do a clean install of kubuntu (no gnome libs) inside a VM
[03:58] <AgentZ86> thats something I did consider that is why I was considering to install on a separate partition to try my test, but I really don't understand why a java app would work on Kubuntu and not on Ubuntu
[03:58] <Peng> Right, it's a CLI...
[03:58] <noodles12> jumpkick: or he could install kubuntu-desktop. then go into kubuntu and remove ubuntu-destkop ?
[03:59] <adred> so how do i access compiz then?
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> adred» use "compiz --replace"
[03:59] <AgentZ86> I don't want to mess up my Ubuntu though I use this thing for work everyday
[03:59] <adred> i did it already..
[03:59] <noodles12> AgentZ86: i missed a bit of the chat. are you in kubuntu and tried the app?
[03:59] <jumpkick> noodles12: he could but he doesn't want to mess up his gnome desktop
[03:59] <AgentZ86> no I'm in Ubuntu
[04:00] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: install vmware-server, put a kubuntu image in a vm and test
[04:00] <AgentZ86> Ubuntu, the app works, but there is like one right click feature with a menu that has one menu item disabled
[04:00] <jumpkick> delete VM when done
[04:00] <jumpkick> oh
[04:00] <AgentZ86> I right click and I should be able to select stop/limit or close, and only the close button works in the trading platform
[04:01] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: eclipse-trader or something?
[04:01] <AgentZ86> Someone told me they use Kubuntu and the app works perfect, and the right click menu items work well, so I figured I try something with Kubuntu to see for myself
[04:02] <jumpkick> sounds fishy
[04:02] <AgentZ86> it's www.fxcm.com it's their java platform
[04:02] <jumpkick> maybe you don't have permission or maybe the channel doesn't support it
[04:02] <jumpkick> or maybe time of day prevents it
[04:02] <BluesKaj> ok gents , after removing those language packs , evertime i run an install I get this :perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:LANGUAGE = (unset),:LC_ALL = (unset),LANG = "en_CA.UTF-8". perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")....I't's prolly just unimportant but zi'd still like to get rid of the warnings . ...any suggestions ?
[04:02] <adred> the instructions say, KMenu->Settings-> CompizConfig...but i couldn't' find "CompizConfig icon nor link in the KMenu...:(
[04:03] <AgentZ86> but it says for apple users standalone platform or something, but it seems to all work but that feature,
[04:03] <jumpkick> BluesKaj: ignore it
[04:03] <AgentZ86> I'm guessing i have to restart to open kubuntu desktop huh ?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» install a us lang pack
[04:04] <prince_jammys> adred: try typing in terminal:::   ccsm
[04:04] <AgentZ86> be back after test
[04:04] <jumpkick> AgentZ86: log out / login or xnest
[04:04] <AgentZ86> thanks
[04:04] <BluesKaj> the US lang pack didn't work the previous install , nosrednaekim
[04:04] <jumpkick> xnest is how I tested kde4
[04:04] <adred> it says ccsm is not currently installed
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj»^_^
[04:05] <BluesKaj> it was broken too
[04:05] <Strangelet> I accidentally removed everything on my KDE panel, now, I am trying to move things back into place, but applets such as the 'system tray' and 'taskbar' cannot seem to be moved. How do I move them?
[04:05] <adred> ive just installed it
[04:05] <prince_jammys> adred: try::   compiz --replace
[04:05] <noodles12> Strangelet: there should mea  small arrow towards buttom left of the applet. right click there to move
[04:06] <adred> i got this: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[04:06] <adred> No whitelisted driver found
[04:06] <adred> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[04:06] <adred> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> bye guys.... good luck to you canadians....
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> adred» you have an ATI?
[04:06] <adred> yes
[04:06] <BluesKaj> well, bedtime for old guys ...this kubuntu sha-mozz has worn me out :)
[04:06] <Strangelet> noodles12: I do not see any such arrows :(
[04:06] <BluesKaj> nite all
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> adred» which driver are you using
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> night BluesKaj
[04:06] <noodles12> Strangelet: it shows up when u put your mouse over it
[04:07] <Strangelet> noodles12: not showing up
[04:08] <adred> i couldn't remember which one,.
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> adred» did you install it with the restricted-manager?
[04:09] <adred> i installed through console
[04:09] <adred> i installed it through console
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> adred» you downloaded it off the ATI website?
[04:10] <oloughlin75> I bet he apt-get'ed it
[04:11] <adred> no, i just stumbled on certain forum thread discussing about How To install ati drivers. i just followed whats written there
[04:11] <noodles12> AgentZ86: u in kubuntu now? how'd it go?
[04:11] <AgentZ86> hmm, It said on reboot I was using Kubuntu but I saw no selection for Gnome or KDE it just went to Kbuntu automatically ?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> adred» ohhhh
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> bye guys
[04:11] <adred> something has gone wrong?
[04:11] <noodles12> AgentZ86: you change the session at the login screen to change between the two
[04:12] <AgentZ86> I can't tell anything really different desktop appears the same, still looks like Gnome
[04:12] <AgentZ86> I didn't see a selection to change anything I'll try again
[04:12] <adred> should i redo it? maybe you a better idea on how to install it
[04:12] <adred> have
[04:16] <adred> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx --> that's the one i used to install the ati driver
[04:35] <Konner> Hello
[04:35] <Strangelet> How do I move my taskbar about? I cannot find any 'arrows' or anything of the sort when I hover my mouse around it.
[04:35] <BanTam> did you try just dragging it with your mouse?
[04:35] <noodles12> Strangelet: the actual task bar you just click on and drag
[04:35] <Konner> I need help setting up my Linksys WMP54GS Wireless card on Kubuntu.
[04:36] <Konner> Im on Windows XP right now looking for help
[04:36] <BanTam> you got to use ndiswrapper Konner
[04:36] <BanTam> with windows drivers
[04:36] <Konner> I have NO clue how to get NDISwrapper
[04:36] <BanTam> its easy
[04:36] <Konner> and how to use it
[04:36] <Strangelet> hehe, hallo again noodles12, yah, that moves the KDE menu bar, but that is all
[04:36] <Konner> Can you help me then?
[04:37] <BanTam> gimme a sec to find the info for you
[04:37] <BanTam> sure
[04:37] <Konner> ok
[04:37] <Konner> =]
[04:38] <tophat> wtf mate
[04:39] <BanTam> konner 1st you got to get ndiswrapper
[04:39] <Konner> How do i install ndiswrapper
[04:39] <Konner> i have it downloaded
[04:39] <Konner> \and extracted on my desktop
[04:39] <BanTam> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper
[04:39] <BanTam> you need 2 files
[04:39] <Konner> Which ones/
[04:39] <BanTam> Ndiswrapper-common & ndiswrapper-utils
[04:40] <Konner> ohh
[04:40] <Konner> i have those
[04:40] <Konner> installed
[04:40] <Konner> already
[04:40] <BanTam> you sure?
[04:40] <Konner> yeah
[04:40] <BanTam> ok
[04:40] <Konner> i downlaoded thewm
[04:40] <BanTam> you got your windows wifi drivers?
[04:40] <Konner> yes
[04:40] <BanTam> put them in your home folder
[04:40] <Konner> And i accedently changed it to manual configureation
[04:41] <BanTam> did you have your wifi working at all?
[04:41] <Konner> no
[04:41] <BanTam> what did you change to manual?
[04:41] <Konner> the wireless
[04:41] <Konner> i changed it on accedent
[04:41] <BanTam> shouldnt be a problem
[04:41] <BanTam> ok now go into a terminal
[04:41] <Konner> im on windows.
[04:41] <BanTam> oh
[04:41] <BanTam> ok well
[04:41] <Konner> internet not working on linux.
[04:42] <BanTam> np
[04:42] <r240> can anyone help a total kubuntu newb? too many problems/questions to solve :/
[04:42] <BanTam> in terminal you need to type
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !ask | r240
[04:42] <ubotu> r240: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:43] <BanTam> ndiswrapper -i  <nameof driver.inf>
[04:43] <Konner> do i need the <>
[04:43] <r240> let me take a deep breath
[04:43] <BanTam> CORRECTION
[04:43] <BanTam> you need to type
[04:43] <BanTam> sudo ndiswrapper -i  <nameof driver.inf>
[04:44] <BanTam> then
[04:44] <BanTam> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:44] <BanTam> then sudo ndiswrapper -m
[04:44] <BanTam> that should be it
[04:44] <Konner> do i need the <> on it?
[04:45] <BanTam> no
[04:45] <Konner> ok
[04:45] <Konner> ill brb if i have any problem ill come back
[04:45] <BanTam> then you right click on the network manager and you SHOULD see wireless networks available to you
[04:45] <Konner> ok
[04:45] <Konner> But its on manual
[04:45] <Konner> i dont see the wireless
[04:45] <Konner> theres no wireless tab
[04:45] <Konner> or whatever
[04:45] <BanTam> knetwork manager?
[04:46] <Konner> theres that
[04:46] <BanTam> thats it
[04:46] <Konner> but when i right click it
[04:46] <Konner> it doesnt say
[04:46] <Konner> Wireless Networks
[04:46] <Konner> it says wired
[04:46] <BanTam> it wonr say anything until there is a wireless network
[04:46] <Konner> Ok
[04:46] <Konner> ill brb
[04:46] <BanTam> k
[04:48] <r240> 1) i have no sound. a quick look shows that soundblaster is detected, it just seems like the driver/module is not loaded for some reason. 2) i have no video either. it seems i have to install extra (forget what it's called now, restricted extra maybe?) package for codecs which apparently includes java which i am not sure if i want. I would probably want support for rm, mpg and the like as well. I have installed flash nonfree so in
[04:48] <r240> ternet streaming is fine. 3) i have firefox 2 but for some reason, every time i download something, the download manager will only allow me to save to root,home or desktop, none of my other two partitions are listed. 4) i need support to play mp3 as well
[04:49] <mkquist> r240: if u have no video and audio r u booting to shell?
[04:49] <r240> i am not even sure what that means -_-
[04:49] <r240> <--- total newb :/
[04:50] <mkquist> well, u said u have no sound and u have no video...
[04:50] <r240> i can't play video and i have no sound
[04:50] <mkquist> r240: ahh.. ic now.. diff, yes youll need restricted see !medibuntu for that
[04:50] <mkquist> !medibuntu
[04:50] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:50] <r240> i have onboard sound as mobo beeps when i over-backspace in xchat
[04:51] <r240> i can grab restricted from adept yest?
[04:51] <AgentZ86> java app no different, in kde, I wonder why that one person can use it in Kubuntu, it's probably nothing to do with it, and more likely something to do with my java install or something
[04:51] <mkquist> r240: for sound i find this post useful - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:51] <mkquist> r240: yes, that side will tell you how
[04:51] <AgentZ86> well, thanks for the help all, chat at ya tomorrow
[04:52] <mkquist> r240: the medibuntu one that is
[04:52] <r240> so you know, i have read several pages on my sound problem already and i have only a headache to show. then again, i am a total newb @_@
[04:53] <r240> the cmds for console is killing me -_-
[04:53] <r240> anyways, let me read that link real quick. thank you
[04:53] <regeya> heh
[04:53] <mkquist> r240: that page is really step by step
[04:53] <r240> ah
[04:53] <r240> i DID read that page
[04:53] <r240> i got to step 3
[04:53] <r240> i have no idea how to find my driver from that link
[04:53]  * regeya realizes that growing up in the AppleDOS and MS-DOS days was good for him
[04:54] <Konner> I had a problem
[04:54] <BanTam> ?
[04:54]  * r240 just switched from windows four days ago
[04:54] <regeya> no longer?
[04:54] <noodles12> AgentZ86: you're back. i'm guesssing it didn't work
[04:54] <Konner> I forgot to include the .sys file so it didnt complete the installation
[04:54] <r240> anyone help with step 3 please?
[04:54] <Konner> now it says its already installed
[04:54] <regeya> r240: hang in there, you'll get it; sounds like you're determined so that's good
[04:54] <BanTam> lol
[04:55] <shaffy> does anyone know how to set Krusader as the default file manager?
[04:55] <BanTam> ok lemme think
[04:56] <Konner> :S
[04:56] <regeya> heh, every new computer I've had since '98, I've had to fight with sound problems on (except the ones where I say 'to heck with this, my old sound card worked!' and throw that'un in)
[04:56] <BanTam> goto /etc/ndiswrapper and delete the folder that has your drivers name on it
[04:56] <Konner> It says access denied i tried that
[04:56] <BanTam> and make sure all the files for your driver are available before you do it again
[04:57] <r240> the thing is my sound worked under v6 immediately after install
[04:57] <Konner> i put all the files in.
[04:57] <r240> 7.1 not so lucky :/
[04:57] <BanTam> you did sudo rm /etc/ndiswrapper/drivername?
[04:57] <r240> anyways, anyone can explain step 3 please?
[04:57] <BanTam> you gotta do it as root
[04:57] <Konner> oh.
[04:57] <BanTam> :)
[04:58] <regeya> well, r240 you can probably find your sound card under kinfocenter (under K menu -> system)  it'll likely be listed under pci
[04:58] <noodles12> r240: if i'm not mistaken. step 3 is jus tto go that site and look for chipset manufacturer of your card?
[04:58] <regeya> that's essentially equiv. to running 'lspci' from the command line
[04:58] <r240> i know it's silly but i have no idea how to look for my chipset
[04:58] <noodles12> r240: or someting close to what you got from typing "lspci -v" in the konsole
[04:59] <r240> i can find my sound card but step 3 suggests i need to know the driver name?
[04:59] <r240> which i can't find
[04:59] <regeya> r240: and if you don't find it in kinfocenter or via lspci, if you still have windows installed, you can likely find it under the control panel
[05:00] <r240> apparently i have type 10 alsa emulation for my driver?
[05:00] <regeya> r240: lspci or kinfocenter will give you a list of the hardware on the pci bus.  unless you're using usb audio or something, that's where your sound card is likely to be, on the pci bus.  if you look for 'sound' or 'audio' or something similar, you can usually get a clue as to what chipset you have
[05:00] <r240> that's the thing, what is chipset?
[05:00] <r240> i have a soundblaster live 5.1
[05:01] <r240> under kinfocenter, it lists a lot of info that i don't understand -_-
[05:01] <regeya> ok...hey, I think that's what I have.
[05:01] <r240> well then! show me what you know!
[05:01] <regeya> 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) <- yep
[05:01] <regeya> so that's...
[05:01] <r240> where are you reading that?
[05:02] <regeya> emu10k1
[05:02] <regeya> r240: lspci
[05:02] <regeya> from the konsole
[05:02] <r240> ah, i am in kinfocenter
[05:02] <r240> let me get to konsole
[05:02] <regeya> in my case, my chipset is emu10k1
[05:02] <regeya> it's also listed in kinfocenter
[05:02] <regeya> the pci tab is just the output of lspci, I think
[05:03] <r240> where mine say emul10kl, it's listed under synth devices
[05:03] <regeya> anyways, I wonder what your chipset is; my card was just supported pretty much out of the box
[05:03] <Konner> I couldnt remove it
[05:03] <Konner> it says its a directory
[05:03] <r240> ugh. it did for 6 but not for 7.1
[05:03] <BanTam> ok try this
[05:04] <BanTam> sudo ndiswrapper -e <drivername.inf>
[05:04] <Konner> I removed the .inf
[05:04] <Konner> but i cant reemove the directory
[05:04] <Konner> so it cant install
[05:04] <r240> so my chipset is emu10kl?
[05:04] <BanTam> try that command
[05:04] <Konner> k
[05:06] <r240> it says module emu10kl is not found
[05:06] <r240> but that's what's showing under lspci
[05:07] <crimsun_> snd-emu10k1
[05:08] <crimsun_> emu10k1 is the OSS/Free's name.
[05:09] <r240> i typed sudo modprobe snd-emu10kl per step 4
[05:09] <r240> it gave me fatal: module not found
[05:16] <crimsun_> r240: it's not an 'el'
[05:16] <crimsun_> r240: it's a 'one'
[05:17] <Konner> Ahh
[05:17] <Konner> I got the drivers and stuff installed
[05:17] <BanTam> ok
[05:17] <Konner> but the manual configuration doesnt work
[05:17] <Konner> i have it on that
[05:17] <r240> eee emmmmm uuuuuuuuu one zero kay ellll   right?
[05:17] <Konner> i cant choose my network
[05:17] <Konner> :(
[05:17] <BanTam> what happens when you right click on the network manager?
[05:17] <Konner> It says wired
[05:17] <Konner> and below for wireless it says manual
[05:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> one zero kay one
[05:18] <r240> oh
[05:18] <crimsun_> r240: you seem to have missed my memo.  not l as in 'el' but 1 as in 'one'.
[05:18] <BanTam> hmm
[05:18] <Konner> i need to turn off manual configureation
[05:18] <BanTam> did you try reboting after you install the drivers?
[05:18] <Konner> It worldnt work
[05:18] <Konner> because of manual configureation
[05:19] <Konner> i need to turn that off
[05:19] <hvgotcodes> i just installed kde4 on regular ubuntu -- effects like shadows/translucency don't work -- is this a known issue or did i bork something up?
[05:19] <r240> hmm
[05:19] <r240> what should i expect or do i move on to step 5?
[05:19] <r240> let me try
[05:19] <BanTam> you need to right clikc then go into options
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> hvgotcodes: the guys in #kubuntu-kde4 might have better luck helping you figure that out
[05:20] <hvgotcodes> thankyou
[05:20] <BanTam> and check off start knetmanager automatcially at startup
[05:20] <Konner> What else after that
[05:20] <Konner> ok
[05:20] <Konner> after that?
[05:20] <BanTam> that should do it
[05:20] <Konner> ok
[05:20] <Konner> brb
[05:20] <BanTam> k
[05:21] <r240> um
[05:22] <r240> what do i do after i type: sudo nano /etc/modules snd-emu10k1 ?
[05:22] <r240> it's giving me a weird menu thingy
[05:23] <r240> ooops
[05:24] <r240> i add snd-emu10k1 beneath fuse and lp?
[05:24] <regeya> whoops, r240, was gone; wife is doing thesis, I made the mistake of setting up a postgres8.2 db with oobase as the frontend...heh
[05:24]  * regeya has two different tech support hats on right now :->
[05:25] <r240> it's ok, others have been helpful
[05:25] <regeya> eeeexcellent
[05:25] <r240> how do i exit module? should i save before i exit?
[05:26]  * regeya realizes he had intended to go to bed nearly two hours ago...good night, all...
[05:31] <Konner> uhh
[05:32] <BanTam> whats wrong?
[05:32] <Konner> it didnt disable manual configuration
[05:32] <BanTam> lol
[05:32] <Konner> still says Manual
[05:32] <BanTam> ok
[05:33] <BanTam> right click on it
[05:33] <BanTam> the go into manual configuration
[05:33] <r240> help. how do i save module in konsole?
[05:34] <Konner> I clicked that many times
[05:34] <Konner> what do i do after
[05:35] <BanTam> what do you see?
[05:35] <Konner> uhh..
[05:35] <BanTam> after you click on manual config what happens?
[05:35] <Konner> All it does is let me disable the connection or enable or config the connection
[05:36] <BanTam> it doens show you any wireless networks?
[05:36] <Konner> no
[05:37] <Konner> I cant pick any because of the manual configuration
[05:37] <BanTam> what happens when you left click on it?
[05:38] <Konner> It brings up some box saying no device
[05:38] <BanTam> im wondering if the dirvers are actually working
[05:39] <Konner> It all worked fine on ubuntu but i like the KDE enviroment
[05:39] <BanTam> your going to have to go back into linux and at the terminal type iwconfig and see if it shows youe wifi adapter
[05:39] <Konner> ok
[05:43] <Konner> Ahhh
[05:44] <BanTam> ?
[05:44] <Konner> no it doesnt show i have a wireless device
[05:44] <Konner> No wonder.
[05:44] <BanTam> you folled all the steps?
[05:44] <BanTam> followed?
[05:44] <Konner> yea
[05:44] <Konner> h
[05:44] <BanTam> what happened after you entered sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[05:45] <Konner> It did nothing actualy
[05:45] <BanTam> ok
[05:46] <BanTam> and then you finished by entering sudo ndiswrapper -m ?
[05:46] <evilbug> is there any way to stop touchpad tap-click without an external app? (there is no Touchpad tab in Mouse menu).
[05:46] <Konner> Yeah after that
[05:46] <Konner> it regestered something
[05:46] <beener> rm-fR ~ / .config / deluge can some one tell me what this does?
[05:46] <BanTam> yeah thats what tells it to start when you login
[05:47] <BanTam> well im not sure beener but its going to delete something
[05:47] <BanTam> prob your deluge folder
[05:47] <beener> i was told it was a solution to fix delugs loading problem
[05:47] <BanTam> yeah it will delete it
[05:47] <BanTam> lol
[05:47] <BanTam> thatll fix it alright
[05:47] <beener> so it should only delet that folder?
[05:48] <BanTam> konner: i would try running sudo modprobe ndiswrapper again, the after you enter that type iwconfig
[05:48] <BanTam> also you type sudo ndiswrapper -l
[05:48] <Konner> Hmm
[05:49] <BanTam> it will tell you if it installed the driver you should see the drivers name
[05:49] <beener> ?
[05:49] <Konner> Ok
[05:49] <Konner> ill brb again
[05:49] <BanTam> ok
[05:49] <Konner> i hope this works
[05:49] <Konner> x]
[05:49] <BanTam> me too
[05:49] <BanTam> beener whats wrong?
[05:50] <Lynoure> beener: without the space after rm, nothing. With a space DON'T DO IT.
[05:50] <beener> it that im trying to help a friend and that the only solution i get but for an odd reson. when he ran it his free space went from 5 to 11 gigs
[05:50] <beener> this was before i asked
[05:50] <Lynoure> beener: it would delete your whole home because of there being extra spaces in the path.
[05:51] <Lynoure> unless it just gave an error, anyway, nothing you'd want.
[05:51] <beener> damn i thnk that what happend...
[05:52] <anon32> BanTam, welcome back
[05:52] <BanTam> :)
[05:52] <BanTam> thanks
[05:52] <Lynoure> beener: that's bad. I hope you had either backups or a brand new install...
[05:52] <beener> nope i know he didnt
[05:52] <beener> should it only delete the home folder?
[05:54] <Lynoure> beener: it probably also tries to delete your /  (root filesystem)
[05:54] <beener> damn
[05:54] <Lynoure> beener: and .config and deluge, but at that point those would not be left anymore
[05:55] <beener> when he told me it jump from 5 to 11 gigs
[05:55] <beener> i told him to cut the power
[05:55] <BanTam> someone gave me a similiar command years ago in one of my many failed attempts to learn linux wiped out my entire drive
[05:55] <Strangelet> I cannot move many of the applets on my main KDE toolbar. The taskbar won't move either. The K Menu is virtually the only movable thing, And that is because it has an option. I am apparently supposed to see an 'arrow' or something of the sorts when I hover my mouse over it, but I see nothing. I also tried putting the applets back in, from left to right, taht did not work either. What can I do??
[05:55] <BanTam> theres some real assh*les out there
[05:56] <beener> so he booted it up and got to the mantance shell  ran fschk or sumthing along the lines. and now it boots fine
[05:56] <BanTam> i need a ciggarette
[05:56] <BanTam> brb
[05:56] <beener> hes just missing some music and movies now
[05:56] <Lynoure> beener: that one, in theory, could have been a botched  rm -rf ~/.config/deluge  , which would just remove the deluge directory and everything in it
[05:57] <beener> his whole home folder is basicly gone he said
[05:57] <Konner> Ok
[05:57] <Konner> Im getting some airwaves going on
[05:57] <Konner> xD
[05:57] <Konner> it found it
[05:57] <Konner> but im not getting ANY connection
[05:58] <Lynoure> beener: best way to live with it is to consider it a learning experience. Lessons: 1) Do not run commands you are not sure about 2) Whitespace in commands is significant 3) Take backups regularly
[05:58] <beener> if it runs now it not that bad, right? i know he can always get the files again.
[05:58] <beener> yea
[05:59] <Lynoure> beener: and also it might help to know something similar happens to very very many people at some point of their Linux life
[05:59] <Konner> BanTan
[05:59] <beener> ... i knew they were harsh comands but it was the only "fix" i found
[05:59] <beener> least it boot now
[06:00] <Konner> pssh
[06:00] <billyBobO> does anyone know if Wubi will be available for Kubuntu 8.04?  Or will kubuntu-desktop be needed to install afterwards?
[06:00] <Konner> Help now?
[06:00] <Konner> x]
[06:00] <beener> he said all his stuff need to be configured again
[06:00] <Konner> =[
[06:01] <BanTam> im back i needed a smoke break
[06:01] <BanTam> whats happeneing?
[06:01] <Konner> xD
[06:01] <BanTam> any luck?
[06:01] <Konner> It found a connection
[06:01] <Konner> it was doing something
[06:01] <BanTam> magnificent
[06:01] <BanTam> ;)
[06:01] <Konner> but the manual config wasnt helping at all
[06:01] <beener> damn i just wish it happend to me instead of him.
[06:02] <Konner> It wouldnt conenct
[06:02] <Konner> But it was doing something
[06:02] <BanTam> is it wep protected?
[06:02] <Konner> I might need to check the forums on how to disable this
[06:02] <Konner> :S
[06:02] <Konner> yeah its WEP
[06:02] <BanTam> id it prompt you for the key?
[06:02] <Konner> No
[06:02] <Konner> it wouldnt do anything
[06:02] <BanTam> hrmm
[06:03] <Konner> I couldnt conenct
[06:03] <BanTam> im really not too sure how to get that out of manual mode
[06:03] <BanTam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[06:03] <BanTam> try there
[06:03] <BanTam> i wish i could be of more help
[06:05] <BanTam> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+sources/knetworkmanager/+gethelp
[06:05] <BanTam> Konner try this
[06:06] <BanTam> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+question/15308
[06:06] <Konner> ok
[06:07] <factotum> If I would like to install KDE (to play around with dolphin) and not install the whole blasted kubuntu suite, what should i be looking for as far as packages?
[06:07] <beener> does anyone here know how to configure the setting on a torrent client to be optimized for you conection? (deluge is working now
[06:07] <beener> )
[06:07] <factotum> i did an apt-cache search kde and got quite a list
[06:08] <BanTam> beener when you 1st run deluge it shold run you through a wizard
[06:08] <beener> it doesnt do the specifics though
[06:09] <BanTam> such as?
[06:09] <beener> the whole bandwith settings
[06:09] <BanTam> then go into preferences and then into bandwidth
[06:09] <beener> i had to have a friend do it before but i realy dont want to have him go through it again
[06:10] <beener> er ill get him to do it again
[06:10] <konner> uhh
[06:10] <konner> holy crap.
[06:10] <BanTam> it works?
[06:10] <konner> it connected to the internet when i loged onto
[06:10] <BanTam> sweet
[06:10] <konner> thats weird
[06:10] <konner> needed a restart
[06:10] <BanTam> yeah i was gonna mention that
[06:10] <BanTam> lol
[06:10] <konner> thanks for your help!
[06:10] <BanTam> np
[06:10] <konner> now i can get wine downloaded
[06:10] <ubuntu> hi
[06:10] <konner> =]
[06:10] <BanTam> lol
[06:10] <beener> Lynoure thanks for you help
[06:11] <ubuntu> i need help
[06:11] <BanTam> you might wanna check for updatres too
[06:11] <Lynoure> beener: you are welcome
[06:11] <Lynoure> ubuntu: just ask your question and probably someone on the channel will help you
[06:11] <BanTam> not to get off topic but did anyone see the picture of john gotti before he died?
[06:11] <BanTam> OMG
[06:12] <Lynoure> If that's not off topic, I don't know what is :)
[06:12] <BanTam> lol
[06:12] <BanTam> i said it was..lol
[06:13] <Lynoure> BanTam: oh, I'm not native speaker of English, so "not to get off topic" sounded more like claiming it would not get things offtopic
[06:13] <konner> how do i check for updates with kubuntu
[06:13] <konner> x]
[06:13] <BanTam> oh im sorry
[06:13] <konner> im not familiar with the KDE
[06:13] <konner> but its so sexy
[06:13] <BanTam> well i use the terminal
[06:13] <konner> what do i type
[06:13] <Lynoure> konner: either with adept somehow, or   sudo apt-get update   from commandline
[06:13] <BanTam> sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:14] <BanTam> i dont use adept for u pdates i have nothing but probs with it
[06:14] <BanTam> it gives me errors halfway through the upgrade
[06:14] <BanTam> type 1st: sudo apt-get update
[06:14] <konner> Nope aparently no updates
[06:14] <BanTam> then: sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:14] <konner> when i start the computer it says its up-to-date
[06:14] <BanTam> well then your in good shape
[06:14] <konner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:15] <konner> is that good
[06:15] <BanTam> yes
[06:15] <konner> ok
[06:15] <konner> ^_^
[06:15] <BanTam> unless you want the latest upgrades to kde
[06:16] <BanTam> then you gotta add a repository
[06:16] <BanTam> every time i see repository i think of suppositories
[06:16] <BanTam> lol
[06:16] <konner> lmao now i cant install wine
[06:16] <BanTam> ?
[06:17] <konner> it says
[06:17] <BanTam> why not?
[06:17] <BanTam> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:17] <konner> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:17] <konner> wine: Depends: binfmt-support (>= 1.1.2) but it is not installable
[06:17] <konner> E: Broken packages
[06:17] <konner> =/
[06:17] <konner> And i downloaded that package
[06:18] <konner> and  Gdebi just quits
[06:18] <BanTam> try this in terminal
[06:18] <konner> k\
[06:18] <konner> k
[06:18] <BanTam> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:19] <konner> did nothing
[06:19] <BanTam> you have synaptic ?
[06:19] <konner> uhh
[06:19] <konner> whats that
[06:19] <konner> :S
[06:19] <Lynoure> konner: that's like Adept, but for Gnome
[06:19] <BanTam> package manager
[06:20] <BanTam> youe in KDE right?
[06:20] <BanTam> your
[06:20] <konner> yeah
[06:20] <konner> KDE
[06:20] <BanTam> o go into the kmenu then into system
[06:20] <konner> k
[06:20] <BanTam> see if you got synaptic  package manage r in there
[06:20] <konner> no
[06:21] <konner> i have Adept Manager
[06:21] <BanTam> k
[06:21] <BanTam> you might be better off using automatix
[06:21] <konner> whats that
[06:21] <Lynoure> konner: sudo apt-get -f install   sometimes fixes such problems
[06:21] <intelikey> !automatix
[06:21] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:21] <Lynoure> !automatix
[06:22] <Lynoure> intelikey: :)
[06:22] <intelikey> sorry Lynoure didn't notice you were here.
[06:22] <BanTam> ok forget i mentioned that
[06:22] <BanTam> lol
[06:22] <Lynoure> intelikey: you got it first, anyway, no need to wait for me :)
[06:22] <BanTam> thanks
[06:22] <konner> go there>
[06:23] <konner> aww i dont feel like reading that
[06:23] <konner> >.<
[06:23] <BanTam> lol
[06:23] <konner> Im tired
[06:24] <BanTam> i haer ya
[06:24] <konner> like like 1 AM here
[06:24] <BanTam> same here
[06:24] <BanTam> im in NY
[06:24] <konner> Im in Oklahoma
[06:25] <konner> lmao i need to set my clock on here
[06:25] <konner> it keeps saying 22:00
[06:25] <konner> i need central time
[06:25] <konner> x]
[06:25] <intelikey> linux is not good for hardware clocks.
[06:25] <konner> neither is my windows XP its always a hour ahead
[06:25] <konner> xD
[06:26] <BanTam> lol
[06:26] <konner> I had to reinstall everything like 5 times yesterday
[06:26] <nick77>  umount /dev/hdd1
[06:26] <nick77> umount: /media/hdd1: device is busy
[06:26] <nick77> umount: /media/hdd1: device is busy
[06:26] <nick77> help?
[06:26] <konner> i found out i cant resize a linux partition without messing it up
[06:27] <BanTam> !envy
[06:27] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:27] <mkquist> konner: was it ur system partition?
[06:27] <intelikey> nick77 so close the windows that are pointing to it.  and right click the icon on the desktop and tell it to umount
[06:27] <konner> Yeah the first time i installed Ubuntu it gave me only 7 GB and i tried resizing it
[06:28] <nick77> it was amarok.......... i closed it thanks
[06:28] <kaminix> Hmm... the new kaffeine package is not compatible with the old kaffeine-xine package in repos. When I run aptitude full-upgrade it wants to remove kaffeine and kaffenie-xine, then when I reinstall kaffeine and then kaffeine-xine they get removed again.
[06:28] <konner> this is funny
[06:28] <mkquist> konner: yeah that can be a problem
[06:28] <konner> whats with kubuntu and everything with a K
[06:28] <intelikey> !kde
[06:28] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[06:28] <konner> my name is spelt with a K
[06:29] <mkquist> konner: nothing funny, it just idenifies it from like gome... or xubuntu.. simple really
[06:29] <intelikey> kde = the K Desktop Environment
[06:30] <konner> I still need some help installing Wine
[06:30] <konner> :S
[06:30] <intelikey> konner sudo apt-get install wine
[06:30] <konner> I did that
[06:30] <konner> it says i need binfmt-support
[06:30] <konner> i downloaded te package
[06:31] <konner> and Gdebi just quits
[06:31] <BanTam> did you try sudo apt-get install wine ?
[06:31] <intelikey> konner sudo apt-get -f install
[06:31] <konner> I did that too
[06:31] <intelikey> what did it say ?
[06:32] <intelikey> !pastebin
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <prince_jammys> !wine | konner
[06:32] <ubotu> konner: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:35] <konner> hmm
[06:37] <konner> How do i install .deb packages on kubuntu
[06:37] <konner> the Gdebi doesnt work well
[06:38] <prince_jammys> konner: sudo dpkg -i packg_name.deb
[06:38] <intelikey> prince_jammys no.
[06:39] <intelikey> apt-get if possable.
[06:39] <konner> wow
[06:39] <konner> thats what i neded
[06:39] <konner> now wine is downloading
[06:39] <konner> =]
[06:39] <intelikey> i.e. using things not in the repos will cause problems later on.
[06:39] <prince_jammys> intelikey: is that not how one installs deb files?
[06:40] <konner> it worked fine for me
[06:40] <konner> now wine works
[06:40] <intelikey> prince_jammys yes.  only meant that you should sujest trying apt.  didn't mean it as a rebuke.    sorry it came accross that way
[06:40] <prince_jammys> i already directed him to the link that goes through apt
[06:40] <prince_jammys> it's right up there
[06:40] <konner> Now my windows products will work
[06:41] <konner> <3
[06:41] <prince_jammys> konner: intelikey is right - installing through apt is ideal and preferred
[06:41] <prince_jammys> !3rdparty
[06:41] <ubotu> Packages contained in 3rd party repositories are not included in Ubuntu for a reason. Whether this be poor packaging standards, bugs or malicious authors. You should trust the maintainers of these repositories before using them. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297814 for consequences.
[06:42] <prince_jammys> in this case, you should be fine, but going through repositories is always preferable
[06:42] <intelikey> yes and wine is very well supported in the repos
[06:43] <konner> I download .deb packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[06:43] <prince_jammys> that's ok, but unnecessary
[06:43] <konner> THeres a easyer way to do it?
[06:43] <prince_jammys> !apt
[06:43] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:44] <prince_jammys> using apt-geyt
[06:44] <prince_jammys> get
[06:44] <konner> Oh ok
[06:44] <konner> =]
[06:44] <prince_jammys> eg sudo apt-get install yakuake
[06:44] <konner> Might be fast too.
[06:44] <konner> Is there a way to get Windows Live Messenger on linux?
[06:44] <prince_jammys> deals with dependencies, downloads and installs
[06:44] <konner> I dont like the msn clones it has
[06:45] <konner> it doesnt connect directly to the windows live network
[06:45] <prince_jammys> this i don't know about
[06:45] <konner> crap =/
[06:45] <prince_jammys> konner: try using "adept":: it's a gui front-end for apt
[06:46] <prince_jammys> konner: there you can search for software by keyword
[06:46] <prince_jammys> thousands of packages
[06:47] <prince_jammys> the command line version is:  apt-cache search keywords
[06:47] <prince_jammys> and once you see a package you like:  sudo apt-get install packg_name
[06:47] <prince_jammys> to remove: sudo apt-get remove packg_name
[06:48] <prince_jammys> to update the list from the repositories: sudo apt-get update
[06:48] <prince_jammys> :)
[06:48] <prince_jammys> but you can do all this from gui using "adept" in your system meny
[06:48] <prince_jammys> u
[06:49] <konner> Hmm
[06:49] <konner> I cant find a msn clone or anything
[06:49] <konner> =/
[06:49] <jussi01> konner: kmess
[06:49] <prince_jammys> !info kmess
[06:49] <ubotu> kmess (source: kmess): Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2652 kB
[06:50] <prince_jammys> konner: see where it says "component universe"?
[06:50] <intelikey> !amsn
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <intelikey> !find amsn
[06:50] <ubotu> Found: amsn
[06:50] <jussi01> !info amsn
[06:50] <ubotu> amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[06:50] <intelikey> there was an infonode on that.  but obviously it "was"
[06:50] <prince_jammys> konner: there are several repositories, main, universe, multiverse, etc.
[06:51] <jussi01> !repo
[06:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[06:51] <prince_jammys> konner: if you don't have for example "universe" enabled, you can also do that from Adept
[06:52] <prince_jammys> and you'll be able to install packages from that repository (aka repo)
[06:53] <konner> im figureing out wine.
[06:53] <intelikey> example of an /etc/apt/sources.list file http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=dbe517a
[06:54] <intelikey> note it's for the LTS not for the latest.  but only the key word is different.
[07:01] <intelikey> http://tinyurl.com/ysx2kj heh.
[07:02] <BanTam> i need to find out how to get MergedFB working
[07:03] <BanTam> its driving me crazy
[07:03] <BanTam> !mergedfb
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mergedfb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <soontak> good day guys, i would like to know regarding usb gsm modem, do i need to install and module for my linux kernel ?
[07:06] <jussi01> soontak: you would need to give more info, such as make and model etc
[07:08] <soontak> make and model ?
[07:09] <r240> trying to install restricted package...do i want sun java?
[07:09] <intelikey> !java | r240
[07:09] <ubotu> r240: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:09] <soontak> because currently i'm using a gsm modem with my kubuntu, i heard somebody did mention that i need to load a module for my kernel 1st
[07:10] <soontak> i'm wondering which kermel module that i need to load
[07:10] <soontak> or somebody have a better guide on this ?
[07:16] <BanTam> hmm interesting, no wonder i couldnt get mergedFB working its no longer supported in 7.10 they now use Xrandr
[07:16] <BanTam> ill be a SOB
[07:16] <BanTam> allthem hours wasted
[07:17] <BanTam> looks like thats tomorrows project
[07:17] <BanTam> :)
[07:17] <intelikey> "hours wasted" ?     a novel concept.
[07:18] <BanTam> well yeah, all for nothing
[07:18] <BanTam> like a dog chasing its tail
[07:18] <BanTam> lol never going to get anywhere
[07:18] <intelikey> all is vanity!
[07:19] <BanTam> well either way i wasted my time..lol
[07:19] <intelikey> :)
[07:19] <BanTam> lol
[07:19] <BanTam> well at least i learned something
[07:20] <BanTam> 2 things actually
[07:20] <BanTam> i learned i cant use mergedfb and i learned i wasted my time as well as others
[07:20] <intelikey> which along with a buck two ninty five will purchase you a soda pop at the local convienance store.
[07:21] <BanTam> exactly!
[07:21] <BanTam> ;)
[07:22] <ere4si> a buck two ninty five is funny money :)
[07:22] <intelikey> ... and provoke delightful conversation about nothing.      as well.
[07:22] <BanTam> hahaha
[07:22] <intelikey> ere4si only on that side of the border
[07:22] <ere4si> hehe
[07:25] <intelikey> did you guys read that blog i posted ?
[07:40] <ere4si> intelikey, :)
[07:40] <ere4si> all irc suffer the same
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd say...  a 50/50 mixed with a little Playlist -_-
[07:41] <nick77> what is the blog?
[07:44] <intelikey> http://tinyurl.com/ysx2kj      sorry repost.
[07:45] <intelikey> ere4si pretty much   yes.   it's the "human factor"
[07:46] <ere4si> intelikey, everyone was a virgin once :)
[07:46]  * intelikey wonders...
[07:54] <Roy_M> Hi, I built some kernel modules one machine (an emulated image) and am trying to put them on another machine (a real embedded machine). However, when I do my modprobe command that inserts them, I get errors. I am starting to think that the images are not identical. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57559/ for the output of "uname -a". Is it s big deal that one is i686 and the other is i586?
[07:56] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, and this is probably not the place.  try ##linux
[07:56] <intelikey> or #kernel
[07:56] <intelikey> but yes the arch is important in "many" cases.
[07:58] <Roy_M> sure, thanks intelikey and Daisuke_Ido
[08:05] <psilocyde> hello folks
[08:05] <psilocyde> need help with adept package manager
[08:06] <psilocyde> it keeps trying to download open office core
[08:06] <psilocyde> and it locks adept durring install
[08:06] <intelikey> !adeptcrash | psilocyde
[08:06] <ubotu> psilocyde: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:07] <psilocyde> ty will try
[08:07] <intelikey> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[08:07] <intelikey> command line way to make sure you are "up2date"
[08:08] <psilocyde> ic ty so which to try first?
[08:08] <psilocyde> uboto's or yours
[08:09] <intelikey> order is not important, except depending on the cause of your issue.    so try one.  if it fails try the other.
[08:09] <psilocyde> ok
[08:09] <intelikey> !bot | psilocyde
[08:09] <ubotu> psilocyde: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:10] <intelikey> !all-knowing hehhe,  how comical.
[08:10] <intelikey> !all-knowing
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about all-knowing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <intelikey> !anything
[08:11] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[08:12] <psilocyde> on your rec i didsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade and i got  E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> remove the install from that command
[08:12] <psilocyde> k
[08:12] <intelikey> did i type "install"   heh  oops
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: you've gotten your one mistake for the year, better shape up!
[08:13] <psilocyde> lol
[08:13] <intelikey> sorry   it was a typo
[08:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and gnight everyone
[08:13] <psilocyde> night
[08:13] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido sure insult me an leave   ;/
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i was only teasing you!
[08:14] <intelikey> there seems to be an .* discrepancy between my /dev/brain and my /dev/stdin
[08:15] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido i       know       that     !         can't you take what ya dish out?   :)
[08:15] <Daisuke_Ido> well, it could be the time of day.  the daily maintenance cron jobs haven't kicked in yet have they?
[08:16] <intelikey> mine ?    heh.  no.
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> same
[08:16] <intelikey> k   good[:localtime:]
[08:17] <jussi01> Hmmm, does anyone know how to create a mirror effect for a picture(read:icon)?
[08:18] <psilocyde> oh! i got another one
[08:18] <psilocyde> my fonts are HUGE when i log on
[08:20] <psilocyde> so much so that it makes them unreadable the log on screen unusable
[08:20] <psilocyde> i just sort of wing it and type my pass blinde
[08:21] <psilocyde> ok i got something back from the console
[08:22] <psilocyde> Preconfiguring packages ...
[08:22] <psilocyde> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[08:23] <intelikey> psilocyde you need to find the error that caused that.   it will be above it somewhere
[08:25] <psilocyde> Fetched 67.1MB in 3m30s (318kB/s)
[08:25] <psilocyde> Preconfiguring packages ...
[08:25] <psilocyde> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[08:28] <psilocyde> full copy of my console @ http://pastebin.com/m4f7ad2c7
[08:29] <intelikey> ok    sudo apt-get install -f
[08:29] <intelikey> pastebin if it errors
[08:29] <psilocyde> ok ty
[08:34] <psilocyde> it looks too be just giving me a list of apt commands http://pastebin.com/m517bffd7
[08:35] <jussi01> Hmmm, my alt-tabis switching desktops, not apps, any idea on how to fix it?
[08:36] <apparle> hi
[08:36] <apparle> llutz: are you there??
[08:36] <llutz> apparle: ?
[08:36] <apparle> llutz: How to configure LIRC
[08:37] <apparle> llutz: ??
[08:38] <intelikey> psilocyde umm   if i add an "install" then it's ok to remove it.   but when it actually belongs there.....    ummm     PUT IT BACK!    :)
 ok    sudo apt-get install -f
 pastebin if it errors
 ok ty
[08:38] <llutz> apparle: have you installed lirc and attached a recevier?
[08:38] <psilocyde> wait
[08:39] <apparle> llutz: Yes
[08:39] <intelikey> yeah.  your pastebin pointed out that error.   "    1. psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo apt-get -f
[08:39] <llutz> apparle: kernel-module is loaded?
[08:40] <apparle> llutz: what is that
[08:40] <apparle> llutz: I installed .deb package
[08:40] <llutz> apparle: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy?highlight=(lirc)%7C(gutsy)#head-710472bedfd1154d9c9873ca6a20cc3e8a550699
[08:41] <llutz> apparle: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy
[08:45] <apparle> llutz: While installing I by mistake selected "None", I tried to reinstall it but could not get te dialog box again
[08:45] <noaXess> i want upload any file over a sh script.. over ftp... what to use for this?
[08:47] <apparle> llutz: ??
[08:50] <intelikey> psilocyde how goes the war ?
[08:50] <psilocyde> oy
[08:50] <psilocyde> err well
[08:51] <llutz> apparle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc
[08:51] <intelikey> psilocyde:   tre bien?    tre mal?
[08:51] <psilocyde> it just stops at the commiting changes
[08:51] <intelikey> show me the last line
[08:52] <llutz> apparle: and plz stop your "??", i'll answer sooner or later
[08:52] <psilocyde> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[08:53] <apparle> llutz: I am sorry.  :(  Actually I am anxious to get it work Sorry!!
[08:53] <intelikey> psilocyde   sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&1                    then pastebin the content of ~/error
[08:53] <apparle> llutz: What should d to get the GUI frontend in KDE. What command??
[08:54] <intelikey> it's very unusual for dpkg/apt to be this secretive about why it's having issues...
[08:54] <llutz> apparle: use search in adept, kdelirc sounds nice
[08:54] <psilocyde> could this line "40 not fully installed or removed." have anything to do with it?
[08:54] <intelikey> no not really
[08:54] <psilocyde> oh
[08:54] <intelikey> psilocyde we need to find the cause of that.   then that will work it's self out
[08:55] <psilocyde> oh
[08:55] <apparle> llutz: No I mean to say that what command should I use to get the "Choose Remote" as stated in thepage you told me?
[08:55] <llutz> apparle: depends on your receiver-hardware
[08:56] <apparle> llutz: I will talk to in 5 minutes. Connection will be reset
[08:56] <intelikey> i'm thinking that it "may" have something to do with a "back-ported package"  but as of right now that's only speculation.
[08:57] <intelikey> i have seen backports muddy the water before.
[08:57] <psilocyde> ok
[08:57] <psilocyde> lets fix it
[08:57] <psilocyde> lol
[08:58] <intelikey> psilocyde   sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&1                    then pastebin the content of ~/error
[08:58] <psilocyde> k
[09:01] <psilocyde> the console is taking a long time to respond respond with that command
[09:01] <intelikey> if it seems to have stopped for a long time "in seconds 50 or 60" focus on the terminal and type enter a few times.
[09:01] <psilocyde> ok no need to pastbin
[09:01] <psilocyde> i get     Bus error (core dumped)
[09:02] <intelikey> oh that's cute.
[09:02] <psilocyde> what
[09:02] <intelikey> is the terminal still active ?
[09:02] <psilocyde> ya
[09:02] <intelikey> has it returned to the prompt ?
[09:02] <psilocyde> yep
[09:03] <intelikey> and cat ~/error   only contains the coredump message ?
[09:03] <psilocyde> yes
[09:03] <intelikey> adept is not open is it ?
[09:03] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > ~/error 2>&1
[09:03] <psilocyde> Bus error (core dumped)
[09:03] <psilocyde> psilocyde@Beamanet-1:~$
[09:03] <psilocyde> no
[09:04] <intelikey> psilocyde yes but look in the file       ~/error       just to make sure we didn't trap an error message in it.
[09:04] <psilocyde> how?
[09:04] <intelikey> cat ~/error
[09:04] <psilocyde> oh ok
[09:06] <psilocyde> im sorry, where do i find this cat ~/error file?
[09:06] <psilocyde> verry new to all this linux deal
[09:06] <intelikey> or navigate to your home dir and click on error        the tild expands to the users home.
[09:07] <intelikey> but simply typing in       cat ~/error        should have displaied
[09:07] <apparle> llutz: Tell me the command
[09:07]  * intelikey ponders the "bus error"
[09:07] <llutz> apparle: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=704005 and use google for more info
[09:08] <psilocyde> well i got nothing from the terminal, what do i use to open the file in the hom dir?
[09:09] <intelikey> any text editor or the konqueror builtin viewer
[09:10] <intelikey> but no need if it's empty.
[09:11] <psilocyde> empty
[09:11] <psilocyde> yes its empty
[09:12] <psilocyde> would a bad sector do that?
[09:12] <apparle> llutz: Just tell me which remote to select in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy while installation, I wanna use homebrew serial IR receiver with TSOP1738. Please help. I understand thatyou are busy but please!! :)
[09:13] <intelikey> psilocyde you mean fs corruption?  it might.     do a#      dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii' > ~/error ;cat /etc/apt/sources.list                # and pastebin   ~/error for me.   lets see if i can find anything there that might help.
[09:13] <intelikey> sorry.
[09:13] <intelikey> dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii' > ~/error ;cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> ~/error
[09:14] <intelikey> don't think i only make one mistake per-year as signified by Daisuke_Ido  ;/
[09:16] <psilocyde> ok
[09:17] <psilocyde> http://pastebin.com/m4a1c5b00
[09:18] <intelikey> did dpkg core dump again ?
[09:19] <llutz> apparle: i don't use lirc on a desktop pc. i just load lirc_serial and it works, but that is a special system
[09:19] <intelikey> or did you only put one > on the cat command ?
[09:19] <psilocyde> sec sorry
[09:20] <apparle> Anyone else here who uses LIRC
[09:21]  * intelikey bx exclusively apparle
[09:24] <apparle> intelikey: What did you say?
[09:24] <intelikey> said no not me.
[09:26] <apparle> what is bx
[09:27] <psilocyde> http://pastebin.com/m2f7cb3ac
[09:28] <intelikey> apparle bitchX
[09:28] <intelikey> !info bitchx
[09:28] <ubotu> bitchx (source: ircii-pana): Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1515 kB, installed size 6524 kB
[09:30] <psilocyde> well i got to go to bed
[09:30] <intelikey> psilocyde hmmmm    one more time       sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:30] <intelikey> if it core dumps or errors out just say which
[09:30] <psilocyde> k
[09:31] <psilocyde> Bus error (core dumpe
[09:31] <psilocyde> ed)
[09:31] <psilocyde> sigh
[09:31] <intelikey> hmmm ok.   that does look kinda like an hard drive problem.
[09:31] <psilocyde> oh ya
[09:31] <psilocyde> damnit anyway
[09:31] <psilocyde> lol
[09:31] <psilocyde> ok
[09:31] <intelikey> i can't put my fingure on anything else that would be doing that.  but i'm sure that there  are probably othere things.
[09:32] <psilocyde> well ill run spinright on it while i sleep
[09:32] <psilocyde> thanks for the help man
[09:32] <intelikey> psilocyde maybe when you do that it will find what's bugging you.     welcome.
[09:32] <psilocyde> hope so
[09:32] <psilocyde> night
[09:32] <intelikey> shalom
[09:33] <flipstar> which packages do i need to print ?
[09:33] <intelikey> cupsys     should pull in all you need
[09:33] <flipstar> i just installed cupsys, cupsys-driver-gutenprint but  still nothing..
[09:34] <intelikey> can't setup the printer ?
[09:34] <flipstar> it is set up with system-config-printer but wont print
[09:34] <Aloha> how do i set konqueror as default file manager? dolphin sucks
[09:35] <apparle> someone please help with LIRC
[09:35] <flipstar> !dolphin > Aloha
[09:35] <intelikey> flipstar use the printer admin tool and make sure it's not paused.
[09:35] <Aloha> flipstar: thnx
[09:35] <flipstar> printer admin tool..?
[09:35] <shanky> hi, good morning
[09:35] <intelikey> yeah should be in the kmenu system settings
[09:36] <shanky> I have kubuntu installed in a macbook
[09:36] <stunatra> Aloha, ALT+F2: kcontrol, Go to File Associations. Under inode, select "directory" and move Konqueror to the top of the list.
[09:36] <shanky> everything works fine but the external monitor
[09:36] <flipstar> intelikey: you mean gnome-cups-manager ?
[09:37] <intelikey> flipstar actually no.  but that should work.
[09:37] <Aloha> that was easier than i thought it was going to be
[09:37]  * Aloha loves KDE
[09:37] <Aloha> except for kde4... thats not kde... thats a monster
[09:37] <intelikey> :)
[09:37] <intelikey> "we have created a monster!"
[09:37] <intelikey> :)))
[09:38] <flipstar> no..it also wont print a test page ..
[09:38] <shanky> well I can get it working with my tft, but not with a digital projecto
[09:38] <Aloha> its like the devs were like "wow kde is really cool... lets butcher it"
[09:38] <intelikey> flipstar usb connection ?
[09:38] <flipstar> yes
[09:38] <intelikey> flipstar lsusb   make sure it recognized
[09:38] <shanky> projector
[09:39] <flipstar> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer
[09:39] <shanky> is there a good tool to try the external vga connection to work?
[09:39] <intelikey> flipstar what version of *buntu ?
[09:39] <flipstar> ehm hardy ..
[09:39] <intelikey> ;/
[09:40] <flipstar> i thing i need some packages..i installed via debootstrap..
[09:40]  * intelikey points at the hardy channel   --->
[09:40] <intelikey> go to your room! :|
[09:40] <intelikey> !hardy
[09:40] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:44] <s2a> i have KDEnlive on gutsy ubuntu...how do i use it to make a menu? i want a video to keep restarting in that menu and i alredy loaded that video in KDEnlive
[09:44] <Aloha> how do i open a file with a random extension, e.g. .foobar that is text to open in konqueror?
[09:46] <Agent_bob> right click ?
[09:47] <shanky> !xinerama
[09:47] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[09:48] <Agent_bob> !res | shanky also of interest.
[09:48] <ubotu> shanky also of interest.: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <shanky> Agent_bob: thanks
[09:48] <sarah> whats the equivalent of "restricted drivers manager" in kubuntu?
[09:49] <Agent_bob> !restricted
[09:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:49] <Agent_bob> not what you want.
[09:49] <Agent_bob> !nv
[09:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:50] <apparle> sarah: Restricted driver manager for kde is present in Gutsy, Do you have any ohter version?
[09:50] <sarah> not nvidia, wireless drivers
[09:50] <sarah> hoary
[09:50] <Agent_bob> !wifi
[09:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:50] <Agent_bob> hoary ?
[09:50] <Agent_bob> sarah  that's not even supported any mofe.
[09:50] <apparle> !hoary
[09:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) was the second release of Ubuntu.  End Of Life: October 31, 2006. See !eol for more details.
[09:50] <Agent_bob> more
[09:51] <sarah> 7.10 sorry
[09:51] <sarah> dont remember the name =p
[09:51] <Agent_bob> !gutsy
[09:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[09:51] <apparle> sarah: It is pre installed in gutsy
[09:51] <sarah> i see!
[09:52] <Agent_bob> !wifi | sarah other docs here might help too
[09:52] <ubotu> sarah other docs here might help too: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:52] <sarah> thx
[09:53] <apparle> some one help me with LIRC, I am unable to make neither head ofr tail of it
[09:54] <pushax> what package is display & monitor control panel part in?  anyone know?
[09:55] <apparle> pushax: what do you wanna control or modify
[09:55] <sarah> how would i do step 6 in offline installation?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[09:55] <pushax> apparle: I've got a problem with my monitor section. It comes in error and therefor eI can't change the settings using gui
[09:56] <pushax> apparle: I want to try reinstalling the package to see if it clears the issue
[09:56] <apparle> sarah: It is clearly stated
[09:57] <apparle> pushax: do you have any special drivers installed like ATI
[09:57] <pushax> apparle: nope.  but I want to adjust my monitor to suit lcd
[09:58] <pushax> arr I might try ti installl the ati driver and see if that fixes it.
[09:59] <apparle> pushax: but you need a ATI graphics card to install it  :D
[09:59] <apparle> sarah: Did you find it?
[10:00] <pushax> apparle: yep got a radeon but it didn't detect properly and is listd as fire gl
[10:00] <pushax> brb
[10:00] <pushax> apparle: thx for help
[10:01] <apparle> pushax: You installed fglrx drivers
[10:01] <sarah> apparle: ya thx
[10:01] <apparle> !ati
[10:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <apparle> sarah: where are you from
[10:01] <sarah> would using a 32 bit OS give me a big performance hit?
[10:01] <sarah> co usa
[10:02] <jhend60> Hello everyone
[10:02] <jhend60> I need desperate help. THe full description of my urgent problem is here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/196065
[10:02] <apparle> sarah: what do you mean bu performance hit?
[10:03]  * jhend60 SCREAMS Help PLEASE!
[10:04] <sarah> what would be the disadvantages of using normal kubuntu istead of 64 bit kubuntu? (i have amd64 processor)
[10:04] <jussi01> !patience | jhend60
[10:04] <ubotu> jhend60: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:04] <jhend60> :(
[10:04] <jhend60> I have waited almost 2 months
[10:05] <jhend60> to get an answer to this remember
[10:05] <apparle> jhend60: I am unable to open your link
[10:05] <jhend60> its on my screen...
[10:05] <jhend60> U sure... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/196065